Arts and Culture Committee Meeting August 24, 2026

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[0:02] I just call me college.
[0:05] I first would like to call uh the royal.
[0:07] Let's call the royal Jessica
[0:09] » Present.
[0:14] Amanda
[0:16] » Present.
[0:18] Amanda
[0:20] and Shane's here. Y and Mike here.
[0:26] And Danielle is not here.
[0:32] All right. Uh to get started, let's say
[0:42] I to the flag of the United States of
[0:46] America and to the republic for which it
[0:49] stands. One nation under God,
[0:52] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[0:54] for all.
[1:02] We have special presentation.
[1:06] » You have
[1:10] » Any oral comments?
[1:12] » No, I don't have any cards.
[1:14] » I don't know if this is the right place
[1:16] to bring it up, but the um at the
[1:20] council meeting
[1:21] » This. Sorry, I this is for members of
[1:22] the public who are here to comment. So
[1:24] if this is committee member comments,
[1:26] you want to wait for the end on that.
[1:27] » Okay.
[1:33] Wait for it.
[1:41] A man is president. 54.
[1:48] No more comments. All business.
[1:52] All business implementation of FY202627
[1:57] code support plan and insp of
[2:00] subcommittees.
[2:03] Okay.
[2:04] » So if I can just really give you a a
[2:05] brief staff report. Um you'll see the
[2:07] attachment includes a resolution. This
[2:09] is the resolution that council adopted
[2:11] including your work plan. The only
[2:12] modification the council made was the
[2:14] removal of the amphitheater.
[2:16] uh they are supportive of some level of
[2:19] ad hoc group from the arts and culture
[2:21] committee continuing to give feedback to
[2:24] staff. Um but they did remove that
[2:26] element. So this evening we would be
[2:28] looking for the committee to develop how
[2:32] they're going to how we're going to do
[2:33] this. Um whether that's the
[2:35] establishment of subcommittees or um
[2:37] whatever that pathway looks like. And
[2:39] then from there the subcommittees can
[2:41] meet and go through um action and then
[2:44] bring those items back to the committee
[2:46] as a whole at some point.
[2:52] » So will we have conversation about that
[2:55] and probably establish a subcommittee
[2:57] now?
[3:00] So you would want to look at the work
[3:01] plan as is attached and you u most most
[3:04] commissions and committees will go item
[3:06] to item and determine how they want them
[3:08] to be um managed. So whether that's a
[3:11] subcommittee that gets um established or
[3:13] whether it's something that staff can
[3:15] bring back at some point. So I would
[3:17] just go down the list.
[3:23] » Item number four, new business. New
[3:26] » You you'll want to take action on that
[3:28] though. So this is this is the only item
[3:30] for the agenda tonight. So
[3:31] » Oh, okay.
[3:32] » It's attached
[3:36] to
[3:38] the community.
[3:40] » Yes.
[3:44] » All right. First one, project number
[3:45] one, public arts improvements and
[3:48] installations.
[3:53] Identify advance opportunities for
[3:55] public art including utility boxes,
[3:58] murals, artistic crosswalks, status and
[4:00] other installations, development
[4:02] recommendations for potential projects,
[4:05] locations and partnerships and funding.
[4:08] Uh says estimated project cost.
[4:13] The cost involved is included and as
[4:15] city
[4:17] and who's on the south
[4:19] » Did we establish the committee on this
[4:21] one last I think. No, not yet. Oh, so I
[4:24] think we have
[4:24] » So you want to Yeah, I don't think we've
[4:26] established it. I think there was
[4:27] conversations about it, but now that
[4:28] it's adopted, we can finalize the
[4:30] subcommittee. That would be the goal
[4:32] tonight.
[4:32] » I think this is kind of like the
[4:34] reformation and slight expansion of the
[4:37] utility box committee that existed um
[4:40] before
[4:42] um but also includes like the mural
[4:45] space, you know, questions from city
[4:46] council and so forth. and I'm interested
[4:48] in continuing to serve on that committee
[4:50] um as the only person from the utility
[4:53] box group that's left
[4:54] » If if uh there's room for me.
[4:57] » Sorry, I agree with uh I would like
[5:00] command on that. So I second that
[5:03] motion. Um
[5:05] I can nominate myself for that this one
[5:08] as well too and then
[5:10] » I would love to say
[5:13] one artist on that.
[5:14] » Yeah. Yeah, definitely Jessica. Yeah.
[5:17] » Okay. So, um,
[5:20] » Um,
[5:22] yeah, it's max of three, right? So,
[5:24] » Max of three, but I I can put forward
[5:27] that motion.
[5:28] » Make a motion to get all three on. Well,
[5:31] you already on
[5:32] » Assuming that there's other ones. Amanda
[5:34] might want, which I think. Well,
[5:36] actually I just wanted to make a comment
[5:38] but um regarding the artistic crosswalks
[5:41] and I I did not present it at the last
[5:44] um arts and culture committee and I
[5:47] think I have a quick PowerPoint
[5:48] presentation about what I was referring
[5:51] to with our artistic crosswalks and um
[5:54] Deb can you it's just a brief overview
[5:57] uh really brief.
[6:01] [clears throat]
[6:04] Okay. So, just um what I purposely
[6:07] wanted to do is just modify the art and
[6:08] public spaces policy plan. Next slide,
[6:10] please. And to incorporate in the
[6:14] installation of public art on crosswalks
[6:16] and public spaces. And originally it was
[6:18] going to be for the 250th anniversary,
[6:21] but then I thought, how about the 100th
[6:23] anniversary of the city of Englemen and
[6:25] the Olympics? Um and so basically just
[6:29] to broaden another art medium for
[6:31] artists to express themselves and it
[6:34] just um helps with you know inclusivity
[6:37] and uh you know the diversity artistic
[6:40] or diversity in the urban art display.
[6:42] Next slide please. And so basically this
[6:45] was just uh you know there was no
[6:47] physical physical impact in just
[6:50] speaking about this and of course we
[6:52] would be you know looking for funding
[6:54] and potential funding on that. Um next
[6:57] slide please and then the benefit is
[7:00] just the idea is to bring forth this for
[7:04] the 100th anniversary of city of St.
[7:07] Clemeni, Spanish village by the sea and
[7:09] for uh the Olympics to uh demonstrate
[7:13] our civic pride, our community spirit
[7:16] and just you know uh promote a sense of
[7:18] belonging and togetherness and I think
[7:21] that would be great for for schools um
[7:24] organization and artist and basically to
[7:27] promote uh volunteerism
[7:29] um basically next slide please and it's
[7:33] just for you beautifification and I
[7:35] think I touched upon Uh in 2018 the the
[7:39] painting uh the Olympics values at Guin
[7:43] Olympic Village uh where art initiative
[7:46] created during the Olympic Winter Games
[7:48] uh by Pu Yang Chang on 2018 within the
[7:51] scope of the artists and basically just
[7:54] led where a lot of artists were able to
[7:58] uh work on this project. So it was
[8:00] really great that that was able they
[8:02] were able to do that. So, um, and then
[8:06] they also did the design crosswave
[8:08] treatments. Um, and that was really
[8:10] great to do, um, to do that as well. I
[8:13] think that was for the Atlanta, um, in
[8:15] downtown Olympic, uh, downtown Atlanta
[8:18] during the, um, the soccer um, next
[8:23] slide, please. And they also did painted
[8:25] utility boxes as well, which is really
[8:27] great. Um, and then let's see. And of
[8:31] course this was just the background that
[8:33] they already we have the framework for
[8:35] that and just wanted to add that in. Um
[8:39] and unfortunately I wasn't able to do it
[8:40] for the the patriotic crosswalk but
[8:44] however this idea also was for the the
[8:46] Olympics of the 100th um anniversary and
[8:50] someone as a St. Clary resident of over
[8:51] 55 years. um not close there. I mean,
[8:55] but um I'm halfway there, [snorts] but
[8:57] that's why I just wanted to do that.
[8:59] Just kind of mention this and because it
[9:01] was something that I had the idea and
[9:04] through uh other things that other
[9:06] students have done that in Great
[9:08] Barington and uh Massachusetts and the
[9:11] city of Monterey did that as well for uh
[9:14] our 250th anniversary. So, I think
[9:16] that's I just wanted to mention that
[9:18] just to kind of go forward for the
[9:20] people who are going to be on the
[9:21] subcommittee. Thank you.
[9:24] » Thanks so much. I just wanted to clarify
[9:27] for a question I guess for Samantha
[9:30] because I know that's such a compelling
[9:31] addition and a new possible application
[9:33] and it's already included in the work
[9:34] plan. So is any further action needed at
[9:36] this time or is that sufficient for you
[9:39] know the crosswalks to just be um
[9:42] » Yes plan um and it sounds like we have
[9:46] at three members that are interested in
[9:48] the subcommittee. Would there be um so
[9:51] all we would be looking for then is a a
[9:53] motion and a second and a vote to for
[9:55] that those subcommittees the sub
[9:57] subcommittee members to be established.
[9:59] » Okay.
[10:01] » So I'll make a motion that we vote
[10:04] on members.
[10:11] Yeah. We're on the we're [laughter]
[10:13] proposing ourselves
[10:17] motion.
[10:18] » Okay. All in favor?
[10:20] » I all
[10:23] subcommittee effects.
[10:25] » Did have a one note on the sort of knock
[10:28] on the submit like on the proposal
[10:30] demand Q just presented. Um there is a
[10:33] subcommittee on here for you know the
[10:35] Olympics and centennial planning. So I'm
[10:38] you know that might work better on that
[10:41] comm. I'm not sure because it's that at
[10:42] least in that mockup was very specific
[10:44] for the Centennial. So,
[10:46] » Right. And then there was one in in
[10:48] China for
[10:49] » That. Right.
[10:52] » I think in terms of a pool might make
[10:54] more sense, but that's something
[10:58] » I had the same thought,
[11:00] » But I guess we'll get to that one in a
[11:02] little bit anyways. Okay.
[11:05] So, we're in the number two. Yeah.
[11:09] Project name number two, cultural events
[11:12] and programming purpose, goals and
[11:14] deliverables projects.
[11:17] Explore and support cultural events and
[11:20] programming including deo
[11:28] and your favorite the tamalei festival.
[11:31] Evaluate event concepts, partnerships,
[11:34] locations and uh resources.
[11:37] So, we're going to need a subcommittee
[11:38] for that.
[11:39] » I would love to be on that subcommittee
[11:41] that first one. Well, yeah, on this arts
[11:45] and culture committee,
[11:47] » Anyone else?
[11:51] » So, I'll make a motion that uh Amanda
[11:55] committee
[11:56] » Would you be interested in that too? Did
[11:57] you do the I'm trying to think of what
[11:59] what the committee was before?
[12:01] » Shane and I
[12:02] » Yeah, Shane and I was on it last to have
[12:05] the continuity. Um, could I make a
[12:08] proposal that you're join?
[12:10] » Yes.
[12:13] » I'd like to propose that Sherman also
[12:16] [laughter]
[12:19] » I second.
[12:21] » I think Yeah, definitely.
[12:24] » We Is there just Can we just do two on
[12:26] that one? We don't have to have three,
[12:28] but Right. Yeah. Cuz then I'll just
[12:30] propose you to handle. That's That works
[12:32] for me now.
[12:33] » Okay. We last night.
[12:35] » Yeah. And yeah, it's perfect.
[12:37] » You could also I know we have a
[12:38] committee member who's absent but
[12:40] » Oh, you may volunteer.
[12:46] » How many you can?
[12:50] It seems like
[12:51] » She does have a she has a pretty big
[12:53] background and um marketing and I
[12:56] believe
[12:57] » Branding and things like that. So,
[12:59] » Sure. She's getting the emails.
[13:01] » Okay.
[13:02] » I dominate proposals.
[13:05] I think we should nominate nominate
[13:06] Daniel.
[13:07] » Yeah. Okay.
[13:08] » Yeah, absolutely.
[13:10] » I take a vote. All in favor of uh the
[13:13] new member on this subcommittee would be
[13:16] Amanda and Daniel. I'm I'm already on.
[13:18] » So, you have Do we have a motion for a
[13:22] vote?
[13:22] » I'll put forward a motion to have
[13:24] Sherman, uh Danielle, and Amanda Q on
[13:28] the subcommittee for cultural events and
[13:31] programming.
[13:32] » Thank you.
[13:35] Yes. Yes.
[13:37] » All in favor?
[13:39] » I
[13:39] » I
[13:43] take
[13:44] » I just wanted to talk briefly about
[13:46] this. Um I
[13:50] the reason why this was you know the the
[13:52] proposal was just honoring the Hispanic
[13:55] Latino tradition and of course the
[13:57] Spanish village by the sea and just to
[14:00] be inclusive of the foods that and
[14:02] cultural roots that go back uh decades.
[14:05] And then the the mission of the town
[14:07] like this is to celebrate the Latino
[14:09] culture support local businesses and the
[14:12] tri city level and bring the community
[14:14] together during the holiday season. As
[14:16] someone who lives at M by Mford Park, I
[14:18] thought, you know, this is a great way
[14:20] to uh encourage and support our Latino
[14:24] community. And as a Latino, I really
[14:26] appreciate that. [snorts] And then um I
[14:28] had mentioned before u my background was
[14:31] that my family would make, you know,
[14:33] tamales and the type of tamales that we
[14:36] would make is um with uh banana leaf. So
[14:39] it was really interesting. Yeah. So it
[14:42] was um one of the things that uh was
[14:45] really special and you would give out to
[14:46] to neighbors and that but uh the fiscal
[14:49] impact of the phys we would you know
[14:51] look into that as a subcommittee. Um,
[14:54] and then as far as any partnerships like
[14:57] such as the Gina Point Chamber of
[14:58] Commerce and maybe possibly our Chamber
[15:02] of Commerce and and other and and also
[15:04] restaurants and I have not been able to
[15:06] do that because I didn't want to I
[15:08] wanted to avoid the brand act violation
[15:10] and then of course it just would be it
[15:13] would be beneficial to our city to be
[15:15] inclusive and uh ideal for organizations
[15:19] and to promote uh small businesses like
[15:23] uh restaurants like I know Siesta had
[15:25] closed and I think they're um you know
[15:28] going through some you know things to do
[15:30] that so that I know that they're doing
[15:32] um their catering and I have not
[15:35] presented to them but just thinking an
[15:37] idea just from businesses
[15:41] » Absolutely so um I just think that it
[15:44] would be a great thing there's other
[15:45] places like um Plantia that's been doing
[15:49] it for 33 years that's [snorts] been
[15:52] doing unit since 1996 and whether it
[15:55] starts small and just grows but I think
[15:58] that financially that if we get support
[16:00] from the tri city area that that would
[16:03] be really great to do. So hopefully
[16:05] fingers crossed and let's see it's the
[16:07] beginning of something. So thank you
[16:09] appreciate it.
[16:13] Okay, number three.
[16:16] Um, moving on to number three would be
[16:19] funding, partnerships and scholarships.
[16:23] Purpose
[16:23] » Sponsorship and sponsorship um purpose,
[16:27] goals and deliverables and projects.
[16:28] Identify grants, scholarships,
[16:31] sponsorships, partnerships, and other
[16:33] outside resources to support arts and
[16:35] culture programming and projects.
[16:39] Okay.
[16:41] I'd like to work on this one. Uh I'd
[16:44] been doing some work on the amphitheater
[16:46] and I'd started looking at funding and
[16:49] over the weekend I I did some more
[16:52] research and came up with a number of
[16:54] other new ideas that might be a starting
[16:58] point for the subcommittee
[17:00] to see what's worthwhile. And they're
[17:02] they're items for um a lot of them are
[17:06] for more structural things like the
[17:07] amphitheater, but there's there's other
[17:10] u uh avenues for like art installations
[17:16] and and so forth that might work. So I'm
[17:19] interested in working on this one.
[17:24] » I'd be interested in turning Mike on
[17:26] this one. Not not because I think I have
[17:28] a like the answer to it, but for the
[17:31] utility box project, we successfully
[17:32] raised both um local nonprofit support
[17:35] for one of them and from local
[17:37] restaurant private sector support. So as
[17:40] a pilot of you know ways to get
[17:42] sponsorships um those both were
[17:44] successful and I've been watching the
[17:47] California um grant support for
[17:50] community based organizations and you
[17:52] know reached out to the plate
[17:53] collaborators and the historical society
[17:55] about opportunities that came up and I'm
[17:57] happy to continue serving um in that
[18:00] role. Samantha, I'd love some maybe
[18:02] guidance when we see opportunities from
[18:04] you, like what role the city can have
[18:06] related to a local organization and
[18:09] whether we could ever co-apply or just,
[18:11] you know, support somebody else in in
[18:13] applying, you know, when the city is
[18:15] applicant, when the committee is the
[18:17] applicant or when the local organization
[18:18] is applicant. I don't really understand
[18:20] the like the rules about that stuff.
[18:22] » Yeah. Um, and I I think it's case by
[18:25] case basis. It depends on the dollar
[18:27] amount and the the agency funding
[18:30] source. Yeah. So that's something the
[18:32] sub the subcommittee could certainly
[18:35] understand that
[18:36] » Absolutely guidance.
[18:38] » Is there any other interest in this
[18:41] group from anyone else?
[18:42] » Yes. Me
[18:45] would like to be honest too. I had
[18:47] mentioned this in other meetings we had
[18:49] in the past about uh grants, you know,
[18:52] getting grants grants for the projects
[18:54] that we have here in the city. And uh
[18:56] yeah,
[18:59] » I can uh put forward a motion
[19:02] Sherman, Amanda Greco, and Michael as
[19:06] the committee subcommittee members of
[19:08] the funding partnerships and
[19:10] sponsorships. I second motion. Okay.
[19:13] » All in favor? I oppose.
[19:22] Number four, Olympic Sentinel planning
[19:26] purpose, goals, and deliverables of
[19:28] projects. Identify arts, cultural,
[19:32] historical, and community programs,
[19:34] opportunities associated with city's
[19:36] centennial, and 2028 Olympic Games.
[19:40] » I would love to be on this. Absolutely.
[19:43] Yeah, I would also
[19:48] [laughter]
[19:50] » Okay, I think everybody wants to be on
[19:51] this one.
[19:52] » Not me.
[19:53] » Okay, so we're going to have Michael.
[19:57] I I be interested in it then.
[20:00] » I'm fine if those three
[20:04] are interested. I'm I'm okay not being
[20:06] on it.
[20:06] » Okay. Okay.
[20:08] » So, I like to make a motion. Michael,
[20:10] Amanda, and Shane.
[20:12] » Amanda Q.
[20:13] » Amanda Q
[20:14] » To be on uh this committee.
[20:17] » All in favor?
[20:18] » I second.
[20:20] » All in favor?
[20:21] » I
[20:22] second.
[20:28] Uh number five, my work annual work
[20:31] plan. um purpose, goals, deliverables or
[20:34] projects promote collaboration related
[20:37] to San Clement's historical and cultural
[20:39] resources, including opportunities for
[20:42] interpretation,
[20:43] exhibits, education,
[20:47] preservation, awareness, and community
[20:50] partnerships.
[20:57] Oh, I was just going to say that um I
[21:00] wanted just to full disclosure for
[21:03] transparency. I am a current board
[21:05] member of the St. Clinton Historical
[21:06] Society and I spoke to the city manager
[21:09] recently. So, I just wanted to put that
[21:11] out there. So, I just, you know, wanted
[21:13] to let people know.
[21:15] » Oh, they were
[21:17] no comp.
[21:17] » Are you compensating?
[21:18] » No, there's no Yeah.
[21:20] » But I'm not I'm not going to be on that.
[21:23] But yeah,
[21:24] » I was actually wondering whether there'd
[21:25] be an advantage to that because you
[21:26] would be in the, you know, conversations
[21:28] about strategic goals for the historical
[21:30] society and then be able to bring that
[21:32] to bear in the I don't know. I mean, it
[21:34] doesn't it seems to me like it might
[21:36] just
[21:38] be on it,
[21:38] » Right? No, I just wanted a full
[21:40] disclosure. I just wanted to make sure I
[21:42] don't know. Yeah, Daniel's not here. I
[21:45] don't know if anybody else would want
[21:46] to. So, I just wanted to let you know he
[21:49] » Oh, Daniel's not here. Well, nominate
[21:50] Daniel. I would be I would
[21:53] » Say your teaching background
[21:55] be happy to be on it. I I do think it
[21:58] would be beneficial to have you on it as
[22:00] well.
[22:00] » Okay. Great. Thank you. I appreciate
[22:02] that.
[22:03] » And Danielle
[22:04] » And Daniel,
[22:06] » I can make you go back.
[22:07] » Yeah.
[22:08] » Sorry. Thank you.
[22:10] » I can make a motion uh that
[22:14] Jessa, Danielle, and Amanda be on
[22:17] subcommittee.
[22:19] I send that one. All in favor?
[22:22] » I oppose.
[22:30] All right.
[22:35] Um Samantha, a quick quick question. And
[22:37] in the event that um that Danielle we
[22:40] nominated a couple of these committees
[22:42] if there's you know the attendance is
[22:44] maybe an issue on those ones do can we
[22:46] always reappoint someone else at that at
[22:48] a later stage or
[22:49] » Yes you certainly could you could I
[22:51] guess yeah we'll just cross that
[22:53] » When we get
[22:58] uh number six
[23:04] that
[23:05] number
[23:07] Thank you, Dr. You're on the submitt.
[23:11] » So, you're on to Yeah. six items from
[23:13] committee members. Future number six
[23:17] items from committee members. Um I think
[23:21] Michael, this is where you could you
[23:22] have something you want to.
[23:25] » Well, I guess the uh uh this about
[23:30] participating on the ad hoc basis on the
[23:33] amphitheater. I just like some guidance
[23:36] about u what the parameters with that
[23:40] would be. Am I free to call up the city
[23:45] manager or or um
[23:48] will somebody go forward and ask them to
[23:50] » Yeah, I can um I can connect you. It's
[23:53] it's a at this point it's really managed
[23:55] within the staff internal level. Um but
[23:57] it's it's coming out of the city
[23:58] manager's office in collaboration with
[24:01] myself and a couple of other
[24:02] departments. So let me connect you with
[24:04] that person.
[24:06] » Okay.
[24:11] » Yeah, I have some similar
[24:14] topics on that too. So I would probably
[24:17] maybe work with the city manager on that
[24:19] as well. So some ideas that
[24:25] » I would how do we for that there's some
[24:28] input from you.
[24:30] uh how do you see us going about really
[24:34] uh going to ad hoc subcommittee and
[24:38] giving our input you know as a ad hoc
[24:42] subcommittee?
[24:43] » Yeah. And because it's not on your work
[24:44] plan, it's not going to be a formal
[24:47] subcommittee. Um my recommendation is if
[24:50] each individual committee member has an
[24:53] an idea, you're welcome to email that to
[24:55] myself and the city manager. Um we can
[24:57] manage it that way. Um, but to avoid any
[25:01] kind of Brown Act violation or having
[25:04] any conversation about it, I think it's
[25:06] best if it's just committee member to
[25:08] staff member. Um, I don't know if
[25:10] everybody has an interest in this topic,
[25:12] but if there is a opportunity to come
[25:15] back for for feedback, I think the goal
[25:18] is staff is going to present something
[25:20] to the city council just based on an
[25:22] internal discussion um and kind of
[25:24] planning um and then council can give
[25:26] further direction from there after that
[25:29] exploratory.
[25:30] » Okay. And that's that was my remain
[25:32] concern what you just mentioned because
[25:34] of the Brown Act, you know, cuz we're
[25:35] talking outside of a meeting about that,
[25:39] » Right? and you don't want to talk to
[25:40] each other about it by any means. Um,
[25:43] but you could certainly as a member of
[25:45] the public have an opinion on or a
[25:48] thought and that it's okay to share
[25:50] that. I would just be weary of talking
[25:52] to each other about it.
[25:54] » Okay. Awesome.
[25:56] Anyone else have any other
[25:59] » I'm just uh wondering so what on these
[26:02] subcommittees we've just established
[26:06] uh what's the next step? Does each
[26:08] subcommittee
[26:10] collaborate somehow to uh
[26:13] when they're going to get together and
[26:14] talk or or
[26:15] » Yeah, you would um you would want to
[26:17] coordinate with each other on um your
[26:20] next steps and your your first going
[26:23] forward action. Um and if there's a need
[26:26] to involve staff, you can reach out to
[26:28] myself and Debbie and we'll um try to
[26:30] support you guys however we can.
[26:34] Are there any further comments? Anyway,
[26:36] any thing you want to bring up?
[26:39] Yes.
[26:41] » If there are no further items from
[26:43] committee members, uh we move the number
[26:46] seven. Item number seven to adjourn. So,
[26:50] I'd like to make a motion that uh we
[26:53] adjourn the meeting until October 26,
[26:56] 2026 at 5:00. Okay.
[27:00] This meeting is adjourned.
[27:05] Do we have to?
[27:07] » Yeah, I do need a second. So, I don't
[27:10] need a second. I'll second.
[27:12] » Okay, I'll repeat this meeting is
[27:15] all in favor.
[27:17] I thank you.
[27:21] Appreciate