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>> We will call to order the

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Budget and Audit Committee

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meeting for MAY 26th, 2026. And

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welcome to those of you who

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have joined us. Why don't we

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call the roll to establish a

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>> Thank you. Council member

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Talamantes. Council member

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Maple. I am here, Council

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member Guerra and chair

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Dickinson here. Quorum.

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>> Thank you. And Council

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member Maple, would you lead us

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in the acknowledgment and the

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pledge?

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>> Please rise if you are able.

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Rise for the opening

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acknowledgments in honor of

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Sacramento's indigenous people

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and tribal lands to the

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original people of this land,

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the Nisenan people, the

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southern Maidu Valley and

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Plains Miwok, Patwin Wintun

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peoples and the people of the

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Wilton Rancheria. Sacramento's

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only federally recognized tribe.

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MAY we acknowledge and honor

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the native people who came

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before us and still walk beside

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us today on these ancestral

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lands, by choosing to gather

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today in the act of practice of

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acknowledgment and appreciation

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for Sacramento's indigenous

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peoples, histories,

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contributions and lives. Remain

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standing. Salute and pledge. I

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pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which

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it stands one nation under GOD,

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indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> All right, all right. Thank

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you all for joining us this

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this morning. If you wish to

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speak on any item on our agenda,

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you're welcome to to do that,

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you need to, to fill out a

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speaker form and deliver that

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to our clerk here at the front

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of the chambers. And then we'll

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make sure to call on you on the

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item in which you are

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interested. Please keep in mind

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that public comment is limited

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to two minutes, and you can see

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the clock ticking now as you

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stand at the podium, so be sure

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to keep an eye on that so you

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time your remarks so you get

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everything said that you that

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that, I think we can move to

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our consent calendar. So do we

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have any items that members

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>> I'll move consent.

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second on the consent calendar.

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public who wish to address. I

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nothing further, then all in

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favor, signify by saying aye.

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We'll go on to item six, which

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is the audit of emergency

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medical services. And because

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it's an audit, here's our

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>> Good morning, Chair

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your city auditor. With me

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today is Joe Fleming, who is

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primarily responsible for

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completing this audit. And the

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recommendation that's before

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you is to accept the audit of

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the Sacramento Fire

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services and forward it to the

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full City Council for approval.

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So first, I'd like to provide

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some background information

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regarding ems operations and

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trends in ems in demand for ems

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services. The ems division

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within the Sacramento Fire

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Department provides basic life

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support, advanced life support

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services for the city. 911

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calls first go to the

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they're transferred to the. For

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fire and medical calls to the

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Communications Center, who then

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provides the alert to the

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stations for units to respond.

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incidents with ambulances,

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trucks or engines. More

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recently, for non-emergency or

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low acuity calls, there are

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other teams that MAY respond,

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abuse or mental health crises.

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incidents for both fire and

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medical have risen about 15%,

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which is more than double the

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6% growth that fire operations

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and ems staffing have seen.

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number of fire stations is also

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2018. And then to help address

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this, ems has more recently

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also contracted with ambulance

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services to provide basic life

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support services, and many ems

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operational policies are set by

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the county ems agency, though

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Sacramento Fire Department does

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maintain its own policy manual,

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and the state also provides

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guidance and coordination. In

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addition, there are outside

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groups such as the National

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Fire Protection Association,

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nfpa that suggest performance

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standards that are widely

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accepted. So our audit

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objective was to evaluate the

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quality of the Fire

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department's emergency Medical

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service services delivery and

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identify opportunities for

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improvement. To do this, we

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looked at ems processes from

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all stages of the operations.

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dispatch enters the 911 calls

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to when ems personnel mobilize

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and when patients are offloaded

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for care at the hospitals, if

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applicable. This provides the

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perspective of both the

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provider and the patient. And

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to do so, we review data on

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dispatch center. Turnout time

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from patient surveys provided

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provider, and accreditation and

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various policies maintained by

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the Department, operational

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standards established by county

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guidelines and regulations,

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state codes, and best practices

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that are suggested by third

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nfpa. So, for our first finding,

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we address the impact of

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non-emergency calls or as I

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mentioned, low acuity on sfd

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operations. So we reviewed data

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on the disposition of all the

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different types of 911 calls

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that sfd responded to in

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calendar year 2020 for. So as I

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mentioned, low acuity calls are

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things like minor pain or flu

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like symptoms or other non-life

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threatening medical concerns.

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98,000 incidents that we

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medical and about 18,000 of

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those were low acuity. So in

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other words, for the most

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common type of incident,

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personnel were responding to

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non-emergency or non-life

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threatening about 30% of the

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personnel MAY be tied up with

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non-emergency calls when other

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actual emergencies are

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occurring. And this can create

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additional workload burden on

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responding to these incidents

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costs about $4.6 million across

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repairs and staffing, and a

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combined unit spent 1.2 million

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meaning that as a share of the

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city population, there were

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about four ambulance responses

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for each personal person

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experiencing homelessness,

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compared to about 0.15

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mentioned, ems now utilizes a

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multiple types of units that

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are designed to respond to low

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acuity incidents, with an

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alternative approach designed

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specifically for different

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needs. So, for example, they

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have teams of paramedics that

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related incidents with harm

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reduction kits and provide

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follow up visits. So our

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recommendation for this finding

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suggests that there is further

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collaboration that could happen

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with the dispatch center, which

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could allow for dispatch to

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directly dispatch alternative

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response units to calls, which

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is not currently a level of

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authority that they have. This

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would also include continued

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exploration of models like the

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nurse triage line, where

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non-emergency calls are

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potentially routed to a nurse

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over the phone, rather than

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to respond in person. In our

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conversations with the fire

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department and the dispatch

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center, they have indicated

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that they've researched this

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option and have identified some

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certain obstacles, but we

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Crisis hotline, which responds

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crises or rideshare options,

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where we can send a rideshare

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to transport individuals to

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doctor appointments or urgent

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care instead of taking them to

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the hospital with an ambulance.

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And additionally, we recommend

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that the fire department

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continues to expand its use of

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alternative response units like

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the Mobile Integrated Health

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Team, which did roll out

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earlier this month. So one of

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the challenges that they've

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indicated for these types of

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units is that the city might

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not be able to bill for some of

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these services. And so

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expanding their usage could

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benefit with also working with

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state officials and legislators

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to build out a way that we can

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get reimbursed for for those

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services. Our second finding is

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that while ems providers and

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hospitals county wide have

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reduced the time it takes to

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offload patients from

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ambulances into the care of the

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hospitals, there is still room

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for improvement to meet the

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offload standard time set by

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the county policy in 2023,

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Assembly Bill 40 was passed to

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streamline the transfer of care

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between ambulances and

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hospitals and added

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requirements like establishing

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a threshold for how much time

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the hospital has to take in

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clients. So the for example,

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you could set a 30 minute

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patient offload time for 90% of

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incidents, and it requires

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hospitals to develop protocols

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to reduce the patient offload

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times. When we looked at the

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2024 data, we calculated that

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an additional 21 minutes per

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patient on average ambulance

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waiting times above that 30

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minute offload time, which was

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about 7000 hours in total and

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$970,000 in terms of ambulance

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operating costs. More recent

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data in 2025 shows that that

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time has gone down

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significantly from the even

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2023 data, which was 73 minutes,

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and the county standard, which

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was 30 minutes at the time we

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looked at it, has slowly

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reduced to get to a 20 minute

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standard. So for fiscal year 26,

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that standard was 25 minutes.

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At the end of this calendar

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year, it's going to be closer

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to 23 minutes. And then JANUARY

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it's going to be 20 minutes. So

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our recommendation is to

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continue to work with area

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hospitals to ensure that we are

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they are in compliance with the

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patient offload times to reduce

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wait times for the ambulances.

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The fire department does

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currently meet monthly with

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representatives of the area,

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hospitals and insurance

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providers, as well as

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neighboring fire chiefs to

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discuss additional strategies.

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So we believe that continuing

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those discussions is going to

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be helpful. And they have

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mentioned that there there have

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been some changes implemented

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by the hospitals. And so

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continuing those changes will

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also benefit the city. Our

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third finding is that the fire

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department has not formally

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adopted turnout time standards

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to measure their performance

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against. So the nfpa standard

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is for units to begin traveling

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within 60s of being notified of

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the incident 90% of the time.

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Our review of the turnout time

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for 2024 was that we were

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meeting that 60s 60% of the

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time, and the performance was

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generally faster during the day

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and slower in the early morning

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hours. And at the dispatch

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level, the dispatch center is

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is also not consistently

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meeting the call answer times,

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which again set by the nfpa,

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90% of calls answered within 15

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seconds between JANUARY 2019

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and MARCH 2021. They did exceed

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that benchmark. And then

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they've kind of fluctuated over

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the last couple of years on

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meeting that. So our

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recommendation is for the fire

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department to work with the

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dispatch center to regularly

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reach the call, answering

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benchmarking times. The

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dispatch center did state that

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they are planning to add

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personnel, which could help

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expedite call answering and

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processing times. And then we

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also recommend that the fire

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department formally adopt the

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nfpa standards specifically,

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especially for turnout times of

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60s 90% of the time. And then

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our final finding is that the

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fire department's Continuous

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Quality Improvement Committee

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roles and responsibilities

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could be strengthened. The key

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Key Committee is currently

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exceeding the standards set by

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county policy to review patient

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care reports to look for things

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like gaps in service delivery

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or identify conduct violations.

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This work is done by staff on a

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volunteer basis, as funding

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constraints are always an issue,

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and it limits their ability to

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do fuller reviews of other data,

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such as patient feedback

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surveys and those that

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information is not currently

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utilized to improve or change

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the policies and practices of

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the operations. Additionally,

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in our review of the licensing

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and accreditation data, we

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found that there were some

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credentials that were listed as

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expired and the fire

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00:15:26,377 --> 00:15:28,377
department's internal tracking

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system. Two of those 44 that we

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had identified were for

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00:15:33,952 --> 00:15:36,870
paramedic licenses. And then

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lastly, among the fire

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department's internal policies,

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many of the them were outdated.

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About 85% of the policies in

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the ems division had not been

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updated in more than 25 years.

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We recommend for this finding

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that the committee roles and

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responsibilities be clarified,

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that the Committee is

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satisfying internal policies

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and those guidelines set by the

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state ems authority. We

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recommend that patient data

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survey data be incorporated

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into the quality improvement

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process and be provided to the

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Office of Public Safety,

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Accountability and Fire

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Department's internal

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investigators were warranted,

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and we recommend that processes

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by which employee

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certifications are reviewed to

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ensure that their current and

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to reinforce processes that

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prevent certifications from

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lapsing and we also recommend

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that the fire department

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perform a gap analysis to

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identify any missing policies

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that need to be added to their

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manual of operations. In

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addition to working on updating

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some of their policies that

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they currently have. This

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concludes my presentation. I'd

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like to thank the Fire

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department for their

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collaboration and assistance

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throughout this audit. The

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response from the department is

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included at the end of this

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audit report. And as you can

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see, they've already begun

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working on and addressing many

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of the issues we identified.

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And before we conclude, I

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believe the fire department did

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want to say a couple of words.

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>> So thank you, chief. Good

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morning.

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>> Good morning everyone. I'd

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like to start out by just

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thanking Forrest and her

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auditor team for what they help

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us with. As we went through

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this audit. The Sacramento Fire

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Department has significantly

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strengthened its ems division

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by taking part in the audit.

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Many of the community medical

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services that we didn't have

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before we have today because we

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work through this audit. It

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showed us places where we could

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either enhance or be innovative

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in the region. And you heard us

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talk about The Epoch Times, the

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ambulance patient offload times

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at the hospitals. That's

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something we have to

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00:18:04,835 --> 00:18:06,604
collaborate with the hospitals

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00:18:06,604 --> 00:18:07,772
with. And although there MAY be

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penalties for us, there's no

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penalty for the hospital for a

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slow patient offload time. So

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we have to foster that

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relationship with every

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hospital in the region to get

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the times that we do have. And

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as of APRIL, we're down to 28

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minutes, which I would have

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told you would have been

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unheard of several years ago

534
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when we were seeing sometimes

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for six hours, sitting for

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patient offload times. Many of

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the advancements are through

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00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:40,171
our communication center. We

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have the backbone here in

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Sacramento County, a fire

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having a dedicated fire

542
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:47,311
dispatch center is unique in

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Sacramento County that we use

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the whole system. And what I

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mean, the whole system, it's.

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We share a borderless boundary.

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So companies from the city and

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the county move across lines as

549
00:19:01,692 --> 00:19:03,894
well as medic units. That also

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00:19:03,894 --> 00:19:05,663
gave us the ability to

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00:19:05,663 --> 00:19:08,630
integrate with the 988 suicide

552
00:19:08,566 --> 00:19:09,734
crisis hotline, develop nurse

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navigation pathways with those

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other units that you hear us

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00:19:12,603 --> 00:19:15,603
talk about. So the street

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overdose Response Team, the mcu,

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which is a crisis unit, and now

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mih, which the two previous

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ones sort and mcu, they are

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00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:28,150
dispatched through text from

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dispatch, but the mi units are

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00:19:29,787 --> 00:19:31,589
dispatched by radio, so that's

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something new. Since the audit

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started. I talked about we're

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actually a leader in the region

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in the ambulance patient

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00:19:45,603 --> 00:19:48,472
offload times. We meet monthly

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with all the clinics, the rehab

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facilities, insurance providers,

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00:19:51,775 --> 00:19:53,944
the hospitals, and sit down and

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work on ways to reduce those

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times, which makes our

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ambulances more available more

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often. Modernization and I, we

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talked about a lot, 10,000

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00:20:03,587 --> 00:20:05,987
certificates that we manage

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00:20:06,189 --> 00:20:07,224
with two people. A lot of those

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certificates, certificates that

579
00:20:08,958 --> 00:20:10,495
we hit on the 40 that were

580
00:20:10,495 --> 00:20:13,495
expired. Some of them are

581
00:20:13,831 --> 00:20:15,833
people that are, are employees

582
00:20:15,833 --> 00:20:17,668
that are going from emt to

583
00:20:17,668 --> 00:20:19,700
paramedic. Their emt license

584
00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:21,237
will lapse when they move to

585
00:20:21,237 --> 00:20:23,440
paramedic. We did not have

586
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,440
anybody work on an ambulance

587
00:20:26,644 --> 00:20:27,745
that was not certified. So some

588
00:20:27,745 --> 00:20:29,313
of the other certifications

589
00:20:29,313 --> 00:20:32,490
that were lapsed were, I think

590
00:20:32,490 --> 00:20:33,851
there was 14 or 17 reserves

591
00:20:33,851 --> 00:20:36,200
that were licensed in our

592
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,388
system, and we no longer have a

593
00:20:37,388 --> 00:20:39,223
reserve program. So those

594
00:20:39,223 --> 00:20:42,223
licenses go on. That lapsed

595
00:20:43,894 --> 00:20:47,494
category. I think when we talk

596
00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:51,469
about nfpa, nfpa is a.

597
00:20:51,469 --> 00:20:53,869
Recommendation across the us.

598
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:55,573
If it's not adopted locally,

599
00:20:55,573 --> 00:20:57,608
then it is not something that

600
00:20:57,608 --> 00:20:59,109
you would typically use. Our

601
00:20:59,109 --> 00:21:01,509
dispatch center uses Apco,

602
00:21:02,279 --> 00:21:03,447
which is a public safety

603
00:21:03,447 --> 00:21:05,847
officials that regulate the

604
00:21:05,916 --> 00:21:08,452
times that we measure and

605
00:21:08,452 --> 00:21:12,652
dispatch. So for us as a city

606
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,358
to adopt one nfpa

607
00:21:14,358 --> 00:21:16,160
recommendation, we would have

608
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,128
to go through council to do

609
00:21:18,128 --> 00:21:22,328
that. And it would be there's a

610
00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:25,100
litany of nfpa books that it's

611
00:21:25,100 --> 00:21:26,737
it's daunting when you look at

612
00:21:26,737 --> 00:21:29,737
nfpa and the requirements of

613
00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:31,400
nfpa across the nation. So we

614
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,210
tread lightly with nfpa, I

615
00:21:33,210 --> 00:21:35,746
guess is what I'm trying to say.

616
00:21:35,746 --> 00:21:37,880
So. And then the 62nd times

617
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,716
that you see for ems calls,

618
00:21:39,716 --> 00:21:41,552
that's because you're not

619
00:21:41,552 --> 00:21:42,653
having to turn out in full

620
00:21:42,653 --> 00:21:43,821
turnouts before you get on the

621
00:21:43,821 --> 00:21:46,821
equipment. So you're, you have

622
00:21:47,691 --> 00:21:48,758
less time to get ready. And

623
00:21:48,758 --> 00:21:49,960
daytime versus nighttime, I

624
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,290
think it's obvious that they're

625
00:21:52,290 --> 00:21:54,164
coming from a bedside versus

626
00:21:54,164 --> 00:21:56,367
being maybe out on the street.

627
00:21:56,367 --> 00:21:57,768
So those types of times do slow

628
00:21:57,768 --> 00:22:00,303
in the evening times or night

629
00:22:00,303 --> 00:22:02,720
time. If you have any other

630
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,908
questions, I'd be I'd just like

631
00:22:03,908 --> 00:22:06,100
to finish by thanking both

632
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:09,313
again for this team. And the

633
00:22:09,313 --> 00:22:10,648
ems team is behind me and

634
00:22:10,648 --> 00:22:12,483
answer any questions you might

635
00:22:12,483 --> 00:22:14,317
have for us.

636
00:22:14,317 --> 00:22:15,653
>> Thanks, chief. I would say

637
00:22:15,653 --> 00:22:18,188
don't don't go too far. There

638
00:22:18,188 --> 00:22:20,757
MAY be some questions for you.

639
00:22:20,757 --> 00:22:23,260
And as we get into discussion,

640
00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:26,260
we'll we'll see whether some

641
00:22:27,564 --> 00:22:29,767
questions come up or not. So I

642
00:22:29,767 --> 00:22:30,868
think first of all, do we have

643
00:22:30,868 --> 00:22:32,870
public comment on this item.

644
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:33,671
>> We have no public comment on

645
00:22:33,671 --> 00:22:34,872
this item.

646
00:22:34,872 --> 00:22:35,906
>> Okay. Let's go to Mayor Pro

647
00:22:35,906 --> 00:22:37,708
Tem Guerra.

648
00:22:37,708 --> 00:22:39,876
>> Great. Thank you very much,

649
00:22:39,876 --> 00:22:41,450
chair. First, you know, and

650
00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:42,513
maybe chief, if you can come

651
00:22:42,513 --> 00:22:43,947
back up here because.

652
00:22:43,947 --> 00:22:45,249
>> You didn't get very far, say

653
00:22:45,249 --> 00:22:47,249
exactly.

654
00:22:47,885 --> 00:22:49,586
>> And one I let me just thank

655
00:22:49,586 --> 00:22:51,321
the auditor and the team.

656
00:22:51,321 --> 00:22:52,955
Obviously the audit is intended

657
00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:55,250
for process improvement. You

658
00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:56,760
know, how do we how do we look

659
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,595
at improving our response

660
00:22:58,595 --> 00:23:00,964
issues. But I want to hone in

661
00:23:00,964 --> 00:23:02,733
on, on the finding number one,

662
00:23:02,733 --> 00:23:06,333
I think is the most significant

663
00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:08,672
that, you know, that 30% of

664
00:23:08,672 --> 00:23:09,740
those calls were of

665
00:23:09,740 --> 00:23:11,240
non-emergency were in the

666
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,778
downtown area. And I think it

667
00:23:14,778 --> 00:23:16,713
was 20% were primarily on

668
00:23:16,713 --> 00:23:19,113
homelessness calls. And there

669
00:23:19,115 --> 00:23:20,818
were non-emergency calls. And

670
00:23:20,818 --> 00:23:24,154
in essence, there wasn't a rush

671
00:23:24,154 --> 00:23:25,955
to the emergency room for an

672
00:23:25,955 --> 00:23:27,955
immediate life threatening

673
00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:32,950
situation. And, and I guess let

674
00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:35,695
me break it down into three

675
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:37,968
places, a, a place to call

676
00:23:37,968 --> 00:23:41,538
person to respond and a place

677
00:23:41,538 --> 00:23:43,390
to go here. And so first off,

678
00:23:43,390 --> 00:23:47,239
in the, you know, a place to

679
00:23:47,276 --> 00:23:50,276
call the nine eight, 8911, you

680
00:23:51,848 --> 00:23:54,485
know, for lack of a better term

681
00:23:54,485 --> 00:23:55,485
coordination here. How is that

682
00:23:55,485 --> 00:23:57,720
evolving? So if there's a

683
00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:58,922
mental health call of, of, you

684
00:23:58,922 --> 00:24:00,691
know, most of the time it's our

685
00:24:00,691 --> 00:24:02,294
first responders that are out

686
00:24:02,294 --> 00:24:03,727
there. Someone sees somebody

687
00:24:03,727 --> 00:24:05,280
that's talking to themselves

688
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,663
walking in the middle of the

689
00:24:06,663 --> 00:24:09,630
street. You know, that's

690
00:24:09,533 --> 00:24:11,933
obviously a dangerous situation.

691
00:24:12,169 --> 00:24:14,237
And, and how are and clearly

692
00:24:14,237 --> 00:24:17,237
it's a visible mental health

693
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:18,609
call. How does 988 and 911, how

694
00:24:18,609 --> 00:24:19,943
are they coordinating those

695
00:24:19,943 --> 00:24:21,943
calls together?

696
00:24:22,513 --> 00:24:26,113
>> So at the surface level nine

697
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:27,885
eight is 988 is a suicide

698
00:24:27,885 --> 00:24:29,885
prevention hotline in

699
00:24:32,255 --> 00:24:33,356
Sacramento County. 911 means if

700
00:24:33,356 --> 00:24:34,124
someone's call doesn't get

701
00:24:34,124 --> 00:24:37,124
answered right away, they MAY

702
00:24:37,227 --> 00:24:40,827
go to 91198 8th MAY divert a

703
00:24:40,831 --> 00:24:43,660
call to 911. So if they can't

704
00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:44,167
handle the call themselves with

705
00:24:44,167 --> 00:24:45,869
their navigators, they're going

706
00:24:45,869 --> 00:24:48,772
to divert it to the fire

707
00:24:48,772 --> 00:24:49,973
department. So we have those

708
00:24:49,973 --> 00:24:52,342
units out on the street now

709
00:24:52,342 --> 00:24:54,611
today, which I'm not sure of.

710
00:24:54,611 --> 00:24:57,414
The measure, the the metric

711
00:24:57,414 --> 00:24:59,583
that we use, but between sort

712
00:24:59,583 --> 00:25:00,717
mcu and mih, those are our

713
00:25:00,717 --> 00:25:03,117
alternative response units that

714
00:25:03,186 --> 00:25:05,288
can take that call. Now, where

715
00:25:05,288 --> 00:25:07,390
before we were answering all

716
00:25:07,390 --> 00:25:09,959
those calls 100% with either an

717
00:25:09,959 --> 00:25:11,495
engine and a medic unit, we

718
00:25:11,495 --> 00:25:12,763
still MAY require a medic unit

719
00:25:12,763 --> 00:25:13,931
for some calls, depending on

720
00:25:13,931 --> 00:25:15,732
the severity of the call, if

721
00:25:15,732 --> 00:25:16,533
the person's cut themselves or

722
00:25:16,533 --> 00:25:18,933
something like that, and

723
00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:21,572
there's bleeding. So it's it's

724
00:25:21,572 --> 00:25:22,739
not a simple answer, I guess,

725
00:25:22,739 --> 00:25:24,608
is what I'm starting to say.

726
00:25:24,608 --> 00:25:26,977
But we do have more tools to

727
00:25:26,977 --> 00:25:28,112
answer the calls with, and the

728
00:25:28,112 --> 00:25:29,112
coordination comes at the

729
00:25:29,112 --> 00:25:30,246
communication center.

730
00:25:30,246 --> 00:25:31,715
>> Okay. The communications are

731
00:25:31,715 --> 00:25:33,116
good. And then when we're

732
00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:36,116
looking at the response here

733
00:25:36,286 --> 00:25:38,855
now, and I appreciate moving

734
00:25:38,855 --> 00:25:41,855
forward to the mobile crisis

735
00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:44,161
unit as well to reduce the

736
00:25:44,161 --> 00:25:45,729
amount of personnel that's not

737
00:25:45,729 --> 00:25:48,729
responding to an emergency call

738
00:25:48,932 --> 00:25:51,368
as well. And how, how are how

739
00:25:51,368 --> 00:25:52,936
are you guys looking at at

740
00:25:52,936 --> 00:25:53,971
where to deploy those? Because

741
00:25:53,971 --> 00:25:55,339
clearly, I mean, downtown

742
00:25:55,339 --> 00:25:56,473
obviously has the largest

743
00:25:56,473 --> 00:25:58,608
number of calls when it comes

744
00:25:58,608 --> 00:26:00,430
to that population, but we're

745
00:26:00,430 --> 00:26:02,145
seeing it throughout the entire

746
00:26:02,145 --> 00:26:04,140
city. Can you maybe talk a

747
00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:06,182
little bit about what, what the

748
00:26:06,182 --> 00:26:08,685
effort is to reduce the number

749
00:26:08,685 --> 00:26:11,187
of non-emergency calls by ems

750
00:26:11,187 --> 00:26:12,655
by using the, the, the mobile

751
00:26:12,655 --> 00:26:14,624
crisis unit?

752
00:26:14,624 --> 00:26:15,825
>> Yeah. So let me back up just

753
00:26:15,825 --> 00:26:16,727
a little bit to go forward.

754
00:26:16,727 --> 00:26:17,760
There's actually three

755
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,795
different units out on the

756
00:26:18,795 --> 00:26:19,863
street. There's a street

757
00:26:19,863 --> 00:26:21,631
overdose response team. There's

758
00:26:21,631 --> 00:26:23,766
a mobile crisis unit that deals

759
00:26:23,766 --> 00:26:26,166
with psychiatric problems the

760
00:26:26,303 --> 00:26:28,838
most. And then you have the mih

761
00:26:28,838 --> 00:26:29,906
unit, which could be

762
00:26:29,906 --> 00:26:31,675
non-emergency in-home. Say a

763
00:26:31,675 --> 00:26:33,476
loved one needs a prescription

764
00:26:33,476 --> 00:26:35,178
filled, that would be an mih

765
00:26:35,178 --> 00:26:36,379
call. They can go in the home,

766
00:26:36,379 --> 00:26:38,181
help them with their script,

767
00:26:38,181 --> 00:26:40,170
and get it placed. There's a

768
00:26:40,170 --> 00:26:41,717
litany of calls that m h can

769
00:26:41,717 --> 00:26:43,220
run because they have a

770
00:26:43,220 --> 00:26:45,355
clinician with them, and a

771
00:26:45,355 --> 00:26:47,755
paramedic. Mcu handles the

772
00:26:47,924 --> 00:26:50,427
calls across the city as well,

773
00:26:50,427 --> 00:26:52,195
which is the crisis unit.

774
00:26:52,195 --> 00:26:53,964
They're handling the

775
00:26:53,964 --> 00:26:55,798
non-emergency psychiatric

776
00:26:55,798 --> 00:26:57,968
problems that sometimes elevate.

777
00:26:57,968 --> 00:26:59,350
And we have that continuity of

778
00:26:59,350 --> 00:27:01,938
care because we have a

779
00:27:01,938 --> 00:27:04,938
paramedic on the unit along

780
00:27:06,275 --> 00:27:08,477
with a navigator. So those are

781
00:27:08,477 --> 00:27:10,547
employed a lot in the downtown.

782
00:27:10,547 --> 00:27:12,782
But our companies as well, they

783
00:27:12,782 --> 00:27:14,217
have the ability to call what

784
00:27:14,217 --> 00:27:16,118
we call a Tad provider. And we

785
00:27:16,118 --> 00:27:17,286
have over 50 Tad providers that

786
00:27:17,286 --> 00:27:18,555
are working in the department

787
00:27:18,555 --> 00:27:20,323
now. And that number is growing

788
00:27:20,323 --> 00:27:21,491
daily, but that's transport to

789
00:27:21,491 --> 00:27:23,891
alternate destination, and it's

790
00:27:24,660 --> 00:27:26,229
a paramedic that can make the

791
00:27:26,229 --> 00:27:28,298
triage call that says, hey,

792
00:27:28,298 --> 00:27:31,535
this person needs to go to this

793
00:27:31,535 --> 00:27:32,969
type of a facility and the

794
00:27:32,969 --> 00:27:34,704
company on scene will stay and

795
00:27:34,704 --> 00:27:36,173
wait for a transport. And that

796
00:27:36,173 --> 00:27:38,800
transport can happen with a

797
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,408
number of different units,

798
00:27:40,543 --> 00:27:40,843
including the sort and the mcu

799
00:27:40,843 --> 00:27:42,646
units.

800
00:27:42,646 --> 00:27:44,114
>> Okay, good. And then I guess

801
00:27:44,114 --> 00:27:47,500
the final and more and more of

802
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:48,885
a, I guess, direction or your

803
00:27:48,885 --> 00:27:50,530
you MAY be already doing this

804
00:27:50,530 --> 00:27:52,389
or moving in this direction,

805
00:27:52,389 --> 00:27:54,891
but one. MR. Chair, I'll go

806
00:27:54,891 --> 00:27:55,958
ahead and move the

807
00:27:55,958 --> 00:27:58,358
recommendation to the Council.

808
00:27:59,562 --> 00:28:01,731
But also one of the concerns is

809
00:28:01,731 --> 00:28:03,567
how, how we're coordinating

810
00:28:03,567 --> 00:28:05,368
with the Community Wellness

811
00:28:05,368 --> 00:28:06,369
Response Team and the homeless

812
00:28:06,369 --> 00:28:08,538
Engagement and response team

813
00:28:08,538 --> 00:28:09,873
that are that are county run

814
00:28:09,873 --> 00:28:11,675
and could be maybe doing some

815
00:28:11,675 --> 00:28:12,742
of that work or maybe a

816
00:28:12,742 --> 00:28:14,711
response to that work so that

817
00:28:14,711 --> 00:28:16,146
we don't have an ems call, as

818
00:28:16,146 --> 00:28:17,613
you, as you mentioned, if the

819
00:28:17,613 --> 00:28:18,748
person, if there's a person

820
00:28:18,748 --> 00:28:19,783
who's cut themselves and needs

821
00:28:19,783 --> 00:28:20,917
a medical immediate response,

822
00:28:20,917 --> 00:28:22,686
well, of course you're going to

823
00:28:22,686 --> 00:28:23,886
have an ambulance there. But in

824
00:28:23,886 --> 00:28:25,621
many of these situations, at

825
00:28:25,621 --> 00:28:27,691
least when I've done the ride

826
00:28:27,691 --> 00:28:28,757
alongs, they're not immediate

827
00:28:28,757 --> 00:28:30,559
emergency response calls.

828
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:32,329
They're they need to be

829
00:28:32,329 --> 00:28:33,796
addressed. But, but I think

830
00:28:33,796 --> 00:28:37,734
that's I think we still have a,

831
00:28:37,734 --> 00:28:39,535
a coordination issue on how to

832
00:28:39,535 --> 00:28:42,535
maximize both all the different

833
00:28:43,173 --> 00:28:46,142
teams, the, the mih, the mcu,

834
00:28:46,142 --> 00:28:47,510
the the cwrt and then the heart

835
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:48,979
team. You know, I think that

836
00:28:48,979 --> 00:28:50,790
that I think is the

837
00:28:50,790 --> 00:28:53,790
coordination that I'd like to

838
00:28:53,382 --> 00:28:54,985
see moving forward in that

839
00:28:54,985 --> 00:28:56,252
effort. And I don't know if you

840
00:28:56,252 --> 00:28:58,540
have a you know, Captain Moore,

841
00:28:58,540 --> 00:28:59,889
I don't know if you've got some

842
00:28:59,889 --> 00:29:00,990
thoughts on this because you I

843
00:29:00,990 --> 00:29:02,158
appreciate your your, you know,

844
00:29:02,158 --> 00:29:04,600
the effort that you've done on

845
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,280
this. And I think it's evolved

846
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,896
a lot as well.

847
00:29:06,896 --> 00:29:08,980
>> So Captain Moore is not with

848
00:29:08,980 --> 00:29:11,301
us today, but he's working on

849
00:29:11,301 --> 00:29:13,350
the the care court for us and

850
00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:15,138
we continue to add to care

851
00:29:15,138 --> 00:29:16,972
court. But Deputy Chief Sharon

852
00:29:16,972 --> 00:29:18,641
is here and he does run the ems

853
00:29:18,641 --> 00:29:19,843
division. So I'm going to let

854
00:29:19,843 --> 00:29:21,745
him talk about the heart team

855
00:29:21,745 --> 00:29:22,545
and see a little bit to answer

856
00:29:22,545 --> 00:29:23,813
that question.

857
00:29:23,813 --> 00:29:26,416
>> Great. And the more files is

858
00:29:26,416 --> 00:29:27,884
what I hear, you know. Yeah.

859
00:29:27,884 --> 00:29:29,552
>> Hi, Sharon. Deputy chief, I

860
00:29:29,552 --> 00:29:31,254
oversee the ems and cms

861
00:29:31,254 --> 00:29:33,556
division. So for your question

862
00:29:33,556 --> 00:29:35,792
with 988, so nine, eight eight

863
00:29:35,792 --> 00:29:36,459
gets essentially two

864
00:29:36,459 --> 00:29:37,861
evaluations through the

865
00:29:37,861 --> 00:29:38,928
dispatch center. Law

866
00:29:38,928 --> 00:29:40,630
enforcement has a contract with

867
00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:42,265
nine, eight, eight. They're the

868
00:29:42,265 --> 00:29:44,334
first line. And then we at the

869
00:29:44,334 --> 00:29:45,502
comm center also have a 90 day

870
00:29:45,502 --> 00:29:47,303
contract as well for an

871
00:29:47,303 --> 00:29:49,720
evaluation of 988. So if an

872
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,507
individual calls 911 with a

873
00:29:50,507 --> 00:29:52,507
behavioral health emergency,

874
00:29:52,775 --> 00:29:54,476
our dispatch center will send

875
00:29:54,476 --> 00:29:56,980
it over to 988 for an

876
00:29:56,980 --> 00:29:59,820
evaluation that is done through

877
00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:00,950
phone interview. If that

878
00:30:00,950 --> 00:30:01,851
individual hits certain

879
00:30:01,851 --> 00:30:04,119
benchmarks, they get referred

880
00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:05,320
to the c, wrt, which is ran

881
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,560
through, well, space. And then

882
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,656
they will respond to the field,

883
00:30:12,462 --> 00:30:14,297
to the individual. If. Cwcwt

884
00:30:14,297 --> 00:30:15,331
doesn't feel comfortable with

885
00:30:15,331 --> 00:30:17,166
the incident, it gets referred

886
00:30:17,166 --> 00:30:19,369
back to the 911 system back to

887
00:30:19,369 --> 00:30:20,770
the fire department. And then

888
00:30:20,770 --> 00:30:22,338
with that we will respond to

889
00:30:22,338 --> 00:30:23,940
unit out. Maybe because there

890
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:25,108
was a scene safety issue, maybe

891
00:30:25,108 --> 00:30:26,475
they identified a medical

892
00:30:26,475 --> 00:30:27,910
component attached to the

893
00:30:27,910 --> 00:30:30,460
individual. So we'll send a

894
00:30:30,460 --> 00:30:31,180
first responder with an

895
00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:34,180
ambulance and then our mobile

896
00:30:34,384 --> 00:30:35,485
crisis unit, which is a

897
00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:37,253
paramedic who has a higher

898
00:30:37,253 --> 00:30:38,788
level of training for the

899
00:30:38,788 --> 00:30:40,788
transport alternative

900
00:30:41,291 --> 00:30:42,292
destination program with a

901
00:30:42,292 --> 00:30:44,930
clinician, a clinical social

902
00:30:44,930 --> 00:30:45,561
worker from sac County

903
00:30:45,561 --> 00:30:46,763
Behavioral Health. That's a

904
00:30:46,763 --> 00:30:50,300
zero cost contract that we have

905
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:51,334
with the county that they did

906
00:30:51,334 --> 00:30:52,368
specifically with the fire

907
00:30:52,368 --> 00:30:53,636
department, and then those

908
00:30:53,636 --> 00:30:55,338
individuals will go to the

909
00:30:55,338 --> 00:30:57,730
scene. They'll make a

910
00:30:57,730 --> 00:30:58,942
determination on what the

911
00:30:58,942 --> 00:31:01,342
proper transportation to the

912
00:31:01,410 --> 00:31:03,246
for the individual looks like

913
00:31:03,246 --> 00:31:05,214
in the ems division and the ems

914
00:31:05,214 --> 00:31:06,816
division, we took an overview

915
00:31:06,816 --> 00:31:07,984
of. We want to send the right

916
00:31:07,984 --> 00:31:08,985
resource to the right patient

917
00:31:08,985 --> 00:31:10,786
at the right time. Not

918
00:31:10,786 --> 00:31:11,920
everybody needs to go to the

919
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,790
emergency room. So we will try

920
00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:14,724
to identify what's best for the

921
00:31:14,724 --> 00:31:15,858
individual that we're

922
00:31:15,858 --> 00:31:17,394
responding to. And so they'll

923
00:31:17,394 --> 00:31:18,994
make a determination. We have

924
00:31:18,994 --> 00:31:20,463
the ability to take people

925
00:31:20,463 --> 00:31:21,965
strictly or straight to a

926
00:31:21,965 --> 00:31:23,466
behavioral health center for

927
00:31:23,466 --> 00:31:24,800
care. They can bypass the

928
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,935
emergency room, or we'll take

929
00:31:25,935 --> 00:31:27,470
them to an emergency room for

930
00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:29,238
medical clearance if they hit

931
00:31:29,238 --> 00:31:30,807
certain criteria. So that's how

932
00:31:30,807 --> 00:31:32,800
we utilize nine, eight, eight

933
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,509
and cwrt.

934
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:35,110
>> How many of those are we

935
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:35,378
actually moving to the crib?

936
00:31:35,378 --> 00:31:37,378
You know.

937
00:31:38,810 --> 00:31:40,283
>> I can I just ask a question

938
00:31:40,283 --> 00:31:41,751
to clarify, at least for me,

939
00:31:41,751 --> 00:31:44,151
what you've just described

940
00:31:44,286 --> 00:31:45,622
would be responded to with with

941
00:31:45,622 --> 00:31:48,224
what would it be responded to

942
00:31:48,224 --> 00:31:49,659
with a, with a truck and an

943
00:31:49,659 --> 00:31:52,590
ambulance. With an ambulance

944
00:31:54,264 --> 00:31:54,997
only a truck. Only non fire

945
00:31:54,997 --> 00:31:56,365
apparatus.

946
00:31:56,365 --> 00:31:57,734
>> So after nine, eight, eight

947
00:31:57,734 --> 00:31:59,735
does their evaluation and if it

948
00:31:59,735 --> 00:32:00,836
gets pushed back to the fire

949
00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:02,572
department, because for certain

950
00:32:02,572 --> 00:32:03,740
whatever reason they do, it's

951
00:32:03,740 --> 00:32:05,141
usually a first responder and

952
00:32:05,141 --> 00:32:08,110
an ambulance that will get

953
00:32:08,110 --> 00:32:09,212
dispatched for it. And then the

954
00:32:09,212 --> 00:32:10,513
company officer, the captain

955
00:32:10,513 --> 00:32:12,615
will make a determination on

956
00:32:12,615 --> 00:32:14,484
what's needed for the next part.

957
00:32:14,484 --> 00:32:15,885
They'll usually cancel the

958
00:32:15,885 --> 00:32:18,540
ambulance. Our mobile crisis

959
00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:19,922
unit will go out and then we'll

960
00:32:19,922 --> 00:32:21,324
they'll do an evaluation on the

961
00:32:21,324 --> 00:32:22,792
individual and determine the

962
00:32:22,792 --> 00:32:23,393
right course of action for that

963
00:32:23,393 --> 00:32:25,393
individual.

964
00:32:26,362 --> 00:32:27,630
>> So so an ambulance would

965
00:32:27,630 --> 00:32:27,796
respond.

966
00:32:27,796 --> 00:32:29,650
>> It could either be a

967
00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:30,700
paramedic ambulance depending

968
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,468
on the individual, or we'll use

969
00:32:32,468 --> 00:32:33,903
one of our contract ambulances.

970
00:32:33,903 --> 00:32:35,710
>> Right. And then a

971
00:32:35,710 --> 00:32:36,380
determination that the captain

972
00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:37,573
would make a determination

973
00:32:37,573 --> 00:32:39,420
whether that really was

974
00:32:39,420 --> 00:32:39,409
necessary to have on scene or

975
00:32:39,409 --> 00:32:41,409
not.

976
00:32:41,678 --> 00:32:42,178
>> And and the lead paramedic

977
00:32:42,178 --> 00:32:43,579
on scene.

978
00:32:43,579 --> 00:32:45,815
>> Yeah, the lead paramedic on

979
00:32:45,815 --> 00:32:46,783
scene. Okay, okay. But

980
00:32:46,783 --> 00:32:47,884
nonetheless, you're you're

981
00:32:47,884 --> 00:32:49,419
you've got an ambulance at

982
00:32:49,419 --> 00:32:51,220
least out there.

983
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:52,622
>> Yeah. If needed. Yes.

984
00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:54,900
>> Okay. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

985
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:55,757
>> Oh, yes. And then the final

986
00:32:55,757 --> 00:32:57,260
place is, you know, the crib or

987
00:32:57,260 --> 00:32:58,795
the crisis receiving center. Is

988
00:32:58,795 --> 00:33:00,496
that is that your primary

989
00:33:00,496 --> 00:33:01,964
location to transport somebody?

990
00:33:01,964 --> 00:33:04,364
>> We'll take individuals to

991
00:33:05,969 --> 00:33:07,337
South County Medical Health

992
00:33:07,337 --> 00:33:09,737
Center, or we'll take

993
00:33:10,606 --> 00:33:12,108
individuals to Sierra Vista

994
00:33:12,108 --> 00:33:13,509
down in the South area. And

995
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:14,677
then there's a couple other

996
00:33:14,677 --> 00:33:16,713
agencies that are coming on

997
00:33:16,713 --> 00:33:17,714
board with the county. The

998
00:33:17,714 --> 00:33:19,714
transports Alternative

999
00:33:20,716 --> 00:33:22,451
Destination program is

1000
00:33:22,451 --> 00:33:24,587
organized and run by the county

1001
00:33:24,587 --> 00:33:26,655
ems that's been approved by the

1002
00:33:26,655 --> 00:33:28,291
state. So we have to operate

1003
00:33:28,291 --> 00:33:30,693
within their purview. So they

1004
00:33:30,693 --> 00:33:32,562
they're the ones that hold the

1005
00:33:32,562 --> 00:33:34,363
contracts with the facilities

1006
00:33:34,363 --> 00:33:35,331
that we can transport to.

1007
00:33:35,331 --> 00:33:36,990
>> Okay. Well thank you, I

1008
00:33:36,990 --> 00:33:37,633
appreciate that. Thanks.

1009
00:33:37,633 --> 00:33:39,702
Captain Moore, I just and thank

1010
00:33:39,702 --> 00:33:40,903
you for the helping and

1011
00:33:40,903 --> 00:33:42,637
bringing the agencies together

1012
00:33:42,637 --> 00:33:43,839
to try to coordinate better as

1013
00:33:43,839 --> 00:33:45,775
well. And so, MR. CHAIRMAN, I

1014
00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:47,977
think one of the the key things

1015
00:33:47,977 --> 00:33:49,110
here is any, any, any other

1016
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:51,247
methods where we're diverting

1017
00:33:51,247 --> 00:33:52,281
folks to additional like

1018
00:33:52,281 --> 00:33:53,783
whether it's the crisis

1019
00:33:53,783 --> 00:33:55,251
receiving center here downtown

1020
00:33:55,251 --> 00:33:57,353
or Sierra down in the South

1021
00:33:57,353 --> 00:33:59,589
area. I think that also helps.

1022
00:33:59,589 --> 00:34:00,990
What is, what has occurred on

1023
00:34:00,990 --> 00:34:02,725
the off load time? Because if

1024
00:34:02,725 --> 00:34:05,261
they go to the er room, they

1025
00:34:05,261 --> 00:34:08,497
got to stay there and it's

1026
00:34:08,497 --> 00:34:09,965
almost $1 million in, in lost

1027
00:34:09,965 --> 00:34:12,000
cost hours that we're losing

1028
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,135
there. So thank you CHAIRMAN. I

1029
00:34:13,135 --> 00:34:14,303
think we'll move the motion

1030
00:34:14,303 --> 00:34:15,404
there and then the direction on

1031
00:34:15,404 --> 00:34:17,804
on the further coordination

1032
00:34:18,574 --> 00:34:18,774
with the the heart team and the

1033
00:34:18,774 --> 00:34:20,774
wcrt.

1034
00:34:21,877 --> 00:34:24,130
>> So okay, we have a motion.

1035
00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:26,150
>> We have a motion to accept

1036
00:34:26,150 --> 00:34:27,150
the order and send it on to the

1037
00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:27,984
council. Is there a second to

1038
00:34:27,984 --> 00:34:29,218
that motion?

1039
00:34:29,218 --> 00:34:31,154
>> I'm happy to second it.

1040
00:34:31,154 --> 00:34:32,355
>> All right. We have a second

1041
00:34:32,355 --> 00:34:33,322
from the vice mayor and vice

1042
00:34:33,322 --> 00:34:35,322
mayor. You're next.

1043
00:34:35,424 --> 00:34:37,293
>> Yes. First, I want to

1044
00:34:37,293 --> 00:34:40,293
commend the fire department on

1045
00:34:41,264 --> 00:34:42,698
getting the wall time down from

1046
00:34:42,698 --> 00:34:44,567
6 hours to 28 minutes. That is

1047
00:34:44,567 --> 00:34:46,535
huge. And I know it's just, you

1048
00:34:46,535 --> 00:34:48,404
know, I used to drive by Sutter

1049
00:34:48,404 --> 00:34:49,539
and Kaiser, and I used to see

1050
00:34:49,539 --> 00:34:50,706
all the ambulances just parked

1051
00:34:50,706 --> 00:34:52,408
outside. And I thought they can

1052
00:34:52,408 --> 00:34:53,509
be helping saving people. But

1053
00:34:53,509 --> 00:34:54,643
right now they're just sitting

1054
00:34:54,643 --> 00:34:56,446
there waiting to offload. So I

1055
00:34:56,446 --> 00:34:57,646
just want to commend you on

1056
00:34:57,646 --> 00:34:59,448
your work for that. And then

1057
00:34:59,448 --> 00:35:03,480
just one question for for our

1058
00:35:03,850 --> 00:35:04,253
city auditor. On one of the

1059
00:35:04,253 --> 00:35:07,123
slides, you said, it said that

1060
00:35:07,123 --> 00:35:08,324
nearly 20% of the fire

1061
00:35:08,324 --> 00:35:10,724
incidents in 2024 were flagged

1062
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:12,428
as related to homelessness,

1063
00:35:12,428 --> 00:35:14,300
because you're doing the

1064
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:16,132
homeless audit as well. Do you

1065
00:35:16,132 --> 00:35:19,368
have a dollar amount of what

1066
00:35:19,368 --> 00:35:20,690
that 20% looks like? What would

1067
00:35:20,690 --> 00:35:22,690
be?

1068
00:35:23,405 --> 00:35:25,875
>> We did a very high level

1069
00:35:25,875 --> 00:35:28,875
calculation of what is 20%, the

1070
00:35:29,111 --> 00:35:32,315
cost of 20% of the whole fire

1071
00:35:32,315 --> 00:35:34,830
ems division budget. I'm going

1072
00:35:34,830 --> 00:35:38,283
to have to look it up real

1073
00:35:41,691 --> 00:35:42,858
quick, if you don't mind. We

1074
00:35:42,858 --> 00:35:44,559
calculated if we just did a

1075
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:46,959
rough calculation of 20% of

1076
00:35:48,497 --> 00:35:51,133
their 153 million a year budget

1077
00:35:51,133 --> 00:35:52,134
would be about $30 million.

1078
00:35:52,134 --> 00:35:54,134
>> 30 million. Okay.

1079
00:35:54,670 --> 00:35:56,438
>> I mean, some of those are,

1080
00:35:56,438 --> 00:35:58,838
you know, true emergencies,

1081
00:35:59,708 --> 00:36:00,900
life threatening. So but yeah,

1082
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:01,877
okay.

1083
00:36:01,877 --> 00:36:04,780
>> I think my ask then is for

1084
00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:05,513
when you do your audit of

1085
00:36:05,513 --> 00:36:07,283
homelessness and you bring it

1086
00:36:07,283 --> 00:36:08,717
to council, if you can just

1087
00:36:08,717 --> 00:36:10,886
include that number as a

1088
00:36:10,886 --> 00:36:13,286
subcategory of city related

1089
00:36:13,422 --> 00:36:15,191
expenses, that'd be great.

1090
00:36:15,191 --> 00:36:15,491
>> Okay. We can try to think

1091
00:36:15,491 --> 00:36:16,659
because.

1092
00:36:16,659 --> 00:36:18,600
>> That audit into the staff

1093
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:19,462
report, just because obviously

1094
00:36:19,462 --> 00:36:22,462
there are two different audits,

1095
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:25,633
right? But how much money the

1096
00:36:25,633 --> 00:36:26,735
fire department is spending

1097
00:36:26,735 --> 00:36:28,137
responding to homelessness

1098
00:36:28,137 --> 00:36:29,938
related calls, I think is

1099
00:36:29,938 --> 00:36:31,390
important to factor into the

1100
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:32,808
audit. I mean, that's still

1101
00:36:32,808 --> 00:36:34,276
dollars allocated to this issue

1102
00:36:34,276 --> 00:36:36,412
that we're trying to address.

1103
00:36:36,412 --> 00:36:38,347
And so if there's a way that

1104
00:36:38,347 --> 00:36:39,348
you can plug it into your staff

1105
00:36:39,348 --> 00:36:40,483
report, that'd be great.

1106
00:36:40,483 --> 00:36:42,317
>> Sure. Okay. Yeah. Because

1107
00:36:42,317 --> 00:36:43,918
that is going to be specific to

1108
00:36:43,918 --> 00:36:46,318
our expenditures on the

1109
00:36:46,455 --> 00:36:47,657
shelters, but I'll see what we

1110
00:36:47,657 --> 00:36:48,230
can do.

1111
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:49,825
>> Sounds good.

1112
00:36:49,825 --> 00:36:51,193
>> Thank you. I can highlight

1113
00:36:51,193 --> 00:36:52,962
it.

1114
00:36:52,962 --> 00:36:55,962
>> Okay. Thank you, thank you.

1115
00:36:56,232 --> 00:36:58,434
Just on the same point, I'm

1116
00:36:58,434 --> 00:37:00,503
assuming of that 30 million

1117
00:37:00,503 --> 00:37:03,238
some some of that is is

1118
00:37:03,238 --> 00:37:04,239
recovered by Medi-Cal. Is that

1119
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,975
reimbursement? Is that true?

1120
00:37:05,975 --> 00:37:06,308
>> I believe so, yeah. If they

1121
00:37:06,308 --> 00:37:08,308
have.

1122
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:09,477
>> Do you have any kind of do

1123
00:37:09,477 --> 00:37:10,412
you have any kind of estimate

1124
00:37:10,412 --> 00:37:12,381
on on that.

1125
00:37:12,381 --> 00:37:13,549
>> We did not look at look at

1126
00:37:13,549 --> 00:37:15,316
their billings or reimbursement.

1127
00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:19,516
So I'm not sure. I don't know

1128
00:37:19,655 --> 00:37:22,910
if fire has some numbers. No.

1129
00:37:22,910 --> 00:37:25,691
>> Yeah. Yeah. Any kind of any

1130
00:37:27,663 --> 00:37:29,732
kind of sense of, of. How much,

1131
00:37:29,732 --> 00:37:31,867
how much of the, how much of

1132
00:37:31,867 --> 00:37:33,702
the homeless response ends up

1133
00:37:33,702 --> 00:37:34,690
being covered by Medi-Cal

1134
00:37:34,690 --> 00:37:35,671
reimbursements?

1135
00:37:35,671 --> 00:37:36,905
>> I think what we could do,

1136
00:37:36,905 --> 00:37:39,305
because there are different

1137
00:37:40,876 --> 00:37:43,445
focuses. So yes, some of it is

1138
00:37:43,445 --> 00:37:44,780
recovered through the Medi-Cal

1139
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:45,948
reimbursements. We need to get

1140
00:37:45,948 --> 00:37:47,416
you that number. And we could

1141
00:37:47,416 --> 00:37:48,884
drill into the straight line

1142
00:37:48,884 --> 00:37:50,586
number of the 30 million as

1143
00:37:50,586 --> 00:37:53,489
well. Instead of separating the

1144
00:37:53,489 --> 00:37:56,910
two, the homeless audit and the

1145
00:37:56,910 --> 00:37:57,459
ems audit, we can work with our

1146
00:37:57,459 --> 00:37:59,662
biller and provide those exact

1147
00:37:59,662 --> 00:38:01,831
numbers, and we can run it

1148
00:38:01,831 --> 00:38:03,966
through, run it by farishta as

1149
00:38:03,966 --> 00:38:05,901
well, so she can see the okay.

1150
00:38:05,901 --> 00:38:08,304
>> I mean, I think that would

1151
00:38:08,304 --> 00:38:09,705
give us a more complete and

1152
00:38:09,705 --> 00:38:11,239
accurate picture of, of what

1153
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,508
the net cost.

1154
00:38:12,508 --> 00:38:14,343
>> Yeah. There's, there's a lot,

1155
00:38:14,343 --> 00:38:16,545
a lot goes into it too, because

1156
00:38:16,545 --> 00:38:19,545
there's some of that percentage

1157
00:38:19,815 --> 00:38:21,684
are people that call us out and

1158
00:38:21,684 --> 00:38:24,286
then sign out. They don't want

1159
00:38:24,286 --> 00:38:25,621
our medical advice. So there's

1160
00:38:25,621 --> 00:38:27,189
a lot that goes into getting

1161
00:38:27,189 --> 00:38:28,123
you that final number. But we

1162
00:38:28,123 --> 00:38:30,123
can get it.

1163
00:38:30,593 --> 00:38:32,695
>> Sure. Okay. Thanks, chief. I

1164
00:38:32,695 --> 00:38:33,862
wanted to just explore this

1165
00:38:33,862 --> 00:38:35,764
general topic a little bit

1166
00:38:35,764 --> 00:38:39,364
further. And I see Brian back

1167
00:38:40,569 --> 00:38:44,340
in the the back row, not quite

1168
00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:47,340
ducking down, but. I. Brian,

1169
00:38:47,509 --> 00:38:50,509
can you shed any further

1170
00:38:51,479 --> 00:38:53,879
elaboration on, on this

1171
00:38:54,316 --> 00:38:56,552
particular subject of, of

1172
00:38:56,552 --> 00:38:58,952
emergency medical calls for,

1173
00:38:59,321 --> 00:39:01,321
for homeless.

1174
00:39:01,590 --> 00:39:02,625
>> Sure. Brian Pedro director,

1175
00:39:02,625 --> 00:39:04,625
Department of Community

1176
00:39:06,962 --> 00:39:08,130
response I have the unique

1177
00:39:08,130 --> 00:39:10,132
experience and opportunity to

1178
00:39:10,132 --> 00:39:11,933
have spent many years with the

1179
00:39:11,933 --> 00:39:14,403
fire department and in the ems

1180
00:39:14,403 --> 00:39:17,403
division. So I've looked at

1181
00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:19,641
this from both sides. The. If

1182
00:39:19,641 --> 00:39:20,642
you recall, the Department of

1183
00:39:20,642 --> 00:39:21,610
Community Response was actually

1184
00:39:21,610 --> 00:39:23,145
brought up to be the

1185
00:39:23,145 --> 00:39:25,545
alternative response for the

1186
00:39:25,614 --> 00:39:28,250
city to not have exactly what

1187
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:31,530
we have going on with fire and

1188
00:39:31,530 --> 00:39:33,222
police going to calls that come

1189
00:39:33,222 --> 00:39:34,222
out as 911 calls, but are

1190
00:39:34,222 --> 00:39:36,222
alternative response calls

1191
00:39:38,293 --> 00:39:39,761
other than what we have in dcr.

1192
00:39:39,761 --> 00:39:40,562
So we're kind of running pilot

1193
00:39:40,562 --> 00:39:42,431
programs right now. What we

1194
00:39:42,431 --> 00:39:46,631
have in dcr, we have also an

1195
00:39:46,935 --> 00:39:50,505
alt response going ours, I feel

1196
00:39:50,505 --> 00:39:51,607
ties in in that all of our in

1197
00:39:51,607 --> 00:39:54,109
our cities that are out

1198
00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:56,509
providing outreach also provide

1199
00:39:57,379 --> 00:39:59,581
that sort of that substance

1200
00:39:59,581 --> 00:40:02,751
outreach along with it. So we

1201
00:40:02,751 --> 00:40:05,319
also have the, the kits, the,

1202
00:40:05,319 --> 00:40:08,256
the no harm kits that we hand

1203
00:40:08,256 --> 00:40:09,925
out as well. We can transport

1204
00:40:09,925 --> 00:40:12,600
and we do transport to

1205
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,795
treatment centers. One of the

1206
00:40:13,795 --> 00:40:17,132
things I'm also looking at is

1207
00:40:17,132 --> 00:40:20,369
in our shelters of carving off

1208
00:40:20,369 --> 00:40:22,236
the people that that want to

1209
00:40:22,236 --> 00:40:23,972
work, getting clean and sober

1210
00:40:23,972 --> 00:40:25,507
into a separate part of our

1211
00:40:25,507 --> 00:40:26,708
shelters so that when we take

1212
00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,276
them to their appointments to

1213
00:40:28,276 --> 00:40:30,478
get treatment for the

1214
00:40:30,478 --> 00:40:31,813
injectables, for the chemical

1215
00:40:31,813 --> 00:40:33,148
dependency, that then they go

1216
00:40:33,148 --> 00:40:34,817
back into a shelter with others

1217
00:40:34,817 --> 00:40:35,984
that are also trying to get

1218
00:40:35,984 --> 00:40:36,985
clean, and not just into the

1219
00:40:36,985 --> 00:40:39,985
general population of our of

1220
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:44,493
our shelters. So we are in

1221
00:40:44,493 --> 00:40:46,662
connection with cw. We work

1222
00:40:46,662 --> 00:40:48,430
with the county heart team now,

1223
00:40:48,430 --> 00:40:49,865
so we already have the

1224
00:40:49,865 --> 00:40:51,333
behavioral health at our

1225
00:40:51,333 --> 00:40:53,733
fingertips in our outreach

1226
00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:56,771
setting. We also have the

1227
00:40:56,771 --> 00:40:59,675
backline to cw if we need a

1228
00:40:59,675 --> 00:41:01,743
crisis response, and then we're

1229
00:41:01,743 --> 00:41:03,612
looking at JULY to pilot our

1230
00:41:03,612 --> 00:41:06,612
program where we're looking at

1231
00:41:06,882 --> 00:41:09,510
taking the calls on the sac pd

1232
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:12,621
side, when they come in to 911

1233
00:41:12,621 --> 00:41:14,856
and looking at calls that are

1234
00:41:14,856 --> 00:41:16,856
Non-priority non-emergency

1235
00:41:16,858 --> 00:41:19,858
alternate calls that we can

1236
00:41:20,195 --> 00:41:22,631
respond to and then provide

1237
00:41:22,631 --> 00:41:25,567
outreach or transport to either

1238
00:41:25,567 --> 00:41:27,669
substance or behavioral health,

1239
00:41:27,669 --> 00:41:30,690
the treatment to alternate

1240
00:41:30,572 --> 00:41:32,741
destination is specific to the

1241
00:41:32,741 --> 00:41:34,242
fire department as an ems

1242
00:41:34,242 --> 00:41:35,977
agency, because they are an

1243
00:41:35,977 --> 00:41:38,977
ambulance ems agency, so they

1244
00:41:40,282 --> 00:41:41,783
need the the certification and

1245
00:41:41,783 --> 00:41:43,652
and sac County ems agency to

1246
00:41:43,652 --> 00:41:46,210
allow them to transport.

1247
00:41:46,210 --> 00:41:49,291
Because dcr is not an ems

1248
00:41:49,291 --> 00:41:52,291
agency, we can simply transport.

1249
00:41:52,461 --> 00:41:55,163
So it is much easier for us to

1250
00:41:55,163 --> 00:41:57,933
manage all response. And it's

1251
00:41:57,933 --> 00:41:59,334
much closer. I mean, as you saw,

1252
00:41:59,334 --> 00:42:01,203
20% of these calls are homeless

1253
00:42:01,203 --> 00:42:02,170
related anyway. It's likely

1254
00:42:02,170 --> 00:42:03,672
people we already have

1255
00:42:03,672 --> 00:42:05,730
relationships with, and then

1256
00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:06,574
it's just a matter of

1257
00:42:06,574 --> 00:42:07,309
transporting them to where they

1258
00:42:07,309 --> 00:42:09,309
need is.

1259
00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:14,182
>> So is that transport by the

1260
00:42:14,182 --> 00:42:14,516
police department or is it by

1261
00:42:14,516 --> 00:42:15,183
your.

1262
00:42:15,183 --> 00:42:17,183
>> By our.

1263
00:42:19,588 --> 00:42:20,923
>> Unit dcr staff? So this just

1264
00:42:20,923 --> 00:42:23,125
occurred to me while you were

1265
00:42:23,125 --> 00:42:26,725
while you were speaking that I

1266
00:42:27,763 --> 00:42:30,432
know in the past there were

1267
00:42:30,432 --> 00:42:31,833
lots of instances when the when

1268
00:42:31,833 --> 00:42:34,936
the police would be called for

1269
00:42:34,936 --> 00:42:36,972
a behavioral health issue and

1270
00:42:36,972 --> 00:42:39,972
they would end up transporting

1271
00:42:40,420 --> 00:42:42,877
a person, say to Qmc, for

1272
00:42:42,877 --> 00:42:45,470
example. And so I'm assuming

1273
00:42:45,470 --> 00:42:46,915
that still occurs.

1274
00:42:46,915 --> 00:42:48,784
>> Yep. And so.

1275
00:42:48,784 --> 00:42:50,285
>> Are we looking. Now this is

1276
00:42:50,285 --> 00:42:51,586
making me wonder, are we

1277
00:42:51,586 --> 00:42:53,755
looking at the total universe

1278
00:42:53,755 --> 00:42:57,355
of, of what we're doing in

1279
00:42:57,692 --> 00:42:59,528
terms of response to, to, to

1280
00:42:59,528 --> 00:43:02,640
those who are homeless or on

1281
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,131
the street or even in shelters,

1282
00:43:03,131 --> 00:43:05,531
as you've been describing,

1283
00:43:06,701 --> 00:43:08,203
Brian, and who's the, who's the

1284
00:43:08,203 --> 00:43:10,603
appropriate entity to respond

1285
00:43:11,406 --> 00:43:13,806
and what's the appropriate

1286
00:43:13,909 --> 00:43:15,710
intervention and resolution? I,

1287
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:17,245
this is making me wonder about

1288
00:43:17,245 --> 00:43:18,647
whether we're taking a whether

1289
00:43:18,647 --> 00:43:20,449
we should be taking a look at

1290
00:43:20,449 --> 00:43:21,683
that whole, whole picture or

1291
00:43:21,683 --> 00:43:23,585
not. I don't know if that's a

1292
00:43:23,585 --> 00:43:24,853
question for you or not, but if

1293
00:43:24,853 --> 00:43:25,587
you want to say something about

1294
00:43:25,587 --> 00:43:26,822
that, I.

1295
00:43:26,822 --> 00:43:28,623
>> Sure, yeah. Because most

1296
00:43:28,623 --> 00:43:30,392
like if you look at just the,

1297
00:43:30,392 --> 00:43:33,392
the, I mean, just homelessness

1298
00:43:33,662 --> 00:43:34,763
alone, we're already, we likely

1299
00:43:34,763 --> 00:43:36,565
already know all these

1300
00:43:36,565 --> 00:43:38,399
individuals. We already offer

1301
00:43:38,399 --> 00:43:39,768
the substance care. We already

1302
00:43:39,768 --> 00:43:41,570
have connection to behavioral

1303
00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:43,437
health. So it's, it's already

1304
00:43:43,437 --> 00:43:46,241
there. We just haven't made it

1305
00:43:46,241 --> 00:43:48,844
official that dcr is providing

1306
00:43:48,844 --> 00:43:51,120
the alt response. We are in

1307
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,470
that we have a pilot now doing

1308
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:54,447
essentially what we're doing

1309
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:56,818
now, but we have the ability to

1310
00:43:56,818 --> 00:43:58,586
have we have nine teams out

1311
00:43:58,586 --> 00:44:00,322
there with any one of them

1312
00:44:00,322 --> 00:44:01,790
making contact with somebody

1313
00:44:01,790 --> 00:44:03,191
homeless, somebody with

1314
00:44:03,191 --> 00:44:03,958
substance, someone with

1315
00:44:03,958 --> 00:44:05,527
behavioral health. And then we

1316
00:44:05,527 --> 00:44:07,863
have the ability to transport

1317
00:44:07,863 --> 00:44:11,198
them if they need. The key is

1318
00:44:11,198 --> 00:44:14,402
to, to grab the individual when

1319
00:44:14,402 --> 00:44:15,837
they're willing to like I think

1320
00:44:15,837 --> 00:44:18,837
today, right now, I'm willing

1321
00:44:19,908 --> 00:44:22,430
to go try and help my treat my

1322
00:44:22,430 --> 00:44:23,678
substance dependency. And so

1323
00:44:23,678 --> 00:44:25,580
you have to be able to just

1324
00:44:25,580 --> 00:44:26,815
pick them up then and take them,

1325
00:44:26,815 --> 00:44:28,783
which we do have that ability.

1326
00:44:28,783 --> 00:44:31,518
Now, if you're waiting for

1327
00:44:31,518 --> 00:44:34,222
somebody to call, that's going

1328
00:44:34,222 --> 00:44:35,590
to be far and few and crisis,

1329
00:44:35,590 --> 00:44:38,590
I'd say there's a little

1330
00:44:38,826 --> 00:44:40,661
misnomer on crisis because

1331
00:44:40,661 --> 00:44:43,661
people that are actually in

1332
00:44:44,666 --> 00:44:47,602
crisis are, are few and far as

1333
00:44:47,602 --> 00:44:50,137
opposed to many people that we

1334
00:44:50,137 --> 00:44:51,873
see around that just have a

1335
00:44:51,873 --> 00:44:53,542
behavioral health concern of

1336
00:44:53,542 --> 00:44:57,142
some sort that needs to be

1337
00:44:57,845 --> 00:44:58,846
addressed. Those are the people

1338
00:44:58,846 --> 00:45:00,514
we're trying to capture.

1339
00:45:00,514 --> 00:45:00,749
There's very few actual crisis

1340
00:45:00,749 --> 00:45:01,449
events.

1341
00:45:01,449 --> 00:45:02,917
>> But you're encountering

1342
00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:04,819
those people by being out in

1343
00:45:04,819 --> 00:45:06,688
the field, not by responding to

1344
00:45:06,688 --> 00:45:08,790
calls. Is that is that right?

1345
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:09,858
>> Say that again.

1346
00:45:09,858 --> 00:45:11,259
>> The people you're

1347
00:45:11,259 --> 00:45:13,259
encountering and you're

1348
00:45:13,728 --> 00:45:15,163
describing, you're you're

1349
00:45:15,163 --> 00:45:17,398
encountering them mostly by

1350
00:45:17,398 --> 00:45:18,599
being out in the field and in

1351
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:20,669
contact with them, as opposed

1352
00:45:20,669 --> 00:45:22,771
to responding to a call that

1353
00:45:22,771 --> 00:45:24,272
says, I need help or, hey, this

1354
00:45:24,272 --> 00:45:26,700
person's in trouble. Can you

1355
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:26,408
come help? Is that is that

1356
00:45:26,408 --> 00:45:28,176
correct?

1357
00:45:28,176 --> 00:45:30,779
>> Yeah. So we are responding

1358
00:45:30,779 --> 00:45:32,513
to the 311 calls currently that

1359
00:45:32,513 --> 00:45:34,382
are called for homeless

1360
00:45:34,382 --> 00:45:37,382
concerns. And then the pilot

1361
00:45:38,286 --> 00:45:40,121
will be tied into 911 to then

1362
00:45:40,121 --> 00:45:41,623
dispatch us to those calls. So

1363
00:45:41,623 --> 00:45:43,623
it'll be both.

1364
00:45:44,525 --> 00:45:46,394
>> And okay, I see, I mean,

1365
00:45:46,394 --> 00:45:47,629
we're a little beyond the scope

1366
00:45:47,629 --> 00:45:49,531
of, of the audit, but it seems

1367
00:45:49,531 --> 00:45:50,665
to me that if we want to

1368
00:45:50,665 --> 00:45:52,633
understand where, where and how

1369
00:45:52,633 --> 00:45:54,803
we get more effective and more

1370
00:45:54,803 --> 00:45:57,237
efficient, we need to see this

1371
00:45:57,237 --> 00:45:59,541
larger universe. And so it's

1372
00:45:59,541 --> 00:46:01,976
not so much about what the fire

1373
00:46:01,976 --> 00:46:04,579
department's doing per se. It's

1374
00:46:04,579 --> 00:46:06,414
it's about how that fits in the,

1375
00:46:06,414 --> 00:46:08,850
in the in the broader context,

1376
00:46:08,850 --> 00:46:10,485
it seems to me and I, you know,

1377
00:46:10,485 --> 00:46:13,485
yesterday morning I was coming

1378
00:46:13,954 --> 00:46:15,256
in on on North 12th and at at

1379
00:46:15,256 --> 00:46:17,525
Salvation Army, there was a

1380
00:46:17,525 --> 00:46:20,361
fire truck and an ambulance,

1381
00:46:20,361 --> 00:46:22,564
lights flashing. And I'm, I

1382
00:46:22,564 --> 00:46:24,432
didn't stop to inquire, but I,

1383
00:46:24,432 --> 00:46:26,101
I make the assumption that that

1384
00:46:26,101 --> 00:46:28,703
that was a response to someone

1385
00:46:28,703 --> 00:46:31,703
at the Salvation Army shelter.

1386
00:46:36,945 --> 00:46:38,747
And I if if if that is so, then

1387
00:46:38,747 --> 00:46:40,982
if my assumption is correct,

1388
00:46:40,982 --> 00:46:43,840
then could part of that

1389
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,886
response be a, a function of

1390
00:46:44,886 --> 00:46:47,489
your staff's not out in the in

1391
00:46:47,489 --> 00:46:49,156
the in the field on a holiday

1392
00:46:49,156 --> 00:46:51,590
morning? Or would it be more

1393
00:46:51,590 --> 00:46:53,495
likely the, the nature of the

1394
00:46:53,495 --> 00:46:54,562
call that went to presumably to

1395
00:46:54,562 --> 00:46:54,896
911.

1396
00:46:54,896 --> 00:46:56,896
>> Right.

1397
00:46:57,198 --> 00:46:58,867
>> So maybe chief wants to

1398
00:46:58,867 --> 00:47:00,634
respond to that to her as well.

1399
00:47:00,634 --> 00:47:02,504
>> Sure. And I think what we're

1400
00:47:02,504 --> 00:47:03,705
trying to do is grab the call

1401
00:47:03,705 --> 00:47:05,472
when it first comes in, because

1402
00:47:05,472 --> 00:47:07,509
it'll come into pd first and

1403
00:47:07,509 --> 00:47:10,745
get triaged there. And if it's

1404
00:47:10,745 --> 00:47:12,280
a low level call that that

1405
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,150
doesn't. So it'll get handed

1406
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:16,217
over to fire if there's a

1407
00:47:16,217 --> 00:47:17,685
medical component to it. And so

1408
00:47:17,685 --> 00:47:19,454
if we grab the call on this

1409
00:47:19,454 --> 00:47:20,855
side before there's medical,

1410
00:47:20,855 --> 00:47:23,424
then we'll be looking at all

1411
00:47:23,424 --> 00:47:25,259
the calls in the city for the

1412
00:47:25,259 --> 00:47:27,328
person that's on the corner and

1413
00:47:27,328 --> 00:47:29,163
looks uncomfortable and is

1414
00:47:29,163 --> 00:47:31,299
bothering. Is it maybe in a

1415
00:47:31,299 --> 00:47:33,134
sitting in a business and

1416
00:47:33,134 --> 00:47:34,369
they're afraid to make contact

1417
00:47:34,369 --> 00:47:36,271
with them or tell them to leave?

1418
00:47:36,271 --> 00:47:38,139
That's going to go to pd to go

1419
00:47:38,139 --> 00:47:39,974
take that individual out. It's

1420
00:47:39,974 --> 00:47:42,476
probably somebody that we know

1421
00:47:42,476 --> 00:47:43,978
anyway. And for us to take that

1422
00:47:43,978 --> 00:47:46,748
call and go over there and find

1423
00:47:46,748 --> 00:47:48,150
out that it's Bob and say, hey,

1424
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:49,851
Bob, you know, I don't want you

1425
00:47:49,851 --> 00:47:50,985
here. Can we get you into

1426
00:47:50,985 --> 00:47:52,753
shelter? Can we get you into

1427
00:47:52,753 --> 00:47:54,689
behavioral health? Can we get

1428
00:47:54,689 --> 00:47:56,900
you any kind of treatment today?

1429
00:47:56,900 --> 00:47:57,992
Then that clears that call off

1430
00:47:57,992 --> 00:47:59,327
of their plate. Pd didn't

1431
00:47:59,327 --> 00:48:00,528
respond. Ambulances and fire

1432
00:48:00,528 --> 00:48:02,230
trucks didn't respond. That's

1433
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:03,698
the whole purpose of

1434
00:48:03,698 --> 00:48:05,966
alternative response is to not

1435
00:48:05,966 --> 00:48:08,435
have these units respond. We're

1436
00:48:08,435 --> 00:48:10,204
looking at a budget. It's it's

1437
00:48:10,204 --> 00:48:14,175
it's a, it's, it's not only a

1438
00:48:14,175 --> 00:48:15,910
cost savings, but it's, it's a

1439
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:17,345
force multiplier for police and

1440
00:48:17,345 --> 00:48:19,345
fire.

1441
00:48:19,881 --> 00:48:21,815
>> Absolutely, absolutely. Okay.

1442
00:48:21,815 --> 00:48:24,218
Thanks, Brian. Chief, did you

1443
00:48:24,218 --> 00:48:26,821
want to add something to this?

1444
00:48:26,821 --> 00:48:28,856
>> Yeah. I think that Brian

1445
00:48:28,856 --> 00:48:31,920
sheds a light on a lot of good

1446
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,261
things. I think what we are

1447
00:48:33,261 --> 00:48:35,620
stuck with as a city is the 24

1448
00:48:35,620 --> 00:48:36,331
over seven response that's

1449
00:48:36,331 --> 00:48:37,899
needed to address these calls,

1450
00:48:37,899 --> 00:48:39,701
like you addressed the other

1451
00:48:39,701 --> 00:48:41,169
day, holidays and weekends,

1452
00:48:41,169 --> 00:48:42,903
nights, the fire department is

1453
00:48:42,903 --> 00:48:44,672
there and in place and has the

1454
00:48:44,672 --> 00:48:46,407
backbone infrastructure to

1455
00:48:46,407 --> 00:48:47,608
answer these calls. And I think

1456
00:48:47,608 --> 00:48:48,809
the other thing that we often

1457
00:48:48,809 --> 00:48:51,579
forget is there's no shortage

1458
00:48:51,579 --> 00:48:53,748
of calls. So the calls that

1459
00:48:53,748 --> 00:48:55,283
can't be answered or do

1460
00:48:55,283 --> 00:48:56,951
increase due to being medical

1461
00:48:56,951 --> 00:48:59,152
in nature, which a lot of them

1462
00:48:59,152 --> 00:49:01,689
do. And we can get those

1463
00:49:01,689 --> 00:49:02,723
numbers for you, but they're,

1464
00:49:02,723 --> 00:49:04,492
they're the ones that the fire

1465
00:49:04,492 --> 00:49:06,728
department is going to end up

1466
00:49:06,728 --> 00:49:08,930
answering. Last year, we

1467
00:49:08,930 --> 00:49:11,298
eliminated about 8000 calls out

1468
00:49:11,298 --> 00:49:14,898
of the fire system. So and

1469
00:49:15,269 --> 00:49:16,636
that's not all with our our

1470
00:49:16,636 --> 00:49:18,539
alternate response, but that's

1471
00:49:18,539 --> 00:49:19,974
us working with dispatch,

1472
00:49:19,974 --> 00:49:21,742
working with dcr, working with

1473
00:49:21,742 --> 00:49:23,678
all the partners that we have

1474
00:49:23,678 --> 00:49:25,613
to reduce the calls to make us

1475
00:49:25,613 --> 00:49:28,613
more available. So Brian's work

1476
00:49:29,116 --> 00:49:31,185
that he does with alt response

1477
00:49:31,185 --> 00:49:32,453
does help both police and fire.

1478
00:49:32,453 --> 00:49:33,755
There is that medical component

1479
00:49:33,755 --> 00:49:34,855
that's going to come back

1480
00:49:34,855 --> 00:49:36,557
around, and that's what we're

1481
00:49:36,557 --> 00:49:38,759
there for. That's why our units

1482
00:49:38,759 --> 00:49:40,695
have the paramedics on the

1483
00:49:40,695 --> 00:49:42,430
units. If a call does increase,

1484
00:49:42,430 --> 00:49:46,300
you have the continuity of care

1485
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,169
from a no need medical aid to

1486
00:49:48,169 --> 00:49:49,470
something that turns for the

1487
00:49:49,470 --> 00:49:50,638
worse. You have a paramedic

1488
00:49:50,638 --> 00:49:51,773
there that can take them all

1489
00:49:51,773 --> 00:49:54,773
the way to the hospital.

1490
00:49:54,942 --> 00:49:57,111
>> So. Okay, thank you chief

1491
00:49:57,111 --> 00:49:58,946
and, and I think, I think we

1492
00:49:58,946 --> 00:50:00,714
all appreciate the work that

1493
00:50:00,714 --> 00:50:03,184
that you're all doing to, to

1494
00:50:03,184 --> 00:50:04,985
try to, to calibrate the right

1495
00:50:04,985 --> 00:50:07,355
response with the right people

1496
00:50:07,355 --> 00:50:08,555
and taking the to them if they

1497
00:50:08,555 --> 00:50:11,580
need transport to the right

1498
00:50:11,580 --> 00:50:12,793
place and, and trying to do

1499
00:50:12,793 --> 00:50:13,861
that as effectively and as

1500
00:50:13,861 --> 00:50:15,630
efficiently as possible. And i

1501
00:50:15,630 --> 00:50:16,931
think, as you know, as Brian

1502
00:50:16,931 --> 00:50:19,100
said, to the extent that to the

1503
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:20,501
extent that we can divert calls

1504
00:50:20,501 --> 00:50:22,636
from the fire department or the

1505
00:50:22,636 --> 00:50:23,771
police department to an

1506
00:50:23,771 --> 00:50:26,171
appropriate level of response,

1507
00:50:26,974 --> 00:50:29,110
but doesn't require your the

1508
00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:30,912
police response that it gives

1509
00:50:30,912 --> 00:50:32,380
us a chance to you have the

1510
00:50:32,380 --> 00:50:34,182
opportunity to do other things,

1511
00:50:34,182 --> 00:50:35,683
as do the police. And there's

1512
00:50:35,683 --> 00:50:37,552
no shortage, as you know better

1513
00:50:37,552 --> 00:50:40,688
than I, of things that you need

1514
00:50:40,688 --> 00:50:42,890
need to do. So thanks for

1515
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:43,224
working. I agree with my

1516
00:50:43,224 --> 00:50:44,425
colleagues. Thank you very much

1517
00:50:44,425 --> 00:50:46,460
for all the improvements you've

1518
00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:48,629
made. I want to thank the

1519
00:50:48,629 --> 00:50:50,397
auditor for for giving us a

1520
00:50:50,397 --> 00:50:52,266
window onto this, which I think

1521
00:50:52,266 --> 00:50:55,866
has been very helpful. I'll let

1522
00:50:56,571 --> 00:50:59,440
you sit down and there's a lot

1523
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,909
to chew on here. But but my

1524
00:51:01,909 --> 00:51:04,770
thought is that maybe in the

1525
00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:05,479
context of the homeless audit,

1526
00:51:05,479 --> 00:51:08,349
I don't know if this will fit

1527
00:51:08,349 --> 00:51:10,184
in the scope, but but exploring

1528
00:51:10,184 --> 00:51:11,385
more of this issue of the

1529
00:51:11,385 --> 00:51:13,454
appropriate level of response

1530
00:51:13,454 --> 00:51:16,290
with the right people getting,

1531
00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:18,580
getting the, the person

1532
00:51:18,580 --> 00:51:19,493
addressed to the right place,

1533
00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:21,662
maybe, maybe that's something

1534
00:51:21,662 --> 00:51:23,864
that we should look at in the

1535
00:51:23,864 --> 00:51:24,932
in the course of that, that

1536
00:51:24,932 --> 00:51:26,334
audit.

1537
00:51:26,334 --> 00:51:28,169
>> Yeah. We're getting ready to

1538
00:51:28,169 --> 00:51:30,206
release the next homeless audit

1539
00:51:30,206 --> 00:51:32,440
next month. Okay. It's going to

1540
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,275
be focused more on the shelters,

1541
00:51:34,275 --> 00:51:36,760
but I believe the next one on

1542
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:37,110
our work plan is

1543
00:51:37,110 --> 00:51:39,110
inter-departmental coordination.

1544
00:51:39,714 --> 00:51:41,815
So I think that would be a good

1545
00:51:41,815 --> 00:51:44,815
place to, to explore that.

1546
00:51:45,786 --> 00:51:47,321
>> Okay. Thank thank you. If oh

1547
00:51:47,321 --> 00:51:50,321
mayor pro tem gara yeah.

1548
00:51:50,524 --> 00:51:51,558
>> Thank you. And then on the

1549
00:51:51,558 --> 00:51:53,600
inter-departmental coordination,

1550
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,561
you read my mind. I'd punched

1551
00:51:54,561 --> 00:51:56,300
up right there because I, I

1552
00:51:56,300 --> 00:51:59,100
want to want to thank Captain

1553
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:00,267
Moore and Brian Pedro for

1554
00:52:00,267 --> 00:52:02,736
coming to a meeting that we

1555
00:52:02,736 --> 00:52:04,905
pulled together on the pathways

1556
00:52:04,905 --> 00:52:06,607
for cares court here. And so I

1557
00:52:06,607 --> 00:52:07,842
think what I'd like to make

1558
00:52:07,842 --> 00:52:09,243
sure that when we're looking at

1559
00:52:09,243 --> 00:52:10,645
inter-departmental coordination,

1560
00:52:10,645 --> 00:52:13,645
one of the challenges we've

1561
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:18,518
seen in to address the the, the

1562
00:52:18,518 --> 00:52:21,422
cyclical part of, of repeat and

1563
00:52:21,422 --> 00:52:22,923
frequent utilizers has been the

1564
00:52:22,923 --> 00:52:24,958
ability for us to transfer

1565
00:52:24,958 --> 00:52:27,958
information from, from the fire

1566
00:52:28,963 --> 00:52:30,764
department, from dcrshis and

1567
00:52:30,764 --> 00:52:33,668
also the other agencies that

1568
00:52:33,668 --> 00:52:36,680
are contacting individuals so

1569
00:52:36,137 --> 00:52:37,605
that when we are going to the

1570
00:52:37,605 --> 00:52:40,174
Public Guardian that they have

1571
00:52:40,174 --> 00:52:43,174
all of the information because

1572
00:52:43,344 --> 00:52:45,446
what sometimes is not available.

1573
00:52:45,446 --> 00:52:47,748
And and we tease this out with

1574
00:52:47,748 --> 00:52:49,950
our city attorney's office is

1575
00:52:49,950 --> 00:52:52,950
that an individual might have

1576
00:52:53,870 --> 00:52:54,889
been at the er 5 or 6 times

1577
00:52:54,889 --> 00:52:57,889
with at the crisis receiving

1578
00:52:57,891 --> 00:52:59,993
center in and out of, say, the

1579
00:52:59,993 --> 00:53:01,997
county jail five times. But not

1580
00:53:01,997 --> 00:53:03,630
all of that is in front of the

1581
00:53:03,630 --> 00:53:04,998
public guardian. When they go

1582
00:53:04,998 --> 00:53:07,201
be before the judge or

1583
00:53:07,201 --> 00:53:08,235
magistrate. And so the the real

1584
00:53:08,235 --> 00:53:10,470
information about how to

1585
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:12,173
provide the best outcome for

1586
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:13,674
the individual isn't, isn't

1587
00:53:13,674 --> 00:53:15,509
present. So I think that's an

1588
00:53:15,509 --> 00:53:17,111
important piece on the

1589
00:53:17,111 --> 00:53:19,130
dysfunction in communication.

1590
00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:20,848
So that a person who truly

1591
00:53:20,848 --> 00:53:22,848
needs either guardianship,

1592
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:24,117
receivership, or involuntary

1593
00:53:24,117 --> 00:53:26,287
conservatorship, you have all

1594
00:53:26,287 --> 00:53:28,422
of the information that is

1595
00:53:28,422 --> 00:53:29,423
present and that unfortunately,

1596
00:53:29,423 --> 00:53:31,459
it seems to be that there's

1597
00:53:31,459 --> 00:53:33,360
still a data gap. So when you

1598
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,262
get to that point, I'd like to

1599
00:53:35,262 --> 00:53:37,298
make sure that that is part of,

1600
00:53:37,298 --> 00:53:38,799
of how do we how do we do

1601
00:53:38,799 --> 00:53:41,199
process improvement for that,

1602
00:53:42,102 --> 00:53:44,305
for the data getting to once it

1603
00:53:44,305 --> 00:53:46,373
gets out of our agency into,

1604
00:53:46,373 --> 00:53:48,575
say, the county or the county

1605
00:53:48,575 --> 00:53:50,845
council or public guardian. So

1606
00:53:50,845 --> 00:53:52,845
thank you, chair.

1607
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,820
>> Thank you. And thank you for

1608
00:53:55,820 --> 00:53:56,917
you very much. We have a motion

1609
00:53:56,917 --> 00:53:58,685
by Mayor Pro Tem Guerra,

1610
00:53:58,685 --> 00:54:01,850
seconded by Vice Mayor

1611
00:54:01,221 --> 00:54:02,590
Telemontes, to approve the

1612
00:54:02,590 --> 00:54:04,910
audit and and send it forward

1613
00:54:04,910 --> 00:54:05,792
to the full council. Any

1614
00:54:05,792 --> 00:54:06,894
further comments or questions?

1615
00:54:06,894 --> 00:54:08,562
If not, all those in favor

1616
00:54:08,562 --> 00:54:09,863
signify by saying aye. Aye.

1617
00:54:09,863 --> 00:54:11,632
Opposed say no. And any

1618
00:54:11,632 --> 00:54:13,330
abstentions? Hearing none, the

1619
00:54:13,330 --> 00:54:15,433
motion carries. Thanks very

1620
00:54:17,404 --> 00:54:20,941
much. We're on to our next

1621
00:54:20,941 --> 00:54:23,444
presentation. So let me let's

1622
00:54:23,444 --> 00:54:26,460
let me get back to my agenda.

1623
00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:27,147
It's the 2025 audit of city

1624
00:54:27,147 --> 00:54:29,147
employees workforce diversity

1625
00:54:30,751 --> 00:54:32,486
and salary trends. We'll turn

1626
00:54:32,486 --> 00:54:35,890
it over to you for.

1627
00:54:35,890 --> 00:54:37,491
>> Yes. All right. Well now

1628
00:54:37,491 --> 00:54:38,692
good afternoon, Chair Dickinson

1629
00:54:38,692 --> 00:54:40,728
and members of the Budget and

1630
00:54:40,728 --> 00:54:43,297
Audit Committee. Again, I'm the

1631
00:54:43,297 --> 00:54:45,399
city auditor. And with me is

1632
00:54:45,399 --> 00:54:46,900
Chevelle Jackson and who is

1633
00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:48,900
primarily responsible for

1634
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:50,537
conducting this audit. And the

1635
00:54:50,537 --> 00:54:52,673
recommendation before you is to

1636
00:54:52,673 --> 00:54:54,407
accept the City Auditor's 2025

1637
00:54:54,407 --> 00:54:56,807
audit of city employees,

1638
00:54:57,110 --> 00:54:58,745
workforce diversity and salary

1639
00:54:58,745 --> 00:55:02,345
trends, and forward to the City

1640
00:55:03,417 --> 00:55:04,885
Council for final approval. All

1641
00:55:04,885 --> 00:55:06,686
right, so our office has been

1642
00:55:06,686 --> 00:55:08,655
conducting employee diversity

1643
00:55:08,655 --> 00:55:10,457
assessments since 2016, when

1644
00:55:10,457 --> 00:55:12,793
the City Council first directed

1645
00:55:12,793 --> 00:55:14,228
the city auditor to analyze

1646
00:55:14,228 --> 00:55:16,196
employee diversity and compare

1647
00:55:16,196 --> 00:55:18,980
the results to the demographics

1648
00:55:18,980 --> 00:55:21,980
of City of Sacramento residents.

1649
00:55:21,335 --> 00:55:23,700
This report contains chapters

1650
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:24,972
and analyzes city employee

1651
00:55:24,972 --> 00:55:27,972
gender and ethnic diversity as

1652
00:55:28,875 --> 00:55:31,875
of JULY 1st, 2025, and employee

1653
00:55:31,878 --> 00:55:34,278
diversity trends from 2016 to

1654
00:55:36,917 --> 00:55:38,252
2025. The audit also has a

1655
00:55:38,252 --> 00:55:38,986
detailed section on the

1656
00:55:38,986 --> 00:55:40,821
improvements the Human

1657
00:55:40,821 --> 00:55:42,189
Resources Department has made

1658
00:55:42,189 --> 00:55:44,589
relating to diversity, equity,

1659
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:46,760
and inclusion since the last

1660
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,620
audit, the Office of Diversity

1661
00:55:49,620 --> 00:55:50,931
and Equity integrated into the

1662
00:55:50,931 --> 00:55:53,670
Human Resources Department and

1663
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:54,702
continue to continues to focus

1664
00:55:54,702 --> 00:55:56,235
on building a representative

1665
00:55:56,235 --> 00:55:58,105
and inclusive city of

1666
00:55:58,105 --> 00:55:59,506
Sacramento. This slide

1667
00:55:59,506 --> 00:56:00,641
highlights just a few of the

1668
00:56:00,641 --> 00:56:02,375
improvements identified by the

1669
00:56:02,375 --> 00:56:04,375
Human Resources Department.

1670
00:56:05,245 --> 00:56:08,245
Since our last assessment in

1671
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:12,519
2021, the report has a lot more.

1672
00:56:12,519 --> 00:56:14,288
And then just a reminder that

1673
00:56:14,288 --> 00:56:15,622
we did create a city of

1674
00:56:15,622 --> 00:56:18,220
Sacramento Gender and Ethnic

1675
00:56:18,192 --> 00:56:19,992
Diversity dashboard to allow

1676
00:56:19,992 --> 00:56:22,262
users to analyze city employee

1677
00:56:22,262 --> 00:56:24,732
gender and ethnic diversity of

1678
00:56:24,732 --> 00:56:27,868
the data on their own. We have

1679
00:56:27,868 --> 00:56:30,268
updated the dashboard for 2025,

1680
00:56:31,871 --> 00:56:34,410
and this dashboard is updated

1681
00:56:34,410 --> 00:56:36,441
annually. And again, just

1682
00:56:36,944 --> 00:56:39,179
analyzes more, allows you to

1683
00:56:39,179 --> 00:56:41,148
analyze the data in more ways

1684
00:56:41,148 --> 00:56:45,252
than just how we have it in the

1685
00:56:45,252 --> 00:56:46,420
report. First, we want to cover

1686
00:56:46,420 --> 00:56:48,880
the gender and ethnic diversity

1687
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:49,923
of city residents, which is

1688
00:56:49,923 --> 00:56:52,125
what we use to compare the

1689
00:56:52,125 --> 00:56:54,270
diversity of city employees. So

1690
00:56:54,270 --> 00:56:55,662
as a chart on the left shows,

1691
00:56:55,662 --> 00:56:57,831
the three most populous ethnic

1692
00:56:57,831 --> 00:57:01,431
and racial groups in the city

1693
00:57:01,434 --> 00:57:04,434
are white, at 28% Hispanic or

1694
00:57:05,372 --> 00:57:07,241
Latino at 29%, and Asian at 19.

1695
00:57:07,241 --> 00:57:08,708
And then the chart on the right

1696
00:57:08,708 --> 00:57:11,177
shows the gender composition of

1697
00:57:11,177 --> 00:57:13,446
city residents. There are

1698
00:57:13,446 --> 00:57:15,846
slightly more females at 51%

1699
00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:20,220
than males 49, and the city of

1700
00:57:20,220 --> 00:57:21,622
Sacramento has also updated

1701
00:57:21,622 --> 00:57:24,124
Icaps to allow city employees

1702
00:57:24,124 --> 00:57:26,360
to update a variety of personal

1703
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,620
details, such as gender

1704
00:57:28,620 --> 00:57:30,620
identity, sexual orientation

1705
00:57:31,331 --> 00:57:33,400
and more. It is a relatively

1706
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,269
newer option, so we only had

1707
00:57:35,269 --> 00:57:37,400
about 100 city employees report

1708
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,239
this information this time

1709
00:57:39,239 --> 00:57:41,800
around, so we did not include

1710
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,209
it in our analysis for this

1711
00:57:43,209 --> 00:57:44,378
year. But hopefully next time

1712
00:57:44,378 --> 00:57:47,978
around we'll have a lot more

1713
00:57:49,650 --> 00:57:51,852
data that we can report on.

1714
00:57:51,852 --> 00:57:53,287
This slide shows the overall

1715
00:57:53,287 --> 00:57:55,880
gender composition of city

1716
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,880
employees by department

1717
00:57:57,958 --> 00:57:59,792
compared to city residents. The

1718
00:57:59,792 --> 00:58:02,362
red box shows the gender

1719
00:58:02,362 --> 00:58:04,762
composition of city employees

1720
00:58:05,866 --> 00:58:07,667
overall is at 36% female and

1721
00:58:07,667 --> 00:58:09,836
64% male. And then, as you can

1722
00:58:09,836 --> 00:58:11,237
see, highlighted in yellow.

1723
00:58:11,237 --> 00:58:13,472
Mayor and council is closest to

1724
00:58:13,472 --> 00:58:15,872
the composition of city

1725
00:58:17,110 --> 00:58:19,510
residents at 51% female and 49%

1726
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:21,714
male. And then if you are

1727
00:58:21,714 --> 00:58:23,884
interested, the audit report

1728
00:58:23,884 --> 00:58:25,285
does contain additional gender

1729
00:58:25,285 --> 00:58:27,120
analysis for management and

1730
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,989
non-management employees. And

1731
00:58:28,989 --> 00:58:30,824
then again, you can analyze

1732
00:58:30,824 --> 00:58:33,224
more information on the

1733
00:58:35,429 --> 00:58:36,596
dashboard. And this chart

1734
00:58:36,596 --> 00:58:38,632
analyzes the demographics of

1735
00:58:38,632 --> 00:58:41,868
full time and part time city

1736
00:58:41,868 --> 00:58:44,868
employees by ethnicity or race

1737
00:58:45,138 --> 00:58:47,240
and gender. As of JULY 1st,

1738
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,750
2025. So you can see on the

1739
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:50,844
chart, about 31% of the

1740
00:58:50,844 --> 00:58:53,213
employees that identify as

1741
00:58:53,213 --> 00:58:55,549
white are female, and employees

1742
00:58:55,549 --> 00:58:57,384
that identify as two or more

1743
00:58:57,384 --> 00:59:00,220
races. Races are the most

1744
00:59:00,220 --> 00:59:03,220
evenly split by gender, with

1745
00:59:04,558 --> 00:59:06,693
48% female and 52% male, and

1746
00:59:06,693 --> 00:59:09,693
that's the closest to city

1747
00:59:10,631 --> 00:59:12,199
residents. This table analyzes

1748
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:15,350
gender composition of full time

1749
00:59:15,350 --> 00:59:17,837
and part time city employees by

1750
00:59:17,837 --> 00:59:20,306
department. As of JULY 1st,

1751
00:59:20,306 --> 00:59:22,543
2016 two, 2025. So there's a

1752
00:59:22,543 --> 00:59:23,610
lot of data, but just

1753
00:59:23,610 --> 00:59:26,100
highlighting one of the

1754
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:27,614
departments you can see there

1755
00:59:27,614 --> 00:59:29,383
has some departments. There has

1756
00:59:29,383 --> 00:59:31,785
not been much change in those

1757
00:59:31,785 --> 00:59:34,200
ten years, and in others there

1758
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,589
has been slight changes. So

1759
00:59:35,589 --> 00:59:37,391
departments with more staff,

1760
00:59:37,391 --> 00:59:40,861
such as the fire department. It

1761
00:59:40,861 --> 00:59:44,461
is kind of harder to see

1762
00:59:45,965 --> 00:59:47,768
changes very quickly. This

1763
00:59:47,768 --> 00:59:49,302
chart shows the gender

1764
00:59:49,302 --> 00:59:51,371
composition of legacy staff,

1765
00:59:51,371 --> 00:59:53,540
which we identify in this

1766
00:59:53,540 --> 00:59:56,420
report as those that were hired

1767
00:59:56,420 --> 00:59:57,844
prior to JULY 1st, 2024,

1768
00:59:57,844 --> 00:59:59,646
compared to the newly hired

1769
00:59:59,646 --> 01:00:02,460
employees, which were those

1770
01:00:02,549 --> 01:00:04,350
hired after JULY 1st, 2024. So

1771
01:00:04,350 --> 01:00:06,820
the chart on the left shows the

1772
01:00:06,820 --> 01:00:09,820
gender composition of all newly

1773
01:00:10,457 --> 01:00:12,225
hired staff. There were 953

1774
01:00:12,225 --> 01:00:14,625
newly hired employees. During

1775
01:00:15,529 --> 01:00:17,929
fiscal year 2025. 52% of them

1776
01:00:18,698 --> 01:00:20,801
were male and 48% were female,

1777
01:00:20,801 --> 01:00:22,635
which is really close to the

1778
01:00:22,635 --> 01:00:24,271
gender composition of city

1779
01:00:24,271 --> 01:00:26,272
residents. When you compare

1780
01:00:26,272 --> 01:00:27,974
that to the legacy staff for

1781
01:00:27,974 --> 01:00:29,509
all staff, and then the chart

1782
01:00:29,509 --> 01:00:31,311
on the right shows the gender

1783
01:00:31,311 --> 01:00:32,479
composition of newly hired

1784
01:00:32,479 --> 01:00:34,181
management staff. During that

1785
01:00:34,181 --> 01:00:37,116
same time period, there were

1786
01:00:37,116 --> 01:00:39,516
about 20 newly hired management

1787
01:00:39,653 --> 01:00:42,530
staff during fiscal year 2025,

1788
01:00:43,256 --> 01:00:46,256
and 55% of them were male, 45%

1789
01:00:47,961 --> 01:00:49,696
female. This chart identifies

1790
01:00:49,696 --> 01:00:50,796
the ethnic and racial

1791
01:00:50,796 --> 01:00:52,632
composition of full time and

1792
01:00:52,632 --> 01:00:54,701
part time employees by

1793
01:00:54,701 --> 01:00:56,937
department, compared to that of

1794
01:00:56,937 --> 01:00:59,710
city residents. And as you can

1795
01:00:59,710 --> 01:01:01,541
see, there is a deviation from

1796
01:01:01,541 --> 01:01:03,343
the city population and many of

1797
01:01:03,343 --> 01:01:06,343
the ethnic and racial groups

1798
01:01:06,646 --> 01:01:10,617
overall in the city and in some

1799
01:01:10,617 --> 01:01:12,518
departments. This chart shows

1800
01:01:12,518 --> 01:01:14,521
the percentage point difference

1801
01:01:14,521 --> 01:01:16,389
of the ethnicities and races of

1802
01:01:16,389 --> 01:01:18,458
full time and part time city

1803
01:01:18,458 --> 01:01:20,994
employees in each department in

1804
01:01:20,994 --> 01:01:22,863
relation to that of the City of

1805
01:01:22,863 --> 01:01:24,264
Sacramento residents. So the

1806
01:01:24,264 --> 01:01:25,431
scale

1807
01:01:25,431 --> 01:01:27,433
>> At the bottom shows the

1808
01:01:27,433 --> 01:01:29,669
extent difference. I do want to

1809
01:01:29,669 --> 01:01:31,505
note that the color scale just

1810
01:01:31,505 --> 01:01:33,272
reflects the direction and size

1811
01:01:33,272 --> 01:01:35,740
of the percentage point

1812
01:01:35,740 --> 01:01:36,509
difference. The use of red and

1813
01:01:36,509 --> 01:01:38,211
green doesn't really convey

1814
01:01:38,211 --> 01:01:42,411
that like one is a positive or

1815
01:01:44,316 --> 01:01:46,151
one is a. This chart shows the

1816
01:01:46,151 --> 01:01:47,220
trend of the ethnic and racial

1817
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:49,550
composition of all city

1818
01:01:49,550 --> 01:01:50,857
employees for the past ten

1819
01:01:50,857 --> 01:01:52,692
years. So as you can see, the

1820
01:01:52,692 --> 01:01:55,161
white ethnic group has been the

1821
01:01:55,161 --> 01:01:57,330
largest each year, but it has

1822
01:01:57,330 --> 01:01:59,199
been trending downwards, while

1823
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:01,301
Hispanic or Latino has been

1824
01:02:01,301 --> 01:02:03,103
trending upwards over the years.

1825
01:02:03,103 --> 01:02:05,171
And then there are other groups,

1826
01:02:05,171 --> 01:02:08,308
such as Asian and two or more

1827
01:02:08,308 --> 01:02:11,908
that also appear to be trending

1828
01:02:12,111 --> 01:02:13,880
up a little bit. This chart

1829
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,115
shows the gender composition,

1830
01:02:16,115 --> 01:02:18,218
again, of the legacy staff

1831
01:02:18,218 --> 01:02:20,618
compared to newly hired

1832
01:02:21,521 --> 01:02:23,690
employees. The left chart shows

1833
01:02:23,690 --> 01:02:26,920
all newly hired employees, and

1834
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,695
as I mentioned, there were 953

1835
01:02:28,695 --> 01:02:31,950
during fiscal year 2025. And

1836
01:02:31,196 --> 01:02:33,333
you can see of the newly hired

1837
01:02:33,333 --> 01:02:35,535
employees, their gender and

1838
01:02:35,535 --> 01:02:37,737
ethnic diversity is closer to

1839
01:02:37,737 --> 01:02:39,539
that of city residents. And

1840
01:02:39,539 --> 01:02:42,142
then the chart on the right is

1841
01:02:42,142 --> 01:02:44,210
similar data for the 20 new

1842
01:02:44,210 --> 01:02:46,610
management employees that were

1843
01:02:51,317 --> 01:02:52,452
hired in 2025. We'll go into a

1844
01:02:52,452 --> 01:02:54,187
little bit of the salary

1845
01:02:54,187 --> 01:02:56,550
analysis that we also did. The

1846
01:02:56,550 --> 01:02:57,490
chart shows the average

1847
01:02:57,490 --> 01:03:00,490
salaries of full time employees

1848
01:03:01,610 --> 01:03:03,296
by gender and ethnicity for

1849
01:03:03,296 --> 01:03:04,631
2025, as shown on the chart.

1850
01:03:04,631 --> 01:03:06,766
Male employees, on average,

1851
01:03:06,766 --> 01:03:09,766
have a higher salary than

1852
01:03:09,769 --> 01:03:11,871
female employees in all ethnic

1853
01:03:11,871 --> 01:03:14,740
groups. The lighter blue column

1854
01:03:14,740 --> 01:03:16,175
is always higher, pretty much

1855
01:03:16,175 --> 01:03:17,711
than the darker blue column.

1856
01:03:17,711 --> 01:03:19,779
And in addition, those that

1857
01:03:19,779 --> 01:03:21,247
identify as Black or African

1858
01:03:21,247 --> 01:03:24,847
American did tend to have a

1859
01:03:26,586 --> 01:03:28,870
lower average salary. This

1860
01:03:28,870 --> 01:03:30,223
chart shows the average salary

1861
01:03:30,223 --> 01:03:32,725
of full time city employees by

1862
01:03:32,725 --> 01:03:34,661
gender for the last ten years.

1863
01:03:34,661 --> 01:03:37,130
And as you can see there, there

1864
01:03:37,130 --> 01:03:39,499
is still a gap between the two

1865
01:03:39,499 --> 01:03:41,401
genders. But in 2016, the

1866
01:03:41,401 --> 01:03:43,801
average salary for female

1867
01:03:44,304 --> 01:03:46,704
employees was 84.5% of the

1868
01:03:47,107 --> 01:03:49,342
average salary of male city

1869
01:03:49,342 --> 01:03:51,342
employees. And 2025, it

1870
01:03:55,414 --> 01:03:57,814
improves slightly to 85.6%. And

1871
01:03:57,951 --> 01:03:59,819
then this chart shows a similar

1872
01:03:59,819 --> 01:04:02,219
analysis for only the

1873
01:04:02,622 --> 01:04:04,424
management employees. In 2016,

1874
01:04:04,424 --> 01:04:06,959
the average salary of female

1875
01:04:06,959 --> 01:04:09,161
employees was 84.4% of the

1876
01:04:09,161 --> 01:04:11,561
average salary of male

1877
01:04:12,332 --> 01:04:15,332
employees. And by 2025, it did

1878
01:04:17,804 --> 01:04:19,238
increase to 86.6%. And then

1879
01:04:19,238 --> 01:04:21,341
finally, this chart is similar

1880
01:04:21,341 --> 01:04:23,876
to the last two charts, but

1881
01:04:23,876 --> 01:04:25,876
analyzes all employees,

1882
01:04:26,450 --> 01:04:27,113
excluding part time and sworn

1883
01:04:27,113 --> 01:04:29,515
employees in the police and

1884
01:04:29,515 --> 01:04:33,115
fire department. And when we do

1885
01:04:33,952 --> 01:04:36,550
that, you can see that the the

1886
01:04:36,550 --> 01:04:38,324
pay gap narrows significantly.

1887
01:04:38,324 --> 01:04:41,227
So in 2016, the average salary

1888
01:04:41,227 --> 01:04:44,300
for full time non-sworn female

1889
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:46,299
employees was 90.1% of the

1890
01:04:46,299 --> 01:04:48,340
average salary of full time

1891
01:04:48,340 --> 01:04:50,434
non-sworn male employees. And

1892
01:04:51,137 --> 01:04:54,137
by 2025, the gap was narrowed

1893
01:04:57,677 --> 01:04:58,945
to 97.2%. And then this table

1894
01:04:58,945 --> 01:05:00,946
identifies the average salaries

1895
01:05:00,946 --> 01:05:02,415
of full time employees by

1896
01:05:02,415 --> 01:05:04,415
ethnicity, ethnic, racial

1897
01:05:04,483 --> 01:05:06,719
groups, and gender, and the

1898
01:05:06,719 --> 01:05:09,289
ratio of earnings relative to

1899
01:05:09,289 --> 01:05:11,357
white males, which is the

1900
01:05:11,357 --> 01:05:13,926
largest group in the city. And

1901
01:05:13,926 --> 01:05:15,594
as you can see, male groups did

1902
01:05:15,594 --> 01:05:17,162
tend to be higher on the list,

1903
01:05:17,162 --> 01:05:20,762
and female groups tended to be

1904
01:05:22,201 --> 01:05:24,370
more on the bottom. We also did

1905
01:05:24,370 --> 01:05:26,505
an analysis of each department

1906
01:05:26,505 --> 01:05:29,505
over time that contains gender,

1907
01:05:29,742 --> 01:05:31,944
ethnic and racial or ethnic and

1908
01:05:31,944 --> 01:05:33,413
racial and salary information.

1909
01:05:33,413 --> 01:05:34,447
The analysis for each

1910
01:05:34,447 --> 01:05:36,149
department can be found in

1911
01:05:36,149 --> 01:05:38,170
chapter six of the report. And

1912
01:05:38,170 --> 01:05:40,417
again, our online dashboard

1913
01:05:40,486 --> 01:05:42,755
allows anyone to analyze all

1914
01:05:42,755 --> 01:05:45,991
this data in any particular way

1915
01:05:45,991 --> 01:05:47,600
that they would like. This

1916
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,728
concludes my presentation, but

1917
01:05:48,728 --> 01:05:50,630
I'm going to hand it over to

1918
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:52,310
the hr department, who also did

1919
01:05:52,310 --> 01:05:54,233
want to provide some additional

1920
01:05:54,233 --> 01:05:54,601
information on their efforts.

1921
01:05:54,601 --> 01:05:56,601
>> Okay.

1922
01:06:01,774 --> 01:06:02,890
>> Thank you. Good afternoon.

1923
01:06:02,890 --> 01:06:03,343
>> Hi.

1924
01:06:03,343 --> 01:06:04,676
>> Good afternoon. Budget and

1925
01:06:04,676 --> 01:06:05,778
audit committee members. I'm

1926
01:06:05,778 --> 01:06:08,178
Samantha Hardy, the interim

1927
01:06:08,247 --> 01:06:09,715
human resources director. Human

1928
01:06:09,715 --> 01:06:11,117
resources appreciates the

1929
01:06:11,117 --> 01:06:12,251
opportunity to highlight our

1930
01:06:12,251 --> 01:06:14,251
initiatives supporting

1931
01:06:14,754 --> 01:06:17,154
workforce diversity, equity and

1932
01:06:17,290 --> 01:06:18,391
inclusive recruitment practices.

1933
01:06:18,391 --> 01:06:20,791
This afternoon, Diversity and

1934
01:06:20,893 --> 01:06:22,362
Equity Manager Amy Barnes will

1935
01:06:22,362 --> 01:06:24,196
provide an overview of the work

1936
01:06:24,196 --> 01:06:25,932
being led by the Office of

1937
01:06:25,932 --> 01:06:27,300
Diversity and Equity and then

1938
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:29,535
Employment Services Manager at

1939
01:06:29,535 --> 01:06:30,903
Ebony. Heaven will review hr. S

1940
01:06:30,903 --> 01:06:32,903
recruitment strategies and

1941
01:06:33,806 --> 01:06:36,206
ongoing efforts to strengthen

1942
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:38,110
outreach, access and workforce

1943
01:06:38,110 --> 01:06:39,345
representation. And so with

1944
01:06:39,345 --> 01:06:43,483
that, I will turn it over to

1945
01:06:43,483 --> 01:06:45,351
Amy.

1946
01:06:45,351 --> 01:06:46,752
>> Good afternoon.

1947
01:06:46,752 --> 01:06:47,520
>> Good afternoon. Good

1948
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,288
afternoon, members of the

1949
01:06:49,288 --> 01:06:51,157
Budget and Audit Committee and

1950
01:06:51,157 --> 01:06:53,726
those in the dais and those

1951
01:06:53,726 --> 01:06:57,326
online. Glad to be here. So

1952
01:06:57,596 --> 01:06:59,264
let's jump right in. Workforce

1953
01:06:59,264 --> 01:07:00,866
equity. This is our definition

1954
01:07:00,866 --> 01:07:02,301
of workforce equity that we

1955
01:07:02,301 --> 01:07:05,104
adapted from the city of

1956
01:07:05,104 --> 01:07:06,572
Seattle. It is a workforce that

1957
01:07:06,572 --> 01:07:08,440
is inclusive of people of color

1958
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:09,908
and other marginalized and

1959
01:07:09,908 --> 01:07:11,908
underrepresented groups. And

1960
01:07:11,944 --> 01:07:13,780
the most important piece of

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01:07:13,780 --> 01:07:15,214
this is understanding

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structural and historical

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barriers. But also we want to

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reflect through the depth and

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breadth of the organization.

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Workforce equity is very

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01:07:27,526 --> 01:07:30,526
dynamic, and while our report

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01:07:30,930 --> 01:07:32,297
definitely reflects the trends

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01:07:32,297 --> 01:07:34,670
that are encouraging, of signs

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01:07:34,670 --> 01:07:35,301
of workforce diversity and the

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01:07:35,301 --> 01:07:36,572
efforts that we are doing, we

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01:07:36,572 --> 01:07:38,738
know that this is ongoing work

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and it doesn't stop. So to meet

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our workforce equity goal, it

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01:07:42,575 --> 01:07:44,343
requires ongoing and sustained

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01:07:44,343 --> 01:07:45,678
systemic effort that commits to

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01:07:45,678 --> 01:07:47,547
engaging with staff, leadership

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01:07:47,547 --> 01:07:49,849
and shareholders throughout the

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01:07:49,849 --> 01:07:51,651
organization. So I really want

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01:07:51,651 --> 01:07:52,985
to highlight that workforce

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01:07:52,985 --> 01:07:55,221
equity is the principle and

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01:07:55,221 --> 01:07:56,688
it's a practice. It's a process

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01:07:56,688 --> 01:07:57,723
of ensuring fairness and

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01:07:57,723 --> 01:07:58,790
justice within the

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01:07:58,790 --> 01:08:00,226
organization's employment

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01:08:00,226 --> 01:08:01,327
practices, creating an

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01:08:01,327 --> 01:08:02,728
environment where all

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individuals have a genuine

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opportunity to succeed,

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contribute, challenge and

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advance, regardless of

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01:08:08,568 --> 01:08:10,568
background, lived experiences

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or identity. So the key aspects

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that you see on the slide there

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are all dynamic nonlinear, and

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they're happening

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simultaneously. Some of our

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goals and efforts are to

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eliminate disparities, fair

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access to opportunities, career

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01:08:26,452 --> 01:08:28,852
growth and advancement, fair

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01:08:29,322 --> 01:08:31,123
treatment and respect, tailored

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01:08:31,123 --> 01:08:32,892
strategies of support and

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01:08:32,892 --> 01:08:34,594
resources as well. And of

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01:08:34,594 --> 01:08:36,594
course, dismantling systemic

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01:08:37,663 --> 01:08:39,465
and procedural barriers. Our

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01:08:39,465 --> 01:08:41,267
race, gender and equity action

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01:08:41,267 --> 01:08:43,435
plan is just one of those

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01:08:43,435 --> 01:08:46,435
initiatives to help do that.

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01:08:47,406 --> 01:08:48,107
And I do to make alive and

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01:08:48,107 --> 01:08:50,107
operationalize all those

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01:08:50,643 --> 01:08:52,144
dimensions of workforce equity

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01:08:52,144 --> 01:08:54,544
collectively and citywide. So

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I'd like to thank Assistant

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01:08:56,349 --> 01:08:57,850
City Manager Laney and interim

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01:08:57,850 --> 01:08:59,618
hr Director Samantha Hardy for

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01:08:59,618 --> 01:09:01,387
their leadership and

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01:09:01,387 --> 01:09:03,189
facilitation. Leadership is

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01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:05,191
critical in this area for to

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01:09:05,191 --> 01:09:06,893
move these initiatives forward.

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01:09:06,893 --> 01:09:07,960
I'd also like to extend an

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01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,620
appreciation to former hr

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01:09:10,620 --> 01:09:11,463
Director Shelly Robinson as

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01:09:11,463 --> 01:09:14,463
well, for helping advance this

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01:09:17,236 --> 01:09:18,904
work. From 2020 to 2025,

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01:09:18,904 --> 01:09:20,500
Workforce Equity Goal was a

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01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:21,641
central focus of the race,

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01:09:21,641 --> 01:09:24,760
gender and Equity Action Plan.

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01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,544
As a plan, it facilitated

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01:09:25,544 --> 01:09:27,944
normalizing and organizing our

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01:09:28,414 --> 01:09:29,482
equity work across the city and

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01:09:29,482 --> 01:09:31,482
operationalizing racial equity

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01:09:31,618 --> 01:09:34,152
and using a shared analysis and

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01:09:34,152 --> 01:09:36,210
vocabulary, building capacity,

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01:09:36,210 --> 01:09:38,210
implementing equity tools,

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01:09:38,580 --> 01:09:40,458
partnering with others, using

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01:09:40,726 --> 01:09:42,495
data and metrics, and also

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01:09:42,495 --> 01:09:43,930
operating with a sense of

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01:09:43,930 --> 01:09:45,398
urgency as well to meet our

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01:09:45,398 --> 01:09:47,867
goal to reflect the city to

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01:09:47,867 --> 01:09:50,350
better serve the city. This is

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01:09:50,350 --> 01:09:52,905
just a brief timeline of those

2043
01:09:52,905 --> 01:09:54,573
efforts. Our journey began and

2044
01:09:54,573 --> 01:09:55,641
wanted to give you a breath of

2045
01:09:55,641 --> 01:09:57,243
this, because this journey

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01:09:57,243 --> 01:09:58,244
began in 2018 with the

2047
01:09:58,244 --> 01:10:00,179
establishment of the office,

2048
01:10:00,179 --> 01:10:02,281
but it was also the city's

2049
01:10:02,281 --> 01:10:04,500
commitment to advance workforce

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01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:05,919
diversity, not only inside the

2051
01:10:05,919 --> 01:10:07,286
organization, but external. So

2052
01:10:07,286 --> 01:10:09,555
the cohort began with the

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01:10:09,555 --> 01:10:12,555
Government Alliance on Race and

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01:10:12,624 --> 01:10:15,240
Equity in 20 1819. They're a

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01:10:15,593 --> 01:10:18,464
cohort of city leaders began to

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01:10:18,464 --> 01:10:20,733
work apply racial equity lens,

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01:10:20,733 --> 01:10:21,701
look at data and really try to

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01:10:21,701 --> 01:10:24,101
understand what was happening

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01:10:24,203 --> 01:10:25,271
in their departments. And so 14

2060
01:10:25,271 --> 01:10:26,772
outcomes and actions of the

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01:10:26,772 --> 01:10:29,772
race, gender and Equity Action

2062
01:10:29,975 --> 01:10:31,443
Plan were created in 2020. And

2063
01:10:31,443 --> 01:10:33,145
then that little thing called

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01:10:33,145 --> 01:10:34,413
Covid hit. And that's right

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01:10:34,413 --> 01:10:36,215
when we were launching the plan,

2066
01:10:36,215 --> 01:10:37,950
but we were still able to do

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01:10:37,950 --> 01:10:40,350
that through the virtual

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01:10:40,519 --> 01:10:41,987
environment. We also began to

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01:10:41,987 --> 01:10:44,924
form and support equity teams,

2070
01:10:44,924 --> 01:10:46,525
which began in 2324. And then

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01:10:46,525 --> 01:10:49,610
we also established our equity

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01:10:49,610 --> 01:10:50,496
team convening in 23 as well,

2073
01:10:50,496 --> 01:10:51,897
so that it would maintain the

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01:10:51,897 --> 01:10:54,297
ongoing work and capacity

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01:10:55,668 --> 01:10:57,269
building of our equity teams, a

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01:10:57,269 --> 01:10:58,370
central approach, which is a

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01:10:58,370 --> 01:10:59,538
national best practice of the

2078
01:10:59,538 --> 01:11:01,607
government. Alliance on Race

2079
01:11:01,607 --> 01:11:04,276
and Equity, also known as gear.

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01:11:04,276 --> 01:11:06,311
This approach is affectionately

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01:11:06,311 --> 01:11:08,213
called view is visualized,

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01:11:08,213 --> 01:11:09,314
normalized, organized and

2083
01:11:09,314 --> 01:11:10,783
operationalize. It is the

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01:11:10,783 --> 01:11:13,850
guiding framework that informs

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01:11:13,850 --> 01:11:14,954
our office and our work. It

2086
01:11:14,954 --> 01:11:17,890
shapes strategy, it shapes our

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01:11:17,890 --> 01:11:18,357
efforts and capacity building.

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01:11:18,357 --> 01:11:19,725
It's important that we start

2089
01:11:19,725 --> 01:11:21,827
off with visualizing, because

2090
01:11:21,827 --> 01:11:22,928
it's important to see and

2091
01:11:22,928 --> 01:11:24,430
understand. What does it feel

2092
01:11:24,430 --> 01:11:25,731
like to have a Sacramento that

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01:11:25,731 --> 01:11:28,131
looks and reflects everyone,

2094
01:11:28,267 --> 01:11:29,502
but also works for everyone?

2095
01:11:29,502 --> 01:11:31,170
Normalizing racial equity and

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01:11:31,170 --> 01:11:32,571
equity as a key value in our

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01:11:32,571 --> 01:11:34,773
decision making and creating

2098
01:11:34,773 --> 01:11:36,542
shared understanding, and then

2099
01:11:36,542 --> 01:11:38,542
organizing building staff

2100
01:11:38,677 --> 01:11:39,812
capacity and collaboration

2101
01:11:39,812 --> 01:11:41,747
across departments to break

2102
01:11:41,747 --> 01:11:43,782
down silos in order to make

2103
01:11:43,782 --> 01:11:45,251
sure that this work takes root.

2104
01:11:45,251 --> 01:11:47,190
And then operationalizing it is

2105
01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:49,188
putting into action for

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01:11:49,188 --> 01:11:51,188
decision making, analysis,

2107
01:11:53,492 --> 01:11:55,492
measurement, and accountability.

2108
01:11:57,129 --> 01:11:59,529
The gap since 2022 consistently

2109
01:11:59,932 --> 01:12:01,433
has had 14 outcomes. It has 15

2110
01:12:01,433 --> 01:12:03,402
departments, including two two

2111
01:12:03,402 --> 01:12:05,304
charter offices, and we also

2112
01:12:05,304 --> 01:12:06,839
were able to do a 43 equity

2113
01:12:06,839 --> 01:12:08,407
point department assessment

2114
01:12:08,407 --> 01:12:10,407
profile. We're currently

2115
01:12:10,442 --> 01:12:12,545
working with city leadership to

2116
01:12:12,545 --> 01:12:14,680
actually launch that redone

2117
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,915
assessment and profile that

2118
01:12:16,915 --> 01:12:18,683
alternates with the employee

2119
01:12:18,683 --> 01:12:19,785
engagement survey that is

2120
01:12:19,785 --> 01:12:22,785
conducted out of the city

2121
01:12:24,423 --> 01:12:25,891
manager's office. It is also

2122
01:12:25,891 --> 01:12:28,270
we've also been able to do

2123
01:12:28,270 --> 01:12:29,193
in-person as well as virtual

2124
01:12:29,193 --> 01:12:30,896
foundational racial equity and

2125
01:12:30,896 --> 01:12:31,997
role of government trainings.

2126
01:12:31,997 --> 01:12:34,200
And of course, the first phase

2127
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,600
of our development equity

2128
01:12:38,169 --> 01:12:39,938
leadership through action. The

2129
01:12:39,938 --> 01:12:41,440
ongoing work and support. I

2130
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,143
really want to thank the equity

2131
01:12:43,143 --> 01:12:44,309
teams for their work and

2132
01:12:44,309 --> 01:12:46,709
dedication and leadership over

2133
01:12:47,846 --> 01:12:49,648
the years. This work is takes

2134
01:12:49,648 --> 01:12:51,283
not just the small and mighty

2135
01:12:51,283 --> 01:12:53,252
team of the Office of Diversity

2136
01:12:53,252 --> 01:12:54,987
and Equity. The hr department

2137
01:12:54,987 --> 01:12:56,822
is behind this as well as the

2138
01:12:56,822 --> 01:12:59,725
city Manager's office. But the

2139
01:12:59,725 --> 01:13:01,126
equity teams in the departments

2140
01:13:01,126 --> 01:13:02,228
working and talking with city

2141
01:13:02,228 --> 01:13:03,695
leadership and trying to

2142
01:13:03,695 --> 01:13:05,931
understand the nuances to this

2143
01:13:05,931 --> 01:13:07,666
work are critical to advance

2144
01:13:07,666 --> 01:13:09,969
this work moving forward. So

2145
01:13:09,969 --> 01:13:12,271
this is just a brief timeline

2146
01:13:12,271 --> 01:13:13,405
of the ongoing work and support.

2147
01:13:13,405 --> 01:13:14,974
And the two things that I

2148
01:13:14,974 --> 01:13:17,974
really want to highlight here

2149
01:13:19,478 --> 01:13:21,413
is that this work is emerging

2150
01:13:21,413 --> 01:13:23,148
from workforce equity. We want

2151
01:13:23,148 --> 01:13:24,283
to look at other systems and

2152
01:13:24,283 --> 01:13:25,551
processes and procedures with

2153
01:13:25,551 --> 01:13:27,419
the race, gender and equity

2154
01:13:27,419 --> 01:13:29,588
action plan, but not lose

2155
01:13:29,588 --> 01:13:31,390
workforce equity. The other key

2156
01:13:31,390 --> 01:13:33,325
piece is that we are

2157
01:13:33,325 --> 01:13:34,593
integrating the results based

2158
01:13:34,593 --> 01:13:36,593
accountability framework, which

2159
01:13:36,762 --> 01:13:39,264
is Clear Path, Clear Impact

2160
01:13:39,264 --> 01:13:41,100
Software program, but it's a

2161
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:44,700
which is also known as rba,

2162
01:13:46,171 --> 01:13:47,606
which is about. Identifying key

2163
01:13:47,606 --> 01:13:49,441
equity centered performance

2164
01:13:49,441 --> 01:13:51,841
measures that advance equity,

2165
01:13:51,910 --> 01:13:53,379
but also that tells the story

2166
01:13:53,379 --> 01:13:55,113
of what those performance

2167
01:13:55,113 --> 01:13:56,949
measures and those outcomes are.

2168
01:13:56,949 --> 01:13:58,750
So that's really the

2169
01:13:58,750 --> 01:14:01,150
transformation of the gap

2170
01:14:04,556 --> 01:14:05,891
moving beyond 2025. What we

2171
01:14:05,891 --> 01:14:08,891
learned. We learned that the

2172
01:14:09,193 --> 01:14:11,830
most common gap outcomes that

2173
01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:14,599
teams resonated with or felt

2174
01:14:14,599 --> 01:14:18,203
they needed to work on were two,

2175
01:14:18,203 --> 01:14:19,638
ten, 13, and 14. 2 in 10 were

2176
01:14:19,638 --> 01:14:21,440
often paired together. As you

2177
01:14:21,440 --> 01:14:23,308
can see, this was about career

2178
01:14:23,308 --> 01:14:25,308
development or outreach

2179
01:14:25,811 --> 01:14:27,179
strategies. 13 and 14 was about

2180
01:14:27,179 --> 01:14:28,647
capacity building, career

2181
01:14:28,647 --> 01:14:29,782
development and professional

2182
01:14:29,782 --> 01:14:31,884
development. And so those were

2183
01:14:31,884 --> 01:14:33,385
often paired together as well.

2184
01:14:33,385 --> 01:14:36,655
Some of the changes that we

2185
01:14:36,655 --> 01:14:37,790
have been able to see has been

2186
01:14:37,790 --> 01:14:39,790
better collaboration across

2187
01:14:40,225 --> 01:14:42,225
city departments. The

2188
01:14:42,761 --> 01:14:45,330
normalization of this work and

2189
01:14:45,330 --> 01:14:46,831
in the hiring and interviewing

2190
01:14:46,831 --> 01:14:49,168
process, which you'll hear more

2191
01:14:49,168 --> 01:14:50,735
a little in for the rest of the

2192
01:14:50,735 --> 01:14:52,438
presentation. Departments being

2193
01:14:52,438 --> 01:14:53,505
more organized in their efforts

2194
01:14:53,505 --> 01:14:54,640
and more thoughtful about

2195
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,375
embedding equity at the

2196
01:14:56,375 --> 01:14:57,843
beginning of the process.

2197
01:14:57,843 --> 01:14:59,244
Expansive in thinking and

2198
01:14:59,244 --> 01:15:00,645
looking at external

2199
01:15:00,645 --> 01:15:03,450
shareholders and how community

2200
01:15:03,281 --> 01:15:05,717
can help and collaborate. And

2201
01:15:05,717 --> 01:15:08,717
in terms of advancing messages

2202
01:15:09,321 --> 01:15:11,156
around outreach and encouraging

2203
01:15:11,156 --> 01:15:12,224
communities of color as well as

2204
01:15:12,224 --> 01:15:14,224
marginalized communities, to

2205
01:15:15,930 --> 01:15:17,629
see the city as an employer.

2206
01:15:17,629 --> 01:15:19,465
While the cohort that began in

2207
01:15:19,465 --> 01:15:21,533
2018 reflected the depth and

2208
01:15:21,533 --> 01:15:24,533
breadth of our city leadership,

2209
01:15:25,504 --> 01:15:26,705
the one lesson learned is that

2210
01:15:26,705 --> 01:15:29,207
it's important to develop goals

2211
01:15:29,207 --> 01:15:31,207
and performance measures

2212
01:15:31,276 --> 01:15:33,111
without the input of staff can

2213
01:15:33,111 --> 01:15:34,479
not necessarily make those

2214
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:35,913
performance measures take root,

2215
01:15:35,913 --> 01:15:37,350
and that's informing our

2216
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:39,750
process about how we're

2217
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:43,922
transforming the gap currently.

2218
01:15:43,922 --> 01:15:46,240
And in that transformation is,

2219
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,526
as I mentioned, equity centered,

2220
01:15:47,526 --> 01:15:48,594
results based accountability

2221
01:15:48,594 --> 01:15:50,395
framework, which we're very

2222
01:15:50,395 --> 01:15:51,796
excited about. This is a very

2223
01:15:51,796 --> 01:15:54,196
precise framework where you

2224
01:15:54,632 --> 01:15:56,632
identify performance measures

2225
01:15:56,835 --> 01:15:59,400
that are directly from the

2226
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,404
equity teams. They're equity

2227
01:16:03,609 --> 01:16:06,578
centered. We've been able to

2228
01:16:06,578 --> 01:16:08,460
collaborate with the Sacramento

2229
01:16:08,460 --> 01:16:10,182
County Department of Family and

2230
01:16:10,182 --> 01:16:11,984
Child Services at the county in

2231
01:16:11,984 --> 01:16:13,752
order to access this clear

2232
01:16:13,752 --> 01:16:15,487
impact software, which will

2233
01:16:15,487 --> 01:16:16,621
enable us to do a turn the

2234
01:16:16,621 --> 01:16:17,656
curve strategy on these

2235
01:16:17,656 --> 01:16:19,891
performance measures. So we're

2236
01:16:19,891 --> 01:16:21,693
very excited about that. That

2237
01:16:21,693 --> 01:16:24,529
came off the heels. And as a

2238
01:16:24,529 --> 01:16:26,310
result of the networking,

2239
01:16:26,310 --> 01:16:28,133
because we had a race gender

2240
01:16:28,133 --> 01:16:29,601
inequity action plan, we were

2241
01:16:29,601 --> 01:16:31,503
positioned and invited by the

2242
01:16:31,503 --> 01:16:33,672
Government Alliance on Race and

2243
01:16:33,672 --> 01:16:34,673
Equity to participate in their

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01:16:34,673 --> 01:16:36,608
jurisdiction evaluation

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learning exchange from OCTOBER

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01:16:39,678 --> 01:16:41,813
20th 24 to 2025. This enabled

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01:16:41,813 --> 01:16:44,150
us to receive technical

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01:16:44,150 --> 01:16:45,784
assistance, especially during

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01:16:45,784 --> 01:16:47,252
budget challenges. To receive

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01:16:47,252 --> 01:16:48,387
that technical assistance

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01:16:48,387 --> 01:16:49,855
really boosted the way that

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01:16:49,855 --> 01:16:51,590
we're going to collect data,

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01:16:51,590 --> 01:16:52,758
the way that we report the

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01:16:52,758 --> 01:16:54,960
results and the way that we'll

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01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,560
be able to support the equity

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01:17:01,366 --> 01:17:02,701
teams. Ongoing efforts 2025 and

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01:17:02,701 --> 01:17:04,701
beyond. Employee resource

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01:17:06,338 --> 01:17:07,572
groups want to highlight here

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01:17:07,572 --> 01:17:08,773
that all of our new hires

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01:17:08,773 --> 01:17:11,173
receive information about ERGs

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01:17:12,144 --> 01:17:13,779
during onboarding and through

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01:17:13,779 --> 01:17:15,180
the city's learning management

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01:17:15,180 --> 01:17:17,180
system, including opportunities

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01:17:17,349 --> 01:17:19,584
to get involved. Our office is

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01:17:19,584 --> 01:17:22,421
also appoint an liaison for all

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01:17:22,421 --> 01:17:24,256
ERGs as well. In addition, all

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01:17:24,256 --> 01:17:25,724
employees receive annual

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01:17:25,724 --> 01:17:27,559
communication regarding erg

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01:17:27,559 --> 01:17:29,559
opportunities and participation,

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01:17:29,628 --> 01:17:31,830
and in SEPTEMBER of 2025, the

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01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:32,864
city implemented the Employee

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01:17:32,864 --> 01:17:34,366
Resource Group policy to

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01:17:34,366 --> 01:17:35,734
further the city's goal of

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01:17:35,734 --> 01:17:38,134
reflecting the community we

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01:17:38,303 --> 01:17:39,371
serve. And so our office is

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01:17:39,371 --> 01:17:41,340
currently working with the

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01:17:41,340 --> 01:17:42,574
office of, excuse me, the

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01:17:42,574 --> 01:17:44,574
African American Leadership

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01:17:44,776 --> 01:17:47,120
Employee Council, Asian Pacific

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01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,181
Islander, erg, women's erg, and

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01:17:49,181 --> 01:17:50,582
the lgbtq plus erg to support

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01:17:50,582 --> 01:17:52,582
the establishment and

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01:17:52,684 --> 01:17:54,920
recognition of these structures

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01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,655
under the erg policy framework.

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01:17:56,655 --> 01:17:58,156
I also want to extend an

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01:17:58,156 --> 01:18:00,625
appreciation to the efforts of

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01:18:00,625 --> 01:18:02,940
city staff. Emilio from the

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01:18:02,940 --> 01:18:03,862
City Attorney's Office, Jessica

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01:18:03,862 --> 01:18:05,862
from Community Engagement

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01:18:05,997 --> 01:18:07,799
Council staff. Eduardo from

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01:18:07,799 --> 01:18:09,633
Vice Mayor Telemontes office,

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01:18:09,633 --> 01:18:10,702
along with the Vice Mayor

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01:18:10,702 --> 01:18:12,904
Telemontes and Mayor Pro Tem

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01:18:12,904 --> 01:18:14,272
Guerra to help bring staff

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01:18:14,272 --> 01:18:16,807
community together to see the

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01:18:16,807 --> 01:18:19,807
interest for a Latinx Hispanic

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01:18:22,948 --> 01:18:25,948
erg. So really appreciate that.

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01:18:26,170 --> 01:18:27,285
The developing equity action

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01:18:27,285 --> 01:18:29,685
through leadership, that's our

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01:18:29,821 --> 01:18:31,589
Delta program. So in 2024, we

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01:18:31,589 --> 01:18:33,240
did listening sessions with

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01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,127
staff, particularly staff who

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01:18:35,127 --> 01:18:37,328
are not in offices or have

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01:18:37,328 --> 01:18:38,430
access to offices. We wanted to

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01:18:38,430 --> 01:18:40,331
understand how we can help

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01:18:40,331 --> 01:18:42,367
build the capacity and include

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01:18:42,367 --> 01:18:44,135
them in trainings and other

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01:18:44,135 --> 01:18:45,437
initiatives and efforts around

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01:18:45,437 --> 01:18:47,837
diversity, equity and inclusion

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01:18:48,206 --> 01:18:49,808
and racial equity in that. And

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01:18:49,808 --> 01:18:52,430
so we'll be that will be

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01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:53,244
informing our program. Our

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01:18:53,244 --> 01:18:55,313
future goals currently right

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01:18:55,313 --> 01:18:57,820
now are to create managerial

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01:18:57,820 --> 01:18:58,949
tracks, as well as develop

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01:18:58,949 --> 01:19:01,860
learning journeys through the

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01:19:01,860 --> 01:19:03,860
city's learning management

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01:19:03,221 --> 01:19:04,689
system. We also, in 2025,

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01:19:04,689 --> 01:19:06,491
implemented our Curiosity and

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01:19:06,491 --> 01:19:08,593
Open Openness series, along

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01:19:08,593 --> 01:19:11,463
with with our annual 21 day

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01:19:11,463 --> 01:19:13,863
Racial Equity Habit Building

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01:19:17,202 --> 01:19:18,303
Challenge. Lastly, we will be

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01:19:18,303 --> 01:19:19,804
working with city leadership on

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01:19:19,804 --> 01:19:21,272
the implementation of an equity

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01:19:21,272 --> 01:19:23,730
point assessment to measure

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01:19:23,730 --> 01:19:24,476
areas of organizational

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01:19:24,476 --> 01:19:25,944
commitment measurement to

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01:19:25,944 --> 01:19:27,944
continuous quality improvement.

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01:19:28,112 --> 01:19:29,147
This will not only help us

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01:19:29,147 --> 01:19:30,248
understand the needs of

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01:19:30,248 --> 01:19:32,170
departments, but it will help

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01:19:32,170 --> 01:19:33,485
us elevate strategies to a

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01:19:33,485 --> 01:19:36,485
citywide level, as well as

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01:19:38,189 --> 01:19:39,758
inform future work. The gap was

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01:19:39,758 --> 01:19:41,793
intended to be a five year plan.

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01:19:41,793 --> 01:19:43,328
We know practices, needs and

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01:19:43,328 --> 01:19:45,300
strategies need to change. We

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01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:46,970
are at an exciting time to

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01:19:46,970 --> 01:19:48,970
strategically, strategically

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01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:50,468
align and embed equity centered,

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01:19:50,468 --> 01:19:51,469
be a results based

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01:19:51,469 --> 01:19:52,971
accountability as an approach

2344
01:19:52,971 --> 01:19:54,339
to implement city equity

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01:19:54,339 --> 01:19:56,541
centered initiatives which are

2346
01:19:56,541 --> 01:19:57,942
currently underway. Efforts,

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01:19:57,942 --> 01:19:59,444
long range planning and

2348
01:19:59,444 --> 01:20:01,279
strategic priorities of city

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01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:02,280
leadership and council. As

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01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:03,481
outlined in the Sacramento.

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01:20:03,481 --> 01:20:05,917
Centered on Race and Equity

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01:20:05,917 --> 01:20:07,319
Work Plan just approved by the

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01:20:07,319 --> 01:20:09,153
Racial Equity Committee and of

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01:20:09,153 --> 01:20:10,589
course, the one city, one

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01:20:10,589 --> 01:20:11,990
Future Strategic Priorities

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01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:13,591
plan that was just launched

2357
01:20:13,591 --> 01:20:14,926
earlier this month as well. So

2358
01:20:14,926 --> 01:20:19,126
now I'll turn it over to our

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01:20:19,931 --> 01:20:21,931
colleague Ebony.

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01:20:25,736 --> 01:20:27,138
>> Do we have a long session?

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01:20:27,138 --> 01:20:29,707
>> Good afternoon. My name is

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01:20:29,707 --> 01:20:31,750
Ebony. Hi. My name is Ebony

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01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:32,510
Heaven, human resources manager

2364
01:20:32,510 --> 01:20:34,311
for employment Services and the

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01:20:34,311 --> 01:20:35,346
hr department. And I'd like to

2366
01:20:35,346 --> 01:20:36,848
discuss a few recruitment

2367
01:20:36,848 --> 01:20:39,248
strategies we've implemented to

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01:20:40,180 --> 01:20:41,252
diversify our workforce.

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01:20:41,252 --> 01:20:42,587
Employment services has focused

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01:20:42,587 --> 01:20:43,689
heavily on modernizing

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01:20:43,689 --> 01:20:45,457
recruitment processes to

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01:20:45,457 --> 01:20:47,592
improve both efficiency and

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01:20:47,592 --> 01:20:48,693
accessibility. One of the most

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01:20:48,693 --> 01:20:50,295
significant advances has been

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01:20:50,295 --> 01:20:52,697
the expansion of online civil

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01:20:52,697 --> 01:20:54,990
service examinations, allowing

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01:20:54,990 --> 01:20:56,990
applicants to complete

2378
01:20:56,333 --> 01:20:58,690
examinations remotely and on a

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01:20:58,690 --> 01:20:59,870
flexible schedule. This

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01:20:59,870 --> 01:21:01,105
approach broadens access to

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01:21:01,105 --> 01:21:02,774
candidates who MAY otherwise

2382
01:21:02,774 --> 01:21:04,943
face barriers to attending in

2383
01:21:04,943 --> 01:21:06,845
person examinations.

2384
01:21:06,845 --> 01:21:08,179
Additionally, we've implemented

2385
01:21:08,179 --> 01:21:09,214
automated scoring methods,

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01:21:09,214 --> 01:21:10,348
particularly with training and

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01:21:10,348 --> 01:21:12,748
development or training and

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01:21:12,950 --> 01:21:14,950
experience examinations, which

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01:21:15,530 --> 01:21:16,855
has significantly reduced

2390
01:21:16,855 --> 01:21:17,555
manual processing time.

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01:21:17,555 --> 01:21:19,900
Collectively, these efforts

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01:21:19,900 --> 01:21:20,492
have shortened recruitment

2393
01:21:20,492 --> 01:21:22,892
timelines by approximately 5 to

2394
01:21:22,927 --> 01:21:24,429
8 weeks, while also improving

2395
01:21:24,429 --> 01:21:25,829
consistency, confidentiality

2396
01:21:25,829 --> 01:21:27,829
and overall operational

2397
01:21:29,567 --> 01:21:30,869
efficiency. A major a major

2398
01:21:30,869 --> 01:21:32,704
priority for hr has been

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01:21:32,704 --> 01:21:33,838
ensuring that recruitment

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01:21:33,838 --> 01:21:35,540
practices align with the city's

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01:21:35,540 --> 01:21:37,940
equity and inclusion goals.

2402
01:21:38,109 --> 01:21:39,577
Since 2023, all staff

2403
01:21:39,577 --> 01:21:40,745
participating on an interview

2404
01:21:40,745 --> 01:21:42,800
panel are required to complete

2405
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:43,815
an implicit bias training

2406
01:21:43,815 --> 01:21:45,830
focused on recognizing and

2407
01:21:45,830 --> 01:21:47,830
minimizing unconscious bias

2408
01:21:47,419 --> 01:21:48,952
during the interview process.

2409
01:21:48,952 --> 01:21:50,188
We have also worked to

2410
01:21:50,188 --> 01:21:51,423
modernize examination content

2411
01:21:51,423 --> 01:21:52,524
and classification

2412
01:21:52,524 --> 01:21:54,259
specifications by removing

2413
01:21:54,259 --> 01:21:55,727
gender specific language or

2414
01:21:55,727 --> 01:21:57,194
exclusionary language, and

2415
01:21:57,194 --> 01:21:58,763
partnering with vendors to

2416
01:21:58,763 --> 01:22:00,763
ensure equitable assessments

2417
01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:03,401
and practices. In addition,

2418
01:22:03,401 --> 01:22:05,370
Human Resources is reviewing

2419
01:22:05,370 --> 01:22:06,870
minimum qualifications across

2420
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:08,640
classifications to identify

2421
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,408
opportunities to substitute

2422
01:22:10,408 --> 01:22:11,910
experience certification

2423
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:13,311
demonstrated competencies in

2424
01:22:13,311 --> 01:22:15,146
place of rigid degree

2425
01:22:15,146 --> 01:22:17,146
requirements where appropriate.

2426
01:22:18,150 --> 01:22:19,584
These efforts help to reduce

2427
01:22:19,584 --> 01:22:21,285
barriers to employment and

2428
01:22:21,285 --> 01:22:23,685
create more equitable pathways

2429
01:22:25,923 --> 01:22:27,580
to city opportunities. We

2430
01:22:27,580 --> 01:22:29,193
recognize that long term

2431
01:22:29,193 --> 01:22:31,950
recruitment success requires

2432
01:22:31,950 --> 01:22:33,950
proactive workforce pipeline

2433
01:22:33,164 --> 01:22:34,231
development. To ensure this

2434
01:22:34,231 --> 01:22:35,767
effort, we significantly

2435
01:22:35,767 --> 01:22:37,767
expanded outreach efforts

2436
01:22:37,869 --> 01:22:39,637
through social media platforms,

2437
01:22:39,637 --> 01:22:41,710
community events, strategic

2438
01:22:41,710 --> 01:22:42,841
marketing initiatives,

2439
01:22:42,841 --> 01:22:45,376
including the use of city owned

2440
01:22:45,376 --> 01:22:47,278
billboards. We also established

2441
01:22:47,278 --> 01:22:48,413
a general intern classification,

2442
01:22:48,413 --> 01:22:50,414
which allows individuals as

2443
01:22:50,414 --> 01:22:51,850
long as as young as 16 to gain

2444
01:22:51,850 --> 01:22:53,850
workforce exposure without

2445
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:55,453
requiring minimum

2446
01:22:55,453 --> 01:22:56,921
qualifications. In addition,

2447
01:22:56,921 --> 01:22:58,355
departments are being

2448
01:22:58,355 --> 01:22:59,824
encouraged to strategically

2449
01:22:59,824 --> 01:23:01,225
utilize nonunion

2450
01:23:01,225 --> 01:23:03,428
classifications to help develop

2451
01:23:03,428 --> 01:23:05,263
internal pipelines to fill hard

2452
01:23:05,263 --> 01:23:06,698
to feel, hard to fill.

2453
01:23:06,698 --> 01:23:07,698
Classifications are. These

2454
01:23:07,698 --> 01:23:09,267
initiatives are designed to

2455
01:23:09,267 --> 01:23:09,767
broaden access to employment

2456
01:23:09,767 --> 01:23:11,369
opportunities while

2457
01:23:11,369 --> 01:23:13,369
strengthening the city's

2458
01:23:15,673 --> 01:23:17,108
workforce. Beyond recruitment,

2459
01:23:17,108 --> 01:23:18,142
hr has also focused on

2460
01:23:18,142 --> 01:23:19,577
improving the candidate and new

2461
01:23:19,577 --> 01:23:21,450
hire experience through the

2462
01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:23,214
implementation of a centralized

2463
01:23:23,214 --> 01:23:24,215
onboarding platform. This

2464
01:23:24,215 --> 01:23:25,749
platform automates

2465
01:23:25,749 --> 01:23:27,352
pre-employment tasks,

2466
01:23:27,352 --> 01:23:28,619
streamlines document completion,

2467
01:23:28,619 --> 01:23:30,421
and provides employees with

2468
01:23:30,421 --> 01:23:32,821
early access to important

2469
01:23:32,924 --> 01:23:33,858
information and resources. The

2470
01:23:33,858 --> 01:23:35,826
onboarding platform creates a

2471
01:23:35,826 --> 01:23:37,995
more consistent and transparent

2472
01:23:37,995 --> 01:23:39,290
experience citywide, while

2473
01:23:39,290 --> 01:23:40,831
reducing delays and

2474
01:23:40,831 --> 01:23:41,900
administrative burden. It also

2475
01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:43,334
supports equity and

2476
01:23:43,334 --> 01:23:44,340
accessibility by allowing

2477
01:23:44,340 --> 01:23:45,869
employees to complete

2478
01:23:45,869 --> 01:23:47,305
onboarding requirements

2479
01:23:47,305 --> 01:23:48,773
electronically and at their

2480
01:23:48,773 --> 01:23:49,807
convenience. These improvements

2481
01:23:49,807 --> 01:23:51,609
better position employees for

2482
01:23:51,609 --> 01:23:53,645
long term success and better

2483
01:23:53,645 --> 01:23:55,645
engagement with the

2484
01:24:02,420 --> 01:24:03,855
organization. While hr has made

2485
01:24:03,855 --> 01:24:04,955
significant progress in

2486
01:24:04,955 --> 01:24:06,724
modernizing and improving the

2487
01:24:06,724 --> 01:24:08,125
city's recruitment practices,

2488
01:24:08,125 --> 01:24:09,193
several workforce challenges

2489
01:24:09,193 --> 01:24:11,593
continue to impact public

2490
01:24:11,796 --> 01:24:13,831
sector hiring both locally and

2491
01:24:13,831 --> 01:24:15,433
nationally. The city continues

2492
01:24:15,433 --> 01:24:16,801
to operate in an increasingly

2493
01:24:16,801 --> 01:24:18,536
increasingly competitive labor

2494
01:24:18,536 --> 01:24:20,470
market, where many employers,

2495
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:21,839
both public and private, are

2496
01:24:21,839 --> 01:24:24,800
competing for a limited pool of

2497
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:25,176
candidates. The challenge is

2498
01:24:25,176 --> 01:24:26,577
especially challenging for

2499
01:24:26,577 --> 01:24:28,450
highly specialized technical

2500
01:24:28,450 --> 01:24:29,414
are hard to fill

2501
01:24:29,414 --> 01:24:30,514
classifications where candidate

2502
01:24:30,514 --> 01:24:32,514
availability and market

2503
01:24:33,170 --> 01:24:35,887
competition is strong. At the

2504
01:24:35,887 --> 01:24:36,921
same time, hr must continue

2505
01:24:36,921 --> 01:24:38,456
delivering high quality

2506
01:24:38,456 --> 01:24:40,224
recruitment services while

2507
01:24:40,224 --> 01:24:41,726
navigating staffing limitations,

2508
01:24:41,726 --> 01:24:43,494
budget constraints, and

2509
01:24:43,494 --> 01:24:44,929
increasing service level

2510
01:24:44,929 --> 01:24:46,929
expectations. Departments are

2511
01:24:47,980 --> 01:24:48,833
seeking faster hiring timelines,

2512
01:24:48,833 --> 01:24:50,368
improved candidate experiences,

2513
01:24:50,368 --> 01:24:51,435
and greater workforce

2514
01:24:51,435 --> 01:24:52,437
flexibility, all while

2515
01:24:52,437 --> 01:24:54,339
maintaining compliance with

2516
01:24:54,339 --> 01:24:56,107
Civil Service Board rules,

2517
01:24:56,107 --> 01:24:57,909
equitable hiring practices, and

2518
01:24:57,909 --> 01:24:59,909
operational consistency

2519
01:25:00,378 --> 01:25:02,680
citywide. In response to these

2520
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,415
evolving needs, hr remains

2521
01:25:04,415 --> 01:25:05,850
focused on long term workforce

2522
01:25:05,850 --> 01:25:07,551
sustainability and strategic

2523
01:25:07,551 --> 01:25:08,653
modernization efforts. We will

2524
01:25:08,653 --> 01:25:10,221
continue focusing on

2525
01:25:10,221 --> 01:25:11,289
modernizing classification

2526
01:25:11,289 --> 01:25:13,289
structures, strengthening

2527
01:25:13,291 --> 01:25:14,359
workforce analytics, and

2528
01:25:14,359 --> 01:25:15,493
expanding educational

2529
01:25:15,493 --> 01:25:17,493
partnerships, and identifying

2530
01:25:17,595 --> 01:25:19,995
innovative ways to streamline

2531
01:25:21,966 --> 01:25:23,966
hiring recruitment processes,

2532
01:25:24,168 --> 01:25:25,203
equity, accessibility, and

2533
01:25:25,203 --> 01:25:27,203
workforce sustainability will

2534
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:29,140
remain central to all

2535
01:25:29,140 --> 01:25:31,140
recruitment and workforce

2536
01:25:31,375 --> 01:25:33,510
development strategies. Hr is

2537
01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:35,120
committed to ensuring the

2538
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,120
recruitment processes are

2539
01:25:37,181 --> 01:25:38,182
equitable, transparent,

2540
01:25:38,182 --> 01:25:39,283
accessible and reflective of

2541
01:25:39,283 --> 01:25:41,520
the diverse communities we

2542
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,187
serve. The city's long term

2543
01:25:43,187 --> 01:25:44,655
goal is not only to fill

2544
01:25:44,655 --> 01:25:46,157
vacancies, but to build a

2545
01:25:46,157 --> 01:25:47,525
sustainable, inclusive and high

2546
01:25:47,525 --> 01:25:48,960
performing workforce that is

2547
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:50,610
prepared to meet the future

2548
01:25:50,610 --> 01:25:52,610
organizational and community

2549
01:25:52,964 --> 01:25:53,965
needs. This concludes our

2550
01:25:53,965 --> 01:25:54,965
presentation, and we're happy

2551
01:25:54,965 --> 01:25:56,634
to answer any additional

2552
01:25:56,634 --> 01:25:58,369
questions you MAY have.

2553
01:25:58,369 --> 01:26:01,369
>> Okay. Thank. Thank you very

2554
01:26:01,639 --> 01:26:04,141
much for for that very thorough

2555
01:26:04,141 --> 01:26:06,770
presentation. And Council

2556
01:26:06,770 --> 01:26:07,278
Member Maple.

2557
01:26:07,278 --> 01:26:09,113
>> Thank you, chair, and really

2558
01:26:09,113 --> 01:26:09,981
do appreciate the thorough

2559
01:26:09,981 --> 01:26:11,582
presentation. I think,

2560
01:26:11,582 --> 01:26:12,817
especially because, you know, I

2561
01:26:12,817 --> 01:26:14,151
think being reminded of a lot

2562
01:26:14,151 --> 01:26:16,120
of the work that's happened

2563
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,550
over over several years before

2564
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:19,589
some of us were on here on this

2565
01:26:19,589 --> 01:26:21,325
dais, including myself, is

2566
01:26:21,325 --> 01:26:22,627
important. And then the work

2567
01:26:22,627 --> 01:26:24,428
that's happened to address the

2568
01:26:24,428 --> 01:26:25,428
things that have come up in

2569
01:26:25,428 --> 01:26:27,465
previous audits is important,

2570
01:26:27,465 --> 01:26:30,670
too. So I just wanted to open

2571
01:26:30,670 --> 01:26:32,203
with that. I remember before I

2572
01:26:32,203 --> 01:26:33,270
was elected to this council,

2573
01:26:33,270 --> 01:26:36,107
several years before then, I

2574
01:26:36,107 --> 01:26:38,800
was sitting in that audience

2575
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:39,410
advocating with then then

2576
01:26:39,410 --> 01:26:41,679
Council member Angelique Ashby

2577
01:26:41,679 --> 01:26:42,712
and others on the very first

2578
01:26:42,712 --> 01:26:45,820
diversity and equity and

2579
01:26:45,820 --> 01:26:46,217
inclusion audit. And that was a

2580
01:26:46,217 --> 01:26:48,185
huge milestone. And I thought

2581
01:26:48,185 --> 01:26:49,620
it was a great way, I believe,

2582
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:51,122
on any policy issue, whatever

2583
01:26:51,122 --> 01:26:53,124
it MAY be. You have to

2584
01:26:53,124 --> 01:26:54,492
understand first what the

2585
01:26:54,492 --> 01:26:55,993
problem is. If there is a

2586
01:26:55,993 --> 01:26:57,428
problem, have the data, have an

2587
01:26:57,428 --> 01:26:58,562
understanding, and then to be

2588
01:26:58,562 --> 01:27:00,430
able to actually address what

2589
01:27:00,430 --> 01:27:01,631
comes next. A lot of times some

2590
01:27:01,631 --> 01:27:03,534
of some folks will try to come

2591
01:27:03,534 --> 01:27:04,501
up with a solution before you

2592
01:27:04,501 --> 01:27:05,670
really understand what the

2593
01:27:05,670 --> 01:27:06,737
problem is. And sometimes the

2594
01:27:06,737 --> 01:27:08,573
solution is not actually the

2595
01:27:08,573 --> 01:27:09,740
right one. And so I'm really

2596
01:27:09,740 --> 01:27:10,675
glad that that we do this

2597
01:27:10,675 --> 01:27:12,577
continuously. I think we've

2598
01:27:12,577 --> 01:27:13,778
learned a lot over the years.

2599
01:27:13,778 --> 01:27:15,546
And I think that because of

2600
01:27:15,546 --> 01:27:17,982
that work, you all have been

2601
01:27:17,982 --> 01:27:19,383
able to implement very real

2602
01:27:19,383 --> 01:27:21,783
strategies internally in the

2603
01:27:22,253 --> 01:27:23,587
city to make sure that we have

2604
01:27:23,587 --> 01:27:24,855
we make the changes that we

2605
01:27:24,855 --> 01:27:26,590
want to see, and we're already

2606
01:27:26,590 --> 01:27:27,725
seeing the outcome of that. And

2607
01:27:27,725 --> 01:27:29,593
I think that's that's evident

2608
01:27:29,593 --> 01:27:30,828
if you look at the reports over

2609
01:27:30,828 --> 01:27:32,596
time. So I just wanted to say

2610
01:27:32,596 --> 01:27:33,731
that's exciting. And I'm, you

2611
01:27:33,731 --> 01:27:34,765
know, I'm glad I'm looking

2612
01:27:34,765 --> 01:27:35,866
forward to future ones and

2613
01:27:35,866 --> 01:27:37,735
continuing that work. The only

2614
01:27:37,735 --> 01:27:41,138
major question I had was around

2615
01:27:41,138 --> 01:27:43,473
the gender pay disparities. So

2616
01:27:43,473 --> 01:27:44,975
as I read the report, basically

2617
01:27:44,975 --> 01:27:47,811
it's we didn't do like a study

2618
01:27:47,811 --> 01:27:48,979
of the actual of actual pay of

2619
01:27:48,979 --> 01:27:51,148
gender pay throughout the

2620
01:27:51,148 --> 01:27:53,250
entire city. We kind of did an

2621
01:27:53,250 --> 01:27:53,918
averages of certain positions.

2622
01:27:53,918 --> 01:27:55,753
Is that right?

2623
01:27:55,753 --> 01:27:58,255
>> It's very high level. I mean,

2624
01:27:58,255 --> 01:28:00,758
doing a gender study by looking

2625
01:28:00,758 --> 01:28:02,526
more detailed on every specific

2626
01:28:02,526 --> 01:28:04,328
position and, you know,

2627
01:28:04,328 --> 01:28:06,328
experience, education,

2628
01:28:06,564 --> 01:28:08,320
qualifications of every person

2629
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:09,567
in each of those positions is

2630
01:28:09,567 --> 01:28:10,701
just is beyond the scope of

2631
01:28:10,701 --> 01:28:10,935
this audit. It's very high

2632
01:28:10,935 --> 01:28:12,636
level.

2633
01:28:12,636 --> 01:28:14,505
>> It would need to be, you

2634
01:28:14,505 --> 01:28:15,606
know, if we wanted to do

2635
01:28:15,606 --> 01:28:17,475
something like that, we would

2636
01:28:17,475 --> 01:28:18,542
need to have you work on a

2637
01:28:18,542 --> 01:28:19,710
different specific audit to do

2638
01:28:19,710 --> 01:28:21,478
that work because it would be

2639
01:28:21,478 --> 01:28:22,613
okay. I think that's really

2640
01:28:22,613 --> 01:28:24,482
important to point out because

2641
01:28:24,482 --> 01:28:25,683
I don't want anyone to, to read

2642
01:28:25,683 --> 01:28:27,585
this, you know, and I know that

2643
01:28:27,585 --> 01:28:28,719
you pointed out in there that

2644
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:30,621
that it's high level. But I

2645
01:28:30,621 --> 01:28:32,523
just want to say for on the

2646
01:28:32,523 --> 01:28:33,524
record that, you know, it's not

2647
01:28:33,524 --> 01:28:34,725
necessarily that we're seeing a

2648
01:28:34,725 --> 01:28:36,561
problem here at the city. We

2649
01:28:36,561 --> 01:28:37,794
don't actually know that per se.

2650
01:28:37,794 --> 01:28:39,496
We just know that there's some

2651
01:28:39,496 --> 01:28:40,564
high level trends and there's

2652
01:28:40,564 --> 01:28:42,467
trends also nationally. And so

2653
01:28:42,467 --> 01:28:43,668
we can we can glean some things

2654
01:28:43,668 --> 01:28:45,636
from that. But yeah, I just, I

2655
01:28:45,636 --> 01:28:46,737
just think that's a good thing

2656
01:28:46,737 --> 01:28:48,605
to point out because I don't

2657
01:28:48,605 --> 01:28:50,474
want anyone to take, you know,

2658
01:28:50,474 --> 01:28:51,475
I don't want the headline to be,

2659
01:28:51,475 --> 01:28:52,510
you know, gender pay

2660
01:28:52,510 --> 01:28:53,510
disparities without us really

2661
01:28:53,510 --> 01:28:54,645
understanding that. And so,

2662
01:28:54,645 --> 01:28:56,580
okay, with that, I'm happy to,

2663
01:28:56,580 --> 01:28:58,482
to move this and just want to

2664
01:28:58,482 --> 01:28:59,617
say thank you for the work. I

2665
01:28:59,617 --> 01:29:01,519
know it's been iterative over

2666
01:29:01,519 --> 01:29:02,586
time, but it always gives me I

2667
01:29:02,586 --> 01:29:04,522
always get excited when I see

2668
01:29:04,522 --> 01:29:04,689
this on the agenda. So thank

2669
01:29:04,689 --> 01:29:06,490
you.

2670
01:29:06,490 --> 01:29:07,558
>> All right. We have a motion

2671
01:29:07,558 --> 01:29:08,893
to accept the audit and

2672
01:29:08,893 --> 01:29:10,694
forwarded to this one. Go to

2673
01:29:10,694 --> 01:29:12,196
the council. Yes. I'm not

2674
01:29:12,196 --> 01:29:14,665
looking at it. Okay. It goes to

2675
01:29:14,665 --> 01:29:18,865
thank you. And a second, by the

2676
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:20,337
by, Mayor Pro Tem. Do we have

2677
01:29:20,337 --> 01:29:22,390
any speakers?

2678
01:29:22,390 --> 01:29:25,390
>> I do have one speaker

2679
01:29:34,685 --> 01:29:35,586
Lambert. Okay.

2680
01:29:35,586 --> 01:29:37,586
>> Good afternoon.

2681
01:29:38,189 --> 01:29:40,524
>> Good afternoon. This is this

2682
01:29:40,524 --> 01:29:43,940
is exactly some of the things

2683
01:29:43,940 --> 01:29:45,628
that I'm challenging at City

2684
01:29:45,628 --> 01:29:48,399
Hall. First of all, I would

2685
01:29:48,399 --> 01:29:50,233
like to thank the auditor for

2686
01:29:50,233 --> 01:29:53,233
confirming what I already know.

2687
01:29:54,171 --> 01:29:56,106
And also Army. Now, there was

2688
01:29:56,106 --> 01:29:58,843
an article when I returned home,

2689
01:29:58,843 --> 01:30:00,710
there was an article in the

2690
01:30:00,710 --> 01:30:02,513
newspaper called Sacramento

2691
01:30:02,513 --> 01:30:05,513
News and Review. People should

2692
01:30:05,549 --> 01:30:07,418
study this, and my family

2693
01:30:07,418 --> 01:30:08,619
showed it to me. When I moved

2694
01:30:08,619 --> 01:30:12,219
home, it was called the ancient

2695
01:30:12,623 --> 01:30:15,623
r Barnum and Bailey racist

2696
01:30:15,893 --> 01:30:17,661
Scandal at City Hall, and that

2697
01:30:17,661 --> 01:30:19,230
I have no idea how many years

2698
01:30:19,230 --> 01:30:21,265
ago that was. But I'm looking

2699
01:30:21,265 --> 01:30:24,330
at the same thing today. They

2700
01:30:24,330 --> 01:30:25,536
tried to blame Donald Trump for

2701
01:30:25,536 --> 01:30:29,730
resisting dei. But if you look

2702
01:30:29,730 --> 01:30:31,242
at these graphs, there's been

2703
01:30:31,242 --> 01:30:33,242
resistance we've documented

2704
01:30:33,877 --> 01:30:36,877
before he even became PRESIDENT.

2705
01:30:37,381 --> 01:30:38,748
Now here we look at blacks are

2706
01:30:38,748 --> 01:30:40,551
always at the bottom of

2707
01:30:40,551 --> 01:30:42,520
salaries. Are you telling me

2708
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,153
that black people who go to

2709
01:30:44,153 --> 01:30:45,623
college and get degrees are

2710
01:30:45,623 --> 01:30:49,223
still at the bottom? How is

2711
01:30:49,593 --> 01:30:52,163
that possible? Also, why are

2712
01:30:52,163 --> 01:30:55,163
whites always at the top?

2713
01:30:56,466 --> 01:30:59,466
What's that about? Also Asians?

2714
01:30:59,670 --> 01:31:03,870
I've often said it was my van

2715
01:31:04,341 --> 01:31:06,877
who confirmed that 25% of the

2716
01:31:06,877 --> 01:31:10,180
workforce at City Hall is Hmong,

2717
01:31:10,180 --> 01:31:12,316
and Hmongs are not 25% of the

2718
01:31:12,316 --> 01:31:14,510
city. That's a quota system.

2719
01:31:14,510 --> 01:31:18,251
And I put that on record at

2720
01:31:18,855 --> 01:31:21,291
City Hall. Quotas are illegal.

2721
01:31:21,291 --> 01:31:23,427
Also, it said Army made a good

2722
01:31:23,427 --> 01:31:26,427
point. She said the outcomes

2723
01:31:26,697 --> 01:31:28,232
can't take root without staff

2724
01:31:28,232 --> 01:31:30,300
support, and most of the people

2725
01:31:30,300 --> 01:31:32,436
who are implementing this

2726
01:31:32,436 --> 01:31:35,372
resistance are still on the

2727
01:31:35,372 --> 01:31:36,673
payroll. At City Hall.

2728
01:31:36,673 --> 01:31:38,375
>> I have no more speakers.

2729
01:31:38,375 --> 01:31:39,409
>> Okay. Thank you for your

2730
01:31:39,409 --> 01:31:41,809
comments. Thanks for your

2731
01:31:42,212 --> 01:31:43,547
comments. This is this is

2732
01:31:43,547 --> 01:31:45,947
important work. And the

2733
01:31:48,986 --> 01:31:52,586
commitment has to be. One that

2734
01:31:55,158 --> 01:31:58,950
that is. Felt throughout the

2735
01:31:58,950 --> 01:32:00,230
organization. So we've taken

2736
01:32:00,230 --> 01:32:02,299
some time today, but it's worth

2737
01:32:02,299 --> 01:32:05,299
it. And, and it's both

2738
01:32:05,936 --> 01:32:09,536
important to, to do this, this

2739
01:32:09,606 --> 01:32:11,208
updating every period interval

2740
01:32:11,208 --> 01:32:13,209
of, of time on a regular basis.

2741
01:32:13,209 --> 01:32:14,611
And it's important to know what

2742
01:32:14,611 --> 01:32:16,179
you're doing from a human

2743
01:32:16,179 --> 01:32:17,848
resources perspective, to have

2744
01:32:17,848 --> 01:32:20,317
the city workforce reflect our

2745
01:32:20,317 --> 01:32:22,586
city. We know that we know that

2746
01:32:22,586 --> 01:32:24,388
that is meaningful and in every

2747
01:32:24,388 --> 01:32:27,257
sense, not, not, not just in

2748
01:32:27,257 --> 01:32:30,694
numbers, but, but in pay equity,

2749
01:32:30,694 --> 01:32:33,940
in positions of responsibility

2750
01:32:33,664 --> 01:32:36,664
and management in every respect.

2751
01:32:36,900 --> 01:32:38,702
So thank you for the

2752
01:32:38,702 --> 01:32:40,470
presentations. We know there's

2753
01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:41,872
still work to do. That's that's

2754
01:32:41,872 --> 01:32:44,541
apparent from from what we see.

2755
01:32:44,541 --> 01:32:48,780
But but I think the fact that

2756
01:32:48,780 --> 01:32:49,846
we examine this is, is also

2757
01:32:49,846 --> 01:32:52,150
reflection of, of the

2758
01:32:52,150 --> 01:32:55,615
commitment that we have to, to

2759
01:32:55,652 --> 01:32:58,255
strive even to be better over

2760
01:32:58,255 --> 01:33:00,324
time. So with that, we have a

2761
01:33:00,324 --> 01:33:01,658
motion and a second, if there's

2762
01:33:01,658 --> 01:33:03,192
nothing further, all in favor,

2763
01:33:03,192 --> 01:33:05,662
signify by saying aye, aye.

2764
01:33:05,662 --> 01:33:07,764
Opposed say no. Any abstentions?

2765
01:33:07,764 --> 01:33:10,164
Hearing none. Motion carries.

2766
01:33:11,168 --> 01:33:14,768
Thanks very much. And we're on

2767
01:33:17,941 --> 01:33:19,810
to our next item, which is item

2768
01:33:19,810 --> 01:33:20,878
eight. Updates on current City

2769
01:33:20,878 --> 01:33:22,311
Council member proposals that

2770
01:33:22,311 --> 01:33:23,380
have been heard before the

2771
01:33:23,380 --> 01:33:26,380
Budget and Audit Committee. And

2772
01:33:28,385 --> 01:33:30,687
I think we have, Amy here to.

2773
01:33:30,687 --> 01:33:33,457
Walk us through the spreadsheet.

2774
01:33:33,457 --> 01:33:35,292
>> Great. Good afternoon, Chair

2775
01:33:35,292 --> 01:33:36,326
Dickinson and members of the

2776
01:33:36,326 --> 01:33:37,928
Budget and Audit Committee. My

2777
01:33:37,928 --> 01:33:39,963
name is Amy Williams. I'm chief

2778
01:33:39,963 --> 01:33:41,731
of staff to the City Manager,

2779
01:33:41,731 --> 01:33:44,568
and I am pleased to provide an

2780
01:33:44,568 --> 01:33:46,736
update this afternoon on our

2781
01:33:46,736 --> 01:33:48,872
council proposal log items that

2782
01:33:48,872 --> 01:33:51,809
have come before Budget and

2783
01:33:51,809 --> 01:33:53,377
Audit Committee. I'd like to

2784
01:33:53,377 --> 01:33:55,110
begin first with just a very

2785
01:33:55,110 --> 01:33:57,814
brief overview of how the

2786
01:33:57,814 --> 01:34:00,214
current proposal process works.

2787
01:34:00,750 --> 01:34:04,350
This is a process that was

2788
01:34:04,388 --> 01:34:07,590
instituted a few years ago to

2789
01:34:07,590 --> 01:34:09,359
where the council proposes an

2790
01:34:09,359 --> 01:34:11,193
idea. So Council Member office

2791
01:34:11,193 --> 01:34:13,730
proposes an idea and submits a

2792
01:34:13,730 --> 01:34:14,798
council proposal, request

2793
01:34:14,798 --> 01:34:16,900
submission to the clerk's

2794
01:34:16,900 --> 01:34:19,169
office, which then is reviewed

2795
01:34:19,169 --> 01:34:21,371
by the mayor, city Manager and

2796
01:34:21,371 --> 01:34:24,371
the City Attorney's Office. At

2797
01:34:24,508 --> 01:34:25,575
that point, the proposal idea

2798
01:34:25,575 --> 01:34:27,410
either there's refinements

2799
01:34:27,410 --> 01:34:29,112
being asked back to the

2800
01:34:29,112 --> 01:34:31,748
proposals, or it gets assigned

2801
01:34:31,748 --> 01:34:33,917
to an actual committee. Once it

2802
01:34:33,917 --> 01:34:35,719
reaches the committee, the

2803
01:34:35,719 --> 01:34:37,621
proposer office then also

2804
01:34:37,621 --> 01:34:38,922
presents this idea to a

2805
01:34:38,922 --> 01:34:40,900
committee. So say budget and

2806
01:34:40,900 --> 01:34:42,258
audit and then budget and audit.

2807
01:34:42,258 --> 01:34:44,227
Here's this proposal idea and

2808
01:34:44,227 --> 01:34:46,463
at that point in time gives a

2809
01:34:46,463 --> 01:34:47,598
thumbs up or maybe asks for

2810
01:34:47,598 --> 01:34:48,999
refinements. But if it gives a

2811
01:34:48,999 --> 01:34:51,234
thumbs up, it then gets

2812
01:34:51,234 --> 01:34:54,400
assigned to the department to

2813
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:55,938
work on the idea. So, and at

2814
01:34:55,938 --> 01:34:59,538
that point is when I start

2815
01:35:00,181 --> 01:35:02,279
tracking the log. And at that

2816
01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:04,548
point, also, generally speaking,

2817
01:35:04,548 --> 01:35:05,849
the staff assigned to that

2818
01:35:05,849 --> 01:35:07,451
particular proposal idea

2819
01:35:07,451 --> 01:35:09,286
reaches out to that council

2820
01:35:09,286 --> 01:35:10,587
office, learns a little bit

2821
01:35:10,587 --> 01:35:11,722
more, and again, I start

2822
01:35:11,722 --> 01:35:13,457
updating and maintaining the

2823
01:35:13,457 --> 01:35:16,760
log as it progresses. As this

2824
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:18,594
council proposal idea becomes,

2825
01:35:18,594 --> 01:35:20,497
goes through the system. Just

2826
01:35:20,497 --> 01:35:22,465
so you understand, the tracking

2827
01:35:22,465 --> 01:35:25,465
log itself is actually housed

2828
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:27,571
in our Microsoft Teams under a

2829
01:35:27,571 --> 01:35:29,706
OneDrive, under the OneDrive

2830
01:35:29,706 --> 01:35:31,107
account, and is shared to all

2831
01:35:31,107 --> 01:35:32,943
staff for visibility. It

2832
01:35:32,943 --> 01:35:35,812
includes both current and past

2833
01:35:35,812 --> 01:35:37,614
proposal for easy reference. In

2834
01:35:37,614 --> 01:35:40,614
addition, just to add, we've

2835
01:35:41,500 --> 01:35:42,519
added a new process to this

2836
01:35:42,519 --> 01:35:44,488
entire process, which is called

2837
01:35:44,488 --> 01:35:46,220
a closeout memo. So when an

2838
01:35:46,220 --> 01:35:47,390
item goes through the entire

2839
01:35:47,390 --> 01:35:50,390
process and an ordinance gets

2840
01:35:51,661 --> 01:35:53,829
amended or a a program gets

2841
01:35:53,829 --> 01:35:57,100
launched, we then send a memo

2842
01:35:57,100 --> 01:35:58,869
out to formally request closing

2843
01:35:58,869 --> 01:36:00,704
out that item and concluding

2844
01:36:00,704 --> 01:36:02,839
that item from the act of

2845
01:36:02,839 --> 01:36:06,430
tracking log. And it's put on a

2846
01:36:06,430 --> 01:36:07,477
concluded log list. This helps

2847
01:36:07,477 --> 01:36:09,679
with and it has will help us

2848
01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:11,810
with transparency and

2849
01:36:11,810 --> 01:36:13,810
accountability through this

2850
01:36:13,983 --> 01:36:16,119
process. There are currently 18

2851
01:36:16,119 --> 01:36:18,519
active council proposals being

2852
01:36:18,655 --> 01:36:20,490
worked on and tracked, and

2853
01:36:20,490 --> 01:36:22,992
today we will just be reviewing

2854
01:36:22,992 --> 01:36:26,592
the three from the 18. And you

2855
01:36:27,330 --> 01:36:28,298
all have copies of a large

2856
01:36:28,298 --> 01:36:30,100
spreadsheet here. And there's

2857
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:32,670
copies for the community behind

2858
01:36:32,670 --> 01:36:34,905
me if they're interested. So

2859
01:36:34,905 --> 01:36:36,640
we'll start with the first item

2860
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,441
you'll see on the far left what

2861
01:36:38,441 --> 01:36:40,243
happens is the log or the

2862
01:36:40,243 --> 01:36:42,643
council proposal gets assigned

2863
01:36:43,146 --> 01:36:46,148
a number. And this number is it

2864
01:36:46,148 --> 01:36:48,518
marks the year 2025. And it's

2865
01:36:48,518 --> 01:36:50,620
the first one of 2025. It was

2866
01:36:50,620 --> 01:36:53,200
submit date was actually

2867
01:36:53,190 --> 01:36:55,691
JANUARY 31st of 2025. And the

2868
01:36:55,691 --> 01:36:57,527
subject item is the authorizing

2869
01:36:57,527 --> 01:36:58,928
staff to begin the process of

2870
01:36:58,928 --> 01:37:00,197
creating a mechanism to fund

2871
01:37:00,197 --> 01:37:02,197
community infrastructure that

2872
01:37:02,532 --> 01:37:03,600
boosts tourism markets, North

2873
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,340
Natomas, and improves

2874
01:37:05,340 --> 01:37:07,434
opportunities for hotels and

2875
01:37:08,338 --> 01:37:10,338
businesses. This council

2876
01:37:11,174 --> 01:37:13,174
sponsors included Councilmember

2877
01:37:13,710 --> 01:37:15,445
Kaplan and Plucky Bomb, and our

2878
01:37:15,445 --> 01:37:16,913
department lead is Office of

2879
01:37:16,913 --> 01:37:18,448
Innovation, Economic

2880
01:37:18,448 --> 01:37:19,883
Development and the Finance

2881
01:37:19,883 --> 01:37:21,510
Department. The mayor. This

2882
01:37:21,510 --> 01:37:22,853
gives you several times. When

2883
01:37:22,853 --> 01:37:23,887
the mayor did review. There's

2884
01:37:23,887 --> 01:37:25,788
some refinements, as you can

2885
01:37:25,788 --> 01:37:27,230
see in the status notes to the

2886
01:37:27,230 --> 01:37:28,825
far right, this. This

2887
01:37:28,825 --> 01:37:30,593
particular proposal idea had

2888
01:37:30,593 --> 01:37:33,229
lots of refinements, kind of

2889
01:37:33,229 --> 01:37:35,899
some some some tweaks along the

2890
01:37:35,899 --> 01:37:38,201
way. But the mayor reviewed it

2891
01:37:38,201 --> 01:37:42,710
a few times. It went to Law and

2892
01:37:42,710 --> 01:37:45,671
Ledge in AUGUST 26th of 2025 to

2893
01:37:45,742 --> 01:37:47,544
budget not my apologies. And

2894
01:37:47,544 --> 01:37:49,450
meanwhile, what's happening? If

2895
01:37:49,450 --> 01:37:50,880
you go to the far right where

2896
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:52,820
my status notes are, I always

2897
01:37:52,820 --> 01:37:54,170
start with the item that's the

2898
01:37:54,170 --> 01:37:56,720
most recent. So the date this

2899
01:37:56,720 --> 01:38:00,320
was last updated was MAY 18th

2900
01:38:00,857 --> 01:38:02,993
of 2026, and there has been a

2901
01:38:02,993 --> 01:38:05,393
meeting with the hoteliers

2902
01:38:05,528 --> 01:38:08,230
visit. Sac is deeply involved

2903
01:38:08,230 --> 01:38:10,567
in this process. And so they're

2904
01:38:10,567 --> 01:38:12,702
moving towards an assessment

2905
01:38:12,702 --> 01:38:15,500
and looking at building out an

2906
01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:17,400
assessment for this work. But

2907
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:18,508
if you go again down, you can

2908
01:38:18,508 --> 01:38:20,760
see all the different dates and

2909
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:21,378
times that staff reached out.

2910
01:38:21,378 --> 01:38:24,280
And maybe when there were

2911
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:26,416
pauses or questions being asked.

2912
01:38:26,416 --> 01:38:29,351
And so this particular item is

2913
01:38:29,351 --> 01:38:31,870
moving along. If there's any

2914
01:38:31,870 --> 01:38:34,687
questions on that item, do my

2915
01:38:35,791 --> 01:38:38,995
best. No. Okay. The next item

2916
01:38:38,995 --> 01:38:41,264
we have here, submit date was

2917
01:38:41,264 --> 01:38:44,264
OCTOBER of 2025. This is a

2918
01:38:44,467 --> 01:38:46,869
request for illegal dumping. It

2919
01:38:46,869 --> 01:38:48,104
was a request for staff to come

2920
01:38:48,104 --> 01:38:49,472
up with a very specific, a

2921
01:38:49,472 --> 01:38:51,141
specific program to address

2922
01:38:51,141 --> 01:38:53,760
illegal dumping issues that we

2923
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:54,677
see citywide. We do address our

2924
01:38:54,677 --> 01:38:56,813
illegal dumping and one offs,

2925
01:38:56,813 --> 01:38:58,281
but this is asking staff to to

2926
01:38:58,281 --> 01:38:59,315
look at the numbers, understand

2927
01:38:59,315 --> 01:39:02,915
what's going on, and come back

2928
01:39:03,186 --> 01:39:04,754
with an overall program,

2929
01:39:04,754 --> 01:39:06,356
looking at being more efficient

2930
01:39:06,356 --> 01:39:08,756
and comprehensive in our

2931
01:39:08,824 --> 01:39:09,959
approach. And this and Council

2932
01:39:09,959 --> 01:39:11,561
Member Dickinson, you can

2933
01:39:11,561 --> 01:39:13,596
correct me if I'm wrong on any

2934
01:39:13,596 --> 01:39:14,997
of those details, but you are a

2935
01:39:14,997 --> 01:39:16,332
sponsor as well as Council

2936
01:39:16,332 --> 01:39:19,332
Member Vang and Council member

2937
01:39:20,303 --> 01:39:22,905
Maple, and the department lead

2938
01:39:22,905 --> 01:39:24,207
is our recycling and solid

2939
01:39:24,207 --> 01:39:25,442
waste, but it does include many

2940
01:39:25,442 --> 01:39:27,811
other departments that are

2941
01:39:27,811 --> 01:39:29,379
involved actually in developing

2942
01:39:29,379 --> 01:39:31,514
this program. But our lead

2943
01:39:31,514 --> 01:39:32,849
person is in recycling and

2944
01:39:32,849 --> 01:39:35,518
solid waste. The mayor reviewed

2945
01:39:35,518 --> 01:39:37,454
it on NOVEMBER, and then it

2946
01:39:37,454 --> 01:39:39,388
went to be an a on the third.

2947
01:39:39,388 --> 01:39:42,240
Now, you'll notice on this that

2948
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,260
the Council on the Legislative

2949
01:39:44,260 --> 01:39:46,329
Body review to the far right,

2950
01:39:46,329 --> 01:39:47,629
the council column is

2951
01:39:47,629 --> 01:39:48,698
highlighted in green because

2952
01:39:48,698 --> 01:39:50,632
when it's done, it's going to

2953
01:39:50,632 --> 01:39:52,368
go to council next. So that's

2954
01:39:52,368 --> 01:39:54,137
an indicator as to why. You

2955
01:39:54,137 --> 01:39:56,673
know, that column is green. And

2956
01:39:56,673 --> 01:39:58,541
the last update I got was on

2957
01:39:58,541 --> 01:39:59,575
MAY 16th. And they are

2958
01:39:59,575 --> 01:40:00,710
finishing up their data

2959
01:40:00,710 --> 01:40:02,710
collection. And they're

2960
01:40:02,879 --> 01:40:04,460
beginning their analysis.

2961
01:40:04,460 --> 01:40:07,460
They're, they're hoping to come

2962
01:40:07,217 --> 01:40:08,651
back in the fall. And all of

2963
01:40:08,651 --> 01:40:10,787
this is listed, all the dates

2964
01:40:10,787 --> 01:40:12,422
are up to date on, you know,

2965
01:40:12,422 --> 01:40:13,623
where it's been and where it's

2966
01:40:13,623 --> 01:40:16,626
headed. So it's, it's on its

2967
01:40:16,626 --> 01:40:18,228
way.

2968
01:40:18,228 --> 01:40:19,963
>> I just have a quick process.

2969
01:40:19,963 --> 01:40:21,731
That's okay. Michael Benjamin

2970
01:40:21,731 --> 01:40:23,666
my office no longer works there.

2971
01:40:23,666 --> 01:40:25,134
And so we'll talk offline about

2972
01:40:25,134 --> 01:40:26,302
who the best person for my team

2973
01:40:26,302 --> 01:40:28,400
is to connect. Thanks.

2974
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:29,405
>> Thank you.

2975
01:40:29,405 --> 01:40:30,600
>> Well, we're on that one, MR.

2976
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:30,540
Chair.

2977
01:40:30,540 --> 01:40:32,142
>> Okay.

2978
01:40:32,142 --> 01:40:34,100
>> I think I, I think I made

2979
01:40:34,100 --> 01:40:35,978
the motion on moving that one

2980
01:40:35,978 --> 01:40:37,981
and asked to be listed as a

2981
01:40:37,981 --> 01:40:38,314
co-sponsor. That's that's all

2982
01:40:38,314 --> 01:40:40,314
clarification.

2983
01:40:42,819 --> 01:40:44,860
>> Well, I will definitely.

2984
01:40:44,860 --> 01:40:46,756
>> Add that. And I will mention

2985
01:40:46,756 --> 01:40:48,524
that I do have monthly meetings

2986
01:40:48,524 --> 01:40:49,625
now with each of your staff

2987
01:40:49,625 --> 01:40:51,193
scheduled and will be ongoing.

2988
01:40:51,193 --> 01:40:53,329
So this will always be one of

2989
01:40:53,329 --> 01:40:55,640
the items that I just bring up.

2990
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:56,766
So it's just going to be

2991
01:40:56,766 --> 01:40:58,601
something we naturally talk

2992
01:40:58,601 --> 01:41:00,136
about more often. And I

2993
01:41:00,136 --> 01:41:01,470
understand I'm becoming a bit

2994
01:41:01,470 --> 01:41:03,139
more. Maybe I'll be coming to

2995
01:41:03,139 --> 01:41:04,374
budget a little bit more so we

2996
01:41:04,374 --> 01:41:06,750
can just keep tracking these

2997
01:41:06,750 --> 01:41:07,276
and moving them along and

2998
01:41:07,276 --> 01:41:09,412
making sure the data and the

2999
01:41:09,412 --> 01:41:11,581
information is correct. Okay.

3000
01:41:11,581 --> 01:41:13,549
And the final one we have here

3001
01:41:13,549 --> 01:41:16,519
is an item that came and submit

3002
01:41:16,519 --> 01:41:18,821
date of NOVEMBER of 2025. And

3003
01:41:18,821 --> 01:41:20,256
this is district two, Enhanced

3004
01:41:20,256 --> 01:41:22,580
Infrastructure financing.

3005
01:41:22,580 --> 01:41:23,559
District and council sponsors

3006
01:41:23,559 --> 01:41:25,280
were Council member Dickinson,

3007
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:26,796
Vice Mayor Telemontes, Council

3008
01:41:26,796 --> 01:41:28,965
member Maple and Council member

3009
01:41:28,965 --> 01:41:31,000
Gada. And this was assigned to

3010
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,570
our Office of Innovation and

3011
01:41:33,570 --> 01:41:35,772
Economic Development and our

3012
01:41:35,772 --> 01:41:37,941
Finance department. This item

3013
01:41:37,941 --> 01:41:41,541
has gone through went to to

3014
01:41:42,245 --> 01:41:45,245
budget audit in DECEMBER of

3015
01:41:45,448 --> 01:41:47,583
2025, no. 2026 and went to

3016
01:41:47,583 --> 01:41:49,485
council this spring. So what I

3017
01:41:49,485 --> 01:41:52,355
understand is that we are doing

3018
01:41:52,355 --> 01:41:54,757
some fiscal analysis right now,

3019
01:41:54,757 --> 01:41:57,260
which is three months of work

3020
01:41:57,260 --> 01:41:59,362
was what the estimate was, and

3021
01:41:59,362 --> 01:42:01,964
then we'll be bringing it back

3022
01:42:01,964 --> 01:42:03,533
to council as soon as we can.

3023
01:42:03,533 --> 01:42:05,201
>> Yes, as soon as we can.

3024
01:42:05,201 --> 01:42:07,303
>> As soon as we can be.

3025
01:42:07,303 --> 01:42:09,303
>> Tracking that.

3026
01:42:10,573 --> 01:42:12,973
>> Underlined. Okay, Amy. Thank

3027
01:42:13,509 --> 01:42:14,910
you, Vice Mayor.

3028
01:42:14,910 --> 01:42:16,412
>> So is this going to become

3029
01:42:16,412 --> 01:42:18,412
the new process.

3030
01:42:18,581 --> 01:42:20,683
>> Where you come to budget and

3031
01:42:20,683 --> 01:42:22,585
audit to present where we're at

3032
01:42:22,585 --> 01:42:23,285
on all these policies that we

3033
01:42:23,285 --> 01:42:25,221
have passed?

3034
01:42:25,221 --> 01:42:26,588
>> I, I don't know, I haven't

3035
01:42:26,588 --> 01:42:28,190
been directed to, but Lore and

3036
01:42:28,190 --> 01:42:29,425
Legend directed me to do that.

3037
01:42:29,425 --> 01:42:31,193
So I would just assuming that

3038
01:42:31,193 --> 01:42:32,328
that would be the case here.

3039
01:42:32,328 --> 01:42:34,630
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's

3040
01:42:34,630 --> 01:42:35,331
great because, because I'm not

3041
01:42:35,331 --> 01:42:36,365
on lore. And so it's great to

3042
01:42:36,365 --> 01:42:37,300
hear like an update.

3043
01:42:37,300 --> 01:42:39,267
>> But yeah, so.

3044
01:42:39,267 --> 01:42:41,104
>> I think both the chair of

3045
01:42:41,104 --> 01:42:42,270
law and legislation as well as

3046
01:42:42,270 --> 01:42:43,806
I think it's very helpful to

3047
01:42:43,806 --> 01:42:46,275
have these presentations on a

3048
01:42:46,275 --> 01:42:48,478
periodic basis, on a regular

3049
01:42:48,478 --> 01:42:50,878
basis, even though this

3050
01:42:50,913 --> 01:42:53,313
information is accessible in

3051
01:42:54,250 --> 01:42:55,618
teams. It's it has a home there,

3052
01:42:55,618 --> 01:42:58,521
which I will admit I didn't

3053
01:42:58,521 --> 01:42:59,588
know before. We had a similar

3054
01:42:59,588 --> 01:43:00,757
presentation at the Law and

3055
01:43:00,757 --> 01:43:02,558
Legislation Committee. So we

3056
01:43:02,558 --> 01:43:03,726
can look at it any time, but I

3057
01:43:03,726 --> 01:43:05,627
think it's still helpful, both

3058
01:43:05,627 --> 01:43:07,897
for us and the public to have

3059
01:43:07,897 --> 01:43:10,399
these these routine updates on

3060
01:43:10,399 --> 01:43:11,534
on how the proposals are

3061
01:43:11,534 --> 01:43:12,735
progressing.

3062
01:43:12,735 --> 01:43:14,537
>> Well, like, are we going to

3063
01:43:14,537 --> 01:43:15,538
do this quarterly or every

3064
01:43:15,538 --> 01:43:15,838
other month? Or what's.

3065
01:43:15,838 --> 01:43:17,673
>> The plan?

3066
01:43:17,673 --> 01:43:18,841
>> I'm trying to remember what

3067
01:43:18,841 --> 01:43:20,709
were we talking about quarterly?

3068
01:43:20,709 --> 01:43:22,545
>> Well, I can tell you what we

3069
01:43:22,545 --> 01:43:23,779
have done at Lore and Ledge,

3070
01:43:23,779 --> 01:43:25,547
which was we I think it was

3071
01:43:25,547 --> 01:43:26,682
quarterly. It was what we

3072
01:43:26,682 --> 01:43:27,917
landed on. Yep. Just to make

3073
01:43:27,917 --> 01:43:29,552
sure that everyone's updated in

3074
01:43:29,552 --> 01:43:30,620
public about how things are

3075
01:43:30,620 --> 01:43:31,821
moving, but not necessarily so

3076
01:43:31,821 --> 01:43:33,523
much so that, you know, you're

3077
01:43:33,523 --> 01:43:33,889
getting the same updates over

3078
01:43:33,889 --> 01:43:34,723
and over again.

3079
01:43:34,723 --> 01:43:35,758
>> Yeah, yeah.

3080
01:43:35,758 --> 01:43:37,693
>> That's a great plan.

3081
01:43:37,693 --> 01:43:39,162
>> I think that's the, the, the

3082
01:43:39,162 --> 01:43:40,596
plan is quarterly.

3083
01:43:40,596 --> 01:43:42,798
>> Okay, great. Thank you.

3084
01:43:42,798 --> 01:43:45,798
>> Any other questions for Amy

3085
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:48,604
or comments? Thank you Amy. Who

3086
01:43:48,604 --> 01:43:50,539
keep them keep them moving. And

3087
01:43:50,539 --> 01:43:51,774
do we have some members of the

3088
01:43:51,774 --> 01:43:51,974
public who wish to address this

3089
01:43:51,974 --> 01:43:53,909
item?

3090
01:43:53,909 --> 01:43:56,445
>> Yes. I have five speakers.

3091
01:43:56,445 --> 01:43:58,445
Lambert, Douglas McPherson,

3092
01:44:00,516 --> 01:44:03,516
Gail Silva, Greg Chapman and

3093
01:44:09,792 --> 01:44:11,792
Ann Amato.

3094
01:44:12,227 --> 01:44:14,960
>> This is outstanding. This

3095
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:16,665
long paperwork that they gave

3096
01:44:16,665 --> 01:44:18,433
us because it gave me an

3097
01:44:18,433 --> 01:44:20,937
opportunity to comment on who's

3098
01:44:20,937 --> 01:44:22,438
on here. Now. We it's been me

3099
01:44:22,438 --> 01:44:24,640
who actually brought up that

3100
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:27,900
we're concerned about MR. Baum

3101
01:44:27,900 --> 01:44:30,746
not being on the rostrum a lot.

3102
01:44:30,746 --> 01:44:32,848
He's late. He leaves a lot, and

3103
01:44:32,848 --> 01:44:33,917
he shouldn't be part of any

3104
01:44:33,917 --> 01:44:35,985
sponsorship till he tightens

3105
01:44:35,985 --> 01:44:38,220
that up. So a lot of people

3106
01:44:38,220 --> 01:44:41,157
watching his behavior, by the

3107
01:44:41,157 --> 01:44:42,858
way, now on district two, I

3108
01:44:42,858 --> 01:44:44,627
like the people that are

3109
01:44:44,627 --> 01:44:47,270
connected with that. MR.

3110
01:44:47,897 --> 01:44:49,897
Dickinson, Vice Mayor

3111
01:44:50,466 --> 01:44:51,901
Telemontes Maple and Guerra. I

3112
01:44:51,901 --> 01:44:54,103
know they care about district

3113
01:44:54,103 --> 01:44:55,538
two, so they should be able to

3114
01:44:55,538 --> 01:44:57,206
get a lot of things

3115
01:44:57,206 --> 01:44:59,206
accomplished. Now, what

3116
01:45:00,876 --> 01:45:03,779
concerns me about that is that

3117
01:45:03,779 --> 01:45:05,779
somebody mentioned the

3118
01:45:06,983 --> 01:45:09,383
Department of Economic and

3119
01:45:09,885 --> 01:45:11,687
Innovation. That department,

3120
01:45:11,687 --> 01:45:13,788
during measure u. And I went to

3121
01:45:13,788 --> 01:45:17,388
a lot of measure u commissions.

3122
01:45:18,493 --> 01:45:21,364
They did not properly allow the

3123
01:45:21,364 --> 01:45:23,899
measure u Commission to q and a

3124
01:45:23,899 --> 01:45:26,670
them that's a violation of the

3125
01:45:26,670 --> 01:45:27,536
Brown Act. They should have.

3126
01:45:27,536 --> 01:45:30,390
And when MRS. Dickerson was

3127
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:32,575
here, we never had that problem

3128
01:45:32,575 --> 01:45:34,409
because she knew the procedures

3129
01:45:34,409 --> 01:45:36,178
and minty was not there that

3130
01:45:36,178 --> 01:45:38,781
night. So that's why they

3131
01:45:38,781 --> 01:45:39,882
panicked. And they let that

3132
01:45:39,882 --> 01:45:41,984
department. And by the way,

3133
01:45:41,984 --> 01:45:44,984
that department receives a lot

3134
01:45:45,888 --> 01:45:48,570
of economics from measure u.

3135
01:45:48,570 --> 01:45:50,992
They receive a lot of money.

3136
01:45:50,992 --> 01:45:54,196
And and guess what? I was

3137
01:45:54,196 --> 01:45:56,300
scheduled to speak to them and

3138
01:45:56,300 --> 01:45:57,800
ask for. And the rest of them

3139
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,535
panicked and they decided,

3140
01:45:59,535 --> 01:46:02,438
we'll let the last nine minutes

3141
01:46:02,438 --> 01:46:03,840
of the commission go to that

3142
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:05,674
department. And they didn't.

3143
01:46:05,674 --> 01:46:07,476
Nobody had a chance to talk to

3144
01:46:07,476 --> 01:46:09,612
them, so they should have to

3145
01:46:09,612 --> 01:46:10,712
come back in front of the

3146
01:46:10,712 --> 01:46:12,712
committee before.

3147
01:46:19,210 --> 01:46:19,822
>> Next speaker is Douglas.

3148
01:46:19,822 --> 01:46:21,230
>> Good afternoon.

3149
01:46:21,230 --> 01:46:22,725
>> Good afternoon. Thank you,

3150
01:46:22,725 --> 01:46:24,590
Chair Dickinson and members,

3151
01:46:24,590 --> 01:46:25,194
for letting me speak this

3152
01:46:25,194 --> 01:46:26,261
afternoon. It's not morning any

3153
01:46:26,261 --> 01:46:28,290
longer. My name is Doug

3154
01:46:28,290 --> 01:46:29,131
McPherson. I live in Midtown.

3155
01:46:29,131 --> 01:46:31,660
I'm here to advocate for a

3156
01:46:31,660 --> 01:46:33,402
public bank in Sacramento. As

3157
01:46:33,402 --> 01:46:36,400
you know, this body approved

3158
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:37,272
$250,000 in MAY of 2023 for the

3159
01:46:37,272 --> 01:46:38,473
completion of a viability study

3160
01:46:38,473 --> 01:46:40,308
and business plan for public

3161
01:46:40,308 --> 01:46:42,545
bank. That money was put on

3162
01:46:42,545 --> 01:46:43,946
hold. A public bank is needed

3163
01:46:43,946 --> 01:46:44,913
now more than ever in

3164
01:46:44,913 --> 01:46:47,150
Sacramento, given the budget

3165
01:46:47,150 --> 01:46:48,584
deficits, federal rollbacks and

3166
01:46:48,584 --> 01:46:49,985
deep cuts in housing and

3167
01:46:49,985 --> 01:46:52,154
climate funding that we are

3168
01:46:52,154 --> 01:46:53,722
experiencing. I know this is a

3169
01:46:53,722 --> 01:46:55,424
tight time for budgets, but I

3170
01:46:55,424 --> 01:46:56,892
believe that our team of public

3171
01:46:56,892 --> 01:46:58,260
bank advocates from our

3172
01:46:58,260 --> 01:46:59,995
community have found sources

3173
01:46:59,995 --> 01:47:01,130
for these funds, which we have

3174
01:47:01,130 --> 01:47:02,932
shared with you in written

3175
01:47:02,932 --> 01:47:04,767
comment and would not affect

3176
01:47:04,767 --> 01:47:06,935
staffing. I would ask that you

3177
01:47:06,935 --> 01:47:08,136
reintroduce the $250,000 into

3178
01:47:08,136 --> 01:47:09,738
this year's fiscal budget,

3179
01:47:09,738 --> 01:47:11,873
given that it was a great idea

3180
01:47:11,873 --> 01:47:13,709
in 2023, and it's an even

3181
01:47:13,709 --> 01:47:15,544
better idea today. And, Chair

3182
01:47:15,544 --> 01:47:16,945
Dickenson, I would ask that you

3183
01:47:16,945 --> 01:47:18,460
agendize this topic on future

3184
01:47:18,460 --> 01:47:20,382
budget and audit committee

3185
01:47:20,382 --> 01:47:21,483
meetings. Thank you so much for

3186
01:47:21,483 --> 01:47:24,483
your time. I appreciate it.

3187
01:47:26,655 --> 01:47:28,424
>> Thanks, speaker.

3188
01:47:28,424 --> 01:47:30,259
>> Thank you, chair, members of

3189
01:47:30,259 --> 01:47:31,427
this committee for the

3190
01:47:31,427 --> 01:47:33,628
opportunity to speak. My name

3191
01:47:33,628 --> 01:47:34,896
is Goldie Saba. I'm a volunteer

3192
01:47:34,896 --> 01:47:37,199
with Sacramento Public Bank

3193
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:38,901
project of sac and Sacramento

3194
01:47:38,901 --> 01:47:40,703
Climate Coalition. As you're

3195
01:47:40,703 --> 01:47:42,905
aware, funding for an rfq, as

3196
01:47:42,905 --> 01:47:45,305
my husband mentioned, was

3197
01:47:45,341 --> 01:47:47,976
passed unanimously by by the

3198
01:47:47,976 --> 01:47:49,310
Budget Audit Committee. You

3199
01:47:49,310 --> 01:47:50,612
already know that the community

3200
01:47:50,612 --> 01:47:53,120
members and organizations have

3201
01:47:53,748 --> 01:47:55,217
been working for preparing for

3202
01:47:55,217 --> 01:47:56,952
early on in this budget process

3203
01:47:56,952 --> 01:48:00,552
to reissue funding for the sac

3204
01:48:00,756 --> 01:48:03,425
public Bank rfq in MARCH 20th,

3205
01:48:03,425 --> 01:48:04,559
the MARCH 24th, the mayor and

3206
01:48:04,559 --> 01:48:06,662
Council were supportive and the

3207
01:48:06,662 --> 01:48:09,164
mayor asked for a timeline of

3208
01:48:09,164 --> 01:48:10,666
the past rfq and said that you

3209
01:48:10,666 --> 01:48:12,401
would determine whether to

3210
01:48:12,401 --> 01:48:13,902
place it on the agenda, on the

3211
01:48:13,902 --> 01:48:16,500
Council or the Budget and Audit

3212
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:17,773
Committee. Just last week, the

3213
01:48:17,773 --> 01:48:19,907
treasurer responded to us

3214
01:48:19,907 --> 01:48:21,477
stating that he had no

3215
01:48:21,477 --> 01:48:22,845
reservations based on his

3216
01:48:22,845 --> 01:48:23,911
interest or time on this

3217
01:48:23,911 --> 01:48:25,546
project, but just mentioned

3218
01:48:25,546 --> 01:48:27,215
that no council member had

3219
01:48:27,215 --> 01:48:30,850
submitted this in their budget

3220
01:48:30,850 --> 01:48:31,854
request. So here's our ask. We

3221
01:48:31,854 --> 01:48:33,288
request this committee to

3222
01:48:33,288 --> 01:48:34,789
reaffirm their previous

3223
01:48:34,789 --> 01:48:37,189
commitment with another motion

3224
01:48:37,259 --> 01:48:39,940
to place the 250,000 for an rfq

3225
01:48:39,940 --> 01:48:41,263
for a viability and business

3226
01:48:41,263 --> 01:48:43,198
plan on this year's budget. Of

3227
01:48:43,198 --> 01:48:45,466
all of the budget asks, this is

3228
01:48:45,466 --> 01:48:47,135
the 1 or 1 of the few that,

3229
01:48:47,135 --> 01:48:49,204
when functioning, can actually

3230
01:48:49,204 --> 01:48:50,572
bring back millions and

3231
01:48:50,572 --> 01:48:52,274
multiply our precious tax

3232
01:48:52,274 --> 01:48:54,509
dollars to help fund our

3233
01:48:54,509 --> 01:48:56,310
community's needs, we

3234
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:58,800
understand that this is a

3235
01:48:58,800 --> 01:48:59,181
deficit budget year, and that's

3236
01:48:59,181 --> 01:49:01,316
why we've researched and

3237
01:49:01,316 --> 01:49:03,850
submitted a document with

3238
01:49:03,850 --> 01:49:04,686
multiple options. There's a, b,

3239
01:49:04,686 --> 01:49:06,880
and c. I'm not going to go

3240
01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:07,856
through the whole thing with

3241
01:49:07,856 --> 01:49:09,958
you, but just to mention that b

3242
01:49:09,958 --> 01:49:14,158
and c do not involve any sort

3243
01:49:14,329 --> 01:49:16,865
of cutting from any staffing. B

3244
01:49:16,865 --> 01:49:18,633
basically takes it says,

3245
01:49:18,633 --> 01:49:19,802
earmarking funds from community

3246
01:49:19,802 --> 01:49:22,360
reinvestment grants. There was

3247
01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:23,672
a we would take 250,000 from

3248
01:49:23,672 --> 01:49:25,441
the California Natural

3249
01:49:25,441 --> 01:49:27,441
Resources Agency Community

3250
01:49:27,609 --> 01:49:28,877
Reinvestment Project.

3251
01:49:28,877 --> 01:49:30,111
>> Thank you for your comments.

3252
01:49:30,111 --> 01:49:33,111
Your time is complete. Next

3253
01:49:34,283 --> 01:49:35,317
speaker is Greg. Then an. Thank

3254
01:49:35,317 --> 01:49:36,151
you for your comments.

3255
01:49:36,151 --> 01:49:38,860
>> Thank you.

3256
01:49:38,860 --> 01:49:40,860
>> Thank you.

3257
01:49:50,732 --> 01:49:51,833
>> Is Greg here? No. Animoto.

3258
01:49:51,833 --> 01:49:53,833
>> Good afternoon.

3259
01:49:53,969 --> 01:49:55,103
>> Good afternoon.

3260
01:49:55,103 --> 01:49:56,471
>> Members of the Audit and

3261
01:49:56,471 --> 01:49:58,240
Budget Committee. I'm an

3262
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,800
amateur. I'm a retired social

3263
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:01,944
worker and member of the

3264
01:50:01,944 --> 01:50:03,944
Sacramento Climate Coalition

3265
01:50:04,346 --> 01:50:05,914
and their public bank project.

3266
01:50:05,914 --> 01:50:07,983
I'm here to ask your support

3267
01:50:07,983 --> 01:50:09,840
for the public bank for

3268
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:11,840
Sacramento. While you're

3269
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:13,355
looking at budget cuts, I

3270
01:50:13,355 --> 01:50:15,491
recognize that you can save the

3271
01:50:15,491 --> 01:50:19,600
city a great deal of money

3272
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:21,460
while addressing urgent needs

3273
01:50:21,997 --> 01:50:23,798
with establishing a public bank.

3274
01:50:23,798 --> 01:50:24,599
The public bank can offer small

3275
01:50:24,599 --> 01:50:26,668
business loans to those that

3276
01:50:26,668 --> 01:50:29,171
are unable to obtain them from

3277
01:50:29,171 --> 01:50:31,340
big banks. Funding to offer low

3278
01:50:31,340 --> 01:50:32,741
cost loans for affordable

3279
01:50:32,741 --> 01:50:33,942
housing, funds for other

3280
01:50:33,942 --> 01:50:36,342
improvements for our community,

3281
01:50:37,790 --> 01:50:38,614
like addressing homelessness.

3282
01:50:38,614 --> 01:50:40,415
Public bank can offer low cost

3283
01:50:40,415 --> 01:50:42,149
lines of credit. Keep public

3284
01:50:42,149 --> 01:50:43,652
interest dollars in the public

3285
01:50:43,652 --> 01:50:45,860
sector so you keep the money in

3286
01:50:45,860 --> 01:50:47,486
the community, rather than

3287
01:50:47,922 --> 01:50:51,522
going to Wall Street and to

3288
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:52,961
reduce overall borrowing costs.

3289
01:50:52,961 --> 01:50:55,361
Currently, my understanding is

3290
01:50:55,463 --> 01:50:57,566
that 50% of the cost of a bond

3291
01:50:57,566 --> 01:51:00,135
measure goes to interest, and

3292
01:51:00,135 --> 01:51:01,603
that money goes to Wall Street

3293
01:51:01,603 --> 01:51:03,305
Public Bank and assist in

3294
01:51:03,305 --> 01:51:04,773
funding bonding measures, offer

3295
01:51:04,773 --> 01:51:06,773
underwriting issuance, bridge

3296
01:51:08,143 --> 01:51:10,512
loans for local projects, and

3297
01:51:10,512 --> 01:51:13,810
all this saves the city an

3298
01:51:13,810 --> 01:51:14,516
interest and underwriting fees.

3299
01:51:14,516 --> 01:51:17,516
Let's keep the interest money

3300
01:51:17,686 --> 01:51:19,187
in our community. I ask you to

3301
01:51:19,187 --> 01:51:22,187
please support the public bank

3302
01:51:22,457 --> 01:51:24,626
and the funding that we need to

3303
01:51:24,626 --> 01:51:26,427
do the viability and

3304
01:51:26,427 --> 01:51:28,196
feasibility study the business

3305
01:51:28,196 --> 01:51:29,798
plan as well. Thank you.

3306
01:51:29,798 --> 01:51:31,632
>> Thank you, chair.

3307
01:51:31,632 --> 01:51:32,340
>> I have no more speakers on

3308
01:51:32,340 --> 01:51:33,802
this agenda item.

3309
01:51:33,802 --> 01:51:34,803
>> Okay. Thank you to all the

3310
01:51:34,803 --> 01:51:36,638
speakers. Councilmember Maple,

3311
01:51:36,638 --> 01:51:37,872
did you want to make a comment.

3312
01:51:37,872 --> 01:51:39,707
>> If I MAY, chair, and I

3313
01:51:39,707 --> 01:51:40,809
recognize this is not on the

3314
01:51:40,809 --> 01:51:42,644
agenda. So obviously we won't

3315
01:51:42,644 --> 01:51:44,120
be able to make any decisions

3316
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:45,781
related to public banking here

3317
01:51:45,781 --> 01:51:47,382
at this meeting. But I do want

3318
01:51:47,382 --> 01:51:48,749
to say, generally speaking,

3319
01:51:48,749 --> 01:51:50,552
that I've met with the

3320
01:51:50,552 --> 01:51:52,754
proponents of this measure, and

3321
01:51:52,754 --> 01:51:54,156
I personally think that this is

3322
01:51:54,156 --> 01:51:56,390
something that is worth

3323
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:57,692
exploring. Absolutely. I do

3324
01:51:57,692 --> 01:51:59,561
recognize the history as well.

3325
01:51:59,561 --> 01:52:00,795
It was before my time on this

3326
01:52:00,795 --> 01:52:02,564
council, but I do know that

3327
01:52:02,564 --> 01:52:03,665
there was a history of of

3328
01:52:03,665 --> 01:52:05,567
allocating money, and it never

3329
01:52:05,567 --> 01:52:06,702
went that way. And there were a

3330
01:52:06,702 --> 01:52:08,570
lot of different reasons behind

3331
01:52:08,570 --> 01:52:09,771
that. So we don't have to get

3332
01:52:09,771 --> 01:52:11,640
into that here. But I also want

3333
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:12,808
to say that there's there's big

3334
01:52:12,808 --> 01:52:15,444
questions to one question for

3335
01:52:15,444 --> 01:52:17,946
me is, you know, the $250,000

3336
01:52:17,946 --> 01:52:19,414
that was from 2023, knowing how

3337
01:52:19,414 --> 01:52:20,515
much costs have gone up, I

3338
01:52:20,515 --> 01:52:22,317
really wonder whether that's

3339
01:52:22,317 --> 01:52:24,586
the actual cost of doing the

3340
01:52:24,586 --> 01:52:26,688
feasibility study now in 2026

3341
01:52:26,688 --> 01:52:27,722
or 2027 versus in 2023. And,

3342
01:52:27,722 --> 01:52:29,124
you know, we're being in

3343
01:52:29,124 --> 01:52:30,525
government, we have seen the

3344
01:52:30,525 --> 01:52:31,392
cost skyrocket on almost

3345
01:52:31,392 --> 01:52:33,395
everything. So that's that's a

3346
01:52:33,395 --> 01:52:35,597
key question. And then two, on

3347
01:52:35,597 --> 01:52:36,364
some of the possible sources, I

3348
01:52:36,364 --> 01:52:37,365
really want to appreciate

3349
01:52:37,365 --> 01:52:39,367
everyone who showed up to speak

3350
01:52:39,367 --> 01:52:40,502
and the work that they put into

3351
01:52:40,502 --> 01:52:42,437
looking into the budget. It's

3352
01:52:42,437 --> 01:52:43,405
not easy to do, but really

3353
01:52:43,405 --> 01:52:45,272
finding ways that we could look

3354
01:52:45,272 --> 01:52:46,374
into, and I think those are

3355
01:52:46,374 --> 01:52:48,210
worth exploring, but we really

3356
01:52:48,210 --> 01:52:49,344
don't have a way of knowing

3357
01:52:49,344 --> 01:52:50,445
right now whether or not those

3358
01:52:50,445 --> 01:52:52,247
are actually grants that we

3359
01:52:52,247 --> 01:52:53,482
could pull from. We'd have to

3360
01:52:53,482 --> 01:52:55,349
do some research into that. And

3361
01:52:55,349 --> 01:52:57,185
so as much as that, you know,

3362
01:52:57,185 --> 01:52:58,319
it MAY be disappointing, my my

3363
01:52:58,319 --> 01:53:00,188
thought is, is that this is

3364
01:53:00,188 --> 01:53:01,189
worth exploring in the in the

3365
01:53:01,189 --> 01:53:02,257
next budget cycle, perhaps

3366
01:53:02,257 --> 01:53:04,225
through budget and audit, if

3367
01:53:04,225 --> 01:53:05,393
you want to do that. Chair. But

3368
01:53:05,393 --> 01:53:07,195
I just I think it would be

3369
01:53:07,195 --> 01:53:08,262
really challenging to try to

3370
01:53:08,262 --> 01:53:09,297
move this forward in the

3371
01:53:09,297 --> 01:53:10,431
current budget process. That's

3372
01:53:10,431 --> 01:53:11,266
just my personal opinion. Thank

3373
01:53:11,266 --> 01:53:12,334
you.

3374
01:53:12,334 --> 01:53:14,734
>> Thanks. Thanks for those

3375
01:53:15,336 --> 01:53:16,938
comments. I would largely agree

3376
01:53:16,938 --> 01:53:19,938
with with them. I appreciate

3377
01:53:20,708 --> 01:53:22,344
the the advocacy. And I think

3378
01:53:22,344 --> 01:53:24,279
there's some conversations that

3379
01:53:24,279 --> 01:53:27,150
that need to occur internally

3380
01:53:27,150 --> 01:53:28,749
to, to, to determine the

3381
01:53:28,749 --> 01:53:30,985
feasibility of. I appreciate

3382
01:53:30,985 --> 01:53:32,620
the fact that you've made

3383
01:53:32,620 --> 01:53:34,523
concrete suggestions rather

3384
01:53:34,523 --> 01:53:36,910
than just asked for something

3385
01:53:36,910 --> 01:53:37,859
you suggested where it could be

3386
01:53:37,859 --> 01:53:40,280
funded from. And that that's a

3387
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:42,428
great, great degree of

3388
01:53:42,497 --> 01:53:45,497
responsibility that many of us

3389
01:53:46,902 --> 01:53:48,670
resist in similar circumstances.

3390
01:53:48,670 --> 01:53:52,270
So this is still a live

3391
01:53:52,574 --> 01:53:53,608
conversation. I think it's also

3392
01:53:53,608 --> 01:53:55,110
instructive to watch what's

3393
01:53:55,110 --> 01:53:57,450
going on in the in San

3394
01:53:57,450 --> 01:53:59,445
Francisco in particular, and

3395
01:54:00,882 --> 01:54:02,317
the Bay area as, as as well,

3396
01:54:02,317 --> 01:54:05,520
which I know has been something

3397
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:08,123
of a of a limitation on the

3398
01:54:08,123 --> 01:54:10,225
feasibility from the Treasury's

3399
01:54:10,225 --> 01:54:12,794
point of view in pursuing this.

3400
01:54:12,794 --> 01:54:14,195
So it is it is not a dead

3401
01:54:14,195 --> 01:54:17,795
letter by any means. And I

3402
01:54:19,734 --> 01:54:21,870
think I think there. Is the

3403
01:54:21,870 --> 01:54:23,538
opportunity to to to talk talk

3404
01:54:23,538 --> 01:54:25,706
about this further, see if it

3405
01:54:25,706 --> 01:54:28,610
fits, see if it fits an agenda

3406
01:54:28,610 --> 01:54:30,612
in the future. And thank you

3407
01:54:30,612 --> 01:54:34,212
again for for being here and

3408
01:54:36,150 --> 01:54:38,286
for being consistent and steady.

3409
01:54:38,286 --> 01:54:41,286
This item requires no action.

3410
01:54:41,923 --> 01:54:43,240
It was a update for us. So

3411
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:44,492
we'll move on to committee

3412
01:54:44,492 --> 01:54:46,892
comments, ideas, questions and

3413
01:54:47,662 --> 01:54:49,597
meeting reports if any. Seeing

3414
01:54:49,597 --> 01:54:51,650
none, do we have any members of

3415
01:54:51,650 --> 01:54:52,734
the public who wish to address

3416
01:54:52,734 --> 01:54:54,502
us on items not on the agenda?

3417
01:54:54,502 --> 01:54:54,736
>> Chair, I have one. Speaker

3418
01:54:54,736 --> 01:54:54,970
Lambert.

3419
01:54:54,970 --> 01:54:56,605
>> Okay.

3420
01:54:56,605 --> 01:54:59,605
>> Speaking on matters, not on

3421
01:55:08,616 --> 01:55:10,616
the agenda.

3422
01:55:11,519 --> 01:55:13,210
>> This one I had to keep notes.

3423
01:55:13,210 --> 01:55:15,323
I normally look up at you, but

3424
01:55:15,323 --> 01:55:16,925
I got to really stay on this to

3425
01:55:16,925 --> 01:55:18,859
get it right. First of all, I'd

3426
01:55:18,859 --> 01:55:20,562
like to send a shout out to

3427
01:55:20,562 --> 01:55:22,962
CHAIRMAN Dickerson for bringing

3428
01:55:24,565 --> 01:55:28,165
up Medi-Cal for people who get

3429
01:55:28,336 --> 01:55:31,740
picked up by fire or ambulance.

3430
01:55:31,740 --> 01:55:33,907
I never knew that. And the city

3431
01:55:33,907 --> 01:55:35,577
should know if they're being

3432
01:55:35,577 --> 01:55:36,878
reimbursed. If they don't,

3433
01:55:36,878 --> 01:55:39,130
people should be reprimanded

3434
01:55:39,130 --> 01:55:40,347
for that. That's a county. You

3435
01:55:40,347 --> 01:55:42,384
should know how much money you

3436
01:55:42,384 --> 01:55:45,384
receive from Medi-Cal when you

3437
01:55:47,689 --> 01:55:49,691
pick people up. Also. There was

3438
01:55:49,691 --> 01:55:51,893
a study done called the

3439
01:55:51,893 --> 01:55:53,861
leadership Group Race Equity,

3440
01:55:53,861 --> 01:55:55,864
and Laney Milstein was part of

3441
01:55:55,864 --> 01:55:59,100
that group, and we were trying

3442
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:01,235
to figure out where the

3443
01:56:01,235 --> 01:56:03,304
$250,000 went. When I asked the

3444
01:56:03,304 --> 01:56:04,772
Race Alliance committee, they

3445
01:56:04,772 --> 01:56:07,342
said they didn't receive any

3446
01:56:07,342 --> 01:56:08,810
money. And one of the main

3447
01:56:08,810 --> 01:56:10,211
reasons why we're having

3448
01:56:10,211 --> 01:56:11,546
problems at City Hall is that

3449
01:56:11,546 --> 01:56:12,747
people are not paying attention

3450
01:56:12,747 --> 01:56:14,982
to people who, like me, who

3451
01:56:14,982 --> 01:56:17,840
come up here to talk. It's very

3452
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:18,820
rude as you learn that as a

3453
01:56:18,820 --> 01:56:20,688
child, to not talk when other

3454
01:56:20,688 --> 01:56:22,724
people are talking, but it's

3455
01:56:22,724 --> 01:56:24,926
being recorded anyway. Last

3456
01:56:24,926 --> 01:56:26,761
time I was here, I mentioned

3457
01:56:26,761 --> 01:56:27,929
about the no written agreement

3458
01:56:27,929 --> 01:56:30,398
about wide open walls, and

3459
01:56:30,398 --> 01:56:32,200
people got emotional when I

3460
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:35,690
started asking the question of

3461
01:56:35,690 --> 01:56:38,690
who wrote the seven checks,

3462
01:56:38,306 --> 01:56:39,907
everybody got quiet. Well, the

3463
01:56:39,907 --> 01:56:41,943
millennials have found out

3464
01:56:41,943 --> 01:56:43,377
where those checks came from,

3465
01:56:43,377 --> 01:56:44,712
and I don't have time to

3466
01:56:44,712 --> 01:56:46,214
announce it today. But it's

3467
01:56:46,214 --> 01:56:48,749
coming and it's going to shock

3468
01:56:48,749 --> 01:56:50,184
a lot of people where those

3469
01:56:50,184 --> 01:56:53,784
checks came from. We know where

3470
01:56:56,990 --> 01:57:00,590
they came from. Now also. This

3471
01:57:00,995 --> 01:57:03,970
race, this measure you

3472
01:57:03,970 --> 01:57:05,320
innovation and economics, they

3473
01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:07,502
should not get funded until

3474
01:57:07,502 --> 01:57:08,468
they go in front of the measure

3475
01:57:08,468 --> 01:57:10,438
you commission.

3476
01:57:10,438 --> 01:57:11,773
>> I thank you for your

3477
01:57:11,773 --> 01:57:14,208
comments. We have no one else

3478
01:57:14,208 --> 01:57:16,440
to address us on matters, not

3479
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:17,511
on the agenda. So we're going

3480
01:57:17,511 --> 01:57:19,380
to adjourn into closed session.

3481
01:57:19,380 --> 01:57:21,249
If we get one more member of

3482
01:57:21,249 --> 01:57:22,550
the council to join us.

3483
01:57:22,550 --> 01:57:23,785
>> Yes. Thank you, chair. If we

3484
01:57:23,785 --> 01:57:25,520
can get one more council member

3485
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:26,521
to join us, we will then

3486
01:57:26,521 --> 01:57:27,655
adjourn this meeting directly

3487
01:57:27,655 --> 01:57:28,957
into closed session rather than

3488
01:57:28,957 --> 01:57:29,524
having to call to order that

3489
01:57:29,524 --> 01:57:30,758
meeting.

3490
01:57:30,758 --> 01:57:33,795
>> And we're going to let the

3491
01:57:33,795 --> 01:57:36,795
auditor staff go have lunch.

3492
01:57:37,398 --> 01:57:37,699
Thank you.

3493
01:57:37,699 --> 01:57:38,533
>> Okay.

3494
01:57:38,533 --> 01:57:40,533
>> Can you guys.

3495
01:57:41,235 --> 01:57:44,235
>> Go to the. Session talking

3496
01:57:49,544 --> 01:57:50,745
about thank you, thank you. The

3497
01:57:50,745 --> 01:57:53,547
money was given to the wide

3498
01:57:53,547 --> 01:57:57,147
open wall. Yeah. And then I

3499
01:57:58,686 --> 01:58:01,686
guess seven. There could have

3500
01:58:09,764 --> 01:58:11,465
been my screen projector was.

3501
01:58:11,465 --> 01:58:12,533
>> So. Good afternoon. We are

3502
01:58:12,533 --> 01:58:14,933
calling a closed session

3503
01:58:15,690 --> 01:58:16,337
meeting to order. We're calling

3504
01:58:16,337 --> 01:58:17,872
the special meeting for the

3505
01:58:17,872 --> 01:58:19,390
purpose of a closed session. I

3506
01:58:19,390 --> 01:58:20,740
have a quorum of council

3507
01:58:20,740 --> 01:58:21,876
members and chambers. There are

3508
01:58:21,876 --> 01:58:23,511
two items on that agenda. We

3509
01:58:23,511 --> 01:58:24,945
have no speakers on any of the

3510
01:58:24,945 --> 01:58:26,460
agenda items on the closed

3511
01:58:26,460 --> 01:58:27,415
session agenda. The first item

3512
01:58:27,415 --> 01:58:28,820
is conference with labor

3513
01:58:28,820 --> 01:58:30,820
negotiators. Government code,

3514
01:58:30,985 --> 01:58:32,860
section five four, 957.6.

3515
01:58:32,860 --> 01:58:33,654
Designated representatives are

3516
01:58:33,654 --> 01:58:35,589
Lainie Milstein, Aaron Donato

3517
01:58:35,589 --> 01:58:36,758
and Tim Davis. Employee

3518
01:58:36,758 --> 01:58:38,626
organizations are Sacramento

3519
01:58:38,626 --> 01:58:40,270
Police Officers Association and

3520
01:58:40,270 --> 01:58:42,270
Sacramento area firefighters.

3521
01:58:42,463 --> 01:58:43,964
Local 522. The second item is

3522
01:58:43,964 --> 01:58:44,699
Public Employee performance

3523
01:58:44,699 --> 01:58:46,699
evaluation, government Code,

3524
01:58:48,302 --> 01:58:50,137
section 54957 b one title is

3525
01:58:50,137 --> 01:58:51,439
city Attorney and chair. You

3526
01:58:51,439 --> 01:58:51,672
MAY now adjourn to closed

3527
01:58:51,672 --> 01:58:53,241
session.

3528
01:58:53,241 --> 01:58:55,241
>> All right.

3529
01:59:10,358 --> 01:59:12,758
>> Adjourned in closed session.