1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:12,870 One minute. 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:22,790 » Long as it has ever been. 3 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,640 » The time is about 6 PM and we will call 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,840 this meeting to order. 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,630 >> You can join me in prayer. 6 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:30,640 » You can join me in prayer. 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,559 Heavenly Father, standing here in this 8 00:00:32,559 --> 00:00:34,399 room, you have people who have their own 9 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:37,040 worries and difficulties and also their 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,360 own blessings and joys. But one thing we 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,800 all have in common is the desire to do 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,120 what is best for the city of Richwood. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Please hear our prayers for what rests 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,000 heavy on our hearts, but also the 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,680 prayers of thanksgiving for the 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,559 blessings and joys in our lives. Let us 17 00:00:54,559 --> 00:00:57,360 add to these individual prayers ones for 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,879 the city of Richmond, for its 19 00:00:58,879 --> 00:01:00,960 leadership, its volunteers, its first 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,159 responders, and its citizens. Guide us, 21 00:01:04,159 --> 00:01:07,119 protect us, nurture us, and love us. For 22 00:01:07,119 --> 00:01:08,960 without you in our lives, we are 23 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:12,240 nothing. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,270 Amen. 25 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,200 Pledge allegiance to the flag of the 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:18,640 United [clears throat] States of America 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,960 and to the republic for which it stands. 28 00:01:20,960 --> 00:01:23,600 One nation under God indivisible with 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,799 liberty and justice for all. 30 00:01:26,799 --> 00:01:29,190 >> Honor the Texas flagg 31 00:01:29,190 --> 00:01:29,200 » Honor the Texas flagg 32 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,799 to thee Texas. One state under God one 33 00:01:32,799 --> 00:01:39,350 and indivisible. 34 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:46,149 Council 35 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:48,320 member Johnson is absent. Thank you, 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,640 sir. 37 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,310 >> No public comment today. I guess we'll 38 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:52,320 » No public comment today. I guess we'll 39 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,469 move on. 40 00:01:56,479 --> 00:01:58,560 » Mr. Paige, you have the floor. And I I 41 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,560 need to remind our audience that, you 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,719 know, when they show up, our public 43 00:02:02,719 --> 00:02:06,159 comments section is delegated to this 44 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:09,119 andor agenda item. I got out of hand 45 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:10,000 last time. So, 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,990 >> you haven't had Monday to yet. 47 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:12,000 » you haven't had Monday to yet. 48 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,550 >> What's that? 49 00:02:14,550 --> 00:02:14,560 » What's that? 50 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,869 >> One of these days, but I just need to 51 00:02:16,869 --> 00:02:16,879 » One of these days, but I just need to 52 00:02:16,879 --> 00:02:18,560 make sure everybody knows that we need 53 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,239 to stay in line with stuff. We got a 54 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:22,000 little out of hand on stuff. But now the 55 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,440 floor is yours. 56 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,710 >> All right, Mr. D. 57 00:02:26,710 --> 00:02:26,720 » All right, Mr. D. 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,239 I think you said at the end of the 59 00:02:28,239 --> 00:02:30,000 meeting about where you were asking too 60 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 many questions. 61 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,670 >> There's no such thing as too many 62 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:33,680 » There's no such thing as too many 63 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,160 questions. Please ask all the questions 64 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,200 you got. Basically uh you members up 65 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,879 here 66 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:44,720 basically the citizens eyes and ears 67 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,560 your questions are sometimes the only 68 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,080 uh 69 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,840 thing that provides the public actually 70 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,920 insight to decision making things going 71 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:57,360 on city hall sometimes you ask questions 72 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 we won't ask 73 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,360 okay and then I've got another one for 74 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,040 you later 75 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,760 but here goes 76 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,670 that word again transparency 77 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,080 uh it shouldn't apply [snorts] only 78 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,360 to good news. It should also apply the 79 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,560 bad news as well. 80 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Uh for instance, uh that increase in the 81 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:28,000 legal rates that one of the fees was 60 82 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,560 negative 67%. 83 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,400 That's why 84 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,080 I'm asking hopefully at least one of 85 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,840 y'all will ask uh for consent agenda 86 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,560 item F be pulled 87 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,840 uh to actually discuss 88 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,480 uh those rates whether they were up, 89 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,480 down, good, bad, and if not, maybe one 90 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,560 of y'all could at least address it at 91 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,560 the end of the meeting. 92 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,720 Uh 93 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,280 also, uh I did a little bit of research 94 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,680 into how 95 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,319 other cities around us in Missouri 96 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:08,480 County handled their uh budget workshops 97 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,360 every year. I was surprised to find out 98 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,760 Richwood was the only city in Missouri 99 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,519 County with populations under a thousand 100 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:19,840 that actually hold 101 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:22,079 their uh 102 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:26,320 their budget round the one we had last 103 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,400 week in within a city 104 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,240 meeting. Every other city either holds 105 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,280 it a designated area prior to the 106 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:36,880 meeting, usually an hour and a half or 107 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,360 two hour blocked out or on a separate 108 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,800 day. And uh let me read this so I don't 109 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,800 get uh 110 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,199 and maybe the reason the budget workshop 111 00:04:47,199 --> 00:04:50,479 deserves this attention is probably the 112 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:53,600 single most important discussion of the 113 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,800 year affecting citizens financially. 114 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,320 It shouldn't be tucked into an already 115 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,320 packed agenda. I know last one was a 116 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,600 little bit different, but it was really 117 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,919 packed to the point where you actually 118 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:07,199 look around and see members in the 119 00:05:07,199 --> 00:05:09,280 audience and people sitting back here 120 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:11,520 kind of looking at their uh watch, 121 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,600 including myself over there wondering 122 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,639 when is this meeting going to end. 123 00:05:16,639 --> 00:05:18,320 Uh, 124 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,080 so that being said, I just wish maybe 125 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,080 y'all would consider 126 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,400 future years to actually doing that 127 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,800 actually give it either its own special 128 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,440 meeting or an hour and a half prior. 129 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,400 Now, let me get quickly back to yours. 130 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,909 Uh 131 00:05:35,919 --> 00:05:38,560 your question about firefighters should 132 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,840 possibly uh I mean we thought all 133 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,800 volunteers should qualify for the same 134 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,039 uh discount that firefighters get in my 135 00:05:49,039 --> 00:05:51,039 opinion. I'm you know I don't think we 136 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:53,360 really deserve it. But then on the other 137 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,440 hand, 138 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,479 uh for this for these reasons here, 139 00:05:58,479 --> 00:06:01,360 they're on call 247, 140 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,240 risk their lives, responsible for 141 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,759 keeping their gear in working condition. 142 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:10,560 Some of them even have their personal 143 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,120 clothing destroyed when they go to a 144 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,560 meeting. And one of the other things, 145 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,960 rest of us volunteers, 146 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,440 I mean, yeah, we we mostly spend our 147 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,720 time at at uh scheduled meetings, 148 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,160 council, city sponsor. We only do it a 149 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,919 couple of months. I I don't know about 150 00:06:31,919 --> 00:06:33,039 the rest of you, but I don't think I 151 00:06:33,039 --> 00:06:34,560 deserve it. 152 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,120 Uh 153 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,520 and but actually 154 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,000 what I one of the things I rec recently 155 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,560 learned our fire chief is the only 156 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,680 department head who does not have who is 157 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,240 not an hourly employee. 158 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,880 This is despite 159 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,759 all the paperwork, planning, 160 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:58,000 admin, administrative responsibilities 161 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,520 that the job has. 162 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,960 And the chief is the only chief is only 163 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,560 compensated 164 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,400 the same as the other firefighters on 165 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,280 his water bill. 166 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:12,880 This might be a controversial one, but 167 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,319 I'm going to throw this suggestion out 168 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:16,160 here. 169 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Maybe that position deserves the same 170 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,280 $300 a month typing that the head of the 171 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,560 KRB gets receives for uh the 172 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,360 administrative work that she does. 173 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:30,960 Reason being, I mean, of course, you 174 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,360 know, hers is understandable. 175 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,759 Uh she is directly responsible and works 176 00:07:35,759 --> 00:07:39,599 very hard to maintain and do paperwork 177 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:43,039 that keeps our uh star classification 178 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:45,280 and she's the one that gets us to those 179 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,960 grants hopefully vital. 180 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,560 That being said, I think that's all I 181 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,080 have to say. Things 182 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,639 say another word to Mr. M. Thank you 183 00:07:56,639 --> 00:07:59,680 very much. 184 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,199 A few extra minutes left out. 185 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:04,720 Okay, we're going to move on to consent 186 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,960 agenda with no other public comments. 187 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,360 Uh, a approval of revised personnel 188 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,879 policy handbook to reflect current 189 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:14,479 employment practices and update 190 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:16,080 recommended by the city's human 191 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,560 resources consultant. 192 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,919 B, budget report June 2027. C, 193 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:24,080 investment report quarter 3, fiscal year 194 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,599 26. 195 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:27,919 Approval of updated financial policies 196 00:08:27,919 --> 00:08:30,319 for the city of Richwood. Approval of 197 00:08:30,319 --> 00:08:31,919 minutes from regular meeting held June 198 00:08:31,919 --> 00:08:35,039 8, 2026. and then approval minutes for 199 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:36,640 regular health regular health meeting 200 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,670 July 13, 2026. 201 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:44,080 » Yeah, I'd like to make a motion that we 202 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,640 remove uh item eight, the personnel 203 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:53,829 policy handbook from the 204 00:08:53,839 --> 00:08:56,160 second. 205 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,640 I'll second it. 206 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:08,790 All in favor? 207 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,560 I'd like to have a discussion if we 208 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,560 could because I have no idea why we're 209 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:16,710 >> I wanted 210 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:16,720 » I wanted 211 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,200 it. 212 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,949 >> Okay. She 213 00:09:20,959 --> 00:09:23,600 » got it. 214 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,030 >> We have all eyes, 215 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:25,040 » We have all eyes, 216 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,150 >> zero nays. Motion carries on that. Uh, 217 00:09:28,150 --> 00:09:28,160 » zero nays. Motion carries on that. Uh, 218 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,240 as far as the rest, 219 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,910 how do you vote, council? 220 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,720 » I need a motion for B through F. 221 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,910 >> I'll make a motion that we uh approve 222 00:09:41,910 --> 00:09:41,920 » I'll make a motion that we uh approve 223 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,720 the minutes I mean items B through F. 224 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,230 >> Okay, 225 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:48,240 » Okay, 226 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,440 second. Second. 227 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,750 >> Okay. All in favor? I 228 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:51,760 » Okay. All in favor? I 229 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,750 >> Okay. Record. Let the record reflect 230 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:53,760 » Okay. Record. Let the record reflect 231 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,720 everything carries. be correct. A will 232 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,600 be tabled. 233 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,240 Okay. Discussion and action items. A 234 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,839 consideration and possible action to 235 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:06,640 adopt ordinance number 26-542 amending 236 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,279 chapter 14 article 4 of the code of 237 00:10:09,279 --> 00:10:11,040 ordinances regarding outdoor burning by 238 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,519 establishing criteria for the issuance 239 00:10:13,519 --> 00:10:16,560 denial suspension revocation of burn 240 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:18,240 permits providing an administrative 241 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,440 appeals process and providing for sever 242 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,920 severability appeal of conflicting 243 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,160 ordinances and effective an effective 244 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,200 date 245 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,509 >> council this is the same ordinance that 246 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:29,519 » council this is the same ordinance that 247 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:31,200 was presented last month I I won't take 248 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,120 your I'm workshopping again. That was 249 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,600 the point of last month. So, um I'm just 250 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,160 bringing this back to you to adopt. Um 251 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,440 had conversations with the fire 252 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,760 department and I believe this meets 253 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,600 their request of having clear defined 254 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,600 terms of what an approved burn would be. 255 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,040 We've also kind of workshopped some 256 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:48,880 procedural 257 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,320 things that could help them approve 258 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,640 burns and help residents know what will 259 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,920 be an approved burn and what would not 260 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,000 be an approved burn. We're going to do 261 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,160 graphics and pass things out to 262 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,519 residents as they come in and apply for 263 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:04,870 burns. 264 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,480 I'd like to make a motion that we adopt 265 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,440 ordinance [snorts] number 26-542 266 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,399 amending chapter 14 article four of the 267 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:17,360 code of ordinances regarding outdoor 268 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,920 burning. 269 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:20,870 >> I'll second. 270 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:20,880 » I'll second. 271 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,150 >> Okay. All in favor? 272 00:11:22,150 --> 00:11:22,160 » Okay. All in favor? 273 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,550 >> I the record reflect. The motion 274 00:11:24,550 --> 00:11:24,560 » I the record reflect. The motion 275 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:28,320 carries. Thank you, gentlemen. On to B. 276 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,920 Public hearing and possible action on a 277 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,360 proposed crime control and prevention 278 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,360 district budget for fiscal year 2026 279 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,079 2027. 280 00:11:36,079 --> 00:11:38,959 U mayor and council, this is um kind of 281 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:41,440 a housekeeping thing required by our 282 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,160 ordinance um that uh the CCPD budget 283 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,640 come to you for approval. Um public 284 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,600 hearing if anyone in the audience has 285 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,040 any questions about it. Um, this budget 286 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,959 was approved by the CCPD board um at 287 00:11:58,959 --> 00:12:04,000 their last meeting. Um, and so 288 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,240 that we're doing 289 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,040 so everything's good there. 290 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,829 >> Okay, we just need a motion on that. 291 00:12:13,829 --> 00:12:13,839 » Okay, we just need a motion on that. 292 00:12:13,839 --> 00:12:18,240 Well, as leaison for 66, I'd like to 293 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,079 make a motion that we uh adopt the uh 294 00:12:22,079 --> 00:12:28,790 proposed budget for fiscal year 206. 295 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,079 » Okay. All in favor? 296 00:12:30,079 --> 00:12:34,150 >> I Okay, the motion carries. 297 00:12:34,150 --> 00:12:34,160 » I Okay, the motion carries. 298 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,949 >> Thank you. Moving on to C. 299 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:36,959 » Thank you. Moving on to C. 300 00:12:36,959 --> 00:12:39,200 discussion and possible action to adopt 301 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,760 ordinance number 26-543 amending 302 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,000 appendix B fe schedule the code of 303 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,200 ordinances to revise utility rates 304 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,160 first of all um thank you Mr. done. Um, 305 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,399 in the packet, I thought I printed it, 306 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,079 but I 307 00:12:56,079 --> 00:13:00,160 um the crossed out uh rates are not the 308 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,480 current rates. They're two years ago. 309 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:03,920 So, if [snorts] there's any confusion, 310 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,800 but the the new rates included in your 311 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,320 packet 312 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,639 um reflect the 5% increase that we 313 00:13:10,639 --> 00:13:14,880 discussed at the last meeting. Um so um 314 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,920 we're just asking you to approve uh a 315 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,680 new rate for water base bill of 4455 316 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:26,399 and then the next tier if they go over 317 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:29,360 2,000 gallons would be 729. 318 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:35,920 U for um over 20,000 it would go to 758. 319 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,920 The uh sewer rate would increase 3142. 320 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,079 The next tier over 2,000 gallons would 321 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:47,350 be $545. 322 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,839 And then all the uh the senior citizen 323 00:13:49,839 --> 00:13:52,480 discount is a percentage. It doesn't 324 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,000 need to be changed. Multi-units are um 325 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,480 multiplication of those base rates. So 326 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,680 they would change accordingly. 327 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,800 Any questions? 328 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,629 >> Senior citizen discount wasn't new, 329 00:14:06,629 --> 00:14:06,639 » Senior citizen discount wasn't new, 330 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:09,199 right? It just hasn't. So, it used to be 331 00:14:09,199 --> 00:14:12,399 a I think it was 750 for water and 750 332 00:14:12,399 --> 00:14:16,560 for sewer 3 to four years ago. Um, we 333 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:18,480 brought it to council because it wasn't 334 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,160 growing as the water bill grew. So, it 335 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,880 became a a smaller benefit. So, we 336 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,279 changed to a percentage. 337 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:27,590 >> We haven't advertised it very much. Is 338 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:27,600 » We haven't advertised it very much. Is 339 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,040 that what we got? 340 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,949 >> We occasionally put something out on the 341 00:14:30,949 --> 00:14:30,959 » We occasionally put something out on the 342 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:31,760 bills. 343 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,829 >> I think the last month we put it out. 344 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:33,839 » I think the last month we put it out. 345 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:36,160 Yes, I just did and put it out again. 346 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,639 And we've had quite a few people calling 347 00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:40,240 and coming in. 348 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,870 >> Um we try to promote it. It's difficult 349 00:14:42,870 --> 00:14:42,880 » Um we try to promote it. It's difficult 350 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,920 sometimes for us to say, "Oh, are you 351 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,600 signed up for the senior citizen 352 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:48,880 discount?" And they'd say, "Why? I'm 353 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,519 only 58." You know, 354 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:54,949 >> so um so we do what we can. 355 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:54,959 » so um so we do what we can. 356 00:14:54,959 --> 00:14:57,829 >> It falls back under one more question. 357 00:14:57,829 --> 00:14:57,839 » It falls back under one more question. 358 00:14:57,839 --> 00:14:59,920 The people that live in the apartments, 359 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,720 senior citizens that live in apartments, 360 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,279 I know y'all don't pay a water bill. 361 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:07,199 Yes, we pay a water bill. in your rent. 362 00:15:07,199 --> 00:15:09,110 >> Do they get a tent? 363 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:09,120 » Do they get a tent? 364 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,150 >> It is not incorporated into that. No. 365 00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:12,160 » It is not incorporated into that. No. 366 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,470 >> See, that's that's and I understand that 367 00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:14,480 » See, that's that's and I understand that 368 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,440 because that's just part of Texas. 369 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,870 >> That is something we could look at in 370 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:18,880 » That is something we could look at in 371 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,560 the future. Um see how that would be 372 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,160 administered. 373 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,680 Um 374 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,750 >> I've never thought of it quite honest. 375 00:15:27,750 --> 00:15:27,760 » I've never thought of it quite honest. 376 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:29,990 >> Well, that and 377 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:30,000 » Well, that and 378 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,079 it would be hard to make sure that the 379 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:34,480 apartments are relaying that discount we 380 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,199 give them. 381 00:15:35,199 --> 00:15:37,430 >> It's true. Like even if we were to say, 382 00:15:37,430 --> 00:15:37,440 » It's true. Like even if we were to say, 383 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,880 "How many seniors do you have that live 384 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,720 in your complex?" And they tell us and 385 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,160 so we give them a discount based on 386 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:42,800 that. 387 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,230 >> I have no way to make sure that they're 388 00:15:44,230 --> 00:15:44,240 » I have no way to make sure that they're 389 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,990 going to pass that on. 390 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:48,639 » Yes, 391 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:49,910 >> I truly do. 392 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:49,920 » I truly do. 393 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,030 >> But it's something that can 394 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:51,040 » But it's something that can 395 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,470 >> I mean, we can get to it way to 396 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:54,480 » I mean, we can get to it way to 397 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,870 >> Well, it it's and I might be off off 398 00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:58,880 » Well, it it's and I might be off off 399 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,279 topic here a little bit, but it's like 400 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:03,040 my my apartment is a three-bedroom 401 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,639 apartment. Mhm. 402 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:07,189 >> They charge they my water bill is based 403 00:16:07,189 --> 00:16:07,199 » They charge they my water bill is based 404 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:09,680 on that square foot in that threebedroom 405 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,440 apartment. You live in there and you 406 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,519 live in a onebedroom apartment. Yours is 407 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:15,839 your water bill is calculated on a 408 00:16:15,839 --> 00:16:18,000 onebedroom apartment. 409 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,550 >> So see that and they're charged the same 410 00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:20,560 » So see that and they're charged the same 411 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,079 for every apartment. 412 00:16:24,079 --> 00:16:27,199 So that right there 413 00:16:27,199 --> 00:16:30,399 makes her argument pretty mad. So but we 414 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:32,560 can look into it. Um, it's too late for 415 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,880 this year, but for going forward, we 416 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,320 could look into it because it's a valid 417 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:36,800 point. 418 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,350 >> It's too late for me. 419 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:50,069 » Any other questions? 420 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:51,519 » The public packet's been updated with 421 00:16:51,519 --> 00:17:03,110 the correct previous numbers. Just 422 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,039 must be done and say we adopt ordinance 423 00:17:07,039 --> 00:17:12,319 number 26543 amending appendix B your fe 424 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:16,160 schedule code of ordinance for you to 425 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,429 revise utility rates 426 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:22,640 okay all in favor 427 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,069 >> I 428 00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:24,079 » I 429 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:24,710 >> okay 430 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:24,720 » okay 431 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,470 >> just a note on that it'll take effect 432 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:26,480 » just a note on that it'll take effect 433 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,960 101 the First water bill that'll be 434 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,559 affected would be the bill sent out 435 00:17:32,559 --> 00:17:34,720 October 25th. 436 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,600 No, November November 25th through 437 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,200 December 10th. 438 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,029 >> So they won't see this immediately. 439 00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:43,039 » So they won't see this immediately. 440 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:44,230 >> But in the meantime, we can get 441 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:44,240 » But in the meantime, we can get 442 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:44,720 something 443 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:49,029 >> we'll get a 444 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:51,760 for the record. The motion carried. 445 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,360 Uh move on to D. discussion only 446 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:56,799 regarding the proposed budget and 447 00:17:56,799 --> 00:17:58,960 proposed tax rate for fiscal year 2026 448 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,400 2027. No action will be taken. 449 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,310 >> So I gave you each a copy of this. Um I 450 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:06,320 » So I gave you each a copy of this. Um I 451 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:07,679 made sure and put a cover on here 452 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:10,320 because I don't want anybody out in the 453 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,919 public thinking this is our final 454 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:15,280 budget. Um but this is as it sits today. 455 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,880 Um our budget can change sometimes um 456 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,440 without warning um until we get it 457 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,840 approved. The only number I'm waiting 458 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,400 on, we have not been able to get our 459 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,640 premiums for our property liability and 460 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,200 auto um policy. Um but they should be 461 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,679 coming any day. I will have them before 462 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:39,120 we approve in September. Um 463 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:42,559 so I want to talk about tax rate. 464 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:50,230 Um so you have 465 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,280 Okay. So this slide is just um giving 466 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,080 you a snapshot of where our revenue is. 467 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,400 Um I'm going to present to you some 468 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,160 options for our tax rate. This is built 469 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,760 on the highest option I'm giving you. Um 470 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,760 it's the highest option we have that we 471 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,840 can go to without risk of it going to a 472 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,799 ballot at the election time. um it um 473 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:16,880 would show that our total revenue is 474 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,360 4,000 475 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:23,039 4 million. Um one reason I show you this 476 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:26,080 is just to show you how dependent we are 477 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,480 on property tax. Um 70.29% 478 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,880 of our projected revenue is from 479 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,559 property tax in the general fund. 480 00:19:36,559 --> 00:19:39,039 um sales tax comes in a distant second 481 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:41,120 at 21.17 482 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:42,880 and then the other things make up the 483 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,280 rest. So I just wanted you to see some 484 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,440 cities property tax is not 485 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,400 that big. Um but we don't have a lot of 486 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,390 other revenue. So, okay. Next. 487 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,240 Okay. So, at the top of the sheet, um 488 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,200 you'll see our current tax rate um for 489 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:06,960 this existing 490 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:12,000 um year is 0.557993 491 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,200 for every $100 of assessed value of 492 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,720 that. 493 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,120 M which is maintenance and operation for 494 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:20,960 the general fund. That's the money 495 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,000 that's used to operate the city not 496 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,280 counting um the water and sewer um is 497 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,919 466352. 498 00:20:31,919 --> 00:20:35,760 The next number is our INS or debt rate. 499 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,480 This is calculated by the county to give 500 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,679 us what we need to assess on our taxable 501 00:20:43,679 --> 00:20:48,240 values to re or to bring in enough money 502 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,720 to pay our debt requirements for the 503 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,520 next year. So that number is fixed by 504 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,799 the county. We can't fudge on that. So 505 00:20:56,799 --> 00:20:58,559 um 506 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:01,120 so the um 507 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:06,240 tax year 26 which is fiscal year 27 508 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,360 um that we're working on it the INS rate 509 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:14,240 it has been set by the county at 082239 510 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,600 per $100 of taxable value. So it has 511 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:23,830 gone down um 0.009402. 512 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Our taxable value when I was here a 513 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,120 month ago and I gave you our estimated 514 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:32,640 taxable value it was 577 515 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,760 million. When we got our certified it 516 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,400 went down 551 517 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,360 million657986. 518 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,799 So it is an increase from last year of 519 00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:49,200 1.8% 8% but it is significantly lower 520 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,559 than what I showed you last month. Um 521 00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:55,520 this is due to protests 522 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,400 primarily. Um again we have no control 523 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,400 over that. 524 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,919 Um I'm going to be talking about 525 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:03,840 different kinds of rates. The no new 526 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,000 revenue rate will be if you take the 527 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,520 exact same properties that were on the 528 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,159 tax roll last year, 529 00:22:10,159 --> 00:22:11,919 you come up with a tax rate that will 530 00:22:11,919 --> 00:22:14,159 give you that same revenue you got last 531 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:16,799 year. that rate varies because of the 532 00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:19,440 debt rate and their assessed values that 533 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,799 they went up. Um, so that's the no new 534 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:26,480 revenue rate. The voter approval rate 535 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,799 allows cities to gain a bit on the 536 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:35,120 revenue. Um, for cities under 30,000 537 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:39,840 population, which is us, we can go up 8% 538 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,640 from the no new revenue rate. Cities 539 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,799 over 30,000 can only go up three and a 540 00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:46,640 half. 541 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,320 If you go higher than this, then you 542 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,080 risk going to uh that a a resident can 543 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,240 do start a petition and it'll go on the 544 00:22:54,240 --> 00:23:00,960 ballot. So, um I have spoken wrong in 545 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,720 past years. 546 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,240 I'll just tell you that. I'm admitting 547 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,960 it. I thought once you reduced your tax 548 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,159 rate from your maximum that you lost 549 00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:13,120 revenue forever. Well, I didn't know 550 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,240 because we've never done this before. Um 551 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,640 there's an unused incremental rate that 552 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,799 the county calculates if you didn't go 553 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:26,480 with your V or voter approval rate. We 554 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,919 went below that last year. So the um 555 00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:33,039 county calculated that we have an unused 556 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:37,520 incremental rate of 0007743 557 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,120 which is then added to the B. Um this is 558 00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:44,080 to help to keep cities from losing that 559 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,799 revenue over and over again. 560 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:50,000 So I admit I was wrong. 561 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,270 >> Iated the day that she told me I said I 562 00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:53,280 » Iated the day that she told me I said I 563 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,640 made sure I mark down when you were 564 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:54,960 wrong. 565 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,029 >> Yeah. It doesn't happen very often. 566 00:23:59,029 --> 00:23:59,039 » Yeah. It doesn't happen very often. 567 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:01,520 Okay. So 568 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,039 this chart um our existing rate as I 569 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:09,029 said earlier is 0.557993. 570 00:24:09,039 --> 00:24:11,279 Um it brings in a total levy to the 571 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:14,880 general fund of 2624535 572 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,240 if we collected 100%. 573 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,960 The county also calculates our 574 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,679 anticipated collection rate. So they're 575 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:25,520 saying we're only going to get 98.69% 576 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,520 69% of what we levy. As you can see 577 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,480 below there, we used to be at 103.2, 578 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,320 which I'm not real sure how you get 579 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,600 more, but they said that we've got gone 580 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,760 down every year to where now we're 581 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,990 expected to only get 98.69. 582 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,880 So, if you apply that figure to the 583 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,159 total levy, you come up with a levy of 584 00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:53,990 2,590,154. 585 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,720 This is an increase from 586 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,120 and this is if we had our existing rate 587 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:02,400 on our current our new certified it 588 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,950 would increase our revenue by 62,59 589 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,840 and our change our bottom line on the 590 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:16,149 general fund would be a positive $16,15. 591 00:25:16,159 --> 00:25:17,919 If we went to the no new revenue rate, 592 00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:20,320 which as I explained is keeping it the 593 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,600 same as as last year, um for those 594 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,840 existing properties, we would actually 595 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,159 go negative in our general fund of 596 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:29,919 25,54. 597 00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:32,080 And again, this is all projected based 598 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,720 on assumptions. 599 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,120 If we went to the 3 and a half% V, which 600 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:44,080 is what cities over 30,000 can do, um, 601 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,880 we would have a net increase on our fund 602 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,760 balance of 105,000. 603 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,400 And if we went to our maximum, 604 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,310 it would be 220,541. 605 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,080 Now this is assuming we hit every number 606 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,880 in the budget straight on. You know 607 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,919 these are budgets are educated guesses. 608 00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:13,600 So um so that is the the V 8% 609 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,559 is the one that is I've built this 610 00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:18,799 budget on. 611 00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:22,480 I can change it. I just always push for 612 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,360 that because 613 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,000 you know I think we have a lot of 614 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,200 building to do going forward but it is 615 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,679 ultimately up to you guys. Um this also 616 00:26:35,679 --> 00:26:39,360 uses or includes that unused incremental 617 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,120 rate 618 00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:46,799 of um what was it? 007 something that's 619 00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:49,919 been added to the the two VS. 620 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:52,799 If we took away that unused incremental 621 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:56,080 rate, that would reduce any of these 622 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,149 levies by $42,155 623 00:27:00,159 --> 00:27:03,120 that's in that box. 624 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,240 So, I'm giving you a lot of options. We 625 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,039 have these four rates, but we also have 626 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:13,120 the VS without the incremental on them, 627 00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:18,240 which would take that down to roughly 628 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:24,000 60,000 and 180,000 positive. 629 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,799 So that is um the options I'm giving 630 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:32,720 you. Then the next page, 631 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,559 this is what these rates would have, 632 00:27:36,559 --> 00:27:38,480 what effect they would have on a 633 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,840 property. Um, I highlighted the 250,000 634 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,520 because that's the closest on this chart 635 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,080 to our median value of a home. So, the 636 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,720 majority of of our homeowners would feel 637 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,080 whatever we do at the 250,000. 638 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,559 Um, so at our current rate, if we didn't 639 00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:01,120 change our tax rate at all, their tax 640 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,200 bill from Richwood would be $1,395. 641 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,760 If we go to the highest, 642 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,200 it would be $1,488 643 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,360 or about $90, 644 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:14,960 um, 645 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:19,200 $86 different for the year, just to tell 646 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,880 you how that chart works. Any questions 647 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,679 on any of that? I'm throwing a lot of 648 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:29,120 terms and a lot of numbers at you and 649 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,240 it's it's kind of like hearing Greek. 650 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,990 >> Can we go back to that last one? 651 00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:34,000 » Can we go back to that last one? 652 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,110 >> What's that? 653 00:28:35,110 --> 00:28:35,120 » What's that? 654 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,789 >> Can we go back to the last one? 655 00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:36,799 » Can we go back to the last one? 656 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:40,070 >> Yeah. 657 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,360 So, u 658 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,880 it looked like when I looked at the 659 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,120 budget, I didn't have access to this new 660 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,720 one, but when I looked at the last one, 661 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,799 it uh looked like almost every 662 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:55,200 department in the city was under budget 663 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,960 on the proposed budget compared to uh 664 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,720 the current budget. Is that correct? 665 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,909 >> Like our current just spending in 666 00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:01,919 » Like our current just spending in 667 00:29:01,919 --> 00:29:02,640 general. 668 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,430 >> Yeah. 669 00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:05,440 » Yeah. 670 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,310 >> Yeah. our expenditures have have gone 671 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:08,320 » Yeah. our expenditures have have gone 672 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,640 down um in the general fund. 673 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,399 Find it here. Um this the current budget 674 00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:18,559 we're living in right now, our 675 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,760 expenditures were 3.4 million and we're 676 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,520 proposing 3.3. So they've gone down 677 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,120 about 100,000 um overall for each one of 678 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,919 the departments. Um 679 00:29:31,919 --> 00:29:35,200 some of that uh last year public works 680 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,080 got a new truck. Um you know there were 681 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,080 other things that are not happening this 682 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,880 year. We had some engineering costs in 683 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:48,070 in the general fund I think. 684 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,919 » Anyway, there's things that are 685 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:51,360 happening. 686 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,630 >> Well, that's what I'm curious current 687 00:29:52,630 --> 00:29:52,640 » Well, that's what I'm curious current 688 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,799 year that are not going to happen this 689 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,440 next year. the voter approval rate of 690 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,440 7.9 or 8% that's $220,000 691 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,919 at the end of next year added to the 692 00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:04,880 budget. Correct. 693 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:05,830 >> Added to 694 00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:05,840 » Added to 695 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,430 >> that means that if you add all your 696 00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:07,440 » that means that if you add all your 697 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,669 >> revenue that year mark or something or 698 00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:09,679 » revenue that year mark or something or 699 00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:10,320 why would 700 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,310 >> no that um so that is what you get to 701 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:14,320 » no that um so that is what you get to 702 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,159 when you add all your revenues and take 703 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:18,159 out all your expenditures. We'd have 704 00:30:18,159 --> 00:30:20,399 220,000 left. 705 00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:23,029 >> But not to cut you off but we missed you 706 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:23,039 » But not to cut you off but we missed you 707 00:30:23,039 --> 00:30:24,799 last month. Wait, did you watch back the 708 00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:26,159 meeting when we talked about adding to 709 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:27,120 the same capital? 710 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:27,669 >> Right. 711 00:30:27,669 --> 00:30:27,679 » Right. 712 00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:31,350 >> Um, so we took your 713 00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:31,360 » Um, so we took your 714 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,200 comment from that we had when we were 715 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,840 talking about earmarking money and we 716 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,200 requested to do that. and we built that 717 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,960 in and then this would yes be the 718 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,399 additional unrestricted unallocated 719 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:45,110 >> so 720 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:45,120 » so 721 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,159 um 722 00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:48,870 >> one thing 723 00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:48,880 » one thing 724 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200 as I said earlier our budget is an 725 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,000 educated yes we don't know what fiscal 726 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,360 year 27 is going to do um so I like to 727 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,279 have some cushion 728 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:01,600 for ups and downs 729 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,159 um to keep us from going negative 730 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:07,279 um that's saying we have to have 731 00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:08,960 220,000. 732 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,440 If we don't if it came in exactly what 733 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,360 I'm projecting right now and we had 734 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,799 220,000 left on 930, it would just add 735 00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:19,840 to our fund balance for a general fund 736 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,080 which can be then put wherever we want. 737 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,149 >> It can we can use fund balance for a 738 00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:26,159 » It can we can use fund balance for a 739 00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:27,279 project in the next year. 740 00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:29,350 >> Yeah. So um 741 00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:29,360 » Yeah. So um 742 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,789 >> it can help clip 743 00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:30,799 » it can help clip 744 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:31,590 >> of course 745 00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:31,600 » of course 746 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,590 >> it could help clip on the general fund 747 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:33,600 » it could help clip on the general fund 748 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,159 side. 749 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,710 >> Yeah. We technically we could with 750 00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:36,720 » Yeah. We technically we could with 751 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,120 council approval transfer it to utility 752 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,919 projects as well. 753 00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:41,509 >> I guess it could be all budgets. 754 00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:41,519 » I guess it could be all budgets. 755 00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:42,389 >> Yeah. 756 00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:42,399 » Yeah. 757 00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:44,070 >> So 758 00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:44,080 » So 759 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,279 I feel like my job is to tell you best 760 00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,440 case scenario with the tax rate that 761 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,960 would get us there. Um this does not 762 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440 mean we have to do this. Last year 763 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,159 council voted they wanted me to 764 00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:00,799 calculate a rate that left a $100,000 765 00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:02,559 bottom line. 766 00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:06,000 Um, to me that was a 767 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,159 it's still a guess, you know, that we'd 768 00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:11,760 get to that. Um, but if you look at this 769 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,919 chart, the V3.5 770 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:20,080 gets us right about there. Um, 771 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,919 I don't want to do the negative one. 772 00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:23,519 I'll just tell you guys that. And if you 773 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:26,240 vote on that, that's your choice. But I 774 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,480 don't recommend it. Um the existing rate 775 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,720 in my mind is a little too close for 776 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,960 comfort. I don't want to go negative. Um 777 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,640 so I would um 778 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,600 I think we need to take advantage of 779 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,840 that unused incremental rate. 780 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720 But if you we can do that on either of 781 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,480 the VS. 782 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,440 If you wanted to do the VA 8% without 783 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,399 that, that would lower the rate by a 784 00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:02,320 little bit. 0.77. 785 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,039 So that would bring us in in that area 786 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,080 between the two. Um we could do the V 787 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,760 3.5 without that. Um that would bring us 788 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,320 in at about 60,000 789 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,799 net. Again, to me that's a little too 790 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:22,000 close. Um, but we are I used to like to 791 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,360 say that I wanted 300,000 792 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,360 but we weren't doing the reserves like 793 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,760 we are now. We have increased reserve 794 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,679 spending or not reserve spending, 795 00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:34,640 reserve saving. Um, we have started 796 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,240 putting into the capital improvement 797 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,640 fund with this budget. We're still 798 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,600 putting some into the contingency fund 799 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,399 to bring it to 2 million. And those 800 00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:48,559 numbers will vary until right before 801 00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:50,720 budget when I can get as close to exact 802 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,600 as I can. Um, but those two numbers will 803 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,919 total to 10% of expenditures. Um, so 804 00:33:57,919 --> 00:34:01,360 it's really um 805 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,919 it's where you guys as a as a council 806 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:11,839 want to see us go and um where you want 807 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:15,919 us going forward. Um I can only present 808 00:34:15,919 --> 00:34:17,200 to you 809 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,950 >> question 810 00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:18,960 » question 811 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,520 is a 3.5 812 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,359 lock I mean is that a hard number? Yes, 813 00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:27,510 >> it can't it can't be changed like the 814 00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:27,520 » it can't it can't be changed like the 815 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,320 8%. 816 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,470 >> We don't we can pick any number 817 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:30,480 » We don't we can pick any number 818 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,200 whatsoever between the NNR and the V8%. 819 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,919 You guys could pick a number anywhere in 820 00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:38,879 that range. 821 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:40,310 >> Like you could pick 5%. 822 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:40,320 » Like you could pick 5%. 823 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,589 >> You could. Yes. 824 00:34:41,589 --> 00:34:41,599 » You could. Yes. 825 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,310 >> Okay. Okay. That I I [laughter] locked 826 00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:44,320 » Okay. Okay. That I I [laughter] locked 827 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:44,800 in. 828 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,069 >> These are just 829 00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:46,079 » These are just 830 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:46,790 >> hypothetical. 831 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:46,800 » hypothetical. 832 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,790 >> These are just the options the county 833 00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:48,800 » These are just the options the county 834 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:49,839 gives us. 835 00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:50,389 >> Okay. 836 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:50,399 » Okay. 837 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:53,829 >> Um and a general standard. Yes. But you 838 00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:53,839 » Um and a general standard. Yes. But you 839 00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:54,399 can go. 840 00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:56,790 >> Um, but you know, last year when they 841 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:56,800 » Um, but you know, last year when they 842 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200 had me calculate to bring the proposed 843 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,040 budget to 100,000 positive bottom line, 844 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,119 that wasn't any of these numbers. That 845 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:06,640 was somewhere 846 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,349 >> in between. 847 00:35:07,349 --> 00:35:07,359 » in between. 848 00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:07,910 >> Okay. 849 00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:07,920 » Okay. 850 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,150 >> Trish, can you explain the recapture? 851 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:10,160 » Trish, can you explain the recapture? 852 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,119 And did you and you told me this, you 853 00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,440 said it, they recapture the prior three 854 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,720 years. So, if they choose to adopt a 855 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,880 rate that doesn't recapture next year, 856 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,160 we'll get that we'll get another 857 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,800 recapture rate. They go over those for 858 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,839 that unused incremental rate. They go 859 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:29,920 back three years. So last year um it was 860 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,680 47,000 that we didn't capture because we 861 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,800 went below the V. So that was 47,000 of 862 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,000 revenue we didn't get last year. So that 863 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,760 revenue now they figured out what rate 864 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,880 we would need to get to get that revenue 865 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,119 this year. So we lost it last year, but 866 00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:51,119 we can get it this year. 867 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:54,800 if we don't use that rate or if we go 868 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,280 somewhere in between the you know 869 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,760 anything below the V plus that and it's 870 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,560 they base it on the V 3.5 not the 8. Um 871 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,720 they go back three years. So this year 872 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,480 we only had one year because the other 873 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,160 two years we went the full amount. Um 874 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,040 next year if we didn't we'd have two 875 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,800 years with their children together. So 876 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,920 it would be the 47,000 this year and you 877 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,720 know 32,000 or whatever the next year. 878 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:28,790 >> If we did at least 3.5 this year 879 00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:28,800 » If we did at least 3.5 this year 880 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,560 next year would they give us that 47 as 881 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,640 an option again or is it like 882 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,750 >> Okay. So it's still just those three 883 00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:33,760 » Okay. So it's still just those three 884 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,400 years until until they fall off. Yes. 885 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,119 Okay. 886 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:38,630 >> I just wanted to give them all the 887 00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:38,640 » I just wanted to give them all the 888 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:39,680 things to think about. 889 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:40,630 >> Yeah. So you use 890 00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:40,640 » Yeah. So you use 891 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:41,990 >> this is new for all of us. We have not 892 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:42,000 » this is new for all of us. We have not 893 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,359 had this happen with us. 894 00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:44,950 >> I didn't know it existed because we've 895 00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:44,960 » I didn't know it existed because we've 896 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,280 never gone below the B while I've been 897 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,680 here. Um, 898 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,000 so it's based on the last three years. 899 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,240 You lose the money the year you don't go 900 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,960 that full rate. And if we didn't do it 901 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,160 this year, we're losing it for the 902 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,320 second year, but we still have that 903 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,390 option to get it two more years. 904 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,760 » Question for you. 905 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,589 >> You may not know the numbers off top of 906 00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:07,599 » You may not know the numbers off top of 907 00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,320 your head. Does the 3.4 908 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,400 million or 3.1 909 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,750 expenditures this year 910 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,440 Does that include the money that was set 911 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,480 aside for the U contingency funds and 912 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:26,870 >> no 913 00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:26,880 » no 914 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,990 >> general fund? 915 00:37:27,990 --> 00:37:28,000 » general fund? 916 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,950 >> No. So if you look at 917 00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:30,960 » No. So if you look at 918 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,550 >> I don't know what I should have these 919 00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:32,560 » I don't know what I should have these 920 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,839 pages numbered. Um but the page that the 921 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:39,119 first category says emergency disaster 922 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:44,390 it's about fifth page I think. 923 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,079 So a little over halfway down it says 924 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:49,670 total expenditures. 925 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,160 » So 926 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,829 >> So it says 34 927 00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:51,839 » So it says 34 928 00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:54,150 >> 3.346 929 00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:54,160 » 3.346 930 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,119 is our projected expenditures 931 00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:01,270 >> and we brought in 3.8 932 00:38:01,270 --> 00:38:01,280 » and we brought in 3.8 933 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,480 this year. So we had a $400,000 surplus 934 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,920 this year. Is that an accurate 935 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,710 statement? 936 00:38:10,720 --> 00:38:13,200 » Yes. Right now. 937 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,640 So, as of June 30th, 938 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,230 >> um 939 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:18,240 » um 940 00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,079 we're 470,000 ahead, but that's only 941 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:23,750 >> that doesn't include in what we talked 942 00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:23,760 » that doesn't include in what we talked 943 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,359 about last month, 944 00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:28,390 >> ensuring the it's not contingency fun or 945 00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:28,400 » ensuring the it's not contingency fun or 946 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,119 whatever you call it, 947 00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:29,990 >> the capital improvement. 948 00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:30,000 » the capital improvement. 949 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,230 >> Capital improvement. So, not so yeah, we 950 00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:32,240 » Capital improvement. So, not so yeah, we 951 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,480 take capital improvement up to 2 million 952 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,240 or contingency fund up to 2 million and 953 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,599 then put the rest in capital 954 00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,680 improvement. Correct. So, so when you 955 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,960 look at the budget, the total 956 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,880 expenditures are what it costs to run 957 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,880 the city, the operation of the city. 958 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,359 Yeah. 959 00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:48,390 >> Okay. Then below that are sources. Those 960 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:48,400 » Okay. Then below that are sources. Those 961 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,480 are things um brought in from other 962 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:56,640 funds. Um which it shows um 25,000 963 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160 transferred in that is for the software. 964 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,240 Um we had talked last month about 965 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,760 getting new software and the um court 966 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,040 technology fund paying 25,000 toward the 967 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,960 implementation. That's what that's 968 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,880 brought in. So it's not really revenue 969 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,320 to the city. It's just kind of a Okay. 970 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,480 And then uses are transfers out. 971 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,359 So we have a transfer to contingency 972 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:25,760 fund of 108500 973 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,240 and a transfer to capital projects of 974 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,000 226. 975 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,839 So you take your revenue less your 976 00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:35,119 expenditures and then add the sources 977 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,599 subtract the uses. So then on the next 978 00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,240 page that's your bottom line. So you can 979 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,280 see under 2026 budget it came in right 980 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,880 at 100,000 because that's what they 981 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,400 instructed me to do. um right now, well 982 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,040 I shouldn't say right now the actuals on 983 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,520 this budget form right now are through 984 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,400 6:30. When I bring um the proposed 985 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,160 budget for approval next month, I'll 986 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,720 have it updated, but I did 6:30 so that 987 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,839 our departments had a gauge of where 988 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,079 they could see where their spending was. 989 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:13,280 Um but so right as of 6:30, we're 990 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160 470,000 ahead. So would it be an 991 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,119 accurate statement to assume that 992 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,680 we're over this year 450 460,000 993 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,880 whichever one we approve on here we went 994 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,240 back one slide 995 00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,480 it would add to that 450,000 996 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,109 >> so that 400 and some thousand we've 997 00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:35,119 » so that 400 and some thousand we've 998 00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:39,760 gotten 90ome% of our income in already 999 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,040 at this point 1000 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,630 >> we've reached 98% 1001 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:42,640 » we've reached 98% 1002 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,109 >> but we still have pretty much, 1003 00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:45,119 » but we still have pretty much, 1004 00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,710 >> but we still have three months of 1005 00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:48,720 » but we still have three months of 1006 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,359 expenses. So, that's going to go down. 1007 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:53,440 Um, we're still getting sales tax in. 1008 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,760 We're still getting a trickle of 1009 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,119 property tax, but we're at like 98 1010 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,119 something% of our property tax that 1011 00:41:01,119 --> 00:41:03,839 we're going to collect in. 1012 00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:06,630 >> So, this is it inflates the bottom line 1013 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:06,640 » So, this is it inflates the bottom line 1014 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,079 early in the year. 1015 00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:08,710 >> That's what I 1016 00:41:08,710 --> 00:41:08,720 » That's what I 1017 00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,349 >> Does that make sense? 1018 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:09,359 » Does that make sense? 1019 00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:11,270 >> Yep. That's that's what 1020 00:41:11,270 --> 00:41:11,280 » Yep. That's that's what 1021 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,390 >> um so when I come next month, I'll have 1022 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:14,400 » um so when I come next month, I'll have 1023 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,400 a better idea for you. I will project 1024 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,200 I'll go to the end of August and then 1025 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,680 I'll project for September to give you 1026 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,400 hard harder numbers to see where we're 1027 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,160 going to land. There's still projection 1028 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,599 for a month. Um it'll be closer to that 1029 00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:31,359 100,000, but I think we're going to be 1030 00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:35,200 ahead still. Um, our revenues are down, 1031 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,000 but we also haven't spent. We've had uh 1032 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,079 salaries that haven't been spent because 1033 00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:42,560 we've had missing police officers, 1034 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,400 missing, you know, different um, you 1035 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,800 know, some positions now are lower paid 1036 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,280 than they were a year ago, that type of 1037 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,599 thing. Does that answer your question? 1038 00:41:53,599 --> 00:41:54,230 >> Yes, ma'am. 1039 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:54,240 » Yes, ma'am. 1040 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:57,109 >> Okay. 1041 00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:57,119 » Okay. 1042 00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:58,870 >> And just for clarification, like what 1043 00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:58,880 » And just for clarification, like what 1044 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,720 we're voting on today is not the actual 1045 00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,480 tax rate. is 1046 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,510 >> the mag we could go up. [clears throat] 1047 00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:05,520 » the mag we could go up. [clears throat] 1048 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,589 >> This the language that the state sets 1049 00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:07,599 » This the language that the state sets 1050 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,079 out is very very confusing on this 1051 00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:12,480 record tax vote. What we're telling the 1052 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,720 taxpayers is that the city of Richmond 1053 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:19,839 will not enact a tax rate higher than 1054 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:22,160 this amount we're saying today. Now, 1055 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,880 when it comes up in paper, it's going to 1056 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,640 look like we're raising our taxes that 1057 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,480 much. Maybe we are. We're not deciding 1058 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,280 till next month, although I'd like some 1059 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,880 guidance. Um, but this tax, we are not 1060 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,000 setting the tax rate after tonight. We 1061 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,680 can't go higher. So, if you said, um, 1062 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,319 you know, our record tax rate 1063 00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:49,910 [clears throat] is.574494, 1064 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,000 we can't then go to the very the VA%. 1065 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:59,040 Um, we could go below or at the V 3.5 as 1066 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,079 an example. Um, so I always ask that you 1067 00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:06,400 vote in your record vote for the highest 1068 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,319 when I'm presenting. That gives us 1069 00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:11,280 flexibility. We don't know 1070 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,839 what's going to happen tomorrow. We 1071 00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:16,800 don't know if something's going to come 1072 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,960 off the Gulf in a week and or we just 1073 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,640 don't know. So if you go lower, you've 1074 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,760 you've shrunk our possibilities. 1075 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,839 Now it's only for a month, but it's 1076 00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:31,760 still it 1077 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,589 >> we're also waiting on insurance premium. 1078 00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:33,599 » we're also waiting on insurance premium. 1079 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,349 >> We're waiting to work on insurance 1080 00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:35,359 » We're waiting to work on insurance 1081 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:38,800 premiums. I did build in 10% increase on 1082 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,880 insurance, but some years that that's 1083 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,880 only a fourth of what they went up. 1084 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,119 Hopefully not this year. Um but a few 1085 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,280 years ago they went up over 40%. I think 1086 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,839 it was 49. Um, so 1087 00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:57,040 we want to vote on the highest one just 1088 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:58,960 to give us 1089 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,880 the opportunity to be flexible as we 1090 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,280 work. 1091 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,870 >> You're looking for two types of guidance 1092 00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:02,880 » You're looking for two types of guidance 1093 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,960 tonight, right? 1094 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,640 One to a set a ceiling on our tax rate. 1095 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,240 Two, guidance for you to actually create 1096 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,160 a budget. Is that 1097 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,710 >> the budget? So we're when you vote on a 1098 00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:14,720 » the budget? So we're when you vote on a 1099 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:16,960 budget, you're voting on the 1100 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,880 expenditures. You're not voting on the 1101 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,440 revenue because um revenue is going to 1102 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,880 be what it's going to be, 1103 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,270 >> but you're voting on a tax rate. Um I 1104 00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:29,280 » but you're voting on a tax rate. Um I 1105 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,960 present a budget and I think every city 1106 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,599 does with the revenue showing showing 1107 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:35,200 the revenue for that tax rate you're 1108 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,839 going to approve. So I would like some 1109 00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:39,839 guidance of where you guys would like to 1110 00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:42,000 be so that I can bring a budget document 1111 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,200 to you that reflects that. Just like 1112 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,680 last month you gave me guidance on the 1113 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,280 utility rates, tonight I'd like you to 1114 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,119 kind of give a consensus of where you 1115 00:44:53,119 --> 00:44:56,560 want that tax rate to be. That doesn't 1116 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,079 mean 1117 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:01,599 we can't change it if the unforeseen 1118 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,760 comes or something, but that gives me 1119 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,270 guidance. 1120 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,520 I'll make a motion to uh 1121 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,790 >> Well, this is not actually 1122 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:10,800 » Well, this is not actually 1123 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,950 >> So, we're not actually heard this 1124 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:12,960 » So, we're not actually heard this 1125 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,560 discussion, general discussion. 1126 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,550 >> This is discussion and guidance to me. 1127 00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:16,560 » This is discussion and guidance to me. 1128 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,400 Then when we get to the item, there's 1129 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,160 exact language we have to use. 1130 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,270 >> Yeah, just 1131 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:21,280 » Yeah, just 1132 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,069 >> we just last year our council's 1133 00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:24,079 » we just last year our council's 1134 00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,480 prerogative was like focus on the bottom 1135 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,920 line. We didn't know if y'all are more 1136 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,359 interested in what that rate actually 1137 00:45:31,359 --> 00:45:33,920 looks like or the bottom line or 1138 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,470 >> dollar figure. How how do you want it to 1139 00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:36,480 » dollar figure. How how do you want it to 1140 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,480 look so we know how to go forward? If 1141 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,880 you want her to look at it without 1142 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,440 recapturing that amount that the council 1143 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,800 decided to forego last year, that's your 1144 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,520 call. Also, um we just want to bring you 1145 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,400 a budget because that's when we have to 1146 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,240 formally publish it. 1147 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,270 >> Um actually today we put it out there. 1148 00:45:57,270 --> 00:45:57,280 » Um actually today we put it out there. 1149 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,640 We're going to put it out there um in 1150 00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,920 the morning after 1151 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:01,510 >> Yeah. We have to send to the county what 1152 00:46:01,510 --> 00:46:01,520 » Yeah. We have to send to the county what 1153 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,560 your record vote is. 1154 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,430 >> Yeah. and then we'll we'll post. 1155 00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:05,440 » Yeah. and then we'll we'll post. 1156 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,349 >> And I do want to clarify one thing with 1157 00:46:07,349 --> 00:46:07,359 » And I do want to clarify one thing with 1158 00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:10,160 that incremental rate. If you use it 1159 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,280 this year, it doesn't mean you don't 1160 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,280 have that next year. You get it every 1161 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,839 year, but it's within those three years. 1162 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,800 So, it's not a once and done. Yeah. 1163 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,599 Clarify that. 1164 00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:23,349 >> So, when are we going to actually vote 1165 00:46:23,349 --> 00:46:23,359 » So, when are we going to actually vote 1166 00:46:23,359 --> 00:46:24,960 on the tax rates? 1167 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,910 >> Next month. 1168 00:46:25,910 --> 00:46:25,920 » Next month. 1169 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,870 >> Next month. 1170 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:26,880 » Next month. 1171 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,470 >> So, we do this record vote so that way 1172 00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:28,480 » So, we do this record vote so that way 1173 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,480 we can put out legally required notices 1174 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,079 to the public. We publish it in the 1175 00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:34,400 paper. We put postings on the website 1176 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,160 and then that gives the public a month 1177 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,640 notice of your city's possibly going to 1178 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,720 go this high and you can you're welcome 1179 00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,079 to attend the public hearings. So I read 1180 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:43,839 all motion on all these public hearings 1181 00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:45,040 and that gives us the green light to 1182 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,640 publish these notices to get the 1183 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:47,920 residents informed of what's going 1184 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,470 >> and when we take the the vote on the 1185 00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:50,480 » and when we take the the vote on the 1186 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,200 record vote we have to go one at a time. 1187 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,119 Um because we have to publish who voted 1188 00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:59,839 yes, who voted no. Um, so, um, 1189 00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:05,040 this is all required by by our laws. Um, 1190 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:09,280 so I would just like to get, um, 1191 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,000 some guidance. Um, first of all, if 1192 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,240 there's anything in the budget document 1193 00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,319 that you think we haven't covered enough 1194 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:18,160 or that you've changed your mind on and 1195 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,280 should be included, um, this includes 1196 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,280 everything we've talked about, including 1197 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,119 the software. And I felt like that was 1198 00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:28,240 pretty resounding. Yes. Um like I said 1199 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:30,400 earlier, it includes that $25,000 1200 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:36,319 transfer. Um it includes um really a 1201 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:38,400 pretty barebones budget because I think 1202 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,040 we all as we worked through the budget 1203 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,720 with all the changes that have occurred 1204 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,720 in this city in the last several months, 1205 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,560 we all just wanted to kind of maintain 1206 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,079 status quo. Um, we're not asking for big 1207 00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:57,280 things except the software. Um, you 1208 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,960 know, Cliff doesn't have a list of 1209 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,359 equipment he wants to include. Um, 1210 00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:03,760 there's some necessary projects in the 1211 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,280 enterprise fund. Um, but 1212 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,960 otherwise, this is pretty bare bones 1213 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,319 what it's going to take to run this 1214 00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:16,000 city. Um and then um going forward next 1215 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,599 year 1216 00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:19,920 we'll we'll re-evaluate and maybe we can 1217 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,079 start doing some improvements, some 1218 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:26,559 capital projects um fixing streets or 1219 00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:28,400 you know but this year we don't have 1220 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,359 anything big um that we're asking for 1221 00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:33,920 right now. Correct. 1222 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,270 >> Right. It'll all be next year. 1223 00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:35,280 » Right. It'll all be next year. 1224 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,270 >> Yeah. So, so, um, one thing when you 1225 00:48:39,270 --> 00:48:39,280 » Yeah. So, so, um, one thing when you 1226 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,400 consider the tax rate, 1227 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,960 it's not money that's just going to sit 1228 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,240 in a pile and look pretty. It's, um, 1229 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,800 money that we could use next year for 1230 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,880 the projects that he's got mulling 1231 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,839 around in that brain of his. So, um, 1232 00:48:55,839 --> 00:48:57,589 >> and that and that's perfect. Like, one 1233 00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:57,599 » and that and that's perfect. Like, one 1234 00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,200 of the things I was sitting here 1235 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,119 thinking about was I have no problem 1236 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:04,640 looking at a V of 8%, right? None. 1237 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,599 because you spend an hour with Cliff and 1238 00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:09,920 you'll want to hand him money for 1239 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,200 infrastructure needs, right? And so I 1240 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,400 don't have any issue in doing that, but 1241 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,040 I think the public certainly should have 1242 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,839 some idea of what these big projects are 1243 00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:24,079 coming up, right? That this is why we 1244 00:49:24,079 --> 00:49:27,599 have, you know, so much money in reserve 1245 00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:31,280 right now. We're uh what would you say? 1246 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,319 $100,000 at the end of this year. We're 1247 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:36,400 looking at $220,000 1248 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,640 in addition at the end of next year, 1249 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,400 right? Like the public should have some 1250 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,640 understanding that, you know, we're just 1251 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,000 not grabbing a bunch of money and 1252 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,440 saying, "Thank you very much." 1253 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,390 >> And in fiscal year 20, 1254 00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:50,400 » And in fiscal year 20, 1255 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,160 I work in so many different years. I got 1256 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,280 to think fiscal year 25, that was last 1257 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,839 year. Um, 1258 00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:00,880 our budget included 700,000 1259 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,640 to repair two streets. Um, and that was 1260 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,119 transferred out of our fund balance in 1261 00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,400 the general fund to the transportation 1262 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,880 fund so Cliff could fix. Right. Two 1263 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,880 streets, 1264 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,349 >> huh? 1265 00:50:15,349 --> 00:50:15,359 » huh? 1266 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:17,910 >> There's one. Cypress. Cypress. Misty. 1267 00:50:17,910 --> 00:50:17,920 » There's one. Cypress. Cypress. Misty. 1268 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,319 Sorry. 1269 00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:18,950 >> That's two streets. 1270 00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:18,960 » That's two streets. 1271 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,109 >> They do. 1272 00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:21,119 » They do. 1273 00:50:21,119 --> 00:50:22,710 >> Um, 1274 00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:22,720 » Um, 1275 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,800 so, so that's the type of thing we're 1276 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,960 looking at. He has when we got the 1277 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,000 streets master plan, he has a whole 1278 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,520 hierarchy of streets top to bottom of 1279 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,240 who needs work first. Um those are the 1280 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,440 type of things I'm talking about. Um our 1281 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,079 fund balance 1282 00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:45,920 sits there. We want six months worth of 1283 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,440 expenditures 1284 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,040 there 1285 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,880 in case the bottom falls out. But above 1286 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,599 that, we can use it for streets. We can 1287 00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:58,000 use it for 1288 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,390 >> anything you Yeah. drainage, 1289 00:51:00,390 --> 00:51:00,400 » anything you Yeah. drainage, 1290 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,829 >> um, parks, anything that you guys 1291 00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:03,839 » um, parks, anything that you guys 1292 00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:06,480 approve. Um, it's not going to go to 1293 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,480 waste. There's a lot of work to be done 1294 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,559 in this city. We've made a lot of 1295 00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:13,680 headway, but there's a lot more to go. 1296 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,079 So, um, 1297 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,400 you know, I I feel like I just keep 1298 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,680 saying, "Let's stick money here, stick 1299 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,800 money here for later." But there's he's 1300 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:27,040 got $30 million of projects to do. Um, 1301 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,800 so, 1302 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,800 you know, it's just where you guys feel 1303 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,880 comfortable. And that's one of the 1304 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,760 reasons I give you the chart showing the 1305 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,960 how much the rates change for a 1306 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,079 household. Um, and I know year by year 1307 00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:46,559 by year it adds up, but the changes in 1308 00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:48,800 each year 1309 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,240 are, you know, a trip to El Toro. 1310 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:55,280 Um, and I realize we have families that 1311 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,040 can't afford to go to El Toro. I'm not 1312 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,200 trying to diminish that, but I'm just 1313 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,079 saying, um, 1314 00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:05,520 it's there's not a huge 1315 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,760 insurmountable difference between top 1316 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,640 and bottom of the rates. Um, but when 1317 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,160 you put them all together, it can make a 1318 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,280 big difference for Cliff and the jobs he 1319 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,990 has to do. 1320 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,839 Any other comments or questions? 1321 00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:26,800 Anything I didn't touch on? 1322 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,549 >> Please don't. We are so 1323 00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:30,559 » Please don't. We are so 1324 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,910 >> I want to hear you guys thoughts. Um, 1325 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:33,920 » I want to hear you guys thoughts. Um, 1326 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,150 >> do you want them to provide you a 1327 00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:36,160 » do you want them to provide you a 1328 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,400 percentage or a solid number tonight? 1329 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,160 You know, you guys did so great last 1330 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,400 month and kind of getting a consensus 1331 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,839 without really having to go through the 1332 00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:46,240 vote process for the 5% increase on 1333 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:50,160 utilities. If you guys could kind of do 1334 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,760 that again, it's great, but I know it's 1335 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,200 hard. There's so many options. Um, 1336 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,630 >> I'll tell you, I'll throw what I'm 1337 00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:56,640 » I'll tell you, I'll throw what I'm 1338 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,680 leaning towards the 3.5. And I say that 1339 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,480 because it covers So, looking this year, 1340 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,480 we got a $400,000 surplus. If you do the 1341 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:10,000 3.5, that covers the $95,000 1342 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,599 increase between the software annuals or 1343 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:15,839 the software implementation 1344 00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:18,559 and the pay raises for the employees. So 1345 00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:22,559 that covers that 100,000 if you did the 1346 00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:27,359 3.5 plus the the um incremental. So 1347 00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:28,960 that's kind of where I'm leaning. I 1348 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,319 think we probably brought in enough 1349 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:33,040 money. I personally I think the city 1350 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,200 should break even. You shouldn't. We're 1351 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,440 not in the money making business. You 1352 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,280 know, there's other ways to do capital 1353 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,720 projects. And if you're throwing, 1354 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,319 I mean, literally, we bring in four 1355 00:53:44,319 --> 00:53:46,480 million. If you have 2 million in 1356 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,559 capital or in general fund, 2 million in 1357 00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:54,720 contingency funds, and you're dumping, 1358 00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,800 what is it 220,000 in the capital 1359 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,960 projects, that's probably what we can 1360 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,520 afford. That's probably responsible. 1361 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,520 So, I I think where we're at this year, 1362 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,200 I like this budget. It's kind of the 1363 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,160 $100,000 mark. I'm kind of leaning to 1364 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,400 mirror that plus provide that that ERP 1365 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:13,920 is pretty critical, I think, because 1366 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,040 that 1367 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,470 >> that runs all of this 1368 00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:16,480 » that runs all of this 1369 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,549 >> and that is built into the budget 1370 00:54:18,549 --> 00:54:18,559 » and that is built into the budget 1371 00:54:18,559 --> 00:54:22,470 >> and then the 4% increase in raise that 1372 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:22,480 » and then the 4% increase in raise that 1373 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,000 funds that as well. So, I'm kind of 1374 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,319 leaning that away is where I'm at. 1375 00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:28,559 That's my mindset 1376 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:31,670 >> with the um unused incremental included 1377 00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:31,680 » with the um unused incremental included 1378 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,309 >> include include that. So it would be 3 1379 00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:36,319 » include include that. So it would be 3 1380 00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:37,190 >> 494. 1381 00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:37,200 » 494. 1382 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:37,589 >> Okay. 1383 00:54:37,589 --> 00:54:37,599 » Okay. 1384 00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:38,710 >> Yeah. 1385 00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:38,720 » Yeah. 1386 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,922 >> That has the incremental in there. 1387 00:54:40,922 --> 00:54:40,932 » That has the incremental in there. 1388 00:54:40,932 --> 00:54:41,040 [clears throat] 1389 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:46,630 >> That's kind of where I'm thinking. 1390 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,079 » But tonight I'd almost like to see both 1391 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:52,720 of them at the 8% and then 3.5. But I 1392 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:54,640 know that puts more work on. So 1393 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,309 >> you'd like to do what? 1394 00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:56,319 » you'd like to do what? 1395 00:54:56,319 --> 00:54:57,430 >> You want to see the budget with it? But 1396 00:54:57,430 --> 00:54:57,440 » You want to see the budget with it? But 1397 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:57,920 with both. 1398 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,670 >> No. So tonight I would tell you if I had 1399 00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:59,680 » No. So tonight I would tell you if I had 1400 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,880 to vote tonight, I would say the 8%. 1401 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:03,910 >> But then I would tell you while you're 1402 00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:03,920 » But then I would tell you while you're 1403 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,520 doing the budget, I would lean towards 1404 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,079 the 1405 00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:07,829 >> Gotcha. So for the record vote, you're 1406 00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:07,839 » Gotcha. So for the record vote, you're 1407 00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:11,200 going to Oh, yeah. 1408 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:11,589 >> Gotcha. 1409 00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:11,599 » Gotcha. 1410 00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,109 >> That way in case I look in here and 1411 00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:13,119 » That way in case I look in here and 1412 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:14,880 they're like, "Oh man, we cut our nose 1413 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,200 off." 1414 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,069 >> Yeah. 1415 00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:16,079 » Yeah. 1416 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:17,190 >> It just gives us more. 1417 00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:17,200 » It just gives us more. 1418 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,913 >> You just need the ceiling 1419 00:55:18,913 --> 00:55:18,923 » You just need the ceiling 1420 00:55:18,923 --> 00:55:20,559 [clears throat] number from council and 1421 00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,640 then we go from there for next month. So 1422 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,880 y'all are all fine with eight. We don't 1423 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,079 vote on it tonight. 1424 00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:27,270 >> We'll vote on the eight tonight. 1425 00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:27,280 » We'll vote on the eight tonight. 1426 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,190 >> We vote on the eight, but that's not a 1427 00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:29,200 » We vote on the eight, but that's not a 1428 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,800 hard number, right? But I just would 1429 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,720 like to have 1430 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:34,549 >> kind of a consensus of you don't all 1431 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:34,559 » kind of a consensus of you don't all 1432 00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,160 have to agree, but what would be 1433 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,839 approved next month, 1434 00:55:37,839 --> 00:55:38,309 >> right? 1435 00:55:38,309 --> 00:55:38,319 » right? 1436 00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:39,910 >> Um 1437 00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:39,920 » Um 1438 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,800 it does I mean I can change on the fly, 1439 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,480 you know. Um I can bring whatever you 1440 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:51,359 guys want. Um, I just like to come ready 1441 00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:55,680 and with your guys intention in mind. 1442 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,839 So, 1443 00:55:57,839 --> 00:55:59,109 >> eight, 1444 00:55:59,109 --> 00:55:59,119 » eight, 1445 00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:01,109 >> you say eight. 1446 00:56:01,109 --> 00:56:01,119 » you say eight. 1447 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:01,920 Is that what you said? 1448 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,630 >> Yes, me. 1449 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,640 » H 1450 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,789 >> purposely. 1451 00:56:10,789 --> 00:56:10,799 » purposely. 1452 00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:12,950 >> That gives you your big window. And we 1453 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:12,960 » That gives you your big window. And we 1454 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,870 >> that's we're we're clear on that part. 1455 00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:14,880 » that's we're we're clear on that part. 1456 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,200 She's meaning 1457 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,440 more of what we're 1458 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,309 >> the second piece. 1459 00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:20,319 » the second piece. 1460 00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:23,349 >> Yeah. What what number do you want? What 1461 00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:23,359 » Yeah. What what number do you want? What 1462 00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:25,839 what bottom line or what number are you 1463 00:56:25,839 --> 00:56:28,079 wanting her to base our 1464 00:56:28,079 --> 00:56:29,510 >> budget that we're going to 1465 00:56:29,510 --> 00:56:29,520 » budget that we're going to 1466 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,990 >> Is that what you're right now? The 1467 00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:32,000 » Is that what you're right now? The 1468 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,760 budget that you have in front of you is 1469 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,400 based on 1470 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,750 >> built with the eight 1471 00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:35,760 » built with the eight 1472 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,549 >> that bottom line. Um, 1473 00:56:38,549 --> 00:56:38,559 » that bottom line. Um, 1474 00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:41,119 I can bring it back just like that and 1475 00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:42,799 we can always change it if you guys go 1476 00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:45,119 to a lower rate before we publish our 1477 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:46,960 approved budget. What you're approving 1478 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,040 is the expenditures. 1479 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,680 Um, but I just like to come so that you 1480 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,720 know what you're voting on. If you want 1481 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:56,720 to wait 1482 00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:59,839 and not really give me an idea, that's 1483 00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:03,200 fine. Um, and we can just do the record 1484 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,440 vote tonight. But if you guys are all of 1485 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,440 a consensus, uh, I mean, when Kai and, 1486 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,200 um, Randy said eight, are you talking 1487 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,640 about the ceiling or are you talking 1488 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,710 about the actual rate? 1489 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,920 » I mean, I think it if 1490 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,720 I think we have enough here. I mean, the 1491 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,400 main thing for me was wanting to just 1492 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,160 make sure that having these numbers and 1493 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,680 having these bottom lines, are we still 1494 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,680 all good with these expenditures? We 1495 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,040 still feel comfortable approving 1496 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,839 software. It's not a dire need, but it 1497 00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:37,040 is a asset to the city to 1498 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,190 >> to do that on and it'll touch all 1499 00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:39,200 » to do that on and it'll touch all 1500 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,319 departments. 1501 00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:41,510 >> Um, 1502 00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:41,520 » Um, 1503 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,190 >> so we just want to make sure that we're 1504 00:57:43,190 --> 00:57:43,200 » so we just want to make sure that we're 1505 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,280 good. Whatever y'all come with, I mean, 1506 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,200 whether it's 3.5 or eight, we're going 1507 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,880 to make this work and still provide the 1508 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,799 best service we can to the residents. 1509 00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:53,430 >> Um, we were just talking in staff. I 1510 00:57:53,430 --> 00:57:53,440 » Um, we were just talking in staff. I 1511 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,000 think if we can I mean the last thing we 1512 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,599 want is to not look transparent or be 1513 00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,040 transparent but I think if the residents 1514 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,400 can start seeing that their money is 1515 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,319 working and it is getting stuff done and 1516 00:58:02,319 --> 00:58:04,960 we are planning things um to do with 1517 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,119 this excess and then we're saving on the 1518 00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:10,000 side um I think it's a little easier to 1519 00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,720 swallow rates but when it doesn't look 1520 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,480 like much is getting done or they're 1521 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,240 seeing any benefits of it right 1522 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,510 >> um 1523 00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:17,520 » um 1524 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,349 >> that's when it becomes it's concerning 1525 00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:19,359 » that's when it becomes it's concerning 1526 00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:21,119 to me also I don't want us to ever look 1527 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,240 like we're not 1528 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,630 >> and I feel My job as as finance director 1529 00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:24,640 » and I feel My job as as finance director 1530 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,040 is to give you your options and your job 1531 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,000 is to, you know, where you're 1532 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,799 comfortable, where you feel the citizens 1533 00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:38,640 would be most comfortable. Um, and I 1534 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,000 will build it on whatever. Um, as I 1535 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,880 said, you're going to be voting on the 1536 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,400 budget expenditures next month and 1537 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,280 you're voting on the tax rate 1538 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:52,880 separately. 1539 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,960 um have to do the budget first. 1540 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,230 >> We have to spend it before we can make 1541 00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:56,240 » We have to spend it before we can make 1542 00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:56,559 it. 1543 00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:59,190 >> Yes, we have to you approve the budget 1544 00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:59,200 » Yes, we have to you approve the budget 1545 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,440 then you approve the tax rate and 1546 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,160 you know we can bring it to where it's 1547 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,599 it's a zero bottom line. We can bring it 1548 00:59:09,599 --> 00:59:14,640 to 220. Um as I said I used to push for 1549 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,480 300,000 bottom line but we weren't 1550 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,240 saving into our reserves. We are now. 1551 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,559 So, if we want to go with the 3.5, 1552 00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,240 I'm okay with it. I'm okay with any of 1553 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,799 them because you're the council and you 1554 00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:32,720 guys decide and I just work with it. Um, 1555 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,799 we're probably 1556 00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:37,119 going to end up this year a little 1557 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,040 better than 100,000, but nowhere near 1558 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,839 the 400,000 that it shows right now just 1559 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:44,240 because, you know, we spent quite a bit 1560 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,960 a month. Um, and the revenue is not 1561 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,760 coming in. sales tax. If you look at it, 1562 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,680 it looks like a roller coaster. You 1563 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,119 start thinking, "Oh, we're making more 1564 00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:55,440 sales tax." And then it plummets. It 1565 00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,359 goes down this year. Next year it could 1566 00:59:57,359 --> 00:59:59,680 be up. You know, our economy is bad 1567 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,799 right now with pricing prices. People 1568 01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:05,119 aren't, you know, maybe spending like 1569 01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:08,079 they did next year maybe, you know, 1570 01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:09,746 they'll have money that they 1571 01:00:09,746 --> 01:00:10,960 [clears throat] want to spend. So, it's 1572 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,319 really hard hard to predict in a 1573 01:00:14,319 --> 01:00:17,599 volatile economy. um all we can do is 1574 01:00:17,599 --> 01:00:20,160 base it on history and that any of the 1575 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,400 revenues could fluctuate except really 1576 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,630 property tax. 1577 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,640 So it's just important to note that we 1578 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,079 will not meet again before there is a 1579 01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,720 decision made. So if you have questions 1580 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,119 in between, reach out. 1581 01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:38,230 >> Um so that way we can come prepared. 1582 01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:38,240 » Um so that way we can come prepared. 1583 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,280 We'll have public hearing. We'll listen 1584 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,079 to the public. Um hope so we'll be ready 1585 01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:44,000 to make a motion next month. didn't ask 1586 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,760 me with a with a rate. Every rate has to 1587 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,599 be specific. But by all means, when you 1588 01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,200 guys go home and you start thinking 1589 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,400 through this, 1590 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,109 >> reach out with the questions. I I would 1591 01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:53,119 » reach out with the questions. I I would 1592 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:55,760 rather answer questions than have you go 1593 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,079 with unanswered questions or to have 1594 01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:00,640 them asked here without me being able to 1595 01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:02,400 prepare 1596 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,240 um so that I can answer the best I can. 1597 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,880 Would it be too much ask from you if if 1598 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,160 you would run these numbers with 150,000 1599 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,480 in your general fund, 1600 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,390 >> you know, in between? Yeah. In between 1601 01:01:14,390 --> 01:01:14,400 » you know, in between? Yeah. In between 1602 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,200 3.5 and 8 see what 150,000 would do for 1603 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,710 >> I mean it would be so you see the V 8% 1604 01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:20,720 » I mean it would be so you see the V 8% 1605 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,720 without UIR 1606 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,280 um in the box [snorts] that rate 1607 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,839 0.587817 1608 01:01:27,839 --> 01:01:31,040 it's going to be about 180 1609 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,599 178. So, I mean, it's going to be, you 1610 01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,200 know, if we went to 150, I could 1611 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,599 calculate that. It's not a big deal. I 1612 01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:38,799 can't do it in my head right now. 1613 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:39,750 >> No, no, I know. 1614 01:01:39,750 --> 01:01:39,760 » No, no, I know. 1615 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,470 >> But, um, it I mean, we could do that, 1616 01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:42,480 » But, um, it I mean, we could do that, 1617 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,359 too. Um, 1618 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:48,390 >> I know Mr. Johnson is a hard number. 1619 01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:48,400 » I know Mr. Johnson is a hard number. 1620 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:48,710 >> Yeah. 1621 01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:48,720 » Yeah. 1622 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,470 >> Council member, that's how we got to 1623 01:01:50,470 --> 01:01:50,480 » Council member, that's how we got to 1624 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,359 that number last year. 1625 01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:53,349 >> Right. Right. 1626 01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:53,359 » Right. Right. 1627 01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:55,109 >> So, we can look at the difference in the 1628 01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:55,119 » So, we can look at the difference in the 1629 01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:56,512 revenues of the two and bring 1630 01:01:56,512 --> 01:01:58,480 [clears throat] that as the middle, too. 1631 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,430 >> Yeah. So we'll we'll bring exact rates 1632 01:02:01,430 --> 01:02:01,440 » Yeah. So we'll we'll bring exact rates 1633 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,680 with numbers and change in fund balance. 1634 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,680 Um 1635 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:08,470 >> I mean did you get 1636 01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:08,480 » I mean did you get 1637 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,630 >> between 3.5 to eight? We will work in 1638 01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:10,640 » between 3.5 to eight? We will work in 1639 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,839 the middle there. You can 1640 01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:14,549 >> I can bring a couple of the rates and 1641 01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:14,559 » I can bring a couple of the rates and 1642 01:02:14,559 --> 01:02:17,510 >> um and if you have any questions 1643 01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:17,520 » um and if you have any questions 1644 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,349 >> you got what you needed from council. 1645 01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:19,359 » you got what you needed from council. 1646 01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:20,150 >> I think so. 1647 01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:20,160 » I think so. 1648 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,990 >> Okay. 1649 01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:22,000 » Okay. 1650 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,510 >> Um 1651 01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:23,520 » Um 1652 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,030 >> anything else on it? 1653 01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:27,040 » anything else on it? 1654 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,880 and the enterprise budget that's in that 1655 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,920 budget I gave you um includes a 5% 1656 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,760 increase. Um that's the only thing that 1657 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,720 changed there. Um 1658 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,079 so yeah, we're in good shape. Um like I 1659 01:02:40,079 --> 01:02:41,520 said, we only have one number really 1660 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,079 we're waiting on and that is the 1661 01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,720 insurance. Um but that should be coming 1662 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,160 any day. Um and we'll we'll let you know 1663 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,760 in the weekly update when we get it what 1664 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,520 percentage it went up or down. Before 1665 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,280 you move on, um that 9869 1666 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:03,589 >> is there any way we can get that clo I 1667 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:03,599 » is there any way we can get that clo I 1668 01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:05,119 mean not personally but how do we get 1669 01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:06,240 that closer to 100 again? 1670 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:07,910 >> I mean they have collections agencies 1671 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:07,920 » I mean they have collections agencies 1672 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:08,640 they use 1673 01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,069 >> that's up to the county. We don't 1674 01:03:10,069 --> 01:03:10,079 » that's up to the county. We don't 1675 01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:12,480 collect our own tax rate or our own tax 1676 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,400 levy. Um they go through the county. 1677 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,240 They have a a legal firm that does 1678 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,000 collections for them. 1679 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,950 >> Um I have a feeling I've never really 1680 01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:20,960 » Um I have a feeling I've never really 1681 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,599 talked to them of how we got up to 17%. 1682 01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:25,589 >> It was passed. I think it was probably a 1683 01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:25,599 » It was passed. I think it was probably a 1684 01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:27,839 lot of delinquent tax. 1685 01:03:27,839 --> 01:03:32,950 >> Um, so that took us above the the levy. 1686 01:03:32,950 --> 01:03:32,960 » Um, so that took us above the the levy. 1687 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,799 When you see tax year 25 at 99.33 and 1688 01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:39,760 tax year 25 at 98.89 and now we're at 1689 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,920 9.9 98.69, 1690 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,880 there's going to be a lot of delinquent 1691 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,359 now um on the books. So, we may see it 1692 01:03:49,359 --> 01:03:51,280 go up again or we may see it hit one 1693 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,680 more down. I don't know. Um, but we 1694 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,599 don't calculate that and we don't 1695 01:03:55,599 --> 01:03:56,559 control it. 1696 01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,069 >> How many years back can you see that 1697 01:03:58,069 --> 01:03:58,079 » How many years back can you see that 1698 01:03:58,079 --> 01:03:59,200 from the 1699 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,750 >> This is what I have. Um, 1700 01:04:01,750 --> 01:04:01,760 » This is what I have. Um, 1701 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,190 >> I just want to know if it keeps doing 1702 01:04:03,190 --> 01:04:03,200 » I just want to know if it keeps doing 1703 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:03,599 this. 1704 01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:05,510 >> Yeah. Yeah, this is what I have, but I 1705 01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:05,520 » Yeah. Yeah, this is what I have, but I 1706 01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,839 could probably call and ask 1707 01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:09,190 >> or if it's historically going to keep 1708 01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:09,200 » or if it's historically going to keep 1709 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,559 going down. 1710 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:12,390 >> Yeah. I I don't know. 1711 01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:12,400 » Yeah. I I don't know. 1712 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,190 >> No. I I didn't know if we had any 1713 01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:15,200 » No. I I didn't know if we had any 1714 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:16,559 control over that. 1715 01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:17,510 >> None at all. 1716 01:04:17,510 --> 01:04:17,520 » None at all. 1717 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,309 >> Okay. 1718 01:04:18,309 --> 01:04:18,319 » Okay. 1719 01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:19,910 >> Go door to door and say, "Have you paid 1720 01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:19,920 » Go door to door and say, "Have you paid 1721 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,480 your taxes?" Why? [snorts] 1722 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,119 But um yeah, and that's one nice thing 1723 01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,359 about how it's set up here is that we 1724 01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,039 don't have to do the collecting. 1725 01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:31,430 >> The county does it and so we don't have 1726 01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:31,440 » The county does it and so we don't have 1727 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,799 to get on the backs of our residents for 1728 01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:37,440 it. Um but that also takes away some of 1729 01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,640 the control that we have. 1730 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,789 >> Okay, 1731 01:04:42,789 --> 01:04:42,799 » Okay, 1732 01:04:42,799 --> 01:04:45,599 questions. 1733 01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,670 >> Thank you for the short explanation. 1734 01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:47,680 » Thank you for the short explanation. 1735 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,710 Mhm. 1736 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,480 » So now it's your job to say what it is. 1737 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,630 I'm just going to go on to it. 1738 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,119 » Oh, okay. 1739 01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:02,789 >> You need me to do what? 1740 01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:02,799 » You need me to do what? 1741 01:05:02,799 --> 01:05:04,710 >> Normally you announce what the next item 1742 01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:04,720 » Normally you announce what the next item 1743 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,640 is. I'm just going to keep talking. 1744 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,309 >> So are you done with your slideshow? 1745 01:05:08,309 --> 01:05:08,319 » So are you done with your slideshow? 1746 01:05:08,319 --> 01:05:08,870 >> Yes. 1747 01:05:08,870 --> 01:05:08,880 » Yes. 1748 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,309 >> We're on the E now. 1749 01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:10,319 » We're on the E now. 1750 01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:13,190 >> Yes. uh considered and record a vote on 1751 01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:13,200 » Yes. uh considered and record a vote on 1752 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,280 the proposed tax rate of 0.595560 1753 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,079 for fiscal year 2026 2027 which 1754 01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:22,559 represents an increase of up to 7.9% 1755 01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:24,160 above the no new revenue tax rate for 1756 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,480 the city of Richwood proposed tax rate 1757 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,000 is scheduled to be adopted at a future 1758 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:29,599 meeting. 1759 01:05:29,599 --> 01:05:32,160 So if if [clears throat] whoever makes 1760 01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:38,240 the motion has to um read um to approve 1761 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,599 a proposed tax rate and go on to the 1762 01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:43,200 where it says ritual. That's the 1763 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,280 language we have to use. 1764 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,470 >> So they might as well just read the 1765 01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:46,480 » So they might as well just read the 1766 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,240 entire thing back 1767 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,309 >> and then we have and we you know 1768 01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:52,319 » and then we have and we you know 1769 01:05:52,319 --> 01:05:53,839 obviously have to have a second and then 1770 01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:57,280 we have to vote one at a time 1771 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:58,549 >> next month or this month. 1772 01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:58,559 » next month or this month. 1773 01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:03,910 >> Yeah. Okay. 1774 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,680 » I can't be the one reading it again. 1775 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,789 >> I'll make I'll make a [clears throat] 1776 01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:08,799 » I'll make I'll make a [clears throat] 1777 01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:11,599 motion to uh to approve the proposed tax 1778 01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:13,440 rate of 1779 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,440 0.595560 1780 01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,119 for fiscal year 2026 through 2027, which 1781 01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,839 represents an increase of 7.9% above the 1782 01:06:21,839 --> 01:06:24,319 no new revenue tax rate for the city of 1783 01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:26,160 Richwood. 1784 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,670 >> I'll second that. 1785 01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:27,680 » I'll second that. 1786 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,270 >> Okay, Mr. How do you vote? 1787 01:06:29,270 --> 01:06:29,280 » Okay, Mr. How do you vote? 1788 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:29,990 >> Uh, 1789 01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:30,000 » Uh, 1790 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,190 >> Mr. Dun, how do you vote? 1791 01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:31,200 » Mr. Dun, how do you vote? 1792 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,950 >> I York, how do you vote? 1793 01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:32,960 » I York, how do you vote? 1794 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:33,430 >> Hi. 1795 01:06:33,430 --> 01:06:33,440 » Hi. 1796 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,549 >> Mr. Mayor, how do you vote? 1797 01:06:34,549 --> 01:06:34,559 » Mr. Mayor, how do you vote? 1798 01:06:34,559 --> 01:06:35,349 >> Hi. 1799 01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:35,359 » Hi. 1800 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:37,190 >> Okay, let the record reflect that motion 1801 01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:37,200 » Okay, let the record reflect that motion 1802 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:38,240 carries. 1803 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,710 >> Thank you. 1804 01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:40,720 » Thank you. 1805 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,789 >> All right. 1806 01:06:42,789 --> 01:06:42,799 » All right. 1807 01:06:42,799 --> 01:06:47,109 >> Are you introducing the next two? 1808 01:06:47,109 --> 01:06:47,119 » Are you introducing the next two? 1809 01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:49,510 >> Okay, moving on to F. discussion and 1810 01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:49,520 » Okay, moving on to F. discussion and 1811 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,119 possible action to approve resolution 1812 01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:53,039 number 26-R8 1813 01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:54,640 setting the date and time for the public 1814 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,280 hearing of fiscal year 2026 2027 annual 1815 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,079 budget for September 14th, 2026 at 6 1816 01:07:00,079 --> 01:07:00,640 p.m. 1817 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,710 >> So the next two items are formality to 1818 01:07:02,710 --> 01:07:02,720 » So the next two items are formality to 1819 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,319 make sure we can get these notices 1820 01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:06,640 posted for our public hearings. So we 1821 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,680 just need approval to set public hearing 1822 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:15,750 and we'll get the ads put out. 1823 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,160 That one was easier than the last. 1824 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:25,670 >> So, 1825 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,359 I'll make a motion that we approve 1826 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:29,920 resolution number 1827 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,400 that 26 R8 setting date and time of the 1828 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,200 public hearing uh on the fiscal year 1829 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,559 2026 2027 annual budget for September 1830 01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:45,440 14th, 2026 at 6 pm. 1831 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,319 A second. 1832 01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:49,430 >> I'll second. 1833 01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:49,440 » I'll second. 1834 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,549 >> Okay. All in favor? 1835 01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:52,559 » Okay. All in favor? 1836 01:07:52,559 --> 01:07:55,190 >> Okay. Let the record reflect. The motion 1837 01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:55,200 » Okay. Let the record reflect. The motion 1838 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:56,720 carries. 1839 01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,440 Moving on to G. [clears throat] 1840 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,200 Discussion and possible action to 1841 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,319 approve resolution number 26-R9 1842 01:08:04,319 --> 01:08:05,680 setting the date and time for the public 1843 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,680 hearing on the proposed tax rate for 1844 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,440 fiscal year 2026, 2027 or September 14, 1845 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,160 2026 at 6 pm. 1846 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,119 the same 1847 01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:16,070 >> same thing 1848 01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:16,080 » same thing 1849 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,510 >> just for [clears throat] tax rate. 1850 01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:17,520 » just for [clears throat] tax rate. 1851 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,030 >> I make a motion that we approve 1852 01:08:19,030 --> 01:08:19,040 » I make a motion that we approve 1853 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,000 resolution number 26R9 setting the date 1854 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,679 and time for the public hearing on the 1855 01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:26,239 proposed tax rate for fiscal year 2026 1856 01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:32,400 2027 for September 14th, 2026 at 6 p.m. 1857 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,359 I'll second that. Okay. All in favor? 1858 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:39,030 >> I Okay, the motion carries. 1859 01:08:39,030 --> 01:08:39,040 » I Okay, the motion carries. 1860 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:42,000 Um item approved consent agenda was only 1861 01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,040 a for future time future meeting. 1862 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:46,229 >> No, it's two days. 1863 01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:46,239 » No, it's two days. 1864 01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:47,189 >> Okay. 1865 01:08:47,189 --> 01:08:47,199 » Okay. 1866 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:49,669 >> Um so for the approval of a personnel 1867 01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:49,679 » Um so for the approval of a personnel 1868 01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:52,640 policy, um I sent that out to you all 1869 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,400 and in my memo I said that it had no 1870 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,560 financial implication implications on 1871 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,960 our budget. Um it did. I did not intend 1872 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,920 to leave in that vacation provision. Um, 1873 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,359 there was actually two other policies 1874 01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:05,279 that I pulled out of this approval 1875 01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:07,839 because I feel like it 1876 01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:10,159 affects our budget and council deserves 1877 01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:11,679 to have a workshop on that and talk 1878 01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:14,000 about it. One was um a sick leave pool 1879 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,560 and the other was parental leave. Um, I 1880 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,080 didn't propose parental leave, but it 1881 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,560 had been discussed in a previous review. 1882 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,319 Um, a little bit of a backstory on the 1883 01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:23,759 personnel policy. We've been reviewing 1884 01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:28,480 this policy since 2019. Um, we did a 1885 01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:31,600 month-long review with staff to go 1886 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,319 through every policy, make changes, and 1887 01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:36,319 this was in 2019. We had a change of 1888 01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,000 administration. It never came to 1889 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:42,000 council. So, it was my goal to get it 1890 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,440 done. And so, in January of this year, I 1891 01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:45,040 did a complete overhaul while keeping 1892 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:48,000 the spirit of that review together along 1893 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,960 with best practices and current law. And 1894 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,759 I did this current policy that I present 1895 01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:55,760 to you today. Um, so I did keep that 1896 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,840 parental leave provision as a policy to 1897 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,440 present at a later date. Um, and then 1898 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:04,159 the sick leave pool, that's not 1899 01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:05,679 something I want to venture into right 1900 01:10:05,679 --> 01:10:06,719 now while we're trying to get switched 1901 01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:11,440 over to this new HR company. Um, so when 1902 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:14,239 Steve brought it up to me that we 1903 01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:15,600 were going to be paying out vacation 1904 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,640 leave, which was not something we 1905 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,320 currently do, I wanted to go ahead and 1906 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,840 remove that also until we can discuss 1907 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,600 with council. And actually Trish and I 1908 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,120 sit down to work numbers to see what how 1909 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,040 that would even affect us if every 1910 01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:26,719 person in the city period got paid out 1911 01:10:26,719 --> 01:10:28,960 10 hours at the end of the year. Um so 1912 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,560 the policy I'm presenting to you that I 1913 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:34,080 put on your desks um is to put no salary 1914 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,760 provisions in L of vacation which this 1915 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,719 is the exact policy to follow. Now you 1916 01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:40,719 can carry over 40 hours. If you don't 1917 01:10:40,719 --> 01:10:42,400 you lose it or you can write a letter to 1918 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,679 the city manager explaining why you 1919 01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:45,360 didn't get to use it. And it's a case by 1920 01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,320 case basis of um carrying a leave over. 1921 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:49,920 Usually it's we had hurricane, nobody 1922 01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,000 used to take off for six, four months or 1923 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,560 whatever we have or you didn't get your 1924 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,080 vacation until November and you couldn't 1925 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:57,760 take 80 hours in between November and 1926 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,719 December. So few and far between maybe 1927 01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:03,440 one or two a year if we do at all that 1928 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:07,360 we carry over leave. Um so that's that 1929 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,320 change. The other definition 1930 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,560 is or the other policy I wanted to amend 1931 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,400 with you here on the fly was the 1932 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,679 definitions. Um few years ago we got in 1933 01:11:17,679 --> 01:11:20,000 some a little bit of an issue with 1934 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,600 what's considered full-time not 1935 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,719 full-time and we had to switch health 1936 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:27,520 benefits because of this. So um we 1937 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,239 clarified a little bit about what 1938 01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:31,920 entitles you as a full-time employee to 1939 01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,960 benefits. Um but in our conversations it 1940 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,679 did not exactly define how many hours a 1941 01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:40,320 full-time employee is which could leave 1942 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,239 an employee to feel entitled that just 1943 01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:43,679 because I work 32 hours I'm not 1944 01:11:43,679 --> 01:11:45,360 part-time. So maybe an employee feels 1945 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,040 like they could work 32 hours, which is 1946 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,800 not the case. So I went in there and 1947 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,040 added additional language that it says 1948 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:52,239 that a full-time employee is somebody 1949 01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:54,159 who at least works 40 hours per work 1950 01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:56,640 week. Um, so that's the only change to 1951 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,040 that definition. Our work week is still 1952 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,719 40 hours. It's not that's not changing. 1953 01:12:00,719 --> 01:12:01,760 We just wanted to get a little bit more 1954 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,520 specific. So there was no gray area for 1955 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:06,960 somebody to say, "Oh, well, your policy 1956 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,440 says it's 32 hours." So that's that. Um, 1957 01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,920 HRP has reviewed this. I sent it to them 1958 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,840 a few weeks ago for their legal team and 1959 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,640 their HR um our rep to review it and 1960 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,320 make sure that it complies with law and 1961 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,360 best practices and um they did not send 1962 01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,199 back any adjustments or notes to what I 1963 01:12:25,199 --> 01:12:27,760 sent them. Uh did not send it to our 1964 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,520 legal team because they have attorneys 1965 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,280 that employment attorneys that review it 1966 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,159 also. Uh so I just need to see if we can 1967 01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:35,360 get this approved so that way we can 1968 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,120 move forward with the new company. Um 1969 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,480 today is our last day of payroll in our 1970 01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,440 own bubble. So starting tomorrow, we are 1971 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,800 with HRP for timekeeping in all of their 1972 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,199 services officially like ripping the 1973 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:50,800 bandaid off we're going. So I want to 1974 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,480 get these done and so they have a clean 1975 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,880 slate of policies to go forward where 1976 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,480 our employees need them. 1977 01:12:58,480 --> 01:12:58,880 Question. 1978 01:12:58,880 --> 01:12:59,830 >> Yes. 1979 01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:59,840 » Yes. 1980 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,350 >> So 1981 01:13:01,350 --> 01:13:01,360 » So 1982 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,400 current the current policy says that uh 1983 01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,040 on leave without pay for 10 days that 1984 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,840 council has to approve anything over 10 1985 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,679 days. But the new polic 1986 01:13:11,679 --> 01:13:14,640 that goes to you without council 1987 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,360 authority. Is that correct? 1988 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:20,790 >> Let me reread it. Last dug deep into 1989 01:13:20,790 --> 01:13:20,800 » Let me reread it. Last dug deep into 1990 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,920 these in February. Um, but let me pull 1991 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:30,229 it back up so I can answer 1992 01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:32,080 the one I sent y'all where has the notes 1993 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,760 the changes. Do you know which policy 1994 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,159 number is off the top of your head? 1995 01:13:36,159 --> 01:14:05,030 >> Yeah. So chemical. 1996 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,280 Next time I'll give you advance. Sorry. 1997 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,709 >> You're not not bothered at all. It's 1998 01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:08,719 » You're not not bothered at all. It's 1999 01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:14,630 taking Okay. 2000 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,640 » I guess my real question is then is 2001 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,199 there maximum duration of time that the 2002 01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:22,159 city manager can authorize 2003 01:14:22,159 --> 01:14:25,750 after you. 2004 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:45,830 » A lot of policy reference. 2005 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:46,800 Thought we were going to change the 2006 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:53,997 verbiage of fulltime to 60 hours. 2007 01:14:54,007 --> 01:15:01,910 [laughter] 2008 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,480 » I mean, y'all do it already. So, 2009 01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:07,590 >> but it's not required. 2010 01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:07,600 » but it's not required. 2011 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:08,709 >> I'll do it with a smile 2012 01:15:08,709 --> 01:15:08,719 » I'll do it with a smile 2013 01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:14,149 >> with the courtesy. Okay, I'm here. 2014 01:15:14,149 --> 01:15:14,159 » with the courtesy. Okay, I'm here. 2015 01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:16,550 >> Cliff had 120 a week. 2016 01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:16,560 » Cliff had 120 a week. 2017 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,750 >> Cliff's like, "Oh, that'd be perfect. 2018 01:15:19,750 --> 01:15:19,760 » Cliff's like, "Oh, that'd be perfect. 2019 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:23,270 >> I get to see my house." 2020 01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:23,280 » I get to see my house." 2021 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,280 I think Steve I think this came back to 2022 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,719 remember we had the employees that were 2023 01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:29,120 out and the council did grant approval 2024 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,719 um 2025 01:15:30,719 --> 01:15:32,719 to additionally without pay which was 2026 01:15:32,719 --> 01:15:36,080 outside of I guess according to our 2027 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:37,760 current benefit administrator at the 2028 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,520 time it was outside of their pervy to be 2029 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,719 able to do. So I think what this is my 2030 01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:45,199 goal with this changing this was that um 2031 01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:47,040 the city manager would have to then 2032 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,400 approve it and you said 104 word saying 2033 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,960 request um department directors may 2034 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:54,080 approve short-term leave without pay 2035 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,679 request consistent with its policy and 2036 01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:57,360 then request that a material impact 2037 01:15:57,360 --> 01:15:59,600 operations go to the city manager 2038 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,120 because we removed that 10day provision 2039 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,120 I think alto together 2040 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,440 that was the proposed the 2019 proposed 2041 01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:07,360 language and then what I'm proposing is 2042 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,640 no longer going to be a 10day at All 2043 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,120 it's it's to maintain that 32 hours 2044 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,880 which will be allowing eight hours of 2045 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,679 unpaid leave approval like allowable by 2046 01:16:17,679 --> 01:16:21,520 a director and then anything else has to 2047 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:23,600 go to the city manager for approval. 2048 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,120 That way we can ensure that employees 2049 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,360 that are using more leave without pay 2050 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,679 than probably allowed are eligible for 2051 01:16:29,679 --> 01:16:32,400 FMLA and still maintain their status for 2052 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,040 benefits. Um, I think putting it to 2053 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,040 council, they were by granting it, it 2054 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,199 was outside their even scope of ability 2055 01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:41,600 to give them leave without pay. 2056 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:42,709 >> Absolutely good with the change. 2057 01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:42,719 » Absolutely good with the change. 2058 01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:44,229 >> You know what I mean? But I don't I I 2059 01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:44,239 » You know what I mean? But I don't I I 2060 01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:46,800 think that 10 days out because it that I 2061 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,199 think that was just a a number that was 2062 01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:52,719 chosen by I mean we left it in that 2019 2063 01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:54,960 proposed if you look at the working 2064 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,480 document that I sent out separately. Um, 2065 01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:00,080 we remove that 10 days alto together 2066 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,719 because we want to maintain this uh 2067 01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:05,760 regular employee or the part-time 2068 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,600 schedule or that make sure they don't 2069 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,679 dip down to a part-time equivalent 2070 01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:11,199 because if you're part-time equivalent, 2071 01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:13,199 you don't get benefits and we needed to 2072 01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:15,920 set a hard line of 2073 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,840 especially since we are no longer with a 2074 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,679 pool. It we have a little bit more 2075 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:21,679 power. We didn't then at the time we 2076 01:17:21,679 --> 01:17:23,920 didn't know we didn't have that power. 2077 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,440 um 2078 01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,120 council at this point I think could 2079 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,800 grant as much leave without pay they 2080 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,280 wanted to because we're privately 2081 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,120 partnered with our insurance and no 2082 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:37,040 longer in like a a pool. Um 2083 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:38,400 but I think we wanted to remove that 2084 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:40,560 number and just do a case by case basis 2085 01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,159 and as long as they qualify for 2086 01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:44,960 disability or FMLA then then that's what 2087 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,719 the city managers able to approve. 2088 01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:49,440 Um, 2089 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,830 >> okay. That helps. 2090 01:17:51,830 --> 01:17:51,840 » okay. That helps. 2091 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,440 On the red line version that you sent 2092 01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:55,360 me, the 10 was still in there. That's 2093 01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:56,800 fine. 2094 01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,630 >> I see here in the 2019 proposed. Yeah. 2095 01:18:00,630 --> 01:18:00,640 » I see here in the 2019 proposed. Yeah. 2096 01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,360 No, I don't want I don't want that for 2097 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,719 sure. 2098 01:18:04,719 --> 01:18:06,950 >> I think that it's a strength number 2099 01:18:06,950 --> 01:18:06,960 » I think that it's a strength number 2100 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,880 anyways to be down to 30. Um, 2101 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,719 that's more than it doesn't mean it's a 2102 01:18:12,719 --> 01:18:16,080 full day to be at 30 hours. Um, but yes, 2103 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,360 I I don't I don't want to in there. I 2104 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,679 think we just need to ensure that if we 2105 01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:23,920 have an employee on leave without pay 2106 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,159 that they are still eligible for their 2107 01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:27,590 benefits and don't put the rest rest 2108 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:27,750 rest rest rest rest rest rest rest rest 2109 01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,920 rest rest rest of the 2110 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:41,990 staff at risk by being out 2111 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,400 » quick 2112 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,719 does the definitions of employee and 2113 01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:48,719 volunteer directly conflict with each 2114 01:18:48,719 --> 01:18:54,790 other with what we got going on. 2115 01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,800 » We have paid volunteers and then we have 2116 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,120 the fire department want to be a paid 2117 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:00,000 volunteer. 2118 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,070 >> We don't have a paid volunteer and I'll 2119 01:19:02,070 --> 01:19:02,080 » We don't have a paid volunteer and I'll 2120 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:03,360 clarify that a little bit since it's 2121 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,600 we're talking about personnel. Um the 2122 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,360 executive director for KRB is paid out 2123 01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,560 of their funds and she is a stipened 2124 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,630 >> employee of KRB. She's not an employee. 2125 01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:12,640 » employee of KRB. She's not an employee. 2126 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,199 She's and it's not of the city, it's of 2127 01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:17,040 that group. And I've addressed this with 2128 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:18,800 the fire department also that they maybe 2129 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:20,719 could look at an administrative person 2130 01:19:20,719 --> 01:19:24,000 that they pay out of their funds. Um the 2131 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,080 city's funds do not go towards the care 2132 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,080 director's stuff. 2133 01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,470 >> If we leave this language in here and we 2134 01:19:30,470 --> 01:19:30,480 » If we leave this language in here and we 2135 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:34,000 do the um 2136 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,719 paytoplay volunteer fire department is 2137 01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:39,199 that put that in conflict. 2138 01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:39,590 >> Um 2139 01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:39,600 » Um 2140 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,229 >> like do we make him 2141 01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:42,239 » like do we make him 2142 01:19:42,239 --> 01:19:43,679 employees at that point? Well, I 2143 01:19:43,679 --> 01:19:44,880 definitely plan to have that 2144 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,199 conversation with HRC if we if we go 2145 01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:49,520 that route after the mayor's meeting 2146 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,239 with them. They don't want it. They told 2147 01:19:52,239 --> 01:19:54,239 me not to worry about they don't want to 2148 01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:55,440 be paid per call. 2149 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:57,350 >> They want help me to help with 2150 01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:57,360 » They want help me to help with 2151 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:58,960 recruitment and social media and getting 2152 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:00,320 their name out there. And so that's what 2153 01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,199 we've been doing. Um I've tried to 2154 01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:04,880 follow the calls to get pictures of them 2155 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:06,560 and that's just that's what we're going 2156 01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,080 to do for now. Try and get them more 2157 01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:08,640 help. 2158 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,270 >> Um but they don't want to lose their 2159 01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:11,280 » Um but they don't want to lose their 2160 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,199 discount. And then they made a good 2161 01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:15,679 point. If we start paying them for call, 2162 01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:18,719 it affect affects their taxes. It could 2163 01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:21,120 affect things that they currently they 2164 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,040 don't want to deal with personally. 2165 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,800 That's what they were bringing up to me. 2166 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,280 So, um we are not moving forward with 2167 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,030 that at this point. 2168 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,040 » But if if we did, then we would look at 2169 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,920 new definitions and get HRP to help us 2170 01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:41,990 with that for sure. 2171 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,229 Do you need council to approve? 2172 01:20:46,239 --> 01:20:49,280 » Okay. So, we need to make a motion to uh 2173 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:54,870 approve consent agenda item A. 2174 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,000 Making a motion to uh approve consent 2175 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,520 agenda item A, approval of the revised 2176 01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,800 personnel policy handbook. 2177 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:05,750 >> Second. 2178 01:21:05,750 --> 01:21:05,760 » Second. 2179 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,149 >> Okay. All in favor? I 2180 01:21:08,149 --> 01:21:08,159 » Okay. All in favor? I 2181 01:21:08,159 --> 01:21:12,950 >> the motion carries. 2182 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,199 » Next up, 2183 01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:18,560 capital improvement projects update. 2184 01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,750 >> I don't there's nothing new um to really 2185 01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:21,760 » I don't there's nothing new um to really 2186 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,120 report on. I think it might be might be 2187 01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,679 good to make mention with regards to the 2188 01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:30,880 sauce tonight and the money additional 2189 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:34,880 monies additional potential monies. Um 2190 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,000 and you know the the promises are 2191 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,159 without action. You know we're looking 2192 01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:43,440 at several things um 2193 01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,320 fairly immediately. Uh could be some 2194 01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,280 some parks improvements with assistance 2195 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,719 from a grant. Um we plan to propose a 2196 01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:55,199 fairly decent size drainage improvement 2197 01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:57,040 next year somewhere between 10 to 2198 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,360 $400,000. 2199 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,120 Uh we have some capital improvements. 2200 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,840 Some outdated electrical is coming up 2201 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,440 probably somewhere between 150 and 2202 01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:08,159 200,000. That's all coming council's way 2203 01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:11,199 next year. Uh right now the major 2204 01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:14,239 infrastructure um being the water tower 2205 01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:16,639 is is currently under consideration with 2206 01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:19,600 the grant. But even even the parks 2207 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,679 projects, something like that, the 2208 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:24,639 grants are a one to one match. Um the 2209 01:22:24,639 --> 01:22:26,560 initial project for the park is 2210 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,880 $880,000. 2211 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,480 So we're looking at a possible 2212 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:34,000 contribution of $440. 2213 01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,480 Um if we can qualify for that grant. So 2214 01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:40,719 these things are coming to council and 2215 01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:43,520 they're coming in next year. Those are 2216 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,440 three um of the dozens that I could 2217 01:22:47,440 --> 01:22:48,719 throw out there. I've got to try to 2218 01:22:48,719 --> 01:22:50,800 prioritize some of the group, but 2219 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,400 they're coming your way. So, please know 2220 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,960 that that decisions you make are not 2221 01:22:56,960 --> 01:22:58,719 it's not unwarranted. There's several 2222 01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:01,520 things that we need to do and we did 2223 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,120 decide to hold off on a lot of those 2224 01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,520 this year just with the all the movement 2225 01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,400 that it's coming to you. 2226 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,149 >> If I could just make one comment I 2227 01:23:10,149 --> 01:23:10,159 » If I could just make one comment I 2228 01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:13,600 thought of um we can amend our budget. 2229 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,320 So, if something like this comes, we can 2230 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,280 amend our budget to allow for it. But 2231 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,239 once that tax rate is set, 2232 01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:25,040 it's set. We can't go back and say, "Oh, 2233 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,679 I wish we would have that 200,000 or 2234 01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:29,520 whatever." I just wanted to make that 2235 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,239 clear. 2236 01:23:30,239 --> 01:23:32,950 >> Is it possible to overlay budget talks 2237 01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:32,960 » Is it possible to overlay budget talks 2238 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,760 with our five and 10 year plans? Can you 2239 01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,080 talk about [clears throat] like what 2240 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:39,920 basically making the citizens aware of 2241 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,840 what that capital improvement projects 2242 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,239 would be? If I said, "Hey, Cliff, if we 2243 01:23:44,239 --> 01:23:47,280 had $500,000 left over next year, which 2244 01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,000 we're projecting out of our 10-year 2245 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:53,120 plan, can we check anything off?" 2246 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,030 >> Yeah, we could do we could do something 2247 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:55,040 » Yeah, we could do we could do something 2248 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,280 like that. We when we had the master 2249 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,600 plan done, it's important for council 2250 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:00,800 know that the only one that we had 2251 01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,800 tiered per year blocks 5, 10, 15, 25 2252 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,960 were the water and wastewater. So the 2253 01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,800 streets, the drainage and the parks 2254 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,840 master plan are not they we left that 2255 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,480 all to council to decide. Uh to be 2256 01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:16,800 honest um you know we didn't know where 2257 01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,679 the funding was coming from. Um so we 2258 01:24:19,679 --> 01:24:21,520 didn't get as detailed. We wanted to get 2259 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,080 the high level projects kind of get them 2260 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,560 itemized by or prioritized by um public 2261 01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,679 input, staff input, council input and 2262 01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:34,159 let y'all decide as we go. Right now 2263 01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:37,840 we're just using um public input, but 2264 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,080 yeah, we can we can begin to start 2265 01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,000 working on that. 2266 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,030 >> Used to we would have um workshops where 2267 01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:45,040 » Used to we would have um workshops where 2268 01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,400 we would bring someone in to help 2269 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,719 council come up with a strategic plan 2270 01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:50,639 and a plan of what what they wanted to 2271 01:24:50,639 --> 01:24:53,040 see for for so far. We got to the point 2272 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,120 where we were strategic planning, but we 2273 01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:56,560 had no money to do anything. So, it was 2274 01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:57,679 like what are we doing? 2275 01:24:57,679 --> 01:24:59,510 >> Exactly. But that's not a bad idea now 2276 01:24:59,510 --> 01:24:59,520 » Exactly. But that's not a bad idea now 2277 01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:00,960 that we're getting ourselves into a 2278 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,679 better position and we're needing things 2279 01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:06,080 and needing to come up with we there's 2280 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,920 people that will come to us and hold 2281 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,719 Saturday workshops for us and walk y'all 2282 01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:12,639 through coming up with that kind of 2283 01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:13,120 plan. 2284 01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,870 >> We could do that before. We us we used 2285 01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:14,880 » We could do that before. We us we used 2286 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,199 to would do it in May after elections, 2287 01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:20,310 >> but you hopefully you'll agree this this 2288 01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:20,320 » but you hopefully you'll agree this this 2289 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,000 council is far easier to work with 2290 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,910 >> than those councils were. And they 2291 01:25:25,910 --> 01:25:25,920 » than those councils were. And they 2292 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,199 desperately needed 2293 01:25:27,199 --> 01:25:27,669 >> guidance, 2294 01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:27,679 » guidance, 2295 01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:30,149 >> that guidance before we started getting 2296 01:25:30,149 --> 01:25:30,159 » that guidance before we started getting 2297 01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:32,400 some of these plans in place for 2298 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:33,760 something tangible for council to look 2299 01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,520 at and actually have something, you 2300 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,600 know, to base their decisions on. 2301 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,430 >> So we we can do that. 2302 01:25:39,430 --> 01:25:39,440 » So we we can do that. 2303 01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:41,910 >> Yeah. And to the point of Bob with the 2304 01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:41,920 » Yeah. And to the point of Bob with the 2305 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,080 workshops and having them all day, it's 2306 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,679 mainly because we didn't have much we 2307 01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:48,000 could plan for or do, but we're getting 2308 01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:49,199 to a point where we could have these 2309 01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:52,000 where we sit down and talk have a lot 2310 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:53,760 longer discussion on funds and what 2311 01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,360 we're going to do with them down the 2312 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:56,800 road instead of just looking at one year 2313 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:57,600 at a time. 2314 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:59,030 >> We've been one year at a time for many 2315 01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:59,040 » We've been one year at a time for many 2316 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,639 years. Yes, I think it would be far more 2317 01:26:00,639 --> 01:26:02,960 productive now than it was back then, 2318 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,480 especially with our current financial 2319 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:06,480 position and getting a little bit better 2320 01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:09,360 and a little bit more solid. But really, 2321 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:10,960 to be honest with you, where the metal 2322 01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,360 meets the meat, we haven't done much 2323 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,600 five, 10 year planning. We're lucky to 2324 01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,520 get two years down the road. 2325 01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,149 >> It's just sweet. 2326 01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:20,159 » It's just sweet. 2327 01:26:20,159 --> 01:26:21,189 >> Curve balls are just 2328 01:26:21,189 --> 01:26:21,199 » Curve balls are just 2329 01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:22,470 >> Yeah, once we get through this, we 2330 01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:22,480 » Yeah, once we get through this, we 2331 01:26:22,480 --> 01:26:23,840 should maybe Trish and I can sit down 2332 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,320 and look at a new budget calendar. 2333 01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,480 It just makes that $220,000 more 2334 01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,400 palatable for sure. I know it's going to 2335 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,120 go to 2336 01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:32,149 >> Right. 100%. 2337 01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:32,159 » Right. 100%. 2338 01:26:32,159 --> 01:26:32,470 >> Absolutely. 2339 01:26:32,470 --> 01:26:32,480 » Absolutely. 2340 01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:33,990 >> And I agree. And 2341 01:26:33,990 --> 01:26:34,000 » And I agree. And 2342 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,590 >> and um you know, six years ago, our fund 2343 01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:37,600 » and um you know, six years ago, our fund 2344 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,520 balances were not anywhere near where 2345 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:40,400 they are now, 2346 01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:40,790 >> right? 2347 01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:40,800 » right? 2348 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:44,950 >> Um we worked hard to get them there. 2349 01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:44,960 » Um we worked hard to get them there. 2350 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,709 >> And I' I've actually been kind of 2351 01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:46,719 » And I' I've actually been kind of 2352 01:26:46,719 --> 01:26:48,639 waiting to start dropping these. 2353 01:26:48,639 --> 01:26:49,510 >> Yeah. So, 2354 01:26:49,510 --> 01:26:49,520 » Yeah. So, 2355 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,950 >> we couldn't we couldn't really do 2356 01:26:50,950 --> 01:26:50,960 » we couldn't we couldn't really do 2357 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,760 anything without any sort of I can't 2358 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,960 tell you any $30 million. a way to 2359 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,110 >> tell you how to how to produce it or or 2360 01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:59,120 » tell you how to how to produce it or or 2361 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,719 to get it get it produced with funding. 2362 01:27:00,719 --> 01:27:03,040 I can't um but now we're looking better 2363 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,440 and we can start those discussions. 2364 01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,510 >> Yeah. Well, and we'll get a plan in 2365 01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:07,520 » Yeah. Well, and we'll get a plan in 2366 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,040 place for this for the next year. 2367 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:09,590 >> Oh yeah. 2368 01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:09,600 » Oh yeah. 2369 01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:10,790 >> While we're kind of thrown into this in 2370 01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:10,800 » While we're kind of thrown into this in 2371 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,560 May um al together. Uh so we're going to 2372 01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:15,840 we're going to come back next year with 2373 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:19,120 a a better process 2374 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,870 >> and we have lots of ideas. So this year 2375 01:27:20,870 --> 01:27:20,880 » and we have lots of ideas. So this year 2376 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,639 we were chasing our tail to get to this 2377 01:27:22,639 --> 01:27:27,360 point. Um, but it'll actually be nice to 2378 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,840 be able to actually plan beyond let's 2379 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,639 hold our head above water this year. 2380 01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:34,070 >> We're feeling more confident with that 2381 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:34,080 » We're feeling more confident with that 2382 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,280 now than we ever have up. 2383 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:35,830 >> 100%. 2384 01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:35,840 » 100%. 2385 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:36,229 >> Yeah. 2386 01:27:36,229 --> 01:27:36,239 » Yeah. 2387 01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:37,430 >> Yeah. I agree. 2388 01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:37,440 » Yeah. I agree. 2389 01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:39,510 >> That's all I Well, Cliff, I appreciate 2390 01:27:39,510 --> 01:27:39,520 » That's all I Well, Cliff, I appreciate 2391 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:40,639 you saying that. 2392 01:27:40,639 --> 01:27:42,310 >> Like the decisions that I'm making up 2393 01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:42,320 » Like the decisions that I'm making up 2394 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,040 here, I realize are not just going to 2395 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,800 affect us this year or the next budget 2396 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,719 year. These are these are things that 2397 01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:50,960 will affect us for 5 years, 10 years 2398 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,679 down the road, right? So, that's why I 2399 01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:56,639 was uh looking at the rate like I was. I 2400 01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,320 know you have a lot of stuff that needs 2401 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,560 to needs to get done. But, I appreciate 2402 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,560 you saying that because it helps the 2403 01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:05,840 citizens understand as well that again, 2404 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:07,360 we're not just trying to rake in a bunch 2405 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,880 of money. We got stuff to do. 2406 01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,709 >> So, as soon as y'all told us we could 2407 01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:10,719 » So, as soon as y'all told us we could 2408 01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:13,360 get some plans going, we were looking. 2409 01:28:13,360 --> 01:28:15,830 >> Just so you know, I missed one slide. I 2410 01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:15,840 » Just so you know, I missed one slide. I 2411 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,760 didn't go to the last slide, but that'll 2412 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:22,229 show you guys history of our tax rate. 2413 01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,080 » Thank you. 2414 01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:27,030 >> Yes, thank 2415 01:28:27,030 --> 01:28:27,040 » Yes, thank 2416 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,040 otherwise all they see is increased 2417 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,880 taxes and pitch come out. 2418 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:32,709 >> We'll also do our part to make it public 2419 01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:32,719 » We'll also do our part to make it public 2420 01:28:32,719 --> 01:28:34,239 once we can get a little bit more solid 2421 01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:36,159 direction. We'll do we'll do our due 2422 01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:37,840 diligence to make sure the word gets out 2423 01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,679 there. We've been playing catchup and 2424 01:28:39,679 --> 01:28:41,840 now we can 2425 01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:42,400 move forward. 2426 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:44,470 >> It's just it's not easy to put out these 2427 01:28:44,470 --> 01:28:44,480 » It's just it's not easy to put out these 2428 01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:46,159 big ideas when we don't know if we're 2429 01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:48,400 going to get them funded. So, it's like 2430 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,960 I have been stewing on just our parks 2431 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,639 master plan that we did. We put out a 2432 01:28:52,639 --> 01:28:55,360 really cool looking park and we're 2433 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,199 almost two years later and it's like 2434 01:28:57,199 --> 01:28:58,950 >> then hopefully council understands that 2435 01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:58,960 » then hopefully council understands that 2436 01:28:58,960 --> 01:28:59,760 you know 2437 01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,310 >> $20,000 $50,000 a little bit more 2438 01:29:02,310 --> 01:29:02,320 » $20,000 $50,000 a little bit more 2439 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,159 palatable than 400,000 to a million and 2440 01:29:06,159 --> 01:29:08,239 that is very honestly what we're looking 2441 01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:10,320 at here very easily what we're looking 2442 01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:13,360 at but we could like just stuff we need 2443 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,400 to do now nothing extra 2444 01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,669 >> and I hate to pass up free money because 2445 01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:19,679 » and I hate to pass up free money because 2446 01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:21,520 we don't have the other half you know 2447 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,280 the match. 2448 01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,920 Um, 2449 01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,629 >> no new trucks. We got to save it for the 2450 01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:28,639 » no new trucks. We got to save it for the 2451 01:29:28,639 --> 01:29:28,960 parks. 2452 01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:30,070 >> Well, we got those, too. 2453 01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:30,080 » Well, we got those, too. 2454 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,229 >> There's $60,000 in your budget for a new 2455 01:29:32,229 --> 01:29:32,239 » There's $60,000 in your budget for a new 2456 01:29:32,239 --> 01:29:34,880 truck. [laughter] 2457 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:39,590 >> Okay. Thank you, Cliff. 2458 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,199 » City manager report. 2459 01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:43,030 >> So, again, thanks to Trish and all of 2460 01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:43,040 » So, again, thanks to Trish and all of 2461 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:44,800 staff for their work on the on the 2462 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,040 budget. Um, and I really, I say it 2463 01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,239 again, I said it earlier, but I really 2464 01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:50,560 do appreciate all of council taking the 2465 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:52,560 time to ask questions and be involved 2466 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:54,080 um, outside of the meeting, reaching out 2467 01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,920 to us separately or and then bringing it 2468 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,560 back here to all um, brainstorm 2469 01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,199 together. It helps us tremendously. It 2470 01:30:01,199 --> 01:30:03,199 catches things that we may not catch. We 2471 01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:05,840 are spread thin right now. And um, 2472 01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:08,719 having another set of eyes, it we're not 2473 01:30:08,719 --> 01:30:10,639 offended. It's anything you ask us and 2474 01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:12,960 and we we need all the help. And um, 2475 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,400 that's why you're here. you're here to 2476 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,320 be the the second set of eyes for things 2477 01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,320 we do. Um, and I want to thank all of 2478 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:19,920 our new council members that are 2479 01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:23,280 attending new council training. Um, Mr. 2480 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,920 Dunn just got back and then um I won't 2481 01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,760 blame him for not being able to go but 2482 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,159 did want to go. And then Councilman Ra 2483 01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:32,400 and Mayor are going this week for newly 2484 01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,159 elected officials training. I have been 2485 01:30:34,159 --> 01:30:35,920 city secretary since 2019. I have not 2486 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,480 had anyone ever go. Um, I've always put 2487 01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:42,159 it out there and um, they are taking 2488 01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:43,840 time out of their own days, their own 2489 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,000 work, their own lives, whatever they do 2490 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:49,120 normally to travel hours to be better 2491 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,159 for the city and I appreciate it. Um, it 2492 01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:53,280 won't be the last thing that I probably 2493 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,440 ask y'all to do um, on behalf of the 2494 01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:56,800 city and I think y'all are up to the 2495 01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,600 task and going to represent us well. Um, 2496 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:01,040 school starts this week. I'm sure I'm 2497 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,960 going to dump all of you on your 2498 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,159 comments. Um, but just be careful, keep 2499 01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:07,840 your eyes and ears open for kids. 2500 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:08,800 They're going to be walking, riding 2501 01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,639 bikes, and it's going to be a little bit 2502 01:31:10,639 --> 01:31:13,760 more hectic in the neighborhoods this 2503 01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,159 week. And then, um, thanks to the police 2504 01:31:16,159 --> 01:31:17,920 department, they've had some heavy calls 2505 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,440 last few months. Um, one this weekend. 2506 01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:23,760 And, um, our thoughts are out to all the 2507 01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,520 families affected. And then our officers 2508 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,840 have to go out for that. Also, um, fire 2509 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,560 department's been kicking butt and 2510 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,880 taking names, and we're appreciative of 2511 01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:34,960 them. Also, I'm trying to tag along when 2512 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,960 I can because I want to be in their 2513 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,280 business and see what they're doing. 2514 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:42,000 They won't get me. 2515 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,510 >> They just want you to drive the truck. 2516 01:31:43,510 --> 01:31:43,520 » They just want you to drive the truck. 2517 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:44,149 >> I can drive. 2518 01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:44,159 » I can drive. 2519 01:31:44,159 --> 01:31:45,830 >> Halloween costumes are coming out. I can 2520 01:31:45,830 --> 01:31:45,840 » Halloween costumes are coming out. I can 2521 01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,280 drive one, but that's all I got. 2522 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,830 >> Oh, gosh. 2523 01:31:49,830 --> 01:31:49,840 » Oh, gosh. 2524 01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,070 >> Yes, they are. 2525 01:31:52,070 --> 01:31:52,080 » Yes, they are. 2526 01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,189 >> Thank you. Uh, Council Member Riyle, do 2527 01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:55,199 » Thank you. Uh, Council Member Riyle, do 2528 01:31:55,199 --> 01:31:56,400 you have anything you wish to add? 2529 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,310 >> Yeah, I'm looking forward to going to 2530 01:31:58,310 --> 01:31:58,320 » Yeah, I'm looking forward to going to 2531 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,360 Round Rock and learning what I'm doing 2532 01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,629 here. 2533 01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:06,560 This this is this is kind of 2534 01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:08,480 overwhelming for someone that hasn't 2535 01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:12,800 done anything politically in 2536 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,920 a long time. I want to give my age a 2537 01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:18,000 long time and so I'm looking forward to 2538 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,000 seeing what I can do. 2539 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,270 >> We appreciate that. 2540 01:32:23,270 --> 01:32:23,280 » We appreciate that. 2541 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,593 >> Thank you, sir. Counc, 2542 01:32:26,593 --> 01:32:26,603 » Thank you, sir. Counc, 2543 01:32:26,603 --> 01:32:28,080 [clears throat] 2544 01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,000 if you if you're listening, uh thanks 2545 01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,560 for the remarks. Uh much appreciated. 2546 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:35,520 Your your comments didn't go unnoticed. 2547 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,480 Um 2548 01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:42,159 I would tell you um 2549 01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:44,719 there's consideration on all fees on all 2550 01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:47,679 all sides. Um and and there's nothing in 2551 01:32:47,679 --> 01:32:49,440 this world that's not going up in price. 2552 01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:51,600 So I think we did the due diligence and 2553 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,040 please have faith in us in in that 2554 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,480 aspect. Um thanks for kind of letting me 2555 01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:58,800 go to that TML training. It was much 2556 01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,920 appreciated. Very enlightening. Um, you 2557 01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:03,760 will talk you will talk a lot about tax 2558 01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:05,920 rates. Unfortunately, you'll get some 2559 01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,199 more of it. Um, I made it pretty easy to 2560 01:33:09,199 --> 01:33:11,920 digest uh everything that we're hearing 2561 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,760 last month and this month with 2562 01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,040 budgeting. So, you'll kind of learn 2563 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,040 that. Uh, and then it's good to get in a 2564 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,760 room with 300 individuals from across 2565 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,639 the state and you realize how green our 2566 01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:25,040 grass is. Um, you realize how good the 2567 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:30,239 city truly is. Um so has you makes you 2568 01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:33,600 appreciate coming back here. Um other 2569 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,000 than that it is back to school. Tonight 2570 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:38,639 was uh meet the teacher. So school zones 2571 01:33:38,639 --> 01:33:40,719 ideally the the lights will be working 2572 01:33:40,719 --> 01:33:44,000 on 2004 there and uh watch out and be 2573 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:45,440 safe. 2574 01:33:45,440 --> 01:33:49,510 >> Thank you sir. 2575 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,360 » The only thing I have I apologize for 2576 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:52,960 not being able to make the meeting 2577 01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:55,760 unfortunate accident. So other than 2578 01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,480 that, I'm pretty good. I appreciate 2579 01:33:58,480 --> 01:34:00,639 everybody showing up. I wish we had a 2580 01:34:00,639 --> 01:34:04,199 little more attendance, but uh 2581 01:34:04,199 --> 01:34:05,360 [clears throat] anybody's watching, I 2582 01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,440 really encourage them to show up and and 2583 01:34:07,440 --> 01:34:09,760 give their input. 2584 01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,320 That's all I have. Thank you, sir. 2585 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,669 That's our 2586 01:34:15,679 --> 01:34:16,719 Trisha. 2587 01:34:16,719 --> 01:34:17,430 >> Yes, sir. 2588 01:34:17,430 --> 01:34:17,440 » Yes, sir. 2589 01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,270 >> Thank you very much. 2590 01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:19,280 » Thank you very much. 2591 01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,760 I know how much work you guys put into 2592 01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,880 uh the budget preparation. So, 2593 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,390 >> you used to hear the screaming. 2594 01:34:26,390 --> 01:34:26,400 » you used to hear the screaming. 2595 01:34:26,400 --> 01:34:26,950 >> I'm sorry. 2596 01:34:26,950 --> 01:34:26,960 » I'm sorry. 2597 01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:28,709 >> You used to hear the screaming from you. 2598 01:34:28,709 --> 01:34:28,719 » You used to hear the screaming from you. 2599 01:34:28,719 --> 01:34:30,310 >> I did used to hear the screaming. I'm 2600 01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:30,320 » I did used to hear the screaming. I'm 2601 01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,000 glad I don't hear it anymore. Like, this 2602 01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:33,840 is a wonderful season for me. [laughter] 2603 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,320 So, thank you all very much. I 2604 01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:38,880 appreciate the work. 2605 01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:39,669 >> That's it. 2606 01:34:39,669 --> 01:34:39,679 » That's it. 2607 01:34:39,679 --> 01:34:44,070 >> That's it. Well, I quadruple or second 2608 01:34:44,070 --> 01:34:44,080 » That's it. Well, I quadruple or second 2609 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:45,760 or third or whatever you want to say. 2610 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:47,360 Thank y'all for the budget. I know 2611 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,120 you'll work hard in it. I love coming up 2612 01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:51,520 here and seeing what you guys are up to 2613 01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,440 daily because y'all are like bees in the 2614 01:34:53,440 --> 01:34:55,679 beehive. I just I never get to go on 2615 01:34:55,679 --> 01:34:57,600 Jeep side over there. I know you're 2616 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,639 busy. Um, you know, I appreciate all 2617 01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:03,120 that y'all are doing for the city. So, 2618 01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,880 it does not go unnoticed. I wish I could 2619 01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,040 stop by more because when I do get to 2620 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:08,960 stop by, Gibson loves to play with 2621 01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,120 y'all. He likes to take funds from the 2622 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,120 city like trash grabbers and raccoon 2623 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:15,920 suits. So, we might go over budget this 2624 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,360 year, but 2625 01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,189 >> that's KRB. That's KB. 2626 01:35:19,189 --> 01:35:19,199 » that's KRB. That's KB. 2627 01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:21,510 >> I know. Happy to do it. 2628 01:35:21,510 --> 01:35:21,520 » I know. Happy to do it. 2629 01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,510 >> I'll keep them out of here. Other than 2630 01:35:23,510 --> 01:35:23,520 » I'll keep them out of here. Other than 2631 01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,480 that, um the principal at Pulk asked 2632 01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:28,800 that everybody drive safe around there. 2633 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,480 Um if not, she's going to put out spike 2634 01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:32,560 strips because she cares about all the 2635 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,520 little kiddos. And u everybody stay 2636 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,360 cool, be safe out there. Uh Chief 2637 01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,120 Richards I know wants everybody to be 2638 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,719 safe in their you know uh after hours 2639 01:35:44,719 --> 01:35:47,199 activities as well. 2640 01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:48,560 And again our prayers and thoughts are 2641 01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,800 with all that were affected even our 2642 01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,320 officers that were there early in the 2643 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,239 morning. 2644 01:35:54,239 --> 01:35:56,800 Moving forward I think that we uh have 2645 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:58,800 some good numbers for you to finalize 2646 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,199 for our budget and carry forward to the 2647 01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:05,360 next year so Cliff can add more noise 2648 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,080 as I always say. So, thank you guys for 2649 01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,360 all your hard work. Everybody in the 2650 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,520 city, even our fire staff that we never 2651 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,639 get to see. I know they're busy, but I I 2652 01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:16,159 do 2653 01:36:16,159 --> 01:36:18,629 >> they probably are I do appreciate 2654 01:36:18,629 --> 01:36:18,639 » they probably are I do appreciate 2655 01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:20,080 everything they I know they've made a 2656 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:21,600 couple fires since we were here last. 2657 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,400 So, I'll bring the marshmallows next 2658 01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:29,280 time. And that's all I have. Um, 2659 01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:30,800 do we have any items of community 2660 01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,199 interest? Um, we are accepting 2661 01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:35,840 applications for charter review and 2662 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,719 CCPD. They're all on our website for 2663 01:36:38,719 --> 01:36:42,159 anyone that is interested. Um, other 2664 01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:46,080 than that, um, I met with KRB last week. 2665 01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,080 They have their meeting and this 2666 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,840 Saturday for just an hour, 9:00 a.m., 2667 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,600 um, Saturday morning, they are really 2668 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,199 needing some help at the community 2669 01:36:55,199 --> 01:36:57,920 garden. It's being overtaken by fire 2670 01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,520 ants. And so, um, we're just going to 2671 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,119 meet there about 8:45 and work for an 2672 01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:07,040 hour and just, you know, anyone that is 2673 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,159 able to come and and help them out. Um, 2674 01:37:10,159 --> 01:37:13,199 I'll be out there and um, you know, just 2675 01:37:13,199 --> 01:37:15,360 to help them with with their guard for 2676 01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,000 an hour or so. That would be great. 2677 01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:19,750 >> Everybody gets to pick up fire ants. 2678 01:37:19,750 --> 01:37:19,760 » Everybody gets to pick up fire ants. 2679 01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,189 >> Yeah. Yeah. 2680 01:37:21,189 --> 01:37:21,199 » Yeah. Yeah. 2681 01:37:21,199 --> 01:37:23,030 >> And no kids. Adults only. We're trying 2682 01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:23,040 » And no kids. Adults only. We're trying 2683 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:23,360 to 2684 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,830 >> adults only. No volunteers from schools 2685 01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:25,840 » adults only. No volunteers from schools 2686 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:27,840 or any organizations. 2687 01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,480 adults. Mayor, can I make one comment? 2688 01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:31,510 >> Yes, ma'am. 2689 01:37:31,510 --> 01:37:31,520 » Yes, ma'am. 2690 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:33,189 >> Um, 2691 01:37:33,189 --> 01:37:33,199 » Um, 2692 01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:35,280 I just want to thank Laura Tiner in 2693 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,320 public. She um, we've had an employee 2694 01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:43,199 out on leave and Laura had to get pulled 2695 01:37:43,199 --> 01:37:47,520 back into her old role and um, at the 2696 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,000 same time learn her new role. She's been 2697 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,159 kicking butt. The employee came back 2698 01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:55,280 today. Hopefully it'll ease up on Laura 2699 01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,600 now some. But I just wanted to thank her 2700 01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:58,480 in my book. 2701 01:37:58,480 --> 01:37:59,910 >> She's been very helpful. She's been 2702 01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:59,920 » She's been very helpful. She's been 2703 01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:02,560 helping me out as well and giving me 2704 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,040 grief. Anybody 2705 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,270 >> I taught her well. 2706 01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:07,280 » I taught her well. 2707 01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:08,149 >> Thank you. 2708 01:38:08,149 --> 01:38:08,159 » Thank you. 2709 01:38:08,159 --> 01:38:09,669 >> Thank you. Thank you. 2710 01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:09,679 » Thank you. Thank you. 2711 01:38:09,679 --> 01:38:11,270 >> You have any future agenda items we'd 2712 01:38:11,270 --> 01:38:11,280 » You have any future agenda items we'd 2713 01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:12,239 like to add? 2714 01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:13,750 >> So, um, we're going to bring the 2715 01:38:13,750 --> 01:38:13,760 » So, um, we're going to bring the 2716 01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,920 software agreement. I did not he Joe, 2717 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,760 he's the our rep that's been um helping 2718 01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:19,040 us out a lot. wanted to come tonight, 2719 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:20,239 but I had to let him know I was not 2720 01:38:20,239 --> 01:38:21,760 putting the agreement on this agenda 2721 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:22,800 just because I wanted to give y'all an 2722 01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,880 option out to get out of it if he didn't 2723 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,719 want to do it. We would understand. Um, 2724 01:38:26,719 --> 01:38:27,840 so we're going to have the fund you 2725 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,520 agreement on next agenda and he'll 2726 01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,159 probably attend so we can meet y'all. 2727 01:38:32,159 --> 01:38:34,480 Um, we have a dilapidated structure that 2728 01:38:34,480 --> 01:38:36,320 I I've been letting youall know about. 2729 01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:36,960 We're going to start getting those 2730 01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,719 notices out and get it put on the 2731 01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:40,800 agenda. um boards and commissions 2732 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,320 appointment. Like War said, we have the 2733 01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,080 full charter review committee to staff 2734 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,239 and we have one position on CCPD and 2735 01:38:46,239 --> 01:38:47,520 then we'll have a tax and budget 2736 01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:49,920 adoption. 2737 01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:51,750 >> Just a few things. We hope to have the 2738 01:38:51,750 --> 01:38:51,760 » Just a few things. We hope to have the 2739 01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:55,119 service contract for solid waste, too. 2740 01:38:55,119 --> 01:38:57,350 >> Oh, well, you all authorize us to extend 2741 01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:57,360 » Oh, well, you all authorize us to extend 2742 01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,320 it. Um he's been working on the they got 2743 01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:03,520 real busy and we're you got uh behind on 2744 01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,199 getting us that updated agreement, but 2745 01:39:05,199 --> 01:39:06,320 we're still working on it. It's coming. 2746 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,040 They did agree to the multi-year. They 2747 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,239 were happy to hear about that. 2748 01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:12,470 >> Okay, good. Good. Our residents should 2749 01:39:12,470 --> 01:39:12,480 » Okay, good. Good. Our residents should 2750 01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:14,400 be happy. 2751 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,990 >> Okay, the time is now 7:40 and no other 2752 01:39:17,990 --> 01:39:18,000 » Okay, the time is now 7:40 and no other 2753 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:21,920 issues to discuss. This meeting is a 2754 01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,390 >> law 2755 01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:24,400 » law 2756 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:25,760 require [clears throat] 2757 01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,600 signature. 2758 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:29,350 >> The problem maybe just the mayor if it's 2759 01:39:29,350 --> 01:39:29,360 » The problem maybe just the mayor if it's 2760 01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,600 not too much. They've already authorized 2761 01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:36,480 me to engage in it. If the um if 2762 01:39:36,480 --> 01:39:38,149 >> they come back and say they want to do 2763 01:39:38,149 --> 01:39:38,159 » they come back and say they want to do 2764 01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:40,159 different rates, then we will 2765 01:39:40,159 --> 01:39:41,990 >> But if not, they've already given me the 2766 01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:42,000 » But if not, they've already given me the 2767 01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:49,109 >> green. 2768 01:39:49,119 --> 01:39:52,239 know about. Just