[0:01] Good evening. We will go ahead and call
the meeting to order. It is uh 5:00 pm.
[0:06] Roll call.
>> Chairman Ferris
[0:10] » here.
>> Commissioner [clears throat] Haymon
[0:12] » here.
>> Commissioner Mont Dragon
[0:13] » here.
>> Commissioner Poxis
[0:14] » here.
>> For present. We have a quorum.
[0:18] » All right. If you all rise for the
pledge of allegiance, please.
[0:25] » Ready to begin. I pledge algiance to the
flag of the United States of America and
[0:31] to the republic for which it stands. One
nation under God, indivisible, with
[0:38] liberty and justice for all.
>> Thank you.
[0:47] I am requesting a motion um for approval
of the agenda.
[0:52] » So moved.
>> I'll second.
[0:54] » Ferris
>> I.
[0:55] » Haymon. I
>> M dragon
[0:57] » I
>> I
[0:59] » motion carries.
>> Okay. Um we are
[1:05] swearing in a new commissioner,
[1:10] » Mr. Bowen.
[1:22] Raise your right hand.
>> I state Oh, [snorts] sorry. I, Eric,
[1:30] » doly affirm affirm
>> that I will support and defend
[1:34] » that I will support and defend
>> the Constitution of the United States
[1:37] » Constitution of the United States
>> and the Constitution of the State of
[1:41] California
>> and the Constitution of the State of
[1:43] California
>> against all enemies
[1:45] » against all enemies,
>> foreign and domestic.
[1:48] » foreign and domestic.
>> That I will bear true faith and alian
[1:52] true faith and allegiance
>> to the Constitution of the United States
[1:56] » to the Constit Constitution of the
United States
[1:59] » and the Constitution of the State of
California.
[2:02] » Constitution of the State of California.
>> That I take this obligation free
[2:06] » that I take this obligation freely
>> without any mental reservation
[2:10] » without any reservation
>> or purpose of evasion
[2:13] » or purpose of evasion. and that I will
well
[2:16] » and that I will well
>> and faithfully discharge
[2:18] » and faithfully discharge
>> the duties upon which
[2:21] » the duties upon which
>> I'm about to enter
[2:23] » I'm about to enter
ma'am
[2:32] » thank you all thank you Eric
[2:36] um we will um make a motion to approve
the minutes at the next meeting
[2:42] um non-aggenda the public comments. Uh,
persons wishing to address the
[2:47] commission on matters that are within
the commission's jurisdiction and do not
[2:52] already appear on the agenda may do so
at this time. Pursuant to the Brown Act,
[2:55] the planning commission may not take
action on an item that that does not
[3:00] appear on this agenda. Oh, I'm sorry.
Speakers are limited to five minutes.
[3:03] The public comment section of the agenda
is limited to a total of one hour. Each
[3:08] speaker is asked to provide his or her
name.
[3:16] Hello there. My name is Kelly Betts.
Last Wednesday, the issue of backyard
[3:21] poultry was brought before the city
council and they agreed to add it to the
[3:24] agenda for discussion at a next city
council meeting. At the request of
[3:28] Councilman Blades, I am here today
before the planning commission to
[3:31] discuss the current municipal code and
possible amendments that could be made
[3:35] to accommodate backyard poultry
following a future decision by the city
[3:39] council. The current municipal code does
not contain any specific language as to
[3:44] the allowance or forbiddance of backyard
poultry in residential zoning. This lack
[3:50] of communication has led the public to
believe that poultry is allowed in
[3:53] Ridgerest, and countless citizens
already own backyard chickens, ducks,
[3:58] quails, and other birds.
Recent events have brought this into
[4:02] question as some residents have been
told that they must remove their birds
[4:06] from the pre premises without warning
and any chance of remediation.
[4:11] The current municipal code requires
cleanliness of all animal habitations
[4:15] regardless of species and it forbids
loud and continuous animal noises such
[4:20] as barking and crowing. I agree with
these requirements. However, this does
[4:24] not specifically say that backyard birds
are not allowed under any circumstance.
[4:29] even when cleanliness and noise are not
in question. I propose that we amend the
[4:34] current municipal code to include
allowances and limitations regarding
[4:37] poultry just as we have these
specifications for cats and dogs. I have
[4:42] taken an active part in community
discussion regarding this issue,
[4:45] including online and in person at
community events. I have personally
[4:50] spoken with hundreds of residents about
their thoughts on this issue. Our
[4:53] petition already has almost 400
signatures in only one week.
[4:58] The most common comment that I have
heard from residents is that they
[5:01] thought owning backyard chickens was
already allowed. Common concerns were
[5:06] that there should be limits to the
number of birds you can have and that
[5:08] roosters should not be permitted in
residential areas. I personally agree
[5:12] with this. My opinion and suggestion is
that a resident shall own no more than
[5:17] eight female chickens or four ducks and
no specified limit on quailes due to
[5:22] their very small size. This number is
based on the number of eggs that a
[5:25] typical family would need for personal
use and is based on the fact that chicks
[5:29] must be purchased in quantities of four
from local suppliers. I also suggest a
[5:34] ban on the commercial sale of eggs and a
complete ban of roosters in residential
[5:39] zones unless explicit permission is
granted from the city based on lot size
[5:44] and other requirements. I believe that
making these changes to the municipal
[5:47] code will save the time, money, and
resources of animal control and code
[5:52] enforcement officers by giving them
discretion to act on situations and
[5:57] complaints that actually constitute
animal care negligence versus having to
[6:02] respond to every tip that a chicken
simply exists. I would be happy to hear
[6:06] any concerns that you might have
concerning this request and will gladly
[6:10] respond with ideas on how to address any
potential conflicts. I respectfully ask
[6:14] that you begin looking into the current
civil code and contemplate ways that it
[6:18] could potentially be amended following a
decision decision by our city council
[6:23] members at a future city council
meeting. Thank you for your time.
[6:26] » Thank you.
[6:31] » Are we engaging questions or no?
>> No. Okay. Thank you.
[6:35] » Comment.
>> Any other public comment?
[6:42] Okay. Moving on, we will go ahead and
open the uh public hearing. This is an
[6:47] abatement of APN 34304234-0000-5,
[6:55] a consideration of an abatement to the
property due to buckled and obstructed
[7:00] sidewalks RMC 14-59
and 11-3
[7:06] uh 3C. Property owner uh Dan Wyn, APN
343 04234-0000-5
[7:17] staff report.
[7:27] Good evening. Tonight, I am requesting
approval to abate a buckled sidewalk and
[7:32] vegetation obstructing the sidewalk at
the intersection of East Church Avenue
[7:36] and South Lincoln Street. APN 343 042
34005.
[7:44] As you can see, this portion of the
sidewalk is entirely unusable, forcing
[7:48] pedestrians to step off of the sidewalk
and into the roadway to navigate around
[7:52] this obstacle, which is not only
dangerous, but may be difficult, if not
[7:56] impossible, for those with physical
limitations.
[8:00] Since the case was initiated on August
21st, 2025, I have made repeated efforts
[8:06] to contact the property owner. Six
notices have been mailed, three
[8:10] citations have been issued, and numerous
telephone calls have been placed. In
[8:15] addition, I've utilized multiple
available resources to research updated
[8:19] mailing addresses for the property
owner. Despite these efforts, I have
[8:23] received no response from the property
owner. Additionally, I've attempted to
[8:28] contact who is believed to be relatives
and associates of the property owner via
[8:32] phone. Unfortunately, many of these
telephone numbers were either
[8:37] disconnected, no longer belonged to the
intended individuals, or did not result
[8:41] in contact with anyone responsible for
the property.
[8:45] Based on these efforts, I believe every
administrative approach available to the
[8:49] city has been exhausted. With the
violations remaining uncorrected, we are
[8:54] requesting the removal and replacement
of the buckled portion of the sidewalk
[8:58] as well as the complete uprooting of the
tree to ensure that this issue does not
[9:03] occur again. With that, I'm available to
answer any questions you may have.
[9:10] » Thank you. Uh, commissioner comments,
Mr. Bruin, we'll start with you.
[9:15] » Uh, just this is actually we we had
trimmed this bush back previously before
[9:19] we started this abatement. Correct. And
it went through like a parks uh a
[9:24] streets maintenance trim back back in 23
I believe. Uh this this existed with the
[9:30] same lot. I'm just putting written that
on record that thank you guys for coming
[9:34] forward. Thank you. Very thorough
abatement, very thorough process, but
[9:38] this is not something that just came up
in 25. This person's ignored it for
[9:41] easily a good three to six years at this
point. Um and I applaud your efforts in
[9:46] getting it moving forward. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[9:52] I'm curious how many or how many years
the person has owned this lot. I'm
[9:57] assuming a very long time if we can't
get a hold of them.
[10:02] From what I from what I remember, I
believe it said as early as 2005.
[10:08] The property owner used to be a resident
of Ridgequest uh Rididgerest and
[10:12] obviously they are no longer. However,
they still do own this lot.
[10:18] I think what uh looking at especially
the picture that's on the screen there
[10:23] like it's not worn down. Obviously
there's not a lot of foot traffic or
[10:26] anything that uh because people can't
walk by there.
[10:30] » Uh not questioning your means and
methods and everything you did. I think
[10:33] you're all doing a great job, but I'm
just curious how many other parts of the
[10:36] sidewalk on vacant lots around the city
that might be damaged due to the
[10:41] earthquake
or old trees that used to be on
[10:45] properties. Um, so it almost it almost
seems like you're going to be chasing
[10:51] your tails for a very long time uh
around the city. So I'm curious if this
[10:55] is something that the public works
department can maybe go around and look
[10:59] and maybe
one week out of the year they go around
[11:03] and they try to do the best they can at
least on the brush. The cost of
[11:08] repairing sidewalks is expensive.
So [clears throat]
[11:12] on that note, we did talk, code
enforcement and I did talk previous to
[11:16] this on the state because we do have a
sidewalk survey that was done. So we
[11:21] know all of the sidewalks that need to
be repaired and as of
[11:26] this this year um they sent out
44 cases um that have had up to the 30
[11:35] days, right? So, [clears throat] there's
still more that are outstanding, but
[11:38] they haven't even had the notice for 30
days. So, out of those 44 cases, 30
[11:42] people have already fixed the sidewalks.
Um, the vacant properties, they are a
[11:48] continuous issue because people don't
live here. So, they may not even know.
[11:52] They don't know the sidewalks broken.
They don't know that the weeds are
[11:54] overgrown. But we have been working on
that for all of this year to get those
[12:01] trimmed and getting those uh property
owners, which has actually spurred them
[12:05] to decide whether or not they want to
continue keeping this property or
[12:08] whether they're ready to list it. So,
it's kind of advantageous to us to get
[12:12] them to pay attention to their property.
Um the abatement will be just to fix the
[12:17] sidewalk and remove that. It's not a
hugely costly thing, but it is costly to
[12:22] our community.
And hopefully we can get those that
[12:28] haven't responded, hopefully we can get
multiple of them together so that when
[12:31] we get people to go out and get fix
them, it could potentially lower the
[12:35] cost. And if memory serves me right,
especially for the residents, if uh they
[12:40] get a break on the permit for doing
this, right, since they've had a
[12:44] citation,
uh I don't think they pay full cost. I
[12:49] don't think it's a complete discount,
but they don't.
[12:52] » So, they do receive a discount on the
permits uh because it is a code
[12:56] enforcement case.
[13:00] » I didn't know you had a sidewalk survey.
So
[13:03] » yes,
>> I like it.
[13:05] » Our good our good packed volunteers.
>> That's all I have.
[13:12] » Um, so on the final abatement notice,
was that mailed or was that posted on
[13:16] the property?
>> This was mailed to the uh owner's
[13:19] mailing address on file.
>> Does it have to be posted on the
[13:22] property or
>> if if there was actually a structure on
[13:26] the property? Yes. However, this is a
vacant lot, so it is not required.
[13:32] Okay. Cuz I'm just thinking if we post
it [clears throat] in this case, it
[13:37] probably wouldn't make a difference, but
if you post it on the property, maybe
[13:39] there's a neighbor that knows or a
friend that drives by and sees it and
[13:44] could contact the owner. But I think
this is beyond that point at this point.
[13:48] Um, my other question is I see there's
like multiple pictures with different
[13:54] dates. Um, has the city done anything to
like warn the public, hey, there's a
[13:59] trip hazard. go around maybe like safety
cones, a sign.
[14:04] » Nothing that I'm aware of.
>> Okay. I think we should consider when
[14:08] it's like something like this that's
critical. Someone can just be walking
[14:12] down the street and trip. So, and code
enforcement sees it, maybe put out like
[14:17] a cone or even I mean even just trim the
tree back. It's you know just a pair of
[14:22] clippers. trim them back a little bit so
that it's not it's obviously a hazard,
[14:26] but if we can do something about it to
prevent an accident, we should.
[14:31] » Thank you.
[14:37] » Uh gentlemen in uh code enforcement. I
think you guys are doing a great job. I
[14:41] appreciate the uh the thoroughess of
your report. Provides a level of clarity
[14:46] that makes this side fairly easy. So,
thank you for for that. have a feeling
[14:51] you had a really good teacher. Um, we'll
take a public comment right now if we
[14:56] have any.
[15:00] No.
All right. At this time, I'd like to
[15:03] request a [clears throat] motion um to
approve this abatement.
[15:08] » All motion.
>> Second.
[15:11] » Ferris.
>> I
[15:13] » I
>> Mond Dragon
[15:16] » I.
>> Foxes.
[15:18] » I
>> bre
[15:19] » I
>> Five eyes. Motion.
[15:20] » You said Eric had to start there.
>> The new guy.
[15:24] » Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you, sir.
[15:29] » Thank you, Officer Capelli.
>> Uh
[15:34] brings us to parcel map uh waiver 26-01.
Uh Tvali Center. uh consideration of a
[15:42] parcel map waiver to subdivide two
parcels into three parcels zoned general
[15:47] commercial 1400 North Norma Street APN
419-020-41
[15:54] staff report. [clears throat]
>> So this is a parcel map waiver to divide
[15:59] the existing
uh parcel. This [clears throat] parcel
[16:03] is completely developed. So that's why
we do a parcel map waiver, not a track
[16:07] map um or a parcel map. all of the uh
infrastructure that serves this is
[16:12] already in existence. Um so this is on
North Norma Street. Um there's a gas
[16:19] station, the happy hours,
and a couple of other existing tenants.
[16:27] So this is how they're proposing to
divide this. So then you would have
[16:31] three separate parcels on here um for
tenants
[16:37] um for just the ease of dividing it.
It would also um include the CCNRs as
[16:46] usual for these where there is that
reciprocal access agreement for the
[16:50] different businesses and then it lays
out exactly who's responsible for which
[16:54] portions of the parking lot and stuff
like that. So that helps us with
[16:58] maintaining these things should they
become an issue in the future. The
[17:03] applicant is on the phone, so if we have
questions for him, you guys can reach
[17:08] out. Um staff is recommending that we do
this parcel map waiver. Um any
[17:13] questions?
[17:18] » I have one.
How are they handling the three parking
[17:22] spots at the intersection of the three
lots?
[17:28] It's uh if you look at line uh where the
we know this is the gas station, the
[17:34] office space and the the restaurant.
Those are the three, you know, complexes
[17:38] there. Um I can understand how they've
drawn the line uh in the north line um
[17:45] 0626 East. That's clearly the back of
the building. And I can see how they
[17:50] tried to create the um other subdivide
line, but it ends up subdividing
[17:55] uh slightly three parking spots on the
corner
[18:01] that technically fall within both parcel
three and parcel one. And I'm just
[18:07] curious if that those have been
designated for the the gas station,
[18:11] designated for the office building, or
has there been some discussion in terms
[18:14] of who has the uh maintenance and and um
towing rights and all the above for for
[18:20] those three spots?
[18:23] » So, the the developer or developers rep
is on the phone.
[18:29] » Yes. Um can you hear me?
>> Can you hear?
[18:32] » Yes, sir.
>> Um yeah, absolutely. the uh three
[18:35] parking spaces was given to parcel one
to accommodate the amount of square
[18:39] footage necessary for the parcel map
waiver. So the responsibility is on the
[18:45] uh mini mart or gas station that is
there uh in that partial one.
[18:51] » Thank you sir.
>> You're welcome.
[18:57] So based on the occupancy load of the
restaurant area, uh that building should
[19:04] have somewhere in the ballpark of 45 to
60 parking stalls. So you don't have
[19:10] anywhere near that. And
my understanding in this case, same
[19:16] owner, one parcel turning into three.
What happens when one of the parcels
[19:21] sells at some point? Maybe it's a year,
maybe it's a hundred years from now, but
[19:25] either or the new uh owner, if it were
to ever sell, now doesn't have the
[19:30] required parking spaces available. So,
in all honesty, the the parking section
[19:37] needs to be expanded for that uh
restaurant area to include a lot more
[19:42] parking spaces
because if that ever were to sell, it
[19:48] won't have the necessary amount that it
has. uh the three parking stalls for the
[19:55] um
gas station. Is there no parking stalls
[19:59] directly in front of the store? I'm
assuming no.
[20:01] » There is.
>> Okay.
[20:04] So, are the are those three in that
little bubble are those the ADA uh
[20:11] required parking spots?
>> No, those are in front of the store.
[20:15] » Okay. I will say the CCNR generally is
going to lay out the percentage that
[20:20] each parcel is responsible for. So that
and that will travel with the land that
[20:27] will not be struck and no matter how
this is sold and I have not personally
[20:31] seen the CCNRs. That's a Travis review,
not me. [clears throat] But we can make
[20:36] sure that the CCNRs does lay out that
they are responsible for
[20:41] the percentage that would meet the need
of that current use. But that doesn't
[20:45] mean it's always going to be that use.
[clears throat]
[20:48] But the whole the whole three parcels
are going to be responsible in some way,
[20:54] shape or form for the entirety of the
parking. So even though parcel 3 is
[20:58] heavy on the parking right now,
usually that reciprocal agreement is
[21:03] going to include what percentage they're
all. And so in the future, you know, if
[21:08] parcel 3 still owns, you know, still has
the major portion of the parking,
[21:13] they're going to negotiate with that
tenant based on what that tenant needs,
[21:16] right? So that's probably in the
tenants's lease. Um, that's how we've
[21:21] seen it in the past. So that could very
well be the case here, but I have not
[21:25] reviewed that document.
[21:29] Yeah, the the agreement's one thing, but
uh
[21:34] if it changes ownership, that agreement
doesn't has to be re rewritten and
[21:39] redone.
>> It would probably be in their lease
[21:42] because the CCNR will always stay
recorded with the the actual
[21:49] uh parcel map waiver. So on that parcel
map waiver, you'll see that CCNR, it's
[21:54] going to have that agreement no matter
how it changes hands. Um, but it would
[21:59] be, yeah, it would need to be negotiated
with them because that could not, that
[22:04] could not be a restaurant tomorrow and
then it could be an office and maybe
[22:08] that parking works. But whoever's
managing that property is going to have
[22:12] to determine the use for their tenants
and make them responsible for whatever
[22:16] portion of that parking lot as far as
repairs because the CCNRs is going to
[22:22] determine, you know, you're responsible
for 50% of the repairs or and they're
[22:27] responsible for 25, right?
But in our current in its current
[22:34] occupancy, how many parking spots should
that
[22:38] » I would have to know the size of the
dining room.
[22:40] » So it's uh one parking space per 300
square foot of dining. So not the whole
[22:46] building, just the dining.
[22:52] » Thank you.
>> But yeah, thank you.
[22:56] » Sure. Uh, no I don't have any questions.
I just what Cody was asking about the
[23:02] parking spots. So I hope they have a
good agreement so that uh if parcel 3
[23:09] ends up being empty and the other two
parcels have tenants then if the parking
[23:15] lot needs to be fixed or repairs done
that we don't get into a situation where
[23:20] well I don't have any tenants or in
income coming in so I'm not going to fix
[23:23] it. So, I hope there's something in
there that addresses that.
[23:27] » Okay.
[23:31] » All right. [clears throat] I think that
those would be addressed by the land
[23:35] owner, the landlord. And so, it really
isn't a and then Yeah. And then again,
[23:40] to Eric's point, code enforcement to
make sure that that's brought up to
[23:44] standard. So, I don't think that's
something that as a planning commission
[23:47] we need to necessarily
um worry ourselves with necessarily. I I
[23:53] am a little concerned that
to Cody's point, if if part of these if
[24:00] this parcel sells, that really does make
that a a a tough spot for that
[24:06] restaurant right now. But I guess that's
that's up to them. Um, and it really
[24:11] isn't isn't the the role of the planning
commission to to pre-negotiate that
[24:18] based on something that might happen in
the future. So,
[24:23] um, do we have public comment? Any
comment from the developer,
[24:30] sir?
>> No.
[24:32] » No. Okay. At this time, I'd like to
request a motion for approval.
[24:38] I'll make a motion for approval of the
recommendation of the staff report.
[24:43] Specifically, since they gave me
language, I move that the planning
[24:46] commission adopt a resolution finding
that the project is exempt from SQA and
[24:49] approve parcel map waiver 2601 subject
to the findings and conditions of
[24:53] approval contained in the draft
resolution.
[24:57] » I'll second
>> Ferris
[25:01] » I.
>> Heymon
[25:02] » Iregan
>> I
[25:05] » ruin
>> I.
[25:06] » Five eyes. Motion carries.
Okay, we will go ahead and close the uh
[25:12] public hearing
and move on to discussion and other
[25:16] action items. Um,
this is committee assignments.
[25:23] » So, we have one vacancy
[25:29] on committees um
right now.
[25:34] Also, if anybody wants to move because
there is infrastructure, economic
[25:39] development and then quality of life.
Um, the vacancy is on quality of life. I
[25:45] am assuming that Breuan is able to fill
that spot.
[25:53] » Volunte.
[25:56] » So, that meeting is on the first Tuesday
of the month at 5:30 p.m. and they meet
[26:01] over in the Ker McGee Center. Um, and
then
[26:04] » from here
>> No, we're still here.
[26:06] » Yeah. When when did we
>> Their agenda says they're at the Kirby
[26:09] Center. So,
>> but I will update that on my list. So,
[26:14] they meet in this room.
>> Okay.
[26:20] » And then I think we're good for now.
That was it. Does anybody Everyone else
[26:25] is good. No schedule changes. Good for
now.
[26:29] » Good for now.
>> Okay. Thank you, Eric, for taking that
[26:33] on.
>> Happy to do it.
[26:34] » Um, commissioner comments and committee
reports. I have nothing to report and no
[26:40] comments.
>> I have nothing.
[26:44] » I have nothing.
>> Nothing to report. Infrastructure is
[26:48] done until tomorrow.
>> Very good.
[26:51] » Uh, I have two things. Everyone, I
wanted to uh make sure that a compliment
[26:55] went out to the city uh for the work
that's being done on uh the medians and
[27:01] the trees. Um everything that we are
continuing to do to improve the
[27:06] appearance and quality of our community
is always a positive and I think that's
[27:08] a very good positive step forward. Um,
second, I just want to echo my thanks
[27:13] and appreciation for the opportunity to
serve uh the city again, and I look
[27:17] forward to serving on quality of life
and uh seeing us uh strive towards a
[27:22] summer date that I look forward to
seeing.
[27:26] » Thank you. Staff items.
Um, as you are probably already aware,
[27:34] the
um, state department of housing
[27:38] community development, they did approve
our housing elements. So, we now have a
[27:44] certified housing element. Yay. Um, so
the next thing is prepare yourselves for
[27:50] about 40 um, code amendments. Uh, you're
welcome. We will try to do them as
[27:58] as much as we cover, right? Because I
don't want to just bring 40 to you in
[28:02] one motion and there's not really any
kind of discussion of but we will not
[28:09] break them into 40 different meetings.
Um
[28:12] » how long do we have to put them in in
effect by the
[28:15] » by January?
>> By January.
[28:17] » Okay.
>> So
[28:19] » 10 10 a month for the next
>> So just like right now. Um yes. and it
[28:24] just takes
three meetings in six months to do it.
[28:28] So, it should be fine. Um,
and the next thing that you guys will
[28:34] see will be um zone changes because we
have a lot of zones that we have known
[28:39] needed to be corrected. Um, so that will
be coming now that our housing element
[28:45] is adopted. Um the reason for holding
off is the housing element includes the
[28:50] vacant sites. Um and also all of our
figures for meeting the arena. So our
[28:55] our regional housing allocation um is
all based off of the zoning. Um we'll
[29:02] still meet RENA. That's not there's
things like professional office with
[29:07] apartments in it. Um which is fine
because it is a conditional use. But the
[29:12] the big problem is is when people try to
purchase these things, they're not
[29:16] necessarily financable or title doesn't
want to do it. Um so it becomes an issue
[29:22] when they are existing multifamily
structures. There's no reason for the
[29:25] zoning to stay professional office. Um
some other things, there's things that
[29:31] are in the flight path. Um
and I had talked to the developer about
[29:37] two years ago and so they were happy
with the idea proposed. So, we'll see
[29:41] that come. Um, and also potentially
agricultural zone will change to match
[29:48] the same zone as that property um that's
out there on Brady, Mayan, Richest
[29:56] Boulevard, and Los Flores because that
is the um largest impact. Um, however,
[30:02] due to state housing laws, when we
downzone something, which that has to be
[30:07] downzoned. Um, when we downzone
something, we have to swap. So, we have
[30:11] to make it up. Even though we far exceed
our reena numbers, um, as far as
[30:16] vacancy, we don't build to meet the
reena numbers. So, we still have to
[30:21] swap. So, I can't get rid of
an estate lot and create what
[30:26] essentially would be half the density
um, without swapping for something else.
[30:31] So that's where the professional office
and all of those things that are kind of
[30:34] corrections will come in handy in this
process. So you will see that probably
[30:40] at the beginning of next year um we'll
get through the holidays. But I look
[30:45] forward to everyone's input and if you
have anything else that you and even the
[30:49] public if you know of something you hear
of something um and you're watching we
[30:55] are you know looking at different sites.
So, if there's something that you know
[30:58] of that we may not um this will be more
of a conversation. It'll be more
[31:04] interactive. Um and we'll have more time
to deal with that as well so that it
[31:08] doesn't come as a surprise to any
property owners. Um but that's it.
[31:13] That's all I have.
>> Thank you, Heather.
[31:17] Anything from you gentlemen?
All right. We will go ahead and adjourn
[31:22] the meeting at 5:31. Thank you all.
Thank you, sir.