1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:08,720 Good evening. We will go ahead and call the meeting to order. It is uh 5:00 pm. 2 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:11,120 Roll call. >> Chairman Ferris 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,320 » here. >> Commissioner [clears throat] Haymon 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,599 » here. >> Commissioner Mont Dragon 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,839 » here. >> Commissioner Poxis 6 00:00:14,719 --> 00:00:20,000 » here. >> For present. We have a quorum. 7 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,720 » All right. If you all rise for the pledge of allegiance, please. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:34,880 » Ready to begin. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:40,559 to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with 10 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:43,800 liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. 11 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:52,879 I am requesting a motion um for approval of the agenda. 12 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,199 » So moved. >> I'll second. 13 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,719 » Ferris >> I. 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,399 » Haymon. I >> M dragon 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,079 » I >> I 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:09,080 » motion carries. >> Okay. Um we are 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,080 swearing in a new commissioner, 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,400 » Mr. Bowen. 19 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:32,400 Raise your right hand. >> I state Oh, [snorts] sorry. I, Eric, 20 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:35,439 » doly affirm affirm >> that I will support and defend 21 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:39,600 » that I will support and defend >> the Constitution of the United States 22 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,320 » Constitution of the United States >> and the Constitution of the State of 23 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,400 California >> and the Constitution of the State of 24 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,960 California >> against all enemies 25 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,520 » against all enemies, >> foreign and domestic. 26 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:53,920 » foreign and domestic. >> That I will bear true faith and alian 27 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:58,159 true faith and allegiance >> to the Constitution of the United States 28 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,360 » to the Constit Constitution of the United States 29 00:01:59,439 --> 00:02:03,920 » and the Constitution of the State of California. 30 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:08,000 » Constitution of the State of California. >> That I take this obligation free 31 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:11,840 » that I take this obligation freely >> without any mental reservation 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,760 » without any reservation >> or purpose of evasion 33 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,440 » or purpose of evasion. and that I will well 34 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:19,840 » and that I will well >> and faithfully discharge 35 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,400 » and faithfully discharge >> the duties upon which 36 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,760 » the duties upon which >> I'm about to enter 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:28,760 » I'm about to enter ma'am 38 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:36,680 » thank you all thank you Eric 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:46,400 um we will um make a motion to approve the minutes at the next meeting 40 00:02:42,959 --> 00:02:49,200 um non-aggenda the public comments. Uh, persons wishing to address the 41 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,680 commission on matters that are within the commission's jurisdiction and do not 42 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:57,360 already appear on the agenda may do so at this time. Pursuant to the Brown Act, 43 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:02,000 the planning commission may not take action on an item that that does not 44 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,840 appear on this agenda. Oh, I'm sorry. Speakers are limited to five minutes. 45 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:09,840 The public comment section of the agenda is limited to a total of one hour. Each 46 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,840 speaker is asked to provide his or her name. 47 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:23,120 Hello there. My name is Kelly Betts. Last Wednesday, the issue of backyard 48 00:03:21,519 --> 00:03:26,879 poultry was brought before the city council and they agreed to add it to the 49 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:30,480 agenda for discussion at a next city council meeting. At the request of 50 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Councilman Blades, I am here today before the planning commission to 51 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:37,519 discuss the current municipal code and possible amendments that could be made 52 00:03:35,599 --> 00:03:42,319 to accommodate backyard poultry following a future decision by the city 53 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:46,959 council. The current municipal code does not contain any specific language as to 54 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:52,080 the allowance or forbiddance of backyard poultry in residential zoning. This lack 55 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:56,319 of communication has led the public to believe that poultry is allowed in 56 00:03:53,760 --> 00:04:00,959 Ridgerest, and countless citizens already own backyard chickens, ducks, 57 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:04,560 quails, and other birds. Recent events have brought this into 58 00:04:02,959 --> 00:04:08,799 question as some residents have been told that they must remove their birds 59 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:13,360 from the pre premises without warning and any chance of remediation. 60 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:17,680 The current municipal code requires cleanliness of all animal habitations 61 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:22,400 regardless of species and it forbids loud and continuous animal noises such 62 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:26,800 as barking and crowing. I agree with these requirements. However, this does 63 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:31,280 not specifically say that backyard birds are not allowed under any circumstance. 64 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:35,680 even when cleanliness and noise are not in question. I propose that we amend the 65 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:39,520 current municipal code to include allowances and limitations regarding 66 00:04:37,759 --> 00:04:43,919 poultry just as we have these specifications for cats and dogs. I have 67 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,600 taken an active part in community discussion regarding this issue, 68 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:51,759 including online and in person at community events. I have personally 69 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,919 spoken with hundreds of residents about their thoughts on this issue. Our 70 00:04:53,759 --> 00:05:00,240 petition already has almost 400 signatures in only one week. 71 00:04:58,639 --> 00:05:03,440 The most common comment that I have heard from residents is that they 72 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:07,360 thought owning backyard chickens was already allowed. Common concerns were 73 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,560 that there should be limits to the number of birds you can have and that 74 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:15,520 roosters should not be permitted in residential areas. I personally agree 75 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:20,080 with this. My opinion and suggestion is that a resident shall own no more than 76 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:24,320 eight female chickens or four ducks and no specified limit on quailes due to 77 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:27,520 their very small size. This number is based on the number of eggs that a 78 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:31,440 typical family would need for personal use and is based on the fact that chicks 79 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:37,280 must be purchased in quantities of four from local suppliers. I also suggest a 80 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:41,600 ban on the commercial sale of eggs and a complete ban of roosters in residential 81 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:46,160 zones unless explicit permission is granted from the city based on lot size 82 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:50,560 and other requirements. I believe that making these changes to the municipal 83 00:05:47,919 --> 00:05:54,880 code will save the time, money, and resources of animal control and code 84 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:59,520 enforcement officers by giving them discretion to act on situations and 85 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:03,919 complaints that actually constitute animal care negligence versus having to 86 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:08,000 respond to every tip that a chicken simply exists. I would be happy to hear 87 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:12,319 any concerns that you might have concerning this request and will gladly 88 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:16,800 respond with ideas on how to address any potential conflicts. I respectfully ask 89 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:21,120 that you begin looking into the current civil code and contemplate ways that it 90 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,479 could potentially be amended following a decision decision by our city council 91 00:06:23,039 --> 00:06:30,199 members at a future city council meeting. Thank you for your time. 92 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,199 » Thank you. 93 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:37,919 » Are we engaging questions or no? >> No. Okay. Thank you. 94 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:41,960 » Comment. >> Any other public comment? 95 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:52,919 Okay. Moving on, we will go ahead and open the uh public hearing. This is an 96 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,919 abatement of APN 34304234-0000-5, 97 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:03,919 a consideration of an abatement to the property due to buckled and obstructed 98 00:07:00,319 --> 00:07:12,319 sidewalks RMC 14-59 and 11-3 99 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:16,199 uh 3C. Property owner uh Dan Wyn, APN 343 04234-0000-5 100 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,680 staff report. 101 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Good evening. Tonight, I am requesting approval to abate a buckled sidewalk and 102 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:41,520 vegetation obstructing the sidewalk at the intersection of East Church Avenue 103 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:46,000 and South Lincoln Street. APN 343 042 34005. 104 00:07:44,319 --> 00:07:50,560 As you can see, this portion of the sidewalk is entirely unusable, forcing 105 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:54,720 pedestrians to step off of the sidewalk and into the roadway to navigate around 106 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:58,879 this obstacle, which is not only dangerous, but may be difficult, if not 107 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:02,639 impossible, for those with physical limitations. 108 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:08,879 Since the case was initiated on August 21st, 2025, I have made repeated efforts 109 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:12,879 to contact the property owner. Six notices have been mailed, three 110 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:17,120 citations have been issued, and numerous telephone calls have been placed. In 111 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:21,280 addition, I've utilized multiple available resources to research updated 112 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:25,599 mailing addresses for the property owner. Despite these efforts, I have 113 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:30,879 received no response from the property owner. Additionally, I've attempted to 114 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:35,760 contact who is believed to be relatives and associates of the property owner via 115 00:08:32,959 --> 00:08:39,519 phone. Unfortunately, many of these telephone numbers were either 116 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:43,839 disconnected, no longer belonged to the intended individuals, or did not result 117 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:47,600 in contact with anyone responsible for the property. 118 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:52,160 Based on these efforts, I believe every administrative approach available to the 119 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:56,480 city has been exhausted. With the violations remaining uncorrected, we are 120 00:08:54,560 --> 00:09:01,040 requesting the removal and replacement of the buckled portion of the sidewalk 121 00:08:58,959 --> 00:09:05,920 as well as the complete uprooting of the tree to ensure that this issue does not 122 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:10,519 occur again. With that, I'm available to answer any questions you may have. 123 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:17,839 » Thank you. Uh, commissioner comments, Mr. Bruin, we'll start with you. 124 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:21,920 » Uh, just this is actually we we had trimmed this bush back previously before 125 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:27,120 we started this abatement. Correct. And it went through like a parks uh a 126 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:32,720 streets maintenance trim back back in 23 I believe. Uh this this existed with the 127 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:36,080 same lot. I'm just putting written that on record that thank you guys for coming 128 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:39,440 forward. Thank you. Very thorough abatement, very thorough process, but 129 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:43,839 this is not something that just came up in 25. This person's ignored it for 130 00:09:41,839 --> 00:09:48,240 easily a good three to six years at this point. Um and I applaud your efforts in 131 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,440 getting it moving forward. Thank you. >> Thank you. 132 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:59,360 I'm curious how many or how many years the person has owned this lot. I'm 133 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:04,399 assuming a very long time if we can't get a hold of them. 134 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:10,240 From what I from what I remember, I believe it said as early as 2005. 135 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:14,160 The property owner used to be a resident of Ridgequest uh Rididgerest and 136 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:21,279 obviously they are no longer. However, they still do own this lot. 137 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:24,800 I think what uh looking at especially the picture that's on the screen there 138 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:28,880 like it's not worn down. Obviously there's not a lot of foot traffic or 139 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:31,920 anything that uh because people can't walk by there. 140 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,120 » Uh not questioning your means and methods and everything you did. I think 141 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,200 you're all doing a great job, but I'm just curious how many other parts of the 142 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:43,200 sidewalk on vacant lots around the city that might be damaged due to the 143 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:49,279 earthquake or old trees that used to be on 144 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:53,440 properties. Um, so it almost it almost seems like you're going to be chasing 145 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:57,360 your tails for a very long time uh around the city. So I'm curious if this 146 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:02,320 is something that the public works department can maybe go around and look 147 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:05,519 and maybe one week out of the year they go around 148 00:11:03,839 --> 00:11:11,200 and they try to do the best they can at least on the brush. The cost of 149 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:14,800 repairing sidewalks is expensive. So [clears throat] 150 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:19,440 on that note, we did talk, code enforcement and I did talk previous to 151 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:23,279 this on the state because we do have a sidewalk survey that was done. So we 152 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:31,200 know all of the sidewalks that need to be repaired and as of 153 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:36,720 this this year um they sent out 44 cases um that have had up to the 30 154 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,920 days, right? So, [clears throat] there's still more that are outstanding, but 155 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:44,800 they haven't even had the notice for 30 days. So, out of those 44 cases, 30 156 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:50,560 people have already fixed the sidewalks. Um, the vacant properties, they are a 157 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:53,680 continuous issue because people don't live here. So, they may not even know. 158 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:57,519 They don't know the sidewalks broken. They don't know that the weeds are 159 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:02,959 overgrown. But we have been working on that for all of this year to get those 160 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:07,519 trimmed and getting those uh property owners, which has actually spurred them 161 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:10,720 to decide whether or not they want to continue keeping this property or 162 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:14,880 whether they're ready to list it. So, it's kind of advantageous to us to get 163 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:19,600 them to pay attention to their property. Um the abatement will be just to fix the 164 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:25,360 sidewalk and remove that. It's not a hugely costly thing, but it is costly to 165 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:29,519 our community. And hopefully we can get those that 166 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,440 haven't responded, hopefully we can get multiple of them together so that when 167 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:38,399 we get people to go out and get fix them, it could potentially lower the 168 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:43,040 cost. And if memory serves me right, especially for the residents, if uh they 169 00:12:40,959 --> 00:12:46,160 get a break on the permit for doing this, right, since they've had a 170 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:50,800 citation, uh I don't think they pay full cost. I 171 00:12:49,519 --> 00:12:54,240 don't think it's a complete discount, but they don't. 172 00:12:52,320 --> 00:13:00,200 » So, they do receive a discount on the permits uh because it is a code 173 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:00,200 enforcement case. 174 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:05,120 » I didn't know you had a sidewalk survey. So 175 00:13:03,839 --> 00:13:09,440 » yes, >> I like it. 176 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:14,800 » Our good our good packed volunteers. >> That's all I have. 177 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:17,600 » Um, so on the final abatement notice, was that mailed or was that posted on 178 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,880 the property? >> This was mailed to the uh owner's 179 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:24,480 mailing address on file. >> Does it have to be posted on the 180 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:28,399 property or >> if if there was actually a structure on 181 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:35,200 the property? Yes. However, this is a vacant lot, so it is not required. 182 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:38,480 Okay. Cuz I'm just thinking if we post it [clears throat] in this case, it 183 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,160 probably wouldn't make a difference, but if you post it on the property, maybe 184 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:46,560 there's a neighbor that knows or a friend that drives by and sees it and 185 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:52,000 could contact the owner. But I think this is beyond that point at this point. 186 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:57,199 Um, my other question is I see there's like multiple pictures with different 187 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:01,600 dates. Um, has the city done anything to like warn the public, hey, there's a 188 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:06,000 trip hazard. go around maybe like safety cones, a sign. 189 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:10,160 » Nothing that I'm aware of. >> Okay. I think we should consider when 190 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:14,720 it's like something like this that's critical. Someone can just be walking 191 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:20,800 down the street and trip. So, and code enforcement sees it, maybe put out like 192 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:24,560 a cone or even I mean even just trim the tree back. It's you know just a pair of 193 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:28,560 clippers. trim them back a little bit so that it's not it's obviously a hazard, 194 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:34,600 but if we can do something about it to prevent an accident, we should. 195 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,600 » Thank you. 196 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:43,680 » Uh gentlemen in uh code enforcement. I think you guys are doing a great job. I 197 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:49,680 appreciate the uh the thoroughess of your report. Provides a level of clarity 198 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:54,399 that makes this side fairly easy. So, thank you for for that. have a feeling 199 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:59,880 you had a really good teacher. Um, we'll take a public comment right now if we 200 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,880 have any. 201 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:06,880 No. All right. At this time, I'd like to 202 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,600 request a [clears throat] motion um to approve this abatement. 203 00:15:08,639 --> 00:15:12,000 » All motion. >> Second. 204 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,760 » Ferris. >> I 205 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,279 » I >> Mond Dragon 206 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:18,639 » I. >> Foxes. 207 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,839 » I >> bre 208 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:22,880 » I >> Five eyes. Motion. 209 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,279 » You said Eric had to start there. >> The new guy. 210 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:29,240 » Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, sir. 211 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:39,199 » Thank you, Officer Capelli. >> Uh 212 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:45,120 brings us to parcel map uh waiver 26-01. Uh Tvali Center. uh consideration of a 213 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:50,959 parcel map waiver to subdivide two parcels into three parcels zoned general 214 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:53,959 commercial 1400 North Norma Street APN 419-020-41 215 00:15:54,800 --> 00:16:01,839 staff report. [clears throat] >> So this is a parcel map waiver to divide 216 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:05,279 the existing uh parcel. This [clears throat] parcel 217 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:10,720 is completely developed. So that's why we do a parcel map waiver, not a track 218 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:16,160 map um or a parcel map. all of the uh infrastructure that serves this is 219 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:23,199 already in existence. Um so this is on North Norma Street. Um there's a gas 220 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:29,920 station, the happy hours, and a couple of other existing tenants. 221 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:35,600 So this is how they're proposing to divide this. So then you would have 222 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:42,160 three separate parcels on here um for tenants 223 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:47,920 um for just the ease of dividing it. It would also um include the CCNRs as 224 00:16:46,079 --> 00:16:52,000 usual for these where there is that reciprocal access agreement for the 225 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:56,000 different businesses and then it lays out exactly who's responsible for which 226 00:16:54,560 --> 00:17:01,519 portions of the parking lot and stuff like that. So that helps us with 227 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:06,880 maintaining these things should they become an issue in the future. The 228 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:11,520 applicant is on the phone, so if we have questions for him, you guys can reach 229 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:16,919 out. Um staff is recommending that we do this parcel map waiver. Um any 230 00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:16,919 questions? 231 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:24,640 » I have one. How are they handling the three parking 232 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,520 spots at the intersection of the three lots? 233 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:36,799 It's uh if you look at line uh where the we know this is the gas station, the 234 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:41,120 office space and the the restaurant. Those are the three, you know, complexes 235 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:48,160 there. Um I can understand how they've drawn the line uh in the north line um 236 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:52,720 0626 East. That's clearly the back of the building. And I can see how they 237 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:59,600 tried to create the um other subdivide line, but it ends up subdividing 238 00:17:55,440 --> 00:18:03,840 uh slightly three parking spots on the corner 239 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:08,960 that technically fall within both parcel three and parcel one. And I'm just 240 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,880 curious if that those have been designated for the the gas station, 241 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:18,320 designated for the office building, or has there been some discussion in terms 242 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:23,400 of who has the uh maintenance and and um towing rights and all the above for for 243 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,400 those three spots? 244 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:31,840 » So, the the developer or developers rep is on the phone. 245 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,520 » Yes. Um can you hear me? >> Can you hear? 246 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:38,400 » Yes, sir. >> Um yeah, absolutely. the uh three 247 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:41,760 parking spaces was given to parcel one to accommodate the amount of square 248 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:48,240 footage necessary for the parcel map waiver. So the responsibility is on the 249 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:53,280 uh mini mart or gas station that is there uh in that partial one. 250 00:18:51,919 --> 00:18:56,520 » Thank you sir. >> You're welcome. 251 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:07,120 So based on the occupancy load of the restaurant area, uh that building should 252 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:14,400 have somewhere in the ballpark of 45 to 60 parking stalls. So you don't have 253 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:19,360 anywhere near that. And my understanding in this case, same 254 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:24,080 owner, one parcel turning into three. What happens when one of the parcels 255 00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:28,400 sells at some point? Maybe it's a year, maybe it's a hundred years from now, but 256 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:34,880 either or the new uh owner, if it were to ever sell, now doesn't have the 257 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:40,160 required parking spaces available. So, in all honesty, the the parking section 258 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:44,960 needs to be expanded for that uh restaurant area to include a lot more 259 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:50,799 parking spaces because if that ever were to sell, it 260 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:57,280 won't have the necessary amount that it has. uh the three parking stalls for the 261 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,480 um gas station. Is there no parking stalls 262 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,960 directly in front of the store? I'm assuming no. 263 00:20:01,919 --> 00:20:07,840 » There is. >> Okay. 264 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:14,080 So, are the are those three in that little bubble are those the ADA uh 265 00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:18,480 required parking spots? >> No, those are in front of the store. 266 00:20:15,919 --> 00:20:25,679 » Okay. I will say the CCNR generally is going to lay out the percentage that 267 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:29,280 each parcel is responsible for. So that and that will travel with the land that 268 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:34,000 will not be struck and no matter how this is sold and I have not personally 269 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:38,320 seen the CCNRs. That's a Travis review, not me. [clears throat] But we can make 270 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:43,440 sure that the CCNRs does lay out that they are responsible for 271 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:47,789 the percentage that would meet the need of that current use. But that doesn't 272 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:51,679 mean it's always going to be that use. [clears throat] 273 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:56,799 But the whole the whole three parcels are going to be responsible in some way, 274 00:20:54,080 --> 00:21:01,360 shape or form for the entirety of the parking. So even though parcel 3 is 275 00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:05,919 heavy on the parking right now, usually that reciprocal agreement is 276 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:10,640 going to include what percentage they're all. And so in the future, you know, if 277 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:14,640 parcel 3 still owns, you know, still has the major portion of the parking, 278 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:18,080 they're going to negotiate with that tenant based on what that tenant needs, 279 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:23,520 right? So that's probably in the tenants's lease. Um, that's how we've 280 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:29,080 seen it in the past. So that could very well be the case here, but I have not 281 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,080 reviewed that document. 282 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:37,520 Yeah, the the agreement's one thing, but uh 283 00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:40,880 if it changes ownership, that agreement doesn't has to be re rewritten and 284 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:44,960 redone. >> It would probably be in their lease 285 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:52,080 because the CCNR will always stay recorded with the the actual 286 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:55,760 uh parcel map waiver. So on that parcel map waiver, you'll see that CCNR, it's 287 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:02,320 going to have that agreement no matter how it changes hands. Um, but it would 288 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:06,960 be, yeah, it would need to be negotiated with them because that could not, that 289 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:10,480 could not be a restaurant tomorrow and then it could be an office and maybe 290 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:14,559 that parking works. But whoever's managing that property is going to have 291 00:22:12,159 --> 00:22:20,559 to determine the use for their tenants and make them responsible for whatever 292 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:24,720 portion of that parking lot as far as repairs because the CCNRs is going to 293 00:22:22,559 --> 00:22:31,440 determine, you know, you're responsible for 50% of the repairs or and they're 294 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:36,720 responsible for 25, right? But in our current in its current 295 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:39,280 occupancy, how many parking spots should that 296 00:22:38,159 --> 00:22:44,000 » I would have to know the size of the dining room. 297 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:51,320 » So it's uh one parking space per 300 square foot of dining. So not the whole 298 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,320 building, just the dining. 299 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,120 » Thank you. >> But yeah, thank you. 300 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:05,760 » Sure. Uh, no I don't have any questions. I just what Cody was asking about the 301 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:12,559 parking spots. So I hope they have a good agreement so that uh if parcel 3 302 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:17,600 ends up being empty and the other two parcels have tenants then if the parking 303 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:22,159 lot needs to be fixed or repairs done that we don't get into a situation where 304 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:26,080 well I don't have any tenants or in income coming in so I'm not going to fix 305 00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:30,679 it. So, I hope there's something in there that addresses that. 306 00:23:27,679 --> 00:23:30,679 » Okay. 307 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:37,600 » All right. [clears throat] I think that those would be addressed by the land 308 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:42,480 owner, the landlord. And so, it really isn't a and then Yeah. And then again, 309 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,679 to Eric's point, code enforcement to make sure that that's brought up to 310 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,440 standard. So, I don't think that's something that as a planning commission 311 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:56,640 we need to necessarily um worry ourselves with necessarily. I I 312 00:23:53,760 --> 00:24:02,880 am a little concerned that to Cody's point, if if part of these if 313 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:08,799 this parcel sells, that really does make that a a a tough spot for that 314 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:14,799 restaurant right now. But I guess that's that's up to them. Um, and it really 315 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:20,240 isn't isn't the the role of the planning commission to to pre-negotiate that 316 00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:28,480 based on something that might happen in the future. So, 317 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:31,440 um, do we have public comment? Any comment from the developer, 318 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,039 sir? >> No. 319 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:41,679 » No. Okay. At this time, I'd like to request a motion for approval. 320 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:44,960 I'll make a motion for approval of the recommendation of the staff report. 321 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,840 Specifically, since they gave me language, I move that the planning 322 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:52,240 commission adopt a resolution finding that the project is exempt from SQA and 323 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,559 approve parcel map waiver 2601 subject to the findings and conditions of 324 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,559 approval contained in the draft resolution. 325 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,080 » I'll second >> Ferris 326 00:25:01,679 --> 00:25:03,760 » I. >> Heymon 327 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,240 » Iregan >> I 328 00:25:05,679 --> 00:25:09,679 » ruin >> I. 329 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:14,640 » Five eyes. Motion carries. Okay, we will go ahead and close the uh 330 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:20,240 public hearing and move on to discussion and other 331 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:29,000 action items. Um, this is committee assignments. 332 00:25:23,679 --> 00:25:29,000 » So, we have one vacancy 333 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:38,000 on committees um right now. 334 00:25:34,799 --> 00:25:42,080 Also, if anybody wants to move because there is infrastructure, economic 335 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:49,520 development and then quality of life. Um, the vacancy is on quality of life. I 336 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:52,840 am assuming that Breuan is able to fill that spot. 337 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,279 » Volunte. 338 00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:03,919 » So, that meeting is on the first Tuesday of the month at 5:30 p.m. and they meet 339 00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:05,200 over in the Ker McGee Center. Um, and then 340 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,919 » from here >> No, we're still here. 341 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,360 » Yeah. When when did we >> Their agenda says they're at the Kirby 342 00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:16,000 Center. So, >> but I will update that on my list. So, 343 00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:19,000 they meet in this room. >> Okay. 344 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:28,559 » And then I think we're good for now. That was it. Does anybody Everyone else 345 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:29,760 is good. No schedule changes. Good for now. 346 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:33,919 » Good for now. >> Okay. Thank you, Eric, for taking that 347 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,840 on. >> Happy to do it. 348 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:42,159 » Um, commissioner comments and committee reports. I have nothing to report and no 349 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:46,960 comments. >> I have nothing. 350 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,520 » I have nothing. >> Nothing to report. Infrastructure is 351 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,279 done until tomorrow. >> Very good. 352 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:58,080 » Uh, I have two things. Everyone, I wanted to uh make sure that a compliment 353 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:03,760 went out to the city uh for the work that's being done on uh the medians and 354 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:07,600 the trees. Um everything that we are continuing to do to improve the 355 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,120 appearance and quality of our community is always a positive and I think that's 356 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:15,039 a very good positive step forward. Um, second, I just want to echo my thanks 357 00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:18,720 and appreciation for the opportunity to serve uh the city again, and I look 358 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:24,240 forward to serving on quality of life and uh seeing us uh strive towards a 359 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:31,200 summer date that I look forward to seeing. 360 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:36,640 » Thank you. Staff items. Um, as you are probably already aware, 361 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:41,039 the um, state department of housing 362 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:47,840 community development, they did approve our housing elements. So, we now have a 363 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:54,640 certified housing element. Yay. Um, so the next thing is prepare yourselves for 364 00:27:50,559 --> 00:28:00,720 about 40 um, code amendments. Uh, you're welcome. We will try to do them as 365 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:05,200 as much as we cover, right? Because I don't want to just bring 40 to you in 366 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:12,080 one motion and there's not really any kind of discussion of but we will not 367 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,159 break them into 40 different meetings. Um 368 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,240 » how long do we have to put them in in effect by the 369 00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:19,200 » by January? >> By January. 370 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:21,440 » Okay. >> So 371 00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:26,080 » 10 10 a month for the next >> So just like right now. Um yes. and it 372 00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:31,679 just takes three meetings in six months to do it. 373 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:37,120 So, it should be fine. Um, and the next thing that you guys will 374 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:42,080 see will be um zone changes because we have a lot of zones that we have known 375 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:48,240 needed to be corrected. Um, so that will be coming now that our housing element 376 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:53,919 is adopted. Um the reason for holding off is the housing element includes the 377 00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:58,720 vacant sites. Um and also all of our figures for meeting the arena. So our 378 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:04,640 our regional housing allocation um is all based off of the zoning. Um we'll 379 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:09,200 still meet RENA. That's not there's things like professional office with 380 00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:14,720 apartments in it. Um which is fine because it is a conditional use. But the 381 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:18,799 the big problem is is when people try to purchase these things, they're not 382 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:24,240 necessarily financable or title doesn't want to do it. Um so it becomes an issue 383 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:29,600 when they are existing multifamily structures. There's no reason for the 384 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:35,520 zoning to stay professional office. Um some other things, there's things that 385 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:39,520 are in the flight path. Um and I had talked to the developer about 386 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:46,480 two years ago and so they were happy with the idea proposed. So, we'll see 387 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:52,000 that come. Um, and also potentially agricultural zone will change to match 388 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:58,799 the same zone as that property um that's out there on Brady, Mayan, Richest 389 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:05,520 Boulevard, and Los Flores because that is the um largest impact. Um, however, 390 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:09,760 due to state housing laws, when we downzone something, which that has to be 391 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:13,200 downzoned. Um, when we downzone something, we have to swap. So, we have 392 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:18,559 to make it up. Even though we far exceed our reena numbers, um, as far as 393 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:24,080 vacancy, we don't build to meet the reena numbers. So, we still have to 394 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:29,200 swap. So, I can't get rid of an estate lot and create what 395 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:32,880 essentially would be half the density um, without swapping for something else. 396 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,880 So that's where the professional office and all of those things that are kind of 397 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:42,399 corrections will come in handy in this process. So you will see that probably 398 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:47,279 at the beginning of next year um we'll get through the holidays. But I look 399 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:51,279 forward to everyone's input and if you have anything else that you and even the 400 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:57,120 public if you know of something you hear of something um and you're watching we 401 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:02,240 are you know looking at different sites. So, if there's something that you know 402 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:06,720 of that we may not um this will be more of a conversation. It'll be more 403 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,799 interactive. Um and we'll have more time to deal with that as well so that it 404 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:14,880 doesn't come as a surprise to any property owners. Um but that's it. 405 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:20,399 That's all I have. >> Thank you, Heather. 406 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:25,039 Anything from you gentlemen? All right. We will go ahead and adjourn 407 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:28,159 the meeting at 5:31. Thank you all. Thank you, sir.