[0:01] Welcome to the August.
[0:22] Got it. All right. Welcome to the August
[0:25] 5th um
[0:27] » City council meeting uh for our close
[0:30] session. If we can have a roll call.
[0:34] » I don't have a microphone.
[0:35] » I'm present.
[0:38] » Is present. Mr. Blades doesn't have a
[0:39] microphone.
[0:40] » Present.
[0:40] » Mr. Roger.
[0:42] » President. Mr.
[0:43] » President,
[0:44] » Mr. Gord
[0:45] » Present. We have
[0:47] » No microphones. Oh, there it goes.
[0:50] » All right. Uh, do we have a motion for
[0:53] approval of the agenda?
[0:54] » So moved.
[0:55] » Motion second.
[0:56] » Motion and second.
[0:58] » Vote, please.
[1:00] » Thank you, sir.
[1:03] » Five eyes. Motion carries.
[1:04] » All right. Uh, public comment on close
[1:07] session. Any of you lovely people, would
[1:10] you like to comment?
[1:12] Do
[1:13] » You see you see lovely people out there?
[1:15] I don't I'm wondering. I don't see
[1:17] anybody here.
[1:18] » I I was about
[1:20] » Seeing none. No lovely people had no
[1:23] comment.
[1:24] » Not on the phone, right?
[1:26] » Yeah.
[1:27] » All right. Uh we will adjourn to close
[1:30] session conference with legal counsel
[1:31] existing litigation people of the state
[1:33] of California XL Rob Bont at all v. the
[1:38] city of Ridgerest Superior Court of
[1:40] California County of Kern case number
[1:42] and then some numbers and letters. We
[1:45] will adjourn.
[1:55] » Um
[1:58] now to the attorney report out of close
[2:00] session.
[2:02] » Thank you honorable mayor council
[2:03] members. One item was discussed in close
[2:05] session. That's existing litigation as
[2:07] depicted on the agenda. No reportable
[2:09] actions were taken by the council. Thank
[2:11] you.
[2:12] » Thank you. Uh we will adjourn to the 550
[2:15] special open session agenda.
[2:18] If we can have a roll call.
[2:21] » Mayor Endicott.
[2:22] » I am present.
[2:23] » Mr. Blades
[2:24] » Here.
[2:24] » Mr. Roger
[2:25] » Present.
[2:26] » Mr. Haymon
[2:27] » Present.
[2:27] » Mr. Gorman
[2:28] » Present.
[2:28] » Five present. We have a quorum.
[2:30] » All right. Uh, next we have an approval
[2:32] of the agenda. So moved.
[2:35] » Second.
[2:37] Motion.
[2:38] » I think we're gonna have to do a roll
[2:39] call on that. May Mr. Andut
[2:40] » I.
[2:41] » Mr. Blades.
[2:42] » I.
[2:42] » Mr. Rogerham.
[2:43] » Hi.
[2:43] » Mr. Hayman.
[2:44] » I.
[2:45] » Mr. Gorman.
[2:46] » I.
[2:46] » Five eyes. Motion carries.
[2:48] » All right. Uh, for all those in
[2:49] attendance, if we're going to do the
[2:51] pledge of allegiance and invocation. Um
[2:53] if you can stand up for that if you're
[2:55] able and remain standing for the
[2:57] invocation after.
[3:02] » Ready begin.
[3:03] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[3:06] United States of America and to the
[3:09] republic for which it stands. One nation
[3:12] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[3:15] justice for all.
[3:19] » Please join me in prayer if you would.
[3:22] Lord, thank you for giving us this day.
[3:24] Lord, thank you for the city of
[3:26] Ridgerest where we live and cherish.
[3:28] Lord, thank you for the wonderful people
[3:30] we have serving this community. Lord, I
[3:33] pray for our country. Give your
[3:35] directions to the leaders of our country
[3:38] so that they take right decisions for
[3:41] this country. Lord, I pray for the
[3:42] troops who are in harm's way. Protect
[3:44] them from all evil. I pray for our
[3:46] police department. Lord protect them as
[3:49] they put their lives online to protect
[3:51] this community. Lord, pray for all the
[3:54] people who gathered here today. Lord,
[3:56] pray for the city council and the city
[3:58] staff. Lord, thank you for the
[4:00] opportunity you have given to us to
[4:03] discuss the matters. Lord, give your
[4:04] wisdom and your direction. Lord,
[4:07] whatever we do, let it be beneficial to
[4:09] this community. I ask this in Jesus
[4:11] precious name. Amen.
[4:13] » Amen.
[4:14] » Amen.
[4:17] All right, we'll move on to item number
[4:19] one. Uh discussion and action item.
[4:22] Resolution of the city council of the
[4:23] city of Ridgerest adopting the 2023
[4:26] through 2031 draft general plan housing
[4:29] element in the fair housing analysis and
[4:30] authorizing staff to submit the same to
[4:33] the California Department of Housing and
[4:34] Community Development for certification.
[4:39] » Go ahead, Heather.
[4:41] » Good evening, mayor, members of council.
[4:43] Um so tonight I have before you the
[4:46] housing element. This is the fifth
[4:49] draft. Um we have received notification
[4:52] from HCD
[4:54] that the draft meets the statutory
[4:57] requirements. Um we also
[5:01] put this for a 7-day public review
[5:03] period prior to submitting to HCD. So it
[5:06] is before you tonight ready to be
[5:09] adopted. Um,
[5:12] some of the main changes since you first
[5:15] saw the document in September of 2023,
[5:19] um, include changes to the site
[5:21] inventory. Um, all of the sites under
[5:24] one acre are no longer included in their
[5:26] site inventory.
[5:28] Um, and there are various other
[5:30] programs, including updates to our
[5:33] zoning ordinance, um, in regards to
[5:36] housing, um, that are all in this new
[5:40] document, including things for emergency
[5:43] shelters, farm workers housing, um,
[5:46] large sites,
[5:49] inclusionary housing, um, and several
[5:53] other various programs that we will be
[5:55] implementing. um with the adoption of
[5:57] this. So tonight, all we're asking is
[6:00] that you um adopt this and then we will
[6:04] send it back to HCD for final
[6:06] certification.
[6:08] » All right. Any members of the council
[6:10] have any comment or questions?
[6:13] » And I'll just quick comment. Heather,
[6:14] thank you for working so hard on this. I
[6:16] know that you have worked for a very
[6:17] long time working trying to get this
[6:19] through and all the hoops you've had to
[6:20] jump through with the state. Thank you.
[6:24] » Thank you.
[6:25] Same here. Thank you, Heather, and and
[6:27] council and everyone that's been
[6:28] involved in getting this uh to the point
[6:30] where it is today. And hopefully we get
[6:32] it in their hand in the past and we'll
[6:34] be pass this. So, thank you very much.
[6:39] » Well, now it just sounds empty if I also
[6:41] add on, but thank you.
[6:43] » It's all good. I just add tone and
[6:47] delivery.
[6:47] » That is true. Okay.
[6:49] » Uh I actually want to thank you more
[6:51] than the rest of them because I care
[6:52] more. Um, but sincerely thank you. Um, I
[6:57] I know I've only been here for two years
[6:59] and this started well before me, but it
[7:02] seems to be a headache and I'm sure
[7:04] dealing with the state of California
[7:06] cannot be easy.
[7:09] Any other council members?
[7:12] No.
[7:13] No one else wants to thank Heather.
[7:16] » Thank you, Heather.
[7:17] » There we go. All right.
[7:18] » Thank you, Heather.
[7:19] » There we go. All right. Uh, any members
[7:21] of the public uh, wish to comment or
[7:23] question?
[7:24] » Thank you, Heather.
[7:25] » There we go. There we go.
[7:31] » All right. Uh, seeing no other comments
[7:33] or questions. Um,
[7:36] do we have a motion?
[7:37] » Motion, please.
[7:38] » Motion to approve.
[7:41] » Do we have a second?
[7:42] » Second. There we go. Motion and second.
[7:44] Please vote.
[7:46] » Sorry, I stole your I stole your
[7:47] thunder.
[7:48] » Second, sir. No problem at all. Five
[7:50] eyes. Motion carries. Thank you all.
[7:52] » Thank you.
[7:55] » All right.
[7:57] So, next we have four minutes till we
[7:59] adjourn or do we just go ahead and
[8:01] adjourn?
[8:02] » We can wait.
[8:03] » We should probably wait.
[8:04] » Okay, we wait.
[8:05] » Four minutes.
[8:06] » Anyone have any jokes
[8:08] that are appropriate?
[8:18] I have a joke so appropriate you could
[8:20] tell it in church.
[8:22] » There we go.
[8:24] » Which church?
[8:25] » One of 17 that currently exists. This um
[8:29] Zen master leave if you've heard it. Um
[8:33] found himself on the busy streets of New
[8:36] York City and and found himself wanting
[8:38] one of those famous New York hot dogs
[8:42] starting at Coney Island. And he
[8:44] happened to be nearby a hot dog vendor,
[8:47] a Neanderthal looking fellow who dragged
[8:49] his knuckles, was wearing a dirty
[8:51] t-shirt and a cigar in his mouth, a New
[8:54] York attitude, and a hot dog machine. Oh
[8:57] my goodness, this is great. The Zen
[8:59] master, saffron robe, shaven head, great
[9:03] serenity, floated up to the hot dog
[9:04] vendor and asked, "Make me one with
[9:08] everything.
[9:11] I know you're out there. He can hear
[9:13] crickets. Good thing it's a two-stage
[9:16] joke. The Zen master gave the hot dog
[9:18] vendor a $20 bill and stood nearby the
[9:21] machine, eating it, however nervously.
[9:24] And finally, the Zen master's equinimity
[9:26] snapped. And he reapproached the hot dog
[9:29] vendor, pointing at his halfeaten hot
[9:31] dog and asked, "Excuse me, but don't I
[9:34] get any change with this?"
[9:37] The hot dog vendor smiled as some of you
[9:40] are smiling now and said, "Change comes
[9:44] only from within."
[9:50] I missed the crickets.
[10:15] Same joke.
[10:27] » I used to watch the
[10:44] So, we actually have my group on
[10:53] this moment right here.
[11:02] actually it's a good good
[11:09] way
[11:18] to just keep going.
[11:22] So now
[11:27] will eventually ask the question
[11:45] » Or it'll just be silence
[11:48] and that's okay.
[12:04] It wasn't just crickets.
[12:12] » All right.
[12:14] Welcome to the Wednesday, August 5th,
[12:17] 2026 Ridgerest City Council meeting.
[12:21] Another roll call. No, let's just skip
[12:23] right by that.
[12:24] » All right.
[12:25] » Can we have an approval of the agenda?
[12:27] » So moved.
[12:28] » Second.
[12:29] » Motion and second.
[12:32] » I must not have made a slide. Mayor
[12:34] Indicott
[12:34] » I.
[12:35] » Mr. Blades.
[12:36] » I.
[12:36] » Mr. Roger.
[12:37] » I.
[12:38] » Mr. Haymon.
[12:39] » I.
[12:40] » Mr. Gorman.
[12:40] » I.
[12:41] » Five eyes. Motion carries.
[12:43] » All right. Uh, next we will do council
[12:45] presentations.
[12:47] Y.
[12:50] Thank you.
[13:05] I guess I'm taking Rick's job on
[13:08] » Solomon. you do the next joke. Okay.
[13:20] » All right.
[13:22] » Nope. Nope. Nope. So I So as as everyone
[13:26] can see the first presentation is city
[13:28] clerk week proclamation. I have to note
[13:31] were you asked to write up this for
[13:34] yourself?
[13:35] » No. Actually there's a funny story to
[13:36] that.
[13:37] » Do you want to tell it?
[13:38] » Sure.
[13:40] So all of these proclamations that are
[13:42] done, I write them, I prepare them, I
[13:45] give them to the council. So when city
[13:47] clerk week came along, I did not
[13:51] recognize myself because I thought it
[13:52] was silly to ask them to recognize me.
[13:55] So Travis so graciously made up our own
[13:58] little city clerk week, wrote the
[14:00] proclamation himself, prepared it
[14:02] himself so that they could recognize me.
[14:04] So that's how this came about.
[14:09] So, I did not write this.
[14:12] » She proof that
[14:13] » Knowing knowing that
[14:14] » I did not even do that. I didn't look at
[14:16] it. I put the agenda and just kind of
[14:18] » Knowing that Travis did this, I'm
[14:20] honestly surprised it's not in comic
[14:22] sands. So,
[14:28] » All right. So, uh, proclamation of the
[14:31] city of Ridgerest, California, the
[14:33] 57th77th annual professional municipal
[14:36] clerk's week, August 3rd through the
[14:38] 9th, 2026.
[14:41] Could he have made it smaller?
[14:45] » Whereas the office of the professional
[14:47] mun municipal clerk, a timehonored and
[14:50] vital part of local government, exists
[14:52] throughout the world. And whereas the
[14:54] office of the professional municipal
[14:55] clerk is the oldest among public
[14:57] servants. And whereas the office of the
[14:59] professional municipal clerk provides
[15:02] the professional link between the
[15:03] citizens, the local governing bodies and
[15:05] agencies of government at other levels.
[15:07] And whereas professional municipal
[15:10] clerks have pledged to be ever mindful
[15:12] of their neutrality and impartiality,
[15:14] render rendering equal service to all.
[15:17] Whereas the professional municipal clerk
[15:20] serves as the information center on
[15:22] functions of local government and
[15:23] community.
[15:25] Whereas the professional municipal
[15:27] clerk, if we could have just done PMC,
[15:30] that would have been fantastic,
[15:32] continually strives to improve the
[15:33] administration of the affairs of the
[15:35] office of the professional municipal
[15:37] clerk through participation in education
[15:39] programs, seminars, workshops, and the
[15:41] annual meetings of their state,
[15:42] provincial, county, and international
[15:45] professional organizations. Whereas it
[15:47] is most appropriate that we recognize
[15:49] the accomplish of the office
[15:51] accomplishments of the office of the
[15:52] professional municipal clerk. Now
[15:54] therefore, we the city council of the
[15:56] city of Ridgerest do recognize the week
[15:58] of August 3rd through August 9th, 2026
[16:01] as Ridgerest Professional Municipal
[16:03] Clerk's Week and further extend
[16:05] appreciation to our professional
[16:07] municipal clerk, Rea.
[16:11] And to all the professional mun
[16:13] municipal clerks for their vital
[16:14] services they perform and their
[16:16] exemplary dedication to the communities
[16:18] they represent. extended this fifth day
[16:20] of August 2026 myself and council I want
[16:23] to go above and beyond and it's not just
[16:26] what you do here it's all the other
[16:28] organizations that you are a part of
[16:31] that you tie yourself to that you make
[16:33] sure that they continue to strive and
[16:35] thrive and that we I don't think that we
[16:39] should just have a week to recognize
[16:41] that uh all the hard work that you do
[16:43] all of the everything that you do behind
[16:46] the scenes to make it that our jobs
[16:48] easier here. I have a a nice little um
[16:51] agenda up there that everything is
[16:53] written what I need to say so that I
[16:55] don't make errors. Uh so that's nice. Um
[16:58] but thank you for all you do. This is
[17:01] yours
[17:02] » And and people want a speech.
[17:09] » I did not prepare a speech.
[17:12] Um I I just want to say thank you for
[17:14] for doing this. This means a lot. when
[17:16] you said you were gonna do it, I kind of
[17:18] just thought, well, yeah, sure he is.
[17:20] But and he did. I really did. I thought
[17:22] that. Um, so thank you. And this means a
[17:26] lot to me and and as Travis said, I do a
[17:29] lot of other organizations in town
[17:31] because I love Ridgerest. Um, I I have a
[17:34] passion for Ridgerest and I just want to
[17:36] make it better. So I appreciate you guys
[17:38] recognizing me for that and it means a
[17:40] lot. Thank you very much.
[17:57] Yes, that's it.
[18:16] I'm trying to make sure that I don't
[18:17] have the chair.
[18:28] » Thank you.
[19:01] I have to admit, after being a professor
[19:02] for a while, uh I'm very attuned to uh
[19:06] font and so at one point I made the
[19:09] mistake of saying that I hate comic
[19:11] sands and so they made my entire agenda
[19:14] comic sands. That was the statement.
[19:16] That's the reason for the joke about
[19:18] Travis doing that. But
[19:20] » Next we have our penny pool update.
[19:31] Good afternoon. Good afternoon.
[19:38] Grab the controller voice. There you go.
[19:42] Thank you.
[19:44] All right. Good evening, mayor and
[19:46] members of the city council. Tonight, I
[19:48] would like to provide an update on the
[19:51] Sergeant John Penny Memorial Pool
[19:54] Complex Replacement Project. The project
[19:58] officially began in construction in
[19:59] January 2026.
[20:02] Continues to make significant progress.
[20:04] This partation will highlight completed
[20:07] work, current construction activities,
[20:10] project schedule, budget status, and the
[20:13] next major milestones.
[20:16] This project it's a collaborative effort
[20:19] involving several
[20:22] involving several teams working together
[20:26] toward the successful completion of the
[20:27] city's new aquatic facility. The city of
[20:30] Richest provides overall project
[20:32] management and oversight through the
[20:34] parks and wreck public works engineering
[20:37] and city administration.
[20:40] AMG and associate serves as a general
[20:42] contractor and is responsible for daily
[20:46] construction operations,
[20:48] scheduling, quality control and safety.
[20:51] Fluty and Moody together with Welden
[20:54] provide design support, construction
[20:57] management, resident engineering,
[21:00] inspection and construction
[21:01] administration.
[21:03] Weekly owner, architect, contractor
[21:06] meetings continue to keep the project
[21:08] moving efficiently and allow us to
[21:10] address issues before they affect the
[21:14] schedule.
[21:17] This slide illustrates the project
[21:20] layout and compares it with the aquatic
[21:23] center vision
[21:25] versus the site development that was
[21:29] initially started in January and
[21:31] February. As work progresses, the
[21:34] council will continue to see the project
[21:37] take shape and resemble the original
[21:39] conceptual rendering.
[21:46] During the first two months of
[21:48] construction, the contractor completed
[21:50] mobilization activities. This included
[21:52] installation of construction, fencing,
[21:54] signage, establishing survey control,
[21:57] setting up trailers, testing facilities,
[22:01] beginning rough grading, and
[22:03] coordinating early utility re
[22:06] relocations. This activity established
[22:08] the foundation for all subsequent
[22:11] construction.
[22:14] In March, the project transition into
[22:17] major earthwork. Building pads were s
[22:21] verified for both the community building
[22:24] and the restroom building. Excavation
[22:26] also began for the competition pool,
[22:29] activity pool, the perch and the pump
[22:33] pit while site grading continue
[22:37] throughout the complex.
[22:41] April focused primarily on underground
[22:43] infrastructure. Sewer improvements,
[22:46] electrical conduit installation, under
[22:48] slab utilities, concrete work for the
[22:51] search and pumps were completed. This
[22:54] work is critical because much of the
[22:57] infrastructure becomes inaccessible
[22:59] after the pools and buildings are
[23:02] constructed.
[23:04] During May, construction activities
[23:08] advanced vertically. The restroom and
[23:10] storage building slabs were completed.
[23:14] Community building footings were formed
[23:18] and placed. Excavation continue for both
[23:22] the competition and structural pools
[23:24] while the search pit reached its
[23:26] substantial completion.
[23:30] June marked another milestone. The
[23:33] community building, foundation, and slab
[23:36] were completed. Masonary construction
[23:39] began on the restroom and storage
[23:40] building while plumbing continued
[23:42] beneath the instructional pool. These
[23:45] activities allowed multiple construction
[23:47] crews to work at the same time across
[23:50] the site.
[23:54] Throughout July, construction
[23:56] accelerated significantly. Masonary
[23:59] walls for the community building
[24:01] progressed. The roof construction began
[24:04] on the restroom building and both
[24:05] activity and instructional pools
[24:08] received shot creek. Underground
[24:11] plumbing also continue with the
[24:13] competition pool. By the end of the
[24:16] July, nearly every major area of the
[24:19] project has active construction
[24:23] happening at the same time.
[24:30] Now today, active across
[24:35] there's active construction across every
[24:38] major project.
[24:41] The community building has completed its
[24:43] foundation and majoring work and has
[24:45] moved into roof framing. The restroom
[24:47] building has completed majoring and roof
[24:51] framing is now advancing rough
[24:54] mechanical, electrical, plumbing, HVAC
[24:57] and fire sprinkler installation.
[25:03] Both the activity and structural pool
[25:05] have completed shock creek and are
[25:07] advancing toward waterproofing and tile
[25:11] finishes. Construction crews continue
[25:13] supporting construction while work
[25:16] transitions into structural and
[25:18] architectural phases.
[25:22] As expected on a project of this size,
[25:25] several unforeseen utilities conflicts
[25:28] were encountered during the
[25:29] construction. Although the project team
[25:31] successfully coordinated relocations
[25:34] with the siros valley minerals water man
[25:37] while uh coordinating with all the other
[25:41] utilities such as the city wastewater
[25:44] operations waste wastewater Indian wells
[25:47] valley water district southern
[25:49] California Edison and we're continue to
[25:52] work with PG as well although these
[25:54] issues required redesign coordination
[25:58] they were addressed without
[25:59] significantly impacting overall project
[26:02] progress. Utility coordination remains
[26:04] one of our highest priorities as a
[26:06] project moves forward.
[26:10] This project remains on schedule.
[26:13] Construction beginning January 2026 and
[26:16] the contract includes 393
[26:19] working days. As of today, 138 working
[26:23] days have been used representing
[26:26] approximately 35% of the contract
[26:28] duration. There have been no approved
[26:32] time extensions, only one non-working
[26:35] day due to weather, and the current
[26:37] contract completion remains August 2027.
[26:40] Staff continues monitoring schedule
[26:43] performance throughout weekly
[26:44] construction meetings and continues to
[26:47] provide such updates.
[26:50] This project also remains financially
[26:53] healthy. The original construction
[26:55] contract is approximately 19.48 48
[26:59] million with a contingency of 292,000
[27:03] for a total authorized project budget of
[27:06] approximately 19.78 million. Now, six
[27:10] progress payments have been processed
[27:13] totaling a total of 4.35 million
[27:17] representing roughly 22% of the total
[27:21] authorized budget. All payments are
[27:24] reviewed by the city staff, construction
[27:27] management, inspectional personnel
[27:30] before approval to verify completed
[27:32] work. And at this time, expenditures are
[27:37] consistent with construction progress
[27:39] and within the approved project budget.
[27:45] In summary, the Sergeant John Penny
[27:48] Memorial Pool Complex continues to makes
[27:50] excellent progress. Major earthquake is
[27:52] complete. Utilities are substantially
[27:55] installed. Buildings are rising above
[27:58] grade. And pool construction is
[28:00] advancing rapidly. City staff, our
[28:03] consultants, and the contractor continue
[28:05] to work closely to maintain schedule,
[28:07] manage costs, and promptly resolve
[28:10] construction challenges. Over the coming
[28:13] months, the project will focus on
[28:14] building completion,
[28:17] pool finishes, utility commission, and
[28:20] the preparation for architectural and
[28:22] site improvements. So, we appreciate the
[28:24] council's continued support of this
[28:28] important community investment.
[28:32] Next, I would like to show a
[28:36] construction progress video. Sorry.
[28:52] This is the most up-to-date construction
[28:55] video that was provided by the
[28:56] contractor.
[29:01] So, as he spans over, he's going to go
[29:03] throughout the job site.
[29:11] We're currently coming in on the north
[29:16] east or north east part of the project
[29:20] overseeing the north driveway.
[29:32] And then here we're beginning to see
[29:36] the pool complex.
[29:40] We have the structural
[29:42] activity pool.
[29:46] You can see has the shot creek already
[29:48] working some utilities.
[29:55] Competition pool is in progress.
[30:01] It has advanced now. So, it's just
[30:03] waiting for Shot Creek. If you see it
[30:05] out now, since this video was taken at
[30:08] the end of July,
[30:12] it shows the rough plumbing in place.
[30:23] Now, we're expanding into the community
[30:26] building.
[30:29] We have there the search pit at the
[30:32] bottom.
[30:35] The pump pip is no longer visible,
[30:40] but we have the vertical work
[30:42] progressing.
[30:55] Just to note, the masonary vertical work
[30:57] is already completed. So if you go out
[30:58] there today, you'll see that the
[31:00] committee building is already working on
[31:02] the roof framing.
[31:23] And now he's going to begin to
[31:25] transition into the restroom and storage
[31:28] building and the overall site view of
[31:31] the project.
[31:33] So here the restroom building major is
[31:35] already completed.
[31:38] The roof framing for the most part has
[31:40] been completed
[31:43] and you can see a little bit of um the
[31:45] overall job site conditions that are
[31:49] currently on the job.
[31:56] So, this concludes the project's update
[32:01] and thank you for your time and
[32:04] continued support for the Sergeant John
[32:07] Penny Memorial Complex replacement
[32:10] project. I'll be happy to answer any
[32:14] questions the mayor or the council
[32:16] members may have.
[32:20] So, uh, fantastic. Um,
[32:24] do say think that maybe like a Beach
[32:27] Boys medley, uh, show in the pool would
[32:30] be Sorry, I the intrusive thoughts are
[32:34] winning today. Um, no, that's that's
[32:37] fantastic. The only question that I have
[32:39] um is uh you continue to use shot creek
[32:44] and I assume that is concrete that shot
[32:48] » Correct.
[32:48] » Okay.
[32:49] » Yes.
[32:49] » All right. Well, it's just that simple.
[32:51] All right.
[32:52] » Um is there um any
[32:56] » I don't know. I I assume that's standard
[32:58] of using that. Is there any um hardness
[33:02] or problems with that long term? Like
[33:05] are there any other concrete? I I assume
[33:07] if we got a harder concrete it would be
[33:09] more expensive or nitrogen filled or
[33:11] something like that that it would be
[33:13] more expensive but this is the common
[33:16] thing used
[33:16] » That is correct creek is the common
[33:18] thing for penny pools and they do all
[33:20] the testing as well so this is all being
[33:22] tested and verified okay with third
[33:24] parties as well. Okay, any other
[33:27] comments, questions?
[33:29] » Louise, I thought that was a brilliant
[33:31] presentation. I enjoyed the video a lot
[33:33] and I was a little surprised, stunned
[33:36] actually to notice that none of the
[33:38] workmen seemed to have been aware of
[33:41] that drone.
[33:44] Nobody looked up and pointed. Yeah, that
[33:47] silencer must work.
[33:50] Thank you. Okay,
[33:53] » I'll concur. Um that's a great great
[33:56] presentation. Um it's kind of humbling
[33:58] and exciting to see this project going
[34:00] on in the community. I think it's the
[34:01] biggest quality of life and one of the
[34:04] greatest things that uh we've seeing
[34:06] come to the city um in my lifetime of
[34:09] living here. But uh I was there
[34:11] yesterday and uh my wife and I went got
[34:12] a cup of coffee and parked across the
[34:14] street in the shade next to the park,
[34:16] you know, and was watching them. And
[34:17] you're exactly right. we were commenting
[34:19] on the work that was going on was in
[34:21] every aspect or facet of the of the
[34:23] construction process and it was and the
[34:25] other thing was it was about 106 degrees
[34:27] out
[34:28] » And to see these guys out there working
[34:30] um they weren't missing a beat I was I
[34:32] was impressed it's it's an impressive
[34:34] project and I think it's going to be
[34:35] wonderful for the city and u thanks to
[34:38] everybody that's uh playing a part on
[34:41] making this happen so
[34:43] thank you
[34:46] » Great presentation very
[34:48] Thank you very much. So, do you oversee
[34:51] the project or
[34:53] how what is your involvement in the
[34:55] project?
[34:55] » Yeah, I'm currently overseeing as part
[34:57] of the engineering division.
[34:59] » Right. Thank you. Good job.
[35:01] » Thank you.
[35:02] » Yeah, Luis, thank you so much. I mean,
[35:04] this this project is going to is a once
[35:06] in a-lifetime thing and I appreciate the
[35:08] care and and the work that you're
[35:10] putting into making sure that it's
[35:12] everything that the community wants it
[35:13] to be. So, I appreciate it.
[35:16] » Thank you. Appreciate it.
[35:18] » Thank you, Luis.
[35:22] » All right. Next, we will move on to
[35:24] public comment of items not on the
[35:26] agenda. Persons wishing to address the
[35:28] council on matters that are within the
[35:29] council's jurisdiction and do not
[35:31] already appear on the agenda may do so
[35:33] at this time. Council will not respond
[35:35] to any public comments, but may provide
[35:37] direction to staff to collect
[35:38] information. Pursuant to the Brown Act,
[35:40] the city council may not act on an item
[35:42] that does not appear on this agenda.
[35:44] Speakers are limited to 5 minutes. The
[35:46] public comment section of the agenda is
[35:48] limited to a total of one hour. Each
[35:49] speaker is asked to provide his or her
[35:51] name.
[35:53] Hello.
[35:53] » Hi, I'm Lorraine Horny. I have I had two
[35:56] questions. Now I have three. I didn't
[35:59] see on the plans about where's any
[36:02] shade. Number one, is there a first aid
[36:06] area? And the other I guess I have
[36:09] three. Um,
[36:11] if it's a competitive pool, is that just
[36:14] for our town or people going to come
[36:16] from out of out of the area and compete
[36:19] against Ridgerest folks? Where are the
[36:22] bleachers or you know, whatever? Anybody
[36:24] that would be watching, where are they
[36:26] going to be?
[36:28] So, I know you can't answer, but those
[36:30] are questions.
[36:32] And that was one section. Then I
[36:34] wondered, I never hear any updates on
[36:37] LFCO annexation
[36:39] stuff. It just kind of went away. We
[36:42] don't know what's going on as people
[36:43] here.
[36:44] » Uh are you talking about the um
[36:46] » The healthcare district?
[36:48] » Yeah, but I mean why are we still
[36:50] meeting as what's going on?
[36:51] » Uh so I'll answer that one. Uh we
[36:54] haven't that has not been on the agenda.
[36:56] Um, but at our next meeting next win or
[36:59] two week two Wednesdays from today, I
[37:01] will I'll bring it up and
[37:03] » And see and I'll come back with a an
[37:06] answer for you.
[37:07] » Okay. And my only other last question is
[37:10] what's the possibility of getting the
[37:12] food services for the senior center
[37:14] brought back here to Ridgerest
[37:17] because they they suck. Yeah,
[37:19] » They really do. and it's getting to be
[37:21] winter, so somebody driving over
[37:23] Walker's Pass to bring us peanut butter
[37:26] and jelly is pretty crappy.
[37:28] » So, we'll have our quality of life uh
[37:30] meeting uh the next or the first Tuesday
[37:33] of next month. Um
[37:34] » Okay.
[37:35] » And we'll try and I don't know if we'll
[37:37] have that answer, but um feel free to
[37:41] come. We have a lot of members of the
[37:43] senior center that show up and and we it
[37:47] really becomes a more informal
[37:48] conversation.
[37:49] » Good. So,
[37:50] » So for seniors and senioritas, right?
[37:53] » Yes. Yeah, absolutely, ma'am.
[37:55] » Okay.
[37:56] » Actually, for your first three, can we
[37:59] » Yes. So, the the bleachers are um an
[38:02] ancillary item. Once the full pool deck
[38:04] is constructed, the bleachers will be
[38:06] put in.
[38:06] » Good.
[38:07] » Uh bleachers are part of it there. The
[38:09] shade that's going to be provided is
[38:10] going to be with the trees. There's
[38:12] multiple trees and there's also a gazebo
[38:14] down the center in between the
[38:17] » The activity pool and the competition
[38:20] pool I believe. I can't I always get the
[38:21] two switched. So there will be plenty of
[38:24] places where there's shade. There's
[38:25] awnings that come off the buildings as
[38:27] well. So
[38:28] » Okay, good. And the first there is a
[38:30] first aid place somewhere for each.
[38:32] » Yes. So there's a designated area for
[38:33] not only the lifeguards, but there will
[38:35] be designated there will be an AED
[38:36] there. There will be first aid kits.
[38:38] There will be all that stuff will be
[38:40] provided and hung once all the buildings
[38:41] are constructed.
[38:42] » Cool. Thanks.
[38:43] » Thank you, Lorraine.
[38:54] My name is Tom Wiknik and I come to you
[38:57] tonight to hopefully maybe try and
[39:00] inspire some uh activity or some uh
[39:04] effort on the part of the city council
[39:06] in in total because there's u a couple
[39:10] months ago I brought up something about
[39:11] the 395 project and current cog has now
[39:15] got that out at 2045
[39:18] And I mentioned that when I was on Kern
[39:20] Cog back in the early 2000s, that was a
[39:22] five-year out project waiting for
[39:25] funding. Well, obviously now if it's out
[39:27] to 2045, it's more than five years.
[39:31] Anyway, uh I want to talk about how we
[39:34] use Kernogg and how I used Kernogg when
[39:37] I was there because as council people,
[39:40] you can do more for the not just Richest
[39:43] but the whole valley and Kernog is a
[39:46] means to do that. if you start thinking
[39:48] out of the box and start thinking about
[39:50] things that you might be able to do to
[39:51] help make the valley a better place.
[39:54] One, uh, as one example, and this is a
[39:57] real minor example, but when I was on
[39:59] the, um, Kernog,
[40:02] I I've traveled all over this country.
[40:04] I've been in all 50 states, and one
[40:06] thing I've noticed a lot of times along
[40:08] freeways, they would have the sign for a
[40:10] city and then they'd have a business
[40:11] loop. So people could see traveling that
[40:14] they could take this business loop and
[40:15] go through the town which is good for
[40:17] business when they when they know they
[40:19] can go in one side and come out the
[40:21] other. And I thought why don't we have
[40:23] that in Rididgerest. I'm going to run
[40:25] out of time so quick. Anyway, so I said
[40:28] why don't we have a business loop cuz we
[40:30] didn't have one. So I got the idea why
[40:34] not establish a 395 business loop
[40:37] through Ridgerest.
[40:39] And how did I do that? through Kernog.
[40:42] I brought it up. I I brought it to the
[40:45] attention of the staff over there at
[40:46] Kernog. And I'll tell you one thing, I
[40:48] remember this real clearly that when I
[40:51] tried to get things done in Kernog, I
[40:53] didn't do it by myself. I had to make
[40:55] sure I had a county supervisor that was
[40:57] helping me. Actually, two supervisors,
[40:59] the southern part of Eastern Kern, the
[41:02] uh the rep from California City, the rep
[41:05] from Tahachi. We had kind of a little
[41:07] group that we tried to support each
[41:09] other in all our projects because we
[41:10] made sure that every budget that Kernog
[41:14] had had a project going on in East Kern.
[41:18] Every budget had something going on out
[41:20] here and not just fix a sidewalk or a
[41:23] bike path. Anyway, back to the 395.
[41:26] Brought it up to staff. Calrans rep
[41:29] attended the meeting. They said, "We'll
[41:31] take it to CALR. No problem." So now we
[41:34] have business 395 through uh Ridgerest.
[41:38] No big deal, right? Okay. But it's
[41:40] something to maybe try and bring some
[41:42] traffic in. Um then there was the time
[41:45] where I said, you know, Bowman Road was
[41:48] supposed to be a freeway at one time
[41:50] from St. Louis Abyispo to Las Vegas
[41:52] right through Rididgerest. And you know
[41:54] what would have been good for that is
[41:55] for keeping all the big trucks going to
[41:58] Kermag from right going through the city
[42:00] of Rididgerest with all the chemicals. I
[42:02] got to hurry up. Anyway, at the at when
[42:05] I was on the Kernok, they found out that
[42:07] the state was abandoning the 178 freeway
[42:10] project. And with that, they were going
[42:12] to abandon the rightway all the way
[42:14] through. And I said, "Oh, no, wait a
[42:16] minute. Once you lose a rightaway, it's
[42:19] gone forever." So, I talked to the
[42:21] county and I talked with the richest
[42:24] people and I said, "Let's keep the
[42:26] rightaway through the Indian Wells
[42:28] Valley at least." And guess what? Kernog
[42:31] agreed with that and got the state of
[42:33] California to give us the rightway so we
[42:35] if we ever wanted to we could add that.
[42:38] Okay. And that was possibly a way to get
[42:41] something through. And by the way,
[42:42] Bowman Road didn't go from Downs out to
[42:45] Jack's Ranch Road. So what did I do? I
[42:48] went over to meet with John McQuiston. I
[42:50] said, "Hey, is there a way we can get
[42:51] the city's portion of uh Bowman done and
[42:54] you take it the county ticket back out
[42:56] to Dra Jack Road?" He said, "Yeah, let's
[42:59] work on that. A year and a half later,
[43:01] we the city and the county by the use of
[43:05] Kernog was doing uh Bowman Road from
[43:09] Downs out to there to Jack's Ranch Road.
[43:13] Now, back to 395.
[43:15] There was a question about why I was
[43:17] concerned about it and I brought it up
[43:19] about the safety issue. Well, guess
[43:21] what? the last time since the last time
[43:23] we talked. We now have a family in
[43:26] Ridgerest that lost a gr a granddaughter
[43:28] on 395.
[43:31] We have a family that lost a
[43:33] granddaughter on 395. And I know that
[43:36] because the grandfather came into my
[43:38] store the other day and he could hardly
[43:41] talk to me.
[43:43] He was so upset about it. Now, I'm try
[43:46] only saying this and I'm almost out of
[43:48] time, but I'm saying, why don't you guys
[43:50] get a little bit more energetic and
[43:52] trying to do things that help the whole
[43:54] valley, okay? And you know, and get
[43:58] Peter's wherever he's hiding, get him to
[44:00] come out and start doing something for
[44:03] the valley. How about adding some more
[44:05] stuff, road payment and stuff like this
[44:08] for the county? You know, the best thing
[44:10] we got out of Peters is raise the price
[44:13] we pay for the fire service. And of
[44:16] course, of all for bringing in that $400
[44:18] million pipeline. I'm sorry I'm running
[44:20] over and I have more that I could go on
[44:23] and on, but I want I was wanted to try
[44:26] encourage you as a council come up with
[44:29] some ideas.
[44:31] Ra was saying that just before that she
[44:33] like loves the richest and she wanted to
[44:35] do things to help. The microphone's off.
[44:38] Okay. But anyway, I'm trying to inspire
[44:41] you. Maybe try and do something more.
[44:44] Thank you.
[44:45] » Thank you, Tom.
[44:55] » Hello. My name is Frankie Duna and I am
[44:59] here today because um and I don't even
[45:03] know if this is
[45:06] » Oh, I don't know if this is even the
[45:08] right place to be, but um last week a
[45:11] 83year-old friend of mine, longtime
[45:14] family friend came over and he he has
[45:16] Alzheimer's and so he loses his words a
[45:19] lot and anyway he brought me um his
[45:24] water bill and he's on fixed income and
[45:28] he does live uh on the corner of
[45:32] uh Downs and Vicki. I think it used to
[45:35] be Dr. Green's house back in the day.
[45:37] Anyway, it's a two-story house. So, I
[45:40] was looking at his water bill and I see
[45:43] that um his bill was for 69,000 gallons
[45:47] of water.
[45:50] Uh mind you, it's him.
[45:53] His bill was $692.74,
[45:56] but IWVGA fees were $45.
[46:01] And he said to me, "Where's that money
[46:02] going?" I said, "I I don't know. Where
[46:05] is that money going? How is that money
[46:08] determined?
[46:09] How is it possible this man used 69,000
[46:12] gallons of water? I know he takes a bath
[46:14] every Saturday whether he needs to or
[46:15] not. He's from Georgia and he is a bath
[46:18] dude. So, um, but in this was his bill
[46:22] for July. His bill for June,
[46:26] he only used 20,000 gallons of water.
[46:31] And then his bill for May, he used
[46:34] 18,000 gallons of water, which it seems
[46:38] outrageous to me anyway, that that
[46:39] amount. But um
[46:43] so
[46:46] first, how do you go and and use 40 more
[46:49] thousand gallons in a month as one
[46:52] human? And the water company did come
[46:54] out and inspect a couple of times. They
[46:55] said there's no leak anywhere. Um and he
[46:59] went and spoke with someone at the water
[47:01] company and they kind of told him in a
[47:03] nutshell, move to a red state. This is
[47:06] what you get.
[47:08] So, um, they said the money goes to the
[47:12] government and it's the government
[47:13] that's charging him this money. And I
[47:15] told him it's not the government, it's
[47:17] IWVGA.
[47:18] Is that our government? I don't know.
[47:21] I'm I'm This is all new to me. But
[47:25] how is it determined? How are the fees
[47:27] determined each month? It seems to be a
[47:29] different amount. Is it based on our
[47:31] property value? Is it? Does anybody know
[47:35] the answer to my question or am I
[47:37] barking up the wrong tree here? I don't
[47:39] know.
[47:44] » Um
[47:46] because a friend of mine who lives Shir
[47:49] lives about three blocks away from him
[47:51] and she has a swimming pool and a
[47:52] two-story home and her bill was under
[47:55] $200.
[47:57] So, I don't
[48:00] I don't know how we can address this. I
[48:04] luckily he has savings. He has to dip
[48:06] into his savings to pay his water bill
[48:09] so that he can eat for the rest of the
[48:11] month. It's It's I don't know. My water
[48:14] bill is $61.
[48:16] And on my water bill, there's no prior
[48:20] months, no prior information. It's every
[48:23] month it's the same amount. I'm like,
[48:25] that is so odd. I was gone for a month
[48:28] in February and my bill was $61.
[48:31] Like, how does that happen? I know I
[48:33] wasn't there to use the water. Nobody
[48:36] else was. So,
[48:39] does anybody have any advice? I I would
[48:41] like to tell him. I was going to bring
[48:43] him, but he's has they call it
[48:45] sundowner, so he's worse in the evening.
[48:48] » My friend, those numbers you read to me
[48:52] seem remarkable. My first thought was he
[48:54] has a terrible leak somewhere. Uh or
[48:57] perhaps does do you happen to know if he
[49:01] cools his house with refrigeration unit
[49:04] or what we call evaporative or swamp
[49:07] cooler?
[49:07] » It's it's refrigerated air and he
[49:09] doesn't even use it until he goes to bed
[49:11] at night because
[49:13] » It's a twotory so he wants to cool down
[49:15] the top floor just
[49:17] » And yet the water district had some
[49:19] technicians out there to seek uh to find
[49:22] any leak and they weren't successful.
[49:25] » No. And if you I mean presenting like I
[49:28] said like we can go from um May, June
[49:33] and July and each month progressively. I
[49:36] mean his bill in May was
[49:39] 1702.
[49:42] His bill in I'm sorry that that was
[49:44] June. May was 15418 and then it went up
[49:48] to 1702
[49:50] and then the following month it jumped
[49:53] to $692.
[49:57] Am I out of time?
[50:01] So I don't know if anybody has any
[50:04] advice for me or um
[50:07] » Do I need to meet with the ground
[50:08] authority or how do I figure out how
[50:10] » Absolutely. So, I think if you have a
[50:12] moment um and you could grab some of
[50:14] Travis Reed's time, our city manager, he
[50:16] he could help you and point you in the
[50:18] right direction. Okay. Uh the water
[50:19] district is a wealth of information. Um
[50:22] I mean, the tech, you know, I'm not
[50:23] going to speak for them. Uh but I know
[50:24] that they have very good technicians,
[50:26] they have very good staff, so if they um
[50:28] they didn't see something, a lot of
[50:29] times they can only check in certain
[50:30] areas. Of course, that's you know, they
[50:33] can't look at everything. It does sound
[50:34] like there's a water leak and it's
[50:36] pretty bad.
[50:36] » It does. it it I mean that would be
[50:37] sensible but the water leak
[50:42] he
[50:44] it happened in within the 3month period
[50:46] is that you know I mean it just it
[50:48] jumped up 40,000 gallons of water
[50:51] » Yeah yeah I don't I don't want to like
[50:52] over analyze it's not for me to say so I
[50:55] will say that and any questions that the
[50:56] water district
[50:57] » Can't answer when it comes to breaking
[50:59] out the bill especially those GA fees
[51:01] the GA can definitely answer those
[51:03] questions for you
[51:05] » All right thank you so Yep. Thank you.
[51:16] » Good evening. My name is Brenda Litetra
[51:18] and I'm running for city council. My
[51:20] husband and I are not only passionately
[51:23] against government overreach. We are
[51:25] arguably the most qualified people in
[51:27] the room to be talking about the risks
[51:29] of flock. I need to come clean about
[51:32] something.
[51:33] 10 years ago, my husband and I worked at
[51:36] Google. We left Silicon Valley because
[51:39] we were sick of the industry and wanted
[51:40] to build a better quality of life. One
[51:43] of the projects I worked on was
[51:45] especially relevant to the topic of
[51:48] violation of privacy for profit. As I
[51:51] understand it, my project at Google was
[51:54] funded by you, the consumer, who
[51:56] searched for products using the feature
[51:59] near me in Google Shopping. You may have
[52:02] seen 3D representations
[52:05] and 3D swivels, 360 swivels
[52:09] of that product when you searched. Your
[52:12] search results were tied to Google Maps.
[52:15] And when you walked into that store to
[52:18] buy that thing you searched for, Google
[52:20] would then allegedly turn around into
[52:22] the store and say, "Hey, you owe us
[52:25] money for advertising. Here's a list of
[52:27] items or list of times people walked
[52:30] into your store using our search
[52:32] feature. If you haven't already done so,
[52:35] turn off tracking in Google Maps.
[52:39] We weren't trying to sell you anything.
[52:42] It was a front to try and create the
[52:44] largest library available so a rob a
[52:48] robot could understand that object in 3D
[52:52] and better be able to pick it up.
[52:56] Data mining has become a standard
[52:58] practice across the industry. But you
[53:01] can choose to opt out. You can choose
[53:03] not to use certain apps. And just
[53:05] because it's become boilerplate,
[53:07] that doesn't mean it's less wrong.
[53:11] We're going to push back um for changes
[53:14] to get the contract to Flock um changed
[53:18] to prevent this.
[53:20] Flock has argued that in order to
[53:22] improve their algorithm, they need live
[53:25] data from across the country. No, they
[53:27] don't. I worked for project Hadamari at
[53:31] Google. At the time, the projects of the
[53:34] project's conception, machine learning
[53:36] was unable to read a stop sign at
[53:38] different angles. We helped machines
[53:41] developed a better picture of our world
[53:43] in 3D.
[53:45] Algorithms developed for imaging depends
[53:48] on the test team's ability to create a
[53:52] set of challenge objects to repeatedly
[53:54] test against to track progress.
[53:58] People make tweaks on the software side,
[54:00] hardware folks make improvements on the
[54:02] machine side and we rerun the objects to
[54:05] see how things changed so progress can
[54:08] be tracked. In my career, I've been part
[54:11] of training three different models for
[54:14] different projects.
[54:16] That is how it's really done. If Flock
[54:20] isn't doing it this way, it may explain
[54:22] why their algorithm is so bad at reading
[54:24] license plates.
[54:26] A report from Roseville revealed that
[54:28] 70% of the alerts from Flock were false
[54:31] positives.
[54:33] The Richest PD confirmed this when we
[54:35] sat down with them last week.
[54:38] We need leaders with a backbone at all
[54:40] levels of government. My name is Brenda
[54:43] Litetra. I'm running for city council
[54:45] and you can learn more about me by going
[54:48] to brendaitra.com.
[54:50] Thank you.
[54:51] » Thank you, Brenda.
[54:55] We have a caller on the line.
[55:03] » I can't see if he's waving.
[55:04] » He's trying to get him on the phone now.
[55:06] Go ahead.
[55:06] » Okay. Go ahead, caller.
[55:10] » Yes, this is Renee West. Uh, my public
[55:14] comment is um I want to know is the city
[55:18] council going to update us on the
[55:22] application they put in to be an
[55:25] intervenor status?
[55:28] And are you going to be publishing any
[55:31] of the correspondence between
[55:35] the California Energy Commission
[55:39] that when you said you were going to
[55:42] send that letter? I I think a lot of
[55:44] people want proof that the application
[55:47] did get sent
[55:49] and if you have an update on anything
[55:52] regarding your research on the data
[55:55] center.
[55:59] Yeah, Renee, uh, the city manager is
[56:01] going to address that in his, uh,
[56:03] comments at the end, so you will get an
[56:06] update.
[56:07] » Okay. And, uh, congratulations on the
[56:10] progress of the pool. I think it's a
[56:12] wonderful thing for our community. Thank
[56:14] you.
[56:15] » Thank you, Renee,
[56:18] » Jamie.
[56:24] » Good evening, Richest. Uh last week,
[56:27] several of a group of concerned citizens
[56:30] met with the chief uh about the city's
[56:33] contract with flock safety. Uh first of
[56:35] all, I want to thank the chief for
[56:37] giving us the time to do that.
[56:40] It was a constructive meeting and I want
[56:42] to acknowledge that. Uh the chief asked
[56:44] us to draft the specific contract
[56:46] language we'd want to see. We submitted
[56:49] uh earlier this week and our
[56:51] understanding is that it has gone to
[56:53] flock. I want to tell the residents of
[56:57] Bridgerest what is in it because
[56:59] residents deserve to know what's being
[57:00] asked for on their behalf. First, what
[57:03] we have asked Flock. Two sections we
[57:05] focused on. You've all heard me talk
[57:07] about them before. Uh section 4.3
[57:09] governs what Flock can do with the data
[57:11] from our cameras. Right now, it gives
[57:12] them a permanent license. One that uh
[57:15] outlives the contract. We ask for four
[57:17] things. that the license end when the
[57:19] contract ends with the data destroyed
[57:22] and destruction certified in writing.
[57:24] That our data not be used to train their
[57:26] artificial intelligence systems. Uh the
[57:29] uh the contract currently allows that by
[57:31] name. That our data not be used to build
[57:34] or improve products. The city doesn't
[57:36] buy. The contract says other flock
[57:38] offerings and that phrase has no limits
[57:40] in it. And a small change that matters.
[57:42] The contract says flock will not sell
[57:44] our data. We asked that it say flock
[57:46] will not sell, distribute, license or
[57:48] transfer it. A company can give that
[57:50] data away without ever selling it. We
[57:52] also ask them to document how they
[57:55] anonymize data, what they actually strip
[57:56] out and how they test it and to have
[57:59] that verified independently. Right now
[58:01] we are taking their word for it.
[58:04] Next up, section 5.3 uh governs who gets
[58:07] to see our footage. Today, Flock can
[58:09] disclose it based on their own good
[58:11] faith belief that doing so is reasonably
[58:13] necessary. That's a standard that
[58:15] companies apply to themselves. We ask
[58:17] for four things. That good faith belief
[58:20] be replaced with a real standard. The
[58:22] closure only under a warrant, subpoena,
[58:24] or court order, or to prevent someone's
[58:26] death or serious injury documented at
[58:29] the time and limited to the minimum
[58:31] needed. that phrase third parties be
[58:34] struck entirely and that everyone who
[58:36] can receive our data be named and
[58:37] limited. That the city can be told
[58:39] within 72 hours of any disclosure who
[58:41] received it, what they received and why.
[58:44] And that the law and that where the law
[58:46] allows the city be told before flock
[58:48] responds to a legal demand so the city
[58:50] has a chance to object. We also asked
[58:52] for a clear prohibition on our data
[58:54] reaching any federal agencies or
[58:55] agencies outside California. That's not
[58:58] a new idea. California law already
[59:01] restricts it and the department's own
[59:02] policy does as well. Second, what we are
[59:06] asking of the city that no material
[59:08] change to the contract, no change of the
[59:10] system settings affecting retention,
[59:11] sharing or logging take effect without
[59:13] the council approving it at a public
[59:15] meeting
[59:17] and that this contract not renew
[59:19] automatically. Renewal should be a vote
[59:20] you take publicly as a separate agenda
[59:22] item from the full bud budget. Third,
[59:24] what we ask the chief other than
[59:26] submitting the requested amendments.
[59:27] Searches run against Rididgerest cameras
[59:29] by outside agencies don't appear
[59:31] anywhere on the public can see uh the
[59:33] police can uh RPD can see that. We ask
[59:36] that they be published quarterly and if
[59:37] that flock won't p publish them in their
[59:39] transparency portal that the department
[59:42] publish them on the city website
[59:44] instead. That's within the department's
[59:46] authority and requires no one's
[59:48] permission. We also asked uh for the
[59:50] list of every outside vendor and agency
[59:52] with access to our data and that audit
[59:53] information may not be reduced or
[59:55] removed without the city's approval.
[59:58] We didn't send a take it or leave it
[1:00:00] list either for the provisions most
[1:00:02] likely to draw resistance. We included
[1:00:03] alternative language that gets to the
[1:00:05] same place with less imposition on the
[1:00:07] vendor. We'd rather this end in an
[1:00:09] agreement than a standoff.
[1:00:12] To be clear about what we're saying,
[1:00:14] we're not accusing anyone of acting
[1:00:16] improperly. We're saying the contract
[1:00:18] permits things that the city has no way
[1:00:20] to see and the city can't verify what it
[1:00:22] can observe. I'd also note in February a
[1:00:25] federal appeals court dismissed every
[1:00:27] claim brought by man who was wrongly
[1:00:28] flagged by the system and pulled over.
[1:00:30] The court's reasoning was that Flock's
[1:00:32] obligation runs to its customer, the
[1:00:34] police department, in this case the RPD,
[1:00:36] and not to the public. If that's the
[1:00:38] law, this contract is the only place
[1:00:40] protections for residents can come from.
[1:00:42] There is no other mechanism. So here's
[1:00:44] what I'm asking tonight. that this
[1:00:46] council direct staff to place flock
[1:00:48] contract on a future agenda as a
[1:00:50] discussion item agenda item with the
[1:00:53] proposed amendment language that we have
[1:00:56] submitted before you so it can be
[1:00:57] presented debated in public and that the
[1:00:59] language itself be included in the
[1:01:02] public agenda packet. We're not asking
[1:01:04] uh anything we're unwilling we're
[1:01:07] unwilling to say out loud. Residents
[1:01:09] should be able to read exactly what was
[1:01:10] requested and judge it for themselves.
[1:01:12] We've done the drafting. All we're
[1:01:14] asking is that it come before you out in
[1:01:16] the open. Thank you.
[1:01:18] » Thank you, Jamie.
[1:01:25] » Um, we have a member or someone caller.
[1:01:28] There we go. That's the word.
[1:01:39] » Go ahead, caller.
[1:01:40] » Okay. Thank you very much. Uh, good
[1:01:42] evening everyone. This is Kathy Brown
[1:01:44] calling in. Uh I just want to say uh
[1:01:48] with respect to block as we know it is
[1:01:49] surveillance but our surveillance in the
[1:01:52] society continues to um escalate. Uh you
[1:01:55] guys probably all heard about
[1:01:57] surveillance pricing when you go
[1:01:59] shopping. Your data is being used just
[1:02:01] against you to find out I'm going to
[1:02:02] charge Joe $5 and Jane too. Right now in
[1:02:06] California State Assembly, uh Chris Ward
[1:02:08] is passing a bill to eradicate that
[1:02:10] insanity. I just wanted everyone to know
[1:02:13] about that. Okay. I want to say this
[1:02:15] regarding the data center. Kudos to
[1:02:18] Richest City Council, to the mayor and
[1:02:21] all the attorneys involved and Travis
[1:02:22] Reid. I read your seven-page letter,
[1:02:25] your intervenor letter that you sent to
[1:02:27] the state, I believe on July 20th, and I
[1:02:29] want to say something, gentlemen. You
[1:02:31] described in great detail all of the
[1:02:33] concerns that we had. Uh you did an
[1:02:35] excellent job. As far as I'm concerned,
[1:02:37] I found this to be extremely positive
[1:02:39] letter and presentation and I just
[1:02:42] wanted everyone to know I hope they all
[1:02:44] read it because it was really well real
[1:02:46] well real well real well real well real
[1:02:46] well real well real well real well real
[1:02:46] well real well real uh written and uh
[1:02:48] proposed and I hope the state takes it
[1:02:50] seriously. So thank you very much
[1:02:52] tonight and have a good one. Thank you.
[1:02:53] » Thank you Kathy Mike.
[1:03:01] » Good evening everyone. I'll identify
[1:03:04] myself tonight. Mike Neil and I'm
[1:03:07] standing up here as a veteran of city
[1:03:09] council meetings. Uh I've been doing
[1:03:11] this way too long. I sometimes wonder if
[1:03:13] I had what they call insanity, which is
[1:03:15] repeating the same mistake over and over
[1:03:17] thinking you're going to get some
[1:03:18] results. But here I am nonetheless. And
[1:03:21] I'm encouraged, very encouraged to see
[1:03:23] that we have a record year, I believe,
[1:03:26] this year in the city of Risk Race as
[1:03:28] far as candidates running for the city
[1:03:31] council and candidates running for the
[1:03:34] water district. Uh, I would say the
[1:03:37] water district is actually the more
[1:03:39] important of the two because your water
[1:03:42] district board has fought for you, not
[1:03:46] the uh machine in your favor to try to
[1:03:50] keep the massively expensive pipeline
[1:03:53] out of this valley.
[1:03:55] and they have been resisted
[1:03:58] with uh a lot of a lot of effort
[1:04:01] obviously a lot of use of the
[1:04:04] groundwater authorities lawyers to come
[1:04:06] up with statements trying to demean and
[1:04:09] slander the water district
[1:04:11] and there's a lot I could go in on that
[1:04:13] but I think most of you know that story
[1:04:16] all I can say is uh as to Scott Haymon
[1:04:19] running for water district that that is
[1:04:21] a self-contradictory
[1:04:24] thing he is against what the water
[1:04:26] district leaders have been for for the
[1:04:30] last eight years and we need them to
[1:04:33] continue on the road they're they're
[1:04:35] going down they put us on in this city
[1:04:37] and that is to prevent that debacle and
[1:04:40] get a sound solution.
[1:04:42] It also encourages me greatly to see
[1:04:45] these pe that a lot of people now are
[1:04:47] coming to the meetings mainly because of
[1:04:49] their interest in those two uh subjects.
[1:04:53] They don't like being surveiled.
[1:04:56] And I would say improving the flock
[1:04:58] contract is a small step, but what it
[1:05:01] really needs to be done is to take them
[1:05:03] down, get them out of here. I never
[1:05:06] signed up to be put under a surveillance
[1:05:08] state and I will never accept it and I
[1:05:11] will always speak out against it anytime
[1:05:14] the subject comes up. So find out who
[1:05:17] these new city council candidates are
[1:05:20] and ask them, are you in favor of taking
[1:05:22] down the flock cameras around town.
[1:05:24] That'll tell you a whole lot about the
[1:05:26] possible candidates position on fourth
[1:05:29] amendment rights under the Constitution.
[1:05:32] If they're for it and they want to
[1:05:34] justify it, then I guess they just don't
[1:05:36] simply understand what those rights are
[1:05:38] all about. The city has allowed it.
[1:05:41] They're continuing on. They're not
[1:05:42] responding to the objections as far as I
[1:05:44] can see. Uh but continued pushing
[1:05:48] sometimes gets you action. However, you
[1:05:50] can change the nature of the city
[1:05:52] council by voting for people who believe
[1:05:54] in freedom and not just continuing on
[1:05:57] this the way the city has gone on
[1:05:58] forever and a day. Thank you.
[1:06:02] » Thank you, Mike.
[1:06:06] Any other members of the public wish to
[1:06:08] comment?
[1:06:12] Seeing none,
[1:06:15] I think he's taking a phone call and not
[1:06:17] wanting to comment. Okay. All right. Um,
[1:06:20] we will move on to council announcements
[1:06:22] and direction.
[1:06:24] Um,
[1:06:26] I'm going to take the lead at first and
[1:06:27] then I'm sure other people have it. Um,
[1:06:30] I just want to give a large kudos to
[1:06:33] RPD. Um, I don't know if you guys saw
[1:06:36] the the thing that happened on Appaloosa
[1:06:40] Street last week, uh, Thursday. It was a
[1:06:43] standoff. It lasted
[1:06:46] eight hoursish.
[1:06:48] Um, and I was lucky, uh, along with uh,
[1:06:53] city manager, the other Travis, or the
[1:06:55] real Travis. I'm the other Travis. Um,
[1:06:58] we got to go and, uh, be with them at
[1:07:01] the, um, command center, I guess. Uh, I
[1:07:04] also want to highlight, uh, Riley, um,
[1:07:07] our IT guy. Uh, he's our drone operator.
[1:07:11] Um, and just a fantastic job done by,
[1:07:15] you know, all members of our, um, RPD,
[1:07:19] of our SWAT team. Um, it had a good
[1:07:23] result. Um, the individual was not
[1:07:25] harmed. Uh the individual did not harm
[1:07:27] anyone else. Um but I also uh want to
[1:07:32] highlight uh Officer Moroni. Um he is
[1:07:36] our negotiator. Uh and sitting standing
[1:07:39] there watching him work, watching him
[1:07:42] take the the abuses on the phone and
[1:07:45] still try and come back with um you
[1:07:49] know, respectful um dialogue. um with
[1:07:52] the Kern County mental health
[1:07:53] individuals were there. Um all the
[1:07:56] officers involved um big shout out to
[1:08:00] Officer Groves. Um man is an animal. Um
[1:08:05] uh went into the building after the gas
[1:08:07] had been in. No mask, no problem. Um but
[1:08:11] I was very proud of our RPD. Um the work
[1:08:15] that they have put in, the training that
[1:08:17] they've put in to get the good result.
[1:08:20] Um, I was able to thank them. I also
[1:08:23] want to thank the Cal City uh police
[1:08:25] department officers who came and helped
[1:08:28] um one of the gentlemen I I gave back
[1:08:31] ride back here uh so he could get in his
[1:08:33] car and assume his shift at at Cal City.
[1:08:37] Um a lot of hard work went into that. A
[1:08:40] lot of training went into that to make
[1:08:41] sure that we had a good result. Um and
[1:08:44] Chief, thank you for your leadership on
[1:08:46] that one. Um, you know, it's really easy
[1:08:50] after eight or heck, after a couple
[1:08:53] hours of not getting the result you want
[1:08:55] to just bust in and use your force
[1:09:00] instead of reason. Um, and so I loved
[1:09:03] the restraint that they showed, um,
[1:09:05] their ability to get him out and
[1:09:07] unharmed. Um, and to get his dogs out
[1:09:10] and unharmed. Um, it just, you know, if
[1:09:15] you see a police officer, give them a
[1:09:17] thank you because they were probably
[1:09:18] involved that night. Uh, if you see a
[1:09:21] police officer's spouse, give them a
[1:09:24] thank you because that was a long time
[1:09:26] uh with no communication and worrying
[1:09:29] about them coming home. Um, we often
[1:09:32] don't think of that. Uh, we're in a
[1:09:34] negative society where we want to focus
[1:09:36] on the negative. But um I was recently
[1:09:39] reminded that we need to start thinking
[1:09:41] about some of the positives that we do
[1:09:43] and highlighting those. So RPD, uh
[1:09:46] Officer Moroni, Chief, uh anyone else
[1:09:49] involved that night, thank you guys. Uh
[1:09:51] I really appreciate it.
[1:09:54] » Yeah, absolutely. Thank you guys.
[1:10:02] » Yes, I think in that vein, thank you,
[1:10:03] Mr. Mayor. Uh they they probably
[1:10:05] correctly turned my mic down. I I get
[1:10:07] it. I get it. Um uh so we thank you
[1:10:11] Travis foring on the letter from from
[1:10:13] Congressman Fong. I'll just share a
[1:10:14] piece of it. Uh and that is the
[1:10:16] Department of War recognizing China
[1:10:18] Lake. Um Mr. Fong writes uh NS China
[1:10:22] Lake as well as our region's defense um
[1:10:24] as well as our region's defense and
[1:10:26] space ecosystem are truly worldclass.
[1:10:29] The Department of War's recognition of
[1:10:30] China Lake as a global leader is a
[1:10:32] credit to the investments that have been
[1:10:33] made. strong local and regional support
[1:10:36] and the hard work of the talented men
[1:10:37] and women who developed and test cutting
[1:10:39] edge technology for our nation's war
[1:10:41] fighters. Uh it it was a pleasure to
[1:10:44] read uh just as the mayor just pointed
[1:10:46] out, it's it is far too easy uh in
[1:10:48] today's world to to get hung up on some
[1:10:50] of the negatives, but uh we do have a
[1:10:52] lot of people working hard for us. We
[1:10:54] have a lot of support throughout the
[1:10:55] community and um I I appreciated
[1:10:58] Congressman Fong recognizing all that
[1:11:00] goes on here. um they are why this
[1:11:03] community is here. That's that's why
[1:11:05] Rich Crest exists. So I appreciate the
[1:11:08] recognition.
[1:11:14] » Just want to thank police department for
[1:11:17] their committed service to our
[1:11:19] community. Thanks for protecting this
[1:11:21] community from bad guys. We really
[1:11:24] appreciate what you do.
[1:11:27] » I just want it noted I said it first.
[1:11:29] And so obviously I I care more.
[1:11:35] » Um that last caller uh the lady joggled
[1:11:40] my mind just now about uh it'll it'll
[1:11:43] develop a name uh and and it shocked me.
[1:11:46] I just became aware of uh AI based uh
[1:11:52] digital shelf pricing I'll call it
[1:11:54] within an institution. Um, I had no
[1:11:58] idea, but you can learn uh about it uh
[1:12:02] if you find on the internet. Senator
[1:12:05] Josh Holly, I think he's from Georgia,
[1:12:09] um gave a kickoff narrative to some
[1:12:13] subcommittee inside the Senate where um
[1:12:17] he brought up the issue, an issue I've
[1:12:19] never heard of. and and if indeed
[1:12:23] um an ed an end item that he mentioned
[1:12:28] uh that I can see going beyond this is
[1:12:31] um let's say that uh Travis Reed who
[1:12:34] makes an awful lot of money was walking
[1:12:37] down the aisles in Walmart. Let's say
[1:12:40] admiring the uh the digital pricing uh
[1:12:45] sh digital shelf pricing. It's a little
[1:12:48] goodie that says whatever it is that's
[1:12:50] above this this this little card whose
[1:12:53] digital numbers are changing. Um, that's
[1:12:57] what it costs. and he might walk up to
[1:13:00] it uh maybe to buy a quart or two of
[1:13:03] motor oil and he'd see the cost would be
[1:13:08] whatever he's willing to pay because the
[1:13:12] AI behind that price and I think Flock
[1:13:16] is probably contributing data also
[1:13:19] um knows what he can afford and if I
[1:13:23] walked up to it I'd easily get a low
[1:13:26] price and like it perhaps But prices are
[1:13:30] changing to suit the buyer and they see
[1:13:33] the buyer coming. They know all about
[1:13:35] you as you pull into the parking lot and
[1:13:37] as you walk into the store. He mentioned
[1:13:40] the big supermarket uh nationwide
[1:13:43] supermarket chain blast.
[1:13:46] Um it wasn't Albertson's, but it could
[1:13:48] have been. and
[1:13:52] the price of data that's being bought
[1:13:54] and sold to put together
[1:13:59] the logic that allows pricing to change
[1:14:02] as you walk up to it is stunning.
[1:14:06] Onethird of this large supermarket
[1:14:08] chain's total profit for the year came
[1:14:12] from selling the data all about me and
[1:14:16] you.
[1:14:18] Um, if if you wrote that down, that's
[1:14:21] Senator Josh Holly, H A W E Y, uh,
[1:14:26] giving the leadin um, introduction to,
[1:14:29] uh, a Senate subcommittee, and he spends
[1:14:32] five or six minutes describing, to my
[1:14:34] horror, uh, this dynamic pricing that's
[1:14:38] going to change, it's going to change
[1:14:40] the face of the economy in this country
[1:14:45] uh, in a breathtaking
[1:14:47] manner. there. Um, one other thing I
[1:14:50] wanted to report that was spontaneous.
[1:14:53] The other thing was as you drive through
[1:14:55] town, I noticed changes. And that
[1:14:58] building that uh I've been referring to
[1:15:00] only as um ma the old Matrix Motors
[1:15:03] building, sorry, Chip Holloway, but
[1:15:06] that's the only name I know to give that
[1:15:08] building. I don't know what it was when
[1:15:10] it was originally built, but it was
[1:15:12] knocked down over the last couple of
[1:15:14] days. And um um Travis to my right knows
[1:15:20] more about why and who owns it and
[1:15:22] what's going to happen, but it's an old
[1:15:24] building that's been there forever. And
[1:15:27] uh now it's not and it uh actually looks
[1:15:30] much better not being there because that
[1:15:34] aesthetically that was an awful looking
[1:15:36] building. Always has been. Uh that's all
[1:15:39] I have.
[1:15:41] » I think all right. We will move on to
[1:15:44] the consent calendar.
[1:15:46] All items listed on consent are
[1:15:48] considered to be routine and
[1:15:49] non-controversial by city staff. Consent
[1:15:51] items may be approved by one motion if
[1:15:52] no member of the council wishes to
[1:15:54] comment or ask questions. If comment or
[1:15:56] discussion is desired, the item can be
[1:15:57] removed from the consent calendar by a
[1:15:59] member of the council and will be
[1:16:01] considered in listed sequence. There are
[1:16:02] five consent items listed on the posted
[1:16:05] agenda. Is there anyone in the public
[1:16:07] that wishes to comment on the consent
[1:16:09] items listed on the agenda?
[1:16:14] All right. Are there any items that
[1:16:16] council wishes to pull off the agenda
[1:16:18] for separate discussion?
[1:16:22] » Seeing none, do I have a motion?
[1:16:24] » So moved.
[1:16:26] » And a second.
[1:16:27] » Second.
[1:16:30] » Please vote.
[1:16:35] » Five eyes. Motion carries.
[1:16:37] » All right. We will move on to discussion
[1:16:39] and action items. Number eight,
[1:16:41] discussion and proposed action to
[1:16:43] approve a resolution designating a
[1:16:44] voting member and alternate to attend
[1:16:47] the League of California Cities annual
[1:16:48] conference and represent the city of
[1:16:50] Rididgerest.
[1:16:51] » So, we currently have uh four uh city
[1:16:55] staff and council registered to go to
[1:16:57] the conference. The two city council are
[1:17:00] uh council member Gorman and council
[1:17:02] member Blades. uh we need to designate
[1:17:06] one as our voting member and one as an
[1:17:09] alternate so that they can go into the
[1:17:11] annual business meeting and vote on the
[1:17:14] resolutions that are presented that
[1:17:16] night which at this point have not come
[1:17:17] out yet. Um so among yourself if you
[1:17:20] could please just discuss who you want
[1:17:22] to put as first and second and let me
[1:17:24] know.
[1:17:25] » Roshambo rock paper scissors.
[1:17:28] » I think I mean well well Skip has been
[1:17:30] designated the last few times and I
[1:17:31] think it's his to have if he wishes.
[1:17:33] Okay, I support that.
[1:17:35] » I'd be glad to uh continue to be the
[1:17:37] voting member. Uh Kyle, you would be the
[1:17:40] alternate.
[1:17:40] » Yes, sir.
[1:17:41] » Great. See how we did that? Uh Rea,
[1:17:44] » That's lovely.
[1:17:45] » Are there any members of the public that
[1:17:47] wish to comment?
[1:17:51] Motion to approve. Councilman Gorman
[1:17:53] being the voting member and Councilman
[1:17:56] Blades being the alternate.
[1:17:57] » Second.
[1:17:58] » Motion and second.
[1:18:00] » Please vote.
[1:18:04] Five eyes. Motion carries. Thank you,
[1:18:06] gentlemen.
[1:18:06] » I almost voted no just to see what would
[1:18:09] happen. Um,
[1:18:10] » All right. Number nine, a resolution of
[1:18:12] the Rich Crest City Council approving a
[1:18:14] professional services agreement for the
[1:18:15] evaluation of the wastewater treatment
[1:18:17] plant digtor roof.
[1:18:21] If it would have been you and I, Mr.
[1:18:22] Mayor, a bit of a different story.
[1:18:27] » Terry's not here. So,
[1:18:28] » Mr.
[1:18:30] Mr. Reed, you're up. Terry. Yes, Terry
[1:18:32] is not feeling well. Thank you, council
[1:18:34] and mayor. Uh, tonight we're bringing
[1:18:36] forward a contract with Adora, who is
[1:18:38] one of our formerly Mike Nunley. We are
[1:18:40] currently in contract with them for some
[1:18:42] items as they relate to the plant. Um,
[1:18:45] recently Sean has had numerous issues
[1:18:47] with dig lids. He has done a very very
[1:18:49] good job of trying to limp the 1940s
[1:18:53] plant along, but this one requires
[1:18:55] structural repair as we have had um lit
[1:18:59] literal mountains of poop bubbling out
[1:19:00] of the top of the digtor that he has to
[1:19:02] deal with and recirculate through the
[1:19:04] plant daily. Um so we would like to do
[1:19:06] some structural investigation and see if
[1:19:08] we can come up with a plan that is not
[1:19:11] uh absurdly expensive to try to limp the
[1:19:14] digesttors on a little longer. Um,
[1:19:16] currently only one functions correctly.
[1:19:18] That's the one we're looking at doing
[1:19:20] the lid on. The other one has a pipe
[1:19:21] that is we believe collapsed that when
[1:19:24] we have it pumped down to uh do the
[1:19:26] investigation of the lids further. We
[1:19:28] would like to eventually maybe take care
[1:19:30] of that as well. So that way we have two
[1:19:32] functioning digesttors that we can
[1:19:33] utilize. Um, with that I'm open for any
[1:19:36] questions that you guys may have.
[1:19:40] » I do have one question. So this proposal
[1:19:43] is only for them to give a
[1:19:46] recommendation, right?
[1:19:48] » It's it's a yeah, it's a recommendation
[1:19:50] and like a 30 to 40% design set of plan
[1:19:53] so we can get a rough uh cost estimate
[1:19:55] prepared to what the work would be so
[1:19:58] that way we can all discuss it and to
[1:20:00] see if we want to proceed further from
[1:20:02] that point.
[1:20:02] » Okay. Thank you.
[1:20:05] » Any other council questions, comments?
[1:20:08] Uh, no. You guys have been piecing this
[1:20:10] thing together for a while. So,
[1:20:11] appreciate the hard work.
[1:20:15] » Anything from you two?
[1:20:17] No. Any
[1:20:20] » Do you Do you have a comment question
[1:20:22] » With regard to
[1:20:24] » Yes.
[1:20:24] » No.
[1:20:25] » Okay. Okay. Any member of the public,
[1:20:29] Mr. Unnamed citizen?
[1:20:32] » Yeah. Mike Neil again. Uh here's where
[1:20:34] you can get a little value out of old
[1:20:36] guys who come to meetings forever in a
[1:20:38] day. I was here when they first uh
[1:20:40] proposed to raise the sewer fee on the
[1:20:43] citizens. They actually tripled it at
[1:20:45] that time. That was 2012.
[1:20:47] And the statements at that time were
[1:20:50] we got to replace the sewer treatment
[1:20:53] plant. It's falling apart. They needed
[1:20:55] more reserve money. So they need to
[1:20:57] raise the rates. And they're supposed to
[1:20:58] do that within like the first year or
[1:21:01] two, get enough to have reserves that
[1:21:03] they could go bond it, get the money and
[1:21:05] make the thing happen. Well, that is
[1:21:08] almost 15 years since that date. And
[1:21:12] here we are and this money we're
[1:21:14] spending on these digesttor lids just
[1:21:16] that's money down a hole. going to be
[1:21:18] thrown away basically just to patch this
[1:21:20] thing up to keep it going till
[1:21:24] forgot what was in the agenda like 2035
[1:21:27] or some some date way out when they're
[1:21:29] going to get the new wastewater plant
[1:21:31] built.
[1:21:32] It's
[1:21:35] disappointing to say the least that we
[1:21:38] couldn't have got busy with this project
[1:21:42] and already had the wastewater plant
[1:21:43] built. That could have happened, but we
[1:21:46] took forever at the BS of Ron Strand to
[1:21:49] make negotiations with the Navy about
[1:21:51] easements on to their land so they could
[1:21:53] continue getting 500 acre feet of water
[1:21:55] from us every year. And it just took
[1:21:58] forever and forever and forever. And
[1:22:00] this may sound like I'm being harsh, but
[1:22:02] I really don't understand why we're now
[1:22:06] peacemail replacing parts that are have
[1:22:08] to gonna have to be thrown away. And
[1:22:10] we're not This isn't even for replacing
[1:22:12] the parts. This is just getting getting
[1:22:15] the thoughts out on what it takes to
[1:22:17] replace the parks. Then we got to get
[1:22:19] the parts replaced, which is who knows
[1:22:21] how much more. I could ask Travis, maybe
[1:22:23] he'd have a rough idea, but this is very
[1:22:26] sad that we have let this drag out till
[1:22:28] now we're throwing good money after bad.
[1:22:32] » Thank you, Mike.
[1:22:33] » Yep.
[1:22:35] » Yeah, Travis, go ahead.
[1:22:39] » Good evening. Uh, I'm Lawrence Cassetta.
[1:22:41] I'm one of your uh candidates for city
[1:22:43] council and um I was just looking at the
[1:22:46] minutes and uh first of all Travis those
[1:22:48] are some interesting pictures just the
[1:22:50] the corrosion that are around the pipes
[1:22:52] this that and the other and I kind of
[1:22:54] get it it needs to be patched. Um I was
[1:22:57] just looking at it and one thing I was
[1:23:00] uh keying in is okay we got the waste uh
[1:23:02] water plant that's coming along and um
[1:23:06] how's that going? when is it going to be
[1:23:09] online? And uh if we had that idea and
[1:23:13] everyone had that in motion, then uh
[1:23:17] will those patches for the lids for the
[1:23:20] digesttors uh will that hold us along to
[1:23:23] that point or is there another gap? So
[1:23:26] that's all I had. Thank you very much.
[1:23:28] » Question, Lawrence. Uh Mr. Reid.
[1:23:31] » Yeah, I think I can kind of fill in some
[1:23:33] of the blanks for both Mike and
[1:23:35] yourself, Lawrence. Uh
[1:23:36] » Thank you. We've been working on the
[1:23:37] wastewater treatment plant for quite
[1:23:38] some time. We do have 100% plans. Um,
[1:23:42] with all the reconstruction after the
[1:23:44] earthquakes, it kind of put a monkey
[1:23:46] wrench into things because the Navy had
[1:23:47] such a big rebuild going on on the base
[1:23:50] that changed where we were getting power
[1:23:52] from. So, that's the last remaining
[1:23:53] item. We talk weekly with the Navy.
[1:23:56] They've been a great partner with this.
[1:23:57] It did take us a while to get the
[1:23:58] easement to work out some of that
[1:24:00] language, but as it stands, if I
[1:24:03] absolutely had to, we could go out to
[1:24:04] bid today for for the plan. My problem
[1:24:08] is is yes, Mike is correct. Since 2014,
[1:24:11] we have collected uh higher sewer fees,
[1:24:14] but everything today has gone up
[1:24:16] exponentially, and I don't want to put a
[1:24:18] giant bond on this community, nor do I
[1:24:20] think any of our council members would
[1:24:22] want to put a giant bond on this
[1:24:23] community. um limping this plan along
[1:24:26] right now. This will be really the first
[1:24:29] money that we've had to spend that's
[1:24:31] chased um this plant that we haven't
[1:24:34] been able to address inhouse other than
[1:24:36] normal wear items, pumps, things of
[1:24:38] that, grit chamber repair, um clarifier
[1:24:42] repairs for the paddles and things of
[1:24:43] that nature. So, I agree. I would this
[1:24:45] is the last thing I wanted to do but
[1:24:48] it's it's gotten to the point where the
[1:24:49] structural integrity I feel like it
[1:24:51] could if a lid falls in the digtor
[1:24:53] doesn't work now we're in violation of
[1:24:55] our state board order we have fines that
[1:24:57] could be bigger uh then than the to look
[1:25:00] at this and see if we can come up with a
[1:25:02] cost-effective solution to address it.
[1:25:05] Um so to say yes we are we are actively
[1:25:08] working on the plant. Um if we were to
[1:25:10] bid it today and start the plant
[1:25:12] wouldn't be built. It's a about a three
[1:25:14] and a half year project minimum. So the
[1:25:17] plant wouldn't be built till 2030. Our
[1:25:20] plan currently is to run that plant
[1:25:22] simultaneously with the existing
[1:25:24] wastewater treatment plant for at least
[1:25:26] 2 years. Whenever you bring a a new
[1:25:28] plant facility online, there's always
[1:25:31] bugs with SCADA systems, with operating
[1:25:34] things. And we want to make sure that
[1:25:36] when we officially switch and we retire
[1:25:38] the current board order that we can meet
[1:25:40] the full standards of the new board
[1:25:42] order from uh Department of um water and
[1:25:46] uh CS I can I think of the acronym not
[1:25:49] the not the name. So that really is the
[1:25:52] the push at this moment. We are still
[1:25:54] pushing daily on the plant. We are just
[1:25:57] trying to explore every option for
[1:25:58] funding. We're looking at multiple
[1:26:00] grants. Um we got a million dollars from
[1:26:03] Congressman Fong that we're going after
[1:26:05] doing the um grant application process
[1:26:08] right now from EPA to further aid this
[1:26:11] design. Um and we're like I said, we
[1:26:13] look daily for grants. Uh we want to
[1:26:15] apply for the state revolving fund. This
[1:26:16] will be the fourth year in a row that
[1:26:18] we've replied that we've uh constantly
[1:26:20] been looking for ways to score higher on
[1:26:22] the application so that way we can make
[1:26:24] sure that the construction of this plant
[1:26:25] is affordable for the community.
[1:26:27] » Outstanding. Thank you, Travis.
[1:26:31] » Yep, you're good. Thank you very much.
[1:26:33] » Thank you. Any other members of the
[1:26:35] public wish to comment?
[1:26:38] Seeing none, none on the calls. Do we
[1:26:40] have a motion?
[1:26:42] » Motion to approve and a second.
[1:26:46] Second
[1:26:47] » Motion and second.
[1:26:48] » Please vote.
[1:26:53] » Five eyes. Motion carries.
[1:26:55] » All right. Next, we will move on to item
[1:26:57] number 10. Authorization for temporary
[1:26:59] police officer over hire. Honestly,
[1:27:01] Chief, I want to thank you for keeping
[1:27:03] that title short and sweet. As the one
[1:27:06] who has to read it, I appreciate that.
[1:27:08] » I'll try to keep the presentation in
[1:27:10] line with that. We're at a position at
[1:27:13] the police department. Thanks for having
[1:27:14] me, uh, Mr. Mayor and Council, I
[1:27:16] appreciate the opportunity to be up here
[1:27:17] and talk about this proposal.
[1:27:21] We have some anticipated openings coming
[1:27:23] up in the police department. However, at
[1:27:24] this moment, we are fully staffed with
[1:27:26] our 29 authorized police officers. What
[1:27:28] we would like to do is have a 30th
[1:27:30] position authorized for the next 6
[1:27:32] months uh from today, allowing us to get
[1:27:34] somebody into training to be immediately
[1:27:37] able to fill what we know is uh an
[1:27:42] opening in the department.
[1:27:44] uh we have the people on staff. Uh you
[1:27:47] one of our csos will likely move up to
[1:27:49] police officer and then we have a
[1:27:50] recruiting opportunity as well. This
[1:27:53] will give us the ability to have that.
[1:27:55] The cost should be nothing because the
[1:27:59] anticipated opening is currently not
[1:28:00] drawing a salary from the city uh given
[1:28:03] the personnel circumstance. So it should
[1:28:05] be not cost prohibitive. Uh there could
[1:28:09] be a cost if there's an overlap, but it
[1:28:12] could be as little as zero. We would
[1:28:14] like the opportunity to do that mostly
[1:28:16] to fill those positions so we can
[1:28:17] continue to operate at full staffing for
[1:28:20] a greater length of time as opposed to
[1:28:22] having a gap that we have to fill
[1:28:23] because as you know to hire somebody off
[1:28:25] the street today, it'll be a year before
[1:28:27] we can actually see them performing.
[1:28:29] So with that, any questions? We'll just
[1:28:31] try to keep your questions as short as
[1:28:33] my title.
[1:28:35] » Uh no, no questions. Just a quick
[1:28:37] comment. Chief, I know you're always
[1:28:38] looking for efficiencies. I know that
[1:28:39] you pay attention to it. I've sat and
[1:28:40] talked with you about the budget, about
[1:28:42] the money you're spending. Like, we've
[1:28:44] gone over everything at length. So, I
[1:28:45] know you do your due diligence. Uh, if
[1:28:47] you weren't, then we'd be hammering you
[1:28:49] over it. But, uh, so I I appreciate your
[1:28:52] your approach.
[1:28:53] » Thank you.
[1:28:56] » I think it's wise to preempt a shortfall
[1:28:57] that, you know, is going to be coming up
[1:28:58] down the road. And so, I appreciate the
[1:29:01] the looking forward aspect of it. So,
[1:29:04] » Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate it.
[1:29:06] Councilman Gorman,
[1:29:12] » In your executive summary, you you're
[1:29:15] you're doing this right right now.
[1:29:17] » No.
[1:29:17] » No.
[1:29:17] » Nope.
[1:29:20] » We're on the higher.
[1:29:22] » But thank you.
[1:29:22] » But I'll be happy to talk with you about
[1:29:24] it any other time.
[1:29:27] » Uh Chief, I just want to say that I
[1:29:29] appreciate you more than
[1:29:32] » Kyle. Yeah, I just
[1:29:34] » Fair enough.
[1:29:35] » Even Even though it was the third one to
[1:29:36] talk.
[1:29:37] » That might be true. Actually,
[1:29:38] » I think he's got short timers.
[1:29:40] » All right. Uh, any member of the public
[1:29:42] wish to comment?
[1:29:46] » Seeing none, uh, do I have a motion?
[1:29:50] » Motion to approve.
[1:29:51] » Second.
[1:29:52] » Motion and second.
[1:29:54] » Please vote.
[1:29:57] » Okay,
[1:29:59] » Travis.
[1:30:01] He's just trying to show his
[1:30:02] appreciation.
[1:30:04] » I missed it. I heard it beep.
[1:30:07] » I should have just hit no. Okay.
[1:30:10] » Uh next we'll move on to committee
[1:30:12] reports. Uh economic development
[1:30:14] committee that their report from August
[1:30:16] 3rd. Yes, we just met. Uh we had a lot
[1:30:20] of the same discussion items. Uh and
[1:30:22] part of that was
[1:30:24] uh Balsam Street. Some of those flags
[1:30:26] are are finally going to come down.
[1:30:27] They're they're ripped and torn. And so
[1:30:29] those are all all going to be removed uh
[1:30:31] in the near future. Uh the next food
[1:30:34] truck Friday is going to be cancelled.
[1:30:35] It's too hot
[1:30:37] and and probably looking in the future
[1:30:39] and not having a lot of those food truck
[1:30:41] Fridays during the summer months. It's
[1:30:42] just uh
[1:30:44] it's not fruitful for anybody.
[1:30:47] » Yeah.
[1:30:48] » So uh but but but the next city nights
[1:30:50] is on the 22nd of August and it it
[1:30:53] should be a good time. There'll be a
[1:30:55] phone party. Bridge Gamings I think is
[1:30:57] going to have a tournament as uh and of
[1:30:59] course a lot of the same food trucks and
[1:31:00] whatnot.
[1:31:02] Um we also discussed at the economic and
[1:31:05] and you will probably hear the same
[1:31:06] thing at the infrastructure committee.
[1:31:08] Uh Mr. Rulan brought up a lot of good
[1:31:11] hey part of the economic development
[1:31:12] could also make make sure we're paying
[1:31:14] attention to keeping things picked up
[1:31:16] and cleaned and stuff like that. So uh
[1:31:19] it was a lot of good discussion and
[1:31:21] those will be ongoing.
[1:31:26] Councilman Roger Adam, anything to add?
[1:31:29] » I think um
[1:31:32] Jennifer mentioned that there would be
[1:31:34] an astronaut to Victor.
[1:31:37] » Yes, Ike.
[1:31:37] » On August 26th,
[1:31:39] » Correct, sir.
[1:31:40] » So, she encouraged people to go and
[1:31:43] » I didn't have complete notes on that.
[1:31:44] So, I know that uh yes, Ike will be in
[1:31:48] town. I know that he has a tight
[1:31:50] schedule. There's a lot of talk of him
[1:31:51] being presenting in one place,
[1:31:53] presenting in the other, but I do not
[1:31:54] have a full uh full information on what
[1:31:58] his schedule's going to be. So, I think
[1:31:59] more to follow on that. And I know that
[1:32:01] the RACVB is looking into trying to do
[1:32:04] something. Uh there's going to be some
[1:32:06] amount of presentation on the base, but
[1:32:08] I don't want to speak out of turn.
[1:32:11] All right. Um the finance committee
[1:32:13] their next meeting will be September 8th
[1:32:16] um
[1:32:18] at 5:30 city hall conference room B on
[1:32:20] the first floor infrastructure meeting
[1:32:23] uh report from July 23rd. Yeah, you bet.
[1:32:26] Uh so there was there was some we talked
[1:32:30] about uh so the soccer field parking lot
[1:32:33] just maybe getting some grindings.
[1:32:36] Um
[1:32:38] yeah and I think that we can probably
[1:32:40] make that happen. I think was the
[1:32:41] consensus was at some point get some
[1:32:44] grindings over there. Uh so the PG&
[1:32:47] steel covers on Baton that was another
[1:32:50] uh point of conversation and we're sort
[1:32:51] of at the whim of PG&E but I know that
[1:32:54] our engineers are tracking to make sure
[1:32:55] that the road is uh is fixed
[1:32:57] appropriately afterwards, but they're
[1:32:59] over there replacing old gas lines.
[1:33:02] Um let's see.
[1:33:06] I think that was that was it. Solomon,
[1:33:08] do you have anything?
[1:33:09] » I was there. you were there.
[1:33:10] » Yeah.
[1:33:11] » Sorry. It's
[1:33:13] » Uh No, I want to I want to highlight Mr.
[1:33:17] Ruland for bringing his own agenda to
[1:33:20] talk to us about and it brought up a lot
[1:33:22] of really good points um that we will
[1:33:26] continue to work on.
[1:33:31] » Felspar.
[1:33:32] » Oh, yeah. Drove on Felspar. Uh is
[1:33:34] there's there's a bumpy spot.
[1:33:37] Um Mr. ruling was dissatisfied with the
[1:33:41] the road.
[1:33:43] » Uh let's see.
[1:33:46] Yeah, I think that's I think that's it.
[1:33:50] All right. Um next we have parks and
[1:33:52] wreck. Uh our next meeting will be
[1:33:55] September 1st um at 5:30 here in city
[1:33:58] hall council chambers. But I do want to
[1:34:00] mention um that
[1:34:04] we are doing our movie in the theater
[1:34:07] instead of movie in the park uh August
[1:34:09] 14th. Um
[1:34:12] and if you or your family would like to
[1:34:14] go, please stop by Parks and Wreck to
[1:34:16] pick up your tickets. Limited seats
[1:34:17] available and five tickets per person.
[1:34:20] Tickets must be picked up before end of
[1:34:22] business on August 12th. The movie will
[1:34:24] be the Minecraft movie. Um, this was one
[1:34:28] of the things that I was really
[1:34:29] passionate about and I'm happy to see it
[1:34:31] go. Uh, I love the theater. I love going
[1:34:34] to the movies. There's a there's a magic
[1:34:36] to it. Um, you smell the popcorn. You
[1:34:39] It's a communal event. Um, you get to
[1:34:42] hear other people laughing at things
[1:34:43] that you find funny. Uh, you also get to
[1:34:45] hear people laughing at things you don't
[1:34:47] find funny and then you question
[1:34:48] yourself whether or not that really was
[1:34:49] funny. Um, but the movies had always
[1:34:53] been a magical thing to me and so giving
[1:34:55] um the public the opportunity to go for
[1:34:58] individuals that might not regularly go
[1:35:00] to the theater. Um, and so instead of
[1:35:02] being out in the heat, we're going to do
[1:35:04] it at the theater. Um, and supporting
[1:35:06] Rich Crest Cinemas. So,
[1:35:09] all right. Um,
[1:35:12] next we will move on to other
[1:35:14] committees, boards or commissions.
[1:35:16] Anyone have
[1:35:20] » He typically looks at me when he says
[1:35:22] that.
[1:35:22] » I do only because I enjoy
[1:35:24] » Kurt Cog uh what I typically sit in on
[1:35:28] through Zoom in conference room B was
[1:35:31] dark this month. Um,
[1:35:34] and speaking uh all the way over to
[1:35:37] Tommy Wikenick, the
[1:35:40] um
[1:35:42] the prospect of having US 395 highway
[1:35:47] improved as it goes diagonally through
[1:35:49] the Indian Wells Valley. Um, I'm sorry
[1:35:53] it's going to be so far into the future,
[1:35:56] but we lost um
[1:35:59] most of a local family also in a very
[1:36:02] tragic accident on US 395 some years
[1:36:07] back. I think maybe a dozen years ago.
[1:36:10] And um I may have I didn't think I had
[1:36:14] the foresight to check Kernog at that
[1:36:17] time. Um, I think indirectly I did try
[1:36:20] to contact supervisor of um
[1:36:24] the supervisor of the county that most
[1:36:27] of South 395 is in. Uh, quick, what
[1:36:31] county is that?
[1:36:35] » Is it San Bernardino?
[1:36:37] » Sano.
[1:36:38] » San Bernardino County.
[1:36:40] They said it loud enough that my hearing
[1:36:42] aids actually picked it up. Um, pretty
[1:36:45] much ignored. And that caused me though
[1:36:47] to start
[1:36:49] personally something I could do without
[1:36:51] waiting on some other activity to do and
[1:36:55] that is start the US 395 safety program
[1:36:58] in the form of an image I created of the
[1:37:01] US 395 route sign with a skull and
[1:37:04] crossbones
[1:37:05] uh hanging over it. It's uh it's
[1:37:08] sharpedged visually. Motorcyclists just
[1:37:11] love it. And I started buying the
[1:37:14] stickers from Sticker Mule and uh formed
[1:37:17] an arrangement with them. And I've been
[1:37:19] buying them uh right along over the
[1:37:22] years, over the dozen years. And I'm
[1:37:24] thinking we're coming close to getting
[1:37:26] around 10,000 of those stickers on
[1:37:29] bumpers and uh back truck windows and
[1:37:33] elsewhere. Um and what it says to the
[1:37:36] driver and other drivers who've seen
[1:37:38] them. I can say this because I just
[1:37:40] ordered 500 more stickers. They'll be at
[1:37:42] my shop and elsewhere for pickup. We're
[1:37:46] going to charge $1 a sticker. That'll
[1:37:48] allow me to buy 500 more once these are
[1:37:51] gone. And it says to the drivers, if
[1:37:54] you're going to go on US 395, especially
[1:37:57] south of here, put your head on a swivel
[1:38:00] because you're you're going to be taking
[1:38:03] your life in your hands. pull in behind
[1:38:05] some ponderous truck and let the truck
[1:38:08] block for you as the crazy people
[1:38:10] heading north trying to get to Mammoth
[1:38:12] to go skiing or whatever have to pull
[1:38:15] into oncoming traffic to get by.
[1:38:19] And um I'm pleased to think that over
[1:38:22] time perhaps,
[1:38:25] you never know for sure, perhaps we've
[1:38:27] saved some lives. And when Kernog
[1:38:31] finally gets around to improving US 395
[1:38:35] by adding two or three passing lane
[1:38:38] opportunities, I think that would be the
[1:38:41] improvement I'd like to see. That's
[1:38:43] something they can actually afford. Um
[1:38:46] that'll happen. then I'll quit ordering
[1:38:48] stickers.
[1:38:50] » Hey, hey, skip, real quick. Um, on the
[1:38:53] subject of current cog, Travis, are you
[1:38:55] still sitting in on those calls?
[1:38:57] » Uh,
[1:38:59] Kyle, I'm not hearing you.
[1:39:00] » Oh, I'm sorry. Can I can you hear me
[1:39:02] now?
[1:39:03] » If you if you talk right into that
[1:39:05] microphone, I can.
[1:39:06] » He was asking if Mr. Reid was also
[1:39:09] » Yes. I'm asking uh so Travis so there is
[1:39:12] the both the elected portion of kernogg
[1:39:14] and there is also a very large probably
[1:39:17] a lot a lot larger than it was before uh
[1:39:20] presence of staff tackling kernogg and
[1:39:23] you can imagine why because it is an
[1:39:25] immense amount of money that pours in um
[1:39:28] into roads and streets across uh across
[1:39:31] the county and so I remember when I was
[1:39:34] on curtain cog Travis was there as the
[1:39:36] public works director was on those staff
[1:39:39] calls and they were making a great deal
[1:39:40] of headway towards getting projects and
[1:39:43] money and funding. Uh, and it was
[1:39:45] actually Travis having projects ready,
[1:39:48] shovel ready, he could swoop in and get
[1:39:50] other cities money on a pretty
[1:39:52] consistent basis. And so my hope was
[1:39:54] that we are still doing that. Uh, you're
[1:39:56] still paying attention to that.
[1:39:57] » So yeah, I do still pay attention to it
[1:39:59] actively. I still work with Terry on uh
[1:40:02] dealing with our local planners from the
[1:40:05] Kernog area for the multitude of grants
[1:40:08] that we go after. Um I think one of the
[1:40:11] biggest things that's changed is Kernog
[1:40:13] has become more of they actually don't
[1:40:17] they aren't the overseer of the money
[1:40:19] anymore if that makes sense. They are
[1:40:22] the advocate for it. We go through their
[1:40:24] process to get grants or to get projects
[1:40:26] moved to the top of the line. But CALR
[1:40:29] is actually the one that administers
[1:40:31] most of them. And I'm sure we all have
[1:40:33] seen the uh direction that our state has
[1:40:36] taken with uh ADA concerns and things
[1:40:39] like that. So the majority of CALR shop
[1:40:41] funding has been shoved towards ADA and
[1:40:45] projects because that's what they're
[1:40:46] getting sued on the most. Um we did get
[1:40:48] a cargo study done on 395 that shows 395
[1:40:52] is the fifth fifth or sixth, I can't
[1:40:54] remember, most important project in the
[1:40:56] region. So there is still headway being
[1:40:58] made on it, but it has been pushed out
[1:41:00] due to other concerns and other laws
[1:41:03] that have been passed to which have
[1:41:05] forced money to other areas.
[1:41:10] Another committee I virtually attend is
[1:41:13] East Current Air Pollution Control
[1:41:15] District. I believe that committee out
[1:41:17] of um Tahachchip will be meeting uh
[1:41:20] quarterly
[1:41:22] and uh they just recently published
[1:41:25] their annual toxics report. I um imposed
[1:41:29] upon Rick to make us about a dozen
[1:41:31] copies that that are on the desk right
[1:41:34] now. It's um it's a bit dry but um it
[1:41:39] has some elements of interest. It shows
[1:41:42] what the East Current Air Pollution
[1:41:44] Control District is sniffing about to
[1:41:46] become aware of and how they respond to
[1:41:49] it and um
[1:41:52] their world and
[1:41:56] it makes for some interesting reading.
[1:41:58] You're invited uh uh I have 12 of them,
[1:42:01] 13 if I put my copy there laying on the
[1:42:04] desk. You're invited to grab yourself a
[1:42:06] copy if you're so inclined and um read
[1:42:10] it, be informed. That's all I have.
[1:42:13] Thank you. Anyone else with the other
[1:42:16] committee boards or commission?
[1:42:19] All right. Uh I am part of the RAN
[1:42:22] board. Um it is actually I don't know
[1:42:25] what it's what RAN stands for. Do you
[1:42:27] know what RA stand? Yeah. Uh it
[1:42:31] basically was the overview of the
[1:42:34] sheriff's department um and law
[1:42:36] enforcement in Kern County. Uh we had
[1:42:39] our annual meeting um
[1:42:42] I don't know couple couple weeks ago. Um
[1:42:47] we looked at um different proxy
[1:42:49] attendants.
[1:42:51] um they have a security assessment. Um
[1:42:55] and they are using their county IT
[1:42:58] system to do the security assessment of
[1:43:01] their system. Um I suggested that they
[1:43:04] look at SISA and see what SISA can do to
[1:43:07] help protect them. Um I was then told
[1:43:09] that Kern County can handle it. Uh they
[1:43:12] don't need a federal agency doing it for
[1:43:15] free. So who am I to say anything
[1:43:17] different? Um
[1:43:19] they did change their meeting frequency.
[1:43:22] Uh so they'll now be meeting twice a
[1:43:25] year. Uh March will be the budget
[1:43:27] review. September will be the progress
[1:43:29] review. They did have their budget
[1:43:31] proposal. Um some of the things that
[1:43:33] they are looking at is increasing um
[1:43:38] oh my god brain fart. Um life where is
[1:43:42] he? Chief what's the life scan is life
[1:43:45] scan.
[1:43:47] » Yes. Uh so they are getting more money
[1:43:48] for that. Um they also talked about uh
[1:43:51] getting retinal scanners uh with their
[1:43:54] uh live scan. So um yeah, that was that
[1:43:59] was the RAN board meeting. It was rather
[1:44:00] quick. Um all right, next we have the
[1:44:04] city manager report.
[1:44:08] » So I got a couple things for you
[1:44:09] tonight. Uh comprehensive pool update.
[1:44:12] No, I'm just kidding. Thank you, Luis,
[1:44:13] for for doing that. U I just wanted to
[1:44:15] say one of the one quick thing about
[1:44:17] Luis. Luis has really been um thrown
[1:44:19] into the fire here lately. Him and Sator
[1:44:21] are very very busy. So I greatly
[1:44:23] appreciate him taking the time to put
[1:44:24] that report together. He also handles
[1:44:28] all of our encroachment permits uh a lot
[1:44:30] of plan checks uh dealing with the
[1:44:33] Bowman project uh out on Mayhem and
[1:44:37] prepping for our next project. So they
[1:44:39] really are have been busy and they're
[1:44:40] doing a great job for us. So I
[1:44:42] appreciate their their help. Um, next I
[1:44:44] check almost daily if not multiple times
[1:44:48] a day to see if we have received a
[1:44:50] response from CEC. I would assume that
[1:44:53] it would come through the docket. Um,
[1:44:55] like everything else has come, but I am
[1:44:58] yet to see anything be published in
[1:44:59] response to our request for intervenor
[1:45:02] status. Um, I was going to give it till
[1:45:04] the end of the week and if I haven't
[1:45:05] heard from anybody the end of the week,
[1:45:06] I was going to call Miss Huber or Huber,
[1:45:09] however you pronounce that, and see if I
[1:45:10] can get an update and see what we are to
[1:45:12] expect.
[1:45:13] Um, and then I think Chief, do you want
[1:45:15] to talk about your uh information, some
[1:45:17] statistics that we've had with Fox
[1:45:19] system?
[1:45:32] Several people on council asked for just
[1:45:34] some data on flock, how it's used, most
[1:45:37] specifically, have we had success using
[1:45:39] it? Is there value? Uh the answer I
[1:45:42] believe is yes. Uh we've had 72
[1:45:46] specific arrests from Flock. Uh
[1:45:49] everything ranging from attempted
[1:45:50] homicide, child stealing,
[1:45:54] domestic violence, DUIs,
[1:45:56] a whole host of different violations
[1:45:59] that we've been able to quickly address.
[1:46:01] One of the misnomers about Flock is that
[1:46:04] it is in some way um replaces the
[1:46:07] officer. What I would offer to you is
[1:46:09] that it accelerates investigations.
[1:46:11] We're able to get more information
[1:46:13] faster to make decisions and act on that
[1:46:17] uh investigative information.
[1:46:20] It gives us the ability, for example,
[1:46:23] uh we had a hit and run where without
[1:46:25] flock, we wouldn't have able to identify
[1:46:26] the vehicles that were in the area at
[1:46:28] the time. So, it's been valuable in that
[1:46:30] way. uh as the police department being
[1:46:33] the point of the flock contract, you
[1:46:35] know, we're also trying to work with our
[1:46:37] community groups who have privacy
[1:46:39] concerns. We recognize that those
[1:46:41] concerns are valid and uh in meeting
[1:46:43] with them, we were certainly looking for
[1:46:45] ways to that's why I asked them to
[1:46:47] submit language that they thought was
[1:46:48] acceptable. So, I can try to push that
[1:46:50] through Flock and say, "Hey, the people
[1:46:52] in our community would like it to say
[1:46:54] this." I don't know if they'll do it.
[1:46:55] they're big corporation, but I
[1:46:57] definitely want to take the information
[1:46:58] from the community and try to put it in
[1:47:01] front of flock and see if I can't get it
[1:47:02] through. Uh, I'm not holding my breath
[1:47:05] because they're Flock and they didn't
[1:47:07] care what LAPD had to say, but we're
[1:47:08] Ridgerest, so we'll see how it goes. Um,
[1:47:12] so I put a little packet together with
[1:47:13] just some information about some of the
[1:47:14] case law, some of the cases that we've
[1:47:17] uh used Flock for. I I will maybe
[1:47:21] correct our conversation a little bit.
[1:47:22] Uh while I did acknowledge that the
[1:47:24] flock
[1:47:26] product does make errors in reading
[1:47:28] plates, for example, calling an I a T
[1:47:31] when the plate is covered, we didn't
[1:47:33] talk about the percentage. We definitely
[1:47:35] do not have a 70% misread uh rate here.
[1:47:39] That might have happened somewhere else,
[1:47:40] but uh we do get misreads, but the
[1:47:42] percentage is relatively low. Uh, and
[1:47:45] again to reiterate, Flock has no ability
[1:47:49] to run a license plate through DMV.
[1:47:52] Anything that you read about an error in
[1:47:57] a stop is a police officer problem. That
[1:48:00] is a police officer police department
[1:48:02] mistake, not a Flock mistake. Flock
[1:48:04] gives us a picture. We have to evaluate
[1:48:06] that picture for authenticity, confirm
[1:48:08] that it's the correct plate that we're
[1:48:10] looking for before we take any action.
[1:48:12] that's incumbent upon our officers to do
[1:48:15] that. Uh, knock on wood, we haven't
[1:48:17] stopped somebody who shouldn't be
[1:48:18] stopped. U, but I can see how it does
[1:48:21] happen with people, you know, being a
[1:48:23] little bit too assertive and not taking
[1:48:25] the time to verify the information. But
[1:48:27] we've had good luck. Uh, there was a
[1:48:29] point in our policy that, uh, the group
[1:48:34] pointed out that they wanted changed and
[1:48:37] we control the policy as the city. So,
[1:48:39] that change was made. I met with them on
[1:48:41] Friday at 5 and that policy was made at
[1:48:45] 9:00 a.m. on Monday. We were able to
[1:48:47] change that policy. It was a wording
[1:48:48] issue that was easy to correct. So,
[1:48:51] we'll continue to work as closely as we
[1:48:52] can with the community members. You
[1:48:54] know, of course, my goal is to keep
[1:48:56] Flock up and running. So, if that means
[1:48:57] we got to, you know, work to get some
[1:48:59] language changed, uh, we'll certainly do
[1:49:02] that because I do believe it's an
[1:49:03] effective tool to help keep your keep
[1:49:05] our community safe and catch bad guys
[1:49:07] faster than we could before. And I'm
[1:49:10] happy to take any questions if you have
[1:49:11] them.
[1:49:14] » So if can I answer can I ask any
[1:49:17] questions? Can
[1:49:17] » Go ahead.
[1:49:18] » Okay. Um so you've sent the language to
[1:49:22] Flock, right? Say they reject it the the
[1:49:24] proposed language for the contract. Say
[1:49:28] they reject it. Is that a thing when the
[1:49:31] next time that the contract is up for
[1:49:33] renewal that we can push for those
[1:49:35] changes? We actually have a little
[1:49:37] window in our contract we can push for
[1:49:39] the changes now. Okay.
[1:49:40] » So, we'll see what they do. Okay.
[1:49:41] » I'll report back and if they don't
[1:49:43] change it, we can go from there.
[1:49:46] » Okay.
[1:49:46] » Like I said, I'm not terribly optimistic
[1:49:49] because of they didn't change it for
[1:49:52] LAPD. LAPD still gives them a lot more
[1:49:54] money than we do. Uh but I think we're a
[1:49:56] little more persuasive.
[1:49:58] » There we go. That's a spirit.
[1:50:01] » Great. Thank you. Oh,
[1:50:03] » Sorry.
[1:50:06] This is a hot camering
[1:50:25] a report.
[1:50:26] » It turned off.
[1:50:27] » There we go. You're receiving a report
[1:50:29] from the city manager. Part of that
[1:50:30] report is a report for the police chief
[1:50:32] on the status of flock. So there is no
[1:50:35] violation. We're fine.
[1:50:36] » Thank you.
[1:50:36] » Okay.
[1:50:37] » So chief, I I just want to say I think
[1:50:39] that flock is an effective tool to catch
[1:50:43] bad people doing bad things in our
[1:50:45] community. U one of the concerns I've
[1:50:46] heard from the public on numerous
[1:50:48] occasions is the abuse of the
[1:50:51] information that flock contains. And so
[1:50:54] in when I was reading through this
[1:50:55] brief, um correct me if I'm wrong, but I
[1:50:58] I read that, you know, we that the
[1:51:00] department is having bi-weekly reviews
[1:51:03] or you know like I guess you could say
[1:51:05] audits that would be one of my you know
[1:51:07] suggestions suggestions is to have a you
[1:51:10] know a review and an audit of the you
[1:51:12] know usage of it and who's using it but
[1:51:14] is that correct in what I read that the
[1:51:16] the department is doing that on a weekly
[1:51:18] basis?
[1:51:19] » That is correct. We were doing it
[1:51:20] monthly.
[1:51:21] » Okay.
[1:51:21] » But now it's easier just to do it right
[1:51:23] before every meeting so I can speak
[1:51:25] intelligently to any lapses that may
[1:51:27] occur. We haven't found any, but I want
[1:51:29] to make sure I can report in real time
[1:51:31] because I think it's valuable to both
[1:51:32] the council and the community.
[1:51:34] » Very good. Thank you.
[1:51:36] » Thank you, Chief.
[1:51:38] » Good.
[1:51:39] » Yeah. And the last thing for me, um,
[1:51:42] Parks is undertaking yet another project
[1:51:44] uh, in-house. They are going to be
[1:51:46] renovating the varsity softball field
[1:51:49] beginning August 10th. They have decided
[1:51:52] to use the same method we used on the
[1:51:53] Shetland field. The Shetland field's
[1:51:54] been uh, holding up quite nicely. It's
[1:51:57] held up with the heat so far. I haven't
[1:51:59] been out this week with it at 113. Have
[1:52:01] you by chance? It still looks good. So,
[1:52:04] we're going to try to take that same
[1:52:05] approach and try to get the varsity
[1:52:06] softball field redone. Um, so we've got
[1:52:09] a nice good flat true grass playing
[1:52:12] surface for not only the Burough's
[1:52:14] varsity softball team, but all the uh
[1:52:16] youth groups that use them as well and
[1:52:18] adult softball I'm sure at some point
[1:52:20] and all that stuff. So, when when does
[1:52:23] Burough's
[1:52:25] softball start?
[1:52:26] » October, right? Is that when they start?
[1:52:29] They're they're doing some club stuff
[1:52:31] right now, but we're going to move them
[1:52:32] to JV. Um, and then, uh, we're going to
[1:52:35] have it down from like August 10th to
[1:52:37] October 12th. That'll give us time to
[1:52:39] get the work done, let the grassroot,
[1:52:42] uh, give it time to establish itself,
[1:52:43] and then we'll turn it back over so all
[1:52:45] the groups can use it. So,
[1:52:46] » I just wanted to I I assume you guys
[1:52:48] looked into the timing of it. I just
[1:52:50] wanted to make sure that it would be
[1:52:52] good.
[1:52:52] » Nuriss and her staff speak directly with
[1:52:54] all the directors of the groups. Uh the
[1:52:56] other people that are closely involved
[1:52:58] with coaching groups. Uh they teach she
[1:53:01] spoke directly to the head coach of the
[1:53:02] varsity softball team. Um so she does
[1:53:04] they do a really good job of making sure
[1:53:06] they maintain communication and let
[1:53:08] everybody know when we're planning on
[1:53:10] doing it and make sure we can try to
[1:53:12] accommodate those groups as best as we
[1:53:13] can. I think the groups are probably
[1:53:15] more excited to see the field getting
[1:53:17] redone than they are for the
[1:53:18] inconvenience of maybe potentially
[1:53:19] having to move a field. With that,
[1:53:21] » It's the end of my report.
[1:53:23] » All right. Thank you.
[1:53:25] » All right. Uh next we will move to
[1:53:27] future agenda items.
[1:53:32] » None. None. All right. Mayor and council
[1:53:35] comments.
[1:53:37] » Oh,
[1:53:38] I'm disappointed.
[1:53:39] » I I just wanted to see you look
[1:53:41] disappointed. I I have actually talked
[1:53:44] enough. I haven't I haven't got anything
[1:53:46] more to add.
[1:53:49] » I just want to say thank you to the
[1:53:50] chief for this uh this brief on flock. I
[1:53:52] know it's a um a heated contested uh
[1:53:55] issue in in the community. But um I want
[1:53:58] to thank him for meeting with the folks
[1:54:00] in the within the community that have
[1:54:02] concerns about it and and trying to work
[1:54:03] through some of their some of the issues
[1:54:05] that they have um and you know things
[1:54:08] that could be bettered and uh keep close
[1:54:11] tabs on on the flock. I do think it's
[1:54:13] something that is effective um but I
[1:54:16] also think it's something that has to be
[1:54:17] guarded closely um in house and u so I
[1:54:22] just want to thank you for meeting with
[1:54:24] these individuals and thank the
[1:54:25] individuals for bringing your concerns
[1:54:27] to the chief and I and I hope that we
[1:54:28] can come to a a workable you know and
[1:54:31] and comfortable position on it. So thank
[1:54:34] you everyone.
[1:54:38] I just want to thank all the candidates
[1:54:41] who are running for the council as well
[1:54:42] as for mayor. Um this time of the year
[1:54:45] there is lot lot of interest but it is a
[1:54:48] great calling and with that comes great
[1:54:51] responsibility
[1:54:53] and great sacrifice and you have to give
[1:54:56] lot of time. So thank you very much for
[1:54:58] your willingness to serve this
[1:55:00] community. It's a great honor. Thank
[1:55:02] you.
[1:55:03] And secondly,
[1:55:06] I want to recognize the planning
[1:55:08] commission and the code enforcement. I
[1:55:10] mean, some of the work they do, it goes
[1:55:13] unnoticed. So, I want to bring to the
[1:55:15] public notice that um they have been
[1:55:18] working on cleaning up the properties.
[1:55:20] One of the property on 505 South Helina
[1:55:24] is um given permission for abatement.
[1:55:28] So, that property would be cleaned up
[1:55:30] soon. I mean it had his own challenges.
[1:55:33] I've been following up on this for a
[1:55:35] long time. But this is the first example
[1:55:38] and this gives us a base for abating
[1:55:42] other properties which have legal
[1:55:44] issues. So thank you so much for the
[1:55:46] code enforcement office for taking care
[1:55:49] of these properties.
[1:55:55] So, school starts tomorrow and I know
[1:55:57] there's probably uh at every age at what
[1:56:00] whatever grade you're going into,
[1:56:02] there's probably a lot of nerves, a lot
[1:56:04] of anticipation. Uh sometimes
[1:56:08] sometimes society can be can be rough to
[1:56:11] integrate into. But I I wish every
[1:56:14] single kid, no matter what grade, no
[1:56:15] matter what school, no matter where
[1:56:17] you're at, I I wish you the very very
[1:56:19] best because I think u I mean, my gosh,
[1:56:23] right, there's that that's what those
[1:56:24] are the kids. That's what we're supposed
[1:56:25] to be paying attention to, the next
[1:56:27] generation, the future, growing their
[1:56:30] minds, um and and their souls. So, I I
[1:56:34] would also like to to add that my
[1:56:36] appreciation for everybody running for
[1:56:38] council. Uh not just for council, for
[1:56:40] mayor, not just for the water district,
[1:56:43] uh for the school board, right? There's
[1:56:44] a lot of people putting their names out
[1:56:46] there and putting themselves out there.
[1:56:47] And it's a it's a raw experience. You're
[1:56:50] going to witness a part of the community
[1:56:53] you've never witnessed before. You're
[1:56:55] you're going to you're going to witness
[1:56:56] a part of your friends and family that
[1:56:58] you didn't know existed. And you're
[1:57:01] going to grow exponentially
[1:57:04] like as a person you are going to grow
[1:57:06] quite a bit and it's nothing but good.
[1:57:09] It's nothing but healthy for you. Uh it
[1:57:12] there are times that will appear uh
[1:57:15] negative but those are momentary and in
[1:57:18] the growth path. So, so stick with it,
[1:57:20] stay at it, and and no matter how it
[1:57:23] turns out, whether it's a win or it's a
[1:57:24] loss, uh you went out there and you did
[1:57:26] it, and you were just a small tiny
[1:57:29] percentage of people that that stepped
[1:57:31] into the arena, so to speak. So, so good
[1:57:34] on you for doing it, and good luck.
[1:57:39] All right, I will close us out. Um,
[1:57:42] today in history, 20 years ago, I was
[1:57:45] able to con my wife into marrying me.
[1:57:49] Uh, so we celebrated our 20-y year
[1:57:51] anniversary today, um, by me being at
[1:57:54] city council and then being on a flight
[1:57:56] to Meoo for most of the day. So, I got
[1:57:59] to rub that in her face that it's nice
[1:58:01] weather there. Um,
[1:58:03] also want to point out, um, as Dave
[1:58:07] said, it is silly season. So, um,
[1:58:12] thank you for stepping up. There's not a
[1:58:15] lot of people willing to take on the
[1:58:18] slings and arrows that will be coming
[1:58:20] your way. Um, uh, a lot of people are
[1:58:24] looking to tear people down instead of
[1:58:26] building them up. Um, and and it's not
[1:58:31] easy. Um, you have to have thick skin.
[1:58:34] Um,
[1:58:36] and I will say, uh, stay off of
[1:58:39] Facebook.
[1:58:41] That's where the evilness is. Um,
[1:58:44] um, but it's, you know, each person's
[1:58:47] going to have their own leadership
[1:58:49] style. Um, mine obviously was to stay
[1:58:52] off Facebook um, and to meet people in
[1:58:54] person. Uh, so much so that I bought a
[1:58:57] shirt that said I'm the mayor because
[1:58:58] people had no clue who I was. Uh, they
[1:59:01] knew me by my shoes. Uh, still do. Um,
[1:59:05] but remember that
[1:59:08] people have intent and and while I
[1:59:12] generally have
[1:59:14] a cynical view of society as whole, uh,
[1:59:18] and that's just due to my time in
[1:59:20] military intelligence and grad school
[1:59:22] and learning about people. Um, people
[1:59:25] are good. Um, people are trying to step
[1:59:29] up and make a productive change. Um,
[1:59:32] people want to help. Um, I was having a
[1:59:34] conversation with someone this week and
[1:59:37] I I mentioned Mr. Rogers. Uh, Mr. Rogers
[1:59:40] used to watch that show all the time.
[1:59:42] Uh, and he he had a a bit where he would
[1:59:44] talk about look for the helpers. Well,
[1:59:46] the helpers are the ones that have
[1:59:48] pulled papers and got people to sign for
[1:59:50] them and and are trying to help make
[1:59:53] this city better. Um, remember that it
[1:59:57] is incremental change. Um, a lot of big
[2:00:00] changes doesn't happen easy with
[2:00:02] government. There's a lot of experiences
[2:00:04] with that. Um I don't know if you guys
[2:00:08] notice, but I am not seeking
[2:00:09] re-election. Um
[2:00:12] it is a good weight loss pro program. I
[2:00:14] will tell you that. Um stress and
[2:00:17] anxiety uh run a muck. Um, what you guys
[2:00:23] as the public don't see is I I'm not
[2:00:27] going to speak for the rest of you, but
[2:00:28] I go home and I question
[2:00:31] everything that I just did in that
[2:00:33] meeting. Did I make the right choice?
[2:00:35] Did I represent to my best abilities?
[2:00:38] And that hangs over you for a long time
[2:00:41] after that meeting and that gavvel stops
[2:00:43] and we've adjourned. Um that's the part
[2:00:47] most people don't see and and to be
[2:00:50] honest most people don't care to see. Um
[2:00:53] they most of the public um they look at
[2:00:56] elected representatives through a lens
[2:00:59] of greed of selfservice.
[2:01:02] Um and and once you get to know uh the
[2:01:07] people who are running, you will see
[2:01:10] that they are ordinary ordinary average
[2:01:12] individuals trying to step up and meet
[2:01:14] the moment. Um
[2:01:17] I I am not running uh because I talk to
[2:01:20] my kids. Uh my wife my wife I love her
[2:01:23] to death. She didn't want me to run in
[2:01:24] the first place. Um and I ran. Didn't
[2:01:27] think I was going to win. I won. Uh so
[2:01:29] we were both shocked. Um,
[2:01:34] I have enjoyed being the mayor. Um,
[2:01:37] because I feel like I'm helping. Um, I
[2:01:41] also didn't realize the strain that that
[2:01:43] puts on my children. Um, and and my
[2:01:46] kids, they matter the world to me. Um,
[2:01:50] for as long as I can remember, uh, you
[2:01:53] know, as this is my 20 year wedding
[2:01:55] anniversary, I start thinking about, you
[2:01:57] know, where we were uh, when we got
[2:01:59] married.
[2:02:01] We were so poor. Um, we had nothing. Uh,
[2:02:04] we lived in married student housing in
[2:02:05] Purdue. All we dreamed about was having
[2:02:07] a family and and eventually getting to
[2:02:10] the place that we are today. Um, and you
[2:02:14] know, my daughter, she wanted me to run.
[2:02:16] Uh, she likes telling people that I'm
[2:02:17] the mayor. Um, and that she's going to
[2:02:20] be the mayor one day. Uh, but she was
[2:02:22] afraid that if I didn't run for mayor
[2:02:24] that we would have to move from Richest.
[2:02:27] Um, and so I I assured her that we can
[2:02:30] stay in Rich cuz I have other jobs. Um,
[2:02:35] and then she was like, "Okay, Daddy, you
[2:02:37] can you cannot be mayor. You can be home
[2:02:39] with me." And my son, I missed a lot of
[2:02:42] his life, uh, growing up with the
[2:02:45] military, with my grad school, uh, with
[2:02:48] this. Um, and so I try and pour myself
[2:02:50] into sports with him and to coach him so
[2:02:52] I can see that development, so I can see
[2:02:54] that growth. Um, and so I don't have
[2:02:58] much a lot of time left before he leaves
[2:03:01] the house and goes to college and starts
[2:03:04] his own family. So, I'm going to make
[2:03:06] use of the time with him. Uh, so I can
[2:03:09] see him grow and develop and become the
[2:03:10] man that he is. Um,
[2:03:14] I told myself I wasn't going to cry. Uh
[2:03:17] but
[2:03:19] just just remember when you're in this
[2:03:23] cycle uh the knives will come out.
[2:03:26] People will target you for any
[2:03:28] deficiency that they see and tell you
[2:03:31] that you're not enough.
[2:03:34] You are enough. Um you are stepping up
[2:03:37] when others didn't. Uh, and so that in
[2:03:41] my book puts you on a bigger pedestal
[2:03:44] than you're willing to take the the the
[2:03:47] anger, the animous of individuals who
[2:03:50] wouldn't do it. Um, and so on behalf of
[2:03:54] myself, uh, I just want to thank
[2:03:56] everyone that is running that wants to
[2:03:58] continue to make this city better. Um,
[2:04:02] that wants to be that change. Um, and so
[2:04:07] that is
[2:04:09] is all I have. I don't have a quip or
[2:04:12] sarcasm. I was I was told today that
[2:04:14] apparently growing up in the Midwest,
[2:04:16] sarcasm is part of your lexicon. Uh, too
[2:04:19] bad that it's only taken a year and a
[2:04:21] half for people to start understanding
[2:04:23] that I'm overly sarcastic. And I don't
[2:04:26] have the filter to stop. Um, so with
[2:04:29] that, um, I hope that, uh, the children
[2:04:33] going to school today, tomorrow have a
[2:04:35] great school year. Um, that they reach
[2:04:38] their potential and that we as a
[2:04:41] community continue to support them
[2:04:42] through that. Um, and that we give them
[2:04:45] all the love and guidance that either we
[2:04:48] wish we would have had or that we did
[2:04:50] have. So, thank you all. Have a
[2:04:52] wonderful evening and we will see you in
[2:04:54] two weeks. Thank you.