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2 00:06:17,277 --> 00:06:17,576 all right, good morning. 3 00:06:17,576 --> 00:06:20,978 >> I will now call the city 4 00:06:20,978 --> 00:06:21,511 council meeting of Monday MARCH 5 00:06:21,511 --> 00:06:22,112 2nd, 2026 to order. 6 00:06:22,112 --> 00:06:22,479 >> Please call the roll. 7 00:06:22,479 --> 00:06:24,470 Thank you. 8 00:06:24,470 --> 00:06:26,470 Council PRESIDENT Council 9 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:29,350 member Campbell. 10 00:06:34,558 --> 00:06:35,192 Councilmember Whitburn Council 11 00:06:35,192 --> 00:06:37,592 Member Foster Dear Council 12 00:06:39,797 --> 00:06:40,397 Member Ron Wilber Council 13 00:06:40,397 --> 00:06:41,980 PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee. 14 00:06:41,980 --> 00:06:43,980 Councilmember Campo COUNCILMAN 15 00:06:46,336 --> 00:06:46,937 Moreno Present Councilmember 16 00:06:46,937 --> 00:06:47,571 Eli Rivera and Council 17 00:06:47,571 --> 00:06:48,205 PRESIDENT Look, I can also 18 00:06:48,205 --> 00:06:51,205 thank the meeting our city 19 00:06:52,943 --> 00:06:53,577 Attorney Heather Ferber, 20 00:06:53,577 --> 00:06:54,278 independent budget analyst 21 00:06:54,278 --> 00:06:54,911 Carlos Monica and myself, your 22 00:06:54,911 --> 00:06:57,311 city clerk Diana Fuentes. 23 00:06:58,816 --> 00:06:59,115 All right, Thank you, City 24 00:06:59,115 --> 00:06:59,717 clerk. 25 00:06:59,717 --> 00:07:00,450 A quorum is now present. 26 00:07:00,450 --> 00:07:01,185 We will begin this morning with 27 00:07:01,185 --> 00:07:04,121 an invocation by Clark Winters 28 00:07:04,121 --> 00:07:04,688 followed with 29 00:07:04,688 --> 00:07:05,422 the acknowledgment and 30 00:07:05,422 --> 00:07:09,220 the Pledge of Allegiance let by 31 00:07:09,593 --> 00:07:10,260 council member Foster Grant 32 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:10,961 those who hold office in 33 00:07:10,961 --> 00:07:11,628 the city the spirit of wisdom, 34 00:07:11,628 --> 00:07:14,628 charity and justice that was 35 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:16,667 steadfast purpose. 36 00:07:16,667 --> 00:07:17,268 They MAY faithfully serve in 37 00:07:17,268 --> 00:07:19,668 their offices to promote 38 00:07:21,706 --> 00:07:22,373 the well-being of our people. 39 00:07:22,373 --> 00:07:22,973 We respectfully acknowledge 40 00:07:22,973 --> 00:07:25,373 that the culmination or 41 00:07:28,379 --> 00:07:29,800 the original inhabitants of 42 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:29,713 the Unceded land now known as 43 00:07:29,713 --> 00:07:32,113 San Diego despite enduring 44 00:07:34,185 --> 00:07:34,819 the horrors of genocide and 45 00:07:34,819 --> 00:07:35,419 colonization, the Kumbayah 46 00:07:35,419 --> 00:07:36,530 spirit remains unbroken. 47 00:07:36,530 --> 00:07:39,530 We honor the resilience of 48 00:07:40,657 --> 00:07:41,392 their ancestors who fought to 49 00:07:41,392 --> 00:07:42,930 protect their culture and land. 50 00:07:42,930 --> 00:07:45,930 Today they carry their legacy 51 00:07:45,930 --> 00:07:46,630 forward ensuring that their 52 00:07:46,630 --> 00:07:47,265 traditions continue to thrive 53 00:07:47,265 --> 00:07:47,965 in gratitude and strength. 54 00:07:47,965 --> 00:07:50,965 We stand with the culmination 55 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:54,500 connected to our past and 56 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:54,705 committed to a thriving future. 57 00:07:54,705 --> 00:07:58,305 Please face the flag hand over 58 00:07:58,976 --> 00:07:59,709 your heart and begin. 59 00:07:59,709 --> 00:08:03,309 I pledge allegiance to the flag 60 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:04,915 of the United States of America 61 00:08:04,915 --> 00:08:05,716 and to the Republic for which 62 00:08:05,716 --> 00:08:08,486 it stands One nation under GOD 63 00:08:08,486 --> 00:08:08,986 indivisible with liberty and 64 00:08:08,986 --> 00:08:10,986 justice for all. 65 00:08:21,832 --> 00:08:22,467 So please remember how 66 00:08:22,467 --> 00:08:22,833 the public can offer their 67 00:08:22,833 --> 00:08:23,200 testimony. 68 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:23,901 Thank you. 69 00:08:23,901 --> 00:08:24,468 Council PRESIDENT I'd like to 70 00:08:24,468 --> 00:08:25,136 highlight the site on 71 00:08:25,136 --> 00:08:27,772 the screen That would be to 72 00:08:27,772 --> 00:08:28,472 tell the public enough for 73 00:08:28,472 --> 00:08:28,940 their public testimony during 74 00:08:28,940 --> 00:08:29,607 today's meeting. 75 00:08:29,607 --> 00:08:29,973 If you are in person please 76 00:08:29,973 --> 00:08:30,508 complete. 77 00:08:30,508 --> 00:08:32,908 The speaker spoke at 78 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:33,778 the entrance of Chambers and 79 00:08:33,778 --> 00:08:34,145 bring it to the front of 80 00:08:34,145 --> 00:08:34,846 the room. 81 00:08:34,846 --> 00:08:35,546 No further in-person testimony 82 00:08:35,546 --> 00:08:38,383 will be taken once the Council 83 00:08:38,383 --> 00:08:39,116 begins Virtual testimony for 84 00:08:39,116 --> 00:08:39,784 better meeting measure purposes 85 00:08:39,784 --> 00:08:40,551 each we will have one minute 86 00:08:40,551 --> 00:08:44,151 per item per person for a 87 00:08:46,230 --> 00:08:46,724 maximum of three minutes if 88 00:08:46,724 --> 00:08:47,124 three or more items are on 89 00:08:47,124 --> 00:08:47,759 the agenda. 90 00:08:47,759 --> 00:08:48,125 I think that's everything. 91 00:08:48,125 --> 00:08:48,492 All right. 92 00:08:48,492 --> 00:08:50,270 Thank you. 93 00:08:50,270 --> 00:08:50,728 With that please read the close 94 00:08:50,728 --> 00:08:51,329 session items into the record 95 00:08:51,329 --> 00:08:51,663 and proceed with public 96 00:08:51,663 --> 00:08:52,300 comment. 97 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:52,730 Thank you. 98 00:08:52,730 --> 00:08:55,130 Conference with Legal Counsel 99 00:08:56,433 --> 00:08:57,680 Existing Litigation Present 100 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:57,702 California Government Code 101 00:08:57,702 --> 00:08:59,702 Section 5495 6.91 sec one. 102 00:09:02,707 --> 00:09:03,208 Maria Natalie Brazil versus 103 00:09:03,208 --> 00:09:03,942 City of San Diego. 104 00:09:03,942 --> 00:09:04,642 Conference of Labor Negotiators 105 00:09:04,642 --> 00:09:06,642 Present California Government 106 00:09:07,612 --> 00:09:08,512 Code Section 54957.6. 107 00:09:08,512 --> 00:09:09,214 If he has two city designated 108 00:09:09,214 --> 00:09:11,214 management team representative 109 00:09:13,518 --> 00:09:14,252 the purpose of this concession 110 00:09:14,252 --> 00:09:14,819 meeting is to review the city's 111 00:09:14,819 --> 00:09:15,387 position and instruct 112 00:09:15,387 --> 00:09:16,870 the city's designated 113 00:09:16,870 --> 00:09:18,870 representatives regarding meet 114 00:09:19,790 --> 00:09:20,391 and confer negotiations for 115 00:09:20,391 --> 00:09:20,991 successful Memorandum of 116 00:09:20,991 --> 00:09:21,693 Understanding Surrealism 117 00:09:21,693 --> 00:09:23,693 Employee Association American 118 00:09:24,995 --> 00:09:25,697 Federation of State County and 119 00:09:25,697 --> 00:09:26,231 Municipal Employees Local 127 120 00:09:26,231 --> 00:09:26,898 Deputy City Attorney 121 00:09:26,898 --> 00:09:29,898 Association of San Diego San 122 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:32,737 Diego City Firefighters iaf at 123 00:09:32,737 --> 00:09:34,737 Local 145 California Teamsters 124 00:09:36,708 --> 00:09:37,274 Local 986 Anti-illegal Police 125 00:09:37,274 --> 00:09:37,976 Officers Association. 126 00:09:37,976 --> 00:09:38,676 If you like to speak to these 127 00:09:38,676 --> 00:09:42,247 items please be sure to submit 128 00:09:42,247 --> 00:09:42,747 a Speaker's up to the front of 129 00:09:42,747 --> 00:09:43,448 the room If you're 130 00:09:43,448 --> 00:09:44,115 participating virtually now's 131 00:09:44,115 --> 00:09:44,816 the time to raise your hand. 132 00:09:44,816 --> 00:09:47,452 There are no speakers here in 133 00:09:47,452 --> 00:09:48,540 council chambers going to those 134 00:09:48,540 --> 00:09:50,540 participating virtually. 135 00:09:51,555 --> 00:09:52,323 I started the five minute timer 136 00:09:52,323 --> 00:09:53,158 from number 80 ending in 8700. 137 00:09:53,158 --> 00:09:53,959 If you can please email and let 138 00:09:53,959 --> 00:09:58,960 me know which item or items you 139 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,296 wish to speak to a Thank you 140 00:10:03,201 --> 00:10:03,553 one and two but you'll have two 141 00:10:03,553 --> 00:10:04,200 minutes. 142 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:04,369 Please proceed. 143 00:10:04,369 --> 00:10:06,369 Thank you. 144 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,877 Join me at a cd three for one 145 00:10:12,877 --> 00:10:13,745 trip And while I was wanting 146 00:10:13,745 --> 00:10:14,479 one of you to pull item in city 147 00:10:14,479 --> 00:10:16,879 attorney's office would provide 148 00:10:18,516 --> 00:10:19,250 statics and seek direction. 149 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:20,118 This must have been a very 150 00:10:20,118 --> 00:10:23,718 serious trip and fall You have 151 00:10:23,889 --> 00:10:24,489 happened over seven years ago. 152 00:10:24,489 --> 00:10:25,156 If perhaps there are 153 00:10:25,156 --> 00:10:27,156 extenuating circumstances I 154 00:10:30,162 --> 00:10:30,896 would really like to know what 155 00:10:30,896 --> 00:10:33,599 is caused delay and settle this 156 00:10:33,599 --> 00:10:36,599 litigation for all these years 157 00:10:40,305 --> 00:10:41,272 To all you labor negotiations I 158 00:10:41,272 --> 00:10:45,472 want you to know that I rewrote 159 00:10:45,711 --> 00:10:46,345 and rewrote and rewrote my 160 00:10:46,345 --> 00:10:46,645 comment for the item three 161 00:10:46,645 --> 00:10:47,212 times. 162 00:10:47,212 --> 00:10:50,212 I just couldn't do it. 163 00:10:50,949 --> 00:10:51,650 I finally this morning I 164 00:10:51,650 --> 00:10:55,250 decided to just speak from my 165 00:10:55,888 --> 00:10:56,654 heart So I'll say this every 166 00:10:56,654 --> 00:11:00,254 single table I invite all of 167 00:11:02,227 --> 00:11:02,961 you present to step out of your 168 00:11:02,961 --> 00:11:06,561 role and become a family member 169 00:11:06,965 --> 00:11:07,766 sitting together at kitchen 170 00:11:07,766 --> 00:11:11,366 table to figure out how to 171 00:11:13,138 --> 00:11:13,906 balance the family budget. 172 00:11:13,906 --> 00:11:17,506 Is there an opportunity to cut 173 00:11:18,911 --> 00:11:19,178 the budget pie that's fair to 174 00:11:19,178 --> 00:11:19,778 all. 175 00:11:19,778 --> 00:11:20,145 Thank you so much for 176 00:11:20,145 --> 00:11:20,712 listening. 177 00:11:20,712 --> 00:11:21,213 Have a beautiful day. 178 00:11:21,213 --> 00:11:23,213 A beautiful week. 179 00:11:23,548 --> 00:11:24,160 Love you all. 180 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:24,616 Thank you. 181 00:11:24,616 --> 00:11:25,316 That does include public 182 00:11:25,316 --> 00:11:25,651 comment on the closed session 183 00:11:25,651 --> 00:11:26,180 agenda. 184 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:28,180 Thank you. 185 00:11:29,121 --> 00:11:29,622 Council PRESIDENT. 186 00:11:29,622 --> 00:11:29,989 All right. 187 00:11:29,989 --> 00:11:30,755 Thank you. 188 00:11:30,755 --> 00:11:31,356 With that we will now recess 189 00:11:31,356 --> 00:11:32,324 into closed session and 190 00:11:32,324 --> 00:11:34,724 reconvene council today at 2 191 00:23:09,166 --> 00:23:12,166 P.M. Or shortly thereafter 192 00:25:09,487 --> 00:25:11,487 and 193 00:27:23,956 --> 00:27:24,256 then 194 00:27:24,256 --> 00:27:24,656 . 195 00:27:24,656 --> 00:27:25,123 All right. 196 00:27:25,123 --> 00:27:27,123 Good afternoon. 197 00:27:28,594 --> 00:27:29,328 I will now reconvene the city 198 00:27:29,328 --> 00:27:29,695 council meeting of Monday MARCH 199 00:27:29,695 --> 00:27:31,695 2nd, 2026. 200 00:27:33,465 --> 00:27:33,966 Clerk Please call the roll. 201 00:27:33,966 --> 00:27:34,600 >> Thank you. 202 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,267 Council PRESIDENT Council 203 00:27:35,267 --> 00:27:35,934 Member Campbell here Council 204 00:27:35,934 --> 00:27:38,334 Member Whitburn here Council 205 00:27:39,405 --> 00:27:40,105 member Foster Council Member 206 00:27:40,105 --> 00:27:42,505 Von Wilpert Council PRESIDENT 207 00:27:43,876 --> 00:27:44,577 Pro Timely Hear Council Member 208 00:27:44,577 --> 00:27:46,977 Campion Council Member Moreno 209 00:27:48,613 --> 00:27:49,281 Present Council member Ella 210 00:27:49,281 --> 00:27:51,681 Rivera and Council PRESIDENT 211 00:27:53,452 --> 00:27:54,120 LaCava also attend the meeting 212 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:54,787 Our Assistant City Attorney 213 00:27:54,787 --> 00:27:56,787 Michelle Garland Independent 214 00:27:57,590 --> 00:27:58,290 budget analyst Charles Monica 215 00:27:58,290 --> 00:28:01,290 Advisor in the Mayor's office. 216 00:28:02,795 --> 00:28:03,328 MR. Wilde and myself your city 217 00:28:03,328 --> 00:28:03,696 clerk Diana Fuentes. 218 00:28:03,696 --> 00:28:04,630 Thank you. 219 00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:06,630 All right. 220 00:28:07,266 --> 00:28:07,967 Thank you MADAM City Clerk 221 00:28:07,967 --> 00:28:08,734 Quorum is now present so we'll 222 00:28:08,734 --> 00:28:12,334 start off first by asking if 223 00:28:12,338 --> 00:28:13,500 there's any comments from 224 00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:13,706 the mayor's office from city 225 00:28:13,706 --> 00:28:16,106 council member, city attorney, 226 00:28:16,842 --> 00:28:17,510 independent budget analyst or 227 00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:18,310 the city clerk and we see 228 00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:21,614 the city clerk cards comments I 229 00:28:21,614 --> 00:28:22,381 just wanted to give a quick 230 00:28:22,381 --> 00:28:25,985 update that we are going to be 231 00:28:25,985 --> 00:28:26,752 ending our community engagement 232 00:28:26,752 --> 00:28:27,787 survey at the end of this week. 233 00:28:27,787 --> 00:28:30,923 There is a qr code during our 234 00:28:30,923 --> 00:28:33,493 present during our slides that 235 00:28:33,493 --> 00:28:34,160 go up and on my website w w w 236 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,827 dot San diego.Gov backslash 237 00:28:34,827 --> 00:28:38,427 city clerk on the front web 238 00:28:39,198 --> 00:28:39,866 page there we encourage 239 00:28:39,866 --> 00:28:40,566 everyone to participate and 240 00:28:40,566 --> 00:28:41,234 please give us feedback on how 241 00:28:41,234 --> 00:28:44,234 we can better support public 242 00:28:44,470 --> 00:28:44,837 engagement in city council 243 00:28:44,837 --> 00:28:45,571 meetings. 244 00:28:45,571 --> 00:28:45,871 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 245 00:28:45,871 --> 00:28:46,606 right. 246 00:28:46,606 --> 00:28:48,674 Thank you MADAM Clerk and thank 247 00:28:48,674 --> 00:28:49,308 you for going for that extra 248 00:28:49,308 --> 00:28:49,609 effort to get that public 249 00:28:49,609 --> 00:28:50,443 input. 250 00:28:50,443 --> 00:28:53,379 So with that please go over how 251 00:28:53,379 --> 00:28:53,746 the public can offer their 252 00:28:53,746 --> 00:28:54,180 testimony. 253 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:54,881 >> Thank you. 254 00:28:54,881 --> 00:28:57,881 Council PRESIDENT I'd like to 255 00:28:59,285 --> 00:28:59,986 highlight the slide that was on 256 00:28:59,986 --> 00:29:00,653 the screen but the screen that 257 00:29:00,653 --> 00:29:03,589 reviews how public offer can 258 00:29:03,589 --> 00:29:04,257 how the public can offer their 259 00:29:04,257 --> 00:29:04,790 public testimony during this 260 00:29:04,790 --> 00:29:06,790 afternoon's meeting. 261 00:29:07,694 --> 00:29:08,695 You can go and get the website 262 00:29:08,695 --> 00:29:09,362 link at w w w dot San diego.Gov 263 00:29:09,362 --> 00:29:12,362 backslash City Clerk on our 264 00:29:12,698 --> 00:29:13,366 agenda it is there at the front 265 00:29:13,366 --> 00:29:14,333 If you'd like to participate 266 00:29:14,333 --> 00:29:18,204 via zoom it's w w w dot San 267 00:29:18,204 --> 00:29:22,642 Diego dot gov slash c c m t g 268 00:29:22,642 --> 00:29:23,275 It's back up on the screen now 269 00:29:23,275 --> 00:29:23,676 as well as the webinar id 270 00:29:23,676 --> 00:29:25,676 information. 271 00:29:26,779 --> 00:29:27,413 If you are in person please 272 00:29:27,413 --> 00:29:28,470 complete the speaker slip 273 00:29:28,470 --> 00:29:28,648 located at the entrance of 274 00:29:28,648 --> 00:29:29,249 chambers and bring it to 275 00:29:29,249 --> 00:29:31,917 the front of the room in 276 00:29:31,917 --> 00:29:32,451 the clear box. 277 00:29:32,451 --> 00:29:33,152 There's also council 278 00:29:33,152 --> 00:29:33,853 ambassadors that are available 279 00:29:33,853 --> 00:29:36,789 near the entrance of chambers 280 00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:37,291 and can assist with questions 281 00:29:37,291 --> 00:29:37,891 and speaker slips. 282 00:29:37,891 --> 00:29:40,291 If you are participating 283 00:29:40,626 --> 00:29:41,360 remotely press star nine or 284 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,280 the raise your hand icon and no 285 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,280 further in-person testimony 286 00:29:45,398 --> 00:29:46,320 will be taken once the Council 287 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:46,765 begins Virtual testimony. 288 00:29:46,765 --> 00:29:47,660 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 289 00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:47,433 right. 290 00:29:47,433 --> 00:29:49,402 Thank you. 291 00:29:49,402 --> 00:29:49,803 And with that please introduce 292 00:29:49,803 --> 00:29:50,536 item 200. 293 00:29:50,536 --> 00:29:50,836 Item 200 is an informational 294 00:29:50,836 --> 00:29:52,836 item. 295 00:29:54,841 --> 00:29:55,442 It is the annual update from 296 00:29:55,442 --> 00:29:58,442 the San Diego City Port 297 00:29:58,845 --> 00:29:59,712 Commissioners If you'd like to 298 00:29:59,712 --> 00:30:00,447 if you'd like to speak on this 299 00:30:00,447 --> 00:30:01,147 item, now is the time to submit 300 00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:04,217 your speaker slip to the front 301 00:30:04,217 --> 00:30:04,884 of the room into the clear box 302 00:30:04,884 --> 00:30:07,884 or if you are participating 303 00:30:08,822 --> 00:30:09,456 remotely come on in. 304 00:30:09,456 --> 00:30:10,890 If you are participating 305 00:30:10,890 --> 00:30:10,790 remotely please be sure to 306 00:30:10,790 --> 00:30:13,790 raise your hand by pressing 307 00:30:14,394 --> 00:30:14,761 star nine or the raise your 308 00:30:14,761 --> 00:30:15,529 hand icon. 309 00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:18,464 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 310 00:30:18,464 --> 00:30:18,965 right. 311 00:30:18,965 --> 00:30:19,632 Thank you. 312 00:30:19,632 --> 00:30:20,299 Well welcome to our chambers 313 00:30:20,299 --> 00:30:23,690 this time And these are our 314 00:30:23,690 --> 00:30:23,770 port commissioners that are 315 00:30:23,770 --> 00:30:24,337 the commissioners representing 316 00:30:24,337 --> 00:30:24,871 the city of San Diego. 317 00:30:24,871 --> 00:30:27,271 San Diego Excuse me. 318 00:30:28,341 --> 00:30:29,109 Please introduce yourselves for 319 00:30:29,109 --> 00:30:29,810 the record and let us know how 320 00:30:29,810 --> 00:30:30,243 much time you need for your 321 00:30:30,243 --> 00:30:32,243 presentation. 322 00:30:33,713 --> 00:30:34,800 Good afternoon, Council 323 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:34,614 PRESIDENT. 324 00:30:34,614 --> 00:30:35,315 15 minutes, please. 325 00:30:35,315 --> 00:30:38,315 All right, When you're ready, 326 00:30:38,752 --> 00:30:39,152 Go ahead. 327 00:30:39,152 --> 00:30:39,453 Next slide. 328 00:30:39,453 --> 00:30:39,853 Oh. 329 00:30:39,853 --> 00:30:40,153 Oh, no. 330 00:30:40,153 --> 00:30:42,153 Sorry. 331 00:30:43,823 --> 00:30:45,823 I apologize. 332 00:30:48,995 --> 00:30:49,596 I know you're very excited and 333 00:30:49,596 --> 00:30:49,963 good afternoon, Council 334 00:30:49,963 --> 00:30:50,630 PRESIDENT. 335 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:51,164 Members of the City Council. 336 00:30:51,164 --> 00:30:53,164 I'm Michael Zuccato. 337 00:30:54,267 --> 00:30:55,200 I'm the vice chair of the board 338 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,702 of Port Commissioners joined by 339 00:30:55,702 --> 00:30:58,102 Commissioner Silver Opera and 340 00:30:58,972 --> 00:30:59,706 Commissioner Daniel Moore. 341 00:30:59,706 --> 00:31:00,107 We are your three San Diego 342 00:31:00,107 --> 00:31:02,107 appointees. 343 00:31:03,142 --> 00:31:03,911 We're going to give you a brief 344 00:31:03,911 --> 00:31:07,314 update on a number of items 345 00:31:07,314 --> 00:31:08,480 today broken down into three 346 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:08,615 categories parks and open space 347 00:31:08,615 --> 00:31:09,283 economic development. 348 00:31:09,283 --> 00:31:11,751 And we're going to tell you 349 00:31:11,751 --> 00:31:12,419 about some exciting events 350 00:31:12,419 --> 00:31:12,953 coming through our Tidelands 351 00:31:12,953 --> 00:31:14,953 activation program. 352 00:31:21,495 --> 00:31:23,495 Next slide please. 353 00:31:35,375 --> 00:31:35,843 No, no, no. 354 00:31:35,843 --> 00:31:36,510 Very good. 355 00:31:36,510 --> 00:31:37,145 So beginning with parks and 356 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,460 Open space, we're going to 357 00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:40,714 begin with what will be 358 00:31:40,714 --> 00:31:43,714 the largest veterans park on 359 00:31:44,985 --> 00:31:45,486 the West Coast Freedom Park at 360 00:31:45,486 --> 00:31:46,253 Burnham Navy Pier. 361 00:31:46,253 --> 00:31:49,456 If you look at the rendering 362 00:31:49,456 --> 00:31:50,230 there, that's Navy Pier on 363 00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:50,691 the left side of this 364 00:31:50,691 --> 00:31:53,691 photograph and the park will 365 00:31:54,528 --> 00:31:55,195 begin at that eastern edge of 366 00:31:55,195 --> 00:31:58,795 the pier ramp all the way 367 00:31:59,366 --> 00:32:02,966 around the midway over the g 368 00:32:03,504 --> 00:32:04,205 Street Mall on the other side 369 00:32:04,205 --> 00:32:07,205 and ten acres in all. 370 00:32:08,750 --> 00:32:08,842 So this is a very substantial 371 00:32:08,842 --> 00:32:09,143 park that is under construction 372 00:32:09,143 --> 00:32:09,843 today. 373 00:32:09,843 --> 00:32:12,843 The port demolished last year 374 00:32:13,647 --> 00:32:14,314 that had house warehouse 375 00:32:14,314 --> 00:32:17,314 looking structure at the at 376 00:32:18,285 --> 00:32:18,852 the base of the pier. 377 00:32:18,852 --> 00:32:21,252 It's it's it's nearing 378 00:32:22,623 --> 00:32:23,257 completion of the under under 379 00:32:23,257 --> 00:32:23,924 water reinforcements and 380 00:32:23,924 --> 00:32:26,324 engineering that's going on 381 00:32:27,728 --> 00:32:28,463 the Midway Museum our partners 382 00:32:28,463 --> 00:32:29,300 in this effort continue their 383 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,300 fundraising for their 384 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:33,334 construction and we're excited 385 00:32:33,334 --> 00:32:36,334 that completion is scheduled to 386 00:32:36,804 --> 00:32:37,104 be in time for Veteran's Day 387 00:32:37,104 --> 00:32:37,604 2028. 388 00:32:37,604 --> 00:32:39,604 Next slide please. 389 00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:42,443 Moving on to Cesar Chavez Park 390 00:32:42,443 --> 00:32:44,443 improvements. 391 00:32:46,595 --> 00:32:47,414 This is a this is a project 392 00:32:47,414 --> 00:32:47,849 that is in a more preliminary 393 00:32:47,849 --> 00:32:49,849 design phase. 394 00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:52,860 We're working closely with 395 00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:52,720 Councilmember Moreno, 396 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,120 the Barrio Logan Community 397 00:32:56,323 --> 00:32:56,924 Planning Group which kind of 398 00:32:56,924 --> 00:32:57,558 park steering committee. 399 00:32:57,558 --> 00:33:00,558 We've had a few public 400 00:33:01,328 --> 00:33:04,328 workshops and pop up events 401 00:33:05,866 --> 00:33:06,600 trying to come up with a 402 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,600 collaborative design and a plan 403 00:33:10,438 --> 00:33:11,139 to make these improvements at 404 00:33:11,139 --> 00:33:11,572 the moment we're talking about 405 00:33:11,572 --> 00:33:12,273 a splash pad. 406 00:33:12,273 --> 00:33:15,273 We're talking about more lawn 407 00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:16,310 space for picnics and 408 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:19,310 gatherings a perched beach sort 409 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,800 of above above the water Aztec 410 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,800 inspired hardscape shade 411 00:33:24,619 --> 00:33:25,319 structures and other a 412 00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:25,986 amenities although this is in 413 00:33:25,986 --> 00:33:28,386 preliminary design the good 414 00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:30,658 news is this this project is 415 00:33:30,658 --> 00:33:32,658 basically already funded 416 00:33:34,228 --> 00:33:34,862 through something at the port 417 00:33:34,862 --> 00:33:35,496 called the Balance Capital 418 00:33:35,496 --> 00:33:36,970 Program which is something 419 00:33:36,970 --> 00:33:38,497 where each member cities 420 00:33:39,534 --> 00:33:40,401 commissioners sort of guide 421 00:33:40,401 --> 00:33:44,100 some public money And this is 422 00:33:44,638 --> 00:33:45,305 the choice of the three 423 00:33:45,305 --> 00:33:45,840 commissioners before you in 424 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,240 terms of San Diego. 425 00:33:49,877 --> 00:33:50,545 And so this is this project is 426 00:33:50,545 --> 00:33:51,212 largely funded construction 427 00:33:51,212 --> 00:33:54,150 we're hoping is fall of 2027 428 00:33:54,150 --> 00:33:54,315 completed in the spring of 429 00:33:54,315 --> 00:33:56,315 2028. 430 00:33:58,853 --> 00:34:00,853 Next slide please. 431 00:34:01,422 --> 00:34:01,723 Another ten acre park currently 432 00:34:01,723 --> 00:34:03,723 . 433 00:34:06,594 --> 00:34:07,362 Next slide please. 434 00:34:07,362 --> 00:34:07,695 Coming up for East Harbor 435 00:34:07,695 --> 00:34:09,695 Island. 436 00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:12,500 This is the part of East Harbor 437 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:13,201 Island that you probably 438 00:34:13,201 --> 00:34:16,201 haven't been to before unless 439 00:34:16,604 --> 00:34:17,471 you made a wrong turn. 440 00:34:17,471 --> 00:34:18,730 This is the part that is right 441 00:34:18,730 --> 00:34:20,473 by Harbor Island Drive. 442 00:34:21,442 --> 00:34:24,442 It's currently parking lots for 443 00:34:25,980 --> 00:34:26,681 overflow rental cars and 444 00:34:26,681 --> 00:34:27,315 construction areas for the for 445 00:34:27,315 --> 00:34:30,315 the airport right now It's 446 00:34:31,586 --> 00:34:32,287 going to be the future site for 447 00:34:32,287 --> 00:34:33,200 Topgolf which my colleague is 448 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,570 going to talk about in a second 449 00:34:36,570 --> 00:34:36,858 But we're talking about that 450 00:34:36,858 --> 00:34:37,425 what do you call that teal 451 00:34:37,425 --> 00:34:39,425 aquamarine around it? 452 00:34:40,461 --> 00:34:40,929 That's a ten acre park all on 453 00:34:40,929 --> 00:34:42,929 the waterfront. 454 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,168 There's also a proposal for 455 00:34:46,168 --> 00:34:46,835 about a six and a half acre 456 00:34:46,835 --> 00:34:48,835 entertainment and restaurant 457 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:50,838 district in this area. 458 00:34:50,838 --> 00:34:51,540 The part of Harbor Island that 459 00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:54,540 most people are familiar with 460 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:55,743 is that part of the photograph, 461 00:34:55,743 --> 00:34:56,144 part with the restaurants and 462 00:34:56,144 --> 00:34:56,844 the hotels. 463 00:34:56,844 --> 00:35:00,470 This is right now literally a 464 00:35:00,470 --> 00:35:00,882 walled off sort of industrial 465 00:35:00,882 --> 00:35:04,482 section of of of East Harbor 466 00:35:05,153 --> 00:35:05,820 Island And it will and this 467 00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:08,220 entire development and park 468 00:35:10,358 --> 00:35:10,858 space will be transform at of 469 00:35:10,858 --> 00:35:12,858 Next slide please. 470 00:35:14,729 --> 00:35:15,463 Finally at least for for my 471 00:35:15,463 --> 00:35:16,164 part of this presentation want 472 00:35:16,164 --> 00:35:19,434 to update you on the maritime 473 00:35:19,434 --> 00:35:20,680 clean air strategy Something 474 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:20,969 the port adopted in 2021. 475 00:35:20,969 --> 00:35:24,372 The purpose of it was and 476 00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:25,730 the goal of it was health 477 00:35:25,730 --> 00:35:28,730 equity for all basically what 478 00:35:28,844 --> 00:35:29,444 can we as a port do more to 479 00:35:29,444 --> 00:35:30,450 improve on the lives of 480 00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:32,445 the port communities who 481 00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:34,616 surround the operations of 482 00:35:34,616 --> 00:35:38,216 the port And and one of 483 00:35:38,854 --> 00:35:39,721 the goals of the of the of 484 00:35:39,721 --> 00:35:43,321 the strategy was to put our 485 00:35:43,892 --> 00:35:44,660 goals make them aggressive and 486 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:45,327 put them in writing and hope to 487 00:35:45,327 --> 00:35:47,727 generate federal and state 488 00:35:48,463 --> 00:35:48,864 money to help fund those 489 00:35:48,864 --> 00:35:49,565 activities. 490 00:35:49,565 --> 00:35:53,267 And I think it's fair to say 491 00:35:53,267 --> 00:35:53,936 that even our most optimistic 492 00:35:53,936 --> 00:35:54,236 hopes were far exceeded to 493 00:35:54,236 --> 00:35:56,236 date. 494 00:35:58,774 --> 00:35:59,441 We've raised sort of a quarter 495 00:35:59,441 --> 00:36:02,441 billion dollars in the last 496 00:36:03,245 --> 00:36:03,912 five years to fund electric 497 00:36:03,912 --> 00:36:05,912 cranes completely electrify 498 00:36:08,283 --> 00:36:08,951 almost completely electrify 499 00:36:08,951 --> 00:36:09,651 the 10,000 Marine terminal. 500 00:36:09,651 --> 00:36:13,550 By the way, all that electric 501 00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:13,822 equipment is is the electricity 502 00:36:13,822 --> 00:36:16,591 from It comes from a solar 503 00:36:16,591 --> 00:36:17,226 powered microgrid grid at 504 00:36:17,226 --> 00:36:17,859 the 10,000 Marine terminal 505 00:36:17,859 --> 00:36:20,859 which also saves money and 506 00:36:21,397 --> 00:36:22,130 reduces further emissions. 507 00:36:22,130 --> 00:36:22,831 So very grateful to the work of 508 00:36:22,831 --> 00:36:25,831 our staff at the port 509 00:36:26,340 --> 00:36:26,735 especially Jobe Nelson who you 510 00:36:26,735 --> 00:36:27,369 already know and his team who 511 00:36:27,369 --> 00:36:30,369 have really gone above and 512 00:36:30,806 --> 00:36:31,673 beyond in securing this money 513 00:36:31,673 --> 00:36:35,377 and the result of that of those 514 00:36:35,377 --> 00:36:36,110 investments were demonstrated 515 00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:38,411 in our emissions inventory 516 00:36:40,282 --> 00:36:40,983 which was just published and it 517 00:36:40,983 --> 00:36:41,951 showed that in a five year 518 00:36:41,951 --> 00:36:45,551 period we had a 30% decrease in 519 00:36:45,654 --> 00:36:46,354 nitrogen oxides and a 46% 520 00:36:46,354 --> 00:36:48,754 decrease in diesel particulate 521 00:36:50,392 --> 00:36:51,600 matter emissions from port 522 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:51,560 related activities in just a 523 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,560 five year period. 524 00:36:55,464 --> 00:36:55,865 And so we're pretty excited 525 00:36:55,865 --> 00:36:56,565 about that. 526 00:36:56,565 --> 00:37:00,165 Just at our last board meeting 527 00:37:00,569 --> 00:37:01,270 we we approved our clean cargo 528 00:37:01,270 --> 00:37:01,703 port grant with epa which did 529 00:37:01,703 --> 00:37:03,703 come through. 530 00:37:05,807 --> 00:37:06,174 We have a couple of partners on 531 00:37:06,174 --> 00:37:06,842 that goal. 532 00:37:06,842 --> 00:37:07,476 Our main tenant at the 10th 533 00:37:07,476 --> 00:37:09,876 Avenue Marine Terminal and 534 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,580 Patient Automotive who is our 535 00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:15,180 who runs the terminal down in 536 00:37:15,651 --> 00:37:16,251 National City also in that 537 00:37:16,251 --> 00:37:16,919 grant we've got funded a 538 00:37:16,919 --> 00:37:18,919 workforce development staff 539 00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:21,657 member who's going to who's 540 00:37:21,657 --> 00:37:24,657 going to help promote clean 541 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,895 tech careers And so we're 542 00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:26,529 excited about these results and 543 00:37:26,529 --> 00:37:28,929 look forward to continuing 544 00:37:30,899 --> 00:37:31,533 the progress Moving on. 545 00:37:31,533 --> 00:37:31,901 Commissioner Ferrara Good 546 00:37:31,901 --> 00:37:33,901 afternoon. 547 00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:35,471 Sid Baraka For the record I'm 548 00:37:35,471 --> 00:37:36,438 happy to be here. 549 00:37:36,438 --> 00:37:40,380 I also want to acknowledge as 550 00:37:40,509 --> 00:37:41,244 Commissioner as you mentioned 551 00:37:41,244 --> 00:37:41,977 Jobe Nelson, Jobe Nelson, Scott 552 00:37:41,977 --> 00:37:45,247 Chadwick and Ron Powell I think 553 00:37:45,247 --> 00:37:45,981 they need no introduction from 554 00:37:45,981 --> 00:37:46,315 all of you have joined us today 555 00:37:46,315 --> 00:37:48,315 as well. 556 00:37:50,152 --> 00:37:50,653 I'm going to share three 557 00:37:50,653 --> 00:37:51,320 projects all under 558 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,720 environmental review at this 559 00:37:55,424 --> 00:37:56,359 point in time. 560 00:37:56,359 --> 00:37:56,993 But as you'll see we see end of 561 00:37:56,993 --> 00:37:59,796 the tunnel or the light at 562 00:37:59,796 --> 00:38:00,463 the end of the tunnel on all 563 00:38:00,463 --> 00:38:00,963 three of them starting with 564 00:38:00,963 --> 00:38:02,963 Seaport San Diego. 565 00:38:04,667 --> 00:38:05,401 It is our most ambitious 566 00:38:05,401 --> 00:38:08,401 project in its planning stages. 567 00:38:09,105 --> 00:38:09,539 I know you are all familiar 568 00:38:09,539 --> 00:38:10,339 with it. 569 00:38:10,339 --> 00:38:13,339 This mixed use project proposes 570 00:38:14,844 --> 00:38:15,477 free public uses and commercial 571 00:38:15,477 --> 00:38:17,477 ventures including plazas, 572 00:38:19,548 --> 00:38:20,216 parks, promenades, piers 573 00:38:20,216 --> 00:38:20,950 marinas, hotels, retail and 574 00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:22,950 restaurants, Commercial fishing 575 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,321 uses multiple visitor 576 00:38:25,321 --> 00:38:28,321 attractions and urban beach and 577 00:38:29,925 --> 00:38:30,693 educational uses as well. 578 00:38:30,693 --> 00:38:33,693 It would unfold on about 39 579 00:38:35,164 --> 00:38:35,832 acres of land and 63 acres of 580 00:38:35,832 --> 00:38:38,832 water that includes parts of 581 00:38:40,636 --> 00:38:41,337 Seaport Village Tuna Harbor, 582 00:38:41,337 --> 00:38:41,804 Embarcadero, Marina Park North 583 00:38:41,804 --> 00:38:43,804 and Rucker Park. 584 00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:45,208 So as I said it's under 585 00:38:45,208 --> 00:38:45,875 environmental review and we 586 00:38:45,875 --> 00:38:46,576 actually anticipate the next 587 00:38:46,576 --> 00:38:47,610 the completion of that review 588 00:38:47,610 --> 00:38:49,610 later this year. 589 00:38:52,581 --> 00:38:53,550 Next slide please. 590 00:38:53,550 --> 00:38:57,150 >> The second project I want to 591 00:38:58,454 --> 00:38:58,788 share is the is 1220 Pacific 592 00:38:58,788 --> 00:38:59,522 Highway. 593 00:38:59,522 --> 00:39:02,358 So after completing a deal with 594 00:39:02,358 --> 00:39:03,250 the us Navy to acquire its 595 00:39:03,250 --> 00:39:03,760 leasehold the port staff is 596 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,760 preparing to present a proposed 597 00:39:07,597 --> 00:39:08,131 use for the site at our MARCH 598 00:39:08,131 --> 00:39:10,531 10th Board of Port 599 00:39:12,535 --> 00:39:13,169 Commissioners meeting and we 600 00:39:13,169 --> 00:39:13,904 are actually considering a 601 00:39:13,904 --> 00:39:14,604 proposal that promises to bring 602 00:39:14,604 --> 00:39:17,607 in a new public attraction to 603 00:39:17,607 --> 00:39:18,241 the area next to 604 00:39:18,241 --> 00:39:18,808 the Intercontinental Hotel 605 00:39:18,808 --> 00:39:20,808 along the Embarcadero. 606 00:39:23,914 --> 00:39:24,581 So I think all three of us are 607 00:39:24,581 --> 00:39:25,314 excited to see a development 608 00:39:25,314 --> 00:39:27,850 plan that transforms what has 609 00:39:27,850 --> 00:39:30,250 been an unusable 3.4 acre 610 00:39:32,389 --> 00:39:33,890 cluster of Navy office 611 00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:33,756 buildings since 1949 into an 612 00:39:33,756 --> 00:39:36,156 activated space for our 613 00:39:37,827 --> 00:39:38,495 community. 614 00:39:38,495 --> 00:39:40,495 >> Next slide please. 615 00:39:43,867 --> 00:39:44,567 Vice Chair As you can also talk 616 00:39:44,567 --> 00:39:45,234 a little bit about East Harbor 617 00:39:45,234 --> 00:39:48,234 Drive our East River Island 618 00:39:48,739 --> 00:39:49,372 excuse me and the park and this 619 00:39:49,372 --> 00:39:49,940 is part of our activation 620 00:39:49,940 --> 00:39:51,940 program with Topgolf. 621 00:39:54,611 --> 00:39:55,312 So this proposed project sits 622 00:39:55,312 --> 00:39:58,312 on ten acres again also 623 00:39:59,282 --> 00:39:59,716 occupied currently by rental 624 00:39:59,716 --> 00:40:00,417 car companies. 625 00:40:00,417 --> 00:40:02,817 It's also under environmental 626 00:40:04,721 --> 00:40:05,455 review and we're expecting an 627 00:40:05,455 --> 00:40:06,123 air to be circulated for public 628 00:40:06,123 --> 00:40:09,123 study and comment this fall. 629 00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:14,197 Once it is the air is certified 630 00:40:14,197 --> 00:40:14,965 by the Board of Commissioners. 631 00:40:14,965 --> 00:40:15,532 It will be submitted to 632 00:40:15,532 --> 00:40:16,990 the California Coastal 633 00:40:16,990 --> 00:40:18,990 Commission for review. 634 00:40:19,937 --> 00:40:20,637 And it is that's a crucial step 635 00:40:20,637 --> 00:40:23,370 that would allow construction 636 00:40:25,542 --> 00:40:26,343 to begin topgolf promises to 637 00:40:26,343 --> 00:40:27,100 serve as a magnet that we think 638 00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:30,100 will attract the public and 639 00:40:30,714 --> 00:40:31,348 provides a jolt of energy to 640 00:40:31,348 --> 00:40:32,490 East Harbor Drive between 641 00:40:32,490 --> 00:40:35,490 the planned East Harbor Island 642 00:40:35,919 --> 00:40:36,619 Park and Promenade and Topgolf. 643 00:40:36,619 --> 00:40:40,390 We the three of us are in 644 00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:41,910 particular looking to see how 645 00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:41,659 we could reimagine this space 646 00:40:41,659 --> 00:40:44,659 that as Vice chair you 647 00:40:45,629 --> 00:40:46,297 mentioned has been just not 648 00:40:46,297 --> 00:40:46,664 usable for the public in our 649 00:40:46,664 --> 00:40:48,664 community. 650 00:40:50,701 --> 00:40:51,535 Next slide. 651 00:40:51,535 --> 00:40:52,202 >> And finally for me and my 652 00:40:52,202 --> 00:40:54,602 portion of this presentation 653 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:56,775 are cruise industry. 654 00:40:56,775 --> 00:40:57,407 So the port is experiencing 655 00:40:57,407 --> 00:40:57,774 rebound in its cruise ship 656 00:40:57,774 --> 00:40:59,774 business. 657 00:41:01,378 --> 00:41:04,978 We had a 107 cruise ship calls 658 00:41:05,650 --> 00:41:05,983 with 389,000 passengers this 659 00:41:05,983 --> 00:41:07,983 season. 660 00:41:09,153 --> 00:41:09,920 So as just to give a comparison 661 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,320 in the 2024 2025 cruise season 662 00:41:14,910 --> 00:41:14,758 we recorded 75 cruise ships and 663 00:41:14,758 --> 00:41:16,758 welcomed just about 260,000 664 00:41:19,290 --> 00:41:19,697 passengers at that time. 665 00:41:19,697 --> 00:41:20,464 So during that season cruise 666 00:41:20,464 --> 00:41:23,464 lines had repositioned ships to 667 00:41:24,635 --> 00:41:25,690 Asia and Australia and tested 668 00:41:25,690 --> 00:41:27,690 other markets. 669 00:41:30,307 --> 00:41:31,410 But I want to say 670 00:41:31,410 --> 00:41:31,709 congratulations to our maritime 671 00:41:31,709 --> 00:41:34,709 team who have really worked 672 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:35,646 hard to kind of engage 673 00:41:35,646 --> 00:41:38,460 the cruise line industry. 674 00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:40,250 And this year's performance is 675 00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:40,951 similar to our 2023 2024 season 676 00:41:40,951 --> 00:41:43,951 and that's what Global Travel 677 00:41:45,556 --> 00:41:46,257 magazine recognized us San 678 00:41:46,257 --> 00:41:47,240 Diego is the best cruise port 679 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,493 in the world at Seas and saw 680 00:41:49,493 --> 00:41:49,894 101 cruise calls with 340,000 681 00:41:49,894 --> 00:41:50,761 passengers. 682 00:41:50,761 --> 00:41:55,561 So to give you a sense of why 683 00:41:55,666 --> 00:41:56,333 this matters for all of us, 684 00:41:56,333 --> 00:41:57,201 each voyage that begins and 685 00:41:57,201 --> 00:42:00,872 ends in San Diego So a home for 686 00:42:00,872 --> 00:42:01,571 all injects $2 million into 687 00:42:01,571 --> 00:42:02,172 the local economy through ship 688 00:42:02,172 --> 00:42:02,540 provisioning and visitor 689 00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:04,540 spending. 690 00:42:06,243 --> 00:42:06,944 >> a stop here by cruise ship 691 00:42:06,944 --> 00:42:09,944 that originates at a different 692 00:42:10,514 --> 00:42:11,115 port brings in about $600,000 693 00:42:11,115 --> 00:42:11,716 into our local economy. 694 00:42:11,716 --> 00:42:14,116 This year's fiscal year 695 00:42:16,587 --> 00:42:17,321 the port's cruise businesses 696 00:42:17,321 --> 00:42:18,220 will generate an estimated $157 697 00:42:18,220 --> 00:42:21,220 million in economic impact to 698 00:42:22,492 --> 00:42:23,428 the San Diego County. 699 00:42:23,428 --> 00:42:24,127 And I see we're down to three 700 00:42:24,127 --> 00:42:24,862 and half minutes so I'm going 701 00:42:24,862 --> 00:42:25,396 to turn it over to my colleague 702 00:42:25,396 --> 00:42:26,931 Commissioner Maurer. 703 00:42:26,931 --> 00:42:27,298 Okay. 704 00:42:27,298 --> 00:42:27,799 Hello. 705 00:42:27,799 --> 00:42:29,799 Hello everyone. 706 00:42:33,905 --> 00:42:37,505 Daniel Moore very proud to be 707 00:42:37,944 --> 00:42:38,676 to serve on this board And one 708 00:42:38,676 --> 00:42:39,277 of the best parts is being able 709 00:42:39,277 --> 00:42:40,100 to serve with the other 710 00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,100 commissioners commissioners who 711 00:42:43,281 --> 00:42:43,948 can't is is modest when he 712 00:42:43,948 --> 00:42:44,616 talks about the cas But I'm 713 00:42:44,616 --> 00:42:48,216 sure you all observed how he 714 00:42:49,387 --> 00:42:50,154 stood up a little taller his 715 00:42:50,154 --> 00:42:50,887 chest out a little bit more and 716 00:42:50,887 --> 00:42:54,359 that's because of the work that 717 00:42:54,359 --> 00:42:55,260 was done with the with cas with 718 00:42:55,260 --> 00:42:55,693 during his tenure as chair. 719 00:42:55,693 --> 00:42:59,293 So at the advice chair this 720 00:42:59,864 --> 00:43:00,531 year we are very excited about 721 00:43:00,531 --> 00:43:01,650 his leadership next year so 722 00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:01,733 that he can continue 723 00:43:01,733 --> 00:43:03,733 introducing more innovative 724 00:43:05,336 --> 00:43:06,204 ideas like cas. 725 00:43:06,204 --> 00:43:06,871 I'm going to walk us quickly 726 00:43:06,871 --> 00:43:09,271 through some other exciting 727 00:43:10,375 --> 00:43:11,175 things that are happening at 728 00:43:11,175 --> 00:43:11,843 the Port of San Diego the first 729 00:43:11,843 --> 00:43:12,610 one being Harbor Drive 2.0. 730 00:43:12,610 --> 00:43:15,610 And this project is about 731 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,248 modernizing movement. 732 00:43:17,248 --> 00:43:20,248 We reduce truck idling, improve 733 00:43:21,219 --> 00:43:21,920 safety and make access more 734 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,520 predictable while also moving 735 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,920 goods better and making 736 00:43:27,592 --> 00:43:28,359 breathing easier, easier. 737 00:43:28,359 --> 00:43:29,127 Harbor Drive is a front line 738 00:43:29,127 --> 00:43:32,563 corridor and has to work for 739 00:43:32,563 --> 00:43:33,980 freight visitors and nearby 740 00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:33,798 neighbors especially 741 00:43:33,798 --> 00:43:34,165 communities impacted by diesel 742 00:43:34,165 --> 00:43:36,165 emissions. 743 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:39,170 And it is not just a traffic 744 00:43:39,170 --> 00:43:42,170 project it's a health and 745 00:43:43,607 --> 00:43:44,309 mobility project aligned with 746 00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:44,943 our emissions reduction goals 747 00:43:44,943 --> 00:43:47,343 and regional partners like 748 00:43:49,681 --> 00:43:50,348 Caltrans and sandag who have 749 00:43:50,348 --> 00:43:50,982 been instrumental in making 750 00:43:50,982 --> 00:43:53,982 this project come to life. 751 00:43:55,954 --> 00:43:56,755 And what we're modernizing now 752 00:43:56,755 --> 00:43:57,388 One thing I also wanted to note 753 00:43:57,388 --> 00:43:58,230 that is already this year 754 00:43:58,230 --> 00:44:00,792 the port participated in a 755 00:44:00,792 --> 00:44:01,492 joint federal race grant 756 00:44:01,492 --> 00:44:02,160 application with Caltrans with 757 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:02,794 the goal of furthering this 758 00:44:02,794 --> 00:44:05,194 corridor concept and also 759 00:44:06,898 --> 00:44:07,566 environmental analysis is 760 00:44:07,566 --> 00:44:08,166 expected to be released for 761 00:44:08,166 --> 00:44:10,566 public review this fall. 762 00:44:17,976 --> 00:44:18,844 Next slide please. 763 00:44:18,844 --> 00:44:19,511 >> One of the exciting stories 764 00:44:19,511 --> 00:44:23,711 that we are able to tell at 765 00:44:23,848 --> 00:44:24,516 the Port of San Diego is about 766 00:44:24,516 --> 00:44:25,249 the blue economy incubator. 767 00:44:25,249 --> 00:44:25,951 You look at places like Silicon 768 00:44:25,951 --> 00:44:28,951 Valley that have become known 769 00:44:29,855 --> 00:44:30,555 for their tech innovation. 770 00:44:30,555 --> 00:44:31,289 The San Diego Bay has really 771 00:44:31,289 --> 00:44:34,889 become known all over the world 772 00:44:35,594 --> 00:44:36,461 for the innovation that we are 773 00:44:36,461 --> 00:44:36,995 doing in our San Diego Bay in 774 00:44:36,995 --> 00:44:38,995 terms of incubating 775 00:44:41,199 --> 00:44:41,834 technologies and concepts that 776 00:44:41,834 --> 00:44:42,167 will improve the blue tech 777 00:44:42,167 --> 00:44:44,167 economy. 778 00:44:47,272 --> 00:44:47,873 And so the Board of 779 00:44:47,873 --> 00:44:48,607 Commissioners last month 780 00:44:48,607 --> 00:44:49,274 approved the addition of our 13 781 00:44:49,274 --> 00:44:51,674 early stage water dependent 782 00:44:53,679 --> 00:44:54,279 company to the roster of 783 00:44:54,279 --> 00:44:54,812 the port's blue economy 784 00:44:54,812 --> 00:44:56,812 incubator portfolio. 785 00:44:59,318 --> 00:45:00,510 The new entrant is Naoko Design 786 00:45:00,510 --> 00:45:00,419 Corp Corporation, also known as 787 00:45:00,419 --> 00:45:02,419 Lux Blue. 788 00:45:03,722 --> 00:45:04,356 And one of the things that 789 00:45:04,356 --> 00:45:04,990 makes them so excited and 790 00:45:04,990 --> 00:45:05,524 exciting is that they have 791 00:45:05,524 --> 00:45:07,524 patented underwater 792 00:45:08,693 --> 00:45:09,328 bioluminescent lighting 793 00:45:09,328 --> 00:45:10,290 solution that will replace 794 00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:13,290 plastic glow sticks which are 795 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,601 harmful to the environment. 796 00:45:15,601 --> 00:45:18,601 The board agreed to fund 797 00:45:19,371 --> 00:45:20,390 the Lux bio startup for up to 798 00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:20,739 $350,000 for 18 months where 799 00:45:20,739 --> 00:45:24,339 they will be able to use 800 00:45:24,809 --> 00:45:25,477 the bay to test their enzyme 801 00:45:25,477 --> 00:45:26,450 powered underwater lighting 802 00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:26,412 technology at several 803 00:45:26,412 --> 00:45:28,412 locations. 804 00:45:30,816 --> 00:45:31,619 And in exchange they will pay 805 00:45:31,619 --> 00:45:32,384 us up to $2.1 million over time 806 00:45:32,384 --> 00:45:35,384 from eventual sales of their 807 00:45:36,822 --> 00:45:37,590 product. 808 00:45:37,590 --> 00:45:41,190 >> One of the proof points when 809 00:45:42,397 --> 00:45:43,195 we look at our entire portfolio 810 00:45:43,195 --> 00:45:46,795 is that we have had innovative 811 00:45:48,667 --> 00:45:49,401 technologies that have removed 812 00:45:49,401 --> 00:45:50,200 remove marine debris at a scale 813 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,200 of over 110,000 pounds. 814 00:45:55,374 --> 00:45:56,108 We have also had letting short 815 00:45:56,108 --> 00:45:59,108 land where 60 plus species were 816 00:46:00,313 --> 00:46:00,946 documented on bio enhancing 817 00:46:00,946 --> 00:46:01,680 armor units within months. 818 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,381 We're able to see real time 819 00:46:02,381 --> 00:46:04,381 environmental monitoring that 820 00:46:06,986 --> 00:46:07,553 replaces weeks long lab delays 821 00:46:07,553 --> 00:46:08,254 with actionable data. 822 00:46:08,254 --> 00:46:11,854 And so that same commitment to 823 00:46:12,825 --> 00:46:13,560 a healthier, more accessible 824 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:13,993 bay shows up in how we invest 825 00:46:13,993 --> 00:46:15,930 in our parks. 826 00:46:15,930 --> 00:46:15,394 Starting with Cesar Chavez Park 827 00:46:15,394 --> 00:46:17,394 . 828 00:46:22,334 --> 00:46:23,135 Next slide please. 829 00:46:23,135 --> 00:46:24,300 >> Commissioners, we get talked 830 00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:27,807 about some of the work that is 831 00:46:27,807 --> 00:46:28,307 doing to redesign the park in 832 00:46:28,307 --> 00:46:29,800 collaboration with 833 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,800 Councilmember Moreno's office. 834 00:46:33,746 --> 00:46:34,413 And I wanted to acknowledge 835 00:46:34,413 --> 00:46:35,470 that that work is not about, 836 00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:35,715 you know, consulting with 837 00:46:35,715 --> 00:46:38,115 the community afterwards But 838 00:46:39,184 --> 00:46:39,919 from the very beginning being 839 00:46:39,919 --> 00:46:40,620 integrated in the community and 840 00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:41,870 really getting feedback about 841 00:46:41,870 --> 00:46:43,870 what they want. 842 00:46:45,391 --> 00:46:46,920 And so the port will host a 843 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:46,659 free day at the park cultural 844 00:46:46,659 --> 00:46:48,659 celebration etc. Etc.. 845 00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:51,397 Chavez Park on Saturday APRIL 846 00:46:51,397 --> 00:46:52,980 11th from 11 to 3 P.M. This 847 00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:55,980 family friendly event is part 848 00:46:56,690 --> 00:46:56,803 of the port's expanded access 849 00:46:56,803 --> 00:46:57,437 program that really is designed 850 00:46:57,437 --> 00:47:00,437 to bring people out, bring 851 00:47:01,674 --> 00:47:02,174 residents out to our parks to 852 00:47:02,174 --> 00:47:02,641 be able to enjoy 853 00:47:02,641 --> 00:47:03,376 the waterfront. 854 00:47:03,376 --> 00:47:07,576 And we are able to sponsor a 855 00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:08,581 day of fun and entertainment 856 00:47:08,581 --> 00:47:09,249 And highlights include 857 00:47:09,249 --> 00:47:09,949 multicultural entertainment 858 00:47:09,949 --> 00:47:12,349 featuring local artists hands 859 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,188 on children's activities, 860 00:47:15,188 --> 00:47:15,888 interactive community booths 861 00:47:15,888 --> 00:47:16,256 and vouchers for free food and 862 00:47:16,256 --> 00:47:18,256 beverages. 863 00:47:20,526 --> 00:47:21,261 We are entering our third year 864 00:47:21,261 --> 00:47:21,927 of water activation program and 865 00:47:21,927 --> 00:47:24,927 we'll have similar events at 866 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:27,600 other parks throughout the bay. 867 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,268 All right. 868 00:47:28,268 --> 00:47:28,769 Our last sighted focus on 869 00:47:28,769 --> 00:47:31,169 the big bay boom. 870 00:47:32,380 --> 00:47:32,705 Every JULY we get very excited 871 00:47:32,705 --> 00:47:33,306 about this event that brings 872 00:47:33,306 --> 00:47:33,873 hundreds of thousands of 873 00:47:33,873 --> 00:47:36,273 visitors to San Diego. 874 00:47:39,712 --> 00:47:42,449 The port began to be the title 875 00:47:42,449 --> 00:47:43,249 sponsor of the Big Apple this 876 00:47:43,249 --> 00:47:43,883 4th of JULY with the fireworks 877 00:47:43,883 --> 00:47:44,384 event that draws crowds of 878 00:47:44,384 --> 00:47:46,384 300,000 attendees. 879 00:47:48,621 --> 00:47:49,289 The pyrotechnic show provides a 880 00:47:49,289 --> 00:47:49,990 boost to hotels, restaurants 881 00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:52,990 and small businesses and this 882 00:47:54,327 --> 00:47:55,610 year's show will be special as 883 00:47:55,610 --> 00:47:55,762 the nation celebrates the 250th 884 00:47:55,762 --> 00:47:56,262 anniversary of the signing of 885 00:47:56,262 --> 00:47:56,696 the Declaration of 886 00:47:56,696 --> 00:47:58,696 Independence. 887 00:48:01,268 --> 00:48:01,968 The port is partnering with 888 00:48:01,968 --> 00:48:02,602 Fleet Week San Diego as events 889 00:48:02,602 --> 00:48:05,200 new nonprofit partner and 890 00:48:05,939 --> 00:48:06,640 fiscal sponsor aligning 891 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,274 the celebration with an 892 00:48:07,274 --> 00:48:07,941 organization that directly 893 00:48:07,941 --> 00:48:10,341 supports active duty service 894 00:48:12,178 --> 00:48:14,178 members and veterans. 895 00:48:18,651 --> 00:48:19,419 The cost are the benefit to 896 00:48:19,419 --> 00:48:20,200 the bay is $1 million in terms 897 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,420 of the economic impact. 898 00:48:24,524 --> 00:48:25,225 And we also are excited to 899 00:48:25,225 --> 00:48:25,792 provide sponsorship to support 900 00:48:25,792 --> 00:48:28,192 cruise ships that are 901 00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:30,997 positioned in the bay during 902 00:48:30,997 --> 00:48:31,364 the event. 903 00:48:31,364 --> 00:48:31,798 All right. 904 00:48:31,798 --> 00:48:33,798 Thank you all. 905 00:48:35,935 --> 00:48:36,636 Thank you. 906 00:48:36,636 --> 00:48:37,237 And that concludes our report. 907 00:48:37,237 --> 00:48:37,604 We're happy to take any 908 00:48:37,604 --> 00:48:38,371 questions. 909 00:48:38,371 --> 00:48:41,274 I did just want to end on 910 00:48:41,274 --> 00:48:42,900 something that Commissioner 911 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:42,509 Moore references which is we're 912 00:48:42,509 --> 00:48:43,143 very grateful for 913 00:48:43,143 --> 00:48:45,543 the opportunity to serve. 914 00:48:48,215 --> 00:48:49,116 We appreciate their confidence. 915 00:48:49,116 --> 00:48:49,783 You showed us to do that on 916 00:48:49,783 --> 00:48:53,383 behalf of the people of San 917 00:48:54,788 --> 00:48:55,455 Diego And we also think it's 918 00:48:55,455 --> 00:48:56,256 been proven you really enjoy 919 00:48:56,256 --> 00:48:59,856 working with each other as well 920 00:49:00,227 --> 00:49:00,694 And so I want to thank you for 921 00:49:00,694 --> 00:49:01,395 the opportunity. 922 00:49:01,395 --> 00:49:01,762 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 923 00:49:01,762 --> 00:49:02,128 All right. 924 00:49:02,128 --> 00:49:04,128 Thank you. 925 00:49:06,166 --> 00:49:06,499 Thank you for the presentation 926 00:49:06,499 --> 00:49:07,200 . 927 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,768 Thank you for taking the time 928 00:49:07,768 --> 00:49:08,402 to come here and make 929 00:49:08,402 --> 00:49:09,350 the annual report and your 930 00:49:09,350 --> 00:49:12,500 service to the port and to 931 00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:12,840 the city as our representative. 932 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,440 So with that thought, please go 933 00:49:18,611 --> 00:49:18,979 to public comment. 934 00:49:18,979 --> 00:49:19,646 Thank you. 935 00:49:19,646 --> 00:49:20,347 Council PRESIDENT I'm sorry 936 00:49:20,347 --> 00:49:21,480 the five minute timer here in 937 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,383 council chambers because I do 938 00:49:23,383 --> 00:49:24,840 not have any speakers for this 939 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:24,751 item here in council chambers 940 00:49:24,751 --> 00:49:28,351 going to those on that line. 941 00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:31,358 John Stump If you can please 942 00:49:31,358 --> 00:49:34,358 unmute after that is Andrea 943 00:49:34,894 --> 00:49:35,429 Everingham the 8700 Johnson Hi 944 00:49:35,429 --> 00:49:36,130 ,good afternoon. 945 00:49:36,130 --> 00:49:39,730 You know the port report was 946 00:49:41,634 --> 00:49:42,303 very good but the problem is 947 00:49:42,303 --> 00:49:45,903 the port on one hand claims 948 00:49:47,107 --> 00:49:47,708 that it's trying to reduce 949 00:49:47,708 --> 00:49:49,708 carbon pollution, global 950 00:49:53,113 --> 00:49:53,881 warming and the environment all 951 00:49:53,881 --> 00:49:57,481 of the things that the port 952 00:49:58,986 --> 00:49:59,486 does create global warming and 953 00:49:59,486 --> 00:50:01,486 carbon production. 954 00:50:05,159 --> 00:50:05,993 So what's needed in the future 955 00:50:05,993 --> 00:50:09,593 is that for each activity we 956 00:50:11,165 --> 00:50:11,799 need to have an accounting of 957 00:50:11,799 --> 00:50:14,799 how much carbon, how much 958 00:50:16,970 --> 00:50:17,638 global warming pollution was 959 00:50:17,638 --> 00:50:18,390 created and what they did to 960 00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:20,390 decrease it. 961 00:50:23,978 --> 00:50:26,978 Folks, there's no free lunch. 962 00:50:28,215 --> 00:50:28,849 We can't on one hand salute 963 00:50:28,849 --> 00:50:31,249 climate change and global 964 00:50:34,155 --> 00:50:34,822 warming reduction and on 965 00:50:34,822 --> 00:50:37,822 the other hand increase our 966 00:50:40,327 --> 00:50:40,828 activities that burn fossil 967 00:50:40,828 --> 00:50:41,294 fuels and pollute 968 00:50:41,294 --> 00:50:43,294 the atmosphere. 969 00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:47,635 Thank you very much. 970 00:50:47,635 --> 00:50:48,569 >> Thank you. 971 00:50:48,569 --> 00:50:52,507 Next is Andrea I if you can 972 00:50:52,507 --> 00:50:52,874 please unmute. 973 00:50:52,874 --> 00:50:53,507 Hi guys. 974 00:50:53,507 --> 00:50:56,507 That was a really good 975 00:50:58,812 --> 00:50:59,580 presentation I think for 976 00:50:59,580 --> 00:51:00,348 the court in the area is just 977 00:51:00,348 --> 00:51:00,648 one of my favorite parts of San 978 00:51:00,648 --> 00:51:02,648 Diego. 979 00:51:05,186 --> 00:51:05,787 I think it's a really it's a 980 00:51:05,787 --> 00:51:06,487 place where upon arrival 981 00:51:06,487 --> 00:51:09,487 everyone is going to remember. 982 00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:11,858 So I like the plans I just saw 983 00:51:11,858 --> 00:51:15,458 a lot especially the last one 984 00:51:17,598 --> 00:51:18,333 where you know what's kind of 985 00:51:18,333 --> 00:51:19,670 like go over to Seaport Village 986 00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:22,670 and then just to somewhat 987 00:51:23,170 --> 00:51:24,171 piggyback on the last comment. 988 00:51:24,171 --> 00:51:28,971 I, I know we have quite a long 989 00:51:29,176 --> 00:51:29,877 history of fireworks and it's 990 00:51:29,877 --> 00:51:30,578 part of our skyline as part of 991 00:51:30,578 --> 00:51:30,878 San Diego for SeaWorld and all 992 00:51:30,878 --> 00:51:32,878 that. 993 00:51:35,116 --> 00:51:35,816 But I almost wonder if it's 994 00:51:35,816 --> 00:51:39,416 time to start looking at drone 995 00:51:41,890 --> 00:51:41,789 shows versus fireworks for 996 00:51:41,789 --> 00:51:42,490 the images, that sort of thing 997 00:51:42,490 --> 00:51:46,900 and the waste that is produced 998 00:51:46,794 --> 00:51:47,461 from those shows. 999 00:51:47,461 --> 00:51:48,128 I'm not quite sure what 1000 00:51:48,128 --> 00:51:48,762 the regulations would be faa 1001 00:51:48,762 --> 00:51:51,762 wise or aviation wise, but 1002 00:51:53,201 --> 00:51:53,935 there are certainly some really 1003 00:51:53,935 --> 00:51:54,635 solid vendors out there that do 1004 00:51:54,635 --> 00:51:57,635 amazing drone shows That could 1005 00:51:59,174 --> 00:51:59,774 be a great addition that 1006 00:51:59,774 --> 00:52:00,542 attraction to San Diego. 1007 00:52:00,542 --> 00:52:01,242 I think that whole area and 1008 00:52:01,242 --> 00:52:04,242 everything we just saw could 1009 00:52:06,181 --> 00:52:06,915 also be a great attraction for 1010 00:52:06,915 --> 00:52:07,682 I don't know if we're doing our 1011 00:52:07,682 --> 00:52:10,682 tourism What you can convince 1012 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,454 convention Visitors Bureau We 1013 00:52:12,454 --> 00:52:13,870 have something like that but we 1014 00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:15,487 could start campaigning in 1015 00:52:18,393 --> 00:52:19,127 feeder markets. 1016 00:52:19,127 --> 00:52:19,861 What I just saw from that 1017 00:52:19,861 --> 00:52:23,865 visual is enough for me to want 1018 00:52:23,865 --> 00:52:24,666 to visit If it was like long 1019 00:52:24,666 --> 00:52:25,200 Beach or in a house or 1020 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:25,633 something like that. 1021 00:52:25,633 --> 00:52:26,134 And that's it. 1022 00:52:26,134 --> 00:52:26,534 Thank you so much. 1023 00:52:26,534 --> 00:52:28,534 Thank you. 1024 00:52:29,271 --> 00:52:29,604 Next is 8700 if you can please 1025 00:52:29,604 --> 00:52:31,604 unmute. 1026 00:52:33,141 --> 00:52:36,741 After that is Hector and then 1027 00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:40,715 Kathleen Lippert. 1028 00:52:40,715 --> 00:52:41,150 Thank you Joyce and the other 1029 00:52:41,150 --> 00:52:43,150 three. 1030 00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:44,919 So good to see all of you 1031 00:52:44,919 --> 00:52:46,919 representing the court. 1032 00:52:49,324 --> 00:52:49,624 A great presentation from all 1033 00:52:49,624 --> 00:52:50,392 three. 1034 00:52:50,392 --> 00:52:50,892 And I have to say this on 1035 00:52:50,892 --> 00:52:52,892 record every time. 1036 00:52:55,464 --> 00:52:56,970 I love our working waterfront. 1037 00:52:56,970 --> 00:52:59,970 So you have three big 1038 00:53:00,702 --> 00:53:01,203 categories and you covered them 1039 00:53:01,203 --> 00:53:02,690 all very well. 1040 00:53:02,690 --> 00:53:02,404 I want to say a couple of 1041 00:53:02,404 --> 00:53:04,404 things. 1042 00:53:07,275 --> 00:53:07,976 First of all, the court honors 1043 00:53:07,976 --> 00:53:08,910 are military in big ways. 1044 00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:13,110 The military are one for a big 1045 00:53:13,148 --> 00:53:13,749 part of our San Diego family. 1046 00:53:13,749 --> 00:53:16,149 Thank you so much. 1047 00:53:19,287 --> 00:53:19,922 Health equity for all 1048 00:53:19,922 --> 00:53:20,289 maintaining the clear air 1049 00:53:20,289 --> 00:53:22,289 strategy. 1050 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:25,594 I believe that's a correct 1051 00:53:25,594 --> 00:53:25,994 theme of that. 1052 00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:26,562 Thank you. 1053 00:53:26,562 --> 00:53:27,195 Thank you for that. 1054 00:53:27,195 --> 00:53:29,595 Love the Electric cranes. 1055 00:53:31,732 --> 00:53:32,467 I just when they were when they 1056 00:53:32,467 --> 00:53:33,134 arrived it's just beyond belief 1057 00:53:33,134 --> 00:53:35,534 They're they're so amazing. 1058 00:53:37,172 --> 00:53:37,806 Thank you for that. 1059 00:53:37,806 --> 00:53:39,806 1220 Pacific Highway looks 1060 00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:44,412 positive and fresh. 1061 00:53:44,412 --> 00:53:47,412 Wow 1940s buildings That's well 1062 00:53:48,684 --> 00:53:49,417 over I guess about 85 years old 1063 00:53:49,417 --> 00:53:52,417 that those are strong buildings 1064 00:53:54,489 --> 00:53:58,890 best crews port in the world 1065 00:54:00,429 --> 00:54:01,130 That's an amazing statement And 1066 00:54:01,130 --> 00:54:01,830 the amount of economic impact 1067 00:54:01,830 --> 00:54:05,430 because of our being the best 1068 00:54:06,340 --> 00:54:06,635 port cruise port in the world 1069 00:54:06,635 --> 00:54:07,202 is so, so appreciated. 1070 00:54:07,202 --> 00:54:09,602 We need more revenue. 1071 00:54:12,975 --> 00:54:13,375 Everybody love the little Billy 1072 00:54:13,375 --> 00:54:13,809 at the park. 1073 00:54:13,809 --> 00:54:15,809 It's terrific. 1074 00:54:18,714 --> 00:54:19,140 I would just ask you to do 1075 00:54:19,140 --> 00:54:19,682 this. 1076 00:54:19,682 --> 00:54:20,382 Most of the people I talk to 1077 00:54:20,382 --> 00:54:22,184 really in downtown area do not 1078 00:54:22,184 --> 00:54:22,585 know much about the working 1079 00:54:22,585 --> 00:54:24,585 waterfront. 1080 00:54:30,292 --> 00:54:31,260 It's about the word. 1081 00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:31,327 Thank you for those comments if 1082 00:54:31,327 --> 00:54:32,610 I MAY. 1083 00:54:32,610 --> 00:54:33,280 A timer has concluded here in 1084 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:33,629 council chambers there are two 1085 00:54:33,629 --> 00:54:34,262 people in the queue No 1086 00:54:34,262 --> 00:54:34,563 additional people will be 1087 00:54:34,563 --> 00:54:35,231 taken. 1088 00:54:35,231 --> 00:54:35,831 Hector and Kathleen Lippert, 1089 00:54:35,831 --> 00:54:38,231 your final two speakers. 1090 00:54:40,135 --> 00:54:41,170 Hector begin, please. 1091 00:54:41,170 --> 00:54:45,370 >> I knew I have to hear that 1092 00:54:46,442 --> 00:54:47,176 the port has really have their 1093 00:54:47,176 --> 00:54:47,743 stuff together from the get go. 1094 00:54:47,743 --> 00:54:48,544 Guys did a great job. 1095 00:54:48,544 --> 00:54:51,947 I just wish the city could 1096 00:54:51,947 --> 00:54:52,648 model their game. 1097 00:54:52,648 --> 00:54:52,948 You guys Everything's looking 1098 00:54:52,948 --> 00:54:53,582 great. 1099 00:54:53,582 --> 00:54:56,582 The veterans things out of 1100 00:54:58,521 --> 00:54:59,455 Midway. 1101 00:54:59,455 --> 00:55:00,256 i think you guys got to get on 1102 00:55:00,256 --> 00:55:03,256 it because know there's burning 1103 00:55:03,926 --> 00:55:04,760 daylight guys getting old You 1104 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,560 guys got to step it up like six 1105 00:55:09,765 --> 00:55:10,366 months so it can be done before 1106 00:55:10,366 --> 00:55:11,234 you check it out. 1107 00:55:11,234 --> 00:55:15,434 But he's a great guy So also 1108 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:18,341 he's building on once we build 1109 00:55:18,341 --> 00:55:19,308 a tunnel on the Strand I told 1110 00:55:19,308 --> 00:55:22,245 you about it but now instead of 1111 00:55:22,245 --> 00:55:22,978 just trying to do that with 1112 00:55:22,978 --> 00:55:27,178 the Navy so you open up another 1113 00:55:28,217 --> 00:55:28,918 part of San Diego Bay and it 1114 00:55:28,918 --> 00:55:29,585 would be like on the southern 1115 00:55:29,585 --> 00:55:33,185 end there put up jetties in 1116 00:55:34,957 --> 00:55:35,591 there and have a tunnel go 1117 00:55:35,591 --> 00:55:36,292 the road go underneath it, 1118 00:55:36,292 --> 00:55:38,995 maybe another project to work 1119 00:55:38,995 --> 00:55:39,862 on to the port and whatever he 1120 00:55:39,862 --> 00:55:40,596 has to do is full speed ahead, 1121 00:55:40,596 --> 00:55:41,300 get it done And thanks a lot 1122 00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:43,300 for your time. 1123 00:55:45,968 --> 00:55:46,369 Thanks. 1124 00:55:46,369 --> 00:55:47,690 Thank you. 1125 00:55:47,690 --> 00:55:47,403 Our final speaker is Kathleen 1126 00:55:47,403 --> 00:55:49,403 Lippert. 1127 00:55:50,807 --> 00:55:51,407 If you can please unmute. 1128 00:55:51,407 --> 00:55:52,174 >> Thank you. 1129 00:55:52,174 --> 00:55:52,675 Good morning and thank you for 1130 00:55:52,675 --> 00:55:54,675 the presentation. 1131 00:55:56,779 --> 00:55:57,447 It was a great presentation. 1132 00:55:57,447 --> 00:55:58,181 Really do appreciate all of 1133 00:55:58,181 --> 00:56:01,181 your suggestions and plans to 1134 00:56:03,353 --> 00:56:05,753 increase and improve park 1135 00:56:08,925 --> 00:56:09,625 amenities and park acreage. 1136 00:56:09,625 --> 00:56:10,393 The Clean Air Strategy is 1137 00:56:10,393 --> 00:56:13,393 something that San Diego will 1138 00:56:15,398 --> 00:56:15,965 welcome and I am hoping that 1139 00:56:15,965 --> 00:56:18,365 there is pushback from 1140 00:56:21,271 --> 00:56:21,937 the board as to the taking or 1141 00:56:21,937 --> 00:56:24,337 transitioning of mission Bay 1142 00:56:26,776 --> 00:56:27,477 Park land to commercial 1143 00:56:27,477 --> 00:56:30,477 amenities and taking away any 1144 00:56:32,282 --> 00:56:32,982 of that from the public. 1145 00:56:32,982 --> 00:56:33,683 It's really a disturbing 1146 00:56:33,683 --> 00:56:37,283 prospect But thank you for all 1147 00:56:38,822 --> 00:56:39,422 you're doing right now. 1148 00:56:39,422 --> 00:56:40,156 >> Appreciate it. 1149 00:56:40,156 --> 00:56:40,557 Thank you for letting me think. 1150 00:56:40,557 --> 00:56:42,557 Thank you. 1151 00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:44,930 That concludes with a comment 1152 00:56:44,930 --> 00:56:44,460 on item 200. 1153 00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:45,280 All right. 1154 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:45,929 Thank you, City Clerk. 1155 00:56:45,929 --> 00:56:49,529 As a reminder, this is an 1156 00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:50,834 information item and no motions 1157 00:56:50,834 --> 00:56:51,534 required turned over to council 1158 00:56:51,534 --> 00:56:52,680 members for questions Comment 1159 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,468 and we'll start with 1160 00:56:55,471 --> 00:56:56,306 Councilmember Isla Rivera. 1161 00:56:56,306 --> 00:56:56,740 Resident Thank you to our port 1162 00:56:56,740 --> 00:56:58,740 commissioners. 1163 00:56:59,508 --> 00:57:02,508 Really appreciate all three of 1164 00:57:05,348 --> 00:57:06,116 you The time that you all spend 1165 00:57:06,116 --> 00:57:06,783 the way that you show up And 1166 00:57:06,783 --> 00:57:07,484 I'm really appreciating that 1167 00:57:07,484 --> 00:57:11,840 San Diego is super well served 1168 00:57:11,388 --> 00:57:12,880 by all three of you and I 1169 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,880 appreciate you doing the work 1170 00:57:16,693 --> 00:57:17,394 that you do The update Great. 1171 00:57:17,394 --> 00:57:18,940 Lots of good stuff. 1172 00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:21,940 I really very much appreciate 1173 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:24,340 how much of what is is coming 1174 00:57:24,340 --> 00:57:24,668 online will benefit or at least 1175 00:57:24,668 --> 00:57:25,368 can benefit San Diego and 1176 00:57:25,368 --> 00:57:28,368 provide access points for San 1177 00:57:29,772 --> 00:57:30,340 Diego and especially young 1178 00:57:30,340 --> 00:57:32,340 people even sheltered 1179 00:57:35,479 --> 00:57:36,213 the shelter island park 1180 00:57:36,213 --> 00:57:36,880 the little park that that there 1181 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:37,614 I took my son there a couple 1182 00:57:37,614 --> 00:57:40,550 weeks ago and it's a great 1183 00:57:40,550 --> 00:57:41,385 little playground. 1184 00:57:41,385 --> 00:57:42,850 Um so appreciate the updates 1185 00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:45,850 there and the progress that's 1186 00:57:46,556 --> 00:57:50,156 being made still I think that's 1187 00:57:51,761 --> 00:57:52,462 pretty incredible in terms of 1188 00:57:52,462 --> 00:57:53,960 updates on on cruise ships. 1189 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,960 I'm curious is is there 1190 00:57:58,301 --> 00:57:59,690 something in particular that 1191 00:57:59,690 --> 00:58:03,269 you think changed or is it like 1192 00:58:05,208 --> 00:58:05,909 they experimented elsewhere and 1193 00:58:05,909 --> 00:58:06,376 kind of forgot what the thing 1194 00:58:06,376 --> 00:58:06,877 they have here? 1195 00:58:06,877 --> 00:58:07,511 What do you think 1196 00:58:07,511 --> 00:58:10,413 the difference was on that 1197 00:58:10,413 --> 00:58:11,810 front? 1198 00:58:11,810 --> 00:58:11,648 Thank you Council Member I 1199 00:58:11,648 --> 00:58:14,480 think it's actually a 1200 00:58:16,387 --> 00:58:16,720 combination of multiple things 1201 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:17,387 . 1202 00:58:17,387 --> 00:58:20,387 I think we've heard from 1203 00:58:22,126 --> 00:58:22,793 the cruise industry that their 1204 00:58:22,793 --> 00:58:23,460 guests, their cruisers they 1205 00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:23,927 actually really like the San 1206 00:58:23,927 --> 00:58:25,927 Diego homeport. 1207 00:58:28,399 --> 00:58:29,199 I think that actually drove 1208 00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:30,000 drives a lot of their thinking. 1209 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,200 I think that they also did as 1210 00:58:34,371 --> 00:58:35,338 to your kind of like thinking 1211 00:58:35,338 --> 00:58:36,390 about it that they did do a lot 1212 00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:39,390 of experimentation in Asia And 1213 00:58:39,343 --> 00:58:40,311 I think just the you know 1214 00:58:40,311 --> 00:58:43,911 typically a 3 to 5 day kind of 1215 00:58:44,810 --> 00:58:44,782 trip to through Baja actually 1216 00:58:44,782 --> 00:58:45,549 is one that works really well 1217 00:58:45,549 --> 00:58:49,749 even just from a not just from 1218 00:58:49,820 --> 00:58:50,487 a visitor experience or 1219 00:58:50,487 --> 00:58:51,550 customer experience but also 1220 00:58:51,550 --> 00:58:51,588 just from an economics 1221 00:58:51,588 --> 00:58:53,588 perspective as well. 1222 00:58:55,125 --> 00:58:55,859 And and I can't thank enough 1223 00:58:55,859 --> 00:58:56,594 our maritime team who have been 1224 00:58:56,594 --> 00:58:59,594 really diligent about going out 1225 00:59:02,660 --> 00:59:02,767 and actually engaging each of 1226 00:59:02,767 --> 00:59:03,400 our cruise line industries and 1227 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,134 keeping ones like Holland 1228 00:59:04,134 --> 00:59:07,734 America who's been on board for 1229 00:59:07,905 --> 00:59:08,606 some time now very much engaged 1230 00:59:08,606 --> 00:59:12,206 and excited about what we have 1231 00:59:14,545 --> 00:59:15,212 to offer and I know that there 1232 00:59:15,212 --> 00:59:15,846 are a couple of new cruise 1233 00:59:15,846 --> 00:59:18,846 liners that are looking at 1234 00:59:20,650 --> 00:59:21,385 doing home ports with us So I 1235 00:59:21,385 --> 00:59:22,530 actually think the next time we 1236 00:59:22,530 --> 00:59:22,720 come here we might have some 1237 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:23,387 bigger updates for you but I 1238 00:59:23,387 --> 00:59:23,788 think it's a combination of 1239 00:59:23,788 --> 00:59:25,788 those three. 1240 00:59:26,457 --> 00:59:27,225 I just want to add to that You 1241 00:59:27,225 --> 00:59:27,925 know, I think when Commissioner 1242 00:59:27,925 --> 00:59:28,626 Barack Obama talks about they 1243 00:59:28,626 --> 00:59:32,226 like the San Diego home port, 1244 00:59:32,331 --> 00:59:32,997 they like being able to be 1245 00:59:32,997 --> 00:59:33,664 dropped in the middle of our 1246 00:59:33,664 --> 00:59:34,332 city and all that it offers. 1247 00:59:34,332 --> 00:59:37,332 They like being adjacent to 1248 00:59:37,701 --> 00:59:38,302 the airport where you look at 1249 00:59:38,302 --> 00:59:39,360 other places in Southern 1250 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,360 California where it's so remote 1251 00:59:43,641 --> 00:59:44,342 the port is isolated from a lot 1252 00:59:44,342 --> 00:59:45,420 of things that are accessible. 1253 00:59:45,420 --> 00:59:45,775 But here in San Diego you get 1254 00:59:45,775 --> 00:59:49,147 dropped here and you get access 1255 00:59:49,147 --> 00:59:49,780 to our entire city, to our 1256 00:59:49,780 --> 00:59:50,281 transportation system, to 1257 00:59:50,281 --> 00:59:51,480 the train system. 1258 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,553 And so it opens up so much for 1259 00:59:55,553 --> 00:59:55,853 people when they come to San 1260 00:59:55,853 --> 00:59:56,554 Diego. 1261 00:59:56,554 --> 00:59:57,188 They're not just coming to you 1262 00:59:57,188 --> 01:00:00,425 know, just go to the port. 1263 01:00:00,425 --> 01:00:01,292 They're coming to see San Diego 1264 01:00:01,292 --> 01:00:01,592 and see all that it has to 1265 01:00:01,592 --> 01:00:02,627 offer. 1266 01:00:02,627 --> 01:00:07,427 On that point I have to share a 1267 01:00:07,932 --> 01:00:08,633 quick anecdote which was I was 1268 01:00:08,633 --> 01:00:09,467 at Ralphs bagging my groceries 1269 01:00:09,467 --> 01:00:13,438 in line and I was where my port 1270 01:00:13,438 --> 01:00:14,105 San Diego jacket and 1271 01:00:14,105 --> 01:00:14,605 the cashier asked me Do you 1272 01:00:14,605 --> 01:00:15,273 work at the port? 1273 01:00:15,273 --> 01:00:16,700 And it's actually one of our 1274 01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:19,510 commuters here in San Diego And 1275 01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:20,145 she said What are you bringing 1276 01:00:20,145 --> 01:00:20,745 back a certain cruise line 1277 01:00:20,745 --> 01:00:21,790 because I hate going my 1278 01:00:21,790 --> 01:00:21,812 husband. 1279 01:00:21,812 --> 01:00:25,350 I hate going to Long Beach So I 1280 01:00:25,350 --> 01:00:25,717 kind of like several. 1281 01:00:25,717 --> 01:00:26,384 Thank you. 1282 01:00:26,384 --> 01:00:29,384 One question that I've asked 1283 01:00:31,656 --> 01:00:32,357 every time you all come upon 20 1284 01:00:32,357 --> 01:00:35,357 what's going on with line 20? 1285 01:00:36,861 --> 01:00:37,362 What's the progress there? 1286 01:00:37,362 --> 01:00:39,362 Thanks COUNCILMAN. 1287 01:00:42,133 --> 01:00:46,333 I feel like I just looked at 1288 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:48,673 the potato so long process 1289 01:00:48,673 --> 01:00:49,339 obviously right And at 1290 01:00:49,339 --> 01:00:52,939 the moment So there are six 1291 01:00:54,245 --> 01:00:54,946 agencies participating in 1292 01:00:54,946 --> 01:00:55,580 the interagency review team to 1293 01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:57,980 develop a banking enabling 1294 01:00:59,885 --> 01:01:00,686 instrument along with port So 1295 01:01:00,686 --> 01:01:01,386 maybe I should start by for 1296 01:01:01,386 --> 01:01:01,953 those who are unfamiliar with 1297 01:01:01,953 --> 01:01:04,353 what a banking enabled 1298 01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:07,726 instrument is that's actually 1299 01:01:07,726 --> 01:01:08,226 the legal binding agreement 1300 01:01:08,226 --> 01:01:08,927 between the bank. 1301 01:01:08,927 --> 01:01:09,194 The bank sponsor Sorry to stop 1302 01:01:09,194 --> 01:01:11,194 you. 1303 01:01:13,431 --> 01:01:14,650 I think maybe maybe even a 1304 01:01:14,650 --> 01:01:14,766 little bit more about what 1305 01:01:14,766 --> 01:01:15,500 point one is if you don't mind 1306 01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:16,100 if I count the PRESIDENT's okay 1307 01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:17,803 with a little bit of an 1308 01:01:17,803 --> 01:01:18,236 overview for those who don't 1309 01:01:18,236 --> 01:01:18,603 know. 1310 01:01:18,603 --> 01:01:19,204 >> Sure. 1311 01:01:19,204 --> 01:01:19,971 Thank you Councilmember. 1312 01:01:19,971 --> 01:01:22,371 It's it's basically like 1313 01:01:25,175 --> 01:01:25,877 wetlands mitigation projects So 1314 01:01:25,877 --> 01:01:28,277 ensuring that there's specific 1315 01:01:31,150 --> 01:01:35,215 space that we at the port of 1316 01:01:37,550 --> 01:01:37,922 City will preserve for our it's 1317 01:01:37,922 --> 01:01:38,890 I want to say it's 80 acres. 1318 01:01:38,890 --> 01:01:42,490 Good job, Nelson Thank you very 1319 01:01:42,594 --> 01:01:43,395 much Councilmember. 1320 01:01:43,395 --> 01:01:44,290 I just needed to ask you that 1321 01:01:44,290 --> 01:01:44,429 That is preserve wetlands 1322 01:01:44,429 --> 01:01:46,429 mitigation. 1323 01:01:48,366 --> 01:01:49,670 So what happens is oftentimes a 1324 01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:49,835 developer will get as they're 1325 01:01:49,835 --> 01:01:54,350 trying to do a a project will 1326 01:01:55,139 --> 01:01:55,707 be required to have a specific 1327 01:01:55,707 --> 01:01:56,375 set aside for uplands 1328 01:01:56,375 --> 01:01:58,775 mitigation for the developer 1329 01:02:00,579 --> 01:02:01,246 that they're doing and they'll 1330 01:02:01,246 --> 01:02:01,979 typically pay off a certain 1331 01:02:01,979 --> 01:02:06,179 kind of amount of money for a 1332 01:02:06,318 --> 01:02:07,190 loop fee that says okay here's 1333 01:02:07,190 --> 01:02:07,753 this cash for preservation and 1334 01:02:07,753 --> 01:02:10,753 it's oftentimes just siloed and 1335 01:02:11,757 --> 01:02:12,524 in different spaces. 1336 01:02:12,524 --> 01:02:13,325 This particular project would 1337 01:02:13,325 --> 01:02:16,925 ensure that that space here at 1338 01:02:17,563 --> 01:02:18,263 the Tidelands would be 1339 01:02:18,263 --> 01:02:18,964 preserved and could be used as 1340 01:02:18,964 --> 01:02:21,964 this bank For other developers 1341 01:02:23,302 --> 01:02:23,969 who are looking to determine 1342 01:02:23,969 --> 01:02:24,636 projects, the money that's 1343 01:02:24,636 --> 01:02:27,636 received can be then turned 1344 01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:29,641 into an equity economic 1345 01:02:29,641 --> 01:02:30,308 development opportunities. 1346 01:02:30,308 --> 01:02:33,908 So it's actually the city of 1347 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:35,981 San Diego and Imperial Beach 1348 01:02:35,981 --> 01:02:36,615 would be the recipients of 1349 01:02:36,615 --> 01:02:37,182 those potential resources. 1350 01:02:37,182 --> 01:02:39,582 I hope that's helpful. 1351 01:02:41,387 --> 01:02:42,860 Councilmember And then 1352 01:02:42,860 --> 01:02:42,755 the actual in banking enabling 1353 01:02:42,755 --> 01:02:45,755 instrument as I mentioned is 1354 01:02:47,250 --> 01:02:47,759 the legally binding agreement 1355 01:02:47,759 --> 01:02:48,460 between the regulatory agencies 1356 01:02:48,460 --> 01:02:52,600 and the bank sponsor which is 1357 01:02:52,765 --> 01:02:53,399 the port of San Diego. 1358 01:02:53,399 --> 01:02:54,660 And through that agreement 1359 01:02:54,660 --> 01:02:57,660 that's where we actually are 1360 01:02:59,571 --> 01:02:59,972 looking at defining how credits 1361 01:02:59,972 --> 01:03:00,272 are created. 1362 01:03:00,272 --> 01:03:01,106 Right? 1363 01:03:01,106 --> 01:03:01,807 So like again I just did a very 1364 01:03:01,807 --> 01:03:04,807 big overview but the agreement 1365 01:03:04,843 --> 01:03:05,544 itself is will determine how 1366 01:03:05,544 --> 01:03:06,245 those credits are created, how 1367 01:03:06,245 --> 01:03:06,679 they are released and then how 1368 01:03:06,679 --> 01:03:08,679 they are sold. 1369 01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:11,650 >> So the interagency review 1370 01:03:11,650 --> 01:03:12,318 team partly consists of 1371 01:03:12,318 --> 01:03:15,318 the Army Corps of Engineers, 1372 01:03:17,122 --> 01:03:17,790 the epa, the U.S. Department of 1373 01:03:17,790 --> 01:03:18,456 Fish and Wildlife Services, 1374 01:03:18,456 --> 01:03:20,856 noa, the California Regional 1375 01:03:22,194 --> 01:03:22,895 Water Quality Control Board and 1376 01:03:22,895 --> 01:03:23,596 California Coastal Commission. 1377 01:03:23,596 --> 01:03:24,330 So where we stand right now is 1378 01:03:24,330 --> 01:03:27,330 that there has been an 1379 01:03:28,868 --> 01:03:29,501 iterative process of back and 1380 01:03:29,501 --> 01:03:30,169 forth with questions being 1381 01:03:30,169 --> 01:03:32,569 addressed by the interagency 1382 01:03:34,139 --> 01:03:34,906 review team and currently we 1383 01:03:34,906 --> 01:03:37,906 have a thousand comments from 1384 01:03:41,470 --> 01:03:41,714 the that that team and we are 1385 01:03:41,714 --> 01:03:42,415 actually going through those 1386 01:03:42,415 --> 01:03:44,815 because they're all technical 1387 01:03:46,952 --> 01:03:47,653 in nature and the port's plan 1388 01:03:47,653 --> 01:03:48,287 is to resubmit with answers to 1389 01:03:48,287 --> 01:03:48,620 those questions later this 1390 01:03:48,620 --> 01:03:50,620 spring. 1391 01:03:52,491 --> 01:03:53,259 >> Got it. 1392 01:03:53,259 --> 01:03:54,126 And I don't know there's any 1393 01:03:54,126 --> 01:03:57,726 way of even projecting out or 1394 01:03:58,864 --> 01:03:59,598 is there a hope for when this 1395 01:03:59,598 --> 01:04:03,198 turns into the sort of Wetlands 1396 01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:05,238 rehab project that is 1397 01:04:05,238 --> 01:04:05,905 envisioned or I don't know if I 1398 01:04:05,905 --> 01:04:06,239 can say envision but nothing 1399 01:04:06,239 --> 01:04:08,239 simple. 1400 01:04:10,676 --> 01:04:11,310 So for sometimes like again 1401 01:04:11,310 --> 01:04:12,440 once we submit these these 1402 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:12,678 questions are the easy answers. 1403 01:04:12,678 --> 01:04:15,881 I have a feeling there are 1404 01:04:15,881 --> 01:04:16,249 going to be multiple more 1405 01:04:16,249 --> 01:04:16,682 questions. 1406 01:04:16,682 --> 01:04:17,450 Keep on that. 1407 01:04:17,450 --> 01:04:21,500 I will say this Councilmember I 1408 01:04:21,988 --> 01:04:22,588 asked Port staff for a monthly 1409 01:04:22,588 --> 01:04:23,289 meeting to just keep you 1410 01:04:23,289 --> 01:04:26,289 updated on where things stand. 1411 01:04:27,894 --> 01:04:28,594 So the hope is that we can move 1412 01:04:28,594 --> 01:04:29,328 this along as fast as possible 1413 01:04:29,328 --> 01:04:29,929 because it's a real opportunity 1414 01:04:29,929 --> 01:04:33,529 We can turn this into an 1415 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:34,734 economic development banking 1416 01:04:34,734 --> 01:04:35,568 instrument for inequity for San 1417 01:04:35,568 --> 01:04:39,168 Diego and Imperial Beach And I 1418 01:04:39,706 --> 01:04:40,439 think if it was natural 1419 01:04:40,439 --> 01:04:44,390 wetlands or at one point before 1420 01:04:45,177 --> 01:04:45,545 it was a salt like a commercial 1421 01:04:45,545 --> 01:04:45,979 salt pond. 1422 01:04:45,979 --> 01:04:47,979 That's right. 1423 01:04:50,850 --> 01:04:51,150 So that's the restoration as 1424 01:04:51,150 --> 01:04:51,517 well. 1425 01:04:51,517 --> 01:04:52,151 Thank you. 1426 01:04:52,151 --> 01:04:52,818 Appreciate that update And 1427 01:04:52,818 --> 01:04:55,818 thank you again everyone for 1428 01:04:57,490 --> 01:04:58,157 all the work that you're doing. 1429 01:04:58,157 --> 01:04:58,824 >> Really, really appreciate 1430 01:04:58,824 --> 01:04:59,525 everything that you're doing 1431 01:04:59,525 --> 01:05:03,229 and have done and I think got 1432 01:05:03,229 --> 01:05:03,796 some real reverb going back to 1433 01:05:03,796 --> 01:05:04,230 Councilmember Moreno. 1434 01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:04,898 >> Wonderful. 1435 01:05:04,898 --> 01:05:08,498 Thank you and thank you for 1436 01:05:08,502 --> 01:05:09,235 the presentation. 1437 01:05:09,235 --> 01:05:09,803 I want to thank our port 1438 01:05:09,803 --> 01:05:10,470 commissioners just for 1439 01:05:10,470 --> 01:05:13,470 everything they do San Diego 1440 01:05:14,507 --> 01:05:15,275 Port There is no other port 1441 01:05:15,275 --> 01:05:19,245 like it I would venture to say 1442 01:05:19,245 --> 01:05:19,879 in the whole world it's 1443 01:05:19,879 --> 01:05:20,580 extremely dynamic Hotels, 1444 01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:22,580 shipbuilding, navy, potential 1445 01:05:26,386 --> 01:05:26,753 mitigation banks and city 1446 01:05:26,753 --> 01:05:27,530 residents. 1447 01:05:27,530 --> 01:05:27,787 Right. 1448 01:05:27,787 --> 01:05:31,387 And there is nothing like this. 1449 01:05:32,926 --> 01:05:33,593 So it's really clear to me that 1450 01:05:33,593 --> 01:05:34,260 a great deal of planning and 1451 01:05:34,260 --> 01:05:34,961 coordinating and vision has 1452 01:05:34,961 --> 01:05:38,970 gone into the efforts that you 1453 01:05:38,970 --> 01:05:38,832 guys presented and I do 1454 01:05:38,832 --> 01:05:39,532 appreciate the transparency and 1455 01:05:39,532 --> 01:05:43,132 sharing the progress to us and 1456 01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:44,536 also to the public. 1457 01:05:44,536 --> 01:05:45,238 I am very excited about all 1458 01:05:45,238 --> 01:05:48,238 the projects In particular I 1459 01:05:50,410 --> 01:05:54,100 want to point out a Harbor 1460 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:55,649 Drive 2.0 the pon 20 that was 1461 01:05:55,649 --> 01:05:56,349 just mentioned that's in 1462 01:05:56,349 --> 01:05:56,983 District eight and especially 1463 01:05:56,983 --> 01:05:58,983 the significant investment 1464 01:06:00,821 --> 01:06:01,254 the port is making into it as a 1465 01:06:01,254 --> 01:06:02,880 obvious park. 1466 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,688 As was mentioned pon 20 is a 1467 01:06:06,893 --> 01:06:07,494 salt encrusted area which 1468 01:06:07,494 --> 01:06:08,195 the port will hopefully 1469 01:06:08,195 --> 01:06:11,195 transfer it into a mitigation 1470 01:06:12,799 --> 01:06:13,300 bank first of its kind in 1471 01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:15,700 the San Diego Bay. 1472 01:06:19,143 --> 01:06:19,739 I once upon a time was a 1473 01:06:19,739 --> 01:06:22,139 staffer where there were 1474 01:06:24,770 --> 01:06:24,644 proposals for this pon 20 and I 1475 01:06:24,644 --> 01:06:25,345 think one of the most 1476 01:06:25,345 --> 01:06:28,345 interesting one was a medieval 1477 01:06:30,517 --> 01:06:31,185 Times arena. 1478 01:06:31,185 --> 01:06:33,585 Obviously we're we're worlds 1479 01:06:36,590 --> 01:06:40,790 away from an arena but I will 1480 01:06:42,620 --> 01:06:42,729 say that I will be specifically 1481 01:06:42,729 --> 01:06:43,430 asking what delays have we 1482 01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:45,830 experienced in pon 20 at 1483 01:06:48,335 --> 01:06:48,936 the state level And you 1484 01:06:48,936 --> 01:06:49,636 mentioned that what was 1485 01:06:49,636 --> 01:06:53,236 the agency that you guys were 1486 01:06:55,275 --> 01:06:55,976 the port is Waianae is putting 1487 01:06:55,976 --> 01:06:58,976 together its response to this 1488 01:07:00,481 --> 01:07:01,215 agency right on an array of 1489 01:07:01,215 --> 01:07:02,150 questions that they have asked. 1490 01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:06,215 If I MAY just kind of clarify 1491 01:07:07,387 --> 01:07:08,880 that Councilmember that's so 1492 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:08,822 we're the bank sponsor and so 1493 01:07:08,822 --> 01:07:13,220 we have to respond to the inner 1494 01:07:13,494 --> 01:07:14,161 agency review team. 1495 01:07:14,161 --> 01:07:14,895 So that's called the agency 1496 01:07:14,895 --> 01:07:15,661 review team And is that a state 1497 01:07:15,661 --> 01:07:19,261 agency or is that a federal 1498 01:07:21,350 --> 01:07:21,902 It's both. 1499 01:07:21,902 --> 01:07:25,138 So it's the six members of that 1500 01:07:25,138 --> 01:07:25,839 I r t is the Army Corps of 1501 01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:26,507 Engineers, epa, us Department, 1502 01:07:26,507 --> 01:07:28,907 Fish and Wildlife Services. 1503 01:07:32,246 --> 01:07:33,130 Noah Gotcha. 1504 01:07:33,130 --> 01:07:33,747 And then the Kaplan Regional 1505 01:07:33,747 --> 01:07:34,348 Water Quality Control Board and 1506 01:07:34,348 --> 01:07:35,150 the California coast of 1507 01:07:35,150 --> 01:07:37,718 California goes to thank you 1508 01:07:37,718 --> 01:07:38,452 for reiterate that I missed it 1509 01:07:38,452 --> 01:07:42,520 when you first mentioned it And 1510 01:07:43,324 --> 01:07:43,957 so you guys will respond or 1511 01:07:43,957 --> 01:07:44,291 the Port of San Diego will 1512 01:07:44,291 --> 01:07:45,920 respond. 1513 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,920 >> How long will that response 1514 01:07:49,697 --> 01:07:50,464 take? 1515 01:07:50,464 --> 01:07:51,165 >> And again, I think that 1516 01:07:51,165 --> 01:07:51,632 we've been doing it's been an 1517 01:07:51,632 --> 01:07:52,399 interim process. 1518 01:07:52,399 --> 01:07:55,369 So to be clear like just so you 1519 01:07:55,369 --> 01:07:56,103 know, this isn't the first 1520 01:07:56,103 --> 01:07:59,103 response we've been having back 1521 01:08:01,308 --> 01:08:02,760 and forth but the most recent 1522 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:02,676 set of questions and comments 1523 01:08:02,676 --> 01:08:03,440 we received were over a 1524 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,440 thousand. 1525 01:08:07,581 --> 01:08:08,249 And so we're looking at and now 1526 01:08:08,249 --> 01:08:08,982 everybody at the Port of San 1527 01:08:08,982 --> 01:08:12,582 Diego are on the record because 1528 01:08:12,653 --> 01:08:13,420 I'm saying it that they told us 1529 01:08:13,420 --> 01:08:13,921 but it's going to be submitted 1530 01:08:13,921 --> 01:08:14,589 later this spring. 1531 01:08:14,589 --> 01:08:16,989 Later this spring, Correct. 1532 01:08:18,858 --> 01:08:19,460 So before JUNE 20th, 2026 And I 1533 01:08:19,460 --> 01:08:22,460 have a feeling you'll be 1534 01:08:23,631 --> 01:08:24,398 calling me when I do and I'm 1535 01:08:24,398 --> 01:08:25,980 just trying to I want to I 1536 01:08:25,980 --> 01:08:28,980 mentioned this earlier I have 1537 01:08:29,704 --> 01:08:30,438 until DECEMBER and since I have 1538 01:08:30,438 --> 01:08:31,272 been working at the city of San 1539 01:08:31,272 --> 01:08:35,472 Diego I feel like this is a 1540 01:08:36,770 --> 01:08:36,777 missed opportunity because of 1541 01:08:36,777 --> 01:08:40,977 the land The land that we have 1542 01:08:41,849 --> 01:08:42,517 in pon 20 is I mean Poseidon 1543 01:08:42,517 --> 01:08:45,517 used used it for mitigation 1544 01:08:46,530 --> 01:08:46,521 right next to upon 20 and they 1545 01:08:46,521 --> 01:08:47,188 mitigated it for 1546 01:08:47,188 --> 01:08:47,722 the desalinization plant in 1547 01:08:47,722 --> 01:08:50,122 the northern part of 1548 01:08:52,593 --> 01:08:53,361 the district and northern part 1549 01:08:53,361 --> 01:08:54,620 of the county And it's I think 1550 01:08:54,620 --> 01:08:54,762 it's a great opportunity and i 1551 01:08:54,762 --> 01:08:57,762 know developers and folks are 1552 01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:59,701 looking for land like pon 22 to 1553 01:08:59,701 --> 01:09:02,701 bring back to life and 1554 01:09:04,605 --> 01:09:05,506 obviously in the South Bay for 1555 01:09:05,506 --> 01:09:09,106 any folks who ever drive over 1556 01:09:10,377 --> 01:09:11,112 towards going on old state 1557 01:09:11,112 --> 01:09:14,112 Route 75 Palm Avenue and you're 1558 01:09:16,350 --> 01:09:17,151 going over towards the ocean 1559 01:09:17,151 --> 01:09:17,852 it's the big piece of land 1560 01:09:17,852 --> 01:09:18,154 that's over on your right hand 1561 01:09:18,154 --> 01:09:18,753 side. 1562 01:09:18,753 --> 01:09:20,753 Unfortunately that's or 1563 01:09:23,457 --> 01:09:23,958 fortunately that is what 1564 01:09:23,958 --> 01:09:26,358 the South Bay has. 1565 01:09:28,731 --> 01:09:29,597 What we got from the port And 1566 01:09:29,597 --> 01:09:30,297 so we really want to make sure 1567 01:09:30,297 --> 01:09:34,497 that it's put to work and that 1568 01:09:35,102 --> 01:09:35,436 we use it to the best of its 1569 01:09:35,436 --> 01:09:36,204 ability. 1570 01:09:36,204 --> 01:09:39,804 So we are going to respond 1571 01:09:41,109 --> 01:09:41,409 before summertime and we don't 1572 01:09:41,409 --> 01:09:42,110 know. 1573 01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:46,310 This is the first time I ever 1574 01:09:47,820 --> 01:09:47,816 hear of this agency so maybe we 1575 01:09:47,816 --> 01:09:48,450 need to dissect this in another 1576 01:09:48,450 --> 01:09:52,500 committee to get to know a 1577 01:09:53,521 --> 01:09:54,155 little bit more about what are 1578 01:09:54,155 --> 01:09:54,722 the next steps after that? 1579 01:09:54,722 --> 01:09:57,625 How long does it take? 1580 01:09:57,625 --> 01:09:58,326 I don't think we're the first 1581 01:09:58,326 --> 01:09:58,960 mitigation bank in the nation. 1582 01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,560 We might be I don't know. 1583 01:10:04,650 --> 01:10:04,933 So just to get more information 1584 01:10:04,933 --> 01:10:05,600 on what the steps to hold us as 1585 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,600 legislators accountable and 1586 01:10:07,602 --> 01:10:08,303 also of you as our fearless 1587 01:10:08,303 --> 01:10:10,303 port commissioners accountable 1588 01:10:14,976 --> 01:10:15,577 as well. 1589 01:10:15,577 --> 01:10:16,110 That sounds great, 1590 01:10:16,110 --> 01:10:16,678 Councilmember. 1591 01:10:16,678 --> 01:10:19,980 I will say to you just very 1592 01:10:19,980 --> 01:10:20,682 quickly this council gave you 1593 01:10:20,682 --> 01:10:21,349 the honor of serving on our 1594 01:10:21,349 --> 01:10:22,117 Port Commission in FEBRUARY 1595 01:10:22,117 --> 01:10:25,717 2024 and I think it was in 1596 01:10:26,755 --> 01:10:27,455 MARCH of that year when I asked 1597 01:10:27,455 --> 01:10:28,156 for my first meeting about pon 1598 01:10:28,156 --> 01:10:31,156 20 because it seems such like 1599 01:10:31,827 --> 01:10:32,494 an opportunity for us. 1600 01:10:32,494 --> 01:10:33,161 I will also share that 1601 01:10:33,161 --> 01:10:35,561 Commissioner Dan Malcolm who 1602 01:10:37,232 --> 01:10:38,330 represents Imperial Beach he 1603 01:10:38,330 --> 01:10:42,233 and I have chatted about how he 1604 01:10:43,305 --> 01:10:44,500 actually was on the Imperial 1605 01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:47,605 Beach Council in the late 90s 1606 01:10:47,876 --> 01:10:48,710 when the agreement was made to 1607 01:10:48,710 --> 01:10:49,378 create pon 20 with a negotiated 1608 01:10:49,378 --> 01:10:50,110 agreement with environmental 1609 01:10:50,110 --> 01:10:52,411 justice community as well. 1610 01:10:54,182 --> 01:10:54,982 So we also have a strong 1611 01:10:54,982 --> 01:10:58,582 partner in our are our fellow 1612 01:11:01,289 --> 01:11:01,990 city national in Imperial Beach 1613 01:11:01,990 --> 01:11:02,624 for moving this forward So and 1614 01:11:02,624 --> 01:11:05,624 it's in Imperial Beach is 1615 01:11:06,995 --> 01:11:07,696 former redevelopment district 1616 01:11:07,696 --> 01:11:08,397 correct which is now confusing 1617 01:11:08,397 --> 01:11:09,970 because of the disillusion of 1618 01:11:09,970 --> 01:11:11,497 redevelopment But that's we're 1619 01:11:12,801 --> 01:11:13,202 not going to get into the weeds 1620 01:11:13,202 --> 01:11:14,136 of things. 1621 01:11:14,136 --> 01:11:14,903 I just want to make sure that 1622 01:11:14,903 --> 01:11:15,270 pon 20 comes to fruition in my 1623 01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:17,270 lifetime. 1624 01:11:18,307 --> 01:11:21,907 I'm 43 years old about to turn 1625 01:11:23,412 --> 01:11:24,790 44 so I will be pushing on that 1626 01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:24,746 front But thank you for that 1627 01:11:24,746 --> 01:11:27,746 and obviously more to come. 1628 01:11:29,584 --> 01:11:30,850 Also equally excited about 1629 01:11:30,850 --> 01:11:30,853 Harbor Drive 2.0. 1630 01:11:30,853 --> 01:11:31,520 It's a significant project that 1631 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,520 will contribute to the vast 1632 01:11:35,690 --> 01:11:36,391 industry sector and Oriel Logan 1633 01:11:36,391 --> 01:11:37,159 and also the port And not only 1634 01:11:37,159 --> 01:11:40,759 will it bring it bring better 1635 01:11:41,263 --> 01:11:41,763 and nicer infrastructure, it 1636 01:11:41,763 --> 01:11:42,397 will also mitigate 1637 01:11:42,397 --> 01:11:43,980 environmental impacts that 1638 01:11:43,980 --> 01:11:45,980 affect neighboring communities 1639 01:11:47,736 --> 01:11:48,504 of barrio Logan. 1640 01:11:48,504 --> 01:11:49,204 For decades the community of 1641 01:11:49,204 --> 01:11:52,204 Barrio Logan has suffered from 1642 01:11:53,108 --> 01:11:53,809 systemic disinvestment, limited 1643 01:11:53,809 --> 01:11:56,209 green space and environmental 1644 01:11:59,615 --> 01:11:59,949 burden burdens I should say 1645 01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:00,649 plural. 1646 01:12:00,649 --> 01:12:01,582 I know Joe has taken the lead 1647 01:12:01,582 --> 01:12:05,354 on this and I do think I'm for 1648 01:12:05,354 --> 01:12:06,880 it every time I ask for an 1649 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,688 update he's quick to respond on 1650 01:12:10,658 --> 01:12:11,427 what you guys if I MAY take 1651 01:12:11,427 --> 01:12:12,127 three more minutes of my my 1652 01:12:12,127 --> 01:12:15,127 time This is obviously a 1653 01:12:17,499 --> 01:12:18,267 priority for the port and it 1654 01:12:18,267 --> 01:12:21,770 took a while but I thank you 1655 01:12:21,770 --> 01:12:22,304 guys for making this one of 1656 01:12:22,304 --> 01:12:22,971 the lead priorities. 1657 01:12:22,971 --> 01:12:25,971 It is a significant project 1658 01:12:28,778 --> 01:12:29,478 within the port so thank you 1659 01:12:29,478 --> 01:12:30,179 for that Set up Travis Park 1660 01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:32,579 three acre Park on 1661 01:12:35,251 --> 01:12:35,851 the Waterfront in Barrio Logan 1662 01:12:35,851 --> 01:12:36,585 See Meaningful resources 1663 01:12:36,585 --> 01:12:39,585 directed into Cesar Chavez Park 1664 01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:41,457 is a major step in the right 1665 01:12:41,457 --> 01:12:42,124 direction and acknowledgment 1666 01:12:42,124 --> 01:12:44,524 that our communities deserve 1667 01:12:46,329 --> 01:12:46,963 the same level of care and 1668 01:12:46,963 --> 01:12:47,863 opportunity as any other. 1669 01:12:47,863 --> 01:12:52,630 I also I want to commend port 1670 01:12:52,300 --> 01:12:52,901 staff who work diligently to 1671 01:12:52,901 --> 01:12:53,236 advance this particular 1672 01:12:53,236 --> 01:12:55,236 project. 1673 01:12:58,107 --> 01:12:58,775 The community meetings 1674 01:12:58,775 --> 01:12:59,442 regarding Cesar Chavez Park 1675 01:12:59,442 --> 01:12:59,842 improvements have been just 1676 01:12:59,842 --> 01:13:01,842 astounding. 1677 01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:04,747 We give the community a 1678 01:13:04,747 --> 01:13:05,448 platform to voice their opinion 1679 01:13:05,448 --> 01:13:08,448 should they have one regarding 1680 01:13:10,386 --> 01:13:13,986 this this park that they have 1681 01:13:15,391 --> 01:13:16,250 and want to get a real 1682 01:13:16,250 --> 01:13:16,692 opportunity to share input 1683 01:13:16,692 --> 01:13:19,692 raised concerns And the last 1684 01:13:21,497 --> 01:13:22,165 part is really have them help 1685 01:13:22,165 --> 01:13:22,465 us shape the future of that 1686 01:13:22,465 --> 01:13:23,166 park. 1687 01:13:23,166 --> 01:13:26,166 I think this is what 1688 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:28,104 collaboration should look like 1689 01:13:28,104 --> 01:13:31,104 Agencies working hand in hand 1690 01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:32,742 with residents listening first 1691 01:13:32,742 --> 01:13:33,342 and making investments that 1692 01:13:33,342 --> 01:13:34,430 reflect the community's 1693 01:13:34,430 --> 01:13:37,643 priorities And I know none of 1694 01:13:38,481 --> 01:13:39,215 that could have been done 1695 01:13:39,215 --> 01:13:41,615 without your guys's leadership. 1696 01:13:44,453 --> 01:13:45,188 So it's an honor to have you 1697 01:13:45,188 --> 01:13:48,188 guys as our port commissioners. 1698 01:13:49,926 --> 01:13:50,527 You guys are very open, candid 1699 01:13:50,527 --> 01:13:51,227 and I think you have 1700 01:13:51,227 --> 01:13:53,627 the community's best interests 1701 01:13:55,798 --> 01:13:56,498 at heart and I appreciate that. 1702 01:13:56,498 --> 01:13:58,898 I appreciate that partnership 1703 01:14:03,139 --> 01:14:03,807 And so do we have is there a 1704 01:14:03,807 --> 01:14:04,339 motion on the floor to it's 1705 01:14:04,339 --> 01:14:04,641 informational item? 1706 01:14:04,641 --> 01:14:05,800 Okay. 1707 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:05,675 Wonderful. 1708 01:14:05,675 --> 01:14:08,110 We're happy to have you guys 1709 01:14:08,110 --> 01:14:08,478 when you guys come back before 1710 01:14:08,478 --> 01:14:10,478 DECEMBER I hope. 1711 01:14:15,180 --> 01:14:15,719 When do you want us back and do 1712 01:14:15,719 --> 01:14:16,553 they present is back next week 1713 01:14:16,553 --> 01:14:20,123 here but we can have to come 1714 01:14:20,123 --> 01:14:20,590 back maybe like a day after 1715 01:14:20,590 --> 01:14:21,910 spring is over. 1716 01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:23,491 No Thank you guys. 1717 01:14:26,162 --> 01:14:27,300 I appreciate it very much. 1718 01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:27,731 Counsel, if I MAY, in terms of 1719 01:14:27,731 --> 01:14:28,431 coming back, I think your idea 1720 01:14:28,431 --> 01:14:31,431 about a committee hearing with 1721 01:14:33,670 --> 01:14:34,271 respect to is is a great idea 1722 01:14:34,271 --> 01:14:34,904 and an appropriate thing 1723 01:14:34,904 --> 01:14:37,874 because it is a big deal. 1724 01:14:37,874 --> 01:14:38,608 It has taken forever. 1725 01:14:38,608 --> 01:14:39,175 Nobody's making any excuses And 1726 01:14:39,175 --> 01:14:39,609 you heard that list of 1727 01:14:39,609 --> 01:14:41,609 organizations. 1728 01:14:45,315 --> 01:14:46,160 It's a you know, no shade on 1729 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:46,483 the Army Corps of Engineers or 1730 01:14:46,483 --> 01:14:48,483 epa or coastal. 1731 01:14:49,719 --> 01:14:50,386 But it is it is quite a process 1732 01:14:50,386 --> 01:14:51,187 And Commissioner Moore and I 1733 01:14:51,187 --> 01:14:55,387 are all in for sure And it's 1734 01:14:55,792 --> 01:14:56,493 fair to say that Commissioner 1735 01:14:56,493 --> 01:14:57,194 Ferrara has been particularly 1736 01:14:57,194 --> 01:14:57,494 all in and leading the way on 1737 01:14:57,494 --> 01:14:59,494 this. 1738 01:15:01,832 --> 01:15:02,566 And so I think I think I think 1739 01:15:02,566 --> 01:15:06,166 he will be the spokesperson for 1740 01:15:08,538 --> 01:15:08,872 that for the committee meeting 1741 01:15:08,872 --> 01:15:09,339 . 1742 01:15:09,339 --> 01:15:10,273 >> Thank you. 1743 01:15:10,273 --> 01:15:10,907 So I see that as a going away 1744 01:15:10,907 --> 01:15:11,241 present for Councilmember 1745 01:15:11,241 --> 01:15:13,241 Moreno. 1746 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:14,678 I'll wrap it up by DECEMBER. 1747 01:15:14,678 --> 01:15:14,977 Thank you, Councilmember. 1748 01:15:14,977 --> 01:15:15,578 Right. 1749 01:15:15,578 --> 01:15:18,578 And we'll go next to 1750 01:15:19,449 --> 01:15:20,319 Councilmember Vaughn Wilbert 1751 01:15:20,319 --> 01:15:20,984 And thank you very much to our 1752 01:15:20,984 --> 01:15:21,551 three commissioners for your 1753 01:15:21,551 --> 01:15:23,951 excellent work and for 1754 01:15:24,688 --> 01:15:25,421 the presentation today you 1755 01:15:25,421 --> 01:15:26,123 represent the city of San Diego 1756 01:15:26,123 --> 01:15:26,857 very well and we're glad that 1757 01:15:26,857 --> 01:15:30,457 you're doing all that hard work 1758 01:15:30,995 --> 01:15:31,295 on top of your normal lives and 1759 01:15:31,295 --> 01:15:31,995 jobs. 1760 01:15:31,995 --> 01:15:32,662 And so please know that I know 1761 01:15:32,662 --> 01:15:33,363 how hard you work especially 1762 01:15:33,363 --> 01:15:36,600 since I sit on the airport or 1763 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:37,234 you hear all the time about how 1764 01:15:37,234 --> 01:15:37,935 hard everyone is working. 1765 01:15:37,935 --> 01:15:41,535 So I appreciate you very much 1766 01:15:41,738 --> 01:15:42,438 for your work and a huge kudos 1767 01:15:42,438 --> 01:15:45,438 to the successes on emissions 1768 01:15:47,845 --> 01:15:48,612 and sustainability. 1769 01:15:48,612 --> 01:15:49,313 I mean you really are industry 1770 01:15:49,313 --> 01:15:50,800 leaders in this and it's been 1771 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,680 incredible to watch And as you 1772 01:15:54,510 --> 01:15:54,752 know San Diego and we are all 1773 01:15:54,752 --> 01:15:55,452 beneficiaries of your work in 1774 01:15:55,452 --> 01:15:57,852 terms of cleaner environment, 1775 01:15:58,956 --> 01:15:59,723 clean air to breathe And so 1776 01:15:59,723 --> 01:16:00,391 just in cheaper cheaper energy 1777 01:16:00,391 --> 01:16:01,910 bills too, you know so it's 1778 01:16:01,910 --> 01:16:04,128 just really want to thank you 1779 01:16:04,128 --> 01:16:04,895 for all of that looking forward 1780 01:16:04,895 --> 01:16:05,162 to all the improvements coming 1781 01:16:05,162 --> 01:16:06,290 up. 1782 01:16:06,290 --> 01:16:09,629 I do have one question about 1783 01:16:10,934 --> 01:16:11,669 the convention center and I see 1784 01:16:11,669 --> 01:16:12,469 Joe and Scott are here too so 1785 01:16:12,469 --> 01:16:15,469 I'm excited to hear their 1786 01:16:16,607 --> 01:16:17,374 thoughts on this. 1787 01:16:17,374 --> 01:16:18,800 But I know that you know 1788 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:18,742 previously the Port of San 1789 01:16:18,742 --> 01:16:19,276 Diego and the city of San Diego 1790 01:16:19,276 --> 01:16:21,676 have worked in great 1791 01:16:22,379 --> 01:16:22,980 partnership to make sure 1792 01:16:22,980 --> 01:16:23,680 the convention center is 1793 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,800 maintained and the expansions 1794 01:16:27,284 --> 01:16:28,180 that we have been working on 1795 01:16:28,180 --> 01:16:28,619 Your 1996 the Port and the City 1796 01:16:28,619 --> 01:16:31,190 pointed to great powers 1797 01:16:32,355 --> 01:16:33,230 agreement issue $200 million in 1798 01:16:33,230 --> 01:16:33,724 lease revenue bonds to make 1799 01:16:33,724 --> 01:16:34,158 sure the convention center was 1800 01:16:34,158 --> 01:16:36,158 taken care of. 1801 01:16:37,728 --> 01:16:38,629 And I think we're at a point 1802 01:16:38,629 --> 01:16:39,296 now where we need to do a 1803 01:16:39,296 --> 01:16:39,931 similar long term bond again 1804 01:16:39,931 --> 01:16:40,564 for the convention center 1805 01:16:40,564 --> 01:16:43,564 because they are coming to 1806 01:16:43,701 --> 01:16:44,401 the city every budget year 1807 01:16:44,401 --> 01:16:45,135 saying you're $400 million in 1808 01:16:45,135 --> 01:16:48,135 back maintenance that they have 1809 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:49,140 to do just for the basics of 1810 01:16:49,140 --> 01:16:49,873 the convention center And it's 1811 01:16:49,873 --> 01:16:50,574 one of our big economic revenue 1812 01:16:50,574 --> 01:16:53,574 generators that we share with 1813 01:16:55,413 --> 01:16:56,113 the port And we have been shown 1814 01:16:56,113 --> 01:16:56,714 videos of, you know, folks who 1815 01:16:56,714 --> 01:16:59,714 have booked out room in 1816 01:16:59,816 --> 01:17:00,518 the convention center for 1817 01:17:00,518 --> 01:17:01,218 the convention halls in water 1818 01:17:01,218 --> 01:17:01,886 leaking through the roof onto 1819 01:17:01,886 --> 01:17:04,286 their conventions And nobody 1820 01:17:05,957 --> 01:17:06,590 needs that when we're competing 1821 01:17:06,590 --> 01:17:07,225 with you, Francisco we're 1822 01:17:07,225 --> 01:17:07,692 competing with, you know, 1823 01:17:07,692 --> 01:17:09,692 the other areas. 1824 01:17:12,290 --> 01:17:12,663 And so now that we have finally 1825 01:17:12,663 --> 01:17:13,364 secured the funding of you 1826 01:17:13,364 --> 01:17:16,434 better see to come to the city 1827 01:17:16,434 --> 01:17:17,368 of San Diego to increase to you 1828 01:17:17,368 --> 01:17:18,202 t tax we do have an opportunity 1829 01:17:18,202 --> 01:17:21,802 to leverage that funding and do 1830 01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:23,741 another series of at least back 1831 01:17:23,741 --> 01:17:24,509 revenue bonds or infrastructure 1832 01:17:24,509 --> 01:17:28,120 bonds but it would be really 1833 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:28,746 wonderful to have the ports 1834 01:17:28,746 --> 01:17:29,480 partnership in that as the city 1835 01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:33,800 had before because as you might 1836 01:17:33,317 --> 01:17:34,180 have seen the cities budget 1837 01:17:34,180 --> 01:17:34,719 deficit isn't the easiest hill 1838 01:17:34,719 --> 01:17:38,689 for us to tackle And so we MAY 1839 01:17:38,689 --> 01:17:39,457 need an additional predator 1840 01:17:39,457 --> 01:17:40,258 like the port to partner with 1841 01:17:40,258 --> 01:17:44,458 us on that but it's to our 1842 01:17:44,595 --> 01:17:45,363 joint benefit And so I'm just 1843 01:17:45,363 --> 01:17:46,630 I'm going to plug you know, 1844 01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:46,864 reprove it to him and say hey, 1845 01:17:46,864 --> 01:17:47,165 you guys need to get on this as 1846 01:17:47,165 --> 01:17:49,165 well. 1847 01:17:49,967 --> 01:17:50,535 But I'm just hoping the port 1848 01:17:50,535 --> 01:17:51,102 would be open to those 1849 01:17:51,102 --> 01:17:51,803 conversations because 1850 01:17:51,803 --> 01:17:54,839 the convention center is a gem 1851 01:17:54,839 --> 01:17:55,706 that we both share. 1852 01:17:55,706 --> 01:17:59,306 So let me just agree with 1853 01:17:59,978 --> 01:18:00,745 everything you said and begin 1854 01:18:00,745 --> 01:18:01,479 by thanking you and the rest of 1855 01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:04,479 the Council for your commitment 1856 01:18:05,483 --> 01:18:06,150 to the recent approval of 1857 01:18:06,150 --> 01:18:09,150 expenditure of some of that 1858 01:18:10,788 --> 01:18:11,422 measure c money for maintenance 1859 01:18:11,422 --> 01:18:12,156 and capital improvement at 1860 01:18:12,156 --> 01:18:15,756 the at the Convention Center As 1861 01:18:16,461 --> 01:18:17,228 you note it's absolutely 1862 01:18:17,228 --> 01:18:19,628 critical and an expansion 1863 01:18:22,133 --> 01:18:22,801 ultimately of could prove to be 1864 01:18:22,801 --> 01:18:23,601 important and a good thing. 1865 01:18:23,601 --> 01:18:27,405 But what has to happen is we 1866 01:18:27,405 --> 01:18:28,720 have to we have to not have 1867 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:28,739 that tired facility get get 1868 01:18:28,739 --> 01:18:32,339 more tired And so thank you 1869 01:18:32,710 --> 01:18:33,411 very much for for for this 1870 01:18:33,411 --> 01:18:34,112 council's commitment to that. 1871 01:18:34,112 --> 01:18:34,779 And in terms of your question 1872 01:18:34,779 --> 01:18:37,779 about going forward and our 1873 01:18:37,815 --> 01:18:38,449 interest in engaging with you 1874 01:18:38,449 --> 01:18:39,150 on that, the answer is of 1875 01:18:39,150 --> 01:18:39,517 course and we look forward to 1876 01:18:39,517 --> 01:18:41,517 doing it. 1877 01:18:43,655 --> 01:18:44,222 Okay. 1878 01:18:44,222 --> 01:18:44,889 Thank you very much. 1879 01:18:44,889 --> 01:18:45,457 People much smarter than me 1880 01:18:45,457 --> 01:18:45,857 will be leading those 1881 01:18:45,857 --> 01:18:46,524 discussions. 1882 01:18:46,524 --> 01:18:48,893 I just wanted to put it out 1883 01:18:48,893 --> 01:18:49,494 there that something I think 1884 01:18:49,494 --> 01:18:50,161 could benefit all of us 1885 01:18:50,161 --> 01:18:52,561 especially since we finally 1886 01:18:54,132 --> 01:18:54,566 secured the tax revenue on an 1887 01:18:54,566 --> 01:18:55,300 ongoing basis. 1888 01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:55,800 We might as well leverage that. 1889 01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,200 So but thank you. 1890 01:18:59,871 --> 01:19:00,538 I'm really excited to see all 1891 01:19:00,538 --> 01:19:01,206 the new projects coming up. 1892 01:19:01,206 --> 01:19:01,906 The Rady Shell is one of my 1893 01:19:01,906 --> 01:19:04,576 favorite projects the city in 1894 01:19:04,576 --> 01:19:05,277 the port and the whole reuse 1895 01:19:05,277 --> 01:19:05,576 done recently So huge kudos to 1896 01:19:05,576 --> 01:19:07,576 that. 1897 01:19:09,470 --> 01:19:09,748 Looking forward to Topgolf and 1898 01:19:09,748 --> 01:19:10,281 everything else So thank you 1899 01:19:10,281 --> 01:19:10,915 again for your work. 1900 01:19:10,915 --> 01:19:11,616 Thank you for representing 1901 01:19:11,616 --> 01:19:15,220 the city of San Diego so well 1902 01:19:15,220 --> 01:19:15,487 on our behalf and we appreciate 1903 01:19:15,487 --> 01:19:15,854 you. 1904 01:19:15,854 --> 01:19:16,221 Thank you. 1905 01:19:16,221 --> 01:19:16,588 All right. 1906 01:19:16,588 --> 01:19:17,122 Thank you. 1907 01:19:17,122 --> 01:19:19,522 Get some more Bombo. 1908 01:19:20,191 --> 01:19:20,525 We'll go next to Councilmember 1909 01:19:20,525 --> 01:19:21,193 Whitman. 1910 01:19:21,193 --> 01:19:21,893 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT 1911 01:19:21,893 --> 01:19:24,930 Thank you Vice chair is a cat 1912 01:19:24,930 --> 01:19:25,596 and commissioner of rock around 1913 01:19:25,596 --> 01:19:26,331 the commissioner more I was 1914 01:19:26,331 --> 01:19:29,331 quite an update I really 1915 01:19:30,869 --> 01:19:31,737 appreciate you taking the time 1916 01:19:31,737 --> 01:19:35,440 to come in and brief us on all 1917 01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:36,174 that is new and happening and 1918 01:19:36,174 --> 01:19:36,541 particularly within the city of 1919 01:19:36,541 --> 01:19:38,541 San Diego. 1920 01:19:40,645 --> 01:19:41,446 I think it's worth emphasizing 1921 01:19:41,446 --> 01:19:42,214 that the Port of San Diego is 1922 01:19:42,214 --> 01:19:45,214 its own agency, its own 1923 01:19:45,851 --> 01:19:46,484 jurisdiction But the activities 1924 01:19:46,484 --> 01:19:48,884 that you highlighted very 1925 01:19:51,523 --> 01:19:52,257 directly benefit City of San 1926 01:19:52,257 --> 01:19:52,758 Diego residents and people from 1927 01:19:52,758 --> 01:19:54,758 around the region. 1928 01:19:56,195 --> 01:19:56,895 But for our purposes San Diego 1929 01:19:56,895 --> 01:19:57,563 residents you are doing a lot 1930 01:19:57,563 --> 01:20:01,660 of good for the city And you 1931 01:20:01,660 --> 01:20:01,733 look just at some of the things 1932 01:20:01,733 --> 01:20:02,534 right here downtown Freedom 1933 01:20:02,534 --> 01:20:06,705 Park is going to be a beautiful 1934 01:20:06,705 --> 01:20:07,372 new park right along the bay 1935 01:20:07,372 --> 01:20:07,739 downtown you've got Seaport, 1936 01:20:07,739 --> 01:20:09,739 San Diego. 1937 01:20:11,643 --> 01:20:12,311 You were talking about 1938 01:20:12,311 --> 01:20:13,110 The environmental study are 1939 01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:16,110 underway and are underway and 1940 01:20:17,150 --> 01:20:17,782 concluding perhaps by the end 1941 01:20:17,782 --> 01:20:21,954 of the year that is going to be 1942 01:20:21,954 --> 01:20:22,621 just a wonderful addition an 1943 01:20:22,621 --> 01:20:23,255 economic driver to the city. 1944 01:20:23,255 --> 01:20:25,655 Thank goodness those Navy 1945 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:27,492 office buildings are being 1946 01:20:27,492 --> 01:20:28,193 redeveloped. 1947 01:20:28,193 --> 01:20:31,696 That'll be good to see like 1948 01:20:31,696 --> 01:20:32,164 Pacific Highway. 1949 01:20:32,164 --> 01:20:32,732 You betcha. 1950 01:20:32,732 --> 01:20:35,132 The Maritime Clean Air 1951 01:20:37,569 --> 01:20:38,237 Strategy, the electrification 1952 01:20:38,237 --> 01:20:41,237 of the cruise ship terminal 1953 01:20:42,875 --> 01:20:43,676 that benefits all of us here 1954 01:20:43,676 --> 01:20:44,276 that just the number of cruise 1955 01:20:44,276 --> 01:20:46,676 ship passengers that are 1956 01:20:47,279 --> 01:20:47,913 activating downtown that I just 1957 01:20:47,913 --> 01:20:50,313 very much appreciate what 1958 01:20:52,618 --> 01:20:53,285 the three of you are doing and 1959 01:20:53,285 --> 01:20:56,285 accomplishing as the city of 1960 01:20:57,489 --> 01:20:58,189 San Diego as representatives to 1961 01:20:58,189 --> 01:20:58,890 the Port commission And I want 1962 01:20:58,890 --> 01:21:01,890 to thank the staff leadership 1963 01:21:02,728 --> 01:21:03,262 that's here as well for all 1964 01:21:03,262 --> 01:21:03,696 that they're doing. 1965 01:21:03,696 --> 01:21:04,363 So thank you. 1966 01:21:04,363 --> 01:21:06,763 Thank you for all 1967 01:21:08,734 --> 01:21:09,301 the accomplishments and thank 1968 01:21:09,301 --> 01:21:09,667 you Council PRESIDENT. 1969 01:21:09,667 --> 01:21:10,336 All right. 1970 01:21:10,336 --> 01:21:12,872 Thank you council member for 1971 01:21:12,872 --> 01:21:13,272 not seeing anybody else in 1972 01:21:13,272 --> 01:21:13,839 the lights. 1973 01:21:13,839 --> 01:21:14,540 I'll join the chorus. 1974 01:21:14,540 --> 01:21:17,109 Thank you to commissioners for 1975 01:21:17,109 --> 01:21:17,943 taking the time. 1976 01:21:17,943 --> 01:21:18,577 You know council PRESIDENT I've 1977 01:21:18,577 --> 01:21:19,245 been reviewing our council 1978 01:21:19,245 --> 01:21:21,647 policies and how many boards 1979 01:21:21,647 --> 01:21:22,515 and commissions are supposed to 1980 01:21:22,515 --> 01:21:26,715 report back to the council on a 1981 01:21:27,787 --> 01:21:28,387 regular basis and you all are 1982 01:21:28,387 --> 01:21:29,550 one of the ones that 1983 01:21:29,550 --> 01:21:29,455 consistently come back year 1984 01:21:29,455 --> 01:21:30,122 after year. 1985 01:21:30,122 --> 01:21:32,224 And as Councilmember Moreno 1986 01:21:32,224 --> 01:21:32,959 said, the transparency in not 1987 01:21:32,959 --> 01:21:37,620 only the work that you do every 1988 01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:37,763 day as commissioners as along 1989 01:21:37,763 --> 01:21:38,464 with your regular lives there 1990 01:21:38,464 --> 01:21:41,464 is very much appreciated and 1991 01:21:42,701 --> 01:21:43,369 communicating that to 1992 01:21:43,369 --> 01:21:43,970 the Council and I'm sure to 1993 01:21:43,970 --> 01:21:44,704 the mayor's office that 1994 01:21:44,704 --> 01:21:47,406 the good work that you're doing 1995 01:21:47,406 --> 01:21:48,700 to make sure that we're all 1996 01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:51,700 think of can manage this 1997 01:21:51,978 --> 01:21:54,978 incredible resource that we all 1998 01:21:58,117 --> 01:21:59,850 get to enjoy the projects you 1999 01:21:59,850 --> 01:21:59,785 did I my wife and I had a 2000 01:21:59,785 --> 01:22:00,453 chance to stay at the gallery 2001 01:22:00,453 --> 01:22:01,870 when I was first open and we 2002 01:22:01,870 --> 01:22:02,788 went out, took a walk and 2003 01:22:02,788 --> 01:22:05,788 suddenly we saw this incredible 2004 01:22:07,193 --> 01:22:07,860 renovation and rebuilding of 2005 01:22:07,860 --> 01:22:08,494 the environment coastal sage 2006 01:22:08,494 --> 01:22:12,940 and all that was done to 2007 01:22:12,165 --> 01:22:12,865 the north There really pretty 2008 01:22:12,865 --> 01:22:13,466 spectacular in that commitment 2009 01:22:13,466 --> 01:22:16,466 And I think that really 2010 01:22:17,236 --> 01:22:17,870 highlights what the port is all 2011 01:22:17,870 --> 01:22:18,538 about the good work you do 2012 01:22:18,538 --> 01:22:21,538 every day maybe some people 2013 01:22:21,908 --> 01:22:22,708 will see it, maybe they won't 2014 01:22:22,708 --> 01:22:23,209 but it's the right thing to do 2015 01:22:23,209 --> 01:22:25,609 on on any basis. 2016 01:22:26,946 --> 01:22:27,713 So thank you for that. 2017 01:22:27,713 --> 01:22:28,481 You have an amazing staff that 2018 01:22:28,481 --> 01:22:31,818 gets that work done every day 2019 01:22:31,818 --> 01:22:32,485 and navigates all 2020 01:22:32,485 --> 01:22:35,485 the challenges that the Park 2021 01:22:36,556 --> 01:22:37,900 District faces and has 2022 01:22:37,900 --> 01:22:37,790 navigated us through 2023 01:22:37,790 --> 01:22:40,790 the economic downturn of covid 2024 01:22:41,361 --> 01:22:42,610 and kind of bounced back both 2025 01:22:42,610 --> 01:22:45,610 for the working waterfront but 2026 01:22:46,990 --> 01:22:46,766 also for the port tenants and 2027 01:22:46,766 --> 01:22:47,467 the contribution they make. 2028 01:22:47,467 --> 01:22:50,467 And I'm certainly an important 2029 01:22:51,371 --> 01:22:51,638 part of what the city relies 2030 01:22:51,638 --> 01:22:53,638 on. 2031 01:22:55,341 --> 01:22:56,420 So thank you for that Good work 2032 01:22:56,420 --> 01:22:58,420 and I'll highlight 2033 01:23:00,580 --> 01:23:01,381 the electrification component 2034 01:23:01,381 --> 01:23:04,981 and yeah that there's no free 2035 01:23:05,251 --> 01:23:06,190 lunch But you don't you don't 2036 01:23:06,190 --> 01:23:06,719 turn on a dime when you make 2037 01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:07,153 that environmental commitment. 2038 01:23:07,153 --> 01:23:09,153 It takes time. 2039 01:23:10,490 --> 01:23:13,792 It takes money to make those 2040 01:23:13,792 --> 01:23:15,792 conversions first Electric 2041 01:23:18,331 --> 01:23:18,999 Tugboat the largest and most 2042 01:23:18,999 --> 01:23:21,399 capable electric cranes on 2043 01:23:23,837 --> 01:23:24,604 the West Coast. 2044 01:23:24,604 --> 01:23:25,104 Those are big, big ideas and 2045 01:23:25,104 --> 01:23:25,705 that really shows 2046 01:23:25,705 --> 01:23:28,105 the leadership And then 2047 01:23:28,541 --> 01:23:29,209 the whole blue economy and 2048 01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:32,209 trying to really figure out 2049 01:23:33,130 --> 01:23:33,713 what else can this bay really 2050 01:23:33,713 --> 01:23:34,146 provide as a resources Rather 2051 01:23:34,146 --> 01:23:36,146 extraordinary. 2052 01:23:37,617 --> 01:23:38,351 So thank you for your 2053 01:23:38,351 --> 01:23:39,520 commitment and your willingness 2054 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,322 to continue to lead and I will 2055 01:23:42,322 --> 01:23:43,123 continue to be jealous about 2056 01:23:43,123 --> 01:23:46,723 how fast you can move compared 2057 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:48,695 to the city and without adding 2058 01:23:48,695 --> 01:23:49,296 excuses As commissioners you 2059 01:23:49,296 --> 01:23:52,296 kept said have you been 2060 01:23:52,632 --> 01:23:53,133 involved in the formation of 2061 01:23:53,133 --> 01:23:53,866 mitigation banks? 2062 01:23:53,866 --> 01:23:56,866 It's serious business and every 2063 01:23:57,103 --> 01:23:57,971 eye has to be dotted and every 2064 01:23:57,971 --> 01:23:58,572 t has to be crossed to make 2065 01:23:58,572 --> 01:24:01,274 sure that those who use 2066 01:24:01,274 --> 01:24:01,942 the mitigation being what it's 2067 01:24:01,942 --> 01:24:02,542 formed really uphold what 2068 01:24:02,542 --> 01:24:04,942 the original vision was. 2069 01:24:06,413 --> 01:24:07,140 So it takes too much time but I 2070 01:24:07,140 --> 01:24:10,140 know you'll get it done. 2071 01:24:10,484 --> 01:24:10,784 So thank you for that Good work 2072 01:24:10,784 --> 01:24:11,518 . 2073 01:24:11,518 --> 01:24:12,218 Thank you To call for my 2074 01:24:12,218 --> 01:24:12,920 colleagues to good work to do 2075 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,389 And again we'll just close by 2076 01:24:15,389 --> 01:24:16,890 saying thank you for taking 2077 01:24:16,890 --> 01:24:16,456 the time to come out this 2078 01:24:16,456 --> 01:24:18,456 afternoon. 2079 01:24:24,398 --> 01:24:24,865 >> Thank you. 2080 01:24:24,865 --> 01:24:26,865 All right. 2081 01:24:30,870 --> 01:24:31,605 So we're now we're going to be 2082 01:24:31,605 --> 01:24:32,439 talking about items two one and 2083 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,341 two two for those items There 2084 01:24:34,341 --> 01:24:35,420 will be a joint presentation 2085 01:24:35,420 --> 01:24:38,420 and combined public comment, a 2086 01:24:39,580 --> 01:24:43,180 separate vote will be taken for 2087 01:24:43,617 --> 01:24:44,318 item 2 or 2 and no motion will 2088 01:24:44,318 --> 01:24:44,952 be required for 2a1 which is 2089 01:24:44,952 --> 01:24:46,952 just strictly information. 2090 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,560 So with that clerk please 2091 01:24:52,292 --> 01:24:52,960 introduce items 201 and 202 2092 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:53,660 Thank you Council PRESIDENT 2093 01:24:53,660 --> 01:24:57,631 Item two one is the Dam Safety 2094 01:24:57,631 --> 01:24:57,931 Program Annual update 2024 to 2095 01:24:57,931 --> 01:24:59,931 2025. 2096 01:25:00,935 --> 01:25:01,835 This is an informational item 2097 01:25:01,835 --> 01:25:02,436 and item 2 or 2 is the award of 2098 01:25:02,436 --> 01:25:05,436 the as needed dam design 2099 01:25:06,106 --> 01:25:08,506 services agreements with hdr 2100 01:25:09,977 --> 01:25:10,544 Engineering Inc age 24 2630 2101 01:25:10,544 --> 01:25:12,944 47-m and Step Stantec 2102 01:25:15,483 --> 01:25:17,883 Consulting Services Inc age 24 2103 01:25:19,252 --> 01:25:19,853 2634 eight hyphen and six words 2104 01:25:19,853 --> 01:25:20,387 are required pursuant to 2105 01:25:20,387 --> 01:25:21,880 Charter section 99. 2106 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,825 If you'd like to speak on this 2107 01:25:24,825 --> 01:25:25,559 item now's the time to turn in 2108 01:25:25,559 --> 01:25:25,860 your speaker slip or raise your 2109 01:25:25,860 --> 01:25:26,527 hand. 2110 01:25:26,527 --> 01:25:26,894 Star nine I can't Thank you. 2111 01:25:26,894 --> 01:25:27,261 All right. 2112 01:25:27,261 --> 01:25:29,261 Thank you. 2113 01:25:29,663 --> 01:25:30,397 City Clerk With that staff 2114 01:25:30,397 --> 01:25:31,980 please introduce yourselves for 2115 01:25:31,980 --> 01:25:31,664 the record and let us know how 2116 01:25:31,664 --> 01:25:33,400 much time you need for 2117 01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:33,834 the present combined 2118 01:25:33,834 --> 01:25:35,834 presentation. 2119 01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:39,306 Lisa Sliwa came up Kelly Barlow 2120 01:25:39,306 --> 01:25:41,706 Deputy Director Tiffany Kirk 2121 01:25:43,177 --> 01:25:43,878 Assistant Deputy Director And 2122 01:25:43,878 --> 01:25:44,278 we'll need about 20 minutes. 2123 01:25:44,278 --> 01:25:44,846 All right. 2124 01:25:44,846 --> 01:25:46,846 When you're ready. 2125 01:25:47,947 --> 01:25:48,616 Good afternoon. 2126 01:25:48,616 --> 01:25:49,317 Council PRESIDENT LaCava and 2127 01:25:49,317 --> 01:25:52,317 City council members thank you 2128 01:25:52,553 --> 01:25:53,220 for the opportunity to provide 2129 01:25:53,220 --> 01:25:57,391 an update on the City of San 2130 01:25:57,391 --> 01:25:58,920 Diego's Dam safety program. 2131 01:25:58,920 --> 01:25:58,759 Today's presentation will walk 2132 01:25:58,759 --> 01:26:01,759 through the condition of our 2133 01:26:02,463 --> 01:26:03,130 dams and water tanks 2134 01:26:03,130 --> 01:26:03,864 The programmatic approach we 2135 01:26:03,864 --> 01:26:06,864 are using in close coordination 2136 01:26:07,635 --> 01:26:08,502 with our regulator the Division 2137 01:26:08,502 --> 01:26:12,506 of Safety of Dams as well as 2138 01:26:12,506 --> 01:26:13,173 the significant progress made 2139 01:26:13,173 --> 01:26:13,875 over the last over the past 2140 01:26:13,875 --> 01:26:16,875 year to address both immediate 2141 01:26:17,745 --> 01:26:18,246 safety needs and long term 2142 01:26:18,246 --> 01:26:20,246 system resilience. 2143 01:26:22,216 --> 01:26:22,817 As you will see dam safety is 2144 01:26:22,817 --> 01:26:23,184 not a single project or 2145 01:26:23,184 --> 01:26:25,184 timeline. 2146 01:26:26,954 --> 01:26:27,688 It is a sustained parallel 2147 01:26:27,688 --> 01:26:28,289 effort to protect public safety 2148 01:26:28,289 --> 01:26:30,689 Today while planning and 2149 01:26:32,126 --> 01:26:32,727 delivering the long term 2150 01:26:32,727 --> 01:26:33,361 investments required to 2151 01:26:33,361 --> 01:26:35,290 responsibly manage some of 2152 01:26:35,290 --> 01:26:37,429 the oldest infrastructure in 2153 01:26:40,234 --> 01:26:41,102 California. 2154 01:26:41,102 --> 01:26:44,102 >> Dams and water tanks are 2155 01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:46,730 essential infrastructure for 2156 01:26:46,730 --> 01:26:46,808 city water systems as they 2157 01:26:46,808 --> 01:26:49,808 store and deliver water to 2158 01:26:49,944 --> 01:26:50,612 treatment plants provide 2159 01:26:50,612 --> 01:26:52,612 emergency emergency reserves 2160 01:26:54,615 --> 01:26:55,160 during disasters and manage 2161 01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:55,683 flood risk. 2162 01:26:55,683 --> 01:26:58,830 The city's public utilities 2163 01:26:59,620 --> 01:27:00,221 departments dams Safety Program 2164 01:27:00,221 --> 01:27:02,621 oversees 11 dams and two 2165 01:27:04,759 --> 01:27:05,527 portable water tanks which all 2166 01:27:05,527 --> 01:27:08,527 thunder fall all fall under 2167 01:27:09,597 --> 01:27:10,298 the regulatory juristic ssion 2168 01:27:10,298 --> 01:27:10,965 of California Department of 2169 01:27:10,965 --> 01:27:13,365 Water Resources Division of 2170 01:27:14,969 --> 01:27:17,369 Safety of dams typically 2171 01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:19,541 referred to as dsd The public 2172 01:27:19,541 --> 01:27:20,241 Utilities Department 2173 01:27:20,241 --> 01:27:20,975 coordinates daily with the San 2174 01:27:20,975 --> 01:27:23,975 Diego Fire Department to ensure 2175 01:27:24,112 --> 01:27:24,712 our resources are available to 2176 01:27:24,712 --> 01:27:27,112 assist in their efforts 2177 01:27:28,583 --> 01:27:29,417 fighting fires. 2178 01:27:29,417 --> 01:27:30,118 >> To the right you will see 2179 01:27:30,118 --> 01:27:30,819 some of the different types of 2180 01:27:30,819 --> 01:27:33,219 water infrastructure the team 2181 01:27:33,655 --> 01:27:34,422 manages. 2182 01:27:34,422 --> 01:27:36,422 >> Dams are particularly 2183 01:27:38,393 --> 01:27:38,994 crucial as they act as barriers 2184 01:27:38,994 --> 01:27:40,994 creating reservoirs that 2185 01:27:43,131 --> 01:27:43,498 collect and store large volumes 2186 01:27:43,498 --> 01:27:44,165 of water. 2187 01:27:44,165 --> 01:27:46,565 Alongside dams, water tanks 2188 01:27:48,303 --> 01:27:48,970 play a vital role in our water 2189 01:27:48,970 --> 01:27:51,370 supply by providing storage 2190 01:27:52,374 --> 01:27:53,108 capacity, maintaining water 2191 01:27:53,108 --> 01:27:53,775 pressure throughout the network 2192 01:27:53,775 --> 01:27:56,775 and ensuring that treated of 2193 01:27:57,812 --> 01:27:58,446 drinking water remains readily 2194 01:27:58,446 --> 01:27:59,114 available for distribution 2195 01:27:59,114 --> 01:28:02,114 during peak You should usage 2196 01:28:03,285 --> 01:28:03,685 times or in emergency 2197 01:28:03,685 --> 01:28:05,685 situations. 2198 01:28:07,622 --> 01:28:08,323 Our reservoirs, dams and water 2199 01:28:08,323 --> 01:28:09,240 tanks are connected through a 2200 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:11,424 network of pipelines, channels 2201 01:28:12,894 --> 01:28:13,528 and pump stations which 2202 01:28:13,528 --> 01:28:14,129 facilitate the movement of 2203 01:28:14,129 --> 01:28:16,529 water to drinking water 2204 01:28:17,398 --> 01:28:18,330 treatment facilities and to 2205 01:28:18,330 --> 01:28:18,400 approximately 1.4 million 2206 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,400 customers. 2207 01:28:22,437 --> 01:28:23,305 The water from our reservoirs 2208 01:28:23,305 --> 01:28:26,905 on average makes up to 10 to 2209 01:28:27,175 --> 01:28:27,508 15% of the city's water supply 2210 01:28:27,508 --> 01:28:28,443 . 2211 01:28:28,443 --> 01:28:31,946 And we've been able to increase 2212 01:28:31,946 --> 01:28:32,581 that to 30% in recent years as 2213 01:28:32,581 --> 01:28:35,581 a result of receiving more 2214 01:28:36,618 --> 01:28:37,190 rainfall and maximize our 2215 01:28:37,190 --> 01:28:37,719 operations. 2216 01:28:37,719 --> 01:28:40,719 As a reminder, water collected 2217 01:28:41,656 --> 01:28:42,524 in our reservoir costs roughly 2218 01:28:42,524 --> 01:28:45,524 $400 per acre foot compared to 2219 01:28:46,595 --> 01:28:47,296 water purchased from our 2220 01:28:47,296 --> 01:28:50,296 wholesaler the San Diego Water 2221 01:28:50,499 --> 01:28:50,933 Authority that cost over $2,600 2222 01:28:50,933 --> 01:28:51,866 per acre foot. 2223 01:28:51,866 --> 01:28:55,170 With that I'll turn over to 2224 01:28:55,170 --> 01:28:55,737 Kelly. 2225 01:28:55,737 --> 01:28:57,737 Thank you, Lisa. 2226 01:28:59,508 --> 01:29:00,175 Dsd has mandated water level 2227 01:29:00,175 --> 01:29:00,908 height restrictions on five 2228 01:29:00,908 --> 01:29:03,908 reservoirs which will remain in 2229 01:29:04,279 --> 01:29:05,130 place until necessary repairs 2230 01:29:05,130 --> 01:29:05,681 and improvements are completed. 2231 01:29:05,681 --> 01:29:07,681 These reservoir restrictions 2232 01:29:09,717 --> 01:29:10,319 marked a fundamental shift for 2233 01:29:10,319 --> 01:29:11,530 our dam safety program. 2234 01:29:11,530 --> 01:29:14,289 Up until this point our program 2235 01:29:14,289 --> 01:29:14,857 was focused primarily on 2236 01:29:14,857 --> 01:29:15,257 routine operations and 2237 01:29:15,257 --> 01:29:15,858 maintenance. 2238 01:29:15,858 --> 01:29:18,258 In coordination with our 2239 01:29:19,628 --> 01:29:20,329 regulator, the Public Utilities 2240 01:29:20,329 --> 01:29:21,630 Department has been working to 2241 01:29:21,630 --> 01:29:24,630 implement and utilize a forward 2242 01:29:24,699 --> 01:29:25,660 looking program at dam safety 2243 01:29:25,660 --> 01:29:25,701 approach. 2244 01:29:25,701 --> 01:29:28,701 What this slide depicts is 2245 01:29:29,471 --> 01:29:30,139 the reality of our work today. 2246 01:29:30,139 --> 01:29:30,539 Dam safety is no longer 2247 01:29:30,539 --> 01:29:31,140 sequential. 2248 01:29:31,140 --> 01:29:33,540 It requires a proactive 2249 01:29:34,710 --> 01:29:35,311 sustained parallel effort where 2250 01:29:35,311 --> 01:29:35,978 continuous assessments, 2251 01:29:35,978 --> 01:29:37,978 inspections, maintenance and 2252 01:29:40,349 --> 01:29:40,983 repair projects are done while 2253 01:29:40,983 --> 01:29:43,383 we simultaneously plan and 2254 01:29:44,253 --> 01:29:44,887 develop a long term risk based 2255 01:29:44,887 --> 01:29:45,587 capital program that will 2256 01:29:45,587 --> 01:29:47,987 fundamentally reshape the dam 2257 01:29:49,625 --> 01:29:50,292 system through rehabilitation 2258 01:29:50,292 --> 01:29:52,692 and replacement and removal 2259 01:29:54,296 --> 01:29:55,164 over the coming decades. 2260 01:29:55,164 --> 01:29:55,797 Pd is continuing to implement a 2261 01:29:55,797 --> 01:29:57,797 nationally recognized dam 2262 01:29:58,767 --> 01:29:59,368 safety standard integrating 2263 01:29:59,368 --> 01:29:59,935 strategic planning with 2264 01:29:59,935 --> 01:30:00,568 comprehensive program 2265 01:30:00,568 --> 01:30:02,968 management to address both 2266 01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:04,407 safety and operational 2267 01:30:04,407 --> 01:30:05,141 challenges. 2268 01:30:05,141 --> 01:30:08,141 This slide shows the components 2269 01:30:08,511 --> 01:30:09,278 included in the comprehensive 2270 01:30:09,278 --> 01:30:11,678 Dam Safety Program which 2271 01:30:12,214 --> 01:30:12,915 include performing 2272 01:30:12,915 --> 01:30:13,616 approximately 400 maintenance 2273 01:30:13,616 --> 01:30:16,160 and inspection activities each 2274 01:30:16,552 --> 01:30:17,153 year, completing 159 condition 2275 01:30:17,153 --> 01:30:19,153 assessments to evaluate 2276 01:30:21,457 --> 01:30:22,158 facility conditions and 2277 01:30:22,158 --> 01:30:22,758 identify near-term interim and 2278 01:30:22,758 --> 01:30:23,125 long term risk reduction 2279 01:30:23,125 --> 01:30:25,125 measures. 2280 01:30:26,929 --> 01:30:27,630 Designing and construction 2281 01:30:27,630 --> 01:30:28,970 Constructing approximately 27 2282 01:30:28,970 --> 01:30:30,970 repair projects. 2283 01:30:31,634 --> 01:30:32,335 And we've identified at least 2284 01:30:32,335 --> 01:30:34,735 three long term improvements. 2285 01:30:35,905 --> 01:30:36,606 We currently estimate that 2286 01:30:36,606 --> 01:30:37,240 approximately $3 billion will 2287 01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:37,840 be needed over the coming 2288 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:40,240 decades to complete all 2289 01:30:40,643 --> 01:30:41,344 the improvements. 2290 01:30:41,344 --> 01:30:41,810 Building our internal team has 2291 01:30:41,810 --> 01:30:43,810 been a priority. 2292 01:30:45,982 --> 01:30:46,748 We established a dedicated team 2293 01:30:46,748 --> 01:30:49,748 in 2020 and now have 110 team 2294 01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:50,686 members across the city 2295 01:30:50,686 --> 01:30:51,387 focusing on projects that 2296 01:30:51,387 --> 01:30:53,387 address critical deficiencies 2297 01:30:54,657 --> 01:30:55,224 including seismic stability, 2298 01:30:55,224 --> 01:30:57,224 overtopping, concrete 2299 01:30:59,862 --> 01:31:00,630 deterioration and erosion. 2300 01:31:00,630 --> 01:31:01,364 In parallel our last year alone 2301 01:31:01,364 --> 01:31:03,599 pardon me the program oversight 2302 01:31:03,599 --> 01:31:04,267 team grew from 8 to 20 full 2303 01:31:04,267 --> 01:31:04,801 time staff with expertise in 2304 01:31:04,801 --> 01:31:06,801 both engineering and 2305 01:31:08,271 --> 01:31:09,238 environmental. 2306 01:31:09,238 --> 01:31:11,638 >> Our our operations expanded 2307 01:31:12,642 --> 01:31:13,242 from 4 to 6 dedicated crews and 2308 01:31:13,242 --> 01:31:14,100 we doubled our equipment 2309 01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:16,879 resources to be able to deliver 2310 01:31:16,879 --> 01:31:17,480 more work in-house. 2311 01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:19,880 In parallel, the program 2312 01:31:21,417 --> 01:31:22,510 prioritizes ongoing dam safety 2313 01:31:22,510 --> 01:31:22,418 training to build internal 2314 01:31:22,418 --> 01:31:24,418 knowledge. 2315 01:31:26,890 --> 01:31:26,756 But in addition to these 2316 01:31:26,756 --> 01:31:29,156 internal resources, the dam 2317 01:31:29,591 --> 01:31:30,193 safety program also requires 2318 01:31:30,193 --> 01:31:30,927 specialized third party 2319 01:31:30,927 --> 01:31:33,927 expertise due to the complexity 2320 01:31:34,297 --> 01:31:34,864 and long term nature of 2321 01:31:34,864 --> 01:31:35,432 the projects involved. 2322 01:31:35,432 --> 01:31:37,832 All of these resource 2323 01:31:39,169 --> 01:31:39,936 resourcing efforts combined 2324 01:31:39,936 --> 01:31:40,669 enable us to meet increasingly 2325 01:31:40,669 --> 01:31:43,669 complex and evolving dam safety 2326 01:31:43,976 --> 01:31:44,707 requirements. 2327 01:31:44,707 --> 01:31:47,107 Without proper resourcing Puti 2328 01:31:48,678 --> 01:31:49,312 would not be in a position to 2329 01:31:49,312 --> 01:31:50,450 proactively manage risk as 2330 01:31:50,450 --> 01:31:53,450 opposed to reacting to findings 2331 01:31:53,183 --> 01:31:53,883 from our regulator. 2332 01:31:53,883 --> 01:31:56,283 Understanding the condition of 2333 01:31:58,521 --> 01:31:59,155 our dams and water tanks is 2334 01:31:59,155 --> 01:31:59,856 critical to informing risk 2335 01:31:59,856 --> 01:32:02,256 based decisions on maintenance 2336 01:32:02,726 --> 01:32:03,292 repair and long term 2337 01:32:03,292 --> 01:32:03,927 investments to protect 2338 01:32:03,927 --> 01:32:04,361 downstream communities and 2339 01:32:04,361 --> 01:32:06,361 water supply. 2340 01:32:07,830 --> 01:32:08,431 We are making significant 2341 01:32:08,431 --> 01:32:09,980 progress and completing 2342 01:32:09,980 --> 01:32:11,498 assessments for our highest 2343 01:32:12,135 --> 01:32:12,435 risk and poorest condition dams 2344 01:32:12,435 --> 01:32:13,269 . 2345 01:32:13,269 --> 01:32:16,269 To date we have completed 60 2346 01:32:17,730 --> 01:32:17,707 condition assessments with an 2347 01:32:17,707 --> 01:32:18,341 additional 13 currently in 2348 01:32:18,341 --> 01:32:20,741 progress and the remaining 2349 01:32:21,278 --> 01:32:21,711 assessments plan through 2350 01:32:21,711 --> 01:32:22,412 the year 2032. 2351 01:32:22,412 --> 01:32:22,946 >> Shown here are pictures of 2352 01:32:22,946 --> 01:32:24,946 helicopter supported 2353 01:32:26,449 --> 01:32:27,149 geotechnical drilling and 2354 01:32:27,149 --> 01:32:27,851 investigations completed last 2355 01:32:27,851 --> 01:32:31,254 year at Lower Otay and Barrett 2356 01:32:31,254 --> 01:32:31,987 Dam. 2357 01:32:31,987 --> 01:32:32,589 Helicopter access is required 2358 01:32:32,589 --> 01:32:35,589 due to the steep terrain 2359 01:32:35,926 --> 01:32:36,526 limited access and sensitive 2360 01:32:36,526 --> 01:32:37,194 environmental resources. 2361 01:32:37,194 --> 01:32:39,194 These investigations provide 2362 01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:41,697 critical information on 2363 01:32:41,697 --> 01:32:42,265 foundation conditions, help 2364 01:32:42,265 --> 01:32:44,265 confirm future design 2365 01:32:45,502 --> 01:32:46,235 assumptions and support 2366 01:32:46,235 --> 01:32:46,803 evaluations of whether the dams 2367 01:32:46,803 --> 01:32:49,203 can meet modern safety 2368 01:32:50,407 --> 01:32:51,141 standards. 2369 01:32:51,141 --> 01:32:54,141 >> While we continue to advance 2370 01:32:55,111 --> 01:32:55,712 long term planning, near-term 2371 01:32:55,712 --> 01:32:56,246 repairs and maintenance 2372 01:32:56,246 --> 01:32:58,246 projects are needed. 2373 01:32:59,783 --> 01:33:00,484 Over the past year we've 2374 01:33:00,484 --> 01:33:01,150 completed numerous repairs to 2375 01:33:01,150 --> 01:33:03,150 address known deficiencies. 2376 01:33:04,488 --> 01:33:05,210 These included clearing 2377 01:33:05,210 --> 01:33:05,722 the lower portion of 2378 01:33:05,722 --> 01:33:08,992 the spillway at El Capitan Dam 2379 01:33:08,992 --> 01:33:09,660 to restore hydraulic capacity. 2380 01:33:09,660 --> 01:33:10,360 Completing vault and valve 2381 01:33:10,360 --> 01:33:13,360 improvements at Miramar Dam to 2382 01:33:14,865 --> 01:33:15,599 improve reservoir operability. 2383 01:33:15,599 --> 01:33:16,300 Repairing handrails at Barrett 2384 01:33:16,300 --> 01:33:19,636 and Lower Otay Dams to support 2385 01:33:19,636 --> 01:33:20,360 crew access for inspections and 2386 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:20,637 maintenance. 2387 01:33:20,637 --> 01:33:22,637 Looking ahead, 14 repair 2388 01:33:24,341 --> 01:33:25,800 projects are currently in 2389 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:27,408 design to upgrade monitoring 2390 01:33:29,790 --> 01:33:29,813 systems repair concrete improve 2391 01:33:29,813 --> 01:33:32,213 outlet works, remove vegetation 2392 01:33:33,750 --> 01:33:34,385 and strengthen security for 2393 01:33:34,385 --> 01:33:35,180 additional projects are in 2394 01:33:35,180 --> 01:33:35,652 planning to address intake 2395 01:33:35,652 --> 01:33:37,652 restorations and emergency 2396 01:33:38,922 --> 01:33:39,523 drawdown requirements. 2397 01:33:39,523 --> 01:33:40,123 And construction on five 2398 01:33:40,123 --> 01:33:42,523 projects will begin this 2399 01:33:43,327 --> 01:33:43,994 upcoming calendar year. 2400 01:33:43,994 --> 01:33:45,994 Additionally, our operations 2401 01:33:48,432 --> 01:33:49,990 team actively manages Reservoir 2402 01:33:49,990 --> 01:33:49,766 levels to stay below desired 2403 01:33:49,766 --> 01:33:50,334 mandated thresholds and has 2404 01:33:50,334 --> 01:33:52,334 made important system 2405 01:33:53,704 --> 01:33:54,438 improvements including faster 2406 01:33:54,438 --> 01:33:57,438 reporting of field issues, real 2407 01:33:58,542 --> 01:33:59,276 time monitoring of raw water 2408 01:33:59,276 --> 01:33:59,977 reservoirs through the one rain 2409 01:33:59,977 --> 01:34:03,314 system and the first ever use 2410 01:34:03,314 --> 01:34:04,114 of high resolution lighter at 2411 01:34:04,114 --> 01:34:04,815 El Capitan and Marina Dams to 2412 01:34:04,815 --> 01:34:07,215 support ongoing monitoring and 2413 01:34:08,190 --> 01:34:09,530 movement of surface changes. 2414 01:34:09,530 --> 01:34:12,653 >> As always we are working to 2415 01:34:13,224 --> 01:34:13,891 balance critical infrastructure 2416 01:34:13,891 --> 01:34:14,358 needs with affordability for 2417 01:34:14,358 --> 01:34:16,358 our ratepayers. 2418 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:18,662 Program funding comes from 2419 01:34:18,662 --> 01:34:19,363 the Water Utility Capital 2420 01:34:19,363 --> 01:34:21,763 Improvement Program and water 2421 01:34:22,233 --> 01:34:23,350 operating funds And as future 2422 01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:23,701 costs are refined they will be 2423 01:34:23,701 --> 01:34:24,368 reflected in party's annual 2424 01:34:24,368 --> 01:34:26,768 five year financial outlook 2425 01:34:27,204 --> 01:34:27,772 which informs the city's water 2426 01:34:27,772 --> 01:34:29,772 rate setting process. 2427 01:34:32,109 --> 01:34:32,709 We continue to proactively 2428 01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:33,411 pursue state and federal 2429 01:34:33,411 --> 01:34:35,811 funding opportunities to help 2430 01:34:37,140 --> 01:34:37,882 reduce costs for ratepayers. 2431 01:34:37,882 --> 01:34:38,549 To date $1.7 million in state 2432 01:34:38,549 --> 01:34:41,549 and federal funding has been 2433 01:34:41,952 --> 01:34:42,620 secured for ongoing initiatives 2434 01:34:42,620 --> 01:34:43,254 including seismic stability 2435 01:34:43,254 --> 01:34:45,254 analysis and geotechnical 2436 01:34:47,570 --> 01:34:47,691 investigations at El Capitan, 2437 01:34:47,691 --> 01:34:48,325 Berrett and Hodges Dams as 2438 01:34:48,325 --> 01:34:51,620 shown on the pictures to 2439 01:34:51,620 --> 01:34:51,828 the right. 2440 01:34:51,828 --> 01:34:54,828 >> In total the city has 2441 01:34:55,310 --> 01:34:55,832 applied for approximately $322 2442 01:34:55,832 --> 01:34:58,232 million in external funding 2443 01:34:59,236 --> 01:34:59,837 including $77 million in grant 2444 01:34:59,837 --> 01:35:00,404 funding and selection by 2445 01:35:00,404 --> 01:35:01,380 the U.S. Army Corps of 2446 01:35:01,380 --> 01:35:04,380 Engineers to submit a full 2447 01:35:04,341 --> 01:35:05,900 application for $241 million 2448 01:35:05,900 --> 01:35:08,900 and low cost loan financing. 2449 01:35:08,446 --> 01:35:10,846 Financing for dam improvement 2450 01:35:13,584 --> 01:35:13,922 projects through the year 2031 2451 01:35:13,922 --> 01:35:14,685 . 2452 01:35:14,685 --> 01:35:17,685 >> This slide shows a strategic 2453 01:35:18,256 --> 01:35:18,856 phasing plan to address dam 2454 01:35:18,856 --> 01:35:19,589 safety across all 13 dso 2455 01:35:19,589 --> 01:35:21,989 deregulated facilities based on 2456 01:35:23,528 --> 01:35:24,295 available financing. 2457 01:35:24,295 --> 01:35:25,162 At the top of the timeline. 2458 01:35:25,162 --> 01:35:28,666 Each facility is shown with its 2459 01:35:28,666 --> 01:35:29,533 dso condition rating. 2460 01:35:29,533 --> 01:35:30,201 In the year we plan to complete 2461 01:35:30,201 --> 01:35:32,601 long term improvement plans. 2462 01:35:34,500 --> 01:35:36,908 Dams in fair or unsatisfactory 2463 01:35:36,908 --> 01:35:37,542 condition are addressed first 2464 01:35:37,542 --> 01:35:38,276 followed by facilities in 2465 01:35:38,276 --> 01:35:38,576 satisfactory condition in later 2466 01:35:38,576 --> 01:35:40,576 years. 2467 01:35:42,380 --> 01:35:42,981 In addition to facility 2468 01:35:42,981 --> 01:35:43,615 condition, the timing of 2469 01:35:43,615 --> 01:35:46,150 the long term improvement 2470 01:35:46,484 --> 01:35:47,151 planning considers factors such 2471 01:35:47,151 --> 01:35:47,785 as downstream risk required 2472 01:35:47,785 --> 01:35:49,785 water level restrictions. 2473 01:35:51,756 --> 01:35:52,423 The role of each reservoir in 2474 01:35:52,423 --> 01:35:53,910 the water supply system and 2475 01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:53,625 coordination with the city's 2476 01:35:53,625 --> 01:35:55,625 pure water program. 2477 01:35:56,561 --> 01:35:57,262 At the bottom of this timeline 2478 01:35:57,262 --> 01:35:57,828 are the program level efforts 2479 01:35:57,828 --> 01:36:00,228 that guide system wide 2480 01:36:01,660 --> 01:36:01,799 decisions. 2481 01:36:01,799 --> 01:36:02,467 This work begins with updating 2482 01:36:02,467 --> 01:36:05,467 the water model to identify 2483 01:36:05,537 --> 01:36:06,237 the most critical reservoirs 2484 01:36:06,237 --> 01:36:06,905 for long term water supply. 2485 01:36:06,905 --> 01:36:09,305 >> Supporting is goal of 2486 01:36:09,674 --> 01:36:12,674 increasing local water use to 2487 01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:15,413 60% by the year 2040. 2488 01:36:15,413 --> 01:36:18,413 >> In 2028 we plan to complete 2489 01:36:18,449 --> 01:36:19,317 a program plan to help manage 2490 01:36:19,317 --> 01:36:20,180 risk and in 2032 we will have 2491 01:36:20,180 --> 01:36:23,154 the data and plans in place to 2492 01:36:23,154 --> 01:36:23,855 develop a strategic capital 2493 01:36:23,855 --> 01:36:24,422 improvement phasing plan that 2494 01:36:24,422 --> 01:36:26,422 sequences work across 2495 01:36:28,192 --> 01:36:28,960 the system for decades to come. 2496 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:29,661 This information together with 2497 01:36:29,661 --> 01:36:32,610 condition assessments and long 2498 01:36:32,864 --> 01:36:33,531 term improvement plans will 2499 01:36:33,531 --> 01:36:34,266 give us a comprehensive and 2500 01:36:34,266 --> 01:36:36,666 holistic understanding of which 2501 01:36:37,402 --> 01:36:38,202 reservoirs are most critical. 2502 01:36:38,202 --> 01:36:38,737 Where long term infrastructure 2503 01:36:38,737 --> 01:36:39,437 investments provide 2504 01:36:39,437 --> 01:36:42,437 the greatest value allowing us 2505 01:36:42,541 --> 01:36:43,241 to strategically strategically 2506 01:36:43,241 --> 01:36:45,641 phase dam safety improvements 2507 01:36:46,878 --> 01:36:47,612 over time. 2508 01:36:47,612 --> 01:36:48,312 >> This planning is happening 2509 01:36:48,312 --> 01:36:50,615 alongside active projects with 2510 01:36:50,615 --> 01:36:51,383 repairs moving forward to keep 2511 01:36:51,383 --> 01:36:52,170 our dams safe and operational. 2512 01:36:52,170 --> 01:36:54,417 While long term strategic 2513 01:36:55,687 --> 01:36:56,655 planning efforts are underway 2514 01:36:56,655 --> 01:37:00,855 so we know we cannot replace or 2515 01:37:01,293 --> 01:37:01,860 upgrade all of our high risk 2516 01:37:01,860 --> 01:37:02,527 dams at the same time. 2517 01:37:02,527 --> 01:37:04,927 These projects are large 2518 01:37:06,430 --> 01:37:07,980 complex taking many years to 2519 01:37:07,980 --> 01:37:10,980 plan, fund design and build. 2520 01:37:11,536 --> 01:37:12,237 >> Because of this we're using 2521 01:37:12,237 --> 01:37:15,237 a phased risk based approach. 2522 01:37:16,341 --> 01:37:17,420 >> Long term improvements are 2523 01:37:17,420 --> 01:37:17,743 prioritized and sequenced over 2524 01:37:17,743 --> 01:37:20,743 time while interim repairs are 2525 01:37:20,946 --> 01:37:21,546 done to manage safety until 2526 01:37:21,546 --> 01:37:23,546 permanent solutions are 2527 01:37:25,416 --> 01:37:26,180 delivered. 2528 01:37:26,180 --> 01:37:26,652 >> City Council's prior 2529 01:37:26,652 --> 01:37:29,652 approval of our as needed 2530 01:37:30,255 --> 01:37:30,923 Program Management agreement 2531 01:37:30,923 --> 01:37:31,623 allows us to assess dam 2532 01:37:31,623 --> 01:37:34,230 conditions, set priorities and 2533 01:37:35,494 --> 01:37:36,195 plan this work in phases as 2534 01:37:36,195 --> 01:37:36,561 shown on the left side of 2535 01:37:36,561 --> 01:37:37,296 the slide. 2536 01:37:37,296 --> 01:37:39,696 However that agreement supports 2537 01:37:41,266 --> 01:37:41,800 planning and assessments only. 2538 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:42,434 It does not include 2539 01:37:42,434 --> 01:37:44,434 the designer construction 2540 01:37:44,803 --> 01:37:45,437 oversight services needed to 2541 01:37:45,437 --> 01:37:46,238 implement repair projects. 2542 01:37:46,238 --> 01:37:49,838 The next step is securing new 2543 01:37:50,442 --> 01:37:50,843 as needed dam design service 2544 01:37:50,843 --> 01:37:51,577 agreements. 2545 01:37:51,577 --> 01:37:54,577 So priority dam safety projects 2546 01:37:55,313 --> 01:37:55,981 can move forward from planning 2547 01:37:55,981 --> 01:37:58,381 into design and construction 2548 01:37:59,584 --> 01:38:00,285 helping to avoid emergency 2549 01:38:00,285 --> 01:38:00,952 driven actions and to ensure 2550 01:38:00,952 --> 01:38:02,952 steady responsible progress. 2551 01:38:05,324 --> 01:38:06,580 Without these design service 2552 01:38:06,580 --> 01:38:06,759 contracts we would be unable to 2553 01:38:06,759 --> 01:38:09,159 move forward immediately with 2554 01:38:10,362 --> 01:38:10,729 critical dam safety repair 2555 01:38:10,729 --> 01:38:12,729 projects. 2556 01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:15,634 Shown on this slide are some 2557 01:38:15,634 --> 01:38:16,335 examples of upcoming dam safety 2558 01:38:16,335 --> 01:38:18,735 projects at Murray Sutherland 2559 01:38:18,937 --> 01:38:19,571 and Lower Otay Dams that 2560 01:38:19,571 --> 01:38:21,971 require design work before 2561 01:38:23,775 --> 01:38:24,509 the projects can move forward. 2562 01:38:24,509 --> 01:38:25,110 >> While long term improvements 2563 01:38:25,110 --> 01:38:27,510 are being implemented, a 2564 01:38:29,215 --> 01:38:29,915 process that can take decades. 2565 01:38:29,915 --> 01:38:32,915 Interim projects are needed to 2566 01:38:33,850 --> 01:38:33,652 manage risks and maintain 2567 01:38:33,652 --> 01:38:34,320 regulatory compliance. 2568 01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:36,720 Examples of projects include 2569 01:38:38,590 --> 01:38:39,358 seismic upgrades to Murray 2570 01:38:39,358 --> 01:38:42,358 Outlet Tower and Dam structure 2571 01:38:43,162 --> 01:38:43,763 intake and outlet improvements 2572 01:38:43,763 --> 01:38:45,763 at Sutherland Reservoir. 2573 01:38:48,367 --> 01:38:49,680 Concrete repairs at lower Otay 2574 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:49,769 to main structural to maintain 2575 01:38:49,769 --> 01:38:52,169 structural integrity and safe 2576 01:38:52,905 --> 01:38:53,572 access all of these projects. 2577 01:38:53,572 --> 01:38:55,972 >> These projects range from 2578 01:38:57,609 --> 01:38:58,276 smaller but critical repairs 2579 01:38:58,276 --> 01:38:59,110 around $80 million to major 2580 01:38:59,110 --> 01:39:01,110 rehabilitation projects costing 2581 01:39:03,820 --> 01:39:03,849 upwards of 40 to $80 million. 2582 01:39:03,849 --> 01:39:06,249 From initial studies through 2583 01:39:07,453 --> 01:39:08,120 design, environmental review 2584 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,120 permitting and construction 2585 01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:12,158 individual dam safety projects 2586 01:39:12,158 --> 01:39:15,758 can take 7 to 10 years or more 2587 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:16,728 to deliver. 2588 01:39:16,728 --> 01:39:17,396 That brings us to the action 2589 01:39:17,396 --> 01:39:17,697 item for your consideration 2590 01:39:17,697 --> 01:39:19,697 today. 2591 01:39:21,834 --> 01:39:22,468 Pd is proposing 210 year as 2592 01:39:22,468 --> 01:39:22,835 needed dam design services 2593 01:39:22,835 --> 01:39:24,835 contracts. 2594 01:39:26,906 --> 01:39:27,306 Each in an amount not to exceed 2595 01:39:27,306 --> 01:39:28,400 $75 million. 2596 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,400 It's important to note this 2597 01:39:31,377 --> 01:39:32,450 work was included in the water 2598 01:39:32,450 --> 01:39:34,445 rates Council approved last 2599 01:39:36,150 --> 01:39:36,649 year is in this budget as well 2600 01:39:36,649 --> 01:39:37,550 as our five year outlook. 2601 01:39:37,550 --> 01:39:40,753 Council will hear an annual dam 2602 01:39:40,753 --> 01:39:41,454 safety update and have an 2603 01:39:41,454 --> 01:39:42,154 opportunity during each budget 2604 01:39:42,154 --> 01:39:45,154 and five year outlook process 2605 01:39:45,925 --> 01:39:46,492 as well as any future rate case 2606 01:39:46,492 --> 01:39:47,226 to receive additional 2607 01:39:47,226 --> 01:39:50,226 information on this program and 2608 01:39:50,496 --> 01:39:51,196 its associated spending. 2609 01:39:51,196 --> 01:39:54,196 Highly skilled experts in dam 2610 01:39:55,434 --> 01:39:56,102 design and engineering, 2611 01:39:56,102 --> 01:39:56,736 environmental compliance and 2612 01:39:56,736 --> 01:39:57,437 construction support will 2613 01:39:57,437 --> 01:39:59,837 complement the strong internal 2614 01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:00,940 team we have built. 2615 01:40:00,940 --> 01:40:01,541 The proposed contract duration 2616 01:40:01,541 --> 01:40:04,541 and amount are based on 2617 01:40:04,710 --> 01:40:05,378 detailed engineering estimates 2618 01:40:05,378 --> 01:40:06,790 and historical data aligning 2619 01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:09,790 with the extensive time frame 2620 01:40:09,416 --> 01:40:10,216 needed for specialized dam 2621 01:40:10,216 --> 01:40:12,216 repair and rehabilitation 2622 01:40:14,854 --> 01:40:15,455 projects long term as needed 2623 01:40:15,455 --> 01:40:17,455 Design agreements ensure 2624 01:40:19,492 --> 01:40:20,159 continuity of expertise, 2625 01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:20,827 regulatory coordination and 2626 01:40:20,827 --> 01:40:23,227 timely delivery of required 2627 01:40:24,970 --> 01:40:24,864 critical dam safety work. 2628 01:40:24,864 --> 01:40:27,264 >> The rfp selection process 2629 01:40:28,468 --> 01:40:29,135 began in 2020 for two firms hdr 2630 01:40:29,135 --> 01:40:32,135 and stantec were selected as 2631 01:40:32,272 --> 01:40:32,905 the preferred providers 2632 01:40:32,905 --> 01:40:33,373 following a qualifications 2633 01:40:33,373 --> 01:40:34,140 based selection. 2634 01:40:34,140 --> 01:40:37,544 Both firms would work on a 2635 01:40:37,544 --> 01:40:38,111 rotating basis task order basis 2636 01:40:38,111 --> 01:40:38,845 ensuring fairness and 2637 01:40:38,845 --> 01:40:41,845 consistent access to dam design 2638 01:40:42,615 --> 01:40:43,283 expertise. 2639 01:40:43,283 --> 01:40:43,949 Listed on this slide are 2640 01:40:43,949 --> 01:40:46,349 the services the agreements 2641 01:40:47,587 --> 01:40:48,255 will provide including dam 2642 01:40:48,255 --> 01:40:48,822 engineering analysis, design 2643 01:40:48,822 --> 01:40:50,822 development permit and 2644 01:40:52,459 --> 01:40:53,930 regulatory coordination, 2645 01:40:53,930 --> 01:40:53,793 environmental planning and 2646 01:40:53,793 --> 01:40:55,793 construction phase engineering 2647 01:40:57,429 --> 01:40:58,131 support. 2648 01:40:58,131 --> 01:40:58,698 The consultants will support 2649 01:40:58,698 --> 01:40:59,265 the study delivery of 2650 01:40:59,265 --> 01:41:01,265 maintenance repair and 2651 01:41:02,602 --> 01:41:03,303 rehabilitation projects for 2652 01:41:03,303 --> 01:41:05,703 spillways outlets and dam 2653 01:41:07,374 --> 01:41:08,108 structures. 2654 01:41:08,108 --> 01:41:11,108 Pd is requesting your approval 2655 01:41:11,611 --> 01:41:12,345 of 210 year as needed dam 2656 01:41:12,345 --> 01:41:12,979 design services agreements with 2657 01:41:12,979 --> 01:41:16,579 hdr and Stantec each in an 2658 01:41:17,500 --> 01:41:17,617 amount not to exceed $75 2659 01:41:17,617 --> 01:41:18,251 million funded through 2660 01:41:18,251 --> 01:41:21,251 the water utilities ip and 2661 01:41:22,222 --> 01:41:22,823 operating fund and included 2662 01:41:22,823 --> 01:41:25,223 within both the recently 2663 01:41:25,659 --> 01:41:26,393 approved water rates and 2664 01:41:26,393 --> 01:41:27,127 periods five five year outlook. 2665 01:41:27,127 --> 01:41:29,763 Each agreement would carry a 2666 01:41:29,763 --> 01:41:30,530 minimum spend of $1,000. 2667 01:41:30,530 --> 01:41:32,930 These agreements are essential 2668 01:41:34,601 --> 01:41:35,302 for delivering critical dam 2669 01:41:35,302 --> 01:41:36,360 safety projects ensuring that 2670 01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,636 our dams and water tanks remain 2671 01:41:39,672 --> 01:41:40,340 safe, reliable and compliant 2672 01:41:40,340 --> 01:41:41,800 with dsd requirements while 2673 01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:43,408 continuing to meet community 2674 01:41:44,444 --> 01:41:45,780 needs for decades to come. 2675 01:41:45,780 --> 01:41:45,579 Importantly, these are as 2676 01:41:45,579 --> 01:41:47,579 needed agreements. 2677 01:41:49,583 --> 01:41:50,216 There is no obligation to use 2678 01:41:50,216 --> 01:41:50,884 the full contract amount. 2679 01:41:50,884 --> 01:41:53,884 The work is authorized only 2680 01:41:54,321 --> 01:41:55,210 through individual task orders 2681 01:41:55,210 --> 01:41:55,656 even if the full value were 2682 01:41:55,656 --> 01:41:55,956 utilized over the ten year 2683 01:41:55,956 --> 01:41:56,490 term. 2684 01:41:56,490 --> 01:41:58,890 It would equate to 2685 01:41:59,590 --> 01:41:59,359 approximately $7.5 million per 2686 01:41:59,359 --> 01:42:01,359 year. 2687 01:42:04,970 --> 01:42:04,765 Each contract this provides us 2688 01:42:04,765 --> 01:42:05,332 long term flexibility rather 2689 01:42:05,332 --> 01:42:05,732 than a single upfront 2690 01:42:05,732 --> 01:42:07,732 commitment. 2691 01:42:09,636 --> 01:42:10,336 Your support for these four 2692 01:42:10,336 --> 01:42:12,736 the ordinances requested today 2693 01:42:13,206 --> 01:42:13,841 for approval of the two as 2694 01:42:13,841 --> 01:42:14,441 needed dam design services 2695 01:42:14,441 --> 01:42:16,841 agreements will help us 2696 01:42:17,611 --> 01:42:18,212 continue to safeguard our water 2697 01:42:18,212 --> 01:42:18,946 infrastructure, protect 2698 01:42:18,946 --> 01:42:21,946 the public, meet our regulatory 2699 01:42:22,115 --> 01:42:22,616 requirements and enhance 2700 01:42:22,616 --> 01:42:23,283 the resilience and 2701 01:42:23,283 --> 01:42:23,616 sustainability of our water 2702 01:42:23,616 --> 01:42:25,616 system. 2703 01:42:27,354 --> 01:42:28,550 We thank you for your 2704 01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:28,822 consideration and we are here 2705 01:42:28,822 --> 01:42:31,391 to answer any questions you MAY 2706 01:42:31,391 --> 01:42:31,792 have. 2707 01:42:31,792 --> 01:42:32,459 All right. 2708 01:42:32,459 --> 01:42:33,192 Thank you very much for 2709 01:42:33,192 --> 01:42:36,192 the presentation And with that. 2710 01:42:36,463 --> 01:42:36,931 Clerk Please proceed with 2711 01:42:36,931 --> 01:42:37,298 public comment. 2712 01:42:37,298 --> 01:42:37,798 Thank you. 2713 01:42:37,798 --> 01:42:38,499 Council PRESIDENT. 2714 01:42:38,499 --> 01:42:41,499 We have several speakers here 2715 01:42:41,902 --> 01:42:42,570 and online. 2716 01:42:42,570 --> 01:42:43,103 Rhonda Farrar If you come 2717 01:42:43,103 --> 01:42:43,870 please come forward. 2718 01:42:43,870 --> 01:42:46,907 You'll have time ceded to you 2719 01:42:46,907 --> 01:42:47,575 by Mary Ellen Lee here If you 2720 01:42:47,575 --> 01:42:48,750 can please raise your hand. 2721 01:42:48,750 --> 01:42:50,475 Thank you so much. 2722 01:42:51,780 --> 01:42:51,812 And if I can have the following 2723 01:42:51,812 --> 01:42:52,479 individuals please come forward 2724 01:42:52,479 --> 01:42:55,479 to the other reserved seats. 2725 01:42:56,784 --> 01:42:57,218 Monique Glacier Steve Lazar and 2726 01:42:57,218 --> 01:42:57,918 Robert Dudley. 2727 01:42:57,918 --> 01:43:00,754 If you can all please come out 2728 01:43:00,754 --> 01:43:01,522 to the other reserved seats. 2729 01:43:01,522 --> 01:43:01,889 You will have two minutes for 2730 01:43:01,889 --> 01:43:03,889 item 201. 2731 01:43:05,259 --> 01:43:05,726 Please proceed when ready. 2732 01:43:05,726 --> 01:43:06,392 Good afternoon. 2733 01:43:06,392 --> 01:43:08,392 Honorable Council PRESIDENT 2734 01:43:10,264 --> 01:43:11,310 Council members and City Staff. 2735 01:43:11,310 --> 01:43:11,766 My name is Rhonda Farrar and 2736 01:43:11,766 --> 01:43:15,366 I'm PRESIDENT Of the Friends of 2737 01:43:15,502 --> 01:43:16,103 Lake Hodges whose mission is to 2738 01:43:16,103 --> 01:43:16,804 support local government 2739 01:43:16,804 --> 01:43:19,740 efforts to improve Lake Hodges 2740 01:43:19,740 --> 01:43:20,441 Dam safety and capacity. 2741 01:43:20,441 --> 01:43:22,841 Water quality wildlife habitat 2742 01:43:24,845 --> 01:43:25,546 and public access for 2743 01:43:25,546 --> 01:43:26,247 the benefit of our community. 2744 01:43:26,247 --> 01:43:29,417 For over a hundred years Lake 2745 01:43:29,417 --> 01:43:30,170 Hodges has been a crown jewel 2746 01:43:30,170 --> 01:43:30,685 in North County a vital 2747 01:43:30,685 --> 01:43:33,850 drinking water reservoir, a 2748 01:43:34,554 --> 01:43:35,222 critical habitat for wildlife 2749 01:43:35,222 --> 01:43:35,923 and a recreational haven for 2750 01:43:35,923 --> 01:43:38,323 hikers, birders, fishermen and 2751 01:43:39,727 --> 01:43:40,494 paddlers. 2752 01:43:40,494 --> 01:43:41,128 But the dam that makes this 2753 01:43:41,128 --> 01:43:43,528 lake possible is currently 2754 01:43:43,931 --> 01:43:44,267 unsafe and in danger of 2755 01:43:44,267 --> 01:43:44,999 failing. 2756 01:43:44,999 --> 01:43:45,466 Council members This is not a 2757 01:43:45,466 --> 01:43:46,100 future problem. 2758 01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:48,802 This is a current crisis. 2759 01:43:48,802 --> 01:43:49,504 The existing dam is 108 years 2760 01:43:49,504 --> 01:43:49,904 old and deemed unsatisfactory 2761 01:43:49,904 --> 01:43:51,904 by the dsd. 2762 01:43:53,841 --> 01:43:54,575 It is the worst It's in 2763 01:43:54,575 --> 01:43:55,209 the worst shape of all the dams 2764 01:43:55,209 --> 01:43:58,209 in California which is why 2765 01:43:58,345 --> 01:43:59,130 the state has mandated 2766 01:43:59,130 --> 01:44:01,130 construction begin by 2029. 2767 01:44:03,500 --> 01:44:03,785 While we applaud the city's 2768 01:44:03,785 --> 01:44:04,452 plan to evaluate all the dams 2769 01:44:04,452 --> 01:44:05,119 in San Diego, it is most 2770 01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:07,519 concerning that the current 2771 01:44:08,256 --> 01:44:08,990 study of the Lake Hodges 2772 01:44:08,990 --> 01:44:09,657 alternatives is now expected to 2773 01:44:09,657 --> 01:44:12,560 be delayed until the end of 2774 01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:13,227 the year. 2775 01:44:13,227 --> 01:44:16,227 Lake Hodges has the largest 2776 01:44:16,564 --> 01:44:17,433 watershed in San Diego. 2777 01:44:17,433 --> 01:44:18,132 One inch of rain can raise 2778 01:44:18,132 --> 01:44:18,432 the lake and the entire lake a 2779 01:44:18,432 --> 01:44:20,432 foot. 2780 01:44:21,803 --> 01:44:22,503 There is too much building 2781 01:44:22,503 --> 01:44:23,237 downstream in Rancho Santa Fe 2782 01:44:23,237 --> 01:44:26,237 and the other communities there 2783 01:44:27,142 --> 01:44:27,575 for there not to be a dam for 2784 01:44:27,575 --> 01:44:28,142 flood control. 2785 01:44:28,142 --> 01:44:28,910 We need a new dam. 2786 01:44:28,910 --> 01:44:31,646 If the dam fails tomorrow 2787 01:44:31,646 --> 01:44:31,980 downstream communities would be 2788 01:44:31,980 --> 01:44:32,613 flooded. 2789 01:44:32,613 --> 01:44:35,613 Lake Hodges would become a 2790 01:44:35,650 --> 01:44:36,351 stagnant pool of wildlife that 2791 01:44:36,351 --> 01:44:36,885 and the wildlife that inhabit 2792 01:44:36,885 --> 01:44:37,618 the lake would die. 2793 01:44:37,618 --> 01:44:41,218 We would lose the ability to 2794 01:44:41,422 --> 01:44:42,900 provide water to the Rancho 2795 01:44:42,900 --> 01:44:42,557 Santa Fe and find a little 2796 01:44:42,557 --> 01:44:44,557 water districts. 2797 01:44:45,493 --> 01:44:46,194 The San Diego Lagoon which 2798 01:44:46,194 --> 01:44:46,895 taxpayers have spent millions 2799 01:44:46,895 --> 01:44:49,895 of dollars restoring would dry 2800 01:44:50,198 --> 01:44:50,865 up decimating the wetlands and 2801 01:44:50,865 --> 01:44:51,366 endangered bird populations 2802 01:44:51,366 --> 01:44:53,766 that depend on it. 2803 01:44:53,835 --> 01:44:54,536 And the $208 million pumped 2804 01:44:54,536 --> 01:44:56,936 storage facility our region's 2805 01:44:58,106 --> 01:44:58,706 largest battery for clean 2806 01:44:58,706 --> 01:44:59,400 energy would be rendered 2807 01:44:59,400 --> 01:44:59,707 useless. 2808 01:44:59,707 --> 01:45:00,375 We would lose the ability to 2809 01:45:00,375 --> 01:45:03,375 move water where it's needed 2810 01:45:03,578 --> 01:45:04,446 during a drought. 2811 01:45:04,446 --> 01:45:05,146 A new dawn needs to be 2812 01:45:05,146 --> 01:45:05,647 designed, funded and built as 2813 01:45:05,647 --> 01:45:07,647 soon as possible. 2814 01:45:08,717 --> 01:45:09,351 Is the best source of drinking 2815 01:45:09,351 --> 01:45:10,510 water for downstream water 2816 01:45:10,510 --> 01:45:13,510 districts and the lowest cost 2817 01:45:14,222 --> 01:45:15,560 water available to the region. 2818 01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:15,790 >> Although the water authority 2819 01:45:15,790 --> 01:45:17,959 does not care for that comment. 2820 01:45:17,959 --> 01:45:18,526 I thought four minutes. 2821 01:45:18,526 --> 01:45:19,261 You have two minutes. 2822 01:45:19,261 --> 01:45:19,594 You had one person set your 2823 01:45:19,594 --> 01:45:21,594 time. 2824 01:45:21,930 --> 01:45:22,931 You only submitted four Item 2825 01:45:22,931 --> 01:45:24,900 201 Did you want to speak to 2826 01:45:24,900 --> 01:45:25,667 item 2 or 2 as well? 2827 01:45:25,667 --> 01:45:28,667 Can I finish please continue. 2828 01:45:29,170 --> 01:45:30,700 I just have another minute. 2829 01:45:30,700 --> 01:45:30,772 Um a new down needs to be 2830 01:45:30,772 --> 01:45:31,472 designed, funded and built as 2831 01:45:31,472 --> 01:45:33,841 soon as possible Is the best 2832 01:45:33,841 --> 01:45:34,542 source of drinking water for 2833 01:45:34,542 --> 01:45:35,143 downstream water districts and 2834 01:45:35,143 --> 01:45:38,143 the lowest cost of water 2835 01:45:38,713 --> 01:45:39,381 available to the region. 2836 01:45:39,381 --> 01:45:40,810 Although the Water authority 2837 01:45:40,810 --> 01:45:40,782 does not currently believe it 2838 01:45:40,782 --> 01:45:43,785 needs the water in Lake Hodges 2839 01:45:43,785 --> 01:45:44,519 for the regions that is likely 2840 01:45:44,519 --> 01:45:45,220 to change over the hundred year 2841 01:45:45,220 --> 01:45:48,290 life Its life expectancy of a 2842 01:45:48,290 --> 01:45:49,156 new dam. 2843 01:45:49,156 --> 01:45:49,858 The new dam needs to be at 2844 01:45:49,858 --> 01:45:50,559 least of sufficient height to 2845 01:45:50,559 --> 01:45:52,961 allow the transfer of water to 2846 01:45:52,961 --> 01:45:53,661 the rest of the region's water 2847 01:45:53,661 --> 01:45:54,362 supply and for the billions of 2848 01:45:54,362 --> 01:45:57,362 gallons of water a precious 2849 01:45:58,800 --> 01:45:59,501 rainwater to not be released to 2850 01:45:59,501 --> 01:45:59,813 the ocean for the next hundred 2851 01:45:59,813 --> 01:46:01,813 years. 2852 01:46:02,804 --> 01:46:03,405 The friends of Lake Hodges 2853 01:46:03,405 --> 01:46:04,720 represents thousands of 2854 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:04,773 residents who use this lake. 2855 01:46:04,773 --> 01:46:07,709 We're asking you to prioritize 2856 01:46:07,709 --> 01:46:08,109 the safety and reliability for 2857 01:46:08,109 --> 01:46:08,744 our region. 2858 01:46:08,744 --> 01:46:09,410 We're asking you to direct 2859 01:46:09,410 --> 01:46:12,314 staff to expedite the design 2860 01:46:12,314 --> 01:46:13,480 building and construction 2861 01:46:13,480 --> 01:46:13,782 process to meet the state's 2862 01:46:13,782 --> 01:46:15,782 2029 deadline for construction. 2863 01:46:18,253 --> 01:46:18,921 We ask you to collaborate with 2864 01:46:18,921 --> 01:46:21,921 the city, county and federal 2865 01:46:22,900 --> 01:46:22,624 governments to secure funding 2866 01:46:22,624 --> 01:46:23,191 for this project. 2867 01:46:23,191 --> 01:46:23,859 Every month we wait, 2868 01:46:23,859 --> 01:46:26,259 construction costs rise and 2869 01:46:26,595 --> 01:46:27,950 the risk of catastrophic 2870 01:46:27,950 --> 01:46:27,830 failure increases. 2871 01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:28,430 We are gambling with a critical 2872 01:46:28,430 --> 01:46:30,830 piece of our instruction 2873 01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:32,701 infrastructure. 2874 01:46:32,701 --> 01:46:33,435 Should this dam fail, the cost 2875 01:46:33,435 --> 01:46:36,371 of building a new down would 2876 01:46:36,371 --> 01:46:37,720 increase exponentially than 2877 01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:37,706 the cost of replacing the dam 2878 01:46:37,706 --> 01:46:38,600 now with existing down in 2879 01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,600 place. 2880 01:46:41,743 --> 01:46:42,244 Let's not wait for disaster. 2881 01:46:42,244 --> 01:46:43,110 Let's prevent it. 2882 01:46:43,110 --> 01:46:46,215 On behalf of the thousands who 2883 01:46:46,215 --> 01:46:46,915 live work and play around Lake 2884 01:46:46,915 --> 01:46:47,649 Hodges, I urge you to direct 2885 01:46:47,649 --> 01:46:50,649 staff to expedite this project. 2886 01:46:50,820 --> 01:46:51,286 Let's get this done. 2887 01:46:51,286 --> 01:46:51,687 >> Thank you. 2888 01:46:51,687 --> 01:46:53,687 Thank you. 2889 01:46:54,123 --> 01:46:56,123 Next is Monique. 2890 01:46:57,726 --> 01:46:58,270 You're speaking on item 2 or 2 2891 01:46:58,270 --> 01:46:58,627 . 2892 01:46:58,627 --> 01:47:01,270 You'll have one minute. 2893 01:47:03,399 --> 01:47:04,166 Please proceed. 2894 01:47:04,166 --> 01:47:06,634 My name is Monique Lesher and 2895 01:47:06,634 --> 01:47:07,403 I'm representing Ray's Lake 2896 01:47:07,403 --> 01:47:09,803 Hodges and 80,000 San Diegans 2897 01:47:12,410 --> 01:47:12,408 and an entire wetlands 2898 01:47:12,408 --> 01:47:13,108 ecosystem. 2899 01:47:13,108 --> 01:47:16,108 As someone who's worked for 2900 01:47:16,979 --> 01:47:17,780 environmental organizations for 2901 01:47:17,780 --> 01:47:18,313 most of my life, I'm happy to 2902 01:47:18,313 --> 01:47:18,781 see your devotion to 2903 01:47:18,781 --> 01:47:20,781 the environment. 2904 01:47:22,451 --> 01:47:23,151 But Lake Hodges is a 2905 01:47:23,151 --> 01:47:25,151 environmental tragedy waiting 2906 01:47:26,555 --> 01:47:27,323 to happen. 2907 01:47:27,323 --> 01:47:30,726 We support a new dam but 2908 01:47:30,726 --> 01:47:31,427 the city budget clearly does 2909 01:47:31,427 --> 01:47:32,940 not support a $300 million 2910 01:47:32,940 --> 01:47:32,394 repair replacement any time 2911 01:47:32,394 --> 01:47:34,394 soon. 2912 01:47:40,136 --> 01:47:40,669 So in the meantime, Lake Hodges 2913 01:47:40,669 --> 01:47:41,504 remains at 280ft. 2914 01:47:41,504 --> 01:47:43,904 That's roughly 16% capacity And 2915 01:47:45,474 --> 01:47:46,800 the sand to Gila River Valley 2916 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:46,575 is paying the price. 2917 01:47:46,575 --> 01:47:46,942 The lake is not just a 2918 01:47:46,942 --> 01:47:48,942 reservoir. 2919 01:47:50,246 --> 01:47:50,980 It's wildlife corridor. 2920 01:47:50,980 --> 01:47:51,480 It's a wetland ecosystem and it 2921 01:47:51,480 --> 01:47:53,880 is a fire buffer. 2922 01:47:55,418 --> 01:47:58,418 There has been no environmental 2923 01:47:59,789 --> 01:48:00,489 impact upstream of the dam and 2924 01:48:00,489 --> 01:48:04,890 the lake bed is drying out. 2925 01:48:04,794 --> 01:48:05,294 The grabs there used to be Wow, 2926 01:48:05,294 --> 01:48:05,795 that was fast. 2927 01:48:05,795 --> 01:48:06,162 >> All right. 2928 01:48:06,162 --> 01:48:08,162 Thank you. 2929 01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:10,599 Thank you. 2930 01:48:10,599 --> 01:48:11,300 The timer is there in 2931 01:48:11,300 --> 01:48:11,668 the corner so you can monitor 2932 01:48:11,668 --> 01:48:12,468 your time. 2933 01:48:12,468 --> 01:48:15,468 Steve Leisure your speaking on 2934 01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:18,441 item 202. 2935 01:48:18,441 --> 01:48:19,110 Hello. 2936 01:48:19,110 --> 01:48:22,110 My name is Steve Lush. 2937 01:48:22,111 --> 01:48:22,545 I'm also part of the Hodges 2938 01:48:22,545 --> 01:48:23,479 gang here. 2939 01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,983 I just want to talk a little 2940 01:48:26,983 --> 01:48:27,650 bit about the unintended cost 2941 01:48:27,650 --> 01:48:31,250 you know the cascade of cost 2942 01:48:31,554 --> 01:48:32,321 that's involved in this. 2943 01:48:32,321 --> 01:48:35,921 So what happens is our property 2944 01:48:36,392 --> 01:48:37,260 taxes are elevated because 2945 01:48:37,260 --> 01:48:37,694 the amount of the our home 2946 01:48:37,694 --> 01:48:40,940 values actually continues to 2947 01:48:41,164 --> 01:48:41,931 decrease. 2948 01:48:41,931 --> 01:48:42,498 A great example that would be 2949 01:48:42,498 --> 01:48:43,199 the Pacific Palisades 2950 01:48:43,199 --> 01:48:45,599 The tragedy tragedies happened 2951 01:48:45,969 --> 01:48:46,669 there More than 90% of 2952 01:48:46,669 --> 01:48:47,169 the people have yet to receive 2953 01:48:47,169 --> 01:48:49,169 any insurance and 2954 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:51,608 the California fire plan less 2955 01:48:51,608 --> 01:48:51,975 than 10% have received 2956 01:48:51,975 --> 01:48:52,609 anything. 2957 01:48:52,609 --> 01:48:55,609 Those that have have only 2958 01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:57,213 received an average of 10% of 2959 01:48:57,213 --> 01:48:57,913 what they file for were next in 2960 01:48:57,913 --> 01:49:00,913 line for that to happen. 2961 01:49:01,884 --> 01:49:02,552 So the cost of property taxes 2962 01:49:02,552 --> 01:49:04,952 are inappropriate and our 2963 01:49:05,522 --> 01:49:06,256 property taxes California for 2964 01:49:06,256 --> 01:49:07,560 our plan says no our properties 2965 01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:09,560 are worth less. 2966 01:49:12,796 --> 01:49:16,396 In addition our water costs are 2967 01:49:17,233 --> 01:49:17,967 higher borrowing rates are 2968 01:49:17,967 --> 01:49:18,668 higher, there's no competition. 2969 01:49:18,668 --> 01:49:21,668 Selling our properties will be 2970 01:49:22,500 --> 01:49:22,706 harder for most of our property 2971 01:49:22,706 --> 01:49:23,540 we can't get insurance for. 2972 01:49:23,540 --> 01:49:24,207 >> So anyway there's a lot of 2973 01:49:24,207 --> 01:49:24,975 cascade effects that go on. 2974 01:49:24,975 --> 01:49:27,975 Thank you for that concluding 2975 01:49:34,217 --> 01:49:35,218 comment Robert Good afternoon. 2976 01:49:35,218 --> 01:49:38,818 I'm Robert Dudley and I am 2977 01:49:39,489 --> 01:49:40,256 the city of San Diego as my 2978 01:49:40,256 --> 01:49:43,856 closest neighbor I also am on 2979 01:49:44,227 --> 01:49:44,961 the cac council which I 2980 01:49:44,961 --> 01:49:47,961 appreciate the patience and and 2981 01:49:49,633 --> 01:49:50,233 contribution of Council 2982 01:49:50,233 --> 01:49:52,633 PRESIDENT Lacob and and 2983 01:49:53,837 --> 01:49:54,604 Councilmember Wilbur I brought 2984 01:49:54,604 --> 01:49:58,204 this up probably two years ago 2985 01:49:59,420 --> 01:50:03,242 and in that time we have lost 2986 01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:03,980 we've lost opportunity. 2987 01:50:03,980 --> 01:50:06,616 The big difference is what 2988 01:50:06,616 --> 01:50:10,816 happened in L.A. The fires of 2989 01:50:11,521 --> 01:50:12,289 L.A. Have changed everything. 2990 01:50:12,289 --> 01:50:15,289 Last week the mayor directed 2991 01:50:16,727 --> 01:50:17,394 the pound of flesh more 2992 01:50:17,394 --> 01:50:17,994 precious water, local water 2993 01:50:17,994 --> 01:50:18,728 downstream to the ocean. 2994 01:50:18,728 --> 01:50:22,990 While the city has done nothing 2995 01:50:22,990 --> 01:50:22,399 to address dam conditions for 2996 01:50:22,399 --> 01:50:24,399 years. 2997 01:50:26,169 --> 01:50:26,803 So I stand in favor of 2998 01:50:26,803 --> 01:50:27,436 the action now before us. 2999 01:50:27,436 --> 01:50:28,105 Repair and replacement of 3000 01:50:28,105 --> 01:50:31,105 the dam Restoring the city's 3001 01:50:31,341 --> 01:50:31,808 commitment to the emergency 3002 01:50:31,808 --> 01:50:33,808 storage project. 3003 01:50:36,446 --> 01:50:39,446 Empirically there has been MAY 3004 01:50:39,916 --> 01:50:40,918 be extending an additional two 3005 01:50:40,918 --> 01:50:41,618 minutes for 2 or 1 It would be 3006 01:50:41,618 --> 01:50:44,618 an additional minute for 2a1. 3007 01:50:45,154 --> 01:50:47,154 Thank you. 3008 01:50:48,825 --> 01:50:52,729 See So there has been no major 3009 01:50:52,729 --> 01:50:53,130 dam collapse in California 3010 01:50:53,130 --> 01:50:53,797 since 1928. 3011 01:50:53,797 --> 01:50:57,397 At the same time we've seen 3012 01:50:58,135 --> 01:50:58,702 increases in the risk of fire 3013 01:50:58,702 --> 01:51:00,702 throughout California. 3014 01:51:03,273 --> 01:51:03,907 This body must recognize that 3015 01:51:03,907 --> 01:51:04,541 urban wildfire represents 3016 01:51:04,541 --> 01:51:06,941 the greatest acceptance of 3017 01:51:07,544 --> 01:51:07,978 natural threat to the citizens 3018 01:51:07,978 --> 01:51:09,978 of San Diego. 3019 01:51:10,714 --> 01:51:11,582 The Palisades and Altadena 3020 01:51:11,582 --> 01:51:15,182 Fires of 2025 and the Camp Fire 3021 01:51:15,718 --> 01:51:17,718 of 20 2018 Collective only 3022 01:51:18,856 --> 01:51:20,856 resulted in 116 deaths 255,000 3023 01:51:23,393 --> 01:51:23,961 displaced citizens and more 3024 01:51:23,961 --> 01:51:25,961 than 34,000 structures 3025 01:51:27,464 --> 01:51:27,797 destroyed with a loss of $16 3026 01:51:27,797 --> 01:51:28,365 billion. 3027 01:51:28,365 --> 01:51:30,765 What have we learned? 3028 01:51:32,136 --> 01:51:32,803 In the interim the incident 3029 01:51:32,803 --> 01:51:33,504 captains reported that each 3030 01:51:33,504 --> 01:51:36,504 that each situation the fires 3031 01:51:37,775 --> 01:51:38,175 were behaving like they'd never 3032 01:51:38,175 --> 01:51:38,876 seen before. 3033 01:51:38,876 --> 01:51:41,876 Fires are different than they 3034 01:51:42,613 --> 01:51:43,481 were in past years. 3035 01:51:43,481 --> 01:51:44,248 So we really need to address 3036 01:51:44,248 --> 01:51:47,651 this And I would support I 3037 01:51:47,651 --> 01:51:48,252 would run that said that we 3038 01:51:48,252 --> 01:51:48,852 really need to look at 3039 01:51:48,852 --> 01:51:51,252 replacement of this dam. 3040 01:51:52,890 --> 01:51:53,290 And in the meantime your time 3041 01:51:53,290 --> 01:51:53,657 has expired. 3042 01:51:53,657 --> 01:51:54,240 Thank you. 3043 01:51:54,240 --> 01:51:56,240 Thank you. 3044 01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:56,960 I started the five minute timer 3045 01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:57,695 going to those that does 3046 01:51:57,695 --> 01:51:58,195 conclude public comment here in 3047 01:51:58,195 --> 01:52:00,195 council chambers. 3048 01:52:00,364 --> 01:52:00,898 I've started the five minute 3049 01:52:00,898 --> 01:52:01,499 timer going to those 3050 01:52:01,499 --> 01:52:02,232 participating remotely. 3051 01:52:02,232 --> 01:52:02,666 We currently have four speakers 3052 01:52:02,666 --> 01:52:04,666 in the queue. 3053 01:52:06,137 --> 01:52:06,871 Please be sure to let me know 3054 01:52:06,871 --> 01:52:07,537 which item or items you wish to 3055 01:52:07,537 --> 01:52:09,473 speak to when I unmute you. 3056 01:52:09,473 --> 01:52:09,807 John Stump If you can please 3057 01:52:09,807 --> 01:52:10,274 unmute. 3058 01:52:10,274 --> 01:52:12,274 >> Thank you. 3059 01:52:15,790 --> 01:52:15,780 I'm speaking about items two. 3060 01:52:15,780 --> 01:52:16,179 >> You'll have two minutes one 3061 01:52:16,179 --> 01:52:16,647 minute each. 3062 01:52:16,647 --> 01:52:17,140 Please proceed. 3063 01:52:17,140 --> 01:52:19,140 Thank you. 3064 01:52:19,483 --> 01:52:20,251 I support this item. 3065 01:52:20,251 --> 01:52:22,251 I'm particularly concerned 3066 01:52:24,522 --> 01:52:27,522 about the dam called Troilus. 3067 01:52:28,826 --> 01:52:29,460 The dam called Troilus is 3068 01:52:29,460 --> 01:52:32,460 the City Park Choice Lake. 3069 01:52:32,630 --> 01:52:33,231 This dam is more than 110 years 3070 01:52:33,231 --> 01:52:36,231 old of a unique type. 3071 01:52:38,202 --> 01:52:41,802 No longer built And if it 3072 01:52:42,740 --> 01:52:43,441 failed it would flood to 3073 01:52:43,441 --> 01:52:46,441 the San Diego Bay, endanger 3074 01:52:46,477 --> 01:52:47,110 some 5000 homes and 10,000 3075 01:52:47,110 --> 01:52:49,110 sleeping residents. 3076 01:52:51,382 --> 01:52:54,382 You have engineers on your 3077 01:52:55,553 --> 01:52:56,320 council and they could look at 3078 01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,320 the structure This dam it's 3079 01:53:00,391 --> 01:53:02,391 very strange. 3080 01:53:05,195 --> 01:53:09,395 What I ask is that the council 3081 01:53:11,135 --> 01:53:14,135 look into opportunities to fill 3082 01:53:15,573 --> 01:53:16,341 Troilus Lake instead of with 3083 01:53:16,341 --> 01:53:19,341 potable water which it's doing 3084 01:53:20,312 --> 01:53:23,912 now but with either using pure 3085 01:53:25,216 --> 01:53:26,840 water or storm water. 3086 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,840 Finally if you look at 3087 01:53:30,221 --> 01:53:31,210 the staff report, nowhere in 3088 01:53:31,210 --> 01:53:34,621 the staff report do they talk 3089 01:53:34,992 --> 01:53:37,992 about the stakeholders as being 3090 01:53:39,898 --> 01:53:40,565 parks and Recreation and 3091 01:53:40,565 --> 01:53:42,965 the recreation councils and 3092 01:53:44,736 --> 01:53:45,704 the community councils. 3093 01:53:45,704 --> 01:53:49,304 We need the staff reports in 3094 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,608 the future and this contract to 3095 01:53:54,179 --> 01:53:54,879 consult with parks and 3096 01:53:54,879 --> 01:53:56,879 Recreation concerning Troilus 3097 01:53:59,316 --> 01:53:59,985 Lake Dam. 3098 01:53:59,985 --> 01:54:00,452 >> Thank you very much. 3099 01:54:00,452 --> 01:54:02,452 Keep us safe. 3100 01:54:03,922 --> 01:54:04,789 Thank you. 3101 01:54:04,789 --> 01:54:05,900 Next is phone number ending in 3102 01:54:05,900 --> 01:54:07,900 8700. 3103 01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:09,660 If you can do sorry if you can 3104 01:54:09,660 --> 01:54:11,660 please unmute. 3105 01:54:23,175 --> 01:54:25,750 8700 apologies 8700 I have sent 3106 01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:28,675 you to unmute your press star 3107 01:54:30,281 --> 01:54:30,582 six to unmute. 3108 01:54:30,582 --> 01:54:30,949 Hello. 3109 01:54:30,949 --> 01:54:31,450 Yes hello. 3110 01:54:31,450 --> 01:54:33,450 Are you speaking? 3111 01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:36,621 Can you hear me? 3112 01:54:36,621 --> 01:54:39,258 Yes I can hear you. 3113 01:54:39,258 --> 01:54:40,250 Okay well I did the story six 3114 01:54:40,250 --> 01:54:43,163 both times perfectly so I don't 3115 01:54:43,163 --> 01:54:44,960 know what happened. 3116 01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:44,496 50 City Clerk I will be doing 3117 01:54:44,496 --> 01:54:44,863 both items. 3118 01:54:44,863 --> 01:54:46,863 Thank you. 3119 01:54:47,499 --> 01:54:49,499 Please proceed. 3120 01:54:52,771 --> 01:54:53,538 Um, first of all Pudi and and 3121 01:54:53,538 --> 01:54:56,538 you know everyone involved in 3122 01:54:57,409 --> 01:54:58,110 this. 3123 01:54:58,110 --> 01:54:58,677 You have my full support. 3124 01:54:58,677 --> 01:55:01,770 This is a mess. 3125 01:55:02,447 --> 01:55:03,214 But to put that behind us we've 3126 01:55:03,214 --> 01:55:06,718 got what we've got Now you have 3127 01:55:06,718 --> 01:55:08,718 my full support. 3128 01:55:09,922 --> 01:55:10,422 The Colorado River Aqueduct is 3129 01:55:10,422 --> 01:55:11,290 42 miles long. 3130 01:55:11,290 --> 01:55:11,590 It provides 50 to 60% of our 3131 01:55:11,590 --> 01:55:13,590 water. 3132 01:55:15,159 --> 01:55:18,759 Local dams such as Lake Hodges. 3133 01:55:19,965 --> 01:55:20,499 Thank you speakers for speaking 3134 01:55:20,499 --> 01:55:20,866 up for Lake Hodges. 3135 01:55:20,866 --> 01:55:22,866 Love you. 3136 01:55:24,703 --> 01:55:25,471 So Lake Hodges and the other 3137 01:55:25,471 --> 01:55:28,471 dams act as critical storage 3138 01:55:29,274 --> 01:55:31,674 for this important water. 3139 01:55:34,246 --> 01:55:34,913 Blending it with local runoff 3140 01:55:34,913 --> 01:55:35,414 to supply the city with 3141 01:55:35,414 --> 01:55:37,814 the water we need. 3142 01:55:39,218 --> 01:55:39,618 Dam safety equals ongoing 3143 01:55:39,618 --> 01:55:41,618 maintenance. 3144 01:55:43,689 --> 01:55:43,989 Deferred maintenance is not 3145 01:55:43,989 --> 01:55:44,590 safe. 3146 01:55:44,590 --> 01:55:46,990 It creates high risk. 3147 01:55:48,260 --> 01:55:51,860 As I said, this whole thing 3148 01:55:53,332 --> 01:55:53,832 the whole water supply system 3149 01:55:53,832 --> 01:55:54,700 it's a mess. 3150 01:55:54,700 --> 01:55:57,700 But let let's look for 3151 01:55:58,871 --> 01:55:59,538 the opportunities and let's go 3152 01:55:59,538 --> 01:55:59,938 there and do it whatever we 3153 01:55:59,938 --> 01:56:01,938 need to do. 3154 01:56:03,309 --> 01:56:04,109 Now you have my full support 3155 01:56:04,109 --> 01:56:07,479 and I just love all of you. 3156 01:56:07,479 --> 01:56:07,879 This is really tough work. 3157 01:56:07,879 --> 01:56:08,814 Okay. 3158 01:56:08,814 --> 01:56:12,414 Until two quite a lot of 3159 01:56:13,180 --> 01:56:13,986 the under-representation is 3160 01:56:13,986 --> 01:56:17,586 there in both hdr and Stantec 3161 01:56:18,230 --> 01:56:18,624 Both. 3162 01:56:18,624 --> 01:56:21,240 Both companies do report 3163 01:56:22,661 --> 01:56:23,296 progress in reducing 3164 01:56:23,296 --> 01:56:24,300 the under-representation. 3165 01:56:24,300 --> 01:56:24,396 So I was glad to see that 3166 01:56:24,396 --> 01:56:26,396 statement. 3167 01:56:27,733 --> 01:56:28,501 But I'm really really not happy 3168 01:56:28,501 --> 01:56:31,501 with seeing how much is 3169 01:56:32,505 --> 01:56:32,905 underrepresented Asian 3170 01:56:32,905 --> 01:56:33,672 represented. 3171 01:56:33,672 --> 01:56:37,543 So I was confused by the tbd 3172 01:56:37,543 --> 01:56:41,143 that to be decided They were 3173 01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:42,848 all over the eeoc report. 3174 01:56:42,848 --> 01:56:43,149 And I've never seen that before 3175 01:56:43,149 --> 01:56:45,149 ever. 3176 01:56:46,185 --> 01:56:46,485 So I don't know what that's all 3177 01:56:46,485 --> 01:56:47,186 about. 3178 01:56:47,186 --> 01:56:50,786 But in any case water, water, 3179 01:56:51,524 --> 01:56:52,358 water your time has concluded. 3180 01:56:52,358 --> 01:56:55,958 My apologies Hector, if you can 3181 01:56:56,228 --> 01:56:56,896 please unmute. 3182 01:56:56,896 --> 01:56:57,329 That also concludes the five 3183 01:56:57,329 --> 01:56:57,896 minute timer. 3184 01:56:57,896 --> 01:56:58,264 We have two additional 3185 01:56:58,264 --> 01:57:00,264 speakers. 3186 01:57:00,432 --> 01:57:00,733 No other speakers will be taken 3187 01:57:00,733 --> 01:57:01,434 . 3188 01:57:01,434 --> 01:57:02,135 Hector, please let me know 3189 01:57:02,135 --> 01:57:02,401 which items you wish to speak 3190 01:57:02,401 --> 01:57:04,401 to. 3191 01:57:06,672 --> 01:57:06,973 I'd like to speak to both of 3192 01:57:06,973 --> 01:57:07,673 them. 3193 01:57:07,673 --> 01:57:07,974 Thanks for taking my call this 3194 01:57:07,974 --> 01:57:09,974 time. 3195 01:57:11,770 --> 01:57:11,778 Well, ma'am, when you listen 3196 01:57:11,778 --> 01:57:12,445 when you listen to this when I 3197 01:57:12,445 --> 01:57:16,450 listen to this, you guys are 3198 01:57:16,515 --> 01:57:17,160 way over your head on this man. 3199 01:57:17,160 --> 01:57:17,850 Here's five years. 3200 01:57:17,850 --> 01:57:20,519 You guys can't even figure out 3201 01:57:20,519 --> 01:57:21,220 a parking meter And the roof 3202 01:57:21,220 --> 01:57:24,220 leaks at the convention center 3203 01:57:25,458 --> 01:57:25,958 for months and you can't hire a 3204 01:57:25,958 --> 01:57:26,626 couple of roofers. 3205 01:57:26,626 --> 01:57:26,926 You guys are way over your 3206 01:57:26,926 --> 01:57:28,926 head. 3207 01:57:29,962 --> 01:57:30,630 I think the Lake Hodges lady 3208 01:57:30,630 --> 01:57:33,300 should contract a private 3209 01:57:34,534 --> 01:57:34,867 investor to build a dam for 3210 01:57:34,867 --> 01:57:36,867 profit. 3211 01:57:38,972 --> 01:57:39,539 Give them the water rights and 3212 01:57:39,539 --> 01:57:40,139 give them the electric 3213 01:57:40,139 --> 01:57:40,673 generator at the bottom. 3214 01:57:40,673 --> 01:57:41,730 They could generate 3215 01:57:41,730 --> 01:57:43,730 electricity. 3216 01:57:44,544 --> 01:57:44,911 Negotiate a rates through 3217 01:57:44,911 --> 01:57:46,911 the water. 3218 01:57:48,181 --> 01:57:48,948 Let him on the dam and he could 3219 01:57:48,948 --> 01:57:52,548 build a dam like 20ft higher 3220 01:57:52,552 --> 01:57:53,419 than it is State of the art 3221 01:57:53,419 --> 01:57:57,190 Like a 50 yards a hundred yards 3222 01:57:57,490 --> 01:57:58,358 below the other dam and water 3223 01:57:58,358 --> 01:58:01,958 rose up 20ft above the existing 3224 01:58:02,896 --> 01:58:03,396 dam and leave it and everyone 3225 01:58:03,396 --> 01:58:04,640 would be cool. 3226 01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:04,464 It's just a matter of 3227 01:58:04,464 --> 01:58:06,464 negotiating. 3228 01:58:07,700 --> 01:58:08,468 Talk to the back door. 3229 01:58:08,468 --> 01:58:09,235 What's up big company Big time 3230 01:58:09,235 --> 01:58:12,372 Guys can build the dam They 3231 01:58:12,372 --> 01:58:13,139 design it, they build it, they 3232 01:58:13,139 --> 01:58:17,310 own it and we'll let them and 3233 01:58:17,310 --> 01:58:17,610 we'll let them charge for 3234 01:58:17,610 --> 01:58:18,278 water. 3235 01:58:18,278 --> 01:58:19,780 Give us a discount rate on 3236 01:58:19,780 --> 01:58:22,315 the water and power that it 3237 01:58:22,315 --> 01:58:22,616 generates over time over 100 3238 01:58:22,616 --> 01:58:23,216 years. 3239 01:58:23,216 --> 01:58:26,216 There could be some guys 3240 01:58:27,254 --> 01:58:27,920 that'll do it big time dudes 3241 01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,520 and know how to build dams 3242 01:58:31,625 --> 01:58:32,358 instead of having the and 3243 01:58:32,358 --> 01:58:32,959 the other other guys don't even 3244 01:58:32,959 --> 01:58:35,359 talk about Lake Hodges. 3245 01:58:37,430 --> 01:58:38,197 Look at the other dams There's 3246 01:58:38,197 --> 01:58:40,402 so many other dams can look at 3247 01:58:40,402 --> 01:58:41,368 because if you study they cause 3248 01:58:41,368 --> 01:58:42,235 you know it's got to go and we 3249 01:58:42,235 --> 01:58:45,835 got to get some make it 3250 01:58:45,906 --> 01:58:46,606 profitable for somebody just 3251 01:58:46,606 --> 01:58:50,206 build it and you know they 3252 01:58:50,777 --> 01:58:51,477 build it huge It'll be a great 3253 01:58:51,477 --> 01:58:51,978 investment and the city won't 3254 01:58:51,978 --> 01:58:54,378 need to touch it. 3255 01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:55,749 Cities just wasting their money 3256 01:58:55,749 --> 01:58:56,115 looking at it they don't got 3257 01:58:56,115 --> 01:58:58,115 the money. 3258 01:58:59,919 --> 01:59:00,519 They don't even have The money 3259 01:59:00,519 --> 01:59:03,519 is it's not even there. 3260 01:59:04,824 --> 01:59:05,492 Thanks a lot. 3261 01:59:05,492 --> 01:59:05,826 Our next speaker is Blair 3262 01:59:05,826 --> 01:59:07,826 Beekman. 3263 01:59:09,663 --> 01:59:12,663 If you can please unmute. 3264 01:59:14,935 --> 01:59:15,636 Okay that's perfect. 3265 01:59:15,636 --> 01:59:16,703 I hope you can hear me. 3266 01:59:16,703 --> 01:59:19,939 I think it's going to be really 3267 01:59:19,939 --> 01:59:20,807 bad today I'm on an airplane 3268 01:59:20,807 --> 01:59:24,111 headed back to San Diego from 3269 01:59:24,111 --> 01:59:26,111 Maui. 3270 01:59:29,160 --> 01:59:29,783 Um typically after uh we're 3271 01:59:29,783 --> 01:59:32,783 talking on both items work 3272 01:59:38,192 --> 01:59:38,825 after Yes yes, Yes, ma'am. 3273 01:59:38,825 --> 01:59:39,226 Please get in here. 3274 01:59:39,226 --> 01:59:39,626 Yes, sir. 3275 01:59:39,626 --> 01:59:39,927 It's okay. 3276 01:59:39,927 --> 01:59:41,927 Okay. 3277 01:59:43,960 --> 01:59:46,696 I have to hang up now. 3278 01:59:47,334 --> 01:59:48,135 Lake Yes, I offer I've got a 3279 01:59:48,135 --> 01:59:48,902 good for San Diego's going up 3280 01:59:48,902 --> 01:59:51,572 there but it is around You 3281 01:59:51,572 --> 01:59:52,473 keep up the good work. 3282 01:59:52,473 --> 01:59:53,400 >> Have these items a lot on 3283 01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:53,407 city council meetings. 3284 01:59:53,407 --> 01:59:54,308 Thank you. 3285 01:59:54,308 --> 01:59:57,308 Our final speaker is Kathleen 3286 01:59:58,946 --> 01:59:59,847 Lippert. 3287 01:59:59,847 --> 02:00:03,447 Thank you for letting me speak. 3288 02:00:04,517 --> 02:00:05,185 California is a I'd like to 3289 02:00:05,185 --> 02:00:08,185 speak to both items please. 3290 02:00:08,688 --> 02:00:08,955 >> 1 to 1 and 102 Can you hear 3291 02:00:08,955 --> 02:00:09,423 me? 3292 02:00:09,423 --> 02:00:11,423 Please proceed. 3293 02:00:13,227 --> 02:00:13,827 California is a desert and 3294 02:00:13,827 --> 02:00:14,560 water is a necessary and 3295 02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:17,560 limited resource of the highest 3296 02:00:17,831 --> 02:00:18,568 priority. 3297 02:00:18,568 --> 02:00:19,266 Instead the public has watched 3298 02:00:19,266 --> 02:00:22,266 as dam conditions have eroded 3299 02:00:23,137 --> 02:00:23,904 not just Lake Hodges. 3300 02:00:23,904 --> 02:00:27,504 The city was warned four years 3301 02:00:27,708 --> 02:00:28,475 ago that Lake Hodges was deemed 3302 02:00:28,475 --> 02:00:29,276 in need of critical repair but 3303 02:00:29,276 --> 02:00:32,276 once again City postponed and 3304 02:00:32,579 --> 02:00:33,279 redirected funds reserved for 3305 02:00:33,279 --> 02:00:33,880 addressing dam maintenance and 3306 02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:36,280 repair to numerous other 3307 02:00:37,718 --> 02:00:38,518 projects none of which are as 3308 02:00:38,518 --> 02:00:41,518 critical as potable water for 3309 02:00:42,220 --> 02:00:42,756 the public. 3310 02:00:42,756 --> 02:00:45,756 The costs of deferred spending 3311 02:00:47,128 --> 02:00:48,950 for critical resource our water 3312 02:00:48,950 --> 02:00:51,950 went has gone down from $400 3313 02:00:51,332 --> 02:00:51,798 per acre foot to 2600 for 3314 02:00:51,798 --> 02:00:53,798 imported water. 3315 02:00:55,569 --> 02:00:56,370 It's inexcusable that the city 3316 02:00:56,370 --> 02:00:57,138 failed to recognize that a dam 3317 02:00:57,138 --> 02:01:00,138 over 100 years old should have 3318 02:01:00,541 --> 02:01:01,420 been monitored regularly for 3319 02:01:01,420 --> 02:01:03,420 necessary repairs. 3320 02:01:05,746 --> 02:01:06,480 Its structural degradation and 3321 02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:06,781 defects were only discovered in 3322 02:01:06,781 --> 02:01:08,781 2022. 3323 02:01:10,985 --> 02:01:11,686 A full replacement of the Time 3324 02:01:11,686 --> 02:01:14,686 dam is currently being planned 3325 02:01:14,789 --> 02:01:15,189 for repair but it won't be done 3326 02:01:15,189 --> 02:01:17,189 until 2034. 3327 02:01:19,527 --> 02:01:20,194 We wasted $11 billion worth of 3328 02:01:20,194 --> 02:01:23,794 water that had to be flushed 3329 02:01:23,998 --> 02:01:24,665 out to the ocean because Lake 3330 02:01:24,665 --> 02:01:26,665 Hodges couldn't accommodate 3331 02:01:28,536 --> 02:01:29,137 the increased water levels to 3332 02:01:29,137 --> 02:01:29,837 preserve human life and 3333 02:01:29,837 --> 02:01:32,837 property and comply with state 3334 02:01:33,708 --> 02:01:35,708 regulators. 3335 02:01:38,512 --> 02:01:39,380 And in a 2019 order please stop 3336 02:01:39,380 --> 02:01:41,780 postponing projects that you 3337 02:01:43,618 --> 02:01:47,218 have money set aside to monitor 3338 02:01:47,488 --> 02:01:48,121 and start putting it towards 3339 02:01:48,121 --> 02:01:50,121 special interest projects. 3340 02:01:52,793 --> 02:01:53,940 Thank you for letting me speak 3341 02:01:53,940 --> 02:01:53,595 . 3342 02:01:53,595 --> 02:01:54,295 >> Thank you. 3343 02:01:54,295 --> 02:01:54,761 That concludes public comment 3344 02:01:54,761 --> 02:01:55,129 on these items. 3345 02:01:55,129 --> 02:01:55,496 All right. 3346 02:01:55,496 --> 02:01:57,465 Thank you. 3347 02:01:57,465 --> 02:01:58,165 City clerk We'll turn it over 3348 02:01:58,165 --> 02:02:01,165 to my colleagues for questions 3349 02:02:02,303 --> 02:02:03,271 and comments Again. 3350 02:02:03,271 --> 02:02:06,271 201 is a information item no 3351 02:02:06,307 --> 02:02:06,941 actions required 202 does 3352 02:02:06,941 --> 02:02:07,542 require a motion And we'll 3353 02:02:07,542 --> 02:02:10,542 start with the chair of 3354 02:02:11,646 --> 02:02:12,280 the active Transportation and 3355 02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:12,847 Infrastructure Committee, 3356 02:02:12,847 --> 02:02:13,214 Councilmember Whitman. 3357 02:02:13,214 --> 02:02:15,214 Thank you. 3358 02:02:16,217 --> 02:02:16,984 Council PRESIDENT. 3359 02:02:16,984 --> 02:02:17,685 A couple of other questions 3360 02:02:17,685 --> 02:02:20,120 since we did discuss this and 3361 02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:20,822 active transportation and 3362 02:02:20,822 --> 02:02:21,522 Infrastructure Committee but I 3363 02:02:21,522 --> 02:02:24,522 think the points are important 3364 02:02:25,593 --> 02:02:26,227 to capture here at the council 3365 02:02:26,227 --> 02:02:29,227 meeting as well The design 3366 02:02:30,131 --> 02:02:30,732 services that are covered by 3367 02:02:30,732 --> 02:02:31,398 these proposed contracts 3368 02:02:31,398 --> 02:02:34,903 between the city and hdr and 3369 02:02:34,903 --> 02:02:37,903 stantec those will be provided 3370 02:02:39,341 --> 02:02:40,400 and as needed basis and in 3371 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:40,708 other words the city will only 3372 02:02:40,708 --> 02:02:43,708 pay for the design services 3373 02:02:44,512 --> 02:02:44,846 that it requests and receives, 3374 02:02:44,846 --> 02:02:45,413 correct? 3375 02:02:45,413 --> 02:02:47,813 That is correct, sir. 3376 02:02:49,784 --> 02:02:50,517 We've been hearing a lot of 3377 02:02:50,517 --> 02:02:53,517 discussion around the future of 3378 02:02:54,355 --> 02:02:56,355 Lake Hodges Dam. 3379 02:02:59,160 --> 02:03:02,160 The state has ordered that 3380 02:03:03,298 --> 02:03:04,990 the city conduct some measures 3381 02:03:04,990 --> 02:03:04,866 to reduce the risk of a dam 3382 02:03:04,866 --> 02:03:07,866 failure and those measures are 3383 02:03:08,837 --> 02:03:09,804 not going to be cheap. 3384 02:03:09,804 --> 02:03:13,575 So I want to ask for the record 3385 02:03:13,575 --> 02:03:14,276 given the questions about Lake 3386 02:03:14,276 --> 02:03:15,430 Hodges Dam, does the city have 3387 02:03:15,430 --> 02:03:18,179 a choice about whether or not 3388 02:03:18,179 --> 02:03:21,179 to perform the state mandated 3389 02:03:23,285 --> 02:03:23,685 risk reduction measures at Lake 3390 02:03:23,685 --> 02:03:24,386 Hodges Dam? 3391 02:03:24,386 --> 02:03:25,530 No, we're required to do those 3392 02:03:25,530 --> 02:03:27,453 risk reduction measures and 3393 02:03:28,724 --> 02:03:29,424 that is what these dam services 3394 02:03:29,424 --> 02:03:32,424 contracts will help us design 3395 02:03:32,727 --> 02:03:33,394 for it. 3396 02:03:33,394 --> 02:03:35,794 If we don't, what's 3397 02:03:37,466 --> 02:03:38,333 the consequence of of saying 3398 02:03:38,333 --> 02:03:38,934 that No, we're not going to do 3399 02:03:38,934 --> 02:03:39,501 that later has different 3400 02:03:39,501 --> 02:03:41,901 options at their play. 3401 02:03:42,537 --> 02:03:43,238 >> I mean you can they've been 3402 02:03:43,238 --> 02:03:43,905 wanting this This is the only 3403 02:03:43,905 --> 02:03:46,305 unsatisfactory dam in their 3404 02:03:47,309 --> 02:03:48,430 entire portfolio They can go 3405 02:03:48,430 --> 02:03:51,679 all the way up to and including 3406 02:03:51,679 --> 02:03:52,381 telling us to empty the entire 3407 02:03:52,381 --> 02:03:54,381 reservoir and emptying 3408 02:03:56,451 --> 02:03:57,219 the entire reservoir could 3409 02:03:57,219 --> 02:03:57,986 result in some of the very fire 3410 02:03:57,986 --> 02:03:59,540 risks that we're hearing nearby 3411 02:03:59,540 --> 02:04:01,540 residents express concerns 3412 02:04:04,526 --> 02:04:06,526 about fire risk. 3413 02:04:09,331 --> 02:04:09,998 So it has so I think we want to 3414 02:04:09,998 --> 02:04:10,732 separate the entire issue in 3415 02:04:10,732 --> 02:04:14,102 regards to fire risk in regards 3416 02:04:14,102 --> 02:04:15,200 to the level of the reservoir 3417 02:04:15,200 --> 02:04:19,202 as it is right now we have 3418 02:04:19,241 --> 02:04:19,975 the capability to pull from 3419 02:04:19,975 --> 02:04:20,576 the reservoirs and I'm going to 3420 02:04:20,576 --> 02:04:20,943 have Chief Deputy Chief 3421 02:04:20,943 --> 02:04:22,943 Brainard. 3422 02:04:24,146 --> 02:04:24,879 He is here from the Fire Safety 3423 02:04:24,879 --> 02:04:28,479 Fire Department and he can help 3424 02:04:28,684 --> 02:04:29,551 add any information on to that. 3425 02:04:29,551 --> 02:04:30,252 I do not believe that anything 3426 02:04:30,252 --> 02:04:33,852 about the level of the dam 3427 02:04:34,389 --> 02:04:37,389 impacts or increases that fire 3428 02:04:38,359 --> 02:04:39,128 risk but we can ask that 3429 02:04:39,128 --> 02:04:39,727 question to you Would you like 3430 02:04:39,727 --> 02:04:40,529 me to have them come up? 3431 02:04:40,529 --> 02:04:42,899 >> Well yes, I think that's 3432 02:04:42,899 --> 02:04:43,499 relevant If if a consequence of 3433 02:04:43,499 --> 02:04:45,899 not performing the state 3434 02:04:47,636 --> 02:04:50,636 mandated actions were to be 3435 02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:53,108 that the city had to empty Lake 3436 02:04:53,108 --> 02:04:56,108 Hodges, would that create an 3437 02:05:00,482 --> 02:05:02,482 additional fire risk? 3438 02:05:07,156 --> 02:05:07,857 But good afternoon Brant 3439 02:05:07,857 --> 02:05:10,857 Brenner I'm here for Assistant 3440 02:05:11,727 --> 02:05:12,610 Chief Eddy That's a fire 3441 02:05:12,610 --> 02:05:12,728 rescue. 3442 02:05:12,728 --> 02:05:15,464 We take all matters of fire 3443 02:05:15,464 --> 02:05:16,265 safety seriously and we from 3444 02:05:16,265 --> 02:05:16,899 all the way from the border all 3445 02:05:16,899 --> 02:05:18,834 the way up to Lake Hodges 3446 02:05:18,834 --> 02:05:19,902 anywhere where there's any type 3447 02:05:19,902 --> 02:05:23,502 of wildfire risk we take very 3448 02:05:24,140 --> 02:05:25,410 seriously. 3449 02:05:25,410 --> 02:05:28,641 >> So I guess the question is 3450 02:05:28,778 --> 02:05:29,444 in regards to specifically if 3451 02:05:29,444 --> 02:05:32,444 the dam was eliminated, that 3452 02:05:34,383 --> 02:05:35,117 removes one source of water in 3453 02:05:35,117 --> 02:05:35,451 regards to pulling from is that 3454 02:05:35,451 --> 02:05:37,451 correct? 3455 02:05:39,422 --> 02:05:40,121 Our helicopters as far as so 3456 02:05:40,121 --> 02:05:42,391 any of the dams or anything we 3457 02:05:42,391 --> 02:05:42,992 pull out we could pull from up 3458 02:05:42,992 --> 02:05:43,659 to two feet of water. 3459 02:05:43,659 --> 02:05:46,659 I just confirmed with my 3460 02:05:47,630 --> 02:05:47,830 helicopter crew chief that on 3461 02:05:47,830 --> 02:05:48,631 duty today our crews can pull 3462 02:05:48,631 --> 02:05:51,631 from everything from ponds to 3463 02:05:52,335 --> 02:05:53,100 anything and they near as 3464 02:05:53,100 --> 02:05:53,302 little as two feet of water. 3465 02:05:53,302 --> 02:05:55,302 Okay. 3466 02:05:56,872 --> 02:05:57,607 So that's I understand how 3467 02:05:57,607 --> 02:06:00,607 you're hearing the question but 3468 02:06:01,711 --> 02:06:02,311 let me restate the question and 3469 02:06:02,311 --> 02:06:03,120 in a different way We're 3470 02:06:03,120 --> 02:06:05,412 talking about approving these 3471 02:06:06,681 --> 02:06:07,417 contracts and I'm asking about 3472 02:06:07,417 --> 02:06:09,817 the consequence of not 3473 02:06:11,454 --> 02:06:12,221 approving them. 3474 02:06:12,221 --> 02:06:12,822 And you're saying that what are 3475 02:06:12,822 --> 02:06:15,222 the consequences of not 3476 02:06:16,326 --> 02:06:18,726 approving the contracts Could 3477 02:06:21,231 --> 02:06:21,964 be that and not conducting 3478 02:06:21,964 --> 02:06:24,964 these state mandated actions on 3479 02:06:26,690 --> 02:06:26,703 Lake Hodges Dam could be that 3480 02:06:26,703 --> 02:06:29,703 the state could order Lake 3481 02:06:30,907 --> 02:06:31,774 Hodges to be drained. 3482 02:06:31,774 --> 02:06:35,974 And my question is if we were 3483 02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:39,644 to drain Lake Hodges and leave 3484 02:06:40,650 --> 02:06:41,351 that landscape, is that not 3485 02:06:41,351 --> 02:06:41,718 fire fuel that would be 3486 02:06:41,718 --> 02:06:42,218 dangerous. 3487 02:06:42,218 --> 02:06:44,218 >> Maybe it's not. 3488 02:06:45,622 --> 02:06:46,322 But that's my question If 3489 02:06:46,322 --> 02:06:47,190 anywhere where there's a know 3490 02:06:47,190 --> 02:06:50,790 urban interface or any type of 3491 02:06:51,361 --> 02:06:52,280 wildfire brush or anything like 3492 02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:52,662 that, we will we're going to 3493 02:06:52,662 --> 02:06:54,998 treat exactly the same and 3494 02:06:54,998 --> 02:06:55,732 we'll aggressively attack with 3495 02:06:55,732 --> 02:06:56,399 all of our partner agencies 3496 02:06:56,399 --> 02:06:57,330 throughout San Diego County. 3497 02:06:57,330 --> 02:06:59,969 We'll have a joint unified 3498 02:06:59,969 --> 02:07:00,904 response. 3499 02:07:00,904 --> 02:07:01,604 But I think in regards to your 3500 02:07:01,604 --> 02:07:05,175 comment in regards to if we're 3501 02:07:05,175 --> 02:07:05,875 trying to address as it relates 3502 02:07:05,875 --> 02:07:08,875 to fire safety obviously also 3503 02:07:09,746 --> 02:07:10,213 dams are also used as 3504 02:07:10,213 --> 02:07:11,140 firebreaks too. 3505 02:07:11,140 --> 02:07:14,517 And so if there's no water in 3506 02:07:14,517 --> 02:07:15,223 there that is going to have a 3507 02:07:15,223 --> 02:07:18,823 problem in regards to fire as 3508 02:07:19,550 --> 02:07:19,856 it is right now whether or not 3509 02:07:19,856 --> 02:07:22,256 it's to 80 versus 295, those 3510 02:07:23,158 --> 02:07:24,270 are different conversations. 3511 02:07:24,270 --> 02:07:24,594 But if you have nothing there, 3512 02:07:24,594 --> 02:07:25,295 there's no dead pull. 3513 02:07:25,295 --> 02:07:27,695 There's nothing there that's 3514 02:07:28,498 --> 02:07:29,990 going to have impacts in 3515 02:07:29,990 --> 02:07:31,499 regards to fire safety. 3516 02:07:33,336 --> 02:07:34,204 Yes, it is. 3517 02:07:34,204 --> 02:07:34,838 But that is why these dam 3518 02:07:34,838 --> 02:07:35,472 services contracts are so 3519 02:07:35,472 --> 02:07:37,872 important because if we're 3520 02:07:37,874 --> 02:07:38,608 trying to at least maintain 3521 02:07:38,608 --> 02:07:42,145 what we have right now, then we 3522 02:07:42,145 --> 02:07:42,512 want to do these contracts. 3523 02:07:42,512 --> 02:07:42,913 Okay. 3524 02:07:42,913 --> 02:07:44,913 Thank you. 3525 02:07:47,517 --> 02:07:47,884 That concludes my questions. 3526 02:07:47,884 --> 02:07:48,285 All right. 3527 02:07:48,285 --> 02:07:48,885 Thank you. 3528 02:07:48,885 --> 02:07:50,885 Council member Whitburn. 3529 02:07:52,422 --> 02:07:56,220 We'll go next to Council member 3530 02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:57,861 Campbell My gosh, I didn't I, I 3531 02:07:57,861 --> 02:08:00,861 thank you very much for 3532 02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:02,699 the presentation. 3533 02:08:02,699 --> 02:08:03,433 I think it's very important 3534 02:08:03,433 --> 02:08:06,433 that we approve this especially 3535 02:08:06,703 --> 02:08:07,537 as is mandated by the state. 3536 02:08:07,537 --> 02:08:08,405 I wish that the state would pay 3537 02:08:08,405 --> 02:08:12,500 for whatever it mandates but it 3538 02:08:12,108 --> 02:08:15,708 doesn't And so I will move 3539 02:08:17,214 --> 02:08:17,526 the staff's recommendation. 3540 02:08:17,526 --> 02:08:17,915 Okay. 3541 02:08:17,915 --> 02:08:18,315 Thank you. 3542 02:08:18,315 --> 02:08:18,949 All right. 3543 02:08:18,949 --> 02:08:19,316 Thank you, Council member 3544 02:08:19,316 --> 02:08:21,316 Campbell. 3545 02:08:21,952 --> 02:08:22,586 So we do have a motion to move 3546 02:08:22,586 --> 02:08:23,253 the staff recommendation. 3547 02:08:23,253 --> 02:08:26,253 >> We'll go next to council 3548 02:08:26,256 --> 02:08:26,657 member Von Wolpert. 3549 02:08:26,657 --> 02:08:27,357 Thank you. 3550 02:08:27,357 --> 02:08:30,357 Thank you for the presentation 3551 02:08:31,962 --> 02:08:32,629 today on our dams program and 3552 02:08:32,629 --> 02:08:33,630 thank you for answering all 3553 02:08:33,630 --> 02:08:35,630 the questions. 3554 02:08:36,667 --> 02:08:37,400 I also want to thank Rhonda and 3555 02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:37,800 friend Hodges and everybody for 3556 02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:38,535 being here. 3557 02:08:38,535 --> 02:08:39,169 Thank you for coming down today 3558 02:08:39,169 --> 02:08:41,705 and for being engaged with 3559 02:08:41,705 --> 02:08:42,539 the whole process. 3560 02:08:42,539 --> 02:08:45,539 My incredible policy advisor aj 3561 02:08:46,642 --> 02:08:47,344 Baker has been wonderful in 3562 02:08:47,344 --> 02:08:48,440 making sure that the community 3563 02:08:48,440 --> 02:08:50,414 is involved in this discussion 3564 02:08:50,414 --> 02:08:51,115 because as you said when 3565 02:08:51,115 --> 02:08:54,115 the lake water diminishes that 3566 02:08:55,719 --> 02:08:56,253 leads to an explosion in an 3567 02:08:56,253 --> 02:08:57,254 growth of brush. 3568 02:08:57,254 --> 02:08:59,823 You know when I was a kid and 3569 02:08:59,823 --> 02:09:00,557 you drove in the 15 freeway up 3570 02:09:00,557 --> 02:09:01,124 to the North County fair that's 3571 02:09:01,124 --> 02:09:01,859 what I still call it. 3572 02:09:01,859 --> 02:09:04,528 You can see water on both sides 3573 02:09:04,528 --> 02:09:05,329 of the 15 freeway and that's 3574 02:09:05,329 --> 02:09:08,532 what we grew up with And we 3575 02:09:08,532 --> 02:09:09,300 were used to with Lake Hodges. 3576 02:09:09,300 --> 02:09:10,000 I understand this dam was built 3577 02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:10,568 before women had the right to 3578 02:09:10,568 --> 02:09:12,968 vote in this country. 3579 02:09:13,837 --> 02:09:14,171 I do understand how old this 3580 02:09:14,171 --> 02:09:15,105 dam is. 3581 02:09:15,105 --> 02:09:18,809 At the same time we are now 3582 02:09:18,809 --> 02:09:19,577 aware that this is the most 3583 02:09:19,577 --> 02:09:23,177 failing dam in the state of 3584 02:09:23,447 --> 02:09:24,140 California and so we have to do 3585 02:09:24,140 --> 02:09:26,140 something about this. 3586 02:09:27,918 --> 02:09:28,586 My first question is where is 3587 02:09:28,586 --> 02:09:30,986 the county water authority? 3588 02:09:35,926 --> 02:09:36,694 Are they paying for any of this 3589 02:09:36,694 --> 02:09:37,394 75 million over ten years Are 3590 02:09:37,394 --> 02:09:40,394 they going to be contributing 3591 02:09:40,998 --> 02:09:41,699 to the repair of Lake Hodges 3592 02:09:41,699 --> 02:09:41,999 because this is half their 3593 02:09:41,999 --> 02:09:42,600 asset. 3594 02:09:42,600 --> 02:09:45,000 So two different things. 3595 02:09:46,170 --> 02:09:49,770 So if we're looking at any 3596 02:09:50,775 --> 02:09:51,642 project that is for maintenance 3597 02:09:51,642 --> 02:09:52,420 activity is it is our belief at 3598 02:09:52,420 --> 02:09:54,420 Lake Hodges. 3599 02:09:54,612 --> 02:09:55,312 So remember the 75 million for 3600 02:09:55,312 --> 02:09:56,180 each of these contracts is for 3601 02:09:56,180 --> 02:09:59,750 all of our entire dam portfolio 3602 02:09:59,750 --> 02:10:00,384 If it is associated with Hodges 3603 02:10:00,384 --> 02:10:00,718 they do have a cost share 3604 02:10:00,718 --> 02:10:02,718 measure. 3605 02:10:04,622 --> 02:10:05,155 They are responsible for 50% of 3606 02:10:05,155 --> 02:10:07,555 the cost they have. 3607 02:10:08,993 --> 02:10:09,594 As a reminder though they have 3608 02:10:09,594 --> 02:10:10,327 told us if it's the full 3609 02:10:10,327 --> 02:10:13,327 replacement they do not believe 3610 02:10:14,231 --> 02:10:14,932 that they have are required to 3611 02:10:14,932 --> 02:10:15,533 pay for that And that is 3612 02:10:15,533 --> 02:10:17,533 different than our 3613 02:10:20,138 --> 02:10:20,438 understanding. 3614 02:10:20,438 --> 02:10:21,380 Okay. 3615 02:10:21,380 --> 02:10:21,706 Interim we'll get to 3616 02:10:21,706 --> 02:10:24,575 the replacement in a second. 3617 02:10:24,575 --> 02:10:25,276 But in terms of this item today 3618 02:10:25,276 --> 02:10:25,977 to approve you know our rate 3619 02:10:25,977 --> 02:10:29,547 payers will be paying for this 3620 02:10:29,547 --> 02:10:30,148 our rate payers plus So in this 3621 02:10:30,148 --> 02:10:30,882 specifically for this 75 3622 02:10:30,882 --> 02:10:33,882 million for these two contracts 3623 02:10:34,152 --> 02:10:34,752 if the work is for Lake Hodges 3624 02:10:34,752 --> 02:10:35,353 like we're talking about 3625 02:10:35,353 --> 02:10:37,753 the risk reduction risk 3626 02:10:38,990 --> 02:10:39,691 reduction reduction measures 3627 02:10:39,691 --> 02:10:40,240 they would be paying their 50% 3628 02:10:40,240 --> 02:10:40,290 of that. 3629 02:10:40,290 --> 02:10:40,591 Yes. 3630 02:10:40,591 --> 02:10:42,591 Okay. 3631 02:10:43,461 --> 02:10:44,128 And the county water authority 3632 02:10:44,128 --> 02:10:44,896 has agreed to do this. 3633 02:10:44,896 --> 02:10:45,630 Are they protesting this or it 3634 02:10:45,630 --> 02:10:48,630 is not understanding that they 3635 02:10:48,633 --> 02:10:49,233 would be protesting that they 3636 02:10:49,233 --> 02:10:49,901 would only be protesting 3637 02:10:49,901 --> 02:10:52,901 the full replacement is our 3638 02:10:53,137 --> 02:10:53,538 understanding. 3639 02:10:53,538 --> 02:10:55,538 Okay. 3640 02:10:57,108 --> 02:10:57,475 I'll get to the full replace in 3641 02:10:57,475 --> 02:10:58,142 a second. 3642 02:10:58,142 --> 02:11:01,412 But in terms of the current 3643 02:11:01,412 --> 02:11:02,146 state of the dam right now 3644 02:11:02,146 --> 02:11:02,813 the city has been doing repairs 3645 02:11:02,813 --> 02:11:05,813 on Lake Hodges because we've 3646 02:11:06,751 --> 02:11:07,485 been ordered to so has 3647 02:11:07,485 --> 02:11:08,119 the County Water Authority paid 3648 02:11:08,119 --> 02:11:08,453 their fair share of those 3649 02:11:08,453 --> 02:11:10,453 repairs? 3650 02:11:10,621 --> 02:11:12,621 Yes. 3651 02:11:15,593 --> 02:11:16,728 And how much have they paid? 3652 02:11:16,728 --> 02:11:19,597 I would have to get back to you 3653 02:11:19,597 --> 02:11:20,432 in regards to that one. 3654 02:11:20,432 --> 02:11:23,368 I'd have to get back to you. 3655 02:11:23,368 --> 02:11:23,968 But they have been paying their 3656 02:11:23,968 --> 02:11:24,369 50% of all of ours. 3657 02:11:24,369 --> 02:11:26,369 >> Okay. 3658 02:11:27,539 --> 02:11:28,306 I would love to know how much 3659 02:11:28,306 --> 02:11:28,640 they have it contributing going 3660 02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:30,640 forward. 3661 02:11:32,610 --> 02:11:33,311 So if they're paying half of 3662 02:11:33,311 --> 02:11:36,911 the bill and we are currently 3663 02:11:37,448 --> 02:11:38,183 being ordered to do mandated 3664 02:11:38,183 --> 02:11:38,917 repairs by the State Department 3665 02:11:38,917 --> 02:11:39,250 of dam safety, why is it taking 3666 02:11:39,250 --> 02:11:41,250 so long? 3667 02:11:42,988 --> 02:11:43,455 We were supposed to get back 3668 02:11:43,455 --> 02:11:44,122 the options from 3669 02:11:44,122 --> 02:11:46,122 the geotechnical scientists 3670 02:11:47,524 --> 02:11:48,293 this summer and now it's pushed 3671 02:11:48,293 --> 02:11:51,293 back to DECEMBER of 2026, is 3672 02:11:51,997 --> 02:11:52,764 that correct? 3673 02:11:52,764 --> 02:11:53,265 Yes, we are expecting it by 3674 02:11:53,265 --> 02:11:53,532 DECEMBER of 2026. 3675 02:11:53,532 --> 02:11:54,366 Yes. 3676 02:11:54,366 --> 02:11:57,302 But we were expecting it this 3677 02:11:57,302 --> 02:11:57,601 summer. 3678 02:11:57,601 --> 02:11:58,370 Yeah. 3679 02:11:58,370 --> 02:11:59,104 Kelly, if you want to add 3680 02:11:59,104 --> 02:11:59,838 anything in regards to Kelly or 3681 02:11:59,838 --> 02:12:02,390 Tiffany, if you want to add 3682 02:12:02,390 --> 02:12:02,473 anything in regards to 3683 02:12:02,473 --> 02:12:02,774 the timeline. 3684 02:12:02,774 --> 02:12:04,774 Yeah. 3685 02:12:06,411 --> 02:12:07,112 Thank you. 3686 02:12:07,112 --> 02:12:07,845 So there's a number of 3687 02:12:07,845 --> 02:12:10,845 technical analyzes that we must 3688 02:12:11,820 --> 02:12:11,650 complete to come to a 3689 02:12:11,650 --> 02:12:12,250 recommendation for an 3690 02:12:12,250 --> 02:12:14,650 alternative to full dam 3691 02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:16,788 replacement for Hodges And 3692 02:12:16,788 --> 02:12:17,155 those technical analyzes take 3693 02:12:17,155 --> 02:12:19,155 some time. 3694 02:12:21,226 --> 02:12:21,827 So we do expect that we're 3695 02:12:21,827 --> 02:12:22,594 going to need more time. 3696 02:12:22,594 --> 02:12:26,931 So the end of the year is when 3697 02:12:26,931 --> 02:12:27,599 we expect to have a 3698 02:12:27,599 --> 02:12:28,300 recommendation on what we're 3699 02:12:28,300 --> 02:12:28,600 doing with Hodges in the long 3700 02:12:28,600 --> 02:12:28,900 term. 3701 02:12:28,900 --> 02:12:30,900 Okay. 3702 02:12:31,870 --> 02:12:32,438 Here we hired an outside 3703 02:12:32,438 --> 02:12:33,400 contractor to do this 3704 02:12:33,400 --> 02:12:33,639 recommendation for us. 3705 02:12:33,639 --> 02:12:36,639 Yes, We currently have gbi 3706 02:12:36,741 --> 02:12:37,750 doing the alternatives analysis 3707 02:12:37,750 --> 02:12:37,376 for us. 3708 02:12:37,376 --> 02:12:39,376 Okay. 3709 02:12:41,914 --> 02:12:42,581 So then I'd like an explanation 3710 02:12:42,581 --> 02:12:43,490 from them also why this is 3711 02:12:43,490 --> 02:12:45,490 taking so long. 3712 02:12:46,552 --> 02:12:47,252 Are they not working on it? 3713 02:12:47,252 --> 02:12:47,953 Do they have other projects? 3714 02:12:47,953 --> 02:12:51,322 I mean this is the highest 3715 02:12:51,322 --> 02:12:51,990 rated failure safety dam in 3716 02:12:51,990 --> 02:12:52,724 the state of California and 3717 02:12:52,724 --> 02:12:56,428 they have been working on it in 3718 02:12:56,428 --> 02:12:57,329 regards to some of the issues 3719 02:12:57,329 --> 02:13:01,529 Is that so every time that we 3720 02:13:01,667 --> 02:13:02,534 have to do anything in regards 3721 02:13:02,534 --> 02:13:06,734 to Hodges we want to make sure 3722 02:13:07,172 --> 02:13:07,539 we're doing our entirely due 3723 02:13:07,539 --> 02:13:08,730 diligence. 3724 02:13:08,730 --> 02:13:08,874 The state is one of 3725 02:13:08,874 --> 02:13:12,378 the assessments that do is on 3726 02:13:12,378 --> 02:13:12,878 the concrete itself cannot 3727 02:13:12,878 --> 02:13:13,512 withstand whatever 3728 02:13:13,512 --> 02:13:13,812 recommendations that we're 3729 02:13:13,812 --> 02:13:14,445 doing. 3730 02:13:14,445 --> 02:13:16,845 So then there's different 3731 02:13:18,250 --> 02:13:19,180 modeling on that. 3732 02:13:19,180 --> 02:13:19,718 I think the expectation was is 3733 02:13:19,718 --> 02:13:20,419 that we went with a shorter 3734 02:13:20,419 --> 02:13:22,819 timeline because we're trying 3735 02:13:22,955 --> 02:13:23,656 to push through and then each 3736 02:13:23,656 --> 02:13:24,290 thing we're trying to identify 3737 02:13:24,290 --> 02:13:26,825 does take us a little bit 3738 02:13:26,825 --> 02:13:27,626 longer and we want to make sure 3739 02:13:27,626 --> 02:13:28,326 we've done all of our due 3740 02:13:28,326 --> 02:13:28,861 diligence so that way when we 3741 02:13:28,861 --> 02:13:31,261 get into design and 3742 02:13:32,498 --> 02:13:33,980 construction we don't identify 3743 02:13:33,980 --> 02:13:33,565 things that pushed that 3744 02:13:33,565 --> 02:13:35,565 timeline around. 3745 02:13:38,471 --> 02:13:39,338 >> Okay, got it. 3746 02:13:39,338 --> 02:13:40,380 I have a request for next time 3747 02:13:40,380 --> 02:13:40,773 we hear a dam's updated api or 3748 02:13:40,773 --> 02:13:42,508 they can be bringing an 3749 02:13:42,508 --> 02:13:43,700 engineer as well. 3750 02:13:43,700 --> 02:13:43,709 We're paying them. 3751 02:13:43,709 --> 02:13:46,378 They should be here answering 3752 02:13:46,378 --> 02:13:48,778 our questions about what's 3753 02:13:51,584 --> 02:13:52,451 going on with the dam. 3754 02:13:52,451 --> 02:13:53,850 I was also asking a lot of 3755 02:13:53,850 --> 02:13:55,485 questions about how we're 3756 02:13:56,254 --> 02:13:56,921 communicating with our 3757 02:13:56,921 --> 02:13:57,656 residents at the committee 3758 02:13:57,656 --> 02:14:00,656 because the fire increased fire 3759 02:14:01,994 --> 02:14:02,861 risk is real. 3760 02:14:02,861 --> 02:14:03,529 Chief Eddy who I know can't be 3761 02:14:03,529 --> 02:14:06,529 here today actually lived in 3762 02:14:07,233 --> 02:14:07,933 the community and we received 3763 02:14:07,933 --> 02:14:08,601 over $1 million grant from 3764 02:14:08,601 --> 02:14:09,301 the state of California from 3765 02:14:09,301 --> 02:14:11,301 Assemblymember Joshua Patel's 3766 02:14:12,473 --> 02:14:13,380 office because the increased 3767 02:14:13,380 --> 02:14:13,773 fire threat because of 3768 02:14:13,773 --> 02:14:17,373 the brush growth when the water 3769 02:14:17,977 --> 02:14:18,678 went down has exponentially 3770 02:14:18,678 --> 02:14:19,345 increased fire concern in a 3771 02:14:19,345 --> 02:14:21,745 community that already lost 3772 02:14:23,349 --> 02:14:23,882 their homes and this is not a 3773 02:14:23,882 --> 02:14:24,617 theoretical concern. 3774 02:14:24,617 --> 02:14:25,351 This was where the Bridge Creek 3775 02:14:25,351 --> 02:14:27,686 fire went through And so you're 3776 02:14:27,686 --> 02:14:28,286 hearing from people who've 3777 02:14:28,286 --> 02:14:28,621 watched their homes burn 3778 02:14:28,621 --> 02:14:30,621 before. 3779 02:14:33,359 --> 02:14:34,930 And so my question is if 3780 02:14:34,930 --> 02:14:34,794 the Department of Dam Safety is 3781 02:14:34,794 --> 02:14:35,461 not going to allow us to raise 3782 02:14:35,461 --> 02:14:38,461 the water level which would 3783 02:14:38,798 --> 02:14:39,531 then flood some of the brush, 3784 02:14:39,531 --> 02:14:39,965 what is our plan going to be 3785 02:14:39,965 --> 02:14:40,700 going forward? 3786 02:14:40,700 --> 02:14:43,936 I know we have the million 3787 02:14:43,936 --> 02:14:44,637 dollar grant this year to do 3788 02:14:44,637 --> 02:14:45,338 extensive brush management and 3789 02:14:45,338 --> 02:14:45,805 get some of the native plants 3790 02:14:45,805 --> 02:14:48,205 out of the area. 3791 02:14:48,841 --> 02:14:49,308 But what about next year or 3792 02:14:49,308 --> 02:14:50,420 the year after? 3793 02:14:50,420 --> 02:14:54,242 And so you know Deputy Chief, I 3794 02:14:54,246 --> 02:14:54,914 know that you just had to fill 3795 02:14:54,914 --> 02:14:55,281 in today since he's not 3796 02:14:55,281 --> 02:14:55,948 available. 3797 02:14:55,948 --> 02:14:58,651 But my question for the fire 3798 02:14:58,651 --> 02:14:59,285 department is going forward, 3799 02:14:59,285 --> 02:14:59,786 can we have more involved 3800 02:14:59,786 --> 02:15:01,786 conversations with 3801 02:15:02,355 --> 02:15:03,550 the community about what to do 3802 02:15:03,550 --> 02:15:05,455 about this increased brush 3803 02:15:08,428 --> 02:15:09,195 management issues? 3804 02:15:09,195 --> 02:15:12,195 Yes, we can do that. 3805 02:15:13,399 --> 02:15:14,133 I can get in touch with Chief 3806 02:15:14,133 --> 02:15:14,834 Tasker to talk about the brush 3807 02:15:14,834 --> 02:15:15,235 management area and we can get 3808 02:15:15,235 --> 02:15:15,567 back to you. 3809 02:15:15,567 --> 02:15:15,935 >> Okay. 3810 02:15:15,935 --> 02:15:17,935 Thank you. 3811 02:15:18,238 --> 02:15:18,972 And I know that you know we're 3812 02:15:18,972 --> 02:15:19,639 currently waiting on our second 3813 02:15:19,639 --> 02:15:22,639 wildfire helicopter to get a 3814 02:15:24,420 --> 02:15:24,777 new part in which takes an 3815 02:15:24,777 --> 02:15:27,777 abnormally long amount of time. 3816 02:15:30,650 --> 02:15:31,170 But are we able to get a rock 3817 02:15:31,170 --> 02:15:31,684 up there? 3818 02:15:31,684 --> 02:15:32,351 Copter three if we need to 3819 02:15:32,351 --> 02:15:32,685 delay charges at this point? 3820 02:15:32,685 --> 02:15:34,685 Oh, yes. 3821 02:15:35,855 --> 02:15:36,522 Okay. 3822 02:15:36,522 --> 02:15:37,157 >> Three is in service. 3823 02:15:37,157 --> 02:15:37,457 Couple three is in service 3824 02:15:37,457 --> 02:15:37,757 today. 3825 02:15:37,757 --> 02:15:38,910 Okay. 3826 02:15:38,910 --> 02:15:38,825 Got it. 3827 02:15:38,825 --> 02:15:41,270 And then Cal Fire is able to 3828 02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:41,695 bring in on a more regular 3829 02:15:41,695 --> 02:15:42,395 basis when we are much more 3830 02:15:42,395 --> 02:15:42,729 prepared than we were in 2007, 3831 02:15:42,729 --> 02:15:44,729 correct? 3832 02:15:46,990 --> 02:15:46,700 Absolutely Are interagency 3833 02:15:46,700 --> 02:15:49,100 think they obviously are 3834 02:15:50,602 --> 02:15:51,304 coordination between Cal fire 3835 02:15:51,304 --> 02:15:52,138 all of our partners between us 3836 02:15:52,138 --> 02:15:55,942 can do to register fire and all 3837 02:15:55,942 --> 02:15:56,743 the surrounding jurisdictions 3838 02:15:56,743 --> 02:15:57,711 it has never been better right 3839 02:15:57,711 --> 02:16:01,948 now our Cal fire if I were to 3840 02:16:01,948 --> 02:16:02,649 as the commander recall for 3841 02:16:02,649 --> 02:16:03,490 fixing their package we could 3842 02:16:03,490 --> 02:16:03,750 bring it in. 3843 02:16:03,750 --> 02:16:07,621 I can keep bringing in as many 3844 02:16:07,621 --> 02:16:08,221 resources as necessary to 3845 02:16:08,221 --> 02:16:08,588 mitigate any incident as 3846 02:16:08,588 --> 02:16:09,322 possible. 3847 02:16:09,322 --> 02:16:13,260 This okay And cal fire of their 3848 02:16:13,260 --> 02:16:14,600 planes can dip in Lake Hodges 3849 02:16:14,600 --> 02:16:14,927 to correct I'm not I don't have 3850 02:16:14,927 --> 02:16:18,432 it that I'm not aware of their 3851 02:16:18,432 --> 02:16:19,266 capabilities with that correct 3852 02:16:19,266 --> 02:16:19,733 I could find out for you We can 3853 02:16:19,733 --> 02:16:20,330 get back to you. 3854 02:16:20,330 --> 02:16:20,400 Okay. 3855 02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:21,134 Thank you. 3856 02:16:21,134 --> 02:16:24,700 I think we just we need to have 3857 02:16:24,700 --> 02:16:24,738 a better conversation with 3858 02:16:24,738 --> 02:16:25,438 the committee members about 3859 02:16:25,438 --> 02:16:26,139 this because it is alarming to 3860 02:16:26,139 --> 02:16:29,139 see the exponential growth in 3861 02:16:29,443 --> 02:16:29,943 brush which is a result of 3862 02:16:29,943 --> 02:16:31,943 the lake lowering. 3863 02:16:34,381 --> 02:16:35,820 So thank you and thank you for 3864 02:16:35,820 --> 02:16:35,749 filling in for Chief Eddie. 3865 02:16:35,749 --> 02:16:36,480 I appreciate you being here 3866 02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:38,480 today. 3867 02:16:39,353 --> 02:16:40,530 I have one more question about 3868 02:16:40,530 --> 02:16:40,554 communication with our office 3869 02:16:40,554 --> 02:16:42,554 and our residents. 3870 02:16:44,791 --> 02:16:45,524 I have been asking for the city 3871 02:16:45,524 --> 02:16:46,159 in the Department of Dam Safety 3872 02:16:46,159 --> 02:16:48,559 to have a meaningful 3873 02:16:49,763 --> 02:16:50,397 conversation about whether we 3874 02:16:50,397 --> 02:16:51,980 can raise the water level 3875 02:16:51,980 --> 02:16:54,698 because we now know that we're 3876 02:16:55,302 --> 02:16:55,968 not going to be able to replace 3877 02:16:55,968 --> 02:16:56,637 this dam as quickly as we 3878 02:16:56,637 --> 02:16:57,170 wanted to because the County 3879 02:16:57,170 --> 02:16:59,170 Water Authority has 3880 02:17:00,206 --> 02:17:01,700 unilaterally decided they do 3881 02:17:01,700 --> 02:17:01,341 not have to share the cost 3882 02:17:01,341 --> 02:17:02,420 anymore. 3883 02:17:02,420 --> 02:17:05,642 >> One I hope we're getting a 3884 02:17:06,130 --> 02:17:06,413 legal opinion on that. 3885 02:17:06,413 --> 02:17:06,813 Okay. 3886 02:17:06,813 --> 02:17:07,181 All right. 3887 02:17:07,181 --> 02:17:08,480 Thank you. 3888 02:17:08,480 --> 02:17:11,184 We should be getting legal but 3889 02:17:11,184 --> 02:17:11,884 now that second, our 3890 02:17:11,884 --> 02:17:14,284 constituents have been rightly 3891 02:17:16,390 --> 02:17:17,570 asking what we're going to do 3892 02:17:17,570 --> 02:17:17,858 about this in the meantime. 3893 02:17:17,858 --> 02:17:18,459 So I wrote a letter last JULY 3894 02:17:18,459 --> 02:17:20,859 to the secretary of 3895 02:17:22,696 --> 02:17:23,362 the California Natural 3896 02:17:23,362 --> 02:17:24,970 Resources Agency, Secretary 3897 02:17:24,970 --> 02:17:27,697 Crawford asking for this ody to 3898 02:17:28,235 --> 02:17:28,968 work with Cal Fire to determine 3899 02:17:28,968 --> 02:17:29,703 if the risk of the dam breaking 3900 02:17:29,703 --> 02:17:33,903 is greater at this point or her 3901 02:17:34,508 --> 02:17:35,242 life and safety of the risk of 3902 02:17:35,242 --> 02:17:35,843 a wildfire resulting because of 3903 02:17:35,843 --> 02:17:36,477 the lower water levels. 3904 02:17:36,477 --> 02:17:37,511 And nobody has answered my 3905 02:17:37,511 --> 02:17:38,212 question I've asked our state 3906 02:17:38,212 --> 02:17:40,612 assembly members, our state 3907 02:17:44,118 --> 02:17:44,785 senators and then this morning 3908 02:17:44,785 --> 02:17:45,586 we received an email that my 3909 02:17:45,586 --> 02:17:48,586 office is not included on 3910 02:17:48,989 --> 02:17:49,690 the from a gentleman who is 3911 02:17:49,690 --> 02:17:52,900 the public affairs California 3912 02:17:55,362 --> 02:17:56,960 Department of Water Resources 3913 02:17:56,960 --> 02:17:56,763 Public Affairs office situation 3914 02:17:56,763 --> 02:17:57,498 in the in which he has been 3915 02:17:57,498 --> 02:17:59,898 explaining to constituents that 3916 02:18:00,901 --> 02:18:01,602 this dam is so dangerous that 3917 02:18:01,602 --> 02:18:05,202 not only are we required to 3918 02:18:07,141 --> 02:18:07,774 lower the water level at 3919 02:18:07,774 --> 02:18:10,774 because of a seismic event 3920 02:18:11,912 --> 02:18:12,580 because of an earthquake but in 3921 02:18:12,580 --> 02:18:13,214 2023 we discovered that a 3922 02:18:13,214 --> 02:18:13,881 concrete deterioration has 3923 02:18:13,881 --> 02:18:16,881 progressed to such a state. 3924 02:18:17,651 --> 02:18:18,519 The Department of Dam Safety 3925 02:18:18,519 --> 02:18:19,186 has determined the dam to be an 3926 02:18:19,186 --> 02:18:19,854 unacceptable condition that 3927 02:18:19,854 --> 02:18:20,521 could lead to failure under 3928 02:18:20,521 --> 02:18:22,921 normal or static conditions 3929 02:18:24,692 --> 02:18:25,292 meaning right now the dam could 3930 02:18:25,292 --> 02:18:26,270 fail and Council Working 3931 02:18:26,270 --> 02:18:28,996 Appeals Office insisted on this 3932 02:18:28,996 --> 02:18:29,864 email that my office was not 3933 02:18:29,864 --> 02:18:30,601 And so I'm just asking I have 3934 02:18:30,601 --> 02:18:33,601 been begging this department to 3935 02:18:36,360 --> 02:18:36,737 give communication to me and my 3936 02:18:36,737 --> 02:18:37,404 residents who come all the way 3937 02:18:37,404 --> 02:18:40,908 down here and why can I not 3938 02:18:40,908 --> 02:18:41,208 technically be sitting on an 3939 02:18:41,208 --> 02:18:43,208 email? 3940 02:18:47,315 --> 02:18:47,982 I just we're very frustrated. 3941 02:18:47,982 --> 02:18:48,683 Whangarei Public Utilities 3942 02:18:48,683 --> 02:18:49,417 Director Council member Yvonne 3943 02:18:49,417 --> 02:18:53,170 Walker I just want to apologize 3944 02:18:53,887 --> 02:18:54,555 to you for not including you on 3945 02:18:54,555 --> 02:18:55,256 those conversations earlier. 3946 02:18:55,256 --> 02:18:55,957 It was a request from d seven 3947 02:18:55,957 --> 02:18:58,325 and we're being responsive in 3948 02:18:58,325 --> 02:18:59,930 meeting with that constituent 3949 02:18:59,930 --> 02:18:59,827 and they followed up a few 3950 02:18:59,827 --> 02:19:00,595 times and then dwp got back to 3951 02:19:00,595 --> 02:19:04,980 them about two weeks ago and we 3952 02:19:04,980 --> 02:19:04,832 just got that to you today. 3953 02:19:04,832 --> 02:19:05,466 So I think it's a helpful 3954 02:19:05,466 --> 02:19:08,466 reminder that if there are 3955 02:19:08,936 --> 02:19:09,570 inquiries that come from other 3956 02:19:09,570 --> 02:19:10,238 council districts that we 3957 02:19:10,238 --> 02:19:10,905 include the council district 3958 02:19:10,905 --> 02:19:13,905 where concern is located in 3959 02:19:15,709 --> 02:19:16,410 this case Hodges will make sure 3960 02:19:16,410 --> 02:19:17,111 to keep you updated on any 3961 02:19:17,111 --> 02:19:19,111 communications related orders 3962 02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:21,480 to report politics. 3963 02:19:25,953 --> 02:19:26,654 >> Thank you. 3964 02:19:26,654 --> 02:19:27,321 I appreciate that commitment. 3965 02:19:27,321 --> 02:19:28,560 I also wondering when we're 3966 02:19:28,560 --> 02:19:31,656 going to have a newly updated 3967 02:19:32,794 --> 02:19:33,361 how to determine first of all 3968 02:19:33,361 --> 02:19:33,962 dam really quickly ask 3969 02:19:33,962 --> 02:19:34,662 questions Given this new 3970 02:19:34,662 --> 02:19:37,620 information the Department of 3971 02:19:37,699 --> 02:19:38,466 Dam Safety thinks this dam is 3972 02:19:38,466 --> 02:19:42,660 so unsafe that any moment it 3973 02:19:43,972 --> 02:19:44,638 could experience a structural 3974 02:19:44,638 --> 02:19:45,273 collapse that we can't raise 3975 02:19:45,273 --> 02:19:45,907 the water level if that is 3976 02:19:45,907 --> 02:19:49,744 the case and he put it in 3977 02:19:49,744 --> 02:19:50,612 writing here what are we going 3978 02:19:50,612 --> 02:19:51,346 to do on our own website What 3979 02:19:51,346 --> 02:19:54,346 Ali Bridger, deputy director of 3980 02:19:55,917 --> 02:19:56,684 External Affairs answer that. 3981 02:19:56,684 --> 02:19:57,385 Yeah Thank you Council members 3982 02:19:57,385 --> 02:19:58,119 I think he was in the process 3983 02:19:58,119 --> 02:20:01,119 of being completely updated and 3984 02:20:01,823 --> 02:20:02,457 will ensure that update is 3985 02:20:02,457 --> 02:20:03,910 finalized with the city's 3986 02:20:03,910 --> 02:20:03,725 perspective as well and it 3987 02:20:03,725 --> 02:20:06,394 should be uploaded to our 3988 02:20:06,394 --> 02:20:06,728 website within the near future 3989 02:20:06,728 --> 02:20:07,462 . 3990 02:20:07,462 --> 02:20:07,996 Will you let us know when 3991 02:20:07,996 --> 02:20:09,996 that's done please? 3992 02:20:12,667 --> 02:20:13,434 Okay. 3993 02:20:13,434 --> 02:20:14,102 And I want to thank 3994 02:20:14,102 --> 02:20:14,836 the residents who have been 3995 02:20:14,836 --> 02:20:17,236 consistently arguing this point 3996 02:20:18,173 --> 02:20:18,841 and particularly this morning 3997 02:20:18,841 --> 02:20:19,541 because you were able to get 3998 02:20:19,541 --> 02:20:21,810 answers quicker than sometimes 3999 02:20:21,810 --> 02:20:24,810 we get to you unfortunately 4000 02:20:28,250 --> 02:20:28,750 here in the city So okay. 4001 02:20:28,750 --> 02:20:29,450 Well I appreciate 4002 02:20:29,450 --> 02:20:32,450 the commitment to getting more 4003 02:20:34,422 --> 02:20:34,756 better communication with our 4004 02:20:34,756 --> 02:20:35,423 office. 4005 02:20:35,423 --> 02:20:36,900 My last question is I agree 4006 02:20:36,900 --> 02:20:38,900 with Rhonda's recommendation 4007 02:20:41,960 --> 02:20:41,796 that this is the worst dam in 4008 02:20:41,796 --> 02:20:42,664 the whole state of California. 4009 02:20:42,664 --> 02:20:46,264 >> Why are we not putting all 4010 02:20:47,736 --> 02:20:48,436 the pressure on this dam if 4011 02:20:48,436 --> 02:20:49,271 we're going to prove this $150 4012 02:20:49,271 --> 02:20:53,341 million for all we have in San 4013 02:20:53,341 --> 02:20:54,750 Diego because I just need 4014 02:20:54,750 --> 02:20:54,743 the most attention so why can't 4015 02:20:54,743 --> 02:20:58,343 we focus on this one first? 4016 02:20:58,580 --> 02:20:59,281 So I'll go back in regards to 4017 02:20:59,281 --> 02:20:59,948 that the most important thing 4018 02:20:59,948 --> 02:21:00,616 is making sure because we've 4019 02:21:00,616 --> 02:21:03,616 lost 50% of the person who's 4020 02:21:04,987 --> 02:21:05,654 going to fund it we got 4021 02:21:05,654 --> 02:21:06,288 estimates We were originally 4022 02:21:06,288 --> 02:21:08,688 looking at $275 million to 4023 02:21:10,525 --> 02:21:12,525 replace this dam. 4024 02:21:15,130 --> 02:21:15,831 The estimates now are between 4025 02:21:15,831 --> 02:21:16,498 500 and $700 million and that 4026 02:21:16,498 --> 02:21:16,898 would mean the city would be 4027 02:21:16,898 --> 02:21:18,898 responsible. 4028 02:21:19,735 --> 02:21:20,102 We've lost 50% of our funding 4029 02:21:20,102 --> 02:21:20,836 for that. 4030 02:21:20,836 --> 02:21:23,836 So that increases the liability 4031 02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:26,108 in the cost to actually do 4032 02:21:26,108 --> 02:21:26,575 the work on the city of San 4033 02:21:26,575 --> 02:21:27,376 Diego residents. 4034 02:21:27,376 --> 02:21:30,879 And so we are trying to right 4035 02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:31,580 now identify all options 4036 02:21:31,580 --> 02:21:35,180 available to us in regards to 4037 02:21:37,152 --> 02:21:37,853 what is the best use of all 4038 02:21:37,853 --> 02:21:38,486 ratepayer funds because we do 4039 02:21:38,486 --> 02:21:40,886 not have unlimited funds. 4040 02:21:42,658 --> 02:21:43,391 Our existing rate right now we 4041 02:21:43,391 --> 02:21:44,590 don't even have the rates to do 4042 02:21:44,590 --> 02:21:46,459 that replacement right now. 4043 02:21:48,730 --> 02:21:49,431 So that would also require 4044 02:21:49,431 --> 02:21:50,198 future increased rates And so 4045 02:21:50,198 --> 02:21:54,398 we want to make sure and come 4046 02:21:54,903 --> 02:21:55,570 back and make sure we've 4047 02:21:55,570 --> 02:21:56,305 identified that option that 4048 02:21:56,305 --> 02:21:56,972 gives us addresses the concerns 4049 02:21:56,972 --> 02:22:00,572 in regards to the safety of 4050 02:22:00,775 --> 02:22:01,443 that dam but also looks at 4051 02:22:01,443 --> 02:22:02,111 the affordability that we're 4052 02:22:02,111 --> 02:22:05,711 looking at and that's why we 4053 02:22:06,782 --> 02:22:07,516 chose to do that risk 4054 02:22:07,516 --> 02:22:08,183 alternative analysis and coming 4055 02:22:08,183 --> 02:22:11,183 back with also interim risk 4056 02:22:12,521 --> 02:22:13,288 reduction measures which I 4057 02:22:13,288 --> 02:22:16,288 appreciate My question I guess 4058 02:22:19,327 --> 02:22:23,527 still is are we going to direct 4059 02:22:26,569 --> 02:22:26,724 most of these resources 4060 02:22:26,724 --> 02:22:26,875 immediately to Lake Hodges? 4061 02:22:26,875 --> 02:22:27,310 Hodges is the number one 4062 02:22:27,310 --> 02:22:27,187 priority. 4063 02:22:27,187 --> 02:22:27,342 Yes. 4064 02:22:27,342 --> 02:22:27,492 Okay. 4065 02:22:27,492 --> 02:22:27,658 All right. 4066 02:22:27,658 --> 02:22:27,809 Thank you. 4067 02:22:27,809 --> 02:22:27,976 Well, thank you for answering 4068 02:22:27,976 --> 02:22:29,976 the questions. 4069 02:22:30,438 --> 02:22:31,730 Thank you for the commitment to 4070 02:22:31,730 --> 02:22:31,506 communicate better with us 4071 02:22:31,506 --> 02:22:32,241 going forward. 4072 02:22:32,241 --> 02:22:32,607 You know, we work with our city 4073 02:22:32,607 --> 02:22:34,607 partners. 4074 02:22:37,480 --> 02:22:38,114 That's how we got $2 million 4075 02:22:38,114 --> 02:22:38,847 with assembly Ever tell is 4076 02:22:38,847 --> 02:22:39,548 because when it does come to us 4077 02:22:39,548 --> 02:22:41,984 we can ask But if we don't get 4078 02:22:41,984 --> 02:22:42,251 that information I can't act on 4079 02:22:42,251 --> 02:22:42,918 it. 4080 02:22:42,918 --> 02:22:43,652 So given the commitment that 4081 02:22:43,652 --> 02:22:46,652 you will work with our 4082 02:22:48,289 --> 02:22:48,924 communities better and get us 4083 02:22:48,924 --> 02:22:49,458 more answers and we'll be 4084 02:22:49,458 --> 02:22:50,158 focusing the efforts 4085 02:22:50,158 --> 02:22:53,158 immediately on Lake Hodges if 4086 02:22:54,396 --> 02:22:55,640 we proved it today I will prove 4087 02:22:55,640 --> 02:22:55,764 the vote to approve the item 4088 02:22:55,764 --> 02:22:59,364 but we will continue to follow 4089 02:23:01,700 --> 02:23:01,671 up to make sure that these 4090 02:23:01,671 --> 02:23:02,170 commitments are actually 4091 02:23:02,170 --> 02:23:02,838 followed through. 4092 02:23:02,838 --> 02:23:03,506 The community can feel safer 4093 02:23:03,506 --> 02:23:07,476 and we can be more aware of 4094 02:23:07,476 --> 02:23:08,177 going to be with this very 4095 02:23:08,177 --> 02:23:08,811 precious resource that we will 4096 02:23:08,811 --> 02:23:09,411 count on for a long time. 4097 02:23:09,411 --> 02:23:12,411 So thank you very much. 4098 02:23:12,548 --> 02:23:13,249 I think COUNCILMAN I think you 4099 02:23:13,249 --> 02:23:13,516 said you would vote to approve 4100 02:23:13,516 --> 02:23:14,183 it. 4101 02:23:14,183 --> 02:23:17,183 You didn't actually sign it 4102 02:23:17,186 --> 02:23:17,485 though So we get to you. 4103 02:23:17,485 --> 02:23:18,254 Okay. 4104 02:23:18,254 --> 02:23:18,955 I'll jump in there And second 4105 02:23:18,955 --> 02:23:21,955 before I go to Councilmember 4106 02:23:23,225 --> 02:23:23,925 Foster offer a few thoughts 4107 02:23:23,925 --> 02:23:24,627 because I want to clarify some 4108 02:23:24,627 --> 02:23:25,600 of the things that we've been 4109 02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:27,600 talking about. 4110 02:23:28,464 --> 02:23:29,232 One, thank you for coming down 4111 02:23:29,232 --> 02:23:32,832 and taking the time to testify 4112 02:23:34,169 --> 02:23:34,937 there isn't anything more scary 4113 02:23:34,937 --> 02:23:37,937 than the possibility of changes 4114 02:23:40,443 --> 02:23:40,810 that could potentially threaten 4115 02:23:40,810 --> 02:23:41,511 our homes. 4116 02:23:41,511 --> 02:23:45,711 You know I I'm old enough to 4117 02:23:46,416 --> 02:23:47,160 remember when living next to 4118 02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:49,416 open space and Wildlands 4119 02:23:51,421 --> 02:23:51,954 actually was an asset given as 4120 02:23:51,954 --> 02:23:52,655 many people describe 4121 02:23:52,655 --> 02:23:53,323 the changes in our environment 4122 02:23:53,323 --> 02:23:56,923 and the risk of wildfire has 4123 02:23:57,560 --> 02:23:58,160 certainly turned people's 4124 02:23:58,160 --> 02:23:58,527 attention in a different 4125 02:23:58,527 --> 02:24:00,527 direction. 4126 02:24:02,432 --> 02:24:03,199 My district District one used 4127 02:24:03,199 --> 02:24:07,399 to enjoy the quality of life by 4128 02:24:09,139 --> 02:24:09,571 being separated by major pieces 4129 02:24:09,571 --> 02:24:10,306 of open space. 4130 02:24:10,306 --> 02:24:13,906 And what do they face today? 4131 02:24:15,780 --> 02:24:15,812 Difficulty getting insurance 4132 02:24:15,812 --> 02:24:16,446 The state introducing zone zero 4133 02:24:16,446 --> 02:24:19,446 which is going to require 4134 02:24:20,817 --> 02:24:21,418 everybody sense almost 4135 02:24:21,418 --> 02:24:22,510 everybody in the city to 4136 02:24:22,510 --> 02:24:22,552 actually clear everything 4137 02:24:22,552 --> 02:24:24,552 within five feet. 4138 02:24:26,623 --> 02:24:27,257 Circumstances have different 4139 02:24:27,257 --> 02:24:27,957 change and sadly it takes 4140 02:24:27,957 --> 02:24:30,357 dramatic incidents to actually 4141 02:24:32,428 --> 02:24:33,196 force us to change. 4142 02:24:33,196 --> 02:24:33,763 And I do want to emphasize 4143 02:24:33,763 --> 02:24:36,163 the world changed with 4144 02:24:38,668 --> 02:24:39,368 the arrival down and change 4145 02:24:39,368 --> 02:24:40,169 the vision of them safety and 4146 02:24:40,169 --> 02:24:43,769 how they looked at things for 4147 02:24:45,709 --> 02:24:46,443 better or for worse. 4148 02:24:46,443 --> 02:24:50,430 So I appreciate the pivot as 4149 02:24:51,848 --> 02:24:52,515 councilmember from over it in 4150 02:24:52,515 --> 02:24:53,149 the public mentioned I am a 4151 02:24:53,149 --> 02:24:53,850 civil engineer so I paid a 4152 02:24:53,850 --> 02:24:56,553 little bit extra attention and 4153 02:24:56,553 --> 02:24:57,220 I want to remind that we did do 4154 02:24:57,220 --> 02:24:57,821 upwards $10 million worth of 4155 02:24:57,821 --> 02:25:00,221 repairs at Lake Hodges. 4156 02:25:01,958 --> 02:25:02,659 Pretty extraordinary innovative 4157 02:25:02,659 --> 02:25:02,993 approaches to try to stabilize 4158 02:25:02,993 --> 02:25:04,993 the dam. 4159 02:25:08,231 --> 02:25:08,932 And I can remember we actually 4160 02:25:08,932 --> 02:25:12,532 began a pace to actually start 4161 02:25:13,236 --> 02:25:13,569 thinking about a new dam There 4162 02:25:13,569 --> 02:25:14,504 . 4163 02:25:14,504 --> 02:25:19,304 I don't know how far we got but 4164 02:25:19,509 --> 02:25:20,243 we certainly got slammed when 4165 02:25:20,243 --> 02:25:20,877 the County Water Authority said 4166 02:25:20,877 --> 02:25:21,511 Yeah, we don't care about 4167 02:25:21,511 --> 02:25:21,811 the hydroelectric capacity 4168 02:25:21,811 --> 02:25:23,811 there. 4169 02:25:25,782 --> 02:25:26,216 We don't care about the water 4170 02:25:26,216 --> 02:25:27,500 storage there. 4171 02:25:27,500 --> 02:25:30,500 We're not interested in being 4172 02:25:31,188 --> 02:25:31,755 your 50% partner And that 4173 02:25:31,755 --> 02:25:32,322 changed the landscape. 4174 02:25:32,322 --> 02:25:34,722 I want to reemphasize 4175 02:25:36,259 --> 02:25:36,994 the question I think 4176 02:25:36,994 --> 02:25:37,694 councilmember bubble raised but 4177 02:25:37,694 --> 02:25:38,395 there's nothing in the action 4178 02:25:38,395 --> 02:25:40,795 today that actually precludes 4179 02:25:42,499 --> 02:25:42,833 what we might do with that, 4180 02:25:42,833 --> 02:25:43,166 correct? 4181 02:25:43,166 --> 02:25:43,467 Correct. 4182 02:25:43,467 --> 02:25:45,467 Okay. 4183 02:25:48,472 --> 02:25:49,139 So I wanted to make sure that 4184 02:25:49,139 --> 02:25:49,806 we weren't doing anything in 4185 02:25:49,806 --> 02:25:53,406 that regard And I also don't 4186 02:25:54,177 --> 02:25:54,812 want to forget about the larger 4187 02:25:54,812 --> 02:25:55,479 picture that we're talking 4188 02:25:55,479 --> 02:25:56,146 about that we first heard in 4189 02:25:56,146 --> 02:25:58,146 Environment Committee where 4190 02:25:59,750 --> 02:26:00,450 the city again given the 2021 4191 02:26:00,450 --> 02:26:04,500 action actually took a look at 4192 02:26:05,722 --> 02:26:06,356 the entirety of our system of 4193 02:26:06,356 --> 02:26:09,356 water storage which is our 4194 02:26:11,295 --> 02:26:11,962 water storage that doesn't 4195 02:26:11,962 --> 02:26:12,329 belong to the County water 4196 02:26:12,329 --> 02:26:13,630 Authority. 4197 02:26:13,630 --> 02:26:16,663 It's ours and it does typically 4198 02:26:18,680 --> 02:26:18,669 we talk about it as 10% of our 4199 02:26:18,669 --> 02:26:19,369 water supply, maybe even 4200 02:26:19,369 --> 02:26:22,369 the rainy month that actually 4201 02:26:23,140 --> 02:26:23,807 is upwards You said 30% and 4202 02:26:23,807 --> 02:26:26,807 more importantly the cost of 4203 02:26:29,480 --> 02:26:29,813 $400 an acre foot as opposed to 4204 02:26:29,813 --> 02:26:30,481 $2,600. 4205 02:26:30,481 --> 02:26:31,181 And anybody who thinks about 4206 02:26:31,181 --> 02:26:33,581 privatizing the most expensive 4207 02:26:34,851 --> 02:26:35,552 water in your county is a 4208 02:26:35,552 --> 02:26:36,253 private desalinization plant. 4209 02:26:36,253 --> 02:26:39,853 So I'm not interested in going 4210 02:26:40,758 --> 02:26:41,491 in that direction. 4211 02:26:41,491 --> 02:26:42,225 But everything that we need to 4212 02:26:42,225 --> 02:26:46,363 do to make sure that that local 4213 02:26:46,363 --> 02:26:47,300 water continues to function in 4214 02:26:47,300 --> 02:26:47,698 a very efficient manner and 4215 02:26:47,698 --> 02:26:50,698 keeps health keep the rates 4216 02:26:53,237 --> 02:26:53,871 down So I appreciate that even 4217 02:26:53,871 --> 02:26:54,537 though this is a ten year 4218 02:26:54,537 --> 02:26:56,937 contract that you're asking 4219 02:26:58,709 --> 02:26:59,309 that you will come back to us 4220 02:26:59,309 --> 02:27:00,440 yearly and let us know 4221 02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:03,440 the progress Clearly after Ojai 4222 02:27:05,182 --> 02:27:05,916 completes its assessment of 4223 02:27:05,916 --> 02:27:06,550 Lake Hodges and options coming 4224 02:27:06,550 --> 02:27:09,550 back to api or investment 4225 02:27:11,210 --> 02:27:11,856 committee whatever makes sense 4226 02:27:11,856 --> 02:27:12,590 best I do feel inclined because 4227 02:27:12,590 --> 02:27:16,790 I heard it more than once about 4228 02:27:17,127 --> 02:27:17,595 Choice Lake It's not part of 4229 02:27:17,595 --> 02:27:18,263 our water story. 4230 02:27:18,263 --> 02:27:21,863 It's not part of our system 4231 02:27:23,667 --> 02:27:24,335 There it is a dam all dams 4232 02:27:24,335 --> 02:27:24,701 always have that risk of 4233 02:27:24,701 --> 02:27:25,403 breaking. 4234 02:27:25,403 --> 02:27:28,839 How do we it's not PUDs I 4235 02:27:28,839 --> 02:27:29,407 assume it's Park and Rec. 4236 02:27:29,407 --> 02:27:30,141 Yes, that is correct. 4237 02:27:30,141 --> 02:27:30,875 But we are in coordination 4238 02:27:30,875 --> 02:27:34,475 because we do kind of have 4239 02:27:35,110 --> 02:27:35,546 the expertise in regards to 4240 02:27:35,546 --> 02:27:35,947 doing the condition 4241 02:27:35,947 --> 02:27:36,646 assessments. 4242 02:27:36,646 --> 02:27:37,181 We are coordinating with Park 4243 02:27:37,181 --> 02:27:40,181 and Rec to give them 4244 02:27:40,851 --> 02:27:41,552 the information It is a 4245 02:27:41,552 --> 02:27:42,286 satisfactory dam at this point 4246 02:27:42,286 --> 02:27:42,920 in time which is within days or 4247 02:27:42,920 --> 02:27:43,254 days That's their highest 4248 02:27:43,254 --> 02:27:45,254 rating. 4249 02:27:47,658 --> 02:27:48,326 So but we do have it identified 4250 02:27:48,326 --> 02:27:49,600 in preparing the information 4251 02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:52,997 that is needed so that being in 4252 02:27:52,997 --> 02:27:53,731 future actions can be done but 4253 02:27:53,731 --> 02:27:54,298 that would be at the expense of 4254 02:27:54,298 --> 02:27:54,599 from the general fund. 4255 02:27:54,599 --> 02:27:56,599 Okay. 4256 02:27:58,402 --> 02:27:59,690 I don't want to put any undue 4257 02:27:59,690 --> 02:27:59,770 pressure in front of our 4258 02:27:59,770 --> 02:28:00,438 colleagues but we do have ten 4259 02:28:00,438 --> 02:28:03,438 members of the County Water 4260 02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:05,877 Authority board of directors 4261 02:28:05,877 --> 02:28:06,443 there and I think it's a pretty 4262 02:28:06,443 --> 02:28:08,843 big enough to convince 4263 02:28:10,315 --> 02:28:11,115 the other directors to pony up 4264 02:28:11,115 --> 02:28:11,749 that kind of dollars where they 4265 02:28:11,749 --> 02:28:12,416 MAY not see the benefit to 4266 02:28:12,416 --> 02:28:14,816 the County Water Authority's 4267 02:28:17,388 --> 02:28:17,855 entire vision of an area of 4268 02:28:17,855 --> 02:28:18,523 responsibility. 4269 02:28:18,523 --> 02:28:22,123 So I don't really hold whole 4270 02:28:22,460 --> 02:28:23,361 much hope there no matter what 4271 02:28:23,361 --> 02:28:23,962 the city or town are able to do 4272 02:28:23,962 --> 02:28:24,296 at the board level going 4273 02:28:24,296 --> 02:28:26,296 forward. 4274 02:28:29,670 --> 02:28:29,567 But again, you know, I also 4275 02:28:29,567 --> 02:28:30,201 don't want to lose 4276 02:28:30,201 --> 02:28:32,601 the incredible pivot that 4277 02:28:34,205 --> 02:28:34,906 Peabody went through past five 4278 02:28:34,906 --> 02:28:37,906 years going forward And you 4279 02:28:40,845 --> 02:28:41,513 responded to when the division 4280 02:28:41,513 --> 02:28:45,113 of dam safety said new rules 4281 02:28:45,583 --> 02:28:46,317 are in place you jumped on 4282 02:28:46,317 --> 02:28:46,985 every requirement And then when 4283 02:28:46,985 --> 02:28:47,651 County Water Authority said 4284 02:28:47,651 --> 02:28:51,251 again slammed the door on us 4285 02:28:51,723 --> 02:28:52,390 you pivoted again. 4286 02:28:52,390 --> 02:28:53,580 And that's an extraordinary 4287 02:28:53,580 --> 02:28:53,758 amount of work of something 4288 02:28:53,758 --> 02:28:54,125 that is not part of our day to 4289 02:28:54,125 --> 02:28:56,125 day work. 4290 02:28:58,396 --> 02:28:59,129 So I very much appreciate it. 4291 02:28:59,129 --> 02:28:59,831 I appreciate MR. McFadden being 4292 02:28:59,831 --> 02:29:02,831 here and participating in this 4293 02:29:04,301 --> 02:29:04,669 as the chief of infrastructure 4294 02:29:04,669 --> 02:29:05,470 Services. 4295 02:29:05,470 --> 02:29:09,700 So with that I'll close my 4296 02:29:10,742 --> 02:29:11,443 comments and my colleagues have 4297 02:29:11,443 --> 02:29:12,430 some comments as well that I 4298 02:29:12,430 --> 02:29:12,711 will second the motion. 4299 02:29:12,711 --> 02:29:16,414 >> So we do have a motion by 4300 02:29:16,414 --> 02:29:17,820 council member Campbell and a 4301 02:29:17,820 --> 02:29:17,782 second by Council PRESIDENT 4302 02:29:17,782 --> 02:29:21,382 LaCava to second the motion on 4303 02:29:22,154 --> 02:29:22,854 the floor And with that will go 4304 02:29:22,854 --> 02:29:23,555 next to Council Member foster 4305 02:29:23,555 --> 02:29:27,155 Thank you Chair and thank you 4306 02:29:27,492 --> 02:29:28,293 for the presentation We did 4307 02:29:28,293 --> 02:29:31,893 hear this previously I did and 4308 02:29:33,465 --> 02:29:33,965 continue to have some concerns 4309 02:29:33,965 --> 02:29:34,699 but listening to 4310 02:29:34,699 --> 02:29:37,699 the conversation today we have 4311 02:29:40,439 --> 02:29:41,106 this action that's before us 4312 02:29:41,106 --> 02:29:41,807 today But you mentioned that 4313 02:29:41,807 --> 02:29:42,474 there's another contract that 4314 02:29:42,474 --> 02:29:42,774 we have Programatic contract 4315 02:29:42,774 --> 02:29:44,774 with. 4316 02:29:46,511 --> 02:29:47,379 We're doing analysis to look at 4317 02:29:47,379 --> 02:29:51,579 options and how we are going to 4318 02:29:52,751 --> 02:29:53,451 approach the very dam we are 4319 02:29:53,451 --> 02:29:54,152 discussing with that work that 4320 02:29:54,152 --> 02:29:57,152 is still outstanding and work 4321 02:29:57,888 --> 02:29:58,724 is being done. 4322 02:29:58,724 --> 02:29:59,558 Can you help me to understand 4323 02:29:59,558 --> 02:30:03,158 why we are taking this action 4324 02:30:03,795 --> 02:30:04,463 today? 4325 02:30:04,463 --> 02:30:05,130 Absolutely and it's a great 4326 02:30:05,130 --> 02:30:08,130 question in regard to that. 4327 02:30:09,501 --> 02:30:10,235 We do have regulatory deadlines 4328 02:30:10,235 --> 02:30:11,136 that we must address right now. 4329 02:30:11,136 --> 02:30:14,736 We cannot wait to have every 4330 02:30:15,841 --> 02:30:16,541 analysis that the team went 4331 02:30:16,541 --> 02:30:17,800 through to have that all done 4332 02:30:17,800 --> 02:30:19,800 before we move. 4333 02:30:22,948 --> 02:30:23,615 We have definitely some 4334 02:30:23,615 --> 02:30:26,150 priorities just like Hodges 4335 02:30:27,219 --> 02:30:27,886 Berry, Ty Murray Dam we have 4336 02:30:27,886 --> 02:30:28,587 other commitments and other 4337 02:30:28,587 --> 02:30:31,587 requirements that are due and 4338 02:30:32,824 --> 02:30:33,492 so we need to move forward in 4339 02:30:33,492 --> 02:30:34,159 having that design work and 4340 02:30:34,159 --> 02:30:37,159 keep maintaining that as we 4341 02:30:39,498 --> 02:30:40,198 continue in a parallel path on 4342 02:30:40,198 --> 02:30:40,899 the entire overall programatic 4343 02:30:40,899 --> 02:30:41,634 analysis And so do we not have 4344 02:30:41,634 --> 02:30:45,234 any do we not have another 4345 02:30:46,105 --> 02:30:46,672 contract or an existing 4346 02:30:46,672 --> 02:30:47,372 contracted to expire? 4347 02:30:47,372 --> 02:30:47,972 What is the how are we taking 4348 02:30:47,972 --> 02:30:50,372 care of these regulatory 4349 02:30:52,645 --> 02:30:53,512 requirements prior to this item 4350 02:30:53,512 --> 02:30:57,883 in regards to So a lot of them 4351 02:30:57,883 --> 02:30:58,350 did require some of them didn't 4352 02:30:58,350 --> 02:30:59,180 require design. 4353 02:30:59,180 --> 02:30:59,752 We're moving into more major 4354 02:30:59,752 --> 02:31:02,752 maintenance as it relates to 4355 02:31:04,557 --> 02:31:05,224 design that we will need design 4356 02:31:05,224 --> 02:31:06,250 expertise on this And so and 4357 02:31:06,250 --> 02:31:09,250 then I'll have Kelly out 4358 02:31:10,262 --> 02:31:11,290 anything else. 4359 02:31:11,290 --> 02:31:11,730 So we have contracts at 4360 02:31:11,730 --> 02:31:12,130 engineering a capital project 4361 02:31:12,130 --> 02:31:14,130 department. 4362 02:31:16,635 --> 02:31:17,236 So they issued three as needed 4363 02:31:17,236 --> 02:31:17,937 contracts to assist with 4364 02:31:17,937 --> 02:31:20,937 the near term repair projects 4365 02:31:21,907 --> 02:31:22,542 and do design those contracts 4366 02:31:22,542 --> 02:31:23,242 are nearing completion and 4367 02:31:23,242 --> 02:31:23,943 capacity so we no longer have 4368 02:31:23,943 --> 02:31:27,543 the ability to issue work for 4369 02:31:28,781 --> 02:31:29,315 new repair projects hence 4370 02:31:29,315 --> 02:31:29,915 the need for these. 4371 02:31:29,915 --> 02:31:32,915 And how much were those 4372 02:31:35,588 --> 02:31:36,322 contracts I we got the same 4373 02:31:36,322 --> 02:31:36,822 concept What's the capacity and 4374 02:31:36,822 --> 02:31:38,822 timeline on these? 4375 02:31:40,359 --> 02:31:41,920 Yeah so for each one it was a 4376 02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:44,692 five year duration they were as 4377 02:31:44,929 --> 02:31:45,631 needed and they were each 4378 02:31:45,631 --> 02:31:46,365 approximately 7 million so $21 4379 02:31:46,365 --> 02:31:46,699 million total for all the years 4380 02:31:46,699 --> 02:31:47,330 needed. 4381 02:31:47,330 --> 02:31:49,330 >> Okay. 4382 02:31:50,670 --> 02:31:54,270 And then with this with this 4383 02:31:56,308 --> 02:31:57,800 contract what is the maximum I 4384 02:31:57,800 --> 02:32:00,800 guess authority or capacity of 4385 02:32:01,748 --> 02:32:03,748 a task order? 4386 02:32:08,120 --> 02:32:08,654 The task orders are not limited 4387 02:32:08,654 --> 02:32:09,388 in dollar value. 4388 02:32:09,388 --> 02:32:10,890 I'm asking with the mayors what 4389 02:32:10,890 --> 02:32:13,689 is the mayoral authority for a 4390 02:32:13,860 --> 02:32:17,460 task order Based on my comments 4391 02:32:18,197 --> 02:32:18,598 at 80 I had concerns on one 4392 02:32:18,598 --> 02:32:18,898 commitments. 4393 02:32:18,898 --> 02:32:19,632 Right. 4394 02:32:19,632 --> 02:32:20,332 How are you going to break down 4395 02:32:20,332 --> 02:32:20,633 some contracts and things like 4396 02:32:20,633 --> 02:32:22,633 that? 4397 02:32:24,270 --> 02:32:24,937 If I remember the conversation 4398 02:32:24,937 --> 02:32:25,638 right there to be determined 4399 02:32:25,638 --> 02:32:26,171 later as we go through actual 4400 02:32:26,171 --> 02:32:28,171 task order process. 4401 02:32:30,143 --> 02:32:30,710 My question is what is 4402 02:32:30,710 --> 02:32:31,410 the mayor's authority? 4403 02:32:31,410 --> 02:32:32,770 I'm trying to understand what 4404 02:32:32,770 --> 02:32:35,677 we will see coming back and 4405 02:32:36,149 --> 02:32:36,849 what we will not within those 4406 02:32:36,849 --> 02:32:39,249 $75 million it is within 4407 02:32:41,754 --> 02:32:42,522 the mayor's authority up to $75 4408 02:32:42,522 --> 02:32:45,522 million within the term of 4409 02:32:47,160 --> 02:32:47,927 the contract. 4410 02:32:47,927 --> 02:32:48,628 But getting coming back we can 4411 02:32:48,628 --> 02:32:52,228 come back each year In regards 4412 02:32:53,660 --> 02:32:53,566 to our update. 4413 02:32:53,566 --> 02:32:54,500 Is that accurate? 4414 02:32:54,500 --> 02:32:58,100 I believe there's a limit on 4415 02:32:59,972 --> 02:33:02,972 each task order regarding City 4416 02:33:05,712 --> 02:33:06,412 Attorney's Council approval If 4417 02:33:06,412 --> 02:33:09,412 you Deputy City Attorney there 4418 02:33:11,584 --> 02:33:12,251 is no limit on tasks for as 4419 02:33:12,251 --> 02:33:12,619 needed consultant contracts 4420 02:33:12,619 --> 02:33:14,619 with you. 4421 02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:16,689 >> So essentially we're issuing 4422 02:33:16,689 --> 02:33:17,560 $75 million of capacity to 4423 02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:19,560 the mayor. 4424 02:33:21,194 --> 02:33:21,994 Not one item will come back to 4425 02:33:21,994 --> 02:33:26,194 us in the ten year process for 4426 02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:27,567 additional authority. 4427 02:33:27,567 --> 02:33:30,567 Is that what I'm understanding? 4428 02:33:32,720 --> 02:33:32,739 Why could you clarify if task 4429 02:33:32,739 --> 02:33:33,306 orders are capital funded if 4430 02:33:33,306 --> 02:33:35,706 that would trigger an 4431 02:33:38,445 --> 02:33:39,612 additional approval? 4432 02:33:39,612 --> 02:33:44,412 There is no cap on task for as 4433 02:33:44,417 --> 02:33:45,180 needed consultant contracts. 4434 02:33:45,180 --> 02:33:47,418 There's no limit within 4435 02:33:49,923 --> 02:33:52,923 the municipal code for this 4436 02:34:02,135 --> 02:34:02,836 type of this type of contract 4437 02:34:02,836 --> 02:34:03,703 And what they're talking about 4438 02:34:03,703 --> 02:34:07,303 this evening I'm going to add 4439 02:34:09,342 --> 02:34:10,900 something Councilmember I would 4440 02:34:10,900 --> 02:34:10,744 just offer that we couldn't 4441 02:34:10,744 --> 02:34:13,847 issue a task today to the total 4442 02:34:13,847 --> 02:34:14,481 to the tune of $75 million 4443 02:34:14,481 --> 02:34:15,182 because that is not what's 4444 02:34:15,182 --> 02:34:15,849 included in the rates that you 4445 02:34:15,849 --> 02:34:18,849 all approved this past fall. 4446 02:34:19,886 --> 02:34:20,520 That's also not included in our 4447 02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:21,188 five year work budget that 4448 02:34:21,188 --> 02:34:24,788 the full amount in year one. 4449 02:34:26,526 --> 02:34:27,227 So that's where we noted that 4450 02:34:27,227 --> 02:34:27,961 every opportunity that we will 4451 02:34:27,961 --> 02:34:28,595 be coming back for every annual 4452 02:34:28,595 --> 02:34:31,595 dam safety update with an 4453 02:34:32,232 --> 02:34:32,900 update on this program but also 4454 02:34:32,900 --> 02:34:33,567 in every five year outlook, 4455 02:34:33,567 --> 02:34:36,567 every budget and every rate 4456 02:34:37,570 --> 02:34:38,170 case we have moving forward 4457 02:34:38,170 --> 02:34:38,805 there will be additional 4458 02:34:38,805 --> 02:34:39,439 information on the planned 4459 02:34:39,439 --> 02:34:41,839 spend for these contracts 4460 02:34:43,710 --> 02:34:46,710 included within our dam safety 4461 02:34:48,882 --> 02:34:49,583 program line items is putting 4462 02:34:49,583 --> 02:34:50,417 and contracting on the call. 4463 02:34:50,417 --> 02:34:50,884 I just want to make sure I 4464 02:34:50,884 --> 02:34:52,884 understand this. 4465 02:34:55,422 --> 02:34:56,190 I didn't realize that consulted 4466 02:34:56,190 --> 02:34:56,889 contracts did not come within a 4467 02:34:56,889 --> 02:34:59,889 limit attached to the task 4468 02:35:01,528 --> 02:35:02,960 orders. 4469 02:35:02,960 --> 02:35:02,396 Yes it is online. 4470 02:35:02,396 --> 02:35:03,630 Yeah. 4471 02:35:03,630 --> 02:35:05,630 Good afternoon Councilmember 4472 02:35:07,501 --> 02:35:08,100 Foster. 4473 02:35:08,100 --> 02:35:08,669 That is correct. 4474 02:35:08,669 --> 02:35:09,436 Currently as we look at 4475 02:35:09,436 --> 02:35:12,436 municipal code there are no 4476 02:35:12,573 --> 02:35:16,173 limits for task orders Under as 4477 02:35:18,878 --> 02:35:19,747 many contracts. 4478 02:35:19,747 --> 02:35:20,347 Okay, so how much do we have 4479 02:35:20,347 --> 02:35:21,810 budgeted for this cycle? 4480 02:35:21,810 --> 02:35:24,681 What's the budget impact Or any 4481 02:35:25,352 --> 02:35:26,200 rate I'm assuming what we have 4482 02:35:26,200 --> 02:35:26,687 is included in the rates and 4483 02:35:26,687 --> 02:35:27,354 we're not going what I just 4484 02:35:27,354 --> 02:35:30,570 heard we're not going to go 4485 02:35:30,570 --> 02:35:30,791 over that Correct. 4486 02:35:30,791 --> 02:35:33,791 The amount is currently within 4487 02:35:36,597 --> 02:35:37,364 this fiscal year as identified 4488 02:35:37,364 --> 02:35:37,798 in a rate case and also with 4489 02:35:37,798 --> 02:35:38,980 our five year. 4490 02:35:38,980 --> 02:35:38,465 Okay. 4491 02:35:38,465 --> 02:35:40,465 All right. 4492 02:35:42,335 --> 02:35:42,703 I'm Thank you. 4493 02:35:42,703 --> 02:35:43,404 All right. 4494 02:35:43,404 --> 02:35:43,938 Thank you Councilmember Foster 4495 02:35:43,938 --> 02:35:45,938 for your questions. 4496 02:35:48,309 --> 02:35:48,876 We'll go next to council 4497 02:35:48,876 --> 02:35:49,410 PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee. 4498 02:35:49,410 --> 02:35:50,440 Thank you PRESIDENT. 4499 02:35:50,440 --> 02:35:53,440 We had a pretty extensive 4500 02:35:54,481 --> 02:35:55,182 discussion of listening to So i 4501 02:35:55,182 --> 02:35:55,883 think for me to summarize I'm 4502 02:35:55,883 --> 02:35:56,416 going to recapping it quickly 4503 02:35:56,416 --> 02:35:58,416 is perhaps helpful. 4504 02:35:59,620 --> 02:36:00,321 I think everyone in the room 4505 02:36:00,321 --> 02:36:01,550 understands the need for many 4506 02:36:01,550 --> 02:36:04,655 of our dams especially for Lake 4507 02:36:05,590 --> 02:36:05,926 Hodges. 4508 02:36:05,926 --> 02:36:06,660 We already as a council had 4509 02:36:06,660 --> 02:36:09,660 initiated funding for the study 4510 02:36:11,331 --> 02:36:12,320 of the conditions of the dams 4511 02:36:12,320 --> 02:36:12,700 And then the next step frankly 4512 02:36:12,700 --> 02:36:16,300 is to have this contract in 4513 02:36:17,205 --> 02:36:17,905 place to allow for funding to 4514 02:36:17,905 --> 02:36:18,606 ensure that design the design 4515 02:36:18,606 --> 02:36:21,606 phase for any future projects 4516 02:36:22,760 --> 02:36:22,877 can occur And I know this is 4517 02:36:22,877 --> 02:36:23,544 under a ten year period I feel 4518 02:36:23,544 --> 02:36:25,944 comfortable with the budget 4519 02:36:27,348 --> 02:36:28,150 authority piece being where we 4520 02:36:28,150 --> 02:36:28,683 the council is going to have 4521 02:36:28,683 --> 02:36:29,350 some ability to annually in 4522 02:36:29,350 --> 02:36:31,750 terms of determining what's 4523 02:36:34,388 --> 02:36:34,789 actually implemented within 4524 02:36:34,789 --> 02:36:35,389 the budget. 4525 02:36:35,389 --> 02:36:36,900 We're authorized within 4526 02:36:36,900 --> 02:36:36,824 the budget for projects and so 4527 02:36:36,824 --> 02:36:39,961 that it's not all just going to 4528 02:36:39,961 --> 02:36:40,628 be spent But I presume that 4529 02:36:40,628 --> 02:36:43,628 without this we wouldn't be 4530 02:36:45,666 --> 02:36:46,267 able to address any of 4531 02:36:46,267 --> 02:36:46,901 the identified potential 4532 02:36:46,901 --> 02:36:48,901 repairs replacement water 4533 02:36:51,873 --> 02:36:52,572 levels as have been requested 4534 02:36:52,572 --> 02:36:52,874 by the Department of Safety of 4535 02:36:52,874 --> 02:36:53,341 Dams. 4536 02:36:53,341 --> 02:36:54,800 That is correct. 4537 02:36:54,800 --> 02:36:57,608 I mean we have already have 4538 02:36:58,279 --> 02:36:58,946 identified projects right now 4539 02:36:58,946 --> 02:36:59,547 at Lower Ojai, at Murray at 4540 02:36:59,547 --> 02:37:01,947 their at risk reduction 4541 02:37:03,217 --> 02:37:04,850 measures at Hodges. 4542 02:37:04,850 --> 02:37:04,786 All of those wouldn't be able 4543 02:37:04,786 --> 02:37:05,153 to be completed without these 4544 02:37:05,153 --> 02:37:07,153 contracts. 4545 02:37:10,458 --> 02:37:11,192 Thank you. 4546 02:37:11,192 --> 02:37:11,892 That concerns and I'm happy to 4547 02:37:11,892 --> 02:37:12,460 support that and look forward 4548 02:37:12,460 --> 02:37:14,860 to the work Continue. 4549 02:37:15,496 --> 02:37:15,997 All right. 4550 02:37:15,997 --> 02:37:16,698 Thank you. 4551 02:37:16,698 --> 02:37:17,298 Council PRESIDENT Personally I 4552 02:37:17,298 --> 02:37:17,699 don't see anyone else in 4553 02:37:17,699 --> 02:37:18,399 the lights. 4554 02:37:18,399 --> 02:37:21,636 Let me ask one last question. 4555 02:37:21,636 --> 02:37:22,203 This is just a sign. 4556 02:37:22,203 --> 02:37:22,871 So when you identify 4557 02:37:22,871 --> 02:37:23,471 construction contracts those 4558 02:37:23,471 --> 02:37:26,471 will come back because I 4559 02:37:27,809 --> 02:37:28,243 suspect they will be quite 4560 02:37:28,243 --> 02:37:28,510 sizable. 4561 02:37:28,510 --> 02:37:28,810 Yes. 4562 02:37:28,810 --> 02:37:29,544 Okay. 4563 02:37:29,544 --> 02:37:29,944 Just one Want to double check 4564 02:37:29,944 --> 02:37:30,245 up on that. 4565 02:37:30,245 --> 02:37:32,245 Okay. 4566 02:37:34,149 --> 02:37:34,783 We have a motion by 4567 02:37:34,783 --> 02:37:35,383 Councilmember Campbell and 4568 02:37:35,383 --> 02:37:36,160 second by myself to move 4569 02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:37,185 the staff recommendation. 4570 02:37:37,185 --> 02:37:37,952 Clerk please call the roll. 4571 02:37:37,952 --> 02:37:40,952 I'm sorry The voting system. 4572 02:37:43,758 --> 02:37:46,758 Please cast your vote That 4573 02:37:50,632 --> 02:37:51,366 passes unanimously So sorry. 4574 02:37:51,366 --> 02:37:52,000 That is not that announcing 4575 02:37:52,000 --> 02:37:54,400 that passes 7 to 1 with 4576 02:37:56,710 --> 02:37:56,771 Councilmember Foster voting no 4577 02:37:56,771 --> 02:37:57,472 and Councilmember you absent. 4578 02:37:57,472 --> 02:37:57,839 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 4579 02:37:57,839 --> 02:37:58,440 All right. 4580 02:37:58,440 --> 02:38:00,975 Thank you to my council 4581 02:38:00,975 --> 02:38:01,643 colleagues for all 4582 02:38:01,643 --> 02:38:02,344 the questions and comments. 4583 02:38:02,344 --> 02:38:06,544 Thank you to the good folks at 4584 02:38:07,148 --> 02:38:07,883 pd for putting this together 4585 02:38:07,883 --> 02:38:08,583 and answering all the questions 4586 02:38:08,583 --> 02:38:11,583 And of course, gentlemen from 4587 02:38:13,221 --> 02:38:13,521 Fire Rescue for showing up as 4588 02:38:13,521 --> 02:38:14,222 well. 4589 02:38:14,222 --> 02:38:17,222 >> So with that clerk please 4590 02:38:19,270 --> 02:38:19,694 introduce item 203 Item 2 or 3 4591 02:38:19,694 --> 02:38:20,395 is the naming of an existing 4592 02:38:20,395 --> 02:38:21,620 alley in the Cabrillo Heights 4593 02:38:21,620 --> 02:38:23,462 neighborhood within the Sara 4594 02:38:24,399 --> 02:38:27,399 mesa community Plan area it's 4595 02:38:28,837 --> 02:38:29,604 Highway Padre Dash 1130 27 six 4596 02:38:29,604 --> 02:38:30,305 If you'd like to speak to this 4597 02:38:30,305 --> 02:38:31,600 item please be sure to submit 4598 02:38:31,600 --> 02:38:34,409 your speaker slip to the front 4599 02:38:34,409 --> 02:38:35,760 of the room into the clear box 4600 02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:35,711 and if you are participating 4601 02:38:35,711 --> 02:38:38,711 remotely now's the time to 4602 02:38:40,148 --> 02:38:40,948 raise your hand by pressing 4603 02:38:40,948 --> 02:38:41,316 Star nine or the raise your 4604 02:38:41,316 --> 02:38:42,500 hand icon. 4605 02:38:42,500 --> 02:38:42,517 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 4606 02:38:42,517 --> 02:38:44,517 right Thank you. 4607 02:38:46,323 --> 02:38:47,540 I see staff filling in. 4608 02:38:47,540 --> 02:38:47,756 Please introduce yourselves for 4609 02:38:47,756 --> 02:38:48,757 the record and let us know how 4610 02:38:48,757 --> 02:38:52,357 much time you need for your 4611 02:39:02,400 --> 02:39:02,638 presentation. 4612 02:39:02,638 --> 02:39:03,372 >> Good afternoon Council 4613 02:39:03,372 --> 02:39:05,772 PRESIDENT The following Council 4614 02:39:07,609 --> 02:39:08,310 members My name is Daniel Neri 4615 02:39:08,310 --> 02:39:09,110 ,Development Project Manager 4616 02:39:09,110 --> 02:39:09,744 with Development Services and 4617 02:39:09,744 --> 02:39:13,344 joining me today is senior land 4618 02:39:14,850 --> 02:39:15,484 Surveyor Greg Jeffries and land 4619 02:39:15,484 --> 02:39:15,851 Surveyor assistant Michael 4620 02:39:15,851 --> 02:39:17,851 Burkhardt. 4621 02:39:18,200 --> 02:39:18,554 I will need approximately three 4622 02:39:18,554 --> 02:39:18,987 minutes for today's 4623 02:39:18,987 --> 02:39:20,987 presentation. 4624 02:39:30,299 --> 02:39:30,699 All right, we're ready. 4625 02:39:30,699 --> 02:39:32,699 >> Okay. 4626 02:39:35,504 --> 02:39:36,171 Item number 203 on today's 4627 02:39:36,171 --> 02:39:36,538 docket is project number pr 4628 02:39:36,538 --> 02:39:38,538 j11302764. 4629 02:39:41,410 --> 02:39:42,110 The naming of an existing alley 4630 02:39:42,110 --> 02:39:42,711 in the Cabrillo Heights 4631 02:39:42,711 --> 02:39:43,412 neighborhood within the seven 4632 02:39:43,412 --> 02:39:46,412 Mesa Community Plan area each 4633 02:39:49,784 --> 02:39:50,451 highway. 4634 02:39:50,451 --> 02:39:51,860 The item before you today 4635 02:39:51,860 --> 02:39:51,787 proposes the naming of an 4636 02:39:51,787 --> 02:39:54,187 existing unnamed public right 4637 02:39:56,458 --> 02:39:57,910 of way alley to each highway. 4638 02:39:57,910 --> 02:40:00,910 The street name change was 4639 02:40:02,231 --> 02:40:02,865 brought forth by a petition 4640 02:40:02,865 --> 02:40:03,532 from all affected property 4641 02:40:03,532 --> 02:40:04,132 owners and tenants fronting 4642 02:40:04,132 --> 02:40:04,766 the subject property in 4643 02:40:04,766 --> 02:40:07,166 accordance with San Diego 4644 02:40:09,238 --> 02:40:09,905 Municipal Code 1251120b 4645 02:40:09,905 --> 02:40:12,305 Although the municipal code 4646 02:40:15,211 --> 02:40:15,777 allows for a process one 4647 02:40:15,777 --> 02:40:16,345 decision for petitions 4648 02:40:16,345 --> 02:40:18,345 containing signatures 4649 02:40:19,215 --> 02:40:19,915 indicating 100% support. 4650 02:40:19,915 --> 02:40:20,683 The item before you requires a 4651 02:40:20,683 --> 02:40:23,683 process five Decision by City 4652 02:40:25,521 --> 02:40:26,188 Council Because the circulated 4653 02:40:26,188 --> 02:40:26,889 petition received less than 4654 02:40:26,889 --> 02:40:28,889 100% support a recommendation 4655 02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:31,761 from the Planning Commission is 4656 02:40:31,761 --> 02:40:32,428 not required for this action 4657 02:40:32,428 --> 02:40:35,428 for the San Diego Municipal 4658 02:40:37,166 --> 02:40:37,900 Code the naming was determined 4659 02:40:37,900 --> 02:40:38,567 to be categorically exempt from 4660 02:40:38,567 --> 02:40:39,268 the California Environmental 4661 02:40:39,268 --> 02:40:42,268 Quality Act pursuant to equal 4662 02:40:43,339 --> 02:40:44,600 sections 153a1 for existing 4663 02:40:44,600 --> 02:40:46,600 facilities and section 15311 4664 02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:49,745 for accessory structures. 4665 02:40:49,745 --> 02:40:53,282 The project is within the third 4666 02:40:53,282 --> 02:40:53,916 Mesa Community Plan area of 4667 02:40:53,916 --> 02:40:54,616 Council District seven and 4668 02:40:54,616 --> 02:40:57,616 the site lies between Parkdale 4669 02:40:57,687 --> 02:40:58,421 Avenue and McCullough Avenue 4670 02:40:58,421 --> 02:40:59,880 within the room one one and r's 4671 02:40:59,880 --> 02:41:02,880 one seven zones The Cabrillo 4672 02:41:03,859 --> 02:41:06,259 Heights neighborhood lies east 4673 02:41:07,930 --> 02:41:08,665 of Interstate 85 west of 4674 02:41:08,665 --> 02:41:09,365 Interstate 15 and approximately 4675 02:41:09,365 --> 02:41:11,765 2.6 miles south of Montgomery 4676 02:41:14,504 --> 02:41:15,271 Gibbs Airport, the existing 20 4677 02:41:15,271 --> 02:41:18,871 six foot wide and 0.4 mile long 4678 02:41:20,376 --> 02:41:21,100 alley was established for map 4679 02:41:21,100 --> 02:41:23,410 number 3003 of the Rancho 4680 02:41:24,480 --> 02:41:25,148 Cabrillo subdivision in 1960 4681 02:41:25,148 --> 02:41:25,882 Known today as the Cabrillo 4682 02:41:25,882 --> 02:41:28,282 Heights neighborhood, the Alley 4683 02:41:31,187 --> 02:41:31,821 serves as a divide between 4684 02:41:31,821 --> 02:41:32,554 the multiple dwelling unit 4685 02:41:32,554 --> 02:41:35,758 residential and one one zone to 4686 02:41:35,758 --> 02:41:36,459 the north shown here in total 4687 02:41:36,459 --> 02:41:37,193 and the single dwelling unit 4688 02:41:37,193 --> 02:41:41,393 r's one seven zone to the south 4689 02:41:41,964 --> 02:41:42,631 shown here in yellow. 4690 02:41:42,631 --> 02:41:43,166 The development pattern of 4691 02:41:43,166 --> 02:41:43,867 the Cabrillo Heights 4692 02:41:43,867 --> 02:41:45,867 neighborhood is characterized 4693 02:41:48,171 --> 02:41:48,805 by multifamily use military 4694 02:41:48,805 --> 02:41:49,439 housing to the north along 4695 02:41:49,439 --> 02:41:51,839 Parkdale Avenue and single 4696 02:41:54,770 --> 02:41:54,710 family residences to the south 4697 02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:55,445 along McCollough Avenue in 4698 02:41:55,445 --> 02:41:58,445 accordance with the street name 4699 02:41:59,816 --> 02:42:00,516 change regulations under this 4700 02:42:00,516 --> 02:42:03,516 end the San Diego Municipal 4701 02:42:04,554 --> 02:42:05,254 Code the applicant provided 4702 02:42:05,254 --> 02:42:05,989 identified 85 property owners 4703 02:42:05,989 --> 02:42:08,989 or tenants with either property 4704 02:42:10,460 --> 02:42:11,610 abutting the alley or property 4705 02:42:11,610 --> 02:42:11,661 within an address on 4706 02:42:11,661 --> 02:42:12,362 the affected segment of 4707 02:42:12,362 --> 02:42:15,962 the subject right of way That 4708 02:42:17,467 --> 02:42:18,340 petition was circulated via 4709 02:42:18,340 --> 02:42:18,735 door to door canvasing 4710 02:42:18,735 --> 02:42:21,135 resulting in 25 signatures in 4711 02:42:23,440 --> 02:42:24,107 favor which equates to 29% in 4712 02:42:24,107 --> 02:42:26,507 support and exceeded the 25% 4713 02:42:28,745 --> 02:42:29,112 minimum threshold required by 4714 02:42:29,112 --> 02:42:29,779 the code. 4715 02:42:29,779 --> 02:42:30,347 It's important to note here 4716 02:42:30,347 --> 02:42:30,947 that addresses without 4717 02:42:30,947 --> 02:42:33,347 signatures were not non 4718 02:42:34,851 --> 02:42:35,585 responsive and should today's 4719 02:42:35,585 --> 02:42:36,319 action be approved all fronting 4720 02:42:36,319 --> 02:42:39,319 properties will have the option 4721 02:42:41,910 --> 02:42:44,910 to submit an address change 4722 02:42:44,761 --> 02:42:45,495 request for information 4723 02:42:45,495 --> 02:42:47,895 Bulletin 185 In accordance with 4724 02:42:50,166 --> 02:42:50,800 San Diego Municipal Code 4725 02:42:50,800 --> 02:42:51,534 Section 1251120 See staff 4726 02:42:51,534 --> 02:42:52,235 determine that the project does 4727 02:42:52,235 --> 02:42:55,235 not adversely affect the multi 4728 02:42:55,839 --> 02:42:56,507 agency computer aided dispatch 4729 02:42:56,507 --> 02:42:57,730 service for police, fire and 4730 02:42:57,730 --> 02:42:59,730 paramedic vehicles or 4731 02:43:02,412 --> 02:43:03,130 the policies and procedures of 4732 02:43:03,130 --> 02:43:03,713 the United States Postal 4733 02:43:03,713 --> 02:43:04,381 Service as each highway is not 4734 02:43:04,381 --> 02:43:06,781 currently in assigned street 4735 02:43:09,553 --> 02:43:10,253 name in the city On MARCH 20th 4736 02:43:10,253 --> 02:43:12,653 2025 the third Mesa Community 4737 02:43:14,491 --> 02:43:15,192 Planning Group voted 601 in 4738 02:43:15,192 --> 02:43:15,926 support of a recommendation to 4739 02:43:15,926 --> 02:43:19,526 approve the naming of the alley 4740 02:43:20,970 --> 02:43:20,730 to each highway citing enhanced 4741 02:43:20,730 --> 02:43:22,730 safety navigation property 4742 02:43:25,535 --> 02:43:26,236 addressing and community 4743 02:43:26,236 --> 02:43:29,836 identity as a reason for their 4744 02:43:31,508 --> 02:43:32,142 support In consideration of 4745 02:43:32,142 --> 02:43:32,775 the staff report and some 4746 02:43:32,775 --> 02:43:33,443 supporting materials staff 4747 02:43:33,443 --> 02:43:34,110 recommends that City Council 4748 02:43:34,110 --> 02:43:36,411 adopt a resolution for 4749 02:43:38,214 --> 02:43:40,614 the secret exemption pursuant 4750 02:43:42,519 --> 02:43:43,220 to secret Section 15301 and 4751 02:43:43,220 --> 02:43:43,821 15311 Staff further recommends 4752 02:43:43,821 --> 02:43:44,488 that the Council adopt a 4753 02:43:44,488 --> 02:43:46,488 resolution approving street 4754 02:43:47,357 --> 02:43:47,991 name change pmt 3349350. 4755 02:43:47,991 --> 02:43:48,625 This concludes today's 4756 02:43:48,625 --> 02:43:51,250 presentation and staff and 4757 02:43:53,630 --> 02:43:54,198 the lead applicants are here to 4758 02:43:54,198 --> 02:43:54,565 answer any questions. 4759 02:43:54,565 --> 02:43:55,265 All right. 4760 02:43:55,265 --> 02:43:55,898 Thank you for the presentation 4761 02:43:55,898 --> 02:43:58,298 Clark Please proceed with 4762 02:43:59,570 --> 02:44:00,638 public comment. 4763 02:44:00,638 --> 02:44:04,838 We have we have a few speakers 4764 02:44:06,100 --> 02:44:06,844 here. 4765 02:44:06,844 --> 02:44:07,545 Glad a doctor if you can please 4766 02:44:07,545 --> 02:44:08,212 come up to the microphone and 4767 02:44:08,212 --> 02:44:11,812 if I can have the following 4768 02:44:11,982 --> 02:44:12,649 individuals please come up to 4769 02:44:12,649 --> 02:44:13,160 the other reserved seats at 4770 02:44:13,160 --> 02:44:15,160 the front. 4771 02:44:17,755 --> 02:44:21,355 In fact DR. Avila, Doctor and 4772 02:44:22,193 --> 02:44:22,693 room Room doctor You'll have 4773 02:44:22,693 --> 02:44:23,160 two minutes each. 4774 02:44:23,160 --> 02:44:23,961 Please proceed. 4775 02:44:23,961 --> 02:44:25,963 I would like to all speak 4776 02:44:25,963 --> 02:44:26,430 together. 4777 02:44:26,430 --> 02:44:28,430 The 20. 4778 02:44:33,771 --> 02:44:34,372 Would you like to speak 4779 02:44:34,372 --> 02:44:34,805 together as an organized 4780 02:44:34,805 --> 02:44:35,172 presentation? 4781 02:44:35,172 --> 02:44:37,172 All right. 4782 02:44:38,709 --> 02:44:39,109 We shall support We do live on 4783 02:44:39,109 --> 02:44:41,109 that alley. 4784 02:44:44,581 --> 02:44:45,182 The biggest issue right now is 4785 02:44:45,182 --> 02:44:45,850 both delivery emergency 4786 02:44:45,850 --> 02:44:48,850 services because it's such a 4787 02:44:51,422 --> 02:44:52,550 distinct situation. 4788 02:44:52,550 --> 02:44:55,550 The houses that are facing 4789 02:44:57,194 --> 02:44:57,862 alley very difficult to find So 4790 02:44:57,862 --> 02:45:00,862 we'll see Like those living 4791 02:45:03,167 --> 02:45:03,768 around I know from the table 4792 02:45:03,768 --> 02:45:04,435 that somebody called 4793 02:45:04,435 --> 02:45:05,135 the emergency ambulance and 4794 02:45:05,135 --> 02:45:08,735 they came to the house facing 4795 02:45:09,507 --> 02:45:10,208 the street and were unable to 4796 02:45:10,208 --> 02:45:13,808 find the house that they were 4797 02:45:14,912 --> 02:45:15,846 called to entirely. 4798 02:45:15,846 --> 02:45:20,460 So we are here to show support 4799 02:45:21,218 --> 02:45:21,618 and hope to get that open. 4800 02:45:21,618 --> 02:45:23,618 Thank you. 4801 02:45:27,925 --> 02:45:28,559 That concludes your comments. 4802 02:45:28,559 --> 02:45:29,360 Appreciate you being here. 4803 02:45:29,360 --> 02:45:30,270 We'll go to those participating 4804 02:45:30,270 --> 02:45:30,461 remotely starting the five 4805 02:45:30,461 --> 02:45:32,461 minute timer. 4806 02:45:36,934 --> 02:45:37,568 There's actually nobody nobody 4807 02:45:37,568 --> 02:45:38,236 in the virtual queue That 4808 02:45:38,236 --> 02:45:38,603 concludes public comment on 4809 02:45:38,603 --> 02:45:39,700 this item. 4810 02:45:39,700 --> 02:45:41,700 >> Okay thanks. 4811 02:45:43,975 --> 02:45:44,609 The city clerk You MAY begin. 4812 02:45:44,609 --> 02:45:45,276 Thank you for for taking 4813 02:45:45,276 --> 02:45:48,276 the time and sitting through 4814 02:45:49,347 --> 02:45:49,647 this afternoon's conversations 4815 02:45:49,647 --> 02:45:50,414 . 4816 02:45:50,414 --> 02:45:51,480 This is my district something 4817 02:45:51,480 --> 02:45:51,683 we wouldn't normally go to 4818 02:45:51,683 --> 02:45:52,283 The District seven Council 4819 02:45:52,283 --> 02:45:54,683 member for Guidance and 4820 02:45:56,321 --> 02:45:57,880 geographic courtesy He is not 4821 02:45:57,880 --> 02:46:00,688 here so we'll go first to 4822 02:46:02,293 --> 02:46:02,694 Councilmember Bunglers. 4823 02:46:02,694 --> 02:46:02,961 Thank you. 4824 02:46:02,961 --> 02:46:03,661 Yes. 4825 02:46:03,661 --> 02:46:04,362 Since council our campaign was 4826 02:46:04,362 --> 02:46:04,662 up on paternity leave with his 4827 02:46:04,662 --> 02:46:06,662 baby. 4828 02:46:07,665 --> 02:46:08,298 I'm happy to make the motion to 4829 02:46:08,298 --> 02:46:08,899 approve recommendation to 4830 02:46:08,899 --> 02:46:09,601 change the always name. 4831 02:46:09,601 --> 02:46:09,901 >> Okay, we have Councilmember 4832 02:46:09,901 --> 02:46:11,901 Bone. 4833 02:46:12,670 --> 02:46:13,404 What about moving 4834 02:46:13,404 --> 02:46:13,972 the recommendation And we go 4835 02:46:13,972 --> 02:46:14,339 next to council member 4836 02:46:14,339 --> 02:46:16,339 Campbell. 4837 02:46:19,176 --> 02:46:19,477 I'm happy to second the motion 4838 02:46:19,477 --> 02:46:19,878 . 4839 02:46:19,878 --> 02:46:20,545 All right. 4840 02:46:20,545 --> 02:46:21,112 We have a motion by 4841 02:46:21,112 --> 02:46:21,813 Councilmember Campbell 4842 02:46:21,813 --> 02:46:22,414 the second the motion to staff 4843 02:46:22,414 --> 02:46:23,810 recommendation on here. 4844 02:46:23,810 --> 02:46:24,615 I don't see anybody else in 4845 02:46:24,615 --> 02:46:25,416 the lights. 4846 02:46:25,416 --> 02:46:29,160 I've got a couple of questions. 4847 02:46:30,655 --> 02:46:31,322 This is a request by private 4848 02:46:31,322 --> 02:46:32,123 property owners or residents 4849 02:46:32,123 --> 02:46:36,323 Who's going to pay for the new 4850 02:46:36,361 --> 02:46:36,861 site? 4851 02:46:36,861 --> 02:46:38,861 Thank you. 4852 02:46:42,968 --> 02:46:43,668 This conversation was held with 4853 02:46:43,668 --> 02:46:45,668 the Transportation Department 4854 02:46:48,974 --> 02:46:49,674 and on AUGUST 7th of this past 4855 02:46:49,674 --> 02:46:50,342 year we received confirmation 4856 02:46:50,342 --> 02:46:50,775 from senior traffic engineer 4857 02:46:50,775 --> 02:46:51,476 Gary Pentz in 4858 02:46:51,476 --> 02:46:53,476 the Transportation Department 4859 02:46:54,846 --> 02:46:55,579 that once approved by council 4860 02:46:55,579 --> 02:46:56,281 this would become a named alley 4861 02:46:56,281 --> 02:46:56,915 like the rest of the city and 4862 02:46:56,915 --> 02:46:59,915 there is no charge for 4863 02:47:00,986 --> 02:47:01,519 the street sign installation to 4864 02:47:01,519 --> 02:47:02,219 the applicants that 4865 02:47:02,219 --> 02:47:02,955 transportation will issue work 4866 02:47:02,955 --> 02:47:05,955 orders to the streets divisions 4867 02:47:06,591 --> 02:47:07,292 for the signs and it will be 4868 02:47:07,292 --> 02:47:08,260 funded from the general fund. 4869 02:47:08,260 --> 02:47:11,797 Okay I have to admit I have a 4870 02:47:11,797 --> 02:47:12,496 little heartburn even though 4871 02:47:12,496 --> 02:47:14,896 it's like 3500 bucks going 4872 02:47:18,135 --> 02:47:18,804 forward given the very long 4873 02:47:18,804 --> 02:47:19,605 needs list that we have 4874 02:47:19,605 --> 02:47:23,805 the city to identify this as a 4875 02:47:23,842 --> 02:47:24,176 problem for something to be 4876 02:47:24,176 --> 02:47:25,100 solved. 4877 02:47:25,100 --> 02:47:25,711 And so I have a little bit of 4878 02:47:25,711 --> 02:47:28,111 heartburn about doing that 4879 02:47:29,414 --> 02:47:30,480 especially with the military 4880 02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:30,749 housing benefit from this. 4881 02:47:30,749 --> 02:47:33,149 Apparently the military didn't 4882 02:47:35,754 --> 02:47:36,188 offer to jump in on this 4883 02:47:36,188 --> 02:47:36,888 conversation. 4884 02:47:36,888 --> 02:47:37,489 I appreciate the comment about 4885 02:47:37,489 --> 02:47:39,489 the emergency response. 4886 02:47:42,460 --> 02:47:43,228 I don't want anybody to think 4887 02:47:43,228 --> 02:47:44,290 that any of you or house in 4888 02:47:44,290 --> 02:47:47,629 the back of a property that 4889 02:47:47,899 --> 02:47:48,600 fronts on the street and has an 4890 02:47:48,600 --> 02:47:51,600 alley behind it is dangerous. 4891 02:47:53,672 --> 02:47:54,306 I don't know why at 911 call 4892 02:47:54,306 --> 02:47:55,700 wouldn't be unified where 4893 02:47:55,700 --> 02:47:55,674 the problem was going forward 4894 02:47:55,674 --> 02:47:59,143 but I don't want anybody to 4895 02:47:59,143 --> 02:47:59,745 think that it's dangerous But I 4896 02:47:59,745 --> 02:48:00,445 do have these terrible, 4897 02:48:00,445 --> 02:48:02,445 terrible budget conversations 4898 02:48:04,950 --> 02:48:05,818 that we're having even $3,500. 4899 02:48:05,818 --> 02:48:06,151 That's kind of a big deal going 4900 02:48:06,151 --> 02:48:08,151 forward. 4901 02:48:11,757 --> 02:48:12,491 So I wish the 25 people or 4902 02:48:12,491 --> 02:48:13,191 the 25 people that did find out 4903 02:48:13,191 --> 02:48:16,695 would have been willing to pay 4904 02:48:16,695 --> 02:48:17,162 up for that sign to their 4905 02:48:17,162 --> 02:48:17,863 mutual benefit. 4906 02:48:17,863 --> 02:48:18,597 So but I just wanted to clear 4907 02:48:18,597 --> 02:48:22,197 that up and bring that to 4908 02:48:24,169 --> 02:48:24,703 everybody's attention so nobody 4909 02:48:24,703 --> 02:48:25,237 else on the lights. 4910 02:48:25,237 --> 02:48:26,505 We have a motion by 4911 02:48:26,505 --> 02:48:27,138 Councilmember Paul Wilbert and 4912 02:48:27,138 --> 02:48:27,773 a second by council member 4913 02:48:27,773 --> 02:48:30,773 Campbell to move the staff 4914 02:48:32,778 --> 02:48:33,479 recommendation As far as 4915 02:48:33,479 --> 02:48:36,479 the voting system, please cast 4916 02:48:44,557 --> 02:48:45,324 your vote That passes 4917 02:48:45,324 --> 02:48:46,250 unanimously 8 to 0 with Council 4918 02:48:46,250 --> 02:48:49,250 Member Campos And thank you 4919 02:48:50,950 --> 02:48:50,462 Council PRESIDENT. 4920 02:48:50,462 --> 02:48:51,197 All right. 4921 02:48:51,197 --> 02:48:51,864 Congratulations on getting this 4922 02:48:51,864 --> 02:48:52,531 action and look forward to a 4923 02:48:52,531 --> 02:48:54,931 meaningful change update To 4924 02:48:56,268 --> 02:48:56,635 clarify some of those 4925 02:48:56,635 --> 02:48:57,335 questions. 4926 02:48:57,335 --> 02:48:57,970 With that we will now take up 4927 02:48:57,970 --> 02:49:00,370 non agenda public comment. 4928 02:49:01,407 --> 02:49:02,141 The council members respect and 4929 02:49:02,141 --> 02:49:02,708 appreciate the public input and 4930 02:49:02,708 --> 02:49:03,409 are fully committed to 4931 02:49:03,409 --> 02:49:05,409 protecting every participant's 4932 02:49:08,314 --> 02:49:08,915 free speech right to counsel 4933 02:49:08,915 --> 02:49:09,648 and committee meetings. 4934 02:49:09,648 --> 02:49:09,982 Clerk Please proceed for public 4935 02:49:09,982 --> 02:49:11,982 comment. 4936 02:49:12,618 --> 02:49:13,218 Thank you for oral 2.7 on 4937 02:49:13,218 --> 02:49:13,853 the public comment is an 4938 02:49:13,853 --> 02:49:14,520 opportunity for members of 4939 02:49:14,520 --> 02:49:15,220 the public to comment items 4940 02:49:15,220 --> 02:49:19,580 that are not on the agenda but 4941 02:49:19,580 --> 02:49:19,658 within the subject matter 4942 02:49:19,658 --> 02:49:19,992 jurisdiction of the City 4943 02:49:19,992 --> 02:49:20,626 Council. 4944 02:49:20,626 --> 02:49:20,959 Each speaker will have two 4945 02:49:20,959 --> 02:49:21,627 minutes. 4946 02:49:21,627 --> 02:49:25,227 Please note if there are any 4947 02:49:26,198 --> 02:49:26,933 more speakers on a single topic 4948 02:49:26,933 --> 02:49:27,333 the maximum temperature will be 4949 02:49:27,333 --> 02:49:28,000 60 minutes. 4950 02:49:28,000 --> 02:49:28,601 If you're in chambers please 4951 02:49:28,601 --> 02:49:29,202 submit a speaker step to 4952 02:49:29,202 --> 02:49:30,836 the front of the room in 4953 02:49:30,836 --> 02:49:31,504 the clear box If you're 4954 02:49:31,504 --> 02:49:32,205 participating remotely now's 4955 02:49:32,205 --> 02:49:32,938 the time to raise your hand by 4956 02:49:32,938 --> 02:49:36,538 pressing Star nine or the raise 4957 02:49:36,776 --> 02:49:37,410 your hand icon If I can have 4958 02:49:37,410 --> 02:49:38,770 Christina everybody Taylor 4959 02:49:38,770 --> 02:49:41,677 please come to the front and 4960 02:49:42,681 --> 02:49:43,416 then Anthony Rose If you can 4961 02:49:43,416 --> 02:49:44,116 also come to the other reserved 4962 02:49:44,116 --> 02:49:47,116 seats you'll have two minutes. 4963 02:49:48,688 --> 02:49:49,388 Please proceed If you can just 4964 02:49:49,388 --> 02:49:50,890 back into that microphone that 4965 02:49:50,890 --> 02:49:53,689 is your timer will start when 4966 02:49:54,794 --> 02:49:55,661 you speak I Hello everybody. 4967 02:49:55,661 --> 02:49:56,229 My name is Christina Taylor and 4968 02:49:56,229 --> 02:49:58,629 I am here representing 4969 02:50:00,298 --> 02:50:02,698 residents from the thousand 4970 02:50:05,571 --> 02:50:06,272 block of Granger Street 9215 4 4971 02:50:06,272 --> 02:50:09,272 million Moreno is our district 4972 02:50:11,644 --> 02:50:12,512 rep or city council member am 4973 02:50:12,512 --> 02:50:15,915 Just to give you some brief 4974 02:50:15,915 --> 02:50:16,616 history in 2022 my husband was 4975 02:50:16,616 --> 02:50:19,616 in connection with MS. Moreno 4976 02:50:22,555 --> 02:50:23,323 to repair resurface the street 4977 02:50:23,323 --> 02:50:27,523 we live in the pci which is 4978 02:50:28,328 --> 02:50:29,950 public record Our street hasn't 4979 02:50:29,950 --> 02:50:32,950 been touched in over 30 years. 4980 02:50:34,000 --> 02:50:34,601 I have pictures here you know 4981 02:50:34,601 --> 02:50:37,100 this doesn't do justice. 4982 02:50:38,905 --> 02:50:39,338 She's been there three years 4983 02:50:39,338 --> 02:50:40,600 ago or so. 4984 02:50:40,600 --> 02:50:42,406 We've been anxiously waiting 4985 02:50:44,811 --> 02:50:45,145 for repair and just continue 4986 02:50:45,145 --> 02:50:45,812 waiting. 4987 02:50:45,812 --> 02:50:49,412 So I was proactive this year 4988 02:50:50,617 --> 02:50:51,317 the beginning of the year I 4989 02:50:51,317 --> 02:50:51,851 emailed Mayor Todd Gloria four 4990 02:50:51,851 --> 02:50:53,851 times including MS.. 4991 02:50:56,356 --> 02:50:56,823 Moreno, the Department of 4992 02:50:56,823 --> 02:50:57,590 Transportation. 4993 02:50:57,590 --> 02:51:01,190 I am just here representing my 4994 02:51:02,963 --> 02:51:03,663 community and my husband and I 4995 02:51:03,663 --> 02:51:07,263 as well as every resident has 4996 02:51:07,734 --> 02:51:08,168 paid and continues to pace 4997 02:51:08,168 --> 02:51:09,101 taxes. 4998 02:51:09,101 --> 02:51:13,901 So I think we need to make our 4999 02:51:14,374 --> 02:51:15,141 voice heard and we will do what 5000 02:51:15,141 --> 02:51:19,341 it takes to make some noise and 5001 02:51:19,980 --> 02:51:20,814 get everybody's attention. 5002 02:51:20,814 --> 02:51:21,515 With that being said, let me 5003 02:51:21,515 --> 02:51:23,984 see Hopefully I'm not missing 5004 02:51:23,984 --> 02:51:24,751 anything in these two minutes I 5005 02:51:24,751 --> 02:51:28,951 did I would like to end with 5006 02:51:29,556 --> 02:51:30,190 something from the media 2026 5007 02:51:30,190 --> 02:51:33,190 State of the City address 5008 02:51:34,995 --> 02:51:35,696 The voices of residents on 5009 02:51:35,696 --> 02:51:38,696 the thousand thousand block of 5010 02:51:39,366 --> 02:51:40,330 Granger Street and 1400 block 5011 02:51:40,330 --> 02:51:40,366 of Illinois Avenue have gone 5012 02:51:40,366 --> 02:51:41,670 unheard. 5013 02:51:41,670 --> 02:51:44,670 Request for resurfacing in our 5014 02:51:44,705 --> 02:51:45,405 neighborhood has been ignored 5015 02:51:45,405 --> 02:51:49,500 for decades and then the mayor 5016 02:51:50,877 --> 02:51:51,511 in his recent and that means 5017 02:51:51,511 --> 02:51:52,145 roads are smooth sidewalks 5018 02:51:52,145 --> 02:51:54,545 without trip hazard three 5019 02:51:56,160 --> 02:51:56,817 lights that work anyway you 5020 02:51:56,817 --> 02:51:59,853 know it Thank you Thank you for 5021 02:51:59,853 --> 02:52:00,554 your time and hopefully we can 5022 02:52:00,554 --> 02:52:02,954 give that concluding comment. 5023 02:52:11,798 --> 02:52:12,466 Anthony Hello City Council I 5024 02:52:12,466 --> 02:52:13,267 wanted to start today by 5025 02:52:13,267 --> 02:52:16,267 thanking Johnny Lou Rivera for 5026 02:52:16,770 --> 02:52:17,504 the proposed empty homes tax 5027 02:52:17,504 --> 02:52:18,237 and I wanted to thank everybody 5028 02:52:18,237 --> 02:52:22,437 else on the board that voted in 5029 02:52:23,430 --> 02:52:23,777 favor of that including Kent 5030 02:52:23,777 --> 02:52:24,278 Lee, including MR. Whitburn and 5031 02:52:24,278 --> 02:52:26,678 I believe as well. 5032 02:52:29,950 --> 02:52:30,517 And Joe LaCava and Raul Camille 5033 02:52:30,517 --> 02:52:31,385 who's not here today. 5034 02:52:31,385 --> 02:52:33,654 But I wanted to start by 5035 02:52:33,654 --> 02:52:34,354 thanking y'all for pushing that 5036 02:52:34,354 --> 02:52:34,988 legislation forward That means 5037 02:52:34,988 --> 02:52:38,826 a lot to the people of San 5038 02:52:38,826 --> 02:52:39,393 Diego and that will go a long 5039 02:52:39,393 --> 02:52:40,127 way in making housing 5040 02:52:40,127 --> 02:52:40,494 affordable for everyone here in 5041 02:52:40,494 --> 02:52:42,494 San Diego. 5042 02:52:43,697 --> 02:52:44,970 So thank you very much for 5043 02:52:44,970 --> 02:52:44,965 doing that. 5044 02:52:44,965 --> 02:52:45,666 Part of the reason why I'm here 5045 02:52:45,666 --> 02:52:49,266 today is because I wanted to 5046 02:52:49,536 --> 02:52:50,504 talk about Floc which has meant 5047 02:52:50,504 --> 02:52:51,472 a lot to me and my safety or my 5048 02:52:51,472 --> 02:52:55,442 feeling of lack of safety And I 5049 02:52:55,442 --> 02:52:56,142 wanted to talk about how 5050 02:52:56,142 --> 02:52:59,142 everything from a human being 5051 02:52:59,979 --> 02:53:00,681 down to the smallest electron 5052 02:53:00,681 --> 02:53:01,415 changes its behavior when it 5053 02:53:01,415 --> 02:53:04,415 knows that it's being observed. 5054 02:53:05,419 --> 02:53:06,190 And this issue is to me a 5055 02:53:06,190 --> 02:53:06,387 violation of the Fourth 5056 02:53:06,387 --> 02:53:07,540 Amendment. 5057 02:53:07,540 --> 02:53:10,540 And I'm very concerned that 5058 02:53:10,591 --> 02:53:11,258 activists like myself will no 5059 02:53:11,258 --> 02:53:13,658 longer feel comfortable and 5060 02:53:16,363 --> 02:53:17,640 safe doing the work and trying 5061 02:53:17,640 --> 02:53:17,731 to keep everyone in our town 5062 02:53:17,731 --> 02:53:21,331 safe with the issues that we 5063 02:53:22,200 --> 02:53:22,637 love When we find out about 5064 02:53:22,637 --> 02:53:23,270 issues like Operation Road 5065 02:53:23,270 --> 02:53:25,670 flayer which just surfaced 5066 02:53:27,708 --> 02:53:28,409 which we now know is a project 5067 02:53:28,409 --> 02:53:32,900 of which ice is engaged with 5068 02:53:32,647 --> 02:53:33,314 along with the dhs in targeting 5069 02:53:33,314 --> 02:53:33,980 activists specifically Gene 5070 02:53:33,980 --> 02:53:36,980 Wong and Arturo Gonzalez who 5071 02:53:38,386 --> 02:53:39,860 are both friends of mine. 5072 02:53:39,860 --> 02:53:39,820 And these documents were 5073 02:53:39,820 --> 02:53:42,820 revealed in Gene Wong's court 5074 02:53:44,225 --> 02:53:44,891 appearance down at the Superior 5075 02:53:44,891 --> 02:53:45,827 Court a couple of weeks ago. 5076 02:53:45,827 --> 02:53:49,130 And this is exactly what we 5077 02:53:49,130 --> 02:53:49,997 were fearing. 5078 02:53:49,997 --> 02:53:50,664 A couple of months ago when we 5079 02:53:50,664 --> 02:53:51,333 were having this discussion 5080 02:53:51,333 --> 02:53:54,333 about Floc in these chambers 5081 02:53:54,434 --> 02:53:55,136 was that this technology could 5082 02:53:55,136 --> 02:53:58,736 and would be utilized to begin 5083 02:53:59,907 --> 02:54:00,774 going after activists. 5084 02:54:00,774 --> 02:54:01,409 And so now I'm asking you all 5085 02:54:01,409 --> 02:54:03,809 to please reconsider your 5086 02:54:04,946 --> 02:54:05,613 position on Floc And please 5087 02:54:05,613 --> 02:54:06,280 don't continue casting this 5088 02:54:06,280 --> 02:54:08,680 mass surveillance dragnet on 5089 02:54:10,852 --> 02:54:11,185 activists like myself and my 5090 02:54:11,185 --> 02:54:11,618 friends. 5091 02:54:11,618 --> 02:54:12,320 >> Thank you. 5092 02:54:12,320 --> 02:54:12,653 Thank you for that concluding 5093 02:54:12,653 --> 02:54:13,354 comment. 5094 02:54:13,354 --> 02:54:16,524 So in the meantime we're going 5095 02:54:16,524 --> 02:54:16,891 to those participating 5096 02:54:16,891 --> 02:54:17,492 remotely. 5097 02:54:17,492 --> 02:54:18,126 We currently have eight 5098 02:54:18,126 --> 02:54:18,826 speakers with their hands 5099 02:54:18,826 --> 02:54:21,826 raised starting with Terri and 5100 02:54:22,730 --> 02:54:23,498 Scully. 5101 02:54:23,498 --> 02:54:24,198 Please unmute After that will 5102 02:54:24,198 --> 02:54:26,934 be Francine Maxwell Terri and 5103 02:54:26,934 --> 02:54:27,701 please proceed. 5104 02:54:27,701 --> 02:54:28,360 Good afternoon City of City 5105 02:54:28,360 --> 02:54:30,360 Council. 5106 02:54:32,339 --> 02:54:33,107 My name is Terri Skelly. 5107 02:54:33,107 --> 02:54:33,875 I'm a planning group member, a 5108 02:54:33,875 --> 02:54:36,875 parent and a public health 5109 02:54:37,779 --> 02:54:38,479 educator. 5110 02:54:38,479 --> 02:54:39,146 Last week kp we interviewed 5111 02:54:39,146 --> 02:54:41,146 Grady's Children's Hospital 5112 02:54:43,840 --> 02:54:45,484 pediatrician DR. Natalie Long 5113 02:54:46,588 --> 02:54:47,288 regarding the increase of 600 5114 02:54:47,288 --> 02:54:49,688 adolescents to its emergency 5115 02:54:51,259 --> 02:54:51,960 room in 2025 because they 5116 02:54:51,960 --> 02:54:52,560 needed treatment of some kind 5117 02:54:52,560 --> 02:54:54,960 for their cannabis use. 5118 02:54:56,864 --> 02:54:57,632 She said that and I quote Prior 5119 02:54:57,632 --> 02:55:01,232 to 2020 we were only seeing a 5120 02:55:02,170 --> 02:55:02,771 handful of adolescent a year, 5121 02:55:02,771 --> 02:55:03,605 maybe 20 or 30. 5122 02:55:03,605 --> 02:55:06,605 Cannabis products are far more 5123 02:55:07,975 --> 02:55:08,643 potent today than what previous 5124 02:55:08,643 --> 02:55:11,430 generations were exposed to. 5125 02:55:12,881 --> 02:55:13,548 End quote. 5126 02:55:13,548 --> 02:55:14,215 Pbs interviewed DR. Lab in 5127 02:55:14,215 --> 02:55:17,215 response to the new research 5128 02:55:17,752 --> 02:55:18,419 published in the Journal of 5129 02:55:18,419 --> 02:55:19,870 American Medical Association 5130 02:55:19,870 --> 02:55:21,487 regarding cannabis use with 5131 02:55:23,391 --> 02:55:24,250 increased risk for serious 5132 02:55:24,250 --> 02:55:24,658 mental health conditions. 5133 02:55:24,658 --> 02:55:26,658 The strongest associations 5134 02:55:28,496 --> 02:55:29,231 the study found was for 5135 02:55:29,231 --> 02:55:31,631 psychotic and bipolar disorders 5136 02:55:33,268 --> 02:55:33,602 where the risk was about 5137 02:55:33,602 --> 02:55:34,301 doubled. 5138 02:55:34,301 --> 02:55:36,701 And importantly teens reported 5139 02:55:38,106 --> 02:55:38,907 on their cannabis use about 1 5140 02:55:38,907 --> 02:55:41,907 to 2 years before their mental 5141 02:55:43,912 --> 02:55:44,746 health diagnosis. 5142 02:55:44,746 --> 02:55:48,946 Again, DR. Lab is low but is 5143 02:55:49,117 --> 02:55:49,817 quoted and I quote We see this 5144 02:55:49,817 --> 02:55:50,485 public health crisis emerging 5145 02:55:50,485 --> 02:55:53,485 in children and young adults 5146 02:55:54,723 --> 02:55:55,157 with early initiation of 5147 02:55:55,157 --> 02:55:55,524 cannabis use. 5148 02:55:55,524 --> 02:55:57,524 End quote. 5149 02:55:59,860 --> 02:56:00,562 I think we as residents need to 5150 02:56:00,562 --> 02:56:03,562 ask ourselves what this early 5151 02:56:04,899 --> 02:56:05,633 use marijuana means for 5152 02:56:05,633 --> 02:56:06,335 the long term well-being of our 5153 02:56:06,335 --> 02:56:09,335 younger residents and the many 5154 02:56:10,505 --> 02:56:11,172 who care about them and take 5155 02:56:11,172 --> 02:56:13,172 responsibility for reducing 5156 02:56:14,810 --> 02:56:15,477 visibility and promotions that 5157 02:56:15,477 --> 02:56:15,977 come with selling marijuana 5158 02:56:15,977 --> 02:56:18,377 here in our city. 5159 02:56:20,515 --> 02:56:20,882 Thank you for hearing me this 5160 02:56:20,882 --> 02:56:21,249 afternoon. 5161 02:56:21,249 --> 02:56:21,884 Thank you. 5162 02:56:21,884 --> 02:56:24,284 Next is Francine Maxwell. 5163 02:56:25,487 --> 02:56:26,255 If you can please unmute. 5164 02:56:26,255 --> 02:56:29,255 After that is medicine Francine 5165 02:56:30,225 --> 02:56:30,592 Maxwell Southeastern San Diego 5166 02:56:30,592 --> 02:56:31,126 resident. 5167 02:56:31,126 --> 02:56:34,126 I think I heard from 5168 02:56:34,963 --> 02:56:35,697 the diocese today that we want 5169 02:56:35,697 --> 02:56:36,331 the community to feel safer and 5170 02:56:36,331 --> 02:56:39,331 so this council should be 5171 02:56:40,402 --> 02:56:41,360 asking why they're not getting 5172 02:56:41,360 --> 02:56:44,360 more updates from the dpp. 5173 02:56:45,507 --> 02:56:46,175 We are extremely excited to 5174 02:56:46,175 --> 02:56:46,842 have an executive director. 5175 02:56:46,842 --> 02:56:47,576 But you haven't shared with 5176 02:56:47,576 --> 02:56:50,879 the community why we don't have 5177 02:56:50,879 --> 02:56:51,813 our attorney. 5178 02:56:51,813 --> 02:56:52,514 We have been in meet and Confer 5179 02:56:52,514 --> 02:56:55,984 for almost three years so that 5180 02:56:55,984 --> 02:56:56,685 also erodes the trust. 5181 02:56:56,685 --> 02:56:57,386 We completely understand that 5182 02:56:57,386 --> 02:56:57,786 we will be in meet and confer 5183 02:56:57,786 --> 02:56:59,786 for a while. 5184 02:57:01,156 --> 02:57:01,724 But again any opportunity to 5185 02:57:01,724 --> 02:57:03,724 share information with 5186 02:57:05,895 --> 02:57:06,595 the community on where we are 5187 02:57:06,595 --> 02:57:10,195 because the cp does not have 5188 02:57:10,565 --> 02:57:11,266 their own attorney and that's 5189 02:57:11,266 --> 02:57:14,866 what that's what we voted for. 5190 02:57:16,137 --> 02:57:16,738 And so again we want to build 5191 02:57:16,738 --> 02:57:17,373 trust and not having an 5192 02:57:17,373 --> 02:57:19,773 attorney doesn't do that. 5193 02:57:21,110 --> 02:57:21,644 But what could build trust and 5194 02:57:21,644 --> 02:57:22,211 what should open up 5195 02:57:22,211 --> 02:57:24,211 the communication with 5196 02:57:25,614 --> 02:57:26,315 the council along with 5197 02:57:26,315 --> 02:57:29,785 the community is that post is 5198 02:57:29,785 --> 02:57:30,586 in town MARCH 3rd, fourth and 5199 02:57:30,586 --> 02:57:34,890 fifth and some of our San Diego 5200 02:57:34,890 --> 02:57:34,723 pd MAY be in those particular 5201 02:57:34,723 --> 02:57:35,157 conversations and in those 5202 02:57:35,157 --> 02:57:37,157 presentations. 5203 02:57:38,894 --> 02:57:39,595 And so we need to be educated 5204 02:57:39,595 --> 02:57:43,195 and make sure that if people 5205 02:57:43,632 --> 02:57:44,400 have the time can go on MARCH 5206 02:57:44,400 --> 02:57:45,134 3rd, fourth and fifth down to 5207 02:57:45,134 --> 02:57:48,734 the post meeting which is going 5208 02:57:49,372 --> 02:57:50,720 to be down at Caltrans, very 5209 02:57:50,720 --> 02:57:52,472 important opportunity to find 5210 02:57:53,843 --> 02:57:54,577 out about other officers that 5211 02:57:54,577 --> 02:57:58,177 MAY help educate people and get 5212 02:57:58,580 --> 02:57:59,348 them to file more complaints 5213 02:57:59,348 --> 02:58:00,216 against some of our officers so 5214 02:58:00,216 --> 02:58:03,719 that we can change some of 5215 02:58:03,719 --> 02:58:04,419 the training, love 5216 02:58:04,419 --> 02:58:04,887 the direction that we're going 5217 02:58:04,887 --> 02:58:06,887 in for training. 5218 02:58:09,258 --> 02:58:09,659 But sometimes training is just 5219 02:58:09,659 --> 02:58:10,259 not enough. 5220 02:58:10,259 --> 02:58:10,927 There's an undergird and 5221 02:58:10,927 --> 02:58:13,696 there's a lot of private 5222 02:58:13,696 --> 02:58:14,463 conversations. 5223 02:58:14,463 --> 02:58:15,970 There's a lot of back door 5224 02:58:15,970 --> 02:58:17,497 conversations going on But 5225 02:58:18,267 --> 02:58:18,968 you're not holding a hearing 5226 02:58:18,968 --> 02:58:19,669 with the constituents and 5227 02:58:19,669 --> 02:58:20,169 you're not holding town halls 5228 02:58:20,169 --> 02:58:22,169 on public safety. 5229 02:58:24,600 --> 02:58:24,707 So again, let's let's let's 5230 02:58:24,707 --> 02:58:26,609 dive in and let's build trust 5231 02:58:26,609 --> 02:58:29,609 and have hard conversations in 5232 02:58:32,548 --> 02:58:33,215 safe places. 5233 02:58:33,215 --> 02:58:33,916 Madison if you can please 5234 02:58:33,916 --> 02:58:36,452 unmute after that is Andrea in 5235 02:58:36,452 --> 02:58:36,953 Madison Please unmute. 5236 02:58:36,953 --> 02:58:37,353 >> Okay. 5237 02:58:37,353 --> 02:58:37,819 Thank you. 5238 02:58:37,819 --> 02:58:39,819 Good afternoon. 5239 02:58:41,691 --> 02:58:42,460 City Council members. 5240 02:58:42,460 --> 02:58:43,920 I'm here this afternoon as a 5241 02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:45,920 community member concerned 5242 02:58:46,461 --> 02:58:47,163 about an issue affecting young 5243 02:58:47,163 --> 02:58:50,763 people in San Diego which is 5244 02:58:51,000 --> 02:58:51,601 the rise in use of inhalants 5245 02:58:51,601 --> 02:58:52,235 including nitrous oxide 5246 02:58:52,235 --> 02:58:52,602 products commonly known as 5247 02:58:52,602 --> 02:58:54,602 whippets. 5248 02:58:56,539 --> 02:58:57,173 These products are inexpensive, 5249 02:58:57,173 --> 02:58:59,573 widely available and often 5250 02:59:01,144 --> 02:59:01,811 perceived by teens as harmless 5251 02:59:01,811 --> 02:59:02,378 because they're sold legally 5252 02:59:02,378 --> 02:59:04,378 for culinary purposes. 5253 02:59:06,549 --> 02:59:07,182 But when misused, inhaling 5254 02:59:07,182 --> 02:59:09,582 nitrous oxide can deprive 5255 02:59:11,120 --> 02:59:11,988 the brain of oxygen in seconds 5256 02:59:11,988 --> 02:59:12,589 That can lead to a loss of 5257 02:59:12,589 --> 02:59:14,589 consciousness seizures, 5258 02:59:16,860 --> 02:59:17,393 traumatic falls and in some 5259 02:59:17,393 --> 02:59:19,393 cases sudden death. 5260 02:59:21,398 --> 02:59:21,798 Repeated use carries longer 5261 02:59:21,798 --> 02:59:22,432 term risks. 5262 02:59:22,432 --> 02:59:24,432 Medical professionals have 5263 02:59:26,436 --> 02:59:27,360 documented nerve damage spinal 5264 02:59:27,360 --> 02:59:29,436 cord injury, vitamin b12 5265 02:59:30,740 --> 02:59:31,440 depletion, cognitive impairment 5266 02:59:31,440 --> 02:59:32,208 ,depression and psychosis all 5267 02:59:32,208 --> 02:59:35,208 linked to heavy nitrous oxide 5268 02:59:36,813 --> 02:59:37,380 exposure because it acts so 5269 02:59:37,380 --> 02:59:38,214 quickly on the brain. 5270 02:59:38,214 --> 02:59:41,840 It can also be psychologically 5271 02:59:41,840 --> 02:59:41,651 reinforcing for adolescents 5272 02:59:41,651 --> 02:59:42,530 whose brains are still 5273 02:59:42,530 --> 02:59:44,530 developing. 5274 02:59:45,722 --> 02:59:46,389 >> What makes this especially 5275 02:59:46,389 --> 02:59:46,923 concerning is how accessible 5276 02:59:46,923 --> 02:59:47,624 these products are. 5277 02:59:47,624 --> 02:59:50,624 In many neighborhoods they are 5278 02:59:51,294 --> 02:59:51,995 sold in smoke shops alongside 5279 02:59:51,995 --> 02:59:53,995 other intoxicating substances. 5280 02:59:55,632 --> 02:59:56,333 We are normalizing retail 5281 02:59:56,333 --> 02:59:58,733 environments that cluster mind 5282 03:00:00,570 --> 03:00:01,304 altering products together and 5283 03:00:01,304 --> 03:00:02,138 our youth are paying attention. 5284 03:00:02,138 --> 03:00:05,709 As a city we often talk about 5285 03:00:05,709 --> 03:00:06,343 mental health and equity and 5286 03:00:06,343 --> 03:00:08,743 preventing youth access to 5287 03:00:09,813 --> 03:00:10,347 harmful inhalants fits squarely 5288 03:00:10,347 --> 03:00:10,981 within those goals. 5289 03:00:10,981 --> 03:00:13,981 I encourage the Council to 5290 03:00:15,151 --> 03:00:15,719 examine enforcement retailers 5291 03:00:15,719 --> 03:00:16,419 education and whether 5292 03:00:16,419 --> 03:00:18,819 additional safeguards might be 5293 03:00:20,230 --> 03:00:20,723 needed to limit youth access 5294 03:00:20,723 --> 03:00:21,291 and reduce bulk sales that 5295 03:00:21,291 --> 03:00:23,291 clearly signal misuse. 5296 03:00:25,328 --> 03:00:25,896 Brain development continues 5297 03:00:25,896 --> 03:00:26,563 into the mid-twenties. 5298 03:00:26,563 --> 03:00:29,563 The decisions we make about 5299 03:00:31,268 --> 03:00:31,901 retail environments and public 5300 03:00:31,901 --> 03:00:32,335 health protections matter. 5301 03:00:32,335 --> 03:00:32,702 >> Thank you. 5302 03:00:32,702 --> 03:00:34,702 Thank you. 5303 03:00:35,720 --> 03:00:35,739 The five minute timer did 5304 03:00:35,739 --> 03:00:36,372 conclude during her comment. 5305 03:00:36,372 --> 03:00:37,400 There were eight people in 5306 03:00:37,400 --> 03:00:39,543 the queue and no additional 5307 03:00:39,543 --> 03:00:39,943 speakers will be taken after 5308 03:00:39,943 --> 03:00:40,611 those eight. 5309 03:00:40,611 --> 03:00:41,311 Next is Andrea evening and 5310 03:00:41,311 --> 03:00:44,470 after that is phone number 5311 03:00:44,470 --> 03:00:44,615 ending and 8707 for 99. 5312 03:00:44,615 --> 03:00:46,615 Please proceed Andrea. 5313 03:00:51,288 --> 03:00:52,220 Is Andrea ebbing and I am a 5314 03:00:52,220 --> 03:00:55,220 mother of three beautiful girls 5315 03:00:57,161 --> 03:00:57,524 who were all abducted from San 5316 03:00:57,524 --> 03:00:58,161 Diego. 5317 03:00:58,161 --> 03:00:58,762 They're in two separate states 5318 03:00:58,762 --> 03:01:01,162 with two felony charge 5319 03:01:01,865 --> 03:01:02,232 perpetrators of domestic 5320 03:01:02,232 --> 03:01:02,933 violence. 5321 03:01:02,933 --> 03:01:06,533 With me as their name victim. 5322 03:01:06,804 --> 03:01:07,504 So my daughters were ripped out 5323 03:01:07,504 --> 03:01:11,104 of their home away from each 5324 03:01:11,375 --> 03:01:14,375 other, taken thousands of miles 5325 03:01:16,120 --> 03:01:16,747 away from me and each other on 5326 03:01:16,747 --> 03:01:17,347 a permanently suspended license 5327 03:01:17,347 --> 03:01:20,347 by somebody who just had 5328 03:01:21,151 --> 03:01:21,919 strangled me on video. 5329 03:01:21,919 --> 03:01:22,653 My other ex, the one who paid 5330 03:01:22,653 --> 03:01:25,653 for their shared attorney whose 5331 03:01:25,822 --> 03:01:26,557 name is Ben Embry who is also 5332 03:01:26,557 --> 03:01:30,157 an attorney and another case in 5333 03:01:30,561 --> 03:01:31,461 which summer Stephan protected 5334 03:01:31,461 --> 03:01:34,461 and defended only her husband 5335 03:01:35,899 --> 03:01:36,367 and perpetrator who is a Rancho 5336 03:01:36,367 --> 03:01:37,340 Santa Fe doctor. 5337 03:01:37,340 --> 03:01:37,368 >> This woman was pushed to 5338 03:01:37,368 --> 03:01:39,368 suicide. 5339 03:01:40,337 --> 03:01:40,904 Her name is Alexander von 5340 03:01:40,904 --> 03:01:42,904 Alexander von Tonder. 5341 03:01:44,808 --> 03:01:45,242 She survived but she was 5342 03:01:45,242 --> 03:01:46,760 abandoned too. 5343 03:01:46,760 --> 03:01:49,676 We are traumatized And I know 5344 03:01:50,114 --> 03:01:51,810 you got these emails and I want 5345 03:01:51,810 --> 03:01:54,885 to know like it is you people 5346 03:01:54,885 --> 03:01:55,286 sitting up there did not take 5347 03:01:55,286 --> 03:01:55,953 my children. 5348 03:01:55,953 --> 03:01:58,953 You didn't sell my children. 5349 03:02:00,357 --> 03:02:01,910 Judge Paula Rosenstein did 5350 03:02:01,910 --> 03:02:01,825 summer stuff and did Harold all 5351 03:02:01,825 --> 03:02:05,290 of her Did you kill your mom? 5352 03:02:05,290 --> 03:02:08,629 Did Billy Driver or did Kelly 5353 03:02:09,867 --> 03:02:13,467 Thomas did did haul into fire 5354 03:02:13,704 --> 03:02:14,505 did right So but when I'm 5355 03:02:14,505 --> 03:02:17,505 reporting stuff like my ex's 5356 03:02:18,576 --> 03:02:19,276 partner is an opioid dealer who 5357 03:02:19,276 --> 03:02:21,676 had written 78,000 scripts and 5358 03:02:22,279 --> 03:02:22,980 dead people and prisoners names 5359 03:02:22,980 --> 03:02:23,648 and had rehab patients and 5360 03:02:23,648 --> 03:02:26,648 homeless people pick them up 5361 03:02:27,451 --> 03:02:28,319 and distribute those drugs and 5362 03:02:28,319 --> 03:02:29,530 he only got 18 months for it 5363 03:02:29,530 --> 03:02:32,530 After his sixth medical license 5364 03:02:33,357 --> 03:02:34,240 revocation as well as Prakash 5365 03:02:34,240 --> 03:02:34,725 Bashir, a psychiatrist that 5366 03:02:34,725 --> 03:02:37,661 summer Stephan used to commit 5367 03:02:37,661 --> 03:02:38,329 Nancy Sussman is also an opioid 5368 03:02:38,329 --> 03:02:38,963 dealer And then these people 5369 03:02:38,963 --> 03:02:41,363 continue to get contracts. 5370 03:02:42,600 --> 03:02:43,234 I'm begging you guys to hold 5371 03:02:43,234 --> 03:02:43,835 these people accountable. 5372 03:02:43,835 --> 03:02:46,938 I don't know if you have 5373 03:02:46,938 --> 03:02:47,605 the power to do it but I am 5374 03:02:47,605 --> 03:02:48,272 begging you to hear my voice 5375 03:02:48,272 --> 03:02:51,272 because we need each other. 5376 03:02:52,243 --> 03:02:52,643 Thank you. 5377 03:02:52,643 --> 03:02:53,511 Thank you. 5378 03:02:53,511 --> 03:02:56,981 Next is 8700 if you can please 5379 03:02:56,981 --> 03:02:57,582 unmute after that is 74998 700. 5380 03:02:57,582 --> 03:02:59,582 There you go. 5381 03:03:03,120 --> 03:03:03,921 I thank you. 5382 03:03:03,921 --> 03:03:04,722 I join you out of the three. 5383 03:03:04,722 --> 03:03:06,157 A couple of things before I 5384 03:03:06,157 --> 03:03:08,157 make my point. 5385 03:03:10,495 --> 03:03:11,229 PRESIDENT Thank you For what 5386 03:03:11,229 --> 03:03:11,963 you said regarding the budget 5387 03:03:11,963 --> 03:03:15,563 on that Ali naming item I 5388 03:03:15,733 --> 03:03:18,133 really really appreciated that 5389 03:03:20,104 --> 03:03:20,872 That was just such a little 5390 03:03:20,872 --> 03:03:21,239 thing but it was a great 5391 03:03:21,239 --> 03:03:21,606 statement. 5392 03:03:21,606 --> 03:03:23,606 Thank you. 5393 03:03:25,243 --> 03:03:25,943 Now I want to say this before I 5394 03:03:25,943 --> 03:03:26,611 get to my main point I'm 5395 03:03:26,611 --> 03:03:26,911 probably going to run out of 5396 03:03:26,911 --> 03:03:28,911 time. 5397 03:03:29,447 --> 03:03:29,781 City Clerk But anyway, so be it 5398 03:03:29,781 --> 03:03:30,515 . 5399 03:03:30,515 --> 03:03:32,915 San Diego County Water 5400 03:03:34,419 --> 03:03:35,453 Authority. 5401 03:03:35,453 --> 03:03:39,324 When are we going to wake up to 5402 03:03:39,324 --> 03:03:39,991 them Now? 5403 03:03:39,991 --> 03:03:42,991 I'm going to research this 5404 03:03:43,395 --> 03:03:44,950 later But are they Do they have 5405 03:03:44,950 --> 03:03:47,950 a vested interest and are 5406 03:03:49,000 --> 03:03:49,868 legally obligated to do what 5407 03:03:49,868 --> 03:03:53,471 they make us do with the 50% or 5408 03:03:53,471 --> 03:03:54,272 if it to do with being they 5409 03:03:54,272 --> 03:03:54,873 don't pay for it or whatever? 5410 03:03:54,873 --> 03:03:57,273 What are they doing? 5411 03:03:58,676 --> 03:03:59,377 Are they putting ourselves Are 5412 03:03:59,377 --> 03:03:59,811 they just I don't get what's 5413 03:03:59,811 --> 03:04:01,811 going on here. 5414 03:04:03,748 --> 03:04:04,820 We have a great city attorney's 5415 03:04:04,820 --> 03:04:06,820 office. 5416 03:04:07,886 --> 03:04:08,586 Why don't they know legally 5417 03:04:08,586 --> 03:04:11,586 obligated to do with these 5418 03:04:13,391 --> 03:04:13,825 people And it's not a blessing 5419 03:04:13,825 --> 03:04:14,759 to the people. 5420 03:04:14,759 --> 03:04:18,359 It's the systems that they work 5421 03:04:18,930 --> 03:04:19,431 with that they condone that 5422 03:04:19,431 --> 03:04:20,398 make me so angry. 5423 03:04:20,398 --> 03:04:23,168 So I'll have to wait and speak 5424 03:04:23,168 --> 03:04:24,200 later. 5425 03:04:24,200 --> 03:04:27,200 But I'll say something briefly. 5426 03:04:27,772 --> 03:04:28,473 I'll speak on that Colorado 5427 03:04:28,473 --> 03:04:30,873 River crisis article probably 5428 03:04:32,343 --> 03:04:33,311 tomorrow. 5429 03:04:33,311 --> 03:04:34,120 But I just want to say that if 5430 03:04:34,120 --> 03:04:37,612 you go before the water comes 5431 03:04:38,617 --> 03:04:39,217 out of the dams that's at 5432 03:04:39,217 --> 03:04:39,885 the fence and within to 5433 03:04:39,885 --> 03:04:42,285 reservoir which is 15 miles 5434 03:04:42,821 --> 03:04:43,622 northeast of the city and then 5435 03:04:43,622 --> 03:04:47,222 you go north in a canoe 5436 03:04:47,959 --> 03:04:48,527 backwards look at that network, 5437 03:04:48,527 --> 03:04:49,194 start with the snow in 5438 03:04:49,194 --> 03:04:51,897 the mountains and throw our 5439 03:04:51,897 --> 03:04:52,531 water down. 5440 03:04:52,531 --> 03:04:52,898 You won't believe what's 5441 03:04:52,898 --> 03:04:54,898 happening. 5442 03:04:57,869 --> 03:04:58,436 It's not nice and we've got to 5443 03:04:58,436 --> 03:04:58,870 do something about it. 5444 03:04:58,870 --> 03:04:59,638 >> Thank you. 5445 03:04:59,638 --> 03:05:02,440 Love to all Thank you. 5446 03:05:02,440 --> 03:05:03,442 Next 27499 if you come please 5447 03:05:03,442 --> 03:05:06,845 on mute After that is back you 5448 03:05:06,845 --> 03:05:09,845 wrap for Bob Kozinski here. 5449 03:05:10,682 --> 03:05:11,416 >> I've noticed that more and 5450 03:05:11,416 --> 03:05:12,170 more city departments are using 5451 03:05:12,170 --> 03:05:14,417 constant contact to send 5452 03:05:15,654 --> 03:05:16,522 marketing email to citizens. 5453 03:05:16,522 --> 03:05:16,988 So I did a search on constant 5454 03:05:16,988 --> 03:05:18,988 contact abuses. 5455 03:05:20,124 --> 03:05:20,959 Here's what and a summary that 5456 03:05:20,959 --> 03:05:21,627 I got back said quote Constant 5457 03:05:21,627 --> 03:05:24,270 contact has been associated 5458 03:05:25,464 --> 03:05:26,131 with various abuses including 5459 03:05:26,131 --> 03:05:26,865 credential phishing attacks 5460 03:05:26,865 --> 03:05:29,265 where threat actors compromised 5461 03:05:30,269 --> 03:05:30,569 accounts to send malicious 5462 03:05:30,569 --> 03:05:31,203 email. 5463 03:05:31,203 --> 03:05:33,203 These incidents highlight 5464 03:05:35,107 --> 03:05:35,673 the risks of using shared email 5465 03:05:35,673 --> 03:05:36,374 marketing platforms as 5466 03:05:36,374 --> 03:05:38,774 compromised accounts can lead 5467 03:05:39,812 --> 03:05:40,445 to widespread phishing attempts 5468 03:05:40,445 --> 03:05:41,146 leveraging the platform's 5469 03:05:41,146 --> 03:05:41,546 trusted reputation to deceive 5470 03:05:41,546 --> 03:05:43,546 recipients. 5471 03:05:45,551 --> 03:05:46,285 Cybercriminals have also abused 5472 03:05:46,285 --> 03:05:46,919 content contacts infrastructure 5473 03:05:46,919 --> 03:05:49,319 to create malicious links 5474 03:05:50,722 --> 03:05:51,230 leading to credential theft and 5475 03:05:51,230 --> 03:05:51,623 quote. 5476 03:05:51,623 --> 03:05:54,893 So why is the city using 5477 03:05:54,893 --> 03:05:55,327 constant contact to communicate 5478 03:05:55,327 --> 03:05:56,270 with citizens? 5479 03:05:56,270 --> 03:05:56,729 For example, the city clerk's 5480 03:05:56,729 --> 03:05:59,798 website has a button that says 5481 03:05:59,798 --> 03:06:00,533 quote Sign up for city council 5482 03:06:00,533 --> 03:06:00,933 agenda and updates distribution 5483 03:06:00,933 --> 03:06:02,933 list quote. 5484 03:06:04,503 --> 03:06:05,170 But that link goes to constant 5485 03:06:05,170 --> 03:06:05,904 contact pages.Com The city's 5486 03:06:05,904 --> 03:06:08,304 Parks and Recreation department 5487 03:06:09,375 --> 03:06:10,109 has a link title quote Sign up 5488 03:06:10,109 --> 03:06:13,109 to receive meeting agendas news 5489 03:06:14,113 --> 03:06:14,880 and updates end quote. 5490 03:06:14,880 --> 03:06:15,581 But there sign up link also 5491 03:06:15,581 --> 03:06:18,830 goes to constant contact icon. 5492 03:06:18,830 --> 03:06:18,717 Why can't the city send its own 5493 03:06:18,717 --> 03:06:19,451 email messages to citizens 5494 03:06:19,451 --> 03:06:19,819 without involving a third party 5495 03:06:19,819 --> 03:06:21,819 business? 5496 03:06:22,787 --> 03:06:23,389 Similarly why are the City 5497 03:06:23,389 --> 03:06:25,389 Council agenda archives 5498 03:06:27,726 --> 03:06:28,626 maintained by Highland Cloud? 5499 03:06:28,626 --> 03:06:29,295 If you go to the city Clerk's 5500 03:06:29,295 --> 03:06:31,464 website City clerk Official 5501 03:06:31,464 --> 03:06:32,131 Docs Ledgers Docs Brown Act 5502 03:06:32,131 --> 03:06:32,831 you'll find that the current 5503 03:06:32,831 --> 03:06:33,298 agenda in pdf format is there. 5504 03:06:33,298 --> 03:06:35,298 It's beautiful. 5505 03:06:36,701 --> 03:06:37,370 Thank you City Clerk. 5506 03:06:37,370 --> 03:06:37,870 But none of the archived 5507 03:06:37,870 --> 03:06:39,870 agendas are there. 5508 03:06:41,273 --> 03:06:41,941 Instead there's a link to quote 5509 03:06:41,941 --> 03:06:42,642 past agendas and minutes and 5510 03:06:42,642 --> 03:06:45,642 that link of course redirects 5511 03:06:45,878 --> 03:06:46,645 to Highland cloud.Com. 5512 03:06:46,645 --> 03:06:47,346 Why is it that the city Clerk 5513 03:06:47,346 --> 03:06:50,916 can post the current agenda to 5514 03:06:50,916 --> 03:06:51,684 the city's own website but 5515 03:06:51,684 --> 03:06:52,180 can't just leave it there as an 5516 03:06:52,180 --> 03:06:54,180 archive? 5517 03:06:55,387 --> 03:06:56,550 Why is the city paying private 5518 03:06:56,550 --> 03:06:56,388 businesses to deliver public 5519 03:06:56,388 --> 03:06:57,560 content? 5520 03:06:57,560 --> 03:07:00,560 As we've learned from Torrey 5521 03:07:00,360 --> 03:07:00,993 Pines Glider Port the mixture 5522 03:07:00,993 --> 03:07:01,661 of government monopoly and 5523 03:07:01,661 --> 03:07:04,661 private greed is never good. 5524 03:07:05,531 --> 03:07:06,265 Please stop selling your 5525 03:07:06,265 --> 03:07:06,699 citizens to private businesses. 5526 03:07:06,699 --> 03:07:08,699 >> Thank you. 5527 03:07:10,837 --> 03:07:11,704 Thank you. 5528 03:07:11,704 --> 03:07:12,438 Next is Becky Wrap if you can 5529 03:07:12,438 --> 03:07:15,141 please unmute Also if you raise 5530 03:07:15,141 --> 03:07:15,875 your hand after the five minute 5531 03:07:15,875 --> 03:07:16,509 timer we will not be able to 5532 03:07:16,509 --> 03:07:17,210 take you today but you can 5533 03:07:17,210 --> 03:07:19,610 definitely email your comments 5534 03:07:19,945 --> 03:07:20,646 in the city clerk at San Diego 5535 03:07:20,646 --> 03:07:21,114 and those will be distributed. 5536 03:07:21,114 --> 03:07:23,114 Please proceed. 5537 03:07:24,416 --> 03:07:25,284 Becky. 5538 03:07:25,284 --> 03:07:25,984 >> Thank you and good afternoon 5539 03:07:25,984 --> 03:07:26,319 Council PRESIDENT And council 5540 03:07:26,319 --> 03:07:28,319 members. 5541 03:07:29,755 --> 03:07:30,490 My name is Becky Rapp and today 5542 03:07:30,490 --> 03:07:34,900 I'd like to draw your attention 5543 03:07:34,127 --> 03:07:34,761 to a major new brain imaging 5544 03:07:34,761 --> 03:07:35,461 study published in jama by 5545 03:07:35,461 --> 03:07:37,861 researchers at the University 5546 03:07:38,631 --> 03:07:39,331 of Colorado. 5547 03:07:39,331 --> 03:07:42,931 This was the largest mri study 5548 03:07:43,200 --> 03:07:43,702 ever conducted on marijuana and 5549 03:07:43,702 --> 03:07:44,404 cognition testing more than a 5550 03:07:44,404 --> 03:07:46,804 thousand young adults between 5551 03:07:47,506 --> 03:07:48,207 the ages of 22 and 36. 5552 03:07:48,207 --> 03:07:50,607 Findings are very concerning. 5553 03:07:51,944 --> 03:07:52,645 Heavy marijuana use was 5554 03:07:52,645 --> 03:07:54,645 associated with significantly 5555 03:07:56,416 --> 03:07:57,182 reduced brain activity. 5556 03:07:57,182 --> 03:07:59,582 63% of users showed diminished 5557 03:08:01,454 --> 03:08:02,155 neural response. 5558 03:08:02,155 --> 03:08:02,722 The reduced activity was seen 5559 03:08:02,722 --> 03:08:05,722 in parts of the brain 5560 03:08:05,925 --> 03:08:06,492 responsible for executive 5561 03:08:06,492 --> 03:08:07,600 control, attention and 5562 03:08:07,600 --> 03:08:07,727 emotional processing. 5563 03:08:07,727 --> 03:08:11,327 These are the very areas we 5564 03:08:11,464 --> 03:08:12,980 rely on for judgment, impulse 5565 03:08:12,980 --> 03:08:12,432 control and safe decision 5566 03:08:12,432 --> 03:08:14,432 making. 5567 03:08:16,269 --> 03:08:16,970 Young adulthood is a critical 5568 03:08:16,970 --> 03:08:19,970 time for brain development and 5569 03:08:20,440 --> 03:08:21,141 exposure to high potency 5570 03:08:21,141 --> 03:08:21,907 marijuana which is being sold 5571 03:08:21,907 --> 03:08:25,507 in our city's pot shops has 5572 03:08:25,779 --> 03:08:26,545 serious consequences. 5573 03:08:26,545 --> 03:08:27,247 I urge this Council to ensure 5574 03:08:27,247 --> 03:08:29,647 that public education and 5575 03:08:31,170 --> 03:08:31,384 prevention become a top 5576 03:08:31,384 --> 03:08:32,185 priority. 5577 03:08:32,185 --> 03:08:35,722 San Diego has an opportunity to 5578 03:08:35,722 --> 03:08:36,560 lead with evidence based 5579 03:08:36,560 --> 03:08:36,856 studies. 5580 03:08:36,856 --> 03:08:40,456 So I urge this Council to 5581 03:08:40,960 --> 03:08:41,594 consider what will the future 5582 03:08:41,594 --> 03:08:41,895 look like look like in San 5583 03:08:41,895 --> 03:08:43,895 Diego? 5584 03:08:44,931 --> 03:08:45,565 If younger generations are 5585 03:08:45,565 --> 03:08:46,132 suffering from preventable 5586 03:08:46,132 --> 03:08:48,132 cognitive impairment. 5587 03:08:49,902 --> 03:08:50,403 Thank you. 5588 03:08:50,403 --> 03:08:50,971 >> Thank you. 5589 03:08:50,971 --> 03:08:53,371 Next is John Stump. 5590 03:08:57,911 --> 03:08:58,310 If you can please unmute the. 5591 03:08:58,310 --> 03:09:00,310 Thank you. 5592 03:09:03,483 --> 03:09:07,921 To be quick I want to talk to 5593 03:09:07,921 --> 03:09:08,587 particularly the PRESIDENT And 5594 03:09:08,587 --> 03:09:11,587 the council about the format 5595 03:09:12,592 --> 03:09:15,592 and content of staff reports. 5596 03:09:17,640 --> 03:09:20,664 The format and content of staff 5597 03:09:22,680 --> 03:09:22,803 reports needs to be seriously 5598 03:09:22,803 --> 03:09:25,803 reviewed to consider what's not 5599 03:09:27,207 --> 03:09:27,975 in there and what's not in 5600 03:09:27,975 --> 03:09:31,575 there is that free lunches and 5601 03:09:32,450 --> 03:09:32,746 hidden subsidy. 5602 03:09:32,746 --> 03:09:33,413 The council PRESIDENT Made a 5603 03:09:33,413 --> 03:09:36,413 good point about the street 5604 03:09:37,551 --> 03:09:41,522 side and its cost but of course 5605 03:09:41,522 --> 03:09:42,121 those costs didn't include 5606 03:09:42,121 --> 03:09:42,890 the cost to install and 5607 03:09:42,890 --> 03:09:46,490 the cost to have that on 5608 03:09:46,593 --> 03:09:48,593 the agenda today. 5609 03:09:51,565 --> 03:09:52,299 Hidden subsidies. 5610 03:09:52,299 --> 03:09:55,299 Many organizations who do great 5611 03:09:56,136 --> 03:09:56,702 things get a free lunch. 5612 03:09:56,702 --> 03:09:59,102 They get support from 5613 03:10:00,874 --> 03:10:01,341 the council for their lease or 5614 03:10:01,341 --> 03:10:03,341 their activity. 5615 03:10:05,612 --> 03:10:06,381 But the council never considers 5616 03:10:06,381 --> 03:10:09,981 what it costs to maintain that 5617 03:10:11,185 --> 03:10:11,952 facility or activate. 5618 03:10:11,952 --> 03:10:12,286 In the end I'll give you an 5619 03:10:12,286 --> 03:10:13,200 example. 5620 03:10:13,200 --> 03:10:16,190 You know the Lake Hodges thing 5621 03:10:16,190 --> 03:10:17,124 is a clear example. 5622 03:10:17,124 --> 03:10:20,327 One guy one group says we don't 5623 03:10:20,327 --> 03:10:20,827 need like Hodges and we don't 5624 03:10:20,827 --> 03:10:22,827 want to subsidize. 5625 03:10:24,798 --> 03:10:25,165 That's a sound decision at 5626 03:10:25,165 --> 03:10:27,165 the city. 5627 03:10:29,803 --> 03:10:33,403 It's get we have SeaWorld which 5628 03:10:34,441 --> 03:10:35,209 has a contract which provides 5629 03:10:35,209 --> 03:10:35,909 for reimbursement of this to 5630 03:10:35,909 --> 03:10:39,509 the city and the city costs 5631 03:10:39,947 --> 03:10:40,681 associate it with SeaWorld 5632 03:10:40,681 --> 03:10:43,681 activities But the other venues 5633 03:10:44,985 --> 03:10:45,686 operate like the zoo my 5634 03:10:45,686 --> 03:10:48,860 favorite and they don't 5635 03:10:49,557 --> 03:10:53,157 reimburse the city for its cost 5636 03:10:53,894 --> 03:10:54,528 just because they say we're 5637 03:10:54,528 --> 03:10:57,528 going to bring in revenues 5638 03:10:59,330 --> 03:10:59,767 really is not financial 5639 03:10:59,767 --> 03:11:02,767 analysis that's betting on that 5640 03:11:04,238 --> 03:11:04,705 Come okay Thank you very much. 5641 03:11:04,705 --> 03:11:05,673 >> Thank you. 5642 03:11:05,673 --> 03:11:08,442 Next is Judy Strang If you can 5643 03:11:08,442 --> 03:11:09,176 please unmute. 5644 03:11:09,176 --> 03:11:11,576 >> Good afternoon City Council. 5645 03:11:13,848 --> 03:11:14,515 Thank you for this opportunity 5646 03:11:14,515 --> 03:11:14,782 to share some thoughts I've 5647 03:11:14,782 --> 03:11:16,782 had. 5648 03:11:17,919 --> 03:11:18,552 We are planning our afterschool 5649 03:11:18,552 --> 03:11:20,952 program for mentoring and 5650 03:11:22,590 --> 03:11:23,257 touring of bike lanes for 5651 03:11:23,257 --> 03:11:24,225 elementary school students. 5652 03:11:24,225 --> 03:11:28,195 And as such I receive a lot of 5653 03:11:28,195 --> 03:11:29,163 information about research 5654 03:11:29,163 --> 03:11:33,234 going on for teens and a lot of 5655 03:11:33,234 --> 03:11:33,901 information regarding 5656 03:11:33,901 --> 03:11:34,569 the challenges they face And 5657 03:11:34,569 --> 03:11:38,169 since I work with them every 5658 03:11:38,339 --> 03:11:39,730 day I get to see it firsthand. 5659 03:11:39,730 --> 03:11:42,730 A previous speaker mentioned a 5660 03:11:43,100 --> 03:11:43,711 research that's just come out 5661 03:11:43,711 --> 03:11:44,245 and reported in the Journal of 5662 03:11:44,245 --> 03:11:46,245 the American Medical 5663 03:11:47,882 --> 03:11:48,549 Association And I'd like to 5664 03:11:48,549 --> 03:11:49,217 tell you a little bit more 5665 03:11:49,217 --> 03:11:49,751 about it because it gets to 5666 03:11:49,751 --> 03:11:52,253 the heart of some of 5667 03:11:52,253 --> 03:11:52,920 the questions that we've had 5668 03:11:52,920 --> 03:11:55,320 regarding marijuana use and 5669 03:11:56,624 --> 03:11:57,240 mental health issues which 5670 03:11:57,240 --> 03:11:57,959 causes what? 5671 03:11:57,959 --> 03:12:01,559 This is a research using Kaiser 5672 03:12:02,230 --> 03:12:04,630 Permanente health system in 5673 03:12:06,301 --> 03:12:07,670 Northern California. 5674 03:12:07,670 --> 03:12:09,670 460,000 teenagers were followed 5675 03:12:10,471 --> 03:12:11,139 until they were 25 years old. 5676 03:12:11,139 --> 03:12:14,139 They were asked about their 5677 03:12:15,210 --> 03:12:15,944 marijuana use and then later if 5678 03:12:15,944 --> 03:12:16,644 they had mental health issues 5679 03:12:16,644 --> 03:12:19,644 they were trying to understand 5680 03:12:20,810 --> 03:12:20,849 what came first. 5681 03:12:20,849 --> 03:12:21,449 So they did not include in 5682 03:12:21,449 --> 03:12:24,449 the study anyone who was 5683 03:12:25,190 --> 03:12:25,453 already showing signs of mental 5684 03:12:25,453 --> 03:12:26,153 health issues. 5685 03:12:26,153 --> 03:12:29,753 They could just wanted to make 5686 03:12:29,758 --> 03:12:30,524 the connection between cannabis 5687 03:12:30,524 --> 03:12:31,426 use and mental health issues. 5688 03:12:31,426 --> 03:12:34,729 So they found that there was a 5689 03:12:34,729 --> 03:12:35,496 high number of teens who began 5690 03:12:35,496 --> 03:12:38,660 cannabis use as young teens who 5691 03:12:38,660 --> 03:12:41,660 later manifest in mental health 5692 03:12:43,700 --> 03:12:43,805 issues. 5693 03:12:43,805 --> 03:12:44,439 And particular the two they 5694 03:12:44,439 --> 03:12:46,839 noticed were the psychotic 5695 03:12:48,760 --> 03:12:48,543 disorders like schizophrenia as 5696 03:12:48,543 --> 03:12:50,543 well as bipolar. 5697 03:12:53,148 --> 03:12:53,782 These two particular diseases 5698 03:12:53,782 --> 03:12:56,182 are extremely expensive to 5699 03:12:58,860 --> 03:12:58,653 treat and debilitating for 5700 03:12:58,653 --> 03:12:59,321 everyone around them. 5701 03:12:59,321 --> 03:13:02,657 i think it becomes ever more 5702 03:13:02,657 --> 03:13:03,258 important for us to understand 5703 03:13:03,258 --> 03:13:03,992 the role of marijuana in 5704 03:13:03,992 --> 03:13:07,996 the role of our young people as 5705 03:13:07,996 --> 03:13:08,363 they travel this journey to 5706 03:13:08,363 --> 03:13:08,797 adulthood. 5707 03:13:08,797 --> 03:13:09,164 >> Thank you. 5708 03:13:09,164 --> 03:13:11,164 Thank you. 5709 03:13:13,135 --> 03:13:13,769 Next is Barbara Gordon If you 5710 03:13:13,769 --> 03:13:16,169 can please unmute Barbara. 5711 03:13:17,139 --> 03:13:17,639 Your final speaker. 5712 03:13:17,639 --> 03:13:19,639 >> Good afternoon. 5713 03:13:22,430 --> 03:13:22,710 I am here today to urge you to 5714 03:13:22,710 --> 03:13:25,710 address the alarming rise in 5715 03:13:27,820 --> 03:13:27,716 tobacco pouches such as Xen and 5716 03:13:27,716 --> 03:13:30,716 their impact on our youth. 5717 03:13:31,720 --> 03:13:32,454 These products marketed by 5718 03:13:32,454 --> 03:13:35,454 the tobacco industry as tobacco 5719 03:13:36,758 --> 03:13:37,492 free contain but that contain 5720 03:13:37,492 --> 03:13:40,492 nicotine are often perceived as 5721 03:13:40,929 --> 03:13:41,396 harmless particularly by 5722 03:13:41,396 --> 03:13:42,970 younger people. 5723 03:13:42,970 --> 03:13:45,970 Our high school and college 5724 03:13:45,867 --> 03:13:46,335 campuses are littered with 5725 03:13:46,335 --> 03:13:46,969 these packages. 5726 03:13:46,969 --> 03:13:49,969 These the low risk of 5727 03:13:50,372 --> 03:13:51,106 perception has led to 5728 03:13:51,106 --> 03:13:53,506 the increase of experimentation 5729 03:13:54,977 --> 03:13:55,677 and addiction among adolescents 5730 03:13:55,677 --> 03:13:58,770 jeopardizing their health and 5731 03:14:00,248 --> 03:14:00,816 future nicotine pouches during 5732 03:14:00,816 --> 03:14:01,383 adolescence can cause 5733 03:14:01,383 --> 03:14:03,383 significant cognitive 5734 03:14:04,953 --> 03:14:05,620 impairment and negatively 5735 03:14:05,620 --> 03:14:08,200 affect in attention learning 5736 03:14:09,892 --> 03:14:10,592 and impulse control. 5737 03:14:10,592 --> 03:14:11,260 Furthermore, young people who 5738 03:14:11,260 --> 03:14:14,260 use tobacco pouches are more 5739 03:14:14,930 --> 03:14:15,630 likely to transition to 5740 03:14:15,630 --> 03:14:17,630 traditional cigarets marijuana 5741 03:14:20,602 --> 03:14:21,236 and perpetuating the cycle of 5742 03:14:21,236 --> 03:14:21,970 addiction and health risk. 5743 03:14:21,970 --> 03:14:24,970 The flavored varieties of these 5744 03:14:25,107 --> 03:14:25,707 products further entice youth 5745 03:14:25,707 --> 03:14:28,107 masking the harshness of 5746 03:14:30,450 --> 03:14:30,579 tobacco making it easier for 5747 03:14:30,579 --> 03:14:31,346 them to start using. 5748 03:14:31,346 --> 03:14:34,817 I am asking the City Council to 5749 03:14:34,817 --> 03:14:35,584 consider a public service 5750 03:14:35,584 --> 03:14:38,584 campaign or initiative to raise 5751 03:14:40,588 --> 03:14:41,222 the awareness about the dangers 5752 03:14:41,222 --> 03:14:41,957 of these tobacco pouches. 5753 03:14:41,957 --> 03:14:44,957 By working together we can 5754 03:14:45,694 --> 03:14:46,395 foster a healthy environment 5755 03:14:46,395 --> 03:14:49,395 for our youth protecting them 5756 03:14:49,865 --> 03:14:50,532 from the manipulative tactics 5757 03:14:50,532 --> 03:14:53,532 of the tobacco industry and 5758 03:14:54,403 --> 03:14:55,104 ultimately reducing 5759 03:14:55,104 --> 03:14:55,604 the prevalence of tobacco use 5760 03:14:55,604 --> 03:14:57,604 in our community. 5761 03:15:00,409 --> 03:15:00,876 Thank you for letting me speak. 5762 03:15:00,876 --> 03:15:01,577 >> Thank you. 5763 03:15:01,577 --> 03:15:04,480 That does conclude our agenda 5764 03:15:04,480 --> 03:15:04,814 Public comment for this meeting 5765 03:15:04,814 --> 03:15:05,181 . 5766 03:15:05,181 --> 03:15:05,781 All right. 5767 03:15:05,781 --> 03:15:08,181 Thank you, City Clerk. 5768 03:15:09,719 --> 03:15:10,386 Does the city attorney have 5769 03:15:10,386 --> 03:15:10,853 anything to report out from 5770 03:15:10,853 --> 03:15:11,554 closed session? 5771 03:15:11,554 --> 03:15:12,880 There is nothing to report out 5772 03:15:12,880 --> 03:15:14,880 from closed session. 5773 03:15:14,290 --> 03:15:14,989 All right. 5774 03:15:14,989 --> 03:15:15,691 Thank you for confirming that. 5775 03:15:15,691 --> 03:15:16,425 We will now adjourn council to 5776 03:15:16,425 --> 03:15:18,825 the regularly scheduled council 5777 03:15:19,161 --> 03:15:22,161 meeting on Tuesday MARCH 3rd,