[0:00] Okay.

[0:00] Good morning.

[0:03] I will now call the special

[0:04] City Council meeting of Monday,

[0:08] JUNE 9th, 2025 to order Deputy

[0:08] clerk please call the roll.

[0:09] >> Councilmember Campbell.

[0:13] Councilmember Whitburn here.

[0:14] Councilmember Foster here

[0:15] Council Member John Wolpert

[0:19] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

[0:19] here.

[0:20] Councilmember Campo here

[0:20] Councilmember Moreno Present

[0:23] Council member Eli Rivera and

[0:23] Council PRESIDENT Lee Carver

[0:27] present also attending

[0:28] the meeting are Assistant City

[0:29] Attorney Michelle Garland,

[0:29] independent budget analyst

[0:33] Charles Monica Council Affairs

[0:34] Advisor in the Mayor's office

[0:34] Curtis Iser and myself your

[0:35] Deputy City Clerk Jennifer

[0:37] Barry.

[0:37] All right.

[0:38] Thank you Deputy Clerk.

[0:38] A quorum is now present.

[0:42] We will begin this morning with

[0:43] the land acknowledgment and

[0:43] the Pledge of Allegiance led by

[0:51] Council member Campo.

[0:52] >> We respectfully acknowledge

[0:52] that the culmination are

[0:56] the original inhabitants of

[0:57] the Unceded land now known as

[0:58] San Diego.

[1:02] Despite enduring the horrors of

[1:02] colonization and genocide,

[1:03] the ice spirit remains

[1:03] unbroken.

[1:07] We honor the resilience of

[1:07] their ancestors who fought to

[1:10] protect their culture and land

[1:11] .

[1:11] Today they carry their legacy

[1:12] forward ensuring that their

[1:16] traditions continue to thrive

[1:16] in gratitude and strength.

[1:20] We stand with the Cuzmy nation

[1:20] connected to our past and

[1:21] committed to a thriving future.

[1:25] Please face the flag.

[1:25] Ready?

[1:25] Begin.

[1:30] I pledge allegiance to the flag

[1:31] of the United States of America

[1:35] and to the Republic for which

[1:36] it stands One nation under GOD,

[1:38] indivisible with liberty and

[1:38] justice for all.

[1:44] >> With that Deputy clerk

[1:49] please go over how the public

[1:49] can offer their public

[1:50] testimony.

[1:50] I would now highlight the slide

[1:52] on the screen that reveals how

[1:53] the public can offer their

[1:54] public testimony during today's

[1:54] meeting.

[1:55] Please note that the time

[1:58] allocations for proclamations

[1:58] consent items for meeting

[1:59] management purposes the order

[2:00] can be found on the agenda

[2:03] Summary found online or at

[2:04] the table in the back of

[2:04] the room.

[2:05] If you're in person please

[2:05] complete a speaker slip located

[2:08] at the entrance of chambers and

[2:09] bring it to the front of

[2:09] the room.

[2:10] Council ambassadors are

[2:10] available near the entrance of

[2:13] chambers and can assist with

[2:13] questions and speaker slips.

[2:14] No further in-person testimony

[2:15] will be taken once the council

[2:20] begins Virtual testimony.

[2:21] All right.

[2:22] With that we will now dispense

[2:22] with the approval of

[2:25] the proclamation item.

[2:26] Deputy Clerk Please proceed

[2:27] with public comment.

[2:27] The public comment period for

[2:30] the proclamation item is now

[2:30] open.

[2:31] Each speaker will have one

[2:31] minute per item per person.

[2:35] The proclamation item being

[2:36] approved is item 600.

[2:40] Uh, we've got a few folks here

[2:40] in council chambers.

[2:43] If allegedly Audra would go

[2:54] ahead and come up because it's

[2:58] not loud at all.

[2:59] >> Um, so as far as this

[3:02] proclamation goes I think

[3:03] what's happening as far as all

[3:07] of the ice stuff is going on

[3:08] because you guys incentivize

[3:12] people to come and have incited

[3:12] these things to happen.

[3:13] I think it is a disservice to

[3:14] immigrants who came here.

[3:17] The legal way and did the right

[3:18] thing went through the process

[3:22] of coming here And you know, it

[3:23] does them a disservice to see

[3:28] that you're you think and just

[3:28] let everybody come in whatever

[3:29] manner that they want.

[3:32] We're going to incentivize Is

[3:33] it they're going to cause chaos

[3:34] in our communities.

[3:34] They're going to rape children

[3:37] in their home.

[3:37] They're going to murder people

[3:38] out on a run.

[3:39] They're going to do a lot of

[3:42] different things and nobody

[3:42] seems to care.

[3:47] You seem to care about ice

[3:47] coming down the pipe when you

[3:48] knew that the federal

[3:51] government was going to come in

[3:52] and do its job.

[3:52] You kept asking for them to.

[3:53] This is their job.

[3:56] This is not our job.

[3:57] That's their job.

[3:57] And now that they're doing it,

[4:01] you guys are setting yourselves

[4:02] up for ice to come into these

[4:02] chambers and hold you

[4:03] accountable for the aiding and

[4:06] abetting and harboring of

[4:06] illegal aliens that you've been

[4:07] doing for years And you wonder

[4:11] why this stuff is happening.

[4:12] You're saying that what Trump

[4:12] does is illegal.

[4:12] No.

[4:15] What you guys have done is

[4:16] illegal and you're setting

[4:17] yourself up and San Diego for

[4:21] some really dire times And it's

[4:22] not fair because nobody asked

[4:22] for that.

[4:25] You wouldn't You guys were so

[4:26] trying to hide the information

[4:30] of them just being here.

[4:31] It was never even something

[4:31] that was talked about like

[4:32] there is an invasion happening

[4:35] on our border Like I

[4:36] continually was telling all of

[4:37] the politicians here in San

[4:40] Diego because I was down at

[4:41] the border collecting their

[4:42] documents, collecting their IDs

[4:45] that they ripped apart even

[4:46] money birth certificates from

[4:47] children who disappeared into

[4:50] our county and the nation

[4:53] The convention center 3200

[4:54] children have gone missing

[4:55] because of you guys.

[4:59] So when ice comes here to these

[4:59] chambers don't question why it

[5:00] happened.

[5:03] Don't question why you're in a

[5:03] jail cell.

[5:04] No, it's because of the choices

[5:05] that you have made and

[5:09] the sodas It's seeds that you

[5:09] have sown.

[5:09] >> Thank you.

[5:13] Seeing no hands in our virtual

[5:14] queue, that concludes public

[5:15] comment on the proclamation

[5:15] items.

[5:15] >> All right.

[5:17] Thank you, Deputy Clerk We'll

[5:18] turn it over to my council

[5:19] colleagues for any questions

[5:19] and entertain a motion and

[5:23] we'll start out with Council

[5:23] President Pro Tem Lee.

[5:24] >> I think Council PRESIDENT

[5:28] I'll speak to item 600 which

[5:29] essentially allow Food festival

[5:30] day proud to bring forward this

[5:33] proclamation alongside council

[5:33] members Campo Foster and Isla

[5:34] Rivera.

[5:34] Recognizing the Lao community

[5:38] and culture and celebrating

[5:39] the upcoming Santa Allow Food

[5:41] Festival which will be

[5:42] the third iteration of this

[5:45] event from JUNE 20th 1st to

[5:45] JUNE 22nd.

[5:46] Lao San Diego will host this

[5:50] third annual Food Festival this

[5:50] year in District seven And

[5:51] the reason behind that for

[5:55] folks who might be curious is

[5:56] because Miramar Community Park

[5:56] is undergoing its Phase two

[6:00] upgrades and renovations And so

[6:01] we think my colleague from

[6:05] District seven as they'll be

[6:05] hosting the event this year

[6:06] it's a two day family friendly

[6:09] event, a celebration of Lao

[6:10] cuisine and culture.

[6:10] It also helps to recognize

[6:14] World Refugee Day an

[6:14] international day to honor

[6:15] the resilience of refugee

[6:16] communities that have made San

[6:19] Diego their home.

[6:20] San Diego happens to be one of

[6:20] the largest populations for Lao

[6:24] Americans and we are a more

[6:25] stronger and vibrant, vibrant

[6:26] because of their culture, their

[6:28] history and the traditions that

[6:29] they've brought here.

[6:30] I think often when we talk

[6:33] about the history of

[6:33] the Vietnam War, one of

[6:34] the discussions that we often

[6:38] don't touch upon is

[6:39] the forgotten war that impacted

[6:40] several neighboring countries

[6:42] and resulted in

[6:43] the displacement of many

[6:43] immigrants from last Cambodia

[6:48] and more attendees who do

[6:48] choose to attend.

[6:49] They'll get to enjoy a variety

[6:52] of Lao food traditional music

[6:53] and dance arts and crafts even

[6:54] some competitions.

[6:57] I understand the spicy papaya

[6:57] salad eating contest is a big

[7:02] hit at this event as well and

[7:02] it brings folks together not

[7:03] just from our region but

[7:06] throughout California and more

[7:07] .

[7:08] This was really heralded in its

[7:08] first year as a significant

[7:12] event across the country So

[7:12] we're certainly proud to honor

[7:13] the contributions of the Lao

[7:15] American community and to help

[7:16] recognize JUNE 21st, 2025 a

[7:16] single Lao food Festival day

[7:21] and thank you again to left San

[7:21] Diego for hosting this

[7:22] incredible celebration and we

[7:22] look forward to seeing them

[7:25] this weekend.

[7:26] >> With that I'll move

[7:27] the proclamation agenda.

[7:27] All right.

[7:28] We have a motion by PRESIDENT

[7:31] Pro Tem Lee.

[7:32] We'll go next to council member

[7:32] Campo.

[7:32] Thank you.

[7:33] Council PRESIDENT I'm honored

[7:34] to join my fellow council

[7:35] members in proclaiming

[7:35] Saturday, JUNE 21st as San

[7:40] Diego Lao Festival Day.

[7:40] The Laotian community has been

[7:43] part of San Diego since

[7:44] the 1970s and before enriching

[7:44] our city with their culture,

[7:48] resilience and deep community

[7:49] roots.

[7:49] And even in my district within

[7:50] the neighborhood of Linda

[7:53] Vista, the Lao Novarum Temple

[7:54] stands as a cultural and

[7:55] spiritual anchor reflecting

[7:55] decades of Lao heritage

[7:58] presence and resilience across

[7:58] San Diego.

[8:02] The Lao Food Festival on

[8:03] the 21st celebrates that legacy

[8:03] and showcases traditional

[8:06] cuisine and music, dance and

[8:07] local entrepreneurs.

[8:07] In honor of World Refugee Day

[8:08] And I'm honored that we'll be

[8:11] able to host it and my

[8:12] community of Allied Gardens and

[8:13] District seven.

[8:16] And with that I will second

[8:16] the proclamations.

[8:17] Thank you.

[8:17] All right.

[8:17] Thank you.

[8:21] Council member will have now a

[8:21] motion by Council PRESIDENT Pro

[8:22] Tem Lee and the second by

[8:24] COUNCILMAN Peel to move

[8:25] the proclamation will go next

[8:26] to council member Whitburn.

[8:30] Thank you Council PRESIDENT I

[8:30] what I thank Council PRESIDENT

[8:31] Pro Tem Lee and Council members

[8:32] Carpio Foster and Isla Rivera

[8:34] for bringing forward San Diego

[8:35] Lao Food Festival de San Diego

[8:39] has such a vibrant Laotian

[8:39] community with organizations

[8:40] like the Lao Community Cultural

[8:44] Center, San Diego Lao heritage

[8:45] working to preserve and promote

[8:49] the culture.

[8:50] And it is a pleasure to join my

[8:50] colleagues at honoring this

[8:51] community.

[8:51] Thank you.

[8:54] Council PRESIDENT All right.

[8:55] Thank you.

[8:55] Council member Whitburn.

[8:56] We'll go next to Councilmember

[8:58] Foster Yes, Thank you.

[8:59] Council PRESIDENT.

[8:59] First I'd like to thank Council

[9:04] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Kent Lee,

[9:05] Councilmember Isla Rivera and

[9:05] Councilmember Campo for

[9:08] bringing forward this

[9:09] proclamation to honor San Diego

[9:09] Lao Food Festival Day.

[9:12] It's important that we take

[9:13] time to recognize the cultural,

[9:17] economic and civic

[9:18] contributions of our Lao

[9:18] community both here in San

[9:19] Diego and across the country.

[9:22] What else?

[9:23] Donate example of this is a Lao

[9:24] food festival itself which not

[9:27] only showcases traditional

[9:28] cuisine but brings people

[9:29] together, drive small business

[9:29] visibility and strengthens

[9:33] community bonds.

[9:33] I've had the privilege of

[9:34] attending Lao cultural events

[9:35] with the Lao community and

[9:38] district for including the Lao

[9:38] New Year celebration.

[9:39] These gatherings reflect

[9:42] the heart of what makes not

[9:43] only District four but the city

[9:44] of San Diego great shared

[9:47] culture community pride and

[9:47] connection across generations.

[9:48] I want to give a special

[9:52] acknowledgment and thank you to

[9:53] Peter Po Town who supports

[9:57] community matters in District

[9:57] four and serves as a board

[9:58] member and public relations

[10:02] director for Lao sd and special

[10:03] thanks to the local community

[10:03] for their contributions, mutual

[10:04] support and commitment to

[10:07] family and neighborhood.

[10:08] >> And that concludes my

[10:08] comments.

[10:09] All right.

[10:09] Thank you.

[10:11] Council member Foster Not

[10:12] seeing anyone else Lights We do

[10:13] have a motion by Council

[10:15] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee and a

[10:16] second by Council member Campo

[10:16] to move the proclamation.

[10:17] Deputy Clerk Please call

[10:19] the roll.

[10:20] I have now started the voting

[10:23] system and you'll go ahead and

[10:28] enter your vote.

[10:33] >> Council member Whitburn

[10:33] There you go.

[10:37] Okay, that passes unanimously.

[10:42] >> All right.

[10:43] Thank you.

[10:43] We will now proceed with

[10:44] the approval of the consent

[10:48] items First, are there any

[10:48] requests to pull an item by

[10:49] the council members not seeing

[10:51] any requests?

[10:52] >> Deputy Clerk Please proceed

[10:53] with public comment on

[10:57] the consent items.

[10:57] Please note each person will

[10:58] have one minute per item per

[10:58] person.

[11:01] If you would like to speak on

[11:01] three or more items you have a

[11:02] maximum of three minutes.

[11:04] The consent agenda includes

[11:09] item 60126 14.

[11:09] I'd also like to note for

[11:10] the record that the potential

[11:11] appointments that are on

[11:14] the agenda this morning are

[11:15] item 6 to 12 is the potential

[11:18] appointment of Michael

[11:18] Singleton to the Balboa Park

[11:19] Committee and item 613 as

[11:23] the potential appointment of

[11:23] Daniel Reeves to the Planning

[11:24] Commission.

[11:24] We have one person here in

[11:28] chambers for public comment You

[11:29] have allegedly Audra if you

[11:33] want to go ahead and come up

[11:34] you have four items So I'm

[11:37] going to put three minutes on

[11:41] the timer, give you a check.

[11:46] You MAY proceed.

[11:47] I MAY not proceed.

[11:47] Sorry.

[11:48] I was like one.

[11:48] Yes.

[11:51] So for this as needed agreement

[11:54] with the two entities regarding

[11:59] services to the water main

[12:00] breaks and sewer backups you

[12:01] know you guys need to make sure

[12:04] that you're taking care of

[12:05] things when it needs to happen

[12:06] instead of, you know, allowing

[12:06] people to lose everything

[12:10] because of your, you know,

[12:11] unwillingness to do what needs

[12:11] to be done.

[12:14] It's funny you guys are so

[12:14] smug.

[12:15] It's like and you act like you

[12:18] do these really great things

[12:19] for the community and you

[12:20] really don't especially when

[12:23] you try and hide all the things

[12:24] that you're doing You can't be

[12:25] transparent And that just shows

[12:25] that when you can't be

[12:29] transparent there's some wrong

[12:30] there And that's that's what's

[12:34] taken place with this entire

[12:34] thing that you guys are dealing

[12:38] with with ice and it's just sad

[12:42] And then we spend money like

[12:43] $6.6 million for rental of you

[12:47] know, traffic and street

[12:48] warning devices Like you spend

[12:48] a lot of money, you waste a lot

[12:52] of money of the people's money

[12:52] .

[12:53] They work really hard and you

[12:54] guys get to sit up here on a

[12:55] dias, go home to a beautiful

[12:57] home.

[12:58] There's people suffering on

[12:58] the streets.

[12:59] I've been telling you about

[13:00] Tent City And that brings me to

[13:02] Balboa Park Committee because

[13:02] it's like Steven, when are you

[13:06] going to go and mitigate what's

[13:07] happening at Tent City?

[13:08] Do people deserve to be raped

[13:11] in like have employees sit

[13:12] there and you know, get people

[13:17] drunk and high and then take

[13:17] them into the bathroom and make

[13:18] them on their?

[13:21] Is that acceptable?

[13:22] Is it acceptable to die there

[13:23] because there's no staff for

[13:26] the people to access the Narcan

[13:26] that they need?

[13:27] Is it acceptable for there to

[13:31] be flooding there for tends to

[13:32] be infested with bugs for them

[13:36] to be given Not even anything

[13:37] that is like anything that you

[13:38] would eat as far as food goes

[13:41] yet we spend millions of

[13:42] dollars You upped down Dreams

[13:46] for Change contract just under

[13:51] $500,000 and the racketeering

[13:51] with that like people are being

[13:55] abused in tent city and you

[13:56] don't care It's really sad but

[13:56] you care about giving Theresa

[14:00] Smith dreams for change some

[14:01] money, right?

[14:01] That doesn't matter.

[14:02] We don't mind giving people

[14:05] money but we don't really need

[14:06] to worry about whether or not

[14:07] they're going to provide

[14:09] the services.

[14:10] I mean because nobody's leaving

[14:14] that place.

[14:15] They're just sitting there

[14:19] sitting and maggots and flies

[14:20] right now You do you want me?

[14:21] I have video of it, dude.

[14:25] And you're sitting here

[14:25] laughing.

[14:26] That's what such a disservice

[14:26] it is.

[14:27] It's a slap in the face And

[14:30] then yeah, do your eyebrows

[14:30] like that, bro, Because it's

[14:31] like that's just like when I

[14:34] came to you and asked you what

[14:34] was going on at the school

[14:35] Elementary school during

[14:39] the count for homeless and you

[14:40] know we're counting

[14:40] the homeless.

[14:40] Yeah.

[14:43] I'm wondering why I came across

[14:43] 50 military age men behind a

[14:48] fence that conclude your time.

[14:48] Thank you.

[14:49] I'm going to go ahead and set

[14:52] our five minute timer here in

[14:52] chambers.

[14:53] We have no more speakers in

[14:56] chambers and take our online

[14:56] folks.

[14:57] We have one person in

[15:01] the online q color ending an

[15:02] 8700 If you could go ahead and

[15:06] unmute.

[15:06] >> There you go.

[15:10] Can you let me know which item,

[15:11] which item or items you'll be

[15:12] speaking to?

[15:15] >> Yes.

[15:16] Thank you.

[15:17] I will be speaking to five

[15:23] items six all four, five, six,

[15:23] eight and 11.

[15:23] >> Okay.

[15:28] We'll put three minutes on

[15:28] the timer for you.

[15:32] >> You can go ahead and proceed

[15:32] .

[15:33] Thank you so much.

[15:37] Deputy City Clerk Barry on all

[15:38] or six of four actually six

[15:41] four 6 or 5 and 6 or 6 104 is a

[15:46] landscape contract with West

[15:47] Turf five is landscape tree

[15:50] beard six is Landscape usa for

[15:55] Scripps Miramar I mostly looked

[16:00] at the contract and there's a

[16:00] continuing thing that's

[16:05] happening where the under

[16:06] served under representative

[16:10] tend to be African-American,

[16:11] Asian and so well not female so

[16:14] much but female is included

[16:15] this time around in these

[16:19] contracts And I just am

[16:24] concerned about that And I look

[16:25] at the workforce report

[16:26] sometimes there's a workforce

[16:28] report there, sometimes there's

[16:29] not If it's 15 and under

[16:30] they're exempt from them.

[16:34] So there's so many different

[16:35] things to look at.

[16:39] I'm stunned just when I think I

[16:39] understand them I don't And

[16:40] because of a lack of

[16:44] information or protocol that I

[16:45] don't understand for how they

[16:45] fill out these reports.

[16:49] But in any case, I don't know

[16:50] how the play is really

[16:51] enforcing all of this and I

[16:54] don't fully understand the play

[16:55] either but I understand it's

[16:58] mostly good So I'm just

[16:59] concerned that this ongoing

[17:03] representation continues and I

[17:04] don't know how it's being

[17:04] addressed.

[17:09] So on 608 the water main Briggs

[17:10] and sewer back up No on this

[17:14] there was an eoc report again

[17:15] unrepresented in those areas I

[17:19] just mentioned with a little

[17:19] addition of female in

[17:20] management and financial I

[17:24] couldn't find a workforce there

[17:28] report there but there's 114

[17:29] admin workforce And one of

[17:29] the things I don't understand

[17:34] in landscape is how why do we

[17:34] need that many admin and

[17:38] the laborers are really much

[17:39] lower So I don't really fully

[17:40] understand that yet.

[17:44] I'll be looking into it on 611

[17:44] I felt really really sad about

[17:48] this when I read about

[17:49] the $80,000 paid to an alleged

[17:53] excessive force during arrest

[17:53] for a dui.

[17:54] So I'll just say this mostly

[17:58] from my heart Anybody who's

[17:59] driving the eye we know how

[18:18] dangerous this is Joy that

[18:19] we're going to set 30 minute or

[18:19] 30s back on your timer.

[18:22] I apologize, sweetie.

[18:27] How much are you giving me And

[18:27] we stopped about 30s so we'll

[18:32] go ahead and put 30s back on.

[18:32] >> That's no problem here.

[18:34] This is a new set for you up

[18:37] there.

[18:38] So anyway, in some ways here

[18:42] you know a lot of it already So

[18:42] good luck with that.

[18:43] Yes.

[18:45] So just finishing up on 611

[18:49] which is the dui $80,000

[18:50] payment to the person that

[18:50] actually was driving under

[18:55] the influence which shocked me

[18:55] and also saddened me.

[19:00] So I love to see pd Anytime you

[19:01] get involved with these scenes,

[19:05] anything it's so subjective.

[19:08] It's so amazing how in a split

[19:09] second or less you have to make

[19:15] a decision for so much that

[19:15] affects you personally in

[19:16] the city.

[19:18] So love all of that very much

[19:19] and thank you.

[19:19] That concludes your time.

[19:20] Apologies for the technical

[19:23] difficulties that as our only

[19:24] virtual caller.

[19:25] So that concludes public

[19:28] testimony on the consent items

[19:28] .

[19:29] All right.

[19:29] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.

[19:30] With that we'll turn over to my

[19:33] council colleagues for any

[19:34] questions and comments and then

[19:35] entertain a motion and we'll

[19:35] start with Council member

[19:36] Whitburn.

[19:39] Thank you.

[19:39] Council PRESIDENT Happy to move

[19:40] the consent agenda.

[19:41] I just want to congratulate

[19:41] District three Michael

[19:43] Singleton at his appointment to

[19:43] the Balboa Park Committee as

[19:44] well as District three is

[19:45] Daniel Reeves on his

[19:47] appointment to the planning

[19:48] Commission.

[19:49] Both MR. Singleton and MR.

[19:49] Reeves have been active in

[19:53] civic affairs for years and I

[19:53] just want to thank them for

[19:54] their continued service to our

[19:54] city.

[19:55] Thank you.

[19:55] All right.

[19:57] So we do have that motion by

[19:58] Council member Whitburn to move

[20:01] the consent items all second,

[20:02] not seeing anybody else on

[20:02] the lights And with that deputy

[20:09] clerk please call the roll.

[20:10] I have turned on the voting

[20:11] system If you can please record

[20:14] your vote If you could try one

[20:14] more time Council member

[20:19] Whitburn and Moreno thank you

[20:19] very much.

[20:24] And that passes unanimously.

[20:24] >> All right.

[20:29] I just will take a yes from

[20:29] Councilmember Moreno and one

[20:34] absent So So with that we will

[20:35] now take up our morning

[20:38] discussion agenda.

[20:38] >> Deputy Clerk please

[20:44] introduce item 6156 15 Item 615

[20:44] is the approval of a request

[20:45] for a conflict of interest

[20:49] waiver from Colleen Tuna

[20:49] Highsmith and Whitely Peachey

[20:50] Citywide.

[20:50] >> Okay.

[20:50] All right.

[20:53] I noticed that two of our

[20:53] colleagues are recusing from

[20:57] this particular item.

[20:57] Do we need a presentation on

[21:02] this one that we have five

[21:06] minutes presentation Five

[21:07] minutes will go at once.

[21:07] You go ahead and do

[21:08] the presentation just to dot

[21:11] the I's and cross the t's.

[21:12] >> Good morning.

[21:12] City Council Senior Deputy City

[21:16] Attorney Ben Seats I'm here

[21:17] today on item 615 which is a

[21:21] request for a conflict of

[21:22] interest waiver by the content

[21:22] of law firm The law firm

[21:23] currently represents us is San

[21:26] Diego in two ongoing lawsuits

[21:27] and they're requesting

[21:32] the waiver to allow them to

[21:32] continue to represent the city

[21:33] and to also represent Lasco in

[21:36] the city's anticipated lawsuit

[21:37] against Lafc related to the La

[21:38] Hoya and Corporation

[21:38] proceedings.

[21:42] The conflict waiver does not

[21:42] pose a risk of any detrimental

[21:43] impact to the city In the city

[21:46] Attorney's office recommends

[21:47] granting the request.

[21:47] >> Please let me know if you

[21:48] have any questions.

[21:51] All right.

[21:52] >> And your name for the record

[21:52] I forgot to ask Senor Deputy

[21:55] City Attorney Ben Seats all

[21:55] right.

[21:55] Thank you for that.

[21:56] With that Deputy clerk please

[22:00] proceed with public comment.

[22:01] >> We have one public commenter

[22:02] here in chambers of allegedly

[22:12] order what come up?

[22:13] >> You MAY proceed.

[22:17] Too bad Steven's gone.

[22:18] Yeah.

[22:18] It's interesting that you guys

[22:19] want to deal with conflicts of

[22:23] interest codes when there's

[22:23] conflicts of interest going on

[22:24] across the board with you guys

[22:28] yet you sit here and you're

[22:29] like This isn't going to affect

[22:29] anything.

[22:32] You can't be trusted because

[22:33] the choices that you guys make

[22:34] lead to really bad things like

[22:38] little girls being raped in

[22:39] their home five years old or

[22:39] the 21 year old her.

[22:42] How cool is that, right?

[22:43] But yeah, let's just keep keep

[22:47] pretending that what we've done

[22:47] is good.

[22:48] Right?

[22:48] And it's interesting that

[22:52] Steven doesn't think that

[22:53] anything that's going on in

[22:53] Tent City is actually happening

[22:54] but yet when I'm exposing it

[22:58] they tend to be asking all of

[22:58] the employees who's giving out

[22:59] the information we need to keep

[23:02] this confidential.

[23:03] We can't be having people talk

[23:04] about what's going on outside

[23:04] of Tent City.

[23:07] You know what?

[23:07] You're fired.

[23:08] So they fire people and then

[23:09] they do You know what else

[23:12] Because they live there too.

[23:12] Then they file complaints

[23:13] against them so that they can

[23:17] set to basically kick them out

[23:18] onto the streets.

[23:18] But I'm sure you'll offer up

[23:22] another solution right?

[23:23] It's disgusting the things that

[23:27] takes place with our money and

[23:27] the abuse of people And you

[23:32] guys sit up there and you're

[23:32] just like horizontal Great.

[23:33] We're just so great going to

[23:34] pat myself on the back.

[23:36] We're going to give ourselves

[23:37] raises, ignore the suffering of

[23:41] people that is going on in

[23:41] the community And exactly for

[23:46] that reason I cannot weigh in

[23:46] until I is in these chambers

[23:50] And you guys are the ones

[23:50] begging and pleading Oh my

[23:51] gosh.

[23:55] >> Oh no we didn't do anything.

[23:56] Yeah you did And you've been

[24:00] warned and you had been for

[24:04] years yet you don't care but

[24:05] perhaps you will when you're in

[24:06] a jail cell and you're just

[24:09] trying to get something to eat

[24:10] and maybe call one of your

[24:11] loved ones And when you're

[24:14] separated from your family

[24:15] because of your choices that

[24:20] concludes your time.

[24:20] We have no more speakers here

[24:21] in chambers so I'm going to set

[24:22] our five minute timer and go to

[24:24] our virtual queue.

[24:25] We have one hand raised and

[24:28] the virtual queue caller ending

[24:29] and 8700 You can go ahead and

[24:33] unmute If you have two minutes

[24:38] you MAY proceed.

[24:38] >> Thank you so much.

[24:41] Joining me out of District 30I

[24:46] don't quite quite know how to

[24:47] speak on this.

[24:47] I'm really coming from

[24:48] the heart and the mind.

[24:50] Hopefully that's a good

[24:51] combination this morning.

[24:55] I respect the office of

[24:56] the City attorney so very very

[25:00] much Yet I know that things can

[25:01] be ministerial and very

[25:02] subjective often in life but

[25:06] I'm I just feel not good about

[25:06] this item.

[25:07] I just think it's almost a

[25:11] conflict of interest to bring

[25:12] it in as an agenda item And

[25:16] then we have the other conflict

[25:16] of interest is to really allow

[25:17] these attorneys to handle this

[25:26] and PRESIDENT LaCava I love a

[25:26] lawyer.

[25:27] It's it's some things I don't

[25:30] like about it but in general

[25:31] it's a wonderful place.

[25:35] And so this is involving whole

[25:36] situation was so high and

[25:40] they're wanting to become a new

[25:41] city and it's going to be a

[25:41] long process.

[25:45] So I just don't feel good about

[25:46] them being represented in other

[25:50] cases for the city and then

[25:51] going sort of with this other

[25:55] firm that really is against us.

[26:00] So I just wish I understood I

[26:00] tried to read all the back up.

[26:04] It was late and I just don't

[26:04] understand risk not involved

[26:05] here.

[26:09] I think there is a risk and and

[26:10] these things might just come up

[26:14] to really haunt So make sure

[26:15] that you really want to do

[26:15] this.

[26:19] I would go on the no side but I

[26:20] respect all of you and thank

[26:20] you for listening.

[26:23] Love to all.

[26:24] Thank you so much.

[26:28] That concludes public testimony

[26:28] on item 615.

[26:29] All right.

[26:29] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.

[26:34] With that we'll turn over to

[26:34] the council for questions.

[26:35] Entertain a motion not seen in

[26:35] the lights.

[26:38] I'll go ahead and move

[26:39] the staff recommendation and I

[26:43] get a second.

[26:43] Okay.

[26:44] We have a second by council

[26:47] member Isla Rivera and Council

[26:47] member Campo.

[26:48] >> Thank you.

[26:49] Just a quick question for MR.

[26:50] Seats.

[26:55] So it's my understanding that

[26:55] the particular law firm in

[26:56] question they're kind of caught

[26:57] between a rock and a hard place

[27:00] because there the general

[27:00] counsel for Lascaux but

[27:01] represent us in two particular

[27:01] cases.

[27:05] So it seems to me that if we

[27:05] didn't waive or didn't have a

[27:06] waiver of the potential

[27:10] conflict of interest, we'd lose

[27:11] them as a lawyer, not laugh, go

[27:13] lose them as a lawyer in

[27:13] the potential proceedings that

[27:19] it might come.

[27:20] I think well, I believe, you

[27:21] know, deference on the law firm

[27:23] but that is a potential outcome

[27:24] that we understood.

[27:27] Well, it's part of your

[27:28] comments earlier were that

[27:28] there's nothing you don't

[27:29] foresee any detriment to

[27:33] the city.

[27:33] It seems to me that there would

[27:34] be a detriment to the city.

[27:35] Is it We've hired a law firm to

[27:38] represent us in two cases and

[27:39] then well after the fact it

[27:43] turns out that they're

[27:44] representing a potential

[27:44] opposing party to us.

[27:45] There would be no there would

[27:47] be no detriment if we granted

[27:48] the waiver or representation in

[27:52] either matter would or in

[27:53] the existing matter would not

[27:53] be impacted by their

[27:54] representation of

[27:57] the anticipated new matter.

[27:57] Understood.

[27:58] Okay.

[27:58] Of no further questions.

[28:02] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All

[28:03] right.

[28:03] Thank you, Council Member

[28:06] Campbell So we have a motion by

[28:06] myself and a second by council

[28:07] member Eli Rivera not seeing

[28:08] anyone else in the lights

[28:10] Please call the roll.

[28:11] I have started the voting

[28:11] system If you'll go ahead and

[28:15] put in your vote you MAY have

[28:20] to press the button twice.

[28:21] >> Council member Whitburn is

[28:25] as absent okay Council Member

[28:30] Foster Thank you very much.

[28:35] That passes with a five votes

[28:35] and four council members

[28:36] absent.

[28:36] >> All right, Thank you very

[28:39] much and thank you for your

[28:40] good work on that.

[28:41] With that we will now adjourn

[28:44] the PRESIDENT My my apologies

[28:45] but I think on the earlier vote

[28:49] the screen isn't registering

[28:49] correctly because I think it

[28:50] missed my vote on the item,

[28:53] the consent agenda and then

[28:54] just on this one council member

[28:55] Ellen Rivera should she was

[28:59] absent I apologize for

[28:59] the record.

[29:00] Council member Ella Ribeiro Yes

[29:03] on item 615 And just to be

[29:04] clear Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

[29:09] voted yes on the consent

[29:09] agenda.

[29:09] Thank you.

[29:10] Council PRESIDENT Apologies if

[29:12] I MAY I just for the record

[29:13] also I think it I think we

[29:14] typically distinguish between a

[29:18] recusal in an absence when

[29:18] we're setting the record on

[29:19] the vote.

[29:23] >> That's a very good point.

[29:24] So a type network.

[29:27] Okay.

[29:28] >> Okay, go ahead.

[29:31] Well I can go ahead and Sorry

[29:32] it's not my everyday job That

[29:37] was five votes to Council

[29:37] member Whitburn and Council

[29:42] member Von Wilpert recused and

[29:47] and one absence and it's two

[29:48] Yes yes six plus two plus one

[29:49] equals nine.

[29:52] >> Okay.

[29:53] >> Apologies.

[29:53] Thank you, Council member

[29:56] Rivera for that reminder.

[29:57] With that we will now adjourn

[29:58] the special council meeting for

[30:01] the noon recess and convene

[30:02] the regular council meeting at

[30:15] 2 P.M. Or shortly thereafter

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