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>>We are calling this wonderful

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meeting to order. It's a great

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day. If anyone wishes

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to address the city council

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on any item considered

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at this meeting before or

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during council's consideration

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of that item,

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please enter your name

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in the electronic kiosk located

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in the lobby. The City council

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will allocate up to a maximum

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of 3 minutes per speaker

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for each agenda item. Staff

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reports are available online

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at the city's website,

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cityofredding.gov and in the

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public view binder located

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on the podium

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at the north side

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of the chamber. How many

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speakers yet? Now we got one.

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There was no reportable action

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for closed session. Yep, yep.

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We are going. Pledge

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of allegiance. Then Patrick

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Blewett will give us the

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>>Ready?

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>>I pledge allegiance to the

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Flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic

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for which it stands, one

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Nation under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for

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all.

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>>Let's pray as we prepare

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for this city council meeting.

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Lord, we ask for your comfort

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and your wisdom. First, we ask

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for your comfort and care as

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many grieve the Charlie Kirk

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tragedy and prepare

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for his funeral on Saturday.

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We acknowledge,

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like the governor of Utah said,

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many people love Charlie and

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what he stood for and many

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people hated him and what he

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stood for. That polarization

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grieves us and it grieves you

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too. Lord, we acknowledge that

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part of the fabric of America

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has been torn. Please forgive

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us and mend us together as your

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one people. Oh Lord, give us

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the grace to allow people

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to respond and grieve different

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in different ways. Give us the

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strength to hold our tongues

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and be gracious when people

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view the situation differently

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than us. Give us the courage to

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speak our own minds when

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appropriate. Give us the

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ability to hear each other

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with our hearts,

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not just our ears. I would ask,

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Lord, that you guide us past

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the grief borne language

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of we are Charlie and

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into a chorus

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of distinct voices

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in mourning. You have made us

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each different and you have

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made us neighbors. We all

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desire your blessing

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to be free from fear,

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to flourish as a community and

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to know your peace, O Lord.

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Lord, we ask that you make us

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peacemakers

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in this angry world. Second, we

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humbly ask

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for wisdom as members

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of the community. Give us

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creativity to dream

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about what reading can become.

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another and give us freedom

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to dream together. Lord, we ask

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that you give this council

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wisdom as they make decisions

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that affect this community now

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and for years to come. Give

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them ears to hear each other

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and give them ears

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to hear the people of Redding

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so We invoke your blessing now

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on these proceedings. And we

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ask this in the name of Jesus

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and God's people said, Amen.

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let's sit down.

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>>All right,

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we got two speakers. Nick,

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you're up first. Oh, what?

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>>Thank you. Now, public

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speakers. Nick, you can be

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first. Steve, you're up second.

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>>Well, Barry's retiring,

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and I wanted to go over some

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of the accomplishments he's

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made since he's been our city

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manager. You know,

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since he took over, Redding's

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starting to look

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like a banana republic. The

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homeless population has

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exploded. And, you know, out

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of the area,

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parolees have been welcomed

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to our community. And I know

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that Barry and a lot

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of other people are aware

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of it,

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but they keep denying it.

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to the point even the out of

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town parolees are getting

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angry. You're letting so many

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enter our community. It seems

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to me that he did keep the

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local economy moving because.

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glass replacement business,

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because of all the homeless and

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the vagrants throwing rocks

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through our glasses. And the

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guys that build fences, iron

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fences, around our businesses

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to protect them,

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they've done awfully well,

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too. They've kept the police

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busy hurting the homeless

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around. And the fire

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department, you know,

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two thirds of their calls are

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for warming fires

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by the homeless. It doesn't

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seem like anybody wants

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to address that. I ran

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into a police officer at

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Costco right around Christmas

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time,

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and I asked him what percentage

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of the calls would he credit

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to homelessness? The homeless

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people? I said 50%. He said,

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no way. More than that. Seems

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to me a city manager would get

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on top of that problem and

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protect their citizens

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from the problems they create.

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to hell during Barry's tenure

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as city manager. And. But, you

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know, one part of our economy

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that really blossomed is the

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need for private security. And

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then I. I wonder about the

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public private partnerships

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that seem to come into vogue

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with Barry. The one that comes

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to mind to me is Block 7, where

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two blocks in City of Redding

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was more or less given away

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for just a penance. And it was

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developed by a couple

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of private entities, and Barry

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referred to it as a public

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private partnership.

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isn't on any deeds,

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and they're not getting any

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of the profits or any

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of the rents or anything. And I

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wonder whose idea it was to

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Make Redding a bicycle town. I

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haven't found anybody that is

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really in favor of it. And then

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we've got rebates on bikes,

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actually giving bikes away and

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cars away. And now they want an

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increase

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in electricity costs. And

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we had the sports park,

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the soccer loan for about three

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and a half million dollars,

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I think it was, didn't pay

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back,

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but now they want an increase.

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he did do well

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with the government employees.

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$20 million worth of raises

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in the last two or three years.

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>>Good morning, council staff,

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community members. Nick, I'm

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sorry, but Barry doesn't make

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any of those decisions. Those

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are all city council decisions.

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about eight years ago,

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seeing all the crime that was

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in the streets at that time,

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to these meetings. And so I

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decided to figure out what was

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going on. I figured I had

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to come to these meetings.

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What were the causes

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of the huge amount of crime?

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in the county I grew up in.

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larger cities and areas that

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are crime infested. So that I

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about the situation, I came

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to the council meetings,

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I met people like Nick Gardner

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and was learning that were,

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you know, instrumental

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in speaking and involved

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in the city and speaking

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to some of them.

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out it was this easy problem

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that. That basically the devil

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incarnate was our City manager,

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Barry Tiffin, that he was the

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problem in all this. So that

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being the case, I decided

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to confront Barry about some

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of the problems that existed.

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to say that the city manager,

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you know, creates all these

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problems is kind of ridiculous

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because he simply presents

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information

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to the city councils, and the

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city council basically makes

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all the decisions that Nick

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Gardner just mentioned. So

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shoot. So anyway, I asked him

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about some of the different

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problems that I saw, and Barry

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always had a good explanation

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and he always had a good

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rationale as to why those

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decisions were made. I came

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to respect his decisions, and I

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found that usually when I

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disregard disagreed with him,

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I hadn't taken into

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consideration everything. I've

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come over time to respect

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Barry as city manager

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to the greatest extent. The

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city Council changes as time

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goes on,

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but the city manager remains

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in his position. It was one

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of Barry's responsibilities to

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help the new city council

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adjust to their jobs

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without making bad decisions

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before they could be fully

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informed. I think he's been

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very successful at doing that.

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I think that he has saved the

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city millions of dollars

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over the years being able

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to explain to the council

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members and other people the

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ramifications of hasty

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decisions. I don't believe you

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can find an individual that has

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greater knowledge of the City

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of Reading than Barry Tippen.

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With that knowledge,

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he has served the City of

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Redding very well. Barry, I

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personally want to thank you

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for all that you've done

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for the city. And I want

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to thank you for your service.

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I wish you good fortune

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on your next adventure.

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Anyway, thank you very much.

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>>Thanks, Steve. All right,

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let's get rolling.

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Presentations 2A. Pardon me.

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>>There should be more public

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comment. I know I signed up on

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the kiosk.

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>>I don't have it down.

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>>Here we go.

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>>Adopt resolution honoring

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Barry Tippen

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for his distinguished service

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to the City of Reading and

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associated presentations. I get

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more than three minutes,

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don't I? Good evening,

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everyone. Tonight we come

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together to celebrate and honor

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someone who has left an

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extraordinary mark on the City

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of Reading. Our City Manager,

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Barry Tippen, who is retiring

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after 21 years

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of dedicated service. It's hard

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to capture a career like this

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in just a few words, so I'll

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share a few highlights that

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speak to the impact Barry has

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had on our city. Under Barry's

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leadership, Reading became one

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of the first cities in

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California to launch a crisis

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intervention response team,

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pairing police with mental

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health professionals. Barry

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also worked to modernize the

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fire department,

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moving three firefighters per

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engine, acquiring new fire

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engines, a ladder truck, and

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improving the fire department's

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technology, which keeps both

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firefighters and our community

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safer. And when our community

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faced some

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of its toughest challenges,

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the Carr Fire, Snowmageddon and

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COVID 19 pandemic, Barry guided

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our response and recovery

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with steadiness,

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compassion and determination.

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One of Barry's most valuable

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legacies is the transformation

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of downtown Reading.

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From opening Market street and

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creating the Market Street

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Promenade to the Pine Street

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Lofts Block 7, Whistle Stop

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Park, Barry helped bring new

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energy to the heart

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of our city. And all while he

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never lost sight

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of the importance of housing.

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From the Woodlands Apartments

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to the Lawrence Hotel, from

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Kinetic Court to East Street

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Senior Apartments, and through

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multiple micro shelter

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projects, Barry made sure that

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more

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of our residents had a place

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to call home.

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Behind the scenes, Barry pushed

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forward many substantial

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infrastructure investments,

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including major upgrades to our

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wastewater treatment plant,

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the expansion of Cypress

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Street Bridge, the development

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of Stillwater Business park,

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which now houses employers

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like Amazon and Frito Lay. He

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also helped bring more jobs and

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opportunities through projects

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like the redevelopment of

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Mount Shasta Mall, the

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relocation of Costco, and

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expanded air service to the

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Reading Regional Airport,

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giving our residents direct

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flights to San Francisco, Los

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Angeles, Denver and Seattle.

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Inside City Hall, Barry is just

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as impactful. He's created the

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city's communication team who

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are all responsible for all

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of our press releases,

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our social media channels,

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podcasts, the city's website,

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the city newsletter,

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basically.

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>> Anything and everything that

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should be shared

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with the public.

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>> Barry has represented

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Reading regionally statewide

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and we testified before

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Congress. As director of REU,

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he has served as the director

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of chairman of Shascom. You

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may know them as 911

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dispatchers, TANIC,

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otherwise known as

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Transmission Agency of

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Northern California and I guess

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Banic Also known as Balancing

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agency of Northern

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California. Agencies you and I

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don't necessarily know about

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because we have good people who

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handle these things. Speaking

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of good people, Barry has

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assembled a highly effective,

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well rounded leadership team.

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The majority of whom have been

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in their positions

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for just a couple of years.

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But well beyond the titles and

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the projects, Barry has brought

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vision, steady leadership, and

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a collaborative spirit that has

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made Redding stronger.

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On behalf

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of the city council, I want

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to say thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you, Barry,

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for your leadership, your

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service and your unwavering

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commitment to the people of

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Redding. You leave

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behind not just a list

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of accomplishments, but a

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legacy that will shape this

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city for generations. Thank

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you. So apparently we don't

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have a clock or anything

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for you. Anybody want

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to say anything? Mr. Littal?

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Yeah, I do. I've been here

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for just under a year, but I

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firmly believe that the city is

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better today than what it was

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when he took over. And

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from the moment I met Barry, I

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just felt trusted

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with this information,

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his guidance. He's able

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to answer all my questions.

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And we're just incredibly

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grateful for your leadership

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and guiding us

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through difficulty

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over the many, many years

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in the past

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before my time when I was here.

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But I'm just eternally

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grateful. And I don't think we

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know what we're going to lose

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until you're gone and you're

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going to be very difficult

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to replace. And I'm grateful

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for everything you've given

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to the city of Redding. Thank

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you.

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>> Anybody else, I would like

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to say thank you. Barry is

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aware of this now because I

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told him pretty soon when I

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came onto council that I was

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pretty judgmental of his choice

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when he was chosen as the city

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manager, that I felt like we

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were rubber stamping someone

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who would simply moved up the

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ranks. And I have been

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thoroughly impressed

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by your knowledge, by the way

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in which that you have no

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problem with me disagreeing

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with you or agreeing

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with you. I really, really have

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valued just your insight and

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the ability

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to really have knowledge of

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virtually every single

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department. So merely replacing

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your knowledge and your input

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is gonna be a large shoes

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to fill. Thank you for your

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honesty and your candor.

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>> Always.

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>> Well, personally I would say

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we've met many, many, many,

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many times. I'm grateful

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for all that you've done. You

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guided us.

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But you've never tried

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to persuade me in my decisions

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like Aaron when we agreed. We

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have had several disagreements

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and we still have

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disagreements. But I'm very

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respectful and honored

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to know you and grateful to

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have met you and know you and I

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Hope that we can be. I know

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I'll be your friend when we

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leave. And I'm sure you won't

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answer all my calls

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after then, but you know, I'm

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thankful that you answered most

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of them now. So anyway,

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thank you very much, Very much.

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All right. Are we going

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to get a picture maybe?

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>> Oh, yeah.

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>> What you think so?

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>> We also need a motion

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on the.

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>> Resolution before we do

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pictures.

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>> I'll make a motion that we

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accept the resolution. I'm

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sorry, what was that? I'm just

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making a motion that we accept

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the resolution as stated. I'll

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second that. All in favor?

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Aye.

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>> Aye.

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>> Aye. Second pass unanimously

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or was there photo? Anybody?

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Yeah.

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>> Yep.

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[ PICTURE TAKING ]

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>>Mr. Mayor, would you mind?

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>> Yes, please.

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>> Thank you.

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>> I do not mind.

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>> First, you know, I want

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to thank Nick for all the

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amazing powers he thinks I

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have. So I appreciate that.

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>> And.

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>> And you love the city so

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much, I think you should move

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into the limits so you can vote

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for council, so

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to say the least. You know,

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I never really expected

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to end my career

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under these circumstances. You

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know, I've always planned

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to retire in 2025, and that's

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been long known, you know,

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to move on

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to my next phase.

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>> Reality.

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>> I was going to retire about

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seven years ago and decided

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to stick around. But I never

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thought I'd finish my career

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with a bit

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of character assassination

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by a council member. It's

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pretty disheartening,

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especially when these

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allegations and accusations are

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baseless and completely false,

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seem designed to serve some

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unknown political agenda and

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harm our city. And

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unfortunately, revisionist

590
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history is something that seems

591
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to be the go to move

592
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:03,100
for some politicians

593
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to wipe away what we all know

594
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to be true. I know for certain

595
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,100
that we own our individual

596
00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:11,401
integrity as individuals. Only

597
00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:13,100
we can give it away. What I

598
00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,100
know for certain is my

599
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integrity is fully intact.

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But I cannot say with certainty

601
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,100
that it's the same

602
00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:24,100
for my accuser. That said,

603
00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:26,100
tonight's not about anger.

604
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:27,100
It's not about bitterness.

605
00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:28,100
It's about celebration and

606
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gratitude and none

607
00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:32,100
of what I've been able

608
00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:33,100
to accomplish. Whether you

609
00:21:33,100 --> 00:21:35,100
believe it or not,

610
00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:36,100
it's possible

611
00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:38,100
without my wife, Joanne,

612
00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:40,100
sitting in the back

613
00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:43,100
of my family with my son Zach

614
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and daughter in law

615
00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:47,100
Gabrielle. You know,

616
00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:50,601
they've let me be through these

617
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,100
long nights and all the endless

618
00:21:52,100 --> 00:21:53,100
meetings and crises that seem

619
00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:54,100
to never end. You know,

620
00:21:54,100 --> 00:21:55,100
they've been my support system.

621
00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:56,100
They're my anchor. And I thank

622
00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:57,100
them from the bottom of my

623
00:21:57,100 --> 00:21:58,100
heart. I thank the council

624
00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:59,100
members as well. Through my

625
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eight years as city manager and

626
00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:02,100
before, you've supported me

627
00:22:02,100 --> 00:22:03,100
while I support you. You've

628
00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,100
helped me be successful,

629
00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:06,100
and I hope I've done the same

630
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:07,100
for you. And, of course,

631
00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,100
I have to acknowledge

632
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,100
Camille. Camille just

633
00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,100
extraordinarily manages the

634
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:15,100
office of the city manager,

635
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:16,100
and she's our rock. She's our

636
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:17,100
stability. She takes care

637
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:19,100
of everything. She protects us.

638
00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:21,100
She's awesome. Thank you,

639
00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:23,100
Camille. When I look

640
00:22:23,100 --> 00:22:26,100
at my time as city manager,

641
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,100
I'm proud of how together,

642
00:22:28,100 --> 00:22:29,100
we've navigated

643
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:30,100
through many things. Some

644
00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:32,100
of them were mentioned, you

645
00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:33,100
know, the car fire in as

646
00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,100
Firenado, Snowmageddon. What

647
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,100
wasn't mentioned was the

648
00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:38,100
pension tsunami when I first

649
00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:39,100
took over.

650
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:41,100
At least that's what I call it.

651
00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:42,100
And of course,

652
00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:43,100
the global pandemic. And each

653
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,100
of these events tested our

654
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:46,100
community in ways that could

655
00:22:46,100 --> 00:22:48,100
have broken us, really,

656
00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:49,100
but it didn't. You know,

657
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:50,100
it revealed our resilience,

658
00:22:50,100 --> 00:22:51,100
our strength, and our ability

659
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,100
to adapt.

660
00:22:53,100 --> 00:22:54,100
>> And.

661
00:22:54,100 --> 00:22:55,100
>> And I think our community is

662
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,100
better for it. And I think we

663
00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:58,100
have shown some amazing

664
00:22:58,100 --> 00:23:00,100
aptitude as a community. But if

665
00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:01,100
you ask me what I consider my

666
00:23:01,100 --> 00:23:02,100
greatest accomplishment,

667
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,100
it isn't surviving disasters.

668
00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:04,100
It's building the executive

669
00:23:04,100 --> 00:23:05,100
team that now leads the city.

670
00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,100
They're talented, dedicated,

671
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,100
and deeply committed

672
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,100
to serving Reading

673
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:11,100
with integrity. They are,

674
00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:12,100
without question, the best team

675
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:13,100
I could have ever hoped

676
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,100
to work alongside. And our

677
00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:15,100
city's future is secure

678
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:16,100
under their guidance. So, yes,

679
00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:17,100
it's been an honor

680
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,100
to serve the city, an honor

681
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,100
to work with so many good

682
00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:23,100
people who care deeply

683
00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:24,100
about this community as I do.

684
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:25,100
It's an honor

685
00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:26,100
to have played my part in

686
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,100
shaping its present and

687
00:23:27,100 --> 00:23:28,100
preparing for the future. So

688
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:30,100
thank you

689
00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:31,100
for the trust you've given me.

690
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:32,100
Despite the noise

691
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:33,100
of politics,

692
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:34,100
which is deafening at times,

693
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:36,100
I leave my post with pride in

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00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,100
what we've accomplished

695
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:38,100
together, and confidence

696
00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:39,100
in the people who will carry

697
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,100
on in the future.

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00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,100
>> Thank you.

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00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,100
>> Thank you very.

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00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:45,100
>> Much.

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00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:11,100
>> All right, moving on

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00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:13,100
to be presentation by Danny

703
00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:15,100
Orloff. Visit Redding's tourism

704
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,100
marketing director, providing

705
00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:18,100
quarterly report regarding

706
00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:20,100
tourism marketing and

707
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:22,100
promotional efforts

708
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:24,100
for the city of Reading.

709
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:27,601
Danny, thank you. You guys kind

710
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:35,100
of set a vibe

711
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:36,100
with the lights dim real quick.

712
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,100
When I came up here,

713
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:40,100
it was really cool to see.

714
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:41,100
Just right before the

715
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,100
presentation came up,

716
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,100
you guys got to see the slide

717
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:45,100
of the beautiful area that we

718
00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:46,100
live in. No, you don't have

719
00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:48,100
to go back. It's the Sundial

720
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:51,100
Bridge with Shasta Bali and the

721
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:52,100
river just running

722
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:54,100
through the town. It's an honor

723
00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:56,100
to be up here to be able to

724
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,100
represent our our city and our

725
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:00,100
community. And I'm excited

726
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,100
to highlight some of the things

727
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,100
that we've been able

728
00:25:02,100 --> 00:25:04,100
to accomplish this past.

729
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:07,100
Overall, you guys have gotten

730
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:20,100
the annual report from us.

731
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:21,100
Once the Chamber of Commerce

732
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,100
took

733
00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:24,100
on the visit writing contract,

734
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,100
there's been a $2 million lift

735
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,100
that's been able to stabilize

736
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:29,100
for TOT. Talking amongst my

737
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,100
peers

738
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:33,100
in the tourism industry, a lot

739
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:35,100
of them have maintained flat

740
00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:37,100
since 2019. So seeing that

741
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:38,100
effort being able to increase

742
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:39,100
and sustain has been awesome.

743
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,100
It would be detrimental

744
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:43,100
to anything for happen

745
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:45,100
for the marketing budget

746
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:46,100
for us. We truly understand

747
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:48,100
that marketing advertising is

748
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:49,100
the fuel for sales and we

749
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,100
understand that we are the

750
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,100
megaphone for Reading and we're

751
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,100
that positive light to be able

752
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:55,100
to showcase everybody,

753
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:56,100
everything that we have

754
00:25:56,100 --> 00:25:58,100
to offer in this city. As you

755
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,100
guys see Here, with the TOT

756
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:01,100
stabilized website,

757
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,100
visitors went up by 14% and

758
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:05,100
impressions how many times our

759
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,100
ads were seen was up by 25%.

760
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,100
In this last year, we got

761
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:11,401
to see positive KPIs

762
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,401
from the average length

763
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:17,100
of stay going up by 12%,

764
00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,100
average night stays going up by

765
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:20,100
2% and seeing more repeat

766
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:22,100
guests come to our area being

767
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,100
up 10% versus the previous

768
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:25,100
year. We are very strategic

769
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:28,100
with our marketing dollars and

770
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,100
want to market

771
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:31,100
to those who are coming

772
00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:32,100
to our area. We're seeing more

773
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:33,100
visitation from Sacramento,

774
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,100
from Eureka, from Reno, from

775
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,100
those areas that are small

776
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,100
drive distances to us

777
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,100
in comparison to in the past

778
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,100
where it was longer distances

779
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,100
such as la, Seattle, Portland

780
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:45,100
and other areas. We're excited

781
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,100
to be able to use that data

782
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:48,100
to be able to make the

783
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:49,100
strategic decisions so we can

784
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:50,100
have our money last longer and

785
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,401
get a stronger return

786
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:54,100
on investment. For the

787
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:56,100
investment that you guys put

788
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:58,100
in to visit Reading, we're able

789
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:59,100
to see increase in visitation

790
00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,100
for hotel occupancy. Today's

791
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,100
been a great day overall.

792
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,100
Started off the day with State

793
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,100
of the City, hearing the impact

794
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:07,100
from Turtle Bay and how that

795
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:09,100
makes our visitors feel as well

796
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:10,100
as our locals. Being able

797
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:11,100
to see that Sundial bridge and

798
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,100
knowing that that is our icon

799
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:14,100
for our area and people love

800
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,100
to see that. They are thrilled

801
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:17,100
to be able to come to our area

802
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:18,100
to witness a piece

803
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,100
of architecture that spans

804
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:21,100
across the river. We also went

805
00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:23,100
to my place. It shows people

806
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:25,100
are investing in our area from

807
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,100
a hotel occupancy and it's the

808
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:28,100
first hotel in California

809
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:31,601
from my place. So it shows

810
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:33,100
people are investing

811
00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:36,100
from outside of our area

812
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,100
because they see the power of

813
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:40,100
tourism and they see the power

814
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:41,100
that people want to be able

815
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:42,100
to be invigorated when they

816
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:43,100
come to our area. The speeches

817
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:44,100
that they said they could have

818
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,100
picked anywhere in

819
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,100
California,

820
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:47,100
but they chose here. We saw

821
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,100
increase in revenue

822
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,100
from hotel stays. We did see a

823
00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:51,100
fluctuation

824
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:52,100
in short term rentals and a lot

825
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:53,100
of that's based

826
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:54,100
on the consumer mindset being

827
00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:55,100
in post Covid and they want

828
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,100
to stay in hotels, they want

829
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,100
to be able

830
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:58,100
to have their beds made instead

831
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,100
of going

832
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:01,100
to a place where they feel

833
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,100
like is at home and live

834
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:03,100
like a, like a resident

835
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:05,100
in that area,

836
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:07,100
they're just shifting

837
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,100
into hotels. So we're watching

838
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,100
trends overall and seeing that.

839
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:12,100
Sorry for the voice inflection

840
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,100
as you see here. You can see

841
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:16,100
our visitor snapshot for some

842
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:17,100
of the data that we have.

843
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:18,100
Sacramento is our number one

844
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:19,100
market. San Francisco as well.

845
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,100
And California is a big,

846
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,100
a big.

847
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,100
>> Market for us overall.

848
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,100
>> On here you're seeing the

849
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:34,100
numbers and based

850
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:35,100
on credit card data we look

851
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:36,100
at multiple different things

852
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:37,100
from analytics

853
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:38,100
from our website,

854
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,100
from geofencing

855
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:40,100
from the cell phones, but also

856
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,100
credit card data and who's

857
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,100
spending it and where they're

858
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,100
spending it. Visit California

859
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,100
came out with a, a study and it

860
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:46,100
shows every dollar

861
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:48,100
in marketing spent relates back

862
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:49,100
to $21 in visitor spend. We

863
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:51,100
understand that having a very

864
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:52,100
fruitful economy is important

865
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:55,601
to us. Outside of tot, we're

866
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,100
on the cutting edge. We

867
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:00,100
understand that influencers

868
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:04,100
have a stronger voice now than

869
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:06,100
they ever have had in the past

870
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:07,100
with different forms

871
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,100
of advertising. We were able

872
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,100
to bring

873
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:11,100
in seven different influencers,

874
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,100
increase our social media

875
00:29:12,100 --> 00:29:14,100
presence by up 13%. Being able

876
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:15,100
to get a 25,000 follower

877
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,100
followership on Instagram and

878
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:18,100
being able to reach more than

879
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,100
6,000 people throughout that

880
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:21,100
platform as well as nearly

881
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,100
40,000 people on Facebook. We

882
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,100
understand that they're

883
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,100
different markets and we

884
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:27,100
understand we need to market

885
00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:28,100
to people differently

886
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:29,100
across different platforms.

887
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,100
Overall, we understand what the

888
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,100
consumer wants. These were our

889
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:34,100
top posts. The drag strip.

890
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:37,601
People want to know those aha

891
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:39,100
moments and those historical

892
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:40,100
pieces from our area the

893
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,100
previous year and it was

894
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,100
about the Geosphere on i5.

895
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:45,100
This last year is about the,

896
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:48,100
about the racetrack. We also

897
00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,100
know that people want those

898
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,100
authentic moments that are

899
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:54,100
uniquely found in reading such

900
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,100
as the rodeo which you see

901
00:29:56,100 --> 00:29:57,100
through the 48,000 views and

902
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:58,100
reaching over 33,000 people

903
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,100
organically. Our top

904
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:02,100
collaboration posts. We

905
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,100
understand that we love our

906
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:05,100
area and we want to be able

907
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,100
to bring optimism

908
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:07,100
to our area and people

909
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,100
to feel invigorated after they

910
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:10,100
leave and so they can come back

911
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,100
and support us time and time

912
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:14,100
again, you see that with the

913
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:15,100
63,000 people who are watching

914
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:16,100
the mural that was donated

915
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,100
to our town to showcase that

916
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,100
positive message through

917
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:21,100
Steffi Lynn. And this is all

918
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:23,100
relationship building. She

919
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:25,100
could pick anywhere

920
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:26,100
in the world where she wanted

921
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:29,100
to donate a mural to.

922
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:30,100
But picking Reading

923
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,401
California. It shows something

924
00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:35,100
about our area. We're able to

925
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,100
have cornerstone campaigns such

926
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:39,401
as Perfect Vacation, funded

927
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,100
by Choose Reading Lodging. And

928
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,100
it showcased that we're more

929
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,100
than just a pit stop on i5.

930
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:45,100
We're a place that you can stay

931
00:30:45,100 --> 00:30:46,100
in multiple days and you can

932
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,100
come back to and do multiple

933
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:49,100
things once you come back as

934
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:50,100
well. There's no other place

935
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:51,100
like this. Shasta Lake

936
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:52,100
Whiskeytown, the caverns, the

937
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,100
dam, the river, the Sacramento

938
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:54,100
river and rail trail,

939
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,100
our downtown. We have it all

940
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:57,100
here. We're also able

941
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,100
to promote local events such as

942
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:00,100
Glowing Wild, Garden of

943
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:01,100
Lights, the rodeo,

944
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,100
and you can see those through

945
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:04,100
the different impressions

946
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:06,100
below. We also understand the

947
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:07,100
power of other people's voices

948
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,100
and their stronger platforms

949
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:10,100
outside of influencers. Public

950
00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,100
relations is huge for us. We

951
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:13,100
brought in and hosted over 20

952
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,401
writers articles were published

953
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,100
more than 57 times

954
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:20,100
with an audience reach of

955
00:31:20,100 --> 00:31:22,100
over 27 million people. These

956
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,100
are numbers that our team is

957
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:26,100
extremely proud of and we

958
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:28,100
couldn't do it alone. I want

959
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:29,100
to compliment my colleague,

960
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,100
Jennifer. She's amazing. I feel

961
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:33,100
like I'm getting emotional

962
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:34,100
because it's not just me up

963
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:35,100
here,

964
00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:36,100
like it's a whole team effort.

965
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:38,100
But you see that throughout

966
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:39,100
here with the Garden of lights

967
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,100
with adventure.com and Men's

968
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:41,100
Journal. These are publications

969
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:43,100
that you don't just get you

970
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,100
their relationship.

971
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,401
Relationship build. Having a

972
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,100
strong connection

973
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:50,100
with the city is awesome.

974
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,100
By turning the new scope

975
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,100
from tasks

976
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:53,100
into goals and being able to

977
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:54,100
see those goals and

978
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:55,100
strategically go after them.

979
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,100
We did have to adjust from

980
00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:58,100
losing PR that slide that we

981
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:00,100
just saw based

982
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:01,100
on those budget cuts. And we

983
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:03,100
want to make sure we can put

984
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:04,100
Redding in the most positive

985
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:06,100
light we possibly can

986
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,100
from a marketing agency switch.

987
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:10,100
We also had to do that by

988
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:13,100
losing our optimizer and going

989
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,100
into more of a tourism agency

990
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:16,100
marketing agency. We're

991
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,401
diversifying our platforms and

992
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:21,100
we want to be

993
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:23,100
on the cutting edge of this

994
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,100
with AI and. And

995
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:26,100
with those geo fencing. So like

996
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:28,100
checking people's cell phones

997
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:29,100
and knowing if they've came

998
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,100
to the area, if they visited,

999
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,100
how they've utilized our

1000
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:34,100
content and being able to make

1001
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,100
sure that we're getting more

1002
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,100
views from different areas. So

1003
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,100
that's where you see the road

1004
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:41,100
trippers icon, Azira click

1005
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:43,401
Trips, Google and etc.

1006
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,100
Overall, we can't do this

1007
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,100
alone. We want to be that

1008
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:50,100
positive light and positive

1009
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:51,100
megaphone. So you see things

1010
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:53,100
like the partnership with Ru,

1011
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,100
being able

1012
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:55,100
to paint the boxes downtown.

1013
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:57,100
Thank you, Nick. And your team

1014
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,100
able to host networking events

1015
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:00,100
not only to help us, but also

1016
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:02,401
help others create better

1017
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:04,100
content from pulling

1018
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,100
in attractions,

1019
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:06,100
creators and accommodations all

1020
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,100
in one area so they can thrive

1021
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:08,100
together. Being able

1022
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,100
to team up with the

1023
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:11,100
Historical Society for cultural

1024
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,100
sustainability and showcasing

1025
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,100
things like the Red and

1026
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:15,100
Regatta. Also teaming up and

1027
00:33:15,100 --> 00:33:17,100
showing beautification

1028
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:19,100
in our town with influencers

1029
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:21,100
painting a mural right across

1030
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,100
from Whistle Stop park to

1031
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100
highlight all the beautiful

1032
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,100
things

1033
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:26,100
in our area as a great backdrop

1034
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:27,100
for photos and to be able

1035
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,100
to highlight our history. Also

1036
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,100
working with the city and

1037
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,100
Multiple partners on Celebrate

1038
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,100
20 from the sundial Bridge. So

1039
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,401
ultimately, lake and that

1040
00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,100
bridge looked pretty darn cool.

1041
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,100
And then as you guys know

1042
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,100
from the collaboration,

1043
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,100
as mentioned earlier

1044
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,100
in the slide, I'm here

1045
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,100
for any questions, comments,

1046
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:49,100
concerns, but I just want

1047
00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,100
to thank you guys

1048
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:51,100
for giving me the opportunity

1049
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,100
to speak today. Thank you,

1050
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,100
Danny. No problem. Any

1051
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:57,100
questions? Just got one

1052
00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,100
question. I know we cut your

1053
00:33:58,100 --> 00:33:59,100
budget, which is painful

1054
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,100
to do being in business. I know

1055
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,100
the impact that when you cut

1056
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,100
money from marketing, sometimes

1057
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:06,100
you don't see the impact

1058
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:07,100
of that for a long time. But

1059
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,100
have we seen a downward trend

1060
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:11,100
in or are we just not quite at

1061
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:12,100
the point where we'll see the

1062
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,100
impacts of spending less money

1063
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:15,100
on marketing? Yeah, we've seen

1064
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:17,100
a slight downward trend right

1065
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:19,100
now. To answer your question,

1066
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,100
we are seeing a slight downward

1067
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,100
trend. A lot of this is going

1068
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,100
to be longer term. I mean,

1069
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,100
with cutting PR,

1070
00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,100
that's a huge megaphone. You

1071
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,100
saw Men's Journal,

1072
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,100
adventure.com, uSA Today.

1073
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:32,100
Those are articles that they

1074
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:33,100
cost money to be able

1075
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:35,100
to bring the people in

1076
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,100
to witness things firsthand.

1077
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,100
So marketing is the fuel

1078
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,100
for advertising. Sorry,

1079
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:42,100
marketing. Advertising is the

1080
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,100
fuel for sales. And we're

1081
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:45,100
selling our area. So the less

1082
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:46,100
money that we're putting

1083
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,100
into our gas tank, essentially

1084
00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:49,100
we're not going as far. So

1085
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:52,100
being able to, I would say,

1086
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,100
double down on helping us

1087
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:56,100
market because we can control

1088
00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:57,100
the narrative on how we're

1089
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,100
showcasing our city and

1090
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:00,100
enticing more people

1091
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:03,100
to come here. So. So I think

1092
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:04,100
marketing is extremely

1093
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,100
important.

1094
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,401
>> To answer your question.

1095
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,100
>> No problem. Anybody else?

1096
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:15,100
All right, thank you. Thank

1097
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:16,100
you, Danny. Thank you, guys.

1098
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:19,100
Thank you, Danny. All right.

1099
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:23,100
Tusi presentation by

1100
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,100
Christian Church Homes

1101
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:27,100
providing an update on past,

1102
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:28,100
present and future projects and

1103
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:29,100
activities in the city of

1104
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:30,100
Reading.

1105
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:32,100
>> Good evening.

1106
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,100
>> Thank you

1107
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,100
for the opportunity

1108
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,100
for me.

1109
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:49,100
>> To tell you about CCH

1110
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:50,100
Christian Church Homes.

1111
00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:51,100
>> We've been around for 64

1112
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:53,100
years.

1113
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:55,100
>> We have low income housing

1114
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:56,100
in seven.

1115
00:35:56,100 --> 00:35:57,100
>> States, managing or owning

1116
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:58,100
46 properties with.

1117
00:35:58,100 --> 00:35:59,100
>> 3,700 residents living

1118
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,100
at those properties.

1119
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:02,100
>> Our residents have an

1120
00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:03,100
average income of.

1121
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,100
>> 17,000 a year for 29

1122
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:08,100
of those years or of the for

1123
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:11,100
29 of the 64 years. We have

1124
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:13,100
been in partners with the City

1125
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:16,100
of Reading. We started our

1126
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,100
first Property back in 1996

1127
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,100
when we took over the Lorenz

1128
00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:22,100
Hotel.

1129
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:24,100
>> And I'm going to see if I.

1130
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:27,100
>> Can do this now because I've

1131
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:29,100
been given instructions.

1132
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,100
>> Well, there I did it.

1133
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,100
>> The Lorenz hotel built in

1134
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,100
191901. 100 room hotel with 78

1135
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,100
one bedroom and studios.

1136
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:43,100
>> We converted that over to

1137
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,100
78 apartments for low income.

1138
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:48,100
The city gave us some home

1139
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,100
funds with that.

1140
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:51,100
>> That project was 13.5

1141
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,100
million. We also made sure that

1142
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,100
the Lorenz was placed on the

1143
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,100
National Historical register.

1144
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:01,100
Our next venture was the

1145
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,100
Treehouse. We built a 62 unit

1146
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,100
low income senior apartment

1147
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:07,100
complex in 1997. That apartment

1148
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,100
building, the cost was about 4

1149
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:10,100
million. Again with the City

1150
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,601
of Reading home funds. Next we

1151
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,601
took over the Hotel Reading. I

1152
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:26,100
was approached by the city

1153
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,100
Reading Police Department back

1154
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,100
in those days and that was the

1155
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:33,100
Hotel Reading was built in

1156
00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:36,100
1921. A hold old hotel with

1157
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,100
100 units.

1158
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,601
>> They came to me in 1999 and

1159
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,100
said look,

1160
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,100
we're having a lot of.

1161
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:48,401
>> Police calls, a lot

1162
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,100
of criminal activity.

1163
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:55,601
>> Do you think CCH would come

1164
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:57,100
and.

1165
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:59,100
>> Help us with that?

1166
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:00,100
>> I said absolutely. We took

1167
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:01,100
it over in 1999.

1168
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,100
>> By 2002 we opened our doors

1169
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:03,100
for.

1170
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:04,100
>> 50 low income residents

1171
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:05,100
at a cost of 7.4 million.

1172
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:06,100
>> We operate the two oldest

1173
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:07,100
hotels in the City of Reading

1174
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:08,100
by offering low income housing

1175
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,100
in those buildings as well as

1176
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:10,100
12 commercial spaces that are

1177
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:12,100
for local businesses.

1178
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:17,100
>> Our latest venture is our

1179
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,100
newest crown.

1180
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,100
>> In jewel there, that's

1181
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,100
Piper Way. We just opened that

1182
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,100
with 50 seniors.

1183
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:26,100
>> We worked in conjunction

1184
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:27,100
with the First.

1185
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:29,100
>> Christian Church, the City

1186
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,100
of Reading Voucher program,

1187
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,100
Shasta County HHSA providing

1188
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:35,100
homes

1189
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:37,401
for six homeless individuals.

1190
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,100
The California Department for

1191
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:40,100
Developmentally Service, DDS,

1192
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:42,100
Far Northern Regional. We

1193
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:44,100
provided homes for nine

1194
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:46,100
developmentally disabled.

1195
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,100
>> Seniors at a cost of about

1196
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,100
33.8 million. Our average

1197
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,401
income there is $1,300 a.

1198
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,100
>> Month

1199
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,100
for our residents.

1200
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,100
>> They age average 70 to 81

1201
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,401
years old. We wanted

1202
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,401
to share this information

1203
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,100
with the city council to let

1204
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,100
you know how much we appreciate

1205
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,100
the partnering you have done

1206
00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:12,100
with us throughout these 29

1207
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,100
years.

1208
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,100
>> We have been able to house

1209
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:17,100
232.

1210
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:20,100
>> Low income housing students

1211
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,100
or Residents, sorry.

1212
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,100
>> Seniors that wouldn't have a

1213
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:25,100
home without that. We wanted

1214
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,100
to thank you for that.

1215
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:29,100
>> We wanted

1216
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,100
to let you know that.

1217
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,100
>> Without our partnership and

1218
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:34,100
providing the senior homes

1219
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,100
throughout this trip that we've

1220
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:39,100
made. Here's our balcony. We

1221
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,100
would not have been able

1222
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:44,100
to do this.

1223
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:46,100
>> We've added to the economy

1224
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:47,100
coming into.

1225
00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,100
>> Reading by hiring local

1226
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:50,100
construction people.

1227
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,100
>> We've added to the economy

1228
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,100
by our.

1229
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:57,100
>> Seniors shopping in the

1230
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,100
local stores.

1231
00:39:58,100 --> 00:39:59,100
>> So we encourage you

1232
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:00,100
to check out our website.

1233
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:01,100
>> We are CCH.org and

1234
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,100
to learn more.

1235
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,100
>> About the seven states that

1236
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:05,100
we have.

1237
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,100
>> The other facilities we have

1238
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:08,100
in the seven states. And I want

1239
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:11,100
to take an opportunity to also

1240
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:14,100
introduce the president and CEO

1241
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:16,100
of Christian Church Homes,

1242
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:17,100
Cynthia Alvarez. She drove up

1243
00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:18,100
from the Bay Area.

1244
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,100
>> Tonight just to be able

1245
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,100
to meet.

1246
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:21,100
>> The city council and

1247
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100
to show you our presence here.

1248
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:25,100
We have an open house on

1249
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:28,100
October 1st and we'd like

1250
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:30,100
to extend an invitation

1251
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,100
to have you come to the.

1252
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:33,100
>> Open house and see just

1253
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:35,100
exactly what.

1254
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,100
>> Our dollars have done

1255
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:37,100
in working

1256
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:40,100
with the city already. And my

1257
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:42,100
last slide,

1258
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,100
do you have any questions

1259
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,100
at all?

1260
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:46,100
>> What time is the open house?

1261
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:47,100
Is it 9:30 or 10?

1262
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,100
>> It is 10. It's October 1,

1263
00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:49,100
10 to 12.

1264
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,100
>> Okay, I'll be there.

1265
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:51,100
>> Our address is 3294 Piper

1266
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:53,100
Way.

1267
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:54,100
>> And we encourage you to come

1268
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:56,100
see what your dollars have

1269
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:57,100
done.

1270
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,100
>> Meet our seniors and hear

1271
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:01,100
some of their stories.

1272
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,100
>> They're incredible.

1273
00:41:02,100 --> 00:41:04,100
>> Do you have any more

1274
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:05,100
projects in sight?

1275
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,100
>> We're hoping to in

1276
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:08,100
Reading,

1277
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:09,100
but we have other projects.

1278
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:10,100
We're working on projects in

1279
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:11,100
Hayward right now.

1280
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:13,100
>> Chico, Tennessee.

1281
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,100
>> Sacramento.

1282
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:23,100
>> Yes, but Redding is my pride

1283
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:25,100
and.

1284
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,100
>> Joy because I live in

1285
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,100
Redding and I was fortunate

1286
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:28,100
enough to take the Lorenz.

1287
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:31,100
>> I'm going to tell you a

1288
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,100
quick brief story. I won't take

1289
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:34,100
up all your time.

1290
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,100
>> I walked into the Lorenz,

1291
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:38,100
quit a.

1292
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,100
>> Really high paying job

1293
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,100
down south, moved.

1294
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,100
>> Up here to Redding because

1295
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:47,100
it's so gorgeous.

1296
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:49,100
>> Walked into the Lorenz, they

1297
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:50,100
were looking.

1298
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:51,100
>> For an assistant community

1299
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:52,100
manager.

1300
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:53,100
>> I went to work for 18,000 a

1301
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,100
year 29 years ago,

1302
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:55,100
fell completely in.

1303
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:56,100
>> Love with the Lorenz and the

1304
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,100
city.

1305
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:00,100
>> Of Redding and said this is

1306
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:02,100
my place, this is where I

1307
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:03,100
belong. I was fortunate enough

1308
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,100
to be able to work

1309
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:07,100
with a company that allowed me

1310
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:08,100
to expand us here in the city

1311
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,100
of Reading with four sites. I

1312
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:11,100
like to do five and six or

1313
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:12,100
whatever.

1314
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:14,100
>> We need low income housing

1315
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:16,100
for seniors.

1316
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:17,100
>> Steve worked on my project

1317
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:19,100
at the hotel Reading as a very

1318
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:20,100
young man for the city of

1319
00:42:20,100 --> 00:42:21,100
Reading.

1320
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:22,100
>> He was the hard hat guy

1321
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:23,100
that.

1322
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,100
>> Came around and checked to

1323
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:26,100
make sure that we were doing

1324
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:27,100
prevailing wages with his

1325
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:30,100
clipboard and his hard hat.

1326
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,100
>> We have a long history

1327
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:33,100
with the city of Redding and I

1328
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:34,100
just wanted

1329
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:36,100
to thank the city council

1330
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:37,100
for always being there

1331
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:39,100
for us and the city.

1332
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:42,100
>> Of Redding for helping us

1333
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:44,100
with the fundings.

1334
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:45,100
>> Thank you. You're welcome.

1335
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,100
>> Thank you. Any other

1336
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:47,100
questions? No, Paul. I'll be

1337
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,100
there, though.

1338
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:49,100
>> Thank you so much.

1339
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,401
>> Thank you. All right,

1340
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:57,100
our last presentation

1341
00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:58,100
of the evening. Ryan

1342
00:42:58,100 --> 00:42:59,100
Richardson, executive director,

1343
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,100
Superior California Economic

1344
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:02,100
Development, providing an

1345
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:04,100
annual update on activities.

1346
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:07,601
Bye, Camille. Have a good day.

1347
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:12,100
>> Hello, my name is Ryan

1348
00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:20,100
Richardson. I'm the executive

1349
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:21,100
director of Superior

1350
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,100
California Economic

1351
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:23,100
Development. First,

1352
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,100
before we get into any

1353
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,100
of the updates, I want to talk

1354
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:28,100
about why collaboration

1355
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:29,100
matters. What do we do

1356
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:32,100
for an economy to be healthy

1357
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:35,601
in our area? And this is

1358
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:38,100
anywhere you need people,

1359
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:39,100
obviously that's our workforce.

1360
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:40,100
You need to have a community.

1361
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,100
That's the housing,

1362
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:43,100
that's the place making.

1363
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:45,100
That's what we were hearing

1364
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:46,100
about earlier,

1365
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:48,100
all these great things. And we

1366
00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:49,100
need to have jobs. That's where

1367
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:51,100
economic development comes

1368
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:53,100
into play as well. So these

1369
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:54,100
items, they have to be

1370
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,100
in balance. If you're out

1371
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:56,100
of balance, if you have a lot

1372
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:57,100
of jobs and no housing,

1373
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,100
that creates an issue. If you

1374
00:43:58,100 --> 00:43:59,100
have a lot of people

1375
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,100
with good housing, no jobs,

1376
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:03,100
that creates an issue as well.

1377
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:05,100
So that gets back

1378
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,601
to why we were created. So

1379
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,100
knowing that economic

1380
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:14,100
challenges don't stop

1381
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:16,100
at the city or county lines,

1382
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:19,100
the four counties, along with

1383
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:21,100
Reading, Anderson and Shasta

1384
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:22,100
Lake, created sced

1385
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:23,100
to become an Economic

1386
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:24,100
Development administration

1387
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:25,100
economic development district

1388
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:27,100
in 1979. So we're managed

1389
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,100
by a 17 member board

1390
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,100
of directors and we have a

1391
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:32,100
staff of four. And Steve's one

1392
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,100
of our boards of directors.

1393
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:36,100
He's on the board. Some

1394
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:39,100
of the things when I go present

1395
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:40,100
at different conferences or

1396
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:41,100
different webinars,

1397
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:43,100
people don't know where

1398
00:44:43,100 --> 00:44:44,100
Northern California is. So

1399
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:45,100
usually toss in a couple

1400
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,100
of pictures, show a lake,

1401
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:48,100
show some mountains. So we're

1402
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:50,100
not Southern California. One of

1403
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:52,100
the really things people don't

1404
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:54,100
understand is the scope of,

1405
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:55,100
of how big our area is. So the

1406
00:44:55,100 --> 00:44:56,100
four counties that I covered,

1407
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,100
basically the same size as

1408
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:58,100
New Hampshire and Vermont

1409
00:44:58,100 --> 00:44:59,100
combined with a population of

1410
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:01,100
250,000 people. And most

1411
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:03,100
everybody lives

1412
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:05,100
along the i5 corridor. So I

1413
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:06,100
tell if you go either east or

1414
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:08,100
west, you're going

1415
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:10,100
to get very rural very fast.

1416
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,100
So it's very fun to. And that's

1417
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,100
one of the benefits

1418
00:45:13,100 --> 00:45:14,100
of my job, is I get

1419
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,100
to travel a lot and see a lot

1420
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,100
of beautiful places.

1421
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:22,100
With that backdrop, here are

1422
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:23,100
the four priorities that guide

1423
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,100
everything we do at sced.

1424
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:26,100
That's kind

1425
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:27,100
of fancy language. So I'm going

1426
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:28,100
to keep it a little bit more

1427
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:29,100
simple. We make loans

1428
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,100
to small businesses. That's our

1429
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,100
most forward facing thing that

1430
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:33,100
we have with the public. We

1431
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:34,100
write and update the

1432
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,100
Comprehensive Economic

1433
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:36,100
Development Strategy

1434
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:38,100
for the region. That's a

1435
00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:40,401
strategy that the Economic

1436
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:43,100
Development Administration has.

1437
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:44,100
You need to have that in order

1438
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:45,100
to get EDA funds. We find

1439
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,100
grants to do projects that

1440
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,100
support the SEDs. So that's a

1441
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:51,100
part

1442
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:52,100
of my job too where I'll go

1443
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,100
out and we have to figure out

1444
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:55,100
where can we get different

1445
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:56,100
grants, whether it be federal

1446
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:57,100
grants, be it

1447
00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:58,100
from our state partner,

1448
00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:59,100
will it be

1449
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:00,100
from private as well? And then

1450
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:01,100
we have internal metrics as

1451
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:02,100
well. How are we doing as an

1452
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:03,100
organization? Can we be

1453
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:05,100
sustainable? That's one

1454
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:06,100
of the nice things

1455
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:08,100
about our nonprofit, our

1456
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:10,100
organization is that we do

1457
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:12,100
generate unrestricted funds as

1458
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,100
well. So it gives us a little

1459
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:15,100
more stability than what we see

1460
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,100
in some

1461
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:18,100
of our other agencies. This

1462
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:21,100
question comes up a lot.

1463
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:24,100
Aren't you the chassis EDC

1464
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:25,100
doesn't come up as much now

1465
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,100
that Todd's not there because

1466
00:46:27,100 --> 00:46:29,100
you know, we were both guys.

1467
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:31,100
He's much younger. So my hair

1468
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,100
is much darker, but it used

1469
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:35,100
to be much grayer. It must be

1470
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:36,100
the old days. I was a little

1471
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:37,100
nicer hair. But that happens.

1472
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:39,100
But if you look

1473
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:41,100
at the service area,

1474
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:42,100
I never get to use a point.

1475
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:44,100
Oh, wow. That's cool. What?

1476
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:48,201
Oh. Now how do I get rid

1477
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:54,401
of it? All right,

1478
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:56,100
so we're gonna leave that there

1479
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:58,100
for a while. So on the SCED

1480
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:00,100
for our regional. We're a

1481
00:47:00,100 --> 00:47:02,100
region. We cover four different

1482
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:05,601
counties and then we're also a

1483
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:08,100
statewide certified development

1484
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:11,100
company. So we can make certain

1485
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:12,100
SBA loans throughout all of

1486
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:13,100
California. The Shasta edc,

1487
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:14,100
they focus on a local Shasta

1488
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:15,100
County. We have different

1489
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:16,100
functions. We also have

1490
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:17,100
different funding areas. So the

1491
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,100
International Economic

1492
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:19,100
Development Council says There

1493
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:20,100
are basically 10 different

1494
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:21,100
pillars

1495
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:22,100
of economic development. Very

1496
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:24,100
few organizations do all 10

1497
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:25,100
of them. It just doesn't work

1498
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:27,100
that way because you have

1499
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:28,100
to specialize. We do a couple.

1500
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:29,100
The Shasta EDC does a couple.

1501
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:30,100
We're not in competition where

1502
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:31,100
we are collaboration. We do

1503
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:32,100
have different areas. We're

1504
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:33,100
complementary. What we've done

1505
00:47:33,100 --> 00:47:34,100
a lot recently. We're starting

1506
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:36,401
to really collaborate and

1507
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,100
that's one

1508
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:40,100
of the things we've seen in

1509
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:41,100
economic development throughout

1510
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:42,100
the last couple of years. It's

1511
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:43,100
been our trend

1512
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,100
of collaboration. So we've been

1513
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:46,100
able to collaborate

1514
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:47,100
on projects that align with our

1515
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,100
SIDS and the chassis EDCs

1516
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:50,100
expansion and attraction plans.

1517
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,100
So we're looking

1518
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:54,100
at infrastructure projects in

1519
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:55,100
south county as well as the BDO

1520
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,100
zone application. Of course,

1521
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:58,100
none

1522
00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:01,601
of this work is done alone.

1523
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:04,100
Each

1524
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,100
of our partners fills a role.

1525
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:08,100
So again, I toss the logos

1526
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:10,100
on there to show how many

1527
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:11,100
things we have going on. We're

1528
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,100
able to work with a bunch

1529
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:14,100
of different agencies. So

1530
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,100
on the planning side, EDA and

1531
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:17,100
local jurisdictions help fund

1532
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:19,100
that. On the lending side,

1533
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:21,100
the Economic Development

1534
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,100
Administration, the Small

1535
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,100
Business Administration, the

1536
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:26,100
USDA and private funds help us

1537
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,100
with make loans or give us

1538
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:31,100
funds for loans. And then

1539
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:32,100
on grant projects, again, same

1540
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:34,100
of the usual suspects. Eda,

1541
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:36,100
usda. We received state funds

1542
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,100
through the California Jobs

1543
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:40,100
First. We're excited

1544
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:42,100
about them getting

1545
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:43,100
into economic development.

1546
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,100
Wells Fargo and US bank have

1547
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:46,100
also been big supporters

1548
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:47,100
on our grant side. And then our

1549
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:49,100
bank partners,

1550
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:52,100
we can't forget them. They're

1551
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:53,100
where we get our referrals

1552
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,100
from

1553
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:56,100
for our lending program. 60%

1554
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:57,100
of all of our revenue

1555
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:58,100
at SCED is

1556
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,100
from our lending programs. So

1557
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:01,100
it's really exciting. I want

1558
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:02,100
to make sure they get a shout

1559
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:04,100
out and how much we appreciate

1560
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:05,100
their work as well.

1561
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,100
Through the California

1562
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:08,100
Reinvestment act,

1563
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:09,100
they also give unrestricted

1564
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:10,100
contributions, which

1565
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,100
for a nonprofit,

1566
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:13,100
those help a lot. And Wells

1567
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,100
Fargo and U.S. bank or Wells

1568
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:17,100
Fargo is also really good

1569
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:18,100
about giving us grants

1570
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:19,100
for a purpose. So the

1571
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,100
restricted grants. So we

1572
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:24,100
actually do so once again

1573
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,100
to review three things. So

1574
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:28,100
number one,

1575
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,100
we put together the

1576
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,100
Comprehensive Economic

1577
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:33,100
Development Strategy. That's

1578
00:49:33,100 --> 00:49:35,100
the main thing that we do

1579
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:36,100
with our Economic Development

1580
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:38,100
Administration Partnership

1581
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:40,100
Planning Grant. We do small

1582
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:43,100
business lending that is huge

1583
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:44,100
for us. We're able

1584
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:46,100
to help a lot

1585
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:47,100
of different businesses. We

1586
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:48,100
help with gap financing, so

1587
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:49,100
rarely are we making the

1588
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:51,100
investment ourselves. We're

1589
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:53,100
usually working with a bank

1590
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:54,100
where the business owner isn't

1591
00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:55,100
quite ready

1592
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:56,100
to get totally financed

1593
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:57,100
by the bank. We can step

1594
00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:58,100
in there. We're

1595
00:49:58,100 --> 00:49:59,100
like miracle grow. We help.

1596
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:00,100
They're going

1597
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,100
to get there eventually. We

1598
00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:03,100
just help them get there a

1599
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:04,100
little bit faster through that

1600
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:06,100
lending project and then the

1601
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:07,100
economic development projects.

1602
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:08,100
This is something we've really

1603
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:10,100
got into the last three years

1604
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:11,100
since I took

1605
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:12,100
over the executive director,

1606
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:13,100
finding different ways

1607
00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:16,100
to push the goals that are

1608
00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:18,100
in our Comprehensive Economic

1609
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:19,100
Development Strategy. EDA gives

1610
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,100
us funds

1611
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:22,100
to create the strategy,

1612
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,100
but no money

1613
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:25,100
for implementation. So you have

1614
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:26,100
to work with your partners,

1615
00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:27,100
you have to be creative,

1616
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:28,100
find different ways

1617
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:31,100
to get those projects rolling.

1618
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:33,100
So more than just a plan, our

1619
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:34,100
SEDS actually delivers results.

1620
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:36,100
So again, in order

1621
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:37,100
to get EDA funds, you have

1622
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:38,100
to have a roadmap there. And

1623
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:41,100
that's what the SEDS document

1624
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:42,100
does. So here are a couple

1625
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:43,100
of projects that were sent

1626
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,100
for application. Hopefully you

1627
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,100
recognize both of them. One was

1628
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,100
for the Stillwater Business

1629
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:50,100
park extension. Steve and

1630
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:51,100
Jason did a great job

1631
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:53,100
on putting that together.

1632
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:54,100
Your City of Reading staff are

1633
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:56,100
amazing at doing that work.

1634
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:58,100
And then Simpson University as

1635
00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:00,100
well applied for a project.

1636
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:01,100
And that was kind

1637
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,100
of fun because every time I

1638
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:04,100
talk to somebody, they go, do

1639
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:05,100
you think EDA funds could do

1640
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:06,100
this? And I'm like,

1641
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:08,100
I don't know. So we call our

1642
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,100
EDA rep and he goes, oh, sure,

1643
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,100
we can do that. Like, really?

1644
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:11,100
Because I didn't think some

1645
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:12,100
of the projects we work

1646
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:13,100
on are eligible.

1647
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,100
But it does work, and it's

1648
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:16,100
pretty exciting when it does.

1649
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:19,601
So long time planning. One of

1650
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,100
the most visible ways we make

1651
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:25,100
an impact is supporting small

1652
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:26,100
business with access

1653
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,100
to capital. So you can see

1654
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:29,100
we've made a lot

1655
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:30,100
of loans. I've been with SKED

1656
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:32,100
for 20 years. 17 years as the

1657
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,401
loan program manager, three

1658
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:37,100
years as executive director.

1659
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:38,100
So a lot of those 580 loans

1660
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,100
made were mine. So I take a lot

1661
00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,100
of pride

1662
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:43,100
in what we've been able to do

1663
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:44,100
in the area. My poor kids,

1664
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,100
when they were little,

1665
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:47,100
we'd drive around town or we'd

1666
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,100
be going somewhere. I'm like,

1667
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:50,100
hey, that's one

1668
00:51:50,100 --> 00:51:51,100
of our things. That was a

1669
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:52,100
project we did. That was a

1670
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:53,100
project we did. I like

1671
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:54,100
to say my son's one of the best

1672
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:55,100
economic developers. He's in

1673
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:57,100
Korea right now in the Air

1674
00:51:57,100 --> 00:51:58,100
Force. But after listening

1675
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:00,100
to me on so many road trips

1676
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:02,100
for soccer, he learned a lot

1677
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,100
about what we're doing as well.

1678
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:06,100
Last year, we made 1.9 million

1679
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:08,100
in loans. 1.1 million

1680
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:11,100
of that was in Reading. And

1681
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:13,401
with those Reading loans,

1682
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:15,100
we leveraged an additional 3.3

1683
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:16,100
million. So that impact is 4.4

1684
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:18,100
million on there. Last year,

1685
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:20,100
the city invested $27,000

1686
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:23,100
with us. So that return

1687
00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:26,100
on investment on just that

1688
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:27,100
piece is pretty huge. You toss

1689
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,100
in what we're looking at

1690
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:29,100
for those EDA grants. It's even

1691
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:31,100
larger this year because EDA

1692
00:52:31,100 --> 00:52:33,100
changed the grant requirement.

1693
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,100
It actually went down to

1694
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:39,100
18,000. So it's quite a bit of

1695
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,100
a savings that the city will be

1696
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:41,100
seeing there. And one thing,

1697
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,100
I'll try this again.

1698
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:44,401
>> Because it's really cool.

1699
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,100
>> We don't create. Darn it,

1700
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:52,100
again,

1701
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:53,100
we don't create the jobs. The

1702
00:52:53,100 --> 00:52:54,100
entrepreneurs create the jobs.

1703
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:55,100
So these are all people that

1704
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:56,100
have received loans from us.

1705
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,100
You can see, hopefully maybe a

1706
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:59,100
face or two that you recognize.

1707
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:01,100
Those are the people that

1708
00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:03,100
actually making the impact. So

1709
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:04,100
it's fun to see them succeed.

1710
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,100
And beyond our daily work,

1711
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:10,100
we're also launching

1712
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,100
initiatives that build upon our

1713
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:14,100
region's unique strengths. So

1714
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,401
Outdoor Recreation was one

1715
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:18,100
of the California Jobs First

1716
00:53:18,100 --> 00:53:20,100
Catalyst Fund grants that we

1717
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:21,100
received. We're partnering

1718
00:53:21,100 --> 00:53:23,100
with siskiyec on that. So we

1719
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:25,100
have a micro loan component.

1720
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:27,100
Siskiyou EDC is handling an

1721
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,100
educational component. And this

1722
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,100
is for our whole district, all

1723
00:53:31,100 --> 00:53:32,100
four counties that we cover.

1724
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:34,100
The MODOC meet again,

1725
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:36,401
that was another California

1726
00:53:37,100 --> 00:53:38,100
jumps first. We were able

1727
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:41,100
to get money from that. That's

1728
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:42,100
a Modoc county specific

1729
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:43,100
project.

1730
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:44,100
But anything that we do in

1731
00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:45,100
these other counties really

1732
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:46,100
benefits Shasta county

1733
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:48,100
specifically writing because

1734
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:49,100
this is the hub for economic

1735
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,100
development activity. And so

1736
00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:52,100
what we look at

1737
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:54,100
for that we're trying to market

1738
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,100
processing plant up there. We

1739
00:53:56,100 --> 00:54:00,201
got a USDA grant a couple years

1740
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:02,100
ago that said, yeah,

1741
00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:03,100
it's feasible. And now we're

1742
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:05,100
trying to find someone

1743
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:06,100
to pick that up and

1744
00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:08,100
to do a processing plant. The

1745
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:10,100
BDO zone, that's a biofuel

1746
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:12,100
development opportunity zone.

1747
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:13,100
And this was really cool

1748
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,100
because Rebecca from Chassis

1749
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:17,100
EDC came over and said, hey,

1750
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,100
I want to do this. It fits

1751
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:22,100
into our plan with biomass.

1752
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:24,100
And I think this is a good

1753
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:25,100
opportunity. But we don't have

1754
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:26,100
grant capacity because most of

1755
00:54:26,100 --> 00:54:28,100
the people that get these

1756
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,100
grants get it through usda.

1757
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,100
That's what we do all day long.

1758
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:32,100
We're able

1759
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:34,100
to merge or collaborate

1760
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:35,100
on this. I was able

1761
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:37,100
to help her. This is a project

1762
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:38,100
that we'll be working on

1763
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:40,100
in the fall. And then the

1764
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:41,100
Wells Fargo projects. We just

1765
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:43,100
put the application in

1766
00:54:43,100 --> 00:54:44,100
for this and we talk

1767
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:46,100
about how we do regional. And

1768
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:48,100
this is actually a super

1769
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:50,100
regional project because we

1770
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:51,100
work with other economic

1771
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:52,100
development districts in far

1772
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,100
Northern California. That's the

1773
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:55,100
California Finance

1774
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:56,100
Consortium. And we're going to

1775
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,100
do a rural downtown

1776
00:54:58,100 --> 00:54:59,100
revitalization playbook. Right

1777
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:01,100
now, a lot of our rural

1778
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:02,100
communities are struggling.

1779
00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,100
They're transitioning

1780
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,100
from resource distraction

1781
00:55:06,100 --> 00:55:08,100
to what's next

1782
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:10,100
in the economy. We all like

1783
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:11,100
to say our areas are beautiful,

1784
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:13,100
but so are a lot

1785
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:14,100
of other places. How do we.

1786
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:16,100
What's going to go

1787
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:17,100
into these empty buildings?

1788
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:18,100
What are going on? These

1789
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:20,100
storefronts? That's what we're

1790
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:22,100
looking for with this.

1791
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,100
In addition, that grant also

1792
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,100
covers a collaboration that

1793
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:28,100
we're doing with Shasta

1794
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:29,100
College

1795
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:31,401
on entrepreneurial boot camps.

1796
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:33,100
We'll do one in each

1797
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:34,100
of the four counties. It's

1798
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:36,100
replicating a project they did

1799
00:55:36,100 --> 00:55:38,100
down to Tehama county is

1800
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:40,100
extremely successful. We're

1801
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:41,100
going to bring it up here and

1802
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:42,100
then we have loan readiness

1803
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:44,100
Technical assistance that will

1804
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:46,100
also be funded

1805
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:51,100
through that grant. So

1806
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:54,601
hopefully in the next few weeks

1807
00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:56,100
we'll get that one approved.

1808
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:57,100
Of course,

1809
00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:58,100
every opportunity comes

1810
00:55:58,100 --> 00:55:59,100
with challenges,

1811
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:00,100
and here are some that, you

1812
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,100
know, we're watching for us.

1813
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:02,100
Since we're funded

1814
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:03,100
through the Economic

1815
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:04,100
Development Administration, we

1816
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,100
get some USDA funds, the

1817
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:06,100
Small Business

1818
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,100
Administration, those are all

1819
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:08,100
federal programs. And the

1820
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:09,100
federal programs have been

1821
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:10,100
in flux this year. It's been a

1822
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,100
challenging environment trying

1823
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,100
to figure out what's going

1824
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:14,100
to be available, what's not.

1825
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:15,100
So we're looking forward

1826
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:16,100
to the budget coming

1827
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:19,100
out and figuring out, okay,

1828
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:23,100
this is exactly what we're

1829
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:25,100
going to do. As I talked about,

1830
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,100
rural communities are

1831
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,401
struggling, trying to figure

1832
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:33,100
out what can we do

1833
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:36,100
to help them, what's available,

1834
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:39,100
what, what business can we get

1835
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,100
to go in there? That's going to

1836
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:42,100
be a challenge that we're going

1837
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:43,100
to look at in the next couple

1838
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:45,100
of years. But

1839
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:46,100
on the opportunity side, the

1840
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:47,100
continued collaboration has

1841
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:48,100
been nice. I'm the kind

1842
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,100
of person, it's much easier

1843
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:50,100
to do it by yourself. And so

1844
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:51,100
now working with different

1845
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,100
organization has been really

1846
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,100
interesting, working

1847
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:54,100
on my skill set.

1848
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:55,100
But we're starting

1849
00:56:55,100 --> 00:56:56,100
to see how it pays dividends.

1850
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:57,100
So we're not replicating

1851
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:58,100
anything. We're enhancing each

1852
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:01,100
other. And that's been kind

1853
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:02,100
of fun to work on as well.

1854
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:04,100
On the lending side,

1855
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:05,100
we're going to EDA

1856
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,100
for more money. We have a 92%

1857
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:08,100
utilization rate,

1858
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:09,100
which means the $9 million I

1859
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,100
have

1860
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:13,100
in revolving loan funds is out

1861
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:14,100
in the community. There's no.

1862
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:15,100
It doesn't replicate

1863
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:16,100
until I get paid back. So we're

1864
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:17,100
trying to. We could loan

1865
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,100
out as much as we have. That's

1866
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:19,100
one

1867
00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:20,100
of the issues that we're trying

1868
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:21,100
to get more money so we can

1869
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:22,100
help more entrepreneurs. And

1870
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:23,100
then, probably most excitingly,

1871
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:24,100
is the opportunity for our

1872
00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:25,100
comprehensive economic

1873
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:26,100
development strategy update.

1874
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:27,100
So it updates every five years?

1875
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:28,100
Well, we do a full rewrite

1876
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:30,100
every five years. Annually we

1877
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:34,100
update it. So the next new one

1878
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:36,100
will be 2027. So we start

1879
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:39,100
writing it next year. Very

1880
00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:41,100
exciting. Will be the first one

1881
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:42,100
that I'm the executive director

1882
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:43,100
on where we get

1883
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:45,100
to put my stamp on it. It's

1884
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:47,100
changed. Ed has changed

1885
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:48,100
requirements

1886
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:49,100
over the last few years. It

1887
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:51,100
went from this big old thick

1888
00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:52,100
document that nobody read.

1889
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:53,100
They show them as doorstops

1890
00:57:53,100 --> 00:57:54,100
on some of our trainings. Now

1891
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,100
it's a much more interactive

1892
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,100
document where we're using it.

1893
00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:59,100
That's one of the goals,

1894
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,100
is try

1895
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:01,100
to make sure everybody knows

1896
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:02,100
about it, how we can use it and

1897
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:05,100
how it can bring additional

1898
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:06,100
funds into the area. And that's

1899
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:07,100
why SCED exists. You know,

1900
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:08,100
we're here to help reading

1901
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:09,100
in the region, navigate

1902
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:11,100
challenges and seize

1903
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:12,100
opportunities on the economic

1904
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:14,100
development side. Any

1905
00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:16,100
questions?

1906
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:24,100
>> Have to read the thing

1907
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:28,100
first. Oh, this item. Okay.

1908
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:34,100
All right. Nick Garner. I

1909
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:36,100
didn't intend to comment on

1910
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,100
this.

1911
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,100
>> I pushed the wrong button.

1912
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:42,100
>> Okay. All right,

1913
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:44,100
thank you. All right,

1914
00:58:44,100 --> 00:58:47,100
moving on. Public comment. The

1915
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:52,100
city council will allocate up

1916
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:53,100
to a maximum of 3 minutes per

1917
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,100
speaker for 30 minutes total

1918
00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:57,100
at the beginning

1919
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:58,100
of the meeting

1920
00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:59,100
for public comment

1921
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:00,100
for non agendized matters

1922
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:01,100
within the city's jurisdiction,

1923
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:03,100
the mayor will determine the

1924
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:04,100
order of speakers. If 30

1925
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:05,100
minutes is not adequate

1926
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:06,100
to accommodate all of the

1927
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,100
individuals who have submitted

1928
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:08,100
their name

1929
00:59:08,100 --> 00:59:10,100
through the electronic kiosk,

1930
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:11,100
the council will trail this

1931
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:13,100
item to the end

1932
00:59:13,100 --> 00:59:14,100
of the open session agenda.

1933
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:15,100
The remaining speakers will

1934
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:17,100
address the city council

1935
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:20,100
at that time. All right,

1936
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:21,100
Steve, you're up. Leslie, you

1937
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,100
can be next.

1938
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:50,100
>> Good evening again,

1939
00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:52,100
Councilwoman Adet. You're a

1940
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:54,100
very skilled individual.

1941
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:55,100
>> I believe you have a degree

1942
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:56,100
in political science. Don't

1943
00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:59,100
you? Or didn't you teach

1944
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:00,100
political science at Bethel?

1945
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:02,100
But your skills are being used

1946
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:03,100
in a horrible way. You are

1947
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:05,100
manipulating people with

1948
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:08,100
partial information and

1949
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:09,100
misinformation in order

1950
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:11,100
to capitalize on. On the

1951
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:12,100
feeling that so many people

1952
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,100
have that government is

1953
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:16,100
corrupt, that we pay too much

1954
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:17,100
in taxes,

1955
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:18,100
that government employees are

1956
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:19,100
out for themselves and not out

1957
01:00:19,100 --> 01:00:21,100
for the people. This is a

1958
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:23,100
common belief to start with.

1959
01:00:23,100 --> 01:00:24,100
But you are harvesting that

1960
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:27,100
belief. You are undermining our

1961
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:29,100
city government and our city

1962
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:31,100
employees,

1963
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:33,100
supposedly because you suspect,

1964
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:34,100
because you think something's

1965
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,100
wrong, not because you have

1966
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:37,100
facts that you can throw up

1967
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:39,100
here and say there is

1968
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:41,100
corruption. No, it's your

1969
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:43,100
feelings. It's what you think

1970
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:45,100
might be happening.

1971
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:47,100
>> You've been making

1972
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:48,100
implications that employees

1973
01:00:48,100 --> 01:00:49,100
are.

1974
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:50,100
>> Hiding things from you or

1975
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:51,100
not giving you the information

1976
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:53,100
that you want. You've been

1977
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:54,100
given the information and you

1978
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:57,100
simply don't believe it or

1979
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:58,100
ignore it. I don't know for

1980
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:00,100
sure why you're doing what

1981
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:01,100
you're doing,

1982
01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:03,100
but I suspect it has to do

1983
01:01:03,100 --> 01:01:04,100
with you running

1984
01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:05,100
for some state office. With the

1985
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:07,100
videos you've been posting

1986
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:09,100
on social media,

1987
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:10,100
it's clear you're trying

1988
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:11,100
to position yourself for

1989
01:01:11,100 --> 01:01:13,100
further political ambitions.

1990
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:14,100
Perhaps state board

1991
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:16,100
of equalization or something.

1992
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:17,100
But what you are doing is not

1993
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:19,100
in the best interest

1994
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:21,100
of the city of Reading. You

1995
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:24,100
even stated with a smirk

1996
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:25,100
on your face that

1997
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:27,100
after the first of the year,

1998
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,100
if this sales tax does not

1999
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:30,100
pass, many things are going

2000
01:01:30,100 --> 01:01:32,100
to be hurt drastically. That is

2001
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:35,100
true. By undermining this sales

2002
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:37,100
tax you are going

2003
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:38,100
to cause many negative impacts

2004
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:40,100
to the city of Reading.

2005
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:42,100
Without extra money, I believe

2006
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:43,100
our civic auditorium will

2007
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,100
close. The ball field will end

2008
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:47,100
up continuing to deteriorate. I

2009
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:48,100
doubt the soccer field will be

2010
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:50,100
able to continue to stay open

2011
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:51,100
for any length of time. Our

2012
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:53,100
roads will continue to

2013
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:54,100
deteriorate and they have

2014
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:56,100
nothing to do with the

2015
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:58,100
allegations you're making. The

2016
01:01:58,100 --> 01:01:59,100
roads would receive 30% of the

2017
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:01,100
tax revenues and the other

2018
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:02,100
monies come

2019
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:04,100
from the road tax.

2020
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:06,100
>> The city of Reading is only

2021
01:02:06,100 --> 01:02:07,100
>> Pass through entity when it

2022
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:09,100
comes to roads. There is no way

2023
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:10,100
the city of.

2024
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:12,100
>> Reading can move that

2025
01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:13,100
spending elsewhere. Yet you're

2026
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:15,100
doing.

2027
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:16,100
>> You're undermining the set

2028
01:02:16,100 --> 01:02:17,100
by undermining the sales tax.

2029
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:19,100
You will guarantee that our

2030
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:20,100
roads continue to deteriorate

2031
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:21,100
because the state doesn't give

2032
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:23,100
us enough money

2033
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:24,100
to maintain them properly.

2034
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:25,100
Yes, Adet, you are the

2035
01:02:25,100 --> 01:02:27,100
destroyer

2036
01:02:27,100 --> 01:02:29,100
of cities. I'll leave it at

2037
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:31,100
that. I've got a lot more. I

2038
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:33,100
will continue

2039
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:36,100
on the next time. All right,

2040
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:37,100
thanks, Steve. Leslie, Lance

2041
01:02:37,100 --> 01:02:40,601
Law, you're on deck. Have my

2042
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:48,100
shadow with me today.

2043
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:51,100
>> Oh, you want to stand

2044
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:54,100
on there? I feel 112% opposite

2045
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:59,100
of everything Steve just said.

2046
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:01,100
>> Thank you for standing

2047
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:03,100
on principle.

2048
01:03:04,100 --> 01:03:05,100
>> Thank you for every time you

2049
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:07,100
sat.

2050
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:09,100
>> In here and tried to ask a.

2051
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,100
>> Question and Mayor Mutton

2052
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:12,100
shut you down.

2053
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:14,100
>> Because he wants this

2054
01:03:14,100 --> 01:03:15,100
meeting to only.

2055
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:16,100
>> Last an hour or the rest of.

2056
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:18,100
>> The council shut you down

2057
01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:20,100
because they love the facts

2058
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,401
that they've been managed.

2059
01:03:25,100 --> 01:03:27,100
>> By this table over here. I

2060
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:28,100
am really hoping you are not a

2061
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:30,100
continuance of that.

2062
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:35,100
>> So far we've had positive

2063
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,100
interactions. I hope that

2064
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:38,100
continues. But this council,

2065
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:39,100
the previous council was

2066
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:40,100
managed by the city manager and

2067
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:41,100
that is not how this works.

2068
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:42,100
>> So thank you for standing

2069
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,100
on principle.

2070
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:45,100
>> Thank you again. I've said

2071
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:46,100
it

2072
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:47,100
before and I will say it again.

2073
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:49,100
Thank you for coming forward

2074
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,100
and apologizing for the times

2075
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:54,100
that you were wrong and

2076
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:56,100
standing up and taking that.

2077
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:57,100
Everything you have done would

2078
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,100
hurt any political aspiration

2079
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,100
that you have. Yet you have

2080
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,100
stuck your head out.

2081
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:04,100
>> And your neck out

2082
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,100
for us because.

2083
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:07,100
>> You are doing the right

2084
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:09,100
thing and standing

2085
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:12,100
on principle. Sorry, you were

2086
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:13,100
right.

2087
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:15,100
>> I did not put in for that

2088
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:16,100
first comment because I thought

2089
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:19,100
if there is nothing nice

2090
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:21,100
to say, it's better not

2091
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:23,100
to say anything at all. So I

2092
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:25,100
only put him

2093
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:27,100
for public comment.

2094
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:29,100
>> What I will say is when

2095
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:30,100
somebody shows you who they

2096
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:32,100
are, believe it.

2097
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,100
>> Tanessa sat there,

2098
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:36,401
had nothing nice to.

2099
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:38,100
>> Say, so she didn't say

2100
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:39,100
anything at all.

2101
01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:41,100
>> Barry, however, gave a very

2102
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:43,100
disgusting display.

2103
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:45,100
>> Of who he is.

2104
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:46,100
>> So thank you

2105
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:47,100
for having class. Thank you

2106
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:48,100
for having our backs,

2107
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:49,100
and thank you for standing up

2108
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:50,100
when no one else will.

2109
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:51,100
>> Lance Law and Janet

2110
01:04:51,100 --> 01:04:53,100
Chapman, you're

2111
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:02,100
after him.

2112
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:03,100
>> Hi.

2113
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:04,100
>> I live in Crown Estates and

2114
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:05,100
have Clear Creek

2115
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:07,100
along the back

2116
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:08,100
of my property. There's a

2117
01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:09,100
neighborhood there, and there's

2118
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:10,100
probably a dozen houses that

2119
01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:12,100
line the creek. We're

2120
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:14,100
on the south side

2121
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:15,100
of the creek,

2122
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:16,100
on the north side, or, excuse

2123
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:17,100
me, we're on the north side

2124
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:18,100
of the creek,

2125
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:19,100
on the south side

2126
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:21,100
of the creek. It's pretty

2127
01:05:21,100 --> 01:05:23,100
common for homeless people

2128
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:24,100
to be camped back there.

2129
01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:26,100
There's kind

2130
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,100
of a typical cycle. They get

2131
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:30,100
in there, they camp.

2132
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:31,100
In the wintertime, the creek

2133
01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:33,100
floods, it floods

2134
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:35,401
out the camp, sort

2135
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:39,100
of washes all the debris

2136
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:43,100
from the camps

2137
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:46,100
into the creek and eventually

2138
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:50,100
into the river. It makes a

2139
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:52,100
pretty big mess. It's something

2140
01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,100
we've kind of

2141
01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:57,100
in the neighborhood been able

2142
01:05:57,100 --> 01:05:58,100
to handle. Right now there is.

2143
01:05:58,100 --> 01:05:59,100
It's gone from camp

2144
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:00,100
to compound. These guys aren't

2145
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:01,100
afraid to build a cabin,

2146
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:02,100
use a chainsaw. When it flooded

2147
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:03,100
last spring, I went back there,

2148
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:04,100
took a look at it, and they had

2149
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:05,100
actually built it up

2150
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:06,100
on elevated platform. They had

2151
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:08,100
a wood stove in there. They

2152
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:10,100
have solar panels. They have

2153
01:06:10,100 --> 01:06:11,100
batteries that store the

2154
01:06:11,100 --> 01:06:12,100
electricity for the solar.

2155
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:15,100
They have a mini fridge that

2156
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:17,100
floated

2157
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:19,100
down the creek and kind

2158
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:23,100
of got stuck in a log jam.

2159
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:24,100
This spring, when,

2160
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:27,100
before all the trees budded,

2161
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,100
I could literally see the camp

2162
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:32,100
from my dining room. If I were

2163
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:33,100
to walk out the back

2164
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:34,100
of my gate, walk

2165
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:36,100
down the trail, swim

2166
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:37,100
across the creek, I could be

2167
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:39,100
in the camp

2168
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:41,100
in maybe one minute. There's

2169
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:43,100
constant dog barking, fighting,

2170
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:44,100
all the carrying on that kind

2171
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:47,100
of goes on with that sort

2172
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:48,100
of thing. And there's been

2173
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:50,401
something that's been pretty

2174
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:52,100
weird. You know,

2175
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:53,100
in the wintertime, people

2176
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:54,100
actually put their windows

2177
01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:55,100
open. And every now and then

2178
01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:57,100
I'll wake up and it's just

2179
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:58,100
like, my God, what's this toxic

2180
01:06:58,100 --> 01:06:59,100
plume? You know,

2181
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:00,100
it just smells

2182
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:01,100
like something just crazy is

2183
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:03,100
on fire. And I've spoke

2184
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:05,100
with a few of my neighbors,

2185
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:06,100
and it's kind of been sort

2186
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:08,100
of a weird, ongoing thing that

2187
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:09,100
we've all noticed. You know,

2188
01:07:09,100 --> 01:07:10,100
I've talked to some

2189
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,100
of my neighbors. Yeah, what are

2190
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:13,100
they burning? Trash. What

2191
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:15,100
happened when their tents catch

2192
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:18,100
on fire? Can't really figure it

2193
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:19,100
out. So anyway, you know,

2194
01:07:19,100 --> 01:07:20,100
in the past, I've gone

2195
01:07:20,100 --> 01:07:21,100
into the camps

2196
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,100
before and tried

2197
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:24,100
to have conversations

2198
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:26,100
with the. With the residents

2199
01:07:26,100 --> 01:07:28,100
of the camps. So Sunday, went

2200
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:30,100
across the creek, went

2201
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:32,100
into the camp. Everybody kind

2202
01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:34,100
of scattered except

2203
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:36,100
for the pack of dogs. And I

2204
01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:38,100
started looking Around.

2205
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:40,100
There's stoves,

2206
01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:42,100
there's pots and pans,

2207
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:43,100
empty solvent jugs. There's a

2208
01:07:43,100 --> 01:07:45,100
meth lab. And so maybe I've

2209
01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:46,100
reported it to RPD a bunch

2210
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:47,100
of times,

2211
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:48,100
but maybe you guys can help us

2212
01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:49,100
out and direct some more

2213
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:51,401
resources to this. Basically,

2214
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:55,601
it's a meth lab. All right,

2215
01:07:56,100 --> 01:07:57,100
thanks. Thank you.

2216
01:07:57,100 --> 01:07:59,100
>> Where was this property

2217
01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:01,100
again?

2218
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:04,100
>> Crown Estates.

2219
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:06,100
>> Crown Estates subdivision.

2220
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:12,601
It's on the south side of

2221
01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:17,100
Clear Creek and it's probably a

2222
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:20,100
block down from the 273 bridge.

2223
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:21,100
They've kind

2224
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:23,401
of worked their way

2225
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,100
through that forest. And, you

2226
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:28,100
know, RPD has been aware of it.

2227
01:08:28,100 --> 01:08:30,401
I've actually had conversations

2228
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:35,401
with patrolmen. I've reported

2229
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,100
it with to Fish and Wildlife

2230
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:39,100
blm, Shasta County. You know,

2231
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:41,401
it's like everybody kind

2232
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:43,100
of has been aware of it. I've

2233
01:08:43,100 --> 01:08:44,100
been pretty vocal and it's been

2234
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:45,100
an ongoing thing,

2235
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:46,100
but typically it's, you know,

2236
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:47,100
a handful of camps. The weather

2237
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:48,100
chases them out

2238
01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:49,100
of there and it takes a while

2239
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:50,100
for them to come back.

2240
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:51,100
But do you guys remember, like,

2241
01:08:51,100 --> 01:08:52,100
what was going on at Nor Pond

2242
01:08:52,100 --> 01:08:53,100
before it got developed

2243
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,100
into a recreation area? There

2244
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:57,401
is an astronomical amount

2245
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:00,100
of debris in this.

2246
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:02,401
In this area now.

2247
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,100
>> And the chief of police is

2248
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:08,100
over here,

2249
01:09:08,100 --> 01:09:09,100
so we're gonna have you talk

2250
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:10,100
to him after you're done.

2251
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,100
>> Yeah, I've got some

2252
01:09:12,100 --> 01:09:14,100
pictures.

2253
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:15,100
>> He would love that. Well,

2254
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:16,100
yeah, and then we'll. And then,

2255
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:17,100
and then we'll follow up. Have

2256
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:18,100
you emailed or given us any

2257
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:20,100
of your contact info?

2258
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:21,100
>> You know,

2259
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:23,401
I've submitted a bunch

2260
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:28,100
of stuff to the rpd. You know,

2261
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:29,100
the online submission. Yeah.

2262
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:30,100
So there's a long record.

2263
01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:31,100
>> Can you just follow? We're

2264
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:32,100
going to follow up with him,

2265
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:33,100
but will you also follow up

2266
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:34,100
with us either

2267
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:35,100
by email or come to the next

2268
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:36,100
meeting and we'll make sure

2269
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:38,100
that something's been done?

2270
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:39,100
>> Yes. Thank you.

2271
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:40,100
>> Thank you.

2272
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:42,100
>> Thank you. Janet Chapman,

2273
01:09:42,100 --> 01:09:44,100
you're up next. Nick Garner,

2274
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:46,100
you're on deck.

2275
01:09:55,100 --> 01:09:56,100
>> Greetings, council members.

2276
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:57,100
I'm Reverend Janet Chapman

2277
01:09:57,100 --> 01:09:58,100
from First Christian Church,

2278
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,100
and we are deeply humbled. We

2279
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:02,100
just celebrated our 60th

2280
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:03,100
anniversary here.

2281
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:05,100
>> In Reading, and we are

2282
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:07,100
grateful that.

2283
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:08,100
>> You were able to hear

2284
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:09,100
about Christian church homes.

2285
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:12,100
>> We have been in partnership

2286
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:13,100
with them in the 60 years we've

2287
01:10:13,100 --> 01:10:14,100
been here in Reading. And it's

2288
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:17,100
wonderful to see their success

2289
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:19,100
not just here in Reading,

2290
01:10:19,100 --> 01:10:20,100
but nationwide in housing. Low

2291
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:22,100
income seniors in beautiful,

2292
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:24,100
sustainable apartments. You

2293
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,100
should go check

2294
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:27,100
out these apartments. They're

2295
01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:29,100
gorgeous.

2296
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:30,100
But that didn't start

2297
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:32,100
off that way. 69 years ago,

2298
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:34,100
it took time for.

2299
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:35,100
>> Christian church homes

2300
01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:36,100
to build.

2301
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:38,100
>> Up, to adapt, to revise,

2302
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:39,100
to adjust,

2303
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,100
to navigate grant options,

2304
01:10:40,100 --> 01:10:42,100
to consider housing and how to

2305
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:44,100
finance those housing options.

2306
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:47,100
It wasn't an overnight process.

2307
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:49,100
And so I'm sharing from,

2308
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:51,100
I'm so.

2309
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:53,100
>> Grateful Cynthia from the

2310
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:55,100
Bay Area could.

2311
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:56,100
>> Come and be

2312
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:58,100
with us. I'm sharing from the

2313
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:00,100
way back when when we were just

2314
01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:01,100
learning how to do this. And I

2315
01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:02,100
would like to remind you that

2316
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:04,100
that also applies

2317
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:06,100
to situations

2318
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:08,100
like creating micro shelters.

2319
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:10,100
We are a big advocate

2320
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:13,100
for the micro shelters here

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01:11:13,100 --> 01:11:15,100
in Reading. It is not an

2322
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:17,401
overnight process. Whereas we

2323
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:21,100
have been working

2324
01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:23,100
with the micro shelter

2325
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:25,100
for a couple years in South

2326
01:11:25,100 --> 01:11:26,100
Market, the one the United Way

2327
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:28,100
has been undergirding. They now

2328
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:30,100
have 30 people who are

2329
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:33,100
out working in the community

2330
01:11:33,100 --> 01:11:35,100
in their own apartments, their

2331
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:36,100
own housing and they are

2332
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:38,100
employed. I also want to

2333
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:40,100
acknowledge this would not have

2334
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:41,100
happened without the support

2335
01:11:41,100 --> 01:11:43,100
of Barry Tippen and Steve Baid

2336
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:45,100
and Kristin Schrader. And we

2337
01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:47,100
are deeply grateful

2338
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:48,100
for that support. But this is

2339
01:11:48,100 --> 01:11:50,100
not an overnight process. This

2340
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:52,100
takes time and patience. And I

2341
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:55,100
know it's hard to be patient.

2342
01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:57,100
And I know when you're looking

2343
01:11:57,100 --> 01:11:59,100
at the bottom line, you want

2344
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:00,100
to see, well, I want

2345
01:12:00,100 --> 01:12:01,100
to get these people out. Let's

2346
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:02,100
get them out right away. If we

2347
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:04,100
had done that 69 years ago in

2348
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,100
Christian church homes,

2349
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:07,100
I guarantee to you the Lorenz

2350
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:09,100
Hotel, Reading Treehouse and

2351
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:11,100
Piper Way would be vacant.

2352
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:14,100
They would not exist. Caring

2353
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:17,100
for the vulnerable takes time.

2354
01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:19,100
It takes effort. And if

2355
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:21,401
Christian church homes had

2356
01:12:22,100 --> 01:12:23,100
given up and city of Reading

2357
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:25,100
had said you're not operating

2358
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:27,100
fast enough, then the 230

2359
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:29,100
people who have homes right now

2360
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:30,100
with CCH would not be so lucky.

2361
01:12:30,100 --> 01:12:32,100
Please, friends, consider the

2362
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:35,100
process and recognize this is

2363
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,100
not an overnight. It's not even

2364
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:41,100
a one year process or a two

2365
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:44,100
year process. This involves all

2366
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:48,100
of us working together

2367
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:50,100
on the long haul. Thank you.

2368
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:53,100
>> Thank you. Nick, you're up

2369
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:57,100
then. Todd Jones.

2370
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:00,100
>> I've got a radio show.

2371
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,100
>> Poke the Hornet's nest.

2372
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:07,100
It's on kcnr1460.com I would

2373
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:08,100
encourage everybody to go

2374
01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:10,100
to the show. This last Sunday

2375
01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:12,100
we had Christine and Mike

2376
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:14,100
Robinson on. They own a

2377
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:16,401
property at the middle.

2378
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:21,100
>> Of Middle Creek Road and

2379
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:24,100
they were.

2380
01:13:24,100 --> 01:13:25,100
>> Burned out with the car

2381
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:27,100
fire.

2382
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:30,100
>> And the city of Reading

2383
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:32,100
in conjunction.

2384
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:36,100
>> And mostly with the Shasta

2385
01:13:36,100 --> 01:13:38,401
county code enforcement have

2386
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:41,100
done everything

2387
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:42,100
to steal their property

2388
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:43,100
from them.

2389
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:45,100
>> They put every roadblock up

2390
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:46,100
they could.

2391
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:47,100
>> Possibly put up to where

2392
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:49,100
they can't rebuild and they've

2393
01:13:49,100 --> 01:13:52,100
spent a ton of money,

2394
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:53,100
I mean hundreds of thousands of

2395
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:55,100
dollars defending themselves.

2396
01:13:55,100 --> 01:13:57,100
And at the end

2397
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,100
of the day they Got a hold

2398
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:01,100
of a map.

2399
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:03,100
>> That showed that the city

2400
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:05,100
of Reading.

2401
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:07,100
>> Wanted to put a trailhead

2402
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:09,100
with a 15 car parking lot

2403
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:11,100
on their property. And that was

2404
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,100
what the big push was.

2405
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:13,100
>> And this is something

2406
01:14:13,100 --> 01:14:14,100
Barry Tippen should.

2407
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:16,100
>> Have been aware

2408
01:14:16,100 --> 01:14:18,100
of if he wasn't. This is a

2409
01:14:18,100 --> 01:14:19,100
travesty

2410
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:21,100
of justice trying.

2411
01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:25,100
>> To steal these people's

2412
01:14:25,100 --> 01:14:27,100
property the way they did.

2413
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:29,100
>> So I would encourage

2414
01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,100
everybody to go listen

2415
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:34,601
to that kcnr1460.com and listen

2416
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:40,601
to how the government can steal

2417
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:43,100
your property,

2418
01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:47,100
how things are manipulated.

2419
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:48,100
Now, Mark Mazano said that all

2420
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:49,100
the decisions were made

2421
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:50,100
by the supervisors up there.

2422
01:14:50,100 --> 01:14:51,100
And like Leslie said,

2423
01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:52,100
they make their decisions

2424
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:53,100
with the information Barry gets

2425
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:54,100
them. But I'd like to ask

2426
01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:55,100
Mark, did you vote

2427
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:56,100
on letting our sports park go

2428
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:57,100
to hell? Did you vote

2429
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:58,100
on letting all the parolees

2430
01:14:58,100 --> 01:14:59,100
from out of the area be parole

2431
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:00,100
directing? I've got information

2432
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,100
that can, can back that up.

2433
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:02,100
And you know, our town's gone

2434
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:03,100
to hell. I don't know where you

2435
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:04,100
guys get the rosy picture that

2436
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:05,100
everything's hunky dory.

2437
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:06,100
>> Because I don't see.

2438
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:07,100
>> All right, Todd Jones,

2439
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:10,100
you're up. Hello, Mr. Mayor,

2440
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:13,100
council and staff, thank you

2441
01:15:13,100 --> 01:15:14,100
for having me here today. I

2442
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:15,100
wanted to kind of touch on a

2443
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:18,100
few things. I think the first

2444
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:20,100
one really that kind

2445
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:23,100
of encompasses all of it is

2446
01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:24,100
collaboration. I just want

2447
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:26,100
to thank the staff.

2448
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:27,100
>> Of the City of Reading

2449
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:29,100
for partnering.

2450
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:31,100
>> With us and collaborating

2451
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:32,100
with us for Visit Reading and

2452
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:33,100
supporting the work that we do

2453
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:34,100
at Visit Reading to really,

2454
01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:35,100
like Danny said, highlight and

2455
01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:36,100
be that bright light and

2456
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:37,100
showcase what Reading has

2457
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:39,100
to offer. And I think we've

2458
01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:40,100
seen that over the last several

2459
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:43,100
years and the tot increase that

2460
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:44,100
we've seen since the Chamber

2461
01:15:44,100 --> 01:15:47,100
has taken on that. And it's

2462
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:49,100
been great to work with Travis

2463
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:50,100
and Steve and the whole team

2464
01:15:50,100 --> 01:15:52,100
there.

2465
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:53,100
But the big thing that I wanted

2466
01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:54,100
to talk about is really Barry

2467
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:55,100
tonight. And I know I didn't. I

2468
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:56,100
didn't know you could actually

2469
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:57,100
present on those presentations

2470
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,100
at the beginning,

2471
01:15:58,100 --> 01:15:59,100
but I really wanted to thank

2472
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:00,100
Barry between my time

2473
01:16:00,100 --> 01:16:01,100
at the EDC and now at the

2474
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:02,100
Chamber. When I was

2475
01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:03,100
at the edc, we were

2476
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:04,100
in dozens and dozens

2477
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:05,100
of meetings

2478
01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:06,100
on different projects. Some of

2479
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:07,100
them were a little bit crazy.

2480
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:08,100
So thank you for humoring me

2481
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:09,100
with some

2482
01:16:09,100 --> 01:16:10,100
of these people that came

2483
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:11,100
to town.

2484
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,100
But I think my big takeaway

2485
01:16:12,100 --> 01:16:13,100
from every single meeting I've

2486
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:14,100
ever had with Barry

2487
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:15,100
on these ideas at Stillwater or

2488
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:16,100
other big investments in

2489
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:17,100
Redding is he always found a

2490
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:18,100
way and he always had a

2491
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:19,100
positive attitude. And he said,

2492
01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:20,100
we'll, we'll Figure it out.

2493
01:16:20,100 --> 01:16:21,100
We'll get it done. And I think

2494
01:16:21,100 --> 01:16:22,100
everybody that came into those

2495
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:23,100
meetings that walked away

2496
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:24,100
always felt, I know

2497
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:25,100
for a fact, they always felt

2498
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:26,100
confident that the city of

2499
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:27,100
Reading could do it, take care

2500
01:16:27,100 --> 01:16:28,100
of them, and see the project

2501
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:29,100
through to fruition. And a lot

2502
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:30,100
of that came from Barry's

2503
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:31,100
leadership at City hall

2504
01:16:31,100 --> 01:16:32,100
over the last several years.

2505
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:33,100
And I really want to thank you

2506
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:34,100
for all of the work that you've

2507
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:36,100
done and the visionary

2508
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:37,100
leadership and the way that

2509
01:16:37,100 --> 01:16:38,100
you've been able to stand up

2510
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:39,100
and do what you think needs

2511
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:40,100
to be done

2512
01:16:40,100 --> 01:16:41,100
to see progress happen

2513
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:43,100
in our city. So thank you so

2514
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:45,100
much and we're gonna miss you.

2515
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:46,100
Appreciate it, Barry. Thanks,

2516
01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:49,100
Todd. All right, moving on

2517
01:16:51,100 --> 01:16:53,100
to consent calendar. The

2518
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:54,100
consent calendar king's items

2519
01:16:54,100 --> 01:16:56,100
continue routine and or which

2520
01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:57,100
have been individually

2521
01:16:57,100 --> 01:16:58,100
scrutinized by city council

2522
01:16:58,100 --> 01:16:59,100
members and are anticipated to

2523
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,100
require no further

2524
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:02,100
deliberation. A member

2525
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:03,100
of the public wishes

2526
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:04,100
to address the item

2527
01:17:04,100 --> 01:17:05,100
on a consent calendar. Please

2528
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:06,100
enter your name the electronic

2529
01:17:06,100 --> 01:17:08,100
kiosk in the lobby before the

2530
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:09,100
consent calendar is considered.

2531
01:17:09,100 --> 01:17:11,100
Yes, it shall be the

2532
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:13,100
prerogative

2533
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:15,100
of any city council member

2534
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:16,100
before the consent calendar is

2535
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:17,100
acted upon to one, comment

2536
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:18,100
on an item two, respond

2537
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:20,100
to any public comment

2538
01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:22,100
on an item Three, request the

2539
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:24,100
record reflect an abstention or

2540
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:25,100
>> Nay vote on an item number

2541
01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:27,100
four.

2542
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:29,100
>> Remove an item and place it

2543
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:30,100
on the regular portion

2544
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:32,100
of the agenda for delivery of a

2545
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:34,100
staff report and or extended

2546
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:35,100
discussion deliberation. Do we

2547
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:38,100
have any of those today?

2548
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:40,100
>> All right, obtain a motion.

2549
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:41,100
>> I'll make a motion

2550
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:43,100
to approve consent.

2551
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:44,100
>> All right, I'll. A second.

2552
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:45,100
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

2553
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:47,100
All right.

2554
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:49,100
>> Well,

2555
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:54,100
>> That was nice. All right,

2556
01:17:54,100 --> 01:17:56,100
moving on. 9.10. Mr.

2557
01:17:56,100 --> 01:17:58,401
Robinette, consider the city

2558
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:01,100
of readings, year end budget

2559
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:03,100
review, associated resolution

2560
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:05,401
for fiscal year ending 2025.

2561
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:09,100
It's all yours. Good evening,

2562
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:10,100
mayor, council. Mr. Orloff said

2563
01:18:10,100 --> 01:18:12,100
something that I think kind

2564
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:14,100
of spoke to me. It's an honor

2565
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:15,100
to be up here presenting this

2566
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:17,100
information and working hard

2567
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:18,100
for our community. Community. I

2568
01:18:18,100 --> 01:18:21,100
don't. I know I don't say it

2569
01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:22,100
enough and so I just wanted

2570
01:18:22,100 --> 01:18:23,100
to express that,

2571
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:26,100
that I really take great pride

2572
01:18:26,100 --> 01:18:27,100
in the work that we do

2573
01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:28,100
in our department. And

2574
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:30,100
with that, I'll get started.

2575
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:32,100
This update, I think this is

2576
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:33,100
the fourth time I've given. It

2577
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:36,100
can always be a little

2578
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:38,100
challenging because we just

2579
01:18:38,100 --> 01:18:39,100
adopted a new budget,

2580
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:41,100
a new ten year plan,

2581
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:42,100
but yet here we are talking

2582
01:18:42,100 --> 01:18:43,100
about the old ten year plan one

2583
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:44,100
last time. And so that in and

2584
01:18:44,100 --> 01:18:45,100
of itself can be a little

2585
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:47,100
confusing. I'll do my Best

2586
01:18:47,100 --> 01:18:48,100
throughout the presentation to

2587
01:18:48,100 --> 01:18:49,100
connect those pieces where

2588
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:52,100
appropriate from kind of how

2589
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:54,100
the new ten year plan was

2590
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:55,100
created

2591
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:56,100
with the information present

2592
01:18:56,100 --> 01:18:59,100
in this document. The primary

2593
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:00,100
two connection points, just

2594
01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:02,100
to point out off the start is

2595
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:04,100
the beginning cash number for

2596
01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:05,100
the new ten year plan has some

2597
01:19:05,100 --> 01:19:07,100
loose relationship,

2598
01:19:07,100 --> 01:19:08,100
not a direct correlation

2599
01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:09,100
to the ending cash of the old

2600
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:13,201
10 year plan as of 6-30-25 will

2601
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:16,100
be our beginning cash

2602
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:19,100
for 7-1-25. And then the other

2603
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:20,100
part where there's a loose

2604
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:21,100
connection is

2605
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:22,100
with our revenue forecasts. We

2606
01:19:22,100 --> 01:19:24,100
have to actually,

2607
01:19:24,100 --> 01:19:25,100
when we're doing the budget,

2608
01:19:25,100 --> 01:19:26,100
it's early spring and we are

2609
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:29,100
having to forecast the rest

2610
01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:30,100
of 2425. So I will do my best

2611
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:32,401
to explain the revenue

2612
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:34,100
projections we use as part

2613
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:35,100
of the budget for 2425 and try

2614
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:37,401
to contextualize where we

2615
01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:39,100
landed relative

2616
01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:40,100
to not just the old budget, but

2617
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:41,100
the new budget as well as we

2618
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:42,100
kind of launch off into the new

2619
01:19:42,100 --> 01:19:43,100
budget that we're already two

2620
01:19:43,100 --> 01:19:45,100
and a half months into. Okay,

2621
01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:47,401
Steve. Okay, so starting

2622
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:55,100
with the first slide here,

2623
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:01,100
this is a kind of our. Our

2624
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:03,100
general fund cash balance

2625
01:20:03,100 --> 01:20:05,100
provides a history of each

2626
01:20:05,100 --> 01:20:06,100
quarter ending actual cash

2627
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:08,100
reserves. The beginning cash,

2628
01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:11,100
6-30-24 is the cash used

2629
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,100
in our general fund 10 year

2630
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:15,100
plan. As council may remember,

2631
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:17,100
the cash actually in our

2632
01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:19,100
audited general fund financial

2633
01:20:19,100 --> 01:20:21,100
statements was much higher than

2634
01:20:21,100 --> 01:20:24,100
that. We lower it for various

2635
01:20:24,100 --> 01:20:26,100
encumbrances and carryovers

2636
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:28,100
that are carried over

2637
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:30,100
to the next year. In this

2638
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:32,100
fiscal year that was quite

2639
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:34,100
large between encumbrances and

2640
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:37,100
carryovers, we had about a $10

2641
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:39,401
million reduction to cash

2642
01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:45,601
from the audited cash to the

2643
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:48,100
beginning cash that was used

2644
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:50,100
by the ten year plan. This V

2645
01:20:50,100 --> 01:20:51,100
pattern

2646
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:53,100
of cash is pretty normal. And

2647
01:20:53,100 --> 01:20:55,100
then the actual cash

2648
01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:57,100
for 6-30-25 is about 10.2

2649
01:20:57,100 --> 01:20:59,100
million right now. I also like

2650
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:00,100
to point out as part

2651
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:01,100
of this presentation,

2652
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:03,100
we are not done

2653
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:04,100
with our audit. We're

2654
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:06,100
about four to six weeks away

2655
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:07,100
from the completion

2656
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:08,100
of our audit. So there still

2657
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:09,100
will be adjustments, incoming

2658
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:10,100
on cash and various expenses.

2659
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:11,100
It shouldn't be a lot

2660
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:12,100
at this point, but I do think

2661
01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:13,100
it's an important context

2662
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:14,100
to know we are not done

2663
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:15,100
with our audit. So these

2664
01:21:15,100 --> 01:21:16,100
numbers are subject

2665
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:17,100
to change. The current ten year

2666
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:18,100
plan, or I call it the old ten

2667
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:19,100
year plan at this point would

2668
01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:20,100
project that we would have

2669
01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:21,100
about a 6% reserve, $6.8

2670
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:22,100
million. The new 10 year plan

2671
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:23,100
is that we actually forecasted

2672
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:24,100
a $9 million number. I went

2673
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:25,100
through some detail

2674
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:26,100
in the staff report

2675
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:27,100
to explain kind

2676
01:21:27,100 --> 01:21:28,100
of the difference between those

2677
01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:29,100
two numbers and why I still

2678
01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:30,100
believe the 9 million is a good

2679
01:21:30,100 --> 01:21:31,100
estimation. And over the next

2680
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:32,100
couple slides I'll get

2681
01:21:32,100 --> 01:21:33,100
into those details

2682
01:21:33,100 --> 01:21:34,100
of the revenues. Yes, they were

2683
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:35,100
short. There's some context

2684
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:36,100
around those revenues and

2685
01:21:36,100 --> 01:21:37,100
expenses. There was a great

2686
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:38,100
deal of savings in the general

2687
01:21:38,100 --> 01:21:40,100
fund that we can count as

2688
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:41,100
savings towards the beginning,

2689
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:44,100
cash. So this first slide is

2690
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:46,100
just a high level overview.

2691
01:21:46,100 --> 01:21:49,100
Revenues are on the left.

2692
01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:50,100
Typically in a perfect world

2693
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:51,100
you would want actuals

2694
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:52,100
to be above, so the dark blue

2695
01:21:52,100 --> 01:21:53,100
to be above the light blue.

2696
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:55,100
Just that way you know you're

2697
01:21:55,100 --> 01:21:56,100
increasing your revenue

2698
01:21:56,100 --> 01:21:58,100
over what you forecasted.

2699
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:00,100
In this case, we're $3.7

2700
01:22:00,100 --> 01:22:02,100
million under projections. The

2701
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:03,100
next couple slides I'll break

2702
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:04,100
down what those details are.

2703
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:06,100
And then on the right set

2704
01:22:06,100 --> 01:22:08,100
of graphs there,

2705
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:11,100
you always want actual to be

2706
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:12,100
below budget. And while we do

2707
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:14,401
have some budget requests

2708
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:16,100
included in the staff report,

2709
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:18,100
that's kind of the second half

2710
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:20,100
of the presentation. That is

2711
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:21,100
primarily not a result of lack

2712
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:23,100
of savings, as you'll see

2713
01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:25,100
in a few slides, but savings

2714
01:22:25,100 --> 01:22:27,100
in the right categories

2715
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:28,100
for those departments. So

2716
01:22:28,100 --> 01:22:29,100
overall they saved money. But

2717
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:31,100
in the specific categories that

2718
01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:32,100
we manage the budget to, they

2719
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:33,100
needed some additional funds.

2720
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:34,100
Not a lot,

2721
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:35,100
but some additional funds. So

2722
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,100
first, this is our kind

2723
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:40,100
of our revenue chart

2724
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:41,100
for the audience's benefit.

2725
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:43,100
Although council has heard me

2726
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:44,100
present this a few times, I

2727
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:45,100
still think it can be slightly

2728
01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:48,100
confusing. If every bar was

2729
01:22:48,100 --> 01:22:49,100
exactly on that line,

2730
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:51,100
you didn't see a bar. That

2731
01:22:51,100 --> 01:22:52,100
means we hit the projection.

2732
01:22:52,100 --> 01:22:53,100
Exactly. That's pretty hard

2733
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:54,100
to do. So I don't think. I

2734
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:55,100
hardly ever see anything. You

2735
01:22:55,100 --> 01:22:56,100
know, some

2736
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:58,100
of those are very close

2737
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:00,100
to the line,

2738
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:01,100
which is encouraging. As you

2739
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:03,100
can see here, sales tax for

2740
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:05,100
2425 was $1.3 million

2741
01:23:05,100 --> 01:23:07,100
under projection for 2425.

2742
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:09,100
In a few slides I'll talk about

2743
01:23:09,100 --> 01:23:10,100
when we built the new budget.

2744
01:23:10,100 --> 01:23:12,100
What did we assume

2745
01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:13,100
for 2425? I can kind of

2746
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:16,100
forecast it was lower than the

2747
01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:18,100
number that we had in the

2748
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:20,401
budget that was previously

2749
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:23,100
approved by council. Property

2750
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:25,100
tax is over by $500,000.

2751
01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:27,100
Transiting occupancy tax

2752
01:23:27,100 --> 01:23:29,100
below projection by 300,000.

2753
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:31,100
Cannabis tax and other taxes.

2754
01:23:31,100 --> 01:23:32,100
Combine those together, about

2755
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:34,100
300,000 below. Building related

2756
01:23:35,100 --> 01:23:36,100
fees, about 238,000 below.

2757
01:23:36,100 --> 01:23:38,100
Internal departments, we

2758
01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:40,100
haven't finished what's called

2759
01:23:40,100 --> 01:23:41,100
the street report or the gas

2760
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:42,100
tax. True up, but that's the

2761
01:23:42,100 --> 01:23:44,100
primary difference between the

2762
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:45,100
internal departments. Transfer

2763
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:47,100
is due

2764
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:49,100
to the streets still working

2765
01:23:49,100 --> 01:23:50,100
on finishing some projects. We

2766
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:51,100
don't make a transfer

2767
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:53,100
to the general fund until that

2768
01:23:53,100 --> 01:23:54,100
money is spent and so there

2769
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:56,100
were some projects that are

2770
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:58,100
kind of lagging

2771
01:23:58,100 --> 01:23:59,100
behind that we expect

2772
01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:00,100
over the next year we'll be

2773
01:24:00,100 --> 01:24:01,100
able to transfer that money

2774
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:02,100
from the streets department

2775
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:03,100
to the general or

2776
01:24:03,100 --> 01:24:04,100
from the gas tax funds

2777
01:24:04,100 --> 01:24:05,100
to the general fund. Another

2778
01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:07,100
big item

2779
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:09,100
on this slide that I wanted

2780
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:10,100
to point out is the revenue

2781
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:12,100
from other governments. The

2782
01:24:12,100 --> 01:24:13,100
fire department has been

2783
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:15,100
working pretty hard

2784
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:16,100
with the federal government,

2785
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:17,100
FEMA,

2786
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:18,100
to bill our SAFER grant. We're

2787
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:19,100
owed about $2.2 million

2788
01:24:19,100 --> 01:24:21,100
through the end of the fiscal

2789
01:24:21,100 --> 01:24:22,100
year and that would mostly make

2790
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:23,100
up for the reduction there.

2791
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:25,100
The reason there's an issue,

2792
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:27,100
it's a little nuanced, but the

2793
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:28,100
federal government has told us

2794
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:29,100
to start switching over

2795
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:30,100
to a singular UEI number. It's

2796
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:32,100
basically a grant number that

2797
01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:33,100
we're allowed to have. They no

2798
01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:35,100
longer want us

2799
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:36,100
to have multiples. Our city did

2800
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:38,100
have multiples

2801
01:24:38,100 --> 01:24:39,100
for a long time. So there was a

2802
01:24:39,100 --> 01:24:40,100
UEI number used

2803
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:42,100
on the application that now,

2804
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:45,100
since then we've got rid

2805
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:47,100
of that UEI number. We've

2806
01:24:47,100 --> 01:24:49,100
consolidated in the singular

2807
01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:50,100
city UEI number. And so we're

2808
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:52,100
having some issues

2809
01:24:52,100 --> 01:24:53,100
in their system that we have

2810
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:55,100
to bill through actually

2811
01:24:55,100 --> 01:24:57,100
getting that UEI number

2812
01:24:57,100 --> 01:25:00,100
updated. Just saw another email

2813
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:02,100
from us, fema. It's called

2814
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:04,100
fema. Go where they were.

2815
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:05,100
It's Tier three, which I guess

2816
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:07,401
is their highest level

2817
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:09,100
of support. And we're trying to

2818
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:11,100
get that issue rectified so we

2819
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:12,100
can bill them

2820
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:14,100
for our incurred costs. But

2821
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,100
that's just a good example

2822
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:18,100
where we're going

2823
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:19,100
to receive that money

2824
01:25:19,100 --> 01:25:20,100
in the next three

2825
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:21,100
to six months, most likely, and

2826
01:25:21,100 --> 01:25:23,100
then we'll have a revenue next

2827
01:25:23,100 --> 01:25:24,100
year that we weren't accounting

2828
01:25:24,100 --> 01:25:25,100
for. That would actually bring

2829
01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:27,100
this graph up more to equal.

2830
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:28,100
This is a history

2831
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:29,100
of tax revenues. As you can

2832
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:30,100
see, sales tax over the past

2833
01:25:30,100 --> 01:25:31,100
three years has been mostly

2834
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:32,100
flat. Property tax continues

2835
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:33,100
to grow year over year. I'll

2836
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,100
get the next slides. We'll

2837
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:35,100
actually get into some details

2838
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:36,100
of historical growth and the

2839
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:37,100
growth we've seen

2840
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:39,100
over the past few years.

2841
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:41,100
But this just kind

2842
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:42,100
of gives a snapshot

2843
01:25:42,100 --> 01:25:43,100
of the last three years. And

2844
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:44,100
this is actually through

2845
01:25:44,100 --> 01:25:46,100
June. So property tax continues

2846
01:25:46,100 --> 01:25:47,100
to be a strength, but all the

2847
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:49,100
other revenues are mostly flat.

2848
01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:50,100
The tax revenues are mostly

2849
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:52,401
flat. So I felt

2850
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:58,100
like it would be good to talk

2851
01:25:58,100 --> 01:25:59,100
about more than three years

2852
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:01,100
of actuals, talk

2853
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:03,100
about where our forecast exists

2854
01:26:03,100 --> 01:26:05,100
in the new budget,

2855
01:26:05,100 --> 01:26:07,100
and also walk through kind

2856
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:08,100
of the previously 2325 adopted

2857
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:09,100
budget and amended budget. So

2858
01:26:09,100 --> 01:26:12,100
first up is sales tax. As you

2859
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:13,100
can see on the graph,

2860
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:16,100
we had basically 10 years of.

2861
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:19,100
If you average it all out,

2862
01:26:19,100 --> 01:26:20,100
it's growth, but over the past

2863
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:22,100
five years it has pretty much

2864
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:25,100
been flat. Four years it's been

2865
01:26:25,100 --> 01:26:26,100
flat. So if you average 10

2866
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:27,100
years, sales taxes increased

2867
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:29,100
by 3.4% over those 10 years

2868
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:32,100
on average. And then from 2015

2869
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:34,100
to 2020 it was 3.2% all told. I

2870
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:37,100
think what's important is what

2871
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:39,100
did we do in the budget? So

2872
01:26:39,100 --> 01:26:40,100
with the adopted budget is the

2873
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:43,100
darker blue line. In September

2874
01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:44,100
of last year,

2875
01:26:44,100 --> 01:26:46,100
we amended the budget down to

2876
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:47,100
the green line and as you can

2877
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:49,100
see for last year,

2878
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:50,100
the revenue continued to kind

2879
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:53,100
of stay flat. And we built the

2880
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:55,100
new budget assuming 2425 was

2881
01:26:55,100 --> 01:26:57,100
going to be flat from 2324. It

2882
01:26:57,100 --> 01:26:59,401
did slightly come in

2883
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,100
below that by about $500,000.

2884
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:03,100
So we're already starting

2885
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:05,100
off kind of on a bad foot. And

2886
01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:07,100
then we assume 2% growth

2887
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:08,100
for the first two years of the

2888
01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:10,100
budget and then 2.5%

2889
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:11,100
thereafter. I think

2890
01:27:11,100 --> 01:27:13,100
with the historical information

2891
01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:14,100
of 3.4% growth for 10 years, I

2892
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:16,401
think our assumptions are

2893
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:18,100
pretty conservative.

2894
01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:19,100
But also, you know,

2895
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:20,100
to be honest, I don't think

2896
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:22,100
I've ever seen a situation

2897
01:27:22,100 --> 01:27:23,100
where besides that little

2898
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:24,100
bubble, you know,

2899
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:25,100
mostly if you look

2900
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:27,100
across those four years,

2901
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:28,100
we're flat. You know, there's a

2902
01:27:28,100 --> 01:27:29,100
bubble there and then we've

2903
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:30,100
been flat for four years

2904
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:33,100
besides that bubble. So that's

2905
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:34,100
our forecast

2906
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:35,100
for the new budget and it is

2907
01:27:35,100 --> 01:27:38,100
below the even amended budget

2908
01:27:38,100 --> 01:27:39,100
or the last adopted budget.

2909
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:40,100
And we, you know, we're kind

2910
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:41,100
of chasing it

2911
01:27:41,100 --> 01:27:42,100
down as it continues

2912
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:44,100
to go flat. We assume it's

2913
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:45,100
going to increase at some point

2914
01:27:45,100 --> 01:27:46,100
and I'm hopeful that at some

2915
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:48,100
point it'll catch up and start

2916
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:49,100
meeting or beating our

2917
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:51,401
assumptions. A little added

2918
01:27:53,100 --> 01:27:54,100
context here, I think. I

2919
01:27:54,100 --> 01:27:55,100
started presenting these

2920
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:56,100
updates as a finance officer

2921
01:27:56,100 --> 01:27:57,100
in around 2019, and from 2019

2922
01:27:57,100 --> 01:28:00,601
to 2022, I would always come to

2923
01:28:01,100 --> 01:28:02,100
council and tell them how good

2924
01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:04,100
sales tax is doing. It's always

2925
01:28:04,100 --> 01:28:05,100
beating our projections. And

2926
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:06,100
then in 2022, 2023 is,

2927
01:28:06,100 --> 01:28:09,100
was when I felt like I was, er,

2928
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:12,100
all the time, because it

2929
01:28:12,100 --> 01:28:13,100
continually, you know,

2930
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:14,100
we're trying to, trying

2931
01:28:14,100 --> 01:28:16,100
to find the bottom, so

2932
01:28:16,100 --> 01:28:17,100
to speak, with assumptions that

2933
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:19,100
assume growth. And so I would

2934
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:21,100
always come in and say, yeah,

2935
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:23,100
sales tax isn't meeting our

2936
01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:25,401
expectations or meeting our

2937
01:28:26,100 --> 01:28:29,100
forecast. So I remain hopeful

2938
01:28:29,100 --> 01:28:30,100
that this year will be the

2939
01:28:30,100 --> 01:28:31,100
year.

2940
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:33,100
But it is a key component of

2941
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:36,100
our budget that we're gonna

2942
01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:37,100
have to watch. The next one up

2943
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:38,100
is property tax. Again,

2944
01:28:38,100 --> 01:28:41,100
for kind of context. Again, the

2945
01:28:41,100 --> 01:28:42,100
dark blue is our original

2946
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:44,100
adopted budget

2947
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:46,100
for fiscal year 24 and 25, we

2948
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:48,100
amended it last September

2949
01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:50,100
to the green, the green bar.

2950
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:52,100
And then we have the purple

2951
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:53,100
bar, which is the new budget.

2952
01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:54,100
Those are pretty close

2953
01:28:54,100 --> 01:28:56,100
to each other. So

2954
01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:58,100
for historical context,

2955
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:01,100
our average revenue increases

2956
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:02,100
for the last 10 years

2957
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:04,401
in this category was 6.24%.

2958
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:06,100
And if you look

2959
01:29:06,100 --> 01:29:07,100
over the past five years,

2960
01:29:07,100 --> 01:29:08,100
it was 6.89%. And

2961
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:09,100
in the budget,

2962
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:11,401
we assumed a 4.5% increase

2963
01:29:12,100 --> 01:29:13,100
from 2324 to 2425, and then

2964
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,401
thereafter we assumed a 3%

2965
01:29:16,100 --> 01:29:18,100
increase. So pretty

2966
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:19,100
conservative revenue assumption

2967
01:29:19,100 --> 01:29:21,100
if you base it off the last 10

2968
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:23,100
years of actual performance,

2969
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:25,100
which could be continue to be

2970
01:29:25,100 --> 01:29:27,100
an area where it helps offset

2971
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:29,100
maybe some

2972
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:30,000
of the negative performance

2973
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,100
with sales tax. And I will say,

2974
01:29:33,100 --> 01:29:34,100
as a finance guy, I am happy to

2975
01:29:34,100 --> 01:29:36,100
see that our property tax is

2976
01:29:36,100 --> 01:29:37,100
nearly catching up

2977
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:39,100
to our sales tax.

2978
01:29:39,100 --> 01:29:41,100
Unfortunately, it's bad

2979
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:43,100
circumstances, but in, you

2980
01:29:43,100 --> 01:29:45,100
know, a perfect world, that's a

2981
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:47,100
good thing because this is a

2982
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:49,100
lot more stable revenue than

2983
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:51,100
sales tax. And it,

2984
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:52,100
and you can kind of count on it

2985
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:53,100
maintaining even if things

2986
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:54,100
start to go bad,

2987
01:29:54,100 --> 01:29:55,100
it takes a couple years

2988
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:56,100
for you to start to see some

2989
01:29:56,100 --> 01:29:57,100
of those bad outcomes

2990
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:59,100
in the property tax. Next up is

2991
01:29:59,100 --> 01:30:00,100
tot. This is a lot smaller

2992
01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:02,100
revenue than the previous two.

2993
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:03,100
And as you can see there,

2994
01:30:03,100 --> 01:30:05,100
there's some volatility that is

2995
01:30:05,100 --> 01:30:06,100
introduced

2996
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:07,100
in this revenue potentially

2997
01:30:07,100 --> 01:30:09,100
with those major spikes. I'll

2998
01:30:09,100 --> 01:30:10,100
just context each of the spikes

2999
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:12,100
and what I think contributed

3000
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:14,100
to them. In 2019 area there we

3001
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:16,100
had the car fire and we had the

3002
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:18,401
campfire in paradise. That

3003
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:20,100
brought a lot of fire crews

3004
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:22,100
to our area, staying

3005
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:24,100
in our hotels,

3006
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,100
terrible tragedy. But in terms

3007
01:30:27,100 --> 01:30:29,100
of our tot,

3008
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:31,100
it did help quite a bit. And

3009
01:30:31,100 --> 01:30:33,100
then in 2022, I always tell

3010
01:30:33,100 --> 01:30:35,100
people, I think at some point

3011
01:30:35,100 --> 01:30:36,100
people figured out, oh, up in

3012
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:37,100
Northern California, they're

3013
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:38,100
not shut down,

3014
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:41,100
let's go vacation up there.

3015
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:42,100
And so I think they came

3016
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:44,100
to our community

3017
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:45,100
at that time. So I think we're

3018
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:46,100
starting

3019
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:47,100
to see this revenue kind

3020
01:30:47,100 --> 01:30:49,100
of normalize again. You see,

3021
01:30:49,100 --> 01:30:50,100
the,

3022
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:51,100
the blue line was the adopted

3023
01:30:51,100 --> 01:30:52,100
budget, previous budget,

3024
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:53,100
we amended it last September

3025
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:54,100
to the green line. And then the

3026
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:55,100
adopted budget for 2527 is

3027
01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:56,100
right there. And the

3028
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,100
assumptions we used were flat

3029
01:30:57,100 --> 01:30:58,100
from 2324 to 2425. That pretty

3030
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:00,100
much came true. And then 4%

3031
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:02,100
thereafter,

3032
01:31:02,100 --> 01:31:04,100
this revenue has averaged

3033
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:05,100
over the past 10 years a 6.55%

3034
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:06,100
increase. And then the past

3035
01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:08,100
five years, it's actually

3036
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:10,100
averaged a 7.43% increase. But

3037
01:31:10,100 --> 01:31:12,100
for 2025, it was off 0.28%

3038
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:13,100
lower than the previous year.

3039
01:31:13,100 --> 01:31:16,100
So with a lot of hot air spent

3040
01:31:16,100 --> 01:31:19,601
on revenue, I will now kind

3041
01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:23,100
of transition to budget. This

3042
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:25,100
was the previously kind

3043
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:27,100
of alluded to savings that

3044
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:29,100
we've experienced

3045
01:31:29,100 --> 01:31:30,100
in the general fund in each

3046
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:31,100
of our major budgets. As you

3047
01:31:31,100 --> 01:31:33,100
can see there, almost all

3048
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:34,100
of the budgets have savings.

3049
01:31:34,100 --> 01:31:36,100
Some of those will have

3050
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:39,100
carryovers. I, I did look,

3051
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:41,401
we have about 1.4, $1.5 million

3052
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:45,100
of unspent ARPA money that will

3053
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:47,100
be carried over

3054
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:48,100
for next year. Most of that is

3055
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:49,100
in the police department

3056
01:31:49,100 --> 01:31:50,100
for the park rangers program

3057
01:31:50,100 --> 01:31:51,100
in the public works. Most of

3058
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:54,100
that savings is actually going

3059
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:56,100
to be carried over because it's

3060
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:57,100
streets money. Streets doesn't

3061
01:31:57,100 --> 01:31:59,100
necessarily impact the general

3062
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:01,100
fund negatively when we carry

3063
01:32:01,100 --> 01:32:02,100
the money over because they

3064
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:03,100
have a funding source that's

3065
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,100
available. And Michael will get

3066
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:06,100
into that during his

3067
01:32:06,100 --> 01:32:07,100
presentation I believe to talk

3068
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:08,100
about where their funds are and

3069
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:10,100
how they plan to spend them

3070
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:11,100
over the coming years,

3071
01:32:11,100 --> 01:32:12,100
including carryovers.

3072
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:14,100
But all told,

3073
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:15,100
this is very good news for the

3074
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:17,100
general fund. I think this is

3075
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:18,100
emblematic of the calls to all

3076
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:20,100
of our departments

3077
01:32:21,100 --> 01:32:23,100
to save money. And a lot of

3078
01:32:23,100 --> 01:32:25,100
these are real savings that we

3079
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:27,100
can count on, which is part of

3080
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:29,100
the why we will have a balance

3081
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:31,401
right around $9 million instead

3082
01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:33,100
of the old 10 year plan

3083
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:35,100
forecasted $6.8 million. So I

3084
01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:38,100
also wanted to talk again

3085
01:32:41,100 --> 01:32:42,100
in context of the new ten year

3086
01:32:42,100 --> 01:32:43,100
plan and relative

3087
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:46,100
to the old ten year plan. So

3088
01:32:46,100 --> 01:32:47,100
the,

3089
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:48,100
the light blue is the adopted

3090
01:32:48,100 --> 01:32:50,100
FY 24 and 25, but 10 year plan

3091
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:52,100
expenditures and then the dark

3092
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:55,100
blue is the amendment that is

3093
01:32:55,100 --> 01:32:58,100
in there right now. The

3094
01:32:58,100 --> 01:32:59,100
basically the up

3095
01:32:59,100 --> 01:33:00,100
to date amendment. And then the

3096
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:01,100
green is actually what the new

3097
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:03,100
ten year plan looks like. And

3098
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:04,100
so you know, we've talked

3099
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:05,100
about a lot of cuts in that 10

3100
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:07,100
year plan. In the first,

3101
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:09,100
in FY26,

3102
01:33:09,100 --> 01:33:10,100
which is the first year

3103
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:11,100
of the new adopted 10 year

3104
01:33:11,100 --> 01:33:13,100
plan, there's about $6.8

3105
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:14,100
million

3106
01:33:14,100 --> 01:33:15,100
of cuts and then roughly about

3107
01:33:15,100 --> 01:33:17,100
four or five million dollars

3108
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:19,100
thereafter. And as council

3109
01:33:19,100 --> 01:33:20,100
knows and I mentioned

3110
01:33:20,100 --> 01:33:21,100
in the staff report, you know,

3111
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:22,100
we have a full breakdown with

3112
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:23,100
our adopted budget and there

3113
01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:24,100
was actually some revenue

3114
01:33:24,100 --> 01:33:25,100
increases as well where we're

3115
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:26,100
going to charge more for our

3116
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:27,100
recreation fees and our

3117
01:33:27,100 --> 01:33:29,100
development services fees which

3118
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:30,100
will help offset not cost, but

3119
01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:32,100
offset the costs that we're

3120
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:34,100
incurring. And we used

3121
01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:35,100
to subsidize those programs

3122
01:33:35,100 --> 01:33:38,100
to a greater degree. We'll now

3123
01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:39,100
subsidize them

3124
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:40,100
to a lesser degree

3125
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:41,100
through increased fees. And

3126
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:42,100
then I wanted

3127
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:45,100
to present the actual 10 year

3128
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:48,100
plans in relationship to each

3129
01:33:48,100 --> 01:33:50,100
other because I think this is

3130
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:52,100
Important. So the light blue

3131
01:33:52,100 --> 01:33:53,100
line was our adopted 2325

3132
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:55,100
ending cash percentage. As

3133
01:33:55,100 --> 01:33:56,100
council knows,

3134
01:33:56,100 --> 01:33:57,100
we have a 10% required reserve.

3135
01:33:57,100 --> 01:33:59,100
And then the blue was actually

3136
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:00,100
our amended 2325 cash. And if

3137
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:02,100
we continued

3138
01:34:02,100 --> 01:34:04,100
on that trajectory, we would

3139
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:06,100
have been bankrupt effectively.

3140
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:07,100
But through the course

3141
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:09,100
of the budget,

3142
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:11,100
we've made some cuts. Not

3143
01:34:11,100 --> 01:34:12,100
to say we're not going to have

3144
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:13,100
to monitor the progress

3145
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:14,100
of our budget. I continue

3146
01:34:14,100 --> 01:34:15,100
to emphasize that to council.

3147
01:34:15,100 --> 01:34:16,100
It's going

3148
01:34:16,100 --> 01:34:17,100
to be very important to watch

3149
01:34:17,100 --> 01:34:18,100
how our revenues are coming in,

3150
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:20,100
how our expenses coming

3151
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:22,100
in relative to the forecasts.

3152
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:24,100
You know,

3153
01:34:25,100 --> 01:34:26,100
our departments have a lot

3154
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:28,100
of work in front of them

3155
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:29,100
to meet their operational needs

3156
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:31,100
with significant cuts

3157
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:32,100
to their budgets. So to kind

3158
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:34,401
of conclude the presentation,

3159
01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:36,100
city budget request, starting

3160
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:39,100
with the general fund Police is

3161
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:41,100
requesting $631,000 for

3162
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:43,100
retirement cash outs and then

3163
01:34:43,100 --> 01:34:44,100
fires has a $773,000 request

3164
01:34:44,100 --> 01:34:45,100
for retirements and negotiated

3165
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:47,100
increases engineering. This

3166
01:34:47,100 --> 01:34:48,100
one's a little unique. It has

3167
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:49,100
about a $285,000 request.

3168
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:50,100
Basically, the budget was built

3169
01:34:50,100 --> 01:34:51,100
with a higher overhead rate

3170
01:34:51,100 --> 01:34:53,100
than we were allowed

3171
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:54,100
to use due to the Caltrans

3172
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:56,401
calculation. So basically a

3173
01:34:57,100 --> 01:34:59,100
little bit of offset there that

3174
01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:00,100
we didn't get

3175
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:01,100
to incur the advantage of. But

3176
01:35:01,100 --> 01:35:03,100
I will say if you follow that

3177
01:35:03,100 --> 01:35:04,100
overhead rate

3178
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:06,100
over a long enough period

3179
01:35:06,100 --> 01:35:09,100
of time, the goal of the

3180
01:35:09,100 --> 01:35:11,100
Caltrans calculation is

3181
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:13,100
effectively to make it zero.

3182
01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:14,100
But we've had years where we've

3183
01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:15,100
actually kind of made money

3184
01:35:15,100 --> 01:35:18,100
off the overhead rate. That was

3185
01:35:18,100 --> 01:35:20,100
the late teens, early 20s. And

3186
01:35:20,100 --> 01:35:22,100
then now it's kind of flipping

3187
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:23,100
back the other way as it kind

3188
01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:25,100
of works to normalize itself

3189
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:26,100
over a long period of time.

3190
01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:28,100
And then $437,000 for

3191
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:30,100
engineering and land

3192
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,100
development, those have

3193
01:35:32,100 --> 01:35:33,100
associated revenues that you

3194
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:34,100
will see

3195
01:35:34,100 --> 01:35:35,100
in the budget resolution. And

3196
01:35:35,100 --> 01:35:36,100
then parking,

3197
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:38,100
where we have a loan

3198
01:35:38,100 --> 01:35:39,100
to parking at this time for

3199
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:40,100
$232,000, effectively, our

3200
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:42,100
belief is parking will be able

3201
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:44,100
to pay this back in the long

3202
01:35:44,100 --> 01:35:45,100
term as we hopefully see more

3203
01:35:45,100 --> 01:35:47,100
usage

3204
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:49,100
of the parking downtown. So

3205
01:35:49,100 --> 01:35:51,100
increased revenues. And also we

3206
01:35:51,100 --> 01:35:52,100
will see there they have a loan

3207
01:35:52,100 --> 01:35:54,100
to, for the actual system, the

3208
01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:55,100
parking pay stations that will

3209
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:57,100
be paid off

3210
01:35:57,100 --> 01:36:00,100
in the next couple years. And

3211
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:01,100
so we're hoping as those things

3212
01:36:01,100 --> 01:36:03,100
come together and they also can

3213
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:04,100
start to move away from some

3214
01:36:04,100 --> 01:36:06,100
of their paid leases

3215
01:36:06,100 --> 01:36:08,100
on parking areas. And so we're

3216
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:09,100
hoping the revenue cuts and the

3217
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:11,100
or the revenue increases in the

3218
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:12,100
expenditure cuts will kind

3219
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:13,100
of work towards them putting

3220
01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:15,100
in a being

3221
01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:16,100
in a cash positive situation.

3222
01:36:16,100 --> 01:36:18,100
They can pay this loan back

3223
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:20,100
in the future. Moving on,

3224
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:22,100
the enterprise Funds. The

3225
01:36:22,100 --> 01:36:24,100
airport has a variety

3226
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:25,100
of requests there. The largest

3227
01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:26,100
of which is increases for

3228
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:28,100
utilities that were not

3229
01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:29,100
budgeted for. With the original

3230
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:31,100
budget reading. Electric

3231
01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:32,100
utility has about $4.7 million,

3232
01:36:32,100 --> 01:36:34,100
the largest of which is

3233
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:36,100
personnel increases due

3234
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:40,100
to negotiations that occurred

3235
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:41,100
in 2023. I will say talking

3236
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:43,100
with their financial team,

3237
01:36:43,100 --> 01:36:44,100
they have built these

3238
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:45,100
into their financial plans. So

3239
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:47,100
this number is actually lower

3240
01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:48,100
than the amounts that they had

3241
01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:49,100
built

3242
01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:50,100
into their financial plans.

3243
01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:51,100
They had built in about $6

3244
01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:53,100
million and this came in at

3245
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:54,100
4.3. And then solid waste has

3246
01:36:54,100 --> 01:36:56,100
$30,000

3247
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:57,100
for utility increases. Very

3248
01:36:57,100 --> 01:36:58,100
small up there. So I apologize.

3249
01:36:58,100 --> 01:36:59,100
We have some internal service

3250
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:02,100
fund requests. These all have

3251
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:04,100
adequate cash reserves to pay

3252
01:37:04,100 --> 01:37:07,100
for these requests. GIS has

3253
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:09,401
about $40,000 due to personnel

3254
01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:13,100
costs increasing due to

3255
01:37:13,100 --> 01:37:15,100
negotiations. ET has retirement

3256
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:17,401
cash outs for 44,000 and

3257
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:20,100
about 22,000

3258
01:37:20,100 --> 01:37:22,100
for various O&M costs. Fleet

3259
01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:24,100
has $12,000 due to overtime.

3260
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:25,100
And then that large adjustment

3261
01:37:25,100 --> 01:37:26,100
for vehicle repairs and

3262
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:28,100
maintenance,

3263
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:29,100
which is mostly due to

3264
01:37:29,100 --> 01:37:30,100
inventory timing adjustments.

3265
01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:31,100
So it's not actual cash.

3266
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:33,100
Instead it's a recognition of

3267
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:34,100
when do you recognize that

3268
01:37:34,100 --> 01:37:35,100
expense due to how much

3269
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:37,100
inventory do you have on the

3270
01:37:37,100 --> 01:37:38,100
shelf versus the expenditures

3271
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:41,100
that you paid that year. So

3272
01:37:41,100 --> 01:37:42,100
there's no need

3273
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:43,100
for an actual cash increase

3274
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:44,100
to their department. And then

3275
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:46,100
as as previously mentioned,

3276
01:37:46,100 --> 01:37:47,100
Parking is receiving a loan

3277
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:48,100
from the general fund for

3278
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:50,100
$232,000. And with that,

3279
01:37:50,100 --> 01:37:53,100
I wish I brought my water in,

3280
01:37:53,100 --> 01:37:55,100
but I am available

3281
01:37:55,100 --> 01:37:56,100
for any questions.

3282
01:37:56,100 --> 01:37:58,401
>> Hi. So I'll start

3283
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:10,100
with the new reports. The. So

3284
01:38:10,100 --> 01:38:12,100
we'll go

3285
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:15,401
over expenses and revenue,

3286
01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:17,100
which you have

3287
01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:19,100
in the staff report,

3288
01:38:19,100 --> 01:38:21,100
but I'll go over it through the

3289
01:38:21,100 --> 01:38:22,100
new reports that you have. So I

3290
01:38:22,100 --> 01:38:24,100
think the most glaring issue I

3291
01:38:24,100 --> 01:38:26,100
have with these new reports is

3292
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:28,100
that they don't actually have a

3293
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:29,100
column for our budget.

3294
01:38:29,100 --> 01:38:31,401
>> So the budget is

3295
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:34,401
on the very left

3296
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:39,100
of the expenditure reports.

3297
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:40,100
>> The year

3298
01:38:40,100 --> 01:38:41,100
to date projection.

3299
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:42,100
>> Yeah, that's correct.

3300
01:38:42,100 --> 01:38:43,100
>> Is that what you're calling.

3301
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:44,100
So we have amended and adopted

3302
01:38:44,100 --> 01:38:45,100
budgets, and that's neither

3303
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:46,100
of those. So our amended budget

3304
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:47,100
was 113 million

3305
01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:49,100
for the expenditures,

3306
01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:51,100
and that's not included

3307
01:38:51,100 --> 01:38:54,100
at all. So you have this year

3308
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:55,100
to date projection that has

3309
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:57,401
encumbrances and whatever it's

3310
01:38:59,100 --> 01:39:01,100
including 130 is not the budget

3311
01:39:01,100 --> 01:39:02,100
we adopted or amended.

3312
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:04,100
>> So that would include

3313
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:06,100
carryovers and encumbrances.

3314
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:07,100
>> Right. So there's no column

3315
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:09,100
in here for the actual amended

3316
01:39:09,100 --> 01:39:11,100
or adopted budget.

3317
01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:13,100
>> The column is only the

3318
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:15,100
amended budget. Are you saying

3319
01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:17,100
you would like

3320
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:18,100
to see a column that includes.

3321
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:20,100
Includes carryovers as a

3322
01:39:20,100 --> 01:39:21,100
separate column?

3323
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:22,100
>> Yeah. So in Our previous

3324
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:23,100
reports, there's always a

3325
01:39:23,100 --> 01:39:25,100
separate column.

3326
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:26,100
>> So just those.

3327
01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:27,100
>> You'd have to know what the

3328
01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:29,100
actual budget was. So we,

3329
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:30,100
we passed a budget. The budget

3330
01:39:30,100 --> 01:39:32,100
for this year is 113 million.

3331
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:33,100
It's not reflected anywhere.

3332
01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:36,100
So this 130 million is not the

3333
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:37,100
budget that we actually passed.

3334
01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:38,100
So that includes carryovers

3335
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:39,100
that. I know, I was not aware

3336
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:40,100
of what those carryovers were.

3337
01:39:40,100 --> 01:39:41,100
Had been asking about what

3338
01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:42,100
those carryovers are. There's

3339
01:39:42,100 --> 01:39:43,100
another report that says

3340
01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:44,100
there's 6 million,

3341
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:45,100
but this looks like there are

3342
01:39:45,100 --> 01:39:46,100
17.6 million

3343
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:47,100
in carryovers.

3344
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:48,100
>> Yeah. So the,

3345
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:50,100
the numbers would include

3346
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:51,100
carryovers, any amendments to

3347
01:39:51,100 --> 01:39:53,100
the budget that have been

3348
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:54,100
performed

3349
01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:55,100
over the past two years. So

3350
01:39:55,100 --> 01:39:57,100
it's not just inclusive

3351
01:39:57,100 --> 01:39:58,100
of carryovers. And the previous

3352
01:39:58,100 --> 01:39:59,100
reports didn't have the adopted

3353
01:39:59,100 --> 01:40:00,100
budget, it would be amended

3354
01:40:00,100 --> 01:40:02,100
budget plus carryovers and

3355
01:40:02,100 --> 01:40:03,100
encumbrances.

3356
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:04,100
>> Correct.

3357
01:40:04,100 --> 01:40:05,100
>> So amended budget is always

3358
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:06,100
a hard number to get to, you

3359
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:07,100
know, because,

3360
01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:08,100
because there's. You would have

3361
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:09,100
to go through all the staff

3362
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:11,100
reports that have gone

3363
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:13,100
to council for the two years

3364
01:40:13,100 --> 01:40:15,100
to calculate that number. But

3365
01:40:15,100 --> 01:40:16,100
this number does include those

3366
01:40:16,100 --> 01:40:18,100
items. It's not that it doesn't

3367
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:19,100
include it,

3368
01:40:19,100 --> 01:40:20,100
it's just that it's

3369
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:21,100
in one number now. And some of

3370
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:22,100
that is because the system is

3371
01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:23,100
drastically different. We used

3372
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:24,100
to, the way carryovers were

3373
01:40:24,100 --> 01:40:26,100
done, there was a separate

3374
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:28,100
like line in our budget

3375
01:40:28,100 --> 01:40:30,100
for it that no longer exists.

3376
01:40:30,100 --> 01:40:33,100
It's just different systems so

3377
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:35,100
different reports. So it would

3378
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:37,100
be a great deal

3379
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:38,100
of manual effort,

3380
01:40:38,100 --> 01:40:40,100
to be frank, to calculate the

3381
01:40:40,100 --> 01:40:42,100
amendments. I can certainly

3382
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:43,100
give you a number,

3383
01:40:43,100 --> 01:40:44,100
but it's not going to be. It's

3384
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:47,601
going to look different than I

3385
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:50,100
think you're expecting it to

3386
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:51,100
look. I could give you just a

3387
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:52,100
column that has budget

3388
01:40:52,100 --> 01:40:53,100
amendments, but that would be

3389
01:40:53,100 --> 01:40:55,100
all budget amendments,

3390
01:40:55,100 --> 01:40:56,100
including carryovers, including

3391
01:40:56,100 --> 01:40:57,100
the amendments that happen

3392
01:40:57,100 --> 01:40:58,100
from council. So I could

3393
01:40:58,100 --> 01:40:59,100
certainly give that to council

3394
01:40:59,100 --> 01:41:00,100
but I can't give it the same

3395
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:01,100
way that it's always been

3396
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:02,100
presented.

3397
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:03,100
>> So we have a budget that we

3398
01:41:03,100 --> 01:41:04,100
passed. So this, this is Q4.

3399
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:05,100
So this is the wrapping up,

3400
01:41:05,100 --> 01:41:07,100
it's the accounting. It should

3401
01:41:07,100 --> 01:41:08,100
be the end

3402
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:09,100
of the fiscal year. So we have

3403
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:11,100
had three months to reconcile

3404
01:41:11,100 --> 01:41:13,100
whatever outstanding things are

3405
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:16,100
coming. I've. I've been looking

3406
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:17,100
at. We haven't had three months

3407
01:41:17,100 --> 01:41:18,100
for a very long time.

3408
01:41:18,100 --> 01:41:19,100
>> So I have

3409
01:41:19,100 --> 01:41:20,100
to have this staff report done

3410
01:41:20,100 --> 01:41:21,100
about two weeks ago. So, you

3411
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:22,100
know, never has it been the

3412
01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:24,401
final numbers. We actually,

3413
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:26,100
in the past, in as 400 land we

3414
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:29,601
would do four closes. The first

3415
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:31,100
close was done in late July and

3416
01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:33,100
then we would do three more

3417
01:41:33,100 --> 01:41:35,401
subsequent Closes. The reports

3418
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:37,100
that came to council were the

3419
01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:38,100
first close. So I just want to

3420
01:41:38,100 --> 01:41:40,100
make it clear that this has

3421
01:41:40,100 --> 01:41:42,100
never been the same numbers

3422
01:41:42,100 --> 01:41:45,100
that would be in the audit.

3423
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:48,100
And so that hasn't changed.

3424
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:49,100
>> Sure. They're not the same

3425
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:50,100
numbers that are

3426
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:51,100
in the audit. I know that

3427
01:41:51,100 --> 01:41:52,100
for sure. But the issue for us

3428
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:53,100
is we have a budget that we

3429
01:41:53,100 --> 01:41:54,100
pass and we have

3430
01:41:54,100 --> 01:41:55,100
to track that budget. And so

3431
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:57,100
when I'm looking at my Q1, Q2,

3432
01:41:57,100 --> 01:42:01,100
Q3, Q4, I want to see how we're

3433
01:42:01,100 --> 01:42:02,100
tracking according

3434
01:42:02,100 --> 01:42:03,100
to the budget. And you don't

3435
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:04,100
include the budget here. So you

3436
01:42:04,100 --> 01:42:05,100
would think, if I'm a

3437
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:07,100
constituent,

3438
01:42:07,100 --> 01:42:10,100
that the budget is 130 million.

3439
01:42:10,100 --> 01:42:12,100
But I know I didn't approve

3440
01:42:12,100 --> 01:42:13,100
of $130 million of spending.

3441
01:42:13,100 --> 01:42:15,100
And when you call it savings, I

3442
01:42:15,100 --> 01:42:16,100
know because last year I heard

3443
01:42:16,100 --> 01:42:18,100
the word savings and thought

3444
01:42:18,100 --> 01:42:20,100
that meant I was

3445
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,100
below my budget, but I wasn't

3446
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:23,100
because that included the

3447
01:42:23,100 --> 01:42:25,100
carryovers.

3448
01:42:25,100 --> 01:42:27,100
>> When you say

3449
01:42:27,100 --> 01:42:28,100
below your budget,

3450
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:29,100
you were not

3451
01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:30,100
below your adopted budget.

3452
01:42:30,100 --> 01:42:31,100
>> Is what you're saying

3453
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:32,100
adopted or amended? Because the

3454
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:33,100
amended does not include

3455
01:42:33,100 --> 01:42:34,100
carryovers. The carryovers are

3456
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:35,100
the carryovers,

3457
01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:36,100
which I've had an issue with,

3458
01:42:36,100 --> 01:42:37,100
of understanding. Exactly. Can

3459
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:39,100
you let us know what the

3460
01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:40,100
carryovers are? So this report

3461
01:42:40,100 --> 01:42:41,100
that you have that it's 6

3462
01:42:41,100 --> 01:42:43,100
million,

3463
01:42:43,100 --> 01:42:44,100
can you tell me why that says

3464
01:42:44,100 --> 01:42:46,100
6 million? When this budget

3465
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:47,100
says that it's a.

3466
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:48,100
>> 17.6 million

3467
01:42:48,100 --> 01:42:50,100
in carryovers,

3468
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:51,100
it's not saying it's 17.6

3469
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:53,100
million. I'm not prepared to

3470
01:42:53,100 --> 01:42:54,100
give you the exact

3471
01:42:54,100 --> 01:42:55,100
reconciliation

3472
01:42:55,100 --> 01:42:56,100
between the adopted budget, the

3473
01:42:56,100 --> 01:42:57,100
amended budget and the

3474
01:42:57,100 --> 01:42:58,100
carryovers. I certainly can

3475
01:42:58,100 --> 01:42:59,100
provide that to you,

3476
01:42:59,100 --> 01:43:00,100
and I'll work on it tomorrow.

3477
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:02,100
And I'll give it to you

3478
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:03,100
off agenda tomorrow.

3479
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:06,100
But I think there's a little

3480
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:08,100
bit of hazing

3481
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:09,100
of the waters right now

3482
01:43:09,100 --> 01:43:11,401
between what is authorized

3483
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:13,100
from council. So I just want

3484
01:43:13,100 --> 01:43:16,100
to be clear. Carryovers are an

3485
01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:17,100
authorized mechanism

3486
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:19,100
of council

3487
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:21,401
through a council policy. 409.

3488
01:43:22,100 --> 01:43:24,100
So those are not, I don't want

3489
01:43:24,100 --> 01:43:26,100
to call them discretionary,

3490
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:28,100
but they're discretionary

3491
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:30,100
to some degree. Oftentimes they

3492
01:43:30,100 --> 01:43:33,100
are things that we just have to

3493
01:43:33,100 --> 01:43:34,100
finish using ARPA as an

3494
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:36,100
example. That's the biggest

3495
01:43:36,100 --> 01:43:38,100
contributor

3496
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:39,100
to our carryovers.

3497
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:40,100
>> Which is a grant. Our

3498
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:41,100
carryovers are carryovers,

3499
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:42,100
usually grants

3500
01:43:42,100 --> 01:43:43,100
in the general fund.

3501
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:44,100
>> Typically carryovers are

3502
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:45,100
grants.

3503
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:46,100
>> And are they typically

3504
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:47,100
capital for capital, typically

3505
01:43:47,100 --> 01:43:48,100
for personnel?

3506
01:43:48,100 --> 01:43:49,100
>> Yeah, typically they are

3507
01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:50,100
for. Well, let me,

3508
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:51,100
let me rephrase that. Just

3509
01:43:51,100 --> 01:43:52,100
because I think there's been

3510
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:53,100
some confusion over the years.

3511
01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:54,100
>> I'm not trying to get you.

3512
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:55,100
I'm legitimately trying to

3513
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:56,100
understand this new report

3514
01:43:56,100 --> 01:43:57,100
court, if it's really going

3515
01:43:57,100 --> 01:43:58,100
to work, because I,

3516
01:43:58,100 --> 01:43:59,100
I still don't have a budget.

3517
01:43:59,100 --> 01:44:00,100
So like in Q1, if we got this,

3518
01:44:00,100 --> 01:44:01,100
it would not show the budget

3519
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:02,100
that we just passed of 100 and

3520
01:44:02,100 --> 01:44:03,100
whatever it is, $108 million

3521
01:44:03,100 --> 01:44:04,100
of our budget. It would show a

3522
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:06,100
different number, but it would

3523
01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:07,100
only show a fraction of it. So

3524
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:08,100
I'm not going to know until Q4

3525
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:09,100
that the budget is way higher

3526
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:10,100
because I don't know what the

3527
01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:11,100
carryovers are,

3528
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:12,100
certainly.

3529
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:14,100
>> So the request I hear right

3530
01:44:14,100 --> 01:44:15,100
now, and I guess I'm kind

3531
01:44:15,100 --> 01:44:16,100
of looking

3532
01:44:16,100 --> 01:44:17,100
at every council member, is to

3533
01:44:17,100 --> 01:44:18,100
have a column that's adopted

3534
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:19,100
budget,

3535
01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:20,100
and then one that or.

3536
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:21,100
>> And.

3537
01:44:21,100 --> 01:44:22,100
>> Or amended.

3538
01:44:22,100 --> 01:44:23,100
>> Yeah, this is amended

3539
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:24,100
with carryovers.

3540
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:25,100
>> So I know because I've

3541
01:44:25,100 --> 01:44:27,100
looked at every single

3542
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:28,100
amendment that I could find and

3543
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:30,100
did this tedious work that

3544
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:31,100
you're talking

3545
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:32,100
about that I did not vote

3546
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:33,100
for this level of carryover.

3547
01:44:33,100 --> 01:44:36,100
So the best that I can assess

3548
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:37,100
is that years and years ago

3549
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:40,100
there was spending that was

3550
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:42,100
made and it just keeps carrying

3551
01:44:42,100 --> 01:44:44,100
over and we're still going. So

3552
01:44:44,100 --> 01:44:45,100
I know I didn't approve it and

3553
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:47,100
I don't even know what it is

3554
01:44:47,100 --> 01:44:49,100
because it's the first time

3555
01:44:49,100 --> 01:44:50,100
at least I've gotten this.

3556
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:51,100
But even still,

3557
01:44:51,100 --> 01:44:52,100
I don't know the adjustment

3558
01:44:52,100 --> 01:44:53,100
from what I voted for,

3559
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:54,100
what was a carryover. And so

3560
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:56,100
what the budget is that we're

3561
01:44:56,100 --> 01:44:57,100
talking about. So when you say

3562
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:59,100
on here that we have 12 million

3563
01:44:59,100 --> 01:45:01,100
of savings, I'm like, well,

3564
01:45:01,100 --> 01:45:02,100
is it. How much of that is

3565
01:45:02,100 --> 01:45:04,401
actually discretionary and how

3566
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:07,100
much of that is actually just

3567
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:09,100
like a grant? Because if you're

3568
01:45:09,100 --> 01:45:10,100
asking me for money

3569
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:11,100
for police, well,

3570
01:45:11,100 --> 01:45:12,100
they have got $900,000 in

3571
01:45:12,100 --> 01:45:13,100
savings use that I'm not going

3572
01:45:13,100 --> 01:45:14,100
to approve a budget.

3573
01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:15,100
>> Certainly a fair question.

3574
01:45:15,100 --> 01:45:16,100
One, there's so many points I

3575
01:45:16,100 --> 01:45:18,100
could answer off of that.

3576
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:19,100
But one thing I wanted

3577
01:45:19,100 --> 01:45:20,100
to say is I kind of alluded

3578
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:21,100
to it, but when we ask

3579
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:22,100
for budget,

3580
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:23,100
it's because they're

3581
01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:25,100
over budget in certain

3582
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:27,100
categories and we're taking

3583
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:28,100
into account use ARPA

3584
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:29,100
in the case of pd. Right. And

3585
01:45:29,100 --> 01:45:30,100
this will get into one

3586
01:45:30,100 --> 01:45:32,100
of your questions. Is that

3587
01:45:32,100 --> 01:45:33,100
typically capital or is it

3588
01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:35,100
personnel? And so what we

3589
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:36,100
usually do

3590
01:45:36,100 --> 01:45:37,100
with grants is we put them in

3591
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:38,100
like a special tracking account

3592
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:40,100
that historically speaking,

3593
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:41,100
when you adopted the budget,

3594
01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:42,100
it would say capital. And

3595
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:43,100
to be honest with you, it was

3596
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:45,100
not right all the time because

3597
01:45:45,100 --> 01:45:47,100
it would include, I call them,

3598
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:49,100
these specialty accounts that

3599
01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:50,100
aren't really capital. They're

3600
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:51,100
never going to be capitalized.

3601
01:45:51,100 --> 01:45:53,100
But it was a tracking

3602
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:54,100
mechanism. That our team would

3603
01:45:54,100 --> 01:45:56,100
use. We still have those

3604
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:57,100
accounts. That's the accounts

3605
01:45:57,100 --> 01:45:58,100
ARPA lives in. So it could be a

3606
01:45:58,100 --> 01:46:00,100
hybrid of personnel costs, but

3607
01:46:00,100 --> 01:46:02,100
it was kind of. I call it

3608
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:03,100
specialty tracking accounts

3609
01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:04,100
for the purposes

3610
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:05,100
of tracking some type

3611
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:07,100
of specific project. Use ARPA

3612
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:09,100
as a great example where we

3613
01:46:09,100 --> 01:46:10,100
need to report that out

3614
01:46:10,100 --> 01:46:11,100
to the federal government. So

3615
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:12,100
we need a quick place to go,

3616
01:46:12,100 --> 01:46:13,100
capture the expense and review

3617
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:15,100
the expense. You also asked a

3618
01:46:15,100 --> 01:46:16,100
question about the kind

3619
01:46:16,100 --> 01:46:18,100
of why are we asking for money

3620
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:20,100
if they have net savings?

3621
01:46:20,100 --> 01:46:22,100
>> No, what I'm saying is. So I

3622
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:23,100
would like to know. We are

3623
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:24,100
passing an amended. We're

3624
01:46:24,100 --> 01:46:26,100
passing an adopted budget

3625
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:27,100
by Q2. You're going

3626
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:29,100
to amend that. That happens

3627
01:46:29,100 --> 01:46:30,100
every year. We're going

3628
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:32,100
to amend it by Q2. Then it's an

3629
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:34,100
amended budget. I have asked in

3630
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:35,100
the ten year plan that you

3631
01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:37,100
start showing those adjustments

3632
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:38,100
again because you can't tell

3633
01:46:38,100 --> 01:46:40,100
where things have changed and

3634
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:42,100
if it's changed,

3635
01:46:42,100 --> 01:46:44,100
it's not readily obvious

3636
01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:46,100
to you. You have

3637
01:46:46,100 --> 01:46:47,100
to go back and find the rest

3638
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:48,100
of your paper anyways. So

3639
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:49,100
that's not included. This also

3640
01:46:49,100 --> 01:46:50,100
does not include the

3641
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:51,100
adjustments because these

3642
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:52,100
carryovers are an adjustment or

3643
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:53,100
it's a.

3644
01:46:53,100 --> 01:46:54,100
>> Previously it includes it

3645
01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:55,100
in the number. Right.

3646
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:57,100
>> So that the number doesn't

3647
01:46:57,100 --> 01:46:58,100
actually help.

3648
01:46:58,100 --> 01:46:59,100
>> But it doesn't help you

3649
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:00,100
delineate.

3650
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:01,100
>> And it doesn't help me

3651
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:02,100
to delineate if I'm actually

3652
01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:03,100
under budget. Because

3653
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:04,100
like you said, if I'm

3654
01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:05,100
under budget for police,

3655
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:06,100
which is what you're saying

3656
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:07,100
to me, but I'm actually not

3657
01:47:07,100 --> 01:47:08,100
because that money is

3658
01:47:08,100 --> 01:47:09,100
designated. It's encumbered

3659
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:10,100
funds

3660
01:47:10,100 --> 01:47:11,100
for something specific.

3661
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:12,100
>> Yeah.

3662
01:47:12,100 --> 01:47:13,100
>> And so that creates a lot

3663
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:14,100
of muddiness in the water. To

3664
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:15,100
understand what are we talking

3665
01:47:15,100 --> 01:47:16,100
about when you say we're

3666
01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:17,100
under budget? We're not

3667
01:47:17,100 --> 01:47:18,100
actually under budget in a way

3668
01:47:18,100 --> 01:47:19,100
that we actually have

3669
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:21,100
discretionary funds

3670
01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:22,100
to cover it.

3671
01:47:22,100 --> 01:47:23,100
>> Yeah, we, we are

3672
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:24,100
under budget in the sense of

3673
01:47:24,100 --> 01:47:25,100
Council has given staff an

3674
01:47:25,100 --> 01:47:26,100
adopted budget. We've made

3675
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:28,401
amendments and there are

3676
01:47:29,100 --> 01:47:30,100
certain tools as,

3677
01:47:30,100 --> 01:47:32,100
as we're talking. I'm thinking

3678
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:33,100
about rolling stock is another

3679
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:34,100
example

3680
01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:35,100
of a tool that is discretionary

3681
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:37,100
to staff that council has given

3682
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:39,100
us to be able to move money

3683
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:40,100
from our rolling stock

3684
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:42,100
into our budget

3685
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:44,100
without council approval,

3686
01:47:44,100 --> 01:47:45,100
so.

3687
01:47:45,100 --> 01:47:47,100
>> Oh, I didn't know that.

3688
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:48,100
>> Yeah, Rolling stock and

3689
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:49,100
equipment replacement,

3690
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:50,100
they can be pretty large.

3691
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:51,100
Right. So there's another area

3692
01:47:51,100 --> 01:47:52,100
where staff is amending budget

3693
01:47:52,100 --> 01:47:53,100
that we've been given the

3694
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:54,100
authority

3695
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:55,100
through council policy

3696
01:47:55,100 --> 01:47:56,100
to make those amendments.

3697
01:47:56,100 --> 01:47:57,100
Carryovers is much the same.

3698
01:47:57,100 --> 01:47:58,100
So again,

3699
01:47:58,100 --> 01:48:00,100
I hear what you're asking

3700
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:01,100
for and I Because I'm not

3701
01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:02,100
prepared to answer that exact

3702
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:04,401
question. I would like

3703
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:06,100
to give it

3704
01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:07,100
to you and see if what I'm able

3705
01:48:07,100 --> 01:48:09,100
to generate is what you're

3706
01:48:09,100 --> 01:48:11,100
looking for or not.

3707
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:12,100
>> Yes. And I think

3708
01:48:12,100 --> 01:48:13,100
for the next report,

3709
01:48:13,100 --> 01:48:15,100
getting as close

3710
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:16,100
to how we are able to look at

3711
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:17,100
what actually we're tracking.

3712
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:18,100
So if we're tracking the budget

3713
01:48:18,100 --> 01:48:19,100
really tight and this is

3714
01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:21,100
including carryovers,

3715
01:48:21,100 --> 01:48:22,100
we're not tracking it tight

3716
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:23,100
at all. We're actually not even

3717
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:25,100
sure what that budget is.

3718
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:26,100
Because why exactly are we

3719
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:28,100
amending or adopting a budget

3720
01:48:28,100 --> 01:48:30,100
if you've already decided it's

3721
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:32,100
going to include 13 million or

3722
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:33,100
17 million? So

3723
01:48:33,100 --> 01:48:35,100
like what are the carryovers?

3724
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:36,100
Because we're going

3725
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:39,100
to get a budget, we're going

3726
01:48:39,100 --> 01:48:40,100
to get Q1 in November. And

3727
01:48:40,100 --> 01:48:42,100
what's it going

3728
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:43,100
to show up as? Are you going

3729
01:48:43,100 --> 01:48:44,100
to add?

3730
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:45,100
>> The carryovers this time are

3731
01:48:45,100 --> 01:48:47,100
going to be a lot smaller

3732
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:48,100
because we've spent most

3733
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:50,100
of that ARPA funding. We don't

3734
01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:51,100
have a lot

3735
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:52,100
of grants outstanding. So the

3736
01:48:52,100 --> 01:48:54,100
carriers are going

3737
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:55,100
to be a lot smaller.

3738
01:48:55,100 --> 01:48:57,100
>> Do you know what they are?

3739
01:48:57,100 --> 01:48:58,100
>> I don't know right now

3740
01:48:58,100 --> 01:48:59,100
because we're working

3741
01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:00,100
on generating the list for

3742
01:49:00,100 --> 01:49:01,100
Barry's approval with staff. I

3743
01:49:01,100 --> 01:49:02,100
do know how much we have in

3744
01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:03,100
encumbrances and I usually talk

3745
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:05,100
about this. Streets is part

3746
01:49:05,100 --> 01:49:07,100
of the general fund,

3747
01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:09,100
but I remove Streets because

3748
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:12,100
they have a funding source

3749
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:14,100
that's actually going to come

3750
01:49:14,100 --> 01:49:16,100
in to offset their carryovers.

3751
01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:18,100
I think we have about $1

3752
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:19,100
million in encumbrances. I'm

3753
01:49:19,100 --> 01:49:20,100
actually going

3754
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:21,100
through the list

3755
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:22,100
to see if there's anything in

3756
01:49:22,100 --> 01:49:23,100
there that can be released or

3757
01:49:23,100 --> 01:49:24,100
we don't need anymore. So

3758
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:25,100
there's about $1 million there.

3759
01:49:25,100 --> 01:49:26,100
And then I believe the

3760
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:28,100
carryovers will be somewhere

3761
01:49:28,100 --> 01:49:29,100
around 1.5 million to 2

3762
01:49:29,100 --> 01:49:31,100
million, no more than that. So

3763
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:32,100
between those two you would

3764
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:33,100
have about $3 million

3765
01:49:33,100 --> 01:49:35,100
at most. I will also add, I

3766
01:49:35,100 --> 01:49:36,100
think this is an important

3767
01:49:36,100 --> 01:49:37,100
comment is when, when we look

3768
01:49:37,100 --> 01:49:39,100
at the ten year plan, right.

3769
01:49:39,100 --> 01:49:40,100
It's never matched the amended

3770
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:41,100
budget that's in this,

3771
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:42,100
the total amended budget that's

3772
01:49:42,100 --> 01:49:44,100
in these reports ever.

3773
01:49:44,100 --> 01:49:45,100
But just one point

3774
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:46,100
of clarification. Sorry. And

3775
01:49:46,100 --> 01:49:48,100
then I'll let you ask your

3776
01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:50,100
question. What we do and what

3777
01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:51,100
we've always done is we say,

3778
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:52,100
hey,

3779
01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:53,100
here's my audited cash number

3780
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:54,100
from the auditors. In the case

3781
01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:55,100
of last year, it was 23

3782
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:57,100
million. I knew we had

3783
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:58,100
encumbrances. I want

3784
01:49:58,100 --> 01:50:00,100
to say it was 3 million ish.

3785
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:01,100
And then we had these

3786
01:50:01,100 --> 01:50:03,100
carryovers of 6. So I actually

3787
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:05,100
lowered our cash

3788
01:50:05,100 --> 01:50:06,100
by those encumbrances

3789
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:07,100
in the general fund 10 year

3790
01:50:07,100 --> 01:50:09,100
plan. So I didn't use 23

3791
01:50:09,100 --> 01:50:11,100
million, which was the number

3792
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:12,100
that you would have taken off

3793
01:50:12,100 --> 01:50:13,100
the act for. I used a lower

3794
01:50:13,100 --> 01:50:14,100
number because I actually go

3795
01:50:14,100 --> 01:50:15,100
in and say, okay,

3796
01:50:15,100 --> 01:50:16,100
I'm not going to go amend my

3797
01:50:16,100 --> 01:50:17,100
10 year plan,

3798
01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:18,100
my financial planning tool

3799
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:19,100
by this. I'm instead going to

3800
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:20,100
lower my cash because it's

3801
01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:22,100
spoken for, so to speak, right

3802
01:50:22,100 --> 01:50:23,100
through the encumbrances. So I

3803
01:50:23,100 --> 01:50:25,100
do want to put,

3804
01:50:25,100 --> 01:50:26,100
just put some context

3805
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:27,100
around that

3806
01:50:27,100 --> 01:50:28,100
to help better understand some

3807
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:30,100
of those movements.

3808
01:50:30,100 --> 01:50:31,100
>> Not only do I understand

3809
01:50:31,100 --> 01:50:32,100
that I'm counting on that

3810
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:33,100
because obviously if the money

3811
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:34,100
is spoken for, it is not our

3812
01:50:34,100 --> 01:50:35,100
actual reserve discretionary

3813
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:37,100
funding, which is what our cash

3814
01:50:37,100 --> 01:50:39,100
reserves are. So those are

3815
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:41,100
different things. So I don't

3816
01:50:41,100 --> 01:50:42,100
want them muddied in all mixed

3817
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:43,100
in together. There has

3818
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:46,100
to be some delineation. So if

3819
01:50:46,100 --> 01:50:47,100
you're going to like. I would

3820
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:48,100
like to go back to how it used

3821
01:50:48,100 --> 01:50:49,100
to be reported before 23:24,

3822
01:50:49,100 --> 01:50:52,100
like previous to that, all of

3823
01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:55,601
the reports that we had going

3824
01:50:56,100 --> 01:50:58,100
back to 2017, 2016, like the

3825
01:50:58,100 --> 01:51:00,100
way that these reports were

3826
01:51:00,100 --> 01:51:02,100
being given to us in multiple

3827
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:04,100
different explanations because

3828
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:06,100
of that reason, because a

3829
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:07,100
budget that I passed that it's

3830
01:51:07,100 --> 01:51:09,100
108 million of expenditures,

3831
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:11,100
but you have five typically

3832
01:51:11,100 --> 01:51:13,401
carryovers were like 3 million,

3833
01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:16,100
2 million, 5 million. But then

3834
01:51:16,100 --> 01:51:18,100
after 2022 we're up to.

3835
01:51:18,100 --> 01:51:19,100
>> 30 million and that was

3836
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:20,100
mostly because of ARPA.

3837
01:51:20,100 --> 01:51:22,100
>> Right. And that was just

3838
01:51:22,100 --> 01:51:23,100
quite large.

3839
01:51:23,100 --> 01:51:25,401
But being not here,

3840
01:51:26,100 --> 01:51:27,100
I didn't know that. So when

3841
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:29,100
you're reporting

3842
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:30,100
to us that we're

3843
01:51:30,100 --> 01:51:31,100
below budget,

3844
01:51:31,100 --> 01:51:32,100
we're not actually

3845
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:33,100
below our actual budget, our

3846
01:51:33,100 --> 01:51:35,100
10 year budget, we're below

3847
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:36,100
this large huge carryover

3848
01:51:36,100 --> 01:51:37,100
budget. So what I hear you

3849
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:38,100
saying is we don't have those

3850
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:40,401
carryovers because ARPA money

3851
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:42,100
is going to be gone now. And so

3852
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:43,100
we're going to get back.

3853
01:51:43,100 --> 01:51:44,100
>> To a more normal 2 to 3

3854
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,100
million.

3855
01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:47,100
>> 2 to 3 million of carryovers

3856
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:49,100
are not going

3857
01:51:49,100 --> 01:51:52,601
to be such a huge factor.

3858
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:54,100
But I do think again for

3859
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:56,100
transparency purposes and so

3860
01:51:56,100 --> 01:51:57,100
that we actually know apples

3861
01:51:57,100 --> 01:51:59,100
to apples, that we're

3862
01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:00,100
comparing, having the amended

3863
01:52:00,100 --> 01:52:01,100
or the adopted budget has

3864
01:52:01,100 --> 01:52:02,100
to be included

3865
01:52:02,100 --> 01:52:03,100
in the expenditures.

3866
01:52:03,100 --> 01:52:05,100
>> Certainly I want

3867
01:52:05,100 --> 01:52:06,100
to take a stab at it

3868
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:08,100
with what would be, I'm going

3869
01:52:08,100 --> 01:52:09,100
to say easy from Oracle and see

3870
01:52:09,100 --> 01:52:10,100
if that meets your needs and

3871
01:52:10,100 --> 01:52:12,100
then we can have a discussion

3872
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:14,100
around what Oracle doesn't give

3873
01:52:14,100 --> 01:52:15,100
me, that I used to get out

3874
01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:17,100
of the AS 400 very easily. And

3875
01:52:17,100 --> 01:52:18,100
so let me try it first and see

3876
01:52:18,100 --> 01:52:20,100
if you're happy

3877
01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:22,100
with what I'm able to generate

3878
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:23,100
or if it just creates more

3879
01:52:23,100 --> 01:52:25,100
questions. But I would look at

3880
01:52:25,100 --> 01:52:27,100
this process as semi iterative.

3881
01:52:27,100 --> 01:52:29,100
Right. So hey, here's the

3882
01:52:29,100 --> 01:52:31,100
reports as I thought that they

3883
01:52:31,100 --> 01:52:32,100
would be useful for council.

3884
01:52:32,100 --> 01:52:34,100
Does council want to see

3885
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:36,100
something different? I

3886
01:52:36,100 --> 01:52:37,100
certainly hear your request.

3887
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:38,100
It makes sense

3888
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:40,100
to me. I think I'll be able

3889
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:41,100
to give you something. It might

3890
01:52:41,100 --> 01:52:42,100
not be exactly what you're

3891
01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:43,100
after.

3892
01:52:43,100 --> 01:52:44,100
>> Well, the previous staff

3893
01:52:44,100 --> 01:52:45,100
reports

3894
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:46,100
in the staff report would talk

3895
01:52:46,100 --> 01:52:48,100
about basically the budgeted

3896
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:49,100
items. It would tell you that

3897
01:52:49,100 --> 01:52:51,100
you made, you know,

3898
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:52,100
like what is considered

3899
01:52:52,100 --> 01:52:53,100
in the revenue,

3900
01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:55,100
not including the transfers you

3901
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:56,100
made, you know, 98 million or

3902
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:58,100
99 million. It would give you

3903
01:52:58,100 --> 01:52:59,100
that information that would

3904
01:52:59,100 --> 01:53:01,100
look like what it's going

3905
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:03,100
to look like on the ten year.

3906
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:05,100
But then when you got into the

3907
01:53:05,100 --> 01:53:06,100
budget explanations and you got

3908
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:07,100
into the reports,

3909
01:53:07,100 --> 01:53:08,100
that's talking

3910
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:09,100
about everything. So you saw

3911
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:10,100
the budget line, but you also

3912
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:11,100
saw the encumbrances,

3913
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:12,100
you saw the carryovers,

3914
01:53:12,100 --> 01:53:13,100
you saw previously approved

3915
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:14,100
monies, which are typically

3916
01:53:14,100 --> 01:53:15,100
grants, all of that. So as long

3917
01:53:15,100 --> 01:53:16,100
as it's all being presented

3918
01:53:16,100 --> 01:53:17,100
to us, we can parse

3919
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:18,100
out which is which. But when

3920
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:19,100
those numbers are not included,

3921
01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:20,100
which they're not included

3922
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:21,100
in here, it's very hard to

3923
01:53:21,100 --> 01:53:22,100
distinguish which is which

3924
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:23,100
because I know I didn't approve

3925
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:24,100
on $130 million budget. I know

3926
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:25,100
they didn't and they were here

3927
01:53:25,100 --> 01:53:26,100
for half that time. They didn't

3928
01:53:26,100 --> 01:53:27,100
approve those either. So

3929
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:28,100
clearly those came

3930
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:29,100
from something else. So this

3931
01:53:29,100 --> 01:53:30,100
12 million that's left,

3932
01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:31,100
that's not going

3933
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:32,100
to continue forward.

3934
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:34,100
>> Only a small piece

3935
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:36,100
of it will continue forward.

3936
01:53:36,100 --> 01:53:38,100
As I said,

3937
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:39,100
my guess right now is about $3

3938
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:40,100
million of it.

3939
01:53:40,100 --> 01:53:41,100
>> So the rest just goes away.

3940
01:53:41,100 --> 01:53:42,100
>> Well, that's not entirely

3941
01:53:42,100 --> 01:53:43,100
true. And you also have streets

3942
01:53:43,100 --> 01:53:44,100
in there that has their

3943
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:46,100
carryovers, so.

3944
01:53:46,100 --> 01:53:47,100
>> Which you didn't include.

3945
01:53:47,100 --> 01:53:49,100
But so if I, if you include

3946
01:53:49,100 --> 01:53:50,100
streets, we're up to another

3947
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:51,100
10 or 11 again.

3948
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:53,100
>> 10 or 11? Yeah.

3949
01:53:53,100 --> 01:53:55,100
>> So we're up to 10. So it's

3950
01:53:55,100 --> 01:53:57,100
about that 12 million is what

3951
01:53:57,100 --> 01:53:58,100
is going to be the carryover.

3952
01:53:58,100 --> 01:53:59,100
>> I don't expect it

3953
01:53:59,100 --> 01:54:01,401
to be that large,

3954
01:54:03,100 --> 01:54:04,100
but it could be that large. But

3955
01:54:04,100 --> 01:54:05,100
we also have revenues that

3956
01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:07,100
obviously are coming in next

3957
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:10,100
year that we weren't accounting

3958
01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:11,100
for without having done that

3959
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:14,100
work. I don't want to give an

3960
01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:15,100
exact number because we're

3961
01:54:15,100 --> 01:54:16,100
still in the process of. I

3962
01:54:16,100 --> 01:54:17,100
literally think my team right

3963
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:18,100
now this week is closing all

3964
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:19,100
the grants out, making sure all

3965
01:54:19,100 --> 01:54:20,100
the expenses that are in the

3966
01:54:20,100 --> 01:54:22,100
grant accounts are accurately

3967
01:54:22,100 --> 01:54:23,100
accounted for and our capital

3968
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:24,100
accounts and all of These

3969
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:26,100
things that we have to do

3970
01:54:26,100 --> 01:54:28,100
for year end, as they finish

3971
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:29,100
that, it really tells us how

3972
01:54:29,100 --> 01:54:31,100
much money is available

3973
01:54:31,100 --> 01:54:33,100
from a budgetary standpoint

3974
01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:35,100
for potential carryovers. And

3975
01:54:35,100 --> 01:54:37,100
so I'd really like to. I would

3976
01:54:37,100 --> 01:54:38,100
like to finish that process

3977
01:54:38,100 --> 01:54:39,100
before I try to commit

3978
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:40,100
to a number.

3979
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:41,100
>> Okay. The reason I bring

3980
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:42,100
that up is because you put it

3981
01:54:42,100 --> 01:54:43,100
on the slide as savings.

3982
01:54:43,100 --> 01:54:45,401
>> Understood. So it's savings

3983
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:49,100
that could be carried over

3984
01:54:49,100 --> 01:54:51,100
at the approval

3985
01:54:51,100 --> 01:54:52,100
of the city manager, but

3986
01:54:52,100 --> 01:54:53,100
at this point,

3987
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:54,100
it is truly savings.

3988
01:54:54,100 --> 01:54:55,100
>> Right.

3989
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:57,100
>> So there's a potential that

3990
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:58,100
it gets carried over if there's

3991
01:54:58,100 --> 01:54:59,100
projects that warrant it. But.

3992
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:01,100
But at this point right now,

3993
01:55:01,100 --> 01:55:02,100
it's not encumbered. So the.

3994
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:03,100
>> The streets money's not

3995
01:55:03,100 --> 01:55:05,100
encumbered.

3996
01:55:05,100 --> 01:55:06,100
>> The street's money is

3997
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:07,100
unencumbered at this point. It

3998
01:55:07,100 --> 01:55:08,100
might be allocated

3999
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:10,100
to a project, but they haven't

4000
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:11,100
issued a contract yet.

4001
01:55:11,100 --> 01:55:13,100
>> But it's for streets.

4002
01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:14,100
>> It's for streets.

4003
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:15,100
>> It's for streets. So we

4004
01:55:15,100 --> 01:55:16,100
didn't. Our general fund

4005
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:17,100
doesn't have $12 million.

4006
01:55:17,100 --> 01:55:18,100
>> No.

4007
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:19,100
>> And.

4008
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:20,100
>> And if you read my

4009
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:21,100
breakdown, I don't. I'm not

4010
01:55:21,100 --> 01:55:22,100
suggesting that the difference

4011
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:23,100
is $12 million. I actually kind

4012
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:24,100
of break it down to, you know,

4013
01:55:24,100 --> 01:55:26,100
maybe we have four or five

4014
01:55:26,100 --> 01:55:27,100
million dollars

4015
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:28,100
of real savings. When you.

4016
01:55:28,100 --> 01:55:29,100
When you net off the. I'd have

4017
01:55:29,100 --> 01:55:31,100
to give you a full breakdown. I

4018
01:55:31,100 --> 01:55:32,100
have it written down somewhere

4019
01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:33,100
in here. When you net

4020
01:55:33,100 --> 01:55:34,100
off the carryovers,

4021
01:55:34,100 --> 01:55:35,100
I think we're looking at

4022
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:36,100
like one, maybe $2 million of

4023
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:38,100
savings that are true savings.

4024
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:41,100
And then we have revenues that

4025
01:55:41,100 --> 01:55:42,100
would be below. But then we

4026
01:55:42,100 --> 01:55:43,100
also have revenues that we know

4027
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:44,100
are coming in.

4028
01:55:44,100 --> 01:55:45,100
In future years,

4029
01:55:45,100 --> 01:55:47,100
but that would.

4030
01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:48,100
>> Future year revenue wouldn't

4031
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:49,100
be talking about the closing.

4032
01:55:49,100 --> 01:55:50,100
End of last year's budget,

4033
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:51,100
but it's.

4034
01:55:51,100 --> 01:55:52,100
>> Talking about what we can

4035
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:53,100
expect in.

4036
01:55:53,100 --> 01:55:54,100
>> Terms of cash

4037
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:56,100
for next year.

4038
01:55:56,100 --> 01:55:57,100
>> For next year.

4039
01:55:57,100 --> 01:55:58,100
>> Right, but this is. We're

4040
01:55:58,100 --> 01:55:59,100
talking about closing it out.

4041
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:01,100
So cash has

4042
01:56:01,100 --> 01:56:02,100
to be already done by. By June

4043
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:03,100
30th. So we're not talking.

4044
01:56:03,100 --> 01:56:04,100
This is.

4045
01:56:04,100 --> 01:56:05,100
>> But as I said, we adjust

4046
01:56:05,100 --> 01:56:06,100
cash for a variety

4047
01:56:06,100 --> 01:56:07,100
of factors. Right.

4048
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:09,100
>> Namely getting cash should

4049
01:56:09,100 --> 01:56:10,100
be what's. Based

4050
01:56:10,100 --> 01:56:12,100
on what we have

4051
01:56:12,100 --> 01:56:13,100
for cash now.

4052
01:56:13,100 --> 01:56:15,100
>> It is based on that.

4053
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:16,100
>> Right. So it wouldn't be

4054
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:17,100
affected by revenue that comes

4055
01:56:17,100 --> 01:56:18,100
in later that we can use

4056
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:20,100
in next year's budget.

4057
01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:22,100
>> Well, you're

4058
01:56:22,100 --> 01:56:24,100
in the future,

4059
01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:26,100
so that would be end.

4060
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:27,100
>> End cash.

4061
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:28,100
>> We're gonna. We're gonna see

4062
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:29,100
revenues next year that we can

4063
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:30,100
count on for $2.3 million as an

4064
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:31,100
example for safer that 2.2.

4065
01:56:31,100 --> 01:56:33,100
>> Sorry, but you expended that

4066
01:56:33,100 --> 01:56:34,100
this year.

4067
01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:35,100
>> We expended it this year.

4068
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:36,100
>> And you're gonna let it go

4069
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:38,100
and then use it

4070
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:39,100
in the next.

4071
01:56:39,100 --> 01:56:40,100
>> We will receive the revenue

4072
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:41,100
in the next year. So. So.

4073
01:56:41,100 --> 01:56:43,100
Meaning we won't budget

4074
01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:44,100
for that revenue,

4075
01:56:44,100 --> 01:56:45,100
but we're going to get it.

4076
01:56:45,100 --> 01:56:46,100
Right.

4077
01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:48,100
>> So reimburse yourself.

4078
01:56:49,100 --> 01:56:50,100
>> We're. Yeah, we're going

4079
01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:52,100
to get reimbursed

4080
01:56:52,100 --> 01:56:53,100
by the federal government.

4081
01:56:53,100 --> 01:56:55,100
>> Okay. So that. And that. So

4082
01:56:55,100 --> 01:56:57,100
that. Let's talk about the,

4083
01:56:57,100 --> 01:56:58,100
the general fund reserves. Can

4084
01:56:58,100 --> 01:56:59,100
I ask a clarifying

4085
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:00,100
for a minute? Can I ask a

4086
01:57:00,100 --> 01:57:02,100
clarifying question? Just.

4087
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:03,100
Yeah, absolutely. Were you

4088
01:57:03,100 --> 01:57:05,100
suggest. Were you requesting.

4089
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:06,100
>> Just so that I am clear on.

4090
01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:08,100
>> What it was that. That you

4091
01:57:08,100 --> 01:57:10,100
were asking because we have

4092
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:11,100
amended budget actuals over or

4093
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:12,100
under in the percentage.

4094
01:57:12,100 --> 01:57:13,100
You're also asking

4095
01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:15,401
for one more so

4096
01:57:16,100 --> 01:57:18,100
on the expenditures

4097
01:57:18,100 --> 01:57:19,100
on the actual revenue compared

4098
01:57:19,100 --> 01:57:20,100
to cash flow estimates year

4099
01:57:20,100 --> 01:57:21,100
to date. Yeah. So the two

4100
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:22,100
expenditure ones don't include

4101
01:57:22,100 --> 01:57:23,100
the actual budget. I'm just

4102
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:25,100
asking, are you wanting one

4103
01:57:25,100 --> 01:57:27,100
more line that essentially is

4104
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:28,100
sort of like a red line,

4105
01:57:28,100 --> 01:57:29,100
although you would use red

4106
01:57:29,100 --> 01:57:31,100
in finance. But no, no, the

4107
01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:32,100
first line should be your

4108
01:57:32,100 --> 01:57:34,100
actual budget. So we're

4109
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:36,100
talking. It's a budget

4110
01:57:36,100 --> 01:57:37,100
document. So we're talking

4111
01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:38,100
about the budget that we

4112
01:57:38,100 --> 01:57:39,100
passed. So the first line would

4113
01:57:39,100 --> 01:57:41,100
be your adopted or your amended

4114
01:57:41,100 --> 01:57:43,100
budget.

4115
01:57:43,100 --> 01:57:44,100
>> It's our amended.

4116
01:57:44,100 --> 01:57:46,100
>> Yeah, it's your amended. I

4117
01:57:46,100 --> 01:57:47,100
am asking. The thing you were

4118
01:57:47,100 --> 01:57:49,100
asking Mr. Robinette

4119
01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:51,100
for is that you would like

4120
01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:53,100
another column that gives you

4121
01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:56,100
what it was that we approved

4122
01:57:56,100 --> 01:57:57,100
and then an amended so that you

4123
01:57:57,100 --> 01:57:59,100
can compare the two. Well,

4124
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:00,100
for two of those. Is that what

4125
01:58:00,100 --> 01:58:01,100
you were asking him to do? I

4126
01:58:01,100 --> 01:58:02,100
understand the confusion

4127
01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:04,100
because I was talking

4128
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:05,100
about this.

4129
01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:07,100
But then also what we're going

4130
01:58:07,100 --> 01:58:09,100
to get in November. So for

4131
01:58:09,100 --> 01:58:11,100
that's probably why I'm using

4132
01:58:11,100 --> 01:58:13,100
two different words.

4133
01:58:14,100 --> 01:58:15,100
>> Can I add a little bit

4134
01:58:15,100 --> 01:58:16,100
of context?

4135
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:17,100
>> It would be an amended. It

4136
01:58:17,100 --> 01:58:18,100
would be the amended budget.

4137
01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:19,100
The amended budget is not 130

4138
01:58:19,100 --> 01:58:20,100
million. The amended budget

4139
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:21,100
would be what's on the 10 year.

4140
01:58:21,100 --> 01:58:22,100
And then you would have

4141
01:58:22,100 --> 01:58:23,100
whatever the previous ones

4142
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:24,100
on the next one, November 1st,

4143
01:58:24,100 --> 01:58:26,100
which is the Q1 that's going

4144
01:58:26,100 --> 01:58:28,100
to be our adopted budget.

4145
01:58:28,100 --> 01:58:30,100
Yeah, I, yeah, that's. What is

4146
01:58:30,100 --> 01:58:31,100
that? Does that clarify it?

4147
01:58:31,100 --> 01:58:33,100
Sure. No.

4148
01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:38,100
>> I just wanted to say some of

4149
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:39,100
these reports will look

4150
01:58:39,100 --> 01:58:40,100
slightly different when it's

4151
01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:42,100
not the year end and they all

4152
01:58:42,100 --> 01:58:45,100
look very similar because some

4153
01:58:45,100 --> 01:58:48,100
of the reports do cash flow

4154
01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:49,100
versus actual and then some

4155
01:58:49,100 --> 01:58:51,100
bring in, you know,

4156
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:53,100
the total budget. And so that

4157
01:58:53,100 --> 01:58:55,100
I'm trying

4158
01:58:55,100 --> 01:58:57,100
to replicate as best I can.

4159
01:58:57,100 --> 01:58:58,100
It's going to be impossible

4160
01:58:58,100 --> 01:59:00,100
to replicate what we Used

4161
01:59:00,100 --> 01:59:01,100
to have. And that's the one

4162
01:59:01,100 --> 01:59:02,100
thing I just want

4163
01:59:02,100 --> 01:59:04,100
to make clear. I'll do my best,

4164
01:59:04,100 --> 01:59:05,100
but just the tool is different,

4165
01:59:05,100 --> 01:59:08,601
so I can't get the information

4166
01:59:09,100 --> 01:59:10,100
out of it. The exact same. And

4167
01:59:10,100 --> 01:59:12,100
frankly, this is part

4168
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:14,100
of why currently I'm doing it

4169
01:59:14,100 --> 01:59:15,100
with data extracts and

4170
01:59:15,100 --> 01:59:17,100
presenting the information so

4171
01:59:17,100 --> 01:59:18,100
that we can come

4172
01:59:18,100 --> 01:59:19,100
to a general consensus

4173
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:20,100
of what this Council wants

4174
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:21,100
to see from these reports,

4175
01:59:21,100 --> 01:59:23,100
what's useful to them relative

4176
01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:25,100
to what we're actually able

4177
01:59:25,100 --> 01:59:26,100
to even provide

4178
01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:28,100
with relative ease.

4179
01:59:29,100 --> 01:59:31,401
>> Does that. Yeah. So

4180
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:33,100
for this one, obviously,

4181
01:59:33,100 --> 01:59:36,100
if you could. But that would

4182
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:38,100
actually have to. Then these

4183
01:59:38,100 --> 01:59:39,100
would be the carryover. You

4184
01:59:39,100 --> 01:59:40,000
have to put the carryovers

4185
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:42,100
in there. And now for this one

4186
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:43,100
is different because usually

4187
01:59:43,100 --> 01:59:44,100
you have the month in there.

4188
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:45,100
This doesn't include the actual

4189
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:46,100
month.

4190
01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:47,100
>> So that's a question I

4191
01:59:47,100 --> 01:59:48,100
actually had for council. We

4192
01:59:48,100 --> 01:59:49,100
used to include month,

4193
01:59:49,100 --> 01:59:50,100
because these reports, many,

4194
01:59:50,100 --> 01:59:51,100
many, many years ago used

4195
01:59:51,100 --> 01:59:53,100
to come to Council monthly. I

4196
01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:54,100
personally find the monthly

4197
01:59:54,100 --> 01:59:55,100
information to be, for a

4198
01:59:55,100 --> 01:59:56,100
Council member, not super

4199
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:57,100
useful,

4200
01:59:57,100 --> 01:59:58,100
but I can certainly add it.

4201
01:59:58,100 --> 02:00:00,100
Just the more information we

4202
02:00:00,100 --> 02:00:01,100
add, you know,

4203
02:00:01,100 --> 02:00:03,100
the wider the reports get and

4204
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:05,100
so on and so forth. But I can

4205
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:07,100
certainly add the monthly

4206
02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:09,100
information. That's not hard

4207
02:00:09,100 --> 02:00:10,100
to do. It's just a question

4208
02:00:10,100 --> 02:00:11,100
of whether Council finds it

4209
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:13,100
pertinent, especially

4210
02:00:13,100 --> 02:00:14,100
considering we now do quarterly

4211
02:00:14,100 --> 02:00:15,100
updates instead

4212
02:00:15,100 --> 02:00:16,100
of monthly updates, like we're

4213
02:00:16,100 --> 02:00:18,100
done when those reports were

4214
02:00:18,100 --> 02:00:19,100
originally generated. So I'll

4215
02:00:19,100 --> 02:00:21,100
look to Council. We want the

4216
02:00:21,100 --> 02:00:22,100
monthly information.

4217
02:00:22,100 --> 02:00:23,100
>> I've used the quarterly

4218
02:00:23,100 --> 02:00:24,100
reports usually have that last

4219
02:00:24,100 --> 02:00:25,100
month. It's just good to see,

4220
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:26,100
like a trend,

4221
02:00:26,100 --> 02:00:27,100
because sometimes you started

4222
02:00:27,100 --> 02:00:28,100
off really good, the beginning,

4223
02:00:28,100 --> 02:00:29,100
and so the numbers are higher,

4224
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:31,100
but you can just see a trend.

4225
02:00:31,100 --> 02:00:32,100
So that's what I've used the

4226
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:33,100
monthly for, is to. To see if

4227
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:35,100
there's trends that are

4228
02:00:35,100 --> 02:00:36,100
happening. Because sometimes,

4229
02:00:36,100 --> 02:00:37,100
you know, the beginning of that

4230
02:00:37,100 --> 02:00:38,100
quarter was better than the end

4231
02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:40,100
of that quarter and you're

4232
02:00:40,100 --> 02:00:42,100
trying to figure out what's,

4233
02:00:42,100 --> 02:00:43,100
you know, which direction

4234
02:00:43,100 --> 02:00:45,100
you're trending. So that was

4235
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:46,100
the usefulness that I found

4236
02:00:46,100 --> 02:00:47,100
with the monthly

4237
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:49,100
for the cash flow. But you see

4238
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:52,100
that it's only three months.

4239
02:00:53,100 --> 02:00:54,100
So you see what you begin and

4240
02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:56,100
what you end the quarter,

4241
02:00:56,100 --> 02:00:57,100
because it's only 12 weeks or

4242
02:00:57,100 --> 02:00:58,100
so at. I mean,

4243
02:00:58,100 --> 02:00:59,100
you see that trend. Yeah,

4244
02:00:59,100 --> 02:01:01,100
that's what I'm saying. That's

4245
02:01:01,100 --> 02:01:03,100
that. That is the usefulness

4246
02:01:03,100 --> 02:01:04,100
to me is to see how we're

4247
02:01:04,100 --> 02:01:05,100
trending and it's every

4248
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:06,100
quarter. So you see that

4249
02:01:06,100 --> 02:01:07,100
at least the last month. It's

4250
02:01:07,100 --> 02:01:08,100
sort of like the budget,

4251
02:01:08,100 --> 02:01:10,100
where you only get

4252
02:01:10,100 --> 02:01:11,100
to see the actuals

4253
02:01:11,100 --> 02:01:13,100
for the one year, but

4254
02:01:13,100 --> 02:01:14,100
at least it's something. So are

4255
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:15,100
you saying you want the monthly

4256
02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:16,100
or you want the quarterly?

4257
02:01:16,100 --> 02:01:17,100
Because what you just said.

4258
02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:18,100
No, no,

4259
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:19,100
it's a quarterly report. It's a

4260
02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:20,100
quarterly report is when he

4261
02:01:20,100 --> 02:01:21,100
brings it. And in that

4262
02:01:21,100 --> 02:01:22,100
quarterly report is just.

4263
02:01:22,100 --> 02:01:23,100
It's. That's. This report

4264
02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:24,100
typically has.

4265
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:26,100
>> What I'm hearing is she

4266
02:01:26,100 --> 02:01:27,100
would like to see. See,

4267
02:01:27,100 --> 02:01:28,100
in addition to this,

4268
02:01:28,100 --> 02:01:29,100
which used to be present

4269
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:32,100
on the previous reports, which

4270
02:01:32,100 --> 02:01:33,100
would be. I guess it's three

4271
02:01:33,100 --> 02:01:35,100
more columns,

4272
02:01:35,100 --> 02:01:36,100
it would be your monthly

4273
02:01:36,100 --> 02:01:39,601
budget, which in most cases in

4274
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:42,100
the expense categories was just

4275
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:43,100
our budget divided by 12

4276
02:01:43,100 --> 02:01:45,100
relative. And so that has its

4277
02:01:45,100 --> 02:01:47,100
own set of potential noise.

4278
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:49,100
And then it would be your

4279
02:01:49,100 --> 02:01:51,100
actuals for that month and then

4280
02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:52,100
your variance.

4281
02:01:52,100 --> 02:01:53,100
>> I never saw an average. I

4282
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:54,100
never saw an average.

4283
02:01:54,100 --> 02:01:56,100
>> I don't think. I didn't say

4284
02:01:56,100 --> 02:01:57,100
average. Yeah, I don't think

4285
02:01:57,100 --> 02:01:59,100
there's. What I'm saying is the

4286
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:01,100
budget on the monthly column

4287
02:02:01,100 --> 02:02:03,100
was the average of the 12

4288
02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:04,100
months of budget put

4289
02:02:04,100 --> 02:02:06,100
in that budget monthly column.

4290
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:08,100
Does that make sense?

4291
02:02:08,100 --> 02:02:10,100
>> You mean

4292
02:02:10,100 --> 02:02:11,100
like the far right where it

4293
02:02:11,100 --> 02:02:12,100
has. Like the far left?

4294
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:13,100
>> Yeah, I don't think there's

4295
02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:14,100
a lot of.

4296
02:02:14,100 --> 02:02:15,100
>> I like having it. I

4297
02:02:15,100 --> 02:02:16,100
like having a quarterly.

4298
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:17,100
>> I like the quarterly. So

4299
02:02:17,100 --> 02:02:18,100
that's. With no monthly,

4300
02:02:18,100 --> 02:02:19,100
without monthly. Okay. Did you

4301
02:02:19,100 --> 02:02:20,100
want the monthly yourself?

4302
02:02:20,100 --> 02:02:22,100
No, no. I mean,

4303
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:23,100
the quarterly is easier for me

4304
02:02:23,100 --> 02:02:25,100
to follow.

4305
02:02:27,100 --> 02:02:28,100
>> So I think that if there.

4306
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:30,100
>> There have been times

4307
02:02:30,100 --> 02:02:32,100
in the past in which that there

4308
02:02:32,100 --> 02:02:33,100
has been some sort

4309
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:34,100
of anomaly or some sort of.

4310
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:35,100
>> Quarter that felt a little

4311
02:02:35,100 --> 02:02:37,100
funky.

4312
02:02:37,100 --> 02:02:39,100
>> And in those cases, when

4313
02:02:39,100 --> 02:02:40,100
there is something that needs

4314
02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:41,100
to be further explained or that

4315
02:02:41,100 --> 02:02:43,100
the math feels confusing.

4316
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:44,100
>> That sounds great.

4317
02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:45,100
>> I would love a thorough

4318
02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:47,100
report and those sort

4319
02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:49,100
of charts. However, I believe

4320
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:50,100
that you said this or extra

4321
02:02:50,100 --> 02:02:52,401
noise that can come.

4322
02:02:53,100 --> 02:02:55,100
>> Because, because especially

4323
02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:58,100
in the expenditure category,

4324
02:02:58,100 --> 02:03:00,401
we, you know, we,

4325
02:03:01,100 --> 02:03:03,100
we take a great deal

4326
02:03:03,100 --> 02:03:06,100
of effort. On the revenue side.

4327
02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:07,100
I always use property tax as

4328
02:03:07,100 --> 02:03:10,100
the best example to try

4329
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:12,100
to meet our cash flow forecast

4330
02:03:12,100 --> 02:03:13,100
in the month that we expect

4331
02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:15,100
to receive the revenue. So we,

4332
02:03:15,100 --> 02:03:16,100
we do a lot

4333
02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:17,100
of looking back and saying,

4334
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:19,100
okay, when did we receive

4335
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:20,100
property tax? Okay, 90%

4336
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:23,100
of property tax comes in in

4337
02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:25,100
January and May. And then we,

4338
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:27,100
you know, there's some little

4339
02:03:27,100 --> 02:03:29,100
amounts that come in in June

4340
02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:30,100
and a little bit that comes in

4341
02:03:30,100 --> 02:03:32,100
in September and October. And

4342
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:33,100
so we, we try to actually

4343
02:03:33,100 --> 02:03:35,100
replicate the cash forecast

4344
02:03:35,100 --> 02:03:37,100
with that. In instances

4345
02:03:37,100 --> 02:03:39,100
like that. In the case

4346
02:03:39,100 --> 02:03:40,100
of our budget expenses, there

4347
02:03:40,100 --> 02:03:43,601
are very few where people go

4348
02:03:46,100 --> 02:03:47,100
through the effort to go

4349
02:03:47,100 --> 02:03:48,100
in and say,

4350
02:03:48,100 --> 02:03:49,100
I think my cash is going

4351
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:50,100
to come out this this month

4352
02:03:50,100 --> 02:03:52,100
versus next month. The best

4353
02:03:52,100 --> 02:03:53,100
example where I could think

4354
02:03:53,100 --> 02:03:54,100
of that we might want to

4355
02:03:54,100 --> 02:03:55,100
consider it and I always use

4356
02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:56,100
this example in the first and

4357
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:58,100
second quarter and even third

4358
02:03:58,100 --> 02:03:59,100
quarter updates

4359
02:03:59,100 --> 02:04:00,100
with council is, you know,

4360
02:04:00,100 --> 02:04:02,100
fire overtime. There's a

4361
02:04:02,100 --> 02:04:03,100
seasonality to it so maybe we

4362
02:04:03,100 --> 02:04:05,100
should front load that. And

4363
02:04:05,100 --> 02:04:06,100
July, August, September,

4364
02:04:06,100 --> 02:04:08,100
October, because that's when

4365
02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:09,100
most of their overtime is being

4366
02:04:09,100 --> 02:04:11,100
spent. But we currently don't

4367
02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:12,100
do that as an example. So

4368
02:04:12,100 --> 02:04:13,100
that's an example of I

4369
02:04:13,100 --> 02:04:15,401
untechnically call it noise

4370
02:04:16,100 --> 02:04:17,100
that you would see in the

4371
02:04:17,100 --> 02:04:19,100
report because we all kind

4372
02:04:19,100 --> 02:04:20,100
of know that's going to happen

4373
02:04:20,100 --> 02:04:22,100
with fire. But it would be,

4374
02:04:22,100 --> 02:04:24,100
it would be present in those

4375
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:25,100
monthly numbers because we just

4376
02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:27,100
take it and divide by 12.

4377
02:04:27,100 --> 02:04:29,100
>> All right. So

4378
02:04:29,100 --> 02:04:31,100
for the revenue side. So I'm

4379
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:32,100
struggling to find. Well

4380
02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:34,100
there's, it's like a bunch

4381
02:04:34,100 --> 02:04:36,100
of different numbers. So this

4382
02:04:36,100 --> 02:04:38,100
says that the total was 105.

4383
02:04:38,100 --> 02:04:39,100
The 10 year budget has it at

4384
02:04:39,100 --> 02:04:41,100
106.

4385
02:04:42,100 --> 02:04:43,100
>> Yeah. So you want a

4386
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:44,100
reconciliation

4387
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:46,100
between the two.

4388
02:04:46,100 --> 02:04:48,100
>> Yeah. What is that from?

4389
02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:49,100
>> Well, I'd have

4390
02:04:49,100 --> 02:04:50,100
to provide it but I don't have

4391
02:04:50,100 --> 02:04:51,100
that handy right now. The exact

4392
02:04:51,100 --> 02:04:52,100
reconciliation

4393
02:04:52,100 --> 02:04:53,100
from what the ten year plan

4394
02:04:53,100 --> 02:04:55,100
says

4395
02:04:55,100 --> 02:04:56,100
to what these reports say.

4396
02:04:56,100 --> 02:04:59,100
>> Well, it's been amended. So

4397
02:05:00,100 --> 02:05:02,100
the Q3,

4398
02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:04,100
the report that we got then was

4399
02:05:04,100 --> 02:05:06,100
from December and as far as a

4400
02:05:06,100 --> 02:05:08,100
10 year plan and it was at

4401
02:05:08,100 --> 02:05:10,401
105, 203 or no, 105, I think

4402
02:05:11,100 --> 02:05:12,100
7. 105.7. But now it's at

4403
02:05:12,100 --> 02:05:14,100
106, 826. So why the,

4404
02:05:14,100 --> 02:05:15,100
what's the increase

4405
02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:16,100
of revenue? I didn't see.

4406
02:05:16,100 --> 02:05:18,100
>> Well, one

4407
02:05:18,100 --> 02:05:19,100
of the increases would be

4408
02:05:19,100 --> 02:05:20,100
in the resolution. The

4409
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:22,100
engineering land development

4410
02:05:23,100 --> 02:05:24,100
has associated revenue so I

4411
02:05:24,100 --> 02:05:26,100
increased the revenue

4412
02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:27,100
for that. I would need to go

4413
02:05:27,100 --> 02:05:29,100
through the whole.

4414
02:05:29,100 --> 02:05:30,100
>> Where is that?

4415
02:05:30,100 --> 02:05:31,100
>> It's in your budget

4416
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:32,100
resolution. You'll see an

4417
02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:33,100
increased revenue for

4418
02:05:33,100 --> 02:05:35,100
engineering land development

4419
02:05:35,100 --> 02:05:37,100
and the budget resolution.

4420
02:05:37,100 --> 02:05:38,100
>> Engineering and design.

4421
02:05:38,100 --> 02:05:41,100
>> Yeah. So they will bill

4422
02:05:42,100 --> 02:05:43,100
developers for those costs they

4423
02:05:43,100 --> 02:05:45,100
incurred and so the amount that

4424
02:05:45,100 --> 02:05:47,100
they're over budget,

4425
02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:48,100
they'll be able

4426
02:05:48,100 --> 02:05:49,100
to bill the developers

4427
02:05:49,100 --> 02:05:50,100
for those costs.

4428
02:05:50,100 --> 02:05:51,100
>> So they're over budget but

4429
02:05:51,100 --> 02:05:52,100
they have.

4430
02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:54,100
>> A revenue that will come in.

4431
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:55,100
>> But it's a bill, it's a

4432
02:05:55,100 --> 02:05:57,100
billable, it will be billed and

4433
02:05:57,100 --> 02:05:58,100
that's where the 99 goes. So

4434
02:05:58,100 --> 02:05:59,100
that's where the revenue piece

4435
02:05:59,100 --> 02:06:00,100
goes up or the transfers are

4436
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:01,100
going up because both have gone

4437
02:06:01,100 --> 02:06:03,100
up on this.

4438
02:06:03,100 --> 02:06:04,100
>> So I can't speak

4439
02:06:04,100 --> 02:06:05,100
to the transfers off top

4440
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:06,100
of my head. I would,

4441
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:07,100
I would need to dig into that a

4442
02:06:07,100 --> 02:06:08,100
little more and I want to give

4443
02:06:08,100 --> 02:06:09,100
you accurate information so so

4444
02:06:09,100 --> 02:06:10,100
let me get back to you

4445
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:12,100
on the transfer piece.

4446
02:06:12,100 --> 02:06:14,100
>> It's not, it's got to be

4447
02:06:14,100 --> 02:06:16,401
in the report though.

4448
02:06:17,100 --> 02:06:18,100
>> The details of it though I

4449
02:06:18,100 --> 02:06:19,100
don't have a reconciliation

4450
02:06:19,100 --> 02:06:20,100
right in front

4451
02:06:20,100 --> 02:06:21,100
of me. I certainly agree with

4452
02:06:21,100 --> 02:06:22,100
the premise that the numbers

4453
02:06:22,100 --> 02:06:23,100
are in the report,

4454
02:06:23,100 --> 02:06:24,100
therefore it must be

4455
02:06:24,100 --> 02:06:25,100
in the report. I don't disagree

4456
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:26,100
with that. What I'm saying is I

4457
02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:27,100
do not have the ability to

4458
02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:28,100
recall every change that's been

4459
02:06:28,100 --> 02:06:30,100
made off the top of my head.

4460
02:06:30,100 --> 02:06:32,100
But I certainly will provide.

4461
02:06:32,100 --> 02:06:33,100
>> You know it would be great

4462
02:06:33,100 --> 02:06:35,100
for that is if you put the

4463
02:06:35,100 --> 02:06:36,100
adjustments into the tenure

4464
02:06:36,100 --> 02:06:38,100
then we would know.

4465
02:06:38,100 --> 02:06:39,100
>> It would just look

4466
02:06:39,100 --> 02:06:40,100
like a lump of adjustments and

4467
02:06:40,100 --> 02:06:41,100
then I'd be having to still off

4468
02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:42,100
a memory recall remember what

4469
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:43,100
all the adjustments were,

4470
02:06:43,100 --> 02:06:44,100
which is challenging

4471
02:06:44,100 --> 02:06:45,100
to do sometimes. So I apologize

4472
02:06:45,100 --> 02:06:46,100
but I'll get you that

4473
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:47,100
information.

4474
02:06:47,100 --> 02:06:48,100
>> But this revenue increase,

4475
02:06:48,100 --> 02:06:49,100
it just, it had said in the

4476
02:06:49,100 --> 02:06:50,100
report that you're not changing

4477
02:06:50,100 --> 02:06:51,100
the revenue increases. But it

4478
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:53,100
does change the revenue.

4479
02:06:53,100 --> 02:06:54,100
>> There, there's one

4480
02:06:54,100 --> 02:06:56,401
Exception is the 437,000 and

4481
02:06:57,100 --> 02:06:58,100
the transfer. Well the loan

4482
02:06:58,100 --> 02:06:59,100
given

4483
02:06:59,100 --> 02:07:01,401
to parking increases the,

4484
02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:04,100
this revenue. We're not

4485
02:07:04,100 --> 02:07:05,100
changing our major revenue

4486
02:07:05,100 --> 02:07:06,100
sources. Right? We're not

4487
02:07:06,100 --> 02:07:07,100
making any changes to our major

4488
02:07:07,100 --> 02:07:08,100
revenue sources.

4489
02:07:08,100 --> 02:07:11,100
>> So the revenue went up

4490
02:07:13,100 --> 02:07:15,100
from it's you said we ended

4491
02:07:15,100 --> 02:07:16,100
at 105 to 105.2, but it's at

4492
02:07:16,100 --> 02:07:18,100
106.8. So that's a lot more

4493
02:07:18,100 --> 02:07:19,100
than the 400,000.

4494
02:07:19,100 --> 02:07:20,100
>> I will certainly provide you

4495
02:07:20,100 --> 02:07:21,100
a reconciliation

4496
02:07:21,100 --> 02:07:22,100
between those two numbers

4497
02:07:22,100 --> 02:07:23,100
to explain it.

4498
02:07:23,100 --> 02:07:25,100
>> Okay.

4499
02:07:28,100 --> 02:07:29,100
>> And then where did this 108

4500
02:07:29,100 --> 02:07:31,100
come from?

4501
02:07:31,100 --> 02:07:32,100
>> When you.

4502
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:33,100
>> So the budget that we passed

4503
02:07:33,100 --> 02:07:34,100
in the 10 year and the last

4504
02:07:34,100 --> 02:07:36,100
amended was at 105. So I don't

4505
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:37,100
understand when was this

4506
02:07:37,100 --> 02:07:38,100
amended?

4507
02:07:38,100 --> 02:07:39,100
By what authority?

4508
02:07:39,100 --> 02:07:40,100
>> Well some of those would be

4509
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:41,100
rolling stock is just one

4510
02:07:41,100 --> 02:07:42,100
example off top of my head

4511
02:07:42,100 --> 02:07:45,100
where we amend the budget for

4512
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:46,100
rolling stock and we don't put

4513
02:07:46,100 --> 02:07:47,100
those adjustments into,

4514
02:07:47,100 --> 02:07:48,100
into the actual 10 year plan

4515
02:07:48,100 --> 02:07:50,100
because it's,

4516
02:07:52,100 --> 02:07:53,100
it has a funding source

4517
02:07:53,100 --> 02:07:55,401
in the large scheme

4518
02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:57,100
of things it's a net wash.

4519
02:07:57,100 --> 02:07:58,100
And.

4520
02:07:58,100 --> 02:07:59,100
>> So we don't, we don't

4521
02:07:59,100 --> 02:08:00,100
authorize that.

4522
02:08:00,100 --> 02:08:01,100
>> It's authorized by council

4523
02:08:01,100 --> 02:08:02,100
policy. I can't remember

4524
02:08:02,100 --> 02:08:03,100
off the top

4525
02:08:03,100 --> 02:08:04,100
of my head. I'm looking at

4526
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:05,100
Barry to see if he knows the

4527
02:08:05,100 --> 02:08:06,100
rolling stock council policy.

4528
02:08:06,100 --> 02:08:07,100
So you have rolling stock,

4529
02:08:07,100 --> 02:08:09,401
you have equipment replacement,

4530
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:11,100
you have if somebody donates

4531
02:08:11,100 --> 02:08:13,100
to us to say somebody passes

4532
02:08:13,100 --> 02:08:14,100
away and they want

4533
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:15,100
to build a bench,

4534
02:08:15,100 --> 02:08:16,100
sometimes they'll donate money

4535
02:08:16,100 --> 02:08:17,100
to us, but.

4536
02:08:17,100 --> 02:08:18,100
>> We don't have to approve

4537
02:08:18,100 --> 02:08:19,100
that or receive it as a

4538
02:08:19,100 --> 02:08:20,100
council. You Just put that

4539
02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:21,100
into revenue

4540
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:22,100
without administrative knowing

4541
02:08:22,100 --> 02:08:23,100
about it. It's administrative.

4542
02:08:23,100 --> 02:08:24,100
>> It's council policy 416.

4543
02:08:24,100 --> 02:08:27,100
And so those are all council

4544
02:08:27,100 --> 02:08:28,100
policies. Clearly the council

4545
02:08:28,100 --> 02:08:30,100
body can change those

4546
02:08:30,100 --> 02:08:31,100
at any time you wish.

4547
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:32,100
>> Another, another adjustment

4548
02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:34,100
to revenues that happens is we

4549
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:35,100
do re budgeting for grants that

4550
02:08:35,100 --> 02:08:38,100
are reimbursement grants. So if

4551
02:08:38,100 --> 02:08:42,100
we know next year use SAFER as

4552
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:44,100
an example,

4553
02:08:44,100 --> 02:08:45,100
although we built that

4554
02:08:45,100 --> 02:08:47,100
into our budget,

4555
02:08:48,100 --> 02:08:49,100
if we knew we had a carryover

4556
02:08:49,100 --> 02:08:51,100
for some SAFER amount,

4557
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:52,100
SAFER grant amount, we would

4558
02:08:52,100 --> 02:08:54,100
actually rebudget the revenues

4559
02:08:54,100 --> 02:08:55,100
associated

4560
02:08:55,100 --> 02:08:57,100
to that because we know, we

4561
02:08:57,100 --> 02:08:58,100
expect, given the carryover

4562
02:08:58,100 --> 02:09:00,100
of safer, that we would

4563
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:01,100
actually see increased revenues

4564
02:09:01,100 --> 02:09:02,100
next year as well. So that

4565
02:09:02,100 --> 02:09:03,100
could explain some

4566
02:09:03,100 --> 02:09:04,100
of the difference. Again, I

4567
02:09:04,100 --> 02:09:06,100
would much prefer to provide

4568
02:09:06,100 --> 02:09:07,100
you a full reconciliation than

4569
02:09:07,100 --> 02:09:08,100
to sit here and spitball every

4570
02:09:08,100 --> 02:09:10,100
potential scenario

4571
02:09:10,100 --> 02:09:11,100
of what could be different

4572
02:09:11,100 --> 02:09:13,100
between the report and the

4573
02:09:13,100 --> 02:09:15,100
Ten Year Plan, which I think is

4574
02:09:15,100 --> 02:09:17,100
your question.

4575
02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:18,100
>> Well, I mean that's what

4576
02:09:18,100 --> 02:09:19,100
we're approving is if they

4577
02:09:19,100 --> 02:09:20,100
match up and if.

4578
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:21,100
>> The effort, I don't think

4579
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:23,401
council's approving that the

4580
02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:26,100
revenues match the report. I

4581
02:09:26,100 --> 02:09:27,100
think council's approving the

4582
02:09:27,100 --> 02:09:28,100
budget resolution. And I just,

4583
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:30,100
you know, historically

4584
02:09:31,100 --> 02:09:33,100
speaking,

4585
02:09:33,100 --> 02:09:35,100
we do not make a reconciliation

4586
02:09:35,100 --> 02:09:37,100
from these reports to the ten

4587
02:09:37,100 --> 02:09:39,100
Year Plan. That certainly can

4588
02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:41,100
be done. It's just a lot of

4589
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:43,100
effort because there's so many

4590
02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:45,100
moving pieces administratively

4591
02:09:45,100 --> 02:09:47,100
that are getting appropriated

4592
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:48,100
all the time. So if council

4593
02:09:48,100 --> 02:09:50,100
cert wants that information, I

4594
02:09:50,100 --> 02:09:51,100
could certainly provide that

4595
02:09:51,100 --> 02:09:53,100
information. It's just more

4596
02:09:53,100 --> 02:09:54,100
work. My staff's pretty

4597
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:56,100
strapped how it is and so.

4598
02:09:56,100 --> 02:09:57,100
>> So you're saying we

4599
02:09:57,100 --> 02:09:58,100
shouldn't expect to have the

4600
02:09:58,100 --> 02:10:00,100
numbers be reconciled to the

4601
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:01,100
10 year report as things are

4602
02:10:01,100 --> 02:10:03,100
amended and decided here.

4603
02:10:03,100 --> 02:10:04,100
>> Who's amendments,

4604
02:10:04,100 --> 02:10:05,100
Amendments that are finance

4605
02:10:05,100 --> 02:10:07,100
amendments that. How would we

4606
02:10:07,100 --> 02:10:08,100
know that amendments that are

4607
02:10:08,100 --> 02:10:09,100
approved

4608
02:10:09,100 --> 02:10:11,100
by this board always go

4609
02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:12,100
into the amended 10 year plan?

4610
02:10:12,100 --> 02:10:13,100
I'm telling you,

4611
02:10:13,100 --> 02:10:14,100
all the administrative

4612
02:10:14,100 --> 02:10:15,100
amendments, I do not go in and

4613
02:10:15,100 --> 02:10:17,100
go every single administrator.

4614
02:10:17,100 --> 02:10:18,100
It would be a ton,

4615
02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:19,100
I mean a ton of work to explain

4616
02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:21,100
every single administrative

4617
02:10:21,100 --> 02:10:22,100
amendment and then put it

4618
02:10:22,100 --> 02:10:23,100
into the ten Year Plan. I would

4619
02:10:23,100 --> 02:10:24,100
amend it if it was something.

4620
02:10:24,100 --> 02:10:26,100
And this,

4621
02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:28,100
we could never do this. If it

4622
02:10:28,100 --> 02:10:29,100
was something that was net

4623
02:10:29,100 --> 02:10:30,100
going to be a draw

4624
02:10:30,100 --> 02:10:31,100
on the general fund,

4625
02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:32,100
I would always amend it.

4626
02:10:32,100 --> 02:10:33,100
Right. But most

4627
02:10:33,100 --> 02:10:34,100
of these things are net neutral

4628
02:10:34,100 --> 02:10:35,100
to the general fund. And so

4629
02:10:35,100 --> 02:10:36,100
think about the ten Year Plan

4630
02:10:36,100 --> 02:10:39,100
as a planning tool. And so it's

4631
02:10:39,100 --> 02:10:40,100
designed

4632
02:10:40,100 --> 02:10:41,100
to help us make decisions

4633
02:10:41,100 --> 02:10:43,100
in the future. It will always

4634
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:44,100
reconcile when we adopt the

4635
02:10:44,100 --> 02:10:45,100
budget

4636
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:47,401
to the approved expenditures.

4637
02:10:48,100 --> 02:10:50,100
After that they start

4638
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:53,100
to diverge because of all these

4639
02:10:53,100 --> 02:10:54,100
administrative items. And

4640
02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:56,100
Things of that nature.

4641
02:10:56,100 --> 02:10:58,100
>> So administrative. Oh, yeah,

4642
02:10:58,100 --> 02:10:59,100
yeah.

4643
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:00,100
>> Did she meet with you

4644
02:11:00,100 --> 02:11:01,100
before this meeting to go

4645
02:11:01,100 --> 02:11:02,100
over all these questions?

4646
02:11:02,100 --> 02:11:03,100
Sir? Did she meet with you

4647
02:11:03,100 --> 02:11:04,100
over all these questions

4648
02:11:04,100 --> 02:11:05,100
before the meeting or no? No,

4649
02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:06,100
sir.

4650
02:11:06,100 --> 02:11:07,100
>> It's in the report and I

4651
02:11:07,100 --> 02:11:08,100
want the public to be able

4652
02:11:08,100 --> 02:11:09,100
to hear.

4653
02:11:09,100 --> 02:11:10,100
>> Yeah, I feel like we're

4654
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:11,100
losing the audience.

4655
02:11:11,100 --> 02:11:12,100
But you've got

4656
02:11:12,100 --> 02:11:13,100
about a zillion questions

4657
02:11:13,100 --> 02:11:14,100
out here and like,

4658
02:11:14,100 --> 02:11:15,100
it looks unprepared. It looks

4659
02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:16,100
like you could go to him

4660
02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:17,100
before this meeting,

4661
02:11:17,100 --> 02:11:18,100
answer all these questions in

4662
02:11:18,100 --> 02:11:20,100
the whole world and come back

4663
02:11:20,100 --> 02:11:21,100
and we can report these and

4664
02:11:21,100 --> 02:11:22,100
clarifying.

4665
02:11:22,100 --> 02:11:23,100
But we're just talking

4666
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:24,100
in circles here. You've got

4667
02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:25,100
about 100 questions and we

4668
02:11:25,100 --> 02:11:27,100
could be here all night.

4669
02:11:27,100 --> 02:11:28,100
>> But did you have a question?

4670
02:11:28,100 --> 02:11:29,100
>> You have the access to go

4671
02:11:29,100 --> 02:11:30,100
to him

4672
02:11:30,100 --> 02:11:31,100
before this meeting?

4673
02:11:31,100 --> 02:11:32,100
>> That doesn't help the

4674
02:11:32,100 --> 02:11:33,100
public.

4675
02:11:33,100 --> 02:11:34,100
>> It does help the public.

4676
02:11:34,100 --> 02:11:35,100
When you come back

4677
02:11:35,100 --> 02:11:36,100
with this information, explain

4678
02:11:36,100 --> 02:11:37,100
things, but you just talk

4679
02:11:37,100 --> 02:11:38,100
in circles, question

4680
02:11:38,100 --> 02:11:39,100
over question over question.

4681
02:11:39,100 --> 02:11:40,100
But you're not prepared. My

4682
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:41,100
God, you're not going to him

4683
02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:42,100
before this meeting and doing

4684
02:11:42,100 --> 02:11:44,100
your due diligence. We have

4685
02:11:44,100 --> 02:11:45,100
access to directors. We can go

4686
02:11:45,100 --> 02:11:47,100
to directors anytime. That is

4687
02:11:47,100 --> 02:11:48,100
your job as a person

4688
02:11:48,100 --> 02:11:50,100
to go.

4689
02:11:50,100 --> 02:11:51,100
>> It's to actually let the

4690
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:52,100
public know what's happening

4691
02:11:52,100 --> 02:11:53,100
with their finances.

4692
02:11:53,100 --> 02:11:54,100
>> You look very unprepared

4693
02:11:54,100 --> 02:11:55,100
being here. That's all I got

4694
02:11:55,100 --> 02:11:56,100
to say. You're not going

4695
02:11:56,100 --> 02:11:57,100
to think that asking.

4696
02:11:57,100 --> 02:11:58,100
>> Questions means you're

4697
02:11:58,100 --> 02:11:59,100
unprepared. You have no idea

4698
02:11:59,100 --> 02:12:00,100
the job.

4699
02:12:00,100 --> 02:12:01,100
>> You need to go meet

4700
02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:02,100
with them

4701
02:12:02,100 --> 02:12:03,100
before these meetings,

4702
02:12:03,100 --> 02:12:04,100
before it helps so much

4703
02:12:04,100 --> 02:12:05,100
for you. Because you look very

4704
02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:06,100
confused up here and you're

4705
02:12:06,100 --> 02:12:07,100
talking in circles. Just asking

4706
02:12:07,100 --> 02:12:08,100
zillion.

4707
02:12:08,100 --> 02:12:09,100
>> You would hope so. But

4708
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:10,100
that's not actually what.

4709
02:12:10,100 --> 02:12:11,100
>> Meet

4710
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:12,100
with your directors before.

4711
02:12:12,100 --> 02:12:13,100
>> That's not actually what it

4712
02:12:13,100 --> 02:12:14,100
is in the future.

4713
02:12:14,100 --> 02:12:15,100
>> Just meet

4714
02:12:15,100 --> 02:12:16,100
with your directors,

4715
02:12:16,100 --> 02:12:18,100
ask all these questions.

4716
02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:20,100
>> Are you all done? I hope

4717
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:22,100
you're all done. Okay, that's

4718
02:12:22,100 --> 02:12:24,100
great. So getting back

4719
02:12:24,100 --> 02:12:25,100
to this. In this report,

4720
02:12:25,100 --> 02:12:26,100
as far as our cash reserves,

4721
02:12:26,100 --> 02:12:28,100
you mentioned that it is going

4722
02:12:28,100 --> 02:12:30,100
to be offset

4723
02:12:30,100 --> 02:12:32,100
by the gas tax funds. Could you

4724
02:12:32,100 --> 02:12:33,100
tell us what amount it would be

4725
02:12:33,100 --> 02:12:34,100
offset by for gas tax?

4726
02:12:34,100 --> 02:12:36,100
>> Again, we're not done

4727
02:12:36,100 --> 02:12:37,100
closing the year, so I can't

4728
02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:38,100
give you the range.

4729
02:12:38,100 --> 02:12:39,100
>> 2 million, 1 million.

4730
02:12:39,100 --> 02:12:42,100
>> So we. We trans. We

4731
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:44,100
estimated the transfer to be

4732
02:12:44,100 --> 02:12:45,100
about 8 million when we

4733
02:12:45,100 --> 02:12:46,100
produced this report. So I'm

4734
02:12:46,100 --> 02:12:48,100
unsure your exact question or

4735
02:12:48,100 --> 02:12:50,401
where you're leading your

4736
02:12:51,100 --> 02:12:52,100
question.

4737
02:12:52,100 --> 02:12:53,100
>> It says in here that the gas

4738
02:12:53,100 --> 02:12:54,100
tax funds to offset eligible

4739
02:12:54,100 --> 02:12:56,100
costs incurred and paid

4740
02:12:56,100 --> 02:12:57,100
from the general fund. And I

4741
02:12:57,100 --> 02:12:59,100
just wanted to know what that

4742
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:00,100
amount would be.

4743
02:13:00,100 --> 02:13:01,100
>> It was about $8 million.

4744
02:13:01,100 --> 02:13:02,100
>> About 8. Because

4745
02:13:02,100 --> 02:13:03,100
in our.

4746
02:13:03,100 --> 02:13:04,100
>> In the budget, I think it

4747
02:13:04,100 --> 02:13:05,100
says there. Somewhere

4748
02:13:05,100 --> 02:13:06,100
near there,

4749
02:13:06,100 --> 02:13:07,100
if not right there is. Says the

4750
02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:08,100
$8 million.

4751
02:13:08,100 --> 02:13:09,100
>> Yeah. In the budget report,

4752
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:10,100
it said that it was. The actual

4753
02:13:10,100 --> 02:13:11,100
amount was 9 million. So you're

4754
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:12,100
saying in addition to that 9

4755
02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:13,100
million?

4756
02:13:13,100 --> 02:13:14,100
>> No, no, no addition. So. So

4757
02:13:14,100 --> 02:13:15,100
the actual expenditure is

4758
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:17,100
reduced by certain items that

4759
02:13:17,100 --> 02:13:19,100
the general fund actually has

4760
02:13:19,100 --> 02:13:20,100
to pay for legally. We get some

4761
02:13:20,100 --> 02:13:22,100
transfers from solid waste,

4762
02:13:22,100 --> 02:13:24,401
wastewater and water due

4763
02:13:25,100 --> 02:13:27,100
to the damages they do

4764
02:13:27,100 --> 02:13:28,100
to the roads. Those monies are

4765
02:13:28,100 --> 02:13:29,100
then kind of pay

4766
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:31,100
for the first, let's call it

4767
02:13:31,100 --> 02:13:32,100
the general fund required

4768
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:33,100
maintenance. So there's about a

4769
02:13:33,100 --> 02:13:35,100
million dollars roughly that is

4770
02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:36,100
paid for out

4771
02:13:36,100 --> 02:13:37,100
of those funds. I think

4772
02:13:37,100 --> 02:13:39,100
Michael's actually going

4773
02:13:39,100 --> 02:13:40,100
to talk about it a little bit

4774
02:13:40,100 --> 02:13:41,100
in his presentation. But. So

4775
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:43,100
that's why that number is

4776
02:13:43,100 --> 02:13:44,100
actually lower than the actual

4777
02:13:44,100 --> 02:13:46,100
expenses is because

4778
02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:48,100
of some items that are kind

4779
02:13:48,100 --> 02:13:50,100
of paid for

4780
02:13:50,100 --> 02:13:51,100
with general fund monies,

4781
02:13:51,100 --> 02:13:52,100
which are the transfers

4782
02:13:52,100 --> 02:13:53,100
from the utilities

4783
02:13:53,100 --> 02:13:54,100
for the damages they do

4784
02:13:54,100 --> 02:13:56,100
to our streets.

4785
02:13:56,100 --> 02:13:58,100
>> So on the actual revenue

4786
02:13:58,100 --> 02:13:59,100
document that you gave to us,

4787
02:13:59,100 --> 02:14:00,100
one of the new reports,

4788
02:14:00,100 --> 02:14:02,100
it says that the budget,

4789
02:14:02,100 --> 02:14:03,100
the amended budget, was 11.6

4790
02:14:03,100 --> 02:14:05,100
million for the fund transfers

4791
02:14:05,100 --> 02:14:07,100
and then that.

4792
02:14:07,100 --> 02:14:09,100
But we expended nine. That was

4793
02:14:09,100 --> 02:14:10,100
the actual.

4794
02:14:10,100 --> 02:14:11,100
>> The largest difference there

4795
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:12,100
is the forecasted streets

4796
02:14:12,100 --> 02:14:14,100
transfer.

4797
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:15,100
>> Oh, yeah, yeah. No, my

4798
02:14:15,100 --> 02:14:16,100
question was, is that 9 million

4799
02:14:16,100 --> 02:14:17,100
already been accounted for? So

4800
02:14:17,100 --> 02:14:18,100
it's another 8 million.

4801
02:14:18,100 --> 02:14:20,100
>> No, it's already been

4802
02:14:20,100 --> 02:14:21,100
accounted for. We accounted

4803
02:14:21,100 --> 02:14:22,100
for the eight that we expect

4804
02:14:22,100 --> 02:14:24,100
to receive from gas tax. That

4805
02:14:24,100 --> 02:14:25,100
number could change slightly as

4806
02:14:25,100 --> 02:14:27,401
we close it out

4807
02:14:31,100 --> 02:14:33,100
over the next few weeks.

4808
02:14:33,100 --> 02:14:34,100
But we have accounted for what

4809
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:35,100
we believe is our best estimate

4810
02:14:35,100 --> 02:14:36,100
at this time.

4811
02:14:36,100 --> 02:14:37,100
>> So for the reports that have

4812
02:14:37,100 --> 02:14:38,100
the.

4813
02:14:38,100 --> 02:14:39,100
>> It.

4814
02:14:39,100 --> 02:14:40,100
>> So the revenue was 9 million

4815
02:14:40,100 --> 02:14:41,100
that we actually got

4816
02:14:41,100 --> 02:14:42,100
for gas tax. And then the

4817
02:14:42,100 --> 02:14:43,100
expenditure is. Looks

4818
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:44,100
like it's roughly 9.4.

4819
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:46,100
>> I would have to do the math.

4820
02:14:46,100 --> 02:14:48,100
I don't have that math handy. I

4821
02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:49,100
certainly could do it real

4822
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:50,100
quick if you want

4823
02:14:50,100 --> 02:14:51,100
to give me a second.

4824
02:14:51,100 --> 02:14:52,100
>> No, no,

4825
02:14:52,100 --> 02:14:53,100
I'm just saying this is. This

4826
02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:54,100
is what the actual. So that's

4827
02:14:54,100 --> 02:14:55,100
my question. So if the money.

4828
02:14:55,100 --> 02:14:56,100
The money.

4829
02:14:56,100 --> 02:14:57,100
>> So we're effectively streets

4830
02:14:57,100 --> 02:14:58,100
between the transfers that the

4831
02:14:58,100 --> 02:14:59,100
general fund makes

4832
02:14:59,100 --> 02:15:01,100
from solid waste, wastewater

4833
02:15:01,100 --> 02:15:03,100
and water that get transferred

4834
02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:04,100
in the general fund. And then

4835
02:15:04,100 --> 02:15:05,100
we give to streets

4836
02:15:05,100 --> 02:15:06,100
for the damages to the streets

4837
02:15:06,100 --> 02:15:07,100
and then the gas tax transfers,

4838
02:15:07,100 --> 02:15:09,401
streets is made completely

4839
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:12,100
whole

4840
02:15:12,100 --> 02:15:14,100
between those two sources.

4841
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:15,100
>> And so for our general fund

4842
02:15:15,100 --> 02:15:16,100
cash balance, we're

4843
02:15:16,100 --> 02:15:17,100
anticipating that that gas tax

4844
02:15:17,100 --> 02:15:18,100
fund is going

4845
02:15:18,100 --> 02:15:19,100
to be reimbursed an amount of

4846
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:22,100
about 8 to 9 million. Now or

4847
02:15:22,100 --> 02:15:25,100
because it says up here it says

4848
02:15:25,100 --> 02:15:26,100
that this 10 million, it has an

4849
02:15:26,100 --> 02:15:28,100
estimated cash transfer. Is it

4850
02:15:28,100 --> 02:15:29,100
including that transfer or it's

4851
02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:30,100
going to be added?

4852
02:15:30,100 --> 02:15:32,100
>> I'm a little confused

4853
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:33,100
by your question. I continue

4854
02:15:33,100 --> 02:15:34,100
to want to read it

4855
02:15:34,100 --> 02:15:35,100
to you.

4856
02:15:35,100 --> 02:15:36,100
>> The general fund cash

4857
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:37,100
balance was 10.2. This was

4858
02:15:37,100 --> 02:15:38,100
adjusted

4859
02:15:38,100 --> 02:15:39,100
for estimated cash transfers

4860
02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:40,100
from the gas tax funds to

4861
02:15:40,100 --> 02:15:41,100
offset eligible costs incurred.

4862
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:42,100
So that's the 10 million

4863
02:15:42,100 --> 02:15:43,100
includes the gas tax. And I was

4864
02:15:43,100 --> 02:15:44,100
just asking what's that amount

4865
02:15:44,100 --> 02:15:47,601
of that gas tax? Is it 8

4866
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:51,100
million, 9 million?

4867
02:15:51,100 --> 02:15:52,100
>> I think I've answered the

4868
02:15:52,100 --> 02:15:53,100
question. We are transferring

4869
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:54,100
about $8 million includes the

4870
02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:56,100
8 million. Yes.

4871
02:15:56,100 --> 02:15:58,401
>> So it's already included.

4872
02:16:08,100 --> 02:16:09,100
>> Let me look at the report.

4873
02:16:09,100 --> 02:16:10,100
What page are you on?

4874
02:16:10,100 --> 02:16:11,100
>> 2, paragraph 1 under

4875
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:12,100
General Fund reserves. The

4876
02:16:12,100 --> 02:16:13,100
first sentence.

4877
02:16:13,100 --> 02:16:14,100
>> Yeah, so. So that the cash

4878
02:16:14,100 --> 02:16:15,100
balance in the general fund on

4879
02:16:15,100 --> 02:16:16,100
the cash report that was

4880
02:16:16,100 --> 02:16:17,100
included includes the estimated

4881
02:16:17,100 --> 02:16:19,100
at this time estimated. We will

4882
02:16:19,100 --> 02:16:20,100
know by the end of the month.

4883
02:16:20,100 --> 02:16:21,100
Yeah, about approximately $8

4884
02:16:21,100 --> 02:16:23,100
million transferred

4885
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:24,100
from gas tax.

4886
02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:26,100
>> Okay. And then what is the

4887
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:28,100
estimate? It says also will be

4888
02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:29,100
adjusted based

4889
02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:31,100
on these other items. So the

4890
02:16:31,100 --> 02:16:32,100
American rescue plan is.

4891
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:33,100
>> So, so what I'm outlining

4892
02:16:33,100 --> 02:16:35,100
there, and this is not a

4893
02:16:35,100 --> 02:16:37,100
perfect outline because I don't

4894
02:16:37,100 --> 02:16:39,100
have all these numbers

4895
02:16:39,100 --> 02:16:40,100
finalized yet. What I'm

4896
02:16:40,100 --> 02:16:42,100
attempting to outline is

4897
02:16:42,100 --> 02:16:44,100
basically explaining the

4898
02:16:44,100 --> 02:16:46,100
council,

4899
02:16:46,100 --> 02:16:47,100
there will be adjustments

4900
02:16:47,100 --> 02:16:48,100
to that 10.2 million, some

4901
02:16:48,100 --> 02:16:49,100
down, some up.

4902
02:16:49,100 --> 02:16:50,100
>> Okay.

4903
02:16:50,100 --> 02:16:51,100
>> And I believe with all those

4904
02:16:51,100 --> 02:16:52,100
adjustments I think I end up

4905
02:16:52,100 --> 02:16:53,100
surmising or arriving

4906
02:16:53,100 --> 02:16:54,100
at that. Our $9 million

4907
02:16:54,100 --> 02:16:55,100
projection is good at this

4908
02:16:55,100 --> 02:16:57,100
time. I don't see any reason

4909
02:16:57,100 --> 02:16:59,100
for that to change

4910
02:16:59,100 --> 02:17:00,100
with the new ten year plan. So

4911
02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:02,100
why I explained that is because

4912
02:17:02,100 --> 02:17:03,100
there is this crossover

4913
02:17:03,100 --> 02:17:04,100
from the old 10 year plan

4914
02:17:04,100 --> 02:17:05,100
ending cash which would say

4915
02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:07,100
6.8 million. And I think

4916
02:17:07,100 --> 02:17:09,100
there's a logical question

4917
02:17:09,100 --> 02:17:10,100
to say, well, why does the new

4918
02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:12,100
10 year plan say 9 million?

4919
02:17:12,100 --> 02:17:13,100
And that was my attempt to try

4920
02:17:13,100 --> 02:17:14,100
to explain that crosswalk

4921
02:17:14,100 --> 02:17:15,100
from three different sources

4922
02:17:15,100 --> 02:17:16,100
of information. Actually the

4923
02:17:16,100 --> 02:17:17,100
actual cash that's sitting

4924
02:17:17,100 --> 02:17:19,100
in our general fund, the old

4925
02:17:19,100 --> 02:17:21,100
ten year plan and the new ten

4926
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:23,100
year plan. So I was attempting

4927
02:17:23,100 --> 02:17:25,100
again, it's super complicated.

4928
02:17:25,100 --> 02:17:26,100
I was attempting to kind

4929
02:17:26,100 --> 02:17:28,100
of explain

4930
02:17:28,100 --> 02:17:29,100
to council it's not going

4931
02:17:29,100 --> 02:17:30,100
to be 10.3 million,

4932
02:17:30,100 --> 02:17:32,100
it's not going to be 6.8

4933
02:17:32,100 --> 02:17:33,100
million. I still believe it's

4934
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:34,100
going

4935
02:17:34,100 --> 02:17:35,100
to arrive somewhere right

4936
02:17:35,100 --> 02:17:37,100
around 9 million.

4937
02:17:38,100 --> 02:17:40,100
>> Yeah, I have a real, I can't

4938
02:17:40,100 --> 02:17:41,100
find any accounting practices

4939
02:17:41,100 --> 02:17:42,100
that end cash is not the

4940
02:17:42,100 --> 02:17:44,100
beginning cash. And if you do

4941
02:17:44,100 --> 02:17:45,100
are going to change it,

4942
02:17:45,100 --> 02:17:46,100
you have

4943
02:17:46,100 --> 02:17:47,100
to get very specific.

4944
02:17:47,100 --> 02:17:48,100
>> To be abundantly clear,

4945
02:17:48,100 --> 02:17:50,100
we do use ending Cash audited.

4946
02:17:50,100 --> 02:17:52,100
Once our audit is complete,

4947
02:17:52,100 --> 02:17:53,100
we come back to this board in

4948
02:17:53,100 --> 02:17:55,100
February and we say here is our

4949
02:17:55,100 --> 02:17:56,100
adjusted cash number based

4950
02:17:56,100 --> 02:17:58,100
on the actuals adjusted

4951
02:17:58,100 --> 02:17:59,100
for these items.

4952
02:17:59,100 --> 02:18:02,100
>> Yeah, I'm aware of the

4953
02:18:02,100 --> 02:18:03,100
practice that you're doing.

4954
02:18:03,100 --> 02:18:04,100
It's just not a practice I can

4955
02:18:04,100 --> 02:18:05,100
find anywhere else,

4956
02:18:05,100 --> 02:18:06,100
nor does it align with any of

4957
02:18:06,100 --> 02:18:07,100
the GASB stuff that I have

4958
02:18:07,100 --> 02:18:09,100
found. And, and they said when

4959
02:18:09,100 --> 02:18:10,100
and if that were to happen

4960
02:18:10,100 --> 02:18:11,100
in all

4961
02:18:11,100 --> 02:18:13,100
of the literature that I read

4962
02:18:13,100 --> 02:18:15,100
in the, and calling the League

4963
02:18:15,100 --> 02:18:16,100
of Cities and asking, they said

4964
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:18,100
if they can itemize exactly

4965
02:18:18,100 --> 02:18:20,100
what that is. So I'm looking

4966
02:18:20,100 --> 02:18:21,100
for this itemization of why you

4967
02:18:21,100 --> 02:18:22,100
think that the cash is going

4968
02:18:22,100 --> 02:18:23,100
to change in nine months

4969
02:18:23,100 --> 02:18:24,100
from when it ends. Not the

4970
02:18:24,100 --> 02:18:26,100
at Q4 which is the end of,

4971
02:18:26,100 --> 02:18:29,100
of that fiscal year, which is

4972
02:18:29,100 --> 02:18:31,100
September, three months after.

4973
02:18:31,100 --> 02:18:33,100
>> I guess I'm confused.

4974
02:18:33,100 --> 02:18:35,100
>> As far as the beginning

4975
02:18:35,100 --> 02:18:37,100
cash, most of them said that

4976
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:38,100
would change end cash. So if

4977
02:18:38,100 --> 02:18:40,100
something was adjusted,

4978
02:18:40,100 --> 02:18:41,100
the end cash would change in

4979
02:18:41,100 --> 02:18:42,100
February

4980
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:43,100
but not the beginning cash. So

4981
02:18:43,100 --> 02:18:44,100
that's what I'm trying

4982
02:18:44,100 --> 02:18:45,100
to figure out.

4983
02:18:45,100 --> 02:18:46,100
>> Okay, so. So let's be

4984
02:18:46,100 --> 02:18:47,100
abundantly clear. Yeah, you

4985
02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:48,100
just use two terms and terms

4986
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:49,100
are important. You said

4987
02:18:49,100 --> 02:18:50,100
beginning and ending cash

4988
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:51,100
like they're different. So let

4989
02:18:51,100 --> 02:18:53,100
me be clear. The ending cash

4990
02:18:53,100 --> 02:18:54,100
of June 30, 2025 is the

4991
02:18:54,100 --> 02:18:56,100
beginning cash 7125

4992
02:18:57,100 --> 02:18:59,100
of our new 10 year plan.

4993
02:18:59,100 --> 02:19:01,100
>> Correct.

4994
02:19:01,100 --> 02:19:02,100
>> At this time it is a

4995
02:19:02,100 --> 02:19:03,100
forecasted number. We

4996
02:19:03,100 --> 02:19:04,100
forecasted it to be 9 million.

4997
02:19:04,100 --> 02:19:07,100
We are completing our audit.

4998
02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:10,100
We have 10.2, 10.3 million

4999
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:12,100
in there right now. We will

5000
02:19:12,100 --> 02:19:14,100
take that actual number

5001
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:15,100
after the completion

5002
02:19:15,100 --> 02:19:16,100
of the audit. We will adjust it

5003
02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:17,100
for encumbrances and things

5004
02:19:17,100 --> 02:19:18,100
that we have carried over and

5005
02:19:18,100 --> 02:19:21,100
we will then bring a number

5006
02:19:21,100 --> 02:19:24,100
to council. At this time,

5007
02:19:24,100 --> 02:19:26,100
I believe it'll be close to 9

5008
02:19:26,100 --> 02:19:27,100
million. I cannot promise you

5009
02:19:27,100 --> 02:19:29,100
that because we're still

5010
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:30,100
forecasting. I don't have the

5011
02:19:30,100 --> 02:19:32,100
actual audited cash number.

5012
02:19:32,100 --> 02:19:33,100
To your point, I agree with you

5013
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:34,100
is very important that we use

5014
02:19:34,100 --> 02:19:35,100
an audited cash number that

5015
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:36,100
then set our beginning cash

5016
02:19:36,100 --> 02:19:38,401
number for this 10 year,

5017
02:19:39,100 --> 02:19:41,401
the new 10 year plan.

5018
02:19:42,100 --> 02:19:43,100
>> Yeah, we don't agree because

5019
02:19:43,100 --> 02:19:44,100
I'm not saying that. So I'm

5020
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:47,601
saying when I said the word

5021
02:19:48,100 --> 02:19:49,100
ending cash,

5022
02:19:49,100 --> 02:19:50,100
what I meant was the end

5023
02:19:50,100 --> 02:19:51,100
of the 26. So if, if in

5024
02:19:51,100 --> 02:19:52,100
February of 2026 you want

5025
02:19:52,100 --> 02:19:54,100
to make an adjustment

5026
02:19:54,100 --> 02:19:57,100
to cash, you admit if there

5027
02:19:57,100 --> 02:19:58,100
more money came

5028
02:19:58,100 --> 02:20:00,100
in or something,

5029
02:20:00,100 --> 02:20:01,100
you could make that adjustment

5030
02:20:01,100 --> 02:20:02,100
to the end of that year. But,

5031
02:20:02,100 --> 02:20:03,100
but that, that should,

5032
02:20:03,100 --> 02:20:04,100
that ship has been sailed. So

5033
02:20:04,100 --> 02:20:05,100
cash is cash. The idea that you

5034
02:20:05,100 --> 02:20:06,100
have audited cash is also I

5035
02:20:06,100 --> 02:20:07,100
can't really find that

5036
02:20:07,100 --> 02:20:08,100
in any standard as well. So I

5037
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:10,100
don't know why our ending cash

5038
02:20:10,100 --> 02:20:11,000
for this last year Q4.

5039
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:14,600
>> So you just want to use

5040
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:16,100
10.3 million? Is that your

5041
02:20:16,100 --> 02:20:17,100
suggestion? I guess I'm

5042
02:20:17,100 --> 02:20:18,100
confused.

5043
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:19,100
>> No, because 10.2, the 10.2

5044
02:20:19,100 --> 02:20:21,100
figure that you have would have

5045
02:20:21,100 --> 02:20:22,100
encumbrances would have other

5046
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:23,100
things that are involved which

5047
02:20:23,100 --> 02:20:24,100
is why the end cash balance is

5048
02:20:24,100 --> 02:20:26,100
actually 6.8.

5049
02:20:26,100 --> 02:20:27,100
>> So what would make no 6.8 is

5050
02:20:27,100 --> 02:20:28,100
in the forecasting tool which

5051
02:20:28,100 --> 02:20:29,100
does not account

5052
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:30,100
for every piece of savings or

5053
02:20:30,100 --> 02:20:31,100
every revenue performance.

5054
02:20:31,100 --> 02:20:32,100
Correct? Correct. The ten year

5055
02:20:32,100 --> 02:20:34,100
plan is a foreclosure.

5056
02:20:34,100 --> 02:20:35,100
>> So that's where we're

5057
02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:36,100
starting. That's where we start

5058
02:20:36,100 --> 02:20:37,100
because that's how it's always

5059
02:20:37,100 --> 02:20:39,100
going to be. It's always been.

5060
02:20:39,100 --> 02:20:40,100
That's how it was previous

5061
02:20:40,100 --> 02:20:41,100
before your tenure is that

5062
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:43,100
NCASH was beginning cash.

5063
02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:45,100
>> No, it never matched. I've

5064
02:20:45,100 --> 02:20:46,100
done that research. No, never

5065
02:20:46,100 --> 02:20:47,100
did it match. I can prove it

5066
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:48,100
to you if.

5067
02:20:48,100 --> 02:20:49,100
>> You want to come to my.

5068
02:20:49,100 --> 02:20:50,100
Yeah, I would love that.

5069
02:20:50,100 --> 02:20:51,100
You're just confused.

5070
02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:52,100
>> So you are really confused.

5071
02:20:52,100 --> 02:20:53,100
But okay. I'm going

5072
02:20:53,100 --> 02:20:55,100
to make a motion

5073
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:57,100
to approve this report. So did

5074
02:20:57,100 --> 02:20:58,100
that include adopting the

5075
02:20:58,100 --> 02:20:59,100
resolution?

5076
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:02,100
>> As far as the resolution

5077
02:21:03,100 --> 02:21:04,100
goes, can we hear from Reu why

5078
02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:06,100
it is that the.

5079
02:21:06,100 --> 02:21:08,100
>> Speaker. Great. All right,

5080
02:21:08,100 --> 02:21:12,201
we have a first and a second.

5081
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:18,100
Leslie.

5082
02:21:44,100 --> 02:21:45,100
>> Few things.

5083
02:21:45,100 --> 02:21:46,100
>> The annoyance.

5084
02:21:46,100 --> 02:21:48,100
>> And the boredom

5085
02:21:48,100 --> 02:21:50,100
on your faces.

5086
02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:52,100
>> Three of your faces is

5087
02:21:52,100 --> 02:21:54,100
echoed right here.

5088
02:21:54,100 --> 02:21:55,100
>> My five year old also has

5089
02:21:55,100 --> 02:21:56,100
somewhere she'd much rather be.

5090
02:21:56,100 --> 02:21:57,100
However, statements like you're

5091
02:21:57,100 --> 02:21:59,100
losing the crowd.

5092
02:21:59,100 --> 02:22:01,100
>> This is not a show,

5093
02:22:01,100 --> 02:22:04,100
this is not a TV episode. This

5094
02:22:04,100 --> 02:22:06,100
is something you signed up for.

5095
02:22:06,100 --> 02:22:08,100
>> And you asked to run for.

5096
02:22:08,100 --> 02:22:10,100
When you say she looks

5097
02:22:10,100 --> 02:22:12,100
unprepared,

5098
02:22:12,100 --> 02:22:13,100
you know who looks unprepared?

5099
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:14,100
The people who came not having

5100
02:22:14,100 --> 02:22:16,401
any questions to ask.

5101
02:22:18,100 --> 02:22:19,100
>> The people who have said I

5102
02:22:19,100 --> 02:22:20,100
understand. Wait, wait, I wrote

5103
02:22:20,100 --> 02:22:22,100
it down.

5104
02:22:22,100 --> 02:22:23,100
>> I understand.

5105
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:24,100
>> I agree.

5106
02:22:24,100 --> 02:22:25,100
>> This is similar

5107
02:22:25,100 --> 02:22:26,100
to what you've been.

5108
02:22:26,100 --> 02:22:28,100
>> Asking for,

5109
02:22:30,100 --> 02:22:31,100
yet then showed up without

5110
02:22:31,100 --> 02:22:33,100
having those items knowing

5111
02:22:33,100 --> 02:22:34,100
exactly what she was going

5112
02:22:34,100 --> 02:22:35,100
to ask for.

5113
02:22:35,100 --> 02:22:37,100
>> And then you want

5114
02:22:37,100 --> 02:22:39,100
to go to.

5115
02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:43,100
>> Social media and make a

5116
02:22:43,100 --> 02:22:44,100
video that.

5117
02:22:44,100 --> 02:22:45,100
>> Talks to us

5118
02:22:45,100 --> 02:22:47,100
like we are her.

5119
02:22:47,100 --> 02:22:48,100
>> Age and tell us you just

5120
02:22:48,100 --> 02:22:50,100
don't understand the budget.

5121
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:51,100
>> Because we took the time

5122
02:22:51,100 --> 02:22:53,100
to go be managed by staff. We

5123
02:22:53,100 --> 02:22:56,100
took the time to go have them

5124
02:22:56,100 --> 02:22:58,100
placate us and tell us what

5125
02:22:58,100 --> 02:22:59,100
to think and what

5126
02:22:59,100 --> 02:23:01,100
to do not.

5127
02:23:01,100 --> 02:23:02,100
>> Thank you.

5128
02:23:02,100 --> 02:23:04,100
>> Tenessa sat

5129
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:06,100
at home and took the time

5130
02:23:06,100 --> 02:23:07,100
to go through the report,

5131
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:09,100
took the time

5132
02:23:09,100 --> 02:23:10,100
to prepare questions,

5133
02:23:10,100 --> 02:23:11,100
took the.

5134
02:23:11,100 --> 02:23:13,100
>> Time to find out where

5135
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:15,100
things don't add up.

5136
02:23:15,100 --> 02:23:16,100
>> And guess what?

5137
02:23:16,100 --> 02:23:17,100
>> You, you,

5138
02:23:17,100 --> 02:23:20,100
and you are all up

5139
02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:22,100
for election 2026.

5140
02:23:22,100 --> 02:23:23,100
>> And I really hope you two

5141
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:24,100
don't.

5142
02:23:24,100 --> 02:23:25,100
>> Run, because I have the

5143
02:23:25,100 --> 02:23:26,100
timestamps from.

5144
02:23:26,100 --> 02:23:27,100
>> This behavior,

5145
02:23:27,100 --> 02:23:28,100
and I will show the.

5146
02:23:28,100 --> 02:23:29,100
>> Public who did the work,

5147
02:23:29,100 --> 02:23:30,100
who asked.

5148
02:23:30,100 --> 02:23:31,100
>> The questions,

5149
02:23:31,100 --> 02:23:33,401
and who wants transparency.

5150
02:23:40,100 --> 02:23:41,100
>> Okay.

5151
02:23:41,100 --> 02:23:43,100
>> I'm so upset, I can't even

5152
02:23:43,100 --> 02:23:44,100
read this and tell you the rest

5153
02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:46,100
of my. I wrote this much notes,

5154
02:23:46,100 --> 02:23:48,100
probably more notes than either

5155
02:23:48,100 --> 02:23:49,100
of you came prepared with.

5156
02:23:49,100 --> 02:23:51,100
>> So I'm shaking.

5157
02:23:51,100 --> 02:23:53,100
>> I can't even.

5158
02:23:54,100 --> 02:23:56,100
>> I'll provide a

5159
02:23:56,100 --> 02:23:58,100
reconciliation.

5160
02:23:58,100 --> 02:23:59,100
>> Guess what?

5161
02:23:59,100 --> 02:24:00,100
>> If the number that was

5162
02:24:00,100 --> 02:24:01,100
approved is.

5163
02:24:01,100 --> 02:24:02,100
>> Different than the number

5164
02:24:02,100 --> 02:24:03,100
that you're presenting, maybe

5165
02:24:03,100 --> 02:24:05,100
you should have had that

5166
02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:06,100
reconciliation. She's been

5167
02:24:06,100 --> 02:24:08,100
playing on my phone because.

5168
02:24:08,100 --> 02:24:09,100
>> I didn't plan

5169
02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:10,100
to be here this long, otherwise

5170
02:24:10,100 --> 02:24:11,100
I would have pulled up. How

5171
02:24:11,100 --> 02:24:13,100
much money you make

5172
02:24:13,100 --> 02:24:14,100
to not have those answers.

5173
02:24:14,100 --> 02:24:16,401
Come on. Just out

5174
02:24:17,100 --> 02:24:20,100
of clarity and just out

5175
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:22,100
of clarity,

5176
02:24:24,100 --> 02:24:27,601
why I can support this. And

5177
02:24:29,100 --> 02:24:31,100
point I made is I come

5178
02:24:31,100 --> 02:24:32,100
to these meetings, I ask the

5179
02:24:32,100 --> 02:24:33,100
directors a zillion questions.

5180
02:24:33,100 --> 02:24:34,100
I get on the phone, I go meet

5181
02:24:34,100 --> 02:24:35,100
with them

5182
02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:36,100
in person. I had a lot

5183
02:24:36,100 --> 02:24:37,100
of questions myself,

5184
02:24:37,100 --> 02:24:38,100
and if I'm confused

5185
02:24:38,100 --> 02:24:39,100
on things,

5186
02:24:39,100 --> 02:24:40,100
I definitely go there. There's

5187
02:24:40,100 --> 02:24:41,100
times that we take this

5188
02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:42,100
information out

5189
02:24:42,100 --> 02:24:43,100
of our meetings

5190
02:24:43,100 --> 02:24:44,100
with directors, when we meet

5191
02:24:44,100 --> 02:24:45,100
with them or talk to them

5192
02:24:45,100 --> 02:24:46,100
on the phone, and we come back

5193
02:24:46,100 --> 02:24:47,100
and sometimes we ask a question

5194
02:24:47,100 --> 02:24:48,100
where we already know the

5195
02:24:48,100 --> 02:24:49,100
answer, but we want

5196
02:24:49,100 --> 02:24:50,100
to get that answer

5197
02:24:50,100 --> 02:24:51,100
to the public itself.

5198
02:24:51,100 --> 02:24:52,100
But the difference on myself

5199
02:24:52,100 --> 02:24:54,100
and her is she didn't meet

5200
02:24:54,100 --> 02:24:56,100
with the director. I did. I met

5201
02:24:56,100 --> 02:24:57,100
with the director and had a lot

5202
02:24:57,100 --> 02:24:58,100
of questions here myself. I

5203
02:24:58,100 --> 02:24:59,100
spent tons of time. So I come

5204
02:24:59,100 --> 02:25:01,100
prepared, and I try to come the

5205
02:25:01,100 --> 02:25:03,100
most prepared I can. And I

5206
02:25:03,100 --> 02:25:04,100
think we're supposed to flush

5207
02:25:04,100 --> 02:25:06,100
out questions here

5208
02:25:06,100 --> 02:25:08,100
in different kind

5209
02:25:08,100 --> 02:25:10,100
of dialogue here, not sit here

5210
02:25:10,100 --> 02:25:11,100
for an hour or two hours asking

5211
02:25:11,100 --> 02:25:12,100
questions that we should have

5212
02:25:12,100 --> 02:25:13,100
really asked these questions

5213
02:25:13,100 --> 02:25:14,100
when we met with directors.

5214
02:25:14,100 --> 02:25:16,100
And if I have, I want to come

5215
02:25:16,100 --> 02:25:18,100
here prepared. I just want

5216
02:25:18,100 --> 02:25:19,100
to make that statement. Every

5217
02:25:19,100 --> 02:25:21,100
single time I talk to Greg, all

5218
02:25:21,100 --> 02:25:22,100
the time in finance, I wrestle

5219
02:25:22,100 --> 02:25:24,100
through all these numbers, and

5220
02:25:24,100 --> 02:25:25,100
there's some stuff I just don't

5221
02:25:25,100 --> 02:25:26,100
understand myself. But I want

5222
02:25:26,100 --> 02:25:27,100
to make sure when I'm up here,

5223
02:25:27,100 --> 02:25:28,100
I understand the information.

5224
02:25:28,100 --> 02:25:30,401
And if I don't,

5225
02:25:31,100 --> 02:25:32,100
then we can wrestle through

5226
02:25:32,100 --> 02:25:33,100
that together as a council.

5227
02:25:33,100 --> 02:25:34,100
But that. That's the best value

5228
02:25:34,100 --> 02:25:36,100
we have, is to meet with our

5229
02:25:36,100 --> 02:25:37,100
directors as often as we want.

5230
02:25:37,100 --> 02:25:38,100
We can call them

5231
02:25:38,100 --> 02:25:39,100
on the phone, we can meet

5232
02:25:39,100 --> 02:25:41,100
with them in person,

5233
02:25:41,100 --> 02:25:42,100
and they're always available.

5234
02:25:42,100 --> 02:25:44,100
And I appreciate all the time

5235
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:45,100
that you spent with me, Greg.

5236
02:25:45,100 --> 02:25:47,100
You've spent countless time

5237
02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:48,100
with me. I appreciate that.

5238
02:25:48,100 --> 02:25:50,100
Thank you. Mr. Curtis. Thank

5239
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:52,100
you. Just before the vote,

5240
02:25:52,100 --> 02:25:53,100
I wanted

5241
02:25:53,100 --> 02:25:54,100
to clarify the motion was

5242
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:55,100
for the recommended action,

5243
02:25:55,100 --> 02:25:56,100
including the adoption

5244
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:57,100
of the resolution. Is that

5245
02:25:57,100 --> 02:25:58,100
correct? Yes. And then I. This

5246
02:25:58,100 --> 02:26:00,100
is probably lost since the

5247
02:26:00,100 --> 02:26:02,100
conversations moved on,

5248
02:26:02,100 --> 02:26:03,100
but I do just want to make sure

5249
02:26:03,100 --> 02:26:04,100
that the council and the public

5250
02:26:04,100 --> 02:26:05,100
are aware when it comes

5251
02:26:05,100 --> 02:26:07,100
to an adjustment

5252
02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:08,100
to ending cash based

5253
02:26:08,100 --> 02:26:11,100
on something after the close

5254
02:26:11,100 --> 02:26:12,100
of the year, that's not because

5255
02:26:12,100 --> 02:26:13,100
there's new revenue that comes

5256
02:26:13,100 --> 02:26:14,100
in. That's because

5257
02:26:14,100 --> 02:26:15,100
of the changes,

5258
02:26:15,100 --> 02:26:16,100
corrections or changes

5259
02:26:16,100 --> 02:26:17,100
in the accounting practices,

5260
02:26:17,100 --> 02:26:18,100
things that may be adjusted

5261
02:26:18,100 --> 02:26:19,100
by the auditors, things that

5262
02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:20,100
may be adjusted that need

5263
02:26:20,100 --> 02:26:21,100
to be attributed

5264
02:26:21,100 --> 02:26:22,100
to different fiscal years,

5265
02:26:22,100 --> 02:26:23,100
different sources, et cetera.

5266
02:26:23,100 --> 02:26:25,100
So I just wanted to make sure

5267
02:26:25,100 --> 02:26:27,401
that everyone was aware

5268
02:26:28,100 --> 02:26:29,100
of that.

5269
02:26:29,100 --> 02:26:31,100
>> Thank you.

5270
02:26:34,100 --> 02:26:36,100
>> No.

5271
02:26:37,100 --> 02:26:38,100
>> Mayor, can I ask who made.

5272
02:26:38,100 --> 02:26:39,100
>> The second

5273
02:26:39,100 --> 02:26:40,100
on that?

5274
02:26:40,100 --> 02:26:41,100
>> I have. Vice Mayor Latam

5275
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:42,100
made the motion.

5276
02:26:42,100 --> 02:26:43,100
>> Aaron made the second.

5277
02:26:43,100 --> 02:26:44,100
>> Thank you.

5278
02:26:44,100 --> 02:26:46,100
>> Thank you.

5279
02:27:03,100 --> 02:27:04,100
>> Oral Report regarding City

5280
02:27:04,100 --> 02:27:05,100
of Rented Public Works Streets

5281
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:06,100
and Divisions.

5282
02:27:06,100 --> 02:27:07,100
>> Good evening, honorable

5283
02:27:07,100 --> 02:27:08,100
Mayor, members

5284
02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:09,100
of the council, staff,

5285
02:27:09,100 --> 02:27:10,100
colleagues, community, this

5286
02:27:10,100 --> 02:27:11,100
evening I will be providing a

5287
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:12,100
Streets Department update,

5288
02:27:12,100 --> 02:27:13,100
very similar to what Director

5289
02:27:13,100 --> 02:27:14,100
many provided for the

5290
02:27:14,100 --> 02:27:15,100
Community Services Department

5291
02:27:15,100 --> 02:27:16,100
maybe two or three council

5292
02:27:16,100 --> 02:27:18,100
meetings ago. Oh, there we go.

5293
02:27:18,100 --> 02:27:21,100
This Evening I have 16 slides

5294
02:27:26,100 --> 02:27:28,100
for you all,

5295
02:27:28,100 --> 02:27:29,100
including questions.

5296
02:27:29,100 --> 02:27:31,100
Obviously, I will be here and

5297
02:27:31,100 --> 02:27:33,100
available for questions

5298
02:27:33,100 --> 02:27:37,201
at the end. First, I will touch

5299
02:27:38,100 --> 02:27:39,100
on the Streets Division

5300
02:27:39,100 --> 02:27:40,100
functions. Then I will touch

5301
02:27:40,100 --> 02:27:41,100
on the fund, the various

5302
02:27:41,100 --> 02:27:42,100
various, excuse me,

5303
02:27:42,100 --> 02:27:44,100
funding sources that come

5304
02:27:44,100 --> 02:27:45,100
into the Streets Department.

5305
02:27:45,100 --> 02:27:46,100
Then I'm going to touch

5306
02:27:46,100 --> 02:27:48,100
on a brief financial summary

5307
02:27:48,100 --> 02:27:50,100
for the Streets Department.

5308
02:27:50,100 --> 02:27:52,100
And then I will touch on one

5309
02:27:52,100 --> 02:27:53,100
of the things that keeps me up

5310
02:27:53,100 --> 02:27:54,100
at night,

5311
02:27:54,100 --> 02:27:55,100
the current condition of our

5312
02:27:55,100 --> 02:27:57,100
pavement throughout the city.

5313
02:27:57,100 --> 02:27:58,100
I'll talk about the pavement

5314
02:27:58,100 --> 02:27:59,100
condition index. I'll provide

5315
02:27:59,100 --> 02:28:00,100
examples of current PCI scores

5316
02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:02,100
within the city. And then I'll

5317
02:28:02,100 --> 02:28:04,100
talk about a PCI funding

5318
02:28:04,100 --> 02:28:06,100
forecast that we have

5319
02:28:06,100 --> 02:28:08,100
for you. So first, touching

5320
02:28:08,100 --> 02:28:10,401
on the Streets Division

5321
02:28:15,100 --> 02:28:17,100
functions, some

5322
02:28:19,100 --> 02:28:20,100
of the core assets that the

5323
02:28:20,100 --> 02:28:21,100
Streets Department are

5324
02:28:21,100 --> 02:28:23,100
responsible for are roughly

5325
02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:26,100
450 roadway miles. And when I

5326
02:28:26,100 --> 02:28:27,100
say roadway miles, what I truly

5327
02:28:27,100 --> 02:28:28,100
mean there is center lane

5328
02:28:28,100 --> 02:28:31,601
miles. And when we convert that

5329
02:28:32,100 --> 02:28:34,100
based on the number

5330
02:28:34,100 --> 02:28:36,100
of lanes that are out there,

5331
02:28:36,100 --> 02:28:38,401
we have approximately 940 lane

5332
02:28:39,100 --> 02:28:40,100
miles of pavement that we're

5333
02:28:40,100 --> 02:28:43,100
responsible for here at the

5334
02:28:43,100 --> 02:28:44,100
City of Reading. And I know

5335
02:28:44,100 --> 02:28:45,100
council has heard me talk

5336
02:28:45,100 --> 02:28:47,100
about this prior, but just as a

5337
02:28:47,100 --> 02:28:48,100
good reference point, one

5338
02:28:48,100 --> 02:28:49,100
of our neighboring cities,

5339
02:28:49,100 --> 02:28:50,100
Chico, has a very similar size

5340
02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:52,100
population,

5341
02:28:52,100 --> 02:28:54,100
but they roughly have

5342
02:28:54,100 --> 02:28:55,100
about half the lane miles

5343
02:28:55,100 --> 02:28:57,401
to maintain about 568. Our

5344
02:28:58,100 --> 02:29:00,401
streets department is also

5345
02:29:01,100 --> 02:29:02,100
responsible for the 118 bridges

5346
02:29:02,100 --> 02:29:04,100
that we have and we also have

5347
02:29:04,100 --> 02:29:06,100
about 570 miles of sidewalk,

5348
02:29:06,100 --> 02:29:08,100
12,000 signs, 82 traffic

5349
02:29:08,100 --> 02:29:10,100
signals and 47 rectangular

5350
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:14,100
rapid flashing beacons. On top

5351
02:29:14,100 --> 02:29:15,100
of the hard assets that the

5352
02:29:15,100 --> 02:29:17,100
Streets department is

5353
02:29:17,100 --> 02:29:20,100
responsible for, we also have a

5354
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:21,100
traffic engineering division

5355
02:29:21,100 --> 02:29:23,100
that is embedded within the

5356
02:29:23,100 --> 02:29:25,401
Streets department. This unit

5357
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:28,100
is responsible

5358
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:29,100
for evaluating requests for

5359
02:29:29,100 --> 02:29:30,100
traffic control devices which I

5360
02:29:30,100 --> 02:29:31,100
know most, if not all

5361
02:29:31,100 --> 02:29:32,100
of you are very familiar with.

5362
02:29:32,100 --> 02:29:34,100
We get requests

5363
02:29:36,100 --> 02:29:38,100
from communities very often

5364
02:29:38,100 --> 02:29:39,100
to put in speed tables, sign

5365
02:29:39,100 --> 02:29:40,100
packages, rectangular rapid

5366
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:42,100
flashing beacons and the likes.

5367
02:29:42,100 --> 02:29:43,100
This unit also prepares

5368
02:29:43,100 --> 02:29:44,100
engineering studies related

5369
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:45,100
to speed and speed limits,

5370
02:29:45,100 --> 02:29:46,100
commonly referred to as

5371
02:29:46,100 --> 02:29:47,100
engineering and traffic studies

5372
02:29:47,100 --> 02:29:48,100
or ENTs for short. They also

5373
02:29:48,100 --> 02:29:49,100
maintain our traffic counts and

5374
02:29:49,100 --> 02:29:50,100
accident data, develop projects

5375
02:29:50,100 --> 02:29:51,100
that have a multimodal focus.

5376
02:29:51,100 --> 02:29:52,100
They also work through a lot

5377
02:29:52,100 --> 02:29:53,100
of the permitting process

5378
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:55,100
for special events

5379
02:29:55,100 --> 02:29:56,100
in the likes of that. Now we

5380
02:29:56,100 --> 02:29:59,100
have about, not about, excuse

5381
02:30:00,100 --> 02:30:03,100
me, we have 19.5 full time

5382
02:30:06,100 --> 02:30:07,100
equivalents currently in the

5383
02:30:07,100 --> 02:30:09,100
streets department and you'll

5384
02:30:09,100 --> 02:30:11,100
notice there that I bring

5385
02:30:11,100 --> 02:30:13,100
mention to that within the last

5386
02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:16,601
the new budget cycle that we

5387
02:30:20,100 --> 02:30:22,100
started July 1st

5388
02:30:22,100 --> 02:30:24,100
of this year, I did work with

5389
02:30:24,100 --> 02:30:26,401
city manager's office and

5390
02:30:27,100 --> 02:30:29,100
council and recommended it and

5391
02:30:29,100 --> 02:30:31,100
got approved

5392
02:30:31,100 --> 02:30:32,100
for an additional position

5393
02:30:32,100 --> 02:30:34,401
in the traffic Engineering

5394
02:30:35,100 --> 02:30:36,100
group. So we do have that new

5395
02:30:36,100 --> 02:30:37,100
position there.

5396
02:30:37,100 --> 02:30:38,100
But when we break

5397
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:40,100
down the FTEs between the

5398
02:30:40,100 --> 02:30:41,100
streets department and traffic

5399
02:30:41,100 --> 02:30:43,100
unit, we have 15.5 FTEs

5400
02:30:43,100 --> 02:30:45,100
in the streets department and

5401
02:30:45,100 --> 02:30:47,100
of note there 2.5 of those FTEs

5402
02:30:47,100 --> 02:30:49,100
are actually made up

5403
02:30:49,100 --> 02:30:52,100
from part time employees. So

5404
02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:53,100
there's roughly four to five

5405
02:30:53,100 --> 02:30:55,100
employees that work part time

5406
02:30:55,100 --> 02:30:57,100
that equate up to 2.5 full time

5407
02:30:57,100 --> 02:30:59,100
equivalents. And then in our

5408
02:30:59,100 --> 02:31:01,100
traffic division we have four

5409
02:31:01,100 --> 02:31:03,100
full time equivalent positions,

5410
02:31:03,100 --> 02:31:04,100
including the one new position

5411
02:31:04,100 --> 02:31:05,100
that was authorized

5412
02:31:05,100 --> 02:31:07,100
in the current budget. So that

5413
02:31:07,100 --> 02:31:09,100
is a quick snapshot

5414
02:31:09,100 --> 02:31:11,100
of what the Streets Division is

5415
02:31:11,100 --> 02:31:13,100
responsible for

5416
02:31:13,100 --> 02:31:14,100
from an asset perspective,

5417
02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:16,100
as well as some of the

5418
02:31:16,100 --> 02:31:17,100
engineering traffic duties that

5419
02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:18,100
they provide,

5420
02:31:18,100 --> 02:31:19,100
as well as the number

5421
02:31:19,100 --> 02:31:21,100
of staff that we have

5422
02:31:21,100 --> 02:31:24,100
to provide those services. So

5423
02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:28,100
jump and I should have

5424
02:31:28,100 --> 02:31:29,100
mentioned in the beginning,

5425
02:31:29,100 --> 02:31:30,100
I will obviously be available

5426
02:31:30,100 --> 02:31:32,100
for questions at the end,

5427
02:31:32,100 --> 02:31:33,100
but I would encourage council

5428
02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:35,100
to stop me or pause me if you

5429
02:31:35,100 --> 02:31:37,100
have a question as I'm running

5430
02:31:37,100 --> 02:31:38,100
through the presentation. So

5431
02:31:38,100 --> 02:31:40,100
here I'm going to touch

5432
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:42,100
on the Street's funding

5433
02:31:42,100 --> 02:31:43,100
sources. There's a lot of

5434
02:31:43,100 --> 02:31:44,100
information here and I'm going

5435
02:31:44,100 --> 02:31:45,100
to try my hardest not

5436
02:31:45,100 --> 02:31:46,100
to simply read it off to each

5437
02:31:46,100 --> 02:31:47,100
of you, but I'm going

5438
02:31:47,100 --> 02:31:49,100
to try and touch

5439
02:31:49,100 --> 02:31:50,100
on what I believe are the,

5440
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:51,100
the most important aspects

5441
02:31:51,100 --> 02:31:54,100
of this. So you'll see

5442
02:31:54,100 --> 02:31:55,100
at the table

5443
02:31:55,100 --> 02:31:56,100
on the very top right, you'll

5444
02:31:56,100 --> 02:31:57,100
see a column labeled total.

5445
02:31:57,100 --> 02:31:59,100
What that is showing is that is

5446
02:31:59,100 --> 02:32:00,100
showing our total revenue

5447
02:32:00,100 --> 02:32:02,100
for each fiscal year. Now, I

5448
02:32:02,100 --> 02:32:03,100
would like Council to keep

5449
02:32:03,100 --> 02:32:06,601
in mind that for 2324, that is

5450
02:32:07,100 --> 02:32:10,100
an actual number for 2425, the

5451
02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:13,401
12.76 million that you see,

5452
02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:16,100
that is very close to an actual

5453
02:32:16,100 --> 02:32:17,100
number because we're still

5454
02:32:17,100 --> 02:32:19,100
finalizing everything as

5455
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:21,100
Director Robinette walked

5456
02:32:21,100 --> 02:32:23,401
through previously. And then

5457
02:32:24,100 --> 02:32:25,100
you will Notice that for 2526

5458
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:28,100
and 2627, you will see numbers

5459
02:32:28,100 --> 02:32:30,401
slightly over 12.3 million that

5460
02:32:31,100 --> 02:32:32,100
represent what we expect

5461
02:32:32,100 --> 02:32:33,100
to receive from the various

5462
02:32:33,100 --> 02:32:35,100
revenue sources throughout

5463
02:32:35,100 --> 02:32:38,100
those fiscal years. Now, one

5464
02:32:38,100 --> 02:32:39,100
of the benefits that the

5465
02:32:39,100 --> 02:32:40,100
Streets Department has is we do

5466
02:32:40,100 --> 02:32:42,100
get a lot of information from

5467
02:32:42,100 --> 02:32:43,100
the state regarding what our

5468
02:32:43,100 --> 02:32:45,100
revenue, anticipated revenue

5469
02:32:46,100 --> 02:32:48,100
sources are going to be

5470
02:32:48,100 --> 02:32:49,100
for the upcoming years. So that

5471
02:32:49,100 --> 02:32:51,100
is a great benefit for us from

5472
02:32:51,100 --> 02:32:53,100
a planning perspective and

5473
02:32:53,100 --> 02:32:54,100
removes a little bit

5474
02:32:54,100 --> 02:32:56,100
of the volatility.

5475
02:32:56,100 --> 02:32:59,100
Volatility, excuse me, from the

5476
02:32:59,100 --> 02:33:00,100
streets revenue itself. Now, a

5477
02:33:00,100 --> 02:33:02,100
few things I wanted to point

5478
02:33:02,100 --> 02:33:03,100
out here that I think are

5479
02:33:03,100 --> 02:33:04,100
of note. One, you might notice

5480
02:33:04,100 --> 02:33:06,100
and bear with me, I'm going

5481
02:33:06,100 --> 02:33:07,100
to attempt

5482
02:33:07,100 --> 02:33:09,100
to use the pointer here.

5483
02:33:09,100 --> 02:33:11,100
>> Or not.

5484
02:33:15,100 --> 02:33:18,100
>> In the rstp column. For

5485
02:33:19,100 --> 02:33:21,401
2324, you'll notice there's a

5486
02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:26,401
number of just under $1.4

5487
02:33:28,100 --> 02:33:29,100
million. And then you will

5488
02:33:29,100 --> 02:33:30,100
notice right below it,

5489
02:33:30,100 --> 02:33:31,100
we jump up to 1.6 and we kind

5490
02:33:31,100 --> 02:33:33,401
of hover around there

5491
02:33:34,100 --> 02:33:35,100
for the next couple years.

5492
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:37,100
That is directly attributable

5493
02:33:37,100 --> 02:33:39,100
to changes that we've made,

5494
02:33:39,100 --> 02:33:40,100
working with SERTA and our

5495
02:33:40,100 --> 02:33:42,100
other partner agencies

5496
02:33:42,100 --> 02:33:43,100
to find the most appropriate

5497
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:44,100
use for those funds,

5498
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:45,100
to make sure that each

5499
02:33:45,100 --> 02:33:47,100
of the agencies within Shasta

5500
02:33:47,100 --> 02:33:48,100
county receive the maximum

5501
02:33:48,100 --> 02:33:51,100
amount of funding we can

5502
02:33:51,100 --> 02:33:53,100
for street maintenance.

5503
02:33:53,100 --> 02:33:54,100
Directly to the left of that

5504
02:33:54,100 --> 02:33:56,100
column you'll see the column

5505
02:33:56,100 --> 02:33:58,100
labeled entitled TDA. And

5506
02:33:58,100 --> 02:33:59,100
you'll notice that in 2324 we

5507
02:33:59,100 --> 02:34:02,100
had a actual revenue of just

5508
02:34:02,100 --> 02:34:04,100
over 2.8 million. And then

5509
02:34:04,100 --> 02:34:07,100
you'll notice that we had an

5510
02:34:07,100 --> 02:34:09,401
increase of about 1.5 between

5511
02:34:10,100 --> 02:34:12,100
2324 and 2425. That is directly

5512
02:34:12,100 --> 02:34:14,100
attributable to Rabba's efforts

5513
02:34:14,100 --> 02:34:16,100
through Assistant City

5514
02:34:16,100 --> 02:34:18,100
Manager Steve Bade and his

5515
02:34:18,100 --> 02:34:21,100
staff in finding creative ways

5516
02:34:21,100 --> 02:34:23,100
and grants

5517
02:34:23,100 --> 02:34:25,100
to fund transit operations

5518
02:34:25,100 --> 02:34:26,100
through Raba, which ultimately

5519
02:34:26,100 --> 02:34:27,100
frees up revenue sources

5520
02:34:27,100 --> 02:34:28,100
for all of the agencies

5521
02:34:28,100 --> 02:34:30,100
within Shasta county to spend

5522
02:34:30,100 --> 02:34:31,100
on street maintenance. So I do

5523
02:34:31,100 --> 02:34:32,100
want

5524
02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:33,100
to highlight those two areas

5525
02:34:33,100 --> 02:34:34,100
for council to be aware

5526
02:34:34,100 --> 02:34:35,100
of because those are

5527
02:34:35,100 --> 02:34:36,100
in the.

5528
02:34:36,100 --> 02:34:38,100
>> They.

5529
02:34:39,100 --> 02:34:40,100
>> Are making up the biggest

5530
02:34:40,100 --> 02:34:41,100
aspect, excuse me,

5531
02:34:41,100 --> 02:34:43,100
of the increase we're seeing

5532
02:34:43,100 --> 02:34:45,100
in revenue between 23242425

5533
02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:49,100
in the following two years. So

5534
02:34:49,100 --> 02:34:51,100
I'm going to pause here and see

5535
02:34:51,100 --> 02:34:52,100
if there are any questions

5536
02:34:52,100 --> 02:34:53,100
before I move on. I understand

5537
02:34:53,100 --> 02:34:54,100
there's a lot of information

5538
02:34:54,100 --> 02:34:56,100
to digest. Okay, moving on.

5539
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:58,100
And I'm happy

5540
02:35:01,100 --> 02:35:03,100
to go back if needed later. So

5541
02:35:03,100 --> 02:35:06,100
here we're going to pivot

5542
02:35:08,100 --> 02:35:09,100
from revenue

5543
02:35:09,100 --> 02:35:11,100
to what I titled, excuse me,

5544
02:35:11,100 --> 02:35:12,100
a Streets financial summary.

5545
02:35:12,100 --> 02:35:13,100
You'll notice

5546
02:35:13,100 --> 02:35:15,100
on the second column

5547
02:35:15,100 --> 02:35:18,100
from the left again, the total

5548
02:35:18,100 --> 02:35:20,100
revenue amounts show up. And

5549
02:35:20,100 --> 02:35:21,100
those are the same numbers that

5550
02:35:21,100 --> 02:35:24,100
we had on the previous slide.

5551
02:35:24,100 --> 02:35:26,100
And then we walk through it's

5552
02:35:26,100 --> 02:35:27,100
from left to right we talk

5553
02:35:27,100 --> 02:35:28,100
about total budget,

5554
02:35:28,100 --> 02:35:30,100
then we talk

5555
02:35:30,100 --> 02:35:31,100
about total expenses. And we

5556
02:35:31,100 --> 02:35:33,100
break the expenses up into

5557
02:35:33,100 --> 02:35:34,100
three primary food groups or

5558
02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:35,100
categories, if you will,

5559
02:35:35,100 --> 02:35:36,100
including O and M capital and

5560
02:35:36,100 --> 02:35:38,100
personnel. And then we touch

5561
02:35:38,100 --> 02:35:39,100
on carryover,

5562
02:35:39,100 --> 02:35:40,100
which I will explain here

5563
02:35:40,100 --> 02:35:43,100
in a few moments. So you'll

5564
02:35:43,100 --> 02:35:44,100
notice that our revenues are

5565
02:35:44,100 --> 02:35:47,100
hovering around that at least

5566
02:35:48,100 --> 02:35:50,100
after 2324. We're hovering

5567
02:35:50,100 --> 02:35:53,100
in that $12.5 million per year

5568
02:35:54,100 --> 02:35:57,100
range. And you'll notice that

5569
02:35:57,100 --> 02:36:00,100
our budget for 2425 ended up

5570
02:36:00,100 --> 02:36:02,100
being 19.4. And you'll notice

5571
02:36:02,100 --> 02:36:04,100
that our adopted budgets for

5572
02:36:04,100 --> 02:36:06,100
25, 26, 26, 27 are

5573
02:36:07,100 --> 02:36:10,100
in that low 11 range. And

5574
02:36:10,100 --> 02:36:12,100
you'll see our expenditures,

5575
02:36:12,100 --> 02:36:15,100
O and M capital and personnel.

5576
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:18,100
So a few things I'd like

5577
02:36:18,100 --> 02:36:20,100
to point out here.

5578
02:36:20,100 --> 02:36:21,100
On average,

5579
02:36:21,100 --> 02:36:22,100
our O and m is roughly 30%

5580
02:36:22,100 --> 02:36:23,100
of our total expenditures, with

5581
02:36:23,100 --> 02:36:24,100
our capital costs being roughly

5582
02:36:24,100 --> 02:36:25,100
about 47% of our total expenses

5583
02:36:25,100 --> 02:36:26,100
and our personnel costs making

5584
02:36:26,100 --> 02:36:28,100
up the remainder, which is

5585
02:36:28,100 --> 02:36:31,100
about 24%. So a pretty decent

5586
02:36:31,100 --> 02:36:33,100
split of how we're spending the

5587
02:36:33,100 --> 02:36:34,100
resources there. Now keep

5588
02:36:34,100 --> 02:36:35,100
in mind, when I say O and M,

5589
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:37,100
what I'm talking about there

5590
02:36:37,100 --> 02:36:39,401
are equipment costs, fuel

5591
02:36:40,100 --> 02:36:41,100
costs, material costs,

5592
02:36:41,100 --> 02:36:43,100
and the likes of all that. So

5593
02:36:43,100 --> 02:36:44,100
that's the pothole material,

5594
02:36:44,100 --> 02:36:45,100
the cracked ceiling,

5595
02:36:45,100 --> 02:36:47,401
that's fuel. That's everything

5596
02:36:48,100 --> 02:36:49,100
that our Streets True Blue

5597
02:36:49,100 --> 02:36:51,100
maintenance crew needs and uses

5598
02:36:51,100 --> 02:36:52,100
every day to go out there and

5599
02:36:52,100 --> 02:36:54,100
maintain what we have. When I

5600
02:36:54,100 --> 02:36:56,100
talk about capital projects,

5601
02:36:56,100 --> 02:36:57,100
what I'm referring to there are

5602
02:36:57,100 --> 02:36:59,100
projects that we're putting

5603
02:36:59,100 --> 02:37:00,100
through the project delivery

5604
02:37:00,100 --> 02:37:02,100
machine, for a lack

5605
02:37:02,100 --> 02:37:04,100
of a better term,

5606
02:37:04,100 --> 02:37:05,100
that are going through a

5607
02:37:05,100 --> 02:37:06,100
planning process and

5608
02:37:06,100 --> 02:37:07,100
environmental approval. We're

5609
02:37:07,100 --> 02:37:09,100
developing full contract

5610
02:37:09,100 --> 02:37:10,100
documents and we're putting

5611
02:37:10,100 --> 02:37:11,100
those out to bid. And a

5612
02:37:11,100 --> 02:37:13,100
contractor is bidding them and

5613
02:37:13,100 --> 02:37:15,100
building them them. And then

5614
02:37:15,100 --> 02:37:16,100
the personnel costs are just

5615
02:37:16,100 --> 02:37:17,100
what they sound. That is what

5616
02:37:17,100 --> 02:37:19,100
we that's what it costs us

5617
02:37:19,100 --> 02:37:20,100
to have the team to get all

5618
02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:22,100
those projects and efforts

5619
02:37:22,100 --> 02:37:24,401
completed. So I'm going

5620
02:37:27,100 --> 02:37:28,100
to touch.

5621
02:37:28,100 --> 02:37:29,100
>> Can I interrupt you and ask

5622
02:37:29,100 --> 02:37:30,100
a question just a little bit

5623
02:37:30,100 --> 02:37:31,100
further in that O M versus

5624
02:37:31,100 --> 02:37:34,100
Capital. How much of road

5625
02:37:34,100 --> 02:37:35,100
maintenance or how big is a

5626
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:37,100
project before it's out

5627
02:37:37,100 --> 02:37:38,100
of O and M and into

5628
02:37:38,100 --> 02:37:39,100
like capital? If you're. Is O M

5629
02:37:39,100 --> 02:37:41,100
always maintenance, that's like

5630
02:37:41,100 --> 02:37:42,100
ceiling or patchwork or

5631
02:37:42,100 --> 02:37:43,100
something along those sort

5632
02:37:43,100 --> 02:37:44,100
of lines.

5633
02:37:44,100 --> 02:37:45,100
>> It predominantly is. And we

5634
02:37:45,100 --> 02:37:47,100
do have, and that's a great

5635
02:37:47,100 --> 02:37:48,100
question, we do have a few

5636
02:37:48,100 --> 02:37:50,100
contracts, if you will,

5637
02:37:50,100 --> 02:37:51,100
that do end up living

5638
02:37:51,100 --> 02:37:52,100
in the O and M bucket.

5639
02:37:52,100 --> 02:37:55,100
But they are more for.

5640
02:37:56,100 --> 02:37:58,100
From a maintenance perspective.

5641
02:37:58,100 --> 02:38:00,100
For example,

5642
02:38:01,100 --> 02:38:03,100
we have a few contracts for

5643
02:38:03,100 --> 02:38:04,100
what we would call sidewalk

5644
02:38:04,100 --> 02:38:05,100
leveling. If you recall

5645
02:38:05,100 --> 02:38:06,100
from a few slides ago,

5646
02:38:06,100 --> 02:38:08,401
we have roughly 570 miles

5647
02:38:09,100 --> 02:38:12,100
of sidewalk and a number

5648
02:38:12,100 --> 02:38:15,100
of our panels have moved due to

5649
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:17,100
tree roots or age or whatever.

5650
02:38:17,100 --> 02:38:18,100
So we have a contract

5651
02:38:18,100 --> 02:38:20,100
with a vendor to where our

5652
02:38:20,100 --> 02:38:22,100
maintenance crews identify

5653
02:38:22,100 --> 02:38:23,100
those locations and then they

5654
02:38:23,100 --> 02:38:25,100
issue work orders essentially

5655
02:38:25,100 --> 02:38:26,100
for that contractor to go

5656
02:38:26,100 --> 02:38:28,100
out there and grind

5657
02:38:28,100 --> 02:38:29,100
down those vertical edges. We

5658
02:38:29,100 --> 02:38:31,100
also have a similar contract

5659
02:38:31,100 --> 02:38:32,100
with a contractor for them.

5660
02:38:32,100 --> 02:38:35,100
When those panels have been

5661
02:38:36,100 --> 02:38:38,100
damaged well

5662
02:38:38,100 --> 02:38:39,100
beyond the ability

5663
02:38:39,100 --> 02:38:41,100
to be maintained,

5664
02:38:42,100 --> 02:38:43,100
that vendor will go out and

5665
02:38:43,100 --> 02:38:45,100
completely remove the failed

5666
02:38:45,100 --> 02:38:46,100
panels and replace with new.

5667
02:38:46,100 --> 02:38:48,100
We also have a striping

5668
02:38:48,100 --> 02:38:49,100
contract, an annual contract

5669
02:38:49,100 --> 02:38:50,100
where we put that out to bid.

5670
02:38:50,100 --> 02:38:52,100
And for streets that are not

5671
02:38:52,100 --> 02:38:53,100
getting any capital work

5672
02:38:53,100 --> 02:38:55,401
in the near future,

5673
02:38:58,100 --> 02:39:00,401
but our pavement delineation,

5674
02:39:01,100 --> 02:39:02,100
either the striping or the

5675
02:39:02,100 --> 02:39:04,100
markings or the markers are non

5676
02:39:04,100 --> 02:39:06,100
existent or need

5677
02:39:08,100 --> 02:39:09,100
to be freshened up. Our streets

5678
02:39:09,100 --> 02:39:12,601
crew will use that contract and

5679
02:39:13,100 --> 02:39:14,100
the resources there

5680
02:39:14,100 --> 02:39:15,100
to have that contractor go out

5681
02:39:15,100 --> 02:39:16,100
there and refresh the

5682
02:39:16,100 --> 02:39:17,100
delineation

5683
02:39:17,100 --> 02:39:19,100
along the streets.

5684
02:39:19,100 --> 02:39:21,100
>> Cool.

5685
02:39:21,100 --> 02:39:22,100
>> Thank you.

5686
02:39:22,100 --> 02:39:23,100
>> So jumping back into this,

5687
02:39:23,100 --> 02:39:24,100
I'm going to touch

5688
02:39:24,100 --> 02:39:25,100
on the carryovers. So you'll

5689
02:39:25,100 --> 02:39:26,100
see on the very far right

5690
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:27,100
column we have a column title

5691
02:39:27,100 --> 02:39:28,100
titled Carryover from P Y.

5692
02:39:28,100 --> 02:39:30,401
Excuse me, PY stands

5693
02:39:31,100 --> 02:39:32,100
for prior year. And what I'm

5694
02:39:32,100 --> 02:39:34,100
showing there is that for the

5695
02:39:34,100 --> 02:39:36,100
2324 fiscal year we transfer,

5696
02:39:36,100 --> 02:39:38,100
we carried

5697
02:39:38,100 --> 02:39:39,100
over and excuse me,

5698
02:39:39,100 --> 02:39:40,100
I might mix up some

5699
02:39:40,100 --> 02:39:43,100
of the financial terms. So I'm

5700
02:39:43,100 --> 02:39:45,100
going to do my very best to,

5701
02:39:45,100 --> 02:39:47,100
to use the correct ones. And if

5702
02:39:47,100 --> 02:39:49,100
director Robinette throws

5703
02:39:49,100 --> 02:39:51,100
something at me,

5704
02:39:51,100 --> 02:39:52,100
you knew that I. You'll know

5705
02:39:52,100 --> 02:39:53,100
that I used the wrong one.

5706
02:39:53,100 --> 02:39:55,100
But we transferred in,

5707
02:39:55,100 --> 02:39:57,100
or carried over, excuse me,

5708
02:39:57,100 --> 02:39:58,100
just under $5 million

5709
02:39:58,100 --> 02:39:59,100
into the 2324 year specifically

5710
02:39:59,100 --> 02:40:00,100
for streets projects. Then

5711
02:40:00,100 --> 02:40:01,000
for the the next year, 2425,

5712
02:40:01,000 --> 02:40:04,000
there was just just under 5.1

5713
02:40:07,100 --> 02:40:09,401
million transferred from the

5714
02:40:10,100 --> 02:40:12,100
2324 year into the 2425. And

5715
02:40:12,100 --> 02:40:14,100
then right now we are

5716
02:40:14,100 --> 02:40:16,100
anticipating, and I'm going

5717
02:40:16,100 --> 02:40:19,601
to try and be very clear,

5718
02:40:21,100 --> 02:40:22,100
we are anticipating just over

5719
02:40:22,100 --> 02:40:24,100
10 million being transferred

5720
02:40:24,100 --> 02:40:27,100
from the previous fiscal year,

5721
02:40:27,100 --> 02:40:29,100
which is 24, 25

5722
02:40:29,100 --> 02:40:31,100
into the current fiscal year,

5723
02:40:31,100 --> 02:40:32,100
which is 2526. Now my team is

5724
02:40:32,100 --> 02:40:35,100
working internally as well as

5725
02:40:36,100 --> 02:40:38,401
with the finance department

5726
02:40:39,100 --> 02:40:41,100
to get all the final invoices

5727
02:40:41,100 --> 02:40:43,100
to get the final bills. We're

5728
02:40:43,100 --> 02:40:44,100
waiting for contractors

5729
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:46,100
to submit theirs,

5730
02:40:47,100 --> 02:40:48,100
and once we have all that

5731
02:40:48,100 --> 02:40:49,100
information, we'll have gone

5732
02:40:49,100 --> 02:40:50,100
through the final process to

5733
02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:51,100
determine what that actual

5734
02:40:51,100 --> 02:40:52,100
carryover will be.

5735
02:40:52,100 --> 02:40:55,601
But right now we anticipate it

5736
02:40:56,100 --> 02:40:58,100
to be roughly $10.1 million.

5737
02:40:58,100 --> 02:41:00,100
And I have a detailed list of

5738
02:41:00,100 --> 02:41:01,100
all the projects that make up

5739
02:41:01,100 --> 02:41:02,100
that $10.1 million and would be

5740
02:41:02,100 --> 02:41:04,100
happy to provide it

5741
02:41:04,100 --> 02:41:06,100
to council.

5742
02:41:06,100 --> 02:41:07,100
But essentially it's a list of

5743
02:41:07,100 --> 02:41:09,100
about 20 projects that consists

5744
02:41:09,100 --> 02:41:12,100
of projects where streets funds

5745
02:41:12,100 --> 02:41:14,100
are being used as a match,

5746
02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:15,100
like on the Bocelli project.

5747
02:41:15,100 --> 02:41:17,100
It's projects where the

5748
02:41:17,100 --> 02:41:19,100
Streets Department or the

5749
02:41:19,100 --> 02:41:20,100
Streets Revenue is funding the

5750
02:41:20,100 --> 02:41:22,100
asphalt work that we're doing

5751
02:41:22,100 --> 02:41:24,100
along Hartnell right now. It's

5752
02:41:24,100 --> 02:41:26,100
funding projects

5753
02:41:27,100 --> 02:41:28,100
like we're doing for the Cape

5754
02:41:28,100 --> 02:41:29,100
Seal and some

5755
02:41:29,100 --> 02:41:30,100
of the subdivisions

5756
02:41:30,100 --> 02:41:31,100
on the northern part

5757
02:41:31,100 --> 02:41:33,100
of town and a whole slew of

5758
02:41:33,100 --> 02:41:34,100
other projects that are still

5759
02:41:34,100 --> 02:41:35,100
having the books closed out, or

5760
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:36,100
there's final little remaining

5761
02:41:36,100 --> 02:41:37,100
tidbits of work that need

5762
02:41:37,100 --> 02:41:38,100
to remain, and that money will

5763
02:41:38,100 --> 02:41:40,100
then ultimately go

5764
02:41:40,100 --> 02:41:41,100
into the general fund,

5765
02:41:41,100 --> 02:41:43,100
and so those bills can be paid.

5766
02:41:43,100 --> 02:41:45,401
So I'm going to.

5767
02:41:46,100 --> 02:41:49,100
>> Work that you've done, but

5768
02:41:49,100 --> 02:41:50,100
you haven't collected on.

5769
02:41:50,100 --> 02:41:52,401
>> I like to think

5770
02:41:53,100 --> 02:41:54,100
about it again, and I'm trying

5771
02:41:54,100 --> 02:41:55,100
to stay in my lane,

5772
02:41:55,100 --> 02:41:56,100
and I'm not the finance expert,

5773
02:41:56,100 --> 02:41:58,100
but the work has either been

5774
02:41:58,100 --> 02:42:01,100
completed and we haven't had

5775
02:42:02,100 --> 02:42:03,100
to pay it yet, or. Or it has

5776
02:42:03,100 --> 02:42:06,100
yet to been completed and we

5777
02:42:06,100 --> 02:42:07,100
know we're going to have

5778
02:42:07,100 --> 02:42:08,100
to pay it

5779
02:42:08,100 --> 02:42:09,100
in that fiscal year.

5780
02:42:09,100 --> 02:42:10,100
>> But you have the revenue

5781
02:42:10,100 --> 02:42:11,100
already.

5782
02:42:11,100 --> 02:42:12,100
>> We have the revenue. That is

5783
02:42:12,100 --> 02:42:13,100
correct,

5784
02:42:13,100 --> 02:42:14,100
and that's what I'm going

5785
02:42:14,100 --> 02:42:15,100
to touch on.

5786
02:42:15,100 --> 02:42:16,100
>> This is a billing issue.

5787
02:42:16,100 --> 02:42:17,100
This is just getting that money

5788
02:42:17,100 --> 02:42:18,100
in because the work's gone

5789
02:42:18,100 --> 02:42:19,100
out and you have the revenue

5790
02:42:19,100 --> 02:42:20,100
for it. It just hasn't been

5791
02:42:20,100 --> 02:42:22,100
billed to be, like,

5792
02:42:22,100 --> 02:42:23,100
finished.

5793
02:42:23,100 --> 02:42:25,100
>> That is correct. And I

5794
02:42:25,100 --> 02:42:26,100
believe the next couple numbers

5795
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:27,100
you see there,

5796
02:42:27,100 --> 02:42:28,100
the four numbers on the bottom

5797
02:42:28,100 --> 02:42:29,100
of the slide, will help make

5798
02:42:29,100 --> 02:42:31,100
the point you're articulating.

5799
02:42:31,100 --> 02:42:32,100
But go ahead.

5800
02:42:32,100 --> 02:42:33,100
>> Is the carryovers. Are these

5801
02:42:33,100 --> 02:42:34,100
like, carrying over year

5802
02:42:34,100 --> 02:42:36,100
after year, or is it a new

5803
02:42:36,100 --> 02:42:37,100
amount each year?

5804
02:42:37,100 --> 02:42:38,100
>> Essentially, what it boils

5805
02:42:38,100 --> 02:42:39,100
down to is projects take longer

5806
02:42:39,100 --> 02:42:40,100
than one year to plan,

5807
02:42:40,100 --> 02:42:42,100
produce the contract documents

5808
02:42:42,100 --> 02:42:44,100
for, put out,

5809
02:42:44,100 --> 02:42:47,100
to bid and administer. And

5810
02:42:47,100 --> 02:42:48,100
that's why the carryovers are

5811
02:42:48,100 --> 02:42:49,100
generally

5812
02:42:49,100 --> 02:42:51,100
in my shop and public works,

5813
02:42:51,100 --> 02:42:53,401
because that's where the

5814
02:42:54,100 --> 02:42:56,100
capital workload Exists.

5815
02:42:57,100 --> 02:42:59,100
>> But this isn't 20 million.

5816
02:42:59,100 --> 02:43:00,100
This is really. It just keeps,

5817
02:43:00,100 --> 02:43:02,100
keeps going

5818
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:03,100
like you're adding on.

5819
02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:04,100
>> Yeah. I would suspect that

5820
02:43:04,100 --> 02:43:05,100
we will always have carry

5821
02:43:05,100 --> 02:43:07,100
forwards and it's going

5822
02:43:07,100 --> 02:43:09,100
to be a result of projects

5823
02:43:09,100 --> 02:43:10,100
getting established and started

5824
02:43:10,100 --> 02:43:12,100
within one fiscal year.

5825
02:43:12,100 --> 02:43:14,100
But not all of the expenditures

5826
02:43:14,100 --> 02:43:15,100
will actually occur

5827
02:43:15,100 --> 02:43:17,100
in that year. They will occur

5828
02:43:17,100 --> 02:43:18,100
in subsequent years.

5829
02:43:18,100 --> 02:43:19,100
>> Yeah. This is the most

5830
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:20,100
traditional carryover that

5831
02:43:20,100 --> 02:43:21,100
everybody's aware of and

5832
02:43:21,100 --> 02:43:22,100
understands how it works,

5833
02:43:22,100 --> 02:43:23,100
I would say. But I just wanted

5834
02:43:23,100 --> 02:43:25,401
to clarify that these

5835
02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:27,100
carryovers are accumulating.

5836
02:43:27,100 --> 02:43:28,100
So when you want more engineers

5837
02:43:28,100 --> 02:43:31,100
is because you want this to be

5838
02:43:31,100 --> 02:43:32,100
finished.

5839
02:43:32,100 --> 02:43:33,100
>> I'm assuming that's a great

5840
02:43:33,100 --> 02:43:35,100
point which I can touch

5841
02:43:35,100 --> 02:43:36,100
on here in a little bit.

5842
02:43:36,100 --> 02:43:37,100
>> That's where I was leading.

5843
02:43:37,100 --> 02:43:38,100
I figured you would catch on.

5844
02:43:38,100 --> 02:43:39,100
But okay.

5845
02:43:39,100 --> 02:43:41,100
>> Sometimes I can be slow.

5846
02:43:41,100 --> 02:43:42,100
Yeah, yeah, but so to finish

5847
02:43:42,100 --> 02:43:44,100
off on that point.

5848
02:43:44,100 --> 02:43:45,100
>> So you'll see there's just

5849
02:43:45,100 --> 02:43:47,100
one point that I think also is

5850
02:43:47,100 --> 02:43:49,100
relevant to paving projects and

5851
02:43:49,100 --> 02:43:50,100
that's paving projects are

5852
02:43:50,100 --> 02:43:52,100
routinely bid later

5853
02:43:53,100 --> 02:43:55,100
in the season because you want

5854
02:43:55,100 --> 02:43:56,100
to pave in the summertime when

5855
02:43:56,100 --> 02:43:58,100
the temperatures are hot. So

5856
02:43:58,100 --> 02:44:00,100
you see this more with paving

5857
02:44:00,100 --> 02:44:01,100
projects than you might with a

5858
02:44:01,100 --> 02:44:03,100
water project that can be done

5859
02:44:03,100 --> 02:44:04,100
in the shoulder season.

5860
02:44:04,100 --> 02:44:06,100
>> So. Yeah, thank you. Good

5861
02:44:06,100 --> 02:44:07,100
clarification. Yep. So the last

5862
02:44:07,100 --> 02:44:10,100
part I was going to touch on

5863
02:44:10,100 --> 02:44:12,100
on this slide. So there's four

5864
02:44:12,100 --> 02:44:13,100
numbers you can see

5865
02:44:13,100 --> 02:44:14,100
on the bottom there. So I

5866
02:44:14,100 --> 02:44:15,100
worked with Director Robinette

5867
02:44:15,100 --> 02:44:16,100
and his team

5868
02:44:16,100 --> 02:44:17,100
to get an actual balance of the

5869
02:44:17,100 --> 02:44:20,100
special gas tax fund and local

5870
02:44:20,100 --> 02:44:22,100
transportation TDA fund fund

5871
02:44:22,100 --> 02:44:24,100
balance. I'm viewing this as

5872
02:44:24,100 --> 02:44:27,100
the, the checking account that

5873
02:44:27,100 --> 02:44:29,100
holds the revenue as it comes

5874
02:44:29,100 --> 02:44:30,100
in from our various revenue

5875
02:44:30,100 --> 02:44:32,100
sources. Right now as of June

5876
02:44:32,100 --> 02:44:34,100
30, there was $20.2 million

5877
02:44:35,100 --> 02:44:38,100
in there. We anticipate working

5878
02:44:39,100 --> 02:44:41,100
with finance to transfer just

5879
02:44:41,100 --> 02:44:43,100
under 8 million or 7.9 million

5880
02:44:43,100 --> 02:44:45,100
from that account

5881
02:44:46,100 --> 02:44:47,100
into the general fund to cover

5882
02:44:47,100 --> 02:44:49,100
expenses that have occurred

5883
02:44:49,100 --> 02:44:50,100
in the 24, 25 fiscal year.

5884
02:44:50,100 --> 02:44:53,100
Fiscal year. So that will

5885
02:44:53,100 --> 02:44:55,100
reduce our, our balance in our

5886
02:44:55,100 --> 02:44:56,100
revenue checking account if you

5887
02:44:56,100 --> 02:44:58,100
will, from 20 million down to

5888
02:44:58,100 --> 02:45:01,601
about 12. And then we have that

5889
02:45:02,100 --> 02:45:04,100
carry forward amount

5890
02:45:04,100 --> 02:45:06,100
of approximately $10 million

5891
02:45:07,100 --> 02:45:10,100
that will also is earmarked

5892
02:45:10,100 --> 02:45:11,100
in that balance of 12, if you

5893
02:45:11,100 --> 02:45:13,100
will, because we know those

5894
02:45:13,100 --> 02:45:14,100
expenditures are going

5895
02:45:14,100 --> 02:45:15,100
to occur. So when we take

5896
02:45:15,100 --> 02:45:17,100
out the 8 in the 10

5897
02:45:17,100 --> 02:45:19,100
from our balance,

5898
02:45:19,100 --> 02:45:21,100
we're truly left with just

5899
02:45:21,100 --> 02:45:22,100
about 2.2 million. What I'm

5900
02:45:22,100 --> 02:45:24,100
going to call uncommitted un

5901
02:45:24,100 --> 02:45:26,100
earmarked streets revenue.

5902
02:45:26,100 --> 02:45:29,100
That is money that I could use

5903
02:45:29,100 --> 02:45:31,100
to start a new project or add

5904
02:45:31,100 --> 02:45:33,100
on to a contract or whatever.

5905
02:45:33,100 --> 02:45:36,100
But that is truly how much

5906
02:45:36,100 --> 02:45:38,100
funding? Approximately,

5907
02:45:39,100 --> 02:45:41,100
without getting to the end

5908
02:45:41,100 --> 02:45:43,100
of or finalizing the carryovers

5909
02:45:43,100 --> 02:45:45,100
from 2425, there's roughly

5910
02:45:45,100 --> 02:45:46,100
$2.2 million uncommitted

5911
02:45:46,100 --> 02:45:47,100
in our checking account,

5912
02:45:47,100 --> 02:45:50,601
if you will, that holds our

5913
02:45:52,100 --> 02:45:54,100
streets revenue.

5914
02:45:54,100 --> 02:45:57,100
>> And then when do you get the

5915
02:45:57,100 --> 02:45:58,100
next.

5916
02:45:58,100 --> 02:46:01,100
>> They come in in various

5917
02:46:01,100 --> 02:46:02,100
waves. And I left my piece

5918
02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:03,100
of paper on my desk that

5919
02:46:03,100 --> 02:46:04,100
describes when those various

5920
02:46:04,100 --> 02:46:05,100
revenue sources come in

5921
02:46:05,100 --> 02:46:06,100
through the year.

5922
02:46:06,100 --> 02:46:07,100
But they do come in

5923
02:46:07,100 --> 02:46:09,100
at different times. And keep

5924
02:46:09,100 --> 02:46:10,100
in mind, one of them, the rstp,

5925
02:46:10,100 --> 02:46:11,100
is a reimbursable one. Right.

5926
02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:12,100
So we don't get all

5927
02:46:12,100 --> 02:46:14,100
of that money. We have to spend

5928
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:15,100
it first and then we can get

5929
02:46:15,100 --> 02:46:16,100
reimbursed up

5930
02:46:16,100 --> 02:46:17,100
to the maximum amount.

5931
02:46:17,100 --> 02:46:19,100
>> But we're starting

5932
02:46:19,100 --> 02:46:20,100
off the year with about 2.2.

5933
02:46:20,100 --> 02:46:22,100
We anticipate to get another

5934
02:46:22,100 --> 02:46:23,100
10 from the gas tax.

5935
02:46:23,100 --> 02:46:24,100
>> We should get

5936
02:46:24,100 --> 02:46:25,100
about another 12.375 oh total.

5937
02:46:25,100 --> 02:46:26,100
>> So we're going to be at

5938
02:46:26,100 --> 02:46:27,100
about 14 and a half

5939
02:46:27,100 --> 02:46:28,100
for the year.

5940
02:46:28,100 --> 02:46:29,100
>> Including what we're going

5941
02:46:29,100 --> 02:46:31,100
to end this year with. Yes.

5942
02:46:31,100 --> 02:46:32,100
>> Okay.

5943
02:46:32,100 --> 02:46:33,100
>> So generally we should see

5944
02:46:33,100 --> 02:46:35,401
the streets department putting

5945
02:46:36,100 --> 02:46:38,401
out about $12 million worth

5946
02:46:39,100 --> 02:46:41,100
of effort combined between O

5947
02:46:41,100 --> 02:46:43,100
and M or our true blue streets

5948
02:46:43,100 --> 02:46:45,100
maintenance, our capital

5949
02:46:46,100 --> 02:46:48,100
projects and then our personnel

5950
02:46:48,100 --> 02:46:49,100
costs. Okay.

5951
02:46:49,100 --> 02:46:51,100
>> No, I appreciate that

5952
02:46:51,100 --> 02:46:52,100
comment. I've heard that

5953
02:46:52,100 --> 02:46:53,100
fallacy in the public where

5954
02:46:53,100 --> 02:46:54,100
people think that we're sitting

5955
02:46:54,100 --> 02:46:55,100
on millions and millions and

5956
02:46:55,100 --> 02:46:56,100
millions of dollars in street

5957
02:46:56,100 --> 02:46:58,100
money and we're just choosing

5958
02:46:58,100 --> 02:46:59,100
not to spend it. I mean,

5959
02:46:59,100 --> 02:47:00,100
we hear stuff like that.

5960
02:47:00,100 --> 02:47:01,100
That's not true, correct?

5961
02:47:01,100 --> 02:47:03,100
>> Yeah, we do work pretty hard

5962
02:47:03,100 --> 02:47:04,100
to get every dollar we possibly

5963
02:47:04,100 --> 02:47:05,100
can out there. And I do feel

5964
02:47:05,100 --> 02:47:07,100
like I should point

5965
02:47:07,100 --> 02:47:09,100
out when we look

5966
02:47:09,100 --> 02:47:10,100
at that uncommitted $2.2

5967
02:47:10,100 --> 02:47:11,100
million as a percentage

5968
02:47:11,100 --> 02:47:13,100
of our average revenue,

5969
02:47:13,100 --> 02:47:14,100
so I'm just going to call it

5970
02:47:14,100 --> 02:47:16,100
12 and a half. We're sitting

5971
02:47:16,100 --> 02:47:19,601
at around 18%. And I know that

5972
02:47:20,100 --> 02:47:21,100
that's higher than the general

5973
02:47:21,100 --> 02:47:23,100
Fund Council policy, but I'd

5974
02:47:23,100 --> 02:47:24,100
like to remind this body that

5975
02:47:24,100 --> 02:47:25,100
the type

5976
02:47:25,100 --> 02:47:27,100
of efforts that we're doing

5977
02:47:27,100 --> 02:47:29,100
in CAP

5978
02:47:29,100 --> 02:47:30,100
in public works and these types

5979
02:47:30,100 --> 02:47:32,100
of projects, I really have no

5980
02:47:32,100 --> 02:47:34,100
idea what bids are to come in

5981
02:47:34,100 --> 02:47:36,100
at for our projects.

5982
02:47:36,100 --> 02:47:38,100
Oftentimes our projects

5983
02:47:38,100 --> 02:47:39,100
potentially run

5984
02:47:39,100 --> 02:47:41,100
into issues and we have claims

5985
02:47:41,100 --> 02:47:43,100
with our contractors. And so I

5986
02:47:43,100 --> 02:47:44,100
would recommend that we do run

5987
02:47:44,100 --> 02:47:46,100
with a little bit

5988
02:47:46,100 --> 02:47:49,100
of a higher than 10% reserve

5989
02:47:49,100 --> 02:47:50,100
for those reasons

5990
02:47:50,100 --> 02:47:52,100
in combination of if we have an

5991
02:47:52,100 --> 02:47:54,100
emergency event,

5992
02:47:54,100 --> 02:47:56,100
we likely having some cash

5993
02:47:56,100 --> 02:47:58,100
on hand is a good thing. So I

5994
02:47:58,100 --> 02:47:59,100
would think that running

5995
02:47:59,100 --> 02:48:00,100
in that 15

5996
02:48:00,100 --> 02:48:01,100
to 20% range makes a whole lot

5997
02:48:01,100 --> 02:48:03,100
of sense for the type of work

5998
02:48:03,100 --> 02:48:04,100
that the streets are department

5999
02:48:04,100 --> 02:48:05,100
performs as well as the assets

6000
02:48:05,100 --> 02:48:07,401
that they're responsible for.

6001
02:48:08,100 --> 02:48:09,100
Okay, so I'm going

6002
02:48:09,100 --> 02:48:10,100
to move on, but again,

6003
02:48:10,100 --> 02:48:11,100
I'm happy to go back

6004
02:48:11,100 --> 02:48:12,100
to any questions that we have.

6005
02:48:12,100 --> 02:48:13,100
So here I'm going

6006
02:48:13,100 --> 02:48:14,100
to touch on, as I mentioned

6007
02:48:14,100 --> 02:48:16,100
earlier, kind of one

6008
02:48:16,100 --> 02:48:18,100
of the things that keeps me up

6009
02:48:18,100 --> 02:48:21,100
at night and this is the

6010
02:48:21,100 --> 02:48:22,100
condition of our pavement. So

6011
02:48:22,100 --> 02:48:23,100
first I'm going to touch

6012
02:48:23,100 --> 02:48:25,100
on pavement condition. And I

6013
02:48:25,100 --> 02:48:26,100
apologize, I'm sure the this

6014
02:48:26,100 --> 02:48:27,100
body has heard this multiple

6015
02:48:27,100 --> 02:48:28,100
times from my predecessors as

6016
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:29,100
well as me. But Pavement

6017
02:48:29,100 --> 02:48:30,100
condition index is a numerical

6018
02:48:30,100 --> 02:48:31,100
rating from 0 to 100 that

6019
02:48:31,100 --> 02:48:32,100
generally just represents the

6020
02:48:32,100 --> 02:48:34,100
health of our paved surface.

6021
02:48:34,100 --> 02:48:35,100
It's comprised of a number

6022
02:48:35,100 --> 02:48:38,100
of things, including the type

6023
02:48:38,100 --> 02:48:39,100
of pavement distress. So that

6024
02:48:39,100 --> 02:48:41,100
could either be cracking. Are

6025
02:48:41,100 --> 02:48:42,100
we talking about fatigue?

6026
02:48:42,100 --> 02:48:44,100
Thermal, longitudinal,

6027
02:48:44,100 --> 02:48:46,100
transverse,

6028
02:48:47,100 --> 02:48:48,100
how much rugging is

6029
02:48:48,100 --> 02:48:49,100
out there? Potholes, raveling.

6030
02:48:49,100 --> 02:48:51,100
It also takes

6031
02:48:51,100 --> 02:48:52,100
into consideration the severity

6032
02:48:52,100 --> 02:48:53,100
of the pavement stress. How bad

6033
02:48:53,100 --> 02:48:54,100
is it? It also takes

6034
02:48:54,100 --> 02:48:56,100
into consideration the extent,

6035
02:48:56,100 --> 02:48:57,100
how much of it is there,

6036
02:48:57,100 --> 02:48:59,100
as well as the traffic loading,

6037
02:48:59,100 --> 02:49:00,100
because obviously routes that

6038
02:49:00,100 --> 02:49:02,100
are heavy

6039
02:49:02,100 --> 02:49:04,100
with trucks or buses are going

6040
02:49:04,100 --> 02:49:06,100
to receive a higher traffic

6041
02:49:06,100 --> 02:49:07,100
loading than a street that does

6042
02:49:07,100 --> 02:49:08,100
not have that. Age and climate

6043
02:49:08,100 --> 02:49:10,100
and weather are other factors

6044
02:49:10,100 --> 02:49:13,100
that go into that. So

6045
02:49:13,100 --> 02:49:15,100
in general,

6046
02:49:15,100 --> 02:49:16,100
PCI is a good indicator

6047
02:49:16,100 --> 02:49:17,100
of the health

6048
02:49:17,100 --> 02:49:19,100
of your roadway system. So what

6049
02:49:19,100 --> 02:49:20,100
I'm going

6050
02:49:20,100 --> 02:49:22,100
to do here is I'm going

6051
02:49:22,100 --> 02:49:24,100
to run jump through half a

6052
02:49:24,100 --> 02:49:26,100
dozen or so slides that are

6053
02:49:26,100 --> 02:49:27,100
meant to give visual examples

6054
02:49:27,100 --> 02:49:30,100
to the body, the council as a

6055
02:49:30,100 --> 02:49:33,601
body, as well as the members

6056
02:49:35,100 --> 02:49:36,100
of the public, because I think

6057
02:49:36,100 --> 02:49:37,100
this is very tangible

6058
02:49:37,100 --> 02:49:38,100
to folks. So I'm going

6059
02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:40,100
to touch on routes that have

6060
02:49:40,100 --> 02:49:41,100
what I would consider to be

6061
02:49:41,100 --> 02:49:43,100
very good or good conditions,

6062
02:49:43,100 --> 02:49:44,100
as well as mediocre and as well

6063
02:49:44,100 --> 02:49:47,100
as poor. And I suspect that

6064
02:49:47,100 --> 02:49:49,100
this will resonate

6065
02:49:49,100 --> 02:49:50,100
with pretty much everybody

6066
02:49:50,100 --> 02:49:51,100
in the room. So here we're

6067
02:49:51,100 --> 02:49:53,100
looking at Bocelli, excuse me.

6068
02:49:53,100 --> 02:49:56,100
This is Bocelli Lane looking

6069
02:49:56,100 --> 02:49:57,100
north. This is an arterial,

6070
02:49:57,100 --> 02:49:58,100
so a major route

6071
02:49:58,100 --> 02:50:00,100
within the city,

6072
02:50:00,100 --> 02:50:01,100
higher traffic volumes. And we

6073
02:50:01,100 --> 02:50:02,100
did significant work along

6074
02:50:02,100 --> 02:50:04,100
Bocelli a few years ago and no

6075
02:50:04,100 --> 02:50:05,100
surprise,

6076
02:50:05,100 --> 02:50:07,100
right now we have a PCI score

6077
02:50:07,100 --> 02:50:10,100
of 93, which is very good. And

6078
02:50:10,100 --> 02:50:11,100
I think that most people that

6079
02:50:11,100 --> 02:50:14,100
drive along that route would

6080
02:50:14,100 --> 02:50:15,100
would agree that the pavement

6081
02:50:15,100 --> 02:50:16,100
rides very smooth and.

6082
02:50:16,100 --> 02:50:17,100
>> It'S

6083
02:50:17,100 --> 02:50:18,100
in a good drivable about.

6084
02:50:18,100 --> 02:50:20,100
>> Here's an example

6085
02:50:20,100 --> 02:50:22,100
of a residential street. This

6086
02:50:22,100 --> 02:50:24,100
is Garden Avenue. So this is

6087
02:50:24,100 --> 02:50:25,100
not too far from where we're

6088
02:50:25,100 --> 02:50:26,100
sitting right now. This is a

6089
02:50:26,100 --> 02:50:27,100
residential street. And we're

6090
02:50:27,100 --> 02:50:28,100
looking north here again,

6091
02:50:28,100 --> 02:50:31,601
and we're sitting at an 86 PCI.

6092
02:50:32,100 --> 02:50:35,100
Again, this is a Very good

6093
02:50:35,100 --> 02:50:36,100
score. Pavement rides nice.

6094
02:50:36,100 --> 02:50:38,100
Very few potholes are cracking

6095
02:50:38,100 --> 02:50:41,601
here. We have Westside Road. I

6096
02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:44,100
believe we're looking north

6097
02:50:44,100 --> 02:50:46,401
here. Again, a residential

6098
02:50:47,100 --> 02:50:48,100
street, or, excuse me,

6099
02:50:48,100 --> 02:50:50,100
a collector. And we're sitting

6100
02:50:50,100 --> 02:50:53,100
at a PCI of 75. I would like

6101
02:50:53,100 --> 02:50:55,100
to point out to Council that if

6102
02:50:55,100 --> 02:50:56,100
you do look closely,

6103
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:57,100
you're going

6104
02:50:57,100 --> 02:50:58,100
to start noticing a few cracks,

6105
02:50:58,100 --> 02:50:59,100
both horizontally, which would

6106
02:50:59,100 --> 02:51:00,100
be transverse as well as

6107
02:51:00,100 --> 02:51:02,100
parallel

6108
02:51:02,100 --> 02:51:03,100
with the traveled way, which

6109
02:51:03,100 --> 02:51:05,100
would be our longitudinal

6110
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:07,100
cracks. So you're starting

6111
02:51:07,100 --> 02:51:08,100
to see some visual signs

6112
02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:11,100
of distress there. Here we have

6113
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:13,100
Buenaventura Boulevard. This is

6114
02:51:13,100 --> 02:51:14,100
looking south as you approach

6115
02:51:14,100 --> 02:51:16,100
Placer Street. Again, this is

6116
02:51:16,100 --> 02:51:18,100
an arterial, a major

6117
02:51:18,100 --> 02:51:19,100
thoroughfare, and you start

6118
02:51:19,100 --> 02:51:20,100
to see a lot

6119
02:51:20,100 --> 02:51:23,100
of visual stress here. And

6120
02:51:23,100 --> 02:51:24,100
based on our Data, this is a

6121
02:51:24,100 --> 02:51:25,100
45 in the PCI world. And it's

6122
02:51:25,100 --> 02:51:26,100
teetering right there on fair

6123
02:51:26,100 --> 02:51:28,100
to poor. Here we have Churn

6124
02:51:28,100 --> 02:51:29,100
Creek Road. Again, we're

6125
02:51:29,100 --> 02:51:32,601
looking north. Churn Creek is a

6126
02:51:39,100 --> 02:51:42,100
very busy route. It's an

6127
02:51:42,100 --> 02:51:45,100
arterial. And you can see a lot

6128
02:51:45,100 --> 02:51:46,100
of the cracked ceiling we have

6129
02:51:46,100 --> 02:51:48,100
there and the patches and

6130
02:51:48,100 --> 02:51:49,100
everything else. And you can

6131
02:51:49,100 --> 02:51:50,100
even see a transition between

6132
02:51:50,100 --> 02:51:52,100
pavement that must have been

6133
02:51:52,100 --> 02:51:53,100
done at different times.

6134
02:51:53,100 --> 02:51:55,100
But we're sitting here at a

6135
02:51:55,100 --> 02:51:56,100
43. So again, we're kind

6136
02:51:56,100 --> 02:51:57,100
of dropping down

6137
02:51:57,100 --> 02:51:58,100
through those conditions. And

6138
02:51:58,100 --> 02:52:00,100
you can see a visual

6139
02:52:00,100 --> 02:52:02,100
difference. Here we have

6140
02:52:02,100 --> 02:52:04,100
Brandstetter. This is a

6141
02:52:04,100 --> 02:52:05,100
collector,

6142
02:52:05,100 --> 02:52:06,100
so not as busy as an arterial,

6143
02:52:06,100 --> 02:52:09,100
but a little bit more traffic

6144
02:52:09,100 --> 02:52:11,100
than a residential or a local

6145
02:52:11,100 --> 02:52:13,100
road. Pretty beat up. You can

6146
02:52:13,100 --> 02:52:14,100
see a lot of missing chunks

6147
02:52:14,100 --> 02:52:15,100
of asphalt. You can see a lot

6148
02:52:15,100 --> 02:52:16,100
of cracking. You can see that

6149
02:52:16,100 --> 02:52:17,100
there's a need for us to get

6150
02:52:17,100 --> 02:52:19,100
out there and crack seal.

6151
02:52:19,100 --> 02:52:20,100
But we're sitting at a PCI of

6152
02:52:20,100 --> 02:52:21,100
33, and in my opinion, a road

6153
02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:23,100
in this condition is teetering

6154
02:52:23,100 --> 02:52:25,100
on not even be worth the value

6155
02:52:25,100 --> 02:52:27,100
of going out and crack,

6156
02:52:27,100 --> 02:52:29,100
sealing or maintaining,

6157
02:52:30,100 --> 02:52:32,100
because the structural

6158
02:52:32,100 --> 02:52:35,100
condition of it is so poor that

6159
02:52:35,100 --> 02:52:37,100
it's not a great use of the

6160
02:52:37,100 --> 02:52:39,100
limited resources that we have.

6161
02:52:39,100 --> 02:52:40,100
So this is a good example of

6162
02:52:40,100 --> 02:52:41,100
one that's probably gone too

6163
02:52:41,100 --> 02:52:43,100
long without maintenance. And I

6164
02:52:43,100 --> 02:52:45,100
believe this is my last one.

6165
02:52:45,100 --> 02:52:48,601
Give me one second. This is

6166
02:52:49,100 --> 02:52:51,401
East Bonnevieu Road looking

6167
02:52:55,100 --> 02:52:57,100
south. Another collector PCI

6168
02:52:57,100 --> 02:52:59,100
of 31. And I think visually all

6169
02:52:59,100 --> 02:53:02,100
of you can understand why. So

6170
02:53:02,100 --> 02:53:04,100
again,

6171
02:53:04,100 --> 02:53:05,100
another road that's well beyond

6172
02:53:05,100 --> 02:53:06,100
its useful time and is

6173
02:53:06,100 --> 02:53:07,100
teetering on needing a complete

6174
02:53:07,100 --> 02:53:09,100
reconstruction, probably

6175
02:53:10,100 --> 02:53:12,100
beyond maintenance. And then I

6176
02:53:12,100 --> 02:53:15,601
have here a picture of Bute

6177
02:53:16,100 --> 02:53:19,100
street, the worst of the slides

6178
02:53:19,100 --> 02:53:21,100
that I'm showing you this

6179
02:53:21,100 --> 02:53:22,100
evening. Another residential

6180
02:53:22,100 --> 02:53:25,100
street at a PCI of 20. So

6181
02:53:25,100 --> 02:53:27,100
terrible condition, definitely

6182
02:53:27,100 --> 02:53:28,100
needs a full reconstruction.

6183
02:53:28,100 --> 02:53:29,100
If not

6184
02:53:29,100 --> 02:53:30,100
at least a significant rehab.

6185
02:53:30,100 --> 02:53:32,100
Now, I should remind Council

6186
02:53:32,100 --> 02:53:34,100
this information that I'm

6187
02:53:34,100 --> 02:53:36,100
providing here, specifically

6188
02:53:36,100 --> 02:53:38,100
on the pci,

6189
02:53:38,100 --> 02:53:39,100
as well as these road

6190
02:53:39,100 --> 02:53:40,100
conditions, is essentially the

6191
02:53:40,100 --> 02:53:42,401
same information that City

6192
02:53:43,100 --> 02:53:44,100
Manager Tippen provided back

6193
02:53:44,100 --> 02:53:47,100
in April of last year. I want

6194
02:53:47,100 --> 02:53:49,100
to say it was the 28th. 24th.

6195
02:53:49,100 --> 02:53:52,100
Thank you. Regarding the unmet

6196
02:53:52,100 --> 02:53:54,100
needs throughout the city as we

6197
02:53:54,100 --> 02:53:56,100
kind of kicked

6198
02:53:56,100 --> 02:53:57,100
off the budget workshops. So

6199
02:53:57,100 --> 02:53:59,100
this. This is not new

6200
02:53:59,100 --> 02:54:01,100
information, although they

6201
02:54:01,100 --> 02:54:02,100
might be new pictures. So what

6202
02:54:02,100 --> 02:54:05,100
I have here is a real fancy

6203
02:54:05,100 --> 02:54:07,100
chart, and I'm going

6204
02:54:07,100 --> 02:54:10,100
to walk the four of you

6205
02:54:10,100 --> 02:54:12,100
through what I'm showing here.

6206
02:54:12,100 --> 02:54:14,100
So what I have

6207
02:54:14,100 --> 02:54:15,100
on the vertical access, again,

6208
02:54:15,100 --> 02:54:16,100
is the PCI from 0 to 100. And

6209
02:54:16,100 --> 02:54:19,100
then what I have down there on

6210
02:54:19,100 --> 02:54:20,100
the horizontal axis are years.

6211
02:54:20,100 --> 02:54:22,100
And I just went every five

6212
02:54:22,100 --> 02:54:23,100
years,

6213
02:54:23,100 --> 02:54:26,100
because if I showed every year,

6214
02:54:26,100 --> 02:54:27,100
there was just too many numbers

6215
02:54:27,100 --> 02:54:28,100
down there and it got busy. So

6216
02:54:28,100 --> 02:54:30,100
what I'm showing is, first

6217
02:54:30,100 --> 02:54:34,100
you'll see a solid red line and

6218
02:54:34,100 --> 02:54:36,100
you'll see that there's about

6219
02:54:36,100 --> 02:54:38,100
10 years worth of data there.

6220
02:54:38,100 --> 02:54:39,100
That is our historical,

6221
02:54:39,100 --> 02:54:40,100
actual PCI

6222
02:54:40,100 --> 02:54:43,100
for our entire roadway network,

6223
02:54:43,100 --> 02:54:46,100
and that's based on that. We

6224
02:54:46,100 --> 02:54:47,100
drive every mile

6225
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:48,100
of every street each year. We

6226
02:54:48,100 --> 02:54:50,100
collect that, and we collect

6227
02:54:50,100 --> 02:54:52,100
visual information

6228
02:54:52,100 --> 02:54:54,100
through cameras and videos,

6229
02:54:54,100 --> 02:54:55,100
and we upload it in a software

6230
02:54:55,100 --> 02:54:57,100
that we have called roadai,

6231
02:54:57,100 --> 02:54:59,100
and then we put that into

6232
02:54:59,100 --> 02:55:01,100
additional software that we

6233
02:55:01,100 --> 02:55:03,100
have that is called Street

6234
02:55:03,100 --> 02:55:04,100
Saver. So those are actual

6235
02:55:04,100 --> 02:55:05,100
historical network averages

6236
02:55:05,100 --> 02:55:07,100
of our arterials, our

6237
02:55:07,100 --> 02:55:09,401
collectors and our local

6238
02:55:10,100 --> 02:55:12,401
roadways. So that's actual

6239
02:55:13,100 --> 02:55:14,100
data. And you can see that

6240
02:55:14,100 --> 02:55:16,100
we're really kind of hovering

6241
02:55:16,100 --> 02:55:17,100
in the high 40s,

6242
02:55:17,100 --> 02:55:19,100
which I would imagine resonates

6243
02:55:19,100 --> 02:55:20,100
to most individuals that

6244
02:55:20,100 --> 02:55:21,100
traverse reading. Now, you're

6245
02:55:21,100 --> 02:55:23,100
going to see two dashed lines.

6246
02:55:23,100 --> 02:55:25,100
To the right of that,

6247
02:55:25,100 --> 02:55:26,100
you're going

6248
02:55:26,100 --> 02:55:29,100
to see a dashed red line. What

6249
02:55:29,100 --> 02:55:30,100
that represents is if we

6250
02:55:30,100 --> 02:55:32,100
continued on the capital

6251
02:55:32,100 --> 02:55:34,100
spending trajectory that we are

6252
02:55:34,100 --> 02:55:36,100
on right now,

6253
02:55:37,100 --> 02:55:38,100
which is approximately $5

6254
02:55:38,100 --> 02:55:40,100
million

6255
02:55:41,100 --> 02:55:43,100
of capital projects per year.

6256
02:55:43,100 --> 02:55:44,100
And what you're going

6257
02:55:44,100 --> 02:55:46,100
to see is our PCI is going

6258
02:55:46,100 --> 02:55:48,100
to continue to deteriorate.

6259
02:55:48,100 --> 02:55:50,100
And what's happening is we're

6260
02:55:50,100 --> 02:55:51,100
getting very close,

6261
02:55:51,100 --> 02:55:53,100
in my opinion, to falling off

6262
02:55:53,100 --> 02:55:54,100
what I would call the

6263
02:55:54,100 --> 02:55:56,100
rehabilitation cliff

6264
02:55:56,100 --> 02:55:58,100
to where essentially too much

6265
02:55:58,100 --> 02:55:59,100
of our pavement is

6266
02:55:59,100 --> 02:56:00,100
beyond maintenance and it's.

6267
02:56:00,100 --> 02:56:02,100
It can no longer be rehabbed.

6268
02:56:02,100 --> 02:56:04,100
It needs

6269
02:56:04,100 --> 02:56:06,100
to be completely reconstructed.

6270
02:56:06,100 --> 02:56:08,100
So obviously that's a concern

6271
02:56:08,100 --> 02:56:10,100
of mine as your city engineer.

6272
02:56:10,100 --> 02:56:12,100
Now, you're going

6273
02:56:12,100 --> 02:56:14,100
to see a blue line

6274
02:56:14,100 --> 02:56:15,100
above that. That is a line that

6275
02:56:15,100 --> 02:56:16,100
I've developed with my team,

6276
02:56:16,100 --> 02:56:17,100
again using the current

6277
02:56:17,100 --> 02:56:18,100
conditions, the Road AI and the

6278
02:56:18,100 --> 02:56:20,100
Street Saver software as well

6279
02:56:20,100 --> 02:56:22,100
as working with pavement

6280
02:56:22,100 --> 02:56:24,100
officials that I have

6281
02:56:24,100 --> 02:56:26,100
relationships with

6282
02:56:26,100 --> 02:56:28,100
on what the condition of our

6283
02:56:28,100 --> 02:56:30,100
pavement would be if we were to

6284
02:56:30,100 --> 02:56:32,100
spend an additional eight and a

6285
02:56:32,100 --> 02:56:35,100
half to $10 million per year

6286
02:56:35,100 --> 02:56:37,100
on pavement. Now, that number

6287
02:56:37,100 --> 02:56:38,100
wasn't grabbed out

6288
02:56:38,100 --> 02:56:39,100
of thin air. It was really back

6289
02:56:39,100 --> 02:56:41,100
calculated in order

6290
02:56:41,100 --> 02:56:43,100
to get us up

6291
02:56:43,100 --> 02:56:44,100
to a PCI that you're going

6292
02:56:44,100 --> 02:56:45,100
to see is in the bottom end of

6293
02:56:45,100 --> 02:56:47,100
the good zone that I'm

6294
02:56:47,100 --> 02:56:49,100
indicating on the top. Top

6295
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:50,100
right in the green box. Now,

6296
02:56:50,100 --> 02:56:53,100
you may ask yourself, or you

6297
02:56:53,100 --> 02:56:54,100
may be asking yourself,

6298
02:56:54,100 --> 02:56:55,100
why does Michael not want

6299
02:56:55,100 --> 02:56:56,100
to go to the top

6300
02:56:56,100 --> 02:56:58,100
of the green zone? Why is he

6301
02:56:58,100 --> 02:56:59,100
recommending only the bottom?

6302
02:56:59,100 --> 02:57:00,100
That's a good question. I'm

6303
02:57:00,100 --> 02:57:01,100
recommending the bottom because

6304
02:57:01,100 --> 02:57:02,100
that's where the best value is.

6305
02:57:02,100 --> 02:57:03,100
We don't want to spend all of

6306
02:57:03,100 --> 02:57:05,100
our resources and get the

6307
02:57:05,100 --> 02:57:06,100
pavement into a condition where

6308
02:57:06,100 --> 02:57:08,100
essentially we're overspending

6309
02:57:08,100 --> 02:57:10,100
in pavement. We want to live

6310
02:57:10,100 --> 02:57:13,100
in an average roadway network

6311
02:57:13,100 --> 02:57:15,100
with a PCI of 75 to 80. What

6312
02:57:15,100 --> 02:57:18,100
that means is that means our

6313
02:57:18,100 --> 02:57:19,100
pavement is in a solid

6314
02:57:19,100 --> 02:57:21,100
structural condition and

6315
02:57:22,100 --> 02:57:23,100
in general good health. And

6316
02:57:23,100 --> 02:57:26,100
really what we're doing is

6317
02:57:27,100 --> 02:57:29,100
we're doing a lot

6318
02:57:29,100 --> 02:57:31,100
of preventative maintenance.

6319
02:57:31,100 --> 02:57:32,100
We're not doing very many

6320
02:57:32,100 --> 02:57:34,100
rehabs or recon

6321
02:57:34,100 --> 02:57:35,100
reconstructions, excuse me,

6322
02:57:35,100 --> 02:57:36,100
which we want to avoid as much

6323
02:57:36,100 --> 02:57:37,100
as possible because those are

6324
02:57:37,100 --> 02:57:39,100
the most intrusive projects to

6325
02:57:39,100 --> 02:57:40,100
our businesses and residents

6326
02:57:40,100 --> 02:57:42,100
and they're also the most

6327
02:57:42,100 --> 02:57:44,100
costly. Unfortunately,

6328
02:57:47,100 --> 02:57:48,100
in order to get up

6329
02:57:48,100 --> 02:57:50,100
to that PCI score of 75 to

6330
02:57:50,100 --> 02:57:52,100
80, there is a capital

6331
02:57:52,100 --> 02:57:54,401
investment required which would

6332
02:57:55,100 --> 02:57:56,100
consist of a number of

6333
02:57:56,100 --> 02:57:57,100
rehabilitations and

6334
02:57:57,100 --> 02:57:58,100
reconstructions for a period

6335
02:57:58,100 --> 02:57:59,100
of time. Once we get there,

6336
02:57:59,100 --> 02:58:01,100
then the type

6337
02:58:01,100 --> 02:58:04,100
of our project would pivot

6338
02:58:06,100 --> 02:58:07,100
from rehabs and reconstructions

6339
02:58:07,100 --> 02:58:09,100
to predominantly preventative

6340
02:58:10,100 --> 02:58:11,100
maintenance with select rehabs

6341
02:58:11,100 --> 02:58:12,100
once pavement ended,

6342
02:58:12,100 --> 02:58:14,100
reach the end

6343
02:58:14,100 --> 02:58:16,100
of its useful life. And that's

6344
02:58:16,100 --> 02:58:19,100
where we want to live because

6345
02:58:19,100 --> 02:58:20,100
that truly is the best value

6346
02:58:20,100 --> 02:58:21,100
when we're looking

6347
02:58:21,100 --> 02:58:22,100
at being wise with the

6348
02:58:22,100 --> 02:58:24,100
resources that we have. Now,

6349
02:58:24,100 --> 02:58:25,100
there's one other thing that I

6350
02:58:25,100 --> 02:58:27,100
would like to mention

6351
02:58:27,100 --> 02:58:28,100
to council here. So the red

6352
02:58:28,100 --> 02:58:29,100
line might my forecast if we

6353
02:58:29,100 --> 02:58:30,100
were to continue

6354
02:58:30,100 --> 02:58:31,100
on our trend. Again, that is a

6355
02:58:31,100 --> 02:58:33,100
average roadway network. So

6356
02:58:33,100 --> 02:58:34,100
what I'm saying there is that's

6357
02:58:34,100 --> 02:58:35,100
the average

6358
02:58:35,100 --> 02:58:36,100
between the condition

6359
02:58:36,100 --> 02:58:37,100
of our arterials, our

6360
02:58:37,100 --> 02:58:39,100
collectors,

6361
02:58:39,100 --> 02:58:41,100
as well as the local roadways,

6362
02:58:41,100 --> 02:58:43,100
which make up two thirds

6363
02:58:43,100 --> 02:58:45,100
of our roadway network. So

6364
02:58:45,100 --> 02:58:46,100
these are your residential

6365
02:58:46,100 --> 02:58:47,100
streets where people live and

6366
02:58:47,100 --> 02:58:49,100
their kids play out

6367
02:58:49,100 --> 02:58:50,100
in the streets and everything.

6368
02:58:50,100 --> 02:58:52,100
So that's two thirds

6369
02:58:52,100 --> 02:58:53,100
of our network. What I would be

6370
02:58:53,100 --> 02:58:54,100
forced to do if we continue on

6371
02:58:54,100 --> 02:58:55,000
the funding strategy or the

6372
02:58:55,000 --> 02:58:57,100
funding that we. The revenue

6373
02:58:57,100 --> 02:58:59,100
that we have is I would be

6374
02:58:59,100 --> 02:59:01,100
coming back to this body and

6375
02:59:01,100 --> 02:59:02,100
recommending that we no longer

6376
02:59:02,100 --> 02:59:03,100
spend. Spend resources on those

6377
02:59:03,100 --> 02:59:05,100
local streets because we need

6378
02:59:05,100 --> 02:59:07,100
to maintain our arterials and

6379
02:59:07,100 --> 02:59:09,100
local roadways first. So if I

6380
02:59:09,100 --> 02:59:10,100
was to make a chart like this

6381
02:59:10,100 --> 02:59:12,100
for your arterials and a

6382
02:59:12,100 --> 02:59:15,100
separate one for your local

6383
02:59:16,100 --> 02:59:18,100
roadways and a separate one

6384
02:59:18,100 --> 02:59:20,100
for the residential streets,

6385
02:59:20,100 --> 02:59:22,100
you would see drastic

6386
02:59:22,100 --> 02:59:23,100
differences between the

6387
02:59:23,100 --> 02:59:24,100
arterials and the collectors

6388
02:59:24,100 --> 02:59:26,100
and the subdivision streets.

6389
02:59:26,100 --> 02:59:28,100
And then as that problem

6390
02:59:28,100 --> 02:59:29,100
continued, we would see the

6391
02:59:29,100 --> 02:59:30,100
local roadways fall off. And

6392
02:59:30,100 --> 02:59:32,100
then most, if not all the money

6393
02:59:32,100 --> 02:59:33,100
would be spent

6394
02:59:33,100 --> 02:59:35,100
on the arterials.

6395
02:59:35,100 --> 02:59:36,100
>> And none

6396
02:59:36,100 --> 02:59:37,100
of this money includes paying

6397
02:59:37,100 --> 02:59:39,100
for sidewalks in residential

6398
02:59:39,100 --> 02:59:40,100
areas that don't have sidewalks

6399
02:59:40,100 --> 02:59:41,100
right now.

6400
02:59:41,100 --> 02:59:42,100
>> Or that was not. This was a

6401
02:59:42,100 --> 02:59:43,100
pavement focused

6402
02:59:43,100 --> 02:59:45,100
into your point. We do have a

6403
02:59:45,100 --> 02:59:46,100
dire need

6404
02:59:46,100 --> 02:59:48,100
with our sidewalks as well.

6405
02:59:48,100 --> 02:59:50,100
Absolutely. I know I've thrown

6406
02:59:50,100 --> 02:59:52,100
a lot at the council,

6407
02:59:52,100 --> 02:59:53,000
but I am available for any

6408
02:59:53,000 --> 02:59:54,100
questions that you all have.

6409
02:59:54,100 --> 02:59:56,100
>> I mean,

6410
02:59:56,100 --> 02:59:58,100
just the comments that we hear.

6411
02:59:58,100 --> 03:00:00,100
Everybody talks about Victor

6412
03:00:00,100 --> 03:00:02,100
Avenue and I,

6413
03:00:02,100 --> 03:00:04,100
I know the answer to this, but

6414
03:00:04,100 --> 03:00:06,100
the reasons why we're not

6415
03:00:06,100 --> 03:00:08,100
running and paving it right

6416
03:00:08,100 --> 03:00:10,100
now, knowing that I don't know,

6417
03:00:10,100 --> 03:00:12,100
I don't know the score of

6418
03:00:12,100 --> 03:00:13,100
Victor Avenue would be really

6419
03:00:13,100 --> 03:00:14,100
right now. But you can answer

6420
03:00:14,100 --> 03:00:16,100
this or confirm it,

6421
03:00:16,100 --> 03:00:17,100
but it's because we're planning

6422
03:00:17,100 --> 03:00:19,100
on paving that next year and

6423
03:00:19,100 --> 03:00:21,100
it'd be kind of silly

6424
03:00:21,100 --> 03:00:23,100
to spend money right now.

6425
03:00:23,100 --> 03:00:24,100
>> That is correct. We do try

6426
03:00:24,100 --> 03:00:25,100
and marry up our true blue

6427
03:00:25,100 --> 03:00:26,100
maintenance operations

6428
03:00:26,100 --> 03:00:27,100
with our capital. It would be

6429
03:00:27,100 --> 03:00:29,100
an unwise investment for us

6430
03:00:29,100 --> 03:00:31,100
to go spend money

6431
03:00:31,100 --> 03:00:32,100
in the maintenance world just

6432
03:00:32,100 --> 03:00:35,100
to rip it up the following year

6433
03:00:35,100 --> 03:00:36,100
with a contractor. So we do try

6434
03:00:36,100 --> 03:00:37,100
to strategize and organize to

6435
03:00:37,100 --> 03:00:38,100
make sure we align those

6436
03:00:38,100 --> 03:00:39,100
operations. And we are going

6437
03:00:39,100 --> 03:00:41,100
to be very happy to get the

6438
03:00:41,100 --> 03:00:42,100
Victor project out next year

6439
03:00:42,100 --> 03:00:44,401
and make those improvements.

6440
03:00:45,100 --> 03:00:46,100
Absolutely.

6441
03:00:46,100 --> 03:00:47,100
>> We also hear

6442
03:00:47,100 --> 03:00:48,100
from the community

6443
03:00:48,100 --> 03:00:49,100
about bike lanes. Nobody says

6444
03:00:49,100 --> 03:00:50,100
that all we're focused

6445
03:00:50,100 --> 03:00:51,100
on is just putting

6446
03:00:51,100 --> 03:00:52,100
in bike lanes. And if we could

6447
03:00:52,100 --> 03:00:53,100
just spend more money on paving

6448
03:00:53,100 --> 03:00:54,100
and not the bike lanes,

6449
03:00:54,100 --> 03:00:55,100
then we'd be way better off.

6450
03:00:55,100 --> 03:00:56,100
But you might be able

6451
03:00:56,100 --> 03:00:57,100
to give some color

6452
03:00:57,100 --> 03:00:58,000
to that comment.

6453
03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:00,000
>> Yeah. You know,

6454
03:01:00,100 --> 03:01:01,100
the city's been.

6455
03:01:01,100 --> 03:01:02,100
From my perspective, obviously,

6456
03:01:02,100 --> 03:01:04,100
I've been your public works

6457
03:01:04,100 --> 03:01:05,100
director or city engineer for

6458
03:01:05,100 --> 03:01:07,100
about two years now. But the

6459
03:01:07,100 --> 03:01:08,100
city really has been able

6460
03:01:08,100 --> 03:01:10,100
to hover in that PCI range

6461
03:01:10,100 --> 03:01:11,100
because they've been successful

6462
03:01:11,100 --> 03:01:12,100
leveraging funding

6463
03:01:12,100 --> 03:01:14,100
opportunities

6464
03:01:15,100 --> 03:01:17,100
through grants. A lot

6465
03:01:17,100 --> 03:01:18,100
of those grants do come

6466
03:01:18,100 --> 03:01:21,100
with requirements. And so the

6467
03:01:21,100 --> 03:01:23,100
public works department,

6468
03:01:23,100 --> 03:01:25,100
specifically the engineering

6469
03:01:25,100 --> 03:01:28,100
team and the traffic team

6470
03:01:28,100 --> 03:01:30,100
within the streets department

6471
03:01:30,100 --> 03:01:31,100
have done a great job

6472
03:01:31,100 --> 03:01:33,100
leveraging those grant

6473
03:01:33,100 --> 03:01:34,100
opportunities, but doing them

6474
03:01:34,100 --> 03:01:37,601
only where they make sense. We

6475
03:01:38,100 --> 03:01:39,100
do take a hard look

6476
03:01:39,100 --> 03:01:40,100
at when we're going to

6477
03:01:40,100 --> 03:01:42,100
implement traffic calming

6478
03:01:42,100 --> 03:01:43,100
measures along our roadways and

6479
03:01:43,100 --> 03:01:44,100
we try very hard

6480
03:01:44,100 --> 03:01:46,100
to maintain the level of

6481
03:01:46,100 --> 03:01:47,100
operation that our community

6482
03:01:47,100 --> 03:01:48,100
desires. Right. I could talk

6483
03:01:48,100 --> 03:01:49,100
to you guys and gals

6484
03:01:49,100 --> 03:01:50,100
about level

6485
03:01:50,100 --> 03:01:51,100
of service thresholds A, B, C,

6486
03:01:51,100 --> 03:01:52,100
D, but that's not going

6487
03:01:52,100 --> 03:01:53,100
to resonate very well. The best

6488
03:01:53,100 --> 03:01:54,100
I can explain

6489
03:01:54,100 --> 03:01:55,100
to you is if you go drive down

6490
03:01:55,100 --> 03:01:56,100
in San Francisco, you're going

6491
03:01:56,100 --> 03:01:58,100
to experience a different type

6492
03:01:58,100 --> 03:01:59,100
of driving that you're going

6493
03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:00,100
to experience in Reading. And

6494
03:02:00,100 --> 03:02:01,100
people in Reading want a little

6495
03:02:01,100 --> 03:02:02,100
bit more space

6496
03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:04,100
between their vehicles. They

6497
03:02:04,100 --> 03:02:05,100
don't want to have bumper

6498
03:02:05,100 --> 03:02:06,100
to bumper traffic. So we really

6499
03:02:06,100 --> 03:02:08,100
strive to maintain that level

6500
03:02:08,100 --> 03:02:09,100
of operations and safety

6501
03:02:09,100 --> 03:02:10,100
along our roadway network. So

6502
03:02:10,100 --> 03:02:13,601
we do not just blindly take,

6503
03:02:14,100 --> 03:02:16,100
you know, of potentially

6504
03:02:16,100 --> 03:02:17,100
available paid surface to put

6505
03:02:17,100 --> 03:02:18,100
in a bike lane. We really do

6506
03:02:18,100 --> 03:02:20,100
perform analyses, do a lot

6507
03:02:20,100 --> 03:02:21,100
of community outreach to make

6508
03:02:21,100 --> 03:02:23,100
sure that where we are going

6509
03:02:23,100 --> 03:02:25,100
to implement those. It makes

6510
03:02:25,100 --> 03:02:26,100
sense.

6511
03:02:26,100 --> 03:02:27,100
>> Yeah. Last comment or

6512
03:02:27,100 --> 03:02:28,100
question. But I'm

6513
03:02:28,100 --> 03:02:30,100
like super nerdy

6514
03:02:30,100 --> 03:02:31,100
about the road. So

6515
03:02:31,100 --> 03:02:32,100
like I love this stuff. If we

6516
03:02:32,100 --> 03:02:34,100
had the opportunity to spend

6517
03:02:34,100 --> 03:02:35,100
$10 million a year now,

6518
03:02:35,100 --> 03:02:36,100
but we don't do it, but we say

6519
03:02:36,100 --> 03:02:38,100
we wait five more years,

6520
03:02:38,100 --> 03:02:39,100
we would. Looking

6521
03:02:39,100 --> 03:02:41,100
at this graph, we fall so far

6522
03:02:41,100 --> 03:02:43,100
behind on that scoring index we

6523
03:02:43,100 --> 03:02:44,100
would likely have

6524
03:02:44,100 --> 03:02:46,100
to consider spending say 15

6525
03:02:46,100 --> 03:02:47,100
million a year, say in five

6526
03:02:47,100 --> 03:02:49,100
years or what do you think that

6527
03:02:49,100 --> 03:02:50,100
number would look like if we

6528
03:02:50,100 --> 03:02:51,100
wait another five more years

6529
03:02:51,100 --> 03:02:52,100
to have

6530
03:02:52,100 --> 03:02:53,100
to invest even more money?

6531
03:02:53,100 --> 03:02:55,100
>> It's hard to say that the

6532
03:02:55,100 --> 03:02:56,100
catch up just becomes more

6533
03:02:56,100 --> 03:02:57,100
expensive. To your point?

6534
03:02:57,100 --> 03:02:58,100
Point and right. It could go

6535
03:02:58,100 --> 03:03:01,100
two ways. We could spend more

6536
03:03:01,100 --> 03:03:03,100
over the same period of time

6537
03:03:03,100 --> 03:03:05,100
to get to that PCI we want

6538
03:03:05,100 --> 03:03:06,100
within a certain number

6539
03:03:06,100 --> 03:03:08,100
of years. Or we could spend

6540
03:03:08,100 --> 03:03:09,100
less and see if we ever get

6541
03:03:09,100 --> 03:03:11,401
there. To your point,

6542
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:18,100
we're getting very close

6543
03:03:18,100 --> 03:03:19,100
to dipping off what I call the

6544
03:03:19,100 --> 03:03:21,100
rehabilitation cliff. And when

6545
03:03:21,100 --> 03:03:22,100
that happens, we are going

6546
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:23,100
to have a number of

6547
03:03:23,100 --> 03:03:25,100
reconstruction projects which

6548
03:03:25,100 --> 03:03:27,100
we haven't had very many

6549
03:03:27,100 --> 03:03:29,100
of those in the city. And what

6550
03:03:29,100 --> 03:03:30,100
I mean by that is, I mean

6551
03:03:30,100 --> 03:03:32,100
ripping up everything that is

6552
03:03:32,100 --> 03:03:34,100
out there, down to the virgin

6553
03:03:34,100 --> 03:03:35,100
soil and building the road

6554
03:03:35,100 --> 03:03:36,100
completely back up. That is a

6555
03:03:36,100 --> 03:03:38,100
very intrusive operation. And

6556
03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:40,100
if you were just to think

6557
03:03:40,100 --> 03:03:42,100
about doing that along Churn

6558
03:03:42,100 --> 03:03:44,100
Creek, Hilltop Cypress, you're

6559
03:03:44,100 --> 03:03:45,100
talking

6560
03:03:45,100 --> 03:03:47,100
about every business that's

6561
03:03:47,100 --> 03:03:48,100
out there is having to deal

6562
03:03:48,100 --> 03:03:49,100
with temporary access

6563
03:03:49,100 --> 03:03:50,100
in and out. Do we do that at

6564
03:03:50,100 --> 03:03:52,100
nighttime and put light plants

6565
03:03:52,100 --> 03:03:54,100
out there and have backup

6566
03:03:54,100 --> 03:03:55,100
alarms all the evening

6567
03:03:55,100 --> 03:03:56,100
for the residents? It becomes

6568
03:03:56,100 --> 03:03:57,100
very expensive to do that. And

6569
03:03:57,100 --> 03:03:59,100
that is really why I would

6570
03:03:59,100 --> 03:04:01,100
recommend that we need to take

6571
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:03,100
this information seriously and

6572
03:04:03,100 --> 03:04:04,100
do everything we can

6573
03:04:04,100 --> 03:04:06,100
to avoid falling off that

6574
03:04:06,100 --> 03:04:08,100
rehabilitation cliff.

6575
03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:13,100
>> Anybody else?

6576
03:04:17,100 --> 03:04:19,100
>> Yeah, I just so on. Sorry.

6577
03:04:19,100 --> 03:04:21,100
On that slide

6578
03:04:21,100 --> 03:04:23,100
at the bottom it says

6579
03:04:23,100 --> 03:04:24,100
forecasted at 5 million per

6580
03:04:24,100 --> 03:04:26,100
year versus forecasted at

6581
03:04:26,100 --> 03:04:27,100
13.5. Are we currently spending

6582
03:04:27,100 --> 03:04:29,100
5 million a year? Is that why

6583
03:04:29,100 --> 03:04:30,100
that's there or what would you

6584
03:04:30,100 --> 03:04:31,100
say? On average we're spending

6585
03:04:31,100 --> 03:04:33,100
it's five.

6586
03:04:33,100 --> 03:04:34,100
>> It varies from year

6587
03:04:34,100 --> 03:04:35,100
to year. It depends

6588
03:04:35,100 --> 03:04:36,100
on the size of the project,

6589
03:04:36,100 --> 03:04:37,100
it depends on the bid prices,

6590
03:04:37,100 --> 03:04:38,100
it depends on, you know, but

6591
03:04:38,100 --> 03:04:39,100
on average we're, we feel

6592
03:04:39,100 --> 03:04:40,100
comfortable that we're spending

6593
03:04:40,100 --> 03:04:41,100
on average $5 million per year.

6594
03:04:41,100 --> 03:04:43,100
And that made me think of

6595
03:04:43,100 --> 03:04:44,100
something that I think is very

6596
03:04:44,100 --> 03:04:45,100
valid. This is today's dollars.

6597
03:04:45,100 --> 03:04:46,100
I have not escalated or

6598
03:04:46,100 --> 03:04:47,100
inflated. These are today

6599
03:04:47,100 --> 03:04:48,100
dollars.

6600
03:04:48,100 --> 03:04:49,100
>> So anticipate a lot more

6601
03:04:49,100 --> 03:04:50,100
escalation and.

6602
03:04:50,100 --> 03:04:51,100
>> Inflation are going

6603
03:04:51,100 --> 03:04:54,100
to occur and I, you know,

6604
03:04:54,100 --> 03:04:57,100
it becomes very difficult for

6605
03:04:57,100 --> 03:04:58,100
me. I can make escalation

6606
03:04:58,100 --> 03:04:59,100
assumptions, but I think it's

6607
03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:00,100
always easier to,

6608
03:05:00,100 --> 03:05:02,100
to provide this information

6609
03:05:02,100 --> 03:05:04,100
without that and be clear that

6610
03:05:04,100 --> 03:05:05,100
we're talking

6611
03:05:05,100 --> 03:05:06,100
in today's dollars.

6612
03:05:06,100 --> 03:05:07,100
>> So if we're currently

6613
03:05:07,100 --> 03:05:09,100
spending about 5 million a year

6614
03:05:09,100 --> 03:05:11,100
for pavement, is there a way

6615
03:05:11,100 --> 03:05:12,100
to increase that?

6616
03:05:12,100 --> 03:05:15,100
>> I'm going to stay in my lane

6617
03:05:15,100 --> 03:05:17,100
here because I believe the city

6618
03:05:17,100 --> 03:05:20,100
manager is going to touch

6619
03:05:22,100 --> 03:05:24,100
on that

6620
03:05:25,100 --> 03:05:27,100
in the next presentation for

6621
03:05:27,100 --> 03:05:29,100
our current budget. I think

6622
03:05:29,100 --> 03:05:31,100
he'll discuss what options are

6623
03:05:31,100 --> 03:05:32,100
if we were to desire to.

6624
03:05:32,100 --> 03:05:33,100
>> Unless. Unless that question

6625
03:05:33,100 --> 03:05:34,100
is relative to our current

6626
03:05:34,100 --> 03:05:36,100
streets budget.

6627
03:05:36,100 --> 03:05:38,100
>> Yeah, like. Like

6628
03:05:38,100 --> 03:05:39,100
for what that earlier just.

6629
03:05:39,100 --> 03:05:40,100
Yeah, like for what that

6630
03:05:40,100 --> 03:05:41,100
earlier slide showed,

6631
03:05:41,100 --> 03:05:42,100
like O and M versus capital.

6632
03:05:42,100 --> 03:05:43,100
Like is there a way

6633
03:05:43,100 --> 03:05:44,100
to switch that and increase?

6634
03:05:44,100 --> 03:05:45,100
Or are we committed

6635
03:05:45,100 --> 03:05:47,100
on capital projects for the

6636
03:05:47,100 --> 03:05:49,100
near future or for like 10

6637
03:05:49,100 --> 03:05:52,100
years out or how much have you

6638
03:05:52,100 --> 03:05:54,100
already committed

6639
03:05:54,100 --> 03:05:56,100
to that?

6640
03:05:56,100 --> 03:05:58,100
>> So what? He was laughing

6641
03:05:58,100 --> 03:05:59,100
at me. So certainly,

6642
03:05:59,100 --> 03:06:01,100
obviously we have flexibility

6643
03:06:01,100 --> 03:06:04,100
between those. I think I refer

6644
03:06:04,100 --> 03:06:05,100
to them as three food groups, O

6645
03:06:05,100 --> 03:06:07,100
and M capital and permanent

6646
03:06:07,100 --> 03:06:08,100
personnel. Obviously we want

6647
03:06:08,100 --> 03:06:11,100
to put every dollar possible

6648
03:06:11,100 --> 03:06:14,100
into the infrastructure. But I

6649
03:06:14,100 --> 03:06:16,100
would remind council that

6650
03:06:16,100 --> 03:06:18,100
really the OM is also providing

6651
03:06:18,100 --> 03:06:19,100
a critical service because they

6652
03:06:19,100 --> 03:06:21,100
provide a lot

6653
03:06:21,100 --> 03:06:22,100
of pavement maintenance.

6654
03:06:22,100 --> 03:06:23,100
Right. So if we were

6655
03:06:23,100 --> 03:06:24,100
to take funding

6656
03:06:24,100 --> 03:06:26,100
from them and shift it purely

6657
03:06:26,100 --> 03:06:28,100
to the capital project,

6658
03:06:28,100 --> 03:06:30,100
we're missing out on a lot

6659
03:06:30,100 --> 03:06:32,100
of that day to day maintenance

6660
03:06:32,100 --> 03:06:34,100
that there's crews perform like

6661
03:06:34,100 --> 03:06:35,100
potholes and crack ceiling and

6662
03:06:35,100 --> 03:06:37,100
that is a very critical element

6663
03:06:37,100 --> 03:06:38,100
of the pavement life cycle. So

6664
03:06:38,100 --> 03:06:40,401
I would be hesitant

6665
03:06:41,100 --> 03:06:43,100
to take very much if any

6666
03:06:43,100 --> 03:06:45,100
from our day

6667
03:06:46,100 --> 03:06:47,100
to day O and M operations.

6668
03:06:47,100 --> 03:06:48,100
But obviously we look

6669
03:06:48,100 --> 03:06:50,100
at that as much as possible.

6670
03:06:50,100 --> 03:06:51,100
And then

6671
03:06:51,100 --> 03:06:52,100
on the personnel side, we,

6672
03:06:52,100 --> 03:06:53,100
we need staff

6673
03:06:53,100 --> 03:06:55,100
to put the projects

6674
03:06:55,100 --> 03:06:57,100
out and do the work.

6675
03:06:57,100 --> 03:06:58,100
>> Yeah, I was mostly just

6676
03:06:58,100 --> 03:06:59,100
thinking the OM and capital and

6677
03:06:59,100 --> 03:07:00,100
how much flux responsibility

6678
03:07:00,100 --> 03:07:02,100
you had between that

6679
03:07:02,100 --> 03:07:03,100
to put towards. But I. I get

6680
03:07:03,100 --> 03:07:04,100
it.

6681
03:07:04,100 --> 03:07:05,100
>> Okay.

6682
03:07:05,100 --> 03:07:07,100
>> Thank you.

6683
03:07:09,100 --> 03:07:10,100
>> I don't really have you

6684
03:07:10,100 --> 03:07:11,100
answer my questions that I had.

6685
03:07:11,100 --> 03:07:12,100
I just wanted to say thank you

6686
03:07:12,100 --> 03:07:13,100
for this information. I don't

6687
03:07:13,100 --> 03:07:14,100
think that when I came.

6688
03:07:14,100 --> 03:07:15,100
>> Onto council the first time

6689
03:07:15,100 --> 03:07:16,100
that I.

6690
03:07:16,100 --> 03:07:17,100
>> Was expecting as many

6691
03:07:17,100 --> 03:07:18,100
complaints that we receive

6692
03:07:18,100 --> 03:07:19,100
about roads.

6693
03:07:19,100 --> 03:07:21,100
But as you are aware, it is the

6694
03:07:21,100 --> 03:07:22,100
most frequent and common email

6695
03:07:22,100 --> 03:07:25,100
judgment that we get. So thank

6696
03:07:25,100 --> 03:07:27,100
you for that information,

6697
03:07:27,100 --> 03:07:30,100
for the data. It's extremely

6698
03:07:32,100 --> 03:07:34,100
useful for us,

6699
03:07:36,100 --> 03:07:38,100
especially when we're

6700
03:07:39,100 --> 03:07:41,100
explaining to members

6701
03:07:41,100 --> 03:07:43,100
of the community.

6702
03:07:43,100 --> 03:07:44,100
>> My pleasure.

6703
03:07:44,100 --> 03:07:46,401
>> Thank you, Mr. Webb.

6704
03:07:47,100 --> 03:07:48,100
>> Thank you.

6705
03:07:48,100 --> 03:07:50,100
>> 9.11. Mr. Tippen.

6706
03:07:55,100 --> 03:07:56,100
>> Identify impact to the

6707
03:07:56,100 --> 03:07:57,100
general fund if an additional

6708
03:07:57,100 --> 03:07:59,100
$10 million annually was

6709
03:07:59,100 --> 03:08:01,100
redirected

6710
03:08:01,100 --> 03:08:02,100
for street maintenance.

6711
03:08:02,100 --> 03:08:05,100
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I

6712
03:08:05,100 --> 03:08:06,100
don't have the remote,

6713
03:08:06,100 --> 03:08:08,100
so I'm gonna look at Aaron or

6714
03:08:08,100 --> 03:08:09,100
something to. Steve's gonna

6715
03:08:09,100 --> 03:08:11,100
grab it. So this,

6716
03:08:11,100 --> 03:08:13,100
this item actually was an.

6717
03:08:13,100 --> 03:08:15,100
Item 12 in August. And at the

6718
03:08:15,100 --> 03:08:17,100
same time you'd requested these

6719
03:08:17,100 --> 03:08:18,100
monthly updates

6720
03:08:18,100 --> 03:08:20,100
from the department. So clearly

6721
03:08:20,100 --> 03:08:22,100
it's not a coincidence that

6722
03:08:22,100 --> 03:08:23,100
this item fell also where,

6723
03:08:23,100 --> 03:08:26,100
where public works and Michael

6724
03:08:29,100 --> 03:08:30,100
would give his presentation

6725
03:08:30,100 --> 03:08:32,100
regarding street so that we'd

6726
03:08:32,100 --> 03:08:34,100
have a good context

6727
03:08:34,100 --> 03:08:36,100
of where we're starting

6728
03:08:36,100 --> 03:08:37,100
from and where we're going.

6729
03:08:37,100 --> 03:08:40,100
And so this item is really

6730
03:08:40,100 --> 03:08:43,100
directed at. If we were

6731
03:08:43,100 --> 03:08:45,100
to redirect money

6732
03:08:45,100 --> 03:08:47,100
from the current general fund

6733
03:08:47,100 --> 03:08:49,100
to streets maintenance,

6734
03:08:49,100 --> 03:08:50,100
what might that look like

6735
03:08:50,100 --> 03:08:52,100
in terms of impacting other

6736
03:08:52,100 --> 03:08:53,100
planned expenditures

6737
03:08:53,100 --> 03:08:56,100
within the general fund? And so

6738
03:08:56,100 --> 03:08:57,100
that's the purpose

6739
03:08:57,100 --> 03:08:59,100
of this. I have a number

6740
03:08:59,100 --> 03:09:02,100
of disclaimers that I put

6741
03:09:02,100 --> 03:09:04,100
in here because, you know,

6742
03:09:04,100 --> 03:09:05,100
this, this is a super high

6743
03:09:05,100 --> 03:09:07,100
level exercise. I mean, I did

6744
03:09:07,100 --> 03:09:10,100
this myself. I did not involve

6745
03:09:10,100 --> 03:09:12,100
all of the departments. You can

6746
03:09:12,100 --> 03:09:14,100
imagine this type

6747
03:09:14,100 --> 03:09:16,100
of discussion gets a lot

6748
03:09:16,100 --> 03:09:18,100
of nervousness. I did ask

6749
03:09:18,100 --> 03:09:20,100
for some information

6750
03:09:20,100 --> 03:09:21,100
from finance in terms of

6751
03:09:21,100 --> 03:09:23,100
individual expenditures and I

6752
03:09:23,100 --> 03:09:24,100
did ask for information

6753
03:09:24,100 --> 03:09:25,100
on impacts

6754
03:09:25,100 --> 03:09:27,401
from the department directors.

6755
03:09:28,100 --> 03:09:30,100
But $10 million, as you see

6756
03:09:30,100 --> 03:09:32,100
in that first bullet point,

6757
03:09:32,100 --> 03:09:34,100
we've got about a $65 million

6758
03:09:34,100 --> 03:09:36,100
discretionary budget. And

6759
03:09:38,100 --> 03:09:41,100
that's just money that you have

6760
03:09:41,100 --> 03:09:42,100
available to choose

6761
03:09:42,100 --> 03:09:44,100
to do whatever you want with.

6762
03:09:44,100 --> 03:09:46,100
So the $10 million represents

6763
03:09:46,100 --> 03:09:47,100
about 15% of that. This is not

6764
03:09:47,100 --> 03:09:49,401
a detailed analysis or

6765
03:09:50,100 --> 03:09:51,100
identifies any implementation

6766
03:09:51,100 --> 03:09:53,100
steps. And what I mean

6767
03:09:53,100 --> 03:09:55,100
by that is, you know, some of

6768
03:09:55,100 --> 03:09:57,100
the expenditures that I list

6769
03:09:57,100 --> 03:09:59,100
are really for a high level

6770
03:09:59,100 --> 03:10:01,100
discussion because it doesn't

6771
03:10:01,100 --> 03:10:03,100
take

6772
03:10:03,100 --> 03:10:05,100
into account perhaps that some

6773
03:10:05,100 --> 03:10:06,100
of those have some Other

6774
03:10:06,100 --> 03:10:07,100
funding sources currently

6775
03:10:07,100 --> 03:10:09,100
embedded in that, whether it's

6776
03:10:09,100 --> 03:10:11,100
a safer grant or whether it's

6777
03:10:11,100 --> 03:10:12,100
RRU wildfire. I figured that

6778
03:10:12,100 --> 03:10:13,100
would be a much more

6779
03:10:13,100 --> 03:10:15,100
complicated effort and it's

6780
03:10:15,100 --> 03:10:17,100
probably not what you were

6781
03:10:17,100 --> 03:10:19,100
really looking for. So that

6782
03:10:19,100 --> 03:10:20,100
does not include this. It

6783
03:10:20,100 --> 03:10:22,100
doesn't include, you know, any

6784
03:10:22,100 --> 03:10:24,401
future actual reductions that

6785
03:10:27,100 --> 03:10:28,100
would happen because that

6786
03:10:28,100 --> 03:10:29,100
obviously requires much more

6787
03:10:29,100 --> 03:10:31,100
detailed analysis. I can tell

6788
03:10:31,100 --> 03:10:32,100
you that the most

6789
03:10:32,100 --> 03:10:34,100
representative time

6790
03:10:34,100 --> 03:10:37,100
in the city's history was the

6791
03:10:37,100 --> 03:10:38,100
Great Recession where, you

6792
03:10:38,100 --> 03:10:39,100
know, we lost $7 million in

6793
03:10:39,100 --> 03:10:41,100
about a year

6794
03:10:42,100 --> 03:10:44,100
in sales tax alone,

6795
03:10:44,100 --> 03:10:45,100
when that number was 24 million

6796
03:10:45,100 --> 03:10:47,100
at the time. And it was hours

6797
03:10:47,100 --> 03:10:48,100
upon hours upon hours

6798
03:10:48,100 --> 03:10:49,100
of analysis and work

6799
03:10:49,100 --> 03:10:51,100
within departments

6800
03:10:51,100 --> 03:10:52,100
to bring recommendations back

6801
03:10:52,100 --> 03:10:54,100
to council. So I just want to

6802
03:10:54,100 --> 03:10:55,100
make sure everybody understands

6803
03:10:55,100 --> 03:10:56,100
the level that this is at. Oh

6804
03:10:56,100 --> 03:10:58,100
sure.

6805
03:10:59,100 --> 03:11:02,100
>> Has it ever been discussed?

6806
03:11:03,100 --> 03:11:04,100
It just would. Because he's

6807
03:11:04,100 --> 03:11:07,100
public works. It makes me think

6808
03:11:07,100 --> 03:11:08,100
why isn't streets part of the

6809
03:11:08,100 --> 03:11:10,100
public works or would we ever

6810
03:11:10,100 --> 03:11:11,100
use public works budget

6811
03:11:11,100 --> 03:11:12,100
for streets? I know it's in

6812
03:11:12,100 --> 03:11:15,601
there because the gas tax. I

6813
03:11:16,100 --> 03:11:17,100
know, I understand how that

6814
03:11:17,100 --> 03:11:18,100
mechanisms work.

6815
03:11:18,100 --> 03:11:19,100
>> Streets hasn't always been

6816
03:11:19,100 --> 03:11:20,100
in public works. So streets its

6817
03:11:20,100 --> 03:11:21,100
own account. Right. So when I

6818
03:11:21,100 --> 03:11:22,100
first worked, came to work at

6819
03:11:22,100 --> 03:11:24,100
the city streets and actually

6820
03:11:24,100 --> 03:11:25,100
existed

6821
03:11:25,100 --> 03:11:26,100
under municipal utilities.

6822
03:11:26,100 --> 03:11:28,100
>> Right.

6823
03:11:29,100 --> 03:11:31,100
>> And then in 2006 it was

6824
03:11:31,100 --> 03:11:32,100
moved under engineering and

6825
03:11:32,100 --> 03:11:33,100
transportation. So streets has

6826
03:11:33,100 --> 03:11:34,100
always been sort of its own

6827
03:11:34,100 --> 03:11:35,100
bucket and transferred around.

6828
03:11:35,100 --> 03:11:36,100
>> It just moves around.

6829
03:11:36,100 --> 03:11:37,100
>> Yeah. And so

6830
03:11:37,100 --> 03:11:39,100
after actually the Great

6831
03:11:39,100 --> 03:11:40,100
Recession is part

6832
03:11:40,100 --> 03:11:42,100
of what caused public works to

6833
03:11:42,100 --> 03:11:44,100
get reformed because as we were

6834
03:11:44,100 --> 03:11:46,100
consolidating and eliminating

6835
03:11:46,100 --> 03:11:47,100
director positions, we started,

6836
03:11:47,100 --> 03:11:48,100
you know, building back up

6837
03:11:48,100 --> 03:11:50,100
certain departments

6838
03:11:51,100 --> 03:11:52,100
like public works. And so

6839
03:11:52,100 --> 03:11:53,100
public works became. Came

6840
03:11:53,100 --> 03:11:54,100
about because of the Great

6841
03:11:54,100 --> 03:11:55,100
Recession.

6842
03:11:55,100 --> 03:11:56,100
>> Really.

6843
03:11:56,100 --> 03:11:57,100
>> So is it possible to think

6844
03:11:57,100 --> 03:11:58,100
of a budget for streets coming

6845
03:11:58,100 --> 03:11:59,100
from the public works

6846
03:11:59,100 --> 03:12:00,100
department and not general

6847
03:12:00,100 --> 03:12:02,100
fund?

6848
03:12:02,100 --> 03:12:03,100
>> Yeah, I mean, sure, yeah,

6849
03:12:03,100 --> 03:12:04,100
it's really a public works

6850
03:12:04,100 --> 03:12:06,100
function, but the amount of

6851
03:12:06,100 --> 03:12:07,100
where the money is actually

6852
03:12:07,100 --> 03:12:09,100
held as a general fund.

6853
03:12:09,100 --> 03:12:11,100
>> Yeah.

6854
03:12:11,100 --> 03:12:13,100
>> Would it be worth

6855
03:12:13,100 --> 03:12:15,401
to have a discussion

6856
03:12:16,100 --> 03:12:17,100
about if it could come from

6857
03:12:17,100 --> 03:12:18,100
enterprise funds and not from.

6858
03:12:18,100 --> 03:12:20,100
>> It's probably not an

6859
03:12:20,100 --> 03:12:22,100
enterprise fund just because

6860
03:12:22,100 --> 03:12:23,100
of the nature

6861
03:12:23,100 --> 03:12:25,100
of what enterprise funds are.

6862
03:12:25,100 --> 03:12:27,100
They're self supporting. They

6863
03:12:27,100 --> 03:12:28,100
are usually rate based. They

6864
03:12:28,100 --> 03:12:30,100
have application to

6865
03:12:30,100 --> 03:12:31,100
Proposition 218. So there's

6866
03:12:31,100 --> 03:12:32,100
other fundamental issues if

6867
03:12:32,100 --> 03:12:33,100
from accounting. Well,

6868
03:12:33,100 --> 03:12:35,100
from an accounting perspective,

6869
03:12:35,100 --> 03:12:37,100
I would have to talk to

6870
03:12:37,100 --> 03:12:39,100
Finance and Mr. Robert about

6871
03:12:39,100 --> 03:12:41,100
whether that would make sense

6872
03:12:41,100 --> 03:12:43,100
or not. It's. It's perhaps

6873
03:12:43,100 --> 03:12:44,100
possible to move the account

6874
03:12:44,100 --> 03:12:45,100
over there. We could have

6875
03:12:45,100 --> 03:12:47,100
to talk to. We could,

6876
03:12:47,100 --> 03:12:48,100
we could discuss that maybe,

6877
03:12:48,100 --> 03:12:49,100
but not.

6878
03:12:49,100 --> 03:12:51,100
>> But it wouldn't be pulling

6879
03:12:51,100 --> 03:12:52,100
from any of those funds.

6880
03:12:52,100 --> 03:12:53,100
>> No, it would.

6881
03:12:53,100 --> 03:12:54,100
>> That's my question.

6882
03:12:54,100 --> 03:12:55,100
>> It would not.

6883
03:12:55,100 --> 03:12:56,100
>> I don't mean where it lives,

6884
03:12:56,100 --> 03:12:57,100
but I was just curious if

6885
03:12:57,100 --> 03:12:58,100
there's a different.

6886
03:12:58,100 --> 03:12:59,100
>> I do want

6887
03:12:59,100 --> 03:13:00,100
to just highlight that Mr.

6888
03:13:00,100 --> 03:13:01,100
Robinette did point out you do

6889
03:13:01,100 --> 03:13:02,100
have some situations where you

6890
03:13:02,100 --> 03:13:04,100
have been able

6891
03:13:04,100 --> 03:13:05,100
to use funds for.

6892
03:13:05,100 --> 03:13:07,100
From utilities that have

6893
03:13:07,100 --> 03:13:08,100
impacts on the roads.

6894
03:13:08,100 --> 03:13:09,100
>> Yes.

6895
03:13:09,100 --> 03:13:10,100
>> To be able to offset.

6896
03:13:10,100 --> 03:13:11,100
>> That was in the report.

6897
03:13:11,100 --> 03:13:12,100
>> But under Prop 26 and

6898
03:13:12,100 --> 03:13:14,401
under Prop 218, you're limited

6899
03:13:15,100 --> 03:13:16,100
in your ability

6900
03:13:16,100 --> 03:13:17,100
to essentially redirect funds

6901
03:13:17,100 --> 03:13:19,100
from those purposes. So it's

6902
03:13:19,100 --> 03:13:20,100
really got to be limited

6903
03:13:20,100 --> 03:13:21,100
to their direct impacts

6904
03:13:21,100 --> 03:13:22,100
on the roads

6905
03:13:22,100 --> 03:13:23,100
to the extent that you're able

6906
03:13:23,100 --> 03:13:24,100
to take those away and then

6907
03:13:24,100 --> 03:13:25,100
repurpose those. Otherwise

6908
03:13:25,100 --> 03:13:26,100
you'd be running

6909
03:13:26,100 --> 03:13:27,100
into legal issues.

6910
03:13:27,100 --> 03:13:28,100
>> Gotcha.

6911
03:13:28,100 --> 03:13:29,100
>> Yeah. And so I'm glad you

6912
03:13:29,100 --> 03:13:30,100
asked that question,

6913
03:13:30,100 --> 03:13:31,100
because this does focus only

6914
03:13:31,100 --> 03:13:32,100
on general funding and only on

6915
03:13:32,100 --> 03:13:33,100
the discretionary because

6916
03:13:33,100 --> 03:13:34,100
really the other elements where

6917
03:13:34,100 --> 03:13:35,100
we have opportunity

6918
03:13:35,100 --> 03:13:36,100
to transform money,

6919
03:13:36,100 --> 03:13:37,100
we pretty much have.

6920
03:13:37,100 --> 03:13:38,100
>> Yes.

6921
03:13:38,100 --> 03:13:39,100
>> So because obviously streets

6922
03:13:39,100 --> 03:13:40,100
have been a problem

6923
03:13:40,100 --> 03:13:41,100
for a long, long time. So.

6924
03:13:41,100 --> 03:13:42,100
Okay, so this only doesn't

6925
03:13:42,100 --> 03:13:43,100
include the issues that we'd

6926
03:13:43,100 --> 03:13:44,100
have

6927
03:13:44,100 --> 03:13:46,401
with labor groups depending

6928
03:13:50,100 --> 03:13:53,100
on where we'd make cuts.

6929
03:13:53,100 --> 03:13:56,100
Right. And it also doesn't

6930
03:13:56,100 --> 03:13:58,100
address all of our other

6931
03:13:58,100 --> 03:13:59,100
infrastructure needs. Just, you

6932
03:13:59,100 --> 03:14:00,100
know, we've had these big

6933
03:14:00,100 --> 03:14:01,100
conversations

6934
03:14:01,100 --> 03:14:02,100
about everything else. So I

6935
03:14:02,100 --> 03:14:03,100
don't want

6936
03:14:03,100 --> 03:14:04,100
to get just caught up

6937
03:14:04,100 --> 03:14:05,100
on streets.

6938
03:14:05,100 --> 03:14:06,100
>> And is the only thing we

6939
03:14:06,100 --> 03:14:07,100
have.

6940
03:14:07,100 --> 03:14:08,100
>> Because as you recall the

6941
03:14:08,100 --> 03:14:09,100
big presentation

6942
03:14:09,100 --> 03:14:10,100
on fire stations, we have

6943
03:14:10,100 --> 03:14:11,100
about 85 to 100 million dollars

6944
03:14:11,100 --> 03:14:12,100
worth

6945
03:14:12,100 --> 03:14:13,100
of fire station needs as well.

6946
03:14:13,100 --> 03:14:15,100
And then the caveat, again,

6947
03:14:15,100 --> 03:14:17,100
these are just illustrative.

6948
03:14:17,100 --> 03:14:19,100
This is not anything I am

6949
03:14:19,100 --> 03:14:20,100
recommending at this time. So

6950
03:14:20,100 --> 03:14:23,100
just for context, you know,

6951
03:14:23,100 --> 03:14:25,100
because we hear these types

6952
03:14:25,100 --> 03:14:26,100
of things all the time. So if

6953
03:14:26,100 --> 03:14:28,100
you eliminated every director

6954
03:14:28,100 --> 03:14:29,100
in the entire city

6955
03:14:29,100 --> 03:14:30,100
of reading, it's about $1.7

6956
03:14:30,100 --> 03:14:32,100
million to the general fund.

6957
03:14:32,100 --> 03:14:33,100
And that's because obviously

6958
03:14:33,100 --> 03:14:35,100
the other utilities pay

6959
03:14:35,100 --> 03:14:36,100
for cost allocation, internal

6960
03:14:36,100 --> 03:14:37,100
service funds and that sort

6961
03:14:37,100 --> 03:14:39,100
of thing. If you decided that,

6962
03:14:39,100 --> 03:14:41,100
hey, we still need to keep a

6963
03:14:41,100 --> 03:14:42,100
fire chief and police chief,

6964
03:14:42,100 --> 03:14:43,100
then that number goes down to

6965
03:14:43,100 --> 03:14:44,100
about a million. And that's

6966
03:14:44,100 --> 03:14:45,100
right, because the utilities

6967
03:14:45,100 --> 03:14:48,100
need payroll done. They need

6968
03:15:20,100 --> 03:15:22,100
financial work, they need

6969
03:15:22,100 --> 03:15:23,100
personnel, they need hiring,

6970
03:15:23,100 --> 03:15:24,100
they need all of that stuff.

6971
03:15:24,100 --> 03:15:26,100
So the reality, if you look

6972
03:15:26,100 --> 03:15:28,100
at general government, when you

6973
03:15:28,100 --> 03:15:29,100
include all the cost borne

6974
03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:31,100
by the utilities, it's about

6975
03:15:31,100 --> 03:15:32,100
$6.5 million total cost

6976
03:15:32,100 --> 03:15:34,401
to support our $550 million

6977
03:15:37,100 --> 03:15:39,100
budget. So we spend about 1.2%

6978
03:15:39,100 --> 03:15:40,100
of our total budget

6979
03:15:40,100 --> 03:15:42,401
in general government. And

6980
03:15:44,100 --> 03:15:46,401
lastly, with any reduction,

6981
03:15:48,100 --> 03:15:49,100
it's unlikely the city council

6982
03:15:49,100 --> 03:15:50,100
would be able to support other

6983
03:15:50,100 --> 03:15:51,100
things that don't technically

6984
03:15:51,100 --> 03:15:53,100
cost us money right now,

6985
03:15:53,100 --> 03:15:54,100
and that's the sports park,

6986
03:15:54,100 --> 03:15:55,100
the civic Auditorium, the arts

6987
03:15:55,100 --> 03:15:56,100
council, airports, etc. We

6988
03:15:56,100 --> 03:15:57,100
would not be able to continue

6989
03:15:57,100 --> 03:15:58,100
to assist those likely if

6990
03:15:58,100 --> 03:15:59,100
you're going

6991
03:15:59,100 --> 03:16:02,100
to make these types of cuts.

6992
03:16:02,100 --> 03:16:03,100
So just things to to think

6993
03:16:03,100 --> 03:16:04,100
about now we're getting

6994
03:16:04,100 --> 03:16:05,100
into the meat of it. Michael

6995
03:16:05,100 --> 03:16:06,100
just told us the solution. So I

6996
03:16:06,100 --> 03:16:07,100
figured, I just put it

6997
03:16:07,100 --> 03:16:09,100
in there, about $10 million a

6998
03:16:09,100 --> 03:16:10,100
year and that's what the

6999
03:16:10,100 --> 03:16:11,100
request was from the council.

7000
03:16:11,100 --> 03:16:14,100
So I'll go through these

7001
03:16:14,100 --> 03:16:16,100
relatively fast. I did two

7002
03:16:16,100 --> 03:16:18,100
options. One is looking at

7003
03:16:18,100 --> 03:16:20,100
staff and programs and the

7004
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:22,100
other was assuming that the

7005
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:23,100
council wanted

7006
03:16:23,100 --> 03:16:24,100
to keep all the various

7007
03:16:24,100 --> 03:16:25,100
programs

7008
03:16:25,100 --> 03:16:27,100
like recreation programs. And

7009
03:16:27,100 --> 03:16:29,100
so it's essentially just staff.

7010
03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:30,100
So I'll go

7011
03:16:30,100 --> 03:16:32,100
through those quick. The real

7012
03:16:32,100 --> 03:16:33,100
brief impacts to these are up

7013
03:16:33,100 --> 03:16:34,100
there. I'm not going to go

7014
03:16:34,100 --> 03:16:35,100
through those in detail.

7015
03:16:35,100 --> 03:16:36,100
Certainly you can look at them.

7016
03:16:36,100 --> 03:16:38,100
I think you'll know what they

7017
03:16:38,100 --> 03:16:39,100
all are. You know,

7018
03:16:39,100 --> 03:16:40,100
if we reduce police officers,

7019
03:16:40,100 --> 03:16:41,100
we have lower response times,

7020
03:16:41,100 --> 03:16:42,100
higher burnout, difficult

7021
03:16:42,100 --> 03:16:44,100
recruitments, you know,

7022
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:47,100
all sorts of things. So option

7023
03:16:47,100 --> 03:16:49,100
one, police department. So if

7024
03:16:49,100 --> 03:16:51,100
we eliminated five officers,

7025
03:16:51,100 --> 03:16:53,100
three detectives, eight CSOs

7026
03:16:53,100 --> 03:16:54,100
and three support staff

7027
03:16:54,100 --> 03:16:56,100
positions,

7028
03:16:56,100 --> 03:16:58,100
the total savings would be

7029
03:16:58,100 --> 03:17:00,100
around $2.4 million. And

7030
03:17:01,100 --> 03:17:03,100
of course, you know,

7031
03:17:03,100 --> 03:17:06,100
significant impact was the fire

7032
03:17:08,100 --> 03:17:09,100
station. It's about 2.1

7033
03:17:09,100 --> 03:17:11,100
million. And again,

7034
03:17:11,100 --> 03:17:12,100
significant issues

7035
03:17:12,100 --> 03:17:13,100
with our service levels

7036
03:17:13,100 --> 03:17:15,100
for the community, whether it's

7037
03:17:15,100 --> 03:17:16,100
land development and inability

7038
03:17:16,100 --> 03:17:18,100
to process those to just simple

7039
03:17:18,100 --> 03:17:19,100
response times as we'd be

7040
03:17:19,100 --> 03:17:21,100
covering the entire city

7041
03:17:21,100 --> 03:17:23,100
with a lesser station.

7042
03:17:23,100 --> 03:17:26,100
Community services. This is one

7043
03:17:26,100 --> 03:17:28,100
that actually gets pretty big

7044
03:17:28,100 --> 03:17:30,100
and pretty surprising if you

7045
03:17:30,100 --> 03:17:32,100
think about it. So recreation

7046
03:17:32,100 --> 03:17:33,100
programs, eliminated four parks

7047
03:17:33,100 --> 03:17:34,100
maintenance positions,

7048
03:17:34,100 --> 03:17:37,100
close the library and sorry,

7049
03:17:37,100 --> 03:17:39,100
Todd, if you're still here,

7050
03:17:39,100 --> 03:17:40,100
I think you are, you know,

7051
03:17:40,100 --> 03:17:42,100
cancel the rest of the visit.

7052
03:17:42,100 --> 03:17:43,100
Ready contract, that's about

7053
03:17:43,100 --> 03:17:45,100
$3.8 million that, that would

7054
03:17:45,100 --> 03:17:46,100
be available development

7055
03:17:46,100 --> 03:17:47,100
services,

7056
03:17:47,100 --> 03:17:48,100
full cost recovery model. So

7057
03:17:48,100 --> 03:17:50,100
that's about 1.5 that we could

7058
03:17:50,100 --> 03:17:51,100
expect there. Obviously that's,

7059
03:17:51,100 --> 03:17:52,100
you know, probably would not

7060
03:17:52,100 --> 03:17:53,100
fully realize that because we

7061
03:17:53,100 --> 03:17:56,100
had lower cost. Plus we'd have

7062
03:17:56,100 --> 03:17:57,100
people who wouldn't come get

7063
03:17:57,100 --> 03:17:58,100
permits because they're too,

7064
03:17:58,100 --> 03:17:59,100
too expensive. And we have

7065
03:17:59,100 --> 03:18:00,100
increased code enforcement

7066
03:18:00,100 --> 03:18:01,100
costs. And so again,

7067
03:18:01,100 --> 03:18:02,100
it's just illustrative. If we

7068
03:18:02,100 --> 03:18:03,100
went

7069
03:18:03,100 --> 03:18:05,100
to the general government,

7070
03:18:05,100 --> 03:18:06,100
took a position

7071
03:18:06,100 --> 03:18:08,100
from my office,

7072
03:18:09,100 --> 03:18:10,100
took two positions

7073
03:18:10,100 --> 03:18:12,100
from finance, one position from

7074
03:18:12,100 --> 03:18:14,100
the city attorney's office,

7075
03:18:14,100 --> 03:18:16,100
it's about $182,000. And that's

7076
03:18:16,100 --> 03:18:18,100
because those offices are paid

7077
03:18:18,100 --> 03:18:20,100
for by the utilities as well.

7078
03:18:20,100 --> 03:18:22,100
So they're providing services

7079
03:18:22,100 --> 03:18:23,100
not only to the General fund,

7080
03:18:23,100 --> 03:18:25,100
but all of the utilities

7081
03:18:25,100 --> 03:18:26,100
in every other department. So

7082
03:18:26,100 --> 03:18:28,100
you only get

7083
03:18:28,100 --> 03:18:29,100
about a 30% savings. So about

7084
03:18:29,100 --> 03:18:30,100
30 cents on every dollar is

7085
03:18:30,100 --> 03:18:32,100
what you can claim

7086
03:18:32,100 --> 03:18:33,100
in general fund savings. So

7087
03:18:33,100 --> 03:18:35,100
in summary, if you're looking

7088
03:18:35,100 --> 03:18:36,100
at staff and programs,

7089
03:18:36,100 --> 03:18:37,100
that sums up to about 10, $10

7090
03:18:37,100 --> 03:18:39,100
million, just over $10 million.

7091
03:18:39,100 --> 03:18:40,100
So if we go

7092
03:18:40,100 --> 03:18:41,100
to maintaining some

7093
03:18:41,100 --> 03:18:43,100
of those programs, obviously it

7094
03:18:43,100 --> 03:18:44,100
gets a lot worse when you talk

7095
03:18:44,100 --> 03:18:46,100
about staff. Now we're up to

7096
03:18:46,100 --> 03:18:47,100
12 officer positions, three

7097
03:18:47,100 --> 03:18:49,100
detectives, one captain, 10

7098
03:18:50,100 --> 03:18:52,100
CSOs, and three support staff

7099
03:18:52,100 --> 03:18:53,100
positions. Those numbers are

7100
03:18:53,100 --> 03:18:54,100
picked because it represents

7101
03:18:54,100 --> 03:18:55,100
98 sworn officers,

7102
03:18:55,100 --> 03:18:56,100
which is our low point in,

7103
03:18:56,100 --> 03:18:58,100
in recent history. And so we

7104
03:18:58,100 --> 03:19:00,100
have been there. So I just took

7105
03:19:00,100 --> 03:19:01,100
us back

7106
03:19:01,100 --> 03:19:03,100
to there as an example. That's

7107
03:19:03,100 --> 03:19:05,100
about 3.9, almost $4 million.

7108
03:19:05,100 --> 03:19:07,100
Fire department largely the

7109
03:19:07,100 --> 03:19:08,100
same, except for now talking

7110
03:19:08,100 --> 03:19:09,100
two fire stations at 2.8

7111
03:19:09,100 --> 03:19:11,100
Community Services. Now that

7112
03:19:11,100 --> 03:19:12,100
was way down because now we're

7113
03:19:12,100 --> 03:19:13,100
continuing to provide the

7114
03:19:13,100 --> 03:19:15,100
recreation programs. The

7115
03:19:17,100 --> 03:19:18,100
library remains open. And so

7116
03:19:18,100 --> 03:19:19,100
that savings, even though I

7117
03:19:19,100 --> 03:19:21,100
added two parks positions

7118
03:19:21,100 --> 03:19:22,100
to eliminate, that's about

7119
03:19:22,100 --> 03:19:23,100
600,000 development services.

7120
03:19:23,100 --> 03:19:24,100
Now we're maintaining the same

7121
03:19:24,100 --> 03:19:26,100
cost structure

7122
03:19:26,100 --> 03:19:28,100
for our those who want

7123
03:19:28,100 --> 03:19:29,100
to have permits,

7124
03:19:29,100 --> 03:19:31,100
but we take four positions out

7125
03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:34,100
of there. So obviously we're

7126
03:19:34,100 --> 03:19:36,100
impacting our ability

7127
03:19:38,100 --> 03:19:40,100
to actually deliver permits

7128
03:19:40,100 --> 03:19:42,100
to individuals. That's about

7129
03:19:42,100 --> 03:19:44,100
400,000 miscellaneous. The

7130
03:19:45,100 --> 03:19:48,100
realistic option here would be,

7131
03:19:50,100 --> 03:19:51,100
I don't know how realistic it

7132
03:19:51,100 --> 03:19:53,100
actually is, but

7133
03:19:58,100 --> 03:20:00,100
like a 15% cut to all

7134
03:20:00,100 --> 03:20:02,401
of the unrepresented managers.

7135
03:20:03,100 --> 03:20:05,100
Likely you probably wouldn't do

7136
03:20:05,100 --> 03:20:06,100
that, but this is just

7137
03:20:06,100 --> 03:20:08,100
for context because Reu

7138
03:20:08,100 --> 03:20:09,100
obviously wouldn't save you a

7139
03:20:09,100 --> 03:20:11,100
dime, but that's about

7140
03:20:11,100 --> 03:20:12,100
$570,000. If you were

7141
03:20:12,100 --> 03:20:14,100
to do that

7142
03:20:14,100 --> 03:20:16,100
in the box. I actually said,

7143
03:20:16,100 --> 03:20:18,100
well, what if you just cut all

7144
03:20:18,100 --> 03:20:19,100
the directors by one half? You

7145
03:20:19,100 --> 03:20:21,100
know, their salary gets cut

7146
03:20:21,100 --> 03:20:23,401
in half. That's about $1.9

7147
03:20:24,100 --> 03:20:26,100
million. I didn't use that

7148
03:20:26,100 --> 03:20:27,100
in the final calculation,

7149
03:20:27,100 --> 03:20:28,100
but just again,

7150
03:20:28,100 --> 03:20:29,100
for some context in terms

7151
03:20:29,100 --> 03:20:30,100
of what that number is. And

7152
03:20:30,100 --> 03:20:33,100
then if you just started

7153
03:20:33,100 --> 03:20:35,100
to go, okay, we just have

7154
03:20:35,100 --> 03:20:36,100
to actually sort

7155
03:20:36,100 --> 03:20:38,100
of start nipping and tucking.

7156
03:20:38,100 --> 03:20:39,100
It really goes into the

7157
03:20:39,100 --> 03:20:40,100
internal service funds. And

7158
03:20:40,100 --> 03:20:42,100
they have cost

7159
03:20:42,100 --> 03:20:45,100
to the general fund somewhere

7160
03:20:46,100 --> 03:20:47,100
between 25 and 40%, sort

7161
03:20:47,100 --> 03:20:48,100
of depending

7162
03:20:48,100 --> 03:20:50,100
on where they're at. I used

7163
03:20:50,100 --> 03:20:51,100
about 30% as just a general

7164
03:20:51,100 --> 03:20:52,100
average. So we need about

7165
03:20:52,100 --> 03:20:54,100
800,000. You'll see that we're

7166
03:20:54,100 --> 03:20:55,100
a little high on the 10

7167
03:20:55,100 --> 03:20:57,100
million, but I used 800,000.

7168
03:20:57,100 --> 03:20:59,100
So that's 20 plus employees,

7169
03:20:59,100 --> 03:21:00,100
depending on who they are and

7170
03:21:00,100 --> 03:21:01,100
where they come from. That

7171
03:21:01,100 --> 03:21:03,100
would be reduced from the

7172
03:21:03,100 --> 03:21:04,100
internal service funds. That's

7173
03:21:04,100 --> 03:21:05,100
it. That's your fleet

7174
03:21:05,100 --> 03:21:06,100
maintenance,

7175
03:21:06,100 --> 03:21:08,100
that's your records and,

7176
03:21:08,100 --> 03:21:10,100
and those types of positions,

7177
03:21:10,100 --> 03:21:11,100
employer services. And so

7178
03:21:11,100 --> 03:21:12,100
in order

7179
03:21:12,100 --> 03:21:14,100
to get that number up, It's a.

7180
03:21:14,100 --> 03:21:15,100
It's 20 plus employees.

7181
03:21:15,100 --> 03:21:17,100
>> I know that you said this. I

7182
03:21:17,100 --> 03:21:19,100
know that you said this. Can

7183
03:21:19,100 --> 03:21:20,100
you go back to one? I know that

7184
03:21:20,100 --> 03:21:22,100
you said this out loud,

7185
03:21:22,100 --> 03:21:23,100
but I just wanted

7186
03:21:23,100 --> 03:21:24,100
to because it's

7187
03:21:24,100 --> 03:21:27,100
on the screen. You meant

7188
03:21:27,100 --> 03:21:28,100
unrepresented managers, all

7189
03:21:28,100 --> 03:21:29,100
of them. Right, all of them.

7190
03:21:29,100 --> 03:21:31,100
Your salary gets talked

7191
03:21:31,100 --> 03:21:32,100
about a lot, so I wanted to

7192
03:21:32,100 --> 03:21:33,100
make sure that reducing your

7193
03:21:33,100 --> 03:21:34,100
pay by 15% did not look like

7194
03:21:34,100 --> 03:21:36,100
575.

7195
03:21:36,100 --> 03:21:37,100
>> Yeah, that's every single

7196
03:21:37,100 --> 03:21:39,100
unrepresented manager. So

7197
03:21:39,100 --> 03:21:41,100
unfortunately, that's James,

7198
03:21:42,100 --> 03:21:44,100
that's Josh, that's Ryan.

7199
03:21:44,100 --> 03:21:46,401
>> Yeah, that's about 111 total

7200
03:21:51,100 --> 03:21:52,100
are unrepresented management.

7201
03:21:52,100 --> 03:21:53,100
>> Correct.

7202
03:21:53,100 --> 03:21:54,100
>> Okay.

7203
03:21:54,100 --> 03:21:55,100
>> Most of those are areu.

7204
03:21:55,100 --> 03:21:56,100
So. So REU RU has a lower level

7205
03:21:56,100 --> 03:21:58,100
of unrepresented individuals

7206
03:21:59,100 --> 03:22:01,401
like electrical engineers. So

7207
03:22:02,100 --> 03:22:04,100
they have a broader swath

7208
03:22:04,100 --> 03:22:05,100
of them in REU than you see

7209
03:22:05,100 --> 03:22:07,100
in the other departments.

7210
03:22:07,100 --> 03:22:08,100
Whereas in public works, like I

7211
03:22:08,100 --> 03:22:10,100
just unfortunately pointed out

7212
03:22:10,100 --> 03:22:11,100
for those gentlemen

7213
03:22:11,100 --> 03:22:12,100
below them is largely going to

7214
03:22:12,100 --> 03:22:13,100
be represented employees.

7215
03:22:13,100 --> 03:22:15,100
>> So this 111

7216
03:22:16,100 --> 03:22:18,100
for unrepresented. It's not

7217
03:22:18,100 --> 03:22:20,100
111. Or is that.

7218
03:22:20,100 --> 03:22:21,100
>> No, it's 111.

7219
03:22:21,100 --> 03:22:22,100
>> The general fund. It's

7220
03:22:22,100 --> 03:22:23,100
111.

7221
03:22:23,100 --> 03:22:24,100
>> No, it's 111 of

7222
03:22:24,100 --> 03:22:25,100
unrepresented managers.

7223
03:22:25,100 --> 03:22:26,100
>> Okay, but for the general

7224
03:22:26,100 --> 03:22:27,100
fund.

7225
03:22:27,100 --> 03:22:28,100
>> I don't know the exact

7226
03:22:28,100 --> 03:22:29,100
number. General fund is much,

7227
03:22:29,100 --> 03:22:30,100
much lower than that

7228
03:22:30,100 --> 03:22:32,100
for just general fund.

7229
03:22:32,100 --> 03:22:33,100
In fact,

7230
03:22:33,100 --> 03:22:35,100
for just general fund,

7231
03:22:35,100 --> 03:22:36,100
it's probably your police

7232
03:22:36,100 --> 03:22:38,100
chief, fire chief and deputy

7233
03:22:38,100 --> 03:22:39,100
fire chiefs. That's it

7234
03:22:39,100 --> 03:22:42,100
for just general fund. Because

7235
03:22:42,100 --> 03:22:44,100
my position, Steve's position

7236
03:22:44,100 --> 03:22:45,100
is all funded

7237
03:22:45,100 --> 03:22:46,100
by other departments. So. So

7238
03:22:46,100 --> 03:22:47,100
you, you're only taking bits

7239
03:22:47,100 --> 03:22:48,100
and pieces

7240
03:22:48,100 --> 03:22:50,100
from their salary.

7241
03:22:50,100 --> 03:22:52,100
>> So then what's this number

7242
03:22:52,100 --> 03:22:53,100
represent?

7243
03:22:53,100 --> 03:22:54,100
>> The 570.

7244
03:22:54,100 --> 03:22:55,100
>> Yes.

7245
03:22:55,100 --> 03:22:56,100
>> That's a 15 reduction of.

7246
03:22:56,100 --> 03:22:57,100
>> Just

7247
03:22:57,100 --> 03:22:58,100
for the general fund.

7248
03:22:58,100 --> 03:23:00,100
>> Well, I just did it

7249
03:23:00,100 --> 03:23:01,100
across all of them. But it,

7250
03:23:01,100 --> 03:23:04,100
but it, but that's the general

7251
03:23:04,100 --> 03:23:05,100
fund savings. So you got, you

7252
03:23:05,100 --> 03:23:07,401
know, Tony Van Bokle,

7253
03:23:08,100 --> 03:23:09,100
for instance,

7254
03:23:09,100 --> 03:23:10,100
is an internal service fund.

7255
03:23:10,100 --> 03:23:11,100
So that director position does

7256
03:23:11,100 --> 03:23:12,100
have value

7257
03:23:12,100 --> 03:23:13,100
to the general fund,

7258
03:23:13,100 --> 03:23:15,100
but it's only about 30%.

7259
03:23:15,100 --> 03:23:16,100
>> So it's 111 employees.

7260
03:23:16,100 --> 03:23:17,100
But it's. Obviously the ratio

7261
03:23:17,100 --> 03:23:19,100
is going

7262
03:23:19,100 --> 03:23:20,100
to be different for.

7263
03:23:20,100 --> 03:23:21,100
>> Yeah, because I don't know.

7264
03:23:21,100 --> 03:23:22,100
I don't know the number.

7265
03:23:22,100 --> 03:23:23,100
>> The general fund amount.

7266
03:23:23,100 --> 03:23:24,100
>> The. The biggest number

7267
03:23:24,100 --> 03:23:25,100
of that 111 is in reu.

7268
03:23:25,100 --> 03:23:27,100
>> Gotcha.

7269
03:23:28,100 --> 03:23:29,100
>> Yeah.

7270
03:23:29,100 --> 03:23:30,100
>> And so obviously there would

7271
03:23:30,100 --> 03:23:31,100
be zero value

7272
03:23:31,100 --> 03:23:32,100
to the general fund by reducing

7273
03:23:32,100 --> 03:23:33,100
them that's why I said largely

7274
03:23:33,100 --> 03:23:35,100
you wouldn't do that.

7275
03:23:35,100 --> 03:23:37,100
But frankly, we did do some

7276
03:23:37,100 --> 03:23:38,100
of that during the Great

7277
03:23:38,100 --> 03:23:39,100
Recession

7278
03:23:39,100 --> 03:23:40,100
for parity and it didn't work

7279
03:23:40,100 --> 03:23:42,100
out so well for us. Yeah, well,

7280
03:23:42,100 --> 03:23:44,100
maybe did we got Nick. So then

7281
03:23:44,100 --> 03:23:45,100
the general, the general

7282
03:23:45,100 --> 03:23:47,100
government, you know,

7283
03:23:49,100 --> 03:23:50,100
is basically the same as we had

7284
03:23:50,100 --> 03:23:52,100
before at 182,000. Summarize

7285
03:23:53,100 --> 03:23:55,401
that you get about 10.26

7286
03:23:56,100 --> 03:23:58,100
million with all

7287
03:23:58,100 --> 03:24:00,100
of those reductions. And so

7288
03:24:00,100 --> 03:24:02,100
again, that's just a real fast

7289
03:24:02,100 --> 03:24:04,100
look and it just gives you an

7290
03:24:04,100 --> 03:24:06,100
idea of the types of impacts

7291
03:24:06,100 --> 03:24:08,100
that you would be looking

7292
03:24:08,100 --> 03:24:09,100
at if you truly just wanted

7293
03:24:09,100 --> 03:24:11,100
to take our current 10 million

7294
03:24:11,100 --> 03:24:12,100
dollar

7295
03:24:12,100 --> 03:24:14,100
of general fund money and push

7296
03:24:14,100 --> 03:24:15,100
to streets maintenance. The

7297
03:24:15,100 --> 03:24:16,100
types of changes you'd have

7298
03:24:16,100 --> 03:24:18,100
to make,

7299
03:24:18,100 --> 03:24:19,100
especially if you wanted to

7300
03:24:19,100 --> 03:24:20,100
make that an annualized change.

7301
03:24:20,100 --> 03:24:23,100
And with that, I'm available

7302
03:24:23,100 --> 03:24:25,100
for any questions as well as

7303
03:24:25,100 --> 03:24:26,100
I'm sure some

7304
03:24:26,100 --> 03:24:27,100
of the directors are available

7305
03:24:27,100 --> 03:24:28,100
to come up here and talk

7306
03:24:28,100 --> 03:24:29,100
about their impacts.

7307
03:24:29,100 --> 03:24:31,401
>> Mr. Liddell, this is

7308
03:24:33,100 --> 03:24:35,100
like your last report.

7309
03:24:35,100 --> 03:24:36,100
>> Yeah, it's fun, right?

7310
03:24:36,100 --> 03:24:37,100
>> Begging for money.

7311
03:24:37,100 --> 03:24:38,100
>> Yeah. No, I think this is

7312
03:24:38,100 --> 03:24:40,100
important to do today. It

7313
03:24:40,100 --> 03:24:41,100
strikes back

7314
03:24:41,100 --> 03:24:42,100
from some comments Councillor

7315
03:24:42,100 --> 03:24:44,100
Danuka said many meetings ago.

7316
03:24:44,100 --> 03:24:45,100
He says our city,

7317
03:24:45,100 --> 03:24:46,100
we just have a revenue problem,

7318
03:24:46,100 --> 03:24:47,100
you know, and just looking

7319
03:24:47,100 --> 03:24:49,100
at our entire budget,

7320
03:24:49,100 --> 03:24:50,100
there's so much that we want

7321
03:24:50,100 --> 03:24:52,100
to do that we need to do. And

7322
03:24:52,100 --> 03:24:53,100
how are we ever going to do all

7323
03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:55,100
this stuff unless we increase

7324
03:24:55,100 --> 03:24:56,100
revenue? And you know, most of

7325
03:24:56,100 --> 03:24:57,100
our revenue is sales tax and

7326
03:24:57,100 --> 03:25:00,100
property tax and that just

7327
03:25:00,100 --> 03:25:01,100
doesn't double overnight. I

7328
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:03,100
mean, there's so much unmet

7329
03:25:03,100 --> 03:25:04,100
needs that we really have here.

7330
03:25:04,100 --> 03:25:06,100
Just for full transparency. I

7331
03:25:06,100 --> 03:25:07,100
don't think anybody in the

7332
03:25:07,100 --> 03:25:09,100
council is really advertising

7333
03:25:09,100 --> 03:25:10,100
or promoting saying to cut

7334
03:25:10,100 --> 03:25:11,100
public safety and saying, hey,

7335
03:25:11,100 --> 03:25:13,100
we should be doing this right

7336
03:25:13,100 --> 03:25:14,100
away. That's just not a good

7337
03:25:14,100 --> 03:25:16,100
thing. And that's not what the

7338
03:25:16,100 --> 03:25:18,100
public is saying is to go cut

7339
03:25:18,100 --> 03:25:19,100
police officers and

7340
03:25:19,100 --> 03:25:20,100
firefighters because we find

7341
03:25:20,100 --> 03:25:21,100
very much big value

7342
03:25:21,100 --> 03:25:22,100
to that. I mean that's,

7343
03:25:22,100 --> 03:25:24,100
that's the core of our city is

7344
03:25:24,100 --> 03:25:25,100
making people feel safe and

7345
03:25:25,100 --> 03:25:26,100
protected. And so we appreciate

7346
03:25:26,100 --> 03:25:27,100
everybody

7347
03:25:27,100 --> 03:25:28,100
in public safety. A lot

7348
03:25:28,100 --> 03:25:30,100
of sacrifices you make

7349
03:25:30,100 --> 03:25:32,100
out there and we need you. The

7350
03:25:32,100 --> 03:25:33,100
roads are a big problem. The

7351
03:25:33,100 --> 03:25:35,100
roads is what we drive

7352
03:25:35,100 --> 03:25:37,100
on every single day. And

7353
03:25:37,100 --> 03:25:39,100
they're just going

7354
03:25:39,100 --> 03:25:41,100
to get more and more expensive.

7355
03:25:41,100 --> 03:25:43,100
And this has been something

7356
03:25:43,100 --> 03:25:44,100
I've heard before I was elected

7357
03:25:44,100 --> 03:25:45,100
here. I've heard this rhetoric

7358
03:25:45,100 --> 03:25:47,100
about the roads 10 years ago.

7359
03:25:47,100 --> 03:25:48,100
15, you value public safety.

7360
03:25:48,100 --> 03:25:51,601
Which one do you want? You

7361
03:27:18,100 --> 03:27:19,100
know, because without increase

7362
03:27:19,100 --> 03:27:21,100
in revenue, we're not going

7363
03:27:21,100 --> 03:27:23,100
to get this stuff. And it's

7364
03:27:23,100 --> 03:27:24,100
just going to Be a constant

7365
03:27:24,100 --> 03:27:26,100
discussion that's going

7366
03:27:26,100 --> 03:27:27,100
to come over and over again.

7367
03:27:27,100 --> 03:27:29,100
So I just think it's very

7368
03:27:29,100 --> 03:27:30,100
valuable that we brought this

7369
03:27:30,100 --> 03:27:31,100
presentation,

7370
03:27:31,100 --> 03:27:33,100
probably the best one we've

7371
03:27:33,100 --> 03:27:34,100
seen in many, many years, just

7372
03:27:34,100 --> 03:27:35,100
to paint a picture

7373
03:27:35,100 --> 03:27:36,100
of what we need to do, because

7374
03:27:36,100 --> 03:27:38,100
we've never really been

7375
03:27:38,100 --> 03:27:39,100
presented a solution ever

7376
03:27:39,100 --> 03:27:41,100
in the past that says,

7377
03:27:41,100 --> 03:27:42,100
how are we going to do it?

7378
03:27:42,100 --> 03:27:43,100
Right. All we say is we just

7379
03:27:43,100 --> 03:27:46,100
don't spend enough towards the

7380
03:27:46,100 --> 03:27:47,100
roads and we need to do more.

7381
03:27:47,100 --> 03:27:50,100
We have a big problem here. We

7382
03:27:50,100 --> 03:27:53,100
just don't have the revenue

7383
03:27:53,100 --> 03:27:54,100
to do it. So that's my

7384
03:27:54,100 --> 03:27:55,100
comments.

7385
03:27:55,100 --> 03:27:56,100
>> Anybody else?

7386
03:27:56,100 --> 03:27:58,100
>> I just want

7387
03:27:59,100 --> 03:28:00,100
to say thank you

7388
03:28:00,100 --> 03:28:01,100
for the information. That's

7389
03:28:01,100 --> 03:28:02,100
all.

7390
03:28:02,100 --> 03:28:03,100
>> Thank you, sir. All right,

7391
03:28:03,100 --> 03:28:06,100
well, we shall move on.

7392
03:28:08,100 --> 03:28:10,100
Travel.

7393
03:28:12,100 --> 03:28:13,100
>> Council travel reports.

7394
03:28:13,100 --> 03:28:15,100
>> Oh, none.

7395
03:28:15,100 --> 03:28:16,100
>> All right, item 12.

7396
03:28:16,100 --> 03:28:18,100
>> Aaron.

7397
03:28:19,100 --> 03:28:20,100
>> She's getting ready to hit

7398
03:28:20,100 --> 03:28:22,100
the button.

7399
03:28:22,100 --> 03:28:23,100
>> I didn't even get

7400
03:28:23,100 --> 03:28:27,100
to hit my button. I have two.

7401
03:28:27,100 --> 03:28:28,100
The first one,

7402
03:28:28,100 --> 03:28:29,100
and maybe I misunderstood what

7403
03:28:29,100 --> 03:28:31,401
Director Webb was suggesting,

7404
03:28:32,100 --> 03:28:33,100
but is anybody interested

7405
03:28:33,100 --> 03:28:34,100
in bringing back,

7406
03:28:34,100 --> 03:28:35,100
changing that council policy

7407
03:28:35,100 --> 03:28:36,100
from 10%? Did I understand that

7408
03:28:36,100 --> 03:28:37,100
correctly? 10% percent.

7409
03:28:37,100 --> 03:28:38,100
>> So I do think there's a

7410
03:28:38,100 --> 03:28:39,100
little bit of confusion on that

7411
03:28:39,100 --> 03:28:40,100
one. I think you're referring

7412
03:28:40,100 --> 03:28:41,100
to the, the question about the

7413
03:28:41,100 --> 03:28:42,100
reserve policy and the 10%.

7414
03:28:42,100 --> 03:28:43,100
>> That's not an actual council

7415
03:28:43,100 --> 03:28:44,100
policy.

7416
03:28:44,100 --> 03:28:45,100
>> I believe the policy,

7417
03:28:45,100 --> 03:28:46,100
the council policy refers to

7418
03:28:46,100 --> 03:28:47,100
the general reserve percentage.

7419
03:28:47,100 --> 03:28:48,100
I'll look to Mr. Tiffin

7420
03:28:48,100 --> 03:28:49,100
to correct me if I'm wrong.

7421
03:28:49,100 --> 03:28:50,100
>> Yeah, there is no,

7422
03:28:50,100 --> 03:28:51,100
there is no council policy.

7423
03:28:51,100 --> 03:28:52,100
And actually Director Webb and

7424
03:28:52,100 --> 03:28:53,100
I today talked

7425
03:28:53,100 --> 03:28:56,100
about maybe him taking a stab,

7426
03:28:56,100 --> 03:28:57,100
given the state of finances

7427
03:28:57,100 --> 03:28:59,100
today versus years past,

7428
03:28:59,100 --> 03:29:00,100
not only in streets, but also

7429
03:29:00,100 --> 03:29:02,100
in the water utility where we

7430
03:29:02,100 --> 03:29:03,100
have, you know,

7431
03:29:03,100 --> 03:29:04,100
drought requirements and, you

7432
03:29:04,100 --> 03:29:05,100
know, reduced water usage

7433
03:29:05,100 --> 03:29:07,100
requirements, but we have

7434
03:29:07,100 --> 03:29:09,100
increasing costs and ever

7435
03:29:09,100 --> 03:29:11,100
increasing regulatory pressures

7436
03:29:11,100 --> 03:29:12,100
and wastewater and solid waste

7437
03:29:12,100 --> 03:29:13,100
that, you know,

7438
03:29:13,100 --> 03:29:14,100
developing some fashion of

7439
03:29:14,100 --> 03:29:16,100
financial management policy

7440
03:29:16,100 --> 03:29:17,100
similar to what you have in RU

7441
03:29:17,100 --> 03:29:19,100
to help guide the discussion

7442
03:29:19,100 --> 03:29:21,100
in terms

7443
03:29:21,100 --> 03:29:23,100
of what reserve should be. You

7444
03:29:23,100 --> 03:29:24,100
know, what are the metrics

7445
03:29:24,100 --> 03:29:26,100
around rates and that sort

7446
03:29:26,100 --> 03:29:29,100
of thing. When do you bond,

7447
03:29:29,100 --> 03:29:32,100
when you not bond or those

7448
03:29:32,100 --> 03:29:33,100
types of things. And so I think

7449
03:29:33,100 --> 03:29:34,100
he's going

7450
03:29:34,100 --> 03:29:35,100
to be considering that

7451
03:29:35,100 --> 03:29:36,100
over the next year. And, and

7452
03:29:36,100 --> 03:29:38,100
we'll be coming back

7453
03:29:38,100 --> 03:29:40,100
with you if he has a solution

7454
03:29:40,100 --> 03:29:42,100
to that.

7455
03:29:43,100 --> 03:29:44,100
>> Perfect.

7456
03:29:44,100 --> 03:29:45,100
>> Clarifying question

7457
03:29:45,100 --> 03:29:46,100
with that on that reserve

7458
03:29:46,100 --> 03:29:47,100
policy was that a reserve

7459
03:29:47,100 --> 03:29:48,100
policy itself says we can never

7460
03:29:48,100 --> 03:29:50,100
have less than that in roads or

7461
03:29:50,100 --> 03:29:51,100
we can't have more than that.

7462
03:29:51,100 --> 03:29:52,100
>> It's like he just meant it

7463
03:29:52,100 --> 03:29:53,100
was general. You can clarify.

7464
03:29:53,100 --> 03:29:54,100
>> I thought you meant like we

7465
03:29:54,100 --> 03:29:55,100
can't have more than that

7466
03:29:55,100 --> 03:29:56,100
dollar amount.

7467
03:29:56,100 --> 03:29:57,100
>> Yeah. Is that what I'm

7468
03:29:57,100 --> 03:29:59,100
saying common practice. He

7469
03:29:59,100 --> 03:30:00,100
wants to keep a buffer, like,

7470
03:30:00,100 --> 03:30:02,100
meaning because there's 2

7471
03:30:02,100 --> 03:30:04,100
million, don't feel

7472
03:30:04,100 --> 03:30:05,100
like go spend it right now

7473
03:30:05,100 --> 03:30:06,100
like he wants a buffer.

7474
03:30:06,100 --> 03:30:07,100
>> Exactly, yeah.

7475
03:30:07,100 --> 03:30:08,100
>> And, and just

7476
03:30:08,100 --> 03:30:10,401
for general information, your

7477
03:30:11,100 --> 03:30:13,100
general reserve buffer is not

7478
03:30:13,100 --> 03:30:14,100
necessarily going to line up

7479
03:30:14,100 --> 03:30:15,100
with the buffer that you may

7480
03:30:15,100 --> 03:30:16,100
have in individual accounts

7481
03:30:16,100 --> 03:30:18,100
for different reasons. So it's

7482
03:30:18,100 --> 03:30:20,100
not uncommon to have both the

7483
03:30:20,100 --> 03:30:21,100
general reserve and special

7484
03:30:21,100 --> 03:30:22,100
reserve, you know, based

7485
03:30:22,100 --> 03:30:23,100
on the needs

7486
03:30:23,100 --> 03:30:24,100
of particular operations.

7487
03:30:24,100 --> 03:30:26,100
>> Then I look forward

7488
03:30:26,100 --> 03:30:27,100
to what you come back to us

7489
03:30:27,100 --> 03:30:28,100
with and I'm glad that that was

7490
03:30:28,100 --> 03:30:29,100
already an item that you

7491
03:30:29,100 --> 03:30:30,100
thought was valuable

7492
03:30:30,100 --> 03:30:33,100
to us and I obviously agree.

7493
03:30:33,100 --> 03:30:35,100
My second item is that last

7494
03:30:35,100 --> 03:30:36,100
week it was brought

7495
03:30:36,100 --> 03:30:38,100
to my attention that Advanced

7496
03:30:38,100 --> 03:30:40,100
Reading had made multiple large

7497
03:30:40,100 --> 03:30:42,401
donations in our community,

7498
03:30:43,100 --> 03:30:45,100
including contributions towards

7499
03:30:45,100 --> 03:30:47,100
the citizen sales tax

7500
03:30:47,100 --> 03:30:50,100
initiative and to the Denver

7501
03:30:50,100 --> 03:30:51,100
flight. I should probably note

7502
03:30:51,100 --> 03:30:53,100
that,

7503
03:30:53,100 --> 03:30:54,100
and I'm pretty sure it's true

7504
03:30:54,100 --> 03:30:56,100
for the rest of council,

7505
03:30:56,100 --> 03:30:58,100
but I can't speak

7506
03:30:58,100 --> 03:30:59,100
for everybody, but I haven't

7507
03:30:59,100 --> 03:31:00,100
had any involvement

7508
03:31:00,100 --> 03:31:02,100
in the sales tax committee. So

7509
03:31:02,100 --> 03:31:03,100
that was new to me. It's

7510
03:31:03,100 --> 03:31:05,100
citizen led and therefore,

7511
03:31:05,100 --> 03:31:06,100
in my personal opinion, it's

7512
03:31:06,100 --> 03:31:08,100
not something that city council

7513
03:31:08,100 --> 03:31:09,100
members should be getting

7514
03:31:09,100 --> 03:31:10,100
in the middle of. When council

7515
03:31:10,100 --> 03:31:12,100
agreed to release that 675

7516
03:31:12,100 --> 03:31:14,100
from the sale of the

7517
03:31:14,100 --> 03:31:16,100
Sheraton, it was to hold

7518
03:31:16,100 --> 03:31:17,100
Advanced Reading over and, and

7519
03:31:17,100 --> 03:31:19,100
to keep the doors open. But

7520
03:31:19,100 --> 03:31:21,100
with this new information,

7521
03:31:21,100 --> 03:31:24,100
I would like to revisit the

7522
03:31:24,100 --> 03:31:25,100
item and explore any sort

7523
03:31:25,100 --> 03:31:27,100
of alternative of options.

7524
03:31:27,100 --> 03:31:29,100
Does anybody have any

7525
03:31:29,100 --> 03:31:31,100
consideration?

7526
03:31:31,100 --> 03:31:33,100
>> Well, it's not,

7527
03:31:33,100 --> 03:31:35,100
it's not as easy as that. The

7528
03:31:35,100 --> 03:31:38,100
lease agreements and the grant

7529
03:31:39,100 --> 03:31:41,100
agreements have all been signed

7530
03:31:41,100 --> 03:31:43,100
and are in the hands

7531
03:31:43,100 --> 03:31:45,100
of advanced reading. So Mr.

7532
03:31:45,100 --> 03:31:47,100
Curtis, can you enlighten us a

7533
03:31:47,100 --> 03:31:49,100
little bit?

7534
03:31:49,100 --> 03:31:50,100
>> Yeah.

7535
03:31:50,100 --> 03:31:52,100
>> So if you want, I,

7536
03:31:52,100 --> 03:31:54,100
I can't tell you off the top

7537
03:31:54,100 --> 03:31:56,100
of my head, you know, what the

7538
03:31:56,100 --> 03:31:57,100
terms might be and whether

7539
03:31:57,100 --> 03:31:59,100
there might be termination

7540
03:31:59,100 --> 03:32:00,100
clauses or anything that might

7541
03:32:00,100 --> 03:32:02,100
allow for anything

7542
03:32:02,100 --> 03:32:03,100
to be recouped. If you wanted

7543
03:32:03,100 --> 03:32:04,100
an item to come back, you know,

7544
03:32:04,100 --> 03:32:06,100
we could take a look at that,

7545
03:32:06,100 --> 03:32:08,100
give you the analysis. It's

7546
03:32:08,100 --> 03:32:09,100
possible that the answer is

7547
03:32:09,100 --> 03:32:11,100
that there's not really much

7548
03:32:11,100 --> 03:32:12,100
you can do, but you know, we,

7549
03:32:12,100 --> 03:32:13,100
if that's what the council

7550
03:32:13,100 --> 03:32:15,100
would like to look at, we could

7551
03:32:15,100 --> 03:32:16,100
certainly do that and bring it

7552
03:32:16,100 --> 03:32:17,100
back to you. Other option is,

7553
03:32:17,100 --> 03:32:19,100
if you'd like,

7554
03:32:19,100 --> 03:32:20,100
I can simply do that analysis,

7555
03:32:20,100 --> 03:32:21,100
give it

7556
03:32:21,100 --> 03:32:23,100
to you and you could bring

7557
03:32:23,100 --> 03:32:24,100
Forward another item 12 if you

7558
03:32:24,100 --> 03:32:25,100
felt it was appropriate

7559
03:32:25,100 --> 03:32:26,100
at that time. Downside would be

7560
03:32:26,100 --> 03:32:28,100
there probably a little bit

7561
03:32:28,100 --> 03:32:29,100
more delay,

7562
03:32:29,100 --> 03:32:31,100
so there's possibility of more

7563
03:32:31,100 --> 03:32:32,100
expenditure and more loss if

7564
03:32:32,100 --> 03:32:33,100
that is the case.

7565
03:32:33,100 --> 03:32:34,100
>> So just, just

7566
03:32:34,100 --> 03:32:35,100
for your information, factual

7567
03:32:35,100 --> 03:32:37,100
information, it was executed

7568
03:32:37,100 --> 03:32:38,100
on September 8, so it's been

7569
03:32:38,100 --> 03:32:40,100
in effect

7570
03:32:40,100 --> 03:32:41,100
for a little while and it has a

7571
03:32:41,100 --> 03:32:42,100
30 day cancellation clause

7572
03:32:42,100 --> 03:32:44,100
states that if the council were

7573
03:32:44,100 --> 03:32:45,100
to do that after 30 days,

7574
03:32:45,100 --> 03:32:46,100
whatever money has not been

7575
03:32:46,100 --> 03:32:48,100
spent could be returned. So in

7576
03:32:48,100 --> 03:32:49,100
effect they could have spent it

7577
03:32:49,100 --> 03:32:52,100
all and you could have zero

7578
03:32:52,100 --> 03:32:54,100
back. So I just put that as

7579
03:32:54,100 --> 03:32:55,100
information as you decide

7580
03:32:55,100 --> 03:32:58,100
whether consensus to bring it

7581
03:32:58,100 --> 03:33:00,401
back exists or not.

7582
03:33:02,100 --> 03:33:04,100
>> Was it

7583
03:33:04,100 --> 03:33:05,100
on a reimbursement or was it.

7584
03:33:05,100 --> 03:33:06,100
Did they get the full amount? I

7585
03:33:06,100 --> 03:33:07,100
thought they were had

7586
03:33:07,100 --> 03:33:08,100
to submit.

7587
03:33:08,100 --> 03:33:09,100
>> They got the full amount.

7588
03:33:09,100 --> 03:33:10,100
>> Oh, they got the full

7589
03:33:10,100 --> 03:33:11,100
amount, yeah. I would love to

7590
03:33:11,100 --> 03:33:14,100
know what our options are and I

7591
03:33:14,100 --> 03:33:15,100
would likely.

7592
03:33:15,100 --> 03:33:16,100
>> I.

7593
03:33:16,100 --> 03:33:18,100
>> Would like

7594
03:33:18,100 --> 03:33:21,100
to know what our sort of

7595
03:33:21,100 --> 03:33:22,100
financial options are here and

7596
03:33:22,100 --> 03:33:24,100
moving forward because I think

7597
03:33:24,100 --> 03:33:25,100
that it is highly likely that

7598
03:33:25,100 --> 03:33:26,100
the city is going

7599
03:33:26,100 --> 03:33:28,100
to need that money

7600
03:33:28,100 --> 03:33:29,100
to shutter the Civic. And so

7601
03:33:29,100 --> 03:33:30,100
whether or not they would be

7602
03:33:30,100 --> 03:33:31,100
willing

7603
03:33:31,100 --> 03:33:32,100
to have those conversations

7604
03:33:32,100 --> 03:33:33,100
with us now while they've

7605
03:33:33,100 --> 03:33:35,100
potentially not used all

7606
03:33:35,100 --> 03:33:36,100
of that money then.

7607
03:33:36,100 --> 03:33:38,100
>> Yeah. So if there's a

7608
03:33:38,100 --> 03:33:39,100
consensus

7609
03:33:39,100 --> 03:33:40,100
on the council council

7610
03:33:40,100 --> 03:33:41,100
to bring that back, I think we

7611
03:33:41,100 --> 03:33:42,100
can arrange that and obviously

7612
03:33:42,100 --> 03:33:44,100
let advance ready know.

7613
03:33:44,100 --> 03:33:45,100
>> So I'm not in favor. I think

7614
03:33:45,100 --> 03:33:46,100
it's highly likely the money's

7615
03:33:46,100 --> 03:33:47,100
gonna be spent

7616
03:33:47,100 --> 03:33:48,100
by the time it could come back.

7617
03:33:48,100 --> 03:33:49,100
Which means we're opening up a

7618
03:33:49,100 --> 03:33:50,100
can of worms

7619
03:33:50,100 --> 03:33:52,100
of discussion that in the

7620
03:33:52,100 --> 03:33:54,100
reality we might have given

7621
03:33:54,100 --> 03:33:56,100
them the money anyways had

7622
03:33:56,100 --> 03:33:58,100
they, had we known they donated

7623
03:33:58,100 --> 03:34:00,100
the money just because the fact

7624
03:34:00,100 --> 03:34:03,100
that they support the sales tax

7625
03:34:03,100 --> 03:34:05,401
initiative means sure, they're

7626
03:34:06,100 --> 03:34:09,100
on life support, they're doing

7627
03:34:09,100 --> 03:34:10,100
everything they can to keep the

7628
03:34:10,100 --> 03:34:12,100
doors open and they need,

7629
03:34:12,100 --> 03:34:13,100
from their perspective, they

7630
03:34:13,100 --> 03:34:14,100
need the sales tax initiative

7631
03:34:14,100 --> 03:34:15,100
and so can't complain so much

7632
03:34:15,100 --> 03:34:16,100
that they donated money

7633
03:34:16,100 --> 03:34:18,100
to something for,

7634
03:34:18,100 --> 03:34:19,100
for their own survival. But yet

7635
03:34:19,100 --> 03:34:20,100
this money that has been fused

7636
03:34:20,100 --> 03:34:22,100
is still going towards their

7637
03:34:22,100 --> 03:34:24,100
operating expenses. I don't

7638
03:34:24,100 --> 03:34:28,100
know if I would have, I don't

7639
03:34:28,100 --> 03:34:31,100
know what we would have done

7640
03:34:31,100 --> 03:34:33,100
differently,

7641
03:34:33,100 --> 03:34:36,100
but I think the money is going

7642
03:34:36,100 --> 03:34:38,100
to be all spent and maybe,

7643
03:34:38,100 --> 03:34:39,100
maybe can, maybe it could come

7644
03:34:39,100 --> 03:34:41,100
back if we confirm there's

7645
03:34:41,100 --> 03:34:42,100
still money that we could take

7646
03:34:42,100 --> 03:34:43,100
back. But we would have to. If

7647
03:34:43,100 --> 03:34:46,100
we find out that the money has

7648
03:34:46,100 --> 03:34:47,100
already been all spent

7649
03:34:47,100 --> 03:34:48,100
in and we're not going

7650
03:34:48,100 --> 03:34:49,100
to do anything, I don't know if

7651
03:34:49,100 --> 03:34:50,100
that would be worth coming

7652
03:34:50,100 --> 03:34:51,100
back.

7653
03:34:51,100 --> 03:34:52,100
>> Would you entertain? Go

7654
03:34:52,100 --> 03:34:54,100
ahead. Oh, well, if, if it's

7655
03:34:54,100 --> 03:34:55,100
defined, I mean, along

7656
03:34:55,100 --> 03:34:57,100
with what Mike said, like.

7657
03:34:57,100 --> 03:35:00,100
Yes, but. And then if it comes

7658
03:35:00,100 --> 03:35:01,100
back and it's already been

7659
03:35:01,100 --> 03:35:03,100
spent, then we have

7660
03:35:03,100 --> 03:35:05,100
to have that conversation.

7661
03:35:05,100 --> 03:35:06,100
>> So if you wanted to Take any

7662
03:35:06,100 --> 03:35:08,100
action. Essentially, you need

7663
03:35:08,100 --> 03:35:11,100
to tell us now that you want us

7664
03:35:11,100 --> 03:35:12,100
to put that

7665
03:35:12,100 --> 03:35:14,100
on a future agenda. It could be

7666
03:35:14,100 --> 03:35:15,100
that when we bring that

7667
03:35:15,100 --> 03:35:17,100
forward,

7668
03:35:17,100 --> 03:35:18,100
the money's been spent. It

7669
03:35:18,100 --> 03:35:19,100
could be that when we bring it

7670
03:35:19,100 --> 03:35:20,100
forward,

7671
03:35:20,100 --> 03:35:21,100
you do have options and.

7672
03:35:21,100 --> 03:35:22,100
Yeah, we just can't tell you

7673
03:35:22,100 --> 03:35:23,100
that.

7674
03:35:23,100 --> 03:35:24,100
>> Yeah, that's.

7675
03:35:24,100 --> 03:35:25,100
>> Would you want that

7676
03:35:25,100 --> 03:35:26,100
to come back if they find out

7677
03:35:26,100 --> 03:35:27,100
that they've already spent all

7678
03:35:27,100 --> 03:35:30,100
the money and they just pull

7679
03:35:30,100 --> 03:35:31,100
the item from the agenda? Or do

7680
03:35:31,100 --> 03:35:32,100
you want it to come back no

7681
03:35:32,100 --> 03:35:33,100
matter what?

7682
03:35:33,100 --> 03:35:34,100
>> I don't think that we have

7683
03:35:34,100 --> 03:35:35,100
the. It sounds

7684
03:35:35,100 --> 03:35:36,100
like that if there happened

7685
03:35:36,100 --> 03:35:37,100
to be options. Options, we

7686
03:35:37,100 --> 03:35:38,100
would need it to be

7687
03:35:38,100 --> 03:35:39,100
on an agenda to be able

7688
03:35:39,100 --> 03:35:40,100
to discuss it in the 30 days.

7689
03:35:40,100 --> 03:35:41,100
Within the 30 days. So that is

7690
03:35:41,100 --> 03:35:42,100
my suggestion or request is

7691
03:35:42,100 --> 03:35:43,100
could we put it

7692
03:35:43,100 --> 03:35:44,100
on as an agenda item to discuss

7693
03:35:44,100 --> 03:35:45,100
what our options are? It may be

7694
03:35:45,100 --> 03:35:46,100
that we have zero options.

7695
03:35:46,100 --> 03:35:47,100
In which case,

7696
03:35:47,100 --> 03:35:48,100
I suppose staff could pull it

7697
03:35:48,100 --> 03:35:50,100
from agenda or something. We

7698
03:35:50,100 --> 03:35:52,100
get edits.

7699
03:35:52,100 --> 03:35:53,100
>> I. Yeah.

7700
03:35:53,100 --> 03:35:55,100
>> So is that a consensus?

7701
03:35:55,100 --> 03:35:56,100
>> I, I would be fine as long

7702
03:35:56,100 --> 03:35:59,100
as we pull the item. If we find

7703
03:35:59,100 --> 03:36:00,100
out there's no recourse and

7704
03:36:00,100 --> 03:36:01,100
there's you, you,

7705
03:36:01,100 --> 03:36:02,100
you confirm.

7706
03:36:02,100 --> 03:36:04,100
>> I, I would encourage you to

7707
03:36:04,100 --> 03:36:05,100
actually be more definitive

7708
03:36:05,100 --> 03:36:06,100
because, you know, there,

7709
03:36:06,100 --> 03:36:08,401
there's just a lot

7710
03:36:09,100 --> 03:36:10,100
of squish there.

7711
03:36:10,100 --> 03:36:12,100
>> Maybe it would be.

7712
03:36:12,100 --> 03:36:13,100
>> Staff would just bring it

7713
03:36:13,100 --> 03:36:14,100
back. I don't think we would

7714
03:36:14,100 --> 03:36:15,100
pull it once the council said

7715
03:36:15,100 --> 03:36:16,100
bring it.

7716
03:36:16,100 --> 03:36:17,100
>> Maybe that would be a. It

7717
03:36:17,100 --> 03:36:18,100
could just be informational.

7718
03:36:18,100 --> 03:36:19,100
Only if we find out that we

7719
03:36:19,100 --> 03:36:21,100
don't have any options, then

7720
03:36:21,100 --> 03:36:22,100
the report is we have no

7721
03:36:22,100 --> 03:36:23,100
options.

7722
03:36:23,100 --> 03:36:24,100
>> Yeah, I think what we would

7723
03:36:24,100 --> 03:36:26,100
probably couch it as, you know,

7724
03:36:26,100 --> 03:36:27,100
receive the report and provide

7725
03:36:27,100 --> 03:36:29,100
direction to staff so that the

7726
03:36:29,100 --> 03:36:30,100
council can just decide what

7727
03:36:30,100 --> 03:36:31,100
you wish to do if.

7728
03:36:31,100 --> 03:36:32,100
>> No options.

7729
03:36:32,100 --> 03:36:34,100
>> Yeah.

7730
03:36:34,100 --> 03:36:36,100
>> And what's the date for 30

7731
03:36:36,100 --> 03:36:37,100
days?

7732
03:36:37,100 --> 03:36:39,100
>> Well, so 30 days is your

7733
03:36:39,100 --> 03:36:40,100
term clause. So, so, so what is

7734
03:36:40,100 --> 03:36:41,100
that date?

7735
03:36:41,100 --> 03:36:42,100
>> I believe 30 days notice.

7736
03:36:42,100 --> 03:36:43,100
So from the date that you gave

7737
03:36:43,100 --> 03:36:44,100
notice, it would be 30 days

7738
03:36:44,100 --> 03:36:45,100
after that. Right. So

7739
03:36:45,100 --> 03:36:46,100
at which point.

7740
03:36:46,100 --> 03:36:47,100
>> No, if you did. October 7th

7741
03:36:47,100 --> 03:36:48,100
as a termination,

7742
03:36:48,100 --> 03:36:50,100
it would be expired 30 days

7743
03:36:50,100 --> 03:36:51,100
front then in November.

7744
03:36:51,100 --> 03:36:52,100
>> So.

7745
03:36:52,100 --> 03:36:53,100
>> Oh, oh, oh. So it's, it'll

7746
03:36:53,100 --> 03:36:54,100
be, it'll be a contract

7747
03:36:54,100 --> 03:36:55,100
for two months. It will have

7748
03:36:55,100 --> 03:36:57,100
been a contract from September

7749
03:36:57,100 --> 03:36:59,100
8th to November 7th.

7750
03:36:59,100 --> 03:37:00,100
>> Gotcha.

7751
03:37:00,100 --> 03:37:02,100
>> Okay, so we'll,

7752
03:37:03,100 --> 03:37:06,100
we'll agendize that, won't you,

7753
03:37:07,100 --> 03:37:09,100
Steve?

7754
03:37:13,100 --> 03:37:14,100
>> Yes.

7755
03:37:14,100 --> 03:37:15,100
>> Thank you, Steve. Yes. I

7756
03:37:15,100 --> 03:37:16,000
don't have anything else.