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It's got quiet.

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I call to order January 12th, 2026, city

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council successor agency to the re

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redevelopment agency housing authority

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regular meeting. Are there any

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teleconferences today? There are no

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teleconference announcements by city for

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this meeting. We'll go ahead and do our

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pledge of allegiance with Bren Acres

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Troop leading the pledge of allegiance

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number 62170.

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Girls ready.

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» Please stand for the pledge of

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allegiance. Place your right hand over

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your heart.

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>> It's over here.

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» It's over here.

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>> This way. I pledge aliance to the flag

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» This way. I pledge aliance to the flag

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of the United States of America and to

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the republic for which it stands, one

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nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Okay.

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Are there any um changes to the agenda

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tonight? We have none.

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>> Nothing from staff this evening, Madame

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» Nothing from staff this evening, Madame

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Mayor.

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>> Thank you, council. Any changes to the

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» Thank you, council. Any changes to the

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agenda?

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Um next is report from close session.

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Greg, do are there any to report from

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close session?

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>> There's no reportable action from close

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» There's no reportable action from close

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session. Madame Mayor,

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>> thank you.

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» thank you.

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>> Moving to section 8. Tonight, we'll be

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» Moving to section 8. Tonight, we'll be

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recognizing city city manager Jal Maltby

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upon his retirement from the city of San

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Carlos.

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We are honored to be joined this evening

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by local dignitaries who will each be

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presenting and sharing a few remarks.

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Um, we'll start with Nick Ly

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representing Congress and Kevin Mullen.

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» Thank you, council, and thank you to our

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new mayor. It's wonderful to see you

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here. I just had the privilege of moving

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back home, as I was telling you before I

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got up here.

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I grew up growing up back in 2001 on 16

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Shelton Avenue just down the block from

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Council Member Dugan. And to see what

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this city has become and to move here

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when it's at its greatest rise. And you

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sir came in 2011. So it's been 25 years

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that you've served. But as city manager,

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I've seen the city more people out and

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about, happier, healthier, thriving,

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more children and families created here

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in the city. And that's in large part

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due to your service. And on behalf of

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the congressman, on behalf of our

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office, in partnership with you and this

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wonderful council, we congratulate you

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on your service and your leadership to

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this wonderful city, which has really

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become a shining star along the

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peninsula. and we're really grateful for

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your service in conjunction with this

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wonderful council. So, thank you for

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having me. The congressman wishes he was

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here. He's in Washington fighting for

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you. Uh but we're going to continue to

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need your counsel, sir, and can continue

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to need your leadership because even if

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democracies dim on the national stage,

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it's the small actions of you, the small

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actions of our council that renew

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democracy and make it great for all of

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us. So, thank you very much and

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congratulations.

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I'd like to welcome Supervisor Ray

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Mueller. Ray, would you like to come up

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front?

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Very relaxed tonight.

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And uh and you should be. I I was going

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through the list. So, I have a

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resolution from the board of supervisors

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uh honoring your service here in St.

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Carlos. And I was going through the list

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of all the things that you've done, and

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it is just so incredibly impressive. And

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to think and and I see Ron and Mark, I

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to think I go back uh to when you first

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became city manager in 2011, that 2010

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time period, you were already with the

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city. And a lot of people uh who don't

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follow local government may not realize

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that the city was always not in the

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financial condition that it's in now.

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And uh you steadfastly led the city from

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that time period to now where it really

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is an economic beacon on the coast. It's

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so well, this city is so well managed

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and the finances of the city are so

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strong and you've built a foundation uh

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with the industry that you've brought

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here and you really have built a

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foundation here. You look in the

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downtown, you look at affordable

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housing, you look at all the components

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uh that we uh public policy look at in

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St. Carlos, they're strong across the

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board and you've done it in a way that

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the residents of this city have such a

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high quality of life and satisfaction

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with the city. Really is uh just a

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tremendous career to reflect upon and to

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look at for other policy makers, for

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other city managers to look at and say

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if we're going to do it, we're going to

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do it like Jeff did. So, I'm really uh

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I'm here today to congratulate you. We

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do have this resolution from the board

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of supervisors signed by the entire

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board that goes in the city's history in

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the in the county's history, excuse me.

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But just uh job well done, sir.

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» Thank you, Supervisor Mueller. So Jeff,

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we have something from the city also. If

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you'd like to join me up front, I can

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present it to you.

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Strategic here.

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It's on. Okay. Whereas, city manager

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Jeff Malby is retiring following a

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distinguished career of more than 30

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years in public service, including 25

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years of dedicated service to the city

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of San Carlos. And whereas Jeff Molfy

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began his tenure with the city in

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January 2021, 2001 as senior management

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analyst in the city manager's office.

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was promoted to deputy city manager in

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2005, became the city's first

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administrative supervisor director in

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2006, and was appointed city manager in

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2011 following his service as interim

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city manager. And whereas throughout his

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career, Jeff Malby has exemplified the

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values of collaboration, trust, and

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integrity, building a culture of

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professionalism and teamwork that

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resulted in a high, capable, and high

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tenured city staff. And whereas during a

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time of significant financial

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instability, Erin's leadership Jeff

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Malby guided the city through critical

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decisions including the outsourcing of

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police and fire services that is

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restored San Carlos to financial health

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and set the stage for long-term

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prosperity. And whereas under Jeff

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Malty's leadership, San Carlos enter a

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period of growth and stability marked by

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innovative public private partnerships

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such as Wheeler Plaza, expansion of

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affordable housing, new life science

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development, generating over 71 million

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in community benefits, major park and

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facility improvements, including fire

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station 16 and Shelton Park, and

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strategic financial planning that

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expanded the city's capital program and

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reduce long-term obligations. And

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whereas Jeff Maltby has championed

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strategic planning, transparency, and

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open communication, ensuring alignment

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between the city council, city staff,

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and the San Carlos community, a living

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and leaving a distinguished legacy of

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sound governance and shared vision. And

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whereas Jeff Malt Malty's wealth of

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institutional knowledge, creativity, and

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collaboration, spirit have steered San

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Carlos through both challenges and

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triumphs, always grounded in the staff

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commitment to acting in the best

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interests and community he served. Now,

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therefore, it be complained that I,

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Prina Venitesh, mayor of the city of San

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Carlos, on behalf of the entire city

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council and committee, do hereby express

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our deepest gratitude and appreciation

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to Jeff Malty is an exemplary

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leadership, integrity, and lasting

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contributions to the city of St. Carlos.

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Presenting the 12th day of January,

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2026.

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Thank you.

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Comments from the council now.

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Comments from councel.

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>> Council member Leighton.

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» Council member Leighton.

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>> Uh thank you. So Jeff, uh I find it

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» Uh thank you. So Jeff, uh I find it

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somewhat ironic that uh today we're

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presenting you with a proclamation

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mainly because anyone who has ever seen

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you at a hometown days parade knows that

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public recognition is not really your

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thing.

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Uh s want to take a moment to offer

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perspective on your career. Um one not

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from a council member, but one from a

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fellow fellow public servant who will

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likely spend their entire career in

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government as well. Uh those outside of

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public service often measure career by

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statistics, how many miles of roads we

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repaired, the size of the bud budgets

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you oversaw, the number of constituent

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emails answered, or the major capital

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projects completed. And although those

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numbers matter, they don't really tell

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the true story of your job. As a public

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servant, we know that the real work is

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fluid. A city manager is essentially the

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CEO of a multi-million dollar

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organization reporting to a board of

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directors that may change every two or

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four years. At the same times, the rules

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are con constantly shifting. State and

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federal regulations evolve, expectations

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change, and how you do the job today is

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no guarantee of how you'll do the job

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tomorrow. And yet, despite the goalposts

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constantly moving, you still have to

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show up every day and deliver on a

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long-term vision. one that should

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outlast any single manager, council

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member, or individual sitting up here

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today.

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Of everyone up here on the dis, I've had

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the shortest time working with you. But

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even in that limited time, I've been

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able to witness and learn from your

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passion and your respect for the craft

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of public service. You taught me that in

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government, process is just as important

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as ideas. You showed me that patience is

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often the only thing that allows a

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vision to become a reality. And perhaps

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most importantly, you help me understand

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that the role of a council member is not

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to undo the decisions made before us,

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but to improve them, guide them, and

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ultimately see them through. What many

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people may not realize is that someone

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who has devoted their entire career to

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public service and risen to the role

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that you've held was clearly built for

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it. Jeff, you were built for the

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especially long meetings uh for

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balancing diverse constituent interests

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with broader city goals and for working

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with new bosses of different

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backgrounds, perspectives, and

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priorities every few years. I know that

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you often say uh very convincingly when

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we talk that you are finished with

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government work. Uh while I wish you

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nothing but the very best in retirement,

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I hope it may not last that long. Uh

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cities will continue to need steadfast

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leadership, thoughtful guidance, and

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institutional wisdom. uh and you have

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proven all three. Thank you for your

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service to St. Carlos. Congratulations

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on a truly meaningful career and I hope

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we see you again.

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» Thank you, Council Member Leighton.

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Council member Dugan.

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>> Uh thank you, Madame Mayor. And uh yeah,

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» Uh thank you, Madame Mayor. And uh yeah,

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thank you, Jeff. Uh thank you from uh

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mostly the people of San Carlos for all

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of your steadfast leadership since you

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joined the city. Uh you know 2011 as

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city manager but you were with us

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several years before that as well. Um

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you know we have a great community here

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in San Carlos and a lot of it really

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does come down to the team that you put

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together and the leadership you've

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shown. Our city government here works

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well. Well, it it really is the u the

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the center of the engine that our

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community springs from and you've really

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been central to that. So, I really want

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to thank you from the people of San

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Carlos. Uh we have a very warm, open and

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decent place here and I think that

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describes your leadership style very

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well and uh and that has meant a lot to

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most of us in this room. So, uh we thank

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you for that and I just want to thank

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you personally. you know, I I was the

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council member that joined uh in the

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pandemic and uh uh kind of, you know,

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didn't even get a tour of the place. So,

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it was kind of hard for me to get

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oriented at first. Uh but from our very

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first meeting, uh you just, you know,

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late in your career, you decided you're

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just going to pour into all of us. I'm

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sure you were pouring into Neil uh the

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last couple years. And uh you you uh you

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know, thank you. you really helped bring

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me up to speed, I feel quickly. Uh you

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gave me the benefit of all of your

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decades of experience and uh and and we

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just had some really interesting deep

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conversations and I thank you for that.

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I um know a lot more uh than I did

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before I met you and uh I intend to keep

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using that for St. Carlos and you're

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leaving us now. Uh you know, we have

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great plans in place. So you and your

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team I in the last 3 four years we've

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literally replanned I believe every

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aspect of the city and uh so that's

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there that's and that is going to be

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your legacy as these plans uh come to

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fruition. So I I do hope you check in

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with us uh and let us know how it's

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going cuz uh I think it's going to be

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pretty fundamental. Uh you left us in

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great financial shape. that was not the

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case when you took this over and it

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really was your leadership um uh around

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some really tough issues, you know, the

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public safety issues, etc. And you

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really put us on on a new foundation and

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uh and you're leaving us with that. Uh

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but most importantly, uh you built a

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great culture here in in in our city

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government and you built a great team.

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So, thank you for that. Um uh job well

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done. Thank you, Jeff.

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Thank you, Council Member Dugan. Um,

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Council Member McDow.

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Thank you, Madame Mayor.

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Um, so I have known Jeff for about 10

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years now, going back to when I became a

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city commissioner on the Economic

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Development Advisory Commission. And

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what I immediately noticed at city hall

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reminded me a lot of what I had left

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behind in my federal government office.

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A close-knit staff who in many ways felt

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more like family than colleagues.

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Setting that tone starts at the top. And

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Jeff deserves great credit for building

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such a strong, dedicated, and smart team

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who work together to make our city a

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better place. Leaving behind a solid

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staff that you built up one by one is a

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huge legacy, Jeff. Jeff has seen our

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city through some really trying times. A

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budget crisis that he had to dig out of

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with the city council, which led to

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moving away from our city's own fire and

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police department. But out of that

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incredibly hard decision grew a strong

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partnership with Redwood City Fire and

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the county sheriff's office. Jeff

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created a new model that other cities

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then followed. This move saved the city

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a lot of money, restored our healthy

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budget, and enabled us to focus on

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meeting more needs in our community.

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He then managed the PG& line 147 crisis

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with led which led to a settlement that

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allowed us to create our own unique

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community foundation that is doing a lot

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of good work in our city now.

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Jeff then led the San Carlos through the

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pandemic during some very dark and

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uncertain times, but that also led to

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San Carlos being the first city in the

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county to pedestrianize our main street,

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expand parklets, and support our

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downtown businesses. And now we have a

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plan in place to make our downtown even

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better.

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What I think these three examples show,

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and I'm sure there are countless others,

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is that Jeff met hard times with a can

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do attitude and creativity.

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He did not stop. We didn't close the

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doors. He and our staff dug into the

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work, supported our community, and

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positive improvements came from really

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tough times. We came out of dark days

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and found bright new opportunities.

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So, thank you, Jeff, for working so hard

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for the residents of San Carlos. Being a

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city manager means you are always on.

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You get all the midnight texts and phone

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calls when bad things happen. You are

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the fixer and the solution maker. It is

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a huge ask for anyone to take on such a

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stressful job. The city becomes another

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family member that you must worry about

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and care for. But you did a stellar job

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and you created an incredible team who

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will continue your work here. You have

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overseen giant leaps of forward progress

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in our town and we owe you just a huge

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debt of gratitude. So, thank you for all

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of your dedication and for all of your

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service to our city.

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» Thank you, Vice Mayor Rack.

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>> Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um,

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» Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um,

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so I'm I tend to be a little more off

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the cuff, Jeff, so you'll have to bear

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with me on that. Um, but first I just

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want to say thank you. I I think to

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start with it, and I think we all owe

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you a thank you. Um, we are certainly I

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think Supervisor Mueller kind of hinted

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at it. We are sort of the envy of many

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cities in this county and around the Bay

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Area.

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you've taken us through some difficult

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times, but we've done some really

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amazing things around housing, the

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downtown, uh, parks and wreck, and

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you've kind of given us the, I think, on

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the council standpoint, the ability to

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have just enough leash to do things. Um,

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but, you know, keeping us, you know, in

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check to make sure that we're not sort

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of overstepping and doing things that

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might u not be as successful and as as

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as we could be. But um and I think as I

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think about our staff, we have so many

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senior staff, so many people that stick

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around. You don't see a lot of turnover

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in San Carlos with staff. And that's a

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testament to you and the work you do. Um

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I think I would I think a lot of people

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would want to be a fly in the wall and

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follow you around for a day or two and

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and understand how things work and and

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how things get done because a lot of it

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happens behind the scenes and before you

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know it, things have changed. And it's

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not just here in the city, but it's

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working with our partners like the

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school district. Um I think just a few

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years ago how we were you were able to

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create a good solution with them from a

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financial standpoint with Alexandria and

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others and really out of the box

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thinking that um really is a credit to

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you and I think about it. You came up

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with this idea and then you kind of step

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back and let us take credit for it. So

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um really you should stand up and take

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more credit for um all the great things

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that you've done. But um I'll certainly

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I think personally just miss sitting in

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your office and spending the time to

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talk through ideas

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um talk about what's possible and what's

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not possible and uh really through the

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challenges that we're having and being

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able to kind of work through how to

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approach things and what's what could

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happen and what could be done and how

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maybe to think about ideas. Um cuz I

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know sometimes I'll come with you and

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say here Jeeoff I have these five things

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I'd love to do and you know I'll walk

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away with like okay those four are never

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going to work but this one might. Um so

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I really appreciate that and that you

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know I hope uh we can continue to do

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that. I'll even come up to Pacifica and

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buy you a beer up there to do that. Um

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but it's really been an honor to work

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with you. Um, and I'm going to miss

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working with you and uh I think you

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should be proud of all you've done and

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uh I think you're leaving the city in a

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place that we can live up to our motto

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as the city of good living. So, thank

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you.

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» Okay. Thank you, Vice Mayor Rack. Um,

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let's move to public comment. If you'd

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like to make a public comment on this

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item, please fill out a speaker slip in

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the back of the room and turn it over to

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our city clerk. If you're joining us via

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Zoom, you may raise your hand at any

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time. We'll take the first comments in

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the room and then move on to remote

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attendees. Crystal, do you have any

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speaker slips?

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>> Yes, I do have a few for in person. Um,

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» Yes, I do have a few for in person. Um,

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first up is David Buruto from Assembly

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Member Diane Papin's office. Welcome.

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Good evening, madame mayor.

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Congratulations members of the council

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and our esteemed staff and departing

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city manager. Um, here representing

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something for Dian Papin and Senator

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Josh Becker. Do have a big glass thing

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for you, but it's delayed. So, I'm going

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to have to bring it to Pacifica. So, I'm

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going to join you in that beer.

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>> Taco Bell.

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» Taco Bell.

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>> It's the best Taco Bell in the United

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» It's the best Taco Bell in the United

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States.

540
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Uh I just wanted to come here real quick

541
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,880
because uh you know Jeff you've been you

542
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,399
have a long tenure here actually an

543
00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:30,960
unusually long tenure for a city and

544
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,559
I've been able to watch you for a long

545
00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:35,519
time and how you've guided the city and

546
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,399
you know being a the CEO it's a tough

547
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:40,799
gig you know because unlike a corporate

548
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:44,159
CEO you also have the public you also

549
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:45,919
get buffeted by the state and federal

550
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:47,919
government. We do lots of stuff you

551
00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:50,399
sometimes don't love.

552
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:54,080
Um, so it's a complicated job and with a

553
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,440
publicly elected board, which is

554
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,519
different than a corporate board, uh,

555
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,480
you have to be responding to, you know,

556
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,320
a council that has to be responsive to

557
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,480
the public. You know, Adam, what you

558
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,159
said I thought was very funny because I

559
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:08,000
can imagine the conversations you had to

560
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,560
have of, you know, Adam, that's a great

561
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:11,919
idea. Let's talk about the time and

562
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:14,000
resources it takes to do that. Or, let

563
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,480
me tell you why that's a bad idea.

564
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,000
And you have to have those conversations

565
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,359
diplomatically, right? you have to

566
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,599
manage up.

567
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:24,159
And St. Carlos, yes, is a model for

568
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,280
Sonteo County. It is a really well-run

569
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,079
city. And that's largely thanks to your

570
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:31,520
tenure and your your thoughtful

571
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,040
guidance.

572
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,359
So, yes, you're going to probably miss

573
00:34:35,359 --> 00:34:36,879
your city manager, although I know the

574
00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:39,679
Dan is quite capable and skilled and has

575
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,159
been working here for a long time. So, I

576
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,639
trust you're in good hands. And you're a

577
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,200
great board, so, you know, I think that

578
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,119
helps as well.

579
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:52,560
So to Jeff uh really you know from the

580
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,079
regional perspective as well thank you

581
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,560
very much for your service to San Carlos

582
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,440
but also to Sanonteo County. Uh you've

583
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,960
done a great job and provided a good

584
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,640
model for the rest of us to follow. So

585
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,400
thank you so much and we'll see you in

586
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:13,589
Pacifica real soon.

587
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,640
Okay, next up is uh Jennifer Fentes from

588
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,800
the school board uh school district and

589
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,079
then we'll have um Mark Ober and Ron

590
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,520
Collins.

591
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,510
>> Thank you, Madame Mayor and uh city

592
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:25,520
» Thank you, Madame Mayor and uh city

593
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,839
council for letting me be here to

594
00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:30,480
celebrate Jeff. Um congratulations on

595
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,599
your retirement. Um impressive uh list

596
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:36,320
of career accomplishments. Um but I'm

597
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,240
here to talk about the small moments.

598
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,599
Not only have you been a friend to a

599
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:41,119
district, but when I was a new

600
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:43,119
superintendent, uh you made time to

601
00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:46,480
coach me, to fill me in on the past and

602
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,880
uh a legacy uh that you're leaving is

603
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,480
also all of the ways in which you

604
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,800
invested in my success, which has really

605
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,640
contributed to the success of our

606
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,000
district. So, thank you so much for

607
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:03,670
that.

608
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,400
So, former San Carlos mayors Mark Obert

609
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:14,870
and Ron Collins.

610
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,240
» No, no, no. We'll let the better dress

611
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:19,280
guy go first.

612
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,069
>> All right. Uh well uh Mark and I have a

613
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:22,079
» All right. Uh well uh Mark and I have a

614
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:25,920
just a little gift for for Jeff. But I

615
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,839
think the thing that I want to say is

616
00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:31,839
that uh in 40 years this town has had

617
00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:35,040
three city managers and only three.

618
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,560
There are many cities surrounding us

619
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,400
that have had many many more than that.

620
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,240
One city had one that left after a

621
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,079
month. Can you imagine how what that was

622
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:45,839
like? But I also feel fortunate that I

623
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:48,320
spent my entire 13 years on the council

624
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,599
with one city manager.

625
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,720
It was Jeff. And I cannot even begin to

626
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:57,440
describe how valuable that was. Uh Adam

627
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,599
talked about a fly on the wall. Because

628
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:01,680
Jeff's wife was the city manager. I

629
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,359
always wanted to be a fly on the wall in

630
00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:06,160
their dining room at dinner time when

631
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,520
they were talking about what was going

632
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,119
on in Daily City and San Carlos. But uh

633
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,440
I made a lot of uh most of what I want

634
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,760
to say I I said last month. And uh I

635
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,280
just want to say thank you again, Jeff.

636
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,079
Uh you know, your service here and to me

637
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:22,800
personally uh means more than I can even

638
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,040
I can even say. So I'll leave it up to

639
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,960
Mark for more. Thank you, Ron. U good

640
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,520
evening, Mayor Venitesh and Vice Mayor

641
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,359
Rack or Mayor of Vice Rack. I always get

642
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:34,560
that confused.

643
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,910
>> I answer both.

644
00:37:35,910 --> 00:37:35,920
» I answer both.

645
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,430
>> There you go. And the rest of the

646
00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:37,440
» There you go. And the rest of the

647
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,520
council. Uh, as Ron mentioned at the

648
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,760
end, we were each here last month and

649
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,960
made more lengthy remarks, uh, which I

650
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,040
definitely still stand behind. Um, but

651
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,720
tonight we actually wanted to show up

652
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,440
and present Jeff with a little, uh,

653
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,680
momento that we put together. There are

654
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,440
still pieces of it that are in the mail,

655
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,680
unfortunately, but a number of, uh,

656
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,839
former mayors who are, uh, no longer

657
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:02,000
here uh, wanted to leave you some

658
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,520
testimonials, so we've put them

659
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,400
together. Um, and um, I'm just going to

660
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,640
read uh, the introductory piece here

661
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,320
because I think it summarizes a lot of

662
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,320
what everybody's been saying tonight. To

663
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,880
Jeff Malty, who served the San Carlos

664
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,040
community and council so well, many

665
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,359
didn't realize he was on the job and

666
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:21,760
just took for granted how safe and fun

667
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,480
the city was on his watch. Thank you for

668
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:34,069
your service, sir.

669
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,839
Oh, and there's there's one other thing

670
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:38,560
I got you. You inspired me after uh our

671
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,079
little exchange at the end of my

672
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,119
comments last month. Um this is uh you

673
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,800
won't have to report this to on form

674
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,160
700. So um this is a little something

675
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,079
that you may find useful when you need

676
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,160
to project leadership in another

677
00:38:52,160 --> 00:39:02,710
environment.

678
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,720
Thank you. Um, those are the only slips

679
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:06,640
I have for in person, but if you uh

680
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,000
you're here and you'd like to make a

681
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,400
comment, now would be a good time.

682
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,870
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh, and there are no

683
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:12,880
» Okay. Thank you. Uh, and there are no

684
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,280
hands on Zoom.

685
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,430
>> Thank you, Crystal.

686
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:17,440
» Thank you, Crystal.

687
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,200
Um, thank you everyone for

688
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,390
>> Could I just say one thing?

689
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:20,400
» Could I just say one thing?

690
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,190
>> Of course.

691
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:21,200
» Of course.

692
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,190
>> Um, I don't know if this is out of

693
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:23,200
» Um, I don't know if this is out of

694
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,880
order, but I wanted to get in there in

695
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,520
front of Jeff. Um, I guess this I could

696
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,280
say this is like a bit of a closing

697
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,720
argument. Um, I wish I'd like to I wish

698
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,880
I could encapsulate all the wise words

699
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,800
that everyone has said here. It was they

700
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,160
were so wonderful and on point. Um Jeff

701
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,359
and I have worked together actually

702
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:45,599
since 2001 really because I was the

703
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:47,920
deputy city attorney that um the whole

704
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,880
time and I remember um lots of things

705
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,520
that we talked about and lots of advice

706
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,920
that I've given him and lots of wise

707
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,880
words that he's given me. Uh but mostly

708
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,720
um I'd like to share them, but they're

709
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:02,320
most of them are attorney cl privilege

710
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,520
and I I can't talk about them, but but

711
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,839
uh Jeff um has proven to me that he's

712
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:10,640
the type of leader that

713
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,839
uh any city would want to have. Um he

714
00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:15,520
was wise,

715
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,839
especially when when under pressure in a

716
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:21,280
crisis. He was so

717
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,400
uh thoughtful and calm and really when

718
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,880
we would talk about things that that

719
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,280
were um affecting the city, we both um

720
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,200
worked together and Jeff, he was the

721
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,440
manager. He made the decisions. I was

722
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,680
the just the adviser and Jeff, I think

723
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,560
every time made the right decision. So,

724
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,839
I'd like to congratulate Jeff on his

725
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:51,680
time with the city and I'd like to say

726
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,760
that he's been a great friend of mine

727
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,480
and thank you very much, Jeff. And I

728
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,079
hope you have a great retirement. You've

729
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:07,670
earned it.

730
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,040
Um, it's a lot to take in. Thank you.

731
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,640
Thank you all. You know, I've hadve been

732
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560
planning this for a while, so I've had a

733
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,480
good amount of time to think about it

734
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,520
and came to the realization that um

735
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680
there really isn't any way to say

736
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,520
goodbye to a place that I've worked for

737
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,480
half my life really and a profession

738
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,800
that I've been involved in for as long

739
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,440
as I can remember. Um, you know, I mean,

740
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,359
I literally watched Sesame Street and

741
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:40,880
council meetings at the same time

742
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,319
growing up.

743
00:41:42,319 --> 00:41:43,839
Um

744
00:41:43,839 --> 00:41:47,200
I there was no time in my life that um

745
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,480
city hall wasn't present. Um the Santa

746
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Clara County and San Monteo County have

747
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,400
been huge parts of my life. Um Mike

748
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,520
Nevin married Shauna and I

749
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:05,040
in Halfoon Bay. And um so I thought it's

750
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,760
not really a goodbye. It's it's that's

751
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,520
not what I want to do. I want to just

752
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,480
simply express my gratitude. Um, you

753
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,000
know,

754
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,920
I'm really proud of the work that we've

755
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,599
done here. I've worked with I think

756
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:18,960
seven I think Neil, you're I think

757
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,119
you're like my 17th council member as a

758
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:23,520
city manager and 20some since I've

759
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,240
worked with the city and they've all

760
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,640
been really good people and um the

761
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,119
community has been just wonderful to

762
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,839
work with. Um, you know, I mean there's

763
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:35,760
you never get agreement on everything

764
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,920
but um and that's fine. that's that's

765
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,560
government and that's democracy. Um but

766
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,720
the disagreements in San Carlos were

767
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:46,400
always, you know, really good and um

768
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,240
people could get along and people could

769
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,560
accept decisions and make the best of

770
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,240
them. Um whether it was the council, the

771
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,319
staff or the community and I really

772
00:42:54,319 --> 00:42:56,079
appreciated that and and all the

773
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:57,599
different councils that I've had over

774
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:01,280
the years, including this council. Um,

775
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,440
you know, while, you know, we've agreed

776
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440
on a great great many things and

777
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,079
disagreed on a few, there was never a

778
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,560
single city council that I worked for

779
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,880
that when the chips were really down and

780
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,200
things were, you know, grim and we had a

781
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,079
real serious problem to deal with that I

782
00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:20,319
even for a second didn't feel like had

783
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:23,520
my back and the staff's back. And you

784
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400
know th it's really that level of

785
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,440
partnership that allows you as staff

786
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,119
people and and I'm sure as probably

787
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:33,280
council too. It empowers you to be able

788
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
to do the right thing to try to do the

789
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,520
right thing because the right thing is

790
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,359
not always the politically expedient

791
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:41,040
thing. It's not always the comfortable

792
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,839
thing. Um sometimes the right thing is

793
00:43:43,839 --> 00:43:45,599
going to lead through some deep dark

794
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,160
woods. And we've had plenty of those

795
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,640
over the years. And we really we really

796
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,359
were, I thought, a great team when those

797
00:43:53,359 --> 00:43:55,839
things came up. And I will be forever

798
00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:58,880
grateful to all the uh men and women

799
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,480
that served on the San Carlos City

800
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,520
Council during my tenure um with the

801
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,079
city. Um the the city staff, I mean,

802
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:11,119
what can I say? Um you know, this this

803
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,119
current management team, I many of us

804
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,839
have been together for a long time.

805
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:17,359
uh many of the staff members have been

806
00:44:17,359 --> 00:44:20,079
together for a long time and uh those

807
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:24,400
that have retired or moved on already um

808
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,640
you know are always in my thoughts too.

809
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,040
Um you know Chris Chris Valley sitting

810
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,400
here is one of the few people in the

811
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:31,599
city that's been here longer than I

812
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:34,720
have. We were just kids Chris we we

813
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:38,960
didn't know how good we had it. Um,

814
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,880
you know, all the accomplishments, all

815
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,640
the accolades, all you know, that's

816
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,880
always the, you know, I personally, I

817
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,200
mean, as the council pointed out, you

818
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,200
know, accolades are not my thing. Um, I

819
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,960
appreciate them. You get them as the

820
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,880
city manager, you know. I mean, I guess

821
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,480
that's the balance because when things

822
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,560
go wrong, it's it's your name that

823
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,319
that's on the front page of the paper,

824
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:03,680
too. Um, but it's, you know, it's really

825
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,440
been the team. you know, you all have uh

826
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,160
taken such good care of me over the

827
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,960
years. Um, you know, I I just have

828
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,160
complete trust and faith in in your

829
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,880
abilities and just the people that you

830
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,200
are. Um, there's a lot of people out

831
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,920
there that that can do the kind of work

832
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,119
that we do. Every city has a staff. Um

833
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:31,599
but you are all really good people and

834
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:35,200
um I have really enjoyed my time with

835
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,040
you so very much and really been honored

836
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,200
uh to be the leader of the of the city

837
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,160
organization. Um, but at the end of the

838
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,440
day, you know, when it can be very

839
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,359
overwhelming at times, you know, there's

840
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:53,119
a fire in this department, there's

841
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:54,960
something going wrong over here, there,

842
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,560
you know, whatever. We're trying to

843
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,200
pushing hard for deadlines and those

844
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,720
kinds of things. There's a lot of things

845
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:03,599
that can really keep you up at night.

846
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:06,720
Um, but the one thing that always

847
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:09,040
allowed me to be able to go to sleep at

848
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,960
night was knowing how good my staff was

849
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,599
and how you would do whatever you needed

850
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:18,880
to do um to get that result for our

851
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,040
organization and our community and and

852
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,599
the community is is really really lucky

853
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,119
to have you. Um, you know, in many ways

854
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,640
I'm sorry to be leaving you. Um, but I

855
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,760
know that you all are going to go on and

856
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,920
continue to do great things for this

857
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,000
city and great things within this

858
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,480
profession for, you know, as far as your

859
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,680
careers take you. Um, you're really a

860
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,400
bunch of very talented people. I'm, you

861
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,800
know, really lucky to be able to count

862
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,720
so many of you as friends. Um,

863
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:56,160
and I hope that u in the future that our

864
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,079
relationship can continue. Um, most

865
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,829
importantly to my wife Shauna. Um,

866
00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:08,079
wow.

867
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:10,319
I mean, we met through local government.

868
00:47:10,319 --> 00:47:12,560
We were married by local government. It

869
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,680
was super weird to run two cities from a

870
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,240
third city in Sonteo County during COVID

871
00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:22,000
from our living room. Um,

872
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,680
you know, you having you there, you gave

873
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,680
me great advice over the years. Um, you

874
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,800
know, every every time some other city

875
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,880
would come courting and I'd think, uh,

876
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,560
it's a little bit bigger, it's a little

877
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,040
bit, you'd say, why? And remind me of

878
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,000
exactly what I had.

879
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,400
And I am so grateful for that as well as

880
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,240
a lot of really good advice when I was

881
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,240
about to do something stupid at work. So

882
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,960
you have Shauna to thank as much as you

883
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,480
as much as me probably more. Um but it's

884
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,280
really been an honor to to be a part of

885
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,560
the San Carers community for so long and

886
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,760
um I'm going to miss you all. So thank

887
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:32,870
you. And uh Nile, you're up.

888
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,000
Thank you, Jeff. Um, when during our

889
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,920
weekly calls, I'd say, "What are you

890
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,839
doing this weekend, Jeff?" He'd always

891
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,960
say, "Oh, my honeydew list." So, I hope

892
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,160
your honeydew list gets filled with more

893
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,400
honeydew list.

894
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,720
Um, okay. We're going to go to item six,

895
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,800
council of communications.

896
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,670
I'll let people leave if you'd like.

897
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,760
Announcements. Um, council of

898
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,280
communications and announcements are

899
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,880
brief items from members of the city

900
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,280
council regarding upcoming events in the

901
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,520
community and correspondence that they

902
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,599
have received. They areformational in

903
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:11,440
nature and no action will be taken on

904
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,920
these items at this meeting. Anything

905
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,400
for my colleagues? Crystal, any hands

906
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,670
raised?

907
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,520
» Oh, sorry.

908
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,030
>> Um, council member Leighton.

909
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:23,040
» Um, council member Leighton.

910
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,470
>> Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh, just one

911
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:24,480
» Thank you, Madam Mayor. Uh, just one

912
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,880
thing for my colleagues. Um, we received

913
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,800
a presentation at Silicon Valley Clean

914
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,760
Water at our last meeting in regards to

915
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,440
um there's a push now mandate to have

916
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,280
more recycled water. So, Silicon Valley

917
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,319
Clean Water is looking into um what's

918
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,160
called the Peninsula Pure Water Program,

919
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,559
which would be the SFPU.

920
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:49,119
Um would then be uh pumping water and

921
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,040
then purifying it to a pure standard and

922
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,359
then pumping it back into uh Crystal

923
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:54,800
Springs Reservoir. I only mentioned this

924
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,800
for council as uh what it would be is as

925
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,599
we think about um building and Purple

926
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:03,599
Pipe historically, this would probably

927
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:05,760
change to more indirect system. uh if

928
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,440
that's something where you would go to

929
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,200
in our considerations and how it would

930
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,000
reflect um in regards to if we wanted

931
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,480
new construction to work on Purple Pipe.

932
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,960
Uh if it's going to be pumped back into

933
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,559
uh Crystal Springs and Pure Water, then

934
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:20,000
it may be a different analysis for us,

935
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,760
but something to keep our eyes out down

936
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,910
the road.

937
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,119
» Thank you, M Council Member Leighton. Um

938
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:30,800
I don't have anything. Next is public

939
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,640
comment.

940
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,670
Do you have anything? No.

941
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,280
Persons wishing to address city council

942
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,680
on matters not on the posted agenda may

943
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,000
do so. Each speaker is limited to two

944
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,240
minutes. If you if the item you are

945
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,720
speaking on is not listed on the agenda,

946
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,720
please be advised. The city council may

947
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,040
briefly respond to statements, but no

948
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,800
questions posed or allowed under the

949
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,520
Brown Act. We will start with public

950
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,280
comments in the room and then move on to

951
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,599
online comments. Once we begin taking

952
00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:03,760
public comments on Zoom, we will not be

953
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,599
allowing additional commenters to join

954
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,520
the queue. So, please be sure to raise

955
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,920
your hand now so that you have a turn to

956
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,240
speak. Crystal, is there anyone wishing

957
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:13,040
to speak?

958
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,430
>> Yes, I have a slip for in person uh from

959
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:15,440
» Yes, I have a slip for in person uh from

960
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,390
Dr. Frentice.

961
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,720
again to uh madame mayor and the city

962
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,880
council members. I'm here on behalf of

963
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,200
the San Carlos School District and the

964
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,240
uh board of directors to congratulate

965
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:33,520
Mayor Venites. Um our district has a

966
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,839
strong commitment to equity and

967
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:37,599
elevating celebrating the diversity

968
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,520
within our community and so we're really

969
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,839
proud to see you sitting in the DAS in

970
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:44,000
this position. Um personally for me to

971
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,160
see strong women in leadership is a

972
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,400
great model for our youngsters. Um, and

973
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,920
so congratulations to you. And, uh, we

974
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,599
also know that it's nice for our

975
00:51:53,599 --> 00:51:55,839
students to see themselves represented

976
00:51:55,839 --> 00:51:58,400
in the community at large. And so I'd

977
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,079
like to invite all of the city council

978
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:02,800
members to be judges for a thing that we

979
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,319
do in St. Carlos School District called

980
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:06,720
the ropes. It's right of passage

981
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,280
experiences. Um, I will be following up

982
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,440
with an invite from Ashley Brown, who is

983
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,599
our teacher leader who oversees this.

984
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:15,200
It's an opportunity to learn about the

985
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,119
great projects that kids uh they

986
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:18,960
investigate on their own and then they

987
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,839
present to a judge, a couple of judges

988
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:23,760
and we need judges. So I'll push this

989
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,839
out and invite any of you to participate

990
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:29,040
and again my congratulations.

991
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,430
>> Thank you. I signed up so I'm good.

992
00:52:33,430 --> 00:52:33,440
» Thank you. I signed up so I'm good.

993
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,670
>> Uh is there anybody else in person who

994
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:35,680
» Uh is there anybody else in person who

995
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,680
would like to speak?

996
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,559
Okay, seeing none. Uh and there are no

997
00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:44,400
hands on Zoom. Thank you.

998
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,359
Item nine is consent calendar. Um, are

999
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:48,880
there any items council would like to

1000
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,480
pull?

1001
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,390
>> Madame Mayor, I would like to pull item

1002
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:52,400
» Madame Mayor, I would like to pull item

1003
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,920
L from the consent calendar concerning

1004
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,359
the library maker space.

1005
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:04,790
>> Thank you. Um, Council Member Dugan.

1006
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,200
» Um, I can go ahead and and move to

1007
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,119
approve city council consent calendar

1008
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,880
items A through K and M.

1009
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,069
I'll second.

1010
00:53:18,079 --> 00:53:19,280
» Crystal, will you call a roll?

1011
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,109
>> Yes. Uh, council member Dugan,

1012
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:21,119
» Yes. Uh, council member Dugan,

1013
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:21,430
>> yes.

1014
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:21,440
» yes.

1015
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,470
>> Council member Leighton,

1016
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:22,480
» Council member Leighton,

1017
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:22,950
>> yes.

1018
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:22,960
» yes.

1019
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,549
>> Council member McDall,

1020
00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:24,559
» Council member McDall,

1021
00:53:24,559 --> 00:53:24,950
>> yes.

1022
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:24,960
» yes.

1023
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,150
>> Vice Mayor Rack,

1024
00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:26,160
» Vice Mayor Rack,

1025
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:26,950
>> yes.

1026
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:26,960
» yes.

1027
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,829
>> And yes,

1028
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:27,839
» And yes,

1029
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:30,150
>> thank you. And Mayor Venites,

1030
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:30,160
» thank you. And Mayor Venites,

1031
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,870
>> yes. Thank you.

1032
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:32,880
» yes. Thank you.

1033
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,349
>> And thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, I, you

1034
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:35,359
» And thank you, Madame Mayor. Um, I, you

1035
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:37,920
know, obviously very supportive of our

1036
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,880
new maker space, but since it's I think

1037
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,000
we had 800 pages of design specs in our

1038
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,160
council packet, I just wanted to pull

1039
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,000
this item to highlight it a little bit.

1040
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,640
And uh, for the community, it'll be uh,

1041
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,880
this is a maker space that has been

1042
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,640
designed and will be installed in the

1043
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:58,160
coming months in our library. And I we

1044
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,960
just haven't had a discussion or any um,

1045
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,119
visibility on on what this is going to

1046
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:04,640
look like. And as I looked through the

1047
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,240
plans, I thought I saw elements of of um

1048
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:11,520
uh both STEM and creative uh uh maker

1049
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,920
space aspects, but I just wanted to

1050
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,760
hopefully hear from staff on a little

1051
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,920
bit more color on how this design was

1052
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,160
developed and h who it's intending to

1053
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,319
serve, etc.

1054
00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:24,870
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh we have Adrien Guas,

1055
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:24,880
» Okay. Thank you. Uh we have Adrien Guas,

1056
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,880
our new San Carlos Library branch

1057
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,960
manager with us this evening to uh speak

1058
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,990
a little bit more about this project.

1059
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,280
Hello. Good evening, um, Mayor Benitesh

1060
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,640
and members of the council. Um, thanks

1061
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,440
for, uh, asking about the maker space.

1062
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,800
I'm thrilled to share with you the

1063
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,880
exciting plans that we have for the new

1064
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,920
community maker space. Um, we hope that

1065
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,839
the maker space will be a vibrant hub

1066
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:54,160
where community members can gather,

1067
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,559
collaborate, and engage in enriching

1068
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:59,200
maker activities. It will be a place to

1069
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,319
cultivate steam skills. uh spark

1070
00:55:02,319 --> 00:55:04,720
creativity and inspire innovative

1071
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:07,280
problem solving. After a comprehensive

1072
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,079
planning and community input process, we

1073
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:11,760
are very excited to be at the

1074
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,640
construction phase of the project. This

1075
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,559
project enjoys broad support from the

1076
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,240
community, including from the friends of

1077
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:20,640
the library who have pledged over

1078
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,000
$100,000 towards the maker space. Um,

1079
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,400
one of the reasons that this project has

1080
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,079
so much interest and is highly

1081
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:30,160
anticipated by the community is because

1082
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,160
the project was developed through an

1083
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,280
intensive community engagement process.

1084
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,920
In November 2023, working with the city,

1085
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,040
the library engaged WRNS studio

1086
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,880
architectural firm and launched the

1087
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:44,960
community engagement process, which

1088
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,960
involved focus groups, community

1089
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,280
meetings, and surveys to align the

1090
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,559
design with community input. The design

1091
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,880
input provided by the community was then

1092
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,599
considered by a makerpace design task

1093
00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:59,839
force which included the library and

1094
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:02,400
city staff and representation from the

1095
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,400
friends of the San Carlos Library who

1096
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,400
worked together with the architect to

1097
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,359
develop the final design. Um I want to

1098
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:11,200
express gratitude to the strong

1099
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,119
collaboration and teamwork between the

1100
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,280
library, friends of the library and the

1101
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,680
city. And I'd also like to acknowledge

1102
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,240
uh the library JPA governing board for

1103
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,480
approval of this project and especially

1104
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,960
council member McDow's work as a member

1105
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,280
of the library JPA to move the project

1106
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,520
forward. We're thrilled to see the

1107
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,280
community's vision come to life with

1108
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,520
today's approval of this item and thank

1109
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,359
you for your community or your continued

1110
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:37,680
support and partnership in making the

1111
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,559
maker space a reality.

1112
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,390
>> Yeah, thank you very much for that

1113
00:56:42,390 --> 00:56:42,400
» Yeah, thank you very much for that

1114
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,880
overview. I I I really appreciated that

1115
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,640
and hearing more about how the project

1116
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,040
was developed and I know it came last

1117
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,559
minute. So, thank you. I really

1118
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:51,760
appreciate it.

1119
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,630
>> Thank you.

1120
00:56:52,630 --> 00:56:52,640
» Thank you.

1121
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,470
>> And and with that, Madame Mayor, I would

1122
00:56:54,470 --> 00:56:54,480
» And and with that, Madame Mayor, I would

1123
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,720
move to approve city council consent

1124
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:00,000
calendar item L.

1125
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,870
>> I'll second.

1126
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:02,880
» I'll second.

1127
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,309
>> You have to take public comment, don't

1128
00:57:04,309 --> 00:57:04,319
» You have to take public comment, don't

1129
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:04,559
we?

1130
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:06,950
>> Public comment.

1131
00:57:06,950 --> 00:57:06,960
» Public comment.

1132
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,789
>> Yes. I do not have any slips for in

1133
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:08,799
» Yes. I do not have any slips for in

1134
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:11,280
person. I don't see any hands and there

1135
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,200
are no hands on Zoom. Thank you.

1136
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,870
>> We have a motion and a second. Crystal,

1137
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:14,880
» We have a motion and a second. Crystal,

1138
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:16,799
can you please call roll?

1139
00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:18,390
>> Council member Mcdow,

1140
00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:18,400
» Council member Mcdow,

1141
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:18,950
>> yes.

1142
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:18,960
» yes.

1143
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,069
>> Vice Mayor Rack,

1144
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:20,079
» Vice Mayor Rack,

1145
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:20,549
>> yes.

1146
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:20,559
» yes.

1147
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:21,670
>> Council member Dugan,

1148
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:21,680
» Council member Dugan,

1149
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:21,990
>> yes.

1150
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:22,000
» yes.

1151
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,950
>> Council member Leighton,

1152
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:22,960
» Council member Leighton,

1153
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,270
>> yes.

1154
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:23,280
» yes.

1155
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,549
>> And Mayor Venites,

1156
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:24,559
» And Mayor Venites,

1157
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:24,950
>> yes.

1158
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:24,960
» yes.

1159
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:25,270
>> Thank you.

1160
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:25,280
» Thank you.

1161
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,670
>> The Go ahead.

1162
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:27,680
» The Go ahead.

1163
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:32,150
>> The motion passes.

1164
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,710
» Okay.

1165
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:45,109
Okay. Item 10, new business.

1166
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:49,119
I'm Yeah, I'm going to um out of bend

1167
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:50,400
some of caution. I'm going to recuse

1168
00:57:50,400 --> 00:58:14,230
myself from this motion.

1169
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,280
All right. Uh, good evening, vice mayor,

1170
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,960
uh, members of the city council. My name

1171
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,799
is Andrew Douglas, and I'm a senior

1172
00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:22,240
management analyst in the community

1173
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,480
development department. I'm here this

1174
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,760
evening to present staff's

1175
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,680
recommendations for funding through the

1176
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:36,950
2025 child care grant program.

1177
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,799
Perfect. Uh, childcare has been an

1178
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:40,720
important focus in San Carlos for nearly

1179
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,319
the past decade. In 2017, the San Monteo

1180
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:46,319
County Childare Partnership Council

1181
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:48,400
published a report which indicated a

1182
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,000
shortfall in the number of child care

1183
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,799
spaces available in our community. Over

1184
00:58:52,799 --> 00:58:55,440
the coming years, city council elevated

1185
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,160
child care as a strategic priority,

1186
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,079
ultimately adopting the childcare

1187
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:02,960
development impact fee in 2022.

1188
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,040
The fee applies to new non-residential

1189
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,359
developments and is intended to offset

1190
00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:09,359
the demand for child care that is

1191
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,599
generated through employment growth.

1192
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:13,200
Developers have the option to provide

1193
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,599
child care on site or to pay the impact

1194
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:18,400
fee. Collected fees must be used to

1195
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,480
expand physical capacity of childcare

1196
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,760
facilities. In 2024, city council

1197
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,000
approved the childare grant program as

1198
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,599
the means of distributing childcare

1199
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:30,400
development impact fees and uh expanding

1200
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,910
local capacity.

1201
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,079
The program offers San Carlos childcare

1202
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:39,200
providers grants of up to $100,000 to

1203
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,160
create new childare spaces. Funds may be

1204
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,880
used to acquire a new facility, expand

1205
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,280
an existing center, or remodel a

1206
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,040
facility to accommodate a different age

1207
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,599
group. Funds may not be used for

1208
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:54,400
operational or maintenance expenses. The

1209
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,400
city conducted the first round of the

1210
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,799
childcare grant program in 2024 and

1211
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:01,359
distributed just shy of $500,000 between

1212
01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:05,510
five local childcare providers.

1213
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,920
For the 2025 funding cycle, our second

1214
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,000
funding cycle, the city accepted

1215
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,160
applications between September 8th and

1216
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,480
October 3rd. We received five

1217
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,319
applications.

1218
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:18,799
Uh while we budgeted 250,000 to the

1219
01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:21,920
grant program for fiscal year 2025 2026,

1220
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,920
the initial grant requests exceeded that

1221
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,960
budget by nearly $150,000 at just around

1222
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,680
$400,000.

1223
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,440
However, the representatives from the

1224
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,520
nonprofit Grains of Good Foundation

1225
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,040
ultimately decided to withdraw their

1226
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,680
application as they had not yet found a

1227
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,599
a physical location in St. Carlos where

1228
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:41,839
they could open their facility. This

1229
01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:43,440
reduced the funding pool down to four

1230
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,359
applications and brought the total value

1231
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:48,319
of the grant request to about $85,000

1232
01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:52,000
over the approved budget.

1233
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,839
The first application is from Shu

1234
01:00:53,839 --> 01:00:57,040
Academy Preschool located at 1601 Laurel

1235
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,440
Street. The applicant is requesting

1236
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,240
$35,654

1237
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,000
to make interior and exterior

1238
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,599
renovations

1239
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:06,960
inside. The grant funding would

1240
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,640
reimburse the cost of removing an

1241
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,880
existing storage area and converting

1242
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,280
that into classroom space and outside

1243
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,280
the grant funds would uh support the

1244
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,359
removal of unused structures, some

1245
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:19,440
regrading um so that the play area can

1246
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,079
be used by more children simultaneously.

1247
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:23,839
All in all, the applicant estimates that

1248
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:25,520
this would expand enrollment by eight

1249
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,400
spaces.

1250
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,000
The owners of Shu Academy are also

1251
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,000
expanding their presence in St. Carlos

1252
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:33,839
and are in the process of acquiring a

1253
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:35,520
new facility just up the road here from

1254
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,440
city hall at 1622 San Carlos Avenue. The

1255
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,200
working name for the new facility is

1256
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,599
Curious Beans by Shoe Academy, but

1257
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:46,000
that's subject to change.

1258
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,680
Uh after the sale is final, the

1259
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,040
applicants will be remodeling the

1260
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,440
facility to support their license and

1261
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,839
the owners are requesting $100,000 to

1262
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:55,440
reimburse a portion of their down

1263
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,160
payment on the property. Property

1264
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,760
acquisition is an eligible grant

1265
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,200
activity per the notice of funding

1266
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,040
availability. Although this is the first

1267
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,400
time an applicant has requested that

1268
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,680
reimbursement of a share of the down

1269
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,280
payment will assist with cash flow for

1270
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,280
the building improvements and the owner

1271
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,720
has already submitted building permit

1272
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,280
applications to the city. The applicants

1273
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,359
estimate that this uh new facility will

1274
01:02:17,359 --> 01:02:19,760
add between 48 and 55 new child care

1275
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,079
spaces including spaces for children as

1276
01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:26,069
young as 18 months old.

1277
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:27,760
The next application is from Bright

1278
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,640
Horizons located up in the hills uh at

1279
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,920
2851 St. Carlos Avenue. The facility is

1280
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,599
currently licensed to support children

1281
01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:38,240
older than 24 months. But in recogn

1282
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,760
recognition of the strong regional

1283
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,160
demand for spaces for younger children,

1284
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,839
Bright Horizons will be applying for an

1285
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:45,760
expanded state license so they can

1286
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,359
accommodate children between 12 months

1287
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:50,400
and 24 months old. to be issued that new

1288
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,319
license, Bright Horizons will need to

1289
01:02:52,319 --> 01:02:53,920
renovate the outdoor play area to

1290
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,079
accommodate uh the older and the younger

1291
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,400
children. And that's what the $100,000

1292
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,559
would be used for uh in accommodating

1293
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:03,280
those two different spaces. And Bright

1294
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:04,559
Horizons estimates that these

1295
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:06,880
renovations will provide 24 new toddler

1296
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,280
spaces again for that younger age group

1297
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,200
um that did not exist previously.

1298
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,280
The final application is from St. Carlos

1299
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,599
Belmont After School uh who are

1300
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:20,559
requesting $100,000 to update bathrooms,

1301
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:22,799
remodel kitchens, install new window

1302
01:03:22,799 --> 01:03:25,119
coverings, and add storage in the

1303
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:27,760
portable structures at Arundle, Britain

1304
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,200
Acres, White Oaks, and uh Heather

1305
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,760
Elementary Schools. St. Carlos Belmont

1306
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,280
After School leases the portable

1307
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,039
structures from the school district and

1308
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:38,720
those uh buildings are shared between

1309
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,160
the children in the transitional

1310
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,799
kindergarten or TK and the afterchool

1311
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:45,440
programs. City staff met with the

1312
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,200
applicants to discuss the proposal and

1313
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,039
to get a better sense for how those

1314
01:03:49,039 --> 01:03:50,960
modifications would expand capacity

1315
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,760
within the portable structures. The

1316
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,119
applicants indicated that they would

1317
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,119
re-review their proposal and see if they

1318
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:58,720
could make any modifications that would

1319
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,280
expand their capacity. Despite several

1320
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,280
attempts to reach out uh and hear back

1321
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,960
from the applicants, staff did not

1322
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,270
receive any follow-on details.

1323
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,200
As grant funds must be used to expand

1324
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,440
childcare capacity, staff are not able

1325
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,119
to recommend the grant application from

1326
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:17,280
St. Carlos Belmont after school as it

1327
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,200
was submitted. The applicants are

1328
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,960
encouraged to reapply to the program in

1329
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,760
a future year's funding cycle. However,

1330
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,520
as the remaining applicants, the

1331
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,280
remaining three meet the program

1332
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,280
requirements and will expand childcare

1333
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,760
capacity. staff recommending recommend

1334
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,359
awarding the full value of the grant

1335
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:35,520
request to those three and that includes

1336
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,680
the 35,654

1337
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,839
for Shoe Academy for the interior and

1338
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:42,720
exterior renovations, 100,000 for the

1339
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,119
property acquisition for Curious Beans,

1340
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:47,440
and then 100,000 for the playground uh

1341
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,920
renovations at Bright Horizons.

1342
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,680
Combined, uh these activities would

1343
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,000
create between 80 and 87 new child care

1344
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,240
spaces in the community, which is a

1345
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,720
really great number. And uh the grant

1346
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:03,109
awards would total $235,000654

1347
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:05,839
or excuse me 235654

1348
01:05:05,839 --> 01:05:08,079
uh which is within the 250,000 budgeted

1349
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:11,359
for this fiscal year.

1350
01:05:11,359 --> 01:05:12,799
Should city council agree to the

1351
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:14,799
recommended funding allocations, staff

1352
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:16,640
will notify the remaining applicants of

1353
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,119
their award status. We will coordinate

1354
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:21,280
with them to execute agreements for uh

1355
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,200
receipt of grant funds, collect their

1356
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,960
documentation to show that the eligible

1357
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,640
projects have been completed and then

1358
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,119
issue the reimbursements. Over the next

1359
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:30,960
5 years, staff will collect annual

1360
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,400
reports from the recipients to track

1361
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,640
their childare capacity.

1362
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,240
And staff plan to open the third round

1363
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,839
of this program. Again, this was the

1364
01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:40,880
second uh for uh this fall, which will

1365
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,880
be another 250,000 as budgeted.

1366
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,319
So based on all the above, staff

1367
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:47,839
recommend the city council adopt a

1368
01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:49,599
resolution awarding the recipients of

1369
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:52,160
the 2025 childcare grant program and

1370
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,839
authorizing the execution of agreements

1371
01:05:53,839 --> 01:05:56,160
for grant funds with the three eligible

1372
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,400
applicants. This concludes staff's

1373
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:59,839
presentation and I'm available to answer

1374
01:05:59,839 --> 01:06:02,640
any questions. Uh Katie Shen, owner of

1375
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,480
Shu Academy, is also present in case you

1376
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,160
have any more specific questions for her

1377
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,880
about her applications. Thank you.

1378
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,510
>> Thank you Andrew uh for the presentation

1379
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:11,520
» Thank you Andrew uh for the presentation

1380
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,440
and all the work on this. Uh do any of

1381
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,920
my colleagues have uh questions? I see

1382
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,640
uh Council Member Dugan.

1383
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:22,069
>> Uh thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor, and uh

1384
01:06:22,069 --> 01:06:22,079
» Uh thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor, and uh

1385
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:23,839
thank you, Andrew. Appreciate the the

1386
01:06:23,839 --> 01:06:27,760
overview and and the program. And uh

1387
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,680
yeah, phenomenal to think that this

1388
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,160
program is working um as intended. We uh

1389
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,960
you know, drew those impact fees and are

1390
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,039
now investing them directly into child

1391
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:41,520
care. And it looks like these grants

1392
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:45,200
will result in or at least assist in the

1393
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,920
development of about 85 um new child

1394
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:49,839
care spaces in town. So So that's

1395
01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:53,359
terrific. Um you know, in my time on

1396
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:55,520
council, it is a little unprecedented

1397
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,480
the way this this money is released and

1398
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,359
and and somewhat the open-ended nature

1399
01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:04,400
of it. And I, you know, so as I review

1400
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,480
these, I always just am like, ah, what's

1401
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,960
the accountability here? And are these

1402
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,520
subject to matching funds? How does that

1403
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:12,480
aspect work?

1404
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,549
>> Sure. Uh there no that is no longer a

1405
01:07:14,549 --> 01:07:14,559
» Sure. Uh there no that is no longer a

1406
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:16,240
requirement. I know it was for the first

1407
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,240
program, but earlier this year we made

1408
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,920
some modifications to the notice of

1409
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,359
funding availability through city

1410
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:23,760
council and the matching requirement was

1411
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,760
removed. I know it was confusing for

1412
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:27,920
some of the applicants and the idea was

1413
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,079
to help uh you know get as much money

1414
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:31,520
into the community as quickly as

1415
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,920
possible. So that's not something that's

1416
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,319
um considered anymore. However, we do

1417
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:38,160
look at the financial viability of the

1418
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,799
applicants as they come in and it is a

1419
01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:43,039
reimbursementbased program with wording

1420
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,039
in the agreement that says, you know,

1421
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:47,599
this is exactly what um the city will

1422
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:49,839
reimburse the applicants for. And so, if

1423
01:07:49,839 --> 01:07:51,839
that work is not completed, they don't

1424
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:54,960
receive the the funds in return. So, we

1425
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,640
have those protections in the agreement.

1426
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:58,789
>> So, in all cases, they have to front the

1427
01:07:58,789 --> 01:07:58,799
» So, in all cases, they have to front the

1428
01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:01,200
money, they've made the spend, and then

1429
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,839
they submit that. Do we then go verify

1430
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:06,720
that the money was spent on a facility?

1431
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,119
I mean, how how close are we observing

1432
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:10,160
these projects?

1433
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,430
>> Yes. Yeah, we're collecting the

1434
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:11,440
» Yes. Yeah, we're collecting the

1435
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,280
documentation back, you know, looking at

1436
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,960
all of the invoices, making sure that it

1437
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,480
matches up with what they had

1438
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:18,560
anticipated, and then often we do go at

1439
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,560
the end then and make a tour, see the

1440
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,159
facility, and, you know, wrap everything

1441
01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:23,920
up nicely. Uh, I know it was very

1442
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,600
successful for our first five last year,

1443
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,120
which was really nice.

1444
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,349
>> Got it. And then curious beans. This one

1445
01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:29,359
» Got it. And then curious beans. This one

1446
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:33,440
is a new one. So the full H 100,000 and

1447
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:35,600
and and it was for an acquisition, but

1448
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,480
are are they did they buy the business

1449
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,640
that is currently there? You know, is

1450
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,000
there currently a child care business

1451
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,600
there that they purchase or is this for

1452
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,920
purchase of of the building itself?

1453
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,910
>> My understanding and uh Katie can jump

1454
01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:47,920
» My understanding and uh Katie can jump

1455
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,319
in if uh I get it incorrect is that it

1456
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:51,839
was an existing building. I think it was

1457
01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,799
a medical office,

1458
01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:56,640
a therapy clinic. Thank you so much.

1459
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:58,640
That was uh in the facility. It's just

1460
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,560
up the road here in St. Carlos Avenue

1461
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,719
and uh so they are acquiring the

1462
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:04,239
property so they'll actually own it

1463
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:06,480
versus leasing and then um in addition

1464
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:08,960
to the uh purchase price I think they

1465
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,520
planned on making about $800,000 in

1466
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,600
tenant improvements to be able to meet

1467
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,759
state childcare licensing. So, there'll

1468
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:17,839
be some significant modifications inside

1469
01:09:17,839 --> 01:09:19,920
as well. Okay. Um, and the idea again

1470
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,839
for the down payment assistance is that

1471
01:09:21,839 --> 01:09:23,199
they put that money down towards the

1472
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:25,839
down payment, but in getting it back uh

1473
01:09:25,839 --> 01:09:27,440
faster through the grant, they'll be

1474
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:28,719
able to then turn that around and make

1475
01:09:28,719 --> 01:09:29,679
those improvements faster.

1476
01:09:29,679 --> 01:09:31,510
>> Okay. Yeah. No, it's uh well,

1477
01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:31,520
» Okay. Yeah. No, it's uh well,

1478
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,000
congratulations on that. Um, it's good

1479
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,319
to know there'll be another freestanding

1480
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,960
child care facility in town and uh and I

1481
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,640
know owning the property will give you a

1482
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,719
degree of stability over time. So that's

1483
01:09:42,719 --> 01:09:45,440
that's good news for child care in San

1484
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:49,520
Carlos. Um is there is there any kind of

1485
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,759
vesting with that? Like if they fold up

1486
01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:53,839
shop in 6 months, do we have any

1487
01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:55,840
clawback right or is there any you know

1488
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:57,840
like you got to kind of think through

1489
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,840
the potential outcomes here?

1490
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:01,590
>> Sure. Uh my understand you know our

1491
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:01,600
» Sure. Uh my understand you know our

1492
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,239
program so far it's it is new but uh and

1493
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,960
we've tended towards uh you know being

1494
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,560
much more open and flexible with the

1495
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,760
applicants in the way it's currently

1496
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,840
worded. Uh I know again though Shu

1497
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:13,600
Academy it's uh been in the city for

1498
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:14,880
quite a while. They're making a

1499
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,199
significant investment. Um and so what

1500
01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:18,960
we do though is rather than having

1501
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,360
specific wording, we require 5 years of

1502
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:22,960
reporting that we'll follow on

1503
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,400
afterwards where we'll be checking back

1504
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,400
in with the applicants to make sure that

1505
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,159
they're, you know, meeting those

1506
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,400
enrollment numbers that they indicated.

1507
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,040
Um there's not necessarily teeth at this

1508
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,280
point with that, but um I you know

1509
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,480
something that we could look at in the

1510
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:38,719
future if needed, but I think our you

1511
01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:40,640
know our hope is that we all work

1512
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,239
together closely and you know it's for

1513
01:10:42,239 --> 01:10:43,520
the common goal in the community and

1514
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,040
that we wouldn't necessarily need

1515
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:46,159
something like that.

1516
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:50,790
>> I appreciate that. Um it's u you know as

1517
01:10:50,790 --> 01:10:50,800
» I appreciate that. Um it's u you know as

1518
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,719
public funds go we just have to be very

1519
01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:55,120
mindful that it just takes one bad

1520
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:57,280
example and this program will no longer

1521
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,600
be sustainable, right? So we we do have

1522
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,239
to tread carefully in in this kind of

1523
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:04,320
situation and then just over time I

1524
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,640
really would be interested in reports

1525
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,800
back on you know these applicants were

1526
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,360
expecting this many spaces and we in

1527
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,600
fact verified you know just how the

1528
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,600
program is continuing over time. I'd be

1529
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,000
very interested in um that's all I had.

1530
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,000
Thank you Vice Mayor.

1531
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,990
>> Thank you Council Member Dugan. Uh I

1532
01:11:23,990 --> 01:11:24,000
» Thank you Council Member Dugan. Uh I

1533
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,080
have Council Member Leighton.

1534
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,990
>> Uh thank you Vice Mayor. I just had a

1535
01:11:27,990 --> 01:11:28,000
» Uh thank you Vice Mayor. I just had a

1536
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,760
couple questions on Andrew and then

1537
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,960
maybe Katie can um help me out too. You

1538
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,120
said in your presentation that the sale

1539
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,480
on the um building wasn't final.

1540
01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:39,990
>> That's my understanding is that it's in

1541
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:40,000
» That's my understanding is that it's in

1542
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,080
process correct stuff.

1543
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:43,430
>> Can you just elaborate on what that

1544
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:43,440
» Can you just elaborate on what that

1545
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:45,040
means to be like in process?

1546
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,790
>> But can you come up to the here to

1547
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:46,800
» But can you come up to the here to

1548
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,320
answer just so we it's because it's

1549
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,840
recorded. Thank you.

1550
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,800
So, we have submitted the um application

1551
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,960
package to the building permit and we

1552
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,440
have received the first round of uh

1553
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:02,800
feedback um and uh right now we're uh

1554
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,040
expecting to receive the feedback from

1555
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,600
the planning and public work department

1556
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,800
by the end of this week. Um yeah.

1557
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:12,550
>> And is it still in escrow or is it for

1558
01:12:12,550 --> 01:12:12,560
» And is it still in escrow or is it for

1559
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,440
the purchase all?

1560
01:12:13,440 --> 01:12:15,669
>> Uh we're still in escrow. We have

1561
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:15,679
» Uh we're still in escrow. We have

1562
01:12:15,679 --> 01:12:18,000
removed all the um physical

1563
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,239
contingencies. We're just simply waiting

1564
01:12:20,239 --> 01:12:23,520
for the result of the city making sure

1565
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,760
this can be a childcare facility to

1566
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:27,520
remove all the contingencies.

1567
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,070
>> Okay. Um

1568
01:12:30,070 --> 01:12:30,080
» Okay. Um

1569
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,360
and then does that

1570
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,440
in regards to permit timeline then? So

1571
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:37,360
there's a permit timeline from the city

1572
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,400
to make sure it meets all the

1573
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,560
contingencies and is there any licensing

1574
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,239
that's the next stage or has that

1575
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:44,640
already been approved? Yes, licensing

1576
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:48,320
has to be um we have to wait until you

1577
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,239
know the the building and the facility

1578
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:53,840
is ready to proceed to the licensing

1579
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,669
process.

1580
01:12:57,679 --> 01:13:00,400
But sorry, but but just adding to that

1581
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,040
regarding the timeline, we're looking to

1582
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,640
um start the construction po we're being

1583
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,960
positive here. We are expecting to start

1584
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:12,640
the construction um in around June time.

1585
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,880
Um and the con construction itself might

1586
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,239
take about six months. Um and uh the

1587
01:13:18,239 --> 01:13:20,480
licensing process will after uh start

1588
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:24,870
after that.

1589
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:26,239
» Okay. Thank you very much.

1590
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:30,950
>> Thank you,

1591
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,640
» Council Member McDow.

1592
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,390
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor. I just wanted to

1593
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:34,400
» Thank you, Vice Mayor. I just wanted to

1594
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:36,000
follow up on the comments. Thank you for

1595
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,960
that. um with regard to release of funds

1596
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,040
then how would that work in this in this

1597
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,880
very kind of unique situation that we

1598
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:43,679
have?

1599
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:46,000
Uh so uh for this situation I think

1600
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,199
there could be a way that in the

1601
01:13:47,199 --> 01:13:49,679
agreement we could state that you know

1602
01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:51,840
uh pending approval of a childare

1603
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,000
license for the facility could have the

1604
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:55,679
funding come through or you I think we

1605
01:13:55,679 --> 01:13:57,600
could be open to the way that um you

1606
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,560
would receive the the reimbursement. Um

1607
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,800
and you know whatever uh council would

1608
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,800
be most comfortable with uh if there

1609
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,120
were any specific triggers or if just at

1610
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,159
this point you know we uh would offer

1611
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:14,159
the full amount you know uh knowing that

1612
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:15,760
the purchase has gone through you know

1613
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:16,880
that I'm sorry I'm kind of talking

1614
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,800
myself into that one that receiving the

1615
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,480
the confirmation that the sale has

1616
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:22,719
completed that that may be our um

1617
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:25,679
trigger to release the funds.

1618
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:28,229
>> Thank you.

1619
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:28,239
» Thank you.

1620
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:30,470
>> Okay. I don't see other comments from my

1621
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:30,480
» Okay. I don't see other comments from my

1622
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:32,400
colleagues. I had one question though.

1623
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:37,280
Um so we have in the past had a $100,000

1624
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:42,080
limit per um applicant and I mean I look

1625
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,800
at this as the same applicant asking for

1626
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,400
$135,000.

1627
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,480
Tell me how you can you go through that

1628
01:14:48,480 --> 01:14:50,080
process because it's both by Shoe

1629
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,760
Academy and we had issues at the last

1630
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,199
one where someone had wanted more money.

1631
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:56,239
We said no we're capped at $100,000.

1632
01:14:56,239 --> 01:14:57,990
>> Absolutely. Um, so for this one, there

1633
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:58,000
» Absolutely. Um, so for this one, there

1634
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,840
is a grayer. There's no specific wording

1635
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:00,880
within the notice of funding

1636
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,360
availability that says we someone cannot

1637
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,600
apply for multiple locations. However,

1638
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,800
in this case, it's the same owner, but

1639
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,640
there's going to be separate employee

1640
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,080
identification numbers, going to be

1641
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,560
separate tax documents between the two.

1642
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,040
Um, so there was that separation that

1643
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:18,960
it's, you know, separate businesses just

1644
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,280
by the same person. And then in addition

1645
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,280
to that, we looked at the fact that, you

1646
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,040
know, this really is going to be um

1647
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:26,480
creating so many new spaces,

1648
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:27,920
particularly the new facility up here on

1649
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,080
St. Carlos Avenue that's making a strong

1650
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,840
impact for the community. It would be

1651
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,000
adding um childcare spaces for younger

1652
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,600
children down to 18 months, which is

1653
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,840
something that's um very needed. And

1654
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,880
then also um the funds do expire after 5

1655
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,480
years per the mitigation fee act. If we

1656
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:44,719
haven't used them for the uh intended

1657
01:15:44,719 --> 01:15:46,320
purpose, they could roll back. So, I

1658
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:47,679
think we were um you know, just really

1659
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:49,360
open to being as flexible as possible

1660
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,360
with the goal of getting that money back

1661
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,679
to make spaces now um and be as

1662
01:15:53,679 --> 01:15:56,080
proactive as we can. Okay. I guess I'm

1663
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,960
just concerned because we were not

1664
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,679
flexible last time and it caused issues

1665
01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:04,480
for us um at least feedback from, you

1666
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:06,159
know, from a couple child at least one

1667
01:16:06,159 --> 01:16:08,560
childare provider who um was trying to

1668
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,960
do a larger project. And so I I guess I

1669
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,800
I kind of feel like we we're sort of

1670
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,480
changing the rules on that and I'm

1671
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:15,840
personally not really comfortable with

1672
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,840
that to say we're going to now just say

1673
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,480
oh well now it's because I mean we could

1674
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:22,800
have you could in some case have one act

1675
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,960
one company maybe they have different

1676
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,560
EIN but they're essentially the same

1677
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,840
company getting all $250,000.

1678
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,920
And so I'm just concerned about the

1679
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,480
precedent we're potentially uh setting

1680
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,480
here by getting beyond the $100,000

1681
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:39,040
without sort of you know I think a a

1682
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,040
council decision around that that we'd

1683
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,159
want to I mean I know we're making a

1684
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:44,000
decision here on this but I from a

1685
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,360
policy standpoint I'm not comfortable

1686
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,840
with that. I know Andrea I don't know if

1687
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,000
you wanted to add something on that.

1688
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,430
>> Thank you. Good evening. Uh Andrea

1689
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:51,440
» Thank you. Good evening. Uh Andrea

1690
01:16:51,440 --> 01:16:52,880
Martisich assistant community

1691
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,120
development director. Um just to to

1692
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,400
respond to that Mayor Rack and you

1693
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,800
you've mentioned this too. Sorry Vice

1694
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,320
Mayor Rack it's the chair. Um, I think

1695
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:03,840
the the difference between the first

1696
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,120
application, I recall the one you're

1697
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,280
talking about in the last the last cycle

1698
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,199
and this one is the separate physical

1699
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:11,120
locations. So, I think that that would

1700
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,120
be our response to how that's different

1701
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,800
than the first application where their

1702
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,800
project they were asking for more than

1703
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,040
the maximum.

1704
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,520
I guess I have a hard time just drawing

1705
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:22,960
that distinction because it's almost

1706
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,280
like saying if I happen to have three

1707
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,760
childcare facilities, I can get $300,000

1708
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,600
or I can get because I'm happen to be a

1709
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,080
larger organization. And I just worry

1710
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,520
that we're prohibiting some smaller

1711
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,440
organizations from be able to have that.

1712
01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:37,840
And um I I think the purpose is to kind

1713
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,159
of, you know, have be able to give out

1714
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:42,960
to multiple childcare providers. And I I

1715
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,280
feel like we're we're not doing that in

1716
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,040
this case. Um I understand where the

1717
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,480
applications were. I'm just concerned

1718
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:50,000
that of the precedent we're setting with

1719
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,320
this. I just I I mean I'm not really

1720
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,480
comfortable with with doing that at this

1721
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:55,440
point with that.

1722
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:56,790
>> Understood. Thank you.

1723
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:56,800
» Understood. Thank you.

1724
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,310
>> Thank you though. Uh Council Member

1725
01:17:58,310 --> 01:17:58,320
» Thank you though. Uh Council Member

1726
01:17:58,320 --> 01:17:59,679
Dugan.

1727
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:03,350
>> Yeah. Thank you, uh, Vice Mayor. Um,

1728
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:03,360
» Yeah. Thank you, uh, Vice Mayor. Um,

1729
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:06,080
yeah, I appreciate your concern. I guess

1730
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:09,040
I do understand. So, are we being asked

1731
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,840
now to make that distinction that the

1732
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:16,159
100,000 will apply per facility? Is that

1733
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:18,320
what we're are we being asked that? I

1734
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,520
mean, is that

1735
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,110
>> uh it just in terms of precedent

1736
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:21,120
» uh it just in terms of precedent

1737
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,520
setting, something that we could add

1738
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,719
later to the notice of funding

1739
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:26,320
availability in either direction whether

1740
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,199
or not it's allowed or not allowed. Um

1741
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:30,640
but again, it was a gray area that

1742
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,640
wasn't specifically called out in the

1743
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,120
notice of funding availability. Um

1744
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,669
>> Got it. Yeah, I I you know, I could go

1745
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:37,679
» Got it. Yeah, I I you know, I could go

1746
01:18:37,679 --> 01:18:40,640
either way on that. And I do think I

1747
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,760
Andrea I think you mentioned there was

1748
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,239
um you know we have to get these funds

1749
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:50,080
moving or there you know where are we at

1750
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,719
in this program? Are are we up against

1751
01:18:52,719 --> 01:18:55,040
uh uh needing to allocate some of these

1752
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,600
funds or you know were there a lot of

1753
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,760
applicants that you know we've turned

1754
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,920
away like where are we at in this and

1755
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,920
how generous

1756
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,679
where's our leaning and recommendation

1757
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:08,239
from staff on on this sort of matter?

1758
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:10,320
Sure. So, uh, my understanding is we

1759
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,440
have about 640,000

1760
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:15,920
collected at the moment in fund 26, the

1761
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,040
childcare impact fee fund. Um, we had

1762
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,159
500,000 that we issued last year for

1763
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:24,000
those first five applicants. So, that

1764
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,920
was a significant number. I don't know

1765
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,360
the exact timing for when that 640,000

1766
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:31,120
came in, but I would imagine we still

1767
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,280
have several years before we would be

1768
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,000
near our our um our 5year limit on

1769
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,320
those. And with the 250,000 budgeted

1770
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,400
this year and then 250,000

1771
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,480
for this next fiscal year, I think we

1772
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:45,040
could move through that um you know at a

1773
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,360
at a good pace. Um we were happy that we

1774
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,800
received the five applications. Again,

1775
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,400
it was the five uh submitted you know

1776
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:53,920
heard back from people that there was

1777
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,560
interest but just obviously there the

1778
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,320
applicants need to be open to having a

1779
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,960
specific project. And so this year this

1780
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:02,719
was the the set that we received could

1781
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:04,560
change in the future but again we do

1782
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,239
have a relatively small number of

1783
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:08,400
existing providers. So there's not as a

1784
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,560
large universe of people that could be

1785
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,960
coming in year after year. And I I think

1786
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,560
again that was another consideration and

1787
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,960
being more flexible is that as we've now

1788
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,520
assisted five with initial projects. I

1789
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,679
think we have know specifically have

1790
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:24,480
about 12 or 13 providers in the city. So

1791
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:25,840
that we're already kind of reaching the

1792
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,440
halfway point of known providers that

1793
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:29,120
have been assisted through the program.

1794
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,239
Okay. And and and the 100,000 right now

1795
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:34,960
it's it it's one time or are we saying

1796
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,640
after four years or something they can

1797
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:37,600
reapply or

1798
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,870
>> I was going to add I think it's after

1799
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:38,880
» I was going to add I think it's after

1800
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,880
one year that they could reapply. So

1801
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,560
after so the five that you've already

1802
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,320
awarded in the last cycle could

1803
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,480
theoretically apply again in the at the

1804
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:48,560
end of this year for another 100,000

1805
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,880
based on how the program currently is is

1806
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,760
designed

1807
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:52,630
>> for project.

1808
01:20:52,630 --> 01:20:52,640
» for project.

1809
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:53,990
>> For a different project. Correct.

1810
01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:54,000
» For a different project. Correct.

1811
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:54,390
>> Yeah.

1812
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:54,400
» Yeah.

1813
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,229
>> Yeah. Um and just sorry to go back um

1814
01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:56,239
» Yeah. Um and just sorry to go back um

1815
01:20:56,239 --> 01:20:57,760
one second to to answer your question

1816
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,920
about applications. Um for the first

1817
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:01,760
round we received five applications and

1818
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,920
and as you're aware you granted funds to

1819
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,560
all five. Um this round um even though

1820
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,560
we're not recommending approval for one

1821
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:09,920
because they're not meeting the

1822
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:12,000
operational standards. I'm sorry the

1823
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,080
capital improvement standards. Um we

1824
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,600
haven't had any instance where we've had

1825
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,000
to say oh this is too many. We can't

1826
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,199
move forward. Um so were for example the

1827
01:21:21,199 --> 01:21:23,280
afterchool application and the one that

1828
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,120
withdrew if they had met our

1829
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,679
requirements and had a location um we

1830
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:29,840
would probably be coming forward with um

1831
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,520
the recommendation or the question of

1832
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,120
whether to allocate more funds that we

1833
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,040
already have to be able to grant those

1834
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,080
five.

1835
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,110
>> Okay. Okay, that helps. Thank you. Um

1836
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:39,120
» Okay. Okay, that helps. Thank you. Um

1837
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,679
yeah, I I I appreciate the concern,

1838
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,920
Adam. I really could go either way. I

1839
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,760
think I would be most interested in

1840
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,840
where the subcommittee came out on this

1841
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:49,440
because I think it really is a matter of

1842
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:51,600
wrestling with these applications and

1843
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,639
determining, you know, from, you know,

1844
01:21:54,639 --> 01:21:56,320
living and breathing with them what's

1845
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:58,000
appropriate. So, I think I'd defer to

1846
01:21:58,000 --> 01:21:59,440
the subcommittee.

1847
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:01,590
>> Okay. Thank you, Council Member Dugan.

1848
01:22:01,590 --> 01:22:01,600
» Okay. Thank you, Council Member Dugan.

1849
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:02,880
Who's on the subcommittee for that? Is

1850
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,440
that But I think uh Sarah, you have your

1851
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:06,239
you have your

1852
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:07,430
>> Yeah, I had

1853
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:07,440
» Yeah, I had

1854
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:08,950
>> I had a follow-up question actually

1855
01:22:08,950 --> 01:22:08,960
» I had a follow-up question actually

1856
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:11,679
before I council weigh in, but um two

1857
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:12,960
questions actually. You mentioned

1858
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,000
there's 640,000 in the fund right now.

1859
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,320
So that's right now that's not So the

1860
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,199
500k is already gone and that does that

1861
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:23,520
include the 250k that we would be giving

1862
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:24,080
out?

1863
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,430
>> That does not. So that would bring us

1864
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:25,440
» That does not. So that would bring us

1865
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:27,199
down to about 400,000 after

1866
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:29,990
>> after we dull this out. Okay. Okay.

1867
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:30,000
» after we dull this out. Okay. Okay.

1868
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:30,390
>> Okay.

1869
01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:30,400
» Okay.

1870
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,430
>> Um and then my I appreciate you raising

1871
01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:33,440
» Um and then my I appreciate you raising

1872
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:36,239
this concern, Adam. I for me personally,

1873
01:22:36,239 --> 01:22:40,960
I think the more slots we can build,

1874
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,800
I I kind of see a difference between

1875
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,600
asking for more money for the same slots

1876
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,639
versus more money for, you know, two

1877
01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:50,080
different buildings, two different

1878
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,159
facilities, two different, you know,

1879
01:22:52,159 --> 01:22:55,360
increases and slots for um the the

1880
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,639
younger kids. Um, but if we do that, I'm

1881
01:22:58,639 --> 01:23:00,960
wondering how that impacts a potential

1882
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,760
request from um the afterchool program

1883
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,840
because then could they say, well, we

1884
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,159
want 100k for a rental and 100K for

1885
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:10,560
Britain acres and 100K for White Oaks.

1886
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,159
So, I appreciate you bringing this up

1887
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:13,520
because it does seem like something that

1888
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,120
we need to clarify. Um, I do also think

1889
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,960
that the afterchool program is a little

1890
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,360
different because they're leasing space

1891
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,199
from the school district and I'm not

1892
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:25,360
really sure how all of that works. So, I

1893
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:28,719
would need more clarity on um tenant

1894
01:23:28,719 --> 01:23:31,520
improvements to um facilities on the

1895
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,800
school district property. I think that's

1896
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,960
very different than the private sector

1897
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,120
um who doesn't have the same benefits as

1898
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:42,159
the the school district. Um so, um I I

1899
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:43,600
don't really remember where Neil and I

1900
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,440
came down or if we wrestled with this,

1901
01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,840
but for me personally, I I see a big

1902
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:48,960
difference between two different

1903
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:53,120
buildings. Um it is incredibly

1904
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,040
um the childare industry is really

1905
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,760
underwater right now because um it's

1906
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,880
really hard to hire and retain staff. Um

1907
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,960
it's super difficult. It's very

1908
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:07,840
difficult to um build out facilities. Um

1909
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:09,679
it's easier in San Carlos because we've

1910
01:24:09,679 --> 01:24:11,280
done such great work in take making the

1911
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:14,080
permitting process easier and um lots of

1912
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:18,800
different things, zoning. Um, but

1913
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,000
when the state subtracted TK, the older

1914
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:25,520
kids out of, you know, child care, it's

1915
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,320
incredibly difficult to make

1916
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,000
the books balance when you're just

1917
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,840
charging for infants because there's a

1918
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,800
smaller child um child and caregiver

1919
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,840
ratio. Your expenses are so much higher.

1920
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,880
Um, I honestly I I'm so grateful that

1921
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,880
you are investing in San Carlos because

1922
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,000
it is just a really really difficult um

1923
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,159
business right now. So for me, the fact

1924
01:24:48,159 --> 01:24:50,560
that they went to build out a a second

1925
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,880
facility um for me, I can see those

1926
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:54,400
these two things as being very

1927
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,639
different. Um, one is upgrades to an

1928
01:24:56,639 --> 01:24:58,239
existing facility, one is building

1929
01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:00,320
something brand new. All of it will add

1930
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,520
new spaces. we can tie the money per kid

1931
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,520
to each of the spaces versus someone

1932
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:06,800
just coming in and saying, "I want

1933
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,440
$300,000 for nine spots." For me, it's

1934
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:13,040
those are two different um cases. So, um

1935
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,400
that's where I stand, but I'll turn it

1936
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,080
over to Neil.

1937
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,270
>> No, I I think to summarize what um the

1938
01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:19,280
» No, I I think to summarize what um the

1939
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:20,719
subcommittee meeting we had on this when

1940
01:25:20,719 --> 01:25:22,560
it got first presented to us, uh there

1941
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,320
was two things. One of which we had sent

1942
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,520
back uh more information on um the

1943
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,120
academy and where it was at in its

1944
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,840
process and permitting. um in those

1945
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,719
regards. And then uh the question that

1946
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:36,880
staff had asked Belmont after school was

1947
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,360
how do these uh improvements lead to

1948
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,920
just more spaces? Um which it didn't

1949
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,440
sound like they hadn't answered for for

1950
01:25:43,440 --> 01:25:45,360
us in that regards of that just that

1951
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,960
question um for it. I I think uh Sarah

1952
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,520
and I both recognized that the issues

1953
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:52,960
that we were discussing tonight are the

1954
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,080
same issues that we spotted and issue

1955
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,320
spotted of what could come about. And I

1956
01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,920
think it depends a little bit of on

1957
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:02,400
where you fall on certain things. Uh I

1958
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:03,840
mean I don't want to put words in

1959
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,560
Sarah's mouth, but her this is something

1960
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,239
she wants to make sure that she's

1961
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:10,320
improving and constantly push. Uh I'll

1962
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,920
put words in my own mouth of I'm far

1963
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,159
more cautious and risk adverse uh in

1964
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:16,320
certain situations especially as it kind

1965
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,520
of around the boundaries of it. I uh

1966
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,000
didn't have the privilege I don't know

1967
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:23,199
if that's the word I want to use of not

1968
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:24,719
being around under the last round where

1969
01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:26,000
there was some contention. So, I

1970
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:27,920
couldn't answer that question, but Sarah

1971
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,600
did mention this would be an issue that

1972
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,600
the council would have to grapple with

1973
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,000
um in its regards. I mean, our our

1974
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,440
general consensus of where we came out

1975
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:39,199
with it is um it kind of just depended

1976
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:41,520
on each individual member of what they

1977
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,520
wanted and we realized that as we're

1978
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,520
kind of building this plane, as we're

1979
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,600
flying it, that these are issues we have

1980
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,840
to grapple with um during the time. So,

1981
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,199
that's I don't know if that summarizes

1982
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:52,400
anything, but that kind of tells you

1983
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,639
where we landed on it. No, I think that

1984
01:26:54,639 --> 01:26:55,920
I mean it's helpful for me and I don't

1985
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:57,679
know for John if that's what you were

1986
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:00,480
hoping for from the subcommittee. I mean

1987
01:27:00,480 --> 01:27:03,750
>> yeah thank you. Um so I would support

1988
01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:03,760
» yeah thank you. Um so I would support

1989
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,760
the subcommittee recommendation on that.

1990
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,400
I I would with regard

1991
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,990
>> they didn't have a recommendation.

1992
01:27:09,990 --> 01:27:10,000
» they didn't have a recommendation.

1993
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,669
>> Well that's the thing.

1994
01:27:11,669 --> 01:27:11,679
» Well that's the thing.

1995
01:27:11,679 --> 01:27:14,790
>> I see. Um it sounded like you were

1996
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:14,800
» I see. Um it sounded like you were

1997
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,440
supportive of both uh funding requests.

1998
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:19,679
So, if I didn't hear that, then I would

1999
01:27:19,679 --> 01:27:20,960
appreciate

2000
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,470
>> I I mean, I'll tell you just my personal

2001
01:27:22,470 --> 01:27:22,480
» I I mean, I'll tell you just my personal

2002
01:27:22,480 --> 01:27:26,400
thought on it is um in re I I always

2003
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,239
tell everyone I'm very riskadverse. So,

2004
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:30,800
I appreciate the Katie being here in the

2005
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,639
shoe academy going through the process

2006
01:27:32,639 --> 01:27:35,280
to get it. I would probably uh before I

2007
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,960
would approve the $100,000 for it, I'd

2008
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,320
like to see it get through the

2009
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,159
permitting process and start the

2010
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,400
construction. Um I think that fits more

2011
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,800
into the category of what um the at

2012
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,560
least the grant application said for

2013
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,560
acquisition and starting and I

2014
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,719
understand that that capital needs to be

2015
01:27:52,719 --> 01:27:54,639
there and I think it fits into our goals

2016
01:27:54,639 --> 01:27:56,800
at that point in time. Um my risk

2017
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:58,960
adverse in me is always going to say I

2018
01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,120
want a little bit more accountability in

2019
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,120
the process than instead of just getting

2020
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,639
and hoping and seeing work down the

2021
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:07,360
road. So that's where I fall um on those

2022
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,159
regards and uh I think outside of that

2023
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:11,120
we'd follow the rest of the

2024
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,880
recommendations at this time with the

2025
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,159
encouragement that they would continue

2026
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:16,159
to work with you know whoever those

2027
01:28:16,159 --> 01:28:17,840
providers were Belmont after school to

2028
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:19,600
try to get them to answer those the

2029
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,120
question we asked for everybody is how

2030
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,639
is it going to expand capacity and then

2031
01:28:22,639 --> 01:28:24,080
we can have a deeper conversation but

2032
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,400
that's kind of stage one um from it. So

2033
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,719
that was where I would fall uh in those

2034
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:29,199
regards.

2035
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:29,830
>> Yeah.

2036
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:29,840
» Yeah.

2037
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,430
>> All right. Uh thank you Neil. Um I um uh

2038
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:33,440
» All right. Uh thank you Neil. Um I um uh

2039
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:35,520
I mean I shared your concerns about the

2040
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,800
100,000 um and I assume those would be

2041
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,800
addressed programmatically like we're

2042
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,480
not going to release those funds until

2043
01:28:42,480 --> 01:28:45,040
the building's closing or what have you.

2044
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,430
>> Correct. We I think we can uh you know

2045
01:28:47,430 --> 01:28:47,440
» Correct. We I think we can uh you know

2046
01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:49,350
>> we'll modify the grant agreement to have

2047
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:49,360
» we'll modify the grant agreement to have

2048
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:50,880
a condition like that.

2049
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,310
>> Got it. I'd be much more comfortable

2050
01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:52,320
» Got it. I'd be much more comfortable

2051
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,080
with that too. But Neil, my question

2052
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,159
really was do you also approve the

2053
01:28:56,159 --> 01:28:59,040
second grant to the same applicant in a

2054
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:00,719
second location? And that that's really

2055
01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:03,199
what I'm I'm hoping to I I didn't know

2056
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:05,360
if you guys wrestled with that aspect or

2057
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:06,000
not.

2058
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,790
>> So I I I guess my our discussions we had

2059
01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:08,800
» So I I I guess my our discussions we had

2060
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,159
with it when we wrestled with it. Um

2061
01:29:12,159 --> 01:29:14,080
I think if I'm part of the committee, I

2062
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,239
would probably fall more toward um

2063
01:29:16,239 --> 01:29:18,560
Council Member McDow's point of we're

2064
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:20,960
starting to hit kind of a cap of where

2065
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,960
we're at with these providers within San

2066
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,880
Carlos. So, we're going to have to get

2067
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,400
to a point where if we want this money

2068
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,239
to get out the door or we need to think

2069
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:30,880
more strategically about it as what we

2070
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,520
want it to do with this money. Um, where

2071
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,679
if someone is going to be I view it as

2072
01:29:35,679 --> 01:29:38,320
two separate locations, at least in my

2073
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,480
mind, given kind of how they at least I

2074
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:41,760
know how they operate and how they will

2075
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,440
operate. Um, so I I felt that I was fine

2076
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:48,080
giving it to two, but again that's with

2077
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,239
the asterisk that I wasn't here to know

2078
01:29:50,239 --> 01:29:51,840
the background and arguments from the

2079
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,600
last one. Um, but that's just my own

2080
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,480
personal opinion.

2081
01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:56,639
Go

2082
01:29:56,639 --> 01:29:58,149
>> ahead.

2083
01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:58,159
» ahead.

2084
01:29:58,159 --> 01:30:00,960
Okay. Um, so I just want to jump in. So

2085
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,760
I think I I appreciate the I guess I had

2086
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,719
one just a hypothetical for the for for

2087
01:30:06,719 --> 01:30:08,719
the two of you too. So had the Grains of

2088
01:30:08,719 --> 01:30:12,000
Good Foundation for example, if that

2089
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,199
grant had they had been ready and would

2090
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:19,110
you make the same decision?

2091
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,040
» I mean I I love a good hypothetical. you

2092
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,800
have spread things out more cuz now

2093
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,480
you're saying like if you had an extra

2094
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:26,800
$64,000 that you were going to give out,

2095
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,639
we would be over the cap. And then what

2096
01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:29,280
would you do?

2097
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:30,950
>> I I mean I think we were all very I

2098
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:30,960
» I I mean I think we were all very I

2099
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,639
think again I don't want to put words in

2100
01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:35,440
Sarah's mouth of I I think we're very

2101
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:37,360
contingent on we want to stay within

2102
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,120
budget um for it at least maybe that's

2103
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:43,679
not what

2104
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:45,360
Okay, sorry. I I think for me

2105
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,280
personally, I would stay within budget

2106
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,280
and then I think you would have to have

2107
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:54,000
a more detailed um

2108
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:56,239
kind of analysis of each one of how you

2109
01:30:56,239 --> 01:30:57,520
wanted to give them out with the grains

2110
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,000
of good if they didn't remove it. So,

2111
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,400
you know, not to be a very lawyerly

2112
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,239
answer to you, but I want to say it

2113
01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:06,400
would just depend on

2114
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:07,430
>> Sounds very lawyerly.

2115
01:31:07,430 --> 01:31:07,440
» Sounds very lawyerly.

2116
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:10,070
>> It is. Yeah. So, I guess I look at it in

2117
01:31:10,070 --> 01:31:10,080
» It is. Yeah. So, I guess I look at it in

2118
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,080
terms of what's in front of me for this

2119
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,719
term of the grant application. So, in

2120
01:31:14,719 --> 01:31:15,840
this term of the grant, we only got

2121
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,719
four. And I would view it as I would

2122
01:31:18,719 --> 01:31:21,760
probably still just be more I don't

2123
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,520
think it would change my analysis of how

2124
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,000
I view the two separate organizations

2125
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,880
within the Shoe Academy.

2126
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,870
>> Um, thank you for the question. I would

2127
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:30,880
» Um, thank you for the question. I would

2128
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:33,199
have just asked for more money because

2129
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:34,880
we have I think something that we've

2130
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,880
talked about with like housing funds is

2131
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,560
to get the money out the door. There's

2132
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,560
no reason to sit on these funds if

2133
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,560
there's projects that are in need. And

2134
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:44,719
we've highlighted this as a priority.

2135
01:31:44,719 --> 01:31:46,719
And I think we also have to think about,

2136
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:49,040
you know, once commercial development

2137
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:50,480
starts on the east side, we're looking

2138
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:52,400
at tens of thousands of new employees

2139
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:53,840
who could potentially be bringing their

2140
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,440
kids to our city and dropping them at

2141
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:58,159
child care and going to work. So, if the

2142
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:00,480
money is here, I think I think that we

2143
01:32:00,480 --> 01:32:02,880
should um get it out the door if there's

2144
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,280
a need and there and and as I mentioned,

2145
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,199
it's so difficult to even start a child

2146
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:09,360
care and if people are brave enough and

2147
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,280
incredible enough to want to invest in

2148
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:12,639
our community and invest in our

2149
01:32:12,639 --> 01:32:14,719
children, I think childare is our most

2150
01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:16,560
precious community infrastructure and we

2151
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:17,840
should do everything we can to support

2152
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,440
it. And there's no reason for us to sit

2153
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:21,440
on this money if there are qualified

2154
01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:24,080
applicants willing to build out

2155
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,360
childcare slots.

2156
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,000
So I agree with you that we should not

2157
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:34,159
sit on the money. I I think my my view

2158
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:39,040
is we should update our policy

2159
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,719
before we give out all the money. We

2160
01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:42,320
should have a policy that it is we

2161
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:43,679
should look at because we have these

2162
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:45,520
funds, we should look at higher caps. we

2163
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,280
should look at giving away more money

2164
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:49,520
and doing it in a more policy

2165
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,000
processbased system versus saying well

2166
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:53,600
we're going to because this is where we

2167
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:54,880
are right now we're going to sort of say

2168
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,000
this is how we're going to do it for

2169
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:57,920
this grant cycle and then the next cycle

2170
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,560
we may have five people and and it's

2171
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:01,840
going to be a different thing again and

2172
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,480
so for me I would rather say plus I

2173
01:33:04,480 --> 01:33:06,400
think in this situation where they're

2174
01:33:06,400 --> 01:33:07,920
not going to break ground until June

2175
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,480
potentially why can't we come back do

2176
01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:12,800
the policy give them $100,000 give

2177
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,520
$100,000 to Bright Verizon

2178
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,760
and then come back and and change the

2179
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,920
policy and and build something out that

2180
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,800
says it could be 200,000 or 250 per and

2181
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,719
let's spend of the money when we have

2182
01:33:24,719 --> 01:33:27,990
it.

2183
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:30,560
» I mean, if you would want to preference

2184
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:31,199
on that would be

2185
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:32,709
>> I feel like we put a lot of thought into

2186
01:33:32,709 --> 01:33:32,719
» I feel like we put a lot of thought into

2187
01:33:32,719 --> 01:33:34,159
the policy already. I think we wanted to

2188
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:35,840
try and spread the money among many

2189
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:36,560
providers,

2190
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,590
>> 12 providers. So, according to

2191
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:39,600
» 12 providers. So, according to

2192
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,590
>> there's new ones coming every day. I

2193
01:33:41,590 --> 01:33:41,600
» there's new ones coming every day. I

2194
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:42,560
mean,

2195
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:44,229
>> I I don't know. I maybe that's something

2196
01:33:44,229 --> 01:33:44,239
» I I don't know. I maybe that's something

2197
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:49,189
that we need to have a discussion about.

2198
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:50,880
» Council member.

2199
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:54,709
>> Uh thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Um so, uh

2200
01:33:54,709 --> 01:33:54,719
» Uh thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Um so, uh

2201
01:33:54,719 --> 01:34:01,760
thank you um Neil and Sarah. Um so, uh

2202
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,159
I'm supportive of this on a perlocation

2203
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:06,400
basis. I agree with Adam. If that is a

2204
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:07,840
decision we want to make, we should make

2205
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,480
it programmatically. And I think and I

2206
01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:14,080
appreciate your thoughtfulness. Um so I

2207
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,080
think perlloccation does make sense. We

2208
01:34:16,080 --> 01:34:19,280
do want to get these funds working. We

2209
01:34:19,280 --> 01:34:21,760
want to get them out the door. Um so if

2210
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:23,760
that needs to be if that can be handled

2211
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:25,520
at subcommittee, great. If that needs to

2212
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,239
come back to us, I would propose we are

2213
01:34:28,239 --> 01:34:31,679
formal about saying it's per location. I

2214
01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:33,199
think that's that's a supportable

2215
01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:36,400
position. I would not be supportive of

2216
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,360
going above the 100,000 per year. Uh I I

2217
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,840
view this program as high risk, frankly.

2218
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,520
Uh I just it's a very loose program and

2219
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,480
100,000's a lot of money to be kind of

2220
01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:51,120
floating out there per project. So I I

2221
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:54,239
do not support going above the 100k by

2222
01:34:54,239 --> 01:34:57,360
the way. Um, and I would just on a

2223
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:00,800
slightly different note, um, I also have

2224
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,520
been hearing how difficult it is on on

2225
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,320
child care providers with the TK uh,

2226
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,800
competition basically, you know, putting

2227
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:12,639
more costs on them in a way. Um, and so

2228
01:35:12,639 --> 01:35:14,560
I, you know, I I I will let the

2229
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:16,480
subcommittee wrestle with this fully,

2230
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:20,239
but um, I would just point out that, you

2231
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:22,480
know, is that's needed child care in

2232
01:35:22,480 --> 01:35:24,080
town. So, I've generally been very

2233
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,400
supportive of TK because we just need

2234
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,840
more child care in town. Um, but I'm not

2235
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,159
sure about us subsidizing

2236
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:34,480
uh, after school programs given how

2237
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:36,239
heavily subsidized those programs

2238
01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:39,199
already are. Um, specifically, I believe

2239
01:35:39,199 --> 01:35:44,800
that the bond last year was in part to

2240
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,600
dedicate a lot of funds to preparing

2241
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,440
those classrooms for these after school

2242
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:51,679
programs. So, um, I'll let the

2243
01:35:51,679 --> 01:35:54,320
subcommittee wrestle with it, but um, I

2244
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:56,560
I would have to think long and hard

2245
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,440
about further subsidizing the TK

2246
01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:01,520
programs, you know, above and beyond the

2247
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,040
bond and what the schools are already

2248
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:05,600
doing there. So, um, just wanted to put

2249
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:07,679
that out there.

2250
01:36:07,679 --> 01:36:09,360
Just to clarify, John, just so you're

2251
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,920
aware, the TK program wasn't TK program

2252
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,560
is basically a statemandated new class,

2253
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,320
right? So instead of kindergarten, now

2254
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,800
you're starting TK. So I can tell you

2255
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,719
personally, I don't think any district

2256
01:36:20,719 --> 01:36:23,840
wanted to start the TK program. Um, but

2257
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:26,400
you just had to at a certain point in

2258
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,199
time. So what these are just to put it

2259
01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:30,480
in perspective when you think about this

2260
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:33,760
in the future is this is essentially uh

2261
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:38,159
rented spaces at the schools right so

2262
01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:40,000
you're talking about tenant improvements

2263
01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,920
things like that and how they may rent

2264
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,800
they may rent space they could easily

2265
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:46,159
say no to the schools and rent space

2266
01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:48,320
across the street find places at a

2267
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,159
church you know and run the program out

2268
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:52,560
of there for after school. So, it it has

2269
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,639
the bonds would cover the physical

2270
01:36:54,639 --> 01:36:56,480
structures potentially that these are

2271
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:58,000
housed in, but they wouldn't necessarily

2272
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,159
cover the inside or tenant improvements,

2273
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:02,320
which fit currently under our policy if

2274
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,080
we're talking like policy terms. Just so

2275
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,840
you're aware, um it doesn't it's not a

2276
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,920
addition to the TK program. It's the

2277
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:11,600
same after school that a fourth, fifth,

2278
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,440
or even some sixth graders can go to.

2279
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:15,040
So, just to so you're aware.

2280
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:16,470
>> No, I appreciate that. I understand

2281
01:37:16,470 --> 01:37:16,480
» No, I appreciate that. I understand

2282
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:18,639
these are the afterchool programs, but

2283
01:37:18,639 --> 01:37:21,840
I'd imagine it'd be similar facilities.

2284
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:24,159
It's not like they're going to remodel,

2285
01:37:24,159 --> 01:37:26,960
you know, the back lot or something. So

2286
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:28,639
anyway, I would really want us to take a

2287
01:37:28,639 --> 01:37:31,760
hard look at further subsidizing, you

2288
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:34,960
know, what a $180 million bond is

2289
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:36,400
probably already developing quite

2290
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:41,189
nicely. So, um,

2291
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:41,760
» Okay.

2292
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:43,669
>> May I make a recommendation?

2293
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:43,679
» May I make a recommendation?

2294
01:37:43,679 --> 01:37:44,709
>> You may.

2295
01:37:44,709 --> 01:37:44,719
» You may.

2296
01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:48,790
>> Excellent. Um, I think I think this

2297
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:48,800
» Excellent. Um, I think I think this

2298
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,239
conversation we're having is a

2299
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:52,639
consequence of this council being

2300
01:37:52,639 --> 01:37:55,440
trailblazers on this topic. The fact

2301
01:37:55,440 --> 01:37:58,320
that you as a council have decided to

2302
01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:01,119
take this on to develop a program to

2303
01:38:01,119 --> 01:38:03,280
collect the fees and now figure out how

2304
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,679
are we going to distribute it. And since

2305
01:38:05,679 --> 01:38:07,760
this is only the second time we're doing

2306
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,320
it, um, I think questions are going to

2307
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,880
continue to come up. if we had sat back

2308
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,239
and tried to sort of plan for every

2309
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:18,560
single hypothetical scenario that might

2310
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,719
have come up um we might have never

2311
01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:22,880
gotten this off the ground. So I think

2312
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,679
it's very healthy and normal that as we

2313
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:28,080
approach and see new situations we have

2314
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,040
to make some new decisions. I heard

2315
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,280
about three different issues um that

2316
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,199
were raised, but I think only one of

2317
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:38,080
them really relates to tonight. And that

2318
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:42,000
is do we feel it's appropriate to uh

2319
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:45,920
fund over 100,000 when um we're looking

2320
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,080
at the same provider but in two

2321
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:50,719
different locations? And I think that is

2322
01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:53,040
the question for the council. And the

2323
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,600
question is, would supporting that

2324
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,639
advance our goal, your goal of creating

2325
01:38:58,639 --> 01:39:01,360
more child care spaces? And I think if

2326
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,560
you did make that decision um tonight,

2327
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,960
yes, we would agree to that or no, we

2328
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,639
wouldn't, then that could set that

2329
01:39:08,639 --> 01:39:10,560
precedent and become a part of the

2330
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,960
policy going forward. I don't think we

2331
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,880
need to step away and then think about

2332
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,360
that in a subcommittee meeting. And then

2333
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,760
if that decision is made tonight, yes,

2334
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:22,800
we will do two locations or no, we

2335
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,520
won't, that becomes part of the policy

2336
01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:27,920
going forward. But then the other two

2337
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,199
questions, um the issue of whether an

2338
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:33,119
organization can come back a year later

2339
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:35,760
and ask for another 100,000 or the

2340
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:37,840
second issue of how do we want to treat

2341
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,080
after school programs, those can be

2342
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,920
considered at later subcommittee

2343
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,360
meetings and um worked into a policy

2344
01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:47,840
going forward.

2345
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,840
But I think the one main question

2346
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:54,880
tonight is um should you consider um one

2347
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:56,960
provider at two different locations when

2348
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,400
it takes you over the 100,000 cap and

2349
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,560
then we can consider that in our policy

2350
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,840
going forward.

2351
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:07,750
>> Thank you. Now I think that's a good

2352
01:40:07,750 --> 01:40:07,760
» Thank you. Now I think that's a good

2353
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:11,119
summary of where we are on that. Um

2354
01:40:11,119 --> 01:40:15,430
>> madam u Mr. Acting mayor,

2355
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:15,440
» madam u Mr. Acting mayor,

2356
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:17,189
>> excuse me.

2357
01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:17,199
» excuse me.

2358
01:40:17,199 --> 01:40:20,159
I have a suggestion because there the

2359
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:22,639
agenda is really awarding the grants

2360
01:40:22,639 --> 01:40:24,400
tonight. Um, so that's really the

2361
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,119
decision you're you're making. But we

2362
01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:29,040
could have we could bring back the

2363
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,119
notice of funding availability for you,

2364
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:33,040
which is really your policy document.

2365
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:34,560
That's what you put out there for the

2366
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:38,159
public to look at when um or I mean the

2367
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:39,920
providers to look at to determine

2368
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,560
whether they want to apply. um that the

2369
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,280
rule that might be your policy decision

2370
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,840
whether two locations yes, two locations

2371
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:50,800
no could be in your the next notice of

2372
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,400
funding availability as a policy

2373
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,800
document for you. So you could separate

2374
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:58,080
that and tonight act on the on the uh

2375
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:00,880
requests, but then we could bring um a

2376
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,800
modification either through the

2377
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,199
subcommittee or to the council of the

2378
01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:07,280
notice of funding availability, which is

2379
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,840
the document that the applicants look at

2380
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:11,600
to decide if they're going to apply or

2381
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,400
not.

2382
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:15,510
>> You can.

2383
01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:15,520
» You can.

2384
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,510
>> Uh thank you, Greg. I I have a follow-up

2385
01:41:17,510 --> 01:41:17,520
» Uh thank you, Greg. I I have a follow-up

2386
01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:20,159
question to that. Um,

2387
01:41:20,159 --> 01:41:22,000
you spoke earlier about the trigger for

2388
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,880
the $100,000. Is that something that we

2389
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,960
should give guidance on this evening of

2390
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,360
when that trigger happens or what is the

2391
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,199
trigger or what are you thinking on the

2392
01:41:31,199 --> 01:41:31,760
trigger?

2393
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,750
>> I think that's related to the decision

2394
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:33,760
» I think that's related to the decision

2395
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,080
you're making tonight. Um, when when to

2396
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,880
release the funds. I think it could be

2397
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,639
when construction's underway as was

2398
01:41:40,639 --> 01:41:43,520
suggested or or when the licensing from

2399
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,000
the state to approve approving the the

2400
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,719
spaces. Those are two choices you could

2401
01:41:48,719 --> 01:41:51,280
have. Um once the construction's

2402
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,840
underway, probably very likely that

2403
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,080
they'll get the licensing, but um that's

2404
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:00,400
that's really a a question for you.

2405
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:02,000
Maybe staff has something to add on

2406
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:05,109
that.

2407
01:42:05,119 --> 01:42:07,040
» I was just clarifying with Andrew. I

2408
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:08,239
thought I heard earlier that you

2409
01:42:08,239 --> 01:42:09,679
mentioned that the licensing doesn't

2410
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:12,320
happen until the very end. So the

2411
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,159
building needs to be completely built

2412
01:42:14,159 --> 01:42:16,639
out before you can get the license. Um,

2413
01:42:16,639 --> 01:42:18,800
so since that would be considerably

2414
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,880
later, we'd probably recommend once

2415
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:24,239
building construction's underway.

2416
01:42:24,239 --> 01:42:26,310
>> I think that's a that's a viable choice

2417
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:26,320
» I think that's a that's a viable choice

2418
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:29,520
given the how these centers are are

2419
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:33,669
built out.

2420
01:42:33,679 --> 01:42:39,430
» Okay, I would support that.

2421
01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:41,840
» Okay. Um, I think if we're done with

2422
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,440
questions, I'd like to take public

2423
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:45,600
comment and then we can take uh any sort

2424
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,280
of comments from the council and Nick

2425
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,040
and move forward with a potential

2426
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:50,880
motion. Crystal, is there any public

2427
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:52,159
comment on this item?

2428
01:42:52,159 --> 01:42:55,030
>> I don't have any slips. Uh, I can't see

2429
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:55,040
» I don't have any slips. Uh, I can't see

2430
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:56,639
around. Andrew, is there is there anyone

2431
01:42:56,639 --> 01:42:58,800
in person interested in making a

2432
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,119
comment? Doesn't look like it. Okay. Uh,

2433
01:43:01,119 --> 01:43:02,719
and there are no hands on Zoom.

2434
01:43:02,719 --> 01:43:06,709
>> Okay. Thank you. Um,

2435
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:06,719
» Okay. Thank you. Um,

2436
01:43:06,719 --> 01:43:09,199
all right. Are there any uh com any

2437
01:43:09,199 --> 01:43:13,910
further comments on this or discussion?

2438
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,159
Um I'll just say I I appreciate the

2439
01:43:16,159 --> 01:43:20,800
discussion on all this and um I I'm

2440
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:22,320
struggling with supporting this not

2441
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:23,600
because I don't think these are good

2442
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,199
good projects. I'm just I feel like

2443
01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:27,440
we're sort of making a lot of policy

2444
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:30,080
just on this on on terms of multiple

2445
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:32,080
locations, when we're going to award

2446
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:33,520
grants, how we're going to do this. I

2447
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,440
feel like this is the purpose of this is

2448
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:39,280
decide whether to uh release funds or

2449
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,360
not, not to develop policy as part of

2450
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:45,040
this process. So, um I'm going to uh not

2451
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,119
support this. I I certainly support the

2452
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:48,639
efforts that people are doing and I'm

2453
01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:50,480
not I don't feel a concern that this is

2454
01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:52,480
not going to move forward. Um but I just

2455
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:54,080
think we're we're making policy here on

2456
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:55,679
stuff when we should be doing that at a

2457
01:43:55,679 --> 01:43:58,320
separate item that's agenda is to do

2458
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:00,480
policy around what that process is and

2459
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:04,159
the funding for that.

2460
01:44:04,159 --> 01:44:05,760
And if there's not other comments, then

2461
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,920
I'll happy to call. Go ahead, sir. Vice

2462
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,320
Mayor, excuse me, Council Member Mel.

2463
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,109
>> Thank you. Um, Mr. Vice Mayor, I I I

2464
01:44:13,109 --> 01:44:13,119
» Thank you. Um, Mr. Vice Mayor, I I I

2465
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:14,639
really do appreciate your concerns and I

2466
01:44:14,639 --> 01:44:15,760
think you've brought a lot forward

2467
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,000
tonight to think about. I also think

2468
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,280
that, um, this is a very nuanced program

2469
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,040
and we're learning a lot as we go and

2470
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,440
we're learning as people apply. And I've

2471
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:27,840
actually I've been delighted by how many

2472
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:29,920
applicants we've had because I was

2473
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:32,080
concerned that, you know, we'd hit a

2474
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:33,679
point when we wouldn't see so many

2475
01:44:33,679 --> 01:44:35,920
applicants. Um I would love to see more

2476
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:38,320
family child care providers apply as

2477
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:42,080
well to diversify our um you know what

2478
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:44,159
we provide in our city. So, I'm hoping

2479
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:46,880
that in our next rounds um we can do a

2480
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,440
little more I don't know outreach

2481
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:50,800
through different family childcare

2482
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,520
organizations just to let reach that um

2483
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,360
that group of childare providers as

2484
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,320
well. But um I think as I said I think

2485
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,320
this industry needs a lot of support and

2486
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:04,159
we happen to be in a very lucky place

2487
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:07,199
based on staff's work for so many years

2488
01:45:07,199 --> 01:45:09,360
to get us sitting on this pot of money

2489
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:13,920
and um I'm I'm delighted to um support I

2490
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,600
mean this the number of slots that will

2491
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:17,199
be created from this is is really

2492
01:45:17,199 --> 01:45:20,320
incredible and um through different um

2493
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,320
facilities and um I think that's

2494
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:23,520
something that we should be proud of.

2495
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:27,040
So, um I will be supporting this and um

2496
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,400
you know hope that we can continue to um

2497
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,480
support future providers as well. So,

2498
01:45:32,480 --> 01:45:35,600
thank you.

2499
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,830
>> Okay. And I just would ask I guess we

2500
01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:37,840
» Okay. And I just would ask I guess we

2501
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:40,080
can do um I take a motion if there's a

2502
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:41,679
motion and if not we can

2503
01:45:41,679 --> 01:45:45,750
>> I move to adopt resolution 2026-

2504
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:45,760
» I move to adopt resolution 2026-

2505
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:47,669
>> six a resolution of the city council of

2506
01:45:47,669 --> 01:45:47,679
» six a resolution of the city council of

2507
01:45:47,679 --> 01:45:49,199
the city of St. Carlos awarding the

2508
01:45:49,199 --> 01:45:51,440
recipients of the 2025 childcare grant

2509
01:45:51,440 --> 01:45:53,600
program and authorizing exe the

2510
01:45:53,600 --> 01:45:55,760
execution of agreements for receipt of

2511
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,639
grant funds with Shu Academy preschool

2512
01:45:58,639 --> 01:46:01,830
$35,654

2513
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:03,440
TBD/curious

2514
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:06,880
beans by Shu Academy $100,000 and Bright

2515
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:11,750
Horizons $100,000.

2516
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:13,440
» Second

2517
01:46:13,440 --> 01:46:15,199
through the through the acting mayor.

2518
01:46:15,199 --> 01:46:16,400
Um, I just want to make sure the

2519
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:18,159
condition you talked about before was

2520
01:46:18,159 --> 01:46:20,560
included in the motion.

2521
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:24,149
>> Um, and conditioning the $100,000 for

2522
01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:24,159
» Um, and conditioning the $100,000 for

2523
01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:26,480
Curious Beans by Shoe Academy to be

2524
01:46:26,480 --> 01:46:31,520
distributed um during construction.

2525
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,870
>> Second. Okay. I have a motion and

2526
01:46:32,870 --> 01:46:32,880
» Second. Okay. I have a motion and

2527
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,159
second. Crystal, can you call the role,

2528
01:46:34,159 --> 01:46:35,440
please?

2529
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:36,550
>> Council member Leighton,

2530
01:46:36,550 --> 01:46:36,560
» Council member Leighton,

2531
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:37,350
>> I.

2532
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:37,360
» I.

2533
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:38,870
>> Council member McDall,

2534
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:38,880
» Council member McDall,

2535
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,109
>> yes. Vice Mayor Rack,

2536
01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:41,119
» yes. Vice Mayor Rack,

2537
01:46:41,119 --> 01:46:42,149
>> uh, no.

2538
01:46:42,149 --> 01:46:42,159
» uh, no.

2539
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:43,430
>> Council member Dugan,

2540
01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:43,440
» Council member Dugan,

2541
01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:47,189
>> yes. and mayor is recused. Thank you.

2542
01:46:47,189 --> 01:46:47,199
» yes. and mayor is recused. Thank you.

2543
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:50,390
>> Motion passes 3, two, one. All right.

2544
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:50,400
» Motion passes 3, two, one. All right.

2545
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,880
Thank you.

2546
01:46:52,880 --> 01:47:43,669
Call the mayor back.

2547
01:47:43,679 --> 01:47:45,679
Uh, madame mayor, members of of the

2548
01:47:45,679 --> 01:47:47,679
council, I will go ahead and recuse

2549
01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:49,840
myself for this nice next item as it

2550
01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:54,950
relates to me.

2551
01:47:54,960 --> 01:48:02,950
» Okay.

2552
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,119
Okay, Madame Mayor and members of the

2553
01:48:05,119 --> 01:48:07,920
city council, um, tonight you're

2554
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,760
considering adopting a resolution

2555
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:12,320
approving the interim city manager

2556
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,960
agreement, including a 5% base pay

2557
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,360
increase during the time of the interim

2558
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:19,600
assignment.

2559
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:22,000
Uh, the council uh, on November 24th,

2560
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,320
the council appointed Nell Blackburn as

2561
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,560
interim city manager effective January

2562
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,080
16th.

2563
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,560
Um, this item is placed before the city

2564
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,159
council to extend the term of the

2565
01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:33,840
temporary assignment pay contained in

2566
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:35,360
the management salary and benefit

2567
01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,760
resolution to coincide with the full

2568
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,880
term of the interim assignment.

2569
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,719
Under section three of the management

2570
01:48:42,719 --> 01:48:44,239
salary and benefits resolution, the

2571
01:48:44,239 --> 01:48:46,000
temporary assignment only allows for an

2572
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:49,679
increase of pay of 5% and it's limited

2573
01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:52,480
to the first 30 days. But the the

2574
01:48:52,480 --> 01:48:54,239
provision

2575
01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:56,000
doesn't really contemplate the situation

2576
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:57,840
you're in now. contemplates the city

2577
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:01,119
manager being able to um extend the 5%

2578
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:03,040
pay but because the position involved as

2579
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,159
a city manager um council has to decide

2580
01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:08,719
whether to increase this I mean to

2581
01:49:08,719 --> 01:49:11,119
extend this

2582
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:13,280
and uh the extension is required because

2583
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:16,480
the um recruitment schedule for the um

2584
01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:18,960
for the placement of a permanent city

2585
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:21,280
manager is very likely to go beyond the

2586
01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:25,600
30 days provided in the resolution.

2587
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:27,199
Um

2588
01:49:27,199 --> 01:49:30,159
so under under the um agreement that's

2589
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:33,280
proposed with the continuation of the 5%

2590
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:35,199
increase the interim city manager's

2591
01:49:35,199 --> 01:49:37,760
monthly salary would increase to

2592
01:49:37,760 --> 01:49:40,639
$28,85153

2593
01:49:40,639 --> 01:49:43,360
per month.

2594
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:46,239
Um Miss Blackburn has accepted the

2595
01:49:46,239 --> 01:49:48,960
appointment effective January 16th as

2596
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:50,560
well as the compensation arrangement

2597
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:53,360
proposed. There are no other changes to

2598
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,320
her current compensation package

2599
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,080
and and the the resolution will not

2600
01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,760
otherwise affect her current employment

2601
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,080
status with the city.

2602
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:04,320
So that is the end of the presentation.

2603
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,159
I'm available to answer any other

2604
01:50:06,159 --> 01:50:08,000
questions

2605
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,639
of the council.

2606
01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:12,229
>> Thank you Greg. We'll now move to

2607
01:50:12,229 --> 01:50:12,239
» Thank you Greg. We'll now move to

2608
01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:22,950
council questions.

2609
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:24,480
Vice Mayor Rack.

2610
01:50:24,480 --> 01:50:26,470
>> Thank you. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um,

2611
01:50:26,470 --> 01:50:26,480
» Thank you. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Um,

2612
01:50:26,480 --> 01:50:29,119
Greg, sorry. Can you just I I missed the

2613
01:50:29,119 --> 01:50:31,520
part you said. So, it allows 30 days

2614
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,960
extension and then this obviously this

2615
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,360
process for hiring process would go

2616
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,560
longer than 30 days. Um, are we today

2617
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,320
looking at extending that? Do we have to

2618
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,400
come back every 30 days to if we wanted

2619
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:46,000
to extend that? What's What are we

2620
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:48,550
>> No. What what you're doing tonight is

2621
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:48,560
» No. What what you're doing tonight is

2622
01:50:48,560 --> 01:50:51,920
extending uh the resolution says you're

2623
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:56,480
extending the 5% um increase for

2624
01:50:56,480 --> 01:50:59,840
assignments um

2625
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,719
beyond the 30 days to coincide with the

2626
01:51:02,719 --> 01:51:04,560
position of the interim assignment. So

2627
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,119
when the inter assignment ends the 5%

2628
01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:07,760
will end.

2629
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,790
>> Got it. Okay. Thank you for that. No

2630
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:10,800
» Got it. Okay. Thank you for that. No

2631
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:15,270
further questions madam m.

2632
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:22,070
We'll now move on to public comment.

2633
01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:23,440
Crystal, do we have any public comments?

2634
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:25,430
>> There are no hands from members of the

2635
01:51:25,430 --> 01:51:25,440
» There are no hands from members of the

2636
01:51:25,440 --> 01:51:27,840
public in person and there are no hands

2637
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,400
on Zoom. Thank you.

2638
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:34,629
>> I will entertain a motion.

2639
01:51:34,639 --> 01:51:36,880
» Um, Madame Mayor, I move to adopt

2640
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:39,840
resolution 2026-7,

2641
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:41,830
>> a resolution of the city council, the

2642
01:51:41,830 --> 01:51:41,840
» a resolution of the city council, the

2643
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:43,599
city of St. Carlos approving the interim

2644
01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:46,400
city manager agreement including a 5%

2645
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,400
base pay increase.

2646
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:52,229
>> Second

2647
01:51:52,239 --> 01:51:53,280
take.

2648
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:55,030
>> Council member Dugan.

2649
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:55,040
» Council member Dugan.

2650
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:55,350
>> Yes.

2651
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:55,360
» Yes.

2652
01:51:55,360 --> 01:51:56,390
>> Council member Leighton.

2653
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:56,400
» Council member Leighton.

2654
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:56,790
>> Yes.

2655
01:51:56,790 --> 01:51:56,800
» Yes.

2656
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:58,070
>> Council member Mcdall.

2657
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:58,080
» Council member Mcdall.

2658
01:51:58,080 --> 01:51:58,470
>> Yes.

2659
01:51:58,470 --> 01:51:58,480
» Yes.

2660
01:51:58,480 --> 01:51:59,430
>> Vice Mayor Rack.

2661
01:51:59,430 --> 01:51:59,440
» Vice Mayor Rack.

2662
01:51:59,440 --> 01:51:59,750
>> Yes.

2663
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:59,760
» Yes.

2664
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:01,430
>> And Mayor Benitesh.

2665
01:52:01,430 --> 01:52:01,440
» And Mayor Benitesh.

2666
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:02,950
>> Yes.

2667
01:52:02,950 --> 01:52:02,960
» Yes.

2668
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,719
Madame Mayor, I'm I'm just being a

2669
01:52:04,719 --> 01:52:07,199
stickler because the Brown Act says I'm

2670
01:52:07,199 --> 01:52:08,719
supposed to announce it after you've

2671
01:52:08,719 --> 01:52:10,639
made the decision even though I included

2672
01:52:10,639 --> 01:52:12,800
it in the staff report that the monthly

2673
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:19,270
salary is increasing to $28,85153.

2674
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:23,270
» Thank you, Greg.

2675
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:25,440
» Um item 11. Are there any items for

2676
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:31,270
agenda setting this evening?

2677
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:32,960
questions around that. Madam Mayor, if I

2678
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:33,599
can go ahead.

2679
01:52:33,599 --> 01:52:36,390
>> Um, and based on the child care

2680
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:36,400
» Um, and based on the child care

2681
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,880
discussion that we had, Greg, is it

2682
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,239
appropriate? I know we sort of have a

2683
01:52:40,239 --> 01:52:41,599
process to notice it, but since it was

2684
01:52:41,599 --> 01:52:43,119
an agenda item today, is that something

2685
01:52:43,119 --> 01:52:46,320
I can request that we look at the NOA

2686
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:49,199
and the policy at a to agendaize if the

2687
01:52:49,199 --> 01:52:51,280
council's amendable to it? I I think

2688
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,440
since it came up tonight as an issue and

2689
01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:55,679
you didn't have time to ask in advance

2690
01:52:55,679 --> 01:52:57,760
really um that we you could certainly

2691
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,280
ask the council if they want to bring it

2692
01:52:59,280 --> 01:52:59,920
back.

2693
01:52:59,920 --> 01:53:01,589
>> Okay. Well, then I would ask that

2694
01:53:01,589 --> 01:53:01,599
» Okay. Well, then I would ask that

2695
01:53:01,599 --> 01:53:03,679
question. Um does the mayor have to

2696
01:53:03,679 --> 01:53:05,599
recuse herself from this one again or is

2697
01:53:05,599 --> 01:53:08,800
she okay to sit here while I ask that

2698
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:09,440
question?

2699
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:11,589
>> Yeah, that's a good question. I I think

2700
01:53:11,589 --> 01:53:11,599
» Yeah, that's a good question. I I think

2701
01:53:11,599 --> 01:53:14,159
that um you're not making a decision

2702
01:53:14,159 --> 01:53:15,920
right now. So, you're only making a

2703
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,599
decision to agendaize it. So, I think

2704
01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:19,440
that we're safe from her not having to

2705
01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:21,520
step down. Um, but she cannot

2706
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,119
participate in the in the vote because

2707
01:53:23,119 --> 01:53:24,159
she's recent.

2708
01:53:24,159 --> 01:53:25,589
>> Thank you.

2709
01:53:25,589 --> 01:53:25,599
» Thank you.

2710
01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:26,790
>> Can I ask a cl Sorry.

2711
01:53:26,790 --> 01:53:26,800
» Can I ask a cl Sorry.

2712
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:27,350
>> Yeah, sure.

2713
01:53:27,350 --> 01:53:27,360
» Yeah, sure.

2714
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,350
>> I I just had a clarifying question. Does

2715
01:53:29,350 --> 01:53:29,360
» I I just had a clarifying question. Does

2716
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:31,920
staff usually bring back the NOA before

2717
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:33,840
the next round? Is that part of their

2718
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:35,760
process? So, we would

2719
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,589
>> I thought I thought it comes back I

2720
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:37,599
» I thought I thought it comes back I

2721
01:53:37,599 --> 01:53:40,880
thought I remember the NOA was part of

2722
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:42,560
something that the council considered,

2723
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:44,560
but I I can't remember off the top of my

2724
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,280
head. Okay. came back this time, right?

2725
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:48,000
I don't remember.

2726
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,070
>> We did we did approve the NOA because we

2727
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:50,080
» We did we did approve the NOA because we

2728
01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,840
took out the formula matching

2729
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,159
requirement and then they went out and

2730
01:53:54,159 --> 01:53:56,239
published the NOA. You know, it was like

2731
01:53:56,239 --> 01:53:57,840
a step-by-step process.

2732
01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:59,350
>> And I can't remember if that was two

2733
01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:59,360
» And I can't remember if that was two

2734
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:00,960
years ago when you started the program

2735
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:02,960
and the NOA has wasn't changed since

2736
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:04,159
then or if we came back.

2737
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,229
>> It was changed because the first NOA had

2738
01:54:06,229 --> 01:54:06,239
» It was changed because the first NOA had

2739
01:54:06,239 --> 01:54:08,080
the formula matching and then the second

2740
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:10,800
NOA for this round removed the formula

2741
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:12,400
matching and made a couple of other

2742
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:13,760
little tweaks and I feel like that came

2743
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:16,080
to the council. So I'm I I think I

2744
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,159
absolutely agree we should you know look

2745
01:54:18,159 --> 01:54:20,560
at the NOA. I'm I'm wondering if that's

2746
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:22,000
pre-programmed and

2747
01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,470
>> already in due course. Yeah. Okay.

2748
01:54:24,470 --> 01:54:24,480
» already in due course. Yeah. Okay.

2749
01:54:24,480 --> 01:54:26,470
>> So can I ask this in two points? If it

2750
01:54:26,470 --> 01:54:26,480
» So can I ask this in two points? If it

2751
01:54:26,480 --> 01:54:29,679
is already um pre-programmed then I

2752
01:54:29,679 --> 01:54:31,520
would we don't need to agendaize it. If

2753
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:35,040
it is not then I would ask that we get

2754
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,840
support to get support to agendaize it

2755
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,320
to look at it.

2756
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:42,159
I I'll just chime in to say I think the

2757
01:54:42,159 --> 01:54:43,920
subcommittee can take a look at it and

2758
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,080
and bring it back around. If if they

2759
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:48,880
don't then I would support you agenda

2760
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,119
agendaizing it formally, but I think we

2761
01:54:51,119 --> 01:54:52,960
can let the process work here.

2762
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:54,470
>> So, but are you saying you'd like to let

2763
01:54:54,470 --> 01:54:54,480
» So, but are you saying you'd like to let

2764
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,400
the subcommi you're requesting the

2765
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,400
subcommittee look at it and then bring

2766
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:01,040
it back if there's any recommendations

2767
01:55:01,040 --> 01:55:03,510
>> to the full council?

2768
01:55:03,510 --> 01:55:03,520
» to the full council?

2769
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,109
>> That's right. I mean, we set a new

2770
01:55:05,109 --> 01:55:05,119
» That's right. I mean, we set a new

2771
01:55:05,119 --> 01:55:06,719
precedent tonight, so I would expect

2772
01:55:06,719 --> 01:55:12,229
that to come back around.

2773
01:55:12,239 --> 01:55:14,480
Sarah and I love meeting, so we're happy

2774
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:16,480
to meet

2775
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:17,990
>> more meetings. Thank you.

2776
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:18,000
» more meetings. Thank you.

2777
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:26,550
>> You're welcome.

2778
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:28,560
» Oh, are there any We just said agenda. I

2779
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,119
We're journed with that. We're ajourned.

2780
01:55:31,119 --> 01:55:34,440
Thank you everyone.