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Hey, I was looking for

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» Are we all Are we good?

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» What are you thankful for?

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» Being hot.

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» You're thankful for being hot.

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» Better than being too cold.

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I'm going to go ahead and call to order

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the city council business meeting of

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Tuesday, August 11th. If you would start

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by joining me in a pledge of allegiance,

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I would appreciate it.

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» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Thank you,

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» Lonnie. Can I get a roll call, please?

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» Here.

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» Here.

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» Daniel here.

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» Yes.

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» Yes.

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» Rude

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» Here. Cuben,

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» Yes.

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» All right. Thank you. Um, just a

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reminder if if everybody has not had an

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opportunity to put their phones on mute

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um or silence, if you would please do

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that. Um

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we will go ahead and commence with the

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meeting. Jeremy, just a heads up, I um

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have the script for qualifying a board

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that we use um for

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planning board. Um and I am not seeing

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it right here on top. So if you have

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that readily accessible just where we

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qualify the board and state that it's a

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quasi judicial matter, um it'd be

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helpful if you can find that. Otherwise,

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we'll wing it and do it best as we can.

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Um, I will entertain a motion to adopt

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the agenda as presented.

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» I move to adopt the agenda as presented.

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» Second.

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» Motion from council member Ronnie,

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second from council member Daniels.

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Discussion at the table.

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Hearing none. Can I go ahead and get a

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roll call, please?

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» Yes.

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» Daniel, yes. Steven,

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» Yes.

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» Yes.

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» Yes.

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All right, 6. The motion carries. I'll

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entertain a motion to approve the

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minutes of July 28th.

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» I move to approve the minutes of July

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28th, 2026.

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» Second.

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» Motion from council member Ronnie,

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second from council member Battles, I

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believe. That's where I heard that from.

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Uh, discussion at the table.

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Hearing none. Can I get a roll call?

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» Battles?

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» Yes.

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» Daniel?

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» Yes.

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» David? Yes. Ronnie?

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» Yes.

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» Ruth?

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Um, yes. Shining. Yes.

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6. Motion passes.

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» Entertain a motion for warrants payable.

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» I move to approve warrants payable in

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the amount of 1,726,740.93.

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» I'll second.

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» Have a motion from council member

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Ronnie, a second from council member

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Tupin.

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» Discussion at the table, please. Um it

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is so high because there were um

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$755,120.92

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cents was paid out of water and that was

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for uh cops construction. Most of that

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» Yes for the water

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» For the water project. Um and then we

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had the EDA grant. They paid out

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$57,510.98.

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And then we also paid for the

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comprehensive insurance um $146,630.50

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and um we also, you know, then the rest

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were just normal um payments. Um so but

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that that made up the majority of it.

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Solid waste we paid with public services

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50,000 as usual. So that's that's most

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of it.

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Other comments at the table

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hearing? None. Can I get a roll call,

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please?

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» Yes.

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» Yes.

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» All right. 60. Motion carries.

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Um, mayor's business. Um, I have a few

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notes to get through. Um, the first one

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we'll start is with Bears. I'm sure as

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everyone knows, this has been a bad

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year. Um it's been bad all over the

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state, but you throw into that that Red

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Lodge is built in a riparian zone um

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right along a creek where bears love to

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walk. Um and we have grizzlies and black

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bears both in there. Um Daniel with uh

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FWP was able to be here tonight. Um he

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will also be at the bear meeting

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tomorrow. Um I'll I'll mention that

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again later, but that's at 2 o'clock at

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the library.

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um the the guidance that we have thus

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far and again I think it's important to

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note that bears are not put down just

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because of trash. They're they're put

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down um when they become a public safety

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issue. So when they're breaking into

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homes, breaking into cars, um chasing

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people, those are all behaviors that

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ends up putting a bear down. And I'd

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like to think that none of us like to

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see that. Um and so it's kind of uh the

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protect yourself, protect the bear. Um

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some ideas that they had to put out is

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they have asked to the extent possible

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if you have the ability to keep your can

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inside please do so. Um and then just

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put it out the morning that it's there.

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I know that's really difficult because

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sometimes Republic is a little

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unpredictable and comes really really

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early um earlier than normal. Um I will

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say uh and then actually before I go

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there also consider bringing bird

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feeders in. I know in town there's a lot

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of people who say, "I have bird feeders

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out and they just bring them in every

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night." Um, this year we are seeing

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bears every part of town walking down

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the street in the middle of the day. Um,

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so so consider bringing um the bird

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feeders in for the remainder of the

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season. Um, and then the other thing

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just from a public safety standpoint,

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um, if you're walking around town,

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anywhere in town really, uh, please

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consider carrying bear spray, especially

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if you're at night. Um, I I I don't

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think it's safe for people to be walking

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around um out at night, you know,

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walking dogs or or various things. And

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again, if you're a worker in Red Lodge

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and and um you don't have bear spray, um

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the bear group got a grant and working

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with uh YWS, the Yellowstone Wildlife

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Sanctuary, they actually have some bear

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spray training and they have vouchers

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for those city workers who are working

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in our businesses and may not have bear

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spray. They can go down and get a

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voucher and get a can of bear spray,

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too. We still um the the latest count is

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still seven in Red Lodge, but we still

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have three or four bears um actively

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walking down the streets every night in

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in in town and and quite frankly during

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the day. Um

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if you see a bear, if it is a grizzly or

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if it is a human safety issue, please

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call dispatch. Um that's 4064461234.

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Hopefully everybody in town already has

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that number. saved in their phone. Um, I

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did see a hand.

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» Council member Tupin,

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» Just a question on bird feeders. I

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didn't think that those were permitted

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in city limits. I thought that was not

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allowed. They are.

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» No, they they they are permitted. What

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is not permitted is feeding of game

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animals. So, turkey, deer, anything that

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can be hunted. Yeah.

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» Um is not um the the public health and

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safety has taking under adisement and is

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looking at wondering about making bird

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feeders not legal within city limits,

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but it's it's a slippery slope, but at

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this point in time, they are legal, but

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they're just asking people not.

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» So, you can make them not legal from May

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to like October.

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» Your council, you can do whatever you'd

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» No, I know. But in other cities, that's

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that's what other cities have done. So,

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let's let's let's not dive down that,

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but that'll be that's one of those

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things that is under consideration and

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discussion. Um, so call dispatch if you

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see a grizzly or if you have something

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that's a a human concern. Um, you can

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call them on general sightings. They

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they just probably won't get a response.

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Um, dispatch is really good at weeding

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through those calls. um and and has the

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hotlines for all of our um law

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enforcement and and they're still

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working like like the police and FWP

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will go down at night and run the bears

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off out of the alleys. And I will say

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from a community standpoint, if there's

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if there's things we can do um to make

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the bears uncomfortable, I know we all

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like cute pictures. Um but I was really

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quite pleased. I had some neighbors the

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other day that said, you know, they they

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ran at it and hollered and screamed and

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waved their arms and and the bear ran

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off. And as long as the bears are doing

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that, they will live to see another day.

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If they start to be unfased by humans,

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get to the point that they're breaking

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into garages or breaking into vehicles

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or chasing people, um then it doesn't

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end well for the bear. And sadly, that's

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where they go if they start getting too

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comfortable around people with trash and

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bird feeders and that sort of thing. Um

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tomorrow, for those who are interested,

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at 2:00 at the library is our bear

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meeting. Um we generally have 20 people

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or so. Um, the county is planning on

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attending tomorrow and I've extended an

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invitation to Ryan. Um, so I don't I

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haven't heard back from him. I don't

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know if he'll be able to make that or

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not. Um, but for anybody who's

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interested in being part of the

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solution, uh, we welcome you to those

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meetings and that'll be at 2:00 uh,

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tomorrow. And then hot off the presses

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on August 24th, which is the Monday

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before our next city council meeting at

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the senior center, um FWP is going to

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have their they generally do a couple of

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bear meetings a year. Um and generally

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they kind of wait until after the

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season. Um as active as it has been this

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year and with many things going on, um

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they have reached to have that. So

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that'll be August 24th, 6:30 at the

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senior center.

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um we may want to consider um for the

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Monday meeting that we have at staff

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meeting at 5:30 um whether we want to

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shorten that or maybe consider having

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that earlier um to help make sure

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otherwise they set it at 6:30 so we can

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leave right from here and go directly to

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that. Any questions about bears before

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we move on from the board from the

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table?

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All right. Um

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in the packet next time and and our our

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chief is on vacation. Um so council, you

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all have the complete um CFS report for

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the month with those numbers. Um with

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that, I kind of want to throw out an

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apology. Um we threw out uh we had a

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oneweek period of of numbers um that we

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threw in the packet because we didn't

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have the other yet. Um I failed to catch

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that that was identified or that had the

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title of an event on it. um and and

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apologies and and that was again it's a

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it's a time period so it's not

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everything even tight to that event per

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se. Um but the complete numbers are out

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in front of you and we'll make sure

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those are in the packet for everybody

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next time.

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Um the ice rink kickoff meeting is going

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to be this Thursday here um in city hall

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at 1:00. Um reminder that that is in

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essence a staff meeting. Um due to the

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high-profile nature of the conversation,

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uh it was determined that that will be

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open to the public uh to observe.

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However, I want to make sure that people

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understand that is not the public

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meeting um where public input will be

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sought. That will be a follow-up meeting

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and it's not an opportunity to add or

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change uh the requirements that council

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laid out by resolution. So, it's

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basically um the opportunity for staff

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and and representatives from council to

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be there to make sure that they

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understand what the ask is and just to

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clarify. So, that'll be a kickoff

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meeting here.

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» What's the date and time?

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» That is Thursday, August 13th at 100

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p.m.

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» They must know that's when I play

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bridge.

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» They planned the whole thing around.

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» Will they be?

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here

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» And it will be here.

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» Will that be hosted online as well?

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» Um, not

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» I don't I don't know that there's a plan

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to host it online. Um, and I for the

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record may not be there. I have I have

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plans that may have me out of town. I'm

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I'm presuming that you will be there not

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heard contrary

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» Um to that.

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» Um yeah, day after tomorrow.

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» Okay.

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» Um so anyway, so there

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» Council member Davis. So that's just the

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ice rink meeting or is it the grant

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committee meeting?

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» No, no, this is this is just the kickoff

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meeting. This is hi, you're doing this

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report for us. We just want to answer

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any questions. If you read what the

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report is, if you have any questions

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about what our requests are and there

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was a meeting where they sat down and

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went through the resolution and spelled

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out exactly the the the goal of this

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report is for council to have the

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information they need to make a

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decision. We we literally gave them the

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resolution with the ask in the

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resolution that council wanted and those

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are you know if they're not going to be

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in the engineering report they have to

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be presented some you know before we

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make a decision those in that resolution

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had

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» And my understanding is that that's

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pretty much what the engineering report

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is

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» That's what the it's supposed to be

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included within that engineering report

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the P

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» And we don't have anything preliminary

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now everything's presented to that

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meeting because this meeting is strictly

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for to run through that resolution and

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to make sure that they know ahead of

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time all of the items that need to be

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presented within that report and that

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the the citizens have the ability to

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understand that we are requesting that

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information

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» And if they have a question what do you

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mean by number three so this isn't the

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resolution that's passed then they can

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ask and get that clarification at that

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meeting.

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» Okay, great. Thank you.

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» Okay.

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Um All right. um the water

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» Pool operations. We are nearing the end.

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In fact, we're getting to the point

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where it starts to become very very

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difficult to staff the pool. Um with

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with kids going off to college and

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getting in. Um August 23rd is going to

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be the final full day of operations,

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meaning open swim and lap swim. Um they

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are going to extend that for another

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week um from 24th to 28th, weather

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permitting. They are going to have um

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the lap swims and the aerobics from 7:00

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a.m. to 11:00. They're also doing some

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additional work with the high school and

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the and the PE classes to get in there.

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Um the on the August 29th and 30th, they

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are going to open up on the weekend and

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have recreational swim. So, that'll be

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kind of the normal hours. Um right now,

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the plan is that um and then from the

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31st to September 3rd, they're basically

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keeping it open until Labor Day weekend,

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weather permitting. Um, and then

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aerobics will be up until the 3. On the

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3 will be the dog swim evening. That was

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really fun. Last year there was probably

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I I want to say 25 to 30 dogs. I

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actually took pictures and counted.

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» Did you go?

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» Um, bait your dogs before they come.

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» Um, and then on the fourth they'll be

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shutting down the pool and going from

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there.

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» So, and and I'll just give a public

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shout out. um the the folks who have

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worked down the pool this year um have

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done a really good job of just stepping

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up and doing what it took to keep it

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running and and the feedback has been

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really good.

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Um approved events. Uh we had one new

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request on Lion's Park on August 16th.

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So that's this coming Sunday. There's an

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event called Church in the Park. It's

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actually multiple churches that have

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just reserved the park um for a few

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hours that day that will be in the park.

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Thank you.

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Um, from a public works standpoint,

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um, if all goes according to plan, and

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we're halfway through one of two very

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breatholding days,

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» Um, a lot of surprises showed up today,

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but they were able to deal with them

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real time, but by the end of day

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tomorrow, they should be done with all

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of the water tie-ins for the water

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portion of the project that's done.

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» I'll have water

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» After Yeah. So, we've got one more day

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to go through that. After that, it'll be

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clean up and then and then working

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toward um pavement. Um so, uh that's

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going to start on the week of the 24th

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and and and the way it works is they

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come in and they lay the concrete in the

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curbs and this kind of pertains to the

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EDA stuff as well. Um most of the

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concrete, there's some of it they do for

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the ADA corners that they do after the

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paving. So, there's concrete, get it

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ready, then they pave, and then they'll

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come back in and clean that up. Um but

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that should be done um by the end of

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this month and actually even be a little

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sooner than that. Sewer is going to

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start Tuesday.

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Um there is going to be some impact. Um

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they're trying to get to the school done

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before school starts so that they're not

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impacting sewers on the first day of

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school.

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Um,

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» How nice that blue.

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» And then I said the north end of town is

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ADA on and and it's folks down on Hower,

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you'll see them come in and doing the

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sidewalk and the curb and then they'll

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come back in and do the pavement and

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then come back and and do the

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finalization on the sidewalks after

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that.

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» So for Hower when

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» That so Hower taking advant um that's

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something else there. Uh I want to say

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the end of this month check online for

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the latest dates. We do keep it posted

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and that's up there. But we are on on

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the closing and and that my my favorite

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feedback and it's feedback we've heard

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several times um is someone will come in

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and say it's absolutely wonderful.

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They're doing great. They're fantastic.

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Yes, period. And we're so looking

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forward to them being done and gone. So

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that that's a that's part of a statement

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as well.

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» They last um on the street project they

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will start paving on the west side next

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Monday if

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» So that's that's kind of your question

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there.

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» Yeah.

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» Okay. Thank you.

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» Soon. Very soon.

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» Um and and there have been a couple of

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questions or comments that have come up.

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I think there was one contractor that

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did not understand that that the city

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and aka the contractors are respons are

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responsible for restoration when they

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work on those projects and that includes

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in the boulevard and grass and

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sprinklers and all that sort of stuff.

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Rest assured that the city is aware and

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the contractors are aware. Um but I am

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aware of of one or two um workers that

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may not have been aware that that that

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is part of the project. So that is being

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addressed.

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um

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Rocky Bank Fort Construction. I'll just

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throw out um we are working very hard to

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make sure that is done by the 30th. Um

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there's two problems with that. Um the

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the the

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FEMA would have to extend it beyond

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that, but more importantly, we're not

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sure we can get fish wildlife parks on

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board. There was a question about how to

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do it with willows and they found that

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what they can do is get the willows and

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they don't have to wait for the dormant.

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They just have to transplant them within

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48 hours when they get them in. So, we

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are still working to have that done. I

530
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will throw out that we are going to have

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FEMA is coming to town next Wednesday.

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Um if you see folks around or down

533
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looking at the site, um they are coming

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to basically collect success stories and

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and look at the Rocky Fork. Um, but the

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secondary motive is we're going to make

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sure they get a really thorough tour of

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Eagle's Nest. This is the people that

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So, we're continuing to work our way up

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the line to make sure that the people

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who are approving that project are on

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board and and happy with that.

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I think that did Can you think of

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00:20:07,679 --> 00:20:12,080
anything else from the public works that

545
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,840
I needed to address?

546
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,000
» No, I think that's about it.

547
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,600
» Council member Davis, you had something?

548
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,640
» No, not from public works. Okay. It's

549
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,720
about the um 50/50 sidewalk that there's

550
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,080
been lots of applications and a lot of

551
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,360
So it's great people are taking

552
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,960
» I understand there's one block down

553
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,720
there from 5th to six that pretty much

554
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,039
the whole block is taking advantage of

555
00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,840
it.

556
00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:34,559
» Half the block

557
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,559
» Half of one side of the block

558
00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:37,559
half

559
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,760
» And and then um council member RDE uh I

560
00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:44,880
have a note that there's a

561
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,640
sustainability fair September 10th at

562
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,600
the Roosevelt from 2 to 7. Do you want

563
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,919
to give us some more information on

564
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,159
that?

565
00:20:47,919 --> 00:20:52,799
» Uh, I'm not sustainability board

566
00:20:50,159 --> 00:20:55,600
anymore, but it's from 2:00 to 7:00 and

567
00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:58,559
Stephanie Nofall is arranging it and

568
00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,960
there'll be vendors and such from 2 to 7

569
00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:01,440
on the grounds at Roosevelt. That's a

570
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,799
Thursday.

571
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,760
» The parks board is also up.

572
00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:04,720
» Oh, parks board.

573
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,400
» They're Yeah,

574
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,039
» They haven't asked me anything, but um

575
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,280
» Yeah,

576
00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:10,720
» But Stephanie's in charge. Yeah. So, but

577
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,360
anyway, I think there's going to be

578
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,520
music and vendors and

579
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:16,960
» The bear guy maybe and

580
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,600
» Inside.

581
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,720
» No, just I think just in a yard.

582
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,280
» In a nice new yard.

583
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,760
» All right.

584
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,640
» Thank you, Jody, for adding to that for

585
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,240
me.

586
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,080
» That's what I have for any other

587
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:31,120
homework assignments to address during

588
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:33,280
this stage of the meeting.

589
00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:33,919
» All hearing none. And I did your yours

590
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,720
something for later.

591
00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:36,799
» I'm good. Thank you.

592
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,080
» All right. Having do that, um, what

593
00:21:36,799 --> 00:21:41,840
we're going to do is we're going to move

594
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:44,559
on to public comment. So, this is the

595
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,320
first of a couple of different options

596
00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:48,159
for public comment. We always start the

597
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,159
meeting with public comment, which is

598
00:21:48,159 --> 00:21:51,760
the opportunity for the council to hear

599
00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:54,320
any comments within the council's

600
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,760
purview. Um, and then when we have

601
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,240
action items, there's always an

602
00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,480
opportunity uh for public comment on

603
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:03,600
those. Uh, during the public comment,

604
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,000
you'll have three minutes. um you uh

605
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,919
direct your comments to me, please. Um

606
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,200
and again, it's it's it's comments. It's

607
00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:12,240
not a it's not a back and forth

608
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:14,960
conversation or dialogue. Um but we will

609
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:17,960
go ahead and open the meeting for public

610
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,960
comment.

611
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:28,400
» Go ahead. So, come come on up to the

612
00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:30,640
» Y come up to the

613
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,840
» That way they can hear it. I I realize

614
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,440
you're just stalling while I get to my

615
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,679
three minutes, so I appreciate that.

616
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,799
» Um, actually, I just wanted to

617
00:22:35,679 --> 00:22:42,080
compliment COP construction. I happen to

618
00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:45,360
be on a block that they've torn up and

619
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:48,960
put back together 106 times. It seems

620
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:50,240
like they haven't, but um,

621
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,520
» Can I get your name for the record? I

622
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,840
forgot to say state your name for the

623
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,280
record.

624
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:58,240
» I'm Sheri McCully.

625
00:22:53,280 --> 00:23:00,559
» Okay. And uh anyway, they dug a hole to

626
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:03,600
put in a fire hydrant

627
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:06,960
and then they of course to connect the

628
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:09,919
my water line and then it rained and

629
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,320
those holes just sunk, sunk, sunk and

630
00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:15,440
they came back and filled them up and

631
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:18,159
put top soil over them. They marked my

632
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,799
underground sprinklers. They were

633
00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:22,320
wonderful to work with. That's just my

634
00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:24,559
public comment.

635
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,159
» Thank you, Sherry.

636
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:29,120
All right. Any other public comment?

637
00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:30,960
Looking to the room.

638
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:32,400
Seeing none in the room, let me look

639
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,240
online and see if there's any public

640
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:38,480
comment. I'm looking for cameras turned

641
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:40,640
on or I'm looking for mics off, not on

642
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:44,520
mute. Anna, I see an unmuted mic. Did

643
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,520
you wish to make a public comment?

644
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,000
All right. I'm not hearing anything. So,

645
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,559
I'm assuming that was not intentional.

646
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,400
And she's there and now it's not muted.

647
00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:58,080
All right.

648
00:23:54,400 --> 00:24:00,159
Public comment going once.

649
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,159
Public comment going twice.

650
00:24:00,159 --> 00:24:03,600
» Hey, this is Jeff Wise. Hang on a

651
00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:05,280
second.

652
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,720
» Go ahead, Jeff. You have the floor for

653
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,799
three minutes.

654
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:12,880
» I don't need that much. Uh, this goes to

655
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:15,360
the Rocky Fork Bank uh project. Um, a

656
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,559
while back I took some pictures of big

657
00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:20,960
chunks of concrete and um, you know,

658
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:23,120
luck from the flood and asphalt over

659
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,200
there by the historical uh, information

660
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:26,960
signs. Uh, are they going to be

661
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,080
addressing any of that stuff that's

662
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,240
still in the creek? That's my question.

663
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,799
Okay. Thanks.

664
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,039
» All right. Thank Thank you for your

665
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:40,840
comment, Jeff.

666
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:40,840
Any other public comment?

667
00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:49,919
All right, third time we'll go ahead and

668
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:54,320
close public comment. Um I I will take

669
00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:56,880
uh my my option to just respond briefly.

670
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,919
Um the bank stabilization does not

671
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,360
address the stuff in the creek. That's a

672
00:24:59,919 --> 00:25:03,840
whole bunch of additional permits and

673
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:05,440
flooding and they and and the the county

674
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,919
is aware of that which is actually their

675
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,520
jurisdiction. And so we will continue to

676
00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:10,720
look for opportunities to clean up some

677
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,000
of the junk that's been in there for

678
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080
years and years and certainly not

679
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,760
improved by the flood. Um but to my

680
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,679
understanding that is not part of this

681
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,960
project.

682
00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:24,400
All right, with that we will um bring it

683
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,840
back to the table. Um Jeremy, were you

684
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,240
able to find the script that I'm looking

685
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,960
for for for parks board where we qualify

686
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,200
the board and clarify that this is a

687
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,159
this n this is quasi judicial in nature

688
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,440
or am I going to have to do it from

689
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:39,120
memory?

690
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:41,200
Uh, I don't Jeff had that list. So, uh,

691
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:42,880
he uses that the planning board meetings

692
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,559
for the public hearings. I don't have

693
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,960
that, but

694
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:50,400
» Okay. Thank you. And I and I I have

695
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:52,799
that, too. Um, but I just don't know

696
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,720
where I said I'm looking down one more

697
00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:56,400
time and and we have another one next

698
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,279
week and I'll I'll find it and bring it

699
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:02,960
to that. Um but at this point what we

700
00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:05,520
will do um our our our loan action item

701
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:08,400
is actually a variance request which is

702
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:11,200
for the board of adjustments which is

703
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:14,080
clarified as our city council.

704
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,559
» So there are certain things um that come

705
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,559
directly to the board of adjustments and

706
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:22,159
bypass planning. This is one of those

707
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:24,240
and I'll let um let um Jeremy speak to

708
00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:26,000
that in just a moment. Um and then there

709
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,840
are sometimes when things go to planning

710
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,080
board and if they wish to appeal a

711
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,919
decision from planning board then that

712
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:36,159
also comes to the board of adjustments

713
00:26:31,919 --> 00:26:38,080
aka city council. So there will be uh an

714
00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:40,799
appeal request that comes in two weeks

715
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,000
just FYI so that you know. Um and with

716
00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:45,039
that what I'm going to do is I'm going

717
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,720
to turn the time over to uh Jeremy.

718
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:49,039
We've got that pen. So he's he's the

719
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,640
little head up on top there. Um Jeremy,

720
00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:53,760
do you want to go through the the

721
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,480
process and describe um the boundaries

722
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,640
and what we're here to do tonight?

723
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,880
» Sure. Thanks, Dave. Uh thanks, council

724
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:04,960
members. Um appreciate your time

725
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:07,679
tonight. Um this uh application is for

726
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:10,559
524 Grant Avenue South. Uh it's a

727
00:27:07,679 --> 00:27:14,320
sideyard setback variance request uh

728
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:17,279
made by Cheryl McCully um who you just

729
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:21,120
heard from earlier. Um I did prepare a

730
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:24,480
staff report for this. Um I will say

731
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:27,840
that variance requests have to be or or

732
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,679
any quasi judicial matter in front of

733
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:33,039
either the planning board or the city

734
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:36,000
council has to be reviewed based on the

735
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:38,960
merits of the application submitted. Um

736
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:41,520
and that's based on the criteria that's

737
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,880
outlined in the zoning regulations or

738
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,120
whatever regulation that you're

739
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,240
reviewing under. uh whether it be zoning

740
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:51,600
or subdivision or whatever. Um so in

741
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:54,880
this case the staff report was prepared

742
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,440
based on uh the application submitted

743
00:27:54,880 --> 00:28:00,559
information provided by the applicant

744
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:03,440
and the specific impacts or

745
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:04,720
circumstances of this particular

746
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:09,600
request.

747
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:13,440
uh we do not review uh for potential

748
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,600
impacts uh on future applications that

749
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,760
may come in to the city for variance

750
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:22,480
requests. Um that that that future

751
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,480
variance request is based on that

752
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,640
application at that time, right? And

753
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,799
that specific those specific

754
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:33,200
circumstances and those specific

755
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:34,480
impacts. Um so based on uh hopefully all

756
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,120
of you have had a chance to review the

757
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,840
staff report that was prepared for this

758
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:41,679
uh this variance application. Um I'm

759
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,159
just going to briefly go through it

760
00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:45,440
since um hopefully you've all had a

761
00:28:44,159 --> 00:28:47,679
chance to review it. I don't want to

762
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,880
read the entire thing uh because I do

763
00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:53,679
want to get to the applicants uh

764
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,159
presentation or comments on on on their

765
00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:58,960
application and then to public comment

766
00:28:56,159 --> 00:29:02,720
and your discussion and questions.

767
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:05,760
Uh so as I stated um the uh variance is

768
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:08,240
for 524 Grant Avenue South which is uh

769
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:13,120
legally described as lots 15 and 16 of

770
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:15,679
block 39 of the BLheimimer edition. Um I

771
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,320
will make a mention that throughout the

772
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:19,919
staff report I did notice tonight um as

773
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,000
I was reviewing going back through the

774
00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:24,320
staff report preparing for the meeting

775
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:28,399
that it does incorrectly reference it

776
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:30,720
that it borders 15th Street. It should

777
00:29:28,399 --> 00:29:32,720
that is incorrect. It borders 17th

778
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,360
Street. So, I do want to make that

779
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:40,720
clarification and I apologize for that.

780
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:42,159
Um, that was my fault for just

781
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,039
getting that through the entire staff

782
00:29:42,159 --> 00:29:47,279
report. But, um, where 15th Street right

783
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:49,039
away is, it should be 17th Street. Just

784
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:50,640
just I want to It doesn't change the

785
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:53,120
staff report. It doesn't change the

786
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,720
findings. Um, it's just a reference to

787
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,960
the adjacent street and right ofway. Uh

788
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,720
» Jeremy, when we when there's a motion to

789
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,399
accept the staff report, do we want

790
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,559
there to be a motion just to amend all

791
00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:06,240
references of 15th to 17th just to

792
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:07,039
include that in the record?

793
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,799
» Yes.

794
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:10,799
» Yep. You you took the words right out of

795
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:14,799
my mouth. So

796
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:17,039
um but yeah uh so this uh uh the this

797
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:21,120
public hearing was noticed uh in the

798
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:23,600
paper uh uh 15 calendar days or minimum

799
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:27,120
of 15 calendar days prior to the meeting

800
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:30,159
and we sent uh joining landowner letters

801
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:33,360
um to all adjacent land owners uh around

802
00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:37,840
the property on July 16th

803
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:40,559
um or sorry uh the week of July 20th and

804
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:44,000
the applicant was notified on July 16th

805
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:48,640
of this hearing. Um the app the request

806
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:52,480
is for a reduction in the east side

807
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:55,039
required 6-foot uh sideyard setback. Um

808
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,600
the zoning regulations require a 6ft

809
00:30:55,039 --> 00:31:02,159
sideyard setback for structures uh

810
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:06,559
within the R2 zoning district. Um the

811
00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:09,279
request is to reduce that down to.7 ft

812
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:11,520
um instead of the 6 ft on the east

813
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:14,720
property boundary adjacent to 17th

814
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:18,159
Street. Um in this area currently there

815
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:21,520
is a deck um that deck would be removed

816
00:31:18,159 --> 00:31:27,039
uh and replaced with the addition. Um

817
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:28,960
there is uh approximately 10 ft uh uh or

818
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:33,200
so of

819
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:35,279
um you know pavement area and and from

820
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,279
the proposed addition to the edge of

821
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:38,279
pavement.

822
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:44,399
See so the the addition does not uh is

823
00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:47,200
not going right up against the uh the

824
00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:49,760
existing road surfacing. It is just

825
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,679
close to the existing right-of-way line

826
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,559
or property boundary for the prop for

827
00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:59,240
the property.

828
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:59,240
Um let's see.

829
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:07,279
So our our overall the the applicant's

830
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:10,799
proposal meets uh the sub the zoning

831
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:13,200
regulations for Rad Lodge for the R2

832
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:16,960
district as far as purpose uh

833
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:19,840
residential parents and um surrounding

834
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,760
uh context. The dimensional standard for

835
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:25,360
the sixoot sideyard setback is the only

836
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,360
request within this uh application.

837
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:31,600
staff recommendation

838
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:33,840
um is approval with conditions. Um we

839
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:38,480
are proposing

840
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:40,159
11 conditions um essentially that the

841
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,559
approval is limited to the requested

842
00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:44,559
variance. So it's only limited to that

843
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:46,240
sideyard setback. So no other variance

844
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:48,720
is requested. So there's no height

845
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,720
variance requested. No other no other

846
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:53,840
variances are requested at this time. So

847
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,760
the variance is restricted to that. um

848
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,519
must be in compliance with the plans.

849
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,159
The property owner must verify the

850
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:03,600
property line before construction. Uh

851
00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:06,720
they cannot encroach any of the project

852
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:09,360
within the uh street ride ofway

853
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:12,240
including eaves or any other uh any

854
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,279
other portions of the structure. Um

855
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:17,519
drainage and snow management shall be uh

856
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:20,559
consistent with current drainage

857
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:24,720
patterns uh that are on the property and

858
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:28,399
cannot substantially be altered. Um need

859
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:32,559
to get a building uh building permit for

860
00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:36,080
the uh for the structure. Um

861
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:38,080
any utility easements or or utilities or

862
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,559
easements should be protected. So those

863
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,399
will need to be marked and protected uh

864
00:33:40,559 --> 00:33:44,799
during construction.

865
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:48,640
Any other permits that are required will

866
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:50,559
be required. Uh the

867
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,640
addition has to maintain the residential

868
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:55,840
appearance which according to the plans

869
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:59,679
will um no expansion other than what's

870
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:02,880
approved in the variance can be done um

871
00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:04,960
without a future uh application and

872
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,600
additional approvals. And then this

873
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:11,200
expires within one year if they do not

874
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:15,960
uh pursue the uh building permit pro

875
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,960
building permits or construction.

876
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,320
So the review criteria we have seven

877
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,000
review criteria within the zoning

878
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,280
regulations that we have to review for.

879
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:30,639
We have special conditions uh not result

880
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:34,399
of the applicant's uh anything that the

881
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:38,800
applicant has done uh strict application

882
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:40,800
uh of the uh regulations is unreasonable

883
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,919
necessary to provide reasonable use of

884
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:46,320
the property minimum variance required

885
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:49,440
and not injuries

886
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:52,079
um inconsistent with the regulations.

887
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,919
Well, based on uh the analysis that we

888
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:57,119
have done, I'm not going to read through

889
00:34:53,919 --> 00:35:01,280
every single one of these. Um but staff

890
00:34:57,119 --> 00:35:02,960
has staff has determined that um this

891
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,560
request does meet all of these

892
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,760
requirements.

893
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:09,440
Um and again, I I will just reiterate

894
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,720
staff does recommend approval of the

895
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:16,079
variance um to reduce that required six

896
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:20,640
foot south uh sideyard setback to

897
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:23,760
approximately 7 feet. Um, and then I

898
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:27,040
will just finish up by saying if the

899
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:29,760
board of adjustment uh chooses to go a

900
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,320
different direction as in denial of the

901
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:35,119
variance then you need to make a

902
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,839
specific finding as to why you are

903
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:41,839
denying the variance in conjunction with

904
00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:44,720
those seven criteria. So it it has to be

905
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:48,079
that you you do not consider that they

906
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:53,040
have a special condition and why or you

907
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:54,880
you you do not feel that um it's it's or

908
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,520
you feel it is injurious to the

909
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,760
neighborhood or detrit to public welfare

910
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,400
and why right so you need to make

911
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:04,880
findings as to why you are denying the

912
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,920
the the variance application when you

913
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:09,599
make your uh um when you make your

914
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,599
motion.

915
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:13,119
With that, I will turn it back over to

916
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,079
you,

917
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,160
Dave.

918
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:20,240
» All right. So, at this point, what we'll

919
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,880
do is we will open up to questions to

920
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:24,320
Jeremy on the stack report from the

921
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,720
table. So, if you have any questions

922
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,280
about anything in here and what it means

923
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,800
or if you want to dig or pry into some

924
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,200
of the findings, this is your

925
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,119
opportunity for the table to directly

926
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,280
ask questions and have Jeremy answer

927
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,720
those questions. After that, by the way,

928
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,880
what we will then do is we will then go

929
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,400
to the applicant who will who will be

930
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,160
able to address comments and that's part

931
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,680
of the reason we're doing kind of the

932
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,000
questions first. That gives them a feel

933
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,920
for where things are going. Um, and then

934
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,079
we'll bring it back and and do a public

935
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,119
hearing before we make our final action.

936
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:56,160
So, at this time, um, um, Council Member

937
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,680
Davis, go ahead.

938
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,240
» Um, I was just thinking earlier, and I

939
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,000
may have missed it in the paperwork, but

940
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:05,040
so no neighbors need to be involved in

941
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,640
any of this because it's just our two

942
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,119
zones. Jeremy, do you want to speak to

943
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:11,119
that please?

944
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:13,839
» The question was, do the neighbors need

945
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:14,720
to be involved in this discussion? Is

946
00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:18,640
that what you said?

947
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:20,640
» Notification notified.

948
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,680
» Whatification is required? What was

949
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,160
done? Thank you.

950
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,079
» We we sent uh notification of this

951
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,000
public hearing to all adjoin adjacent

952
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:30,320
land owners, even the land owners across

953
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:32,320
the street rights of way so they could

954
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,480
participate in this public hearing and

955
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,400
or provide written public comment to the

956
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,160
board of adjustment.

957
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,160
» Okay, great. Thank you.

958
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,280
» And did you receive any feedback in

959
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,720
written?

960
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:46,160
» I did not.

961
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,160
» Other questions from the table looking

962
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,000
for hands? That was my question is if

963
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,400
there had been any other feedback

964
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,440
negative or positive

965
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,920
from neighbors.

966
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:01,040
» I have only one question. Is there any

967
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,280
concern of this building like the

968
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:06,800
extension of it creating any sort of

969
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:08,079
hazard with view uh on an intersection?

970
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,480
That would be the only thing that I have

971
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:10,000
on it.

972
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,560
» Jim Ray, would you like to speak to that

973
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,720
please?

974
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,960
» Yep. I did look at that and the addition

975
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,880
is well back from the uh from the

976
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,599
intersection and I don't have any

977
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:21,359
concerns with site vision triangle.

978
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:24,640
» Perfect. Thank you.

979
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:27,359
» I I will share that um the information

980
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,599
was also relayed on to the building

981
00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:32,400
inspector and fire and that was a

982
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:34,000
specific uh issue that was looked at and

983
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,839
considered.

984
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,599
» Yep.

985
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:41,440
» Any other further questions from the um

986
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:43,520
council member Davis? Um, just a note on

987
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,680
page seven of seven under public

988
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,280
comment, it just says no public comment

989
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,800
has be received. So,

990
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,960
» I don't know if it's official document,

991
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,640
but

992
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,920
» It it is. I just want to validate. We

993
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,560
haven't heard anything since then as

994
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,480
well.

995
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,079
» Been received is what she was trying to

996
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,640
say.

997
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,240
» Yeah.

998
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,359
» Okay. Typo on seven.

999
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,280
» Seven months ago.

1000
00:38:59,359 --> 00:39:02,480
» Okay. We can we can do that without we

1001
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,040
can do that without an edit.

1002
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,920
» Yeah.

1003
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,359
» He received.

1004
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,720
» All right. Sorry, I'm slow.

1005
00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:08,400
» No. No.

1006
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:11,440
» All right. Any other questions from

1007
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:15,119
staff before we give the applicant an

1008
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,640
opportunity to speak to council?

1009
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,560
Seeing none, if you would like to come

1010
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,440
speak to council, this is not a timed

1011
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,599
activity. Um, so so I'll I'll cut you

1012
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:28,720
off if you get carried away, but but

1013
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:31,440
please point for keeping it short. No,

1014
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:33,520
» My name is Sheri McCully. I live at 524

1015
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:37,680
Grant Avenue South. I have lived there

1016
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:40,079
for 38 years.

1017
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:43,359
My husband and I are in our seven days.

1018
00:39:40,079 --> 00:39:45,440
My husband is handicapped. He has a

1019
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:48,960
walker.

1020
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:52,400
And uh I went through every every hoop.

1021
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,960
I had my land surveyed. I'm on a corner

1022
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:57,920
lot. I had my land surveyed. And of

1023
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,160
course, the home was built in 1925. So,

1024
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:04,079
as you can imagine,

1025
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:07,200
my neighbor lives in my yard on on my

1026
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:12,960
north side, which of course created the

1027
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:16,400
six-foot setback on the south side. Um,

1028
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:20,240
when I started my remodel project, all

1029
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:24,000
I'm trying to do is move my laundry and

1030
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:28,000
a handicap bathroom accessible so we can

1031
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,320
remain there the rest of our lives. Um,

1032
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,359
it doesn't affect I mean, if you look up

1033
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,520
and down the street, my project is not

1034
00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:38,720
going to stick out any further than my

1035
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:41,359
neighbor's garage. My garage,

1036
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:42,560
you know, it's just the timing of the

1037
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:44,480
beast.

1038
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,640
» If I had have known that I was going to

1039
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,960
stay here for all these years, I'd

1040
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,000
probably I couldn't afford it before.

1041
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,400
Anyway, the goal is to to make my home

1042
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,119
habitable so my husband and I can remain

1043
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,520
there until we can't.

1044
00:40:57,119 --> 00:40:59,119
» Perfect.

1045
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,960
» May I ask this question? Can I have you

1046
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:02,000
speak to one of the requirements they

1047
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,839
give us

1048
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,640
» Is is

1049
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:08,800
an an undue hardship. Can you speak

1050
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,240
about some other alternatives or plans

1051
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,839
you kind of looked out on the layout in

1052
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,160
the land and and why you selected this

1053
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:16,480
one?

1054
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:19,599
» Just the way that my home is laid out.

1055
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:23,599
The only economically

1056
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:26,400
feasible approach is to go south. If I

1057
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:32,079
were to go um I would definitely have to

1058
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:33,920
admit if I were to go to the the west

1059
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,240
that would increase my dining room and

1060
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,680
give me

1061
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,839
but it's not going to do me any good. I

1062
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:44,000
don't need a bigger dining room. I need

1063
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:46,560
a bathroom. If I were to go to the east,

1064
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,119
um, that would connect to my bedroom,

1065
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:52,800
but I would have to change the entire

1066
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:55,839
roof line. Um,

1067
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:58,319
it's not economically feasible.

1068
00:41:55,839 --> 00:42:00,000
» Um, can I ask does where you're putting

1069
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:02,240
the bathroom, does it share a wall with

1070
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,599
other water and sewer right there, too?

1071
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,680
So, it's

1072
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:07,280
» Yes. So because that's I know that is a

1073
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,400
huge expense if you have to create a

1074
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,960
whole new water plumbing another section

1075
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,880
of the house.

1076
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,400
» Mark checker here my

1077
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,880
» My contractor and moral support. I mean

1078
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,359
we've looked at it from every angle we

1079
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:24,319
possibly can.

1080
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:25,599
And um yeah if I had a bazillion dollars

1081
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:28,400
first off I wouldn't need a variance.

1082
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:30,000
I'd buy a new house. So you know we

1083
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:32,079
tried to look at it from the shortest

1084
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,400
distance between two points

1085
00:42:32,079 --> 00:42:36,640
» That we could afford.

1086
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,480
And that's what it is.

1087
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,280
» Any other questions from the table for

1088
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,119
the applicant?

1089
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,280
» I just want to say that Sherry, I drove

1090
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:46,240
by the other day and I think it's great

1091
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,760
and I salute you. We're going to hear

1092
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:50,079
from a lot of people who want to live in

1093
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:52,000
their homes for a long time and and

1094
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:53,920
you're doing the right thing. So,

1095
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,480
» Talk to people at the Roosevelt Center

1096
00:42:53,920 --> 00:43:00,800
and I mean they're always trying to look

1097
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:03,680
for ways to find senior living. You

1098
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,760
know, I have it. Just help me. Help me

1099
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,800
make I I'll tell you how desperate we

1100
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:12,240
were. I switched We've been married 40

1101
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,520
years. I switched sides of bed with him

1102
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:17,359
so he could get Yeah, that's been

1103
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,359
exactly.

1104
00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:21,520
» Yeah. So, there you have it. Don't tell

1105
00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:24,000
me I didn't try.

1106
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,520
I didn't sleep for a month.

1107
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,240
» Any any other questions for the

1108
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,800
applicant from the table?

1109
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:32,079
» All right. Hearing none, thank you. We

1110
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,040
reserve the right to call you back, but

1111
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:34,720
go ahead and have a seat.

1112
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,319
» Thank you.

1113
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:38,160
» Um

1114
00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:39,680
Jeremy, please correct me if I'm wrong

1115
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,480
on the procedure here, but I believe we

1116
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,160
do go to public comment at this point.

1117
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,960
» Yes, you would open up to public

1118
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,560
comment.

1119
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,079
» All right. So, I'm going to go ahead and

1120
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,680
open this at public comment. The same

1121
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:52,240
rules apply. If you will direct your

1122
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,520
comments to me, you will be limited to

1123
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,440
three minutes. Please start your

1124
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,319
comments by identifying yourself for the

1125
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,760
record and we'll go from there. Open

1126
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:02,640
public comment. And I'll start by

1127
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:06,319
looking to the room.

1128
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:09,119
Seeing none, I'm looking online.

1129
00:44:06,319 --> 00:44:13,040
Public comment going once.

1130
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:16,319
Public comment going twice.

1131
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,839
Public Oh, go ahead. Uh Jeff, I see

1132
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:19,280
you're unmuted mic. You have the floor

1133
00:44:17,839 --> 00:44:22,400
for three minutes.

1134
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:25,119
» Yeah. Yeah. I just I guess I just kind

1135
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,800
of wanted to raise this Jeff.

1136
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,880
» Identify yourself. Yeah,

1137
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:34,160
» Jeff Debenadetto, 317, uh, South Hagen.

1138
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Um, also chair of the Red Lodge Planning

1139
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:40,560
Board. And I just kind of wanted to just

1140
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:45,599
raise the issue about setting precedent.

1141
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:49,280
Um, and and two two things that kind of

1142
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:52,000
struck out to me. One was was whether

1143
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:56,640
whether this was really meeting the

1144
00:44:52,000 --> 00:45:00,319
conditions for strict act application

1145
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,240
um is is unreasonable. a strict

1146
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:07,280
application of the of the zoning is

1147
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:11,040
unreasonable and and I think um it's

1148
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,880
hard to see where where this would be

1149
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,440
the situation would be any different

1150
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,920
than than any other residence within

1151
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:21,200
town within town. It's basically

1152
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:25,119
adhering to the existing uh layout of of

1153
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:29,040
the plat and lot layout of of the city

1154
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:31,839
throughout. And I my concern is that

1155
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:36,319
if you follow kind of the logic in the

1156
00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:38,480
staff report, um anybody any resident in

1157
00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:41,520
town could apply for a variance to

1158
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:45,040
setbacks and and it doesn't seem didn't

1159
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,839
seem like that really met this criteria.

1160
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:52,000
The the la the other comment I'd like to

1161
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:55,520
make is the 7 leaving 10.7

1162
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:59,680
ft of space between the proposed

1163
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:02,720
addition and the city rightway. And I

1164
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:07,440
guess it has to do with the future um

1165
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:10,560
construction of of gutter and sidewalk

1166
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,800
and curb. Um,

1167
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,599
this block doesn't have existing

1168
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:19,359
sidewalks, but the block to the west and

1169
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:22,079
the block to the east does. And I'm kind

1170
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:24,319
of just I just kind of wonder with it

1171
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:27,200
being so tight, what sort of constraints

1172
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:29,200
are going to entail when the city does

1173
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,079
come through and install curb and

1174
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:35,200
sutter, gutter, and sidewalk. um with

1175
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:38,880
only 7/10 of a of a foot of space

1176
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:42,319
between uh the rideway and the proposed

1177
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:46,000
addition. Um those are just basically

1178
00:46:42,319 --> 00:46:48,400
the two comments I had.

1179
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,040
Thank you, Jeff. Any other public

1180
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,800
comment?

1181
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,720
We'd already done a public comment going

1182
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,680
twice, so I'll make this public comment

1183
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:59,359
going three times.

1184
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,720
See, no additional public comment. I

1185
00:46:59,359 --> 00:47:03,599
will go ahead and bring it back to the

1186
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:05,839
table. Um Jeremy, could I get you to

1187
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:07,920
speak just to for a moment to the

1188
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:10,920
comments we've heard uh during public

1189
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,920
comment?

1190
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,800
» Sure. Um

1191
00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:18,480
I yeah I mean as to precedent uh again I

1192
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,440
I

1193
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:25,520
every application has to be reviewed on

1194
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:28,800
the merits of that application not what

1195
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:30,720
the effects of that will be on other

1196
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,640
properties within the city because every

1197
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,880
piece of property in the city is

1198
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,760
developed differently and has different

1199
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:42,640
circumstances. And so I would caution

1200
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:45,119
against uh precedent. Um again we we

1201
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:48,160
review for for these seven criteria on

1202
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:50,480
every application. Technically any lot

1203
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:52,720
in the city can apply for a variance of

1204
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:55,920
any development standard in the zoning

1205
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:58,880
regulations at any time. So, we as a

1206
00:47:55,920 --> 00:48:00,560
city or staff cannot prevent somebody

1207
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,720
from requesting a variance if they

1208
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,040
choose to go through that process and

1209
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:07,680
come before the board of adjustment um

1210
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,000
and make their case. Um they can do

1211
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,599
that. Um, there are situations where

1212
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,359
I've had in the past in other

1213
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:16,640
jurisdictions where I have recommended

1214
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:18,880
denial of variances because they had uh

1215
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:23,520
clear other alternatives to their

1216
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:26,800
project or the impact was too great on

1217
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:29,359
an adjacent property that I felt it

1218
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,760
didn't warrant granting a variance. And

1219
00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:34,640
so in this case, I don't have those

1220
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:38,319
concerns. I I will say if they had

1221
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:41,359
proposed this addition to the north uh

1222
00:48:38,319 --> 00:48:44,800
towards the adjacent property uh uh

1223
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:46,720
owner um and they were proposed to be.7

1224
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,520
ft from the adjacent property to the

1225
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,599
north, I would have recommended denial

1226
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:54,160
because they their impact on that

1227
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:55,680
property owner would have been uh would

1228
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,240
have been something that could not be

1229
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,880
mitigated. Okay. But because this is

1230
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:02,640
going towards the street rightway um and

1231
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,920
it's outside the site vision triangle

1232
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:09,200
and all of the proposal is within the

1233
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:11,280
limits of the property um and the other

1234
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,480
reasons outlined in the staff I felt

1235
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:18,000
that this uh my recommendation for

1236
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:20,400
approval was warranted. Um as for

1237
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,880
development within the city rideway uh

1238
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:26,160
again this this is within the property

1239
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,839
boundaries. So typically sidewalk is 1

1240
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:30,160
ft off of the property boundary. It's

1241
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:32,559
not right on the property boundary. So

1242
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:35,920
this addition would in theory be a foot

1243
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:38,480
and a half well just shy of 2 feet from

1244
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,960
any edge of sidewalk uh if a future

1245
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:43,200
sidewalk went through here. Um and then

1246
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,640
I the other thing I would point out is

1247
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,640
that in other in other zoning districts

1248
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,960
we have zero lot line setbacks and

1249
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,599
sidewalks are right up next to those

1250
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,839
those buildings as well. So, I guess I

1251
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:59,119
did don't find that a concern in in in

1252
00:49:55,839 --> 00:50:01,280
in my analysis, but um and I'll just

1253
00:49:59,119 --> 00:50:03,280
leave it at that.

1254
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:05,760
» Right. Thank you, Jeremy. Is there any

1255
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,119
other questions from the table before we

1256
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:10,880
proceed?

1257
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:15,040
» Um I do have one question in terms of

1258
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:16,720
the uh qualifiers because I don't

1259
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,280
remember them all off the top of my

1260
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:19,760
head, but

1261
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:22,160
» They're in staff report. No, I mean the

1262
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,599
the qualifications of the board of

1263
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,400
» Ad. Yep. And I'm going to do that in

1264
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,280
just a second. Okay.

1265
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,960
» So, do you have that?

1266
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,559
» I I I don't, but I do remember it

1267
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,960
somewhat. So, we're to test my memory.

1268
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,240
» Okay.

1269
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,839
» So, that is our next step.

1270
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:33,839
» Okay. Perfect. And I will wait for that

1271
00:50:31,839 --> 00:50:35,200
because if I recall, there is something

1272
00:50:33,839 --> 00:50:37,040
about correspondence.

1273
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:40,160
» Yep. So, that's the first question. All

1274
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:42,640
right. Hearing no other Oh, go ahead.

1275
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,599
Uh, council member Daniels question.

1276
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:48,000
just to ensure that I'm actually like I

1277
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,000
pulled up an image of Google Maps just

1278
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:54,720
to verify that I'm actually looking at

1279
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:56,480
the right section. So it's it's the

1280
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:01,319
going old school here. If you're facing

1281
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,319
the old dead like it's that that

1282
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,160
» Old school

1283
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,839
» I like I remember

1284
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:10,240
» Back in the summer of hawk six.

1285
00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:13,520
» Okay. Hey plunge.

1286
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:14,240
» The old plunge. The old plunge. I got to

1287
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,000
» Yep. All right.

1288
00:51:14,240 --> 00:51:17,440
» I've been I've lived here since the old

1289
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,280
son because that's how long I've been.

1290
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,440
» Okay. I also remember when you and

1291
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,359
Dennis were getting married, so that

1292
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:26,559
can't be that long ago. I don't agree to

1293
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:28,720
that. Um, and then there's I I am

1294
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,800
noticing that there is a sidewalk on the

1295
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,800
adjacent side of the road. So,

1296
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,240
» That one's already Okay. Sorry.

1297
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,359
» Are we done? Just thinking out loud.

1298
00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:35,760
That's okay. You're at the table. That's

1299
00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:36,720
allowed.

1300
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,359
» Thank you.

1301
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:39,200
» All right.

1302
00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:41,839
» Oh, glory. So now we're now we're going

1303
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:44,559
to test my four years of my memory from

1304
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:48,240
four years on the planning board. So the

1305
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:49,839
nature before us is quasi judicial in

1306
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,280
nature which basically means that you

1307
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:53,520
are not acting in a legislative

1308
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,520
capacity. You are acting in a quasi

1309
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:58,000
judicial capacity.

1310
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,720
As such uh what we do is we start by

1311
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,559
qualifying the board. Is there anyone at

1312
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:06,079
the table who has any exparte

1313
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:07,599
communications they wish slash need to

1314
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:09,200
disclose at this point of time? That

1315
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:11,440
would be any conversations with the

1316
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,359
applicants or anybody that's involved

1317
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:15,040
that the board would need to be aware of

1318
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:16,400
that you have those communications.

1319
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,559
Council member Tupin,

1320
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:21,359
» I have had a conversation with Sher I

1321
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:22,640
think like two years ago about this

1322
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:24,079
» And just

1323
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,160
» She must have been on a board that I

1324
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:27,200
thought I

1325
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,800
at this for two years.

1326
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,480
» Yeah, she's been at it for a minute. So

1327
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,240
again, she did bring up that this was

1328
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:36,559
something that she was looking at doing.

1329
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:38,960
She wasn't like bribing me or making any

1330
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:41,760
any threats or anything. Just more so

1331
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,839
letting me know of the nature of it. And

1332
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:46,240
I think just knowing that I'm involved

1333
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:48,240
in real estate and have education in

1334
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:49,680
this is kind of looking for direction.

1335
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:51,280
So I just want to make that clear

1336
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,800
» And and that's that's exactly what that

1337
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,400
opportunity is for is to make sure that

1338
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,480
if there's any exparte communication,

1339
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,599
it's out in the open and everybody's on

1340
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,079
board with it.

1341
00:52:57,599 --> 00:53:04,160
» Any other exparte communication anyone

1342
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:06,400
wishes to share? All right. Is there any

1343
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,319
reason that any board member feels that

1344
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,680
they have a conflict of interest or need

1345
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:11,920
to recuse themselves from this

1346
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,119
situation?

1347
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,280
» No.

1348
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:18,319
» All right. Hearing none, let the record

1349
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,000
show that the board has been qualified.

1350
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:22,480
The matter before us is quasi

1351
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,640
duditionial in nature. And at this

1352
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,040
point, what I'm looking at is a series

1353
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,200
of motions that are on page three,

1354
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,640
halfway down the staff report. Um

1355
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,319
there's a move to adopt the staff

1356
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,160
report. Uh we've heard with amendments

1357
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:35,599
and then there's separately a move to

1358
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,200
approve or deny the variance. I will

1359
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:42,079
entertain motion at this time.

1360
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:45,079
» Uh I move to adopt the staff report

1361
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:45,079
VAR-2026-01

1362
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,920
as the board of adjustment findings of

1363
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,200
facts and conclusions.

1364
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,079
Do you wish that to include any

1365
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,119
amendments like

1366
00:53:54,079 --> 00:53:59,760
» Uh as amended to or to amend with the

1367
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:01,839
amendment uh to change any instance of

1368
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,720
15th Street to 17th Street?

1369
00:54:01,839 --> 00:54:04,000
» I have a second.

1370
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:06,400
» I have a motion from council member

1371
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Tupin, a second from council member

1372
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,000
Ronnie. Any discussion at the table?

1373
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:15,599
» All right, hearing none and fully

1374
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:18,079
expecting Jeremy to jump in or Ronnie to

1375
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:20,000
jump in if I misstep at all. Um, I will

1376
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:22,160
go ahead and have a roll call on the

1377
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,640
motion to adopt.

1378
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,280
» Yes.

1379
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,839
» Daniel,

1380
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,400
» Yes.

1381
00:54:23,839 --> 00:54:24,880
» David,

1382
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,440
» Yes.

1383
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:25,920
» Ronnie,

1384
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,480
» Yes.

1385
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:26,880
» Rude,

1386
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,520
» Yes.

1387
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,599
» Tupin,

1388
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,559
» Yes.

1389
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:35,920
» All right. 6. Motion to adopt carries.

1390
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:41,480
I'll entertain a motion on the variance.

1391
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:41,480
I move to approve variance BR202601

1392
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:50,800
to reduce the required southside yard

1393
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:55,119
setback from 6 ft to approximately 0.7

1394
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:59,680
ft for the residential addition at 524

1395
00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:02,079
Grant Avenue South bordering 17th Street

1396
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:03,200
subject to the conditions stated in this

1397
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:05,040
staff report.

1398
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,800
» I will second. I have a motion from

1399
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:10,079
council member RDE, a second from

1400
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:13,040
council member Ronnie. Discussion at the

1401
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:14,559
table.

1402
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Hearing none. Can I get a roll call,

1403
00:55:14,559 --> 00:55:15,680
please?

1404
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,079
» Madd,

1405
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:16,640
» Yes.

1406
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,119
» Daniel,

1407
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:17,680
» Yes.

1408
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:18,640
» David,

1409
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,040
» Yes. Ronnie,

1410
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,520
» Yes.

1411
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,480
» Rude,

1412
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,839
» Yes.

1413
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,119
» Yes.

1414
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:27,200
» 6. The motion passes.

1415
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:27,760
Thank you for your time and good luck on

1416
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,839
your project.

1417
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,319
» Good luck you guys.

1418
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:34,240
» Thank you everyone.

1419
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:36,400
Thank you, Jeremy.

1420
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:38,079
» All right. Uh, thank you, Jeremy. If if

1421
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,079
you wish to go at this point, uh, thank

1422
00:55:38,079 --> 00:55:41,839
you. Your time is is very much

1423
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:43,920
appreciated. And go have a lovely

1424
00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:47,520
evening, and we'll look forward to

1425
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,839
non-billable evening from here on out.

1426
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,280
» All right.

1427
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:52,079
» You always got to throw that in there,

1428
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:53,440
don't you, Dave?

1429
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:55,280
» I just want to make sure you stop the

1430
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,760
clock on the way out.

1431
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,599
» All right.

1432
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,240
» Thank you for being here.

1433
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:02,240
» Thanks, everyone. Bye.

1434
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:03,920
All right, with that we will go ahead

1435
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:06,720
and close the action portion of our

1436
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,559
meeting and uh we will bring it back to

1437
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:12,400
the table. For those who have not had

1438
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:13,920
the opportunity to um join council

1439
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,440
meetings in the past, the second half of

1440
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,599
our council meetings are basically a

1441
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,400
work session. This is where we talk

1442
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:22,480
about the stuff that is coming up and

1443
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,240
give cha council a chance to talk

1444
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,640
amongst themselves outside of just the

1445
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:31,200
standing committees and to um make sure

1446
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:34,480
that we're ready for action in future

1447
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,720
meetings. We will start with the admin

1448
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:38,799
and finance standing committee and for

1449
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,160
that I will look to committee chair

1450
00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:41,200
Ronning to lead us through that

1451
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:43,920
discussion.

1452
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:46,960
» Okay. Well, up first is our budget

1453
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:50,559
review and that takes up the majority of

1454
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:54,799
our packet today. Um, first up in the

1455
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:57,520
packet was the draft resolution um that

1456
00:56:54,799 --> 00:57:01,839
we we will be passing will be at our

1457
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:05,599
next meeting um for to adopt the 2627

1458
00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:07,920
budget. And um it's broken down into our

1459
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:09,680
different categories. Um general, comp

1460
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,599
insurance, health insurance, PERS,

1461
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,440
police, retire, all the way down

1462
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:16,799
including solid waste, water, sewer,

1463
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:22,200
operating. And as you can see um our

1464
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:22,200
property tax revenue is $919,168.

1465
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:29,240
Our um non-t tax resources are

1466
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,240
27,543,922.

1467
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:36,200
and our total requirement for that

1468
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,200
budget is 28,463,090.

1469
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:43,359
And then after that, it gets into the

1470
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:47,200
weeds of what's behind all of those

1471
00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:51,119
numbers. Um, first up is our revenue

1472
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:54,000
side. Um, the spreadsheet in there. Um,

1473
00:57:51,119 --> 00:57:58,480
the value of the mill, as we figured,

1474
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,880
went up considerably. Um so what we will

1475
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:07,680
actually be assessing or allowed to

1476
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:10,720
access um is 63.02 mills. Um 49

1477
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:14,880
of that will be part of our general

1478
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:16,799
fund. The other goes towards the comp

1479
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,040
insurance health you know all all of

1480
00:58:16,799 --> 00:58:21,200
that police retirement and that's broken

1481
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,720
down in that resolution how that's that

1482
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:27,680
is. So 686,339

1483
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:32,400
is what's going into our general fund.

1484
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:35,760
So that that is our

1485
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:38,079
revenue side. Um if you go to the second

1486
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,559
page, it breaks down our non-levied

1487
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:43,839
funds. So that's not property taxes.

1488
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:47,920
That's where we get our water, our sewer

1489
00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:51,839
fees, our solid waste, our recycling. Um

1490
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:54,559
it also includes um our resort tax. Um

1491
00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:58,559
and if you look at that um it has what

1492
00:58:54,559 --> 00:59:01,760
we currently have um cash available plus

1493
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:03,440
what we're estimating to collect um

1494
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,079
which begin you know then we have our

1495
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:09,359
total resources. So that's what we are

1496
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:12,240
estimating we can spend um if we need

1497
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:15,760
to. Um does anybody have any questions

1498
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:17,440
on those revenue sides?

1499
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,960
Please speak up. I want everyone to

1500
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,799
understand this when you vote on it and

1501
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,160
Um,

1502
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:25,839
» Council Member Davis, go ahead.

1503
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,240
» Um, thank you for letting me ask

1504
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:30,559
questions. Um, how does this compare

1505
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:34,079
from last year? What went into the

1506
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:35,280
general fund from the mill?

1507
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:37,680
» A lot less.

1508
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,520
» Not a lot less. So, so we only get a

1509
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,160
certain amount of like money and then

1510
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,480
the money is determined on the mill.

1511
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,000
» So, so yeah. And and and we'll and I'll

1512
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:51,280
I'll address again I'll I'll bring the

1513
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:54,079
the kind of the special presentation. So

1514
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:56,240
there's almost a twostep process is how

1515
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:58,400
we get to this. So people always think

1516
00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:00,160
about oh my prop my property got

1517
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,680
evaluated and the property went up this

1518
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,680
much in value therefore my taxes are

1519
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,680
going to go up. And if you read actually

1520
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,920
as those and I interestingly enough I

1521
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,440
just read minded um that that came out

1522
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,599
this week and one of the things it calls

1523
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,920
out is your property taxes are not going

1524
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:17,440
to go up by the same amount necessarily.

1525
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:19,920
So what happens is the amount that the

1526
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:24,960
city is allowed to collect in property

1527
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:28,880
taxes is set by the legislature.

1528
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:32,000
Last year they modified it for the 25

1529
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:34,559
years prior to that. It was allowed to

1530
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,799
go up 1/2 the average rate of inflation

1531
01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:38,720
over the last 3 years. So take last

1532
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:41,359
year's amount, figure out what the

1533
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,520
average rate of inflation was,

1534
01:00:41,359 --> 01:00:45,920
and that's how much we get to go up. So

1535
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:47,520
that's step one and and it has still

1536
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,680
done that other than they now said we

1537
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:51,280
can use the actual rate of inflation and

1538
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,960
Lonnie I apologize I looked at the form

1539
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,680
you sent and I couldn't see the number

1540
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,319
on there

1541
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,440
» It's like 2 it's like the second line in

1542
01:00:56,319 --> 01:01:00,160
that formula

1543
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,240
» So so it's like it's like 2x% so

1544
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:06,480
whatever we got last year we get that

1545
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:09,359
plus new development plus 2x% so then

1546
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:12,400
the second part of that equation

1547
01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:14,799
is how many mills

1548
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,520
does it take to get to that amount of

1549
01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:16,079
money.

1550
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,160
» Okay?

1551
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:21,280
» And so that's where your property taxes

1552
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:25,040
come in because a mill by definition is

1553
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:27,119
1 1,000th of 1% of the entire value of

1554
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:31,200
the city.

1555
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:35,520
So what happens is if property values go

1556
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:38,880
up, the value of the city goes up.

1557
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,559
Therefore, the value of 1/ 10,000 goes

1558
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,880
up.

1559
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:44,480
And therefore, it takes less of those to

1560
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,880
get to the dollar amount that we

1561
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,319
established in step one.

1562
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,200
» The value of the mill went up to

1563
01:01:48,319 --> 01:01:53,280
$14,615.

1564
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,599
» And so last the biggest difference

1565
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:59,440
you'll see if you compare these to last

1566
01:01:55,599 --> 01:02:01,520
year is last year rather than 63 meals,

1567
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,720
we had 90

1568
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,880
Jeremy, do you remember off the top of

1569
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:08,000
your head? 92 point something.

1570
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:10,400
» Yeah. So we went from 92 or 93 ms down

1571
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:15,359
to 63 m. So you think, oh no, we only

1572
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:18,240
got we got a third less. No, we got 2.x%

1573
01:02:15,359 --> 01:02:21,280
more, but how many frog skins did we

1574
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:24,280
have to collect to get there? 63 versus

1575
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,280
93.

1576
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:29,440
» So the previous year was 2.11% for the

1577
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,760
current year inflation adjustment. This

1578
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:35,359
year it's 2.97%.

1579
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:38,480
» So So we got 2.97 over last year.

1580
01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:40,319
» Okay. Thank you. And and if anybody is

1581
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,440
listening and has any questions, you are

1582
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:45,599
welcome to to call the city. Um you can

1583
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,119
you can call and speak to the clerk. You

1584
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:49,520
can call and speak to me and I will do

1585
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:51,839
my very best. Um hopefully you should be

1586
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,280
able to call and speak to to um your

1587
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:55,119
council members and they will pull any

1588
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,520
of us in to help if if they need it. But

1589
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:59,200
I appreciate the fact that people are

1590
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,920
asking questions. That's that the the

1591
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:04,720
most the more we can do to help people

1592
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,520
apply that the better it is. Now, one of

1593
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,680
the things that is worth noting um and

1594
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:12,720
this will we'll hopefully we'll have uh

1595
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:14,960
this all finalized um by the time we

1596
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,839
adopt the budget.

1597
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,839
We have some obligations.

1598
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:22,480
Most specifically

1599
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:24,160
um our obligation, we outsource our fire

1600
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:26,079
protection services

1601
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,559
» To the Red Lodge Fire District. That's

1602
01:03:26,079 --> 01:03:31,280
not actually a city service. And our

1603
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:33,039
current contract is that we pay them 28

1604
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:37,520
mills.

1605
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:41,440
28 ms is a lot bigger share of 63 mills

1606
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:43,359
than it is of 93 mills. And in the past

1607
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:46,799
when we've broken that out, we we saw it

1608
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:51,039
go from 20% of our

1609
01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:54,400
property tax general budget to 30%. This

1610
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:56,880
year we're pushing up close to 50. The

1611
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,200
good news is that we have been and are

1612
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:02,960
in the process of finalizing uh

1613
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:05,200
negotiations with the fire district to

1614
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,440
change away from that millsbased

1615
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:09,119
contract in the negotiations. So we we

1616
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,960
saw this coming and we've been working

1617
01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:14,480
at it for a couple of years quite

1618
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:16,720
frankly um in anticipation of what we

1619
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:21,920
saw in our crystal balls foggy as they

1620
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:23,440
may be. Um, and so, uh, I I I feel very

1621
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,920
happy and comfortable with that and glad

1622
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,599
we were able to get that addressed.

1623
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,960
Um, so that's the most significant. With

1624
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:30,799
that, I'll shut up and turn things back

1625
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,640
over to Council President Ronnie, who

1626
01:04:30,799 --> 01:04:34,240
happens to be the the committee chair,

1627
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:36,880
too.

1628
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:39,760
» Um, so I guess, you know, the revenue

1629
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:42,240
side, um, if you just go down through

1630
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,000
those funds, it includes, you know,

1631
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:47,440
number one, the urban renewal tip

1632
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,920
district. Um we have not spent any money

1633
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,839
out of that yet. Um any requests for

1634
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:56,640
that money will go to council for

1635
01:04:51,839 --> 01:05:00,720
approval. Um the resort tax um we have

1636
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:04,559
currently 1.5 million in cash available

1637
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:07,440
and we pick

1638
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:10,960
we put 2 million 2 million in for

1639
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:13,039
collections and that's the 3% and we do

1640
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:16,319
put that high. We don't budget all of

1641
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:19,039
that because we have to collect it to

1642
01:05:16,319 --> 01:05:22,240
spend it. Um, so that's why there's a

1643
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:24,480
cash reserve of $691,000.

1644
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:26,000
Um, because we did not budget the whole

1645
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,440
$2 million.

1646
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,400
» May I add just one little thing to that?

1647
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:32,319
» Yes, please.

1648
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:35,680
» We The flip side of that is we cannot

1649
01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:37,920
spend it if we did not budget for it.

1650
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,760
So, for the past several years, ever

1651
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:43,280
since when I was on council and we got

1652
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:46,000
bit one year, um we collected more

1653
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:48,000
resort tax than anticipated and the city

1654
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,480
was not able to utilize that. So, as you

1655
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,920
look at the resort tax budget, um since

1656
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:56,960
that point in time, you will generally

1657
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:58,799
see a pretty large budget line item uh

1658
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,480
along the lines of pay off the pool

1659
01:05:58,799 --> 01:06:03,039
early, for instance.

1660
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,880
um you don't have to pay off the pool

1661
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:07,599
early, but if for some reason we have a

1662
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:10,960
stellar year in resort tax, it gives us

1663
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:12,880
the ability to utilize it for that,

1664
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:15,440
» But we have to have we have to have

1665
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,200
accommodated it within the budget in

1666
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,920
order for us to have that benefit.

1667
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:23,760
» Yes.

1668
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:26,400
» Um next is library. Um, and the majority

1669
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:29,119
of the library budget is actually paid

1670
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:31,760
through the county. It's a separate line

1671
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:32,240
item on your property taxes, but the

1672
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,720
city

1673
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,520
» That's not the that's their special

1674
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,559
account.

1675
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,760
» Oh, okay. I'm sorry.

1676
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,480
» In the general fund.

1677
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,440
» Oh, okay.

1678
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:42,079
» So, that the library has their own their

1679
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,119
own.

1680
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:46,640
» You're thinking the other

1681
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:48,480
that one right there is all of your

1682
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,559
funds that are not

1683
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,240
» Right. So, it's a library levy. This is

1684
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:54,400
just the city stuff though,

1685
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,119
» Correct? The library falls under general

1686
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,280
fund.

1687
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:58,960
» This is general I mean this

1688
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,799
» Where's the general fund on here then?

1689
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,359
» It's not because there's two separate

1690
01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:05,440
sheets. So you have your non- ley funds

1691
01:07:03,359 --> 01:07:08,799
which is like the funds that are only

1692
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,200
sustained by what is that the big one.

1693
01:07:08,799 --> 01:07:12,400
» Okay.

1694
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,200
» The other one is the nonederal

1695
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:18,000
funds.

1696
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:19,839
» Oh so yeah they are the income then

1697
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,520
» Yes. So like the library what they get

1698
01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:24,880
from the county is in the non- tax

1699
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:27,280
revenue. Okay. So I apologize then.

1700
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,240
Okay. So so we don't have that itemized

1701
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,319
out.

1702
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:33,039
» Okay. Perfect. Okay. Thank you.

1703
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:35,599
» It is it does show on the revenues on

1704
01:07:33,039 --> 01:07:38,079
the other sheets the all the

1705
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:40,319
» Right. Yeah because we do have expenses

1706
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:42,960
and revenues here

1707
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:44,480
itemized. So yeah. So

1708
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,680
» You were just assuming what this was

1709
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,039
summarizing.

1710
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:51,280
» I apologize. Yes. Okay. So yes, so these

1711
01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:53,599
are non-levied funds. I apologize. So um

1712
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,119
and this is revenue coming in. Um and

1713
01:07:53,599 --> 01:07:57,520
you'll also notice building code

1714
01:07:55,119 --> 01:08:00,880
enforcement. They all of those are the

1715
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:02,880
building code fees. Um those most of

1716
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,680
these are what we call enterprise funds.

1717
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:09,039
Their income can only be used for that

1718
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:11,280
department. Um specifically um you know

1719
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:14,880
that would be building codes, water,

1720
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:17,759
sewer, solid waste, recycling. Um, you

1721
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:19,279
know, we don't co-mingle those at all.

1722
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:20,799
» We're we're allowed to put money into

1723
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,199
them, but money does not come out,

1724
01:08:20,799 --> 01:08:22,640
» Right?

1725
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:24,080
» And we don't put money in because we

1726
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,319
don't have money to put in.

1727
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:29,679
» You can do transfers from fund like

1728
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:31,440
inter inner fund transfers and stuff,

1729
01:08:29,679 --> 01:08:32,560
but they have to be budgeted just like

1730
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:34,080
we did with

1731
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,480
» Storm water. Um,

1732
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,279
» Right.

1733
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:40,159
» I think they we transferred money from

1734
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:42,239
storm water last year into the EDA to

1735
01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:43,759
help with that project.

1736
01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:44,159
» Okay. So that's kind of

1737
01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:45,759
» Okay.

1738
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:47,199
» But that was that was within the scopes

1739
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:47,920
of what that was could be used for

1740
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:48,880
specifically,

1741
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,600
» Right? Okay.

1742
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,319
» But but but but your your water bill

1743
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,239
money cannot be used to help pay for

1744
01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:59,520
fire or anything else,

1745
01:08:56,239 --> 01:09:03,679
» Right? So anyway, so those are all kind

1746
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:07,359
of um laid out there. If anybody has any

1747
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:10,400
questions, let us know. Um go ahead.

1748
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:12,560
» Um the disaster emergency fund and the

1749
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,359
non-money fund. Okay. Where does that

1750
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,279
come from?

1751
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:18,400
» That's FEMA money. So that will be the

1752
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:21,600
bank stabilization. Okay. So that that's

1753
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:24,159
coming from like dees and the money that

1754
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,080
comes in for there. So that's your tag

1755
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:26,960
for for that. It's just called a

1756
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:27,440
disaster fund.

1757
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,120
» Yeah.

1758
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:31,679
» Okay. I didn't know if it was able to be

1759
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:35,199
used for anything else like the

1760
01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:38,159
» No, no, it has to be the the expenses

1761
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:40,480
for that stuff is paid out of there and

1762
01:09:38,159 --> 01:09:42,239
then when we get reimbursement, we have

1763
01:09:40,480 --> 01:09:43,839
to file for reimbursement. Okay.

1764
01:09:42,239 --> 01:09:45,520
» It goes back.

1765
01:09:43,839 --> 01:09:48,799
» Yeah. Do we have

1766
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:52,319
» Go ahead. No. Oh, do do we have what's

1767
01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:54,560
our other disaster emergency fund for

1768
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:56,320
community use? Do we have anything?

1769
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,800
» No, that was created when the flood

1770
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,400
happened.

1771
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:00,480
» Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

1772
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,880
» So, so the part of the the budget that

1773
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:03,920
we get a lot of say in, which is why

1774
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,080
that's where a lot of the conversation

1775
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,640
in the budget meetings have to do have

1776
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,840
to do with that those those tax revenues

1777
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,679
come from the department because that's

1778
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,320
the money that we can use for

1779
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:16,239
» Other things at at our as we direct.

1780
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,159
» Okay. Thank you. And and you'll notice

1781
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:20,320
that a lot of the a couple of these

1782
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:23,280
funds don't have any income going into

1783
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:25,199
them because they're we're just saying,

1784
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,440
you know, we have this fund set aside,

1785
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:28,560
but we there's no more money going into

1786
01:10:27,440 --> 01:10:31,920
it. So,

1787
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:34,400
» So you just cash

1788
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:37,280
which I'll mention to you the cash. So

1789
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:39,679
these the spreadsheets will change

1790
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,360
before the final budget in two weeks

1791
01:10:39,679 --> 01:10:44,800
because the cash available because some

1792
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:47,760
of those claims you guys approved

1793
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:49,920
came out of June last year. So that will

1794
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,880
affect that cash available because you

1795
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,760
have to take it

1796
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:55,520
» Out of and I am still continuing to to

1797
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,840
work with department heads and review

1798
01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:00,960
budget. So, like I said, this is this is

1799
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,880
where we are now, but I anticipate I I

1800
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,560
will I will bet a whole dollar and those

1801
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,239
of you don't I don't go over it. I will

1802
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,640
bet a dollar this will absolutely be

1803
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:10,159
different in two weeks, but we'll also

1804
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,880
be able to explain it.

1805
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,320
» Not a huge change.

1806
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,400
» No, it's not going to be significant.

1807
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:16,159
We're not going to pull any surprises.

1808
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,920
» We're we're we're we're trying to seep

1809
01:11:16,159 --> 01:11:18,719
out what's what's available to the

1810
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,120
public. Yes.

1811
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:24,080
» Um but but we continue to monitor and

1812
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:27,280
edit it. So on the next part of the

1813
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:29,840
budget, the first um is the revenue and

1814
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:33,920
we did not have this at our last meeting

1815
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:35,600
and this because we do now know

1816
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,880
» Expenditures before revenue just so you

1817
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,679
know in the packet. So you might have

1818
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,080
rearranged yours.

1819
01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:41,679
» I might have

1820
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,320
but there's two sections expenditures

1821
01:11:41,679 --> 01:11:44,719
and revenues.

1822
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:47,840
» Yes. So the expenditures and we'll do

1823
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:49,360
expenditures first. That's fine. Um I

1824
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,080
don't think much has changed since our

1825
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:55,120
last budget. So, um it since the last

1826
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:58,719
time it was in the packet, um the only

1827
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:01,760
thing that may is the fire department

1828
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:03,920
correct taking it once that is settled.

1829
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,360
» We we we we've got that pretty close to

1830
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,920
what set. There's still a discussion

1831
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:11,440
about whether um it's 240 or whether

1832
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:15,360
it's 240 plus 2.9%. That discussion. So,

1833
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:18,159
yeah, I I I hear you.

1834
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:20,800
Um and then um the other would be the

1835
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:23,360
the 10% out of the resort tax,

1836
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:28,320
» Which I did look at that after meeting

1837
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:31,120
yesterday. So it would be 149,000

1838
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:33,040
um instead of 147. So that's

1839
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,760
» That like there's going to be some small

1840
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:37,679
changes here. There there's there's and

1841
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:40,239
again that's just because we are we are

1842
01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:41,920
making sure that the numbers are all and

1843
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:44,560
and and it's worth mentioning that

1844
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,800
sometimes in fact every year there is

1845
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:50,960
some post-budget activity that's needing

1846
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:52,320
that is a that is a a a budget what's

1847
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,960
the word I'm looking for

1848
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,080
» Adjustment

1849
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,640
» Audit

1850
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:58,000
» A budget amendment that also comes to

1851
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:00,400
council

1852
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:03,280
» To to to shift things from around so

1853
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:05,199
» And and like we said last time um the

1854
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:07,760
first thing I always look for is if

1855
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:09,760
there's any changes over last year that

1856
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,480
that percent in that last column, you

1857
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:14,159
know, it's if it's 100% of last time,

1858
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:15,280
then it's the same. There's no increase

1859
01:13:14,159 --> 01:13:16,960
in it.

1860
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,960
» So, it's always worth noting, you know,

1861
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:21,120
if all of a sudden it's 500% higher,

1862
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:23,760
it's like why what are we doing? You

1863
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,080
know, then we ask questions. But you are

1864
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:29,360
welcome to please review it line by

1865
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:32,159
line. Each page um is a different fund.

1866
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:34,560
Um not each page, but each section

1867
01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:37,280
there. The first one is the general fund

1868
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:39,840
and it lists everything um that's paid

1869
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:45,520
out of the general fund and that takes

1870
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:48,239
up it looks like four five six seven

1871
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,840
pages of general fund. So there's a lot

1872
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:53,440
of money that that comes out of that

1873
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:56,239
general fund. Um and um but there's a

1874
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:58,880
lot more um money that goes into the

1875
01:13:56,239 --> 01:14:00,640
general fund rather than just our

1876
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:01,360
property taxes that we collect.

1877
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,640
» Fortunately.

1878
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:06,960
» Fortunately. Yes, unfortunately. So, um

1879
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,159
you know that please review that so you

1880
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,640
understand it. If you have any

1881
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:13,440
questions, um be sure to let me know or

1882
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:16,080
anyone on admin and finance. Next is

1883
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:18,400
urban renewal tiff district. Um as I

1884
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:21,520
said, there's been no money spent out of

1885
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:23,360
that, but it does show their um you know

1886
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:25,520
that they're budgeting I guess the full

1887
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,320
amount that's in there in case someone

1888
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,520
is that right?

1889
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,199
» The only thing we're studying out of

1890
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,080
there is the software that the county

1891
01:14:29,199 --> 01:14:31,840
uses.

1892
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,360
» Okay. That's what we have to pay for.

1893
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:37,120
» And and I think there was actually some

1894
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,960
trip they paid some expenses I think for

1895
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,679
for the the conference that they had out

1896
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,120
there. Okay. I remember there being a

1897
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:44,560
discussion about doing that and and

1898
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,760
getting a determination that it could be

1899
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,280
but if they haven't turned in receipts

1900
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,080
then it didn't get done for the

1901
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:48,640
software.

1902
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,120
» Yeah.

1903
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,280
» So um but we are this is the expense

1904
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:56,320
side of it. Our preliminary budget is

1905
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,760
the entire budget in case we need to in

1906
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,679
case a project comes up.

1907
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,679
» Yes. It doesn't mean that we're going to

1908
01:14:59,679 --> 01:15:02,560
spend 614,000.

1909
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:03,679
It just means that

1910
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,159
» That's how much is in the savings

1911
01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:06,960
account.

1912
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:08,880
» Yeah. But we do budget for I mean this

1913
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,920
is saying it's budgeted in case we want

1914
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:14,560
to use it.

1915
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:17,920
» Okay. Um resort tax. Um this is very

1916
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:19,840
similar to what was

1917
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:21,600
um presented by the resort tax

1918
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:25,040
committee. Did you make any changes to

1919
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:27,679
it compared to that? So that that's all

1920
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:32,480
there. Um

1921
01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:34,320
and then we have the insurance

1922
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,199
comprehensive insurance liability

1923
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,960
insurance

1924
01:15:35,199 --> 01:15:41,120
» Which includes um our property insurance

1925
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,760
and our liability insurance. So that's

1926
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,480
the combination

1927
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,280
» That's what we pay pretty much.

1928
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:47,520
though.

1929
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:49,440
» I'm sorry. That's county.

1930
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:52,560
» Sorry, wrong one.

1931
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:56,080
» Okay. So, okay. And then, um, we have

1932
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:58,800
the library. Here is their expenses that

1933
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,560
we, um, it looks like

1934
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,159
» That's their separate fund.

1935
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,360
» Okay.

1936
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:06,320
And so, that's not what we give the

1937
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,040
library. Is this

1938
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:12,800
» No, that's a whole separate fund that

1939
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:14,159
it's a um they created a long time ago,

1940
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,880
but it's strictly for

1941
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:16,560
» Okay.

1942
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:20,960
» Certain library services.

1943
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:24,960
» Okay. So, and then we have disaster,

1944
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:27,040
it says. Um and that's where the repair

1945
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,000
and maintenance bank stabilization is

1946
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,640
at.

1947
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,120
» Yep.

1948
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:32,000
» Okay. Sorry, I'll try to hurry up. group

1949
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,560
health insurance.

1950
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:37,440
» And and by the way, this this budget is

1951
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,960
available just inside the door. Um as

1952
01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:40,960
well as being online electronically in

1953
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,800
the packet, there's a hard copy here. Um

1954
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,480
and the public is welcome to stop by the

1955
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,640
chat and go through line by line.

1956
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:48,560
» Yes, please. So, it's it's all here. If

1957
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,840
you have any questions, I don't really

1958
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,880
want to read through it line by line,

1959
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,120
but we will if we need to.

1960
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,880
» I have an idea.

1961
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,840
» This is what I do because I don't

1962
01:16:54,880 --> 01:17:01,600
understand this. I go to YouTube and

1963
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:03,920
they're wonderful people making

1964
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:05,679
vid videos to explain every one of

1965
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,000
because every municipality in this world

1966
01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:10,960
is doing what we're doing and they are

1967
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:12,880
very helpful to me because

1968
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,960
» Sometimes they even make me laugh. But

1969
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,719
I'm just saying there if you have if

1970
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:19,280
you're get hung up on something go to

1971
01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:20,800
YouTube and AI is very patient with me.

1972
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,440
» Yes.

1973
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:26,000
Uh I just wanted to make a note that one

1974
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:28,320
thing that's worth noting is some things

1975
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:31,280
are paid out of multiple funds.

1976
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,159
» So you may see additional line items

1977
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,280
where

1978
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:35,040
» 80%

1979
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:38,719
» Yeah. And that I just think is very

1980
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:40,480
valuable to note that you know there's

1981
01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:41,520
some things that are being paid out

1982
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:43,440
additional places.

1983
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,600
» AB absolutely and and that's especially

1984
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:47,920
true with um salaries.

1985
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:50,400
» Yeah. Yep. So not the police department,

1986
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,440
police is the police, but definitely

1987
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,679
» Caps the caps.

1988
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:56,080
» I tried to note pretty much all of the

1989
01:17:53,679 --> 01:17:57,360
like the things that are separated the

1990
01:17:56,080 --> 01:18:00,400
percentage of

1991
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:02,640
» And and just to just to reiterate um a

1992
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,159
point that that uh committee chair

1993
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,719
Ronnie made earlier. If you go through

1994
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:08,719
this line by line um and have something

1995
01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:10,320
you have a question about or a change or

1996
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:12,800
a recommendation or some something you

1997
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:14,480
just want to understand, please identify

1998
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,320
that within the next week so that we

1999
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:17,920
have a time to do it. that that when

2000
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,480
when when we're passing it at this time,

2001
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,679
it's not not a time to be reinventing.

2002
01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:23,840
» Um, so,

2003
01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:26,080
» Right. And then the next section is the

2004
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:28,560
revenue. And once again, it just goes by

2005
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:31,280
section by section. So, if it's easier

2006
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,040
for you to take and, you know, put put

2007
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,880
the general fund by the general fund.

2008
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:38,080
You can see the revenue coming in versus

2009
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:41,280
what we're spending to spend. But that's

2010
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,400
also where the spreadsheet comes in, you

2011
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:45,040
know, the summary of it,

2012
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:47,840
» The summary. So, and then our resolution

2013
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:50,000
will be a summary of that. So, that

2014
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,440
that's how it's broken down. Um, but is

2015
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,120
there any other questions, guys? I don't

2016
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:55,760
really want to go all through the

2017
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:58,159
revenue side, please.

2018
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,239
» Unless you want to be here till 10:00.

2019
01:18:58,159 --> 01:19:00,960
» No. All right.

2020
01:19:00,239 --> 01:19:03,840
» All right. Thank you.

2021
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:06,239
» And and by the way, I would I love I by

2022
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:07,360
all indications, sound is working, video

2023
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:08,560
is working. So, if you have anybody who

2024
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,159
reaches out and have questions about the

2025
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,320
budget, I think this has been a fairly

2026
01:19:10,159 --> 01:19:13,360
good discussion on it. And so folks are

2027
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:13,840
welcome to review that.

2028
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,120
» Yes.

2029
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,880
» All right. Your next item.

2030
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:20,239
» Oh, my next item. Okay. City

2031
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,880
administrator position update on that

2032
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:23,360
please.

2033
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:27,679
» Oh, that so so we have signed the

2034
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:30,480
agreement with Proffman. Um they will be

2035
01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:35,760
coming to the they will be attending via

2036
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:39,280
Zoom um the uh admin meeting in a couple

2037
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:42,080
of weeks. Um, prior to that point in

2038
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:45,679
time, they are actually reaching out and

2039
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:48,239
conducting interviews um with with some

2040
01:19:45,679 --> 01:19:52,080
council members, with some staff, um

2041
01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:54,719
with some community members as we refine

2042
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:56,400
um that job description. Uh when we're

2043
01:19:54,719 --> 01:19:58,320
done, basically council's going to sign

2044
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,600
off and define what that job position

2045
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,679
looks like and what its rules and

2046
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:04,320
parameters are. Um which is why they'll

2047
01:20:01,679 --> 01:20:08,000
be coming back in in a couple of weeks.

2048
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:09,679
Um so that process has started and they

2049
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,800
have a map. I don't have it but it it's

2050
01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:16,159
like November. Um but by the time that

2051
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:19,760
process is complete and and if we don't

2052
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:21,520
find a suitable candidate we will start

2053
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,600
over. We will we will revisit that's

2054
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:25,840
part of our contract uh to go through

2055
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:28,880
and you know you don't plan for failure

2056
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:30,480
but um if you hire the wrong person

2057
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:33,520
that's planning for failure. So we won't

2058
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:34,880
do that. Anything

2059
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,520
else you wanted on that?

2060
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:40,239
» Quite um what was the timeline that we

2061
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:42,480
had set for initial review

2062
01:20:40,239 --> 01:20:44,960
um to hire somebody or this whole

2063
01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:46,960
process the interview with staff and

2064
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:48,560
» I I don't have that that whole timeline

2065
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,920
with me. I'm happy to give it to you but

2066
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:53,040
but we will the the initial is in two

2067
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,960
weeks they're going to come back with a

2068
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,480
draft of the job description

2069
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,320
» And so that's that's that's that's what

2070
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:59,360
the admin they they'll bring it back at

2071
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,280
that point in time.

2072
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,199
» Okay. Is the goal like to have a city

2073
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,120
administrator within a year or

2074
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:06,320
» Oh, by the end of the year. By the end

2075
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,920
of the year to have a city

2076
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,199
administrator. Yeah, that that's the

2077
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,880
November I was talking about.

2078
01:21:09,199 --> 01:21:12,239
» Okay. By the end of this calendar year.

2079
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,520
By Novemberish.

2080
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:17,880
» Thank you.

2081
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,880
» I have a friend behind you.

2082
01:21:18,719 --> 01:21:22,880
» All right. Any other questions on that?

2083
01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:25,120
» Committee chair.

2084
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:28,480
» Okay. Um and then next we had um rural

2085
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:31,120
fire department contract. Um, for the

2086
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:33,120
mayor, it is still being worked on.

2087
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,719
» That's that's the attorneys working

2088
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,280
together on that basically.

2089
01:21:34,719 --> 01:21:39,760
» Okay. And and just for clarification on

2090
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:41,520
the budget, is it budgeted at the 28

2091
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:45,199
mills currently and then No,

2092
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:46,480
» It is it is budgeted on 240 and and 10%.

2093
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:47,679
Okay. Perfect. Okay. So,

2094
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:48,960
» And that that's what Lonnie was

2095
01:21:47,679 --> 01:21:50,960
referring to earlier. One of those

2096
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,040
numbers changed slightly from that.

2097
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:55,199
» Council member Tupin. So, if this

2098
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:57,440
contract isn't finalized by the time we

2099
01:21:55,199 --> 01:22:00,480
have to approve this, we

2100
01:21:57,440 --> 01:22:02,159
» We can still approve the budget and and

2101
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:03,360
but hopefully we don't end up having to

2102
01:22:02,159 --> 01:22:05,360
go through a massive budget amendment,

2103
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,400
but it is my goal that we will have it

2104
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,840
next time. Okay?

2105
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,920
» And it's worth me I mean, we've talked

2106
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:12,239
about it and we've viewed it, but my

2107
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:14,560
goal is it'll actually be on the agenda

2108
01:22:12,239 --> 01:22:16,159
next time with a funky little X on it.

2109
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,760
And if we do that, we'll do that before

2110
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:19,440
the budget just so we all sleep better.

2111
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:23,120
Is there a way that we can have the

2112
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:24,800
preliminary contract out that we're not

2113
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:27,520
getting it with the asterisks?

2114
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:29,040
» You you Well,

2115
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:31,440
» Well, it's going to be you you have the

2116
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,239
preliminary. It's been multiple times.

2117
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:34,639
» We changed much.

2118
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:36,480
» It it has not changed much, but but what

2119
01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:40,639
what is so there's two things that we

2120
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:42,800
need in order to be done. One is

2121
01:22:40,639 --> 01:22:46,400
» A legal opinion that says yes, we can

2122
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:49,600
use this for emergency services. And

2123
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:52,560
then what does the contract need to say

2124
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,800
for that legal opinion to exist?

2125
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:57,199
» So that that's that's what the attorneys

2126
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,639
are working through.

2127
01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:01,600
» I'm sorry. It's it's the existing

2128
01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:04,159
contract. We're amending the contract.

2129
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:07,679
» All we're doing is changing it from 28

2130
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:09,520
mills to 240,000 out of general fund and

2131
01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:12,080
10% of last year's resort.

2132
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:16,560
» My big concern is we don't have a draft

2133
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:18,480
budget for if this doesn't go through.

2134
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:21,760
And even though we did request that

2135
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:24,159
several weeks ago, we I remember

2136
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,040
specifically asking for two different

2137
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:28,000
versions.

2138
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:29,440
» We had the version last week up until

2139
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,760
this is the first one that includes the

2140
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:34,080
240. Yeah, the last one is based on the

2141
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:36,560
28 ms. This is the first version of the

2142
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:39,280
budget that doesn't have the 28 ms. So

2143
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,000
if you go back one time, that's based on

2144
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:41,600
28.

2145
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,400
» I did not know what the value of the

2146
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,239
mill would be.

2147
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:46,080
» Right? That's my big concern is I just

2148
01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:48,239
don't want to be getting a last minute

2149
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,480
» And I can plug in different numbers.

2150
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:52,960
Yeah. I mean it I can

2151
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:53,440
» General fund based on the 28 mill.

2152
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,679
» Okay.

2153
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:58,480
» And all the numbers I it's

2154
01:23:55,679 --> 01:23:59,840
» Okay. So it's it is doable and that

2155
01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:02,080
again that's my big concern because I

2156
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,760
know it's just a lot and it's a big

2157
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,280
difference in price. But I guess it's

2158
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,639
not that big of a difference. We would

2159
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,239
» It's a difference of where it comes from

2160
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:10,000
more so than anything. It's about a

2161
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:11,600
$30,000 difference I think is what we

2162
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,199
figured out.

2163
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:16,560
» Was it or 23

2164
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:18,400
» Where we so it as far as the current 240

2165
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:20,560
to the 28 mil.

2166
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,400
» Well, so in the in No, no, no. Not in

2167
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,800
the general fund, it's higher, but but

2168
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:26,560
in the overall budget, it's within

2169
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,080
» It's $22,000 difference

2170
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:31,679
» And I think it's now 20.

2171
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:35,360
» So So So if they were to get 28 million

2172
01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:37,760
409,000. So the way that it's currently

2173
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:41,840
budgeted is 240 out of general and then

2174
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:45,600
149 out of the tax. So it would be a

2175
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:47,760
total of three.

2176
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,040
» So we'd be taking other things out of

2177
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:50,480
resort tax.

2178
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,480
» So it'd be 240

2179
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:52,800
» To cover the general fund.

2180
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:54,880
» No,

2181
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,600
» No, no, no. We would adjust the general

2182
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,120
fund

2183
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,320
» By the limits of what we had in the

2184
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,120
general fund to do.

2185
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:02,600
» Okay.

2186
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:02,600
» So it's 24049.

2187
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:07,600
» So that's 389,000

2188
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,719
and is what we would be paying them with

2189
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:10,960
the new content. Yeah.

2190
01:25:08,719 --> 01:25:14,639
» 20,000 less.

2191
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:16,239
than the 28 mill.

2192
01:25:14,639 --> 01:25:17,280
» Council member Rude,

2193
01:25:16,239 --> 01:25:18,400
» I am curious.

2194
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:22,239
» Okay.

2195
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:25,600
» Who is representing the fire department?

2196
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:26,400
» Um, their attorney is Ray Huns,

2197
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,960
» Of course.

2198
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,400
» And their fire chief is And actually, so

2199
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:31,120
they have a board that they're going to

2200
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,480
as well.

2201
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:35,120
» A board of lawyers.

2202
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:35,760
» No, no, they have a board.

2203
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,840
» No, they have.

2204
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:40,080
» So, the Rayco is representing his

2205
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,440
brother. That is a true Ray Coons

2206
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,960
represents the fire department. He is

2207
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:44,719
who they have hired as their attorney.

2208
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:46,080
» Another something for me to look up next

2209
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:47,360
week this week. Okay.

2210
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,400
» Oh, good. I was hope I was afraid you

2211
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:48,800
were not going to have anything to look

2212
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,199
up.

2213
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,239
» Oh, I got stuff to look up. I've got

2214
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:54,000
more about that later.

2215
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:56,639
» And and I know that every time we we've

2216
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:59,280
tal when Tom has come to these meetings,

2217
01:25:56,639 --> 01:26:00,880
he's he said this is what I personally

2218
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:04,480
would like, but he's like I haven't

2219
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:06,080
board to answer to. So So

2220
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:08,000
» That's that was my understanding.

2221
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:09,120
Everything has to be approved by their

2222
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,560
board.

2223
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,159
» Your your your point that we live in

2224
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,920
assault to you and everybody knows

2225
01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:16,080
everybody or is related to everybody is

2226
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,400
well taken.

2227
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,840
» So,

2228
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,679
» Okay. All right. All I have

2229
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:23,679
» Council council member Davis.

2230
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:26,639
» Um will someone besides myself be at the

2231
01:26:23,679 --> 01:26:28,320
rural fire district to talk about this

2232
01:26:26,639 --> 01:26:30,480
agreement or we just waiting for the

2233
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,320
lawyers to come to the table?

2234
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:33,920
» At at this point it's minor edits and

2235
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,320
we're waiting for the attorneys to to

2236
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,920
finish it. you you don't have to talk

2237
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:39,920
you don't have to talk about it

2238
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,360
» And and and my so my understanding is

2239
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,960
their board has actually already

2240
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,880
approved their budget okay

2241
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,719
» Based on the agreement okay so the

2242
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,560
amounts what's what's changing in the

2243
01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:49,600
agreement is not the amounts or anything

2244
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:52,320
like that what's changing in the

2245
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:54,080
agreement is the paper tracking system

2246
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:55,199
that works for both the city and for the

2247
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,920
fire district okay

2248
01:26:55,199 --> 01:27:00,800
» That's what's currently under discussion

2249
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,920
» Is how do they track capital assets I

2250
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,760
just want to be prepared if they have

2251
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,679
questions and I do not feel comfortable

2252
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,639
» Oh no You you you you you won't you

2253
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:07,600
won't need to answer those questions.

2254
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:09,120
» Okay. Thank you.

2255
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,800
» You'll get to witness them answering.

2256
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:12,480
» Okay. We need to keep going cuz we got

2257
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,080
to get out of here. Well, we got a

2258
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:16,320
meeting to do here because we put it all

2259
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:18,239
off last year. So,

2260
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,000
» Um like and it's kind of important stuff

2261
01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:20,400
because we didn't talk about it last

2262
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,800
year.

2263
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,639
» A lot of superficial stuff going on.

2264
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:27,120
» Okay.

2265
01:27:24,639 --> 01:27:28,320
» Okay. Um so, are we are we good with the

2266
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,320
are we done with the fire?

2267
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:31,679
» Yeah. I think I said that when when we

2268
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,280
get that done, we'll bring it back and

2269
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:35,520
as quickly as I get it, I will send it

2270
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:38,800
out so that council has a chance to look

2271
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:40,960
at it. But but again, the it may be that

2272
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:43,120
there's zero edits to that contract or

2273
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,560
maybe that there are edits added to the

2274
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,600
contract for the tracking purposes.

2275
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:50,159
» Okay. All right. So, lo and behold, we

2276
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,760
have the airport interlocal agreement on

2277
01:27:50,159 --> 01:27:56,320
um

2278
01:27:51,760 --> 01:28:00,080
on the agenda. Um, we have met, um,

2279
01:27:56,320 --> 01:28:01,760
Jeremy and I met with, uh, Mike Naples

2280
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:04,239
and the county commissioner, Bill

2281
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:07,120
Bullock. Um, we had some suggestions.

2282
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:09,760
Some of them didn't really work. Um, I

2283
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:13,120
went to the airport board meeting um,

2284
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:15,840
with, um, the council president from

2285
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:17,600
Bridger was there, Mark Duter, um,

2286
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,480
trying to get find out what Bridger's

2287
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:22,719
concerns were with approving it. Um, I

2288
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:25,120
think we've got that um, ironed out and

2289
01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:27,280
settled. I will say that when you're

2290
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:29,120
reading through this document, there is

2291
01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:31,040
an error on this one that got put in the

2292
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:33,760
packet. That's not the one that we've

2293
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:36,000
been using. Um, the main error is that

2294
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,679
the city will not be putting in um, an

2295
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:41,040
additional 10,000 that has been

2296
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:43,679
stricken. Um, it will just be our one

2297
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:45,199
mill that we it's one mill from the US,

2298
01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:45,920
one mill from the county, and one mill

2299
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:48,239
from the jerk.

2300
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:50,400
» And just to clarify, it's equal share.

2301
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:52,560
So if the county pulls a half a mill,

2302
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:54,080
then we put in half. Correct. So So we

2303
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,679
we match an equal share

2304
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:58,080
» And and that's why we have not been

2305
01:28:55,679 --> 01:28:59,280
paying a mill over the last couple years

2306
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:01,280
because the county has not been

2307
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,960
contributing a whole mill. So that's why

2308
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:08,159
if you ever look at that question it

2309
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:12,800
like I did. Um, so with this, um, back

2310
01:29:08,159 --> 01:29:16,320
in when I was on council with, um, Jen

2311
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:18,159
Battles and Terry Durban, we worked out

2312
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:20,239
the majority of this interlocal

2313
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:22,800
agreement and it had been approved by

2314
01:29:20,239 --> 01:29:25,040
that council. It had never been signed

2315
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,320
off on by the county commissioners. So,

2316
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:30,719
we've been working under the old

2317
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:34,239
agreement this entire time. Um, so I am

2318
01:29:30,719 --> 01:29:37,920
very hopefully thankful that um

2319
01:29:34,239 --> 01:29:41,280
hopefully they will sign this um

2320
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:43,440
the it does have what council wanted um

2321
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:46,480
the equal representation on the board of

2322
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:49,120
33 and three. Um it has that we will get

2323
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:51,679
a copy of the budget. Um and the

2324
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,199
county's best date to have that is uh is

2325
01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:55,440
in September because they're like us.

2326
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:58,320
They don't get their budget done until

2327
01:29:55,440 --> 01:30:02,960
then. Um, it also has that the

2328
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:05,440
dissolution of the board must go to um

2329
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,880
that body like county commissioners,

2330
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:09,440
they would have to vote on it and say

2331
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,800
they want out. Um, if Red Lodge wants

2332
01:30:09,440 --> 01:30:12,560
out, it would have to go to the city

2333
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:15,040
council. If Bridger wants out, it would

2334
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:17,679
have to go to their city council. So,

2335
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:20,159
um, you know, not just one single person

2336
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:26,000
can say, "We're done." Um, it has to go

2337
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:28,560
to those governing bodies. Um and um

2338
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:31,760
what oh and the other thing that we kind

2339
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:34,639
of hashed out at that meeting was um we

2340
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:37,679
will have a list of those assets that

2341
01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:40,000
are jointly held um so that if there is

2342
01:30:37,679 --> 01:30:42,560
a ter and it'll be updated every year so

2343
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:45,199
that if there is a termination

2344
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,880
each entity will know exactly what they

2345
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:48,960
have to pay to get out of the agreement.

2346
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:53,600
So we don't get a bill for you know $5

2347
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:56,000
million. Um and it's so and it has to be

2348
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:58,400
um you know actual you know what they

2349
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:02,080
what they paid or what they have into it

2350
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:04,320
not some blown up number. I don't know

2351
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,760
how else to explain that.

2352
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,960
» So um Jeremy do you have any more

2353
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,320
comments on that because you worked on

2354
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,920
it with me as well.

2355
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:14,560
» Um the only modification was didn't

2356
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:15,120
Bridger ask if they could send a proxy

2357
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:17,440
as

2358
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,239
» And that's actually added in the that's

2359
01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:19,360
in the line four.

2360
01:31:18,239 --> 01:31:21,280
» Yeah. And I forgot about that. And

2361
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:23,280
that's mainly becau and and also because

2362
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:26,000
we said up to three. They were kind of

2363
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:27,920
worried that they might not get three

2364
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:30,000
people able to go all the time to the

2365
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:32,080
meeting. So they would have three

2366
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,679
appointed, but if one of them could, you

2367
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,040
know, they could do a proxy vote if

2368
01:31:33,679 --> 01:31:36,880
necessary. So

2369
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:38,960
» And a quorum does have to consist of at

2370
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:41,120
least one person from each.

2371
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:43,040
» Correct. Yeah. So that's good. So you

2372
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:46,800
always get that equal representation

2373
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:49,199
type of thing. So, we are hopeful that

2374
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:52,159
um we will have this up for a vote soon.

2375
01:31:49,199 --> 01:31:52,880
Um county, it's next week. I mean, next

2376
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:54,159
meeting.

2377
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,440
» It could be the next meeting with the

2378
01:31:54,159 --> 01:31:57,360
with that correction in there.

2379
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:59,040
» Yeah. If everyone's okay to vote on

2380
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:02,080
this, anybody have any questions on

2381
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:05,199
this? Um it's been a long time coming.

2382
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:08,239
Really, you know, I'm very hopeful that

2383
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:10,159
hope fingers crossed that I

2384
01:32:08,239 --> 01:32:12,400
» I'm a little concerned that Mr. Bullock

2385
01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:14,159
said at least we'll have a visual proof

2386
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:17,600
that we're working on this. didn't seem

2387
01:32:14,159 --> 01:32:19,600
very sincere. I mean, it looks makes it

2388
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:22,800
look like we're doing something. I mean,

2389
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,320
I I thought it was a little uh set

2390
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:26,000
aside.

2391
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:28,560
Flip it. Let's flip it to me.

2392
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:30,080
» Well, it's been going on for years.

2393
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,679
Four, five,

2394
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:34,320
» Five, three.

2395
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:36,960
» I think we want to move on.

2396
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,719
» Well, that's what I'm saying.

2397
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,000
» I will I will say that that that So,

2398
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:42,639
there was there was a couple of things

2399
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:43,920
and and I apologize that that last line.

2400
01:32:42,639 --> 01:32:45,679
So what happened is there was a version

2401
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,800
of this document we went I I went

2402
01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:48,159
through and fixed the numbering on

2403
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,239
because we had like three number ones

2404
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:52,800
and skip number two and blah blah blah

2405
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:54,880
and there was a version this this

2406
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:57,440
version that had the city of lodge will

2407
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:59,120
contribute an additional $10,000 there

2408
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:01,280
was a change that had happened after

2409
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:03,199
that basically that had come to me and I

2410
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,239
was like I'm not saying you can't pass

2411
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:07,120
that but you're going to have to pass it

2412
01:33:04,239 --> 01:33:08,800
twice that to me is was problematic um

2413
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,800
and so we got rid of that but the

2414
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:12,480
biggest the biggest dispute is still

2415
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:16,719
over that representation I think the

2416
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:18,560
county still wants um 32 and two. Um the

2417
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:20,400
other municipality, as near as I can

2418
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:23,040
tell, is on board with with with the 3,

2419
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:24,960
three, and three. And I think all three

2420
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:27,280
all three municipalities are trying to

2421
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:29,600
get this passed in the near future, but

2422
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:31,760
I said this we we always bring things

2423
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,480
for a discussion before they're up for

2424
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:35,360
action. So,

2425
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:36,960
» And in a 322 situation, who would break

2426
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:40,320
the tie?

2427
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:42,480
» Well, it's a board of ex members. So in

2428
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,760
the 322 there were three county

2429
01:33:42,480 --> 01:33:44,480
commissioners and two from each

2430
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,480
municipality.

2431
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:47,040
» So that's seven. So there would be no

2432
01:33:46,480 --> 01:33:48,480
tie break.

2433
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,960
» 322.

2434
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:49,760
» Yeah.

2435
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,239
» Is seven.

2436
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:55,600
» Oh god. Add up to eight. Okay. Got it.

2437
01:33:52,239 --> 01:33:57,120
» I'm tired. Just go. I'm sorry.

2438
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:59,040
» So what we're going to we'll be voting

2439
01:33:57,120 --> 01:34:00,719
on it then at our next city council

2440
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:03,280
meeting if everyone's okay with that.

2441
01:34:00,719 --> 01:34:05,600
And um if we pass it, Bridger passes it,

2442
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:07,360
you know, maybe that'll be enough for

2443
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:09,920
the county to say we're okay and pass

2444
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:11,840
it. Fingers crossed.

2445
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:13,280
And that's all I have unless uh Jeremy

2446
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,960
or Chelsea have anything.

2447
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:16,560
» Cause for celebration.

2448
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,440
» I think it's a good agreement.

2449
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,920
» Thank you.

2450
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:22,159
» Good luck.

2451
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,880
» All right. Anything else from admin and

2452
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,000
finance?

2453
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:28,159
» No.

2454
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:32,159
» Anything for admin and finance?

2455
01:34:28,159 --> 01:34:35,360
» All right. Hearing none. Um let's go

2456
01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:38,639
next to land use and planning. And with

2457
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:40,080
that, we will go to committee chair

2458
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:41,920
Tupin.

2459
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:45,120
» Hi everybody.

2460
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:48,960
Um, sorry I figured that just an

2461
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:51,280
introduction. Um, so this first off the

2462
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:55,360
U tennis or not the tennis, we'll get to

2463
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:57,840
that next. Uh, the O'Neal Trail. Um,

2464
01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:00,719
right now Mike Maples is in the process

2465
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:04,239
of getting all of the additional

2466
01:35:00,719 --> 01:35:06,400
reporting done and engineering,

2467
01:35:04,239 --> 01:35:07,040
sustainability. There's three specific

2468
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,440
reports.

2469
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:12,639
» Engineering,

2470
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:16,320
» Um, environmental

2471
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:18,159
» Thank you. Um, so getting those done.

2472
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:20,880
Uh, been having some issues with the

2473
01:35:18,159 --> 01:35:24,719
flags, but been putting those in. the

2474
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:26,239
bench has gone in and then once there is

2475
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:27,920
um

2476
01:35:26,239 --> 01:35:30,080
all those reports back we will be

2477
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:32,239
getting a staff report for review here

2478
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:34,400
at council for the final approval to

2479
01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:35,920
make sure and then also just making sure

2480
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:39,199
that all the conditions are met in

2481
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:43,040
thatou um that is currently what is

2482
01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:45,199
going on there then let's see next on

2483
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:48,159
the list can I say can I ask a question

2484
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:50,719
about O'Neal uh I went up there today

2485
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:54,239
and the uh despite

2486
01:35:50,719 --> 01:35:57,280
uh uh a neighbor's um request to have

2487
01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:59,600
this postponed. It has been installed

2488
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:02,400
» And I am not an artist. I am very

2489
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:04,080
rational, but um someone tell me this

2490
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:07,120
what didn't fall off the back of the

2491
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:10,639
truck. Um there is a crack right through

2492
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:13,679
here. Um but and it's sharp edges on the

2493
01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:16,080
this end, but it's there. It's been in

2494
01:36:13,679 --> 01:36:18,639
place and I think the parks board

2495
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:22,000
thought they would have a say in this.

2496
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:23,679
But um go up there and sit at it and uh

2497
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:27,440
but someone tell me if we didn't get a

2498
01:36:23,679 --> 01:36:28,400
dud from uh that fell off the back of a

2499
01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:29,920
truck.

2500
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,560
» Who picked that? Who

2501
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,040
» Arts?

2502
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,800
» I don't know.

2503
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:35,840
» I guess there's art, but I'm not an

2504
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:36,560
artist. I'm just saying it's worth going

2505
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,120
up to look at.

2506
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:41,920
» And there was there was a copy of that

2507
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:42,560
uh letter was actually handed out to

2508
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,239
» Tonight.

2509
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:46,800
» Yeah, I I don't believe it was in the

2510
01:36:44,239 --> 01:36:48,320
packet. um it was wasn't requested in

2511
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,880
there, but but like I said, we can we

2512
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,440
can put that in there. Uh

2513
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:57,520
» And to address the concerns of our

2514
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:59,280
neighbor as well as um kind of the

2515
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:02,960
process of why the bench was put in

2516
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:05,280
place before advisory board reviews and

2517
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:08,080
council approvals and all of those types

2518
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:11,280
of pieces is as we have been looking

2519
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:14,800
through and we'll get into this next uh

2520
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:17,920
the change of use of city-owned land. Uh

2521
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:22,239
we do feel that city staff is competent

2522
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:24,159
enough to make decisions for benches, uh

2523
01:37:22,239 --> 01:37:26,880
smaller placements, specifically things

2524
01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:28,560
that can be reversed. That's the biggest

2525
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:31,840
piece. And we know that it's a big

2526
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:33,440
bench, but when we asked Mike Maples his

2527
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:35,199
comfort level for being able to move it,

2528
01:37:33,440 --> 01:37:36,159
he's like, "If I need to move it, I can

2529
01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:38,560
move it."

2530
01:37:36,159 --> 01:37:40,800
» So, yep. So, specifically, we want to

2531
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:43,760
give him some benefit of the doubt and

2532
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:45,760
his placement. Um, if the parks board

2533
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,520
wants to come through and say, "We hate

2534
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:49,600
this. This is the worst. Mike Maples,

2535
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:52,960
please move it." I imagine he would be

2536
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:55,440
pretty amendable to that. Um, but again,

2537
01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:58,400
with how we have our current process in

2538
01:37:55,440 --> 01:38:00,639
place, um, one, I know that they were

2539
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:02,560
aware of the fact that there would be a

2540
01:38:00,639 --> 01:38:04,639
bench put in, so if they had feedback,

2541
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:06,639
they probably could have provided it.

2542
01:38:04,639 --> 01:38:08,480
Um, and also I know that they were aware

2543
01:38:06,639 --> 01:38:10,880
of the trail system. Again, I'm not

2544
01:38:08,480 --> 01:38:12,960
saying that maybe they were taken aback

2545
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,719
by the timing of it because I also did

2546
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:16,880
not know when it was going in. I don't

2547
01:38:14,719 --> 01:38:18,639
think many did, but again, it's not

2548
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:21,840
something that we really have up on the

2549
01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:22,560
high scale radar of this needs full

2550
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,719
approval.

2551
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:28,080
» And I will add that the process that

2552
01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:29,920
said benches down in that lower category

2553
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,440
approved actually did go through the

2554
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,679
parks board and they signed off on that

2555
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:35,360
as well. So they they said these are the

2556
01:38:33,679 --> 01:38:37,199
things that don't need to come to us,

2557
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,880
» Right? And and it does have that in the

2558
01:38:37,199 --> 01:38:41,360
application. Type a minor and

2559
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:41,920
administrative temporary or reversible

2560
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,400
projects.

2561
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:46,400
» Be that as may look at it and see if we

2562
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,760
got a bum bench that fell off the back

2563
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,960
of a truck.

2564
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,639
» Well, hopefully it's bum enough that

2565
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,400
it'll deteriorate in five years and

2566
01:38:50,639 --> 01:38:55,040
we'll never have to worry.

2567
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:56,960
» My bum

2568
01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:01,040
again. End of the day, if we feel that

2569
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:02,560
it's an atrocity to the city, then I'm

2570
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:05,520
sure that we could file some complaints

2571
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:07,280
with public works. But I I really truly

2572
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:10,159
don't feel that this isn't something

2573
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:11,280
that public works is capable of

2574
01:39:10,159 --> 01:39:13,920
handling.

2575
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:17,360
» Um at a certain point we do have to

2576
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:19,280
trust our adviserss and our our staff uh

2577
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:23,679
to do a good job and if we don't then

2578
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:26,000
that's a bigger conversation. Um okay

2579
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:29,000
onwards the next thing to piss people

2580
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,000
off

2581
01:39:29,199 --> 01:39:33,199
so specifically tennis courts. Uh I

2582
01:39:32,159 --> 01:39:34,639
don't think we're actually I think we're

2583
01:39:33,199 --> 01:39:37,840
just upsetting people with taking too

2584
01:39:34,639 --> 01:39:42,080
much time. The reverse problems. Um so

2585
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:44,239
we have received an application for the

2586
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:49,440
use of city-owned land from the tennis

2587
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:53,920
courts. We are still awaiting a um a

2588
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:55,760
staff report from Jeremy and um most all

2589
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:58,159
of the advisory work has been done. All

2590
01:39:55,760 --> 01:40:00,239
the leg work has been done. All of that

2591
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:01,679
part of the process is completed. So,

2592
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:04,000
we're just waiting for that report,

2593
01:40:01,679 --> 01:40:06,719
which then can come to council and a

2594
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:10,239
30-day hearing period can take place.

2595
01:40:06,719 --> 01:40:12,400
Um, I was expecting that report for this

2596
01:40:10,239 --> 01:40:13,440
week, but I I think Jeremy was also out

2597
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:16,159
of town.

2598
01:40:13,440 --> 01:40:17,840
» So, there's likely that was a big part

2599
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:20,000
of that issue. I know that it is on his

2600
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:22,800
radar now. So, hopefully we will have

2601
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,560
this and be able to move forward in

2602
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,800
» And just to clarify, my understanding

2603
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:28,400
was that if we get the staff report, we

2604
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,760
can go ahead and run the ad in the

2605
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,159
paper. Y

2606
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:34,080
» Even prior to council reviewing the

2607
01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:34,480
stack report to start that 30-day

2608
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,679
countdown.

2609
01:40:34,480 --> 01:40:40,400
» Yeah, send also your flowchart.

2610
01:40:37,679 --> 01:40:41,840
» I have requested uh Lonnie print several

2611
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,760
copies that we can hand to the room at

2612
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:46,639
the end of the meeting.

2613
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:50,000
» I sent you an email like during this

2614
01:40:46,639 --> 01:40:52,639
» We will we will we will we will we will

2615
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:55,840
forward it on to council.

2616
01:40:52,639 --> 01:40:57,440
So, specifically, um, one thing that we

2617
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:59,920
had been working on and I was having a

2618
01:40:57,440 --> 01:41:03,040
hell of a time finding yesterday was

2619
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:04,639
our, uh, process and kind of a flowchart

2620
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:07,360
to help understand because we've been

2621
01:41:04,639 --> 01:41:09,679
working on not just the application, but

2622
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:12,639
the process and procedure of what these

2623
01:41:09,679 --> 01:41:15,040
are going to look like. Um, I had tried

2624
01:41:12,639 --> 01:41:17,280
after our previous land use and planning

2625
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:18,719
meeting to put together a flowchart that

2626
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:22,000
kind of breaks it down and makes it a

2627
01:41:18,719 --> 01:41:24,880
little bit easier to understand when the

2628
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:27,760
timelines will be, what the expectations

2629
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:30,000
should be for city staff as well as for

2630
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:31,760
the applicants. Um, so I think it does

2631
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:35,280
break it down nicely and I did find

2632
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:36,719
that. So, I will um again hopefully I'll

2633
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,239
get a copy printed for you guys if you

2634
01:41:36,719 --> 01:41:40,080
want to wait till the end of the meeting

2635
01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:43,440
and then we'll get that in next week's

2636
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:45,679
packet uh preferably. Um but it it still

2637
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:48,239
has some highlighted pieces that are

2638
01:41:45,679 --> 01:41:51,280
action items that we'll have to work on,

2639
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:53,520
specifically some templates, um some

2640
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:55,679
motions to carry, and just some overall

2641
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,440
review that we'll have as a as a

2642
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:59,280
steering committee. So, that kind of

2643
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:01,920
ties in together. Again, hopefully we

2644
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:04,560
will have yours up for review at our

2645
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:06,719
next meeting and then we can make an

2646
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:10,320
action at our following meeting. That is

2647
01:42:06,719 --> 01:42:11,119
the goal. Um, and I imagine that we

2648
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:12,400
should be pretty close.

2649
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:15,520
» I don't think the action would be at the

2650
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:17,199
next meeting because 30 days it can't be

2651
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,880
because 30 days hasn't started yet,

2652
01:42:17,199 --> 01:42:20,159
» Right? And that's what I'm saying is it

2653
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,880
won't be at the next meeting. It'll be

2654
01:42:20,159 --> 01:42:22,000
the one after.

2655
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,040
» And I'm saying no because that would

2656
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:26,000
only be 28 days.

2657
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:27,760
» Oh, well, just kidding.

2658
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,800
» Add two weeks to that. Yeah. 30 days is

2659
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:31,440
is a number.

2660
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:33,119
» Yep, that is a number. And one thing to

2661
01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:35,920
clarify too, part of the reason that we

2662
01:42:33,119 --> 01:42:38,719
are very and we understand that Barb has

2663
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:40,560
been very patient as well as tennis um

2664
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:42,239
in terms of this process because it's

2665
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,920
something that we're working through and

2666
01:42:42,239 --> 01:42:46,400
we're trying to do it in concert with

2667
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:48,320
some moving pieces. One of the real

2668
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:51,040
reasons we're being very adamant about

2669
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:52,960
the 30-day review is though this has

2670
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:56,000
been a public discussion for the past

2671
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:58,960
year and there's been drawings shown,

2672
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:00,800
there's been uh plans discussed and all

2673
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:03,199
of those items until you can really see

2674
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:05,600
the full picture in these packets and

2675
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:07,199
get a chance to review it. I think it's

2676
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,360
only fair that the public has that

2677
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:10,880
opportunity uh and then that way they

2678
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:13,679
can speak to it and also hopefully

2679
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:15,520
understand it better. So my hope is that

2680
01:43:13,679 --> 01:43:16,960
when we get these applications and these

2681
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:20,159
staff reports, it will provide

2682
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:22,239
clarification and truly

2683
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:24,000
some buyin across the board with the

2684
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:24,880
community. So set the precedent for all

2685
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,880
of our

2686
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:29,920
» Yeah, it really does. And so we're

2687
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:31,760
really trying hard to do things the

2688
01:43:29,920 --> 01:43:35,440
right way. We're trying very hard to

2689
01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:37,440
trust our staffs and create procedures

2690
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:40,239
for them to review so that they can make

2691
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:43,760
educated decisions without holding our

2692
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:45,920
hands and without ever having subjective

2693
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:48,639
decision making taking place. That's

2694
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:50,159
really crucial for the whole process. Uh

2695
01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:52,800
so again, we always appreciate

2696
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:55,199
everyone's patience um as we work

2697
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:57,600
through it. And again, there's a good

2698
01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:59,760
example now in our applica like of an

2699
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:02,000
application in the packet that people

2700
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,840
can kind of review. And again, it's not

2701
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:06,000
done yet. So like if there's anything

2702
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:07,920
that people feel like this is kind of

2703
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:10,159
lacking, we'd rather see this that or

2704
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:12,000
the other. Please by all means bring

2705
01:44:10,159 --> 01:44:14,800
that feedback because I'm we're already

2706
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:16,239
finding things that have gaps. like we

2707
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,159
already are seeing like oh man we really

2708
01:44:16,239 --> 01:44:21,360
do want to have theseus ahead of time

2709
01:44:18,159 --> 01:44:23,040
and we really do want to see this before

2710
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,880
uh having you know

2711
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:26,719
» Reemphasized the point you made and that

2712
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:29,440
is that this is going to work at the

2713
01:44:26,719 --> 01:44:31,520
speed of government um by by design is

2714
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:33,199
supposed to and and while I appreciate

2715
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:36,080
the the need to say if we can get done

2716
01:44:33,199 --> 01:44:40,719
now and it could be done for next year's

2717
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:42,800
season um from from from my position

2718
01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:44,880
we're right on schedule with what we've

2719
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:46,639
been projecting we would from the so the

2720
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,760
get we're not we're not behind of what

2721
01:44:46,639 --> 01:44:49,360
we said this would take.

2722
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,040
» Yeah. And end of the day again we're

2723
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:53,920
trying to do our due diligence because

2724
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:57,520
it's not one person's piece of land. It

2725
01:44:53,920 --> 01:45:01,199
is all of our land and it probably be

2726
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:02,080
faster to buy a lot and build a tennis

2727
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:03,840
court.

2728
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,840
» It would be this is a city.

2729
01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:08,159
» Yeah. And that's exactly the the case.

2730
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:10,560
So again I I appreciate everyone's

2731
01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:12,719
patience as we work through this. Uh

2732
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:16,400
again, Lonnie and Dave, I will I've sent

2733
01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:18,080
you the copy of that flowchart today. Um

2734
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,440
so if anyone if we could get that in the

2735
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,360
packet, that'd be great. I know there's

2736
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:24,560
some typos, so again, don't don't

2737
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:26,000
slaughter me like we're working on it.

2738
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:27,280
And again, would like to have some

2739
01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:28,000
» Anything else from land use and

2740
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:30,400
planning.

2741
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:33,400
» Uh

2742
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,400
hold.

2743
01:45:33,679 --> 01:45:38,199
» Any questions for land use and planning?

2744
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:45,280
» All right. um public works.

2745
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:48,239
» Um well, we pretty much hit on

2746
01:45:45,280 --> 01:45:51,360
everything except um we do have on the

2747
01:45:48,239 --> 01:45:52,960
agenda the water rights and um

2748
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:55,760
» I will yeah I will just give a really

2749
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:57,440
high level overview. We talked to dees

2750
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:59,360
and the biggest thing we got was that

2751
01:45:57,440 --> 01:46:00,560
this is not an emergency. This is not

2752
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:03,520
emergent something that has to be

2753
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:06,400
addressed. Um th this was some water

2754
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:08,320
rights from that were given to the city.

2755
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:13,119
Um and there was a proposal about

2756
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:16,000
selling those. Um and and but but um the

2757
01:46:13,119 --> 01:46:18,159
short answer is we've we've we've had

2758
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,199
we've talked to the state. Um the state

2759
01:46:18,159 --> 01:46:20,239
is going to be our attorney's going to

2760
01:46:19,199 --> 01:46:21,760
be following up with the state and

2761
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:23,760
coming back to us with recommendation.

2762
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,840
But all we've clarified right now is

2763
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:29,480
this is not an emerging issue that we

2764
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,480
have to take care of yesterday.

2765
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:34,400
» I think that's all I have on that.

2766
01:46:32,639 --> 01:46:36,000
» Okay, I'm good.

2767
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:36,880
» All right. Anything else?

2768
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,880
» Public health.

2769
01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:40,080
» I guess we should ask or Patty, do you

2770
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:40,800
have anything else you want to add for

2771
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,159
public works?

2772
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,000
» Do you have anything you want to add

2773
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:46,239
» To public works?

2774
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:48,480
» No. Okay, good. All right.

2775
01:46:46,239 --> 01:46:51,679
» Don't want to leave you out.

2776
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:56,360
» Don't worry.

2777
01:46:51,679 --> 01:46:56,360
» Public public health and safety.

2778
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:00,320
» Public health and safety. I think you

2779
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:03,199
pretty much touched on everything in

2780
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:05,920
your mayor's comments um concerning the

2781
01:47:03,199 --> 01:47:08,960
bears issue. That's most of our

2782
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:12,639
discussion. Um we did have Dan the Bear

2783
01:47:08,960 --> 01:47:15,760
Man come in and

2784
01:47:12,639 --> 01:47:18,560
kind of explain the severity of the

2785
01:47:15,760 --> 01:47:21,119
situation um and really wants the public

2786
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:24,400
to be aware of how serious this matter

2787
01:47:21,119 --> 01:47:27,040
is. Um again, they are doing something

2788
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:28,080
on the 24th.

2789
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,600
» Yep. we

2790
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:30,000
» At 6:30 and the bear meeting is tomorrow

2791
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,760
at 2.

2792
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:33,840
» And then the bear meeting tomorrow too.

2793
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:36,000
Um yeah, that took up most of your time.

2794
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:38,560
And then um on our agenda for public

2795
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:41,920
health and safety that I have kept a

2796
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:43,760
safe zone and signage um and that is

2797
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:47,199
something that has just been on there

2798
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:49,760
for what I feel like forever now. But we

2799
01:47:47,199 --> 01:47:53,280
feel that until we see signs or some

2800
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:55,440
sort of change, it will remain.

2801
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:58,800
» Keep it up.

2802
01:47:55,440 --> 01:48:00,480
So, um, because Dan came and spoke at

2803
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:03,360
public health and safety, do you think

2804
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:05,600
it is 100% worthwhile for people to

2805
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:07,199
listen or watch that meeting?

2806
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,800
» 110. Okay.

2807
01:48:07,199 --> 01:48:12,320
» It was alarming.

2808
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:15,040
» It will be on you uh it aail up on

2809
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:16,480
YouTube soon, probably tomorrow. So,

2810
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:17,920
please watch the public health and

2811
01:48:16,480 --> 01:48:20,080
safety meeting at your

2812
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:22,320
» We have a very unique situation that

2813
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:24,880
bears like that's not really replicated

2814
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:26,400
anywhere in the state. Huckleberry.

2815
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:31,840
» No,

2816
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:33,360
» It's a creek and no no no timber. So I I

2817
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:35,520
found it very interesting and we all

2818
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,320
need to hear the story.

2819
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:37,840
» I will watch it.

2820
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,760
» All right. Anything else from public

2821
01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:42,560
health and safety? Any questions for

2822
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:44,560
public health and safety?

2823
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,440
» All right. Correspondence.

2824
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:48,000
» No.

2825
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:50,080
» Oh, I'm sorry. I skipped I opportunity

2826
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,800
to do anything before we get to

2827
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:53,199
correspondence.

2828
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:55,119
» Okay. Um, I've got 10 minutes, so I'm

2829
01:48:53,199 --> 01:48:56,800
I'm just going to be brief and say that

2830
01:48:55,119 --> 01:48:58,320
maybe all this what I want to talk about

2831
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:00,320
will come in the future because I don't

2832
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:04,239
I don't think I can wrap it up in 10

2833
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:06,639
minutes. But I'm um um first of all, I

2834
01:49:04,239 --> 01:49:08,239
think it's maybe the meeting on Thursday

2835
01:49:06,639 --> 01:49:10,639
will answer all the questions, but I

2836
01:49:08,239 --> 01:49:12,719
will not be there um about the ice rink.

2837
01:49:10,639 --> 01:49:15,760
I think we need an update on what's

2838
01:49:12,719 --> 01:49:19,600
going on with the ice rink um at both

2839
01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:21,119
locations. Um, I I don't know if

2840
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:24,560
anything's been going on there, but I

2841
01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:27,119
think if it doesn't happen Thursday, I'd

2842
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:29,040
like it to be on the I like the ice rink

2843
01:49:27,119 --> 01:49:30,719
people to come and update us. I think

2844
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:34,320
I've had a lot of questions about what's

2845
01:49:30,719 --> 01:49:36,639
going on. And um so I that's one thing

2846
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:39,040
I'd like to see on a future agenda.

2847
01:49:36,639 --> 01:49:41,199
Okay. Hey, if y'all remember two weeks

2848
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:43,360
ago,

2849
01:49:41,199 --> 01:49:48,159
um

2850
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:50,159
I the mayor mentioned censuring him and

2851
01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:53,119
I said I'd take care of that and I wrote

2852
01:49:50,159 --> 01:49:55,679
a resolution and I gave it to the

2853
01:49:53,119 --> 01:49:58,080
attorney, Mr. Steel, who said he would

2854
01:49:55,679 --> 01:50:01,199
share it with Scott and I'm assuming he

2855
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:05,280
will share it with you and MMIA. But um

2856
01:50:01,199 --> 01:50:08,800
I did what you uh suggested and um I

2857
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:10,480
wrote a resolution um about that. And

2858
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:13,440
then

2859
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:16,400
what I'm also concerned about is that I

2860
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:19,600
sometimes I get home and I get smart too

2861
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:21,920
late and I got home last night last week

2862
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:24,080
and I realized that what we talked about

2863
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:25,679
should have been recorded.

2864
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:28,159
There's very little of what we talked

2865
01:50:25,679 --> 01:50:30,560
about was HR. It was about you and you

2866
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:32,880
explaining what happened prior to you

2867
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:35,360
terminating Dennis. None of it was

2868
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:37,360
recorded and I don't know what to do

2869
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:39,760
about that. I really don't know if we

2870
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:42,880
should um put it on the agenda and we

2871
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:45,600
talk about it again. But that that was

2872
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:49,360
not a private conversation. very little

2873
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:52,560
of it which was uh you know

2874
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:56,719
you fired Jennison on the 15th and this

2875
01:50:52,560 --> 01:51:00,080
was August um I don't know when it was

2876
01:50:56,719 --> 01:51:03,119
five weeks after he was terminated and

2877
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:05,760
um so it's

2878
01:51:03,119 --> 01:51:08,480
it's not like um we're all surprised. We

2879
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:10,480
weren't surprised and I think it's um

2880
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:12,880
the fact that you did not talk to us is

2881
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:16,880
a breach of our contract, our charter

2882
01:51:12,880 --> 01:51:19,760
and I I want um I I want to put that

2883
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:22,560
resolution on the agenda in a few weeks.

2884
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:24,080
» So I if you'd like to right now you can

2885
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,920
make a motion. I said council can put

2886
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:27,679
anything on the agenda.

2887
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,199
Steel, I talked to Skyler.

2888
01:51:27,679 --> 01:51:30,560
» I haven't seen it yet, but you can still

2889
01:51:29,199 --> 01:51:32,480
put it on the agenda if you want.

2890
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:35,760
» Skyler had to talk to Scott and then

2891
01:51:32,480 --> 01:51:39,840
they then Skyler mentioned MMIA and

2892
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:42,320
maybe I'll talk to um uh Skyler, but um

2893
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:45,280
I u also I think even more importantly

2894
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:47,520
is what we talked about was not recorded

2895
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:50,159
and I don't know I have no idea what how

2896
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:53,040
to handle that.

2897
01:51:50,159 --> 01:51:56,639
Anybody got any ideas? Well, I just have

2898
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:59,119
a it was a closed meeting because it was

2899
01:51:56,639 --> 01:52:02,159
an HR sensitive

2900
01:51:59,119 --> 01:52:04,400
meeting, part of the meeting, and I saw

2901
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:06,719
the email where Dennis did not wave his

2902
01:52:04,400 --> 01:52:08,239
right to privacy. So, we had to have it

2903
01:52:06,719 --> 01:52:09,840
be a closed meeting because we didn't

2904
01:52:08,239 --> 01:52:13,440
know exactly what was going to come up

2905
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:15,199
in that meeting. So, I mean that I'm not

2906
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:17,360
arguing that. I'm arguing that at some

2907
01:52:15,199 --> 01:52:19,119
point it should have been reopened when

2908
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:22,800
the mayor started telling us what

2909
01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:24,320
happened on June 9th when he um and I

2910
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:26,080
would argue that's exactly the part that

2911
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,719
was a closed meeting. But

2912
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,520
» I mean

2913
01:52:26,719 --> 01:52:31,040
» But you you you told us what you should

2914
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:32,960
have done. There were five things I wish

2915
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:37,360
I'd done this. I wish I'd done that. And

2916
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:40,080
why isn't the public um um should hear

2917
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:43,280
this? But be because Dennison did not

2918
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:45,119
wave his right to privacy and we never

2919
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:48,560
know what's going to come up when it's

2920
01:52:45,119 --> 01:52:50,239
an HR situation and as an employee he

2921
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,440
had that right to privacy and we gave

2922
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:52,159
that to him.

2923
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:54,159
» Let me let me

2924
01:52:52,159 --> 01:52:56,560
» It moved on. It moved on past

2925
01:52:54,159 --> 01:52:59,840
» And and it may have but no one moved to

2926
01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:00,320
I mean I guess shortly that's a terrible

2927
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,400
tab

2928
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:04,719
» But the whole but the whole part of that

2929
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:06,239
meeting needed to be closed because we

2930
01:53:04,719 --> 01:53:07,840
didn't know what we were all going to

2931
01:53:06,239 --> 01:53:09,520
ask. We couldn't say, "Oh, wait. We need

2932
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:10,080
to close the meeting again." It doesn't

2933
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,000
work that way.

2934
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,599
» Let let me help a little bit or I'll try

2935
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:17,440
because I'll restate what I believe is

2936
01:53:13,599 --> 01:53:18,880
referring as given a time machine. What

2937
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:20,239
that letter would have said that I

2938
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:22,560
written a letter is not that we are

2939
01:53:20,239 --> 01:53:24,880
terminating services. It would have said

2940
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:26,880
we are I'm exercising the right from our

2941
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:29,040
contract to provide 30 days notice and

2942
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:31,040
your service will end on which is which

2943
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:33,520
in essence what it is. But the word

2944
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:36,880
» I read it today. You wrote it on June

2945
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:39,040
15th and I wrote you on June 16th asking

2946
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:41,679
at the meeting to have a charter for

2947
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:44,560
everybody to read and the Montana law

2948
01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:47,520
that you don't you can't you can't um

2949
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:48,719
terminate people

2950
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,880
requires council approval

2951
01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:54,000
» And it's so cool because Montana is the

2952
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:56,480
only state that has that and but but I

2953
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:58,320
have not I requested it on June 16th for

2954
01:53:56,480 --> 01:54:00,239
the next meeting. Haven't seen anything

2955
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:00,880
anything I request I don't get.

2956
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:03,119
Everybody,

2957
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,560
» That's why I

2958
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:06,239
» Is there a motion you would like to make

2959
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,920
at this point, Council Member Root, to

2960
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:08,800
put something on the agenda because I'm

2961
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,400
giving you the opportunity.

2962
01:54:08,800 --> 01:54:11,920
» Well, I've got 10 days, right?

2963
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:13,520
» You have as many days

2964
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:14,080
» I'll talk to Skyler, see what they're

2965
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,520
doing.

2966
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:16,800
» You can do it two weeks from now or a

2967
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:19,040
month from now where I want.

2968
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:21,679
» I want to do it now because this time is

2969
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:24,239
of the essence and you mentioned it. I

2970
01:54:21,679 --> 01:54:27,440
said, "Okay, I'll I'll look into that."

2971
01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:28,960
And I wrote a resolution. Any any other

2972
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:30,159
business that anybody else on council

2973
01:54:28,960 --> 01:54:33,159
would like to bring up at this point in

2974
01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:33,159
time?

2975
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,080
All right. Hearing none, let's go to Oh,

2976
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:36,480
wait. Was that a

2977
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,880
» No.

2978
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:40,800
» No. Okay. Correspondence. Any

2979
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,840
correspondence that council would like

2980
01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:45,199
to share?

2981
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:47,040
» Uh, I do have a couple. Um, two

2982
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:48,639
specifically based off of the

2983
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:52,880
construction projects

2984
01:54:48,639 --> 01:54:56,159
» That are going on. Um, one is just some

2985
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:58,800
concerns with citizens of where they've

2986
01:54:56,159 --> 01:55:02,000
taken up part of the road and it hasn't

2987
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:04,719
been fully like cleaned up on the on the

2988
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:07,360
edges. Um, that's been a big concern

2989
01:55:04,719 --> 01:55:08,480
with a few folks. And again, some of it

2990
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,000
I'm really excited about cuz it's going

2991
01:55:08,480 --> 01:55:12,159
to be the whole bit, but there's others

2992
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:13,760
pieces that it's like, oh, this just

2993
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:15,360
keeps getting worse.

2994
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:17,520
» And it will be done. That did come up.

2995
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:19,760
So, this the the restoration will be

2996
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:21,840
done. Okay. But the project is meant

2997
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:23,199
we're we're not we're not sweeping up

2998
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:23,760
the sawdust while somebody's still

2999
01:55:23,199 --> 01:55:25,199
drilling off.

3000
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:26,960
» And that's totally fine. I just wanted

3001
01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:30,719
to make sure that it was voiced. Yes.

3002
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:32,639
» Um and then the next one was damages to

3003
01:55:30,719 --> 01:55:36,639
somebody's vehicle.

3004
01:55:32,639 --> 01:55:39,199
» Um specifically just based off of the

3005
01:55:36,639 --> 01:55:41,280
height of the the ladder truck that was

3006
01:55:39,199 --> 01:55:42,960
going on with one of the construction

3007
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,960
workers and the hole in their

3008
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:48,080
windshield. Well, it seems pretty

3009
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:50,159
apparent that that's what the cause was.

3010
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:52,560
They apparently tried to ask the

3011
01:55:50,159 --> 01:55:55,520
contractor about it who then blew them

3012
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:58,480
off and then they tried to ask the the

3013
01:55:55,520 --> 01:56:00,639
GM about it who also blew them off.

3014
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,760
» So that is a concern that I have that

3015
01:56:00,639 --> 01:56:02,719
you know I just want to make sure that

3016
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,080
that's addressed for them.

3017
01:56:02,719 --> 01:56:05,679
» Well, what what they need to do is come

3018
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:07,679
to the city and file a complaint. And

3019
01:56:05,679 --> 01:56:09,040
Lonnie, do you have the anything to

3020
01:56:07,679 --> 01:56:10,159
share on what process they would do if

3021
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:10,560
somebody wants to file a complaint with

3022
01:56:10,159 --> 01:56:13,360
the city?

3023
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:15,440
» If it was the contract, not the city, do

3024
01:56:13,360 --> 01:56:17,040
they need to file a complaint? they

3025
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,760
would file a complaint against the

3026
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,560
contractor.

3027
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:23,440
» Well, they can let Mike be aware of it.

3028
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:25,920
But the process is it's if it's if the

3029
01:56:23,440 --> 01:56:28,080
contractor did the damage then

3030
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,679
» Yeah. And that contract though

3031
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:30,480
» And Well, no, but if they did it

3032
01:56:29,679 --> 01:56:33,199
insurance

3033
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,520
» Yeah. If they did it with their vehicle

3034
01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:35,119
» Yeah.

3035
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:37,199
» And it was something on their vehicle,

3036
01:56:35,119 --> 01:56:38,560
that's an insurance claim against that

3037
01:56:37,199 --> 01:56:39,440
vehicle.

3038
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,040
» And that was what I

3039
01:56:39,440 --> 01:56:41,920
» It has nothing to do with the city.

3040
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:43,840
That's someone

3041
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:46,560
» More. So, I was hoping that the city

3042
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:49,119
would provide an avenue or some sort of

3043
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:50,560
enforcement measure of this is someone

3044
01:56:49,119 --> 01:56:51,040
that we hired. We want to hold them

3045
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:52,320
accountable.

3046
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,679
» What they need to do is they need to

3047
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,639
file a police report.

3048
01:56:53,679 --> 01:56:55,280
» Okay. And they did.

3049
01:56:54,639 --> 01:56:56,960
» Okay. Okay.

3050
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,960
» Then they should have the insurance

3051
01:56:56,960 --> 01:57:00,560
information on that police report and

3052
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:01,840
then they called that insurance company

3053
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:03,840
directly and filed.

3054
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:05,599
» Oh, the the people bailed. They did not

3055
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:08,960
get the insurance information for these

3056
01:57:05,599 --> 01:57:10,880
folks. Is it was the cop the

3057
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:11,920
construction that's going on currently?

3058
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:14,639
» So, is it KC or

3059
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:16,400
» Cop?

3060
01:57:14,639 --> 01:57:18,960
» And I I guess I would also ask were they

3061
01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:20,880
parked in a a construction area because

3062
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:23,199
» They were parked by their property which

3063
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:24,080
is near a construction area but not like

3064
01:57:23,199 --> 01:57:25,520
in the zone

3065
01:57:24,080 --> 01:57:26,960
» Because I'll tell you I do not park in

3066
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:28,639
front of my house when those guys are in

3067
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:30,159
front of it.

3068
01:57:28,639 --> 01:57:32,400
» Period. I'm just saying like if someone

3069
01:57:30,159 --> 01:57:33,360
damages my car, no matter where I'm at,

3070
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:35,040
I would like to make sure

3071
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,400
» What I heard is is that the

3072
01:57:35,040 --> 01:57:38,800
recommendation is they need to make sure

3073
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:40,320
they hire a fire report.

3074
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:42,159
» That has been done

3075
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:44,719
» And at that point what'll happen is

3076
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:47,199
their insurance company will chase down

3077
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:48,320
» The the vendor. Okay. Because that's who

3078
01:57:47,199 --> 01:57:48,719
they have a complaint against.

3079
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:52,400
» Okay.

3080
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:54,880
» Did I gather all of that correctly?

3081
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:56,639
» Yeah. It just I think it'd be beneficial

3082
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:58,960
that I think it's worth it to make sure

3083
01:57:56,639 --> 01:58:02,159
that Mike knows about it. Yeah. But but

3084
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:04,159
at the same time if it's Yeah. So so

3085
01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:06,000
there's there's

3086
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:08,159
» The moral of the story is do not parking

3087
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,400
in front of your house if they have you

3088
01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:10,239
know

3089
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:12,880
» Again

3090
01:58:10,239 --> 01:58:13,599
in front of the guy who's driving to and

3091
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,239
fro.

3092
01:58:13,599 --> 01:58:14,639
» Okay.

3093
01:58:14,239 --> 01:58:16,880
» And

3094
01:58:14,639 --> 01:58:18,560
» That's different. Yeah.

3095
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,400
» Have you seen them back?

3096
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:22,560
» And and and to be fair if somebody wants

3097
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:24,880
to if somebody wants to file this

3098
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:26,880
against the city they can. But it'll

3099
01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:28,639
probably get dismissed because it's not

3100
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:30,880
us. I'm just thinking that the city

3101
01:58:28,639 --> 01:58:32,880
should because it is our contractors

3102
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,960
potentially assist. That's all I'm

3103
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:36,159
saying. I'm not saying we should sue or

3104
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:39,199
do any of that. I'm just saying like,

3105
01:58:36,159 --> 01:58:41,840
hey, there was a bad move here. How can

3106
01:58:39,199 --> 01:58:42,880
we help make a resolution as a good

3107
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,719
loving city?

3108
01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:47,840
» We probably resolution for you,

3109
01:58:44,719 --> 01:58:49,679
» Chelsea. Chelsea, we we probably have a

3110
01:58:47,840 --> 01:58:51,199
certificate of insurance from them that

3111
01:58:49,679 --> 01:58:52,639
lists their insurance company.

3112
01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:54,000
» See, and that's what I'm just bringing

3113
01:58:52,639 --> 01:58:54,800
it to people who might have a

3114
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:56,080
certificate.

3115
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:56,719
» All right. Thank you.

3116
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,480
» All right. All right, I'm going to go

3117
01:58:56,719 --> 01:59:01,360
ahead and uh bring it back to the table

3118
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:03,040
here. Um I would like to open it up for

3119
01:59:01,360 --> 01:59:06,400
public comment. This is just the last

3120
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:07,840
chance for the public to address the

3121
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:10,000
council and be heard on anything within

3122
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:13,840
council's curfew. Go ahead and open

3123
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:16,320
public comment. I'm looking to the room.

3124
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:19,119
I'm looking to online for cameras,

3125
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:22,159
unmuted mics, raised hands. Public

3126
01:59:19,119 --> 01:59:24,800
comment going once. Public comment going

3127
01:59:22,159 --> 01:59:26,159
twice.

3128
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,000
public comment going three times. We'll

3129
01:59:26,159 --> 01:59:30,639
go ahead and close the public comment.

3130
01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:32,880
With that, we have completed our uh

3131
01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:36,639
agenda. Go ahead and

3132
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,639
» Sorry, I Sorry. was