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[5:28] Recording, in progress.
[5:55] Good evening. Welcome everyone to the Rosemary Public Safety Commission meeting of February 27, 2025.
[6:02] Um, like to call the meeting to order.
[6:05] 707 PM. Can we have our, I will start with the pledge of allegiance.
[6:12] That by
[6:16] commissioner.
[6:18] Okay. And then followed by invocation.
[6:26] Thank you.
[6:31] I pledge allegiance to the United States to America and to the Republic for which it sounds.
[6:38] One nation under God, individual, liberty and justice for all.
[6:43] Please remain standing for the invocation live by Commissioner Martinez.
[6:47] Thank
[6:50] you.
[7:05] Thank you.
[7:06] Thank you.
[7:07] Take a seat.
[7:08] Can we have our roll call please?
[7:11] Yes.
[7:12] Okay.
[7:13] Commissioner Liz Fonseca.
[7:14] Here.
[7:14] Commissioner Jeff Fels.
[7:16] Commissioner Jonathan Fung is excuse for today.
[7:19] Commissioner Sir Fung is excuse.
[7:21] Commissioner Tommy Martinez.
[7:23] Vice chair Stephanie Garcia's excuse.
[7:25] And chair Amy Wu.
[7:27] Okay.
[7:27] I conclude that roll call.
[7:29] Thank you.
[7:30] Do we have any other comments from the audience?
[7:32] There's no public comments received.
[7:34] Thank you.
[7:36] All right.
[7:37] Item two, consent calendar.
[7:39] Secular these items are not subject to the California Environmental Policy Act.
[7:43] Item two, a minutes of the January 23rd, 2025 meeting.
[7:51] Let's see.
[7:53] Have a chance to remove it.
[7:58] All right.
[7:59] Perfect.
[7:59] Is there a second?
[8:01] Second.
[8:03] Thank you.
[8:04] May we have roll call.
[8:04] Okay,
[8:14] we have Commissioner, let's once again.
[8:19] Commissioner Jeff Altz?
[8:20] Yes.
[8:20] Commissioner Tommy Martinez?
[8:21] Yes.
[8:22] And Chair Wu?
[8:23] Yes.
[8:25] Without the motion passes for all.
[8:27] Thank you.
[8:29] All right.
[8:29] Item number three matters from staff.
[8:31] Secret these items are not subject to the California Environmental Quality Act.
[8:35] 3A LA County Fire Department.
[8:38] Any MS incident reports?
[8:41] Thank you, Chair.
[8:41] will the report is included in your agenda packet? Unfortunately we do not have a representative
[8:48] from the foreign department but if there's any questions I can take that and get back with the
[8:55] information.
[9:00] I actually have a question and I wanted to follow up. I know last meeting I
[9:03] inquired about the homeless encampment on San Gabriel and Lincoln.
[9:11] So I reached out to the county
[9:14] because that's within the county's jurisdiction.
[9:17] County sent out, so actually the chief and I talked about this.
[9:22] The county sent out from Lassa to the site on two separate occasions, and I received, of course,
[9:30] on this from the county that they were unable to locate the encampment.
[9:36] Yes, so we will make a decision first to identify the exact locations and tell the county exactly where.
[9:49] My concern is that within the last month, I believe there, since the e-invirus was at January 7th to present day today, there's been about maybe two or three fires at that location.
[10:04] And there was one that happened maybe like three days ago.
[10:08] Yeah, you want to have a new one to talk about that.
[10:10] I think that was a fire, not a firework.
[10:13] Are you talking about fireworks of fire?
[10:15] The fireworks are separate.
[10:16] I'm sorry, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, but I also have a question on the firework,
[10:21] too. I happened. But, um, the fire, there was, maybe, within the last week, there was
[10:26] a fire at the homeless encampment. San Gabriel and Lincoln. Yeah, so let me better, better,
[10:30] but I identified the, uh, the location. I think we have to actually physically document, you
[10:35] know, photos and that being in this and it sent it out to the county. Um, loss, uh, from my
[10:42] recollection, Lassa, took our report, and I believe they contract with Union Station.
[10:50] And they were, they went out twice, I know that for sure, because I talked to them directly
[10:53] twice, and they basically said they couldn't locate the encampment.
[11:00] I just want to add, because I contacted the county office, it'll just look as office,
[11:06] and I let them know and this was maybe back in November and at that point in time they were doing
[11:13] sweeps of the area and so county is aware of the location of the encampment and the reason why I'm
[11:20] going to keep bringing it up is because it's a public safety concern not only because of the
[11:25] fires but also there are individuals at house individuals who live in that encampment and they come
[11:35] to Rosemeat side, and so one of these individuals attempted to get into my residence, and then
[11:43] three days after, exposed themselves to women in children at the pool, and then just last
[11:48] week or two weeks ago, the individual then came back, and was in the complex.
[11:54] And so I have neighbors who are very well aware of who this individual is.
[11:59] I've seen this individual defecating on site on public sidewalk, and so that's why I want to bring it to the city's attention because it is a safety concern, and there's always alerts or reports of, you know, just odd behavior that are happening with these individuals, and so I just want to have that document.
[12:23] I appreciate that information. So we will pay extra attention to that area.
[12:31] That's San Gabriel and Lincoln. Lincoln, like if you're going to grant re-ark in Monobello?
[12:37] It's off-site.
[12:38] Yeah, so it's Army Corps of Engineer, LA County, City of Monobello, and then Roseme at the tail end.
[12:50] Kevin, do you have any information about the homeless in that area?
[12:57] No, as Liz mentioned, we try to reach out, and unfortunately, it doesn't fall into the jurisdiction.
[13:02] It grows meat or the county.
[13:04] It's like a...
[13:07] It's not really our jurisdiction, for to say.
[13:13] You know, Lecata has actually gone out there to make outreach to some of those individuals.
[13:19] But I think because of the location and the jurisdiction, it's a little bit sticky situation with that.
[13:27] I'm
[13:33] going to talk about the fireworks.
[13:39] The fireworks at the eight, eight, nine.
[13:42] Are we your narrows?
[13:43] There were your narrows that Saturday evening.
[13:47] So there's two fireworks on Sunday or maybe one on sanction.
[13:51] One on sanction.
[13:52] One on the peak river.
[13:54] Sports arena.
[13:54] And one was the on sanctioned fireworks that were received reports.
[13:59] We hear narrows though.
[14:00] Falson that even though it can be in a city,
[14:02] all county parks within the jurisdiction.
[14:05] in the might fall under Temple Station. All county parks fall under what's referred to as
[14:09] Park Spurrow. So we any crime that occurs there, any calls for service, those get handled by our
[14:15] county parks bureau. Prior I believe about 2010, actually I have their own police department
[14:21] and they were responsible for county parks, the county police. They got absorbed by the shares department.
[14:26] So we do have a contract but any like I mentioned, any type they have their own reporting
[14:32] district, their own dispatch center and even that it's a severe incident will assist, but
[14:38] the first calls for service actually do go to our parks bureau. So that time temple station
[14:43] did not, although they received calls, they all get routed to our county services parks bureau
[14:48] to handle those types of calls and and subsequent investigations.
[14:55] Were there any citations or
[14:56] anything like that? I'm not aware because it wasn't handled.
[15:00] by our station. So even the calls for service even though we get the calls, they get routed all to
[15:05] parts bureau and then they have deputies assigned security officers. I know social media posts
[15:11] were presented and I did reach out to Ben and kind of shared a couple of those. So I know
[15:15] was a big ordeal and a big incident. So I'm assuming they responded and handled either citations,
[15:22] our rest or however they deemed appropriate?
[15:26] I just have a question because you brought up the topic of when an incident like that
[15:33] happens on county property, it then goes to parks bureau. Is that any crime that happens
[15:39] like if there's a assault that happens?
[15:43] Yes typically so even the county library. So the county library falls under jurisdiction
[15:48] So if a crime occurs inside the library, that's now handled by a county services unit.
[15:54] So any type if it's a robbery, assault, even we have some instances where dead bodies
[16:00] like wash up on the part of, they'll dump a body.
[16:05] That falls on the jurisdiction of parts.
[16:07] We'll assist, like I said, if it's an emergency type call, we may get the first call.
[16:11] They might call temple station.
[16:13] So we might send units with like the tyrants, but the subsequent investigation they have detectives.
[16:19] They do have a full operation staff that would be able to handle those.
[16:23] They have a special assignment officers, like I say, O's as well.
[16:26] So they have their own full bureau from deputies, detectives, sergeants, line staff,
[16:33] opera, a captain. But yes, those type of all those investigations, all those reports will be handled by
[16:40] they're jurisdiction.
[16:42] Thank you.
[16:50] Are there any other questions regarding the,
[16:52] I guess, L.A. County Fire and EMS,
[16:55] instead of the specifics,
[16:59] right?
[17:00] If not, then we will receive and file
[17:02] and we'll go on to item 3B.
[17:05] Look how to service reports.
[17:07] Thank you, Chair, will the Lakota service report
[17:11] for this period is included in your agenda packet?
[17:16] And I'll be happy to answer any questions.
[17:38] And maybe it's a good time for me to just kind of talk about the Lakota contract,
[17:43] and the topic of our homeless outreach efforts.
[17:51] I can't recall if we talked about it at the last meeting.
[17:54] But I think I did measure a, measure a funding.
[17:58] So it's been very active.
[17:59] As a matter of fact, Amanda and I attended a city manager's lunch in today when
[18:04] this was a topic and the representative from the county attended and provided additional information
[18:10] on measure A. And so I believe by April 1st, the county is going to decide the county supervisor
[18:20] is going to decide the actual distribution, how that's going to be calculated to the local jurisdictions.
[18:27] But basically, it's pretty complicated. There are six different scenarios. I believe six different scenarios.
[18:34] So city responded, city arose me, responded, out of the six, the city's preference for option number four,
[18:41] which is going to be the most amount of money coming to roast me. And I believe that was estimated at the current time,
[18:50] estimated to be around $200,000 annually. But again, that's dependent on the PIP count
[18:56] that's done annually, the point in time count. The PIP survey was last week. There we did
[19:06] do the count. There is an unofficial number that that was established at the count. It
[19:16] higher than last year. However, that information goes back to the county and then it gets
[19:24] finalized so we don't really release the number until it is finaled and provided to the city
[19:30] at a later time. So we're waiting on that number but going back to doing the calculations based
[19:38] on the last PIP number are current estimate for rose meat on an annual allocation is around
[19:44] $200,000 with I believe option number four out of the six and that's what the city
[19:50] communicated to the county that that is our preference. So by April 1st, if I'm correct, that
[19:58] we should have that information.
[20:02] The difference scenario is that there are 80 cities in
[20:08] county and I forget how many council of government or
[20:14] cog exist in this four or six or something like that.
[20:21] Option number one would be for the county to
[20:25] dispute the funds to the cog in our case,
[20:29] thank you for the council of government and the cog would do the
[20:34] program for the cities that it serves or the second option is for the cities to enter into
[20:44] a contract with the counties, the county, a direct contract, for the funds to be allocated
[20:50] directly to the city. And our preference, my preference, would be for the funds to come directly
[20:57] to us because I think Lakota is working out very fairly well for us.
[21:03] The cog also contracts with Lakota as well and when the service was first established
[21:12] with the county and the cog, the city was, the city of Rosemite was allocated only one day service per week.
[21:22] But since that has changed, Lakota's structure has changed and it's more about on call type of service, but basically what it is is we don't believe that city doesn't believe that's enough services, so that's why the city contracted Lakota directly.
[21:45] I'm hoping that the board of supervisors will find or determine that determine the direct
[21:53] allocation to the city of Rosemes so we can take that $200,000 and apply it to the Lakata
[22:00] contract on an ongoing basis because the city of Rosemes current contract with Lakata is
[22:07] funded with federal funds grant money which is going to expire I think in about a year or two
[22:14] years. We're spending about $1.4 million for a 4 year period. So when we have more information
[22:23] on where this is going to land with the county on this measure A, then we'll report back
[22:29] to you.
[22:33] Okay, thank you so much. Were there any other questions in regards to the Lafada service reports?
[22:42] No, there are questions. We will receive and file item number 3C, public safety, community
[22:48] service officer programs statistics.
[23:02] Yeah, Wayne, if you and your team want to come up, this is about the CSO program.
[23:06] Yeah, in case they have any questions. So I know this is a new report that you're going to
[23:10] see in front of you. So this is going to be the latest data that we have for the CSO program.
[23:17] So you should have that in your report. It is just the one-page software port.
[23:21] And these numbers were provided by Wayne Co. The public safety supervisor. So
[23:26] Please take a look and he's ready answer any questions.
[23:30] Hello, good evening.
[23:45] Why don't I just give a quick briefing.
[23:50] So the CSO program as a commission is aware is a program that the city has and we've had for a long time.
[24:00] It's called the Public Safety Community Service Office Officer program.
[24:05] The CSO worked a total of 28 shifts, providing six to eight hours of coverage, each shift to support the LASD service department operation.
[24:16] Just some notes here, within this period, 26 LASD calls for service were dispatched.
[24:23] 27 reports were taken, some reports included towing of services, towing of vehicles.
[24:28] 15 vehicles were recovered and stored, 19 red tags issued, which was chalked for chalked vehicles
[24:39] for some of the two hours, one assist with traffic control and 37 parking citations issued.
[24:47] So those were the six for the CSO program within this period.
[24:52] And I want to say I think, Wayne, if you want to just kind of jump in and see, just talk
[24:57] but you know how the program is operating and efficient it is.
[25:02] Sure. The program, it's supporting the LSD support patrol.
[25:10] It's been going fairly well and it's smooth with the two tentatories.
[25:16] He's been giving us positive feedback.
[25:20] So when staff don't have any calls, they'll be patrolling the city.
[25:26] to deter crime by being, by showing presence around the city.
[25:36] How many CSOs do we have currently?
[25:38] I currently have eight CSOs.
[25:41] We do a variety of duties.
[25:46] There's early morning patrols.
[25:49] I'm trying to backfill some of the spots that some of the other staff moved on.
[25:55] I currently have three CSOs that support LSD.
[26:01] My goal is to do a seven-day coverage. Currently it's only five days and I do have a
[26:08] code enforcement air flow to assist on the days that there's no coverage.
[26:17] CSOs, a part-time position,
[26:20] and my main goal is to do a seven-day and depending on the
[26:25] crown of the month or the week to fill those positions to adjust to the city.
[26:32] When do you see the CSOs as being like a floater, a lot of softball team, I mean, you should
[26:37] be able to plug them in as, as, because situation is constantly changed.
[26:42] Correct.
[26:42] comes up, life happens. And so you're able to give you greater flexibility for I hope that
[26:53] one day that there will be full-time positions for CSOs, but currently it's as part time
[26:58] and the only can work 28 hours a week per CSOs. And they can't work over 28 hours, so I have to
[27:07] make sure that they're within that 24 or 28 hours a week. So you're still having a juggle there.
[27:13] Yes, yeah, absolutely.
[27:15] There's the overnight patrol, LASD support parking
[27:20] control animal services.
[27:23] We juggle a lot in the small department.
[27:29] So I think it's great.
[27:31] I think you get it in a great job.
[27:33] And the nature of the CSO program, however,
[27:36] it is a part-time or time position.
[27:39] So we do have some difficulties at times,
[27:46] because with the number of staff, right? So, there are part-time positions and the CSOs
[27:57] will, they do aspire to take gain experience within the CDM, move on to a full-time position.
[28:04] So, we do have a lot of those. And they happen successful. Our CSOs have moved onto becoming
[28:10] live forcemen and different different things.
[28:13] So it is constant struggle to maintain the full bodies personnel.
[28:23] So it seems like we're always recruiting for CSOs.
[28:26] And we do our best at what is...
[28:30] Because I don't remember, what is the total number of CSOs that we've...
[28:36] The ethical capacity capacity currently have eight and I'm in the process of planing five more and
[28:46] That that
[28:47] For the so be 12 or 13 13 and I'm
[28:53] I'm gonna have a seven-day coverage on the CSL for at least eight to ten hours each day and
[28:59] The other staff would
[29:01] fill in the early morning patrol or handle animal calls
[29:08] And public safety, we operate a seven-day operation and it's usually a code enforcement.
[29:18] If we don't have part-time staff, then code enforcement will handle the operation, the daily operation.
[29:25] Yeah, and I want to give Kudos to Wayne, because when I started with the city seven years ago, eight years ago,
[29:33] Our public safety department did not operate seven days a week.
[29:38] It was only four days a week.
[29:39] It was four days a week.
[29:43] So over the years,
[29:45] it went to, did it go to five days a week?
[29:47] We went to, we added five days.
[29:50] And then we added Saturday and Sunday as well.
[29:53] So now it's a seven day a week operation.
[29:56] And also about two years ago.
[29:59] way in and it's
[30:00] This team also expanded that to provide nighttime coverage, because at that time, we were having some nighttime
[30:07] break-ins.
[30:12] And these businesses, excuse me, businesses were breaking in. So we called Wayne and his team
[30:18] along with, quote-unforce minutes, he has so provided nighttime coverage. And we haven't had a nighttime
[30:25] and you know in a very long time and I noticed that David Newman is here, the gentleman
[30:33] sitting in the back and he does, he's one of those gentlemen that provides nighttime coverage.
[30:40] So when I'm sleeping David's here, so driving around the city and responding, so
[30:45] who guess who or anything more?
[30:52] I have a question, let's just say you know it's midnight and there's a suspicious person
[30:57] walking around the city. What do I call?
[31:01] The Sheriff's Department. Sheriff's Department. Yes. Our staff, for the early morning ones,
[31:07] if they do cruise by, maybe they'll deter them from committing a crime. But if they do see
[31:15] something suspicious or something in progress, then they'll report to the Sheriff's Department.
[31:20] the staff won't engage with the suspicious person.
[31:26] Now, for clarity, you need to share this apartment.
[31:29] The landline for the Temple City, right?
[31:32] Six or six, two, eight, five, say one, seven, one.
[31:34] Yes. Not the, not one one, because it's not,
[31:38] no one's in danger.
[31:40] Yes.
[31:44] Can I ask, how, I guess, how calls are filters?
[31:48] So for example, if I call a regards to something,
[31:53] Maybe some non-emergency item right, whatever it is, right.
[31:59] We call tweet-five-seven-one-seven-one, and then, how does that actually get filtered down
[32:04] to whether Chef's department takes over or our own CSOs take over?
[32:09] Yeah, that's a great question.
[32:12] So the CSOs, as you mentioned, you know, worked a variety of different shifts.
[32:15] So when they log on, as soon as they log on and push send, the dispatcher's computer pops up that they're called size.
[32:23] So they're denote call signs five three David and five three D.
[32:29] And when the person calls in, they have a criteria.
[32:32] So we have a list of criteria that the CSOs can handle.
[32:37] So when the dispatcher takes the information, you call, you know, the type in the information.
[32:42] When the person decides whoever is going to handle that call, if they see a CSO working and that call meets the certain criteria, the threshold, then they'll sign that person a call.
[32:53] So for example, if it's a tropical issue with no injuries and they see the CSO's working instead of dispatching a deputy, they'll dispatch CSO.
[33:01] So if it's identity stuff with no workable information and they've no other computer that the CSOs dispatchable
[33:08] They'll issue they'll send that call to the CSO traffic and parking
[33:13] So that'll alleviate a deputy actually having a handle that call
[33:17] And in essence, civilianizing some calls for service to offset and augment the deputy's handling the calls
[33:25] So when they mentioned you know 26 calls
[33:28] for the last month, that's pretty impressive because that's 26 calls less that the
[33:33] deputies had to handle and respond to and response times and that's the whole
[33:37] objective is to offset the deputies' work load and just piggybacking, you know, the
[33:42] deputies are very, very appreciative of it from their perspective because that's 26
[33:47] you know, less calls that they had to handle and they could focus their time elsewhere
[33:52] that you're handing out of the calls or making a rest or what's not, what not.
[33:55] I have a question since the CSO program has gone live. Have you seen a reduction in response times?
[34:04] It's kind of tricky data right now, only because January through is for a kind of a monkey wrench.
[34:10] Because the program might live and then December we, you know, is a holiday season.
[34:14] But then January kind of through is for a monkey wrench with the fires and whatnot.
[34:18] And we still, we are still sending mobile fields forces, not on a daily basis, but on a constant
[34:24] weekly basis, one of our shifts.
[34:26] And what that basically entails is half of our patrol shift for that day.
[34:30] We're going to go to policies and within the past two weeks, we finally kind of society from
[34:36] sending those mobile forces.
[34:38] But during the fire situation, we're all on 12-hour shifts.
[34:41] Everybody was working either at A-Shift or at B-Shift and we're seeing half our personnel.
[34:45] So, a response time actually did increase, but without using the data behind it, we are
[34:52] seeing, you know, in theory, less calls for service or being handled by the deputies,
[34:57] which would imply a better time for the CSOs, because as mentioned, the CSOs is that
[35:03] the call volume isn't as high as the deputies.
[35:07] So, correct me if I'm wrong, Wayne, but when the CSOs get the call, their response
[35:10] times are pretty impressive, yes, they are, usually sometimes I believe they're only like
[35:18] blocks away and they'll just push acknowledge and 97 for a rival and it's within seconds
[35:24] or minutes.
[35:25] So the calls that they're having, the response times are very impressive, so we're checking
[35:29] and waiting and I discussed a person blocking a driveway might it's a low threshold call
[35:35] for the deputies that might have taken over an hour or only to be asked you.
[35:40] over an hour to respond to it with the with our triage however the CSO is that's only called
[35:44] are handling so they might get there within drive time however long it takes for
[35:49] to get them from what soon as they get the call to go to the call which is could be minutes so I do
[35:54] see without the data behind it but I do see the link you know just reviewing it has been pretty impressive
[36:02] and just just like you have clarification so when there's an issue
[36:10] it would contact the temple city sheriffs and then the dispatch will then triage the calls to the CSOs.
[36:19] CSOs have you know direct access to the system that's tied to the sheriff's department.
[36:24] So it's not necessarily like we're calling the CSOs all the calls get triage from the from sheriffs.
[36:30] That's correct.
[36:33] So that's why it's a pouring that we call the sheriff station and not like public safety.
[36:39] For any city services, you may call the city at any city hall public safety and they'll get delegated to the departments.
[36:49] But for any like LASD related items or for calls for service and call the station.
[36:58] And they'll tell you, oh, deputies, they won't handle that call the city, so you'll be calling the city.
[37:06] But the dispatch will be the one to tell me, you know what we're not going to take this contact.
[37:11] City of Rosemary, they'll go ahead and handle that call.
[37:13] Yes, I've heard that from citizens before.
[37:17] That's just not something that's shares for me handles and they'll come back down to the city.
[37:23] Do you find it more useful for us to make a phone call or to submit a report on the app or the website?
[37:28] On the app, it's more of a non-emergent because some people would report like
[37:37] Like a crime that is occurring now, and they'll put down the illegal activity, but that should be a temple station call for service, not on the app because there's a crime in progress.
[37:53] I have one question or regards to this staff report. I see that there are 15 vehicles recovered.
[37:58] I think that's pretty great that the vehicles were recovered.
[38:03] My question is, are these vehicles, I can see those, I guess, leave the city boundaries,
[38:10] or they're within the city of Rosemary, so the vehicles are recovered in the city or how
[38:14] that's the district.
[38:15] They only operate within the city of Rosemary.
[38:17] We don't go in the county area or other cities.
[38:21] The 15 vehicles, I don't break it down, I just break it down off of releasing it back to
[38:28] owner if it was stolen and it was recovered. They do proactive work by driving the streets
[38:34] identifying abandoned vehicles that are wrecked. They would red tag it if it's not expired
[38:43] over six months.
[38:47] They would store the vehicle if it's expired over six months and a lot
[38:53] of residents leave in operative vehicles on the street
[38:57] with the plan on operational,
[38:59] has to date more than six months.
[39:04] So, Chuck and the vehicle for 72 hours,
[39:07] residents may call or say if the parking control officer
[39:11] will let, will submit a request stating
[39:13] that this vehicle has been here
[39:16] two consecutive weeks for a street sweeping violation
[39:20] then we would redcheck the vehicle
[39:22] so that it's not all blight to the neighborhood.
[39:26] Maybe you can give an example of the recent activity that you and I were talking about
[39:31] about the resident calling you and saying it was the vehicle that was parked in front of
[39:38] their house for a week but and they turned out to be a stolen vehicle trying to think
[39:45] I'm trying to think this recently, right?
[39:47] Yeah, it was like, oh, yeah, yes, it was um, that's that's something your CSO's
[39:54] had there.
[39:55] Yes, yes.
[39:56] Yes, yes.
[39:57] A resident reached out to me via my city cell phone.
[40:01] So she stated that there was a vehicle that was parked in front of her house for a week.
[40:08] So I went out to the location, checked the license plate, it was stolen, it was been stolen
[40:13] for five months, based off of the information of the residents stating that the vehicle was
[40:21] been there for a week. I told the CSOs to ask the CSOs staff to go to the location when
[40:31] they're done with the call that they were currently on. And somehow the victim, solid car and
[40:39] at home and we contacted the victim and the CSO came out with Lieutenant Tories' special
[40:48] assignment deputy to contact the victim to release the vehicle from the system so it's
[40:53] not actively so that it doesn't get stopped for stolen vehicle.
[41:06] It's really great to hear. I heard that you said the resident called you on your cell
[41:11] but that also goes to mean that, you know, Wayne has really been involved in community for them to know you so well to call you on your cell phone and get these calls taking care of so appreciate getting that done timely.
[41:24] Any other questions?
[41:28] I think we've been waiting for so long for this program, so thank you for all teams involved in getting this executed.
[41:35] I think quicker than we thought, as well, and all the training and everything that has been put in to get this started and your teams here, so I really appreciate everyone showing up today and getting this for me.
[41:47] Please introduce my code enforcement team.
[41:49] Yes, of course.
[41:51] Thank you.
[41:52] I have three code enforcement officer, which is Janet Lee.
[41:55] Evelyn Martinez, Eric Lowe, Evelyn and Eric, they've been with the city for five years,
[42:03] Janet Lee, have been with the city for 16 or 18 years and Abel has been with the city for over 25 years,
[42:15] Abel's Abel and Steve, they're the senior code enforcement officers and Eric Evelyn Janet,
[42:21] they are the code enforcement officers and Newman. He's been with the city over a year.
[42:30] Usually part time, like Newman, he has full time job, but he loves doing the CSO, so that's why he does this.
[42:41] Well, we're appreciative, very appreciative.
[42:44] Yes, thank you so much.
[42:47] It's great. Thank you for bringing the team here and meeting everyone.
[42:50] but this is, I think, a long time coming,
[42:53] so really, we're really glad to see this formation.
[43:02] Thank you so much.
[43:04] And we will receive and file the reports.
[43:07] Thank you.
[43:10] Item 3D, crime prevention and emergency preparedness activities.
[43:17] I'm very pleased to see your item.
[43:23] Good evening, Major, Madam Chair and commissioners.
[43:28] is there any questions regarding the reports that is in your packet for crime prevention emergency
[43:35] preparedness activities? I don't have any questions about it but my favorite page is actually
[43:40] page 69 where it says that nobody's sprung a leak there's no first date rendered.
[43:48] On on the night of the storm? Well, the after action report after action report.
[43:58] I have an
[44:00] Also, is there any questions regarding the after action report regarding the wind storm of 2025?
[44:13] Well, let's receive and file the first one since like if once done with that one.
[44:17] The crime prevention and emergency preparedness activities will receive and file and moving on to item 3e wind storm 2025 after action reports.
[44:33] And I just want to remind all the commissioners that the attachments aren't included in this.
[44:37] Okay, so I want to make sure everyone, this is a work that would have been a large document.
[44:45] I read through it and it just again appreciate all the city staff that worked.
[44:52] It was more than 12 plus hours and coming back to back, so that's something that we learned scheduling to do a little better.
[45:00] The emergency is happening, right? And that's what had happened. And it looks like a lot of the management staff had to work a lot extra than to the paid it as well. So I think there's some things that we can maybe I don't know what would the conclusion be, but deviate up a little bit.
[45:18] Yeah, so we decided to kind of split up the team, the executive team, to have a
[45:24] shift A and shift B. But that's what our intention was to, from day one. But because of
[45:29] the windstorm happened so quickly, we don't know the dynamic of, you know, how that the
[45:34] damages would be. So we called everybody back. And as the night went on, we realized that
[45:41] there were a lot of down trees. And they, they, we need a lot of support. So we kept executive
[45:44] team there. We could have sent them home. But being the win was so, you know, blowing so, so
[45:50] fiercely, we didn't want them to be on the way home and get caught in the win storming to get
[45:55] hurt. So we'll say for them to be what does in the ELC and also to exist as in, but the response.
[46:03] That's a good call.
[46:06] But yes, we were very, very tired.
[46:09] Well, I'm sorry, I like the fact that I just love the report. Actually, it's so well written.
[46:16] Talk about what you did to prepare for it. Yeah, I'll set up the cars.
[46:21] Yeah, I'll set up the chainsaws, checking the, you know, checking the equipment.
[46:25] Is it good to go because we might need to go at any time.
[46:29] And the after action report was saying, hey, this is what we learned.
[46:32] We need to do this more. We need to have a couple of spare chains hanging around.
[46:36] middle things and it could have been a lot worse and next time it might be but if we're prepared,
[46:46] we won't notice it so much.
[46:49] Thank you. Yeah, this after action report is so requirement
[46:53] within 90 days we have to submit the to the county and to the state. So we are within our
[46:59] well before our deadline date.
[47:04] I, you know, honestly, there's, there's a, thank you for acknowledging that because
[47:09] it's not just about the, the time or duration when people saw the wind storm.
[47:18] You know, there was quite a bit of coordination before making sure everything
[47:22] we're prepared for it and there's quite a bit of work after the event and we've learned quite
[47:30] a bit, Mandy sent a great job making sure that everybody knew their part was there pretty much
[47:39] all day and the next day to ensure everything was running efficiently and one thing that I don't
[47:47] think Mandy, or I didn't hear her mention, is that the cost recovery. So after the event,
[47:54] there was quite a bit of time that Mandy spent to make sure that the city recovered the cost
[48:02] that we expanded for this event. And so I see emails going back forth all the time with Mandy
[48:12] in Cowell, yes, and the federal government about all the documentation and all the forms and
[48:20] everything that we have to submit just so that we get our cost recovery because it's quite
[48:25] a bit of documentation and back up then needs to be submitted.
[48:30] So, you know, not only did Mandi's that a great job making sure everything was coordinated and
[48:35] everything went efficiently and smoothly, but Mandi made sure that we've got our money, right?
[48:41] How much money do we get?
[48:42] Not yet, so today I went to our first applicant
[48:45] briefing for the wind storm and it was
[48:50] conducted by the state and the federal representative.
[48:53] And so they kind of give us the rundown of what can be
[48:56] considered FEMA recovery cause and what cannot be.
[49:00] So again, like Ben mentioned, documentation is the key
[49:03] to reimbursement.
[49:05] So we're asking a little bit over under $5 million
[49:10] because a lot of our expenses were forced labor accounts.
[49:14] So that's where the documentation would need to make sure it's documented correctly.
[49:21] But as you could tell, we should also get debris removal expenses back,
[49:27] and in protective measures. So we're asking a little bit under half a million.
[49:30] But for the ring storm of 2024, you remember that one?
[49:34] We completed that one, but we submitted all the proper paperwork
[49:38] And right now, it's in the hands of the reviewers, so we don't know how much our reimbursement would be, but as soon as I know about that one, I will be sharing with you guys.
[49:46] But this wind storm went, it's in the process of submitting proper paperwork.
[49:51] So they said, we probably won't get any money back for 2025, I bought a year from now.
[50:01] But I'll keep you guys all updated.
[50:06] Any other questions?
[50:08] Thank you.
[50:08] Thank you.
[50:08] Thank you for the update.
[50:10] And again, thank you for all the hard work during that kind of period of time.
[50:13] guys are welcome, thank you.
[50:21] All right, I don't three F,
[50:24] LA as the crime statistics.
[50:31] We do need a public safety commission.
[50:33] We have the crime statistics.
[50:44] As you can see,
[50:46] a little change.
[50:48] The grant of the autos seem to be increasing recently.
[50:51] And that's just us across, you know,
[50:53] we noticed to another surrounding cities.
[50:55] Don't we see trends of what exact vehicles,
[50:58] our recovery quite a bit.
[51:01] And out of those, grant the vehicles of us, 90 percent, a little part of our 90 percent of the vehicles that are stolen are recovered.
[51:07] Fortune the trend is they use those in other crimes.
[51:11] So that's an unfortunate.
[51:12] But however, the city invests in technology, we're able to utilize to apprehend and try to track down,
[51:19] or even if it goes to pursuit related to grant the vehicle as you're aware.
[51:27] That's a big increase in that, our robberies, we notice increasing, however, the majority of robberies and rosemines have been related to the Macy's.
[51:38] Macy's has incorporated a loss prevention, where they are able to go hands on to retrieve their property or detain in person.
[51:46] If a person resists during that detention, so it could be a simple theft of a 10-dollar item, however, if they resist the loss prevention agent affecting the arrest,
[51:56] That turns it what's called the case law that SD's robbery and it's treated the stat gets a robbery, so all those robberies are, you know, obviously they detain that they have handcuffs.
[52:08] So the solverate with robberies at Macy's is quite high, but we notice the statistics are showing up higher, however, the solverate is pretty high with relates to robberies.
[52:18] In addition to other type of robbers want throughout the city, you know, like I said,
[52:23] utilizing that technology are somewhere it's pretty high on robberies because it is a
[52:28] person to person type of later crime. So the identification of either a witness or a vehicle
[52:34] associated with that has led to a significant arrest rates to all robberies. Now we currently use the
[52:44] the extra
[52:48] not real registration of the vehicle surveillance along the street that like a
[52:54] flock system? Yes, so that's really not the company called flock system and then city's
[53:01] safely invest heavily and I was one of the first cities in the area to invest in that and
[53:06] what were the city management discussing potentially with in budget increasing? That's paying off?
[53:12] Oh, tremendously. I mean just a quick story with flock, you know like I said, you know, we're able
[53:17] self crime with relates to robbery. I'll give you an example last week. We have a crime that occurred at
[53:23] local area. Has surveillance video of the vehicle, however, the person was able to identify the
[53:29] plate or any identified markers. Well, just the vehicle description, that's all we have, just a blue
[53:37] call, a blue BMW, leaving the location, wherever you like, flock to see how many blue BMWs were in
[53:42] area, notice a distinct mark on the vehicle, notice the plate on the vehicle, inch of that
[53:49] license plate in the system, the next day Orange County detains the vehicle and the suspect.
[53:55] So we sent a deputy from Rosemeat, all the way to Orange County, to pick up that suspect
[53:58] in the vehicle had stolen property that was stolen during the robbery the day before. 99% that
[54:06] crime would not have been solved if it wasn't for flock.
[54:10] So like I said, I think that the field for the city to invest.
[54:13] And hopefully we can increase that number of cameras, you know,
[54:19] maybe by that thing we have 25, we're trying to, even if we've
[54:22] increased by 15 to plug in some of the gaps within the city that makes us
[54:27] right now.
[54:29] At my own curiosity, the person that perpetrated the crime, where they
[54:35] from here and visiting Orange County, or they from Orange County, came
[54:38] who had to do the crime then went back home?
[54:41] No, they don't live actually in neither area.
[54:46] So that's what typically occurs.
[54:48] And that multiple stories like that, multiple stories
[54:50] of crimes not being sold.
[54:53] It wouldn't probably not have been sold
[54:54] how have it not been for the flawed technology.
[54:57] So very, very, very, very helpful.
[55:03] You see, we're training up a little bit,
[55:04] but like I mentioned, you know,
[55:06] relates to a lot of it property-type related crimes
[55:09] that are being more reported.
[55:11] So we grateful for that in the sense of being able to try to catch these individuals, but obviously
[55:16] getting a little more data.
[55:18] Here are some relates to thefts, like I mentioned in the past also, we're continuing
[55:25] our monthly operations and our kind of transition to the next presentation with
[55:31] the relates to theft, but obviously that they're increasing the
[55:42] next.
[55:44] Which one is the next one?
[55:47] Okay.
[55:48] And the next one, are you questions related to this, sir?
[55:52] We will receive a file.
[55:53] I don't think we should.
[55:54] Yeah.
[55:55] And then the next transition into the SEO reports.
[55:58] As you might have noticed,
[56:00] I hadn't met with the previous assistant city manager.
[56:05] I don't think I understand.
[56:08] The previous assistant city manager,
[56:11] Richard.
[56:12] Oh, sorry.
[56:14] Long day.
[56:14] We've got a lot of little things in the last night, so I came in and then, so the previous
[56:18] system manager, we're kind of looking at other cities that, but they do their reports.
[56:22] We kind of, of, another city at a very condensed, you know, report there.
[56:27] We've got to actually view a few, we're looking at it.
[56:30] And we're trying to keep it more concise, just data, unfortunately, in a sense, in my, you
[56:37] know, we were able to pros and cons to add stuff, take stuff away.
[56:41] One of the suggestions he suggested was take away the photos, however, a comment was made
[56:49] at last city council meeting where the council member dang and he liked the photos.
[56:52] So with consulting with the city manager, we're going to bring back the photos.
[56:57] But try to keep the report more concise, and we did include a category homelessness, just
[57:03] to showcase, and what kind of transition it's one of our goals for this year.
[57:07] Just to showcase, we're not criminalizing homelessness, but showcasing how many homelessness
[57:10] be contact and how many crimes related to homelessness that we're dealing with as well.
[57:16] So we didn't include that and like you mentioned, as I mentioned, going forward though,
[57:21] we are going to include pictures of, and maybe towards the end just a couple of candid shots
[57:26] of doing either operations or the team or community events, what not, just to kind of like
[57:34] like I said, put a face to come some of the data that you're seeing.
[57:38] I like to make a comment. I actually love the pictures. I'm a visual learner and so I like to see what you guys are doing.
[57:48] You know, this can get very, you know, it's just, it's just, yeah, very, very dry. So I think other residents would appreciate the pictures.
[57:58] Oh, it's a lot.
[57:58] Consensus is pictures are coming back.
[58:00] Yeah.
[58:03] And on the previous reports, I know there was a section with the motor officer.
[58:11] Do we plan on putting that in the report?
[58:14] I believe we have with undercitation, but you want just the motor officer.
[58:18] Because I know before that, like you would write down, like a motor officer went to Savannah,
[58:22] four citations on a walnut, grove, and rush, four citations, or three citations,
[58:27] or what or or two warnings because you know like when I'm reading it every week I'm like
[58:33] all right cool but you know he went to this school and I'm sure like there's another rotation
[58:36] to go to that.
[58:38] I think we could include the motor. I think we just condensed it by like a thousand to direction
[58:44] but if you want like I said a separate section for him in our report yes definitely we can include that.
[58:49] Just for me I found that helpful because I know there's you know multiple people in the essay
[58:54] team,
[58:57] so. I saw this month we had human trafficking a few of those incidents throughout the month.
[59:06] Oh, yes, we've been working with a lot of incidents too. As kind of we're discussing that
[59:12] ghost of the app, we're relates to, you know, concerns citizens, it's residents really reaching out
[59:18] and, you know, we're sometimes, you know, not privly to this certain information of
[59:23] We don't live on the streets, so we don't know, there's a lot of cars or a little cars with the traffic.
[59:27] So a lot of this information has been coming with requests from the citizens through the app or through the portal at the city office.
[59:35] So we do have a, you know, we've been doing some human trafficking operations with our major.
[59:41] It's under major crimes, real than the detectives.
[59:43] But yes, we have been doing a few operations with them.
[59:46] Okay, that's great.
[59:49] And then I also have one more question.
[59:53] I think, kind of not just rhythmic, but other cities.
[59:56] What I've noticed now is, how do I say it?
[1:00:00] This usually like in the intersections, there's people holding signs up that may not be, you know, they're asking for money or maybe for funeral or whatever it is. And it's not very legitimate sometimes it's that they're just, is that they have a crime that they're doing there. I don't know.
[1:00:20] Yeah, it's relates, and I know exactly what you're mentioned, because the previous
[1:00:25] city I worked for, we had a very high increase, we don't see that too much in our jurisdiction,
[1:00:31] but it is a code enforcement related, a minicity municipal code, that you cannot, you know,
[1:00:37] panor for money and use a sign. So if we do see those type of calls, either it goes through
[1:00:43] enforcement are, so we could assist them in issuing a citation, our kind of, you know,
[1:00:49] ensuring, ensuring enforcement to prevent that from happening in the future, but we don't,
[1:00:54] we don't have too much of those issues in Rosemeet per se.
[1:00:59] I've seen them recently at Walmart, and the same individuals would go for Walmart to then target.
[1:01:06] And I think on a few instances that I've seen them within the last three weeks,
[1:01:10] It's been a female, maybe with a child or children.
[1:01:13] I don't know if the laws are different when there is minors.
[1:01:17] And they're parent, you know, panhandling or asking for donations.
[1:01:22] You know, I think sometimes I see the signs change.
[1:01:25] You know, today's the funeral one tomorrow is something else.
[1:01:28] So it's, you know, if you want that, I don't mind.
[1:01:32] Well, it's still open to the public.
[1:01:34] So, but you're right, though, it is, but it's still the same concept
[1:01:38] of like selling, I fruit outside of Target, you know,
[1:01:42] Kona Forceman could still enforce laws that are, if the
[1:01:45] buildings open to the public as it relates to, because they're still
[1:01:48] coming in a crime. But it is, it can be tricky on private property.
[1:01:54] The ones I was referring to like the intersections, yes.
[1:01:57] That's public property and I know what you're mentioned like outside of
[1:01:59] freeway or a major intersection.
[1:02:03] So as you mentioned to Walmart, that could be tricky because then
[1:02:06] we'd have to have them either issue a trespass warning or on their behalf. So then we could force that type of loss.
[1:02:15] Are you finding the letters of agency being used?
[1:02:19] Oh, that's a huge tool. I'm working with Mandy's team. We identified in recording letters
[1:02:24] when it's their butt to expire. We send letters to re-up their warnings. I just give this legal
[1:02:30] standing to detain and kind of, you know, any type of enforcement action that
[1:02:35] subsequent happens, at least we have the legal standing to initiate that good attention.
[1:02:42] I think that brings up a good question as just as far as the letter of agency goes,
[1:02:48] yes, what percentage of businesses or businesses that would have that filled out
[1:02:55] maybe outreach for the remainder, because they may not even know about it yet.
[1:02:59] We're working maybe with the Chamber of Commerce or I'm not sure how we would outreach or maybe when they apply for us permit a city permit or something perhaps include that so that they're aware because I don't think they're aware until something happens and then they realize the shares department can't do anything about it.
[1:03:18] They called enforcement actually place a big row in that, so when they go, you know, visit the businesses and then they will also bring that up to share what them that if they are experiencing some unhealthy people and that they will like to fill out the letter of agency, then that will be an extra tool for the share of department. So our code enforcement do pay a big row in that as well.
[1:03:42] is that application available online that I don't believe so I have to double check okay yeah
[1:03:49] but I know our office our admin assistant is the one that taken the lead on that and she
[1:03:56] ensures a month before it expires she'll be sending out an email and to reach out to those
[1:04:03] that's going to be inspiring within a month and then usually the response time for people
[1:04:08] be turning their renewal for the LAW is pretty pretty good percentage.
[1:04:17] Can I ask why there is an expiration date on that? Is there a certain reason?
[1:04:24] I'm just fortunate to detect it on that question. It's illegal standing out, just recurring
[1:04:28] different businesses, different ownership's mind. If you continue and you pass it down,
[1:04:33] that person might not want to press charges. So it's a case law that was established that we
[1:04:38] that same question, but the detective mentioned that it's just a law that in the law states
[1:04:43] every year has to be renewed on file with the local police department.
[1:04:46] I think right now it's every six months, six months.
[1:04:49] Very frequent as a business owner is probably something that slips their mind
[1:04:54] you know until something happens.
[1:04:56] Well that's why we're trying to work with Bandy one of the decisions we discussed.
[1:05:00] Seeing how other cities do it is we have a whole database, we have an expiration list
[1:05:04] And all of this is simple. We'll send them a letter of many's team. We'll send them the person
[1:05:10] a letter a month before, and then when they renew, we update the system and all right, and we also
[1:05:14] have an Excel spreadsheet that we utilize also to kind of know which businesses are participating
[1:05:19] and whatnot. Okay. So the deputies are able to see that? Yes. Okay. Great. Thank you.
[1:05:29] I have
[1:05:30] have any more questions for you? Chief, to worry.
[1:05:35] Can you provide information regarding, I'm going to say, I don't know if this, the facts,
[1:05:42] if there was a fatality on Walnut Grove between Furn and Garvey, where pedestrian was
[1:05:49] hit?
[1:05:50] Yes.
[1:05:51] It's a confirmed fatality.
[1:05:54] Can you just, I know it's probably still in our investigation, but can you just briefly
[1:05:57] Just disclose what happened. Yeah, no, I was working last night. We had a couple incidents that occur last night or one of them was a fatality and
[1:06:07] Believe
[1:06:09] Two years ago
[1:06:11] In 2020 the last change with relates to J walking. So J walking is no longer an enforceable crime
[1:06:16] So since then we have seen an increase in
[1:06:20] Vehicle versus pedestrians where people are crossing outside of a crosswalk
[1:06:24] a mark crosswalk, which has lights, protection, you know, some of the cities also have the on the ground.
[1:06:33] Poliminary investigation indicates this person was crossing outside of crosswalk.
[1:06:38] And it was no indication, it was in the hint of run and no indication of DUI or drugs or a factor.
[1:06:44] But Poliminary investigation indicates a pedestrian was crossing the streets
[1:06:50] And vehicle one vehicle yielded and then another vehicle not knowing that the vehicle was yielding for a pedestrian struck the other part there are the struck the pedestrian.
[1:07:01] I'm sorry was that a hidden run you said no no it was not a hidden run no so as I was driving.
[1:07:08] To here to city hall you know and I passed right there were this incident happened and you know that when if I'm going northbound on wall to grow just after for it it's very.
[1:07:18] a little bit on the left-hand side. Well, it's very dark. And so I can understand why, you know,
[1:07:26] if you're driving, you may not see somebody crossing. So just something to bring to the city's attention.
[1:07:35] I actually, the city currently has RFPL, it's called Request for Proposal for a Master Street Light Plan.
[1:07:48] And so the intent of that plan is to identify where the street lights are, where we need additional street lights.
[1:07:58] I don't remember when that RFP closing is typically about 30 days.
[1:08:02] So I'm guessing definitely within 30 days, we're going to get proposals to prepare that plan.
[1:08:10] I also want to add that the StreetLice 80% of the StreetLice in Rosemeat are not city owned.
[1:08:18] It's owned by Edison.
[1:08:23] So depending on what this survey, the result of the survey, then it's a little bit more complicated.
[1:08:31] because if we own all the street lights is simple, right?
[1:08:34] Hey, we're missing some street lights.
[1:08:36] We're gonna put them in here and there.
[1:08:39] But when we don't, when the city does not own,
[1:08:43] maturity to street lights will identify it.
[1:08:46] But then we have to try to figure out how to have those lights installed
[1:08:52] in areas that are not ours.
[1:08:56] So.
[1:08:56] And I do want to add, I believe it was last year.
[1:08:59] January 2024, where there was also another fatality, and that was on Walnut Grove, maybe
[1:09:07] about three quarters of a mile south of where the incident happened yesterday, and this
[1:09:13] isn't that occurred, I believe in January, February 2024, and I brought it to the attention
[1:09:18] of the commission, because it was maybe about three weeks after that fatality that my
[1:09:25] said and has been we're almost ran over at the intersection of land
[1:09:29] disfueling and walnut growth. And so, um, where the fatality occurred, you know, it
[1:09:37] is very low-lit, but there's also, um, excessive speeding. And we talked about that,
[1:09:42] the motor officer, you know, went and, um, the chief actually worked with Captain
[1:09:48] Mayson, they did a detail, and I think it was over like 14 citations and three
[1:09:52] rest that occurred when that detail did happen. And so, you know, I just do want to highlight that
[1:09:58] within within 14 months, within a one-mile stretch of roadway, there has been two fatalities.
[1:10:09] And so I really do want to highlight that. Could it be cause of, you know, it's been, you know,
[1:10:23] Well, it's not, yeah, technically, well, it's all changed, but I would definitely pay the other in the
[1:10:29] world.
[1:10:31] I know the other, I know the other scenario too.
[1:10:35] So both situations and the majority of situations, I just want to emphasize, have been people
[1:10:39] crossing outside of Mark Crosswalk.
[1:10:42] So just to re-appercise that not always the case, but there has been significant cases,
[1:10:48] not just temple stations.
[1:10:49] It's been across, you know, that's the way to see people taking the nightly walks, dressed in nice dark clothing, maybe like color tennis shoes and let you know that they're not open.
[1:11:02] So I was just encouraged to use a crosswalk and flashlight and, you know, obviously reflective something or a yield to a tent, you know, you'd be able to try to yield to find a light, be the light.
[1:11:20] One more, I know yesterday was a very busy evening, but the officer involved shooting and rose me.
[1:11:26] I'm sure it's still under investigation.
[1:11:29] I don't know any details, but I would hope that when the investigation is completed,
[1:11:35] that there would at least be some transparency as far as what the public needs to know as far as what happened.
[1:11:42] I know, you know, we don't understand what it's like to be on the other side.
[1:11:48] And so I think it's important for the public to know, because, you know, social medias.
[1:11:55] The situations can get, you know, out there and sometimes there's misinformation.
[1:12:02] And so just if there's like transparency, that way the public knows, like,
[1:12:06] Yes, definitely.
[1:12:07] The facts.
[1:12:08] I read the city manager, and I was there all day, all night, last night, till six of the morning, we started, but, you know, obviously, it's been investigated by homicide bureau.
[1:12:17] But we do do as an apartment, what's referred to as critical incidents, and I was asking myops
[1:12:22] to the tenant today. I
[1:12:23] go, hey, how, you know, this type of incident has an occurred in Temple's jurisdiction over
[1:12:29] three plus years, so the new laws have come out where transparency and, you know, relate to
[1:12:35] body cams that, you know, we, we, we as an apartment, we've put together what's called a
[1:12:40] critical incident, reviews on this type of situation, and once that's available, I told
[1:12:45] City Manager, I'll share with City Manager, I can share with you the, but they're all public
[1:12:50] records.
[1:12:50] Once that they do these videos, type videos, and they kind of dissect it and break it down,
[1:12:55] and narrate it and kind of give the public an opportunity to dispute some of these maybe rumors
[1:13:01] that are being spread, and unfortunately I was sharing, you know, I do, I know the fact
[1:13:05] I was there, I've seen what happened, and I do see social media posts posting the contrary,
[1:13:10] But unfortunately, my investigations, the homicides we have to kind of remain refrain from correcting those.
[1:13:17] But I can induce courage, you know, obviously, just wait till the investigation.
[1:13:22] Even that may be complete, even as once they do at least a critical incident to kind of appease the public to show what actually transpire.
[1:13:31] Correct, I can be at some point to have factual information out there, and just to be transparent with the public so they can dispel any rumors that are being posted on social media, you know, Temple Station and the SIO team had enough phenomenal job in maintaining the safety of Rosemary President, so it's really important to get that factual information out there to the public.
[1:14:00] Thank you.
[1:14:03] Are there any other questions or comments?
[1:14:07] All right.
[1:14:08] Thank you.
[1:14:08] We will receive and file.
[1:14:11] Item H.
[1:14:13] Update on Proposition 36 in public safety equals for 25.
[1:14:19] So, Prop. 36 also known as the homeless drug addiction at death reduction act.
[1:14:26] So, this prop was passed in by the voters, and it went to effects December 18th.
[1:14:34] So, from December 18th, this law was into effect.
[1:14:37] And prop 36 entails is two or more drug convictions with the prior.
[1:14:47] So, if you have two more drug convictions, a simple possession of drug paraphernal drug narcotics on you.
[1:14:54] Now what instead of being a misdemeanor is now considered a felony.
[1:15:00] And with that felony, that person has two paths to choose. They could choose a drug treatment to
[1:15:08] expunge the felony, so if they go complete a drug program, which is incursible, then that felony gets off the record,
[1:15:15] like it's never occurred.
[1:15:17] Or if that person, even if they admit, I want to take the path of drug treatment and does not complete the program,
[1:15:23] than the alternative is jail time, so it's an emphasis on drug treatment offenses, recognizing
[1:15:33] addiction, addiction, and requiring treatment, so it's not just trying to punish the individual's
[1:15:41] trying to encourage them to obtain treatment, opposed to punishment. So that's relates to drug
[1:15:47] offense is two or more priors. In addition, drug related for sales type crimes. If they're
[1:15:56] convicted, the judge now manages the individual that if they furnace drugs either fentanyl
[1:16:04] or narcotics in a later date and that drug is known to kill somebody or cause an overdose.
[1:16:12] That person can now be contributed to their death and be charged with hummus or murder.
[1:16:17] So, the judge is an emotion that person, so it's obviously encouraging them not to
[1:16:23] furnish these illicit drugs, so that's relates to, or one, is relates to drugs.
[1:16:29] And now, theft is also kind of this package deal of Prop 36.
[1:16:35] So it's two or more convictions of theft.
[1:16:39] The third conviction now is going to be treated as a felony.
[1:16:43] And when I relate to felonies, it could be a theft of a cup or any type of theft.
[1:16:50] It doesn't have the dollar amount.
[1:16:52] So any type of theft, if you have two more convictions, is now considered a felony.
[1:16:58] All these felonies under Prop 36,
[1:17:02] they are booked at Temple Station,
[1:17:04] or if it's a resident Temple Station's area.
[1:17:07] And what's called a Magistrate Review, which means in the past,
[1:17:11] they would just give a citation and get released.
[1:17:14] Now they have to actually go in front of a judge.
[1:17:17] So if they were to get arrested right now,
[1:17:19] right now, they would not go to court till Monday.
[1:17:23] So as a relates to a magistrate review.
[1:17:29] So just paying out some numbers,
[1:17:31] we did some research since this went into effect
[1:17:34] December 18th.
[1:17:36] There have been 18 petty theft with a prior convictions
[1:17:40] at Temple Station. Out of those 18 11 were from Rosemeat.
[1:17:48] There were 13,
[1:17:51] but it's referred
[1:17:51] to as 11395 that's the code, two or more drug-related convictions arrest from Temple
[1:17:57] Station, and out of those 13 five were from Rosemeat.
[1:18:02] One of those to highlight the theft
[1:18:04] is to kind of showcase what's the punishment behind it. So a person was convicted of two
[1:18:10] thefts, commits with that that a Starbucks is simple theft of cups. Nothing extravagant,
[1:18:16] nothing fancy, not the dollar amount wasn't over the threshold 90. But since they had two of
[1:18:21] our convictions, that person took a plea deal, 500 days in jail. So it's just to show the punishment
[1:18:26] now is being pretty substantial and to try to combat some of this rampant theft that's been
[1:18:33] arising. So we are continuing, I was mentioned in the city managers during our weekly meeting,
[1:18:38] that we are going to continue. We have, we did an operation last week at target with relates
[1:18:43] to fifth. We arrested four individuals, litter on the lower side for that. So we're
[1:18:48] kind of seeing a decline out of those. None had prior convictions to a more so they're
[1:18:55] all released with the citation. So we're starting to, you still have to have that conviction.
[1:19:00] So just keep in mind though, during the past four years of the previous district attorney,
[1:19:05] There is zero drug, there's almost, not zero, but there's almost zero drug convictions related to drugs because they're not, they're all D.A.R.E.J.X.
[1:19:14] So we're kind of still, give us time.
[1:19:16] We're explaining, we're still going to build up the momentum to get those, there's at least first two convictions.
[1:19:22] And then now we're going to continue.
[1:19:23] We're continuing our theft operations.
[1:19:25] We have two schedules, month one with major crimes, the one with our special assignment team ourselves.
[1:19:30] And we're going to continue zero tolerance relates to drug related arrest with our homeless population.
[1:19:38] As far as I can mention, the huge tool we have is that letter of agency that gives us a legal sign to detain.
[1:19:47] And if during this course of that arrest, if we find our college or drugs on these individuals, which is the case at times,
[1:19:55] then we can, you know, obviously affect that arrest.
[1:19:58] So we have our scene.
[1:19:59] We did a note, one arrest recently from Rosemeat,
[1:20:04] a deputy arrested individual for drug related offense.
[1:20:07] The individual made a comment to the deputy.
[1:20:09] He's just hurry up and give him my ticket.
[1:20:11] Because in the past, it was, you released,
[1:20:13] you give issue of citation in the field.
[1:20:15] That was had that person at two convictions.
[1:20:17] He got arrested on a Wednesday.
[1:20:21] And, so I got arrested on Thursday.
[1:20:23] And that Monday was a court date.
[1:20:25] So he didn't go court all the way until Tuesday, so just consider and then obviously has to
[1:20:29] go to court and then it's a mandated, whatever the, obviously, the judge's sides, but
[1:20:35] he gets released from there not from the station anymore.
[1:20:39] Any questions related to purpose?
[1:20:42] When does the clock start ticking on the two convictions?
[1:20:47] To just go back in history of the, in the convicted of petty crimes before does that count?
[1:20:53] or does it just for the law kicks in.
[1:20:56] You know, that's a quick question.
[1:20:57] Oh, no, it does go back to the drug
[1:21:00] with the death-regulated question.
[1:21:02] I believe it's five years.
[1:21:06] And the drug-related question,
[1:21:08] the drug-loader, I believe it also is five years.
[1:21:11] I don't, that's a quick question.
[1:21:12] I don't have that one.
[1:21:15] So they have a history of being a petty criminal
[1:21:18] is really going to bite him out of the tookist now.
[1:21:22] Correct.
[1:21:22] I have not to be a reason to run.
[1:21:25] You could have been arrested five years ago for a card theft or a theft of anything, and then now it's a conviction even those five years ago, if you got arrested today, that those past convictions definitely kept.
[1:21:48] I guess my question is in regards to, say, for example, the thefts and that cup that they took, right?
[1:21:56] So the business is going to call the department to report this.
[1:22:03] But usually, by the time they come around, they probably have already left with the cup, perhaps?
[1:22:10] Yes, what can we do for that because, you know, that's then stuff like that happens quite quickly.
[1:22:17] But this, like say for example, it truly is a dollar cup or something like that.
[1:22:22] Yeah, that's a great question.
[1:22:23] And that's why the thefts to be complete ons of you.
[1:22:26] We have been encouraging businesses to report.
[1:22:30] This was at a Starbucks that person would not have normally called related to cup thefts.
[1:22:34] They said it happens quite frequently.
[1:22:36] We have been encouraging businesses to report the most minor even if it's just a cut, because
[1:22:42] this person, that's what exactly happened.
[1:22:45] They took the cut, they left the location.
[1:22:48] When the deputies arrived on scene, they get the information, they reviewed their footage,
[1:22:54] they knew who the person was, because it was a frequent, this theftives have been occurring.
[1:22:59] They were able to run the individual, or utilize the department resources to see the
[1:23:04] can realize that theft now becomes a felony. So they wrote the report and
[1:23:11] deputies were driving around the area looking for this person because now you
[1:23:13] have a felony suspect and they found him hiding behind, you know, a couple blocks
[1:23:17] away and affected a rest based up a cup. So that's why I mentioned the captain.
[1:23:23] Our theft related crimes might be increasing. Not because we have more theft,
[1:23:27] but people reported it more because it might be a simple death that that person
[1:23:33] steals, we didn't catch them, but if we were able to use facial recognition now, and identify
[1:23:38] this individual, we could write our report now, and that little simple death of a cup now
[1:23:42] that'll get a felony warrant. So if we didn't catch them that day, that would have been in
[1:23:47] the system as a felony warrant for the theft and it gave Debbie's a tool to now rest of the
[1:23:52] middle-rated date. So that we were just, at the time, lucky that we caught around the corner,
[1:23:56] Yeah, but having that knowledge, like, and that they were like, oh, that the Starbucks was very impressed that the person got 500 days.
[1:24:05] Yeah.
[1:24:05] And we're kind of encouraging, like I said, you know, a simple theft of a cup now could equal Jill time.
[1:24:11] Right.
[1:24:12] Yeah.
[1:24:12] That's a great.
[1:24:14] Sophie still three Starbucks drinks on three separate occasions.
[1:24:21] That can have to be convictions.
[1:24:23] Could it be convicted twice of the first two, and then the third one, if you pick a victim twice, yes, we'll be considered a balance as well.
[1:24:34] So there's no dollar amount anymore, like more than 954 felony.
[1:24:38] That still exists.
[1:24:39] So that still exists.
[1:24:40] So that's one time.
[1:24:42] So if you commit theft over a 951 individual, that's becomes grand theft.
[1:24:47] These are still petty thefts with priors that equate to a felony.
[1:24:51] So if you, in theory, still get convicted, still get convicted, still get convicted in a third
[1:24:56] time, even though they're only a dollar, the dollar amount doesn't play a factor.
[1:25:00] And then every subsequent time you had two priors is always going to be treated as a
[1:25:04] felony.
[1:25:04] And then the punishment is going to continue to increase over time.
[1:25:11] Show.
[1:25:11] Just that.
[1:25:11] Show.
[1:25:12] Pattern.
[1:25:15] And you additional questions related to property six, but great questions.
[1:25:19] I'm clarifies it for me.
[1:25:21] No, I mean, that's great. We just try to try to get those cups.
[1:25:26] No, definitely exciting. You know, coming back, especially with the New District
[1:25:30] attorney, will he prosecute drug related offenses, you know, theft related offenses. And
[1:25:35] hopefully, you know, we'll start seeing a reduction of thefts over time with relates to, you
[1:25:41] know, obviously, a family is a lot harsher or punishment than a misdemeanor. So that's great
[1:25:45] for us a little more to be. Kevin's also, do we talk about the backpack with the,
[1:25:49] Yeah, we did. Yeah, the tracking device. Yeah. Okay, so I just wanted to make a note that in addition to the shares department responding to thefts that have been with businesses or own private property.
[1:26:08] Kevin and his team are, you know, they have that backpack program. So they are proactively in this decision just to respond to calls.
[1:26:18] They're proactively
[1:26:23] running an operation to catch feafs.
[1:26:31] They're doing it on the other side as well.
[1:26:33] It's probably pro-opted, yes, and commenting that's good as well.
[1:26:39] I don't think we will mind our numbers going up if we get these all convicted.
[1:26:48] How many are just curious, Kevin?
[1:26:50] If you don't mind me asking so, I mean,
[1:26:52] the success stories did you have with the backpack?
[1:26:57] Well, the first one was part.
[1:26:58] I think we're out to like, I think, six or so far.
[1:27:03] And we do it in conjunction with our operation.
[1:27:06] We have been with the first one I mentioned was probably
[1:27:10] the most successful in that sense of even though
[1:27:12] it was just a theft of the backpack.
[1:27:14] It was what led what transpired after the traffic
[1:27:19] stopped, you know, the theft of a backpack, which is obviously the value of the
[1:27:23] backpack so we're certain amount. In addition to that, we conducted a
[1:27:27] chopper stop and the person had a load of fire on them, which was a ghost gun.
[1:27:31] I think we saw that they, you know, what actually made them more substantial is
[1:27:34] you have the news crews following us that day. So it kind of led to you in more
[1:27:39] of a success. But we are continuing, we're trying to come with different ways too.
[1:27:42] We did a success sort of as well as a resident was getting theft from the front
[1:27:48] porch, there's porch parts. So, Jeffy's, what's his
[1:27:52] residence? In plainclothes, you abuse his package, which was
[1:27:57] part parts, put the device in the package and sealed it up and
[1:28:00] left it there. And then two days later, got in a bicycle, stole the
[1:28:04] package and we had to make an arrest space on that. So, we're
[1:28:07] also not such as the the fish from cars. We're trying to do the
[1:28:09] pay pack of yours. We're thinking about me in a bike. So, we're
[1:28:12] continue our different types of operations with the package.
[1:28:18] I was
[1:28:20] comment and idea is there a way to like have like a social media account where you post these
[1:28:26] success stories and what the SAO team has done that way the residents are like oh my gosh
[1:28:32] look at how successful they are and look at what they're doing I mean we have what I kind of
[1:28:37] a little tricky to be honest because we have one that's run through our temple sheriff station
[1:28:42] so that times will broadcast everything has to have one logo we can't really have a city related
[1:28:49] relates to, and then they have to be certified, especially from our end.
[1:28:53] I mean, the city, you know, maybe we could work in conjunction with them, but from our end,
[1:28:58] it has to be one account for one station and it has to be managed.
[1:29:03] We have a PIO team that does those type of, but we have showcase some of our operations on that
[1:29:10] account, or the LST account is the one that oversees the whole service department.
[1:29:15] They have followed, you know, did a couple of stories as well.
[1:29:20] We can probably pick you back and tag on and on LAC.
[1:29:27] So, bring me.
[1:29:30] Yeah, when they, when they put it up, we can do it together.
[1:29:33] To get the word.
[1:29:34] The only thing we would certainly have, of course, is if some of these activities are still pending cases.
[1:29:41] No, that's why we're, that's why we don't have a protocol.
[1:29:46] I was hearing a, speak, speak you personally from the audience, but you're discussing the area
[1:29:52] you're watching me.
[1:29:52] That's maybe a good idea to discuss it to you at the, at the, you know, the same concepts
[1:29:56] on the area you're watching, beatings our successors as well too.
[1:30:01] Which is coming up March 13th, 6 p.m. Work dollars.
[1:30:10] All right, great, great. Thank you so much. We love to update there. Any other questions?
[1:30:17] I just wanted to add chair. I will, um, I don't know if you, there's anything you want to mention about the public safety goals where we met with Captain Mesa.
[1:30:25] Yeah, so the second part of this is that the chief and the captain and I meet at the beginning of the year and we established goals for the upcoming year and we did that in January.
[1:30:42] This particular year, we talked about the three things that the city would like LASD to concentrate on for the year.
[1:30:54] And then the second question was, it dawned on me, like to ask Kevin and the captain.
[1:31:04] What are you seeing out there? What, what do you, or the sheriff's department would like to accomplish this year?
[1:31:11] So we came up with six schools basically, three on my site and three on LASD site.
[1:31:19] And are listed in your report, let me read that real quick.
[1:31:25] And so it's just, it's just, it's just, the goals are, are I mentioned in the report?
[1:31:33] But it's on my phone.
[1:31:35] Yeah, it's just that.
[1:31:36] Everything's on my phone now.
[1:31:39] Let me unlock it.
[1:31:40] Yeah, so on the city's part, the three items that LASD would like the city would like LASD to focus on is the homelessness that is continued.
[1:31:53] It is a continued issue within the city for LASD to help with the city to reduce the homelessness issue.
[1:32:02] Number two is the response time to reduce the response time as well.
[1:32:06] And number three is to provide more visibility in the city as we believe that that would be a deterrent for criminal activity.
[1:32:16] On LASD side, they are noticing that graffiti has become an issue in the city and we've had a long discussion with the last council meeting on the graffiti issue.
[1:32:26] And I can talk about that a little bit.
[1:32:30] And then the other two are vehicle break-ins and retail thefts.
[1:32:35] So those three are service department goals for this year.
[1:32:46] Great question.
[1:32:46] I think those are all things that we've discussed as well.
[1:32:49] I don't think we talked too much about regarding graffiti in this commission meeting,
[1:32:56] but I'm not sure if anybody else in the comments or questions.
[1:33:00] I think last commission meeting we talked about the graffiti and I think there's going to be
[1:33:06] like a detail and working with public works.
[1:33:10] Yes.
[1:33:10] Oh yeah.
[1:33:11] Public with that detail.
[1:33:12] And I, in an area of concern for me there, I always see is a Delmar and Emerson and as of
[1:33:19] lately, I haven't seen any.
[1:33:21] So I mean, it doesn't mean that it happened, it just probably means that public just works
[1:33:25] well already out there and they work pretty quickly public.
[1:33:29] Right.
[1:33:29] And so, about two, three years ago,
[1:33:36] we've had several council meetings on the top of graffiti.
[1:33:39] And maybe about two, three years ago, the council authorized a purchase of a graffiti truck,
[1:33:47] as well as the addition of one staff member to concentrate specifically on graffiti.
[1:33:53] And prior to that, the city moved graffiti on public property,
[1:33:58] public right away, which is street sidewalks, manposed and whatnot.
[1:34:06] The city also removed, but city did not remove graffiti on private property, because we really don't have consent to go on private property.
[1:34:15] What the exception, if the graffiti is visible from public right away, and it either has gang monocards, or if it has profanity,
[1:34:25] So that's a public nuisance, so city would take care of that.
[1:34:30] But the council wanted the city to be more proactive on graffiti removal and authorized
[1:34:36] additional staff and the purchase of a graffiti truck and direct the staff to also remove
[1:34:42] graffiti on private property when it's visible from the public right away.
[1:34:48] So every sense and with the directive of removing the graffiti within 24 hours.
[1:34:53] So with that directive, the public or staff has worked very, very, very hard to remove graffiti within the mandated 24 hours.
[1:35:04] And I want to say with very few exceptions, we've been very, very successful.
[1:35:10] We even have graffiti removed on Saturday and Sunday as well.
[1:35:14] So it's not like you see a graffiti on Friday and it doesn't get removed until Monday or Tuesday.
[1:35:19] So it's a seven day operation.
[1:35:21] So I think it's been going very effectively public works personnel have two routes that they're
[1:35:27] driving throughout the day. In addition to when we receive graffiti complaints that are not
[1:35:33] within the route then obviously don't go ahead and take care of it. I want Kevin to talk about the
[1:35:38] graffiti tracker really quick and as well as the presentation that was done at the last council meeting
[1:35:45] with keep mapping now with the graffiti tracker, because now we have the ability to identify the
[1:35:52] hotspots where the graffiti is happening and we can do that on a historical level and it's
[1:35:59] really concentrated on that Garby Delmar area, the west side of the city. So staff is placing
[1:36:08] to live in significant resources within that quarter just because now we know where it's getting
[1:36:14] hit the most. So we're out there. So I'm going to ask Kevin to talk with that really quick,
[1:36:21] but I also want to mention that Kevin's been Kevin and his deputies have been very
[1:36:24] helpful because when when our public board skies are out there, we're moving to graffiti.
[1:36:30] There have been occasions where our staff members have been confronted by the tigers and it
[1:36:37] have to be. There were a couple of times when it was pretty, pretty confrontational.
[1:36:47] Yeah, as Ben mentioned, we're trying to work, obviously, with, now we have access to the graffiti
[1:36:51] tracker. We're working with the public works to kind of, when they clean up, working
[1:36:56] conjunction with them, because basically when they clean up, not almost like a clean slate.
[1:37:01] So now we're trying to, you know, then we'll do some more enforcement as well as that goes.
[1:37:04] we do see the heat maps has been huge to kind of see like somewhere here crime map you see
[1:37:08] where the crime trends are going and right now it is like the 7700 blocker garbage that general vicinity
[1:37:15] and you know we're trying to encourage also in addition to you know we had a couple of
[1:37:21] instances where residents are calling in and you know obviously affecting a rest and what we see as well too
[1:37:27] is now even though they're juveniles now they're still being new just returning they're being
[1:37:33] prosecuted as well also. So that's been huge.
[1:37:36] That is work with the city to a different avenues as well as maybe going after them
[1:37:41] punitively or their parents.
[1:37:44] But we have been in the process of well as doing some graffiti operations.
[1:37:49] Trying to identify so we have a deputy assigned on the team.
[1:37:52] His collateral is when the person tags are used to use like a moniker.
[1:37:57] So as I identify, we're trying to put pinpoint,
[1:38:03] you know,
[1:38:03] trying to identify that. So we see the tagging we know, okay, who's the person where the person
[1:38:08] lives at or identify, you know, maybe you use surveillance tape to kind of like pinpoint,
[1:38:13] okay, this was this person and then go from there. So we're trying to, you like, like I said,
[1:38:18] with the city's tools and our tools, we're trying to, that's one of the main goals is combatting
[1:38:23] graffiti across the, you know, the board. Any questions? Yeah, and I think on our part,
[1:38:31] with a prior DA, there was no emphasis on really doing anything about taggers, they weren't
[1:38:40] getting prosecuted, but as Kevin and I talked, the situation is different, so we're putting
[1:38:49] emphasis on graffiti and taggers now because I think the enforcement on at least on the
[1:38:56] the DSI is going to be a lot greater than what existed before.
[1:39:02] So now we have a little bit more teeth.
[1:39:06] So that's why this is a goal for this year,
[1:39:12] because graffiti in the city is not a great thing.
[1:39:15] It's just such a bad presence, and a message to our community.
[1:39:22] All
[1:39:28] right, did you have any other questions or comments permission?
[1:39:33] Thank you so much.
[1:39:36] We will receive and file.
[1:39:37] Thank you.
[1:39:39] I am matters from the Commission.
[1:39:41] Commission or comments.
[1:39:43] Any comments?
[1:39:47] Absolutely.
[1:39:51] All right.
[1:39:52] Now the comments and I believe we will adjourn the meeting.
[1:39:57] The next public safety commission meeting takes place on March 27.
[1:40:01] 7 o'clock here at the council chamber and the meeting is adjourned 841 PM. Thank you.