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good evening welcome to the planning and

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Transportation Commission regular

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meeting of November 18th tonight um we

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have four Commissioners present one

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commissioner excused out sick

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unfortunately so um before we get

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started I wanted to double check to see

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if we have got connectivity with the

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zoom

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meeting

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um good evening chair Clemens hello

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hello good evening lyette is that you

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yes can you hear me loud and clear yes

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we can hear you is zoom uh working and

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do we have any attendees on Zoom this

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even evening not yet okay I'm sure folks

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will come as we go all right great so we

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called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. um

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item two on the agenda the

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teleconference requests per AB 2449 we

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don't have any this evening so we can

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move on to item three the Pledge of

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Allegiance Al to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the Republic

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for which it stands one nation under God

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indivisible liberty and justice for

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all thank you I'll ask Andrea for the

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roll call

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please commissioner Bundy present

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commissioner anund present commissioner

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CA present Vice chair Garvey is excused

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and chair Clemens present thank you

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now we're on to item five on tonight's

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agenda the approval of minutes from the

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October 7th uh commission

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meeting uh do any Commissioners have

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comments or requested edits to the

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minutes no okay with that could I get a

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motion

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please I move that the commission

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approve the October 7th

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2024 planning and Transportation

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Commission meeting minutes thank you and

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second thank

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you a roll call commissioner Bundy I

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commissioner

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anund yes commissioner castan yes Vice

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chair Garvey is excused and chair

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Clemens yes thank

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you okay tonight we have a public

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hearing and then we have new business a

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new draft plan and then a study session

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so a lot of meaty things this evening

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I wanted to um call out the procedure

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for the public hearing first staff will

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present a report on the history physical

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features on the application followed by

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recommendations and then if they would

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like to the applicant can then present

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and thereafter interested members of the

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community may speak on the proposal when

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all interested parties have had an

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opportunity to be heard the hearing will

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be closed and no further discussion from

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the floor can be held the commission

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will then consider the the evidence and

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make its

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recommendation and be mindful please if

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you challenge a public hearing item in

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court you may be limited to raising only

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those issues that you or someone else

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raised at the public hearing described

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in this notice in the public notice or

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in written correspondence delivered to

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the city at or prior to this public

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hearing speakers if there are any

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speakers from the public please um and

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would like to speak please fill out a

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speaker card in the rear and um and hand

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it to the recording secretary thank

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thank you uh before you address the

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commission so we can keep track of

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people's names the the speaker can then

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come up to the microphone and we'll have

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two minutes to speak and they'll be

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recorded um and that'll help us prepare

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the minutes so with that we go to um a

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public hearing on 782 Elm Street this is

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a request for a new vesting tentative

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map to create four attached town home

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units with atg grade covered parking

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and we have a presentation from staff

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yes thank you thank you um good evening

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Commissioners my name is Laura richstone

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and I'm a senior planner with current

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development and as you heard this

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evening I will be presenting an

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application for a new vesting tentative

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map at 782 Elm

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Street oh goodness

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sorry about

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okay um the request for tonight is to

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consider a new vesting tentative map to

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create four attached town home units

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with Associated atg grade parking at 782

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Elm a previous tentative map was uh

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approved pln

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2017-18 3 that map was approved in 2018

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but has since

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expired staff will go over and touch

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upon the Project's background later in

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the

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presentation uh however staff would like

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to note that the current application for

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the tenative map uh proposes the same

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map

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configuration as the 2018 map with no

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changes to the number of units or to the

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size of those

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units so tonight staff will present an

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overview of the project its background

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history requested entitlements and

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conformance with the city regulations

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and then the item will end with

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questions comments and an action from

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the

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commission so at a granular level the

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project site outlined here in pink is

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located on Elm Street near the

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intersection uh with Olive Street and

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sits about a uh and sits on a block

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developed with multifam and single

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family structures

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moving to a wider perspective the

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project site sits about a block south of

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the library City Hall complex and is

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located uh two lots south from the elm

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Terrace condos if you're familiar and is

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within walking distance of our

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downtown from a zoning perspective the

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project site is zoned RM 100 multif

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family which can be seen here in the

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orange coloring

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the project parcel is 7,000 square ft in

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size and proposes a an F of one excuse

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me 1.59 or 2.0 is the max um eight cover

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eight covered parking

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spaces uh a height of 40t 11 in where 50

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ft is the maximum and is SQL exempt

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under Section 15303 new construction or

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conversion of small structures

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so getting into the background on

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December 18th the previous uh applicant

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Viv was granted approval for a design

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review vesting tentative map prot

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protected tree removal and conditional

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use permit for the subject property to

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demolish an existing single story single

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family home and construct uh and to

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construct for a new four story for unit

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town home building and Associated outg

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grade

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parking the original entitlement was set

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to expire in December 2020 24 months

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after after issuance as per usual

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however during this time uh it was the

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covid-19 pandemic and the state granted

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all housing projects an additional

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18month uh Lifan

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lifespan so this uh this extended the

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entitlement for this project until June

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after entitlement building permits were

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issued in November

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2020 the project was then sold from the

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original applicant to the current

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applicant in April

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2022 and the current applicant began

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acting on the issued building permits

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and demolished the existing or the

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previous single family structure in June

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20122 after some structural revisions in

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order to accommodate a stick build

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uh construction type construction be

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began on site uh February

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2023 as the new applicant began

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preparations uh to file the final

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Subdivision map in

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2023 it was discovered that the original

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map expired in June of the previous year

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2022 as no map extension was filed

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before that original map expired a new

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vesting tenative map is now required

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however since the building permits were

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issued in 2020 when the original vesting

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tenative map was still valid the

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applicant by virtue of the issued

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building permits continues to have

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vested rights uh and does not need to

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secure additional entitlements or

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approvals for the property use or the

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design of the structure and that comes

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from the um uh map act the state map

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act so the request for the planning and

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Transportation uh commission is to

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review and take action on a new vesting

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tenative map to create four new town

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home units eligible for individual sale

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and

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ownership as this project is consistent

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with the standards of the municipal code

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the Planning Commission will be the

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final approving body unless this project

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is appealed to city

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council seen here is the proposed

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vesting tentative map to create the four

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new town home units for individual sale

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and ownership the tenative map includes

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a shared driveway along the south side

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of the property shared open spaces at

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the rear and front of the property and

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atg grade individual two-car garages for

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each unit the map has been reviewed by

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the Department of Public Works and meets

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all subdivision and storm water

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requirements the site plan reflects the

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proposed Subdivision map and includes

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the same elements such as the S driveway

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here in purple landscape landscaped open

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spaces at the front and the rear in

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green and a pathway along the north uh

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side of the structure in

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blue although the design of the

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structure is not under

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consideration staff has included

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elevations to provide the commission

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some contacts for the overall project

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and pictured here is the North or right

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side of the project

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here is the South SL left side of the uh

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project where the shared driveway and

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atg atg grade garages are located and

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they

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are highlighted in

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pink here is the front of the structure

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as viewed from Elm and as viewed from

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Elm only one unit is

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visible and here is the reare

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overall landscaping for the project

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includes two Street trees in front of

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the project and landscaped areas

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highlighted in green at the front and

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the rear of the property all of the

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front yard is common shared space and

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half of the rear yard is shared common

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space the remainder of the other half of

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the rear yard uh is private open space

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for the rear

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unit open space is also provided through

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decks on the top floor of the

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structure um facing the share driveway

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and you can see them here highlighted in

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dark orange the deck facing Elm Street

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is unoccupied and is not accessible by

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any of the

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units public Outreach for this project

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included mail notices to residences

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within 300 ft a posted notice on site

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and notices and a notice in the

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newspaper all notices occurred at least

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10 calendar days before the date of this

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meeting should the commission decide to

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move forward here is the motion before

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you and staff would also like to excuse

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me oh staff would also like to make

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a um a correction uh to formally correct

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an error in the staff report and clarify

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that the deadline to file approval for

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this project would be 5:00 p.m. on

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Monday December 2nd um if the project is

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approved the original staff report and

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notice had a date of November 28th

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however that falls on Thanksgiving so to

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allow for the holiday the appeal date

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has been extended to the following

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Monday thank you that that concludes our

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my presentation and I am available for

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any questions thank you very much Laura

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appreciate it um before we go on to

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questions for Laura I wanted to see if

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the applicant was present and wanted to

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make a

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presentation great and you're with craft

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builders welcome thank you great um and

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so for that with that let's go to

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clarifying commissioner questions and

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then um and then public comments so um

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I'll start over to my right commissioner

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Anand would you like to ask any

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clarifying questions yes I just have one

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thank you for the presentation that was

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very clear um Elm Street is very narrow

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yes um and there are cars parked I I go

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through that street almost every day and

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there are cars parked on both sides

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there are Big Trees so it's just um a

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comment or rather a request if you could

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when when these cars will come out of

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the driveway either go left or right the

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visibility is poor and there are blind

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spots on that street so if some sort of

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a mirror can be installed to assist with

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exiting cars there are what eight cars

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in the driveway and it's going to be

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fairly like the intersection is going to

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be used fairly like quite a lot with

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like maybe children playing school kids

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crossing so it's just some extra

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assistance will be helpful on that

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narrow street where the visibility may

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not be the best yes um to help address

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this those uh issues uh and concerns

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when projects are reviewed we do look at

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the site train triangle to make sure

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that there aren't any obstructions

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within that to make sure that your ESS

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and Ingress can see vehicles and what

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what have you but I also believe that

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the trees have been removed um at the

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project site I was they have and then um

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the applicant can address if he would

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like to is dra put reques great thank

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you great thank you any other clarifying

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questions no no okay we'll move on to

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commissioner cast Ana no questions thank

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you commissioner

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Bundy um I think this question has been

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answered but just regarding the

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California Water Service right of way

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that was shown just would like to hear

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kind of where that stands yes so um the

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original survey noted an easement for

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cow water um this easement was non

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plottable meaning that I didn't say

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where it was on site it just that the

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site was encumbered by this easement um

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it was noted by our Department of Public

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Works and as a condition um they added a

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condition I believe it's condition

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number 12 to the report to require

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either that the easement be expunged or

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removed from the site or that the

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applicant uh

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get um the a letter from calwater saying

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that there are no conflicts um so that

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is a condition and then I was speaking

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to the applicant prior and he says he

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already has a letter of approval um from

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calwater but we would check that again

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before the filing of the final map thank

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you very

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much thank you that was actually my

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question which is what is a non

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plottable water easement so that was

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exciting um and I just wanted to clarify

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that entitlements are in place they are

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vested everything adhered to the 2018

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laws or or we made exceptions but um

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just wanted to clarify it sounds like

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the map is being brought the because the

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map was not recorded today standards

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apply

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and so the storm water regulations that

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have gone into effect since

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2018 now are being added to the map

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conditions is that correct yes 100%

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correct thank you one other quick

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question is um because these are for

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sale units is a condition of the permit

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that an HOA was formed and papers filed

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with the state is that made explicit in

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the conditions for the permit or is that

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just required under state law so you

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don't have to really stated again so the

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conditions require that um they the

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applicant submit ccnr um and then for

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submitting the HOA I believe that's just

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handled by the state and we don't see

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that um but I'm not 100% sure um but

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usually we don't see the HOA just the

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ccrs okay yeah all right thank you

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thanks very much okay with that um no

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other clarifying questions right so

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we'll go on to comments from the public

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public if you are joining via zoom and

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would like to address the uh the

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commission please raise your hand at

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this time on Zoom I'd like to take the

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remote ones first um once we begin

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taking public comments on Zoom we will

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not be allowing additional commenters to

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join the queue so we're going to open

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the queue for a limited time and then

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close the queue on Zoom so this is your

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chance to now raise your hand so you can

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get into the queue on Zoom to speak

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um Lynette do we have anyone with a

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raised hand on Zoom there are

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no there are no hands raised okay thank

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you so why don't we go to anyone in the

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public Chambers here while we keep open

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for another minute or so the um the zoom

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possibility that someone wants to raise

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her hand is there anyone in uh in

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Chambers here that would like to make a

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comment in

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person no I didn't have any speaker

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cards so I just wanted to double check

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all right thanks uh Lynette any hands on

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Zoom there are none okay um but there

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are our attendees on Zoom is that right

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yes we have three okay great um welcome

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to everyone uh I'm gonna like soft Sho

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pedal soft pedal for 30 more seconds to

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see if anyone wants to raise their

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hand uh we do have one hands raised

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excellent excellent thank you um so they

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figured out how to do the raise hand

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icon so I don't have to read this on the

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screen um so uh speaker you can go ahead

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and if you can identify yourself and you

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have two minutes thank you it's simpler

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than that this is Rees Krishna no

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comment just didn't want you to worry

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about it all is

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well thank you for that reassurance from

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Zoom I appreciate

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that okay great um

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well with that there don't seem to be

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any public comments so I need a motion

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to close the

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hearing I move that we close public

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comment thank you oh yeah I think that's

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better stated close public comment uh do

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we have a second for that I second the

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motion thank you we have the roll call

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commissioner Bundy yes commissioner

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Anand yes commissioner castanada yes

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Vice chair Garvey is excused and chair

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Clement yes thank you okay public

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comment period is closed and so let's go

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ahead with discussion on uh commissioner

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comments I why don't we start down to my

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left with commissioner Bundy thank you

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um I think that the findings of this um

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staff report are well substantiated I

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think this is a really interesting

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project it's great to see the addition

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of the three Net units um in conformance

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with the zoning code it's a very

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thoughtfully designed project and I'm

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supporting

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great thanks commissioner

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castan I agree that the findings with

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the findings um I also uh appreciate

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this project and that the size of the

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units is going to accommodate families

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which I think is a nice feature

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especially in this particular area I

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have visited the site and I think it's a

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very nice uh design so I approved the

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project thanks commissioner commissioner

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Anand

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I agree with my fellow Commissioners and

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I I really like the idea that this is

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more so that this is closer to the

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downtown which will encourage people to

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walk um and pull out their carless often

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and yeah I look forward to hosting more

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families in San Carlos so I approved

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this

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project great and um my comment um is

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similar um I really like how much of an

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infill project this is it doesn't look

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like many units from the street looks

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like one unit but really we're getting

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four units in that space so um at a good

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neighborhood scale and um and I thought

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I just wanted to commend Laura that I

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thought the council or the commission

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memo was very clearly written to

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distinguish what was at hand today what

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was not that was what was already

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decided in 2018 so I appreciate the

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staff work on

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that um and so with that do we have a

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motion thank you Laura

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I move that the planning and

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Transportation Commission approved the

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request for a vesting tentative map to

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allow for the construction of a new

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4unit four-story multifam residential

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Town Home Building at 782 Elm Street APN

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0501

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512000 based on the findings and for the

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reasons Incorporated in the staff

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report right and a

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second a second the

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motion excellent roll call commissioner

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Bundy yes yes sorry commissioner Anand

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yes commissioner castanada yes Vice

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chair gy is excused and chair Clemens

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yes thank you

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congratulations um and nice project I

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want to say that yeah thank you I did

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want to note that the appeal period

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um uh if somebody is interested in

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appealing the planning Transportation

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commission's action will be final unless

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it is appeal to the city council within

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10 days of the date of the action and

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again the correction from the staff memo

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is that the deadline to file an appeal

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is 5:00 pm on Monday December

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2nd uh

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2024 thank you Laura thank you

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all great so now we're moving on to new

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business

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and we are going to hear tonight about

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the St Carlos local roadway safety plan

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and the action that is before the

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commission is to

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recommend um or comment on the um the

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fact that we would like Council to adopt

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the countywide and the city um L lrsp

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and the vision zero goals so that's what

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the commission's as being asked to

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do and we have a staff report hello good

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evening chair commissioner ERS my name

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is Han hushi and I'm the senior traffic

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engineer with our public works

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department uh very excited to be here

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tonight to present to you our proposed

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local roadway safety

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plan um this slide uh kind of goes over

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the presentation topics and it's um

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somewhat uh an overview of what the plan

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is itself so first we'll go over uh

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defining what a local roadway safety

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plan is um then we will discuss our

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commitment to Vision zero uh I'll

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explain how the plan was developed and

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the safety analysis that went into it

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how the projects were prioritized what

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recommendations come out of the plan and

559
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:08,520
where we go next from

560
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,839
there what is a local roadway safety

561
00:34:10,839 --> 00:34:12,679
plan a local roadway safety plan

562
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,960
identifies actions that an agency can

563
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,200
take to align itself with a Safe Systems

564
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,639
approach as you see on the right side of

565
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,159
the slides a safety A Safe Systems

566
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,760
approach um focuses on five elements the

567
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,520
two that are most uh commonly controlled

568
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,879
by uh any agency are safe speeds and

569
00:34:33,879 --> 00:34:36,399
safe roadways uh the two that are less

570
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:38,440
commonly controlled by the agency but

571
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,760
are are still relevant to the work are

572
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,079
safe road users and postc crash care uh

573
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:46,720
the one element that is uh typically

574
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,760
handled legislatively and is outside of

575
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,280
the purview of the city uh is safe

576
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,280
vehicles but that's still relevant to

577
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,119
this

578
00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:58,200
work local roadway safety um plan also

579
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,000
um identifies historical and existing uh

580
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,280
Benchmark uh in answering the question

581
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520
of what is leading to death and severe

582
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,119
crashes on our roadways it also defines

583
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,359
a series of actions projects and

584
00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:16,280
partners to help us carry out solutions

585
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,800
to reduce death and severe crashes on

586
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,870
our roadway

587
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,760
Network in early 2023 uh City and County

588
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,320
Association of government seag

589
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,400
uh embarked on an effort to create a

590
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,320
countywide unified local roadway safety

591
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,599
plan uh for um the entire County as well

592
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:41,040
as for the 10 cities in its jurisdiction

593
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,599
that did not have a local roadway safety

594
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,599
plan we in St Carlos are one of the 10

595
00:35:46,599 --> 00:35:50,760
that still don't have one um it is now

596
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,880
required by a lot of Grant uh sources

597
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319
that every agency has a local roadway

598
00:35:56,319 --> 00:35:58,319
safety plan and commits to Vision zero

599
00:35:58,319 --> 00:36:01,119
goal to be eligible so having this plan

600
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:04,280
will help us um position us to be able

601
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,400
to apply to a number of Grants such as

602
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,599
obac calr HP Grant US Department of

603
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,079
Transportation Safe Streets for all

604
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:14,119
Grant among others what you see on the

605
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:18,280
right is a snapshot of a comparison of

606
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,640
where the 21 cak cities uh kind of rank

607
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,920
against each other in Crash history in

608
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,280
the past 5 years where the study period

609
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,520
was

610
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,200
uh you can see that St Carlos kind of

611
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,200
falls in the middle we're not doing too

612
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,920
terribly but we're not really great

613
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,480
either in the 5-year study period we

614
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,280
experienced 281 surface crashes on our

615
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,280
roadway Network unfortunately 32 of

616
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,960
those were fatal SL severe injury and as

617
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,790
we all know one is too

618
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,480
many cag's um commitment to V Vision

619
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,400
zero collectively as a County is to

620
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,079
eliminate or significantly reduce fatal

621
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,480
and severe crash injuries by 2050 this

622
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,440
aligns us with state and federal

623
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,599
requirements and it the plan also

624
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:10,599
includes some recommendations on how to

625
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:13,000
Kickstart to get us out of the status

626
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,119
quo on safety on our roadway network uh

627
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:18,560
particularly to City of St Carlos our

628
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,720
commitment is to eliminate all traffic

629
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,800
fatalities and reduce the number of

630
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,319
non-fatal crashes by 50% by the year

631
00:37:25,319 --> 00:37:28,200
2050

632
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,040
we'll now move on to discuss how the

633
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,319
plan was developed cak started the

634
00:37:32,319 --> 00:37:36,240
effort by creating a very um cohesive

635
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,480
and large group of stakeholders in an

636
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,520
Advisory Group um all the agencies you

637
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,839
see on this slide are participants in

638
00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:47,200
this effort um the staff from St Carlos

639
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,240
participated from the very beginning in

640
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:52,440
um the technical analysis data

641
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,040
collection um all the public engagement

642
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,119
efforts we collaborated in creating the

643
00:37:57,119 --> 00:38:00,160
plan we reviewed all the deliverables

644
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,319
and um the final draft of the

645
00:38:04,319 --> 00:38:07,119
plan uh the public was also very

646
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:09,440
instrumental in providing input to the

647
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,400
project I'm sorry if you're not quite

648
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,200
able to read everything on the slide but

649
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,640
essentially it summarizes all the

650
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,880
Outreach efforts that were done in 2023

651
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,960
and 2024 the St Carlos particular effort

652
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,359
in addition to all the social media and

653
00:38:24,359 --> 00:38:27,560
virtual um efforts the inperson event in

654
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,640
St Carlos occurred on August 27th of

655
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,880
last year um last year this year August

656
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,160
27th of this year um during our um block

657
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,640
party event in downtown the public was

658
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,240
encouraged to provide comments in um the

659
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,839
engagement events they attended they

660
00:38:48,839 --> 00:38:51,280
were also directed to this very cool

661
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,440
interactive map where they could pick a

662
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,920
point put their comment um on the map

663
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,720
where they had had concerns or comments

664
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,640
or questions and cag's team did a

665
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,240
wonderful effort they responded to every

666
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,319
single comment and all of those comments

667
00:39:06,319 --> 00:39:08,960
and responses are attached as an

668
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,119
appendix to the plan uh happy to report

669
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,359
that city of St Carlos we managed to win

670
00:39:14,359 --> 00:39:16,400
the prize on the most participation

671
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,640
among all the cities involved so we were

672
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,319
uh our our thoughts are very very well

673
00:39:22,319 --> 00:39:24,800
represented in the

674
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,359
plan uh in the next slides um I will

675
00:39:28,359 --> 00:39:31,040
move give you a a high level overview of

676
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,680
the technical analysis that went into

677
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480
the plan uh based on a 5-year crash

678
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,440
history and the patterns associated with

679
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,599
those the plan developed a countywide

680
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,079
high Injury Network for vehicles uh a

681
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:45,760
high Injury Network for pedestrians and

682
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,160
one for bicyclists through this effort

683
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,280
it also identified some emphasis areas

684
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,240
uh that are characteristics that

685
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:56,119
contribute um and are most associated

686
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,560
with severe and fatality uh crashes

687
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,319
these emphasis areas are uh pedestrian

688
00:40:02,319 --> 00:40:05,280
and bicycle safety nighttime low

689
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,440
visibility uh having unsignalized

690
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,079
intersection on major roadways um

691
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,000
vulnerable user groups such as a youth

692
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,359
and elderly uh High vehicle speeds um

693
00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:17,720
roadways that are um posted as the

694
00:40:17,720 --> 00:40:19,720
highest speed limits at 35 miles or

695
00:40:19,720 --> 00:40:22,760
above and alcohol

696
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,680
consumptions uh we then uh took all

697
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,000
these um uh High injury networks to a

698
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,319
local level and identified some priority

699
00:40:33,319 --> 00:40:36,680
project locations uh the three factors

700
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,520
that uh were used as inputs to identify

701
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,200
the specific locations were first crash

702
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,599
history um you know what locations

703
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:46,480
experience the highest frequency and

704
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,720
most SE severe types of crashes uh

705
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,200
social Equity what location and what

706
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,640
projects would most benefit uh

707
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960
disadvantaged populations and set us for

708
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,280
success ESS uh in Grant applications as

709
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,240
well as systemic factors these are

710
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:04,000
roadway Lane use characteristics

711
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,960
associated with crash frequency and

712
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,680
severity one thing to note here is that

713
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,560
projects were prioritized and ranked in

714
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,680
each agency individually uh so that we

715
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,000
will not compare to other cities that

716
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,079
potentially have had uh bigger problems

717
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,200
uh so you're you're competing against

718
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,030
yourself um to be fair

719
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,240
out of those priority locations they

720
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,319
they then came up with a list of

721
00:41:34,319 --> 00:41:37,119
treatment uh at intersections and

722
00:41:37,119 --> 00:41:39,839
roadway segments to increase safety at

723
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:41,720
those priority locations the list is

724
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:44,839
very comprehensive and not only applies

725
00:41:44,839 --> 00:41:47,200
to those specific locations but it also

726
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,319
can be applied proactively to other

727
00:41:49,319 --> 00:41:51,040
locations that have

728
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,359
similarities um it also um picked the

729
00:41:54,359 --> 00:41:56,160
highest priority projects in each

730
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,160
category and developed a preliminary

731
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,760
scope for them this sets us up for uh

732
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,599
future concept design and Grant

733
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:05,520
application and projects that are

734
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,440
identified on a local roadway safety

735
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,359
plan typically have carry a lot of

736
00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:12,309
weight on Grant

737
00:42:12,319 --> 00:42:15,520
applications lastly in keeping in line

738
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,040
with uh A A Safe Systems approach the

739
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,040
the plan also has some non-engineering

740
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,640
recommendations these include uh

741
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,680
coordinating with our partners with law

742
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,040
enforcement to increase speed

743
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,640
enforcement to install more radar

744
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,200
feedback signs to bring more speed

745
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,240
awareness to the driver uh collaborating

746
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,920
with our um School District to have more

747
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,480
education around safety on the road um

748
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,480
dedicating more funding to safety

749
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,200
projects coordinating at the plan level

750
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,200
more safe rust to school projects more

751
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,200
uh speed management around school zones

752
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,920
things like that that collectively

753
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,240
increase um safety on our roadway

754
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:57,839
network but aren't necessarily

755
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:02,309
engineering

756
00:43:02,319 --> 00:43:05,640
designs what are the next steps uh cak

757
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,160
recommended that upon their adoption of

758
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,480
the countywide plan in June of this year

759
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,119
um they local jurisdictions adopt a

760
00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:18,559
local resolution co-signing the

761
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:22,359
countywide um effort agreeing with the

762
00:43:22,359 --> 00:43:24,800
vision zero goals and plans as well as

763
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,359
adopting a local resolution that that

764
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:30,359
adopts the local chapter in our case St

765
00:43:30,359 --> 00:43:33,040
Carlos local roadway safety plan once

766
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,680
the plan is adopted we uh will be

767
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,720
eligible for for a slew of grant

768
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:42,359
opportunities which will apply uh for uh

769
00:43:42,359 --> 00:43:44,760
the projects identified in the plan uh

770
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,280
once the projects are funded we can

771
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,599
start implementing them and and track

772
00:43:48,599 --> 00:43:50,400
our progress on how we're doing in the

773
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,559
plan uh CAG has committed to updating

774
00:43:53,559 --> 00:43:56,079
this plan every five years or so um so

775
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:57,680
they will um

776
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,640
uh shepher the effort and this will be a

777
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,990
living

778
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,119
document that brings us to the ask um

779
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:08,359
tonight from the commission uh we

780
00:44:08,359 --> 00:44:10,760
request that you recommend to city

781
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,400
council that they adopt um the

782
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,960
countywide and the local St Carlos uh

783
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,680
local roadway safety plan uh and the

784
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,280
accompanying Vision zero

785
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,760
goals this concludes my presentation

786
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,440
thank you for your time and attention

787
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,920
and I will take any questions you may

788
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,599
have

789
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:29,960
thank you honey I appreciate it that was

790
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,839
a very helpful presentation um I wanted

791
00:44:32,839 --> 00:44:34,400
to see if Commissioners had any

792
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,960
clarifying questions um before we go to

793
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,839
questions for members of the public so

794
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:42,640
we'll start down here with commissioner

795
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,359
Bundy no questions quite

796
00:44:46,359 --> 00:44:48,520
yet Mr

797
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,640
castan um I have I have a question about

798
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,160
um the scope of the plan and how the

799
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,400
plan affects us as an individual city is

800
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,720
our signing on to this

801
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:06,880
plan um commit us to any

802
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,720
particular um actions or is it is it

803
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,280
advisory it is advisory so the goals

804
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,920
that we're committing to in redu

805
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,920
significantly reducing or eliminating

806
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,520
crashes by a certain

807
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,280
date excuse me we cannot be legally held

808
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,559
to it it's meant to be an ambitious goal

809
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,200
but we are not held to it okay and then

810
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,440
will this in any way we we have many

811
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,800
other

812
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,559
Partnerships um with many other

813
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:37,520
organizations involved in transportation

814
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,040
is this going to streamline any of that

815
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,839
process will will we then be eliminating

816
00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:45,520
some of these

817
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,599
other um overlaps or something is it um

818
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,760
I don't know if necessarily it o it

819
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,119
eliminates any overlapping but it

820
00:45:54,119 --> 00:45:57,119
simplifies a lot of the process for us

821
00:45:57,119 --> 00:46:00,240
um um a lot of the grant applications

822
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,920
now require you to have an adopted local

823
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,880
roadway safety plan and a commitment to

824
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,760
Vision zero or you're not even eligible

825
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,520
to apply to begin with this is on a lot

826
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:13,760
of U federal and state monies um but a

827
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,599
lot of local monies come from those

828
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,680
sources as well so if we don't have this

829
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,680
uh we cannot apply for that many grants

830
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,520
out there anymore okay I I do want to

831
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,480
also commend you for such a thorough

832
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,559
report was very good information thank

833
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:32,880
you thank you and commissioner Anan do

834
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,359
you have any clarifying questions yes um

835
00:46:36,359 --> 00:46:38,599
thank you for a comprehensive report the

836
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:40,839
one data though that I was looking for

837
00:46:40,839 --> 00:46:44,680
was um some statistics related to rental

838
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,200
car fatalities or rental car crashes

839
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,520
because these are people who come from

840
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,760
out of state out of country um if if

841
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,640
they are getting confused if the signage

842
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,359
is not very clear it clearly means that

843
00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:59,640
we're not we're not doing a good job at

844
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,400
kind of making this more I I saw stats

845
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,040
related to people of color but at the

846
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,280
same time we're not doing a doing a good

847
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,640
enough job to let people from outside

848
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,760
understand our signage for example bike

849
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,880
lens what color like maybe we can color

850
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,000
them as specific colors they're like

851
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,880
more eye-catching or or two-way stop

852
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,000
signs like you know so just like some

853
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,079
some stats on um out of state and out of

854
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,040
country Rentals the incidents would be

855
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,440
um would have been greatly helpful but

856
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,319
at the same time I am amazed by the by

857
00:47:33,319 --> 00:47:36,000
the amazing graphics and I I would

858
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,400
encourage some part of it to be shared

859
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640
with the over overall community of San

860
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,000
Carlos just so people are more aware of

861
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,599
this yes we will publish it upon

862
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:48,559
adoption on our website and uh cak has

863
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:50,400
already published the countywide and

864
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,119
individual jurisdictions on their

865
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,400
website along with the interactive maps

866
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,800
and all the comments everything is

867
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,359
available on their website it but we

868
00:47:57,359 --> 00:47:58,960
will also make it available on our

869
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,640
website that would be very helpful thank

870
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,400
you thank you honey I had a couple of

871
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,680
questions

872
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,200
um

873
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,839
the you talked about you know I

874
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:16,240
appreciate you clarifying how the um how

875
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:18,359
you said that the jurisdictions were not

876
00:48:18,359 --> 00:48:20,400
competing against other jurisdictions as

877
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,440
we assessed you know what our needs are

878
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,559
and um how they were looked at um and

879
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:29,880
pack at page 136 it did cite crash

880
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,480
history social equity and systemic

881
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,440
factors

882
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,880
um is there any frame about how much you

883
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,880
wait each one of those now you I

884
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,760
understand it's only us waiting against

885
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,440
our own correct but even with within our

886
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,079
own um each one of those categories has

887
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:50,359
a different weight so if you look in the

888
00:48:50,359 --> 00:48:52,359
local roadway safety plan St Carlos

889
00:48:52,359 --> 00:48:55,680
chapter it explains how each category is

890
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,480
weighted against the other and they did

891
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160
this big big whole statistical analysis

892
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,760
to come up with what the breakdown

893
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,240
should be and that's all explained in

894
00:49:05,240 --> 00:49:08,119
the countywide um chapter but if you go

895
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:10,960
to the local chapter it tells you this

896
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,040
carries this percent weight this carries

897
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,240
that percent weight and why and what did

898
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:18,799
the analysis look at and they looked at

899
00:49:18,799 --> 00:49:20,799
each jurisdiction individually they

900
00:49:20,799 --> 00:49:22,920
looked at each jurisdiction individually

901
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,880
how would you know if social equity for

902
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,480
instance was a big was a big driver here

903
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,680
should be a big area of prioritization

904
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,440
versus systems in San Carlos it really

905
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,480
is not because we are a very affluent

906
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:41,400
City uh For Better or For Worse and um

907
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,880
this is why it's great that it doesn't

908
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,839
compare everybody in one pot because

909
00:49:44,839 --> 00:49:46,319
then we would be at the very bottom of

910
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:48,280
the pot I was thinking the same thing

911
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,079
yeah so uh for that sense we are

912
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:55,280
unlikely to win a lot of big competitive

913
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,440
federal grants because we don't have the

914
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,880
equity but even within San Carlos there

915
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,599
are parts that are um less privileged

916
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:05,040
than others so they need to be

917
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,680
considered right thank you for that um

918
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,440
couple more questions the there were

919
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,480
several

920
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,880
actions in the

921
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,520
resolution um to and what the

922
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,960
recommendation would be if we suggested

923
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,760
the council that they should say yes to

924
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,640
this yes to pursue all the policies to

925
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,119
refer the prioritized locations to

926
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:27,880
participate

927
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,559
um in the tsac L iag and to adopt the

928
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:35,359
plan and Implement an inequitable so all

929
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:39,200
of those issues were was that driven by

930
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,440
CAG resolution you're going to pass okay

931
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,319
that was helpful um and then finally

932
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:46,839
Vision zero plans as you said most

933
00:50:46,839 --> 00:50:48,720
jurisdictions have them already or are

934
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:53,079
getting them um nobody's gotten to zero

935
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:57,640
no and so I appreciated the emphasis

936
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,000
areas for our safety improvements um

937
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,960
here and there I was just wondering if

938
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,680
the

939
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,839
plan had any analysis as to what the

940
00:51:08,839 --> 00:51:11,319
problems what were the um impediments to

941
00:51:11,319 --> 00:51:13,040
trying to get to zero and the places

942
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,640
that do have Vision zero yes so that's

943
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,960
where the emphasis areas are so there is

944
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,960
emphasis areas for the county and then

945
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,079
there's emphasis areas for individual

946
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,079
cities um so whatever is the most common

947
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:27,079
contributing factor in that City

948
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:29,400
is identified so we have a list of

949
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,440
factors particular to St Carlos so we

950
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,160
would be looking at those and how to

951
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,000
eliminate them or reduce them in an

952
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,240
attempt to reach the

953
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,200
Zero thanks for that um those are my

954
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,079
only questions any other clarifying

955
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:45,720
questions yeah commissioner Bundy yeah I

956
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:49,079
did have one question I appreciated the

957
00:51:49,079 --> 00:51:51,000
robust scoping of the two projects that

958
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,319
were included um but noted that the Alam

959
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:56,799
was out of scope for the consultant's

960
00:51:56,799 --> 00:51:59,040
and just wanted to you know is there an

961
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,880
opportunity once that project is scoped

962
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,359
to get it into the plan to make it

963
00:52:02,359 --> 00:52:04,599
competitive for funding yes it will be

964
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:06,760
uh hopefully in the next round I really

965
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,000
tried to get it on this plan but they

966
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,920
ran out of budget they even tried to see

967
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,440
if they could get budget from less

968
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,839
participating cities to dedicate to it

969
00:52:14,839 --> 00:52:16,520
but at the end of the day they just ran

970
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,000
out of money uh so that project is very

971
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,200
high priority for us uh so we're we're

972
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,400
pushing to get it on because being on

973
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,079
this plan means a lot in the grant

974
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:28,040
worlds so we will definitely make an

975
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,119
effort to get it on there next time

976
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:32,510
thank

977
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,079
you I have a question oh yes

978
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:37,799
commissioner um so I as I understand

979
00:52:37,799 --> 00:52:39,440
that the idea is here to kind of compare

980
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,200
different different cities in the county

981
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,200
and kind of learn some best practices

982
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,920
from each other is that one of the ideas

983
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,760
of this um at the end of the

984
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,280
um this phase I guess we could call it a

985
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,720
phase when it's time to update it cak

986
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:56,880
will look into each individual agent and

987
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,680
see how they have done so we're all

988
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,160
required to track our progress and they

989
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,760
will do another run of the accident

990
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,160
numbers to see how you were now and how

991
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,680
you are 5 years from now and see what

992
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,440
practices in What cities were more

993
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,280
successful and I guess those will be

994
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,960
recommended more is there is there an

995
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,359
opportunity to look outside samto County

996
00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:19,359
for some best practices so I'll give you

997
00:53:19,359 --> 00:53:21,280
an example for example the Google campus

998
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,280
in Mountain View there are hundreds of

999
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,520
bikers there every day there are

1000
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,720
pedestrians and there are cars so

1001
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:27,839
there's something right that they're

1002
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:30,920
doing so if we can like is is is is it

1003
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,400
within the scope of this plan to kind of

1004
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,960
learn from such Pockets um they can look

1005
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,960
at other agencies that have local

1006
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,040
roadway safety plans but not probably

1007
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,400
not private entities because the there's

1008
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:48,119
no statistics on crashes or uh speeding

1009
00:53:48,119 --> 00:53:49,760
tickets or anything like that on

1010
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,119
Google's campus for example come under

1011
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:54,160
Mountain View jurisdiction I would say

1012
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,480
right but they they don't collect that

1013
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,480
that data on private property um so any

1014
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,240
roadway that is within um a private

1015
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,000
property the information just does not

1016
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,839
get recorded in the system okay thank

1017
00:54:06,839 --> 00:54:09,559
you sure thank you okay we'd like to

1018
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:12,599
open it up to comments from the public

1019
00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:14,480
um if anyone is in the chambers would

1020
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,319
like to speak on this um if you could

1021
00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:18,440
fill out a speaker card bring it up I

1022
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,280
don't have any speaker cards at the

1023
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,960
moment but wanted to check in with

1024
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,480
Lynette um again if you're joining via

1025
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,240
zoom and would like to address the

1026
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,799
commission please raise your hand at

1027
00:54:29,799 --> 00:54:32,720
this time um we're going to keep that

1028
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,720
open for a minute or two um and then

1029
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:38,319
we'll close the opportunity for Zoom

1030
00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:42,640
folks to make comments so um right now

1031
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,680
um we'll begin taking public comments on

1032
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,640
zoom and then we'll close the queue is

1033
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,200
there anyone Lynette with their hand

1034
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,599
raised at this time yes we have one

1035
00:54:52,599 --> 00:54:55,839
Sonia okay great so um given that we

1036
00:54:55,839 --> 00:54:59,119
have no commenters in public in the in

1037
00:54:59,119 --> 00:55:01,920
person why don't we go ahead uh to Sonia

1038
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,079
then Sonia thank you for joining you've

1039
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,880
got two minutes thank you I really

1040
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,480
appreciate the uh planning

1041
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,720
Transportation Commission um hearing

1042
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,839
this and all that the work the city has

1043
00:55:13,839 --> 00:55:16,760
done to bring this to uh this project

1044
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,720
forward um in the interest of of

1045
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,039
protecting everyone who uses our

1046
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:25,000
roadways um I'm a oh my name is Sonia

1047
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,640
Elks I'm a safe to school and active

1048
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,760
Transportation safety Safe Streets

1049
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,520
advocate in St Carlos for a number of

1050
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,160
years and I just wanted to take this

1051
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:40,599
moment with on this topic to um let your

1052
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:43,599
the Commissioners and City staff who may

1053
00:55:43,599 --> 00:55:45,920
not know and any public who's listening

1054
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,599
um know that we uh host this in the

1055
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,400
conjunction with the week of the famili

1056
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,839
St Carlos bikes and uh Service Groups

1057
00:55:54,839 --> 00:55:56,520
and other many other organizations in

1058
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,920
this city we come together uh during

1059
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,280
week of the family and this we it's

1060
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,160
February 2nd for a road safety um

1061
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,000
bicycle pedestrian safety um event a

1062
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,799
family bike fair at Central Middle

1063
00:56:09,799 --> 00:56:12,880
School and we would love any CI any

1064
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,720
residents who are interested in this

1065
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:17,960
topic uh who want to help educate kids a

1066
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,039
lot of kids have ebikes now um anybody

1067
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:21,359
who wants to help educate and his

1068
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:23,680
passionate or interested in this topic

1069
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,960
um check out s Carlos bikes. org if I'm

1070
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,119
allowed to say that and um volunteer for

1071
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:32,799
this event to um increase because really

1072
00:56:32,799 --> 00:56:34,119
I think what it comes down to there can

1073
00:56:34,119 --> 00:56:36,640
do so much with signs and infrastructure

1074
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,079
but we also have to have people who know

1075
00:56:39,079 --> 00:56:41,520
the rules of the road especially kids

1076
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,319
who are riding on ebikes and and have

1077
00:56:43,319 --> 00:56:46,000
not taken their drivers tests yet and

1078
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,000
don't know all these rules of the road I

1079
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,039
think those are there's a big

1080
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:52,000
opportunity being missed there um so

1081
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,839
anybody who wants to participate in that

1082
00:56:53,839 --> 00:56:56,799
please please join us um and thank you

1083
00:56:56,799 --> 00:57:00,400
for taking my comment thank you Sonia

1084
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,319
thank you for calling in and just I

1085
00:57:03,319 --> 00:57:06,079
would note that Sonia's emphasis it um

1086
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,520
is tied to the plan because vulnerable

1087
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,599
age groups are one of the areas that we

1088
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:13,119
are trying to Target here in Stan Carlos

1089
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:14,440
so thank you for that

1090
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,920
Sonia um Lynette are there any other

1091
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,799
hands raised on

1092
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:22,200
Zoom none at the moment okay um we'll

1093
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,799
just give it another couple of

1094
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:28,319
seconds and no other speaker cards here

1095
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:30,630
in

1096
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,359
Chambers has uh any other hands raised

1097
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:36,680
on Zoom linet there are none okay with

1098
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,960
that we'll close the queue on zoom and

1099
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:46,240
um also I need a vote to close public

1100
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,960
comment I move that we close public

1101
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,520
comment thank you in a second I second

1102
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,240
that thank

1103
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,079
you on a roll call commissioner Bundy

1104
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:00,839
yes commissioner Anand yes commissioner

1105
00:58:00,839 --> 00:58:03,200
castanada yes Vice chair Garvey is

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00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,039
excused and chair Clemens yes thank you

1107
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:09,760
okay now we can go to the commissioner's

1108
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,440
comments and discussion um is any who

1109
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:14,559
would like to

1110
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:17,520
start we'll put it up commissioner cast

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00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,440
I'll

1112
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,359
start um thank you again for this great

1113
00:58:22,359 --> 00:58:25,280
presentation and I do understand that

1114
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,240
this is certainly to our advantage to be

1115
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,520
in this County plan particularly since

1116
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,400
it is also advisory and I think it's

1117
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,839
going to offer us a lot of access to

1118
00:58:36,839 --> 00:58:39,280
information and opportunities for

1119
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,280
funding I was particularly pleased to

1120
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,680
see that we will be able to get

1121
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,119
information about automated ve vehicles

1122
00:58:48,119 --> 00:58:51,039
uh from this uh particular by joining

1123
00:58:51,039 --> 00:58:54,960
this plan and um also that we'll be

1124
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,839
getting Cal

1125
00:58:56,839 --> 00:58:59,559
plans and updates which I think is is

1126
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:01,799
necessary thank

1127
00:59:01,799 --> 00:59:05,000
you thank you commissioner commissioner

1128
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Bundy thank you so much for the staff

1129
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,119
report I really value these Regional

1130
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:11,160
Frameworks I know it's not easy to pull

1131
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,240
together this many agencies including uh

1132
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,119
Caltrans and others and really

1133
00:59:16,119 --> 00:59:17,559
appreciate the time that both staff and

1134
00:59:17,559 --> 00:59:19,240
the Consulting team have put in to P

1135
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,920
this together um I thought that the

1136
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,680
number of fatalities and severe injuries

1137
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,280
that we've experienced in the last 5

1138
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,079
years was a really sobering statistic

1139
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:30,119
and really points to the importance of

1140
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:33,000
these types of efforts I thought the

1141
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,839
vision and goals were really

1142
00:59:34,839 --> 00:59:37,119
welldeveloped I appreciated San Carlos

1143
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,000
you know eliminating fatalities I

1144
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,680
thought that ours our goal was one that

1145
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,920
stood out as um being really aggressive

1146
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,119
and trying to eliminate the

1147
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,200
fatalities I thought the methodology was

1148
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,400
easy to understand and the

1149
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,240
prioritization process was really clear

1150
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,400
and appreciate that sort of transparency

1151
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,319
and identifying those projects and

1152
00:59:56,319 --> 00:59:58,400
pulling together the scoping and how

1153
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,240
Equity was pulled into the

1154
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,480
conversation um like you very proud that

1155
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,440
San Carlos had significant participation

1156
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,960
in the engagement process it really

1157
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,039
helps support the the findings of the

1158
01:00:08,039 --> 01:00:10,880
plan um I like the menu of engineering

1159
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,319
strategies I think that's a really good

1160
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:14,799
place to go to it's a a compendium that

1161
01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:16,680
we can be using as other projects come

1162
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,400
up and appreciated the the scoping of

1163
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,640
the two priority projects so um and

1164
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,640
finally I thought that the inclusion of

1165
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,520
the measures of success to really hold

1166
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,319
ourselves accountable to achieving those

1167
01:00:27,319 --> 01:00:29,359
goals is a really important part of the

1168
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:30,960
plan so I'm really supportive and

1169
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,240
appreciate all the work that you guys

1170
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,760
have done

1171
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,319
okay thank you commissioner

1172
01:00:37,319 --> 01:00:41,160
Anand yes um the timing of this plan I

1173
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,359
feel couldn't have been better uh we are

1174
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:44,960
emerging from the pandemic when people

1175
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,240
hardly ventured out and now we are kind

1176
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,720
of adjusting to a whole new lifestyle um

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01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,799
SOS is also a climate conscious City so

1178
01:00:51,799 --> 01:00:53,640
then we see like multi modes of

1179
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,599
transportation there's ebikes there's

1180
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,319
regular motorcycles there's cars

1181
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:01,240
self-driving cars as well so I'm I'm

1182
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,280
glad that we are creating a more

1183
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,880
inclusive Road Safety plan here um the

1184
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,839
other thing that makes me very hopeful

1185
01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:11,960
is that with the development of downtown

1186
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,280
where again we'll see some traffic

1187
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,400
shifts plus the new development on the

1188
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,319
east side with new businesses coming in

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01:01:17,319 --> 01:01:19,240
where we will expect more pedestrians

1190
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,760
and bike traffic we are undertaking this

1191
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,200
so thank you for for your comprehensive

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,559
report and for initiating this thank

1193
01:01:27,559 --> 01:01:30,520
you um my comments are similarly

1194
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,000
supportive uh I like that all the

1195
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,839
smaller jurisdictions are banding

1196
01:01:34,839 --> 01:01:37,880
together to do a regional approach that

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01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,200
has some consistency but I also really

1198
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,280
appreciate the jurisdiction specific

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,960
data that tells us what we need to focus

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,960
on and how we need to seek grant funding

1201
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,640
and and direct our own Capital

1202
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,559
Improvement dollars um with that I also

1203
01:01:53,559 --> 01:01:55,119
thought you know if there is a

1204
01:01:55,119 --> 01:01:58,640
jurisdiction that needs to focus on it

1205
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,079
well I was also dismayed at the high

1206
01:02:01,079 --> 01:02:03,119
number relative to our population of

1207
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:06,799
fatalities I was very surprised by that

1208
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:08,920
I think it was 32 you said over five

1209
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,200
years which you know we've got small

1210
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,520
Parcels we have some smaller roads

1211
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,200
there's a lot of different multimodal

1212
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,039
activity and so I'm heartened that we

1213
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:22,200
are spending resources and attention on

1214
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,319
how to make our community as safe as we

1215
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:28,640
can and I think that is also um you know

1216
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,240
part and parcel of how we grow we have

1217
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,319
ambitious housing Improvement or housing

1218
01:02:33,319 --> 01:02:35,839
increased goals and we have a lot of

1219
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:38,880
businesses anticipated um for growth and

1220
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,319
establishment um so I I think also as we

1221
01:02:43,319 --> 01:02:48,079
make um uh more areas more mix of uses I

1222
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:49,960
think the importance of how these uses

1223
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,440
work together and still result in a safe

1224
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,920
Community is of primary importance so um

1225
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,400
I uh fully support this effort and I'm

1226
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,680
glad that St Carlos is bending with

1227
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,599
others to do this work but getting our

1228
01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:05,279
work done and um seeing how we can um

1229
01:03:05,279 --> 01:03:07,079
access some grant funding to help with

1230
01:03:07,079 --> 01:03:10,440
that so thank you Ana thank you I think

1231
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,640
with that if we could put up great the

1232
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:17,710
motion someone would like to make the

1233
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,079
motion I move that the planning and

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01:03:20,079 --> 01:03:22,599
Transportation Commission adopt a

1235
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:25,400
resolution recommending the city council

1236
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,760
approve Pro the countywide and the City

1237
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,559
of St Carlos local roadway safety plan

1238
01:03:31,559 --> 01:03:34,520
and the accompanying Vision zero

1239
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,160
goals thank you and a second I second

1240
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,400
the motion great thank you a roll call

1241
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,319
please Andrea commissioner Bundy yes

1242
01:03:43,319 --> 01:03:45,559
commissioner Anand yes commissioner

1243
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:48,160
castanada yes Vice chair Garvey is

1244
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,359
excused and chair Clemens yes thank you

1245
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:58,870
thank you hania great work and good luck

1246
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,599
with that we are on to agenda item eight

1247
01:04:02,599 --> 01:04:05,160
a study session for the transportation

1248
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,240
demand management and parking reform

1249
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,920
project which has lots of interesting

1250
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,440
pieces to it so um looking forward to

1251
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,960
that and again just to be clear this is

1252
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,880
a study session and so our role here is

1253
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,000
to listen learn advise ask questions

1254
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,319
okay thank you um um and I'll turn it

1255
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:29,400
over to staff welcome great thank you

1256
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,559
good evening chair Clemens uh members of

1257
01:04:31,559 --> 01:04:32,839
the Planning Commission my name is

1258
01:04:32,839 --> 01:04:35,720
Rundle buos I am a senior planner in the

1259
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,520
advanced planning Division and here to

1260
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,599
provide um an introduction to the TDM

1261
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:44,440
and parking reform

1262
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,599
project so for an overview of tonight's

1263
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:50,359
agenda item South will start with a

1264
01:04:50,359 --> 01:04:52,960
brief introduction to the project team

1265
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,720
as well as the purpose of this effort

1266
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,880
will then receive a de more detailed

1267
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,160
presentation from our consultant team um

1268
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,640
on the topics of parking and TDM and

1269
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,319
we'll then respond to commissioner

1270
01:05:04,319 --> 01:05:06,319
questions as well as receive public

1271
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:09,079
comments followed by commissioner input

1272
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:10,920
and again as a study session no formal

1273
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,960
action is being requested this

1274
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,599
evening so to introduce the core team um

1275
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:20,400
involved in this project for City staff

1276
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,720
the project team includes a mix of

1277
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,279
advanced planning staff current planning

1278
01:05:25,279 --> 01:05:27,279
staff as well as public work staff

1279
01:05:27,279 --> 01:05:30,359
because TDM and parking overlap um these

1280
01:05:30,359 --> 01:05:32,359
multiple disciplines and we all play a

1281
01:05:32,359 --> 01:05:35,000
role in administering these requirements

1282
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,799
we're also joined by our technical e

1283
01:05:36,799 --> 01:05:38,680
experts which is our consultant team

1284
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,400
from W trans and Nelson niggard Brian

1285
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,160
canipa and Phil Olstead respectively and

1286
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,440
they will also be Pro uh providing their

1287
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,230
presentation on these

1288
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,760
topics so to provide the commission with

1289
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,000
some context and to kind of underscore

1290
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,359
the purpose of of this effort um this

1291
01:05:57,359 --> 01:06:00,520
effort began in June of this year with

1292
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,839
the purpose of reforming the city's

1293
01:06:02,839 --> 01:06:05,000
parking requirements and TDM

1294
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:06,400
requirements which is transportation

1295
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,960
demand management requirements as a

1296
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,480
response to various local and Regional

1297
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,960
Frameworks the first being the city

1298
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,279
council strategic goal as shown in this

1299
01:06:17,279 --> 01:06:19,160
slide which is a par which I'll

1300
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,520
paraphrase um generally has to do with

1301
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,200
actively pursuing strategies to improve

1302
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,440
mobility and reduce Reliance on single

1303
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,880
occupancy

1304
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,079
vehicles um there's also a series of

1305
01:06:30,079 --> 01:06:31,720
local planning documents that exist

1306
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,400
currently such as the general plan um

1307
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,279
and others that make reference to

1308
01:06:36,279 --> 01:06:38,559
improving mobility throughout the

1309
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:41,240
city and lastly which the city the

1310
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:43,480
consultant team rather will um speak to

1311
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,440
in Greater detail um there are a series

1312
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,880
of state and Regional policies and laws

1313
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,839
such as ap2 097 which restricts parking

1314
01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:55,720
requirements um the CAC TDM policy and

1315
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,960
mtc's to policy that have set a series

1316
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,640
of policies regarding parking and TDM

1317
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,920
that are um Regional and are causing

1318
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,839
various cities to proactively update

1319
01:07:05,839 --> 01:07:09,630
their parking and TDM

1320
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,079
requirements and as with any planning

1321
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:14,599
policy effort Civic engagement is

1322
01:07:14,599 --> 01:07:17,359
integral to this effort so given the

1323
01:07:17,359 --> 01:07:20,720
technical nature of parking and TDM um

1324
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,880
our Outreach is a bit more focused and

1325
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,960
engaged with folks who will Implement

1326
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,880
and interact with TDM and parking

1327
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,720
requirements but still to keep the

1328
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,799
general public engaged we're having the

1329
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:33,000
Planning Commission itself um serve as

1330
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,920
our technical advisory committee um and

1331
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,079
meet with the commission multiple times

1332
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:40,440
throughout this process to give the

1333
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,000
general public um as well as the

1334
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,880
commission multiple opportunities to

1335
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,480
speak on this

1336
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,240
item um in addition to the commission we

1337
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,799
plan on bringing this item to the city

1338
01:07:49,799 --> 01:07:52,240
council subcommittee um infrastructure

1339
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,680
Innovation and Improvement subcommittee

1340
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,920
and lastly terms of um various

1341
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,039
stakeholder groups the consultant team

1342
01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:01,559
has held focus group meetings um just

1343
01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:03,599
last week with um developers

1344
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:05,319
Transportation Advocates and

1345
01:08:05,319 --> 01:08:07,960
professionals as well as the gesc and

1346
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,440
large employers throughout the city and

1347
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,079
throughout the consultant presentation

1348
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:13,480
they'll be touching on some of the

1349
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,480
feedback that they've heard at the

1350
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:16,920
various

1351
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,199
meetings and with that I'll pass it to

1352
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:22,040
Brian canipa with W TR to discuss more

1353
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:27,630
about the project

1354
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,480
a little bit all right thank you Randall

1355
01:08:30,480 --> 01:08:32,239
uh chair Clemens members of the

1356
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:35,000
commission pleasure to have pleasure to

1357
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,040
be here this this evening with you I'll

1358
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,520
be talking about the parking piece of

1359
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:40,600
this so just a division of

1360
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,799
responsibilities for this project W

1361
01:08:42,799 --> 01:08:44,560
trans is really focusing on the parking

1362
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,359
piece with Nelson Ard focusing on the

1363
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:47,880
transportation demand management that's

1364
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,319
kind of our division of responsibilities

1365
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:52,480
and duties I will also note just uh

1366
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:54,560
before I dive into the presentation

1367
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,080
where we are in this proc process right

1368
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,480
now we are we have as you can see from

1369
01:08:58,480 --> 01:08:59,839
the schedule we've literally just

1370
01:08:59,839 --> 01:09:00,920
finished talking with some of the

1371
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,080
stakeholders very recently and we're in

1372
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,560
the process of completing our existing

1373
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,960
conditions review and uh best practices

1374
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,359
so we're really kind of in the initial

1375
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:11,480
stages here and which is why we want to

1376
01:09:11,480 --> 01:09:13,640
bring this to the commission to get your

1377
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,279
initial thoughts before we dive into

1378
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:18,159
developing framework and strategies so

1379
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:19,239
we haven't gotten to that yet that's

1380
01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:21,000
really why we're here this evening is to

1381
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,159
to go over these um issues with you and

1382
01:09:23,159 --> 01:09:24,679
see if there's particular areas that we

1383
01:09:24,679 --> 01:09:26,400
should should should not be focusing on

1384
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,279
as part of our

1385
01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:30,679
work so a little bit about the parking

1386
01:09:30,679 --> 01:09:33,799
piece of this so we are conducting a

1387
01:09:33,799 --> 01:09:36,799
really comprehensive review of the on

1388
01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:40,319
and off street parking policy and code I

1389
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,159
mean this is also inclusive any shared

1390
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:44,679
parking Provisions as well and we're at

1391
01:09:44,679 --> 01:09:46,279
throughout this process we're relying on

1392
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,839
best practices um primarily around here

1393
01:09:49,839 --> 01:09:53,239
in the Bay Area um and looking at

1394
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:54,400
understanding this in the current

1395
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,800
context of Carlos but also the future

1396
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,600
context given all the development growth

1397
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,120
as anticipated with the general plan

1398
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,360
through

1399
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,000
2045 we are also as part of this keeping

1400
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,640
in mind that this is not only an

1401
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,480
exercise in local policy but

1402
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:11,440
understanding Regional and state laws as

1403
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:14,840
well um I'll uh renle mentioned earlier

1404
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,199
the MTC Transit oriented communities

1405
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:19,600
policy for those of you who are not

1406
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,360
familiar with it on the parking side um

1407
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,800
it essentially provides certain maximum

1408
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,840
parking requ requirements that must be

1409
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,480
implemented in order for the city of

1410
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:31,400
Stan Carlos to be to remain eligible for

1411
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,480
one Bay Area Grant funds so if those

1412
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:36,840
criteria are not met as long as as a

1413
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,920
host of other ones then you lose your

1414
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,600
eligibility for those funds so something

1415
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,880
we need to keep in mind and I'll be

1416
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,400
coming back to that again the

1417
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,000
presentation um and also understanding

1418
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,679
that there are not only

1419
01:10:48,679 --> 01:10:51,360
a2097 but a whole host of other state

1420
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:53,080
laws that have impacted parking in

1421
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:54,760
recent years so not only the elimination

1422
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,320
of minimum parking requirements your

1423
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,239
transit station areas but the

1424
01:10:58,239 --> 01:11:00,920
daylighting law um

1425
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:04,520
a413 um shared parking law AB 894 all

1426
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,679
things that affect parking Supply within

1427
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:10,719
the city um and so we'll be keeping

1428
01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:14,000
those in mind as we as we develop our

1429
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,239
recommendations so again in the process

1430
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,239
here just to touch on this again we're

1431
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:20,000
just wrapping up the best practices and

1432
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:21,520
existing conditions we're bringing this

1433
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,080
to you right now after we receive your

1434
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,440
input we'll be kind of going back back

1435
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,040
to the drawing board at that point or

1436
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,920
starting the drawing board I should say

1437
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,400
and really diving into developing

1438
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,000
framework and strategies for these

1439
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,159
different elements with that I'll turn

1440
01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:36,080
it over to Phil

1441
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,400
elead we're gonna have to keep raising

1442
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:39,590
and lowering this

1443
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:41,000
[Laughter]

1444
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,520
yeah uh good evening chair and

1445
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760
commission members in San Carlos

1446
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,560
Community uh my name is Phil Olstead

1447
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,600
with Nelson nigar Consulting Associates

1448
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,000
and as Brian mentioned we'll be leading

1449
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,440
up the TDM portion of this work um as we

1450
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:56,880
work with I I'll start with a quick

1451
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,600
overview of why we're doing this with

1452
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,840
this effort um and what we're hoping to

1453
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,040
achieve um as we worked with staff to

1454
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,800
Define our scope a number of key goals

1455
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,080
uh and objectives consistently emerged

1456
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,239
one the existing TDM

1457
01:12:10,239 --> 01:12:13,440
ordinance and program needs a refresh a

1458
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:16,560
lot has changed within the community uh

1459
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,080
uh from a development and growth

1460
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,159
standpoint and what you all want to be

1461
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:22,560
as a city and as Brian mentioned as

1462
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,199
we'll discuss more a lot has changed on

1463
01:12:24,199 --> 01:12:26,840
the macro policy level uh in the region

1464
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,080
and in the State uh so we need to take a

1465
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,120
step back and uh update your TDM policy

1466
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:33,480
and approach so that is helping your

1467
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:35,600
community meet its larger Transportation

1468
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,280
goals and quality of life goals

1469
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,239
especially uh as you anticipate so much

1470
01:12:41,239 --> 01:12:44,800
future growth um uh and we need to be in

1471
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,639
lock step with the parking side so even

1472
01:12:46,639 --> 01:12:48,400
though we're we're both looking at two

1473
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,040
different things parking and TDM really

1474
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,040
go hand inand as I've said to staff many

1475
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,239
times before the best TDM policies and

1476
01:12:55,239 --> 01:12:58,080
programs are founded uh and anchored in

1477
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,400
good parking policy and good parking

1478
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,639
management uh let's see so on the TDM SI

1479
01:13:03,639 --> 01:13:05,360
what are we producing at the end of this

1480
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,600
project there are two key final TDM

1481
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,400
deliverables one is the actual TDM

1482
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,760
policy in the code so this is the

1483
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,440
straightforward the concise and precise

1484
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:18,400
language you will adopt to codify a new

1485
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,360
TDM policy and the second is what you

1486
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,480
know we're calling uh affectionately at

1487
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:24,800
this point is kind of the Playbook or

1488
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,239
implement mentation plan uh so this is

1489
01:13:27,239 --> 01:13:29,040
really the supporting information that

1490
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,719
developers or employers or institutions

1491
01:13:31,719 --> 01:13:34,440
property property managers and also your

1492
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:36,520
staff really need to implement the TDM

1493
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,760
policy I kind of think of it as the

1494
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,600
how-to

1495
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,159
guide uh much like Brian we are this is

1496
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:45,920
our basic process in where we're at now

1497
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:47,760
we've done some existing conditions work

1498
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:49,360
some best practices work and really

1499
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,440
checking in with you all to make sure

1500
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:53,840
that we've identified all the issues and

1501
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,199
opportunities uh with you all and our

1502
01:13:56,199 --> 01:13:59,120
next two phases are really developing

1503
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:01,440
the TDM policy framework its specific

1504
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:03,520
elements uh and then drafting those

1505
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,199
deliverables and of course anchored in

1506
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:07,080
all that or a through line through all

1507
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,520
that is the public engagement work uh

1508
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:10,800
and making sure that we're checking in

1509
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,719
with you all along the way uh and I'll

1510
01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:16,990
bounce it back to

1511
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,920
Brian all right apologies you'll see me

1512
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,840
and Phil jumping up and down during this

1513
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,159
presentation but before we dive into the

1514
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:26,639
of the Lessons Learned we did want to

1515
01:14:26,639 --> 01:14:28,360
put up these these questions for you

1516
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,159
first to kind of keep in mind and kind

1517
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:32,239
of percolate a little bit as we go

1518
01:14:32,239 --> 01:14:34,440
through the presentation um on the

1519
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:36,679
parking side really thinking closely as

1520
01:14:36,679 --> 01:14:38,360
we kind of move through

1521
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:42,199
this excuse me thinking about how our

1522
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:45,000
project can and should balance the needs

1523
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,120
of mtc's uh Toc policy and obag funding

1524
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,159
versus development of feasibility

1525
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:52,239
looking at managing on and off street

1526
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:55,040
parking for all uses um and shared par

1527
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:56,800
parking and on the TDM side really

1528
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,920
thinking through about you know what

1529
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,719
goals and metrics are really guiding

1530
01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:03,000
should be guiding this process and what

1531
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,440
measures you feel might be kind of best

1532
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:08,280
suited for our work and also keeping an

1533
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:11,000
eye on the end of the day about that

1534
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,480
Transportation demand management often

1535
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:16,000
requires monitoring and there is a

1536
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,960
certain judgment call there needed to

1537
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,520
determine the kind of the appropriate

1538
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,920
amount at the end of the

1539
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:25,040
day so we'll come back to these again so

1540
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,679
Lessons Learned so we'll focus first on

1541
01:15:26,679 --> 01:15:27,719
lessons learned from our kind of

1542
01:15:27,719 --> 01:15:29,960
internal existing conditions analysis so

1543
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:34,239
this is of San Carlos itself and excuse

1544
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:37,600
me um we kind of divided this up into

1545
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,360
sort of challenges and opportunities and

1546
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,400
again this is not an exhaustive list I'm

1547
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,440
sure there are others but these are some

1548
01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:46,080
of the key ones that we identified um

1549
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,840
the first of which being that we we're

1550
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,199
living in an interesting world right now

1551
01:15:50,199 --> 01:15:51,840
the past 10 15 years because there's

1552
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,199
this paradigm shift that's happened

1553
01:15:54,199 --> 01:15:55,440
right for most

1554
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:57,880
of the or good chunk of the 20th century

1555
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,480
you know minimum parking requirements

1556
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:02,280
more or less dictated how parking was

1557
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,719
constructed and how the transportation

1558
01:16:03,719 --> 01:16:07,120
system functioned and because of local

1559
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,520
and Regional and state changes it's

1560
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:11,639
really shifting from minimum parking

1561
01:16:11,639 --> 01:16:13,320
requirements to maximum parking

1562
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,480
requirements for very good reasons

1563
01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:17,360
because um of the impacts that minimum

1564
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:18,960
parking requirements have on housing

1565
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,719
affordability on sustainability on

1566
01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:23,480
equity and a whole host of other things

1567
01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:27,120
and so part of this is that with this

1568
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,760
shift away from minimums to maximums

1569
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:32,040
There's an opportunity to really look at

1570
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,199
it and say what does the market want to

1571
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:36,760
provide which is great it also is kind

1572
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,000
of challenging in a way because it or an

1573
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,639
opportunity I should say because it also

1574
01:16:40,639 --> 01:16:42,719
means that if we don't have parking

1575
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:45,280
minimums it puts a lot more importance

1576
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,280
on the public parking Supply right if

1577
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,600
there's if potentially there's no

1578
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,360
minimums being uh no minimum amount

1579
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,960
parking be created off Street What

1580
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,480
Becomes of the on street parking

1581
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:58,120
so that's the first the second has to do

1582
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:01,159
with this growth that we're anticipated

1583
01:17:01,159 --> 01:17:03,320
seeing again kind of going back to that

1584
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,760
Paradigm model you know traditionally

1585
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,760
developments have been looked at or

1586
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,120
viewed as kind of a one by one every

1587
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,320
parcel can't takes care tries to take

1588
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,960
care of its own transportation needs

1589
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:17,480
often times not very well and oftentimes

1590
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:20,199
very inefficiently um because we're not

1591
01:17:20,199 --> 01:17:22,960
pooling our resources as best we can and

1592
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,239
sometimes that can be difficult but need

1593
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:26,920
to keep it in mind so with the

1594
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,600
significant growth that we're seeing

1595
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,520
here in future years we can say with

1596
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,120
pretty good certainty that given the

1597
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,800
growth forecasts if the city of Stan

1598
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,120
Carlos were to develop using status quo

1599
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,480
policies and and regulations that you

1600
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:43,760
would have an immense amount of traffic

1601
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,800
for example right because it essentially

1602
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:48,320
kind of produces that sort of result and

1603
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,040
so part of what we want to be able to

1604
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,000
look at here are again solutions that

1605
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,120
can be implemented where feasible where

1606
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,719
maybe you treat things like looking at

1607
01:17:56,719 --> 01:17:58,360
parking districts or transportation

1608
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,040
management association the mtct policy

1609
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,880
actually allows for a parking District

1610
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,760
approach rather than individual parcels

1611
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,199
and this can lead to much greater

1612
01:18:08,199 --> 01:18:10,480
efficiencies at the end of the

1613
01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:13,280
day looking at private parking so this

1614
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,280
is not atypical but most cities in the

1615
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,199
US um your private parking is reserved

1616
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:22,040
for that particular use um that's great

1617
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:23,840
for the particular use but again it

1618
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:26,199
creates um um a lot of inefficiencies

1619
01:18:26,199 --> 01:18:27,760
because other people cannot use that

1620
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,760
parking at other hours um we know from

1621
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,520
our work in the downtown study that

1622
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,360
roughly 40% of the parking in the

1623
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,280
downtown is private um and which is a

1624
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,560
considerable amount when you think about

1625
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,440
at the end of the day and that just

1626
01:18:41,440 --> 01:18:43,920
poses challenges for for its

1627
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,000
utilization so what we want to be able

1628
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,840
to look at here is well what are what is

1629
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,719
the system what are the incentives for

1630
01:18:51,719 --> 01:18:54,800
creating more publicly accessible shared

1631
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,920
parking um and these can be it be

1632
01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,719
voluntary or it could be required um I

1633
01:18:59,719 --> 01:19:02,760
say both ways because most people are

1634
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:04,040
relatively familiar with voluntary

1635
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,320
assured parking agreements and those

1636
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,480
also can be facilitated by the city it

1637
01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:09,480
also could be required most people are

1638
01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:12,320
not aware of this but under AB 2097 the

1639
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,960
City by right has the power to require

1640
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,719
that any parking provided within a half

1641
01:19:17,719 --> 01:19:19,880
mile of these major Transit stops be

1642
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,719
publicly accessible some or all the time

1643
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:25,800
this provision I I believe is rarely

1644
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,600
utilized but I do want to make you aware

1645
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,199
of it and it's something that we want to

1646
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:32,080
keep in mind as we work through

1647
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,280
this um four has to do with employee and

1648
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,280
Resident permits um so right now really

1649
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,199
the only District uh within San Carlos

1650
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:42,960
that actively uses residential parking

1651
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,719
permits is greater East San Carlos um we

1652
01:19:45,719 --> 01:19:47,159
actually did have an opportunity to meet

1653
01:19:47,159 --> 01:19:49,719
with them uh the other day and it was

1654
01:19:49,719 --> 01:19:50,920
great we had a really robust

1655
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,440
conversation about kind of the pros and

1656
01:19:52,440 --> 01:19:53,920
cons of the system we were actually very

1657
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,840
encouraged to hear that the residential

1658
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,880
parking permit system seems to be

1659
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,800
relatively working well um for the most

1660
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,760
part I think there were some comments to

1661
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:05,320
say that there are areas for improvement

1662
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,960
like a local Brewery had moved in and

1663
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:08,400
there's maybe some people parking in the

1664
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,520
neighborhood during off hours things of

1665
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,760
that sort and so there's an opportunity

1666
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,840
here to look at not only as this how

1667
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,239
this permit Pro program applies here but

1668
01:20:19,239 --> 01:20:21,760
potentially elsewhere in St Carlos in

1669
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,840
terms of what makes a permit program

1670
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,080
successful how are they priced what's

1671
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,639
the availability of permits um you know

1672
01:20:28,639 --> 01:20:32,639
how does this change over time and so

1673
01:20:32,639 --> 01:20:34,639
forth um and the last challenge I'll

1674
01:20:34,639 --> 01:20:36,960
focus on is basically is really the

1675
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,360
process itself for parking management

1676
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,239
and this is kind of a little bit hard

1677
01:20:41,239 --> 01:20:42,360
sometimes for people to wrap their heads

1678
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,120
around but right now as happens in St

1679
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,760
Carlos as many cities in the US is that

1680
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,679
whenever parking management changes are

1681
01:20:49,679 --> 01:20:51,760
proposed or needed often times they have

1682
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,800
to go to council for approval every

1683
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,840
single change needs to go through

1684
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,840
Council for approval and often times

1685
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,120
this process leads to parking being

1686
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,440
somewhat of a political football rather

1687
01:21:03,440 --> 01:21:06,920
than an actual technical topic um and

1688
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,679
one of the PO potential opportunities

1689
01:21:08,679 --> 01:21:11,360
from this is really to shift to A system

1690
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:15,760
that is not a caseby casee basis for for

1691
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,120
Council but one which is really directed

1692
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,639
by Council desired outcomes so the

1693
01:21:20,639 --> 01:21:22,480
council and you as Commissioners would

1694
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:24,239
say these are the outcomes we're really

1695
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:26,360
aiming for here are kind of the limits

1696
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:28,080
we want to set to this so you can work

1697
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,880
within these bumpers so we're nice and

1698
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:32,280
safe and then allowing staff the

1699
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,320
flexibility to make changes over time

1700
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,400
without continually having to come back

1701
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,280
when we've seen that it's often a really

1702
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:41,520
great successful model used by other

1703
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,320
communities and with that I'll turn it

1704
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,679
back over to Phil and raise the mic

1705
01:21:46,679 --> 01:21:49,080
right we've also been doing a lot of

1706
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,600
existing conditions work um we won't go

1707
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,600
into all the details but a few kind of

1708
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,280
key trends and challenges have emerged

1709
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,120
um much like Brian said the regulatory

1710
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,760
or the state and Regional policy around

1711
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,560
TDM has changed so for example CAG

1712
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:05,719
adopted their new TDM requirements or

1713
01:22:05,719 --> 01:22:08,440
updated their requirements in 2022 the

1714
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:12,360
TOC policy also priori prioritizes TDM

1715
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,880
strategies near

1716
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,880
Transit you all are very close I believe

1717
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,760
to adopting new Transportation study

1718
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,639
guidelines that really elevates TDM as a

1719
01:22:21,639 --> 01:22:24,239
key mitigation element for for projects

1720
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:27,560
and as part of that process alas your

1721
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:30,560
TDM policy uh is out of date and not

1722
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,159
fully in line with with some of that

1723
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:34,000
local and Regional work so that's a

1724
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:35,920
challenge but it's also a great

1725
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,320
opportunity um those local and Regional

1726
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,120
efforts really give you an opportunity

1727
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:41,639
and and really serve as a catalyst to

1728
01:22:41,639 --> 01:22:43,719
redefine what you want from your TDM

1729
01:22:43,719 --> 01:22:45,679
policy again in light of the new growth

1730
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:48,750
that you're

1731
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,679
anticipating um within that context when

1732
01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:53,800
we look at your current code it's it's

1733
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,040
not fully with those policies and what

1734
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:58,480
we would see as best practice so the

1735
01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:01,280
required trip reduction is below

1736
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:03,400
Regional standards it's really a

1737
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:06,679
one-size fits-all policy it's of 20%

1738
01:23:06,679 --> 01:23:08,639
regardless of project size or where you

1739
01:23:08,639 --> 01:23:11,800
are in the city uh doesn't really

1740
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,040
comprehensively speak to your

1741
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,000
transportation Vision or Mobility

1742
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,280
approach and services or or even parking

1743
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:18,400
policy and

1744
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,320
management uh on the positive uh again

1745
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,040
this project is really an opportunity to

1746
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,520
be more proactive more robust more

1747
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,000
flexible uh we can give developers and

1748
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,560
employees more CH employers more Choice

1749
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,239
with the with the policy but also make

1750
01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:34,800
sure that what they decide to implement

1751
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,960
will work it's not just a check the box

1752
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,480
exercise uh and be appropriate for the

1753
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:44,870
project type and location within your

1754
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,760
community uh having a strong robust and

1755
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:51,880
impactful TDM policy and program is hard

1756
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,679
um many cities do the policy well uh but

1757
01:23:54,679 --> 01:23:57,520
implementation and uh and but you know

1758
01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,080
struggle with the implementation and

1759
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,560
consistent follow-through if we don't

1760
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,960
measure um the TDM efforts we don't know

1761
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:06,760
if it's working and the best TDM

1762
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,199
programs are living efforts uh they need

1763
01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:11,159
constant monitoring and adjustment over

1764
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:13,639
time uh that's easier said than done it

1765
01:24:13,639 --> 01:24:15,719
takes time and effort uh one of the

1766
01:24:15,719 --> 01:24:17,239
things we're really digging in with on

1767
01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:18,920
staff is to really understand and find

1768
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:20,960
out more about the specific process that

1769
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,520
your TDM plans go through what staff do

1770
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,040
what what information is most impactful

1771
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,080
for you as Commissioners or Council to

1772
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,679
really understand if the plan will work

1773
01:24:31,679 --> 01:24:33,239
um and where what are the specific

1774
01:24:33,239 --> 01:24:36,639
barriers after the plan is approved to

1775
01:24:36,639 --> 01:24:39,159
successful implementation so as we go

1776
01:24:39,159 --> 01:24:40,480
through the project we're really going

1777
01:24:40,480 --> 01:24:42,520
to explore with staff and you all you

1778
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,280
know are there new processes that we can

1779
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:45,960
try are there new tools that are

1780
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,800
available that can really streamline

1781
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:50,199
that and make that more effective um but

1782
01:24:50,199 --> 01:24:52,480
it will uh eventually come down to

1783
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:54,800
resources the best municipal TDM

1784
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,600
programs and policies are well resourced

1785
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,719
um and often have dedicated staff

1786
01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:03,600
directly uh allocated to TDM

1787
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,280
work uh again requiring TDM is the easy

1788
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,560
part implementing it for the user in an

1789
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,920
effective way is really hard a key

1790
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,159
challenge here like many communities in

1791
01:25:14,159 --> 01:25:16,280
the pen on the peninsula is that many of

1792
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,880
the TDM strategies that reduce Drive

1793
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,960
alone trips or encourage multimodal

1794
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,040
travel um are on the shoulder of lots of

1795
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,239
different entities from the developer to

1796
01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:30,440
the employer to the property manager to

1797
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:33,199
Regional agencies uh and sometimes the

1798
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:35,960
city uh this can be confusing it often

1799
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,119
leads to ad hoc implementation I think

1800
01:25:39,119 --> 01:25:41,119
the last thing you want as a

1801
01:25:41,119 --> 01:25:43,679
community uh is each project or

1802
01:25:43,679 --> 01:25:47,280
developer or project uh project um

1803
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,280
property manager or District doing their

1804
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,080
own thing uh doing their own shuttle

1805
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,880
service or own Bike Share or own TD TMA

1806
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:55,840
we need

1807
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:57,960
coordination um so now it's the time

1808
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,639
this is a great again another

1809
01:25:59,639 --> 01:26:01,560
opportunity for this project to really

1810
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,360
work with all these folks to Define who

1811
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,520
does what where and

1812
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,000
when uh we did get our hands on and

1813
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,719
staff shared with us about 30 TDM plans

1814
01:26:11,719 --> 01:26:13,920
that have been approved in the last 10

1815
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,600
years or so we reviewed them we mapped

1816
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,800
them so this is a map the the gray

1817
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,159
polygons or are the footprints of those

1818
01:26:21,159 --> 01:26:23,760
TDM plans uh and then where they're

1819
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,320
located almost all are within um a

1820
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,119
couple Transit zones so the transit

1821
01:26:29,119 --> 01:26:31,000
priority areas for

1822
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:35,400
CAG the TC areas for MTC and then a lot

1823
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,360
of them fall within one of these key

1824
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:41,000
planning areas uh within your city so

1825
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,199
the key is how we calibrate again I

1826
01:26:43,199 --> 01:26:45,679
mentioned one size fits all right now

1827
01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:48,480
how do we calibrate the TDM policy for

1828
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:50,520
these different locations and different

1829
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,760
project types without getting in the

1830
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:57,229
Trap of being overly precise or false

1831
01:26:57,239 --> 01:26:59,520
Precision um I don't want you to squint

1832
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:01,560
too hard at this what we're showing here

1833
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,199
is these are all the different

1834
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:06,440
strategies listed in your TDM plans and

1835
01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:09,000
what share of projects included them so

1836
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,719
it's a lot of different things so the Y

1837
01:27:11,719 --> 01:27:13,440
AIS shows kind of what percent of

1838
01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:15,840
projects included this specific TDM

1839
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,679
measure I think there's two key points

1840
01:27:18,679 --> 01:27:21,520
to highlight not all of the ones

1841
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,320
commonly included are always the most

1842
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:27,040
impactful at reducing vehicle trips and

1843
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,119
some of the ones that are most impactful

1844
01:27:29,119 --> 01:27:32,159
are often not included um second the

1845
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:34,679
current monitoring process um doesn't

1846
01:27:34,679 --> 01:27:37,239
really allow staff to really see the

1847
01:27:37,239 --> 01:27:39,360
implementation details on a lot of these

1848
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,880
strategies and how they're actually

1849
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,000
coming to fruition so what does the

1850
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,800
website look like what is the TDM

1851
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,239
coordinator actually doing how many

1852
01:27:47,239 --> 01:27:50,000
subsidized Transit passes went out um so

1853
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,920
it's it's a challenge with the with the

1854
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,320
current program

1855
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,560
uh implementation also falls to a lot of

1856
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,600
different froes as again these are what

1857
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,560
was stated in the TDM plans and how

1858
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:03,320
they're being implemented so on the left

1859
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:05,400
who's implementing them and it's a lot

1860
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,600
of different folks and then on the right

1861
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:11,280
you know how they're being monitored um

1862
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,400
as you know a lot of them list an annual

1863
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:16,840
report trip counts travel surveys uh but

1864
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,360
you know right now staff don't really

1865
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,320
have a cost-effective way or a system of

1866
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:24,360
tools or platforms to track this down

1867
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,440
I'll kick it back to Brian and we'll go

1868
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:28,400
through some of the best practices and

1869
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,440
what other communities are doing um to

1870
01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:37,030
kind of uh Benchmark where youall are

1871
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:40,360
at all right so moving on from s caros

1872
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,000
to our best practices um mostly here in

1873
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:47,159
the Bay Area but again some that are not

1874
01:28:47,159 --> 01:28:48,760
um and the way we did this with we

1875
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,119
looked at various communities and we

1876
01:28:50,119 --> 01:28:51,679
looked at it in terms of specific how

1877
01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:54,239
they deal with specific topics there

1878
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:56,400
related to parking or Transportation man

1879
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,000
management so for example for parking

1880
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,840
maximums looking excuse me looking at

1881
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,280
these communities from Alama Redwood

1882
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,239
City San Bruno and Sacramento Sacramento

1883
01:29:07,239 --> 01:29:09,080
tends to be a larger example but we'

1884
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,239
included them for very specific reasons

1885
01:29:11,239 --> 01:29:13,520
because certain um management techniques

1886
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,040
they have a considerable amount of

1887
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,400
experience there but what we found

1888
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,719
looking at parking maximums is you know

1889
01:29:19,719 --> 01:29:22,000
this is again is nothing new many

1890
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,719
communities have had parking maximums

1891
01:29:23,719 --> 01:29:27,679
for quite a while um and they vary a bit

1892
01:29:27,679 --> 01:29:29,320
you know you can see from the examples

1893
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:31,320
here that for residential it can be one

1894
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,840
to one and a half spaces per unit you

1895
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,159
know in Alama you could have

1896
01:29:35,159 --> 01:29:37,199
non-residential anywhere from 2 and a

1897
01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:40,199
half to 7 per thousand so you have a lot

1898
01:29:40,199 --> 01:29:44,440
of of variation in there um you know we

1899
01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:46,400
at w trans and Nelson Ard are actually

1900
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:47,840
jointly working on a project in the city

1901
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,600
of Sacramento right now I'll be there on

1902
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:51,119
Thursday because we're completely

1903
01:29:51,119 --> 01:29:52,840
revamping their parking code for the

1904
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,119
whole city um and we've worked we were

1905
01:29:56,119 --> 01:29:58,000
able to use a lot of their development

1906
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,560
data we also worked with staff here to

1907
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,480
look at development data here to

1908
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:04,440
determine how much parking entitled

1909
01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:06,719
projects are actually providing and we

1910
01:30:06,719 --> 01:30:08,440
know from at least the areas in

1911
01:30:08,440 --> 01:30:10,719
Sacramento that have had maximum parking

1912
01:30:10,719 --> 01:30:12,760
requirements the vast majority of

1913
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:14,320
projects that have been built and

1914
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,719
entitled actually do so underneath the

1915
01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:18,239
maximum they don't even go to the

1916
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:20,360
maximum now again that can vary from

1917
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,159
Project to project um but it's an

1918
01:30:23,159 --> 01:30:24,480
interesting data point

1919
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:26,840
nonetheless but we did find in talking

1920
01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:28,040
one of our stakeholder groups that we

1921
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,000
did talk with were developers we said

1922
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:31,960
gosh you know what what do you see here

1923
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,639
in St Carlos as being you know

1924
01:30:33,639 --> 01:30:36,239
constraining or not and again not

1925
01:30:36,239 --> 01:30:37,320
surprisingly what we heard from the

1926
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:38,840
development Community was we want to be

1927
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,960
able to build what we want to build to

1928
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:42,239
whatever the market demand is whatever

1929
01:30:42,239 --> 01:30:45,560
we feel that market demand is and so

1930
01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,679
part of what we want to look at as part

1931
01:30:47,679 --> 01:30:48,920
of this process and of course we would

1932
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,920
need to confirm this as part of the MTC

1933
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:54,080
policy is is there a flexibility that

1934
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:56,119
can build into those maximums and still

1935
01:30:56,119 --> 01:30:58,840
be in compliance with the TOC policy so

1936
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,679
for example in Alam they allow that

1937
01:31:01,679 --> 01:31:03,600
maximum to be exceeded with a certain

1938
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:05,760
permit we're proposing the same thing in

1939
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,280
Sacramento as well so long as some

1940
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:11,440
Community benefit is provided um in

1941
01:31:11,440 --> 01:31:13,199
Sacramento the cas is you can exceed

1942
01:31:13,199 --> 01:31:15,159
that maximum if those spaces are the

1943
01:31:15,159 --> 01:31:17,760
maximum are publicly accessible right so

1944
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:19,639
there's something given in

1945
01:31:19,639 --> 01:31:21,520
return um the second thing that we

1946
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,480
looked at was car sharing this is

1947
01:31:23,480 --> 01:31:25,360
something that that has been had kind of

1948
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,800
a varying degrees of success over the

1949
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,199
years um several codes for a while were

1950
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:32,960
requiring car share spaces in different

1951
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:36,000
developments um it's car sharing as we

1952
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,920
found is very difficult to make it work

1953
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,560
in pencil financially um so

1954
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:41,960
incorporating those same sort of

1955
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:43,639
stringent standards that occurred in

1956
01:31:43,639 --> 01:31:46,600
some codes before might not necessarily

1957
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,679
be in the best interest here you want to

1958
01:31:48,679 --> 01:31:50,320
be able to encourage car sharing and we

1959
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:51,880
found good ways to do that like in on

1960
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:54,679
Street spaces but trying to incorporate

1961
01:31:54,679 --> 01:31:56,840
requirements into a city code or use the

1962
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,119
provisions with an a2097 may not be

1963
01:31:59,119 --> 01:32:02,360
necessarily the best Avenue for

1964
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,520
it looking at residential permits um now

1965
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,440
you can see we've kind added Palo Alta

1966
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:09,239
to the fifth the fifth list here um

1967
01:32:09,239 --> 01:32:11,360
because they've had an RPP program in

1968
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:14,880
place for quite a while um RPP programs

1969
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,600
again very significantly across the

1970
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:18,840
country and within the state about how

1971
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,400
they're implemented they could be very

1972
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,679
strong or not one of the more common

1973
01:32:22,679 --> 01:32:24,639
problems that these cas studies some of

1974
01:32:24,639 --> 01:32:27,239
these case studies have encountered is

1975
01:32:27,239 --> 01:32:29,000
that they don't necessarily match the

1976
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,040
number or pricing of permits to the

1977
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,520
actual demand in the area if you give

1978
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:36,560
away unlimited permits for example that

1979
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,000
are free it's not surprising that there

1980
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:40,840
might not be enough spaces on Street to

1981
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,000
be able to accommodate demand you've

1982
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:43,960
given out free pizza to everyone and so

1983
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:47,239
everyone wants it um so some of the best

1984
01:32:47,239 --> 01:32:48,960
examples that we've seen in other

1985
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,119
communities is for example limiting the

1986
01:32:51,119 --> 01:32:52,679
number of permits per household

1987
01:32:52,679 --> 01:32:55,040
depending on how many spaces you have on

1988
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:58,000
street or how many households Etc um and

1989
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,719
being able to often times price it

1990
01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:03,080
accordingly um such that maybe if you're

1991
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,520
going to have multiple uh permits

1992
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,320
available maybe it's on a scaled

1993
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:08,840
approach so that if you want to park all

1994
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,960
four cars on Street maybe that costs

1995
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,760
more than if you want to park one or

1996
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,119
two um but at the end of the day we want

1997
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:18,040
to be cognizant of this over permitting

1998
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,600
that's really the key issue here often

1999
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,960
times looking at on street parking

2000
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:24,880
pricing on on street parking pricing

2001
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,840
obviously doesn't currently exist here

2002
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,000
in Stan Carlos but it is one of the most

2003
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,320
effective ways to be able to manage um

2004
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,159
on street parking demand particularly in

2005
01:33:33,159 --> 01:33:34,600
obviously in commercial

2006
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:37,360
areas um other communities have had this

2007
01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:39,760
in place for years and have done it

2008
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:41,280
successfully so Redwood City would

2009
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,360
probably be the most commonly known

2010
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,080
example here um where not only did they

2011
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,400
establish a system of pricing but they

2012
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,600
actually Managed IT in such a way to set

2013
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,960
it towards a specific Target Donald chup

2014
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,040
oftentimes known as kind of the guru of

2015
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,280
parking parking reform you know has

2016
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,760
helped identify this 85% occupancy

2017
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,080
threshold where it's like the ideal set

2018
01:34:04,080 --> 01:34:06,320
you you set your prices to um reach a

2019
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,880
certain occupancy on street so it's not

2020
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,880
too hot not too cold what we've seen in

2021
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,360
programs and pricing programs that have

2022
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:15,000
failed in other communities is when

2023
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,480
they've tried to make pricing about

2024
01:34:16,480 --> 01:34:18,960
Revenue rather than about actual

2025
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,880
management of parking um and so hence

2026
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,679
theot rightful skepticism uh of parking

2027
01:34:24,679 --> 01:34:26,840
pricing as a practice because it's often

2028
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,800
uh been misused in the past other places

2029
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:32,320
I will note like in Palo Alto try to get

2030
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,880
around this problem in other ways we're

2031
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,920
currently working with the city of

2032
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,000
paloalto right now um and you know they

2033
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,199
if you're familiar with their program

2034
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:41,760
they have kind of these colored zones

2035
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,320
within the downtown and you can kind of

2036
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,119
move from one zone to another so long as

2037
01:34:45,119 --> 01:34:46,760
you stay a certain amount of time but

2038
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,719
you can stay all day if you pay

2039
01:34:48,719 --> 01:34:52,560
$15 um it creates a lot of issues it

2040
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,760
basically it's a recipe for shuffling um

2041
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,280
and what I mean by shuffling is you

2042
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:57,719
almost have an active incentive to

2043
01:34:57,719 --> 01:34:59,360
basically keep moving your car every 2

2044
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,880
to 3 hours so you know from these

2045
01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:04,119
examples we can kind of see the the pros

2046
01:35:04,119 --> 01:35:06,119
and cons of the of these

2047
01:35:06,119 --> 01:35:08,520
models and lastly looking at bicycle

2048
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,400
parking I should note this is not just

2049
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,199
about Vehicles as in cars and vans and

2050
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:15,639
trucks but it's also about bicycles um

2051
01:35:15,639 --> 01:35:18,239
and that almost every modern code these

2052
01:35:18,239 --> 01:35:20,760
days has really robust bicycle parking

2053
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,880
requirements built into it for new

2054
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,800
developments that are coming online and

2055
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,119
those pertain to both long-term and

2056
01:35:27,119 --> 01:35:29,840
short-term bicycle parking but they go

2057
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,040
beyond that now often times going into

2058
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,719
design standards right going into the

2059
01:35:34,719 --> 01:35:38,000
varing different types of two- wheeled

2060
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,119
vehicles that are available it's not

2061
01:35:40,119 --> 01:35:41,960
simply just a bicycle anymore it's a

2062
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:43,880
cargo bike it's an ebike it might be a

2063
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:46,639
micr Mobility device um you might have

2064
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:49,000
design standards that are specifically

2065
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,440
designed because you might not be able

2066
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:54,000
to reach up on a wall and be able to

2067
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:55,920
pull down a bicycle if it's hanging

2068
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,320
vertically so things of this nature that

2069
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:00,360
we want to be able to incorporate and

2070
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:02,719
have been done in other

2071
01:36:02,719 --> 01:36:04,480
communities and with that I'll turn it

2072
01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:06,719
back over to

2073
01:36:06,719 --> 01:36:09,159
Phil all right I promise we're almost

2074
01:36:09,159 --> 01:36:12,480
done drink from the fireos here um so

2075
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:14,159
yeah we also did a scan of best

2076
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:16,199
practices around uh what other

2077
01:36:16,199 --> 01:36:17,920
communities are doing with their TDM

2078
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,639
Frameworks we looked at four key or five

2079
01:36:20,639 --> 01:36:22,800
core areas uh first was how is the

2080
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:24,239
program structured

2081
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:26,520
is it simply an ordinance or Does it

2082
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,360
include a set of complimentary

2083
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,719
guidelines uh kind of a how-to

2084
01:36:30,719 --> 01:36:34,400
guide second was whoops second was

2085
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,199
applicability what projects uh and land

2086
01:36:37,199 --> 01:36:39,560
uses are subject to the policy versus

2087
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:42,679
exempt uh do the do the policies vary by

2088
01:36:42,679 --> 01:36:46,320
type or location such as proximity to

2089
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,520
Transit uh what are the specific uh

2090
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,280
third was what are the specific targets

2091
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,280
what strategies or items are required

2092
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,639
versus optional

2093
01:36:54,639 --> 01:36:56,880
fourth is what are the metrics for

2094
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:58,800
success and how is monitoring done and

2095
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:01,320
by whom and finally what is the

2096
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,719
compliance and enforcement process we

2097
01:37:04,719 --> 01:37:07,880
looked mostly also at areas uh in your

2098
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,840
region and uh as well as one National

2099
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,360
example I think it represents an

2100
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,600
interesting approach with some

2101
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:14,679
long-standing

2102
01:37:14,679 --> 01:37:16,880
results uh and I'll highlight a few

2103
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:20,560
theme a key themes across these uh uh

2104
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,639
cities one of the trends we're seeing uh

2105
01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:24,239
in terms of structure

2106
01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:26,159
is a clear concise ordinance

2107
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:28,760
complemented by a set of guidelines that

2108
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,320
are Standalone uh the guidelines really

2109
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,520
allow cities to provide more detail

2110
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:36,400
again it's that implementation how to uh

2111
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,760
for the developer employers employers

2112
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,679
property managers and staff and one of

2113
01:37:40,679 --> 01:37:42,480
the key benefits of that is it's easier

2114
01:37:42,480 --> 01:37:45,080
to update over time if your strategies

2115
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,880
change or targets change or methods

2116
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,040
change you don't have to go back and

2117
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:51,040
update the ordinance every

2118
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,960
time uh second is a pla

2119
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,920
applicability U most cities tier their

2120
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:59,360
requirements recognizing that projects

2121
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:03,159
of certain land uses sizes or locations

2122
01:38:03,159 --> 01:38:05,159
have greater potential to generate more

2123
01:38:05,159 --> 01:38:08,159
vehicle trips and therefore uh likely

2124
01:38:08,159 --> 01:38:10,080
need to do more to mitigate those trips

2125
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,679
so for example South San Francisco has

2126
01:38:12,679 --> 01:38:15,679
four tiers uh the highest tier being

2127
01:38:15,679 --> 01:38:18,920
office and R&D development above 400,000

2128
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,920
ft they're subject to the highest TDM

2129
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,960
requirements many es also allow for

2130
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:27,840
exemptions so for example Brisbane has

2131
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,320
Exempted 100% affordable housing

2132
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,199
projects multif family projects uh

2133
01:38:33,199 --> 01:38:35,119
multif family residential projects less

2134
01:38:35,119 --> 01:38:37,520
than 20 units and single family

2135
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,920
residential projects less than 10

2136
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,920
units more and more TDM policies set a

2137
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,000
Target threshold of trip reduction so

2138
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,280
for yall right now it's that 20% one

2139
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,840
siiz fits all um that can be again

2140
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:52,320
tiered by or uh calibrated by the

2141
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:53,920
specific tiers but of often it's a

2142
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,040
percent reduction or a point

2143
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,639
threshold um South San Francisco again

2144
01:38:58,639 --> 01:39:00,760
for example has a point target ranging

2145
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:04,040
from 20 to 50 depending on what tier

2146
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,560
your project falls into and then

2147
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,639
projects can pick from a menu of

2148
01:39:08,639 --> 01:39:11,800
strategies that have assigned Point

2149
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,719
values uh representative of their

2150
01:39:14,719 --> 01:39:17,800
ability to reduce trips so things that

2151
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,800
reduce vehicle trips more have higher

2152
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,920
Point values thus you want to pick more

2153
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,080
impact trip production strategies worth

2154
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,280
more points um and this really allows

2155
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,960
for flexibility for developers who don't

2156
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,320
want to be mandated to do one specific

2157
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,320
thing um but they can pick and choose

2158
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:37,239
the strategies for their potential

2159
01:39:37,239 --> 01:39:39,440
tenants um but they can't just say oh

2160
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:42,440
we'll put in you know a kiosk and some

2161
01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:44,360
bike parking and call it a day right

2162
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,440
there's some meat um and there's some

2163
01:39:46,440 --> 01:39:48,599
meat on the bones of of the of the

2164
01:39:48,599 --> 01:39:50,320
actual

2165
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:53,840
plan uh mon the monitoring requirements

2166
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,560
vary some are self-report by the

2167
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,840
developer or property owner or employer

2168
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,719
but some are more stringent and often

2169
01:40:02,719 --> 01:40:05,639
have staff-led efforts um the methods

2170
01:40:05,639 --> 01:40:09,360
also vary uh some are mode split travel

2171
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:12,880
mode surveys of tenants or employees uh

2172
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:14,400
sometimes we do driveway counts seeing

2173
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:15,880
how many vehicles are coming in and out

2174
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,639
of a driveway um and often there's an

2175
01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:21,000
annual reporting process uh aligned with

2176
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,840
that a key point I think to drive home

2177
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,360
on the monitoring front is that it does

2178
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,280
take a lot of time um and it's costly

2179
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,639
and the best programs really strike a

2180
01:40:30,639 --> 01:40:33,119
balance between getting lots of data

2181
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:35,040
important information about how the plan

2182
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:37,119
is performing but also recognizing that

2183
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:38,960
it is a resource allocation challenge

2184
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,400
whether it's for uh being overly

2185
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,000
burdensome on the property owner or

2186
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,800
employer or your own staff and finally

2187
01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,920
uh what happens in these cities if you

2188
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:52,880
aren't doing what you said you would do

2189
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,040
uh

2190
01:40:54,040 --> 01:40:56,719
most cities really try and find a kind

2191
01:40:56,719 --> 01:40:58,960
of a balance between having teeth and

2192
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,679
being overly punitive um really

2193
01:41:02,679 --> 01:41:04,000
ultimately defaulting to be a

2194
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,920
collaborative partner often we we kind

2195
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:07,639
of call it a three strikes model you

2196
01:41:07,639 --> 01:41:09,440
know hey you're not doing well you're

2197
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:10,840
not doing what you said you do what can

2198
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,679
we work with you to update your plan hey

2199
01:41:13,679 --> 01:41:15,400
you're still not doing well what can we

2200
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,679
do and then kind of The Last Resort is

2201
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:19,920
is many cities have Financial penalties

2202
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:22,840
and those can scale um based on size or

2203
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:24,480
how far away you are from hitting your

2204
01:41:24,480 --> 01:41:27,239
target those types of things so I think

2205
01:41:27,239 --> 01:41:29,480
that's I think that's our presentation

2206
01:41:29,480 --> 01:41:32,960
we threw a ton of stuff at you I realize

2207
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,840
um here is our questions again um

2208
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,440
seeking your feedback on other

2209
01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:39,719
challenges and opportunities any

2210
01:41:39,719 --> 01:41:41,960
questions you had on best practices or

2211
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,159
where we might look a little bit more

2212
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:46,119
and then as Brian went through earlier

2213
01:41:46,119 --> 01:41:49,080
um we threw out some questions and ideas

2214
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:50,840
um of where we're looking feedback but

2215
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:53,360
certainly open to a good conversation

2216
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:54,800
with

2217
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,880
yall oh sorry and rendle is going to

2218
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:02,030
close us out just

2219
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,560
one thank you Brian and thank you Phil

2220
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:07,280
one more slide just to bring our

2221
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,560
presentation to a close just some um

2222
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,320
next steps are listed here which that

2223
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,440
we'll receive your feedback this evening

2224
01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:14,760
and then following this meeting the

2225
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:16,480
consultant team will then start to

2226
01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:19,760
develop actual reforms um in response to

2227
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,280
your feedback and our stakeholder

2228
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,480
feedback um with the intent of BR this

2229
01:42:23,480 --> 01:42:25,679
item back for additional feedback um in

2230
01:42:25,679 --> 01:42:27,800
L later on in

2231
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,080
2025 and lastly just for the benefit of

2232
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,119
the public some ways to provide input

2233
01:42:32,119 --> 01:42:35,239
throughout this project um the project

2234
01:42:35,239 --> 01:42:37,560
website's listed here with staff contact

2235
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:39,320
information on the site as well as the

2236
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,360
email listed here so this concludes

2237
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:43,480
staff's presentation and the

2238
01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:45,719
consultant's presentation happy to take

2239
01:42:45,719 --> 01:42:48,830
questions thank

2240
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,599
you thank you that was really really

2241
01:42:52,599 --> 01:42:54,440
interesting for anyone who doesn't know

2242
01:42:54,440 --> 01:42:57,199
if parking or Transportation demand

2243
01:42:57,199 --> 01:42:59,719
management is interesting it that was

2244
01:42:59,719 --> 01:43:01,679
crazy interesting

2245
01:43:01,679 --> 01:43:06,080
um I took a lot of notes so um yeah I

2246
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:07,639
just wanted to open it up to

2247
01:43:07,639 --> 01:43:11,239
Commissioners um with comments questions

2248
01:43:11,239 --> 01:43:12,920
but I think you know the major goal is

2249
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:17,040
to get some feedback from us as to um

2250
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:19,199
you know items that we that could help

2251
01:43:19,199 --> 01:43:22,239
answer these questions um our opinions

2252
01:43:22,239 --> 01:43:24,400
but uh who would like to start

2253
01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:25,679
commissioner

2254
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:28,280
castanada oh yes thank you for that

2255
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:33,040
great presentation um I mean obviously

2256
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,560
we want to do an update that is going to

2257
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,599
incorporate the changes in law I mean to

2258
01:43:39,599 --> 01:43:42,239
start with of course we want to do that

2259
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:44,400
but I'm wondering if you could share

2260
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,840
with us the input that you got from the

2261
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,280
focus groups that you talked to on uh

2262
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,440
November the 11th the developers the

2263
01:43:52,440 --> 01:43:55,320
large and employers and and the

2264
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:58,360
professionals and and the workshop too I

2265
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,440
mean do you have any specific

2266
01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:03,480
recommendations to give us at this

2267
01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:06,040
time I don't think we're at that exact

2268
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,960
stage yet um staff wasn't in attendance

2269
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:11,000
of every stakeholder meeting

2270
01:44:11,000 --> 01:44:13,360
intentionally um to provide a more open

2271
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,880
forum for developers and large employers

2272
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,000
particularly um I think overall the

2273
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:19,960
feedback was varied with different

2274
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:21,760
highlights from each group given their

2275
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:23,639
interests in parking and seating

2276
01:44:23,639 --> 01:44:25,239
but I'll look to Brian if you wanted to

2277
01:44:25,239 --> 01:44:27,840
add any kind of highlights from the

2278
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:30,320
various stakeholder

2279
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:31,840
meetings

2280
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,560
sure were there were there specific uh

2281
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:35,520
stakeholder groups that you were

2282
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,040
interested in or just in

2283
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,199
general um well I was thinking of the

2284
01:44:40,199 --> 01:44:42,960
the large employers particularly and the

2285
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,280
developers okay I'll I'll we'll kind of

2286
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,760
tag tag team this some of the groups

2287
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:48,239
were more interested in the parking

2288
01:44:48,239 --> 01:44:49,639
aspects and some were a little bit more

2289
01:44:49,639 --> 01:44:51,080
interested in the transportation demand

2290
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,800
management um not surprisingly I'll I'll

2291
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:55,119
speak to the developers and I'll turn

2292
01:44:55,119 --> 01:44:56,480
over to Phil to speak to the to the

2293
01:44:56,480 --> 01:44:58,880
large employers so when we talk to the

2294
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,119
developers we had both residential and

2295
01:45:01,119 --> 01:45:05,040
non-residential in the room and I kind

2296
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:06,400
of maybe alluded to this a little bit

2297
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:08,000
earlier because we've also done similar

2298
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:10,159
exercises in other communities but when

2299
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:11,520
we bring these sorts of issues to

2300
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,920
developers often times what we hear is

2301
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,440
yes we understand these are you know the

2302
01:45:15,440 --> 01:45:16,719
city's goals and what they're they're

2303
01:45:16,719 --> 01:45:19,679
working towards but developers are often

2304
01:45:19,679 --> 01:45:21,960
times keeping an eye on the bottom line

2305
01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:23,560
um and not want

2306
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:27,199
anything to uh interfere with that at

2307
01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:30,760
the end of the day um looking at what we

2308
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,639
saw here there was a realization that on

2309
01:45:33,639 --> 01:45:35,599
the residential side that your parking

2310
01:45:35,599 --> 01:45:38,119
ratios for example can vary based on

2311
01:45:38,119 --> 01:45:39,960
your placement within the city right so

2312
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,880
if you are closer to the Cal TR station

2313
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,599
or in that that Transit oriented

2314
01:45:44,599 --> 01:45:46,639
District maybe one space per unit can

2315
01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:48,960
can work and it also can might vary a

2316
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,639
bit I think depending on whether it's uh

2317
01:45:51,639 --> 01:45:54,960
below market rate or market rate housing

2318
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:58,320
um on the non-residential side I think

2319
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:02,080
there was a understanding that the the

2320
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:05,320
mtct TC policy which is at 2 and a half

2321
01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:06,159
per

2322
01:46:06,159 --> 01:46:09,920
thousand can work for offices I think or

2323
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,599
sorry R&D research and development but

2324
01:46:12,599 --> 01:46:14,400
there was some hesitation about whether

2325
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,080
that can easily transition to to office

2326
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:18,960
or other more intense

2327
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:22,920
uses um okay the question I'll say one

2328
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:23,880
one last thing and I'll switch over to

2329
01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:26,080
Phill but in terms of the shared parking

2330
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:27,480
I think residential developers were

2331
01:46:27,480 --> 01:46:29,040
pretty clear that shared parking would

2332
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,360
be very difficult to to function which

2333
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:34,840
is not uncommon um but even from

2334
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:36,960
non-residential developers it was it

2335
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,520
there was some hesitancy around it um

2336
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:40,880
again so I think there would need to be

2337
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,040
adequate um protections kind of built

2338
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,070
into

2339
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:48,280
it know thank you commissioner great

2340
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,840
question uh we heard a lot of amazing

2341
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,360
feedback I think a couple highlights one

2342
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,520
was definitely a recognition that TDM

2343
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,520
and transportation demand management is

2344
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,400
needed uh concerns about traffic impacts

2345
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,280
partic particularly as we look towards

2346
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,560
the amount of development that um the

2347
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:09,440
city is is moving towards um it's on

2348
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:11,119
things are balanced now things are kind

2349
01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:13,159
of working now but again kind of

2350
01:47:13,159 --> 01:47:15,719
concerns about you know it will that

2351
01:47:15,719 --> 01:47:17,000
will things get out of balance

2352
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:18,639
particularly with our policy and and a

2353
01:47:18,639 --> 01:47:20,960
lot of the new development coming in uh

2354
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:24,239
we had some great feedback from um some

2355
01:47:24,239 --> 01:47:26,080
of the smaller employers saying we'd

2356
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:27,880
love to do this stuff but we don't have

2357
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:30,960
the resources to do it so it speaks to

2358
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:34,480
how can the city as a whole uh help

2359
01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:37,520
collaborate and help um stitch together

2360
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,920
some programs that support some of the

2361
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,199
smaller businesses that can't maybe

2362
01:47:42,199 --> 01:47:44,480
can't afford to hand out Transit passes

2363
01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:48,119
or can't stand up uh a a big TDM program

2364
01:47:48,119 --> 01:47:53,040
on their own uh I think uh others are

2365
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:55,199
recognize that they this is something

2366
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:56,960
that they need to do from a development

2367
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:59,159
perspective but really want to make sure

2368
01:47:59,159 --> 01:48:02,560
that the burden is reasonable and that

2369
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,480
the process is user friendly right now

2370
01:48:05,480 --> 01:48:07,440
you essentially have two TDM ordinances

2371
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,719
you have the regional one that

2372
01:48:09,719 --> 01:48:11,480
developers need to go through and you

2373
01:48:11,480 --> 01:48:14,239
have your TDM ordinance and they aren't

2374
01:48:14,239 --> 01:48:16,280
in they aren't totally aligned so it's

2375
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:17,920
it kind of doing two things so I think

2376
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,280
there's a desire for a streamline

2377
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,800
process and streamline tools to do that

2378
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,199
and then finally I think in terms of

2379
01:48:24,199 --> 01:48:27,520
specific strategies there's a desire for

2380
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:30,000
flexibility right don't tell us we have

2381
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:34,960
to do a b CDE e for every single project

2382
01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:37,920
give us that menu of choice and make and

2383
01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:40,000
let us figure out kind of the best thing

2384
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,599
that'll serve our tenants um I think on

2385
01:48:42,599 --> 01:48:44,119
the city side right you have to again

2386
01:48:44,119 --> 01:48:46,199
make sure that that combination of

2387
01:48:46,199 --> 01:48:48,280
things that they're picking is going to

2388
01:48:48,280 --> 01:48:49,760
meet that the meet the goals that you

2389
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,880
all set okay so that that those are some

2390
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,599
highights okay that's good thank you

2391
01:48:55,599 --> 01:48:58,320
thank you U the only thing i' I'd just

2392
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,400
say in followup is

2393
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:05,320
um I want to see as much flexibility in

2394
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:07,760
a plan as we could get and that includes

2395
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,800
with the numbers uh with ranges with you

2396
01:49:10,800 --> 01:49:15,360
know plus or minuses and also I think

2397
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,520
and I think you pointed this out that

2398
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,159
there there are going to have to be

2399
01:49:19,159 --> 01:49:20,840
different rules for for different

2400
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:23,719
densities different different areas is

2401
01:49:23,719 --> 01:49:25,679
those are certainly things that that I

2402
01:49:25,679 --> 01:49:27,560
would like to

2403
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:30,400
see so I'll let turn it over to someone

2404
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,480
else now thanks commissioner

2405
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:35,639
commissioner

2406
01:49:35,639 --> 01:49:38,480
anad thank you for the presentation um

2407
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:40,560
I'm wondering if this project involved

2408
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,040
or involves schools um in particular

2409
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,760
there's a pocket in San Carlos where we

2410
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,119
have about five schools in the same

2411
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:48,840
location and it's a nightmare

2412
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:50,679
traffic-wise be it public or private

2413
01:49:50,679 --> 01:49:52,840
transportation so how how how are

2414
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:55,239
schools um featured in this project or

2415
01:49:55,239 --> 01:50:00,390
if they are in the scope of

2416
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:02,880
this so the bulk of this project is

2417
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:05,560
really focused on new development right

2418
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:07,119
so we're changing the code most of that

2419
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:08,960
will affect new development the question

2420
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,280
has come up from City staff and that's

2421
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:13,400
that we would we absolutely welcome your

2422
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,040
feedback on this um is whether or not

2423
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:17,199
these policies particularly

2424
01:50:17,199 --> 01:50:18,639
Transportation demand management should

2425
01:50:18,639 --> 01:50:20,639
apply to existing development very few

2426
01:50:20,639 --> 01:50:23,760
communities do this but it is possible

2427
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,280
um so in terms right now the way we're

2428
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,119
looking at in terms of schools it would

2429
01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:28,840
be mostly affected by the management of

2430
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:30,719
on street parking right you have an

2431
01:50:30,719 --> 01:50:32,320
existing School we're not necessarily

2432
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,000
proposing that they change their off

2433
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:37,040
street parking but we might recommend um

2434
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,199
different uh a different framework for

2435
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:41,280
how they manage their on street parking

2436
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,440
but if you do have other desires like

2437
01:50:44,440 --> 01:50:46,239
you know managing TDM programs for

2438
01:50:46,239 --> 01:50:47,599
existing development we'd love to hear

2439
01:50:47,599 --> 01:50:50,280
that as well or if you would oppose that

2440
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:52,079
so does it mean that if there's a new

2441
01:50:52,079 --> 01:50:53,599
development coming coming up where there

2442
01:50:53,599 --> 01:50:57,239
is a school nearby the on street parking

2443
01:50:57,239 --> 01:50:58,840
uh ordinances might

2444
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:01,280
change yes so I mean so the idea here

2445
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:02,760
with the on street parking and what

2446
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:04,719
we're kind of leaning towards right now

2447
01:51:04,719 --> 01:51:07,320
is to allow flexibility so that if you

2448
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:08,719
do have a new development and you are in

2449
01:51:08,719 --> 01:51:10,760
a school zone that you have maybe

2450
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:12,679
different rules and procedures put in

2451
01:51:12,679 --> 01:51:15,000
place than you would perhaps in a

2452
01:51:15,000 --> 01:51:16,840
residential area or whatever the case

2453
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,880
happens to be so yes that that that

2454
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:23,679
element would be built in thank you

2455
01:51:23,679 --> 01:51:24,800
commissioner

2456
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:28,079
Bundy lots of topics here um first of

2457
01:51:28,079 --> 01:51:30,639
all I really appreciate this refresh you

2458
01:51:30,639 --> 01:51:31,960
know bringing together an integrated

2459
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,159
framework that's incorporating the new

2460
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:35,599
legislative requirements and the

2461
01:51:35,599 --> 01:51:38,280
policies and plans and parking can be

2462
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,599
such a lightning rod issue as new

2463
01:51:40,599 --> 01:51:42,360
development projects come before us and

2464
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:43,880
so I think it's really important that

2465
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,440
we're really intentional about this um

2466
01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:48,239
and appreciate that this is like a data

2467
01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:50,000
driven process it's incorporating

2468
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,199
stakeholder feedback and best practices

2469
01:51:52,199 --> 01:51:54,000
from around the region and and your own

2470
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,840
expertise working across the country so

2471
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,040
really appreciate that aspect of it I

2472
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:00,960
guess focusing in on your questions I

2473
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:02,840
think you're posing a tension here

2474
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:05,199
between the MTC obag grants and

2475
01:52:05,199 --> 01:52:07,440
development feasibility and could you

2476
01:52:07,440 --> 01:52:09,400
elaborate Enlighten us a little bit more

2477
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,440
on what you see as that tension that

2478
01:52:11,440 --> 01:52:14,390
we're we're trying to

2479
01:52:14,400 --> 01:52:17,320
balance sure um so to be a little bit

2480
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,320
more specific you know I'll give you

2481
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,119
actually firm numbers to deal with here

2482
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:23,159
so when we looked at

2483
01:52:23,159 --> 01:52:27,040
developments um I'll use multi-unit

2484
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:30,239
residential here so the mtct policy pegs

2485
01:52:30,239 --> 01:52:32,440
it at one space per unit the maximum and

2486
01:52:32,440 --> 01:52:34,239
that can be on an individual lot basis

2487
01:52:34,239 --> 01:52:36,480
or parking District this is only within

2488
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:38,639
a half a mile by the way of like for

2489
01:52:38,639 --> 01:52:41,159
example the Cal Train Station looking at

2490
01:52:41,159 --> 01:52:42,679
the developments that have been built

2491
01:52:42,679 --> 01:52:46,639
within the past five years here your

2492
01:52:46,639 --> 01:52:50,239
average multi-unit market rate

2493
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:53,159
development has 1.7 space is built per

2494
01:52:53,159 --> 01:52:56,119
unit your below market rate has

2495
01:52:56,119 --> 01:52:59,000
7 um based on those ratios if I'm a

2496
01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:00,280
developer coming in and I want to build

2497
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,400
those ratios that could be problematic

2498
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,800
right and so the the tension that I'm

2499
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:08,760
speaking to here is if we do pursue and

2500
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:10,880
we say yes we do want to maintain oag

2501
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,960
funding for the city and set it at one

2502
01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:15,040
one per

2503
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:19,679
unit um is you know we have to realize

2504
01:53:19,679 --> 01:53:21,199
how that affects potential devel

2505
01:53:21,199 --> 01:53:23,320
development feasibility That Could That

2506
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:25,360
Could materialize in different ways also

2507
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:27,639
because it's based on a per unit basis

2508
01:53:27,639 --> 01:53:28,840
you could it could incentivize

2509
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,639
developers I don't know to build more

2510
01:53:31,639 --> 01:53:34,040
one bedrooms and Studios rather than two

2511
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,599
or three bedroom units we also plan on

2512
01:53:36,599 --> 01:53:38,880
having a conversation with MTC to see

2513
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,400
what flexibility is available within the

2514
01:53:41,400 --> 01:53:44,320
TOC policy the way it reads right now

2515
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:47,040
just literally is just there's not a lot

2516
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,400
there um so we want to better understand

2517
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,800
for example can we build in you know

2518
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,119
provision Serv to say yes you can exceed

2519
01:53:54,119 --> 01:53:56,360
this if you provide some sort of

2520
01:53:56,360 --> 01:53:59,520
community benefit um but that's we want

2521
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,840
to be cognizant of this of this tension

2522
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:04,119
between setting maximums that are

2523
01:54:04,119 --> 01:54:07,400
potentially too low um and threatening

2524
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:08,920
housing Supply especially when the city

2525
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,679
is on the hook for making its Arena

2526
01:54:10,679 --> 01:54:12,840
targets and other things of that sort

2527
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,280
and are oag grants what kinds of

2528
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:16,400
projects are they funding how

2529
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,360
substantive are they in the funding

2530
01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:21,159
stream for the types of projects that

2531
01:54:21,159 --> 01:54:23,679
they cover that would be a City question

2532
01:54:23,679 --> 01:54:25,960
I'm not sure what um how you've used oag

2533
01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:27,880
funding in the

2534
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:31,310
past I'll come

2535
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:33,679
up yeah sorry I just can't I can't speak

2536
01:54:33,679 --> 01:54:39,229
to

2537
01:54:39,239 --> 01:54:41,119
that thank you for the question

2538
01:54:41,119 --> 01:54:43,119
commissioner uh Lisa poris planning

2539
01:54:43,119 --> 01:54:44,960
manager Advanced planning division so

2540
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:46,960
the city has received one Bay Area

2541
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:49,679
grants obat grants in the past to to the

2542
01:54:49,679 --> 01:54:51,920
tune of about 3.5 million over the

2543
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,800
course of I'd say maybe four or five

2544
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,000
years um and a lot of them have been

2545
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:00,119
used as capital projects to improve um

2546
01:55:00,119 --> 01:55:02,000
Street conditions for example we

2547
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:03,920
received a wbe area Grant to impr

2548
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:06,480
improve a portion of El Camino Real near

2549
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:11,159
the or Royo uh Avenue intersection um so

2550
01:55:11,159 --> 01:55:13,520
um the way that staff is looking at the

2551
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,360
one Bay Area Grant opportunity and again

2552
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:18,079
they are changing their eligibility

2553
01:55:18,079 --> 01:55:20,320
criteria so they've started meeting with

2554
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,760
local jurisdictions very far in Advance

2555
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,079
you know there's nine counties in the

2556
01:55:24,079 --> 01:55:28,199
Bay Area region many many cities so um

2557
01:55:28,199 --> 01:55:29,960
we in conversations with our Public

2558
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:32,079
Works Division and in recognition of a

2559
01:55:32,079 --> 01:55:34,480
lot of the initiatives that are underway

2560
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,639
improvements to the downtown and a lot

2561
01:55:36,639 --> 01:55:38,520
of other Capital Improvements the city

2562
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:41,280
would like to undertake um we are very

2563
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:43,960
um interested in making sure that the

2564
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,480
city is eligible but we want to like

2565
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:49,119
Brian mentioned have conversations with

2566
01:55:49,119 --> 01:55:51,679
um abag and MTC staff to see if there is

2567
01:55:51,679 --> 01:55:54,679
that Flex abbility but at this point um

2568
01:55:54,679 --> 01:55:56,560
it is um something that we're aiming

2569
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:58,000
towards we think it would be great for

2570
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,119
the city to be competitive and to be

2571
01:56:00,119 --> 01:56:02,199
able to get grant funding for the

2572
01:56:02,199 --> 01:56:03,880
projects that we need or for the

2573
01:56:03,880 --> 01:56:06,280
projects that we are planning for thank

2574
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:09,069
you very much

2575
01:56:09,079 --> 01:56:11,719
yeah anything else Comm bendy yeah I

2576
01:56:11,719 --> 01:56:13,840
mean I guess my thoughts on that that

2577
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,520
definitely exploring that flexibility

2578
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,239
you know I think if the oag numbers stay

2579
01:56:19,239 --> 01:56:21,639
in place region wide then the new

2580
01:56:21,639 --> 01:56:23,560
housing stock sort of regionally you

2581
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,280
know starts to shift in that way so um

2582
01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:28,840
you know by giving up land for parking

2583
01:56:28,840 --> 01:56:30,880
we are giving up land for units so I

2584
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:32,639
think it you know understanding that

2585
01:56:32,639 --> 01:56:35,960
flexibility um and continuing to to poke

2586
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:38,320
on that question seems like a good

2587
01:56:38,320 --> 01:56:40,119
direction to

2588
01:56:40,119 --> 01:56:43,960
head thanks um I have a a couple

2589
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:47,440
questions and some comments but um I I'm

2590
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:49,679
assuming for the parking strategy we may

2591
01:56:49,679 --> 01:56:53,040
be also looking at how the city-owned

2592
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:56,560
parking is being used um and are we

2593
01:56:56,560 --> 01:57:00,320
doing any um parking surveys for how

2594
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,639
much the privately owned parking is

2595
01:57:02,639 --> 01:57:04,639
being used and and how we can think

2596
01:57:04,639 --> 01:57:07,239
about things perhaps in a in a zone or a

2597
01:57:07,239 --> 01:57:11,280
region or small region um for you know

2598
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,840
like a Downtown parking um plan if you

2599
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:18,079
will excellent question uh I'm actually

2600
01:57:18,079 --> 01:57:19,960
the project manager for the Downtown

2601
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,199
parking management plan uh which is a

2602
01:57:22,199 --> 01:57:24,960
separate project um and so we do

2603
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,599
actually have comprehensive occupancy

2604
01:57:27,599 --> 01:57:30,840
and inventory data for the downtown got

2605
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:32,599
it um we actually you know conducted

2606
01:57:32,599 --> 01:57:34,480
data counts on you know a few different

2607
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:36,599
days several hours and so forth so we do

2608
01:57:36,599 --> 01:57:38,040
have that data for the

2609
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:40,639
downtown for the city as a whole sorry

2610
01:57:40,639 --> 01:57:42,079
I'm G I'm going to back up to one of the

2611
01:57:42,079 --> 01:57:43,679
previous Graphics here just so you can

2612
01:57:43,679 --> 01:57:48,119
see it on the screen um here these zones

2613
01:57:48,119 --> 01:57:50,040
that we had identified within the city

2614
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:52,560
you know obviously the entire city is

2615
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:54,440
important and we'll be crafting or

2616
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,599
ordinances to accommodate that but this

2617
01:57:56,599 --> 01:57:58,440
is really where the bulk of future

2618
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,119
development could take place and we want

2619
01:58:01,119 --> 01:58:02,719
to be cognizant of that and so what we

2620
01:58:02,719 --> 01:58:04,719
did was we already have the occupancy

2621
01:58:04,719 --> 01:58:06,679
and inventory data for downtown Stan

2622
01:58:06,679 --> 01:58:11,480
Carlos we just completed an essentially

2623
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:14,480
a review of the parking inventory for

2624
01:58:14,480 --> 01:58:17,159
all of these districts um and I

2625
01:58:17,159 --> 01:58:18,560
literally just got those numbers about

2626
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:21,840
an hour ago um and so I think if I'm not

2627
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:23,880
mist staken there's about 21 half

2628
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:27,880
thousand parking spaces um that are um

2629
01:58:27,880 --> 01:58:30,000
visually accessible which means there's

2630
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:33,280
more um so we do have a sense of how

2631
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:36,119
much parking is there um this is data

2632
01:58:36,119 --> 01:58:37,639
that will be folded into the existing

2633
01:58:37,639 --> 01:58:39,320
conditions report because it also gives

2634
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:42,599
a scale on how much

2635
01:58:42,599 --> 01:58:45,880
um land and resources is devoted to

2636
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,560
parking within the city of Stan Carlos

2637
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,560
and kind of gives a perspective on

2638
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,040
it thanks

2639
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,079
um you know it seems to me that with for

2640
01:58:56,079 --> 01:58:59,079
a city that has a small footprint tight

2641
01:58:59,079 --> 01:59:03,679
sites the idea of first Regional parking

2642
01:59:03,679 --> 01:59:06,119
um and then second shared parking it

2643
01:59:06,119 --> 01:59:08,639
seems kind of like a natural fit I do

2644
01:59:08,639 --> 01:59:11,719
think um obviously we need to be really

2645
01:59:11,719 --> 01:59:14,079
cognizant of what we hear from the

2646
01:59:14,079 --> 01:59:16,880
development community and perhaps The

2647
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,520
Lending community directly as to what

2648
01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:22,719
their tolerance is for parking to day

2649
01:59:22,719 --> 01:59:25,719
and again this will change over time but

2650
01:59:25,719 --> 01:59:30,280
I I think I think I mean big picture the

2651
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:34,360
um the the TOC standards in my

2652
01:59:34,360 --> 01:59:36,360
experience that I have looked at from a

2653
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:38,280
housing perspective are really

2654
01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,840
aspirational they are not standard they

2655
01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:43,960
are not common and so I know they're

2656
01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,320
trying to you know drive everyone in a

2657
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:49,480
certain direction but I don't

2658
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,800
think I I do think that conversations

2659
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:55,239
about being more specific and being and

2660
01:59:55,239 --> 01:59:58,040
getting them to add some flexibility

2661
01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:00,159
especially for parking ratios in

2662
02:00:00,159 --> 02:00:01,760
different kinds of markets I mean can

2663
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,840
you imagine like San Ramone having these

2664
02:00:04,840 --> 02:00:06,760
conversations like yes they may have a

2665
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:08,920
Transit Center but come on everyone uses

2666
02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:12,159
cars in certain places folks are not you

2667
02:00:12,159 --> 02:00:14,920
know all in downtown San Francisco where

2668
02:00:14,920 --> 02:00:17,719
they're choosing not to have own cars so

2669
02:00:17,719 --> 02:00:19,560
I I think it's important that they have

2670
02:00:19,560 --> 02:00:20,480
some more

2671
02:00:20,480 --> 02:00:23,239
flexibility um or or else I I just feel

2672
02:00:23,239 --> 02:00:25,199
like we're going to have communities

2673
02:00:25,199 --> 02:00:27,480
vowing and putting in place things to

2674
02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:29,079
get funding and then that just won't be

2675
02:00:29,079 --> 02:00:30,679
successful we're not going to see the

2676
02:00:30,679 --> 02:00:33,119
housing production that we need and I do

2677
02:00:33,119 --> 02:00:35,560
think that that concern is real um from

2678
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:37,599
the development

2679
02:00:37,599 --> 02:00:41,159
Community um I think it makes a ton of

2680
02:00:41,159 --> 02:00:43,360
sense to copy um you know other

2681
02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:45,520
jurisdictions if they've got menus of

2682
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:49,280
TDM options that have you know score by

2683
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,440
impacts it makes sense to just do what

2684
02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:55,159
other people have done um and and to try

2685
02:00:55,159 --> 02:00:56,679
to do it well because if you've got the

2686
02:00:56,679 --> 02:00:57,840
standardized list then you're going to

2687
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:00,159
get standardized data from the list

2688
02:01:00,159 --> 02:01:01,719
right and be able to monitor it better

2689
02:01:01,719 --> 02:01:03,679
so that makes a ton of sense to

2690
02:01:03,679 --> 02:01:08,040
me um I work in San Jose we do have and

2691
02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,840
we did um I did coordinate with our um

2692
02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:13,159
Department of Transportation to create

2693
02:01:13,159 --> 02:01:16,840
kind of a pass on TDM analysis for 100%

2694
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:19,000
restricted affordable properties they

2695
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:21,280
were able to make the findings for that

2696
02:01:21,280 --> 02:01:23,800
because um Folks at lower incomes are

2697
02:01:23,800 --> 02:01:28,000
more likely to use Transit and so um the

2698
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,199
way that our policy works there is that

2699
02:01:31,199 --> 02:01:34,639
the um the impact is assessed and then

2700
02:01:34,639 --> 02:01:37,239
the question of the offsets or the

2701
02:01:37,239 --> 02:01:40,280
amelioration of the impact if that

2702
02:01:40,280 --> 02:01:42,480
cannot be afforded and oftentimes these

2703
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:45,280
are projects the city is subsidizing

2704
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:48,000
right and so you know you can have them

2705
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:49,360
do all kinds of bells and whistles

2706
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:50,560
really that's just going to come

2707
02:01:50,560 --> 02:01:53,560
potentially from public funding sources

2708
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:57,760
um in the end um so they're assessed but

2709
02:01:57,760 --> 02:02:00,280
then if they cannot afford some of the

2710
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,320
offsets or they cannot afford the

2711
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:05,719
monitoring then kind of a pass is given

2712
02:02:05,719 --> 02:02:08,199
so it's recognizing that everybody has

2713
02:02:08,199 --> 02:02:12,760
impacts um I do think that you know as

2714
02:02:12,760 --> 02:02:17,880
we look at TDM and monitoring obviously

2715
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:19,360
there are certain kinds of businesses

2716
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:21,960
more able and more and owners more able

2717
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:25,280
to accommodate um the costs of

2718
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:27,320
monitoring and the costs of delivering

2719
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:31,239
the offsets right so the I think it's

2720
02:02:31,239 --> 02:02:33,079
really important to kind of get that

2721
02:02:33,079 --> 02:02:36,920
feedback early um you know R&D versus

2722
02:02:36,920 --> 02:02:39,199
little small businesses obviously crazy

2723
02:02:39,199 --> 02:02:41,760
different in terms of their ability to

2724
02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:44,960
afford different um different uh

2725
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:47,040
features for their

2726
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:51,960
projects so I think I I do think it's I

2727
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:53,920
think it's an intriguing question which

2728
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:58,960
is is there something um I is there the

2729
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:02,719
opportunity for some contribution from

2730
02:03:02,719 --> 02:03:06,000
um Community benefits dollars that could

2731
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:08,719
go for you know small businesses in the

2732
02:03:08,719 --> 02:03:11,760
downtown um could they as an example

2733
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:13,760
could the city help fund like an echo

2734
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:15,560
pass or whatever the program would be

2735
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,440
for Sam trans um and to have that kind

2736
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:20,560
of subsidy for the workers in the

2737
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:23,719
downtown um that the city can help work

2738
02:03:23,719 --> 02:03:26,360
with the regional government to um get

2739
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:30,639
the discount for people so um either

2740
02:03:30,639 --> 02:03:32,800
with its own budget or with payments

2741
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:35,199
from Community benefits agreements that

2742
02:03:35,199 --> 02:03:39,639
could go for these kinds of uses um so I

2743
02:03:39,639 --> 02:03:42,480
think investigating that is all very

2744
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:45,239
interesting and um finally there are

2745
02:03:45,239 --> 02:03:46,599
just so many things to talk about here

2746
02:03:46,599 --> 02:03:50,559
so I'll stop after this but I do um I do

2747
02:03:50,559 --> 02:03:53,520
support the collection of some fees to

2748
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:56,440
monitor the outcomes there's no way to

2749
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:59,280
for TDM um and maybe for parking too but

2750
02:03:59,280 --> 02:04:01,320
there's no way to put these things in

2751
02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:04,119
place and then not fund staff to be able

2752
02:04:04,119 --> 02:04:06,000
to analy collect the data and analyze

2753
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:08,079
the data that just that defeats the

2754
02:04:08,079 --> 02:04:09,800
purpose of having the program at all

2755
02:04:09,800 --> 02:04:13,559
right so I do support um analysis for

2756
02:04:13,559 --> 02:04:15,440
what it would take for staff to either

2757
02:04:15,440 --> 02:04:18,239
do the analysis themselves or to hire

2758
02:04:18,239 --> 02:04:20,079
Consulting assistants to do that in a

2759
02:04:20,079 --> 02:04:21,880
certain way with a certain free

2760
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:24,360
frequency and just see what that looks

2761
02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:29,520
like um if it's spread widely enough on

2762
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:31,320
and it gets to your question of is this

2763
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:33,280
just for new developments are these

2764
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:34,920
requirements for new developments or is

2765
02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:39,159
it you know more Global for the TDM um

2766
02:04:39,159 --> 02:04:41,079
if it's spread among more parties then

2767
02:04:41,079 --> 02:04:43,679
it would be you know less per party to

2768
02:04:43,679 --> 02:04:47,520
pay so I'm I'm kind of interested as to

2769
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:50,000
what that might look like for you know

2770
02:04:50,000 --> 02:04:52,639
existing properties as well I don't know

2771
02:04:52,639 --> 02:04:55,119
I don't know how out there how extreme

2772
02:04:55,119 --> 02:04:57,040
that is or how many communities do that

2773
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,000
for existing properties

2774
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:03,840
but um so I you know finally I just I

2775
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:05,480
think this is an a really exciting

2776
02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:07,679
project and I I do see how the parking

2777
02:05:07,679 --> 02:05:10,320
strategy and the TDM go together because

2778
02:05:10,320 --> 02:05:12,239
of the push and pull on the public

2779
02:05:12,239 --> 02:05:14,840
resources which we all have given free

2780
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:16,880
of charge for parking at the curb and

2781
02:05:16,880 --> 02:05:19,119
parking on our streets and intentionally

2782
02:05:19,119 --> 02:05:21,719
not charging for parking in the downtown

2783
02:05:21,719 --> 02:05:23,360
and I I'm glad that we're looking at all

2784
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:24,520
of it kind of

2785
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:28,119
holistically and um and looking you know

2786
02:05:28,119 --> 02:05:29,960
taking obviously a really fact-based

2787
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:33,400
approach to what works I think you know

2788
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:36,280
if you if you talk to downtown owners or

2789
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:37,960
you talk to Residents and they'll be

2790
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:41,199
like I love my free parking right that

2791
02:05:41,199 --> 02:05:43,040
is totally valid and there's a

2792
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:44,559
perception that it's important and it

2793
02:05:44,559 --> 02:05:46,719
drives business and I think the question

2794
02:05:46,719 --> 02:05:50,280
is um could charging a very small amount

2795
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:52,199
like Redwood City does

2796
02:05:52,199 --> 02:05:54,440
help the cars cycle through so you

2797
02:05:54,440 --> 02:05:57,079
actually get more business potentially

2798
02:05:57,079 --> 02:06:00,280
um in you know over the over the hours

2799
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,360
so it you know I think just taking a

2800
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,119
fast fact-based approach to how these

2801
02:06:04,119 --> 02:06:05,760
are working in other communities is

2802
02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:07,880
going to be really helpful for us

2803
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:10,040
because we all want to drive traffic so

2804
02:06:10,040 --> 02:06:13,639
to speak foot traffic um business to our

2805
02:06:13,639 --> 02:06:16,840
businesses so anyway those are some of

2806
02:06:16,840 --> 02:06:19,480
my thoughts this is really an exciting

2807
02:06:19,480 --> 02:06:21,960
project so I appreciate you coming to us

2808
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:24,639
and um I personally look forward to

2809
02:06:24,639 --> 02:06:27,199
working some more on this as overtime as

2810
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:30,040
we are the TAC I guess so that's

2811
02:06:30,040 --> 02:06:32,559
great those are my thoughts any other

2812
02:06:32,559 --> 02:06:35,880
commissioner thoughts before we wrap

2813
02:06:35,880 --> 02:06:38,559
yeah commission a couple more um I mean

2814
02:06:38,559 --> 02:06:40,280
first of all I think this idea of

2815
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:41,840
incentivizing the most impactful

2816
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:43,760
measures be that through a points based

2817
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,840
system or the design guidance I think

2818
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:49,880
that's um really a valuable approach and

2819
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:51,360
then the monitoring is something I'm

2820
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,360
really interested in I think you know

2821
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:54,840
what is the true value of the

2822
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:56,920
self-reported monitoring how burdensome

2823
02:06:56,920 --> 02:06:58,199
is it what are we doing with the

2824
02:06:58,199 --> 02:06:59,920
information like we shouldn't just be

2825
02:06:59,920 --> 02:07:02,480
reporting for reporting sake um so

2826
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:04,239
really you know looking at what those

2827
02:07:04,239 --> 02:07:05,920
thresholds should be for different

2828
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:07,679
project types and I think particularly

2829
02:07:07,679 --> 02:07:09,719
the multif family development of 10

2830
02:07:09,719 --> 02:07:11,400
units or more that feels like a kind of

2831
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:14,119
low threshold um particularly if we're

2832
02:07:14,119 --> 02:07:15,520
seeing that the measures they've

2833
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:17,480
included are ones that we know to have

2834
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:19,360
been effective and then the other

2835
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:21,679
question I think it's important to um

2836
02:07:21,679 --> 02:07:24,040
consider like the wheelchair users and

2837
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:25,400
disability groups and how they're

2838
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:27,960
impacted by these policies so just over

2839
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:30,040
time if you could share how you're

2840
02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:32,719
getting input from those user groups um

2841
02:07:32,719 --> 02:07:34,199
I imagine we're already doing things in

2842
02:07:34,199 --> 02:07:36,239
San Carlos that are serving those user

2843
02:07:36,239 --> 02:07:38,760
groups and learning what best practices

2844
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:40,440
are just to ensure that we're not you

2845
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:42,840
know sort of I see that a lot you know

2846
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:44,800
next door and whatnot as far as you know

2847
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,920
I'm elderly and I need to be able to run

2848
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,079
into the cleaners so how are we really

2849
02:07:49,079 --> 02:07:51,000
making sure those those user groups are

2850
02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:53,239
accommodated as we uh reinv Vision the

2851
02:07:53,239 --> 02:07:55,520
parking strategies so that's just

2852
02:07:55,520 --> 02:07:58,239
comments for the future commissioner can

2853
02:07:58,239 --> 02:07:59,840
I just ask a clarifying question on one

2854
02:07:59,840 --> 02:08:02,520
of your comments um you mentioned the

2855
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:05,320
10un threshold can you just clarify kind

2856
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:08,239
of your where your thoughts lie on kind

2857
02:08:08,239 --> 02:08:10,480
of that that level of threshold whether

2858
02:08:10,480 --> 02:08:12,840
it's too high too low you'd like to

2859
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:17,159
see it it raise to exempt projects that

2860
02:08:17,159 --> 02:08:19,599
are 15 units or maybe you don't know yet

2861
02:08:19,599 --> 02:08:20,760
but I just kind of wanted that

2862
02:08:20,760 --> 02:08:22,880
clarifying yeah I don't have a number

2863
02:08:22,880 --> 02:08:26,679
for you today a 10un um multif Family

2864
02:08:26,679 --> 02:08:28,520
development that requires annual

2865
02:08:28,520 --> 02:08:31,000
monitoring reports I just I wonder if

2866
02:08:31,000 --> 02:08:33,679
that is um an overly burdensome

2867
02:08:33,679 --> 02:08:35,840
requirement for you know the sort of

2868
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,559
long-term of the project particularly if

2869
02:08:38,559 --> 02:08:40,880
you know it's it's within the half mile

2870
02:08:40,880 --> 02:08:43,599
of the transit we've Incorporated the

2871
02:08:43,599 --> 02:08:45,199
housing maximum you know if there's

2872
02:08:45,199 --> 02:08:47,800
other measures that are sort of proven

2873
02:08:47,800 --> 02:08:51,559
um what is the real value to us in

2874
02:08:51,559 --> 02:08:53,559
requiring that and how burdensome is

2875
02:08:53,559 --> 02:08:55,639
that you know in a in perpetuity to

2876
02:08:55,639 --> 02:08:57,880
these developments it's a so I would say

2877
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:01,360
that my impulse is that it feels low um

2878
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:04,119
and that I would be interested in

2879
02:09:04,119 --> 02:09:05,679
understanding if there's a you know a

2880
02:09:05,679 --> 02:09:07,800
more reasonable threshold you know maybe

2881
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:10,040
if it's like one developer who owns many

2882
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,280
10un thresholds that's a different

2883
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:14,960
question than a single developer so I

2884
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:17,520
think that that's one that I thought the

2885
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:20,480
burden might be outsized yeah many of

2886
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:21,960
the communities that we highlighted in

2887
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:24,000
our best practices have have higher

2888
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:26,599
thresholds about 20 units is typically

2889
02:09:26,599 --> 02:09:29,599
both both the city and the CAG

2890
02:09:29,599 --> 02:09:32,400
requirement recognizing again that those

2891
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:35,320
projects have lower impact on the

2892
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:37,800
transportation

2893
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:41,400
Network thank you thanks commissioner

2894
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:43,520
let me I just wanted to note one more

2895
02:09:43,520 --> 02:09:45,960
thing while we're thinking of it um I

2896
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:49,159
did have the same thought um that you

2897
02:09:49,159 --> 02:09:52,520
had done uh Brian that

2898
02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:55,239
parking standards that are go by unit

2899
02:09:55,239 --> 02:09:59,079
rather than by bedroom drive to smaller

2900
02:09:59,079 --> 02:10:01,239
units and that may or may not have

2901
02:10:01,239 --> 02:10:03,040
anything to do with what we need here

2902
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:06,719
for housing stock in St Carlos and I I I

2903
02:10:06,719 --> 02:10:11,360
find that to be strangely non-specific

2904
02:10:11,360 --> 02:10:15,040
so I encourage us to um you know pursue

2905
02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:18,280
more conversations with with MTC on the

2906
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:20,000
TOC and I I I know a lot of

2907
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:22,840
jurisdictions are having questions um

2908
02:10:22,840 --> 02:10:25,719
and conversations with them and again

2909
02:10:25,719 --> 02:10:27,719
the level of detail on some of the

2910
02:10:27,719 --> 02:10:30,480
program requirements I it's not just

2911
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:32,199
like do you have a program that does X

2912
02:10:32,199 --> 02:10:33,599
it's that you do you have a program that

2913
02:10:33,599 --> 02:10:35,719
does X in the following way that's

2914
02:10:35,719 --> 02:10:37,960
consistent in the following time like

2915
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:40,520
all the many many details maybe don't

2916
02:10:40,520 --> 02:10:42,239
all hang together for a lot of

2917
02:10:42,239 --> 02:10:44,920
jurisdictions and still make a lot of um

2918
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:46,960
organ you know a lot of cities eligible

2919
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:50,239
for funding which I I don't I think it a

2920
02:10:50,239 --> 02:10:52,079
little defeats the purpose of trying to

2921
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:53,800
improve things if no one can access the

2922
02:10:53,800 --> 02:10:56,360
funds to improve things so so I

2923
02:10:56,360 --> 02:10:58,360
encourage those conversations as well

2924
02:10:58,360 --> 02:10:59,800
absolutely we we that was one of the

2925
02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:01,920
questions we had for them is because it

2926
02:11:01,920 --> 02:11:03,960
only reads as a per unit could be per

2927
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:06,000
bedroom which is oftentimes a better

2928
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:09,440
judge of parking demand I will note just

2929
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:11,639
for because I failed to I omitted this

2930
02:11:11,639 --> 02:11:14,800
in my presentation but mtc's and its Toc

2931
02:11:14,800 --> 02:11:17,360
policy there are four tiers of categor

2932
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:18,880
so they don't necessarily apply the same

2933
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:20,599
category for every Community here in St

2934
02:11:20,599 --> 02:11:23,559
Carlos it's tier three okay so in other

2935
02:11:23,559 --> 02:11:25,639
communities it could be tier one which

2936
02:11:25,639 --> 02:11:27,199
is like downtown San Francisco in which

2937
02:11:27,199 --> 02:11:29,760
the maximums are very very low um but

2938
02:11:29,760 --> 02:11:31,679
again I think that was their attempt to

2939
02:11:31,679 --> 02:11:36,000
try to match the requirements with

2940
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,159
appropriate development feasibility

2941
02:11:38,159 --> 02:11:39,679
again that's I think we need to kind of

2942
02:11:39,679 --> 02:11:41,040
work through that a little bit with MTC

2943
02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:43,079
to see how it actually functions yeah

2944
02:11:43,079 --> 02:11:45,000
thank you for that and I I would just

2945
02:11:45,000 --> 02:11:46,559
say development feasibility changes

2946
02:11:46,559 --> 02:11:49,079
every minute of the day and so you know

2947
02:11:49,079 --> 02:11:51,000
to try to second guess what the market

2948
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:53,360
will produce today versus 3 months from

2949
02:11:53,360 --> 02:11:55,559
now versus two years from now is very

2950
02:11:55,559 --> 02:11:58,599
hard so I do think flexibility um is

2951
02:11:58,599 --> 02:12:01,440
warranted and and I I would say that

2952
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:04,119
housing production is really a Paramount

2953
02:12:04,119 --> 02:12:06,400
objective this is we've spent so much

2954
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:08,719
time trying to do a housing element that

2955
02:12:08,719 --> 02:12:10,960
will result or like you know increase

2956
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:13,440
the likelihood of more housing and we we

2957
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:16,639
really need it so I have two more quick

2958
02:12:16,639 --> 02:12:19,520
things good good so sorry um one is the

2959
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:21,960
idea of continuing to explore the shared

2960
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:24,360
parking I think 40% of the units are

2961
02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:26,239
shared and I know that I certainly have

2962
02:12:26,239 --> 02:12:28,159
driven the back alleys and there's

2963
02:12:28,159 --> 02:12:30,440
parking that's very empty and I can't

2964
02:12:30,440 --> 02:12:31,920
park there because I'm not going to that

2965
02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:34,159
specific business so um I think

2966
02:12:34,159 --> 02:12:35,880
exploring that and then I'm also very

2967
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:37,639
interested in that parking District

2968
02:12:37,639 --> 02:12:40,239
concept and would like to learn more

2969
02:12:40,239 --> 02:12:42,079
about where it's working how it's

2970
02:12:42,079 --> 02:12:44,239
working um I think I'm somewhat familiar

2971
02:12:44,239 --> 02:12:46,239
with Mission Rock and how they you know

2972
02:12:46,239 --> 02:12:48,159
Incorporated some shared parking

2973
02:12:48,159 --> 02:12:50,440
structures and the district approach so

2974
02:12:50,440 --> 02:12:52,239
it would be great to learn you know from

2975
02:12:52,239 --> 02:12:54,119
others how that's playing out I think

2976
02:12:54,119 --> 02:12:58,320
that given the um small geographic area

2977
02:12:58,320 --> 02:12:59,880
we're looking at that is a real

2978
02:12:59,880 --> 02:13:02,639
opportunity for us yeah absolutely I'll

2979
02:13:02,639 --> 02:13:04,199
just quickly comment on both of those

2980
02:13:04,199 --> 02:13:05,440
but the shared parking I think we're

2981
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:08,320
going to be looking at it both from um

2982
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:10,199
how it could apply to existing

2983
02:13:10,199 --> 02:13:12,840
development and and our future so we

2984
02:13:12,840 --> 02:13:14,360
might have different mechanisms for both

2985
02:13:14,360 --> 02:13:17,719
depending on where it is um and then on

2986
02:13:17,719 --> 02:13:19,920
the district based approach that's

2987
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:22,000
something that we want to to look at not

2988
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,239
only in terms of just generally Like a

2989
02:13:24,239 --> 02:13:26,000
downtown district and how you can better

2990
02:13:26,000 --> 02:13:28,719
pull your resources but also for for

2991
02:13:28,719 --> 02:13:31,599
existing development but also how that

2992
02:13:31,599 --> 02:13:34,360
could work from an MTC Toc policy

2993
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:36,559
compliance because according to them you

2994
02:13:36,559 --> 02:13:39,040
can treat it as one big District but one

2995
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:40,040
of the points I came up with the

2996
02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:42,920
developers is to say well that's great

2997
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:44,760
let's say you have 10,000 parking spaces

2998
02:13:44,760 --> 02:13:47,040
that are available in the district does

2999
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:48,000
that just mean that the first

3000
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:49,559
development's in get to use up most of

3001
02:13:49,559 --> 02:13:51,239
them and then everyone else is kind of

3002
02:13:51,239 --> 02:13:53,960
doesn't or how does that function and so

3003
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:55,880
again another toing talking point for

3004
02:13:55,880 --> 02:13:57,880
MTC and clarifying how their District

3005
02:13:57,880 --> 02:13:59,199
approach would

3006
02:13:59,199 --> 02:14:03,159
work right can I ask a question pleas um

3007
02:14:03,159 --> 02:14:05,320
I'm curious how did how does the

3008
02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:09,280
electric vehicle uh parking spots

3009
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:11,719
feature in this whole

3010
02:14:11,719 --> 02:14:14,719
study sure I I'll actually um I'm going

3011
02:14:14,719 --> 02:14:16,639
to expand upon the question to actually

3012
02:14:16,639 --> 02:14:19,679
answer two there two related questions

3013
02:14:19,679 --> 02:14:21,760
regarding electric vehicles

3014
02:14:21,760 --> 02:14:23,520
generally It's relatively simple you

3015
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:25,360
want to be in compliance with Cal green

3016
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:27,559
standards um Cal green standards are

3017
02:14:27,559 --> 02:14:30,639
updated periodically it includes a whole

3018
02:14:30,639 --> 02:14:32,040
host of requirements in terms of number

3019
02:14:32,040 --> 02:14:34,079
of spaces type of spaces and so forth

3020
02:14:34,079 --> 02:14:36,040
and so that I wouldn't necessarily say

3021
02:14:36,040 --> 02:14:37,520
we're going to look at as part of your

3022
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:39,360
code more than just to say stay in

3023
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:43,280
compliance with that in terms of on

3024
02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:46,679
Street accessible disabled spaces right

3025
02:14:46,679 --> 02:14:48,559
now the federal government or I should

3026
02:14:48,559 --> 02:14:50,079
say the Department of Transportation is

3027
02:14:50,079 --> 02:14:52,320
considering adoption of the

3028
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:53,840
public

3029
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:56,760
RightWay accessibility guidelines proag

3030
02:14:56,760 --> 02:15:00,880
thank you Phil um and uh the proag the

3031
02:15:00,880 --> 02:15:02,840
guidelines there essentially determine

3032
02:15:02,840 --> 02:15:03,920
there's a whole host of things that

3033
02:15:03,920 --> 02:15:05,639
includes in there one of the things that

3034
02:15:05,639 --> 02:15:09,760
includes is mandating a a minimum number

3035
02:15:09,760 --> 02:15:13,159
of accessible on Street spaces per block

3036
02:15:13,159 --> 02:15:14,719
face so it's not just off street it's

3037
02:15:14,719 --> 02:15:17,800
also on Street certain has been adopted

3038
02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:19,199
by some agencies but not by the

3039
02:15:19,199 --> 02:15:20,639
Department of Transportation yet we're

3040
02:15:20,639 --> 02:15:22,440
waiting for that to happen in

3041
02:15:22,440 --> 02:15:24,639
2025 with the change of administration I

3042
02:15:24,639 --> 02:15:26,679
don't know how that's going to affect it

3043
02:15:26,679 --> 02:15:28,719
um hopefully we'll still get adopted but

3044
02:15:28,719 --> 02:15:31,079
again if it we will be keeping close eye

3045
02:15:31,079 --> 02:15:33,159
on that and make sure that if it does

3046
02:15:33,159 --> 02:15:34,400
get adopted obviously it'll be

3047
02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:36,679
incorporated into everything that we

3048
02:15:36,679 --> 02:15:39,639
do thank

3049
02:15:39,639 --> 02:15:42,559
you yeah I just have one final point

3050
02:15:42,559 --> 02:15:46,639
when we're thinking about um timing and

3051
02:15:46,639 --> 02:15:49,599
pricing and trying to optimize turnover

3052
02:15:49,599 --> 02:15:52,320
of parking that when we're considering

3053
02:15:52,320 --> 02:15:55,400
our downtown commercial area I I want us

3054
02:15:55,400 --> 02:15:58,040
to do the best job we can to make sure

3055
02:15:58,040 --> 02:16:00,520
that the merchants are going to have

3056
02:16:00,520 --> 02:16:03,520
parking spaces so you know optimizing

3057
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:05,559
the turnover time so that people have

3058
02:16:05,559 --> 02:16:08,520
time to go can go in and park and shop

3059
02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:10,159
and then get out of there so the next

3060
02:16:10,159 --> 02:16:11,920
person can come in I think is just

3061
02:16:11,920 --> 02:16:15,199
essential for our downtown area great no

3062
02:16:15,199 --> 02:16:17,199
and and that's really one of the key

3063
02:16:17,199 --> 02:16:20,199
elements of this but again whatever we

3064
02:16:20,199 --> 02:16:22,000
propose as as part of this again because

3065
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:23,719
this is kind of the 30,000 foot level

3066
02:16:23,719 --> 02:16:25,440
and we're talking about a framework

3067
02:16:25,440 --> 02:16:26,800
that's exactly the sort of input we want

3068
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:28,400
to hear because you're saying that is an

3069
02:16:28,400 --> 02:16:30,159
outcome that we want to see right we're

3070
02:16:30,159 --> 02:16:32,760
trying to identify like high turnover in

3071
02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:34,000
these sorts of area these business

3072
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:36,639
districts so thank you for

3073
02:16:36,639 --> 02:16:39,920
that thank you um and I I neglected to

3074
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:41,399
say one more thing before we go to next

3075
02:16:41,399 --> 02:16:44,719
steps which is I we do hear a lot of

3076
02:16:44,719 --> 02:16:47,200
residents that live close to the

3077
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:49,359
downtown I'm really asking about

3078
02:16:49,359 --> 02:16:52,200
residential permit stickers right so I I

3079
02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:54,599
think this is a good opportunity to kind

3080
02:16:54,599 --> 02:16:57,120
of look at how that how that could work

3081
02:16:57,120 --> 02:17:00,040
well I'm glad to hear that the gesc

3082
02:17:00,040 --> 02:17:03,760
stickers are working and um and I do

3083
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:05,679
think it may make sense for some other

3084
02:17:05,679 --> 02:17:07,399
community some other neighborhoods that

3085
02:17:07,399 --> 02:17:10,160
align Laurel at least and maybe St

3086
02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:13,200
Carlos um to also be considering that

3087
02:17:13,200 --> 02:17:14,719
and to see if that could make a

3088
02:17:14,719 --> 02:17:20,479
difference um so thanks with this um

3089
02:17:20,479 --> 02:17:22,599
have we taken public comment we have not

3090
02:17:22,599 --> 02:17:25,679
sorry about that one at this point

3091
02:17:25,679 --> 02:17:27,760
there's no one here in Chambers for

3092
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:29,479
public comment Lynette I wanted to see

3093
02:17:29,479 --> 02:17:32,880
if anybody as we open a public comment

3094
02:17:32,880 --> 02:17:35,200
um is interested in making a comment on

3095
02:17:35,200 --> 02:17:38,439
zoom we're on session um item 8A the

3096
02:17:38,439 --> 02:17:40,399
study session on Transportation demand

3097
02:17:40,399 --> 02:17:43,719
management and parking reform um Lynette

3098
02:17:43,719 --> 02:17:46,120
do we have any people on Zoom who would

3099
02:17:46,120 --> 02:17:48,960
like to raise their hand and make there

3100
02:17:48,960 --> 02:17:51,760
are no hands raised at the moment

3101
02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:54,160
okay thanks we're going to hold it open

3102
02:17:54,160 --> 02:17:56,880
for another half minute or so we'd like

3103
02:17:56,880 --> 02:18:00,160
to create this cue on Zoom for folks who

3104
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:03,479
would like to speak and then um and have

3105
02:18:03,479 --> 02:18:05,000
waited to do so thank you for your

3106
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:07,960
patience if anyone might like to um you

3107
02:18:07,960 --> 02:18:11,200
could have two minutes um soft pedaling

3108
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:15,120
here uh is anyone now with their hand

3109
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:18,519
raised on Zoom Lynette there are none

3110
02:18:18,519 --> 02:18:22,240
okay with that um will um ask for a

3111
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:25,240
motion gu to close public

3112
02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:28,040
comment I move that we close public

3113
02:18:28,040 --> 02:18:32,240
comment thank you and a second I second

3114
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:36,120
thank you R call for Andrea commissioner

3115
02:18:36,120 --> 02:18:38,800
Bundy commissioner Anand yes

3116
02:18:38,800 --> 02:18:41,000
commissioner castanada yes Vice chair

3117
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:44,080
Garvey is excused chair Clemens yes

3118
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:46,399
thank you would any Commissioners like

3119
02:18:46,399 --> 02:18:49,719
to um uh leave any parting final

3120
02:18:49,719 --> 02:18:51,920
thoughts I know we could have taken

3121
02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:53,639
public comment earlier I apologize for

3122
02:18:53,639 --> 02:18:56,719
that but any last thoughts or

3123
02:18:56,719 --> 02:18:59,120
questions yeah commissioner Anand I'm

3124
02:18:59,120 --> 02:19:01,519
just going to end with the with the fact

3125
02:19:01,519 --> 02:19:03,880
about me I'm a big fan of Simplicity but

3126
02:19:03,880 --> 02:19:06,319
I would advocate for complexity in this

3127
02:19:06,319 --> 02:19:10,240
case um because our it I am also a fan

3128
02:19:10,240 --> 02:19:12,120
of learning from other successes so

3129
02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:14,479
thank you for doing that but our city is

3130
02:19:14,479 --> 02:19:17,120
also very unique in and of itself so we

3131
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:19,559
have pockets that are dense with schools

3132
02:19:19,559 --> 02:19:21,319
or we have more Senior Care centers or

3133
02:19:21,319 --> 02:19:23,200
we have a pocket line with condos or

3134
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:24,800
with the new affordable housing units

3135
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:28,439
coming up so just um as we review things

3136
02:19:28,439 --> 02:19:33,120
and as we create new ordinances or plans

3137
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:35,639
um I would just advocate for being a

3138
02:19:35,639 --> 02:19:38,000
little more mindful of the neighborhood

3139
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:39,800
as we create that just so we don't

3140
02:19:39,800 --> 02:19:42,719
generalize it too much and and leave

3141
02:19:42,719 --> 02:19:45,439
behind a certain set of populations and

3142
02:19:45,439 --> 02:19:48,040
thank you for all your

3143
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:50,880
work yeah I Echo that thank you very

3144
02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:54,120
much to staff and um to our Consultants

3145
02:19:54,120 --> 02:19:56,800
so randelle Brian Phil thank you so much

3146
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:58,640
for this evening's information

3147
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:00,680
appreciate

3148
02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:03,200
it okay with that we are on to agenda

3149
02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:05,399
item nine reports correspondence and

3150
02:20:05,399 --> 02:20:08,600
general information um first report on

3151
02:20:08,600 --> 02:20:11,160
any recent city council actions Andrea

3152
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:13,720
thank you uh on October 28th the council

3153
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:16,160
adopted a resolution uh to enter into

3154
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:17,840
design and Engineering drawings for

3155
02:20:17,840 --> 02:20:21,640
phase one of the downtown uh implement

3156
02:20:21,640 --> 02:20:24,399
exciting news moving along with that and

3157
02:20:24,399 --> 02:20:26,080
that is all I have to

3158
02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:28,960
report great thank you Item B planning

3159
02:20:28,960 --> 02:20:30,760
and Transportation Commission comments

3160
02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:32,800
or

3161
02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:38,429
reports none at this time okay item C

3162
02:20:38,439 --> 02:20:39,960
correspondence there is no

3163
02:20:39,960 --> 02:20:41,640
correspondence this evening okay thank

3164
02:20:41,640 --> 02:20:44,000
you and planning staff comments reports

3165
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:46,399
and updates of current projects so just

3166
02:20:46,399 --> 02:20:48,399
wanted to update the commission that the

3167
02:20:48,399 --> 02:20:50,479
meeting scheduled for December 2nd has

3168
02:20:50,479 --> 02:20:51,880
been been canceled we do not have any

3169
02:20:51,880 --> 02:20:54,200
items for that um we are planning on

3170
02:20:54,200 --> 02:20:57,720
having a meeting on the 16th um where PG

3171
02:20:57,720 --> 02:20:59,880
is coming forward um with their facility

3172
02:20:59,880 --> 02:21:02,479
on Industrial um for some improvements

3173
02:21:02,479 --> 02:21:04,760
in that area and I believe our principal

3174
02:21:04,760 --> 02:21:07,160
planner um rucha Dand will be uh running

3175
02:21:07,160 --> 02:21:09,640
the meeting that evening thank

3176
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:14,080
you thank you we'll be we'll welcome

3177
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:17,080
pg& very interesting and we are on to

3178
02:21:17,080 --> 02:21:20,200
agenda item 10 which is public comment

3179
02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:21,840
um public comment at this point is

3180
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:23,560
limited to items that are not on

3181
02:21:23,560 --> 02:21:25,520
tonight's agenda the commission may

3182
02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:27,160
briefly respond to statements made or

3183
02:21:27,160 --> 02:21:28,920
questions posed as Allowed by the brown

3184
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:32,640
act which is government code section 549

3185
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:35,000
54.2 however the commission's general

3186
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:37,319
policy is to refer items to staff for

3187
02:21:37,319 --> 02:21:39,399
attention or to have a matter placed on

3188
02:21:39,399 --> 02:21:41,520
a future commission agenda for a more

3189
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:44,960
comprehensive action or

3190
02:21:44,960 --> 02:21:48,040
report um so I don't see anyone in

3191
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:50,200
Chambers that wants to make a public

3192
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:51,240
comment

3193
02:21:51,240 --> 02:21:54,040
but those on Zoom if you would like to

3194
02:21:54,040 --> 02:21:55,680
make a public comment you would have two

3195
02:21:55,680 --> 02:21:58,120
minutes and you can raise your hand at

3196
02:21:58,120 --> 02:22:00,880
this time um or if you're joining by

3197
02:22:00,880 --> 02:22:03,040
phone you can press star n and Then star

3198
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:05,600
six to unmute Lynette are there any

3199
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:07,760
hands raised on Zoom for a public

3200
02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:10,640
comment there are none

3201
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:14,680
okay um do we still have attendees um on

3202
02:22:14,680 --> 02:22:19,399
Zoom at this time we have one okay well

3203
02:22:19,399 --> 02:22:20,960
we'll just pause for a minute in case

3204
02:22:20,960 --> 02:22:25,469
that one would like to make a public

3205
02:22:25,479 --> 02:22:28,479
comment okay any hands

3206
02:22:28,479 --> 02:22:32,560
up none none at this time thank you okay

3207
02:22:32,560 --> 02:22:36,000
we will close that and on to adjournment

3208
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:37,960
thank you all for being here tonight we

3209
02:22:37,960 --> 02:22:49,429
are

3210
02:22:49,439 --> 02:23:19,429
adjourned

3211
02:23:19,439 --> 02:23:23,479
e e