>> good evening, everybody.
I would like to get the meeting
started.
if you take your seats.
welcome to the april 8th,
2025, planning and zoning board
meeting.
at this time I would ask you all
to silence your electronic
devices.
can you hear me?
okay.
at this time I would like to ask
everyone to silence electronic
devices while attending the
planning and zoning meetings.
for the record, I will take roll
by calling each planning and
zoning board member's name. Please
acknowledge your presence by saying present
>> scottie richardson.
>> present.
>> kevin kofchur.
>> present.
>> robert gabaldon.
>> present.
>> andrea hankins.
>> present.
>> lisa hardisty.
>> present.
>> salvatore tortorici.
>> present.
>> we have a quorum.
at this time I would like
I'd like to ask everybody to please
join me and stand and say the
pledge of allegiance.
[pledge of allegiance]
>> okay at it time on the agenda
I will entertain a motion to
approve the consent calendar.
there will be no discussion
unless board members so requests,
in which an item is moved to the
discussion item on the regular agenda.
so, a motion to approve the
consent calendar.
I would ask the commissioners to
identify yourself before you
make the motion so that the
recording secretary can get it
right.
>> mr. Chair.
commissioner richardson.
approve.
>> okay.
do I have a second.
>> commissioner gabaldon,
second.
>> a motion and a second.
any discussion?
call the roll.
>> vice chair richardson.
>> yes.
>> commissioner kofchur.
>> yes.
>> chairman radosevich.
>> yes.
>> commissioner gabaldon.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hankins.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hardisty.
>> yes.
>> commissioner tortorici.
>> yes.
>> motion passes.
moving on staff presentation report.
we have planning and zoning monthly
building activity report and planning and
zoning monthly summary plat report.
anything else, anything else to
add?
>> mr. Chair, these are your
regular monthly reports.
these are non action items.
I will stand for any questions.
>> thank you.
okay public hearings.
this meeting is going to be
focused on the old golf course.
two items being reviewed
tonight.
the chamisa hills master plan
and the associated zone map
amendment for the property.
the hearing is being held in
accordance with the board,
commissions, committees and
advisory boards procedures.
that can be found on the website
under boards and commissions.
strict decorum will be enforced
please reframe from clapping,
cheering, booing or other
disruptive behavior.
everyone who wishes to speak on
this item should of submitted a
completed oath before 6:00 p.m.
if you have not signed up please
do so and bring it to the
recorder on my left.
okay.
forms can be found at the middle
table in the front.
for those wishing to speak
on-line please send a message to
the staff and indicate if you
will speak for or against the
items.
once staff starts presenting the
items registration will be
closed.
the schedule for tonight's meet
south staff will present on both
items at once followed by a
presentation by the applicant.
after the presentations I will
call for a motion and then we
will start the comment period.
please provide your comments for
both items at the same time.
this will allow us to take into
account all comments to one time
prior to voting on the items.
the comment period will be
broken into two groups.
those in favor of the items and
those opposed.
there will be two separate votes.
this will not be the last step.
no matter the outcome of this
meeting tonight the meeting will
be held by the governing body on
may the eighth for final
approval.
please limit your comments to
two minutes.
the recording secretary will be
taking time.
when the beeper sounds please
wrap up.
we have a lost people registered
to speak.
to make sure everyone is heard
we need to keep it to two
minutes.
for those who signed up to speak
you should have received notice
for tonight's meeting or have a
direct interest or property
right that is affected by the
decision being considered by the
board.
your interest must be an
immediate and substantial
consequence of the decision and
not merely a nominal or remote.
if you have submitted written
comments prior to 4 pm today the
board has those comments in
their packet.
in the interest of time I
suggest you don't repeat written
comments.
please keep your comments
addressed to the board.
this is not a back and forth
conversation.
so the questions will not be
answered during the public
comment.
but the board may ask either
staff or the applicant to
address questions during the
discussion portion of the
meeting.
once the public comment period
is closed the discussion from
the board has begun there will
be no further comments or
questions taken from the public.
once again this will not be the
last step.
the board is making a
recommendation and not a final
decision on the items.
no matter the outcome of the
meeting both items will be heard
by the governing body on may the
eighth.
>> okay item number 4 master
plan.
applicant rr mesa llc through
their consensus planning, inc.
agent request approval of
chamisa hills master plan for
the property legally described
as chamisa hills country club
parcels 2, 3, and 5.
chamisa hills country club west
track a.
chamisa hills country club north
parcel 2, rembla at calle suenos
track 2. Staff contact is michelle.
castilla and staff recommends the
planning and zoning board recommend
approval to the governing body.
michelle.
>> mr. Chair this is
commissioner gabaldon.
>> yes, commissioner, go ahead.
>> so, prior to the presentation
I need to state to the chair and
members of the board that due to
the fact I own two single family
homes in the affected area
touching the golf course
property tonight considered
tonight in items four and five
that I will be abstaining from
the agenda items as well as the
decision making and discussion
that goes with any debate,
deliberation, voting.
my request is to leave the
meeting immediately upon making
this statement.
so.
>> okay.
>> any questions?
>> thank you, commissioner.
>> mr. Chairman.
>> yes.
>> commissioner tortorici.
I will also recuse myself from
tonight's deliberations.
>> okay, thank you both
commissioners.
at this time, michelle, it's up
to you.
>> good mr. Chairman and members
of the board.
michelle castilla.
planner with the city of rio
rancho.
I will be presented items four
and five together for the
chamisa hills master plan and
zone map amendment.
however these items will be
voted on separately by the
board.
the subject property is
approximately 281 acres located
towards the southern part of the
city.
commonly known as the golf
course further
described as the north nine,
west nine, and east nine.
the property discontinued as a
functioning golf course and was
eventually shut down in 2016.
the city approved a zone map
amendment for the property on
april 18th, 2018 under
ordinance number 4, enactment 18 06.
changing the zoning from special
use for golf course to special
use for planned residential
development.
on august 7, 2024 the chamisa
master plan and zma applications and
submittals were received by the
development serves department.
the 2018 zoning ordinance
specified the proposed plan use
and development standards and
design including access and
landscaping.
it also had a section for
implementation and process which
require the submission
of a master plan and list of
master plan requirements.
other requirements restrictions
included notification fees, out
parcels not to be considered,
reclaimed water usage, and open
space construction schedule.
development was not carried out
under the specifications at this
ordinance.
the applicant zone map mod my
cation request seeks to modify
upon the prior zoning and
existing ordinance used by staff
for a reference for the proposed
zoning ordinance.
staff finds that the proposed
density is similar to existing
zoning and compatible with the
surrounding residential
development.
the north line area is currently
designated at su for prd.
recreation for open space for
park.
open space and drainage.
proposed zoning is os open space
which is similar land use.
the east nine is currently zoned
for su for prd.
recreation and open space.
single family residential.
the proposed zoning is os open
space r3 single family residential
and c1 retail commercial.
some of the open space will
remain as a zoned as single
family residential.
additional r3 proposed to the
east of the existing single family
residential and also to the west
adjacent to the proposed mua
zoning.
c1 zoning proposed for the east
end envisioned to be a spa scale
business complex.
the west nine area is currently
designated su for prd.
-- recreation and open space and
single family residents.
the proposed zoning is r4 single
family residential.
although the entire area is
proposed as r4 the provided lay
out in the master plan is
similar to the existing zoning
for the lots and open space to
be located.
also unit caps for each area in
the proposed ordinance.
the central portion of the golf
course is currently designated
as su for prd commercial.
the proposed zoning is mua mixed
use activity center.
a similar land use with the
intent of blending residential,
civic and office uses in close
proximity to each other.
the master plan is made up of
several distinct development
areas.
the develop areas include the
west nine to be known as lux
view estates.
the north nine to be known as
east view heights open space.
and the east nine to be known as
nueva esperanza, vita moderna
and sierra vista all zoned r3 mixed
residential and chamisa hills
business parks zone c1.
la jolla de rio rancho located
in zone mua.
lux view estimates will be
developed in the former west
nine area of the golf course.
it will consist of 110 lots.
it's approximately 74 acres and
will be zoned r4.
there will be 1.24 areas of
acres of open space that will
serve as buffer areas between
the new homes and surrounding
residential and maintained by
it's own private residential
home owners association.
the former east nine area of the
golf course will be three
distinct neighborhoods all zoned
r3.
sierra vista is a senior
community that will consist of
38 lots.
this area will be within walking
distance to the la jolla de rio
rancho center with trail
connections.
there will be 0.43 acres of open
space that will be maintained by
it's own private hoa.
vita moderna will consist of 70
lots. There will be 0.79 acres of
open space separating from the adjacent homes
and governed by a private hoa.
staff finds the acquisition of
city property is the only way
for the planned access to work in
this area.
this will require city review
and approval for the
reconfiguration of the drainage
access and current city
ownership.
nueva espironza will consist of
84 town homes.
it's the residential community
located farthest east.
partially surrounding the
islands community.
there will be 0.8 acres of open
space again governed by a
private hoa.
there are two distinct
commercial areas proposed in the
master plan.
chamisa hills business park is
approximately 6 acres located at
the east portion of the golf
course.
this is proposed to be a small
scale business complex zoned c1.
it will be governed by a private
commercial business association.
la jolla de rio rancho is
17 acres.
centrally located within the
golf course.
access will be allowed north to
south through the center but the
road will be designed for slow
speeds.
this area will be zoned mua and
also governed by a private
commercial association.
the east view heights open space
encompasses the old north nine
portion of the old golf course.
it is approximately 62 acres.
the master plan states this area
will receive trail and landscape
improvements.
estimated at $400,000.
through a financial guarantee in
the form of a 5 year bond.
it also mentions that if the
funding is not secured from
other monetary sources in the
five years the bonding will be
used as the primary funding
source for improvements with the
cost not exceeded $400,000.
staff finds the proposed amount
may not cover the necessary cost
of the open space improvements.
the proposed zoning ordinance
will require the landscape
development rehabilitation and
revegetation plan of the open
space areas shall address the
current conditions and ability
of the open space to include
seeding, planting, and water
maintenance until all natural
vegetation is established.
additionally environmental site
assessment will be submitted to
prior to or in connection with
the land use applications for
all phases of development.
staff finds that the dedication
and future ownership of this
area remains uncertain.
a requirement dictated by the
proposed zoning ordinances that
the land developer must
establish and a identify the
ownership or non profit
organization prior to sale of
any lots.
there is to system proposed to
restrict access to those not opt
to join the master hoa.
that may lead to complications
with the adjacent residents.
the proposed ordinance will be
require a pedestrian access
management plan established for
open spaces to address how
access will be regulated.
staff also finds that the given
lot counts may not in the long
term be able to support
respected residential hoas and
master hoa for the proposed
acreage, reoccurring maintenance
cost and improved requirements
for the mentions areas. A dedicated
park of approximately 11 acres is
proposed in the master plan.
the park is described as open
grass space with interior trails
and various amenities.
staff finds proposed amenities
for a park this size may not
meet the required elements as
outlined by the development
process manual.
a requirement states that the
park shall meet the requirements
has been included in the
proposed ordinance.
the dedication and future
ownership of this area remains
uncertain.
a requirement dictated by the
proposed zoning ordinance is
that the land developer must
establish and identify the
owner, association or nonprofit
corporation prior to the sale of
any lots.
based on staff review it appears
feasible to approve the
applicants request and zone map
amendment given that all
requirements addressed in the
zoning ordinance are met along
with any staff comments that
have not yet been addressed
including the red line of the
master plan.
key factors that should be
especially considered are open
space, the park, access and
governance.
staff feels the main areas of
concern can be addressed through
the red lines provided by staff.
through the regulations,
conditions and standards drafted
into the zoning ordinance which
is more detailed than the
typical ordinance.
staff .therefore recommends
planning and zoning board
recommend approval to the
governing body of the chamisa
hills master plan with zone map
amendments findings and
conditions.
with that I will stand for any
questions.
>> thank you, michelle.
amy.
>> mr. Chair, we had a lot of e-mail
comments in the packets.
I wanted to address those before
we get going.
I have a couple of click slides
I want to run through.
let's see if it, oh -- .
seeing this from the distance.
bare with me.
>> so the first thing we want to
talk about is notifications.
so the first slide that I have
up here is from the development
process manual the dpm.
in this situation it has general
information and guidance on
notifications.
>> if you see in the red circle
I have here the last sentence of
the red circle talks about that
reaching out to dsd staff about
specific information related to
notification requirements.
everything below it is our
general standards.
there are each with individual
standards.
when we get into our municipal
code.
this is from our city municipal
code chapter 150 we have a
breakdown of applications and
procedures.
we have our zone map amendments
and master plan.
for zone map amendments we
follow state statute.
I want to point out the
governing body that you have
previously mentions.
this is a recommending body for
the final decision for them to
make.
there are a lot of other items
the planning zoning board is the
final decision maker just not
this situation.
I want to focus on section b is
the next part I want to talk
about and then making sure we
are publishing our notice 15
days prior to the hearing.
so when we are handling that one
we are looking at our legal ad.
our legal ad is something we run
in the albuquerque journal it
has a sigh circulation in the
city of rio rancho.
we find it's a good newspaper
for to us run the legal ads.
it was ran march 24th, 2025.
the next section talks about you
will see I skipped a sentence.
that was talk ing about rezoning
something smaller than a block.
we are rezoning something larger
than a block.
so we are looking sure to make
sure our noticed are made first
class mail to the owners.
as shown on record with the
county treasurer.
we don't include right of way.
we are looking a hundred feet in
our, from the boundary, from the
property line, excuse me of,
what is being proposed for the
zoning change.
and then we do have -- let me go
back.
one of the things I wanted to
note at the bottom of this one
we had 685 letter noticed s
mailed out march 17th.
of those 685, 107 were returned.
that takes us to the next
portion of state statute so that
would be the last line of
section b.
that talks about if we do have
returned letters or something
that is undelivered then we have
to work at finding the most up
to date address and send out a
second notification via
certified mail.
so we have sent out 108
certified letters.
45 of those, of those we have
received the little green card
that comes back with the
signatures.
so we just wanted to talk
through, I wanted to talk
through just those notification
that's have been mailed out.
along with the fact that we did,
for the requirement of the city
municipal code have signage
placed on the property.
so we gave nine signs to the
applicant to put up around the
property as many locations as
possible to get again an extra
level of notification out to the
public.
the next section we want to talk
about, when we talk about --
bear with me.
sorry.
the clicking back and forth.
one of the other things on the
signs that came up is that there
was concern this was being fast
tracked because of the fact that
on the signage that we put the
governing body meeting date.
this is for larger items.
when we have items going to be
governing body and planning and
zoning board is not the final
decision maker we want to make
sure to get out the information
as early and as to as many
people as possible.
we put these on the notice
signs.
one of the other things to note
is that in state statute there
is no requirement for us to do
the notice signs.
this is only in city code.
it's only required in front of
the planning and zoning board.
there is no other signage that
will go up on the property prior
to the governing body meeting.
this is the one chance to get it
out on the signage.
we thought it was a good way to
get the information out there.
it is also very typical for us
to schedule, I'm sorry to
schedule the governing body
meeting one month after the
planning and zoning board
meeting.
that's the general scheduling
rotation as we move through to
make sure we meet all
notification requirements.
one thing I want to talk about
too tonight is if there are no
changes in the applicant's
request or applicant this is
scheduled for may 8th.
if there are substantial changes
to the application we will look
for a postponent so we're able
to review the changes before and
bring it back to the planning
and zoning board for a full
review before it moves onto the
governing body.
the last two things here.
I have a section here for the
new mexico state statutes open
meetings.
so when we look at open meetings
what we have to make sure is the
agenda needs to be posted 72
hours prior to the meeting.
so, we actually aim to post our
agendas at least a week in
advance.
this one we have public comments
it was posted wednesday.
well within the 72 hours, well
before that.
so I wanted to address some of
those comments that we had
already seen and address those
early to focus on the items
themselves this evening.
>> thank you, amy.
at this time is the applicant
present.
and have a presentation.
>> thank you.
[inaudible]
>> does this work better?
okay.
alright.
I can do this.
I have to use both hands on the
clicker.
once again -- planning
representing the project and a
long time coming I think the
master plan to redevelop the
former golf course properties.
I do have a presentation.
I will try to go through it as
quickly as I can.
get this cued up.
there we go.
here here to talk about the
master plan.
-- the audience.
alright.
so first of all let's talk about
the project team.
so steve chavez is the property
owner with rr mesa llc.
we have myself, michael wright
with consensus planning for
designing.
community design solutions are
the civil engineers for the
project.
sheldon greer is here, lead
civil engineer on the project.
fbt architects prepared a lot of
the master plan, design
guidelines, and the sketches.
the wonderful sketches in the
document.
some of the character studies
done for the project were done
by fbt architects.
harry relkin son line helping us
with government issues.
kim murphy with altura real
estate llc is on-line.
and tierra west has done the
traffic management report.
I believe that terry brown
should also be on-line relative
to the project team.
a be in of neighbor hood
associations impact the project.
I won't speak for them.
they are here in the room and
on-line this evening.
alright.
a little bit of history.
as I mention this has been a
long time coming to get to this
point.
we have the north 9 closed in
2013, a long time ago.
the balance of the course closed
in 2014.
club house fire in 2019.
that fire occurred in the club
house building was raised at
that point.
the property cleaned up.
the master plan, there was an
attempt for a first master plan
denied in 2020.
ownership changed, mr. Chavez
purchased the property in 2022.
what is the master plan.
the master plan.
I want to make sure I know for
the commissioners, you all
understand this, obviously staff
does.
for the folks in the audience.
so maybe part of answering what
is the master plan is what is it
not.
the master plan establishes a
framework.
it is an aspiration al document.
it takes the city's
comprehensive plan and those
goals and policies and tries to
translate that into a project
specific area.
in this case the area that was
formerly the golf course
property.
establishes design standards,
anticipated product types,
density, and what it does not do
is prepare subdivision plats or
site plans that are required in
order to actually do any
development within the master
plan area.
so, once again the master plan
creates that framework.
creates the aspiration al
aspects of the project so that
when future site plans and
subdivision plants come through
the process they are judged
against whether or not they meet
the standards and the goals
established with the master
plan.
so we identify a number of new
development areas within this
property.
the residential we have the lux
vista.
the single family area the
former west 9.
we have vida m. Sierra vista
over fifty five adult community.
we have nueva e that is single
family.
this project would allow single
family homes to develop in
portions of what was the golf
course fairways.
the town center is the former,
the area that was the golf club
house.
this is mixed muse.
this is important.
this area is designed to be a
gathering space, a focal point
for the community and around a
public plaza.
we have worked with the city of
rio rancho staff to make sure,
one of the issues that happened
when we first started the
project was connecting the north
and south fairways would this be
a thoroughfare that would be a
problem for the community.
you can see from the plan that
basically you come in, if you
come from the south you hit the
public plaza.
it's a one way street around the
plaza.
there is on-street parking
throughout the town center.
it's really designed to be a
place where like if you tried to
go through here to get
north/south as a shortcut you
would quickly realize it's a
shortcut that takes a long time
to get through.
the speed limit will be low.
it's not a fast route.
that's by design.
we want people to come into the
town center, park once, go to
several things.
designed for retail shops,
coffee shops, restaurants,
public plaza, a gym, some minor
residential duplexes on the
north end and second story
residential is one of the goals
for the town center.
so we actually have a place
where people live, work, shop,
and play at the same place.
I will talk a little about the
public part later on in the
presentation or the neighbor
hood park that's adjacent.
we plan for the parking of the
town center for the park.
we don't want to use valuable
park space for parking be want
to share with the park center.
that's a goal for this area as
well.
sketches.
we anticipate multi story
buildings in this area.
two and three stories.
capture views and provide the
focal point the heart of the
community.
there is also a new proposed
business center located on the
east end of the project.
that has excellent access to
high resort boulevard and new
mexico 528.
we anticipate single story
offices, medical offices,
presbyterian facility is already
located adjacent to the
property.
a pharmacy and other service as
associated with that area.
this is a site plan that shows
how you could access that
property and get access to
parking and the significant
buffer between this development
and residents next door.
so the east view heights, the
former north nine is designated
to be open space.
and no development is allowed to
take place in that area.
it will be maintained as open
space with walking trails for
residents.
the goal is structured in the
master plan is hopefully to find
either a local government entity
that would take that over for
the long term or a non profit
for that open space.
we feel strongly that's the best
long term solution for the area.
since there is no new
development going in, in that
area.
so it's disconnected, if you
will, from the rest of the
project.
zoning, I'm skipping that to
talk about access.
one of the unique things about
the project.
it's a former golf course and
it's basically fairways that
extend throughout the different
neighborhood areas.
the access into the different
portions of the development come
from different streets,
different traffic patterns.
that's why we did, worked with
the city staff for the traffic
management plan that is in as an
appendix in the document looking
how the traffic is distributed
around the community.
we felt that was really
important.
I want to be clear part of the
city of rio rancho development
process is that detailed traffic
impact studies are done at the
time of site plan or subdivision
plats.
so those would be reviewed and
that detailed traffic study
would happen at that time if the
city warrants a scale of
development as needing to have
that done.
the report in the study looks at
traffic system wide.
how does it get into the area,
streets used and making sure we
didn't overload the existing
streets and street network as
part of the project.
trails.
there is a combination of multi
use trails and walking paths.
it's anticipated they would be
pressure pine, soft surface and
provide access throughout.
one of the things when we talk
about the open space and trails
is there is the development
areas and the individual hoas.
when one of those developments
takes place the construction and
implementation of the open
space, landscape, trails will
take place associated with each
of the individual neighborhood
developments that take place.
so there is a portion that had
open space that is attached to
each of those new neighborhoods
that would come on-line when
they development.
that would be part of the
individual hoa.
as mentioned in the staff's
presentation there is an
anticipated over arching master
hoa that makes sure the hoas
are talking to each other and
the over all maintenance and
implementation of the open space
and trails occurs in a
consistent manner throughout the
project.
it's important to know they're
for the individual hoas that
come on-line.
this is a graphic that shows the
trails.
along the west nine, buffer
along the perimeter including
walking trails.
the multi use trail basically
gets you through the
neighborhood park, into the town
center, and then from the town
center out to high -- boulevard
and the business area at the
east end of the project.
then individual walking paths
would be developed in the
various neighborhoods in
addition to that.
the idea is there is master
association and then individual
associations.
the la jolla rio rancho is the
town center with a commercial
property a zone responsibility
for the maintenance of the plaza
and private parks on the entry
of the north end, as well as the
interior street system.
those will be private.
that is done because we really
want to make sure the speed
limit is very low.
it will be restricted within
that area and the same with the
chamisa hills.
this is a park that is more
traditional office development
area.
that would have it's own
commercial property and
association responsible for the
maintenance of the open space
associated with those projects
as well.
you can see the various hoas
identified.
think of these as bulk tracks
that would be created and sold
to the individual developments.
they would be then responsible
for their associated open space
and portions of the trail
network.
zoning done for the project with
the prd, there were agreements
made.
the intent is to honor the
agreements.
so the west nine where it says
r4 the settlement agreement
delineates that's to be
developed r1 standards, single
story.
specifies 65-foot wide buffer on
the perimeter.
those agreements will be honored
with the future development of
that area as well as the sort of
central point with this, the
vida m. Sub did I commission
developed with r2 standards.
it says I r3.
those are lot width and a height
limit associated with that.
alright.
so, the master plan, once again
this, this graphic is aspiration
al we feel that the lay outs and
they're something that works.
community design solutions,
civil engineers, do the
individual layouts.
a lot of work in the city of rio
rancho and understand the
subdivision and platting
process.
but anything shown on here is
pure aspiration al.
coordinating with the city staff
if traffic impact studies are
required, grading, design,
drainage, utility planning.
awful that is done during
preliminary and final plats.
same with the commercial areas.
those are subject to a site
plan.
the site plan has to be done and
reviewed and approved by the
city prior to building permits
for that area as well.
those areas as well.
this is an annotated version
where I noted the restrictions
earlier.
the lot development standards,
height limits and buffer
requirements that are noted as
part of those specific areas.
with that thank you very much.
I know a lot of people are here
to speak as well.
I am available to answer
questions.
if there are hard questions I
will farm those off to others on
the project team.
any easy ones I'm happy to
address with.
that thank you very much for
your time this evening.
we appreciate and we're excited
to see this project before you
this evening.
there has been a lot of work
that has gone into getting it to
this point.
I'm somema sorry it's taken as
long as it has to get to this
point.
we feel good we have a master
plan and document that we feel
very good about and we think
aspiration alley it sets the
right tone for what could and
should happen with these
projects.
with that thank you.
>> thank you, jim.
so, next, the way we will
conduct this is entertain a
motion to approve the master
plan.
we always make a motion in the
affirmative.
after we have a motion and a
second then we will open it up
for discussion.
and again I will ask everyone to
keyed comments addressed to the
board.
this is not a back and forth
conversation.
your questions may or will not
be asked during the public
comment.
the board may ask either staff
or the applicant to address
questions during the discussion
portion of the meeting.
once the public comment period
has closed and discussion of the
board has begun no further
comments or questions will be
taken from the public.
once again it's not the last
step.
the board is making a
recommendation and not a final
decision.
both items will be heard by the
governoring body on may 8th.
at this time I would like to
enter tan a motion to approve
item number 4, master plan.
>> motion to approve.
>> a motion, richardson.
a second.
>> commissioner hankins, I will
second.
>> a motion and a second.
at this time we will, staff will
call the people up for -- we
will call people up in favor
first.
you will have two or thee
minutes.
state your name, council
district.
>> tim burkey.
>> scott e.
>> okay.
seeing no other comments in
favor.
we will now move onto those
opposed.
>> thomas wright.
>> thomas wright district 4 --
[not able to hear clearly]
I have the proof here
concerning the master plan and
mostly -- hoa and the 110 homes.
we're not included.
we have never been talked to by
anyone concerning this plan.
we have been ignored once again.
we are totally surrounded by
this plan.
one hundred percent.
the pond remediation is not
complete.
our property adjacent to the
pools haven't been repaired.
our property markers have been
destroyed.
we request inclusion and
participation by mr. Chavez and
rio rancho to make sure -- our
hoa4 controlling the property
totally surrounding us.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> michael farrell.
>> I can't hear him.
[can not hear speaker]
>> mr. Chair, I don't know.
I think I will leave that to
your discretion.
>> you have two minutes to speak
if you would like.
>> hello, can you hear me okay.
how about now?
okay.
good evening.
thank you my name is doctor
matthew brady h.
I'm a new resident to rio
rancho.
I want to second the statement.
we were not well informed of
this at all in my opinion.
beyond this, that open space
means a lot to the people in
that area.
people play there.
people walk there.
part of the reason people have
purchased these properties in
the first place is for the view
of our beautiful mountains, of
our beautiful city.
this project will ruin that.
this project in my personal
opinion degrade home values.
I don't see it being a good long
term invest ment for the city.
it's certainly not a good
investment for the residents
that live there.
I don't think this will engender
feelings of trust or faith in
our city if this just goes
through the way it's been going.
thank you, have a great evening.
I appreciate the opportunity to
speak.
>> thank you for your comments,
sir.
>> jason foster.
>> thank you, commissioners.
I appreciate letting us know
that everyone was notified
correctly.
when I asked yesterday how I was
notified correctly.
she ignored me.
I assume her answer this evening
is my response which is how was
I notified?
I never received first class
mail.
I never received a certified
letter.
she informed me that her, my
mail was on her desk with
someone else's name.
the sandoval county is able to
give me a property tax bill
every single year.
so I'm not understanding how the
city can not take that same
document that sandoval county
uses to provide me with mail.
I haven't been notified.
this hearing shouldn't happen.
there are dozens of others that
haven't been notified.
until they were notified
socially per state statute this
hearing shouldn't of happened.
in terms of mr. Strozers'
comments purely illustrative and
aspiration al.
that sounds like when your
parents gave you a big box at 8
years old.
you asked for an rc toy and you
opened it up and there were
socks.
this is shining wrapping paper
filled with coal.
they haven't demonstrated any of
this stuff can be done.
I understand y'all will approve
it later on we will hope some
engineering study comes out they
can do it.
the problem I have is y'all
won't put restrictions on the
new zoning changes.
it won't allow mr. Chavez to
essentially sell off parcels to
the highest bidder to make a ton
of money.
thank you, very much.
>> thank you for your comments,
sir.
>> michael --
>> I have a couple of comments
my name is michael k.
>> if you state your name and
address please.
>> getting ready to do that.
my name is michael k.
I live at 3469calle -- I'm a
member of the north nine
neighborhood board and
association.
I would like to make two points.
first I do not believe the
ordinance should be passed onto
the city council for approval.
the reason why I state this is
the master plan identifies three
distinct areas as open space.
while only 62 acres of east
views heights open space is
captured in the ordinance.
the zoning map shows an
additional 27 acres for the
nueva e community.
that acreage is not contained in
the ordinance.
there is also acreage for open
space associated with lux view
estate.
that is not in the ordinance
either.
now, we need to revies the
ordinance.
if you go to page 47 of the
master plan you will see that
these communities do have open
space identified.
all open space should be
codified in the ordinance to
prevent future development.
secondly, the master plan should
not be passed until a detailed
explanation of how the proposed
pid as part of the master hoa
will be executed and
implemented.
the residents of east view
heights should be included in
the thinking behind the pid.
now I will say that we as a
board did meet with steve on a
number of occasions.
five occasions.
the last meeting I believe was
in june of 2024.
we have had no discussions since
with conscience planning or
anyone else about the pid, about
the master hoa, etcetera,
through for letting me comment.
>> thank you for your comments,
sir.
>> wayne p.
>> good evening.
my name is wayne p.
I'm on the board of the north
nine neighborhood association.
I have lived on the north nine
for 22 years.
as such I attended three in
person meetings with mr. Chavez.
he made many assertions and
promises.
most of which that have not come
true.
instead of maintaining the north
nine in any order as he pledged
it's been turned into a speedway
for motorcycles, four wheelers,
cars and trucks.
the destruction the invaders
have denuded some sections.
we're left with a dust storm
that takes professional cleaning
to clean up.
we requested him place no
trespassing signs to stop some
of the idiot see.
this is what we got.
look at this.
postage stamps.
you tell me this is how someone
is going to maintain a property,
how can we trust this person at
a minimum raise that bond to 700
grand.
not a token 400.
you know.
I'm of the adage, I'm of the age
that I believe the proof is in
the pudding.
I have to tell you recently I
have listened to the shania
twain song "you don't impress me
much."
how can any of us trust a
developer who says they will do
something they can't keep up
simple maintenance.
but I'm also quite puzzled as to
how restrictions that were
placed on this master plan in
december of 2024 suddenly
disappeared.
maybe that's a question that a
jury of our peers will up matily
answer.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> david patterson.
>> hello.
my name is dave patterson.
I'm on the board of the enclave.
I appreciate your taking the
time to answer my questions or
hear from me.
it's more than the developer has
offered us.
we have had no contact with them
in order to help with the design
of this.
even though we are surrounded by
it.
first complaint would be the
zoning.
just this evening with the
presentation he says it's r4.
it's not really r4.
we're going to treat it as r3.
well if it says r4 on the
ordinance and the plan, then
that means r4 for who ever comes
behind them.
also the open space around our
community is listed as r4.
that means it can be developed.
in fact eluding on page 81 there
is a note that says the ponds
will be remediated in accordance
with epa.
thus clearing the way for more
development.
that needs to be indicated as
open space, zoned as open space,
so it can't be developed later.
we also have a note that says
emergency access.
now emergency access road has to
be 25 feet wide and support an
apparatus of 75,000 pounds
according to the state fire
code.
okay.
in order to do that where that
emergency access road comes
around on our property on west
island it would mean the
destruction of our island, our
sign, our water meter, our trees
that we have maintained and paid
for over the last 30 years in
order to put in a road for an
emergency access.
there are other alternatives.
I won't go into those now but
there are other alternatives
that need to be considered
before they destroy our
property.
on page 13 it states for the lux
view estates.
>> I'm asking to you wrap it up.
>> I'm wrapping up.
it states envision a new
residential neighborhood that
respects the past and embraces
the future.
the destruction of our sign and
entry way is not very respectful
of our past.
thank you.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> matt d.
>> everybody hear me.
commissioner, mr. Chairman, good
evening.
after reviewing the master plan
submitted by mesa I have listed
a few bullet points that I have
question that's need to be
addressed before accepted by
zoning and city council.
traffic issues.
first the additional homes.
east lake turning lanes on 52
can't absorb the traffic.
no way.
there are two to three areas to
turn.
in 2017 the city had a meeting
with the hoas and the
community to improve zoning on
st. Andrews.
why rezone additional land when
rio rancho mesa purchased.
drainage has not been accepted
by the flood august.
there is not enough access.
the new mexico environmental
division has not given clearance
on the ponds in the whole area.
after reviewing the master plan
rio rancho mesa has produced on
the cost of caring, maintaining,
the liability of new
subdivision.
400,000 won't be enough money to
landscape the trails and open
space.
after concerning, also
concerning is rio rancho mesa is
attempting to do a pid and tax
the hoas and existing home
owners in the government
cowering areas to pay for his
open space.
the citizens of rio, the city of
rio rancho has a responsibility
to protect citizens, the safety
of the citizens and subdivisions
after putting the additional
stress on our roads and schools.
they deserve equitable
servitude.
I'm against the zoning change.
I'm against multi family zoning
on the original golf course
that's mu.
I don't want multiple family in
there.
we request a full denial on
rezoning requests for two and a
half years he has not done what
he said woe do, has not
submitted an acceptable plan for
the government golf course and
open space.
why the city accommodate one
person.
>> I will ask to you wrap it up.
>> in my opinion he negatively
impacts all home owners
purchasing property on the golf
course in good faith.
the city needs to protect home
owners not a businessman looking
to make money and leave town.
[ applause ]
>> again I will ask people to
maintain and also have two
minutes.
I ask to limit remarks to two
minutes so everyone can speak.
>> anthony a.
>> good evening commissioners.
I would just like to speak upon
the open space.
funding and the maintenance
there of.
$400,000 not to exceed is
preposterous.
62 acres.
that's a little over 6 grand per
acre.
can you landscape your front
yard for six grand.
think not.
the other thing is the walking
paths are very close to other
homes.
there should be more of a buffer
zone and we shouldn't be asked
to pay for any pid or any hov
fees to use this.
in order to use this mr. Chavez
is stating that you have to be a
member of the hoa and pay hoa
fees to use the walking paths.
that's absolutely absurd.
absurd to the upmost.
I don't know about that.
where are the people that want
to walk going to park?
there will be people that live
in the community that need to
drive to, it's too far for them
to walk to use the walking
paths.
so, there are other ways to take
care of this.
further more mr. S. Says it will
be pressure pines.
well people don't even pick up
after their animals.
trash is all over.
who is going to maintain this.
the pines will be destroyed
immediately.
I have been in the property
management business for 50
years.
I have been on development teams
for cabazon, loma colorado, high
range and numerous others.
I have sat in one of those
chairs.
I don't think it's time to
recommend this to the governing
body.
by which the mayor has written a
proclamation of approval.
so I request the p&z postpone
this for another meeting.
let all of these people have a
chance to digest this.
so, I'm done with that.
but open space is really
important.
the funding and maintenance
there of is --
>> I will ask you to wrap it up.
>> can I drop the mic.
>> please.
thank you for your comments.
>> jack autry.
>> good evening, ladies and
gentlemen.
my name is jack autry.
I live at 3445calle s.
over 20 years ago we bought the
property at a premium.
it was a golf course in our back
yard.
since then we have lost tens of
thousands of dollars.
now it's a dust pit.
okay.
very important there are dozens
and dozens of kids that live on
our street.
I can't imagine that the traffic
that will go up and down our
street, kids even shoot
basketballs on our street.
the next thing is someone
mentioned dust.
we can't even sit on our back
porch and enjoy the dirt lot
because of the dust that covers
evening that we sit on, we have
to wipe it off every day.
if we open our sliding doors our
house has to be dusted every
day.
that's are not what we paid a
premium for.
it's just embarrassing.
I'm a ex developer.
I understand the gentleman's
problems.
we're not getting what we paid
for.
I don't know how much we have
lost since we have lived there
over 20 years.
think my two minutes is about
up.
>> thank you, sir.
appreciate your comments.
>> daniel g.
>> good evening chair and board
members.
my name is daniel g.
I represent the north nine
neighborhood association.
210 home owners in an area of
a -- east view open space.
represent a large group of
impacted residents would you
permit me to speak for five
minutes.
>> you have two minutes.
>> okay.
thank you.
I would like to first opt, start
off I appreciate the time and
effort planning staff has put
into the process.
my client is open to the master
plan and concept.
however my client opposes the
master plan with several key
concerns with the current draft
of the master plan.
particularly the long term
preservation and east view
heights open space.
my client's primary concern is
the plan lacks east view heights
area is actually preserved and
maintained overtime.
the applicants proposed
400,000-dollar bond has been
flagged as inadequate in prior
e-mails and comments.
my client agrees with that. The
proposed bond amount covers
infrastructure and not
maintenance.
$400,000 may not be enough to
cover improvements themselves
let alone maintenance.
it doesn't appear the concerns
have been addressed in the
proposed version of the master
plan before you today.
there is no clear mechanism to
insure a well funded hoa for
future maintenance.
second the proposed ordinance
requires the developer to
identify a responsibility entity
before lot sales.
that's a private transaction.
this lack of enforcement kicks
the can down the road and risks
leaving the city and
neighborhoods with neglected
unfunded open space.
these concerns are not new.
similar issues contribute to the
denial of a prior master plan
application in 2020.
at that time the board found the
explanation of open space as
inadequate.
to help address the issues we
have several targeted segments
in the written submission you
should have a copy of.
thank you.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> pamela layer is.
>> good evening pamela harris,
692.
I live in chamisa greens.
behind my house is a drainage
ditch.
the chamisa greens owns that and
gave it to the city.
they have a proposal that
they're going to use that as a
ingress and egress.
they don't own all of that.
they only have a small portion
of it as a roadway.
the city owns another part of
that. Also has scafta done a
research on the drainage ditch
that is behind there.
it was zoned for the properties
that are already there.
so I didn't see that on the
master plan.
has a traffic study been done, I
don't know I haven't seen it is
what about the overload of the
streets and the schools.
there is no plan for any schools
or anything coming through here.
I really think we need to not
okay this plan.
in my opinion.
thank you.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> oh, by the way the sign that
the people put up on the, to
notify us on street was behind
trees, on a fence.
>> howard ballmer.
>> I don't think he wants to
speak.
that could be a first, howard.
>> michael c.
>> michael p.
I live on st. Andrews drive.
the former -- golf course.
I'm here to express my
opposition to the proposed
zoning change to the chamisa
hills golf course.
this is zoned for a golf course
or park.
the property has not been
maintained.
I have two complaints to code
enforcement about the height of
weeds being non compliance and
no action taken by the city or
owner of the former golf course.
due to the negligence of these
two parts there are tens of
thousands of tumbleweeds
creating havoc to adjacent
properties.
this could of been easily
avoided with maintenance of the
land.
recent wind storms I have
numerous tumbling weeds and
woodie weeds in my back yard I
have to dispose of.
rather than managing the land as
a golf course or park the city
of rio rancho has let the land
become a baron waste land.
from my understanding the flood
authority has not evaluated the
proposed zoning change.
this meeting is entirely
premature.
the only reason this is being
considered is greed.
-- cramming in houses adjacent
to our r1 lots.
the city of rio rancho will
profit by assessing impact fees
to these lots.
the open space designation has
not been shown any plans for
improvements.
home owners can only assume it
will be weed infested with no
maintenance or repercussions
from code enforcement.
in summary there should be no
zone change permitted
especially -- cfa.
adjacent property owners have
seen their property valuation
decline due to the closure of
the golf course.
do not allow further devaluation
permitting r3, r4, mua, c1
lots --
>> I will ask to you wrap it up.
>> -- current property.
>> thank you, sir.
>> mike lindel.
>> evening, mike lindel, agusta
drive.
I have several issues.
I'm narrowing it down.
traffic, there will be highways.
right now my five-year-old son
and I use the park at the bottom
of calle s.
kids play baseball and soccer.
there will be too much traffic
to consider with all of the
brand new homes.
most importantly the schools,
the capacity, I had a niece and
nephew just graduate from rio
rancho high school they're 30-1
in general studies right now.
the teachers are overwhelmed.
it will only make things worst
with the new homes going in.
lastly I will make this brief.
I want to get through it all but
the visibility in our yards.
I have a two foot high wall.
no privacy, no security.
who knows, these are pretty
plans.
who knows when these turn into
low income housing.
security and crime rates become
a issue.
like I said I have a five year
old son to worry about. I think
the yeas and nays here are
telling how we all feel.
alright.
thank you.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> cat farwa.
>> good evening.
my name is cat I live at 3601
st. Andrews.
I completely oppose to this
master plan.
I was not notified about the
meeting until a friend told me.
I wanted to thank the person who
actually sent me a letter to my
residence.
I don't know who it is.
agree with everything they say.
this plan is a disaster in the
making.
the increased traffic,
congestion, noise alone will be
disruptive to our quality of
life.
adjacent property taxes will
drop.
initially when the community was
built in the early 70s it was
around a golf course.
providing much open space.
today it's not practical to
continue with a golf course.
it shouldn't be replaced with
higher dense commercial
activity.
instead the open space zoning
should be maintained.
there are alternate uses for the
property.
tennis courts, driving range.
lots of options.
what is proposed in the master
plan is to bring millions of
dollars to profit steve chavez
at the detriment to our
community.
I want to thank the person that
sent this letter.
that's why I'm here today.
I bought that property thinking
we didn't have an hoa.
I don't want an hoa there.
are a lot of changes that will
happen.
I couldn't sit still and not say
anything.
I oppose this plan.
I want you to think about it.
traffic, sewage, water,
electricity, all of the
emergency items that everyone
else has been speak ing about
that will be congested.
it will also take time to get in
those places.
also I feel for my neighbors.
the ones not here tonight
because they didn't get a
letter.
I didn't get a certified letter.
I would like a list of the
letters that went out certified
or even first class mail.
thank you.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> mark s.
>> thank you for the time to
speak.
my name is mark s.
I live on calle -- and my
property backs onto the golf
course.
I did get a letter from the city
of course it was addressed to
the previous owners.
I have lived there for seven
years.
I have no problem getting my
alarm bill from the city or
water bill from the city.
I don't understand why they
can't get my name right on the
notification.
one thing that concerns me about
this project.
the history is each time we come
down here, there is a new
proposal to increase the amount
of land being built.
what started out simple under
the original plan that I think a
lot of people agreed with has
now been over blown.
we have commercial zones.
it's just gotten crazy.
I also don't agree with the pid.
I'm not going to be taxed to
subsidize a developer who is
going to ultimately lower my
property values.
traffic issues.
there is no concrete traffic
plan at this point.
I'm certain with what I'm
looking at that this will become
a freeway.
that is not acceptable to me or
I'm sure the neighborhood.
the commercial developments seem
odd to put in medical offices
and a pharmacy.
we have presbyterian and wall
greens and cvs in walking
distance.
the plan lacks details.
no concrete plans for open space
management or ownership.
it's empty promises.
you can't approve plans with the
vague details.
too many details are being
deferred to the individual
projects or developer.
right now the developer has
never talked to me.
I will wrap it up here.
it just seems that there is no
concerns for the existing
neighborhood.
there is only focus on the grand
plan.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> sandra moore.
>> my name is sapped era moore.
I live in district four.
I would like to know what the
videos and cameras are used for
before we go ahead.
okay.
which media?
the name.
okay.
thank you for that.
so I'm in district four.
I'm here to oppose the plan as
the previous gentleman said
there is not a lot of detail,
it's vague.
I don't feel we should push this
forward.
for my perspective this is to be
a walkable community.
the traffic has increased since
I have been here three years.
I have almost been hit three
times walking on east lake.
increased traffic for people
going to work.
there is no plan on road
maintenance.
I haven't seen who will pay for
that. I don't want to pay for
that. My property taxes have
already increased.
the roads for st. Andrews have
been paveed.
torrey pines and -- has not.
this doesn't give me faith on
who is paying for the road
maintenance.
I will yield my time to someone
else.
thank you.
>> john spire.
>> hello my name is john spire.
my wife and I live in district
four, torrey pines.
like a number of speakers we
have some serious concerns about
this plan.
especially the nueva e. Hoa of
this plan.
84 town houses.
adding to traffic of over 200
new working age residents to our
quiet east lake drive will
clearly impose a severe hardship
to our neighborhood.
even bigger problem is that the
southern exposure or access to
st. Andrews is denied.
the plan calls for making the
emergency access through the old
east golf course extend all the
way from the old club house to
east lake.
that will be a disaster.
there is no sidewalks in the
heights.
we walk our dogs and the
children play in our streets.
if you're not familiar, I
presume you r the east end of
east lake drive is just a short
road that has room for about 12
cars to wait at the red light
before traffic starts to back
up, around the corners and
through the stop signs.
this already happens.
the way things are now.
there is no way to make that
road bigger.
so we already have a hazardous
situation at the corner,
especially for pedestrians and
cyclists.
please don't make the situation
worst than it already is.
thank you, very much.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> holly hartwig.
>> my name is holly hartwig I
live in district four.
I would just like to say a few
things.
it would be really nice if we
were notified by mail, I have
lots of friends and older
neighbors without computers and
don't walk the golf course.
none have been informed.
even people in the islands.
it would be nice to be informed
by mail so people that can't
walk and go to the places can
see that.
how we were informed was a
yellow sign by my husband seeing
the yellow sign on the edge of
the golf course or we wouldn't
know that and our neighbors
didn't know about it.
the other thing it's difficult
to find the master plan on our
gov website.
that would be nice if that was
easier to find it I hope you can
make changes.
I had to call and ask.
I called the library on how to
find it that was another
concern.
my other concern as many people
here have said about the safety
of the walkers and the children
who play in the street in our
neighborhood.
with more traffic coming to east
lake drive a few years ago a
woman was killed on that corner.
I don't want to see children
killed because of more traffic.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> I will lay the microphone
here so it's easier for people
and quicker.
>> thank you.
>> paul c.
>> mr. Chairman, commissioners
my name is paul c.
I'm kind of new to rio rancho.
I have only lived here since
1972.
the bottom line is I live in
district 5.
I own property at the greens
condominium on country club.
besides that I'm the vice
president of the property
management company that manages
the greens.
we take care of the association.
we take care of the grounds
keeping and maintenance.
bottom line is we have faced
this problem since the golf
course closed.
you talk about responsibility
from a developer not only this
developer but the one prior to
him.
we have approximately an eighth
and a quarter of our mile up
against the west nine.
we have had $70,000 of
landscaping damage done in the
past two years.
$70,000.
we weren't notified.
I understand a quarter of a mile
isn't a big stretch.
there isn't a sign out there
about this meeting.
there is no notification.
there are 204 condominiums.
you did not even give us the
courtesy of listing us on our
list of associations you put up
there.
we are 204 condos.
that's probably I don't know
four or five hundred voters.
bottom line is we are your
citizens and you answer to us.
why don't you start asking us
what the city can do for us
instead what had the city can do
to us.
this is a bad idea.
gentlemen, we're pretty
hospitable people in rio rancho.
you know what, you're not
welcome.
we don't want.
this we want something done
where we're protected.
our property is protected.
where our invest ment in the
community is protected.
a lot of us have a lot of money
invested in our homes and
properties.
it's up to you guys to protect
us.
thank you.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> is ruby c.
>> should of let her go first
she is nicer than me.
>> I'm ruby c.
I live in district five.
own numerous properties in
district four.
I have been the property manager
of country club villas, if you
want to take a note of, that
it's been in existence since
1983.
I have been there the whole
time.
we're not new.
a few things.
no one that I am aware of on the
property known as the greens
legally known as country club
villas has been notified of this
meeting.
I own several properties there.
tax bills, I got them.
not one notice.
I hr-ts run an office there on
the property.
not one letter.
so it's not just a couple that
slipped through the cracks.
see, I can understand, I have
been in real estate more years
than some of you have been
alive.
I understand the problems of
trying to develop something that
was basically land locked
because it was meant to be a
golf course from the envisioning
people that created rio rancho.
however, you need to find
someone or if you have a
developer who here that wants to
develop they can't do this type
of density.
I did a couple of years ago when
this was brought up by scars
guard I sent over a market
analysis between unit 16 and
chamisa hills or chamisa -- one
of the developments that is very
nice here.
if you offer more land and you
don't make it so dense you can
get more for your dollar.
the city can not afford the
water, the roads, public safety,
or the schools.
number one, you know I have
lived my whole life in rio
rancho or new mexico in the
albuquerque area.
open space grows a heck of a lot
of weeds.
you guys don't take care of
cement.
I don't think you will take care
of the weeds.
>> I will ask you to wrap up.
>> I have had people call our
maintenance crews, fire hazards
from the weeds that have been
blown into entrances.
we had to --
>> your time is up.
>> -- we had to remove them with
pitch forks to get people out of
their homes.
the city can not afford.
this.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> debora west.
>> state your name for the
record, please.
>> debora west.
panorama heights east of
st. Andrews area.
I want to recognize this has
been long and complicated and
pretentious for this land.
it doesn't appear this area was
engaged as the other hoas and
many hoas were not engaged in
these ways.
we were not on the list despite
70% of our boarders were
effected.
internally we will be affected
as well with major traffic
proposed to our streets.
-- this is already overburdened.
it's an exit for a neighborhood.
it serves at 528 adjacent
businesses like natural grocers
years and concerns of traffic on
east lake have been raised prior
to the plan and this would
worsen the problem.
we were built out sidewalks.
we have adapted and embraced
that.
but it seize regular pedestrian
use especially east lake with a
school bus.
seniors and others walking to
target and the hospital, natural
gross years, starbucks, it's
used as pedestrians.
it's the only option.
no sidewalks.
increased vehicle traffic is not
justin convenience it's
dangerous.
I think that the plan needs more
development.
think it needs more
consideration before any sort of
approval takes place for the
plan or zoning changes.
under no circumstances should
existing neighborhoods absorb
internal changes and internal
effects that should be off the
table.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> -- ramirez.
503 st. Andrews.
I lived in albuquerque.
it got worst and worst.
looking for somewhere better to
live.
my wife and my mother-in-law
went home to be with the lord.
we still have the house.
we love it.
I like it because it's quiet and
peaceful.
family orientated, everyone is
polite.
it's the best place I have ever
lived.
I feel that, well, they're going
to do this I told my wife, we're
moving.
y'all can have it.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> ophelia shaw.
>> hi.
my name is ophelia shaw.
I am against putting housing or
commercial space around the golf
course.
I live here 20 years.
okay.
my concern is if you allow this
to happen we may have traffic
issues, crime issues, home
invasion issues.
are you going to protect us, the
people who live here in rio
rancho for awful these years.
you are going to put apartments,
low income housing because the
owner wants to make money.
he doesn't give a -- our safety.
okay.
I want the city people to put
serious consideration on this
issue.
this is my second time for the
meeting.
I show my support, and I show my
face.
I don't do the talking on the
computer.
okay.
I really, really wish city would
put consideration on the safety
of the people who live here.
thank you.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> sue p.
>> I can't see -- I'm sue p.
I want to quote the plan.
it's for the safety and general
welfare of the city providing
housing and landscape
improvements to meet community
needs.
well I'm at the esplanade.
I have heard from people at the
golf course.
this is a community.
we have country club drive and
st. Andrews drive.
there is a major issue for us
with traffic and congestion.
a couple of years ago the city
was asked for about six acres of
mixed use.
I thought that was generous.
this is for 18 acres at the top
of the hill and 6 acres at the
bottom of the hill.
it's an obtrusive ask.
-- I don't know how we can do
it.
I don't agree with this plan the
way it's written.
I think it's poorly written.
they leave out a lot.
they talk about on page 62 multi
story buildings are encouraged
up to three stories.
now that was never approved by
anyone I know of especially the
single family homes they were
suppose to design to not be more
than a story.
that's because we didn't want to
obstruct peoples views.
that's the major advantage of
this place.
the master plan also does,
doesn't really specifically tell
you about the multi, or the town
houses, multi family.
how many multi family homes will
there be.
different from the houses?
senior housing.
single story.
single or multi story.
all of these are left for us to
guess.
on page 15 they don't tell you
the access roads.
being off of country club drive,
sorry that was a major issue.
I think this is poorly written.
thank you for your time tonight.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> david shaw.
[laughing]
>> lisa medina.
>> good evening my name is leis
other medina.
I live at 3708 spy glass loop.
my house, my husband and I live
in a house that is not budding
up to the golf course.
just looking at this information
we can see -- I was not going to
speak tonight but someone left
information on our doorstep.
like other people I wasn't too
aware of the master plan that
was going on but from my
perspective I'm glad I got a
chance to say something because
it looks like a lot of it is
based on someone from the
outside looking in.
not all of these people here
from inside looking out.
because we take pride in our
neighborhood, where we live,
like some of them said we have
spent a lot of money on our
homes.
we live there because of what it
is.
by looking at this development
coming in it's definitely going
to change the dynamic and what
we love about our neighborhoods.
just living off of double
diamond.
that road if you go down it
right now full of pot holes.
pot holes that have been filled
and filled and filled.
I have lived there a few years
not 20 or 30 years, three years.
it's never been, it's never
looking good.
it's pot holes after filling pot
holes.
all of the traffic that will
come in I just don't understand
where the money will come from
to accommodate all of the
traffic and all of the new homes
and the retail.
I just don't understand where
it's coming from.
then they said they want to
implement a pid or hoa will pay
for it.
when are we going to be notified
how that affects us and impacts
us.
I just think, my opinion is
maybe look at this in a
different angle.
you know push it out a little
bit more.
have another meeting.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> is florence cunningham.
>> hi I'm florence cunningham.
I'm a resident of the heights.
my parents and I live on
st. Andrews.
they are, our house sits on the
golf course.
I'm the current art commissioner
of district four.
I earned my position reading the
rio rancho observer.
I want to announce the
disrespect posting the
albuquerque journal when we have
our own payer.
in 2020 there was a unanimous
vote not to change the golf
course.
based on the current city census
there are 114811 residents.
since we're talking about the
pid I would like to acknowledge
that is a one time income for
the city.
the whole city would be affected
on 528.
income adjusted by the proposed
plan a good propositions would
be that the city residents buy
400,000-dollar bond to come out
to $3.48.
>> thank you for your comments.
>> lastly we have barbara
cheney.
>> right up to the podium, right
there.
>> I'm not familiar.
hi I'm barbara cheney.
my residents is 3592calles.
I have been sitting in the other
room.
I look at these two empty chairs
here.
I notice one of the empty chairs
is robert galbeldon.
oh, yes in the heart where the
golf course is located.
I wonder where is he?
is he too busy?
he's not concerned or he doesn't
want his vote to be recorded?
that's my secret feeling.
he doesn't want to be here to
have it recorded.
my question is about the master
hoa.
so we talk about this kind of,
what is it called like a
dream -- ambiguous master plan.
what is the master hoa?
will it incorporate all of the
hoas in the new development.
are they going to bring in the
hoas a budding the golf
course?
I wonder when the master hoa is
created it will be owned by
primarily by the developer or
the developers that purchase
from the developer until all of
the lots are sold.
does this hoa, this master hoa
vote in a pid request?
do they vote per lot?
if that's true then all of the
other lots including the poor
souls buying in the new area
they will be out voted every
time by the master hoa.
we have seen that happen.
and I want to say too although
you stated this is nearly an
advisory commission we see it as
a good time for a huge number of
affected current tax payers and
residents to ask for your help.
there are clearly many critical
problems with this proposal .
to kick this to the advocating
bod a, why does this commission
exist if not to clarify the
impact of this massive
development?
that's why you're here.
I look at los ranchos.
I think one of the commissioners
here is familiar are loss ran
choice.
they fast tracked a big
development.
as that thing tarted to come up
and the residents started to see
what they got into --
>> I will ask you to wrap it up.
>> -- I will.
they threw out the mayor.
the p&z people, got rid of the
board of trustees.
they were upset.
they didn't feel they had an
idea what was coming down the
road.
I am saying we should pay
attention to that. I think you
should look at this carefully.
>> wrap it up, please.
>> I am.
look at this carefully.
please, please table it,
reconsider this.
[ applause ]
>> that's all that signed up in
the audience.
I believe we have some that are
on-line.
>> no mr. Chair, we do not have
anyone on-line that signed up to
speak.
>> okay.
>> so at this time public
comments is closed.
we will go to discussion of the
board.
prior to going to discussion I
think I would like to take about
a eight minute break and come
back at 8:00 o'clock.
so this time we will recess
until 8:00 o'clock.
thank you.
[in recess]
>> thank you.
thank you for the feedback.
okay.
soy did hear kind of in
to clarify nothing has been
approved at this point.
regardless how we vote on the
master plan approval tonight it
goes to the governoring body.
the governor body your elected
officials will make the final
decision.
I thought that would be
important to clarify.
>> thank you.
>> you know I think someone said
maybe at best, we fully
understand this is impacting a
lot of individuals.
there has been a lot of
discussion.
a lot of ideas over the years.
I think as we have heard and the
community has heard I highly
doubt there will be a single
solution that will make everyone
happy at the end of the day.
you know we have seen, in
addition to the comments we
heard this evening.
we have had a packet of comments
we read through before getting
here tonight.
you know there is a lot of we're
tired of seeing the dirt.
we're tired of the undesirable
landscape and views.
yes we wanted a golf course.
now we have dirt and weeds.
please do something with that.
there is undesirable activity in
these a dan donned, unpopulated
areas.
so we hear a side too that says
please do something with this.
then obviously hearing the site
of, but not that.
you know so just want to
recognize you know that we hear,
we hear everyone.
this is a challenge, obviously.
I again highly doubt there is
singular solution for everyone
to agree.
if we said it's a golf course
should not would be unhappy with
the golf course.
maybe not from this group.
something I saw and heard and I
have a question about.
we heard some hoas were
involved in some discussion and
we have heard that there is some
impact potentially to the
hoas.
possibly in the form of
additional costs.
is there a clarification we can
have around that.
as to engagement with the impact
of hoas and any cost impact to
them.
>> so, thank you.
commissioner hankins and
chairman.
I think there is misconceptions
of the potential for the bid
works that's a financial tool to
help support the infrastructure
development that is necessary in
order to develop any of these
properties.
as somebody mentioned the
challenge of developing
abandoned fairways with new
development is steep.
so the pid is a tool.
it's a tool we plan to explore
to see if it's implemented.
the existing home owners will
not be part of the pid.
it would apply to the new
development areas and the new
residents only.
the hoas.
the question about the master
hoa.
once again the job of the master
hoa is a coordinated entity that
oversees the individual
neighborhood hoas to make sure
that things like maintenance and
the responsibilities for the
development of the open space
areas that are part of each
individual neighborhoods
responsibility are done in
concert with one another.
and they're done right.
the, once again the hoas will
be created for each of the
individual neighborhoods.
they will not involve any of the
existing residents outside of
the projects themselves.
so once again, we're actively
looking at the tools.
there have been changes at the
state level in terms of the laws
related to tifs and how those
work.
harry welkin is on the call.
he has done this a long time.
we are actively looking at the
different mechanisms.
trying to ultimately, the reason
I think there is a change
between the previous master plan
and this one is really a deep
dive into making sure that
financially the project can be
sustainable.
make the developments and are
supported that are necessary and
the open spaces.
the trails.
so we don't have the problem
down the road that it doesn't
work.
so we have really spent a lot of
time on that.
ken murphy who is also on the
call.
his analysis is included in the
appendixes.
that really trying to make sure
we understand how the economics
work.
make sure the project can
sustain itself going forward.
does that answer your question.
>> yes, thank you.
I appreciate.
thank you, very much.
>> ma'am, public comment is
closed.
>> this is the developer, the
applicant.
we're asking him the questions
you all asked. I will ask,
please.
public comment is closed.
>> okay.
so the other question I do have
is, I'm not sure if this is
staff or the developer, both.
we did hear that you are
honoring a grievance and it
appears to indicate a different
zoning type than what is on the
proposal.
is there a reason why the zoning
being proposed and the
agreements differentiate?
>> thank you for that question.
as so the zoning proposal is
inclusive r6, I'm sorry r3.
really the plan is to develop
single family detached housing
in each of these neighborhoods.
think it was also comments about
designating the open space areas
within the neighborhoods in
addition as a finer layer.
we are working to straddle both
the zoning originally
established with the last
resolution that was r4 and r --
think it was all r4 at that
time.
so combining a combination of r4
and r3 but recognizing those
agreements that you mentioned
that basically so the west nine
development is restricted to
following the r1 standards.
if this commission recommended
that the west, I forget the
names, they get mixed up.
we will call it the west nine.
you know what I'm talking about.
if this commission wanted to
recommend r1 zoning when we get
to that section of the agenda we
would be fine with that.
we have agreed that would be
developed with r1 standards.
those houses will be single
story, single access off
broadmore and the 65-foot buffer
around that.
that is a non negotiable item.
we will adhere to that and a
bide by that.
whatever the zoning is.
that's part of the standards.
>> thank you for that
clarification.
I will go ahead.
>> think commissioner hardisty
touched on my question about the
pid and existing residents.
thank you for that. I have a
question, I don't know if this
is for the staff.
can you tell us why the master
plan was denied previously in
2020 can you shed light on that
and how this plan differs from
the previous.
>> commissioner chair hankins.
>> I have to go back to the 2020
for specifics.
I think in general there has
been staff lack of knowledge on
the open space and how it would
be maintained and plans for
revegetation and things like
that.
that has been the consistent
comment staff has had.
I would have to look back at the
abm in 2020 to go further into
detail.
>> okay.
thank you.
that's all I have.
>> commissioners to my right.
>> hi, jim.
so, currently the golf course is
zoned su for neighborhood
development.
is that correct as it currently
stands.
>> I believe it's su for planned
residential development for the
residential development areas is
what it is at this time.
no.
did I get that wrong?
>> it's not su for neighborhood
development?
>> so, mr. Chair the development
is su for planned residential
development.
there was underlined uses for
acreage for open space and
commercial.
>> there was open space in that
plan.
>> that's correct.
>> I think there are concerns
about the current plan as to the
delineation of open space in the
zones of the existing
neighborhoods.
would you, it looks like in the
plans it looks like open space.
it doesn't look like
residential.
are you consideration further,
going into better detail about
delineating the open space on
your plan?
>> so commissioner kofchur and
mr. Chairman, the detailed plan,
there are detailed plans for
each neighborhood within the
master plan.
those do a more precise job with
lay outs of the lot dimensions
and areas as well as the open
space.
the intent is that when
preliminary plats come in they
refine the drawings.
the intent for the development
areas for the roadways and lots
and the uppers and the adjacent
open space would be a part of
each of those off tracks.
when a development for the
neighborhood comes in those are
firmly did he lineated with the
plat.
the maintenance and ownership
responsible is for the hoa
within each of those
neighborhood areas.
those plans would be part of
each of the neighborhoods
developer.
the intent is to implement those
lay outs.
to the best of our ability.
we know and some of the issues
that came up tonight include
access, include emergency
access.
include a number of things that
have to be worked out as part of
the preliminary and final plats
for the neighborhoods.
I am not going to say there
won't be changes.
I anticipate there will be
changes as we go through the
process with city staff.
are those changes going to be
monumental or -- of the
neighborhoods.
I would say no.
it's hard to did he lineate
where the lines are exactly.
those were developed by
community design solutions, our
civil engineer, they work from a
technical stand point.
they haven't been through that
process yet.
that is what needs to happen if
this master plan is approved and
they're allowed to move forward.
that would be the responsibility
of the individual home builder
coming in with their specific
plan for each of those areas.
>> right.
I understand this is a design
standard document.
that you know, what you show
with the roadways that could
change based on the trip counts
that are generated when the
design is done.
>> correct.
>> I do have another question
about community engagement.
there seems to be some
questions, disconnect with the
community and the groups that
represent the neighborhoods.
what engagement, what history
was done.
was there, was there meetings
involved that were in place?
I'm just curious as to like,
maybe like the numbers of
meetings.
I heard some comments they
haven't had discussions or
meetings since maybe july of
last year.
I wonder if you can talk about
that.
>> I'm a little disadvantage to
answer that question
specifically.
that was not part of our scope
of work and responsibility in
regards to the master plan.
my client took that on himself.
>> mr. Chavez.
>> he is not here this evening.
I can not really speak to that
directly.
that's why.
>> so we don't know what was
discussed to this vantage point.
how he presented things in the
meetings.
>> I wasn't at the meetings.
I was not part of that.
>> I don't know, I will kick it
over to scottie.
maybe I will come up with
another question.
>> okay.
I have two.
one is a basic statement
regarding drainage.
I heard issues about drainage
flow come about a few times and
the photos we have the package
of.
I will make a statement.
the drainage problem issue
pretty much be mitigated once
the development is complete,
pretty much or in the making so
to speak.
>> one hundred percent.
>> the other thing that popped
up a few times was the cost of
the landscaping of 400,000.
400,000 I can't recall if that
was the minimum, the starting
point or the over all budget
allocation.
>> so, mr. Chavez has worked
with a contractor to develop
that number.
that did not just come oust thin
air.
worked directly with a
contractor of what it would take
to improve the trails in the
north nine area as well as
specific landscape improvements
in that area.
that I think is a base.
it would take more than that.
that is what the commitment is,
that is the amount of money that
will be bonded and made
available for the improvements.
if, remember the main focus of
mr. Chavez' goal for the north
nine is to work with grants.
looking to work with
potentially -- the city, other
non profits and other
organization that's may take on
the responsibility of ultimately
owning and maintaining the
property in perpetuity.
the commitment is if they're not
successful in that effort than
the $400,000 is available to be
spent for those improvements.
>> okay.
thank you.
one last comment.
I guess most of the open space
or walk ways so to speak,
trails, are pretty much
developed through crusher pine.
>> a combination.
I was talk with one of the
gentlemen during the break with
significant concerns about the
pressure pines.
I walk almost every week, I walk
the unm golf course.
I live there.
that trail system was improved
as a collaborative effort
between the university of new
mexico and bernallio county.
they're all pressure pines.
it's a two mile loop around that
existing golf course.
I walk it every week.
it gets, it's incredible how
much use that gets.
is it perfect, no.
does it need maintenance
occasionally.
yes.
we have one of our gully
washers.
they have to go out and make
improvements to the trail.
I will tell you as a user of
that trail, think my neighbors
and the other people that use
the trail on a daily basis would
say they far prefer that then an
asphalt multi use trail.
we have a combination of both
identified in the plan.
there is a connection to the
park all the way through to the
high resort across the area that
would be a multi use trail.
that is, that is to accommodate
bicycles and scooters, whatever
that maybe.
the majority of the trails are
designated to be soft surface
walking trails.
we will ultimately do the
analysis what that material
needs to be and best treatment
of that material to make sure
maintenance is kept to a
minimum.
some of that is working with the
grading and drainage plan to
make sure we're not creating
situations where that pressure
pine traylor whatever the soft
surface is, is not washed out
every time it rains.
there is detail to go into that.
once again as a user of trails
throughout the city and the
whole area, my preference is a
soft surface walking trail for
running and walking.
it doesn't accommodate bicycles.
we have trails to do that
outside of the walking paths.
>> okay.
this is a good segway.
my last one is.
development on new development
brings about density, right.
vehicles, people, right.
I recall hearing a few times.
I may have this wrong.
along st. Andrews there is a
lack of sidewalks.
>> right.
>> okay.
has there been a consideration
to address that as development
grows if the project was to go
along.
>> I don't think it's within our
ability or the developer of that
individual neighborhood to make
improvements to st. Andrews.
the question right away making
that happen.
I will say all of the new
neighborhoods will be developed
with sidewalks, curb and gutter,
and streets developed to the
city standards.
once again we plan a robust
internal walking and multi use
trail network that hopefully
provides those opportunities as
well.
>> that's all I have.
thank you.
>> okay.
I will switch to this mic here.
I don't think that one is
working very well.
a couple of things.
first I want to thank the staff
for putting in our packets
starting last week all of the
comments that were coming in,
written.
they provided when the original
packet came out on friday, again
on monday, and again today.
so we have received all of those
comments prior to the meeting
today.
that is where I got a lot of my
questions from is from those
comments that were submitted.
so I will go through these.
I think I understand what the
answer is but the drainage plans
will have to be approved by
scafta, engineers and the city
prior to any development.
is that correct?
>> that is correct.
>> the roadways and sidewalks
have to be approved by the
city's engineers and the city
prior to any development,
correct?
>> correct.
>> the city will look at the
traffic counts and when you
submit the plats and site plans
and stuff, and the city
transportation department will
then decide traffic impact
analysis needs to be done or
further work needs to be done.
is that correct?
>> that is correct.
>> there were questions about
the signage throughout the
development.
my understanding is from the
staff, any signs that are
erected within that plan will
have to be approved by the city
and under the new city ordinance
on signs passed last year.
>> that is correct.
>> storm water and quality water
discharge has to be approved by
all of the governmental entities
involved in that, correct.
>> that is correct.
>> water, sewer, electricity all
has to be approved prior to any
development by the city and the
state or who ever else has any
control over it.
>> mr. Chairman, any plat
requires not only the review and
approval of the technical
engineering, technical
engineering studies prepared,
associated by the city
engineering staff but also all
of the private utilities, pnm,
gas company, cable.
awful those utilities also have
to sign off on that plat prior
to any construction taking
place.
>> okay.
>> a lot of questions came up
about the abandoned lakes.
it's my understanding that any
work that has to be done on
those lakes has to be approved
by the state environment
department.
>> that is correct.
so some of that work has been
completed for some of the lakes
that have been remediated prior.
the final are in the review and
approval process today.
that will be completed, that
process will be completed prior
to any development in those
areas.
>> that's all up to the state
environment department.
>> that's correct.
>> some questions about public
schools.
so the public knows when the
staff puts their report together
they send this stuff to rio
rancho public schools.
I'm looking at the report and I
will go through it.
rio rancho public schools
received a copy.
no comments provided.
usually in a master plan they
probably don't.
when they go into the site
development plan that's when the
agencies make comments.
fire department special.
>> they won't approve any site
development plan, emergency
gates or whatever.
they will require the developer
and everybody to follow their
specifications and their rules
and regulations.
correct.
>> that's correct.
they will require fire one plan
and then ultimately a fire two
plan, I believe prior to any
construction.
>> I think you answered the
question on the pid or any type
of thing like that. That will
only affect the new development.
it does not affect the old
surrounding areas that are
already there.
>> that is correct.
>> think the last question that
I had, you talked about the
zoning and whatever everyone has
agreed to on paper, that is what
will you follow.
so, I guess my question to staff
is how do we put that in a
motion or whatever to make sure
that is done, so that there is
no misconception down the road.
it was r4 zoning, but they
agreed to do the r3 standards.
then they say we don't want to
do the r3 standards anymore.
how do we make sure that is
done?
>> mr. Chair, what we can do
because the city can not enforce
private convenance.
that's a private party matter.
we recommend an amendment to the
proposed ordinance that we
drafted to change that zoning
requirement to that specific
zoning type.
whether that's r1 or r2.
there is also the additional
option the applicant can request
to postpone or with draw the
item making those edits and
submitting a new application
with the edits in place as well.
there are a couple of options
available.
>> last question I have, roads
within the master plan will
those be private roads or city
maintained and owned roads?
>> so within the individual
neighborhoods I don't believe
that determination has been
made.
they could be private roads if
they chose to gate those
neighborhoods.
if they don't that has not been
determined.
the individual home builders
would likely make the
determinations.
we have determined within the
town center where we have the
plaza and one way streets and on
street parking that our proposal
is that those roadways would be
developed as private roads in
order to allow us to provide
lower speed limits then the city
might normally impose and
different roadway standards.
we understand and anticipate
that the design of those
roadways and that roadway system
through the town center will be
something that has to get
negotiated and worked out with
city staff prior to a site plan
coming forward for review and
approval.
>> okay.
I am just looking to see if I
have more questions.
again the majority of the
questions I want the public to
know came from comments we
received written prior to
tonight's meeting.
at least on my point.
any other questions or comments
from the board?
>> I have one additional
question or clarification.
so there was concern that if
this master plan were to be
approved the parcels would be
sold off and used in a manner
not conforming to the master
plan.
my understanding is once we
approve a master plan that's not
possible.
what ever is developed there
conforms to the master plan.
is my understanding accurate.
>> maybe a better question for
staff.
I will take a stab at answering
it.
my understanding as well.
once again when individual
developments come through
they're evaluated based on their
conformance with the master plan
and as part of the review
process through the city staff.
>> amy, is that accurate.
>> mr. Chair, commissioner
hardisty, that's correct.
we attach this to the property
itself.
even if it changes ownership it
is still in place.
same thing with the zoning.
even when they sell the property
to the new property owners that
zoning would stay the same
between the different owners.
>> okay.
thank you.
that's all I have.
>> any other comments from the
board.
>> mr. S., does the owner intend
to develop the parcels or are
each one done by a different
element.
>> my understanding is
mr. Chavez is intending to be
the developer of the town center
and that is going to be the
heart of the community.
he will be taking that on
himself.
the individual neighborhoods
would likely be sold to
individual home builders and
really trying to pay attention
to the different products and
price points.
I think someone used the term
"affordable housing" as a
commenter.
I think I can guarantee this
project is not going to be
affordable.
>> market rate.
>> they will be market rate and
that's just the nature of the
cost of this, this type of
project and the custom sort of
niches that each of the
neighborhoods will fill.
it doesn't lend itself to
affordable product.
>> any other comments from the
board?
any other questions.
>> thank you.
>> so, I guess the only one is,
do we have the ability to
recommend to the governing body
to amend the ordinance to
include those in the zoning
issues talked about?
>> chair, yes.
I would ask for as detailed
language as possible.
we can put that into the agenda
briefing memorandum for the
governing bod.y.
>> I guess I will ask the staff
to start the plan in front of
you where you have the
highlighted areas where the
agreements were reached that
even though it was r4, that they
would follow the r3 standards
and the areas going on there.
>> mr. Chairman and staff, if I
might, I think the crux of it is
that the west nine would develop
based on r1 standards in terms
of lot width and lot size.
be limited to single story, and
a single entrance off of
broadmore.
so there is an out parcel, two
parcels work together.
that there is a 65-foot buffer
between the perimeter of the
property and the houses.
that is how that subdivision has
been laid out.
that is included in the master
plan.
then I think it's vida m. Is
that center subdivision in the
east nine.
that would be developed with r2
standards and limited to single
story as well.
>> is that good enough language,
amy, making the motion with what
he said?
>> mr. Chair, yes.
let me make sure I'm on the same
page.
from my understanding we
st. West nine subdivision,
proposed subdivision on the west
nine the zoning request is
changing from r4 to r1 standards
and single family, single
family, single story, single
entrance off broadmore to be
shared between both of the
properties of that area.
then a 65-foot buffer between
the existing residential and the
proposed future property lines.
>> that's correct.
then for the second section the
vida m. Subdivision built to the
r2 standards single story.
I didn't hear anything about
buffer standards on that one.
>> I will make that motion.
okay.
any discussion on the motion.
roll call on the motion.
>> chairman radosevich.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hardisty.
>> yes.
>> mr. Hankins.
>> yes.
>> commissioner kofchur.
>> yes.
>> vice chair richardson.
>> yes.
>> motion passes.
>> I will now entertain the
motion on the floor for approval
of item number 4, master plan.
any other discussion on that?
seeing none call the roll.
>> there was a motion before
public comment.
the notes I have is that
richardson made the motion and
hankins was the second.
>> vice chair richardson.
>> yes.
>> commissioner kofchur.
>>
>> yes.
>> commissioner hardisty.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hankins.
>> yes.
>> chair radosvevich.
>> yes.
>> okay --
>> I believe they're approving
it.
>> -- through request approval
of the zone map amendment from
approximately 281 acres for
property legally described as
rombla calle, track 2, parcel 2,
3, 5, track a, and chamisa hills
north, parcel 2, su special use
to open space district, pr parks
and recreation district, mau
mixed use activity district, c1
retail district, r4 mixed
residential district, and r4
single family.
staff contact is michelle c.
staff recommends planning and
zoning board approval to the
governoring body.
michelle, any further comments.
>> thank you.
no further comments.
>> at this time I will entertain
a motion to approve item number
5, zone map amendment.
>> mr. Chair, I was going to say
if we can also, because last
amendment was to the master
plan.
if we can also make the same
amendment for the zoning.
>> as amended.
>> correct.
>> as amended.
>> commissioner hardisty motion
to approve the zone map
amendment as amended.
>> mr. Hankins, I will second.
>> any discussion from the
board.
>> mr. Chair I actually think we
need to make a separate motion
to amend the ordinance.
the previous one amended the
master plan.
this one will amend the zoning
item itself.
>> okay.
so who wants to make the motion.
>> I motion.
>> to amend the ordinance.
>> to amend the order.
>> do I have a second.
>> second commissioner hardisty.
>> any discussion.
seeing none call the roll.
>> commissioner richardson.
>> yes.
>> commissioner kofchur.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hankins.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hardisty.
>> yes.
>> chairman radosevich.
>> yes.
>> pass.
>> now we need to -- zone map.
>> as amendment.
>> approve zone map amendment as
amended.
>> commissioner hardisty.
>> commissioner hankins I will
second.
>> any discussion from the
board.
seeing none call the roll.
>> vice chair richardson.
>> yes.
>> commissioner kofchur.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hardisty.
>> yes.
>> commissioner hankins.
>> yes.
>> chairman radosevich.
>> yes.
>> motion passes.
>> next item on the agenda
discussion, deliberation.
comments by members.
I think the only comment is I
have, I talked to staff that
we're going to have informal
meet and greet on april the
18th of commissioners.
publicize that pursuant to the
ordinance.
that is all I have.
any other comments?
okay.
public forum wishing to speak in
a public forum.
>> yes.
>> step up.
>> mr. Chair, so public forum
had to be signed up for by
6:00 p.m.
so if they have their notice we
can go ahead and do that.
if we don't have someone signed
up we can't allow additional
public forum.
>> if you didn't sign up ahead
of time we can't have public
comment.
>> I did sign up.
I would like to thank the staff
for their hard work.
[inaudible]
[unable to hear]
>> okay at this time I will
entertain a motion for
adjournment.
a motion.
a second.
>> second.
>> all in favor say I.
>> I.
>> opposed.
we are adjourned.
thank you, all.