[0:02] now. And, uh Good evening, [0:05] Rockville. We are beginning our [0:07] meeting on AUGUST 3rd, 2026, [0:09] and all virtual, and we thank [0:11] you for joining us here today. [0:12] I [0:13] m gonna start with the pledge [0:22] of Allegiance. I pledge [0:23] allegiance to the flag of the [0:26] United States of America. Into [0:28] the Republic for which it [0:30] stands, one nation under GOD, [0:32] indivisible, with liberty and [0:38] justice for all. Thank you, [0:39] MISS Sarah Taylor Farrell, uh, [0:41] have there been any changes to [0:46] the agenda. MADAM Mayor and [0:48] council members, there are no [0:49] changes to this evening [0:49] s [0:52] agenda. Thank you. Excellent. [0:53] Thank you. We [0:54] ll now have the [0:54] city manager [0:55] s report, MR. Jeff [0:59] Mahalik. Mayor Ash and members [1:00] of city council, ladies and [1:01] gentlemen, good evening. I only [1:03] have 1 item tonight, and that [1:03] s [1:05] just to invite people to [1:07] participate with our economic [1:08] development strategic plan. [1:08] We [1:09] re just starting that [1:11] process right now. We [1:11] ve loaded [1:13] that project up onto engage [1:14] Rockville and we have the new [1:15] survey also show you a hard [1:18] copy of it. There it is. The [1:20] surveys available for people to [1:21] go online or to hit the qr code, [1:24] they pick it up live and please [1:25] provide their comments. They [1:27] can track the progress of the [1:28] of the economic development [1:30] plan, strategic plan [1:31] development and provide other [1:32] comments, we would appreciate [1:34] it. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you [1:36] very much, and I just wanted to [1:37] flag 1 thing between the city [1:37] manager [1:38] s office and the city [1:38] clerk [1:40] s office, we did have [1:43] several agenda items added on [1:44] Thursday for consent, uh, they [1:45] were trying to get busy and [1:47] make sure that we get a lot [1:48] done before the recess. I just [1:49] wanted to flag that if you [1:50] downloaded your agenda earlier [1:51] in the week to please feel free [1:54] to check that out. Excellent. [1:55] Thank you, MR. City Manager. [1:59] Thank you, uh, city clerk. [1:59] We [2:02] re now moving on to boards [2:03] and commissions appointments [2:05] and reappointments, we do have [2:07] a few, and I wanted to make [2:09] sure that, um, uh, it [2:10] s at [2:11] least for the human rights [2:12] commission that we can move [2:14] forward. Would anyone like to [2:15] make the motion, Council member [2:20] Valeri. Sorry, MADAM Mayor, I [2:21] just had, uh, I was raising my [2:24] hand, um, for the previous, um [2:26] Section, I just wanted to, no, [2:26] it [2:28] s ok. I just wanted to, I [2:30] just wanted to remind folks [2:32] that tomorrow night is National [2:33] Night Out. So that if they [2:33] don [2:35] t know of a gathering, um, [2:37] you know, you can, you can, uh, [2:40] check it out. Um, apologies, I [2:40] don [2:41] t know what [2:41] s going on here. [2:45] Um, we do have, I, I will just [2:46] note that we are gonna have a [2:47] proclamation for that and we [2:47] ll [2:48] speak to that a little bit more, [2:49] but please feel free to go [2:51] ahead if you have any, no, that, [2:51] that [2:52] s totally fine. I, I [2:54] forgot we had a proclamation. [2:54] That [2:55] s great. Thank you. No [2:58] problem. Thank you. Teamwork. [3:01] Does anyone want to make the [3:03] motion for our human rights [3:09] commission appointees. MADAM [3:09] Mayor, I [3:11] m happy to do that as [3:12] well if that [3:12] s helpful. Please [3:16] do thank you. Not a problem. [3:18] Let me just pull it up real [3:22] quick. I apologize. I [3:23] m having [3:28] some slow connectivity issues. [3:29] And I can as as you [3:29] re doing [3:31] that, ok, perfect. Thank you. [3:34] Yup, not a problem. Um, MADAM [3:38] Mayor, I would like to Uh, Why [3:40] I moved the appointment of Anna [3:44] De Leon. To serve an expiring [3:45] in 3-year term, a new [3:47] appointment to serve an [3:49] expiring 3-year term until [3:52] APRIL 1st, 2027. And Richard [3:54] Kaufman, a new appointment to [3:56] serve an expiring 3-year term [4:01] until JULY 1st, 2028. Excellent. [4:04] Do we have a second? Second, [4:05] Thank you. All those in favor, [4:06] please raise your hand and say [4:09] aye. Hi. Alright, thank you. [4:10] Thank you all very much. Ok, [4:10] we [4:13] ll now move back to our [4:15] proclamations, and we have 2 [4:17] for this evening, uh, 1 is for [4:19] National Night Out, and the [4:21] other one is for SEPTEMBER 11th [4:23] as National Day of Service and [4:27] remembrance. Um, I will get [4:29] started with the first, uh, [4:30] National Night Out, and I see [4:33] Chief West is on here. I want [4:35] to just echo and say thank you [4:36] to all the previous thanks that [4:36] we [4:37] ve given to the Rockwell [4:38] City Police Department. Here is [4:42] another one, there are. Over 20 [4:44] events across the city that are [4:46] happening, uh, on every corner [4:48] of the city, uh, some are large [4:49] events, some are block parties, [4:51] and I want to encourage [4:52] everyone to get out and meet [4:55] your neighbors. Uh, this is an [4:57] event that is designed to have [4:58] neighbors meet each other, talk [4:59] about what, what we [4:59] re doing [5:01] for safety, but also our police [5:02] department is going to be [5:04] getting out to all of these [5:07] events, uh, to meet folks and [5:08] just to create more [5:09] opportunities for uh community [5:12] trust. Trust, partnership and [5:12] relationship building, uh, [5:14] there, like, as I said, more [5:16] than 20 events across the city [5:18] tomorrow. It will be starting [5:19] somewhere around 5 o [5:20] clock [5:21] until 9, so feel free to get [5:22] your running shoes on with all [5:24] of us as we try to crisscross [5:27] the city. I do want to say the [5:29] following, we try to get out to [5:32] as many as we can, uh, but [5:32] because we have to get all [5:34] across the city, we are not [5:36] able to get to all of them, so [5:37] please know that every single [5:38] community is in our hearts and [5:40] our minds, and we appreciate. [5:41] Every community member that [5:41] s [5:43] helping to plan this event. Uh, [5:43] with that, I [5:44] m going to, uh, [5:50] read the proclamation. Whereas [5:51] the National Association of [5:53] Town Watch is sponsoring a [5:55] unique nationwide crime and [5:56] drug prevention program on [5:58] AUGUST 4th, 2026 called [6:01] National Night Out, and whereas [6:02] the 43rd annual Nationalite [6:04] provides an opportunity for [6:05] Rockville residents to join [6:07] with thousands of other [6:09] communities across the country [6:10] to promote cooperative police [6:11] community crime and drug [6:14] prevention efforts. The city of [6:16] Rockville will be celebrating [6:17] National Night Out 2026, and [6:18] all residents of Rockville must [6:20] be aware of the importance of [6:21] crime prevention programs and [6:23] the impact that their [6:24] participation has on reducing [6:25] crime and drug abuse in the [6:27] community. Now, therefore, the [6:29] mayor and council of Rockville, [6:31] Maryland, do hereby proclaim [6:34] AUGUST 4th, 2026 as National [6:36] Night Out and encouraged the [6:36] entire Rockville community to [6:38] be a part of this special event [6:40] and participate in the fight [6:43] against crime and drugs. And [6:44] someone moved the proclamation, [6:44] COUNCILMAN Valeri moves the [6:45] proclamation, do we have a [6:47] second? Councilor Van Grak [6:48] seconds. All those in favor, [6:51] please raise your hand and say [6:53] aye. All right. Excellent. And [6:55] we have a recipient here with [6:55] Chief West. Chief West, please [7:01] proceed. Uh, MADAM Mayor, thank [7:02] you very much, uh, our [7:05] department. Um, plans for this [7:07] all year long, uh, the entire [7:08] department will be out tomorrow [7:10] night. Uh, we look forward to [7:11] connecting with all the [7:13] residents of the city, and we [7:14] will hit just as many of those [7:15] parties, the, the police [7:17] department will be at every one [7:18] of them, so it [7:18] s a great [7:20] opportunity for us to get out, [7:22] uh, let our residents, uh, meet [7:23] our police officers and and [7:25] know us on a personal level, so [7:26] thank you for all your support [7:28] and we look forward to it. [7:29] Excellent. Thank you so much [7:30] and thank you to the entire [7:31] team. I know there [7:32] s a lot of [7:33] coordination that goes around [7:34] with reaching out to residents [7:35] and helping them to plan for a [7:37] great national night out. And [7:38] thank you to our community [7:40] partners. This would not be [7:41] possible without you. Please [7:46] join us tomorrow. Ok, we have [7:48] our next proclamation, which is [7:49] to recognize SEPTEMBER 11th, [7:51] and that will be by Council [7:52] member Jackson. Thank you, uh, [7:55] mayor. Uh, so this is, uh, [7:56] proclamation that needs no [7:57] really introduction. So let me [8:00] jump right into it. Whereas [8:02] people of all ages and walks of [8:04] life across America and around [8:05] the world collectively [8:08] witnessed an immense tragedy on [8:09] SEPTEMBER 11th, 2001, and the [8:13] events of that day instantly [8:14] transformed nearly everyone [8:14] s [8:15] lives through some through [8:17] personal loss and many through [8:19] an unfamiliar sense of [8:21] individual and national [8:23] vulnerability and whereas an [8:24] unprecedented historic bonding [8:26] of Americans arose from the [8:27] collective shock, unifying the [8:28] country in an outpouring of [8:33] natural. Spirit, fried, [8:33] selflessness, generosity, [8:36] courage, and service, and now, [8:37] therefore, the mayor and [8:38] council of the city of [8:41] Rockville, Maryland, do herero [8:45] proclaim SEPTEMBER 11th, 2026 [8:47] As 9/11, day of service and [8:49] remembrance in Sherbert to the [8:51] victims of the 9/11 terrorist [8:53] attacks, and to the many who [8:54] rose in service in response to [8:56] the attacks, and we urge the [8:59] Rockville community to reserve [9:01] SEPTEMBER 11th, 2026, as a [9:03] voluntary day of service and [9:04] remember, Madamir, I moved the [9:07] proclamation. Thank you. Do we [9:10] have a second? I [9:11] ll second. [9:12] Thank you. All those in favor, [9:13] please raise your hand and say [9:17] aye. Hi, bye, thank you. Uh, [9:20] just to note, uh, we do still [9:21] not only do a proclamation but [9:23] have an event, so please join [9:25] us on SEPTEMBER 11th from 9 to [9:26] 10 at Courthouse Square Park, [9:28] and if you didn [9:29] t know we have [9:31] a bench for each person, uh, [9:34] that is from the Rockville area, [9:36] uh, who has, uh, passed away as [9:37] a result of that event and in [9:39] remembrance of them, so please [9:43] join us on that day. Ok. MADAM [9:44] City Clerk, I think that we [9:45] didn [9:46] t have anyone signed up [9:47] for community forum, can you [9:51] just please confirm? At a mayor [9:52] and council members, that is [9:54] correct. There is no signups [9:56] for community forum so we can [9:58] move forward. Excellent. Thank [9:58] you. We [10:01] re now moving on to our [10:03] consent agenda item 9, we have [10:05] several on the list for today. [10:09] I will read the titles. 9a is a [10:11] award and authorize the city [10:13] manager to execute a contract [10:14] with Ferguson Enterprises of [10:14] Tyson [10:17] s, Virginia for request [10:19] for proposal 30-25. This is, uh, [10:22] in relation to the advanced [10:23] metering infrastructure project [10:25] associated with our water [10:26] system, and everything is safe. [10:26] It [10:28] s just a system upgrade and [10:29] that is what we [10:30] re talking [10:33] about in that item. B. A proven [10:34] authorize the city manager to [10:36] execute a change order for [10:38] contract with Boulevard [10:40] Contractors Corp of Owings Mill, [10:41] Maryland for the Lincoln Park [10:42] Community Center renovation [10:45] project in the amount not to [10:47] exceed 316,000 on, on or about, [10:48] uh, just to note there we will [10:50] be opening up that Lincoln Park [10:51] Community Center very soon and [10:53] that supports that project. [10:55] Item c, approval of an [10:57] authorization for the city [10:59] manager to execute a moderately [11:00] priced dwelling unit rental [11:01] program agreements and approval [11:04] and authorization of the city [11:06] manager to execute the [11:07] declaration of restrictive [11:08] covenants for Twinbrook Place [11:09] between the mayor and council [11:11] of Rockville and Twinard [11:12] Limited Partnership, subject to [11:14] approval as to legal form by [11:16] the acting city attorney. This [11:17] is new housing that is being [11:19] developed in Rockville and with [11:21] projects of this size, there [11:22] are new, uh, Molly Price [11:24] dwelling units. That are for [11:27] rents coming online. D. [11:28] Authorization for the city [11:30] manager to execute a grants [11:31] agreement with the us [11:33] Department of Transportation, [11:35] Federal Highway Administration [11:38] for fr 2023, active [11:39] transportation infrastructure [11:40] Investment Program for the [11:43] Maryvale Park to Red Gate Park [11:44] shared youth Path study. This [11:46] is in alignment with our Vision [11:48] Zero plan and we have been [11:49] working to create this [11:50] connectivity and this study [11:52] will help us advance those [11:54] efforts. E is an award at the [11:55] Metropolitan Washington Council [11:58] of Government s, Montgomery [11:59] County, Maryland cooperative [12:01] led in invitation, lead [12:04] invitation forbid, uh, for road [12:06] deicing to more in salt of [12:07] Chicago, Illinois, and the [12:08] amount not to exceed 1 million [12:10] each year with no arrogate, not [12:13] to exceed 5 million. [12:15] Authorization for the city [12:17] manager to execute a settlement [12:18] agreement with Engineering [12:21] Corporation. This is related to [12:22] water infrastructure as well. [12:24] Colleagues, does anyone have [12:25] any questions about these [12:26] consent agenda items, or shall [12:31] we move to your proof? Ok. Who [12:33] can make the motion? Councilor [12:38] Van Gra. MADAM Mayor, I move to [12:40] approve consent agenda items a, [12:44] b, c, d, e, and f. Excellent. [12:46] Thank you. Do we have a second? [12:48] Seconds. Councilor Jackson [12:49] seconds, all those in favor, [12:51] please raise your hand and say [12:56] aye. Aye. Aye. Ok. Thank you [13:04] very much. That Uh. We will now [13:07] move on to our work session, a [13:08] work session for grants to [13:11] nonprofits. I would like to [13:14] welcome Nick Shushka. She is a [13:15] collective impact manager in [13:16] the Department of Housing and [13:18] Community Development, as well [13:19] as Sarah Maisel, Program and [13:21] grant specialist from the [13:22] Housing Community Development [13:24] Department and we also have a [13:26] panelist, Ryan Trout, who will [13:28] be supporting. He is the [13:30] director of housing Community [13:31] Development. Welcome. We look [13:34] forward to your presentation. [13:36] Good evening, everyone. Thank [13:39] you for having Sarah and myself, [13:41] Nick Suka, tonight we are [13:44] looking forward to our grants [13:46] work session about our city [13:46] s [13:47] grants nonprofits. As you said, [13:49] my name is Nick Sushka. I am [13:50] our collective impact manager [13:52] here in the city of Rockville. [13:54] I work in the Department of [13:55] Housing and Community [13:56] Development, where I support [13:57] the city [13:58] s grants to nonprofits [14:00] as well as partnership work [14:02] such as our Bank on Rockville [14:03] Coalition and our Rockville [14:05] goes. Efforts. I [14:05] m joined this [14:07] evening by my colleague Sarah [14:08] Mizell, who will introduce [14:13] herself. Good evening. My name [14:14] is Sarah Meisel. I [14:15] m the [14:17] programs and grant specialists [14:19] under the Department of Housing [14:21] and Community Development, um, [14:21] and I [14:22] m very excited to share [14:24] what Nick and I have been [14:30] working on today. So 4 our [14:36] presentation this evening. We [14:37] will be requesting feedback on [14:39] a few items, we [14:40] ll provide [14:42] background and a little bit of [14:43] overview of the grants programs [14:45] in question, as well as program [14:47] design changes, review next [14:49] steps if those design changes [14:51] are adopted and then have time [14:52] to hear the requested feedback [14:54] from mayor and council this [14:56] evening. We have 3 questions [14:58] this evening that we [14:58] re [15:00] requesting feedback on should [15:02] the city adopt 5 proposed [15:03] impact focus areas to guide [15:06] future grant funding. Decisions [15:08] should 1 or 2 of these impact [15:10] focus areas be prioritized in [15:12] fiscal year 28, and should the [15:14] city provide a streamlined [15:15] renewal pathway for [15:18] high-performing programs. So [15:20] some background about our [15:21] grants programs to nonprofit [15:22] organizations, we [15:23] ve provided [15:24] grants through 2 primary [15:26] programs are Human Services [15:27] grants and community [15:29] organization grants. These are [15:31] reorganized into a single [15:32] community services and [15:34] enrichment grants managed by [15:37] dhcd in fiscal year 25, and the [15:37] city [15:38] s community empowerment [15:41] matching grants were also moved [15:43] under dhcd and fy26. There have [15:45] been several benefits of this [15:48] reorganization, including [15:48] stronger nonprofit partnerships [15:51] as we have worked to not only [15:53] connect nonprofits that receive [15:55] grants more to city departments [15:56] and provide greater support [15:57] from a single grant management [15:59] team, but also to one another [16:01] through efforts like our [16:03] community partner cafes and our [16:04] nonprofit symposium, that [16:04] s [16:07] also allowed us to connect [16:08] nonprofits to more resources [16:09] across the region, like [16:11] nonprofit Montgomery and the [16:11] Maryland nonprofit Navigator. [16:12] We [16:14] ve worked To improve [16:16] outcomes tracking and [16:18] accountability through this [16:18] streamlined single grants [16:21] program, and through that we [16:21] ve [16:23] identified opportunities to [16:24] standardize and improve [16:25] administrative processes. Most [16:25] recently, we [16:27] ve been able to [16:29] make some changes about right [16:31] sizing requirements for smaller, [16:34] lower complexity grants up to [16:35] $10,000 and Sarah will share [16:38] more about the benefits of [16:39] those new requirements on the [16:43] following slides. Thank you so [16:45] much. Right, so, like Nick was [16:46] saying, um, we have already [16:49] begun a little bit of this [16:50] process transitioning, um, into [16:52] this model for the lower, [16:53] smaller, lower compre [16:56] complexity grants that are [16:58] $10,000 or under, um, so we [16:59] already have a model like this [17:01] in place with the community [17:02] empowerment Matching grant, [17:05] which will now be the Community [17:07] Empowerment mini grants. Um, [17:09] this model includes one-time [17:10] upfront payments, one-time [17:13] post-project reports. For the [17:14] quality assurance, um, and the [17:16] reason why this model is in [17:19] place, um, many of these [17:21] organizations are smaller [17:22] volunteer ran, and they [17:22] re [17:25] operating on very tight budgets [17:27] to put on events, maybe 1 to, [17:30] maybe 2 events a year. Um, so [17:32] they really rely on this [17:33] funding within their budgets [17:36] that are already constrained, [17:39] um, and 2 right size this model, [17:40] we do require a quality [17:42] assurance, but it would be a a [17:45] post-project report on the [17:47] metrics that they would submit [17:49] in the grants process in the [17:51] application process. Um, so for [17:54] fy 27. The Community [17:55] Empowerment Matching grant [17:57] would be administered by JUNE [18:01] 2027, um, but for the current [18:04] fy27 Community Services and [18:05] Enrichment grant for awards [18:07] that are $10,000 or less. We [18:07] ve [18:09] already shifted this model a [18:11] little bit, um, in the next [18:12] slide, you [18:15] ll see, um, we have [18:17] these organizations that fall [18:19] within the $10,000 threshold, [18:21] um, so for example, we have f. [18:24] Scott Fitzgerald, literacy. [18:26] Literacy, um, festival, um, as [18:28] well as the village Support [18:30] Network, um, next slide, please. [18:36] And so for the fy28 proposed [18:38] budget, we would include this [18:39] smaller shift from the [18:40] community services and [18:42] enrichment grant program to the [18:44] Mini Grant Program. So the mini [18:47] grant program for fy28 would [18:49] accept $10,000 request, that [18:52] would be the cap, and we [18:54] anticipate about 15 to 10 [18:56] applicants, um, for that grant [18:58] program. The application would [19:01] open in MARCH of 2027 and close [19:04] in APRIL, and in that time, we [19:06] would also convene the panel to [19:09] review those applications. So [19:11] then by MAY, um, we would have [19:12] a selection and recommendations [19:14] to the city manager [19:15] s office, [19:18] um, and then by JUNE 2027, we [19:20] would have the approval via [19:22] consent agenda item. So, with [19:23] that, I will pass it back over [19:26] to Nick. Um, thank you, Sarah. [19:28] Uh, this is, uh, as Sarah and I [19:30] noted, and process that we [19:30] ve [19:32] been able to begin to implement [19:34] in the current grant you [19:35] benefiting some of those [19:36] grantees who [19:37] ve already [19:38] received awards, as we [19:39] ve been [19:39] preparing their grant [19:40] agreements. We [19:41] ve been [19:42] notifying them about this shift, [19:43] letting them know that they [19:44] ll [19:46] be able to request that full [19:48] grant award upfront, um, that [19:50] has, as Sarah said, been [19:52] welcome news for some of these [19:53] organizations, particularly [19:56] those volunteer-run Stations, [19:58] and this shift to the fiscal [20:00] year deadline also allows us to [20:02] now have both grant programs on [20:04] the same timeline, and further [20:06] improve transparency, as Sarah [20:07] noted by including those [20:08] approved grants on the consent [20:10] agenda for mayor and council so [20:12] that you can see which grants [20:13] the community panel has [20:17] selected for these many grants. [20:19] So as we move into the rest of [20:19] tonight [20:20] s work session, we [20:20] ll [20:22] be talking about 2 further [20:24] program design changes that [20:24] we [20:26] re proposing, those are [20:28] primarily about the community [20:29] services and enrichment grants [20:31] program, so a little bit of [20:32] overview about this program, [20:35] last fiscal year, which we have [20:37] just finished closing out, we [20:40] supported 40 programs run by 34 [20:45] nonprofits with their total [20:45] funding of $1,781,110 as we [20:47] move into this. This fiscal [20:49] year, Sarah and I are in the [20:52] process of setting up our grant [20:54] agreements and preparing to [20:55] support 48 programs that will [20:57] be managed by 40 nonprofits for [21:03] a total of $184,500,790. These [21:05] grants are run by nonprofits [21:06] that meet community needs and [21:07] enrich the lives of Rockville [21:10] residents through a number of [21:11] different service approaches, [21:13] providing programs, events that [21:15] connect residents to one [21:15] another and help improve things [21:18] like access To needed community [21:20] services. For this particular [21:22] grant program, we require [21:24] quarterly reports, and we also [21:26] conduct an annual site visit. [21:28] This helps us to measure how [21:29] each grant is achieving its [21:31] outcomes, which are identified [21:32] by the grantees in their [21:35] application. It also has the [21:37] benefit of our staff being able [21:39] to support nonprofits if they [21:40] are encountering challenges, if [21:41] they need further support from [21:42] the city or from other [21:45] resources, and we can identify [21:46] opportunities from [21:48] collaboration between nonprofit [21:50] as I noted last year we were [21:53] able to resume the opportunity [21:54] to regularly convene nonprofit [21:55] partners, both that have grants [21:57] and that partner with the city [21:59] in other ways through our [22:01] community partner cafes and our [22:02] annual nonprofit symposium, and [22:04] Sarah and I provide ongoing [22:06] staff support throughout the [22:07] year, providing those [22:10] connections for nonprofits to [22:11] resources and helping to raise [22:12] more awareness for Rockville [22:14] residents of the opportunity to [22:15] benefit from these services, [22:17] attend nonprofit events. And [22:18] participate in the programs [22:21] that they lead. We have [22:23] continued to identify further [22:24] opportunities to strengthen [22:26] this program, as I mentioned, [22:26] we [22:27] ve seen benefits of the [22:29] reorganization so far, but we [22:31] believe there are still [22:32] opportunities to streamline [22:34] requirements, improve the [22:36] evaluation process, increase [22:38] alignment with the hoped for [22:40] outcomes of this grant program, [22:42] and importantly invest in more [22:43] long-term outcomes, even though [22:45] this grant program is a single [22:47] year of funding, we know that [22:48] many of our nonprofit [22:49] organizations apply for funds [22:51] year to year. And they [22:52] re doing [22:53] that with the understanding [22:56] that many of our community [22:57] goals and community needs are [22:58] going to take more than a year [22:59] to support or implement if [23:00] you [23:01] re running a youth [23:02] development program, you [23:03] re [23:04] working with elementary school [23:05] students through high school, [23:07] you have multi-year goals, of [23:09] course, and so we [23:09] ve identified [23:11] some opportunities for the city [23:13] to further support long-term [23:14] outcomes that we know that many [23:15] of our partners are also aiming [23:18] for. The program design changes [23:19] that we [23:20] ll discuss this evening [23:22] have been formed by many [23:23] different sources. The primary [23:26] of them being the city of [23:26] Rockville [23:27] s 5 guiding [23:28] principles. In addition, we [23:30] looked at the recently [23:31] completed Rockville Human [23:33] Services needs assessment, [23:34] which provided opportunities [23:37] for community members, [23:38] nonprofit organizations and [23:40] members of our Human Services [23:42] Advisory commission to help us [23:44] understand the evolving needs [23:45] of Rockville residents, we [23:46] ve [23:46] received feedback from multiple [23:49] grantees. Who have continued to [23:51] provide feedback to us both [23:53] directly as city staff and to [23:54] mayor and council as we noted, [23:56] we complete annual site visits [23:57] with our grantees, and we [23:57] ve [23:58] had many other opportunities to [24:01] look beyond the city as well as [24:03] we consider grantmaking best [24:04] practices and the [24:05] evidence-based practices that [24:08] are outlined in frameworks like [24:09] the upward mobility framework [24:09] and the economic mobility [24:13] catalog. Our first [24:15] recommendation for this evening [24:17] is to adopt impact focus areas. [24:19] This is arising from a few [24:21] different needs. One need that [24:23] we see is for well-defined [24:26] criteria to help our community [24:27] panel evaluate them the many [24:29] worthy projects that we receive [24:31] requests for. As I noted in the [24:33] year that we are headed into [24:37] will be funding about $1.8 [24:38] million in grants for 48 [24:40] projects, but our community [24:40] panel received requests for 2.8. [24:45] Million dollars in projects, so [24:46] we expect those applications to [24:48] continue to greatly exceed [24:49] available funding, we think [24:54] that we will be best able to [24:55] support organizations and [24:56] prioritizing applications when [24:57] they know what those grants are [24:59] going to be evaluated against, [25:01] and we want to make sure that [25:02] our community panel has clear [25:06] criteria that they can use to [25:08] help them recommend among many [25:10] worthy projects. Under this [25:10] framework, proposals that are [25:13] most Aligned with the impact [25:15] focus areas would be [25:16] competitive for the highest [25:18] ratings, but importantly, we [25:20] wanted to maintain flexibility [25:22] for proposals beyond the focus [25:26] areas as well. And so we [25:26] ve [25:28] proposed to continue to [25:29] prioritize our service areas, [25:31] as you can see on the bottom of [25:34] this slide, the city has going [25:37] into this grant year, 9 service [25:38] areas, including adult [25:40] education, arts and culture, [25:42] housing services, senior [25:43] services, and we [25:44] re proposing [25:47] in the next grant cycle to [25:49] continue to ask organizations [25:51] to identify one or more service [25:53] areas, as well as describe the [25:54] program and program output. [25:55] Outcomes. This is something [25:55] that [25:57] s been standard in our [25:58] application for the last couple [26:01] of years. What we would like to [26:03] add our 5 recommended impact [26:06] focus areas that are more [26:07] outcomes-focused and will help [26:09] us to establish clear criteria [26:11] for the community panel to [26:13] evaluate how well a proposed [26:16] project aligns with a hoped for [26:19] outcome. These 5 impact focus [26:21] areas are housing stability, [26:24] economic mobility, Youth and [26:26] family success, service access [26:28] and navigation and community [26:33] enrichment and belonging. These [26:35] 5 impact focus areas if adopted, [26:37] would allow us to incorporate [26:40] them into the application and [26:42] evaluation, and would allow [26:44] organizations to identify how [26:45] their services would align with [26:48] one or more of those impact [26:50] focus areas. So for example, if [26:52] we look at the impact focus [26:54] area community enrichment and [26:55] belonging, Preferred strategies [26:58] that we can solicit in fy28 [26:59] applications could include [27:00] programs that help reduce [27:04] social isolation. Or proposals [27:07] for arts, culture, or community [27:08] building activities that [27:10] increase belonging or civic [27:12] connection and an organization [27:12] that [27:14] s proposing a program [27:14] could identify that they [27:14] ll [27:18] provide an arts and cultural [27:20] program that supports community [27:21] enrichment, and they could [27:23] include how they would measure [27:25] how well their programs are [27:28] increasing belonging. Or, for [27:30] example, an organization that [27:31] s [27:34] providing food distribution [27:35] services might select youth and [27:37] family success if the primary [27:39] outcome of their program is [27:41] meant to support youth in [27:43] schools, and reduce hunger in [27:45] families. So it will really be [27:47] up to the organizations to, um, [27:49] identify how they measure the [27:50] outcomes of their programs and [27:51] how those would align with one [27:53] or more of our 5 impact focus [27:55] areas. And then I want to [27:55] emphasize that we would [27:59] continue. To ask organizations [28:01] to identify a service area that [28:03] aligns with our current service [28:05] areas. We will also continue as [28:08] we currently do, to ask and [28:09] assess how proposals support [28:10] our city [28:11] s Jedi priorities. [28:11] We [28:12] ve just recently adopted a [28:13] strategic plan for Jedi at the [28:15] seti, and this is a great [28:18] opportunity for us to align [28:20] those applications with the [28:22] Jedi priorities, and we would [28:25] continue to ask how applicants [28:25] would improve access [28:27] opportunity, and outcome. For [28:28] Rockville residents, that would [28:30] be across any of these 5 impact [28:32] focus areas, but what would be [28:34] different is that we would be [28:35] able to integrate the impact [28:38] focus areas into the [28:39] application and provide a way [28:41] for our community panel to [28:42] evaluate how well a proposal [28:47] would achieve those outcomes. [28:48] Our second recommendation for a [28:50] program design change this [28:51] evening, it [28:52] s to streamline [28:53] renewal for high-performing [28:56] programs. As we mentioned, many [28:59] of our applications come from [29:01] organizations that are trying [29:02] to achieve outcomes that [29:03] necessitate more than 1 year of [29:05] funding. We know that many of [29:07] the needs that our residents [29:08] have or the community goals [29:09] that we [29:09] re trying to support [29:11] need more than 1 year of [29:14] funding. We also are aiming to [29:16] reduce the application burden [29:17] for high-performing programs [29:18] that are requesting renewal [29:21] funding. What we mean by [29:22] renewal funding are the [29:23] applications we receive each [29:25] year, for existing programs [29:28] that are asking for the same [29:29] amount of funding. We do [29:30] receive a significant number of [29:33] those applications each year. [29:34] So the second recommendation [29:34] that we [29:35] re seeking your [29:36] feedback on this evening would [29:40] be to allow a streamlined [29:41] renewal for high-performing [29:42] programs that are seeking [29:43] funding to maintain that [29:45] program. We would recommend [29:46] that we allow those [29:49] high-performing programs up to [29:51] 2 years of renewals. We could [29:53] include a modest cost of [29:54] service adjustment, subject to [29:57] available funding in the city [29:59] budget, and after 2 renewal [30:00] years, those programs would [30:01] need to resubmit a full [30:02] application and part [30:03] participate in the review [30:06] process again. Importantly, [30:07] this doesn [30:07] t mean that [30:08] organizations are never [30:10] reviewed, you would always [30:11] begin with a full application [30:13] that is reviewed by the [30:14] community panel, recommended [30:17] for funding, and then we would [30:19] use the site visits and the [30:21] quarterly reports to help us [30:22] identify high performing [30:24] programs that are meeting their [30:26] performance metrics and are [30:27] achieving their program [30:28] outcomes. We would begin that [30:30] process in the year ahead, [30:33] which would allow us to then [30:33] identify high-performing [30:34] programs that could seek a [30:38] renewal. For next year. If we [30:40] adopt this approach, we can [30:42] focus our annual competitive [30:44] review process on other [30:47] applications, such as [30:48] applications from new [30:51] organizations, proposals for [30:52] new programs or organizations [30:54] that are undergoing significant [30:58] changes, and we can provide [30:59] more consistent support to [31:01] organizations that are seeking [31:02] to continue a program with [31:03] largely the same amount of [31:04] funding who have already shown [31:06] that They are achieving the [31:09] outcomes of that program. If [31:11] these changes are adopted, [31:12] staff will finalize program [31:14] changes based on mayor and [31:16] council feedback this evening. [31:16] We [31:18] ll communicate to current [31:19] and prospective grantees [31:21] through the application [31:22] materials are technical [31:23] sessions, and our next [31:25] community partner cafe, that [31:27] would take place in SEPTEMBER [31:30] next month, when we launched [31:31] the fa28 Community Services and [31:33] enrichment application, we [31:34] would incorporate those 5 [31:36] impact focus areas, again, that [31:37] application will launch next [31:39] month, and when our community [31:41] Panel convened it would review [31:43] the applications with impact [31:44] focus areas incorporated into [31:46] the evaluation criteria. This [31:48] would allow us over the coming [31:50] year to then measure those [31:51] high-performing programs that [31:52] are achieving their outcomes, [31:55] and we could offer streamlined [31:58] renewals next AUGUST before the [31:58] launch of the fy29 application [32:02] cycle. So we look forward to [32:03] hearing your feedback this [32:04] evening again on those 3 [32:07] questions, should the city [32:09] adopt 5 proposed impact focus [32:11] areas to guide future grant [32:13] funding decisions, household [32:15] stability, economic mobility, [32:16] youth and family success, [32:18] service access and navigation, [32:18] and community enrichment and [32:21] belonging. And should we [32:23] prioritize 1 or 2 of these [32:24] impact focus areas in the next [32:26] grant cycle, fy 28, and lastly, [32:28] should the city provide a [32:30] streamlined renewal pathway for [32:31] high-performing programs. We [32:32] look forward to hearing your [32:36] feedback. I want to say thank [32:38] you very much for thinking so [32:39] critically about the programs [32:41] and the grants so that we can [32:43] continue to evolve as a city. I [32:45] know that this has been a [32:46] progression and things have [32:48] changed to make things more [32:50] effective, uh, and, uh, [32:51] targeted over time. I also want [32:53] to just thank the nonprofit [32:55] community members who are doing [32:57] such incredible work that [32:57] s [32:58] really an extension where [32:58] government can [33:00] t do, but we can [33:03] support and lift up, uh, and to [33:03] really respect and recognize [33:05] them as third party. In Mary [33:06] s [33:08] intermediaries that are doing [33:10] really good social safety [33:11] network programming on behalf [33:12] of the city, uh, and I know I [33:13] speak on behalf of my [33:14] colleagues that were just so [33:17] thankful that we have [33:19] incredible nonprofits. Uh, I [33:20] also acknowledge that times [33:22] have been really hard with a [33:23] lot of changes that are [33:25] happening in the federal space [33:27] that are impacting, uh, grants [33:28] and payment schedules, etc. And [33:28] there [33:29] s been more uncertainty, [33:31] so thank you for having the [33:32] nonprofit roundtable so we can [33:33] wrap our arms around what is [33:35] happening, what is the [33:36] Realistic, uh, life cycle of [33:38] some of the products that [33:39] nonprofits are working on and [33:40] what are their challenges and [33:41] what are the opportunities that [33:42] we can be better and more [33:44] responsive to our community, so [33:44] i [33:45] ll just say thank you on [33:45] behalf of all of us. I [33:46] m going [33:49] to, I have several questions, [33:50] uh, but more about just fine [33:51] tuning and figuring out, um, [33:53] how do we adjust some of these [33:55] items, but I really just say I [33:57] agree with, with the concept [33:58] and love what you have done [33:59] here. I wanna, I [34:00] m gonna call [34:01] on as if we were starting from [34:03] the right of me on the dais, uh, [34:03] and then we [34:06] ll move. To the [34:08] left of where we normally sit. [34:08] So with that, I [34:09] m gonna turn it [34:12] over to Councilor Van Grack. [34:14] Thank you, Mayor, and, uh, [34:15] thank you guys for putting this [34:17] together. I know a lot of us [34:19] have talked, um, significantly [34:21] over the past number of years [34:23] about trying to make this [34:25] entire process more smooth, [34:28] more smooth for the nonprofits [34:29] to understand more streamlined [34:30] and better understanding and [34:33] focused. So this is exactly [34:33] what I think we want to see, [34:35] and I think with the nonprofits [34:38] in the community want to see, [34:39] um, with regard to the feedback [34:42] first, and I think your number [34:45] 3 is really critical. A [34:46] streamlined renewal path path [34:47] path pathway path for [34:49] high-performing programs, we [34:49] ve [34:52] heard it continually from the [34:53] nonprofits that sometimes going [34:55] through the process, I mean, [34:55] I [34:56] ve heard from nonprofits [34:58] where the person who was in [35:00] charge of it missed the packet, [35:02] you know, and all of a sudden, [35:02] they [35:03] re behind the eight ball [35:06] and things get off track. So [35:07] providing a streamlined renewal [35:09] pathway, I think is critical [35:10] and exactly the right way of [35:12] thinking about this. Um, with [35:14] regard to kind of your 1st 2 [35:16] questions, um, I, I, I wanna [35:18] understand a little bit about [35:18] essentially what we [35:19] re doing [35:21] here, because I know we [35:23] ve got [35:23] some significant nonprofit [35:25] partners that we work with, are [35:28] we just talking about those who [35:30] are regularly have been under [35:31] $10,000 because we [35:32] ve got some [35:33] significant partners I know who [35:38] have been a Above $10,000 who [35:40] are significant partners that [35:42] do amazing things. I know [35:42] there [35:42] s community reach. I know [35:43] there [35:44] s a Rockville Volunteer [35:45] Fire Department. I know there [35:45] s, [35:47] you know, sister cities, are we [35:49] talking about some of these [35:50] large partners as well, or we [35:52] solely talking about some of [35:54] these larger grants, or a [35:58] combination of both. Yeah, [36:00] thank you for that question. Uh, [36:03] just to make sure that I [36:05] understand you referenced the [36:07] grants above 10,000 and below [36:10] 10,000, um, are you asking if [36:13] the program design changes for [36:15] the impact focus areas would [36:17] affect the $10,000 above grants, [36:21] or are you asking if the [36:22] streamlined one-time payment [36:24] upfront and one-time project [36:25] report at the end would only [36:26] affect those grants under [36:28] 10,000. I, I [36:28] m actually asking [36:29] about both. I [36:30] m trying to [36:31] understand this process that [36:31] we [36:33] re trying to get at, and are [36:34] we reforming a certain section [36:36] of them? Are we looking to [36:38] reform all of them? How is some [36:40] of the decisions and the focus [36:40] that we [36:41] re doing here, going to [36:43] apply to all of our nonprofit [36:46] partners, both the ones before [36:47] under 10,000 and the ones above [36:49] or below and above. Thank you [36:51] for that. I understand the [36:53] questions. So the changes that [36:56] are underway are to the [36:57] community empowerment Matching [36:58] grant program that was [37:00] previously a very small [37:02] neighborhood focused, uh, [37:03] program that some nonprofits [37:05] participated in, awards were [37:08] typically 500 to $1000 we are [37:11] shifting that to a community [37:12] empowerment mini grant program [37:15] that will accept proposals up [37:17] to $10,000 now, and that aligns [37:18] with the city [37:21] s other fiscal Go, [37:22] uh, thresholds where we can do [37:24] gx payments, for instance, [37:27] through procurement up to [37:28] $10,000 so we [37:29] ve aligned those [37:31] smaller, lower complexity [37:34] grants and have taken the [37:35] opportunity there to streamline [37:36] so that we can do a single [37:38] upfront payment up to 10,000 [37:40] and just require that one end [37:41] of project report, but you [37:41] re [37:43] correct, that would be limited [37:45] to proposals that are $10,000 [37:47] or less for the new community [37:49] apartment mini grants. Exactly [37:50] my understanding, I just want [37:52] to make sure because I know [37:53] there have been some questions [37:53] that I [37:54] ve gotten from folks [37:56] with regard to uh the [37:57] understanding. Um, here [37:57] s [37:59] another question I had. You, [38:00] you might have recall, we [38:00] ve [38:02] had a number of conversations [38:06] from the dais with regard to [38:07] grants and proposals with [38:09] regard to projects that either [38:10] the city might be able to [38:11] provide it, or there [38:12] s other [38:13] avenues. I know one of the [38:14] examples I know MADAM Mayors [38:15] talked about it, I [38:16] ve talked [38:17] about it, deals with some of [38:20] the um Legal Services, um, that [38:23] I know that there are other [38:24] avenues out there with regard [38:27] to, um, with regard to In [38:28] absence of our funding, has [38:32] there been some Discussion with [38:34] regard to guiding our future [38:36] grant funding decisions with [38:38] regard to what other [38:39] opportunities are out there [38:40] when choosing which grants [38:40] we [38:42] re gonna go forward with the [38:47] limited funds that we have. So, [38:49] thank you for the question [38:52] about have there been [38:53] discussion of guiding those [38:54] applications when there are [38:56] other services that are being [38:57] provided, that [38:58] s not something [39:01] that was discussed per se in [39:04] these program design changes, [39:05] although the evaluation [39:07] criteria do currently ask if [39:09] there is a community need or a [39:10] gap that [39:12] s being met, and I [39:12] would anticipate that [39:14] continuing to be a part of the [39:16] evaluation, but to your [39:16] question, that specific [39:21] conversa has not taken place. [39:24] Um, and so I guess, uh, one [39:25] more question, um, I know that [39:27] a number of the nonprofits that [39:33] have come to us from the city. [39:34] Are uh squarely within helpful [39:36] issues, but might not be [39:39] squarely within one of these [39:41] impact focus areas. Are we [39:43] treating these impact focus [39:47] areas broadly to ensure that [39:47] we [39:47] re covering what [39:47] s needed, [39:49] and I guess my worry here is, [39:50] first of all, I love the idea [39:52] of the impact focus areas. I [39:53] think that [39:53] s absolutely our [39:54] right to make sure they [39:55] re in [40:01] some focus areas. My one worry. [40:02] I accidentally hit my mute [40:05] button. Um, my one worry is [40:05] that we [40:06] re necessarily, I don [40:06] t [40:09] want these to be prohibitive [40:11] with regard to a program, and [40:12] just one example that I [40:13] m, I [40:14] would be thinking of, and I [40:14] know that they [40:16] ve been a little [40:17] bit outside of $10,000 but I [40:17] m [40:19] using it as an example because [40:20] it works. The Rockville, [40:22] Science Center. Rockville [40:24] Science Center, I would believe [40:24] there [40:25] s youth and family [40:26] success, and there [40:27] s community [40:29] enrichment and belonging, but [40:29] one could have it as a separate. [40:33] Whole category for what they [40:34] provide to the city, and I just [40:37] wanna make sure that These [40:39] ideas of these impact focus [40:39] areas aren [40:40] t necessarily going [40:45] to be a hurdle if one does an [40:45] organization doesn [40:46] t fall 100% [40:49] behind 1 or 2 of the proposed [40:59] funding areas. Nick, you want [41:01] me to take that one? Uh, sure, [41:03] go ahead, Jeff. Ok, thanks. Um, [41:04] COUNCILMAN Van Grak, I wanna [41:05] want to move back. I [41:06] m gonna [41:07] break a rule that I always say [41:09] to the team about going back to [41:09] a question that [41:10] s been asked [41:12] and answered, but, um, you and [41:13] a couple other members of [41:15] council had talked to me about [41:17] services that people have [41:18] requested for grants such as [41:20] legal services that can be [41:22] provided through other means. [41:23] We have talked about that a [41:24] little bit, um, we are going to [41:26] make sure that when people are [41:27] applying for grants this year, [41:28] we [41:29] re gonna make sure that one, [41:29] they [41:30] re trying to hit these 5 [41:32] impact areas, but secondarily, [41:34] If we know there [41:35] s another [41:36] entity that provides funding [41:37] like for legal services, we [41:37] re [41:39] gonna try to steer them there, [41:39] because what that [41:40] s gonna do is [41:40] it [41:41] s gonna provide funding for [41:42] some other programs, so I heard [41:43] that loud and clear from [41:44] counsel, and I [41:45] ll talk to the [41:46] team about that. Um, the other [41:47] thing I [41:48] ll mention is just to [41:49] answer your more recent [41:51] question is, yes, the goal is [41:54] to really try to make sure that [41:56] grantees are looking very [41:57] diligently at those 5, impact [41:59] areas that are on your screen, [42:01] but yes, there are going to be [42:02] broad enough that people People [42:04] can make an argument to us, and [42:04] I can [42:05] t stress that enough, of [42:07] where they think their grant [42:08] falls into one of those [42:10] categories. And then the [42:11] evaluation committee is really [42:12] gonna kind of slice it and dice [42:14] it and say, yeah, we agree, or [42:15] it falls a little bit short, [42:15] and if it [42:17] s a little short, [42:17] it [42:18] ll be ranked lower relative [42:19] to the ones that we know are [42:20] right on point, so hopefully [42:23] that answers the question. No, [42:23] that [42:25] s perfect. Uh, you guys [42:26] have both answered the [42:27] questions. So that, that helps [42:29] me with my feedback. So, with [42:30] those answered, number 1, [42:33] should the city adopt the 5 [42:36] proposed impact focus areas? [42:38] Yes, focusing answers, and [42:39] there are nonprofit partners to [42:41] those areas are good, however, [42:43] that leads me to the number 2, [42:44] where I actually am not in [42:48] favor of that. Um, I think that [42:50] we should be allowing folks and [42:51] allowing nonprofits to be [42:54] within those, the impact. Focus [42:54] areas because we don [42:55] t know [42:55] what [42:56] s out there and what [42:57] programs are going to be [42:58] proposed, and I would hate to [42:59] say that we [43:00] re going to [43:02] prioritize 2 out of the 5, only [43:05] to find out that because we [43:05] didn [43:06] t prioritize one of those [43:07] other areas we [43:08] ve lost out on [43:09] supporting a fantastic program. [43:11] So I think you guys are [43:12] absolutely right to be focusing [43:14] and ensuring that our nonprofit [43:16] partners are focusing in areas, [43:17] but I don [43:18] t want to necessarily [43:19] just limit it to 1 or 2 per [43:21] year, I want to give them the [43:23] opportunity to say, hey, We [43:23] re [43:24] gonna support our community in [43:26] one of these 5 ways. But [43:28] fantastic, I love your, the [43:30] thinking, I love the direction, [43:32] and I love the focused energy, [43:33] so fantastic job. I really [43:34] appreciate what you guys have [43:37] done. Thank you, council member. [43:51] We now move on to coman Shaw. [43:54] Can you hear me? We can hear [43:58] you. Thank you. I also wanna [43:59] Echo my There [44:03] s a Echo. Mhm. [44:06] Can you, uh, come back to me. I [44:06] think there [44:08] s some tech issues. [44:08] No problem. I [44:09] ll come back to [44:09] you after Council member [44:13] Jackson. All right, thank you, [44:14] uh, mayor. So first of all, let [44:16] me say, excellent presentation [44:18] and excellent work, um, I [44:18] ve [44:20] been, uh, uh, talking about [44:22] this with city manager and with [44:23] my colleagues for a long time [44:26] and, you know, the subject of [44:28] nonprofits and, um, working [44:29] with the city is something [44:29] that [44:30] s near and dear to, I [44:32] think, all of our hearts, and [44:32] we [44:35] ve really done, or you guys, [44:37] sorry, not we, you have really [44:40] done a stellar job and doing [44:40] outreach to nonprofits, um, [44:43] holding. Um, uh, seminars and [44:46] the, the, the, uh, the recent, [44:47] uh, meeting that was held at [44:50] the second sem uh um Oh, summit, [44:52] or whatever it was, uh, I [44:52] ll [44:53] call it a summit, but the [44:55] second one was, it was great, [44:57] and then the nonprofit cafes [44:58] con continue in that mold, and [45:00] I know that I [45:01] ve been talking [45:03] about, um, having a priorities, [45:06] uh, for, uh, the grants that we [45:08] give, sorry, uh, the cat and [45:09] dog are fighting, so ignore [45:12] that background noise, um, but [45:12] I [45:13] ve been talking about, uh, [45:15] having these, uh, uh, [45:17] priorities, and I think this is [45:18] right in the right direction, [45:21] um. I, I, so number one, I say [45:24] yes. Um, number 2, I [45:24] m a little [45:26] bit with uh council member Van [45:29] Grack on, on the answer there, [45:31] um, not really for any other [45:34] reason other than, I think it [45:34] s [45:38] probably too soon, uh, to, um, [45:39] uh, drill down into these areas [45:41] and, and which one should be [45:42] funded. I think we need some [45:46] more data, um, uh, to look at, [45:48] uh, that, and then prioritize [45:49] the areas. So I think when you [45:51] another year or 2 years to [45:52] actually, um, you know, uh, [45:54] prioritize, uh, the, the focus [45:59] areas. Um. I also had a little [46:01] question and, and, uh, this is [46:03] for, for, uh, um, neck or, uh, [46:05] maybe, uh, the city manager, [46:10] but Are we taking care that we [46:12] in an attempt to put parameters [46:15] in place and make it, um, uh, [46:19] easier for, uh, grantees to, uh, [46:20] understand what we [46:20] re asking [46:22] for, um, are we in fact making [46:25] it harder and will there be [46:28] assistance for, for them, uh, [46:32] to navigate this new process. I [46:32] appreciate that question very [46:35] much, thank you, yes, we [46:37] definitely want to make sure [46:39] that not only do we provide [46:41] that assistance through the [46:42] application instructions and [46:44] our technical sessions, which [46:47] will provide over a number of [46:48] different options and days as [46:50] well as recorded so they can be [46:52] accessed after the technical [46:54] sessions, but we want to [46:55] provide that support, [46:57] especially to anyone who might [46:59] be, um, returning and [47:00] encountering a different [47:02] process, uh, also The materials [47:04] that Sarah has prepared, I [47:07] think do a really good job of [47:09] showing how the application as [47:11] it is currently designed where [47:13] the nonprofits are identifying [47:15] a service area really connects [47:17] to the impact focus areas, so [47:17] we [47:18] re trained to do our due [47:20] diligence to show that this [47:20] isn [47:23] t, um, a completely new, um, [47:24] requirement, it [47:25] s asking them [47:26] to make that connection between [47:28] their current program, their [47:29] current services, and the [47:30] outcomes that they [47:30] re proposing. [47:33] So that we can see how it maps [47:34] to one of these 5 impact areas, [47:38] so we hope that it will be both [47:39] a very straightforward change [47:39] and we [47:41] re planning for how to [47:43] support the organizations as [47:43] they navigate the new [47:45] application. All right. No, [47:46] that, that [47:47] s perfect. Thank you. [47:49] So, the, the question on number [47:53] 3, you know, what, and I, I, [47:54] maybe you addressed it in your [47:55] presentation. I just wanna, uh, [47:57] go back to it for a second. [47:57] It [47:59] s what is a high performing [48:01] grant or program. Yeah, thank [48:04] you for that question. So we [48:06] currently have our quarterly [48:08] reports that are nonprofits [48:10] provide, um, they show us in [48:11] those quarterly reports, if [48:12] they [48:14] re on track to reach their [48:15] program metrics, these are [48:18] metrics that they propose in [48:19] their application when the city [48:20] awards them a grant if it [48:21] s, [48:23] for instance, less than the [48:24] amount requested, they have an [48:26] opportunity to adjust those [48:27] metrics, but they tell us what [48:29] they will be tracking this year, [48:30] and each quarter they tell us [48:32] if there are On track to reach [48:35] those metrics. We also have [48:36] some qualitative questions [48:37] where they can provide a [48:39] narrative of, you know, what [48:39] s [48:40] going well, what are some [48:41] challenges they [48:41] ve encountered, [48:43] and if they need any assistance [48:44] or support, so we do that [48:46] through each of the quarterly [48:47] reports, and during the site [48:49] visits, we actually have a [48:51] virtual or in-person site visit [48:53] where we dive deeper into those [48:55] program outcomes and if they [48:55] re [48:56] on track or if they [48:57] re not, and [48:57] what they [48:58] re doing to adjust so [48:59] that they can meet the goals of [49:01] their grant and they can Serve [49:02] Rockville residents in the way [49:05] that they said they would, um, [49:05] so we [49:06] ve currently already been [49:07] doing that. What we haven [49:08] t [49:10] done in the past is, um, [49:14] assigned, um, a, a way of [49:16] telling the organizations if [49:16] they [49:18] re meeting those metrics [49:19] and then letting them know [49:20] overall how they [49:20] ve done. It [49:20] s [49:22] been more of a, yes, thank you [49:23] for your support, it meets the [49:25] goals. Thank you for the site [49:26] visit. It meets the [49:28] requirements, uh, what we would [49:29] do in the year ahead is create [49:33] a threshold. So that we could [49:34] tell nonprofit organizations, [49:36] for example, if you [49:36] re reaching [49:39] 80% or more of your metrics and [49:39] you [49:41] re in compliance with the [49:42] grant requirements, then you [49:44] can qualify as a high [49:46] performing program, so we look [49:47] to use the current process [49:47] that [49:49] s in place just to [49:51] establish more of a feedback to [49:51] the nonprofit throughout the [49:53] year so they know where they [49:53] re [49:55] at, and then have that actually [49:57] be a concrete way to provide a [49:59] streamlined renewal. No, well, [50:01] thank you, and honestly, i [50:03] think that this uh high [50:05] performing programs that this, [50:06] that streamline renewable power [50:08] pathway is a really great thing. [50:10] And so I thank you for actually [50:11] thinking, uh, about how to [50:13] improve the, the, the, the [50:14] grant process, which I think [50:14] it [50:15] s gonna do a lot of good for [50:18] the city as well as for, uh, [50:19] obviously the nonprofits who [50:19] don [50:20] t have to take their time [50:22] and, and energy, uh, applying [50:24] year after year after year when [50:24] they [50:25] re actually doing [50:26] everything right. Um, and I [50:27] thank you too. I, I [50:27] ve heard [50:30] from various nonprofit Profits, [50:31] um, who you [50:33] ve already kind of [50:34] streamlined it or taking away [50:36] some of the requirements, uh, [50:39] for reporting that were just [50:41] extraneous and, um, I think [50:41] that that [50:43] s really helpful to [50:44] just boil it down to the meat [50:45] of what they [50:46] re trying to do, [50:49] rather than, uh, mentoring, um, [50:50] statistics or other things that [50:52] really were kind of on the [50:53] periphery, so I know that [50:53] there [50:54] s some progress already, [50:56] so thank you for that, but [50:57] thank you for these, uh, as [50:59] well. And then just to a couple [51:03] of other questions. Um The [51:04] community in empowering [51:06] matching program, um, under [51:08] $10,000. And I, I [51:08] m not, and I [51:09] know I talked to the city [51:11] manager about it, so maybe, uh, [51:12] Jeff, this is a question for [51:14] you. Does that take the place [51:18] of what is in your, uh, office, [51:22] uh, for,, small, uh, grants, um, [51:24] uh, for like the neighborhood [51:27] associations or moon bounces or [51:28] little things like that, uh, [51:30] would those go through the [51:32] community empowerment, uh, the [51:33] mini grant program that we [51:33] re [51:35] setting up now, uh, or is that [51:37] still in your shop, uh, for, uh [51:39] Uh, those little, little grants. [51:40] Yeah, there [51:42] s still 2 different, [51:43] um, grants, uh, mini grants [51:43] that we [51:44] re talking about are [51:46] the ones less than $10,000 but [51:47] the small neighborhood grants [51:47] that we [51:49] re talking about, less [51:50] than $1000. Yeah, those are [51:52] still be a separate process, [51:53] very streamlined, quick [51:54] , [51:56] they get the money upfront, [51:57] simple reporting process. Thank [51:58] you. Oh, perfect. Thank you so [52:01] much for, for just clarifying [52:03] that. Um, I think this, this, [52:05] uh, under $10,000 is great. And [52:06] so one final, final question, [52:07] and I know I [52:08] ve talked about it [52:10] with the, the city manager and [52:12] just, but I, I wanna just bring [52:13] it up again because I just [52:16] noticed it, uh, as I was [52:17] looking through the [52:19] presentation, so the f. Scott [52:23] Fisred Literary Festival. So [52:27] what is it that we, um, uh, uh [52:31] Have an mou or, uh, that, that, [52:33] that we do with the uh f. Scott [52:34] Fitzgerald, and I [52:35] m not picking [52:36] on them. It could be a number [52:38] of things, but I just wanna, uh, [52:40] uh Just bear with me for a [52:42] second and, and, and let me [52:44] know what is it that we [52:46] actually contract for the f [52:47] Scott Fitzgerald Literary [52:49] Festival for. Nick, I think you [52:51] have a complete answer. Go [52:54] ahead. Yeah, sure. Uh, so, yeah, [52:56] constable Jackson that f. Scott [52:58] Literary Festival or some of [53:00] these other similar grants that [53:04] provide like a one-time event, [53:07] um, we currently have a grant [53:09] agreement, and it contracts [53:10] with them according to what [53:11] they put in their application. [53:13] So for instance, with the f. [53:15] Scott Literary Festival, they [53:16] proposed that they [53:16] ll host [53:17] their, um, weekend festival [53:18] that they [53:20] ll Provide a certain [53:22] number of workshops and [53:24] scholarships as part of their [53:26] short story contest, and that [53:29] is still all encompassed in one [53:31] single grant agreement, uh, the [53:34] major chef in pulling them into [53:36] the $10,000 and less grant [53:38] threshold is that we are not [53:40] going to ask them to do a [53:41] quarterly report, they will not [53:43] have to do an annual site visit [53:44] once the grant agreement is [53:46] signed, notarized, and returned [53:47] once we [53:47] ve got it on our end [53:50] completed. We can provide them [53:52] with their full grant upfront, [53:54] and then very similar to those [53:55] former neighborhood projects [53:56] that you were talking about, [53:57] the Community empowerment [53:58] matching grants, they [53:58] ll just [54:00] be 1 single end of project [54:02] report. So just when [54:04] streamlines it for f. Scott [54:05] Fitzgerald as an example. No, [54:05] and that [54:05] s, that [54:06] s perfect, and [54:07] what I was really getting at, [54:09] and thank you for the, the [54:10] answer and for clarifying what [54:12] it is and what it isn [54:12] t is I [54:14] just wanted to make sure that [54:17] as Scott Fitzgerald, um any [54:17] others that really are like, uh, [54:20] events or Sponsorships should [54:22] not go through the grant [54:25] process, but are separate. So, [54:25] um, and I think I [54:26] ve talked to [54:27] the city manager about that as [54:28] well, and that that we [54:28] re [54:31] setting up a separate, uh, Uh, [54:32] programming process, and I [54:32] won [54:33] t go into that, but, but no, [54:35] thank you so much for all your [54:36] work and I, uh, that [54:37] s it for [54:39] my questions and, uh, uh, I [54:41] turned back over to you, mayor. [54:42] Thank you very much, I [54:43] appreciate all the comments and [54:45] questions of my colleagues. I [54:46] wanted to turn back to [54:51] COUNCILMAN Bra Shaw. Thank you. [54:58] Ah Uh, I wanted to echo my [54:59] There [55:00] s still a very strong [55:01] echo. Could you just circle [55:06] back again? Sounds ok now. The [55:08] last part of what you said. If [55:09] you wanna proceed echo is [55:12] really loud in the rooms, so I [55:12] can [55:14] t. Ok. All right, sounds [55:17] good. Well, then that would be, [55:20] uh, my turn then I will go, um, [55:22] so I just wanted to, uh, thank [55:24] staff again, uh, where I began [55:25] and, and echo the comments of [55:27] my colleagues. I have a few [55:30] questions and I did get some [55:31] feedback from grantees, and I [55:32] want to honor the feedback that [55:32] I [55:33] ve heard as well. I [55:33] ll start [55:35] with some of my questions [55:38] though. Um, one is, uh Just [55:39] trying to unders on your first [55:41] question, adopt the 5 proposed [55:42] impact focus areas. I think [55:44] this is spot on to try to help [55:45] people understand what the [55:46] strategic areas that we as a [55:48] mayor and council and the city [55:50] is trying to advance, you know, [55:50] there [55:50] s, there [55:51] s a lot to be [55:52] done in the world and we [55:52] re [55:53] trying to make sure that we [55:53] re [55:54] providing support where it [55:54] s [55:56] needed most, but also that [55:56] we [55:57] re advancing the strategic [56:00] priorities of, of, of our city, [56:02] uh, so the, I do have a few [56:03] questions about these [56:04] categories if that [56:05] s ok. Um, [56:05] one is I [56:06] m trying to figure out, [56:09] uh. As we look at housing [56:10] stability, economic mobility, [56:12] youth and family success, [56:13] service access and navigation, [56:15] and community enrichment and [56:16] belonging. I appreciate, uh, [56:17] Mashika, what you said is that [56:18] sometimes people can fit into [56:19] one or the other. I do feel [56:21] like we did nicely call out [56:23] housing, but there are 2 other [56:24] important areas that have been [56:26] a strategic part of our grant [56:28] program, which are, uh, the [56:30] food services because there has [56:31] been food insecurity, uh, [56:32] through covid, there was food [56:33] insecurity as a result of some [56:34] of the federal changes. So we, [56:36] this is a, that is a big area. [56:36] Uh, we [56:39] ve also been very strong [56:40] on supporting health, uh, [56:42] services. So, what they, what, [56:44] are you thinking that would [56:46] fall under household stability, [56:48] uh, should that be called [56:50] community stability or, uh, [56:51] would that go under the commu [56:52] the Service and Access [56:53] navigation. I think that [56:53] s [56:55] interesting that we, you know, [56:56] include 1 sort of social [56:58] determinant of health name and [56:59] not the others too, which I [56:59] understand you [57:00] re trying to [57:01] streamline, but I just want to [57:02] be sensitive to that cause [57:04] sometimes people, if they don [57:04] t [57:05] see themselves and where they [57:06] squarely fit, it [57:07] s a challenge. [57:09] Appreciate that question. Thank [57:10] you. I have just flipped over [57:12] to one of the previous slides [57:15] to, uh, I think hopefully [57:17] illustrate where food services [57:19] or health services might fit [57:20] and where those would, um, it [57:22] would be possible to evaluate [57:23] them in more than one way. So [57:25] to your point about household [57:27] stability, um, we have, for [57:29] instance, one of the preferred [57:31] strategies could be basic needs [57:33] access. So looking at food or [57:36] health care or even utilities, [57:37] um, under household stability. [57:39] And some of our grantees that [57:41] provide food, For for instance, [57:43] where they look at, um, and [57:44] measure the number of [57:44] households that they [57:46] re serving, [57:46] they [57:47] re looking at particular [57:49] zip codes, um, targeting [57:51] disparity zones, so they [57:52] re [57:53] looking at really more of the [57:55] basic needs access as an [57:58] example, um, whereas some of [58:00] our healthcare grantees have [58:03] really focused more on case [58:04] management and helping, uh, the [58:06] clients as they might get [58:06] access to one kind of [58:10] healthcare. To connect with a [58:12] case manager who helps them to [58:15] navigate, uh, kind of a more [58:16] holistic approach to healthcare, [58:18] um, both of those, I think, can [58:20] have, um, you know, a lot of [58:23] connection to our human [58:24] services needs assessments to [58:26] the, um, as you mentioned, the [58:28] rising need that we see in the [58:32] community, and, um, our hope is [58:34] that the valuation criteria and [58:35] the application would allow [58:36] organizations to really tell us [58:37] how are they measuring. Success. [58:40] So are they measuring it [58:41] because they [58:41] re looking at [58:43] household stability and they [58:43] re [58:45] really measuring each [58:46] individual customer, how that [58:48] household is, you know, [58:49] benefiting from getting access [58:51] to food, or maybe they [58:51] re [58:53] measuring more, um, the effect [58:55] of like a healthcare fair and [58:55] how they [58:57] re helping connect [58:59] clients to more services, um, [58:59] as they [58:59] re continuing to engage [59:01] with the same client, and I, I [59:03] hope that maybe that example [59:04] would illustrate where we, we [59:06] see them still fitting into [59:07] this framework. Yeah, because I [59:10] did hear Shorthand from [59:11] household stability to housing [59:13] stability, and I could see that [59:14] happening, but if you look [59:15] under here, cause I, as I was [59:17] reading it, I thought [59:18] healthcare was included in that, [59:19] but then I heard housing [59:20] stability. So I [59:20] m wondering, [59:22] should the name be Community [59:23] Stability, or are we really, [59:25] you know, calling out one area [59:26] of the social determinants of [59:26] health that you [59:27] re trying to [59:28] support for stability, so that, [59:30] that did give me pause because [59:33] I did hear that shorthand used [59:35] and maybe it is broader so that [59:37] that food and healthcare does [59:37] stand out a bit more, that [59:37] s [59:39] just One of the, one of the [59:41] areas that I wanted to flag [59:43] because I did, I did hear um [59:45] that focus, um, narrowed down a [59:47] little bit and, and some of the [59:50] commentary. Um, the other thing [59:53] I wanted to ask about is, um, [59:55] are these areas used for [59:57] criteria, so for example, I [59:59] heard from a grantee, uh, that [1:00:02] said, well, if I, do I have to [1:00:04] hit x number of these focus [1:00:05] areas to be able to make my [1:00:06] application stronger. I don [1:00:06] t [1:00:06] think that [1:00:07] s what [1:00:07] s intended, [1:00:07] you [1:00:08] re allowing people to pick [1:00:11] one. They MAY have an overlap, [1:00:11] but that [1:00:13] s not like going to, [1:00:14] um, be a challenge for them, [1:00:16] for example, if the Science [1:00:18] Center, uh, is really focusing [1:00:19] on community enrichment and [1:00:19] belonging. They [1:00:21] re not going to [1:00:23] be dinged necessarily because [1:00:23] they [1:00:25] re not doing, um, economic [1:00:26] mobility, for example, which [1:00:27] they, it might, but I just, I [1:00:29] just wanted to to get that [1:00:30] clarity for nonprofits who MAY [1:00:33] be watching. Yes, that [1:00:33] s [1:00:35] correct, in the evaluation [1:00:39] criteria, it would not Give [1:00:40] more points for achieving more [1:00:42] impact focus areas, it would [1:00:43] measure how well it aligns with [1:00:46] one or more. Ok, thank you. And [1:00:47] what is your thought on the [1:00:49] naming, um, for household [1:00:51] stability, I, I think what you [1:00:54] mean is the whole family, food [1:00:56] secure, housing secure, should [1:00:58] that be community stability? Or [1:01:00] do you really mean to say [1:01:01] housing stability, cause I [1:01:01] think there [1:01:03] s, there [1:01:03] s housing [1:01:04] stability in community [1:01:05] stability, but I just wanna [1:01:06] make sure that we [1:01:07] re not [1:01:08] inadvertently turning people [1:01:08] away from that category cause [1:01:09] they don [1:01:09] t see themselves [1:01:16] fitting in that. I mean, it [1:01:16] s [1:01:17] really up to the body if you [1:01:19] guys wanna change it, that [1:01:19] s [1:01:20] the recommendation that we came [1:01:21] up with. We think it [1:01:22] s holistic [1:01:22] enough from here, but it [1:01:22] s up [1:01:24] to the body if you guys want us [1:01:26] to change the, the focus areas, [1:01:26] that [1:01:26] s, that [1:01:27] s certainly your [1:01:29] pride of, thank you. Thank you. [1:01:31] Yeah, I, I did hear it narrowed [1:01:32] down, so I just, I, I think [1:01:34] either we have to be very clear [1:01:35] in our description or make it [1:01:38] more about comm cause I do want [1:01:39] the the food support that we [1:01:40] ve [1:01:42] been providing is huge, uh, as [1:01:43] well as the healthcare in [1:01:44] addition to the housing, so, um, [1:01:47] I Do like economic mobility, I [1:01:49] like, I like the categories. I [1:01:49] just, that [1:01:50] s the only one that [1:01:53] was, um Maybe I didn [1:01:53] t see as [1:01:55] inclusive as some of the, the [1:01:56] stability and safety areas we [1:02:00] previously funded. Um, in terms [1:02:01] of prioritizing one of the [1:02:03] impact focus areas. Uh, so, One [1:02:05] of the things that has come to [1:02:06] that I was thinking about is in [1:02:10] the past, we did separate out [1:02:11] caregiver from non caregiver [1:02:13] grants, I do think that we [1:02:13] ve [1:02:15] seen social service needs grow [1:02:17] and we have a, uh, you know, we [1:02:19] have increased funding to [1:02:20] nonprofits to try to be [1:02:22] responsive to the needs of our [1:02:25] community and the caregiver [1:02:26] without trying to, um, say we [1:02:26] don [1:02:27] t support arts and culture, [1:02:28] you know, so I think we [1:02:29] ve, [1:02:29] we [1:02:30] ve been balancing and say [1:02:30] we [1:02:31] re going to continue to [1:02:32] support these important [1:02:34] programmatic areas that are you [1:02:35] know, are vital for our [1:02:38] community, uh, and, and to [1:02:40] thrive, we have sometimes [1:02:42] expanded pots and the caregiver [1:02:43] area because of social safety [1:02:45] needs that we have seen have [1:02:47] needed to be increased. So, um, [1:02:47] that [1:02:49] s the one that gives me [1:02:51] pause because we, we have [1:02:52] responded to issues that are [1:02:54] happening in our society, and I [1:02:54] wouldn [1:02:55] t want to hurt one or [1:02:58] the other, but at times we have [1:02:59] said, my gosh, there [1:02:59] s [1:03:01] something going on here in the [1:03:02] universe to help our community, [1:03:06] you know. We, we have at times [1:03:07] put some more funding in [1:03:09] caregiver, so I, I, I do, I do [1:03:11] like the way we had it [1:03:12] separated in a way so that we [1:03:14] had some pots, uh, to be able [1:03:17] to work with, uh, without [1:03:18] hurting the ongoing needs we [1:03:20] need for programs in arts and [1:03:22] culture. So I [1:03:23] m not necessarily, [1:03:24] uh, to the comments of my [1:03:25] colleagues saying that we [1:03:27] should, um, go in this [1:03:28] direction because I wouldn [1:03:29] t [1:03:29] want those ongoing programs [1:03:32] that we do need to support to [1:03:32] get impacted, but we MAY want [1:03:35] to say uh, as we increase [1:03:35] funding, we [1:03:37] re gonna put some [1:03:39] additional caregiver, so I, [1:03:39] that [1:03:39] s, it [1:03:40] s not saying that [1:03:41] we [1:03:41] re prioritizing, but we, I [1:03:44] think we have a prerogative to [1:03:45] say caregiver MAY need [1:03:46] additional support at times [1:03:46] given what [1:03:47] s going on in [1:03:50] society. Um, and I really [1:03:51] appreciate the streamlined [1:03:51] renewal pathway that you [1:03:51] ve [1:03:53] been talking about for the [1:03:54] high-performing programs. Some [1:03:56] of those high-performance [1:03:57] programs are really, um, [1:03:59] hitting core areas, uh, and, [1:04:00] you know, as you said, it takes [1:04:02] more than 1 year to see the [1:04:04] results, uh, so I think that [1:04:06] would really help, uh, with the [1:04:07] burden of the application [1:04:09] process, but still having the [1:04:10] accountability and still having [1:04:12] site staff go in and do the [1:04:14] site visits to make sure that [1:04:14] we [1:04:17] re, um, having high outcome [1:04:20] programs um. I had a couple [1:04:22] other, uh, questions, so we [1:04:24] have youth and Family Services. [1:04:24] One thing I [1:04:24] m, I [1:04:26] m hoping that [1:04:27] we can convey just because [1:04:28] there is a special need and I [1:04:28] know we [1:04:29] re gonna have a work [1:04:31] session on this in the future [1:04:34] is, um, services for at-risk [1:04:35] youth, we haven [1:04:36] t seen as many [1:04:37] grants coming forward to [1:04:40] support risk who are at, uh, [1:04:41] who are underrepresented or at [1:04:42] risk or experiencing [1:04:44] disparities in an area, so I [1:04:44] m [1:04:45] hopeful that as you look at the [1:04:46] program descriptions, we can [1:04:48] specifically call that out. So [1:04:49] that we can make sure that [1:04:51] people are seeing this is an [1:04:52] area that we are trying to, to [1:04:56] elevate. As they already a plan [1:04:57] to do that, or is that [1:04:58] something you need direction [1:05:02] from us on? I think, I think I [1:05:03] hear what you [1:05:03] re saying, and I [1:05:05] think of all the categories, [1:05:05] that [1:05:05] s absolutely where we [1:05:07] would put it, Nick, if you [1:05:08] disagree, let me know, but [1:05:10] Mayor, I think you, um, [1:05:12] foreshadowed something, we [1:05:12] re [1:05:14] gonna start working on doing an [1:05:14] assessment of at-risk youth [1:05:16] programs in the region and just [1:05:18] see where those gaps are. And [1:05:19] once you identify those gaps, [1:05:20] then, then in future grant [1:05:21] cycles, that [1:05:21] s absolutely an [1:05:23] area that we could highlight [1:05:24] more, but as of right now, I [1:05:25] think where you [1:05:25] ve identified [1:05:27] it is where we went to. Thank [1:05:29] you, Nick, do you have anything [1:05:31] to add? No, thank you. Thank [1:05:31] you, ma [1:05:33] am. Thank you. So I [1:05:35] believe looking at the brief [1:05:37] book that arts and culture [1:05:38] would go under community [1:05:38] enrichment belonging, is that [1:05:43] right? Yeah, I think [1:05:45] importantly, this allows the [1:05:49] organization to make that, um, [1:05:50] connection to where they see [1:05:52] the impact of their program, we [1:05:55] do anticipate many of our arts [1:05:57] and cultural programs would see [1:05:58] themselves in community [1:05:59] enrichment and belonging, um, [1:06:01] so I, I will note, uh, you know, [1:06:03] for example, on this chart, um, [1:06:05] we think that, um, given what [1:06:08] we have seen many of those [1:06:09] programs measure and where [1:06:09] we [1:06:10] ve seen needs assessments [1:06:13] identified If I need, you know, [1:06:15] having arts and cultural [1:06:16] programs that increase [1:06:18] belonging that reduce social [1:06:20] isolation, um, that improve [1:06:22] access for Rockville residents, [1:06:24] those are likely to align with [1:06:24] community richment and [1:06:26] belonging, but I do want to [1:06:28] note that some of our arts and [1:06:30] culture grantees, um, for [1:06:32] instance, they are really [1:06:34] thoughtful about tying resource [1:06:36] fairs into their, um, events or [1:06:38] programs, so they MAY also [1:06:39] highlight that they have an [1:06:40] impact on service access and [1:06:42] navigation Crucially, it [1:06:43] ll be [1:06:44] up to them to say whether or [1:06:44] not that [1:06:45] s something they [1:06:46] re [1:06:47] gonna measure as an outcome for [1:06:50] their program, but yes, we do [1:06:51] anticipate that arts and [1:06:53] culture programs should see [1:06:54] themselves at minimum in the [1:06:55] community enrichment and [1:06:57] belonging category. Thank you [1:06:59] for that background. Uh, you [1:07:00] reminded me another, another [1:07:01] question about the categories [1:07:03] that we have. So as an [1:07:04] applicant, and I [1:07:05] ve known this, [1:07:05] I know that I [1:07:06] ve worked on a [1:07:07] couple of federal programs, [1:07:08] people are trying to say, where [1:07:10] am I most likely to have [1:07:11] success. You [1:07:12] re not dividing [1:07:13] the funding by these categories, [1:07:14] correct? So they [1:07:15] re like, if [1:07:15] there [1:07:16] s a lot of applications [1:07:17] in this area, I [1:07:17] m gonna try to [1:07:19] make my, my application in the [1:07:20] other area, that [1:07:20] s not the [1:07:22] focus, is that correct? You are [1:07:23] correct, that is not the focus. [1:07:25] Ok, so I want to make sure that [1:07:25] nonprofit, because I have [1:07:27] actually heard that question. [1:07:29] And, um, and as people were [1:07:31] looking at our, uh, brief [1:07:33] material. So thank you for [1:07:34] clarifying that. In terms of [1:07:35] arts and culture, I, I would [1:07:38] say arts, history and culture, [1:07:40] uh, I, I do, um, have some [1:07:42] feedback that in terms of the [1:07:45] application process on that one. [1:07:47] So some of our arts and culture [1:07:48] events, arts, history and [1:07:49] cultural events. I [1:07:50] m thinking [1:07:51] about, for instance, the [1:07:53] restscoes, um, I [1:07:53] m thinking [1:07:55] about, uh, Rockville Sister [1:07:55] City. Part of the goal of some [1:07:58] of the Those programs is to be [1:08:00] a draw for our Rockville [1:08:02] residents, but also they bring [1:08:05] in people, uh, from the outside [1:08:07] into Rockville and supports our [1:08:10] tourism, our, um, you know, Our [1:08:11] community, uh, for instance, [1:08:14] the Taiwan bubble tea Festival [1:08:16] brings in 12,000 people, uh, [1:08:17] into our town center, which is, [1:08:22] is, which is fantastic, um, but [1:08:24] the application process itself [1:08:25] really focuses on how many, [1:08:26] because because it [1:08:28] s focused in [1:08:30] the caregiver lens on how many [1:08:31] Rockville residents do you [1:08:33] serve versus how many are you [1:08:33] bringing into our community to [1:08:35] support other arts and culture [1:08:37] and tourism needs. So I was [1:08:38] just curious about if you [1:08:38] re [1:08:40] thinking also about The [1:08:41] application and how you collect [1:08:43] data because I do want to know, [1:08:45] and I think my colleagues would [1:08:46] be interested in how many [1:08:48] Rockville residents you are [1:08:51] serving for sure, but also that [1:08:52] bigger number is important for [1:08:53] some of those events that are [1:08:55] designed to be draws, the f. [1:08:56] Scott Fitzgerald Literary [1:08:56] Festival is another one of [1:09:00] those. Yeah, I really [1:09:01] appreciate this question. It [1:09:02] s [1:09:04] one of the things that Sarah [1:09:05] and I have done a lot of [1:09:07] thinking about in terms of how [1:09:09] to really measure the community [1:09:11] enrichment impact of those [1:09:14] programs, uh, so our hope is in [1:09:16] some of the application [1:09:17] materials we [1:09:18] ve provided some [1:09:20] examples of logic models that [1:09:22] show the impact of these kinds [1:09:24] of festivals, these kinds of [1:09:27] events, and, um, our hope would [1:09:27] be that organizations that are [1:09:30] seeking funding. Where they MAY [1:09:32] already be telling us in the [1:09:33] application that they [1:09:33] re [1:09:35] reaching this many people at [1:09:37] the festival that they would [1:09:38] also identify an outcome, for [1:09:41] instance, as one of their major [1:09:43] impacts might be tourism or it [1:09:45] might be connecting with [1:09:47] businesses in the vicinity of [1:09:49] the event, um, or it might be [1:09:51] welcoming organizations to come [1:09:52] to that festival, and those are [1:09:54] things importantly that can be [1:09:55] in the application, and they [1:09:57] can measure those, they can [1:10:00] submit that as a, as Sign of [1:10:03] program success that can be [1:10:04] evaluated by the community [1:10:06] panels. So, um, our hope is [1:10:09] that there will be more [1:10:11] opportunities for them to [1:10:13] identify what the impact is of [1:10:14] those kind of programs and to [1:10:15] include in the application. I [1:10:17] saw Sarah is going to chime in, [1:10:19] the only thing I wanted to say [1:10:21] too is that our current [1:10:23] application and our reporting, [1:10:25] um, has a space for nonpro [1:10:27] profits that receive grants to [1:10:27] tell us how many people overall. [1:10:31] Reaching as well so it is true [1:10:33] that we, we ask them to tell us [1:10:33] how many Rockville residents [1:10:34] they [1:10:35] re reaching, but it [1:10:35] s [1:10:36] another metric that they [1:10:37] provide of how many people [1:10:38] they [1:10:39] re reaching overall. Sarah, [1:10:43] please, yeah. Thank you, Nick. [1:10:45] Yeah, I just wanted to [1:10:46] reiterate an echo what Nick was [1:10:48] saying, but I think throughout [1:10:50] all of the work that Nick and I [1:10:54] were like thinking about In [1:10:57] this grant restructuring, um, [1:10:57] something that we [1:10:58] ve really [1:11:00] pride ourselves in with working [1:11:01] with all the nonprofits that [1:11:03] are incoming, especially with [1:11:05] the matrix piece is the [1:11:07] importance of just like data [1:11:09] telling stories, not just for [1:11:11] the city of Rockville, but to [1:11:14] in an effort to help these [1:11:17] organizations, um, seek funding [1:11:19] outside of the city as well, um, [1:11:21] and how important it is for an [1:11:24] organization to Have metrics [1:11:26] for their organization, period, [1:11:28] to have logic models for their [1:11:30] programs and how that can [1:11:36] really be a, um trajectory into [1:11:38] a whole other opportunity of [1:11:39] funding opportunities. So I [1:11:43] just wanted to echo that piece. [1:11:47] Thank you, and the total number [1:11:48] of participants would be both [1:11:49] in the application, or [1:11:50] anticipated, both in the [1:11:52] application and both in and and [1:11:54] reporting, correct? That [1:11:54] s [1:11:56] correct. Excellent. Thank you [1:11:58] for clarifying that. Um, I, the [1:12:00] other thing I was looking at [1:12:02] our current grants on about, I [1:12:03] was looking at some of the [1:12:05] services we were funding and [1:12:06] disability service has been a [1:12:08] part of that. Uh, I know they [1:12:11] would be able to, um Pick the [1:12:13] category, I just wanted to note [1:12:14] that, um, as we [1:12:16] re looking at [1:12:18] at-risk youth and immigrant [1:12:19] communities that somewhere on [1:12:20] our page, they can see that [1:12:20] we [1:12:22] re continuing to support [1:12:23] disability services as one of [1:12:25] the, you know, sub areas of [1:12:27] support. I know that Rockville [1:12:28] has continued to grow to be [1:12:30] seen as a place where people [1:12:32] with differing abilities can [1:12:33] grow and thrive here, and I, I [1:12:34] just wanted to, didn [1:12:34] t want to [1:12:35] signal that we [1:12:35] re backing away [1:12:36] from that, we [1:12:37] re actually [1:12:38] leaning in and doing more, and [1:12:39] I also want to thank you for [1:12:41] raising the importance of [1:12:42] helping people understand that [1:12:44] we do have a Jedi strategic [1:12:45] plan and we [1:12:48] re asking people to [1:12:49] help align services with that [1:12:52] just to meet those needs. Um, I [1:12:55] had a couple other comments, [1:12:57] now shifting to the, uh Uh, [1:12:59] from, from, from people I [1:12:59] ve [1:13:02] gotten feedback from the fire [1:13:03] safety, the public safety work [1:13:03] that we [1:13:04] ve been doing with the [1:13:06] fire department, do you see [1:13:07] that that would fit in one of [1:13:09] these categories, would that be [1:13:10] er it, I just wanna make sure [1:13:11] that we [1:13:11] re not losing anybody [1:13:13] in, in what we [1:13:14] ve put together [1:13:16] here. Yeah, thank you for that [1:13:18] question. I want to answer [1:13:21] about that question and also, [1:13:22] um, echo is something that, um, [1:13:24] was said earlier. So one is [1:13:25] that even if we do adopt these [1:13:29] 5 proposed impact Focus areas [1:13:30] that evaluation criteria will [1:13:33] continue to measure more than [1:13:35] just alignment with these 5. So [1:13:37] part of the hope with these [1:13:39] impactfo focus areas is that it [1:13:41] will help those applications to [1:13:43] be most competitive, but it [1:13:44] would not exclude any [1:13:46] application that did not align [1:13:48] as long as the application is [1:13:50] eligible to be reviewed, there [1:13:52] will be other criteria that we [1:13:53] um have included in our [1:13:55] evaluation, and we do believe [1:13:58] that it will be possible for [1:14:01] Other applications to, um, to [1:14:04] qualify for funding and for the [1:14:06] community panel to identify, um, [1:14:07] grants that might not align [1:14:08] with one of these 5. So we [1:14:09] wanted to make sure there was [1:14:10] still room in the evaluation [1:14:12] for it to be flexible enough to [1:14:15] go beyond these 5, specifically [1:14:17] to the question of public [1:14:20] safety, of fire safety, we [1:14:21] definitely see service access [1:14:24] as being one of the ways that [1:14:25] they could identify, um, you [1:14:26] know, and demonstrate a, a need [1:14:29] there. Um, also, um, many of [1:14:30] our public safety applicants, I [1:14:33] think, do look at, um, family [1:14:35] success and household stability, [1:14:36] but we think service access [1:14:37] would still encompass those [1:14:40] most clearly. Ok. And how would [1:14:41] the, how would the grant [1:14:43] committee, these are one of the [1:14:44] ones that I think the mayor and [1:14:45] council have said we [1:14:45] re trying [1:14:49] to stay within this range, uh, [1:14:50] so that we don [1:14:50] t necessarily [1:14:53] drop. Support to some, so I, [1:14:55] there are some that are, you [1:14:56] know, standard grants, and they [1:14:57] there are, there are other ones [1:15:00] that are sort of ongoing. [1:15:01] Programmatic areas that we [1:15:01] re [1:15:02] trying to support as a city, [1:15:04] for example, we give the fire [1:15:06] department a donation for water. [1:15:06] We [1:15:07] re not going to backtrack on [1:15:09] that, but the committee MAY not [1:15:11] know that, so how, how is that [1:15:12] being communicated to the [1:15:19] review committee? I can answer [1:15:24] that, yeah, so, um, we have, uh, [1:15:26] in the years past, our grantees [1:15:30] have asked for, um, either [1:15:31] reimbursements of city services, [1:15:32] or sometimes there [1:15:33] s an intra [1:15:35] fund transfer of a city service, [1:15:37] um, these have been included in [1:15:39] applications, we actually [1:15:41] proposed earlier this year to [1:15:42] cmo and finance and made sure [1:15:45] that it would be ok for us to, [1:15:46] uh, move forward in this way, [1:15:49] um, we want to take those [1:15:51] requests for city service [1:15:52] funding and have actually a [1:15:53] specific community panel that [1:15:55] understands a little bit more, [1:15:58] um, what those needs are, what [1:16:00] those processes are to evaluate [1:16:02] those, so we would actually [1:16:03] pull those specific requests [1:16:05] out of this evaluation [1:16:06] framework and look at them more [1:16:08] from sort of a, are they [1:16:09] eligible or not criteria, so [1:16:11] they would still have to apply [1:16:12] through the application process [1:16:13] and we would still have [1:16:16] community, uh, a panel to [1:16:16] review those applications, but [1:16:19] to your point, um. Because they [1:16:22] are a bit of outliers and we do [1:16:23] need to have a different kind [1:16:25] of criteria to evaluate them. [1:16:25] Um, we [1:16:26] ve specifically pulled [1:16:28] them out and are planning to [1:16:31] have a more tailored panel [1:16:31] evaluate those requests. [1:16:33] Excellent, thank you. So I know [1:16:34] we do water and we [1:16:35] ve also [1:16:36] helped support, um, new safety [1:16:37] trucks because it is a [1:16:38] volunteer department. They [1:16:39] ve [1:16:40] been relying on donations and [1:16:42] collaborations with the city on [1:16:43] that, so I appreciate that [1:16:43] you [1:16:45] re looking at that somewhat [1:16:48] differently. Um, ok, and then [1:16:50] the other thing related to the, [1:16:54] um The, I think the returning [1:16:55] grants that you, the high [1:16:57] impact grants would, would [1:16:59] cover some of the feedback that [1:16:59] I [1:17:00] ve shared via the city [1:17:02] manager on the application [1:17:03] process, uh, because that would [1:17:05] streamline it and it would help [1:17:08] them on, on, um Being able to [1:17:10] to move forward, but also [1:17:11] making sure there [1:17:11] s [1:17:13] accountability on the reporting [1:17:16] side, um, I was hearing that [1:17:16] there [1:17:18] s quarterly reports plus [1:17:19] 6-month reports, and those are [1:17:20] just some of the feedback we [1:17:20] re [1:17:22] getting, I know that I, I trust [1:17:24] that the team is going to make [1:17:25] sure that city dolls are being [1:17:27] used wisely, but is there any [1:17:28] other feedback like that or [1:17:30] things that you might be [1:17:31] streamlining, um, to, to [1:17:32] address some of the feedback [1:17:32] we [1:17:37] ve received. Yeah, we do [1:17:39] definitely cont plan to [1:17:40] continue to listen to [1:17:42] organizations as they give us [1:17:43] suggestions and feedback on how [1:17:45] we can streamline, importantly, [1:17:45] we [1:17:47] re also looking at the [1:17:47] city [1:17:49] s other processes we [1:17:50] collaborate with finance and [1:17:52] procurement on payments, so [1:17:54] some of the processes are from [1:17:55] outside of our department that [1:17:58] we align with, um, in In [1:17:59] particular with reporting, um, [1:18:01] that one might be worth us [1:18:02] following up with any [1:18:03] organization that you [1:18:03] ve heard [1:18:04] that from, um, we would wanna [1:18:08] just Clarify for them that the [1:18:10] 6-month report is the quarter 2 [1:18:11] report, so there [1:18:11] s, there [1:18:13] s 4, [1:18:15] just 4 quarterly reports that [1:18:17] they participate in, um, but I [1:18:18] hope that that answers the [1:18:19] question. It does. Thank you. [1:18:21] And then it notes that the, uh, [1:18:24] another piece of feedback, the [1:18:25] grant agreements require, um, [1:18:28] that they submit the final [1:18:29] quarter report on JUNE 30th, [1:18:30] but they have to expand the [1:18:31] grant through JUNE 30th, so [1:18:33] they feel like the deadline is [1:18:35] challenging since On the end of [1:18:37] a quarter. And they don [1:18:38] t have [1:18:39] all the expenses and receipts [1:18:40] talent yet. I [1:18:40] m so, I [1:18:40] m [1:18:41] assuming that there [1:18:41] s a way [1:18:42] that you [1:18:42] ve addressed this with [1:18:44] other grantees, but just wanted [1:18:51] to share that as well. Sorry, [1:18:52] um, was there a question there [1:18:53] that you, right, so if we [1:18:53] re [1:18:54] telling them they have to [1:18:56] submit the final quarter report [1:18:59] on JUNE 30th, which is the end [1:19:00] of that cycle and they don [1:19:00] t [1:19:02] have receipts yet, is there a [1:19:04] way that they can comply, uh, [1:19:05] they feel like that that [1:19:06] deadline can be challenging. I, [1:19:06] I don [1:19:07] t know if we [1:19:07] re making [1:19:09] any changes to that process as [1:19:09] you [1:19:11] re streamlining. Yeah, [1:19:13] thank you for that question. Uh, [1:19:15] so the end of your financial [1:19:16] deadlines actually come to us [1:19:18] from the this city, um, this [1:19:20] year, for instance, the [1:19:22] deadline to reimburse [1:19:24] organizations is AUGUST 5th, um, [1:19:26] the end of your reports were [1:19:27] actually due JULY 7th. We, we [1:19:29] make sure that we don [1:19:29] t have [1:19:31] the report due at the very end [1:19:34] of the grant period, um, and [1:19:36] then we ask organizations, I [1:19:37] think this year it was probably [1:19:39] early JUNE, Sarah might correct [1:19:40] me, um, to give us a heads up [1:19:43] if they need an extension. So [1:19:44] several of our organizations [1:19:45] did let us know in advance they [1:19:47] would be submitting their [1:19:49] materials JULY 15th, um, but we [1:19:51] are a bit constrained by just [1:19:51] the city [1:19:52] s kind of [1:19:54] reimbursement deadlines, um, [1:19:55] but hopefully that, that [1:19:56] organization that might have, [1:19:58] um, thought that they had to [1:19:59] have everything turned in by [1:20:01] JUNE 30th. Hopefully they, they [1:20:03] worked with us to, um, you know, [1:20:06] have it in by, by JULY 15th. [1:20:06] Excellent, and I think you [1:20:07] re [1:20:08] gonna be doing some education [1:20:09] as you roll all of this out, uh, [1:20:10] because some of these These [1:20:14] groups are of Fairly large and [1:20:15] long-standing organizations, [1:20:17] but they still having some, um, [1:20:18] you know, challenges with [1:20:19] understanding how to, how to, [1:20:20] they want to comply, make sure [1:20:20] they [1:20:22] re doing everything right. [1:20:23] So so, uh, I appreciate that [1:20:23] you [1:20:25] re gonna be having, uh, [1:20:26] sessions and webinars to help [1:20:26] people understand what [1:20:27] s this [1:20:27] new approach and how we [1:20:27] re [1:20:29] going to make this work, uh, [1:20:30] and I, I will also say I won [1:20:30] t [1:20:32] belabor this, but I, I have [1:20:35] heard that the payment process [1:20:36] change in the past few years, [1:20:38] um, which I know did not come [1:20:39] out of dhcd, but I [1:20:39] ve, I [1:20:39] ve [1:20:41] been hearing that some feedback [1:20:43] on that, especially given Some [1:20:46] of the nonprofits who have not [1:20:48] received timely timely funding [1:20:49] related to food insecurity, [1:20:51] health services, and housing, [1:20:53] in particular have been [1:20:55] challenging for them, uh, and I [1:20:55] know you [1:20:55] ve worked with [1:20:56] organizations, so I [1:20:56] ll just say [1:20:57] if you are a nonprofit [1:20:58] listening, please feel free to [1:21:00] reach out to your, uh, you know, [1:21:02] your program manager for help [1:21:07] if needed. Ok. Thank you so [1:21:10] much for this. I think we have, [1:21:10] I [1:21:11] ve answered these questions, [1:21:13] but if, uh, once we [1:21:13] re done [1:21:15] going through the line, if you [1:21:15] have any additional questions [1:21:16] for me in terms of the feedback [1:21:17] I provided, I [1:21:18] d be open to it. [1:21:18] I [1:21:19] m going to now move to [1:21:23] COUNCILMAN Valerie. He council [1:21:29] member shop. I think she MAY [1:21:31] need more time, uh. Are you [1:21:34] ready, Councilor Shaw? Ok, [1:21:37] perfect. Oh, thank you to it [1:21:40] for doing that. Um, and also I [1:21:42] just, uh, wanna echo my [1:21:44] colleagues and, um, thank you [1:21:47] for this presentation. Um, this [1:21:49] is a very thoughtful, uh, [1:21:50] redesign, and I appreciate all [1:21:51] the work that has gone into [1:21:57] this. Um, So I do have a few [1:22:00] questions when, when you shared, [1:22:02] uh, about the community panel [1:22:04] that does the evaluation, um, [1:22:06] and makes the selection. Can [1:22:09] you share more about Uh, who is [1:22:13] that? How many people are these [1:22:14] real community fo folks like, [1:22:15] can you share some more details [1:22:19] on that? Yeah, thank you for [1:22:22] this question. So yes, the [1:22:23] community panel is, um, a [1:22:25] really important part of the [1:22:26] evaluation for both of these [1:22:29] grant programs, the mini grant [1:22:30] program and the Community [1:22:32] Services and Enrichment Grant [1:22:35] Program, we put out a call each [1:22:38] year to, um, both city [1:22:40] employees be commissions and [1:22:42] boards and then to the [1:22:45] community at large, um, asking [1:22:46] for interested people to serve [1:22:49] as panel reviewers. This past [1:22:50] year, I believe, and I can [1:22:52] follow up to make sure that [1:22:54] this number is correct. I [1:22:57] believe we had 28 panel members [1:23:00] that reviewed, um, something [1:23:01] like 51 applications, and as I [1:23:03] mentioned, 48 of the [1:23:04] applications were selected for [1:23:06] funding, um, those community [1:23:10] members. Um, they typically are [1:23:12] a mix of city staff from across [1:23:14] different departments, um, [1:23:15] about half of the 28 from [1:23:18] across, uh, departments, and [1:23:19] then the rest are Rockville [1:23:21] residents, some who serve on [1:23:22] boards and commissions and some [1:23:23] who are just serving as [1:23:26] volunteers from the community, [1:23:28] um, we do ask them to, um, make [1:23:29] sure that we don [1:23:30] t have any [1:23:31] conflicts of interest. They [1:23:31] re [1:23:33] not, for instance, board [1:23:34] members of a nonprofit that [1:23:35] s [1:23:36] asking for funding, uh, we [1:23:39] provided training for them. And [1:23:41] then they lead this process, [1:23:43] they each do an individual [1:23:45] review of every application [1:23:47] they come together in panels to [1:23:49] discuss those reviews and reach [1:23:52] consensus, and then they make [1:23:53] recommendations on which grants [1:23:54] should be funded, and we make [1:23:57] an effort to recruit people who [1:23:58] have lived experience in some [1:24:00] of these services and [1:24:02] backgrounds as well as people [1:24:03] with maybe professional [1:24:05] expertise or um direct [1:24:06] expertise in the services as [1:24:09] well. Can you share a bit more [1:24:13] on how you are insuring, um, [1:24:14] that the residents that are [1:24:16] making the decisions on, on [1:24:18] these grants, um, have the [1:24:20] lived experience. Yeah, we can [1:24:22] share a copy of the interest [1:24:25] form, it actually asks them to [1:24:26] identify and why do they want [1:24:29] to be a volunteer on the panel? [1:24:30] Do they have lived experience [1:24:32] in one or more of the areas, do [1:24:35] they have a background, um, [1:24:36] with professional expertise, um, [1:24:38] so we can certainly share the [1:24:39] interest form that ask those [1:24:40] questions, and then it [1:24:41] s really [1:24:43] just a screening, we let people [1:24:44] as they are interested, we want [1:24:46] them to volunteer, we let them [1:24:47] volunteer, but we just want to [1:24:48] make sure that we [1:24:48] re screening [1:24:50] for, um, like I had those [1:24:52] conflicts of interest to make [1:24:54] sure that, um, the panel [1:24:55] members are participating in [1:24:59] that way. Um, I, I appreciate [1:25:02] that process, um, I think. [1:25:05] There are some barriers to [1:25:07] engagement that, uh, MAY [1:25:10] prevent some folks that have a [1:25:11] lot of lived experience to even [1:25:14] be able to know about this type [1:25:16] of opportunity, especially if [1:25:18] they are self-selecting, um, [1:25:20] and, uh, so I think it [1:25:21] s [1:25:23] important to just think about. [1:25:25] Equity in, in that sense, um, [1:25:30] and. That would be one area [1:25:32] where, um. It [1:25:33] s, I would like [1:25:35] to just learn a lot more. I [1:25:35] won [1:25:35] t, I won [1:25:36] t take up the [1:25:38] meeting to do that, um, but I, [1:25:41] I think, uh, being able to just [1:25:44] make sure that, uh, this [1:25:45] opportunity is, is shared with [1:25:49] a broad, um, diverse amount of [1:25:51] people, um, and it [1:25:52] s usually [1:25:54] our, um, boards and commissions, [1:25:55] the volunteers, they [1:25:57] re very, [1:25:59] very engaged and will usually, [1:26:00] uh, be the first to respond, [1:26:03] and, um, Just making sure that [1:26:07] we can also, um. Uh, make sure [1:26:09] that there is diversity among [1:26:11] the lived experience that is [1:26:13] shared or provide opportunity. [1:26:20] Um, The third question I had, [1:26:23] um, so I see youth and family [1:26:25] success, um, and I also know [1:26:30] that. Um, and I saw senior [1:26:32] services, um, lower down, I [1:26:32] m [1:26:34] one of the continued areas that [1:26:34] we [1:26:37] re focusing on. And I [1:26:38] m, I [1:26:38] m [1:26:40] just wondering if we could look [1:26:43] at adding seniors to the youth [1:26:46] and youth, seniors, and family [1:26:47] success, and why I would say [1:26:49] this is because I know that [1:26:52] seniors are among, uh, one of [1:26:53] the growing like homeless [1:26:56] populations, uh, food [1:26:58] insecurity, um, also, it [1:26:59] s a [1:27:01] growing renter population as [1:27:03] well, um, that, uh, you know, [1:27:03] there [1:27:04] s a lot of growing needs [1:27:07] among seniors. Um, and when we [1:27:08] say family, I [1:27:11] m not sure if Um, [1:27:13] You know, that that would cover, [1:27:15] but, uh, I would say since we [1:27:17] are calling out youth for a lot [1:27:19] of the same reasons, um, I [1:27:22] would also just suggest also, [1:27:23] um, also calling out seniors so [1:27:28] youth, seniors, and family. Um. [1:27:32] And And I know that, uh, that, [1:27:34] you know, that is an area we [1:27:35] have certainly continuing to [1:27:39] work on, but, uh, just [1:27:40] Projecting the needs of seniors, [1:27:40] it [1:27:41] s just, it [1:27:42] s just a really [1:27:45] growing, um, issue that I think [1:27:46] that we should further invest [1:27:47] in or at least call out and [1:27:54] identify here. Uh, my fourth [1:27:57] question, uh, is. Um, I, I know [1:28:00] in the briefing book, we talked [1:28:05] about, um. The Urban Institute. [1:28:06] The framework that the Urban [1:28:08] Institute uses. Can you share [1:28:09] some more details on that in [1:28:12] terms of mobility. And the [1:28:15] approach using that? Yes, so [1:28:18] this is the Urban Institute [1:28:18] s [1:28:18] Economic Mobility, or I [1:28:20] m sorry, [1:28:25] upward mobility framework. Is [1:28:26] that what you [1:28:27] re referring to? [1:28:28] Sure, yeah, I can share a [1:28:30] little bit more about that in [1:28:31] the staff report too, there [1:28:32] s, [1:28:34] um, a little bit more [1:28:36] information about the upward [1:28:37] mobility framework, um, but [1:28:39] this is, as you noted, [1:28:41] something that was developed [1:28:43] through research with the Urban [1:28:45] Institute. It [1:28:45] s an [1:28:46] evidence-based foundation [1:28:46] that [1:28:48] s, um, identifying [1:28:50] strategies that have been shown [1:28:52] to support upward mobility and [1:28:56] racial equality, um, The city [1:28:59] has been participating in a few [1:29:00] different regional efforts that [1:29:04] are aiming to align us with the [1:29:06] upward mobility framework, [1:29:07] including, um, there [1:29:08] s been, um, [1:29:10] work through the, um, I [1:29:11] m sorry, [1:29:11] I [1:29:12] m thinking in acronyms right [1:29:13] now, and I usually try to spell [1:29:16] those out, but cog and gear and [1:29:17] maybe someone could jump in and [1:29:21] provide them the more inclusive, [1:29:22] longer definitions of those two, [1:29:23] but the upward mobility [1:29:27] framework. Is that, um, [1:29:29] evidence-based, uh, framework [1:29:30] that [1:29:31] s trying to identify [1:29:32] specific strategies and [1:29:33] predictors that are showing [1:29:38] upward mobility. Ok. Um, yeah, [1:29:41] I would, I would, uh, maybe at [1:29:43] a later point would just like [1:29:44] to understand how that [1:29:45] s being [1:29:48] applied, um, to the decision [1:29:49] making. Um, I understand [1:29:51] generally what it is and the [1:29:52] concept, but I would just like [1:29:54] to learn how is it actually [1:29:55] being implemented and applied. [1:29:56] What are the results that [1:29:56] you [1:30:00] re getting? How is it, um. [1:30:01] Influencing the decisions that [1:30:02] you [1:30:03] re making, um, just some [1:30:04] more detail on the [1:30:10] implementation. Um, and then. [1:30:13] Uh, I, I, I noticed that, um, [1:30:15] just like, uh, one of my [1:30:16] colleagues had stated that I [1:30:19] noticed that, uh, household [1:30:20] stability was being used and [1:30:22] then housing stability was [1:30:23] being used. Um, and so I [1:30:25] wondered a, a little bit about [1:30:27] the terminology, and I, I saw [1:30:30] that household. Um, I know that [1:30:32] housing stability, the way that [1:30:35] we have defined it, um, in [1:30:37] previous work sessions was one [1:30:39] way, and then I noticed housing, [1:30:41] household stability was used [1:30:45] here, which, um, which includes [1:30:47] utilities and includes, um, [1:30:49] food, um, some of the examples [1:30:51] that were provided, and so I [1:30:53] got the sense that household [1:30:57] stability was, um Like [1:30:59] financial stability for our, [1:31:01] our households, um, and I do, I [1:31:03] do think that community [1:31:06] stability is a great term, uh, [1:31:09] I would, um, seeing here that [1:31:12] we use community enrichment and [1:31:14] Community belonging, um, as [1:31:16] well, so I, I just wonder if [1:31:19] there would be. I, I think [1:31:21] household stability is a very [1:31:23] clear word in terms of [1:31:24] household finances. Um, I would [1:31:26] just wonder if there would be [1:31:27] some confusion between [1:31:29] community stability and [1:31:29] community enrichment and [1:31:30] belonging, and I think, you [1:31:35] know, from Community members [1:31:35] oftentimes seeing community [1:31:37] belonging, connecting to their [1:31:39] housing stability, um, like if [1:31:39] you can [1:31:40] t afford to live here, [1:31:41] if you [1:31:42] re being priced out, um, [1:31:45] in a lot of ways, um, it [1:31:45] s, [1:31:45] it [1:31:46] s making folks feel like [1:31:46] they don [1:31:47] t belong and being [1:31:49] pushed out here in a, in a [1:31:51] broader sense. So I know there [1:31:53] is some confusion around that, [1:31:55] um, but, um, I would, I would [1:31:57] like to, you know, hear more [1:32:00] about that, the terminology [1:32:01] around household stability, but [1:32:03] I did notice it was used [1:32:03] interchangeably with housing [1:32:10] stability. Um, You MAY wanna, [1:32:13] uh, well, could you give more [1:32:13] details on housing stability or. [1:32:16] Why you decided to originally [1:32:19] use that term. Yeah, Nick, Nick, [1:32:20] maybe you could put up the [1:32:22] chart that kind of shows the [1:32:22] modifiers underneath it, and I [1:32:23] think that [1:32:23] ll be the best way [1:32:24] to walk through it if you don [1:32:24] t [1:32:29] mind me suggesting that. Yeah, [1:32:30] uh, definitely. Um, so thank [1:32:32] you for this question, [1:32:35] COUNCILMAN Bashaw. Uh, you are [1:32:36] correct that housing stability [1:32:38] and household stability. We we [1:32:40] are trying to differentiate the [1:32:44] two here, um, for us housing [1:32:47] stability is one of the [1:32:48] strategies that could support [1:32:50] household stability, um, as we [1:32:53] look at this chart though, um, [1:32:55] not just housing policies or [1:32:57] housing services, so not just [1:32:58] Pre-eviction or foreclosure [1:33:00] support or rapid rehousing, but [1:33:02] also financial assistance, for [1:33:04] example, our basic needs access, [1:33:07] so, um, when we look for [1:33:09] example at what the city is [1:33:11] doing around housing programs [1:33:13] and housing services, we have [1:33:15] some goals around housing [1:33:17] stability that are very [1:33:19] specific to, um, affordable [1:33:21] housing, housing access, [1:33:22] housing development, um, and [1:33:24] then when we would think about [1:33:25] the impact focus area and we [1:33:28] think about how Household [1:33:30] stability, um, I believe when [1:33:32] we, um, selected this term, we [1:33:34] were trained to look at what [1:33:36] our nonprofit organizations are [1:33:38] frequently already measuring, [1:33:40] and what are they connecting to [1:33:41] other regional efforts to [1:33:44] measure, and so they often [1:33:45] measure these financial [1:33:46] assistance or basic needs [1:33:48] assistance, they often measure [1:33:50] it in households, and then have [1:33:52] some of their own performance [1:33:53] measures around household [1:33:55] stability, so our hope with [1:33:56] this was to align it with What [1:33:58] some of our current providers [1:34:00] and nonprofit partners are kind [1:34:01] of already measuring and [1:34:03] reporting on across the region, [1:34:03] I [1:34:06] m hoping that that would be [1:34:07] more recognizable to them, um, [1:34:09] and then, as you know, housing [1:34:11] stability itself is kind of a [1:34:13] more specific, um, strategy [1:34:15] that is, um, encompassed in [1:34:17] this. I hope that answers that [1:34:20] question. Yes, that, that is [1:34:22] very helpful. So the household [1:34:25] stability is more of like an [1:34:27] industry term used within the [1:34:30] nonprofit sector. Yeah, and I [1:34:31] wonder if Sarah could comment [1:34:34] on this at all. Um, she works a [1:34:36] lot with our organizations on [1:34:37] identifying those metrics and [1:34:39] as she noted, we [1:34:40] re trying to, [1:34:42] um, help ensure that what we [1:34:43] measure in our grants at the [1:34:45] city wherever possible, it [1:34:45] s [1:34:47] connecting to things across the [1:34:49] region, um, so for instance, [1:34:51] with food, I know that like the [1:34:53] Montgomery County Office of [1:34:55] Food Resilience and the [1:34:56] Montgomery County Food Systems, [1:34:57] um, that [1:34:58] s kind of a coalition [1:35:00] of food providers. Um, they [1:35:00] re [1:35:02] measuring a lot in terms of [1:35:04] household served, household [1:35:05] stability, household access. [1:35:07] Sarah, did you want to speak to [1:35:13] that any further? Um, no, not [1:35:14] really. I think like you [1:35:16] covered it, but, um, yeah, I [1:35:19] think Household stability is [1:35:25] Like. Just a word like we use [1:35:25] that I think encompasses a lot [1:35:27] of These things we [1:35:28] ve talked [1:35:33] about, but, uh I think there is [1:35:34] flexibility to maybe be a [1:35:35] little bit more encompassing. I [1:35:35] don [1:35:37] t know. Whereas we [1:35:37] re [1:35:39] hearing, perhaps making sure we, [1:35:41] we definitely define these in [1:35:43] our application and help [1:35:45] materials, um, I think that has [1:35:46] actually really helpful in this [1:35:51] new design to think about. Um, [1:35:52] Our partners and the [1:35:53] terminology that they [1:35:54] re using [1:35:55] and we [1:35:56] re reflecting that in [1:35:59] our process. I think that helps [1:36:01] to streamline it, um, so I, I [1:36:02] m, [1:36:02] I [1:36:04] m really happy that you, uh. [1:36:06] Are taking some of the terms [1:36:08] that the our partners are using, [1:36:09] um, and it [1:36:13] s reflected here. Um, [1:36:15] the The last point that I would [1:36:16] say is just going back to [1:36:22] evaluation. Um. It would be [1:36:26] helpful. Um, for us to get just [1:36:28] some of the broader data, like, [1:36:29] for example, economic stability [1:36:33] or Household stability, and I [1:36:35] know pre-eviction services was [1:36:37] one of the items, but also for [1:36:39] us to think about this in terms [1:36:42] of, um, just the general data [1:36:43] in in Brockville, like, for [1:36:47] example, I know that evictions [1:36:48] have increased for Rockville, [1:36:50] or, um, and to get some of the [1:36:52] background informa just like [1:36:54] the general data for that er [1:36:56] for that particular topic area, [1:36:58] i think is helpful for us to [1:37:02] make, um. Decisions around, uh, [1:37:04] the nonpro profits that were [1:37:06] giving grants to, and, um, just [1:37:07] to evaluate the work and the [1:37:09] services in general. And I [1:37:09] m [1:37:10] not saying nonprofits should. [1:37:13] Be able to fix all of our [1:37:15] problems because, um, that, [1:37:15] that won [1:37:16] t happen, but just to [1:37:18] have some of that broader [1:37:20] context, um, uh, just for us to [1:37:24] make decisions. But this is [1:37:28] fantastic, and thank you. Thank [1:37:31] you. Uh, Councilor Burke, I, I, [1:37:32] uh, just wanted to flag, I know [1:37:34] MR. Mihali asked us to speak to [1:37:36] these 3 areas. I assume that [1:37:38] you are. Based on your feedback, [1:37:41] good with 1, but you want [1:37:44] people to look at the titles, [1:37:45] um, thank, thank you, MADAM [1:37:46] Mayor, and if it [1:37:47] s ok, I would, [1:37:49] I would like to also hear from [1:37:50] my colleagues because I know [1:37:51] that they MAY have some [1:37:53] questions and I can be a a bit [1:37:54] more informed if it [1:37:54] s ok to [1:37:58] circle back. Sure, yes, I think [1:37:58] he [1:38:00] s also looking for answers, [1:38:02] yes or no to 2 or 3, just, uh, [1:38:06] when we circle back. Thank you. [1:38:14] Ok, COUNCILMAN Valerie. Um Uh, [1:38:17] a massive thank you to, um, MS. [1:38:20] Shushka MISS Maisel, um I know [1:38:23] as a, somebody working in the [1:38:24] nonprofit sector and has only [1:38:26] ever worked in the nonprofit [1:38:28] sector, um, exactly how [1:38:31] challenging it is. Um, and also [1:38:33] as liaison to the Human [1:38:37] Services Advisory. Commission. [1:38:39] I hear firsthand from so many [1:38:42] of our, uh, community, uh, [1:38:43] service providers. I hear about [1:38:44] their challenges and their [1:38:46] struggles, and I really [1:38:47] appreciate all the work that [1:38:50] the two of you, um do on a [1:38:52] daily basis, not only, um, on [1:38:52] what you [1:38:53] re looking at, what [1:38:53] What we [1:38:55] re looking at here, but, [1:39:00] um As a whole, I think that um [1:39:01] our nonprofits and, uh, [1:39:02] yourselves are some of our [1:39:05] unsung, uh, heroes. So I wanna [1:39:07] say thank you sincerely, um [1:39:10] Yeah, I have a whole lot. To, [1:39:14] to ask, to say, to comments, I [1:39:16] will hopefully get to these 3, [1:39:17] but if not, I [1:39:18] m sure MADAM [1:39:19] Mayor will do like another, [1:39:21] like, hey, if you haven [1:39:21] t [1:39:22] answered the 3, you know, go [1:39:27] around the horn. Um, I wanna [1:39:30] first note that I think that [1:39:31] this is a significant enough [1:39:33] topic that I don [1:39:33] t want to [1:39:37] preclude Mm Forward progress, [1:39:39] but I think that it does [1:39:41] deserve a second work session. [1:39:41] We don [1:39:43] t have all of our [1:39:46] colleagues here. And one of our [1:39:49] colleagues, um, joined a little [1:39:50] bit into the discussion. I [1:39:52] think that, um, whether we have [1:39:56] it as part of our, uh, [1:39:57] strategic planning session, um, [1:39:58] as your city manager, I think [1:39:59] that this is significant enough. [1:40:03] That we should consider, uh, uh, [1:40:07] a second work session. Um, I do [1:40:10] wanna just to, uh, help the [1:40:10] member Shaw [1:40:11] s point, yes, [1:40:14] household is a term that the [1:40:16] nonprofit sector uses an [1:40:17] all-encompassing term when [1:40:17] you [1:40:19] re looking at, um, [1:40:22] different levels of, of service, [1:40:22] um, you haven [1:40:23] t community needs, [1:40:24] but you have household needs as [1:40:25] well. So it [1:40:28] s a very, uh, [1:40:29] easily identifiable by the [1:40:31] nonprofit or ngo, [1:40:33] non-governmental organization. [1:40:36] Immunity. Well, on that point, [1:40:40] I, I throw out a, an idea. And [1:40:42] this also goes to something [1:40:45] that, um, that actually, uh, [1:40:47] you said MISS Shushka when you [1:40:49] very kindly answered the [1:40:51] question again, um, maybe we [1:40:53] call it community resiliency. [1:40:55] Because making sure that people [1:40:57] have, you know, safe and stable [1:41:00] housing. Access to health [1:41:02] services, access to food, these [1:41:06] are things that are kind of [1:41:08] essential to resiliency, um, [1:41:10] and resiliency is, is also part [1:41:11] of stability, so I [1:41:11] m just gonna [1:41:13] throw that out there as a As an [1:41:17] idea. Um, you can, you can run [1:41:18] with it, or you can ignore me. [1:41:19] Either way, I [1:41:19] m all, I [1:41:20] m all [1:41:23] good, but I, I do like the idea [1:41:24] of resiliency and making sure [1:41:26] that our, all of our [1:41:29] communities can. Mhm. And not [1:41:30] only survive but can thrive. As [1:41:33] well. Um. I [1:41:34] m gonna, I [1:41:35] m gonna [1:41:37] take it a step back and not [1:41:40] only for, for all of us. Not [1:41:42] here, but for our folks [1:41:44] watching from home either now [1:41:46] or later, um, can you share a [1:41:49] little bit how is [1:41:49] prioritization determined as of [1:41:53] right now? So, you know, when [1:41:57] we go into this time period of [1:41:58] people applying, how do, how, [1:42:00] you know, how do we do [1:42:01] prioritization? How does the, [1:42:06] um Community panel review and [1:42:08] selection committee. How, how [1:42:10] do they define, you know, um, [1:42:12] the priorities of, of this, [1:42:15] this program right now. Yeah, [1:42:18] thank you for that question. Uh, [1:42:20] the primary driver of us [1:42:22] proposing this program design [1:42:24] change is because we do not [1:42:27] currently have a way of [1:42:30] evaluating prioritization among, [1:42:32] um, applications, we do have [1:42:34] standard evaluation criteria, [1:42:37] um, and as we noted, we are [1:42:38] receiving far more requests [1:42:39] than we [1:42:42] re able to fund, and it [1:42:43] has been a challenge for our [1:42:46] community panels to use the [1:42:48] Current evaluation criteria to [1:42:50] prioritize, so we are hoping [1:42:52] that by adopting impact focus [1:42:54] areas and incorporating those [1:42:56] into the evaluation criteria of [1:42:57] will provide a tool for our [1:43:00] community panel to be able to, [1:43:02] to look more at applications [1:43:03] that align with, um, outcome [1:43:06] goals. Yeah. No, that, thank [1:43:08] you. I think that was very [1:43:09] helpful and I think that [1:43:10] hopefully that [1:43:11] s helpful to my [1:43:14] colleagues, um, as well. I, I [1:43:17] wanna make sure that You know, [1:43:20] obviously, we need focus. We [1:43:21] need focus, and we need focus [1:43:23] areas, right, when we [1:43:23] re [1:43:27] identifying the, the best [1:43:28] criteria to evaluate [1:43:30] applications and, uh, program [1:43:32] effectiveness, but I also think [1:43:34] that, um, there is a, a part of [1:43:38] it. That should also be [1:43:41] reflective of the mayor and [1:43:42] council priorities. So that, [1:43:46] you know, um You have kind of [1:43:49] set in criteria. But let [1:43:49] s say, [1:43:51] you know, um, actually, this is [1:43:54] a great example of it. This [1:43:56] mayor and council. Really [1:44:01] wanted to Step in, provide, [1:44:03] protect the community from the [1:44:03] decisions of the federal [1:44:07] government. Maybe not all, you [1:44:09] know, mayoral councils might, [1:44:12] might, you know, wanna do that. [1:44:15] Or see it differently, but we [1:44:17] obviously want You know, to [1:44:21] support. Applicants that are [1:44:23] filling a gap because of what [1:44:24] the federal government has done [1:44:28] right now. Um, so I, I, I hope [1:44:29] that, you know, um, maybe as [1:44:31] part of the community panel [1:44:35] review. Just in some way, [1:44:36] taking the, the discussions [1:44:38] that we have, like our [1:44:40] strategic priorities. We have [1:44:42] those sessions and, and maybe [1:44:44] in working with, um, MR. City [1:44:46] Manager working with that. To [1:44:53] help inform. Mm, uh, the, the, [1:44:54] the community panel review, [1:44:56] that this is something that the [1:44:58] mayor and council also find [1:45:00] these are also, um, priorities [1:45:02] as well. I think sometimes [1:45:02] that [1:45:03] s been the disconnect. I [1:45:05] know at least for me in that [1:45:05] I [1:45:07] m like, well, I thought we [1:45:08] were prioritizing this, and [1:45:10] then this kind of comes out of [1:45:11] nowhere, you know, I, I [1:45:11] m, I [1:45:12] m [1:45:13] trying to kinda, you know, [1:45:16] thread the needle between Here [1:45:17] are our values, these will [1:45:20] always be our values, and then, [1:45:23] you know, the focus of a [1:45:25] particular elected body. Um, [1:45:28] and being able to kinda, um, [1:45:30] nimble in that way. I [1:45:30] appreciate that you [1:45:30] re really [1:45:34] built in a lot of flexibility. [1:45:35] Into the, the process because I [1:45:38] think That is, uh, that is, um, [1:45:42] uh a good, um, indicator of a [1:45:43] very well-designed program is [1:45:45] that you do have that [1:45:48] flexibility. Um, I love a lot [1:45:52] of stuff that you proposed in [1:45:53] This, uh, a lot of things that [1:45:54] you [1:45:56] ve, uh, proposed, including, [1:45:58] and, you know, Maybe it [1:45:59] s just [1:46:02] me, um, but I, I really love [1:46:05] the, um I [1:46:06] m looking for it, [1:46:09] sorry, that there was a, a [1:46:13] section in here that Um, would [1:46:16] allow for, um The modest cost [1:46:18] of service adjustments subject [1:46:19] to available funding. I think [1:46:20] that that [1:46:23] s Fantastic. Um, [1:46:25] speak again, speaking as [1:46:26] somebody who works at a [1:46:29] nonprofit, um, who has [1:46:30] submitted so many grant [1:46:32] applications and had to explain [1:46:35] ok, so this is why this year [1:46:35] I [1:46:36] m asking for a little bit [1:46:37] more, and it [1:46:38] s because x, y, [1:46:39] and z, there definitely has to [1:46:42] be that kind of, uh, cost of [1:46:44] living adjustment in, in terms [1:46:47] of, of grants, so I really [1:46:49] appreciate that. Mhm. Also want [1:46:51] to note, we talked to a lot of [1:46:54] folks, a lot of my colleagues. [1:46:55] Talked about the economic [1:47:00] mobility. Um, Portion of the, [1:47:01] the impact priorities. I will [1:47:05] say, um, just as an fyi, um I [1:47:08] think myself and I believe [1:47:12] MADAM Mayor, also met, um, [1:47:14] representatives from the new, [1:47:15] uh, Maryland Department of [1:47:17] Social and Economic Mobility. I [1:47:18] think there [1:47:18] s, they [1:47:19] re really [1:47:19] trying, yeah, they [1:47:20] re, there [1:47:20] s [1:47:22] some great folks. And I think [1:47:23] that, you know, they [1:47:25] re, [1:47:25] they [1:47:28] re even closer to, um, the [1:47:30] community as well as than a [1:47:31] national entity, I think the [1:47:32] Urban Institute is, is [1:47:33] fantastic, but I would, I would [1:47:35] love to kind of see more, you [1:47:40] know, um leaning on our state [1:47:43] partners, um, for Their [1:47:44] perspectives and resources. I [1:47:45] know it [1:47:46] s a brand new, uh, [1:47:48] cabinet position, so like, no [1:47:50] pressure, but, um, I think [1:47:51] there [1:47:52] s an opportunity there to [1:47:53] really, um, get some good [1:47:58] information. Um, I, I [1:47:59] absolutely love the Impact [1:48:03] focus areas. I. At first I was [1:48:04] like, oh, this is in my mind. [1:48:04] I [1:48:06] m like, oh, this is missing, [1:48:08] this is missing, this is [1:48:11] missing. Um I, I don [1:48:11] t [1:48:15] necessarily Think that we need [1:48:20] to Discreetly outline Everybody [1:48:23] who makes up a family, right? [1:48:25] Everybody that makes up, you [1:48:27] know, you, I think that that [1:48:29] the, the devil is gonna be in [1:48:32] the details of how You know, [1:48:35] you define each of these [1:48:36] proposed impact focus areas, [1:48:39] and then That those kind of [1:48:41] shared definitions will also [1:48:43] help us to understand, I think, [1:48:47] as well, um, sort of having [1:48:49] very distinct, um, definitions [1:48:50] and I totally appreciate the [1:48:51] context of the chart. That was [1:48:55] really helpful. I think level [1:48:57] setting that we see economic [1:48:59] mobility as our desire to x, y, [1:49:02] and z. Um, that [1:49:03] ll help, I [1:49:05] think, maybe, um, uh, make [1:49:07] things a little bit more clear, [1:49:08] not only for us but for the [1:49:10] community. And for, um [1:49:16] potential Grantees. Um, I, I, I [1:49:17] think I [1:49:20] ve said this before, [1:49:21] but under community service and [1:49:24] empowerment grants. If we call [1:49:25] it senior services, can you [1:49:27] please call it Youth Services. [1:49:30] Um, you know, some of, some of [1:49:31] the youth that we really want [1:49:32] to work with, they [1:49:33] re already a [1:49:35] pretty developed. They [1:49:36] re [1:49:36] probably more empathetic than a [1:49:39] lot of, uh, adults that I know. [1:49:43] Um, and I think that youth [1:49:44] services is uh a more expansive [1:49:47] way of, of looking at their [1:49:50] needs. I wanna co-sign with my [1:49:51] With MADAM Mayor said that in [1:49:55] particular And to what MR. City [1:49:55] Manager talked about, I think [1:49:57] that We [1:50:01] ll have a lot more, um [1:50:03] Uh, information. Here [1:50:03] s another [1:50:05] great example of the [1:50:07] cross-pollination of Mar and [1:50:09] council priorities with, um, [1:50:10] our grant program is that we [1:50:11] re [1:50:12] gonna have work sessions [1:50:14] specifically on, on youth [1:50:15] programming in particular for [1:50:17] at-risk youth, and I [1:50:17] m hoping [1:50:18] that it [1:50:20] ll help to inform. Um, [1:50:22] our, our grant process as well [1:50:26] because we keep kinda Getting, [1:50:28] um, I think we can definitely [1:50:31] get some maybe, um Be not [1:50:35] better, um, more grantees or [1:50:36] potential grantees that would [1:50:39] be in those areas if We, you [1:50:40] know, kinda share that that [1:50:40] s [1:50:41] also a priority of marriage [1:50:45] council. Um, None of these are [1:50:48] questions, by the way, so you [1:50:48] haven [1:50:49] t missed anything. This [1:50:50] is more of off the top of my [1:50:52] head, like Been thinking [1:50:55] through a lot of this. Mhm. I, [1:50:59] I, I also want to know that, um [1:50:59] You know, and if we [1:51:00] re, if [1:51:00] we [1:51:01] re looking at at-risk youth [1:51:05] programming. I will continue to, [1:51:09] to hope that we, as part of [1:51:10] community resiliency, um, could [1:51:12] look at, um, you know, uh, [1:51:16] encouraging Applications from [1:51:18] folks that work with in the [1:51:19] substance use or recovery [1:51:22] community space. As well as in [1:51:26] the veteran space. Um, in [1:51:27] particular, and I know that [1:51:30] sometimes a lot of people tend [1:51:33] to, um, assume, and I am also [1:51:34] defer to my colleague council [1:51:36] member DR. Miles. A lot of [1:51:38] people seem to think, oh, well, [1:51:41] the veterans go to va. Well, [1:51:43] the va has cut back on a lot of [1:51:45] programs right now too, so I [1:51:45] think if they [1:51:46] re, again, if [1:51:46] there [1:51:48] s a way that we can [1:51:51] Provide help. In any way to our [1:51:52] veteran community here in the [1:51:54] city. I, I really hope that we [1:51:58] do. Um, Let [1:52:00] s see. Do do do. I [1:52:03] already mentioned that. About [1:52:07] community resiliency. Uh, so I [1:52:13] will say, um I think that I [1:52:20] think generally. We are We are, [1:52:23] we as a city and, uh, your, [1:52:25] your team, uh, in particular, [1:52:27] MS. Shishka and MISS Mazel are [1:52:29] really good about kind of [1:52:31] applying the equity lens, um, [1:52:33] because you, you all work so [1:52:40] closely. Um, With, uh, uh Risks [1:52:41] and marginalized communities, [1:52:43] but, you know, Maybe it [1:52:45] s a, a [1:52:50] good approach for the Community [1:52:52] panel review if we had, you [1:52:55] know, um, our own internal city [1:52:58] equity focus areas. I tend to [1:53:00] always look to see, you know, I, [1:53:01] you want programs that serve [1:53:02] the city as a whole, absolutely. [1:53:07] We have sometimes seen, um, [1:53:08] programs that were, um, [1:53:13] centered in Areas that are, are, [1:53:16] are not in need. If I can, uh, [1:53:18] be kind about it, and so I [1:53:19] would love, and I [1:53:20] d love to [1:53:24] hear, hear your thought, um, on [1:53:25] developing equity of focus [1:53:28] areas that would then encourage, [1:53:30] um, you know, both the, the [1:53:33] community panel review. Folks [1:53:37] as well as applicants. From, [1:53:38] you know, uh, organizations [1:53:40] that would work in particular [1:53:41] in the communities that are [1:53:42] most in need. I would love to [1:53:45] hear your thoughts on that. [1:53:47] Yeah, thank you for the that [1:53:48] question. I think there [1:53:49] s a [1:53:51] real opportunity for it, the [1:53:52] grants application and [1:53:54] evaluation, and you mentioned [1:53:56] the community panel to align [1:53:57] with the Jedi strategic [1:53:58] priorities. I [1:53:59] m really looking [1:54:00] forward to working with the [1:54:02] Jedi team on that that recently [1:54:05] with, um, Jean Booth, of course, [1:54:07] um, looking at what was just [1:54:08] adopted and our year 1 work [1:54:10] ahead of us, and I think [1:54:10] there [1:54:13] s going to be so many [1:54:14] opportunities for us to, um, [1:54:17] extend That work that we [1:54:17] re [1:54:20] gonna do to adopt the 7 [1:54:22] strategic priorities, um, into [1:54:23] our departments, into our [1:54:26] program, and then into the work [1:54:27] that we do through nonprofit [1:54:28] partnerships. So, I think that [1:54:32] that is a real opportunity. [1:54:32] Absolutely, and, and I [1:54:33] m, thank [1:54:33] you. I [1:54:34] m really looking forward [1:54:36] to it cause there [1:54:36] s so much [1:54:39] overlap, um So, so yeah, I [1:54:41] absolutely to go to the, the [1:54:43] questions, um, absolutely, we [1:54:46] need to adopt. Um, impact focus [1:54:50] areas. We don [1:54:51] t have focus [1:54:52] areas right now. We need to [1:54:55] make it, um, easier for our, uh, [1:55:01] community panel. Reviewers, um, [1:55:03] to be able to effectively, um [1:55:06] Select From pools of applicants, [1:55:07] I don [1:55:08] t know how else we would [1:55:09] do that if we don [1:55:10] t have a way [1:55:13] for prioritization. So for my [1:55:15] colleagues that are not, um, [1:55:17] who have shared already that [1:55:18] they, they kinda wanna defer on [1:55:21] this. I understand cause at [1:55:23] first I was the same way, but [1:55:23] now I [1:55:27] m realizing that we have [1:55:28] no distinct prioritization [1:55:29] matrix, then, then this is what [1:55:32] this would be. So, um, [1:55:34] absolutely, I support number 1. [1:55:39] Mhm. I think You know, I, I, [1:55:42] for num, for question number 2, [1:55:45] Should 1 or 2 be prioritized? I, [1:55:46] I don [1:55:47] t know why we wouldn [1:55:47] t [1:55:51] prioritize all of them, but I [1:55:52] guess my answer is 1 or 2 is it [1:55:57] works, but If these are gonna [1:55:59] help with prioritization, um, I, [1:56:01] it would be really hard for me [1:56:05] to, to determine Which would be [1:56:06] prioritized over others. I [1:56:06] don [1:56:09] t think that we necessarily [1:56:10] need more data on this because [1:56:14] we already have. Decades of, of [1:56:15] data that fall into these, [1:56:20] these, uh, categories. Um, I, I [1:56:24] do agree, uh. We have high [1:56:27] performing programs. We have [1:56:29] some of our grantees who have [1:56:30] Received grants from the city [1:56:32] for over a decade, if not more. [1:56:36] And You know, it does beg the [1:56:39] question for me. Twofold. [1:56:41] Absolutely, if, if the proven [1:56:42] program in the city, they [1:56:43] should absolutely have a [1:56:45] streamlined renewal pathway. [1:56:47] Checks and balances, guardrails, [1:56:51] of course. Um, you know, change [1:56:53] in nonprofit leadership, [1:56:55] ongoing site visits, I kinda, I, [1:56:55] I [1:56:56] ve definitely, I [1:56:56] ve [1:56:58] experienced all of that, so I [1:56:58] don [1:56:59] t think any nonprofits [1:57:02] would, would be upset with that, [1:57:04] but, you know, I also sit back [1:57:07] and I, I say, I think sometimes [1:57:10] at what point We as a city look [1:57:12] deeper at the services the city [1:57:14] has funded for 20 plus years, [1:57:15] right? Like, like we [1:57:17] re, we [1:57:18] have this ongoing relationship. [1:57:21] And are, are we just kind of [1:57:23] there, um, an extension of the [1:57:25] city at that point? Are they [1:57:26] serving more, less, I don [1:57:26] t [1:57:29] know, but, you know, we do have [1:57:31] long-standing, um, nonprofit [1:57:33] partners who are is providing [1:57:36] um Uh, amazing services. So I [1:57:40] do absolutely. Support a [1:57:41] streamlined renewal pathway [1:57:44] again with guardrails, um, and, [1:57:46] and site visits and all that. [1:57:54] Before I ok, um. 3 last points [1:57:55] and then I will pass it along. [1:58:00] Um, 122 other things I [1:58:00] ve been [1:58:01] challenged with when I [1:58:01] ve [1:58:03] looked at the community grants. [1:58:05] The first one is the funding of [1:58:07] programs. That are run by the [1:58:11] Montgomery County. And I [1:58:13] m [1:58:14] challenged by this because the [1:58:15] county has a much bigger budget [1:58:19] than we do. Yeah, absolutely [1:58:21] supportive of, of counting [1:58:21] programs. Don [1:58:23] t get me wrong. [1:58:25] But, um, it, it, to me, always [1:58:30] seems Little odd. At the county [1:58:32] with, with a lot more money [1:58:35] than we do is coming to us [1:58:38] asking for a grant to help a [1:58:40] program that they run, [1:58:41] obviously, Rockville residents [1:58:44] can get the benefits of the [1:58:47] program. But it, it [1:58:48] s a weird [1:58:50] imbalance in my brain, you know, [1:58:51] um, I [1:58:52] ll just, um, I [1:58:52] ll take [1:58:53] the case of like, you know, I [1:58:55] used to work for a local [1:58:57] chapter of a nonprofit. And it [1:59:00] would be like the national [1:59:02] headquarters saying to the [1:59:04] state chapter, um, yeah, you [1:59:05] gotta pony up some money so [1:59:07] that we can do this across the [1:59:08] United States and it [1:59:08] s like, [1:59:11] why are you coming to me? Like [1:59:14] I have no budget. So I, I, I am [1:59:15] definitely challenged by that. [1:59:19] Mm. The other thing, and I, one [1:59:20] of my colleagues mentioned, um, [1:59:22] this as well, and actually, MS. [1:59:24] Shosa, you mentioned this too. [1:59:29] Um In order to, um Really [1:59:31] connect of funding. An event [1:59:34] Opportunity I [1:59:34] m really, I [1:59:37] really got to see it connect [1:59:39] easily to, to Rockville [1:59:39] businesses. I think it [1:59:41] s great. [1:59:44] If, um, people come, you know, [1:59:45] to the city for something like, [1:59:49] um The f. Scott Fitzgerald [1:59:51] Literary Festival. But where is [1:59:52] the direct connection to a [1:59:57] Rockville business. I, I want, [1:59:59] I obviously want people to, to [2:00:02] come here and Spend their [2:00:04] economic dollars and, you know, [2:00:05] their businesses. I think we [2:00:07] all do. But it [2:00:08] s tough if the [2:00:12] programs are being held in [2:00:14] locations are not easily, um, a [2:00:15] few businesses are not easily [2:00:18] accessible. And I think can be, [2:00:20] um, um Kind of ignored, you [2:00:22] could kind of dip dip into an [2:00:24] event and dip out. So I just [2:00:25] wanted to share that that [2:00:26] s one [2:00:26] of the things that I [2:00:26] m [2:00:29] challenged with. Final thing is [2:00:32] a question and a comment. I [2:00:33] think probably more than [2:00:35] anything in the grant process, [2:00:35] I [2:00:43] ve really been Cha I, um The [2:00:44] lack of um clarity, at least to [2:00:50] me. Around, um, Grant recipient, [2:00:52] grant recipients. And the [2:00:57] lobbying of The city on, on [2:00:58] policy decisions or potential [2:01:01] decisions. I think that in no [2:01:03] way, shape or form does anybody [2:01:08] want to eliminate free speech. [2:01:09] I, I, that is not what I [2:01:09] m [2:01:12] saying. I also know that as a [2:01:14] Somebody who has been at the [2:01:18] grantee. I know that I had [2:01:19] guardrails and there were [2:01:20] bright lines between what I [2:01:23] could and could not do. In [2:01:24] terms of engagement with, with [2:01:28] the grant tour. Mm I, I think [2:01:33] that It is distressing to me. [2:01:34] We give essentially a general [2:01:38] grant. Do, you know, ensure [2:01:41] That a program continues or an [2:01:42] organization continues, and [2:01:43] that money then I turned around. [2:01:47] 22 lobbyists on a particular [2:01:50] policy. I would really, and I [2:01:52] appreciate that we have a [2:01:54] conflict of interest, um, in [2:01:56] terms of the, uh Election [2:01:59] committee. I would really like [2:02:02] to see some, some ethical [2:02:04] language, maybe from the city [2:02:07] attorney office. Something [2:02:08] around that idea that everybody [2:02:11] can do anything they want as a [2:02:12] resident of of Rockville as a [2:02:15] resident of Montgomery County. [2:02:16] Think that the challenges when [2:02:20] you Are the the head or an [2:02:24] employee of a grantee. There [2:02:25] are different conditions, um, [2:02:28] that, that do apply. And, um, I, [2:02:30] I would really wanna see some [2:02:31] bright lines, um, some [2:02:34] guardrails. So that we know [2:02:36] that the money that we are [2:02:39] investing in the nonprofit. Is [2:02:41] not being invested in lobbying [2:02:44] us. And that, um, that [2:02:44] s really [2:02:48] my point. So, um, I, I will end, [2:02:49] I will end there. I would love [2:02:51] to hear my, my colleague [2:02:51] s [2:02:53] thoughts on that as well. Um, [2:02:54] and really wanna, wanna thank [2:02:55] you all. I know how tough this [2:02:57] is, so. Appreciate it. Thank [2:03:02] you. Thank you very much, [2:03:05] Doctor Miles. Thank you, MADAM [2:03:08] Mayor, I want to echo my thanks [2:03:11] to the presenters on this. I [2:03:11] ll [2:03:14] keep it brief. After hearing my [2:03:14] colleague [2:03:16] s comments and Thank [2:03:20] you for those. In terms of [2:03:23] answering your questions. [2:03:25] Question 1, yes, uh, I think [2:03:28] that the 5 proposed impact [2:03:30] focus areas should be adopted. [2:03:32] There were 2, whether not any [2:03:33] should be prioritized, I [2:03:34] m not, [2:03:36] I think as was mentioned by a [2:03:37] couple of colleagues earlier, I [2:03:38] don [2:03:38] t think it [2:03:41] s necessary. [2:03:42] Prioritize 1 or 2, I think [2:03:42] they [2:03:45] re, they are all important, [2:03:47] um, if, however, there was [2:03:48] Movement among my colleagues, [2:03:50] like the majority said they [2:03:52] want to prioritize, uh, a bias [2:03:54] toward the youth family [2:03:55] services and household [2:03:56] stability, um, among others, [2:03:59] but again, I think all of them [2:04:02] are important, and then third. [2:04:03] The streamlined renewal process, [2:04:05] yes, I think, you know, I [2:04:06] d [2:04:06] like the caveats that I [2:04:06] ll put [2:04:08] in there that they must reapply [2:04:12] for 2 cycles. I think larger [2:04:12] organizations that are more [2:04:15] seasoned and polished. Have [2:04:20] oftentimes. Can, can. Be [2:04:22] somewhat advantaged in, uh, in [2:04:24] applying for these programs. [2:04:26] Relative to those who smaller [2:04:27] perhaps with less experience, [2:04:29] but I think the guardrails that [2:04:30] you all have outlined makes [2:04:31] sense to me and I can support [2:04:32] that. That [2:04:33] s all I have. Thank [2:04:39] you. Thank you very much. I am [2:04:40] just looking for additional [2:04:42] hands, Mississ City Manager, I [2:04:42] think we [2:04:43] ve answered all of [2:04:46] your key, you know, majority of [2:04:48] an your key questions. Uh, do [2:04:49] you have any followup questions [2:04:51] for us. I do not, I just want [2:04:54] to clarify, so I did hear a [2:04:55] majority support for the 5 [2:04:58] Impact focus areas. I heard [2:04:58] some interest and [2:05:00] prioritization, maybe an [2:05:02] ongoing discussion, but not [2:05:03] necessarily picking 2 for next [2:05:06] year, and I absolutely heard [2:05:08] unanimous support for, um, the [2:05:09] streamlining of high-performing [2:05:09] programs. So I did get the [2:05:10] direction we needed. Thank you, [2:05:12] Mayor. Thank you, and I see [2:05:13] Councilor Shaw [2:05:18] s hand. Thank [2:05:19] you, MADAM Mayor. I did just [2:05:20] want to circle back. I can [2:05:20] t [2:05:21] hear you, can you please come [2:05:25] off mute? Can you hear me now? [2:05:26] Yes, thank you, yeah, I did [2:05:28] just want to circle back, um, [2:05:31] just as a member of the body to [2:05:32] share my feedback, um, and I [2:05:34] want to thank my colleagues for, [2:05:35] um, the really great questions [2:05:37] that they asked. Um, so should [2:05:40] the city adopt, uh, 5 proposed [2:05:44] impact focus areas, yes, um. Uh, [2:05:47] number 2, which I think, uh, [2:05:48] was slightly touched on by one [2:05:50] of my colleagues surrounding [2:05:53] data, um. Should 1 or 2 of [2:05:55] these impact focus areas be [2:05:57] prioritized. I still think that [2:05:59] we should have data and that [2:06:01] goes back to, um, like if we [2:06:02] wanna talk about equity, that [2:06:06] goes back to the equity process [2:06:06] where we [2:06:07] re sharing data to [2:06:09] figure out where the gaps are [2:06:11] in certain populations for to [2:06:12] inform our decisions, and that [2:06:14] data is not just for us, but [2:06:14] it [2:06:16] s also for the public to [2:06:18] make sure that when we say that [2:06:22] we are, um. Uh, advancing [2:06:23] equity that that aligns with [2:06:24] the metrics and the data. So I [2:06:25] would just need to see more [2:06:29] data, and then number 3, should [2:06:31] the city provide a streamlined [2:06:33] renewal pathway for [2:06:34] high-performing programs, yes, [2:06:37] and I also think we need to be [2:06:39] careful, um, to make sure that [2:06:42] we are also providing [2:06:44] opportunities to support, um, [2:06:46] some of the smaller nonprofits, [2:06:50] um. As they grow, uh, so that [2:06:52] they can also become one of our [2:06:53] high performing programs [2:06:55] because a lot of, a lot of, uh, [2:06:56] our high performing programs [2:06:58] are from some of the larger [2:07:02] nonprofits, so thank you. Thank [2:07:05] you very much. I appreciate the [2:07:06] diversity of comments from my [2:07:08] colleagues. Uh, thank you for [2:07:08] answering the specific [2:07:09] questions. I think we [2:07:09] ve given [2:07:12] staff a lot to think about, um, [2:07:14] I will wrap with just, uh, in [2:07:15] terms of next steps, if you [2:07:17] could go back to that so that [2:07:19] we can take another look. I do [2:07:22] know that, um, the timing for [2:07:25] grants is coming up very soon. [2:07:26] Uh, so I believe that you [2:07:26] re [2:07:28] gonna have some of those, take [2:07:31] our feedback and then move to [2:07:31] open the application soon. Is [2:07:33] that correct? That is correct, [2:07:37] yes. So you typically do [2:07:38] information sessions in [2:07:41] SEPTEMBER. Uh, SEPTEMBER and [2:07:43] OCTOBER, yes. Ok. And the [2:07:46] deadline will be? OCTOBER 6, [2:07:49] yes, I believe OCTOBER 16th, [2:07:49] yeah, the only thing I [2:07:50] ll say [2:07:51] about that is given that we [2:07:51] re [2:07:52] making some changes, you MAY [2:07:54] want to look up that a little [2:07:55] bit just because people are [2:07:57] gonna have to revise their [2:07:58] application significantly, [2:08:00] wanna Maybe participate in 1 or [2:08:03] 2 of the sessions that you have, [2:08:06] uh, we are moving from 9 [2:08:08] categories to about 5, so I [2:08:11] just wanted to note that, um, [2:08:11] and I [2:08:13] ll just also say, um, I, [2:08:14] I think that one of the things [2:08:17] we saw with the last Grant [2:08:17] piece of it [2:08:19] s we, we were [2:08:20] trying to, um, spread a little [2:08:22] thin, so I just, I, to the [2:08:23] comments of my colleagues [2:08:25] looking at data, looking at [2:08:26] impact, and meeting the needs [2:08:28] of the community is very [2:08:29] important, so, um, thank you [2:08:31] for that. And then the last [2:08:34] thing is related to the um [2:08:36] microgrants, uh, the schedule [2:08:37] is slightly different for that. [2:08:37] We [2:08:38] ll just make sure that we [2:08:38] don [2:08:40] t inadvertently. Have an [2:08:41] issue with some of the [2:08:42] programming, right, because I [2:08:44] know the timing is gonna shift [2:08:46] to make sure that we, the ones [2:08:47] we have supported, will still [2:08:49] get their fr 27, and then we [2:08:49] ll [2:08:51] work to make sure that it [2:08:51] s in [2:08:54] time, given that That [2:08:54] s [2:08:55] shifting until MAY for the next [2:08:56] year, I just, I just want to [2:08:57] take a look at that and make [2:08:57] sure that we don [2:08:59] t cause any [2:09:00] issues there. Yes, absolutely. [2:09:01] We can definitely make sure [2:09:04] that those dates are lining up [2:09:06] and we support that continuity [2:09:08] of programming. Thank you, and [2:09:10] I wanted to just also chime on [2:09:12] other the, the comments on [2:09:13] community resiliency or that [2:09:14] word resiliency, I do love that [2:09:15] and I appreciate the, the [2:09:18] feedback. Of all of my [2:09:21] colleagues. Ok. Anything else [2:09:29] from your end? Ok. Thank you [2:09:30] very much, we appreciate it, [2:09:30] we [2:09:31] ll look forward to that, and [2:09:33] I know, um, information will be [2:09:36] going out to our grantees, uh, [2:09:37] end of AUGUST and SEPTEMBER so [2:09:38] that you can advertise those [2:09:41] information sessions. Thank you. [2:09:53] Ok. Pulling up my agenda here. [2:09:57] Oh jeez. Ok, so we had an lpt [2:09:59] meeting this morning to review [2:10:01] the mock agenda, uh, so we did [2:10:02] have a nice discussion on that, [2:10:03] just wanna want to pause and [2:10:04] see if anyone has anything else [2:10:12] to add on mock agenda. Ok, uh, [2:10:13] next, wanted to open up for all [2:10:17] new business. Ok. I just wanna [2:10:18] note that this is our virtual [2:10:19] meeting, Mayor and council is [2:10:20] on recess during the month of [2:10:22] AUGUST, there are still things [2:10:24] that the city is still running, [2:10:24] and we [2:10:26] re still supporting and, [2:10:28] and accessible, but please feel [2:10:29] free to reach out to us as you [2:10:31] need, we will not be having [2:10:32] meetings during the month of [2:10:35] AUGUST, uh, and thank all of [2:10:36] our team and our staff, I hope, [2:10:37] hopefully some of them get to [2:10:39] get a little bit of a break in [2:10:41] between, uh, we were back in [2:10:42] SEPTEMBER, uh, and continuing [2:10:43] to move forward to the business. [2:10:47] Do we have a motion to adjourn? [2:10:49] Motion to adjourn. Thank you, [2:10:52] do we have a second? Second. [2:10:54] Excellent, uh, COUNCILMAN Brett [2:10:55] Jackson made the motion. [2:10:56] COUNCILMAN Van Grag seconded. [2:10:56] All those in favor, please [2:11:00] raise your hand and say aye. [2:11:00] Excellent. Have a wonderful [2:11:03] summer, everyone. Take care.