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[1:58] » Commissioner Altstepper for Armstrong
[2:02] >> here.
[2:03] » here.
[2:03] >> Commissioner Arri
[2:04] » Commissioner Arri
[2:04] >> here.
[2:06] » here.
[2:06] >> Commissioner Bernal
[2:07] » Commissioner Bernal
[2:07] >> here.
[2:08] » here.
[2:08] >> Commissioner Bergus
[2:09] » Commissioner Bergus
[2:09] >> here.
[2:09] » here.
[2:10] >> Commissioner Carlson
[2:11] » Commissioner Carlson
[2:11] >> here.
[2:12] » here.
[2:12] >> Commissioner Kelly
[2:13] » Commissioner Kelly
[2:13] >> here.
[2:13] » here.
[2:13] >> Commissioner/Representative Noak
[2:15] » Commissioner/Representative Noak
[2:15] >> here.
[2:17] » here.
[2:17] >> Commissioner O'Brier
[2:18] » Commissioner O'Brier
[2:18] >> here. Commissioner Xavier
[2:20] » here. Commissioner Xavier
[2:20] >> here.
[2:21] » here.
[2:21] >> Vice Chair G
[2:22] » Vice Chair G
[2:22] >> here.
[2:23] » here.
[2:23] >> Chair Meadows
[2:24] » Chair Meadows
[2:24] >> here.
[2:25] » here.
[2:25] >> Representative Anderson
[2:26] » Representative Anderson
[2:26] >> here.
[2:27] » here.
[2:27] >> Representative Alt Ren for Foley
[2:29] » Representative Alt Ren for Foley
[2:29] >> here.
[2:30] » here.
[2:30] >> Representative Worth
[2:31] » Representative Worth
[2:31] >> here. Okay,
[2:32] » here. Okay,
[2:32] >> we do have a quorum and everyone
[2:33] » we do have a quorum and everyone
[2:33] present.
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[3:15] The next item on the agenda is public
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[3:48] >> That concludes public comment. We do not
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[3:53] We'll now move to the next item on the
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[4:13] Terry, do we have any written or in
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[4:17] >> We do not have any public comment.
[4:19] » We do not have any public comment.
[4:19] >> Do I have a motion and second?
[4:22] » Do I have a motion and second?
[4:22] >> Move the consent calendar.
[4:23] » Move the consent calendar.
[4:23] >> Second.
[4:24] » Second.
[4:24] >> Second.
[4:30] » Terry, could you call uh do roll call
[4:33] vote, please? Commissioner Arnich.
[4:36] >> I.
[4:36] » I.
[4:36] >> Commissioner Bernol.
[4:37] » Commissioner Bernol.
[4:38] >> Yes.
[4:38] » Yes.
[4:38] >> Commissioner Bergus.
[4:39] » Commissioner Bergus.
[4:39] >> Yes.
[4:40] » Yes.
[4:40] >> Commissioner Carlson.
[4:41] » Commissioner Carlson.
[4:41] >> Yes.
[4:42] » Yes.
[4:42] >> Commissioner Kelly.
[4:43] » Commissioner Kelly.
[4:43] >> Yes.
[4:43] » Yes.
[4:43] >> Commissioner Noak.
[4:44] » Commissioner Noak.
[4:44] >> Yes.
[4:45] » Yes.
[4:45] >> Commissioner O'Brier.
[4:47] » Commissioner O'Brier.
[4:47] >> Yes.
[4:48] » Yes.
[4:48] >> Commissioner Altstepper.
[4:50] » Commissioner Altstepper.
[4:50] >> Yes.
[4:51] » Yes.
[4:51] >> Commissioner Xavier.
[4:52] » Commissioner Xavier.
[4:52] >> Hi.
[4:53] » Hi.
[4:53] >> Vice Chair G.
[4:54] » Vice Chair G.
[4:54] >> Yes.
[4:55] » Yes.
[4:55] >> Chair Meadows.
[4:56] » Chair Meadows.
[4:56] >> Yes.
[4:56] » Yes.
[4:56] >> Motion passes unanimously.
[4:58] » Motion passes unanimously.
[4:58] >> Thank you, Terry.
[5:01] First item, uh, regular calendar. The
[5:04] first item is an action item from the
[5:05] administration and project committee to
[5:08] be presented by Andy Dillard seeking
[5:10] approval to award construction contract
[5:12] number 728 with DC Electric Group and
[5:16] authorize the executive director to
[5:18] designate or design to enter in
[5:21] agreements and execute purchase orders
[5:23] to procure equipment and software for
[5:25] the town of Danville intelligent
[5:27] transportation systems
[5:29] [clears throat] traffic signal
[5:30] monitoriization project.
[5:47] Thank you, Chair Meadows. Good evening,
[5:49] commissioners. It's my pleasure to
[5:51] present this item to you this evening uh
[5:54] to approve a construction contract and
[5:56] authorize uh procurement of equipment
[5:59] for the town of Danville IT traffic
[6:01] signal modernization project. So, as you
[6:04] know, this is uh the first CCTA managed
[6:07] smart signals project in the county.
[6:09] It's one of four. We have of course our
[6:11] larger county smart signals project and
[6:14] we have currently have three federal
[6:16] earmark projects that CCTA will be AAA
[6:20] uh advertise awarding and administering.
[6:23] Um this project is one of course near
[6:25] and dear to my heart as I started uh on
[6:27] the other side of this project at the
[6:29] town of Danville. So very happy to see
[6:31] it come to fruition here. Uh this
[6:34] project it includes upgrading 26 signals
[6:37] along uh the Sycamore Valley Camino
[6:40] Tasahera corridor in the town of
[6:42] Danville. Uh it includes video detection
[6:45] systems, advanced traffic uh signal
[6:48] cabinets um and also intersection
[6:51] analytics that go along with that and
[6:53] then uh a few Ethernet communication
[6:56] switches. Um in total this project
[6:58] includes 78 video detection cameras. Um,
[7:02] as I mentioned, the two ATC traffic
[7:04] signal cabinets, those will be located
[7:06] at uh, Danville's largest intersection,
[7:08] which is Camino Tasahara and Crow Canyon
[7:11] Road, and then also the Sycamore Valley
[7:13] Camino Raone intersection, which is the
[7:16] U intersection in front of the uh, the
[7:18] Sycamore Valley Park and Ride. Um, in
[7:20] total, this project is a $1.29 2 $29
[7:23] million project uh of which there's a
[7:27] million dollars in the community project
[7:29] funding congressional directed spending
[7:32] federal earmark.
[7:34] Here's a look uh at the corridor. Uh
[7:37] it's it's basically 25 intersections
[7:40] that's east of the I680 corridor down
[7:42] Sycamore Valley and Camino Tass and Cro
[7:44] Canyon. And then there's one
[7:46] intersection up in the top left corner
[7:48] that's near the town offices at the
[7:50] intersection of Elsero and Laganda.
[7:55] So you've seen this slide many times
[7:57] before. This is basically the suite of
[7:59] elements that compro that compose the
[8:02] countywide project as well as the
[8:03] Danville earmark conquered earmark and
[8:06] Lamarinda earmark projects. Uh the
[8:08] bottom three elements in the screen are
[8:10] the focus of the Danville earmark. Um
[8:12] the the very bottom left corner there,
[8:15] that's that's a exhibit of uh the no
[8:18] traffic uh video detection systems that
[8:21] are the primary element of this project.
[8:26] As far as advertisement goes, we
[8:28] released in October uh bid submissions
[8:31] were due in December. We tonight before
[8:34] you is a contract award uh pending um
[8:37] approval this evening. we will proceed
[8:39] on to our pre-construction meeting
[8:41] followed by start of construction in
[8:43] March.
[8:45] So in total uh we received six
[8:48] responsive bids with the low bid from DC
[8:51] Electric Group. Uh their their main
[8:53] office is based in Katy but they also
[8:55] have an office here in Pacheco. Um and
[8:59] so we we as I as I mentioned we received
[9:01] six uh qualifying bids which is uh
[9:04] hopefully a good sign for the other the
[9:06] projects uh that are that are uh will be
[9:09] falling behind this one.
[9:12] The other uh element to this project and
[9:15] approval before you this evening is the
[9:17] authorization
[9:19] uh to procure equipment. So as part of
[9:22] the authorization from CALR we received
[9:25] a cost effectiveness of public in uh
[9:28] interest finding which allows CCTA to
[9:31] procure their equipment and provide it
[9:33] as agency furnished. Uh we do this
[9:35] because we want to make sure that uh the
[9:37] equipment we're providing for the
[9:39] project is in line with with Danville's
[9:42] current traffic signal network uh
[9:44] equipment and software. And uh [snorts]
[9:47] concurrently while this project was out
[9:49] to bid, staff gathered specifications.
[9:53] Uh we we uh negotiated prices with the
[9:56] vendors and discussed availability so we
[9:59] could better gauge our construction
[10:01] schedule. Uh in total, the equipment uh
[10:04] and authorization we're requesting this
[10:07] evening is for $790,625.
[10:12] So, as I mentioned, overall schedule,
[10:16] um, construction will start, uh, in the
[10:18] wintertime, uh, of course, in 2026,
[10:21] hopefully by mid-March once we procure
[10:24] the equipment. Um, the cameras will go
[10:26] up first. Uh, there's a shorter lead
[10:29] time on those, followed by the traffic
[10:31] signal cabinets, which will take a
[10:33] little bit longer. That will probably be
[10:36] uh early to midsummer before those are
[10:38] those are uh uh installed. and then
[10:40] we'll be able to close out the project
[10:43] hopefully by the early fall of 26.
[10:47] So again, uh the the action before you
[10:49] is approval of resolution 2603P
[10:53] which will award the construction
[10:54] contract number 728 to DC Electric Group
[10:58] uh for a constru uh total construction
[11:01] allotment of $235,62
[11:04] which includes a 15% contingency. Uh
[11:08] this will authorize executive director
[11:09] or designate to also shift funds between
[11:11] construction allotment categories uh as
[11:14] long as the expenditures do not exceed
[11:16] the total amount. And finally authorize
[11:18] executive director or designate into
[11:21] agreements and execute purchase orders
[11:23] with various vendors for the said uh
[11:25] amount of 790625
[11:28] to procure the equipment and software.
[11:30] Uh so with that I'd be happy to answer
[11:33] any questions.
[11:34] >> Thank you Andy. Are there any comments
[11:36] » Thank you Andy. Are there any comments
[11:36] from the authority board?
[11:38] >> I have a question.
[11:39] » I have a question.
[11:39] >> Vice Chair
[11:51] Andy, thank you very much. Um, I have my
[11:54] question for you is um are we as CCTA
[11:59] staff going to have some kind of a um a
[12:04] kind of a formalized lessons learned? Um
[12:08] um I guess I want to say you know uh
[12:12] docu you know um
[12:15] yeah but well as this progresses because
[12:18] we have so much more of it coming up I I
[12:20] want to make I want to make sure that we
[12:23] all get to take maximum advantage of
[12:25] what you learn as you go along the way
[12:27] given how much more is coming down the
[12:29] pike. So I guess I'm curious as to
[12:31] whether you have all thought about you
[12:33] know some kind of formalized system of
[12:36] you know lessons learned.
[12:39] >> Thank you for the question commissioner.
[12:41] » Thank you for the question commissioner.
[12:41] So that's an excellent question. So
[12:43] first I'll speak informally to that. So,
[12:45] as we've been developing the countywide
[12:47] smart signal projects and as we've been
[12:50] moving through the design of this
[12:52] project, we've been discussing on how to
[12:55] improve um and to be more efficient with
[12:58] how we manage these. Um but on the
[13:01] formal level um that's something that uh
[13:04] we haven't talked about to this point
[13:05] but we can certainly uh we'd be happy to
[13:08] bring a report back to the board um once
[13:11] this project is completed to to share
[13:13] that uh with the board with lessons
[13:15] learned.
[13:16] >> Yeah, I I think it would, you know, has
[13:18] » Yeah, I I think it would, you know, has
[13:18] the potential to have real value um as
[13:21] especially as we move into conquered and
[13:23] Lamarinda and the other parts of the
[13:25] county. um a as you build that data over
[13:29] each contract, it seems like that could
[13:31] be very very helpful.
[13:35] » Commissioner Oberinger,
[13:37] >> thank you. Thank you for your
[13:38] » thank you. Thank you for your
[13:38] presentation and I did read through the
[13:41] staff report and I did hear this is the
[13:43] first of several projects and so I think
[13:46] the context that I'm missing because I
[13:48] know this goes all the way back to the
[13:49] town of Danville getting awarded um the
[13:52] federal grant. So, could you just help
[13:55] me understand what the process is for um
[13:58] for a city or a region to be able to to
[14:02] participate in this? Do they have to get
[14:04] a federal grant? And then what is the
[14:06] what is the value ad that CCTA is
[14:09] providing as opposed to a city or region
[14:11] going it alone?
[14:14] >> Great. Thanks for the question,
[14:15] » Great. Thanks for the question,
[14:15] Commissioner Oberinger. So, very good
[14:17] question. So with this Danville earmark,
[14:20] uh the earmark was actually pursued by
[14:22] the town and it was initially awarded to
[14:25] the town. Um once it was awarded, CCTA
[14:29] uh approached the town to offer their
[14:31] assistance. Uh we didn't reach out to
[14:33] them, they reached out to us. That's
[14:35] when I was sitting in my other seat. So
[14:37] I remember the the day I got the call.
[14:38] So and we were we were certainly happy
[14:40] to do that. uh in the instance of the
[14:42] Lamarinda and conquered ear marks, I
[14:45] believe that was more of a collaboration
[14:48] with CCTA to help procure uh those
[14:50] earmarks as well as the countywide
[14:52] signal project which of course CCTA was
[14:55] the lead applicant for uh the the CMAC
[14:58] OBAC funds. So, it's kind of a hybrid of
[15:01] those things. But uh I think uh with the
[15:04] countywide success of that project and
[15:07] then the law mora and conquer projects I
[15:10] think that's what led CCTA to approach
[15:12] the town and say hey we have these other
[15:14] projects why don't we you know uh we
[15:16] have this effort we can help you deliver
[15:18] this federal project and the value it
[15:20] adds definitely for the locals is that
[15:22] because these are federalized um there's
[15:25] there's a bigger lift to deliver these
[15:27] projects so there there's there's just a
[15:29] ton of value for CCTA to to assist with
[15:32] that. And uh again, the countywide
[15:35] project, you know, is basically it
[15:37] encompasses everything that you see in
[15:39] these earmark projects. It's all
[15:41] basically the same thing that we're
[15:43] trying to do and accomplish. So, uh from
[15:45] an efficiency standpoint, it's kind of
[15:47] really a no-brainer for for what CCTA is
[15:49] doing and and uh I think the locals are
[15:52] very appreciative of the staff level of
[15:55] of the help.
[15:58] >> Thank you. Just Commissioner Ober, if I
[15:59] » Thank you. Just Commissioner Ober, if I
[15:59] can just add because the the Danville,
[16:02] the Conquered, and even Pittsburgh got
[16:04] one. We just recently got another one
[16:06] for um Antioch and Oakley. And then we
[16:10] also um got the one for Lamarinda. And
[16:13] all of these are community benefit
[16:16] projects from Mark Donier, from
[16:19] Congressman Mark Don. So, so Congressman
[16:22] Mark Donier approached CCTA about like,
[16:25] you know, what are some of the things
[16:25] you're seeing in terms of priorities?
[16:27] and and so we started discussing to him,
[16:30] you know, safety at intersections and
[16:32] started talking to him about these smart
[16:34] signals and and Congressman Donia has
[16:37] been very very passionate about these
[16:39] projects and these earmarks um these
[16:41] community benefit projects and so we've
[16:43] been he's been actually working with
[16:45] CCTA to kind of prioritize and and how
[16:48] we can benefit all his all the
[16:50] communities within his region within his
[16:52] district for these for these smart
[16:54] signal community benefit projects. And
[16:56] so, um, so we're currently talking to
[16:58] Mark right now in terms of like what the
[17:00] next, you know, project is going to look
[17:02] like. And so, um, we were literally in
[17:04] DC last week actually having that
[17:06] conversation to kind of see what the
[17:08] what's going to be the next city that
[17:09] would be interested in doing these smart
[17:10] signal projects. So, it's really
[17:12] Congressman Mark Donier. I mean, we
[17:14] really need to give a shout out to him
[17:15] because he's the one that's been really
[17:16] pushing and sponsoring, you know, all of
[17:19] these projects. So,
[17:22] >> Commissioner Arri U, thank you. Um,
[17:25] » Commissioner Arri U, thank you. Um,
[17:25] Andy, it's it's great to see this going
[17:27] forward. We just as Danville, we just
[17:29] happen to be a little further ahead
[17:30] because we got the grant earlier. Um,
[17:33] but what's really important is CCTA's
[17:35] role is that they are designing and
[17:39] they're going to make sure that all
[17:40] these systems, if we do these all
[17:42] individually, guess what's going to
[17:44] happen? They're going to have 19
[17:46] different systems that don't talk to
[17:47] each other. So, that's really important.
[17:49] The secondly is the design team moves
[17:52] from project to project to project. So
[17:54] the lessons learned in all of those, we
[17:57] also, it's a little easier in our
[17:59] community because we had some empty
[18:00] conduits that got put in a long time
[18:02] ago. So to deploy it, we can get to it
[18:05] faster and we're going to be the guinea
[18:08] pig. So whatever we figure out in that
[18:10] and Andy and the team. Um so yeah, and
[18:14] that's that's okay. Um but I know you
[18:17] know the theory you got one throw the
[18:18] choke, it's I know where he sits. Um, I
[18:21] think this is really a great project and
[18:24] I don't think as a CTA board members we
[18:27] ever thought it would actually go this
[18:29] fast to get this many cities and
[18:32] actually make this connectivity. This
[18:34] was all theory. So, this is really cool
[18:38] and Mark Don needs a huge credit for
[18:41] this, but um, this is probably one of
[18:43] the best technology things we have on
[18:45] the table that's real
[18:47] and I'd be glad to make a motion when
[18:48] you get to it.
[18:50] >> [clears throat]
[18:50] » [clears throat]
[18:50] >> Representative Anderson.
[18:52] » Representative Anderson.
[18:52] >> Thank you. Um, so Andy, obviously this
[18:55] » Thank you. Um, so Andy, obviously this
[18:55] is in collaboration with the town of
[18:57] Danville. Each city sort of has their
[18:59] own standards of hours of construction,
[19:03] you know, especially these are all going
[19:05] into major major roads. So, are
[19:09] [clears throat] we going to let each
[19:11] city sort of set the construction hours
[19:13] so as to not conflict with school drop
[19:16] offs? And and again, I'm not just saying
[19:18] it because I go through the big
[19:20] intersection multiple times a day and
[19:22] down Sycamore Valley Road and Commino
[19:24] Tasahara, but but the reality is that a
[19:27] construction project timed at the wrong
[19:28] time would be a nightmare for any city.
[19:32] >> Absolutely. Thank you, Commissioner
[19:33] » Absolutely. Thank you, Commissioner
[19:33] Anderson, for the question. So, all
[19:35] these projects will follow the city's uh
[19:38] construction guidelines and and rules
[19:40] and regulations for hours of work. No,
[19:42] no question. So even though CCTA is
[19:45] managing and administering the project,
[19:47] it's still still the locals's uh final
[19:50] call on when and where we can work. So
[19:52] okay,
[19:53] >> special events, all those things.
[19:55] » special events, all those things.
[19:55] >> Appreciate that. Thank you.
[19:56] » Appreciate that. Thank you.
[19:56] >> Any other comments?
[20:00] » Any other comments?
[20:00] Is there any public comments on this
[20:02] item? Mr. Olsen?
[20:06] >> Yes, Bruce Olsen.
[20:10] » Yes, Bruce Olsen.
[20:10] >> Thank you. Is this working?
[20:12] » Thank you. Is this working?
[20:12] >> Yes.
[20:12] » Yes.
[20:12] >> Thank you. Good evening. I am Bruce
[20:13] » Thank you. Good evening. I am Bruce
[20:13] Olsen, East County's Mr. Bicycle.
[20:18] Contraosta County's bicycle community
[20:21] wishes to be assured that this traffic
[20:24] signal detection system is responsive to
[20:27] bicycles. Not only this Danville
[20:30] project, but throughout the entire
[20:32] county as you build it out. The
[20:35] bicyclist does not want to have to get
[20:38] off the bicycle and go over to the
[20:41] signal pole and push the pedestrian
[20:44] button. [clears throat]
[20:45] Uh we we expect that most of these uh uh
[20:51] the construction of these intersections
[20:53] are going to be on arterial streets and
[20:56] most already have bicycle lanes anyway.
[21:00] Thank you very much.
[21:01] >> Thank you, Mr. Olsson. Any other uh
[21:07] » Thank you, Mr. Olsson. Any other uh
[21:07] com public comments?
[21:15] » We have no additional public comment.
[21:18] Commissioner Stepper,
[21:20] >> I just wanted to follow up what Bruce
[21:21] » I just wanted to follow up what Bruce
[21:22] Olsson was saying because, you know, the
[21:24] first part of it is that it's going to
[21:25] detect all modes for pedestrians,
[21:27] bicycles, and vehicles, and we have long
[21:29] wanted to measure those separately for
[21:32] safety and to go towards a zero vision.
[21:35] So, thank you,
[21:36] >> Commissioner Honor. Do we have a motion?
[21:38] » Commissioner Honor. Do we have a motion?
[21:38] Um, some
[21:41] >> I'm sorry, she had a comment.
[21:42] » I'm sorry, she had a comment.
[21:42] >> I think you had a comment to uh respond,
[21:45] » I think you had a comment to uh respond,
[21:45] so I wanted to give you a chance.
[21:49] So I was I was happy for the question
[21:51] because that is a very important part of
[21:53] the video detection systems. Uh bikes,
[21:56] pedestrians, vehicles, these are
[21:58] advanced traffic video and radar
[22:01] detection systems. So not only do they
[22:03] do all that and detect, but they also
[22:05] give you the information and the data
[22:06] back so you can analyze near miss
[22:09] collisions, speeds, uh volumes, all
[22:13] those things. So that's just a a a
[22:16] another benefit of these uh these
[22:18] systems. So yeah,
[22:20] >> good point. Very good point.
[22:21] » good point. Very good point.
[22:21] >> Try it again.
[22:22] » Try it again.
[22:22] >> Yeah, [clears throat] I would be
[22:23] » Yeah, [clears throat] I would be
[22:23] delighted to move item number 8A
[22:27] um as presented here tonight.
[22:28] >> Is there a second?
[22:29] » Is there a second?
[22:29] >> I'll second that motion.
[22:31] » I'll second that motion.
[22:31] >> Thank you.
[22:32] » Thank you.
[22:32] >> Terry, could you conduct roll call vote,
[22:34] » Terry, could you conduct roll call vote,
[22:34] please?
[22:35] >> Commissioner Arri,
[22:36] » Commissioner Arri,
[22:36] >> I.
[22:37] » I.
[22:37] >> Commissioner Bernol,
[22:38] » Commissioner Bernol,
[22:38] >> yes.
[22:38] » yes.
[22:38] >> Commissioner Bergus,
[22:40] » Commissioner Bergus,
[22:40] >> I.
[22:40] » I.
[22:40] >> Commissioner Carlson,
[22:41] » Commissioner Carlson,
[22:41] >> yes. Commissioner Kelly,
[22:43] » yes. Commissioner Kelly,
[22:43] >> yes.
[22:44] » yes.
[22:44] >> Commissioner Noak,
[22:45] » Commissioner Noak,
[22:45] >> yes.
[22:46] » yes.
[22:46] >> Commissioner O'Berer,
[22:47] » Commissioner O'Berer,
[22:47] >> yes.
[22:48] » yes.
[22:48] >> Commissioner Altstepper,
[22:50] » Commissioner Altstepper,
[22:50] >> yes.
[22:51] » yes.
[22:51] >> Commissioner Xavier,
[22:53] » Commissioner Xavier,
[22:53] >> hi.
[22:53] » hi.
[22:54] >> Vice Chair G,
[22:55] » Vice Chair G,
[22:55] >> yes.
[22:55] » yes.
[22:55] >> Chair Meadows,
[22:56] » Chair Meadows,
[22:56] >> yes.
[22:56] » yes.
[22:56] >> Motion passes unanimously.
[22:58] » Motion passes unanimously.
[22:58] >> Thank you, Terry.
[23:02] The next item on is an action item to be
[23:05] presented by Tim seeking approval to
[23:07] award agreement number 739 with fair and
[23:10] peers to provide fresh professional
[23:12] services for the development of the
[23:14] transportation expenditure plan and
[23:16] approve resolution 26-04-P
[23:21] to appropriate measure J reserve funds
[23:23] for the development of a new
[23:24] transportation expenditure plan. Mr.
[23:27] Hail.
[23:28] >> Thank you, Chair Meadows. Um very
[23:30] » Thank you, Chair Meadows. Um very
[23:30] excited to present this item to all of
[23:32] you tonight. Um in November at the
[23:35] authority board meeting um we brought to
[23:37] you uh a a team to be able to move and
[23:41] and uh develop the transportation
[23:43] expenditure plan and and you authorized
[23:45] staff to begin negotiations of that
[23:48] contract um with the fair and peers team
[23:50] which was a a team of fair and peers but
[23:53] also multiple subconultants um which
[23:55] I'll uh get into the details here in a
[23:57] minute and we've completed those
[23:59] negotiations um and developed this very
[24:02] robust contract act um to really focus
[24:04] on really three major deliverables as
[24:07] part of the TE development. So um the
[24:11] team is really comprised of fair and
[24:13] peers um that's really going to be doing
[24:15] the overall program management as well
[24:16] as some of the graphics design some of
[24:18] the public engagement outreach um and
[24:20] it'll be very supported by multiple
[24:22] subconultants. Um one of those is Civic
[24:25] Edge. Civic Edge is going to be really
[24:27] focused on the public engagement and
[24:29] more of the um the extensive, you know,
[24:32] going into the public and doing the
[24:34] focus groups and and also doing the the
[24:37] popups and the surveys and all those
[24:40] things and really work with fair and
[24:42] peers and civic edge to be able to
[24:43] deliver on those things. fair and peers
[24:45] is really going to be helping and
[24:46] supporting more on the stakeholder
[24:48] engagement um you know in in support
[24:50] with the staff of CCTA and the other uh
[24:54] subconsultants are uh infra strategies
[24:56] which will be helping and supporting a
[24:58] lot of the governance discussions that
[24:59] we're going to be having as part of the
[25:01] TP including policy development um as
[25:03] well as ordinances and also
[25:06] implementation guides as we think about
[25:09] you know updating our local agency
[25:10] implementation guide updating the growth
[25:12] management program as well as um
[25:15] updating our growth management plan um
[25:18] implementation guide. So all of those
[25:19] things are kind of com in in that
[25:21] governance implementation guide and
[25:22] policy development. Um communication
[25:25] strategy is really going to be led by
[25:27] Clifford Moss um and Tommy Tommy
[25:29] Clifford. Also in support there is going
[25:32] to be Alex Evans um as you're all
[25:34] familiar with Alex Evans. And so that
[25:36] the two of them are going to be really
[25:37] supporting the communication strategy of
[25:39] the TEP and the TEP development as well
[25:41] as the messaging. And then kind of
[25:44] focusing on the actual deliverables
[25:46] themselves. There's really going to be
[25:48] three major deliverables. There's the
[25:49] actual TP which will be focused on
[25:52] really the TE that goes in the voter
[25:53] information guide. So something that
[25:55] like I learned or we learned in the 2020
[25:57] uh measure was you have to pay for every
[26:00] single page you put in the voter
[26:01] information guide. And so you ne don't
[26:04] necessarily want to develop a 3640page
[26:07] transfer expenditure plan. So we need to
[26:09] develop a really concise uh transfer
[26:11] expenditure plan. And then a lot of the
[26:13] ordinances, a lot of the policies, all
[26:15] those things, um, all of the kind of the
[26:18] meat of the of the of the policym,
[26:20] decision-m and the processes would then
[26:22] pro would go into the ordinance that
[26:24] would be approved by the board when we
[26:25] approve the TE. Um, the other major
[26:28] deliverable is uh the associated
[26:30] ordinances and and and implementation
[26:33] guides um to be able to support the the
[26:36] actual TP and implementation of the TEP
[26:37] to make sure we have a successful
[26:38] performance-based program. And that's
[26:41] another big part of this overall scope
[26:43] is as we're evaluating the projects and
[26:45] the programs to make sure that each of
[26:46] the projects and programs in the TEP um
[26:49] are being um really justified through
[26:52] KPIs, goals, metrics, and so there's a
[26:55] lot of time and effort that's put into
[26:57] evaluating, you know, how we're going to
[26:59] evaluate the projects, how we're going
[27:00] to screen the projects, how we're going
[27:01] to select the projects and programs that
[27:03] will get funded by the TE. And then also
[27:05] we're going to develop essentially like
[27:07] a trade-off tool um to be able to
[27:09] demonstrate to you, demonstrate to the
[27:11] public and demonstrate to stakeholders
[27:13] about, you know, when you invest in one
[27:14] thing, what are those trade-offs between
[27:16] some of the other things that may you
[27:18] may want to invest with the TE because
[27:19] there's only going to be a limited
[27:20] amount of funds. And so we need to make
[27:22] sure we're making the best
[27:23] performance-based kind of decisions in
[27:25] terms of funding the TP itself. Um,
[27:28] another big part of this uh in terms of
[27:30] the expenditure plan is also reviewing
[27:32] the governance um of CCTA um and looking
[27:36] at our role of the agency and in in
[27:38] relative to the future of transportation
[27:41] um particularly around things like the
[27:42] share mobility hubs like we've talked
[27:44] about you know bike share programs
[27:46] implementation of you know uh transit
[27:48] programs and student transit programs
[27:50] and those types of things uh expansion
[27:52] of 511 so all of those things and so
[27:54] really kind of looking at governance as
[27:56] part of the expenditure plan. So all of
[27:57] those things are built into this robust
[28:01] contract um that is going to be
[28:03] supported by this team. Now the contract
[28:06] itself will be a two-year overall
[28:08] contract. So um there's basically broken
[28:11] down into three phases at a very high
[28:13] level. Um the first phase is going to be
[28:15] an extensive public engagement. Um
[28:18] really kind of the listening phase
[28:19] that'll start immediately. Um and our
[28:21] goal is to have that listening phase
[28:23] between now and September. um and
[28:26] getting to the public in terms of doing
[28:27] a poll, doing a survey, doing popups, um
[28:31] doing community events and community
[28:33] meetings and then taking that
[28:35] information that listening and starting
[28:37] to develop the draft. And that draft, we
[28:40] would start developing that starting
[28:41] later this year. Um and then as SB63
[28:44] kind of runs its course, we can kind of
[28:46] feed that into the de the development of
[28:49] the framework, the development of the
[28:51] TP. Um and then the next phase of
[28:54] listening would be spring or summer of
[28:56] next year. Um to be able to really
[28:58] confirm the expenditure plan priorities
[29:01] that we've been listening, making sure
[29:02] that we captured those those priorities
[29:04] from the public that we got from the
[29:05] first phase of listening. And then the
[29:07] goal is to have the TP actually approved
[29:09] by November of of 2027. So the overall
[29:13] contract is a two-year contract um to
[29:16] get us to the end of 2027 basically. Um
[29:20] once the TE is approved, you know,
[29:22] considering depending on that's the
[29:24] direction and consideration of the
[29:25] board. Um and in order to get that
[29:27] approval, just as a reminder to
[29:29] everyone, um we do have to get
[29:31] resolutions to support from the majority
[29:33] of the cities with the majority of the
[29:34] population. So there's an extensive
[29:36] effort to really garner coalition
[29:38] building and getting that support behind
[29:40] the transportation expenditure plan. Um
[29:42] so that way the board here will feel
[29:44] confident that this is the right t to
[29:46] bring to the voters. um and then also
[29:48] bring to the board of supervisor who
[29:50] ultimately um gives us the approval to
[29:52] place it on the ballot. Um now the
[29:55] funding for the for this contract um is
[29:58] coming out of the Measure J reserves.
[30:00] And so if you remember about three years
[30:02] ago we created this Measure J reserves
[30:05] program. And so essentially what we
[30:07] started doing was we took um the
[30:10] mid-year budget, so the actual sales tax
[30:13] at the mid-year budget um and compared
[30:15] that to what we actually projected. And
[30:18] so that true up amount based on what we
[30:20] projected and the actual those amounts
[30:22] got put into a reserve. And so that
[30:25] accumulated roughly about $38 million in
[30:29] reserves over the last three years. And
[30:31] we and Brian and the finance team have
[30:33] done an excellent job of categorizing
[30:35] those reserves relative to how and where
[30:37] they would go in the expenditure plan.
[30:39] So we have a very detailed matrix in
[30:42] terms of like how much of those reserves
[30:44] would go to you know program 14 for
[30:46] express bus or or you know for the ferry
[30:48] program etc etc. So all of that has been
[30:52] accounted for and what we have done is
[30:55] because of this program reserve and I
[30:57] will say this has been very intentional
[31:00] um is that we've been able to generate
[31:02] earned interest on that reserve and so
[31:05] the intent is to fund this contract from
[31:07] the earned interest um on the reserves.
[31:11] There's currently 2.8 million in
[31:13] reserves today. Um, and so we would be
[31:16] issuing a limited notice proceed to the
[31:18] fair and peers teams for roughly $2 and
[31:20] half million dollars. And then the goal
[31:22] is as as as we receive more earned
[31:24] interest on the on the reserve starting
[31:26] this year and the following year and the
[31:28] following year after that um Brian and
[31:30] team and I have coordinated and and
[31:32] we're we're anticipating that we'll be
[31:33] able to fund this entire effort from the
[31:35] earned interest um in terms of the c in
[31:38] terms of cash flow right over the next
[31:40] like two to three years. Um and so we're
[31:43] asking the board to approve a
[31:45] resolution. This is the first time that
[31:47] the board has ever taken an action to
[31:49] release funds from this reserves
[31:51] program. Um and so and I think this is
[31:55] one of the eligible um activities based
[31:58] on that reserve policy which is attached
[32:00] to the staff report um to fund this
[32:02] contract. Um, and based on that funding,
[32:07] um, we will be able to continue and
[32:09] hopefully, you know, maintain the
[32:11] program level funding that's been
[32:12] allocated in the in the matrix of the
[32:14] funding that we've been keeping track
[32:15] of. At least that's the goal. Um, what
[32:18] we're asking the board though, I'm
[32:19] giving you a lot of detail about how we
[32:20] would manage the project, how we manage
[32:22] the cash flow, how we manage the
[32:23] contract, but in general, we're asking
[32:25] the board to release the the equivalent
[32:27] amount of the contract amount of the
[32:29] reserves to fund this contract. in terms
[32:31] of the management relative to earned
[32:32] interest and principal. That's something
[32:34] that Brian and I will be very closely
[32:36] watching in terms of managing this
[32:37] contract. Um
[32:40] the next step is I just want to kind of
[32:42] share a little bit of just some of the
[32:43] next costs that might that are going to
[32:45] be that we have to anticipate. Um I've
[32:48] been talking with Amra and we will need
[32:50] legal support, you know, obviously for
[32:52] the TE process. So, her and I have been
[32:54] talking about um getting a task order in
[32:57] place to be able to support the
[32:58] development of these ordinances and and
[33:00] the legal support work that would help.
[33:02] And so, that's that's going to be a
[33:03] cost. And so, I don't have an estimate
[33:05] for you right now, but it's in the
[33:06] sixdigit realm. Um and then the other
[33:09] big cost that's coming down the
[33:11] pipeline, which we won't have a good
[33:12] estimate on that until probably summer
[33:14] of 2028, is the actual cost to place the
[33:17] measure on the ballot. So, um, in 2016
[33:21] that cost was roughly $1.5 million. In
[33:24] 2020, because we had to pay for 36 pages
[33:26] in the voter information guide, which we
[33:27] will never do again, um, that cost was
[33:30] $2.7 million. And so, um, so we're
[33:34] anticipating, you know, somewhere in the
[33:35] ballpark of, you know, $1.5 to $2
[33:38] million. And again, and again, I think
[33:41] we're we're anticipating we'll be able
[33:43] to pay that amount through the earned
[33:44] interest on that third year beyond the
[33:47] beyond the life of this contract, right?
[33:48] Because there's going to be the 2.8
[33:50] million for earned interest is basically
[33:52] as of June 30th of 2025. So, there's got
[33:55] this fiscal year, the next fiscal year,
[33:57] and then another fiscal year beyond
[33:58] that. So, there's going to be three
[33:59] more, you know, anticipated um earned
[34:02] interest earnings on the reserve. And as
[34:05] Brian and I have been talking about,
[34:06] we've been anticipating that we'll be
[34:07] able to cash flow, you know, this entire
[34:09] process through the earned interest. Um,
[34:12] so I want to be really I'm want to be
[34:14] very transparent in terms of how we're
[34:16] funding this contract because I know
[34:17] there's a lot of eyes on this reserve. A
[34:19] lot of stakeholders are interested in
[34:20] this money. Um, and so I want to be
[34:22] really transparent in terms of how we're
[34:24] managing these funds, how we planning on
[34:26] fund this contract. And I think this
[34:27] this contract ultimately is really at
[34:29] the benefit of everyone because without
[34:31] the TP and without this contract, we're
[34:33] not gonna we're not going to move the
[34:35] needle towards getting to an approved
[34:37] TEP which ultimately extends everyone's
[34:39] funding. So, um, that concludes my
[34:42] presentation. Happy to take any
[34:44] questions that you may have about about
[34:46] the about the item.
[34:47] >> Thank you, Tim. Are there any questions
[34:48] » Thank you, Tim. Are there any questions
[34:48] or comments from the authority board?
[34:52] Commissioner Hriidge.
[34:54] >> Um, thanks, Tim. I I think this is
[34:57] » Um, thanks, Tim. I I think this is
[34:57] probably one of the most intelligent
[34:58] solutions that we've had and I'm going
[35:01] all the way back when we did Measure J.
[35:04] Um and I think it's much more
[35:05] transparent than it was in the past and
[35:07] a very clever way to not touch the
[35:10] principal funding. Um the other thing is
[35:14] if you look in Fear and Pur's contract
[35:16] and they list all the the top people
[35:18] that are working on this, there's some
[35:20] pretty pretty impressive names on there.
[35:23] And I think having all of those
[35:27] consultants under the control of one is
[35:30] based on our experiences of the past.
[35:34] Um, and those independent
[35:36] entities had conflicts. So I think this
[35:41] this sets us on a path for a greater
[35:43] chance of high level success.
[35:46] Um, and by the way, if we don't do this,
[35:50] shut the doors,
[35:52] quit fixing roads, quit fixing our
[35:54] projects, our county be completely out.
[35:58] This is a renewal. It's a responsibility
[36:01] we have. We still personally have to go
[36:03] out, form committees, raise money for
[36:06] the campaign and things like that. But
[36:08] as an agency, I think this is probably
[36:10] one of the more responsible
[36:12] um outlines and strategy that we've set
[36:16] forward, which I'm really confident this
[36:18] time. I'm confident in the way we're
[36:20] approaching it. I'm confident in the
[36:22] intelligence of what we're trying to do.
[36:25] We're staying in our lane. We're trying
[36:27] to keep it simple and make sure that a
[36:30] policy is backed up by all those actions
[36:33] necessary. So, um, I I think this is
[36:37] really really a great solution. So,
[36:40] thank you to everybody that's worked on
[36:42] this.
[36:44] >> Commissioner Noak.
[36:46] » Commissioner Noak.
[36:46] >> Yeah, I um, one, I love the simplicity
[36:49] » Yeah, I um, one, I love the simplicity
[36:49] factor because that's the thing I hated
[36:52] the last time. So, um, I think that's
[36:54] super important and hate is probably the
[36:56] accurate word for that. Um uh so on the
[37:00] on the earned interest um by the time
[37:03] the funds are released for this they
[37:06] will have come out of earned interest.
[37:08] So even though it's only 2.8 now before
[37:11] the money is actually released that you
[37:13] expect that that cash flow to be in.
[37:15] >> Yeah. I mean that's the I mean we're
[37:17] » Yeah. I mean that's the I mean we're
[37:17] we're giving fair and peers like limited
[37:19] notice proceeds. So we're we're managing
[37:21] the contract based on the available
[37:23] funds. So, so that's we're going to be
[37:25] very very fiscally responsible in terms
[37:27] of like how we do this.
[37:28] >> Yeah, I was just I wanted to make sure
[37:30] » Yeah, I was just I wanted to make sure
[37:30] that um because that's not that was not
[37:31] clear on the actual recommendation. And
[37:33] the third thing is I I just you know
[37:35] we're talking about going out right away
[37:37] to the public and I think I' I've told
[37:40] said this to you many times but it is
[37:43] concerning because we'll be MTC will be
[37:46] not the citizens initiative will be out
[37:48] for the SB63 ballot and I don't want the
[37:52] public to get confused thinking that the
[37:56] measure they're voting on potentially in
[37:58] November
[38:00] is what's delivering
[38:02] what our consultants are out there
[38:04] talking about now and so because
[38:06] otherwise they will be thinking why am I
[38:09] doing this a second time two years from
[38:10] now. So we've got to figure out a way
[38:13] that that communication is either really
[38:16] clear or it's very controlled so that um
[38:19] there's no confusion and neither ballot
[38:23] measure is impacted. Let's put it that
[38:26] way.
[38:27] >> I just on that point, Commissioner Noak,
[38:29] » I just on that point, Commissioner Noak,
[38:29] I think um the team's very aware of
[38:31] that. Um there's already been meetings
[38:34] and briefings with the consultant for
[38:36] SB63. So I think it to your point like
[38:39] it's going to be really key both for the
[38:42] success of the extension of our measure
[38:45] as well as SB63 that the message is
[38:48] coordinated and and can complement each
[38:50] other and not conflicting with each
[38:52] other. So agreed
[38:55] >> supervisor Bergus.
[38:56] » supervisor Bergus.
[38:56] >> Thank you. Yeah, I I agree Sue. So I
[38:58] » Thank you. Yeah, I I agree Sue. So I
[38:58] think particularly in these times of
[39:00] uncertainty, misinformation,
[39:03] lack of trust, uh to keep it as simple
[39:08] for people to understand what we're
[39:10] doing is really important. One of the
[39:12] things I know we're talking about kind
[39:14] of the process and who's doing what, how
[39:16] we're paying for it, but one thing
[39:18] that's been brought up to me is um the
[39:22] concern about how the RPTAs are
[39:25] participating participating versus the
[39:28] cities and the concerns about regional
[39:31] projects. Um can you talk a little bit
[39:34] about that? It was said, it was told to
[39:36] me and I wanted to clarify that folks
[39:39] like transplant wouldn't be leaning in
[39:42] as much as the cities. Is that correct?
[39:45] >> Yeah. So, we we actually went to the
[39:47] » Yeah. So, we we actually went to the
[39:48] PMA, the public management association.
[39:50] We talked to all the city managers um in
[39:53] January,
[39:54] like two weeks ago. I guess we're are
[39:56] still in January. Um times time flies
[39:59] but I think the city managers um when we
[40:02] discussed well let me take a step back.
[40:05] So in the contract there's four groups
[40:07] right four groups to engage with there's
[40:09] the board which is you there's the
[40:11] cities there's the stakeholders and then
[40:14] there's the public again trying to keep
[40:16] things really simple in terms of like
[40:17] these are the groups that we have to
[40:18] engage and and garner support. So with
[40:22] the team and with the city managers, you
[40:25] know, we went to talk to the PMA and we
[40:26] said, "Hey, like what do you think is
[40:29] the best way to engage with the cities,
[40:31] you know, and you know, what was some of
[40:32] the lessons learned that you all got in
[40:34] 2016 and 2020?" And they specifically
[40:39] said they they raised concerns in terms
[40:41] of how we were engaging with the RTPC's
[40:44] and not directly with the cities. And
[40:46] the city managers were basically saying,
[40:48] "Hey, like we really felt we were late
[40:49] to the table on the last one." and
[40:51] because you guys were engaging with the
[40:52] RTPC so much and so knowing that the
[40:55] cities are really we all know in 2020 we
[40:58] didn't necessarily have this big hurrah
[41:00] you know behind all the local
[41:02] jurisdictions and the cities and that
[41:03] coalition building and so so I think
[41:06] strategically the team has been really
[41:07] thinking about what's the best way to
[41:09] engage with the cities and we feel like
[41:11] engaging directly with the city managers
[41:14] you know at the PMA we feel like that's
[41:16] going to be the the venue or the place
[41:18] that we're going to be really getting
[41:20] that input from the cities and the local
[41:21] jurisdictions and really work with the
[41:23] city managers rather than really working
[41:25] through the RTPCs because when we were
[41:27] when we're working through the RTPC's
[41:29] it's there's a gap because we're talking
[41:31] to staff and we're assuming staff is
[41:33] briefing the city managers which in some
[41:35] cases is not happening and so there's a
[41:37] massive gap in terms of communication
[41:39] and then the city managers were late to
[41:40] the table. So like and so we're briefing
[41:43] you know all of you the electeds and
[41:45] we're briefing the staff and so there's
[41:47] just a gap there in terms of like this
[41:49] the decision-m that's happening at the
[41:50] local city level which is really you all
[41:53] what you all serve you know and so so I
[41:56] think so the city managers unanimously
[41:58] said that that they would like to be
[42:00] directly involved in the process and not
[42:03] necessarily like go through the RTPCs.
[42:06] Now the RTPC's will still be involved.
[42:10] It's like this RTPC's will be brought
[42:12] into the into the discussion and briefed
[42:14] as needed as we go through the process.
[42:16] But I think at the November board
[42:18] workshop, you know, I think we heard it
[42:20] loud and clear that we need to bring
[42:21] everyone to the table and really get
[42:23] communication across the board at with
[42:26] everyone at the table. And I think, you
[42:28] know, going to four RTPCs and the sub
[42:30] regions like not everyone's able to hear
[42:32] everyone, not everyone's able to see
[42:34] everything. And so what we feel like
[42:36] making sure that everyone feels heard,
[42:38] everyone's at the table, that we're
[42:40] going to be coordinating directly with
[42:42] all 19 cities at the same time in the
[42:44] same venue, in the same conversation and
[42:46] the county um to be able to build this
[42:49] this transputed expenditure plan.
[42:51] >> Yeah. I just I'm concerned about kind of
[42:53] » Yeah. I just I'm concerned about kind of
[42:53] the regional um view when when I when
[42:58] Transplant gets together. you know,
[43:00] we're we definitely represent the areas
[43:03] that we represent, but we're also
[43:05] thinking on a regional level. And I know
[43:08] that each city has a responsibility to
[43:10] think about their city.
[43:12] Um, and I'll just say, uh,
[43:15] unincorporated Contraosta, if it was a
[43:18] city, would be the largest city
[43:21] geographically and, uh, populationwise.
[43:25] So, you know, I just I I'm concerned
[43:28] about the regional effects because uh
[43:32] unincorporated contraosta is so spread
[43:34] out that um will the cities do that? So,
[43:39] I I hope it's not an eitheror. I think I
[43:42] think it should be and
[43:44] >> yeah, I think that's I think consulting
[43:46] » yeah, I think that's I think consulting
[43:46] the RTPC's I think when we are dealing
[43:49] with more of these re these like
[43:50] subregional things. Um but the county is
[43:53] at the table too. I mean, the county
[43:54] attends the PMA.
[43:55] >> Mhm.
[43:56] » Mhm.
[43:56] >> You know, and so and you know, I've been
[43:58] » You know, and so and you know, I've been
[43:58] talking with Monica. We've been making
[43:59] sure they've been installed. John
[44:00] Coptic's involved. And so, we've been
[44:02] making sure that leadership at the
[44:03] county level is also at the table as
[44:05] well at the PMA level. So, I think it's,
[44:07] you know, and I think what we're trying
[44:09] to accomplish is really making sure that
[44:11] like it's if you have everyone at the
[44:14] table, then that entire subregion is
[44:16] also at the table as well, you know. So
[44:19] it's it's because I think we've already
[44:21] been kind of strategizing in terms of
[44:22] like the May board workshop about how we
[44:25] want to get everyone to the table. And
[44:27] so the thought process and the goal
[44:29] would be that we would invite every RTPC
[44:33] member to that board workshop. Every
[44:36] elected official would get invited to
[44:38] that board workshop. I also think it's
[44:40] important because people kind of
[44:43] transition in and out of those
[44:45] committees
[44:47] and
[44:48] um particularly if you're new
[44:51] understanding the hat that you're
[44:53] wearing as a regional member. I think it
[44:55] would be great for us to kind of help
[44:58] people understand that regional
[45:01] um filter that they need to be
[45:03] approaching because what happens at the
[45:05] conquer naval weapons station h you know
[45:08] affects what happens in east county.
[45:10] >> I know
[45:12] » I know
[45:12] [laughter]
[45:13] >> you know what happens on Vasco road
[45:16] » you know what happens on Vasco road
[45:16] affects in other places what happens in
[45:18] Kirker Pass or Highway 24 or you know
[45:22] out in West County. So, I just want to
[45:25] make sure that and I totally support
[45:28] cities, but I do want this regional
[45:31] um vision to be included as an and not
[45:35] an or.
[45:36] >> Thank you,
[45:38] » Thank you,
[45:38] >> Mr. Stepper.
[45:40] » Mr. Stepper.
[45:40] Thank you. Um I'll be very brief, but I
[45:43] was on the first uh well, I guess David,
[45:46] who ran the first one that when I came
[45:48] on board, so we've been through one of
[45:50] these is a little easier when you're
[45:51] presenting to them. you're having the
[45:53] fourth bore of the tunnel. It's pretty
[45:55] visual. Um, and so I'm very concerned
[45:58] that the program be more sophisticated
[46:00] this time than the last one that was
[46:02] here because these are um we're a highly
[46:05] technical area. The AI is taking over
[46:07] everything right now. And um and beyond
[46:11] that, the kind of vehicles that you see
[46:13] every year when you go to the
[46:14] transportation agencies, people want to
[46:17] know that they're going to see the
[46:19] sophistication, technology, and speed of
[46:21] the vehicles, how it's going to make a
[46:23] difference to them, whether it's a bike
[46:25] or whether it's a car or whatever
[46:27] vehicle you're on. So, um I'm concerned
[46:30] about the program. Um I love the way you
[46:32] presented that it would be much briefer
[46:34] on the ballot because people just don't
[46:36] read all that. and um and the interest
[46:40] and funding this because when I read
[46:43] this yesterday, I could all I could
[46:45] think of was how much this was costing
[46:46] versus when I looked up some old
[46:48] programs from SWAT from way back when.
[46:50] Um and this is taking care of it in such
[46:54] a a really creative way. So, thank you
[46:56] very much for that. I think that people
[46:58] will be very um responsive to that.
[47:00] Thank you,
[47:02] >> Commissioner Kelly.
[47:03] » Commissioner Kelly.
[47:03] >> Oh, yeah. Thank you. I want to echo what
[47:05] » Oh, yeah. Thank you. I want to echo what
[47:05] uh Diane said about it being both and so
[47:08] we should go we got a lot of firepower
[47:10] here with the consultants so we should
[47:12] go out to the RTPCs and see what those
[47:14] different regional needs are and each
[47:16] region is different and we should also
[47:18] talk to the city managers you know and
[47:20] one thing that's really important we've
[47:22] all said this before is return to source
[47:24] local streets and roads or you know or
[47:26] maybe you use it for bicycles in your
[47:28] city but with gas tax revenues going
[47:31] down because everybody's transitioning
[47:33] to um zero emission vehicles. We're
[47:36] going to need money to work on our PCI
[47:38] on our pavement and for other things too
[47:41] in the local area. And if you can reach
[47:43] those cities, then you can reach the
[47:45] people in those cities and those people
[47:47] are the voters. My second point is I
[47:49] want to agree with Sue. SB63 that's
[47:52] coming. This is a transit measure that
[47:54] hopefully will be coming here in
[47:55] November. But when we go out for our
[47:58] measure, it's going to be different.
[47:59] It's going to include pavement. it's
[48:01] going to include bicycles and you know
[48:03] safe streets for all and a whole bunch
[48:05] of different things. So I think there is
[48:07] a way to differentiate it but we don't
[48:09] want to confuse the people. So we got to
[48:13] >> Mr. Oberger.
[48:15] » Mr. Oberger.
[48:15] >> Thank you. So um I was not on this body
[48:19] » Thank you. So um I was not on this body
[48:19] for the last measure and I just remember
[48:21] bits and pieces of it. So it's helpful
[48:23] to hear from others about what has
[48:26] improved you know over this approach.
[48:29] Um, I think it would be helpful if
[48:31] there's some kind of like cliffnotes
[48:33] version of, okay, this is how we're
[48:35] improving things because when I saw the
[48:36] amount of money for the consultant, it
[48:39] just it gave me a little bit of pause.
[48:41] So, I I'm getting, like I said, like the
[48:43] context from some of the other
[48:44] commissioners who have more experience,
[48:46] but it would just be helpful for some of
[48:47] us who are new to better understand so
[48:50] we can communicate to people um why this
[48:53] is a a large investment, but a good
[48:55] investment. And then the other question
[48:57] I had in terms of categories um so was
[49:00] there a definition for stakeholder
[49:03] versus public because you know a member
[49:06] of the public would consider themselves
[49:08] a stakeholder. So how are you
[49:10] differentiating between those
[49:11] categories?
[49:12] >> No, that's a good question. Uh
[49:14] » No, that's a good question. Uh
[49:14] Commissioner Bringer, I think the public
[49:16] is really the general public. Um I mean
[49:18] that's really what we're kind of really
[49:20] focusing on is that that kind of boots
[49:22] on the ground public engagement, you
[49:24] know, with the constituents. um
[49:26] stakeholders are going to be a it's
[49:28] going to be managed probably we're still
[49:30] trying to strategize exactly how we're
[49:32] going to do this but I think you know
[49:34] we're thinking that you have like NOS's
[49:37] you have businesses you have labor
[49:38] you've got um um the CBOS the transit
[49:43] operators you know all of these are just
[49:46] to keep it really again we're trying to
[49:48] keep things simple so it's like we have
[49:49] four groups right board city
[49:52] stakeholders public and the stakeholders
[49:54] really kind of a catchup call right for
[49:56] all the other folks that we really need
[49:58] to engage with um that are going to help
[50:00] guide you know the investments you know
[50:03] into the measure and so and each of
[50:05] those groups will have you know again we
[50:07] got to strategize on this but each of
[50:09] these groups will have different
[50:11] different venues different meetings
[50:12] different engagement structures you know
[50:14] that we have to really work with the
[50:16] team once we get the team on board and
[50:17] engaged we will be coming back I mean
[50:20] yeah I just want to be clear like we're
[50:23] going to be talking about this every
[50:25] single month for the next two years,
[50:27] >> you know, and so meetings are going to
[50:29] » you know, and so meetings are going to
[50:29] start getting long. We're going to be
[50:30] here for a long time. We're going to be
[50:32] talking about policy. We're going to be
[50:33] talking about all this stuff,
[50:34] engagement, like it's it's that the
[50:37] rubber is going to hit the road here
[50:38] pretty quick. So, so I think, you know,
[50:40] once we get this team engaged, the next
[50:43] step is to come to you with a a full
[50:45] engagement strategy and and go into the
[50:48] details of exactly all of these things,
[50:50] right? And so, um, I mean, there's a
[50:53] there's if you look at the scope,
[50:55] there's, you know, there's probably
[50:57] 2,000 slides that have to be prepared in
[50:59] the scope, you know, and so, so there's
[51:02] a long road ahead of us. It's going to
[51:04] be a lot of time and we plan to bring
[51:06] all this back to you to get input with
[51:08] you from you every step of the way you
[51:11] know and so so this kind of four group
[51:13] pyramid that we that we have set up and
[51:15] this engagement process you know we want
[51:17] to confirm that this is the right
[51:18] process with all of you you know and so
[51:20] I think but public is general public and
[51:22] then stakeholders is kind of you know
[51:24] all these other stakeholder groups that
[51:26] are going to have interest in the
[51:27] expenditure plan and the funding.
[51:29] >> Thank you. And just one quick followup
[51:31] » Thank you. And just one quick followup
[51:31] again, I think it would be really
[51:33] helpful because I understand the
[51:35] expectation is going to be, you know, if
[51:37] we put this together, we should be out
[51:39] advocating in our communities, but I
[51:41] really don't know as I'm sitting here
[51:43] right now how um how how my city, you
[51:47] know, voted last time, right? like it
[51:49] would be just I think really helpful to
[51:51] understand where did the previous
[51:52] measure succeed, where did it fail so
[51:55] that we have that baseline of
[51:56] understanding about how our community
[51:58] felt and that'll help us approach our
[52:01] advocacy.
[52:02] >> Yeah, we ju just to be clear, we we plan
[52:05] » Yeah, we ju just to be clear, we we plan
[52:05] to bring all that back to the board like
[52:07] lessons learned. I mean there's there's
[52:09] a lot to learn from the 16 measure.
[52:11] There's a lot of learn to learn from the
[52:12] 2020 measure. And so yeah, we're we'll
[52:14] we'll bring all this data. I mean, I
[52:16] think one thing I want you to be really
[52:18] clear on is this is going to be a very
[52:20] datadriven approach, you know, and so
[52:23] the goal, the key here is to really make
[52:26] show many slides with lots of data and
[52:28] to your eyeballs or like glazed over,
[52:31] you know, I'm just joking. But I think
[52:33] the idea here is to really show you lots
[52:34] of data and get you get show you where
[52:37] we're going and get input from you on
[52:38] where we're going on every step of the
[52:40] way. So,
[52:43] >> Commissioner Berno.
[52:44] » Commissioner Berno.
[52:44] >> Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for the
[52:45] » Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for the
[52:45] presentation, Tim. So, a couple
[52:47] questions. Um, one is, so this is, uh,
[52:50] being funded in total by the reserve,
[52:54] but the interest is going to pay for it
[52:56] over time. Is that correct?
[52:58] >> Correct.
[52:59] » Correct.
[52:59] >> That's the plan. And it's it's sounds
[53:02] » That's the plan. And it's it's sounds
[53:02] like it's going to be pretty tight
[53:03] between all the different consultants to
[53:07] keep it pacing with the interest.
[53:09] Correct. I mean, it's
[53:11] >> we So, we have right now there's 28
[53:13] » we So, we have right now there's 28
[53:14] million. So, we're confident we'll be
[53:16] able to fund the first year of this
[53:18] contract, you know, with what was
[53:20] already in there, which was already in
[53:21] the earned interest. So, so there'll be
[53:24] there'll be another another payment of
[53:26] earned interest that gets dropped in
[53:27] there sometime June or June or July of
[53:29] this year, you know, and so and after we
[53:32] get this full fiscal year of earned
[53:33] interest on the reserves.
[53:36] >> And so, and that'll be that I mean,
[53:38] » And so, and that'll be that I mean,
[53:38] we're anticipating that'll be roughly
[53:40] about a million and a half or so. you
[53:42] know, that's been kind of what we've
[53:43] been seeing in general. Um, and so as
[53:45] the as the as the invoices are coming in
[53:48] from the consultant, the goal is to cash
[53:50] flow those invoices and pay those
[53:51] invoices from the earned interest. So,
[53:53] we're we're far enough ahead in the
[53:55] curve to be able to support, you know,
[53:57] those invoices that are going to get
[53:58] paid through the whole process.
[54:00] >> Does this is this contract uh have any
[54:03] » Does this is this contract uh have any
[54:03] contingency built into it?
[54:05] >> Yeah. Uh, no, there's no contingency
[54:06] » Yeah. Uh, no, there's no contingency
[54:06] built into the contract. So like we we
[54:09] wanted to make it if if anything
[54:11] changes,
[54:12] we want to make sure this board knows
[54:14] about it. So there's there's no
[54:16] contingency. So if we have to add do an
[54:18] amendment or anything like that, I
[54:20] wanted to make sure that you are fully
[54:22] aware about this contract. You know,
[54:24] like like if if if there is a situation
[54:27] where cash flow is not meeting and we
[54:29] start looking at it and we're like, "Oh,
[54:30] we may have to dip into the principal."
[54:32] You will all be the first to know. Like
[54:34] I will bring an item back and we will
[54:36] talk about it. So like again I want to I
[54:37] know this reserve is very sensitive to
[54:40] all of you and to our stakeholders and
[54:43] we are going to be extremely transparent
[54:45] in terms of how we manage this contract
[54:47] you know so um so I just want to make
[54:49] that really clear
[54:51] >> and we've all seen um these contracts
[54:53] » and we've all seen um these contracts
[54:53] kind of creep right they get bigger so
[54:57] uh
[54:58] what I guess my question is who's who's
[55:01] ultimately responsible obviously you are
[55:02] but how is this going to be managed who
[55:05] within CCTA DTA.
[55:06] >> So I'm personally going to manage this
[55:08] » So I'm personally going to manage this
[55:08] contract. So you can hold me responsible
[55:10] for every every everything on it. So
[55:13] obviously the team is going to be this
[55:15] is a large supported team effort, you
[55:17] know, within CCTA. There's going to be
[55:19] tons of people involved um from the
[55:21] planning team, the projects team, the
[55:22] finance team, you know, the admin, every
[55:24] everyone's going to be involved. This is
[55:25] a huge undertaking for our team, you
[55:28] know, and so um so yeah, I mean I will
[55:31] be managing the contract, reviewing
[55:33] invoices, but there are going to be
[55:35] components of this, you know, for
[55:36] example, like public engagement. I'll
[55:38] make sure Lindy re reviews that part of
[55:40] the invoice, etc., etc. You and so it's
[55:43] going to be a it's going to be a staff
[55:44] undertaking, you know, to make sure that
[55:46] everything stays, you know, stays
[55:48] consistent. Um, and making sure again to
[55:51] manage the scope creep, you know,
[55:53] because I mean, and again, if there's
[55:54] scope creep, then again, there'll be
[55:56] like I'll make if there's an amendment,
[55:57] you know, we'll need an amendment. And
[55:58] that's why I didn't want to add
[55:59] contingency because again, I want
[56:00] everything to be very very transparent.
[56:02] >> Sure. And although I know you're really
[56:04] » Sure. And although I know you're really
[56:04] busy, I think that's the right answer to
[56:06] that you're ultimately responsible
[56:07] because um this has got to be really,
[56:10] you know, you have you got to know every
[56:12] what's going on with it. And I guess my
[56:14] final comment is just I agree with the
[56:16] the comment about the the manag you know
[56:19] the the PMA the city managers and um the
[56:22] RTPC's both being involved because city
[56:24] managers come and go get busy focus on
[56:27] other things. So it's not a guarantee
[56:29] just because they're being told you know
[56:31] what's happening that they're going to
[56:32] be able to translate that to councils
[56:34] and to people that need to know.
[56:37] >> Yeah. And and again we'll we'll bring
[56:38] » Yeah. And and again we'll we'll bring
[56:38] all this back to the board for
[56:40] engagement. You know, I think um in
[56:42] terms of how and when we're going to
[56:44] engage the RTPCs, I I I 100% agree with
[56:47] all of you on the and it's not an or.
[56:49] Okay, it's I think the question is is
[56:51] how do we engage the RTPCs and when do
[56:53] we engage with the RTPCs? Um and so
[56:57] because and and we can come up with
[56:59] scenarios and we can talk about that,
[57:01] you know, as we kind of get into the
[57:02] details. So, so I agree with engaging
[57:06] with both. Uh I mean, we need to have
[57:09] the subregional projects in there or I
[57:12] don't believe it'll go, but the cities
[57:14] are going to want their little little
[57:15] bits, too. Uh talking about the contract
[57:18] amount, I understand, you know, wanting
[57:21] to spend all the money wisely, but if we
[57:23] don't if we don't do this and we don't
[57:25] do it, we don't spend it and we don't
[57:26] spend it and do it right,
[57:29] >> we won't even be sitting here in a few
[57:30] » we won't even be sitting here in a few
[57:30] years. So I mean it has to in my mind it
[57:33] has to be done has to be done right and
[57:35] we need to we need to put the resources
[57:36] into it that will allow us to be
[57:39] successful in the next ballot measure.
[57:44] So
[57:45] >> any other
[57:47] » any other
[57:47] >> representative work
[57:48] » representative work
[57:48] >> thank you sir um first of all I think
[57:51] » thank you sir um first of all I think
[57:51] this is an excellent approach and I
[57:53] think Tim's leadership to manage this
[57:55] process is going to be so invaluable. Um
[57:59] the different dynamics right now is we
[58:01] are looking at a situation where the the
[58:04] revenue flow will stop if we can't uh
[58:08] renew this measure. So it's very
[58:09] different dynamics than than than
[58:12] previously when we were looking at
[58:13] adding on to an existing tax. So um I
[58:17] think that the engagement of various
[58:19] parties particularly the PMA and other
[58:21] groups that really understand how vital
[58:23] this is to our county are going to be
[58:25] really important. The other piece that I
[58:27] think is extremely important to engage
[58:30] is our our other JPA colleagues in the
[58:33] county and those are the transit
[58:35] agencies. they are going to be really in
[58:38] and including Bart here in terms of uh
[58:42] you know the when you look at the voters
[58:44] you know BART consistently uh polls
[58:49] very positively in this county um as
[58:52] well as the you know things like we've
[58:54] talked about school transportation home
[58:56] transportation seniors so I think early
[58:58] on also engaging with our colleagues on
[59:01] the transit agencies will be really
[59:04] vital in terms of putting together. Not
[59:06] only a pro, you know, first the polling
[59:09] to really test what the voters are um
[59:14] want to support and second of all the
[59:17] the engagement in developing the
[59:19] programs because we we realized when we
[59:22] were headed out to the retreat uh in
[59:25] Oakley in the morning and seeing the
[59:27] massive traffic going the other way that
[59:30] we're not going to be riding widening
[59:32] lanes. we're going to be looking at
[59:33] alternative ways of of moving people uh
[59:38] for example using using transit and uh
[59:41] so I I think this is a great approach
[59:43] and I know everybody is looking forward
[59:45] to really rallying to support this
[59:47] effort collectively
[59:52] » commissioner I I would just add to that
[59:55] conversation um having been through
[59:59] measure J then two rounds so this would
[1:00:01] be the fourth one Um, to be honest, in
[1:00:03] the in the the last couple, we were
[1:00:06] hijacked. We're hijacked by groups,
[1:00:08] organizations. I'm not going to name
[1:00:10] them because we lost focus
[1:00:15] with the people who count, which are the
[1:00:17] voters.
[1:00:18] The groups aren't the voters. They're
[1:00:20] just people. They have self-interest.
[1:00:22] It's money. A very large organization
[1:00:25] hijacked us. We had a consultant that
[1:00:27] was representing both. and it and it
[1:00:30] just took us and we spent too much time.
[1:00:35] So all of what's organized in this
[1:00:38] that's not really out there is to avoid
[1:00:42] that from happening because all that
[1:00:44] counts is getting people to clearly
[1:00:46] understand what we're we're doing. We're
[1:00:49] renewing this. here's what the value
[1:00:52] propositions everybody will share and
[1:00:54] there's regional equity and all of those
[1:00:56] things and that somebody votes for all
[1:00:59] those other entities
[1:01:01] we have to listen to them and go through
[1:01:03] them but we have to balance that and
[1:01:05] that's our job because we have to have
[1:01:08] something because we have to approve it
[1:01:10] ultimately the county says yeah you put
[1:01:11] on the ballot it has to be something
[1:01:13] that the voters will approve if we make
[1:01:16] all of our agencies happy and they're
[1:01:18] all they don't vote I mean they
[1:01:20] represent, you know, a raindrop
[1:01:23] relative to the voting population. So,
[1:01:26] it's really important. And I think what
[1:01:28] strategized here is that we recognized
[1:01:31] what we made mistakes last time. Not
[1:01:33] that there weren't great ideas and
[1:01:34] things, we just didn't get it
[1:01:35] communicated to the voters. So, this
[1:01:38] one, we should all remember that.
[1:01:39] Remember, the RTCPs are sitting right
[1:01:42] here. There are two of you from each
[1:01:44] RTCP.
[1:01:46] I'm the only one that reps. I represent
[1:01:48] the 19 cities. So we have that
[1:01:51] representation, we have that structure
[1:01:53] of how they do that, but we lost a
[1:01:56] little bit of the connection directly
[1:01:58] with the voters.
[1:02:00] So I think we have a strategy that is
[1:02:03] better focused this time and I think as
[1:02:06] a board I think we all get that. Um and
[1:02:10] I think some of those other entities
[1:02:13] realize what happened in the past. So I
[1:02:15] think our goals were all headed towards
[1:02:16] the same direction. There will be
[1:02:18] different ways. We need to make sure
[1:02:19] there's a little flexibility in the
[1:02:21] future. We were pretty tight this time.
[1:02:23] You can't do this, you can't do that
[1:02:25] because 25 years from now, I don't know
[1:02:27] what's going to be out there. Do we want
[1:02:29] to make it that oh, there shall only be
[1:02:31] this type of vehicle. There only should
[1:02:33] be, you know, you got to be careful in
[1:02:35] doing that. And I think that's a value
[1:02:37] proposition that we saw from the voters,
[1:02:39] you know, unless it's a call to cut
[1:02:41] tunnel. That's forever.
[1:02:43] But on some of these other things and
[1:02:44] the way with technology is moving, the
[1:02:47] voters need to hear that because they
[1:02:49] see it every day. So I think again we're
[1:02:52] headed the right direction. We have the
[1:02:54] right leadership. We have a consultant
[1:02:57] team that is really smart and again
[1:03:00] because they're not independently
[1:03:02] working against each other. They're all
[1:03:04] controlled by one entity. So the
[1:03:06] messaging, our board has to get to that
[1:03:09] point of having one clear strong message
[1:03:12] that shows that voter value proposition.
[1:03:14] Commissioner Noak.
[1:03:16] >> So I I don't want to be a
[1:03:19] » So I I don't want to be a
[1:03:19] pessimist or anything but
[1:03:22] >> but you are
[1:03:24] » but you are
[1:03:24] >> but I'm going to be just now only
[1:03:26] » but I'm going to be just now only
[1:03:26] because I want there to be enough
[1:03:27] flexibility and thought process because
[1:03:30] um I am hoping SB63 passes in November
[1:03:34] but to the extent it doesn't
[1:03:37] this measure could change drastically.
[1:03:40] >> Right. And so I just want everybody to
[1:03:42] » Right. And so I just want everybody to
[1:03:42] sort of be aware of this to not get so
[1:03:44] focused on what it's going
[1:03:45] [clears throat] to do because it may
[1:03:46] have to change based on what happens,
[1:03:51] you know, by this November. We will know
[1:03:54] one way or the other and that may change
[1:03:57] what we're looking at here. So I I don't
[1:04:00] think that was totally pessimistic, but
[1:04:02] it's it's just just a slight bit. You're
[1:04:04] laughing at me.
[1:04:06] >> Nine months a week.
[1:04:09] » Nine months a week.
[1:04:09] >> Yeah. So anyway, I just I just want to
[1:04:11] » Yeah. So anyway, I just I just want to
[1:04:11] make sure that we don't get so wed to
[1:04:14] certain ideas beforehand and then all of
[1:04:15] a sudden our world
[1:04:17] >> changes and and we're going to have to
[1:04:18] » changes and and we're going to have to
[1:04:18] rethink stuff. So
[1:04:20] >> any other comments or questions?
[1:04:26] » Sure.
[1:04:27] >> No.
[1:04:31] » Terry Han, do we have any public
[1:04:33] comments?
[1:04:35] >> We do not have any public comment.
[1:04:39] » We do not have any public comment.
[1:04:39] Okay. Do we have a motion?
[1:04:42] >> I'll make a motion.
[1:04:44] » I'll make a motion.
[1:04:44] >> Second. Terry, could you uh conduct roll
[1:04:47] » Second. Terry, could you uh conduct roll
[1:04:47] call vote, please?
[1:04:48] >> Sorry. Who was a second?
[1:04:51] » Sorry. Who was a second?
[1:04:51] >> Thank you.
[1:04:52] » Thank you.
[1:04:52] >> Commissioner Arnrich.
[1:04:54] » Commissioner Arnrich.
[1:04:54] >> Hi.
[1:04:55] » Hi.
[1:04:55] >> Commissioner Bernol,
[1:04:56] » Commissioner Bernol,
[1:04:56] >> yes.
[1:04:57] » yes.
[1:04:57] >> Commissioner Bergus,
[1:04:58] » Commissioner Bergus,
[1:04:58] >> yes.
[1:04:59] » yes.
[1:04:59] >> Commissioner Carlson,
[1:05:00] » Commissioner Carlson,
[1:05:00] >> yes.
[1:05:01] » yes.
[1:05:01] >> Commissioner Kelly,
[1:05:02] » Commissioner Kelly,
[1:05:02] >> yes.
[1:05:03] » yes.
[1:05:03] >> Commissioner Noak,
[1:05:04] » Commissioner Noak,
[1:05:04] >> yes.
[1:05:04] » yes.
[1:05:04] >> Commissioner O'Brier,
[1:05:05] » Commissioner O'Brier,
[1:05:05] >> yes. Commissioner Altstepper,
[1:05:08] » yes. Commissioner Altstepper,
[1:05:08] >> yes.
[1:05:08] » yes.
[1:05:08] >> Commissioner Xavier,
[1:05:09] » Commissioner Xavier,
[1:05:09] >> hi.
[1:05:10] » hi.
[1:05:10] >> Vice Chair G,
[1:05:11] » Vice Chair G,
[1:05:11] >> yes.
[1:05:11] » yes.
[1:05:11] >> Chair Meadows,
[1:05:12] » Chair Meadows,
[1:05:12] >> yes.
[1:05:13] » yes.
[1:05:13] >> Motion passes unanimously.
[1:05:14] » Motion passes unanimously.
[1:05:14] >> Thank you, Terry.
[1:05:18] » Thank you, Tim, for for uh presenting
[1:05:19] that. The next item is an action item
[1:05:21] from the planning committee to be
[1:05:23] presented by Matt Kelly seeking approval
[1:05:25] to transmit an annual urban limit line
[1:05:28] policy advisory letter to all Contraosta
[1:05:31] County jurisdictions.
[1:05:36] Thank you, Chair Meadows. Good evening,
[1:05:38] authority members. Matt Kelly, director
[1:05:40] of planning for the authority. Great to
[1:05:42] be here tonight. Um, as you know, I'm uh
[1:05:46] frequently up here kind of giving you
[1:05:48] guys uh some history on um aspects of
[1:05:52] Measure J. Um hopefully that uh helps
[1:05:55] inform what we were just talking about.
[1:05:58] um you know a new measure um learning
[1:06:00] about what we've what we did as part of
[1:06:02] measure J and how we can uh you know uh
[1:06:07] move that into the future. I think the
[1:06:09] urban limit line is one of the you know
[1:06:11] very important component of measure J.
[1:06:14] Um certainly had the voters's attention
[1:06:17] uh back in 2004. Um, so tonight I'm
[1:06:21] going to give you um the the item for
[1:06:25] approval on the on the agenda is our
[1:06:28] annual uh urban limit line policy
[1:06:30] advisory and the letter uh that we use
[1:06:33] to advise the jurisdictions about the
[1:06:35] UL, but I'll also be providing a short
[1:06:37] update on uh the county's um effort to
[1:06:41] update their urban limit line.
[1:06:45] So let's move through it. So, uh, just a
[1:06:49] little bit of history on on the urban
[1:06:51] limit line. Um, uh, so as you probably
[1:06:54] all know, we we started back in 1988
[1:06:57] with, uh, measure C, [clears throat] and
[1:07:00] that was our original sales tax. Um then
[1:07:04] in 1990
[1:07:06] uh the county enacted their measure C uh
[1:07:09] 20-year uh measure which um established
[1:07:13] the the 6535
[1:07:15] uh urban limit line which basically
[1:07:17] required that 65% of the county lands
[1:07:21] were to be preserved for agricultural
[1:07:24] uh non-urban uh uses that can be open
[1:07:27] space, parks, recreation,
[1:07:30] uh things like that. um non-urban uses.
[1:07:33] Um and then uh they established an urban
[1:07:36] limit line uh beyond
[1:07:40] which point uh no urban uses can be uh
[1:07:43] designated. Um
[1:07:46] so that uh that then fed into measure J
[1:07:51] which was uh adopted as I mentioned back
[1:07:53] in 2004 that extended measure C uh or a
[1:07:57] sales tax in contraosta for 25 years and
[1:08:00] we're approaching uh those 25 years in
[1:08:03] 2034 which is why we're talking about a
[1:08:05] TEP. Um, Measure J required
[1:08:09] uh that all 20 jurisdictions or at least
[1:08:12] the 19 other than the county uh comply
[1:08:15] with the principles and agreements of
[1:08:18] establishing the urban limit line in
[1:08:20] order to receive the 18 uh% of return to
[1:08:23] source funds plus two additional percent
[1:08:26] in certain parts of the county. So that
[1:08:28] is uh you know it you you have to have
[1:08:32] adopted an urban limit line to receive
[1:08:34] uh any return to source funds from
[1:08:36] measure J.
[1:08:39] Um then [clears throat]
[1:08:40] uh around the time uh uh a couple years
[1:08:45] later uh before measure J was actually
[1:08:47] implemented in 2009
[1:08:49] uh the county uh proposed measure L uh
[1:08:52] which extended that 6535 ordinance uh
[1:08:56] through 2026. Um and what um so it was a
[1:09:00] 30-year measure required four fifths
[1:09:03] vote of the board of supervisors. We've
[1:09:05] got two of them in here tonight. Um
[1:09:10] Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. Can't
[1:09:12] >> sorry, Commissioner Anderson. We have
[1:09:15] » sorry, Commissioner Anderson. We have
[1:09:15] >> We have a majority of the board of
[1:09:16] » We have a majority of the board of
[1:09:16] supervisors in the room tonight. Um
[1:09:20] though only two are technically
[1:09:22] representing I think the the board
[1:09:24] tonight. Um so um we will um so and and
[1:09:29] that was to approve any changes to the
[1:09:32] ulll of more than 30 acres. uh smaller
[1:09:36] changes were uh you know approved by by
[1:09:38] a vote of the board. Um it adopted a new
[1:09:42] uh new at the time urban limit line map
[1:09:46] uh which most of you are probably
[1:09:47] familiar with and I'll show you in just
[1:09:48] a second and uh established uh review
[1:09:52] procedures for uh when there is a
[1:09:55] proposed change to the urban limit line,
[1:09:57] what that review process looks like. Um
[1:10:00] and uh and and then there's an actual
[1:10:03] review of the measure itself uh which
[1:10:06] was done in 2016. There was a one-time
[1:10:09] uh review as part of measure L. And what
[1:10:11] that did is the county reviewed the
[1:10:13] measure for um its capacity to uh
[1:10:20] accommodate the planned growth for the
[1:10:22] county. So basically the county looked
[1:10:24] at the growth planned around the county
[1:10:25] and made sure that the current line
[1:10:28] could accommodate all of that growth
[1:10:30] both in population and jobs. And at the
[1:10:32] time 10 years ago they they um they
[1:10:35] confirmed that it would.
[1:10:38] So then uh measure J um as as the
[1:10:42] authority was um updating the growth
[1:10:45] management program for measure J uh the
[1:10:49] uh ULL requirement uh was was uh
[1:10:53] included in in measure J and required
[1:10:56] the cities to adopt each city to have
[1:10:59] adopt a voter approved UL uh by April of
[1:11:02] 2009 just a couple months ahead of uh
[1:11:06] the measure going live. Um, so that
[1:11:10] voter approved UL could look different
[1:11:13] in each jurisdiction. Uh, they could
[1:11:15] either approve a the the MAC UL, the
[1:11:18] mutually agreed upon countywide UL,
[1:11:21] which um wasn't chosen by our
[1:11:24] jurisdictions. Uh, what they most of
[1:11:27] them went with was the uh adopting the
[1:11:29] county's Measure Line.
[1:11:32] Um so 16 of our jurisdictions
[1:11:35] uh adopted that um under voter
[1:11:39] referendum uh or initiative. Um and
[1:11:43] three of our jurisdictions, Antioch,
[1:11:45] Pittsburgh and San Ramon adopted their
[1:11:48] own urban growth boundary. So we took
[1:11:51] those three those three individual lines
[1:11:53] and the uh county's line and kind of
[1:11:55] morphed them into uh this uh
[1:12:00] pinkish maroon uh form that you see
[1:12:03] there. And that's what we've uh what has
[1:12:06] basically remained unchanged since since
[1:12:09] that time.
[1:12:11] So every year because there's turnover
[1:12:13] at the cities, you know, city manager
[1:12:15] level and elected officials, uh we like
[1:12:17] to remind uh staff and electeds of their
[1:12:22] responsibilities as part of the GMP and
[1:12:25] the ULL requirement. Um so we send a
[1:12:28] letter. It's basically the same every
[1:12:31] year. It reminds each jurisdiction uh
[1:12:34] what their responsibilities are that
[1:12:37] when they are considering a change to
[1:12:39] the urban limit line that they should uh
[1:12:42] request an evaluation by the authority.
[1:12:44] Basically, you send us information of
[1:12:46] the project and have us make a
[1:12:48] determination on whether it meets the
[1:12:51] the requirements of the ulll or requires
[1:12:54] an adjustment. Um so the authority
[1:12:56] responds. Um in many cases the proponent
[1:13:00] will come to our planning committee um
[1:13:03] and present their case uh for the the
[1:13:06] planning committee to to hear.
[1:13:10] Um the criteria that is considered is
[1:13:12] whether or not the development uh lies
[1:13:15] with fully within the ulll. uh whether
[1:13:18] the development involves a nonsequential
[1:13:21] or non-ontiguous adjustment of 30 acres
[1:13:24] or less or does not involve an extension
[1:13:27] or expansion of urban services that be
[1:13:31] fire, sewer, water, things like that
[1:13:33] across the ul boundary. So if it meets
[1:13:36] uh those three then um then you know
[1:13:40] then it we determine that there is no
[1:13:43] ull issue.
[1:13:45] [clears throat]
[1:13:46] So that that's basically what the letter
[1:13:49] says. So it's just a reminder to
[1:13:51] everyone what their responsibilities
[1:13:53] are. Um and that is the the ask tonight
[1:13:57] that we recommend that you uh have staff
[1:14:00] issue the letter to all 20
[1:14:02] jurisdictions. However, um I'd also like
[1:14:05] to update you on what the county's been
[1:14:07] up to and they probably don't need a
[1:14:09] reminder uh this year because it's been
[1:14:12] uh front and center for them uh because
[1:14:14] as I mentioned earlier, the uh current
[1:14:17] measure LULL uh expires at the end of
[1:14:21] this year, December 31st. So last month
[1:14:24] the county uh supervisors uh voted uh to
[1:14:27] place uh an extension of measure L on
[1:14:31] the June 2nd ballot uh of this year. Uh
[1:14:34] what that would do is extend that 6535
[1:14:37] ordinance um through December 31st of
[1:14:42] 2011. So uh 25 years uh that uh
[1:14:47] maintains
[1:14:49] all all the requirements related to the
[1:14:51] expansion. the 30 uh acre rule. Um but
[1:14:56] what it also does um it provided a
[1:14:58] mechanism for uh an expansion of the
[1:15:02] Byron airport up to 500 acres or around
[1:15:05] 500 acres. Um and uh so that that is
[1:15:10] kind of built in but it does ensure that
[1:15:13] the development that goes on out there
[1:15:17] basically is is there to focus on
[1:15:19] economic development and viability of
[1:15:21] the airport. So it's a it would be a
[1:15:23] very focused expansion of the urban
[1:15:26] limit line. Um and there is already an
[1:15:29] urban limit line around the airport. It
[1:15:31] would just be allowed to be expanded.
[1:15:33] Um, so the it aligns ull reviews. So I
[1:15:37] believe there's two reviews built into
[1:15:38] this one. And it is instead of just
[1:15:41] saying we'll do it, you know, in uh, you
[1:15:43] know, at the 10-year mark, it's it's um,
[1:15:46] designed to be done around the Reena um,
[1:15:50] Reena updates and updates of each city's
[1:15:52] housing element. So there's some
[1:15:54] alignment there. Um and then um and then
[1:15:58] there's a new map that has been
[1:16:00] developed uh and the the county uh did a
[1:16:04] lot of work developing this new map.
[1:16:06] They did some trimming of of the urban
[1:16:10] limit line. Basically, they made sure it
[1:16:12] was matching up with existing
[1:16:15] boundaries, city boundaries, um creeks,
[1:16:18] other natural or or existing uh
[1:16:22] administrative boundaries. Um and that
[1:16:25] allowed them to um contract the UL by
[1:16:28] about 11,000 acres. Uh but there were
[1:16:31] also uh 1,600 acres of UL expansion and
[1:16:36] and most of that was really just to
[1:16:38] account for um those minor corrections
[1:16:42] but around the entirety of the county
[1:16:44] which you know equal the the 1,600
[1:16:47] acres. So it's it really is a
[1:16:49] contraction. Um this is a black and
[1:16:52] white version of of the new map. It
[1:16:54] really doesn't look any different than
[1:16:55] the old map. Uh maybe except for around
[1:16:59] the Byron airport. Um but they've given
[1:17:01] us a little inset there so you can see
[1:17:04] uh what that looks like.
[1:17:06] Um so that is my presentation. Um we're
[1:17:10] we're currently um working with legal on
[1:17:12] what you know um what the cities will
[1:17:15] need to do once the uh county's ul is uh
[1:17:21] extended assuming that that happens in
[1:17:23] June. Um just because each uh of the the
[1:17:27] 16 cities I mentioned uh do adopt that
[1:17:30] that uh urban limit line. So, we'll make
[1:17:33] sure we are equipped to uh advise the
[1:17:36] cities of anything they need to do uh to
[1:17:39] maintain uh consistency with that new
[1:17:42] urban limit line. Um but I can I'll
[1:17:46] remind you that the recommendation
[1:17:47] tonight is to issue that annual UL ul
[1:17:52] policy advisory letter, but I can take
[1:17:54] any questions on that or uh the county's
[1:17:57] measure. But we do have three experts in
[1:17:59] the room that could probably help me
[1:18:01] out.
[1:18:02] >> Thank you, Matt. Are there any comments
[1:18:04] » Thank you, Matt. Are there any comments
[1:18:04] or questions from the authority board?
[1:18:08] I would uh
[1:18:11] make a small comment to thank the county
[1:18:13] for all their work of making this
[1:18:15] adjustment. This used to be a very
[1:18:17] politically charged. It's it's well
[1:18:20] thought out. Um, and I absolutely
[1:18:24] support to send the letter out and get
[1:18:27] everybody's response.
[1:18:29] Any other comments?
[1:18:31] Is there any public comments?
[1:18:35] >> We have not received any public comment.
[1:18:39] » We have not received any public comment.
[1:18:39] >> Thank you. Is there a motion?
[1:18:42] » Thank you. Is there a motion?
[1:18:42] >> So moved. I'll second that motion.
[1:18:45] » So moved. I'll second that motion.
[1:18:45] >> First and second. Tianne, could you
[1:18:48] » First and second. Tianne, could you
[1:18:48] conduct roll call vote vote, please?
[1:18:50] Commissioner Arnrich.
[1:18:52] >> I.
[1:18:52] » I.
[1:18:52] >> Commissioner Bernal.
[1:18:53] » Commissioner Bernal.
[1:18:53] >> Yes.
[1:18:54] » Yes.
[1:18:54] >> Commissioner Bergus.
[1:18:55] » Commissioner Bergus.
[1:18:55] >> Yes.
[1:18:55] » Yes.
[1:18:55] >> Commissioner Carlson.
[1:18:56] » Commissioner Carlson.
[1:18:56] >> Yes.
[1:18:57] » Yes.
[1:18:57] >> Commissioner Kelly.
[1:18:58] » Commissioner Kelly.
[1:18:58] >> Yes.
[1:18:59] » Yes.
[1:18:59] >> Commissioner Noak.
[1:19:00] » Commissioner Noak.
[1:19:00] >> Yes.
[1:19:01] » Yes.
[1:19:01] >> Commissioner Obringer.
[1:19:02] » Commissioner Obringer.
[1:19:02] >> Yes.
[1:19:02] » Yes.
[1:19:02] >> Commissioner Altstepper.
[1:19:04] » Commissioner Altstepper.
[1:19:04] >> Yes.
[1:19:05] » Yes.
[1:19:05] >> Commissioner Xavier.
[1:19:06] » Commissioner Xavier.
[1:19:06] >> Hi.
[1:19:06] » Hi.
[1:19:06] >> Vice Chair G.
[1:19:07] » Vice Chair G.
[1:19:08] >> Yes.
[1:19:08] » Yes.
[1:19:08] >> Chair Meadows.
[1:19:09] » Chair Meadows.
[1:19:09] >> Yes.
[1:19:09] » Yes.
[1:19:09] >> Motion passes unanimously.
[1:19:11] » Motion passes unanimously.
[1:19:11] >> Thank you, Terry. That concludes our
[1:19:13] » Thank you, Terry. That concludes our
[1:19:13] regular calendar items.
[1:19:17] Item A, correspondence and
[1:19:19] communications. We have no
[1:19:20] correspondence in this agenda packet. Uh
[1:19:23] item nine, associated committee reports.
[1:19:26] Uh the next item is associated committee
[1:19:29] reports. We have meeting reports in the
[1:19:32] agenda packet from three of the RTPC's.
[1:19:36] Uh item 10, authority board and staff
[1:19:40] comments. Uh chair's comments.
[1:19:44] I I want to thank uh Commissioner
[1:19:46] Bernell for serving on CCTA. This is
[1:19:49] unfortunately his last meeting
[1:19:51] us. But thank you.
[1:19:54] [applause]
[1:20:01] » I have no other comments at this time.
[1:20:03] >> May I say something or is it not my
[1:20:06] » May I say something or is it not my
[1:20:06] turn?
[1:20:08] >> Uh item 10 A, Commissioners [laughter]
[1:20:11] » Uh item 10 A, Commissioners [laughter]
[1:20:11] and exofficial representatives comments
[1:20:13] and reports on activities and meetings.
[1:20:15] Commissioner Bernell.
[1:20:16] >> All right. Thank you. I'd just like to
[1:20:18] » All right. Thank you. I'd just like to
[1:20:18] um say it's been a pleasure to work with
[1:20:21] the board. I worked for so many years on
[1:20:22] the other side of the construction part
[1:20:24] of it and hundreds of millions of
[1:20:26] dollars spent in East Contraosta County
[1:20:28] and seeing how that worked and so being
[1:20:30] here with uh with you all as a policy
[1:20:33] maker has been really eye opening and uh
[1:20:36] this is really important work and I have
[1:20:39] a a new appreciation for what we need to
[1:20:41] do to make sure that we're successful
[1:20:43] moving forward um as uh as CCTA. Also
[1:20:47] just want to say super impressed with um
[1:20:50] Tim and with the team that he has here.
[1:20:53] I mean it's it's A+ level the reports,
[1:20:57] the the expertise and so um we're in
[1:21:00] really good hands in that regard and
[1:21:02] super excited about that. And I also
[1:21:05] just want to say that um love the new
[1:21:07] branding and uh wish I would have stayed
[1:21:10] around long enough to get more swag but
[1:21:12] um have to try to you know get that off
[1:21:15] of some of you guys. But thank you very
[1:21:16] much for just letting me be a part of
[1:21:18] this.
[1:21:19] >> Thank you. Thank you. [applause]
[1:21:24] » Commissioner Kelly.
[1:21:26] >> Oh, we're at board comments. Is that
[1:21:28] » Oh, we're at board comments. Is that
[1:21:28] right? Yeah. So, I just want to report
[1:21:30] on something. Last week, um Candace
[1:21:33] Anderson and I were part of East Bay
[1:21:34] Economic Development Alliance tour of
[1:21:37] the Zuk's manufacturing facility off
[1:21:40] Highway 92 down in Hayward. Um, and it's
[1:21:43] in an old um, uh, Gillig bus uh,
[1:21:46] facility. They Gillig moved out, went to
[1:21:48] Liverour. So, Zuks took it over. It's
[1:21:51] pretty amazing. Two to 300, maybe 400
[1:21:54] square feet, thousand square feet. It's
[1:21:56] huge. Absolutely huge. Racks of all
[1:21:58] kinds of equipment. They have the uh,
[1:22:01] they have 21 stations where they can
[1:22:03] build the Zuks robo taxis with 65
[1:22:05] people. There's robotic elements that
[1:22:08] will lift the heavy parts. And get this,
[1:22:11] they can build when they're up and
[1:22:13] running completely, 5,000 to 10,000 robo
[1:22:16] taxis a year, one every 20 minutes, and
[1:22:19] that includes testing. So, I was really,
[1:22:21] really impressed. And having ridden on
[1:22:24] one of the robo taxis in San Francisco
[1:22:26] this past November, it was just an
[1:22:28] amazing an amazing experience. So, you
[1:22:31] all can sign up to go and take a test
[1:22:33] ride for free in San Francisco. Go to
[1:22:36] the Zuk site. And I talked to the
[1:22:38] government affairs people a little bit
[1:22:40] and one of the things I said was, you
[1:22:42] know, maybe in years to come as they
[1:22:44] ramp up, um, there might be
[1:22:46] opportunities for public agencies to
[1:22:48] partner with them or contract with them
[1:22:50] or use a license to bring something to
[1:22:53] their areas geoenced for first mile,
[1:22:56] last mile to try and solve some of the
[1:22:58] transportation problems that we have
[1:23:00] here. So, uh, stay tuned.
[1:23:03] Commissioner Stepper.
[1:23:05] >> Oh, so
[1:23:07] » Oh, so
[1:23:07] >> never mind.
[1:23:10] » never mind.
[1:23:10] Any other commissioner comments?
[1:23:13] You're a representative.
[1:23:16] >> We're waiting for represent.
[1:23:18] » We're waiting for represent.
[1:23:18] >> I thought you'd already been I thought
[1:23:20] » I thought you'd already been I thought
[1:23:20] you'd already been making comments the
[1:23:21] whole meeting.
[1:23:23] >> Any comments from representatives?
[1:23:27] [clears throat]
[1:23:28] >> Representative
[1:23:29] » Representative
[1:23:29] >> Ren. All right. Thank you. It's great to
[1:23:32] » Ren. All right. Thank you. It's great to
[1:23:32] be here. Good to be back. Uh, alternate
[1:23:34] exeicio board of director Bart person
[1:23:37] [laughter] Matt Red here.
[1:23:39] >> I am running out of titles there, but I
[1:23:41] » I am running out of titles there, but I
[1:23:41] happy to be here
[1:23:44] >> of Pleasant Hill with these two
[1:23:46] » of Pleasant Hill with these two
[1:23:46] >> these two knuckleheads over here. But
[1:23:47] » these two knuckleheads over here. But
[1:23:47] anyways, it's a honor to be here and uh
[1:23:51] good things are happening at BART. Just
[1:23:53] wanted to share uh as we close out 2025.
[1:23:56] Uh we installed all the new fairgates.
[1:23:58] Uh the last thing we did was implement
[1:24:00] the tap to ride which is turning out to
[1:24:02] be a great success. Uh anytime you roll
[1:24:03] out a massive software upgrade like
[1:24:06] that, there's a couple little hiccups,
[1:24:07] but we've kind of worked through most of
[1:24:08] those. We have a few reiterations coming
[1:24:10] down the road. And what that is is for
[1:24:12] those uh who may not know, uh you not
[1:24:14] necessarily need a Clipper card anymore.
[1:24:16] You can just if you're flying into SFO
[1:24:17] or Oakland or something, you can just
[1:24:18] tap a credit card, jump on BART, jump
[1:24:21] off tap it, and get out of the system.
[1:24:23] So a lot more convenient for people.
[1:24:24] We're about 13% tap ratio right now. um
[1:24:28] on those. Uh so we're really excited
[1:24:30] about that. And then yesterday uh many
[1:24:32] of you saw the announcement that BART
[1:24:34] has done a pilot program with Uber and
[1:24:37] we're in negotiations with other TNC
[1:24:39] carriers. So those that uh you know want
[1:24:41] to vote for their favorite TNC carrier.
[1:24:43] There are discussions about those. But
[1:24:44] this pilot program uh through the BART
[1:24:47] app, you will be able to coordinate an
[1:24:49] Uber pickup um or delivery to the
[1:24:51] station. It's all coordinated timing of
[1:24:53] the trains uh the technology behind it.
[1:24:56] Uh part of pickle to Contraosta County
[1:24:59] is BART is offering a $5 diff discount
[1:25:02] uh at the Antioch contra conquered
[1:25:04] station uh Walnut Creek and Richmond uh
[1:25:08] for those those stations.
[1:25:10] >> That's that's the new station.
[1:25:12] » That's that's the new station.
[1:25:12] >> The new
[1:25:13] » The new
[1:25:13] the one I represent half of [laughter]
[1:25:16] >> Do you mean do you mean
[1:25:18] » Do you mean do you mean
[1:25:18] >> and Conquered Station?
[1:25:20] » and Conquered Station?
[1:25:20] >> All those two. Okay.
[1:25:21] » All those two. Okay.
[1:25:21] >> Okay. Those four. I'm sorry. I should
[1:25:22] » Okay. Those four. I'm sorry. I should
[1:25:22] have paused and entered the comment. I
[1:25:24] was just so excited to talk. I just
[1:25:25] ramble some. And then uh also on that uh
[1:25:29] through the BART app uh if you've ever
[1:25:31] used the trip planner feature continues
[1:25:33] to include walking biking options as
[1:25:36] well as other transit bike share,
[1:25:38] scooter share options for getting to and
[1:25:40] from BART stations. Riders can also uh
[1:25:43] customize preferences such as walking,
[1:25:46] biking speeds, or planning their trips.
[1:25:48] to enhance regional transport transit
[1:25:50] coordination. BART's trip planner
[1:25:52] includes schedules for regional rail
[1:25:54] services such as Cal Train, Capital
[1:25:56] Corridor, ACE, as well as buses,
[1:25:59] fairies, and even cable cars. So, just
[1:26:01] wanted to let you know we are continuing
[1:26:04] to innovate and drive transportation.
[1:26:06] >> Thank you, Representative Brand.
[1:26:07] » Thank you, Representative Brand.
[1:26:07] >> Thank you for your time.
[1:26:08] » Thank you for your time.
[1:26:08] >> Before we move on to Representative
[1:26:09] » Before we move on to Representative
[1:26:09] Noak, I'm just glad to see you all from
[1:26:11] Pleasant Hill get along so well.
[1:26:14] >> You like each other so much. It's
[1:26:16] » You like each other so much. It's
[1:26:16] actually posted on Facebook already.
[1:26:19] >> He did call them knuckleheads.
[1:26:21] » He did call them knuckleheads.
[1:26:21] >> I believe it is already posted on
[1:26:22] » I believe it is already posted on
[1:26:22] Facebook. I believe you
[1:26:23] >> or it didn't happen.
[1:26:24] » or it didn't happen.
[1:26:24] >> It did already happen. Yeah.
[1:26:25] » It did already happen. Yeah.
[1:26:25] >> Representative Noak.
[1:26:28] » Representative Noak.
[1:26:28] >> Yeah. Thank you. I'm one of the three
[1:26:29] » Yeah. Thank you. I'm one of the three
[1:26:29] knuckleheads from Pleasant Hill. Um
[1:26:32] still on Pleasant Hill. You two left. Um
[1:26:37] okay. Uh uh yeah, MTC. Sorry, switching
[1:26:41] hats. Um,
[1:26:44] for those of you that are interested in
[1:26:46] the TOC policy
[1:26:48] item,
[1:26:50] uh, part of it will come up next week on
[1:26:54] Wednesday. Uh, and then the second half
[1:26:57] will come in February. First half being
[1:27:00] the allocation of the money between the
[1:27:02] county and the region and how the
[1:27:04] SP12500 million that has to come out of
[1:27:07] that money is being split. Um and then
[1:27:10] monies that might be set aside for a TOC
[1:27:12] incentive program. That that piece is
[1:27:15] going to be voted on next week and then
[1:27:18] the following the following month it
[1:27:20] will be more details of changes to the
[1:27:23] TOC policy as it stands currently. So um
[1:27:29] those a lot of cities are concerned
[1:27:31] about this but a lot of things will get
[1:27:33] squared away and voted on this month and
[1:27:35] next month on the TOC. Uh, and that's
[1:27:38] probably about it. You don't need to
[1:27:40] hear Well, oh, one other thing. Um,
[1:27:42] signatures are starting to be gathered
[1:27:44] for the citizens initiative. Um,
[1:27:48] kickoff is on Friday, uh, at Pleasant
[1:27:51] Hill BART. I understand there are people
[1:27:54] according to Rita. Rita saw them today.
[1:27:57] They're on BART taking, uh, getting
[1:27:59] signatures, but the big kickoff is on
[1:28:01] Friday at five different locations. Um,
[1:28:03] Pleasant Hill BART is uh the Contraosta
[1:28:06] location and that's at 12:30 on Friday,
[1:28:09] right? Yeah. Okay,
[1:28:17] Tim, please provide your report.
[1:28:20] Thank you very much, Chair Meadows, and
[1:28:22] everyone. Um, just my report's actually
[1:28:25] very short today tonight. Um, couple
[1:28:28] things in terms of housekeeping. So, one
[1:28:30] of the things I want to kind of get your
[1:28:32] attention on is we did uh change our
[1:28:35] domain. So, if you might be noticing,
[1:28:38] we're now ccta.ca.gov
[1:28:41] and we moved away from ccda.net. So,
[1:28:44] when you look at our website, it is now
[1:28:45] ccta.ca.gov. We did that on purpose,
[1:28:48] intentionally because it obviously
[1:28:50] better aligns with our mission and
[1:28:52] purpose in terms of being a government
[1:28:53] agency. it's easier to find now CCTA,
[1:28:56] you know, on the internet when people
[1:28:58] are searching, etc. And so it was a very
[1:29:01] kind of important change to kind of
[1:29:03] support, you know, our identity um in
[1:29:05] the digital world um in terms of how
[1:29:07] people find us in search um in this new
[1:29:10] this new world. So we we supported that
[1:29:12] change. All the email addresses um have
[1:29:14] been changed. Um our website's been
[1:29:16] changed, etc. So just want to bring that
[1:29:18] to everyone's attention. Kind of a
[1:29:19] little bit of a housekeeping item. And
[1:29:21] then some of the exciting things that
[1:29:23] have kind of happened since the
[1:29:25] holidays. Um, you know, Ryan and team
[1:29:28] have worked really hard on this
[1:29:30] broadband grant. Um, and so we were I
[1:29:33] sent an email to all of you, but we were
[1:29:35] successful in terms of getting the 15
[1:29:37] million from the California Public
[1:29:38] Utility Commission for the two broadband
[1:29:41] both the wet the the east county and the
[1:29:43] west county um projects. And it's a very
[1:29:46] long drawn out process. Um it's I think
[1:29:49] we must have amended the application
[1:29:50] like 16 17 18 times because the way CPU
[1:29:55] approaches it is they put it out for
[1:29:56] public review and then the other
[1:29:58] existing telecom companies are actually
[1:30:00] able to review and provide comment and
[1:30:03] and protest you know because it's
[1:30:05] competition essent essentially. Um and
[1:30:08] so they uh we so the project based on
[1:30:12] what we submitted and what actually got
[1:30:13] awarded. There were some tweaks along
[1:30:15] the way, you know, but generally the
[1:30:18] program is basically focused on
[1:30:20] providing underserved communities in
[1:30:22] East County and in West County. And when
[1:30:24] we talk about underserved, these are
[1:30:26] folks that have, you know, less than,
[1:30:28] you know, I think what 100 megabytes, I
[1:30:31] think, right, Ryan? 100 megabytes. So
[1:30:33] these are people that have less than 100
[1:30:34] megabytes of internet access. That's
[1:30:36] what underserved is like kind of um
[1:30:39] defined as. So, we're excited to get
[1:30:41] that grant. We're officially in the
[1:30:42] broadband business and so we believe be
[1:30:44] moving to procurement um and working
[1:30:46] with the county and working with those
[1:30:48] cities and those jurisdictions um and
[1:30:50] initiate, you know, initiating and
[1:30:52] implementing that project. The second
[1:30:54] award that we got was a safe streets for
[1:30:57] all grant. Um and I'm going to kind of
[1:31:00] talk a little bit about this in terms of
[1:31:01] DC and kind of the lay of the land, but
[1:31:03] Safe Streets for All is interesting. And
[1:31:05] it's always been like a bike pedestrian
[1:31:07] safety program. And this administration
[1:31:10] has been obviously realigning and and
[1:31:13] kind of resetting priorities for a lot
[1:31:15] of these discretionary grant programs.
[1:31:17] And we actually were awarded um an
[1:31:20] autonomous vehicle communications uh
[1:31:22] grant um out of out of this SS4A grant.
[1:31:26] It's for about just over $3 million. And
[1:31:30] the purpose of the grant is to really
[1:31:32] just uh do a pilot to communicate to
[1:31:36] emergency vehicles with autonomous and
[1:31:38] connected vehicles. So really kind of
[1:31:40] working towards some of the challenges
[1:31:42] that Whimo and crews have had in San
[1:31:44] Francisco with emergency vehicles. And
[1:31:46] so what the project does is once there
[1:31:49] is an incident identified whether it be
[1:31:51] on a highway or a fire the system
[1:31:54] automatically puts a geoence around that
[1:31:57] location and communicates that to all
[1:31:58] the connected autonomous vehicles. So
[1:32:00] that way all the connected Thomas
[1:32:01] vehicles know there's an emergency
[1:32:04] incident occurring you know at this
[1:32:06] location. The next thing is once a
[1:32:08] vehicle's dispatched, police, you know,
[1:32:10] sheriff, fire, we put a moving geoence
[1:32:14] on it and basically that so basically
[1:32:17] the connected Thomas vehicles know where
[1:32:18] that emergency vehicle is in this in the
[1:32:21] network being dispatched to the
[1:32:24] incident. And so, um, this has never
[1:32:27] been done before. Um, when we were in DC
[1:32:30] last week for Transportation Research
[1:32:31] Board, there was an extreme amount of
[1:32:33] buzz around this grant. I specifically
[1:32:35] had emails from the secretary office
[1:32:37] saying that we want to be briefed on
[1:32:39] this grant when you come to DC next
[1:32:40] week. And so um so we were very excited
[1:32:44] about this award. And I will tell you um
[1:32:47] you know in this in these meetings in DC
[1:32:50] both on the policy side which we met
[1:32:52] with Lauren Smith as well on the
[1:32:54] research side we met with Lee White.
[1:32:57] both on both sides of the house. Um
[1:33:00] there's a tremendous amount of interest
[1:33:02] with autonomous vehicles and autonomous
[1:33:04] shuttles. Um when you look at the
[1:33:06] leadership there based with Jonathan
[1:33:08] Morrison, he came from Apple. Seville Oz
[1:33:11] came from um oh my god, but she came
[1:33:13] from the from Silicon Valley. Um Lee
[1:33:16] White came from too simple which is a
[1:33:18] freight autonomous vehicle company. So
[1:33:19] there's a lot of expertise in the
[1:33:22] secretary's office right now surround
[1:33:24] that have autonomous vehicle background
[1:33:26] and they are very focused on how to
[1:33:29] scale and deploy not just Whimo but very
[1:33:32] focused on how to scale and deploy these
[1:33:34] autonomous shuttles um to really support
[1:33:38] public transit and public
[1:33:39] transportation. So there was a there was
[1:33:41] a lot of discussions um and a lot of
[1:33:44] questions on our automated driving
[1:33:46] system grant because we did the
[1:33:48] deployment in Rossmore and Bishop branch
[1:33:50] as well as with county connection on the
[1:33:52] main mobility project and there was a
[1:33:54] lot of interest in terms of how those
[1:33:56] projects were deployed, what did we
[1:33:58] learn from them and how do we plan to
[1:33:59] scale. So, um, we did learn in terms of
[1:34:03] like future discretionary grant
[1:34:04] programs, there will be set aides and
[1:34:08] focus programs directed towards
[1:34:11] autonomous and connected vehicles. Um,
[1:34:14] the smart program is going to be coming
[1:34:15] out that's going to have an autonomous
[1:34:16] vehicle set aside in it. Um, and then
[1:34:19] also build is also out now which will
[1:34:22] have an autonomous vehicle component.
[1:34:23] Um, and then the other one is attain
[1:34:26] which will also have a technology
[1:34:28] autonomous vehicle component. So um as
[1:34:30] you are very aware obviously we're very
[1:34:32] well positioned. We are very considered
[1:34:35] much we're very much considered a leader
[1:34:38] in this space. I mean it's and so um we
[1:34:40] were able to meet all of most of
[1:34:43] everyone in the secretary's office in DC
[1:34:45] and that was very intentional. Number
[1:34:47] one, we talked about the mega grant um
[1:34:49] and all signs were positive on the mega
[1:34:52] grant from the secretary's office. And
[1:34:55] then number two, um, we talked about
[1:34:57] future grant opportunities and we wanted
[1:34:59] to learn more about their priorities,
[1:35:00] which I've kind of have described to
[1:35:02] you. So, um, interesting enough, they
[1:35:05] want a they wanted a shuttle so bad they
[1:35:08] deployed one in Washington DC, and it's
[1:35:10] the first one in DC ever. And
[1:35:13] interesting enough, they're actually
[1:35:14] doing it with one of our partners with
[1:35:15] Beep as well as um, Carson and Addest,
[1:35:19] which is the EJS. and we had the eje at
[1:35:21] Gmentum Station um about 3 or 4 months
[1:35:24] ago. It's a small little mini bus um and
[1:35:29] and so anyway, so it's interesting that
[1:35:31] they're, you know, learning from the
[1:35:33] partners that we've been working with
[1:35:34] relative to the projects that we've been
[1:35:36] doing. So um so there's a lot of
[1:35:38] interest there. The team was in strong
[1:35:40] force at TRB. Um Lindy gave a po gave a
[1:35:44] poster session. Um Danielle was on an AI
[1:35:47] panel. Um and we attended num numerous
[1:35:50] sessions. Um obviously lots of
[1:35:52] networking, very very valuable, an
[1:35:54] intense uh three days, four days in DC
[1:35:57] in terms of um you know kind of really
[1:36:00] continuing to elevate CCTA's presence
[1:36:02] there with the with the new
[1:36:03] administration. Um
[1:36:06] really quick on the other side of the of
[1:36:08] the house here, um the other thing I
[1:36:11] wanted to kind of talk about is speaking
[1:36:13] about innovation is the redefining
[1:36:15] mobility summit. So, I know you should
[1:36:18] have gotten calendar invites. So, that
[1:36:20] has been saved the date for June 16th.
[1:36:23] Um, as well as a demonstration day on
[1:36:25] June 17th. And for those of you that are
[1:36:28] interested, um, and willing to
[1:36:30] participate, um, I encourage you to set
[1:36:33] aside uh time throughout the entire
[1:36:35] week, and I'll explain why. Um, we have
[1:36:37] a a a delegation coming from the
[1:36:40] Netherlands for that entire week. Um,
[1:36:43] and the state of California and CCTA are
[1:36:46] hosting that mission. So, we will have
[1:36:49] the equivalent of the governor from the
[1:36:51] province of North Holland, which is
[1:36:52] called the King's Commissioner, as well
[1:36:54] as the Secretary of Transportation from
[1:36:56] the province of North Holland, as well
[1:36:58] as 35 of his other partners and
[1:37:00] colleagues coming to Contraosta County.
[1:37:03] Um, and the entire program is focused
[1:37:06] around air mobility. And so um so there
[1:37:10] will be uh Monday will be hosted in
[1:37:12] Sacramento with governor's office and
[1:37:14] and policy makers from the governor's
[1:37:16] office around this topic and and also
[1:37:18] around smart mobility. Um and the
[1:37:21] Netherlands call it it's air mobility
[1:37:22] and smart mobility. So still autonomous
[1:37:24] connected intelligent transportation
[1:37:26] system etc. Tuesday is RMS, Wednesday is
[1:37:29] a demo day. The demo day is going to
[1:37:32] include Byron Airport. Um, and we're
[1:37:36] going to be seeing demonstrations from
[1:37:38] Elroy Air as well as Mighty Fly. And
[1:37:41] then we're going to be going all the way
[1:37:42] out to Richmond to go see Glideways. Um,
[1:37:45] and then Thursday is going to be a a
[1:37:48] demonstration by NASA down in Mountain
[1:37:50] View as part of the overall tour. And
[1:37:52] then Friday, we're going to Monterey to
[1:37:53] the drone automation research technology
[1:37:55] to see Joby in action um down there on
[1:37:58] Friday. So, um, high obviously all of
[1:38:02] that is open to all of you and I've
[1:38:04] asked staff to make sure we get this on
[1:38:05] everyone's calendars and holds, etc. to
[1:38:08] make sure that if you want to
[1:38:09] participate, um, you know, you're
[1:38:11] welcome to participate in any way that
[1:38:12] you want. Um, and because of air
[1:38:15] mobility, we are considering moving RMS
[1:38:20] to um to conquer. And so we're going to
[1:38:24] be having the summit in conquered and
[1:38:26] we're kind of looking at venues and
[1:38:27] trying so we will confirm and confirm
[1:38:29] that with all of you. Um and so and it's
[1:38:32] also the demonstration zone will be
[1:38:35] potentially at Buchanan airport and so
[1:38:38] and the idea is to kind of really
[1:38:40] showcase what we're doing with airports
[1:38:41] and everything in Contraost County since
[1:38:43] it will be like an air mobility mission
[1:38:45] and and the important thing about this
[1:38:46] is that you're going to have very highly
[1:38:49] high representatives from the state of
[1:38:51] California coming. So you'll have folks
[1:38:52] from the governor's office. You'll have
[1:38:54] folks from CALR and the sec and the
[1:38:56] California uh secretary of
[1:38:57] transportation's office um as well as
[1:39:00] you know people from the Bay Area etc.
[1:39:02] So it's going to be a really great week,
[1:39:04] great event showcasing Contraosta County
[1:39:07] and all the innovations happening in
[1:39:08] Contraosta County. So um so we'll get
[1:39:10] those get all that information you know
[1:39:12] out to everyone. So I think that was
[1:39:16] everything on my list. Um oh sec last
[1:39:19] thing sorry. So just want to confirm
[1:39:21] it's in the it's in the staff report or
[1:39:23] the executive reg report but December
[1:39:24] 31st the main mobility project has come
[1:39:27] to an end. So we are we are not
[1:39:29] operating autonomous shuttles right now.
[1:39:31] They're all done and complete. So, we
[1:39:34] are in the program evaluation mode
[1:39:36] collecting data and so we will bring
[1:39:38] back to the board sometime in the spring
[1:39:41] um a whole overview in terms of the
[1:39:44] goals, the data, what we've learned and
[1:39:47] all those things in terms of also what
[1:39:49] we're hearing from the National Highway
[1:39:50] Traffic Safet Administration and
[1:39:52] recapping a lot of what we heard in DC
[1:39:55] um and really kind of showing how we're
[1:39:56] kind of targeting for the future um
[1:39:59] around this around the autonomous
[1:40:00] vehicles and and and how to scale and
[1:40:02] deploy in Contra Costa County. So, so
[1:40:05] that'll be a presentation coming. So,
[1:40:08] that's it. Thank you,
[1:40:09] >> Chairman. Thank you, Tim.
[1:40:10] » Chairman. Thank you, Tim.
[1:40:10] >> Item 11, uh, calendar. The calendars
[1:40:13] » Item 11, uh, calendar. The calendars
[1:40:13] were included in the packet.
[1:40:15] Item 12, adjournment. That concludes our
[1:40:18] meeting. This meeting is adjourned at
[1:40:21] 7:42
[1:40:23] p.m.