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Good evening, tonight's invocation be given by Rabbi Mendel Marisol of Trabad of Round Rock. Rabbi, come on up. Thank you for being here. Thank you. What an honor. Six o'clock in the afternoon or late afternoons are already dark. These people are sitting together to make the residents of Round Rock a better life. So thank you. Sovereign of the universe, God in heaven, who grants us the privilege to gather and serve our community. May this moment be one of favor in your

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side. Hashem, you, we ask you to bless this meeting with your divine wisdom and guidance.

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As we deliberate together, may we be uplifted by the teachings of our Holy Torah. Let us

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remember the words of our Rebbe who taught that the true purpose of life is to bring God's

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light into the world through our actions, words, and thoughts. May our work today be eliminated

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by the light, by this light, inspiring us to serve both the individual and the community

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with love, respect, and integrity. Grant us strength and wisdom like that of our forefathers.

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who with deep faith overcame challenges and built the world rooted in holiness and kindness.

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May we too pursue justice and peace with courage, dedication, and unwavering commitment.

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May our actions reflect the universal values of Shabbat-Misad-Buna'i-Noah,

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Seven-Noah-Hide-Laws calling us to uphold justice, honor human dignity,

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and to commit ourselves to peace and righteousness.

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Let these timeless principles guide our God-Year leadership with compassion and clarity.

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Bless all who serve here with understanding, unity of purpose, and their ability to lead with empathy and wisdom.

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May our efforts contribute to a world filled with goodness and light, and bring us closer to the day when peace and harmony will flourish, and your presence will be felt in all humanity.

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Amen.

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Thank you, Radha.

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Appreciate it.

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Call the 6 o'clock.

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See Councilman in order.

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And please call the roll.

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Mayor Morgan.

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Here.

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We approach in Stevens here councilmember Lee here councilmember Flores here councilmember Fleming here councilmember

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Otega here councilmember Montgomery

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All right. It's now with me for the pledges

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honor the Texas flag

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A pledge allegiance to the Texas one state under God

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Citizen communication

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You say some wish to speak during citizen community communication regarding an item honor off the gentleman

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So after the complete and the required registration card, all comments must be no more than three minutes and the link per section two dash two six B five of the

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Round and I code of ordinance is 2018 addition. Any comments regarding I'm not on the poster. Jim may not be discussed, respond to by the City Council per state law.

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Is there anybody here to speak outside of the public hearing?

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All right. And just to kind of give everybody where we're going to go with this.

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We're going to go through all our stuff and they're right before the public here.

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We're going to take a couple minute break so we can make sure we hear from all of the

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speakers that have asked to speak.

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All right, proclamation, staff recognition, special presentations, E1, consider proclaiming

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December 11th as the Sertoma Day and the City of Round Rock, Mayor Pro Tem.

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Jim, won't you come stand up here?

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Whereas the Round Rock Sertoma Club was chartered on December 11th, 1975, and whereas the Round Rock Sertoma Club will celebrate its 50th anniversary on December 11th, 2025, and whereas the Model of Sertoma International is serviced to mankind, and whereas the primary philanthropy of the Round Rock Sertoma Club is speech in hearing health, and whereas the Round Rock Sertoma Club has raised and given back to the community over $750,000 during its 50 years.

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mostly through the sale of Christmas trees, participation in front of your day.

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4th of July, and other city-sponsored events. And whereas, because of the generosity of the Round Rock

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Sertoma Club, many citizens, mostly children, can now hear through the purchase of hearing aids and

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medical procedures. Now, therefore, I, Kristen Stevens, on behalf of Craig Morgan, mayor of the city of

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Round Rock, Texas, do hereby proclaim December 11, 2025, as Round Rock Sertoma Day, and the city of

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round rock and I invite all citizens of round rock to join me in congratulating the

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Certumac Club for making a positive impact on the lives of people in our community.

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Thank you, Christian, I'd like to thank all city council.

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Certumac through the years has had the pleasure of a relationship with the city council, with

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the city parks and recreation department.

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We honor that.

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We cherish that.

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We hope that continues.

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I want to thank you for all you do to try the city for together will make Round Rock a better place to live.

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Thank you. Thank you, Jim, for all that you do.

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All right, staff presentations are for one

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because they're a presentation and department update from the general services, Chad.

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Good evening, Mayor Counsel.

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Good evening.

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As they're pulling the presentation up, if you don't mind, I like to have all the staff that's here tonight

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if they could just stand up and be recognized. This is the general services staff. You're going to see the

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fleet facilities and building construction staff here.

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Mayor Counsel, as you know, this

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is one of my favorite topics to talk about right here except for vacation and going hunting

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and fishing, but I love this department. We stood this department up in the city of

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Round Rock about 14 years ago and I'm super proud of this department and all the men and women

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in this department. I won't get into all the vision and mission

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statement just but some of the key words that I want to point out that you're going to see,

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you're going to see excellence in there, you're going to see exceptional customer service

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in there, you're going to see respectful with positive, all the men and women in this

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department, in order to be in this department, to lead the fleet facilities and build

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a construction, you must come in and do it with a smile on your face, and you're going

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to see that throughout this whole presentation.

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It's not about your qualifications, it's really about who you are as a person, and if you

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can handle getting that negative call every single morning or on the weekends or whenever

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it comes your way, because when Brooks calls me and then I call someone else, it's usually

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not about how's your morning, it's usually about no offense, it's usually about, this

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is broke, this needs help, this needs to happen.

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Can you get to it how soon, where is this, and the men and women that you see behind

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me, they're the ones that actually do it.

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They do all the work.

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I literally just get to show up and leave the department, I'm very fortunate for that.

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There's the team, as we know, that Letty Hernandez is actually the one that runs the department.

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She's the mom, and Cory and I just have coffee every morning, and talk politics.

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So we'll start off with the building construction team.

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Building construction team is led under Richard Will, Richard Will currently has his project management professional and you'll see six other employees there.

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Five of those employees also are earning their degree in project management.

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Have some shape or form or they have earned it already.

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So it's super important and you won't see that in many cities for

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For people to go and attain that accreditation to be a project management professional,

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really big.

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Next slide I'm going to show you exactly what they're doing, because this one blew me away

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when they put it together.

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390 million.

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That's currently our total of projects going forward right now, 390 million of projects.

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This is projects that are either under design, projects that are under construction, about

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to be completed construction, but bigger than any other year in the past is 390 million.

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And they're doing it.

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We said we would do it.

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We promised you we'd deliver the GeoBonds, and we're doing it.

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And this team, that team of six that you're seeing, is doing all of that.

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They're following the dollar to make sure that the taxpayer dollars are spent wisely.

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We're getting what we asked to get, and they're following the architects, engineers, and contractors

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to making sure that they fulfill their obligation.

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I'm not going to get into all the projects.

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I'll let the department directors get into their individual projects.

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Facility maintenance is led under Eric Davie, the facility managers.

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You can see throughout the years this group of technicians has expanded, it's expanded pretty

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large to be honest with you and that we're now getting into a lot of trades technicians and

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we're asking our employees and we're growing them, we're growing them within.

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We're growing these employees within so they can take care of the city.

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We don't have license rates for this.

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We have HVAC control text. We have licensed electricians. We have all these licensed trades coming up, and we're teaching these, and we're sending them to school. And by doing that, they're staying with us, and they're, they're, they're bound to be a servant leader in the city around Rock, which is huge.

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This next group of individuals are custodial staff. You guys know that I really take pride in this custodial staff. They're doing jobs that most men and women don't want to do. These men and women are doing it with that smile on their face.

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and it's key that we have that small in our face when you're doing these jobs.

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During the COVID years, we've talked about they were the first responders that went into

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every building to disinfect it and they continue to stay here. Most of these men and women are

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ones that we had during COVID years and we're adding to this right now. We have a long tenure

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of custodial staff. It's led under Pam and under Mary and you can see it's a pretty large staff

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that we clean on a daily basis.

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The downtown maintenance technicians,

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you know that we grew this position right here.

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It started with Tristan Adams,

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who was our first maintenance technician.

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Tristan was one of our success stories started at Kastodium

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with the sports center,

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then became a maintenance technician downtown.

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You saw him downtown.

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Tristan is now a supervisor for facilities.

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You see Janard, you see him with a smile on his face

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and you see Juan is now leading that group.

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You guys told us that and you gave us clear direction you want the downtown clean and you want it clean clean daily

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And so with this new group under one you're going to see it clean daily

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There's actually one more that you're not seeing and he'll be here on Monday at NEO

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So we'll be completely full and you'll see him clean in every day

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Just one of the things I'm going to just let you kind of soak up that slide a little bit

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But one of the things I want to point out is we do have a

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Vendor that comes in and cleans besides our own staff and currently our square footage is 1.1 million square foot

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But if you look at it, the vendor is cleaning about 609,000 and we're clean about 762,000.

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If Kevin's in the back analyzing those numbers, please note Kevin that there is some overlap

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in the cleaning.

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So I know the numbers aren't going to add up to the 1.1, but we do have some overlap.

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So sometimes the vendor is clean and weakling because we'll clean during the days and then

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they'll come in and clean.

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Sometimes there are facilities that were the only ones that clean.

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So you will see that.

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But one thing I want to point out in this, we've started with this new vendor service first.

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They brought on what's called orange QC.

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Our current score with orange QC is 86.7%, that's huge.

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And what that means is you can be rest assured that Pam and Mary are daily going through all the facilities

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to make sure service first and our own custodians are actually cleaning the facilities like they should.

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There's any deficiencies, a report gets set up, I see the report.

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And then they're able to fix whatever was deficient.

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So current 86.7% is pretty that's pretty darn good way better than it ever has been in the past. It's a it's a good group that you're seeing

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Fleet maintenance shop. We have two fleet maintenance shops. The fleet maintenance shop is led under Rocky Booley

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Rocky comes to us with a long 10 year of experience in the industry

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The fleet maintenance shop as you see right here is full of men and women that also have the smile on their face

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and what I love about these men and women,

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and I'll show you the two shops we have

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or the main shop and then we have the fire shop.

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What I love about the men and women

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is not just the smile on their face,

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but when they see one of the police vehicles,

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or they see one of the fire vehicles going down the road,

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and they see someone's life get saved,

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they believe in their heart and they truly do.

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They're the ones that did that

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because they made sure that vehicle could get down the road.

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If there's a fire or a fire shop

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and you'll see these guys here in a second,

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They believe that that fire engine is going to that fire can make that response time and it's because of them

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And it truly is it truly is that we have one of the best fleet maintenance shops in the in the nation

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I'll prove it to you in just a little bit

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The fire shop I'm going to highlight these guys just a little bit you get Kurt Mullins leading the shop now Kurt

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Mullins two years ago was the fleet technician of the of the nation

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Deflite technician, we have him in our grass.

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Under Kurt Mullins' John Nivs, John Nivs is the lead technician right now.

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The lead technician right now, and John Nivs this last year, was the runner up fleet technician of the year.

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When we're going to some of these events, I was honestly worried that some of these guys would not come home

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because they walk away with job applications from other places and they walk away with potentially could be a lot more money.

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But they're here because they're invested into Round Rock and that's where they access the key with all these men and women

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They have invested into the city.

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I just want to point this one out highlight this real quick the the total fleet value that we're looking at is about 75 million

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When we look at the $75 million, $30 million of that is fire. Fire takes a lot of the budget and fire is pretty hard to work on. We have that shot dedicated just towards fire that Fleet Maintenance Shop. We have probably one of the best reports with the fire association out of the entire nation as well, and it's because we have such qualified individuals willing to work with fire and on the fire apparatuses. Most of our total value is actually

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police and fire when you look at the total value, we're roughly about 45 million of that 75 million total value.

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Letty and Corey put this slide together and I thought it was really interesting as when we

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stood this up so you can see where we've come from and you can see why we're asking for more

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technicians, why are we asking for more mechanics, why we're asking for more custodians.

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We started this at 560,000 square foot, we're currently sitting at that 1.1 that we talk about now.

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on fleet vehicles we were about 1300 for a long long time and now in 2025 we're

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looking at about 1840 is where we're at with vehicles and equipment.

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about this group of individuals in the back you they don't just come to work and

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they don't just do their job. They search out and figure out how to get the

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certifications and the qualifications they need to get better at their job and

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that's what separates them from any other organization. You look at this and you

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You see, I was a good point to the bottom left and you see the FNP with Danny just got his FNP.

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You also see Eric Dady and Kory Ahmed on both are holding their FNPs as well, the CAFOM.

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That's a certified automotive fleet manager.

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We have two individuals that have a tamed fleet manager status ready to take over for Rocky,

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ready to jump into some other city if they can.

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That's the level that we're at.

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They're ready, already.

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Succession planning for us is really huge.

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We look at the PMP.

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We've talked about that.

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You look at your ASEs automotive service excellence and you have 42 ASEs that have been attained and six of those are master technicians.

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The master technicians is not an easy task to become.

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We also have, I want to point out that your fleet right now as far as the 100 best fleets were number 15 in the nation.

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We also applied for leading fleets and were number 11.

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So at the two organizations, they are telling you right now they're telling the citizens here we have one of the best fleets in the entire nation.

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I mentioned succession planning before and it's really big for us that we grow our staff internally and we're able to just this year alone.

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We're able to grow Tristan Adams into that facility supervisor role.

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We're able to grow one into the downtown crew leader.

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Mary just took over the custodial supervisor.

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I mentioned John Niv's just took over the lead fleet technician.

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He followed Kurt Mohn's who was in it and Kurt became the superintendent.

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And then we have, oh my gosh, I just took a cramp on my last guy right there, a quick

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eye.

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I'm sorry.

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Tell me again.

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Hunter.

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Hunter, sorry about that.

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Hunter, I apologize.

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Hunter went from a mechanic to a public safety mechanic.

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And so what's really huge is that we can grow our employees into these into these next positions.

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And Mayor Counsel, this is your team that you see it.

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We always try to do a team building event and we try to get together.

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At least I don't know if we try, I like to try to do it quarterly.

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This was kickball.

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We really got to figure out how out of shape we all were when we did that.

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And it was a very fun experience to figure out how out of shape we were.

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Mayor Counsel, I'm very happy to end this right now and just let you know you do have one

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of the best general services in the entire state, if not the entire nation, and I'd be happy

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to answer any questions or take any comments.

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All right.

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Thank you, Chad.

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Any questions or comments?

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Councilmember Flores?

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No, just a thank you for the presentation.

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Thank you to all your team for being here and for the work that you do for showing up every

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day and keeping the city moving along, so thank you all.

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Mayor Pro Tem.

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Yeah, Chad, I'll just say echo Councilmember Flores' comments and just say, y'all are really

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responsible for stretching our taxpayer dollar to the fullest, whether it be putting together

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a good construction project, or keeping our facilities maintained really nicely, or

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fleet maintenance. I mean, we hear often when you bring up a new piece of equipment, how you've

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stretched the dollar, how you've made that piece of equipment last well beyond its lifespan. So,

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really, and truly, our taxpayers should be thankful to you because you are definitely making their

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many work for longevity wise. So thank you. Thank you all so much for what you do. It's an

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unsung job, but we really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I don't want to really much

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to add, except for thanks. And thank you to your team as much as

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We do appreciate all the work that y'all put in, long hours, and we are very grateful for that. Yeah, so thank you, guys, for giving us the tools we need to do our job. We really appreciate that as well. Thank you, Jen. All right. Thank you.

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All right consent agenda a lot of them. Listener the consideration are considered to be routine by the city council be enacted by one motion

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There'll be no separate discussion of these items unless requested by council member in which event the item will be removed from the consent agenda and

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Considered separately and by having questions or need anything removed

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All right G1 consent approved meant from the November 2020 2025 city council member g2 consider resolution authorizing merit execute and

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In agreement with the Presidio Network Solutions Group LLC for the purchase of Cisco branded products and related services.

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G3, you can say a resolution authorizing the renewal of the stop loss insurance coverage agreement with the United Health Care Insurance Company for the period of January 1, 2026 through December 31st, 2026 and authorizing the execution of any related documents.

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It's G4, consider resolution authorizing the renewal and rate.

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Confirmation of the city's long-term disability policy with Madison National Life Insurance,

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company EAM for the period of January 1, 2026, through December 31, 2027.

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G5, consider resolution authorizing the renewal and rate, confirmation of the city's short-term

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disability policy with Madison National Life Insurance, company EAMC.

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For the period of January 1, 2026, through December 31, 2027,

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are maintained and motion adopted consent.

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So move.

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Second.

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Motion made by Council Member Tegas.

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Second by Council Member Fleming.

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Any other discussion?

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And please vote the council.

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Council Member Lee.

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Yes.

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Council Member Flores.

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Yes.

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Council Member Fleming.

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Yes.

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Council Member Tegas.

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Yes.

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Mayor Pro Tem Stevens.

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Yes.

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Mayor Morgan.

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Yes.

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Resolution H1.

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Consider resolution.

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Authorized as a Mayor to execute a first amendment

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to the reimbursement agreement

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with Williamson County and Williamson Central

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for a praisled district to reimburse certain litigation costs related to late-side apartments,

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Round Rock, Texas, LLC, and to our versus WCAD lawsuit.

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Yes, Mayor and Council, this item is to approve a first amendment.

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We currently have a reimbursement agreement with Williams and County and WCAD.

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This is related to the Lakeside apartments, Round Rock, Texas, LLC, lawsuit against WCAD.

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That's for tax exemption status.

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And as we discussed on Tuesday, that's a public facility corporation.

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The city is opposed to that corporation becoming tax exempt.

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Therefore, we are participating in the legal costs in that lawsuit.

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Happy to answer any questions.

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Everybody understand that?

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Any questions?

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Any time motion to stop the resolution?

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Assembly?

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Second, motion made by Councilmember Fleming,

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I mean, say goodbye, Council Member Tega, any other discussion?

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And please, public council.

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Council Member Flores?

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Yes.

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Council Member Plemming?

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Yes.

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Council Member Tega?

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Yes.

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Mayor Pro Tempestidance?

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Yes.

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Mayor Moran?

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Yes.

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H2, consider resolution.

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Authorism Redics can agreement with WorldX designing for the purchase and installation

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of play equipment at Play for All Abilities Park, Phase 2.

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Rick?

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Good evening, Mayor and Council.

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Good evening.

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This is a fun item to present.

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That

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this agreement with Worlux allows us to create a brand new pod for the Play for All Park.

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It's probably one of our most popular parks, not just in Round Rug, the Central Texas.

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And we have the fortunate pleasure to expand this due to a grant that the Play for All Foundation

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received that will be coming back to the City of Round Rug.

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We've got Lee Buckland with the Play for All Foundation in the back.

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We've also got two members of Republic that we actually received the National Promise Grant through the Play for All Foundation back in the back as well.

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We've got Corey Johnson and then we've got Alfonso C. Fuentes back there as well.

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We also have Josh with Wurlick so we've got a lot of people and it takes a lot of people when you do something this grand in a community like ours.

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So, this agreement's in the amount of $536,468 for the site work, installation of all

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that equipment.

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Most of the grant will pay for the equipment that's going in.

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We're just going to be doing all the site work that happens through this process.

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With the Promise Grant, we're actually making sure that this is about a sustainable pod

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and really talk about sustainable recycling practices that you're going to see here.

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This is actually the play for all part that you'll see there and

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this is kind of the new addition

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You see they're going to have a replica of the of the Republic

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And they're going to really show how it goes through the process of sustainability.

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And that's going to be that truck. So we think it's going to be a nice addition to the park as well as teaching the kids in the community about sustainable practices. With that, I'd be happy to answer any questions if you have them. All right. Any questions, comments? Thank you to the public and all their work on that.

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that.

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All right.

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Anything else?

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The resolution?

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Second.

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Motion made by Councillor Matriga, second by the mayor.

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Pro-tune the other discussion.

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And please, please.

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Public council.

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Council Member Flomen.

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Yes.

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Council Member Ritega.

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Yes.

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Mayor Pro-tum Stevens.

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Yes.

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Council Member Lee.

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Yes.

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Council Member Plores.

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Yes.

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Mayor Morgan.

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Yes.

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Yes. H3 is a presentation regarding the resolution of

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proven the captain improvements plan progress.

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Am I in your report regarding roadway impact fees from the captain improvements advisory committee?

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Good evening, Mayor Council.

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Gerald Polbar from public works transportation infrastructure side.

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I am here this evening to give a short presentation.

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Our semi annual report for the CIC program.

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I just like to say right up front that.

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all as well with our program. We're a few years into it now so everything seems to

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be flowing like one would expect a maturing program to do. This report is to

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keep us compliant with the Texas government code and I would also like to

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point out that the report you received should also have the recommendation letter

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from the CAHC Council Committee when we met with them about a month ago now.

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My presentation is going to basically follow the same one you've seen the past.

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There's not anything particular new to it.

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We'll do a quick little overview, talk about our fee collection and then a little administrative

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talk.

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Our overview, y'all seen this slide before.

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four. We started 2019. We made a five year update in 2023 when we split from three

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service areas to four service areas to make sure that we kept everything within that

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six mile limit kept us compliant. These are our collection rates. These have been in effect

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the latest ones went to effect in January of this year so we're we're in good shape there.

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These are our four areas that we currently have as far service areas A, B, C, D while we ended up

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doing when we went from three to four we split B into make sure I said that right we split B

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to be in D.

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This will give you an idea of where our collections are at.

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We collected from April

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this year to September this year just a little over a million dollars in in roadway impact fees.

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Our total collections since inception if you add those up is just over sixteen million dollars.

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So, you know, that's at least enough money for one reasonable size project.

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As far as our offset program, we have one offset that we worked with Gulf RC Ventures,

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and that's for a section of Joe DiMaggio that they're building.

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We are going to be allowing them runway impact fee credits

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of just a little over 1.7 million on that particular job, the infrastructure that they're

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building for the city.

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Our distributions, we didn't have any distributions in 2025,

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but this gives you an idea of the distributions that we've had since adoption. I think

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that adds up to $6.5 million, which leaves us a little over 10 million on our ballot sheet

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at the moment.

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These are some examples. These were prior to 2025 but these

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roadway projects mirror our transportation master plan and all the different

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roadway projects that y'all have seen us working on around town.

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This is Area A and B, Area C and D,

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and the reason I'm standing up here tonight, as far as our local

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government code, which will keep us compliant with state regs.

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And as I mentioned earlier, we don't

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have any significant issues with our program right now. We will be doing some minor updates to it.

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fee study between now and the May I guess 2026 version when we come back the

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bridge track is one of those that we'll be looking at and getting

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incorporated between now and then and with that I

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think I got left in from

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last time but I guess I'm here to say that you have a report you have a letter

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and I think it's just a matter of y'all approving I'll take questions any

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questions for Joe you're telling motion to stop the resolution so we second

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motion made by their mayor pro-tem saying by a council member or taiga any

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other discussion and please follow the council may I pro-tem Stephen yes council

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member Lee yes councilmember florist yes councilmember clemen yes council member

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I'm going to retain it.

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Yes.

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Me and Morgan.

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Yes.

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H-4.

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Thank you, General.

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H-4.

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Consider a presentation regarding in a resolution approval.

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In the capital improvements plan progress.

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Am I in your report regarding the water and waste water from the capital improvements advisory committee?

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Good evening, Mayor and council.

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Similar to Gerald, this is for the water, waste water impact fee collections that we collect

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because we charge impact fees or capital recovery fees for new developments.

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We are required to present this report every six months.

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on November 5th, we presented it to the CIC, they had no issues, and now we're presenting

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it to Council. So I will go through it here fairly quick.

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In summary, this is for the last six months. So April 1st through September 30th, which

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is the last six months of FY25, is what we will be summarizing the new connections. Basically,

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its growth versus projections are capital projects and the impact these we collected. Are we

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progressing as we anticipated with growth and I'll show you kind of the new

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connections that we received over the last six months.

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So we continue to grow

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the blue bars here are the new connections to the water system as so you can

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see the new connections are continuing. This is over the last two years so we're

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roughly almost 39,000 water meters 39,000 connections. We are

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continuing to grow as we anticipate. The yellow line is our water usage out of

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of the lakes and then the green is out of the edwards aquifer you can see with conservation

450
00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:07,500
those numbers are kind of going up in the summer coming down in the winter but we're

451
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:11,880
not seeing significant growth in the water usage even though our connections continue

452
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:12,940
to occur.

453
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:20,700
Let's do some of these so this is kind of a by-month I wanted to show you this this is our

454
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:25,920
average daily water usage per month for the past five years but I want to show you the purple

455
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,960
lines on top, that's our water reuse. That has become part of our water system, and we're

456
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,120
trying to grow that. That is water that we've already paid for and used once. We take it to the

457
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,760
wastewater plant and treat it, and they were reusing it for non-polarable purposes. We want to keep

458
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,280
seeing that purple line continue to grow because that helps keep our rates low to our residents

459
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,080
when we're using that water for a second time since we've already paid for it once. Okay, permits.

460
00:33:50,660 --> 00:33:55,580
I'll show you the single family permits over the last six months. Actually, it's gotten by year

461
00:33:55,580 --> 00:34:02,100
here now here, or the last year we had 503 single-family residential permits that we

462
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:02,500
issued.

463
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:08,100
You see that's been tracking over the last five years, 503 for single-family.

464
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:16,680
Multi-family, last year we had 625 units, so we've identified that apartment unit uses

465
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:22,680
about half of what a single-family home uses, so we charge half of an LUE for that half

466
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:23,260
of a connection.

467
00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:29,580
So, that's why you'll see 387 LUEs, that's how many impact fees they paid, and then

468
00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:35,860
on commercial, 36 building permits issued in FY25, the number LUEs is calculated based

469
00:34:35,860 --> 00:34:36,960
on the water meter size.

470
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,460
So, the bigger the facility, the larger the water meter, the more impact fees they'll pay.

471
00:34:42,740 --> 00:34:47,400
And the number of permits, it's if it's a large hotel or a small restaurant, it's still just

472
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:47,940
one permit.

473
00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:50,020
So, that's always charged based on the meter size for those.

474
00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:55,100
How much money do we collect over the last year for impact fees, $4.8 million?

475
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,780
A little bit less than we anticipated because we've had some of

476
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:24,580
Some facilities that were built, and we kind of population continue to grow, but we had some vacant facilities that I think people have moved into. That's why the number of collections is less there. And also sometimes when a developer developer builds an impact the eligible project, we will keep them credits because they're building it and paying for it. They may not pay the impact fee, so that will keep the number down sometimes as well.

477
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,100
Population rejections in Round Rock.

478
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:38,080
We've anticipated about 139,000 but we're actually around 141,000 in the city limits and then our ETJ, we're around 202,000 people.

479
00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:46,240
So we continue to grow fairly steady as you see here over the past five years and we have to build our water wastewater infrastructure to meet that demand.

480
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,740
And we want to stay ahead of that so we can continue to grow here and round luck.

481
00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:57,360
I won't go through these projects, but these are all the projects in the 10-year window of what we put into our feet calculation.

482
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:04,620
So these are the projects that we need to build that add capacity to the system, and that's kind of what we use this money to pay for.

483
00:36:04,740 --> 00:36:20,380
We want new growth to pay for itself, and if we're doing that, then the people that have been living here for a long time are not having to pay for a water treatment plan expansion, it's the new development that's coming into helping pay for that, and that's the kind of the philosophy we want our financial philosophy.

484
00:36:22,860 --> 00:36:25,180
These are just all the projects in the 10-year window.

485
00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:26,620
These are the wastewater ones here.

486
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,220
And then we also charge the water reuse.

487
00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:31,620
We put that into the calculation.

488
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,400
Last couple of slides here.

489
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:35,380
I want to show you this one.

490
00:36:35,860 --> 00:36:40,400
This shows you the rates in this area with other utilities.

491
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:46,840
And it assumes if you're a house and you use 10,000 gallons of water in the month and wastewater use 6,000 gallons.

492
00:36:47,380 --> 00:36:51,080
This is what you pay in the City of Round Rock $78.8 for that month.

493
00:36:52,820 --> 00:36:54,960
We always just like to track that to see how we're doing.

494
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:59,480
We're really proud of our utility and if we are operating efficiently and effectively

495
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:06,420
and using our utility funds the right way and new growth is paying for itself, we can keep

496
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:09,120
these rates as some of the lowest in the region and we're really proud of that.

497
00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:12,650
Here's the impact fee comparison.

498
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:17,090
We used to have the highest impact fee in the state for new connections, but now you see

499
00:37:17,090 --> 00:37:27,150
So if you're an example with this means, if you're a house, a brand new house, and you want to tie into the city's water system, you will pay an impact fee of $4,912 for that house.

500
00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:38,190
If you want to tie into the wastewater system, it's 2,921 for a total of 7833, that is paid by the builder, and they usually put that amount of cost into the price of the home.

501
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:46,330
And that money that we collect here is used to build projects in the water system and the wastewater system that adds capacity so

502
00:37:46,330 --> 00:37:47,330
that we can meet the demands.

503
00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:50,930
All right, that summarizes it.

504
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:53,630
So, basically, we're progressing as we expected.

505
00:37:53,890 --> 00:37:55,470
Our growth is occurring as we expected.

506
00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:57,990
And we have the funds coming in that we can build

507
00:37:57,990 --> 00:38:00,250
the infrastructure so there's no perceived inequities.

508
00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:03,230
We will come before you every six months with an update.

509
00:38:03,530 --> 00:38:05,410
We do update the impact the calculations

510
00:38:05,410 --> 00:38:07,230
about every three years so that we can make sure

511
00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:08,110
that they're set accordingly.

512
00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:10,410
So, with that, I'll be happy to answer any questions.

513
00:38:11,130 --> 00:38:11,530
Questions?

514
00:38:13,130 --> 00:38:13,410
All right.

515
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:15,070
Entertainer, motion off the resolution.

516
00:38:15,350 --> 00:38:15,670
So moved.

517
00:38:15,930 --> 00:38:16,150
Second.

518
00:38:16,150 --> 00:38:19,790
motion made by Councilmember Flores, seconded by Councilmember Ritagin, any other discussion?

519
00:38:20,770 --> 00:38:21,650
And please follow the council.

520
00:38:22,590 --> 00:38:23,290
Councilmember Lee.

521
00:38:23,710 --> 00:38:23,930
Yes.

522
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:24,950
Councilmember Flores.

523
00:38:25,110 --> 00:38:25,250
Yes.

524
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:26,350
Councilmember Fleming.

525
00:38:26,710 --> 00:38:26,850
Yes.

526
00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:28,030
Councilmember Ritagin.

527
00:38:28,170 --> 00:38:28,310
Yes.

528
00:38:28,570 --> 00:38:29,350
Mayor Proy Tim Stevens.

529
00:38:29,530 --> 00:38:29,670
Yes.

530
00:38:30,030 --> 00:38:30,430
Mayor Morgan.

531
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:30,790
Yes.

532
00:38:31,090 --> 00:38:33,130
H5 Consider Resolution Authorism Mayor Dick.

533
00:38:33,250 --> 00:38:33,790
You know, I hope so.

534
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:36,530
Water Agreement with Furn Bluff Municipal Utility District.

535
00:38:37,490 --> 00:38:42,330
Furn Bluff Mud is a on the west side of Round Rock, Office 620.

536
00:38:42,330 --> 00:38:45,890
They are a wholesale water customer of the city of Round Rock.

537
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:51,530
Their agreement has expired and they want to continue to receive water from the city.

538
00:38:52,050 --> 00:38:55,530
So before you as a water supply agreement, it'll be for 40 years.

539
00:38:56,550 --> 00:39:01,370
The rates, we do a rate model for retail customers as well as wholesale customers.

540
00:39:01,430 --> 00:39:05,050
We have about 12 wholesale customers from Bluff mode is one of them.

541
00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:12,210
Their rate today, the base charge is $27,443, and their volume charges $3 per thousand.

542
00:39:12,990 --> 00:39:15,830
We deliver water at two locations to firm bluff mud.

543
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:19,190
Here's 620 right here, Wyoming Springs.

544
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:26,130
So the first is the meter right here at Park Valley, and then the second one is at Creek Bend and Wyoming Springs.

545
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:29,570
That's the two delivery points, firm bluff paid for the meters.

546
00:39:29,970 --> 00:39:34,830
They are paying for calibration of the meters once a year to make sure that we are sending

547
00:39:34,830 --> 00:39:39,410
the water and they're reading correctly so they've been a good partner firm bluff so we would

548
00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:43,690
recommend approving this agreement to continue providing water to firm bluff for the next 40 years.

549
00:39:44,270 --> 00:39:49,130
I'll be happy to answer any questions. Questions? I'm going to turn the motion out the resolution,

550
00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:54,130
so move. Second. Motion made by Councillor Ategyo, second by Councillor M. Flemany,

551
00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:57,050
Any other discussion, and please vote the council.

552
00:39:58,290 --> 00:39:59,170
Councilmember Flores.

553
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,980
Yes. Councilmember Fleming. Yes. Councilmember Aitega. Yes. Mayor Pro Tems, Stephen. Yes. Councilmember Lee. Yes. Mayor Morgan. Yes. H6, consider resolution, a term that patent destruction LLC provides the best value for the city for the West Transmission Main Valve replacement project and authorizing the mayor to execute a standard form of agreement. This is some improvements to our water distribution system. Basically, where we're located here, here's I-35, here's 1431. The blue lines on the map are

554
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:35,300
water lines and what we're doing here is adding nine new gate valves.

555
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:41,440
If you recall a couple years ago we had a major break here along 1431 and we were not

556
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,340
able to shut down the water where we needed to and we were in potential of putting people

557
00:40:45,340 --> 00:40:47,600
out of water and we do not want to do that.

558
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,660
So we've studied the area and we're going to be adding some gate valves.

559
00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:53,800
That allows us to isolate if there's a break in the system.

560
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,080
We can isolate it so that we can repair it and keep all of our connections in play.

561
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,440
So the three locations right here will add three valves.

562
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:07,480
You'll see in the inset here, these blue, black and white circles, those are valves.

563
00:41:08,180 --> 00:41:12,700
And then there'll be three more at this location, and then three more here off the front end rows of 35.

564
00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,960
We've gone out to bid patent construction.

565
00:41:16,580 --> 00:41:19,700
We would like to award the contract to them for $1.4 million.

566
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,300
This was a competitive seal proposal project.

567
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,660
The estimate was two million, so we did get some good prices.

568
00:41:27,660 --> 00:41:31,500
Justice, I think Jeff Burkett is here from Pat and I have not seen him.

569
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:40,020
There he is in the very back, representing Pat and so we recommend approval of this construction contract and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

570
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:40,840
Questions?

571
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,240
Councillor Fulhamie.

572
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:50,260
I was just curious if there's other areas of concern in this city and the situation that we're going to have to address in the future or is this isolated area?

573
00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:56,280
this was a we've done a pretty very good job when you think of the city we have

574
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,360
main water lines that kind of go all around the city so we have a looped system

575
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:04,580
and what's good about that is we're sending water to every location in two

576
00:42:04,580 --> 00:42:09,620
directions so it's not like we send water to one location and it's a break this

577
00:42:09,620 --> 00:42:14,580
area has been suspect we don't have these kind of areas that I'm aware of around

578
00:42:14,580 --> 00:42:18,960
town we're always looking to make sure though but in this area we we did

579
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,960
identified that we've had some valves. We had some valves there, but they were these older

580
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,140
called butterfly valves. And it's hard to shut them down and get a complete seal. So we're

581
00:42:28,140 --> 00:42:33,720
going back in with these gate valves that will seal the line. So we want to make sure we're

582
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:39,320
always looking for ways to make sure that we are resilient and can provide water in two different

583
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:45,060
directions in case we have any issues. Okay, thank you. Here are questions. Anytime most of the

584
00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:50,220
resolution. So motion made by Councilmember Flores, second by Councilmember Tegga, any other discussion?

585
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,260
And please vote the council. Councilmember Fleming. Yes. Councilmember Tegga. Yes.

586
00:42:56,620 --> 00:43:01,020
Mayor Parchment Stevens. Yes. Councilmember Lee. Yes. Councilmember Flores. Yes.

587
00:43:01,820 --> 00:43:06,100
Mayor Morgan. Yes. Each seven to the resolution authorize mayor Datescreen here on local

588
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:10,440
grim with the city of Austin, city of Cedar Park and city of Leander regarding allocation of costs

589
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,100
for design for the expansion and rehabilitation of a portion of the breastfeed creek, regional

590
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:20,360
wastewater interceptor. Council, we're part of a regional system

591
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,060
with the three other cities. The yellow lines you see here are regional wastewater

592
00:43:25,060 --> 00:43:29,620
interceptors. Basically, that means it's a large wastewater line. This line right here is

593
00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:36,100
a 60-inch line, which is 5 feet in diameter. When it was constructed from this location, basically

594
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:38,980
where you're out here is 79, here's eight of your grams.

595
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,860
So this line is following brushy creek, it's a 60-inch that goes from here all the way

596
00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:47,880
to the wastewater plant located right here off 79.

597
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:55,060
We knew that this line needed to be upsized, so the item before you is an interlocal agreement

598
00:43:55,060 --> 00:44:00,440
between the four cities, Leander, Cedar Park, Austin, and Round Rock, to identify cost participation

599
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,720
in two things.

600
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:06,660
One, we need to do some rehabilitation to this line, there's some defects in the line.

601
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,800
And secondly, we have to build a second parallel line along there.

602
00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:14,000
Most likely, we'll build the parallel line first.

603
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:17,500
Have all the wastewater go through that line and then we'll come back and

604
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,120
rehab this existing one, because wastewater's flowing 24-7.

605
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,560
Our partners have all taken this interlocal agreement to their councils.

606
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:41,480
And it identifies the percentage split, so Round Rock is 53.33% of the cost to do this work, and then there are other three cities are sharing that and that's based on capacity, waste water capacity that the four cities are sending through this line.

607
00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:43,360
So this is an interlocal agreement.

608
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:54,100
We are selected an engineer that we're negotiating a contract with, so I'll be coming back before you in the next month or two for an engineering contract to start the engineering design work on these lines.

609
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:59,860
So I recommend approval of this interlocal agreement with our three partners for the brushy creek regional waste forest.

610
00:45:00,430 --> 00:45:25,870
Questions? Your turn, motion, motion, motion made by councilmember Fleming, seconded by councilmember Lee and the other discussion. And please, public council. Councilmember Tega? Yes. Mayor Progyn Stevens? Yes. Councilmember Lee? Yes. Councilmember Flores? Yes. Councilmember Fleming? Yes. Mayor Morgan? Yes. A J, consider a resolution in terms of that cash construction company provides the best value for the city for the Kenny Fort Boulevard.

611
00:45:26,510 --> 00:45:29,990
24-inch reuse water line extension project and authorize them

612
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:31,350
in ASQ's standard form of agreement.

613
00:45:32,590 --> 00:45:35,790
I was talking about the water reuse system earlier in the presentation.

614
00:45:36,250 --> 00:45:39,430
So this is a line that we're going to be adding to the system.

615
00:45:39,450 --> 00:45:40,550
It's a construction contract.

616
00:45:41,410 --> 00:45:43,890
It's the dark purple line that we are going to build.

617
00:45:43,970 --> 00:45:47,190
It's going to be a 24-inch diameter water reuse line.

618
00:45:47,610 --> 00:45:49,790
It will start at the waste water plant on 79.

619
00:45:50,670 --> 00:45:52,530
It will follow a long, brushy creek

620
00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:56,490
behind Kalahari on the south side of Kalahari right here.

621
00:45:57,090 --> 00:45:59,290
It will not be in the creek, it will be outside the tree line,

622
00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:02,490
and then it will hit Kenny Ford Boulevard right here

623
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:05,770
and head south and tie in right there at Forest Creek Drive

624
00:46:05,770 --> 00:46:06,670
and Kenny Ford.

625
00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:10,290
The other lines you see here, the lighter purple

626
00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:12,990
are existing water reels lines that are already in the system.

627
00:46:13,650 --> 00:46:15,890
You'll see a light purple line here down Kenny Ford.

628
00:46:16,110 --> 00:46:18,290
We did install this one with Kenny Ford's segment two

629
00:46:18,290 --> 00:46:21,530
and three road project that extended from Forest Creek

630
00:46:21,530 --> 00:46:31,330
to get us, but this will tie in all that so that we can then continue to market and promote water reuse to our system city.

631
00:46:32,090 --> 00:46:40,970
This dash line is a future line that we will send down a channel, go behind Clay Matson Rec Center near Dell computers and get us all the way past

632
00:46:40,970 --> 00:46:44,230
at a school in closer down here to 45.

633
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:48,690
So really want to continue to promote water reuse in the city.

634
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:52,670
We have 15 bidders for this project, which is very large for us.

635
00:46:53,130 --> 00:46:56,990
We would like to recommend a word to cash construction for $5.1 million.

636
00:46:57,790 --> 00:47:03,990
I will add that we have a grant from the Bureau of Reclamation that they will pay 25% of that construction cost.

637
00:47:04,590 --> 00:47:08,030
So that leaves Round Rock responsible for 75% of that number.

638
00:47:08,930 --> 00:47:17,930
tonight we have Travis Glass and Troy Jurtie here with Cash Construction. I appreciate them being here. Cash has done several projects for us.

639
00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:25,050
They have construction underway on projects around town right now. They're a very qualified contractor and I recommend approval of this contract to cash.

640
00:47:25,290 --> 00:47:26,090
Be happy to answer any questions.

641
00:47:26,590 --> 00:47:26,950
Questions?

642
00:47:27,590 --> 00:47:28,210
your time?

643
00:47:28,370 --> 00:47:29,150
Your time is up to resolution.

644
00:47:29,530 --> 00:47:29,750
Move.

645
00:47:30,810 --> 00:47:31,030
Second.

646
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:32,630
Motion made by Councillor Natagia.

647
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:33,830
Second by Councillor Romerlini.

648
00:47:34,030 --> 00:47:34,710
Any other discussion?

649
00:47:35,450 --> 00:47:36,390
And please follow the council.

650
00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:37,850
Mayor Pritchand.

651
00:47:38,410 --> 00:47:38,530
Yes.

652
00:47:38,930 --> 00:47:39,670
Councillor Member Lee.

653
00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:40,110
Yes.

654
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:41,250
Councillor Member Flores.

655
00:47:41,450 --> 00:47:41,590
Yes.

656
00:47:41,930 --> 00:47:42,730
Councillor Member Fleming.

657
00:47:43,090 --> 00:47:43,230
Yes.

658
00:47:43,470 --> 00:47:44,390
Councillor Member Natagia.

659
00:47:44,570 --> 00:47:44,730
Yes.

660
00:47:44,970 --> 00:47:45,390
Mayor Morgan.

661
00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:45,790
Yes.

662
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:46,930
Thank you all for being here.

663
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:48,490
H9.

664
00:47:48,690 --> 00:47:49,530
Senator Resolution accept.

665
00:47:49,710 --> 00:47:50,230
Thank you, Michael.

666
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Senator Resolution accepted in the city's quarterly financial and investment report for the quarter

667
00:47:54,650 --> 00:47:57,870
in your ended September 30, 2025, Kevin.

668
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:59,130
Good evening.

669
00:47:59,710 --> 00:47:59,970
Good evening.

670
00:48:00,850 --> 00:48:03,330
So the city's quarterly financial investment port

671
00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:05,870
for the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2025,

672
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which ended September 30, 2025.

673
00:48:09,830 --> 00:48:13,090
Start off with a financial update portion of this presentation.

674
00:48:14,430 --> 00:48:17,650
Starting with economic conditions and employment,

675
00:48:18,130 --> 00:48:20,570
remains stable through the month of September.

676
00:48:20,730 --> 00:48:23,110
Roundbacks on employment rate was 3.8%.

677
00:48:23,110 --> 00:48:27,490
Nationally, the unemployment rate climbed a little bit to 4.4% the highest

678
00:48:27,490 --> 00:48:29,270
expense since October 2021.

679
00:48:30,010 --> 00:48:35,110
The delayed September jobs report shows the US had 119,000 jobs for the

680
00:48:35,110 --> 00:48:38,510
month of September that did not include, however, some federal employees who

681
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:39,950
accepted deferred resignation offers.

682
00:48:40,410 --> 00:48:43,470
Those decreases will appear in the October and November reports.

683
00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:49,170
It also doesn't include about 150,000 layoffs that were announced in October.

684
00:48:49,170 --> 00:48:54,310
So we'll have to watch the unemployment reports in the subsequent months.

685
00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:59,790
Locally, unemployment claims increased 13.4% through the quarter in September 2025.

686
00:49:01,010 --> 00:49:03,230
Consumer confidence remains volatile.

687
00:49:03,930 --> 00:49:09,370
The consumer confidence for Texas specifically reached the lowest level since 2020.

688
00:49:09,570 --> 00:49:11,130
It decreased on the 88.3.

689
00:49:11,290 --> 00:49:15,070
However, since September, it's rebounded up to 108.2.

690
00:49:15,070 --> 00:49:19,410
Again, just showing that volatility continues as economic uncertainties continue.

691
00:49:21,340 --> 00:49:26,980
First inflation, the CPI, we are seeing a slight uptick on to 3.0% for September.

692
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,780
We're still below what the change in CPI was the last two years, but

693
00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:34,780
are now above where we were last September.

694
00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:40,560
Excuse me, we're now above where we were, so that is consumer price index.

695
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,820
Moving on to our city actuals.

696
00:49:42,820 --> 00:49:45,520
So, again, this is the fourth quarter report for Fiscal 2025,

697
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,600
however, these are unaudited totals in our subject to change.

698
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,160
We're right in the midst of our year-end audit process.

699
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:54,860
Sales tax actuals increased by 5.4%.

700
00:49:54,860 --> 00:49:57,240
So we saw some pretty solid growth in sales tax,

701
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,220
which is the city's largest revenue source.

702
00:49:59,220 --> 00:49:59,980
Came in.

703
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:17,400
Above projections to see why the sales tax without Dell, with Dell pulled out increased 3.2% again showing good underlying growth. Property taxes ended the fiscal year almost right at budget just slightly under projections at 91.2 million dollars.

704
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:31,620
Moving on to some selected general fund revenues. We saw growth in almost all of these categories from last year. One of the point out license permits and fees have increased 22.8% driven again by just the development.

705
00:50:31,620 --> 00:50:33,920
that occurred during fiscal year 2025.

706
00:50:34,860 --> 00:50:40,280
We also saw growth as expected in contracts and other as a result of increased revenues

707
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,280
for fire protection and some inspections.

708
00:50:44,490 --> 00:50:48,490
The utility fund revenues are demand-based seasonal or are affected by the weather.

709
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:55,410
We ended fiscal year 2025 with revenues above 2024 for both water, wastewater and storm

710
00:50:55,410 --> 00:51:00,410
water as expected due to some retail rate increases adopted for fiscal year 2025.

711
00:51:02,190 --> 00:51:05,830
Moving on to our hotel occupancy tax and our venue tax revenues.

712
00:51:06,090 --> 00:51:10,610
We did see a decrease of these of 3.8% from the previous fiscal year.

713
00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:13,650
We have 4,957 hotel rooms.

714
00:51:14,330 --> 00:51:18,850
One additional hotel in our construction expected to open in 2026.

715
00:51:20,290 --> 00:51:23,350
I was asked Tuesday to speak to the occupancy tax revenues.

716
00:51:23,590 --> 00:51:27,310
Again, we do see a decrease of 3.8%.

717
00:51:27,310 --> 00:51:32,470
When we look at our occupancy rates, we see potentially one reason for that decrease.

718
00:51:32,870 --> 00:51:39,110
We had occupancy rate of 64% this September, last September where we were at 72%.

719
00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:44,110
So where occupancy has dropped a little bit, added a slide to this evening's presentation.

720
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The chart on the left shows occupancy tax revenues from all brick and mortar hotels.

721
00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:52,110
Again, 3.8% decrease compared to last year.

722
00:51:52,110 --> 00:51:55,230
when we pull out Calahari, which is our largest hotel,

723
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:57,010
both in terms of number of rooms,

724
00:51:57,370 --> 00:51:59,190
as well as occupancy tax generated.

725
00:52:00,370 --> 00:52:02,630
Calahari continues to thrive here in Round Rock,

726
00:52:02,830 --> 00:52:04,710
and we think it's masking a little bit

727
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:08,770
of some underlying data that let me look more concerning.

728
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:11,130
So again, the slide on the left, all hotels,

729
00:52:11,430 --> 00:52:13,770
slide on the right, all hotels, except for Calahari,

730
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:16,750
that leaves us with a decrease of closer to 10%.

731
00:52:16,750 --> 00:52:20,130
So we do have some hotels that have,

732
00:52:20,130 --> 00:52:24,290
of some occupancy tax collections down 20, 30% from last year.

733
00:52:24,730 --> 00:52:27,730
We're seeing that mainly in our discounted and extended stay hotels.

734
00:52:28,410 --> 00:52:34,330
So I think it just shows that there is some market instability in especially that discount extended stay market.

735
00:52:35,010 --> 00:52:38,150
Staff will continue to watch it as we move forward into fiscal year 2026.

736
00:52:38,430 --> 00:52:40,090
We're in regular talks with both the city and

737
00:52:40,090 --> 00:52:45,410
the managers office as well as our sports management tourism department who interface regularly with our local hoteliers.

738
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,020
Moving on to the quarterly investment report portion.

739
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,420
The city's investment policy is conservative.

740
00:52:54,860 --> 00:52:57,900
It uses a laddered approach that meets safety, liquidity, and yield.

741
00:52:58,160 --> 00:52:59,740
Those are listed in terms of importance.

742
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,880
We regularly update and review our cash flow projections.

743
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,140
We have quarterly financial investment reports just like we are this evening, and

744
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:12,460
we comply with the Public Fund's Investment Act or state law in terms of what we are allowed to invest in.

745
00:53:13,720 --> 00:53:17,640
We had a quarter ending portfolio balance of $549.1 million.

746
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:23,660
dollars. This is down from $647.7 million last quarter. As we have been drawing down balances

747
00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:28,280
to make our annual debt service payments, which are due in August each year, as well as

748
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,220
for continued investment in the many capital projects we have going on around town,

749
00:53:32,380 --> 00:53:37,140
which you heard a little bit about earlier from Chad. Moving on to our benchmarks,

750
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:43,300
our investment policy calls for a weighted average maturity or WAM maximum of 540 days.

751
00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:49,120
for this quarter and in September 30th we had a weighted average maturity of 154 days

752
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:55,060
again showing a little bit more liquid in terms of our investments. The one-year treasury yield,

753
00:53:55,260 --> 00:54:01,580
which serves our benchmark is 3.68% for the quarter and in September 30th, you see our investment yield

754
00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:08,180
there in the blue line of 4.168%. As we are in declining interest rate environment because we of our

755
00:54:08,180 --> 00:54:13,380
mannered investment approach, we tend to stay a little bit above the yields as the interest rates are declining.

756
00:54:15,580 --> 00:54:21,400
You see our maturity ladder there, due to market volatility in that uncertainty we talked about earlier,

757
00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:28,580
the ability to invest funds out into 18 to 24 months has been limited, so we do continue to remain a little bit more liquid,

758
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,140
which we work with our investment advisor and will make changes as we move forward.

759
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,500
All eyes are on the Fed meeting next week.

760
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:41,340
the current federal funds rate is four, and we'll see if there's any for the rate cuts next week.

761
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:43,720
Without that, I have to answer any questions you may have.

762
00:54:44,300 --> 00:54:44,700
Questions?

763
00:54:46,220 --> 00:54:47,780
I'm going to tell you most of the resolution.

764
00:54:48,660 --> 00:54:48,960
So moved.

765
00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:49,420
Second.

766
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,320
Motion made by Councilmember Flores.

767
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:52,460
Seconded by Councilmember Tague.

768
00:54:52,460 --> 00:54:53,320
Any other discussion?

769
00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:55,240
And please vote the council.

770
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:56,900
Councilmember Lee?

771
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:57,620
Yes.

772
00:54:57,900 --> 00:54:58,680
Councilmember Flores?

773
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,000
Yes.

774
00:54:59,480 --> 00:54:59,980
Councilmember Lee?

775
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,280
Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.

776
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,360
Aye.

777
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,340
to you who serves as a city's investment advisor.

778
00:55:26,660 --> 00:55:28,380
Very small changes to the best and policy,

779
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:29,520
so you're no material changer.

780
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:31,260
Just some updates to the broker dealer list

781
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:33,000
to reflect who we're currently working with.

782
00:55:33,380 --> 00:55:34,140
Happy to answer any questions.

783
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:35,280
Questions?

784
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,080
You're taking most out the resolution.

785
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:38,720
So move.

786
00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:39,220
Second.

787
00:55:39,700 --> 00:55:40,960
Motion made by Council Member Atega,

788
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:43,220
seconded by Council Member Fleming and other discussion.

789
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:45,040
And please vote the council.

790
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:46,660
Council Member Flores?

791
00:55:47,020 --> 00:55:47,160
Yes.

792
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,280
Council Member Cleming?

793
00:55:48,580 --> 00:55:48,800
Yes.

794
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,000
Council Member Atega?

795
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,280
Yes.

796
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,320
May I vote Tim Stevens?

797
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:51,700
Yes.

798
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:52,720
Council Member Lee?

799
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,280
Yes.

800
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,080
May I more again?

801
00:55:54,340 --> 00:55:54,500
Yes.

802
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,400
H-11's resolution, cast and votes for the Williamson Central Prasal District Board of Directors.

803
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,940
The W-CAD Board is governed by nine directors.

804
00:56:03,380 --> 00:56:06,580
One of them is our tax-assessor collector Hill, Williamson County, Larry Gattas.

805
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,760
Three members are voted in through the public in general elections, and the remaining five

806
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,160
directors are elected by the taxing entities within the county.

807
00:56:15,860 --> 00:56:21,160
The City of Round Rock has 205 votes out of 5,000 total vote citywide.

808
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,380
those votes are distributed by an amount of taxable value.

809
00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:30,360
There are two board seats that are, that their terms are ending at the end of the calendar year.

810
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,060
Those two incumbents are interested in running the again.

811
00:56:33,180 --> 00:56:36,280
They are two out of the three candidates for this item.

812
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Staff's looking for City Council to choose how to allocate the city's 205 votes

813
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,120
among the three candidates for the two open board positions.

814
00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:46,920
Those will be four year terms beginning January 1st, 2026.

815
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:53,020
All right. Any questions? I don't make I'll make the motion to allow a lot.

816
00:56:54,020 --> 00:56:59,360
Lease the birthment 103 votes and John likes 102. That was second. Second.

817
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:03,180
Motion made by the mayor saying by the mayor of Pro Tem any other discussion?

818
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,480
And please pull the council.

819
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:17,270
Councilmember Fleming. Yes. Councilmember Otega. Yes. We approach him. Stevens. Yes. Councilmember Lee. Yes. Councilmember Flores. Yes. Mayor Morhen. Yes.

820
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:17,450
Yes.

821
00:57:19,070 --> 00:57:25,430
H-12, considered resolution of program of fiscal year 2025, 2026, self-funded health insurance budget.

822
00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:30,630
This resolution adopts our fiscal year's doesn't 26 self-insured health fund budget.

823
00:57:31,070 --> 00:57:35,150
The timing of open enrollment in the plan year, which runs on an annual calendar year basis,

824
00:57:35,550 --> 00:57:40,850
necessitates we bring this budget to council separately from our city wide budget that you adopted back in September.

825
00:57:40,850 --> 00:57:47,210
The proposed expenditure budget for our self-funded health insurance fund is 24,785,000.

826
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:51,290
These expenditures include claims costs for both health claims and pharmacy claims,

827
00:57:51,470 --> 00:57:55,690
funding to operate rock care, these cities employ health panic, and

828
00:57:55,690 --> 00:58:01,230
stop loss reimbursement to limit the city's liability for catastrophic claims and other administrative costs.

829
00:58:01,990 --> 00:58:06,070
You will see that the proposed health fund budget has expenses and excess of projected revenues.

830
00:58:06,070 --> 00:58:10,730
news, Fiscal 2025 was unfortunately a bad year for claims to be ending with more expenses

831
00:58:10,730 --> 00:58:15,850
than projected, which we are carrying forward in projections to Fiscal 2006 to remain

832
00:58:15,850 --> 00:58:19,890
fiscally conservative. Some drivers for that are just cost-trend inflation and increased

833
00:58:19,890 --> 00:58:25,430
pharmacy utilization. Staff will continue to closely monitor claims and program costs as

834
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:30,770
the fiscal year progresses. One of the answer a few questions from Tuesday

835
00:58:30,770 --> 00:58:35,890
morning savings for being self-insured, that 6 to 10% range is still accurate, so those

836
00:58:35,890 --> 00:58:40,190
Those are the estimated savings to the city being self-insured rather than being fully insured

837
00:58:40,190 --> 00:58:44,250
going out to the market and paying premiums to an insurance company.

838
00:58:44,770 --> 00:58:48,070
The savings for rock care, which again is our employee clinic in particular.

839
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:54,150
We have an annual cost of about 825,000 and the estimated cost of the plan providing the

840
00:58:54,150 --> 00:58:59,550
same services that other non-clinic providers would be between 907 and 990,000.

841
00:58:59,690 --> 00:59:02,770
So that's about a 1.1 to 1.2 to 1 return.

842
00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:12,230
I did want to point out one of the perhaps unique things about rock care is any covered employee or the dependents are able to go see care there with zero out of pocket.

843
00:59:12,670 --> 00:59:20,770
So while it's a 1.1 to 1.2% return to the plan as a whole, it is a great benefit that we are able to offer to the covered employees and their dependents.

844
00:59:21,730 --> 00:59:27,190
I did want to point out we work with Holmes Murphy as a city's benefit consultant who

845
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:29,830
helps us with the health fund and I didn't want to point out that David Gibson with

846
00:59:29,830 --> 00:59:32,810
Holmes Murphy is here this evening should you have any hard questions.

847
00:59:33,070 --> 00:59:34,910
That I'm happy answering any easy ones.

848
00:59:35,730 --> 00:59:36,130
Questions?

849
00:59:36,590 --> 00:59:37,250
Councilmember Fleming.

850
00:59:38,050 --> 00:59:42,530
I didn't have any questions but I appreciate you getting that information and I do think

851
00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:45,590
it's a great benefit in knowing that they don't have to worry when they go in about out

852
00:59:45,590 --> 00:59:46,530
of pocket is huge.

853
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:49,750
So I'm glad to know that it's still in line with a better offering.

854
00:59:49,910 --> 00:59:50,050
Yes.

855
00:59:50,050 --> 00:59:51,210
Thank you.

856
00:59:52,270 --> 00:59:53,090
Any other questions?

857
00:59:53,710 --> 00:59:55,230
Is there anything else to want to drop the resolution?

858
00:59:55,610 --> 00:59:55,770
So move.

859
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:56,510
Thank you.

860
00:59:56,730 --> 00:59:57,790
Motion aye, by council Fayette,

861
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:59,130
you guys say goodbye to their city.

862
01:00:00,580 --> 01:00:28,460
And please vote the council. Council Member Atega? Yes. Mayor Poole, Jim Stevens? Yes. Council Member Lee? Yes. Council Member Flores? Yes. Council Member Fleming? Yes. Mayor Morgan? Yes. Ordinances, I want to say, in order to adopt an amendment two to the fiscal year 2425 operating budget, first reading requires two readings. Thank you. Thank you all for being here. Sorry. Excuse me for interrupting. This is our fiscal year 25 year-end cleanup budget amendment.

863
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,660
Again, each year, if any funds end over-appropriate, with expenses over-appropriations, we bring

864
01:00:35,660 --> 01:00:38,000
those before the City Council for a year and budget them to clean up.

865
01:00:38,340 --> 01:00:42,700
The only fund we have that ended the fiscal year over budget was the self-fund health insurance

866
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:45,820
fund due to the same cost drivers we just discussed.

867
01:00:46,340 --> 01:00:50,360
We do have available fund balance and excess of reserves sufficient to cover the overage,

868
01:00:50,580 --> 01:00:53,000
and I did want to answer a question from Tuesday morning.

869
01:00:53,000 --> 01:01:01,320
the change from 2024 actual to 2025 actuals that pushed us up over appropriations was an increase of 19.3%.

870
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:10,060
So you can kind of see, it was an unfortunate bad claims here, and then we had growth from 2025 actuals to the 2026 budget that was just approved of 10%.

871
01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:11,760
Happy answer any additional questions.

872
01:01:13,420 --> 01:01:13,900
Questions?

873
01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:15,280
John Swerner-Flehrer.

874
01:01:16,900 --> 01:01:22,640
So knowing that it was more expensive, and you had the money there to provide for it.

875
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,300
So are you all prepared for this again and kind of taking into account that might see another increase?

876
01:01:27,660 --> 01:01:28,240
They'll get about it.

877
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,360
Yes, certainly.

878
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,960
For this upcoming, through this upcoming year, we plan to do a deep dive on the health insurance fund.

879
01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:42,400
Looking at potential plan changes, potential premium shifts to make sure that this fund stays solvent known to the future.

880
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:48,260
for this budget moment, there is sufficient fund reserves to clean up this fiscal 2025 overage.

881
01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:49,800
Thank you.

882
01:01:50,340 --> 01:01:51,300
Any other questions?

883
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,800
Any time, most of the ordinance?

884
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:54,660
Assembly.

885
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:55,580
Second.

886
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:59,200
Motion made by Councillor McFlaur, second by the Mayor of Pro Tem, any other discussion?

887
01:02:00,220 --> 01:02:01,180
And, please, public council.

888
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:03,260
Mayor of Pro Tem Stevens?

889
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:03,620
Yes.

890
01:02:03,940 --> 01:02:04,660
Council Member Lee?

891
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:05,120
Yes.

892
01:02:05,380 --> 01:02:06,220
Council Member Flores?

893
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:06,580
Yes.

894
01:02:06,860 --> 01:02:07,760
Council Member Clemming?

895
01:02:07,980 --> 01:02:08,140
Yes.

896
01:02:08,420 --> 01:02:09,300
Council Member Atega?

897
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:09,560
Yes.

898
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:25,820
Yes. Mayor Morgan. Yes. Thank you. Kevin. All right. Let's uh I think what we'll do since we got to that pretty quickly will let staff do its presentation and maybe take a couple minute break before the public hearing.

899
01:02:25,820 --> 01:02:32,200
I too, consider public testimony regarding an ordinance rezoning 29.69 acres out of the

900
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:37,300
Willis-Donna Ho Jr. survey, abstract number 173 located on East Oatseller's Boulevard

901
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:41,460
and their insects and North A.W. Grimes Boulevard from the Lied Industrial's Zoning District

902
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,640
to the Plan Unit Development, number 159's Zoning District, first reading.

903
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:46,340
Right?

904
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:48,240
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

905
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:48,800
Good evening.

906
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,780
Item I too is a rezoning for a Plan Unit Development here.

907
01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:56,360
is a 29.69-nacre property at 206-01 East Old Settlers Boulevard.

908
01:02:57,060 --> 01:02:58,320
As you can see on the aerial map,

909
01:02:58,740 --> 01:03:01,260
the property is outlined in this red and white dashed line.

910
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,720
To the south, we have the Chandler Creek Mud single-family subdivision.

911
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,820
To the north, we have some commercial and light industrial development here.

912
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:11,040
To both sides of the east and west, there is more light industrial development.

913
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,780
And also a little bit further off to the east is the homestead

914
01:03:13,780 --> 01:03:15,600
at Old Settlers Park single-family neighborhood.

915
01:03:17,980 --> 01:03:20,800
This property was zoned light industrial in 2023.

916
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:25,060
The applicant seeks to develop the northern portion of the property as a data center.

917
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,100
Data center is not a defined use in our zoning and development code and

918
01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:31,280
necessitating the creation of a planned unit development.

919
01:03:31,780 --> 01:03:35,540
A PUD is a specially negotiated zoning district that applies only to a singular

920
01:03:35,540 --> 01:03:39,460
property due to unique characteristics of the use that seeks to go there.

921
01:03:39,620 --> 01:03:42,940
So we're able to negotiate with the developer to help mitigate some

922
01:03:42,940 --> 01:03:46,800
any incompatibilities or inconsistencies and to create a better product for

923
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,300
the city than might otherwise be allowed by standard zoning.

924
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:54,000
We have 158 or so PUDs in existence in the city.

925
01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:57,340
This is not a new process. It's been in place since the 1980s.

926
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,900
We have a few other PUDs in Round Rock that already entitled data centers.

927
01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:05,700
The first of those is the switch data center, which is down on the Dell campus.

928
01:04:05,860 --> 01:04:08,400
They've already built one building. They've got the second one under construction.

929
01:04:08,940 --> 01:04:11,020
They have entitlement to build a third one in the future.

930
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,060
There's also the SAV data center down off of Lewis Hanna Boulevard.

931
01:04:15,060 --> 01:04:16,680
They have built one building already.

932
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,240
they were actually the first one to finish construction on a building in the first one to open.

933
01:04:20,780 --> 01:04:26,100
Their second one is also under construction. In the southwest part of the city the Amazon

934
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:30,380
property. Right now they're kind of finishing up development of their last mile distribution

935
01:04:30,380 --> 01:04:35,100
facility on the northern half of that property. The southern half of that property is entitled for

936
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:39,640
a data center if they choose to do it. We have no idea if they will or not. They haven't tilted or

937
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:43,760
hinted at any plans of what they're going to do on the southern half. It might be more warehousing.

938
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:44,840
housing, we just don't really know.

939
01:04:46,060 --> 01:04:49,820
And there's one more entitlement on Chism Trail or really in-between Chism Trail and the

940
01:04:49,820 --> 01:04:54,500
southbound frontage road of IH35, south of Old Settler's Boulevard, north of Chism Parkway.

941
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,480
So kind of between the saltgrass stay-couse and the red roof in, there's a large vacant track

942
01:04:59,480 --> 01:04:59,940
on the south.

943
01:05:05,020 --> 01:05:11,320
There's no developer attached to it. No permits have been submitted for that, so we don't know if it ever will come through for development.

944
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:31,680
Let's take a quick moment to address what is a data center. So it is a facility that houses computer servers and other equipment used for cloud computing, artificial intelligence, record storage, and other AI infrastructure. Really, in these days, it is the backbone of the internet and this digital connected world that we are in. They're essential for structure.

945
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,360
streaming e-commerce data processing, they manage all that heavy web traffic.

946
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,140
So almost any time you go on your phone to make a purchase through Amazon or you're sending

947
01:05:39,140 --> 01:05:43,060
emails or you're streaming something on Netflix, most of that web traffic is being routed

948
01:05:43,060 --> 01:05:44,800
through data centers somewhere in the country.

949
01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:50,360
But they have very unique characteristics to their use and to their land or to their development

950
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:55,240
I should say that's worthy of extra scrutiny and so it also records some tailored development

951
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,460
standards that will minimize some of those incompatibilities.

952
01:05:57,460 --> 01:06:01,720
The benefit of doing this through a planned unit development is it gives us, at the city,

953
01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:06,040
the ability to examine each and every one that wants to come to the city, look at its unique

954
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:09,700
characteristics and write developments that apply strictly to that one.

955
01:06:10,180 --> 01:06:14,380
That also gives us better control over where they go in the city and how many are established

956
01:06:14,380 --> 01:06:14,900
in the city.

957
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:19,100
If it was something that was just allowed by rights in the light industrial zoning district,

958
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,760
then there could be a proliferation of it and it wouldn't require any sort of public

959
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,280
process.

960
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,460
by using the planned unit development process,

961
01:06:26,620 --> 01:06:28,800
there's going to be public hearing for every single one.

962
01:06:32,050 --> 01:06:34,130
The Round Rock 2030 Comprehensive Plan

963
01:06:34,130 --> 01:06:37,130
that land use designation for this property is industrial

964
01:06:37,130 --> 01:06:39,890
and the parcel is already zoned for light industrial use.

965
01:06:40,310 --> 01:06:42,970
The PUD proposes a data center with light industrial development

966
01:06:42,970 --> 01:06:44,830
so this is consistent with a guidance

967
01:06:44,830 --> 01:06:45,950
in the comprehensive plan.

968
01:06:46,450 --> 01:06:47,590
It would be a different story, though,

969
01:06:47,610 --> 01:06:49,830
if the developer sought to rezone a residential property

970
01:06:49,830 --> 01:06:52,430
to light industrial or to a light industrial PUD

971
01:06:52,790 --> 01:06:54,330
and it was adjacent to other residential

972
01:06:54,330 --> 01:06:56,430
because that would not conform to our land use guidance

973
01:06:56,430 --> 01:07:01,210
in the comprehensive plan but as it stands it's already an industrial property and so we're

974
01:07:01,210 --> 01:07:02,010
not changing that.

975
01:07:04,890 --> 01:07:07,810
Getting into some of the details of the planned unit development it breaks

976
01:07:07,810 --> 01:07:13,350
out the property into three different parcel areas so here are the permitted uses on the northern half

977
01:07:13,350 --> 01:07:18,670
so for reference we've got old settlers Boulevard on the north here Chandler Creek on the south here

978
01:07:18,670 --> 01:07:23,850
parcel area one is the northern half of the property this is the only location on the property

979
01:07:23,850 --> 01:07:28,330
where a data center could be built if a data center is not built and then it would just be other

980
01:07:28,330 --> 01:07:32,430
or light industrial development such as office, warehouse, freight, movement, those kinds of things.

981
01:07:33,410 --> 01:07:40,590
Partial area two, roughly the southern half of the property, including a very large overhead easement for some electric transmission lines.

982
01:07:41,410 --> 01:07:43,510
Light industrial development is permitted there.

983
01:07:43,850 --> 01:07:50,330
If a data center is developed on parcel area one, then a substation, an electric substation could be built on parcel area two.

984
01:07:50,690 --> 01:07:55,850
If there is no data center built on parcel area one, then the substation could not be built on parcel area two.

985
01:07:55,850 --> 01:07:57,990
it would just be more like industrial development.

986
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:05,360
Partial area three to this out is an 80 foot wide development setback, essentially a development

987
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,900
reserve, so no buildings, no structures, no parking.

988
01:08:09,420 --> 01:08:13,060
There could be some stormwater infrastructure if the developers saw it fit through their

989
01:08:13,060 --> 01:08:13,900
engineering studies.

990
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:19,660
It also includes a 20 foot wide, excuse me, foot wide landscape buffer along the southern

991
01:08:19,660 --> 01:08:23,940
property line with compatibility measures there, including a wall and some landscaping

992
01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:24,560
that we'll get into.

993
01:08:27,820 --> 01:08:32,980
In parcel areas 1 and 2, we are looking to prohibit some uses that are currently allowed

994
01:08:32,980 --> 01:08:34,720
in the light industrial zoning district.

995
01:08:34,940 --> 01:08:38,760
So we can do that with this PUD because we can tailor all the development standards

996
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,900
and all the permitted uses through this process.

997
01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:45,040
So all of these land uses that are listed here and I'm not going to list them all or read

998
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,000
through the list, these are all currently permitted on this property.

999
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:52,340
We're using the PUD as a way to take them out so that they could no longer be built if

1000
01:08:52,340 --> 01:08:53,240
the PUD is adopted.

1001
01:08:53,240 --> 01:09:03,640
So, it would still allow some light industrial development, again, office warehouse, some light manufacturing, everything that would have to occur inside of a building though, as well as the data center on parcel area one.

1002
01:09:04,820 --> 01:09:15,000
Right, real quick. Well, you've got that list up there. So, right now, if we weren't to do anything, would any of this have to come before the council to get entitled or?

1003
01:09:15,480 --> 01:09:19,820
No, there would be no public process or public hearing. It's strictly an administrative review process.

1004
01:09:25,790 --> 01:09:30,530
Focusing on parcel area one, the development standards that we have in the PUD for this,

1005
01:09:30,770 --> 01:09:34,870
the one that's most worth noting is that the data center must use a closed loop cooling

1006
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:37,450
system that minimize potable water use.

1007
01:09:37,890 --> 01:09:41,950
So the way this works is that there's an initial draw from the city's water supply, in this

1008
01:09:41,950 --> 01:09:46,670
case for a development, proposed development of this size, it's about 10,000 gallons, roughly

1009
01:09:46,670 --> 01:09:48,310
the size of a residential swimming pool.

1010
01:09:48,770 --> 01:09:53,030
They fill the system, they close it off, and they're able to recirculate that water for their

1011
01:09:53,030 --> 01:09:57,770
cooling needs almost indefinitely. They need to do some topping off every couple

1012
01:09:57,770 --> 01:09:59,970
years every few years is very rare.

1013
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,980
I'm sorry that they would need to do a full refill, but it allows them to just recirculate that and they don't have to have essentially a straw into the city's water supply, constantly pulling up fresh water for that. So really, the only, the primary use of potable water on site is for the restroom fixtures, sink, break room, and irrigation. So when you add it all up, we've been able to study one of the existing data centers in town already. Their annual water use is equivalent to just 12 to 15 single-family homes. And this is great because about five years ago,

1014
01:10:29,980 --> 01:10:36,220
So that was not the case and this will be a very different conversation we'd be having today under the old technology of evaporative cooling

1015
01:10:36,220 --> 01:10:41,480
That's when they had a large straw into the city's water main constantly pulling fresh water

1016
01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:45,740
You're looking at hundreds of thousands of gallons if not millions of gallons of water a day

1017
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:52,280
Thankfully the technology has progressed to a point where the closed loop cooling is much more efficient for them

1018
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,720
And think it's much more efficient for us as well

1019
01:10:57,820 --> 01:11:12,600
No minimum parking requirement for the data center, the developer will provide as many spaces as they need to accommodate anticipated employee count onsite at the planning and zoning commission meeting last month they stated that would probably be somewhere in the 30 to 60 range, including employees and onsite technicians.

1020
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:21,120
If the property is developed as something other than a data center such as office space or light industrial, it has to be parked per our standard code requirement.

1021
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:27,280
And we also have a restriction in here both in parcel areas one and two that loading docs for any light industrial uses

1022
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:31,480
Shall not face the southern property line. They have to be oriented away from the neighborhood

1023
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:33,640
But let me let me go back to

1024
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:37,600
If it's if you had a warehouse center right now that came in there

1025
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:42,460
UPS FedEx they can put the garages anywhere right?

1026
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:43,080
They would be

1027
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,740
Lied industrial legally they would be allowed to go ahead

1028
01:11:48,690 --> 01:11:52,650
Street side landscaping is required to be planted a long old settler's

1029
01:11:52,650 --> 01:11:56,070
boulevard outside the public utility easement outside of other easements as well.

1030
01:11:56,790 --> 01:12:00,930
And so that's a formula consisting of a large species, trees and shrubs that are planted

1031
01:12:00,930 --> 01:12:04,750
along that right of way to help beautify the site, provide greenery.

1032
01:12:05,850 --> 01:12:08,310
And so we also have building design standards in the PUD.

1033
01:12:08,890 --> 01:12:12,590
In accordance with the light industrial zoning district, but we also have some extra standards

1034
01:12:12,590 --> 01:12:16,490
in here for building the sides that face old settlers boulevard to help prevent this from

1035
01:12:16,490 --> 01:12:18,950
just kind of being a boring unarticulated box.

1036
01:12:21,870 --> 01:12:24,170
Data centers are very secure facilities.

1037
01:12:24,170 --> 01:12:27,190
These, they desire perimeter walls for that security.

1038
01:12:27,710 --> 01:12:31,490
We have requirements for that in the PUD, allowing ornamental iron or

1039
01:12:31,490 --> 01:12:33,810
other decorative view fencing if they so wish.

1040
01:12:34,130 --> 01:12:35,830
They can also choose to do a masonry wall.

1041
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:40,710
They are required, however, to screen their mechanical equipment yards.

1042
01:12:41,290 --> 01:12:44,570
So all data centers will have a mechanical equipment yard where they have generators,

1043
01:12:45,070 --> 01:12:47,270
where they have shipping and receiving, loading areas.

1044
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:52,990
And so those have to be screened from the outsider, from public view by a wall with a minimum height of eight feet.

1045
01:12:52,990 --> 01:12:54,830
and a maximum height of 20 feet.

1046
01:12:55,190 --> 01:12:56,870
This also helps to mitigate some noise

1047
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:58,430
that might be coming from those loading areas

1048
01:12:58,430 --> 01:12:59,550
or from those generators.

1049
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,560
Moving on to parcel area two,

1050
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,620
there's no minimum parking requirement

1051
01:13:06,620 --> 01:13:08,940
if an electric substation is established down here,

1052
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:11,280
but again, just like on the other parcel area,

1053
01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:13,320
if there's office space, if there's warehousing,

1054
01:13:13,660 --> 01:13:15,200
other uses they have to be parked

1055
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,340
in accordance with the standard code requirement.

1056
01:13:17,820 --> 01:13:20,520
And again, loading docs cannot face the seven property line.

1057
01:13:23,770 --> 01:13:25,650
Any electric substation has to be enclosed

1058
01:13:25,650 --> 01:13:27,410
with an opaque perimeter wall,

1059
01:13:27,410 --> 01:13:30,950
Similar to the mechanical yards for a data center, it's a minimum height of eight feet

1060
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:34,590
at maximum height of 20 feet, that finished face of the wall has to be oriented towards

1061
01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:39,490
the right away in adjacent properties, and we do have a prescribed list of the acceptable

1062
01:13:39,490 --> 01:13:40,850
building materials for that wall.

1063
01:13:41,330 --> 01:13:45,950
Additionally, there needs to be a row of medium species evergreen trees planted around that

1064
01:13:45,950 --> 01:13:46,730
substation wall.

1065
01:13:49,230 --> 01:13:54,090
Moving on to partial area three, again, this is the 80 foot wide development setback along

1066
01:13:54,090 --> 01:13:57,950
the southern property line, the first 25 feet of which is a landscape buffer, something that

1067
01:13:57,950 --> 01:14:03,330
we call a compatibility buffer so that consists of an 8-foot tall opaque masonry wall along

1068
01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:07,510
the property line. And then on the other side of that we have 25 feet for a landscape

1069
01:14:07,510 --> 01:14:13,070
buffer where we require large and medium species evergreen trees. The evergreen component

1070
01:14:13,070 --> 01:14:17,010
is really important here because if you have deciduous trees there for several months out

1071
01:14:17,010 --> 01:14:20,570
of the year, they're going to be lacking the same screening impact that they would have if

1072
01:14:20,570 --> 01:14:25,610
we were an evergreen tree. The remainder of parcel area 3 could include some stormwater

1073
01:14:25,610 --> 01:14:30,610
infrastructure, but again no parking, no dumpsters, no buildings, it's essentially green space.

1074
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:39,280
Up to three driveways are going to be allowed for this property, but we look at those, we look at the design

1075
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:43,360
and the location of those at the time of the site development permit when that submitted for our review.

1076
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:48,680
But most importantly, we are restricting access to or through the neighborhood to the south.

1077
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,100
So there is a dead end street that comes into the southern property line.

1078
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:56,220
Under different development scenarios as possible that road would have been punched through.

1079
01:14:56,220 --> 01:14:59,980
In this case, we're restricting that and so this project will not have a

1080
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,600
We have access to the Chandler Creek subdivision to the south.

1081
01:15:05,470 --> 01:15:29,470
A little bit of a comparison that we've got here between existing data centers and was proposed. So first up, we have the SAV data center building one, which is the one you see here, 30 megawatt facility. They also have that's kind of on the south side closer to Louisiana. They're going to be building number two right here. It's currently underway. This is just a bit of an old aerial. That's a 54 megawatt facility. I try to draw some dimensional standards on here.

1082
01:15:29,470 --> 01:15:38,010
So you can see a distance between the electric substation that was built on this property about 200 feet away from the nearest single-family home there building number two

1083
01:15:38,010 --> 01:15:43,690
This is roughly about where that footprint is going to be little over 300 feet to the nearest home over here

1084
01:15:43,690 --> 01:15:48,870
And then this 90 foot is just to indicate the distance to the property line and over here you just have

1085
01:15:50,010 --> 01:15:52,110
The architectural drawing or the landscape drawing

1086
01:15:52,110 --> 01:15:53,250
I should say of where the

1087
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:59,450
Masonry screening wall is located for that substation and then in the green is where the landscape plantings are going

1088
01:15:59,450 --> 01:16:00,930
to be to help screen some of that.

1089
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,960
The switch data center, so we can recognize Del's,

1090
01:16:05,980 --> 01:16:07,340
I like to call it their starship,

1091
01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:08,660
building, I don't know what they call it,

1092
01:16:08,660 --> 01:16:10,880
but the first building for a switch is on the left side

1093
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,300
over here, the second building is underway right here.

1094
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,200
We have 200 feet of separation from this home

1095
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,060
in Southern Terrace to the corner of the building right here.

1096
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:21,220
About 90 feet from a home here too,

1097
01:16:21,340 --> 01:16:23,480
where we think the perimeter wall that is going to be built

1098
01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:25,680
and then over here in Kensington Place,

1099
01:16:25,860 --> 01:16:28,500
we have about 290 feet from the residential property line

1100
01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:32,000
to approximately where the outer perimeter wall of building two is going to be.

1101
01:16:32,540 --> 01:16:36,400
And this is how it looks from the Delway frontage right now with those freshly planted trees

1102
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,980
which obviously still small but they do grow.

1103
01:16:42,130 --> 01:16:44,650
And I guess also it would be, if I can go back a little bit

1104
01:16:44,650 --> 01:16:48,890
to show some of that development set back here, I don't have it dimensioned

1105
01:16:48,890 --> 01:16:50,670
but I can have other maps later.

1106
01:16:51,190 --> 01:16:52,890
So kind of how does that translate?

1107
01:16:53,070 --> 01:16:56,630
How does that compare between savey, between switch to the proposal that we have here

1108
01:16:56,630 --> 01:17:01,950
from sky box, while by requiring any data centers to be on parcel area one, you're guaranteeing

1109
01:17:01,950 --> 01:17:08,970
at least 500 feet, but since the property line is somewhat a skew and not exactly on

1110
01:17:08,970 --> 01:17:13,670
that same axis, at least 500 feet, getting over as of 1,000 feet of separation between that

1111
01:17:13,670 --> 01:17:18,250
data center and the nearest single-family home, and it's even more than that for the Homestead

1112
01:17:18,250 --> 01:17:20,270
adult settler single-family neighborhood to the east.

1113
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:28,740
Other considerations, power, I mean, I'm not going to sugar code it, these things use

1114
01:17:28,740 --> 01:17:33,160
a whole lot of power. You know, a 50 megawatt facility might use the same amount of power

1115
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:37,840
as 20,000 single-family homes. We're not going to try and ignore that. The bottom line though

1116
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:42,620
is that this thing doesn't get built if the power supply is not there. This thing doesn't get built

1117
01:17:42,620 --> 01:17:48,360
if it will hinder the reliability of the local grid. So that is the responsibility of Encore,

1118
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:52,380
the distribution manager and the owner of all the distribution lines in the area.

1119
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:56,900
It's the responsibility of Ircott and it's the responsibility of the PUC. I understand,

1120
01:17:56,900 --> 01:18:00,880
been going back a few years, a lot of people might not have a lot of confidence in those

1121
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,820
bodies, but to their credit, the state legislature has plugged some of those holes, including

1122
01:18:04,820 --> 01:18:09,840
most recently, so it's a very different regulatory environment now for large power users like

1123
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,060
these than it used to be just a few years ago.

1124
01:18:12,940 --> 01:18:17,840
Additionally, if there are any upgrades required to that local infrastructure to serve this development,

1125
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,320
this development is on the hook financially for those upgrades.

1126
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:32,480
The city's noise ordinance will apply to this project both during construction and once it's open and operational, they have generators for backup power.

1127
01:18:32,620 --> 01:18:38,020
Those usually need to be tested monthly. They have told us that they're only going to be doing that during the daytime.

1128
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,460
It's usually 30 minutes to an hour.

1129
01:18:41,580 --> 01:18:48,380
And so, you know, looking at maybe 12 hours per month of, sorry, 12 hours per year when those generators going to be up and running.

1130
01:18:48,380 --> 01:18:50,120
unless there's a power cottage, of course,

1131
01:18:50,340 --> 01:18:52,300
when those generators will kick on.

1132
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,920
And as far as I'm aware, the city has not received

1133
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:58,560
any noise complaints on the savey

1134
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,800
or switch data centers that have been operational.

1135
01:19:03,010 --> 01:19:05,030
When it comes to lighting, the zoning and development code

1136
01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:07,230
regulates fixture height, especially when you get closer

1137
01:19:07,230 --> 01:19:08,370
to a single-family neighborhood.

1138
01:19:08,830 --> 01:19:10,910
It regulates light trespass to ensure

1139
01:19:10,910 --> 01:19:12,910
that you're not unnecessarily illuminating

1140
01:19:12,910 --> 01:19:14,750
neighboring properties or the right of way.

1141
01:19:15,130 --> 01:19:16,390
And we also have shielding requirements.

1142
01:19:16,610 --> 01:19:18,290
If it is determined that light is,

1143
01:19:18,810 --> 01:19:23,550
There's too much light shining in one direction we can require that developer to shield those lights.

1144
01:19:23,870 --> 01:19:26,770
So we don't have to worry about this being lit up like the Griswaltz house.

1145
01:19:28,350 --> 01:19:35,410
Property taxes, I usually don't include information like this in a zoning scenario or a zoning case.

1146
01:19:36,010 --> 01:19:41,310
And the planning and development services or department is really not part of our calculus when we're going through this.

1147
01:19:41,410 --> 01:19:42,750
We're looking at the comprehensive plan.

1148
01:19:43,190 --> 01:19:45,970
We're looking at the land use, we're looking at highs and best use for a property.

1149
01:19:45,970 --> 01:19:59,970
We're not really concerned with property taxes, but in the interest of providing the fullest picture possible to the decision makers and to the policy makers, I think it's an important thing to highlight in this case, especially since we have data from the real world from an existing day.

1150
01:20:01,740 --> 01:20:29,300
So, what we've revealed is that the Sabi data center has an extremely low cost to serve that property compared with the revenue that we get back from it. So, the first building at the Sabi data center is as large in terms of square footage as 100 single-family homes. It only requires the equivalent services of 15 single-family homes, and in the meantime, it returns money back to the city in form of property taxes equivalent to over 500 homes.

1151
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:34,840
So it is part of the city's strategic plan to be a financially sound city providing high value services.

1152
01:20:35,340 --> 01:20:43,640
It's, you know, per on a per acre basis, it's tough to find something that provides more value to the city and to the general fund than a data center as we've seen here.

1153
01:20:47,020 --> 01:20:51,880
So if approved, the planned unit development becomes the regulating document for development of the property.

1154
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:58,500
Anything that's not specifically outlined in the PUD just defaults to the base zoning and development code in the light industrial zoning district.

1155
01:20:58,500 --> 01:21:02,860
district. If it's not approved, the existing light industrial zoning remains in place.

1156
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:07,760
So there would be an 8-foot wide landscape buffer along the southern property line in

1157
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:12,060
the PUD that proposes 25 feet. There would be a 6-foot tall wall along the southern property

1158
01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:17,140
line as opposed to 8-foot tall as proposed in the PUD. All land uses allowed in the LI zoning

1159
01:21:17,140 --> 01:21:22,280
district could be built here, whereas the PUD restricts many of those uses. And there's an

1160
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:27,660
80-foot building setback from the neighborhood where there is effectively in the PUD a 500-plus

1161
01:21:27,660 --> 01:21:32,400
billings setback. Additionally, parking and dumpsters would be allowed in that 80-foot building

1162
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:37,140
setback that is just a base code standard because the building setback only applies to buildings,

1163
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:42,160
not to other surface-level improvements. However, the PUD prohibits these in parcel area 3 here in

1164
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,540
that first 80 feet on the south.

1165
01:21:45,750 --> 01:21:47,890
This went to the Planning and Zoning Commission last month and

1166
01:21:47,890 --> 01:21:52,110
was unanimously recommended for approval. We did not have any speakers at the public hearing.

1167
01:21:52,490 --> 01:21:56,470
Prior to the hearing, we exchanged emails with a resident of the Meadows at Chandler Creek mud,

1168
01:21:56,470 --> 01:22:00,590
sub-division, they had concerns about a potential vehicular connection through the neighborhood,

1169
01:22:01,130 --> 01:22:05,690
loss of wildlife, habitat, noise and light pollution, manufacturing pollution, and other impacts

1170
01:22:05,690 --> 01:22:10,830
that just simply arise from development close to a neighborhood. And staff recommends approval.

1171
01:22:11,090 --> 01:22:15,370
I'll be happy to answer any questions you've got. We have William Schaden of Skybox. The applicant

1172
01:22:15,370 --> 01:22:19,630
is here as well as the civil engineer, CJ Ponson, and they'll be able to answer any questions you have

1173
01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:26,390
regarding the operations of a data center and the engineering of the site. Okay. Any questions

1174
01:22:29,350 --> 01:22:36,610
I just wanted to revisit the issue of electricity and I know that you said there's new state regulations

1175
01:22:36,610 --> 01:22:41,410
that also protects the systems more but I know especially like when we had the big freeze

1176
01:22:41,410 --> 01:22:45,730
and people with that electricity and I think it's probably still a fear of all of ours that will

1177
01:22:45,730 --> 01:22:52,430
be in that situation again. So from what I understand if there's an issue with electricity it falls

1178
01:22:52,430 --> 01:22:59,630
First, who are residents that the data centers would kind of go to their generators and not use their sources if it's going to impact ours at all

1179
01:22:59,630 --> 01:23:03,770
Is that correct? That is my understanding, but I think also the applicant can answer that as well

1180
01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:12,270
There is an new state law that I know that does takes off the high energy users. I if that's you know a data center

1181
01:23:12,270 --> 01:23:18,750
And we can we'll get the applicant up in a second. Okay, other questions over here

1182
01:23:19,870 --> 01:23:21,510
Questions over here

1183
01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:24,570
Mayor Protein.

1184
01:23:24,670 --> 01:23:25,870
Just a couple questions.

1185
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:30,610
So if it went back to light industrial,

1186
01:23:30,890 --> 01:23:34,250
what is the building height limit on those kind of buildings?

1187
01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:37,070
Just regular light industrial doesn't come back to us.

1188
01:23:38,150 --> 01:23:41,550
I'm trying to think, so I think we have a requirement of just two stories,

1189
01:23:41,550 --> 01:23:44,130
but there's not necessarily a number of feet attached to that.

1190
01:23:44,230 --> 01:23:47,850
So sometimes light industrial building could be 50 feet tall for a single story,

1191
01:23:47,850 --> 01:23:51,890
because they have high ceilings to account for storage or manufacturing activities.

1192
01:23:51,890 --> 01:23:56,250
So, you could be looking at 80 to 100 feet in height potentially for a light industrial,

1193
01:23:56,450 --> 01:23:58,370
just built in the base light industrial zoning district.

1194
01:23:58,590 --> 01:23:59,430
But two stories?

1195
01:23:59,730 --> 01:23:59,890
Yes.

1196
01:24:00,090 --> 01:24:00,370
Two stories.

1197
01:24:00,870 --> 01:24:03,410
With a setback of how far away from the property line?

1198
01:24:03,690 --> 01:24:04,050
80 feet.

1199
01:24:04,110 --> 01:24:04,350
80 feet.

1200
01:24:04,350 --> 01:24:05,230
80 feet.

1201
01:24:05,230 --> 01:24:10,110
Um, those trees that are being required to put in, um, is there a height requirement when

1202
01:24:10,110 --> 01:24:13,750
they're coming in just to make sure that, you know, you're not putting these little guys

1203
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:16,590
that are going to take 50 years to grow and promote stuff on them?

1204
01:24:16,590 --> 01:24:16,610
Yes.

1205
01:24:16,610 --> 01:24:21,050
We do require that all large species trees that are planted have been in a measurement of

1206
01:24:21,050 --> 01:24:28,350
three inches of caliper, you know, the trunk at time of planting, but also a minimum height of 10 feet and a minimum spread of six feet.

1207
01:24:29,070 --> 01:24:33,890
Last question, since we do have switch and say the on the ground and they've been here for a while,

1208
01:24:33,990 --> 01:24:41,130
is there any data that shows that either one of those has increased or led to an increase in water rates or electricity rates for our customers?

1209
01:24:41,690 --> 01:24:41,830
No.

1210
01:24:42,270 --> 01:24:42,530
Thank you.

1211
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,380
Any other questions or comments?

1212
01:24:49,950 --> 01:24:53,580
You want to come up and say anything about with regards to the, I'm talking to the

1213
01:24:53,580 --> 01:24:59,940
applicant about the question about kind of state regulations and all that that have

1214
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,220
I'm kind of going into place. Yes, sir. William Shannon, Skybuck's data centers. I appreciate you all being here this evening. That's correct. So in the recent legislative session, it was Senate Bill 6, which passed, and there's pretty sweeping reform for these large load users like data centers. And it prioritizes reliability, right, for the customers across Texas homeowners. And for these buildings that are very large consumers, there's a lot of measures taken in an extreme event.

1215
01:25:29,220 --> 01:25:35,100
And first, they have backup generation, so they're able to, you know, turn off and leave more electricity for homeowners and the like.

1216
01:25:35,980 --> 01:25:41,360
And there's a number of other kind of protections that are being rolled out based on that legislation that was passed.

1217
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:52,520
I don't know if you know this, so if I understand it correctly, if on court is the one that would require you to build a substation, or is that get built no matter what?

1218
01:25:54,120 --> 01:26:00,580
They would require it, so in layman's terms, the line running across that property is 138,000 volts.

1219
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:04,980
Think of a TV remote that has a volt and a half battery in it, AAA.

1220
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:12,980
So we have to take electricity at 143,000 volts and break it down through a substation to transform or switch gear

1221
01:26:13,300 --> 01:26:20,220
to go into the building and ultimately power computing equipment that's taking voltages closer to like a TV remote or a home TV.

1222
01:26:20,220 --> 01:26:31,500
And so that facility is really facilitating, taking a very high voltage from the existing line to break it down to basically a digestible level for the computing equipment inside this building.

1223
01:26:32,300 --> 01:26:41,520
Does any of that, you know, there's a pretty big electrical substation right next to this piece of property between old settlers.

1224
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:47,820
I mean, just to the west, just to the west, does that play into any kind of factor with

1225
01:26:47,820 --> 01:26:48,080
y'all?

1226
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:57,140
I mean, only that there is a 345 killable line that will be extended from that station

1227
01:26:57,140 --> 01:26:58,100
to the east.

1228
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:05,940
And you know, there's just a lot of upgrades in the north Austin metropolitan area and

1229
01:27:05,940 --> 01:27:07,080
and round rock up through Georgetown

1230
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,080
that are happening today.

1231
01:27:09,020 --> 01:27:12,360
And so it's looked at holistically

1232
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,300
and ERCOT is the ultimate overseer of the grid

1233
01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:16,600
in the state of Texas.

1234
01:27:17,380 --> 01:27:18,660
But yes, that being there,

1235
01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:20,980
I would say is part of a larger map

1236
01:27:20,980 --> 01:27:24,160
and is ERCOT and on core looking at requests,

1237
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,880
like potentially the one that we would have in

1238
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:27,660
for this facility.

1239
01:27:29,500 --> 01:27:31,320
They're very carefully considering

1240
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:32,820
all of the different major projects

1241
01:27:32,820 --> 01:27:34,940
across the area to ensure grid reliability

1242
01:27:34,940 --> 01:27:46,740
And a lot of the upgrades that are being made for these facilities are actually strengthening the grid in this area because there is just so much investment and they're able to get such heavy investment out of data center developers.

1243
01:27:48,260 --> 01:27:54,140
Did it has just allowed them to really build out a very robust infrastructure in the process?

1244
01:27:54,140 --> 01:28:09,960
Okay. All right. I think anybody else have any question? Councilmember Fuller. So for question for the applicant, if if by chance a substation is required is that's more than 100% by you. Is that, am I, is that correct?

1245
01:28:10,300 --> 01:28:13,060
Yes, sir. It would either be us or a combination of us and on core.

1246
01:28:17,780 --> 01:28:25,240
I don't know if you've this far along but has on court committed to the power on that project.

1247
01:28:25,660 --> 01:28:26,160
They have not.

1248
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,420
So we are in advanced discussions.

1249
01:28:28,420 --> 01:28:31,100
We have facilities under construction in Flueger, Bill and Hado.

1250
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:36,220
They tie into a broader kind of network in this, you know, call it 50 mile radius area.

1251
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:41,300
And so we have, you know, very active conversations with them and feel like there's a good path

1252
01:28:41,300 --> 01:28:41,600
here.

1253
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:51,100
And started conversations with city staff months ago who've been wonderful to work with advancing this rezoning application kind of seeing, you know, skating to the park.

1254
01:28:51,960 --> 01:29:05,620
You'd say and that there was going to be an excess of electricity here and we could bring a facility here that would be a much less dense development than what's approved today with light industrial and really a big tax based booster.

1255
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,340
And so we have been for months working through this.

1256
01:29:09,060 --> 01:29:16,680
And as a developer, you cannot go forward with the data center unless you get commitment from Moncord that they can supply you.

1257
01:29:17,020 --> 01:29:18,820
Yes, sir, that's absolutely correct.

1258
01:29:18,980 --> 01:29:34,960
We don't build buildings without a commitment from Moncord and almost all of the time without a commitment from a major company as a tenant that's going to commit to a long-term lease, paying rent, paying operating expenses, and bringing a lot of investment to the projects that we're building.

1259
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:44,100
final question. Skybox, do you operate other data centers now? Where, how many?

1260
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,980
Yes, sir, we do. It's largely been born. We have a company called Skybox

1261
01:29:49,980 --> 01:29:54,140
Critical Operations, which is an operating company for the facilities that we are

1262
01:29:54,140 --> 01:29:57,960
building and customers because of the complexity of these facilities have

1263
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,980
basically requested that we

1264
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:27,140
We set up a company that, because we have built them, we know the ins and outs of how they work and operate. And so, that company is, I want to say around 50 employees. And it is all facilities that we have built. I think there's four or five of them at this point with a few that are under construction today. And it's a complex operation, but having built these facilities, we kind of have the inside track to really understand how to operate them day in and out.

1265
01:30:27,140 --> 01:30:34,740
Do those facilities operate in Texas or the central Texas area or they do so we have three buildings in

1266
01:30:34,740 --> 01:30:39,940
Hado, all of which are under construction. Two in Fluegerville, one that was recently completed,

1267
01:30:40,020 --> 01:30:44,440
one that will be completed in the first quarter of next year. So we're extremely familiar with the

1268
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:49,060
area or how to construction is actually a graduate of Round Rock High School. So he's spent a lot of

1269
01:30:49,060 --> 01:30:56,320
time out here on the ground. Our folks are in the field. I mean, our CEOs and the construction

1270
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,180
option trailer two to three days a week down here.

1271
01:30:58,780 --> 01:30:59,740
Yeah, thank you.

1272
01:30:59,820 --> 01:31:00,240
Yes, sir.

1273
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:01,620
Any other questions?

1274
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:03,620
Councilmember Taiga?

1275
01:31:04,420 --> 01:31:05,140
I have one here.

1276
01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:07,820
And this was sent to me before the meeting

1277
01:31:08,380 --> 01:31:09,740
from a consistent or mine.

1278
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,360
They're asking about monitoring air quality.

1279
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,600
I don't know how that would pertain to this or not,

1280
01:31:17,700 --> 01:31:20,140
because I'm not familiar how that works in this area

1281
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,340
for this particular project before or after

1282
01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:28,980
are doing during the construction, is that something that you all take into consideration?

1283
01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:30,940
Yes, there it is.

1284
01:31:31,220 --> 01:31:36,160
And so where it comes into play is these buildings have backup generators that sit on the exterior

1285
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:36,820
of the building.

1286
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:41,340
So the technology companies have hundreds of millions of dollars of computing equipment that

1287
01:31:41,340 --> 01:31:45,900
they want to be operational 365 days of the year 24 hours a day.

1288
01:31:46,460 --> 01:31:51,980
And so those backup generators most of the time are diesel-fueled, and while they would

1289
01:31:51,980 --> 01:31:56,080
not typically run for more than an hour each month being tested.

1290
01:31:56,620 --> 01:32:02,420
If there was a severe set of circumstances and they needed to be turned on for a few days,

1291
01:32:03,140 --> 01:32:09,340
the emissions are subject to CCEQ, the Texas Commission for Environmental Quality regulations.

1292
01:32:09,820 --> 01:32:15,440
And so we have to model what those emissions could be for generally around a week.

1293
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:20,260
That's kind of the base assumption that if there was an event it would be no more probably

1294
01:32:20,260 --> 01:32:22,020
than a week of those running in a year.

1295
01:32:22,620 --> 01:32:24,760
What's the emissions associated with that occurring?

1296
01:32:25,580 --> 01:32:30,880
And the EPA designates different, more densely populated portions of the United States's

1297
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,980
categories of where they want to limit emissions more, where there are a lot of people just to

1298
01:32:35,980 --> 01:32:44,060
keep from pollution really proliferating around and so it requires, I would say, permitting

1299
01:32:44,060 --> 01:32:47,120
that we have to run through the Texas Commission for environmental quality.

1300
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,540
And yeah,

1301
01:32:51,820 --> 01:32:56,720
that's really the primary component of where that comes into play, but it's something that we look at very closely.

1302
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,080
Another question for you.

1303
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,720
Because we all know technology is changing so quickly.

1304
01:33:02,300 --> 01:33:04,420
I mean, our iPhones are a good example of that.

1305
01:33:05,060 --> 01:33:05,340
Yes, sir.

1306
01:33:05,420 --> 01:33:09,860
Technology in your field, is that changing rapidly?

1307
01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:12,580
Or at some point, I'll use an example.

1308
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:14,620
The water that's recirculated.

1309
01:33:14,620 --> 01:33:20,220
Is that something that we are seeing now that at some point you won't even need that because you've got

1310
01:33:20,780 --> 01:33:22,440
Technology that's going to replace that

1311
01:33:23,540 --> 01:33:24,060
I

1312
01:33:24,060 --> 01:33:24,620
Think

1313
01:33:25,580 --> 01:33:29,660
The rezoning application before council is even in requires a closed loop system

1314
01:33:29,660 --> 01:33:35,380
Which is where the technology is trended because it is so much more environmentally friendly and so less wasteful of water

1315
01:33:35,380 --> 01:33:39,260
It's the style system that our firm has employed since day one and

1316
01:33:39,260 --> 01:33:44,320
And when staff recommended or staff requested that we included in this zoning application,

1317
01:33:44,500 --> 01:34:06,740
we're impressed that they had that level of knowledge and I would tell you more people are shifting that direction because they acknowledge the scarcity of water and they are also improving, improving the efficiency of how those systems work and they used to really not be close to as efficient as what they referred to as the non-close system, the evaporative system that was, you know, one that uses millions of gallons a day.

1318
01:34:06,740 --> 01:34:16,720
But I think it's more that you have a more widespread adoption of the system that staff has required that we put into the rezoning application before Council this evening.

1319
01:34:17,220 --> 01:34:17,820
Thank you.

1320
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:18,460
Yes, sir.

1321
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:29,600
Yeah, I think that, you know, in Brad's slide that, you know, I think what's yet to look at is that you're talking about the water usage of 15 homes on an annual basis.

1322
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:58,320
And then to equate that value, you're talking about an additional 500 homes to make up that value which means more roads, more traffic, more schools, you know, so I mean the tax revenue, I mean, one thing that, you know, we've always kind of pride ourselves on is that we have a good mix of business with residential, you know, as we always like to say, you know, 93% of our properties are residential property.

1323
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,760
7%

1324
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:29,480
Is commercial? Of that 7%, almost 47%, 48% of the property tax revenue comes from those big, big companies. If we didn't have that, then their tax rate wouldn't be one of the lowest and central taxes or the state of taxes. So, you know, it, you know, there, we received a lot of emails about, you know, it doesn't have a lot of jobs, you know, but I think what people have realized with economic development, it also means capital investment. And so,

1325
01:35:29,480 --> 01:35:39,100
So to try to get that right mix, you know, you put a warehouse there with a traffic, you

1326
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:48,020
know, UPS FedEx, you know, it'll never make up the difference that, you know, a big facility

1327
01:35:48,020 --> 01:35:52,200
like this or facility like yours with the capital investment will do.

1328
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:53,400
Yes, sir.

1329
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:58,040
I mean, when we started in Hado 4 years ago, it was farmland and it has exploded, right?

1330
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:04,860
And it's homes, it's retail, it's, you know, there's thousands of workers on site daily on our project at this point so.

1331
01:36:05,900 --> 01:36:16,500
Right. When I think that, you know, as, as, you know, that's been mentioned and talked about, you know, they're going to go out in the county if they're not going to be here in the city.

1332
01:36:17,060 --> 01:36:24,700
So they're, you know, it still has the same issues with with electric. Then you have, you know, probably more issues with trying to find water.

1333
01:36:24,700 --> 01:36:29,820
and then you also have no development standards out in the county.

1334
01:36:30,380 --> 01:36:37,180
They can be built however whenever they won't and so you know if you can do

1335
01:36:37,180 --> 01:36:43,380
things to try to have some control over it and make sure that you know it has

1336
01:36:43,380 --> 01:36:49,860
the right mix with business and residential you know it is something that helps

1337
01:36:49,860 --> 01:36:54,600
our citizens and benefits them with their property taxes and look number

1338
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:59,880
one thing we always hear is about affordability. And we always hear about, you know, taxes,

1339
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:07,180
profit taxes and stuff. And so, you know, when we can do anything to help maintain that

1340
01:37:07,180 --> 01:37:10,800
low tax rate, then, you know, it's something that I think we all have to take seriously

1341
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:17,760
and look at. So, stay around. We're going to have a public hearing and stuff. And so, there

1342
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:22,040
might be some more questions in price set pretty close to the front. Maybe right next to

1343
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:28,400
broadly just in case because that way if someone asks a question or says something then we

1344
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:31,040
can maybe get the answer right away if need be.

1345
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:32,140
I'm happy to do that.

1346
01:37:32,660 --> 01:37:32,840
All right.

1347
01:37:33,140 --> 01:37:33,560
Thank you.

1348
01:37:34,100 --> 01:37:34,660
Thank you.

1349
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:35,080
All right.

1350
01:37:35,420 --> 01:37:38,500
So, you might want to take a quick two minute break.

1351
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:39,080
All right.

1352
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,780
What we're going to do for everybody in the audience.

1353
01:37:41,260 --> 01:37:45,240
So I'm going to maintain the three minute time limit.

1354
01:37:45,700 --> 01:37:47,300
Once it's three minutes, it's over.

1355
01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:55,940
there's about 18 to 20 speakers I think on here we will have civil discourse in

1356
01:37:55,940 --> 01:38:00,320
this chamber there will not be anybody yelling at us we're not going to yell at

1357
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:08,580
you and if it gets out of hand then you will be asked to leave if I've warned

1358
01:38:08,580 --> 01:38:14,700
you or not and we've never had an issue before I don't anticipate one tonight but

1359
01:38:14,700 --> 01:38:19,080
I want to make sure everybody understands what the rules are.

1360
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:24,420
So we'll take about a two or three minute break and then we'll read adjourn.

1361
01:38:24,580 --> 01:38:26,820
So we'll recess at 7.40.

1362
01:38:48,830 --> 01:38:51,070
We'll reconvene at 7.46.

1363
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:09,820
All right, let me just ask this since we've had, we're starting when we are.

1364
01:39:09,820 --> 01:39:14,820
or is there anybody that is waiting on transportation

1365
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,240
or being basically needed like they wanna speak

1366
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:20,360
and then they gotta get out of here?

1367
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,040
I mean, I just wanna make sure we're not,

1368
01:39:22,660 --> 01:39:25,440
I don't want you to sit here and you're down to it.

1369
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:26,860
I didn't put these in any order,

1370
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:31,020
but if there's someone that's gotta get somewhere

1371
01:39:31,500 --> 01:39:34,540
for whatever reason, I'd like to let you go first.

1372
01:39:34,740 --> 01:39:36,100
Okay, so why don't we start with you?

1373
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:37,400
What, yeah.

1374
01:39:39,390 --> 01:39:43,430
You don't want to go first? Okay, I'll let you go second. Tell me your name, and I'll

1375
01:39:44,650 --> 01:39:46,310
Okay, I'll let you go second

1376
01:39:47,290 --> 01:39:50,470
If I mispronounce your name, please forgive me

1377
01:39:51,090 --> 01:39:55,650
What I need you to do is make sure you come up state your name and address for the record

1378
01:39:56,770 --> 01:39:59,810
You once you're finished with your comments like said

1379
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:23,880
They go three minutes, but once you finish your comments, don't run off just right away because the council can't ask you any question because it's an agenda item. Okay. And so we'll work through this and go from there. So I'm going to, I hope I can read these. It looks like the first one up is Ruby Payne. Okay.

1380
01:40:28,330 --> 01:40:28,950
I'll ask her.

1381
01:40:32,580 --> 01:40:34,140
Good evening, Ms. Payne. Good evening.

1382
01:40:35,660 --> 01:40:39,160
Mayor, Mayor Protein, Council Members,

1383
01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:43,460
Roundup Office, residents.

1384
01:40:44,500 --> 01:40:50,120
I am a resident of 24 years here in Roundup.

1385
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:56,540
I've seen a lot growth from nothing to a lot.

1386
01:40:57,460 --> 01:41:01,580
And I was notified by my neighbor about this,

1387
01:41:01,660 --> 01:41:03,000
because since I've been retired,

1388
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:05,640
I don't read everything that comes into my house,

1389
01:41:05,940 --> 01:41:08,560
but I'm glad she brought it to my attention

1390
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:13,620
because I look at it like this location, location, location.

1391
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:20,760
And the sky box data center, it's a good project,

1392
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,160
but it's not for residential area.

1393
01:41:23,940 --> 01:41:26,480
When I came to Round Rock, it was for residential,

1394
01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,960
it was for taxes, and I worked in Austin,

1395
01:41:30,580 --> 01:41:32,120
and everything worked out great.

1396
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:38,460
And so I've seen a lot, well, first of all, I saw my neighborhood being completed, being built.

1397
01:41:39,140 --> 01:41:42,820
We have a lot of young people, had a lot of young people come and leave.

1398
01:41:43,420 --> 01:41:45,160
Still have some young people coming.

1399
01:41:45,620 --> 01:41:53,680
And I'd like to see that continued, but we wanted to be where it's beneficial to them to be here.

1400
01:41:54,440 --> 01:41:59,520
And I was listening to the gentleman speak about where the box centers are located.

1401
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:07,240
And the one that I do know of, it doesn't sit in the middle of a residential area where

1402
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:13,220
we are of a Chandler Creek Boulevard behind us when you go down old settlers, that's residential.

1403
01:42:13,740 --> 01:42:15,920
Behind us they just finished town homes.

1404
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:21,180
We don't need box centers next to where we live.

1405
01:42:21,860 --> 01:42:28,100
There are other areas, we have a lot of open land between here and Taylor and further out

1406
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:34,200
going toward Georgetown and app that they can build whatever they want for their box

1407
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:40,280
centers, but not in our backyards. And I'm not going to go any further than that, but

1408
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:46,860
I wanted to make it plain that if it was in your back yard where you come out of your

1409
01:42:46,860 --> 01:42:49,980
subdivision, do you want to see that? Thank you.

1410
01:42:50,660 --> 01:42:51,100
All right.

1411
01:42:55,980 --> 01:42:59,400
Miss Payne. Miss Payne, I have a question, a couple quick questions for you.

1412
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:02,220
So

1413
01:43:02,220 --> 01:43:32,200
So I just want to make sure that you understand you that that parcel of land is already zoned industrial so it it's not compatible to change it back to like a residential or something I saw I saw that but I made a note on my notes where I guess the land sit there so long that it wasn't pleasing or are tempting for subdivid or contract to say let me build some homes there. I saw them build further up old settlers versus across

1414
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:36,580
there. I didn't know if there wasn't enough plot for the homes that they intended or what,

1415
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:43,980
but I just feel like that's not what we need there. So just I know you pointed at each of us.

1416
01:43:44,140 --> 01:43:49,260
I have an Amazon Distribution Center right behind my house. So hundreds of Amazon trucks

1417
01:43:49,260 --> 01:43:54,800
see it on Chisholm Trail every single day right by my neighborhood. So I sympathize. I do get it,

1418
01:43:54,900 --> 01:43:59,980
but we do have to figure out the highest and best uses of land and currently that is zoned

1419
01:43:59,980 --> 01:44:03,540
light industrial so we just have to make that decision. Unfortunately it's not

1420
01:44:03,540 --> 01:44:09,120
zone residential. Can I ask you a question? Sure. Since that is zone as it is, is it

1421
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,200
instead in stone that it could never be re-zoned? I don't think that it would be

1422
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,140
compatible because you already have to

1423
01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:21,340
industrial on both sides of it. You've got industrial on each side so there's never

1424
01:44:21,340 --> 01:44:26,420
going to be a residential zone in area. And you've got commercial right across

1425
01:44:26,420 --> 01:44:31,660
the street bordering old settlers in Kiffin Road. So I don't wear it, I wear it broadly.

1426
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:35,080
But there's other point. Would it ever be changed to anything that would be?

1427
01:44:35,540 --> 01:44:40,560
It could be considered something else. And the reason I said that is because I do know of

1428
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:45,800
the one-of-the-box centers that they're talking about, the sky box, and it doesn't sit in the middle

1429
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:54,440
residue. It's not, it's bordering one perimeter of it. So I would take issue that it's sitting

1430
01:44:54,440 --> 01:44:59,860
in the middle of it, but I will ask Bradley what anything else it could ever be.

1431
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:13,980
And in the switch data center does, but just like this up to neighborhood. I mean, I can always speak from what I understand. And I've seen, like I said, I've seen the growth from churches.

1432
01:45:14,980 --> 01:45:15,180
Sure.

1433
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:26,080
And to your point, my neighborhood, you know, my neighborhood came out and spoke when that Amazon was coming in. I will say they have been a good partner to our neighborhood.

1434
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,920
and so we all want our Amazon packages, right?

1435
01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:31,020
And so they get there nice and fast now.

1436
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:32,280
They're right behind us.

1437
01:45:32,540 --> 01:45:33,700
So I do understand.

1438
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,240
How come then I'd lie to the big boys and Austin asked

1439
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:37,000
them for this?

1440
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:37,420
Yeah.

1441
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:38,720
Just asking.

1442
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:44,860
Bradley, a Brad asked, answer the Mayor Pro Temps question

1443
01:45:44,860 --> 01:45:47,340
about her suggestion if you could move it.

1444
01:45:48,340 --> 01:45:52,360
Change in a hypothetical situation in which a prospective developer wanted

1445
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,360
to rezone this property from a light industrial to single family.

1446
01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:57,420
I don't think we would be able to support it.

1447
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,800
The comprehensive plan designates this for industrial use.

1448
01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:03,800
It is bordered by industrial use on two sides, plus more commercial on the north side.

1449
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,160
Additionally, if a word to be developed as residential or single family,

1450
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:09,820
we would require them to make that connection through the neighborhood.

1451
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:11,960
So they would have more ways in and out and around.

1452
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,880
So it would increase traffic through the neighborhood.

1453
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,100
It would be a whole lot more traffic than any industrial use on this property.

1454
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:19,180
Would see on the old settler's boulevard anyway.

1455
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:24,420
Well, I know when we approved for the charter school, they were able that they wanted.

1456
01:46:24,420 --> 01:46:31,360
they could have gone through the neighborhood and then that would have created an abundance of

1457
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:38,400
traffic. So that's one of the things we did fix in this putt or we were able to fix in this putt

1458
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:44,020
is the drive through connection and we all live in neighborhoods where we've got connections of roads

1459
01:46:44,020 --> 01:46:50,200
just coming through where people are coming left and right and speed in and choose our neighbor's

1460
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:59,480
speed in, but there's always a lot of, a lot of times with traffic, people want you to have the connections.

1461
01:47:01,660 --> 01:47:06,600
I'm glad you mentioned the charter school though, because that helped jog my memory a little bit about some of the history here.

1462
01:47:06,700 --> 01:47:08,940
So the charter school would have had to connect down there as well.

1463
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:14,380
But when that proposal went away, then we had another proposal for light industrial.

1464
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:17,500
They actually started going through the site development permit process with us.

1465
01:47:17,500 --> 01:47:21,600
As recently as June, we were reviewing that permit before it was dropped in favor of the

1466
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:22,540
rezoning application.

1467
01:47:22,860 --> 01:47:26,440
They were planning on building four light industrial buildings on this property totaling

1468
01:47:26,440 --> 01:47:33,340
about 365,000 square feet of light industrial uses with a building meeting the 80-foot set

1469
01:47:33,340 --> 01:47:37,340
back along the southern property line right down there with parking all around it.

1470
01:47:38,860 --> 01:47:42,240
And they wouldn't have to come, they could come back and do that right now if they wanted.

1471
01:47:42,440 --> 01:47:42,560
Yes.

1472
01:47:43,440 --> 01:47:43,720
Okay.

1473
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:44,460
All right.

1474
01:47:44,460 --> 01:47:50,060
Well, so I was just wondering if it could put up that diagram again just that shows the

1475
01:47:50,060 --> 01:47:58,020
MD land with the neighborhood at the bottom and then it had so this one because if we were

1476
01:47:58,020 --> 01:48:02,620
to build like a residential in that area then there are back that new residential neighborhoods

1477
01:48:02,620 --> 01:48:09,020
backing up to two industrials on both sides. So it's kind of the same situation which is why they

1478
01:48:09,020 --> 01:48:13,420
had sewn that and that was before my time but they had sewn in industrial there because it kind of

1479
01:48:13,420 --> 01:48:15,040
went in with both sides.

1480
01:48:15,740 --> 01:48:17,200
So now we're just kind of having that issue

1481
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,360
that the new industrial is backing up to the neighborhood,

1482
01:48:20,540 --> 01:48:22,620
which is why they're trying to be so strict

1483
01:48:22,620 --> 01:48:24,160
on setting much farther back.

1484
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:26,140
And then that's going to be sending farther back

1485
01:48:26,140 --> 01:48:29,020
than the existing data centers that we have.

1486
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:33,040
Just so hopefully you're not looking at it.

1487
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,800
And all of us went out to say B to tour it

1488
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:38,860
because I mean, I hadn't been to a data center before.

1489
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:40,760
So I wanted to kind of understand it better

1490
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,680
and just like, what does it look like?

1491
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:49,180
and how loud is it and you know there's not even noise inside like there's one room that's it.

1492
01:48:49,500 --> 01:48:55,540
So a lot of these things that I was concerned about I wasn't seeing that are hoping that if it's

1493
01:48:55,540 --> 01:49:01,120
got to be industrial it's much better industrial than it could be. So we're trying to make it better

1494
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:05,820
and then pitch structure guidelines to hopefully help. So I think that's why there's some confusion

1495
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:09,400
because we're like well there's industrial in both sites. I still want to show you all that again.

1496
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,140
All right. All right, Ms. Morin.

1497
01:49:15,340 --> 01:49:26,120
Did someone before you start? Did someone in the back want to need to go to with the baby? I thought someone maybe. Okay. I just want to make sure. All right.

1498
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,040
Does somebody need to go? Come on up.

1499
01:49:30,980 --> 01:49:39,340
I don't have any notes. So forgive me. I was here to talk and am I am I doing this? Okay. You're doing great.

1500
01:49:39,340 --> 01:49:46,100
I'm Margaret Maureen and I am, I'm not anybody special, I'm just a registered nurse, I've been

1501
01:49:46,100 --> 01:49:52,020
a registered nurse for more than 40 years and I've seen my share of suffering and that's

1502
01:49:52,020 --> 01:49:57,820
one of the things that attracted me to this concept of the data centers and I only found

1503
01:49:57,820 --> 01:49:59,980
that about this because it was in next door

1504
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:29,980
I'm not a young woman, and I still read my newspapers, and I never saw anything about this. So, you know, this is all surprised to me. Do you mind if I just ask the room of question real quick? How many people are here to protest the data centers? If you raise your hand? Okay. And see, we haven't even heard about this officially any place. We're just here in places like next door. So we would like to have an extended period of comment on this.

1505
01:50:29,980 --> 01:50:34,980
this because so more people can participate and have more people informed about what's

1506
01:50:34,980 --> 01:50:37,300
happening because I don't think that's happening right now.

1507
01:50:38,020 --> 01:50:42,080
This is just off the next door app most of us have found out about that because I went

1508
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:43,580
around and took an informal poll.

1509
01:50:45,820 --> 01:50:52,860
Anyway, so I've been reading on these data centers and excuse me, I'm in native Texans so

1510
01:50:52,860 --> 01:50:59,060
I talk like one but I do read the business journals as well and two of my favorite are

1511
01:50:59,060 --> 01:51:03,100
Bloomberg and Forbes, and I don't know if you all know this, but I assume you do.

1512
01:51:03,900 --> 01:51:05,620
And this is one from Bloomberg.

1513
01:51:06,020 --> 01:51:09,440
It was published just in September of 2025.

1514
01:51:10,380 --> 01:51:15,380
And the title is AI data centers are sending power bills soaring.

1515
01:51:15,940 --> 01:51:23,300
The subtitle is wholesale electricity costs are as much as 267 percent more than it did five

1516
01:51:23,300 --> 01:51:25,920
years ago in areas with data centers.

1517
01:51:26,460 --> 01:51:28,640
and that's being passed along to consumers.

1518
01:51:29,460 --> 01:51:31,680
So this is a study, I read it,

1519
01:51:31,940 --> 01:51:34,880
and this is a study that analyzed tens of thousands

1520
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:38,520
of cities with data centers.

1521
01:51:39,020 --> 01:51:40,940
And I would encourage y'all to read this

1522
01:51:41,560 --> 01:51:44,220
because this is a pretty reliable study.

1523
01:51:44,660 --> 01:51:46,500
There are other good studies too,

1524
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:48,320
but this is one that caught my eye.

1525
01:51:49,580 --> 01:51:51,280
So, because I think some of the things

1526
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:52,220
we're talking about tonight,

1527
01:51:52,440 --> 01:51:54,480
don't bear out in what I'm seeing in the research.

1528
01:51:55,340 --> 01:52:02,320
I also wanted to talk about the closed loop that they're talking about.

1529
01:52:03,340 --> 01:52:05,400
I've done some reading on that too.

1530
01:52:05,580 --> 01:52:10,400
I don't make myself as an expert, but many studies say that that's a fallacy,

1531
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,720
that there is no such thing as truly closed loop cooling.

1532
01:52:14,260 --> 01:52:19,560
There is exposure to the environment, and there is still a significant amount of water use

1533
01:52:19,560 --> 01:52:21,760
that I don't think we're really addressing tonight.

1534
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:28,800
Okay. You know, in areas that I read in one study, that areas with several data centers,

1535
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:34,100
people are being asked not to shower because the data centers need the water. And right

1536
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:40,240
now, I'm only watering my lawn one or two times a week because of the water restrictions.

1537
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:42,640
So I would like to, what does that mean?

1538
01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:44,640
That means your three manages up.

1539
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:48,120
Okay. Well, I would just like to say one more thing.

1540
01:52:48,460 --> 01:52:49,300
You sure can.

1541
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:49,640
Okay.

1542
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:55,240
Well, I did, I just because I'm an analytical person by nature, I'm a nurse.

1543
01:52:55,780 --> 01:52:59,420
I thought, oh, all these places have data center and they're all having some problems

1544
01:52:59,420 --> 01:52:59,940
with them.

1545
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,680
What places don't have data centers?

1546
01:53:03,260 --> 01:53:06,620
You know, are there places around the United States that don't have any data centers?

1547
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:12,180
And surprisingly, I found dozens that don't have any data centers and have no plans to

1548
01:53:12,180 --> 01:53:13,020
have data centers.

1549
01:53:13,480 --> 01:53:19,120
And those are places like Scarborough, New York, and West University, Place, Texas, and there's

1550
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:22,840
a bunch of others, but I'm not going to read them to you because I'm my time's up. And

1551
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:29,260
what characterizes these places is they're largely populated by billionaires. Now we're

1552
01:53:29,260 --> 01:53:33,720
not billionaires in Round Rock. We can't protect ourselves with wealth and power like these

1553
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:37,880
places do and are able to keep the data centers out of their communities.

1554
01:53:49,430 --> 01:53:50,030
We're counting on

1555
01:53:50,030 --> 01:53:54,970
softballs at this man with questions because that's what's going on and I'm sorry because

1556
01:53:54,970 --> 01:53:59,670
y'all are looking at the tax base and I respect that because I don't want to pay more

1557
01:53:59,670 --> 01:54:04,810
taxes either but I also don't want to get sick with cancer so thank you

1558
01:54:07,150 --> 01:54:08,290
thank you.

1559
01:54:21,330 --> 01:54:21,890
Thank

1560
01:54:25,090 --> 01:54:26,790
you, Mayor, thank you, Council.

1561
01:54:28,190 --> 01:54:29,390
My name is Jeanette Rousey.

1562
01:54:29,570 --> 01:54:35,550
I'm a resident of villages of Chandler Creek, and we're in a municipal utility district.

1563
01:54:36,190 --> 01:54:40,910
And the proposed skybox site sits less than 1,000 feet from my house.

1564
01:54:41,650 --> 01:54:46,530
And I first learned of the proposed data center three days ago, when I read it in the community

1565
01:54:46,530 --> 01:54:51,550
impact newsletter in my email and I never learned of the planning and zoning commissions

1566
01:54:51,550 --> 01:54:56,190
November 5th public hearing on this matter and so in the minutes of that meeting that

1567
01:54:56,190 --> 01:54:59,710
no members of the public attended I understand that property

1568
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:29,860
Members, within 325 feet of the site received mail notice. So my family and I fell 675 feet short of earning notice. And this does not inspire my confidence. Considering that a data center could have a longstanding impact on my community's health and property values, we deserve more reliable scientific evidence than one or two local comparisons before this goes

1569
01:55:29,860 --> 01:55:36,060
forward. And I appreciate the city's prompt response to my email the other day and the FAQ

1570
01:55:36,060 --> 01:55:41,200
that was posted on your website. But these failed to address a number of particular concerns

1571
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:46,540
around the hazards of data centers around this country and the speed that these are being

1572
01:55:46,540 --> 01:55:53,940
imposed upon neighborhoods like mine. I simply ask that council slow down do its due diligence

1573
01:55:53,940 --> 01:55:57,740
and act in good faith for the well-being of your neighbors. Thank you.

1574
01:55:57,740 --> 01:55:58,580
Thank you.

1575
01:55:59,060 --> 01:55:59,100
All

1576
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:04,720
right.

1577
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:05,440
Karen Chote.

1578
01:56:19,220 --> 01:56:21,200
Karen Chote, 20 Fairview Drive.

1579
01:56:21,340 --> 01:56:23,180
I've lived at my house for over 40 years.

1580
01:56:23,380 --> 01:56:26,740
I live on the north side of the off-east old settlers.

1581
01:56:26,980 --> 01:56:31,460
And I noticed that the presentation was mainly talking about the niceties that they were

1582
01:56:31,460 --> 01:56:33,160
doing at the south side of the project.

1583
01:56:33,340 --> 01:56:37,020
But the south side of the project is more towards other people's subdivision.

1584
01:56:37,100 --> 01:56:40,440
But what about the area that's right facing old settlers?

1585
01:56:40,780 --> 01:56:42,440
That's the north side of the project.

1586
01:56:42,580 --> 01:56:43,660
What are you doing for that?

1587
01:56:43,660 --> 01:56:48,540
And I have a question regarding the energy prices because from the energy

1588
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:54,780
information administration, when I looked it up today, they expect energy prices

1589
01:56:54,780 --> 01:57:00,580
to go up, electricity prices to go up, 8.6%, especially in areas with data

1590
01:57:00,580 --> 01:57:01,540
centers and stuff.

1591
01:57:01,780 --> 01:57:07,860
And so I didn't hear that in the presentation, but it says they can go up even more.

1592
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:12,600
And so yes, I know you want to do a good job with property taxes, but it doesn't

1593
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:17,980
help with, it doesn't help us a lot if you save on property taxes but we get charged

1594
01:57:17,980 --> 01:57:23,200
at least 8.6% more on electricity costs because we're going to have a high electricity

1595
01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:31,520
usage data center in the area. And so that's my main concern. I'm also concerned about

1596
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:35,780
the water but from what they said it'd only be like one swimming pool so that wouldn't be

1597
01:57:35,780 --> 01:57:39,460
so bad if that's actually true. But I want to say something else. A lot of y'all say,

1598
01:57:39,460 --> 01:57:43,600
Well, it's already zoned for industrial use.

1599
01:57:43,900 --> 01:57:45,840
I want to ask you, when was that?

1600
01:57:46,020 --> 01:57:49,900
I didn't get any notice of that, and I have dealt with planning and zoning before,

1601
01:57:50,260 --> 01:57:54,400
and they don't even pay attention to deed restrictions when they pass things.

1602
01:57:54,780 --> 01:58:00,240
So I don't even know if the area that they're talking about had deed restrictions that would

1603
01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:01,120
contradict it.

1604
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:05,880
They've told me in the past that, well, even though the city approves it, if it's a violation

1605
01:58:05,880 --> 01:58:08,580
your deed restrictions, you can still sue them.

1606
01:58:08,740 --> 01:58:13,140
And why in the world should residents have to dig into our pockets to sue

1607
01:58:13,140 --> 01:58:16,400
against something that was against a deed restriction in the first place?

1608
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:20,860
Like I said, I don't know about it for this thing, but I do know that in the past,

1609
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:24,780
planning and zoning has not looked at deed restrictions before they've approved

1610
01:58:24,780 --> 01:58:25,220
things.

1611
01:58:25,460 --> 01:58:30,940
And so that's my concern, concern about water, concern about the amount of electricity,

1612
01:58:30,940 --> 01:58:40,140
I'm concerned about the cost of electricity, and as that other person talked about, I'm concerned about noise, and also concerned about the possibility of cancer.

1613
01:58:40,580 --> 01:58:48,020
So please take some more time to look at that and let us be more informed, I only found out about it because a neighbor sent me something about it.

1614
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:52,640
And so, you know me, I'm Karen, I come talk to you before, I'll come talk to you again.

1615
01:58:53,020 --> 01:58:56,380
But anyway, thanks for having this, and I hope you can answer those questions.

1616
01:58:56,380 --> 01:58:56,580
Thanks.

1617
01:58:56,860 --> 01:58:57,780
Thank you.

1618
01:59:00,670 --> 01:59:01,230
Yeah.

1619
01:59:01,710 --> 01:59:05,890
Brad, come up real quick and then the applicant, I'm going to come back up.

1620
01:59:07,130 --> 01:59:13,490
The question about the kind of the front aspect of it being closer to outsiders and, you

1621
01:59:13,490 --> 01:59:16,490
know, any trees or whatever.

1622
01:59:16,630 --> 01:59:21,310
Yeah, the putt does require a row of trees, medium and large species trees as kind of a buffer

1623
01:59:21,310 --> 01:59:22,690
on the front side of the building.

1624
01:59:23,590 --> 01:59:24,150
Okay.

1625
01:59:24,690 --> 01:59:26,870
And then, where's the applicant?

1626
01:59:27,430 --> 01:59:27,570
Oh.

1627
01:59:27,570 --> 01:59:37,790
Right there. Can you come back up here and address how does the electricity, all right?

1628
01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:43,730
How does it, because I thought I heard you say that when you get this, when this is approved by Encore,

1629
01:59:44,110 --> 01:59:52,510
it can't have any impact on existing, you know, residential property or whatever.

1630
01:59:52,510 --> 01:59:58,990
Yes sir so I mean just clarified yeah and so in Texas energy is

1631
01:59:58,990 --> 01:59:59,550
deregulated.

1632
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,580
And so that was done in the late 90s. They broke up. The producers of electricity, the owners of transmission lines, and then ultimate end retailing groups. And so any of us in this room can pick who we buy our electricity from. That's a post deregulation world that we live in. And so it's a free market. It's a plight of and driven. And Ercat again is the overseer of the overall grid. And as they are considering applications for large load, they're looking very closely at how much electricity are we producing, and they're never going to over commit.

1633
02:00:29,580 --> 02:00:33,000
and fall short, they want to keep things in balance,

1634
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:35,020
but in terms of the contracts and what you're paying,

1635
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:37,460
that's just driven by the free market in the state of Texas.

1636
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:38,780
Okay.

1637
02:00:40,340 --> 02:00:42,180
So are you familiar with the article

1638
02:00:42,180 --> 02:00:44,540
that was referenced that they were seeing an increase

1639
02:00:44,540 --> 02:00:47,020
and were data centers all located?

1640
02:00:47,220 --> 02:00:48,280
Are you familiar with that at all?

1641
02:00:48,580 --> 02:00:49,480
I mean, not that we don't have to be,

1642
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:50,300
but are just curious.

1643
02:00:50,740 --> 02:00:53,640
Yeah, and it's, you know, in a world where we've seen

1644
02:00:53,640 --> 02:00:55,720
run away inflation over the past several years

1645
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:58,140
and it's, you know, energy prices,

1646
02:00:58,140 --> 02:01:00,000
and it's been food and it's been steel.

1647
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:00,960
It's been different things.

1648
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,660
There's more variables to the equation, right?

1649
02:01:04,900 --> 02:01:07,180
And so I think it's easy to point to data centers.

1650
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,560
There's large consumers of electricity and say,

1651
02:01:10,740 --> 02:01:12,080
that's really the problem.

1652
02:01:12,420 --> 02:01:15,200
I mean, think about the underlying inputs to produce electricity

1653
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:18,420
or largely oil and gas related, right?

1654
02:01:18,540 --> 02:01:20,740
And so if oil goes up or oil goes down,

1655
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:23,140
that ultimately comes to an electric prices.

1656
02:01:23,580 --> 02:01:25,860
And you know, that's one of many other variables.

1657
02:01:25,860 --> 02:01:32,460
But I'd say that linking the two and saying this is a very black and white point A point

1658
02:01:32,460 --> 02:01:33,540
B, and here's the connection.

1659
02:01:34,380 --> 02:01:39,040
There's kind of some artistic freedom taken, right, in an article of that nature.

1660
02:01:39,940 --> 02:01:46,240
Would you agree that there's different energy loads for, you know, you see a lot about

1661
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,020
magas, these big magasides.

1662
02:01:48,360 --> 02:01:51,680
I mean, they're on 100, 200, 300 acres.

1663
02:01:52,520 --> 02:01:58,860
I mean, they're clearly going to use much more electric than one on a smaller acreage.

1664
02:01:59,140 --> 02:02:00,340
I mean, is that fair to say?

1665
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:01,260
Of course.

1666
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:09,340
And so, yeah, I mean, this one you're looking at, you know, in the 50 to 60 megawatt range

1667
02:02:09,340 --> 02:02:09,880
where-

1668
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:12,540
Which is smaller than the other two that we already have on the ground?

1669
02:02:13,620 --> 02:02:13,800
Correct.

1670
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:14,760
I mean, so-

1671
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:15,940
I mean, I'm megawatt-

1672
02:02:15,940 --> 02:02:20,220
Yes, but if you go out towards the Samsung Fab and some of the bigger stuff being built

1673
02:02:20,220 --> 02:02:25,920
out there. You're talking in the hundreds of megawatts. Right. And see, this is a much smaller

1674
02:02:25,920 --> 02:02:33,340
scale version of what we're looking at here. Right. Okay. All right. Adam Thompson.

1675
02:02:33,640 --> 02:02:40,600
Oh, Council Member Taig. Hold on a minute. And Brad, step up to please. I'm trying to

1676
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:47,080
get to understand this also because the concerns are will their electricity go up because of these

1677
02:02:47,720 --> 02:03:00,780
or not because my understanding is they would be too separate billing for a simpler way of putting it that we will not be tagged on to their usage on our bills.

1678
02:03:01,180 --> 02:03:10,300
Am I correct in that? Or is it, are they going to end up tagging us like they're saying because yeah, I'm concerned about my electric bill as well.

1679
02:03:10,860 --> 02:03:14,260
Oh, yes or no, they are not directly related.

1680
02:03:14,740 --> 02:03:20,820
So Texas being again a deregulated market, you can pick whoever you'd like to pay your

1681
02:03:20,820 --> 02:03:22,180
month-to-month electricity with.

1682
02:03:22,760 --> 02:03:27,780
These groups are buying from the overall grid, which in the state of Texas is roughly 85

1683
02:03:27,780 --> 02:03:28,520
gigawatts.

1684
02:03:28,940 --> 02:03:34,160
That's one big market that, you know, anywhere in the state, city of Austin is different.

1685
02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:37,720
It's actually one regulated place where you have to buy from Austin Electric and they set

1686
02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:44,480
their rates, but it's, you know, this is part of a much bigger system and for end homeowners,

1687
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:52,900
they are buying in a free market world where they can pick their provider and they can pick their

1688
02:03:52,900 --> 02:03:56,700
rate and they can pick different formats of fixed over 12 months or variable rates or different

1689
02:03:56,700 --> 02:04:03,000
things and that is, you know, a piece of the bigger electricity picture in the state of Texas.

1690
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:06,920
But for the data center, they are just taking electricity off.

1691
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,720
And they actually have to go and sign their contract.

1692
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:11,220
The same as any homeowner would.

1693
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:16,860
And it's obviously at a much larger scale, but they're doing the same thing, just at a larger scale.

1694
02:04:16,860 --> 02:04:21,880
It's so citizen, when their contract comes up, then because I know mine is coming up in March,

1695
02:04:22,620 --> 02:04:28,620
then I have to pay close attention to the rate and what I'm getting for in those wattage, then.

1696
02:04:28,620 --> 02:04:32,860
because that's where I'm going to see an increase then probably and I have

1697
02:04:32,860 --> 02:04:36,460
solar panels as well you know I'm really concerned about those kind of stuff

1698
02:04:36,460 --> 02:04:43,460
then I'll notice then why that jump is because they would have to tell me I hope

1699
02:04:43,460 --> 02:04:48,240
the truth when I ask that question to them am I am I correct in that because I want to

1700
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:51,740
make sure I understand it and I want to make sure the community understands that you

1701
02:04:51,740 --> 02:04:56,620
know I think that you know I think to your your question to what he said I think

1702
02:04:56,620 --> 02:04:59,900
that there's so many different factors in energy.

1703
02:05:00,210 --> 02:05:28,090
I mean, the energy process has been going up for the last couple of years. I mean, across the state, you know, all that, all, on court's responsibility is for all of the grid in the state of, or our cut is response for all the grid in the state of Texas, the load, and all that. And then on court, obviously works in conjunction with them. So, I mean, if you have more people move here.

1704
02:05:28,090 --> 02:05:31,050
I mean, your energy costs could go up.

1705
02:05:31,190 --> 02:05:33,350
I mean, people are flocking to Texas.

1706
02:05:33,910 --> 02:05:36,230
So, I mean, I think that there's a lot of different factors.

1707
02:05:36,330 --> 02:05:40,090
I think that, you know, the concern is, is that, you know,

1708
02:05:40,210 --> 02:05:41,610
it's kind of like anything else.

1709
02:05:41,670 --> 02:05:43,790
You don't put all restaurants in the same category.

1710
02:05:44,670 --> 02:05:46,950
Data centers are all in different categories as well.

1711
02:05:47,110 --> 02:05:48,430
I mean, you've got the big megasights.

1712
02:05:48,430 --> 02:05:53,690
You've got smaller ones, you know, I think Dell is in the process

1713
02:05:53,690 --> 02:05:56,170
of doing something with AI.

1714
02:05:56,170 --> 02:06:05,470
You know, so I mean, it's a they're all different, you know, just like our houses, you know, some of us are paying more in electricity than others, you know, and we don't control that.

1715
02:06:05,730 --> 02:06:08,370
I mean, that's the one thing that was out of our control.

1716
02:06:08,810 --> 02:06:16,190
Well, that's what I wanted to understand because I want to be prepared and I want our community to be prepared and given them the right information.

1717
02:06:16,190 --> 02:06:26,110
Yes, sir, so a data center isn't going to change the choices you have when you're picking your provider and what they will charge you ultimately.

1718
02:06:26,530 --> 02:06:36,210
I'd recommend look at the different options of retailers out there because Texas being deregulated you may be able to get a better deal with another retail electric provider.

1719
02:06:37,330 --> 02:06:40,250
and I've found that those groups, if someone sticks with them long enough,

1720
02:06:40,330 --> 02:06:43,770
I will start increasing, and if you switch to another one,

1721
02:06:43,810 --> 02:06:46,970
you may be able to get a better deal with that's, to me, for, you know,

1722
02:06:46,970 --> 02:06:53,710
that piece of your life, I think that's a better way to come up with a good solution there.

1723
02:06:53,890 --> 02:06:55,810
And, Bernard, yeah. Thank you, sir.

1724
02:06:56,370 --> 02:06:56,890
Adam Thompson.

1725
02:06:58,770 --> 02:07:00,430
Oh, Mayor Protum, sorry.

1726
02:07:01,590 --> 02:07:02,530
Adam, go ahead, Adam.

1727
02:07:02,530 --> 02:07:05,690
All the questions directed to Bradley and I can ask after you're done.

1728
02:07:06,450 --> 02:07:09,790
Council members, Mayor, I'm Adam, you know, some of you know me.

1729
02:07:10,530 --> 02:07:16,370
I just have questions I want to ask broadly because I don't know the answers to them and I think

1730
02:07:16,370 --> 02:07:19,210
that they warned some clarification and further research.

1731
02:07:20,330 --> 02:07:23,150
Question number one, closed loop system is a misnomer.

1732
02:07:23,510 --> 02:07:27,210
That's necessarily the heat must be released in some manner.

1733
02:07:28,070 --> 02:07:32,510
some of these systems use evaporative towers still some of these systems use

1734
02:07:32,510 --> 02:07:37,450
forced air. I don't know what system they're intending to use. Regardless it's

1735
02:07:37,450 --> 02:07:43,190
going to dump heat into the local area and that will have an impact on local

1736
02:07:43,190 --> 02:07:48,350
climate. What kind of impact that does has I don't know but I do know that

1737
02:07:48,350 --> 02:07:53,610
increasing the heat in an area can have a significant impact on the wildlife and

1738
02:07:53,610 --> 02:07:55,770
And it also can have an impact on us.

1739
02:07:56,350 --> 02:07:58,430
It can make the area of our neighborhoods

1740
02:07:58,970 --> 02:08:02,450
hotter and cause more problems and increase heating costs

1741
02:08:02,450 --> 02:08:05,610
or cooling costs rather feeding back

1742
02:08:05,610 --> 02:08:06,890
into electricity concerns.

1743
02:08:07,490 --> 02:08:08,510
So that's concern number one.

1744
02:08:09,270 --> 02:08:12,910
Concern number two is these sorts of cooling systems

1745
02:08:13,350 --> 02:08:15,870
that are associated with these data centers often produce

1746
02:08:16,350 --> 02:08:18,810
what we call low frequency sound.

1747
02:08:20,590 --> 02:08:22,370
That kind of sound doesn't really register

1748
02:08:22,370 --> 02:08:32,030
Here on the decibel scale that you'll have in your, in our noise, the city noise regulations,

1749
02:08:32,610 --> 02:08:33,970
we use the DBA system.

1750
02:08:34,250 --> 02:08:39,370
These are sorts of things that wouldn't be applicable, but they can have an impact on

1751
02:08:39,370 --> 02:08:43,590
people over a long period of time, even though they're not loud, they're constant.

1752
02:08:45,970 --> 02:08:49,070
I don't know what kind of sound dampening can be done.

1753
02:08:49,070 --> 02:08:56,610
I do know it's very difficult to damp low frequency sound it's because of its long wavelength. It's difficult to stop

1754
02:08:56,610 --> 02:08:59,830
I'm not going to get into the physics by that is

1755
02:09:00,350 --> 02:09:00,810
further

1756
02:09:01,510 --> 02:09:02,610
For the council

1757
02:09:03,670 --> 02:09:04,310
but

1758
02:09:06,220 --> 02:09:10,320
Those are just broadly the concerns that I'm aware of

1759
02:09:11,380 --> 02:09:14,400
That's it. All right. Thank you

1760
02:09:19,390 --> 02:09:27,030
Crowley really quickly can you just speak to our process in planning and zoning when we're going to have a public hearing how those

1761
02:09:27,030 --> 02:09:33,310
Announcements are made where they're made and how those compare to what the state of Texas requires us to do.

1762
02:09:33,650 --> 02:09:36,830
Sure, we have several steps that we take whenever we have a public hearing.

1763
02:09:36,970 --> 02:09:40,990
So for example, a rezoning will have multiple public hearings through its adoption process.

1764
02:09:40,990 --> 02:09:44,410
The first at the Planning and Zoning Commission, the second one at City Council.

1765
02:09:45,010 --> 02:09:49,190
And so for each public hearing, there are some state mandated requirements that we have to follow.

1766
02:09:49,190 --> 02:09:54,390
that we actually go above and beyond, the state only requires a mailed notice to all owners of

1767
02:09:54,390 --> 02:09:59,870
property within 200 feet of the affected property. We go to 325 feet. We want to capture

1768
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,980
There are a few more people in there. Additionally, if there's a residential neighborhood that has some kind of organization, whether it's an HOA or a neighborhood association or if it's a mud and they have a board, we send a letter to that board or to that president. We also send them an email for the contact information that we have so that they can disseminate that information to their residents. We also are required to post notices in the local newspaper of records, so the round rock leaders where those go out. We post signs. You may have seen our big beautiful ugly yellow sign.

1769
02:10:29,980 --> 02:10:33,860
signs on this property at one point or another, we had them all around downtown for a couple

1770
02:10:33,860 --> 02:10:35,960
of months as we were going through that process as well.

1771
02:10:37,460 --> 02:10:39,800
I think I'm still probably forgetting something in there.

1772
02:10:43,980 --> 02:10:47,740
Signs, mail notices, emails, newspaper, okay, that's it.

1773
02:10:48,760 --> 02:10:49,360
Thank you.

1774
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:52,180
All right.

1775
02:10:53,060 --> 02:10:53,500
Oh.

1776
02:10:56,200 --> 02:11:01,160
I wasn't sure if you knew the answers to his questions about the heat and the frequency

1777
02:11:01,160 --> 02:11:02,140
sound and what.

1778
02:11:02,140 --> 02:11:02,680
I can't know.

1779
02:11:03,140 --> 02:11:04,860
Are you familiar with that at all?

1780
02:11:11,420 --> 02:11:17,680
This sort of sound we would typically be concerned about in light industrial would be that

1781
02:11:17,680 --> 02:11:20,780
normal, normal frequency audible sound.

1782
02:11:21,260 --> 02:11:22,920
So that's why I brought it up.

1783
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:27,300
It's a unique circumstance to the data center as opposed to what would typically be built

1784
02:11:27,300 --> 02:11:27,520
there.

1785
02:11:28,620 --> 02:11:28,920
That's all.

1786
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:36,400
And it would be 24-7, which if you can constantly hear the hum all the time, like that can actually

1787
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,120
have a legitimate health impact on people.

1788
02:11:39,300 --> 02:11:40,240
I forgot that

1789
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:47,960
and I guess just from when we toured Sabi, I mean it was like one room

1790
02:11:47,960 --> 02:11:52,120
that had the hum that was completely closed off and you didn't hear it anywhere else.

1791
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:55,960
I don't know if it's disseminating and we can't hear it or if that's the humming you were

1792
02:11:55,960 --> 02:11:56,560
talking about.

1793
02:11:56,740 --> 02:12:00,120
I just wasn't sure if you knew anything but I guess not.

1794
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:07,980
Well I mean I think the thing is that the thing is is that we haven't gotten any complaints

1795
02:12:07,980 --> 02:12:10,440
from the neighborhood that's were switched.

1796
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:11,920
I mean, they've been there for two years

1797
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:15,500
and we haven't gotten an email or a complaint for noise.

1798
02:12:16,120 --> 02:12:19,200
I mean, we, you know, someone made a comment about,

1799
02:12:19,600 --> 02:12:23,200
you know, comparing, you know, other projects,

1800
02:12:23,340 --> 02:12:25,140
but we only can compare what we have

1801
02:12:25,140 --> 02:12:27,100
that way we can get our data.

1802
02:12:27,800 --> 02:12:31,420
And that's where we get the 15 homes of water use

1803
02:12:31,420 --> 02:12:33,240
because we can look at their water use

1804
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:34,700
and see how that average is out.

1805
02:12:34,700 --> 02:12:38,320
So, you know, those are the things we have to compare.

1806
02:12:38,480 --> 02:12:39,940
We do it on other projects.

1807
02:12:40,140 --> 02:12:42,580
We compare when we're building somewhere else.

1808
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:44,720
We did what we do over on this side.

1809
02:12:45,140 --> 02:12:48,580
So, I mean, that's the points we have.

1810
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:52,280
We can't compare to what they're doing in New York or Chicago

1811
02:12:52,280 --> 02:12:54,080
or Dallas or Fort Worth.

1812
02:12:54,420 --> 02:12:58,780
I mean, you know, so that's where those comparisons come

1813
02:12:58,780 --> 02:13:02,240
to try to get some, you know, as much data and factual data

1814
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:03,480
in front of us.

1815
02:13:03,480 --> 02:13:05,700
So, Simone Morton.

1816
02:13:13,350 --> 02:13:14,470
Hello, City of Round Rock.

1817
02:13:15,090 --> 02:13:19,590
I just want to extend my gratitude for the opportunity to speak about this today.

1818
02:13:21,290 --> 02:13:23,810
I do have a question, if I can ask you all first.

1819
02:13:25,010 --> 02:13:30,070
So outside of a data center, that would be a applicable facility to be built in this zone.

1820
02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:35,810
Can y'all confirm any other type of buildings that could be applicable, like maybe like a grocery

1821
02:13:35,810 --> 02:13:38,070
store, a shelter?

1822
02:13:38,070 --> 02:13:41,450
her. There's there's a list of things.

1823
02:13:42,310 --> 02:13:46,830
Hold on a little earlier. Go ahead and finish her and then we'll put it back up for you.

1824
02:13:46,850 --> 02:13:49,850
Oh, I'm just curious what other type of buildings could be applicable.

1825
02:13:50,170 --> 02:13:59,750
So you can ask that acts, a gun range, um, that clinics. Oh, you know, so just there's

1826
02:13:59,750 --> 02:14:03,990
all kinds of different ones, but they wouldn't have to come to us for any entitlement.

1827
02:14:04,230 --> 02:14:07,530
They could just build whatever they're going to build. Ah, I see.

1828
02:14:07,530 --> 02:14:10,410
within those light industrial standards.

1829
02:14:10,830 --> 02:14:13,510
Yes, this is I'm not a zone expert.

1830
02:14:13,890 --> 02:14:15,410
A commercial or industrial expert.

1831
02:14:15,530 --> 02:14:16,630
I'm not even an engineer.

1832
02:14:18,070 --> 02:14:19,430
I'm not an architect.

1833
02:14:19,910 --> 02:14:22,510
I'm just a 30-year-old girl working from home.

1834
02:14:23,510 --> 02:14:25,510
And then that's not the point I'm trying to make.

1835
02:14:27,170 --> 02:14:29,630
I definitely am not any of those things,

1836
02:14:29,630 --> 02:14:31,870
but I do have a lot of passion.

1837
02:14:32,630 --> 02:14:33,970
And I have a lot of empathy.

1838
02:14:33,970 --> 02:14:40,810
And it's just, it breaks my heart that the world today is prioritizing things that are

1839
02:14:41,530 --> 02:14:45,990
artificially intelligent versus the naturally intelligent that are here.

1840
02:14:47,830 --> 02:14:53,170
And if there's so many other things and opportunities that could be had in this zone specifically

1841
02:14:53,550 --> 02:14:57,050
to benefit the people, to better for the people,

1842
02:14:57,050 --> 02:14:59,970
I personally think that should be taken.

1843
02:15:05,740 --> 02:15:16,340
I understand that there's like a tax benefit for this, but is that what the people wanted? Or is that what, like, y'all want? Or?

1844
02:15:16,580 --> 02:15:28,660
If you want to keep lower property taxes. I personally like taxes, because if it goes to things beneficial, like public transportation are, you know, public schooling.

1845
02:15:30,940 --> 02:15:33,580
homelessness, that probably should be prioritized.

1846
02:15:34,340 --> 02:15:35,160
That is all.

1847
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:36,320
All right.

1848
02:15:36,640 --> 02:15:36,980
Thank you.

1849
02:15:42,430 --> 02:15:43,570
Is it Paul Evans?

1850
02:15:49,600 --> 02:15:49,740
Hi.

1851
02:15:50,020 --> 02:15:50,460
I'm Paul Evans.

1852
02:15:50,760 --> 02:15:50,840
Yeah.

1853
02:15:50,940 --> 02:15:51,880
I'm a software engineer.

1854
02:15:53,560 --> 02:15:56,180
I'm here speaking for the Pioneer Point Community.

1855
02:15:56,320 --> 02:16:03,280
I'm a director on the H.O.A. Board here, and I've had neighbors come to me saying that they

1856
02:16:03,280 --> 02:16:05,800
don't want this data center project there.

1857
02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:10,460
I've had no coming to me saying that they do want it there.

1858
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:19,820
As I said, I've worked as a software engineer since the millennium, so I've seen the two

1859
02:16:19,820 --> 02:16:23,740
year 2000s scare, I've seen the .com crash.

1860
02:16:25,280 --> 02:16:33,560
I've seen those bubbles burst and these AI related investments, they're all coming from

1861
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,500
a central spot, and none of them are making money yet.

1862
02:16:37,420 --> 02:16:39,300
Like, they're still trying to figure out how to make money.

1863
02:16:39,720 --> 02:16:42,620
Like, the other day, I read the chat GPT

1864
02:16:43,240 --> 02:16:45,140
is thinking about paying advertisements

1865
02:16:45,840 --> 02:16:50,040
to try and get on your phone so it can write messages for you,

1866
02:16:50,180 --> 02:16:52,480
whatever, I mean, what happened to humans writing messages

1867
02:16:52,480 --> 02:16:53,320
to each other, right?

1868
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:59,420
So it's saying history doesn't repeat itself, it rhymes,

1869
02:16:59,420 --> 02:16:59,820
and

1870
02:17:02,350 --> 02:17:10,030
it's a bubble and I would really hate for Round Rock to invest in all this or expect

1871
02:17:10,030 --> 02:17:11,550
text revenue from this.

1872
02:17:12,190 --> 02:17:17,850
When next year, if all these investors suddenly decide that they don't like AI anymore,

1873
02:17:18,030 --> 02:17:23,150
the whole thing just comes crashing down and we've committed to this stuff for nothing.

1874
02:17:27,750 --> 02:17:34,140
As far as the technology goes, we already talked about the power usage, I mean, 450 watts

1875
02:17:34,140 --> 02:17:41,840
per GPU, 850 watts per computer. You're going to have thousands of those. Someone mentioned,

1876
02:17:41,900 --> 02:17:48,320
I think, over 10,000 houses worth of electricity or something. We've talked a little bit about

1877
02:17:48,320 --> 02:17:56,480
temperature, like GPUs need to be kept around 150 degrees Fahrenheit. Between 150 and 180 degrees

1878
02:17:56,480 --> 02:18:04,020
Fahrenheit, otherwise they start going out components. You can imagine keeping a room cold for humans to go

1879
02:18:04,020 --> 02:18:12,120
around there, like 74 degrees, it's going to take you more energy. But what really I think

1880
02:18:13,820 --> 02:18:18,320
matches is environmentally like we were talking about the low frequency sound.

1881
02:18:19,740 --> 02:18:26,600
We've just spent all this money on making old settler's park beautiful and low frequency sound

1882
02:18:26,600 --> 02:18:35,660
can go a long way, a long way, and it just seems like a shame to put something that's potentially

1883
02:18:35,660 --> 02:18:45,560
noisy 24-7 in the spot that people enjoy and we've invested a lot of money into. So, yeah,

1884
02:18:45,720 --> 02:18:47,760
I think that's it from me. All right,

1885
02:18:53,320 --> 02:18:58,060
Brian. Did just real quick, so I know, or we know,

1886
02:18:58,060 --> 02:19:03,060
So what HOA associations got the notice?

1887
02:19:03,940 --> 02:19:11,660
It will be for, so in the general rule of thumb is whatever neighborhoods that are captured by that 325 foot buffer we also send the notice to that HOA.

1888
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:15,980
So in this case it would have been the meadows at Chandler Creek mud as well as the homestead at Old Settlers Park.

1889
02:19:17,040 --> 02:19:20,080
So it did go Chandler, it did go to Chandler Creek mud.

1890
02:19:20,340 --> 02:19:21,080
Yes, okay.

1891
02:19:22,480 --> 02:19:24,480
But any other zone in area?

1892
02:19:24,480 --> 02:19:27,460
Yeah. You can see fine at point.

1893
02:19:30,440 --> 02:19:31,920
So it it it it it it it go to

1894
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:34,980
Parliament there point. No, they were outside the 325 foot

1895
02:19:34,980 --> 02:19:38,140
bus. So it went to the homestead homestead homestead old

1896
02:19:38,140 --> 02:19:41,540
settlers part because it captured the 325 foot buffer captured

1897
02:19:41,540 --> 02:19:44,640
just a few houses over here. So we sent a male notice to those

1898
02:19:44,640 --> 02:19:48,480
property owners as well as a notice to that HOA as well as

1899
02:19:48,480 --> 02:19:51,500
anybody within the 325 foot buffer along the southern boundary

1900
02:19:51,500 --> 02:19:56,920
here in the mud. So it's up to the HOA it's up to them to

1901
02:19:56,920 --> 02:19:59,740
to distribute it to their association.

1902
02:20:00,180 --> 02:20:11,520
It is. Right. Okay. Philip Bohannick. If I said that correctly. Sorry about that. Good

1903
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:33,740
evening, Council. Mayor, thank you very much for letting us speak to you today on this matter. So I think I don't want to speak for everybody, but ultimately we're hearing like almost a million dollar increase in taxable base. Not going to be touching our water, not touching our electricity. It almost sounds like it's too good to be true.

1904
02:20:34,420 --> 02:20:56,720
And so I think that that just creates a lot of concern because I understand that they are telling us it's not going to touch the electricity, but everything does feel like it is behind a bit of a black box when it comes to that and on the note of the taxable base, which admittedly yes, that is a huge benefit and I completely understand that a lot of the comps have been in the notes, which thank you for providing that ahead of time as well.

1905
02:20:56,720 --> 02:21:03,700
have been to our homes, which again, most of us are homeowners here, and we have those concerns about our property taxes, and the

1906
02:21:03,700 --> 02:21:07,920
compost of those 500 plus homes equivalent in taxable base.

1907
02:21:08,420 --> 02:21:16,040
But at the end of the day, if this is zoned for light and industrial, what would be the comp for similar businesses that would

1908
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:23,000
fall under that zone, like otherwise Kasa, or I think as a construction company, to the east of it, what's the tax base for that?

1909
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:26,500
And then also what is the economic impact from jobs created?

1910
02:21:26,820 --> 02:21:34,020
I understand that obviously the construction of the data center itself will have a lot of people coming in and out and working on that which is great.

1911
02:21:34,180 --> 02:21:39,200
But then ultimately when it is built, data centers for my understanding are very notoriously not staff very heavily.

1912
02:21:39,240 --> 02:21:45,200
It's not like it's going to be creating a ton of jobs in that regard compared to what Casa, you know,

1913
02:21:45,260 --> 02:21:47,980
I know Casa obviously has fleets of folks in and out which is great.

1914
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:51,100
They're providing a service to the community that is important and is needed.

1915
02:21:51,100 --> 02:22:01,600
And so ultimately, between yes, obviously, the taxable base is great, and they're not utilizing a lot of the services, so the base relative to cost is a strong ratio, admittedly.

1916
02:22:02,220 --> 02:22:18,820
Are there still other factors that we consider with other things that could possibly fall under the LI designation that yes, might have a lower tax base, but have other opportunities to hire people who aren't specialized specifically for these flow number of data center jobs, I think is ultimately the biggest question I would have.

1917
02:22:18,820 --> 02:22:26,300
And then really, I mean, is this, I don't know if there's any way to have a commission to understand better the impact that it would have on our electrical bills.

1918
02:22:26,520 --> 02:22:30,080
I understand the deregulated market, but at the end of the day, it's applying to man.

1919
02:22:30,280 --> 02:22:35,920
There's a lot of reliability concerns that people justifiably have over the last five years that I lived in Round Rock.

1920
02:22:35,920 --> 02:22:41,860
We've had a lot of experiences between, I mean, it was a black swan event with the storm, but even every summer, we're getting emails from ERCOT.

1921
02:22:41,940 --> 02:22:44,000
Hey, put your house at 86 degrees, please.

1922
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:59,800
And like that's untenable, is that going to be that affecting the data center that's right by our neighborhoods like are they going to have to adjust things first before they come to us. I think it's the biggest thing and like really it should be, you know, whatever can be done there to minimize any impact for us. I think it's the biggest thing there. So thank you for your time.

1923
02:22:59,800 --> 02:23:07,080
So real quick so save these the number three this year. They'll be the number three high tax payer in round right, sure

1924
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:09,980
Chasco and

1925
02:23:10,540 --> 02:23:11,520
Casa don't even

1926
02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:17,780
make the top 10 and so you had similar buildings you'd have similar things like that and

1927
02:23:18,460 --> 02:23:20,460
You know you what our job is to do which

1928
02:23:20,980 --> 02:23:28,200
Makes it very hard and special needs in fill in fill properties. I mean round rocks getting there's less land

1929
02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:33,000
I mean, it's just the reality that it's not like Georgetown Taylor where they have gobs

1930
02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:33,500
of land.

1931
02:23:34,620 --> 02:23:40,600
You know, and our job is in these last, you know, our last bit of land to get the highest

1932
02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:44,480
and best use overall for our citizens.

1933
02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:51,880
That may not be a certain service, I mean, just like in this case, it's less traffic.

1934
02:23:52,460 --> 02:23:57,960
If you did try to put, let's just say 500 homes, that would be the equivalent of what was

1935
02:23:57,960 --> 02:24:01,900
paid, you're talking about schools, you're talking about more roads, more police, more fire.

1936
02:24:02,660 --> 02:24:12,500
These businesses use much less in services, even the cost of mechanicals and the chastcos.

1937
02:24:13,020 --> 02:24:17,400
And so I just think that what we have to do in this and what makes it hard and what makes

1938
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:23,200
it tough is trying to figure out what is the highest and best use because on one end we're

1939
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:27,160
here and our taxes are too high, but we're setting this thing where we're about to give

1940
02:24:27,160 --> 02:24:33,840
you, you know, a potential 100 million dollar tax and, you know, to help in the revenue,

1941
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to help keep it, you know, right now, you know, round-rock residents, I gotta be clear.

1942
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People in Chandler mud don't get city of round-rock, they don't pay city of round-rock taxes,

1943
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:49,520
so they're not getting, they may not get the benefit that our taxpayers are who we, you

1944
02:24:49,520 --> 02:24:55,760
have to answer to, but you know, Round Rock taxpayers right now pay about 20% in

1945
02:24:55,760 --> 02:24:59,900
their property taxes for the city. And they get the police fire.

1946
02:25:00,520 --> 02:25:29,980
And all that. So I think that's the things that you have to take in consideration. I mean, I know you asked about the Comparables. I mean, you could put some things there and have an idea. So Casa is three million is what they, they, that's our assessed value. Yeah, versus 200 million. So you, plus, but they're, they're putting people on the roads. So more people, more, you know, so I think those are the things you have to kind of weigh in. Yeah. And so about

1947
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I do, we all appreciate your comments.

1948
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I mean, we appreciate everybody's comments.

1949
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I mean, we're gonna listen and do what we think is the best thing.

1950
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And so, it's all we can.

1951
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No, I don't envy the decisions you have to make so I can plan to understand.

1952
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Ultimately, I understand 200 versus 3 million, but then also jobs impact in some of the middle class,

1953
02:25:52,660 --> 02:25:57,140
working class folks that might be benefiting from that versus the jobs that might be created from this too.

1954
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So, thank you for your comments.

1955
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Thank you all right oh yeah I just wanted to touch base on the unemployment to we had a

1956
02:26:09,240 --> 02:26:16,680
report earlier tonight that showed Round Rock is below the trend on unemployment rate and when

1957
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new businesses do come to Round Rock I know that's always a contingent like do you have workers here

1958
02:26:24,100 --> 02:26:31,260
So, I mean, we have to have a diversity of businesses that come in that do offer a lot

1959
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of jobs and some that don't require a whole lot of employees because we don't have them

1960
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to give and then they have to bring in people which means we need more housing, which means

1961
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we need more roads, which means we need more police and schools and all those things.

1962
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So I think there has to be a balance that we are bringing in businesses that offer jobs

1963
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and businesses that don't require all the services for that.

1964
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So just a different way of thinking we need to be diversified in the businesses that are coming in.

1965
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All right, is it Aaron Hartley?

1966
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Hey all, thank you for your time.

1967
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I live in old settlers of state right across the park.

1968
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We've lived there for six years.

1969
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A little background on me, I've been in energy for 15 years.

1970
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I actually work to keep the grid on here in Texas and multiple other grids.

1971
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My background has been from like oil and gas all the way through.

1972
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I'm right now I'm doing best so I've done a little bit of everything.

1973
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I have a different perspective on this than I've heard from everyone.

1974
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I'm mainly looking at the air quality and the reason for that is I come from a hometown

1975
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where the error there is so bad that if you raise a child a 35 years old it's

1976
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equivalent to them smoking half a pack of cigarettes their whole life and so

1977
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you can look it up right now there's still ranked number one is the worst

1978
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error quality in the United States we moved here both for the recreation part and

1979
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a healthy environment for our children and so I'm a little different than what

1980
02:28:16,380 --> 02:28:21,840
you've heard before I'm not saying no to the data center but I'm saying maybe not

1981
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there. The reason for that is as we've talked about the back of generators but we've also kind

1982
02:28:26,800 --> 02:28:32,020
of glazed over it. The back of generators based on their own numbers are going to put out about

1983
02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:41,920
14,000 tons of air pollution and this is based off the 60 megawatts that they've said based on

1984
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:50,160
generators. Diesel are 30 or then natural gas usually about 1.5 times as much and so is it going

1985
02:28:50,160 --> 02:28:55,940
be the cleanest one? No. Is it going to change the the air environment dramatically? No. But at the end

1986
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of the day, we can only like do so much, right? And so y'all invested and listened to this,

1987
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$220,000 into old settlers part. This facility is going to be less than a mile as the birds fly

1988
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from the park. My kids are there playing. They've been in Brex since we got here. We love that park.

1989
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We've all been there. I was there at the celebration for the kickoff and my question is

1990
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is not should we do a data center, but can we, is this the right spot for it?

1991
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And so, I would just kind of like question that, is it going to dramatically change the

1992
02:29:29,340 --> 02:29:29,960
air quality there?

1993
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Probably not.

1994
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But every little bit helps.

1995
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And this is something y'all can do to make this, do the little thing, right?

1996
02:29:38,640 --> 02:29:40,960
And so again, like, what is the tonnage?

1997
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:41,460
What does that mean?

1998
02:29:41,460 --> 02:29:48,740
So that means one car worth of exhaust for a year this facility is going to put out in

1999
02:29:48,740 --> 02:29:53,020
a week when they're running those generators based on their own assumptions of running

2000
02:29:53,020 --> 02:29:53,620
for one week.

2001
02:29:54,040 --> 02:29:59,200
Now that assumes that the grid's great, it's only emergencies, it's only testing, the part

2002
02:29:59,200 --> 02:29:59,860
that they're not taught.

2003
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:05,520
Meeting about, because I live in this space, is the grid is becoming more unstable. And it's

2004
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not just us, it's PGM, it's ISO New England, it's MISO, it's SQP, these are all the other

2005
02:30:10,300 --> 02:30:11,740
big grids across the country.

2006
02:30:13,760 --> 02:30:17,880
And as it becomes more unstable, they're going to need those

2007
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resources out of time, but I wanted to mention one thing. He did a good description of describing

2008
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:27,160
certain things, but SB6 is different than what he said.

2009
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The airborne standards for Texas are most lenient in the country.

2010
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We're only using the base national standards and certain parts of Texas are exempt, including Round Rock.

2011
02:30:37,340 --> 02:30:46,560
And finally, the last thing is they do run these and they do, like, pay attention to emissions.

2012
02:30:46,660 --> 02:30:51,140
I'm sure they're going to use Cat4, but they're still putting out VOC, NOx,

2013
02:30:51,740 --> 02:30:53,160
sulfur dioxide into the air.

2014
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And those are particulates you can't get back out.

2015
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Thank you. Thank

2016
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you. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Driver.

2017
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Simone Traverse.

2018
02:31:20,860 --> 02:31:24,280
Hey guys. Hello. I'm Simone Traverse. I love off-broken

2019
02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:28,620
shoe drive and round rock. I've been here before, but I try and not come too

2020
02:31:28,620 --> 02:31:32,600
often, because I like to try and decompress in the evenings and the stress is

2021
02:31:32,600 --> 02:31:39,040
me out. So just a quick note, and this is I think Pro Tem, you answered it earlier,

2022
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We are about providing public notices for these sorts of public hearings.

2023
02:31:44,680 --> 02:31:48,300
I 120% I'm sure you guys are following the law.

2024
02:31:48,760 --> 02:31:51,140
I don't think that's ever been a question, right?

2025
02:31:51,740 --> 02:31:57,540
I think when you guys have a City Council meeting with this many people that didn't know it was happening,

2026
02:31:58,080 --> 02:32:03,160
perhaps what we're asking for as citizens is for you guys to maybe live up to our expectations,

2027
02:32:03,800 --> 02:32:06,840
to go above and beyond what you're required to do by the law.

2028
02:32:06,840 --> 02:32:13,560
And maybe when you see this, you can take that as a learning moment and say maybe my city

2029
02:32:13,560 --> 02:32:17,200
doesn't think that I'm telling them about these events.

2030
02:32:17,800 --> 02:32:22,020
Even though you are, there's multiple different places we can find this, but they're obviously

2031
02:32:22,020 --> 02:32:25,520
not getting to the people that want to know about these things.

2032
02:32:25,940 --> 02:32:31,800
We have that amazing social media platform, puts out TikToks as the funniest crap on existence,

2033
02:32:31,980 --> 02:32:32,120
right?

2034
02:32:32,260 --> 02:32:32,860
We all laugh.

2035
02:32:33,400 --> 02:32:34,040
We love it.

2036
02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:39,900
Why not engage them and say, hey, once a week, can you do a post about public notices?

2037
02:32:40,700 --> 02:32:44,140
I'm sure they'll make it the funniest thing ever, and you can fill this room all the time.

2038
02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:47,660
With concerned citizens who actually have questions about what's going on.

2039
02:32:48,300 --> 02:32:49,560
So that was just a side note.

2040
02:32:50,060 --> 02:32:57,960
Thank you for letting me share that just a thought for you guys, so I'm here because as other

2041
02:32:57,960 --> 02:33:01,820
people have mentioned, the community is under year-round water rules.

2042
02:33:01,820 --> 02:33:09,660
And residents like myself have been told we can only water our lawns two days a week, yet somehow we are now considering bringing in a data center.

2043
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:15,900
This would be perfectly fine if data centers were transparent, right?

2044
02:33:16,500 --> 02:33:20,780
But Texas already struggles to track the water use from data centers.

2045
02:33:21,420 --> 02:33:31,220
The Tribune reported earlier this year that the legislature sent out a volunteer survey to water centers or to data centers on their water usage.

2046
02:33:31,220 --> 02:33:34,740
and only one third of them responded with what their water usage was.

2047
02:33:35,300 --> 02:33:38,260
Why would they? They're not required to tell the bad news, right?

2048
02:33:38,780 --> 02:33:43,220
This is a voluntary survey. So we don't have a lot of trust that's been built up

2049
02:33:43,220 --> 02:33:46,860
that these companies are going to be transparent about that water usage.

2050
02:33:47,700 --> 02:33:52,380
So if these projects, you know, this particular one moves forward,

2051
02:33:52,800 --> 02:33:58,900
we need quarterly, publicly available reporting on all water and energy usage.

2052
02:33:58,900 --> 02:34:05,460
No exceptions, no proprietary loopholes, our community deserves to know exactly how much

2053
02:34:05,460 --> 02:34:08,380
of our strain water supply is going to these private corporations.

2054
02:34:09,080 --> 02:34:14,040
And I realize that the gentleman in his presentation and you guys with your research very well put

2055
02:34:14,040 --> 02:34:21,280
together stated that it will use 15 homes yearly water usage.

2056
02:34:22,000 --> 02:34:28,680
So if they have verifiable data, and I understand my times that, but if they have that verifiable

2057
02:34:28,680 --> 02:34:32,480
data from their other local centers because I believe they have one other one in Austin.

2058
02:34:33,160 --> 02:34:33,360
Great.

2059
02:34:33,680 --> 02:34:34,160
Present it.

2060
02:34:34,460 --> 02:34:37,780
Let us see that data that's been verified that this is all we're going to use.

2061
02:34:38,200 --> 02:34:40,220
This closed loop system works great.

2062
02:34:40,440 --> 02:34:41,100
It's the future.

2063
02:34:41,620 --> 02:34:42,700
We're going to be around forever.

2064
02:34:43,060 --> 02:34:43,940
Let's see the data.

2065
02:34:44,360 --> 02:34:46,180
They have another center right down the road.

2066
02:34:46,680 --> 02:34:52,700
If they can prove that they're only using these 15 homes worth of water, I think most of

2067
02:34:52,700 --> 02:34:54,640
this room would be on board with you guys.

2068
02:34:54,640 --> 02:34:59,840
But what has been built up over time is a distrust in these businesses because

2069
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:07,720
They are not transparent with that information. So, you know, if you guys can solve for that, I think you'd have a lot more of the community on board.

2070
02:35:10,580 --> 02:35:12,080
That's what I got because my time's up.

2071
02:35:14,220 --> 02:35:29,980
Do you guys have any questions? No, I don't comment. I think that, you know, and I've seen to your point about your round restrictions. Your round restrictions are not put in because we

2072
02:35:29,980 --> 02:35:30,800
We don't have the water.

2073
02:35:30,980 --> 02:35:36,860
I mean, of all the cities in this central Texas area, Round Rocks poised with their water

2074
02:35:36,860 --> 02:35:41,340
build out than any other city that's about to have to drop hundreds of millions of dollars

2075
02:35:41,340 --> 02:35:47,080
to get where our visionary leaders of the past got us to hear.

2076
02:35:47,300 --> 02:35:52,640
So that's implemented more for just conservation aspects of it.

2077
02:35:52,920 --> 02:35:57,080
It's not because we're running short on water, we're not going to put something in the system

2078
02:35:57,080 --> 02:36:02,380
that we think is going to drain that system without doing the homework.

2079
02:36:02,580 --> 02:36:09,500
I think the question that I have is, you know, one data center may use in water

2080
02:36:09,500 --> 02:36:15,060
because it may be bigger versus what one will use that smaller, you know,

2081
02:36:15,120 --> 02:36:16,840
it's not an apples to apples thing.

2082
02:36:17,060 --> 02:36:19,380
So, I think you can do the math on that pretty easily.

2083
02:36:19,460 --> 02:36:20,120
It's just algebra.

2084
02:36:20,980 --> 02:36:23,520
Well, I mean, we can agree to disagree on it.

2085
02:36:23,700 --> 02:36:27,060
But I think that's the-

2086
02:36:27,060 --> 02:36:29,360
But any amount of data on this would be helpful.

2087
02:36:29,700 --> 02:36:36,220
And right now all we have is the word and the prayer of the future potential things that

2088
02:36:36,220 --> 02:36:39,960
we could use from someone who is trying to get something from you.

2089
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:41,380
We're not stupid.

2090
02:36:41,700 --> 02:36:42,320
You're not stupid.

2091
02:36:42,720 --> 02:36:43,820
All right.

2092
02:36:44,000 --> 02:36:44,480
Thank you.

2093
02:36:44,580 --> 02:36:45,040
Thanks, guys.

2094
02:36:48,850 --> 02:36:49,870
Third Joe Gonzalez.

2095
02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:03,700
Hi, everybody.

2096
02:37:04,380 --> 02:37:08,240
To the honorable mayor and members of the Round Rock City Council.

2097
02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:13,900
So my name is Sergio Gonzalez, I'm an IT professional, or 25 years of experience.

2098
02:37:14,600 --> 02:37:19,780
And I reside in the homestead at Old Settler's Park, a community immediately jazzed into

2099
02:37:19,780 --> 02:37:23,340
the proposed skywalks, Old Centre's bus site.

2100
02:37:23,900 --> 02:37:27,260
I stand before you tonight, not just as a resident, but as an advocate for the long-term health

2101
02:37:27,260 --> 02:37:28,620
and stability of our community.

2102
02:37:30,340 --> 02:37:34,740
We recognize the economic desire to host the center, it has been widely covered.

2103
02:37:34,960 --> 02:37:36,080
I understand the numbers.

2104
02:37:37,620 --> 02:37:42,460
But we must ask at what cost to our quality of life?

2105
02:37:43,680 --> 02:37:46,760
The core concerns of the neighbor have shared regarding the proposed data center involved

2106
02:37:46,760 --> 02:37:51,180
pollution, health risk, increased services costs, and potential property devaluation,

2107
02:37:51,180 --> 02:37:56,320
and this has been covered in the news and has been shown across the nation.

2108
02:37:57,460 --> 02:38:01,020
While the data centers in Round Rock, City Wealth page attempts to mitigate some of these

2109
02:38:01,020 --> 02:38:05,640
fears by citing log traffic impacts on the use of closed-loop cooling systems, several critical

2110
02:38:05,640 --> 02:38:10,860
issues remain on that rest. The specific quality of the city's communication does not fully cover

2111
02:38:10,860 --> 02:38:17,440
the documented public health consequences, stemming from data center operations. Cancer has been

2112
02:38:17,440 --> 02:38:22,520
mentioned. Cancer has been occurring in increased rates in certain places because of data centers.

2113
02:38:22,620 --> 02:38:27,800
It has been studied. Nor does it acknowledge the full financial burden placed on rate payers.

2114
02:38:28,860 --> 02:38:33,440
The challenges posed by this industry are national, but they're especially impactful here in Texas.

2115
02:38:33,440 --> 02:38:36,980
Nois pollution is one of the most impactful general concerns.

2116
02:38:37,760 --> 02:38:44,800
In Granbury, Texas, residents near a bicon mine reported experiencing excruciating migraines,

2117
02:38:45,260 --> 02:38:48,440
hearing loss and panic attacks due to the noise from calling fans.

2118
02:38:49,360 --> 02:38:55,080
This noise, someone has mentioned it, is often a low frequency visceral home that is difficult

2119
02:38:55,080 --> 02:38:58,080
to block and can stress cardiovascular systems.

2120
02:38:58,780 --> 02:39:02,940
While Round Rock requires compliance with the seeding noise ordinance, this continues

2121
02:39:02,940 --> 02:39:05,680
industrial scale noise often proves incompatible

2122
02:39:05,680 --> 02:39:06,740
where residential areas.

2123
02:39:07,840 --> 02:39:11,480
Furthermore, water scarcity is a high impact Texas concern.

2124
02:39:12,220 --> 02:39:15,400
Although the PUD mandates a closed loop system,

2125
02:39:16,300 --> 02:39:17,880
experts warn this is a fallacy

2126
02:39:17,880 --> 02:39:20,700
because the closed loop system is wind the servers.

2127
02:39:21,160 --> 02:39:23,480
There is an external calling second loop

2128
02:39:23,480 --> 02:39:27,680
that requires something to extract that heat

2129
02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:28,440
into the environment.

2130
02:39:28,860 --> 02:39:32,140
It usually combines settings with evaporating,

2131
02:39:32,140 --> 02:39:33,840
depending on what the system does.

2132
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:37,540
So it's not per se a closed loop.

2133
02:39:39,880 --> 02:39:45,320
And this could potentially generate a case

2134
02:39:45,320 --> 02:39:47,080
in which millions of gallons of water

2135
02:39:47,080 --> 02:39:48,600
have been can be lost.

2136
02:39:48,880 --> 02:39:50,940
And this has been documented in data centers

2137
02:39:50,940 --> 02:39:52,160
that use closed loop.

2138
02:39:52,780 --> 02:39:54,100
Given that Texas is water stress

2139
02:39:54,100 --> 02:39:55,900
and does not typically prevent data centers

2140
02:39:55,900 --> 02:39:57,540
from using drinking water,

2141
02:39:57,780 --> 02:39:58,900
this strain is particularly acute.

2142
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:28,660
Increasing cost and I know I'm running out of time. Power must be generated from somewhere. And investments have been recently made in order to power large scale consumers. And this has been documented in that haircut is going to invest. And this this eventually has to be paid by taxpayers by consumers by everyone.

2143
02:40:29,940 --> 02:40:34,260
So I appeal to you, Council members, to put the health and long-term financial stability

2144
02:40:34,260 --> 02:40:37,060
of your constituents about short-term economic gains.

2145
02:40:37,660 --> 02:40:40,720
Numbers look fine, but in the end, we all worry.

2146
02:40:40,940 --> 02:40:47,260
This technology is not just offering tax revenue to the cities, but the technologies that

2147
02:40:47,260 --> 02:40:51,140
are currently being invested is in AI, which is actually after jobs.

2148
02:40:51,560 --> 02:40:56,580
It's currently replacing jobs, and its aim is to actually replace human jobs.

2149
02:40:56,580 --> 02:40:59,480
So just very ready to consideration.

2150
02:40:59,480 --> 02:41:00,500
Thank you for your time.

2151
02:41:01,080 --> 02:41:01,360
Thank you.

2152
02:41:08,180 --> 02:41:09,220
Lily Trevino.

2153
02:41:24,290 --> 02:41:24,810
Thank you, guys.

2154
02:41:25,010 --> 02:41:25,230
Hello.

2155
02:41:26,810 --> 02:41:34,470
I come here as a lifelong native Texan who fell into this pretty out of nowhere.

2156
02:41:34,470 --> 02:41:41,210
I think I heard a lot of people today saying that they found out about this less than a week ago,

2157
02:41:41,210 --> 02:41:47,070
two nights a couple a couple days ago. And again, from sites like Nextdoor and

2158
02:41:47,070 --> 02:41:51,870
Facebook posts, not from the city, although I believe you guys, that you did

2159
02:41:51,870 --> 02:41:57,130
your best. It looks like maybe the HOA people didn't forward that, maybe

2160
02:41:57,130 --> 02:42:01,390
something to investigate of what happened with that lack of communication or

2161
02:42:01,390 --> 02:42:07,110
miscommunication there. Everybody's had wonderful points tonight that I don't

2162
02:42:07,110 --> 02:42:16,050
repeat. My main concern, I come here speaking for Texas water that we have such a precious

2163
02:42:16,050 --> 02:42:22,990
and unique ecosystem here in Texas. The Edwards aquifer, you know, I grew up always pretty much

2164
02:42:22,990 --> 02:42:27,650
living in Barton Springs and going to the little visitor center there, they used to have

2165
02:42:27,650 --> 02:42:33,470
this great thing you could go in and learn about the aquifer. And I remember just being obsessed

2166
02:42:33,470 --> 02:42:39,890
when I was a kid. When we take all that water out there, it's going to, there's no fixing it.

2167
02:42:40,330 --> 02:42:47,430
There's no repairing the aquifer. There's no, I mean, we have some recharge technology, but that's very,

2168
02:42:49,310 --> 02:42:53,570
it's not foolproof and it's not long-term sustainable. So I want to

2169
02:42:55,110 --> 02:43:02,130
bring this up so that we can look holistically at data centers across Texas. I know that we have

2170
02:43:02,130 --> 02:43:04,890
of over 300, at least maybe almost 400,

2171
02:43:05,030 --> 02:43:06,410
depending on what article you find

2172
02:43:06,410 --> 02:43:08,190
across the state of Texas already.

2173
02:43:09,010 --> 02:43:12,050
And they mostly follow between the DFW

2174
02:43:12,050 --> 02:43:13,650
to the San Antonio Corridor,

2175
02:43:13,850 --> 02:43:16,050
which sits again right above Edwards Aquifer

2176
02:43:16,050 --> 02:43:18,730
and the Trinity and the other systems

2177
02:43:18,730 --> 02:43:20,010
that we have here in Texas.

2178
02:43:20,330 --> 02:43:23,290
And inevitably, that's where the water is coming from.

2179
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:27,650
And we saw it here last year right in our backyard,

2180
02:43:27,950 --> 02:43:30,270
Georgetown, the effects of flooding

2181
02:43:30,270 --> 02:43:34,250
that is coming in, even like everywhere,

2182
02:43:34,390 --> 02:43:36,990
it's happening everywhere, right in our backyard,

2183
02:43:37,900 --> 02:43:42,790
due to poor soil conservation, too much runoff,

2184
02:43:42,990 --> 02:43:46,070
concrete, endless, you know, waves of concrete

2185
02:43:46,070 --> 02:43:48,450
that the water just doesn't have anywhere else to go.

2186
02:43:48,950 --> 02:43:52,110
So I understand the financial incentives,

2187
02:43:52,550 --> 02:43:55,570
but I hope that Round Rock will choose to stand out

2188
02:43:55,570 --> 02:43:58,450
in a way that is different and unique.

2189
02:43:58,450 --> 02:44:04,810
the rest of Texas we've got plenty of data centers we have at least nine or so already in the area

2190
02:44:07,290 --> 02:44:12,790
so why why one more but we probably won't get any change on this right now but let's

2191
02:44:12,790 --> 02:44:18,750
remember and take this seriously for the future that you see now how your citizens are ready to

2192
02:44:18,750 --> 02:44:25,370
get up and show up when they're able to and make their voices heard and nobody wants this in their

2193
02:44:25,370 --> 02:44:27,290
back yard. Thank you.

2194
02:44:35,160 --> 02:44:36,480
Gary Odom. Good

2195
02:44:49,630 --> 02:44:52,930
evening. I'm Gary Odom. I'm a 20-year resident of the

2196
02:44:52,930 --> 02:44:56,350
Estates. It's a Siddler's Park neighborhood in Northeastern Round Rock.

2197
02:44:57,630 --> 02:44:59,990
I'm certainly planning to talk about some things night in many of this.

2198
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:18,340
It has been covered, but I need to set the record straight on some of the things we've heard tonight. The explosive growth in data centers here in Texas and around the country is for AI. It's not for streaming Netflix. It's not for sending emails. It is explicitly to support the growth of AI, which may be approaching a bubble that will burst and leave an industrial wasteland of data centers.

2199
02:45:21,630 --> 02:45:31,690
Texas Energy Demand, electricity demand, is expected to double by 2030. That's five years from now. That's being driven by data center growth.

2200
02:45:33,230 --> 02:45:36,790
Yes, Sky Boxing Webber has to connect to the grid at their expense.

2201
02:45:37,430 --> 02:45:42,970
The grid is going to power generation, whether you buy it direct through a TXU or through

2202
02:45:42,970 --> 02:45:48,430
a reseller, it's still coming from the same place and the requirement to generate more

2203
02:45:48,430 --> 02:45:52,610
power is going to be very substantial.

2204
02:45:52,870 --> 02:45:53,950
And guess who pays for that?

2205
02:45:54,110 --> 02:45:54,810
All of us do.

2206
02:45:55,070 --> 02:45:59,250
Ray payers are going to pay for that because it can't be attributed to a Sky Box or a Savi.

2207
02:45:59,250 --> 02:46:04,590
It's for the underlying infrastructure, and we will all pay for that, do not be misled.

2208
02:46:06,350 --> 02:46:14,650
I think it's been made clear tonight that, well, you appreciate big business more than you do residents because they pay more taxes.

2209
02:46:15,730 --> 02:46:18,750
But we are the ones living here and having our quality of life affected.

2210
02:46:19,190 --> 02:46:22,930
Several people have talked about citizen participation and notices.

2211
02:46:22,930 --> 02:46:30,450
You complied with the law, kind of, citizen engagement can be had if that's what you really want.

2212
02:46:32,030 --> 02:46:35,410
These folks are all here because we've learned about this and I'll ask a couple of days

2213
02:46:35,410 --> 02:46:39,910
when we manage to get organized, hundreds of e-nails came our way, all these speakers have

2214
02:46:39,910 --> 02:46:43,870
signed up because we care about our community and we want to have input.

2215
02:46:44,550 --> 02:46:49,050
You may have met the letter of the law, you haven't met the spirit of the law, the sign

2216
02:46:49,690 --> 02:46:51,830
facing old settlers at this property.

2217
02:46:51,830 --> 02:46:55,430
I went to look for it after I first learned about this from the Community Impact

2218
02:46:55,430 --> 02:46:59,970
Story. Couldn't see one. I parked my car on Kippin Road. I played Frogger with my

2219
02:46:59,970 --> 02:47:05,610
life, crossing old settlers on foot, and walked the length of that property twice.

2220
02:47:05,750 --> 02:47:10,810
Before I noticed a sign laying face down in the driveway stub, there at 2601.

2221
02:47:11,390 --> 02:47:15,250
Being a good citizen, I set it upright, so theoretically it's visible. But it's

2222
02:47:15,250 --> 02:47:19,430
positioned in a driveway stub, unless you're looking 90 degrees to your right,

2223
02:47:19,430 --> 02:47:23,190
While you're driving 45 miles an hour or more, that's a speed limit there.

2224
02:47:23,750 --> 02:47:26,370
Negotiating an S-curve, you don't know that sign exists.

2225
02:47:26,750 --> 02:47:33,230
And if you want to read it, you have to park and play Frogger like I did to walk up to it and see a generic URL to go for public notices.

2226
02:47:34,090 --> 02:47:36,310
That's not how you get people engaged and involved.

2227
02:47:37,130 --> 02:47:38,410
And we're entitled to that.

2228
02:47:38,530 --> 02:47:42,410
We need a voice, we need participation.

2229
02:47:43,930 --> 02:47:46,430
The city's great about doing PR after the deal is done.

2230
02:47:46,430 --> 02:47:48,930
You're not so good at getting citizens engaged up front.

2231
02:47:48,930 --> 02:47:52,460
and we deserve that. Thank you.

2232
02:47:59,480 --> 02:48:00,680
David Leibwood.

2233
02:48:06,780 --> 02:48:10,440
David Leibwood. Going once.

2234
02:48:19,550 --> 02:48:22,330
Is it Omar or is

2235
02:48:25,530 --> 02:48:31,790
it Omar? Thank you for your try. Sorry, I didn't want to butchered. Yeah, it's okay.

2236
02:48:32,930 --> 02:48:41,530
Hi, Mayor and City Council. I'm on the table so I live in Round Rock West. I have a PhD

2237
02:48:41,530 --> 02:48:49,670
in industrial engineering and I work as a research scientist in tech and my concerns first

2238
02:48:50,850 --> 02:48:57,930
there's an indication that the data center building Oregon in 2011 is increasing the cancer

2239
02:48:57,930 --> 02:49:05,790
rates in the area and that's the reason it's increasing the pollution within the water even though

2240
02:49:05,790 --> 02:49:13,170
the close systems are there, they still use water and return it back to the community and through the

2241
02:49:13,170 --> 02:49:18,010
vaporization they are increasing the pollution levels in there. So my first question is are there any

2242
02:49:18,010 --> 02:49:24,810
studies about the water returning from this data centers that how polluted they are or are they

2243
02:49:24,810 --> 02:49:32,750
increasing the pollution levels? Secondly, the data set that they are going to use about 15 houses

2244
02:49:32,750 --> 02:49:39,010
of water, I find that misleading if it's not a dry apply because I think within the data

2245
02:49:39,010 --> 02:49:45,090
it says they will tap the water as necessary and I don't think that's included within the

2246
02:49:45,090 --> 02:49:50,890
data that they have shared so what is the real water requirements for these data centers,

2247
02:49:50,890 --> 02:49:59,930
it would be great if we can get real values on that. We have heard about electricity from

2248
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:29,860
So many people, I think we heard the word salad about it, how it's free market, and there are many contributing factors into it. It's true, but that's why we have scientists. What is the main, what's the individual contribution of these data centers to our electricity prices? I think that would be great to know and how much is it going to be

2249
02:50:29,860 --> 02:50:36,600
offset by the property taxes versus how much are we going to pay extra for them?

2250
02:50:37,540 --> 02:50:46,260
So I think there's a not enough data to understand their impact and it would be great if

2251
02:50:46,260 --> 02:50:48,100
you can learn more about them.

2252
02:50:48,600 --> 02:50:48,900
Thank you.

2253
02:50:49,240 --> 02:50:52,900
I will say the water data that we got that's from our own folks.

2254
02:50:53,340 --> 02:50:55,000
We know what they used in a year.

2255
02:50:55,820 --> 02:50:59,300
Not the ones that's coming, but the ones that's on the ground.

2256
02:50:59,300 --> 02:51:01,140
That's where we got the 15 homes.

2257
02:51:01,380 --> 02:51:05,200
We know how much it produced for the year,

2258
02:51:05,620 --> 02:51:08,980
and then we equated that to how many homes,

2259
02:51:09,180 --> 02:51:10,080
what they use.

2260
02:51:10,620 --> 02:51:12,760
So it's not the, I just want to make sure it's,

2261
02:51:12,920 --> 02:51:15,660
it's not sky box, it's giving us that data.

2262
02:51:16,180 --> 02:51:19,340
Okay, so can we have confirmation that this,

2263
02:51:19,440 --> 02:51:22,180
this is the total water usage,

2264
02:51:22,180 --> 02:51:26,440
not just the cleaning stuff that they are using,

2265
02:51:26,440 --> 02:51:30,680
but does it include or exclude the top enough?

2266
02:51:31,240 --> 02:51:31,920
I will ask.

2267
02:51:32,360 --> 02:51:32,800
Thank you.

2268
02:51:33,020 --> 02:51:33,500
Yeah, no problem.

2269
02:51:34,380 --> 02:51:34,800
Do we know?

2270
02:51:36,690 --> 02:51:38,670
Do we know if that includes anything?

2271
02:51:39,410 --> 02:51:39,750
Okay.

2272
02:51:40,470 --> 02:51:41,470
Everything that, sir.

2273
02:51:42,450 --> 02:51:44,410
Everything that was metered to the property.

2274
02:51:45,290 --> 02:51:46,150
So everything.

2275
02:51:47,570 --> 02:51:48,150
All right.

2276
02:51:50,070 --> 02:51:51,210
Marino Grady.

2277
02:52:08,340 --> 02:52:10,920
I'm here to add my voice to my neighbors.

2278
02:52:12,560 --> 02:52:16,760
disagreeing with this proposed data center that's coming in.

2279
02:52:17,600 --> 02:52:21,000
Texas has extreme drought and unstable power grid.

2280
02:52:21,480 --> 02:52:22,620
We have extreme heat here.

2281
02:52:22,820 --> 02:52:26,480
This seems like a very, just in general, a terrible place to put data centers.

2282
02:52:27,920 --> 02:52:31,740
And, you know, this is potentially the fifth data center that's going to be coming into

2283
02:52:31,740 --> 02:52:32,220
Round Rock.

2284
02:52:32,540 --> 02:52:35,740
You know, we're squeezing 10,000 gallons of blood from a stone.

2285
02:52:37,000 --> 02:52:42,020
I'd also like to return to something one of my earlier neighbor said she was speaking

2286
02:52:42,020 --> 02:52:45,140
about the survey that went out.

2287
02:52:45,760 --> 02:52:49,960
So there actually was a survey that the Water Board tried to get some information in

2288
02:52:49,960 --> 02:52:56,020
2024 from the 70 existing data centers that are, you know, were already built in Texas.

2289
02:52:56,640 --> 02:53:02,000
Only about 30% got back to them even though there was a, you know, a minimal fine because

2290
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:04,420
because it was required by law to respond,

2291
02:53:04,720 --> 02:53:06,160
but they chose to pay that fine,

2292
02:53:06,500 --> 02:53:08,440
instead of being transparent with their numbers.

2293
02:53:09,100 --> 02:53:11,140
So this actually affects the future planning

2294
02:53:11,780 --> 02:53:12,860
by the water board.

2295
02:53:13,360 --> 02:53:15,240
So that leaves them in the dark

2296
02:53:15,240 --> 02:53:17,940
and knowing how much water we're going to need.

2297
02:53:18,440 --> 02:53:20,900
This goes back to what a lot of my neighbors have been saying

2298
02:53:20,900 --> 02:53:22,000
about this closed loop,

2299
02:53:22,560 --> 02:53:24,480
where we're not really sure that, you know,

2300
02:53:24,920 --> 02:53:26,660
you can say a lot of things about how

2301
02:53:26,660 --> 02:53:28,720
it's not going to need additional water.

2302
02:53:28,840 --> 02:53:29,980
We actually don't know.

2303
02:53:30,460 --> 02:53:36,840
You spoke about how we have data from those two existing data centers that are in-round

2304
02:53:36,840 --> 02:53:37,140
rock.

2305
02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:39,500
Those have only been here for about two years, I believe.

2306
02:53:39,880 --> 02:53:43,080
So we don't really know how much water they're going to need as they age.

2307
02:53:43,640 --> 02:53:50,100
We're not going to need no, you know, two years isn't a lot of data and two centers also

2308
02:53:50,100 --> 02:53:50,920
isn't a lot of data.

2309
02:53:51,480 --> 02:53:57,420
We really don't have these numbers and I'd really, you know, just like to add my voice to

2310
02:53:57,420 --> 02:54:06,200
say that we really aren't a big fan of this, especially near all these residential areas.

2311
02:54:07,240 --> 02:54:12,380
You know, you say that this is our use zone for late industrial use, but when you say things

2312
02:54:12,380 --> 02:54:18,200
like vet centers, I think a charter school was mentioned, those things add value to the community.

2313
02:54:18,860 --> 02:54:25,960
Sure, they add more traffic, but it's not an empty box filled with quiet,

2314
02:54:28,520 --> 02:54:39,180
And it's adding value to the community, it's not just something that's probably going to be empty in 10 years, so I think that's a really big part of what we are here to say.

2315
02:54:39,600 --> 02:54:39,860
Thank you.

2316
02:54:40,240 --> 02:54:41,640
So let me ask you questions.

2317
02:54:42,680 --> 02:54:50,040
So, you know, I was setting up here when the charter school came up and there were people that were speaking against it because they didn't want to draw the road draw through.

2318
02:54:50,040 --> 02:54:56,520
So what what what does someone want there? I mean, do you want a gun range? I mean, would you want a gun range in that?

2319
02:54:57,140 --> 02:54:59,860
That I mean and where I got more I'm going with it is

2320
02:55:00,180 --> 02:55:29,840
Property owners have the right, and we have the right if we want to buy the land. Right? I mean, I mean, these, these, you know, Texas has always been a property right state and allows people to sell their property at the, the, the highest and the best use. And so, you know, we've had the, like I said, the charter school, we had a number of folks come in, they didn't want the charter school. So if it's not the charter school, and if it's not the data center, then, I mean, what is it? I mean,

2321
02:55:29,840 --> 02:55:34,540
I mean, something deserves to go there because they own the land.

2322
02:55:34,740 --> 02:55:43,280
I mean, again, we all as individuals have the right to go by any private property up that we want to make sure that nothing goes there if we wanted.

2323
02:55:43,800 --> 02:55:44,920
But that's not realistic.

2324
02:55:45,840 --> 02:55:50,480
And so I just, I struggle with what does, what does the neighborhood want?

2325
02:55:50,600 --> 02:55:58,620
If they don't want the charter school, if they don't want, I promise you, if we had UPS or Amazon looking at this site,

2326
02:55:58,620 --> 02:56:03,020
We'd have same amount of people just like we did on the east sub in this happen.

2327
02:56:04,360 --> 02:56:09,560
It's, it's, it's, they calls pollution, you know, they got tons of cars on the road in and out.

2328
02:56:09,960 --> 02:56:13,040
I mean, so I just, I struggle with what would you want there?

2329
02:56:13,660 --> 02:56:18,060
So I'm not really speaking to this other things, I'm speaking to this data center that we're here to talk about.

2330
02:56:19,040 --> 02:56:22,220
So personally, I think a charter school would be great, you know, we're educating children.

2331
02:56:23,020 --> 02:56:27,740
That's value to the community, I think, you know, it would be really easy to be mayor of a bunch

2332
02:56:27,740 --> 02:56:32,800
of empty boxes that give you a lot of money, what we're asking for is investment in the

2333
02:56:32,800 --> 02:56:37,540
community. A gun range, that employs people. People are there having fun, learning how

2334
02:56:37,540 --> 02:56:45,600
to safely use weapons. I mean, you're going to find pushback from anything, you know, probably

2335
02:56:45,600 --> 02:56:49,660
that's going to go there. I'm here to talk about this data center, which I think is a uniquely

2336
02:56:49,660 --> 02:56:53,300
the poor use of this land, a poor use of Texas land.

2337
02:56:54,100 --> 02:57:00,620
And I think just the, there's really great horrible things about the data center.

2338
02:57:00,720 --> 02:57:01,840
All right, thank you.

2339
02:57:02,080 --> 02:57:02,380
Thank you.

2340
02:57:08,310 --> 02:57:09,450
Sir Macmillan.

2341
02:57:11,600 --> 02:57:14,140
Sir Macmillan, okay, sorry I didn't,

2342
02:57:25,590 --> 02:57:26,070
how are you?

2343
02:57:26,270 --> 02:57:27,190
For the opportunity, I'm great.

2344
02:57:27,790 --> 02:57:29,290
My name is Sir Macmillan.

2345
02:57:30,170 --> 02:57:35,050
I'm a homeowner at Chandler Creek neighborhood, and my house is actually the house.

2346
02:57:35,050 --> 02:57:37,450
at the very end of the dead in street

2347
02:57:37,950 --> 02:57:40,450
that completely lines the field.

2348
02:57:40,810 --> 02:57:42,510
I also was here for the charter school

2349
02:57:42,910 --> 02:57:45,310
and I was one of the people that didn't want

2350
02:57:45,310 --> 02:57:47,490
the road to be opened and I still feel that way.

2351
02:57:47,990 --> 02:57:50,010
But I would much rather have a charter school now

2352
02:57:50,010 --> 02:57:53,410
or a gun range, so we'll go that route.

2353
02:57:55,050 --> 02:57:57,010
I do have a few things to say

2354
02:57:57,010 --> 02:57:58,730
just to address some of the comments.

2355
02:57:59,410 --> 02:58:01,710
As far as the notices of the hearings,

2356
02:58:02,430 --> 02:58:04,550
I'm probably the only one besides my husband

2357
02:58:04,550 --> 02:58:11,990
who even saw the sign. So there was one sign put at the very end of the dead and road that was

2358
02:58:11,990 --> 02:58:19,190
literally in front of just barriers, right, that we have concrete barriers. Our house is the only

2359
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:23,550
one you actually have to turn down the street to go to anyone's house. Our neighbors right on the

2360
02:58:23,550 --> 02:58:29,870
right of us, they just kind of like pull right into their driveway. So no one turns down that road

2361
02:58:29,870 --> 02:58:31,250
to see any of the signs.

2362
02:58:31,590 --> 02:58:33,070
There were no signs put at the beginning

2363
02:58:33,070 --> 02:58:34,830
of any of the interest to our neighborhood.

2364
02:58:35,370 --> 02:58:37,490
In fact, the only notice I got in the mail

2365
02:58:37,490 --> 02:58:39,390
was for the November 4th hearing.

2366
02:58:39,790 --> 02:58:42,370
This hearing today, the only reason I knew about it

2367
02:58:42,370 --> 02:58:45,170
is because I was emailing, and I believe Brad here

2368
02:58:45,170 --> 02:58:47,270
was the one that actually emailed me the information

2369
02:58:47,710 --> 02:58:50,670
of where this one was, because the actual hearing

2370
02:58:50,670 --> 02:58:54,250
in November was downtown rapper on the other side,

2371
02:58:54,550 --> 02:58:56,490
and that's where that one was located if I remember correctly.

2372
02:58:57,410 --> 02:59:11,150
So that being said, I can understand the frustration of everybody in this room that had no idea that this is going on and I don't care if you, you know, live over 300 feet or 350 or whatever from this, you're impacted by this.

2373
02:59:11,490 --> 02:59:18,470
Okay, and I have a lot of touch points that have been addressed so I'm not going to beat a dead horse with this.

2374
02:59:18,470 --> 02:59:22,290
But I feel like one of the big things that people aren't talking about

2375
02:59:23,050 --> 02:59:26,450
besides the impact to wildlife that is in that field,

2376
02:59:27,010 --> 02:59:30,350
which by the way houses hawks and owls and

2377
02:59:30,350 --> 02:59:34,830
beautiful bobcats and all sorts of insane, beautiful wildlife,

2378
02:59:35,130 --> 02:59:38,670
is the fact that there is about to be a substation built

2379
02:59:38,670 --> 02:59:41,950
right in our backyard, okay?

2380
02:59:42,830 --> 02:59:47,170
Parcel 2, I get that Parcel 3 is 80 feet whatever, right?

2381
02:59:47,170 --> 02:59:57,630
But an eight-foot tall wall is not going to hide some substitution that is towering over the houses, right?

2382
02:59:58,210 --> 02:59:59,970
And in fact, there's a substitution that's literally...

2383
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,920
The two streets away. In fact, North Crossing Trail in the same neighborhood, which all talked about. So, now we're going to have two of those right next to each other, which absolutely is insane and talk about noise, low hum, high humming, whatever. There are so many studies that have gone on about the potential dangers and harm of what comes from these substations. Okay. The lecture of magnetic fields. And again, the low hum. I feel like that's

2384
03:00:29,920 --> 03:00:34,200
to be the worst. Thank you for your time. That's all I have.

2385
03:00:39,810 --> 03:00:41,090
Justin, thank you, Julie.

2386
03:00:48,240 --> 03:00:48,760
Good evening.

2387
03:00:48,880 --> 03:00:52,620
Good evening, all again. I know you all might remember me from the original zoning of

2388
03:00:52,620 --> 03:00:58,620
this property. I'm really proud of all of my neighbors and fellow citizens that came out

2389
03:00:58,620 --> 03:01:05,220
to voice their concern with this data center. The reactions and the combativeness that I've

2390
03:01:05,220 --> 03:01:10,040
received from you guys is a little disappointing. I feel like you guys have made up your decision

2391
03:01:10,040 --> 03:01:15,800
prior to this hearing. And this is ultimately just a facade for us to feel like we have a voice

2392
03:01:15,800 --> 03:01:22,840
and being able to change your opinion or what you plan on doing. Everyone has made wonderful points.

2393
03:01:23,240 --> 03:01:27,760
All of the points that I was going to make has been made. Obviously, I live very close to the

2394
03:01:27,760 --> 03:01:33,860
lady that was just here. That parcel two is right there, right? We're definitely going to see

2395
03:01:33,860 --> 03:01:39,500
that. The low humming, we're going to hear that. I'm also working IT. I don't know what room you were

2396
03:01:39,500 --> 03:01:43,980
in that was had the low humming, but there's, I've been to multiple data centers and they

2397
03:01:43,980 --> 03:01:49,980
are very loved. And that sub, that low frequency does travel miles, so everybody's had fantastic

2398
03:01:49,980 --> 03:01:57,720
points about it affecting parks in the residents. Obviously, we were talking about the electricity

2399
03:01:57,720 --> 03:02:03,120
options here. Clearly we have deregulation, everybody can choose what they want, but if there's

2400
03:02:03,120 --> 03:02:08,160
a bigger strain on the grid altogether, those prices are going to go up, so that's a new

2401
03:02:08,160 --> 03:02:15,060
point and it's a bit insulting to say that. Any questions from you guys? Any questions?

2402
03:02:17,740 --> 03:02:19,600
No, I don't have any. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Tom.

2403
03:02:26,750 --> 03:02:27,450
Eva Shakir.

2404
03:02:42,450 --> 03:02:47,270
Sorry about the yoga pants. I came so last minute. I just heard about this.

2405
03:02:47,490 --> 03:02:57,070
Yeah. All right. So Mayor, council members, I'm going to read a little statement. So my name is Eva Shakir.

2406
03:02:57,070 --> 03:02:59,630
and I live in the homestead at Old Settlers.

2407
03:03:01,370 --> 03:03:03,430
I live actually in the first house

2408
03:03:03,430 --> 03:03:05,910
by the roundabout when you first enter.

2409
03:03:08,350 --> 03:03:10,290
So basically, I'm here tonight

2410
03:03:10,290 --> 03:03:12,750
because this decision affects every part of our lives,

2411
03:03:13,010 --> 03:03:15,910
our peace, our homes, our children, and our future.

2412
03:03:16,670 --> 03:03:19,830
Across the US, whatever data centers are built

2413
03:03:19,830 --> 03:03:21,550
next to neighborhoods, families,

2414
03:03:22,010 --> 03:03:23,730
experienced falling property values,

2415
03:03:24,330 --> 03:03:25,610
constant low frequency noise,

2416
03:03:25,610 --> 03:03:30,890
vibration and feeling that their community has been transformed into an industrial zone.

2417
03:03:31,210 --> 03:03:33,310
That is the reality we're asked to accept.

2418
03:03:33,910 --> 03:03:38,510
While I understand the financial benefit, this facility would run 24-7 with industrial

2419
03:03:38,510 --> 03:03:44,490
cooling equipment, generators, and substation directly behind our homes and next to old settlers

2420
03:03:44,490 --> 03:03:44,850
park.

2421
03:03:45,550 --> 03:03:50,790
No mall or landscaping can truly protect a neighborhood from that level of industrial activity.

2422
03:03:50,790 --> 03:03:56,230
It violates the spirit of Round Rock of 2030 vision, which was created to prevent exactly

2423
03:03:56,230 --> 03:03:59,250
this type of incompatible development next to families.

2424
03:04:00,090 --> 03:04:04,770
And I know this land is zoned industrial, but that does not automatically make a data

2425
03:04:04,770 --> 03:04:07,510
center appropriate or responsible use for it.

2426
03:04:08,030 --> 03:04:12,230
I would literally accept a gun range, and I live right there, like I'm okay with that.

2427
03:04:14,030 --> 03:04:21,310
So not all industrial users carry the same impact, a data center brings around the clock

2428
03:04:21,310 --> 03:04:28,670
noise, vibration, massive noise pollution, just heat, exhaust, and all the stuff that

2429
03:04:28,670 --> 03:04:30,430
the other neighbors mentioned.

2430
03:04:30,850 --> 03:04:37,630
And the need for a substation for more intensive than the light industrial uses that the zoning

2431
03:04:37,630 --> 03:04:39,390
was originally meant to support.

2432
03:04:39,390 --> 03:04:48,110
and our steel zoning was never intended as a blank check to place a high-intensity 24-7 facility directly beside established neighborhood.

2433
03:04:49,110 --> 03:04:52,650
So, I also want to address the closed-loop cooling claim.

2434
03:04:52,990 --> 03:04:55,310
Close-loop does not mean low-water usage.

2435
03:04:55,790 --> 03:04:59,970
These systems still require constant replacement water due to evaporating.

2436
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:29,400
Equation, drift, and chemical blowdown, especially in Texas heat. Collinant closed loop makes it sound harmless, but it's essentially a marketing term that minimizes really the daily water conception, while we, the residents, continue facing water restrictions. And for all those sacrifices are quiet, and our safety, and our property values, our water, our quiet of life, quality of life, we receive almost no permanent job, no community benefit, and long term strain on our infrastructure.

2437
03:05:29,400 --> 03:05:34,340
Round Rock has already multiple data centers, we're not rejecting growth, we're simply

2438
03:05:34,340 --> 03:05:39,680
being asked to sacrifice neighborhood quality of life for project that does not belong

2439
03:05:39,680 --> 03:05:40,040
here.

2440
03:05:40,760 --> 03:05:42,760
We're protecting the family's whole life here.

2441
03:05:43,460 --> 03:05:46,500
I have just one last thing I want to say and ask a question.

2442
03:05:47,260 --> 03:05:52,500
In Texas even though with a deregulated market, everyone still depends on the same on core grid

2443
03:05:52,500 --> 03:05:58,820
and major upgrade required but required by large data centers are paid for through regulated

2444
03:05:58,820 --> 03:06:04,700
delivery fees shared by all Texans in that service area. Switching retail providers does

2445
03:06:04,700 --> 03:06:10,180
not avoid these costs because higher air-caught charges, wholesale prices and on-course infrastructure

2446
03:06:10,180 --> 03:06:16,280
fees get passed through to customers to all the customers. In short, Texans cannot switch away

2447
03:06:16,280 --> 03:06:24,520
from cost impacts of heavy power usage. So my question to Skybox, can you state clearly that Skybox

2448
03:06:24,520 --> 03:06:30,380
will pay for all current and future OMCOR transmissions, distributions and substation upgrades

2449
03:06:30,380 --> 03:06:34,980
required to support your facility, including any system wide improvements that OMCOR

2450
03:06:34,980 --> 03:06:39,320
wouldn't normally recover through regulated delivery fees charged to us residents.

2451
03:06:46,610 --> 03:06:50,090
Any questions? Thank you.

2452
03:06:52,810 --> 03:06:54,770
Shadeer Kumar and

2453
03:07:01,550 --> 03:07:05,670
Council members, so my name is Suthir and I am a resident in Homestead.

2454
03:07:07,990 --> 03:07:13,950
I know most of the people spoke about the pollution, the sound pollution, air pollution.

2455
03:07:14,810 --> 03:07:21,350
So basically, if we look at the noise pollution, we get around somewhere between 50 to 65

2456
03:07:21,350 --> 03:07:24,530
decibels, which is too much for a human to handle it.

2457
03:07:24,930 --> 03:07:30,990
And pollution about like 14.4 kilograms, if a generator runs for 24 hours.

2458
03:07:31,530 --> 03:07:34,370
So which is again more of a carbon monoxide getting into the atmosphere.

2459
03:07:34,370 --> 03:07:40,350
So, when we speak all of this, we totally forgot about the safety hazards.

2460
03:07:41,470 --> 03:07:47,550
When we have a generator scattering a data center, I work in, I used to work in a data center,

2461
03:07:47,590 --> 03:07:49,770
I have 10 patients of experience in data center.

2462
03:07:49,930 --> 03:07:55,970
So, we stock a lot of diesel, so somewhere between 7,000 to 10,000 gallons of diesel.

2463
03:07:56,550 --> 03:08:02,530
So, in any point, if there is a fire accident, so we do have a lot of residential around the

2464
03:08:02,530 --> 03:08:07,150
area, so which can be a disaster where we cannot avoid those things.

2465
03:08:08,270 --> 03:08:12,270
And coming to another safety concern, we spoke about water.

2466
03:08:12,970 --> 03:08:15,550
So the water doesn't do the cooling by itself.

2467
03:08:15,870 --> 03:08:19,430
It needs to have a chemical component to add it to it so that it cools the water.

2468
03:08:20,050 --> 03:08:24,110
And there are chances about chemical accidents as well.

2469
03:08:24,730 --> 03:08:31,030
So those things, and the other part is about the batteries for the back of what they use

2470
03:08:31,030 --> 03:08:31,950
is lithium ion batteries.

2471
03:08:32,230 --> 03:08:34,270
Those are also more prone for chemical accidents.

2472
03:08:34,790 --> 03:08:38,070
So, these are most of the safety hazards

2473
03:08:38,070 --> 03:08:40,090
I would like to bring in to the council here.

2474
03:08:40,690 --> 03:08:40,930
All right.

2475
03:08:41,430 --> 03:08:41,770
Thank you.

2476
03:08:41,910 --> 03:08:42,650
Anybody have questions?

2477
03:08:49,760 --> 03:08:50,540
Tonya Frigga-Roa.

2478
03:09:02,080 --> 03:09:02,660
Hello, council.

2479
03:09:02,820 --> 03:09:04,740
Thank you so much for taking our comments.

2480
03:09:05,840 --> 03:09:08,980
A lot of the stuff that I came here to say was already set.

2481
03:09:09,600 --> 03:09:11,140
So, I won't repeat it, of course.

2482
03:09:11,980 --> 03:09:14,600
What I'm very concerned about, what's very worrisome to me,

2483
03:09:14,860 --> 03:09:17,300
is that there's a lot.

2484
03:09:17,300 --> 03:09:21,640
And there's no ways for us to see how many data centers are being built constantly.

2485
03:09:22,340 --> 03:09:26,300
And this whole data center boom is so fast happening so quickly.

2486
03:09:27,120 --> 03:09:30,060
We're not, I'm barely learning about all this myself.

2487
03:09:32,340 --> 03:09:35,620
It feels like a modern day, gold rush and for tech companies.

2488
03:09:35,820 --> 03:09:38,640
And for a lot of people are going to get very rich, okay?

2489
03:09:39,000 --> 03:09:41,660
But not the working class, local communities and

2490
03:09:41,660 --> 03:09:44,940
the neighborhoods around in them will suffer the consequences for generations to come.

2491
03:09:45,700 --> 03:09:50,160
You guys might not even see those consequences yourself, but I will, and so are my children.

2492
03:09:53,280 --> 03:09:58,440
And you guys have worked so hard to keep our water levels well.

2493
03:09:58,860 --> 03:09:59,400
You guys are very...

2494
03:10:00,000 --> 03:10:22,000
I'm proud of it. I know you are. And it just sucks that you see that you guys are not even considering that in your plan at all. You guys have worked really hard. And I know many of you are up for re-election in 2026, including the mayor. And I think we will remember this. We will all remember what you decide tonight. Thank you.

2495
03:10:31,840 --> 03:10:34,880
L-I-N-G-U-T-A-T-L-A.

2496
03:10:34,880 --> 03:10:50,780
Looking, what, Vanille, starts with a V, first name, L-I-N-G-U-T-L-A, Gatla, Address is 2720 Cresment Cove, how about that?

2497
03:10:52,040 --> 03:10:52,660
No?

2498
03:10:56,200 --> 03:10:56,960
Richard Parsons.

2499
03:11:11,630 --> 03:11:12,070
Thank you.

2500
03:11:12,770 --> 03:11:15,470
Good evening, Mr. Mayor. My name is Richard Parsons.

2501
03:11:15,470 --> 03:11:23,470
I live at 2301 Winthropy and I am president of the Kensington Neighborhood Association.

2502
03:11:24,250 --> 03:11:32,850
The Kensington Neighborhood shares a fence with switch corporation which has built the

2503
03:11:32,850 --> 03:11:35,570
first data center here in Round Rock.

2504
03:11:37,270 --> 03:11:44,070
I am late to the meeting so I have missed all the presentations and most of the speeches but

2505
03:11:44,070 --> 03:11:53,850
I just want to give you a different perspective and speak to the neighborhood that is in discussion tonight.

2506
03:11:55,390 --> 03:12:04,730
Kensington neighborhood as president, I was able to sit with five vice presidents from the switch corporation.

2507
03:12:04,730 --> 03:12:30,870
They flew in, we hosted them at Grace Presbyterian Church and on Garry School Road and we had a vigorous Q&A and we didn't just have a Q&A, we also had action items and we established a relationship with that company, with that corporation and to this very day, we still have a relationship with them.

2508
03:12:31,850 --> 03:12:35,810
If we had a complaint, they answered it.

2509
03:12:35,810 --> 03:12:42,770
For instance, when we had a summer of three-digit temperatures, all summer long over a hundred,

2510
03:12:43,390 --> 03:12:49,970
they would email me and tell me that they were going to be there at 4 a.m.

2511
03:12:50,510 --> 03:12:55,870
And I would notify my neighborhood to expect that and so we were not surprised.

2512
03:12:55,870 --> 03:13:00,750
We were ready and able to facilitate anything that would happen.

2513
03:13:01,870 --> 03:13:07,330
And that's the kind of relationship I would encourage the neighborhood to establish,

2514
03:13:08,150 --> 03:13:13,530
because whatever happens here tonight, because I'm neutral on this because I missed everything.

2515
03:13:14,290 --> 03:13:22,770
I had another engagement, but I would encourage you as a neighborhood to establish a relationship with this corporation.

2516
03:13:22,770 --> 03:13:26,750
And since you're going to share a property line with them,

2517
03:13:27,210 --> 03:13:29,950
we are stones throw away literally from Switch.

2518
03:13:30,670 --> 03:13:33,210
And they are very, very good to my neighborhood.

2519
03:13:33,790 --> 03:13:36,250
They have even sponsored our neighborhood night out.

2520
03:13:37,750 --> 03:13:42,830
And different things that they want to be a part of our community.

2521
03:13:42,830 --> 03:13:47,350
And that's kind of a relationship that why I have a relationship with them

2522
03:13:47,350 --> 03:13:52,110
because I want to incorporate other things that they will do here.

2523
03:13:52,110 --> 03:13:53,710
They want to be good neighbors.

2524
03:13:54,390 --> 03:13:57,530
I'm only saying this because regardless of what happens here,

2525
03:13:57,990 --> 03:14:02,270
there's another perspective to another layer of involvement.

2526
03:14:02,430 --> 03:14:04,550
And that is community whether they come here or not.

2527
03:14:04,730 --> 03:14:11,850
If they come here, you need to not have an adversarial necessarily a relationship with them,

2528
03:14:12,230 --> 03:14:16,090
but a relationship built on communication and cooperation.

2529
03:14:16,590 --> 03:14:18,010
That's all I have to say, thank you.

2530
03:14:18,010 --> 03:14:18,970
That

2531
03:14:24,890 --> 03:14:28,550
is all the cards I have.

2532
03:14:29,090 --> 03:14:33,210
Anybody that has not spoken, that wanted to speak,

2533
03:14:33,910 --> 03:14:35,370
that did not fill out a card.

2534
03:14:36,130 --> 03:14:36,610
Come on up.

2535
03:14:41,770 --> 03:14:43,310
Oh, but you...

2536
03:14:44,560 --> 03:14:47,440
I believe it's Mr. Ann, right?

2537
03:14:48,520 --> 03:14:50,780
You have spoken, so...

2538
03:14:50,780 --> 03:14:50,980
Yeah,

2539
03:14:53,800 --> 03:14:56,800
there's a question about what would be a good alternative

2540
03:14:56,800 --> 03:14:59,280
for that space that you asked a couple people.

2541
03:15:01,860 --> 03:15:28,540
My friend Pamela, she did a lot of the organizing and she wasn't able to be here today. That's her husband back there, Gary, who spoke earlier. One of the things that she wanted to bring up was that she's a long time resident. She said in the old round rock plan that could have that was meant to be a commercial zone. So her recommendation was to rezone it back to commercial just to answer that question that you had earlier. So do some sort of shopping center there.

2542
03:15:29,240 --> 03:15:33,060
seems like some ever you know we all like to go shopping so the people in that

2543
03:15:33,060 --> 03:15:39,160
community would probably enjoy that at least a little bit better and if you

2544
03:15:39,160 --> 03:15:47,580
can rezone it to a PUD you can rezone it to anything right so that's just to

2545
03:15:47,580 --> 03:15:49,720
answer that question. Thank you. Thank you.

2546
03:15:54,230 --> 03:15:55,690
After you after you get through

2547
03:15:55,690 --> 03:15:59,870
speak no ma'am after you get through speaking we just make sure you fill out a

2548
03:15:59,870 --> 03:16:06,250
Yellow card in the back just so we have it for record. Sure, I hope I'm quick here.

2549
03:16:06,950 --> 03:16:13,690
My father back during the rolling blackouts. He was on oxygen. He had dementia.

2550
03:16:16,370 --> 03:16:25,850
And he he went downhill and ended up in long-term care facility rehab for two weeks long-term

2551
03:16:25,850 --> 03:16:28,610
care facility and he died three months later from a fall.

2552
03:16:30,110 --> 03:16:38,530
So, you know, who knows, you know, if there's another one, I'm not sure, you know, we hear all these words, I'm not sure exactly how they're going to take care of all.

2553
03:16:39,030 --> 03:16:42,690
I didn't realize there were so many data centers that have already come to this area.

2554
03:16:46,690 --> 03:16:48,630
Like so many people have said were,

2555
03:16:50,860 --> 03:16:57,280
you know, how come I'm just now hearing about all the data centers and how they're already in this area?

2556
03:16:58,620 --> 03:17:01,840
Look, since 2021 probably.

2557
03:17:02,740 --> 03:17:09,320
So here comes another rolling blackout possibly and who takes priority?

2558
03:17:11,380 --> 03:17:12,520
Who takes priority?

2559
03:17:12,760 --> 03:17:16,740
I don't even know what the data centers, I don't know what the AI is all about.

2560
03:17:17,020 --> 03:17:25,100
I just had to reconfigure my Gmail yesterday because I got the message that AI is coming into

2561
03:17:25,100 --> 03:17:30,960
your Gmail now to access, they've run out, what is it really all about?

2562
03:17:36,010 --> 03:17:40,810
You know, if I have to pay a few hundred dollars extra for property taxes, you know,

2563
03:17:40,930 --> 03:17:42,830
I'm living on Social Security, I'll make it happen.

2564
03:17:46,100 --> 03:17:52,460
But find out the details about this encore and how and what's what's going to happen

2565
03:17:52,460 --> 03:17:54,020
if there's another rolling blackout.

2566
03:17:55,900 --> 03:17:57,660
I was pretty upset about my father,

2567
03:18:01,220 --> 03:18:01,760
thank you.

2568
03:18:01,960 --> 03:18:02,480
Thank you.

2569
03:18:02,480 --> 03:18:03,100
All

2570
03:18:28,440 --> 03:18:28,940
right, Bradley.

2571
03:18:29,440 --> 03:18:31,980
All right, is that all the speakers?

2572
03:18:34,170 --> 03:18:35,570
All right, I'm closing the public in

2573
03:18:38,480 --> 03:18:43,060
any questions for Bradley.

2574
03:18:43,440 --> 03:18:43,680
Brad.

2575
03:18:43,960 --> 03:18:45,020
I don't want to keep going, Brad.

2576
03:18:45,360 --> 03:18:45,840
Brad.

2577
03:18:46,140 --> 03:18:46,420
Tired.

2578
03:18:46,620 --> 03:18:46,920
Sorry.

2579
03:18:48,280 --> 03:18:49,160
Any questions?

2580
03:18:52,190 --> 03:18:52,630
All right.

2581
03:18:52,910 --> 03:18:55,810
Well, then I will entertain a motion to adopt the ordinance.

2582
03:18:57,410 --> 03:18:58,050
So moved.

2583
03:19:00,100 --> 03:19:00,540
Second.

2584
03:19:01,600 --> 03:19:03,580
All right, I'm motioned by Councilmember Flores,

2585
03:19:03,580 --> 03:19:06,440
We're saying by Councilmember Ritega, any other discussion?

2586
03:19:07,400 --> 03:19:08,520
And please vote the council.

2587
03:19:10,560 --> 03:19:11,460
Councilmember Lee?

2588
03:19:13,040 --> 03:19:13,700
Yes.

2589
03:19:14,240 --> 03:19:15,240
Councilmember Flores?

2590
03:19:15,720 --> 03:19:15,920
Yes.

2591
03:19:16,540 --> 03:19:17,460
Councilmember Clemen?

2592
03:19:18,020 --> 03:19:18,680
Yes.

2593
03:19:19,180 --> 03:19:20,200
Councilmember Ritega?

2594
03:19:20,460 --> 03:19:20,640
Yes.

2595
03:19:21,360 --> 03:19:22,360
Mayor Pro Tem Stevens?

2596
03:19:23,540 --> 03:19:24,200
Yes.

2597
03:19:24,820 --> 03:19:25,440
Mayor Morgan?

2598
03:19:26,180 --> 03:19:26,480
Yes.

2599
03:19:26,880 --> 03:19:27,960
I'll entertain a motion.

2600
03:19:28,080 --> 03:19:28,860
Dispense with a second.

2601
03:19:28,980 --> 03:19:29,240
Read it.

2602
03:19:34,760 --> 03:19:35,200
No motion.

2603
03:19:38,450 --> 03:19:38,610
Okay.

2604
03:19:38,610 --> 03:19:46,530
So then we'll have a second reading at a future meeting.

2605
03:19:47,330 --> 03:19:47,610
All right.

2606
03:19:48,250 --> 03:19:48,790
I-3.

2607
03:19:49,030 --> 03:19:52,130
Consider public testimony regarding an ordinance amended zoning and development.

2608
03:19:52,130 --> 03:19:57,430
out in the co-chapter 10 section 10-21C4D code of ordinances 28-10,

2609
03:19:57,490 --> 03:19:59,910
regarding zoning protest procedures, 1st,

2610
03:20:01,200 --> 03:20:26,800
So, let me, we, people, if they want to leave, you can. So, the first reading got approved, but there will be a second reading at an upcoming meeting. So, our next meeting, it'll either be at our next meeting of the first one in January. We'll make sure that everybody that was on the emails, get the dates of what that date will look like. So, that's what, that's what happened.

2611
03:20:26,800 --> 03:20:33,400
So, it doesn't mean it's still on the table is what an essence it means, all right?

2612
03:20:34,580 --> 03:20:35,800
All right, go ahead, brother, sorry.

2613
03:20:36,800 --> 03:20:41,300
This is an amendment to our zoning and development code to reflect a recent change or

2614
03:20:41,300 --> 03:20:45,420
a house bill that was adopted by the state legislature this past legislative session that took

2615
03:20:45,420 --> 03:20:50,940
effect on September 1st, altering the requirements and thresholds for protest petitions related to certain

2616
03:20:50,940 --> 03:20:56,540
zoning changes. So, we have to make a change to our code because state legislature made a change

2617
03:20:56,540 --> 03:21:02,140
to state law. So that's the gist of this amendment. But the, so this will amend Section 10-21

2618
03:21:02,140 --> 03:21:07,100
of our code to replace some outdated language now under current code and a current language

2619
03:21:07,100 --> 03:21:13,300
that is now being replaced when a rezoning application is brought forward by an applicant

2620
03:21:13,300 --> 03:21:19,840
and the number of people around can organize to protest that rezoning application. If they get more

2621
03:21:19,840 --> 03:21:27,360
than 20% of the land area either affected by the rezoning or within 200 feet of that rezoning.

2622
03:21:27,520 --> 03:21:31,600
If they get more than 20% of that land area, the owners to protest against it, then it

2623
03:21:31,600 --> 03:21:35,720
requires a three-fourth supermajority vote by city council in order to pass that.

2624
03:21:37,400 --> 03:21:42,040
However, we have to replace some of this language because it is now outdated, and this was

2625
03:21:42,040 --> 03:21:46,400
a response to some of the housing affordability costs that the state legislature, this is

2626
03:21:46,400 --> 03:21:47,340
why they're addressing that.

2627
03:21:47,340 --> 03:22:05,480
So, the language that they have passed and that we have to adopt into our code is that for any zoning change that increases residential development or is considered comprehensive, a valid protest requires the signatures of owners representing at least 60% of the land area of either the affected track or the area within 200 feet.

2628
03:22:05,620 --> 03:22:16,900
So, increasing that threshold from 20% to 60% but still, even if a valid protest petition is filed, the governing body can approve it by a simple majority vote.

2629
03:22:16,900 --> 03:22:25,120
So the legislature has, on one hand, made it harder to protest and then has removed the teeth from the validity of that protest.

2630
03:22:25,660 --> 03:22:31,340
So the existing 20% protest threshold and three fourth supermajority remains in place for all other zoning requirements.

2631
03:22:31,700 --> 03:22:37,080
This is for only a rezoning that increases residential development or is considered comprehensive.

2632
03:22:37,840 --> 03:22:42,760
This once the Planning and Zoning Commission last month and there were no public speakers staff recommends approval.

2633
03:22:42,760 --> 03:22:47,600
questions. All right. This is a public hearing opening. Public hearing for

2634
03:22:47,600 --> 03:22:51,660
eye three. Anybody wish to speak on eye three. Seeing none. Public hearing is

2635
03:22:51,660 --> 03:22:56,380
closed. I'm going to take a motion to adopt the ordinance. So move. Second.

2636
03:22:56,660 --> 03:23:00,000
Motion made by Council Mayor Tegas. Second by the Mayor Pro Tem and the other

2637
03:23:00,000 --> 03:23:06,020
discussion. And please follow the council. Council member floors. Yes. Council

2638
03:23:06,020 --> 03:23:09,020
Councilmember Fleming. Yes. Councilmember Atega. Yes.

2639
03:23:09,460 --> 03:23:14,120
Mayor Pro Tem Stevens. Yes. Councilmember Lee. Yes.

2640
03:23:14,600 --> 03:23:17,480
Mayor Morgan. Yes. I entertain motion to spend with the second

2641
03:23:17,480 --> 03:23:21,040
reading. So moved. Motion made by Councilmember Atega.

2642
03:23:21,120 --> 03:23:23,580
Say I'm by Councilmember Flores and the other discussion.

2643
03:23:24,020 --> 03:23:25,360
And please vote with Council.

2644
03:23:28,060 --> 03:23:30,340
Councilmember Fleming. Yes.

2645
03:23:30,700 --> 03:23:33,560
Councilmember Atega. Yes. Mayor Pro Tem Stevens. Yes.

2646
03:23:34,000 --> 03:23:36,800
Councilmember Lee. Yes. Councilmember Flores. Yes.

2647
03:23:36,800 --> 03:23:36,940
Yes.

2648
03:23:37,140 --> 03:23:37,640
Mayor Morgan.

2649
03:23:38,120 --> 03:23:38,280
Yes.

2650
03:23:38,960 --> 03:23:39,380
I-4.

2651
03:23:39,540 --> 03:23:45,300
Consider a public testimony regarding an ordinance of Mending Zone and Development Code, Chapter 4, Section 4-4-8.

2652
03:23:45,440 --> 03:23:46,500
Code of Ordnance is 2018.

2653
03:23:46,640 --> 03:23:47,120
Addition.

2654
03:23:47,760 --> 03:23:49,900
Regarding driveway space and first reading.

2655
03:23:50,540 --> 03:23:52,560
This is another amendment like the last one.

2656
03:23:52,560 --> 03:23:56,300
We're making a change to our zoning and development code in response to a change that was made elsewhere.

2657
03:23:56,840 --> 03:24:05,680
In this case, the elsewhere is the public works department, the transportation division, amending the city's transportation design and construction standards or the DAX.

2658
03:24:05,680 --> 03:24:09,820
regarding driveway spacing, specifically as driveway spacing for common lot-town home

2659
03:24:09,820 --> 03:24:14,400
developments, multi-family developments, and any non-residential development. Currently

2660
03:24:14,400 --> 03:24:17,800
in our zoning and development code, it states there has to be at least 200 feet between

2661
03:24:17,800 --> 03:24:23,100
driveways or 200 feet of separation from an intersection to the nearest driveway. The

2662
03:24:23,100 --> 03:24:28,660
DAX was amended recently to increase that spacing to 250 feet, so we're just striking out

2663
03:24:28,660 --> 03:24:34,080
200 and adding 250 feet to the zoning and development code. Again, like the last one, this went

2664
03:24:34,080 --> 03:24:38,080
the Planning and Zoning Commission last month for their recommendation and we had no public speakers.

2665
03:24:38,700 --> 03:24:39,820
All right. Any questions?

2666
03:24:41,420 --> 03:24:44,960
All right. This is a public hearing. I'll open up public hearing for I-4.

2667
03:24:45,960 --> 03:24:49,760
Anybody wishing to speak? Seeing public hearing's closed,

2668
03:24:50,020 --> 03:24:51,740
I entertain a motion to adopt the ordinance.

2669
03:24:52,820 --> 03:24:56,500
So move. Second. Motion made by Councilor Tegas,

2670
03:24:56,500 --> 03:24:58,720
same about the Mayor of Pro-Tam and the other discussion.

2671
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:10,120
council. Governor, Council member, Ottiga, Mayor Four to Game Steevens, Council member Lee, Council member Flores, council member Fleming, Mayor Morgan,

2672
03:25:10,460 --> 03:25:19,420
Anti-emotion, dispensed with the second widen. Second motion. May by council, employers and by Council member Tegba and the others' discussion. Peace pt.

2673
03:25:19,560 --> 03:25:29,360
council. Mayor Britain stevens, Council member Lee, Council member Flores, Council member Fleming, Council member Ottaga...

2674
03:25:29,360 --> 03:25:30,300
Yes, ma'am Morgan.

2675
03:25:31,020 --> 03:25:32,120
Yes, all right.

2676
03:25:32,320 --> 03:25:34,860
Jay council comments regarding items of community interest.

2677
03:25:34,980 --> 03:25:35,640
Councilmember Lee.

2678
03:25:36,900 --> 03:25:38,060
Good night, round out.

2679
03:25:38,640 --> 03:25:39,460
Councilmember floors.

2680
03:25:40,020 --> 03:25:42,040
I wanted to congratulate our city manager,

2681
03:25:42,400 --> 03:25:46,040
Mr. Bennett, for one year of service.

2682
03:25:46,040 --> 03:25:46,980
You've done a great job.

2683
03:25:47,060 --> 03:25:50,940
You've filled in admirable and appreciate your leadership.

2684
03:25:51,760 --> 03:25:52,260
Good night, round out.

2685
03:25:53,300 --> 03:25:53,980
Councilmember Fleming.

2686
03:25:54,520 --> 03:25:56,580
I'd like to wish our mayor happy birthday.

2687
03:25:56,580 --> 03:26:06,360
coming up. Good night, Ron Rock. Thank you. Councilmember Tega. Yes, also I'd like to wish the mayor a happy birthday coming up. Are you still young?

2688
03:26:07,820 --> 03:26:17,640
But birthday is a different day. Good night, Ron Rock. Thank you. Mayor Pro Tem. Yeah, happy birthday mayor. Also happy birthday to my husband who I've yet to see today. So

2689
03:26:18,880 --> 03:26:21,700
Anyways, good night, Ron Rock. It's still not ceiling.

2690
03:26:22,400 --> 03:26:29,320
All right, I don't have anything. A lot of the lake is tomorrow night and Saturday nights

2691
03:26:29,320 --> 03:26:37,640
encourage all the community to come out to the Lake Pavilion and help us kick it off.

2692
03:26:37,820 --> 03:26:43,080
And so everybody be safe, have a happy holiday, and with that, good night. We're standing

2693
03:26:43,080 --> 03:26:43,580
adjourn.