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>> #01: test test.

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>> Mayor Nirenberg: test test.

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>> Mayor Nirenberg: test test.

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>> Mayor Nirenberg: test test

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for affordable the housing this

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includes additional funds for

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owner, minor home repair,

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permanent supportive housing and

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multifamily affordable housing.

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311 had several questions at

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last week's b session and the

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trial budget calls to increase

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staffing to the 31 call center

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by 10 full time and two

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part-time positions, to decrease

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the amount of time it takes to

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respond to calls.

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Currently the 311 center has a

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20 full time staff and part-time

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staff with some ten funding in

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the center, call volume

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increased over 20 percent since

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2018, the center back in 2018

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and 2019 exceeded its service

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level goals with 96 percent of

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all calls were answers.

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This year, 311 projects with

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that increased call volume we

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are seeing, that will lead to

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tan overall response of

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approximately 81 percent of

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calls to be answered further

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calls answered within 45 seconds

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which is the service level goal

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is expected to decrease to

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45 percent down from 84 percent

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in 2019.

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With the additional staffing

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proposed in the trial budget,

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the expectation would be to

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answer a 90 percent of all calls

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and get to 69 percent of calls

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within 45 seconds.

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The call center is open seven

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days a week from 7:00 A.M. To

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7:00 P.M., there is limited

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operations for animal care and

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traffic concerns from 7:00 P.M.

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To 11:00 P.M. Nightly,

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unsurprisingly most of the calls

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come in during the peak hours

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generally between 9:00 A.M. And

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4:00 P.M. And also tend to come

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in on monday morning and tail

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off throughout the week with

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relatively low volumes on late

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nights and weekends.

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The police department property

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room is a budget issue that also

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has been discussed.

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The city council approved $25

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property storage fee back with

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the 2010 budget to partially

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recover costs associated with

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storage fees.

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In 2018, the bexar county

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changed its property intake

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property so that only certain

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items can be stored there,

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essentially limited to credit

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card and id phone keys and some

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cash, several items such as

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jewelry, wallets, are now stored

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at the city's property right,

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which has increased impounded

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property at the city storage

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facility.

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The fee currently brings in

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about $200,000 that partially

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offsets $1.1 million

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approximately in annual costs to

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operate the facility.

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Alamo promise is another topic

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of discussion for the b session.

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Animal promise provides

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graduates of bexar county high

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schools gap financing between

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the cost of tuition and

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financial aid at the five alamo

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colleges.

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In the current year, fiscal year

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'21 the adopted budget includes

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$1.1 million in matching dollars

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to serve nearly 5,000 students.

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The year three request for

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fiscal year '22 is about

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$2.5 million.

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Again this would provide last

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dollar scholarships to about

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7,200 students and additional

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schools to the program.

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Let's talk a little bit about

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financial policy and preparation

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for the upcoming fiscal year '22

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proposed budget.

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Financial policy guides the

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preparation of the budget and

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the purpose of financial

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policies is to establish

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guidance and financial

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management for the city.

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The, they are critical domain

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tank a strong financial position

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and to adapt to economic

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challenges like we have seen

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over the last year plus, several

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months going back to the

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beginning of the pandemic.

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These are also the financial

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policies that we present to bond

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rating agencies as part of the

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city's overall credit.

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The city's goal is to maintain

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structural balance in the

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general fund.

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That opinions our current

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revenues should cover our

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current expenses.

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The city also has a policy to

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keep public safety spending

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below 66 percent of the general

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fund revenues and we maintain a

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balance of 15 percent overall in

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our general fund each year.

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Finally the city maintains

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additional contingencies of

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$1 million in the general fund

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and $3 million in the capital

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budget during the year to

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account for periodic

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fluctuations within a given

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fiscal year.

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Additionally one of our policies

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is to address any internal

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service fund deficits within

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three to five years.

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Internal service funds in the

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city provide services for the

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entire service and are

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reimbursed from city operational

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funds.

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For example, the city is -- the

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city is self insured for

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employee benefits such as

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workers' compensation and

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health, live and dental, should

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any of these internal service

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funds go into deficit, the

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city's policy is to restore

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those funds to balance within

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three to five years by charging

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back other funds of the city to

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keep them in balance.

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The city also should have just

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fees and charges for service to

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keep up with those services that

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are partially or pulley

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supported by -- charges other

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than taxes.

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At this time we are not looking

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at fee increases in the fund.

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The city reviews the impact of

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the state imposed 3.5 percent

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property tax cap that was

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enacted a few years ago.

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We are not expected to reach

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that cap in fiscal year '22, and

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the city also has a policy to

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review property tax relief.. A

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focus on homeowners and our cfo

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-- that will expand on property

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taxes in just a minute.

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Following today's meeting, staff

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will take the feedback from

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here, from other sessions and

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surveys to finalize the fiscal

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year 2022 proposed budget.

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The city manager will propose

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the budget formally on AUGUST 12

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after the budget is proposed

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there will be more community

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engagement, several budget work

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sessions with the council prior

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to the scheduled adoption on

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SEPTEMBER 16th.

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With that, I will turn it over

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to ben gorzell and dive a little

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deep severe the tax review

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property and jeff coyle will

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talk about the community survey.

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thank you.

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>> good morning, mayor and

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councilmembers, ben gorzell,

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chief financial officer for the

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city.

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As scott said I will give you a

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little bit of information about

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the relief we currently offer on

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property taxes, so we do offer a

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homestead exemption, and under

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state law we are pretty limited

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in terms of what we can do.

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The one tool we have when you

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adopt the homestead exemption is

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it has to be as a percentage of

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the value of the home so we

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don't have the ability, for

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example, a couple of years ago

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the council asked us to look at

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things like how about adopting a

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flat dollar amount?

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We don't have the ability to do

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that.

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We have conversations about

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tiering homestead exemption

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where you would do it based don

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years of ownership of the home.

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We don't have the ability to do

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that.

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All we can do is adopt as a

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percentage of home value.

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The council in 2019 moved

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forward with a homestead

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exemption, the state law says it

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is a percentage but it can't be

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less than $5,000.

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So the council adopted a

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.01 percent homestead exemption.

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That triggered the minimum value

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under state law, so currently

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every homestead in san antonio

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gets a $5,000 exemption, because

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we triggered that minimum

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amount.

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If you were to move that up

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going forward, that would change

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based on the value of the home.

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In terms of our elderly

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population, we do offer an over

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age 65, $65,000 property tax

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exemption, and we also offer a

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$12,500 disabled persons

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exemption.

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I want to note an important stat

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here.

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So when we look at our -- those

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that have applied with the

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appraisal district that actually

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have the homestead in place,

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45 percent of's are frozen, so

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we have the.. Senior tax freeze

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in place and I will show you a

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slide as far as how that looks

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and what that looks like.

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45 percent of our homesteads in

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the city are frozen, meaning

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that their city tax bill does

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not increase year to year

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regardless of with what value of

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the home does.

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When you look at all of that in

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terms of the exemptions and the

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relief that we offer, the total

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we will forego in fy '21 is

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approximately $65.8 million,

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with 6.1 million of that is

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attribute to believe the local

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homestead exemption.

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One of the things we are going

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to work on and actually

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councilmember bravo brought this

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up during b session last week,

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what you are looking at here and

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the numbers I just gave you are

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those homeowners that have filed

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for a homestead exemption with

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the appraisal district.

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You know, one of the things we

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want to work on and work with

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the appraisal district on, we

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know there are many more

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single-family or single-family

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homes within the city, some of

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those are going to be rental

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properties.

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But we want to reach out to

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those homeowners and make sure

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that if they are eligible for an

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over age 65 or a homestead

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exemption that we help them file

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that and we are going to work on

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a process to do that.

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State law did change in 2019

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requiring appraisal districts to

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notify those properties.

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They are sending letters out and

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doing those things.

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We are actually going to do a

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little more analysis and come

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back to you and do a district by

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district analysis.

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We would like to create some

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maps and then work with you

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individually in terms of how we

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reach out to those homeowners

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again to make sure that this is

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their residence.

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We want to make sure they are

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taking advantage of the tools we

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have in place today.

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I mentioned the senior exemption

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and the tax freeze and the last

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time I talked about this, I

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think there was a little bit of

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confusion how this actually

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works.

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So I thought the staff did a

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good job of putting together a

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graphic here I will walk through

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that hopefully helps.

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So in in example, we have got a

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person here age 64, they have a

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homestead and in that year their

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home value was $200,000.

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They have got homestead

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exemption so they have a $5,000

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reduction in taxable value so

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their taxable value is actually

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$195,000 in this scenario.

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And then if you apply our city

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tax rate so to that their city

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tax bill would be $1,089.

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We go to the next year, they

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have now turned age 65.

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The value of that home increased

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to $206,000, the $5,000

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homestead exemption for the city

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is still there, so you take that

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off of that assessed value and

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then now we take an additional

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$65,000 off of that value.

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So the taxable value drops down

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to $136,000 in this example.

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You apply the city tax rate,

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their city tax bill is now

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dropped to $759, result of that

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senior exemption.

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And then because we have the

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senior tax freeze in place,

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while you can see that top line

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in this example, the home

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continues to increase in value,

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that city property tax bill

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doesn't change.

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It stays at that $759.

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So as long as they don't make

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any substantial improvements to

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the home, add a pool, add an

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additional room, something like

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that, this will stay in place,

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and in the event they add an

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improvement, this only gets

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adjusted for the improvement and

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then it is frozen again.

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So as I mentioned on the

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previous slide, 45 percent of

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the homesteads in san antonio

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look just like this for the city

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tax bill.

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In terms of what our local

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jurisdictions look like here in

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bexar county that actually

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assess a property tax rate, we

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have listed them here on this

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slide.

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You can see the tax rate there

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on the far left.

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There are local homestead

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exemptions in place for us, the

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river authority and the

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independent school district.

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There are some mandatory

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exemptions in place for to the

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school districts here and for

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bexar county road and flood and

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then there is the over age 65

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exemptions and then I will just

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jump to the far right.

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You see most of the

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jurisdictions here in the county

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have the property tax freeze.

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So the school district tax will

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work just like the one I just

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showed you on the previous

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slide.

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So again, once they hit age 65,

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the taxes would be frozen.

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So we just want to share that

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with you in terms of some stats

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on our property taxes.

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At this point I am going to turn

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it over to assistant city

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manager jeff coyle who is going

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to give you an update on our

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community survey.

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Good morning.

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Mayor and council.

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The government and public

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affairs department, let me get

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to the right slide here, MAY I

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have a little assistant, team in

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00:46:37,836 --> 00:46:38,805
getting to our slides.

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While they are working on that

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the government of public affairs

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00:46:43,709 --> 00:46:45,612
department conducted an assay

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00:46:45,612 --> 00:46:47,513
peek up survey.. To gather

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public input on what our

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community wants to see in the

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budget.

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To date, we have received over

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00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:55,821
9,000 responses, 9,025.

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For the purposes of the that we

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are going share today the survey

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period was from JUNE 1st to

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JUNE 21st, but I will talk about

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that data in just a second.

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The survey was conducted in

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spanish and english.

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00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:12,238
We promoted it on social media.

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00:47:12,238 --> 00:47:12,605
We purchased digital

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00:47:12,605 --> 00:47:14,605
advertisements.

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00:47:14,841 --> 00:47:16,176
We e-mail every single

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00:47:16,176 --> 00:47:17,777
respondent of past surveys.

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00:47:17,777 --> 00:47:19,110
We have been doing this now for

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00:47:19,110 --> 00:47:21,681
five or six years and invite

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00:47:21,681 --> 00:47:23,449
them to take the survey again.

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00:47:23,449 --> 00:47:24,751
We pitch sorry troys media.

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00:47:24,751 --> 00:47:26,685
We purchased some media,

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00:47:26,685 --> 00:47:28,685
television and radio.

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00:47:29,189 --> 00:47:31,357
We sent mailers to districts

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00:47:31,357 --> 00:47:33,259
2 through 5, which have

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00:47:33,259 --> 00:47:34,460
historically provided the lowest

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00:47:34,460 --> 00:47:36,462
response, so we make a little

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00:47:36,462 --> 00:47:37,763
extra effort in those districts.

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00:47:37,763 --> 00:47:39,310
We have yard signs throughout

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00:47:39,310 --> 00:47:40,433
our city parks and we have been

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00:47:40,433 --> 00:47:41,667
working with our stakeholder

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00:47:41,667 --> 00:47:44,667
groups and our city departments

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00:47:45,404 --> 00:47:46,573
to get the word out.

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00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:47,807
Now, there is -- anybody can

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00:47:47,807 --> 00:47:49,642
take this survey.

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00:47:49,642 --> 00:47:50,877
It is a digital survey.

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00:47:50,877 --> 00:47:53,780
This year and last we have had

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00:47:53,780 --> 00:47:54,213
to do digital only as a result

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00:47:54,213 --> 00:47:56,213
of covid.

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00:47:56,849 --> 00:47:58,150
In prior years we also had paper

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00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:59,686
surveys at libraries and we will

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00:47:59,686 --> 00:48:02,588
do that here later this summer,

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00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:03,656
but it is a survey that we don't

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00:48:03,656 --> 00:48:05,656
control demographics.

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00:48:06,660 --> 00:48:08,610
We don't do a representative

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00:48:08,610 --> 00:48:09,863
sample, which would prevent many

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00:48:09,863 --> 00:48:11,397
people from taking the survey.

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00:48:11,397 --> 00:48:13,699
Only those who are lucky enough

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00:48:13,699 --> 00:48:15,501
to get sampled with the survey.

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00:48:15,501 --> 00:48:15,769
Instead we open this to

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00:48:15,769 --> 00:48:16,937
everyone.

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00:48:16,937 --> 00:48:18,871
And so in prior years what we

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00:48:18,871 --> 00:48:20,573
have done is monitor the

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00:48:20,573 --> 00:48:22,274
demographics throughout the

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00:48:22,274 --> 00:48:23,910
survey period and then double

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00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:25,911
down our efforts in those areas

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00:48:25,911 --> 00:48:28,314
that are lagging, so if a

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00:48:28,314 --> 00:48:29,749
certain council district, we are

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00:48:29,749 --> 00:48:31,317
not getting as many numbers or a

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00:48:31,317 --> 00:48:32,853
certain demographic group we do

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00:48:32,853 --> 00:48:34,120
a lot of street efforts and send

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00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:34,487
street teams out to community

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00:48:34,487 --> 00:48:36,487
events.

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00:48:36,489 --> 00:48:37,524
Go to senior centers.

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00:48:37,524 --> 00:48:39,924
We do robo calls.

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00:48:40,193 --> 00:48:41,361
Do we all sorts of things to try

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00:48:41,361 --> 00:48:42,729
to get those numbers up.

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00:48:42,729 --> 00:48:44,430
We will do that later this

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00:48:44,430 --> 00:48:46,599
summer so the numbers you are

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00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:48,301
about to see are not as

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00:48:48,301 --> 00:48:50,437
representative of the community

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00:48:50,437 --> 00:48:51,538
as whole as we would like and we

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00:48:51,538 --> 00:48:53,500
will continue working on that

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00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:57,205
and for the purposes of today we

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00:48:57,477 --> 00:48:59,613
are going to disago fate the

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00:48:59,613 --> 00:49:03,213
data.. Get a city wide answer

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00:49:04,451 --> 00:49:05,218
but rather a district response.

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00:49:05,218 --> 00:49:05,986
So here is the council

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breakdown.

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If we had a perfectly even

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distribution we would have

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00:49:10,157 --> 00:49:12,792
ten percent for every council

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00:49:12,792 --> 00:49:15,395
district, so you see districts

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00:49:15,395 --> 00:49:16,496
1, 7, 8, 10, are close to that

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00:49:16,496 --> 00:49:18,164
din percent mark.

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00:49:18,164 --> 00:49:20,633
But then we have a big jump in

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00:49:20,633 --> 00:49:23,270
district mine this year, almost

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00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:25,639
twice number, and 18 percent,

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00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:27,140
almost one in five didn't know

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00:49:27,140 --> 00:49:28,700
their council district so that

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00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:28,742
affects the distribution as

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well.

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Clearly, we have worked to do in

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districts 2 through 5,

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00:49:33,913 --> 00:49:36,115
2 through 6 to try to bring

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those numbers up.

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In terms of age, we have a

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00:49:39,486 --> 00:49:41,521
really nice distribution across

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all of the various age groups

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with the largest number of

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00:49:45,725 --> 00:49:48,125
respondents coming from the 35

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00:49:48,328 --> 00:49:49,730
to 44 age group.

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Gender we had twice as many

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00:49:52,532 --> 00:49:53,100
women as men take survey this

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00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:55,100
year.

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00:49:55,201 --> 00:49:56,603
And then race and ethnicity this

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00:49:56,603 --> 00:49:58,671
is another area and I think tied

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00:49:58,671 --> 00:50:00,506
to the higher response in

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districts 8, 9 and 10.

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00:50:02,408 --> 00:50:06,800
We have a higher percentage of

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white respondents than the other

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00:50:07,748 --> 00:50:09,516
demographic groups, in this

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00:50:09,516 --> 00:50:10,484
community hispanics make up

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00:50:10,484 --> 00:50:12,520
64 percent of the population,

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00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,452
black or african-american is

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00:50:14,454 --> 00:50:16,560
about seven percent, so those

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00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,157
responses are lower than what

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00:50:17,157 --> 00:50:18,659
our community make-up is, and

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00:50:18,659 --> 00:50:19,792
that's where we still need to do

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00:50:19,792 --> 00:50:21,792
some work.

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00:50:23,620 --> 00:50:24,865
Again, to note there is almost

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00:50:24,865 --> 00:50:27,265
14 percent prefer not answer

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00:50:27,601 --> 00:50:28,501
that affects the distribution a

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00:50:28,501 --> 00:50:30,203
little bit.

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00:50:30,203 --> 00:50:31,805
and finally we ask income, and

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00:50:31,805 --> 00:50:34,805
you see the largest percentage

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00:50:35,175 --> 00:50:37,711
fall right between that 50 and

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00:50:37,711 --> 00:50:39,450
$75,000 per year income.

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00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:41,214
And so two things.

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The city manager has asked, has

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00:50:42,616 --> 00:50:42,816
directed us to keep the survey

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00:50:42,816 --> 00:50:43,817
open.

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00:50:43,817 --> 00:50:45,151
We are going to do that through

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00:50:45,151 --> 00:50:46,186
the month of JULY and we are

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00:50:46,186 --> 00:50:48,288
going to work with those

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00:50:48,288 --> 00:50:50,557
districts that had lower

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00:50:50,557 --> 00:50:53,590
response rates, will do door

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00:50:53,590 --> 00:50:53,693
hangers and like to do block

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00:50:53,693 --> 00:50:55,695
walking with the new

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00:50:55,695 --> 00:50:57,300
councilmembers and some targeted

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00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:58,198
advertising and efforts with

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00:50:58,198 --> 00:51:00,330
stakeholder group to balance out

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00:51:00,330 --> 00:51:01,100
the demographics.

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00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,300
For today's purposes we are

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00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:04,671
going show you the numbers

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00:51:04,671 --> 00:51:06,239
disaggregated, which I think

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00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:06,607
will hopefully still inform the

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00:51:06,607 --> 00:51:07,874
discussion here.

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00:51:07,874 --> 00:51:08,675
So we asked three major

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00:51:08,675 --> 00:51:10,276
questions.

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00:51:10,276 --> 00:51:12,546
The first was of the programs

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00:51:12,546 --> 00:51:14,981
that were cut from the last two

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00:51:14,981 --> 00:51:17,351
budgets, from fy-20 and 21,

580
00:51:17,351 --> 00:51:19,118
which of those would you like to

581
00:51:19,118 --> 00:51:19,486
most see restored in this year's

582
00:51:19,486 --> 00:51:21,486
budget?

583
00:51:22,220 --> 00:51:22,522
And we asked them to rank those

584
00:51:22,522 --> 00:51:24,522
categories.

585
00:51:24,824 --> 00:51:26,927
So there were five major program

586
00:51:26,927 --> 00:51:28,996
areas in terms of public facing

587
00:51:28,996 --> 00:51:31,264
programs that were cut from

588
00:51:31,264 --> 00:51:33,166
previous budgets and it is a

589
00:51:33,166 --> 00:51:34,468
pretty clear response from the

590
00:51:34,468 --> 00:51:35,402
community, streets, in unone is

591
00:51:35,402 --> 00:51:38,172
where they want to see the

592
00:51:38,172 --> 00:51:39,239
number restored, the economic

593
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,639
development incentives for job

594
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:44,344
creation is number 2, planning

595
00:51:44,344 --> 00:51:46,212
dollars for the sa tomorrow

596
00:51:46,212 --> 00:51:48,648
plan, clear number 3 and you see

597
00:51:48,648 --> 00:51:50,283
some differences between arts

598
00:51:50,283 --> 00:51:51,819
funding and our contribution to

599
00:51:51,819 --> 00:51:52,186
visit san antonio to generate

600
00:51:52,186 --> 00:51:53,354
tourism.

601
00:51:53,354 --> 00:51:55,688
so that was pretty clear across

602
00:51:55,688 --> 00:51:57,688
the board.

603
00:51:57,725 --> 00:52:00,294
Second question was, if we have

604
00:52:00,294 --> 00:52:01,895
to cut from this budget and

605
00:52:01,895 --> 00:52:03,297
next, which areas would you not

606
00:52:03,297 --> 00:52:05,697
like to see cut?

607
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,935
What is most sacred to you in

608
00:52:08,935 --> 00:52:10,637
terms of what is currently in

609
00:52:10,637 --> 00:52:13,600
our budget going forward?

610
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,475
And we -- so as to not make

611
00:52:14,475 --> 00:52:15,542
people pick one category,

612
00:52:15,542 --> 00:52:17,177
because we know a lot of these

613
00:52:17,177 --> 00:52:20,470
programs are important, we allow

614
00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:21,715
people to select five of them,

615
00:52:21,715 --> 00:52:24,184
and ten score them accordingly.

616
00:52:24,184 --> 00:52:26,286
And so this is a busy chart and

617
00:52:26,286 --> 00:52:27,621
I am going to linger on it a

618
00:52:27,621 --> 00:52:28,922
second so you look at this.

619
00:52:28,922 --> 00:52:31,258
But this is where we start to

620
00:52:31,258 --> 00:52:34,127
see some differences by drink.

621
00:52:34,127 --> 00:52:36,290
So district 6 through 10 clearly

622
00:52:36,290 --> 00:52:37,832
said do not cut fire.

623
00:52:37,832 --> 00:52:39,967
Do not cut fire.

624
00:52:39,967 --> 00:52:41,368
And you go to the next row,

625
00:52:41,368 --> 00:52:43,170
several of the same districts,

626
00:52:43,170 --> 00:52:43,738
8, 9, and 10 also said do not

627
00:52:43,738 --> 00:52:45,738
cut police.

628
00:52:46,173 --> 00:52:48,175
And you bring in also districts

629
00:52:48,175 --> 00:52:51,579
3 and 4, who had fire and police

630
00:52:51,579 --> 00:52:51,913
as their top two, or in the top

631
00:52:51,913 --> 00:52:53,614
two.

632
00:52:53,614 --> 00:52:56,517
Third was a pretty clear, almost

633
00:52:56,517 --> 00:52:58,252
across the board streets and

634
00:52:58,252 --> 00:52:59,320
sidewalks in almost every

635
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,887
district's top three.

636
00:53:00,887 --> 00:53:01,589
But then you start to really see

637
00:53:01,589 --> 00:53:03,589
some differences here.

638
00:53:03,824 --> 00:53:05,792
Will be at district 5.

639
00:53:05,792 --> 00:53:06,293
Number one, do to the cut senior

640
00:53:06,293 --> 00:53:07,761
services.

641
00:53:07,761 --> 00:53:09,196
That's most important to the

642
00:53:09,196 --> 00:53:10,598
respondents from district 5.

643
00:53:10,598 --> 00:53:11,565
Followed by public health and

644
00:53:11,565 --> 00:53:13,434
streets and sidewalks.

645
00:53:13,434 --> 00:53:15,403
And I will note district 3 also

646
00:53:15,403 --> 00:53:16,637
had senior services, then

647
00:53:16,637 --> 00:53:18,238
police, then streets.

648
00:53:18,238 --> 00:53:20,207
We will get to district 2.

649
00:53:20,207 --> 00:53:21,375
Housing affordability.

650
00:53:21,375 --> 00:53:22,476
Clearly number one

651
00:53:22,476 --> 00:53:24,476
one and district

652
00:53:25,279 --> 00:53:26,848
2, and if you look across that

653
00:53:26,848 --> 00:53:28,949
row, it scored much lower in

654
00:53:28,949 --> 00:53:30,952
many of the other districts,

655
00:53:30,952 --> 00:53:32,753
perhaps reflective of housing

656
00:53:32,753 --> 00:53:33,320
challenges and issues in

657
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,320
district 2.

658
00:53:35,389 --> 00:53:36,924
Or it certainly is reflective of

659
00:53:36,924 --> 00:53:37,992
it being a priority and

660
00:53:37,992 --> 00:53:39,894
something they don't want to see

661
00:53:39,894 --> 00:53:41,328
cut and finally in district 1,

662
00:53:41,328 --> 00:53:43,364
public health was number one,

663
00:53:43,364 --> 00:53:45,166
followed by senior services and

664
00:53:45,166 --> 00:53:47,166
streets and sidewalks.

665
00:53:47,535 --> 00:53:49,469
By the way, I should note, your

666
00:53:49,469 --> 00:53:50,404
binders have a district specific

667
00:53:50,404 --> 00:53:51,906
report, so while I am going

668
00:53:51,906 --> 00:53:53,340
through this kind of quickly you

669
00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:54,675
refer to that at any point today

670
00:53:54,675 --> 00:53:56,100
and you will have the data in

671
00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,100
front of you.

672
00:53:58,879 --> 00:54:00,681
The final question was, if the

673
00:54:00,681 --> 00:54:02,350
budget, if we are allowed, if we

674
00:54:02,350 --> 00:54:03,684
are able to make strategic

675
00:54:03,684 --> 00:54:06,840
investments in this budget,

676
00:54:09,771 --> 00:54:09,860
which city services would you

677
00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:09,949
like to see increased?

678
00:54:09,949 --> 00:54:10,390
So it is a different question

679
00:54:10,390 --> 00:54:10,127
from don't cut.

680
00:54:10,127 --> 00:54:10,458
It is where do we need to put

681
00:54:10,458 --> 00:54:12,458
more money?

682
00:54:12,927 --> 00:54:14,362
And again we let people choose

683
00:54:14,362 --> 00:54:17,362
five different choices and then

684
00:54:17,865 --> 00:54:19,660
score them accord dwi.

685
00:54:19,660 --> 00:54:22,660
And so, clearly, across the

686
00:54:22,102 --> 00:54:24,172
board, streets and sachs is a

687
00:54:24,172 --> 00:54:25,606
winner that question, almost

688
00:54:25,606 --> 00:54:27,241
every district had it as number

689
00:54:27,241 --> 00:54:29,877
one with the exceptions of 1 and

690
00:54:29,877 --> 00:54:30,611
5 and they still had it in top

691
00:54:30,611 --> 00:54:32,611
3.

692
00:54:32,913 --> 00:54:34,414
Public health, a clear number

693
00:54:34,414 --> 00:54:37,414
2 across the board with district

694
00:54:37,618 --> 00:54:38,286
1, again, saying that was most

695
00:54:38,286 --> 00:54:39,786
important.

696
00:54:39,786 --> 00:54:42,323
And I think district -- excuse

697
00:54:42,323 --> 00:54:44,626
me, and I think senior services

698
00:54:44,626 --> 00:54:46,560
comes in as a clear solid number

699
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,560
three with district

700
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:49,297
5 prioritizing that above all

701
00:54:49,297 --> 00:54:50,531
else.

702
00:54:50,531 --> 00:54:53,100
Maybe you see a little bit of

703
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:54,635
variation with parks and rec and

704
00:54:54,635 --> 00:54:57,400
housing affordability jumping in

705
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,105
the top three in districts 1,

706
00:54:58,105 --> 00:54:58,339
2 and 7.

707
00:54:58,339 --> 00:55:00,339
Okay.

708
00:55:00,775 --> 00:55:00,975
Now, excuse me.

709
00:55:00,975 --> 00:55:02,975
Oops.

710
00:55:03,144 --> 00:55:04,979
This is going forward on me now.

711
00:55:04,979 --> 00:55:05,813
We also broke this up by race

712
00:55:05,813 --> 00:55:07,813
and ethnicity.

713
00:55:07,815 --> 00:55:09,317
We just did it for all of them.

714
00:55:09,317 --> 00:55:11,485
We can disaggregate all of the

715
00:55:11,485 --> 00:55:14,255
data but for the purposes of

716
00:55:14,255 --> 00:55:14,956
today we disaggregated for this

717
00:55:14,956 --> 00:55:16,956
question specifically about

718
00:55:16,958 --> 00:55:18,760
where we should put more money.

719
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:19,994
And there is a lot of variation

720
00:55:19,994 --> 00:55:21,729
here.

721
00:55:21,729 --> 00:55:22,997
So this is where should we make

722
00:55:22,997 --> 00:55:24,665
strategic investments by race

723
00:55:24,665 --> 00:55:26,665
and ethnicity.

724
00:55:26,801 --> 00:55:27,801
Let's start with the largest

725
00:55:27,801 --> 00:55:30,710
demographics group in the

726
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:32,471
community, hispanic or latino,

727
00:55:32,507 --> 00:55:34,309
public health, number one,

728
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:36,610
senior services, number 2 and

729
00:55:36,610 --> 00:55:38,812
streets and sidewalks number 3.

730
00:55:38,812 --> 00:55:40,815
And I will note native hawaiian,

731
00:55:40,815 --> 00:55:41,715
about a civic islander also had

732
00:55:41,715 --> 00:55:43,585
public health number one.

733
00:55:43,585 --> 00:55:44,919
If we move over to white

734
00:55:44,919 --> 00:55:46,919
respondents, streets and

735
00:55:47,455 --> 00:55:49,855
sidewalks, number one, parks,

736
00:55:50,491 --> 00:55:50,891
number two, and public health,

737
00:55:50,891 --> 00:55:52,891
number three.

738
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,864
And then if we look over at

739
00:55:55,864 --> 00:55:56,898
black, african-american

740
00:55:56,898 --> 00:55:58,898
respondents, again.. The

741
00:55:59,667 --> 00:56:01,703
housing affordability jumps to

742
00:56:01,703 --> 00:56:03,137
number one for that demographic

743
00:56:03,137 --> 00:56:04,606
group request senior health and

744
00:56:04,606 --> 00:56:05,739
senior services following.

745
00:56:05,739 --> 00:56:09,339
And then finally the last slide,

746
00:56:11,849 --> 00:56:11,957
I will break it up by age, and I

747
00:56:11,957 --> 00:56:12,750
think the easiest way to look at

748
00:56:12,750 --> 00:56:13,314
this slide in any view is to

749
00:56:13,314 --> 00:56:16,317
smith it right down the middle,

750
00:56:16,317 --> 00:56:19,317
so 45 and above, 44 and below.

751
00:56:19,587 --> 00:56:20,988
45 and above, streets and

752
00:56:20,988 --> 00:56:24,580
sidewalks, one or two in all of

753
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:26,600
those age groups, with senior

754
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,196
services as 1 or 2 in all of

755
00:56:28,196 --> 00:56:29,163
those age category, maybe not

756
00:56:29,163 --> 00:56:30,565
surprising since this is the

757
00:56:30,565 --> 00:56:32,565
older age categories.

758
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,104
You see in the 55 and up,

759
00:56:36,104 --> 00:56:39,104
police, more funding the or

760
00:56:39,207 --> 00:56:39,908
police becomes a top three

761
00:56:39,908 --> 00:56:41,908
priority.

762
00:56:42,944 --> 00:56:44,512
Looking below 44 and below,

763
00:56:44,512 --> 00:56:47,616
public health is one or two in

764
00:56:47,616 --> 00:56:49,751
all of those age groups.

765
00:56:49,751 --> 00:56:51,253
Pa parks and rec, important for

766
00:56:51,253 --> 00:56:53,253
those between 25 and 44.

767
00:56:54,556 --> 00:56:56,956
And then housing affordability

768
00:56:57,191 --> 00:56:58,927
between 18 and 34, second and

769
00:56:58,927 --> 00:57:01,229
third, youth services gets a

770
00:57:01,229 --> 00:57:01,529
third place for the 18 to 24

771
00:57:01,529 --> 00:57:03,529
category.

772
00:57:04,766 --> 00:57:06,334
So the young people are saying,

773
00:57:06,334 --> 00:57:07,635
services, we have the older

774
00:57:07,635 --> 00:57:08,837
people saying senior services

775
00:57:08,837 --> 00:57:09,371
which probably shouldn't

776
00:57:09,371 --> 00:57:11,371
surprise anyone.

777
00:57:12,107 --> 00:57:13,842
So with that, we have -- my

778
00:57:13,842 --> 00:57:16,778
assistant director laura has a

779
00:57:16,778 --> 00:57:18,646
list of tactics we are going to

780
00:57:18,646 --> 00:57:20,315
deploy to get the survey open

781
00:57:20,315 --> 00:57:22,500
with erik's direction through at

782
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:23,170
least the first three weeks of

783
00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:24,352
JULY we will be reaching out to

784
00:57:24,352 --> 00:57:26,121
your offices and have updated

785
00:57:26,121 --> 00:57:27,880
numbers as this budget process

786
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:28,356
moves forward.

787
00:57:28,356 --> 00:57:29,557
So with that, I think I will

788
00:57:29,557 --> 00:57:29,757
turn it back to you, right,

789
00:57:29,757 --> 00:57:30,525
erik?

790
00:57:30,525 --> 00:57:30,758
>> yes.

791
00:57:30,758 --> 00:57:31,292
Thanks.

792
00:57:31,292 --> 00:57:32,360
>> thank you, council.

793
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,360
>> thank you, jeff.

794
00:57:35,463 --> 00:57:37,766
One thing I wanted to point out

795
00:57:37,766 --> 00:57:38,533
and it was on the -- one of the

796
00:57:38,533 --> 00:57:41,533
slides 0 that was talked about

797
00:57:41,736 --> 00:57:42,103
the 20 the if dollar property

798
00:57:42,103 --> 00:57:44,103
room fee.

799
00:57:44,672 --> 00:57:48,176
The reason why that is in there

800
00:57:48,176 --> 00:57:52,213
is because of the ccr that was

801
00:57:52,213 --> 00:57:53,848
drafted by COUNCILMAN Havrda and

802
00:57:53,848 --> 00:57:55,750
discussed as public safety

803
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:56,852
committee.. I think part of the

804
00:57:56,852 --> 00:57:59,852
discussion at the committee was

805
00:58:00,220 --> 00:58:03,725
we would bring that back to the

806
00:58:03,725 --> 00:58:06,394
council during budget to get

807
00:58:06,394 --> 00:58:09,163
feedback that you saw that cost

808
00:58:09,163 --> 00:58:11,199
changes about $200,000 in lost

809
00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:13,201
revenue but something certainly

810
00:58:13,201 --> 00:58:14,669
-- the consensus, I think

811
00:58:14,669 --> 00:58:16,700
COUNCILWOMAN At some point you

812
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:17,305
MAY want to share with the rest

813
00:58:17,305 --> 00:58:19,741
of the colleagues what the

814
00:58:19,741 --> 00:58:20,675
conversation was at public

815
00:58:20,675 --> 00:58:20,942
safety.

816
00:58:20,942 --> 00:58:21,509
>> great,.

817
00:58:21,509 --> 00:58:22,844
>> Mayor Nirenberg: great.

818
00:58:22,844 --> 00:58:26,915
Thank you very much, you all for

819
00:58:26,915 --> 00:58:28,483
the presentations.

820
00:58:28,483 --> 00:58:29,551
And just for.. From you are we

821
00:58:29,551 --> 00:58:30,786
have a number of different

822
00:58:30,786 --> 00:58:31,190
sections of our discussion

823
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:32,353
today.

824
00:58:32,353 --> 00:58:34,389
Obviously we will be getting

825
00:58:34,389 --> 00:58:36,157
into a little bit more depth on

826
00:58:36,157 --> 00:58:37,325
the priorities that were listed

827
00:58:37,325 --> 00:58:39,161
in one of the earlier slides.

828
00:58:39,161 --> 00:58:41,196
You see them on your agenda.

829
00:58:41,196 --> 00:58:42,398
So for the purposes of this

830
00:58:42,398 --> 00:58:44,799
section, it is really just again

831
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:46,334
a recap of our level set trial

832
00:58:46,334 --> 00:58:47,735
budget, along with our financial

833
00:58:47,735 --> 00:58:50,538
policies and then of course the

834
00:58:50,538 --> 00:58:51,740
community survey input process.

835
00:58:51,740 --> 00:58:53,107
If you would like to chime in

836
00:58:53,107 --> 00:58:55,900
and ask questions open any one

837
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:57,279
of those sections, let me know.

838
00:58:57,279 --> 00:58:58,113
Otherwise we will move on.

839
00:58:58,113 --> 00:58:59,381
Just signal me.

840
00:58:59,381 --> 00:59:00,915
And we are going to try to keep

841
00:59:00,915 --> 00:59:01,950
the conversation flowing so on

842
00:59:01,950 --> 00:59:03,752
these earlier sections we will

843
00:59:03,752 --> 00:59:05,587
give about five minutes to kind

844
00:59:05,587 --> 00:59:07,623
of give everybody a chance do,

845
00:59:07,623 --> 00:59:08,150
who wants one, otherwise, we

846
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:09,424
move on.

847
00:59:09,424 --> 00:59:10,759
And this when have a locker

848
00:59:10,759 --> 00:59:12,759
discussion about priorities,

849
00:59:12,894 --> 00:59:15,564
perhaps that.. Aren't listed in

850
00:59:15,564 --> 00:59:18,564
the earlier sections later today

851
00:59:19,134 --> 00:59:20,202
at the 2:30 break.

852
00:59:20,202 --> 00:59:22,337
So I don't have a whole lot of

853
00:59:22,337 --> 00:59:23,838
questions to start us.

854
00:59:23,838 --> 00:59:25,607
Again, I am looking around the

855
00:59:25,607 --> 00:59:27,442
room if anyone wants to chime in

856
00:59:27,442 --> 00:59:27,642
just signal me.

857
00:59:27,642 --> 00:59:29,511
Okay.

858
00:59:29,511 --> 00:59:31,790
I do have one comment, though.

859
00:59:31,790 --> 00:59:35,117
And that is as we look at the

860
00:59:35,117 --> 00:59:37,850
community input, I think it is

861
00:59:37,850 --> 00:59:39,850
very difficult perhaps,

862
00:59:40,255 --> 00:59:41,389
dangerous for us to take

863
00:59:41,389 --> 00:59:44,389
nonscientific data and jam it

864
00:59:44,693 --> 00:59:46,328
into a scientific box and so

865
00:59:46,328 --> 00:59:49,328
with respect to the responses

866
00:59:50,499 --> 00:59:54,350
that we are receiving, I would

867
00:59:54,350 --> 00:59:55,400
caution us, again, and also pay

868
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,273
attention to the representatives

869
00:59:57,273 --> 00:59:59,775
who were elected in that

870
00:59:59,775 --> 01:00:01,376
district, a lot of times in lieu

871
01:00:01,376 --> 01:00:04,346
of the scientific data we do

872
01:00:04,346 --> 01:00:06,549
something like focus groups to

873
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:08,170
kind of dig into some of these

874
01:00:08,170 --> 01:00:09,151
answers, but, again, that is

875
01:00:09,151 --> 01:00:10,585
exactly what you have been

876
01:00:10,585 --> 01:00:12,210
doing, knocking on doors,

877
01:00:12,210 --> 01:00:13,822
talking to neighbors,

878
01:00:13,822 --> 01:00:15,224
understanding can our priorities

879
01:00:15,224 --> 01:00:16,993
and getting that kind of input

880
01:00:16,993 --> 01:00:19,861
so I really need to hear your

881
01:00:19,861 --> 01:00:21,263
feedback on those priorities, if

882
01:00:21,263 --> 01:00:23,298
there is something in there that

883
01:00:23,298 --> 01:00:25,100
you strongly free or disagree

884
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:27,236
with, but we will get into the

885
01:00:27,236 --> 01:00:28,637
discussion now and start with

886
01:00:28,637 --> 01:00:30,637
councilmember pelaez.

887
01:00:32,274 --> 01:00:33,108
>> Pelaez: thank you. Can you

888
01:00:33,108 --> 01:00:34,309
hear me?

889
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:36,309
Oh, yes.

890
01:00:36,846 --> 01:00:39,148
So jeff, excellent presentation.

891
01:00:39,148 --> 01:00:40,150
I am not surprised.

892
01:00:40,150 --> 01:00:41,817
I don't think anybody in this

893
01:00:41,817 --> 01:00:43,817
room is surprised.

894
01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:45,554
What always disappoints is the

895
01:00:45,554 --> 01:00:48,554
small number of respondent to

896
01:00:48,724 --> 01:00:49,958
these things and you know, 0

897
01:00:49,958 --> 01:00:50,926
COUNCILWOMAN Sandoval value has

898
01:00:50,926 --> 01:00:52,428
been working hard over to the

899
01:00:52,428 --> 01:00:53,729
past four years to help us

900
01:00:53,729 --> 01:00:53,996
figure out a way to increase

901
01:00:53,996 --> 01:00:55,996
this.

902
01:00:56,832 --> 01:01:00,136
And I think.. We need to

903
01:01:00,136 --> 01:01:02,138
continue to work really hard and

904
01:01:02,138 --> 01:01:04,106
pull every lever to make sure we

905
01:01:04,106 --> 01:01:07,106
get responses from young san

906
01:01:07,610 --> 01:01:09,912
antonio wraps you know, the

907
01:01:09,912 --> 01:01:12,948
other thing is, mayor, at this

908
01:01:12,948 --> 01:01:14,149
totally agree with COUNCILMAN

909
01:01:14,149 --> 01:01:15,651
Courage and you, this is

910
01:01:15,651 --> 01:01:17,352
supposed to a moral document but

911
01:01:17,352 --> 01:01:19,521
I will remind everybody I think

912
01:01:19,521 --> 01:01:21,723
last week, the week before last

913
01:01:21,723 --> 01:01:23,725
another woman in my district got

914
01:01:23,725 --> 01:01:24,726
murdered in front of her

915
01:01:24,726 --> 01:01:28,326
children and so, you know, just

916
01:01:29,798 --> 01:01:32,701
setting the tone here, for me,

917
01:01:32,701 --> 01:01:34,369
if we don't throw all of our

918
01:01:34,369 --> 01:01:36,606
weight behind domestic violence

919
01:01:36,606 --> 01:01:38,641
once and all this is an immoral

920
01:01:38,641 --> 01:01:42,241
document in any opinion, so I

921
01:01:42,645 --> 01:01:44,580
really want it to be a document

922
01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:46,282
that you know, puts lives ahead

923
01:01:46,282 --> 01:01:48,282
of other things.

924
01:01:49,886 --> 01:01:51,186
And so to that end, I saw the

925
01:01:51,186 --> 01:01:52,154
alamo promise funding proposal

926
01:01:52,154 --> 01:01:54,154
up there.

927
01:01:57,593 --> 01:02:01,564
I love it, but this week we saw

928
01:02:01,564 --> 01:02:02,732
governor veto hb, I think 1109,

929
01:02:02,732 --> 01:02:05,668
which would have man dayed all

930
01:02:05,668 --> 01:02:07,836
schools in texas to provide

931
01:02:07,836 --> 01:02:09,271
robust training on domestic

932
01:02:09,271 --> 01:02:11,271
violence, family violence,

933
01:02:12,908 --> 01:02:14,944
dating violence and child abuse.

934
01:02:14,944 --> 01:02:17,386
He doesn't think that is very

935
01:02:17,386 --> 01:02:17,713
important.

936
01:02:17,713 --> 01:02:19,548
So I think that we can condition

937
01:02:19,548 --> 01:02:21,316
-- I would like to explore as

938
01:02:21,316 --> 01:02:23,652
conditioning funding for alamo

939
01:02:23,652 --> 01:02:24,720
promise, on the promise that

940
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,121
schools provide that training

941
01:02:26,121 --> 01:02:27,223
that the governor would rather

942
01:02:27,223 --> 01:02:29,223
us not provide.

943
01:02:29,692 --> 01:02:31,261
Which I think would result in

944
01:02:31,261 --> 01:02:33,896
lives that wouldn't cost us any

945
01:02:33,896 --> 01:02:36,298
money and a it could be part of

946
01:02:36,298 --> 01:02:38,300
you know, the plan that we bake

947
01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:40,690
-- this domestic violence

948
01:02:40,690 --> 01:02:42,305
initiative that we could bake

949
01:02:42,305 --> 01:02:44,774
into the alamo promise, and it

950
01:02:44,774 --> 01:02:45,875
is a start, along with possibly

951
01:02:45,875 --> 01:02:46,509
punned -- you know, possibly

952
01:02:46,509 --> 01:02:47,910
requiring that kind of training

953
01:02:47,910 --> 01:02:49,178
for any other money that we

954
01:02:49,178 --> 01:02:50,146
provide to school district or

955
01:02:50,146 --> 01:02:51,614
think other kind of supervisor

956
01:02:51,614 --> 01:02:52,748
other we give them.

957
01:02:52,748 --> 01:02:55,585
Those are my comment for now.

958
01:02:55,585 --> 01:02:57,585
Thank you.

959
01:02:58,388 --> 01:03:00,560
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

960
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:00,690
Councilmember pelaez.

961
01:03:00,690 --> 01:03:02,910
Councilmember viagran.

962
01:03:02,910 --> 01:03:05,910
>> Viagran: ben, can you come

963
01:03:06,529 --> 01:03:10,129
up on slide 22 about the local

964
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:12,334
-- [Indiscernible] -- ..

965
01:03:12,334 --> 01:03:13,503
>> yes, ma'am.

966
01:03:13,503 --> 01:03:15,380
>> Viagran: when we look at

967
01:03:15,380 --> 01:03:17,339
that, because I think it would

968
01:03:17,339 --> 01:03:20,339
be some relief to possibly

969
01:03:21,377 --> 01:03:23,846
increase that, but I see saisd.

970
01:03:23,846 --> 01:03:26,649
Is there any way we can get it

971
01:03:26,649 --> 01:03:28,250
with the school districts in

972
01:03:28,250 --> 01:03:30,250
district 3?

973
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,880
Because I know harlandale is one

974
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:33,456
of -- their tax rate is higher

975
01:03:33,456 --> 01:03:33,656
than that.

976
01:03:33,656 --> 01:03:34,290
So --

977
01:03:34,290 --> 01:03:35,825
>> yes, ma'am.

978
01:03:35,825 --> 01:03:36,526
We can -- I think we asked that

979
01:03:36,526 --> 01:03:38,270
information before.

980
01:03:38,270 --> 01:03:38,962
We can pull that pretty easily

981
01:03:38,962 --> 01:03:40,897
and get that to you.

982
01:03:40,897 --> 01:03:41,965
>> Viagran: and south side and

983
01:03:41,965 --> 01:03:43,499
east central also.

984
01:03:43,499 --> 01:03:46,870
The other thing is, I know when

985
01:03:46,870 --> 01:03:48,571
we do these -- when we do these

986
01:03:48,571 --> 01:03:50,607
exemptions, it does impact other

987
01:03:50,607 --> 01:03:51,374
agency as, including the school

988
01:03:51,374 --> 01:03:52,274
district.

989
01:03:52,274 --> 01:03:55,244
So what I don't want to see from

990
01:03:55,244 --> 01:03:57,513
my district is we do a possible

991
01:03:57,513 --> 01:03:59,549
increase and then the school

992
01:03:59,549 --> 01:04:00,383
district has to raise taxes in

993
01:04:00,383 --> 01:04:02,383
their next bond.

994
01:04:02,619 --> 01:04:03,319
So if we could get that

995
01:04:03,319 --> 01:04:04,154
information.

996
01:04:04,154 --> 01:04:05,121
>> sure.

997
01:04:05,121 --> 01:04:05,721
And if I can claire guy one

998
01:04:05,721 --> 01:04:06,823
point there.

999
01:04:06,823 --> 01:04:07,990
So I think what we will do is

1000
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:08,858
bull the information for all of

1001
01:04:08,858 --> 01:04:10,293
those school districts and we

1002
01:04:10,293 --> 01:04:10,793
will send that to you so you

1003
01:04:10,793 --> 01:04:12,793
have that.

1004
01:04:12,995 --> 01:04:15,564
So when we adopt an exemption,

1005
01:04:15,564 --> 01:04:16,566
it stays, it only affects us and

1006
01:04:16,566 --> 01:04:18,100
our taxes.

1007
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:18,401
The same would be true of the

1008
01:04:18,401 --> 01:04:18,968
school district.

1009
01:04:18,968 --> 01:04:19,802
>> Viagran: okay.

1010
01:04:19,802 --> 01:04:21,337
All right.

1011
01:04:21,337 --> 01:04:21,504
If you could send that, thank

1012
01:04:21,504 --> 01:04:22,672
you.

1013
01:04:22,672 --> 01:04:23,740
>> yes, ma'am.

1014
01:04:23,740 --> 01:04:25,241
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

1015
01:04:25,241 --> 01:04:27,100
councilmember viagran.

1016
01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:28,411
Councilmember sandoval.

1017
01:04:28,411 --> 01:04:30,811
>> Sandoval: thank you, mayor.

1018
01:04:33,349 --> 01:04:35,251
I will start with the sa speak

1019
01:04:35,251 --> 01:04:37,687
up survey.. Thanks for the

1020
01:04:37,687 --> 01:04:40,870
shout out, councilmember pelaez,

1021
01:04:40,123 --> 01:04:42,392
just to add on to that, my

1022
01:04:42,392 --> 01:04:44,461
efforts over the past year, when

1023
01:04:44,461 --> 01:04:46,529
it comes to public participation

1024
01:04:46,529 --> 01:04:48,831
.. Isn't just about increasing

1025
01:04:48,831 --> 01:04:50,232
the number of people who

1026
01:04:50,232 --> 01:04:52,969
interact with the city but

1027
01:04:52,969 --> 01:04:54,770
improving the quality of how

1028
01:04:54,770 --> 01:04:56,372
they interact with the city and

1029
01:04:56,372 --> 01:04:58,608
ensuring that we have the tools

1030
01:04:58,608 --> 01:05:00,544
to listen to them and the many

1031
01:05:00,544 --> 01:05:01,978
ways they talk to us.

1032
01:05:01,978 --> 01:05:03,913
They don't only talk to us when

1033
01:05:03,913 --> 01:05:06,115
they fill out this survey.

1034
01:05:06,115 --> 01:05:06,515
In fact, I think survey is very

1035
01:05:06,515 --> 01:05:08,515
limiting, right?

1036
01:05:08,951 --> 01:05:11,387
It is in terms of the type of

1037
01:05:11,387 --> 01:05:12,856
nuanced feed pack we can get

1038
01:05:12,856 --> 01:05:14,856
back.

1039
01:05:16,826 --> 01:05:18,795
So what I had brought up during

1040
01:05:18,795 --> 01:05:21,195
our trial budget discussion

1041
01:05:21,297 --> 01:05:22,966
[Indiscernible] To explore that

1042
01:05:22,966 --> 01:05:25,902
option is listening to what

1043
01:05:25,902 --> 01:05:28,302
comes in through 311, listening

1044
01:05:28,605 --> 01:05:28,971
to what comes in through our a 0

1045
01:05:28,971 --> 01:05:30,971
council offices.

1046
01:05:31,942 --> 01:05:34,942
Every person around this table

1047
01:05:35,311 --> 01:05:36,779
has a set of you know, 2,000,

1048
01:05:36,779 --> 01:05:38,415
4,000, depending how long you

1049
01:05:38,415 --> 01:05:39,983
have been here cases that they

1050
01:05:39,983 --> 01:05:42,319
have worked on with members of

1051
01:05:42,319 --> 01:05:44,320
their community, cases that are

1052
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,320
very important to those people,

1053
01:05:47,824 --> 01:05:49,659
and they ask us you know,

1054
01:05:49,659 --> 01:05:50,560
policy, operational, for

1055
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,960
operational direction, and we

1056
01:05:53,530 --> 01:05:55,899
come here and we give that to

1057
01:05:55,899 --> 01:05:57,668
you and that drives the budget

1058
01:05:57,668 --> 01:06:01,868
asks that we make, but I think

1059
01:06:02,139 --> 01:06:04,174
it would also be behoove us to

1060
01:06:04,174 --> 01:06:06,609
sit down with city staff to

1061
01:06:06,609 --> 01:06:08,245
review those type of constituent

1062
01:06:08,245 --> 01:06:11,649
kay kiss and inquiries we get at

1063
01:06:11,649 --> 01:06:12,882
each of the counsel offices.

1064
01:06:12,882 --> 01:06:15,882
Secondly, thank you, invest, so

1065
01:06:16,586 --> 01:06:18,288
much for breaking this down by

1066
01:06:18,288 --> 01:06:19,122
tabs and the cross tabs you have

1067
01:06:19,122 --> 01:06:21,570
done.

1068
01:06:21,570 --> 01:06:22,625
I think that is giving us more

1069
01:06:22,625 --> 01:06:23,460
information than we would have

1070
01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:26,330
otherwise, but I do agree with

1071
01:06:26,330 --> 01:06:29,599
the mayor we want to be cautious

1072
01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:31,234
about how we interpret this.

1073
01:06:31,234 --> 01:06:34,304
Foyer one think it might be

1074
01:06:34,304 --> 01:06:37,641
confusing to fill out a survey

1075
01:06:37,641 --> 01:06:39,900
that says you know, cut --

1076
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:39,910
streets, economic development

1077
01:06:39,910 --> 01:06:43,113
planning, and I think we know

1078
01:06:43,113 --> 01:06:44,814
what that means and members of

1079
01:06:44,814 --> 01:06:45,810
the public MAY have different

1080
01:06:45,810 --> 01:06:45,982
concepts.

1081
01:06:45,982 --> 01:06:47,117
I am not saying they are wrong

1082
01:06:47,117 --> 01:06:48,252
at all.

1083
01:06:48,252 --> 01:06:49,686
I think economic development is

1084
01:06:49,686 --> 01:06:52,860
a very broad term.

1085
01:06:52,622 --> 01:06:54,457
It it is refers to ready to

1086
01:06:54,457 --> 01:06:56,260
work, to you know, our jobs

1087
01:06:56,260 --> 01:06:57,460
training program.

1088
01:06:57,460 --> 01:06:59,290
So I think we just want to be

1089
01:06:59,290 --> 01:07:01,331
careful about how we use that,

1090
01:07:01,331 --> 01:07:03,967
because my first thought was, we

1091
01:07:03,967 --> 01:07:05,269
MAY have cut the budget but we

1092
01:07:05,269 --> 01:07:06,836
sure put a lot of money into

1093
01:07:06,836 --> 01:07:08,171
economic development if we talk

1094
01:07:08,171 --> 01:07:11,171
about workforce training so it

1095
01:07:11,174 --> 01:07:12,476
almost seems like, like a

1096
01:07:12,476 --> 01:07:15,512
dissonance here, to put it on

1097
01:07:15,512 --> 01:07:17,512
this list.

1098
01:07:18,382 --> 01:07:21,982
And then lastly, ben, thank you

1099
01:07:22,553 --> 01:07:26,153
so much for that very careful

1100
01:07:27,791 --> 01:07:30,694
analysis of the property tax --

1101
01:07:30,694 --> 01:07:33,364
and how they are affected by our

1102
01:07:33,364 --> 01:07:35,764
different programs and proposing

1103
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:37,667
to reach out to residents to

1104
01:07:37,667 --> 01:07:40,337
sign them power play their

1105
01:07:40,337 --> 01:07:42,337
homestead exemption.

1106
01:07:42,506 --> 01:07:43,640
Are you saying we are going put

1107
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:44,374
that in the budget or there is

1108
01:07:44,374 --> 01:07:44,674
going to be a program for 0

1109
01:07:44,674 --> 01:07:46,674
that?

1110
01:07:47,344 --> 01:07:48,111
I think it is a great idea.

1111
01:07:48,111 --> 01:07:49,579
>> yes, ma'am.

1112
01:07:49,579 --> 01:07:52,950
I think that is our plan is we

1113
01:07:52,950 --> 01:07:54,752
are going develop a program with

1114
01:07:54,752 --> 01:07:57,121
the budget working with our

1115
01:07:57,121 --> 01:07:57,455
housing departments to really do

1116
01:07:57,455 --> 01:07:58,589
that outreach.

1117
01:07:58,589 --> 01:07:59,220
I know that the letters are

1118
01:07:59,220 --> 01:08:00,123
being sent.

1119
01:08:00,123 --> 01:08:03,427
I don't know that that is maybe

1120
01:08:03,427 --> 01:08:04,594
the most effective way to reach

1121
01:08:04,594 --> 01:08:07,431
some of the residents so we

1122
01:08:07,431 --> 01:08:08,565
really want to do more analysis

1123
01:08:08,565 --> 01:08:10,200
within each of your districts

1124
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,268
and pull a plan together and

1125
01:08:11,268 --> 01:08:13,370
would like to visit with you all

1126
01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:14,805
more about that plan and get

1127
01:08:14,805 --> 01:08:15,839
your terms in how to reach out

1128
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:17,974
to some of the residents so that

1129
01:08:17,974 --> 01:08:18,776
will be part of the plan going

1130
01:08:18,776 --> 01:08:19,877
forward, yes, ma'am.

1131
01:08:19,877 --> 01:08:21,877
>> Sandoval: thank you.

1132
01:08:24,114 --> 01:08:26,514
>> COUNCILWOMAN, if the public

1133
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:27,218
is getting a bexar county

1134
01:08:27,218 --> 01:08:29,319
appraisal district envelope that

1135
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:30,153
MAY not be the best way to

1136
01:08:30,153 --> 01:08:31,488
communicate.

1137
01:08:31,488 --> 01:08:31,688
I think what ben is talking

1138
01:08:31,688 --> 01:08:32,923
about.

1139
01:08:32,923 --> 01:08:34,491
The I would remind the council

1140
01:08:34,491 --> 01:08:36,394
that pre-pandemic this was an

1141
01:08:36,394 --> 01:08:37,995
issue that the council talk

1142
01:08:37,995 --> 01:08:39,730
about that I think in 2019 we

1143
01:08:39,730 --> 01:08:42,730
started to make inroads on.

1144
01:08:42,933 --> 01:08:44,301
We got away from that last year,

1145
01:08:44,301 --> 01:08:45,636
and I think some of the

1146
01:08:45,636 --> 01:08:48,636
conversation that was brought up

1147
01:08:50,375 --> 01:08:52,710
last week at b session, remind

1148
01:08:52,710 --> 01:08:53,878
reminded, get back into the

1149
01:08:53,878 --> 01:08:54,712
survey, how are we getting that

1150
01:08:54,712 --> 01:08:56,581
information to the public?

1151
01:08:56,581 --> 01:08:58,749
there needs to be a better way

1152
01:08:58,749 --> 01:09:00,985
to do that than maybe an

1153
01:09:00,985 --> 01:09:01,886
appraisal district envelope.

1154
01:09:01,886 --> 01:09:03,821
>> Sandoval: agreed.

1155
01:09:03,821 --> 01:09:05,123
Because that is how you sign up

1156
01:09:05,123 --> 01:09:06,891
to protest your property taxes

1157
01:09:06,891 --> 01:09:07,257
and not everybody does that as

1158
01:09:07,257 --> 01:09:08,392
well.

1159
01:09:08,392 --> 01:09:08,693
Good point, different

1160
01:09:08,693 --> 01:09:10,693
messengers.

1161
01:09:11,295 --> 01:09:12,730
And lastly, maybe this is

1162
01:09:12,730 --> 01:09:14,565
something we can discuss later,

1163
01:09:14,565 --> 01:09:17,301
but you talked about the

1164
01:09:17,301 --> 01:09:19,103
different relief we already

1165
01:09:19,103 --> 01:09:20,504
provide through the different

1166
01:09:20,504 --> 01:09:22,306
exemptions, and at some point in

1167
01:09:22,306 --> 01:09:23,841
this whole budget development

1168
01:09:23,841 --> 01:09:27,441
process you guys come back with

1169
01:09:27,953 --> 01:09:29,346
numbers about how much money is

1170
01:09:29,346 --> 01:09:31,415
being saved to the taxpayers

1171
01:09:31,415 --> 01:09:34,886
through this -- could you also

1172
01:09:34,886 --> 01:09:38,222
bring back to us sort of the

1173
01:09:38,222 --> 01:09:38,956
money being set aside -- is that

1174
01:09:38,956 --> 01:09:41,250
my rippinger for five minutes?

1175
01:09:41,250 --> 01:09:43,250
Thank you, tina.

1176
01:09:45,796 --> 01:09:47,665
For each of our different turs

1177
01:09:47,665 --> 01:09:49,633
zones, the money not sitting in

1178
01:09:49,633 --> 01:09:50,100
the general revenue fun but the

1179
01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:50,568
different pots?

1180
01:09:50,568 --> 01:09:52,270
>> yes.

1181
01:09:52,270 --> 01:09:54,405
We can provide a report on that

1182
01:09:54,405 --> 01:09:55,205
as well.

1183
01:09:55,205 --> 01:09:57,605
>> Sandoval: thank you a.

1184
01:09:57,809 --> 01:09:59,877
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

1185
01:09:59,877 --> 01:10:00,778
councilmember sandoval o

1186
01:10:00,778 --> 01:10:02,646
councilmember courage.

1187
01:10:02,646 --> 01:10:04,649
>> Courage:, thank you on the

1188
01:10:04,649 --> 01:10:05,983
speak out sa survey, I think

1189
01:10:05,983 --> 01:10:07,618
something was missing and I

1190
01:10:07,618 --> 01:10:09,953
think that is asking the people

1191
01:10:09,953 --> 01:10:10,354
who responded, what are your

1192
01:10:10,354 --> 01:10:12,354
needs?

1193
01:10:13,570 --> 01:10:14,892
I mean, we gave them choices but

1194
01:10:14,892 --> 01:10:16,728
we didn't really ask them, what

1195
01:10:16,728 --> 01:10:17,361
do you need or what does your

1196
01:10:17,361 --> 01:10:18,929
neighborhood need?

1197
01:10:18,929 --> 01:10:22,660
And I think that has a great

1198
01:10:22,660 --> 01:10:24,736
value to us as we look forward,

1199
01:10:24,736 --> 01:10:27,205
because we are already siloing a

1200
01:10:27,205 --> 01:10:28,105
lot of money and -- in a lot of

1201
01:10:28,105 --> 01:10:29,940
areas and we are assuming that

1202
01:10:29,940 --> 01:10:31,743
these are the major areas, but

1203
01:10:31,743 --> 01:10:33,211
there could be some others that

1204
01:10:33,211 --> 01:10:34,912
we don't identify because we are

1205
01:10:34,912 --> 01:10:35,913
not asking the community, what

1206
01:10:35,913 --> 01:10:36,347
do you need.

1207
01:10:36,347 --> 01:10:37,515
>> Mayor Nirenberg:.

1208
01:10:37,515 --> 01:10:39,416
>> we are saying what do you

1209
01:10:39,416 --> 01:10:40,384
like out of our choices?

1210
01:10:40,384 --> 01:10:41,853
So I would just like to

1211
01:10:41,853 --> 01:10:43,754
recommend that somehow going

1212
01:10:43,754 --> 01:10:46,754
forward and in the future.

1213
01:10:48,260 --> 01:10:50,961
I noticed on the trial budget

1214
01:10:50,961 --> 01:10:53,961
information, we have listed a

1215
01:10:57,602 --> 01:11:00,200
pool of compensation of

1216
01:11:01,206 --> 01:11:02,207
three percent.. And does that

1217
01:11:02,207 --> 01:11:02,840
include, you know, total pay

1218
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,840
raises?

1219
01:11:05,376 --> 01:11:05,743
Does that include index for

1220
01:11:05,743 --> 01:11:07,743
inflation?

1221
01:11:11,649 --> 01:11:13,918
Does that include the pay we

1222
01:11:13,918 --> 01:11:15,853
give for performance bonuses?

1223
01:11:15,853 --> 01:11:19,591
Is all of that thrown into that

1224
01:11:19,591 --> 01:11:21,259
three percent or is that just

1225
01:11:21,259 --> 01:11:23,561
basic salary, not including

1226
01:11:23,561 --> 01:11:25,730
performance bonuses or not

1227
01:11:25,730 --> 01:11:27,232
including cost of living?

1228
01:11:27,232 --> 01:11:28,666
Because it is not a very big

1229
01:11:28,666 --> 01:11:29,734
amount considering we didn't

1230
01:11:29,734 --> 01:11:30,869
give anything last year.

1231
01:11:30,869 --> 01:11:32,337
So I would like to know the

1232
01:11:32,337 --> 01:11:33,938
thinking behind that

1233
01:11:33,938 --> 01:11:34,839
approximately at three percent.

1234
01:11:34,839 --> 01:11:35,807
>> okay.

1235
01:11:35,807 --> 01:11:37,807
Thank you, COUNCILMAN.

1236
01:11:39,210 --> 01:11:41,879
So the trial budget only set

1237
01:11:41,879 --> 01:11:44,216
aside the value of three percent

1238
01:11:44,216 --> 01:11:47,352
of every civilian, and as we go

1239
01:11:47,352 --> 01:11:48,519
through the JULY, we will the

1240
01:11:48,519 --> 01:11:50,919
include within the proposed

1241
01:11:51,756 --> 01:11:54,159
budget how that looks, and so

1242
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:55,693
how that looks, has looked in

1243
01:11:55,693 --> 01:11:57,328
past years is that for

1244
01:11:57,328 --> 01:11:59,197
professionals and managers, the

1245
01:11:59,197 --> 01:12:01,299
it is equivalent of a

1246
01:12:01,299 --> 01:12:04,368
three percent pool set aside for

1247
01:12:04,368 --> 01:12:07,339
performance a and then those in

1248
01:12:07,339 --> 01:12:09,339
our other 4,500 employees,

1249
01:12:10,909 --> 01:12:11,576
three percent across the board

1250
01:12:11,576 --> 01:12:12,911
wage increase.

1251
01:12:12,911 --> 01:12:15,280
so that we are talking about the

1252
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,449
same pot of money.

1253
01:12:17,449 --> 01:12:18,984
If anything, what I am thinking

1254
01:12:18,984 --> 01:12:22,153
is it needs to be across the

1255
01:12:22,153 --> 01:12:23,989
board and not a cola, and we

1256
01:12:23,989 --> 01:12:26,558
will work through those details.

1257
01:12:26,558 --> 01:12:29,761
But the value of that money is

1258
01:12:29,761 --> 01:12:32,161
.. Three percent of every

1259
01:12:32,631 --> 01:12:33,798
civilian's salary.

1260
01:12:33,798 --> 01:12:35,100
>> Courage: yes that appears

1261
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,301
to be too small.

1262
01:12:36,301 --> 01:12:37,769
You saying nothing last year,

1263
01:12:37,769 --> 01:12:38,803
this year three percent.

1264
01:12:38,803 --> 01:12:40,239
So over the last two years

1265
01:12:40,239 --> 01:12:43,942
people have gotten a one and a

1266
01:12:43,942 --> 01:12:45,110
half percent increase in their

1267
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:47,110
pay, and it

1268
01:12:47,512 --> 01:12:49,912
-- it isn't including

1269
01:12:50,482 --> 01:12:52,217
performance for high performing,

1270
01:12:52,217 --> 01:12:53,251
which I don't often think is

1271
01:12:53,251 --> 01:12:55,553
something that we have to put

1272
01:12:55,553 --> 01:12:57,456
out there, but I think there is

1273
01:12:57,456 --> 01:12:59,591
some kind of a value to that in

1274
01:12:59,591 --> 01:13:01,192
some situations.

1275
01:13:01,192 --> 01:13:01,927
And then, you know, you are

1276
01:13:01,927 --> 01:13:04,763
saying cost of living is

1277
01:13:04,763 --> 01:13:06,298
included in there, and so,

1278
01:13:06,298 --> 01:13:07,333
really, you are not getting any

1279
01:13:07,333 --> 01:13:08,666
kind of a pay increase when you

1280
01:13:08,666 --> 01:13:09,934
talk about the cost of living

1281
01:13:09,934 --> 01:13:11,103
that people have been paying for

1282
01:13:11,103 --> 01:13:13,103
two years.

1283
01:13:13,372 --> 01:13:14,239
So I am going to want to

1284
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:16,239
to have a

1285
01:13:16,341 --> 01:13:18,243
lot more conversation about that

1286
01:13:18,243 --> 01:13:20,879
amount as far as compensation

1287
01:13:20,879 --> 01:13:22,547
goes for our employees.

1288
01:13:22,547 --> 01:13:25,617
The last thing I wanted to talk

1289
01:13:25,617 --> 01:13:28,119
about was going back to taxes

1290
01:13:28,119 --> 01:13:30,119
and tax relief.

1291
01:13:32,124 --> 01:13:35,661
Ben, you provided a very good

1292
01:13:35,661 --> 01:13:37,496
synopsis of what it would take

1293
01:13:37,496 --> 01:13:39,640
if it was recommended from this

1294
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:40,966
council that we would increase

1295
01:13:40,966 --> 01:13:42,734
that homestead exemption,

1296
01:13:42,734 --> 01:13:44,360
whether we increased it to

1297
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,436
one percent, two percent,

1298
01:13:46,705 --> 01:13:47,139
three percent, four percent or

1299
01:13:47,139 --> 01:13:48,707
five percent.

1300
01:13:48,707 --> 01:13:49,741
Have you distributed that to all

1301
01:13:49,741 --> 01:13:51,741
of the councilmembers?

1302
01:13:51,811 --> 01:13:53,278
>>, no I have not.

1303
01:13:53,278 --> 01:13:54,680
>> Courage: do you have it you

1304
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:54,880
could put up on the screen do

1305
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:55,948
show?

1306
01:13:55,948 --> 01:13:57,683
>> yes, sir, I do.

1307
01:13:57,683 --> 01:13:59,117
>> Courage: I think it would

1308
01:13:59,117 --> 01:14:01,653
be good for everybody to see

1309
01:14:01,653 --> 01:14:04,589
that, so that we have an

1310
01:14:04,589 --> 01:14:07,260
indication of what the options

1311
01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:10,280
are if we are going to provide

1312
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:10,829
any tax relief for working

1313
01:14:10,829 --> 01:14:13,229
families in the city.

1314
01:14:16,369 --> 01:14:18,370
And that is really

1315
01:14:18,370 --> 01:14:18,603
and that's what we're really

1316
01:14:18,603 --> 01:14:20,603
talking about.

1317
01:14:20,672 --> 01:14:22,541
Yes, 45% of our tax base is

1318
01:14:22,541 --> 01:14:23,175
frozen because of people with

1319
01:14:23,175 --> 01:14:25,577
disabilities, or people who are

1320
01:14:25,577 --> 01:14:27,479
over 65.

1321
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,781
The other 55 of those people are

1322
01:14:29,781 --> 01:14:31,781
working families.

1323
01:14:34,553 --> 01:14:38,153
And they are seeing the values

1324
01:14:45,364 --> 01:14:46,998
of [Lapse in audio].

1325
01:14:46,998 --> 01:14:49,168
--- estimate for this year's

1326
01:14:49,168 --> 01:14:49,401
budget, and help replace lost

1327
01:14:49,401 --> 01:14:51,401
revenue.

1328
01:14:52,237 --> 01:14:54,440
And the likelihood that there

1329
01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:56,174
will be other avenues that we

1330
01:14:56,174 --> 01:14:57,109
could pursue with some of that

1331
01:14:57,109 --> 01:14:59,109
federal money.

1332
01:14:59,478 --> 01:15:01,179
I'd like to see us, as a

1333
01:15:01,179 --> 01:15:03,148
council, look at those kinds of

1334
01:15:03,148 --> 01:15:05,548
numbers and understand that

1335
01:15:08,220 --> 01:15:11,220
there's a possibility that for

1336
01:15:11,490 --> 01:15:13,492
7, $8 million of our budget, we

1337
01:15:13,492 --> 01:15:14,326
could increase the tax relief

1338
01:15:14,326 --> 01:15:15,861
that we need.

1339
01:15:15,861 --> 01:15:19,632
So I'd ask you to present that

1340
01:15:19,632 --> 01:15:19,866
as part of this presentation.

1341
01:15:19,866 --> 01:15:21,866
>> sure.

1342
01:15:23,869 --> 01:15:26,269
Happy to do that.

1343
01:15:29,208 --> 01:15:31,444
We've got slides that I can go

1344
01:15:31,444 --> 01:15:33,444
through as well.

1345
01:15:33,846 --> 01:15:35,947
I'll start with this one.

1346
01:15:35,947 --> 01:15:38,317
The slide that we talked about.

1347
01:15:38,317 --> 01:15:38,484
So let me explain this a little

1348
01:15:38,484 --> 01:15:40,319
bit.

1349
01:15:40,319 --> 01:15:42,588
This is kind of giving you a

1350
01:15:42,588 --> 01:15:43,990
snapshot of what our current

1351
01:15:43,990 --> 01:15:45,358
exemption looks like, and then

1352
01:15:45,358 --> 01:15:48,895
if you were to increase it.

1353
01:15:48,895 --> 01:15:50,863
So on the far left, we've given

1354
01:15:50,863 --> 01:15:54,670
you some examples of a homestead

1355
01:15:54,670 --> 01:15:54,467
value ranging from 100,000 to

1356
01:15:54,467 --> 01:15:56,268
600,000.

1357
01:15:56,268 --> 01:15:57,603
It's showing you the total

1358
01:15:57,603 --> 01:15:59,504
taxes, not just the city's

1359
01:15:59,504 --> 01:16:02,508
portion of that, but the total

1360
01:16:02,508 --> 01:16:04,209
tax bill on those homes.

1361
01:16:04,209 --> 01:16:05,378
It shows you the city's tax bill

1362
01:16:05,378 --> 01:16:07,790
next to that.

1363
01:16:07,790 --> 01:16:09,415
And then as I mentioned before,

1364
01:16:09,415 --> 01:16:11,517
when the council adopted the

1365
01:16:11,517 --> 01:16:12,685
homestead exemption, we had to

1366
01:16:12,685 --> 01:16:14,685
adopt a personal.

1367
01:16:15,588 --> 01:16:16,856
But we did.01%.

1368
01:16:16,856 --> 01:16:19,592
It was intentional to trigger

1369
01:16:19,592 --> 01:16:21,592
the minimum $5,000 that's

1370
01:16:22,461 --> 01:16:24,496
allowed under state law.

1371
01:16:24,496 --> 01:16:25,598
So you can see currently,

1372
01:16:25,598 --> 01:16:27,998
regardless of whether we're

1373
01:16:28,101 --> 01:16:30,501
talking about $100,000 home or

1374
01:16:31,137 --> 01:16:32,572
$600,000 home, [Lapse in audio]

1375
01:16:32,572 --> 01:16:34,972
Taxable value exemption, that

1376
01:16:35,808 --> 01:16:37,760
results in $28 a year in

1377
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:38,611
property tax savings.

1378
01:16:38,611 --> 01:16:41,347
Now, I'm going to switch to the

1379
01:16:41,347 --> 01:16:43,749
right side, and talk a little

1380
01:16:43,749 --> 01:16:46,149
bit about the incremental

1381
01:16:46,151 --> 01:16:46,952
impact, if we were to move

1382
01:16:46,952 --> 01:16:47,386
towards increasing that

1383
01:16:47,386 --> 01:16:49,188
exemption.

1384
01:16:49,188 --> 01:16:49,488
So I'm going to try to do this

1385
01:16:49,488 --> 01:16:51,488
quickly.

1386
01:16:52,825 --> 01:16:56,425
If you look at the 1% column,

1387
01:16:56,462 --> 01:16:59,132
you see zeros all the way down,

1388
01:16:59,132 --> 01:16:59,599
with the exception of a [Lapse

1389
01:16:59,599 --> 01:17:01,599
in audio] Home.

1390
01:17:03,169 --> 01:17:06,769
Why is that, because 1% of those

1391
01:17:06,839 --> 01:17:08,730
values, less than $500,000, is

1392
01:17:08,730 --> 01:17:10,343
less than a $500 exemption.

1393
01:17:10,343 --> 01:17:12,440
So they're not going to get

1394
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:14,444
additional property tax savings.

1395
01:17:14,814 --> 01:17:16,382
The only homes that would get it

1396
01:17:16,382 --> 01:17:19,382
have a taxable value greater

1397
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,521
than 500,000.

1398
01:17:22,521 --> 01:17:22,755
[Lapse in audio] $95,000 to the

1399
01:17:22,755 --> 01:17:23,723
city.

1400
01:17:23,723 --> 01:17:27,627
I'm going to flip all the way to

1401
01:17:27,627 --> 01:17:28,928
the far right.

1402
01:17:28,928 --> 01:17:30,620
Again, under state law, you can

1403
01:17:30,620 --> 01:17:32,699
go up to 20% is the total that's

1404
01:17:32,699 --> 01:17:34,699
allowed.

1405
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:37,703
We're just giving a range here

1406
01:17:37,703 --> 01:17:39,305
of 1 to 5.

1407
01:17:39,305 --> 01:17:42,842
[Lapse in audio] You can see the

1408
01:17:42,842 --> 01:17:44,644
cost to the city on the bottom.

1409
01:17:44,644 --> 01:17:45,644
[Lapse in audio] You see the

1410
01:17:45,644 --> 01:17:46,479
$100,000 value I have listed

1411
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,448
there.

1412
01:17:48,448 --> 01:17:50,848
There's no incremental savings

1413
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,320
to the homeowner, because

1414
01:18:00,260 --> 01:18:01,761
(Indiscernible) Is still $5,000.

1415
01:18:01,761 --> 01:18:03,162
So there would be no additional

1416
01:18:03,162 --> 01:18:05,498
property tax savings there.

1417
01:18:05,498 --> 01:18:07,266
You see $200,000, they would go

1418
01:18:07,266 --> 01:18:10,266
from the current $28 that they

1419
01:18:10,503 --> 01:18:12,839
get a year, they would get an

1420
01:18:12,839 --> 01:18:13,707
additional (Indiscernible) In

1421
01:18:13,707 --> 01:18:15,707
property tax savings.

1422
01:18:16,776 --> 01:18:19,776
And to the $600,000 home, you

1423
01:18:22,949 --> 01:18:24,949
get $139 in savings.

1424
01:18:26,219 --> 01:18:30,419
And again, based on the 5% of a

1425
01:18:31,658 --> 01:18:33,960
$600,000 home, is [Lapse in

1426
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:35,960
audio] Incremental impact.

1427
01:18:35,962 --> 01:18:38,432
I'll point out with the 139,

1428
01:18:38,432 --> 01:18:41,634
just keep that in context, that

1429
01:18:41,634 --> 01:18:42,669
homeowner at 600,000 is probably

1430
01:18:42,669 --> 01:18:43,236
paying somewhere around

1431
01:18:43,236 --> 01:18:45,236
(Indiscernible) In property

1432
01:18:45,538 --> 01:18:47,538
taxes.

1433
01:18:48,241 --> 01:18:49,508
To generate that savings, that

1434
01:18:49,508 --> 01:18:51,908
incremental savings I've got

1435
01:18:54,114 --> 01:18:54,781
listed there, the impact is $7.3

1436
01:18:54,781 --> 01:18:57,181
million to the city.

1437
01:18:58,652 --> 01:18:58,986
That would be $.5 million in the

1438
01:18:58,986 --> 01:19:00,986
general fund.

1439
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,222
Let me stop for a second.

1440
01:19:03,222 --> 01:19:04,323
For the new councilmembers, when

1441
01:19:04,323 --> 01:19:06,727
we adopted our tax rate, when we

1442
01:19:06,727 --> 01:19:10,327
come to you in the budget

1443
01:19:12,198 --> 01:19:15,198
process, we actually ask you

1444
01:19:18,772 --> 01:19:18,939
[Lapse in audio] One's called

1445
01:19:18,939 --> 01:19:20,939
mamt

1446
01:19:21,308 --> 01:19:21,775
maintenance tax for the basic

1447
01:19:21,775 --> 01:19:22,409
services.

1448
01:19:22,409 --> 01:19:25,345
The second one supports our bond

1449
01:19:25,345 --> 01:19:27,345
capacity.

1450
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:29,682
So in this example, the general

1451
01:19:29,682 --> 01:19:31,751
fund impact would be about $.5

1452
01:19:31,751 --> 01:19:34,151
million in lost revenue.

1453
01:19:34,654 --> 01:19:36,689
The increment lost to the debt

1454
01:19:36,689 --> 01:19:38,625
service fund is $2.8 million in

1455
01:19:38,625 --> 01:19:40,860
revenue, but on that side we use

1456
01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:41,461
the revenue to generate bond

1457
01:19:41,461 --> 01:19:43,229
capacity.

1458
01:19:43,229 --> 01:19:45,198
If you take the (Indiscernible)

1459
01:19:45,198 --> 01:19:46,567
And I look at the interest of

1460
01:19:46,567 --> 01:19:48,668
the environment we're in now, I

1461
01:19:48,668 --> 01:19:49,936
expect it to be for the next

1462
01:19:49,936 --> 01:19:52,336
several years, that probably

1463
01:19:52,372 --> 01:19:53,906
leverages in the neighborhood of

1464
01:19:53,906 --> 01:19:56,306
45 to $50 million in debt

1465
01:19:57,877 --> 01:19:59,346
capacity, or project capacity.

1466
01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:00,847
I have other slides that have

1467
01:20:00,847 --> 01:20:02,148
other stats that I can go

1468
01:20:02,148 --> 01:20:02,649
through, or we can stop there at

1469
01:20:02,649 --> 01:20:04,649
this point.

1470
01:20:05,585 --> 01:20:07,420
But this kind of summarizes the

1471
01:20:07,420 --> 01:20:09,456
impact in terms if we were to

1472
01:20:09,456 --> 01:20:10,957
increase the exemption.

1473
01:20:10,957 --> 01:20:12,326
>> Courage: thank you, ben.

1474
01:20:12,326 --> 01:20:13,260
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

1475
01:20:13,260 --> 01:20:15,260
councilmember courage.

1476
01:20:15,896 --> 01:20:18,832
Just so I'm clear on that bottom

1477
01:20:18,832 --> 01:20:21,232
line, that homestead value,

1478
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,360
total tax bill is roughly

1479
01:20:27,207 --> 01:20:27,608
$16,517 with 5% exemption on the

1480
01:20:27,608 --> 01:20:29,608
homestead.

1481
01:20:30,310 --> 01:20:33,310
The homeowner would [Lapse in

1482
01:20:33,613 --> 01:20:34,614
audio] In relief.

1483
01:20:34,614 --> 01:20:36,614
>> yes.

1484
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:40,860
Actually, off the city tax bill,

1485
01:20:40,860 --> 01:20:40,854
the taxable bill is 16,500.

1486
01:20:40,854 --> 01:20:41,989
>> Mayor Nirenberg: that's less

1487
01:20:41,989 --> 01:20:42,189
than 1% off their total tax

1488
01:20:42,189 --> 01:20:43,590
bill.

1489
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:45,590
>> yes.

1490
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,160
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay.

1491
01:20:51,164 --> 01:20:52,365
Councilmember rocha garcia.

1492
01:20:52,365 --> 01:20:52,699
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you,

1493
01:20:52,699 --> 01:20:54,368
mayor.

1494
01:20:54,368 --> 01:20:56,768
And thank you, ben.

1495
01:20:57,700 --> 01:20:58,404
Since you have it up, we met

1496
01:20:58,404 --> 01:21:01,108
yesterday and I asked you if you

1497
01:21:01,108 --> 01:21:02,142
had the average of value of

1498
01:21:02,142 --> 01:21:02,543
homestead (Indiscernible) In my

1499
01:21:02,543 --> 01:21:03,843
district.

1500
01:21:03,843 --> 01:21:05,790
I was trying to figure out how

1501
01:21:05,790 --> 01:21:08,679
many of my residents would be

1502
01:21:09,182 --> 01:21:09,349
able to benefit if we went to a

1503
01:21:09,349 --> 01:21:11,349
5%.

1504
01:21:12,552 --> 01:21:14,552
>> I do.

1505
01:21:23,129 --> 01:21:25,129
[Lapse in audio]

1506
01:21:25,766 --> 01:21:27,766
[Lost audio].

1507
01:21:28,502 --> 01:21:30,170
>> real quick, comparison to

1508
01:21:30,170 --> 01:21:33,170
other texas cities, because that

1509
01:21:34,842 --> 01:21:36,977
has come up often, I shared this

1510
01:21:36,977 --> 01:21:38,578
slide with COUNCILMAN Courage.

1511
01:21:38,578 --> 01:21:41,578
You'll note that houston, austin

1512
01:21:43,884 --> 01:21:45,486
and dallas have higher [Lapse in

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01:21:45,486 --> 01:21:46,453
audio]

1514
01:21:46,453 --> 01:21:48,880
Audio].

1515
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,591
If you look to the far right,

1516
01:21:50,591 --> 01:21:52,459
one big difference between those

1517
01:21:52,459 --> 01:21:53,590
cities, I mentioned the senior

1518
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:53,594
tax increase.

1519
01:21:53,594 --> 01:21:55,594
They do not.

1520
01:21:57,363 --> 01:21:58,465
So that means that all the

1521
01:21:58,465 --> 01:21:59,967
homesteads in those cities

1522
01:21:59,967 --> 01:22:01,902
increased every year.

1523
01:22:01,902 --> 01:22:05,172
45% of ours, that slide I showed

1524
01:22:05,172 --> 01:22:07,607
you before, once you hit 65, the

1525
01:22:07,607 --> 01:22:10,700
tax bill stops growing.

1526
01:22:10,944 --> 01:22:12,944
It's locked in

1527
01:22:16,650 --> 01:22:19,650
things, also, the tax rate.

1528
01:22:21,555 --> 01:22:24,257
The average homestead -- you can

1529
01:22:24,257 --> 01:22:24,959
see austin at $400,000.

1530
01:22:24,959 --> 01:22:27,959
That's the average homestead in

1531
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:29,363
austin.

1532
01:22:29,363 --> 01:22:31,298
I just wanted to give you a

1533
01:22:31,298 --> 01:22:33,267
little bit of context as you

1534
01:22:33,267 --> 01:22:34,568
look at and compare us to other

1535
01:22:34,568 --> 01:22:35,936
cities, that it's kind of

1536
01:22:35,936 --> 01:22:37,104
important to look at all of

1537
01:22:37,104 --> 01:22:39,104
those elements.

1538
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:41,708
I think the senior tax freeze is

1539
01:22:41,708 --> 01:22:42,309
certainly a great option that we

1540
01:22:42,309 --> 01:22:45,909
offer here, when you turn age

1541
01:22:46,780 --> 01:22:48,349
65.

1542
01:22:48,349 --> 01:22:51,349
You asked about market value,

1543
01:22:54,321 --> 01:22:58,521
and we were able to pull taxable

1544
01:22:58,759 --> 01:22:59,893
value.

1545
01:22:59,893 --> 01:23:00,160
[Lapse in audio] In each of your

1546
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,160
districts.

1547
01:23:03,597 --> 01:23:06,166
I hope that can lead to also

1548
01:23:06,166 --> 01:23:07,340
options for us to pursue in the

1549
01:23:07,340 --> 01:23:09,340
next legislative session.

1550
01:23:09,971 --> 01:23:10,771
Because we really need

1551
01:23:10,771 --> 01:23:12,806
additional options and tools

1552
01:23:12,806 --> 01:23:13,974
that allow us to be more

1553
01:23:13,974 --> 01:23:15,276
strategic, how we address

1554
01:23:15,276 --> 01:23:16,544
property tax relief.

1555
01:23:16,544 --> 01:23:17,578
It is very different when you

1556
01:23:17,578 --> 01:23:19,978
look across the city.

1557
01:23:19,980 --> 01:23:22,380
You see that here.

1558
01:23:23,551 --> 01:23:27,751
You see a pretty big range in

1559
01:23:27,788 --> 01:23:29,757
value here from the market value

1560
01:23:29,757 --> 01:23:31,425
[Lapse in audio] $88,000 in

1561
01:23:31,425 --> 01:23:35,250
district 5, out to a high of

1562
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:38,999
almost 322,000 in district 9.

1563
01:23:38,999 --> 01:23:41,399
The difference between the

1564
01:23:41,869 --> 01:23:42,169
marketable and taxable value is

1565
01:23:42,169 --> 01:23:44,169
exemptions.

1566
01:23:45,739 --> 01:23:47,700
Over 65, those freezes come into

1567
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:48,742
play.

1568
01:23:48,742 --> 01:23:51,742
Average taxable [Lapse in audio]

1569
01:23:55,182 --> 01:23:57,952
Up to about 267,000 in d-9.

1570
01:23:57,952 --> 01:24:00,321
This is just, really quickly,

1571
01:24:00,321 --> 01:24:02,721
just looking at different

1572
01:24:03,791 --> 01:24:04,758
homestead values, less than

1573
01:24:04,758 --> 01:24:06,758
100,000.

1574
01:24:08,229 --> 01:24:09,230
100,000 to 200,000, and it goes

1575
01:24:09,230 --> 01:24:11,230
on down.

1576
01:24:13,434 --> 01:24:15,470
Of the homesteads in the bexar

1577
01:24:15,470 --> 01:24:18,470
appraisal district, it was about

1578
01:24:18,973 --> 01:24:21,973
85% of our homesteads have a

1579
01:24:23,611 --> 01:24:24,177
value of less than $300,000.

1580
01:24:24,177 --> 01:24:25,546
If you look across the city.

1581
01:24:25,546 --> 01:24:27,381
I just went over this slide.

1582
01:24:27,381 --> 01:24:29,784
And I had one other one, just to

1583
01:24:29,784 --> 01:24:32,519
try to help a little bit with

1584
01:24:32,519 --> 01:24:34,322
the previous -- with this slide,

1585
01:24:34,322 --> 01:24:37,925
sort of why is there not an

1586
01:24:37,925 --> 01:24:38,525
impact at the $100,000 level.

1587
01:24:38,525 --> 01:24:40,525
It's this.

1588
01:24:40,961 --> 01:24:42,229
Bars on the left there, again,

1589
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:44,640
100,000 to 600,000.

1590
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,467
We currently have in place

1591
01:24:46,467 --> 01:24:48,467
the.01 exemption.

1592
01:24:50,370 --> 01:24:52,437
Because it's less than $5,000,

1593
01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:52,873
it triggers minimum under state

1594
01:24:52,873 --> 01:24:54,208
law.

1595
01:24:54,208 --> 01:24:55,309
It doesn't matter what the value

1596
01:24:55,309 --> 01:24:56,410
of the home is.

1597
01:24:56,410 --> 01:24:58,410
It's $5,000.

1598
01:24:59,130 --> 01:25:01,480
When we move to 5% exemption,

1599
01:25:01,480 --> 01:25:03,818
it's 5% of the home value.

1600
01:25:03,818 --> 01:25:05,818
5% of 100,000 is still 5,000,

1601
01:25:06,954 --> 01:25:07,521
that's why they're not getting

1602
01:25:07,521 --> 01:25:07,755
any additional property tax

1603
01:25:07,755 --> 01:25:08,956
relief.

1604
01:25:08,956 --> 01:25:11,592
The higher the value of the

1605
01:25:11,592 --> 01:25:13,628
home, the bigger the exemption.

1606
01:25:13,628 --> 01:25:16,628
The $600,000 home in this case

1607
01:25:16,764 --> 01:25:17,640
would be $30,000 taxable

1608
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,266
exemption.

1609
01:25:18,266 --> 01:25:20,468
It's based on that percentage.

1610
01:25:20,468 --> 01:25:22,270
Again, this is one of the

1611
01:25:22,270 --> 01:25:24,172
reasons we were trying to give

1612
01:25:24,172 --> 01:25:25,540
the ability to offer a fixed

1613
01:25:25,540 --> 01:25:27,540
dollar amount exemption.

1614
01:25:28,909 --> 01:25:30,478
We've not been able to get that

1615
01:25:30,478 --> 01:25:32,847
passed at the legislature yet.

1616
01:25:32,847 --> 01:25:35,516
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you, ben.

1617
01:25:35,516 --> 01:25:36,584
I think [Lapse in audio] I think

1618
01:25:36,584 --> 01:25:40,184
that's the only way we're going

1619
01:25:40,555 --> 01:25:42,955
to make it meaningful.

1620
01:25:42,957 --> 01:25:44,492
Somebody pointed out earlier

1621
01:25:44,492 --> 01:25:47,492
that they don't read the

1622
01:25:47,562 --> 01:25:48,290
envelopes from the bexar county

1623
01:25:48,290 --> 01:25:48,829
appraisal district.

1624
01:25:48,829 --> 01:25:49,564
And we do.

1625
01:25:49,564 --> 01:25:51,632
It works for some people.

1626
01:25:51,632 --> 01:25:54,320
For some it doesn't.

1627
01:25:55,723 --> 01:25:55,865
I want to tell you, and I shared

1628
01:25:55,865 --> 01:25:59,400
this with ben, but I had a

1629
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,643
meeting with troy elliott and

1630
01:26:01,643 --> 01:26:03,878
the folks, I think on monday,

1631
01:26:03,878 --> 01:26:05,379
and they came in with boxes and

1632
01:26:05,379 --> 01:26:06,581
binders for me and the tax code.

1633
01:26:06,581 --> 01:26:08,981
It was really interesting,

1634
01:26:09,170 --> 01:26:10,840
because they said no

1635
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:11,586
councilmember in 18 years had

1636
01:26:11,586 --> 01:26:13,388
asked for a meeting with them.

1637
01:26:13,388 --> 01:26:14,555
So I think before we make any

1638
01:26:14,555 --> 01:26:16,524
decisions, we should probably

1639
01:26:16,524 --> 01:26:18,126
make sure that they come in and

1640
01:26:18,126 --> 01:26:20,526
they talk to us.

1641
01:26:21,529 --> 01:26:23,264
And maybe I would offer that you

1642
01:26:23,264 --> 01:26:24,832
meet [Lapse in audio] I went

1643
01:26:24,832 --> 01:26:27,232
through their proposed budget

1644
01:26:28,303 --> 01:26:30,505
for 2022, and I had lots of

1645
01:26:30,505 --> 01:26:31,639
questions, and (Indiscernible)

1646
01:26:31,639 --> 01:26:34,639
Can attest that he answered

1647
01:26:35,777 --> 01:26:37,912
every one of my questions.

1648
01:26:37,912 --> 01:26:40,482
I was very impressed [Lapse in

1649
01:26:40,482 --> 01:26:42,550
audio] With the folks.

1650
01:26:42,550 --> 01:26:46,750
I'd be afraid of, if we don't

1651
01:26:48,490 --> 01:26:48,689
have all of the information for

1652
01:26:48,689 --> 01:26:49,324
this.

1653
01:26:49,324 --> 01:26:50,258
Also be cautious about what it

1654
01:26:50,258 --> 01:26:50,625
does in regards to social

1655
01:26:50,625 --> 01:26:52,625
services.

1656
01:26:53,327 --> 01:26:55,397
Because we saw out there, for

1657
01:26:55,397 --> 01:26:57,797
instance [Lapse in audio]

1658
01:26:59,667 --> 01:27:01,770
Benefit at all from be ing

1659
01:27:01,770 --> 01:27:02,270
ing [Lapse

1660
01:27:02,270 --> 01:27:04,270
in audio].

1661
01:27:04,772 --> 01:27:06,241
I know we don't have enough time

1662
01:27:06,241 --> 01:27:06,975
to discuss this today probably.

1663
01:27:06,975 --> 01:27:08,420
But this is huge.

1664
01:27:08,420 --> 01:27:10,211
I think we need to consider all

1665
01:27:10,211 --> 01:27:12,211
of the options.

1666
01:27:13,981 --> 01:27:15,483
I'll get off my soapbox on that,

1667
01:27:15,483 --> 01:27:15,684
ben, because I think I've done

1668
01:27:15,684 --> 01:27:16,918
that.

1669
01:27:16,918 --> 01:27:19,918
The other questions I had.

1670
01:27:20,254 --> 01:27:21,550
One was specifically for an --

1671
01:27:21,550 --> 01:27:23,455
COUNCILMAN Courage brought this

1672
01:27:23,792 --> 01:27:25,693
up, so thank you for that.

1673
01:27:25,693 --> 01:27:25,994
Partially restore the civilian

1674
01:27:25,994 --> 01:27:27,994
freeze.

1675
01:27:29,164 --> 01:27:30,531
Can you remind me who is

1676
01:27:30,531 --> 01:27:32,931
included in the partially

1677
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:45,914
restored employees?

1678
01:27:45,914 --> 01:27:47,914
>> thank you.

1679
01:27:48,183 --> 01:27:50,986
The hiring freeze for fiscal

1680
01:27:50,986 --> 01:27:52,788
year 2021 included all civilian

1681
01:27:52,788 --> 01:27:54,822
employees in the general fund.

1682
01:27:54,822 --> 01:27:58,422
So that includes our police and

1683
01:27:59,127 --> 01:28:02,300
fire, also our 911 call centers,

1684
01:28:02,300 --> 01:28:04,300
municipal court employees, 311

1685
01:28:04,980 --> 01:28:06,498
call takers as well.

1686
01:28:06,834 --> 01:28:09,871
So everybody else in the office,

1687
01:28:09,871 --> 01:28:13,471
finance, parks, are part of that

1688
01:28:15,443 --> 01:28:17,443
hiring freeze.

1689
01:28:18,180 --> 01:28:19,914
We always have attrition, so we

1690
01:28:19,914 --> 01:28:22,150
feel comfortable it partially

1691
01:28:22,150 --> 01:28:24,319
allows us to provide the

1692
01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:26,421
services to our community and

1693
01:28:26,421 --> 01:28:26,888
also be financially responsible

1694
01:28:26,888 --> 01:28:27,523
for 2022.

1695
01:28:27,523 --> 01:28:30,523
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you for

1696
01:28:35,964 --> 01:28:37,964
that.

1697
01:28:42,938 --> 01:28:44,938
[Lapse in audio].

1698
01:28:45,106 --> 01:28:47,106
>> potentially, yes.

1699
01:28:47,342 --> 01:28:50,212
>> Rocha Garcia: okay, got it.

1700
01:28:50,212 --> 01:28:51,180
On the d-4 stats, oh, actually,

1701
01:28:51,180 --> 01:28:54,180
ben, you presented that, so

1702
01:28:54,716 --> 01:28:56,716
we're good.

1703
01:28:57,453 --> 01:28:58,319
On the council district

1704
01:28:58,319 --> 01:29:00,719
feedback, district 4 has the

1705
01:29:01,624 --> 01:29:03,910
least participation, 3.6%.

1706
01:29:03,910 --> 01:29:06,280
[Lapse in audio] On figuring out

1707
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:06,895
how to increase that, I would be

1708
01:29:06,895 --> 01:29:07,763
happy to block off whatever you

1709
01:29:07,763 --> 01:29:09,598
want me to do.

1710
01:29:09,598 --> 01:29:11,166
And also to the mayor's point,

1711
01:29:11,166 --> 01:29:12,901
and I asked two years ago when I

1712
01:29:12,901 --> 01:29:15,355
got here, and I was new to this,

1713
01:29:15,355 --> 01:29:18,355
and I teach marketing research.

1714
01:29:19,775 --> 01:29:22,110
So I asked about just making

1715
01:29:22,110 --> 01:29:24,680
sure [Lapse in audio] And what

1716
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,614
kind of statistical analysis

1717
01:29:25,614 --> 01:29:27,614
goes into this.

1718
01:29:28,884 --> 01:29:31,860
Like, how do we make sure we are

1719
01:29:31,860 --> 01:29:32,154
representative -- that we have a

1720
01:29:32,154 --> 01:29:33,255
representative sample of the

1721
01:29:33,255 --> 01:29:35,255
entire population.

1722
01:29:36,625 --> 01:29:38,694
While I appreciate the effort,

1723
01:29:38,694 --> 01:29:40,361
[Lapse in audio] By block

1724
01:29:40,361 --> 01:29:41,563
walking, we don't have access to

1725
01:29:41,563 --> 01:29:43,563
all these communities.

1726
01:29:44,332 --> 01:29:45,167
Maybe people work during the

1727
01:29:45,167 --> 01:29:47,167
day.

1728
01:29:47,302 --> 01:29:47,970
So I would be very cautious as

1729
01:29:47,970 --> 01:29:49,970
to that.

1730
01:29:50,572 --> 01:29:54,172
I would like to continue that

1731
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,147
conversation and maybe like sa

1732
01:29:58,147 --> 01:30:00,547
2020 engaged so many folks.

1733
01:30:00,616 --> 01:30:02,283
Maybe we can figure out how to

1734
01:30:02,283 --> 01:30:03,520
learn what they did in their

1735
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:04,853
process.

1736
01:30:04,853 --> 01:30:07,853
And increasing that number of

1737
01:30:08,590 --> 01:30:10,990
the ethnic participation [Lapse

1738
01:30:12,761 --> 01:30:13,929
in audio] And if we do

1739
01:30:13,929 --> 01:30:15,929
door-to-door strategy, people

1740
01:30:16,699 --> 01:30:18,266
are going to be working again.

1741
01:30:18,266 --> 01:30:18,867
So those are my comments.

1742
01:30:18,867 --> 01:30:20,867
Thank you.

1743
01:30:20,969 --> 01:30:23,369
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

1744
01:30:26,341 --> 01:30:28,341
councilmember rocha garcia.

1745
01:30:31,614 --> 01:30:32,347
Councilmember cabello havrda.

1746
01:30:32,347 --> 01:30:34,747
>> Cabello Havrda: thank you.

1747
01:30:35,651 --> 01:30:37,419
With the retrievable fee, we

1748
01:30:37,419 --> 01:30:40,289
talked about the benefit really

1749
01:30:40,289 --> 01:30:42,357
to the community outweighed the

1750
01:30:42,357 --> 01:30:44,726
cost, the $200,000 cost to the

1751
01:30:44,726 --> 01:30:47,163
city, reminding us that these

1752
01:30:47,163 --> 01:30:47,430
are people who are arrested, not

1753
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:49,430
convicted.

1754
01:30:49,498 --> 01:30:53,680
And I want to quickly -- I did

1755
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:53,669
the ccr in JANUARY of this year

1756
01:30:53,669 --> 01:30:56,669
[Lapse in audio] Rocha garcia

1757
01:30:57,706 --> 01:30:58,340
for signing that on.

1758
01:30:58,340 --> 01:31:01,940
And I'm glad we're talking about

1759
01:31:02,178 --> 01:31:04,178
it now.

1760
01:31:13,656 --> 01:31:17,256
The property [Lapse in audio] A

1761
01:31:25,789 --> 01:31:25,880
reminder that they have been

1762
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:25,970
arrested, they have not been

1763
01:31:25,970 --> 01:31:26,600
convicted.

1764
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:26,149
Coming up to the $25 could be a

1765
01:31:26,149 --> 01:31:26,239
barrier for them to get to work.

1766
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:26,402
Of course, that's going to have

1767
01:31:26,402 --> 01:31:27,770
an economic impact on our city

1768
01:31:27,770 --> 01:31:30,973
if they can't get to work.

1769
01:31:30,973 --> 01:31:33,973
So I think that the $200,000

1770
01:31:35,177 --> 01:31:36,245
cost to the city is heavily

1771
01:31:36,245 --> 01:31:36,679
outweighed by [Lapse in audio]

1772
01:31:36,679 --> 01:31:38,679
Our communities.

1773
01:31:38,981 --> 01:31:40,916
To the homestead exemption,

1774
01:31:40,916 --> 01:31:43,850
because I really -- I supported

1775
01:31:43,850 --> 01:31:44,319
it a couple of years ago when we

1776
01:31:44,319 --> 01:31:45,320
initiated it, and I still

1777
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:46,529
believe it was the right thing

1778
01:31:46,529 --> 01:31:48,529
to do.

1779
01:31:48,891 --> 01:31:49,358
I think it was necessary to

1780
01:31:49,358 --> 01:31:51,358
[Lapse in audio].

1781
01:31:51,594 --> 01:31:51,860
Seeing ben's numbers are

1782
01:31:51,860 --> 01:31:53,495
sobering.

1783
01:31:53,495 --> 01:31:55,897
The first three clumsy think

1784
01:31:55,897 --> 01:31:57,567
were 100, 200, 300.

1785
01:31:57,567 --> 01:31:59,501
I would say that's where my

1786
01:31:59,501 --> 01:32:01,804
district falls in that, and it's

1787
01:32:01,804 --> 01:32:03,572
not much of an increase.

1788
01:32:03,572 --> 01:32:06,572
The mayor opened our meeting

1789
01:32:07,609 --> 01:32:10,609
today noting that [Lapse in

1790
01:32:11,614 --> 01:32:12,915
audio] And seeing those, the

1791
01:32:12,915 --> 01:32:15,284
surveys, results in my district,

1792
01:32:15,284 --> 01:32:17,190
they want to see an increase in

1793
01:32:17,190 --> 01:32:18,154
senior services and public

1794
01:32:18,154 --> 01:32:20,154
health.

1795
01:32:21,590 --> 01:32:25,190
So I'm having a problem seeing

1796
01:32:25,828 --> 01:32:27,960
an increase in the exemption,

1797
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,300
what my district has said they

1798
01:32:30,300 --> 01:32:32,300
want to see.

1799
01:32:32,635 --> 01:32:34,704
I do have a question about the

1800
01:32:34,704 --> 01:32:36,704
wage increase.

1801
01:32:38,740 --> 01:32:41,777
i think it was slide 7 or 8.

1802
01:32:41,777 --> 01:32:42,450
Regarding our compensation

1803
01:32:42,450 --> 01:32:44,450
increase.

1804
01:32:48,184 --> 01:32:51,870
Is that a wage increase?

1805
01:32:51,870 --> 01:32:53,756
>> yes, that's the value of what

1806
01:32:53,756 --> 01:32:54,657
we've set aside within the

1807
01:32:54,657 --> 01:32:55,824
budget, yes.

1808
01:32:55,824 --> 01:32:56,559
>> Cabello Havrda: it's not a

1809
01:32:56,559 --> 01:32:58,559
one-time increase?

1810
01:32:58,594 --> 01:33:00,594
>> no, ma'am.

1811
01:33:01,230 --> 01:33:02,999
We built that through our

1812
01:33:02,999 --> 01:33:03,600
five-year financial forecast.

1813
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,000
>> Cabello Havrda: thank you.

1814
01:33:06,635 --> 01:33:10,235
And lastly, the survey, I would

1815
01:33:12,976 --> 01:33:15,712
ask if we can ask people if they

1816
01:33:15,712 --> 01:33:16,212
have an impairment that renders

1817
01:33:16,212 --> 01:33:18,612
them [Lapse in audio].

1818
01:33:19,149 --> 01:33:20,750
I like the demographic you have.

1819
01:33:20,750 --> 01:33:22,840
If we could add a question,

1820
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:23,586
whether they want to report that

1821
01:33:23,586 --> 01:33:25,622
they are a disabled person.

1822
01:33:25,622 --> 01:33:25,955
>> that's a great suggestion,

1823
01:33:25,955 --> 01:33:27,955
COUNCILWOMAN.

1824
01:33:28,824 --> 01:33:30,493
We'll do that, and we'll take

1825
01:33:30,493 --> 01:33:32,228
note, COUNCILMAN Courage, of

1826
01:33:32,228 --> 01:33:34,228
what you need.

1827
01:33:34,497 --> 01:33:36,700
The survey does have an

1828
01:33:36,700 --> 01:33:38,567
open-ended option for those

1829
01:33:38,567 --> 01:33:39,402
questions, but we got almost

1830
01:33:39,402 --> 01:33:40,503
4,000 comments that we'll

1831
01:33:40,503 --> 01:33:41,404
provide to you as we move

1832
01:33:41,404 --> 01:33:42,405
forward in the process.

1833
01:33:42,405 --> 01:33:44,540
But thank you for that.

1834
01:33:44,540 --> 01:33:46,709
>> Cabello Havrda: thank you.

1835
01:33:46,709 --> 01:33:48,478
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

1836
01:33:48,478 --> 01:33:50,478
councilmember cabello havrda.

1837
01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:53,480
Councilmember rodriguez.

1838
01:33:54,217 --> 01:33:56,652
>> I want to start by saying

1839
01:33:56,652 --> 01:34:00,252
that based on these results, I'm

1840
01:34:02,191 --> 01:34:04,394
a little disheartened by the

1841
01:34:04,394 --> 01:34:06,629
results given, district 2 only

1842
01:34:06,629 --> 01:34:08,498
had 6% of the results.

1843
01:34:08,498 --> 01:34:11,701
So now I feel the onus is going

1844
01:34:11,701 --> 01:34:14,101
to be on me.

1845
01:34:14,136 --> 01:34:15,838
You know, to really examine what

1846
01:34:15,838 --> 01:34:17,841
region of the city is, how much

1847
01:34:17,841 --> 01:34:19,575
my district is being reached.

1848
01:34:19,575 --> 01:34:21,344
I would also like to know, is it

1849
01:34:21,344 --> 01:34:24,344
possible to get information on

1850
01:34:25,181 --> 01:34:27,581
which demographics were reached

1851
01:34:27,783 --> 01:34:30,119
through each side of the

1852
01:34:30,119 --> 01:34:31,854
outreach method?

1853
01:34:31,854 --> 01:34:35,454
So, like an age breakdown by

1854
01:34:37,260 --> 01:34:39,229
mailers, by the social media?

1855
01:34:39,229 --> 01:34:40,330
>> I'm not sure if we can

1856
01:34:40,330 --> 01:34:42,365
calculate that, because those

1857
01:34:42,365 --> 01:34:45,365
were sort of outward pushes.

1858
01:34:46,969 --> 01:34:47,437
I'm not sure we know the demo

1859
01:34:47,437 --> 01:34:47,937
demographics

1860
01:34:47,937 --> 01:34:49,872
demo

1861
01:34:49,872 --> 01:34:50,239
demographics of the receiver and

1862
01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:51,474
whatnot.

1863
01:34:51,474 --> 01:34:51,641
We definitely want to work with

1864
01:34:51,641 --> 01:34:53,209
you.

1865
01:34:53,209 --> 01:34:55,611
I think part of the reason for

1866
01:34:55,611 --> 01:34:58,247
the lower numbers, frankly, was

1867
01:34:58,247 --> 01:35:00,247
transitioning council offices.

1868
01:35:00,383 --> 01:35:01,918
Now that we're here, we want to

1869
01:35:01,918 --> 01:35:04,154
get committed to do that.

1870
01:35:04,154 --> 01:35:06,623
That's why erik directed us to

1871
01:35:06,623 --> 01:35:08,324
keep the survey open longer and

1872
01:35:08,324 --> 01:35:08,658
we'll follow it in short order.

1873
01:35:08,658 --> 01:35:10,590
>> absolutely.

1874
01:35:10,590 --> 01:35:13,590
I'm looking at the different

1875
01:35:13,497 --> 01:35:15,497
methods of outreach.

1876
01:35:16,533 --> 01:35:17,567
I might have missed it, but were

1877
01:35:17,567 --> 01:35:18,768
text messages an outreach?

1878
01:35:18,768 --> 01:35:20,704
>> no.

1879
01:35:20,704 --> 01:35:22,380
It was not.

1880
01:35:22,380 --> 01:35:25,638
And we were talking earlier that

1881
01:35:25,775 --> 01:35:28,411
one of the tactics will bring up

1882
01:35:28,411 --> 01:35:30,347
those other districts, is target

1883
01:35:30,347 --> 01:35:31,548
a district with lower responses

1884
01:35:31,548 --> 01:35:32,182
with more texts specifically so

1885
01:35:32,182 --> 01:35:33,650
we could get the numbers higher

1886
01:35:33,650 --> 01:35:35,650
there.

1887
01:35:36,486 --> 01:35:37,487
We don't want to do that

1888
01:35:37,487 --> 01:35:39,656
citywide and create the same

1889
01:35:39,656 --> 01:35:41,458
difference in the demographics,

1890
01:35:41,458 --> 01:35:42,659
we really need to refocus our

1891
01:35:42,659 --> 01:35:44,194
efforts on the area to get more

1892
01:35:44,194 --> 01:35:46,329
of a representative response.

1893
01:35:46,329 --> 01:35:48,729
>> I really appreciate that.

1894
01:35:48,998 --> 01:35:50,867
And then I want to echo

1895
01:35:50,867 --> 01:35:51,902
COUNCILWOMAN Sandoval's

1896
01:35:51,902 --> 01:35:53,704
sentiments about language.

1897
01:35:53,704 --> 01:35:57,304
I want to talk about language.

1898
01:35:59,609 --> 01:36:03,460
I don't mean english or spanish,

1899
01:36:03,460 --> 01:36:03,580
but as it relates to the [Lapse

1900
01:36:03,580 --> 01:36:05,482
in audio].

1901
01:36:05,482 --> 01:36:07,840
i think we can't get accurate

1902
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:09,860
results if people have these

1903
01:36:09,860 --> 01:36:12,220
limited -- this -- if there's

1904
01:36:12,220 --> 01:36:14,220
room for interpretation.

1905
01:36:14,824 --> 01:36:16,260
I will echo the sentments of

1906
01:36:16,260 --> 01:36:19,196
cabello havrda in regards to the

1907
01:36:19,196 --> 01:36:20,998
$25 feet for property retrieval.

1908
01:36:20,998 --> 01:36:23,998
I don't think that $200,000 that

1909
01:36:24,100 --> 01:36:26,937
we're getting in revenue is

1910
01:36:26,937 --> 01:36:27,270
worth the impact it has on those

1911
01:36:27,270 --> 01:36:29,270
individuals.

1912
01:36:29,506 --> 01:36:33,420
I'd also like to echo the

1913
01:36:33,420 --> 01:36:35,442
sentiments of conferred and

1914
01:36:35,879 --> 01:36:38,182
COUNCILMAN Garcia, I want to be

1915
01:36:38,182 --> 01:36:39,816
supportive of it, but looking at

1916
01:36:39,816 --> 01:36:42,286
the impacts it will have in our

1917
01:36:42,286 --> 01:36:43,787
social serviceses and our

1918
01:36:43,787 --> 01:36:46,457
ability to provide for the

1919
01:36:46,457 --> 01:36:47,230
working class people that it

1920
01:36:47,230 --> 01:36:49,230
provides for.

1921
01:36:49,626 --> 01:36:50,427
I don't think in good

1922
01:36:50,427 --> 01:36:52,262
conscience, knowing that

1923
01:36:52,262 --> 01:36:52,563
receiving this, I can be

1924
01:36:52,563 --> 01:36:54,563
supportive.

1925
01:36:55,599 --> 01:36:55,932
But I look forward to that

1926
01:36:55,932 --> 01:36:57,567
conversation.

1927
01:36:57,567 --> 01:36:58,602
Thank you.

1928
01:36:58,602 --> 01:37:00,602
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

1929
01:37:02,206 --> 01:37:02,740
>> thank you, COUNCILMAN

1930
01:37:02,740 --> 01:37:03,140
Rodriguez.

1931
01:37:03,140 --> 01:37:05,140
COUNCILMAN Perry.

1932
01:37:07,544 --> 01:37:09,944
>> Perry: thank you, ma'am.

1933
01:37:10,714 --> 01:37:13,500
This was a lightning rod last

1934
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:14,651
time, when we approved it.

1935
01:37:14,651 --> 01:37:16,620
Actually, it took three years to

1936
01:37:16,620 --> 01:37:18,856
work towards a homestead

1937
01:37:18,856 --> 01:37:19,389
exemption, to start one, at the

1938
01:37:19,389 --> 01:37:21,389
lowest level.

1939
01:37:21,625 --> 01:37:25,328
And here we are two years later

1940
01:37:25,328 --> 01:37:28,928
after we started the first time,

1941
01:37:29,633 --> 01:37:31,680
and, you know, it's a big

1942
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,680
discussion again.

1943
01:37:34,370 --> 01:37:35,605
Let me start with saying, why

1944
01:37:35,605 --> 01:37:36,974
wasn't property tax relief on

1945
01:37:36,974 --> 01:37:38,974
the survey?

1946
01:37:40,945 --> 01:37:42,580
As one of the options to pick?

1947
01:37:42,580 --> 01:37:43,147
I mean, we knew we were going to

1948
01:37:43,147 --> 01:37:45,282
be discussing it again this

1949
01:37:45,282 --> 01:37:47,282
year.

1950
01:37:48,850 --> 01:37:50,485
>> we asked about programs.

1951
01:37:50,688 --> 01:37:53,124
it is an open-ended -- we do

1952
01:37:53,124 --> 01:37:54,925
have open-ended comments on it.

1953
01:37:54,925 --> 01:37:56,526
At one point in the process, I

1954
01:37:56,526 --> 01:37:59,129
checked on this this week, when

1955
01:37:59,129 --> 01:38:00,897
we had 2,500 open-ended

1956
01:38:00,897 --> 01:38:02,466
responses, we had about 200

1957
01:38:02,466 --> 01:38:04,435
comments related to property

1958
01:38:04,435 --> 01:38:06,636
taxes one way or another.

1959
01:38:06,636 --> 01:38:07,638
They do have that option in the

1960
01:38:07,638 --> 01:38:09,638
open-ended part.

1961
01:38:12,609 --> 01:38:14,544
It isn't a program per se.

1962
01:38:14,544 --> 01:38:16,246
>> Perry: I would argue that

1963
01:38:16,246 --> 01:38:17,915
part, because it really is a

1964
01:38:17,915 --> 01:38:19,916
program, because it's a cost to

1965
01:38:19,916 --> 01:38:21,585
the city, of the general fund.

1966
01:38:21,585 --> 01:38:24,550
So I would say that it is a

1967
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:27,157
program that we need to identify

1968
01:38:27,157 --> 01:38:29,393
separately on the survey.

1969
01:38:29,393 --> 01:38:32,463
But again, there's always a hess

1970
01:38:32,463 --> 01:38:34,231
tapsy, looking at that number of

1971
01:38:34,231 --> 01:38:36,231
$7 million.

1972
01:38:37,235 --> 01:38:39,403
But let me remind everybody that

1973
01:38:39,403 --> 01:38:43,300
we've got a number since I've

1974
01:38:43,474 --> 01:38:44,410
been on con sil

1975
01:38:44,410 --> 01:38:47,410
uncil, we have a pilot

1976
01:38:48,779 --> 01:38:50,779
program.

1977
01:38:51,215 --> 01:38:55,415
Ben, do you have the slide that

1978
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:58,870
shows 20% impacts?

1979
01:38:58,956 --> 01:39:00,757
There's always a hesitancy.

1980
01:39:00,757 --> 01:39:03,270
But these other pilot programs,

1981
01:39:03,270 --> 01:39:04,128
it seems like they flow through

1982
01:39:04,128 --> 01:39:06,528
without any additional comments.

1983
01:39:08,198 --> 01:39:10,000
I mean, we've approved

1984
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:12,102
increases -- I mean, we started

1985
01:39:12,102 --> 01:39:14,105
this homeless hotel, over $3

1986
01:39:14,105 --> 01:39:16,600
million a year, that I'm sure is

1987
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,606
going to turn into a permanent

1988
01:39:19,777 --> 01:39:20,378
fixture here in san antonio.

1989
01:39:20,378 --> 01:39:23,378
And that's 30 million bucks a

1990
01:39:25,316 --> 01:39:27,316
year.

1991
01:39:28,585 --> 01:39:30,988
The alamo promise, you can see

1992
01:39:30,988 --> 01:39:33,223
that's doubled in one year.

1993
01:39:33,223 --> 01:39:35,860
Project quest has gone up.

1994
01:39:35,860 --> 01:39:38,950
All of these other programs,

1995
01:39:38,950 --> 01:39:40,665
under one roof program, that has

1996
01:39:40,665 --> 01:39:42,665
grown astronomically.

1997
01:39:43,534 --> 01:39:45,570
But when it comes to homestead

1998
01:39:45,570 --> 01:39:48,570
exemptions, where we can apply

1999
01:39:48,639 --> 01:39:51,275
something that affects a broad

2000
01:39:51,275 --> 01:39:52,543
range of homeowners that are

2001
01:39:52,543 --> 01:39:54,943
struggling with that property

2002
01:39:55,914 --> 01:39:56,313
tax increase every year, we're

2003
01:39:56,313 --> 01:39:57,115
hesitant.

2004
01:39:57,115 --> 01:39:59,515
We're hesitant about that.

2005
01:40:00,151 --> 01:40:02,551
I'm not sure why.

2006
01:40:02,553 --> 01:40:05,553
That all these other programs

2007
01:40:05,656 --> 01:40:07,125
are great, but offering

2008
01:40:07,125 --> 01:40:09,260
something that covers a much

2009
01:40:09,260 --> 01:40:12,297
more broad base to san antonians

2010
01:40:12,297 --> 01:40:12,563
that are homeowners, we have

2011
01:40:12,563 --> 01:40:14,563
hesitancy.

2012
01:40:17,969 --> 01:40:19,571
I'm disappointed about that.

2013
01:40:19,571 --> 01:40:19,771
We'll discuss this a little bit

2014
01:40:19,771 --> 01:40:21,771
more.

2015
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:22,273
But did you have that slide,

2016
01:40:22,273 --> 01:40:23,774
ben?

2017
01:40:23,774 --> 01:40:26,611
>> COUNCILMAN, I do not have the

2018
01:40:26,611 --> 01:40:27,245
slide that shows what the 20%

2019
01:40:27,245 --> 01:40:28,579
exemption would look like.

2020
01:40:28,579 --> 01:40:30,948
>> Perry: yeah, I think we need

2021
01:40:30,948 --> 01:40:32,350
to get those figures to see

2022
01:40:32,350 --> 01:40:34,190
that, compared to the 5%.

2023
01:40:34,190 --> 01:40:35,253
Because people are saying, it's

2024
01:40:35,253 --> 01:40:37,555
not impacting my district.

2025
01:40:37,555 --> 01:40:39,190
Well, heck, let's go to 20% like

2026
01:40:39,190 --> 01:40:39,991
other cities and show what that

2027
01:40:39,991 --> 01:40:41,991
impact is.

2028
01:40:43,595 --> 01:40:43,895
Both in cost and the impact to

2029
01:40:43,895 --> 01:40:45,362
homeowners.

2030
01:40:45,362 --> 01:40:46,597
That's what I'd like to get up

2031
01:40:46,597 --> 01:40:46,865
to, to match other cities here

2032
01:40:46,865 --> 01:40:48,865
in texas.

2033
01:40:50,134 --> 01:40:52,134
20%.

2034
01:40:55,507 --> 01:40:57,208
This is only the next -- to me,

2035
01:40:57,208 --> 01:40:58,810
logical step going to 5%,

2036
01:40:58,810 --> 01:40:59,770
instead of going all the way to

2037
01:40:59,770 --> 01:41:01,770
20%.

2038
01:41:01,646 --> 01:41:03,615
Is it going to take three years

2039
01:41:03,615 --> 01:41:06,284
of hammering away that we need

2040
01:41:06,284 --> 01:41:06,584
to offer more in homestead

2041
01:41:06,584 --> 01:41:08,584
exemptions?

2042
01:41:09,540 --> 01:41:10,888
I'm not just talking about the

2043
01:41:10,888 --> 01:41:14,192
city, I think we need to as a

2044
01:41:14,192 --> 01:41:15,760
city to also work with bexar

2045
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:17,328
county, the hospital district,

2046
01:41:17,328 --> 01:41:18,363
the school districts, the san

2047
01:41:18,363 --> 01:41:20,763
antonio river authority, all

2048
01:41:21,399 --> 01:41:23,401
those are taxing entities that

2049
01:41:23,401 --> 01:41:23,701
don't offer homestead

2050
01:41:23,701 --> 01:41:25,503
exemptions.

2051
01:41:25,503 --> 01:41:29,703
some of them do here and there,

2052
01:41:29,908 --> 01:41:32,430
but the vast majority of [Lapse

2053
01:41:32,430 --> 01:41:33,845
in audio] As leaders of this

2054
01:41:33,845 --> 01:41:36,681
city work with the other

2055
01:41:36,681 --> 01:41:40,185
entities to get them to say,

2056
01:41:40,185 --> 01:41:40,718
hey, yeah, let's give a break to

2057
01:41:40,718 --> 01:41:42,553
homeowners.

2058
01:41:42,553 --> 01:41:45,256
The school districts are the

2059
01:41:45,256 --> 01:41:45,590
majority of the tax bills out

2060
01:41:45,590 --> 01:41:46,658
there.

2061
01:41:46,658 --> 01:41:49,580
I understand school funding,

2062
01:41:49,561 --> 01:41:53,161
what comes down from the state,

2063
01:41:53,264 --> 01:41:55,320
what's raising property taxes,

2064
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:56,670
but I think they need to

2065
01:41:56,670 --> 01:41:58,102
recognize that just as much as

2066
01:41:58,102 --> 01:41:59,400
we do to help the working class

2067
01:41:59,400 --> 01:41:59,604
homeowners here in san antonio.

2068
01:41:59,604 --> 01:42:02,273
So that's all I have today on

2069
01:42:02,273 --> 01:42:04,273
that right now.

2070
01:42:07,612 --> 01:42:08,947
Just wanted to say, we had a

2071
01:42:08,947 --> 01:42:11,316
scientific study that said

2072
01:42:11,316 --> 01:42:12,984
people want more police.

2073
01:42:12,984 --> 01:42:13,184
Want more police visibility out

2074
01:42:13,184 --> 01:42:15,184
there.

2075
01:42:15,387 --> 01:42:18,590
I think that's a given, that we

2076
01:42:18,590 --> 01:42:19,625
need to look at increasing our

2077
01:42:19,625 --> 01:42:21,625
police force.

2078
01:42:22,827 --> 01:42:24,162
And just one more, streets and

2079
01:42:24,162 --> 01:42:25,730
sidewalks, almost always number

2080
01:42:25,730 --> 01:42:28,367
one at the top of the list.

2081
01:42:28,367 --> 01:42:30,936
That's all, sir, thank you.

2082
01:42:30,936 --> 01:42:33,336
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2083
01:42:34,273 --> 01:42:35,707
councilmember perry.

2084
01:42:35,707 --> 01:42:37,342
Councilmember bravo.

2085
01:42:37,342 --> 01:42:39,177
>> I'm happy to support you to

2086
01:42:39,177 --> 01:42:41,179
going out to the other entities

2087
01:42:41,179 --> 01:42:42,130
in the county and do their share

2088
01:42:42,130 --> 01:42:43,648
of tax relief.

2089
01:42:43,648 --> 01:42:45,984
When we look at tax relief here

2090
01:42:45,984 --> 01:42:48,820
in the city, I want to make

2091
01:42:48,820 --> 01:42:50,555
sure, you know, this is a city

2092
01:42:50,555 --> 01:42:52,691
of [Lapse in audio].

2093
01:42:52,691 --> 01:42:54,726
I want to make sure we are

2094
01:42:54,726 --> 01:42:56,228
prioritizing taking care of our

2095
01:42:56,228 --> 01:42:57,595
most vulnerable, making sure

2096
01:42:57,595 --> 01:42:58,163
we're not taxing people out of

2097
01:42:58,163 --> 01:43:00,163
their homes.

2098
01:43:01,433 --> 01:43:02,534
That's why I propose that we

2099
01:43:02,534 --> 01:43:03,768
proactively going into the zip

2100
01:43:03,768 --> 01:43:05,537
codes and make sure everybody

2101
01:43:05,537 --> 01:43:06,838
who qualifies for homestead

2102
01:43:06,838 --> 01:43:08,540
exemption has one.

2103
01:43:08,540 --> 01:43:10,776
Help everybody who's about to

2104
01:43:10,776 --> 01:43:12,511
turn 65 protest their appraisals

2105
01:43:12,511 --> 01:43:14,450
so they can bring their

2106
01:43:14,450 --> 01:43:15,748
appraisal down so that when

2107
01:43:15,748 --> 01:43:17,182
their property taxes are frozen,

2108
01:43:17,182 --> 01:43:17,449
it's going to be at a lower

2109
01:43:17,449 --> 01:43:18,917
rate.

2110
01:43:18,917 --> 01:43:21,387
And something that will be

2111
01:43:21,387 --> 01:43:22,154
meaningful as they age out on a

2112
01:43:22,154 --> 01:43:24,154
limited fixed income.

2113
01:43:27,593 --> 01:43:28,326
Ben, can I get you to pop up and

2114
01:43:28,326 --> 01:43:30,726
go to slide 21, please?

2115
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,966
One thing I'm looking at is, you

2116
01:43:34,966 --> 01:43:39,166
know, in our city of haves and

2117
01:43:39,170 --> 01:43:41,407
have-nots, we -- one determinant

2118
01:43:41,407 --> 01:43:42,841
of your life expectancy is the

2119
01:43:42,841 --> 01:43:44,342
zip code you live in, right?

2120
01:43:44,342 --> 01:43:48,542
So how does that play out when

2121
01:43:52,117 --> 01:43:54,686
we look at property taxes, and

2122
01:43:54,686 --> 01:43:56,540
getting the tax [Lapse in audio]

2123
01:43:56,540 --> 01:43:59,540
When you're a senior citizen.

2124
01:43:59,391 --> 01:44:01,160
We're looking at the $759

2125
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,496
example where it stays flat at

2126
01:44:04,496 --> 01:44:05,630
the age of 65, right?

2127
01:44:05,630 --> 01:44:08,663
What is the impact of that?

2128
01:44:11,604 --> 01:44:13,305
I mean, part of that is [Lapse

2129
01:44:13,305 --> 01:44:16,742
in audio] Impact on your life

2130
01:44:16,742 --> 01:44:20,912
is, how long do you live, right?

2131
01:44:20,912 --> 01:44:24,450
If you go to district 2, the

2132
01:44:24,450 --> 01:44:26,450
life expectancy, 67.6 years.

2133
01:44:28,453 --> 01:44:29,540
So you get that tax break for

2134
01:44:29,540 --> 01:44:32,540
2.6 years on average in your

2135
01:44:32,910 --> 01:44:34,910
life.

2136
01:44:36,962 --> 01:44:40,562
You go to district 7, zip code

2137
01:44:40,900 --> 01:44:41,333
78254, the life expectancy is

2138
01:44:41,333 --> 01:44:43,333
89.2 years.

2139
01:44:43,535 --> 01:44:47,735
So you get to benefit from that

2140
01:44:47,973 --> 01:44:49,175
flat line there, that $759, I

2141
01:44:49,175 --> 01:44:52,175
guess that you're paying every

2142
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:53,979
year on property taxes --

2143
01:44:53,979 --> 01:44:55,313
>> (Indiscernible).

2144
01:44:55,313 --> 01:44:56,816
>> 24.2 years.

2145
01:44:56,816 --> 01:44:59,251
And so we need to be looking at

2146
01:44:59,251 --> 01:45:01,651
the whole picture here.

2147
01:45:03,622 --> 01:45:04,823
And so I think it's really

2148
01:45:04,823 --> 01:45:07,823
important for people who don't

2149
01:45:09,262 --> 01:45:12,262
have a homestead exemption, who

2150
01:45:12,365 --> 01:45:13,599
because of lack of information,

2151
01:45:13,599 --> 01:45:14,633
possibly because they are

2152
01:45:14,633 --> 01:45:17,470
working two jobs and they don't

2153
01:45:17,470 --> 01:45:19,405
have time to go and, you know,

2154
01:45:19,405 --> 01:45:21,239
learn about this stuff, and file

2155
01:45:21,239 --> 01:45:23,575
for a homestead exemption, or

2156
01:45:23,575 --> 01:45:25,978
they don't have the time to go

2157
01:45:25,978 --> 01:45:27,412
and challenge their property tax

2158
01:45:27,412 --> 01:45:28,880
appraisal, you know, these

2159
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:30,783
people are -- they're

2160
01:45:30,783 --> 01:45:32,518
shouldering a disproportionate

2161
01:45:32,518 --> 01:45:34,420
amount of the community's tax

2162
01:45:34,420 --> 01:45:36,154
burden, and we need to go be

2163
01:45:36,154 --> 01:45:39,154
proactive about, you know, first

2164
01:45:40,593 --> 01:45:43,261
of all, to how we do that, maybe

2165
01:45:43,261 --> 01:45:47,461
we carve off some money in the

2166
01:45:52,972 --> 01:45:55,775
budget to provide some funds

2167
01:45:55,775 --> 01:45:56,275
[Lapse in audio] Nonprofits.

2168
01:45:56,275 --> 01:45:57,209
Maybe there are trusted

2169
01:45:57,209 --> 01:46:00,209
messengers there, and they have

2170
01:46:00,746 --> 01:46:03,146
a whole network there.

2171
01:46:03,249 --> 01:46:04,616
We had some conversations about

2172
01:46:04,616 --> 01:46:06,520
how we can be creative in

2173
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:06,419
fine-tuning who we're going

2174
01:46:06,419 --> 01:46:08,120
after.

2175
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:09,540
I'm hope to how we do it, but I

2176
01:46:09,540 --> 01:46:11,560
think that's something we need

2177
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,560
to do.

2178
01:46:15,127 --> 01:46:18,727
And so when you're talking about

2179
01:46:18,864 --> 01:46:21,330
prompt tax relief, I think we

2180
01:46:21,330 --> 01:46:23,200
need to start with those who are

2181
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,602
most vulnerable, who are most at

2182
01:46:27,373 --> 01:46:28,307
risk for being taxed out of

2183
01:46:28,307 --> 01:46:30,307
their homes.

2184
01:46:30,710 --> 01:46:32,378
I knocked on people's doors in

2185
01:46:32,378 --> 01:46:35,948
campaigning for this seat, and I

2186
01:46:35,948 --> 01:46:39,752
saw a "for sale" sign out in

2187
01:46:39,752 --> 01:46:42,152
front of their house.

2188
01:46:42,822 --> 01:46:43,122
I'm asking, who is this I'm

2189
01:46:43,122 --> 01:46:45,122
talking to?

2190
01:46:46,158 --> 01:46:49,194
This woman said her home was for

2191
01:46:49,194 --> 01:46:51,698
sale, she had -- this home had

2192
01:46:51,698 --> 01:46:51,998
been in her family for three

2193
01:46:51,998 --> 01:46:53,466
generations.

2194
01:46:53,466 --> 01:46:55,801
It was her grandmother's home,

2195
01:46:55,801 --> 01:46:57,904
and her mother inherited it.

2196
01:46:57,904 --> 01:47:00,840
And then she inherited it.

2197
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:01,840
And she's a senior citizen now,

2198
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,800
and she couldn't afford the

2199
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:05,800
property taxes.

2200
01:47:05,144 --> 01:47:06,512
They were $4,000 a month.

2201
01:47:06,512 --> 01:47:08,414
so she was selling the home that

2202
01:47:08,414 --> 01:47:10,160
she grew up in, that was in her

2203
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,180
family for three generations.

2204
01:47:12,180 --> 01:47:12,351
And that's what I want to

2205
01:47:12,351 --> 01:47:14,351
prioritize.

2206
01:47:14,587 --> 01:47:16,422
I want to make sure we're not

2207
01:47:16,422 --> 01:47:16,622
taxing those people out of their

2208
01:47:16,622 --> 01:47:17,356
homes.

2209
01:47:17,356 --> 01:47:19,291
Thank you.

2210
01:47:19,291 --> 01:47:20,260
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2211
01:47:20,260 --> 01:47:21,727
councilmember bravo.

2212
01:47:21,727 --> 01:47:23,727
Councilmember castillo.

2213
01:47:23,930 --> 01:47:27,530
>> I wanted to comment on the

2214
01:47:28,100 --> 01:47:28,767
speak up results.

2215
01:47:28,767 --> 01:47:30,537
[Lapse in audio] The

2216
01:47:30,537 --> 01:47:32,405
neighborhood and housing

2217
01:47:32,405 --> 01:47:33,806
services department employed a

2218
01:47:33,806 --> 01:47:35,741
great model I believe we should

2219
01:47:35,741 --> 01:47:37,911
try to mirror the sa speak up.

2220
01:47:37,911 --> 01:47:40,120
It was a series of questions

2221
01:47:40,120 --> 01:47:41,180
that went out to the most

2222
01:47:41,180 --> 01:47:44,149
vulnerable zip codes to folks.

2223
01:47:44,149 --> 01:47:47,420
There were a lot of folks who

2224
01:47:47,420 --> 01:47:51,200
didn't answer the doors, so we

2225
01:47:51,290 --> 01:47:52,725
had a low contact rate.

2226
01:47:52,725 --> 01:47:53,860
However, we learned in that

2227
01:47:53,860 --> 01:47:54,760
process that many folks didn't

2228
01:47:54,760 --> 01:47:56,996
have a phone number.

2229
01:47:56,996 --> 01:47:58,732
If they provided us with a phone

2230
01:47:58,732 --> 01:48:02,350
number, it was what they thought

2231
01:48:02,350 --> 01:48:02,936
to be their nephew's or

2232
01:48:02,936 --> 01:48:04,737
daughter's number.

2233
01:48:04,737 --> 01:48:05,271
And many folks didn't have

2234
01:48:05,271 --> 01:48:06,839
e-mail addresses.

2235
01:48:06,839 --> 01:48:09,750
We were going door to door

2236
01:48:09,750 --> 01:48:11,100
reaching the most vulnerable.

2237
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:12,440
And the people in the survey we

2238
01:48:12,440 --> 01:48:14,444
questioned, there was the

2239
01:48:15,414 --> 01:48:17,417
comment section we implemented,

2240
01:48:17,417 --> 01:48:19,386
and we asked, you know, do you

2241
01:48:19,386 --> 01:48:21,386
need assistance getting

2242
01:48:21,554 --> 01:48:23,590
connected to a food bank, or

2243
01:48:23,590 --> 01:48:25,725
help with getting connected to

2244
01:48:25,725 --> 01:48:27,725
additional resources.

2245
01:48:27,727 --> 01:48:29,362
There were a series of questions

2246
01:48:29,362 --> 01:48:31,231
that were filtered.

2247
01:48:31,231 --> 01:48:32,966
So for example, what we learned

2248
01:48:32,966 --> 01:48:35,966
when asked, hey, are you

2249
01:48:36,502 --> 01:48:37,771
experiencing issues with your

2250
01:48:37,771 --> 01:48:38,370
(Indiscernible) Because of

2251
01:48:38,370 --> 01:48:40,370
covid.

2252
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:42,141
Many folks said I was already

2253
01:48:42,141 --> 01:48:43,609
having issues paying my

2254
01:48:43,609 --> 01:48:45,979
utilities prior to covid.

2255
01:48:45,979 --> 01:48:48,614
You learn a lot through these

2256
01:48:48,614 --> 01:48:49,649
efforts, and I think it's

2257
01:48:49,649 --> 01:48:50,183
something we should model for

2258
01:48:50,183 --> 01:48:51,685
speak up.

2259
01:48:51,685 --> 01:48:52,519
I think that would be beneficial

2260
01:48:52,519 --> 01:48:54,919
to shaping the budget.

2261
01:48:56,789 --> 01:48:58,692
In addition to that, regarding

2262
01:48:58,692 --> 01:48:59,693
the pd property room fees, $25

2263
01:48:59,693 --> 01:49:01,161
is a lot.

2264
01:49:01,161 --> 01:49:05,361
That's a lot of money for people

2265
01:49:05,665 --> 01:49:07,665
in my district.

2266
01:49:08,634 --> 01:49:11,604
If we're targeting people to get

2267
01:49:11,604 --> 01:49:14,408
their I.D.S, even a replacement

2268
01:49:14,408 --> 01:49:16,809
I.D., you perpetuate the cycle

2269
01:49:16,809 --> 01:49:18,178
of folks who can't get to work

2270
01:49:18,178 --> 01:49:19,279
and have their basic needs met

2271
01:49:19,279 --> 01:49:20,747
because of the $25.

2272
01:49:20,747 --> 01:49:22,248
When we talk about property

2273
01:49:22,248 --> 01:49:25,848
taxes, I think it's important we

2274
01:49:26,586 --> 01:49:28,288
have an analysis of the rpfd

2275
01:49:28,288 --> 01:49:29,689
deals, and what we're losing

2276
01:49:29,689 --> 01:49:31,624
through those deals compared to

2277
01:49:31,624 --> 01:49:32,659
the homestead exemption would be

2278
01:49:32,659 --> 01:49:32,925
very beneficial.

2279
01:49:32,925 --> 01:49:33,560
Thank you.

2280
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,762
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2281
01:49:35,762 --> 01:49:37,762
councilmember castillo.

2282
01:49:38,498 --> 01:49:41,100
And as you might look at the

2283
01:49:41,100 --> 01:49:42,535
clock, we're about an hour over

2284
01:49:42,535 --> 01:49:44,170
time.

2285
01:49:44,170 --> 01:49:45,705
So we'll call a break for the

2286
01:49:45,705 --> 01:49:47,807
rest of the day, and that

2287
01:49:47,807 --> 01:49:49,376
includes lunch as we go along.

2288
01:49:49,376 --> 01:49:51,678
I don't want to cut it short,

2289
01:49:51,678 --> 01:49:53,513
but let's focus on moving on.

2290
01:49:53,513 --> 01:49:55,513
Quick follow-up from

2291
01:49:56,282 --> 01:49:56,616
councilmember pelaez, and then

2292
01:49:56,616 --> 01:49:57,184
rocha garcia.

2293
01:49:57,184 --> 01:49:59,584
>> Pelaez: thank you, mayor.

2294
01:50:00,487 --> 01:50:02,487
Quick follow-up.

2295
01:50:06,359 --> 01:50:07,327
I agree with you, councilmember

2296
01:50:07,327 --> 01:50:08,862
rocha garcia.

2297
01:50:08,862 --> 01:50:12,462
Whatever we do needs to be

2298
01:50:12,952 --> 01:50:14,952
meaningful.

2299
01:50:15,435 --> 01:50:16,202
I'm not sure that $28 a year,

2300
01:50:16,202 --> 01:50:19,202
[Lapse in audio] A month.

2301
01:50:19,239 --> 01:50:22,275
the last time we did this, you

2302
01:50:22,275 --> 01:50:25,275
know, we were lambasted for

2303
01:50:26,460 --> 01:50:27,130
months for bringing home a $4.30

2304
01:50:27,130 --> 01:50:27,614
savings per month.

2305
01:50:27,614 --> 01:50:31,510
It was an insult to a lot of

2306
01:50:31,510 --> 01:50:31,685
people.

2307
01:50:31,685 --> 01:50:34,200
Because it wasn't meaningful or

2308
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,200
impactful.

2309
01:50:36,990 --> 01:50:40,194
The same anger that we saw flare

2310
01:50:40,194 --> 01:50:40,461
up after cps offered an $8

2311
01:50:40,461 --> 01:50:42,461
rebate.

2312
01:50:42,762 --> 01:50:46,700
And so, you know, if we were to

2313
01:50:46,700 --> 01:50:50,300
do a survey in district 5, let's

2314
01:50:51,105 --> 01:50:53,505
say, or district 4, whatever,

2315
01:50:53,774 --> 01:50:54,641
would you rather not spend $4.30

2316
01:50:54,641 --> 01:50:57,811
a month, or would you rather

2317
01:50:57,811 --> 01:50:59,480
have sidewalks.

2318
01:50:59,480 --> 01:51:01,800
I bet you the answers would come

2319
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:01,348
back, no, I'd rather have a

2320
01:51:01,348 --> 01:51:03,348
sidewalk.

2321
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:07,350
Would you be willing to, you

2322
01:51:08,888 --> 01:51:11,288
know, enjoy $4.30 savings in

2323
01:51:11,458 --> 01:51:11,658
exchange for lower 911 response

2324
01:51:11,658 --> 01:51:12,593
times.

2325
01:51:12,593 --> 01:51:14,427
I think we all know what the

2326
01:51:14,427 --> 01:51:16,897
answer to that would be.

2327
01:51:16,897 --> 01:51:19,699
And so an additional problem we

2328
01:51:19,699 --> 01:51:22,435
need to keep in mind, and that

2329
01:51:22,435 --> 01:51:25,505
is, you know, maybe razi can

2330
01:51:25,505 --> 01:51:28,409
tell us, I'm just assuming the

2331
01:51:28,409 --> 01:51:29,977
answer is that cement rebar and

2332
01:51:29,977 --> 01:51:31,645
labor costs more now, right?

2333
01:51:31,645 --> 01:51:35,845
And so the dollars that we get

2334
01:51:37,250 --> 01:51:38,518
from our tax base go -- aren't

2335
01:51:38,518 --> 01:51:40,788
going further, they're actually

2336
01:51:40,788 --> 01:51:44,257
going -- it's harder and harder

2337
01:51:44,257 --> 01:51:44,524
to build a square foot of

2338
01:51:44,524 --> 01:51:46,524
sidewalk.

2339
01:51:48,395 --> 01:51:49,763
So I will tell you that

2340
01:51:49,763 --> 01:51:50,831
councilmember bravo is right.

2341
01:51:50,831 --> 01:51:53,831
We have thousands and thousands

2342
01:51:54,670 --> 01:51:55,102
of people who don't file for

2343
01:51:55,102 --> 01:51:57,104
their homestead exemption and

2344
01:51:57,104 --> 01:51:59,907
have taxes they aren't paying.

2345
01:51:59,907 --> 01:52:01,541
And to teach them that that is

2346
01:52:01,541 --> 01:52:02,543
available to them, they should

2347
01:52:02,543 --> 01:52:04,543
avail themselves of.

2348
01:52:06,246 --> 01:52:08,915
So mayor, I'll point out, we had

2349
01:52:08,915 --> 01:52:11,318
more people show up [Lapse in

2350
01:52:11,318 --> 01:52:13,487
audio] When we offer homestead

2351
01:52:13,487 --> 01:52:15,188
exemption education, or how to

2352
01:52:15,188 --> 01:52:17,357
protest your taxes classes.

2353
01:52:17,357 --> 01:52:21,557
We have more people show up for

2354
01:52:21,928 --> 01:52:24,698
free microchipping for your dogs

2355
01:52:24,698 --> 01:52:25,465
than some of the social safety

2356
01:52:25,465 --> 01:52:27,334
net campaigns.

2357
01:52:27,334 --> 01:52:29,200
I'm going to continue to try

2358
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:32,720
harder to get people signed up

2359
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:35,672
for homestead before I offer a

2360
01:52:36,543 --> 01:52:38,411
cosmetic fix, like doubling a

2361
01:52:38,411 --> 01:52:39,546
meaningless home staes

2362
01:52:39,546 --> 01:52:41,546
exemption.

2363
01:52:43,642 --> 01:52:43,789
Thanks.

2364
01:52:43,789 --> 01:52:43,887
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2365
01:52:43,887 --> 01:52:43,985
COUNCILMAN Pelaez.

2366
01:52:43,985 --> 01:52:44,951
To add on to the example that

2367
01:52:44,951 --> 01:52:48,551
you gave, the vast majority of

2368
01:52:48,656 --> 01:52:52,260
folks based on the slides would

2369
01:52:52,260 --> 01:52:56,163
not even see a $4 relief at all.

2370
01:52:56,163 --> 01:52:58,366
Based on homestead values.

2371
01:52:58,366 --> 01:52:58,932
Councilmember rocha garcia.

2372
01:52:58,932 --> 01:53:01,332
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you,

2373
01:53:01,869 --> 01:53:03,604
mayor.

2374
01:53:03,604 --> 01:53:04,872
To clarify, when I was asking

2375
01:53:04,872 --> 01:53:07,272
about the employee compensation,

2376
01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:11,612
we have a 3% for the pool for

2377
01:53:11,612 --> 01:53:13,612
compensation that's budgeted.

2378
01:53:15,616 --> 01:53:17,351
And I asked specifically about

2379
01:53:17,351 --> 01:53:18,919
anything [Lapse in audio] So I

2380
01:53:18,919 --> 01:53:21,488
just wanted to make clear I was

2381
01:53:21,488 --> 01:53:23,888
not advocating for performance

2382
01:53:25,159 --> 01:53:26,427
bonuses of any sort, but just

2383
01:53:26,427 --> 01:53:27,962
adequate compensation that

2384
01:53:27,962 --> 01:53:28,763
they've been known to be

2385
01:53:28,763 --> 01:53:29,363
eligible for.

2386
01:53:29,363 --> 01:53:29,763
That was it.

2387
01:53:29,763 --> 01:53:31,198
Thank you.

2388
01:53:31,198 --> 01:53:33,198
>> thanks for that

2389
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:35,770
clarification, because the city

2390
01:53:35,770 --> 01:53:36,300
doesn't do bonuses.

2391
01:53:36,300 --> 01:53:38,300
Right?

2392
01:53:38,272 --> 01:53:40,672
We do performance pay.

2393
01:53:40,974 --> 01:53:42,410
We do not do bonuses.

2394
01:53:42,410 --> 01:53:44,679
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2395
01:53:44,679 --> 01:53:45,746
councilmember rocha garcia.

2396
01:53:45,746 --> 01:53:47,746
Councilmember sandoval.

2397
01:53:47,915 --> 01:53:50,170
>> Sandoval: thank you, mayor.

2398
01:53:50,170 --> 01:53:51,385
I just wanted to say that I put

2399
01:53:51,385 --> 01:53:53,654
my position for staff when

2400
01:53:53,654 --> 01:53:55,256
taking consensus, I am in

2401
01:53:55,256 --> 01:53:55,990
support of removing the property

2402
01:53:55,990 --> 01:53:57,990
room fee.

2403
01:53:58,325 --> 01:53:58,859
And I want to thank COUNCILMAN

2404
01:53:58,859 --> 01:54:01,259
Cabello havrda for moving

2405
01:54:01,429 --> 01:54:03,429
forward on that.

2406
01:54:07,301 --> 01:54:07,901
And in terms of the homestead

2407
01:54:07,901 --> 01:54:10,400
exemption, I'm going to thank

2408
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:11,605
ben for -- the secret slides

2409
01:54:11,605 --> 01:54:15,205
that you had [Lapse in audio]

2410
01:54:15,910 --> 01:54:16,143
But I think they were very, very

2411
01:54:16,143 --> 01:54:18,143
helpful

2412
01:54:18,178 --> 01:54:21,178
helpful, and having seen those,

2413
01:54:21,782 --> 01:54:24,510
I would not be supportive of

2414
01:54:24,510 --> 01:54:26,220
moving in that direction.

2415
01:54:26,220 --> 01:54:29,820
Just so that everybody knows not

2416
01:54:31,426 --> 01:54:31,792
everyone in district 7 has

2417
01:54:31,792 --> 01:54:33,461
(Indiscernible).

2418
01:54:33,461 --> 01:54:37,661
I was going to say this earlier,

2419
01:54:39,660 --> 01:54:41,100
when jeff showed us the

2420
01:54:41,100 --> 01:54:43,401
by-district averages, each of

2421
01:54:43,504 --> 01:54:44,705
our districts have 150,000

2422
01:54:44,705 --> 01:54:47,705
people, and my district spans

2423
01:54:47,942 --> 01:54:48,109
outside of 1604, and inside loop

2424
01:54:48,109 --> 01:54:49,811
10.

2425
01:54:49,811 --> 01:54:50,978
We lose a lot of nuance when we

2426
01:54:50,978 --> 01:54:52,646
do that.

2427
01:54:52,646 --> 01:54:55,617
So just another thing to keep in

2428
01:54:55,617 --> 01:54:56,417
mind when we look at the survey

2429
01:54:56,417 --> 01:54:58,219
results.

2430
01:54:58,219 --> 01:55:01,819
Lastly, I know some people in

2431
01:55:02,991 --> 01:55:04,692
the survey ranked things like

2432
01:55:04,692 --> 01:55:06,227
parks and libraries lower in

2433
01:55:06,227 --> 01:55:06,427
terms of not wanting to cut

2434
01:55:06,427 --> 01:55:08,427
them.

2435
01:55:09,630 --> 01:55:13,334
I would not be supportive of any

2436
01:55:13,334 --> 01:55:16,104
cuts to things like our road

2437
01:55:16,104 --> 01:55:18,104
department, our parks

2438
01:55:18,373 --> 01:55:19,640
department, even if it wasn't

2439
01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:21,420
explicitly in there.

2440
01:55:21,420 --> 01:55:23,244
People were forced to rank.

2441
01:55:23,244 --> 01:55:23,510
I wouldn't be supportive of

2442
01:55:23,510 --> 01:55:25,510
those.

2443
01:55:25,613 --> 01:55:28,649
I'm looking at homer, I feel

2444
01:55:28,649 --> 01:55:28,949
like they're looking right at

2445
01:55:28,949 --> 01:55:29,250
me, or acs.

2446
01:55:29,250 --> 01:55:29,917
Thank you.

2447
01:55:29,917 --> 01:55:32,120
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2448
01:55:32,120 --> 01:55:32,653
councilmember sandoval.

2449
01:55:32,653 --> 01:55:34,122
Councilmember courage.

2450
01:55:34,122 --> 01:55:35,523
>> Courage: thank you, mayor.

2451
01:55:35,523 --> 01:55:37,570
i think it's important to

2452
01:55:37,570 --> 01:55:40,570
realize, I don't think anybody

2453
01:55:40,628 --> 01:55:43,431
here wants to cut any kind of a

2454
01:55:43,431 --> 01:55:47,310
program, or not do a program.

2455
01:55:47,401 --> 01:55:49,437
Now, I could be wrong, there MAY

2456
01:55:49,437 --> 01:55:51,105
be something that we hear don't

2457
01:55:51,105 --> 01:55:52,240
have the value, that maybe

2458
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:54,420
[Lapse in audio] When we look at

2459
01:55:54,420 --> 01:55:54,842
it deeply, we say, it wasn't the

2460
01:55:54,842 --> 01:55:56,711
value we thought.

2461
01:55:56,711 --> 01:56:00,115
And I think that's kind of what

2462
01:56:00,115 --> 01:56:00,582
people are thinking about, this

2463
01:56:00,582 --> 01:56:01,515
homestead exemption.

2464
01:56:01,515 --> 01:56:04,752
It doesn't have the value that

2465
01:56:04,752 --> 01:56:07,152
maybe we initially thought.

2466
01:56:07,455 --> 01:56:08,723
One thing I want to say is I've

2467
01:56:08,723 --> 01:56:12,323
been on this council for four

2468
01:56:12,805 --> 01:56:12,949
years and I don't think I've

2469
01:56:12,949 --> 01:56:16,300
ever had a budget at the end of

2470
01:56:16,300 --> 01:56:17,980
the year come up short.

2471
01:56:17,980 --> 01:56:18,866
As a matter of fact, they've

2472
01:56:18,866 --> 01:56:21,866
usually come up with 7 million

2473
01:56:22,236 --> 01:56:22,603
left over, or 15 million left

2474
01:56:22,603 --> 01:56:24,603
over.

2475
01:56:24,705 --> 01:56:27,705
This year, 42 million in excess

2476
01:56:28,242 --> 01:56:30,642
of what we budgeted.

2477
01:56:31,379 --> 01:56:33,515
So to have a fear that by spend

2478
01:56:33,515 --> 01:56:34,783
spending 7 1/4 million this

2479
01:56:34,783 --> 01:56:38,383
year, we're not going to do

2480
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:39,320
something, I think is pretty

2481
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:41,320
inrealistic.

2482
01:56:42,157 --> 01:56:44,592
And the point of this homestead

2483
01:56:44,592 --> 01:56:47,229
exemption is not to give

2484
01:56:47,229 --> 01:56:48,997
$600,000 home $139 extra this

2485
01:56:48,997 --> 01:56:50,997
year.

2486
01:56:51,650 --> 01:56:53,234
But it's part of the $300,000

2487
01:56:53,234 --> 01:56:54,202
home that's going to get $50

2488
01:56:54,202 --> 01:56:56,202
extra this year.

2489
01:56:56,805 --> 01:56:59,608
But when we raise it another 5%

2490
01:56:59,608 --> 01:57:01,809
in a couple more years, then

2491
01:57:01,809 --> 01:57:03,440
that person [Lapse in audio]

2492
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:05,440
$150 extra.

2493
01:57:06,247 --> 01:57:07,516
Or another 5%, you know, a few

2494
01:57:07,516 --> 01:57:09,417
years after that, now maybe

2495
01:57:09,417 --> 01:57:11,520
they're getting $400 savings.

2496
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:13,721
And maybe if we do it again and

2497
01:57:13,721 --> 01:57:16,721
get to that 20% eventually, you

2498
01:57:16,958 --> 01:57:19,958
know, they might be saving 500

2499
01:57:21,496 --> 01:57:22,597
or 1,000, if you own a 4 or

2500
01:57:22,597 --> 01:57:23,832
500,000 home, that's real money

2501
01:57:23,832 --> 01:57:27,368
to those people at that time.

2502
01:57:27,368 --> 01:57:29,838
So this is a process.

2503
01:57:29,838 --> 01:57:31,439
It's going gradually as well as

2504
01:57:31,439 --> 01:57:33,839
we can afford it.

2505
01:57:34,643 --> 01:57:36,478
If we didn't have a $42 million

2506
01:57:36,478 --> 01:57:37,812
surplus, and I'm sorry, no one

2507
01:57:37,812 --> 01:57:39,247
likes to use that word, but

2508
01:57:39,247 --> 01:57:40,348
that's what I'll use, I wouldn't

2509
01:57:40,348 --> 01:57:41,983
bring it up this year.

2510
01:57:41,983 --> 01:57:44,252
I didn't bring it up last year,

2511
01:57:44,252 --> 01:57:44,719
because we were in fear of

2512
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:47,119
having a real deficit.

2513
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,240
But we didn't.

2514
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:53,428
So lets think not of just a

2515
01:57:53,428 --> 01:57:55,464
small amount today, and what we

2516
01:57:55,464 --> 01:57:57,165
might not have, but let's think

2517
01:57:57,165 --> 01:57:59,601
about all the property owners,

2518
01:57:59,601 --> 01:58:01,703
including the ones you're saying

2519
01:58:01,703 --> 01:58:02,537
that aren't even getting any

2520
01:58:02,537 --> 01:58:04,537
homestead exemption.

2521
01:58:04,705 --> 01:58:06,741
Do you think that at least $28

2522
01:58:06,741 --> 01:58:08,410
this year, if we get them that

2523
01:58:08,410 --> 01:58:09,778
exemption, do you think in four

2524
01:58:09,778 --> 01:58:11,613
or five years they might

2525
01:58:11,613 --> 01:58:12,914
appreciate 400 or 500 as we

2526
01:58:12,914 --> 01:58:16,250
increase that, as we can afford

2527
01:58:16,250 --> 01:58:18,120
to increase that over time?

2528
01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:18,320
That's what this process is

2529
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:19,287
about.

2530
01:58:19,287 --> 01:58:21,790
It's not about denying any kind

2531
01:58:21,790 --> 01:58:23,224
of services.

2532
01:58:23,224 --> 01:58:24,258
The income is growing and it

2533
01:58:24,258 --> 01:58:25,260
will continue to grow.

2534
01:58:25,260 --> 01:58:27,620
The property values are going to

2535
01:58:27,620 --> 01:58:28,163
continue to grow.

2536
01:58:28,163 --> 01:58:30,165
And people know their property

2537
01:58:30,165 --> 01:58:32,233
values are going up.

2538
01:58:32,233 --> 01:58:33,935
And they want tax relief.

2539
01:58:33,935 --> 01:58:34,903
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2540
01:58:34,903 --> 01:58:36,404
councilmember courage.

2541
01:58:36,404 --> 01:58:37,380
Very briefly, again,

2542
01:58:37,380 --> 01:58:39,438
councilmember bravo, and then

2543
01:58:40,642 --> 01:58:42,642
councilmember viagran.

2544
01:58:43,645 --> 01:58:47,383
>> I just want to make sure that

2545
01:58:47,383 --> 01:58:49,518
we don't lose sight of the

2546
01:58:49,518 --> 01:58:50,452
second set of slides that ben

2547
01:58:50,452 --> 01:58:52,452
gorzell gave us.

2548
01:58:52,721 --> 01:58:53,756
We can't just look at one side

2549
01:58:53,756 --> 01:58:57,492
and say look what the other side

2550
01:58:57,492 --> 01:58:58,426
is doing and we're not doing

2551
01:58:58,426 --> 01:59:00,426
that.

2552
01:59:00,995 --> 01:59:02,764
We're protecting senior

2553
01:59:02,764 --> 01:59:03,631
citizens.

2554
01:59:03,631 --> 01:59:04,265
They don't freeze taxes for

2555
01:59:04,265 --> 01:59:06,265
senior citizens.

2556
01:59:07,169 --> 01:59:07,635
So that changes the bottom line

2557
01:59:07,635 --> 01:59:08,236
at the end of the day.

2558
01:59:08,236 --> 01:59:10,772
We have to look at the whole

2559
01:59:10,772 --> 01:59:12,772
picture.

2560
01:59:17,145 --> 01:59:20,745
[Lapse in audio] I don't think

2561
01:59:21,950 --> 01:59:24,119
you can do both, right?

2562
01:59:24,119 --> 01:59:25,220
That's a tough conversation.

2563
01:59:25,220 --> 01:59:26,755
If you want to have that

2564
01:59:26,755 --> 01:59:27,555
conversation, let's look at the

2565
01:59:27,555 --> 01:59:28,423
whole picture.

2566
01:59:28,423 --> 01:59:29,570
Thank you.

2567
01:59:29,570 --> 01:59:29,992
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2568
01:59:29,992 --> 01:59:31,460
councilmember bravo.

2569
01:59:31,460 --> 01:59:33,460
Councilmember viagran.

2570
01:59:33,895 --> 01:59:34,963
>> Viagran: I want to chime in,

2571
01:59:34,963 --> 01:59:36,331
I appreciate COUNCILMAN Perry's

2572
01:59:36,331 --> 01:59:38,166
efforts to be a leader with the

2573
01:59:38,166 --> 01:59:40,166
other taxing entities.

2574
01:59:40,703 --> 01:59:44,303
I think that that's the primary

2575
01:59:44,539 --> 01:59:46,207
point here is that we need to

2576
01:59:46,207 --> 01:59:47,542
leave the other taxing entities

2577
01:59:47,542 --> 01:59:49,144
in the homestead process.

2578
01:59:49,144 --> 01:59:50,212
Because right now homestead is

2579
01:59:50,212 --> 01:59:53,212
the only thing we have.

2580
01:59:54,449 --> 01:59:55,840
We don't have a legacy homeowner

2581
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:55,617
exemption, that we would have to

2582
01:59:55,617 --> 01:59:56,919
work for the state.

2583
01:59:56,919 --> 01:59:57,719
So I don't think we can lose

2584
01:59:57,719 --> 01:59:59,719
sight of that.

2585
02:00:00,122 --> 02:00:02,591
I think we need to look at that

2586
02:00:02,591 --> 02:00:04,991
42 million, and the programs,

2587
02:00:05,194 --> 02:00:07,620
that maybe we expand the

2588
02:00:07,620 --> 02:00:09,431
services, because -- just

2589
02:00:09,431 --> 02:00:11,831
because somebody owns a $300,000

2590
02:00:12,768 --> 02:00:14,350
house doesn't mean that they

2591
02:00:14,350 --> 02:00:15,203
don't [Lapse in audio]

2592
02:00:15,203 --> 02:00:16,710
Refurbishing or winterizing or

2593
02:00:16,710 --> 02:00:17,906
things like that.

2594
02:00:17,906 --> 02:00:20,976
When we get to the discussions,

2595
02:00:20,976 --> 02:00:22,744
I hope we keep that in mind.

2596
02:00:22,744 --> 02:00:23,379
Thank you, mayor.

2597
02:00:23,379 --> 02:00:24,913
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

2598
02:00:24,913 --> 02:00:26,913
councilmember perry.

2599
02:00:28,283 --> 02:00:29,510
>> Perry: I totally agree with

2600
02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:30,852
councilmember courage.

2601
02:00:30,852 --> 02:00:33,852
i disagree with my colleague

2602
02:00:36,258 --> 02:00:37,259
next to me that people -- I've

2603
02:00:37,259 --> 02:00:39,161
got zero complaints about us

2604
02:00:39,161 --> 02:00:40,620
starting that homestead

2605
02:00:40,620 --> 02:00:42,620
exemption in district 10.

2606
02:00:42,264 --> 02:00:44,320
In fact, I got just the

2607
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:46,432
opposite, where people were

2608
02:00:46,769 --> 02:00:47,970
excited, and ecstatic that the

2609
02:00:47,970 --> 02:00:49,970
city final ly

2610
02:00:50,573 --> 02:00:51,673
ly passed a homestead

2611
02:00:51,673 --> 02:00:52,441
exemption, with the

2612
02:00:52,441 --> 02:00:54,543
understanding that we will

2613
02:00:54,543 --> 02:00:56,345
continue to work on that, and

2614
02:00:56,345 --> 02:00:58,745
raise it over time.

2615
02:00:58,881 --> 02:00:59,815
Now is the right time.

2616
02:00:59,815 --> 02:01:01,815
$42 million carryover.

2617
02:01:01,851 --> 02:01:03,786
I don't know, ben, just a head

2618
02:01:03,786 --> 02:01:05,320
nod, was that $6 million that we

2619
02:01:05,320 --> 02:01:07,990
had set aside this year, was

2620
02:01:07,990 --> 02:01:09,825
that the actual cost or was that

2621
02:01:09,825 --> 02:01:11,825
the budgeted cost?

2622
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:17,496
>> COUNCILMAN, that would be

2623
02:01:20,136 --> 02:01:22,300
very close to the actual cost.

2624
02:01:22,300 --> 02:01:24,300
>> Perry: all right.

2625
02:01:24,306 --> 02:01:26,306
So, yeah.

2626
02:01:27,576 --> 02:01:29,779
I just -- $42 million carryover,

2627
02:01:29,779 --> 02:01:30,713
and we can't afford 7 million

2628
02:01:30,713 --> 02:01:33,348
for our homeowners that are

2629
02:01:33,348 --> 02:01:35,348
struggling out there.

2630
02:01:35,785 --> 02:01:36,180
That's all I've got, sir.

2631
02:01:36,180 --> 02:01:36,886
Thanks.

2632
02:01:36,886 --> 02:01:37,319
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

2633
02:01:37,319 --> 02:01:37,687
COUNCILMAN Perry.

2634
02:01:37,687 --> 02:01:39,687
All right.

2635
02:01:40,289 --> 02:01:42,358
That has been a helpful -- it

2636
02:01:42,358 --> 02:01:45,930
took a little bit longer than we

2637
02:01:45,930 --> 02:01:45,361
anticipated for the 30-minute

2638
02:01:45,361 --> 02:01:47,196
allotment.

2639
02:01:47,196 --> 02:01:47,429
But we're going to keep moving

2640
02:01:47,429 --> 02:01:49,429
here.

2641
02:01:50,980 --> 02:01:52,801
Let me turn it back to erik for

2642
02:01:52,801 --> 02:01:53,200
any closing comments on the

2643
02:01:53,200 --> 02:01:54,300
recap.

2644
02:01:54,300 --> 02:01:55,237
>> thanks, mayor.

2645
02:01:55,237 --> 02:01:55,571
So thank you for the

2646
02:01:55,571 --> 02:01:56,710
conversation.

2647
02:01:56,710 --> 02:01:58,710
It was helpful.

2648
02:02:00,176 --> 02:02:01,100
I think we have an idea of where

2649
02:02:01,100 --> 02:02:03,410
the group is at.

2650
02:02:04,714 --> 02:02:05,781
I do want to just [Lapse in

2651
02:02:05,781 --> 02:02:07,781
audio] The $42 million.

2652
02:02:10,919 --> 02:02:15,119
Part of that was part of the

2653
02:02:16,180 --> 02:02:16,110
[Lapse in audio] Took this time

2654
02:02:16,110 --> 02:02:16,559
last year to contract our

2655
02:02:16,559 --> 02:02:18,559
organization.

2656
02:02:21,431 --> 02:02:22,932
And part of that $42 million

2657
02:02:22,932 --> 02:02:25,834
[Lapse in audio] That the

2658
02:02:25,834 --> 02:02:28,738
forecast two months ago, we saw

2659
02:02:28,738 --> 02:02:29,380
us continuing to lag

2660
02:02:29,380 --> 02:02:30,539
financially.

2661
02:02:30,539 --> 02:02:33,409
And it's just been in the last

2662
02:02:33,409 --> 02:02:35,378
two months where we've seen the

2663
02:02:35,378 --> 02:02:37,212
serious uptick, and you remember

2664
02:02:37,212 --> 02:02:40,383
the slides last week that it

2665
02:02:40,383 --> 02:02:41,217
represented in sales tax and in

2666
02:02:41,217 --> 02:02:43,217
cps.

2667
02:02:44,453 --> 02:02:45,955
Cps is our most unpredictable

2668
02:02:45,955 --> 02:02:47,955
revenue source.

2669
02:02:48,900 --> 02:02:49,558
To this point it has been one of

2670
02:02:49,558 --> 02:02:51,260
our most stable.

2671
02:02:51,260 --> 02:02:52,662
That explains the turbulence

2672
02:02:52,662 --> 02:02:55,364
that we've been dealing with.

2673
02:02:55,364 --> 02:02:55,664
There is a fair amount of

2674
02:02:55,664 --> 02:02:57,664
uncertainty.

2675
02:02:58,300 --> 02:03:00,336
We do have $42 million, but I

2676
02:03:00,336 --> 02:03:03,936
would say that just like we

2677
02:03:05,308 --> 02:03:06,209
reminded the council last week,

2678
02:03:06,209 --> 02:03:08,609
determining how long that

2679
02:03:10,450 --> 02:03:14,245
upswing is going to go, and how

2680
02:03:14,483 --> 02:03:16,483
high, is difficult.

2681
02:03:17,620 --> 02:03:18,521
And I think we should proceed

2682
02:03:18,521 --> 02:03:20,521
cautiously.

2683
02:03:20,890 --> 02:03:22,890
And somewhat conservatively

2684
02:03:23,920 --> 02:03:24,994
because of those facts.

2685
02:03:24,994 --> 02:03:26,396
We are not back a hundred

2686
02:03:26,396 --> 02:03:29,932
percent, and it will take some

2687
02:03:29,932 --> 02:03:31,234
time for us to get back to 2019

2688
02:03:31,234 --> 02:03:32,268
levels from an organizational

2689
02:03:32,268 --> 02:03:34,268
stand point.

2690
02:03:34,337 --> 02:03:35,710
I think we just need to be

2691
02:03:35,710 --> 02:03:37,710
mindful of that.

2692
02:03:37,540 --> 02:03:39,274
I think I have what I need for

2693
02:03:39,274 --> 02:03:41,674
that first part, mayor.

2694
02:03:42,780 --> 02:03:43,713
So our next section is our

2695
02:03:43,713 --> 02:03:45,714
strategic growth health plan.

2696
02:03:45,714 --> 02:03:48,714
And DR. Bridger will be

2697
02:03:48,884 --> 02:03:50,653
presenting it.

2698
02:03:50,653 --> 02:03:52,622
>> good morning, everybody.

2699
02:03:52,622 --> 02:03:55,725
It's a long time to be sitting.

2700
02:03:55,725 --> 02:03:59,295
You will not hurt my feelings if

2701
02:03:59,295 --> 02:03:59,629
you need to stand up, pace, do

2702
02:03:59,629 --> 02:04:01,330
calisthenics.

2703
02:04:01,330 --> 02:04:03,330
I'm also going to try to go

2704
02:04:03,330 --> 02:04:03,466
really fast to try to make up

2705
02:04:03,466 --> 02:04:05,466
some time.

2706
02:04:05,568 --> 02:04:06,336
So with that, we'll go ahead and

2707
02:04:06,336 --> 02:04:07,603
get started.

2708
02:04:07,603 --> 02:04:11,203
So what I'm going to present

2709
02:04:11,975 --> 02:04:12,808
today is what we're calling the

2710
02:04:12,808 --> 02:04:14,510
strategic growth plan.

2711
02:04:14,510 --> 02:04:17,510
We started working on this

2712
02:04:20,483 --> 02:04:20,650
growth plan back in JANUARY of

2713
02:04:20,650 --> 02:04:22,650
2020

2714
02:04:22,752 --> 02:04:23,853
2021, full of optimism, the

2715
02:04:23,853 --> 02:04:25,488
pandemic was ending.

2716
02:04:25,488 --> 02:04:27,230
Under the new administration

2717
02:04:27,230 --> 02:04:27,790
there were federal resources for

2718
02:04:27,790 --> 02:04:29,250
public health.

2719
02:04:29,250 --> 02:04:30,694
Also through the lens of what

2720
02:04:30,694 --> 02:04:33,863
have we learned as a result of

2721
02:04:33,863 --> 02:04:37,434
the pandemic, and so we put

2722
02:04:37,434 --> 02:04:39,834
together this growth plan.

2723
02:04:40,203 --> 02:04:42,500
It does nest within our existing

2724
02:04:42,500 --> 02:04:42,605
four-year strategic plan at the

2725
02:04:42,605 --> 02:04:44,605
health department.

2726
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:48,608
It uses braided funding, and it

2727
02:04:48,678 --> 02:04:49,713
continues our focus on early

2728
02:04:49,713 --> 02:04:51,713
intervention, addressing the

2729
02:04:52,415 --> 02:04:54,451
root causes of our community's

2730
02:04:54,451 --> 02:04:56,452
most difficult and entrenched

2731
02:04:56,452 --> 02:04:58,452
public health challenges.

2732
02:04:58,788 --> 02:04:59,923
So has a reminder, the health

2733
02:04:59,923 --> 02:05:02,323
department's vision is helping

2734
02:05:02,525 --> 02:05:02,792
people thriving in a healthy

2735
02:05:02,792 --> 02:05:04,728
community.

2736
02:05:04,728 --> 02:05:07,128
Under our current strategic

2737
02:05:07,964 --> 02:05:10,800
plan, our priorities are [Lapse

2738
02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:11,968
in audio] Prevention, nutrition,

2739
02:05:11,968 --> 02:05:13,637
access to care.

2740
02:05:13,637 --> 02:05:15,505
The guiding principles that we

2741
02:05:15,505 --> 02:05:18,775
used in the creation of both the

2742
02:05:18,775 --> 02:05:21,775
existing strategic plan and this

2743
02:05:21,911 --> 02:05:23,846
growth plan are social justice.

2744
02:05:23,846 --> 02:05:26,846
We have four categories of

2745
02:05:28,218 --> 02:05:31,218
expansion in this growth plan.

2746
02:05:31,587 --> 02:05:32,322
Mental health, health justice,

2747
02:05:32,322 --> 02:05:34,322
technology and infrastructure.

2748
02:05:35,625 --> 02:05:38,940
I want to say health justice is

2749
02:05:38,940 --> 02:05:40,697
a [Lapse in audio] At the health

2750
02:05:40,697 --> 02:05:41,698
department, it represents both a

2751
02:05:41,698 --> 02:05:44,668
focus on health equity and

2752
02:05:44,668 --> 02:05:46,668
social justice.

2753
02:05:48,638 --> 02:05:49,706
I'm going to go through the four

2754
02:05:49,706 --> 02:05:50,507
categories rather quickly.

2755
02:05:50,507 --> 02:05:50,973
You do have these slides.

2756
02:05:50,973 --> 02:05:53,610
You have all of this

2757
02:05:53,610 --> 02:05:55,610
information.

2758
02:05:56,747 --> 02:05:57,914
We do have one-pagers on each of

2759
02:05:57,914 --> 02:05:59,115
these, so if there is a

2760
02:05:59,115 --> 02:06:01,115
particular initiative you're

2761
02:06:01,384 --> 02:06:02,753
interested in, give me a high

2762
02:06:02,753 --> 02:06:03,186
sign and I'll e-mail that to

2763
02:06:03,186 --> 02:06:04,454
you.

2764
02:06:04,454 --> 02:06:07,240
In the category of mental

2765
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:08,124
health, some of the activities

2766
02:06:08,124 --> 02:06:09,793
that we would recommend

2767
02:06:09,793 --> 02:06:11,394
undertaking is, first, hiring a

2768
02:06:11,394 --> 02:06:13,263
chief mental health officer for

2769
02:06:13,263 --> 02:06:16,990
the city of san antonio.

2770
02:06:16,990 --> 02:06:18,602
We have a number of departments

2771
02:06:18,602 --> 02:06:19,837
that are in the area of mental

2772
02:06:19,837 --> 02:06:21,371
health, but we don't have one

2773
02:06:21,371 --> 02:06:22,172
person who understands

2774
02:06:22,172 --> 02:06:23,407
everything that's happening at

2775
02:06:23,407 --> 02:06:25,275
the city.

2776
02:06:25,275 --> 02:06:26,877
This would allow us to do that.

2777
02:06:26,877 --> 02:06:28,512
We will also continue to build

2778
02:06:28,512 --> 02:06:31,782
on the work that we've been

2779
02:06:31,782 --> 02:06:34,170
doing over the last three years,

2780
02:06:34,170 --> 02:06:35,819
specific to adverse childhood

2781
02:06:35,819 --> 02:06:36,687
experiences and trauma-informed

2782
02:06:36,687 --> 02:06:38,687
approaches.

2783
02:06:38,822 --> 02:06:41,691
And we've created a certifying

2784
02:06:41,691 --> 02:06:43,994
process for the community to go

2785
02:06:43,994 --> 02:06:46,530
through, but what this does is

2786
02:06:46,530 --> 02:06:49,530
strengthen that in the city.

2787
02:06:50,534 --> 02:06:53,404
And at the end of every

2788
02:06:53,404 --> 02:06:54,204
department certified in trauma

2789
02:06:54,204 --> 02:06:56,204
informed care.

2790
02:06:57,508 --> 02:07:01,511
Another one that we will work on

2791
02:07:01,511 --> 02:07:02,512
is restorative justice

2792
02:07:02,512 --> 02:07:02,746
initiatives with at least five

2793
02:07:02,746 --> 02:07:04,746
schools.

2794
02:07:05,148 --> 02:07:08,748
You know, people always ask me,

2795
02:07:09,860 --> 02:07:10,486
if we could only do one thing to

2796
02:07:10,486 --> 02:07:11,988
improve public health, and it

2797
02:07:11,988 --> 02:07:13,323
surprises them when I say,

2798
02:07:13,323 --> 02:07:15,291
invest in education.

2799
02:07:15,291 --> 02:07:16,393
Education is the single best

2800
02:07:16,393 --> 02:07:17,940
predictor of a person's health

2801
02:07:17,940 --> 02:07:19,940
throughout their life.

2802
02:07:19,563 --> 02:07:20,898
So when we have kids who are

2803
02:07:20,898 --> 02:07:23,898
struggling, and our solution to

2804
02:07:24,335 --> 02:07:27,537
that is to kick them out of

2805
02:07:27,537 --> 02:07:30,700
school, we are not investing in

2806
02:07:30,700 --> 02:07:31,207
their life-long health.

2807
02:07:31,207 --> 02:07:33,444
So restorative justice does make

2808
02:07:33,444 --> 02:07:34,578
a lot of sense when we think

2809
02:07:34,578 --> 02:07:36,446
about public health.

2810
02:07:36,446 --> 02:07:39,490
Some of the younger programs,

2811
02:07:39,490 --> 02:07:41,318
expanding our pilot that works

2812
02:07:41,318 --> 02:07:43,320
exceptionally well to provide

2813
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,720
cognitive behavioral therapy for

2814
02:07:45,889 --> 02:07:47,580
kids who have been victims or

2815
02:07:47,580 --> 02:07:48,925
witnessed violence.

2816
02:07:48,925 --> 02:07:49,793
Really great evidence in that

2817
02:07:49,793 --> 02:07:51,328
area.

2818
02:07:51,328 --> 02:07:53,728
Expanding our case management

2819
02:07:54,865 --> 02:07:55,266
services for domestic violence

2820
02:07:55,266 --> 02:07:57,266
survivors.

2821
02:07:57,501 --> 02:07:59,102
Recognizing a complex system.

2822
02:07:59,102 --> 02:08:02,373
They need to know how to

2823
02:08:02,373 --> 02:08:02,772
navigate, and they need help in

2824
02:08:02,772 --> 02:08:04,842
order to do that.

2825
02:08:04,842 --> 02:08:06,676
And expanding our team

2826
02:08:06,676 --> 02:08:08,412
ambassador program focusing

2827
02:08:08,412 --> 02:08:09,779
exclusively on teen pregnancy

2828
02:08:09,779 --> 02:08:10,447
prevention also to include

2829
02:08:10,447 --> 02:08:12,447
mental health.

2830
02:08:13,551 --> 02:08:15,951
Under our health justice

2831
02:08:16,553 --> 02:08:18,210
category, we're expanding some

2832
02:08:18,210 --> 02:08:18,922
programs that we've had at the

2833
02:08:18,922 --> 02:08:20,357
health department for many

2834
02:08:20,357 --> 02:08:20,991
years, but we're doing it

2835
02:08:20,991 --> 02:08:23,391
through using the community

2836
02:08:23,627 --> 02:08:25,428
health worker model.

2837
02:08:25,428 --> 02:08:27,364
So improving access to

2838
02:08:27,364 --> 02:08:29,466
restaurants that serve healthy

2839
02:08:29,466 --> 02:08:30,670
food, and understanding of how

2840
02:08:30,670 --> 02:08:33,300
do you have access to healthy

2841
02:08:33,300 --> 02:08:35,300
food.

2842
02:08:35,772 --> 02:08:38,809
We're also going to be working

2843
02:08:38,809 --> 02:08:41,746
with the [Lapse in audio] Local

2844
02:08:41,746 --> 02:08:43,447
food system collaborative who

2845
02:08:43,447 --> 02:08:43,747
can really address food

2846
02:08:43,747 --> 02:08:44,882
insecurity.

2847
02:08:44,882 --> 02:08:46,450
That's something that we've been

2848
02:08:46,450 --> 02:08:47,785
doing a little bit, but this

2849
02:08:47,785 --> 02:08:50,785
allows us to really invest

2850
02:08:51,210 --> 02:08:52,390
solidly in that work.

2851
02:08:52,390 --> 02:08:55,393
and then I'm going to skip over

2852
02:08:55,393 --> 02:08:58,396
some of these to go faster.

2853
02:08:58,396 --> 02:09:00,498
But in the -- a lot of you have

2854
02:09:00,498 --> 02:09:03,768
heard of our stand up sa program

2855
02:09:03,768 --> 02:09:04,680
which is a violence prevention

2856
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:06,680
initiative.

2857
02:09:07,338 --> 02:09:09,573
And we have expanded that in

2858
02:09:09,573 --> 02:09:11,375
this last year to go into

2859
02:09:11,375 --> 02:09:13,544
hospitals and trauma centers.

2860
02:09:13,544 --> 02:09:16,213
So if somebody shows up as a

2861
02:09:16,213 --> 02:09:18,148
result of a gunshot, for

2862
02:09:18,148 --> 02:09:20,851
example, they can begin their

2863
02:09:20,851 --> 02:09:21,986
work of interrupting the

2864
02:09:21,986 --> 02:09:23,988
retaliatory nature of violence

2865
02:09:23,988 --> 02:09:25,622
right there in the hospital, and

2866
02:09:25,622 --> 02:09:30,422
not have to wait for it to get

2867
02:09:31,628 --> 02:09:33,628
into the community.

2868
02:09:33,931 --> 02:09:34,231
[Lapse in audio] Health worker

2869
02:09:34,231 --> 02:09:36,231
hub.

2870
02:09:36,300 --> 02:09:36,401
One of the things that we have

2871
02:09:36,401 --> 02:09:38,401
-

2872
02:09:38,803 --> 02:09:40,805
learned in the pandemic is that

2873
02:09:40,805 --> 02:09:42,439
a number of different

2874
02:09:42,439 --> 02:09:44,439
organizations have effectively

2875
02:09:45,843 --> 02:09:47,344
used community health workers to

2876
02:09:47,344 --> 02:09:49,480
do some of that door-to-door

2877
02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:50,748
work that you were talking about

2878
02:09:50,748 --> 02:09:52,516
earlier, and to really meet

2879
02:09:52,516 --> 02:09:54,752
people where they are in order

2880
02:09:54,752 --> 02:09:56,200
to help them figure out whatever

2881
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,220
it is that they need.

2882
02:09:58,220 --> 02:09:59,190
In recognition of that, we would

2883
02:09:59,190 --> 02:10:01,291
establish a community health

2884
02:10:01,291 --> 02:10:03,261
worker hub.

2885
02:10:03,261 --> 02:10:04,629
So health workers will be able

2886
02:10:04,629 --> 02:10:05,896
to gather together, learn about

2887
02:10:05,896 --> 02:10:08,666
all of the different resources

2888
02:10:08,666 --> 02:10:11,635
that exist in the community, as

2889
02:10:11,635 --> 02:10:13,871
well as learn from each other

2890
02:10:13,871 --> 02:10:15,640
about best practices.

2891
02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:18,943
Then, again, I'm going to try to

2892
02:10:18,943 --> 02:10:21,343
skip some of these.

2893
02:10:23,914 --> 02:10:25,583
[Lapse in audio] Policies for

2894
02:10:25,583 --> 02:10:26,985
two major healthcare sis 2e78s.

2895
02:10:26,985 --> 02:10:29,954
A healthcare system is a

2896
02:10:29,954 --> 02:10:33,554
hospital, yes, but it could also

2897
02:10:33,858 --> 02:10:34,625
be our fqac system that have

2898
02:10:34,625 --> 02:10:35,626
multiple locations where they

2899
02:10:35,626 --> 02:10:37,626
deliver services.

2900
02:10:39,663 --> 02:10:40,598
And finally, medical legal

2901
02:10:40,598 --> 02:10:42,598
partnerships.

2902
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:45,270
They're really neat partnerships

2903
02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:46,370
between doctors' offices and

2904
02:10:46,370 --> 02:10:48,370
attorneys' offices.

2905
02:10:48,873 --> 02:10:50,842
And often what happens is a

2906
02:10:50,842 --> 02:10:53,678
mother will bring her child to

2907
02:10:53,678 --> 02:10:55,880
the doctor -- for example, for

2908
02:10:55,880 --> 02:10:57,481
another recurrence of asthma.

2909
02:10:57,481 --> 02:10:59,984
The doctor will say, I don't

2910
02:10:59,984 --> 02:11:02,420
know what's going on, he's on

2911
02:11:02,420 --> 02:11:03,321
all the right meds, he's doing

2912
02:11:03,321 --> 02:11:04,923
everything he should.

2913
02:11:04,923 --> 02:11:05,656
The mother says, I know exactly

2914
02:11:05,656 --> 02:11:07,656
what's going on.

2915
02:11:07,825 --> 02:11:09,761
We live in a house with a leaky

2916
02:11:09,761 --> 02:11:11,229
roof and there's mold everywhere

2917
02:11:11,229 --> 02:11:14,799
and we can't get the landlord to

2918
02:11:14,799 --> 02:11:16,567
fix it.

2919
02:11:16,567 --> 02:11:18,102
This medical/legal partnership

2920
02:11:18,102 --> 02:11:20,500
could meet with the landlord to

2921
02:11:20,500 --> 02:11:22,274
make the required improvements

2922
02:11:22,274 --> 02:11:23,708
thus resulting in improved

2923
02:11:23,708 --> 02:11:25,708
health outcomes.

2924
02:11:26,444 --> 02:11:27,444
The last category, technology

2925
02:11:27,444 --> 02:11:28,880
and infrastructure.

2926
02:11:28,880 --> 02:11:32,480
Again, recognizing that we had a

2927
02:11:32,517 --> 02:11:32,950
lot of technology challenges

2928
02:11:32,950 --> 02:11:34,950
during the pandemic.

2929
02:11:35,387 --> 02:11:38,387
We do have a technology

2930
02:11:39,757 --> 02:11:42,157
infrastructure fund to improve

2931
02:11:42,327 --> 02:11:42,693
[Lapse in audio] Reporting and

2932
02:11:42,693 --> 02:11:44,693
investigations.

2933
02:11:45,396 --> 02:11:46,970
So all those lessons we learned

2934
02:11:46,970 --> 02:11:48,970
from covid.

2935
02:11:50,935 --> 02:11:51,736
I call this the anti-

2936
02:11:51,736 --> 02:11:51,937
anti-(Indiscernible) Machine

2937
02:11:51,937 --> 02:11:53,839
fund.

2938
02:11:53,839 --> 02:11:54,171
It helps us do a better job with

2939
02:11:54,171 --> 02:11:56,171
technology.

2940
02:11:57,410 --> 02:11:59,441
For all infectious diseases.

2941
02:12:00,345 --> 02:12:01,790
It also establishes a policy and

2942
02:12:01,790 --> 02:12:02,981
partnerships, giving a nod to

2943
02:12:02,981 --> 02:12:04,482
the fact that the health

2944
02:12:04,482 --> 02:12:06,217
department is currently serving

2945
02:12:06,217 --> 02:12:08,153
as a backbone organization for a

2946
02:12:08,153 --> 02:12:08,453
number of community-wide

2947
02:12:08,453 --> 02:12:10,453
initiatives.

2948
02:12:12,991 --> 02:12:15,627
So we've got our end stigma hiv

2949
02:12:15,627 --> 02:12:16,828
alliance which brings together

2950
02:12:16,828 --> 02:12:19,164
every service together in the

2951
02:12:19,164 --> 02:12:20,966
city to address hiv.

2952
02:12:20,966 --> 02:12:23,966
That's staffed by metro health.

2953
02:12:24,802 --> 02:12:26,704
We've got the trauma-informed

2954
02:12:26,704 --> 02:12:28,773
care consortium, and we've even

2955
02:12:28,773 --> 02:12:30,342
got the mayor's fitness council.

2956
02:12:30,342 --> 02:12:32,678
We need to be able to have all

2957
02:12:32,678 --> 02:12:33,912
of those different initiatives

2958
02:12:33,912 --> 02:12:36,214
in one place and learn from each

2959
02:12:36,214 --> 02:12:38,416
other, and we can be more

2960
02:12:38,416 --> 02:12:39,251
proactive in doing more of that.

2961
02:12:39,251 --> 02:12:41,119
The health department's never

2962
02:12:41,119 --> 02:12:42,488
going to be the sole source

2963
02:12:42,488 --> 02:12:44,423
provider for any of these public

2964
02:12:44,423 --> 02:12:44,890
health initiatives we're dealing

2965
02:12:44,890 --> 02:12:46,658
with.

2966
02:12:46,658 --> 02:12:49,294
This allows us to bring the

2967
02:12:49,294 --> 02:12:51,630
community together and work

2968
02:12:51,630 --> 02:12:52,330
together.

2969
02:12:52,330 --> 02:12:53,866
Funding-wise, I did mention this

2970
02:12:53,866 --> 02:12:56,801
was a braided funding approach.

2971
02:12:56,801 --> 02:12:58,470
And this is a five-year plan.

2972
02:12:58,470 --> 02:13:01,439
What this slide shows you is

2973
02:13:01,439 --> 02:13:03,108
that in year one and year two,

2974
02:13:03,108 --> 02:13:04,900
this plan is entirely funded

2975
02:13:04,900 --> 02:13:06,900
through grants.

2976
02:13:06,611 --> 02:13:09,615
And funds that are left over

2977
02:13:09,615 --> 02:13:10,983
from health implementation plan.

2978
02:13:10,983 --> 02:13:11,616
We received significant grant

2979
02:13:11,616 --> 02:13:12,718
dollars from the federal

2980
02:13:12,718 --> 02:13:13,819
government to cover the cost of

2981
02:13:13,819 --> 02:13:15,653
the covid response.

2982
02:13:15,653 --> 02:13:17,880
That allows us to take the

2983
02:13:17,880 --> 02:13:18,657
dollars that the city allocated

2984
02:13:18,657 --> 02:13:21,527
to the health department and

2985
02:13:21,527 --> 02:13:24,950
invest that into these broader

2986
02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:25,831
public health initiatives.

2987
02:13:25,831 --> 02:13:27,633
So first two years, first year

2988
02:13:27,633 --> 02:13:29,167
about 15 million, second year at

2989
02:13:29,167 --> 02:13:31,536
about 16 million is completely

2990
02:13:31,536 --> 02:13:32,370
covered by grants and health

2991
02:13:32,370 --> 02:13:34,106
implementation plan funding.

2992
02:13:34,106 --> 02:13:36,740
After that, we start to

2993
02:13:36,740 --> 02:13:37,709
integrate some of the city

2994
02:13:37,709 --> 02:13:39,978
general fund dollars in with

2995
02:13:39,978 --> 02:13:40,178
grants and health implementation

2996
02:13:40,178 --> 02:13:42,178
plan.

2997
02:13:42,213 --> 02:13:45,450
And then right now, show year

2998
02:13:45,450 --> 02:13:48,450
four and five as exclusively

2999
02:13:49,530 --> 02:13:50,489
funded by the fund dollars.

3000
02:13:50,489 --> 02:13:52,191
The presenter previously

3001
02:13:52,191 --> 02:13:54,930
mentioned that we are already

3002
02:13:54,930 --> 02:13:56,228
starting to set aside funding in

3003
02:13:56,228 --> 02:13:59,298
order to be able to have the

3004
02:13:59,298 --> 02:13:59,497
money necessary starting in year

3005
02:13:59,497 --> 02:14:01,497
three.

3006
02:14:01,866 --> 02:14:02,200
That is the end of my

3007
02:14:02,200 --> 02:14:04,200
presentation.

3008
02:14:05,604 --> 02:14:05,871
And I'm happy to answer any

3009
02:14:05,871 --> 02:14:06,471
questions.

3010
02:14:06,471 --> 02:14:08,871
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you

3011
02:14:10,410 --> 02:14:12,441
very much, DR. Bridger.

3012
02:14:12,578 --> 02:14:13,979
I'm just very pleased with the

3013
02:14:13,979 --> 02:14:15,647
progress of this strategic plan.

3014
02:14:15,647 --> 02:14:16,748
And in particular, the

3015
02:14:16,748 --> 02:14:17,783
sustainability of the funding

3016
02:14:17,783 --> 02:14:19,585
that will occur over the period

3017
02:14:19,585 --> 02:14:21,585
of time.

3018
02:14:22,387 --> 02:14:25,230
What happened to the grants, how

3019
02:14:25,230 --> 02:14:28,760
does it shift and how does it

3020
02:14:28,760 --> 02:14:29,494
impact the overall mental health

3021
02:14:29,494 --> 02:14:31,263
[Lapse in audio].

3022
02:14:31,263 --> 02:14:32,298
I'm guessing we'll go into it a

3023
02:14:32,298 --> 02:14:33,999
little more.

3024
02:14:33,999 --> 02:14:35,200
>> the nice thing we put

3025
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:36,235
together the budget for the

3026
02:14:36,235 --> 02:14:37,369
strategic growth plan is we

3027
02:14:37,369 --> 02:14:39,238
don't get into that situation

3028
02:14:39,238 --> 02:14:40,706
where we have two years of

3029
02:14:40,706 --> 02:14:41,173
grants and then we fall off a

3030
02:14:41,173 --> 02:14:42,741
funding cliff.

3031
02:14:42,741 --> 02:14:46,111
We have a plan for how we will

3032
02:14:46,111 --> 02:14:47,112
be able to integrate those

3033
02:14:47,112 --> 02:14:48,747
effective programs and services

3034
02:14:48,747 --> 02:14:50,749
into the base budget for the

3035
02:14:50,749 --> 02:14:52,749
health department.

3036
02:14:54,353 --> 02:14:56,121
>> Mayor Nirenberg: and I'm also

3037
02:14:56,121 --> 02:14:57,823
grateful for the very

3038
02:14:57,823 --> 02:14:59,759
deliberative approach in

3039
02:14:59,759 --> 02:15:02,940
demonstrating the framework of

3040
02:15:02,940 --> 02:15:04,663
equity in all the operations in

3041
02:15:04,663 --> 02:15:06,663
the strategic plan.

3042
02:15:07,633 --> 02:15:08,467
Particularly with the health

3043
02:15:08,467 --> 02:15:10,535
justice aspects of it.

3044
02:15:10,535 --> 02:15:12,380
How are we getting reports back

3045
02:15:12,380 --> 02:15:13,572
to the council on the progress?

3046
02:15:13,572 --> 02:15:15,608
>> let me jump in here.

3047
02:15:15,608 --> 02:15:18,610
Because part of this is that

3048
02:15:18,610 --> 02:15:20,813
we'll be working through the

3049
02:15:20,813 --> 02:15:21,379
impre mentation plan through the

3050
02:15:21,379 --> 02:15:23,379
summer.

3051
02:15:23,449 --> 02:15:24,249
as colleen mentioned, she and

3052
02:15:24,249 --> 02:15:25,984
the health department started

3053
02:15:25,984 --> 02:15:27,860
working on reviving and updating

3054
02:15:27,860 --> 02:15:28,754
our strategic plan that was

3055
02:15:28,754 --> 02:15:30,189
already in existence with what

3056
02:15:30,189 --> 02:15:32,925
we've learned over the last 16

3057
02:15:32,925 --> 02:15:34,727
or 17 months.

3058
02:15:34,727 --> 02:15:37,127
They're very far along.

3059
02:15:38,163 --> 02:15:38,997
What we need to spend time on

3060
02:15:38,997 --> 02:15:41,500
this summer, in the month of

3061
02:15:41,500 --> 02:15:42,735
JULY, is the actual

3062
02:15:42,735 --> 02:15:42,969
implementation plan for next

3063
02:15:42,969 --> 02:15:43,735
summer.

3064
02:15:43,735 --> 02:15:46,135
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay, good.

3065
02:15:46,138 --> 02:15:47,839
>> one question I have gotten, I

3066
02:15:47,839 --> 02:15:49,608
think from chuck is, which of

3067
02:15:49,608 --> 02:15:50,843
these are you starting in the

3068
02:15:50,843 --> 02:15:52,843
first year.

3069
02:15:52,878 --> 02:15:54,747
This growth plan is a five-year

3070
02:15:54,747 --> 02:15:56,983
plan, and we are starting every

3071
02:15:56,983 --> 02:15:57,583
single initiative in year one.

3072
02:15:57,583 --> 02:15:59,583
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay.

3073
02:16:00,419 --> 02:16:02,154
>> the outcomes that we have are

3074
02:16:02,154 --> 02:16:04,554
five-year outcomes, with the

3075
02:16:04,957 --> 02:16:06,392
expectation that every one of

3076
02:16:06,392 --> 02:16:06,592
these initiatives starts in year

3077
02:16:06,592 --> 02:16:07,626
one.

3078
02:16:07,626 --> 02:16:09,495
>> Mayor Nirenberg: all right.

3079
02:16:09,495 --> 02:16:12,798
With respect to the metro --

3080
02:16:12,798 --> 02:16:14,634
excuse me, the mental health

3081
02:16:14,634 --> 02:16:15,902
officer, if that's a

3082
02:16:15,902 --> 02:16:16,969
recommendation of you and your

3083
02:16:16,969 --> 02:16:17,503
department, I would fully

3084
02:16:17,503 --> 02:16:19,503
support it.

3085
02:16:20,239 --> 02:16:21,808
We obviously have the need.

3086
02:16:21,808 --> 02:16:22,108
Are we coordinating with the

3087
02:16:22,108 --> 02:16:24,108
county?

3088
02:16:24,109 --> 02:16:25,477
I know they've been discussing

3089
02:16:25,477 --> 02:16:27,179
significant investments,

3090
02:16:27,179 --> 02:16:28,580
particularly in mental health.

3091
02:16:28,580 --> 02:16:29,815
What kind of alignment and

3092
02:16:29,815 --> 02:16:30,150
coordination are we doing with

3093
02:16:30,150 --> 02:16:32,150
them?

3094
02:16:34,787 --> 02:16:36,787
>> the city has

3095
02:16:36,788 --> 02:16:38,900
is on the mental

3096
02:16:38,900 --> 02:16:40,900
health task force.

3097
02:16:41,270 --> 02:16:42,828
We are working very closely with

3098
02:16:42,828 --> 02:16:44,828
them.

3099
02:16:48,234 --> 02:16:50,336
The thought is that as you all

3100
02:16:50,336 --> 02:16:51,370
have the arpa phase 2

3101
02:16:51,370 --> 02:16:52,571
conversation in the fall, that

3102
02:16:52,571 --> 02:16:54,374
will be in the report that goes

3103
02:16:54,374 --> 02:16:55,274
to the commissioner's report

3104
02:16:55,274 --> 02:16:57,274
around mental health.

3105
02:16:57,676 --> 02:16:59,945
We'll probably get that report

3106
02:16:59,945 --> 02:17:00,145
in the AUGUST, SEPTEMBER time

3107
02:17:00,145 --> 02:17:02,114
frame.

3108
02:17:02,114 --> 02:17:03,950
You'll probably be able to see a

3109
02:17:03,950 --> 02:17:05,284
bigger infrastructure need, and

3110
02:17:05,284 --> 02:17:07,653
take it from there.

3111
02:17:07,653 --> 02:17:09,855
>> Mayor Nirenberg: and so much

3112
02:17:09,855 --> 02:17:10,256
of this work is

3113
02:17:10,256 --> 02:17:12,256
interdisciplinary.

3114
02:17:12,525 --> 02:17:14,627
And so it would be helpful, as

3115
02:17:14,627 --> 02:17:18,227
you report back to the council,

3116
02:17:18,998 --> 02:17:20,466
where we see those lines, how

3117
02:17:20,466 --> 02:17:21,100
we're quaul

3118
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:23,100
lifying to the

3119
02:17:23,135 --> 02:17:23,602
investments, what they're

3120
02:17:23,602 --> 02:17:25,602
falling into.

3121
02:17:26,805 --> 02:17:28,274
It the affect public safety, it

3122
02:17:28,274 --> 02:17:28,875
will influence our

3123
02:17:28,875 --> 02:17:29,608
infrastructure budgets and

3124
02:17:29,608 --> 02:17:30,943
everything else.

3125
02:17:30,943 --> 02:17:32,178
It would be helpful to

3126
02:17:32,178 --> 02:17:34,130
understand how we're investing

3127
02:17:34,130 --> 02:17:35,648
each of those dollars and where

3128
02:17:35,648 --> 02:17:35,948
it's actually flowing into the

3129
02:17:35,948 --> 02:17:36,916
departments.

3130
02:17:36,916 --> 02:17:38,117
>> and outside the departments

3131
02:17:38,117 --> 02:17:40,117
as well, mayor.

3132
02:17:40,352 --> 02:17:41,654
There are, you know, dozens and

3133
02:17:41,654 --> 02:17:43,288
dozens of community partners

3134
02:17:43,288 --> 02:17:45,492
with whom we'll be working to

3135
02:17:45,492 --> 02:17:47,492
implement this plan.

3136
02:17:48,261 --> 02:17:50,263
>> Mayor Nirenberg: lastly, I'm

3137
02:17:50,263 --> 02:17:51,631
excited and greatly appreciate

3138
02:17:51,631 --> 02:17:52,499
the recognition of the community

3139
02:17:52,499 --> 02:17:53,133
health workers.

3140
02:17:53,133 --> 02:17:55,302
I was sitting here thinking

3141
02:17:55,302 --> 02:17:56,269
about the conversation that

3142
02:17:56,269 --> 02:17:58,504
councilmember bravo was talking

3143
02:17:58,504 --> 02:18:00,874
about the homestead exemption

3144
02:18:00,874 --> 02:18:02,509
signups, and how we could

3145
02:18:02,509 --> 02:18:03,910
potentially impact our community

3146
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:06,646
positively by doing the same

3147
02:18:06,646 --> 02:18:07,713
sort of outreach to sign them up

3148
02:18:07,713 --> 02:18:09,983
for various community health

3149
02:18:09,983 --> 02:18:12,983
access plans that are available,

3150
02:18:13,687 --> 02:18:15,622
whether it's communicare or

3151
02:18:15,622 --> 02:18:16,923
whatever, to make sure they're

3152
02:18:16,923 --> 02:18:18,724
availing themselves of the

3153
02:18:18,724 --> 02:18:20,159
health access that they might

3154
02:18:20,159 --> 02:18:23,759
have, and not be aware of.

3155
02:18:24,297 --> 02:18:26,399
The other thing is, finally,

3156
02:18:26,399 --> 02:18:29,690
maybe long shot, but hopefully

3157
02:18:29,690 --> 02:18:31,771
something will be done, but if

3158
02:18:31,771 --> 02:18:34,771
there is local intervention on

3159
02:18:35,307 --> 02:18:37,577
the expansion of medicaid, are

3160
02:18:37,577 --> 02:18:38,311
we prepared to enroll folks that

3161
02:18:38,311 --> 02:18:39,112
might be eligible?

3162
02:18:39,112 --> 02:18:40,846
>> yes.

3163
02:18:40,846 --> 02:18:43,846
We've actually always taken a

3164
02:18:45,180 --> 02:18:46,753
very active roll in the aca

3165
02:18:46,753 --> 02:18:48,880
enrollment, so we can use that

3166
02:18:48,880 --> 02:18:50,290
infrastructure in order to tweak

3167
02:18:50,290 --> 02:18:50,657
to make it for -- hopefully

3168
02:18:50,657 --> 02:18:52,657
we'll get that.

3169
02:18:53,126 --> 02:18:54,961
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay.

3170
02:18:54,961 --> 02:18:57,961
>> just a couple of comments.

3171
02:18:58,197 --> 02:19:00,399
I wanted to also add, we have

3172
02:19:00,399 --> 02:19:02,302
been, as you saw by the slides,

3173
02:19:02,302 --> 02:19:04,702
we've been extremely aggressive

3174
02:19:05,772 --> 02:19:08,750
in the idea that the things that

3175
02:19:08,750 --> 02:19:09,709
we have all experienced and the

3176
02:19:09,709 --> 02:19:12,109
conversations that the council

3177
02:19:13,980 --> 02:19:16,115
has had regarding the issue,

3178
02:19:16,115 --> 02:19:18,718
such as racism as a public

3179
02:19:18,718 --> 02:19:19,886
health issue last year, to

3180
02:19:19,886 --> 02:19:22,286
ensure those elements were

3181
02:19:23,623 --> 02:19:25,992
included in the updated

3182
02:19:25,992 --> 02:19:27,126
strategic framework.

3183
02:19:27,126 --> 02:19:30,630
[Lapse in audio] It is braided

3184
02:19:30,630 --> 02:19:33,663
and it will require us to

3185
02:19:33,733 --> 02:19:35,735
continue to invest, initially

3186
02:19:35,735 --> 02:19:37,470
using grant funds, but invest

3187
02:19:37,470 --> 02:19:39,305
with our own local dollars to be

3188
02:19:39,305 --> 02:19:41,608
able to support these systems.

3189
02:19:41,608 --> 02:19:42,843
The other thing I wanted to

3190
02:19:42,843 --> 02:19:43,610
mention, mayor, and

3191
02:19:43,610 --> 02:19:45,211
councilmembers remember this,

3192
02:19:45,211 --> 02:19:46,713
last year at the end of the

3193
02:19:46,713 --> 02:19:49,150
budget process, was a

3194
02:19:49,150 --> 02:19:51,415
conversation with the council

3195
02:19:54,530 --> 02:19:55,689
about how these health upstream

3196
02:19:55,689 --> 02:19:58,890
issues connect and coordinate

3197
02:19:59,250 --> 02:19:59,626
with care being provided by the

3198
02:19:59,626 --> 02:20:01,626
hospital system.

3199
02:20:03,230 --> 02:20:04,464
And in particular, uhs, the

3200
02:20:04,464 --> 02:20:06,320
public hospital district.

3201
02:20:06,320 --> 02:20:07,734
we had those conversations with

3202
02:20:07,734 --> 02:20:10,134
both commissioners court and

3203
02:20:11,504 --> 02:20:12,906
george hen dez, COUNCILWOMAN

3204
02:20:12,906 --> 02:20:14,441
Sandoval and I and colleen.

3205
02:20:14,441 --> 02:20:17,770
We have continued to do that,

3206
02:20:17,770 --> 02:20:17,611
share with them the upstream

3207
02:20:17,611 --> 02:20:19,379
strategic approach.

3208
02:20:19,379 --> 02:20:23,483
I think it's going to be really

3209
02:20:23,483 --> 02:20:25,985
critical that the city and uhs

3210
02:20:25,985 --> 02:20:27,420
to make sure it's braided in the

3211
02:20:27,420 --> 02:20:28,121
middle so we're providing better

3212
02:20:28,121 --> 02:20:29,222
outcomes for the city.

3213
02:20:29,222 --> 02:20:31,622
>> Mayor Nirenberg: it's number

3214
02:20:32,125 --> 02:20:33,760
one on your agenda list in terms

3215
02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:36,290
of the departments that we

3216
02:20:36,290 --> 02:20:37,497
tackle, and hopefully that is a

3217
02:20:37,497 --> 02:20:40,497
reflection of the priorities we

3218
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:42,636
have at the council.

3219
02:20:42,636 --> 02:20:43,537
I certainly feel that way.

3220
02:20:43,537 --> 02:20:45,537
So, councilmember sandoval?

3221
02:20:46,106 --> 02:20:48,506
>> Sandoval: thank you, mayor.

3222
02:20:49,476 --> 02:20:49,809
Thank you, DR. Bridger, for the

3223
02:20:49,809 --> 02:20:51,809
presentation.

3224
02:20:52,346 --> 02:20:54,147
I was recently talking to

3225
02:20:54,147 --> 02:20:55,715
someone who works in the youth

3226
02:20:55,715 --> 02:20:58,115
development, and they said,

3227
02:20:58,552 --> 02:20:59,353
we're going to have this

3228
02:20:59,353 --> 02:21:00,854
restorative justice program, it

3229
02:21:00,854 --> 02:21:02,890
will be in five schools in the

3230
02:21:02,890 --> 02:21:02,623
area, I hope they're all in

3231
02:21:02,623 --> 02:21:04,623
district 7.

3232
02:21:04,825 --> 02:21:07,260
And I said, we've got this great

3233
02:21:07,260 --> 02:21:08,228
strategic plan coming out.

3234
02:21:08,228 --> 02:21:10,530
It's like all the wonderful

3235
02:21:10,530 --> 02:21:13,333
ideas we ever had, but we

3236
02:21:13,333 --> 02:21:16,333
thought we wouldn't have the

3237
02:21:16,536 --> 02:21:18,238
funding for.

3238
02:21:18,238 --> 02:21:19,839
I'm thrilled to see these

3239
02:21:19,839 --> 02:21:20,574
initiatives here.

3240
02:21:20,574 --> 02:21:24,377
Thank you to you and your team

3241
02:21:24,377 --> 02:21:26,777
for putting this together.

3242
02:21:29,949 --> 02:21:32,349
A couple of things.

3243
02:21:33,654 --> 02:21:35,255
I love that so many of these are

3244
02:21:35,255 --> 02:21:38,255
addressing the root causes, some

3245
02:21:39,737 --> 02:21:41,995
of the causes of the inequities

3246
02:21:41,995 --> 02:21:45,320
in the steps along the way.

3247
02:21:45,320 --> 02:21:46,660
I'm happy to see the community

3248
02:21:46,660 --> 02:21:48,660
health worker hub.

3249
02:21:49,102 --> 02:21:49,803
I think it can be married to our

3250
02:21:49,803 --> 02:21:50,604
ready-to-work for community

3251
02:21:50,604 --> 02:21:52,604
health workers.

3252
02:21:54,943 --> 02:21:55,342
And I know where they can get a

3253
02:21:55,342 --> 02:21:56,877
job, at uhs, as well, if they

3254
02:21:56,877 --> 02:21:59,145
invest in this with us.

3255
02:21:59,145 --> 02:22:03,345
I also want to call attention to

3256
02:22:07,429 --> 02:22:07,577
something that you put in here

3257
02:22:07,577 --> 02:22:09,977
on slide 6 about anti-racism.

3258
02:22:11,250 --> 02:22:12,626
We have seen disparate health

3259
02:22:12,626 --> 02:22:13,193
outcomes, especially in the

3260
02:22:13,193 --> 02:22:14,528
african-american community.

3261
02:22:14,528 --> 02:22:17,528
Due to many, many things.

3262
02:22:17,631 --> 02:22:18,866
But some of that is when they

3263
02:22:18,866 --> 02:22:20,467
are seeking care, right?

3264
02:22:20,467 --> 02:22:20,634
Can you speak to that a little

3265
02:22:20,634 --> 02:22:22,634
bit?

3266
02:22:23,470 --> 02:22:25,639
>> one of the challenges that

3267
02:22:25,639 --> 02:22:29,420
we've seen for decades in public

3268
02:22:29,420 --> 02:22:32,246
health is this fact that people

3269
02:22:32,246 --> 02:22:33,947
of color are less likely to

3270
02:22:33,947 --> 02:22:34,214
access preventive health

3271
02:22:34,214 --> 02:22:36,214
services.

3272
02:22:37,170 --> 02:22:39,860
We kept thinking that we just

3273
02:22:39,860 --> 02:22:42,686
need to [Lapse in audio] About

3274
02:22:43,896 --> 02:22:44,320
importance, and we actually

3275
02:22:44,320 --> 02:22:45,959
talked to people and they were

3276
02:22:45,959 --> 02:22:47,528
like, I don't trust my doctor.

3277
02:22:47,528 --> 02:22:49,229
He doesn't know my lived

3278
02:22:49,229 --> 02:22:51,598
experience, he doesn't look like

3279
02:22:51,598 --> 02:22:52,133
me, he doesn't understand the

3280
02:22:52,133 --> 02:22:53,700
culture.

3281
02:22:53,700 --> 02:22:55,502
And so that's when we started, I

3282
02:22:55,502 --> 02:22:59,102
think, doing a little bit better

3283
02:22:59,373 --> 02:23:02,743
job of saying, look, we need to

3284
02:23:02,743 --> 02:23:04,445
recognize that [Lapse in audio]

3285
02:23:04,445 --> 02:23:06,445
They will come.

3286
02:23:07,848 --> 02:23:10,184
We need to make it relevant to

3287
02:23:10,184 --> 02:23:12,753
individuals and make it a

3288
02:23:12,753 --> 02:23:13,154
welcoming and comfortable

3289
02:23:13,154 --> 02:23:14,588
experience.

3290
02:23:14,588 --> 02:23:15,856
There's a ton of research out

3291
02:23:15,856 --> 02:23:17,291
there that shows that

3292
02:23:17,291 --> 02:23:19,291
african-americans, for example,

3293
02:23:19,626 --> 02:23:20,461
are much less likely to get the

3294
02:23:20,461 --> 02:23:22,229
appropriate treatment when

3295
02:23:22,229 --> 02:23:24,629
compared to white people.

3296
02:23:28,302 --> 02:23:28,535
And that's implicit across the

3297
02:23:28,535 --> 02:23:29,637
system.

3298
02:23:29,637 --> 02:23:31,605
>> Sandoval: thank you very much

3299
02:23:31,605 --> 02:23:33,605
for identifying that.

3300
02:23:36,544 --> 02:23:38,112
A couple of things [Lapse in

3301
02:23:38,112 --> 02:23:40,112
audio].

3302
02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:42,717
Number one, taking a health lens

3303
02:23:42,717 --> 02:23:43,951
approach when we do -- I think

3304
02:23:43,951 --> 02:23:44,451
that's really what you're

3305
02:23:44,451 --> 02:23:46,451
getting at.

3306
02:23:46,887 --> 02:23:47,521
So I'm going to pose a couple of

3307
02:23:47,521 --> 02:23:49,289
things.

3308
02:23:49,289 --> 02:23:52,920
In health justice, we talk about

3309
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:53,427
healthy food being available.

3310
02:23:53,427 --> 02:23:55,863
I'd like to explore the

3311
02:23:55,863 --> 02:23:57,531
possibility of using our

3312
02:23:57,531 --> 02:23:59,531
economic development incentives

3313
02:23:59,834 --> 02:24:02,234
in the retail area.

3314
02:24:02,469 --> 02:24:03,237
Until now it has been [Lapse in

3315
02:24:03,237 --> 02:24:04,538
audio] To that.

3316
02:24:04,538 --> 02:24:06,107
There are many districts,

3317
02:24:06,107 --> 02:24:07,208
certainly in mine, and many

3318
02:24:07,208 --> 02:24:08,575
people in my district that have

3319
02:24:08,575 --> 02:24:10,544
to leave the district, not just

3320
02:24:10,544 --> 02:24:12,981
for food, but for other types of

3321
02:24:12,981 --> 02:24:14,981
shopping as well.

3322
02:24:16,284 --> 02:24:17,986
And I think [Lapse in audio]

3323
02:24:17,986 --> 02:24:18,586
That's a quality of life issue

3324
02:24:18,586 --> 02:24:20,586
and health issue.

3325
02:24:20,721 --> 02:24:22,323
In terms of health access as

3326
02:24:22,323 --> 02:24:24,358
well, I know COUNCILWOMAN

3327
02:24:24,358 --> 02:24:25,527
Gonzales brought this up, how do

3328
02:24:25,527 --> 02:24:27,527
we incentivize healthcare

3329
02:24:27,561 --> 02:24:27,795
providers to open up in other

3330
02:24:27,795 --> 02:24:29,364
areas.

3331
02:24:29,364 --> 02:24:30,698
You have success in district 4.

3332
02:24:30,698 --> 02:24:33,660
I think we need to continue

3333
02:24:33,660 --> 02:24:33,600
going on that path by looking at

3334
02:24:33,600 --> 02:24:35,600
our economic development

3335
02:24:35,870 --> 02:24:37,871
guidelines in that way.

3336
02:24:37,871 --> 02:24:40,700
The medical/legal partnership,

3337
02:24:40,700 --> 02:24:42,477
that would be a great addition

3338
02:24:42,477 --> 02:24:44,612
to our housing program.

3339
02:24:44,612 --> 02:24:47,482
So whether or not someone has a

3340
02:24:47,482 --> 02:24:50,482
doctor's notice, they MAY still

3341
02:24:51,519 --> 02:24:52,786
have mold in their home, and

3342
02:24:52,786 --> 02:24:55,456
aligning them with resources I

3343
02:24:55,456 --> 02:24:57,580
think would be very helpful.

3344
02:24:57,580 --> 02:24:59,561
Two more points I want to make.

3345
02:24:59,561 --> 02:24:59,893
I brought this up at our last

3346
02:24:59,893 --> 02:25:01,893
conversation.

3347
02:25:02,663 --> 02:25:04,899
I would like for us to also

3348
02:25:04,899 --> 02:25:06,899
explore environmental exposures

3349
02:25:07,635 --> 02:25:10,350
somewhere in this strategic

3350
02:25:11,339 --> 02:25:11,572
plan, as well as climate health

3351
02:25:11,572 --> 02:25:13,508
impact.

3352
02:25:13,508 --> 02:25:15,343
So for instance, heat, hotter

3353
02:25:15,343 --> 02:25:17,344
days, and how does that impact

3354
02:25:17,344 --> 02:25:18,313
our workers and how do we make

3355
02:25:18,313 --> 02:25:20,713
sure they are protected.

3356
02:25:20,982 --> 02:25:21,816
In terms of environmental

3357
02:25:21,816 --> 02:25:23,984
exposures, I had someone reach

3358
02:25:23,984 --> 02:25:25,153
out to me about a gas station

3359
02:25:25,153 --> 02:25:26,921
going up nearby.

3360
02:25:26,921 --> 02:25:29,190
We can't regulate that, that is

3361
02:25:29,190 --> 02:25:30,825
fully in the hands of tcq.

3362
02:25:30,825 --> 02:25:32,893
But we can provide guidance

3363
02:25:32,893 --> 02:25:36,998
about what are the best types of

3364
02:25:36,998 --> 02:25:38,199
land uses around residences, and

3365
02:25:38,199 --> 02:25:38,866
around day care centers or

3366
02:25:38,866 --> 02:25:40,670
schools.

3367
02:25:40,670 --> 02:25:40,835
There are some best practices

3368
02:25:40,835 --> 02:25:42,269
out there.

3369
02:25:42,269 --> 02:25:43,170
And I'd love the opportunity to

3370
02:25:43,170 --> 02:25:45,506
explore that with our health

3371
02:25:45,506 --> 02:25:47,442
department.

3372
02:25:47,442 --> 02:25:50,144
And lastly, colleagues, I want

3373
02:25:50,144 --> 02:25:53,348
to point out that we are aiming

3374
02:25:53,348 --> 02:25:56,948
for, based on this budget, we

3375
02:25:57,652 --> 02:25:59,520
are aiming for a $17 million

3376
02:25:59,520 --> 02:26:00,421
investment by the time we get to

3377
02:26:00,421 --> 02:26:02,421
year five.

3378
02:26:03,591 --> 02:26:04,392
I'd like to see it aim for a $20

3379
02:26:04,392 --> 02:26:05,793
million investment.

3380
02:26:05,793 --> 02:26:08,997
This is not even half of the

3381
02:26:08,997 --> 02:26:09,263
budget of the health department.

3382
02:26:09,263 --> 02:26:11,263
Right?

3383
02:26:14,335 --> 02:26:16,537
[Lapse in audio] I will continue

3384
02:26:16,537 --> 02:26:18,206
to say that in order to drive

3385
02:26:18,206 --> 02:26:20,608
the best outcomes locally, we

3386
02:26:20,608 --> 02:26:21,309
need to invest our local dollars

3387
02:26:21,309 --> 02:26:23,309
in health.

3388
02:26:23,445 --> 02:26:24,545
Thank you, mayor.

3389
02:26:24,545 --> 02:26:26,347
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

3390
02:26:26,347 --> 02:26:28,347
councilmember sandoval.

3391
02:26:28,549 --> 02:26:30,549
Councilmember bravo.

3392
02:26:35,924 --> 02:26:37,525
>> thank you, DR. Bridger.

3393
02:26:37,525 --> 02:26:39,527
When it comes to saving people

3394
02:26:39,527 --> 02:26:41,196
on tax dollars, it's not just

3395
02:26:41,196 --> 02:26:42,463
about looking at where your

3396
02:26:42,463 --> 02:26:43,298
property taxes are and the

3397
02:26:43,298 --> 02:26:44,900
breaks are.

3398
02:26:44,900 --> 02:26:46,701
It's also looking how you're

3399
02:26:46,701 --> 02:26:49,303
investing in ways that can save

3400
02:26:49,303 --> 02:26:51,506
tax dollars in the future.

3401
02:26:51,506 --> 02:26:54,750
and can you tell us,

3402
02:26:54,750 --> 02:26:54,709
DR. Bridger, how much -- or how

3403
02:26:54,709 --> 02:26:56,377
the city of san antonio

3404
02:26:56,377 --> 02:26:57,612
investment in metro health

3405
02:26:57,612 --> 02:26:59,681
compares to other major cities

3406
02:26:59,681 --> 02:27:02,810
across the united states?

3407
02:27:02,250 --> 02:27:04,652
>> so, the last time I looked at

3408
02:27:04,652 --> 02:27:06,621
this is when I was still the

3409
02:27:06,621 --> 02:27:07,388
health director, and that was

3410
02:27:07,388 --> 02:27:09,388
two-plus years ago.

3411
02:27:10,825 --> 02:27:12,861
But when I compared our per

3412
02:27:12,861 --> 02:27:15,261
capita investment of general

3413
02:27:15,496 --> 02:27:16,970
fund dollars to other big

3414
02:27:16,970 --> 02:27:18,866
cities, we were in the bottom

3415
02:27:18,866 --> 02:27:20,102
five.

3416
02:27:20,102 --> 02:27:21,536
>> bottom five in the nation?

3417
02:27:21,536 --> 02:27:23,536
>> yes.

3418
02:27:24,306 --> 02:27:26,842
>> and then if we invest more in

3419
02:27:26,842 --> 02:27:28,409
metro health, we can improve

3420
02:27:28,409 --> 02:27:31,409
public health outcomes, and then

3421
02:27:31,512 --> 02:27:33,515
that could reduce the number of

3422
02:27:33,515 --> 02:27:34,983
ambulance rides, to emergency

3423
02:27:34,983 --> 02:27:35,584
room, and emergency room visits,

3424
02:27:35,584 --> 02:27:37,584
is that right?

3425
02:27:42,290 --> 02:27:45,126
>> that's one of the goals that

3426
02:27:45,126 --> 02:27:47,662
we strive for, yes, we intervene

3427
02:27:47,662 --> 02:27:47,929
early and prevent more costly

3428
02:27:47,929 --> 02:27:49,929
outcomes.

3429
02:27:51,165 --> 02:27:54,165
>> that could reduce the costly

3430
02:27:55,671 --> 02:27:57,739
outcomes that our residents are

3431
02:27:57,739 --> 02:27:57,906
paying for the hospital district

3432
02:27:57,906 --> 02:27:58,240
tax?

3433
02:27:58,240 --> 02:28:00,240
Is that right?

3434
02:28:02,511 --> 02:28:04,279
>> yes.

3435
02:28:04,279 --> 02:28:04,913
>> how much does the county

3436
02:28:04,913 --> 02:28:07,913
contribute to the metro health

3437
02:28:07,983 --> 02:28:09,983
department?

3438
02:28:11,686 --> 02:28:14,860
>> so, the county through

3439
02:28:14,389 --> 02:28:16,789
university health contributes to

3440
02:28:17,526 --> 02:28:17,726
metro health $190 million a

3441
02:28:17,726 --> 02:28:19,628
year.

3442
02:28:19,628 --> 02:28:19,827
>> what are we contributing a

3443
02:28:19,827 --> 02:28:21,362
year?

3444
02:28:21,362 --> 02:28:23,362
The city?

3445
02:28:26,435 --> 02:28:26,612
>> it's about $14 million right

3446
02:28:26,612 --> 02:28:28,612
now.

3447
02:28:30,705 --> 02:28:32,705
>> okay.

3448
02:28:33,608 --> 02:28:35,977
So I'm looking at -- I heard

3449
02:28:35,977 --> 02:28:38,377
COUNCILWOMAN Sandoval say we

3450
02:28:39,114 --> 02:28:40,815
should invest on the 20 million,

3451
02:28:40,815 --> 02:28:43,819
i think [Lapse in audio] I think

3452
02:28:43,819 --> 02:28:45,720
that's going to improve quality

3453
02:28:45,720 --> 02:28:46,855
of life for residents, but also

3454
02:28:46,855 --> 02:28:48,256
I think it's a good investment

3455
02:28:48,256 --> 02:28:50,158
of our tax dollars and it's

3456
02:28:50,158 --> 02:28:52,127
going to save in the long run.

3457
02:28:52,127 --> 02:28:52,527
And I think it's a really good

3458
02:28:52,527 --> 02:28:54,527
investment.

3459
02:28:55,363 --> 02:28:56,631
I love this idea of restorative

3460
02:28:56,631 --> 02:28:58,631
justice.

3461
02:28:59,768 --> 02:29:03,368
I saw that you were proposing

3462
02:29:04,390 --> 02:29:04,639
possibly working with five

3463
02:29:04,639 --> 02:29:05,140
schools.

3464
02:29:05,140 --> 02:29:06,241
[Lapse in audio].

3465
02:29:06,241 --> 02:29:06,508
And it shouldn't just be

3466
02:29:06,508 --> 02:29:08,508
schools.

3467
02:29:13,215 --> 02:29:14,516
We could look at all kinds of

3468
02:29:14,516 --> 02:29:16,184
partners [Lapse in audio]

3469
02:29:16,184 --> 02:29:18,787
Organizations, we can look at

3470
02:29:18,787 --> 02:29:19,621
groups like the martinez women's

3471
02:29:19,621 --> 02:29:21,550
center.

3472
02:29:21,550 --> 02:29:23,391
My understanding from talking to

3473
02:29:23,391 --> 02:29:26,661
an expert on this subject is

3474
02:29:26,661 --> 02:29:28,797
that key to this program of

3475
02:29:28,797 --> 02:29:30,199
restorative justice to being

3476
02:29:30,199 --> 02:29:30,399
successful is who you partner

3477
02:29:30,399 --> 02:29:32,399
with.

3478
02:29:33,535 --> 02:29:33,769
I think we can go beyond

3479
02:29:33,769 --> 02:29:35,769
schools.

3480
02:29:36,171 --> 02:29:38,240
And so I'm very supportive of

3481
02:29:38,240 --> 02:29:40,609
it, and I think we should do a

3482
02:29:40,609 --> 02:29:41,877
lot more or restorative justice.

3483
02:29:41,877 --> 02:29:43,512
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

3484
02:29:43,512 --> 02:29:44,120
councilmember bravo.

3485
02:29:44,120 --> 02:29:45,915
Councilmember courage.

3486
02:29:45,915 --> 02:29:47,216
>> Courage: thank you, mayor.

3487
02:29:47,216 --> 02:29:49,616
Thank you, DR. Bridger.

3488
02:29:49,651 --> 02:29:52,888
I think this is a very in-depth

3489
02:29:52,888 --> 02:29:53,121
and extensive plan moving

3490
02:29:53,121 --> 02:29:54,790
forward.

3491
02:29:54,790 --> 02:29:58,227
And I think there's a lot of

3492
02:29:58,227 --> 02:30:00,627
great initiatives in here.

3493
02:30:01,363 --> 02:30:03,980
I probably wouldn't think any of

3494
02:30:03,980 --> 02:30:05,498
them weren't very worthy.

3495
02:30:06,468 --> 02:30:08,300
But I think from what I see,

3496
02:30:08,300 --> 02:30:10,380
there were about 21 of them,

3497
02:30:10,380 --> 02:30:11,940
with a few subs that go along

3498
02:30:11,940 --> 02:30:13,940
with them.

3499
02:30:14,676 --> 02:30:17,980
And they're all funded in the

3500
02:30:17,980 --> 02:30:20,148
first two years from grants.

3501
02:30:20,148 --> 02:30:22,840
and the health implementation

3502
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:22,317
plan which is, what is that

3503
02:30:22,317 --> 02:30:24,317
source?

3504
02:30:25,220 --> 02:30:27,620
>> that was city dollars

3505
02:30:28,257 --> 02:30:28,524
allocated to the pandemic

3506
02:30:28,524 --> 02:30:30,524
response.

3507
02:30:31,526 --> 02:30:33,262
We've since received grant

3508
02:30:33,262 --> 02:30:34,729
dollars so we've been able to

3509
02:30:34,729 --> 02:30:35,531
invest them in the plan.

3510
02:30:35,531 --> 02:30:37,132
>> Courage: I see.

3511
02:30:37,132 --> 02:30:38,233
And those will be carried

3512
02:30:38,233 --> 02:30:39,868
through, those kinds of dollars

3513
02:30:39,868 --> 02:30:43,205
for five years, is that right?

3514
02:30:43,205 --> 02:30:46,805
>> so, the first three years has

3515
02:30:46,842 --> 02:30:49,770
that mix of funding, years four

3516
02:30:49,770 --> 02:30:49,512
and five are exclusively general

3517
02:30:49,512 --> 02:30:51,912
fund at this point.

3518
02:30:55,417 --> 02:30:57,219
>> Courage: okay.

3519
02:30:57,219 --> 02:30:58,553
How many -- this looks like a

3520
02:30:58,553 --> 02:31:01,924
lot to undertake and we're going

3521
02:31:01,924 --> 02:31:04,920
to do it all, you know, starting

3522
02:31:04,920 --> 02:31:06,492
this next fiscal year.

3523
02:31:06,562 --> 02:31:07,829
How many staff are you going to

3524
02:31:07,829 --> 02:31:10,320
need, additional staff to

3525
02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:11,533
implement all these?

3526
02:31:11,533 --> 02:31:11,733
>> it's about 75 additional

3527
02:31:11,733 --> 02:31:12,501
staff.

3528
02:31:12,501 --> 02:31:13,969
>> Courage: okay.

3529
02:31:13,969 --> 02:31:15,404
>> and the total staff we have

3530
02:31:15,404 --> 02:31:16,705
at the health department right

3531
02:31:16,705 --> 02:31:18,705
now is about 400.

3532
02:31:18,974 --> 02:31:20,742
If you take all the covid out of

3533
02:31:20,742 --> 02:31:22,178
it, we have about 400 employees

3534
02:31:22,178 --> 02:31:23,120
at the health department.

3535
02:31:23,120 --> 02:31:24,312
>> Courage: okay.

3536
02:31:24,312 --> 02:31:25,448
So 75 additional would be

3537
02:31:25,448 --> 02:31:26,649
focused on this.

3538
02:31:26,649 --> 02:31:27,783
And those are all included in

3539
02:31:27,783 --> 02:31:30,783
the money up here, right?

3540
02:31:31,386 --> 02:31:32,320
>> yes, sir.

3541
02:31:32,320 --> 02:31:33,589
>> Courage: so [Lapse in audio].

3542
02:31:33,589 --> 02:31:34,957
>> no, sir.

3543
02:31:34,957 --> 02:31:36,258
>> Courage: you have a lot of

3544
02:31:36,258 --> 02:31:39,258
other, or the health department

3545
02:31:41,163 --> 02:31:41,597
has a lot of other broad

3546
02:31:41,597 --> 02:31:43,597
responsibilities.

3547
02:31:43,899 --> 02:31:44,700
What is -- you know, what are

3548
02:31:44,700 --> 02:31:46,903
the other broad responsibilities

3549
02:31:46,903 --> 02:31:49,903
of the health department, that

3550
02:31:51,640 --> 02:31:54,400
they prioritize every day?

3551
02:31:54,430 --> 02:31:55,100
>> if you think about the three

3552
02:31:55,100 --> 02:31:57,410
divisions that the health

3553
02:31:58,481 --> 02:31:59,514
department has, one is community

3554
02:31:59,514 --> 02:32:02,514
health, and community health is

3555
02:32:02,685 --> 02:32:02,918
where the bulk of this work will

3556
02:32:02,918 --> 02:32:04,918
fall.

3557
02:32:05,988 --> 02:32:08,424
But we also have environmental

3558
02:32:08,424 --> 02:32:09,858
health and operations.

3559
02:32:09,858 --> 02:32:11,590
And so that's where the

3560
02:32:11,590 --> 02:32:12,628
restaurant inspections happen,

3561
02:32:12,628 --> 02:32:13,963
for example.

3562
02:32:13,963 --> 02:32:15,498
The air quality monitoring

3563
02:32:15,498 --> 02:32:16,832
happens, for example.

3564
02:32:16,832 --> 02:32:17,500
Those are all very important

3565
02:32:17,500 --> 02:32:19,500
activities for us.

3566
02:32:24,106 --> 02:32:26,475
And then we have our

3567
02:32:26,475 --> 02:32:28,475
communicable disease division.

3568
02:32:29,244 --> 02:32:32,244
They were already busy following

3569
02:32:32,949 --> 02:32:33,849
up on every single reportable

3570
02:32:33,849 --> 02:32:34,830
communicable disease in the

3571
02:32:34,830 --> 02:32:35,350
county.

3572
02:32:35,350 --> 02:32:35,985
We are a district, so we serve

3573
02:32:35,985 --> 02:32:38,387
the entire county, not just the

3574
02:32:38,387 --> 02:32:40,387
city.

3575
02:32:41,891 --> 02:32:44,860
And so there are a lot of

3576
02:32:44,860 --> 02:32:47,860
activities, all of our clinics

3577
02:32:49,465 --> 02:32:51,633
fall under communicable disease,

3578
02:32:51,633 --> 02:32:54,330
std clinic, hiv clinic.

3579
02:32:54,904 --> 02:32:55,710
So that's a big ask of what we

3580
02:32:55,710 --> 02:32:56,372
do.

3581
02:32:56,372 --> 02:32:57,606
>> Courage: how much does the

3582
02:32:57,606 --> 02:32:58,307
budget, normally, not including

3583
02:32:58,307 --> 02:32:59,975
these projects?

3584
02:32:59,975 --> 02:33:00,977
>> about $44 million.

3585
02:33:00,977 --> 02:33:02,977
>> Courage: okay.

3586
02:33:03,212 --> 02:33:04,480
I guess what I'd like to see,

3587
02:33:04,480 --> 02:33:07,449
and I think that's something we

3588
02:33:07,449 --> 02:33:10,886
need to look at through the city

3589
02:33:10,886 --> 02:33:13,286
manager's office, is the

3590
02:33:13,856 --> 02:33:16,526
expenditures of the fund I've

3591
02:33:16,526 --> 02:33:18,194
heard we have five years to

3592
02:33:18,194 --> 02:33:20,194
expend that money.

3593
02:33:20,897 --> 02:33:24,467
I'd certainly like to see us at

3594
02:33:24,467 --> 02:33:25,568
using some arpa money rather

3595
02:33:25,568 --> 02:33:28,304
than general fund money, at

3596
02:33:28,304 --> 02:33:31,304
least in part of these.

3597
02:33:31,540 --> 02:33:34,243
Is taking $17 million out of our

3598
02:33:34,243 --> 02:33:36,579
general fund a big hit, any

3599
02:33:36,579 --> 02:33:39,810
year, but if we could designate

3600
02:33:39,810 --> 02:33:42,681
some arpa money for years three,

3601
02:33:43,652 --> 02:33:45,955
four and five, maybe 16,000, we

3602
02:33:45,955 --> 02:33:48,955
take 4 or 5 this year, 4 or 5

3603
02:33:49,250 --> 02:33:52,161
the next year, make it a more

3604
02:33:52,161 --> 02:33:54,530
gradual hit to the general fund

3605
02:33:54,530 --> 02:33:54,764
I think should be something we

3606
02:33:54,764 --> 02:33:56,432
explore.

3607
02:33:56,432 --> 02:33:57,800
I think how we fund that, we

3608
02:33:57,800 --> 02:33:59,869
want to make sure that we don't

3609
02:33:59,869 --> 02:34:00,836
just take it out of the general

3610
02:34:00,836 --> 02:34:05,636
fund, if we can work some of it

3611
02:34:07,877 --> 02:34:10,877
out of the arpa money.

3612
02:34:13,583 --> 02:34:13,883
>> we've talked about that

3613
02:34:13,883 --> 02:34:15,883
internally.

3614
02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:19,656
And that's probably one of the

3615
02:34:19,656 --> 02:34:21,324
things we shared with you as we

3616
02:34:21,324 --> 02:34:23,724
talk about phase 2 arpa.

3617
02:34:24,894 --> 02:34:26,763
We do as best as possible smooth

3618
02:34:26,763 --> 02:34:28,763
out peaks.

3619
02:34:29,232 --> 02:34:30,167
And colleen mentioned it in her

3620
02:34:30,167 --> 02:34:32,567
presentation, you remember, in

3621
02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:36,636
past years when we've gotten a

3622
02:34:38,274 --> 02:34:39,809
big [Lapse in audio] Who helped

3623
02:34:39,809 --> 02:34:41,177
fund police officers, we set

3624
02:34:41,177 --> 02:34:42,979
aside a little bit of money

3625
02:34:42,979 --> 02:34:43,179
every year so we can smooth that

3626
02:34:43,179 --> 02:34:44,947
peak.

3627
02:34:44,947 --> 02:34:46,349
And what you're describing is

3628
02:34:46,349 --> 02:34:49,349
using arpa to do that.

3629
02:34:49,519 --> 02:34:51,621
That's a great idea.

3630
02:34:51,621 --> 02:34:54,210
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

3631
02:34:54,457 --> 02:34:55,992
councilmember courage.

3632
02:34:55,992 --> 02:34:57,992
Councilmember castillo.

3633
02:34:59,620 --> 02:35:01,462
>> the presentation, I'm excited

3634
02:35:03,650 --> 02:35:03,667
to see metro health is going to

3635
02:35:03,667 --> 02:35:06,667
be partnering with scic, and

3636
02:35:06,669 --> 02:35:08,669
more schools.

3637
02:35:11,441 --> 02:35:12,876
[Lapse in audio] I wanted to

3638
02:35:12,876 --> 02:35:14,411
highlight this graphic you have

3639
02:35:14,411 --> 02:35:16,411
on this page.

3640
02:35:16,580 --> 02:35:18,980
There's the affordable housing,

3641
02:35:22,619 --> 02:35:25,221
access to safe and healthy local

3642
02:35:25,221 --> 02:35:27,621
food [Lapse in audio].

3643
02:35:28,910 --> 02:35:32,291
If we fail to invest in these

3644
02:35:34,130 --> 02:35:34,765
very roots, you know, we're

3645
02:35:34,765 --> 02:35:37,567
[Lapse in audio] Branches that

3646
02:35:37,567 --> 02:35:38,435
continue to grow [Lapse in

3647
02:35:38,435 --> 02:35:40,503
audio] Folks of crime.

3648
02:35:40,503 --> 02:35:42,472
And we need to focus on the

3649
02:35:42,472 --> 02:35:44,507
groups that are focused in this

3650
02:35:44,507 --> 02:35:46,507
photo, quality education.

3651
02:35:48,845 --> 02:35:51,447
but just wanted to highlight

3652
02:35:51,447 --> 02:35:52,483
that.

3653
02:35:52,483 --> 02:35:53,850
Partnering with the ISDs, and

3654
02:35:53,850 --> 02:35:54,751
the number of schools we're

3655
02:35:54,751 --> 02:35:56,253
partnering with.

3656
02:35:56,253 --> 02:35:57,654
In district 5 we have four

3657
02:35:57,654 --> 02:35:59,654
school districts.

3658
02:36:00,624 --> 02:36:03,627
That would be -- if we had one

3659
02:36:03,627 --> 02:36:04,261
officer, one program in each

3660
02:36:04,261 --> 02:36:06,661
school district, [Lapse in

3661
02:36:09,466 --> 02:36:09,732
audio].

3662
02:36:09,732 --> 02:36:11,732
Thank you.

3663
02:36:13,690 --> 02:36:16,690
Oh, I had a question.

3664
02:36:16,239 --> 02:36:18,639
What is metro health's

3665
02:36:18,675 --> 02:36:20,744
relationship with the mental

3666
02:36:20,744 --> 02:36:21,144
health unit?

3667
02:36:21,144 --> 02:36:23,144
(Indiscernible).

3668
02:36:24,848 --> 02:36:27,848
>> in last year's budget, we

3669
02:36:28,518 --> 02:36:30,754
moved the civilian staff who

3670
02:36:30,754 --> 02:36:31,488
responded to domestic violence

3671
02:36:31,488 --> 02:36:32,122
from the police department to

3672
02:36:32,122 --> 02:36:33,790
the health department.

3673
02:36:33,790 --> 02:36:35,225
Before that, you know, we had a

3674
02:36:35,225 --> 02:36:37,625
very good working relationship.

3675
02:36:37,728 --> 02:36:39,362
Now we have an integrated

3676
02:36:39,362 --> 02:36:41,362
working relationship.

3677
02:36:42,265 --> 02:36:43,834
And so I can't think of a

3678
02:36:43,834 --> 02:36:46,270
department that we work more

3679
02:36:46,270 --> 02:36:47,637
closely with than the police

3680
02:36:47,637 --> 02:36:49,637
department.

3681
02:36:49,673 --> 02:36:51,410
They're critical partners in

3682
02:36:51,410 --> 02:36:53,410
domestic violence, mental

3683
02:36:53,210 --> 02:36:53,977
health, so yes, very strong

3684
02:36:53,977 --> 02:36:55,450
relationship there.

3685
02:36:55,450 --> 02:36:55,945
>> thank you.

3686
02:36:55,945 --> 02:36:58,345
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

3687
02:36:58,649 --> 02:36:59,649
councilmember castillo.

3688
02:36:59,649 --> 02:37:00,584
Councilmember rocha garcia.

3689
02:37:00,584 --> 02:37:00,817
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you,

3690
02:37:00,817 --> 02:37:02,817
mayor.

3691
02:37:03,887 --> 02:37:04,955
I'm excited about the chief

3692
02:37:04,955 --> 02:37:06,955
health officer position.

3693
02:37:08,425 --> 02:37:09,225
Thank you also for the

3694
02:37:09,225 --> 02:37:10,661
restorative justice programs

3695
02:37:10,661 --> 02:37:12,529
that you're seeking.

3696
02:37:12,529 --> 02:37:14,164
And I'm really happy about that.

3697
02:37:14,164 --> 02:37:17,164
I've talked about that before.

3698
02:37:17,868 --> 02:37:21,205
And I do believe they work.

3699
02:37:21,205 --> 02:37:23,807
The office of health equity

3700
02:37:23,807 --> 02:37:25,442
expansion, I'm going to be

3701
02:37:25,442 --> 02:37:26,843
honest, I might have missed that

3702
02:37:26,843 --> 02:37:28,712
memo, I didn't even know we had

3703
02:37:28,712 --> 02:37:31,648
an office at health equity.

3704
02:37:31,648 --> 02:37:31,849
So my apologies to you and your

3705
02:37:31,849 --> 02:37:32,716
team.

3706
02:37:32,716 --> 02:37:34,284
How many people are there and

3707
02:37:34,284 --> 02:37:35,719
what is the goal?

3708
02:37:35,719 --> 02:37:37,821
>> there are [Lapse in audio]

3709
02:37:37,821 --> 02:37:39,690
Employees now, and one of those

3710
02:37:39,690 --> 02:37:41,424
is partially covid funded.

3711
02:37:41,424 --> 02:37:43,394
And it's to grow up to five.

3712
02:37:43,394 --> 02:37:46,262
And again, the approach that

3713
02:37:46,262 --> 02:37:46,863
we've taken with the office of

3714
02:37:46,863 --> 02:37:48,866
health equity is kind of the

3715
02:37:48,866 --> 02:37:51,235
same approach we took with

3716
02:37:51,235 --> 02:37:53,235
quality improvement.

3717
02:37:53,804 --> 02:37:55,239
It isn't about the office, it's

3718
02:37:55,239 --> 02:37:56,239
about infusing the work into

3719
02:37:56,239 --> 02:37:58,639
everything that we do.

3720
02:37:58,675 --> 02:38:02,379
So we do a lot of train the

3721
02:38:02,379 --> 02:38:05,248
trainer, we do a lot of kind of

3722
02:38:05,248 --> 02:38:07,318
cultural changes to make sure

3723
02:38:07,318 --> 02:38:10,318
everything we do reflects that

3724
02:38:10,721 --> 02:38:11,688
continuous focus on health

3725
02:38:11,688 --> 02:38:12,789
equity.

3726
02:38:12,789 --> 02:38:15,189
>> Rocha Garcia: are you

3727
02:38:16,494 --> 02:38:18,962
planning to have like someone

3728
02:38:18,962 --> 02:38:19,363
focused on the east side or west

3729
02:38:19,363 --> 02:38:19,997
side?

3730
02:38:19,997 --> 02:38:21,264
Is there best practices?

3731
02:38:21,264 --> 02:38:23,867
>> I don't know that we've

3732
02:38:23,867 --> 02:38:24,168
gotten that far in the

3733
02:38:24,168 --> 02:38:25,702
development.

3734
02:38:25,702 --> 02:38:26,200
But that's a really good

3735
02:38:26,200 --> 02:38:27,637
suggestion.

3736
02:38:27,637 --> 02:38:28,805
I'll take that back to the team.

3737
02:38:28,805 --> 02:38:30,241
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you.

3738
02:38:30,241 --> 02:38:33,241
And finally, spinning off of

3739
02:38:33,544 --> 02:38:34,879
that, mayor, I would probably

3740
02:38:34,879 --> 02:38:37,715
advocate that we create within

3741
02:38:37,715 --> 02:38:40,715
our departments an office of

3742
02:38:40,951 --> 02:38:42,553
equity, or have like an equity

3743
02:38:42,553 --> 02:38:42,853
representative in every city

3744
02:38:42,853 --> 02:38:44,853
department.

3745
02:38:44,955 --> 02:38:47,124
I think that's the only way

3746
02:38:47,124 --> 02:38:49,660
we're truly going to get experts

3747
02:38:49,660 --> 02:38:49,893
within fields to consider

3748
02:38:49,893 --> 02:38:51,628
equity.

3749
02:38:51,628 --> 02:38:52,129
And I know that's probably a big

3750
02:38:52,129 --> 02:38:54,129
budget ask.

3751
02:38:54,131 --> 02:38:57,200
but if we're looking at train

3752
02:38:57,200 --> 02:38:58,769
the trainer type of stuff, and

3753
02:38:58,769 --> 02:38:59,700
get into every part of the

3754
02:38:59,700 --> 02:38:59,437
department.

3755
02:38:59,437 --> 02:39:00,304
That's it.

3756
02:39:00,304 --> 02:39:02,304
Thank you.

3757
02:39:02,506 --> 02:39:03,707
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

3758
02:39:03,707 --> 02:39:04,641
councilmember rocha garcia.

3759
02:39:04,641 --> 02:39:07,641
And [Lapse in audio] Training

3760
02:39:11,282 --> 02:39:11,416
going on in the departments.

3761
02:39:11,416 --> 02:39:12,490
>>

3762
02:39:12,490 --> 02:39:12,650
[Overlapping speakers].

3763
02:39:12,650 --> 02:39:12,916
>> Mayor Nirenberg: in the

3764
02:39:12,916 --> 02:39:14,916
afternoon.

3765
02:39:15,319 --> 02:39:16,187
I don't want to take too much of

3766
02:39:16,187 --> 02:39:18,187
our time here.

3767
02:39:21,125 --> 02:39:22,593
>> I think the -- not that I

3768
02:39:22,593 --> 02:39:24,593
think.

3769
02:39:26,300 --> 02:39:27,565
The health equity division in

3770
02:39:27,565 --> 02:39:29,965
the health department, first

3771
02:39:30,668 --> 02:39:31,669
equity effort that the city ever

3772
02:39:31,669 --> 02:39:33,437
took, it happened before --

3773
02:39:33,437 --> 02:39:34,738
about two years before we

3774
02:39:34,738 --> 02:39:37,738
created the office of equity.

3775
02:39:37,808 --> 02:39:39,277
So it is the initial place where

3776
02:39:39,277 --> 02:39:40,978
the organization started.

3777
02:39:40,978 --> 02:39:43,314
We can give you an update

3778
02:39:43,314 --> 02:39:47,180
broadly at the end of the day.

3779
02:39:47,180 --> 02:39:47,418
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

3780
02:39:47,418 --> 02:39:48,486
rocha garcia.

3781
02:39:48,486 --> 02:39:50,486
>> thank you, mayor.

3782
02:39:53,524 --> 02:39:55,924
The behavioral therapy for

3783
02:39:56,361 --> 02:39:56,928
survival to violence, I applaud

3784
02:39:56,928 --> 02:39:58,829
that and would like to see

3785
02:39:58,829 --> 02:39:59,960
expansion of access to sa

3786
02:39:59,960 --> 02:40:01,960
students.

3787
02:40:03,434 --> 02:40:05,536
But I think this is something

3788
02:40:05,536 --> 02:40:06,704
that MISS Castillo was talking

3789
02:40:06,704 --> 02:40:08,704
about as well.

3790
02:40:08,739 --> 02:40:11,142
Is there plans to expand to

3791
02:40:11,142 --> 02:40:12,109
other school districts?

3792
02:40:12,109 --> 02:40:13,878
>> yes.

3793
02:40:13,878 --> 02:40:15,313
It will probably be through our

3794
02:40:15,313 --> 02:40:15,947
partners rather than through the

3795
02:40:15,947 --> 02:40:17,947
health department.

3796
02:40:19,583 --> 02:40:20,318
There are a number of

3797
02:40:20,318 --> 02:40:21,852
school-based mental health

3798
02:40:21,852 --> 02:40:24,252
partnerships that are formed,

3799
02:40:24,722 --> 02:40:27,224
and if we can show that this is

3800
02:40:27,224 --> 02:40:28,692
an effective way to help

3801
02:40:28,692 --> 02:40:31,620
students process trauma, then

3802
02:40:31,620 --> 02:40:32,430
that can be expanded across all

3803
02:40:32,430 --> 02:40:35,366
of the providers who are in all

3804
02:40:35,366 --> 02:40:35,599
of the ISDs.

3805
02:40:35,599 --> 02:40:37,599
>> okay.

3806
02:40:39,170 --> 02:40:40,504
Like what partners?

3807
02:40:40,504 --> 02:40:42,504
An example?

3808
02:40:43,700 --> 02:40:43,441
>> communities in schools is a

3809
02:40:43,441 --> 02:40:45,109
big partner.

3810
02:40:45,109 --> 02:40:47,509
Family services currently serves

3811
02:40:50,140 --> 02:40:50,915
as a backbone of a wellness

3812
02:40:50,915 --> 02:40:53,785
collaborative that goes into a

3813
02:40:53,785 --> 02:40:53,984
number of ISDs throughout the

3814
02:40:53,984 --> 02:40:55,984
city.

3815
02:40:56,954 --> 02:40:59,391
And they're growing their part

3816
02:40:59,391 --> 02:40:59,724
of this mental wellness

3817
02:40:59,724 --> 02:41:01,724
collaborative.

3818
02:41:02,293 --> 02:41:04,162
There are five or six other

3819
02:41:04,162 --> 02:41:04,528
providers that form part of that

3820
02:41:04,528 --> 02:41:04,829
collaborative.

3821
02:41:04,829 --> 02:41:06,531
>> okay.

3822
02:41:06,531 --> 02:41:07,499
And they could potentially

3823
02:41:07,499 --> 02:41:07,765
expand to the other school

3824
02:41:07,765 --> 02:41:07,999
districts?

3825
02:41:07,999 --> 02:41:09,999
>> yes.

3826
02:41:12,637 --> 02:41:14,637
>> okay.

3827
02:41:15,774 --> 02:41:18,476
The mention of viva health, is

3828
02:41:18,476 --> 02:41:20,845
that -- does that include the

3829
02:41:20,845 --> 02:41:21,512
viva sa healthy corner stores?

3830
02:41:21,512 --> 02:41:24,815
>> in one of these bullets, yes.

3831
02:41:24,815 --> 02:41:25,616
>> okay.

3832
02:41:25,616 --> 02:41:27,352
What do you mean?

3833
02:41:27,352 --> 02:41:27,886
>> I'm not sure if it's in that

3834
02:41:27,886 --> 02:41:29,454
bullet or another bullet.

3835
02:41:29,454 --> 02:41:31,322
>> okay.

3836
02:41:31,322 --> 02:41:31,656
I got it.

3837
02:41:31,656 --> 02:41:33,656
Okay.

3838
02:41:34,892 --> 02:41:35,726
I have an area of my district,

3839
02:41:35,726 --> 02:41:38,726
edgewood, it's a food desert.

3840
02:41:39,264 --> 02:41:41,399
I would love to see a corner

3841
02:41:41,399 --> 02:41:41,666
store in that area of my

3842
02:41:41,666 --> 02:41:42,333
district.

3843
02:41:42,333 --> 02:41:43,200
>> okay.

3844
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:45,200
>> that's all.

3845
02:41:46,905 --> 02:41:49,305
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

3846
02:41:52,310 --> 02:41:54,450
councilmember cabello havrda.

3847
02:41:54,450 --> 02:41:56,648
>> I want to start with slide

3848
02:41:56,648 --> 02:41:56,881
number 4 in terms of the mental

3849
02:41:56,881 --> 02:41:58,716
health.

3850
02:41:58,716 --> 02:42:00,985
I think all of this is good.

3851
02:42:00,985 --> 02:42:03,188
but I would like to see, does it

3852
02:42:03,188 --> 02:42:03,421
have to be a chief mental health

3853
02:42:03,421 --> 02:42:05,421
officer?

3854
02:42:07,526 --> 02:42:09,827
Could it be a liaison?

3855
02:42:09,827 --> 02:42:11,950
Just because kind of like the

3856
02:42:11,950 --> 02:42:12,497
mayor mentioned, I would like to

3857
02:42:12,497 --> 02:42:14,232
see what the county is doing on

3858
02:42:14,232 --> 02:42:17,335
that front and how they can help

3859
02:42:17,335 --> 02:42:19,335
with that coordination.

3860
02:42:20,338 --> 02:42:23,338
The other thing similar to

3861
02:42:24,309 --> 02:42:26,709
COUNCILWOMAN Castillo, is the

3862
02:42:27,945 --> 02:42:28,413
saisd pairing with them on that

3863
02:42:28,413 --> 02:42:30,413
therapy, that's great.

3864
02:42:30,715 --> 02:42:32,550
But if I could get a list of

3865
02:42:32,550 --> 02:42:35,353
those delegate agencies that can

3866
02:42:35,353 --> 02:42:37,956
help, so that when we make

3867
02:42:37,956 --> 02:42:39,457
decisions about [Lapse in audio]

3868
02:42:39,457 --> 02:42:40,580
Delegate agency nonprofit we

3869
02:42:40,580 --> 02:42:42,458
know who's already providing

3870
02:42:44,829 --> 02:42:46,829
services.

3871
02:42:47,432 --> 02:42:49,670
To the city, and MAY need our

3872
02:42:49,670 --> 02:42:51,670
assistance also.

3873
02:42:53,371 --> 02:42:55,274
And then the domestic violence

3874
02:42:55,274 --> 02:42:57,274
prevention wrap-around services,

3875
02:42:59,770 --> 02:42:59,911
that is very important to me.

3876
02:42:59,911 --> 02:43:03,511
I think it's very important that

3877
02:43:03,915 --> 02:43:07,318
we address not just [Lapse in

3878
02:43:07,318 --> 02:43:09,318
audio]

3879
02:43:10,555 --> 02:43:11,690
Audio], and that we start

3880
02:43:11,690 --> 02:43:12,570
talking about the

3881
02:43:12,570 --> 02:43:13,324
microaggressions

3882
02:43:13,324 --> 02:43:15,260
microaggressions, especially in

3883
02:43:15,260 --> 02:43:18,260
younger people, and maybe we

3884
02:43:18,597 --> 02:43:18,931
approach it kind of like faulty

3885
02:43:18,931 --> 02:43:20,931
relationships.

3886
02:43:21,433 --> 02:43:23,350
So I really want to see, if we

3887
02:43:23,350 --> 02:43:25,904
don't do a chief mental health

3888
02:43:25,904 --> 02:43:27,872
officer, maybe we can expand to

3889
02:43:27,872 --> 02:43:29,872
have someone specifically

3890
02:43:30,960 --> 02:43:31,490
focusing on the violence

3891
02:43:31,490 --> 02:43:31,140
prevention part of this.

3892
02:43:31,140 --> 02:43:33,140
>> yeah.

3893
02:43:33,345 --> 02:43:36,648
I do want to point out that last

3894
02:43:36,648 --> 02:43:38,616
year we created an entire unit

3895
02:43:38,616 --> 02:43:39,551
at the health department focused

3896
02:43:39,551 --> 02:43:41,551
on violence prevention.

3897
02:43:42,870 --> 02:43:43,755
So that's where all our domestic

3898
02:43:43,755 --> 02:43:46,658
violence work sits, but it's

3899
02:43:46,658 --> 02:43:48,660
also where our adverse childhood

3900
02:43:48,660 --> 02:43:50,896
experience, our teen dating

3901
02:43:50,896 --> 02:43:53,296
violence rests as well.

3902
02:43:53,332 --> 02:43:54,433
So we'll give you a tour of all

3903
02:43:54,433 --> 02:43:56,367
the work they're doing.

3904
02:43:56,367 --> 02:43:56,802
>> yeah, I'm so excited about

3905
02:43:56,802 --> 02:43:58,670
that.

3906
02:43:58,670 --> 02:44:00,105
And of course, your health

3907
02:44:00,105 --> 02:44:00,339
justice, I love everything

3908
02:44:00,339 --> 02:44:02,339
there.

3909
02:44:02,507 --> 02:44:03,642
Because viva healthy corner

3910
02:44:03,642 --> 02:44:05,477
stores was started in district

3911
02:44:05,477 --> 02:44:07,412
3, and is great in addressing

3912
02:44:07,412 --> 02:44:09,412
the obesity issues.

3913
02:44:10,515 --> 02:44:10,782
And all those living with

3914
02:44:10,782 --> 02:44:12,782
diabetes.

3915
02:44:13,451 --> 02:44:15,787
But my question for the

3916
02:44:15,787 --> 02:44:18,187
organization of the education

3917
02:44:18,457 --> 02:44:19,325
campaign, and the peer-led

3918
02:44:19,325 --> 02:44:19,524
program, how is that going to be

3919
02:44:19,524 --> 02:44:21,524
done?

3920
02:44:22,460 --> 02:44:23,562
Digitally?

3921
02:44:23,562 --> 02:44:25,562
Through the library?

3922
02:44:26,998 --> 02:44:27,633
How is it going to be marked?

3923
02:44:27,633 --> 02:44:29,340
>> so, I'm going to start with

3924
02:44:29,340 --> 02:44:30,802
the diabetes prevention program.

3925
02:44:30,802 --> 02:44:31,670
That's through a partnership

3926
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:33,405
with the [Lapse in audio]

3927
02:44:33,405 --> 02:44:36,405
Existing program that we have

3928
02:44:36,976 --> 02:44:39,976
always wanted to expand, because

3929
02:44:43,615 --> 02:44:45,484
we know that they have a 58%

3930
02:44:45,484 --> 02:44:45,850
reduction in developing

3931
02:44:45,850 --> 02:44:47,850
diabetes.

3932
02:44:47,953 --> 02:44:48,820
We would expand our partnership

3933
02:44:48,820 --> 02:44:50,122
with the y.

3934
02:44:50,122 --> 02:44:52,122
That's a face-to-face.

3935
02:44:54,293 --> 02:44:55,360
We get a lot of referrals from

3936
02:44:55,360 --> 02:44:57,996
the Ys as well, but also from

3937
02:44:57,996 --> 02:44:59,996
the local physicians.

3938
02:45:01,934 --> 02:45:04,334
The targeted nutrition campaign,

3939
02:45:05,971 --> 02:45:08,841
we are going to go to the

3940
02:45:08,841 --> 02:45:10,142
community and say [Lapse in

3941
02:45:10,142 --> 02:45:10,576
audio] Information specific to

3942
02:45:10,576 --> 02:45:11,610
nutrition.

3943
02:45:11,610 --> 02:45:14,480
Because we've kind of always

3944
02:45:14,480 --> 02:45:17,349
taken this approach of, oh,

3945
02:45:17,349 --> 02:45:18,650
here's this healthy plate,

3946
02:45:18,650 --> 02:45:21,650
here's what you should do.

3947
02:45:25,424 --> 02:45:26,240
What we want to do is say, you

3948
02:45:26,240 --> 02:45:26,626
know you eat healthy, what is

3949
02:45:26,626 --> 02:45:28,127
stopping you from doing that,

3950
02:45:28,127 --> 02:45:31,564
how can we help in that area.

3951
02:45:31,564 --> 02:45:32,565
so [Lapse in audio] That's the

3952
02:45:32,565 --> 02:45:34,467
concept behind it.

3953
02:45:34,467 --> 02:45:35,340
>> if you could just keep me

3954
02:45:35,340 --> 02:45:37,340
posted on that.

3955
02:45:38,337 --> 02:45:39,271
And then also in terms of

3956
02:45:39,271 --> 02:45:41,271
justice, specifically for

3957
02:45:42,374 --> 02:45:45,374
district 3, and I know it's

3958
02:45:46,111 --> 02:45:48,511
citywide, is clean air.

3959
02:45:48,881 --> 02:45:52,481
I don't see there's any programs

3960
02:45:53,619 --> 02:45:53,786
dealing with the kind of clean

3961
02:45:53,786 --> 02:45:55,221
air

3962
02:45:55,221 --> 02:45:55,554
air, adults and children living

3963
02:45:55,554 --> 02:45:57,554
with asthma.

3964
02:45:57,857 --> 02:45:58,123
Do we have that kind of on deck

3965
02:45:58,123 --> 02:45:59,658
somewhere?

3966
02:45:59,658 --> 02:46:00,793
>> so that is an existing

3967
02:46:00,793 --> 02:46:01,827
service that the health

3968
02:46:01,827 --> 02:46:02,861
department provides.

3969
02:46:02,861 --> 02:46:04,290
We have the san antonio kids

3970
02:46:04,290 --> 02:46:06,429
breathe program, which was

3971
02:46:06,666 --> 02:46:07,867
started, I believe, two or three

3972
02:46:07,867 --> 02:46:09,668
years ago.

3973
02:46:09,668 --> 02:46:12,680
That works with families,

3974
02:46:12,705 --> 02:46:14,173
children with asthma, to help

3975
02:46:14,173 --> 02:46:17,173
decrease the number of times

3976
02:46:17,543 --> 02:46:17,776
they have to seek care for their

3977
02:46:17,776 --> 02:46:19,776
asthma.

3978
02:46:21,881 --> 02:46:22,982
We also have the air quality

3979
02:46:22,982 --> 02:46:25,451
monitoring program also with the

3980
02:46:25,451 --> 02:46:27,987
health department, where we have

3981
02:46:27,987 --> 02:46:28,821
quality monitors throughout the

3982
02:46:28,821 --> 02:46:30,821
city.

3983
02:46:32,424 --> 02:46:34,927
And we have staff who go out

3984
02:46:34,927 --> 02:46:36,629
every day, and the results of

3985
02:46:36,629 --> 02:46:38,263
those air quality monitors, that

3986
02:46:38,263 --> 02:46:40,663
helps us make decisions.

3987
02:46:42,100 --> 02:46:42,768
>> just because after covid-19

3988
02:46:42,768 --> 02:46:44,300
[Lapse in audio] Possible issues

3989
02:46:44,300 --> 02:46:46,172
that people could have, I think

3990
02:46:46,172 --> 02:46:48,441
we MAY need to set aside funds

3991
02:46:48,441 --> 02:46:49,608
to kind of address -- or

3992
02:46:49,608 --> 02:46:51,777
increase the funds with the

3993
02:46:51,777 --> 02:46:52,245
health department to address

3994
02:46:52,245 --> 02:46:54,245
that.

3995
02:46:54,280 --> 02:46:58,510
And the last point is, when you

3996
02:46:58,510 --> 02:46:59,252
look at agencies, the southern

3997
02:46:59,252 --> 02:47:01,652
sector has two hospitals.

3998
02:47:03,220 --> 02:47:04,423
Very few university hospitals.

3999
02:47:04,423 --> 02:47:05,858
But central med might be

4000
02:47:05,858 --> 02:47:08,293
somebody who could help that

4001
02:47:08,293 --> 02:47:08,861
priority training for

4002
02:47:08,861 --> 02:47:09,896
anti-racist.

4003
02:47:09,896 --> 02:47:11,630
Thank you.

4004
02:47:11,630 --> 02:47:14,300
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

4005
02:47:14,500 --> 02:47:15,100
councilmember viagran.

4006
02:47:15,100 --> 02:47:17,100
Councilmember rodriguez.

4007
02:47:17,937 --> 02:47:20,906
>> I want to start off by saying

4008
02:47:20,906 --> 02:47:22,441
that in the survey, there was a

4009
02:47:22,441 --> 02:47:23,542
question about strategic

4010
02:47:23,542 --> 02:47:25,542
investments, across all

4011
02:47:28,180 --> 02:47:28,714
districts the average was second

4012
02:47:28,714 --> 02:47:29,349
to streets and sidewalks.

4013
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:32,349
People want to see investments

4014
02:47:32,618 --> 02:47:34,618
in public health.

4015
02:47:35,354 --> 02:47:38,791
[Lapse in audio] I would like to

4016
02:47:38,791 --> 02:47:40,393
see increased spending on the

4017
02:47:40,393 --> 02:47:42,393
health justice slide.

4018
02:47:43,696 --> 02:47:45,498
I'm excited about a lot of these

4019
02:47:45,498 --> 02:47:46,899
things.

4020
02:47:46,899 --> 02:47:48,735
[Lapse in audio] Several of our

4021
02:47:48,735 --> 02:47:50,735
districts, including district 2.

4022
02:47:51,638 --> 02:47:54,638
We have the food deserts.

4023
02:47:55,774 --> 02:47:58,177
We have a huge [Lapse in audio]

4024
02:47:58,177 --> 02:48:00,313
Quality produce and other

4025
02:48:00,313 --> 02:48:02,313
healthy food options.

4026
02:48:03,116 --> 02:48:04,951
I would like to -- I'm going to

4027
02:48:04,951 --> 02:48:06,886
keep my comments short, but I

4028
02:48:06,886 --> 02:48:08,120
would like to sometime in this

4029
02:48:08,120 --> 02:48:10,156
upcoming week discuss this

4030
02:48:10,156 --> 02:48:11,992
program as it relates to

4031
02:48:11,992 --> 02:48:12,858
district 2.

4032
02:48:12,858 --> 02:48:17,580
I'd also like to go to the

4033
02:48:18,198 --> 02:48:20,198
mental health slide.

4034
02:48:20,800 --> 02:48:23,690
Where is establishing the

4035
02:48:23,690 --> 02:48:25,469
restorative justice within the

4036
02:48:26,105 --> 02:48:28,841
minimum of five school campuses,

4037
02:48:28,841 --> 02:48:31,841
when will those be decided?

4038
02:48:31,878 --> 02:48:33,446
>> we have relationships with

4039
02:48:33,446 --> 02:48:34,414
different ISDs and different

4040
02:48:34,414 --> 02:48:37,250
schools because of the work

4041
02:48:37,250 --> 02:48:39,486
we've been doing through the

4042
02:48:39,486 --> 02:48:41,886
trauma informed care consortium.

4043
02:48:43,390 --> 02:48:44,991
There's lot of synergy between

4044
02:48:44,991 --> 02:48:45,858
[Lapse in audio] And restorative

4045
02:48:45,858 --> 02:48:46,559
justice, especially in the

4046
02:48:46,559 --> 02:48:47,794
school setting.

4047
02:48:47,794 --> 02:48:48,895
So the schools, there are a

4048
02:48:48,895 --> 02:48:50,163
number of schools that have

4049
02:48:50,163 --> 02:48:52,265
really stepped it up and

4050
02:48:52,265 --> 02:48:52,999
provided leadership around this

4051
02:48:52,999 --> 02:48:55,350
trauma-informed care work that

4052
02:48:55,350 --> 02:48:56,836
we're doing.

4053
02:48:56,836 --> 02:48:58,371
We would want to partner with

4054
02:48:58,371 --> 02:48:58,571
them to take it to the next

4055
02:48:58,571 --> 02:49:00,571
level.

4056
02:49:00,973 --> 02:49:02,976
But these would be deepening

4057
02:49:02,976 --> 02:49:05,376
existing partnerships to start,

4058
02:49:05,378 --> 02:49:07,613
and then once we see how that

4059
02:49:07,613 --> 02:49:08,114
works, then we would go out to

4060
02:49:08,114 --> 02:49:08,448
other schools.

4061
02:49:08,448 --> 02:49:10,448
>> absolutely.

4062
02:49:17,257 --> 02:49:19,257
Thank you.

4063
02:49:19,626 --> 02:49:20,126
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

4064
02:49:20,126 --> 02:49:21,461
COUNCILMAN.

4065
02:49:21,461 --> 02:49:21,895
Councilmember perry.

4066
02:49:21,895 --> 02:49:22,262
>> Perry: thank you.

4067
02:49:22,262 --> 02:49:24,262
I appreciate it.

4068
02:49:26,499 --> 02:49:27,801
Slide 8.

4069
02:49:27,801 --> 02:49:30,801
We talked about people wanting

4070
02:49:32,390 --> 02:49:32,472
to increase the budgets.

4071
02:49:32,472 --> 02:49:34,472
Great.

4072
02:49:34,541 --> 02:49:37,541
But along with those increases,

4073
02:49:37,610 --> 02:49:41,181
you know, this is new money, the

4074
02:49:41,181 --> 02:49:42,149
12 million, 17 million.

4075
02:49:42,149 --> 02:49:42,949
Where is that money going to

4076
02:49:42,949 --> 02:49:44,919
come from?

4077
02:49:44,919 --> 02:49:47,870
I know it's a general fund, but

4078
02:49:47,870 --> 02:49:48,988
what are we going to cut?

4079
02:49:48,988 --> 02:49:50,857
We don't just grow money on

4080
02:49:50,857 --> 02:49:52,459
trees to fund these programs.

4081
02:49:52,459 --> 02:49:53,893
What are we cutting in order to

4082
02:49:53,893 --> 02:49:56,329
fund these programs in the

4083
02:49:56,329 --> 02:49:59,329
future, from the general fund?

4084
02:50:02,569 --> 02:50:03,837
>> well, COUNCILMAN, year one is

4085
02:50:03,837 --> 02:50:05,472
fiscal year '22.

4086
02:50:05,472 --> 02:50:06,673
What it's showing is based on

4087
02:50:06,673 --> 02:50:09,730
the current allocations that

4088
02:50:09,409 --> 02:50:12,450
we've received from the federal

4089
02:50:12,450 --> 02:50:14,445
government, grants through arpa,

4090
02:50:14,581 --> 02:50:18,781
we see being able to use, just

4091
02:50:19,286 --> 02:50:21,487
like we did with the recovery

4092
02:50:21,487 --> 02:50:23,189
funds, rely on those funding

4093
02:50:23,189 --> 02:50:26,189
first, and we're doing that

4094
02:50:26,426 --> 02:50:28,128
through the first two years.

4095
02:50:28,128 --> 02:50:29,596
Most of year three and four and

4096
02:50:29,596 --> 02:50:32,596
five we'll need to find

4097
02:50:32,899 --> 02:50:34,899
additional funding for.

4098
02:50:36,236 --> 02:50:38,504
Whether that is arpa phase 2

4099
02:50:38,504 --> 02:50:40,107
money, that has to be spent by

4100
02:50:40,107 --> 02:50:41,574
2026, which is within that

4101
02:50:41,574 --> 02:50:44,574
five-year time frame, whether it

4102
02:50:45,579 --> 02:50:46,880
is a portion of general fund,

4103
02:50:46,880 --> 02:50:49,683
whether, as we sit here a year

4104
02:50:49,683 --> 02:50:51,751
from now, the federal government

4105
02:50:51,751 --> 02:50:52,652
pushes out another [Lapse in

4106
02:50:52,652 --> 02:50:53,954
audio] In health grants.

4107
02:50:53,954 --> 02:50:55,880
I think the federal government

4108
02:50:55,880 --> 02:50:55,955
is going to treat health

4109
02:50:55,955 --> 02:50:56,589
departments like they did fire

4110
02:50:56,589 --> 02:50:58,989
departments after 9/11 for some

4111
02:50:59,492 --> 02:51:01,610
time.

4112
02:51:01,610 --> 02:51:03,297
So we're going to have to

4113
02:51:03,297 --> 02:51:06,199
continue to manage and monitor

4114
02:51:06,199 --> 02:51:09,702
and adjust this so that we

4115
02:51:09,702 --> 02:51:11,638
smooth those peaks out.

4116
02:51:11,638 --> 02:51:14,638
But the concept and elements

4117
02:51:15,275 --> 02:51:18,275
that DR. Bridger's presented is

4118
02:51:18,445 --> 02:51:20,445
an aggressive undertaking

4119
02:51:20,814 --> 02:51:21,315
towards the health outcomes in

4120
02:51:21,315 --> 02:51:23,150
our community.

4121
02:51:23,150 --> 02:51:23,450
>> Perry: that is pretty

4122
02:51:23,450 --> 02:51:25,450
aggressive.

4123
02:51:26,387 --> 02:51:28,421
I've got concerns with the

4124
02:51:28,421 --> 02:51:29,523
general fund, showing it right

4125
02:51:29,523 --> 02:51:31,759
there, with the majority, or all

4126
02:51:31,759 --> 02:51:33,193
of the funding here with the

4127
02:51:33,193 --> 02:51:35,428
four years coming out of the

4128
02:51:35,428 --> 02:51:37,428
general fund.

4129
02:51:39,799 --> 02:51:40,801
You know, you've got to cut

4130
02:51:40,801 --> 02:51:45,100
something to be able to pay for

4131
02:51:45,339 --> 02:51:46,106
that.

4132
02:51:46,106 --> 02:51:47,441
Any thoughts?

4133
02:51:47,441 --> 02:51:49,643
>> I was going to say, that's

4134
02:51:49,643 --> 02:51:51,643
another option.

4135
02:51:54,810 --> 02:51:55,349
I mean, for the new

4136
02:51:55,349 --> 02:51:58,349
councilmembers, we make cuts in

4137
02:51:58,418 --> 02:52:00,620
our budget as well, to

4138
02:52:00,620 --> 02:52:02,189
prioritize -- to fund higher

4139
02:52:02,189 --> 02:52:03,824
priority items.

4140
02:52:03,824 --> 02:52:06,760
That's an option as well as we

4141
02:52:06,760 --> 02:52:08,495
go through that journey in

4142
02:52:08,495 --> 02:52:08,796
reallocating existing budgets,

4143
02:52:08,796 --> 02:52:10,430
absolutely.

4144
02:52:10,430 --> 02:52:12,266
>> Perry: I'm concerned about

4145
02:52:12,266 --> 02:52:15,866
that, about those red bars there

4146
02:52:18,500 --> 02:52:19,606
in the general fund.

4147
02:52:19,606 --> 02:52:22,109
We didn't seem to get consensus

4148
02:52:22,109 --> 02:52:24,211
with the homestead on

4149
02:52:24,211 --> 02:52:26,611
projecting, and showing that

4150
02:52:27,447 --> 02:52:29,847
savings in the future.

4151
02:52:30,785 --> 02:52:32,286
so I'm just trying to have some

4152
02:52:32,286 --> 02:52:34,686
equity here between the

4153
02:52:34,888 --> 02:52:36,456
different programs that we're

4154
02:52:36,456 --> 02:52:38,425
looking at here today.

4155
02:52:38,425 --> 02:52:38,725
Anyway, that's my comments.

4156
02:52:38,725 --> 02:52:39,392
Thanks.

4157
02:52:39,392 --> 02:52:40,594
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

4158
02:52:40,594 --> 02:52:42,530
councilmember perry.

4159
02:52:42,530 --> 02:52:44,131
Councilmember pelaez.

4160
02:52:44,131 --> 02:52:46,660
>> Pelaez: thank you.

4161
02:52:46,660 --> 02:52:48,802
I'm interested in learning a

4162
02:52:48,802 --> 02:52:49,403
little bit more of the

4163
02:52:49,403 --> 02:52:51,803
cornerstone, about the corner

4164
02:52:52,472 --> 02:52:53,841
store initiative.

4165
02:52:53,841 --> 02:52:56,841
Maybe sometime before JULY 20th,

4166
02:52:57,945 --> 02:52:59,480
you and I can talk about that.

4167
02:52:59,480 --> 02:53:02,216
And the reason is because I've

4168
02:53:02,216 --> 02:53:03,484
been visiting with the

4169
02:53:03,484 --> 02:53:05,686
association of convenience store

4170
02:53:05,686 --> 02:53:07,155
retailers, and the south texas

4171
02:53:07,155 --> 02:53:08,622
emergency association, between

4172
02:53:08,622 --> 02:53:11,622
them we've got about 800 green

4173
02:53:12,693 --> 02:53:15,930
stores in san antonio.

4174
02:53:15,296 --> 02:53:17,564
And I see an opportunity here

4175
02:53:17,564 --> 02:53:21,134
for them to [Lapse in audio]

4176
02:53:21,134 --> 02:53:23,534
Participation in exchange for

4177
02:53:23,604 --> 02:53:26,400
possible downward adjustment of

4178
02:53:27,441 --> 02:53:28,910
the $600 hazmat fee that in

4179
02:53:28,910 --> 02:53:30,644
every other city in the state of

4180
02:53:30,644 --> 02:53:33,644
texas is a hundred bucks.

4181
02:53:34,448 --> 02:53:37,184
And I have yet to hear a reason

4182
02:53:37,184 --> 02:53:37,451
why ours needs to be $500 more

4183
02:53:37,451 --> 02:53:39,451
expensive.

4184
02:53:39,854 --> 02:53:40,687
The mayor and I were also

4185
02:53:40,687 --> 02:53:42,523
talking about possibly

4186
02:53:42,523 --> 02:53:44,923
positioning that adjustment, if

4187
02:53:46,494 --> 02:53:46,760
they were to install ev

4188
02:53:46,760 --> 02:53:48,395
chargers.

4189
02:53:48,395 --> 02:53:49,930
And anyway, something to

4190
02:53:49,930 --> 02:53:51,264
explore.

4191
02:53:51,264 --> 02:53:52,666
>> yeah.

4192
02:53:52,666 --> 02:53:53,330
I thought that's where you were

4193
02:53:53,330 --> 02:53:54,635
going.

4194
02:53:54,635 --> 02:53:55,636
Because I know we've talked

4195
02:53:55,636 --> 02:53:57,438
about that.

4196
02:53:57,438 --> 02:53:59,474
And there's probably really good

4197
02:53:59,474 --> 02:54:03,740
direct tie to the healthy corner

4198
02:54:03,544 --> 02:54:04,779
store for sure.

4199
02:54:04,779 --> 02:54:06,347
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

4200
02:54:06,347 --> 02:54:07,114
councilmember pelaez.

4201
02:54:07,114 --> 02:54:09,514
briefly, second round, because

4202
02:54:09,884 --> 02:54:13,320
we are into your lunch break.

4203
02:54:13,320 --> 02:54:13,955
And we're going to discuss

4204
02:54:13,955 --> 02:54:16,955
policing services in the lunch

4205
02:54:18,459 --> 02:54:20,459
period here.

4206
02:54:20,895 --> 02:54:22,290
Quickly, councilmember sandoval

4207
02:54:22,290 --> 02:54:23,197
and then bravo.

4208
02:54:23,197 --> 02:54:25,990
>> Sandoval: I want to say I

4209
02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:26,867
think we're so far ahead of

4210
02:54:26,867 --> 02:54:29,470
where we were when I came

4211
02:54:29,470 --> 02:54:31,710
onboard, after bridger, and it's

4212
02:54:31,710 --> 02:54:32,373
great to be here three, four

4213
02:54:32,373 --> 02:54:34,542
years later with you.

4214
02:54:34,542 --> 02:54:37,780
And I also want to thank the

4215
02:54:37,780 --> 02:54:38,450
mayor for creating the health

4216
02:54:38,450 --> 02:54:40,581
committee, and obviously a lot

4217
02:54:40,581 --> 02:54:41,682
of this discussion is due to the

4218
02:54:41,682 --> 02:54:43,251
pandemic, but I also think that

4219
02:54:43,251 --> 02:54:45,686
the stars are aligned and we

4220
02:54:45,686 --> 02:54:47,654
have the right people and the

4221
02:54:47,654 --> 02:54:48,289
right direction at the right

4222
02:54:48,289 --> 02:54:50,289
time.

4223
02:54:51,425 --> 02:54:52,693
And I hope we don't stop at 20.

4224
02:54:52,693 --> 02:54:53,728
And I appreciate the additional

4225
02:54:53,728 --> 02:54:55,363
support from the councilmembers

4226
02:54:55,363 --> 02:54:57,650
to continue to grow this budget

4227
02:54:57,650 --> 02:54:57,632
for a better community.

4228
02:54:57,632 --> 02:54:59,632
Thank you.

4229
02:55:01,168 --> 02:55:03,568
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

4230
02:55:04,400 --> 02:55:05,506
Councilmember sandoval.

4231
02:55:05,506 --> 02:55:07,107
Councilmember bravo.

4232
02:55:07,107 --> 02:55:10,707
>> I was hoping to provide a

4233
02:55:11,579 --> 02:55:12,546
segway to the police services.

4234
02:55:12,546 --> 02:55:14,810
[Lapse in audio] When we're

4235
02:55:14,810 --> 02:55:15,883
talking about restorative

4236
02:55:15,883 --> 02:55:18,653
justice programs, that this is

4237
02:55:18,653 --> 02:55:20,653
working towards community-based

4238
02:55:21,656 --> 02:55:22,923
violence prevention.

4239
02:55:22,923 --> 02:55:26,460
And we've heard our police chief

4240
02:55:26,460 --> 02:55:28,596
say that they can't do that job

4241
02:55:28,596 --> 02:55:30,298
alone, and [Lapse in audio] Our

4242
02:55:30,298 --> 02:55:30,498
way out of these problems.

4243
02:55:30,498 --> 02:55:31,966
Right?

4244
02:55:31,966 --> 02:55:34,269
We would be building our

4245
02:55:34,269 --> 02:55:35,202
community capacity to perform

4246
02:55:35,202 --> 02:55:36,638
restorative justice through this

4247
02:55:36,638 --> 02:55:38,339
program, that would make our

4248
02:55:38,339 --> 02:55:40,174
city safe, but it will help

4249
02:55:40,174 --> 02:55:41,375
break the cycles in

4250
02:55:41,375 --> 02:55:42,476
third-generation incarceration

4251
02:55:42,476 --> 02:55:45,312
and move away from a system of

4252
02:55:45,312 --> 02:55:47,148
mass incarceration.

4253
02:55:47,148 --> 02:55:49,651
And by doing that, we also are

4254
02:55:49,651 --> 02:55:50,251
going to free up law enforcement

4255
02:55:50,251 --> 02:55:52,860
resources.

4256
02:55:52,860 --> 02:55:52,420
Work on other projects here in

4257
02:55:52,420 --> 02:55:54,420
our community.

4258
02:55:54,455 --> 02:55:56,891
So I want to make sure

4259
02:55:56,891 --> 02:55:59,127
everybody's mindful of that.

4260
02:55:59,127 --> 02:55:59,794
And I skipped over adverse

4261
02:55:59,794 --> 02:56:01,629
childhood experiences.

4262
02:56:01,629 --> 02:56:03,664
I wanted to go back to that,

4263
02:56:03,664 --> 02:56:04,732
because it's so important, that

4264
02:56:04,732 --> 02:56:05,800
I think everybody in this room

4265
02:56:05,800 --> 02:56:07,635
is aware of that.

4266
02:56:07,635 --> 02:56:10,337
Can you tell us a little bit

4267
02:56:10,337 --> 02:56:12,600
more about the childhood adverse

4268
02:56:12,600 --> 02:56:12,640
experiences.

4269
02:56:12,640 --> 02:56:13,674
>> my favorite thing that I've

4270
02:56:13,674 --> 02:56:15,674
worked on.

4271
02:56:16,845 --> 02:56:17,445
So adverse childhood

4272
02:56:17,445 --> 02:56:19,845
experiences, trauma that you

4273
02:56:21,282 --> 02:56:22,884
experience while you're a child.

4274
02:56:22,884 --> 02:56:24,652
It changes the structure of your

4275
02:56:24,652 --> 02:56:26,688
brain and how it interacts with

4276
02:56:26,688 --> 02:56:30,458
your body, in a way that puts

4277
02:56:30,458 --> 02:56:33,270
people at higher risk for

4278
02:56:33,270 --> 02:56:33,427
chronic diseases and, you know,

4279
02:56:33,427 --> 02:56:34,129
mental and behave

4280
02:56:34,129 --> 02:56:35,630
ioral health

4281
02:56:35,630 --> 02:56:37,630
issues as well.

4282
02:56:41,369 --> 02:56:43,271
And so I would be happy [Lapse

4283
02:56:43,271 --> 02:56:45,671
in audio] Another presentation

4284
02:56:45,873 --> 02:56:46,841
if people would be interested, I

4285
02:56:46,841 --> 02:56:49,311
would be happy to come to your

4286
02:56:49,311 --> 02:56:50,512
office and go through it.

4287
02:56:50,512 --> 02:56:52,681
It's my absolute favorite thing

4288
02:56:52,681 --> 02:56:53,247
to talk about.

4289
02:56:53,247 --> 02:56:53,915
>> we would be interested.

4290
02:56:53,915 --> 02:56:56,315
>> Mayor Nirenberg: erik, just

4291
02:56:57,118 --> 02:56:59,287
to put an earmark on this one,

4292
02:56:59,287 --> 02:57:00,522
we're going to have a

4293
02:57:00,522 --> 02:57:01,757
departmental briefing during the

4294
02:57:01,757 --> 02:57:02,824
budget session, right?

4295
02:57:02,824 --> 02:57:04,926
Get into things like that?

4296
02:57:04,926 --> 02:57:05,460
>> absolutely.

4297
02:57:05,460 --> 02:57:07,460
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay.

4298
02:57:07,929 --> 02:57:08,563
Just to put a bow on this

4299
02:57:08,563 --> 02:57:09,163
discussion, and move right into

4300
02:57:09,163 --> 02:57:11,163
policing services.

4301
02:57:13,801 --> 02:57:16,201
just for process-wise, council,

4302
02:57:16,637 --> 02:57:18,539
I will literally -- well, we

4303
02:57:18,539 --> 02:57:21,420
won't take a break at all.

4304
02:57:21,420 --> 02:57:22,377
I'll ask you if you can bring

4305
02:57:22,377 --> 02:57:25,977
your food back, we'll do a

4306
02:57:27,449 --> 02:57:28,516
little bit of a transition

4307
02:57:28,516 --> 02:57:28,950
between ser

4308
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:30,950
[Lapse in audio].

4309
02:57:30,985 --> 02:57:31,219
We've been talking about

4310
02:57:31,219 --> 02:57:32,821
funding.

4311
02:57:32,821 --> 02:57:33,722
I also don't want to see us at

4312
02:57:33,722 --> 02:57:34,990
the bottom in terms of

4313
02:57:34,990 --> 02:57:37,158
investment in public health.

4314
02:57:37,158 --> 02:57:39,727
I think it's very difficult to

4315
02:57:39,727 --> 02:57:42,127
get an apple-to-apple comparison

4316
02:57:42,263 --> 02:57:44,933
just because of the segmentation

4317
02:57:44,933 --> 02:57:46,467
of the different departments,

4318
02:57:46,467 --> 02:57:48,736
county and city investments.

4319
02:57:48,736 --> 02:57:51,239
I'm all for making sure that

4320
02:57:51,239 --> 02:57:52,741
we're prioritizing public

4321
02:57:52,741 --> 02:57:53,775
spending, which in my mind if

4322
02:57:53,775 --> 02:57:56,411
we're going to talk about, are

4323
02:57:56,411 --> 02:57:59,647
we doing a good job, it is, are

4324
02:57:59,647 --> 02:58:00,470
we improving the health outcomes

4325
02:58:00,470 --> 02:58:01,716
of our community.

4326
02:58:01,716 --> 02:58:03,451
That's as basic as you can get.

4327
02:58:03,451 --> 02:58:05,420
Making sure that our community

4328
02:58:05,420 --> 02:58:09,200
is healthy and well, and that's

4329
02:58:09,910 --> 02:58:10,250
how we ultimately judge our

4330
02:58:10,250 --> 02:58:12,250
performance.

4331
02:58:13,395 --> 02:58:15,864
But as we -- in terms of growing

4332
02:58:15,864 --> 02:58:18,660
the budget, what I'll be looking

4333
02:58:18,660 --> 02:58:18,466
for, number one, is it

4334
02:58:18,466 --> 02:58:20,466
sustainable.

4335
02:58:21,102 --> 02:58:22,504
Are we vulnerable to the impacts

4336
02:58:22,504 --> 02:58:26,104
of grant funding at the federal

4337
02:58:26,241 --> 02:58:27,809
or state level, and two, do we

4338
02:58:27,809 --> 02:58:28,760
have a direction for those

4339
02:58:28,760 --> 02:58:29,777
dollars.

4340
02:58:29,777 --> 02:58:33,377
We can increase the budget, but

4341
02:58:33,881 --> 02:58:35,584
if we don't know what we're

4342
02:58:35,584 --> 02:58:36,417
increasing the budget for, we're

4343
02:58:36,417 --> 02:58:38,417
missing the point.

4344
02:58:39,687 --> 02:58:41,222
We want to see us do better, and

4345
02:58:41,222 --> 02:58:43,240
I think it's among the highest

4346
02:58:43,240 --> 02:58:44,259
priorities we have in terms of

4347
02:58:44,259 --> 02:58:45,761
judging our performance overall

4348
02:58:45,761 --> 02:58:47,996
in terms of an organization.

4349
02:58:47,996 --> 02:58:49,998
I want to make sure we're going

4350
02:58:49,998 --> 02:58:52,330
to it eyes wide open.

4351
02:58:52,330 --> 02:58:52,567
erik, let me toss it back to you

4352
02:58:52,567 --> 02:58:52,934
respond and then you can

4353
02:58:52,934 --> 02:58:54,934
transition us.

4354
02:58:56,271 --> 02:58:58,271
>> yeah.

4355
02:58:58,273 --> 02:59:00,708
I wasn't going to respond to

4356
02:59:00,708 --> 02:59:00,976
that, mayor, you summed it up

4357
02:59:00,976 --> 02:59:02,976
perfectly.

4358
02:59:09,918 --> 02:59:14,589
I wanted to point out, I want to

4359
02:59:14,589 --> 02:59:16,589
thank DR.

4360
02:59:17,258 --> 02:59:18,726
>> she'll be here through

4361
02:59:18,726 --> 02:59:21,726
JULY 20th, it's not the

4362
02:59:22,631 --> 02:59:23,832
end, and we have been

4363
02:59:23,832 --> 02:59:24,966
keeping claude jacob

4364
02:59:24,966 --> 02:59:27,202
updated of this plan.

4365
02:59:27,202 --> 02:59:28,637
He will start on

4366
02:59:28,637 --> 02:59:29,304
JULY 6th, and

4367
02:59:29,304 --> 02:59:31,273
DR. Bridger's last day

4368
02:59:31,273 --> 02:59:32,408
will be JULY 20th, and

4369
02:59:32,408 --> 02:59:34,543
there will be probably a

4370
02:59:34,543 --> 02:59:35,543
small party, but -- but

4371
02:59:35,543 --> 02:59:36,878
thank you, colleen, I

4372
02:59:36,878 --> 02:59:39,878
just wanted to remind the

4373
02:59:51,192 --> 02:59:51,894
council.

4374
02:59:51,894 --> 02:59:52,695
[Applause]

4375
02:59:52,695 --> 02:59:54,695
>> Mayor Nirenberg: can

4376
02:59:54,730 --> 02:59:56,631
I make one rk, if folks

4377
02:59:56,631 --> 02:59:58,767
are going to get up and

4378
02:59:58,767 --> 03:00:00,569
grab a plate, no more

4379
03:00:00,569 --> 03:00:02,204
than two councilmembers

4380
03:00:02,204 --> 03:00:03,539
leave at any one time.

4381
03:00:03,539 --> 03:00:04,673
Just wait until somebody

4382
03:00:04,673 --> 03:00:06,842
comes back to go forward.

4383
03:00:06,842 --> 03:00:07,475
Go ahead, maria.

4384
03:00:07,475 --> 03:00:08,577
>> sure.

4385
03:00:08,577 --> 03:00:09,644
Before I get into the

4386
03:00:09,644 --> 03:00:10,512
details of this

4387
03:00:10,512 --> 03:00:11,747
presentation, just wanted

4388
03:00:11,747 --> 03:00:12,281
to make a couple of

4389
03:00:12,281 --> 03:00:13,516
points.

4390
03:00:13,516 --> 03:00:15,117
The reason why we

4391
03:00:15,117 --> 03:00:15,718
scheduled this meeting

4392
03:00:15,718 --> 03:00:17,119
after the public health

4393
03:00:17,119 --> 03:00:18,287
meeting is because

4394
03:00:18,287 --> 03:00:20,880
there's a lot of

4395
03:00:20,880 --> 03:00:22,880
connections between the

4396
03:00:22,258 --> 03:00:23,659
work that are you seeing

4397
03:00:23,659 --> 03:00:26,590
and the strategic growth

4398
03:00:26,950 --> 03:00:26,829
plan and the framework of

4399
03:00:26,829 --> 03:00:27,629
recommendations we're

4400
03:00:27,629 --> 03:00:28,397
going to present to the

4401
03:00:28,397 --> 03:00:29,532
council today, so you

4402
03:00:29,532 --> 03:00:30,432
will see a lot of

4403
03:00:30,432 --> 03:00:31,633
connections there.

4404
03:00:31,633 --> 03:00:32,601
The other point want to

4405
03:00:32,601 --> 03:00:34,102
makes a I present to you

4406
03:00:34,102 --> 03:00:36,305
an update on the project,

4407
03:00:36,305 --> 03:00:38,400
and the framework for the

4408
03:00:38,400 --> 03:00:38,707
recommendations, in terms

4409
03:00:38,707 --> 03:00:40,309
of additional investment

4410
03:00:40,309 --> 03:00:43,450
to be able to do some of

4411
03:00:43,450 --> 03:00:45,450
the recommendations here

4412
03:00:45,247 --> 03:00:46,782
today, you saw during the

4413
03:00:46,782 --> 03:00:48,650
trial budget presentation

4414
03:00:48,650 --> 03:00:50,519
that there are some set

4415
03:00:50,519 --> 03:00:52,454
asides for public health

4416
03:00:52,454 --> 03:00:53,255
in terms of mental health

4417
03:00:53,255 --> 03:00:55,655
and domestic violence and

4418
03:00:55,958 --> 03:00:57,893
the growth of the

4419
03:00:57,893 --> 03:00:58,627
strategic plan as well a

4420
03:00:58,627 --> 03:01:00,495
homelessness.

4421
03:01:00,495 --> 03:01:01,563
I wanted to keep that

4422
03:01:01,563 --> 03:01:02,364
tie, so when you hear the

4423
03:01:02,364 --> 03:01:03,499
framework, you keep that

4424
03:01:03,499 --> 03:01:04,633
in mind.

4425
03:01:04,633 --> 03:01:06,569
So you have seen in the

4426
03:01:06,569 --> 03:01:07,680
past, we started this

4427
03:01:07,680 --> 03:01:09,468
work when the city

4428
03:01:09,705 --> 03:01:10,539
manager provided a

4429
03:01:10,539 --> 03:01:11,573
framework for the review

4430
03:01:11,573 --> 03:01:13,642
of police services in

4431
03:01:13,642 --> 03:01:15,642
AUGUST of 2020.

4432
03:01:15,811 --> 03:01:16,812
We have provided this

4433
03:01:16,812 --> 03:01:18,113
presentation to our

4434
03:01:18,113 --> 03:01:20,113
public safety committee

4435
03:01:20,316 --> 03:01:21,883
last week on the 23rd,

4436
03:01:21,883 --> 03:01:23,618
and the last update that

4437
03:01:23,618 --> 03:01:25,287
we made to the full

4438
03:01:25,287 --> 03:01:26,188
council for this project

4439
03:01:26,188 --> 03:01:27,422
was on MAY 5th.

4440
03:01:27,422 --> 03:01:28,524
So this is our second

4441
03:01:28,524 --> 03:01:29,910
update to the full

4442
03:01:29,910 --> 03:01:30,293
council.

4443
03:01:30,293 --> 03:01:32,428
So the work that we're

4444
03:01:32,428 --> 03:01:34,163
doing is divided in four

4445
03:01:34,163 --> 03:01:35,397
pillars, the first one is

4446
03:01:35,397 --> 03:01:37,165
addressing foundational

4447
03:01:37,165 --> 03:01:38,835
issues, and this includes

4448
03:01:38,835 --> 03:01:40,835
areas of accountability,

4449
03:01:40,936 --> 03:01:41,470
our discipline process

4450
03:01:41,470 --> 03:01:43,470
within the police

4451
03:01:43,605 --> 03:01:44,974
department, hiring and

4452
03:01:44,974 --> 03:01:46,642
training, transparency

4453
03:01:46,642 --> 03:01:47,310
and data and community

4454
03:01:47,310 --> 03:01:48,744
engagement.

4455
03:01:48,744 --> 03:01:49,778
And I waft want to

4456
03:01:49,778 --> 03:01:50,579
highlight on the

4457
03:01:50,579 --> 03:01:52,140
discipline process, this

4458
03:01:52,140 --> 03:01:53,582
is part of our collective

4459
03:01:53,582 --> 03:01:54,850
bargaining agreement, and

4460
03:01:54,850 --> 03:01:55,317
the city is currently

4461
03:01:55,317 --> 03:01:57,317
negotiating with the

4462
03:01:57,319 --> 03:01:58,353
police officer's

4463
03:01:58,353 --> 03:01:59,922
association to make

4464
03:01:59,922 --> 03:02:01,324
changes to our

4465
03:02:01,324 --> 03:02:03,324
disciplinary process.

4466
03:02:03,759 --> 03:02:04,926
Those negotiations are on

4467
03:02:04,926 --> 03:02:06,950
going, and actually our

4468
03:02:06,950 --> 03:02:07,463
next meeting with the

4469
03:02:07,463 --> 03:02:08,197
association is on

4470
03:02:08,197 --> 03:02:09,398
JULY 8th, so we'll

4471
03:02:09,398 --> 03:02:10,232
continue to make -- to

4472
03:02:10,232 --> 03:02:10,800
have conversations with

4473
03:02:10,800 --> 03:02:12,670
them.

4474
03:02:12,670 --> 03:02:14,467
We've made some progress

4475
03:02:14,470 --> 03:02:15,137
in some of the areas of

4476
03:02:15,137 --> 03:02:16,238
discipline that were

4477
03:02:16,238 --> 03:02:18,638
priorities to the city.

4478
03:02:19,509 --> 03:02:21,430
For example, the 180 day

4479
03:02:21,430 --> 03:02:21,778
rule which is when the

4480
03:02:21,778 --> 03:02:23,345
police chief has the

4481
03:02:23,345 --> 03:02:24,747
ability to discipline an

4482
03:02:24,747 --> 03:02:26,747
employee under the

4483
03:02:26,916 --> 03:02:28,784
current contract, it's

4484
03:02:28,784 --> 03:02:29,585
180 days from the date of

4485
03:02:29,585 --> 03:02:31,354
the incident.

4486
03:02:31,354 --> 03:02:32,922
In negotiations with the

4487
03:02:32,922 --> 03:02:34,922
association, we have

4488
03:02:35,591 --> 03:02:36,692
consensus to transition

4489
03:02:36,692 --> 03:02:39,428
to 180 days from the day

4490
03:02:39,428 --> 03:02:40,396
that the chief knew or

4491
03:02:40,396 --> 03:02:41,730
should have known for

4492
03:02:41,730 --> 03:02:43,432
major incidents, just to

4493
03:02:43,432 --> 03:02:44,800
give you an example.

4494
03:02:44,800 --> 03:02:45,968
The area of arbitration,

4495
03:02:45,968 --> 03:02:47,360
which is one of the

4496
03:02:47,360 --> 03:02:48,337
highest priority of the

4497
03:02:48,337 --> 03:02:49,972
city, as we presented it

4498
03:02:49,972 --> 03:02:52,372
to the council, we

4499
03:02:52,641 --> 03:02:54,641
continue to have

4500
03:02:54,977 --> 03:02:55,845
discussions on the 30 of

4501
03:02:55,845 --> 03:02:57,113
the arbitrator.

4502
03:02:57,113 --> 03:02:59,482
Our goal is that the

4503
03:02:59,482 --> 03:03:00,483
final decision is

4504
03:03:00,483 --> 03:03:01,617
achieved, and we'll

4505
03:03:01,617 --> 03:03:02,118
continue to have those

4506
03:03:02,118 --> 03:03:02,818
corporations with the

4507
03:03:02,818 --> 03:03:04,818
association.

4508
03:03:04,987 --> 03:03:07,987
The next pillar on our

4509
03:03:08,558 --> 03:03:10,392
project is expectations,

4510
03:03:10,392 --> 03:03:11,360
and -- excuse me, while

4511
03:03:11,360 --> 03:03:13,529
we're trying to identify

4512
03:03:13,529 --> 03:03:14,960
it is what is the role of

4513
03:03:14,960 --> 03:03:15,310
the police department.

4514
03:03:15,310 --> 03:03:17,310
What are those

4515
03:03:17,333 --> 03:03:17,933
expectations that our

4516
03:03:17,933 --> 03:03:20,333
community is wanting to

4517
03:03:20,603 --> 03:03:21,237
have with our police

4518
03:03:21,237 --> 03:03:22,705
officers?

4519
03:03:22,705 --> 03:03:23,806
The input process is very

4520
03:03:23,806 --> 03:03:24,540
important in this

4521
03:03:24,540 --> 03:03:26,476
project.

4522
03:03:26,476 --> 03:03:27,576
Input from our community

4523
03:03:27,576 --> 03:03:28,711
stakeholder groups, our

4524
03:03:28,711 --> 03:03:29,846
city council, and our

4525
03:03:29,846 --> 03:03:30,980
public safety committee

4526
03:03:30,980 --> 03:03:31,881
who is overseeing this

4527
03:03:31,881 --> 03:03:33,881
project.

4528
03:03:33,883 --> 03:03:35,284
And finally, on the

4529
03:03:35,284 --> 03:03:37,152
response alternatives,

4530
03:03:37,152 --> 03:03:39,489
the city manager laid out

4531
03:03:39,489 --> 03:03:41,889
three priorities -- thank

4532
03:03:41,924 --> 03:03:43,826
you -- including domestic

4533
03:03:43,826 --> 03:03:45,826
violence, homelessness

4534
03:03:46,329 --> 03:03:48,970
and mental health.

4535
03:03:48,970 --> 03:03:49,198
So an update on our

4536
03:03:49,198 --> 03:03:50,800
community input process,

4537
03:03:50,800 --> 03:03:52,268
we started in FEBRUARY,

4538
03:03:52,268 --> 03:03:54,370
and the community input

4539
03:03:54,370 --> 03:03:54,570
process ended this month

4540
03:03:54,570 --> 03:03:56,305
of JUNE.

4541
03:03:56,305 --> 03:03:57,240
We did a scientific

4542
03:03:57,240 --> 03:03:57,874
survey from FEBRUARY

4543
03:03:57,874 --> 03:03:59,809
through MARCH.

4544
03:03:59,809 --> 03:04:02,809
We took the results of

4545
03:04:03,546 --> 03:04:05,348
that scientific survey to

4546
03:04:05,348 --> 03:04:06,349
get qualitative data from

4547
03:04:06,349 --> 03:04:07,550
our community in terms of

4548
03:04:07,550 --> 03:04:08,384
what it means to each of

4549
03:04:08,384 --> 03:04:10,120
our neighborhoods.

4550
03:04:10,120 --> 03:04:10,987
We did a total of 27

4551
03:04:10,987 --> 03:04:12,288
meetings with our

4552
03:04:12,288 --> 03:04:14,190
neighborhoods.

4553
03:04:14,190 --> 03:04:15,492
We also had community

4554
03:04:15,492 --> 03:04:17,193
conversations, meetings

4555
03:04:17,193 --> 03:04:18,261
with stakeholder groups,

4556
03:04:18,261 --> 03:04:19,228
and also we engage our

4557
03:04:19,228 --> 03:04:20,930
police officers to also

4558
03:04:20,930 --> 03:04:22,665
get their input for this

4559
03:04:22,665 --> 03:04:23,833
process.

4560
03:04:23,833 --> 03:04:25,802
So 27 community meetings

4561
03:04:25,802 --> 03:04:26,603
in total, a total of 12

4562
03:04:26,603 --> 03:04:28,603
stakeholder meetings,

4563
03:04:28,872 --> 03:04:30,606
with a total of 62

4564
03:04:30,606 --> 03:04:32,606
different groups that

4565
03:04:33,509 --> 03:04:34,276
were engaged in these

4566
03:04:34,276 --> 03:04:35,912
conversations, and then

4567
03:04:35,912 --> 03:04:38,214
we conducted a survey in

4568
03:04:38,214 --> 03:04:40,116
the police department

4569
03:04:40,116 --> 03:04:42,516
with 826 responses, in a

4570
03:04:43,190 --> 03:04:43,886
meeting with roughly

4571
03:04:43,886 --> 03:04:45,886
about 60 police officers.

4572
03:04:46,222 --> 03:04:47,257
Now, what we heard from

4573
03:04:47,257 --> 03:04:49,920
the community

4574
03:04:49,920 --> 03:04:50,560
organizations, as we went

4575
03:04:50,560 --> 03:04:52,629
back to the results that

4576
03:04:52,629 --> 03:04:53,763
we got on the scientific

4577
03:04:53,763 --> 03:04:55,364
survey, one of the

4578
03:04:55,364 --> 03:04:57,634
questions we wanted to

4579
03:04:57,634 --> 03:04:58,902
know is how can the

4580
03:04:58,902 --> 03:04:59,569
police department build

4581
03:04:59,569 --> 03:05:01,170
better community

4582
03:05:01,170 --> 03:05:01,404
relationships with the

4583
03:05:01,404 --> 03:05:03,206
public?

4584
03:05:03,206 --> 03:05:04,941
What we heard from those

4585
03:05:04,941 --> 03:05:07,410
27 meetings is one of the

4586
03:05:07,410 --> 03:05:08,845
priorities is our safe

4587
03:05:08,845 --> 03:05:11,481
program, and I think that

4588
03:05:11,481 --> 03:05:11,915
those of you on the

4589
03:05:11,915 --> 03:05:13,316
meetings with your

4590
03:05:13,316 --> 03:05:14,170
council districts.

4591
03:05:14,170 --> 03:05:15,284
[Lapse in audio]

4592
03:05:15,284 --> 03:05:17,284
Community based policing

4593
03:05:17,853 --> 03:05:19,880
program was another area

4594
03:05:19,880 --> 03:05:20,423
where the community

4595
03:05:20,423 --> 03:05:22,920
indicates that we can

4596
03:05:22,920 --> 03:05:22,992
build better

4597
03:05:22,992 --> 03:05:23,927
relationships in

4598
03:05:23,927 --> 03:05:24,961
involvement with you.

4599
03:05:24,961 --> 03:05:26,596
Another area that we

4600
03:05:26,596 --> 03:05:27,664
wanted to get further

4601
03:05:27,664 --> 03:05:29,650
clarification from the

4602
03:05:29,650 --> 03:05:30,600
survey is one of the

4603
03:05:30,600 --> 03:05:32,669
questions we asked is do

4604
03:05:32,669 --> 03:05:33,903
you feel safe at night in

4605
03:05:33,903 --> 03:05:35,903
your neighborhood?

4606
03:05:36,139 --> 03:05:38,539
And we found that

4607
03:05:38,808 --> 03:05:40,109
overall, over 50% of the

4608
03:05:40,109 --> 03:05:41,244
respondents felt safe,

4609
03:05:41,244 --> 03:05:43,580
but there were areas in

4610
03:05:43,580 --> 03:05:44,647
our cities, specifically

4611
03:05:44,647 --> 03:05:46,160
district 3 and district

4612
03:05:46,160 --> 03:05:46,950
4, that indicated we

4613
03:05:46,950 --> 03:05:48,950
don't feel safe.

4614
03:05:49,786 --> 03:05:50,987
So to that effect, the

4615
03:05:50,987 --> 03:05:51,988
police chief has started

4616
03:05:51,988 --> 03:05:52,889
meetings with those

4617
03:05:52,889 --> 03:05:53,924
neighborhood associations

4618
03:05:53,924 --> 03:05:55,892
to try to identify what

4619
03:05:55,892 --> 03:05:58,127
we can do better, but

4620
03:05:58,127 --> 03:05:59,696
when we ask the question,

4621
03:05:59,696 --> 03:06:01,565
what we heard is street

4622
03:06:01,565 --> 03:06:02,598
lighting is one of the

4623
03:06:02,598 --> 03:06:04,134
priorities, and not only

4624
03:06:04,134 --> 03:06:04,835
of those districts, but

4625
03:06:04,835 --> 03:06:06,302
of all the community

4626
03:06:06,302 --> 03:06:07,837
conversations that we

4627
03:06:07,837 --> 03:06:09,172
had, getting to know

4628
03:06:09,172 --> 03:06:10,307
their neighbors better,

4629
03:06:10,307 --> 03:06:11,207
having neighborhood watch

4630
03:06:11,207 --> 03:06:13,207
programs and personal

4631
03:06:13,342 --> 03:06:14,477
security systems.

4632
03:06:14,477 --> 03:06:16,877
Another area that we

4633
03:06:17,380 --> 03:06:18,214
wanted to get more

4634
03:06:18,214 --> 03:06:20,614
qualitative data from our

4635
03:06:21,151 --> 03:06:22,452
community is how should

4636
03:06:22,452 --> 03:06:23,487
the disability increase?

4637
03:06:23,487 --> 03:06:25,388
We asked that question in

4638
03:06:25,388 --> 03:06:28,258
the survey, and when we

4639
03:06:28,258 --> 03:06:29,259
asked the question at the

4640
03:06:29,259 --> 03:06:31,259
community conversations,

4641
03:06:31,794 --> 03:06:33,196
what we got is more

4642
03:06:33,196 --> 03:06:35,196
community involvement

4643
03:06:35,232 --> 03:06:36,432
from our police officers

4644
03:06:36,432 --> 03:06:36,766
with neighborhood

4645
03:06:36,766 --> 03:06:38,766
associations,

4646
03:06:39,269 --> 03:06:40,136
neighborhood events,

4647
03:06:40,136 --> 03:06:42,536
getting to know the

4648
03:06:44,400 --> 03:06:44,741
community, more practical

4649
03:06:44,741 --> 03:06:45,842
patrols, walking around

4650
03:06:45,842 --> 03:06:47,477
the neighborhoods getting

4651
03:06:47,477 --> 03:06:48,478
to know the neighborhood

4652
03:06:48,478 --> 03:06:50,478
and the community.

4653
03:06:50,947 --> 03:06:53,283
In the area of what is

4654
03:06:53,283 --> 03:06:55,519
the most impactful type

4655
03:06:55,519 --> 03:06:57,870
of call that we can have

4656
03:06:57,870 --> 03:06:59,560
an alternative response

4657
03:06:59,560 --> 03:07:01,240
to having sapd being the

4658
03:07:01,240 --> 03:07:03,226
primary response to a 911

4659
03:07:03,226 --> 03:07:04,528
call that we received,

4660
03:07:04,528 --> 03:07:05,863
mental health and

4661
03:07:05,863 --> 03:07:06,930
substance abuse calls

4662
03:07:06,930 --> 03:07:09,299
that involve a weapon was

4663
03:07:09,299 --> 03:07:11,435
the number one call.

4664
03:07:11,435 --> 03:07:12,269
Animal related calls was

4665
03:07:12,269 --> 03:07:13,637
the second one.

4666
03:07:13,637 --> 03:07:15,238
Followed to no change to

4667
03:07:15,238 --> 03:07:16,540
the current way that we

4668
03:07:16,540 --> 03:07:18,542
deliver services to our

4669
03:07:18,542 --> 03:07:19,476
community.

4670
03:07:19,476 --> 03:07:20,577
I'm going to transition

4671
03:07:20,577 --> 03:07:22,679
now to some of the

4672
03:07:22,679 --> 03:07:24,140
comments that we heard

4673
03:07:24,140 --> 03:07:25,150
from stakeholder groups.

4674
03:07:25,150 --> 03:07:27,251
And you will see that

4675
03:07:27,251 --> 03:07:29,686
some of this that you're

4676
03:07:29,686 --> 03:07:30,187
going to hear from the

4677
03:07:30,187 --> 03:07:32,522
groups and also from our

4678
03:07:32,522 --> 03:07:34,580
community health and

4679
03:07:34,580 --> 03:07:36,250
equity, the work that

4680
03:07:36,250 --> 03:07:36,960
metro health is doing in

4681
03:07:36,960 --> 03:07:38,295
their strategic growth

4682
03:07:38,295 --> 03:07:39,196
plan.

4683
03:07:39,196 --> 03:07:40,731
So in terms of

4684
03:07:40,731 --> 03:07:41,832
alternative responses,

4685
03:07:41,832 --> 03:07:43,266
mental health response,

4686
03:07:43,266 --> 03:07:44,100
trauma with a

4687
03:07:44,100 --> 03:07:46,100
trauma-informed care

4688
03:07:47,104 --> 03:07:48,400
framework was one of the

4689
03:07:48,400 --> 03:07:50,400
priorities, having

4690
03:07:50,730 --> 03:07:51,841
spanish speaking crisis

4691
03:07:51,841 --> 03:07:53,841
response team members,

4692
03:07:53,877 --> 03:07:55,579
assisting officers at

4693
03:07:55,579 --> 03:07:56,947
calls, specifically

4694
03:07:56,947 --> 03:07:58,648
domestic violence, in

4695
03:07:58,648 --> 03:07:59,382
terms of data and

4696
03:07:59,382 --> 03:08:00,917
transparency, as we are

4697
03:08:00,917 --> 03:08:02,353
trying to update our

4698
03:08:02,353 --> 03:08:03,860
website, and we want to

4699
03:08:03,860 --> 03:08:04,540
know what is important to

4700
03:08:04,540 --> 03:08:06,540
the community, more

4701
03:08:06,356 --> 03:08:07,791
information on our racial

4702
03:08:07,791 --> 03:08:08,893
profiling report, deep

4703
03:08:08,893 --> 03:08:10,893
data nalts

4704
03:08:11,262 --> 03:08:13,262
analysis on traffic

4705
03:08:13,397 --> 03:08:14,865
stop and stop outcomes,

4706
03:08:14,865 --> 03:08:15,433
and in terms of

4707
03:08:15,433 --> 03:08:16,867
engagement with a

4708
03:08:16,867 --> 03:08:17,434
community, what we heard

4709
03:08:17,434 --> 03:08:18,569
also is that our

4710
03:08:18,569 --> 03:08:20,969
community members want to

4711
03:08:21,172 --> 03:08:22,506
get to know officers at a

4712
03:08:22,506 --> 03:08:23,406
more personal level.

4713
03:08:23,406 --> 03:08:25,806
They indicated that they

4714
03:08:26,760 --> 03:08:28,476
would like our officers

4715
03:08:28,946 --> 03:08:30,380
to engage under the

4716
03:08:30,380 --> 03:08:31,649
offduty time, not wearing

4717
03:08:31,649 --> 03:08:32,850
a uniform, to develop

4718
03:08:32,850 --> 03:08:34,485
those relationships with

4719
03:08:34,485 --> 03:08:35,652
our community.

4720
03:08:35,652 --> 03:08:37,354
Now, moving to what we

4721
03:08:37,354 --> 03:08:38,555
heard from our police

4722
03:08:38,555 --> 03:08:39,790
officers, as we wanted

4723
03:08:39,790 --> 03:08:41,592
also to make sure that

4724
03:08:41,592 --> 03:08:43,661
you hear their input, one

4725
03:08:43,661 --> 03:08:45,762
of the questions that we

4726
03:08:45,762 --> 03:08:47,198
asked them is what is the

4727
03:08:47,198 --> 03:08:48,599
level of agreement with

4728
03:08:48,599 --> 03:08:50,901
what you heard from the

4729
03:08:50,901 --> 03:08:52,637
community, the top five

4730
03:08:52,637 --> 03:08:55,370
calls where sapd perhaps

4731
03:08:56,400 --> 03:08:57,375
doesn't take a primary

4732
03:08:57,375 --> 03:08:59,310
role, and of the six

4733
03:08:59,310 --> 03:09:00,777
calls, five of them, the

4734
03:09:00,777 --> 03:09:02,746
police officers agree,

4735
03:09:02,746 --> 03:09:03,914
more than 50% said, yes,

4736
03:09:03,914 --> 03:09:05,115
we agree with the

4737
03:09:05,115 --> 03:09:06,160
community saying

4738
03:09:06,160 --> 03:09:06,684
animal-related calls

4739
03:09:06,684 --> 03:09:09,860
shouldn't be a call for

4740
03:09:09,860 --> 03:09:10,721
the police officers to

4741
03:09:10,721 --> 03:09:12,256
address enforcement of

4742
03:09:12,256 --> 03:09:13,790
public health orders,

4743
03:09:13,790 --> 03:09:15,920
parking violations, and

4744
03:09:15,920 --> 03:09:17,920
mental health and

4745
03:09:17,940 --> 03:09:18,595
substance abuse not

4746
03:09:18,595 --> 03:09:19,663
involving a weapon.

4747
03:09:19,663 --> 03:09:21,431
We also asked them what

4748
03:09:21,431 --> 03:09:22,399
are the top three goals

4749
03:09:22,399 --> 03:09:24,799
that you think sapd

4750
03:09:25,536 --> 03:09:25,903
should not have primary

4751
03:09:25,903 --> 03:09:27,903
responsibility?

4752
03:09:28,139 --> 03:09:30,574
And you see on the

4753
03:09:30,574 --> 03:09:32,944
screen, loud music, child

4754
03:09:32,944 --> 03:09:33,945
custody visitation

4755
03:09:33,945 --> 03:09:35,945
violations and fireworks.

4756
03:09:36,513 --> 03:09:38,315
Now, we also did a survey

4757
03:09:38,315 --> 03:09:39,316
through our sa speak up

4758
03:09:39,316 --> 03:09:40,684
platform to get some

4759
03:09:40,684 --> 03:09:43,840
ideas on what the

4760
03:09:43,353 --> 03:09:44,722
community wants to see on

4761
03:09:44,722 --> 03:09:46,323
our website and how they

4762
03:09:46,323 --> 03:09:48,693
want to get information

4763
03:09:48,693 --> 03:09:49,493
from sapd.

4764
03:09:49,493 --> 03:09:50,761
Not also from our

4765
03:09:50,761 --> 03:09:51,362
website, but also social

4766
03:09:51,362 --> 03:09:53,362
media outlets.

4767
03:09:53,397 --> 03:09:54,365
So what we heard that the

4768
03:09:54,365 --> 03:09:56,100
top three preferred

4769
03:09:56,100 --> 03:09:57,501
methods to get

4770
03:09:57,501 --> 03:09:58,802
information is the

4771
03:09:58,802 --> 03:10:00,304
website, text messages,

4772
03:10:00,304 --> 03:10:01,572
and the combination of

4773
03:10:01,572 --> 03:10:02,707
social media platforms.

4774
03:10:02,707 --> 03:10:04,208
They -- the information

4775
03:10:04,208 --> 03:10:06,443
that they would like to

4776
03:10:06,443 --> 03:10:07,978
receive or to have

4777
03:10:07,978 --> 03:10:10,114
included in our website

4778
03:10:10,114 --> 03:10:12,216
is an interactive crime

4779
03:10:12,216 --> 03:10:14,180
data map, realtime police

4780
03:10:14,180 --> 03:10:16,180
emergency text alerts,

4781
03:10:16,187 --> 03:10:18,880
and daily updates on

4782
03:10:18,880 --> 03:10:19,557
major public safety

4783
03:10:19,557 --> 03:10:20,324
incidents.

4784
03:10:20,324 --> 03:10:21,458
Additionally, the day

4785
03:10:21,458 --> 03:10:23,861
that they would like to

4786
03:10:23,861 --> 03:10:24,929
see included is a police

4787
03:10:24,929 --> 03:10:26,330
officer discipline

4788
03:10:26,330 --> 03:10:28,330
records, internal affairs

4789
03:10:28,733 --> 03:10:31,133
annual reports, and that

4790
03:10:31,135 --> 03:10:33,535
clearance rates for sapd,

4791
03:10:33,604 --> 03:10:34,672
which is the ratio of

4792
03:10:34,672 --> 03:10:36,340
arrests to known

4793
03:10:36,340 --> 03:10:37,842
offenses.

4794
03:10:37,842 --> 03:10:39,209
Now, our community health

4795
03:10:39,209 --> 03:10:41,212
and equity committee was

4796
03:10:41,212 --> 03:10:43,548
also charged with looking

4797
03:10:43,548 --> 03:10:45,149
at three areas by the

4798
03:10:45,149 --> 03:10:48,149
mayor, back in JUNE of

4799
03:10:48,219 --> 03:10:49,587
2020, and that included

4800
03:10:49,587 --> 03:10:50,821
mental health, gender and

4801
03:10:50,821 --> 03:10:52,821
racial equity.

4802
03:10:53,230 --> 03:10:54,459
So this is some of the

4803
03:10:54,459 --> 03:10:55,459
highlights of the

4804
03:10:55,459 --> 03:10:57,459
recommendations that we

4805
03:10:57,495 --> 03:10:58,496
received the public

4806
03:10:58,496 --> 03:10:59,564
safety committee received

4807
03:10:59,564 --> 03:11:00,698
from community health and

4808
03:11:00,698 --> 03:11:01,732
equity, so I'm just going

4809
03:11:01,732 --> 03:11:02,566
to highlight a few of

4810
03:11:02,566 --> 03:11:03,802
those.

4811
03:11:03,802 --> 03:11:05,370
So in terms of mental

4812
03:11:05,370 --> 03:11:06,637
health, the

4813
03:11:06,637 --> 03:11:08,637
recommendations are

4814
03:11:09,540 --> 03:11:10,675
aligned with our current

4815
03:11:10,675 --> 03:11:13,750
review of our response

4816
03:11:13,477 --> 03:11:15,313
model for mental health

4817
03:11:15,313 --> 03:11:17,148
calls, that is being done

4818
03:11:17,148 --> 03:11:18,917
by the meadows

4819
03:11:18,917 --> 03:11:20,551
foundation, and that

4820
03:11:20,551 --> 03:11:22,190
includes residents to

4821
03:11:22,190 --> 03:11:23,521
resources, exploring

4822
03:11:23,521 --> 03:11:25,521
integrating outreach

4823
03:11:25,957 --> 03:11:26,924
specialists like

4824
03:11:26,924 --> 03:11:28,226
promotorras, for example,

4825
03:11:28,226 --> 03:11:29,260
or other professionals to

4826
03:11:29,260 --> 03:11:30,761
those calls that police

4827
03:11:30,761 --> 03:11:31,729
officers respond to,

4828
03:11:31,729 --> 03:11:32,663
evaluating our current

4829
03:11:32,663 --> 03:11:33,998
mental health response,

4830
03:11:33,998 --> 03:11:36,267
and increasing our crisis

4831
03:11:36,267 --> 03:11:38,603
response team, 24 hours a

4832
03:11:38,603 --> 03:11:40,438
day, seven days a week.

4833
03:11:40,438 --> 03:11:41,973
In terms of racial

4834
03:11:41,973 --> 03:11:43,507
equity, examining the

4835
03:11:43,507 --> 03:11:45,507
benefits of engaging

4836
03:11:45,543 --> 03:11:45,977
residents versus

4837
03:11:45,977 --> 03:11:46,577
patrolling, which is

4838
03:11:46,577 --> 03:11:47,545
community policing

4839
03:11:47,545 --> 03:11:48,413
programs that we're

4840
03:11:48,413 --> 03:11:50,413
tackling within our

4841
03:11:51,115 --> 03:11:53,115
police services review,

4842
03:11:53,451 --> 03:11:55,530
and another example in

4843
03:11:55,530 --> 03:11:56,488
the area of gender, a

4844
03:11:56,488 --> 03:11:58,488
better understanding how

4845
03:12:00,491 --> 03:12:01,926
crimes against women in

4846
03:12:01,926 --> 03:12:03,828
lgbtq plus community are

4847
03:12:03,828 --> 03:12:06,828
handled and follow on and

4848
03:12:10,568 --> 03:12:11,736
resolved by sapd.

4849
03:12:11,736 --> 03:12:13,238
Now, in terms of the

4850
03:12:13,238 --> 03:12:13,671
framework for

4851
03:12:13,671 --> 03:12:14,672
recommendations, and

4852
03:12:14,672 --> 03:12:16,274
again, this is where we

4853
03:12:16,274 --> 03:12:17,976
want to get your input

4854
03:12:17,976 --> 03:12:18,709
before we develop final

4855
03:12:18,709 --> 03:12:20,709
recommendations as part

4856
03:12:20,979 --> 03:12:23,379
of the proposed budget,

4857
03:12:23,548 --> 03:12:23,915
so in the areas of mental

4858
03:12:23,915 --> 03:12:25,316
health, domestic

4859
03:12:25,316 --> 03:12:27,316
violence, and

4860
03:12:29,200 --> 03:12:30,287
homelessness, our

4861
03:12:30,287 --> 03:12:32,556
framework is anchor and a

4862
03:12:32,556 --> 03:12:33,424
team approach, not only

4863
03:12:33,424 --> 03:12:34,992
having the police officer

4864
03:12:34,992 --> 03:12:35,927
respond, but having the

4865
03:12:35,927 --> 03:12:37,795
combination of

4866
03:12:37,795 --> 03:12:38,529
professionals and

4867
03:12:38,529 --> 03:12:40,532
advocates, E.M.S., our

4868
03:12:40,532 --> 03:12:41,499
fire department, and the

4869
03:12:41,499 --> 03:12:42,834
police department, to

4870
03:12:42,834 --> 03:12:44,869
have on scene advocates

4871
03:12:44,869 --> 03:12:46,971
that are trained to deal

4872
03:12:46,971 --> 03:12:47,739
with difficulties and

4873
03:12:47,739 --> 03:12:49,874
complexities of the goals

4874
03:12:49,874 --> 03:12:50,408
related again to family

4875
03:12:50,408 --> 03:12:52,408
violence, mental health

4876
03:12:52,677 --> 03:12:53,778
and homelessness.

4877
03:12:53,778 --> 03:12:55,778
Crisis deescalation, and

4878
03:12:57,482 --> 03:12:59,184
then to have a warm

4879
03:12:59,184 --> 03:13:00,352
handup to services that

4880
03:13:00,352 --> 03:13:00,852
maintain that sustained

4881
03:13:00,852 --> 03:13:02,321
report.

4882
03:13:02,321 --> 03:13:03,821
So not only addressing

4883
03:13:03,821 --> 03:13:05,156
that 911 call, but

4884
03:13:05,156 --> 03:13:06,290
following up with the

4885
03:13:06,290 --> 03:13:07,692
victim, the children of

4886
03:13:07,692 --> 03:13:09,461
that household that

4887
03:13:09,461 --> 03:13:10,661
perhaps has a family

4888
03:13:10,661 --> 03:13:12,797
violence case, and also

4889
03:13:12,797 --> 03:13:14,797
with a perpetrator.

4890
03:13:15,100 --> 03:13:16,802
The work that the meadows

4891
03:13:16,802 --> 03:13:17,835
foundation is doing, they

4892
03:13:17,835 --> 03:13:20,380
did a lot of data

4893
03:13:20,380 --> 03:13:22,438
analysis, and tried to

4894
03:13:22,540 --> 03:13:23,708
identify where the calls

4895
03:13:23,708 --> 03:13:24,743
related to mental health

4896
03:13:24,743 --> 03:13:26,110
are coming within our

4897
03:13:26,110 --> 03:13:26,578
city, and what they

4898
03:13:26,578 --> 03:13:28,913
realized is that there

4899
03:13:28,913 --> 03:13:29,380
are a couple of zip

4900
03:13:29,380 --> 03:13:30,715
codes.

4901
03:13:30,715 --> 03:13:31,683
one is close to the

4902
03:13:31,683 --> 03:13:34,830
medical center area and

4903
03:13:34,118 --> 03:13:35,354
another one in our

4904
03:13:35,354 --> 03:13:36,388
downtown area will

4905
03:13:36,388 --> 03:13:37,122
generate most of the

4906
03:13:37,122 --> 03:13:38,890
calls.

4907
03:13:38,890 --> 03:13:39,240
We're continuing to find

4908
03:13:39,240 --> 03:13:40,558
out why we're getting

4909
03:13:40,558 --> 03:13:42,600
those calls, but one of

4910
03:13:42,600 --> 03:13:44,262
the ideas that we have at

4911
03:13:44,262 --> 03:13:45,730
this point is to pilot

4912
03:13:45,730 --> 03:13:46,898
this alternative response

4913
03:13:46,898 --> 03:13:47,432
within one police sub

4914
03:13:47,432 --> 03:13:49,367
station.

4915
03:13:49,367 --> 03:13:50,568
As I mentioned on mental

4916
03:13:50,568 --> 03:13:52,568
health, the

4917
03:13:53,639 --> 03:13:54,405
recommendations from the

4918
03:13:54,405 --> 03:13:55,740
meadows mental health

4919
03:13:55,740 --> 03:13:57,408
policy institute are

4920
03:13:57,408 --> 03:13:58,643
being finalized.

4921
03:13:58,643 --> 03:13:59,912
We -- those were

4922
03:13:59,912 --> 03:14:01,179
presented to community

4923
03:14:01,179 --> 03:14:02,680
health and equity a few

4924
03:14:02,680 --> 03:14:03,281
weeks ago, and the final

4925
03:14:03,281 --> 03:14:04,883
recommendations will come

4926
03:14:04,883 --> 03:14:06,180
to the public safety

4927
03:14:06,180 --> 03:14:08,418
committee in early AUGUST

4928
03:14:09,870 --> 03:14:11,657
and then to the final

4929
03:14:11,657 --> 03:14:12,258
council on AUGUST 12th.

4930
03:14:12,258 --> 03:14:13,158
Preliminary

4931
03:14:13,158 --> 03:14:14,759
recommendations focused

4932
03:14:14,759 --> 03:14:16,695
on a team-based response

4933
03:14:16,695 --> 03:14:17,629
with clinical expertise,

4934
03:14:17,629 --> 03:14:18,697
either on scene or

4935
03:14:18,697 --> 03:14:20,799
available by phone as we

4936
03:14:20,799 --> 03:14:22,367
have some technology now

4937
03:14:22,367 --> 03:14:23,168
that has been introduced

4938
03:14:23,168 --> 03:14:26,168
by our fire department to

4939
03:14:26,571 --> 03:14:28,306
be able to do that via

4940
03:14:28,306 --> 03:14:29,441
phone.

4941
03:14:29,441 --> 03:14:30,509
Domestic violence, the

4942
03:14:30,509 --> 03:14:32,110
framework that we are

4943
03:14:32,110 --> 03:14:34,110
currently reviewing is

4944
03:14:35,714 --> 03:14:36,981
also and on-scene

4945
03:14:36,981 --> 03:14:38,516
team-basis crisis triage

4946
03:14:38,516 --> 03:14:39,351
with links to long-term

4947
03:14:39,351 --> 03:14:41,186
intervention and

4948
03:14:41,186 --> 03:14:42,121
services.

4949
03:14:42,121 --> 03:14:44,560
And COUNCILWOMAN Viagran,

4950
03:14:44,560 --> 03:14:44,590
to your point, not only

4951
03:14:44,590 --> 03:14:46,358
addressing the call at

4952
03:14:46,358 --> 03:14:47,726
the time, but how can we

4953
03:14:47,726 --> 03:14:49,694
help that family and that

4954
03:14:49,694 --> 03:14:51,196
victim long-term?

4955
03:14:51,196 --> 03:14:52,731
In the area of

4956
03:14:52,731 --> 03:14:54,366
homelessness, our

4957
03:14:54,366 --> 03:14:56,101
framework focuses on our

4958
03:14:56,101 --> 03:14:57,469
strategic plan, enhancing

4959
03:14:57,469 --> 03:14:58,704
our provision and

4960
03:14:58,704 --> 03:14:59,838
diversion programs,

4961
03:14:59,838 --> 03:15:01,838
increasing our outreach

4962
03:15:02,400 --> 03:15:04,142
and capacity, and also

4963
03:15:04,142 --> 03:15:05,443
rotating our mobile

4964
03:15:05,443 --> 03:15:07,312
homeless hub.

4965
03:15:07,312 --> 03:15:09,480
Now, in addition to those

4966
03:15:09,480 --> 03:15:11,450
three areas that the city

4967
03:15:11,450 --> 03:15:14,860
manager had laid out and

4968
03:15:14,860 --> 03:15:15,387
his initial framework, we

4969
03:15:15,387 --> 03:15:16,154
are also our framework

4970
03:15:16,154 --> 03:15:18,560
includes improvements to

4971
03:15:18,560 --> 03:15:20,759
our website in terms of

4972
03:15:20,759 --> 03:15:21,827
transparency and data,

4973
03:15:21,827 --> 03:15:23,495
enhancing the website

4974
03:15:23,495 --> 03:15:25,495
more interactive data

4975
03:15:25,664 --> 03:15:26,598
tools, as well as

4976
03:15:26,598 --> 03:15:28,598
segregating data within

4977
03:15:28,634 --> 03:15:30,202
our existing reports.

4978
03:15:30,202 --> 03:15:31,103
In the case of

4979
03:15:31,103 --> 03:15:32,300
alternative response, in

4980
03:15:32,300 --> 03:15:33,638
addition to those goals

4981
03:15:33,638 --> 03:15:35,207
that I mentioned, and

4982
03:15:35,207 --> 03:15:35,907
I'll give you an example

4983
03:15:35,907 --> 03:15:36,775
when I met with our

4984
03:15:36,775 --> 03:15:38,177
police officers and asked

4985
03:15:38,177 --> 03:15:40,278
them what they thought,

4986
03:15:40,278 --> 03:15:40,946
which kind of calls

4987
03:15:40,946 --> 03:15:42,648
perhaps our police

4988
03:15:42,648 --> 03:15:43,582
officers shouldn't be

4989
03:15:43,582 --> 03:15:45,982
addressing, in an example

4990
03:15:46,418 --> 03:15:47,486
they gave me, is for

4991
03:15:47,486 --> 03:15:48,954
instance, if I find a

4992
03:15:48,954 --> 03:15:50,989
bicycle in my front yard,

4993
03:15:50,989 --> 03:15:52,891
I call 911, and we send a

4994
03:15:52,891 --> 03:15:53,625
police officer to make a

4995
03:15:53,625 --> 03:15:54,760
report, pick up that

4996
03:15:54,760 --> 03:15:57,160
bike, and bring it

4997
03:15:57,763 --> 03:15:57,963
downtown to our property

4998
03:15:57,963 --> 03:15:58,464
room.

4999
03:15:58,464 --> 03:15:59,865
So probably not the best

5000
03:15:59,865 --> 03:16:00,532
use of our police

5001
03:16:00,532 --> 03:16:01,634
officers.

5002
03:16:01,634 --> 03:16:03,350
So based on that feedback

5003
03:16:03,350 --> 03:16:04,102
that they provided to us,

5004
03:16:04,102 --> 03:16:04,903
we're going to be

5005
03:16:04,903 --> 03:16:06,639
evaluating those calls

5006
03:16:06,639 --> 03:16:08,908
and see perhaps a

5007
03:16:08,908 --> 03:16:10,342
civilian can handle it.

5008
03:16:10,342 --> 03:16:11,276
And of course, as long as

5009
03:16:11,276 --> 03:16:13,276
there's no evidence

5010
03:16:13,745 --> 03:16:14,880
related to a crime;

5011
03:16:14,880 --> 03:16:15,981
otherwise we have to send

5012
03:16:15,981 --> 03:16:16,715
a police officer, but

5013
03:16:16,715 --> 03:16:17,916
we'll be exploring that

5014
03:16:17,916 --> 03:16:19,651
in the month of JULY.

5015
03:16:19,651 --> 03:16:21,651
And finally, enhancing

5016
03:16:22,254 --> 03:16:24,220
our relationships with

5017
03:16:24,220 --> 03:16:25,991
the community, because of

5018
03:16:25,991 --> 03:16:27,660
covid, we put on hold a

5019
03:16:27,660 --> 03:16:28,527
lot of our programs that

5020
03:16:28,527 --> 03:16:30,620
the police department has

5021
03:16:30,620 --> 03:16:31,330
with our community.

5022
03:16:31,330 --> 03:16:32,698
Those started again in

5023
03:16:32,698 --> 03:16:33,299
the month of JUNE, but

5024
03:16:33,299 --> 03:16:35,000
we're going to be

5025
03:16:35,000 --> 03:16:36,735
exploring ways to enhance

5026
03:16:36,735 --> 03:16:38,170
our safe program, and

5027
03:16:38,170 --> 03:16:40,380
also educate the

5028
03:16:40,380 --> 03:16:41,540
community about our

5029
03:16:41,540 --> 03:16:42,475
existing programs, say

5030
03:16:42,475 --> 03:16:43,843
for example, I think some

5031
03:16:43,843 --> 03:16:46,243
of our community members,

5032
03:16:47,460 --> 03:16:49,446
some of your constituents

5033
03:16:50,480 --> 03:16:50,650
want to call the safe

5034
03:16:50,650 --> 03:16:52,618
police officer when

5035
03:16:52,618 --> 03:16:53,853
there's a code issue, an

5036
03:16:53,853 --> 03:16:55,120
animal-related issue, so

5037
03:16:55,120 --> 03:16:56,355
we, the city, need to do

5038
03:16:56,355 --> 03:16:57,423
a better job in letting

5039
03:16:57,423 --> 03:16:59,823
our community know for

5040
03:17:01,293 --> 03:17:02,795
that type of call, call

5041
03:17:02,795 --> 03:17:03,196
3-1-1, or these are other

5042
03:17:03,196 --> 03:17:03,696
resources we have

5043
03:17:03,696 --> 03:17:04,229
available outside the

5044
03:17:04,229 --> 03:17:05,865
police department.

5045
03:17:05,865 --> 03:17:07,299
So next steps in this

5046
03:17:07,299 --> 03:17:08,300
process, we are going to

5047
03:17:08,300 --> 03:17:09,101
be preparing

5048
03:17:09,101 --> 03:17:10,369
recommendations in the

5049
03:17:10,369 --> 03:17:12,171
month of JULY.

5050
03:17:12,171 --> 03:17:13,705
We go back to our public

5051
03:17:13,705 --> 03:17:15,705
safety committee on

5052
03:17:16,208 --> 03:17:17,430
AUGUST 2nd to provide the

5053
03:17:17,430 --> 03:17:17,843
draft final

5054
03:17:17,843 --> 03:17:19,244
recommendations and get

5055
03:17:19,244 --> 03:17:20,980
their feedback and then

5056
03:17:20,980 --> 03:17:21,947
the city manager will

5057
03:17:21,947 --> 03:17:22,715
include the final

5058
03:17:22,715 --> 03:17:24,490
recommendations within

5059
03:17:24,490 --> 03:17:25,500
the -- within his

5060
03:17:25,500 --> 03:17:26,586
proposed budget and

5061
03:17:26,586 --> 03:17:27,853
present it to the council

5062
03:17:27,853 --> 03:17:28,821
on AUGUST 12th.

5063
03:17:28,821 --> 03:17:29,889
We will have an

5064
03:17:29,889 --> 03:17:31,889
opportunity for the

5065
03:17:32,291 --> 03:17:33,590
council to look at the

5066
03:17:33,590 --> 03:17:33,525
recommendations in

5067
03:17:33,525 --> 03:17:35,525
detail, an opportunity

5068
03:17:35,661 --> 03:17:37,863
for a community to

5069
03:17:37,863 --> 03:17:38,965
participate and give us

5070
03:17:38,965 --> 03:17:39,966
input before budget

5071
03:17:39,966 --> 03:17:41,267
adoption on

5072
03:17:41,267 --> 03:17:42,835
SEPTEMBER 16th.

5073
03:17:42,835 --> 03:17:44,537
So mayor, that concludes

5074
03:17:44,537 --> 03:17:46,390
my presentation, and

5075
03:17:46,390 --> 03:17:48,975
we'll be happy to take

5076
03:17:48,975 --> 03:17:50,376
any questions.

5077
03:17:50,376 --> 03:17:51,430
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5078
03:17:51,430 --> 03:17:53,313
great, thank you very

5079
03:17:53,313 --> 03:17:55,214
much, maria, and this is

5080
03:17:55,214 --> 03:17:56,315
a great overview of the

5081
03:17:56,315 --> 03:17:57,283
process that y'all have

5082
03:17:57,283 --> 03:17:59,683
been going through for

5083
03:18:00,452 --> 03:18:01,554
the last several months,

5084
03:18:01,554 --> 03:18:03,455
and I assume we will be

5085
03:18:03,455 --> 03:18:05,591
able to get into a little

5086
03:18:05,591 --> 03:18:06,692
bit more depth on the

5087
03:18:06,692 --> 03:18:07,427
alternative responses and

5088
03:18:07,427 --> 03:18:08,861
what's going to be part

5089
03:18:08,861 --> 03:18:11,861
of the pilot, what is

5090
03:18:12,631 --> 03:18:13,199
going to be adopted

5091
03:18:13,199 --> 03:18:14,834
departmentwide.

5092
03:18:14,834 --> 03:18:15,502
Are all the alternative

5093
03:18:15,502 --> 03:18:17,103
responses right now going

5094
03:18:17,103 --> 03:18:19,710
to be piloted through a

5095
03:18:19,710 --> 03:18:21,400
single sub station or

5096
03:18:21,400 --> 03:18:22,800
some that are going to

5097
03:18:22,800 --> 03:18:23,576
automatically be more

5098
03:18:23,576 --> 03:18:25,444
widely adopted.

5099
03:18:25,444 --> 03:18:27,444
>> so right now

5100
03:18:27,647 --> 03:18:28,314
specifically for mental

5101
03:18:28,314 --> 03:18:29,982
health, domestic

5102
03:18:29,982 --> 03:18:31,584
violence, and

5103
03:18:31,584 --> 03:18:32,351
homelessness, our

5104
03:18:32,351 --> 03:18:33,954
preliminary thoughts is

5105
03:18:33,954 --> 03:18:35,354
to focus in one sub

5106
03:18:35,354 --> 03:18:37,890
station, to see if our

5107
03:18:37,890 --> 03:18:39,159
new way of handling this

5108
03:18:39,159 --> 03:18:40,293
goals is going to work,

5109
03:18:40,293 --> 03:18:42,262
be able to measure it,

5110
03:18:42,262 --> 03:18:42,896
before we expand it

5111
03:18:42,896 --> 03:18:43,796
citywide.

5112
03:18:43,796 --> 03:18:44,864
Those are alternatives

5113
03:18:44,864 --> 03:18:46,864
that I mentioned.

5114
03:18:47,233 --> 03:18:47,867
We MAY be able do those

5115
03:18:47,867 --> 03:18:49,867
citywide, like for

5116
03:18:50,669 --> 03:18:52,972
example, picking up found

5117
03:18:52,972 --> 03:18:53,607
property on private

5118
03:18:53,607 --> 03:18:54,400
property.

5119
03:18:54,400 --> 03:18:54,240
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5120
03:18:54,240 --> 03:18:55,741
okay.

5121
03:18:55,741 --> 03:18:57,309
Do we have any of the

5122
03:18:57,309 --> 03:18:58,845
crime statistics so far

5123
03:18:58,845 --> 03:19:00,279
through the duration of

5124
03:19:00,279 --> 03:19:01,447
the year?

5125
03:19:01,447 --> 03:19:03,447
>> we do.

5126
03:19:08,321 --> 03:19:09,856
I don't have a slide to

5127
03:19:09,856 --> 03:19:10,289
put on the screen, but we

5128
03:19:10,289 --> 03:19:11,591
do.

5129
03:19:11,591 --> 03:19:13,260
So just overall, our

5130
03:19:13,260 --> 03:19:13,760
crime is down for the

5131
03:19:13,760 --> 03:19:16,160
first -- through the

5132
03:19:17,363 --> 03:19:18,264
month of APRIL, calendar

5133
03:19:18,264 --> 03:19:18,765
year 2021 compared to

5134
03:19:18,765 --> 03:19:20,765
2020.

5135
03:19:21,301 --> 03:19:22,669
So overall, crime is

5136
03:19:22,669 --> 03:19:25,405
down, and I'll be happy

5137
03:19:25,405 --> 03:19:26,672
to get those statistics,

5138
03:19:26,672 --> 03:19:27,974
maybe after a break.

5139
03:19:27,974 --> 03:19:28,408
We do have them with us.

5140
03:19:28,408 --> 03:19:28,842
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5141
03:19:28,842 --> 03:19:30,842
okay.

5142
03:19:31,111 --> 03:19:32,812
You know, talking with my

5143
03:19:32,812 --> 03:19:34,614
peers in the bigger

5144
03:19:34,614 --> 03:19:36,482
cities, there's a very

5145
03:19:36,482 --> 03:19:38,882
serious surge of violent

5146
03:19:39,753 --> 03:19:40,419
crime, gun violence

5147
03:19:40,419 --> 03:19:42,419
anticipated as a

5148
03:19:43,556 --> 03:19:44,591
result -- or as we've

5149
03:19:44,591 --> 03:19:45,325
started to emerge from

5150
03:19:45,325 --> 03:19:46,759
the pandemic.

5151
03:19:46,759 --> 03:19:49,362
i'm curious as to where

5152
03:19:49,362 --> 03:19:51,762
we are relative to

5153
03:19:51,998 --> 03:19:53,200
those -- to those cities.

5154
03:19:53,200 --> 03:19:54,467
Not quite clear on what

5155
03:19:54,467 --> 03:19:56,867
the trends are with

5156
03:19:56,903 --> 03:19:57,470
property crimes, but I

5157
03:19:57,470 --> 03:19:58,838
would also be interested

5158
03:19:58,838 --> 03:19:59,339
in seeing how we're doing

5159
03:19:59,339 --> 03:20:00,540
there.

5160
03:20:00,540 --> 03:20:02,843
I will say I've spent

5161
03:20:02,843 --> 03:20:04,278
some time with stand up

5162
03:20:04,278 --> 03:20:06,279
sa, and the work that's

5163
03:20:06,279 --> 03:20:07,981
being done with violence

5164
03:20:07,981 --> 03:20:08,815
prevention cure, the cure

5165
03:20:08,815 --> 03:20:09,850
violence model, and

5166
03:20:09,850 --> 03:20:10,784
what's going on with

5167
03:20:10,784 --> 03:20:11,551
violence disruption in

5168
03:20:11,551 --> 03:20:12,819
the neighborhoods.

5169
03:20:12,819 --> 03:20:14,187
I've been very impressed,

5170
03:20:14,187 --> 03:20:16,222
so I hope that part of

5171
03:20:16,222 --> 03:20:17,991
our plan, whether that's

5172
03:20:17,991 --> 03:20:18,858
within the violence

5173
03:20:18,858 --> 03:20:19,926
prevention division or

5174
03:20:19,926 --> 03:20:20,827
within policing

5175
03:20:20,827 --> 03:20:21,527
resources, that we're

5176
03:20:21,527 --> 03:20:23,263
continuing to augment

5177
03:20:23,263 --> 03:20:24,698
that and expand it to the

5178
03:20:24,698 --> 03:20:25,999
extent that we can.

5179
03:20:25,999 --> 03:20:27,501
The one update I would

5180
03:20:27,501 --> 03:20:28,368
like to have, and I heard

5181
03:20:28,368 --> 03:20:29,936
this quite a bit, there

5182
03:20:29,936 --> 03:20:31,171
are certain hotspots that

5183
03:20:31,171 --> 03:20:31,805
we continue to see in our

5184
03:20:31,805 --> 03:20:33,740
city.

5185
03:20:33,740 --> 03:20:35,908
One of them is over by

5186
03:20:35,908 --> 03:20:38,308
the strip, in district 1,

5187
03:20:38,778 --> 03:20:39,713
and so is there an update

5188
03:20:39,713 --> 03:20:40,713
on -- I don't remember

5189
03:20:40,713 --> 03:20:42,783
what the program was

5190
03:20:42,783 --> 03:20:43,583
called, but it was about

5191
03:20:43,583 --> 03:20:45,583
foe

5192
03:20:46,186 --> 03:20:46,953
focusing on specific

5193
03:20:46,953 --> 03:20:49,220
nighttime active areas to

5194
03:20:49,220 --> 03:20:50,890
make sure that we have

5195
03:20:50,890 --> 03:20:51,925
the proper visibility and

5196
03:20:51,925 --> 03:20:52,959
patrols happening, and

5197
03:20:52,959 --> 03:20:54,861
are we seeing any results

5198
03:20:54,861 --> 03:20:56,529
from that?

5199
03:20:56,529 --> 03:20:58,331
>> I think we're seeing

5200
03:20:58,331 --> 03:20:58,766
more results from

5201
03:20:58,766 --> 03:20:59,432
satisfaction of the

5202
03:20:59,432 --> 03:21:01,401
community.

5203
03:21:01,401 --> 03:21:03,401
We talked specifically

5204
03:21:04,371 --> 03:21:05,380
about the north st.

5205
03:21:05,380 --> 03:21:06,473
Mary's strip.

5206
03:21:06,473 --> 03:21:08,976
We actually -- most of

5207
03:21:08,976 --> 03:21:10,110
what we're seeing up

5208
03:21:10,110 --> 03:21:11,544
there are order

5209
03:21:11,544 --> 03:21:12,679
maintenance type issues

5210
03:21:12,679 --> 03:21:14,948
after the bars close,

5211
03:21:14,948 --> 03:21:16,950
after the food trucks are

5212
03:21:16,950 --> 03:21:18,284
done vending.

5213
03:21:18,284 --> 03:21:20,387
People are wandering back

5214
03:21:20,387 --> 03:21:22,787
into the neighborhood --

5215
03:21:24,291 --> 03:21:25,292
neighborhoods and causing

5216
03:21:25,292 --> 03:21:26,593
disturbances everything

5217
03:21:26,593 --> 03:21:28,362
from urinating in public

5218
03:21:28,362 --> 03:21:31,665
to sex acts, you know, in

5219
03:21:31,665 --> 03:21:32,866
between parked cars.

5220
03:21:32,866 --> 03:21:34,670
Loud noise.

5221
03:21:34,670 --> 03:21:36,336
That's what the neighbors

5222
03:21:36,336 --> 03:21:37,504
are upset about.

5223
03:21:37,504 --> 03:21:39,306
Some -- occasionally

5224
03:21:39,306 --> 03:21:40,507
they're hearing gunshots,

5225
03:21:40,507 --> 03:21:42,907
nobody being shot, but

5226
03:21:44,311 --> 03:21:46,460
people just firing guns.

5227
03:21:46,460 --> 03:21:48,446
We've got street crimes

5228
03:21:48,548 --> 03:21:49,449
working in those areas,

5229
03:21:49,449 --> 03:21:51,449
thursday, friday,

5230
03:21:51,518 --> 03:21:53,518
saturday nights.

5231
03:22:00,193 --> 03:22:01,428
We received some fairly

5232
03:22:01,428 --> 03:22:02,696
positive feedback from

5233
03:22:02,696 --> 03:22:03,564
the community back there

5234
03:22:03,564 --> 03:22:05,650
about that coverage

5235
03:22:05,650 --> 03:22:05,632
during those notes, we'll

5236
03:22:05,632 --> 03:22:07,267
continue that until we

5237
03:22:07,267 --> 03:22:08,335
come up with some other

5238
03:22:08,335 --> 03:22:08,903
alternatives.

5239
03:22:08,903 --> 03:22:10,137
Putting street crimes up

5240
03:22:10,137 --> 03:22:11,238
there is not to answer to

5241
03:22:11,238 --> 03:22:13,700
those issues.

5242
03:22:13,700 --> 03:22:14,508
We've got, you know, two

5243
03:22:14,508 --> 03:22:16,508
worlds colonel

5244
03:22:18,878 --> 03:22:19,746
colliding with the

5245
03:22:19,746 --> 03:22:20,747
bars and the clubs and

5246
03:22:20,747 --> 03:22:21,820
the residential

5247
03:22:21,820 --> 03:22:23,820
neighborhood.

5248
03:22:26,920 --> 03:22:29,423
That's an issue, and I

5249
03:22:29,423 --> 03:22:31,459
don't know if we've come

5250
03:22:31,459 --> 03:22:32,493
to any decision on what

5251
03:22:32,493 --> 03:22:32,993
the best solution is for

5252
03:22:32,993 --> 03:22:34,495
that.

5253
03:22:34,495 --> 03:22:35,796
We're working with the

5254
03:22:35,796 --> 03:22:36,563
councilmember in that

5255
03:22:36,563 --> 03:22:38,431
regard, right now I think

5256
03:22:38,431 --> 03:22:39,833
we've got a handle on it,

5257
03:22:39,833 --> 03:22:40,300
at least temporarily.

5258
03:22:40,300 --> 03:22:41,168
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5259
03:22:41,168 --> 03:22:42,603
thank you, chief.

5260
03:22:42,603 --> 03:22:43,137
One question while you're

5261
03:22:43,137 --> 03:22:45,137
up here.

5262
03:22:45,640 --> 03:22:46,473
Where are we with the

5263
03:22:46,473 --> 03:22:47,207
recommendations that

5264
03:22:47,207 --> 03:22:48,709
department professionals

5265
03:22:48,709 --> 03:22:51,109
have with respect to

5266
03:22:51,545 --> 03:22:51,745
vacancies going into

5267
03:22:51,745 --> 03:22:53,745
fy22.

5268
03:22:53,881 --> 03:22:54,214
>> with respect to

5269
03:22:54,214 --> 03:22:54,648
vacancies?

5270
03:22:54,648 --> 03:22:55,415
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5271
03:22:55,415 --> 03:22:56,650
right.

5272
03:22:56,650 --> 03:22:59,190
Are we where we need to

5273
03:22:59,190 --> 03:22:59,286
be with uniform

5274
03:22:59,286 --> 03:23:00,854
positions?

5275
03:23:00,854 --> 03:23:01,455
>> we continue to fill

5276
03:23:01,455 --> 03:23:03,455
our academy classes.

5277
03:23:03,857 --> 03:23:05,260
We have one starting in

5278
03:23:05,260 --> 03:23:07,695
JULY, but we have not had

5279
03:23:07,695 --> 03:23:08,629
a vacancy issue for quite

5280
03:23:08,629 --> 03:23:10,664
a few years now.

5281
03:23:10,664 --> 03:23:12,266
No problem filling --

5282
03:23:12,266 --> 03:23:12,533
filling those academy

5283
03:23:12,533 --> 03:23:12,967
classes.

5284
03:23:12,967 --> 03:23:14,967
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5285
03:23:16,203 --> 03:23:16,403
okay.

5286
03:23:16,403 --> 03:23:18,403
Great.

5287
03:23:18,739 --> 03:23:19,807
>> I'll just -- really,

5288
03:23:19,807 --> 03:23:21,274
it's been for the last

5289
03:23:21,274 --> 03:23:23,510
year, because it took us

5290
03:23:23,510 --> 03:23:25,379
awhile to get out of the

5291
03:23:25,379 --> 03:23:28,979
hole we were in in terms

5292
03:23:31,385 --> 03:23:33,921
of vacancies, so back in

5293
03:23:33,921 --> 03:23:35,921
2016, 2017, classes were

5294
03:23:36,123 --> 03:23:37,158
delayed, and I'll remind

5295
03:23:37,158 --> 03:23:38,426
the councilmembers that

5296
03:23:38,426 --> 03:23:39,359
were here, we had to make

5297
03:23:39,359 --> 03:23:40,694
a deliberate attempt to

5298
03:23:40,694 --> 03:23:42,163
try to get out, we got

5299
03:23:42,163 --> 03:23:45,990
over the -- we were

5300
03:23:45,990 --> 03:23:46,266
actually overhired last

5301
03:23:46,266 --> 03:23:47,435
summer. I think as it

5302
03:23:47,435 --> 03:23:49,835
stands right now, we're

5303
03:23:50,304 --> 03:23:50,571
at either 18 or 19

5304
03:23:50,571 --> 03:23:51,905
vacancies.

5305
03:23:51,905 --> 03:23:52,573
>> 18 vacancies.

5306
03:23:52,573 --> 03:23:54,800
>> and we have two

5307
03:23:54,800 --> 03:23:55,209
classes in the academy, a

5308
03:23:55,209 --> 03:23:57,277
third one starting in the

5309
03:23:57,277 --> 03:23:58,780
summer, so frankly, both

5310
03:23:58,780 --> 03:24:00,780
departments -- both

5311
03:24:00,848 --> 03:24:02,516
police and fire, our mode

5312
03:24:02,516 --> 03:24:03,650
of operation is to stay

5313
03:24:03,650 --> 03:24:04,618
ahead of the curve

5314
03:24:04,618 --> 03:24:07,321
because I think we all

5315
03:24:07,321 --> 03:24:08,356
learned in 2016-2017, we

5316
03:24:08,356 --> 03:24:09,890
start falling behind in

5317
03:24:09,890 --> 03:24:11,492
those areas, it take as

5318
03:24:11,492 --> 03:24:11,759
long time to get out of

5319
03:24:11,759 --> 03:24:12,259
the hole.

5320
03:24:12,259 --> 03:24:13,961
>> Mayor Nirenberg: and

5321
03:24:13,961 --> 03:24:14,795
we will have a department

5322
03:24:14,795 --> 03:24:16,430
briefing and we don't

5323
03:24:16,430 --> 03:24:18,166
have the actual budget

5324
03:24:18,166 --> 03:24:19,567
numbers, but with respect

5325
03:24:19,567 --> 03:24:22,567
to growth, the budget, is

5326
03:24:22,770 --> 03:24:23,571
it in line with our

5327
03:24:23,571 --> 03:24:24,738
overall budget growth?

5328
03:24:24,738 --> 03:24:26,390
>> mayor, that is part of

5329
03:24:26,390 --> 03:24:27,875
the detailed work we'll

5330
03:24:27,875 --> 03:24:28,876
do in JULY, but it likely

5331
03:24:28,876 --> 03:24:30,876
will be.

5332
03:24:31,412 --> 03:24:33,214
We have not finalized

5333
03:24:33,214 --> 03:24:35,150
obviously an agreement

5334
03:24:35,150 --> 03:24:35,917
with the police officer's

5335
03:24:35,917 --> 03:24:36,817
association.

5336
03:24:36,817 --> 03:24:38,817
Our financial position

5337
03:24:38,886 --> 03:24:41,540
right now, included with

5338
03:24:41,540 --> 03:24:42,230
the trial budget and the

5339
03:24:42,230 --> 03:24:43,230
forecast, we included

5340
03:24:43,230 --> 03:24:44,892
what we offered the

5341
03:24:44,892 --> 03:24:45,693
police officer's

5342
03:24:45,693 --> 03:24:47,693
association, which was

5343
03:24:48,196 --> 03:24:49,731
zero in 2022, and then

5344
03:24:49,731 --> 03:24:51,799
there will be other

5345
03:24:51,799 --> 03:24:52,967
operational adjustments,

5346
03:24:52,967 --> 03:24:54,335
but I suspect it will be

5347
03:24:54,335 --> 03:24:56,700
very much in line if not

5348
03:24:56,700 --> 03:24:58,405
below the overall budget.

5349
03:24:58,405 --> 03:24:58,806
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5350
03:24:58,806 --> 03:24:59,941
thank, erik.

5351
03:24:59,941 --> 03:25:01,542
thank you, chief.

5352
03:25:01,542 --> 03:25:03,744
>> mayor, I can comment

5353
03:25:03,744 --> 03:25:04,545
on the crime numbers if

5354
03:25:04,545 --> 03:25:04,979
you --

5355
03:25:04,979 --> 03:25:05,947
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5356
03:25:05,947 --> 03:25:06,647
sure, if you have them.

5357
03:25:06,647 --> 03:25:08,150
We're looking at the

5358
03:25:08,150 --> 03:25:09,316
stats that are officially

5359
03:25:09,316 --> 03:25:10,418
recognized by the F.B.I.,

5360
03:25:10,418 --> 03:25:11,318
that we report to the

5361
03:25:11,318 --> 03:25:12,287
F.B.I.

5362
03:25:12,287 --> 03:25:13,321
These are official, but

5363
03:25:13,321 --> 03:25:14,388
they're not official

5364
03:25:14,388 --> 03:25:16,524
until they're verified by

5365
03:25:16,524 --> 03:25:18,250
the F.B.I., not verified,

5366
03:25:18,250 --> 03:25:21,620
but blessed by the F.B.I.

5367
03:25:21,620 --> 03:25:22,363
So for the first four

5368
03:25:22,363 --> 03:25:22,931
months, for the first

5369
03:25:22,931 --> 03:25:23,798
three months, for the

5370
03:25:23,798 --> 03:25:24,999
first quarter of this

5371
03:25:24,999 --> 03:25:26,100
year, we have a drop in

5372
03:25:26,100 --> 03:25:27,501
violent crime, and that

5373
03:25:27,501 --> 03:25:29,270
is homicide, robbery,

5374
03:25:29,270 --> 03:25:30,138
rape and assault,

5375
03:25:30,138 --> 03:25:32,138
aggravated assault.

5376
03:25:35,510 --> 03:25:36,677
Those numbers are down

5377
03:25:36,677 --> 03:25:38,677
14.8%.

5378
03:25:41,349 --> 03:25:43,349
6% drop in homicide, 34%

5379
03:25:43,417 --> 03:25:45,190
drop in rape.

5380
03:25:45,190 --> 03:25:47,190
39% drop in robbery.

5381
03:25:47,655 --> 03:25:48,322
And assault is about 3%

5382
03:25:48,322 --> 03:25:49,590
for 14.8.

5383
03:25:49,590 --> 03:25:51,158
And in property, we're

5384
03:25:51,158 --> 03:25:52,160
looking at burglary,

5385
03:25:52,160 --> 03:25:52,494
larceny, and vehicle

5386
03:25:52,494 --> 03:25:54,494
theft.

5387
03:25:54,929 --> 03:25:55,930
We have decreases in

5388
03:25:55,930 --> 03:25:59,530
all -- two of those --

5389
03:25:59,634 --> 03:26:02,340
two out of three.

5390
03:26:03,204 --> 03:26:04,739
Burglary were down 28%,

5391
03:26:04,739 --> 03:26:06,400
larceny, 13.8, and

5392
03:26:06,400 --> 03:26:07,375
vehicle theft is the only

5393
03:26:07,375 --> 03:26:08,109
category that is up by

5394
03:26:08,109 --> 03:26:10,109
3%.

5395
03:26:10,578 --> 03:26:12,130
So there's a drop of

5396
03:26:12,130 --> 03:26:14,130
13.8% there.

5397
03:26:14,249 --> 03:26:16,284
So we're down both

5398
03:26:16,284 --> 03:26:18,284
categories around 14%,

5399
03:26:18,453 --> 03:26:19,654
and that actually has

5400
03:26:19,654 --> 03:26:20,888
extended through MAY of

5401
03:26:20,888 --> 03:26:21,522
this year as well.

5402
03:26:21,522 --> 03:26:23,258
>> Mayor Nirenberg: so

5403
03:26:23,258 --> 03:26:26,194
that is year over year,

5404
03:26:26,194 --> 03:26:26,361
first quarter or through

5405
03:26:26,361 --> 03:26:28,361
MAY?

5406
03:26:28,463 --> 03:26:30,310
>> threw MAY.

5407
03:26:30,310 --> 03:26:31,233
That's first quarter, but

5408
03:26:31,233 --> 03:26:32,534
those numbers have been

5409
03:26:32,534 --> 03:26:32,700
pretty consistent through

5410
03:26:32,700 --> 03:26:33,201
MAY.

5411
03:26:33,201 --> 03:26:33,735
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5412
03:26:33,735 --> 03:26:35,735
okay.

5413
03:26:36,270 --> 03:26:36,705
Year over year stats?

5414
03:26:36,705 --> 03:26:37,439
That's good.

5415
03:26:37,439 --> 03:26:38,600
Very good.

5416
03:26:38,600 --> 03:26:39,600
Let's get into

5417
03:26:39,600 --> 03:26:40,542
discussion.

5418
03:26:40,542 --> 03:26:42,942
Go to councilmember bravo

5419
03:26:43,411 --> 03:26:43,878
and I've got 10 and 3.

5420
03:26:43,878 --> 03:26:44,512
>> Bravo: thank you

5421
03:26:44,512 --> 03:26:46,130
very much.

5422
03:26:46,130 --> 03:26:47,315
I'm going to go off topic

5423
03:26:47,315 --> 03:26:48,449
just briefly, because I

5424
03:26:48,449 --> 03:26:49,851
want to acknowledge a

5425
03:26:49,851 --> 03:26:50,584
bunch of representatives

5426
03:26:50,584 --> 03:26:52,530
of the cycling community

5427
03:26:52,530 --> 03:26:53,121
that just arrived here

5428
03:26:53,121 --> 03:26:55,521
today to advocate for,

5429
03:26:56,190 --> 03:26:57,959
you know, a safer city

5430
03:26:57,959 --> 03:27:00,359
for cyclists, and for

5431
03:27:00,929 --> 03:27:02,263
more protected bike lanes

5432
03:27:02,263 --> 03:27:04,263
and more connectivity

5433
03:27:06,100 --> 03:27:09,100
here, so I appreciate you

5434
03:27:10,905 --> 03:27:12,240
all coming out just to.

5435
03:27:12,240 --> 03:27:12,474
>> we don't have public

5436
03:27:12,474 --> 03:27:13,375
comment.

5437
03:27:13,375 --> 03:27:14,542
>> we have children,

5438
03:27:14,542 --> 03:27:15,510
we're going to make a

5439
03:27:15,510 --> 03:27:16,812
quick statement --

5440
03:27:16,812 --> 03:27:17,412
>> Bravo: I was not --

5441
03:27:17,412 --> 03:27:18,146
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5442
03:27:18,146 --> 03:27:19,680
we're going to stay --

5443
03:27:19,680 --> 03:27:20,615
>> sorry, guys, I'll get

5444
03:27:20,615 --> 03:27:21,983
away from the podium.

5445
03:27:21,983 --> 03:27:24,983
Thank you so much, ron,

5446
03:27:25,720 --> 03:27:26,255
thank you so much,

5447
03:27:26,255 --> 03:27:26,487
everybody, for doing what

5448
03:27:26,487 --> 03:27:26,922
you do.

5449
03:27:26,922 --> 03:27:27,389
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5450
03:27:27,389 --> 03:27:27,588
appreciate y'all being

5451
03:27:27,588 --> 03:27:29,900
here.

5452
03:27:29,900 --> 03:27:31,392
>> sorry for taking y'all

5453
03:27:31,392 --> 03:27:33,610
off topic, just I thought

5454
03:27:33,610 --> 03:27:33,295
mario was saying come on

5455
03:27:33,295 --> 03:27:34,595
over.

5456
03:27:34,595 --> 03:27:36,595
>> Bravo: no, just

5457
03:27:36,965 --> 03:27:37,665
acknowledging you all:

5458
03:27:37,665 --> 03:27:39,665
sorry about that.

5459
03:27:39,834 --> 03:27:40,168
>> sorry for the

5460
03:27:40,168 --> 03:27:40,602
confusion.

5461
03:27:40,602 --> 03:27:41,603
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5462
03:27:41,603 --> 03:27:43,438
we're glad you're here,

5463
03:27:43,438 --> 03:27:44,372
we're glad for your

5464
03:27:44,372 --> 03:27:44,973
advocacy as well,

5465
03:27:44,973 --> 03:27:46,973
councilmember bravo on

5466
03:27:47,800 --> 03:27:47,743
the topic?

5467
03:27:47,743 --> 03:27:49,743
>> thank you.

5468
03:27:53,314 --> 03:27:55,714
>> Bravo: so back to

5469
03:27:58,453 --> 03:27:59,755
police services, so I had

5470
03:27:59,755 --> 03:28:02,155
initially been hoping to

5471
03:28:03,910 --> 03:28:04,590
be able to look at how

5472
03:28:04,590 --> 03:28:05,827
can -- what can we do

5473
03:28:05,827 --> 03:28:06,895
when it comes to

5474
03:28:06,895 --> 03:28:07,162
accountability for the

5475
03:28:07,162 --> 03:28:08,960
community?

5476
03:28:08,960 --> 03:28:09,197
I was really interesting

5477
03:28:09,197 --> 03:28:10,865
in what can we do in

5478
03:28:10,865 --> 03:28:13,265
order to support the

5479
03:28:13,502 --> 03:28:15,770
community when there is

5480
03:28:15,770 --> 03:28:17,639
an excessive use of force

5481
03:28:17,639 --> 03:28:19,740
incident, and I've been

5482
03:28:19,740 --> 03:28:20,409
since informed that

5483
03:28:20,409 --> 03:28:21,909
there's a model in

5484
03:28:21,909 --> 03:28:22,911
denver, colorado, where

5485
03:28:22,911 --> 03:28:23,745
there are independently

5486
03:28:23,745 --> 03:28:26,145
funded staff that works

5487
03:28:27,816 --> 03:28:28,583
on oversight and

5488
03:28:28,583 --> 03:28:29,951
supporting the community

5489
03:28:29,951 --> 03:28:31,987
in those situations, and

5490
03:28:31,987 --> 03:28:33,880
I've been advised by

5491
03:28:33,880 --> 03:28:34,622
cities -- the city's

5492
03:28:34,622 --> 03:28:35,900
legal department that the

5493
03:28:35,900 --> 03:28:35,991
collective bargaining

5494
03:28:35,991 --> 03:28:37,159
agreement is going to

5495
03:28:37,159 --> 03:28:38,560
help dictate on whether

5496
03:28:38,560 --> 03:28:39,761
or not how we can do

5497
03:28:39,761 --> 03:28:41,563
that, but I am interested

5498
03:28:41,563 --> 03:28:42,964
in making sure that we

5499
03:28:42,964 --> 03:28:44,766
are continuing to explore

5500
03:28:44,766 --> 03:28:46,134
that option, and seeing

5501
03:28:46,134 --> 03:28:47,690
what we can do to support

5502
03:28:47,690 --> 03:28:49,469
the community in those

5503
03:28:53,842 --> 03:28:55,310
circumstances.

5504
03:28:55,310 --> 03:28:56,440
When it comes to district

5505
03:28:56,440 --> 03:28:58,440
1, I

5506
03:28:58,179 --> 03:29:00,215
I did have the

5507
03:29:00,215 --> 03:29:00,883
pleasure of getting the

5508
03:29:00,883 --> 03:29:02,351
briefing by the police

5509
03:29:02,351 --> 03:29:03,919
chief and his staff, and

5510
03:29:03,919 --> 03:29:05,253
we have begun discussions

5511
03:29:05,253 --> 03:29:06,355
about crime in the

5512
03:29:06,355 --> 03:29:07,489
dellview area, about

5513
03:29:07,489 --> 03:29:10,489
crime in the north st.

5514
03:29:10,725 --> 03:29:11,460
Mary's strip.

5515
03:29:11,460 --> 03:29:13,280
There's -- I want to say

5516
03:29:13,280 --> 03:29:15,630
that when I knocked doors

5517
03:29:15,630 --> 03:29:15,664
in district 1, I probably

5518
03:29:15,664 --> 03:29:17,532
heard more about the

5519
03:29:17,532 --> 03:29:19,340
crime around the north

5520
03:29:19,340 --> 03:29:20,168
st. Mary's strip than I

5521
03:29:20,168 --> 03:29:21,704
did about anything else.

5522
03:29:21,704 --> 03:29:22,371
In tobin hill I heard

5523
03:29:22,371 --> 03:29:23,572
that more than anything

5524
03:29:23,572 --> 03:29:24,773
else, but I MAY have

5525
03:29:24,773 --> 03:29:25,507
heard more about crime

5526
03:29:25,507 --> 03:29:27,420
around the north st.

5527
03:29:27,420 --> 03:29:27,609
Mary's strip than I heard

5528
03:29:27,609 --> 03:29:28,510
about anything else in

5529
03:29:28,510 --> 03:29:29,477
the district.

5530
03:29:29,477 --> 03:29:32,477
It was definitely a top

5531
03:29:32,748 --> 03:29:33,849
issue.

5532
03:29:33,849 --> 03:29:35,830
And so I want to make

5533
03:29:35,830 --> 03:29:36,485
sure that we're focused

5534
03:29:36,485 --> 03:29:37,152
on what we can do to

5535
03:29:37,152 --> 03:29:38,120
support that community.

5536
03:29:38,120 --> 03:29:40,120
In addition, throughout

5537
03:29:40,188 --> 03:29:41,823
the district, I heard

5538
03:29:41,823 --> 03:29:43,823
about complaints about

5539
03:29:45,694 --> 03:29:46,361
frequent gunshots, and it

5540
03:29:46,361 --> 03:29:48,230
ranged across the

5541
03:29:48,230 --> 03:29:50,230
district from hearing

5542
03:29:50,732 --> 03:29:51,433
gunshots several times a

5543
03:29:51,433 --> 03:29:53,833
month to hearing gunshots

5544
03:29:55,604 --> 03:29:58,306
on a daily basis, and

5545
03:29:58,306 --> 03:30:00,409
some members of district

5546
03:30:00,409 --> 03:30:01,943
1 told me that they've

5547
03:30:01,943 --> 03:30:03,913
just got ton the

5548
03:30:03,913 --> 03:30:04,980
gotten to the point

5549
03:30:04,980 --> 03:30:06,810
where it's become the new

5550
03:30:06,810 --> 03:30:07,249
normal for them, and I'm

5551
03:30:07,249 --> 03:30:09,649
not okay with that.

5552
03:30:11,530 --> 03:30:12,187
And so I want to be able

5553
03:30:12,187 --> 03:30:13,655
to continue to explore

5554
03:30:13,655 --> 03:30:15,424
with you, chief, what can

5555
03:30:15,424 --> 03:30:16,158
we do there, because I

5556
03:30:16,158 --> 03:30:17,158
don't want it to be the

5557
03:30:17,158 --> 03:30:17,960
new normal that you hear

5558
03:30:17,960 --> 03:30:18,493
gunshots in your

5559
03:30:18,493 --> 03:30:20,493
neighborhood.

5560
03:30:22,497 --> 03:30:24,366
Thank you.

5561
03:30:24,366 --> 03:30:25,300
>> chief: councilmember,

5562
03:30:25,300 --> 03:30:26,134
seems to be the norm in

5563
03:30:26,134 --> 03:30:27,469
other parts of the city

5564
03:30:27,469 --> 03:30:28,670
as well, and we're not

5565
03:30:28,670 --> 03:30:29,771
okay with it either.

5566
03:30:29,771 --> 03:30:30,873
You know, we tried to

5567
03:30:30,873 --> 03:30:32,873
address that, say,

5568
03:30:34,276 --> 03:30:35,744
several years ago with

5569
03:30:35,744 --> 03:30:38,447
a -- a platform called

5570
03:30:38,447 --> 03:30:40,215
shot spotter, and that

5571
03:30:40,215 --> 03:30:41,917
turned out not to work so

5572
03:30:41,917 --> 03:30:43,652
well.

5573
03:30:43,652 --> 03:30:45,888
We gave it a real good

5574
03:30:45,888 --> 03:30:47,956
look at quite some cost,

5575
03:30:47,956 --> 03:30:49,240
but it wasn't doing what

5576
03:30:49,240 --> 03:30:50,926
we wanted it to do or

5577
03:30:50,926 --> 03:30:53,940
what we needed it to do,

5578
03:30:53,940 --> 03:30:54,196
so that went by the

5579
03:30:54,196 --> 03:30:57,196
wayside, but I'm going to

5580
03:30:58,668 --> 03:31:00,169
have to go back and check

5581
03:31:00,169 --> 03:31:01,637
what you're referencing

5582
03:31:01,637 --> 03:31:02,771
about north st. Mary's,

5583
03:31:02,771 --> 03:31:05,140
because that is not

5584
03:31:05,140 --> 03:31:06,842
something that is on our

5585
03:31:06,842 --> 03:31:08,760
radar as a high crime

5586
03:31:08,760 --> 03:31:10,760
area.

5587
03:31:10,412 --> 03:31:12,248
The issues that I do know

5588
03:31:12,248 --> 03:31:13,815
are prevalent in -- on

5589
03:31:13,815 --> 03:31:15,417
the north st. Mary's

5590
03:31:15,417 --> 03:31:16,419
srip, the issues I just

5591
03:31:16,419 --> 03:31:18,819
talked about related to

5592
03:31:19,655 --> 03:31:20,222
the bars, and at bar

5593
03:31:20,222 --> 03:31:21,523
closing time.

5594
03:31:21,523 --> 03:31:22,757
That is the only issue

5595
03:31:22,757 --> 03:31:24,493
that I know of that's

5596
03:31:24,493 --> 03:31:26,893
happening up there, but

5597
03:31:28,497 --> 03:31:30,299
if -- in fact, as you

5598
03:31:30,299 --> 03:31:30,833
say, it's a high crime

5599
03:31:30,833 --> 03:31:31,934
area, I'm going to have

5600
03:31:31,934 --> 03:31:33,869
to look at that, and if

5601
03:31:33,869 --> 03:31:35,400
in fact it shows to be

5602
03:31:35,400 --> 03:31:36,572
true, then we'll come up

5603
03:31:36,572 --> 03:31:37,273
with something to address

5604
03:31:37,273 --> 03:31:38,730
it.

5605
03:31:38,730 --> 03:31:38,373
Pgh >> brietengross

5606
03:31:38,373 --> 03:31:40,373
bitter: the

5607
03:31:41,410 --> 03:31:43,112
>> Bravo: thecomplaints I've heard

5608
03:31:43,112 --> 03:31:44,130
were related to late at

5609
03:31:44,130 --> 03:31:45,247
night after people

5610
03:31:45,247 --> 03:31:47,749
getting out of the bars,

5611
03:31:47,749 --> 03:31:48,484
I think there's a lot of

5612
03:31:48,484 --> 03:31:50,484
overlap there.

5613
03:31:50,652 --> 03:31:51,654
>> chief: we're working

5614
03:31:51,654 --> 03:31:53,855
that with street crimes,

5615
03:31:53,855 --> 03:31:54,423
as we mentioned -- as I

5616
03:31:54,423 --> 03:31:55,958
mentioned when you and I

5617
03:31:55,958 --> 03:31:56,959
spoke about it, street

5618
03:31:56,959 --> 03:31:58,627
crimes is not the

5619
03:31:58,627 --> 03:31:59,895
solution to what ails the

5620
03:31:59,895 --> 03:32:00,896
north st. Mary's strip.

5621
03:32:00,896 --> 03:32:01,463
There's got to be

5622
03:32:01,463 --> 03:32:03,332
something else that we

5623
03:32:03,332 --> 03:32:06,135
can do to address that,

5624
03:32:06,135 --> 03:32:07,670
and as you know, that's

5625
03:32:07,670 --> 03:32:10,273
been a problem for as

5626
03:32:10,273 --> 03:32:12,508
long as those bars have

5627
03:32:12,508 --> 03:32:12,942
existed up there.

5628
03:32:12,942 --> 03:32:14,942
Pgh >> brietengross

5629
03:32:18,281 --> 03:32:20,281
bitter: thank you.

5630
03:32:21,483 --> 03:32:23,452
>> Bravo: thank you.

5631
03:32:23,452 --> 03:32:25,354
>> thank you, COUNCILMAN,

5632
03:32:25,354 --> 03:32:27,354
bravo.

5633
03:32:37,445 --> 03:32:37,610
>> thank you, chief,

5634
03:32:37,610 --> 03:32:37,708
thanks for the statistics

5635
03:32:37,708 --> 03:32:37,809
also, the crime

5636
03:32:37,809 --> 03:32:37,906
statistics comparing us

5637
03:32:37,906 --> 03:32:38,400
to other cities, but I

5638
03:32:38,400 --> 03:32:38,109
want to talk a little bit

5639
03:32:38,109 --> 03:32:38,210
about our number of

5640
03:32:38,210 --> 03:32:38,309
policemen out on the

5641
03:32:38,309 --> 03:32:38,407
street right now, and I

5642
03:32:38,407 --> 03:32:40,807
have this document I

5643
03:32:41,270 --> 03:32:44,207
guess it was prepared by

5644
03:32:44,207 --> 03:32:47,207
your office, JUNE 22nd of

5645
03:32:47,276 --> 03:32:49,746
this year, and it shows

5646
03:32:49,746 --> 03:32:50,847
per capita policemen for

5647
03:32:50,847 --> 03:32:53,247
our city compared to

5648
03:32:53,582 --> 03:32:54,951
other cities, and

5649
03:32:54,951 --> 03:32:55,818
according to this, we're

5650
03:32:55,818 --> 03:32:56,986
at third place, houston

5651
03:32:56,986 --> 03:32:58,554
is first, dallas is

5652
03:32:58,554 --> 03:32:59,722
second, we're in third,

5653
03:32:59,722 --> 03:33:01,290
followed by fort worth,

5654
03:33:01,290 --> 03:33:04,127
el paso and austin, as

5655
03:33:04,127 --> 03:33:05,928
far as number of police

5656
03:33:05,928 --> 03:33:06,162
per population in

5657
03:33:06,162 --> 03:33:08,162
those --

5658
03:33:08,330 --> 03:33:10,330
>> chief:

5659
03:33:11,330 --> 03:33:11,601
per thousand?

5660
03:33:11,601 --> 03:33:12,100
>> Perry: yeah, that is

5661
03:33:12,100 --> 03:33:14,100
great.

5662
03:33:14,170 --> 03:33:15,471
What is our actually

5663
03:33:15,471 --> 03:33:17,471
authorized strength, it

5664
03:33:19,800 --> 03:33:20,576
says here 2488.

5665
03:33:20,576 --> 03:33:21,444
>> chief: that's right.

5666
03:33:21,444 --> 03:33:23,444
>> Perry: that's what

5667
03:33:23,813 --> 03:33:25,815
we're authorized to have?

5668
03:33:25,815 --> 03:33:27,116
>> chief: yes, sir.

5669
03:33:27,116 --> 03:33:28,518
>> Perry: we talked

5670
03:33:28,518 --> 03:33:29,285
about cadets out in the

5671
03:33:29,285 --> 03:33:30,286
community eonce they

5672
03:33:30,286 --> 03:33:30,987
graduate from the

5673
03:33:30,987 --> 03:33:32,655
community, I'm looking at

5674
03:33:32,655 --> 03:33:35,550
this chart down below,

5675
03:33:37,527 --> 03:33:39,729
sapd vacancies as of JUNE 11th, got 2376

5676
03:33:39,729 --> 03:33:41,664
sworn positions filled.

5677
03:33:41,664 --> 03:33:44,367
And then you have cadets

5678
03:33:44,367 --> 03:33:45,768
in academy class, 94, but

5679
03:33:45,768 --> 03:33:46,769
they're in class, they're

5680
03:33:46,769 --> 03:33:49,606
not even out on the

5681
03:33:49,606 --> 03:33:51,606
street.

5682
03:33:52,700 --> 03:33:54,343
I'm saying it should be

5683
03:33:54,343 --> 03:33:56,343
94 cadets and the

5684
03:33:56,946 --> 03:33:57,646
vacancies added together,

5685
03:33:57,646 --> 03:33:58,247
because they're not on

5686
03:33:58,247 --> 03:33:59,348
the street.

5687
03:33:59,348 --> 03:34:00,950
They're still in school.

5688
03:34:00,950 --> 03:34:02,218
We don't even know how

5689
03:34:02,218 --> 03:34:02,619
many are actually going

5690
03:34:02,619 --> 03:34:03,653
to graduate.

5691
03:34:03,653 --> 03:34:04,620
>> chief: right.

5692
03:34:04,620 --> 03:34:06,620
>> Perry: so I'm

5693
03:34:07,123 --> 03:34:09,580
looking at the 2488 and

5694
03:34:09,580 --> 03:34:11,894
I'm reading this, that we

5695
03:34:11,894 --> 03:34:13,629
actually have 112

5696
03:34:13,629 --> 03:34:15,629
officers short, that's

5697
03:34:16,232 --> 03:34:17,433
the 94 that are in

5698
03:34:17,433 --> 03:34:19,302
academy, in the classes,

5699
03:34:19,302 --> 03:34:21,302
and the 18 vacancies.

5700
03:34:21,571 --> 03:34:23,571
>> chief: uh-huh.

5701
03:34:24,474 --> 03:34:26,474
>> Perry: but I'm

5702
03:34:27,310 --> 03:34:29,111
getting that, you know,

5703
03:34:29,111 --> 03:34:30,146
we're -- are we counting

5704
03:34:30,146 --> 03:34:31,547
the and my classes as

5705
03:34:31,547 --> 03:34:33,483
part of our sworn

5706
03:34:33,483 --> 03:34:35,483
positions filled?

5707
03:34:35,818 --> 03:34:36,652
Because I'm seeing that

5708
03:34:36,652 --> 03:34:38,652
we're 112 short right

5709
03:34:38,821 --> 03:34:40,821
now.

5710
03:34:43,526 --> 03:34:45,526
>> chief: you know,

5711
03:34:45,695 --> 03:34:47,197
we've gone around and

5712
03:34:47,197 --> 03:34:48,197
around on this each time

5713
03:34:48,197 --> 03:34:49,732
we talk about it.

5714
03:34:49,732 --> 03:34:51,340
>> Perry: we went round

5715
03:34:51,340 --> 03:34:52,969
and round about the

5716
03:34:52,969 --> 03:34:54,137
cadets that are actually

5717
03:34:54,137 --> 03:34:55,604
graduated that were

5718
03:34:55,604 --> 03:34:56,390
counting toward our

5719
03:34:56,390 --> 03:34:57,400
authorizations, but

5720
03:34:57,400 --> 03:34:57,707
they're not totally out

5721
03:34:57,707 --> 03:34:59,375
of the training program

5722
03:34:59,375 --> 03:34:59,876
because they're sitting

5723
03:34:59,876 --> 03:35:01,278
with another police

5724
03:35:01,278 --> 03:35:01,912
officer for another six

5725
03:35:01,912 --> 03:35:02,244
months after they

5726
03:35:02,244 --> 03:35:03,712
graduate.

5727
03:35:03,712 --> 03:35:06,112
And we've argued that

5728
03:35:06,249 --> 03:35:09,249
back and forth, but we've

5729
03:35:09,652 --> 03:35:10,854
never shown cadets as

5730
03:35:10,854 --> 03:35:12,388
filling positions that

5731
03:35:12,388 --> 03:35:14,224
are in class or not even

5732
03:35:14,224 --> 03:35:16,326
in class yet, have we?

5733
03:35:16,326 --> 03:35:17,794
I don't recall that ever

5734
03:35:17,794 --> 03:35:20,194
being portrayed this way

5735
03:35:21,464 --> 03:35:24,464
is what I'm saying, and

5736
03:35:24,867 --> 03:35:27,403
I'm saying today, we got

5737
03:35:27,403 --> 03:35:28,939
2376, and we're 112

5738
03:35:28,939 --> 03:35:30,939
short, because our

5739
03:35:31,875 --> 03:35:33,875
authorized is 2488.

5740
03:35:33,910 --> 03:35:35,946
So y'all made comments

5741
03:35:35,946 --> 03:35:37,147
while ago that we're

5742
03:35:37,147 --> 03:35:39,949
okay, out in the field

5743
03:35:39,949 --> 03:35:42,949
today, and I'm not seeing

5744
03:35:43,286 --> 03:35:43,620
it that way, we're 112

5745
03:35:43,620 --> 03:35:44,854
short today.

5746
03:35:44,854 --> 03:35:45,755
>> chief: COUNCILMAN,

5747
03:35:45,755 --> 03:35:46,189
we're going to disagree

5748
03:35:46,189 --> 03:35:46,989
with you.

5749
03:35:46,989 --> 03:35:48,825
>> Perry: okay.

5750
03:35:48,825 --> 03:35:50,825
>> chief: a department

5751
03:35:50,960 --> 03:35:52,161
this size, with almost

5752
03:35:52,161 --> 03:35:54,161
2500 positions, there is

5753
03:35:54,530 --> 03:35:56,399
always going to be people

5754
03:35:56,399 --> 03:35:57,601
retiring, or leaving and

5755
03:35:57,601 --> 03:35:59,469
it's a production line,

5756
03:35:59,469 --> 03:36:00,771
and the production line

5757
03:36:00,771 --> 03:36:01,405
is long in both the

5758
03:36:01,405 --> 03:36:02,500
police and fire

5759
03:36:02,500 --> 03:36:03,940
departments.

5760
03:36:03,940 --> 03:36:04,540
You've got the applicant

5761
03:36:04,540 --> 03:36:06,800
process.

5762
03:36:06,800 --> 03:36:08,408
You've got a training

5763
03:36:09,145 --> 03:36:11,281
academy for six months.

5764
03:36:11,281 --> 03:36:13,160
You're in -- after you

5765
03:36:13,160 --> 03:36:14,500
graduate, you're with a

5766
03:36:14,500 --> 03:36:15,285
field train officer for

5767
03:36:15,285 --> 03:36:16,619
another six months, it

5768
03:36:16,619 --> 03:36:17,921
takes awhile before that

5769
03:36:17,921 --> 03:36:18,755
individual is out there

5770
03:36:18,755 --> 03:36:20,157
by themselves, the

5771
03:36:20,157 --> 03:36:22,157
officer by themselves.

5772
03:36:22,292 --> 03:36:23,360
We have to constantly

5773
03:36:23,360 --> 03:36:25,360
churn that.

5774
03:36:25,862 --> 03:36:27,531
As city manager, when I

5775
03:36:27,531 --> 03:36:29,299
see 100 or I think it's

5776
03:36:29,299 --> 03:36:30,166
94 cadets in the academy,

5777
03:36:30,166 --> 03:36:31,670
that's good.

5778
03:36:31,670 --> 03:36:31,768
That's -- they are

5779
03:36:31,768 --> 03:36:32,469
filling a position,

5780
03:36:32,469 --> 03:36:33,536
because that means we

5781
03:36:33,536 --> 03:36:34,638
have a vacancy somewhere

5782
03:36:34,638 --> 03:36:36,638
else.

5783
03:36:36,940 --> 03:36:37,708
We didn't say on the

5784
03:36:37,708 --> 03:36:38,775
street when we were

5785
03:36:38,775 --> 03:36:40,143
talking a second ago.

5786
03:36:40,143 --> 03:36:41,110
We were talking about

5787
03:36:41,110 --> 03:36:43,110
authorized positions.

5788
03:36:43,580 --> 03:36:44,381
We have 18 or 19 actual

5789
03:36:44,381 --> 03:36:45,616
vacancies right now.

5790
03:36:45,616 --> 03:36:47,651
The vast majority of

5791
03:36:47,651 --> 03:36:49,319
those are filled officer

5792
03:36:49,319 --> 03:36:50,870
positions and we have 94

5793
03:36:50,870 --> 03:36:52,870
in the academy.

5794
03:36:52,289 --> 03:36:54,358
When we start the academy

5795
03:36:54,358 --> 03:36:54,891
class in this summer,

5796
03:36:54,891 --> 03:36:56,860
we're actually going to

5797
03:36:56,860 --> 03:36:57,594
be over our authorized

5798
03:36:57,594 --> 03:36:59,594
strength, because have

5799
03:36:59,963 --> 03:37:01,998
you to count it all

5800
03:37:01,998 --> 03:37:03,998
together.

5801
03:37:07,370 --> 03:37:08,404
rozcy counts the trainee

5802
03:37:08,404 --> 03:37:08,872
in public works as a

5803
03:37:08,872 --> 03:37:10,440
position, we have to

5804
03:37:10,440 --> 03:37:12,142
count that, we budget it

5805
03:37:12,142 --> 03:37:12,442
for it, we have to stay

5806
03:37:12,442 --> 03:37:13,743
ahead.

5807
03:37:13,743 --> 03:37:16,213
Where we were at three or

5808
03:37:16,213 --> 03:37:17,380
four years ago, we had

5809
03:37:17,380 --> 03:37:19,249
actually street vacancies

5810
03:37:19,249 --> 03:37:20,417
to almost 200 positions.

5811
03:37:20,417 --> 03:37:21,985
>> Perry: I think it's

5812
03:37:21,985 --> 03:37:23,870
close to 300.

5813
03:37:23,870 --> 03:37:25,622
>> I don't think we got

5814
03:37:25,622 --> 03:37:27,156
that high, but it was

5815
03:37:27,156 --> 03:37:28,910
certainly over 200.

5816
03:37:28,910 --> 03:37:29,826
We're not in that

5817
03:37:29,826 --> 03:37:31,327
position right now.

5818
03:37:31,327 --> 03:37:31,962
Those 94, half of them

5819
03:37:31,962 --> 03:37:32,830
will likely graduate at

5820
03:37:32,830 --> 03:37:33,897
the beginning of the

5821
03:37:33,897 --> 03:37:35,131
fall.

5822
03:37:35,131 --> 03:37:37,131
The neck

5823
03:37:38,368 --> 03:37:39,269
the next half will

5824
03:37:39,269 --> 03:37:40,537
graduate by the end of

5825
03:37:40,537 --> 03:37:41,505
this calendar year, we

5826
03:37:41,505 --> 03:37:42,138
keep that machine

5827
03:37:42,138 --> 03:37:43,139
rolling.

5828
03:37:43,139 --> 03:37:44,307
More importantly, our

5829
03:37:44,307 --> 03:37:45,242
trial budget, our

5830
03:37:45,242 --> 03:37:46,209
financial forecast,

5831
03:37:46,209 --> 03:37:47,811
likely our proposed

5832
03:37:47,811 --> 03:37:50,214
budget is going to make

5833
03:37:50,214 --> 03:37:51,214
sure funding to keep

5834
03:37:51,214 --> 03:37:52,916
police and fire, that

5835
03:37:52,916 --> 03:37:53,617
long pipeline funded.

5836
03:37:53,617 --> 03:37:55,617
>> Perry: okay.

5837
03:37:55,619 --> 03:37:57,254
I hear my bell going off.

5838
03:37:57,254 --> 03:37:58,755
We'll have to agree to

5839
03:37:58,755 --> 03:38:00,623
disagree on that, because

5840
03:38:00,623 --> 03:38:02,292
I -- counting cadets that

5841
03:38:02,292 --> 03:38:03,760
are in class as being out

5842
03:38:03,760 --> 03:38:05,762
on, you know, patrols and

5843
03:38:05,762 --> 03:38:07,697
all that, that -- I don't

5844
03:38:07,697 --> 03:38:09,333
agree with that.

5845
03:38:09,333 --> 03:38:11,134
>> COUNCILMAN, that's not

5846
03:38:11,134 --> 03:38:12,436
what we're doing.

5847
03:38:12,436 --> 03:38:13,871
Maria, can you pull up

5848
03:38:13,871 --> 03:38:14,872
what the COUNCILMAN Is

5849
03:38:14,872 --> 03:38:16,872
showing?

5850
03:38:17,700 --> 03:38:17,307
>> I don't have it on the

5851
03:38:17,307 --> 03:38:19,109
powerpoint.

5852
03:38:19,109 --> 03:38:20,143
We can try to do that but

5853
03:38:20,143 --> 03:38:21,478
I don't have it --

5854
03:38:21,478 --> 03:38:22,479
>> let's do that, we'll

5855
03:38:22,479 --> 03:38:23,480
bring it up at the end of

5856
03:38:23,480 --> 03:38:23,747
the day during the

5857
03:38:23,747 --> 03:38:24,181
catch-up.

5858
03:38:24,181 --> 03:38:25,480
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

5859
03:38:25,480 --> 03:38:25,849
thank you, councilmember

5860
03:38:25,849 --> 03:38:27,518
perry.

5861
03:38:27,518 --> 03:38:28,251
Councilmember viagran?

5862
03:38:28,251 --> 03:38:29,819
>> Viagran: thank you.

5863
03:38:29,819 --> 03:38:30,653
Thank you for that

5864
03:38:30,653 --> 03:38:32,653
presentation.

5865
03:38:32,856 --> 03:38:34,358
I'm very excited about

5866
03:38:34,358 --> 03:38:35,492
these pilot programs.

5867
03:38:35,492 --> 03:38:37,327
I'm looking forward to

5868
03:38:37,327 --> 03:38:39,327
getting a sub

5869
03:38:39,730 --> 03:38:41,640
substation in

5870
03:38:41,640 --> 03:38:42,165
district 3 so we can help

5871
03:38:42,165 --> 03:38:42,900
pilot some of these

5872
03:38:42,900 --> 03:38:43,767
programs, so I look

5873
03:38:43,767 --> 03:38:45,767
forward to that.

5874
03:38:47,171 --> 03:38:49,139
On slide 3, the community

5875
03:38:49,139 --> 03:38:50,274
input, with sapd and me,

5876
03:38:50,274 --> 03:38:52,642
chief, I appreciate that

5877
03:38:52,642 --> 03:38:54,678
you're going to go out to

5878
03:38:54,678 --> 03:38:55,812
the district, my district

5879
03:38:55,812 --> 03:38:57,812
in particular, because

5880
03:38:58,549 --> 03:38:59,490
they don't feel safe.

5881
03:38:59,490 --> 03:39:00,170
Is there any way that

5882
03:39:00,170 --> 03:39:02,185
they can -- you could

5883
03:39:02,185 --> 03:39:04,388
have like a standing

5884
03:39:04,388 --> 03:39:05,555
civilian input committee

5885
03:39:05,555 --> 03:39:07,358
or kind of something

5886
03:39:07,358 --> 03:39:10,358
where they can kind of

5887
03:39:10,627 --> 03:39:11,928
give suggestions to maybe

5888
03:39:11,928 --> 03:39:13,464
helping as we go through

5889
03:39:13,464 --> 03:39:15,366
this process, because I'd

5890
03:39:15,366 --> 03:39:18,366
like to see answers that

5891
03:39:19,503 --> 03:39:19,737
are district-specific.

5892
03:39:19,737 --> 03:39:20,370
To

5893
03:39:20,370 --> 03:39:22,306
building that

5894
03:39:22,306 --> 03:39:22,573
relationship and building

5895
03:39:22,573 --> 03:39:24,700
community.

5896
03:39:24,700 --> 03:39:24,542
>> chief: I don't see

5897
03:39:24,542 --> 03:39:25,743
why not.

5898
03:39:25,743 --> 03:39:27,244
The more input we get,

5899
03:39:27,244 --> 03:39:28,144
the better it is, it's a

5900
03:39:28,144 --> 03:39:28,679
matter of how we

5901
03:39:28,679 --> 03:39:29,780
structure it.

5902
03:39:29,780 --> 03:39:31,749
>> and then that's the

5903
03:39:31,749 --> 03:39:33,517
one thing with the arpa

5904
03:39:33,517 --> 03:39:34,585
dollars and what we have,

5905
03:39:34,585 --> 03:39:35,886
maybe we can look at

5906
03:39:35,886 --> 03:39:37,421
budgeting that if we have

5907
03:39:37,421 --> 03:39:38,255
another committee for

5908
03:39:38,255 --> 03:39:39,623
these -- these districts

5909
03:39:39,623 --> 03:39:40,757
that feel unsafe or want

5910
03:39:40,757 --> 03:39:41,191
to build those

5911
03:39:41,191 --> 03:39:42,993
relationships.

5912
03:39:42,993 --> 03:39:44,362
And then on slide number

5913
03:39:44,362 --> 03:39:46,762
5, another point to that

5914
03:39:47,564 --> 03:39:48,499
is when we look at the

5915
03:39:48,499 --> 03:39:49,834
community-based policing

5916
03:39:49,834 --> 03:39:51,702
programs, while I would

5917
03:39:51,702 --> 03:39:53,103
love for us to go wide

5918
03:39:53,103 --> 03:39:54,371
with, you know, pride

5919
03:39:54,371 --> 03:39:55,372
center, rape crisis

5920
03:39:55,372 --> 03:39:57,410
center, I would also like

5921
03:39:57,410 --> 03:39:57,708
to see us go

5922
03:39:57,708 --> 03:39:58,576
district-specific with

5923
03:39:58,576 --> 03:40:00,411
nonprofits that work in

5924
03:40:00,411 --> 03:40:02,647
the community to kind of

5925
03:40:02,647 --> 03:40:03,947
build that trust and get

5926
03:40:03,947 --> 03:40:05,947
youth involved.

5927
03:40:05,983 --> 03:40:07,251
So if we can just do that

5928
03:40:07,251 --> 03:40:09,251
consideration.

5929
03:40:09,920 --> 03:40:12,320
And then the question

5930
03:40:13,157 --> 03:40:15,157
regarding the mental

5931
03:40:16,627 --> 03:40:17,695
health, is -- is 911

5932
03:40:17,695 --> 03:40:19,230
asking when we get these

5933
03:40:19,230 --> 03:40:22,230
calls who is making the

5934
03:40:23,167 --> 03:40:24,368
call, if it's family,

5935
03:40:24,368 --> 03:40:26,368
neighbor, person driving

5936
03:40:27,338 --> 03:40:29,139
down the street, when

5937
03:40:29,139 --> 03:40:30,208
they make these calls to

5938
03:40:30,208 --> 03:40:31,342
make sure they know for

5939
03:40:31,342 --> 03:40:33,742
sure that that person

5940
03:40:37,415 --> 03:40:39,283
doesn't have a weapon?

5941
03:40:39,283 --> 03:40:40,952
>> chief: yes, the

5942
03:40:40,952 --> 03:40:41,853
complainant is typically

5943
03:40:41,853 --> 03:40:43,721
identified, you know,

5944
03:40:43,721 --> 03:40:44,788
when the call goes out,

5945
03:40:44,788 --> 03:40:46,190
as to, you know, where

5946
03:40:46,190 --> 03:40:47,525
the call is coming from,

5947
03:40:47,525 --> 03:40:48,826
and who is making it.

5948
03:40:48,826 --> 03:40:50,610
They always have a call

5949
03:40:50,610 --> 03:40:50,961
back -- not always, but

5950
03:40:50,961 --> 03:40:52,630
most times they have a

5951
03:40:52,630 --> 03:40:54,298
call back number that we

5952
03:40:54,298 --> 03:40:55,232
can refer back to if

5953
03:40:55,232 --> 03:40:56,267
there are questions or

5954
03:40:56,267 --> 03:40:57,268
concerns while the

5955
03:40:57,268 --> 03:40:59,137
officer is responding or

5956
03:40:59,137 --> 03:41:00,604
once they get there.

5957
03:41:00,604 --> 03:41:03,400
>> because my concern is

5958
03:41:05,209 --> 03:41:05,777
we transition to having

5959
03:41:05,777 --> 03:41:07,745
nonuniformed people go

5960
03:41:07,745 --> 03:41:09,146
off to these calls is

5961
03:41:09,146 --> 03:41:10,448
their safety, and I want

5962
03:41:10,448 --> 03:41:12,820
to make sure that their

5963
03:41:12,820 --> 03:41:13,250
safety is our top

5964
03:41:13,250 --> 03:41:14,686
priority as we do that.

5965
03:41:14,686 --> 03:41:15,953
>> chief: and that is

5966
03:41:15,953 --> 03:41:16,320
our concern, too,

5967
03:41:16,320 --> 03:41:18,320
councilmember.

5968
03:41:19,957 --> 03:41:21,458
We are -- we are open and

5969
03:41:21,458 --> 03:41:22,159
looking forward to

5970
03:41:22,159 --> 03:41:23,127
exploring alternative

5971
03:41:23,127 --> 03:41:23,995
responses to mental

5972
03:41:23,995 --> 03:41:26,395
health calls and other

5973
03:41:26,531 --> 03:41:27,565
types of calls, but

5974
03:41:27,565 --> 03:41:28,466
our -- our primary

5975
03:41:28,466 --> 03:41:29,366
concern, and I've

5976
03:41:29,366 --> 03:41:31,236
mentioned this before, is

5977
03:41:31,236 --> 03:41:32,804
for safety of the -- the

5978
03:41:32,804 --> 03:41:35,804
safety of those folks who

5979
03:41:35,873 --> 03:41:38,475
MAY be responding with us

5980
03:41:38,475 --> 03:41:39,977
or ahead of us.

5981
03:41:39,977 --> 03:41:40,778
>> that will be really

5982
03:41:40,778 --> 03:41:43,810
critical if we're talking

5983
03:41:43,810 --> 03:41:44,810
about a team approach.

5984
03:41:44,810 --> 03:41:46,160
It's critical now when

5985
03:41:46,160 --> 03:41:47,217
police officers to make

5986
03:41:47,217 --> 03:41:47,852
sure they're properly

5987
03:41:47,852 --> 03:41:49,200
informed.

5988
03:41:49,200 --> 03:41:50,921
It will be even more

5989
03:41:50,921 --> 03:41:52,220
critical if we're looking

5990
03:41:52,220 --> 03:41:52,790
at alternative response

5991
03:41:52,790 --> 03:41:54,693
mechanism, because we

5992
03:41:54,693 --> 03:41:56,327
don't want to put

5993
03:41:56,327 --> 03:41:56,627
anybody, any additional

5994
03:41:56,627 --> 03:41:57,562
harm's way.

5995
03:41:57,562 --> 03:41:58,830
>> Viagran: I just want

5996
03:41:58,830 --> 03:41:59,697
us to take that into

5997
03:41:59,697 --> 03:42:00,932
consideration when we

5998
03:42:00,932 --> 03:42:01,899
talk about budgetwise, is

5999
03:42:01,899 --> 03:42:04,168
this means the phone

6000
03:42:04,168 --> 03:42:05,169
calls to 911 might be a

6001
03:42:05,169 --> 03:42:07,710
little longer than

6002
03:42:07,710 --> 03:42:07,872
before, and we need to

6003
03:42:07,872 --> 03:42:08,539
take that into

6004
03:42:08,539 --> 03:42:10,539
consideration when we

6005
03:42:10,842 --> 03:42:12,576
look at servicing that.

6006
03:42:12,576 --> 03:42:14,445
The animal-related calls,

6007
03:42:14,445 --> 03:42:15,613
I think we could

6008
03:42:15,613 --> 03:42:17,349
definitely help with that

6009
03:42:17,349 --> 03:42:19,884
if we gave more money to

6010
03:42:19,884 --> 03:42:21,652
acs and got some big

6011
03:42:21,652 --> 03:42:22,487
fixes done within the

6012
03:42:22,487 --> 03:42:24,487
different communities.

6013
03:42:24,489 --> 03:42:26,558
So that was my point --

6014
03:42:26,558 --> 03:42:28,958
my little comment there.

6015
03:42:29,260 --> 03:42:29,861
And then on the top three

6016
03:42:29,861 --> 03:42:31,861
calls, officers should

6017
03:42:36,670 --> 03:42:36,568
not have primary

6018
03:42:36,568 --> 03:42:37,235
response responsibility

6019
03:42:37,235 --> 03:42:38,803
that came from them,

6020
03:42:38,803 --> 03:42:40,238
because I worked for the

6021
03:42:40,238 --> 03:42:41,105
police department, I knew

6022
03:42:41,105 --> 03:42:42,207
child custody visitation

6023
03:42:42,207 --> 03:42:43,607
was going to be on that

6024
03:42:43,607 --> 03:42:45,977
list; however, I'm not

6025
03:42:45,977 --> 03:42:46,577
sure that that is

6026
03:42:46,577 --> 03:42:48,577
necessarily the case.

6027
03:42:48,680 --> 03:42:51,150
I think we do need to

6028
03:42:51,150 --> 03:42:53,415
look at criminal history.

6029
03:42:53,884 --> 03:42:55,620
We do need to look at

6030
03:42:55,620 --> 03:42:57,188
that whole relationship

6031
03:42:57,188 --> 03:42:58,589
before we pass that on to

6032
03:42:58,589 --> 03:43:00,425
anyone else.

6033
03:43:00,425 --> 03:43:02,930
>> chief: councilmember,

6034
03:43:02,930 --> 03:43:03,928
just a comment that these

6035
03:43:03,928 --> 03:43:05,130
custody calls, child

6036
03:43:05,130 --> 03:43:07,530
care -- you know,

6037
03:43:08,199 --> 03:43:10,599
exchange calls, I relate

6038
03:43:11,903 --> 03:43:13,237
them somewhat to being as

6039
03:43:13,237 --> 03:43:14,772
potentially volatile as

6040
03:43:14,772 --> 03:43:15,840
family violence calls

6041
03:43:15,840 --> 03:43:16,641
because of the

6042
03:43:16,641 --> 03:43:17,642
relationship sometimes

6043
03:43:17,642 --> 03:43:19,410
between the mother and

6044
03:43:19,410 --> 03:43:22,410
the father, so they can

6045
03:43:23,214 --> 03:43:23,548
be very dangerous as well

6046
03:43:23,548 --> 03:43:23,982
well.

6047
03:43:23,982 --> 03:43:25,951
>> Viagran: some of

6048
03:43:25,951 --> 03:43:26,918
them I understand, but I

6049
03:43:26,918 --> 03:43:27,319
think if we do the

6050
03:43:27,319 --> 03:43:29,120
technology.

6051
03:43:29,120 --> 03:43:30,555
and then also the other

6052
03:43:30,555 --> 03:43:32,123
aspect on 11, and this is

6053
03:43:32,123 --> 03:43:33,291
why I ask is we need to

6054
03:43:33,291 --> 03:43:35,291
address that digital

6055
03:43:35,327 --> 03:43:37,929
divide before we go to

6056
03:43:37,929 --> 03:43:38,963
social media and survey

6057
03:43:38,963 --> 03:43:40,310
results online, so just

6058
03:43:40,310 --> 03:43:40,631
keep that in mind.

6059
03:43:40,631 --> 03:43:41,600
Thank you.

6060
03:43:41,600 --> 03:43:43,267
Thank you for your time.

6061
03:43:43,267 --> 03:43:44,368
Thank you, mayor.

6062
03:43:44,368 --> 03:43:46,271
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

6063
03:43:46,271 --> 03:43:48,139
thank you, councilmember

6064
03:43:48,139 --> 03:43:50,139
viagran.

6065
03:43:50,642 --> 03:43:51,476
Councilmember

6066
03:43:51,476 --> 03:43:52,244
rocha-garcia.

6067
03:43:52,244 --> 03:43:53,511
>> Rocha-Garcia: thank

6068
03:43:53,511 --> 03:43:55,911
you, mayor, thank you,

6069
03:43:56,281 --> 03:43:57,749
chief, I appreciate you

6070
03:43:57,749 --> 03:43:58,617
being willing to be there

6071
03:43:58,617 --> 03:44:00,185
for the residents of

6072
03:44:00,185 --> 03:44:02,287
district 4, I know I'm

6073
03:44:02,287 --> 03:44:03,355
supposed to go on a bike

6074
03:44:03,355 --> 03:44:04,656
patrol ride.

6075
03:44:04,656 --> 03:44:05,424
So thank you.

6076
03:44:05,424 --> 03:44:06,658
Street lighting is

6077
03:44:06,658 --> 03:44:07,225
important in my

6078
03:44:07,225 --> 03:44:08,293
neighborhood, and our

6079
03:44:08,293 --> 03:44:09,600
area is the second

6080
03:44:09,600 --> 03:44:09,961
largest area in san

6081
03:44:09,961 --> 03:44:11,620
antonio, so I literally

6082
03:44:11,620 --> 03:44:13,232
have to divide the

6083
03:44:13,232 --> 03:44:13,565
district up into three

6084
03:44:13,565 --> 03:44:14,833
sections.

6085
03:44:14,833 --> 03:44:15,767
The northern, the

6086
03:44:15,767 --> 03:44:16,200
central, and the southern

6087
03:44:16,200 --> 03:44:18,200
part.

6088
03:44:19,400 --> 03:44:21,390
And so the last go round,

6089
03:44:21,390 --> 03:44:23,308
I was able to advocate --

6090
03:44:23,308 --> 03:44:24,609
to get some money

6091
03:44:24,609 --> 03:44:26,578
budgeted for street

6092
03:44:26,578 --> 03:44:27,479
lighting, and so we had

6093
03:44:27,479 --> 03:44:29,180
87 street lights

6094
03:44:29,180 --> 03:44:30,381
installed.

6095
03:44:30,381 --> 03:44:31,783
There's 115 identified,

6096
03:44:31,783 --> 03:44:32,484
some neighbors decided

6097
03:44:32,484 --> 03:44:33,986
they didn't want them,

6098
03:44:33,986 --> 03:44:34,619
and so it was really

6099
03:44:34,619 --> 03:44:36,254
impactful.

6100
03:44:36,254 --> 03:44:37,923
And so I remember driving

6101
03:44:37,923 --> 03:44:40,580
around like my first

6102
03:44:40,580 --> 03:44:41,590
month on the job with

6103
03:44:41,590 --> 03:44:41,726
erik walsh, and we

6104
03:44:41,726 --> 03:44:43,362
identified three

6105
03:44:43,362 --> 03:44:44,563
different types of street

6106
03:44:44,563 --> 03:44:46,640
lamps, right?

6107
03:44:46,640 --> 03:44:47,232
Some from like the

6108
03:44:47,232 --> 03:44:49,232
'70s, or something.

6109
03:44:49,401 --> 03:44:50,235
It was really, really

6110
03:44:50,235 --> 03:44:51,769
retrolights.

6111
03:44:51,769 --> 03:44:53,104
So I do believe in that.

6112
03:44:53,104 --> 03:44:55,400
And I'm wondering if

6113
03:44:55,400 --> 03:44:56,442
there's a way that we can

6114
03:44:56,442 --> 03:44:57,575
have your team, the

6115
03:44:57,575 --> 03:44:59,244
officers, even like

6116
03:44:59,244 --> 03:45:00,646
identify, as did I my

6117
03:45:00,646 --> 03:45:02,414
ride-along a couple of

6118
03:45:02,414 --> 03:45:04,416
years ago, they knew,

6119
03:45:04,416 --> 03:45:05,717
like, oh, yeah, it's real

6120
03:45:05,717 --> 03:45:07,119
dark in here, so usually

6121
03:45:07,119 --> 03:45:08,190
we will see kids running

6122
03:45:08,190 --> 03:45:08,519
around here at night, et

6123
03:45:08,519 --> 03:45:09,221
cetera.

6124
03:45:09,221 --> 03:45:10,222
So I don't know if

6125
03:45:10,222 --> 03:45:11,290
there's an opportunity to

6126
03:45:11,290 --> 03:45:12,757
engage them together.

6127
03:45:12,757 --> 03:45:14,250
Our safe officers are out

6128
03:45:14,250 --> 03:45:16,610
during the day, but I'm

6129
03:45:16,610 --> 03:45:16,261
talking about t shift,

6130
03:45:16,261 --> 03:45:18,261
right?

6131
03:45:19,980 --> 03:45:19,898
And so those guys, those

6132
03:45:19,898 --> 03:45:20,932
officers are the ones

6133
03:45:20,932 --> 03:45:21,800
that are kind of out

6134
03:45:21,800 --> 03:45:23,402
there, wondering if we

6135
03:45:23,402 --> 03:45:25,571
can get some additional

6136
03:45:25,571 --> 03:45:26,805
engagement and support to

6137
03:45:26,805 --> 03:45:27,806
team up for that lighting

6138
03:45:27,806 --> 03:45:29,407
study?

6139
03:45:29,407 --> 03:45:32,407
>> we'll be happy to do

6140
03:45:32,444 --> 03:45:32,944
that, COUNCILWOMAN.

6141
03:45:32,944 --> 03:45:34,944
>> Rocha-Garcia: okay.

6142
03:45:37,340 --> 03:45:37,162
Thank you.

6143
03:45:37,162 --> 03:45:37,252
So I agree with the

6144
03:45:37,252 --> 03:45:37,342
feedback on the loud

6145
03:45:37,342 --> 03:45:38,160
music and the fireworks,

6146
03:45:38,160 --> 03:45:39,417
for instance.

6147
03:45:39,417 --> 03:45:40,886
I didn't see anything in

6148
03:45:40,886 --> 03:45:42,454
here, maybe I just missed

6149
03:45:42,454 --> 03:45:43,388
it when I stepped out,

6150
03:45:43,388 --> 03:45:45,388
handle with care.

6151
03:45:45,424 --> 03:45:46,391
and so I just want to

6152
03:45:46,391 --> 03:45:47,920
continue to be an

6153
03:45:47,920 --> 03:45:47,959
advocate for the handle

6154
03:45:47,959 --> 03:45:49,728
with care program.

6155
03:45:49,728 --> 03:45:51,330
A lot of the kids in my

6156
03:45:51,330 --> 03:45:53,330
district, and their

6157
03:45:53,665 --> 03:45:55,670
service specifically,

6158
03:45:55,670 --> 03:45:56,635
through their social

6159
03:45:56,635 --> 03:45:58,337
workers, and I just -- I

6160
03:45:58,337 --> 03:45:58,837
want to make sure that we

6161
03:45:58,837 --> 03:45:59,237
don't underfund that

6162
03:45:59,237 --> 03:46:00,372
program.

6163
03:46:00,372 --> 03:46:01,773
I think it continues to

6164
03:46:01,773 --> 03:46:04,173
need some additional love

6165
03:46:04,309 --> 03:46:05,978
and support there.

6166
03:46:05,978 --> 03:46:07,412
>> chief: councilmember,

6167
03:46:07,412 --> 03:46:08,848
that is not a program

6168
03:46:08,848 --> 03:46:09,981
that has required

6169
03:46:09,981 --> 03:46:10,782
additional programming,

6170
03:46:10,782 --> 03:46:13,752
but be happy to take it

6171
03:46:13,752 --> 03:46:14,519
if you want to give it to

6172
03:46:14,519 --> 03:46:15,621
us --

6173
03:46:15,621 --> 03:46:17,122
>> Rocha-Garcia: erik

6174
03:46:17,122 --> 03:46:18,490
said don't give chief any

6175
03:46:18,490 --> 03:46:18,890
money. They will always

6176
03:46:18,890 --> 03:46:20,259
take it.

6177
03:46:20,259 --> 03:46:21,360
The chiefs always take

6178
03:46:21,360 --> 03:46:23,329
the money.

6179
03:46:23,329 --> 03:46:25,497
So, no, we're good.

6180
03:46:25,497 --> 03:46:25,965
The next thing is street

6181
03:46:25,965 --> 03:46:27,965
racing.

6182
03:46:28,434 --> 03:46:28,867
Do we have a plan, I

6183
03:46:28,867 --> 03:46:29,335
don't think it would

6184
03:46:29,335 --> 03:46:30,869
require any budgeting,

6185
03:46:30,869 --> 03:46:31,504
but I didn't see anything

6186
03:46:31,504 --> 03:46:32,838
erik walsh is the one

6187
03:46:32,838 --> 03:46:34,473
that peels out usually

6188
03:46:34,473 --> 03:46:35,407
out of city hall, but I'm

6189
03:46:35,407 --> 03:46:37,407
talking about --

6190
03:46:39,345 --> 03:46:39,745
>> on southwest

6191
03:46:39,745 --> 03:46:40,713
military --

6192
03:46:40,713 --> 03:46:41,714
>> COUNCILWOMAN, we had a

6193
03:46:41,714 --> 03:46:42,781
discussion at public

6194
03:46:42,781 --> 03:46:43,882
safety committee, and

6195
03:46:43,882 --> 03:46:44,917
that is something that is

6196
03:46:44,917 --> 03:46:45,684
going to come back during

6197
03:46:45,684 --> 03:46:46,518
the fall.

6198
03:46:46,518 --> 03:46:48,870
We

6199
03:46:48,870 --> 03:46:48,487
we had a preliminary

6200
03:46:48,487 --> 03:46:49,421
discussion.

6201
03:46:49,421 --> 03:46:50,556
we got some feedback from

6202
03:46:50,556 --> 03:46:51,190
the members of the

6203
03:46:51,190 --> 03:46:52,224
committee, and again,

6204
03:46:52,224 --> 03:46:55,224
that will be a discussion

6205
03:46:55,428 --> 03:46:55,994
for the fall.

6206
03:46:55,994 --> 03:46:57,262
>> Rocha-Garcia: sorry,

6207
03:46:57,262 --> 03:46:58,363
go ahead, chief.

6208
03:46:58,363 --> 03:46:59,310
>> chief: there's a

6209
03:46:59,310 --> 03:47:01,310
program, councilmember,

6210
03:47:02,000 --> 03:47:02,334
that we are about to kick

6211
03:47:02,334 --> 03:47:04,334
off.

6212
03:47:06,538 --> 03:47:07,639
I got a -- I'll call it a

6213
03:47:07,639 --> 03:47:08,373
proposal.

6214
03:47:08,373 --> 03:47:08,874
Proposal on it the other

6215
03:47:08,874 --> 03:47:10,376
day.

6216
03:47:10,376 --> 03:47:11,576
So what we've done, I

6217
03:47:11,576 --> 03:47:12,711
think y'all know, MAY

6218
03:47:12,711 --> 03:47:14,279
know who captain

6219
03:47:14,279 --> 03:47:16,279
benavidez is.

6220
03:47:16,716 --> 03:47:18,550
So when the street racing

6221
03:47:18,550 --> 03:47:19,485
issue started to peak, we

6222
03:47:19,485 --> 03:47:20,920
were looking around at

6223
03:47:20,920 --> 03:47:21,887
other cities and what

6224
03:47:21,887 --> 03:47:22,488
they were doing, and I

6225
03:47:22,488 --> 03:47:24,123
can't remember what city

6226
03:47:24,123 --> 03:47:26,523
it was, but they

6227
03:47:28,494 --> 03:47:29,895
partnered with a local

6228
03:47:29,895 --> 03:47:30,463
racetrack and that

6229
03:47:30,463 --> 03:47:32,463
racetrack allowed the

6230
03:47:32,531 --> 03:47:33,899
street racers, we'll call

6231
03:47:33,899 --> 03:47:34,634
them, to go on that

6232
03:47:34,634 --> 03:47:35,100
racetrack and do their

6233
03:47:35,100 --> 03:47:37,100
thing.

6234
03:47:37,236 --> 03:47:38,737
So we've got a racetrack

6235
03:47:38,737 --> 03:47:40,973
lined up getting ready to

6236
03:47:40,973 --> 03:47:43,242
partner with us to do

6237
03:47:43,242 --> 03:47:44,443
that, so I just got the

6238
03:47:44,443 --> 03:47:45,878
proposal yesterday.

6239
03:47:45,878 --> 03:47:47,412
I haven't read it yet,

6240
03:47:47,412 --> 03:47:49,148
but I will do that soon,

6241
03:47:49,148 --> 03:47:50,849
so that MAY be another

6242
03:47:50,849 --> 03:47:51,250
alternative to get folks

6243
03:47:51,250 --> 03:47:52,170
off the street.

6244
03:47:52,170 --> 03:47:52,585
>> Rocha-Garcia: that's

6245
03:47:52,585 --> 03:47:54,353
super cool.

6246
03:47:54,353 --> 03:47:55,387
I have another -- I don't

6247
03:47:55,387 --> 03:47:56,256
know what racetrack

6248
03:47:56,256 --> 03:47:58,157
you're talking about, but

6249
03:47:58,157 --> 03:47:59,524
I have one that's

6250
03:47:59,524 --> 03:48:01,924
probably helpful as well.

6251
03:48:02,428 --> 03:48:03,762
i had a lot of I'll call

6252
03:48:03,762 --> 03:48:06,732
them kids in my area,

6253
03:48:06,732 --> 03:48:07,533
because they were 17,

6254
03:48:07,533 --> 03:48:09,368
18-year-olds doing ring

6255
03:48:09,368 --> 03:48:09,969
or fire, it was

6256
03:48:09,969 --> 03:48:11,804
ridiculous, I want to

6257
03:48:11,804 --> 03:48:12,370
make sure we have a focus

6258
03:48:12,370 --> 03:48:13,706
on that.

6259
03:48:13,706 --> 03:48:14,941
>> chief: it's something

6260
03:48:14,941 --> 03:48:16,142
that we'll partner, the

6261
03:48:16,142 --> 03:48:17,376
police department will

6262
03:48:17,376 --> 03:48:19,211
partner in to make that

6263
03:48:19,211 --> 03:48:20,212
community engagement.

6264
03:48:20,212 --> 03:48:20,546
>> Rocha-Garcia: okay.

6265
03:48:20,546 --> 03:48:22,546
Then gunshots.

6266
03:48:22,948 --> 03:48:24,550
Do we have any innovative

6267
03:48:24,550 --> 03:48:25,451
approaches to identify --

6268
03:48:25,451 --> 03:48:26,252
there's got to be

6269
03:48:26,252 --> 03:48:27,220
something created by now

6270
03:48:27,220 --> 03:48:28,888
to figure out where the

6271
03:48:28,888 --> 03:48:30,723
gunshot is coming from?

6272
03:48:30,723 --> 03:48:31,957
>> chief: well, shot

6273
03:48:31,957 --> 03:48:32,925
spotter is what we

6274
03:48:32,925 --> 03:48:34,827
thought -- well, we

6275
03:48:34,827 --> 03:48:36,290
tested it to see how --

6276
03:48:36,290 --> 03:48:37,300
you know, if you want to

6277
03:48:37,300 --> 03:48:38,264
record how many gunshots

6278
03:48:38,264 --> 03:48:40,232
are being fired at night

6279
03:48:40,232 --> 03:48:41,934
in a particular area,

6280
03:48:41,934 --> 03:48:43,369
shot spotter is a great

6281
03:48:43,369 --> 03:48:46,739
tool, but it does not --

6282
03:48:46,739 --> 03:48:48,274
it does not help us -- it

6283
03:48:48,274 --> 03:48:50,443
didn't help us identify

6284
03:48:50,443 --> 03:48:51,710
who was doing it,

6285
03:48:51,710 --> 03:48:52,612
because -- and we went to

6286
03:48:52,612 --> 03:48:53,846
great lengths.

6287
03:48:53,846 --> 03:48:55,314
We put a car in the area

6288
03:48:55,314 --> 03:48:57,550
simply to respond to shot

6289
03:48:57,550 --> 03:48:59,850
spotter calls, and we

6290
03:48:59,850 --> 03:49:01,200
paid overtime to do that,

6291
03:49:01,200 --> 03:49:03,523
and we had them respond

6292
03:49:03,523 --> 03:49:05,257
code 2, which is with

6293
03:49:05,257 --> 03:49:07,293
lights and sirens, so

6294
03:49:07,293 --> 03:49:08,794
that did not help us get

6295
03:49:08,794 --> 03:49:09,529
to the scene, to that

6296
03:49:09,529 --> 03:49:10,396
particular scene and

6297
03:49:10,396 --> 03:49:11,264
identify that individual,

6298
03:49:11,264 --> 03:49:12,766
and potentially make an

6299
03:49:12,766 --> 03:49:14,766
arrest.

6300
03:49:15,735 --> 03:49:16,536
So -- but as far as other

6301
03:49:16,536 --> 03:49:17,570
technologies going, I

6302
03:49:17,570 --> 03:49:19,105
don't know of any.

6303
03:49:19,105 --> 03:49:20,707
I don't know of any

6304
03:49:20,707 --> 03:49:21,774
around other cities, what

6305
03:49:21,774 --> 03:49:22,776
they're doing, a lot of

6306
03:49:22,776 --> 03:49:24,744
cities have the same

6307
03:49:24,744 --> 03:49:26,913
problems that we do,

6308
03:49:26,913 --> 03:49:28,913
especially cities, you

6309
03:49:29,549 --> 03:49:30,950
know, in the west and

6310
03:49:30,950 --> 03:49:32,685
northwest, we're not

6311
03:49:32,685 --> 03:49:34,685
seeing any innovative

6312
03:49:34,921 --> 03:49:37,321
approaches to having --

6313
03:49:39,625 --> 03:49:41,194
to the gunshot issue.

6314
03:49:41,194 --> 03:49:42,162
>> chief, remind me,

6315
03:49:42,162 --> 03:49:43,262
different cities had

6316
03:49:43,262 --> 03:49:43,930
different levels of

6317
03:49:43,930 --> 03:49:44,864
success depending on how

6318
03:49:44,864 --> 03:49:46,533
they were laid out and

6319
03:49:46,533 --> 03:49:48,701
the density, that was a

6320
03:49:48,701 --> 03:49:50,603
major factor that kind of

6321
03:49:50,603 --> 03:49:53,603
showed there was a --

6322
03:49:56,642 --> 03:49:57,711
kind of a difference in

6323
03:49:57,711 --> 03:49:58,811
performance, a

6324
03:49:58,811 --> 03:50:00,446
washington, D.C., versus

6325
03:50:00,446 --> 03:50:01,214
maybe a kansas city or

6326
03:50:01,214 --> 03:50:02,582
san antonio.

6327
03:50:02,582 --> 03:50:03,683
Depends on what the area

6328
03:50:03,683 --> 03:50:05,317
looks like and how dense

6329
03:50:05,317 --> 03:50:07,319
it is, the buildings, and

6330
03:50:07,319 --> 03:50:08,355
that was a major factor,

6331
03:50:08,355 --> 03:50:11,457
I think that we found as

6332
03:50:11,457 --> 03:50:13,457
well.

6333
03:50:14,160 --> 03:50:15,361
>> yeah, not to harp on

6334
03:50:15,361 --> 03:50:16,863
shot spotter, but that

6335
03:50:16,863 --> 03:50:18,998
type of technology would

6336
03:50:18,998 --> 03:50:21,801
be wonderful on a college

6337
03:50:21,801 --> 03:50:23,369
campus or some type of

6338
03:50:23,369 --> 03:50:25,538
campus where gunshots are

6339
03:50:25,538 --> 03:50:27,938
simply never supposed to

6340
03:50:29,308 --> 03:50:30,577
happen, and -- and small

6341
03:50:30,577 --> 03:50:32,378
enough to respond to it

6342
03:50:32,378 --> 03:50:34,378
quickly enough to

6343
03:50:34,548 --> 03:50:35,648
probably identify or find

6344
03:50:35,648 --> 03:50:38,510
out who is shooting the

6345
03:50:38,510 --> 03:50:38,485
gun.

6346
03:50:38,485 --> 03:50:39,653
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

6347
03:50:39,653 --> 03:50:41,653
thank you, councilmember.

6348
03:50:48,128 --> 03:50:50,128
>> Rocha-Garcia:.

6349
03:50:51,731 --> 03:50:52,232
Councilmember mckee

6350
03:50:52,232 --> 03:50:53,600
rodriguez.

6351
03:50:53,600 --> 03:50:53,833
>> Rodriguez: is my mic

6352
03:50:53,833 --> 03:50:54,768
on?

6353
03:50:54,768 --> 03:50:57,768
I wanted to address a

6354
03:50:58,871 --> 03:51:00,673
comment earlier the sign

6355
03:51:00,673 --> 03:51:01,707
scientific study shows we

6356
03:51:01,707 --> 03:51:02,475
need more police

6357
03:51:02,475 --> 03:51:04,311
officers, and that is

6358
03:51:04,311 --> 03:51:05,645
absolutely false, the

6359
03:51:05,645 --> 03:51:07,147
study did not show that.

6360
03:51:07,147 --> 03:51:08,548
I think what it reveals

6361
03:51:08,548 --> 03:51:10,830
to me is we need

6362
03:51:10,830 --> 03:51:11,351
investment in addressing

6363
03:51:11,351 --> 03:51:13,453
the root causes of crime.

6364
03:51:13,453 --> 03:51:15,354
We need to invest in

6365
03:51:15,354 --> 03:51:17,124
crime deterrence, and I

6366
03:51:17,124 --> 03:51:18,692
think my background as a

6367
03:51:18,692 --> 03:51:19,959
teacher, and a lot of

6368
03:51:19,959 --> 03:51:22,959
people think the goal of

6369
03:51:22,996 --> 03:51:23,729
a teacher is academic

6370
03:51:23,729 --> 03:51:25,310
outcomes, and that is one

6371
03:51:25,310 --> 03:51:26,566
of the goals, but

6372
03:51:26,566 --> 03:51:28,468
priority number one is

6373
03:51:28,468 --> 03:51:31,905
safety, I view my role as

6374
03:51:31,905 --> 03:51:33,606
a councilmember is the

6375
03:51:33,606 --> 03:51:34,574
same.

6376
03:51:34,574 --> 03:51:35,442
Safety is a huge priority

6377
03:51:35,442 --> 03:51:36,843
to me.

6378
03:51:36,843 --> 03:51:38,110
When we're talking about

6379
03:51:38,110 --> 03:51:40,470
investment, I think that

6380
03:51:40,470 --> 03:51:41,448
means we need to invest

6381
03:51:41,448 --> 03:51:43,448
in preventing domestic

6382
03:51:43,750 --> 03:51:45,385
violence in community

6383
03:51:45,385 --> 03:51:46,420
interest efforts, access

6384
03:51:46,420 --> 03:51:48,121
to housing and jobs,

6385
03:51:48,121 --> 03:51:49,589
security systems, as was

6386
03:51:49,589 --> 03:51:51,357
said earlier, and

6387
03:51:51,357 --> 03:51:52,359
restorative justice in

6388
03:51:52,359 --> 03:51:54,759
schools, as well as

6389
03:51:56,462 --> 03:51:57,164
investments in unp lick public

6390
03:51:57,164 --> 03:51:59,164
health.

6391
03:51:59,365 --> 03:52:00,867
And I think the study

6392
03:52:00,867 --> 03:52:02,402
showed that increased

6393
03:52:02,402 --> 03:52:04,104
officers don't lead to a

6394
03:52:04,104 --> 03:52:05,339
decrease in crime, nor an

6395
03:52:05,339 --> 03:52:06,707
increase in safety, and

6396
03:52:06,707 --> 03:52:07,741
there's two different

6397
03:52:07,741 --> 03:52:08,575
proposals I have that I

6398
03:52:08,575 --> 03:52:09,276
would like to ask for

6399
03:52:09,276 --> 03:52:10,844
support on.

6400
03:52:10,844 --> 03:52:12,880
One of the problems that

6401
03:52:12,880 --> 03:52:15,280
has been identified these

6402
03:52:15,649 --> 03:52:16,750
past weeks is that cps

6403
03:52:16,750 --> 03:52:18,318
nor the city know how

6404
03:52:18,318 --> 03:52:19,119
many street lights we

6405
03:52:19,119 --> 03:52:21,388
have, where they are, and

6406
03:52:21,388 --> 03:52:21,988
we pay for those, and so

6407
03:52:21,988 --> 03:52:23,723
what I would like to

6408
03:52:23,723 --> 03:52:24,458
propose is one is street

6409
03:52:24,458 --> 03:52:26,458
lighting index, something

6410
03:52:26,593 --> 03:52:28,729
like a heat map or an

6411
03:52:28,729 --> 03:52:29,996
index where streets are

6412
03:52:29,996 --> 03:52:30,998
assigned a grade based on

6413
03:52:30,998 --> 03:52:32,866
how well let they are,

6414
03:52:32,866 --> 03:52:34,401
and this would ideally

6415
03:52:34,401 --> 03:52:36,270
analyze where crime is

6416
03:52:36,270 --> 03:52:37,137
happening, school zones,

6417
03:52:37,137 --> 03:52:39,137
endogen street

6418
03:52:40,440 --> 03:52:41,708
and general street

6419
03:52:41,708 --> 03:52:42,676
darkness to determine a

6420
03:52:42,676 --> 03:52:44,676
street lighting strategy

6421
03:52:44,711 --> 03:52:46,546
so we're not aimlessly

6422
03:52:46,546 --> 03:52:47,547
throwing street lights in

6423
03:52:47,547 --> 03:52:48,515
places, but so there is a

6424
03:52:48,515 --> 03:52:49,883
strategy there.

6425
03:52:49,883 --> 03:52:50,484
I would like to ask for

6426
03:52:50,484 --> 03:52:51,685
additional funding for

6427
03:52:51,685 --> 03:52:52,686
street lights in my

6428
03:52:52,686 --> 03:52:53,654
district and across the

6429
03:52:53,654 --> 03:52:54,988
city, I'm sure.

6430
03:52:54,988 --> 03:52:56,991
And a second ask would be

6431
03:52:56,991 --> 03:52:58,692
an office or an entity

6432
03:52:58,692 --> 03:53:00,270
separate from sapd that

6433
03:53:00,270 --> 03:53:02,270
would include data

6434
03:53:02,429 --> 03:53:03,831
scientists and

6435
03:53:03,831 --> 03:53:05,466
criminallologists that

6436
03:53:05,466 --> 03:53:06,800
can make strategic

6437
03:53:06,800 --> 03:53:07,768
recommendations to deter

6438
03:53:07,768 --> 03:53:09,203
crime and address its

6439
03:53:09,203 --> 03:53:10,170
root causes and I think

6440
03:53:10,170 --> 03:53:12,170
one of responsibilities

6441
03:53:12,272 --> 03:53:13,341
of that office could be

6442
03:53:13,341 --> 03:53:15,341
operating that street

6443
03:53:15,542 --> 03:53:16,760
lighting index.

6444
03:53:16,760 --> 03:53:16,510
Thank you.

6445
03:53:16,510 --> 03:53:18,510
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

6446
03:53:18,579 --> 03:53:19,450
thank you, councilmember

6447
03:53:19,450 --> 03:53:20,714
mckee rodriguez.

6448
03:53:20,714 --> 03:53:22,249
Any response to that?

6449
03:53:22,249 --> 03:53:23,317
>> chief: councilmember,

6450
03:53:23,317 --> 03:53:25,860
I think that we are very

6451
03:53:25,860 --> 03:53:28,860
much on the same page

6452
03:53:29,176 --> 03:53:29,323
with the majority of what

6453
03:53:29,323 --> 03:53:30,230
you talked act, so I

6454
03:53:30,230 --> 03:53:32,230
support that.

6455
03:53:33,994 --> 03:53:36,994
You know, the social and

6456
03:53:37,598 --> 03:53:38,832
economic issues are what

6457
03:53:38,832 --> 03:53:40,434
police deal with, you

6458
03:53:40,434 --> 03:53:41,568
know, when it turns in

6459
03:53:41,568 --> 03:53:44,568
the result of it being,

6460
03:53:45,172 --> 03:53:47,808
you know, crime, and, you

6461
03:53:47,808 --> 03:53:48,542
know, we get on this

6462
03:53:48,542 --> 03:53:49,309
merry-go-round where we

6463
03:53:49,309 --> 03:53:50,511
continue to arrest

6464
03:53:50,511 --> 03:53:51,712
people, but we're not

6465
03:53:51,712 --> 03:53:53,712
addressing the root

6466
03:53:53,814 --> 03:53:54,982
causes of it as you

6467
03:53:54,982 --> 03:53:57,382
mentioned, I'm on the

6468
03:53:57,651 --> 03:53:58,752
same page as you are.

6469
03:53:58,752 --> 03:54:00,752
>> Rodriguez: thank

6470
03:54:00,754 --> 03:54:01,388
you, chief Mcmanus.

6471
03:54:01,388 --> 03:54:03,388
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

6472
03:54:03,658 --> 03:54:03,757
councilmen pala

6473
03:54:03,757 --> 03:54:04,591
ez.

6474
03:54:04,591 --> 03:54:05,659
>> Pal*ez: I don't know

6475
03:54:05,659 --> 03:54:06,861
what study you're talking

6476
03:54:06,861 --> 03:54:08,362
about, but I would like

6477
03:54:08,362 --> 03:54:09,230
to see one, have my

6478
03:54:09,230 --> 03:54:10,498
questions answered as far

6479
03:54:10,498 --> 03:54:12,199
as what is the measure --

6480
03:54:12,199 --> 03:54:13,801
what is the measurable

6481
03:54:13,801 --> 03:54:14,668
value of adding one

6482
03:54:14,668 --> 03:54:15,470
police officer, let's

6483
03:54:15,470 --> 03:54:18,470
say, and how that relates

6484
03:54:19,606 --> 03:54:20,941
to the crime rate, pick

6485
03:54:20,941 --> 03:54:21,542
your crime, right?

6486
03:54:21,542 --> 03:54:22,343
Violent crimes.

6487
03:54:22,343 --> 03:54:22,877
I don't know the answer

6488
03:54:22,877 --> 03:54:24,877
to that.

6489
03:54:24,912 --> 03:54:26,547
You know, if you add one

6490
03:54:26,547 --> 03:54:28,820
officer, or you add ten

6491
03:54:28,820 --> 03:54:29,316
officers or 20 officers,

6492
03:54:29,316 --> 03:54:30,684
you know, what is the

6493
03:54:30,684 --> 03:54:31,819
impact on rapes or

6494
03:54:31,819 --> 03:54:32,286
homicides or property

6495
03:54:32,286 --> 03:54:33,754
crime.

6496
03:54:33,754 --> 03:54:36,154
Does anybody have that?

6497
03:54:36,624 --> 03:54:38,250
I mean --

6498
03:54:38,250 --> 03:54:39,894
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

6499
03:54:39,894 --> 03:54:40,761
councilmember mckee

6500
03:54:40,761 --> 03:54:42,761
rodriguez's statement

6501
03:54:43,497 --> 03:54:45,266
increase in police does

6502
03:54:45,266 --> 03:54:48,102
not necessary my make it

6503
03:54:48,102 --> 03:54:48,769
more safe; however, I'll

6504
03:54:48,769 --> 03:54:49,970
answer your direct

6505
03:54:49,970 --> 03:54:52,970
question in a second, but

6506
03:54:53,174 --> 03:54:53,641
it does make people feel

6507
03:54:53,641 --> 03:54:55,750
safe.

6508
03:54:55,750 --> 03:54:58,750
The more they see police

6509
03:54:58,112 --> 03:54:58,512
officers, the safer they

6510
03:54:58,512 --> 03:55:00,447
feel.

6511
03:55:00,447 --> 03:55:01,382
If you add police

6512
03:55:01,382 --> 03:55:03,217
officers to patrol,

6513
03:55:03,217 --> 03:55:04,518
you're going to be able

6514
03:55:04,518 --> 03:55:04,751
to decrease response

6515
03:55:04,751 --> 03:55:06,751
times.

6516
03:55:07,855 --> 03:55:10,255
If you add investigators

6517
03:55:12,920 --> 03:55:13,327
to homicide unit or svu,

6518
03:55:13,327 --> 03:55:14,729
you will be able to clear

6519
03:55:14,729 --> 03:55:17,564
more cases in less amount

6520
03:55:17,564 --> 03:55:20,670
of time, so it -- it kind

6521
03:55:20,670 --> 03:55:21,835
of works out like that.

6522
03:55:21,835 --> 03:55:25,435
If you want to invest in

6523
03:55:25,473 --> 03:55:26,474
specific areas, you're

6524
03:55:26,474 --> 03:55:29,474
going to see a benefit

6525
03:55:30,310 --> 03:55:31,846
from it in one respect or

6526
03:55:31,846 --> 03:55:32,713
another depending upon

6527
03:55:32,713 --> 03:55:34,382
what area the police

6528
03:55:34,382 --> 03:55:35,983
department is in,

6529
03:55:35,983 --> 03:55:37,318
response times or

6530
03:55:37,318 --> 03:55:39,153
investigative clearances,

6531
03:55:39,153 --> 03:55:40,355
safe, engage in community

6532
03:55:40,355 --> 03:55:41,889
more often.

6533
03:55:41,889 --> 03:55:43,240
So I don't know if I'm

6534
03:55:43,240 --> 03:55:45,240
answering your question

6535
03:55:45,826 --> 03:55:47,162
or not.

6536
03:55:47,162 --> 03:55:48,463
>> Pal*ez: you are,

6537
03:55:48,463 --> 03:55:49,664
maybe we're using the

6538
03:55:49,664 --> 03:55:52,640
word study wrong, maybe

6539
03:55:52,199 --> 03:55:52,433
we're talking about a

6540
03:55:52,433 --> 03:55:52,766
survey.

6541
03:55:52,766 --> 03:55:53,600
I don't know.

6542
03:55:53,600 --> 03:55:54,235
I understand survey

6543
03:55:54,235 --> 03:55:55,470
answers.

6544
03:55:55,470 --> 03:55:56,771
I guess what I'm looking

6545
03:55:56,771 --> 03:55:57,805
for is has anybody looked

6546
03:55:57,805 --> 03:55:59,600
at whether or not there's

6547
03:55:59,600 --> 03:56:00,541
a measurable difference,

6548
03:56:00,541 --> 03:56:01,943
right, and what that

6549
03:56:01,943 --> 03:56:02,743
difference is in crime

6550
03:56:02,743 --> 03:56:04,545
rates versus number of

6551
03:56:04,545 --> 03:56:05,346
police officers on or off

6552
03:56:05,346 --> 03:56:05,838
the street?

6553
03:56:05,838 --> 03:56:07,515
I don't know.

6554
03:56:07,515 --> 03:56:09,383
I get it, right?

6555
03:56:09,383 --> 03:56:10,785
It makes people feel

6556
03:56:10,785 --> 03:56:11,919
safer if you see more in

6557
03:56:11,919 --> 03:56:12,987
certain neighborhoods, in

6558
03:56:12,987 --> 03:56:14,255
other neighborhoods it

6559
03:56:14,255 --> 03:56:16,257
doesn't make them feel

6560
03:56:16,257 --> 03:56:17,124
safer, I get that, it's

6561
03:56:17,124 --> 03:56:18,693
an academic question, I

6562
03:56:18,693 --> 03:56:19,661
think it's important one,

6563
03:56:19,661 --> 03:56:20,461
we're talking about

6564
03:56:20,461 --> 03:56:21,996
funding, and we're

6565
03:56:21,996 --> 03:56:23,498
talking about increasing

6566
03:56:23,498 --> 03:56:25,498
academy classes, you

6567
03:56:25,800 --> 03:56:26,968
know, I'm in regard to

6568
03:56:26,968 --> 03:56:28,968
COUNCILMAN Perry's points

6569
03:56:29,370 --> 03:56:30,638
that he was making

6570
03:56:30,638 --> 03:56:32,507
earlier, are we allowed

6571
03:56:32,507 --> 03:56:34,142
to do lateral hires,

6572
03:56:34,142 --> 03:56:35,843
andy?

6573
03:56:35,843 --> 03:56:37,843
>> no.

6574
03:56:38,450 --> 03:56:40,448
>> Pal*ez: the only way

6575
03:56:40,448 --> 03:56:41,716
to get new police

6576
03:56:41,716 --> 03:56:41,949
officers is through the

6577
03:56:41,949 --> 03:56:43,184
academy.

6578
03:56:43,184 --> 03:56:44,219
>> is through the and my,

6579
03:56:44,219 --> 03:56:45,253
that's the only way.

6580
03:56:45,253 --> 03:56:46,687
>> Pal*ez: the other

6581
03:56:46,687 --> 03:56:48,289
thing too I'm looking at

6582
03:56:48,289 --> 03:56:49,957
top three calls officers

6583
03:56:49,957 --> 03:56:50,958
should not have primary

6584
03:56:50,958 --> 03:56:52,293
responsibility for, and I

6585
03:56:52,293 --> 03:56:54,396
understand this is the

6586
03:56:54,396 --> 03:56:56,330
officer's feedback, and

6587
03:56:56,330 --> 03:56:57,531
loud music and child

6588
03:56:57,531 --> 03:56:58,232
custody visitation and

6589
03:56:58,232 --> 03:56:59,334
fireworks, I agree,

6590
03:56:59,334 --> 03:57:01,102
fireworks is, you know,

6591
03:57:01,102 --> 03:57:02,971
probably not where we

6592
03:57:02,971 --> 03:57:04,305
ought to be throwing our

6593
03:57:04,305 --> 03:57:06,141
resource, but child

6594
03:57:06,141 --> 03:57:07,175
custody visitation

6595
03:57:07,175 --> 03:57:08,900
violations, those turn

6596
03:57:08,900 --> 03:57:09,377
deadly, quickly.

6597
03:57:09,377 --> 03:57:10,779
In fact, some of the

6598
03:57:10,779 --> 03:57:13,179
murders that we've talked

6599
03:57:13,648 --> 03:57:14,515
about were child

6600
03:57:14,515 --> 03:57:14,816
visitation scenarios,

6601
03:57:14,816 --> 03:57:16,816
right?

6602
03:57:17,252 --> 03:57:18,320
And I've had some success

6603
03:57:18,320 --> 03:57:19,220
recently in my district

6604
03:57:19,220 --> 03:57:20,955
with police officers

6605
03:57:20,955 --> 03:57:21,823
responding to loud music,

6606
03:57:21,823 --> 03:57:23,823
and particularly a

6607
03:57:24,125 --> 03:57:26,327
certain bar on utsa and

6608
03:57:26,327 --> 03:57:27,950
babcock, that without

6609
03:57:27,950 --> 03:57:29,300
those police officer

6610
03:57:29,300 --> 03:57:30,231
visits, we were getting

6611
03:57:30,231 --> 03:57:31,132
no compliance whatsoever,

6612
03:57:31,132 --> 03:57:33,532
they were driving the

6613
03:57:33,701 --> 03:57:34,536
neighborhood crazy.

6614
03:57:34,536 --> 03:57:35,236
On the other hand, and

6615
03:57:35,236 --> 03:57:37,472
we're going to have to

6616
03:57:37,472 --> 03:57:38,807
visit about this later,

6617
03:57:38,807 --> 03:57:39,975
gentlemen, but I saw a

6618
03:57:39,975 --> 03:57:41,209
video of one of our

6619
03:57:41,209 --> 03:57:43,780
police officers at night

6620
03:57:43,780 --> 03:57:44,790
from the vice squad

6621
03:57:44,790 --> 03:57:47,790
recently, going to a bar

6622
03:57:47,449 --> 03:57:48,383
in district 2, on a noise

6623
03:57:48,383 --> 03:57:49,550
violation, and talking to

6624
03:57:49,550 --> 03:57:51,286
the general manager, and

6625
03:57:51,286 --> 03:57:52,153
then insisting that the

6626
03:57:52,153 --> 03:57:54,289
owner show up, even

6627
03:57:54,289 --> 03:57:55,456
though he was offsite.

6628
03:57:55,456 --> 03:57:56,624
The owner showed up, and

6629
03:57:56,624 --> 03:57:59,240
they arrested the owner,

6630
03:57:59,600 --> 03:58:00,795
because he showed up

6631
03:58:00,795 --> 03:58:01,997
inebriated, he didn't

6632
03:58:01,997 --> 03:58:02,763
drive inebriated, he got

6633
03:58:02,763 --> 03:58:04,990
someone to drive him

6634
03:58:04,990 --> 03:58:04,632
there.

6635
03:58:04,632 --> 03:58:05,500
Look, I'm not driving

6636
03:58:05,500 --> 03:58:07,680
tonight, this is the

6637
03:58:07,680 --> 03:58:08,837
general manager's issue,

6638
03:58:08,837 --> 03:58:09,738
that's why I hire him,

6639
03:58:09,738 --> 03:58:11,390
the charge was operating

6640
03:58:11,390 --> 03:58:12,207
a bar under the

6641
03:58:12,207 --> 03:58:13,274
influence, they summoned

6642
03:58:13,274 --> 03:58:15,274
him to archdiocese

6643
03:58:15,443 --> 03:58:16,778
arrest him, we've

6644
03:58:16,778 --> 03:58:18,446
got a problem, right?

6645
03:58:18,446 --> 03:58:19,948
When peep see videos like

6646
03:58:19,948 --> 03:58:21,249
that, it really angers

6647
03:58:21,249 --> 03:58:22,150
them, it does damage to

6648
03:58:22,150 --> 03:58:23,518
this effort that we're

6649
03:58:23,518 --> 03:58:25,687
trying to -- that we're

6650
03:58:25,687 --> 03:58:25,887
making to increase trust,

6651
03:58:25,887 --> 03:58:27,422
right?

6652
03:58:27,422 --> 03:58:29,157
And so we have -- I get

6653
03:58:29,157 --> 03:58:30,240
it, and your job is not

6654
03:58:30,240 --> 03:58:32,424
easy, managing people out

6655
03:58:35,297 --> 03:58:36,798
there, you know, who --

6656
03:58:36,798 --> 03:58:37,966
you know, deal with

6657
03:58:37,966 --> 03:58:38,700
conflict in different

6658
03:58:38,700 --> 03:58:40,700
ways, right?

6659
03:58:41,436 --> 03:58:42,771
And so my only approach,

6660
03:58:42,771 --> 03:58:43,939
and I just need --

6661
03:58:43,939 --> 03:58:44,906
because my constituents

6662
03:58:44,906 --> 03:58:47,275
MAY be watching right

6663
03:58:47,275 --> 03:58:48,977
now, my only approach the

6664
03:58:48,977 --> 03:58:50,478
entire time is to make

6665
03:58:50,478 --> 03:58:51,813
sure that when andy's

6666
03:58:51,813 --> 03:58:53,882
family or when john's

6667
03:58:53,882 --> 03:58:55,160
family or when mario's

6668
03:58:55,160 --> 03:58:57,160
family, when anna's

6669
03:58:57,386 --> 03:58:58,152
family calls 911, or

6670
03:58:58,152 --> 03:59:00,152
anybody's family out

6671
03:59:00,756 --> 03:59:02,190
there in the audience

6672
03:59:02,190 --> 03:59:03,558
calls 911, that answers

6673
03:59:03,558 --> 03:59:04,426
sooner than later, right?

6674
03:59:04,426 --> 03:59:06,595
And I think that's what

6675
03:59:06,595 --> 03:59:07,950
the general public all

6676
03:59:07,950 --> 03:59:09,464
over san antonio expects

6677
03:59:09,464 --> 03:59:10,365
of us, and so to the

6678
03:59:10,365 --> 03:59:12,670
extent that we're

6679
03:59:12,670 --> 03:59:13,568
funding, you know, mental

6680
03:59:13,568 --> 03:59:14,303
health workers and police

6681
03:59:14,303 --> 03:59:15,300
officers, all that,

6682
03:59:15,300 --> 03:59:15,670
that's a great

6683
03:59:15,670 --> 03:59:16,571
conversation, I really

6684
03:59:16,571 --> 03:59:18,407
want to have that one,

6685
03:59:18,407 --> 03:59:20,750
but never at the expense

6686
03:59:20,750 --> 03:59:20,742
of 911 response times, so

6687
03:59:20,742 --> 03:59:21,877
anyway, I think you're

6688
03:59:21,877 --> 03:59:23,311
doing a great job, and

6689
03:59:23,311 --> 03:59:24,446
you take a lot of heat,

6690
03:59:24,446 --> 03:59:25,347
sometimes you deserve it,

6691
03:59:25,347 --> 03:59:26,810
sometimes you don't.

6692
03:59:26,810 --> 03:59:27,349
But I appreciate you

6693
03:59:27,349 --> 03:59:27,715
being here.

6694
03:59:27,715 --> 03:59:28,150
Thanks, chief.

6695
03:59:28,150 --> 03:59:30,150
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

6696
03:59:30,552 --> 03:59:30,718
thank you, councilmember

6697
03:59:30,718 --> 03:59:31,186
pala

6698
03:59:31,186 --> 03:59:33,186
ez.

6699
03:59:34,690 --> 03:59:35,190
Councilmember sandoval?

6700
03:59:35,190 --> 03:59:36,491
>> Sandoval: thank you.

6701
03:59:36,491 --> 03:59:37,492
i do have a question

6702
03:59:37,492 --> 03:59:37,993
about fireworks

6703
03:59:37,993 --> 03:59:38,661
enforcement.

6704
03:59:38,661 --> 03:59:40,620
Is that something that

6705
03:59:40,620 --> 03:59:40,962
can be enforced by

6706
03:59:40,962 --> 03:59:41,496
somebody else who is not

6707
03:59:41,496 --> 03:59:42,764
the police?

6708
03:59:42,764 --> 03:59:43,565
I thought there was

6709
03:59:43,565 --> 03:59:44,766
some -- can you tell me

6710
03:59:44,766 --> 03:59:47,166
how that would work?

6711
03:59:47,202 --> 03:59:48,270
>> chief: yes, so we're

6712
03:59:48,270 --> 03:59:50,839
not the only ones that

6713
03:59:50,839 --> 03:59:52,241
could write a citation

6714
03:59:52,241 --> 03:59:53,341
for that.

6715
03:59:53,341 --> 03:59:54,376
Code compliance would

6716
03:59:54,376 --> 03:59:54,576
write a citation for

6717
03:59:54,576 --> 03:59:55,778
that.

6718
03:59:55,778 --> 03:59:56,812
I don't want to speak for

6719
03:59:56,812 --> 03:59:58,180
my brother back there,

6720
03:59:58,180 --> 03:59:58,814
charles, but his

6721
03:59:58,814 --> 04:00:00,181
department could probably

6722
04:00:00,181 --> 04:00:00,649
get involved in it as

6723
04:00:00,649 --> 04:00:02,649
well.

6724
04:00:05,454 --> 04:00:06,488
Sorry, charles.

6725
04:00:06,488 --> 04:00:07,422
>> and then let me ask

6726
04:00:07,422 --> 04:00:08,590
you, can you remind me

6727
04:00:08,590 --> 04:00:10,225
how you measure or how

6728
04:00:10,225 --> 04:00:12,625
you define response time?

6729
04:00:13,729 --> 04:00:15,898
>> chief: yes, so if --

6730
04:00:15,898 --> 04:00:17,666
I'm a all the taker, as

6731
04:00:17,666 --> 04:00:19,134
soon as I pick that phone

6732
04:00:19,134 --> 04:00:20,936
up, response time begins,

6733
04:00:20,936 --> 04:00:21,704
and it ends when the

6734
04:00:21,704 --> 04:00:22,504
officer actually arrives

6735
04:00:22,504 --> 04:00:23,638
on the scene, and the

6736
04:00:23,638 --> 04:00:26,380
officer will either say,

6737
04:00:26,374 --> 04:00:27,976
you know, 10-6, which

6738
04:00:27,976 --> 04:00:29,779
means I'm on the scene,

6739
04:00:29,779 --> 04:00:32,779
or the geo fencing will

6740
04:00:33,382 --> 04:00:34,216
pick it up and have an

6741
04:00:34,216 --> 04:00:36,216
automatic response sent

6742
04:00:37,586 --> 04:00:38,653
to the cad system.

6743
04:00:38,653 --> 04:00:40,653
So from

6744
04:00:46,495 --> 04:00:50,766
so from the time -- >> chief: there's a call

6745
04:00:50,766 --> 04:00:52,334
taker and dispatcher.

6746
04:00:52,334 --> 04:00:54,103
It ends when the officer

6747
04:00:54,103 --> 04:00:54,503
arrives on the scene.

6748
04:00:54,503 --> 04:00:55,137
>> Sandoval: okay.

6749
04:00:55,137 --> 04:00:57,137
Thank you.

6750
04:00:58,507 --> 04:01:02,107
And then so if I'm the

6751
04:01:03,110 --> 04:01:04,680
person who makes the

6752
04:01:04,680 --> 04:01:05,314
call, I just want to make

6753
04:01:05,314 --> 04:01:06,182
sure we're talking about

6754
04:01:06,182 --> 04:01:07,783
the same thing, because

6755
04:01:07,783 --> 04:01:09,151
that is how the public is

6756
04:01:09,151 --> 04:01:12,151
going to see the numbers

6757
04:01:12,488 --> 04:01:15,958
is how am I measuring it?

6758
04:01:15,958 --> 04:01:17,293
I -- I think part of the

6759
04:01:17,293 --> 04:01:19,293
conversation we're having

6760
04:01:19,562 --> 04:01:20,796
is because pd is the only

6761
04:01:20,796 --> 04:01:21,997
department who responds

6762
04:01:21,997 --> 04:01:24,266
24 -- well, and the fire

6763
04:01:24,266 --> 04:01:26,340
department of course,

6764
04:01:26,340 --> 04:01:28,340
respond 24-7, right?

6765
04:01:28,537 --> 04:01:29,405
So I'm glad to see us

6766
04:01:29,405 --> 04:01:30,606
having this conversation,

6767
04:01:30,606 --> 04:01:31,707
and for us to actually

6768
04:01:31,707 --> 04:01:33,142
move in the direction of

6769
04:01:33,142 --> 04:01:34,110
diverting some of those

6770
04:01:34,110 --> 04:01:35,444
calls, it means we're

6771
04:01:35,444 --> 04:01:37,747
going to have to invest

6772
04:01:37,747 --> 04:01:41,347
in either code or in acs,

6773
04:01:42,251 --> 04:01:43,850
or whatever it is, as a

6774
04:01:43,850 --> 04:01:44,553
24-7 operation.

6775
04:01:44,553 --> 04:01:45,487
So I think we just need

6776
04:01:45,487 --> 04:01:48,390
to be prepared to make

6777
04:01:48,390 --> 04:01:50,426
that investment as a

6778
04:01:50,426 --> 04:01:51,794
council, and then lastly,

6779
04:01:51,794 --> 04:01:53,620
I heard COUNCILWOMAN

6780
04:01:53,620 --> 04:01:55,462
Viagran mention some sort

6781
04:01:55,998 --> 04:01:57,299
of community input, and

6782
04:01:57,299 --> 04:01:59,299
ongoing community input

6783
04:02:00,803 --> 04:02:02,705
process.

6784
04:02:02,705 --> 04:02:03,372
Almost like some sort of

6785
04:02:03,372 --> 04:02:04,140
advisory board or

6786
04:02:04,140 --> 04:02:04,840
committee, so that you

6787
04:02:04,840 --> 04:02:05,107
have representation by

6788
04:02:05,107 --> 04:02:06,509
district.

6789
04:02:06,509 --> 04:02:08,377
I know, chief, that you

6790
04:02:08,377 --> 04:02:09,779
do convene out of your

6791
04:02:09,779 --> 04:02:10,880
own initiative a group of

6792
04:02:10,880 --> 04:02:12,880
community members.

6793
04:02:13,160 --> 04:02:13,883
I've referred some to

6794
04:02:13,883 --> 04:02:14,950
you.

6795
04:02:14,950 --> 04:02:16,519
And I think it's great

6796
04:02:16,519 --> 04:02:17,253
that you have take than

6797
04:02:17,253 --> 04:02:18,387
initiative, but I can

6798
04:02:18,387 --> 04:02:21,387
also see the benefit of

6799
04:02:22,892 --> 04:02:23,559
having something that is

6800
04:02:23,559 --> 04:02:24,727
council-appointed that is

6801
04:02:24,727 --> 04:02:26,950
more transparent and that

6802
04:02:26,950 --> 04:02:28,464
can bring other issues to

6803
04:02:28,464 --> 04:02:29,432
the table, so I would be

6804
04:02:29,432 --> 04:02:30,533
supportive of further

6805
04:02:30,533 --> 04:02:32,933
exploring that idea, and

6806
04:02:33,736 --> 04:02:34,469
I'm seeing COUNCILWOMAN

6807
04:02:34,469 --> 04:02:35,370
Cabello havrda look at me

6808
04:02:35,370 --> 04:02:37,390
and I would love to know

6809
04:02:37,390 --> 04:02:37,940
what she thinks about

6810
04:02:37,940 --> 04:02:38,373
that, thank you, mayor.

6811
04:02:38,373 --> 04:02:40,373
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

6812
04:02:40,710 --> 04:02:41,277
thank you, councilmember

6813
04:02:41,277 --> 04:02:43,277
sandoval.

6814
04:02:43,612 --> 04:02:44,446
Councilmember courage?

6815
04:02:44,446 --> 04:02:45,147
>> courage: thank you,

6816
04:02:45,147 --> 04:02:46,315
mayor.

6817
04:02:46,315 --> 04:02:47,349
Thanks, chief, for being

6818
04:02:47,349 --> 04:02:49,151
here, I know you do a

6819
04:02:49,151 --> 04:02:50,887
great job, and all of the

6820
04:02:50,887 --> 04:02:51,853
sapd officers do, but

6821
04:02:51,853 --> 04:02:54,853
I've got a few questions

6822
04:02:55,457 --> 04:02:57,126
I wanted to check on.

6823
04:02:57,126 --> 04:03:00,126
First of all, crime is

6824
04:03:00,829 --> 04:03:03,532
down around the city, and

6825
04:03:03,532 --> 04:03:04,233
I know from my

6826
04:03:04,233 --> 04:03:06,233
observations and looking

6827
04:03:06,235 --> 04:03:07,603
at some of the reports

6828
04:03:07,603 --> 04:03:08,237
around that my particular

6829
04:03:08,237 --> 04:03:09,972
district has a pretty

6830
04:03:09,972 --> 04:03:11,730
much lower crime rate

6831
04:03:11,730 --> 04:03:13,410
than many other parts of

6832
04:03:13,410 --> 04:03:13,909
the city, district 9,

6833
04:03:13,909 --> 04:03:14,910
north central parts of

6834
04:03:14,910 --> 04:03:16,478
town.

6835
04:03:16,478 --> 04:03:19,281
And once in a while, I

6836
04:03:19,281 --> 04:03:20,249
get on lexus nexus and I

6837
04:03:20,249 --> 04:03:21,784
take a look at that, and

6838
04:03:21,784 --> 04:03:22,551
that shows, geez, all

6839
04:03:22,551 --> 04:03:23,986
kinds of crimes that

6840
04:03:23,986 --> 04:03:25,355
occur all over the city

6841
04:03:25,355 --> 04:03:26,422
and you can zoom in on

6842
04:03:26,422 --> 04:03:27,957
your part of town and

6843
04:03:27,957 --> 04:03:29,258
kind of see what's there,

6844
04:03:29,258 --> 04:03:30,459
and you can say I only

6845
04:03:30,459 --> 04:03:31,527
want to see this kind of

6846
04:03:31,527 --> 04:03:32,395
crime or that kind of

6847
04:03:32,395 --> 04:03:33,663
crime or all

6848
04:03:33,663 --> 04:03:34,864
all of them.

6849
04:03:34,864 --> 04:03:36,198
It's pretty amazing when

6850
04:03:36,198 --> 04:03:37,433
you see all of those

6851
04:03:37,433 --> 04:03:38,534
little marks down there,

6852
04:03:38,534 --> 04:03:39,536
those icons that show the

6853
04:03:39,536 --> 04:03:40,336
different kinds of

6854
04:03:40,336 --> 04:03:42,336
crimes.

6855
04:03:47,176 --> 04:03:47,810
Is there fairly

6856
04:03:47,810 --> 04:03:49,479
reflective of what you

6857
04:03:49,479 --> 04:03:51,140
get in the way of calls.

6858
04:03:51,140 --> 04:03:53,140
>> chief: councilmember,

6859
04:03:53,649 --> 04:03:54,951
I'm not a user of lexus

6860
04:03:54,951 --> 04:03:57,786
nexus or any of those

6861
04:03:57,786 --> 04:03:59,254
online crime reporting

6862
04:03:59,254 --> 04:03:59,822
apps, so I can't answer

6863
04:03:59,822 --> 04:04:01,822
your question.

6864
04:04:01,824 --> 04:04:04,627
I know what I read every

6865
04:04:04,627 --> 04:04:06,796
day and see every day,

6866
04:04:06,796 --> 04:04:08,331
coming from our analytics

6867
04:04:08,331 --> 04:04:11,331
unit, but I can't compare

6868
04:04:12,668 --> 04:04:14,668
with what's online.

6869
04:04:14,904 --> 04:04:16,272
>> Courage: well, I

6870
04:04:16,272 --> 04:04:17,173
guess that comes to me

6871
04:04:17,173 --> 04:04:19,800
requesting, can you send

6872
04:04:19,800 --> 04:04:19,675
me and all councilmembers

6873
04:04:19,675 --> 04:04:20,676
reports on what the

6874
04:04:20,676 --> 04:04:22,211
crimes are in our

6875
04:04:22,211 --> 04:04:22,445
districts at least every

6876
04:04:22,445 --> 04:04:23,379
quarter?

6877
04:04:23,379 --> 04:04:25,347
Because I know it changes

6878
04:04:25,347 --> 04:04:26,516
from week to week, month

6879
04:04:26,516 --> 04:04:28,251
to month, so that when

6880
04:04:28,251 --> 04:04:30,420
people ask me, you know,

6881
04:04:30,420 --> 04:04:32,254
what's going on in my

6882
04:04:32,254 --> 04:04:33,789
district, I can fairly

6883
04:04:33,789 --> 04:04:35,258
accurate in how I portray

6884
04:04:35,258 --> 04:04:36,859
it.

6885
04:04:36,859 --> 04:04:38,461
>> COUNCILMAN, I was

6886
04:04:38,461 --> 04:04:41,331
going to mention that our

6887
04:04:41,331 --> 04:04:42,498
public safety chair, the

6888
04:04:42,498 --> 04:04:43,733
public safety committee,

6889
04:04:43,733 --> 04:04:44,868
have requested that we do

6890
04:04:44,868 --> 04:04:46,302
that public safety

6891
04:04:46,302 --> 04:04:47,770
committee, that we review

6892
04:04:47,770 --> 04:04:49,380
crime statistics on a

6893
04:04:49,380 --> 04:04:51,207
quarterly basis, so we

6894
04:04:51,207 --> 04:04:52,608
will be able to address

6895
04:04:52,608 --> 04:04:54,177
your request to the whole

6896
04:04:54,177 --> 04:04:55,277
council as well.

6897
04:04:55,277 --> 04:04:56,613
>> Courage: so they'll

6898
04:04:56,613 --> 04:04:57,980
receive it, they'll look

6899
04:04:57,980 --> 04:04:59,148
at it, but then you can

6900
04:04:59,148 --> 04:04:59,549
send it to each

6901
04:04:59,549 --> 04:05:00,383
individual council

6902
04:05:00,383 --> 04:05:01,651
district so we'll know

6903
04:05:01,651 --> 04:05:03,285
what our district --

6904
04:05:03,285 --> 04:05:03,886
>> yes, councilmember.

6905
04:05:03,886 --> 04:05:04,420
>> Courage: okay.

6906
04:05:04,420 --> 04:05:05,188
That's great.

6907
04:05:05,188 --> 04:05:06,550
I think that is

6908
04:05:06,550 --> 04:05:06,956
important.

6909
04:05:06,956 --> 04:05:07,791
Maria, I had another

6910
04:05:07,791 --> 04:05:10,191
question for you. When

6911
04:05:10,226 --> 04:05:11,594
we're talking with sap oa

6912
04:05:11,594 --> 04:05:13,932
in our negotiations right

6913
04:05:13,932 --> 04:05:16,932
now, what is the status

6914
04:05:17,267 --> 04:05:18,334
of prior history of

6915
04:05:18,334 --> 04:05:19,100
discipline being

6916
04:05:19,100 --> 04:05:21,100
addressed in our

6917
04:05:21,400 --> 04:05:23,400
negotiations?

6918
04:05:23,720 --> 04:05:24,174
>> so we don't have

6919
04:05:24,174 --> 04:05:25,441
consensus yet. What the

6920
04:05:25,441 --> 04:05:27,143
association did is they

6921
04:05:27,143 --> 04:05:29,879
gave us a proposal for

6922
04:05:29,879 --> 04:05:31,614
the arbitrators 30

6923
04:05:31,614 --> 04:05:33,283
regarding discipline,

6924
04:05:33,283 --> 04:05:34,160
they incorporated into

6925
04:05:34,160 --> 04:05:35,785
that language the fact

6926
04:05:35,785 --> 04:05:37,520
that we could look at all

6927
04:05:37,520 --> 04:05:39,322
discipline for that

6928
04:05:39,322 --> 04:05:41,722
employee, but we, the

6929
04:05:42,425 --> 04:05:46,250
city, are not -- have not

6930
04:05:47,330 --> 04:05:49,990
accepted that proposal,

6931
04:05:49,990 --> 04:05:49,999
because doesn't meet our

6932
04:05:49,999 --> 04:05:52,669
goal which is to give

6933
04:05:52,669 --> 04:05:55,690
authority to the chief.

6934
04:05:58,740 --> 04:05:59,609
So for the fact being

6935
04:05:59,609 --> 04:06:00,477
combined with the

6936
04:06:00,477 --> 04:06:02,450
arbitrator's authority,

6937
04:06:02,450 --> 04:06:03,213
we've had conversations

6938
04:06:03,213 --> 04:06:04,548
including all discipline,

6939
04:06:04,548 --> 04:06:05,715
all prior discipline of

6940
04:06:05,715 --> 04:06:05,882
police officer

6941
04:06:05,882 --> 04:06:06,516
.

6942
04:06:06,516 --> 04:06:07,517
>> Courage: right.

6943
04:06:07,517 --> 04:06:08,852
I think that is an

6944
04:06:08,852 --> 04:06:09,452
important part of our

6945
04:06:09,452 --> 04:06:10,453
negotiations.

6946
04:06:10,453 --> 04:06:11,988
Okay.

6947
04:06:11,988 --> 04:06:14,988
One of the requests by

6948
04:06:16,426 --> 04:06:17,930
the community was more

6949
04:06:17,930 --> 04:06:18,228
engagement with the

6950
04:06:18,228 --> 04:06:19,696
police, they even said

6951
04:06:19,696 --> 04:06:20,529
more engagement out of

6952
04:06:20,529 --> 04:06:22,365
uniform to be involved.

6953
04:06:22,365 --> 04:06:25,965
So let me ask, chief, how

6954
04:06:26,836 --> 04:06:27,704
strong is sapd youth

6955
04:06:27,704 --> 04:06:29,704
involvement, for example,

6956
04:06:30,507 --> 04:06:31,574
do we still have a very

6957
04:06:31,574 --> 04:06:33,574
active police

6958
04:06:35,378 --> 04:06:37,378
thickically? That's

6959
04:06:37,547 --> 04:06:39,549
correctly, do we have

6960
04:06:39,549 --> 04:06:41,451
police help out ymca,

6961
04:06:41,451 --> 04:06:43,720
boys clubs, girls clubs,

6962
04:06:43,720 --> 04:06:44,321
do they go to any of the

6963
04:06:44,321 --> 04:06:46,890
neighborhood community

6964
04:06:46,890 --> 04:06:46,923
centers and get involved?

6965
04:06:46,923 --> 04:06:47,958
And is there a process or

6966
04:06:47,958 --> 04:06:49,192
a procedure or a

6967
04:06:49,192 --> 04:06:51,192
recommendation that

6968
04:06:51,628 --> 04:06:53,296
goes out to our officers

6969
04:06:53,296 --> 04:06:55,765
to get them involved or

6970
04:06:55,765 --> 04:06:57,634
to kind of monitor that?

6971
04:06:57,634 --> 04:07:00,340
>> chief: so the answer

6972
04:07:00,603 --> 04:07:03,139
to your question, and I'm

6973
04:07:03,139 --> 04:07:03,874
going to -- this is on

6974
04:07:03,874 --> 04:07:04,608
duty stuff.

6975
04:07:04,608 --> 04:07:06,376
The answer to your

6976
04:07:06,376 --> 04:07:08,879
question is, yes, we have

6977
04:07:08,879 --> 04:07:09,379
a very active pal

6978
04:07:09,379 --> 04:07:12,379
program, as a matter of

6979
04:07:17,870 --> 04:07:19,487
fact, just recently in

6980
04:07:20,156 --> 04:07:21,825
district 5, there was a

6981
04:07:21,825 --> 04:07:22,359
box -- sorry.

6982
04:07:22,359 --> 04:07:23,760
[Chuckling]

6983
04:07:23,760 --> 04:07:24,761
There was a boxing -- I

6984
04:07:24,761 --> 04:07:27,761
don't know what you want

6985
04:07:28,231 --> 04:07:30,433
to call it, exhibition or

6986
04:07:30,433 --> 04:07:30,867
a boxing calf that was

6987
04:07:30,867 --> 04:07:32,867
put

6988
04:07:35,472 --> 04:07:37,441
camp that wasput on by one of our park

6989
04:07:37,441 --> 04:07:38,775
police officers who has a

6990
04:07:38,775 --> 04:07:40,943
boxing gym in district 5,

6991
04:07:40,943 --> 04:07:42,112
and he is always doing

6992
04:07:42,112 --> 04:07:44,512
things with kids in

6993
04:07:47,283 --> 04:07:47,517
regards to his boxing

6994
04:07:47,517 --> 04:07:49,486
program.

6995
04:07:49,486 --> 04:07:50,920
We have a -- a program

6996
04:07:50,920 --> 04:07:52,756
that we've been doing for

6997
04:07:52,756 --> 04:07:53,957
a few years now called

6998
04:07:53,957 --> 04:07:55,957
success through respect,

6999
04:07:57,261 --> 04:07:58,896
and we go to the schools,

7000
04:07:58,896 --> 04:07:59,663
with go to other venues

7001
04:07:59,663 --> 04:08:01,965
and put that on.

7002
04:08:01,965 --> 04:08:03,667
I was at one about two,

7003
04:08:03,667 --> 04:08:04,601
three saturdays ago, at

7004
04:08:04,601 --> 04:08:07,370
one of the schools over

7005
04:08:07,370 --> 04:08:09,272
on the east side, doing a

7006
04:08:09,272 --> 04:08:10,607
success to respect

7007
04:08:10,607 --> 04:08:11,374
program.

7008
04:08:11,374 --> 04:08:13,310
Officer doug green, I

7009
04:08:13,310 --> 04:08:14,410
don't know if that name

7010
04:08:14,410 --> 04:08:15,912
sounds familiar to any of

7011
04:08:15,912 --> 04:08:18,312
you, but officer doug

7012
04:08:19,820 --> 04:08:20,150
green is -- came up with

7013
04:08:20,150 --> 04:08:21,819
that program.

7014
04:08:21,819 --> 04:08:24,819
We have programs that we

7015
04:08:25,355 --> 04:08:26,189
put on for students at

7016
04:08:26,189 --> 04:08:27,891
our academy, we bring

7017
04:08:27,891 --> 04:08:28,825
them in, we run them

7018
04:08:28,825 --> 04:08:31,225
through the same training

7019
04:08:31,328 --> 04:08:31,861
that some of our

7020
04:08:31,861 --> 04:08:33,861
councilmembers have been

7021
04:08:34,131 --> 04:08:35,432
through, last few months.

7022
04:08:35,432 --> 04:08:37,367
So, yeah, the answer to

7023
04:08:37,367 --> 04:08:38,501
your question is yes, we

7024
04:08:38,501 --> 04:08:39,502
do have a strong outreach

7025
04:08:39,502 --> 04:08:40,970
program with youth coming

7026
04:08:40,970 --> 04:08:43,340
from our -- our officers

7027
04:08:43,340 --> 04:08:44,975
on the department.

7028
04:08:44,975 --> 04:08:46,543
>> COUNCILMAN, are you

7029
04:08:46,543 --> 04:08:47,978
seeing maybe there's a --

7030
04:08:47,978 --> 04:08:48,812
maybe a gap there, or an

7031
04:08:48,812 --> 04:08:50,914
opportunity that maybe we

7032
04:08:50,914 --> 04:08:52,549
could take advantage of?

7033
04:08:52,549 --> 04:08:54,317
>> well, I think from

7034
04:08:54,317 --> 04:08:55,519
what I'm hearing you're

7035
04:08:55,519 --> 04:08:57,221
talking about on duty in

7036
04:08:57,221 --> 04:08:58,210
uniform, and I think what

7037
04:08:58,210 --> 04:09:00,224
the community is asking

7038
04:09:00,224 --> 04:09:01,658
for is more offduty out

7039
04:09:01,658 --> 04:09:03,930
of uniform as a member of

7040
04:09:03,930 --> 04:09:05,493
the community showing up

7041
04:09:05,662 --> 04:09:06,863
and being involved, and,

7042
04:09:06,863 --> 04:09:07,998
you know, I think the

7043
04:09:07,998 --> 04:09:09,998
city does that.

7044
04:09:10,340 --> 04:09:10,867
We ask our city staff to

7045
04:09:10,867 --> 04:09:12,200
volunteer for different

7046
04:09:12,200 --> 04:09:14,104
things all the time.

7047
04:09:14,104 --> 04:09:14,971
And they do, and it's on

7048
04:09:14,971 --> 04:09:16,807
their own time.

7049
04:09:16,807 --> 04:09:18,942
Maybe we compensate them

7050
04:09:18,942 --> 04:09:19,142
for doing something like

7051
04:09:19,142 --> 04:09:21,142
that.

7052
04:09:22,120 --> 04:09:22,246
And I -- and I think

7053
04:09:22,246 --> 04:09:22,980
that's.

7054
04:09:22,980 --> 04:09:24,481
[Lapse in audio]

7055
04:09:24,481 --> 04:09:25,983
Real community engagement

7056
04:09:25,983 --> 04:09:27,284
so that people don't see

7057
04:09:27,284 --> 04:09:28,185
a uniform, they see a

7058
04:09:28,185 --> 04:09:29,887
real human being out

7059
04:09:29,887 --> 04:09:32,422
there doing things so --

7060
04:09:32,422 --> 04:09:33,657
I would like to see if we

7061
04:09:33,657 --> 04:09:35,826
can enhance that kind of

7062
04:09:35,826 --> 04:09:38,595
a program and track it so

7063
04:09:38,595 --> 04:09:40,831
that we can see out of 24

7064
04:09:40,831 --> 04:09:43,133
police officers, do we

7065
04:09:43,133 --> 04:09:44,668
have ten doing things?

7066
04:09:44,668 --> 04:09:45,469
50 doing things?

7067
04:09:45,469 --> 04:09:46,870
Or 500 doing things?

7068
04:09:46,870 --> 04:09:48,472
>> you know, COUNCILMAN,

7069
04:09:48,472 --> 04:09:49,172
I do know that our police

7070
04:09:49,172 --> 04:09:50,674
officers volunteer on

7071
04:09:50,674 --> 04:09:52,142
their own time in

7072
04:09:52,142 --> 04:09:53,100
different activities

7073
04:09:53,100 --> 04:09:54,678
across the community,

7074
04:09:54,678 --> 04:09:55,846
food bank, helping during

7075
04:09:55,846 --> 04:09:57,681
christmas to provide toys

7076
04:09:57,681 --> 04:09:59,449
to kids.

7077
04:09:59,449 --> 04:10:00,184
We don't measure that to

7078
04:10:00,184 --> 04:10:01,485
your point, that's

7079
04:10:01,485 --> 04:10:03,587
something that we can do,

7080
04:10:03,587 --> 04:10:05,210
but they do volunteer,

7081
04:10:05,210 --> 04:10:07,190
and I think what we need

7082
04:10:07,190 --> 04:10:09,926
to do better is let the

7083
04:10:09,926 --> 04:10:11,926
community know, because

7084
04:10:12,290 --> 04:10:12,796
they're not on their

7085
04:10:12,796 --> 04:10:14,598
uniforms, probably the

7086
04:10:14,598 --> 04:10:15,733
community doesn't make

7087
04:10:15,733 --> 04:10:17,601
the connection they're

7088
04:10:17,601 --> 04:10:19,469
from the police

7089
04:10:19,469 --> 04:10:21,538
department, but they do,

7090
04:10:21,538 --> 04:10:22,105
definitely we can track

7091
04:10:22,105 --> 04:10:23,607
those volunteer

7092
04:10:23,607 --> 04:10:24,107
activities they

7093
04:10:24,107 --> 04:10:24,908
participate on.

7094
04:10:24,908 --> 04:10:26,430
>> Courage: I don't

7095
04:10:26,430 --> 04:10:27,378
want to interfere with

7096
04:10:27,378 --> 04:10:28,345
the lives of our police

7097
04:10:28,345 --> 04:10:29,981
officers, but I think we

7098
04:10:29,981 --> 04:10:31,749
hold them to a higher

7099
04:10:31,749 --> 04:10:32,850
standard and higher

7100
04:10:32,850 --> 04:10:33,517
expectation, I think

7101
04:10:33,517 --> 04:10:34,585
that's what the community

7102
04:10:34,585 --> 04:10:35,190
is asking for.

7103
04:10:35,190 --> 04:10:36,253
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7104
04:10:36,253 --> 04:10:36,620
thank you, councilmember

7105
04:10:36,620 --> 04:10:38,620
courage.

7106
04:10:39,557 --> 04:10:39,990
>> Courage: my time is

7107
04:10:39,990 --> 04:10:41,425
up?

7108
04:10:41,425 --> 04:10:41,959
Okay, I'll come back.

7109
04:10:41,959 --> 04:10:42,326
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7110
04:10:42,326 --> 04:10:44,326
councilmember --

7111
04:10:46,530 --> 04:10:47,498
>> it's cardonnas boxing

7112
04:10:47,498 --> 04:10:48,365
gym in district 5.

7113
04:10:48,365 --> 04:10:50,600
Thank you for your team

7114
04:10:50,600 --> 04:10:51,835
for providing district 5

7115
04:10:51,835 --> 04:10:52,836
with the district 5

7116
04:10:52,836 --> 04:10:54,471
uniform crime report,

7117
04:10:54,471 --> 04:10:56,640
what that data shows us

7118
04:10:56,640 --> 04:10:58,409
is that the majority of

7119
04:10:58,409 --> 04:10:59,811
crimes in district 5 are

7120
04:10:59,811 --> 04:11:00,811
property crimes, that

7121
04:11:00,811 --> 04:11:02,479
aligns with the stories

7122
04:11:02,479 --> 04:11:04,248
you was hearing on the

7123
04:11:04,248 --> 04:11:05,416
door, there are dark

7124
04:11:05,416 --> 04:11:07,816
alleyways and folks were

7125
04:11:07,852 --> 04:11:09,190
jumping the gate to steal

7126
04:11:09,190 --> 04:11:10,870
whatever was in the back

7127
04:11:10,870 --> 04:11:11,550
yard, the main street was

7128
04:11:11,550 --> 04:11:12,656
very dark, and people

7129
04:11:12,656 --> 04:11:13,857
were stealing their patio

7130
04:11:13,857 --> 04:11:16,257
furniture, so I support

7131
04:11:18,663 --> 04:11:19,530
the initiative for index

7132
04:11:19,530 --> 04:11:20,364
study where we need to

7133
04:11:20,364 --> 04:11:22,364
increase lighting.

7134
04:11:24,335 --> 04:11:25,680
I think the heat map

7135
04:11:25,680 --> 04:11:26,303
would be good to.

7136
04:11:26,303 --> 04:11:27,538
[Lapse in audio]

7137
04:11:27,538 --> 04:11:29,938
In addition to that,

7138
04:11:30,740 --> 04:11:30,741
yesterday I attended a

7139
04:11:30,741 --> 04:11:32,343
neighborhood association

7140
04:11:32,343 --> 04:11:33,810
meeting, I spoke with our

7141
04:11:33,810 --> 04:11:35,412
safe officer luis, and

7142
04:11:35,412 --> 04:11:37,281
the majority of questions

7143
04:11:37,281 --> 04:11:39,450
directed at officer luis

7144
04:11:39,450 --> 04:11:41,450
was questions regarding

7145
04:11:41,452 --> 04:11:42,519
homelessness and loose

7146
04:11:42,519 --> 04:11:43,654
dog, I think there's room

7147
04:11:43,654 --> 04:11:46,190
there that we need to

7148
04:11:46,190 --> 04:11:47,592
invest in outreach, as

7149
04:11:47,592 --> 04:11:48,893
well as supporting animal

7150
04:11:48,893 --> 04:11:50,628
care service to ensure

7151
04:11:50,628 --> 04:11:52,629
that the burden is not

7152
04:11:52,629 --> 04:11:54,231
all falling on sapd, and

7153
04:11:54,231 --> 04:11:54,665
those are my comments.

7154
04:11:54,665 --> 04:11:56,665
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7155
04:11:56,800 --> 04:11:57,568
thank you, councilmember

7156
04:11:57,568 --> 04:11:59,568
castillo, councilmember,

7157
04:11:59,937 --> 04:12:01,720
cabello havrda?

7158
04:12:01,720 --> 04:12:03,720
>> cabello havrda.

7159
04:12:03,107 --> 04:12:05,900
Thank you, mayor.

7160
04:12:05,900 --> 04:12:05,976
The safe officer program,

7161
04:12:05,976 --> 04:12:08,976
you have a slide that

7162
04:12:09,130 --> 04:12:10,614
says how can sapd build

7163
04:12:10,614 --> 04:12:10,948
better community

7164
04:12:10,948 --> 04:12:11,949
relationships?

7165
04:12:11,949 --> 04:12:13,450
I found that to be the

7166
04:12:13,450 --> 04:12:14,251
number one way to improve

7167
04:12:14,251 --> 04:12:15,519
relationships with the

7168
04:12:15,519 --> 04:12:16,554
community, and district

7169
04:12:16,554 --> 04:12:17,488
6, and I'm sure

7170
04:12:17,488 --> 04:12:18,655
throughout the city, our

7171
04:12:18,655 --> 04:12:20,758
safe officers go and

7172
04:12:20,758 --> 04:12:22,192
check on our elderly, you

7173
04:12:22,192 --> 04:12:23,600
know, they have a really

7174
04:12:23,600 --> 04:12:23,927
good relationships with

7175
04:12:23,927 --> 04:12:25,729
the neighborhoods.

7176
04:12:25,729 --> 04:12:26,564
Sort of their on-call

7177
04:12:26,564 --> 04:12:27,865
officer, and a lot of

7178
04:12:27,865 --> 04:12:29,660
times they're the face of

7179
04:12:29,660 --> 04:12:30,935
the police department to

7180
04:12:30,935 --> 04:12:31,936
the community, so I

7181
04:12:31,936 --> 04:12:33,936
support that.

7182
04:12:35,707 --> 04:12:38,107
You mentioned the pal

7183
04:12:38,309 --> 04:12:40,309
program, chief, the

7184
04:12:40,311 --> 04:12:41,145
police athletically,

7185
04:12:41,145 --> 04:12:43,145
they're teaching sports

7186
04:12:43,147 --> 04:12:44,949
to at risk youth, and I

7187
04:12:44,949 --> 04:12:46,484
think that is another

7188
04:12:46,484 --> 04:12:47,552
really strong way to

7189
04:12:47,552 --> 04:12:48,520
increase community

7190
04:12:48,520 --> 04:12:49,421
involvement, in the at

7191
04:12:49,421 --> 04:12:49,854
risk areas, where youth

7192
04:12:49,854 --> 04:12:51,220
are at risk.

7193
04:12:51,220 --> 04:12:52,189
Can you talk a little bit

7194
04:12:52,189 --> 04:12:52,790
more about the pal

7195
04:12:52,790 --> 04:12:54,725
program?

7196
04:12:54,725 --> 04:12:56,725
>> chief: sure.

7197
04:12:58,663 --> 04:13:00,231
So there are -- it's not

7198
04:13:00,231 --> 04:13:01,231
a very large unit, only a

7199
04:13:01,231 --> 04:13:02,867
few officers that are

7200
04:13:02,867 --> 04:13:05,102
assigned to it, but they

7201
04:13:05,102 --> 04:13:07,710
run the midnight

7202
04:13:07,710 --> 04:13:08,500
basketball leagues --

7203
04:13:08,500 --> 04:13:09,207
well, everything went

7204
04:13:09,207 --> 04:13:11,750
dormant when we had

7205
04:13:11,750 --> 04:13:11,843
covid, but -- and I'm not

7206
04:13:11,843 --> 04:13:13,277
sure what the schedule is

7207
04:13:13,277 --> 04:13:14,779
for this summer, but

7208
04:13:14,779 --> 04:13:16,181
they've run the midnight

7209
04:13:16,181 --> 04:13:18,181
basketball programs, they

7210
04:13:19,316 --> 04:13:20,919
do basketball

7211
04:13:20,919 --> 04:13:22,486
initiatives, most of the

7212
04:13:22,486 --> 04:13:24,622
time on the weekends the

7213
04:13:24,622 --> 04:13:25,290
ones that I've been to,

7214
04:13:25,290 --> 04:13:26,825
but pretty much anything

7215
04:13:26,825 --> 04:13:29,427
that I've -- I think

7216
04:13:29,427 --> 04:13:31,462
there's a baseball -- a

7217
04:13:31,462 --> 04:13:32,630
baseball team or league

7218
04:13:32,630 --> 04:13:34,640
that pal is involved in

7219
04:13:34,640 --> 04:13:36,333
right now, don't quote me

7220
04:13:36,333 --> 04:13:37,134
on that, I think I was

7221
04:13:37,134 --> 04:13:38,703
talking about that the

7222
04:13:38,703 --> 04:13:40,471
other day, but they're

7223
04:13:40,471 --> 04:13:42,471
constantly involved in

7224
04:13:42,507 --> 04:13:43,507
activities involving --

7225
04:13:43,507 --> 04:13:45,343
involving youth, and one

7226
04:13:45,343 --> 04:13:47,110
of the things that just

7227
04:13:47,110 --> 04:13:49,414
came to mind as we were

7228
04:13:49,414 --> 04:13:51,814
talking about young folks

7229
04:13:52,520 --> 04:13:53,685
is I spoke at marshall

7230
04:13:53,685 --> 04:13:55,353
high school about a month

7231
04:13:55,353 --> 04:13:56,387
or so ago, at their --

7232
04:13:56,387 --> 04:13:57,321
they have a law

7233
04:13:57,321 --> 04:13:59,157
enforcement program, and

7234
04:13:59,157 --> 04:14:00,992
they have a medical

7235
04:14:00,992 --> 04:14:03,294
curriculum as well, if

7236
04:14:03,294 --> 04:14:05,563
you wanted to take that

7237
04:14:05,563 --> 04:14:06,530
track, and there were

7238
04:14:06,530 --> 04:14:07,665
about, I want to say

7239
04:14:07,665 --> 04:14:09,433
probably a couple of

7240
04:14:09,433 --> 04:14:11,833
hundred kids there, and

7241
04:14:13,710 --> 04:14:15,206
their parents, and I

7242
04:14:15,206 --> 04:14:17,308
offered them -- gave them

7243
04:14:17,308 --> 04:14:19,110
all my phone number and

7244
04:14:19,110 --> 04:14:21,913
said if any of your kids

7245
04:14:21,913 --> 04:14:22,746
want to do an internship

7246
04:14:22,746 --> 04:14:23,881
program in the police

7247
04:14:23,881 --> 04:14:25,881
department, call me.

7248
04:14:26,717 --> 04:14:30,917
And I got a few calls, so

7249
04:14:32,657 --> 04:14:33,891
we are starting a two --

7250
04:14:33,891 --> 04:14:35,193
it's not -- we're not

7251
04:14:35,193 --> 04:14:36,270
calling it an internship

7252
04:14:36,270 --> 04:14:38,270
program, but we're

7253
04:14:38,429 --> 04:14:39,764
calling it a summer camp,

7254
04:14:39,764 --> 04:14:41,699
and they're 13 and 14

7255
04:14:41,699 --> 04:14:43,340
years old, they come in

7256
04:14:43,340 --> 04:14:44,535
for a period, in the

7257
04:14:44,535 --> 04:14:45,703
beginning of the summer,

7258
04:14:45,703 --> 04:14:46,938
and then come in during a

7259
04:14:46,938 --> 04:14:47,939
period the end of the

7260
04:14:47,939 --> 04:14:48,807
summer, we started that

7261
04:14:48,807 --> 04:14:50,775
this summer as well.

7262
04:14:50,775 --> 04:14:52,710
>> I'm on the board of

7263
04:14:52,710 --> 04:14:54,913
that program, so I'm glad

7264
04:14:54,913 --> 04:14:56,114
to hear you're there at

7265
04:14:56,114 --> 04:14:58,282
marshall, I'm glad to

7266
04:14:58,282 --> 04:14:59,518
hear you're involved.

7267
04:14:59,518 --> 04:15:00,719
I would be remiss if I

7268
04:15:00,719 --> 04:15:02,420
didn't bring up -- I

7269
04:15:02,420 --> 04:15:04,189
bring up safe and pal and

7270
04:15:04,189 --> 04:15:05,657
good ways to involve the

7271
04:15:05,657 --> 04:15:06,525
community, but we still

7272
04:15:06,525 --> 04:15:07,826
have to worry about the

7273
04:15:07,826 --> 04:15:09,828
street level, the stops,

7274
04:15:09,828 --> 04:15:10,462
right, the everyday

7275
04:15:10,462 --> 04:15:11,562
interactions with the

7276
04:15:11,562 --> 04:15:12,264
police that aren't safe

7277
04:15:12,264 --> 04:15:13,998
officers, that aren't

7278
04:15:13,998 --> 04:15:15,166
with the pal program, so

7279
04:15:15,166 --> 04:15:16,701
continue to work with

7280
04:15:16,701 --> 04:15:18,203
you, chief, on the

7281
04:15:18,203 --> 04:15:19,537
training, increased

7282
04:15:19,537 --> 04:15:20,539
diversity training and

7283
04:15:20,539 --> 04:15:22,400
sensitivity of our

7284
04:15:22,400 --> 04:15:23,975
officers and helping them

7285
04:15:23,975 --> 04:15:24,910
to do their jobs well,

7286
04:15:24,910 --> 04:15:26,910
and better.

7287
04:15:27,345 --> 04:15:28,513
I mean, they always do it

7288
04:15:28,513 --> 04:15:30,140
well, but do it better,

7289
04:15:30,140 --> 04:15:30,649
and making sure that the

7290
04:15:30,649 --> 04:15:31,617
community involvement,

7291
04:15:31,617 --> 04:15:33,351
when we say involvement,

7292
04:15:33,351 --> 04:15:33,985
I really mean that it's a

7293
04:15:33,985 --> 04:15:34,786
partnership.

7294
04:15:34,786 --> 04:15:35,721
There's a way that the

7295
04:15:35,721 --> 04:15:37,880
community is partnering

7296
04:15:37,880 --> 04:15:37,789
with the city to make --

7297
04:15:37,789 --> 04:15:38,590
I'm sorry, the police

7298
04:15:38,590 --> 04:15:39,191
department to make the

7299
04:15:39,191 --> 04:15:40,492
city better.

7300
04:15:40,492 --> 04:15:41,426
Thank you.

7301
04:15:41,426 --> 04:15:42,160
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7302
04:15:42,160 --> 04:15:43,528
great, thank you, cabello

7303
04:15:43,528 --> 04:15:43,962
havrda.

7304
04:15:43,962 --> 04:15:45,163
Okay.

7305
04:15:45,163 --> 04:15:46,531
On this second round,

7306
04:15:46,531 --> 04:15:47,465
please note anything that

7307
04:15:47,465 --> 04:15:48,566
has already been

7308
04:15:48,566 --> 04:15:50,401
discussed doesn't need to

7309
04:15:50,401 --> 04:15:51,736
be rediscussed since

7310
04:15:51,736 --> 04:15:52,504
we're trying to move

7311
04:15:52,504 --> 04:15:53,710
efficiently.

7312
04:15:53,710 --> 04:15:54,172
Councilmember perry?

7313
04:15:54,172 --> 04:15:54,573
>> Perry: thank you,

7314
04:15:54,573 --> 04:15:56,573
sir.

7315
04:15:56,575 --> 04:15:58,377
One of the things that

7316
04:15:58,377 --> 04:16:00,777
we've touched on real

7317
04:16:01,313 --> 04:16:02,814
lightly was the --

7318
04:16:02,814 --> 04:16:04,183
that -- the study, the

7319
04:16:04,183 --> 04:16:05,851
scientific study that was

7320
04:16:05,851 --> 04:16:06,752
performed here about

7321
04:16:06,752 --> 04:16:08,386
police services and what

7322
04:16:08,386 --> 04:16:09,754
have you, and the

7323
04:16:09,754 --> 04:16:11,423
community as a whole, the

7324
04:16:11,423 --> 04:16:12,691
percentage of people that

7325
04:16:12,691 --> 04:16:13,792
were happy, the

7326
04:16:13,792 --> 04:16:15,460
percentage of people that

7327
04:16:15,460 --> 04:16:17,860
wanted more visibility of

7328
04:16:17,963 --> 04:16:19,865
police, and I'm -- I'm

7329
04:16:19,865 --> 04:16:20,732
agreeing with that

7330
04:16:20,732 --> 04:16:22,000
report, and the constant

7331
04:16:22,000 --> 04:16:25,360
thing that I get from my

7332
04:16:25,360 --> 04:16:26,271
district is we need more

7333
04:16:26,271 --> 04:16:27,505
policemen on the streets,

7334
04:16:27,505 --> 04:16:30,776
so I would like to see

7335
04:16:30,776 --> 04:16:31,243
some additional

7336
04:16:31,243 --> 04:16:32,177
authorizations in the

7337
04:16:32,177 --> 04:16:33,411
police department to make

7338
04:16:33,411 --> 04:16:35,411
that happen, whether

7339
04:16:35,814 --> 04:16:37,448
that's through the safe

7340
04:16:37,448 --> 04:16:38,583
programs or patrolmen on

7341
04:16:38,583 --> 04:16:39,484
the street, so I would

7342
04:16:39,484 --> 04:16:41,253
like to put that out

7343
04:16:41,253 --> 04:16:42,954
there, erik, let's get

7344
04:16:42,954 --> 04:16:44,590
some more authorizations

7345
04:16:44,590 --> 04:16:46,590
to renegligent what

7346
04:16:46,758 --> 04:16:48,727
reflect what that

7347
04:16:48,727 --> 04:16:49,595
study was and what people

7348
04:16:49,595 --> 04:16:49,795
responded toward on that

7349
04:16:49,795 --> 04:16:50,561
study.

7350
04:16:50,561 --> 04:16:51,960
Thank you, sir.

7351
04:16:51,960 --> 04:16:53,310
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7352
04:16:53,310 --> 04:16:54,400
thank you, councilmember

7353
04:16:54,400 --> 04:16:54,666
perry, councilmember

7354
04:16:54,666 --> 04:16:55,167
viagran?

7355
04:16:55,167 --> 04:16:57,167
>> Viagran: thank you.

7356
04:16:57,903 --> 04:16:58,336
I just want to agree with

7357
04:16:58,336 --> 04:16:59,338
COUNCILMAN Mckee

7358
04:16:59,338 --> 04:17:00,720
rodriguez on the

7359
04:17:00,720 --> 04:17:01,840
lighting, and the heat

7360
04:17:01,840 --> 04:17:02,975
map, and if we could talk

7361
04:17:02,975 --> 04:17:04,676
a little more about that

7362
04:17:04,676 --> 04:17:05,343
on street maintenance and

7363
04:17:05,343 --> 04:17:06,344
infrastructure, that

7364
04:17:06,344 --> 04:17:07,879
would be great.

7365
04:17:07,879 --> 04:17:09,314
The one thing I'm going

7366
04:17:09,314 --> 04:17:11,183
to task my staff to do,

7367
04:17:11,183 --> 04:17:12,351
but if you have the

7368
04:17:12,351 --> 04:17:13,752
information, about how

7369
04:17:13,752 --> 04:17:14,486
many uniforms do we

7370
04:17:14,486 --> 04:17:16,655
actually have in the

7371
04:17:16,655 --> 04:17:17,523
different areas and

7372
04:17:17,523 --> 04:17:19,525
districts, because I know

7373
04:17:19,525 --> 04:17:21,920
for me, I have rural

7374
04:17:21,920 --> 04:17:21,893
areas, so there are the

7375
04:17:21,893 --> 04:17:23,893
bexar county sheriff

7376
04:17:23,962 --> 04:17:24,430
deputies, there's

7377
04:17:24,430 --> 04:17:25,664
constables, school

7378
04:17:25,664 --> 04:17:26,532
districts, and I have a

7379
04:17:26,532 --> 04:17:27,599
university, so I think

7380
04:17:27,599 --> 04:17:29,501
when we talk about

7381
04:17:29,501 --> 04:17:31,200
policing and sapd and who

7382
04:17:31,200 --> 04:17:32,203
they're seeing kind of

7383
04:17:32,203 --> 04:17:34,406
understanding who is out

7384
04:17:34,406 --> 04:17:35,941
there, in the different

7385
04:17:35,941 --> 04:17:36,775
areas, umm, that's why I

7386
04:17:36,775 --> 04:17:37,743
think maybe counties

7387
04:17:37,743 --> 04:17:38,476
should take over the

7388
04:17:38,476 --> 04:17:40,345
fireworks, because they

7389
04:17:40,345 --> 04:17:41,213
do sell them, so maybe we

7390
04:17:41,213 --> 04:17:43,213
could get county

7391
04:17:43,849 --> 04:17:44,382
officials to do that?

7392
04:17:44,382 --> 04:17:45,483
[Laughter]

7393
04:17:45,483 --> 04:17:48,153
And I think when we talk

7394
04:17:48,153 --> 04:17:50,553
about marketing, how our

7395
04:17:50,956 --> 04:17:51,957
sapd members are doing

7396
04:17:51,957 --> 04:17:53,957
volunteer work.

7397
04:17:54,994 --> 04:17:57,663
I would task sapoa to do

7398
04:17:57,663 --> 04:17:58,970
that, because they keep a

7399
04:17:58,970 --> 04:17:58,564
great record of the

7400
04:17:58,564 --> 04:18:00,366
outreach that they do,

7401
04:18:00,366 --> 04:18:00,833
and I know they've done

7402
04:18:00,833 --> 04:18:02,768
different catholic

7403
04:18:02,768 --> 04:18:03,535
schools in my area.

7404
04:18:03,535 --> 04:18:04,836
I want to talk about

7405
04:18:04,836 --> 04:18:06,500
that.

7406
04:18:06,500 --> 04:18:07,380
And then when we talk

7407
04:18:07,380 --> 04:18:08,239
about the community

7408
04:18:08,239 --> 04:18:10,239
health and equity

7409
04:18:11,900 --> 04:18:13,900
recommendations, I think

7410
04:18:13,379 --> 04:18:15,247
if we took our own ndo

7411
04:18:15,247 --> 04:18:16,648
and implemented it fully

7412
04:18:16,648 --> 04:18:17,549
within the police

7413
04:18:17,549 --> 04:18:19,549
department, we could

7414
04:18:20,152 --> 04:18:21,253
address a lot of those

7415
04:18:21,253 --> 04:18:22,721
issues, so I would like

7416
04:18:22,721 --> 04:18:24,323
to see us look at that.

7417
04:18:24,323 --> 04:18:25,691
And the other thing is,

7418
04:18:25,691 --> 04:18:27,159
our spanish speakers,

7419
04:18:27,159 --> 04:18:29,428
because I know officers

7420
04:18:29,428 --> 04:18:30,829
get a stipend because

7421
04:18:30,829 --> 04:18:31,697
they're spanish speakers,

7422
04:18:31,697 --> 04:18:33,532
maybe we can also get

7423
04:18:33,532 --> 04:18:34,666
them trained more

7424
04:18:34,666 --> 04:18:36,666
specifically with the

7425
04:18:37,836 --> 04:18:40,405
violence -- I call it

7426
04:18:40,405 --> 04:18:41,641
safe vic, and the mental

7427
04:18:41,641 --> 04:18:42,908
health, if we could get

7428
04:18:42,908 --> 04:18:43,709
them trained in that

7429
04:18:43,709 --> 04:18:44,410
also, I think that would

7430
04:18:44,410 --> 04:18:46,278
be helpful.

7431
04:18:46,278 --> 04:18:47,679
>> chief: councilmember,

7432
04:18:47,679 --> 04:18:49,382
every officer is required

7433
04:18:49,382 --> 04:18:52,840
to do the 40 hour memphis

7434
04:18:52,840 --> 04:18:53,952
block of training, so

7435
04:18:53,952 --> 04:18:55,788
used to be back in 2007,

7436
04:18:55,788 --> 04:18:56,155
I guess it was, it was

7437
04:18:56,155 --> 04:18:57,823
voluntary.

7438
04:18:57,823 --> 04:19:00,823
I think I made it

7439
04:19:01,560 --> 04:19:02,828
mandatory in 2008.

7440
04:19:02,828 --> 04:19:03,862
And to get out of the

7441
04:19:03,862 --> 04:19:04,797
academy, and also to

7442
04:19:04,797 --> 04:19:07,266
get -- well, before it

7443
04:19:07,266 --> 04:19:08,234
was an academy training,

7444
04:19:08,234 --> 04:19:09,134
you had to take that

7445
04:19:09,134 --> 04:19:10,369
block of training in

7446
04:19:10,369 --> 04:19:11,404
order to be issued a

7447
04:19:11,404 --> 04:19:12,971
taser, and then it became

7448
04:19:12,971 --> 04:19:14,173
a block of training that

7449
04:19:14,173 --> 04:19:16,342
you had to take before

7450
04:19:16,342 --> 04:19:16,875
you graduated from the

7451
04:19:16,875 --> 04:19:18,875
academy.

7452
04:19:19,178 --> 04:19:21,578
And everybody is involved

7453
04:19:23,216 --> 04:19:24,316
in the cit -- cit.

7454
04:19:24,316 --> 04:19:26,716
>> Viagran: I want to

7455
04:19:26,718 --> 04:19:29,880
make sure -- maybe -- I

7456
04:19:29,880 --> 04:19:29,822
don't know if we can

7457
04:19:29,822 --> 04:19:31,890
incentivize it for them

7458
04:19:31,890 --> 04:19:32,558
to take an upgrade or

7459
04:19:32,558 --> 04:19:34,558
more relevant training

7460
04:19:35,862 --> 04:19:37,463
for what they might see

7461
04:19:37,463 --> 04:19:38,664
as they -- as they face

7462
04:19:38,664 --> 04:19:39,999
other things with people

7463
04:19:39,999 --> 04:19:40,966
having other sort of

7464
04:19:40,966 --> 04:19:42,301
addictions, and I think

7465
04:19:42,301 --> 04:19:43,736
we'll see another round

7466
04:19:43,736 --> 04:19:45,505
of how people are dealing

7467
04:19:45,505 --> 04:19:46,539
with the covid and coming

7468
04:19:46,539 --> 04:19:48,700
out of covid where we

7469
04:19:48,700 --> 04:19:48,641
might have to look for

7470
04:19:48,641 --> 04:19:49,742
specialized training for

7471
04:19:49,742 --> 04:19:51,176
that also.

7472
04:19:51,176 --> 04:19:52,440
So that's all my

7473
04:19:52,440 --> 04:19:52,477
comments, thank you.

7474
04:19:52,477 --> 04:19:54,447
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7475
04:19:54,447 --> 04:19:55,810
thank you, councilmember

7476
04:19:55,810 --> 04:19:56,115
viagran, councilmember

7477
04:19:56,115 --> 04:19:56,682
bravo?

7478
04:19:56,682 --> 04:19:57,984
>> Bravo: thank you.

7479
04:19:57,984 --> 04:19:58,851
I know the mayor is

7480
04:19:58,851 --> 04:19:59,952
trying to move this

7481
04:19:59,952 --> 04:20:01,654
meeting along, so I'll

7482
04:20:01,654 --> 04:20:03,889
make some comments and

7483
04:20:03,889 --> 04:20:06,526
I'm happy to take the

7484
04:20:06,526 --> 04:20:07,827
responses offline later.

7485
04:20:07,827 --> 04:20:09,280
But around five years ago

7486
04:20:09,280 --> 04:20:10,960
a neighbor of mine told

7487
04:20:10,960 --> 04:20:11,230
me he was going to be out

7488
04:20:11,230 --> 04:20:13,198
of town, can you keep an

7489
04:20:13,198 --> 04:20:14,333
eye on my house, I said

7490
04:20:14,333 --> 04:20:16,200
sure, I was walking my

7491
04:20:16,200 --> 04:20:17,503
dog at 10:00 at night,

7492
04:20:17,503 --> 04:20:19,572
his front door was open

7493
04:20:19,572 --> 04:20:20,539
and lights were on at

7494
04:20:20,539 --> 04:20:20,973
10:00 at night over the

7495
04:20:20,973 --> 04:20:22,973
weekend.

7496
04:20:23,242 --> 04:20:24,177
I called 911, and it took

7497
04:20:24,177 --> 04:20:26,577
forever to get a

7498
04:20:26,712 --> 04:20:28,140
response.

7499
04:20:28,140 --> 04:20:28,981
And so I want to make

7500
04:20:28,981 --> 04:20:30,282
sure that when somebody

7501
04:20:30,282 --> 04:20:31,317
does need a police

7502
04:20:31,317 --> 04:20:32,251
officer, that they can

7503
04:20:32,251 --> 04:20:34,251
get them quickly.

7504
04:20:34,987 --> 04:20:36,422
So I want to reduce 911

7505
04:20:36,422 --> 04:20:37,623
response times.

7506
04:20:37,623 --> 04:20:38,924
And I guess one of my

7507
04:20:38,924 --> 04:20:40,590
questions that I can

7508
04:20:40,590 --> 04:20:42,590
takeoff

7509
04:20:42,795 --> 04:20:43,763
takeoffline, my understanding

7510
04:20:43,763 --> 04:20:45,598
there's a subset of

7511
04:20:45,598 --> 04:20:46,799
people who call

7512
04:20:46,799 --> 04:20:48,534
frequently, and maybe

7513
04:20:48,534 --> 04:20:51,700
slow down services or tie

7514
04:20:51,700 --> 04:20:51,604
up services, and I'm

7515
04:20:51,604 --> 04:20:53,372
wondering if there could

7516
04:20:53,372 --> 04:20:54,730
be investments in mental

7517
04:20:54,730 --> 04:20:55,674
health services or

7518
04:20:55,674 --> 04:20:56,609
something to that effect,

7519
04:20:56,609 --> 04:20:57,444
addressing -- helping

7520
04:20:57,444 --> 04:20:59,110
support some of these

7521
04:20:59,110 --> 04:21:01,280
people in ways such that

7522
04:21:01,280 --> 04:21:01,580
they're not tying up 911

7523
04:21:01,580 --> 04:21:03,183
resources?

7524
04:21:03,183 --> 04:21:03,849
So I would be very

7525
04:21:03,849 --> 04:21:04,850
interested in if there

7526
04:21:04,850 --> 04:21:06,152
are opportunities to make

7527
04:21:06,152 --> 04:21:07,687
improvements there that

7528
04:21:07,687 --> 04:21:09,687
we're investmenting

7529
04:21:10,556 --> 04:21:10,890
investing in those

7530
04:21:10,890 --> 04:21:11,724
opportunities.

7531
04:21:11,724 --> 04:21:12,725
And in addition to that,

7532
04:21:12,725 --> 04:21:15,561
I just wanted to note

7533
04:21:15,561 --> 04:21:16,829
some general support for

7534
04:21:16,829 --> 04:21:17,797
COUNCILMAN Mckee

7535
04:21:17,797 --> 04:21:19,198
rodriguez's approach that

7536
04:21:19,198 --> 04:21:21,598
I'm going to paraphrase

7537
04:21:21,701 --> 04:21:22,835
as being just a more

7538
04:21:22,835 --> 04:21:23,469
comprehensive and

7539
04:21:23,469 --> 04:21:24,103
holistic approach to

7540
04:21:24,103 --> 04:21:25,104
public safety.

7541
04:21:25,104 --> 04:21:25,771
Thank you.

7542
04:21:25,771 --> 04:21:27,507
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7543
04:21:27,507 --> 04:21:28,240
thank you, councilmember

7544
04:21:28,240 --> 04:21:28,574
bravo.

7545
04:21:28,574 --> 04:21:30,276
Councilmember.

7546
04:21:30,276 --> 04:21:31,711
>> Rocha-Garcia:?

7547
04:21:31,711 --> 04:21:33,213
>>

7548
04:21:33,213 --> 04:21:35,213
>> Rocha-Garcia:.

7549
04:21:35,749 --> 04:21:38,451
Thank you, this is my

7550
04:21:38,451 --> 04:21:40,851
second go round, I'll

7551
04:21:40,853 --> 04:21:43,223
start out by saying I do

7552
04:21:43,223 --> 04:21:45,223
agree with mckee

7553
04:21:45,791 --> 04:21:46,525
rodriguez's point, so

7554
04:21:46,525 --> 04:21:48,610
thank you for that, and

7555
04:21:48,610 --> 04:21:50,163
then the lighting study,

7556
04:21:50,163 --> 04:21:51,264
but, chief, I think what

7557
04:21:51,264 --> 04:21:52,965
we hear here is a

7558
04:21:52,965 --> 04:21:53,666
discussion about the need

7559
04:21:53,666 --> 04:21:54,401
for additional community

7560
04:21:54,401 --> 04:21:56,169
programs, and that was

7561
04:21:56,169 --> 04:21:58,471
going to be my -- my

7562
04:21:58,471 --> 04:22:00,239
question was going to be

7563
04:22:00,239 --> 04:22:01,374
specifically with the

7564
04:22:01,374 --> 04:22:03,176
cops program, national

7565
04:22:03,176 --> 04:22:04,770
night out, so continue to

7566
04:22:04,770 --> 04:22:05,144
fund that especially as

7567
04:22:05,144 --> 04:22:05,945
we come out of the

7568
04:22:05,945 --> 04:22:06,679
pandemic, that's

7569
04:22:06,679 --> 04:22:07,130
important to my

7570
04:22:07,130 --> 04:22:08,648
residents.

7571
04:22:08,648 --> 04:22:10,648
I know that.

7572
04:22:11,384 --> 04:22:14,120
I do want to go on record

7573
04:22:14,120 --> 04:22:15,488
by saying that our safe

7574
04:22:15,488 --> 04:22:17,900
officers are awesome.

7575
04:22:17,900 --> 04:22:18,391
I mean, they were in

7576
04:22:18,391 --> 04:22:18,858
senior high school

7577
04:22:18,858 --> 04:22:20,359
parades this year.

7578
04:22:20,359 --> 04:22:22,361
I mean, they're out there

7579
04:22:22,361 --> 04:22:24,761
trying to do stuff.

7580
04:22:27,633 --> 04:22:28,701
We know that sapoa has

7581
04:22:28,701 --> 04:22:30,503
the blue gives back,

7582
04:22:30,503 --> 04:22:32,873
they're out there, it

7583
04:22:32,873 --> 04:22:34,641
might not be identified,

7584
04:22:34,641 --> 04:22:35,842
but it MAY be a branding

7585
04:22:35,842 --> 04:22:38,242
problem, maybe they need

7586
04:22:38,345 --> 04:22:39,612
to continue wearing sapd

7587
04:22:39,612 --> 04:22:40,647
shirts when they're off,

7588
04:22:40,647 --> 04:22:42,949
but I do think that some

7589
04:22:42,949 --> 04:22:44,250
of them also want that to

7590
04:22:44,250 --> 04:22:45,251
stay anonymous when

7591
04:22:45,251 --> 04:22:46,219
they're in their lives as

7592
04:22:46,219 --> 04:22:47,220
well, they don't want to

7593
04:22:47,220 --> 04:22:48,870
kind of identify then

7594
04:22:48,870 --> 04:22:49,555
selves, so I think

7595
04:22:49,555 --> 04:22:50,723
there's a steady balance.

7596
04:22:50,723 --> 04:22:53,593
I know they do a lot.

7597
04:22:53,593 --> 04:22:54,561
I know that in their off

7598
04:22:54,561 --> 04:22:55,629
time, they continue

7599
04:22:55,629 --> 04:22:56,830
focusing on these things.

7600
04:22:56,830 --> 04:22:58,498
There's a program over at

7601
04:22:58,498 --> 04:23:00,898
southwest isd, and that's

7602
04:23:01,000 --> 04:23:03,300
the -- the main reason

7603
04:23:03,300 --> 04:23:06,603
that I want to chime back

7604
04:23:07,174 --> 04:23:09,574
in, the promise program,

7605
04:23:10,100 --> 04:23:10,476
southwest isd paired up

7606
04:23:10,476 --> 04:23:11,744
their police officers

7607
04:23:11,744 --> 04:23:12,812
with kids.

7608
04:23:12,812 --> 04:23:14,181
[Lapse in audio]

7609
04:23:14,181 --> 04:23:15,682
And so they gave them

7610
04:23:15,682 --> 04:23:18,820
this program, it's a

7611
04:23:18,652 --> 04:23:19,453
six-week program, awesome

7612
04:23:19,453 --> 04:23:20,620
training, but I think

7613
04:23:20,620 --> 04:23:22,289
that the main part of it

7614
04:23:22,289 --> 04:23:23,156
that I learned from that

7615
04:23:23,156 --> 04:23:24,758
program is that they made

7616
04:23:24,758 --> 04:23:25,859
a connection, and so they

7617
04:23:25,859 --> 04:23:26,893
were very specific in who

7618
04:23:26,893 --> 04:23:29,262
they teamed up to be

7619
04:23:29,262 --> 04:23:30,830
their mentor.

7620
04:23:30,830 --> 04:23:32,399
So someone that was just

7621
04:23:32,399 --> 04:23:33,233
like that child, or had a

7622
04:23:33,233 --> 04:23:34,567
similar experience, and I

7623
04:23:34,567 --> 04:23:35,635
think that makes a world

7624
04:23:35,635 --> 04:23:36,636
of a difference, so I

7625
04:23:36,636 --> 04:23:37,604
don't know if there's

7626
04:23:37,604 --> 04:23:38,839
anything in your area

7627
04:23:38,839 --> 04:23:39,706
that y'all are exploring,

7628
04:23:39,706 --> 04:23:41,674
but specifically, in

7629
04:23:41,674 --> 04:23:44,740
regard to mentorship, we

7630
04:23:45,845 --> 04:23:46,947
know that gen z is a

7631
04:23:46,947 --> 04:23:48,148
general thaition that

7632
04:23:48,148 --> 04:23:48,815
wants and accepting

7633
04:23:48,815 --> 04:23:49,549
mentoring, so anything

7634
04:23:49,549 --> 04:23:50,450
that you can tell me

7635
04:23:50,450 --> 04:23:52,118
about that?

7636
04:23:52,118 --> 04:23:52,686
Any mentoring

7637
04:23:52,686 --> 04:23:54,686
opportunities, programs

7638
04:23:54,688 --> 04:23:57,880
that you might see?

7639
04:23:58,258 --> 04:24:00,394
>> chief: we don't have

7640
04:24:00,394 --> 04:24:01,270
any specific mentoring

7641
04:24:01,270 --> 04:24:03,427
programs right now, at

7642
04:24:06,766 --> 04:24:08,802
least that I'm aware of,

7643
04:24:08,802 --> 04:24:10,971
and I think -- let me

7644
04:24:10,971 --> 04:24:12,572
walk that back.

7645
04:24:12,572 --> 04:24:13,940
I have to check on it,

7646
04:24:13,940 --> 04:24:15,109
I'll get back to you, I

7647
04:24:15,109 --> 04:24:17,577
think there actually is a

7648
04:24:17,577 --> 04:24:19,112
mentoring program for

7649
04:24:19,112 --> 04:24:21,112
young women, students.

7650
04:24:21,181 --> 04:24:22,182
I think that actually

7651
04:24:22,182 --> 04:24:23,160
exists, but I have to --

7652
04:24:23,160 --> 04:24:24,510
I can't remember if I was

7653
04:24:24,510 --> 04:24:25,319
just having a

7654
04:24:25,319 --> 04:24:26,820
conversation about it, or

7655
04:24:26,820 --> 04:24:28,221
if I -- if it actually

7656
04:24:28,221 --> 04:24:30,290
does exist, so I'll let

7657
04:24:30,290 --> 04:24:32,690
you know about that.

7658
04:24:33,860 --> 04:24:35,950
>> okay, thank you,

7659
04:24:35,950 --> 04:24:36,696
chief, at the substakes,

7660
04:24:36,696 --> 04:24:38,398
they do a great job with

7661
04:24:38,398 --> 04:24:39,266
our youth initiatives as

7662
04:24:39,266 --> 04:24:40,534
well, I would love to

7663
04:24:40,534 --> 04:24:41,335
learn more about

7664
04:24:41,335 --> 04:24:42,803
mentoring specifically.

7665
04:24:42,803 --> 04:24:43,904
Thank you, councilmember.

7666
04:24:43,904 --> 04:24:44,538
>> Rocha-Garcia:,

7667
04:24:44,538 --> 04:24:45,805
councilmember pala

7668
04:24:45,805 --> 04:24:47,174
ez?

7669
04:24:47,174 --> 04:24:48,442
>> Pal*ez: thank you.

7670
04:24:48,442 --> 04:24:49,876
Erik so far you've heard

7671
04:24:49,876 --> 04:24:51,876
I think three

7672
04:24:55,615 --> 04:24:55,950
councilmembers, viagran,

7673
04:24:55,950 --> 04:24:56,416
COUNCILWOMAN.

7674
04:24:56,416 --> 04:24:57,985
>> Rocha-Garcia: talk

7675
04:24:57,985 --> 04:25:00,120
about lighting as part of

7676
04:25:00,120 --> 04:25:01,789
the solution for crime,

7677
04:25:01,789 --> 04:25:03,424
ryan dillard is playing

7678
04:25:03,424 --> 04:25:04,624
very close attention I

7679
04:25:04,624 --> 04:25:05,692
think it MAY be time for

7680
04:25:05,692 --> 04:25:07,928
us to dust off the

7681
04:25:07,928 --> 04:25:09,960
lighting plan that was

7682
04:25:09,960 --> 04:25:10,397
COUNCILMAN Trevino helped

7683
04:25:10,397 --> 04:25:12,797
to two-point as part

7684
04:25:12,800 --> 04:25:13,467
develop as part of

7685
04:25:13,467 --> 04:25:15,467
this conversation.

7686
04:25:15,469 --> 04:25:17,604
I think you're going to

7687
04:25:17,604 --> 04:25:18,572
be amazed, impressed with

7688
04:25:18,572 --> 04:25:19,606
what the department came

7689
04:25:19,606 --> 04:25:21,141
up with, in response to

7690
04:25:21,141 --> 04:25:24,141
what you think is needed,

7691
04:25:24,411 --> 04:25:25,512
because what you think is

7692
04:25:25,512 --> 04:25:26,847
needed, smart lighting

7693
04:25:26,847 --> 04:25:28,480
program, if somebody dust

7694
04:25:28,480 --> 04:25:29,883
that off or maybe present

7695
04:25:29,883 --> 04:25:31,218
it at a future meeting or

7696
04:25:31,218 --> 04:25:32,686
brief our councilmembers

7697
04:25:32,686 --> 04:25:32,986
so that you guys can get

7698
04:25:32,986 --> 04:25:34,986
behind this.

7699
04:25:35,489 --> 04:25:36,891
I think it's one of the

7700
04:25:36,891 --> 04:25:38,558
most important crime

7701
04:25:38,558 --> 04:25:39,860
prevention and quality of

7702
04:25:39,860 --> 04:25:41,528
life programs that we'll

7703
04:25:41,528 --> 04:25:43,528
have created.

7704
04:25:43,997 --> 04:25:44,898
>> that's a great point,

7705
04:25:44,898 --> 04:25:46,898
COUNCILMAN, because there

7706
04:25:47,100 --> 04:25:48,569
was an effort and it

7707
04:25:48,569 --> 04:25:50,204
wasn't a citywide effort,

7708
04:25:50,204 --> 04:25:52,873
but it was a -- it was an

7709
04:25:52,873 --> 04:25:53,941
effort that was targeted

7710
04:25:53,941 --> 04:25:56,341
a couple of neighborhoods

7711
04:25:56,810 --> 04:25:57,444
that was informative,

7712
04:25:57,444 --> 04:25:59,444
plus what you're

7713
04:25:59,514 --> 04:26:00,548
referring to with the

7714
04:26:00,548 --> 04:26:02,283
smart street lights and

7715
04:26:02,283 --> 04:26:05,883
the work that we did with

7716
04:26:06,286 --> 04:26:07,288
smart cities led through

7717
04:26:07,288 --> 04:26:09,190
brian dillard's office,

7718
04:26:09,190 --> 04:26:10,257
so I think we need to

7719
04:26:10,257 --> 04:26:11,459
probably better inform

7720
04:26:11,459 --> 04:26:12,760
ourselves, because it's

7721
04:26:12,760 --> 04:26:15,562
been a couple of years,

7722
04:26:15,562 --> 04:26:16,930
and then figure out how

7723
04:26:16,930 --> 04:26:17,798
that fits into -- a

7724
04:26:17,798 --> 04:26:19,233
number of councilmembers

7725
04:26:19,233 --> 04:26:19,800
have brought up street

7726
04:26:19,800 --> 04:26:20,701
lighting.

7727
04:26:20,701 --> 04:26:21,201
I'll share with the

7728
04:26:21,201 --> 04:26:23,237
council, one of the

7729
04:26:23,237 --> 04:26:24,438
things that I heard in

7730
04:26:24,438 --> 04:26:26,438
the 27 community meetings

7731
04:26:27,875 --> 04:26:30,244
was not just we want a

7732
04:26:30,244 --> 04:26:32,113
new pole, it's that we

7733
04:26:32,113 --> 04:26:33,470
want the street lights

7734
04:26:33,470 --> 04:26:33,881
that are out replaced,

7735
04:26:33,881 --> 04:26:35,216
and so.

7736
04:26:35,216 --> 04:26:37,216
[Lapse in audio]

7737
04:26:38,375 --> 04:26:39,530
Issue, when that happens,

7738
04:26:39,530 --> 04:26:41,811
an individual call 3-1-1,

7739
04:26:41,811 --> 04:26:43,964
this is actually very

7740
04:26:43,964 --> 04:26:44,850
similar to our

7741
04:26:44,850 --> 04:26:45,226
conversation yesterday

7742
04:26:45,226 --> 04:26:46,727
with cps and saws, you

7743
04:26:46,727 --> 04:26:47,895
can call 3-1-1, you

7744
04:26:47,895 --> 04:26:50,164
report your street light,

7745
04:26:50,164 --> 04:26:52,466
that service level --

7746
04:26:52,466 --> 04:26:53,601
that service request goes

7747
04:26:53,601 --> 04:26:54,869
to cps to replace, and

7748
04:26:54,869 --> 04:26:57,437
what I heard in a number

7749
04:26:57,437 --> 04:26:59,600
of those meetings was,

7750
04:26:59,600 --> 04:27:00,274
you know, it's two, three

7751
04:27:00,274 --> 04:27:02,900
months later, so we're

7752
04:27:02,900 --> 04:27:03,744
going to be working with

7753
04:27:03,744 --> 04:27:04,679
cps to figure out what is

7754
04:27:04,679 --> 04:27:06,140
the service level

7755
04:27:06,140 --> 04:27:07,715
agreement when somebody

7756
04:27:07,715 --> 04:27:09,150
calls a light that's out,

7757
04:27:09,150 --> 04:27:10,785
they're calling the city,

7758
04:27:10,785 --> 04:27:11,853
they don't really care

7759
04:27:11,853 --> 04:27:14,253
whose bucket truck goes

7760
04:27:14,522 --> 04:27:15,890
out there, but there's an

7761
04:27:15,890 --> 04:27:16,624
expectation, we're going

7762
04:27:16,624 --> 04:27:18,659
to be working on that

7763
04:27:18,659 --> 04:27:20,659
angle as well.

7764
04:27:20,728 --> 04:27:22,728
>> Pal*ez: COUNCILWOMAN

7765
04:27:24,432 --> 04:27:24,999
Rocha, you mentioned

7766
04:27:24,999 --> 04:27:26,734
criminologists, they've

7767
04:27:26,734 --> 04:27:29,300
been knocking our door

7768
04:27:29,300 --> 04:27:30,237
down, we got to meet with

7769
04:27:30,237 --> 04:27:31,706
the criminologists, I

7770
04:27:31,706 --> 04:27:32,907
think we're working with

7771
04:27:32,907 --> 04:27:34,800
them, so those

7772
04:27:34,800 --> 04:27:36,800
relationships exist.

7773
04:27:39,279 --> 04:27:40,381
>> yes, utsa, the

7774
04:27:40,381 --> 04:27:41,749
criminologist, DR. Smith,

7775
04:27:41,749 --> 04:27:43,251
they did the analysis of

7776
04:27:43,251 --> 04:27:45,620
the 911 calls as part of

7777
04:27:45,620 --> 04:27:46,721
this study.

7778
04:27:46,721 --> 04:27:48,560
>> and the research

7779
04:27:48,560 --> 04:27:48,823
department at utsa, we're

7780
04:27:48,823 --> 04:27:50,992
going to be bringing

7781
04:27:50,992 --> 04:27:53,194
forward to council in

7782
04:27:53,194 --> 04:27:55,594
AUGUST, a proposed master

7783
04:27:57,632 --> 04:27:58,432
ila with utsa, the broad

7784
04:27:58,432 --> 04:27:59,867
utsa again spearheaded

7785
04:27:59,867 --> 04:28:01,235
through the work of

7786
04:28:01,235 --> 04:28:02,203
innovation and brian

7787
04:28:02,203 --> 04:28:02,937
dillard, so that the

7788
04:28:02,937 --> 04:28:04,937
police department can

7789
04:28:08,209 --> 04:28:09,410
rely on experts rozzy,

7790
04:28:09,410 --> 04:28:10,770
its will be open to any

7791
04:28:10,770 --> 04:28:11,746
city department to

7792
04:28:11,746 --> 04:28:13,746
connect to whatever

7793
04:28:14,480 --> 04:28:17,480
expert we need at utsa.

7794
04:28:18,987 --> 04:28:20,987
>> chief: councilmember

7795
04:28:21,255 --> 04:28:22,256
rocha garcia, we are in

7796
04:28:22,256 --> 04:28:23,591
discussions with region

7797
04:28:23,591 --> 04:28:24,459
20 right now for a

7798
04:28:24,459 --> 04:28:25,930
citywide mentorship

7799
04:28:25,930 --> 04:28:27,930
program, so that's

7800
04:28:27,395 --> 04:28:27,829
happening.

7801
04:28:27,829 --> 04:28:29,530
>> Mayor Nirenberg:

7802
04:28:29,530 --> 04:28:29,697
thank you, councilmember

7803
04:28:29,697 --> 04:28:30,198
pala

7804
04:28:30,198 --> 04:28:31,732
ez.

7805
04:28:31,732 --> 04:28:32,434
Councilmember courage?

7806
04:28:32,434 --> 04:28:34,434
>> Courage: thank you,

7807
04:28:36,270 --> 04:28:38,139
mayor.

7808
04:28:38,139 --> 04:28:39,507
Chief, what is the --

7809
04:28:39,507 --> 04:28:41,309
what are the number of

7810
04:28:41,309 --> 04:28:42,760
officers that get

7811
04:28:42,760 --> 04:28:44,476
dispatched -- if there's

7812
04:28:44,845 --> 04:28:46,414
a call for potential

7813
04:28:46,414 --> 04:28:48,249
domestic violence or

7814
04:28:48,249 --> 04:28:49,651
somebody in mental health

7815
04:28:49,651 --> 04:28:50,985
crisis or somebody

7816
04:28:50,985 --> 04:28:52,985
complains there's a

7817
04:28:53,210 --> 04:28:53,287
burglar around their

7818
04:28:53,287 --> 04:28:54,121
property?

7819
04:28:54,121 --> 04:28:54,823
How many officers are

7820
04:28:54,823 --> 04:28:56,291
usually dispatched to

7821
04:28:56,291 --> 04:28:57,525
those kinds of calls.

7822
04:28:57,525 --> 04:28:58,793
>> chief: it depends on

7823
04:28:58,793 --> 04:28:59,594
the nature of the call.

7824
04:28:59,594 --> 04:29:00,461
Domestic violence,

7825
04:29:00,461 --> 04:29:01,429
there's always two to

7826
04:29:01,429 --> 04:29:03,429
start with.

7827
04:29:05,733 --> 04:29:07,702
Burglary, there's

7828
04:29:07,702 --> 04:29:09,771
burglary, there's typically a

7829
04:29:09,771 --> 04:29:10,638
call for a burglar, there's

7830
04:29:10,638 --> 04:29:12,638
typically two.

7831
04:29:14,175 --> 04:29:16,110
It depends on the call, how

7832
04:29:16,110 --> 04:29:18,146
dangerous it might be, MAY start

7833
04:29:18,146 --> 04:29:19,130
out with two and MAY wind up

7834
04:29:19,130 --> 04:29:21,130
with ten.

7835
04:29:21,583 --> 04:29:21,816
It's just the nature of what

7836
04:29:21,816 --> 04:29:22,850
happens.

7837
04:29:22,850 --> 04:29:24,352
>> Courage: we've talked a lot

7838
04:29:24,352 --> 04:29:26,320
about trying to get

7839
04:29:26,320 --> 04:29:29,320
professionals to address some of

7840
04:29:31,793 --> 04:29:32,427
these kinds of issues,

7841
04:29:32,427 --> 04:29:33,795
especially homeless and mental

7842
04:29:33,795 --> 04:29:36,195
health and domestic violence.

7843
04:29:36,731 --> 04:29:38,232
In your professional opinion, if

7844
04:29:38,232 --> 04:29:39,868
it was a professional going,

7845
04:29:39,868 --> 04:29:42,571
would you feel comfortable with

7846
04:29:42,571 --> 04:29:44,305
a single police officer?

7847
04:29:44,305 --> 04:29:44,606
>> again, depends on the nature

7848
04:29:44,606 --> 04:29:46,606
of the call.

7849
04:29:48,577 --> 04:29:49,811
Probably not.

7850
04:29:49,811 --> 04:29:51,846
Again, depending on the nature

7851
04:29:51,846 --> 04:29:53,480
of the call.

7852
04:29:53,480 --> 04:29:55,160
>> Courage: what I'm trying to

7853
04:29:55,160 --> 04:29:55,650
get to, are we really going to

7854
04:29:55,650 --> 04:29:58,650
help put more police officers

7855
04:29:58,987 --> 04:30:02,900
out doing patrol by adding a

7856
04:30:02,900 --> 04:30:04,860
professional to go with the

7857
04:30:04,860 --> 04:30:06,860
police officer there.

7858
04:30:07,295 --> 04:30:08,530
And it's my personal belief that

7859
04:30:08,530 --> 04:30:11,933
any police officer going to a

7860
04:30:11,933 --> 04:30:13,435
mental health call, or domestic

7861
04:30:13,435 --> 04:30:15,670
violence, or, you know,

7862
04:30:15,670 --> 04:30:18,573
something along those lines, or

7863
04:30:18,573 --> 04:30:21,573
homeless, you know, I'd rather

7864
04:30:22,344 --> 04:30:22,744
the police be there in the

7865
04:30:22,744 --> 04:30:24,212
foreground.

7866
04:30:24,212 --> 04:30:25,847
I think that's one step.

7867
04:30:25,847 --> 04:30:27,315
But the other step is, are we

7868
04:30:27,315 --> 04:30:29,500
actually releasing more police

7869
04:30:29,500 --> 04:30:30,118
officers to do more serious

7870
04:30:30,118 --> 04:30:31,386
patrol duty.

7871
04:30:31,386 --> 04:30:33,154
From what you're indicating,

7872
04:30:33,154 --> 04:30:35,900
that wouldn't be the case.

7873
04:30:35,900 --> 04:30:37,920
>> I think -- I don't want to

7874
04:30:37,920 --> 04:30:39,270
undersell and I don't think any

7875
04:30:39,270 --> 04:30:42,627
of us should want to undersell

7876
04:30:42,964 --> 04:30:43,664
the potential danger of a

7877
04:30:43,664 --> 04:30:44,733
domestic violence call.

7878
04:30:44,733 --> 04:30:46,733
Or any call.

7879
04:30:47,469 --> 04:30:49,300
Depending who answers the door

7880
04:30:49,300 --> 04:30:49,804
when you knock on it, who can

7881
04:30:49,804 --> 04:30:51,273
handle it.

7882
04:30:51,273 --> 04:30:54,309
If you want to send a civilian

7883
04:30:54,309 --> 04:30:55,577
to a dangerous call, or could be

7884
04:30:55,577 --> 04:30:57,545
dangerous, have that person

7885
04:30:57,545 --> 04:30:58,714
knock on the door, there's a

7886
04:30:58,714 --> 04:30:59,481
strong potential for that person

7887
04:30:59,481 --> 04:31:00,682
to get hurt.

7888
04:31:00,682 --> 04:31:02,617
>> I'm going to refer the rest

7889
04:31:02,617 --> 04:31:03,585
of this conversation to the

7890
04:31:03,585 --> 04:31:04,986
public safety committee since

7891
04:31:04,986 --> 04:31:07,386
that's where the recommendations

7892
04:31:07,656 --> 04:31:09,458
are going to be baked into and

7893
04:31:09,458 --> 04:31:11,858
brought back to council.

7894
04:31:15,363 --> 04:31:15,596
Let's go to councilmember

7895
04:31:15,596 --> 04:31:16,165
castillo

7896
04:31:16,165 --> 04:31:18,165
castillo.

7897
04:31:22,704 --> 04:31:24,839
>> Castillo: my question is to

7898
04:31:24,839 --> 04:31:26,141
[Lapse in audio] Is there a

7899
04:31:26,141 --> 04:31:26,408
timeline to fill these

7900
04:31:26,408 --> 04:31:28,408
positions?

7901
04:31:29,745 --> 04:31:31,780
>> as part of this project,

7902
04:31:31,780 --> 04:31:34,180
there are recommendations for

7903
04:31:34,516 --> 04:31:35,484
AUGUST, to increase the

7904
04:31:35,484 --> 04:31:37,486
professionals to assist us with

7905
04:31:37,486 --> 04:31:39,886
the mental health calls.

7906
04:31:40,823 --> 04:31:42,824
So we'll provide you that number

7907
04:31:42,824 --> 04:31:43,192
AUGUST 12, once we sign those

7908
04:31:43,192 --> 04:31:44,893
recommendations.

7909
04:31:44,893 --> 04:31:46,228
And of course, with an

7910
04:31:46,228 --> 04:31:47,662
implementation plan as well.

7911
04:31:47,662 --> 04:31:49,330
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

7912
04:31:49,330 --> 04:31:51,990
councilmember castillo.

7913
04:31:51,990 --> 04:31:52,834
Just to wrap this discussion up,

7914
04:31:52,834 --> 04:31:56,505
if we can recall where we were

7915
04:31:56,505 --> 04:31:58,307
last year, with regard to budget

7916
04:31:58,307 --> 04:32:00,707
discussions, it's a different

7917
04:32:03,444 --> 04:32:04,279
tenor, but there are consistent

7918
04:32:04,279 --> 04:32:06,279
sis here.

7919
04:32:06,515 --> 04:32:08,583
And we have to find balance

7920
04:32:08,583 --> 04:32:10,319
between our public safety, not

7921
04:32:10,319 --> 04:32:13,319
just on the emergency response,

7922
04:32:13,689 --> 04:32:14,256
but what we're doing to prevent

7923
04:32:14,256 --> 04:32:15,291
events from happening.

7924
04:32:15,291 --> 04:32:17,691
That's what I'm hearing.

7925
04:32:18,227 --> 04:32:19,961
I'm grateful for the sober

7926
04:32:19,961 --> 04:32:21,130
approach that this council has

7927
04:32:21,130 --> 04:32:23,432
taken to better fund those

7928
04:32:23,432 --> 04:32:24,467
community services, and

7929
04:32:24,467 --> 04:32:26,602
infrastructure such as lighting.

7930
04:32:26,602 --> 04:32:30,802
So that we're not having to fund

7931
04:32:31,173 --> 04:32:32,475
the back end response to

7932
04:32:32,475 --> 04:32:32,908
projects of underfunding

7933
04:32:32,908 --> 04:32:34,576
communities.

7934
04:32:34,576 --> 04:32:35,744
That's the approach I'm grateful

7935
04:32:35,744 --> 04:32:38,744
we're taking and we should

7936
04:32:39,715 --> 04:32:41,817
continue to do that.

7937
04:32:41,817 --> 04:32:42,718
Similarly, I would ask as an

7938
04:32:42,718 --> 04:32:44,152
alternative response, we think

7939
04:32:44,152 --> 04:32:45,487
about what are the metrics that

7940
04:32:45,487 --> 04:32:47,887
we're trying to see.

7941
04:32:49,524 --> 04:32:53,124
What are we trying to achieve

7942
04:32:55,464 --> 04:32:57,464
with alternative response.

7943
04:32:57,933 --> 04:33:00,333
Is it police/community

7944
04:33:01,537 --> 04:33:02,704
interaction in response to

7945
04:33:02,704 --> 04:33:03,406
violence?

7946
04:33:03,406 --> 04:33:04,506
What [Lapse in audio] And

7947
04:33:04,506 --> 04:33:07,506
develop some measures that we

7948
04:33:07,509 --> 04:33:08,844
can come back to, and determine

7949
04:33:08,844 --> 04:33:11,213
whether or not we're achieving

7950
04:33:11,213 --> 04:33:11,781
what we're trying to -- what is

7951
04:33:11,781 --> 04:33:13,615
our desired result.

7952
04:33:13,615 --> 04:33:15,500
I don't know if that's something

7953
04:33:15,500 --> 04:33:15,918
you've already started to think

7954
04:33:15,918 --> 04:33:17,352
about, maria, or chief.

7955
04:33:17,352 --> 04:33:20,622
If you can comment on that.

7956
04:33:20,622 --> 04:33:22,858
But I think we need to identify

7957
04:33:22,858 --> 04:33:23,759
what those goals are, be

7958
04:33:23,759 --> 04:33:24,393
deliberative about it and be

7959
04:33:24,393 --> 04:33:26,793
committed to measuring against

7960
04:33:26,962 --> 04:33:28,962
that.

7961
04:33:29,980 --> 04:33:30,600
>> yes, mayor, we have, again,

7962
04:33:30,600 --> 04:33:32,234
those discussions, especially

7963
04:33:32,234 --> 04:33:33,735
with the work that our metro

7964
04:33:33,735 --> 04:33:35,471
health department is doing, how

7965
04:33:35,471 --> 04:33:35,705
are we going to measure the

7966
04:33:35,705 --> 04:33:37,705
success.

7967
04:33:38,340 --> 04:33:41,900
There's a lot of interaction

7968
04:33:41,900 --> 04:33:44,900
between the work we're doing

7969
04:33:46,348 --> 04:33:47,750
here with the police review and

7970
04:33:47,750 --> 04:33:49,418
metro health strategic plan.

7971
04:33:49,418 --> 04:33:51,921
We don't have it today, but we

7972
04:33:51,921 --> 04:33:54,321
have started those discussions,

7973
04:33:54,556 --> 04:33:55,910
how [Lapse in audio] Impact.

7974
04:33:55,910 --> 04:33:55,724
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay.

7975
04:33:55,724 --> 04:33:59,395
Last thing I'll say is we have

7976
04:33:59,395 --> 04:34:02,395
set the financial policy [Lapse

7977
04:34:05,434 --> 04:34:06,335
in audio] Spending of the

7978
04:34:06,335 --> 04:34:08,335
overall budget.

7979
04:34:08,804 --> 04:34:12,404
We've hit it, we've fallen below

7980
04:34:13,750 --> 04:34:14,243
that on several budgets [Lapse

7981
04:34:14,243 --> 04:34:16,243
in audio] 6

7982
04:34:16,245 --> 04:34:18,245
3, 64% this year?

7983
04:34:20,820 --> 04:34:22,820
>> 64.2, 64.3, yeah.

7984
04:34:22,485 --> 04:34:23,653
>> Mayor Nirenberg: what's

7985
04:34:23,653 --> 04:34:24,954
important going forward is the

7986
04:34:24,954 --> 04:34:26,288
public safety budget grow in

7987
04:34:26,288 --> 04:34:26,789
proportion to the rest of the

7988
04:34:26,789 --> 04:34:28,789
budget.

7989
04:34:29,658 --> 04:34:32,395
I would ask us, again, to take a

7990
04:34:32,395 --> 04:34:35,395
look at these things shift,

7991
04:34:35,464 --> 04:34:37,599
whether that's 66% needs to be

7992
04:34:37,599 --> 04:34:40,135
examined also is an accurate

7993
04:34:40,135 --> 04:34:41,370
measure of the overall size of

7994
04:34:41,370 --> 04:34:41,937
the budgets relative to what

7995
04:34:41,937 --> 04:34:43,973
each of the departments is

7996
04:34:43,973 --> 04:34:45,973
doing.

7997
04:34:46,141 --> 04:34:46,909
That's a different discussion

7998
04:34:46,909 --> 04:34:48,909
for another day.

7999
04:34:49,778 --> 04:34:51,380
I'll go back to erik next so he

8000
04:34:51,380 --> 04:34:52,181
can transition us to the streets

8001
04:34:52,181 --> 04:34:54,181
and sidewalks.

8002
04:34:55,918 --> 04:34:56,486
>> you just did, mayor.

8003
04:34:56,486 --> 04:34:59,486
Actually, I think tomika is

8004
04:35:01,156 --> 04:35:03,156
starting.

8005
04:35:05,828 --> 04:35:09,428
Tomika will go first, and then

8006
04:35:18,473 --> 04:35:20,473
razi.

8007
04:35:20,877 --> 04:35:22,877
Tomikaing

8008
04:35:24,346 --> 04:35:25,140
tomika, welcome to your first

8009
04:35:25,140 --> 04:35:26,782
budget session.

8010
04:35:26,782 --> 04:35:28,782
>> good afternoon, everyone,

8011
04:35:29,850 --> 04:35:30,190
MR. Mayor, councilmembers, thank

8012
04:35:30,190 --> 04:35:32,187
you for the opportunity to share

8013
04:35:32,187 --> 04:35:34,256
a little bit about our

8014
04:35:34,256 --> 04:35:35,424
transportation and mobility

8015
04:35:35,424 --> 04:35:37,424
plan.

8016
04:35:38,561 --> 04:35:40,930
I'm the director of the

8017
04:35:40,930 --> 04:35:42,765
department of transportation.

8018
04:35:42,765 --> 04:35:44,433
>> so, first of all, I think

8019
04:35:44,433 --> 04:35:45,968
it's important to start with

8020
04:35:45,968 --> 04:35:49,568
what our vision and mission is.

8021
04:35:49,806 --> 04:35:52,107
The focus of the transportation

8022
04:35:52,107 --> 04:35:54,310
department is to focus on being

8023
04:35:54,310 --> 04:35:56,479
dedicated to creating a safe,

8024
04:35:56,479 --> 04:35:57,246
sustainable and equitable

8025
04:35:57,246 --> 04:35:58,314
multi-modal transportation

8026
04:35:58,314 --> 04:35:59,649
system for the city.

8027
04:35:59,649 --> 04:36:02,840
And we're going to do that

8028
04:36:02,840 --> 04:36:04,840
through strategic planning,

8029
04:36:05,388 --> 04:36:07,560
community conversations,

8030
04:36:07,560 --> 04:36:09,392
analysis, safety education, and

8031
04:36:09,392 --> 04:36:11,392
project implementation.

8032
04:36:11,661 --> 04:36:14,430
As you can see from this slide,

8033
04:36:14,430 --> 04:36:18,300
our focus areas are sa bikes,

8034
04:36:18,400 --> 04:36:20,800
vision, and sa tomorrow.

8035
04:36:21,700 --> 04:36:24,607
The objective of sa bikes and

8036
04:36:24,607 --> 04:36:25,542
vision zero, develop a safe and

8037
04:36:25,542 --> 04:36:27,542
connected network of

8038
04:36:28,411 --> 04:36:31,411
infrastructure for sa [Lapse in

8039
04:36:31,648 --> 04:36:33,449
audio] And eliminate traffic

8040
04:36:33,449 --> 04:36:34,484
fatalities and severe injuries

8041
04:36:34,484 --> 04:36:36,484
with vision zero.

8042
04:36:37,254 --> 04:36:40,222
Some of our key strategies,

8043
04:36:40,222 --> 04:36:43,222
number one program, to update

8044
04:36:45,494 --> 04:36:48,970
the bike [Lapse in audio] Plan.

8045
04:36:48,970 --> 04:36:50,300
We want to educate everyone

8046
04:36:50,300 --> 04:36:51,201
about what is the bicycle

8047
04:36:51,201 --> 04:36:53,201
infrastructure, identify what

8048
04:36:53,470 --> 04:36:55,505
the needs are of san antonians

8049
04:36:55,505 --> 04:36:56,839
related to bicycle

8050
04:36:56,839 --> 04:36:59,676
infrastructure, and I think as

8051
04:36:59,676 --> 04:37:01,100
we talk about bike

8052
04:37:01,100 --> 04:37:03,410
infrastructure, where is that

8053
04:37:04,280 --> 04:37:06,282
latent demand for bicycle use,

8054
04:37:06,282 --> 04:37:08,852
or people who use cycling.

8055
04:37:08,852 --> 04:37:11,220
We want a safe culture,

8056
04:37:11,220 --> 04:37:12,255
inclusive culture, also engage

8057
04:37:12,255 --> 04:37:14,891
and educate our community about

8058
04:37:14,891 --> 04:37:16,891
bicycling in cities.

8059
04:37:16,926 --> 04:37:18,661
Now, when we talk about vision

8060
04:37:18,661 --> 04:37:19,896
zero, these two programs are

8061
04:37:19,896 --> 04:37:22,265
interrelated in that we are

8062
04:37:22,265 --> 04:37:24,467
using the data we get from

8063
04:37:24,467 --> 04:37:26,402
injuries and fatalities

8064
04:37:26,402 --> 04:37:29,105
associated with the vision zero

8065
04:37:29,105 --> 04:37:30,773
program to outline and inform

8066
04:37:30,773 --> 04:37:31,875
how we approach, and the areas

8067
04:37:31,875 --> 04:37:32,776
we improve bicycle

8068
04:37:32,776 --> 04:37:34,110
infrastructure.

8069
04:37:34,110 --> 04:37:36,120
I think it's really critical

8070
04:37:36,120 --> 04:37:39,120
that we recognize these are

8071
04:37:39,349 --> 04:37:41,518
related programs, and how we

8072
04:37:41,518 --> 04:37:42,485
[Lapse in audio] By looking at

8073
04:37:42,485 --> 04:37:45,485
the statistics and the data.

8074
04:37:45,989 --> 04:37:48,158
So really, with this

8075
04:37:48,158 --> 04:37:50,558
multi-meadal plan, we talked

8076
04:37:50,960 --> 04:37:52,495
about the multi-modal plan, but

8077
04:37:52,495 --> 04:37:54,464
most important right now is

8078
04:37:54,464 --> 04:37:56,800
safety, and moving forward we

8079
04:37:56,800 --> 04:37:59,435
need a big master plan update

8080
04:37:59,435 --> 04:38:00,436
where we spend the next day

8081
04:38:00,436 --> 04:38:02,436
doing surveying.

8082
04:38:03,240 --> 04:38:04,707
I think the body has spoken

8083
04:38:04,707 --> 04:38:06,676
about data and analysis.

8084
04:38:06,676 --> 04:38:06,876
This is ideal for us to get the

8085
04:38:06,876 --> 04:38:08,876
data.

8086
04:38:09,313 --> 04:38:11,248
One of the reasons why we cannot

8087
04:38:11,248 --> 04:38:12,950
provide a lot of detail about

8088
04:38:12,950 --> 04:38:15,251
our program today is because we

8089
04:38:15,251 --> 04:38:17,251
don't have data.

8090
04:38:19,990 --> 04:38:22,325
So if you think 2011 was the

8091
04:38:22,325 --> 04:38:25,562
last plan was updated, we had

8092
04:38:25,562 --> 04:38:28,231
over a decade where we didn't

8093
04:38:28,231 --> 04:38:30,834
have [Lapse in audio] To inform

8094
04:38:30,834 --> 04:38:31,201
how we develop future bicycle

8095
04:38:31,201 --> 04:38:32,235
infrastructure.

8096
04:38:32,235 --> 04:38:33,470
The last program I want to talk

8097
04:38:33,470 --> 04:38:34,771
about is sa tomorrow.

8098
04:38:34,771 --> 04:38:36,973
This city has developed vision

8099
04:38:36,973 --> 04:38:38,909
for where we want to go with

8100
04:38:38,909 --> 04:38:39,876
sustainability, with housing,

8101
04:38:39,876 --> 04:38:42,178
our comprehensive plan, and also

8102
04:38:42,178 --> 04:38:44,178
with multi-modalism.

8103
04:38:44,848 --> 04:38:46,316
How we're approaching our part

8104
04:38:46,316 --> 04:38:48,618
as the transportation department

8105
04:38:48,618 --> 04:38:51,254
is we're going to let the land

8106
04:38:51,254 --> 04:38:51,721
use guide our transportation

8107
04:38:51,721 --> 04:38:53,721
investments, and our

8108
04:38:53,723 --> 04:38:55,225
transportation planning process.

8109
04:38:55,225 --> 04:38:56,226
So we're coordinating with the

8110
04:38:56,226 --> 04:38:58,228
planning department, and the

8111
04:38:58,228 --> 04:39:01,331
next step for us is to develop

8112
04:39:01,331 --> 04:39:02,532
transportation plans, or

8113
04:39:02,532 --> 04:39:03,767
multi-modal transportation plans

8114
04:39:03,767 --> 04:39:05,680
that are informed by the land

8115
04:39:05,680 --> 04:39:06,869
use priorities.

8116
04:39:06,869 --> 04:39:08,671
We'll work with our partners at

8117
04:39:08,671 --> 04:39:11,541
via, and work with our partners

8118
04:39:11,541 --> 04:39:12,642
at ampo and acot, and with all

8119
04:39:12,642 --> 04:39:15,245
of your districts to understand

8120
04:39:15,245 --> 04:39:16,779
based on those land use plans

8121
04:39:16,779 --> 04:39:18,381
that many have been adopted, how

8122
04:39:18,381 --> 04:39:20,250
does your community, how do your

8123
04:39:20,250 --> 04:39:22,650
constituents want to circulate.

8124
04:39:23,186 --> 04:39:24,554
What are their priority modes

8125
04:39:24,554 --> 04:39:26,857
for their areas, where schools

8126
04:39:26,857 --> 04:39:28,158
are located, based on where

8127
04:39:28,158 --> 04:39:30,600
businesses are located, and the

8128
04:39:30,600 --> 04:39:31,862
rest of the components.

8129
04:39:31,862 --> 04:39:34,862
Right now, how we've been

8130
04:39:34,931 --> 04:39:37,267
developing plans is through our

8131
04:39:37,267 --> 04:39:39,667
bike I&p programs.

8132
04:39:39,803 --> 04:39:41,471
For example, we're using bike

8133
04:39:41,471 --> 04:39:41,938
imp funds for the trails

8134
04:39:41,938 --> 04:39:43,938
projects.

8135
04:39:44,274 --> 04:39:47,544
We're also looking at brooks and

8136
04:39:47,544 --> 04:39:49,146
utsa right now with the imp

8137
04:39:49,146 --> 04:39:50,414
program for those areas which

8138
04:39:50,414 --> 04:39:51,800
are supporting the land use

8139
04:39:51,800 --> 04:39:54,800
plans that have already been

8140
04:39:54,584 --> 04:39:56,984
outlined through sa tomorrow.

8141
04:39:57,487 --> 04:39:59,689
So one of the initiatives of

8142
04:39:59,689 --> 04:40:01,992
leadership is to target specific

8143
04:40:01,992 --> 04:40:02,792
areas for pedestrian and safety

8144
04:40:02,792 --> 04:40:04,528
improvements.

8145
04:40:04,528 --> 04:40:06,329
We've identified, based on the

8146
04:40:06,329 --> 04:40:09,990
data that we have related to

8147
04:40:09,990 --> 04:40:11,635
crashes, where we need to invest

8148
04:40:11,635 --> 04:40:13,635
in the crossings.

8149
04:40:15,272 --> 04:40:18,272
These are areas that are

8150
04:40:18,775 --> 04:40:21,175
typically high traffic, adp,

8151
04:40:28,510 --> 04:40:30,510
[Lapse in audio].

8152
04:40:31,540 --> 04:40:31,688
We've seen an increase in a

8153
04:40:31,688 --> 04:40:34,880
consistent series of fatalities

8154
04:40:34,691 --> 04:40:36,691
and injuries.

8155
04:40:38,729 --> 04:40:40,364
We look to this body [Lapse in

8156
04:40:40,364 --> 04:40:41,765
audio] In doing these projects

8157
04:40:41,765 --> 04:40:44,134
because part of the process is

8158
04:40:44,134 --> 04:40:45,569
going to be the baby steps.

8159
04:40:45,569 --> 04:40:47,104
So when we talk about the bike

8160
04:40:47,104 --> 04:40:48,638
manager plan, I know many people

8161
04:40:48,638 --> 04:40:50,741
think, hey, are we going to have

8162
04:40:50,741 --> 04:40:51,608
to get the bike infrastructure

8163
04:40:51,608 --> 04:40:52,420
that we need?

8164
04:40:52,420 --> 04:40:54,420
No.

8165
04:40:55,545 --> 04:40:58,915
We propose to use the imp this

8166
04:40:58,915 --> 04:41:01,252
year to develop what they've

8167
04:41:01,252 --> 04:41:02,180
utilized in denver called low

8168
04:41:02,180 --> 04:41:04,180
stress streets.

8169
04:41:04,655 --> 04:41:06,957
So instead of continue

8170
04:41:06,957 --> 04:41:08,957
ing [Lapse

8171
04:41:09,192 --> 04:41:10,761
in audio] We know are 35 miles

8172
04:41:10,761 --> 04:41:13,430
an hour where we experience

8173
04:41:13,430 --> 04:41:14,899
fatalities, we want to take our

8174
04:41:14,899 --> 04:41:16,934
imp moneys and develop a

8175
04:41:16,934 --> 04:41:18,934
low-stress system.

8176
04:41:19,203 --> 04:41:20,670
I've been calling it a bunny

8177
04:41:20,670 --> 04:41:22,172
rabbit system, you know,

8178
04:41:22,172 --> 04:41:23,507
compared to the bunny slopes.

8179
04:41:23,507 --> 04:41:24,775
This is going to be something

8180
04:41:24,775 --> 04:41:27,678
that responds to the needs of

8181
04:41:27,678 --> 04:41:28,712
the bicycle community.

8182
04:41:28,712 --> 04:41:31,949
[Lapse in audio] In the process

8183
04:41:31,949 --> 04:41:35,549
of updating our master plan, we

8184
04:41:36,653 --> 04:41:38,855
can have a multi-colored, I

8185
04:41:38,855 --> 04:41:41,658
mean, shared use paths and bike

8186
04:41:41,658 --> 04:41:42,760
lanes, but we can also have a

8187
04:41:42,760 --> 04:41:44,628
dedicated route system for

8188
04:41:44,628 --> 04:41:45,796
people to travel on their

8189
04:41:45,796 --> 04:41:47,464
bicycles and not feel

8190
04:41:47,464 --> 04:41:48,732
intimidated by the road.

8191
04:41:48,732 --> 04:41:51,668
And that's something we can

8192
04:41:51,668 --> 04:41:52,436
collect data on and see how

8193
04:41:52,436 --> 04:41:54,436
people experience that.

8194
04:41:54,471 --> 04:41:56,239
With that, I would like to open

8195
04:41:56,239 --> 04:41:58,175
it up to any questions that you

8196
04:41:58,175 --> 04:42:00,878
MAY all have to not just bicycle

8197
04:42:00,878 --> 04:42:01,512
programs, but also to any of the

8198
04:42:01,512 --> 04:42:04,512
other programs I'll share with

8199
04:42:04,648 --> 04:42:06,584
you this afternoon.

8200
04:42:06,584 --> 04:42:08,585
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you

8201
04:42:08,585 --> 04:42:10,585
very much, tomika.

8202
04:42:13,724 --> 04:42:15,726
Are we -- so will we have razi

8203
04:42:15,726 --> 04:42:16,827
come up and do this all

8204
04:42:16,827 --> 04:42:17,127
together?

8205
04:42:17,127 --> 04:42:18,429
Okay.

8206
04:42:18,429 --> 04:42:19,530
We'll take razi and take

8207
04:42:19,530 --> 04:42:21,131
questions from both of you at

8208
04:42:21,131 --> 04:42:21,331
the same time, if that's all

8209
04:42:21,331 --> 04:42:22,899
right.

8210
04:42:22,899 --> 04:42:24,899
>> all right.

8211
04:42:24,902 --> 04:42:26,902
>> Mayor Nirenberg: great.

8212
04:42:31,475 --> 04:42:33,377
>> good afternoon mayor and

8213
04:42:33,377 --> 04:42:35,377
council.

8214
04:42:38,482 --> 04:42:40,882
I am razi hosseini.

8215
04:42:42,319 --> 04:42:42,954
We have over 4,190 miles [Lapse

8216
04:42:42,954 --> 04:42:45,954
in audio] Network throughout the

8217
04:42:45,956 --> 04:42:47,956
city.

8218
04:42:48,226 --> 04:42:49,660
42% is in excellent condition or

8219
04:42:49,660 --> 04:42:51,660
grade a.

8220
04:42:53,960 --> 04:42:55,232
22% is good condition, grade b.

8221
04:42:55,232 --> 04:42:55,566
12% is fair condition or grade

8222
04:42:55,566 --> 04:42:57,566
c.

8223
04:42:59,170 --> 04:43:01,706
And another 12% is [Lapse in

8224
04:43:01,706 --> 04:43:04,106
audio] Or grade d.

8225
04:43:04,242 --> 04:43:05,676
And we have [Lapse in audio] Is

8226
04:43:05,676 --> 04:43:07,676
11%.

8227
04:43:08,110 --> 04:43:10,411
Overall, our network, 77% is

8228
04:43:12,316 --> 04:43:14,716
good to fair condition.

8229
04:43:15,619 --> 04:43:17,187
At 23% in poor or fair

8230
04:43:17,187 --> 04:43:19,587
condition, which we'll be

8231
04:43:19,657 --> 04:43:21,920
talking with you on the next

8232
04:43:21,920 --> 04:43:23,920
slide.

8233
04:43:26,631 --> 04:43:27,364
As I mentioned, we have 4

8234
04:43:27,364 --> 04:43:29,364
,000

8235
04:43:34,338 --> 04:43:36,738
[Lapse in audio] Network.

8236
04:43:39,510 --> 04:43:41,145
Estimated cost is 904 million.

8237
04:43:41,145 --> 04:43:42,747
Historically, bond program has

8238
04:43:42,747 --> 04:43:44,949
focused on enhancing and

8239
04:43:44,949 --> 04:43:46,949
reconstruction project.

8240
04:43:47,500 --> 04:43:51,589
As you can see on the table at

8241
04:43:51,589 --> 04:43:54,792
the right, the maximum number of

8242
04:43:54,792 --> 04:43:57,792
[Lapse in audio] In district 2.

8243
04:44:03,334 --> 04:44:05,734
And [Lapse in audio] 1%.

8244
04:44:08,873 --> 04:44:11,873
The proposed statement in bond

8245
04:44:12,644 --> 04:44:15,440
funding, we are proposing

8246
04:44:15,212 --> 04:44:17,612
operating funds to 38.8 million,

8247
04:44:18,716 --> 04:44:20,716
certificates of obligation, 71.2

8248
04:44:21,850 --> 04:44:21,620
million, [Lapse in audio] Bond

8249
04:44:21,620 --> 04:44:23,620
program, and 110 million

8250
04:44:25,823 --> 04:44:27,823
funding.

8251
04:44:30,495 --> 04:44:32,230
by '23 we are also proposing 10

8252
04:44:32,230 --> 04:44:34,230
million, 38.8 million in

8253
04:44:35,499 --> 04:44:37,499
operating funds, 51.2 million

8254
04:44:40,505 --> 04:44:40,838
from certificates of only

8255
04:44:40,838 --> 04:44:41,940
continuation,

8256
04:44:41,940 --> 04:44:44,340
obligation, and 20 million to

8257
04:44:47,578 --> 04:44:49,978
come from the bond.

8258
04:44:51,683 --> 04:44:55,283
This slide shows the city [Lapse

8259
04:44:56,554 --> 04:44:58,954
in audio] Funding, since 2018.

8260
04:45:01,993 --> 04:45:03,661
The goal is maintain and improve

8261
04:45:03,661 --> 04:45:05,297
(Indiscernible) Or above.

8262
04:45:05,297 --> 04:45:08,897
Overall, we are moving in the

8263
04:45:09,701 --> 04:45:09,967
right direction of pci's

8264
04:45:09,967 --> 04:45:11,350
improving.

8265
04:45:11,350 --> 04:45:13,572
Pci improvement, and also bond

8266
04:45:13,572 --> 04:45:15,572
funding.

8267
04:45:16,440 --> 04:45:20,640
As you can see on this graph,

8268
04:45:21,450 --> 04:45:24,150
our pci curve was very flat in

8269
04:45:24,150 --> 04:45:26,150
2019 and 2020.

8270
04:45:27,185 --> 04:45:28,620
This was because of the

8271
04:45:28,620 --> 04:45:30,155
deferral, we had 50 million

8272
04:45:30,155 --> 04:45:32,555
deferred last year, therefore

8273
04:45:38,663 --> 04:45:39,564
pci stays very flat.

8274
04:45:39,564 --> 04:45:41,566
[Lapse in audio] Budget

8275
04:45:41,566 --> 04:45:43,100
allocation, what we are

8276
04:45:43,100 --> 04:45:44,803
proposing, very similar to what

8277
04:45:44,803 --> 04:45:47,203
we did last year.

8278
04:45:48,940 --> 04:45:51,340
110 million, 50% based on the

8279
04:45:52,243 --> 04:45:54,111
size of the district, and

8280
04:45:54,111 --> 04:45:57,711
another 50% to be done based on

8281
04:45:58,283 --> 04:45:58,650
the condition of the

8282
04:45:58,650 --> 04:46:00,650
(Indiscernible).

8283
04:46:06,900 --> 04:46:07,992
Because of this, we are

8284
04:46:07,992 --> 04:46:11,620
proposing to get more funding to

8285
04:46:11,620 --> 04:46:12,697
be able to maintain.

8286
04:46:12,697 --> 04:46:15,667
On the table on the right is

8287
04:46:15,667 --> 04:46:18,604
based on the condition, council

8288
04:46:18,604 --> 04:46:20,772
district 1 and 2 and 10, it has

8289
04:46:20,772 --> 04:46:23,772
a higher condition, therefore we

8290
04:46:25,444 --> 04:46:28,444
are proposing to get more

8291
04:46:30,181 --> 04:46:32,417
funding to address those issues.

8292
04:46:32,417 --> 04:46:33,852
As I mentioned how we are

8293
04:46:33,852 --> 04:46:36,852
proposed to do this relegation,

8294
04:46:37,388 --> 04:46:40,491
as you can see 55 million based

8295
04:46:40,491 --> 04:46:43,491
on the size districts 2 and 10

8296
04:46:46,130 --> 04:46:46,831
will get maximum funding, over 6

8297
04:46:46,831 --> 04:46:48,831
million.

8298
04:46:48,833 --> 04:46:50,702
And when you look at the

8299
04:46:50,702 --> 04:46:53,205
condition of the network in the

8300
04:46:53,205 --> 04:46:55,373
middle of the table, district 1,

8301
04:46:55,373 --> 04:46:56,541
2 and 10 will be getting maximum

8302
04:46:56,541 --> 04:46:58,420
funding.

8303
04:46:58,420 --> 04:47:00,479
Overall, the number on the right

8304
04:47:00,479 --> 04:47:03,479
side of this table, council

8305
04:47:03,615 --> 04:47:04,916
district 2 and 10, and of

8306
04:47:04,916 --> 04:47:07,916
course, one will be getting

8307
04:47:08,887 --> 04:47:11,887
maximum of the funding for 2022.

8308
04:47:12,991 --> 04:47:15,991
Let's talk about the sidewalk.

8309
04:47:18,130 --> 04:47:22,133
We have [Lapse in audio] And of

8310
04:47:22,133 --> 04:47:22,367
course we have [Lapse in audio]

8311
04:47:22,367 --> 04:47:24,367
Gaps.

8312
04:47:24,669 --> 04:47:25,270
District 3 has the maximum gap,

8313
04:47:25,270 --> 04:47:27,439
and district 6 has a minimum

8314
04:47:27,439 --> 04:47:29,439
gap.

8315
04:47:30,775 --> 04:47:34,120
If we had to address these

8316
04:47:34,120 --> 04:47:37,612
sidewalks today, it will cost us

8317
04:47:38,483 --> 04:47:40,285
$565 million to address.

8318
04:47:40,285 --> 04:47:42,285
Councilmember pelaez, you're

8319
04:47:42,421 --> 04:47:45,156
right, the price has gone up.

8320
04:47:45,156 --> 04:47:47,556
In 2019, we were building

8321
04:47:48,260 --> 04:47:50,660
sidewalks $65 per linear foot.

8322
04:47:51,162 --> 04:47:54,733
Four foot wide, one foot long,

8323
04:47:54,733 --> 04:47:56,201
and 65 feet.

8324
04:47:56,201 --> 04:47:57,169
Now $65 and more.

8325
04:47:57,169 --> 04:47:59,169
Why?

8326
04:48:00,772 --> 04:48:04,372
Because of the lumber [Lapse in

8327
04:48:04,643 --> 04:48:07,946
audio] Concrete has gone up, the

8328
04:48:07,946 --> 04:48:08,847
price has increase ed

8329
04:48:08,847 --> 04:48:10,847
d

8330
04:48:12,840 --> 04:48:14,840
(Indiscernible) 20%.

8331
04:48:16,421 --> 04:48:19,421
This is since 2018 to 2022, how

8332
04:48:19,491 --> 04:48:21,794
much we have spent and how much

8333
04:48:21,794 --> 04:48:24,194
we're going to spend.

8334
04:48:24,596 --> 04:48:26,996
From 2018 to 2021, we have

8335
04:48:27,666 --> 04:48:29,234
average spent 18 million on the

8336
04:48:29,234 --> 04:48:32,234
sidewalk, the majority [Lapse in

8337
04:48:32,437 --> 04:48:33,500
audio] And of course, att

8338
04:48:33,500 --> 04:48:35,500
funding.

8339
04:48:37,743 --> 04:48:38,543
Next year we'll only have 11.5.

8340
04:48:38,543 --> 04:48:39,778
11.1 million.

8341
04:48:39,778 --> 04:48:42,178
Because since completing the

8342
04:48:42,581 --> 04:48:44,981
2017 bond program, the APRIL

8343
04:48:45,351 --> 04:48:48,320
sidewalk funding is going down.

8344
04:48:48,320 --> 04:48:50,823
That's good news, we are

8345
04:48:50,823 --> 04:48:51,423
finishing from $84 million we

8346
04:48:51,423 --> 04:48:55,230
had [Lapse in audio] We are

8347
04:48:56,662 --> 04:48:59,620
finishing most of those.

8348
04:49:00,533 --> 04:49:03,135
This is how it shows our time

8349
04:49:03,135 --> 04:49:05,135
proposed 2022 program.

8350
04:49:05,738 --> 04:49:08,138
program development start JUNE,

8351
04:49:09,207 --> 04:49:10,375
and last year [Lapse in audio]

8352
04:49:10,375 --> 04:49:12,375
And many departments.

8353
04:49:13,120 --> 04:49:15,412
OCTOBER to DECEMBER, consultant

8354
04:49:16,882 --> 04:49:19,282
selection to assist us.

8355
04:49:19,451 --> 04:49:21,320
Project scoping JANUARY and JUNE

8356
04:49:21,320 --> 04:49:21,953
of this year.

8357
04:49:21,953 --> 04:49:24,353
Committee appointment JUNE to

8358
04:49:25,240 --> 04:49:25,991
JULY of this year.

8359
04:49:25,991 --> 04:49:28,270
AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, we're going

8360
04:49:28,270 --> 04:49:30,329
to have recommended project

8361
04:49:30,329 --> 04:49:32,310
lists for the council.

8362
04:49:32,310 --> 04:49:34,133
OCTOBER to DECEMBER we will have

8363
04:49:34,133 --> 04:49:36,133
a community meeting.

8364
04:49:36,636 --> 04:49:37,670
JANUARY to FEBRUARY of next

8365
04:49:37,670 --> 04:49:40,670
year, council will be calling

8366
04:49:42,740 --> 04:49:43,743
for the election, and first

8367
04:49:43,743 --> 04:49:46,679
saturday in MAY of 2022 will be

8368
04:49:46,679 --> 04:49:47,747
the election.

8369
04:49:47,747 --> 04:49:48,347
Tomika and I are available to

8370
04:49:48,347 --> 04:49:51,347
answer any questions you MAY

8371
04:49:54,153 --> 04:49:54,786
have.

8372
04:49:54,786 --> 04:49:57,186
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you

8373
04:49:57,689 --> 04:49:59,689
for the presentations.

8374
04:50:02,228 --> 04:50:03,629
And I know my colleagues [Lapse

8375
04:50:03,629 --> 04:50:05,130
in audio] The last slide you

8376
04:50:05,130 --> 04:50:06,965
showed, and I ask that you not

8377
04:50:06,965 --> 04:50:07,666
fret in terms of that JUNE and

8378
04:50:07,666 --> 04:50:09,666
JULY date.

8379
04:50:10,602 --> 04:50:12,305
We are a little bit behind that

8380
04:50:12,305 --> 04:50:15,374
calendar, for a lot of reasons.

8381
04:50:15,374 --> 04:50:16,842
Not the least of which is that

8382
04:50:16,842 --> 04:50:18,544
we're taking a couple steps back

8383
04:50:18,544 --> 04:50:20,513
before we go full steps forward

8384
04:50:20,513 --> 04:50:20,780
in talking about strategic

8385
04:50:20,780 --> 04:50:22,448
outcomes.

8386
04:50:22,448 --> 04:50:24,160
We talked about things like

8387
04:50:24,160 --> 04:50:24,316
public health, connectivity,

8388
04:50:24,316 --> 04:50:26,316
resilience.

8389
04:50:27,186 --> 04:50:28,788
But also the fact we're trying

8390
04:50:28,788 --> 04:50:31,390
to coordinate with the county as

8391
04:50:31,390 --> 04:50:33,559
well as integrate our priorities

8392
04:50:33,559 --> 04:50:34,426
with all the other potential

8393
04:50:34,426 --> 04:50:35,128
infrastructure programs that

8394
04:50:35,128 --> 04:50:37,362
might be available to us,

8395
04:50:37,362 --> 04:50:38,497
whether it's the arp, discussion

8396
04:50:38,497 --> 04:50:41,968
that we're going to have in

8397
04:50:41,968 --> 04:50:45,568
phase 2, or what looks to be

8398
04:50:46,139 --> 04:50:46,739
some consensus building on an

8399
04:50:46,739 --> 04:50:48,141
infrastructure bill.

8400
04:50:48,141 --> 04:50:49,608
so all of those are going to be

8401
04:50:49,608 --> 04:50:49,809
in the context of this slide

8402
04:50:49,809 --> 04:50:51,809
here.

8403
04:50:52,110 --> 04:50:53,245
So as you think about the people

8404
04:50:53,245 --> 04:50:55,582
in the community that you would

8405
04:50:55,582 --> 04:50:59,182
like to appoint to the bonds,

8406
04:50:59,952 --> 04:51:01,420
the bond process, just note that

8407
04:51:01,420 --> 04:51:03,880
you didn't MISS A deadline or

8408
04:51:03,880 --> 04:51:05,880
anything like that.

8409
04:51:05,391 --> 04:51:09,610
If I have -- I just wanted to go

8410
04:51:09,610 --> 04:51:10,620
to two slides, and just say,

8411
04:51:10,620 --> 04:51:11,630
tomika, I agree with everything

8412
04:51:11,630 --> 04:51:12,731
you said, so I don't really have

8413
04:51:12,731 --> 04:51:14,166
any questions for you.

8414
04:51:14,166 --> 04:51:15,902
I'm very much looking forward to

8415
04:51:15,902 --> 04:51:17,403
the work that you're doing on

8416
04:51:17,403 --> 04:51:19,672
land use integration with our

8417
04:51:19,672 --> 04:51:21,273
mobility plans, with sa

8418
04:51:21,273 --> 04:51:23,273
tomorrow.

8419
04:51:25,770 --> 04:51:26,446
And also, your call of the bunny

8420
04:51:26,446 --> 04:51:29,820
routes on the master plan.

8421
04:51:29,820 --> 04:51:31,250
I wholeheartedly agree, and I

8422
04:51:31,250 --> 04:51:34,850
think we need a bicycle master

8423
04:51:39,552 --> 04:51:40,403
plan, but this council, I'm sure

8424
04:51:40,403 --> 04:51:40,501
I am interested, in an sec

8425
04:51:40,501 --> 04:51:40,607
rating development of the routes

8426
04:51:40,607 --> 04:51:40,726
that we can, where we know there

8427
04:51:40,726 --> 04:51:41,828
are priorities.

8428
04:51:41,828 --> 04:51:43,129
So looking forward to working

8429
04:51:43,129 --> 04:51:44,297
with you on that.

8430
04:51:44,297 --> 04:51:48,497
Can we go to slide 2 of your

8431
04:51:49,269 --> 04:51:51,269
presentation, razi?

8432
04:51:52,472 --> 04:51:54,400
So our equity framework really

8433
04:51:54,400 --> 04:51:56,642
began in the tci budget.

8434
04:51:56,642 --> 04:51:58,344
Now it's split out.

8435
04:51:58,344 --> 04:52:02,544
But maybe it's the -- it's slide

8436
04:52:13,726 --> 04:52:15,726
2.

8437
04:52:16,529 --> 04:52:18,698
If you don't have it today,

8438
04:52:18,698 --> 04:52:21,670
maybe when you have your

8439
04:52:21,670 --> 04:52:22,836
department look at this, I'd

8440
04:52:22,836 --> 04:52:24,700
like to see what this looks like

8441
04:52:24,700 --> 04:52:26,840
compared to when we started.

8442
04:52:26,840 --> 04:52:28,875
The idea is, we're trying to get

8443
04:52:28,875 --> 04:52:30,810
more of those roads citywide

8444
04:52:30,810 --> 04:52:33,810
into the excellent category and

8445
04:52:34,480 --> 04:52:34,714
see fewer of them in the fair to

8446
04:52:34,714 --> 04:52:36,714
failed.

8447
04:52:36,750 --> 04:52:39,510
And also see the proportions

8448
04:52:39,510 --> 04:52:41,287
equalize district by district.

8449
04:52:41,287 --> 04:52:43,220
Very simple way of looking at

8450
04:52:43,220 --> 04:52:44,624
equity is obviously very

8451
04:52:44,624 --> 04:52:46,226
superficial way of looking at

8452
04:52:46,226 --> 04:52:49,128
equity but it's one step we took

8453
04:52:49,128 --> 04:52:49,762
to get to where we are now.

8454
04:52:49,762 --> 04:52:53,962
What I want to talk about is

8455
04:52:55,168 --> 04:52:57,168
slide 4.

8456
04:52:58,404 --> 04:53:00,473
As I've discussed, I think erik

8457
04:53:00,473 --> 04:53:01,407
has talked with a number of

8458
04:53:01,407 --> 04:53:03,209
councilmembers also, the

8459
04:53:03,209 --> 04:53:06,209
challenge that we're having, so

8460
04:53:06,846 --> 04:53:09,682
when I came on to this council,

8461
04:53:09,682 --> 04:53:13,282
my first budget in 2014, we were

8462
04:53:15,655 --> 04:53:16,222
spending annually $35 million a

8463
04:53:16,222 --> 04:53:18,622
year on street maintenance.

8464
04:53:19,580 --> 04:53:21,227
Which is a pittance compared to

8465
04:53:21,227 --> 04:53:23,597
what we're doing now.

8466
04:53:23,597 --> 04:53:25,997
In 2017 we ticked up

8467
04:53:26,800 --> 04:53:28,800
significantly, three-fold about,

8468
04:53:29,969 --> 04:53:31,969
increased it to 110.

8469
04:53:33,373 --> 04:53:34,807
We deferred a little bit, as a

8470
04:53:34,807 --> 04:53:35,809
result of the pandemic.

8471
04:53:35,809 --> 04:53:37,510
But what's really been happening

8472
04:53:37,510 --> 04:53:40,413
in the time we've been

8473
04:53:40,413 --> 04:53:41,815
allocating all these resources,

8474
04:53:41,815 --> 04:53:43,683
we're appropriating dollars but

8475
04:53:43,683 --> 04:53:43,917
not spending them in the annual

8476
04:53:43,917 --> 04:53:45,785
budget.

8477
04:53:45,785 --> 04:53:47,521
Because a lot of those roads

8478
04:53:47,521 --> 04:53:49,789
that we're budgeting for end up

8479
04:53:49,789 --> 04:53:50,624
to be pretty large

8480
04:53:50,624 --> 04:53:52,624
reconstruction projects.

8481
04:53:53,393 --> 04:53:54,861
And so we're appropriating

8482
04:53:54,861 --> 04:53:57,861
dollars in the current fiscal

8483
04:53:57,997 --> 04:54:00,700
year, not seeing them spent

8484
04:54:00,700 --> 04:54:01,535
until year two, even sometimes

8485
04:54:01,535 --> 04:54:03,136
year three.

8486
04:54:03,136 --> 04:54:05,500
Especially if we're thinking

8487
04:54:05,500 --> 04:54:07,500
about improving infrastructure

8488
04:54:07,608 --> 04:54:10,608
in our community, and also

8489
04:54:10,977 --> 04:54:13,113
putting those to their best use.

8490
04:54:13,113 --> 04:54:14,881
We're not doing that, if we're

8491
04:54:14,881 --> 04:54:17,281
budgeting annually for programs

8492
04:54:17,383 --> 04:54:17,583
that take two or three years to

8493
04:54:17,583 --> 04:54:19,583
spend.

8494
04:54:22,188 --> 04:54:23,456
Which is why you now have the fy

8495
04:54:23,456 --> 04:54:24,558
2023 budget indicating $20

8496
04:54:24,558 --> 04:54:25,793
million coming from the bond

8497
04:54:25,793 --> 04:54:27,793
program.

8498
04:54:28,161 --> 04:54:30,964
Those are dollars that we were

8499
04:54:30,964 --> 04:54:32,232
budgeting, but are more

8500
04:54:32,232 --> 04:54:34,100
traditionally bond projects.

8501
04:54:34,100 --> 04:54:36,636
So erik, correct me if I'm

8502
04:54:36,636 --> 04:54:39,940
wrong, but in so doing, you're

8503
04:54:39,940 --> 04:54:40,507
basically freeing capacity for

8504
04:54:40,507 --> 04:54:41,641
additional street

8505
04:54:41,641 --> 04:54:42,810
infrastructure, if we put them

8506
04:54:42,810 --> 04:54:44,110
in the right places where they

8507
04:54:44,110 --> 04:54:45,120
can be utilized.

8508
04:54:45,120 --> 04:54:47,120
>> absolutely, mayor.

8509
04:54:49,616 --> 04:54:51,618
This is something that we

8510
04:54:51,618 --> 04:54:54,880
started looking at in the summer

8511
04:54:54,880 --> 04:54:55,656
of 2019, the alignment where you

8512
04:54:55,656 --> 04:54:57,924
guys were approving an annual

8513
04:54:57,924 --> 04:54:59,626
budget, to your point, for a

8514
04:54:59,626 --> 04:55:00,994
number of projects, between 20

8515
04:55:00,994 --> 04:55:02,495
and $30 million, which are bond

8516
04:55:02,495 --> 04:55:03,663
projects, it's taken us two

8517
04:55:03,663 --> 04:55:05,765
years to spend the money.

8518
04:55:05,765 --> 04:55:09,236
So the concept here would be

8519
04:55:09,236 --> 04:55:12,390
that the $20 million in the bond

8520
04:55:12,390 --> 04:55:13,507
program would presumably be $20

8521
04:55:13,507 --> 04:55:13,841
million a year for the five

8522
04:55:13,841 --> 04:55:15,841
years.

8523
04:55:16,843 --> 04:55:19,680
So $100 million in the bond

8524
04:55:19,680 --> 04:55:21,715
program for dnf streets.

8525
04:55:21,715 --> 04:55:26,353
Kind of like we did -- kind of

8526
04:55:26,353 --> 04:55:27,321
like the council did in 2017 for

8527
04:55:27,321 --> 04:55:28,722
pedestrian mobility.

8528
04:55:28,722 --> 04:55:30,324
Just for dnf streets.

8529
04:55:30,324 --> 04:55:32,559
And so what would happen is if

8530
04:55:32,559 --> 04:55:37,359
we did that, it would have to go

8531
04:55:37,597 --> 04:55:39,533
hand in hand with the bond

8532
04:55:39,533 --> 04:55:41,933
conversations that the council

8533
04:55:44,238 --> 04:55:48,438
had, but if you did that, you

8534
04:55:49,297 --> 04:55:49,401
see the difference between 22

8535
04:55:49,401 --> 04:55:51,679
and 23, 71 to 51, that leaves

8536
04:55:51,679 --> 04:55:54,615
$20 million of capacity that we

8537
04:55:54,615 --> 04:55:57,151
could either do mobility type

8538
04:55:57,151 --> 04:55:59,151
projects, additional street

8539
04:55:59,286 --> 04:56:00,321
maintenance projects, or things

8540
04:56:00,321 --> 04:56:02,321
of that nature.

8541
04:56:03,490 --> 04:56:04,925
So it gives us capacity.

8542
04:56:04,925 --> 04:56:07,761
>> Mayor Nirenberg: what I would

8543
04:56:07,761 --> 04:56:10,630
like to propose for discussion,

8544
04:56:10,630 --> 04:56:11,365
I think, we're not appropriating

8545
04:56:11,365 --> 04:56:13,667
dollars that we're not going to

8546
04:56:13,667 --> 04:56:14,635
spend in the current fiscal year

8547
04:56:14,635 --> 04:56:16,470
budget, we should be putting

8548
04:56:16,470 --> 04:56:17,204
them into the bond program, if

8549
04:56:17,204 --> 04:56:19,204
they're reconstruction.

8550
04:56:21,309 --> 04:56:23,770
i would like to see us get it to

8551
04:56:23,770 --> 04:56:24,611
71, or whatever it is, for

8552
04:56:24,611 --> 04:56:27,110
certificates of obligation for

8553
04:56:27,681 --> 04:56:29,250
our transportation budget.

8554
04:56:29,250 --> 04:56:30,150
But earmark that to [Lapse in

8555
04:56:30,150 --> 04:56:32,550
audio] For vision zero.

8556
04:56:34,688 --> 04:56:36,524
So that we can on an annual

8557
04:56:36,524 --> 04:56:38,659
basis begin to do -- put our

8558
04:56:38,659 --> 04:56:39,260
money where our mouth is,

8559
04:56:39,260 --> 04:56:41,260
basically.

8560
04:56:41,262 --> 04:56:41,896
We can do sidewalk and other

8561
04:56:41,896 --> 04:56:44,296
pedestrian mobility projects as

8562
04:56:45,732 --> 04:56:48,132
well as bicycle infrastructure.

8563
04:56:49,360 --> 04:56:51,371
Which would be, I think, a huge

8564
04:56:51,371 --> 04:56:53,874
boost going into the bicycle

8565
04:56:53,874 --> 04:56:55,676
master plan, but also finally

8566
04:56:55,676 --> 04:56:56,477
put our resources into the

8567
04:56:56,477 --> 04:56:58,179
community building that we're

8568
04:56:58,179 --> 04:57:00,214
talking about, so that we don't

8569
04:57:00,214 --> 04:57:02,614
see more pedestrian fatalities,

8570
04:57:03,217 --> 04:57:03,650
and bicycle fatalities going

8571
04:57:03,650 --> 04:57:05,386
forward.

8572
04:57:05,386 --> 04:57:06,421
So I'd like to hear from my

8573
04:57:06,421 --> 04:57:07,688
colleagues on that.

8574
04:57:07,688 --> 04:57:10,157
I would suggest we keep the

8575
04:57:10,157 --> 04:57:11,559
level of annual funding coming

8576
04:57:11,559 --> 04:57:13,460
out of certificates of

8577
04:57:13,460 --> 04:57:16,970
obligations at the same level,

8578
04:57:16,970 --> 04:57:19,970
and earmark that difference for

8579
04:57:27,708 --> 04:57:27,975
vision zero on an annual basis.

8580
04:57:27,975 --> 04:57:29,975
All right.

8581
04:57:33,914 --> 04:57:35,449
>> I will start with the pci

8582
04:57:35,449 --> 04:57:36,617
score.

8583
04:57:36,617 --> 04:57:37,885
Do we have anything that rates

8584
04:57:37,885 --> 04:57:38,986
the sidewalks?

8585
04:57:38,986 --> 04:57:40,210
>> we do.

8586
04:57:40,210 --> 04:57:42,210
>> okay.

8587
04:57:42,590 --> 04:57:44,658
Because right now, district 3

8588
04:57:44,658 --> 04:57:46,194
has bad streets.

8589
04:57:46,194 --> 04:57:48,194
Our failing streets.

8590
04:57:49,930 --> 04:57:50,498
We have the largest sidewalk

8591
04:57:50,498 --> 04:57:52,498
gap.

8592
04:57:52,667 --> 04:57:52,900
We also have lots of drainage

8593
04:57:52,900 --> 04:57:54,735
issues.

8594
04:57:54,735 --> 04:57:58,472
When we look at bond projects, I

8595
04:57:58,472 --> 04:58:00,274
want to make sure we are digging

8596
04:58:00,274 --> 04:58:01,376
once, the best of the value, and

8597
04:58:01,376 --> 04:58:04,376
we get this done there.

8598
04:58:05,713 --> 04:58:05,947
We also have infrastructure

8599
04:58:05,947 --> 04:58:07,947
issues.

8600
04:58:09,617 --> 04:58:11,520
>> part of the 2017 bond, we had

8601
04:58:11,520 --> 04:58:13,587
two council districts that had

8602
04:58:13,587 --> 04:58:15,587
the maximum dollars.

8603
04:58:15,657 --> 04:58:18,570
District 3 had 9 million and

8604
04:58:18,659 --> 04:58:21,590
district 1 had 9 million also.

8605
04:58:21,528 --> 04:58:23,731
We have built over $8 million of

8606
04:58:23,731 --> 04:58:25,731
sidewalks in district 3.

8607
04:58:27,435 --> 04:58:28,350
We have done significant

8608
04:58:28,350 --> 04:58:30,271
sidewalk construction in the

8609
04:58:30,271 --> 04:58:31,639
last few years.

8610
04:58:31,639 --> 04:58:33,507
48 million.

8611
04:58:33,507 --> 04:58:34,809
And every year we get 5 million

8612
04:58:34,809 --> 04:58:36,444
through budget process.

8613
04:58:36,444 --> 04:58:38,120
>> I understand that.

8614
04:58:38,120 --> 04:58:39,714
But the district has been

8615
04:58:39,714 --> 04:58:39,947
waiting almost 40 years for

8616
04:58:39,947 --> 04:58:41,947
this.

8617
04:58:42,830 --> 04:58:43,318
So that's also one thing that I

8618
04:58:43,318 --> 04:58:46,318
want us to think about.

8619
04:58:46,988 --> 04:58:50,424
And I know that the homeowners

8620
04:58:50,424 --> 04:58:52,693
are responsible for the sidewalk

8621
04:58:52,693 --> 04:58:54,429
ordinance.

8622
04:58:54,429 --> 04:58:56,931
How is that sidewalk rebate

8623
04:58:56,931 --> 04:58:58,931
program working?

8624
04:59:01,236 --> 04:59:02,269
>> we have every year have the

8625
04:59:02,269 --> 04:59:04,669
property owner take advantage.

8626
04:59:05,807 --> 04:59:07,208
But since last year, we create

8627
04:59:07,208 --> 04:59:08,809
also sidewalk repair program,

8628
04:59:08,809 --> 04:59:11,790
and we have half million -- and

8629
04:59:11,790 --> 04:59:12,413
we are proposing to do the same

8630
04:59:12,413 --> 04:59:14,249
thing in 2022 also.

8631
04:59:14,249 --> 04:59:17,510
As we work with the council's

8632
04:59:17,510 --> 04:59:19,860
office, and we know those

8633
04:59:19,860 --> 04:59:21,590
locations, we go over there and

8634
04:59:21,590 --> 04:59:21,856
replace the damaged concrete

8635
04:59:21,856 --> 04:59:23,324
sidewalk.

8636
04:59:23,324 --> 04:59:25,324
>> okay.

8637
04:59:25,860 --> 04:59:27,695
And those are kind of -- and

8638
04:59:27,695 --> 04:59:30,398
then when we look at the bond,

8639
04:59:30,398 --> 04:59:32,233
as the mayor has instructed, we

8640
04:59:32,233 --> 04:59:32,467
just look at streamlining this

8641
04:59:32,467 --> 04:59:34,350
process.

8642
04:59:34,350 --> 04:59:36,604
And I'd like -- I have a couple

8643
04:59:36,604 --> 04:59:39,400
of questions on the

8644
04:59:41,243 --> 04:59:43,243
transportation mobility.

8645
04:59:43,978 --> 04:59:45,913
So, can we have an -- I'll do a

8646
04:59:45,913 --> 04:59:46,247
town hall on how you guys

8647
04:59:46,247 --> 04:59:48,247
present.

8648
04:59:50,552 --> 04:59:51,719
If we could have a dollar amount

8649
04:59:51,719 --> 04:59:54,719
for crosswalks, and very similar

8650
04:59:55,489 --> 04:59:55,724
to the one we did [Lapse in

8651
04:59:55,724 --> 04:59:57,425
audio].

8652
04:59:57,425 --> 04:59:59,961
Because I know that for business

8653
04:59:59,961 --> 05:00:02,361
owners and community leaders,

8654
05:00:02,496 --> 05:00:04,933
that [Lapse in audio] Willing to

8655
05:00:04,933 --> 05:00:05,767
kind of come into

8656
05:00:05,767 --> 05:00:06,000
publish/private to raise those

8657
05:00:06,000 --> 05:00:07,301
funds.

8658
05:00:07,301 --> 05:00:08,636
If we could get that.

8659
05:00:08,636 --> 05:00:11,206
And the other thing is, the

8660
05:00:11,206 --> 05:00:14,206
requirements for the speed bumps

8661
05:00:14,309 --> 05:00:17,909
in areas with parks and schools

8662
05:00:17,912 --> 05:00:19,680
and things like that done.

8663
05:00:19,680 --> 05:00:21,182
And the other thing I want to

8664
05:00:21,182 --> 05:00:23,418
address is our current bike

8665
05:00:23,418 --> 05:00:25,418
lanes in district 3.

8666
05:00:27,489 --> 05:00:29,357
We still have the issues of

8667
05:00:29,357 --> 05:00:30,658
residents parking in [Lapse in

8668
05:00:30,658 --> 05:00:32,494
audio] Lanes.

8669
05:00:32,494 --> 05:00:35,197
I understand after-hours, but is

8670
05:00:35,197 --> 05:00:37,699
there any way we can address

8671
05:00:37,699 --> 05:00:39,367
that with either maybe not sapd

8672
05:00:39,367 --> 05:00:41,302
doing the work, but maybe having

8673
05:00:41,302 --> 05:00:43,671
a parking enforcement going out

8674
05:00:43,671 --> 05:00:46,671
into getting these people that

8675
05:00:49,177 --> 05:00:49,610
stay well past that time on the

8676
05:00:49,610 --> 05:00:51,610
bike lanes?

8677
05:00:51,680 --> 05:00:52,914
Because we have them, but they

8678
05:00:52,914 --> 05:00:53,615
can't be used because there's

8679
05:00:53,615 --> 05:00:55,450
cars there.

8680
05:00:55,450 --> 05:00:55,784
So if we could get that done.

8681
05:00:55,784 --> 05:00:56,718
Thank you.

8682
05:00:56,718 --> 05:00:59,118
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

8683
05:00:59,254 --> 05:01:01,254
councilmember viagran.

8684
05:01:01,890 --> 05:01:03,659
Councilmember cabello havrda.

8685
05:01:03,659 --> 05:01:06,590
>> Cabello Havrda: thank you,

8686
05:01:07,195 --> 05:01:09,195
mayor.

8687
05:01:10,398 --> 05:01:11,199
This is my number one focus,

8688
05:01:11,199 --> 05:01:11,466
maintenance of streets and

8689
05:01:11,466 --> 05:01:13,301
sidewalks.

8690
05:01:13,301 --> 05:01:14,970
Our citizens are demanding that

8691
05:01:14,970 --> 05:01:15,136
focus, so I'm happy to provide

8692
05:01:15,136 --> 05:01:16,872
it.

8693
05:01:16,872 --> 05:01:19,674
Not just for our vehicles, but

8694
05:01:19,674 --> 05:01:22,740
our pedestrian improvements and

8695
05:01:23,411 --> 05:01:25,811
for cyclists, both recreational

8696
05:01:27,349 --> 05:01:29,651
and utilities to get to work.

8697
05:01:29,651 --> 05:01:31,319
I agree with earmarking the 20

8698
05:01:31,319 --> 05:01:34,319
million for the vision zero

8699
05:01:36,492 --> 05:01:38,894
projects to make sure we're

8700
05:01:38,894 --> 05:01:39,794
[Lapse in audio] And bike

8701
05:01:39,794 --> 05:01:41,794
improvements.

8702
05:01:42,631 --> 05:01:43,632
And the update -- actually, I do

8703
05:01:43,632 --> 05:01:46,670
have a question about the city's

8704
05:01:46,670 --> 05:01:46,635
bike plan.

8705
05:01:46,635 --> 05:01:49,350
You mentioned, tomika, you

8706
05:01:50,972 --> 05:01:51,640
mentioned putting out a city

8707
05:01:51,640 --> 05:01:52,874
survey.

8708
05:01:52,874 --> 05:01:56,474
Are you planning on meeting with

8709
05:01:58,213 --> 05:01:58,446
any of the groups, the advocacy

8710
05:01:58,446 --> 05:01:58,981
groups?

8711
05:01:58,981 --> 05:02:00,215
>> yes, ma'am.

8712
05:02:00,215 --> 05:02:01,820
Our goal is to meet with

8713
05:02:01,820 --> 05:02:02,951
everyone.

8714
05:02:02,951 --> 05:02:05,154
It will be a combination of --

8715
05:02:05,154 --> 05:02:06,789
when I first came here, one of

8716
05:02:06,789 --> 05:02:08,557
the things I would love to do

8717
05:02:08,557 --> 05:02:12,494
with each of you is do a walking

8718
05:02:12,494 --> 05:02:13,796
tour to just experience with

8719
05:02:13,796 --> 05:02:15,664
your constituents of what they

8720
05:02:15,664 --> 05:02:17,166
experience when you walk down a

8721
05:02:17,166 --> 05:02:17,766
street with sidewalks, bike

8722
05:02:17,766 --> 05:02:19,766
lanes throughout.

8723
05:02:20,100 --> 05:02:21,637
Part of our job is to educate

8724
05:02:21,637 --> 05:02:23,772
you guys about the things we

8725
05:02:23,772 --> 05:02:24,720
have to consider and the things

8726
05:02:24,720 --> 05:02:26,720
we look at.

8727
05:02:26,675 --> 05:02:30,875
And that would be the right way

8728
05:02:32,915 --> 05:02:34,650
for us to [Lapse in audio]

8729
05:02:34,650 --> 05:02:35,484
Significant component is the

8730
05:02:35,484 --> 05:02:36,285
survey.

8731
05:02:36,285 --> 05:02:38,787
Because we just don't know.

8732
05:02:38,787 --> 05:02:40,455
We had a number of cycling

8733
05:02:40,455 --> 05:02:42,900
advocates here in the room, but

8734
05:02:42,900 --> 05:02:43,659
those are the people who can

8735
05:02:43,659 --> 05:02:45,961
afford to come off work and come

8736
05:02:45,961 --> 05:02:47,562
in here and advocate.

8737
05:02:47,562 --> 05:02:49,631
But what do we know about those

8738
05:02:49,631 --> 05:02:51,660
people who use bikes to get to

8739
05:02:51,660 --> 05:02:51,299
work, because that's their only

8740
05:02:51,299 --> 05:02:53,299
option.

8741
05:02:53,902 --> 05:02:55,700
So doing an annual citywide

8742
05:02:55,700 --> 05:02:55,971
survey will enable us to

8743
05:02:55,971 --> 05:02:57,873
establish a baseline.

8744
05:02:57,873 --> 05:02:58,807
Because we really don't have a

8745
05:02:58,807 --> 05:03:00,876
baseline, because we have not

8746
05:03:00,876 --> 05:03:02,544
specifically focused on

8747
05:03:02,544 --> 05:03:02,944
surveying people related to

8748
05:03:02,944 --> 05:03:04,944
bicycles.

8749
05:03:06,248 --> 05:03:09,751
So the first part is to develop

8750
05:03:09,751 --> 05:03:13,880
a survey, and you were a part of

8751
05:03:13,880 --> 05:03:15,557
it on monday, carlo spoke about

8752
05:03:15,557 --> 05:03:17,292
the surveying and surveying,

8753
05:03:17,292 --> 05:03:18,627
asking the right questions about

8754
05:03:18,627 --> 05:03:20,950
cycling, because that is going

8755
05:03:20,950 --> 05:03:20,562
to inform us when we get the

8756
05:03:20,562 --> 05:03:22,465
data.

8757
05:03:22,465 --> 05:03:25,000
So the data related to the

8758
05:03:25,000 --> 05:03:26,935
actual infrastructure that we

8759
05:03:26,935 --> 05:03:29,304
have, and normalizing both the

8760
05:03:29,304 --> 05:03:31,600
data from our constituents and

8761
05:03:31,600 --> 05:03:32,975
also from those people who

8762
05:03:32,975 --> 05:03:34,476
currently use the system, and

8763
05:03:34,476 --> 05:03:36,211
learning why people don't use

8764
05:03:36,211 --> 05:03:38,714
the system, and taking a look at

8765
05:03:38,714 --> 05:03:40,490
our actual infrastructure.

8766
05:03:40,490 --> 05:03:40,716
So in addition to that, doing

8767
05:03:40,716 --> 05:03:42,716
focus groups.

8768
05:03:43,886 --> 05:03:45,254
As we focus on IMPs for this

8769
05:03:45,254 --> 05:03:46,688
school year, we're going to be

8770
05:03:46,688 --> 05:03:46,988
asking people to share their

8771
05:03:46,988 --> 05:03:48,988
experiences.

8772
05:03:49,225 --> 05:03:49,691
We're going to be doing pop-ups,

8773
05:03:49,691 --> 05:03:51,260
you know.

8774
05:03:51,260 --> 05:03:52,260
Wherever we have the

8775
05:03:52,260 --> 05:03:53,963
opportunity, fiesta, we'll have

8776
05:03:53,963 --> 05:03:56,999
a table to say, hey, what do you

8777
05:03:56,999 --> 05:03:58,134
think about this, do you even

8778
05:03:58,134 --> 05:03:59,602
ride a bike right now.

8779
05:03:59,602 --> 05:03:59,769
That's going to be critical for

8780
05:03:59,769 --> 05:04:01,303
us.

8781
05:04:01,303 --> 05:04:03,205
We just don't have the data.

8782
05:04:03,205 --> 05:04:04,373
And you are a part of this

8783
05:04:04,373 --> 05:04:06,108
discussion on monday, but one of

8784
05:04:06,108 --> 05:04:08,677
the questions is, why can't we

8785
05:04:08,677 --> 05:04:10,313
just say we're going to have 50

8786
05:04:10,313 --> 05:04:12,381
miles of bike lanes next year.

8787
05:04:12,381 --> 05:04:13,282
Because we don't know how many

8788
05:04:13,282 --> 05:04:13,882
miles of bike lanes we have

8789
05:04:13,882 --> 05:04:15,882
right now.

8790
05:04:16,118 --> 05:04:18,153
We don't know the width of all

8791
05:04:18,153 --> 05:04:19,722
of our roadways because our

8792
05:04:19,722 --> 05:04:21,423
roadways are unique in that it

8793
05:04:21,423 --> 05:04:23,859
might be 32 feet in the part

8794
05:04:23,859 --> 05:04:27,196
downtown and by the time you get

8795
05:04:27,196 --> 05:04:28,564
into the suburban parts of the

8796
05:04:28,564 --> 05:04:29,531
city, they're 1

8797
05:04:29,531 --> 05:04:31,531
20 feet.

8798
05:04:33,302 --> 05:04:34,704
So we have to do the analysis,

8799
05:04:34,704 --> 05:04:37,704
what type of infrastructure is

8800
05:04:37,873 --> 05:04:39,809
there, and then what is the

8801
05:04:39,809 --> 05:04:40,676
implementation and plan to get

8802
05:04:40,676 --> 05:04:42,676
the infrastructure there.

8803
05:04:43,790 --> 05:04:45,810
>> I agree that we need to know

8804
05:04:45,810 --> 05:04:45,414
what we've got before we can

8805
05:04:45,414 --> 05:04:47,490
expand.

8806
05:04:47,490 --> 05:04:47,449
But I do like the idea of a

8807
05:04:47,449 --> 05:04:49,449
goal.

8808
05:04:49,852 --> 05:04:51,687
Once we have what we know, you

8809
05:04:51,687 --> 05:04:54,687
know, this number, or this

8810
05:04:56,392 --> 05:04:57,460
mileage of bike lanes, that we

8811
05:04:57,460 --> 05:05:00,460
continue to expand, have metrics

8812
05:05:01,497 --> 05:05:01,797
in order to use the funding,

8813
05:05:01,797 --> 05:05:02,640
targeted it.

8814
05:05:02,640 --> 05:05:03,499
>> right.

8815
05:05:03,499 --> 05:05:04,734
We have enough information now

8816
05:05:04,734 --> 05:05:06,680
about the vision zero.

8817
05:05:06,680 --> 05:05:06,368
Where we're seeing the

8818
05:05:06,368 --> 05:05:08,103
fatalities.

8819
05:05:08,103 --> 05:05:08,805
So those are our priorities

8820
05:05:08,805 --> 05:05:10,805
right now.

8821
05:05:15,377 --> 05:05:17,380
And I think, you know, chicago

8822
05:05:17,380 --> 05:05:18,647
[Lapse in audio] Developed

8823
05:05:18,647 --> 05:05:19,348
mellow lanes, [Lapse in audio]

8824
05:05:19,348 --> 05:05:21,348
Lanes.

8825
05:05:21,617 --> 05:05:23,850
The focus this year is just to

8826
05:05:23,850 --> 05:05:24,220
develop that safe network and

8827
05:05:24,220 --> 05:05:24,520
that's what we're doing right

8828
05:05:24,520 --> 05:05:26,520
now.

8829
05:05:26,556 --> 05:05:28,358
That's the goal, is just a safe,

8830
05:05:28,358 --> 05:05:30,758
slow network, low-stress network

8831
05:05:31,260 --> 05:05:32,928
with the imp that we have.

8832
05:05:32,928 --> 05:05:35,980
The plan is going to give us the

8833
05:05:35,980 --> 05:05:36,465
data in order to develop the

8834
05:05:36,465 --> 05:05:38,167
part of the plan, that's why

8835
05:05:38,167 --> 05:05:40,336
it's the cost that we

8836
05:05:40,336 --> 05:05:43,720
anticipate, is because that is

8837
05:05:43,720 --> 05:05:43,673
going to include an

8838
05:05:43,673 --> 05:05:45,400
implementation component to

8839
05:05:45,400 --> 05:05:47,400
start implementing.

8840
05:05:48,244 --> 05:05:51,147
If we're successful in the 20

8841
05:05:51,147 --> 05:05:54,583
million, for vision zero, we can

8842
05:05:54,583 --> 05:05:56,952
say, our plan, 20 million, this

8843
05:05:56,952 --> 05:05:57,953
is the first project out of the

8844
05:05:57,953 --> 05:05:58,421
bike update.

8845
05:05:58,421 --> 05:06:00,421
That's the goal.

8846
05:06:01,590 --> 05:06:04,590
We do have strategic performance

8847
05:06:05,461 --> 05:06:05,695
metrics as a part of the budget

8848
05:06:05,695 --> 05:06:07,695
process.

8849
05:06:08,931 --> 05:06:11,601
And we are saying we would do.5

8850
05:06:11,601 --> 05:06:14,103
miles of new bike infrastructure

8851
05:06:14,103 --> 05:06:16,103
this fiscal year.

8852
05:06:17,607 --> 05:06:21,210
And we will have up to nine

8853
05:06:21,210 --> 05:06:22,745
miles of refurbished bike lanes,

8854
05:06:22,745 --> 05:06:25,882
based on the data we have today.

8855
05:06:25,882 --> 05:06:27,617
We're not going to -- we can't

8856
05:06:27,617 --> 05:06:31,540
say we're going to do 50 miles,

8857
05:06:31,540 --> 05:06:32,955
but we do have performance

8858
05:06:32,955 --> 05:06:33,856
metrics and that will continue.

8859
05:06:33,856 --> 05:06:36,256
>> Cabello Havrda: thank you.

8860
05:06:36,559 --> 05:06:39,396
And also the user of the bike

8861
05:06:39,396 --> 05:06:40,596
utility, not so much recreation,

8862
05:06:40,596 --> 05:06:42,132
I would encourage what we talked

8863
05:06:42,132 --> 05:06:43,365
about earlier, having paper

8864
05:06:43,365 --> 05:06:45,201
surveys in the libraries.

8865
05:06:45,201 --> 05:06:46,735
I don't even know if you can go

8866
05:06:46,735 --> 05:06:48,138
out to the players where they

8867
05:06:48,138 --> 05:06:49,806
have a high percentage of people

8868
05:06:49,806 --> 05:06:53,406
that ride their bikes or ride

8869
05:06:54,243 --> 05:06:54,443
their bikes to the bus to get to

8870
05:06:54,443 --> 05:06:55,100
work.

8871
05:06:55,100 --> 05:06:57,513
So I think that's important.

8872
05:06:57,513 --> 05:07:01,113
Also, are the hike and bike

8873
05:07:01,384 --> 05:07:02,852
trails [Lapse in audio].

8874
05:07:02,852 --> 05:07:04,852
>> yes.

8875
05:07:05,355 --> 05:07:08,955
So, that is something homer and

8876
05:07:12,562 --> 05:07:14,597
I are super-duper excited about.

8877
05:07:14,597 --> 05:07:16,597
(Indiscernible).

8878
05:07:18,134 --> 05:07:20,837
The reality is, we have been

8879
05:07:20,837 --> 05:07:21,805
oozing out a lot of money in

8880
05:07:21,805 --> 05:07:23,673
terms of our [Lapse in audio] To

8881
05:07:23,673 --> 05:07:25,341
get more funding for the howard

8882
05:07:25,341 --> 05:07:27,341
p. Greenway system.

8883
05:07:28,278 --> 05:07:29,379
We only categorize it as a park

8884
05:07:29,379 --> 05:07:31,379
and recreation asset.

8885
05:07:32,810 --> 05:07:34,250
It is a transportation asset.

8886
05:07:34,250 --> 05:07:36,520
And so a huge element of the

8887
05:07:36,520 --> 05:07:38,421
bike master plan update is

8888
05:07:38,421 --> 05:07:39,856
putting that in there as our

8889
05:07:39,856 --> 05:07:41,856
bike network.

8890
05:07:42,291 --> 05:07:43,993
The next step for us, what homer

8891
05:07:43,993 --> 05:07:46,429
and I will be working on this

8892
05:07:46,429 --> 05:07:50,290
summer, is getting the howard p.

8893
05:07:50,333 --> 05:07:50,900
Trail system in the tip, in the

8894
05:07:50,900 --> 05:07:51,133
transportation improvement

8895
05:07:51,133 --> 05:07:53,133
program.

8896
05:07:53,970 --> 05:07:55,572
When there are discretionary

8897
05:07:55,572 --> 05:07:57,972
opportunities with the PRESIDENT

8898
05:07:58,508 --> 05:07:59,676
And congress agreeing on this

8899
05:07:59,676 --> 05:08:00,710
infrastructure plan is really

8900
05:08:00,710 --> 05:08:03,479
huge, because now we have the

8901
05:08:03,479 --> 05:08:05,515
opportunity to compete for funds

8902
05:08:05,515 --> 05:08:06,816
to complete components of that.

8903
05:08:06,816 --> 05:08:08,384
And we're currently working on a

8904
05:08:08,384 --> 05:08:09,519
grant application to start that

8905
05:08:09,519 --> 05:08:11,919
procession, if you will.

8906
05:08:12,288 --> 05:08:13,990
So that's going to be critical.

8907
05:08:13,990 --> 05:08:14,992
Those miles add to our

8908
05:08:14,992 --> 05:08:16,560
congestion mitigation, and air

8909
05:08:16,560 --> 05:08:17,627
quality improvements for the

8910
05:08:17,627 --> 05:08:19,195
region.

8911
05:08:19,195 --> 05:08:20,330
So it's all connected, and

8912
05:08:20,330 --> 05:08:20,897
that's something we're really

8913
05:08:20,897 --> 05:08:21,697
excited about.

8914
05:08:21,697 --> 05:08:23,299
>> Cabello Havrda: that is

8915
05:08:23,299 --> 05:08:24,768
exactly what I was thinking.

8916
05:08:24,768 --> 05:08:26,235
It is connected.

8917
05:08:26,235 --> 05:08:27,403
Talking about hiking and bike

8918
05:08:27,403 --> 05:08:29,803
trails is talking about

8919
05:08:30,173 --> 05:08:30,473
transportation.

8920
05:08:30,473 --> 05:08:31,107
>> correct.

8921
05:08:31,107 --> 05:08:31,508
>> Cabello Havrda: so that's all

8922
05:08:31,508 --> 05:08:32,308
I had.

8923
05:08:32,308 --> 05:08:33,643
Thank you.

8924
05:08:33,643 --> 05:08:34,244
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

8925
05:08:34,244 --> 05:08:35,745
councilmember cabello havrda.

8926
05:08:35,745 --> 05:08:37,714
Before we go to manny, do you

8927
05:08:37,714 --> 05:08:38,147
want to talk about the raci

8928
05:08:38,147 --> 05:08:40,147
grant?

8929
05:08:40,917 --> 05:08:42,151
>> you just mentioned it.

8930
05:08:42,151 --> 05:08:44,870
Let's take two steps back,

8931
05:08:44,870 --> 05:08:47,870
because I think that's really

8932
05:08:47,390 --> 05:08:48,925
important work that you and

8933
05:08:48,925 --> 05:08:51,661
others are doing with the

8934
05:08:51,661 --> 05:08:54,661
county, public works, homer, the

8935
05:08:56,232 --> 05:08:56,433
river authority on the raci

8936
05:08:56,433 --> 05:08:57,100
grant.

8937
05:08:57,100 --> 05:08:58,835
That's a big opportunity.

8938
05:08:58,835 --> 05:08:59,536
Can you give the council two

8939
05:08:59,536 --> 05:09:00,503
minutes on that?

8940
05:09:00,503 --> 05:09:02,503
Because that's important.

8941
05:09:02,606 --> 05:09:03,873
>> because we have an

8942
05:09:03,873 --> 05:09:06,873
opportunity -- the raise grant

8943
05:09:09,712 --> 05:09:12,112
is a federal discretionary

8944
05:09:12,215 --> 05:09:14,215
department of transportation,

8945
05:09:15,218 --> 05:09:16,719
eligible up to $100 million.

8946
05:09:16,719 --> 05:09:19,719
We've come together, the san

8947
05:09:19,822 --> 05:09:21,257
antonio river authority, parks,

8948
05:09:21,257 --> 05:09:23,600
transportation, a lot of our

8949
05:09:23,600 --> 05:09:25,460
city departments are working

8950
05:09:26,396 --> 05:09:28,432
together with the county to

8951
05:09:28,432 --> 05:09:31,432
complete that section of the

8952
05:09:31,668 --> 05:09:34,668
trail, the creek section, from

8953
05:09:39,109 --> 05:09:42,109
via, the ingram transit center,

8954
05:09:44,130 --> 05:09:45,281
and the restoration project.

8955
05:09:45,281 --> 05:09:46,550
This approximately nine-mile

8956
05:09:46,550 --> 05:09:48,919
stretch we'll be applying for

8957
05:09:48,919 --> 05:09:50,620
funds on that segment.

8958
05:09:50,620 --> 05:09:54,391
It is an area of poverty, it

8959
05:09:54,391 --> 05:09:55,693
speaks to all of the criteria of

8960
05:09:55,693 --> 05:09:58,195
the raise grant application, and

8961
05:09:58,195 --> 05:10:00,297
it begins to address a lot of

8962
05:10:00,297 --> 05:10:01,631
safety concerns on ingram that

8963
05:10:01,631 --> 05:10:03,533
we have with regard to

8964
05:10:03,533 --> 05:10:05,933
developing a multi-use section

8965
05:10:05,969 --> 05:10:07,838
of the trail there, and this is

8966
05:10:07,838 --> 05:10:09,839
going to speak to what the

8967
05:10:09,839 --> 05:10:11,175
COUNCILWOMAN Talked about, the

8968
05:10:11,175 --> 05:10:12,475
connectivity of this system

8969
05:10:12,475 --> 05:10:14,875
being a transportation network,

8970
05:10:14,877 --> 05:10:15,178
and not just parks and

8971
05:10:15,178 --> 05:10:16,813
recreation.

8972
05:10:16,813 --> 05:10:18,849
So we're leveraging all the

8973
05:10:18,849 --> 05:10:20,751
investments of the county, that

8974
05:10:20,751 --> 05:10:22,586
sara had made, and hopefully

8975
05:10:22,586 --> 05:10:23,586
we'll be successful with this

8976
05:10:23,586 --> 05:10:24,821
application.

8977
05:10:24,821 --> 05:10:26,423
And it's due JULY 12th.

8978
05:10:26,423 --> 05:10:27,657
But the east coast greenway, if

8979
05:10:27,657 --> 05:10:28,491
you have the opportunity, take a

8980
05:10:28,491 --> 05:10:30,491
look at that.

8981
05:10:33,530 --> 05:10:34,164
Take a look at the

8982
05:10:34,164 --> 05:10:35,199
washington-to-washington, D.C.

8983
05:10:35,199 --> 05:10:37,199
Rails to trails.

8984
05:10:37,434 --> 05:10:40,700
These systems that are hundreds

8985
05:10:40,700 --> 05:10:40,537
of miles, this greenway is 800

8986
05:10:40,537 --> 05:10:42,439
miles.

8987
05:10:42,439 --> 05:10:43,440
They've been successful with

8988
05:10:43,440 --> 05:10:45,142
three types of grants over the

8989
05:10:45,142 --> 05:10:47,142
past administrations.

8990
05:10:47,144 --> 05:10:48,878
So we want to put our hat in the

8991
05:10:48,878 --> 05:10:52,249
ring to compete for these funds

8992
05:10:52,249 --> 05:10:53,950
and get this network completed.

8993
05:10:53,950 --> 05:10:55,686
>> Mayor Nirenberg: all right.

8994
05:10:55,686 --> 05:10:56,353
Councilmember pelaez.

8995
05:10:56,353 --> 05:10:58,353
>> Pelaez: thank you.

8996
05:10:58,755 --> 05:11:02,955
In JUNE, each of you will be

8997
05:11:03,259 --> 05:11:05,695
receiving a copy of a book, and

8998
05:11:05,695 --> 05:11:06,964
tomika, you got your copy, and

8999
05:11:06,964 --> 05:11:09,330
mayor, we delivered yours

9000
05:11:09,330 --> 05:11:11,433
yesterday, called metro green,

9001
05:11:11,868 --> 05:11:13,636
which proves out the idea that

9002
05:11:13,636 --> 05:11:15,339
investment in green space, and

9003
05:11:15,339 --> 05:11:17,307
having those green spaces be a

9004
05:11:17,307 --> 05:11:20,477
part of the connectivity plan in

9005
05:11:20,477 --> 05:11:22,120
a city, has a direct

9006
05:11:22,120 --> 05:11:23,547
relationship to more and higher

9007
05:11:23,547 --> 05:11:25,547
quality economic development.

9008
05:11:25,582 --> 05:11:26,516
And so this is not just a

9009
05:11:26,516 --> 05:11:28,916
mobility issue that we're

9010
05:11:31,121 --> 05:11:34,721
talking about, this is jobs and,

9011
05:11:34,725 --> 05:11:35,725
you know, tax base and all the

9012
05:11:35,725 --> 05:11:37,861
things that come with that kind

9013
05:11:37,861 --> 05:11:39,861
of investment.

9014
05:11:42,399 --> 05:11:45,999
So I do think it's important,

9015
05:11:46,137 --> 05:11:49,600
that that $71.2 million, and the

9016
05:11:49,600 --> 05:11:51,406
$51.2 million, is only possible

9017
05:11:54,440 --> 05:11:55,679
because of (Indiscernible)'s

9018
05:11:55,679 --> 05:11:57,481
fist fight he had up in austin

9019
05:11:57,481 --> 05:11:58,982
on our behalf, and jeff coyle

9020
05:11:58,982 --> 05:12:01,685
and our team stood up there to

9021
05:12:01,685 --> 05:12:03,530
make sure that the governor and

9022
05:12:03,530 --> 05:12:05,560
his friends didn't take away our

9023
05:12:05,560 --> 05:12:07,158
ability to, you know, to issue

9024
05:12:07,158 --> 05:12:07,658
these certificates of

9025
05:12:07,658 --> 05:12:09,658
obligation.

9026
05:12:11,829 --> 05:12:13,397
So the important -- that's the

9027
05:12:13,397 --> 05:12:15,766
highlight, how important it is

9028
05:12:15,766 --> 05:12:18,669
to work up in austin, folks.

9029
05:12:18,669 --> 05:12:20,103
It's equally important, tomika,

9030
05:12:20,103 --> 05:12:22,239
I think you'll agree, that we

9031
05:12:22,239 --> 05:12:25,275
press the gas pedal on all of

9032
05:12:25,275 --> 05:12:27,377
our government relations work in

9033
05:12:27,377 --> 05:12:30,181
D.C., so that we can bring home

9034
05:12:30,181 --> 05:12:33,181
things like these raised grants,

9035
05:12:33,283 --> 05:12:34,251
and continue to make these

9036
05:12:34,251 --> 05:12:36,251
investments.

9037
05:12:36,520 --> 05:12:38,622
Mayor, I support the idea to

9038
05:12:38,622 --> 05:12:40,624
free up these funds so we can

9039
05:12:40,624 --> 05:12:42,660
invest it in vision zero.

9040
05:12:42,660 --> 05:12:43,493
We talk a lot about safe streets

9041
05:12:43,493 --> 05:12:45,893
and conditions of streets.

9042
05:12:46,430 --> 05:12:48,432
But really, those are -- we're

9043
05:12:48,432 --> 05:12:50,670
taking care of people's cars,

9044
05:12:50,670 --> 05:12:52,303
and in this instance, when we

9045
05:12:52,303 --> 05:12:54,710
talk about sidewalks, and

9046
05:12:54,710 --> 05:12:55,273
crosswalks, and bike lanes,

9047
05:12:55,273 --> 05:12:56,440
making sure that people get home

9048
05:12:56,440 --> 05:12:58,840
to their loved ones.

9049
05:13:00,577 --> 05:13:03,280
We need to prioritize, you know,

9050
05:13:03,280 --> 05:13:06,830
people not having a blownout

9051
05:13:06,830 --> 05:13:06,283
tire or having a bumpy ride

9052
05:13:06,283 --> 05:13:08,283
home.

9053
05:13:11,689 --> 05:13:13,858
You know, with some energy,

9054
05:13:13,858 --> 05:13:15,993
because it's urgent, but also

9055
05:13:15,993 --> 05:13:17,295
making sure that DR.

9056
05:13:17,295 --> 05:13:19,695
DR. (Indiscernible) And his

9057
05:13:20,131 --> 05:13:21,866
family is able to at least look

9058
05:13:21,866 --> 05:13:24,835
at tomorrow and say, okay, they

9059
05:13:24,835 --> 05:13:26,336
took it seriously, right?

9060
05:13:26,336 --> 05:13:29,336
And that those tragedies mean

9061
05:13:29,540 --> 05:13:31,275
something as opposed to just

9062
05:13:31,275 --> 05:13:32,910
continuing to just be one more

9063
05:13:32,910 --> 05:13:34,910
newspaper article that

9064
05:13:35,680 --> 05:13:36,813
frustrates us, until the next

9065
05:13:36,813 --> 05:13:37,582
death.

9066
05:13:37,582 --> 05:13:39,349
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

9067
05:13:39,349 --> 05:13:40,351
councilmember pelaez.

9068
05:13:40,351 --> 05:13:42,351
Councilmember perry.

9069
05:13:44,655 --> 05:13:47,550
>> Perry: thank you, sir.

9070
05:13:48,359 --> 05:13:49,293
Tomika, I'm glad to hear about

9071
05:13:49,293 --> 05:13:51,293
gathering data.

9072
05:13:52,163 --> 05:13:54,163
That's very important.

9073
05:13:54,698 --> 05:13:56,133
And you know what my datapoint

9074
05:13:56,133 --> 05:13:57,902
is, we spend the money to put

9075
05:13:57,902 --> 05:13:58,870
these in, where people actually

9076
05:13:58,870 --> 05:14:00,671
use them.

9077
05:14:00,671 --> 05:14:02,407
And where they're being used,

9078
05:14:02,407 --> 05:14:03,140
and where they're not being

9079
05:14:03,140 --> 05:14:04,509
used.

9080
05:14:04,509 --> 05:14:06,878
To make sure that they're

9081
05:14:06,878 --> 05:14:08,460
putting them in the right place.

9082
05:14:08,460 --> 05:14:08,646
I'm very interested in seeing

9083
05:14:08,646 --> 05:14:10,646
that.

9084
05:14:10,748 --> 05:14:11,916
>> I know you love data.

9085
05:14:11,916 --> 05:14:14,618
I know you love data.

9086
05:14:14,618 --> 05:14:16,354
So one of the tools in our tool

9087
05:14:16,354 --> 05:14:19,256
kit is called street light data.

9088
05:14:19,256 --> 05:14:20,825
So when we put this rfp out for

9089
05:14:20,825 --> 05:14:23,661
the bike master plan update,

9090
05:14:23,661 --> 05:14:24,962
we're going to be looking for

9091
05:14:24,962 --> 05:14:27,640
those proposals that speak to

9092
05:14:27,640 --> 05:14:27,665
the technology that are out here

9093
05:14:27,665 --> 05:14:29,665
today.

9094
05:14:29,833 --> 05:14:34,330
So site data, street light is a

9095
05:14:34,405 --> 05:14:38,500
company that uses a lot of

9096
05:14:38,760 --> 05:14:41,120
information related to phone and

9097
05:14:41,120 --> 05:14:42,460
air sage data is data we see on

9098
05:14:42,460 --> 05:14:44,460
your phone.

9099
05:14:44,115 --> 05:14:45,650
It's taking an intensive effort

9100
05:14:45,650 --> 05:14:47,619
in terms of identifying the

9101
05:14:47,619 --> 05:14:48,886
locations where people are using

9102
05:14:48,886 --> 05:14:50,355
facilities, but most importantly

9103
05:14:50,355 --> 05:14:51,689
we don't typically collect the

9104
05:14:51,689 --> 05:14:54,559
data like we do with our

9105
05:14:54,559 --> 05:14:54,893
transportation network, which is

9106
05:14:54,893 --> 05:14:56,660
autooriented.

9107
05:14:56,660 --> 05:14:59,130
So we're going to be looking for

9108
05:14:59,130 --> 05:15:00,732
those proposals that use street

9109
05:15:00,732 --> 05:15:02,800
lights, sage data, doing

9110
05:15:02,800 --> 05:15:03,834
intercept surveys, because you

9111
05:15:03,834 --> 05:15:04,402
have to capture people where

9112
05:15:04,402 --> 05:15:06,402
they are.

9113
05:15:07,438 --> 05:15:09,507
But really, based for me in the

9114
05:15:09,507 --> 05:15:11,420
part of the city such as your

9115
05:15:11,420 --> 05:15:13,912
district is that we don't know

9116
05:15:13,912 --> 05:15:15,120
people's proclivity to ride in

9117
05:15:15,120 --> 05:15:17,120
the suburban areas.

9118
05:15:17,415 --> 05:15:18,716
We don't know if they would ride

9119
05:15:18,716 --> 05:15:19,116
if there was infrastructure

9120
05:15:19,116 --> 05:15:21,116
there.

9121
05:15:22,587 --> 05:15:26,187
So doing the citywide survey is

9122
05:15:26,257 --> 05:15:29,260
going to help us -- really, it

9123
05:15:29,260 --> 05:15:31,660
helps our performance in

9124
05:15:33,341 --> 05:15:33,472
educating people of bike

9125
05:15:33,472 --> 05:15:33,931
lifestyle, and bike

9126
05:15:33,931 --> 05:15:34,232
infrastructure, and services and

9127
05:15:34,232 --> 05:15:36,232
facilities.

9128
05:15:36,534 --> 05:15:39,637
But it's also going to educate

9129
05:15:39,637 --> 05:15:40,906
us on what people want, if they

9130
05:15:40,906 --> 05:15:41,773
had these types of facilities in

9131
05:15:41,773 --> 05:15:42,874
their communities and what they

9132
05:15:42,874 --> 05:15:44,874
look like.

9133
05:15:44,943 --> 05:15:46,878
The surveys is just a critical

9134
05:15:46,878 --> 05:15:48,647
tool to whatever we do in

9135
05:15:48,647 --> 05:15:50,782
collecting it, and it's going to

9136
05:15:50,782 --> 05:15:52,450
be interesting in identifying

9137
05:15:52,450 --> 05:15:54,252
people who are willing to share

9138
05:15:54,252 --> 05:15:57,622
their data, and their usage and

9139
05:15:57,622 --> 05:15:57,789
what they're using their product

9140
05:15:57,789 --> 05:15:58,189
for.

9141
05:15:58,189 --> 05:16:00,189
>> Perry: thanks.

9142
05:16:00,358 --> 05:16:01,459
>> you're welcome.

9143
05:16:01,459 --> 05:16:05,590
>> Perry: on the slide that's up

9144
05:16:06,364 --> 05:16:08,333
there right now, razi, why

9145
05:16:08,333 --> 05:16:11,269
wouldn't we keep the same

9146
05:16:11,269 --> 05:16:12,803
funding, the 71 and the -- make

9147
05:16:12,803 --> 05:16:14,720
it 71 across the board.

9148
05:16:14,720 --> 05:16:15,606
Is that what you were talking

9149
05:16:15,606 --> 05:16:17,242
about a while ago, mayor?

9150
05:16:17,242 --> 05:16:19,242
all right, great.

9151
05:16:22,460 --> 05:16:23,114
And then the 22 -- '22 bond

9152
05:16:23,114 --> 05:16:25,417
program, 40 million or whatever

9153
05:16:25,417 --> 05:16:26,851
that is, so that would be in

9154
05:16:26,851 --> 05:16:29,654
addition to that, so that would

9155
05:16:29,654 --> 05:16:29,855
actually make that 130 million?

9156
05:16:29,855 --> 05:16:30,540
Okay.

9157
05:16:30,540 --> 05:16:30,956
Great.

9158
05:16:30,956 --> 05:16:33,425
I just want to make sure we're

9159
05:16:33,425 --> 05:16:35,425
straight on that.

9160
05:16:37,295 --> 05:16:40,895
And the next slide, slide number

9161
05:16:45,270 --> 05:16:46,572
5, I totally understand this, a

9162
05:16:46,572 --> 05:16:47,539
great graphic to see the

9163
05:16:47,539 --> 05:16:47,939
improvements we're making over

9164
05:16:47,939 --> 05:16:49,507
time.

9165
05:16:49,507 --> 05:16:49,707
But I keep asking this question,

9166
05:16:49,707 --> 05:16:51,707
erik.

9167
05:16:52,110 --> 05:16:55,110
We took out that $50 million,

9168
05:16:55,613 --> 05:16:56,414
out of 2020, and where do we get

9169
05:16:56,414 --> 05:16:58,182
the money back?

9170
05:16:58,182 --> 05:16:59,830
Are we going to get that back

9171
05:16:59,830 --> 05:17:01,830
through arpa funds?

9172
05:17:02,254 --> 05:17:03,689
And is that going to be in the

9173
05:17:03,689 --> 05:17:05,689
'22 or '23 program?

9174
05:17:06,624 --> 05:17:09,940
Is that going to be $50 million

9175
05:17:09,940 --> 05:17:11,494
in addition to that 110?

9176
05:17:11,797 --> 05:17:12,864
>> so, we're not -- based on the

9177
05:17:12,864 --> 05:17:14,800
guidelines that we see now,

9178
05:17:14,800 --> 05:17:18,470
we're not going to be able to

9179
05:17:18,470 --> 05:17:20,272
recover a deferred expense.

9180
05:17:20,272 --> 05:17:23,872
But when the council gets to

9181
05:17:24,943 --> 05:17:27,145
arpa phase 2, as long as we can

9182
05:17:27,145 --> 05:17:29,180
adjust original revenue loss, if

9183
05:17:29,180 --> 05:17:31,580
the council will take $47

9184
05:17:32,484 --> 05:17:34,820
million out of the arpa, as long

9185
05:17:34,820 --> 05:17:37,122
as we can justify with revenue

9186
05:17:37,122 --> 05:17:40,122
loss, that's a possibility that

9187
05:17:40,125 --> 05:17:42,600
the council has going forward.

9188
05:17:42,600 --> 05:17:45,897
We're not going to be able to go

9189
05:17:45,897 --> 05:17:47,666
backwards to say, hey, this 47,

9190
05:17:47,666 --> 05:17:50,402
we deferred, that's not an

9191
05:17:50,402 --> 05:17:52,104
eligible expense.

9192
05:17:52,104 --> 05:17:54,839
You'll be able to, you, the

9193
05:17:54,839 --> 05:17:55,474
council, will be able to make

9194
05:17:55,474 --> 05:17:57,420
street maintenance an

9195
05:17:57,420 --> 05:17:58,209
opportunity out of the arpa, as

9196
05:17:58,209 --> 05:17:59,745
long as it stands right now with

9197
05:17:59,745 --> 05:18:01,745
the revenue loss.

9198
05:18:01,780 --> 05:18:04,183
>> Perry: I'd like to see the

9199
05:18:04,183 --> 05:18:05,784
words, the actual document on

9200
05:18:05,784 --> 05:18:07,919
what it says on that.

9201
05:18:07,919 --> 05:18:08,387
>> I would be more than happy to

9202
05:18:08,387 --> 05:18:09,821
share that.

9203
05:18:09,821 --> 05:18:10,221
>> Perry: I would love to see

9204
05:18:10,221 --> 05:18:11,589
that.

9205
05:18:11,589 --> 05:18:13,225
>> it would ultimately be up to

9206
05:18:13,225 --> 05:18:15,727
the council how that money is

9207
05:18:15,727 --> 05:18:16,128
spent in accordance with the

9208
05:18:16,128 --> 05:18:17,963
rules.

9209
05:18:17,963 --> 05:18:20,866
And again, as long as we can

9210
05:18:20,866 --> 05:18:22,434
justify with revenue loss, basic

9211
05:18:22,434 --> 05:18:22,701
general government services are

9212
05:18:22,701 --> 05:18:24,102
equitable.

9213
05:18:24,102 --> 05:18:24,803
We'll get that document.

9214
05:18:24,803 --> 05:18:25,400
>> Perry: okay.

9215
05:18:25,400 --> 05:18:26,938
Great.

9216
05:18:26,938 --> 05:18:27,706
I think that should still be on

9217
05:18:27,706 --> 05:18:29,706
the table.

9218
05:18:33,845 --> 05:18:36,845
And, you know, our survey,

9219
05:18:37,616 --> 05:18:38,583
again, our sa speak up showed

9220
05:18:38,583 --> 05:18:39,718
streets almost all the time,

9221
05:18:39,718 --> 05:18:42,718
right up at the top.

9222
05:18:42,921 --> 05:18:45,857
I think we need to see about,

9223
05:18:45,857 --> 05:18:48,257
you know, having another

9224
05:18:49,594 --> 05:18:52,230
substantial increase in our imp.

9225
05:18:52,230 --> 05:18:56,430
And whether that goes to our dnf

9226
05:18:56,835 --> 05:18:57,836
streets or whatever, to beef up

9227
05:18:57,836 --> 05:18:59,836
that program.

9228
05:18:59,938 --> 05:19:02,938
What was the total requirement

9229
05:19:03,442 --> 05:19:05,644
for f streets and d streets?

9230
05:19:05,644 --> 05:19:07,413
>> 900.

9231
05:19:07,413 --> 05:19:08,313
>> Perry: 900 million.

9232
05:19:08,313 --> 05:19:09,949
We'll never get there.

9233
05:19:09,949 --> 05:19:11,717
We need to do something else.

9234
05:19:11,717 --> 05:19:14,419
This is the opportunity, that

9235
05:19:14,419 --> 05:19:15,587
we're getting feedback on people

9236
05:19:15,587 --> 05:19:16,722
that want better streets.

9237
05:19:16,722 --> 05:19:17,890
They're paying for better

9238
05:19:17,890 --> 05:19:18,590
streets, but they're not getting

9239
05:19:18,590 --> 05:19:20,590
the better streets.

9240
05:19:20,959 --> 05:19:21,694
I think we need to put more

9241
05:19:21,694 --> 05:19:23,595
resources towards the streets

9242
05:19:23,595 --> 05:19:25,931
and react to at least in

9243
05:19:25,931 --> 05:19:28,331
district 10, that's what people

9244
05:19:29,340 --> 05:19:29,701
are clam bering for, better

9245
05:19:29,701 --> 05:19:31,701
streets.

9246
05:19:32,304 --> 05:19:33,638
I think we need to react with a

9247
05:19:33,638 --> 05:19:33,872
bigger budget for our street

9248
05:19:33,872 --> 05:19:35,872
program.

9249
05:19:36,341 --> 05:19:37,475
And our imp.

9250
05:19:37,475 --> 05:19:38,711
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

9251
05:19:38,711 --> 05:19:40,711
councilmember perry.

9252
05:19:41,213 --> 05:19:42,647
It would be helpful to get that

9253
05:19:42,647 --> 05:19:44,717
number over time, razi.

9254
05:19:44,717 --> 05:19:46,318
I believe at some point we

9255
05:19:46,318 --> 05:19:48,420
calculated that the deferred

9256
05:19:48,420 --> 05:19:50,820
maintenance on streets that

9257
05:19:51,156 --> 05:19:54,156
needed to be reconstructed along

9258
05:19:54,493 --> 05:19:54,894
with sidewalks was 4

9259
05:19:54,894 --> 05:19:55,995
some-odd-billion.

9260
05:19:55,995 --> 05:19:56,729
>> it's in the billion range.

9261
05:19:56,729 --> 05:19:57,996
>> Mayor Nirenberg: it would be

9262
05:19:57,996 --> 05:19:59,899
nice to see if that number is

9263
05:19:59,899 --> 05:20:00,365
moving at all, as we make these

9264
05:20:00,365 --> 05:20:02,365
bigger investments in

9265
05:20:03,502 --> 05:20:05,502
transportation infrastructure.

9266
05:20:07,540 --> 05:20:07,773
We'll go now to councilmember

9267
05:20:07,773 --> 05:20:09,773
bravo.

9268
05:20:10,750 --> 05:20:11,944
>> Bravo: thank you very much.

9269
05:20:11,944 --> 05:20:13,679
I don't have -- we're not

9270
05:20:13,679 --> 05:20:15,481
scheduled for a briefing on

9271
05:20:15,481 --> 05:20:17,490
public works department until

9272
05:20:17,490 --> 05:20:18,717
tuesday, where I can learn more

9273
05:20:18,717 --> 05:20:20,520
about the streets in district 1,

9274
05:20:20,520 --> 05:20:22,521
and the progress of our product.

9275
05:20:22,521 --> 05:20:23,550
So I feel I'm at a disadvantage

9276
05:20:23,550 --> 05:20:24,524
right now.

9277
05:20:24,524 --> 05:20:26,526
We're scheduled for tuesday.

9278
05:20:26,526 --> 05:20:27,693
So erik, I want to reserve the

9279
05:20:27,693 --> 05:20:30,693
right on wednesday to completely

9280
05:20:31,630 --> 05:20:31,931
change this budget.

9281
05:20:31,931 --> 05:20:33,931
[Laughing].

9282
05:20:34,330 --> 05:20:35,133
>> I guess I'll have to hear

9283
05:20:35,133 --> 05:20:36,602
from other councilmembers today.

9284
05:20:36,602 --> 05:20:38,638
But no, I think part of this is

9285
05:20:38,638 --> 05:20:41,374
to make sure that the new

9286
05:20:41,374 --> 05:20:43,209
councilmember gets some -- gets

9287
05:20:43,209 --> 05:20:45,209
the opportunity.

9288
05:20:45,678 --> 05:20:49,810
Razi and rod and the budget

9289
05:20:49,810 --> 05:20:50,883
team, we'll be meeting later on,

9290
05:20:50,883 --> 05:20:52,170
after tuesday.

9291
05:20:52,170 --> 05:20:53,552
>> Mayor Nirenberg: but to be

9292
05:20:53,552 --> 05:20:56,455
clear for just a minute, we'll

9293
05:20:56,455 --> 05:20:57,456
have budget sessions before the

9294
05:20:57,456 --> 05:20:58,124
proposed budget is presented.

9295
05:20:58,124 --> 05:20:59,892
>> right.

9296
05:20:59,892 --> 05:21:00,626
Before the adopted budget is

9297
05:21:00,626 --> 05:21:02,626
approved.

9298
05:21:02,728 --> 05:21:04,728
>> Mayor Nirenberg: right.

9299
05:21:04,964 --> 05:21:05,831
Okay.

9300
05:21:05,831 --> 05:21:07,433
>> Bravo: okay.

9301
05:21:07,433 --> 05:21:09,433
Thank you.

9302
05:21:09,468 --> 05:21:10,636
You know, when I talked to

9303
05:21:10,636 --> 05:21:12,137
constituents in district 1, I

9304
05:21:12,137 --> 05:21:13,806
had some residents describe

9305
05:21:13,806 --> 05:21:15,942
driving down their street, like

9306
05:21:15,942 --> 05:21:18,342
riding a roller coaster.

9307
05:21:20,113 --> 05:21:22,782
You know, I had one resident

9308
05:21:22,782 --> 05:21:24,500
tell me they had to change their

9309
05:21:24,500 --> 05:21:25,484
route after surgery, because it

9310
05:21:25,484 --> 05:21:26,719
hurt too much to drive down

9311
05:21:26,719 --> 05:21:27,786
their street and they had to

9312
05:21:27,786 --> 05:21:29,188
take a different route.

9313
05:21:29,188 --> 05:21:29,388
So this is definitely a big

9314
05:21:29,388 --> 05:21:31,388
issue.

9315
05:21:31,690 --> 05:21:35,294
I look forward to our meeting on

9316
05:21:35,294 --> 05:21:36,763
tuesday.

9317
05:21:36,763 --> 05:21:37,730
When it comes to -- we did talk

9318
05:21:37,730 --> 05:21:39,730
about sidewalks.

9319
05:21:41,167 --> 05:21:42,340
When I went out and talked to

9320
05:21:42,340 --> 05:21:45,634
people who [Lapse in audio] I

9321
05:21:46,380 --> 05:21:49,508
heard about how people want a

9322
05:21:49,508 --> 05:21:51,908
more vibrant downtown, a

9323
05:21:53,790 --> 05:21:54,800
downtown with more unique

9324
05:21:54,800 --> 05:21:55,881
entertainment and culture and

9325
05:21:55,881 --> 05:21:56,749
night life, and they want to

9326
05:21:56,749 --> 05:21:58,283
support that.

9327
05:21:58,283 --> 05:21:59,919
And I was told that there are

9328
05:21:59,919 --> 05:22:02,988
studies that show that if you

9329
05:22:02,988 --> 05:22:05,580
have that kind of a downtown, a

9330
05:22:05,580 --> 05:22:08,580
livable downtown that is unique,

9331
05:22:08,561 --> 05:22:10,930
then that actually increases

9332
05:22:10,930 --> 05:22:12,665
high-end tourism.

9333
05:22:12,665 --> 05:22:14,534
I was told that one key aspect

9334
05:22:14,534 --> 05:22:14,801
of that is having a walkable

9335
05:22:14,801 --> 05:22:16,602
downtown.

9336
05:22:16,602 --> 05:22:18,571
So I want to make sure we're

9337
05:22:18,571 --> 05:22:21,374
setting aside resources to make

9338
05:22:21,374 --> 05:22:23,774
downtown a walkable downtown,

9339
05:22:24,343 --> 05:22:25,244
because that's something I heard

9340
05:22:25,244 --> 05:22:27,244
a lot of.

9341
05:22:27,847 --> 05:22:29,315
>> a number of the projects in

9342
05:22:29,315 --> 05:22:30,416
downtown, commerce district is

9343
05:22:30,416 --> 05:22:32,384
one of them.

9344
05:22:32,384 --> 05:22:33,520
I'm sure you've seen other

9345
05:22:33,520 --> 05:22:35,520
construction.

9346
05:22:35,254 --> 05:22:37,624
The existing roadways was

9347
05:22:37,624 --> 05:22:39,726
four-lane, and we are reducing

9348
05:22:39,726 --> 05:22:41,261
to three-lane, because there was

9349
05:22:41,261 --> 05:22:41,527
really no need to have

9350
05:22:41,527 --> 05:22:43,527
four-lane.

9351
05:22:43,896 --> 05:22:47,496
We are making sidewalks on both

9352
05:22:47,667 --> 05:22:49,836
sides wider and more friendly

9353
05:22:49,836 --> 05:22:51,637
with landscaping and other

9354
05:22:51,637 --> 05:22:52,939
[Lapse in audio] To enjoy.

9355
05:22:52,939 --> 05:22:54,874
>> Bravo: yeah, I would like to

9356
05:22:54,874 --> 05:22:57,110
see that as a priority as well.

9357
05:22:57,110 --> 05:22:58,444
>> regarding the roller coaster

9358
05:22:58,444 --> 05:23:00,444
roadway, unfortunately, the

9359
05:23:03,683 --> 05:23:06,552
majority of the soil [Lapse in

9360
05:23:06,552 --> 05:23:08,588
audio] Most of these roads were

9361
05:23:08,588 --> 05:23:08,888
designed and built many years

9362
05:23:08,888 --> 05:23:10,123
ago.

9363
05:23:10,123 --> 05:23:10,623
We didn't have restrictive

9364
05:23:10,623 --> 05:23:12,920
standard.

9365
05:23:12,920 --> 05:23:15,692
You're right, some of them is

9366
05:23:16,629 --> 05:23:17,197
not in really good shape, [Lapse

9367
05:23:17,197 --> 05:23:19,132
in audio].

9368
05:23:19,132 --> 05:23:22,132
>> Bravo: one thing I'll be

9369
05:23:22,869 --> 05:23:24,103
interested in learning on my

9370
05:23:24,103 --> 05:23:24,904
briefings, what kind of

9371
05:23:24,904 --> 05:23:26,305
warranties are we getting on

9372
05:23:26,305 --> 05:23:29,905
this work, and make sure that

9373
05:23:31,244 --> 05:23:32,612
any work that is not -- you

9374
05:23:32,612 --> 05:23:33,646
know, that's not sthag

9375
05:23:33,646 --> 05:23:34,214
aying in good

9376
05:23:34,214 --> 05:23:36,820
condition throughout their

9377
05:23:36,820 --> 05:23:38,820
time --

9378
05:23:39,185 --> 05:23:39,486
>> we'll on every project do an

9379
05:23:39,486 --> 05:23:41,486
inspection.

9380
05:23:41,821 --> 05:23:44,758
And secondly, we have on every

9381
05:23:44,758 --> 05:23:46,860
project, we have one-year

9382
05:23:46,860 --> 05:23:49,729
warranty, on every month of the

9383
05:23:49,729 --> 05:23:52,729
project, my staff walks the

9384
05:23:53,866 --> 05:23:54,868
project, identifies the

9385
05:23:54,868 --> 05:23:55,902
deficiency and contacts the

9386
05:23:55,902 --> 05:23:58,204
company to fix it.

9387
05:23:58,204 --> 05:24:00,440
>> Bravo: and I want to talk a

9388
05:24:00,440 --> 05:24:02,342
little bit about the bike master

9389
05:24:02,342 --> 05:24:04,342
plan.

9390
05:24:05,312 --> 05:24:07,180
You know, about the need to

9391
05:24:07,180 --> 05:24:08,982
update the bike master plan for,

9392
05:24:08,982 --> 05:24:11,982
I think, five years now.

9393
05:24:12,518 --> 05:24:13,486
I know you're new here.

9394
05:24:13,486 --> 05:24:15,121
So this isn't on you.

9395
05:24:15,121 --> 05:24:16,990
But I know a lot of people have

9396
05:24:16,990 --> 05:24:19,125
been waiting a long time to make

9397
05:24:19,125 --> 05:24:20,660
san antonio a city that's safe

9398
05:24:20,660 --> 05:24:21,995
for bicyclists.

9399
05:24:21,995 --> 05:24:22,228
It's important for so many

9400
05:24:22,228 --> 05:24:23,730
reasons.

9401
05:24:23,730 --> 05:24:26,199
The more that we can create

9402
05:24:26,199 --> 05:24:28,268
opportunities for people to

9403
05:24:28,268 --> 05:24:30,970
safely commute in our city, to

9404
05:24:30,970 --> 05:24:32,339
get out of their car, and on a

9405
05:24:32,339 --> 05:24:34,700
bike, helps reduce the

9406
05:24:34,700 --> 05:24:34,241
congestion, it helps improve air

9407
05:24:34,241 --> 05:24:35,842
quality.

9408
05:24:35,842 --> 05:24:37,811
We have a real problem in our

9409
05:24:37,811 --> 05:24:38,780
community with diabetes,

9410
05:24:38,780 --> 05:24:39,312
obesity.

9411
05:24:39,312 --> 05:24:41,615
And this helps people have a

9412
05:24:41,615 --> 05:24:43,615
more healthy lifestyle.

9413
05:24:43,683 --> 05:24:45,180
So we have so many reasons to do

9414
05:24:45,180 --> 05:24:46,619
this.

9415
05:24:46,619 --> 05:24:47,154
But people need to be able to

9416
05:24:47,154 --> 05:24:49,154
feel safe.

9417
05:24:49,856 --> 05:24:51,825
So I want to know a little bit

9418
05:24:51,825 --> 05:24:55,620
more like, a firm timeline for

9419
05:24:55,620 --> 05:24:56,930
when that bicycle master plan

9420
05:24:56,930 --> 05:24:59,650
will be completed, and then

9421
05:24:59,650 --> 05:25:00,534
also, are there any commitments

9422
05:25:00,534 --> 05:25:03,270
that we can make right now, or

9423
05:25:03,270 --> 05:25:04,438
to be able to put money --

9424
05:25:04,438 --> 05:25:07,438
setting money aside in the

9425
05:25:07,541 --> 05:25:09,543
budget for things that we know

9426
05:25:09,543 --> 05:25:12,790
that could -- you know, do we

9427
05:25:12,790 --> 05:25:14,881
really -- you know, there are so

9428
05:25:14,881 --> 05:25:16,850
many people who are leaders in

9429
05:25:16,850 --> 05:25:18,518
the community who know what we

9430
05:25:18,518 --> 05:25:20,153
need, do we need to wait for the

9431
05:25:20,153 --> 05:25:21,722
study to be completed before we

9432
05:25:21,722 --> 05:25:24,722
start more of these projects.

9433
05:25:25,693 --> 05:25:27,727
And, you know, what can we get

9434
05:25:27,727 --> 05:25:28,729
started on now if we put enough

9435
05:25:28,729 --> 05:25:29,730
money in the budget.

9436
05:25:29,730 --> 05:25:30,563
>> thank you, councilmember.

9437
05:25:30,563 --> 05:25:32,399
That's a great question.

9438
05:25:32,399 --> 05:25:36,599
What we're going to do now with

9439
05:25:37,438 --> 05:25:40,274
our imp for fy '22 is work on

9440
05:25:40,274 --> 05:25:40,507
the slow streets, less stress

9441
05:25:40,507 --> 05:25:42,476
streets.

9442
05:25:42,476 --> 05:25:45,446
To give you an idea what we're

9443
05:25:45,446 --> 05:25:48,446
currently budgeted to do, we're

9444
05:25:48,915 --> 05:25:52,515
working on two bike area plans

9445
05:25:53,553 --> 05:25:55,856
for brooks and for utsa.

9446
05:25:55,856 --> 05:25:56,890
So these are part of our imp

9447
05:25:56,890 --> 05:25:57,924
work.

9448
05:25:57,924 --> 05:25:59,926
Those smaller studies in those

9449
05:25:59,926 --> 05:26:01,362
specific areas that are part of

9450
05:26:01,362 --> 05:26:02,196
sa tomorrow.

9451
05:26:02,196 --> 05:26:04,197
Additionally, what we're going

9452
05:26:04,197 --> 05:26:05,566
to be doing, we're also doing

9453
05:26:05,566 --> 05:26:07,340
our rails-to-trails project.

9454
05:26:07,340 --> 05:26:08,268
These are some of the projects

9455
05:26:08,268 --> 05:26:08,769
that we're currently using these

9456
05:26:08,769 --> 05:26:10,769
funds for.

9457
05:26:11,338 --> 05:26:14,410
What we are proposing for '22 is

9458
05:26:14,410 --> 05:26:16,477
we're going to take our bike imp

9459
05:26:16,477 --> 05:26:16,710
and develop the less stress

9460
05:26:16,710 --> 05:26:18,710
streets.

9461
05:26:19,413 --> 05:26:20,581
So we're going to develop that

9462
05:26:20,581 --> 05:26:22,981
network, identify that network,

9463
05:26:23,417 --> 05:26:25,686
our team will be doing an

9464
05:26:25,686 --> 05:26:26,987
all-day staff workshop on what

9465
05:26:26,987 --> 05:26:29,890
does that network look like.

9466
05:26:29,890 --> 05:26:32,793
And hopefully, at the beginning

9467
05:26:32,793 --> 05:26:34,895
of fy '22, we'll start that

9468
05:26:34,895 --> 05:26:36,895
work.

9469
05:26:36,930 --> 05:26:39,330
Additionally, because we don't

9470
05:26:39,733 --> 05:26:41,168
have data, we have to have the

9471
05:26:41,168 --> 05:26:42,303
data to inform our

9472
05:26:42,303 --> 05:26:44,271
decision-making, to inform which

9473
05:26:44,271 --> 05:26:45,572
projects to put into the bond.

9474
05:26:45,572 --> 05:26:48,242
And yes, you've been hearing

9475
05:26:48,242 --> 05:26:50,144
this for five years, I've been

9476
05:26:50,144 --> 05:26:51,711
here for five months, and what

9477
05:26:51,711 --> 05:26:53,681
most people don't realize is it

9478
05:26:53,681 --> 05:26:54,515
takes time to collect that data

9479
05:26:54,515 --> 05:26:56,283
and be thoughtful.

9480
05:26:56,283 --> 05:26:59,587
When we talk about the health

9481
05:26:59,587 --> 05:27:00,954
and benefits of cycling, we

9482
05:27:00,954 --> 05:27:01,355
haven't done an impact

9483
05:27:01,355 --> 05:27:02,823
assessment.

9484
05:27:02,823 --> 05:27:03,424
We were a public works agency

9485
05:27:03,424 --> 05:27:05,424
doing transportation planning

9486
05:27:05,760 --> 05:27:07,760
work.

9487
05:27:08,796 --> 05:27:09,960
Now we are a transportation

9488
05:27:09,960 --> 05:27:10,431
department.

9489
05:27:10,431 --> 05:27:12,466
And so I think it's important

9490
05:27:12,466 --> 05:27:14,635
for us to recognize where we

9491
05:27:14,635 --> 05:27:18,235
came from, and where we are.

9492
05:27:19,106 --> 05:27:19,973
And I've spoken to all of the

9493
05:27:19,973 --> 05:27:22,409
bicyclists who came here today.

9494
05:27:22,409 --> 05:27:24,278
That was one of my first

9495
05:27:24,278 --> 05:27:25,680
conversations, MARCH 26th, and I

9496
05:27:25,680 --> 05:27:27,248
said, this is what I can tell

9497
05:27:27,248 --> 05:27:28,215
you, this is what we're going to

9498
05:27:28,215 --> 05:27:30,215
do going forward.

9499
05:27:30,518 --> 05:27:32,180
I think the focus needs to be on

9500
05:27:32,180 --> 05:27:34,418
where we're going, developing

9501
05:27:34,721 --> 05:27:35,689
that plan and let it guide our

9502
05:27:35,689 --> 05:27:36,230
implementation strategies and

9503
05:27:36,230 --> 05:27:37,725
our projects.

9504
05:27:37,725 --> 05:27:40,725
So that's our goal here.

9505
05:27:41,395 --> 05:27:43,563
And with the imp, that low

9506
05:27:43,563 --> 05:27:45,332
stress system, we can develop

9507
05:27:45,332 --> 05:27:45,733
that in a year and implement

9508
05:27:45,733 --> 05:27:47,468
that.

9509
05:27:47,468 --> 05:27:50,337
And I think that speaks to what

9510
05:27:50,337 --> 05:27:50,571
a lot of cyclists want, a safe

9511
05:27:50,571 --> 05:27:51,539
network.

9512
05:27:51,539 --> 05:27:52,706
We're continuing with those

9513
05:27:52,706 --> 05:27:54,942
projects that we do currently

9514
05:27:54,942 --> 05:27:57,178
have in the bond related to

9515
05:27:57,178 --> 05:27:58,846
vision zero, and also related to

9516
05:27:58,846 --> 05:28:00,846
bike infrastructure.

9517
05:28:00,948 --> 05:28:01,683
And we're going to be talking to

9518
05:28:01,683 --> 05:28:03,683
people about it.

9519
05:28:03,785 --> 05:28:05,860
That is one of the things that I

9520
05:28:05,860 --> 05:28:07,121
said when I started in this

9521
05:28:07,121 --> 05:28:08,550
position is, we're going to

9522
05:28:08,550 --> 05:28:09,756
start having conversations about

9523
05:28:09,756 --> 05:28:11,759
how people want to move.

9524
05:28:11,759 --> 05:28:13,794
That's also going to form our

9525
05:28:13,794 --> 05:28:15,329
bike master plan update.

9526
05:28:15,329 --> 05:28:16,130
>> COUNCILWOMAN, let me add one

9527
05:28:16,130 --> 05:28:18,130
thing quickly.

9528
05:28:18,532 --> 05:28:19,734
As we go through the 2022 bond

9529
05:28:19,734 --> 05:28:22,603
discussion, one of the things

9530
05:28:22,603 --> 05:28:25,603
we're considering is putting a

9531
05:28:25,717 --> 05:28:27,408
pilot money, depending how much

9532
05:28:27,408 --> 05:28:29,760
we need, but we're gig urg out

9533
05:28:29,760 --> 05:28:31,979
what makes sense to put year

9534
05:28:31,979 --> 05:28:32,213
three, four, five in the '22

9535
05:28:32,213 --> 05:28:34,213
program.

9536
05:28:34,682 --> 05:28:35,150
That is definitely under

9537
05:28:35,150 --> 05:28:36,417
consideration.

9538
05:28:36,417 --> 05:28:38,319
So get the bike master plan done

9539
05:28:38,319 --> 05:28:40,200
in a couple of years, we'll have

9540
05:28:40,200 --> 05:28:42,190
some bond money to put towards

9541
05:28:42,190 --> 05:28:43,791
that, so we're looking at that

9542
05:28:43,791 --> 05:28:45,125
for the council to consider.

9543
05:28:45,125 --> 05:28:45,859
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

9544
05:28:45,859 --> 05:28:47,859
councilmember bravo.

9545
05:28:48,228 --> 05:28:50,228
Councilmember sandoval.

9546
05:28:59,106 --> 05:29:00,975
>> Sandoval: thank you, mayor.

9547
05:29:00,975 --> 05:29:03,975
Thank you for the presentation.

9548
05:29:05,379 --> 05:29:07,114
Could I ask you, the vision zero

9549
05:29:07,114 --> 05:29:09,160
crash assessment, is that

9550
05:29:09,160 --> 05:29:10,180
something that will occur for

9551
05:29:10,180 --> 05:29:12,120
every pedestrian wreck, or how

9552
05:29:12,120 --> 05:29:12,420
do you see that being

9553
05:29:12,420 --> 05:29:13,921
implemented?

9554
05:29:13,921 --> 05:29:14,722
>> when you say the crash

9555
05:29:14,722 --> 05:29:17,722
assessment, are you referring to

9556
05:29:17,726 --> 05:29:20,628
the assessments we do when we

9557
05:29:20,628 --> 05:29:22,864
get a request to look at it?

9558
05:29:22,864 --> 05:29:24,864
>> what's on slide 3.

9559
05:29:25,366 --> 05:29:28,366
>> so, that's what we've been

9560
05:29:28,436 --> 05:29:29,170
doing actually, since I've been

9561
05:29:29,170 --> 05:29:30,710
here.

9562
05:29:30,710 --> 05:29:32,471
When councilmembers call and

9563
05:29:33,174 --> 05:29:34,709
say, hey, we have a corridor we

9564
05:29:34,709 --> 05:29:35,343
want to look at, or road where

9565
05:29:35,343 --> 05:29:38,279
we've had a crash, can you go

9566
05:29:38,279 --> 05:29:40,279
look at that.

9567
05:29:40,715 --> 05:29:42,817
I've done several for your

9568
05:29:42,817 --> 05:29:45,817
district, and so what I'm

9569
05:29:46,120 --> 05:29:49,720
thinking is that based on the

9570
05:29:49,790 --> 05:29:49,991
trend so far, approximately

9571
05:29:49,991 --> 05:29:51,526
three.

9572
05:29:51,526 --> 05:29:53,694
Now, that doesn't mean that we

9573
05:29:53,694 --> 05:29:53,962
get requests from all the

9574
05:29:53,962 --> 05:29:55,696
districts.

9575
05:29:55,696 --> 05:29:57,640
But having as our baseline as

9576
05:29:57,640 --> 05:29:59,330
three.

9577
05:29:59,330 --> 05:30:02,370
Well, perhaps there isn't a need

9578
05:30:02,370 --> 05:30:05,673
for it in all of our districts,

9579
05:30:05,673 --> 05:30:07,275
but we want at a minimum do

9580
05:30:07,275 --> 05:30:09,177
three based on the data we have

9581
05:30:09,177 --> 05:30:10,878
related to crashes or incidents.

9582
05:30:10,878 --> 05:30:12,981
>> Sandoval: I would support

9583
05:30:12,981 --> 05:30:14,981
increasing that.

9584
05:30:16,151 --> 05:30:16,484
We can cite three in a week or a

9585
05:30:16,484 --> 05:30:18,484
month.

9586
05:30:19,587 --> 05:30:20,255
I would certainly support

9587
05:30:20,255 --> 05:30:22,255
increasing that.

9588
05:30:24,225 --> 05:30:26,894
>> so we would have to increase

9589
05:30:26,894 --> 05:30:27,195
our staff commensurately to do

9590
05:30:27,195 --> 05:30:28,896
that.

9591
05:30:28,896 --> 05:30:31,666
That's a challenge with the new

9592
05:30:31,666 --> 05:30:32,330
department, five planners and

9593
05:30:32,330 --> 05:30:34,330
three engineers.

9594
05:30:35,470 --> 05:30:37,205
So in addition [Lapse in audio]

9595
05:30:37,205 --> 05:30:38,873
Thoroughfare plan, coordination,

9596
05:30:38,873 --> 05:30:40,675
meeting and doing those things,

9597
05:30:40,675 --> 05:30:42,310
we need physical bodies to

9598
05:30:42,310 --> 05:30:43,979
perform those assessments.

9599
05:30:43,979 --> 05:30:46,214
And so we'll do the crash

9600
05:30:46,214 --> 05:30:47,982
assessments as they come in.

9601
05:30:47,982 --> 05:30:48,182
But at a minimum, we want to do

9602
05:30:48,182 --> 05:30:50,182
three.

9603
05:30:50,953 --> 05:30:51,786
And I think that's really our

9604
05:30:51,786 --> 05:30:55,386
challenge right now is there are

9605
05:30:55,690 --> 05:30:56,725
a lot of needs.

9606
05:30:56,725 --> 05:30:58,292
>> Sandoval: (Indiscernible).

9607
05:30:58,292 --> 05:30:59,694
>> oh, yeah, go ahead.

9608
05:30:59,694 --> 05:31:01,496
>> Sandoval: if you want to

9609
05:31:01,496 --> 05:31:02,430
investigate more crash

9610
05:31:02,430 --> 05:31:02,663
assessments, she needs more

9611
05:31:02,663 --> 05:31:03,165
staff.

9612
05:31:03,165 --> 05:31:05,165
>> Sandoval: thank you.

9613
05:31:08,302 --> 05:31:10,302
>> Sandoval: all right.

9614
05:31:10,472 --> 05:31:12,841
Secondly, a while back we had

9615
05:31:12,841 --> 05:31:15,243
considered a policy, every time

9616
05:31:15,243 --> 05:31:17,378
we have a development [Lapse in

9617
05:31:17,378 --> 05:31:18,747
audio] Sidewalks and that's how

9618
05:31:18,747 --> 05:31:19,514
we little by little complete

9619
05:31:19,514 --> 05:31:21,514
sidewalk gaps.

9620
05:31:21,783 --> 05:31:23,585
There are some locations where

9621
05:31:23,585 --> 05:31:23,851
sidewalks aren't always

9622
05:31:23,851 --> 05:31:25,851
feasible.

9623
05:31:25,854 --> 05:31:27,550
And there was a proposal made at

9624
05:31:27,550 --> 05:31:30,655
that time, is that something we

9625
05:31:32,827 --> 05:31:34,263
can revisit?

9626
05:31:34,263 --> 05:31:36,263
>> (Indiscernible).

9627
05:31:37,465 --> 05:31:39,301
They have to build sidewalks.

9628
05:31:39,301 --> 05:31:40,469
>> (Indiscernible) Made a

9629
05:31:40,469 --> 05:31:42,871
presentation and there was a

9630
05:31:42,871 --> 05:31:43,138
mitigation fee that was

9631
05:31:43,138 --> 05:31:45,138
proposed.

9632
05:31:46,341 --> 05:31:46,774
>> rod or mike shannon, do you

9633
05:31:46,774 --> 05:31:48,243
guys remember that?

9634
05:31:48,243 --> 05:31:50,243
The mitigation?

9635
05:31:50,779 --> 05:31:51,790
It was kind of like a fee in

9636
05:31:51,790 --> 05:31:53,790
lieu of.

9637
05:31:55,650 --> 05:31:58,720
>> that was for a bike lane.

9638
05:31:58,720 --> 05:32:00,550
>> good afternoon, everyone.

9639
05:32:00,550 --> 05:32:02,550
Mike shannon.

9640
05:32:02,257 --> 05:32:04,325
A couple of years ago there was

9641
05:32:04,325 --> 05:32:06,610
some discussion about if there

9642
05:32:06,610 --> 05:32:07,629
was a situation where there was

9643
05:32:07,629 --> 05:32:10,629
a unique hardship and they

9644
05:32:11,633 --> 05:32:13,535
wanted to get variance

9645
05:32:13,535 --> 05:32:16,438
sidewalks, there was a proposal,

9646
05:32:16,438 --> 05:32:19,541
at least the beginnings of a

9647
05:32:19,541 --> 05:32:20,142
proposal to create a

9648
05:32:20,142 --> 05:32:21,109
(Indiscernible) Instead of

9649
05:32:21,109 --> 05:32:22,411
building the sidewalk, they

9650
05:32:22,411 --> 05:32:26,548
would pay into a fund and the

9651
05:32:26,548 --> 05:32:27,315
city would put the sidewalks in.

9652
05:32:27,315 --> 05:32:28,150
[Lapse in audio] To council on

9653
05:32:28,150 --> 05:32:29,785
the code.

9654
05:32:29,785 --> 05:32:32,185
That's something that certainly

9655
05:32:32,187 --> 05:32:34,222
we could revisit if you'd like.

9656
05:32:34,222 --> 05:32:35,691
But I believe at the time we had

9657
05:32:35,691 --> 05:32:36,625
some discussions about that,

9658
05:32:36,625 --> 05:32:38,625
maybe leading that.

9659
05:32:39,930 --> 05:32:39,327
>> would that be a udc type

9660
05:32:39,327 --> 05:32:41,327
thing?

9661
05:32:41,496 --> 05:32:43,465
>> you would have to put that in

9662
05:32:43,465 --> 05:32:45,834
the udc, and then coordinate

9663
05:32:45,834 --> 05:32:46,935
with razi and his team, yeah.

9664
05:32:46,935 --> 05:32:48,303
>> Sandoval: all right.

9665
05:32:48,303 --> 05:32:50,339
We can discuss it later.

9666
05:32:50,339 --> 05:32:51,206
I just want to pose that to the

9667
05:32:51,206 --> 05:32:52,907
team, just so that they know

9668
05:32:52,907 --> 05:32:55,907
that that's a possibility that

9669
05:32:57,546 --> 05:33:01,146
came to us a while back.

9670
05:33:01,550 --> 05:33:03,919
Secondly, I do want to remind

9671
05:33:03,919 --> 05:33:04,887
COUNCILMAN Perry that the survey

9672
05:33:04,887 --> 05:33:07,287
said streets and sidewalks.

9673
05:33:07,323 --> 05:33:09,692
I want to go to razi's slide

9674
05:33:09,692 --> 05:33:11,527
number 5, and then I'll jump to

9675
05:33:11,527 --> 05:33:13,527
slide 9 after that.

9676
05:33:15,163 --> 05:33:17,632
I want to remind us that when we

9677
05:33:17,632 --> 05:33:19,668
look at this slide, and at the

9678
05:33:19,668 --> 05:33:23,268
pci, and the investment that was

9679
05:33:24,600 --> 05:33:24,206
made year by year [Lapse in

9680
05:33:24,206 --> 05:33:25,942
audio]

9681
05:33:25,942 --> 05:33:27,942
Audio] --

9682
05:33:29,111 --> 05:33:29,478
>> can you point to slide number

9683
05:33:29,478 --> 05:33:29,978
5, please.

9684
05:33:29,978 --> 05:33:31,680
>> Sandoval: thank you.

9685
05:33:31,680 --> 05:33:34,249
It does not include the $144

9686
05:33:34,249 --> 05:33:35,351
million in voter approved bonds

9687
05:33:35,351 --> 05:33:37,751
for streets and sidewalks.

9688
05:33:38,187 --> 05:33:38,988
So this is just part of the

9689
05:33:38,988 --> 05:33:40,988
whole picture.

9690
05:33:41,757 --> 05:33:42,825
It also doesn't include any

9691
05:33:42,825 --> 05:33:45,127
funding from federal funding

9692
05:33:45,127 --> 05:33:47,263
received through the mpo, or any

9693
05:33:47,263 --> 05:33:50,263
money that's invested in the

9694
05:33:50,833 --> 05:33:53,690
region by the state from MAY

9695
05:33:53,690 --> 05:33:53,536
through its tax registration

9696
05:33:53,536 --> 05:33:55,536
fund.

9697
05:33:57,706 --> 05:34:01,210
When we look at slide 9 for the

9698
05:34:01,210 --> 05:34:02,678
sidewalk program, here I see --

9699
05:34:02,678 --> 05:34:03,312
I'll chime back in, mayor,

9700
05:34:03,312 --> 05:34:04,279
unless you --

9701
05:34:04,279 --> 05:34:05,781
>> Mayor Nirenberg: finish your

9702
05:34:05,781 --> 05:34:07,416
thought here and we can get a

9703
05:34:07,416 --> 05:34:07,716
response and come back if

9704
05:34:07,716 --> 05:34:08,217
necessary.

9705
05:34:08,217 --> 05:34:10,152
>> Sandoval: thank you.

9706
05:34:10,152 --> 05:34:12,921
What we do see here is the

9707
05:34:12,921 --> 05:34:14,890
investment from the bond.

9708
05:34:14,890 --> 05:34:16,258
We also see the adp funding.

9709
05:34:16,258 --> 05:34:18,494
What we don't see are

9710
05:34:18,494 --> 05:34:20,863
certificates of obligation, or

9711
05:34:20,863 --> 05:34:22,297
any general fund being invested

9712
05:34:22,297 --> 05:34:25,297
in our local sidewalk network.

9713
05:34:25,701 --> 05:34:27,637
I will tell you what we see

9714
05:34:27,637 --> 05:34:30,806
here, most often, at the doors,

9715
05:34:30,806 --> 05:34:33,275
or at our council offices is, I

9716
05:34:33,275 --> 05:34:36,278
want to feel safe walking on my

9717
05:34:36,278 --> 05:34:37,947
street, and I have a sidewalk, I

9718
05:34:37,947 --> 05:34:39,315
think this is borderline

9719
05:34:39,315 --> 05:34:42,118
criminal that we don't have more

9720
05:34:42,118 --> 05:34:44,118
investment in this.

9721
05:34:45,554 --> 05:34:46,622
So I want to address that

9722
05:34:46,622 --> 05:34:48,622
additional revenue source.

9723
05:34:48,924 --> 05:34:49,792
I think we need to revisit what

9724
05:34:49,792 --> 05:34:50,726
this investment looks like.

9725
05:34:50,726 --> 05:34:51,594
Thank you, mayor.

9726
05:34:51,594 --> 05:34:53,994
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

9727
05:34:54,130 --> 05:34:55,300
councilmember sandoval.

9728
05:34:55,300 --> 05:34:57,300
Councilmember courage.

9729
05:35:00,690 --> 05:35:01,370
>> Courage: thank you, mayor.

9730
05:35:01,370 --> 05:35:02,738
We've talked about some

9731
05:35:02,738 --> 05:35:04,140
important things, particularly

9732
05:35:04,140 --> 05:35:06,140
vision zero.

9733
05:35:06,675 --> 05:35:10,275
Mayor, I'm in support of setting

9734
05:35:10,313 --> 05:35:12,681
aside $20 million of what we

9735
05:35:12,681 --> 05:35:15,184
normally would have spent on

9736
05:35:15,184 --> 05:35:17,584
streets in vision zero.

9737
05:35:23,693 --> 05:35:25,428
I think councilmember sandoval,

9738
05:35:25,428 --> 05:35:26,295
street and other infrastructure

9739
05:35:26,295 --> 05:35:28,695
improvements that our districts

9740
05:35:29,332 --> 05:35:31,334
need in addition to what we're

9741
05:35:31,334 --> 05:35:32,868
already programmed for streets

9742
05:35:32,868 --> 05:35:34,303
and sidewalks.

9743
05:35:34,303 --> 05:35:35,772
And this issue I hope will fill

9744
05:35:35,772 --> 05:35:37,139
a lot of gaps.

9745
05:35:37,139 --> 05:35:39,800
But I'm even more excited about

9746
05:35:39,800 --> 05:35:40,342
what might be coming down the

9747
05:35:40,342 --> 05:35:43,342
line from the federal government

9748
05:35:43,512 --> 05:35:46,149
in the way of infrastructure

9749
05:35:46,149 --> 05:35:47,917
that MAY free some of our

9750
05:35:47,917 --> 05:35:49,552
general fund money for doing

9751
05:35:49,552 --> 05:35:50,186
more street work as that money

9752
05:35:50,186 --> 05:35:52,121
comes in.

9753
05:35:52,121 --> 05:35:54,891
So as much as I want to support

9754
05:35:54,891 --> 05:35:58,491
what the mayor is saying right

9755
05:35:58,862 --> 05:35:59,562
now, and I will, I think we need

9756
05:35:59,562 --> 05:36:01,931
to reexamine that in 2003.

9757
05:36:01,931 --> 05:36:03,433
We're looking at a three-year

9758
05:36:03,433 --> 05:36:05,168
budget, but a lot can change in

9759
05:36:05,168 --> 05:36:07,504
that next year that would cause

9760
05:36:07,504 --> 05:36:09,138
us, or provide us opportunities

9761
05:36:09,138 --> 05:36:11,538
to make significant differences

9762
05:36:12,408 --> 05:36:13,610
again as we move forward.

9763
05:36:13,610 --> 05:36:16,610
When we talk about the

9764
05:36:16,713 --> 05:36:17,947
opportunity to reassess the bike

9765
05:36:17,947 --> 05:36:20,950
needs, I hope that we're going

9766
05:36:20,950 --> 05:36:22,752
to find the best practices to

9767
05:36:22,752 --> 05:36:24,119
establish these bike lanes,

9768
05:36:24,119 --> 05:36:26,255
because I know you've got to

9769
05:36:26,255 --> 05:36:28,240
look at physical protection.

9770
05:36:28,240 --> 05:36:28,391
You've got to look at cars

9771
05:36:28,391 --> 05:36:30,391
parking.

9772
05:36:30,793 --> 05:36:32,561
You've got to look at business

9773
05:36:32,561 --> 05:36:34,497
cut-ins and driveways, and all

9774
05:36:34,497 --> 05:36:36,497
of those things.

9775
05:36:37,667 --> 05:36:39,468
Plus, the greenway trails are

9776
05:36:39,468 --> 05:36:44,173
not as safe as they used to be,

9777
05:36:44,173 --> 05:36:45,575
because of so many conflicts

9778
05:36:45,575 --> 05:36:46,476
between pedestrians and bicycles

9779
05:36:46,476 --> 05:36:48,476
on those trails.

9780
05:36:48,611 --> 05:36:51,347
So we're talking about making

9781
05:36:51,347 --> 05:36:52,582
the trails part of a mobility

9782
05:36:52,582 --> 05:36:54,818
system, how do we protect the

9783
05:36:54,818 --> 05:36:55,785
average family out there walking

9784
05:36:55,785 --> 05:36:58,185
on the weekend, too.

9785
05:36:59,656 --> 05:37:02,158
So all of that needs to be very

9786
05:37:02,158 --> 05:37:04,558
carefully integrated, into both

9787
05:37:05,328 --> 05:37:07,463
vision zero and from the federal

9788
05:37:07,463 --> 05:37:09,866
money that we want to go to the

9789
05:37:09,866 --> 05:37:11,866
program on mobility.

9790
05:37:12,135 --> 05:37:13,503
So I just wanted to recognize my

9791
05:37:13,503 --> 05:37:15,538
experience in those areas, and I

9792
05:37:15,538 --> 05:37:17,507
hope we really delve into it,

9793
05:37:17,507 --> 05:37:17,707
and come up with some good

9794
05:37:17,707 --> 05:37:18,474
plans.

9795
05:37:18,474 --> 05:37:20,443
Thank you, mayor.

9796
05:37:20,443 --> 05:37:21,912
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

9797
05:37:21,912 --> 05:37:23,912
councilmember courage.

9798
05:37:27,317 --> 05:37:29,317
Councilmember castillo.

9799
05:37:31,121 --> 05:37:33,521
>> Castillo: thank you, mayor.

9800
05:37:34,424 --> 05:37:36,126
[Lapse in audio] Every door we

9801
05:37:36,126 --> 05:37:36,392
went to was streets and

9802
05:37:36,392 --> 05:37:37,694
sidewalks.

9803
05:37:37,694 --> 05:37:40,263
Some have lived there for

9804
05:37:40,263 --> 05:37:41,264
generations.

9805
05:37:41,264 --> 05:37:42,699
I agree with councilmember

9806
05:37:42,699 --> 05:37:46,350
courage that we do need to do

9807
05:37:46,350 --> 05:37:48,405
better in investing in the very

9808
05:37:48,405 --> 05:37:49,639
infrastructure of streets and

9809
05:37:49,639 --> 05:37:51,408
sidewalks.

9810
05:37:51,408 --> 05:37:53,443
And make sure we make a dent.

9811
05:37:53,443 --> 05:37:56,450
I have a question regarding

9812
05:37:56,450 --> 05:37:59,645
coordination with S.A.W.S.

9813
05:38:00,216 --> 05:38:01,551
I've heard stories from several

9814
05:38:01,551 --> 05:38:03,120
constituents [Lapse in audio]

9815
05:38:03,120 --> 05:38:04,154
And it's torn back up and

9816
05:38:04,154 --> 05:38:06,154
patched back up.

9817
05:38:07,157 --> 05:38:07,357
What does that coordination look

9818
05:38:07,357 --> 05:38:09,357
like?

9819
05:38:12,362 --> 05:38:15,962
>> on all our bond projects, and

9820
05:38:18,634 --> 05:38:21,634
imp projects, we coordinate very

9821
05:38:23,106 --> 05:38:24,474
closely with S.A.W.S. And cps.

9822
05:38:24,474 --> 05:38:26,776
Sometimes people get straight,

9823
05:38:26,776 --> 05:38:30,180
because we just want to make

9824
05:38:30,180 --> 05:38:31,981
sure S.A.W.S. Or at&t or cps

9825
05:38:31,981 --> 05:38:33,650
they don't come and cut the

9826
05:38:33,650 --> 05:38:36,486
roadway we just fixed a few

9827
05:38:36,486 --> 05:38:37,587
months ago.

9828
05:38:37,587 --> 05:38:39,587
Unfortunately sometimes there's

9829
05:38:39,823 --> 05:38:40,123
an emergency cut in fixing the

9830
05:38:40,123 --> 05:38:41,691
roadway.

9831
05:38:41,691 --> 05:38:44,940
But a big percentage of the

9832
05:38:44,940 --> 05:38:47,940
time, they don't need to

9833
05:38:47,230 --> 05:38:49,990
rebuild, it's brand-new [Lapse

9834
05:38:49,990 --> 05:38:50,467
in audio].

9835
05:38:50,467 --> 05:38:52,502
>> but councilmember, you raise

9836
05:38:52,502 --> 05:38:55,439
a very good point, that frankly

9837
05:38:55,439 --> 05:38:57,241
requires us to communicate with

9838
05:38:57,241 --> 05:38:58,474
both utilities constantly,

9839
05:38:58,474 --> 05:39:00,474
because things change.

9840
05:39:01,311 --> 05:39:03,647
And there have been -- I haven't

9841
05:39:03,647 --> 05:39:04,881
heard -- knock on wood -- I

9842
05:39:04,881 --> 05:39:07,884
haven't heard any issues as of

9843
05:39:07,884 --> 05:39:09,185
late, but in the past, there

9844
05:39:09,185 --> 05:39:10,854
were problems with the

9845
05:39:10,854 --> 05:39:13,254
contractors that the utilities

9846
05:39:13,957 --> 05:39:17,557
used to patch the street up.

9847
05:39:17,894 --> 05:39:19,562
And so annually, for public

9848
05:39:19,562 --> 05:39:21,364
works instituting plans, there's

9849
05:39:21,364 --> 05:39:22,532
a lot of coordination.

9850
05:39:22,532 --> 05:39:26,732
but we need to continue to do

9851
05:39:28,500 --> 05:39:28,872
better between us.

9852
05:39:28,872 --> 05:39:30,872
>> Castillo: thank you.

9853
05:39:30,907 --> 05:39:32,543
I also support the vision zero,

9854
05:39:32,543 --> 05:39:34,244
we must ensure all funds are

9855
05:39:34,244 --> 05:39:34,611
committed to physical

9856
05:39:34,611 --> 05:39:36,611
infrastructure.

9857
05:39:40,170 --> 05:39:42,619
And in regards to transportation

9858
05:39:42,619 --> 05:39:43,654
and the bike lanes, we had a

9859
05:39:43,654 --> 05:39:46,540
conversation of protected bike

9860
05:39:47,691 --> 05:39:49,691
lanes.

9861
05:39:51,562 --> 05:39:54,264
>> on bond projects, a number of

9862
05:39:54,264 --> 05:39:57,834
them have [Lapse in audio] Good

9863
05:39:57,834 --> 05:39:58,769
example, we are build ing

9864
05:39:58,769 --> 05:40:00,769
ing a

9865
05:40:04,641 --> 05:40:06,143
shared path off the roadway

9866
05:40:06,143 --> 05:40:06,843
[Lapse in audio].

9867
05:40:06,843 --> 05:40:09,243
Unfortunately we don't have

9868
05:40:11,281 --> 05:40:14,170
enough right-of-way to [Lapse in

9869
05:40:14,170 --> 05:40:16,170
audio].

9870
05:40:16,219 --> 05:40:19,219
It's really challenging to build

9871
05:40:19,589 --> 05:40:21,492
a protected bike lane, and there

9872
05:40:21,492 --> 05:40:23,394
is a driveway, there are other

9873
05:40:23,394 --> 05:40:26,994
issues, there is a bus stop.

9874
05:40:27,697 --> 05:40:29,800
It's very challenging [Lapse in

9875
05:40:29,800 --> 05:40:31,800
audio] Physical protection.

9876
05:40:32,269 --> 05:40:35,869
>> but also it's part of the

9877
05:40:36,340 --> 05:40:39,340
bike management plan that tomika

9878
05:40:39,743 --> 05:40:41,878
was talking about earlier.

9879
05:40:41,878 --> 05:40:43,680
We MAY have room for protective

9880
05:40:43,680 --> 05:40:45,582
bike lane, but in some areas it

9881
05:40:45,582 --> 05:40:47,584
MAY run in parallel, in some

9882
05:40:47,584 --> 05:40:50,587
areas it MAY be, what would you

9883
05:40:50,587 --> 05:40:52,890
call it, the mellow street, that

9884
05:40:52,890 --> 05:40:53,390
network that plan we have right

9885
05:40:53,390 --> 05:40:55,459
now, which we're trying to do

9886
05:40:55,459 --> 05:40:57,459
through tomika's department.

9887
05:40:57,894 --> 05:40:59,396
>> on the broadway product

9888
05:40:59,396 --> 05:41:01,796
that's under construction, the

9889
05:41:02,299 --> 05:41:03,800
other part of broadway we

9890
05:41:03,800 --> 05:41:06,200
couldn't provide bike lane.

9891
05:41:07,237 --> 05:41:07,471
We look for the side street

9892
05:41:07,471 --> 05:41:09,471
avenue.

9893
05:41:11,775 --> 05:41:14,775
Farther north we have over 100

9894
05:41:16,746 --> 05:41:18,746
(Indiscernible) Right-of-way.

9895
05:41:19,149 --> 05:41:21,318
>> Castillo: is there a code on

9896
05:41:21,318 --> 05:41:25,518
how close a frontage road can be

9897
05:41:33,797 --> 05:41:35,499
next to the sidewalk?

9898
05:41:35,499 --> 05:41:37,499
>> yes, there is.

9899
05:41:39,737 --> 05:41:40,404
Our udc has a whole section on

9900
05:41:40,404 --> 05:41:41,605
tree-planting standards.

9901
05:41:41,605 --> 05:41:43,774
I would have to get with our

9902
05:41:43,774 --> 05:41:44,141
city to get the exact

9903
05:41:44,141 --> 05:41:46,141
measurements.

9904
05:41:46,177 --> 05:41:48,111
We do measure that the tree has

9905
05:41:48,111 --> 05:41:49,246
room to grow appropriately.

9906
05:41:49,246 --> 05:41:50,314
Certainly if there's new

9907
05:41:50,314 --> 05:41:51,482
sidewalks, we want them to go

9908
05:41:51,482 --> 05:41:52,983
around it and stuff like that.

9909
05:41:52,983 --> 05:41:55,586
I can get that for you,

9910
05:41:55,586 --> 05:41:56,353
certainly, after the meeting.

9911
05:41:56,353 --> 05:41:57,210
>> Castillo: thank you.

9912
05:41:57,210 --> 05:41:59,290
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

9913
05:41:59,290 --> 05:42:00,560
councilmember castillo.

9914
05:42:00,560 --> 05:42:02,560
Real quick question.

9915
05:42:02,393 --> 05:42:03,160
Go ahead, greg.

9916
05:42:03,160 --> 05:42:04,861
>> thanks.

9917
05:42:04,861 --> 05:42:06,396
I just wanted to go over one of

9918
05:42:06,396 --> 05:42:09,833
the things that I wasn't able to

9919
05:42:09,833 --> 05:42:11,833
bring in.

9920
05:42:12,269 --> 05:42:13,303
You didn't address the nap

9921
05:42:13,303 --> 05:42:14,380
program, razi.

9922
05:42:14,380 --> 05:42:17,638
Right now we limited it to

9923
05:42:17,708 --> 05:42:19,708
$200,000 a year.

9924
05:42:21,178 --> 05:42:22,680
And we're finding that very

9925
05:42:22,680 --> 05:42:24,548
inadequate for my district.

9926
05:42:24,548 --> 05:42:25,682
We get two, maybe three projects

9927
05:42:25,682 --> 05:42:27,885
a year out of that.

9928
05:42:27,885 --> 05:42:29,853
And I would like to see an

9929
05:42:29,853 --> 05:42:32,356
increase in that budget as well.

9930
05:42:32,356 --> 05:42:33,357
Maybe up to 4 huchb, doubling

9931
05:42:33,357 --> 05:42:36,126
it, 400,000 in each one of the

9932
05:42:36,126 --> 05:42:38,126
districts.

9933
05:42:39,997 --> 05:42:42,299
That is a constant need for, you

9934
05:42:42,299 --> 05:42:44,568
know, lighted stop signs,

9935
05:42:44,568 --> 05:42:47,104
crosswalks, speed bumps, and all

9936
05:42:47,104 --> 05:42:47,938
those requirements that come in

9937
05:42:47,938 --> 05:42:49,938
across the year.

9938
05:42:50,410 --> 05:42:51,242
So I would really like to

9939
05:42:51,242 --> 05:42:54,242
advocate for a larger budget

9940
05:42:55,679 --> 05:42:58,790
with that as well.

9941
05:42:59,490 --> 05:43:00,384
And yes, I didn't say sidewalks

9942
05:43:00,384 --> 05:43:01,552
a while ago.

9943
05:43:01,552 --> 05:43:02,553
I totally understand.

9944
05:43:02,553 --> 05:43:04,553
It's with sidewalks.

9945
05:43:04,788 --> 05:43:05,789
I was on the 17 street and

9946
05:43:05,789 --> 05:43:07,580
sidewalk committee.

9947
05:43:07,580 --> 05:43:07,658
So I totally understand that.

9948
05:43:07,658 --> 05:43:09,658
I get it.

9949
05:43:09,761 --> 05:43:12,620
We have a lot of requirements in

9950
05:43:12,620 --> 05:43:12,396
district 10 for sidewalks as

9951
05:43:12,396 --> 05:43:14,396
well.

9952
05:43:14,599 --> 05:43:14,899
So, yeah, that's all I had, sir,

9953
05:43:14,899 --> 05:43:15,666
thank you.

9954
05:43:15,666 --> 05:43:16,233
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

9955
05:43:16,233 --> 05:43:18,233
councilmember perry.

9956
05:43:18,936 --> 05:43:19,570
Just a quick question for

9957
05:43:19,570 --> 05:43:21,172
tomika, actually.

9958
05:43:21,172 --> 05:43:22,439
And erik can allude to this.

9959
05:43:22,439 --> 05:43:24,542
I just want to be clear.

9960
05:43:24,542 --> 05:43:26,430
As part of the bicycle master

9961
05:43:26,430 --> 05:43:28,646
plan development, are we going

9962
05:43:28,646 --> 05:43:30,470
to define the designs for

9963
05:43:30,470 --> 05:43:31,149
bicycle path?

9964
05:43:31,149 --> 05:43:33,117
>> yeah.

9965
05:43:33,117 --> 05:43:34,352
That goal is that this product

9966
05:43:34,352 --> 05:43:36,352
will have typologies.

9967
05:43:38,856 --> 05:43:41,926
Based on the data we collect,

9968
05:43:41,926 --> 05:43:43,926
COUNCILWOMAN Castillo's comment

9969
05:43:44,462 --> 05:43:45,829
on bike lanes, if you have slow

9970
05:43:45,829 --> 05:43:47,464
streets, streets where the speed

9971
05:43:47,464 --> 05:43:48,566
is below 30 miles an hour, 35

9972
05:43:48,566 --> 05:43:51,436
miles an hour, you won't have

9973
05:43:51,436 --> 05:43:52,937
the need for as much capital

9974
05:43:52,937 --> 05:43:54,471
infrastructure for protected

9975
05:43:54,471 --> 05:43:56,641
bike lanes because you have the

9976
05:43:56,641 --> 05:43:58,609
network of low stress streets.

9977
05:43:58,609 --> 05:44:01,179
And we can identify based on the

9978
05:44:01,179 --> 05:44:03,381
speed of our existing roadways,

9979
05:44:03,381 --> 05:44:06,350
based on the width of those

9980
05:44:06,350 --> 05:44:07,518
roadways, what the minimum bike

9981
05:44:07,518 --> 05:44:09,518
amenities are.

9982
05:44:11,256 --> 05:44:11,756
Is it a buffered pike lane

9983
05:44:11,756 --> 05:44:13,290
ed

9984
05:44:13,290 --> 05:44:15,290
ed bike lane,

9985
05:44:15,660 --> 05:44:16,794
should it have a transit island,

9986
05:44:16,794 --> 05:44:19,464
which is where people who are

9987
05:44:19,464 --> 05:44:23,664
waiting at the bus don't have to

9988
05:44:24,525 --> 05:44:24,620
be in the way of the bicycles,

9989
05:44:24,620 --> 05:44:25,737
and bicyclists can pass that

9990
05:44:25,737 --> 05:44:27,504
transit island where people are

9991
05:44:27,504 --> 05:44:29,340
getting on the bus and cyclists

9992
05:44:29,340 --> 05:44:31,209
don't have to stop.

9993
05:44:31,209 --> 05:44:31,442
So the typology will be a

9994
05:44:31,442 --> 05:44:32,477
network.

9995
05:44:32,477 --> 05:44:34,311
And that's something that will

9996
05:44:34,311 --> 05:44:35,880
be related to the udc.

9997
05:44:35,880 --> 05:44:39,217
So you'll work with mike's team

9998
05:44:39,217 --> 05:44:41,119
on those development proposals,

9999
05:44:41,119 --> 05:44:44,210
and the typology is typology a,

10000
05:44:44,210 --> 05:44:46,657
a speed of 35 miles an hour,

10001
05:44:46,657 --> 05:44:48,393
140-foot right-of-way, that at a

10002
05:44:48,393 --> 05:44:49,360
minimum requires transit islands

10003
05:44:49,360 --> 05:44:51,360
at transit stops.

10004
05:44:51,496 --> 05:44:51,695
You have to have protective bike

10005
05:44:51,695 --> 05:44:53,695
lanes.

10006
05:44:55,533 --> 05:44:57,768
That is the goal of the update.

10007
05:44:57,768 --> 05:44:59,737
So it informs our development

10008
05:44:59,737 --> 05:45:01,639
process, it informs how we

10009
05:45:01,639 --> 05:45:01,906
integrate transit on those

10010
05:45:01,906 --> 05:45:03,742
corridors.

10011
05:45:03,742 --> 05:45:06,430
In tandem with that, the next

10012
05:45:06,430 --> 05:45:08,179
step will be working with via

10013
05:45:08,179 --> 05:45:09,581
and their priority corridors for

10014
05:45:09,581 --> 05:45:10,581
transit and we develop and

10015
05:45:10,581 --> 05:45:12,830
incorporate the minimum

10016
05:45:12,830 --> 05:45:13,618
standards for the transit

10017
05:45:13,618 --> 05:45:14,853
ridership on those corridors.

10018
05:45:14,853 --> 05:45:16,153
I hope that helps.

10019
05:45:16,153 --> 05:45:16,353
>> Mayor Nirenberg: it does,

10020
05:45:16,353 --> 05:45:18,353
yeah.

10021
05:45:19,824 --> 05:45:20,625
It's because we get ridiculed,

10022
05:45:20,625 --> 05:45:22,590
justifiably, for some of the

10023
05:45:22,590 --> 05:45:23,227
things that the state has called

10024
05:45:23,227 --> 05:45:25,227
a bike lane.

10025
05:45:25,730 --> 05:45:27,866
I'm thinking specifically about

10026
05:45:27,866 --> 05:45:29,534
the (Indiscernible) Parkway,

10027
05:45:29,534 --> 05:45:30,601
with a stripe that goes right

10028
05:45:30,601 --> 05:45:33,380
down the road next to the cars

10029
05:45:33,380 --> 05:45:34,572
that are going 65 miles an hour.

10030
05:45:34,572 --> 05:45:36,841
And they call that a bike lane.

10031
05:45:36,841 --> 05:45:38,943
We want to make sure we're being

10032
05:45:38,943 --> 05:45:40,845
deliberate, and when we build a

10033
05:45:40,845 --> 05:45:41,112
bicycle lane, that it's safe for

10034
05:45:41,112 --> 05:45:42,114
everybody.

10035
05:45:42,114 --> 05:45:43,800
>> yes, sir.

10036
05:45:43,800 --> 05:45:44,382
>> Mayor Nirenberg: so very much

10037
05:45:44,382 --> 05:45:45,884
looking forward to that.

10038
05:45:45,884 --> 05:45:48,860
And the last point I want to

10039
05:45:48,860 --> 05:45:48,787
make and then I'll toss it to

10040
05:45:48,787 --> 05:45:50,787
you, councilmember.

10041
05:45:53,491 --> 05:45:55,693
So I'm clear, I think we are

10042
05:45:55,693 --> 05:45:58,960
clear, erik and I were just

10043
05:45:58,960 --> 05:45:59,598
talking about this, but for

10044
05:45:59,598 --> 05:46:00,798
folks hearing this are clear,

10045
05:46:00,798 --> 05:46:02,667
when we're talking about the $20

10046
05:46:02,667 --> 05:46:05,667
million that would be earmarked

10047
05:46:06,404 --> 05:46:09,474
for vision zero, this is not

10048
05:46:09,474 --> 05:46:11,409
supplanting street projects.

10049
05:46:11,409 --> 05:46:13,100
This would be allocating in

10050
05:46:13,100 --> 05:46:16,100
addition to what is normally

10051
05:46:18,516 --> 05:46:19,984
spent in a fiscal year for

10052
05:46:19,984 --> 05:46:21,886
street maintenance.

10053
05:46:21,886 --> 05:46:23,355
And what we're missing are those

10054
05:46:23,355 --> 05:46:25,755
dollars that aren't spent

10055
05:46:26,658 --> 05:46:28,226
because they're earmarked for

10056
05:46:28,226 --> 05:46:30,226
reconstruction projects, going

10057
05:46:30,394 --> 05:46:30,728
into a design phase before it's

10058
05:46:30,728 --> 05:46:31,290
constructed.

10059
05:46:31,290 --> 05:46:32,831
>> yes.

10060
05:46:32,831 --> 05:46:33,732
And it also goes hand in hand

10061
05:46:33,732 --> 05:46:35,660
with the subsequent conversation

10062
05:46:35,660 --> 05:46:36,534
that the council will have about

10063
05:46:36,534 --> 05:46:37,836
the bond program.

10064
05:46:37,836 --> 05:46:39,737
Because that's a critical

10065
05:46:39,737 --> 05:46:41,737
element to it.

10066
05:46:42,474 --> 05:46:44,509
And so those two together make

10067
05:46:44,509 --> 05:46:45,243
that a potential opportunity for

10068
05:46:45,243 --> 05:46:46,445
us.

10069
05:46:46,445 --> 05:46:47,478
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay.

10070
05:46:47,478 --> 05:46:49,478
Thank you, guys.

10071
05:46:49,681 --> 05:46:50,215
Councilmember castillo.

10072
05:46:50,215 --> 05:46:52,150
>> Castillo: thank you.

10073
05:46:52,150 --> 05:46:53,585
I wanted to quickly note my

10074
05:46:53,585 --> 05:46:54,619
support for councilmember

10075
05:46:54,619 --> 05:46:55,620
perry's suggestion for

10076
05:46:55,620 --> 05:46:56,221
increasing that funding.

10077
05:46:56,221 --> 05:46:58,621
>> Mayor Nirenberg: all right.

10078
05:47:00,559 --> 05:47:02,559
Okay.

10079
05:47:03,762 --> 05:47:06,162
Thank you, raz o',

10080
05:47:07,699 --> 05:47:08,566
irazi, tomika.

10081
05:47:08,566 --> 05:47:10,566
Erik?

10082
05:47:14,105 --> 05:47:16,410
>> next up, lori houston and

10083
05:47:16,410 --> 05:47:19,143
beta will walk us through the

10084
05:47:19,143 --> 05:47:20,679
affordable housing components.

10085
05:47:20,679 --> 05:47:24,279
We began talking about it last

10086
05:47:39,931 --> 05:47:40,165
week, but they'll go into more

10087
05:47:40,165 --> 05:47:42,165
detail.

10088
05:47:43,836 --> 05:47:44,836
>> good afternoon.

10089
05:47:44,836 --> 05:47:47,806
If anyone needs to stretch,

10090
05:47:47,806 --> 05:47:48,840
please feel free to do so.

10091
05:47:48,840 --> 05:47:51,900
It's been a long day.

10092
05:47:51,900 --> 05:47:52,710
And we're going to talk about

10093
05:47:52,710 --> 05:47:53,211
one of our favorite topics, at

10094
05:47:53,211 --> 05:47:56,148
least for me, which is

10095
05:47:56,148 --> 05:47:58,148
affordable housing.

10096
05:48:00,352 --> 05:48:01,787
As we look at fiscal year 2022,

10097
05:48:01,787 --> 05:48:03,222
affordable housing, it is

10098
05:48:03,222 --> 05:48:03,822
important to step back and

10099
05:48:03,822 --> 05:48:06,822
figure out what we're talking

10100
05:48:06,959 --> 05:48:08,959
about.

10101
05:48:09,627 --> 05:48:10,930
So we had quite a bit of

10102
05:48:10,930 --> 05:48:12,964
conversations about what the

10103
05:48:12,964 --> 05:48:15,364
definition of affordable housing

10104
05:48:15,734 --> 05:48:17,703
is within our housing

10105
05:48:17,703 --> 05:48:18,370
commission, within our

10106
05:48:18,370 --> 05:48:20,370
organizations.

10107
05:48:22,474 --> 05:48:25,277
But I want to step back and talk

10108
05:48:25,277 --> 05:48:26,945
about the [Lapse in audio]

10109
05:48:26,945 --> 05:48:28,914
Nationally we talk about when

10110
05:48:28,914 --> 05:48:29,148
we're talking about affordable

10111
05:48:29,148 --> 05:48:30,616
housing.

10112
05:48:30,616 --> 05:48:31,884
Know that for san antonio the

10113
05:48:31,884 --> 05:48:33,619
definition of housing

10114
05:48:33,619 --> 05:48:34,419
affordability has to be

10115
05:48:34,419 --> 05:48:35,854
fine-tuned for us.

10116
05:48:35,854 --> 05:48:37,550
But when we talk about

10117
05:48:37,550 --> 05:48:39,550
affordable housing, we're

10118
05:48:40,358 --> 05:48:42,394
talking about housing that is --

10119
05:48:42,394 --> 05:48:44,330
housing that is affordable when

10120
05:48:44,330 --> 05:48:47,532
a family does not spend more

10121
05:48:47,532 --> 05:48:49,932
than 30% on housing costs.

10122
05:48:51,536 --> 05:48:54,572
And everyone, be it a person

10123
05:48:54,572 --> 05:48:56,509
making minimum wage, or a fair

10124
05:48:56,509 --> 05:48:58,277
income, has to be able to afford

10125
05:48:58,277 --> 05:48:59,611
housing, and they should not be

10126
05:48:59,611 --> 05:49:00,278
spending more than 30% of their

10127
05:49:00,278 --> 05:49:02,278
income on housing.

10128
05:49:02,948 --> 05:49:04,316
We as practitioners talk about

10129
05:49:04,316 --> 05:49:06,716
affordable housing as serving

10130
05:49:06,819 --> 05:49:08,653
families that make 80% of the

10131
05:49:08,653 --> 05:49:10,653
median income.

10132
05:49:11,223 --> 05:49:13,358
The area median income or ami

10133
05:49:13,358 --> 05:49:15,358
changes every year.

10134
05:49:18,563 --> 05:49:19,231
We use a [Lapse in audio] So for

10135
05:49:19,231 --> 05:49:21,133
context, this just came out at

10136
05:49:21,133 --> 05:49:23,269
the beginning of the month.

10137
05:49:23,269 --> 05:49:27,469
80% of ami for a family of four

10138
05:49:27,873 --> 05:49:30,873
in our metro area is 59,300.

10139
05:49:31,110 --> 05:49:32,478
So every year it will differ.

10140
05:49:32,478 --> 05:49:32,711
And of course, it varies by

10141
05:49:32,711 --> 05:49:34,711
family.

10142
05:49:35,514 --> 05:49:36,716
When we talk about housing and

10143
05:49:36,716 --> 05:49:38,351
affordable housing, we talk

10144
05:49:38,351 --> 05:49:38,717
about a broad spectrum of

10145
05:49:38,717 --> 05:49:40,219
housing.

10146
05:49:40,219 --> 05:49:41,853
It can be mixed income housing

10147
05:49:41,853 --> 05:49:44,724
where you have a market rate

10148
05:49:44,724 --> 05:49:45,557
unit next to an affordable unit

10149
05:49:45,557 --> 05:49:46,580
in the same community that is

10150
05:49:46,580 --> 05:49:48,580
being rented.

10151
05:49:51,597 --> 05:49:53,633
It can be housing that the

10152
05:49:53,633 --> 05:49:55,301
workforce utilize.

10153
05:49:55,301 --> 05:49:58,604
So people who work at a service

10154
05:49:58,604 --> 05:50:01,674
job, at a professional job, we

10155
05:50:01,674 --> 05:50:01,873
have to have housing for those

10156
05:50:01,873 --> 05:50:03,342
folks.

10157
05:50:03,342 --> 05:50:04,676
Be it being able to stay in

10158
05:50:04,676 --> 05:50:07,680
their homes that they've owned a

10159
05:50:07,680 --> 05:50:10,949
long time, or being able to

10160
05:50:10,949 --> 05:50:13,152
rent, or be it subsidized

10161
05:50:13,152 --> 05:50:14,200
affordable housing rental

10162
05:50:14,200 --> 05:50:14,854
community, veterans need housing

10163
05:50:14,854 --> 05:50:16,389
as well.

10164
05:50:16,389 --> 05:50:17,422
We include public housing here,

10165
05:50:17,422 --> 05:50:19,524
because we're talking about the

10166
05:50:19,524 --> 05:50:21,524
whole system.

10167
05:50:22,128 --> 05:50:23,929
And for those at risk or who

10168
05:50:23,929 --> 05:50:25,765
experienced homelessness, they

10169
05:50:25,765 --> 05:50:25,965
might need permanent housing as

10170
05:50:25,965 --> 05:50:27,432
well.

10171
05:50:27,432 --> 05:50:30,969
So I just wanted to talk about

10172
05:50:30,969 --> 05:50:31,203
the definition of affordable

10173
05:50:31,203 --> 05:50:32,700
housing.

10174
05:50:32,700 --> 05:50:34,507
And what we have been doing over

10175
05:50:34,507 --> 05:50:36,942
the last five years is really

10176
05:50:36,942 --> 05:50:37,209
rooted in the housing policy

10177
05:50:37,209 --> 05:50:39,209
framework.

10178
05:50:39,512 --> 05:50:41,912
So our department administers

10179
05:50:43,682 --> 05:50:46,820
programs and policies that

10180
05:50:47,119 --> 05:50:50,119
design very strategic [Lapse in

10181
05:50:50,256 --> 05:50:51,457
audio] To prevent eviction,

10182
05:50:51,457 --> 05:50:52,758
prevent homelessness and the

10183
05:50:52,758 --> 05:50:52,991
preservation of affordable

10184
05:50:52,991 --> 05:50:54,991
housing.

10185
05:50:55,930 --> 05:50:58,965
And so we do a lot of things

10186
05:50:58,965 --> 05:50:59,865
from policy to actually serving

10187
05:50:59,865 --> 05:51:02,265
families with these programs,

10188
05:51:03,569 --> 05:51:06,472
and a lot of the things, we hope

10189
05:51:06,472 --> 05:51:08,441
to continue through next year's

10190
05:51:08,441 --> 05:51:11,177
budget, to build on the elements

10191
05:51:11,177 --> 05:51:12,178
that are in this document,

10192
05:51:12,178 --> 05:51:14,178
coordinated housing system,

10193
05:51:14,981 --> 05:51:16,916
continue to have housing

10194
05:51:16,916 --> 05:51:19,316
production and rehab and

10195
05:51:19,652 --> 05:51:21,454
continued investment in those

10196
05:51:21,454 --> 05:51:22,188
areas, eviction prevention,

10197
05:51:22,188 --> 05:51:24,188
housing navigation services

10198
05:51:25,524 --> 05:51:28,524
provided in the community, and

10199
05:51:29,129 --> 05:51:30,396
of course, [Lapse in audio] That

10200
05:51:30,396 --> 05:51:32,396
improves housing.

10201
05:51:32,398 --> 05:51:32,698
All of these are in this

10202
05:51:32,698 --> 05:51:34,698
document.

10203
05:51:35,670 --> 05:51:37,370
And this document had those core

10204
05:51:37,370 --> 05:51:38,237
issues identified for a

10205
05:51:38,237 --> 05:51:40,237
community.

10206
05:51:42,318 --> 05:51:42,464
We know they have been

10207
05:51:42,464 --> 05:51:44,430
exacerbated by the pandemic.

10208
05:51:44,430 --> 05:51:44,444
The cost outpacing income

10209
05:51:44,444 --> 05:51:46,112
growth.

10210
05:51:46,112 --> 05:51:48,480
Affordable gaps when it comes to

10211
05:51:48,480 --> 05:51:51,480
housing for both home ownership

10212
05:51:52,318 --> 05:51:53,180
and rental, a supply-and-demand

10213
05:51:53,180 --> 05:51:55,180
mismatch.

10214
05:51:56,355 --> 05:51:57,490
More people being house

10215
05:51:57,490 --> 05:51:59,490
burdened, decreasing home

10216
05:52:02,461 --> 05:52:02,796
ownership throughout the city.

10217
05:52:02,796 --> 05:52:04,664
And of course

10218
05:52:04,664 --> 05:52:06,165
so all of that is in the policy

10219
05:52:06,165 --> 05:52:08,165
task force.

10220
05:52:09,102 --> 05:52:10,269
It identified -- this document

10221
05:52:10,269 --> 05:52:11,771
identified five priorities,

10222
05:52:11,771 --> 05:52:14,771
including making sure that we

10223
05:52:14,907 --> 05:52:16,876
have a coordinated housing

10224
05:52:16,876 --> 05:52:19,876
system, large ecosystem, but we

10225
05:52:20,280 --> 05:52:20,947
need to continue to be better at

10226
05:52:20,947 --> 05:52:22,916
coordinating all the systems

10227
05:52:22,916 --> 05:52:24,650
that serve the community from

10228
05:52:24,650 --> 05:52:26,753
the homeless to the housing

10229
05:52:26,753 --> 05:52:28,121
navigation services to how do we

10230
05:52:28,121 --> 05:52:30,121
increase home ownership.

10231
05:52:31,424 --> 05:52:34,424
And so building the housing

10232
05:52:35,194 --> 05:52:38,794
policy form, in the process, and

10233
05:52:41,000 --> 05:52:43,690
the pandemic, [Lapse in audio]

10234
05:52:43,690 --> 05:52:43,669
Plan for the housing policy

10235
05:52:43,669 --> 05:52:44,638
framework.

10236
05:52:44,638 --> 05:52:46,940
It's a great document.

10237
05:52:46,940 --> 05:52:49,108
It has a lot of great policies.

10238
05:52:49,108 --> 05:52:50,209
But what we are doing with the

10239
05:52:50,209 --> 05:52:52,209
strategic housing implementation

10240
05:52:53,846 --> 05:52:55,481
plan is defining affordability

10241
05:52:55,481 --> 05:52:57,384
for san antonio, we're

10242
05:52:57,384 --> 05:53:00,119
recalibrating the goals in the

10243
05:53:00,119 --> 05:53:03,719
ten-year plan, now that we have

10244
05:53:03,857 --> 05:53:06,393
three years of data to show how

10245
05:53:06,393 --> 05:53:09,993
we're meeting the needs in the

10246
05:53:17,403 --> 05:53:17,571
community [Lapse in audio],

10247
05:53:17,571 --> 05:53:19,571
.

10248
05:53:19,639 --> 05:53:20,473
What is being delivered, who is

10249
05:53:20,473 --> 05:53:22,750
doing what.

10250
05:53:22,750 --> 05:53:22,375
and also, how we're going to get

10251
05:53:22,375 --> 05:53:24,343
there.

10252
05:53:24,343 --> 05:53:25,979
So the strategic housing

10253
05:53:25,979 --> 05:53:28,379
implementation plan, which is

10254
05:53:29,115 --> 05:53:30,850
under way now, involves a lot of

10255
05:53:30,850 --> 05:53:32,652
the folks who helped us with the

10256
05:53:32,652 --> 05:53:34,387
house policy framework, and it

10257
05:53:34,387 --> 05:53:36,222
gives us the implementation

10258
05:53:36,222 --> 05:53:38,240
plan, so we can have clear how

10259
05:53:38,240 --> 05:53:39,893
to get there, and clear

10260
05:53:39,893 --> 05:53:41,270
accountability for the policies

10261
05:53:41,270 --> 05:53:43,270
being fleshed out.

10262
05:53:43,463 --> 05:53:45,863
Importantly, this year, we

10263
05:53:46,199 --> 05:53:48,434
completed our for everyone home

10264
05:53:48,434 --> 05:53:50,834
displacement agenda as well,

10265
05:53:52,605 --> 05:53:54,241
which detailed the who, what and

10266
05:53:54,241 --> 05:53:54,474
how for anti-displacement

10267
05:53:54,474 --> 05:53:55,875
efforts.

10268
05:53:55,875 --> 05:53:58,275
There are strategies being

10269
05:53:58,512 --> 05:53:59,479
fleshed out over the next month

10270
05:53:59,479 --> 05:54:02,479
that will [Lapse in audio].

10271
05:54:03,150 --> 05:54:05,185
But the other recommendations in

10272
05:54:05,185 --> 05:54:06,787
that displacement work will be

10273
05:54:06,787 --> 05:54:07,520
folded into the strategic

10274
05:54:07,520 --> 05:54:09,520
housing implementation plan.

10275
05:54:11,925 --> 05:54:13,226
We have a lot of fun when we say

10276
05:54:13,226 --> 05:54:15,728
shipmates and steering the ship,

10277
05:54:15,728 --> 05:54:16,996
so we have a good sense of humor

10278
05:54:16,996 --> 05:54:19,700
when we talk about housing.

10279
05:54:19,700 --> 05:54:23,300
But some of the ship strategies

10280
05:54:23,470 --> 05:54:24,700
as we service through various

10281
05:54:24,700 --> 05:54:26,907
muddy waters is all of these

10282
05:54:26,907 --> 05:54:28,907
policies.

10283
05:54:31,277 --> 05:54:34,447
We have forms that help us, we

10284
05:54:34,447 --> 05:54:36,382
have real estate professionals,

10285
05:54:36,382 --> 05:54:38,382
nonprofit providers, and

10286
05:54:39,352 --> 05:54:41,354
advocates who are grass roots

10287
05:54:41,354 --> 05:54:42,856
activists on the housing site.

10288
05:54:42,856 --> 05:54:46,456
They are tackling what we do

10289
05:54:47,828 --> 05:54:48,728
when it comes to real estate

10290
05:54:48,728 --> 05:54:50,763
development [Lapse in audio].

10291
05:54:50,763 --> 05:54:52,165
We have, of course, a lot of

10292
05:54:52,165 --> 05:54:53,900
housing policy that some of it

10293
05:54:53,900 --> 05:54:55,602
is put on hold, some of it is

10294
05:54:55,602 --> 05:54:59,720
going forward, some of it has to

10295
05:54:59,720 --> 05:55:01,410
do with the udc, for example.

10296
05:55:01,410 --> 05:55:02,242
We have the affordable housing

10297
05:55:02,242 --> 05:55:03,711
community being a big part of

10298
05:55:03,711 --> 05:55:05,913
the conversation, shaping what

10299
05:55:05,913 --> 05:55:06,112
we do in that implementation

10300
05:55:06,112 --> 05:55:08,112
plan.

10301
05:55:09,782 --> 05:55:12,552
And we have a lot of residents

10302
05:55:12,552 --> 05:55:16,152
involved that are helping us to

10303
05:55:16,623 --> 05:55:19,623
address when it comes to

10304
05:55:20,126 --> 05:55:23,126
eviction, diversion, so all of

10305
05:55:23,163 --> 05:55:23,364
that is a part of what we're

10306
05:55:23,364 --> 05:55:25,364
doing.

10307
05:55:27,700 --> 05:55:30,237
So we knew in 2018 that we had

10308
05:55:30,237 --> 05:55:32,637
housing challenges, and the

10309
05:55:32,639 --> 05:55:32,806
pandemic has only exacerbated

10310
05:55:32,806 --> 05:55:34,806
it.

10311
05:55:36,109 --> 05:55:38,345
Just last week, [Lapse in audio]

10312
05:55:38,345 --> 05:55:40,313
Housing assistance program, this

10313
05:55:40,313 --> 05:55:41,949
is the largest housing

10314
05:55:41,949 --> 05:55:42,682
assistance program in the

10315
05:55:42,682 --> 05:55:44,682
country.

10316
05:55:44,985 --> 05:55:46,119
We have $89 million program, but

10317
05:55:46,119 --> 05:55:48,210
the federal moneys are not going

10318
05:55:48,210 --> 05:55:52,221
to last forever, so we need to

10319
05:55:53,560 --> 05:55:53,794
get back to the items that this

10320
05:55:53,794 --> 05:55:54,728
document

10321
05:55:54,728 --> 05:55:54,994
document's strategic approach

10322
05:55:54,994 --> 05:55:56,397
calls for.

10323
05:55:56,397 --> 05:55:57,998
We need to get back to

10324
05:55:57,998 --> 05:55:59,599
production preservation, the

10325
05:55:59,599 --> 05:56:00,901
programs that we know our

10326
05:56:00,901 --> 05:56:02,936
community needed before the

10327
05:56:02,936 --> 05:56:05,672
pandemic, and that continues to

10328
05:56:05,672 --> 05:56:06,730
be a need in our community as

10329
05:56:06,730 --> 05:56:08,410
well.

10330
05:56:08,410 --> 05:56:10,277
And so we will continue to have

10331
05:56:10,277 --> 05:56:11,678
the response to the pandemic

10332
05:56:11,678 --> 05:56:12,947
through emergency housing

10333
05:56:12,947 --> 05:56:14,281
assistance, but we need to get

10334
05:56:14,281 --> 05:56:17,881
back to the other things that

10335
05:56:17,951 --> 05:56:19,686
are going to move us forward to

10336
05:56:19,686 --> 05:56:21,686
a post-pandemic housing

10337
05:56:22,822 --> 05:56:24,822
landscape.

10338
05:56:25,325 --> 05:56:26,930
This is a comparison that has

10339
05:56:26,930 --> 05:56:28,620
some of the programs that are

10340
05:56:28,620 --> 05:56:30,462
helping us achieve housing

10341
05:56:31,531 --> 05:56:33,333
affordability in our community.

10342
05:56:33,333 --> 05:56:34,568
This is this year's adopted

10343
05:56:34,568 --> 05:56:34,902
budget compared to the trial

10344
05:56:34,902 --> 05:56:36,369
budget.

10345
05:56:36,369 --> 05:56:40,569
So you see that we do everything

10346
05:56:42,109 --> 05:56:44,110
from subsidized to affordable

10347
05:56:44,110 --> 05:56:45,679
housing through our gap

10348
05:56:45,679 --> 05:56:47,815
financing, that we help families

10349
05:56:47,815 --> 05:56:49,917
figure out how to clear the

10350
05:56:49,917 --> 05:56:51,185
title to their properties, so

10351
05:56:51,185 --> 05:56:55,256
that they can reap the value of

10352
05:56:55,256 --> 05:56:56,389
that equity, or qualify for

10353
05:56:56,389 --> 05:56:56,590
programs that require your

10354
05:56:56,590 --> 05:56:58,590
title.

10355
05:56:59,593 --> 05:57:02,296
We have support for partners

10356
05:57:02,296 --> 05:57:04,431
like the san antonio local

10357
05:57:04,431 --> 05:57:06,431
initiative support corporation.

10358
05:57:06,867 --> 05:57:09,837
And we have direct services to

10359
05:57:09,837 --> 05:57:11,705
help homeowners take care of

10360
05:57:11,705 --> 05:57:12,974
minor repairs, take care of a

10361
05:57:12,974 --> 05:57:15,709
roof, that helps that family

10362
05:57:15,709 --> 05:57:16,430
stay in their home and in their

10363
05:57:16,430 --> 05:57:18,430
neighborhood.

10364
05:57:18,679 --> 05:57:20,748
So we'll continue to have those

10365
05:57:20,748 --> 05:57:21,715
programs going forward.

10366
05:57:21,715 --> 05:57:23,784
Some of these programs are

10367
05:57:23,784 --> 05:57:26,120
delivered in-house, some of it

10368
05:57:26,120 --> 05:57:26,921
is outsourced and we use a lot

10369
05:57:26,921 --> 05:57:27,888
of contractors to help us do

10370
05:57:27,888 --> 05:57:29,990
some of this work.

10371
05:57:29,990 --> 05:57:31,525
We do want to get back to doing

10372
05:57:31,525 --> 05:57:32,325
more of the down payment

10373
05:57:32,325 --> 05:57:34,325
assistance as well.

10374
05:57:35,129 --> 05:57:38,165
That is a program that has money

10375
05:57:38,165 --> 05:57:39,700
shifted to rehab.

10376
05:57:39,700 --> 05:57:42,570
With the affordability gap, we

10377
05:57:42,570 --> 05:57:43,403
have to get back to help these

10378
05:57:43,403 --> 05:57:45,803
families achieve that home

10379
05:57:46,340 --> 05:57:48,740
ownership dream as well.

10380
05:57:49,760 --> 05:57:51,679
Of course, we have learned and

10381
05:57:51,679 --> 05:57:54,315
expanded a lot of programs,

10382
05:57:54,315 --> 05:57:56,284
because [Lapse in audio]

10383
05:57:56,284 --> 05:57:57,317
Expanding programs that help

10384
05:57:57,317 --> 05:57:57,618
families facing housing

10385
05:57:57,618 --> 05:57:59,618
insecurity.

10386
05:58:03,791 --> 05:58:06,561
So we're going to continue to.

10387
05:58:06,561 --> 05:58:07,995
We already had a risk mitigation

10388
05:58:07,995 --> 05:58:09,730
program before the pandemic, the

10389
05:58:09,730 --> 05:58:10,898
foundation for emergency housing

10390
05:58:10,898 --> 05:58:12,533
assistance program.

10391
05:58:12,533 --> 05:58:14,350
We want to continue to have

10392
05:58:14,350 --> 05:58:16,804
that, though we might not have

10393
05:58:16,804 --> 05:58:19,400
the same scale as we had over

10394
05:58:19,400 --> 05:58:21,410
the last 15 months and we might

10395
05:58:21,410 --> 05:58:22,843
not make it as generous as the

10396
05:58:22,843 --> 05:58:24,843
program is currently.

10397
05:58:25,847 --> 05:58:27,480
And again we have to continue to

10398
05:58:27,480 --> 05:58:28,816
build our coordinated housing

10399
05:58:28,816 --> 05:58:30,585
system and have that support

10400
05:58:30,585 --> 05:58:33,585
with our partners in place.

10401
05:58:33,821 --> 05:58:35,757
So this is just showing the

10402
05:58:35,757 --> 05:58:38,392
current adopted budget and the

10403
05:58:38,392 --> 05:58:40,160
trial budget numbers.

10404
05:58:40,160 --> 05:58:42,596
One of the things we had before

10405
05:58:42,596 --> 05:58:44,599
or had to grow because of the

10406
05:58:44,599 --> 05:58:46,267
pandemic include a right to

10407
05:58:46,267 --> 05:58:47,535
counsel program which we want to

10408
05:58:47,535 --> 05:58:49,837
continue to have and expand.

10409
05:58:49,837 --> 05:58:52,106
We did create a court support

10410
05:58:52,106 --> 05:58:54,175
for evictions that we would like

10411
05:58:54,175 --> 05:58:56,100
to continue going forward.

10412
05:58:56,100 --> 05:58:57,678
We have a lot more know your

10413
05:58:57,678 --> 05:58:59,113
rights trainings that we think

10414
05:58:59,113 --> 05:59:01,249
are important as part of the

10415
05:59:01,249 --> 05:59:03,649
house navigation services that

10416
05:59:04,419 --> 05:59:04,752
we want to continue in the

10417
05:59:04,752 --> 05:59:05,987
future.

10418
05:59:05,987 --> 05:59:07,855
As counsel you adopted the

10419
05:59:07,855 --> 05:59:08,923
notice of tenants rights so

10420
05:59:08,923 --> 05:59:10,224
that's part of the housing

10421
05:59:10,224 --> 05:59:12,927
navigation services he want to

10422
05:59:12,927 --> 05:59:15,563
continue to have and this is

10423
05:59:15,563 --> 05:59:17,365
informing both landlords and

10424
05:59:17,365 --> 05:59:18,533
tenants a about the rights that

10425
05:59:18,533 --> 05:59:20,533
tenants have.

10426
05:59:21,269 --> 05:59:22,569
Recently, you passed a housing

10427
05:59:22,569 --> 05:59:24,372
voucher incentive policy so we

10428
05:59:24,372 --> 05:59:25,540
will get to the data and testing

10429
05:59:25,540 --> 05:59:27,940
starting next fiscal year.

10430
05:59:27,976 --> 05:59:31,913
We had a program three years ago

10431
05:59:31,913 --> 05:59:33,881
that helped families who have,

10432
05:59:33,881 --> 05:59:34,816
are considered high-risk renters

10433
05:59:34,816 --> 05:59:36,484
get housing, have more

10434
05:59:36,484 --> 05:59:38,586
opportunity to be able to rent.

10435
05:59:38,586 --> 05:59:40,589
It is called place in

10436
05:59:40,589 --> 05:59:42,123
partnership with the south alamo

10437
05:59:42,123 --> 05:59:42,757
regional alliance for the

10438
05:59:42,757 --> 05:59:44,326
homeless, we want to continue

10439
05:59:44,326 --> 05:59:46,193
that program as well.

10440
05:59:46,193 --> 05:59:47,862
We know relocation assistance is

10441
05:59:47,862 --> 05:59:50,262
going to be important,

10442
05:59:50,598 --> 05:59:51,866
especially as the cdc eviction

10443
05:59:51,866 --> 05:59:53,602
moratorium comes to an end and

10444
05:59:53,602 --> 05:59:54,836
we want to continue the great

10445
05:59:54,836 --> 05:59:57,236
partnership with the department

10446
05:59:57,706 --> 05:59:59,975
of huge services when it comes

10447
05:59:59,975 --> 06:00:02,377
to the navigators, both for

10448
06:00:02,377 --> 06:00:04,211
housing navigation services,

10449
06:00:04,211 --> 06:00:04,946
fair housing counseling and

10450
06:00:04,946 --> 06:00:06,447
benefit navigators.

10451
06:00:06,447 --> 06:00:08,847
Our departments are working

10452
06:00:09,116 --> 06:00:11,520
closer than ever to make sure

10453
06:00:11,520 --> 06:00:14,652
that our clients get the full

10454
06:00:14,656 --> 06:00:15,857
spectrum of services.

10455
06:00:15,857 --> 06:00:17,692
And so we have five justice of

10456
06:00:17,692 --> 06:00:18,126
the peace courts that do

10457
06:00:18,126 --> 06:00:20,126
evictions.

10458
06:00:20,328 --> 06:00:22,163
We have a presence every time

10459
06:00:22,163 --> 06:00:24,199
there is a court that is meeting

10460
06:00:24,199 --> 06:00:25,366
on evictions, that is a program

10461
06:00:25,366 --> 06:00:27,766
we want to continue.

10462
06:00:27,802 --> 06:00:28,837
We know there is a disparate

10463
06:00:28,837 --> 06:00:31,500
impact as well with regards to

10464
06:00:31,500 --> 06:00:32,674
who is getting eviction notices

10465
06:00:32,674 --> 06:00:34,743
so we want to continue to

10466
06:00:34,743 --> 06:00:37,211
provide that in the future.

10467
06:00:37,211 --> 06:00:38,279
We will connect residents to the

10468
06:00:38,279 --> 06:00:40,279
emergency housing assistance

10469
06:00:41,490 --> 06:00:42,350
program as we have done and also

10470
06:00:42,350 --> 06:00:43,284
make sure that people take

10471
06:00:43,284 --> 06:00:44,619
advantage of the program that

10472
06:00:44,619 --> 06:00:46,621
the state is running.

10473
06:00:46,621 --> 06:00:47,689
The state is running the

10474
06:00:47,689 --> 06:00:49,557
eviction diversion program so we

10475
06:00:49,557 --> 06:00:51,250
want to make sure people tap

10476
06:00:51,250 --> 06:00:52,627
into those resources and all of

10477
06:00:52,627 --> 06:00:53,895
these are new, so we have to

10478
06:00:53,895 --> 06:00:55,463
make sure people know about it.

10479
06:00:55,463 --> 06:00:58,233
It is hard enough letting people

10480
06:00:58,233 --> 06:00:59,668
know about something that exists

10481
06:00:59,668 --> 06:01:00,501
like the homestead exemptions

10482
06:01:00,501 --> 06:01:01,702
you talked about.

10483
06:01:01,702 --> 06:01:04,172
It is more of a challenge when

10484
06:01:04,172 --> 06:01:06,308
it is a whole new program that

10485
06:01:06,308 --> 06:01:07,975
didn't exist two years ago.

10486
06:01:07,975 --> 06:01:09,544
But we are up for that damage.

10487
06:01:09,544 --> 06:01:11,813
We want to make sure we continue

10488
06:01:11,813 --> 06:01:13,982
those counseling services to the

10489
06:01:13,982 --> 06:01:15,583
individuals and families that

10490
06:01:15,583 --> 06:01:17,552
need housing assistance and

10491
06:01:17,552 --> 06:01:20,452
those that are facing relocation

10492
06:01:20,452 --> 06:01:20,689
issues as well.

10493
06:01:20,689 --> 06:01:22,824
Fair housing is something that

10494
06:01:22,824 --> 06:01:24,392
has been embedded in the work

10495
06:01:24,392 --> 06:01:26,227
that we do so we want that

10496
06:01:26,227 --> 06:01:28,227
information to continue.

10497
06:01:30,732 --> 06:01:31,700
We focus so much on e has been

10498
06:01:31,700 --> 06:01:33,700
emergency housing assistant

10499
06:01:33,735 --> 06:01:34,803
program we couldn't do a lot of

10500
06:01:34,803 --> 06:01:36,337
the in person training but we

10501
06:01:36,337 --> 06:01:39,700
want to get back to that and 15

10502
06:01:39,700 --> 06:01:40,750
that partnership to connect

10503
06:01:40,750 --> 06:01:42,100
residents with housing services

10504
06:01:42,100 --> 06:01:44,413
to all of the other services

10505
06:01:44,413 --> 06:01:47,149
that they might be eligible for

10506
06:01:47,149 --> 06:01:49,317
that dhs has through their

10507
06:01:49,317 --> 06:01:51,353
benefit navigators as well.

10508
06:01:51,353 --> 06:01:53,688
So with regards to next year,

10509
06:01:53,688 --> 06:01:55,757
top priorities from what we know

10510
06:01:55,757 --> 06:01:58,260
of the housing policy framework,

10511
06:01:58,260 --> 06:02:00,620
the data, the numbers that we

10512
06:02:00,620 --> 06:02:02,831
have for the last three years

10513
06:02:02,831 --> 06:02:05,134
and what we have heard, even as

10514
06:02:05,134 --> 06:02:06,468
we provided emergency housing

10515
06:02:06,468 --> 06:02:09,470
assistance is that we need to

10516
06:02:09,470 --> 06:02:11,606
back to having more of that

10517
06:02:11,606 --> 06:02:12,941
owner occupied rehab for our

10518
06:02:12,941 --> 06:02:14,876
homeowners, that we need to

10519
06:02:14,876 --> 06:02:16,511
continue to help families with

10520
06:02:16,511 --> 06:02:18,911
minor repairs, because these

10521
06:02:21,316 --> 06:02:22,951
programs not only keep a house

10522
06:02:22,951 --> 06:02:24,386
going earnings expand the

10523
06:02:24,386 --> 06:02:26,788
longevity of the house but they

10524
06:02:26,788 --> 06:02:29,457
keep a family in a neighborhood.

10525
06:02:29,457 --> 06:02:31,727
They don't disrupt that family

10526
06:02:31,727 --> 06:02:33,962
and it is also something that is

10527
06:02:33,962 --> 06:02:35,697
for climate issues effective and

10528
06:02:35,697 --> 06:02:38,400
it is also sometimes cheaper

10529
06:02:38,400 --> 06:02:40,268
than building a new unit.

10530
06:02:40,268 --> 06:02:41,369
.. We know we have to administer

10531
06:02:41,369 --> 06:02:44,369
these programs and have the

10532
06:02:44,573 --> 06:02:46,341
staff to provide the counseling,

10533
06:02:46,341 --> 06:02:48,341
the resources, processing

10534
06:02:48,777 --> 06:02:50,120
placings, so $5 million for

10535
06:02:50,120 --> 06:02:50,779
affordable housing, and these

10536
06:02:50,779 --> 06:02:52,748
are the priorities.

10537
06:02:52,748 --> 06:02:54,182
The satisfy to help our

10538
06:02:54,182 --> 06:02:56,582
community members and the

10539
06:02:56,585 --> 06:03:00,185
programs that we wish to expand,

10540
06:03:00,755 --> 06:03:01,856
owner occupied rehab, minor

10541
06:03:01,856 --> 06:03:04,256
repair, and rental assistance

10542
06:03:05,694 --> 06:03:06,695
because we know, again, the

10543
06:03:06,695 --> 06:03:08,764
effects of the pandemic are

10544
06:03:08,764 --> 06:03:12,101
going to demand we do that well.

10545
06:03:12,101 --> 06:03:14,135
That is the end of the

10546
06:03:14,135 --> 06:03:16,238
presentation -- and I can answer

10547
06:03:16,238 --> 06:03:16,472
any questions you might have.

10548
06:03:16,472 --> 06:03:17,306
>> Mayor

10549
06:03:17,306 --> 06:03:18,400
have.

10550
06:03:18,400 --> 06:03:20,440
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

10551
06:03:20,543 --> 06:03:24,143
As we get into the discussion,

10552
06:03:24,632 --> 06:03:25,581
just top line, what I would like

10553
06:03:25,581 --> 06:03:26,849
to see as we get into our budget

10554
06:03:26,849 --> 06:03:29,849
briefings is, and especially as

10555
06:03:30,386 --> 06:03:32,521
we go into the 2022 bond cycle

10556
06:03:32,521 --> 06:03:34,223
is an update on how we are doing

10557
06:03:34,223 --> 06:03:36,525
on all of the ten year

10558
06:03:36,525 --> 06:03:38,593
implementation plan metrics, and

10559
06:03:38,593 --> 06:03:42,970
also if we can get a report over

10560
06:03:42,970 --> 06:03:43,499
the last few years, how many

10561
06:03:43,499 --> 06:03:46,200
affordable units of all types

10562
06:03:46,200 --> 06:03:48,203
have been built or identified in

10563
06:03:48,203 --> 06:03:50,939
the city, that would be helpful,

10564
06:03:50,939 --> 06:03:52,408
so we can talk about what is

10565
06:03:52,408 --> 06:03:54,808
working and potentially what

10566
06:03:55,770 --> 06:03:57,790
needs to be adjusted.

10567
06:03:57,790 --> 06:03:59,715
What I am interested in is how

10568
06:03:59,715 --> 06:04:02,218
we are going transition from

10569
06:04:02,218 --> 06:04:05,200
what has been crisis management

10570
06:04:05,200 --> 06:04:06,880
emergency housing protocol

10571
06:04:06,880 --> 06:04:08,124
specifically to work with the

10572
06:04:08,124 --> 06:04:10,250
housing navigators and counsel

10573
06:04:10,250 --> 06:04:11,627
lors have been doing at the

10574
06:04:11,627 --> 06:04:12,628
library which they are doing

10575
06:04:12,628 --> 06:04:14,263
phenomenal work, how we are

10576
06:04:14,263 --> 06:04:16,365
going to transition that and the

10577
06:04:16,365 --> 06:04:19,101
lessons learned into more of our

10578
06:04:19,101 --> 06:04:20,936
long-term strategy.

10579
06:04:20,936 --> 06:04:22,936
>> great question.

10580
06:04:23,405 --> 06:04:24,173
So part of what we are proposing

10581
06:04:24,173 --> 06:04:26,573
under the administration of

10582
06:04:26,743 --> 06:04:28,770
funds and programs is increasing

10583
06:04:28,770 --> 06:04:28,310
the staffing for the housing and

10584
06:04:28,310 --> 06:04:30,310
a half

10585
06:04:31,480 --> 06:04:33,348
navigation services, so that the

10586
06:04:33,348 --> 06:04:34,550
transition is an easy one.

10587
06:04:34,550 --> 06:04:35,170
We have been providing the

10588
06:04:35,170 --> 06:04:37,170
services.

10589
06:04:37,253 --> 06:04:39,210
We had been providing the

10590
06:04:39,210 --> 06:04:40,923
emergency housing assistance.

10591
06:04:40,923 --> 06:04:43,250
Obviously we cannot do it at the

10592
06:04:43,250 --> 06:04:45,160
scale with all of the federal

10593
06:04:45,160 --> 06:04:46,829
money we had with $189 million

10594
06:04:46,829 --> 06:04:49,198
program, but we do want to

10595
06:04:49,198 --> 06:04:50,566
continue to assist with some

10596
06:04:50,566 --> 06:04:51,967
emergency housing assistance,

10597
06:04:51,967 --> 06:04:54,690
but it really is the counseling

10598
06:04:54,690 --> 06:04:55,170
and the housing navigation

10599
06:04:55,170 --> 06:04:57,173
services that we are growing so

10600
06:04:57,173 --> 06:04:59,375
we are adding staff to that, so

10601
06:04:59,375 --> 06:05:01,477
that the counseling, the

10602
06:05:01,477 --> 06:05:02,945
benefits, all of that is part of

10603
06:05:02,945 --> 06:05:05,448
what we continue to provide.

10604
06:05:05,448 --> 06:05:07,160
And then we will still have, you

10605
06:05:07,160 --> 06:05:07,749
know, before it was risk

10606
06:05:07,749 --> 06:05:08,751
mitigation program and still

10607
06:05:08,751 --> 06:05:11,151
have funding for that.

10608
06:05:11,253 --> 06:05:13,122
We will have to revisit the

10609
06:05:13,122 --> 06:05:14,690
allowances for that program,

10610
06:05:14,690 --> 06:05:16,593
because there will be less money

10611
06:05:16,593 --> 06:05:17,961
as the federal money is used up

10612
06:05:17,961 --> 06:05:18,494
into next year.

10613
06:05:18,494 --> 06:05:19,529
But that is

10614
06:05:19,529 --> 06:05:21,163
that is how we are going

10615
06:05:21,163 --> 06:05:24,299
transition and we see next year

10616
06:05:24,299 --> 06:05:26,202
as a transition point to get

10617
06:05:26,202 --> 06:05:27,904
back to the other programs that

10618
06:05:27,904 --> 06:05:30,406
our community needs so quick

10619
06:05:30,406 --> 06:05:30,639
produce and preserve affordable

10620
06:05:30,639 --> 06:05:31,374
housing.

10621
06:05:31,374 --> 06:05:32,308
>> Mayor Nirenberg: I have a

10622
06:05:32,308 --> 06:05:33,209
question about the federal

10623
06:05:33,209 --> 06:05:34,911
programs in just a second, but

10624
06:05:34,911 --> 06:05:37,513
on the point of the navigators,

10625
06:05:37,513 --> 06:05:38,581
if anybody here is not -- has

10626
06:05:38,581 --> 06:05:39,682
not gone to visit and toured

10627
06:05:39,682 --> 06:05:41,250
that facility at the library to

10628
06:05:41,250 --> 06:05:43,919
see the work those folks are

10629
06:05:43,919 --> 06:05:46,919
doing it is really incredible.

10630
06:05:47,560 --> 06:05:48,925
, you know, one on one coaching

10631
06:05:48,925 --> 06:05:50,226
and in take and being able to

10632
06:05:50,226 --> 06:05:51,930
filter people into the

10633
06:05:51,930 --> 06:05:52,995
assistance programs we have,

10634
06:05:52,995 --> 06:05:54,597
whether they are in housing or

10635
06:05:54,597 --> 06:05:55,465
something else, they have done

10636
06:05:55,465 --> 06:05:57,133
really great work.

10637
06:05:57,133 --> 06:05:59,350
And to that point a little bit

10638
06:05:59,350 --> 06:06:00,200
of an aside, erik, we talked

10639
06:06:00,200 --> 06:06:02,705
about the fact a lot of those

10640
06:06:02,705 --> 06:06:05,105
folks are on contract.

10641
06:06:05,341 --> 06:06:07,343
They are, as a result of very

10642
06:06:07,343 --> 06:06:09,120
short-term training now have

10643
06:06:09,120 --> 06:06:10,947
marketable professional skills.

10644
06:06:10,947 --> 06:06:12,415
We had discussed what kind of

10645
06:06:12,415 --> 06:06:13,782
certification or something we

10646
06:06:13,782 --> 06:06:15,685
could provide for those folks

10647
06:06:15,685 --> 06:06:17,253
who MAY not continue past the

10648
06:06:17,253 --> 06:06:18,454
pandemic crisis management, they

10649
06:06:18,454 --> 06:06:19,155
would have a marketable

10650
06:06:19,155 --> 06:06:21,390
professional skill that they

10651
06:06:21,390 --> 06:06:21,557
could take to another career.

10652
06:06:21,557 --> 06:06:23,557
Have

10653
06:06:24,260 --> 06:06:27,329
have you all gotten any farther

10654
06:06:27,329 --> 06:06:29,329
on that?

10655
06:06:29,766 --> 06:06:32,167
>> we are going start working

10656
06:06:32,167 --> 06:06:33,703
with hr on that, but we have

10657
06:06:33,703 --> 06:06:34,304
talked about what we could do

10658
06:06:34,304 --> 06:06:36,304
for those.

10659
06:06:36,973 --> 06:06:38,374
We have had some people actually

10660
06:06:38,374 --> 06:06:40,343
leave the temporary jobs because

10661
06:06:40,343 --> 06:06:41,711
they found permanent positions,

10662
06:06:41,711 --> 06:06:43,313
so we are talking about what

10663
06:06:43,313 --> 06:06:44,714
kind of certificate and hr is

10664
06:06:44,714 --> 06:06:44,914
going to be helping with us

10665
06:06:44,914 --> 06:06:45,548
that.

10666
06:06:45,548 --> 06:06:47,548
>> Mayor Nirenberg: okay.

10667
06:06:47,850 --> 06:06:49,752
Because I assume part of their

10668
06:06:49,752 --> 06:06:52,210
intake, just for landing that

10669
06:06:52,210 --> 06:06:53,656
contract position was security,

10670
06:06:53,656 --> 06:06:54,757
training, pci training, that

10671
06:06:54,757 --> 06:06:57,627
sort of thing, which they can

10672
06:06:57,627 --> 06:06:59,128
take to another career.

10673
06:06:59,128 --> 06:06:59,795
Back on the federal programs,

10674
06:06:59,795 --> 06:07:02,532
did you want to add.

10675
06:07:02,532 --> 06:07:04,000
>> I did want to add because we

10676
06:07:04,000 --> 06:07:04,968
have several cocouncilmembers

10677
06:07:04,968 --> 06:07:06,302
who haven't had the opportunity

10678
06:07:06,302 --> 06:07:07,403
to go to the library and see our

10679
06:07:07,403 --> 06:07:09,403
staff this action.

10680
06:07:10,373 --> 06:07:11,708
And so if somebody goes to a

10681
06:07:11,708 --> 06:07:13,243
benefits navigator, we will do

10682
06:07:13,243 --> 06:07:14,811
an assessment of them, and we

10683
06:07:14,811 --> 06:07:16,980
will look to see what programs

10684
06:07:16,980 --> 06:07:18,981
they MAY qualify, and often

10685
06:07:18,981 --> 06:07:21,284
times someone who goes into the

10686
06:07:21,284 --> 06:07:22,452
center will leave with snap

10687
06:07:22,452 --> 06:07:24,870
benefits, other local or state

10688
06:07:24,870 --> 06:07:25,788
benefits that they didn't know

10689
06:07:25,788 --> 06:07:28,570
they qualified for, so when we

10690
06:07:28,570 --> 06:07:29,959
talk about transitioning it is

10691
06:07:29,959 --> 06:07:32,359
about reallocating where they

10692
06:07:32,695 --> 06:07:34,300
put their funding resources.

10693
06:07:34,300 --> 06:07:35,698
And if they didn't know that

10694
06:07:35,698 --> 06:07:39,298
they qualified for snap, if they

10695
06:07:39,602 --> 06:07:40,937
didn't know they qualified for

10696
06:07:40,937 --> 06:07:42,305
subsidized day-care, we are able

10697
06:07:42,305 --> 06:07:45,740
to help offset that cost so they

10698
06:07:45,740 --> 06:07:45,308
can put that funding towards

10699
06:07:45,308 --> 06:07:47,308
housing.

10700
06:07:48,378 --> 06:07:51,181
i think during the pandemic we

10701
06:07:51,181 --> 06:07:53,450
really undervalued that tool,

10702
06:07:53,450 --> 06:07:56,352
having that handholding and that

10703
06:07:56,352 --> 06:07:57,553
counseling, and during the

10704
06:07:57,553 --> 06:08:00,223
event, we had so many people

10705
06:08:00,223 --> 06:08:01,591
call us because they needed

10706
06:08:01,591 --> 06:08:02,892
water and as a result of that,

10707
06:08:02,892 --> 06:08:04,427
the snow event, we were able to

10708
06:08:04,427 --> 06:08:06,620
help them so it is going to be a

10709
06:08:06,620 --> 06:08:06,930
great opportunity.. For us to

10710
06:08:06,930 --> 06:08:08,640
transition and I think it is

10711
06:08:08,640 --> 06:08:08,998
going to be smooth, especially

10712
06:08:08,998 --> 06:08:11,668
with the state program, they

10713
06:08:11,668 --> 06:08:13,336
will be continuing for the next

10714
06:08:13,336 --> 06:08:14,671
couple of months 0 as well.

10715
06:08:14,671 --> 06:08:16,473
>> Mayor Nirenberg: it is a

10716
06:08:16,473 --> 06:08:17,274
similar model to the

10717
06:08:17,274 --> 06:08:17,974
houseworkers and learning the

10718
06:08:17,974 --> 06:08:19,242
same skills.

10719
06:08:19,242 --> 06:08:22,645
Back on the federal programs, I

10720
06:08:22,645 --> 06:08:24,514
am hearing that, and obviously I

10721
06:08:24,514 --> 06:08:26,883
think there is tremendous

10722
06:08:26,883 --> 06:08:27,851
support and consensus on

10723
06:08:27,851 --> 06:08:30,251
rehabilitation programs and our

10724
06:08:30,487 --> 06:08:32,289
need to start augmenting those.

10725
06:08:32,289 --> 06:08:34,570
I am hearing there is an

10726
06:08:34,570 --> 06:08:35,759
obstacle for a lot of applicants

10727
06:08:35,759 --> 06:08:37,661
in terms of title clearance and

10728
06:08:37,661 --> 06:08:39,529
clouded titles.

10729
06:08:39,529 --> 06:08:40,964
Could you speak to that?

10730
06:08:40,964 --> 06:08:42,320
And if there are enough

10731
06:08:42,320 --> 06:08:42,332
resources for us in title

10732
06:08:42,332 --> 06:08:43,466
clearance?

10733
06:08:43,466 --> 06:08:45,466
>> sure.

10734
06:08:46,569 --> 06:08:46,803
We do have a title clearance

10735
06:08:46,803 --> 06:08:48,803
program.

10736
06:08:50,400 --> 06:08:50,240
I believe it is in our budget as

10737
06:08:50,240 --> 06:08:51,541
well.

10738
06:08:51,541 --> 06:08:54,178
You see some of the amount

10739
06:08:54,178 --> 06:08:56,379
allocated for that, and so what

10740
06:08:56,379 --> 06:09:00,150
we do is we have outsourced some

10741
06:09:00,150 --> 06:09:01,652
of this work with both utsa and

10742
06:09:01,652 --> 06:09:03,320
a nonprofit organization to

10743
06:09:03,320 --> 06:09:04,288
actually help families address

10744
06:09:04,288 --> 06:09:06,288
that issue.

10745
06:09:07,230 --> 06:09:08,225
Many times it is a legal issue,

10746
06:09:08,225 --> 06:09:10,594
because eventually you have to

10747
06:09:10,594 --> 06:09:14,194
file a legal document, but we

10748
06:09:14,197 --> 06:09:15,398
guide them through the rose and

10749
06:09:15,398 --> 06:09:16,333
even st. Mary's has a clinic

10750
06:09:16,333 --> 06:09:19,202
that helps us address that.

10751
06:09:19,202 --> 06:09:21,372
So when we do find a client that

10752
06:09:21,372 --> 06:09:23,773
cops for minor repair that they

10753
06:09:23,773 --> 06:09:25,442
don't have clear title, we help

10754
06:09:25,442 --> 06:09:27,378
direct them to the title

10755
06:09:27,378 --> 06:09:28,345
clearance program so that they

10756
06:09:28,345 --> 06:09:29,880
can come back and take advantage

10757
06:09:29,880 --> 06:09:32,899
of that, so the title clearance

10758
06:09:32,899 --> 06:09:33,784
is increasing and will continue

10759
06:09:33,784 --> 06:09:34,170
to help clients address those

10760
06:09:34,170 --> 06:09:34,751
issues.

10761
06:09:34,751 --> 06:09:35,185
>> Mayor Nirenberg: great.

10762
06:09:35,185 --> 06:09:36,920
Okay.

10763
06:09:36,920 --> 06:09:38,656
I just would like us to monitor

10764
06:09:38,656 --> 06:09:40,958
that, because I am hearing there

10765
06:09:40,958 --> 06:09:42,250
is an issue there in terms of

10766
06:09:42,250 --> 06:09:43,326
title clearance for a lot of

10767
06:09:43,326 --> 06:09:45,326
those applicants.

10768
06:09:45,362 --> 06:09:48,299
Last question is, and there is

10769
06:09:48,299 --> 06:09:51,868
beyond the the debate of any of

10770
06:09:51,868 --> 06:09:54,504
the pfc or other programs that

10771
06:09:54,504 --> 06:09:55,940
we use to create affordable

10772
06:09:55,940 --> 06:09:58,742
housing units here in our city.

10773
06:09:58,742 --> 06:10:00,677
We know that there is a

10774
06:10:00,677 --> 06:10:02,113
tremendous number of multifamily

10775
06:10:02,113 --> 06:10:03,380
developments that have

10776
06:10:03,380 --> 06:10:05,115
affordability built in.

10777
06:10:05,115 --> 06:10:06,450
There are subsidized programs

10778
06:10:06,450 --> 06:10:09,820
that MAY be coming towards the

10779
06:10:09,820 --> 06:10:10,654
end of their affordability

10780
06:10:10,654 --> 06:10:12,654
program life.

10781
06:10:12,823 --> 06:10:14,725
My understanding is that there

10782
06:10:14,725 --> 06:10:15,592
-- before -- the home initiative

10783
06:10:15,592 --> 06:10:17,161
has identified some

10784
06:10:17,161 --> 06:10:18,695
recommendations to help us deal

10785
06:10:18,695 --> 06:10:20,264
with that to preserve that

10786
06:10:20,264 --> 06:10:21,665
affordable housing stock.

10787
06:10:21,665 --> 06:10:23,567
Can you talk about that, the

10788
06:10:23,567 --> 06:10:25,200
housing preservation network and

10789
06:10:25,200 --> 06:10:25,202
you we are going to implement

10790
06:10:25,202 --> 06:10:26,303
that?

10791
06:10:26,303 --> 06:10:28,303
>> yes.

10792
06:10:28,605 --> 06:10:30,407
So under the anti-displacement

10793
06:10:30,407 --> 06:10:33,407
agenda, which is the for

10794
06:10:35,478 --> 06:10:35,568
everyone home, the housing

10795
06:10:35,568 --> 06:10:37,515
preservation network would work

10796
06:10:37,515 --> 06:10:38,882
and focus on those -- it is

10797
06:10:38,882 --> 06:10:40,350
essentially affordability

10798
06:10:40,350 --> 06:10:41,585
covenants, typically when

10799
06:10:41,585 --> 06:10:44,388
someone receives or a developer

10800
06:10:44,388 --> 06:10:47,388
receives a subsidy they have 15,

10801
06:10:50,480 --> 06:10:50,567
20, 30 years where they are

10802
06:10:50,567 --> 06:10:50,656
required to keep the units that

10803
06:10:50,656 --> 06:10:53,290
we subsidize affordable, and so

10804
06:10:53,290 --> 06:10:54,932
after a certain period of time,

10805
06:10:54,932 --> 06:10:55,266
the affordability period goes

10806
06:10:55,266 --> 06:10:57,266
away.

10807
06:10:58,135 --> 06:10:59,670
And so we have identified how

10808
06:10:59,670 --> 06:11:01,438
many units over the next five

10809
06:11:01,438 --> 06:11:03,373
years are going to have that

10810
06:11:03,373 --> 06:11:05,373
affordability covenant expiring.

10811
06:11:05,575 --> 06:11:08,245
So our approach is, to use some

10812
06:11:08,245 --> 06:11:10,247
of the gap funding you see here

10813
06:11:10,247 --> 06:11:12,682
to have those units come back,

10814
06:11:12,682 --> 06:11:14,385
get some rehab, have the

10815
06:11:14,385 --> 06:11:16,385
affordability covenant extended.

10816
06:11:16,854 --> 06:11:18,856
And so the housing preservation

10817
06:11:18,856 --> 06:11:21,458
network would actively track the

10818
06:11:21,458 --> 06:11:22,659
data, track the units and make

10819
06:11:22,659 --> 06:11:25,830
sure that we were targeting the

10820
06:11:25,830 --> 06:11:27,297
funding that we had, be it from

10821
06:11:27,297 --> 06:11:30,297
our budget, perhaps after we

10822
06:11:30,367 --> 06:11:31,668
have a housing bump program,

10823
06:11:31,668 --> 06:11:33,170
targeting some of that funding

10824
06:11:33,170 --> 06:11:35,740
as well, so that we can have

10825
06:11:35,740 --> 06:11:38,442
those units that are currently

10826
06:11:38,442 --> 06:11:39,777
affordable remain affordable

10827
06:11:39,777 --> 06:11:40,911
beyond the expiration of the

10828
06:11:40,911 --> 06:11:42,273
affordability covenant, and

10829
06:11:42,273 --> 06:11:44,582
that's part of what the housing

10830
06:11:44,582 --> 06:11:45,883
preservation met work would do.

10831
06:11:45,883 --> 06:11:46,283
They wouldn't just focus on

10832
06:11:46,283 --> 06:11:47,484
that.

10833
06:11:47,484 --> 06:11:49,530
They would also look at

10834
06:11:49,530 --> 06:11:50,154
preservation of homeowner ship

10835
06:11:50,154 --> 06:11:52,154
units as well.

10836
06:11:52,155 --> 06:11:53,825
But a big focus would be those

10837
06:11:53,825 --> 06:11:55,693
rental units where the covenant

10838
06:11:55,693 --> 06:11:56,427
is going to expire over the next

10839
06:11:56,427 --> 06:11:57,328
five years.

10840
06:11:57,328 --> 06:11:59,163
>> Mayor Nirenberg: that seems

10841
06:11:59,163 --> 06:12:00,731
like it could be the highest

10842
06:12:00,731 --> 06:12:03,731
impact in extremely low hanging

10843
06:12:03,734 --> 06:12:05,603
fruit for us to preserve

10844
06:12:05,603 --> 06:12:06,304
housing.

10845
06:12:06,304 --> 06:12:08,239
So councilmember rocha garcia

10846
06:12:08,239 --> 06:12:10,239
rothank you, mayor.

10847
06:12:10,307 --> 06:12:13,307
Thank you, I appreciate your

10848
06:12:13,311 --> 06:12:15,179
update.. Since we are on that

10849
06:12:15,179 --> 06:12:16,113
subject, and brought that home,

10850
06:12:16,113 --> 06:12:16,814
there are detailed

10851
06:12:16,814 --> 06:12:18,582
implementation plans.

10852
06:12:18,582 --> 06:12:21,752
On ape frill third we got an

10853
06:12:21,752 --> 06:12:23,200
update from nhsd about a draft

10854
06:12:23,200 --> 06:12:24,880
report, 70 plus page report.

10855
06:12:24,880 --> 06:12:26,190
Has that been final life.

10856
06:12:26,190 --> 06:12:27,926
>> it was drafted at the time we

10857
06:12:27,926 --> 06:12:28,893
received the update in APRIL..

10858
06:12:28,893 --> 06:12:29,293
I haven't seen it.

10859
06:12:29,293 --> 06:12:30,762
Do you have that?

10860
06:12:30,762 --> 06:12:32,762
>> yes.

10861
06:12:38,502 --> 06:12:38,869
The growing together report has

10862
06:12:38,869 --> 06:12:39,337
been finalized.

10863
06:12:39,337 --> 06:12:41,337
>> Rocha Garcia: okay.

10864
06:12:42,873 --> 06:12:43,700
>> [Indiscernible] -- my draft

10865
06:12:43,700 --> 06:12:44,409
--

10866
06:12:44,409 --> 06:12:45,143
>> Rocha Garcia: oh, that's

10867
06:12:45,143 --> 06:12:45,343
awesome.

10868
06:12:45,343 --> 06:12:47,343
Good.

10869
06:12:49,446 --> 06:12:49,880
>> so -- [Indiscernible] Give

10870
06:12:49,880 --> 06:12:50,949
this to you.

10871
06:12:50,949 --> 06:12:51,382
But the document itself is

10872
06:12:51,382 --> 06:12:53,382
final.

10873
06:12:55,119 --> 06:12:56,420
We just need to get the draft

10874
06:12:56,420 --> 06:12:59,256
local out of it but it has been

10875
06:12:59,256 --> 06:13:00,658
finished and then the two

10876
06:13:00,658 --> 06:13:02,493
implementation strategies are

10877
06:13:02,493 --> 06:13:04,610
the ones to be developed that

10878
06:13:04,610 --> 06:13:05,563
will be final

10879
06:13:05,563 --> 06:13:05,963
finalized toward the end

10880
06:13:05,963 --> 06:13:07,963
of SEPTEMBER.

10881
06:13:08,320 --> 06:13:09,834
>> thank you, I was talking to a

10882
06:13:09,834 --> 06:13:10,568
reporter last night about

10883
06:13:10,568 --> 06:13:12,437
affordable housing and I

10884
06:13:12,437 --> 06:13:13,905
mentioned the 70 plus page

10885
06:13:13,905 --> 06:13:15,273
report and I thought I missed it

10886
06:13:15,273 --> 06:13:17,475
and I thought I would ask about

10887
06:13:17,475 --> 06:13:18,776
it since it came up today.

10888
06:13:18,776 --> 06:13:19,844
Do we have any update?

10889
06:13:19,844 --> 06:13:22,130
0 I don't remember what the last

10890
06:13:22,130 --> 06:13:23,948
-- I think I asked erik walsh

10891
06:13:23,948 --> 06:13:25,349
this but the chief housing

10892
06:13:25,349 --> 06:13:26,150
officer, what are we doing with

10893
06:13:26,150 --> 06:13:28,520
that position?

10894
06:13:28,520 --> 06:13:30,452
>> that position is currently

10895
06:13:31,723 --> 06:13:32,323
being advertised and closes next

10896
06:13:32,323 --> 06:13:33,342
week?

10897
06:13:33,342 --> 06:13:33,447
Yes.

10898
06:13:33,447 --> 06:13:34,224
Next week.

10899
06:13:34,224 --> 06:13:35,827
>> Rocha Garcia: okay.

10900
06:13:35,827 --> 06:13:37,827
thank you, erik.

10901
06:13:38,363 --> 06:13:39,563
And by the way, beto, it was

10902
06:13:39,563 --> 06:13:40,498
late last night when I was

10903
06:13:40,498 --> 06:13:42,767
talking to the reporter.

10904
06:13:42,767 --> 06:13:44,202
I couldn't remember what the

10905
06:13:44,202 --> 06:13:46,270
acronym for ship was so I am

10906
06:13:46,270 --> 06:13:46,538
glad you have it altogether for

10907
06:13:46,538 --> 06:13:47,938
us.

10908
06:13:47,938 --> 06:13:50,241
I have a question specifically

10909
06:13:50,241 --> 06:13:50,508
on owner occupied rehab

10910
06:13:50,508 --> 06:13:52,508
strategy.

10911
06:13:54,112 --> 06:13:55,180
We have a 2.5 increase, and I

10912
06:13:55,180 --> 06:13:57,114
love that, thank you so much.

10913
06:13:57,114 --> 06:13:57,448
That is something that is very

10914
06:13:57,448 --> 06:13:58,583
useful.

10915
06:13:58,583 --> 06:14:01,583
And under one roof program,

10916
06:14:02,860 --> 06:14:03,540
there is no change, so I don't

10917
06:14:03,540 --> 06:14:03,354
know if there is still an

10918
06:14:03,354 --> 06:14:05,354
opportunity.

10919
06:14:06,324 --> 06:14:07,759
There is only an 800,000 in

10920
06:14:07,759 --> 06:14:09,760
general change in our trial

10921
06:14:09,760 --> 06:14:10,528
budget, and I understand about

10922
06:14:10,528 --> 06:14:12,463
parities and having to shift

10923
06:14:12,463 --> 06:14:16,630
around but those are things that

10924
06:14:16,468 --> 06:14:18,200
our neighborhood uses and -- I

10925
06:14:18,200 --> 06:14:21,873
am happy in the minor repair is

10926
06:14:21,873 --> 06:14:22,741
going up from 1.4, but I am also

10927
06:14:22,741 --> 06:14:25,141
concerned you just mentioned

10928
06:14:26,430 --> 06:14:27,144
that during the covid, the legal

10929
06:14:27,144 --> 06:14:28,413
services, the right to counsel,

10930
06:14:28,413 --> 06:14:30,548
I think you said that it was one

10931
06:14:30,548 --> 06:14:33,351
of the highest use programs and

10932
06:14:33,351 --> 06:14:35,190
it is being reduced by 300,000.

10933
06:14:35,190 --> 06:14:35,820
Can you help me understand why?

10934
06:14:35,820 --> 06:14:37,388
>> sure.

10935
06:14:37,388 --> 06:14:38,890
When it comes to the reduction,

10936
06:14:38,890 --> 06:14:41,192
the reduction actually is

10937
06:14:41,192 --> 06:14:44,192
because of the equipment, the

10938
06:14:44,329 --> 06:14:45,630
actual legal kiosk, so it is the

10939
06:14:45,630 --> 06:14:47,933
equipment we are in the process

10940
06:14:47,933 --> 06:14:49,333
of acquiring that will be in

10941
06:14:49,333 --> 06:14:50,301
place before the end of this

10942
06:14:50,301 --> 06:14:52,301
fiscal year.

10943
06:14:52,470 --> 06:14:53,772
And so it was a one-time

10944
06:14:53,772 --> 06:14:55,720
capital -- you know, we had to

10945
06:14:55,720 --> 06:14:56,140
guy units and so that is why

10946
06:14:56,140 --> 06:14:57,909
there is a reduction because we

10947
06:14:57,909 --> 06:14:58,142
don't need to buy the units

10948
06:14:58,142 --> 06:14:59,578
again.

10949
06:14:59,578 --> 06:15:02,513
So that ask why you see the

10950
06:15:02,513 --> 06:15:04,282
reduction, but the services

10951
06:15:04,282 --> 06:15:05,884
themselves, the legal aid kind

10952
06:15:05,884 --> 06:15:08,190
of attorneys that are going to

10953
06:15:08,190 --> 06:15:09,854
be providing the service through

10954
06:15:09,854 --> 06:15:10,421
the technology are what we are

10955
06:15:10,421 --> 06:15:11,623
continuing to fund.

10956
06:15:11,623 --> 06:15:11,890
>> Rocha Garcia: okay.

10957
06:15:11,890 --> 06:15:12,991
Wonderful.

10958
06:15:12,991 --> 06:15:14,991
Thank you.

10959
06:15:15,260 --> 06:15:16,940
I was worried about that.

10960
06:15:16,940 --> 06:15:16,695
And then how do we connect?

10961
06:15:16,695 --> 06:15:17,829
Thank you.

10962
06:15:17,829 --> 06:15:21,429
I know you personally came out

10963
06:15:21,566 --> 06:15:22,734
to district 4 to help some folks

10964
06:15:22,734 --> 06:15:25,734
sign up for different services.

10965
06:15:25,937 --> 06:15:27,305
How do we connect other -- the

10966
06:15:27,305 --> 06:15:29,775
city's other programs as you

10967
06:15:29,775 --> 06:15:30,410
give away information on your

10968
06:15:30,410 --> 06:15:32,410
programs.

10969
06:15:32,143 --> 06:15:32,911
>> do you give ready to work

10970
06:15:32,911 --> 06:15:34,545
information?

10971
06:15:34,545 --> 06:15:36,800
Well, actually it is train for

10972
06:15:36,800 --> 06:15:38,830
jobs sa or help me understand

10973
06:15:38,830 --> 06:15:38,316
how you complete the full

10974
06:15:38,316 --> 06:15:40,316
package.

10975
06:15:43,588 --> 06:15:45,690
>> so the -- during the pandemic

10976
06:15:45,690 --> 06:15:46,992
have been -- and alex.

10977
06:15:46,992 --> 06:15:49,427
Every month I think we visit

10978
06:15:49,427 --> 06:15:51,620
about how our teams are

10979
06:15:51,620 --> 06:15:53,462
connecting clients, and we

10980
06:15:53,632 --> 06:15:56,435
continue to do all of that.

10981
06:15:56,435 --> 06:15:57,836
Every week we have the cross

10982
06:15:57,836 --> 06:16:00,236
referral documents we share

10983
06:16:00,572 --> 06:16:02,374
between our departments, and we

10984
06:16:02,374 --> 06:16:04,243
send all of the client that

10985
06:16:04,243 --> 06:16:06,611
apply for e has been that

10986
06:16:06,611 --> 06:16:08,680
indicate these knees additional

10987
06:16:08,680 --> 06:16:10,516
benefits.. And they send us a

10988
06:16:10,516 --> 06:16:12,350
report back as to how many

10989
06:16:12,350 --> 06:16:12,951
clients were served, was it one

10990
06:16:12,951 --> 06:16:13,651
contact?

10991
06:16:13,651 --> 06:16:14,786
Two contacts?

10992
06:16:14,786 --> 06:16:16,188
So we are sharing all of that

10993
06:16:16,188 --> 06:16:16,588
information, sharing our

10994
06:16:16,588 --> 06:16:18,588
clients.

10995
06:16:18,990 --> 06:16:21,590
All of the clients get the

10996
06:16:21,590 --> 06:16:22,527
information where -- we are

10997
06:16:22,527 --> 06:16:24,395
texting, for example, the sa

10998
06:16:24,395 --> 06:16:27,666
speak up survey is going to go

10999
06:16:27,666 --> 06:16:30,100
to all of the ehab clients, even

11000
06:16:30,100 --> 06:16:31,169
all of the landlords so we send

11001
06:16:31,169 --> 06:16:33,204
all of the information and push

11002
06:16:33,204 --> 06:16:34,906
it out like that, so both the

11003
06:16:34,906 --> 06:16:35,740
workforce programs got the

11004
06:16:35,740 --> 06:16:37,740
pushout as well.

11005
06:16:38,100 --> 06:16:38,243
And we continue to refer

11006
06:16:38,243 --> 06:16:40,243
clients.

11007
06:16:40,546 --> 06:16:42,614
Our benefit and a half bears at

11008
06:16:42,614 --> 06:16:44,820
the hs are trained for all of

11009
06:16:44,820 --> 06:16:45,250
these benefits as well as the

11010
06:16:45,250 --> 06:16:47,719
federal programs so every week

11011
06:16:47,719 --> 06:16:49,554
we update our scripts for the

11012
06:16:49,554 --> 06:16:51,189
call centers and the benefit

11013
06:16:51,189 --> 06:16:52,624
navigators and we just continue

11014
06:16:52,624 --> 06:16:53,759
all of that coronation.

11015
06:16:53,759 --> 06:16:56,159
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you.

11016
06:16:56,194 --> 06:16:58,290
>> and I want to add, the I am

11017
06:16:58,290 --> 06:16:59,898
surprised this wasn't mention.

11018
06:16:59,898 --> 06:17:01,330
We work with our department

11019
06:17:01,330 --> 06:17:03,670
partners weekly and we are

11020
06:17:03,670 --> 06:17:04,436
working to see how with we can

11021
06:17:04,436 --> 06:17:05,103
bring the benefit navigators on

11022
06:17:05,103 --> 06:17:07,103
the road.

11023
06:17:07,505 --> 06:17:09,410
So when working each of our

11024
06:17:09,410 --> 06:17:10,420
councilmembers, you know, what

11025
06:17:10,420 --> 06:17:10,175
neighborhoods would you like the

11026
06:17:10,175 --> 06:17:11,509
we

11027
06:17:11,509 --> 06:17:12,770
benefit and a half bears to go

11028
06:17:12,770 --> 06:17:13,912
into?

11029
06:17:13,912 --> 06:17:16,247
And maybe that's where we add,

11030
06:17:16,247 --> 06:17:17,783
we identify where people aren't

11031
06:17:17,783 --> 06:17:18,984
applying for that homestead

11032
06:17:18,984 --> 06:17:20,786
exemption and also asking the

11033
06:17:20,786 --> 06:17:23,870
housing and benefits navigators

11034
06:17:23,870 --> 06:17:25,290
to ask those DECEMBER and help

11035
06:17:25,290 --> 06:17:26,825
people apply for that.

11036
06:17:26,825 --> 06:17:28,360
We are.. Working on that

11037
06:17:28,360 --> 06:17:29,661
program to see how we can bring

11038
06:17:29,661 --> 06:17:31,397
them out into the neighborhood.

11039
06:17:31,397 --> 06:17:33,164
>> the other bees is how do we

11040
06:17:33,164 --> 06:17:33,798
tie the community health workers

11041
06:17:33,798 --> 06:17:35,798
into that?

11042
06:17:35,834 --> 06:17:37,350
So there are a lot of efforts

11043
06:17:37,350 --> 06:17:37,969
that are --

11044
06:17:37,969 --> 06:17:39,772
>> Rocha Garcia: thank you.

11045
06:17:39,772 --> 06:17:40,705
Thank you, mayor.

11046
06:17:40,705 --> 06:17:43,105
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

11047
06:17:43,775 --> 06:17:44,542
councilmember rocha garcia.

11048
06:17:44,542 --> 06:17:46,211
Councilmember pelaez.

11049
06:17:46,211 --> 06:17:47,613
>> Pelaez: their, mayor.

11050
06:17:47,613 --> 06:17:47,812
there are two things I want to

11051
06:17:47,812 --> 06:17:49,148
cover.

11052
06:17:49,148 --> 06:17:50,949
One you heard me talk over and

11053
06:17:50,949 --> 06:17:52,184
over again -- by the way,

11054
06:17:52,184 --> 06:17:53,819
excellent presentation -- about

11055
06:17:53,819 --> 06:17:54,786
these owner 0 occupied

11056
06:17:54,786 --> 06:17:56,555
rehabilitation strategies, the

11057
06:17:56,555 --> 06:17:58,590
under one roof repair, but when

11058
06:17:58,590 --> 06:18:00,992
it relates to us offering to pay

11059
06:18:00,992 --> 06:18:03,950
for these things, right, the

11060
06:18:03,950 --> 06:18:04,620
folks who need them the most and

11061
06:18:04,620 --> 06:18:05,497
convince you had doing a great

11062
06:18:05,497 --> 06:18:07,900
job and paying the you know, for

11063
06:18:07,900 --> 06:18:10,900
these repairs that need to

11064
06:18:11,690 --> 06:18:12,171
happen, are we verifying whether

11065
06:18:12,171 --> 06:18:14,806
or not insurance ought to be

11066
06:18:14,806 --> 06:18:16,107
paying for this versus us is and

11067
06:18:16,107 --> 06:18:16,442
to what extent are we asking and

11068
06:18:16,442 --> 06:18:17,409
doing?

11069
06:18:17,409 --> 06:18:18,143
We are still doing that, right?

11070
06:18:18,143 --> 06:18:20,143
>> yes.

11071
06:18:21,446 --> 06:18:23,349
That's part of our -- sop

11072
06:18:23,349 --> 06:18:24,820
standard operating procedures.

11073
06:18:24,820 --> 06:18:24,983
>> Pelaez: okay.

11074
06:18:24,983 --> 06:18:27,353
>> especially for the roof

11075
06:18:27,353 --> 06:18:28,853
programs we do that.

11076
06:18:28,853 --> 06:18:30,722
One of the requirements after is

11077
06:18:30,722 --> 06:18:32,524
that they have updated insurance

11078
06:18:32,524 --> 06:18:32,725
as well pelaez all right.

11079
06:18:32,725 --> 06:18:33,259
Great.

11080
06:18:33,259 --> 06:18:35,259
>> perfect.

11081
06:18:35,527 --> 06:18:36,829
Thank you.

11082
06:18:36,829 --> 06:18:39,640
And then, you know, on the

11083
06:18:39,640 --> 06:18:40,198
northside, one of our

11084
06:18:40,198 --> 06:18:41,300
difficulties and, joan, I

11085
06:18:41,300 --> 06:18:43,602
imagine you had the same

11086
06:18:43,602 --> 06:18:44,904
difficulty when we talk about

11087
06:18:44,904 --> 06:18:45,170
affordable housing people flip

11088
06:18:45,170 --> 06:18:47,170
out.

11089
06:18:47,406 --> 06:18:48,840
They don't want those people

11090
06:18:48,840 --> 06:18:49,809
anywhere near their houses.

11091
06:18:49,809 --> 06:18:50,876
They use those words and

11092
06:18:50,876 --> 06:18:52,677
sometimes they will even come

11093
06:18:52,677 --> 06:18:53,979
out and tell you, I don't want

11094
06:18:53,979 --> 06:18:56,979
the poors anywhere near me.

11095
06:18:57,215 --> 06:18:58,817
You are ruining my neighborhood

11096
06:18:58,817 --> 06:19:00,552
a you know, I hate developers.

11097
06:19:00,552 --> 06:19:02,870
You know, despite the fact they

11098
06:19:02,870 --> 06:19:03,880
all live in homes that were

11099
06:19:03,880 --> 06:19:05,880
developed.

11100
06:19:05,324 --> 06:19:06,892
but I have -- and there is no

11101
06:19:06,892 --> 06:19:09,950
talk aing them out of it.

11102
06:19:09,950 --> 06:19:10,396
In fact, some of these

11103
06:19:10,396 --> 06:19:11,697
affordable projects, some of the

11104
06:19:11,697 --> 06:19:12,831
objections were, no, no, if you

11105
06:19:12,831 --> 06:19:15,831
put the affordable projects up

11106
06:19:16,102 --> 06:19:17,770
here, then you take away value

11107
06:19:17,770 --> 06:19:19,572
from our school districts and

11108
06:19:19,572 --> 06:19:23,750
you sending kids to our school

11109
06:19:23,750 --> 06:19:24,676
for free and it stretches you

11110
06:19:24,676 --> 06:19:26,178
know, the budgets of these

11111
06:19:26,178 --> 06:19:27,380
schools and then you lower the

11112
06:19:27,380 --> 06:19:28,313
quality.

11113
06:19:28,313 --> 06:19:30,716
Anyway, I think I have done a

11114
06:19:30,716 --> 06:19:33,118
pretty good job, joan, I think

11115
06:19:33,118 --> 06:19:36,756
you have done a pretty good job

11116
06:19:36,756 --> 06:19:39,580
of resisting that foolishness,

11117
06:19:39,580 --> 06:19:41,930
and the issue is that we also

11118
06:19:41,930 --> 06:19:43,262
struggle with the tact that it

11119
06:19:43,262 --> 06:19:45,664
is so expensive now to buy land

11120
06:19:45,664 --> 06:19:47,199
or to build a new house, and

11121
06:19:47,199 --> 06:19:48,401
what we are seeing ask urban

11122
06:19:48,401 --> 06:19:49,702
sprawl, because it is cheaper to

11123
06:19:49,702 --> 06:19:52,471
build further and further from

11124
06:19:52,471 --> 06:19:55,140
the urban center than it is to

11125
06:19:55,140 --> 06:19:57,977
build near your existing appeal,

11126
06:19:57,977 --> 06:19:59,478
right, or your preferred school

11127
06:19:59,478 --> 06:20:00,912
or your -- or where your job s

11128
06:20:00,912 --> 06:20:02,715
and the mayor and I were talking

11129
06:20:02,715 --> 06:20:04,183
and I think you still agree with

11130
06:20:04,183 --> 06:20:06,552
me that we need figure out a way

11131
06:20:06,552 --> 06:20:08,988
to increase housing stock of

11132
06:20:08,988 --> 06:20:09,488
every, you know, -- of every

11133
06:20:09,488 --> 06:20:11,488
category.

11134
06:20:13,392 --> 06:20:15,627
I personally don't want to see

11135
06:20:15,627 --> 06:20:17,863
more mcmansions on the north

11136
06:20:17,863 --> 06:20:19,265
side when we could entice

11137
06:20:19,265 --> 06:20:21,665
professionals with good product

11138
06:20:21,701 --> 06:20:23,936
that is smaller that requires

11139
06:20:23,936 --> 06:20:26,336
less impervious cover, that

11140
06:20:26,839 --> 06:20:27,139
requires less energy to cool and

11141
06:20:27,139 --> 06:20:29,139
maintain.

11142
06:20:30,710 --> 06:20:32,611
You know, I am looking for more

11143
06:20:32,611 --> 06:20:33,779
apartments [Indiscernible] Nurse

11144
06:20:33,779 --> 06:20:35,681
-- right out of nursing school

11145
06:20:35,681 --> 06:20:37,416
or the medical student right out

11146
06:20:37,416 --> 06:20:40,386
of medical school you know, for

11147
06:20:40,386 --> 06:20:41,754
them to move into something

11148
06:20:41,754 --> 06:20:44,754
small and attractive as opposed

11149
06:20:45,158 --> 06:20:46,158
to going out and finding their

11150
06:20:46,158 --> 06:20:48,127
first $400,000, you know, 3,000

11151
06:20:48,127 --> 06:20:49,562
square foot home, right?

11152
06:20:49,562 --> 06:20:51,264
This conversation about

11153
06:20:51,264 --> 06:20:52,297
affordable housing is incredibly

11154
06:20:52,297 --> 06:20:55,101
important, right, but for every

11155
06:20:55,101 --> 06:20:56,902
one of those big homes that are

11156
06:20:56,902 --> 06:20:58,470
built that is you know, land

11157
06:20:58,470 --> 06:21:02,700
that is taken up not, you

11158
06:21:02,441 --> 06:21:03,743
know -- anyway, we get, give up

11159
06:21:03,743 --> 06:21:05,770
density and density is really

11160
06:21:05,770 --> 06:21:06,613
important, right? So I am

11161
06:21:06,613 --> 06:21:09,613
100 percent of what you are

11162
06:21:10,383 --> 06:21:11,917
doing, and, you know, but I

11163
06:21:11,917 --> 06:21:13,552
think that in john counsel and

11164
06:21:13,552 --> 06:21:15,855
myself, you have got -- I think

11165
06:21:15,855 --> 06:21:18,625
you have a commitment that will

11166
06:21:18,625 --> 06:21:20,159
continue to resist this anyone

11167
06:21:20,159 --> 06:21:22,962
byism which just makes your job

11168
06:21:22,962 --> 06:21:24,797
harder quj and really makes it

11169
06:21:24,797 --> 06:21:26,165
more difficult to be poor in san

11170
06:21:26,165 --> 06:21:27,867
antonio, and being poor is hard

11171
06:21:27,867 --> 06:21:29,802
enough, right?

11172
06:21:29,802 --> 06:21:30,736
So mayor, you have my support on

11173
06:21:30,736 --> 06:21:31,638
this one too.

11174
06:21:31,638 --> 06:21:32,571
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

11175
06:21:32,571 --> 06:21:34,571
councilmember pelaez.

11176
06:21:36,800 --> 06:21:38,800
Councilmember courage.

11177
06:21:38,678 --> 06:21:40,980
>> Courage: we share a lot of

11178
06:21:40,980 --> 06:21:43,449
those at that thoughts in

11179
06:21:43,449 --> 06:21:45,449
common, COUNCILMAN.

11180
06:21:45,484 --> 06:21:47,320
You know, affordable housing is

11181
06:21:47,320 --> 06:21:49,121
such a huge issue you know, and

11182
06:21:49,121 --> 06:21:52,240
having served on the san antonio

11183
06:21:52,240 --> 06:21:55,227
housing trust and on the culture

11184
06:21:55,227 --> 06:21:56,562
and neighborhood services

11185
06:21:56,562 --> 06:21:58,640
committees have really gotten

11186
06:21:58,640 --> 06:21:59,165
more and more insight on this.

11187
06:21:59,165 --> 06:22:00,366
I want to address a couple of

11188
06:22:00,366 --> 06:22:03,235
things that came out in this

11189
06:22:03,235 --> 06:22:05,235
report right away.

11190
06:22:07,306 --> 06:22:09,706
You listed [Indiscernible] Hud,

11191
06:22:11,177 --> 06:22:13,212
74,000 in our area, and then the

11192
06:22:13,212 --> 06:22:14,914
80 percent of that, which is

11193
06:22:14,914 --> 06:22:17,517
commonly referred to as the

11194
06:22:17,517 --> 06:22:18,651
beginning of affordability in

11195
06:22:18,651 --> 06:22:20,353
the development of either

11196
06:22:20,353 --> 06:22:22,753
individual homes or apartments

11197
06:22:24,570 --> 06:22:26,570
is like 59,000 [Indiscernible]

11198
06:22:26,359 --> 06:22:26,559
Annual income for a family of

11199
06:22:26,559 --> 06:22:28,494
four.

11200
06:22:28,494 --> 06:22:30,329
have we been able to determine

11201
06:22:30,329 --> 06:22:31,831
glat annual income for a family

11202
06:22:31,831 --> 06:22:33,800
of four is within the city of

11203
06:22:33,800 --> 06:22:35,800
san antonio?

11204
06:22:36,670 --> 06:22:38,670
>> great question.

11205
06:22:38,838 --> 06:22:41,141
That is part of the conversation

11206
06:22:41,141 --> 06:22:43,309
that our housing commission has

11207
06:22:43,309 --> 06:22:45,378
been having and that our

11208
06:22:45,378 --> 06:22:47,213
strategy housing implementation

11209
06:22:47,213 --> 06:22:48,815
plan participants are having.

11210
06:22:48,815 --> 06:22:50,483
So again I was very careful to

11211
06:22:50,483 --> 06:22:52,518
mention this is a practitioner

11212
06:22:52,518 --> 06:22:54,530
definition but we want to make

11213
06:22:54,530 --> 06:22:55,856
sure that when we talk about

11214
06:22:55,856 --> 06:22:57,691
housing affordability it is

11215
06:22:57,691 --> 06:22:57,857
tailored to san antonio.

11216
06:22:57,857 --> 06:22:58,691
>>

11217
06:22:58,691 --> 06:22:59,358
antonio.

11218
06:22:59,358 --> 06:23:01,160
>> Courage:.

11219
06:23:01,160 --> 06:23:02,361
>> so part of our recalibration

11220
06:23:02,361 --> 06:23:04,361
does exactly that.

11221
06:23:06,233 --> 06:23:08,101
We figure out.. The hud ami is

11222
06:23:08,101 --> 06:23:09,836
set for our metropolitan

11223
06:23:09,836 --> 06:23:11,705
statistical area which is much

11224
06:23:11,705 --> 06:23:13,390
larger than the city limits.

11225
06:23:13,390 --> 06:23:15,708
And there is a difference

11226
06:23:15,708 --> 06:23:18,708
between the average within the

11227
06:23:19,512 --> 06:23:19,779
city limits versus that larger

11228
06:23:19,779 --> 06:23:21,779
msa.

11229
06:23:22,249 --> 06:23:25,180
And so our ship, our strategic

11230
06:23:25,180 --> 06:23:27,187
housing implementation plan is

11231
06:23:27,187 --> 06:23:28,522
carefully making sure of the --

11232
06:23:28,522 --> 06:23:31,424
that the definition fits our

11233
06:23:31,424 --> 06:23:32,892
city limits residents.

11234
06:23:32,892 --> 06:23:35,940
>> Courage: good but can we

11235
06:23:35,940 --> 06:23:38,598
use that to work with developers

11236
06:23:38,598 --> 06:23:40,733
and builders who base their

11237
06:23:40,733 --> 06:23:42,302
financial requirements using

11238
06:23:42,302 --> 06:23:44,337
federal money or to a great

11239
06:23:44,337 --> 06:23:47,337
extent even private money, they

11240
06:23:47,874 --> 06:23:49,776
base it on the hud ami, which

11241
06:23:49,776 --> 06:23:51,311
creates a real division between

11242
06:23:51,311 --> 06:23:52,679
what is affordable in the minds

11243
06:23:52,679 --> 06:23:54,314
of hud and those developers and

11244
06:23:54,314 --> 06:23:56,416
what is affordable in the minds

11245
06:23:56,416 --> 06:23:56,916
of the average citizen in san

11246
06:23:56,916 --> 06:23:58,185
antonio.

11247
06:23:58,185 --> 06:23:58,585
And to the city council.

11248
06:23:58,585 --> 06:24:00,420
>> and

11249
06:24:00,420 --> 06:24:00,854
and so the answer to that ask

11250
06:24:00,854 --> 06:24:02,588
yes.

11251
06:24:02,588 --> 06:24:04,391
Obviously, we still want to use

11252
06:24:04,391 --> 06:24:06,560
the same measuring stick, which

11253
06:24:06,560 --> 06:24:09,129
is the hud ami, so someone

11254
06:24:09,129 --> 06:24:11,331
doesn't have to recreate a whole

11255
06:24:11,331 --> 06:24:12,432
pro forma, but we have to say in

11256
06:24:12,432 --> 06:24:13,500
the conversation -- and the

11257
06:24:13,500 --> 06:24:16,302
conversation has been if we use

11258
06:24:16,302 --> 06:24:18,471
the hud ami in san antonio

11259
06:24:18,471 --> 06:24:18,638
affordable is really 60 percent

11260
06:24:18,638 --> 06:24:19,372
ami.

11261
06:24:19,372 --> 06:24:21,372
>> Courage: right.

11262
06:24:21,841 --> 06:24:23,443
>> so even though the national

11263
06:24:23,443 --> 06:24:24,511
definition is 80 percent ami

11264
06:24:24,511 --> 06:24:26,346
what we should look in san

11265
06:24:26,346 --> 06:24:28,746
antonio in tracking more

11266
06:24:29,215 --> 06:24:31,618
carefully is homes, rental units

11267
06:24:31,618 --> 06:24:33,720
that are affordable for san

11268
06:24:33,720 --> 06:24:35,289
antonians which means 60 percent

11269
06:24:35,289 --> 06:24:36,889
ami or below.

11270
06:24:36,889 --> 06:24:38,725
>> Courage: right.

11271
06:24:38,725 --> 06:24:39,793
I am glad to hear you say

11272
06:24:39,793 --> 06:24:41,594
that.Ed one thing on the figures

11273
06:24:41,594 --> 06:24:44,264
you had for the trial budget up

11274
06:24:44,264 --> 06:24:46,566
there, am I right in assuming

11275
06:24:46,566 --> 06:24:48,966
that the risk mitigation,

11276
06:24:49,703 --> 06:24:52,703
decline of $10 million is going

11277
06:24:53,373 --> 06:24:54,574
to be covered by ehab and the

11278
06:24:54,574 --> 06:24:56,710
money we have there?

11279
06:24:56,710 --> 06:24:57,310
Will that cover most of what

11280
06:24:57,310 --> 06:24:57,544
that 10 million might have

11281
06:24:57,544 --> 06:24:58,378
covered?

11282
06:24:58,378 --> 06:25:00,378
>> yes.

11283
06:25:01,214 --> 06:25:02,282
So we can go back to that slide.

11284
06:25:02,282 --> 06:25:02,982
>> Courage: it was number

11285
06:25:02,982 --> 06:25:03,783
seven, I think, yes.

11286
06:25:03,783 --> 06:25:05,783
>> there it is.

11287
06:25:06,860 --> 06:25:08,788
So last year, having -- the

11288
06:25:08,788 --> 06:25:10,757
career before and last year we,

11289
06:25:10,757 --> 06:25:13,894
just like we redeployed staff to

11290
06:25:13,894 --> 06:25:16,830
help us with response, we had to

11291
06:25:16,830 --> 06:25:19,232
redeploy funds, and so there is

11292
06:25:19,232 --> 06:25:20,968
some owner occupied units that

11293
06:25:20,968 --> 06:25:22,369
we didn't build because the

11294
06:25:22,369 --> 06:25:24,710
money was used for ehab.

11295
06:25:24,710 --> 06:25:24,971
There is some, I mentioned down

11296
06:25:24,971 --> 06:25:26,971
payment assistance.

11297
06:25:27,207 --> 06:25:28,541
So we didn't do as much first

11298
06:25:28,541 --> 06:25:30,941
time home buyer assistance

11299
06:25:31,645 --> 06:25:32,120
because that money was difficult

11300
06:25:32,120 --> 06:25:33,179
varietied.

11301
06:25:33,179 --> 06:25:34,648
Diverted so that's where that

11302
06:25:34,648 --> 06:25:37,150
money came from.. But again we

11303
06:25:37,150 --> 06:25:38,852
want to get back to the services

11304
06:25:38,852 --> 06:25:40,120
and the needs that were

11305
06:25:40,120 --> 06:25:41,789
identified before, that

11306
06:25:41,789 --> 06:25:43,924
continued to be a need so that

11307
06:25:43,924 --> 06:25:46,159
means butting the money back to

11308
06:25:46,159 --> 06:25:47,828
owner occupied rehab, to minor

11309
06:25:47,828 --> 06:25:49,229
repair, to down payment

11310
06:25:49,229 --> 06:25:51,598
assistance, but we do have that

11311
06:25:51,598 --> 06:25:52,432
federal money that city

11312
06:25:52,432 --> 06:25:53,667
city council

11313
06:25:53,667 --> 06:25:55,302
approved last week that will

11314
06:25:55,302 --> 06:25:55,502
carry us through the next fiscal

11315
06:25:55,502 --> 06:25:56,636
year.

11316
06:25:56,636 --> 06:25:57,804
>> Courage: so even

11317
06:25:57,804 --> 06:25:59,500
though 10,000 is showing as a

11318
06:25:59,500 --> 06:26:01,442
negative, we have rebuilt that

11319
06:26:01,442 --> 06:26:03,944
into other aspects of it, right?

11320
06:26:03,944 --> 06:26:05,545
>> and I want to add with the

11321
06:26:05,545 --> 06:26:06,580
ehab we have about $60 million

11322
06:26:06,580 --> 06:26:08,150
left in our budget.

11323
06:26:08,150 --> 06:26:09,416
That will get us through

11324
06:26:09,416 --> 06:26:11,218
DECEMBER and then as we are

11325
06:26:11,218 --> 06:26:12,285
ramping up our benefit

11326
06:26:12,285 --> 06:26:14,221
navigators you know, we will be

11327
06:26:14,221 --> 06:26:16,323
pushing on work force

11328
06:26:16,323 --> 06:26:17,240
development and knows scenes to

11329
06:26:17,240 --> 06:26:18,191
linked benefits so that will

11330
06:26:18,191 --> 06:26:19,326
help with the transition.

11331
06:26:19,326 --> 06:26:21,326
>> Courage: right.

11332
06:26:21,695 --> 06:26:25,295
Now on a rehab and preservation

11333
06:26:26,233 --> 06:26:27,668
up there, it shows about

11334
06:26:27,668 --> 06:26:30,604
$50 million in this next year we

11335
06:26:30,604 --> 06:26:31,638
are projecting to spend in that

11336
06:26:31,638 --> 06:26:33,638
area.

11337
06:26:34,675 --> 06:26:38,812
When we do owner rehab or we do

11338
06:26:38,812 --> 06:26:42,482
minor repair, or we go a roof,

11339
06:26:42,482 --> 06:26:43,116
do we ever ask the property

11340
06:26:43,116 --> 06:26:44,351
recipients to pay back anything

11341
06:26:44,351 --> 06:26:46,351
to the city?

11342
06:26:46,787 --> 06:26:48,221
>> so for these programs, for

11343
06:26:48,221 --> 06:26:50,624
the under one roof it is a grant

11344
06:26:50,624 --> 06:26:53,624
so there is no repayment.

11345
06:26:53,928 --> 06:26:57,528
For the owner occupied and minor

11346
06:26:57,898 --> 06:26:59,533
reair, it is a forgivable loan

11347
06:26:59,533 --> 06:27:00,601
that is amortized over time.

11348
06:27:00,601 --> 06:27:03,437
So for example if we do

11349
06:27:03,437 --> 06:27:06,437
someone's house we put a

11350
06:27:06,773 --> 06:27:08,575
covenant or a deed restriction

11351
06:27:08,575 --> 06:27:11,780
for 15 years, and we say, if you

11352
06:27:11,780 --> 06:27:12,646
sell your house, you have to

11353
06:27:12,646 --> 06:27:15,460
repay what we invested.

11354
06:27:16,149 --> 06:27:17,551
But if they stay in the home

11355
06:27:17,551 --> 06:27:19,687
that 15 years you know, whatever

11356
06:27:19,687 --> 06:27:21,221
we put into the house gets for

11357
06:27:21,221 --> 06:27:22,522
given over time.

11358
06:27:22,522 --> 06:27:25,492
And so only if they sell do they

11359
06:27:25,492 --> 06:27:27,528
have do pay back, so if the

11360
06:27:27,528 --> 06:27:28,596
housing is no longer who the

11361
06:27:28,596 --> 06:27:29,797
client was.

11362
06:27:29,797 --> 06:27:30,970
Otherwise, it is for given over

11363
06:27:30,970 --> 06:27:32,970
time.

11364
06:27:32,667 --> 06:27:33,634
But again this program, these

11365
06:27:33,634 --> 06:27:34,701
programs, all of these programs

11366
06:27:34,701 --> 06:27:36,871
are about trying to keep can

11367
06:27:36,871 --> 06:27:37,572
families in their house.

11368
06:27:37,572 --> 06:27:39,572
Doesn't always happen.

11369
06:27:41,800 --> 06:27:43,144
We have families who do sell the

11370
06:27:43,144 --> 06:27:44,779
house, and so that is when we

11371
06:27:44,779 --> 06:27:45,746
get the money but the money is

11372
06:27:45,746 --> 06:27:47,648
utilized for same are

11373
06:27:47,648 --> 06:27:49,317
programs as --

11374
06:27:49,317 --> 06:27:50,417
when there is a repayment.

11375
06:27:50,417 --> 06:27:52,253
>> Courage: I will ask for one

11376
06:27:52,253 --> 06:27:52,586
thing, mayor, if you will let

11377
06:27:52,586 --> 06:27:53,721
me.

11378
06:27:53,721 --> 06:27:57,910
Have we been able to determine

11379
06:27:57,910 --> 06:27:59,260
what the impact is on the

11380
06:27:59,260 --> 06:28:01,260
neighboring communities when

11381
06:28:01,561 --> 06:28:03,564
these properties are upgraded

11382
06:28:03,564 --> 06:28:07,645
and their values go up and how

11383
06:28:07,645 --> 06:28:07,773
does it affect the neighboring

11384
06:28:07,773 --> 06:28:07,869
properties?

11385
06:28:07,869 --> 06:28:09,436
Have question looked at that?

11386
06:28:09,436 --> 06:28:11,272
>> we did a little bit of that

11387
06:28:11,272 --> 06:28:12,739
with the finance department,

11388
06:28:12,739 --> 06:28:14,375
right before the pandemic.

11389
06:28:14,375 --> 06:28:15,676
We will have to -- it has been a

11390
06:28:15,676 --> 06:28:17,311
while since we visited those

11391
06:28:17,311 --> 06:28:19,747
numbers but we saw -- question

11392
06:28:19,747 --> 06:28:20,715
looked at evaluation --

11393
06:28:20,715 --> 06:28:22,116
valuations for example so I will

11394
06:28:22,116 --> 06:28:23,684
have to go back and look at

11395
06:28:23,684 --> 06:28:25,686
those numbers and see if we did

11396
06:28:25,686 --> 06:28:28,923
it beyond the house to see if we

11397
06:28:28,923 --> 06:28:29,757
did like the block, be new is a

11398
06:28:29,757 --> 06:28:31,757
good investment.

11399
06:28:31,759 --> 06:28:33,260
It is keeping families in their

11400
06:28:33,260 --> 06:28:34,662
house, many of them have had

11401
06:28:34,662 --> 06:28:37,398
that house for a long time.

11402
06:28:37,398 --> 06:28:41,598
It is cheaper to rehab than to

11403
06:28:41,668 --> 06:28:42,469
build a new unit, I mean, if we

11404
06:28:42,469 --> 06:28:43,771
invest $90,000 in a house, when

11405
06:28:43,771 --> 06:28:45,272
you build a new house you are

11406
06:28:45,272 --> 06:28:45,473
spending two or three times

11407
06:28:45,473 --> 06:28:47,473
that.

11408
06:28:47,708 --> 06:28:49,443
And it is also keeping families

11409
06:28:49,443 --> 06:28:51,112
with the same social services,

11410
06:28:51,112 --> 06:28:53,147
the network, you know, the kid

11411
06:28:53,147 --> 06:28:56,747
across the street who checks in

11412
06:28:56,784 --> 06:28:59,530
on an elderly senior citizen,

11413
06:28:59,530 --> 06:29:00,288
the tia around the coroner who

11414
06:29:00,288 --> 06:29:01,789
can bay sit when they heed it so

11415
06:29:01,789 --> 06:29:02,423
it is about that social fabric

11416
06:29:02,423 --> 06:29:03,557
as well.

11417
06:29:03,557 --> 06:29:05,493
It is the church that they have

11418
06:29:05,493 --> 06:29:07,395
been going to for a long time or

11419
06:29:07,395 --> 06:29:10,364
the grocery store that is a

11420
06:29:10,364 --> 06:29:12,320
short drive or a bus line away

11421
06:29:12,320 --> 06:29:13,801
from what they know as well.

11422
06:29:13,801 --> 06:29:15,103
So there is -- those be he was

11423
06:29:15,103 --> 06:29:18,600
and I am not sure I have to put

11424
06:29:18,600 --> 06:29:22,806
a price on it, but there is a

11425
06:29:25,246 --> 06:29:26,180
price as well -- [Indiscernible]

11426
06:29:26,180 --> 06:29:27,715
Water infrastructure lines as

11427
06:29:27,715 --> 06:29:29,500
swoll there is a savings as well

11428
06:29:29,500 --> 06:29:30,180
when it comes to that.

11429
06:29:30,180 --> 06:29:30,352
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

11430
06:29:30,352 --> 06:29:30,985
councilmember.

11431
06:29:30,985 --> 06:29:32,119
>> Courage:.

11432
06:29:32,119 --> 06:29:34,119
The councilmember perry.

11433
06:29:34,355 --> 06:29:35,790
>> Perry: okay.

11434
06:29:35,790 --> 06:29:38,790
Thank you for the information.

11435
06:29:39,460 --> 06:29:40,795
Let's just stay on that slide.

11436
06:29:40,795 --> 06:29:42,229
I see councilmember courage

11437
06:29:42,229 --> 06:29:42,630
asked about the $10 million

11438
06:29:42,630 --> 06:29:44,332
decrease.

11439
06:29:44,332 --> 06:29:47,332
That's being covered by other

11440
06:29:47,501 --> 06:29:49,700
funds so we are okay there.

11441
06:29:49,700 --> 06:29:51,172
But we still have an overall

11442
06:29:51,172 --> 06:29:53,374
increase of 800,000, close to a

11443
06:29:53,374 --> 06:29:55,276
drilled across these other

11444
06:29:55,276 --> 06:29:57,946
programs and who determined the

11445
06:29:57,946 --> 06:30:01,348
amounts on each one, like the

11446
06:30:01,348 --> 06:30:03,618
increase in the owner occupied

11447
06:30:03,618 --> 06:30:06,253
rehab under one roof, the minor

11448
06:30:06,253 --> 06:30:08,122
repair, the gap financing,?

11449
06:30:08,122 --> 06:30:09,424
Who determined all of these

11450
06:30:09,424 --> 06:30:12,159
increases here and what is that

11451
06:30:12,159 --> 06:30:14,159
based on?

11452
06:30:18,799 --> 06:30:20,201
>> so we had net 27 and a half

11453
06:30:20,201 --> 06:30:22,870
million dollars, and you will

11454
06:30:22,870 --> 06:30:23,671
have to check me, there were

11455
06:30:23,671 --> 06:30:26,308
several million dollars that was

11456
06:30:26,308 --> 06:30:27,508
one time in nature.

11457
06:30:27,508 --> 06:30:30,378
The $28.3 million for the trial

11458
06:30:30,378 --> 06:30:32,647
budget set aside an additional

11459
06:30:32,647 --> 06:30:34,647
$5 million in resources

11460
06:30:36,518 --> 06:30:36,818
potentially for affordable

11461
06:30:36,818 --> 06:30:38,818
housing.

11462
06:30:38,853 --> 06:30:41,822
What I heard last week was

11463
06:30:41,822 --> 06:30:44,458
myself and the staff heard was

11464
06:30:44,458 --> 06:30:46,727
that we has been -- rehab was a

11465
06:30:46,727 --> 06:30:49,230
priority.. So if you will go

11466
06:30:49,230 --> 06:30:52,830
back cash go forward one slide

11467
06:30:53,134 --> 06:30:53,334
.. Our suggestion was -- one

11468
06:30:53,334 --> 06:30:55,334
more.

11469
06:30:55,403 --> 06:30:55,670
I am sorry.

11470
06:30:55,670 --> 06:30:57,670
One more.

11471
06:30:57,939 --> 06:30:59,407
Was that we put an additional

11472
06:30:59,407 --> 06:31:01,209
$2 million in owner occupied.

11473
06:31:01,209 --> 06:31:02,610
We put an additional 2 million

11474
06:31:02,610 --> 06:31:04,412
in minor reair, which is a

11475
06:31:04,412 --> 06:31:07,150
little less expensive than the

11476
06:31:07,150 --> 06:31:10,150
owner rehab but still critical

11477
06:31:10,685 --> 06:31:13,522
and that the balance is 400,000

11478
06:31:13,522 --> 06:31:14,689
in relocation and $600,000

11479
06:31:14,689 --> 06:31:17,890
towards that administration and

11480
06:31:17,425 --> 06:31:17,626
navigation that lori talked

11481
06:31:17,626 --> 06:31:18,726
about.

11482
06:31:18,726 --> 06:31:21,262
The rest of that is included

11483
06:31:21,262 --> 06:31:22,931
within our budget, within our

11484
06:31:22,931 --> 06:31:26,531
base budget, and was at the

11485
06:31:31,706 --> 06:31:32,373
recommendation of the department

11486
06:31:32,373 --> 06:31:34,760
department.

11487
06:31:34,760 --> 06:31:36,111
Let's go back to slide number 7.

11488
06:31:36,111 --> 06:31:37,779
>> so we are looking at these

11489
06:31:37,779 --> 06:31:40,382
and I deamounts that we are

11490
06:31:40,382 --> 06:31:43,318
spending on rehabbing, the cost

11491
06:31:43,318 --> 06:31:44,319
per square foot and all of that.

11492
06:31:44,319 --> 06:31:44,886
I haven't gotten that

11493
06:31:44,886 --> 06:31:46,254
information on that.

11494
06:31:46,254 --> 06:31:48,690
I was kind of expecting a

11495
06:31:48,690 --> 06:31:50,250
spreadsheet on how much we are

11496
06:31:50,250 --> 06:31:53,127
spending versus what it would be

11497
06:31:53,127 --> 06:31:54,896
to build new and then I asked

11498
06:31:54,896 --> 06:31:56,564
the question and I think we got

11499
06:31:56,564 --> 06:32:00,702
answer that one ask a grant and

11500
06:32:00,702 --> 06:32:02,170
the other is a forgivable loan,

11501
06:32:02,170 --> 06:32:05,440
so basically there is no skin in

11502
06:32:05,440 --> 06:32:08,310
the game by any of the owners of

11503
06:32:08,310 --> 06:32:08,743
these house that are being

11504
06:32:08,743 --> 06:32:09,844
rehabbed.

11505
06:32:09,844 --> 06:32:11,146
>> that is correct.

11506
06:32:11,146 --> 06:32:13,282
That is structured as a grant,

11507
06:32:13,282 --> 06:32:14,115
but they do have to live in the

11508
06:32:14,115 --> 06:32:15,317
home for a certain amount of

11509
06:32:15,317 --> 06:32:17,652
time and they can't sell that

11510
06:32:17,652 --> 06:32:18,753
home for that time period.

11511
06:32:18,753 --> 06:32:19,721
>> Perry: okay.

11512
06:32:19,721 --> 06:32:20,822
And how many homes are we

11513
06:32:20,822 --> 06:32:22,822
talking about?

11514
06:32:23,124 --> 06:32:24,525
How many under one roof, how

11515
06:32:24,525 --> 06:32:26,950
many owner occupied rehabs and

11516
06:32:26,950 --> 06:32:27,362
how many minor repair -- how

11517
06:32:27,362 --> 06:32:30,632
many houses are we talking about

11518
06:32:30,632 --> 06:32:31,666
did we do in '21 and what is the

11519
06:32:31,666 --> 06:32:33,666
projection for '22?

11520
06:32:37,706 --> 06:32:41,543
>> so -- so or this fiscal year,

11521
06:32:41,543 --> 06:32:41,743
our owner occupied number is 63

11522
06:32:41,743 --> 06:32:43,743
units.

11523
06:32:45,581 --> 06:32:48,483
We are projecting 83 with the

11524
06:32:48,483 --> 06:32:50,483
additional funding.

11525
06:32:51,987 --> 06:32:54,189
For minor repair -- let me look

11526
06:32:54,189 --> 06:32:56,189
at my notes.

11527
06:32:59,928 --> 06:33:00,996
For next year, it is 164, with

11528
06:33:00,996 --> 06:33:02,797
the -- with the additional

11529
06:33:02,797 --> 06:33:04,365
funding that we have.

11530
06:33:04,365 --> 06:33:07,102
I do have a chart that I can

11531
06:33:07,102 --> 06:33:08,670
share with all of the councilors

11532
06:33:08,670 --> 06:33:11,730
showing funding this year, total

11533
06:33:11,730 --> 06:33:12,374
units this year, funding

11534
06:33:12,374 --> 06:33:13,375
proposed for next year and total

11535
06:33:13,375 --> 06:33:15,375
units next year.

11536
06:33:16,450 --> 06:33:17,512
We did -- there it is.

11537
06:33:17,512 --> 06:33:19,114
That are include heard this is a

11538
06:33:19,114 --> 06:33:20,482
backup slide but for every

11539
06:33:20,482 --> 06:33:23,585
program we have that as well.

11540
06:33:23,585 --> 06:33:25,200
And remember, our budget for

11541
06:33:25,200 --> 06:33:26,955
affordable housing is not just

11542
06:33:26,955 --> 06:33:28,857
general fund but we also utilize

11543
06:33:28,857 --> 06:33:31,857
the federal grant programs, so

11544
06:33:32,862 --> 06:33:35,197
we use hud, cbdg block grants

11545
06:33:35,197 --> 06:33:38,797
and the home program and you

11546
06:33:39,502 --> 06:33:41,360
will see the hud budgets at your

11547
06:33:41,360 --> 06:33:42,704
AUGUST meeting.

11548
06:33:42,704 --> 06:33:44,373
That's a little -- so the rest

11549
06:33:44,373 --> 06:33:46,542
of the city budget, but we have

11550
06:33:46,542 --> 06:33:47,710
to bring that forward in AUGUST

11551
06:33:47,710 --> 06:33:49,440
because we need to submit it to

11552
06:33:49,440 --> 06:33:50,446
hud in AUGUST a, and that's a

11553
06:33:50,446 --> 06:33:52,846
lot of funding for

11554
06:33:52,948 --> 06:33:54,483
for some of these

11555
06:33:54,483 --> 06:33:55,217
affordable housing programs as

11556
06:33:55,217 --> 06:33:56,886
well.

11557
06:33:56,886 --> 06:33:58,754
>> Perry: so [Indiscernible]

11558
06:33:58,754 --> 06:34:00,856
Six and 7 that is only general

11559
06:34:00,856 --> 06:34:02,758
fund, right?

11560
06:34:02,758 --> 06:34:04,326
>> page 7, slide 7?

11561
06:34:04,326 --> 06:34:05,270
We are only talking general

11562
06:34:05,270 --> 06:34:06,610
funds here?

11563
06:34:06,610 --> 06:34:08,610
>> no.

11564
06:34:08,530 --> 06:34:08,897
It has a combination of some

11565
06:34:08,897 --> 06:34:09,998
federal money.

11566
06:34:09,998 --> 06:34:10,565
>> Perry: okay.

11567
06:34:10,565 --> 06:34:10,933
Yes.

11568
06:34:10,933 --> 06:34:11,867
>> trial budget.

11569
06:34:11,867 --> 06:34:13,680
>> Perry: I

11570
06:34:13,680 --> 06:34:14,236
I would really like

11571
06:34:14,236 --> 06:34:15,837
to see that we are talking

11572
06:34:15,837 --> 06:34:16,380
about, general funds on this

11573
06:34:16,380 --> 06:34:18,380
slide.

11574
06:34:19,410 --> 06:34:20,776
I understand 0 federal funds,

11575
06:34:20,776 --> 06:34:22,177
outside funding coming in, but

11576
06:34:22,177 --> 06:34:23,411
what is impacting our general

11577
06:34:23,411 --> 06:34:25,411
fund budget here?

11578
06:34:26,782 --> 06:34:27,550
What is the bottom line, the

11579
06:34:27,550 --> 06:34:29,550
total?

11580
06:34:31,153 --> 06:34:34,890
>> let me see if I have that as

11581
06:34:34,890 --> 06:34:36,890
well.

11582
06:34:37,192 --> 06:34:39,628
>> COUNCILMAN, I am zachry cone,

11583
06:34:39,628 --> 06:34:41,130
assistant general manager..

11584
06:34:41,130 --> 06:34:43,530
9.6 million, the remainder is

11585
06:34:43,599 --> 06:34:43,899
coming from our -- home

11586
06:34:43,899 --> 06:34:45,367
allocations.

11587
06:34:45,367 --> 06:34:48,367
>> Perry: is that going up

11588
06:34:48,504 --> 06:34:48,871
more than 9.6 for the '22 trial

11589
06:34:48,871 --> 06:34:50,673
budget.

11590
06:34:50,673 --> 06:34:51,440
We assume that allocation will

11591
06:34:51,440 --> 06:34:52,875
be flat between --

11592
06:34:52,875 --> 06:34:53,776
>> Perry: okay.

11593
06:34:53,776 --> 06:34:55,878
That's what I wanted to hear, if

11594
06:34:55,878 --> 06:34:58,114
there was any increases in the

11595
06:34:58,114 --> 06:34:59,414
general fund.

11596
06:34:59,414 --> 06:34:59,615
Okay.

11597
06:34:59,615 --> 06:35:01,615
Mayor

11598
06:35:02,718 --> 06:35:04,870
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

11599
06:35:04,870 --> 06:35:04,586
councilmember perry.

11600
06:35:04,586 --> 06:35:06,586
councilmember bra.

11601
06:35:07,156 --> 06:35:08,424
>> Bravo: thanks, and again I

11602
06:35:08,424 --> 06:35:09,959
am flying a little blind because

11603
06:35:09,959 --> 06:35:10,926
we haven't had our briefing yet,

11604
06:35:10,926 --> 06:35:13,926
our initial briefing but I

11605
06:35:16,198 --> 06:35:19,501
wanted to ask I was looking at

11606
06:35:19,501 --> 06:35:21,604
the.. Down payment assistances,

11607
06:35:21,604 --> 06:35:22,604
one I am glad we are increasing

11608
06:35:22,604 --> 06:35:24,507
that amount.

11609
06:35:24,507 --> 06:35:25,907
2, I am curious, are we doing

11610
06:35:25,907 --> 06:35:28,544
stuff beyond down payments? Are

11611
06:35:28,544 --> 06:35:30,346
we doing things to help educate

11612
06:35:30,346 --> 06:35:33,148
people about the benefits of

11613
06:35:33,148 --> 06:35:35,818
purchasing a home and you know,

11614
06:35:35,818 --> 06:35:37,586
I just think about how again

11615
06:35:37,586 --> 06:35:39,210
that we are a city of haves and

11616
06:35:39,210 --> 06:35:40,589
have notes and we want to be

11617
06:35:40,589 --> 06:35:42,989
able to address poverty

11618
06:35:43,893 --> 06:35:44,961
long-term and how homeowner ship

11619
06:35:44,961 --> 06:35:46,662
contributes to generational

11620
06:35:46,662 --> 06:35:50,262
wealth but I am just curious

11621
06:35:51,767 --> 06:35:53,769
what else are we doing besides,

11622
06:35:53,769 --> 06:35:55,710
within -- what are we doing to

11623
06:35:55,710 --> 06:35:57,406
promote home sphwhieg what are

11624
06:35:57,406 --> 06:35:57,774
we doing beyond down payment

11625
06:35:57,774 --> 06:35:58,975
assistance?

11626
06:35:58,975 --> 06:36:01,510
>> so one of the requirements

11627
06:36:01,510 --> 06:36:01,978
and this is a first time home

11628
06:36:01,978 --> 06:36:02,611
buyer program.

11629
06:36:02,611 --> 06:36:04,611
>> Bravo: right.

11630
06:36:06,215 --> 06:36:06,816
>> so one of the requirement it

11631
06:36:06,816 --> 06:36:09,252
is that families applying for

11632
06:36:09,252 --> 06:36:10,530
that, they do have

11633
06:36:10,530 --> 06:36:11,721
[Indiscernible] Education

11634
06:36:11,721 --> 06:36:12,555
classes, so there is a set

11635
06:36:12,555 --> 06:36:13,990
amount of hours 0.

11636
06:36:13,990 --> 06:36:15,580
It is hud required, that they

11637
06:36:15,580 --> 06:36:17,580
have to take.

11638
06:36:18,930 --> 06:36:21,130
And it is everything from how to

11639
06:36:21,130 --> 06:36:21,330
budget, credit counseling to

11640
06:36:21,330 --> 06:36:23,650
what

11641
06:36:23,650 --> 06:36:24,734
what are the kind of things they

11642
06:36:24,734 --> 06:36:26,402
need to be prepared or when they

11643
06:36:26,402 --> 06:36:27,803
become a homeowner if they

11644
06:36:27,803 --> 06:36:29,472
haven't been a homeowner.

11645
06:36:29,472 --> 06:36:31,407
So making sure to budget for the

11646
06:36:31,407 --> 06:36:33,209
maintenance you need for a home.

11647
06:36:33,209 --> 06:36:34,744
>> Bravo: are we waiting for

11648
06:36:34,744 --> 06:36:35,945
people to come to apply or going

11649
06:36:35,945 --> 06:36:36,913
out and encouraging this?

11650
06:36:36,913 --> 06:36:38,681
>> no.

11651
06:36:38,681 --> 06:36:40,984
So part of what we do is we host

11652
06:36:40,984 --> 06:36:43,850
all of these every month we have

11653
06:36:43,850 --> 06:36:44,220
english and spanish the home

11654
06:36:44,220 --> 06:36:46,455
buyer education classes and we

11655
06:36:46,455 --> 06:36:47,690
have a lot of partners who help

11656
06:36:47,690 --> 06:36:49,690
us with that.

11657
06:36:51,194 --> 06:36:51,761
Besides banks, because in order

11658
06:36:51,761 --> 06:36:52,629
to qualify you still need to

11659
06:36:52,629 --> 06:36:55,290
qualify for [Indiscernible] So

11660
06:36:55,198 --> 06:36:56,633
all of the the only institutions

11661
06:36:56,633 --> 06:36:58,868
are part hers with us.

11662
06:36:58,868 --> 06:37:00,570
They also host home buyer

11663
06:37:00,570 --> 06:37:01,905
education classes.

11664
06:37:01,905 --> 06:37:03,806
We partner with the realtors as

11665
06:37:03,806 --> 06:37:05,608
well who bring us clients and

11666
06:37:05,608 --> 06:37:07,430
who ensure client go through

11667
06:37:07,430 --> 06:37:09,450
this home buyer education.

11668
06:37:09,450 --> 06:37:11,547
One of the things we started

11669
06:37:11,547 --> 06:37:13,483
doing is a post home buyer, post

11670
06:37:13,483 --> 06:37:16,483
rehab education class as well.

11671
06:37:16,686 --> 06:37:20,886
That not put on hold because of

11672
06:37:21,391 --> 06:37:22,458
the pandemic, but a

11673
06:37:22,458 --> 06:37:23,659
[Indiscernible] 0 if you a

11674
06:37:23,659 --> 06:37:25,227
renter and here are the things

11675
06:37:25,227 --> 06:37:27,264
you need do and some basics so

11676
06:37:27,264 --> 06:37:29,165
folks can do that and maintain

11677
06:37:29,165 --> 06:37:30,667
their new house or maintain tear

11678
06:37:30,667 --> 06:37:32,569
rehabbed house so we are going

11679
06:37:32,569 --> 06:37:35,710
to pick that back up, but we are

11680
06:37:35,710 --> 06:37:36,505
actively promoting the program,

11681
06:37:36,505 --> 06:37:38,441
advertising, working with some

11682
06:37:38,441 --> 06:37:40,109
nonprofits that do there.

11683
06:37:40,109 --> 06:37:40,977
There is at least two community

11684
06:37:40,977 --> 06:37:42,977
housing development

11685
06:37:43,346 --> 06:37:44,180
organizations who also promote

11686
06:37:44,180 --> 06:37:46,180
the program.

11687
06:37:46,482 --> 06:37:48,418
It also starts with financial

11688
06:37:48,418 --> 06:37:51,221
counseling services that are the

11689
06:37:51,221 --> 06:37:52,388
department of human services,

11690
06:37:52,388 --> 06:37:54,900
where they start helping people

11691
06:37:54,900 --> 06:37:55,392
just [Indiscernible] So that

11692
06:37:55,392 --> 06:37:55,825
eventually they become a

11693
06:37:55,825 --> 06:37:57,660
homeowner.

11694
06:37:57,660 --> 06:37:59,495
Sometimes we end up referring

11695
06:37:59,495 --> 06:38:01,464
client for the home buyer

11696
06:38:01,464 --> 06:38:03,333
education class to the financial

11697
06:38:03,333 --> 06:38:04,901
counseling program, because they

11698
06:38:04,901 --> 06:38:06,570
realize, I need work on my

11699
06:38:06,570 --> 06:38:08,104
credit first, that doesn't

11700
06:38:08,104 --> 06:38:08,972
happen in a short time.

11701
06:38:08,972 --> 06:38:11,972
It might take a year.

11702
06:38:15,211 --> 06:38:16,513
And so we refer them dhs for

11703
06:38:16,513 --> 06:38:17,480
credit so they can work on the

11704
06:38:17,480 --> 06:38:18,481
credit issues that will help

11705
06:38:18,481 --> 06:38:19,816
them qualify for that mortgage.

11706
06:38:19,816 --> 06:38:21,840
So it is a combination and we

11707
06:38:21,840 --> 06:38:21,285
are not only ones promoting

11708
06:38:21,285 --> 06:38:22,485
this.

11709
06:38:22,485 --> 06:38:24,187
>> Bravo: thanks.

11710
06:38:24,187 --> 06:38:25,389
So while I am glad we are

11711
06:38:25,389 --> 06:38:27,789
increasing that budget, you

11712
06:38:28,191 --> 06:38:31,791
know, I am locking at increasing

11713
06:38:33,230 --> 06:38:35,980
it from 450,000 to 4.3 million.

11714
06:38:35,980 --> 06:38:37,967
The total budget for trial

11715
06:38:37,967 --> 06:38:39,636
budget is -- so this home buyer

11716
06:38:39,636 --> 06:38:41,938
assistance is representing less

11717
06:38:41,938 --> 06:38:44,541
than five percent of that budget

11718
06:38:44,541 --> 06:38:46,376
there that 28.3 million and just

11719
06:38:46,376 --> 06:38:48,745
wondering, to what extent -- and

11720
06:38:48,745 --> 06:38:50,847
this seems like a long-term fix,

11721
06:38:50,847 --> 06:38:52,649
and then I am just wondering,

11722
06:38:52,649 --> 06:38:53,383
are some of these other things

11723
06:38:53,383 --> 06:38:55,383
short-term fixes?

11724
06:38:56,586 --> 06:39:00,123
And I am also wondering, how how

11725
06:39:00,123 --> 06:39:04,323
much in the last year did we

11726
06:39:05,863 --> 06:39:08,131
provide in tax breaks to

11727
06:39:08,131 --> 06:39:08,565
developers for building out

11728
06:39:08,565 --> 06:39:10,565
affordable housing?

11729
06:39:11,234 --> 06:39:12,369
And so like how does that -- you

11730
06:39:12,369 --> 06:39:13,804
know, how much are we giving in

11731
06:39:13,804 --> 06:39:15,500
tax breaks for affordable

11732
06:39:15,500 --> 06:39:17,141
housing versus how much are we

11733
06:39:17,141 --> 06:39:18,641
helping people to become

11734
06:39:18,641 --> 06:39:20,641
homeowners and build

11735
06:39:21,811 --> 06:39:22,946
generational wealth?

11736
06:39:22,946 --> 06:39:24,281
>> I don't have that number in

11737
06:39:24,281 --> 06:39:26,383
front of me, but when we sit

11738
06:39:26,383 --> 06:39:27,450
down and talk about housing

11739
06:39:27,450 --> 06:39:28,251
services and initiatives we will

11740
06:39:28,251 --> 06:39:29,253
have that for you.

11741
06:39:29,253 --> 06:39:30,721
>> Bravo: thanks.

11742
06:39:30,721 --> 06:39:32,122
I appreciate that.

11743
06:39:32,122 --> 06:39:33,900
And, yes, that is something

11744
06:39:33,900 --> 06:39:34,958
something I am interested in

11745
06:39:34,958 --> 06:39:36,459
general.

11746
06:39:36,459 --> 06:39:38,562
It is like -- I just don't know

11747
06:39:38,562 --> 06:39:40,730
enough about this to know how

11748
06:39:40,730 --> 06:39:42,650
much of this is a short-term

11749
06:39:42,650 --> 06:39:43,100
figures versus long-term and i

11750
06:39:43,100 --> 06:39:43,800
am really interested in having

11751
06:39:43,800 --> 06:39:45,769
that conversation.

11752
06:39:45,769 --> 06:39:47,769
Thanks a lot.

11753
06:39:47,938 --> 06:39:49,739
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

11754
06:39:49,739 --> 06:39:50,240
councilmember bravo.

11755
06:39:50,240 --> 06:39:51,542
Councilmember viagran.

11756
06:39:51,542 --> 06:39:53,343
>> Viagran: thank you, thank

11757
06:39:53,343 --> 06:39:55,743
you for that presentation.

11758
06:39:56,613 --> 06:39:58,448
That was a very interesting.

11759
06:39:58,448 --> 06:39:59,783
The I am totally for the rehab

11760
06:39:59,783 --> 06:40:01,783
and preservation.

11761
06:40:02,553 --> 06:40:04,921
That shotgun home, I know that

11762
06:40:04,921 --> 06:40:05,889
family, so it is -- I know it is

11763
06:40:05,889 --> 06:40:07,889
a generational home.

11764
06:40:08,525 --> 06:40:11,861
I know she took care of nieces

11765
06:40:11,861 --> 06:40:14,197
and grandparents and so there is

11766
06:40:14,197 --> 06:40:15,299
-- there is such a

11767
06:40:15,299 --> 06:40:17,670
transformation in the program

11768
06:40:17,670 --> 06:40:18,735
that it is doing.

11769
06:40:18,735 --> 06:40:22,720
I think what might help is, if

11770
06:40:22,720 --> 06:40:23,273
we are able to collect that data

11771
06:40:23,273 --> 06:40:24,441
about if they are living with

11772
06:40:24,441 --> 06:40:26,210
disability as, if they are

11773
06:40:26,210 --> 06:40:28,610
living with children with

11774
06:40:28,745 --> 06:40:29,814
disabilities, that over 60,

11775
06:40:29,814 --> 06:40:30,747
because these are

11776
06:40:30,747 --> 06:40:32,682
multigenerational homes that we

11777
06:40:32,682 --> 06:40:34,384
are going in.

11778
06:40:34,384 --> 06:40:37,187
We are changing their lives and

11779
06:40:37,187 --> 06:40:37,521
helping them stay in their

11780
06:40:37,521 --> 06:40:38,955
homes.

11781
06:40:38,955 --> 06:40:40,157
And the one thing did want to

11782
06:40:40,157 --> 06:40:42,959
stress is, sometimes we have to

11783
06:40:42,959 --> 06:40:45,362
do the rehab and preservation

11784
06:40:45,362 --> 06:40:47,264
because a seen record can't move

11785
06:40:47,264 --> 06:40:48,365
out of a home and move into a

11786
06:40:48,365 --> 06:40:49,433
senior living center because

11787
06:40:49,433 --> 06:40:50,868
they are taking care of grand

11788
06:40:50,868 --> 06:40:51,936
children and other members of

11789
06:40:51,936 --> 06:40:54,538
their family, so that's why it

11790
06:40:54,538 --> 06:40:56,538
is so important.

11791
06:40:57,674 --> 06:41:00,110
So in terms of the fixes, I know

11792
06:41:00,110 --> 06:41:02,179
whatever we are doing is making

11793
06:41:02,179 --> 06:41:05,779
an impact, and the one question

11794
06:41:09,186 --> 06:41:10,787
I have in terms of the title

11795
06:41:10,787 --> 06:41:12,787
clearance.

11796
06:41:13,490 --> 06:41:15,125
>> the legacy, is this primarily

11797
06:41:15,125 --> 06:41:18,125
for those having probate issues?

11798
06:41:18,603 --> 06:41:19,697
>> it is a combination.

11799
06:41:19,697 --> 06:41:23,330
So some of it is probate issues.

11800
06:41:23,330 --> 06:41:24,568
some of it is -- they inherited

11801
06:41:24,568 --> 06:41:27,438
the house and it is still not in

11802
06:41:27,438 --> 06:41:30,438
their name or sometimes the

11803
06:41:31,308 --> 06:41:32,710
heirs are multiple heirs and so

11804
06:41:32,710 --> 06:41:36,310
getting eight or ten people to

11805
06:41:36,603 --> 06:41:37,581
sign off on one of our

11806
06:41:37,581 --> 06:41:40,581
documents, for example for owner

11807
06:41:41,700 --> 06:41:41,831
occupied rehab can be a

11808
06:41:41,831 --> 06:41:42,887
challenge so it is addressing

11809
06:41:42,887 --> 06:41:45,222
those kind of issues.

11810
06:41:45,222 --> 06:41:48,222
Somewhere, you know, someone who

11811
06:41:48,492 --> 06:41:50,761
has a construction deed on their

11812
06:41:50,761 --> 06:41:53,431
house and it could be as small

11813
06:41:53,431 --> 06:41:54,164
small as $250 but it is

11814
06:41:54,164 --> 06:41:55,599
something in the court that

11815
06:41:55,599 --> 06:41:56,767
needs to be cleared up.

11816
06:41:56,767 --> 06:41:58,202
Some are a little bit more

11817
06:41:58,202 --> 06:42:00,700
expensive but it could be simple

11818
06:42:00,700 --> 06:42:01,505
things like that that allow them

11819
06:42:01,505 --> 06:42:02,773
to participate in the program.

11820
06:42:02,773 --> 06:42:03,540
So a combination.

11821
06:42:03,540 --> 06:42:05,540
>> Viagran: okay.

11822
06:42:06,711 --> 06:42:08,312
Then as we look in -- the

11823
06:42:08,312 --> 06:42:10,712
priority for affordable housing,

11824
06:42:11,148 --> 06:42:13,618
is that if we look at -- if we

11825
06:42:13,618 --> 06:42:17,218
collect some data gone ages of

11826
06:42:18,890 --> 06:42:21,525
the homes and the amount, it

11827
06:42:21,525 --> 06:42:23,427
would cost to get them upgraded

11828
06:42:23,427 --> 06:42:25,827
for those living with

11829
06:42:27,520 --> 06:42:27,664
disabilities, because it is one

11830
06:42:27,664 --> 06:42:27,763
of those things that, in

11831
06:42:27,763 --> 06:42:29,400
district 3, in particular we

11832
06:42:29,400 --> 06:42:31,402
have a lot of seniors who want

11833
06:42:31,402 --> 06:42:34,939
to live out their days in their

11834
06:42:34,939 --> 06:42:35,739
homes, but that MAY mean a whole

11835
06:42:35,739 --> 06:42:37,408
bathroom reconstruction and how

11836
06:42:37,408 --> 06:42:39,544
do they pay for that?

11837
06:42:39,544 --> 06:42:41,712
There are the other as -- the

11838
06:42:41,712 --> 06:42:45,912
other aspect I would like to see

11839
06:42:46,383 --> 06:42:48,352
is, are we taking into account

11840
06:42:48,352 --> 06:42:50,352
that affordable apartment

11841
06:42:51,188 --> 06:42:53,924
housing in the areas and mobile

11842
06:42:53,924 --> 06:42:55,926
home park in the areas and when

11843
06:42:55,926 --> 06:42:58,229
that -- is there any way we can

11844
06:42:58,229 --> 06:42:59,764
monitor when it gets to an

11845
06:42:59,764 --> 06:43:03,364
occupation level that is a kind

11846
06:43:03,801 --> 06:43:04,468
of lower than -- I guess

11847
06:43:04,468 --> 06:43:05,570
50 percent?

11848
06:43:05,570 --> 06:43:06,704
Are we keeping track?

11849
06:43:06,704 --> 06:43:06,904
Is anybody keeping track of

11850
06:43:06,904 --> 06:43:08,904
that?

11851
06:43:09,974 --> 06:43:10,208
>> is that just for mobile home

11852
06:43:10,208 --> 06:43:12,109
park --

11853
06:43:12,109 --> 06:43:13,878
>> mobile home or apartments,

11854
06:43:13,878 --> 06:43:15,279
because I know district 2, I

11855
06:43:15,279 --> 06:43:16,800
think it was during

11856
06:43:16,800 --> 06:43:18,800
christmastime during the

11857
06:43:19,160 --> 06:43:22,160
pandemic they had one apartment

11858
06:43:22,190 --> 06:43:23,788
complex sell, but the residents

11859
06:43:23,788 --> 06:43:26,190
knew it was coming because they

11860
06:43:26,190 --> 06:43:29,790
weren't leasing out 0 any of the

11861
06:43:29,861 --> 06:43:31,996
other units, and I know there

11862
06:43:31,996 --> 06:43:33,364
are mobile home park areas in my

11863
06:43:33,364 --> 06:43:36,364
district where they threat at

11864
06:43:36,934 --> 06:43:38,803
that lot of lots go unoccupied.

11865
06:43:38,803 --> 06:43:40,938
>> so we hear about that.

11866
06:43:40,938 --> 06:43:42,740
We don't actively track it and

11867
06:43:42,740 --> 06:43:44,875
we don't track occupancy, per

11868
06:43:44,875 --> 06:43:47,111
se, unless it is something that

11869
06:43:47,111 --> 06:43:49,614
we provides a subsidy to.

11870
06:43:49,614 --> 06:43:51,716
So if it got home funding, it is

11871
06:43:51,716 --> 06:43:54,418
one of the things we ask when we

11872
06:43:54,418 --> 06:43:55,820
do our annual visits, what the

11873
06:43:55,820 --> 06:43:57,488
occupancy levels are.

11874
06:43:57,488 --> 06:43:59,290
But if they didn't receive

11875
06:43:59,290 --> 06:44:01,225
subsidies we don't track it.

11876
06:44:01,225 --> 06:44:01,792
We don't have a contractual

11877
06:44:01,792 --> 06:44:03,792
relationship.

11878
06:44:04,763 --> 06:44:06,163
But we do hear through our fair

11879
06:44:06,163 --> 06:44:07,431
housing counselors and housing

11880
06:44:07,431 --> 06:44:09,300
navigation services, when there

11881
06:44:09,300 --> 06:44:10,334
are things like that in the

11882
06:44:10,334 --> 06:44:12,536
community or the advocates will

11883
06:44:12,536 --> 06:44:15,306
call us and let us know.

11884
06:44:15,306 --> 06:44:17,374
We deploy immediately our

11885
06:44:17,374 --> 06:44:17,976
relocation team to go on

11886
06:44:17,976 --> 06:44:19,976
on-site

11887
06:44:21,612 --> 06:44:22,981
and to help with relocation

11888
06:44:22,981 --> 06:44:24,249
assistance, with counseling.

11889
06:44:24,249 --> 06:44:26,184
We did that in district 2 with a

11890
06:44:26,184 --> 06:44:28,119
couple of properties that are in

11891
06:44:28,119 --> 06:44:29,454
the process of being sold that

11892
06:44:29,454 --> 06:44:30,388
are there to assist families.

11893
06:44:30,388 --> 06:44:33,858
And so even though we don't

11894
06:44:33,858 --> 06:44:35,694
track it, we hear about it, and

11895
06:44:35,694 --> 06:44:38,296
then we have a fast redeployment

11896
06:44:38,296 --> 06:44:40,632
of our team to provide services

11897
06:44:40,632 --> 06:44:41,899
for families that MAY need it.

11898
06:44:41,899 --> 06:44:45,499
When it comes to mobile home

11899
06:44:45,570 --> 06:44:47,505
park communities, our

11900
06:44:47,505 --> 06:44:48,139
anti-displacement

11901
06:44:48,139 --> 06:44:50,274
[Indiscernible] One of the

11902
06:44:50,274 --> 06:44:52,430
specific categories called out

11903
06:44:52,430 --> 06:44:53,377
and so there is a lot more in

11904
06:44:53,377 --> 06:44:53,978
that document as well.

11905
06:44:53,978 --> 06:44:54,846
>> Viagran: okay.

11906
06:44:54,846 --> 06:44:55,913
Thank you.

11907
06:44:55,913 --> 06:44:58,149
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

11908
06:44:58,149 --> 06:44:59,951
councilmember viagran.

11909
06:44:59,951 --> 06:45:01,951
Councilmember cabello havrda

11910
06:45:02,354 --> 06:45:02,720
councilmember councilmember

11911
06:45:02,720 --> 06:45:04,155
cass.

11912
06:45:04,155 --> 06:45:04,356
>> thank you, the conversation

11913
06:45:04,356 --> 06:45:05,723
about.

11914
06:45:05,723 --> 06:45:07,920
>> Castillo: this makes me

11915
06:45:07,920 --> 06:45:09,426
think a lot about the

11916
06:45:09,426 --> 06:45:10,228
conversation we had yesterday

11917
06:45:10,228 --> 06:45:11,563
with cps.

11918
06:45:11,563 --> 06:45:15,163
We need acknowledge we are in

11919
06:45:17,135 --> 06:45:19,971
the midst of various crises,

11920
06:45:19,971 --> 06:45:21,172
economic, ecological all coupled

11921
06:45:21,172 --> 06:45:22,440
with covid-19.

11922
06:45:22,440 --> 06:45:24,775
San antonio has the duty to lead

11923
06:45:24,775 --> 06:45:26,378
in the nation by decarbonizing

11924
06:45:26,378 --> 06:45:28,580
and retrofitting our existing

11925
06:45:28,580 --> 06:45:30,148
affordable housing stock.

11926
06:45:30,148 --> 06:45:32,550
And, you know, again.. We

11927
06:45:32,550 --> 06:45:34,510
conduct surveys and studies, we

11928
06:45:34,510 --> 06:45:35,854
commission these studies like

11929
06:45:35,854 --> 06:45:36,788
the for everyone home that offer

11930
06:45:36,788 --> 06:45:37,755
great policy recommendations and

11931
06:45:37,755 --> 06:45:39,657
need to be sure we follow

11932
06:45:39,657 --> 06:45:40,240
through with those policy

11933
06:45:40,240 --> 06:45:42,240
recommendations.

11934
06:45:42,294 --> 06:45:43,495
One of them of which is the

11935
06:45:43,495 --> 06:45:44,929
under one roof program, minor

11936
06:45:44,929 --> 06:45:46,464
rehab program and several

11937
06:45:46,464 --> 06:45:48,133
others, so not only are we

11938
06:45:48,133 --> 06:45:49,267
addressing and maintaining that

11939
06:45:49,267 --> 06:45:51,267
existing affordable housing

11940
06:45:52,103 --> 06:45:54,706
stock because as beto mentioned

11941
06:45:54,706 --> 06:45:55,841
once you demolish the affordable

11942
06:45:55,841 --> 06:45:57,976
housing that is gone forever.

11943
06:45:57,976 --> 06:45:58,576
So we need to ensure we are

11944
06:45:58,576 --> 06:46:00,378
minimizing community

11945
06:46:00,378 --> 06:46:01,479
displacement by preserving that

11946
06:46:01,479 --> 06:46:01,713
existing affordable housing

11947
06:46:01,713 --> 06:46:02,847
stock.

11948
06:46:02,847 --> 06:46:06,117
And with that being said we need

11949
06:46:06,117 --> 06:46:09,200
to be sure that we restore the

11950
06:46:09,200 --> 06:46:10,355
under one are the program to

11951
06:46:10,355 --> 06:46:13,355
ensure funding we are meeting

11952
06:46:13,624 --> 06:46:14,590
those numbers we are meetings in

11953
06:46:14,590 --> 06:46:16,590
2019, 2018.

11954
06:46:16,600 --> 06:46:18,363
The so my question is, does

11955
06:46:18,363 --> 06:46:21,363
council have the ability to

11956
06:46:21,366 --> 06:46:24,366
allocate more tirz or pfc

11957
06:46:24,536 --> 06:46:24,803
dollars through owner occupied

11958
06:46:24,803 --> 06:46:25,503
rehab?

11959
06:46:25,503 --> 06:46:26,471
>> yes, ma'am.

11960
06:46:26,471 --> 06:46:28,471
Yes, ma'am.

11961
06:46:28,540 --> 06:46:30,341
That is definitely a source that

11962
06:46:30,341 --> 06:46:33,941
we could look at during the

11963
06:46:37,883 --> 06:46:39,883
summer, yes.

11964
06:46:40,886 --> 06:46:43,286
>> Castillo: and my next

11965
06:46:44,422 --> 06:46:46,658
question, it is, I want to --

11966
06:46:46,658 --> 06:46:48,960
showed up to the sacred heart

11967
06:46:48,960 --> 06:46:49,628
church and helped them complete

11968
06:46:49,628 --> 06:46:50,395
the application for the

11969
06:46:50,395 --> 06:46:52,297
emergency assistance program and

11970
06:46:52,297 --> 06:46:53,998
she was there for hours.

11971
06:46:53,998 --> 06:46:55,400
We had applicants coming in and

11972
06:46:55,400 --> 06:46:57,169
just nonstop and she was there

11973
06:46:57,169 --> 06:46:58,904
helping us make sure that folks

11974
06:46:58,904 --> 06:46:59,137
-- I wanted to thank you for

11975
06:46:59,137 --> 06:47:00,339
that.

11976
06:47:00,339 --> 06:47:03,141
In addition to that, I think it

11977
06:47:03,141 --> 06:47:05,677
is important that we continue to

11978
06:47:05,677 --> 06:47:05,910
fund the right to counsel

11979
06:47:05,910 --> 06:47:07,746
program.

11980
06:47:07,746 --> 06:47:09,514
I believe someone asked why the

11981
06:47:09,514 --> 06:47:10,783
funding was decreased, that is

11982
06:47:10,783 --> 06:47:13,783
because of the kiosk purchase;

11983
06:47:14,819 --> 06:47:15,420
is that correct?

11984
06:47:15,420 --> 06:47:17,420
All right.

11985
06:47:19,924 --> 06:47:21,924
Thank you.

11986
06:47:22,628 --> 06:47:25,280
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

11987
06:47:26,731 --> 06:47:28,267
councilmember castillo.

11988
06:47:28,267 --> 06:47:30,267
Councilmember rodriguez.

11989
06:47:30,468 --> 06:47:33,238
>> MR. Rodriguez: I would like

11990
06:47:33,238 --> 06:47:33,939
to echo to sentiments of

11991
06:47:33,939 --> 06:47:34,606
councilmember cabello havrda

11992
06:47:34,606 --> 06:47:35,574
city owe.

11993
06:47:35,574 --> 06:47:37,575
I know perry would not like to

11994
06:47:37,575 --> 06:47:39,711
see this but I would like to see

11995
06:47:39,711 --> 06:47:41,680
an guidelines the owner occupied

11996
06:47:41,680 --> 06:47:42,380
funding as well as the under one

11997
06:47:42,380 --> 06:47:44,283
roof program, I would like to

11998
06:47:44,283 --> 06:47:45,817
see that funded to pre-pandemic

11999
06:47:45,817 --> 06:47:48,486
levels as well which I believe

12000
06:47:48,486 --> 06:47:50,486
was at 2.5 million.

12001
06:47:50,622 --> 06:47:51,723
I also would like to request..

12002
06:47:51,723 --> 06:47:54,123
Thinking specifically about the

12003
06:47:56,327 --> 06:47:58,363
hotel we just approved the lease

12004
06:47:58,363 --> 06:47:59,798
for o I would like to request

12005
06:47:59,798 --> 06:48:01,366
additional funding for on-site

12006
06:48:01,366 --> 06:48:03,368
kennel services and I want to

12007
06:48:03,368 --> 06:48:06,304
stress the importance of that,

12008
06:48:06,304 --> 06:48:07,639
because these animals, they are

12009
06:48:07,639 --> 06:48:09,541
-- these people's babies and

12010
06:48:09,541 --> 06:48:12,541
tear family and sometimes their

12011
06:48:14,647 --> 06:48:16,515
connection to humanity, and to

12012
06:48:16,515 --> 06:48:18,317
dignity, and it is one of the

12013
06:48:18,317 --> 06:48:19,385
largest barriers that exist to

12014
06:48:19,385 --> 06:48:23,540
entry and I think any barrier at

12015
06:48:23,540 --> 06:48:24,722
all is unacceptable.

12016
06:48:24,722 --> 06:48:27,722
And there is a homeless

12017
06:48:28,727 --> 06:48:30,229
encampment under the I-37, and

12018
06:48:30,229 --> 06:48:32,631
you could point to the hotel

12019
06:48:32,631 --> 06:48:33,933
from there and so any barrier to

12020
06:48:33,933 --> 06:48:36,100
people there getting access to

12021
06:48:36,100 --> 06:48:36,535
that hotel I think is

12022
06:48:36,535 --> 06:48:38,470
unacceptable.

12023
06:48:38,470 --> 06:48:41,306
But I would like to reiterate my

12024
06:48:41,306 --> 06:48:42,441
request for additional funding

12025
06:48:42,441 --> 06:48:44,441
there.

12026
06:48:47,379 --> 06:48:47,713
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

12027
06:48:47,713 --> 06:48:49,713
councilmember.

12028
06:48:52,684 --> 06:48:53,685
>> McKee-Rodriguez:.

12029
06:48:53,685 --> 06:48:54,453
Councilmember sandoval.

12030
06:48:54,453 --> 06:48:55,530
>> Sandoval:, thank you,

12031
06:48:55,530 --> 06:48:55,554
mayor.

12032
06:48:55,554 --> 06:48:57,954
Way tonight explore the

12033
06:48:58,290 --> 06:49:00,126
possibility of tirz funding for

12034
06:49:00,126 --> 06:49:01,660
these programs that help people

12035
06:49:01,660 --> 06:49:03,128
stay in their house.

12036
06:49:03,128 --> 06:49:04,396
I know foul all tirz are

12037
06:49:04,396 --> 06:49:05,731
creating equal so I think we

12038
06:49:05,731 --> 06:49:07,533
probably would want to be a

12039
06:49:07,533 --> 06:49:09,901
little bit careful and look at

12040
06:49:09,901 --> 06:49:12,938
where some of the housing costs

12041
06:49:12,938 --> 06:49:15,140
.. Have sky rocked more because

12042
06:49:15,140 --> 06:49:16,441
of this -- the developments.

12043
06:49:16,441 --> 06:49:20,379
That will be a bit of an art.

12044
06:49:20,379 --> 06:49:23,315
I also support expanding the

12045
06:49:23,315 --> 06:49:25,117
funding for the owner occupied

12046
06:49:25,117 --> 06:49:29,221
rehab, but I also would like to

12047
06:49:29,221 --> 06:49:31,423
see us before -- before we begin

12048
06:49:31,423 --> 06:49:33,358
ensuring that large developers

12049
06:49:33,358 --> 06:49:34,930
that are affordable stay

12050
06:49:34,930 --> 06:49:35,895
affordable, I think question

12051
06:49:35,895 --> 06:49:37,529
also need to look at the ones

12052
06:49:37,529 --> 06:49:40,299
occupied -- I am sorry, operated

12053
06:49:40,299 --> 06:49:40,699
by mom and pops and our local

12054
06:49:40,699 --> 06:49:42,699
residents.

12055
06:49:42,768 --> 06:49:44,703
For them, having the additional

12056
06:49:44,703 --> 06:49:46,738
property that they rent out

12057
06:49:46,738 --> 06:49:48,507
helps them stay in their home

12058
06:49:48,507 --> 06:49:50,709
and helps them offset their

12059
06:49:50,709 --> 06:49:52,244
property tax payments.

12060
06:49:52,244 --> 06:49:56,415
So whether it is a four-plex or

12061
06:49:56,415 --> 06:49:57,282
a three plex or a ten plex, I do

12062
06:49:57,282 --> 06:49:58,160
think it is important to look

12063
06:49:58,160 --> 06:49:59,218
into that.

12064
06:49:59,218 --> 06:50:00,452
Are there any mechanisms that we

12065
06:50:00,452 --> 06:50:03,452
have available to do something

12066
06:50:07,930 --> 06:50:09,930
like that?

12067
06:50:10,290 --> 06:50:12,290
>> so the housing

12068
06:50:12,164 --> 06:50:14,564
[Indiscernible] Part of the

12069
06:50:14,600 --> 06:50:16,202
charge of that group would be to

12070
06:50:16,202 --> 06:50:17,336
track what is naturally

12071
06:50:17,336 --> 06:50:19,336
occurring affordable housing.

12072
06:50:19,738 --> 06:50:21,140
And it wouldn't matter if it was

12073
06:50:21,140 --> 06:50:22,808
large development or a smaller

12074
06:50:22,808 --> 06:50:25,845
one, and it would be more

12075
06:50:25,845 --> 06:50:27,914
proactive about those small mom

12076
06:50:27,914 --> 06:50:29,615
and pop communities.

12077
06:50:29,615 --> 06:50:30,582
And so right now, our

12078
06:50:30,582 --> 06:50:32,584
partnership, we are working very

12079
06:50:32,584 --> 06:50:35,387
closely on both the -- there is

12080
06:50:35,387 --> 06:50:36,722
a property management

12081
06:50:36,722 --> 06:50:37,856
association, the san antonio

12082
06:50:37,856 --> 06:50:40,159
apartment so association to make

12083
06:50:40,159 --> 06:50:42,294
sure we reach out to those

12084
06:50:42,294 --> 06:50:44,263
local, smaller owners, and look

12085
06:50:44,263 --> 06:50:46,899
at the smaller units as well.

12086
06:50:46,899 --> 06:50:49,501
So they have access to the funds

12087
06:50:49,501 --> 06:50:52,305
as well to make sure that they

12088
06:50:52,305 --> 06:50:53,706
can rehab their units, those

12089
06:50:53,706 --> 06:50:55,108
rents can remain affordable as

12090
06:50:55,108 --> 06:50:57,242
well in the future.

12091
06:50:57,242 --> 06:50:59,678
>> I apologize if I missed this.

12092
06:50:59,678 --> 06:50:59,912
What is funding level for that

12093
06:50:59,912 --> 06:51:01,912
program?

12094
06:51:01,948 --> 06:51:03,348
>> that would be -- that is part

12095
06:51:03,348 --> 06:51:05,748
of the gap financing.

12096
06:51:05,918 --> 06:51:08,621
We are going make sure that we

12097
06:51:08,621 --> 06:51:10,323
set aside funding for

12098
06:51:10,323 --> 06:51:12,791
preservation so that when we do

12099
06:51:12,791 --> 06:51:15,628
the rsqs, rfps for those, that

12100
06:51:15,628 --> 06:51:18,431
we have a set-aside specific to

12101
06:51:18,431 --> 06:51:20,532
preservation of units, and it

12102
06:51:20,532 --> 06:51:21,400
doesn't all go to new

12103
06:51:21,400 --> 06:51:23,169
development, per se, so it is

12104
06:51:23,169 --> 06:51:24,570
going to be the gap funding.

12105
06:51:24,570 --> 06:51:26,972
>> I think we should set a

12106
06:51:26,972 --> 06:51:29,800
target as a council for that.

12107
06:51:29,800 --> 06:51:30,576
Last -- a few months ago we went

12108
06:51:30,576 --> 06:51:32,178
through an exercise of where we

12109
06:51:32,178 --> 06:51:33,679
are awarding some gap financing

12110
06:51:33,679 --> 06:51:36,679
and my understanding was that

12111
06:51:38,417 --> 06:51:41,754
there were not any bids for

12112
06:51:41,754 --> 06:51:43,155
rehab, and -- which I think

12113
06:51:43,155 --> 06:51:45,158
really is -- ask maybe not a

12114
06:51:45,158 --> 06:51:47,460
lack of interest but maybe

12115
06:51:47,460 --> 06:51:48,661
barriers to entry to the program

12116
06:51:48,661 --> 06:51:49,496
or maybe barriers in learning

12117
06:51:49,496 --> 06:51:52,398
about the program, because there

12118
06:51:52,398 --> 06:51:54,967
is who doubt that there is a

12119
06:51:54,967 --> 06:51:57,236
need, so I would really, the I

12120
06:51:57,236 --> 06:51:58,437
would like for us to set a

12121
06:51:58,437 --> 06:51:59,972
target for that minimum amount.

12122
06:51:59,972 --> 06:52:02,242
>> we will make sure as we

12123
06:52:02,242 --> 06:52:02,474
develop the rfps we do set those

12124
06:52:02,474 --> 06:52:04,474
targets.

12125
06:52:06,245 --> 06:52:08,470
>> thank you very much.

12126
06:52:08,470 --> 06:52:09,214
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

12127
06:52:09,214 --> 06:52:09,682
councilmember sandoval.

12128
06:52:09,682 --> 06:52:10,349
Councilmember perry.

12129
06:52:10,349 --> 06:52:11,817
>> Perry: thank you.

12130
06:52:11,817 --> 06:52:16,170
I just have a couple of quick

12131
06:52:16,880 --> 06:52:18,357
additional questions and my

12132
06:52:18,357 --> 06:52:20,760
colleague -- yeah, I got a

12133
06:52:20,760 --> 06:52:23,160
problem with increasing these.

12134
06:52:23,762 --> 06:52:26,432
And I guess what I am getting at

12135
06:52:26,432 --> 06:52:29,635
is, if anybody has gotten the

12136
06:52:29,635 --> 06:52:30,936
universe or an estimate of the

12137
06:52:30,936 --> 06:52:31,671
total number of houses which

12138
06:52:31,671 --> 06:52:31,937
would be eligible for these

12139
06:52:31,937 --> 06:52:33,937
programs?

12140
06:52:33,940 --> 06:52:35,274
I mean are we talking about 100?

12141
06:52:35,274 --> 06:52:36,743
1,000?

12142
06:52:36,743 --> 06:52:38,743
10,000?

12143
06:52:38,911 --> 06:52:40,911
100,000 homes?

12144
06:52:41,747 --> 06:52:43,315
What is -- I am looking at the

12145
06:52:43,315 --> 06:52:45,315
universe of requirements.

12146
06:52:45,618 --> 06:52:47,987
>> we don't have that, because

12147
06:52:47,987 --> 06:52:49,421
there are so many other factors

12148
06:52:49,421 --> 06:52:51,457
that play into this, whether or

12149
06:52:51,457 --> 06:52:52,292
not they qualify, through their

12150
06:52:52,292 --> 06:52:52,758
income, whether or not they

12151
06:52:52,758 --> 06:52:54,460
qualify because they

12152
06:52:54,460 --> 06:52:55,462
they are a

12153
06:52:55,462 --> 06:52:56,496
veteran.

12154
06:52:56,496 --> 06:52:59,132
And whether or not their home

12155
06:52:59,132 --> 06:53:00,133
needs this type of assistance.

12156
06:53:00,133 --> 06:53:00,433
So we don't have that

12157
06:53:00,433 --> 06:53:02,433
information.

12158
06:53:03,269 --> 06:53:05,971
We do have an applicant pool,

12159
06:53:05,971 --> 06:53:08,407
and so we can get you how many

12160
06:53:08,407 --> 06:53:09,675
applicants we receive annually,

12161
06:53:09,675 --> 06:53:09,875
and that could be a starting

12162
06:53:09,875 --> 06:53:10,376
point.

12163
06:53:10,376 --> 06:53:11,711
>> Perry: yes.

12164
06:53:11,711 --> 06:53:12,979
That would be a starting point

12165
06:53:12,979 --> 06:53:15,548
but I think at some point in

12166
06:53:15,548 --> 06:53:17,717
time, we have -- I mean, it

12167
06:53:17,717 --> 06:53:18,785
looks like this is going to be

12168
06:53:18,785 --> 06:53:21,121
another program that keeps

12169
06:53:21,121 --> 06:53:24,121
growing and growing and growing

12170
06:53:25,825 --> 06:53:26,392
year after year and I think we

12171
06:53:26,392 --> 06:53:26,993
need though what the

12172
06:53:26,993 --> 06:53:29,393
requirements are for this.

12173
06:53:30,897 --> 06:53:32,365
I mean, are we spinning our

12174
06:53:32,365 --> 06:53:34,467
wheels or are we going to up the

12175
06:53:34,467 --> 06:53:38,670
amounts to really take care of

12176
06:53:38,871 --> 06:53:41,271
what everybody wants, preserving

12177
06:53:42,174 --> 06:53:44,174
the housing stock?

12178
06:53:45,111 --> 06:53:46,379
But, you know, yeah, I don't

12179
06:53:46,379 --> 06:53:48,982
think we have a good handle on

12180
06:53:48,982 --> 06:53:50,383
what the requirement is in order

12181
06:53:50,383 --> 06:53:53,686
to see, are we ever going to be

12182
06:53:53,686 --> 06:53:56,860
able to afford this.

12183
06:53:57,924 --> 06:53:59,959
And these people pay taxes as

12184
06:53:59,959 --> 06:54:00,794
well, and that whole issue that

12185
06:54:00,794 --> 06:54:02,562
comes in.

12186
06:54:02,562 --> 06:54:04,163
And then you said you have an

12187
06:54:04,163 --> 06:54:05,231
application process.

12188
06:54:05,231 --> 06:54:08,231
Who actually picks the winners

12189
06:54:08,701 --> 06:54:09,101
and losers of getting this money

12190
06:54:09,101 --> 06:54:10,303
money?

12191
06:54:10,303 --> 06:54:12,710
>> there are not winners and

12192
06:54:12,710 --> 06:54:13,600
losers, it is first come, first

12193
06:54:13,600 --> 06:54:13,472
serve, they submit the

12194
06:54:13,472 --> 06:54:14,207
application.

12195
06:54:14,207 --> 06:54:16,800
>> Perry: if there are a

12196
06:54:16,800 --> 06:54:17,477
number of applications snrb is

12197
06:54:17,477 --> 06:54:19,645
going to -- I look at it, win

12198
06:54:19,645 --> 06:54:20,580
and somebody is going to lose by

12199
06:54:20,580 --> 06:54:22,415
getting their house done.

12200
06:54:22,415 --> 06:54:23,182
>> it is administered by housing

12201
06:54:23,182 --> 06:54:23,850
and neighborhood services.

12202
06:54:23,850 --> 06:54:24,451
>> Perry: okay.

12203
06:54:24,451 --> 06:54:26,186
All right.

12204
06:54:26,186 --> 06:54:26,352
That's what I want to make sure

12205
06:54:26,352 --> 06:54:27,120
of.

12206
06:54:27,120 --> 06:54:27,320
The okay.

12207
06:54:27,320 --> 06:54:28,455
Great.

12208
06:54:28,455 --> 06:54:29,356
That's all my comments, thanks.

12209
06:54:29,356 --> 06:54:30,824
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

12210
06:54:30,824 --> 06:54:32,824
councilmember perry.

12211
06:54:33,527 --> 06:54:34,627
Councilmember courage.

12212
06:54:34,627 --> 06:54:36,395
>> Courage: this might

12213
06:54:36,395 --> 06:54:38,898
reprinted -- I might remind my

12214
06:54:38,898 --> 06:54:39,733
friend and colleague that

12215
06:54:39,733 --> 06:54:41,733
everything grows.

12216
06:54:41,901 --> 06:54:44,137
The city grows, houses and

12217
06:54:44,137 --> 06:54:45,371
people come here every day,

12218
06:54:45,371 --> 06:54:47,306
every year, so receiving going

12219
06:54:47,306 --> 06:54:50,243
to continue to grow, nothing is

12220
06:54:50,243 --> 06:54:52,546
going to shrink and go away.

12221
06:54:52,546 --> 06:54:54,247
I do have a question about

12222
06:54:54,247 --> 06:54:56,583
homeless, which I brought up at

12223
06:54:56,583 --> 06:54:57,783
a previous meeting, because

12224
06:54:57,783 --> 06:54:58,985
we -- you know, we want to keep

12225
06:54:58,985 --> 06:55:00,654
people in a home.

12226
06:55:00,654 --> 06:55:01,521
We don't want to have more

12227
06:55:01,521 --> 06:55:02,421
homeless, and we are spending

12228
06:55:02,421 --> 06:55:04,591
millions of dollars to help

12229
06:55:04,591 --> 06:55:05,459
people stay in their homes.

12230
06:55:05,459 --> 06:55:07,127
Or get a new home.

12231
06:55:07,127 --> 06:55:07,393
But how much are we spending on

12232
06:55:07,393 --> 06:55:09,296
homeless?

12233
06:55:09,296 --> 06:55:11,664
I asked maria to kind of find

12234
06:55:11,664 --> 06:55:14,500
out about this, because we have

12235
06:55:14,500 --> 06:55:16,690
other agencies, we have our

12236
06:55:16,690 --> 06:55:18,472
organization, you know, so I

12237
06:55:18,472 --> 06:55:19,773
haven't gotten that answer yet.

12238
06:55:19,773 --> 06:55:22,909
And I think that is part of what

12239
06:55:22,909 --> 06:55:24,430
I think we would all like to

12240
06:55:24,430 --> 06:55:25,912
know, and are there better ways

12241
06:55:25,912 --> 06:55:27,912
of addressing homeless?

12242
06:55:28,480 --> 06:55:29,716
For example, we are adding

12243
06:55:29,716 --> 06:55:31,618
$2 million to the trial budget

12244
06:55:31,618 --> 06:55:31,885
for additional funding for

12245
06:55:31,885 --> 06:55:33,885
homeless.

12246
06:55:35,121 --> 06:55:36,423
Well, maybe that $2 million comm

12247
06:55:36,423 --> 06:55:38,592
into some of our affordable

12248
06:55:38,592 --> 06:55:40,260
housing and be more effective

12249
06:55:40,260 --> 06:55:41,600
when we look at what everyone

12250
06:55:41,600 --> 06:55:42,395
else is doing with homeless.

12251
06:55:42,395 --> 06:55:43,663
So do we have any response to

12252
06:55:43,663 --> 06:55:47,863
that request I made other day or

12253
06:55:48,101 --> 06:55:48,902
are we still researching?

12254
06:55:48,902 --> 06:55:50,902
>>

12255
06:55:52,906 --> 06:55:55,242
>> well, while that is coming

12256
06:55:55,242 --> 06:55:57,770
up, COUNCILMAN, I will echo that

12257
06:55:57,770 --> 06:55:59,880
was an issue that I think the

12258
06:55:59,880 --> 06:56:01,314
council brought up on last

12259
06:56:01,314 --> 06:56:02,849
wednesday and if the desire is

12260
06:56:02,849 --> 06:56:04,417
maybe to spend more here or in

12261
06:56:04,417 --> 06:56:05,518
another area, that certainly is

12262
06:56:05,518 --> 06:56:06,860
an option.

12263
06:56:06,860 --> 06:56:07,721
>>

12264
06:56:07,721 --> 06:56:09,220
option.

12265
06:56:09,220 --> 06:56:10,623
I would like to see us spend

12266
06:56:10,623 --> 06:56:11,792
less on homeless and more in

12267
06:56:11,792 --> 06:56:14,728
other areas if we have

12268
06:56:14,728 --> 06:56:16,663
repetitive and redundant

12269
06:56:16,663 --> 06:56:18,999
services done by a multiple

12270
06:56:18,999 --> 06:56:19,566
number of organizations so, what

12271
06:56:19,566 --> 06:56:21,566
do you know?

12272
06:56:22,703 --> 06:56:23,837
>> so and to that answer that

12273
06:56:23,837 --> 06:56:24,271
last question councilmember, as

12274
06:56:24,271 --> 06:56:25,439
the great question.

12275
06:56:25,439 --> 06:56:28,742
Do we have services that are

12276
06:56:28,742 --> 06:56:30,410
being done by multiple agencies,

12277
06:56:30,410 --> 06:56:32,712
but I wouldn't say they were

12278
06:56:32,712 --> 06:56:33,647
redundant or repetitive.

12279
06:56:33,647 --> 06:56:35,415
They are enough to cover the

12280
06:56:35,415 --> 06:56:37,217
number of people, so we have

12281
06:56:37,217 --> 06:56:40,217
multiple agencies that do rapid

12282
06:56:40,387 --> 06:56:42,890
rehousing but we have multiple

12283
06:56:42,890 --> 06:56:44,224
people that need rapid

12284
06:56:44,224 --> 06:56:45,292
rehousing, and as far as your

12285
06:56:45,292 --> 06:56:46,593
question about the total funding

12286
06:56:46,593 --> 06:56:48,728
that is being spent in the

12287
06:56:48,728 --> 06:56:50,964
community, we are still

12288
06:56:50,964 --> 06:56:52,964
researching that, looking

12289
06:56:53,367 --> 06:56:55,336
through federal, state, local

12290
06:56:55,336 --> 06:56:56,403
sources, trying to also get an

12291
06:56:56,403 --> 06:56:57,771
assessment on some of the

12292
06:56:57,771 --> 06:56:59,730
private foundation dollars that

12293
06:56:59,730 --> 06:57:00,641
are out there, and working with

12294
06:57:00,641 --> 06:57:03,109
the budget department to make

12295
06:57:03,109 --> 06:57:04,878
sure that our internal amounts

12296
06:57:04,878 --> 06:57:07,147
are correct and updated.

12297
06:57:07,147 --> 06:57:10,684
So we should have that for you

12298
06:57:10,684 --> 06:57:10,884
probably in the next week to two

12299
06:57:10,884 --> 06:57:11,551
weeks.

12300
06:57:11,551 --> 06:57:12,853
>> Courage: good.

12301
06:57:12,853 --> 06:57:14,454
I would say from what you just

12302
06:57:14,454 --> 06:57:16,854
said there are multiple

12303
06:57:16,857 --> 06:57:17,791
organizations doing rapid

12304
06:57:17,791 --> 06:57:18,925
rehousing, then you know, they

12305
06:57:18,925 --> 06:57:21,962
need to talk to themselves and

12306
06:57:21,962 --> 06:57:23,397
we need to find one agency that

12307
06:57:23,397 --> 06:57:24,665
can serve everybody and let

12308
06:57:24,665 --> 06:57:27,665
those others do something else

12309
06:57:27,868 --> 06:57:29,636
that is related to homeless or

12310
06:57:29,636 --> 06:57:31,710
let's not be funding them.

12311
06:57:31,710 --> 06:57:31,672
Let's put that money into some

12312
06:57:31,672 --> 06:57:32,506
place else.

12313
06:57:32,506 --> 06:57:33,707
So that's why I this

12314
06:57:33,707 --> 06:57:34,908
I think it is

12315
06:57:34,908 --> 06:57:35,142
important to hear more about

12316
06:57:35,142 --> 06:57:36,443
that.

12317
06:57:36,443 --> 06:57:38,278
And believe me, I am not trying

12318
06:57:38,278 --> 06:57:38,979
to say we shouldn't be helping

12319
06:57:38,979 --> 06:57:40,979
homeless people.

12320
06:57:41,114 --> 06:57:41,982
But I think we need to know how

12321
06:57:41,982 --> 06:57:44,251
much we are actually spending.

12322
06:57:44,251 --> 06:57:46,530
>> and we will provide more

12323
06:57:46,530 --> 06:57:47,988
information on that when we do

12324
06:57:47,988 --> 06:57:49,988
our budget presentation.

12325
06:57:51,225 --> 06:57:51,358
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you

12326
06:57:51,358 --> 06:57:53,326
--

12327
06:57:53,326 --> 06:57:54,528
>> I hope all of us are thinking

12328
06:57:54,528 --> 06:57:56,764
about the issue that was voted

12329
06:57:56,764 --> 06:57:59,764
on last NOVEMBER, proposition --

12330
06:57:59,934 --> 06:58:01,101
excuse me, MAY, proposition a,

12331
06:58:01,101 --> 06:58:03,404
which enables the city to go

12332
06:58:03,404 --> 06:58:05,439
ahead and become more of a

12333
06:58:05,439 --> 06:58:07,839
partner in housing development

12334
06:58:09,243 --> 06:58:10,677
and I for one would like to see

12335
06:58:10,677 --> 06:58:13,677
$50 million on our next bond

12336
06:58:15,416 --> 06:58:16,984
issue dedicated to helping

12337
06:58:16,984 --> 06:58:18,319
develop affordable housing and

12338
06:58:18,319 --> 06:58:19,520
allowing the city to become a

12339
06:58:19,520 --> 06:58:21,255
partner in that.

12340
06:58:21,255 --> 06:58:22,456
Thank you.

12341
06:58:22,456 --> 06:58:22,923
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

12342
06:58:22,923 --> 06:58:23,857
councilmember courage.

12343
06:58:23,857 --> 06:58:25,493
And to close out the discussion

12344
06:58:25,493 --> 06:58:27,762
I think it is a point

12345
06:58:27,762 --> 06:58:30,297
well-taken, it is primarily the

12346
06:58:30,297 --> 06:58:32,990
question that caused the mayor's

12347
06:58:32,990 --> 06:58:34,568
housing policy task force, which

12348
06:58:34,568 --> 06:58:35,736
is how do we ensure community

12349
06:58:35,736 --> 06:58:36,938
where everyone can live

12350
06:58:36,938 --> 06:58:37,871
affordability and with dignity

12351
06:58:37,871 --> 06:58:39,473
and safety?

12352
06:58:39,473 --> 06:58:41,375
And the point is, if we don't

12353
06:58:41,375 --> 06:58:44,780
take care of upstream issues, we

12354
06:58:44,780 --> 06:58:44,311
have to deal with downstream

12355
06:58:44,311 --> 06:58:46,460
effects.

12356
06:58:46,460 --> 06:58:47,114
It is same on the public safety

12357
06:58:47,114 --> 06:58:48,549
side of the discussion as it is

12358
06:58:48,549 --> 06:58:52,860
on the health side as it is on

12359
06:58:52,860 --> 06:58:56,286
the housing side, and so we are

12360
06:58:57,191 --> 06:58:59,930
reaping what we seau sew and..

12361
06:58:59,930 --> 06:59:00,527
I don't think we can turn the

12362
06:59:00,527 --> 06:59:02,229
spigot off all of a sudden but

12363
06:59:02,229 --> 06:59:05,399
if go to the a point where

12364
06:59:05,399 --> 06:59:08,350
dedidn't have to fund services

12365
06:59:08,350 --> 06:59:09,970
related to homelessness then we

12366
06:59:09,970 --> 06:59:11,639
can say we are dealing with the

12367
06:59:11,639 --> 06:59:13,441
people not having a house.

12368
06:59:13,441 --> 06:59:14,375
Or excuse me being homeless is

12369
06:59:14,375 --> 06:59:15,810
not just having a house.

12370
06:59:15,810 --> 06:59:16,877
There are so many other root

12371
06:59:16,877 --> 06:59:19,790
causes that are associated that

12372
06:59:19,790 --> 06:59:21,479
need to be addressed.

12373
06:59:23,117 --> 06:59:25,920
And beto, just in reflecting you

12374
06:59:25,920 --> 06:59:28,550
mentioned something, you said

12375
06:59:28,550 --> 06:59:28,289
naturally occurring affordable

12376
06:59:28,289 --> 06:59:30,289
housing.

12377
06:59:30,691 --> 06:59:32,760
That sounds like an endangered

12378
06:59:32,760 --> 06:59:34,662
or extinct animal.

12379
06:59:34,662 --> 06:59:35,696
>> do we have naturally

12380
06:59:35,696 --> 06:59:36,163
occurring affordable housing in

12381
06:59:36,163 --> 06:59:37,931
this community?

12382
06:59:37,931 --> 06:59:39,931
>> we do.

12383
06:59:40,501 --> 06:59:44,101
So that term referred to housing

12384
06:59:45,406 --> 06:59:47,408
that doesn't get subsidies.

12385
06:59:47,408 --> 06:59:49,277
And so the there are a lot of

12386
06:59:49,277 --> 06:59:49,944
houses rented out that are --

12387
06:59:49,944 --> 06:59:51,450
>> Mayor Nirenberg: fair

12388
06:59:51,450 --> 06:59:51,612
enough, but is it being

12389
06:59:51,612 --> 06:59:53,612
produced?

12390
06:59:53,848 --> 06:59:55,482
Are there new naturally

12391
06:59:55,482 --> 06:59:57,482
occurring affordable housing

12392
06:59:58,452 --> 06:59:58,686
being constructed today in san

12393
06:59:58,686 --> 07:00:00,221
antonio?

12394
07:00:00,221 --> 07:00:01,489
>> that's a really good

12395
07:00:01,489 --> 07:00:02,489
question, and I would like to

12396
07:00:02,489 --> 07:00:03,558
get back to you on that.

12397
07:00:03,558 --> 07:00:05,558
>> Mayor Nirenberg: right.

12398
07:00:08,290 --> 07:00:10,464
My guess would be probably not,

12399
07:00:10,464 --> 07:00:12,333
but it is falling a severely

12400
07:00:12,333 --> 07:00:14,635
short of the population's needs.

12401
07:00:14,635 --> 07:00:17,505
And that is why we get into the

12402
07:00:17,505 --> 07:00:19,540
business of housing bonds,

12403
07:00:19,540 --> 07:00:22,243
housing trusts, any number of

12404
07:00:22,243 --> 07:00:25,112
deals that are trying to improve

12405
07:00:25,112 --> 07:00:26,314
the supply of outstanding.

12406
07:00:26,314 --> 07:00:28,349
And really, what we have

12407
07:00:28,349 --> 07:00:31,850
long-term to deal with, and if

12408
07:00:31,850 --> 07:00:32,920
we don't deal with it we will

12409
07:00:32,920 --> 07:00:34,121
have an even bigger crisis on

12410
07:00:34,121 --> 07:00:36,724
our hands that we currently do

12411
07:00:36,724 --> 07:00:38,326
is a lack of supply to meet the

12412
07:00:38,326 --> 07:00:41,862
demands of housing of all times

12413
07:00:41,862 --> 07:00:43,300
which is why I agree with what

12414
07:00:43,300 --> 07:00:44,598
councilmember pelaez said.

12415
07:00:44,598 --> 07:00:46,330
If we don't create housing of a

12416
07:00:46,330 --> 07:00:49,330
certain ami it creates pressure

12417
07:00:49,136 --> 07:00:52,440
on the ami below it, because of

12418
07:00:52,440 --> 07:00:54,440
investment behavior.

12419
07:00:54,642 --> 07:00:55,510
So, you know, I am reflecting on

12420
07:00:55,510 --> 07:00:57,378
this and there is -- there is

12421
07:00:57,378 --> 07:01:00,414
also always a desire to go back

12422
07:01:00,414 --> 07:01:01,850
in time and you know, put

12423
07:01:01,850 --> 07:01:03,150
requirements on where we were

12424
07:01:03,150 --> 07:01:06,520
before, so we can have things

12425
07:01:06,520 --> 07:01:08,355
today that we didn't -- that we

12426
07:01:08,355 --> 07:01:10,659
don't, but I remember the

12427
07:01:10,659 --> 07:01:13,590
housing conversation in earnest

12428
07:01:13,995 --> 07:01:15,960
in this city began with mayor

12429
07:01:15,960 --> 07:01:16,430
castro in the decade of downtown

12430
07:01:16,430 --> 07:01:18,733
and the reason for that was, and

12431
07:01:18,733 --> 07:01:19,100
there was no affordability

12432
07:01:19,100 --> 07:01:21,100
criteria then.

12433
07:01:21,635 --> 07:01:23,537
The reason was that there was no

12434
07:01:23,537 --> 07:01:25,306
naturally occurring housing,

12435
07:01:25,306 --> 07:01:26,641
period, of any kind, in the

12436
07:01:26,641 --> 07:01:28,543
urban core, and that was

12437
07:01:28,543 --> 07:01:30,943
creating an affordability crisis

12438
07:01:31,790 --> 07:01:32,460
for the entire community in the

12439
07:01:32,460 --> 07:01:33,381
urban core.

12440
07:01:33,381 --> 07:01:34,649
So I just want to be really

12441
07:01:34,649 --> 07:01:36,451
careful as we move forward in

12442
07:01:36,451 --> 07:01:39,887
the discussion that we are not

12443
07:01:39,887 --> 07:01:41,256
just -- we are not closing the

12444
07:01:41,256 --> 07:01:43,291
door on our ability to be

12445
07:01:43,291 --> 07:01:43,959
creative to produce housing that

12446
07:01:43,959 --> 07:01:45,826
isn't naturally occurring.

12447
07:01:45,826 --> 07:01:47,896
There are others that we have to

12448
07:01:47,896 --> 07:01:50,131
deal with as well, and I would

12449
07:01:50,131 --> 07:01:51,665
add to it, workforce development

12450
07:01:51,665 --> 07:01:53,468
being one of them.

12451
07:01:53,468 --> 07:01:57,380
The other side of this ledger is

12452
07:01:57,380 --> 07:01:58,907
that we are at 60 percent ami

12453
07:01:58,907 --> 07:02:01,907
because our median income is

12454
07:02:04,178 --> 07:02:05,380
failing to compete with our pier peer

12455
07:02:05,380 --> 07:02:06,248
cities so this is a

12456
07:02:06,248 --> 07:02:07,148
comprehensive discussion and I

12457
07:02:07,148 --> 07:02:09,830
want to make sure we are

12458
07:02:09,830 --> 07:02:10,285
approaching it the right way and

12459
07:02:10,285 --> 07:02:12,190
ultimately the metric we should

12460
07:02:12,190 --> 07:02:15,230
be looking at, in my opinion, is

12461
07:02:15,230 --> 07:02:16,391
supply of housing at every ami

12462
07:02:16,391 --> 07:02:19,728
level to meet the demand that is

12463
07:02:19,728 --> 07:02:21,728
in that bracket.

12464
07:02:21,996 --> 07:02:23,198
So erik, you said our av folks

12465
07:02:23,198 --> 07:02:26,534
who have been doing a heck of a

12466
07:02:26,534 --> 07:02:26,801
job today, have not had a single

12467
07:02:26,801 --> 07:02:27,869
break.

12468
07:02:27,869 --> 07:02:28,636
We do have the council

12469
07:02:28,636 --> 07:02:30,405
discussion to get to.

12470
07:02:30,405 --> 07:02:32,641
We are clearly going to go a

12471
07:02:32,641 --> 07:02:35,641
little bit over time today.

12472
07:02:37,512 --> 07:02:39,347
So if we can, if my colleagues

12473
07:02:39,347 --> 07:02:41,616
could take a ten-minute break

12474
07:02:41,616 --> 07:02:44,319
and commit to being back here in

12475
07:02:44,319 --> 07:02:45,687
ten minutes, we can be quick.

12476
07:02:45,687 --> 07:02:48,156
Av pokes can take a break and we

12477
07:02:48,156 --> 07:02:50,225
can have a decent level of

12478
07:02:50,225 --> 07:02:52,260
discussion to close out.

12479
07:02:52,260 --> 07:02:54,260
Good?

12480
07:02:54,662 --> 07:02:56,662
Okay.

12481
07:17:02,413 --> 07:17:04,413
[Recess] Sglauf

12482
07:18:27,699 --> 07:18:29,699
.

12483
07:18:34,673 --> 07:18:36,673
>> >>Bravo:.

12484
07:18:37,809 --> 07:18:39,809
>> >>Bravo: check.

12485
07:18:48,720 --> 07:18:50,720
>> >>Bravo:

12486
07:18:52,824 --> 07:18:53,910
Bravo:

12487
07:18:53,910 --> 07:18:55,910
>> Bravo:

12488
07:19:18,451 --> 07:19:22,510
>> as we get started let me

12489
07:19:22,654 --> 07:19:25,491
thank our convention center r

12490
07:19:25,491 --> 07:19:28,160
and contract staff and the av

12491
07:19:28,160 --> 07:19:30,596
folks back there making sure

12492
07:19:30,596 --> 07:19:31,931
we're transmitting and can hear

12493
07:19:31,931 --> 07:19:33,931
each other.

12494
07:19:35,735 --> 07:19:39,935
Thank you for bears with us all

12495
07:19:40,639 --> 07:19:42,639
day.

12496
07:19:44,143 --> 07:19:47,743
We've had a very robust session

12497
07:19:48,246 --> 07:19:51,846
already and I think what we

12498
07:19:53,820 --> 07:19:55,421
would discuss in an open session

12499
07:19:55,421 --> 07:19:56,422
has been drilled down

12500
07:19:56,422 --> 07:19:58,324
significantly.

12501
07:19:58,324 --> 07:20:01,426
Staff will go back and absorb

12502
07:20:01,426 --> 07:20:02,228
what they've heard and come up

12503
07:20:02,228 --> 07:20:04,628
with a new budget.

12504
07:20:05,397 --> 07:20:07,533
And we'll drill down on that

12505
07:20:07,533 --> 07:20:09,835
budget department by department

12506
07:20:09,835 --> 07:20:11,270
before we get to budget

12507
07:20:11,270 --> 07:20:12,938
ratification in SEPTEMBER.

12508
07:20:12,938 --> 07:20:15,707
So wrap up today, I think we

12509
07:20:15,707 --> 07:20:18,911
should take an hour or so --

12510
07:20:18,911 --> 07:20:21,614
maybe a little less -- to talk

12511
07:20:21,614 --> 07:20:23,816
about and go around the room

12512
07:20:23,816 --> 07:20:25,816
about key strategic

12513
07:20:26,853 --> 07:20:28,787
priorities -- two things most

12514
07:20:28,787 --> 07:20:31,787
important for the staff, eric

12515
07:20:32,457 --> 07:20:33,580
and his team, as they begin to

12516
07:20:33,580 --> 07:20:34,861
talk about the budget.

12517
07:20:34,861 --> 07:20:38,264
Of the things we have talked

12518
07:20:38,264 --> 07:20:38,664
about today, what is most

12519
07:20:38,664 --> 07:20:40,133
important to you.

12520
07:20:40,133 --> 07:20:41,867
That will give them consensus I

12521
07:20:41,867 --> 07:20:43,869
think they need to hear from us.

12522
07:20:43,869 --> 07:20:46,472
I'll go ahead and start.

12523
07:20:46,472 --> 07:20:48,206
We've heard a lot and this

12524
07:20:48,206 --> 07:20:51,144
budget will continue to be

12525
07:20:51,144 --> 07:20:53,780
informed by the equity framework

12526
07:20:53,780 --> 07:20:55,414
this council has adopted over

12527
07:20:55,414 --> 07:20:58,684
the past four or five years, but

12528
07:20:58,684 --> 07:21:00,285
of the specific items we

12529
07:21:00,285 --> 07:21:00,519
discussed, I'll let you know,

12530
07:21:00,519 --> 07:21:01,988
eric.

12531
07:21:01,988 --> 07:21:03,689
I think it's important,

12532
07:21:03,689 --> 07:21:06,125
especially coming out of the

12533
07:21:06,125 --> 07:21:07,960
pandemic, that we continue to

12534
07:21:07,960 --> 07:21:10,960
focus on health outcomes and

12535
07:21:10,996 --> 07:21:13,599
that our strategic plan is in

12536
07:21:13,599 --> 07:21:15,134
position to be successful.

12537
07:21:15,134 --> 07:21:17,804
And that to me requires a budget

12538
07:21:17,804 --> 07:21:19,705
as displayed here that's

12539
07:21:19,705 --> 07:21:20,439
sustainable and less vulnerable

12540
07:21:20,439 --> 07:21:22,439
to disruptions.

12541
07:21:22,841 --> 07:21:25,841
I'm very pleased with the

12542
07:21:25,845 --> 07:21:28,245
five-year outlook, now shifting

12543
07:21:31,316 --> 07:21:33,353
more to general fund funding.

12544
07:21:33,353 --> 07:21:35,722
Also appreciate my colleagues'

12545
07:21:35,722 --> 07:21:38,122
comments on vision zero,

12546
07:21:38,824 --> 07:21:40,824
including bicycle infrastructure

12547
07:21:42,262 --> 07:21:43,280
and pedestrian mobility.

12548
07:21:43,280 --> 07:21:44,964
We know the transportation

12549
07:21:44,964 --> 07:21:45,365
system will continue to be a top

12550
07:21:45,365 --> 07:21:47,365
priority.

12551
07:21:48,434 --> 07:21:51,236
Specific to that I think it's

12552
07:21:51,236 --> 07:21:54,836
high time we begin to adequately

12553
07:21:55,700 --> 07:21:59,120
fund at an adequate level -- I'm

12554
07:21:59,120 --> 07:22:02,120
proposing 20 million a year --

12555
07:22:03,716 --> 07:22:07,316
our vision zero -- the bicycle

12556
07:22:07,587 --> 07:22:09,880
master plan and sidewalk and

12557
07:22:09,880 --> 07:22:11,880
pedestrian infrastructure.

12558
07:22:13,492 --> 07:22:15,940
Coming out of the pandemic,

12559
07:22:15,940 --> 07:22:18,931
making sure we have a demand to

12560
07:22:18,931 --> 07:22:19,198
meet housing at every level is

12561
07:22:19,198 --> 07:22:21,198
critical.

12562
07:22:21,634 --> 07:22:23,169
I think it will largely

12563
07:22:23,169 --> 07:22:25,405
determine the trajectory of the

12564
07:22:25,405 --> 07:22:27,440
city over the next ten years,

12565
07:22:27,440 --> 07:22:29,800
whether or not we can keep up

12566
07:22:29,800 --> 07:22:31,344
with the supply because we know

12567
07:22:31,344 --> 07:22:33,780
we're doing well in identifying

12568
07:22:33,780 --> 07:22:36,180
and investing in other

12569
07:22:36,349 --> 07:22:38,551
fundamentals of the city as we

12570
07:22:38,551 --> 07:22:40,951
begin to implement workforce

12571
07:22:40,987 --> 07:22:42,722
plans which remain a priority as

12572
07:22:42,722 --> 07:22:43,489
well.

12573
07:22:43,489 --> 07:22:44,957
Affordable housing --

12574
07:22:44,957 --> 07:22:47,193
specifically making sure we get

12575
07:22:47,193 --> 07:22:49,529
on track and stay on track with

12576
07:22:49,529 --> 07:22:50,696
housing policy framework

12577
07:22:50,696 --> 07:22:52,665
implementation plan.

12578
07:22:52,665 --> 07:22:55,665
Unless there are volunteers to

12579
07:22:55,702 --> 07:22:55,902
go first, I can go around the

12580
07:22:55,902 --> 07:22:57,902
room.

12581
07:22:59,171 --> 07:23:03,371
But I see hands already, so I'll

12582
07:23:04,711 --> 07:23:04,877
go by the hounds.

12583
07:23:04,877 --> 07:23:06,846
We

12584
07:23:06,846 --> 07:23:09,846
>> in terms of priorities I

12585
07:23:11,717 --> 07:23:15,317
want us to definitely focus on

12586
07:23:15,721 --> 07:23:17,570
getting that 5 million or 3 per

12587
07:23:17,570 --> 07:23:18,570
cent to the city employ e yoo

12588
07:23:18,570 --> 07:23:19,259
ees

12589
07:23:19,259 --> 07:23:20,993
mployees.

12590
07:23:20,993 --> 07:23:23,697
We cannot do a bonus but we did

12591
07:23:23,697 --> 07:23:25,364
have essential employees and I

12592
07:23:25,364 --> 07:23:25,665
think their work needs to be

12593
07:23:25,665 --> 07:23:27,665
addressed.

12594
07:23:28,334 --> 07:23:30,203
I don't know how we can do that

12595
07:23:30,203 --> 07:23:32,272
in their pay performance review.

12596
07:23:32,272 --> 07:23:35,408
I think we need to do that

12597
07:23:35,408 --> 07:23:37,811
before we do any new hiring for

12598
07:23:37,811 --> 07:23:39,312
any chief officers of any of the

12599
07:23:39,312 --> 07:23:42,912
departments -- to make sure the

12600
07:23:45,985 --> 07:23:46,519
current city employees that are

12601
07:23:46,519 --> 07:23:47,219
there are taken care of.

12602
07:23:47,219 --> 07:23:48,788
I'd like to see that worked on.

12603
07:23:48,788 --> 07:23:50,857
The other thing I've noticed

12604
07:23:50,857 --> 07:23:52,425
from the budget is there's a lot

12605
07:23:52,425 --> 07:23:54,794
of technology moves with the

12606
07:23:54,794 --> 07:23:55,280
health and with the public

12607
07:23:55,280 --> 07:23:57,280
safety.

12608
07:23:57,196 --> 07:23:58,765
And I would like to see some

12609
07:23:58,765 --> 07:24:00,867
funds for my district and

12610
07:24:00,867 --> 07:24:03,203
possibly other districts that

12611
07:24:03,203 --> 07:24:04,504
have that tech gap for digital

12612
07:24:04,504 --> 07:24:07,707
inclusion, and I don't know if

12613
07:24:07,707 --> 07:24:10,107
that means extending check-outs

12614
07:24:12,178 --> 07:24:14,848
of tablets and laptops from the

12615
07:24:14,848 --> 07:24:16,849
library, but if we could work on

12616
07:24:16,849 --> 07:24:19,219
that and I sent over a specific

12617
07:24:19,219 --> 07:24:21,588
amount. And then I have

12618
07:24:21,588 --> 07:24:23,988
infrastructure issues that I

12619
07:24:26,426 --> 07:24:30,626
need to -- will need to be

12620
07:24:30,997 --> 07:24:33,132
addressed especially with the

12621
07:24:33,132 --> 07:24:35,132
park concerns.

12622
07:24:36,502 --> 07:24:38,304
I know just because we saw so

12623
07:24:38,304 --> 07:24:40,540
many people go outdoors as a

12624
07:24:40,540 --> 07:24:42,709
result of the pandemic, and we

12625
07:24:42,709 --> 07:24:43,710
want to continue to see them do

12626
07:24:43,710 --> 07:24:45,710
that.

12627
07:24:46,813 --> 07:24:51,613
One thing I think we did see is

12628
07:24:52,180 --> 07:24:53,453
for the inner city -- that would

12629
07:24:53,453 --> 07:24:54,854
be one threw

12630
07:24:54,854 --> 07:24:56,854
ough four.

12631
07:24:58,658 --> 07:25:00,727
We MAY need another acs officer.

12632
07:25:00,727 --> 07:25:01,528
And that's a priority that I see

12633
07:25:01,528 --> 07:25:03,528
for the budget.

12634
07:25:05,310 --> 07:25:07,600
And I think when we ask and

12635
07:25:07,600 --> 07:25:10,370
look, maybe we don't the 5

12636
07:25:10,370 --> 07:25:13,370
million for visit san antonio

12637
07:25:14,308 --> 07:25:16,176
and instead keep them at the 15

12638
07:25:16,176 --> 07:25:18,912
million and see how the hotels

12639
07:25:18,912 --> 07:25:21,114
and visit san antonio can work

12640
07:25:21,114 --> 07:25:22,480
together to fill the convention

12641
07:25:22,480 --> 07:25:24,448
center because I'm concerned

12642
07:25:25,520 --> 07:25:27,654
it's not filling fast enough.

12643
07:25:27,654 --> 07:25:28,755
So those are my priorities for

12644
07:25:28,755 --> 07:25:32,159
the budget, and I look forward

12645
07:25:32,159 --> 07:25:32,626
to hearing from my council

12646
07:25:32,626 --> 07:25:33,226
colleagues.

12647
07:25:33,226 --> 07:25:35,226
Thank you

12648
07:25:35,228 --> 07:25:36,163
>> mayor -- can I respond a

12649
07:25:36,163 --> 07:25:38,163
little bit?

12650
07:25:38,364 --> 07:25:40,767
i think this is an additional

12651
07:25:40,767 --> 07:25:42,503
framework that will be helpful

12652
07:25:42,503 --> 07:25:44,503
for me.

12653
07:25:45,272 --> 07:25:47,474
I MAY come back and ask as we go

12654
07:25:47,474 --> 07:25:49,743
around the room what areas would

12655
07:25:49,743 --> 07:25:51,144
you like to not see us restore

12656
07:25:51,144 --> 07:25:54,744
funding in order to offset some

12657
07:25:54,848 --> 07:25:57,150
of the changes that are made

12658
07:25:57,150 --> 07:25:58,218
here because -- and that's the

12659
07:25:58,218 --> 07:26:00,220
beauty of a trial budget,

12660
07:26:00,220 --> 07:26:02,121
because it's balanced.

12661
07:26:02,121 --> 07:26:04,858
And so keep that in mind.

12662
07:26:04,858 --> 07:26:06,393
The other thing I was just going

12663
07:26:06,393 --> 07:26:08,929
to mention is that via safe

12664
07:26:08,929 --> 07:26:11,265
funding that you're referring

12665
07:26:11,265 --> 07:26:14,265
to -- we're primarily funding

12666
07:26:16,870 --> 07:26:17,737
with the revenue loss autoof a

12667
07:26:17,737 --> 07:26:19,737
out of

12668
07:26:20,240 --> 07:26:21,909
arpa dollars.

12669
07:26:21,909 --> 07:26:23,710
It's not like we're allocating

12670
07:26:23,710 --> 07:26:26,710
city funds to do that.

12671
07:26:27,781 --> 07:26:30,781
We're utilizing arpa funds from

12672
07:26:33,530 --> 07:26:35,453
2020 lost revenue to restore

12673
07:26:37,524 --> 07:26:39,927
back to 2019 levels and our ore

12674
07:26:39,927 --> 07:26:42,663
operations for this building but

12675
07:26:42,663 --> 07:26:43,930
not taking to, say, 2019 levels

12676
07:26:43,930 --> 07:26:44,174
but getting them to capacity

12677
07:26:44,174 --> 07:26:46,174
level.

12678
07:26:50,604 --> 07:26:54,204
Just wanted to point that out

12679
07:26:54,742 --> 07:26:56,742
>> thank you, mayor.

12680
07:27:04,251 --> 07:27:04,418
My concern is sidewalk and pe

12681
07:27:04,418 --> 07:27:05,986
des

12682
07:27:05,986 --> 07:27:07,986
des

12683
07:27:10,324 --> 07:27:11,491
-- pedestrian, bike

12684
07:27:11,491 --> 07:27:13,491
infrastructure, transportation.

12685
07:27:15,295 --> 07:27:17,731
The safe officer unit, the pow

12686
07:27:17,731 --> 07:27:18,698
program -- continued diversity

12687
07:27:18,698 --> 07:27:20,698
training, sensitivity training

12688
07:27:22,802 --> 07:27:24,905
for our officers, eliminating

12689
07:27:24,905 --> 07:27:26,905
the $25 property fee.

12690
07:27:28,275 --> 07:27:28,609
I'd like to see funding for a

12691
07:27:28,609 --> 07:27:28,808
healthy conner

12692
07:27:28,808 --> 07:27:30,808
er

12693
07:27:31,912 --> 07:27:34,312
corner store in district

12694
07:27:35,715 --> 07:27:38,715
6 and a number of equipment

12695
07:27:42,723 --> 07:27:44,558
items for fire and -- that will

12696
07:27:44,558 --> 07:27:45,993
reduce call times.

12697
07:27:45,993 --> 07:27:49,330
The good sam app our fire

12698
07:27:49,330 --> 07:27:51,765
department is using, dispatch is

12699
07:27:51,765 --> 07:27:53,968
using to decrease dispatchers

12700
07:27:53,968 --> 07:27:54,902
and using the app to answer

12701
07:27:54,902 --> 07:27:56,902
mental calls.

12702
07:27:57,271 --> 07:27:58,739
I think that would be helpful to

12703
07:27:58,739 --> 07:28:00,841
hopefully decrease police calls

12704
07:28:00,841 --> 07:28:04,441
but mostly to help our citizens

12705
07:28:04,578 --> 07:28:07,578
with their mental health crises.

12706
07:28:07,581 --> 07:28:11,718
I would like to see funding for

12707
07:28:11,718 --> 07:28:14,718
the west side educational center

12708
07:28:16,891 --> 07:28:17,892
and the mexican-american civil

12709
07:28:17,892 --> 07:28:19,726
rights institute.

12710
07:28:19,726 --> 07:28:21,228
Maybe talk to my colleague in

12711
07:28:21,228 --> 07:28:22,629
district five about sharing

12712
07:28:22,629 --> 07:28:23,363
those, but those two

12713
07:28:23,363 --> 07:28:25,980
institutions I think are

12714
07:28:25,980 --> 07:28:26,534
important to show case the

12715
07:28:26,534 --> 07:28:27,100
history of our city and parts of

12716
07:28:27,100 --> 07:28:29,100
our culture.

12717
07:28:30,738 --> 07:28:32,873
And I want to support the

12718
07:28:32,873 --> 07:28:35,873
funding for the kennel facility,

12719
07:28:39,580 --> 07:28:42,580
to support our initiatives to

12720
07:29:01,903 --> 07:29:02,503
help the houseless here sglin

12721
07:29:02,503 --> 07:29:04,503
>> council perry

12722
07:29:06,583 --> 07:29:06,731
>> I think we need to respond

12723
07:29:06,731 --> 07:29:07,400
to the survey and get more

12724
07:29:07,400 --> 07:29:09,243
police out there, safe officers

12725
07:29:09,243 --> 07:29:10,210
or patrolman -- increase our

12726
07:29:10,210 --> 07:29:12,210
police force.

12727
07:29:12,479 --> 07:29:15,479
Property tax relief -- we've

12728
07:29:16,784 --> 07:29:17,418
talked about that.

12729
07:29:17,418 --> 07:29:19,420
You know, I'm disappointed that

12730
07:29:19,420 --> 07:29:23,524
we can't take a portion of the

12731
07:29:23,524 --> 07:29:25,459
carry-over and fund an increase

12732
07:29:25,459 --> 07:29:27,528
in our homestead exemption.

12733
07:29:27,528 --> 07:29:30,297
I'll keep pounding on that, and

12734
07:29:30,297 --> 07:29:32,330
I wish we could take another

12735
07:29:32,330 --> 07:29:35,633
look at that seriously before we

12736
07:29:36,203 --> 07:29:37,972
take this on to the next level.

12737
07:29:37,972 --> 07:29:40,972
And then infrastructure -- I

12738
07:29:43,911 --> 07:29:44,912
talked about increasing our our

12739
07:29:44,912 --> 07:29:46,912
nant budgets.

12740
07:29:47,140 --> 07:29:49,170
Each council district -- gives

12741
07:29:49,170 --> 07:29:51,118
us a little more flexibility.

12742
07:29:51,118 --> 07:29:52,987
Was it last year or year before

12743
07:29:52,987 --> 07:29:54,988
last we had two years ago that

12744
07:29:54,988 --> 07:29:55,756
we had an additional million

12745
07:29:55,756 --> 07:29:58,756
dollars per district that we

12746
07:29:58,993 --> 07:29:59,927
were able to use for different

12747
07:29:59,927 --> 07:30:01,927
projects, primarily

12748
07:30:02,497 --> 07:30:03,230
infrastructure projects within

12749
07:30:03,230 --> 07:30:05,230
each district.

12750
07:30:05,466 --> 07:30:07,568
don't know if we could afford

12751
07:30:07,568 --> 07:30:10,904
that but that was a big help for

12752
07:30:10,904 --> 07:30:12,807
individual projects within each

12753
07:30:12,807 --> 07:30:14,743
district as well.

12754
07:30:14,743 --> 07:30:18,343
Streets and side -- side streets

12755
07:30:19,380 --> 07:30:22,650
and sidewalks -- I think we --

12756
07:30:22,650 --> 07:30:25,650
again, that's the top priority

12757
07:30:26,787 --> 07:30:28,289
almost every year coming from

12758
07:30:28,289 --> 07:30:28,990
our citizens saying they want

12759
07:30:28,990 --> 07:30:30,990
better streets.

12760
07:30:31,158 --> 07:30:32,693
And I think we should take that

12761
07:30:32,693 --> 07:30:34,562
opportunity to put more into our

12762
07:30:34,562 --> 07:30:36,562
streets program.

12763
07:30:38,320 --> 07:30:41,536
On that slide -- I asked the

12764
07:30:41,536 --> 07:30:43,738
question, are we talking about

12765
07:30:43,738 --> 07:30:45,773
110 million up top and

12766
07:30:45,773 --> 07:30:48,173
additional 20 million for vision

12767
07:30:51,379 --> 07:30:52,814
zero for total of 30 million --

12768
07:30:52,814 --> 07:30:53,914
is that correct?

12769
07:30:53,914 --> 07:30:55,516
-- 130 million

12770
07:30:55,516 --> 07:30:57,516
>> that's correct.

12771
07:30:57,685 --> 07:30:59,487
If council includes that -- if

12772
07:30:59,487 --> 07:30:59,754
you don't do that, that's not

12773
07:30:59,754 --> 07:31:01,556
correct

12774
07:31:01,556 --> 07:31:03,556
>> okay.

12775
07:31:06,161 --> 07:31:07,728
But -- I'm -- it's 110 ml

12776
07:31:07,728 --> 07:31:08,796
illion

12777
07:31:08,796 --> 07:31:10,796
dollars still.

12778
07:31:11,650 --> 07:31:13,367
>> it would be -- we would -- I

12779
07:31:13,367 --> 07:31:16,367
think what the mayor proposed

12780
07:31:16,738 --> 07:31:20,338
was that would be dedicated to

12781
07:31:22,744 --> 07:31:23,378
vision zero type projects, yes

12782
07:31:23,378 --> 07:31:24,112
>> as long as we stay at the

12783
07:31:24,112 --> 07:31:26,112
110 million.

12784
07:31:26,147 --> 07:31:27,715
I think we should add additional

12785
07:31:27,715 --> 07:31:30,715
to that -- whatever the

12786
07:31:30,885 --> 07:31:32,860
additional is to show we are

12787
07:31:32,860 --> 07:31:34,890
responding to folks that are

12788
07:31:34,890 --> 07:31:37,159
asking for additional street

12789
07:31:37,159 --> 07:31:39,270
maintenance throughout the city.

12790
07:31:39,270 --> 07:31:41,562
That's not just in district 10.

12791
07:31:41,562 --> 07:31:44,320
That's across the entire city.

12792
07:31:44,320 --> 07:31:44,332
Those are my top three

12793
07:31:44,332 --> 07:31:46,332
priorities.

12794
07:31:47,340 --> 07:31:49,700
Like I said, they haven't

12795
07:31:49,700 --> 07:31:52,670
changed since 2017, but I have a

12796
07:31:52,840 --> 07:31:54,308
list of other projects within

12797
07:31:54,308 --> 07:31:56,211
district 10 that are needed --

12798
07:31:56,211 --> 07:31:58,211
mixture of infrastructure

12799
07:31:59,714 --> 07:32:00,915
projects.

12800
07:32:00,915 --> 07:32:02,915
primarily drainage.

12801
07:32:04,953 --> 07:32:05,219
Everybody have drainage issue

12802
07:32:05,219 --> 07:32:05,887
projects.

12803
07:32:05,887 --> 07:32:07,189
That wasn't called out

12804
07:32:07,189 --> 07:32:08,924
separately in today's briefings

12805
07:32:08,924 --> 07:32:13,562
but I think we need to take a

12806
07:32:13,562 --> 07:32:16,330
closer look at that in the next

12807
07:32:16,330 --> 07:32:17,798
iteration -- what are we putting

12808
07:32:17,798 --> 07:32:20,198
towards drainage in our

12809
07:32:20,235 --> 07:32:22,235
districts also?

12810
07:32:32,948 --> 07:32:33,681
Did I say the namp?

12811
07:32:33,681 --> 07:32:35,681
>> Mayor Nirenberg: yes

12812
07:32:37,119 --> 07:32:39,320
>> I have to start out --

12813
07:32:39,320 --> 07:32:41,422
streets and sidewalks is a huge

12814
07:32:41,422 --> 07:32:43,822
priority, infrastructure is, as

12815
07:32:44,559 --> 07:32:45,930
well as public health and

12816
07:32:45,930 --> 07:32:47,620
affordable housing.

12817
07:32:47,620 --> 07:32:49,530
Those have to be the areas in

12818
07:32:49,530 --> 07:32:51,933
which I would like to see

12819
07:32:51,933 --> 07:32:54,333
increased funding and programs.

12820
07:32:55,303 --> 07:32:56,371
I also want to reiterate the

12821
07:32:56,371 --> 07:32:58,574
street lighting index and I

12822
07:32:58,574 --> 07:33:00,800
would like to have a further

12823
07:33:00,800 --> 07:33:00,909
conversation about what that

12824
07:33:00,909 --> 07:33:02,909
looks like.

12825
07:33:02,945 --> 07:33:04,713
Seems like we got a pretty good

12826
07:33:04,713 --> 07:33:07,713
general consensus on that as

12827
07:33:08,950 --> 07:33:12,550
well as the office of crime

12828
07:33:14,556 --> 07:33:16,556
prevention and recidivism.

12829
07:33:19,961 --> 07:33:21,830
The austin community center is

12830
07:33:21,830 --> 07:33:23,731
without ac now.

12831
07:33:23,731 --> 07:33:27,735
I would like to see funding for

12832
07:33:27,735 --> 07:33:30,572
ac units and I know we've had a

12833
07:33:30,572 --> 07:33:31,740
conversation about as a future

12834
07:33:31,740 --> 07:33:33,609
bond project -- I would like to

12835
07:33:33,609 --> 07:33:33,842
continue that a discussion as

12836
07:33:33,842 --> 07:33:35,643
well.

12837
07:33:35,643 --> 07:33:37,913
I believe we can do both.

12838
07:33:37,913 --> 07:33:39,848
Also, I think a huge

12839
07:33:39,848 --> 07:33:42,500
responsibility at our council

12840
07:33:42,500 --> 07:33:44,450
office is maintaining strong

12841
07:33:46,788 --> 07:33:49,224
field offices and we have two in

12842
07:33:49,224 --> 07:33:51,224
district two.

12843
07:33:52,193 --> 07:33:53,495
It is -- to have the number of

12844
07:33:53,495 --> 07:33:55,263
briefings, all that -- wanting

12845
07:33:55,263 --> 07:33:57,232
to make sure the case load that

12846
07:33:57,232 --> 07:33:58,700
we have is being handled

12847
07:33:58,700 --> 07:34:00,536
effectively and quickly.

12848
07:34:00,536 --> 07:34:01,904
So at some point I would like to

12849
07:34:01,904 --> 07:34:04,304
entertain a conversation about

12850
07:34:07,742 --> 07:34:10,742
moving up from 7-1/2 full-time

12851
07:34:12,881 --> 07:34:13,215
equivalents to 8 if that's a

12852
07:34:13,215 --> 07:34:15,215
possibility.

12853
07:34:16,718 --> 07:34:19,718
I had this conversation with

12854
07:34:19,989 --> 07:34:21,690
council member sandoval, 3-1-1

12855
07:34:21,690 --> 07:34:24,660
is looking to add more members.

12856
07:34:24,660 --> 07:34:27,729
I think it would be a good idea

12857
07:34:27,729 --> 07:34:29,765
to think of housing some of

12858
07:34:29,765 --> 07:34:30,310
those operators at field

12859
07:34:30,310 --> 07:34:32,310
offices.

12860
07:34:32,534 --> 07:34:32,734
I would like to, you know, state

12861
07:34:32,734 --> 07:34:34,703
that.

12862
07:34:34,703 --> 07:34:37,703
Thank you guys so much.

12863
07:34:38,273 --> 07:34:41,873
Also, I'm support of perry and

12864
07:34:47,716 --> 07:34:49,716
the

12865
07:34:53,288 --> 07:34:55,257
the namp.

12866
07:34:55,257 --> 07:34:56,580
>> Mayor Nirenberg: council

12867
07:34:56,580 --> 07:34:58,580
member garcia

12868
07:35:01,664 --> 07:35:03,640
>> sidewalks, streets, public

12869
07:35:03,640 --> 07:35:05,300
health and senior services.

12870
07:35:05,300 --> 07:35:07,736
We did not spend any time --

12871
07:35:07,736 --> 07:35:08,470
this is a problem of mine --

12872
07:35:08,470 --> 07:35:10,439
with resiliency.

12873
07:35:10,439 --> 07:35:12,839
Where does that go?

12874
07:35:12,941 --> 07:35:13,676
We talked about a chief

12875
07:35:13,676 --> 07:35:15,777
resiliency officer and different

12876
07:35:15,777 --> 07:35:17,313
things to make sure our city is

12877
07:35:17,313 --> 07:35:19,815
resilient but we didn't talk

12878
07:35:19,815 --> 07:35:21,483
about it at all today, so I was

12879
07:35:21,483 --> 07:35:23,184
wondering where that goes or

12880
07:35:23,184 --> 07:35:26,184
where we have that discussion

12881
07:35:26,621 --> 07:35:26,922
because that would be one of my

12882
07:35:26,922 --> 07:35:28,490
priorities.

12883
07:35:28,490 --> 07:35:29,958
>> well, I think that's --

12884
07:35:29,958 --> 07:35:31,727
thank you for bringing that up.

12885
07:35:31,727 --> 07:35:33,162
I thought that would come up

12886
07:35:33,162 --> 07:35:34,763
earlier in the day.

12887
07:35:34,763 --> 07:35:35,640
We set aside money in the trial

12888
07:35:35,640 --> 07:35:37,640
budget.

12889
07:35:38,100 --> 07:35:39,301
We're going to review the report

12890
07:35:39,301 --> 07:35:41,701
that was released yesterday.

12891
07:35:43,706 --> 07:35:47,760
And I think I've shared with you

12892
07:35:47,760 --> 07:35:49,912
at last wednesday's session or

12893
07:35:49,912 --> 07:35:50,946
yesterday's session that we'll

12894
07:35:50,946 --> 07:35:53,182
come back in the proposed budget

12895
07:35:53,182 --> 07:35:53,415
with a plan and the use of those

12896
07:35:53,415 --> 07:35:55,415
funds.

12897
07:35:56,385 --> 07:35:57,786
You MAY also see -- we've talked

12898
07:35:57,786 --> 07:35:59,786
internally about potentially

12899
07:36:00,389 --> 07:36:03,989
sharing with council when we get

12900
07:36:04,159 --> 07:36:04,827
to the bond program --

12901
07:36:04,827 --> 07:36:07,730
bond-funded options to deal with

12902
07:36:07,730 --> 07:36:09,865
some of the hazard mitigation

12903
07:36:09,865 --> 07:36:11,865
projects, primarily drainage.

12904
07:36:12,501 --> 07:36:14,569
Could be some facility issues.

12905
07:36:14,569 --> 07:36:15,738
We're going to get that worked

12906
07:36:15,738 --> 07:36:17,373
up this summer

12907
07:36:17,373 --> 07:36:19,241
>> I would like to advocate

12908
07:36:19,241 --> 07:36:19,675
for -- let's not wait for the

12909
07:36:19,675 --> 07:36:21,577
bond.

12910
07:36:21,577 --> 07:36:24,120
Let's try to repurpose --

12911
07:36:24,120 --> 07:36:25,881
anything we can do, if it has to

12912
07:36:25,881 --> 07:36:28,281
be a resiliency plan.

12913
07:36:29,318 --> 07:36:32,855
I don't know what it is but --

12914
07:36:32,855 --> 07:36:34,590
>> we're not going to wait.

12915
07:36:34,590 --> 07:36:36,959
Several council members have

12916
07:36:36,959 --> 07:36:38,959
talked about infrastructure

12917
07:36:42,398 --> 07:36:42,832
changes or improvement,

12918
07:36:42,832 --> 07:36:43,966
port-a-potties.

12919
07:36:43,966 --> 07:36:46,335
Part of what we're going to do

12920
07:36:46,335 --> 07:36:48,137
in the summer is try to

12921
07:36:48,137 --> 07:36:50,306
prioritize based on what we're

12922
07:36:50,306 --> 07:36:51,390
hearing and on our

12923
07:36:51,390 --> 07:36:52,741
recommendation things that need

12924
07:36:52,741 --> 07:36:54,741
to be addressed.

12925
07:36:55,100 --> 07:36:56,379
And I frankly can't think of

12926
07:36:56,379 --> 07:36:57,579
anything more important than

12927
07:36:57,579 --> 07:36:59,816
following through with some of

12928
07:36:59,816 --> 07:37:00,983
the things that general rice

12929
07:37:00,983 --> 07:37:02,851
talked about yesterday.

12930
07:37:02,851 --> 07:37:05,851
There's an analysis that needs

12931
07:37:05,888 --> 07:37:07,723
to go in, but to me, as city

12932
07:37:07,723 --> 07:37:10,723
manager, those are the top

12933
07:37:14,197 --> 07:37:14,496
priorities from a capital

12934
07:37:14,496 --> 07:37:16,496
standpoint.

12935
07:37:18,330 --> 07:37:20,433
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

12936
07:37:24,390 --> 07:37:24,307
Council member c

12937
07:37:24,307 --> 07:37:26,307
ostello

12938
07:37:27,743 --> 07:37:29,178
>> we need to make sure we're

12939
07:37:29,178 --> 07:37:29,478
prioritizing our streets and

12940
07:37:29,478 --> 07:37:31,478
sidewalks.

12941
07:37:32,848 --> 07:37:35,284
In addition to that, restoring

12942
07:37:35,284 --> 07:37:38,284
the pre-covid funding for under

12943
07:37:39,755 --> 07:37:41,824
one roof and continuing to fund

12944
07:37:41,824 --> 07:37:43,493
owner-occupied rehab program and

12945
07:37:43,493 --> 07:37:43,860
funding the right to counsel

12946
07:37:43,860 --> 07:37:45,860
program.

12947
07:37:46,361 --> 07:37:47,963
Park improvements -- we talked

12948
07:37:47,963 --> 07:37:49,963
about it.

12949
07:37:51,234 --> 07:37:53,802
In district five many parks have

12950
07:37:53,802 --> 07:37:55,405
port-a-potties instead of

12951
07:37:55,405 --> 07:37:57,507
permanent restrooms and the

12952
07:37:57,507 --> 07:37:57,940
restrooms we do have need to be

12953
07:37:57,940 --> 07:37:59,940
invested in.

12954
07:38:00,760 --> 07:38:01,710
We need to focus on the lighting

12955
07:38:01,710 --> 07:38:03,646
component and work on that study

12956
07:38:03,646 --> 07:38:06,646
to ensure we're meeting the

12957
07:38:09,118 --> 07:38:12,118
lighting needs of our residents.

12958
07:38:12,288 --> 07:38:14,190
We didn't get to talk about it

12959
07:38:14,190 --> 07:38:17,190
during discussion but I think

12960
07:38:17,426 --> 07:38:18,294
it's important to invest in

12961
07:38:18,294 --> 07:38:21,294
education for community -- many

12962
07:38:22,198 --> 07:38:23,132
of the code violation community

12963
07:38:23,132 --> 07:38:26,132
doesn't know it's a code

12964
07:38:26,436 --> 07:38:30,360
violation so maybe we can invest

12965
07:38:32,976 --> 07:38:35,976
to let folks know what's

12966
07:38:36,646 --> 07:38:38,646
acceptable.

12967
07:38:38,815 --> 07:38:41,815
I echo investing in the

12968
07:38:43,286 --> 07:38:43,853
mexican-american civil rights

12969
07:38:43,853 --> 07:38:46,253
institution and, you know,

12970
07:38:51,428 --> 07:38:53,828
working towards supporting the

12971
07:38:54,664 --> 07:38:56,799
the -- most important we need to

12972
07:38:56,799 --> 07:38:59,169
restore the three per cent for

12973
07:38:59,169 --> 07:39:01,169
city civilian employees.

12974
07:39:02,772 --> 07:39:03,339
Many of these folks are shifted

12975
07:39:03,339 --> 07:39:05,575
to the food bank.

12976
07:39:05,575 --> 07:39:07,343
We need to make sure we get

12977
07:39:07,343 --> 07:39:09,312
their compensation.

12978
07:39:09,312 --> 07:39:09,613
Supporting the kennel

12979
07:39:09,613 --> 07:39:11,613
facilities.

12980
07:39:13,516 --> 07:39:15,510
We need to make sure unhoused

12981
07:39:15,510 --> 07:39:17,387
folks have a kennel for their

12982
07:39:17,387 --> 07:39:19,156
pets and support animal care

12983
07:39:19,156 --> 07:39:23,590
service to meet the need of the

12984
07:39:23,590 --> 07:39:23,726
folks throughout the city.

12985
07:39:23,726 --> 07:39:25,726
Thank you.

12986
07:39:26,463 --> 07:39:27,530
>> Mayor Nirenberg: council

12987
07:39:27,530 --> 07:39:28,464
sandoval

12988
07:39:28,464 --> 07:39:30,464
>> thank you.

12989
07:39:30,766 --> 07:39:32,135
This the lightening round of

12990
07:39:32,135 --> 07:39:34,535
what you want, right?

12991
07:39:34,670 --> 07:39:35,739
Take note.

12992
07:39:35,739 --> 07:39:37,507
I will begin with the request

12993
07:39:37,507 --> 07:39:39,276
from the people who put me in

12994
07:39:39,276 --> 07:39:39,842
office and whom I serve

12995
07:39:39,842 --> 07:39:41,842
directly.

12996
07:39:48,118 --> 07:39:48,551
In terms of district 7 instra

12997
07:39:48,551 --> 07:39:49,685
structure, the numb

12998
07:39:49,685 --> 07:39:51,685
k

12999
07:39:53,824 --> 07:39:54,491
-- infrastructure is the

13000
07:39:54,491 --> 07:39:56,226
biggest concern.

13001
07:39:56,226 --> 07:39:58,940
Also streets and sidewalks -- we

13002
07:39:58,940 --> 07:40:01,297
have one of the largest sidewalk

13003
07:40:01,297 --> 07:40:03,767
gaps in the city after district

13004
07:40:03,767 --> 07:40:04,233
three and street repair and

13005
07:40:04,233 --> 07:40:06,233
rehabilitation.

13006
07:40:06,802 --> 07:40:09,673
We have a number of f streets

13007
07:40:09,673 --> 07:40:13,810
and I will continue to say we

13008
07:40:13,810 --> 07:40:16,210
received $11 million in the $444

13009
07:40:16,546 --> 07:40:19,546
million bond in 2017 and would

13010
07:40:19,716 --> 07:40:20,717
appreciate the support from my

13011
07:40:20,717 --> 07:40:22,717
council members.

13012
07:40:23,954 --> 07:40:27,554
We also do need an improvement

13013
07:40:27,825 --> 07:40:30,825
in animal care services in

13014
07:40:32,620 --> 07:40:32,395
district seven -- not an

13015
07:40:32,395 --> 07:40:33,597
improvement.

13016
07:40:33,597 --> 07:40:35,597
You do great.

13017
07:40:36,966 --> 07:40:39,366
But more of you.

13018
07:40:40,603 --> 07:40:41,604
We have the highest number of

13019
07:40:41,604 --> 07:40:44,207
impounds and highest number of

13020
07:40:44,207 --> 07:40:48,407
dog bites in the past two years.

13021
07:40:48,412 --> 07:40:48,679
Continuing on my district seven

13022
07:40:48,679 --> 07:40:50,280
priority.

13023
07:40:50,280 --> 07:40:53,416
I have some park requests, but

13024
07:40:53,416 --> 07:40:53,684
also an investment in the deco

13025
07:40:53,684 --> 07:40:55,452
district.

13026
07:40:55,452 --> 07:40:56,819
This is a request the

13027
07:40:56,819 --> 07:40:59,289
constituents made to me when I

13028
07:40:59,289 --> 07:41:00,857
first got into office.

13029
07:41:00,857 --> 07:41:02,325
And we haven't made much

13030
07:41:02,325 --> 07:41:06,525
movement on it but as you know

13031
07:41:09,980 --> 07:41:12,502
many years ago there was an

13032
07:41:12,502 --> 07:41:13,670
investment to reviet

13033
07:41:13,670 --> 07:41:13,870
talize the

13034
07:41:13,870 --> 07:41:15,870
area.

13035
07:41:17,941 --> 07:41:19,743
What I'm asking for is some

13036
07:41:19,743 --> 07:41:21,545
money similar to the northeast

13037
07:41:21,545 --> 07:41:23,713
corridor where there is

13038
07:41:23,713 --> 07:41:25,548
incentives for local businesses

13039
07:41:25,548 --> 07:41:27,548
in the area.

13040
07:41:28,251 --> 07:41:30,988
Overall, I would say my second

13041
07:41:30,988 --> 07:41:33,988
priority has to do with

13042
07:41:34,124 --> 07:41:36,524
diversity, equity, and inclusion

13043
07:41:36,726 --> 07:41:39,726
and this means funding the

13044
07:41:41,865 --> 07:41:43,865
mexican-american civil rights

13045
07:41:51,740 --> 07:41:53,900
institute, invest to serve the speaking community,

13046
07:41:53,900 --> 07:41:54,912
and that we provide for child

13047
07:41:54,912 --> 07:41:57,912
care at board and commission

13048
07:42:01,818 --> 07:42:04,218
meetings in accordance with

13049
07:42:07,491 --> 07:42:09,491
COUNCILMAN Gonzales' ccr.

13050
07:42:14,131 --> 07:42:15,132
next priority -- housing

13051
07:42:15,132 --> 07:42:17,532
preservation and investing in

13052
07:42:17,967 --> 07:42:20,967
community safety -- in further

13053
07:42:21,138 --> 07:42:22,673
violence prevention and gun

13054
07:42:22,673 --> 07:42:23,540
safety.

13055
07:42:23,540 --> 07:42:25,540
Thank you.

13056
07:42:25,575 --> 07:42:27,975
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

13057
07:42:28,712 --> 07:42:29,113
Council member courage.

13058
07:42:29,113 --> 07:42:31,113
>> thank you.

13059
07:42:31,415 --> 07:42:31,648
I know we're focusing on the

13060
07:42:31,648 --> 07:42:33,648
budget.

13061
07:42:36,286 --> 07:42:37,287
The priorities in my brikt

13062
07:42:37,287 --> 07:42:39,287
district

13063
07:42:39,756 --> 07:42:40,791
are close to what everybody's

13064
07:42:40,791 --> 07:42:42,791
are.

13065
07:42:43,494 --> 07:42:46,494
Number one is public safety.

13066
07:42:46,830 --> 07:42:50,340
It will be always be a priority

13067
07:42:50,340 --> 07:42:51,435
in every district.

13068
07:42:51,435 --> 07:42:53,637
Council member perry, I second

13069
07:42:53,637 --> 07:42:56,637
your priority in tax relief.

13070
07:42:56,973 --> 07:42:57,641
I think we understand the

13071
07:42:57,641 --> 07:42:59,641
significance in that.

13072
07:42:59,810 --> 07:43:03,460
I don't think we'll get very far

13073
07:43:03,460 --> 07:43:05,148
this time around, but I'll with

13074
07:43:05,148 --> 07:43:07,250
you on the fight.

13075
07:43:07,250 --> 07:43:09,650
Other than that instra

13076
07:43:10,200 --> 07:43:11,822
structure -- streets --

13077
07:43:11,822 --> 07:43:12,490
infrastructure -- streets,

13078
07:43:12,490 --> 07:43:14,580
sidewalks, drainage.

13079
07:43:14,580 --> 07:43:14,625
Those are interests shared in

13080
07:43:14,625 --> 07:43:16,625
every community.

13081
07:43:17,940 --> 07:43:19,129
Some communities need more

13082
07:43:19,129 --> 07:43:21,866
addressed in those areas, but it

13083
07:43:21,866 --> 07:43:23,267
doesn't mean that my community

13084
07:43:23,267 --> 07:43:25,469
doesn't have its needs and wants

13085
07:43:25,469 --> 07:43:28,939
that we need to address as well.

13086
07:43:28,939 --> 07:43:32,343
I want to go ahead and also, you

13087
07:43:32,343 --> 07:43:35,379
know, speak up for the 2022 bond

13088
07:43:35,379 --> 07:43:37,414
project coming up and I'm having

13089
07:43:37,414 --> 07:43:39,883
people in my district identify

13090
07:43:39,883 --> 07:43:42,520
what those needs are right now

13091
07:43:42,520 --> 07:43:45,489
so that we can start building

13092
07:43:45,489 --> 07:43:46,223
those into the next bond

13093
07:43:46,223 --> 07:43:47,358
project.

13094
07:43:47,358 --> 07:43:48,826
Those are district nine, but

13095
07:43:48,826 --> 07:43:51,128
also I look at the city as a

13096
07:43:51,128 --> 07:43:52,863
whole, and I think a couple of

13097
07:43:52,863 --> 07:43:55,366
other very important issues are

13098
07:43:55,366 --> 07:43:55,633
housing and the affordability of

13099
07:43:55,633 --> 07:43:56,968
housing.

13100
07:43:56,968 --> 07:43:58,469
and that's something that I

13101
07:43:58,469 --> 07:44:01,305
think even people in every

13102
07:44:01,305 --> 07:44:03,207
district are concerned about.

13103
07:44:03,207 --> 07:44:05,543
I'm also concerned -- priority

13104
07:44:05,543 --> 07:44:06,644
for me is paying city employees

13105
07:44:06,644 --> 07:44:08,479
better than the three per cent

13106
07:44:08,479 --> 07:44:10,479
we've talked about.

13107
07:44:10,681 --> 07:44:13,117
How many ways that's going to

13108
07:44:13,117 --> 07:44:14,953
get split up and what that means

13109
07:44:14,953 --> 07:44:16,387
over last year and this year --

13110
07:44:16,387 --> 07:44:18,956
I think it's something we need

13111
07:44:18,956 --> 07:44:20,258
to give more consideration to.

13112
07:44:20,258 --> 07:44:21,759
Finally, I'm going to endorse

13113
07:44:21,759 --> 07:44:23,995
increasing the funding that I've

13114
07:44:23,995 --> 07:44:26,264
heard from a couple of council

13115
07:44:26,264 --> 07:44:28,232
members for things that don't

13116
07:44:28,232 --> 07:44:29,867
get put in the budget that we

13117
07:44:29,867 --> 07:44:31,736
know people in our community

13118
07:44:31,736 --> 07:44:34,505
still want and need it goes a

13119
07:44:34,505 --> 07:44:37,908
long way to help us meet those.

13120
07:44:37,908 --> 07:44:40,378
That's it for me, mayor.

13121
07:44:40,378 --> 07:44:42,778
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

13122
07:44:43,581 --> 07:44:45,581
council member courage.

13123
07:44:47,852 --> 07:44:48,986
Council member pelaez

13124
07:44:48,986 --> 07:44:50,986
>> thank you.

13125
07:44:55,260 --> 07:44:56,694
I think every one of these have

13126
07:44:56,694 --> 07:44:59,940
resilience baked into them.

13127
07:44:59,630 --> 07:45:01,932
Resilience needs to be front and

13128
07:45:01,932 --> 07:45:02,734
center in almost every meeting

13129
07:45:02,734 --> 07:45:04,734
going forward.

13130
07:45:05,403 --> 07:45:06,170
It is workforce training and

13131
07:45:06,170 --> 07:45:07,872
economic development.

13132
07:45:07,872 --> 07:45:11,472
And we're more resilient when we

13133
07:45:11,809 --> 07:45:12,677
have safer streets and we've got

13134
07:45:12,677 --> 07:45:14,677
more drainage.

13135
07:45:16,130 --> 07:45:19,130
We're more resilient with more

13136
07:45:19,717 --> 07:45:20,510
well trained police officers and

13137
07:45:20,510 --> 07:45:22,510
firefighters.

13138
07:45:22,620 --> 07:45:22,854
My community is asking for all

13139
07:45:22,854 --> 07:45:24,723
those.

13140
07:45:24,723 --> 07:45:27,123
Adding to that, another

13141
07:45:27,725 --> 07:45:28,392
nuance -- I know you want three.

13142
07:45:28,392 --> 07:45:30,261
Domestic violence is still one

13143
07:45:30,261 --> 07:45:30,594
of the things that haunts the

13144
07:45:30,594 --> 07:45:32,130
city.

13145
07:45:32,130 --> 07:45:34,265
Everybody thinks they have a

13146
07:45:34,265 --> 07:45:36,467
real hard job, but in san

13147
07:45:36,467 --> 07:45:36,801
antonio I don't think it's more

13148
07:45:36,801 --> 07:45:38,801
difficult.

13149
07:45:40,400 --> 07:45:43,241
I can't think of anything more

13150
07:45:43,241 --> 07:45:44,742
difficult than being a female in

13151
07:45:44,742 --> 07:45:47,142
san antonio right now.

13152
07:45:49,800 --> 07:45:50,548
One in three women will have a

13153
07:45:50,548 --> 07:45:53,548
domestic violence story to tell,

13154
07:45:53,985 --> 07:45:56,621
and I think that's unacceptable.

13155
07:45:56,621 --> 07:46:00,458
Also, we -- our dogs out of

13156
07:46:00,458 --> 07:46:02,793
acs -- we're having tremendous

13157
07:46:02,793 --> 07:46:04,362
success with the canines for

13158
07:46:04,362 --> 07:46:06,362
warriors program.

13159
07:46:07,933 --> 07:46:11,736
We're going to come up at you,

13160
07:46:11,736 --> 07:46:12,360
mayor and eric, with request for

13161
07:46:12,360 --> 07:46:13,137
expansion.

13162
07:46:13,137 --> 07:46:15,539
They've got the demand and we

13163
07:46:15,539 --> 07:46:16,674
have the dogs to help out the

13164
07:46:16,674 --> 07:46:18,510
veterans.

13165
07:46:18,510 --> 07:46:20,510
Anyway, thanks.

13166
07:46:20,946 --> 07:46:23,346
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

13167
07:46:27,719 --> 07:46:29,719
Council member?

13168
07:46:30,455 --> 07:46:33,455
>> number one I saw public

13169
07:46:34,392 --> 07:46:35,694
health in there, and for me that

13170
07:46:35,694 --> 07:46:37,328
includes but isn't limited to

13171
07:46:37,328 --> 07:46:40,328
major support for the work

13172
07:46:43,301 --> 07:46:43,602
around adverse childhood

13173
07:46:43,602 --> 07:46:45,270
experiences

13174
07:46:45,270 --> 07:46:47,270
experiences, restorative

13175
07:46:48,140 --> 07:46:49,641
justice -- restorative justice

13176
07:46:49,641 --> 07:46:50,475
and mental health bleed into

13177
07:46:50,475 --> 07:46:52,475
other topics.

13178
07:46:53,412 --> 07:46:54,179
I see them there and domestic

13179
07:46:54,179 --> 07:46:56,179
violence as well.

13180
07:46:57,816 --> 07:46:59,651
Basic infrastructure and also to

13181
07:46:59,651 --> 07:47:00,552
include downtown and making

13182
07:47:00,552 --> 07:47:02,952
downtown a more walkable

13183
07:47:04,623 --> 07:47:05,457
downtown, which makes it a more

13184
07:47:05,457 --> 07:47:08,457
livable downtown and a downtown

13185
07:47:15,133 --> 07:47:17,502
that can attract more high hf

13186
07:47:17,502 --> 07:47:19,902
high-end -- and affordable

13187
07:47:20,371 --> 07:47:22,730
housing, which includes making

13188
07:47:22,730 --> 07:47:23,808
sure people aren't taxed out of

13189
07:47:23,808 --> 07:47:25,808
their homes.

13190
07:47:25,811 --> 07:47:28,211
Making sure they're proactive

13191
07:47:28,880 --> 07:47:32,217
about -- making sure people in

13192
07:47:32,217 --> 07:47:33,485
low-income zip codes are not

13193
07:47:33,485 --> 07:47:35,920
paying more than their fair

13194
07:47:35,920 --> 07:47:38,230
share of property taxes.

13195
07:47:38,230 --> 07:47:41,230
Making sure everybody has a

13196
07:47:41,326 --> 07:47:43,726
homestead exemption, making sure

13197
07:47:44,329 --> 07:47:45,797
people who are -- to help them

13198
07:47:45,797 --> 07:47:47,332
protest their appraisals.

13199
07:47:47,332 --> 07:47:48,766
That's tax relief I'm putting on

13200
07:47:48,766 --> 07:47:50,766
the table.

13201
07:47:51,402 --> 07:47:53,402
And then sustainability.

13202
07:47:53,839 --> 07:47:54,906
Long-term sustainability and

13203
07:47:54,906 --> 07:47:56,575
resiliency for our community.

13204
07:47:56,575 --> 07:48:00,112
And then I also want to throw

13205
07:48:00,112 --> 07:48:03,181
out that I'm glad haven for hope

13206
07:48:03,181 --> 07:48:06,317
made a visit out to the district

13207
07:48:06,317 --> 07:48:09,317
one field office yesterday and

13208
07:48:09,821 --> 07:48:11,723
was -- with an outreach worker

13209
07:48:11,723 --> 07:48:15,660
and they were able to help one

13210
07:48:15,660 --> 07:48:17,829
of the people experiencing

13211
07:48:17,829 --> 07:48:20,566
homelessness get in a home and

13212
07:48:20,566 --> 07:48:22,267
take their dog with that.

13213
07:48:22,267 --> 07:48:25,267
I'm really glad about that.

13214
07:48:26,237 --> 07:48:26,538
I know that's important in being

13215
07:48:26,538 --> 07:48:27,739
effective.

13216
07:48:27,739 --> 07:48:30,139
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

13217
07:48:30,575 --> 07:48:31,420
council member.

13218
07:48:31,420 --> 07:48:33,420
Anyone else?

13219
07:48:33,645 --> 07:48:34,346
>> I was remiss in not

13220
07:48:34,346 --> 07:48:35,447
mentioning health.

13221
07:48:35,447 --> 07:48:37,447
You know me.

13222
07:48:38,149 --> 07:48:40,986
I chair that committee and

13223
07:48:40,986 --> 07:48:41,553
that's what one of my degrees is

13224
07:48:41,553 --> 07:48:42,921
in.

13225
07:48:42,921 --> 07:48:45,124
You asked a question about what

13226
07:48:45,124 --> 07:48:46,291
funding we do not want to see

13227
07:48:46,291 --> 07:48:47,725
restored

13228
07:48:47,725 --> 07:48:49,661
>> potential option, yeah

13229
07:48:49,661 --> 07:48:51,863
>> this makes us all the bad

13230
07:48:51,863 --> 07:48:53,965
guy right now, but I'll go ahead

13231
07:48:53,965 --> 07:48:55,965
and pose something.

13232
07:48:57,202 --> 07:48:59,605
We asked the voters in NOVEMBER

13233
07:48:59,605 --> 07:49:01,390
successfully to invest in a jobs

13234
07:49:01,390 --> 07:49:02,574
program of $40 million which I

13235
07:49:02,574 --> 07:49:04,443
consider economic development.

13236
07:49:04,443 --> 07:49:06,444
So I'm wondering if maybe that's

13237
07:49:06,444 --> 07:49:08,347
the area that we don't restore

13238
07:49:08,347 --> 07:49:09,248
because we're investing in it in

13239
07:49:09,248 --> 07:49:11,583
a different way right now.

13240
07:49:11,583 --> 07:49:12,884
I don't think that's going to be

13241
07:49:12,884 --> 07:49:15,154
popular amongst some of our

13242
07:49:15,154 --> 07:49:17,355
folks here, but I -- I'll go

13243
07:49:17,355 --> 07:49:17,790
ahead and put that out there.

13244
07:49:17,790 --> 07:49:19,790
Thanks.

13245
07:49:20,259 --> 07:49:21,260
It's only $5 million, I think.

13246
07:49:21,260 --> 07:49:22,728
Not only.

13247
07:49:22,728 --> 07:49:25,128
It's 5 million being proposed

13248
07:49:26,650 --> 07:49:26,531
>> for what?

13249
07:49:26,531 --> 07:49:28,133
>> economic innocent

13250
07:49:28,133 --> 07:49:28,600
centives

13251
07:49:28,600 --> 07:49:30,600
>> got it

13252
07:49:31,437 --> 07:49:33,172
>> although I like the idea of

13253
07:49:33,172 --> 07:49:33,972
incentives that help local,

13254
07:49:33,972 --> 07:49:35,972
existing small businesses.

13255
07:49:36,842 --> 07:49:37,643
In terms of recruiting other

13256
07:49:37,643 --> 07:49:39,511
companies to san antonio right

13257
07:49:39,511 --> 07:49:42,447
now, if I had to choose between

13258
07:49:42,447 --> 07:49:44,847
that and building more

13259
07:49:45,150 --> 07:49:45,451
sidewalks, I would build more

13260
07:49:45,451 --> 07:49:47,451
sidewalks.

13261
07:49:47,719 --> 07:49:49,221
Thank you.

13262
07:49:49,221 --> 07:49:51,621
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

13263
07:49:51,724 --> 07:49:53,325
Anyone else to add anything?

13264
07:49:53,325 --> 07:49:54,493
I'm going to --

13265
07:49:54,493 --> 07:49:55,293
>> I'll add.

13266
07:49:55,293 --> 07:49:57,293
Sorry.

13267
07:49:59,398 --> 07:50:02,368
I'll add that in looking at what

13268
07:50:02,368 --> 07:50:05,504
district two said in the survey.

13269
07:50:05,504 --> 07:50:08,674
I see library services as ninth.

13270
07:50:08,674 --> 07:50:10,443
Youth services as tenth and code

13271
07:50:10,443 --> 07:50:12,443
enforcement as 11th.

13272
07:50:13,779 --> 07:50:15,514
As an educator I cannot support

13273
07:50:15,514 --> 07:50:18,514
cutting funding for library or

13274
07:50:20,953 --> 07:50:22,254
youth services.

13275
07:50:22,254 --> 07:50:22,555
I want to make that noun

13276
07:50:22,555 --> 07:50:23,723
known.

13277
07:50:23,723 --> 07:50:26,723
>> Mayor Nirenberg: I've been a

13278
07:50:26,992 --> 07:50:27,393
chatting off to the side with

13279
07:50:27,393 --> 07:50:29,393
eric.

13280
07:50:30,462 --> 07:50:33,198
This short round has listed a

13281
07:50:33,198 --> 07:50:35,701
lot of things we want.

13282
07:50:35,701 --> 07:50:36,669
Only one item that perhaps one

13283
07:50:36,669 --> 07:50:38,637
member doesn't want.

13284
07:50:38,637 --> 07:50:42,237
So as we're thinking about this,

13285
07:50:42,908 --> 07:50:43,909
what I would like to suggest to

13286
07:50:43,909 --> 07:50:47,460
you, eric, is that all the

13287
07:50:47,460 --> 07:50:47,880
things listed are priorities.

13288
07:50:47,880 --> 07:50:50,583
There are more needs than wants

13289
07:50:50,583 --> 07:50:52,451
but the ones that rise to the

13290
07:50:52,451 --> 07:50:55,421
service are things we should

13291
07:50:55,421 --> 07:50:57,821
protect, things we shouldn't

13292
07:50:58,690 --> 07:50:59,459
target for -- adjustments,

13293
07:50:59,459 --> 07:51:01,426
downward adjustments.

13294
07:51:01,426 --> 07:51:05,626
And these are some of the things

13295
07:51:06,599 --> 07:51:07,466
I've heard around the table as

13296
07:51:07,466 --> 07:51:09,669
consensus: housing with various

13297
07:51:09,669 --> 07:51:12,669
aspects of it, including things

13298
07:51:12,938 --> 07:51:15,938
like the kennel services, for

13299
07:51:17,910 --> 07:51:19,612
instance, at the homeless

13300
07:51:19,612 --> 07:51:20,646
shelter.

13301
07:51:20,646 --> 07:51:22,646
Transportation infrastructure --

13302
07:51:22,815 --> 07:51:24,617
drainage, streets, sidewalks.

13303
07:51:24,617 --> 07:51:24,983
Also in particular vision zero

13304
07:51:24,983 --> 07:51:26,983
investments.

13305
07:51:27,860 --> 07:51:29,789
We've heard a number of times

13306
07:51:29,789 --> 07:51:32,789
the health plan and more

13307
07:51:32,825 --> 07:51:34,360
specifically in the health plan,

13308
07:51:34,360 --> 07:51:36,360
adverse childhood experiences

13309
07:51:36,728 --> 07:51:39,498
which are part of the strategic

13310
07:51:39,498 --> 07:51:42,498
plan as well as domestic

13311
07:51:42,601 --> 07:51:44,601
violence prevention.

13312
07:51:45,538 --> 07:51:47,340
We're hearing policing and

13313
07:51:47,340 --> 07:51:47,773
policing services.

13314
07:51:47,773 --> 07:51:49,773
Public safety.

13315
07:51:51,211 --> 07:51:54,211
Heard acs and perhaps some

13316
07:51:54,246 --> 07:51:55,114
targeted district resources in

13317
07:51:55,114 --> 07:51:56,882
acs.

13318
07:51:56,882 --> 07:51:58,618
As the list goes down, there are

13319
07:51:58,618 --> 07:52:00,220
fewer mentions but those are the

13320
07:52:00,220 --> 07:52:01,620
ones rising to the top as

13321
07:52:01,620 --> 07:52:03,620
highest priorities.

13322
07:52:04,957 --> 07:52:07,726
We're also hearing things like

13323
07:52:07,726 --> 07:52:10,126
the lighting plan, senior

13324
07:52:11,130 --> 07:52:13,266
services, resiliency, et cetera.

13325
07:52:13,266 --> 07:52:14,967
So I think we can reflect on

13326
07:52:14,967 --> 07:52:18,567
that as being some of the

13327
07:52:18,671 --> 07:52:19,906
highest priorities, but to your

13328
07:52:19,906 --> 07:52:22,474
point, COUNCILMAN, we have to

13329
07:52:22,474 --> 07:52:23,342
think of things that weren't

13330
07:52:23,342 --> 07:52:25,578
mentioned that we know as a

13331
07:52:25,578 --> 07:52:25,878
result of the survey are

13332
07:52:25,878 --> 07:52:27,878
important.

13333
07:52:30,383 --> 07:52:31,718
Our residents -- taken for

13334
07:52:31,718 --> 07:52:32,218
granted up here.

13335
07:52:32,218 --> 07:52:34,190
Anyone else?

13336
07:52:34,190 --> 07:52:37,190
>> I'll give you an example

13337
07:52:39,826 --> 07:52:43,290
of -- when I saw the numbers for

13338
07:52:43,290 --> 07:52:45,398
mike shannon's operations --

13339
07:52:45,398 --> 07:52:47,434
code enforcement or -- I didn't

13340
07:52:47,434 --> 07:52:47,934
think, oh, people just don't

13341
07:52:47,934 --> 07:52:49,934
want that.

13342
07:52:50,503 --> 07:52:52,705
The way I look at it is mike and

13343
07:52:52,705 --> 07:52:55,374
his team are doing such a good

13344
07:52:55,374 --> 07:52:58,374
job it's taken for granted.

13345
07:52:59,712 --> 07:53:02,112
People's houses aren't burning

13346
07:53:13,260 --> 07:53:14,894
down, roofs aren't caving in,

13347
07:53:14,894 --> 07:53:15,362
apartments aren't immroed

13348
07:53:15,362 --> 07:53:17,362
ploding.

13349
07:53:17,998 --> 07:53:19,165
I don't want us to think these

13350
07:53:19,165 --> 07:53:19,899
aren't things people don't want

13351
07:53:19,899 --> 07:53:21,899
us to invest

13352
07:53:22,340 --> 07:53:25,340
>> I think we'll be mindful.

13353
07:53:25,605 --> 07:53:27,240
Last year we had the worst

13354
07:53:27,240 --> 07:53:28,708
financial crisis the city ever

13355
07:53:28,708 --> 07:53:29,800
stumbled upon, and we didn't cut

13356
07:53:29,800 --> 07:53:31,800
services.

13357
07:53:31,978 --> 07:53:34,914
We're not looking at the ranking

13358
07:53:34,914 --> 07:53:38,514
of services at number 10 or code

13359
07:53:38,852 --> 07:53:40,720
at number 11 as fruit that needs

13360
07:53:40,720 --> 07:53:42,789
to be picked for a cut.

13361
07:53:42,789 --> 07:53:43,156
That's not how we're looking at

13362
07:53:43,156 --> 07:53:45,156
it.

13363
07:53:45,558 --> 07:53:47,727
I'm going to look at -- we'll

13364
07:53:47,727 --> 07:53:50,727
look at either not restoring

13365
07:53:51,264 --> 07:53:52,999
certain things or there are

13366
07:53:52,999 --> 07:53:54,534
plenty of efficiencies as I go

13367
07:53:54,534 --> 07:53:56,350
through the departments and meet

13368
07:53:56,350 --> 07:53:57,937
with the departments this

13369
07:53:57,937 --> 07:53:59,739
summer -- or in JULY, things

13370
07:53:59,739 --> 07:54:01,241
that we can do better and more

13371
07:54:01,241 --> 07:54:03,443
efficiently and we'll look at

13372
07:54:03,443 --> 07:54:04,644
efficiencies to be able to fund

13373
07:54:04,644 --> 07:54:06,644
and reallocate.

13374
07:54:06,712 --> 07:54:08,810
That's part of the natural

13375
07:54:08,810 --> 07:54:11,510
process we go through, but we're

13376
07:54:11,510 --> 07:54:12,252
not looking at the bottom end to

13377
07:54:12,252 --> 07:54:14,252
do that necessarily.

13378
07:54:14,587 --> 07:54:15,655
I mean, just -- especially after

13379
07:54:15,655 --> 07:54:16,890
the last year that everybody has

13380
07:54:16,890 --> 07:54:18,391
been through and the

13381
07:54:18,391 --> 07:54:20,793
community -- those types of

13382
07:54:20,793 --> 07:54:23,793
things are really important and

13383
07:54:23,830 --> 07:54:25,998
I think we have to do as much as

13384
07:54:25,998 --> 07:54:27,567
we can to protect them.

13385
07:54:27,567 --> 07:54:28,868
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you.

13386
07:54:28,868 --> 07:54:30,868
Council member courage?

13387
07:54:31,237 --> 07:54:33,237
>> yeah, mayor.

13388
07:54:35,609 --> 07:54:37,911
I think you inadvertently left

13389
07:54:37,911 --> 07:54:39,880
something some of us talked

13390
07:54:39,880 --> 07:54:40,380
about and that's the pay

13391
07:54:40,380 --> 07:54:41,281
increase.

13392
07:54:41,281 --> 07:54:41,515
>> Mayor Nirenberg: that's

13393
07:54:41,515 --> 07:54:42,816
right.

13394
07:54:42,816 --> 07:54:44,951
I did mean to mention that.

13395
07:54:44,951 --> 07:54:45,252
That was mentioned several

13396
07:54:45,252 --> 07:54:47,252
times.

13397
07:54:47,620 --> 07:54:49,620
Thank you.

13398
07:54:53,293 --> 07:54:54,795
Council member castillo

13399
07:54:54,795 --> 07:54:57,795
>> small business support -- we

13400
07:54:58,310 --> 07:54:59,799
need to connect to resources and

13401
07:54:59,799 --> 07:55:02,369
explore store front programs to

13402
07:55:02,369 --> 07:55:05,939
ensure we can -- in the same way

13403
07:55:05,939 --> 07:55:09,242
we rehab homes, we can help them

13404
07:55:09,242 --> 07:55:09,910
rehab their businesses.

13405
07:55:09,910 --> 07:55:11,711
>> Mayor Nirenberg: good point.

13406
07:55:11,711 --> 07:55:14,711
Some of these are important

13407
07:55:16,160 --> 07:55:17,150
priorities to talk about in the

13408
07:55:17,150 --> 07:55:18,685
recovery funds discussion we're

13409
07:55:18,685 --> 07:55:20,353
going to have as well.

13410
07:55:20,353 --> 07:55:22,288
Anyone else before I give it

13411
07:55:22,288 --> 07:55:25,888
over to eric to reflect and

13412
07:55:28,528 --> 07:55:30,297
we'll close from there.

13413
07:55:30,297 --> 07:55:30,530
Go ahead, eric.

13414
07:55:30,530 --> 07:55:32,530
Reflect

13415
07:55:33,800 --> 07:55:35,736
>> I want to thank the council

13416
07:55:35,736 --> 07:55:39,473
for two weeks back to back of

13417
07:55:39,473 --> 07:55:41,400
really good conversations.

13418
07:55:41,400 --> 07:55:43,710
The veteran council members will

13419
07:55:43,710 --> 07:55:45,546
remember this, but for the new

13420
07:55:45,546 --> 07:55:47,715
members of the city council,

13421
07:55:47,715 --> 07:55:49,449
this is only the second time --

13422
07:55:49,449 --> 07:55:51,418
last year we did it, we tried

13423
07:55:51,418 --> 07:55:53,587
it -- this is the second time

13424
07:55:53,587 --> 07:55:55,322
where we didn't have a

13425
07:55:55,322 --> 07:55:55,756
facilitator to facilitate the

13426
07:55:55,756 --> 07:55:57,756
conversation.

13427
07:55:59,759 --> 07:56:01,361
Last year was an anomaly but

13428
07:56:01,361 --> 07:56:04,640
I'll tell you that I think it

13429
07:56:04,640 --> 07:56:06,333
flows better not having a

13430
07:56:06,333 --> 07:56:08,936
facilitator who, GOD love him,

13431
07:56:08,936 --> 07:56:11,839
always end up making a hand full

13432
07:56:11,839 --> 07:56:13,674
of council members mad at some

13433
07:56:13,674 --> 07:56:15,308
point of the day, which is what

13434
07:56:15,308 --> 07:56:17,110
a city manager doesn't want to

13435
07:56:17,110 --> 07:56:19,179
happen on a day like this.

13436
07:56:19,179 --> 07:56:19,713
I think we've had good

13437
07:56:19,713 --> 07:56:21,148
conversation.

13438
07:56:21,148 --> 07:56:25,348
One of the things I've said at

13439
07:56:25,953 --> 07:56:28,355
the beginning, mayor, is there

13440
07:56:28,355 --> 07:56:30,424
are certain strategic themes,

13441
07:56:30,424 --> 07:56:32,292
whether the annual budget or

13442
07:56:32,292 --> 07:56:33,994
bond program or federal grants

13443
07:56:33,994 --> 07:56:35,994
or arpa.

13444
07:56:36,130 --> 07:56:37,998
A lot of what we've talked

13445
07:56:37,998 --> 07:56:39,633
about, we should replicate.

13446
07:56:39,633 --> 07:56:41,633
They don't change.

13447
07:56:41,634 --> 07:56:43,604
That's part of a step of being

13448
07:56:43,604 --> 07:56:46,539
strategic and mindful of the

13449
07:56:46,539 --> 07:56:47,741
points on the horizon we're

13450
07:56:47,741 --> 07:56:49,877
trying to get to.

13451
07:56:49,877 --> 07:56:51,746
I want to thank the budget staff

13452
07:56:51,746 --> 07:56:54,146
and executives and departments

13453
07:56:54,381 --> 07:56:56,750
here today, the av.

13454
07:56:56,750 --> 07:56:58,886
I think it was a fruitful day.

13455
07:56:58,886 --> 07:57:00,520
We will begin the next chapter

13456
07:57:00,520 --> 07:57:02,922
of budget development which will

13457
07:57:02,922 --> 07:57:03,124
be the details in the month of

13458
07:57:03,124 --> 07:57:05,124
JULY.

13459
07:57:06,960 --> 07:57:08,162
We will look at -- thank you for

13460
07:57:08,162 --> 07:57:10,864
summarizing the -- kind of what

13461
07:57:10,864 --> 07:57:12,399
you heard -- I think it was a

13462
07:57:12,399 --> 07:57:14,167
good take away for us.

13463
07:57:14,167 --> 07:57:16,303
We're going to do as much as we

13464
07:57:16,303 --> 07:57:18,406
can to stay as focused on the

13465
07:57:18,406 --> 07:57:20,374
things I heard really as the top

13466
07:57:20,374 --> 07:57:22,543
priorities across the board,

13467
07:57:22,543 --> 07:57:25,543
things that we presented on,

13468
07:57:25,646 --> 07:57:28,215
things that came up, like street

13469
07:57:28,215 --> 07:57:30,384
lighting, that are really

13470
07:57:30,384 --> 07:57:32,784
important to the community.

13471
07:57:34,154 --> 07:57:35,489
So that's about as good of a

13472
07:57:35,489 --> 07:57:37,825
reflection on the spot that I

13473
07:57:37,825 --> 07:57:39,825
can give, mayor.

13474
07:57:40,270 --> 07:57:42,730
Thank you to everybody and

13475
07:57:42,730 --> 07:57:43,640
everybody behind me -- now the

13476
07:57:43,640 --> 07:57:44,980
work begins.

13477
07:57:44,980 --> 07:57:44,331
>> Mayor Nirenberg: thank you,

13478
07:57:44,331 --> 07:57:46,331
eric.

13479
07:57:46,333 --> 07:57:47,768
To be clear, there's a lot of

13480
07:57:47,768 --> 07:57:49,136
ears behind us too.

13481
07:57:49,136 --> 07:57:50,571
So I would encourage my

13482
07:57:50,571 --> 07:57:52,672
colleagues to continue to talk

13483
07:57:52,672 --> 07:57:54,700
to you and your staff because

13484
07:57:54,700 --> 07:57:56,711
that's how the budget is

13485
07:57:56,711 --> 07:57:58,879
ultimately going to be baked.

13486
07:57:58,879 --> 07:58:01,148
Thank you to my colleagues.

13487
07:58:01,148 --> 07:58:03,718
For those of us who have been

13488
07:58:03,718 --> 07:58:05,520
back before but also those here

13489
07:58:05,520 --> 07:58:06,153
for the first time, this is a

13490
07:58:06,153 --> 07:58:07,722
great discussion.

13491
07:58:07,722 --> 07:58:09,923
There's been a lot written about

13492
07:58:09,923 --> 07:58:12,192
the new council, the new dynamic

13493
07:58:12,192 --> 07:58:15,429
on the council and I think -- my

13494
07:58:15,429 --> 07:58:17,198
observation is that there's

13495
07:58:17,198 --> 07:58:19,300
already clearly -- with the

13496
07:58:19,300 --> 07:58:21,268
number of prospectus around the

13497
07:58:21,268 --> 07:58:22,770
table -- a very good marketplace

13498
07:58:22,770 --> 07:58:24,105
around the table that I think

13499
07:58:24,105 --> 07:58:26,139
our city will benefit from in

13500
07:58:26,139 --> 07:58:27,575
the years to come from.

13501
07:58:27,575 --> 07:58:28,675
I'm looking forward to the next

13502
07:58:28,675 --> 07:58:31,345
steps of the budget process.

13503
07:58:31,345 --> 07:58:31,745
Thank you for the candid

13504
07:58:31,745 --> 07:58:33,140
dialogue.

13505
07:58:33,140 --> 07:58:35,140
Please stay engaged.

13506
07:58:35,483 --> 07:58:37,884
For those in the public and

13507
07:58:37,884 --> 07:58:39,860
media who are observing council

13508
07:58:39,860 --> 07:58:40,921
over the course of JULY, just

13509
07:58:40,921 --> 07:58:42,924
because we're not meeting

13510
07:58:42,924 --> 07:58:44,792
doesn't mean we're on vacation.

13511
07:58:44,792 --> 07:58:46,527
In fact, the work really begins

13512
07:58:46,527 --> 07:58:48,620
in earnest in JULY and we invite

13513
07:58:48,620 --> 07:58:48,629
you to be part of that process

13514
07:58:48,629 --> 07:58:50,264
as well.

13515
07:58:50,264 --> 07:58:52,767
To the staff, thank you very

13516
07:58:52,767 --> 07:58:53,234
much for making this a

13517
07:58:53,234 --> 07:58:55,234
comfortable day.

13518
07:58:55,336 --> 07:58:57,336
Appreciate everybody working

13519
07:58:58,939 --> 07:59:00,842
through, and believe it or not,

13520
07:59:00,842 --> 07:59:03,744
it is now 5:00 o'clock, right on

13521
07:59:03,744 --> 07:59:04,838
the button, and we are

13522
07:59:04,838 --> 07:59:06,838
adjourned.

13523
07:59:17,892 --> 07:59:18,292
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