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Call the City Council meeting of Monday, March 2nd, 2026 to order, clerk, please call the roll.

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Thank you, Council President. Council member Campbell.

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Council member Whippern.

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Council member Foster.

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Here. Council member von Woper. Council President Protemling. Here. Council member Campio. Council member Morano.

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President, Council Member Ello Rivera, and Council President LaCava.

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Also saying the meeting our city attorney Heather Ferber, independent budget analyst Charles

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Monica, and myself, your city clerk, Diana Fuentes.

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All right, thank you, city clerk.

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The quorum is now present.

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We will begin this morning with an indication by clerk Fuentes, followed with the line of

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acknowledgement and the pledge of allegiance led by Council Member Foster.

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Grant those who hold office in this city, the spirit of wisdom, charity, and justice that

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at Fast Purpose, they may faithfully serve in their offices to promote the well-being of

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all people.

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We respectfully acknowledge that the Kumiyai Nation are the original inhabitants

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of the Unceded Land now known as San Diego. Despite enduring the horrors of genocide and

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colonization, the Kumiyai spirit remains unbroken. We honor the resilience of their ancestors who

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fought to protect their culture and land. Today, they carry their legacy forward ensuring that

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traditions continue to thrive in gratitude and strength. We stand with the

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Kumi I nation, connected to our past, and committed to a thriving future.

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Please face the flag, hand over your heart, and begin.

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I pledge allegiance.

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Frank, please go over how the public can offer their testimony.

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Thank you, Council President. I like to highlight the slide on the screen that reviews how

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the public can offer their public testimony during today's meeting. If you're in person,

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please complete a speaker so I look at the entrance of chambers and bring it to the front of

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room. No further in person, testimony will be taken once the council begins virtual testimony.

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For better meeting, management purposes, each people will have one minute per item per person,

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for a maximum of three minutes if three or more items are on the agenda.

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Thank you, council President. All right. Thank you. And with that, please read the close session

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items into the record and proceed with public comment. Thank you. Conference with legal counsel

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existing litigation, percent California Government Code Section 54956.9D1 is the S1

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Maria Natalie Brazil versus City of San Diego,

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conference at Libra Negotiate is presented

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to California Government Code Section 549-57.6.

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It's the S2 City Designate Management Team

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representative.

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The purpose of this co-session meeting

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is to review the city's position

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and instruct the city's designated representatives

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regarding meeting conferred negotiations.

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First successor memorandum of Understanding

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with San Diego Municipal Employees Association,

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American Federation of State County,

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and municipal employees, local 127,

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Deputy City Attorney's Association of San Diego

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San Diego City Firefighters IAFF Local 145 California Teamsters Local 1986 and San Diego Police Officers Association

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If you'd like to speak to these items, please be sure to submit a speaker to the Father Room

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If you're participating virtually now's the time to raise your hand.

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There are no speakers here in Council Chambers going to those participating virtually have started the five minute timer

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Phone number adding ending in 8700 if you can please unmute and let me know which item or items you wish to speak to.

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I thank you one and two.

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You'll have two minutes, please proceed.

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Thank you.

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Joyce and Yada, C-B-3, C-S-1, Trippinfall.

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I was wanting one of you to pull item in city attorney's office with provide status and seek direction.

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This must have been a very serious trippinfall to have happened over seven years ago.

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that perhaps there are extending way to circumstances.

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I would really like to know what is caused, delay,

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and set a legal investigation for all these years,

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love to all.

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I'm CS2 of the International Association.

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I want you to know that I rewrote and rewrote my comments

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for this item three times, I just couldn't do it.

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Finally, this morning, I decided to just be from my heart

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So I'll say this, at this negotiation table, I invite all of you present to step out of your

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roles and become a family member sitting together at a kitchen table to figure out how to balance

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the family budget. Is there an opportunity to cut up the budget pie that's fair to all?

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Thank you so

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Thank you. That does include public comment on the closed session agenda.

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Thank you, Council President.

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All right. Thank you with that.

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We will now recess into closed session and reconvene Council today at 2 p.m.

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or shortly thereafter.

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Thank you, council president, council member Campbell, here, council member Whitburn, council member foster, council member van Wilper, council president, pro-temling, here, council member campion, council member

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Councilmember Moreno, President, Councilmember Elor Vera, and Council President LaCava, also

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obtain the meeting of our Assistant City Attorney, Michelle Garland, Independent Budget

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Analyst, Charles Monica, Advisor in the Mayor's Office, Mr. Wilde, and myself, your

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city clerk, Diana Fuentes, thank you.

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Right, thank you, Madam City Clerk, Forum is now present, so we'll start off first by asking

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if there's any comments from the Mayor's Office from City Council members to the Attorney

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any independent budget analyst or the city clerk?

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And we see the city clerk calves comments?

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I just wanted to give a quick update

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that we are going to be ending our community engagement survey

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at the end of this week.

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There is a QR code during our slides that go up.

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And on my website, www.sandiego.gov, backslash city clerk

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on the front webpage there.

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We encourage everyone to participate

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and please give us feedback

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on how we can better support public engagement

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and city council meetings.

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Thank you, Council President.

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All right.

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Thank you, many of you.

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Some clerk.

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Thank you for going for that extra effort to get that public input.

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So with that, please go over how the public can offer their testimony.

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Thank you, Council President.

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I'd like to highlight the slide that was on the screen to mitigate, but the screen that

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reviews how the public offer can, how the public can offer their public testimony during

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this afternoon's meeting.

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You can go and get the website link at www.sandigo.gov.

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Backslash City Clerk on our agenda.

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It is there at the front.

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If you like to participate via zoom, it's www.sandiago.gov slash CCMTG, it's back up on the screen now,

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as well as the webinar ID information. If you are in person, please complete the speaker slip

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located at the entrance of chambers and bring it to the front of the room in the clear box.

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There's also council ambassadors that are available near the entrance of chambers and

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can assist with questions and speaker slips. If you are participating remotely,

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press star nine or the raise your hand icon and no further in person testimony will be taken once the council begins for a troll testimony

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Thank you, council president. All right. Thank you with that. Please introduce item 200. Item 200 is an informational item

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It is the annual update from the San Diego City port commissioners if you'd like to please if you'd like to speak on this item

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Now is the time to submit your speakers lips to the front of the room into the clear box or if you are participating remotely

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Come on in. If you are participating remotely, please be sure to raise your hand by pressing star 9 or raise your hand icon. Thank you, council president.

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All right. Thank you. Well, welcome to our chambers this time. And these are our port commissioners or the commissioner to represent in the city of San Diego. Excuse me. Please introduce yourselves for the record and let us know how much time you need for your presentation.

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Good afternoon, Council President. 15 minutes, please.

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All right.

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When you were.

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Go ahead.

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Next slide.

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Oh, oh, no, sorry.

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I apologize.

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I know you're very excited.

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Good afternoon.

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Council President.

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Members of the City Council.

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I'm Michael Zucat.

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I'm the Vice Chair of the Board of Court Commissioners.

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Join by Commissioner Sid Verapura.

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And Commissioner Daniel Moore.

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we are your three San Diego appointees.

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We're going to give you a brief update on a number of items

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today, broken down in a three categories, parks and open space,

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economic development, and we're going to tell you

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about some exciting events coming through our Titans

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activation program.

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Next slide, please.

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Very good.

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So beginning with parks and open space,

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we're going to begin with what will be the largest veterans

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park on the west coast, Freedom Park at Burnham Navy Pier. If you look at the rendering there,

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that's Navy Pier on the left side of this photograph. And the park will begin at that eastern

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edge of the pier wrap all the way around the midway over the G Street mole on the other side

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and ten acres in all. So this is a very substantial park that is under construction today.

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the port demolished last year that head house,

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warehouse-looking structure at the base of the pier.

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It's nearing completion of the under water,

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reinforcements and engineering that's going on.

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The Midway Museum are partners in this effort.

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Continue their fundraising for the construction,

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and we're excited that completion is scheduled to be

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in time for Veterans Day 2028.

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Next slide, please.

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Moving on to Caesar Chavez, Park Improvements, this is a project that is in a more preliminary

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design phase, we're working closely with Councilmember Moreno, the Barrier Logan Community

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Planning Group, which kind of Park Steering Committee.

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We've had a few public workshops and pop-up events trying to come up with a collaborative

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design and a plan to make these improvements. At the moment we're talking about a splash pad,

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we're talking about more lawn space for picnics and gatherings, a perched beach sort of above,

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above the water, ass-tech inspired heart scape, shade structures and other amenities. Although

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this is in preliminary design, the good news is this project is basically already funded through

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something at the port called the Balance Capital Program, which is something where each member

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city's commissioners sort of guide some public money, and this is the choice of the three

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commissioners before you in terms of San Diego. And so this project is largely funded. Construction

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we're hoping is fall of 2027, completed in the spring of 2028. Next slide please.

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next slide please. Coming up for East Harbor Island. This is the part of East Harbor Island

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that you probably haven't been to before unless you made a wrong turn. This is the part

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that is right by Harbor Island Drive. It's currently parking lots for overflow rental cars

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and construction areas for the airport right now. It's going to be the future site for top

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off, which my colleague's going to talk about in a second, but we're talking about that,

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what do you call that teal, aquamarine around it, that's a ten acre park, all on the

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waterfront.

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There's also a proposal for about a six and a half acre entertainment and restaurant district

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in this area, the part of Harbor Island that most people are familiar with is that

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bottom of the photograph part with the restaurants and the hotels.

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This is right now literally a walled off sort of industrial section of East Harbour Island and this entire

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development and park space will be transformative.

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Next slide, please.

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Finally, at least for my part of this presentation, I want to update you on the Maritime Clean Air Strategy,

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something the port adopted in 2021.

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One, the purpose of it was, and the goal of it was health equity for all, basically, what

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can we as a port do more to improve on the lives of the port communities who surround

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the operations of the port, and one of the goals of the strategy was to put our goals,

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make them aggressive and put them in writing and hope to generate federal and state money

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to help fund those activities.

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And I think it's fair to say that even our most optimistic

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hopes were far exceeded to date.

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We've raised sort of a quarter billion dollars

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in the last five years to fund electric cranes,

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completely electrify, almost completely

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would like to try the 10th Avenue and Reinterminal.

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By the way, all that electric equipment is the electricity.

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From it comes from a solar powered microgrid at the 10th

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of Romanian turmoil, which also saves money and reduces further emissions.

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So, very grateful to the work of our staff at the port, especially Job Nelson, who you

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already know and his team who have really gone above and beyond in securing this money.

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And the result of that of those investments were demonstrated in our emissions inventory, which

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was just published, and it showed that in a five-year period, we had a 30% decrease in nitrogen

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in oxides, and a 46% decrease in diesel

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particulate matter emissions from port-related activities

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in just a five-year period.

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And so we're pretty excited about that.

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Just at our last board meeting, we approved our clean cargo

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port grant with EPA, which did come through.

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We have a couple of partners on that.

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Dole, our main tenant at the 10,000th Avenue,

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Rene Terminal, and Patia Automotive, who runs the terminal

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down in national city. Also in that grant we've got funded a workforce development staff member

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who's going to help promote clean tech careers. And so we're excited about these results

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and look forward to continuing the progress. Moving on, Commissioner Veracaro.

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Good afternoon. I said Veracaro for the record. Happy to be here. I also want to acknowledge

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as commissioners, you can't mention Job Nelson, Job Nelson, Scott Chattwick and Ron Powell.

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I think they need no introduction from all of you.

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I've joined us today as well.

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I'm going to share three projects all under environmental review at this point in time,

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but as you'll see, we see the end of the tunnel or the light at the end of the tunnel on all three of them.

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Starting with C. Port San Diego, it is our most ambitious project in its planning stages.

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I know you are all familiar with it.

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This mixed-use project proposes pre-public uses and commercial ventures, including plazas,

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parks, promenades, pears, marinas, hotels, retail and restaurants, commercial fishing uses,

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multiple visitor attractions, and urban beach, and educational uses as well.

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It would unfold on about 39 acres of land and 63 acres of water that includes parts

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of C. Poor Village, Tunal Harbor, and Barcadero,

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Marina Park, North, and Rucal Park.

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So as I said, it's under environmental review,

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and we actually anticipate the next completion

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of that review later this year.

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Next slide, please.

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The second project I want to share

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is the is 1220 Pacific Highway.

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to acquire its leasehold, the port staff

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is preparing to present a proposed use for the site

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at our March 10th board of board commissioners meeting and we are considering a proposal that promises

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to bring in a new public attraction to the area next to the intercontinental hotel along the

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Barcadero. So I think all three of us are excited to see a development plan that transforms

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what has been an unusable 3.4 acre cluster of Navy office buildings since 1949 into an

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activated space for our community.

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Next slide, please.

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Vice Chair Zucat also talked a little bit about East Harbor

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Drive, our East Harbor Island of Excuse me,

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and the park.

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This is part of our activation program with top golf.

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So this proposed project is sits on 10 acres.

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Again, also occupied currently by rental car companies.

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It's also under environmental review,

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and we're expecting an EIR to be circulated for public study and comment this fall.

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Once it is the EIR is certified by the Board, a port commissioners, it will be submitted

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to the California Coastal Commission for review and it is that say crucial step that would

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allow construction to begin.

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Top golf promises to serve as a magnet that we think will attract the public and provides

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a job of energy to ease harbor drive.

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Between the planning pages of East Harbor Island Park and Prananod and Topgolf, we, the three of us,

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are in particular looking to see how we could reimagine this space that is Vice-Chair

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as a kept mentioned, has been just not usable for the public and our community. Next slide.

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And finally, for me, in my portion of this presentation, our cruise industry. So the port is experiencing a rebound.

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and it's cruise ship business. We had a 177 cruise ship calls with 389,000 passengers this season.

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So, as just to give it comparison in the 2024-2025 cruise season, we recorded 75 cruise ships

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and welcomed just about 260,000 passengers at that time. So, during that season, cruise lines

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have repositioned ships to Asia and Australia and tested other markets.

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But I want to say congratulations to our maritime team who have really worked hard to kind

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of engage the cruise line industry.

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And this year's performance is similar to our 2020-23-2024 season, and that's when global

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traveler magazine recognized us, San Diego, as the best cruise port in the world.

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That season saw 101 cruise calls with 340,000 passengers.

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So to give you a sense of why this matters for all of us, each voyage that begins and ends in San Diego,

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so a home port call, injects $2 million into the local economy through ship provisioning and visitor spending.

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A stop here by a cruise ship that originates at a different port brings in about $600,000 into our local economy.

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This year's fiscal year, the port's cruise businesses will generate an estimated $157 million in economic impact to the San Diego County.

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and I see we're down at three and a half minutes,

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so I'm gonna turn it over to my colleague,

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Commissioner Moore.

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Hello everyone, Daniel Moore,

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very proud to be on this board.

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And one of the best parts is being able to serve

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with the other commissioners.

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Commissioner Zoukant is modest when he talks about the MCAS.

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But I'm sure you all observed how he stood up

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a little taller, his chest stuck out a little bit more.

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And that's because of the work that was done

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with the MCAS was during his tenure as chair.

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So as he is vice chair this year, we are very excited about his leadership next year so that he can continue introducing more innovative ideas like MCAS.

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I'm going to walk us quickly through some other exciting things that are happening at the port of San Diego.

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The first one being Harbor Drive 2.0.

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And this project is about modernizing movement.

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We reduce truck ideline and prove safety and make access more predictable.

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Well, also moving goods better and making breathing easy, easier.

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Harbor Drive is a front-line corridor, it has to work for freight visitors and nearby

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neighbors, especially communities impacted by diesel emissions.

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And it is not just a traffic project, it's a health immobility project.

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Aligned with our emissions reduction goals and regional partners like CalTrans and Sandag who

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been instrumental in making this project come to life.

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wanted to note that is already this year,

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the poor participated in a joint federal race grant

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application with Cal Trans with the goal of furthering

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this corridor concept.

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And also environmental analysis is expected

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to be released for public review this fall.

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One of the exciting stories that we

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are able to tell at the Port of San Diego

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is about the blue economy incubator.

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You look at places like Silicon Valley that have come known for their tech innovation, the San Diego Bay has really become known all over the world for the innovation that we are doing and our San Diego Bay in terms of incubating technologies and concepts that will improve the blue tech economy.

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And so the Board of Commissioners last month approved the addition of our 13th early stage water dependent company to the roster of the poorest blue economy incubator portfolio.

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The new entrance is Nayoka Design Corporation, also known as Luxe Blue.

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And one of the things that makes them so excited is that exciting is that they have patented underwater biologist.

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Common SNC, lighting solution, that will replace plastic glow sticks, which are harmful to the environment.

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The Board agreed to fund the Luxe Biosarda for up to $350,000 for 18 months, where they will

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be able to use the Bay to test their enzyme, powered underwater lighting technology, at several

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locations, and in exchange, they will pay us up to $2.1 million over time from eventual sales of their products.

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One of the proof points when we look at our entire portfolio is that we have had innovative technologies

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that have removed marine debris at a scale of over 110,000 pounds.

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We have also had living short line where 60 plus species were documented on bio-enhancing armor

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units within months.

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We're able to see real-time environmental monitoring that replaces weeks-long lab delays with actionable data.

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And so that same commitment to a healthier, more accessible Bay shows up in how we invest in our parks.

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Starting with SESSA SHABIS Park.

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Next slide, please.

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Commissioners, we can't talk about some of the work that is doing to redesign the park in collaboration with Council Member Marino's office.

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And I want to just acknowledge that that work is not about, you know, consulting with the community afterwards,

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but from the very beginning being integrated in the community and really getting feedback about what they want.

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And so the Port will host a free day at the Park Cultural Celebration at Cesar Chavez Park on Saturday, April 11th, from 11 to 3pm.

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This family-friendly event is part of the Port's expanded access program that really is designed to bring people out,

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residents out to our parks to be able to enjoy the waterfront and we are able to sponsor a day

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of fun and entertainment and highlights include multicultural entertainment featuring local

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artists, hands-on children's activities, interactive community booths and vouchers for free food

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and beverages. We are entering our third year of water activation program and we'll have similar

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on the Big Bay Boom, every July we get very excited about this event that brings hundreds

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of thousands of visitors to San Diego.

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The port began to be the title sponsor of the Big Bay Boom, this fourth July with the

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fireworks event that draws crowds of 300,000 attendees.

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The pyro-techno show provides a boost to hotels, restaurants, and small businesses, and

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this show will be special as the nation celebrates the 250th anniversary of the signing

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of the Declaration of Independence.

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The Port is partnering with Fleet Week San Diego as events new nonprofit partner and fiscal

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sponsor, aligning with celebration with an organization that directly supports active duty

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servicemen members and veterans.

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The cost are the benefit to the Bay is a million dollars in terms of the economic impact.

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And we also are excited to provide sponsorship to support cruise ships that are positioned in

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the bay during the event.

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All right.

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Thank you all.

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Thank you.

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And that concludes our report.

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We're happy to take any questions.

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I did just want to end on something that Commissioner Moore references, which is very grateful

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for the opportunity to serve.

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We appreciate the confidence you show on us to do that on behalf of the people of San Diego.

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And we also think it's been for everybody who really enjoyed working with each other as well.

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And so I wanted to thank you for the opportunity.

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Thank you, Council President.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for the presentation.

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Thank you for taking the time to come here and make the annual report.

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And your service to the port and to the city as our representatives.

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So with that, please go to public comment.

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Thank you, Council President.

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I've started the five minute timer hearing council chambers because I do not have any speaker

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subs for this item here in council chambers going to those on the line.

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John Stump, if you can please unmute after that is Andrea Ewing and then 8700.

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John Stump?

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Hi.

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Good afternoon.

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You know, the port report was very good.

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The problem is the port, on one hand, claims that it's trying to reduce carbon pollution.

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global warming and the environment.

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All of the things that support does create global warming

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and carbon production. So what's needed in the future is that for each activity we need to have an accounting of how much carbon,

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how much global warming pollution was created, and what they did to decrease it.

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It folks, there's no free lunch. We can, on one hand, salute climate change and global warming

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reduction. And on the other hand, increase our activities that burn fossil fuels and

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I'll move the atmosphere.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next is Andrea Ewing.

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If you can please unmute.

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Hi, guys.

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That was a really good presentation.

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I think the the court in the area is just one of my favorite parts of San Diego.

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I think it's a really it's a place where upon arrival everyone is going to remember.

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So I like the plans.

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And I just saw a lot, especially the last one where, you know, show what's going to go over to

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Seekport Village.

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And then just to somewhat piggyback on the last comment, I know we have let a long history

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of fireworks, and that's part of our skyline, that's part of San Diego for SeaWorld, and

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all that.

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But I almost wonder if it's time to start looking at drone shows versus fireworks for

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the emissions and that sort of thing and the waste that is produced from those shows not quite

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sure what the regulations would be FAA-wise or aviation-wise but there are certainly some really

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solid vendors out there that do amazing drone shows that could be a great addition and attraction

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to San Diego. I think that whole area and everything we just saw could also be a great attraction for

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I don't know if who's doing our tourism, what used to be convex, convention visitors bureau, if we

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have something like that. But if we could start campaigning in feeder markets,

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what I just saw from that, you know, visual is enough for me to want to visit if it was like long

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beach or an hour or something like that. And that's it. Thank you so much. Thank you, next is 8700.

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If you can please unmute,

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after that is hector, and then Kathleen Lippitt.

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Thank you, Joyce and you had a CD3.

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So good to see all of you representing the port, a great presentation from all three.

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And I have to say this on record every time I love our working waterfront.

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So you have three big categories and you cover them all very well.

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I want to say a couple of things first of all, the port honors our military in big ways.

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The military are one or a big part of our San Diego family.

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Thank you so much, health equity for all, maintaining the clear air strategy, that's a quick thing of that.

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Thank you. Thank you for that. Love the electric cranes. I just, all when they were, when they arrived, it just beyond belief there, they're so amazing. Thank you for that. 12, 20 Pacific Highway looks positive and fresh. Wow, 1940s buildings. Wow, that's well over. I guess about 85 years old. Those are strong buildings. Best cruise port in the world.

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That's an amazing statement and the amount of economic impact because of being the best

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port cruise port in the world is so, so appreciated.

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We need more revenue, everybody.

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Love the, love the, at the park.

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It's terrific.

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I would just ask you to do this.

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Most of the people I talked to in the downtown area do not know much about the working water

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Thank you for those comments.

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The five minutes timer has included here in Council Chambers.

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Hector and Kathleen Lipett.

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Your final two speakers.

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Hector, if you can please unmute.

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I have to hear.

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The port has really had their stuff together from the get go.

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Guys doing a great job.

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I just wish the city could model their game out with you guys.

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Everything's looking great.

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The veterans thing down a midway.

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I think you guys got to get on it, man, because Mailing, Mailing, no, there's burning daylight.

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You guys getting old.

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You guys got to step it up like six months, so it can be done before he checks out.

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But he's a great guy, so also he's building up.

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He wants to build a tunnel on the strand.

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I don't know if he's told you about it, but Mailing's thinking about it.

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I was trying to do that with an 80.

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So to open up another part of San Diego Bay.

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And I would be like on the southern end there, put up.

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Jetties in there and have a tunnel go of the road to underneath it.

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That'd be another project to work on with the port.

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And whatever you guys are doing, full speed ahead and get it done.

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And thanks a lot for your time.

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Thanks.

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Thank you, and our final speaker is Kathleen Lippett.

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If you can please unmute.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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And thank you for the presentation.

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and it was a great presentation, really do appreciate all your suggestions and plans to increase

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and improve park amenities and park acreage. The clean air strategy is something the

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San Diego's will welcome and I am hoping that there is pushback from the port as to the taking

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or transitioning of mission-based park plan to commercial amenities and taking away any of that

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from the public is really a disturbing prospect, but thank you for all of you doing right now.

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Appreciate it. Thank you for letting me speak. Thank you. That concludes public comment.

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I don't do hundreds. All right. Thank you, City Clerk. The reminder, this is an information item

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and no motions required.

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We'll turn over to council members,

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your questions, council members.

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We'll start with council member, ELO Rivera.

462
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Thank you, council president.

463
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Thank you to our board commissioner,

464
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who's really appreciate all three of you.

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The time that you all spend, the way that you show up,

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and it really do appreciate,

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I think the San Diego Superwell served by all three of you,

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and I appreciate you doing the work that you do.

469
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The updates were great, lots of good stuff.

470
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I really, very much appreciate how much of what is coming online will benefit, or at least

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can benefit San Diego's and provide access points for San Diego's, especially young people.

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Even Shelter Island, a park, a little park that's there, I took my son there a couple

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weeks ago, and it's a great little playground.

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So, appreciate the updates there and the progress that's being made.

475
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I think that's pretty incredible in terms of the updates on cruise ships.

476
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I'm curious, is there something in particular that you think change or is it like they experimented elsewhere and kind of forgot what a good thing they have here?

477
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What do you think the difference was on that front?

478
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,320
Thank you, Councilmember.

479
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I think it's actually a combination of multiple things.

480
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I think we've heard from the cruise industry

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that their guests, their cruisers,

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they actually really like the San Diego home port.

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I think that actually drove,

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drives a lot of their thinking.

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I think that they also did as to your kind of like thinking about it,

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that they did do a lot of experimentation in Asia

487
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And I think just the, you know, typically three to five day kind of trip to through Baha, actually is one that works really well, even just from a, did not just from a visitor experience or customer experience, but also just from like an economics perspective as well.

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And then I, I can't thank enough our maritime team who have been really diligent about going out and actually engaging each of our cruise line industries and keeping ones like holiday America who's been a homeport.

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for some time now, very much engaged and excited about what we have to offer, and I know that

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there are a couple new cruise liners that are looking at doing home ports with us, so I

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actually think the next time we come here, we might have some bigger updates for you, but

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I think it's a combination of those three.

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I just want to add to that, you know, I think when Commissioner Barack Obama talks about they

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like the San Diego home port, they like being able to be dropped in the middle of our city and

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at it offers, they like being adjacent to the airport, where you look at other places in

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Southern California, where it's so remote, the port is isolated from a lot of things that

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are accessible. But here in San Diego, you get dropped here and you get access to our entire

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city, to our transportation system, to the train system. And so, it opens up so much for people

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when they come to San Diego, they're not just coming to, you know, just go to the port, they're

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coming to see San Diego and see all that it has to offer.

501
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Wait, on that point, I have to share a quick anecdote, which was-

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I was at Ralph's bagging my groceries in line and I was wearing my poor San Diego jacket and the cashier

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SPG, you work at the port and I said, actually, I'm one of our commissioners here in San Diego.

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And she said, when are you bringing back a certain cruise line because I hate going my husband

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and I hate going to Long Beach? So I think that kind of like says it all.

506
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:24,600
Okay. Thank you. One question I think I've asked every time you all come upon 20, what's going on with

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01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,920
on 20 with the progress there.

508
01:00:28,730 --> 01:00:29,810
Thanks, Councilman.

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01:00:30,970 --> 01:00:32,830
I feel like both of them just looked at me.

510
01:00:33,510 --> 01:00:34,310
I'll say it out.

511
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:35,010
I'll have to say it out.

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01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:40,590
So a long process, obviously.

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01:00:42,030 --> 01:00:45,750
And at the moment, so there are six agencies participating

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01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:48,770
in the interagency review team to develop

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01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:51,090
the banking and abling instrument along with the poor.

516
01:00:52,090 --> 01:00:54,450
So maybe I should start by for those who are unfamiliar

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01:00:54,450 --> 01:00:56,770
with what a banking enabling instrument is.

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01:00:57,130 --> 01:01:01,970
That's actually the legal binding agreement between the bank, the bank, the bank, the

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It may be even a little bit more about what Pond 20 is, if you don't mind, if they count

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the president's okay with a little bit of an overview for those who don't know.

521
01:01:10,790 --> 01:01:11,130
Sure.

522
01:01:11,610 --> 01:01:12,730
Thank you, Council Member.

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01:01:13,890 --> 01:01:19,610
It's basically like Wetlands Mitigation Project, so ensuring that there's specific

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01:01:19,610 --> 01:01:30,270
space that we at the Port of San Diego will preserve for our, it's, I want to say it's 80 acres.

525
01:01:30,610 --> 01:01:32,170
I'm going to get you a little bit.

526
01:01:32,370 --> 01:01:33,490
Thank you very much.

527
01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:35,610
Council member, I just need to ask you that.

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That is preserve wetlands mitigation.

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01:01:38,770 --> 01:01:44,630
So what happens is oftentimes a developer will get, as they're trying to do a project,

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01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:47,710
will be required to have a specific set aside

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01:01:47,710 --> 01:01:51,510
for Alpine Lens mitigation for the development that they're doing.

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01:01:51,730 --> 01:01:55,670
And they'll typically pay out a certain kind of amount of money

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01:01:55,670 --> 01:02:00,470
for an in-loop fee that says, OK, here's this cash for preservation.

534
01:02:00,770 --> 01:02:03,230
And it's oftentimes just siloed and in different spaces.

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01:02:03,830 --> 01:02:07,670
This particular project would ensure that that space here

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01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:12,490
on the Tylens would be preserved and could be used as this bank

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01:02:12,490 --> 01:02:16,370
for other developers who are looking to determine projects.

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01:02:17,230 --> 01:02:22,230
The money that's received can be then turned into an equity economic development opportunities.

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01:02:23,110 --> 01:02:30,410
So it's actually the city of San Diego and Imperial Beach would be the recipients of those potential resources.

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I hope that's helpful, Councilmember.

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01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:41,910
And then the actual in-nade banking and enabling instrument, as I mentioned, is the legally blinding agreement between the regulatory agencies.

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and the bank's sponsor, which is the Port of San Diego.

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01:02:46,450 --> 01:02:49,770
And through that agreement, that's where we actually are looking at

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01:02:49,770 --> 01:02:52,030
defining how credits are created.

545
01:02:52,850 --> 01:02:55,710
Again, I just did a very big overview, but the agreement itself

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01:02:55,710 --> 01:02:57,810
is we'll determine how those credits are created,

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01:02:58,370 --> 01:03:00,270
how they are released and then how they are sold.

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01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:06,890
So the interagency review team currently consists of the Army Corps of Engineers,

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01:03:07,470 --> 01:03:10,470
the EPA, the U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife Services,

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01:03:10,470 --> 01:03:15,590
know the California Regional Water Quality Control Board and the California Coastal Commission.

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01:03:17,030 --> 01:03:21,710
So where we stand right now is that there has been an iterative process of back and forth

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01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:28,950
with questions being addressed by the Interagency Review team and currently we have a thousand

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01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:36,270
comments from that team and we are actually going through those because they are all technical

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01:03:36,270 --> 01:03:42,910
in nature and the ports plan is to resumit with answers to those questions later this spring.

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01:03:44,190 --> 01:03:51,970
Got it. And I don't know if there's any way of even projecting out or is there a hope for when this

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01:03:51,970 --> 01:03:59,410
turns into the sort of wetlands rehab project that is envisioned or I don't know if I can say envisioned,

557
01:04:00,410 --> 01:04:06,250
but like some folks hope for. Sometimes like again like once we submit these these questions or the

558
01:04:06,250 --> 01:04:09,790
feeling there's going to be multiple more questions I gave from that.

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01:04:10,330 --> 01:04:14,950
I will say this council member, I asked port staff for a monthly meeting to just

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01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:19,650
keep me updated on where things stand, so the hope is that we can move this along as

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01:04:19,650 --> 01:04:20,430
fast as possible.

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01:04:20,790 --> 01:04:24,630
Because it's a real opportunity if we can turn this into an economic development, banking

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01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:29,010
instrument for an equity, for San Diego, and an imperial beach.

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01:04:29,010 --> 01:04:40,950
And if I think it was natural wetlands, or one before it was a salt, like a commercial salt pond, right?

565
01:04:41,330 --> 01:04:41,750
That's right.

566
01:04:41,930 --> 01:04:43,410
So there has to be restoration as well.

567
01:04:44,290 --> 01:04:48,570
I appreciate that update, and thank you again, everyone, for all the work that you're doing.

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01:04:49,110 --> 01:04:52,310
Really, really appreciate everything that you're doing and have done.

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01:04:52,590 --> 01:04:52,850
Thank you.

570
01:04:52,850 --> 01:04:52,950
All right.

571
01:04:53,090 --> 01:04:53,470
Thank you.

572
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:57,050
Thank you.

573
01:04:57,050 --> 01:05:03,750
and thank you for the presentation. I want to thank our poor commissioners just for everything they do.

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01:05:04,770 --> 01:05:10,230
San Diego Port, there is no other port like it. I would venture to say in the whole world,

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01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:18,110
extremely dynamic hotels, shipbuilding, navy, potential mitigation banks and

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01:05:19,150 --> 01:05:25,350
city residents, right? And there is nothing like this. So it's really clear to me that a great deal of

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01:05:25,350 --> 01:05:28,630
planning, coordinating and vision has gone into the efforts that you

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01:05:28,630 --> 01:05:33,170
guys presented, and I do appreciate the transparency in sharing the

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01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:39,170
progress to us and also to the public. I am very excited about all the

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01:05:39,170 --> 01:05:45,470
projects. In particular, I want to point out, Harvard Drive 2.0, the

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01:05:45,470 --> 01:05:49,610
pont-20 that was just mentioned that's in district 8, and especially the

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01:05:49,610 --> 01:05:54,250
significant investment the port is making into SESF Chavez Park. As

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01:05:54,250 --> 01:06:01,850
What was mentioned, Ponte 20 is a salt and crusted area, which the port will hopefully transfer

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01:06:01,850 --> 01:06:03,690
into a mitigation bank.

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01:06:04,110 --> 01:06:12,190
First of its kind in the San Diego Bay, I once upon a time was a staffer where there were

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01:06:12,190 --> 01:06:19,310
proposals for this Ponte 20, and I think one of the most interesting one was a medieval

587
01:06:19,310 --> 01:06:33,770
times arena. Obviously, we're worlds away from arena, but I will say that I will be specifically

588
01:06:33,770 --> 01:06:40,750
asking what delays have we experienced in Pond 20 at the state level. And you mentioned

589
01:06:40,750 --> 01:06:48,930
that what was the agency that you guys were, the port is waiting is putting together. It's

590
01:06:48,930 --> 01:06:54,670
response to this agency, right, on a array of questions that they have asked.

591
01:06:54,890 --> 01:07:00,510
If I may just kind of clarify that, Council member, that's, so we're the bank sponsor,

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01:07:01,070 --> 01:07:05,490
and so we have to respond to the interagency review team. So that's called the

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01:07:05,490 --> 01:07:10,370
higher agency review team. And is that a state agent here is that a federal?

594
01:07:10,570 --> 01:07:14,750
It's both, so it's the six members of that,

595
01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:22,210
RIT is the Army Corps of Engineers, EPA, U.S. Department of Fish and Wildlife Services, NOAA.

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01:07:22,790 --> 01:07:26,910
And then the California Regional Water Quality Control Board and the California Coastal

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01:07:26,910 --> 01:07:26,970
Control Board.

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01:07:26,970 --> 01:07:27,830
California Coastal Command.

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01:07:27,870 --> 01:07:33,370
Thank you for reiterating that I missed it when you first mentioned it.

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01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:39,950
And so you guys will respond, or the port of San Diego will respond, how long will that

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01:07:39,950 --> 01:07:40,830
response take?

602
01:07:42,070 --> 01:08:06,310
Again, I think that we've been doing, it's been an inter入 process so to be clear, like just so you know, this isn't the first response we've been having back and forth, but the most recent set of questions or comments we received were over a thousand and so we're looking at and now everybody at the port of San Diego are on the record because I'm saying it that they told us, but it's going to be submitted later this spring.

603
01:08:06,310 --> 01:08:14,270
later this spring. Correct. So before June 20th, 2026. And I have a feeling you'll be calling me

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01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:24,590
fun through 2021. And I want to, I mentioned this earlier, I have until December, and since I have been working at the city of San Diego,

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01:08:25,430 --> 01:08:33,110
I feel like this is a missed opportunity because of the land. The land that we have in Pant 20 is, I mean,

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01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:40,990
side-in-used, used it for mitigation right next to pont-20, and they mitigated for the desalination

607
01:08:40,990 --> 01:08:46,190
plant in the northern part of the district, and northern part of the county. I think it's a

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01:08:46,190 --> 01:08:53,630
great opportunity and I know developers and folks are looking for land like pont-20 to bring

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01:08:53,630 --> 01:08:59,990
back to life. And obviously in the South Bay, for any folks who ever drive over

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01:09:01,390 --> 01:09:07,950
towards going on old state route 75, Palm Avenue and you're going over towards the ocean.

611
01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:11,810
It's the big piece of land that's over on your right hand side.

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01:09:12,450 --> 01:09:20,250
Unfortunately, that's, or fortunately, that is what the South Bay has, what we got from the port.

613
01:09:20,650 --> 01:09:27,130
And so we really want to make sure that it's put to work and that we use it to the best of its ability.

614
01:09:27,130 --> 01:09:37,930
So we are going to respond before summer time and we don't know, this is the first time I ever hear of this agency.

615
01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:46,490
So maybe we need to dissect this in another committee to get to know a little bit more about what are the next steps after that.

616
01:09:46,490 --> 01:09:47,850
How long does it take?

617
01:09:48,690 --> 01:09:51,890
I don't think we're the first mitigation bank in the nation.

618
01:09:51,890 --> 01:09:58,510
we might be, I don't know, so just to get more information on what the steps to hold us as legislators

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01:09:58,510 --> 01:10:04,790
accountable and also you as our fearless port commissioners accountable as well.

620
01:10:06,450 --> 01:10:11,850
That sounds great, Councilmember. I will say to just very quickly this council gave me the honor

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01:10:11,850 --> 01:10:18,590
of serving on our port commission in February 2024 and I think it was in March of that year when I

622
01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:22,990
asked for my first meeting about Pond 20 because it seems such like an opportunity for us.

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01:10:23,630 --> 01:10:30,810
I will also share that Commissioner Dan Malcolm who represents Imperial Beach and I have

624
01:10:30,810 --> 01:10:38,670
chatted about how he actually was on the Imperial Beach Council in the late 90s when the agreement

625
01:10:38,670 --> 01:10:45,150
was made to create Pond 20 with a negotiated agreement with the Environmental Justice community as

626
01:10:45,150 --> 01:10:54,030
Also, we also have a strong partner in our fellow city and national, in Imperial Beach for moving this forward.

627
01:10:54,370 --> 01:10:58,170
And it's in the Imperial Beach's former redevelopment district.

628
01:10:59,050 --> 01:11:02,170
Which is now confusing because of the dissolution of redevelopment.

629
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:04,710
But that's, we're not going to get into the weeds of things.

630
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:09,030
I just want to make sure that Pantone comes to fruition in my lifetime.

631
01:11:09,170 --> 01:11:10,810
I'm 43 years old.

632
01:11:11,070 --> 01:11:12,150
About to turn 44.

633
01:11:12,150 --> 01:11:18,430
So I will be pushing on that front, but thank you for that, and obviously more to come.

634
01:11:19,450 --> 01:11:22,510
Also equally excited about Harbor Drive 2.0.

635
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:27,510
It's a significant project that will contribute to the vast industry sector and Mario Logan,

636
01:11:28,030 --> 01:11:33,310
and also the port, and not only will it bring it a better and nicer infrastructure,

637
01:11:33,890 --> 01:11:39,010
it will also mitigate environmental impacts that affect neighboring communities of Mario Logan.

638
01:11:39,010 --> 01:11:46,170
for decades the community of Barrio Logan has suffered from systemic disinvestment, limited

639
01:11:46,170 --> 01:11:54,790
green space and environmental burden. I should say plural. I know Joe has taken the lead on

640
01:11:54,790 --> 01:12:01,090
this and I do think him for it. Every time I ask for an update, he's quick to respond on what

641
01:12:01,670 --> 01:12:08,830
you guys, if I may take three more minutes of my time. This is obviously a priority for the

642
01:12:08,830 --> 01:12:12,370
and it took a while, but I think you guys

643
01:12:12,370 --> 01:12:14,470
for making this one of the lead priorities.

644
01:12:14,730 --> 01:12:19,650
It is a significant project within the port.

645
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:21,550
So thank you for that.

646
01:12:22,850 --> 01:12:25,010
It says have Chavez Park, three-acre park

647
01:12:25,010 --> 01:12:27,070
on the Waterfront and Barrio Logan,

648
01:12:28,090 --> 01:12:30,970
seeing meaningful resources directed into Caesar.

649
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:34,190
Chavez Park is a major step in the right direction.

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01:12:35,490 --> 01:12:37,450
And acknowledgment that our communities deserve

651
01:12:37,450 --> 01:12:40,650
the same level of care and opportunity as any other.

652
01:12:41,310 --> 01:12:47,730
I also, I want to commend Port staff who work diligently to advance this particular project.

653
01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:54,430
The community meetings regarding SESF Chavez Park improvements have been just astounding.

654
01:12:54,750 --> 01:13:02,170
We give the community a platform to voice their opinion, should they have one regarding this

655
01:13:02,170 --> 01:13:16,510
Park that they have and once again a real opportunity to share input, raise concerns, and the last part is really have them help us shape the future of that park.

656
01:13:16,930 --> 01:13:27,750
I think this is what collaboration should look like, agencies working hand in hand with residents, listening first and making investments that reflect the community's priorities.

657
01:13:27,750 --> 01:13:38,970
And I know none of that could have been done without your guys' leadership, so it's an honor to have you guys sit as our port commissioners.

658
01:13:39,450 --> 01:13:47,430
You guys are very open, candid, and I think you have the community's best interests at heart.

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01:13:48,170 --> 01:13:50,810
And I appreciate that. I appreciate that partnership.

660
01:13:51,810 --> 01:13:56,970
And so, is there a motion on the floor to its informational item? Okay, wonderful.

661
01:13:56,970 --> 01:14:02,750
Will happy to have you guys when do you guys come back before December I hope

662
01:14:03,370 --> 01:14:04,790
When do you want us back?

663
01:14:05,070 --> 01:14:08,270
How often do they present come back next week?

664
01:14:08,910 --> 01:14:12,870
You're but we can happen come back. Maybe like a day after

665
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:13,990
Spring is over

666
01:14:14,890 --> 01:14:19,630
No, thank you guys. I appreciate it. Thank you much council if I if I may in terms of coming back

667
01:14:19,630 --> 01:14:23,370
I think you're idea about a committee hearing with respect to

668
01:14:23,370 --> 01:14:29,450
upon 20 is a great idea and an appropriate thing because it is a big deal. It has taken forever.

669
01:14:30,290 --> 01:14:35,970
Nobody's making any excuses and you heard that list of organizations. It's a, you know,

670
01:14:36,510 --> 01:14:41,770
no shade on the Army Corps of Engineers or EPA or Coastal, but it is quite a process and

671
01:14:42,370 --> 01:14:47,890
Commissioner Moore and I are all in for sure and it's fair to say that Commissioner Veracra

672
01:14:47,890 --> 01:14:55,970
has been particularly all in and leading the way on this and so I think I think you will

673
01:14:55,970 --> 01:14:59,070
be the spokesperson for the committee meeting.

674
01:15:01,070 --> 01:15:04,750
So, I see that that's going away present for council member Morena, right?

675
01:15:05,190 --> 01:15:10,790
Apped up by December. Thank you, council member Morena, and we'll go next to council member Von Wilberg.

676
01:15:11,890 --> 01:15:16,390
Thank you very much to our three commissioners for your excellent work for the presentation today.

677
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:23,350
You represent the city of San Diego very well and we're glad that you're doing all that hard work on top of your normal lives and jobs.

678
01:15:23,870 --> 01:15:30,250
And so please know that I know how hard you work, especially since I sit on the airport authority a year all the time, about how hard everyone is working.

679
01:15:30,250 --> 01:15:39,090
I appreciate you very much for your work, and a huge kudos to the successes on emissions and sustainability.

680
01:15:39,730 --> 01:15:43,910
I mean, you really are industry leaders in this, and it's been incredible to watch.

681
01:15:44,370 --> 01:15:50,070
And as, you know, a C&D agent, we are all beneficiaries of your work in terms of cleaner environment and cleaner to breathe.

682
01:15:51,510 --> 01:15:56,030
And so just in cheaper energy bills too, you know, so it's just really want to thank you for all of that.

683
01:15:56,030 --> 01:15:58,750
looking forward to all the improvements coming up.

684
01:15:58,930 --> 01:16:02,390
I do have one question about the convention center.

685
01:16:03,770 --> 01:16:06,390
And I see Job and Scott are here too.

686
01:16:06,730 --> 01:16:08,150
So I'm excited to hear their thoughts on this.

687
01:16:08,250 --> 01:16:11,110
But I know that previously the port of C&D

688
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:13,410
ago in the city of C&D who have worked in great partnership

689
01:16:13,410 --> 01:16:16,310
to make sure the convention center is maintained

690
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:19,010
in the expansions that we have been working on.

691
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:22,370
In 1996, the port and the city appointed

692
01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:24,750
to rate powers agreement to issue $200 million

693
01:16:24,750 --> 01:16:28,310
and in least revenue bonds to make sure the Convention Center was taking care of.

694
01:16:28,690 --> 01:16:33,350
And I think we're at a point now where we need to do a similar long-term bond again for the Convention

695
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:38,490
Center because they are coming to the city every budget year saying there's $400 million in

696
01:16:38,490 --> 01:16:42,050
back maintenance that they have to do just for the basics of the Convention Center.

697
01:16:42,850 --> 01:16:46,430
And it's one of our big economic revenue generators that we share with the port.

698
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:51,790
And we've have been shown videos of folks who have booked out rooms of the Convention Center for the

699
01:16:51,790 --> 01:16:56,470
convention halls in waters leaking through the roof onto their conventions and nobody

700
01:16:56,470 --> 01:17:00,830
needs that when we're competing with San Francisco, we're competing with San Jose, other

701
01:17:00,830 --> 01:17:01,270
areas.

702
01:17:01,910 --> 01:17:07,830
And so now that we have finally secured the funding he measures see to come to the city of

703
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:14,170
San Diego, the increased TOT tax, we do have an opportunity to leverage that funding and do

704
01:17:14,170 --> 01:17:19,630
another series of at least back revenue bonds or infrastructure bonds, but it would be really

705
01:17:19,630 --> 01:17:25,350
wonderful to have the port's partnership in that as the city had before, because if you might have seen the cities,

706
01:17:25,870 --> 01:17:34,150
budget deficit isn't the easiest hill for us to tackle, and so we may need an additional predator like the port to partner with us on that, but it's to our joint benefit.

707
01:17:35,130 --> 01:17:41,210
And so I'm just, you know, I'm going to plug, you know, we're prepared to, I'm going to say, hey, you guys need to get on this as well.

708
01:17:41,470 --> 01:17:46,950
But I'm just hoping the port would be open to those conversations because the Convention Center is a jam that we both share.

709
01:17:48,650 --> 01:18:00,950
So let me just agree with everything you said and begin by thanking you and the rest of the council for your commitment to the your recent approval of expenditure of some of that.

710
01:18:00,950 --> 01:18:06,770
I'll measure see money for maintenance and capital improvement at the, at the conventioners.

711
01:18:06,930 --> 01:18:16,050
You note it's absolutely critical and an expansion ultimately could prove to be important

712
01:18:16,050 --> 01:18:16,830
and a good thing.

713
01:18:16,970 --> 01:18:22,970
But what has to happen is we have to, we have to not have that tire facility get more tired.

714
01:18:23,310 --> 01:18:26,530
And so thank you very much for, for this Council's commitment to that.

715
01:18:26,530 --> 01:18:35,010
And in terms of your question about going forward and are interested in engaging with you on that, the answer is of course, and we look forward to doing that.

716
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:36,770
Okay, thank you very much.

717
01:18:36,970 --> 01:18:39,550
People much smarter than me will be leading those discussions.

718
01:18:39,830 --> 01:18:43,970
I just wanted to put it out there that something I think could benefit all of us.

719
01:18:44,450 --> 01:18:48,730
Especially since we finally secure the tax revenue on an ongoing basis, we might as well leverage that.

720
01:18:49,550 --> 01:18:50,450
So, but thank you.

721
01:18:50,530 --> 01:18:52,790
I'm really excited to see all the new projects coming up.

722
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:55,070
The radio cell is one of my favorite projects

723
01:18:55,070 --> 01:18:57,710
at the city in the poor and the whole region is done recently.

724
01:18:58,810 --> 01:19:02,390
So who's huge kudos to that, looking forward to top golf and everything else.

725
01:19:02,890 --> 01:19:03,910
So thank you again for your work.

726
01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:06,810
Thank you for representing the city of San Diego so well on our behalf.

727
01:19:07,150 --> 01:19:08,650
And we appreciate you.

728
01:19:08,670 --> 01:19:10,190
Thank you.

729
01:19:10,190 --> 01:19:10,470
All right.

730
01:19:10,590 --> 01:19:10,870
Thank you.

731
01:19:10,930 --> 01:19:13,430
We'll go next to Councilmember Whitburne.

732
01:19:14,010 --> 01:19:14,950
Thank you, Council President.

733
01:19:15,450 --> 01:19:19,650
Thank you, Vice Chair, Suket, and Commissioner Varokara, Commissioner Moore.

734
01:19:19,650 --> 01:19:24,930
I was quite an update, really appreciate you taking the time to come in and brief us on

735
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:30,650
all that is new and happening in particularly within the City of San Diego.

736
01:19:30,650 --> 01:19:37,410
I think it's worth emphasizing that the Port of San Diego is its own agency, its own

737
01:19:37,410 --> 01:19:44,550
jurisdiction, but the activities that you highlighted very directly benefit city of

738
01:19:44,550 --> 01:19:47,310
of San Diego residents, and people from around the region,

739
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:49,590
but for our purposes, San Diego residents,

740
01:19:49,790 --> 01:19:51,610
you are doing a lot of good for the city.

741
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:55,130
And you look just at some of the things right here

742
01:19:55,130 --> 01:19:55,610
downtown.

743
01:19:55,730 --> 01:19:59,950
Freedom Park is going to be a beautiful new park right

744
01:19:59,950 --> 01:20:01,050
along the Bay downtown.

745
01:20:01,490 --> 01:20:03,410
You've got Seaport, San Diego.

746
01:20:03,490 --> 01:20:05,850
You were talking about the environmental study on the way,

747
01:20:06,650 --> 01:20:10,710
and underway, and concluding perhaps by the end of the year.

748
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:14,250
That is going to be just a wonderful addition.

749
01:20:14,250 --> 01:20:17,090
and an economic driver to the city.

750
01:20:18,010 --> 01:20:20,950
Thank goodness, those Navy office buildings are being redeveloped.

751
01:20:20,970 --> 01:20:24,910
That'll be good to see along Pacific Highway.

752
01:20:25,630 --> 01:20:29,130
You mentioned the maritime clean air strategy,

753
01:20:29,350 --> 01:20:33,830
the electrification of the cruise ship terminal benefits

754
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:37,930
all of us here, and just the number of cruise ship passengers

755
01:20:37,930 --> 01:20:39,670
that are activating downtown.

756
01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:51,090
I just very much appreciate what the three of you are doing to accomplish it as the City of City of those representatives to the Park Commission.

757
01:20:52,350 --> 01:20:56,630
And I want to thank the staff leadership that's here as well for all that they're doing.

758
01:20:57,490 --> 01:21:00,890
So thank you. Thank you for all the accomplishments that thank you, Council President.

759
01:21:01,830 --> 01:21:05,990
All right. Thank you, Council Member Woodburn. Not seeing anybody else on the lights.

760
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:07,670
I'll join the chorus.

761
01:21:08,350 --> 01:21:10,290
Thank you to commissioners for taking the time.

762
01:21:10,530 --> 01:21:12,850
As council president, I've been reviewing our council policies

763
01:21:12,850 --> 01:21:14,250
and how many boards and commissions

764
01:21:14,250 --> 01:21:17,650
are supposed to report back to the council on a regular basis.

765
01:21:18,830 --> 01:21:20,370
And you all are one of the ones

766
01:21:20,370 --> 01:21:22,610
that consistently come back year after year.

767
01:21:22,750 --> 01:21:23,470
And as council member,

768
01:21:23,470 --> 01:21:26,710
it doesn't have the transparency in not only the work

769
01:21:26,710 --> 01:21:28,870
that you do every day as commissioners,

770
01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:32,070
as along with your regular lives there,

771
01:21:32,290 --> 01:21:33,650
is very much appreciated.

772
01:21:33,650 --> 01:21:38,310
and communicating that to the council, and I'm sure to the mayor's office, that's

773
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:42,810
something to work that you're doing to make sure that we're all in sync and can manage

774
01:21:42,810 --> 01:21:47,250
just incredible resource that we all get to enjoy.

775
01:21:49,210 --> 01:21:53,190
The projects you do, my wife and I had a chance to stay at the Gailory when it was first

776
01:21:53,190 --> 01:21:53,410
open.

777
01:21:53,750 --> 01:21:59,750
We went out and took a walk and suddenly we saw this incredible renovation and rebuilding

778
01:21:59,750 --> 01:22:05,410
of the environment, coastal sage, and all that was done to the North Fair really pretty

779
01:22:05,410 --> 01:22:11,110
spectacular in that commitment, and I think that really highlights what the port is all

780
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:11,730
about.

781
01:22:11,970 --> 01:22:15,030
It's a good work you do every day, maybe some people will see it, maybe they won't, but

782
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:19,030
it's the right thing to do on any basis.

783
01:22:19,330 --> 01:22:20,250
So thank you for that.

784
01:22:20,410 --> 01:22:25,890
You have an amazing staff that gets that work done every day and navigates all the challenges

785
01:22:25,890 --> 01:22:32,670
that the Port District faces and has navigated us through the economic downturn at COVID

786
01:22:32,670 --> 01:22:39,230
and kind of bounced back both for the working waterfront, but also for the Port tenants

787
01:22:39,230 --> 01:22:45,470
in the contribution they make and certainly in a important part of the TOT that this city relies

788
01:22:45,470 --> 01:22:53,390
on. So thank you for that good work, and I'll highlight the electrification component.

789
01:22:53,390 --> 01:23:00,950
And, yeah, there's no free lunch, but you don't turn on a dime when you make that environmental

790
01:23:00,950 --> 01:23:01,570
commitment.

791
01:23:02,250 --> 01:23:05,870
It takes time, it takes money to make those conversions.

792
01:23:07,210 --> 01:23:16,750
First electric tugboat, the largest and most capable electric cranes on the West Coast.

793
01:23:16,750 --> 01:23:24,150
Those are big, big ideas, not really shows a leadership in the whole blue economy and trying

794
01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:29,510
to figure out what else can this bay really provide as resources rather extraordinary.

795
01:23:30,130 --> 01:23:34,710
So thank you for your commitment and your willingness to continue to lead and I will continue

796
01:23:34,710 --> 01:23:41,070
to be jealous about how fast you can move compared to the city and without adding excuses

797
01:23:41,070 --> 01:23:45,970
As commissioners who kept said, have been involved in the formation of mitigation banks.

798
01:23:46,330 --> 01:23:52,330
It's serious business and every eye has to be dotted in TS and every T has to be crossed to make sure

799
01:23:52,330 --> 01:23:58,550
that those who use the mitigation bank once it's formed really uphold what the original vision was.

800
01:23:59,310 --> 01:24:02,450
So it takes too much time but I know you will get it done.

801
01:24:02,710 --> 01:24:03,810
So thank you for that good work.

802
01:24:04,110 --> 01:24:06,490
Thank you to call for my colleagues, the good work they do.

803
01:24:06,490 --> 01:24:10,670
Now again, we'll just close by saying thank you for taking the time to come out this afternoon.

804
01:24:11,370 --> 01:24:12,530
Thank you.

805
01:24:20,670 --> 01:24:27,250
All right, so we're now going to be talking about items 201 and 202, for those items, there will

806
01:24:27,250 --> 01:24:34,190
be a joint presentation and combined public comment. A separate vote will be taken for item 202,

807
01:24:35,470 --> 01:24:40,530
and no motion will be required for 201, which is just strictly information.

808
01:24:40,530 --> 01:24:45,870
So with that clerk, please introduce items 201 and 202.

809
01:24:46,150 --> 01:24:47,030
Thank you, Council President.

810
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:52,270
Item 201 is the Dam Safety Program and you'll update 2024 to 2025.

811
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:54,350
This is an informational item.

812
01:24:54,690 --> 01:25:00,770
And item 202 is the award of the As needed Dam Design Services Agreements with HDR Engineering Inc.

813
01:25:00,770 --> 01:25:04,910
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814
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:06,570
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01:25:06,570 --> 01:25:07,030
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816
01:25:07,030 --> 01:25:09,750
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817
01:25:11,070 --> 01:25:11,410
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01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:13,110
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819
01:25:13,450 --> 01:25:14,970
mouse a fiction a 199.

820
01:25:15,270 --> 01:25:18,250
If you like to speak on this side of the left or in your speaker and all curry.

821
01:25:19,670 --> 01:25:20,230
Thank

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01:25:21,090 --> 01:25:25,090
people with that staff to show photo and

823
01:25:25,090 --> 01:25:27,850
continue to attend the campaign by the

824
01:25:27,850 --> 01:25:28,270
Blue Island.

825
01:25:28,270 --> 01:25:29,470
Lisa Slia,

826
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:36,280
Kelly Baylow, Deputy Director, Tiffany Kirk, Assistant WD Director,

827
01:25:37,580 --> 01:25:38,920
and we'll need about 20 minutes.

828
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,040
All right, when you're ready.

829
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,440
Good afternoon, Council President LaCava, and City Council members.

830
01:25:45,140 --> 01:25:50,700
Thank you for the opportunity to provide an update on the City of San Diego's dam safety program.

831
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:55,500
Today's presentation will walk through the condition of our dams and water tanks.

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01:25:55,500 --> 01:26:12,940
The programmatic approach we are using in close coordination with our regulator, the division of safety of dams, as well as the significant progress made over the past year to address both immediate safety needs and long-term system resilience.

833
01:26:12,940 --> 01:26:17,760
As you will see, Dam Safety is not a single project or timeline.

834
01:26:18,020 --> 01:26:22,620
It is a sustained parallel effort to protect public safety today,

835
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,760
while planning and delivering the long-term investments required

836
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:31,320
to responsibly manage some of the oldest infrastructure in California.

837
01:26:36,330 --> 01:26:40,110
Dam's and water tanks are essential infrastructure for city water systems

838
01:26:40,110 --> 01:26:43,830
as they store and deliver water to treatment plants,

839
01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:49,850
provide emergency reserves during disasters in managed flood risk.

840
01:26:50,370 --> 01:26:56,570
The city's Public Utilities Departments Dam Safety Program oversees 11 dams in two

841
01:26:56,570 --> 01:27:04,990
potable water tanks, which all fall under the regulatory jurisdiction of California Department

842
01:27:04,990 --> 01:27:11,110
of Water Resources, division of safety of dams, typically referred to as DSOD.

843
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:16,810
The Public Utilities Department coordinates daily, with the San Diego Fire Department, to ensure

844
01:27:16,810 --> 01:27:21,390
our resources are available to assist in their efforts fighting fires.

845
01:27:22,210 --> 01:27:26,370
To the right, you will see some of the different types of water infrastructure, the team

846
01:27:26,370 --> 01:27:26,910
manages.

847
01:27:29,540 --> 01:27:35,200
Dams are particularly crucial as they act as barriers, creating reservoirs that collect,

848
01:27:35,460 --> 01:27:37,460
and store large volumes of water.

849
01:27:37,460 --> 01:27:44,780
Alongside dams, water tanks play a vital role in our water supply by providing storage capacity,

850
01:27:45,540 --> 01:27:50,620
maintaining water pressure throughout the network, and ensuring that treated of drinking

851
01:27:50,620 --> 01:27:57,680
water remains readily available for distribution during peak usage times or in emergency situations.

852
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:04,260
Our reservoirs, dams, and water tanks are connected through a network of pipelines, channels,

853
01:28:04,260 --> 01:28:10,200
and pump stations which facilitate the movement of water to drinking water treatment facilities

854
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,620
into approximately 1.4 million customers.

855
01:28:14,580 --> 01:28:20,120
The water from our reservoirs on average makes up to 10 to 15 percent of the city's water

856
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:20,580
supply.

857
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:27,840
And we've been able to increase that to 30 percent in recent years as a result of receiving

858
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,980
more rainfall in maximizing our operations.

859
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:39,040
As a reminder, water collected in our reservoirs costs roughly $400 per acre foot compared

860
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:44,140
to water purchase from our wholesale or the San Diego kind of water authority that costs over

861
01:28:44,140 --> 01:28:48,060
$2,600 per acre foot. With that, I'll turn over to Kelly.

862
01:28:49,180 --> 01:28:49,720
Thank you, Lisa.

863
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:56,320
DSOD has mandated water level height restrictions on five reservoirs, which will remain in place

864
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,080
until necessary repairs and improvements are completed.

865
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:04,040
These reservoir restrictions marked a fundamental shift for our Dan Safety Program.

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01:29:04,700 --> 01:29:09,960
Up until this point our program was focused primarily on routine operations and maintenance.

867
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:15,180
In coordination with our regulator, the Public Utilities Department has been working to implement

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01:29:15,180 --> 01:29:19,020
and utilize a forward-looking, programmatic, Dan Safety Approach.

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01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,560
What this slide depicts is the reality of our work today.

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01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:45,900
Damsafety is no longer sequential. It requires a proactive, sustained parallel effort, where continuous assessments, inspections, maintenance and repair projects are done, while we simultaneously plan and develop a long-term risk-based capital program that will fundamentally reshape the Damsystem through rehabilitation, replacement, and removal over the coming decades.

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01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:53,140
PUD is continuing to implement a nationally recognized DM safety standard, integrating strategic

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01:29:53,140 --> 01:29:58,480
planning with comprehensive program management to address both safety and operational challenges.

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01:29:59,300 --> 01:29:59,960
This slide shows

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:26,940
Those the components included in the comprehensive DMCV program, which include performing approximately 400 maintenance and inspection activities each year, completing 159 condition assessments to evaluate facility conditions and identify near-term, interim and long-term risk reduction measures, designing and constructing approximately 27 repair projects, and we've identified at least three long-term improvements.

875
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:32,400
We currently estimate that approximately $3 billion will be needed over the coming decades

876
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:33,940
to complete all the improvements.

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01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,280
Building our internal team has been a priority.

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01:30:38,060 --> 01:30:43,540
We established a dedicated team in 2020 and now have 110 team members across the city,

879
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:49,880
focusing on projects that address critical deficiencies, including seismic stability, overtopping,

880
01:30:50,020 --> 01:30:51,780
concrete deterioration, and erosion.

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01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:57,820
In parallel, our last year alone part of me, the program oversight team grew from 8-20 full-time

882
01:30:57,820 --> 01:31:01,160
staff with expertise in both engineering and environmental.

883
01:31:03,300 --> 01:31:08,700
Our operations expanded from four to six dedicated crews and we doubled our equipment resources

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01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:11,220
to be able to deliver more work in-house.

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01:31:12,380 --> 01:31:17,320
In parallel, the program prioritized on going damn safety training to build internal knowledge.

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01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:25,040
But in addition to these internal resources, the DM safety program also requires specialized third-party expertise

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01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,860
due to the complexity and long-term nature of the projects involved.

888
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:37,320
All of these resourceing efforts combined enable us to meet increasingly complex and evolving DM safety requirements.

889
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:46,520
Without proper resourceing PUD would not be in a position to proactively manage risk as opposed to reacting to findings from our regulator.

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01:31:49,540 --> 01:31:53,780
Understanding the condition of our dams and water tanks is critical to informing risk-based

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01:31:53,780 --> 01:31:58,200
decisions on maintenance, repair, and long-term investments to protect downstream communities

892
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:03,740
and water supply. We are making significant progress in completing assessments for our highest

893
01:32:03,740 --> 01:32:10,320
risk and poorest condition dams. Two days, we have completed 60 condition assessments with an additional

894
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:15,040
13 currently in progress and the remaining assessments plan through the year 2032.

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01:32:15,860 --> 01:32:24,120
Showing here are pictures of helicopter supported geotechnical drilling and investigations completed last year at lower OTI and Barrett Dam.

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01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:30,660
Helicopter access is required due to the steep terrain, limited access, and sensitive environmental resources.

897
01:32:32,020 --> 01:32:43,240
These investigations provide critical information on foundation conditions, help confirm future design assumptions, and support evaluations of whether the dams can meet modern safety standards.

898
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:51,300
While we continue to advance long-term planning, near-term repairs and maintenance projects are needed.

899
01:32:52,020 --> 01:32:56,100
Over the past year, we've completed numerous repairs to address known deficiencies.

900
01:32:57,360 --> 01:33:02,520
These included clearing the lower portion of the spillway at El Capitán Dam to restore hydraulic capacity,

901
01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:07,440
completing vault and valve improvements at Miramar Dam to improve reservoir operability,

902
01:33:08,440 --> 01:33:13,220
repairing handrails at Barrett and lower OTIDAMs to support crew access for inspections and maintenance.

903
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:21,080
Looking ahead, 14 repair projects are currently in design to upgrade monitoring systems, repair

904
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:25,760
concrete, and improve outlet works, remove vegetation, and strengthen security.

905
01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:31,080
Four additional projects are in planning to address intake restoration and emergency

906
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:36,220
drawdown requirements, and construction on five projects will begin this upcoming calendar

907
01:33:36,220 --> 01:33:36,740
year.

908
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:43,200
Additionally, our operations team actively manages reservoir levels to stay below DSOD management

909
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:48,200
needed thresholds, and has made important system improvements, including faster reporting

910
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:53,320
of field issues, real-time monitoring of raw water reservoirs through the one-rain system,

911
01:33:54,020 --> 01:33:59,340
and the first-ever use of high-resolution lidar at L. Capitana Marana dams to support ongoing

912
01:33:59,340 --> 01:34:01,380
monitoring and movement of surface changes.

913
01:34:03,570 --> 01:34:06,150
As always, we are working to balance critical

914
01:34:06,150 --> 01:34:11,270
infrastructure needs with affordability for our rate payers. Program funding comes from

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01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:16,630
water utility capital improvement program and water operating funds and as future costs are refined

916
01:34:16,630 --> 01:34:21,650
they will be reflected in PUD's annual five year financial outlook which informs the city's

917
01:34:21,650 --> 01:34:27,990
water rate setting process. We continue to proactively pursue state and federal funding opportunities

918
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:34,210
to help reduce costs for ratepayers. To date $1.7 million in state and federal funding has been

919
01:34:34,210 --> 01:34:39,490
secured for ongoing initiatives including seismic stability analysis and geotechnical investigations

920
01:34:39,490 --> 01:34:44,450
at El Capitán, Barrett and Hodges Dam's is shown on the pictures to the right.

921
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:50,910
In total, the city has applied for approximately $322 million in external funding, including

922
01:34:50,910 --> 01:34:56,410
$77 million in grant funding, and selection by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to submit

923
01:34:56,410 --> 01:35:02,990
a full application for $241 million in low-cost loan-fansing financing for dam improvement

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01:35:02,990 --> 01:35:04,530
projects through the year 231.

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01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:16,480
This slide shows PUD's strategic phasing plan to address dam safety across all 13 DSOD regulated facilities based on available financing.

926
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:25,580
At the top of the timeline each facility is shown with its DSOD condition rating and the year we plan to complete long-term improvement plans.

927
01:35:26,300 --> 01:35:34,060
Dam's and fair for our unsatisfactory condition are addressed first, followed by facilities and satisfactory condition in later years.

928
01:35:34,820 --> 01:35:39,440
In addition to facility condition, the timing of the long-term improvement planning considers

929
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:45,060
factors such as downstream risk, required water level restrictions, the role of each reservoir

930
01:35:45,060 --> 01:35:48,360
in the water supply system, and coordination with the city's pure water program.

931
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,800
At the bottom of this timeline are the program level efforts that guides system-wide decisions.

932
01:35:54,660 --> 01:35:58,800
This work begins with updating the water model to identify the most critical reservoirs

933
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:04,760
for long-term wireless supply, supporting PUD's goal of increasing local water use to 60%

934
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:05,940
by the year 2040.

935
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:13,780
In 2028, we plan to complete a program plan to help manage risk, and in 2032, we will

936
01:36:13,780 --> 01:36:17,980
have the data and plans in place to develop a strategic capital improvement phase in plan

937
01:36:17,980 --> 01:36:21,480
that sequences work across the system for decades to come.

938
01:36:22,700 --> 01:36:26,640
This information together with condition assessments and long-term improvement plans will

939
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:30,320
give us a comprehensive and holistic understanding of which reservoirs are most critical.

940
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,200
Where long-term infrastructure investments provide the greatest value, allowing us to

941
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:38,900
strategically strategically, strategically phase, dam safety improvements over time.

942
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:44,340
This planning is happening alongside active projects, with repairs moving forward to keep

943
01:36:44,340 --> 01:36:48,920
our dam safe and operational, while long-term strategic planning efforts are underway.

944
01:36:51,110 --> 01:36:56,070
So we know we cannot replace or upgrade all of our high-risk dams at the same time.

945
01:36:56,070 --> 01:37:02,790
These projects are large, complex, taking many years to plan, fund, design, and build.

946
01:37:03,710 --> 01:37:07,490
Because of this, we're using a phased risk-based approach.

947
01:37:08,410 --> 01:37:13,190
Long-term improvements are prioritized and sequenced over time, while interim repairs are

948
01:37:13,190 --> 01:37:18,290
done to manage safety until permanent solutions are delivered.

949
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:25,010
City Council's prior approval of our as-needed program management agreement allows us to assess

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01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:30,110
VM conditions, set priorities and plan this work in phases as shown on the left side of

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01:37:30,110 --> 01:37:30,610
the slide.

952
01:37:31,750 --> 01:37:34,610
However, that agreement supports planning and assessments only.

953
01:37:35,050 --> 01:37:39,310
It does not include the design or construction oversight services needed to implement repair

954
01:37:39,310 --> 01:37:39,830
projects.

955
01:37:40,710 --> 01:37:45,190
The next step is securing new, as needed, DAM design service agreement.

956
01:37:46,430 --> 01:37:51,210
So, priority-DAM safety projects can move forward from planning, into design and construction,

957
01:37:51,210 --> 01:37:56,710
helping to avoid emergency-driven actions and to ensure steady, responsible progress.

958
01:37:57,750 --> 01:38:02,650
Without these design-service contracts, we would be unable to move forward immediately with

959
01:38:02,650 --> 01:38:04,710
critical dam safety repair projects.

960
01:38:06,410 --> 01:38:11,210
Shown on this slide are some examples of upcoming dam safety projects at Murray, Southern

961
01:38:11,210 --> 01:38:16,070
and Lower Oty dams that require design work before the projects can move forward.

962
01:38:18,310 --> 01:38:20,990
While long-term improvements are being implemented,

963
01:38:21,470 --> 01:38:22,890
a process that can take decades,

964
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:27,790
interim projects are needed to manage risks and maintain regulatory compliance.

965
01:38:29,550 --> 01:38:32,950
Examples of projects include seismic upgrades to Murray,

966
01:38:33,270 --> 01:38:34,770
outlet tower and dam structure,

967
01:38:36,050 --> 01:38:39,090
intake and outlet improvements at southern end reservoir.

968
01:38:40,290 --> 01:38:45,390
Concrete repairs that lower OTI to maintain structural integrity and safe access.

969
01:38:46,630 --> 01:38:52,470
All of these projects, these projects ran from smaller but critical repairs around $18 million

970
01:38:52,470 --> 01:38:56,850
to major rehabilitation projects costing upwards of $40 to $80 million.

971
01:38:58,270 --> 01:39:02,470
From initial studies through design, environmental review, permitting and construction,

972
01:39:03,310 --> 01:39:07,690
individual damn safety projects can take 7 to 10 years or more to deliver.

973
01:39:09,050 --> 01:39:12,710
That brings us to the action item for your consideration today.

974
01:39:13,610 --> 01:39:21,450
PUD is proposing to 10-year as needed dam design services contracts, each and an amount not to exceed $75 million.

975
01:39:22,610 --> 01:39:30,710
It's important to note this work was included in the water rates Council approved last year is in PUD's budget as well as our five-year outlook.

976
01:39:30,710 --> 01:39:36,470
Council will hear an annual dam safety update and have an opportunity during each budget and

977
01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:41,710
fiber outlet process, as well as any future rate case to receive additional information

978
01:39:41,710 --> 01:39:44,130
on this program and its associated spending.

979
01:39:45,910 --> 01:39:49,730
Highly skilled experts in dam design and engineering and environmental compliance and construction

980
01:39:49,730 --> 01:39:53,530
support will complement the strong internal team we have built.

981
01:39:54,470 --> 01:39:58,450
The proposed contract duration and amount are based on detailed engineering estimates in

982
01:39:58,450 --> 01:40:05,650
historical data, aligning with the extensive timeframe needed for specialized dam repair and rehabilitation projects.

983
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:16,860
Long term as needed design agreements ensure continuity of expertise, regulatory coordination, and timely delivery of required critical dam safety work.

984
01:40:18,180 --> 01:40:27,940
The RFP selection process began in 2024. Two firms, HDR and STAC were selected as a preferred providers following a qualifications-based selection.

985
01:40:28,620 --> 01:40:33,700
Both firms would work on a rotating basis, task order basis, ensuring fairness and consistent

986
01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:36,120
access to dam design expertise.

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01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,680
Listed on this slide are the services the agreements will provide, including dam engineering

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01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:47,880
analysis, design development, permit and regulatory coordination, environmental planning,

989
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:50,260
and construction phase engineering support.

990
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:56,000
The consultants will support the study delivery of maintenance, repair and rehabilitation projects

991
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,960
for spillways, outlets, and dam structures.

992
01:41:01,310 --> 01:41:04,330
PUD is requesting your approval of two 10-year

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01:41:04,330 --> 01:41:07,310
as needed dam design services agreements with HDR

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01:41:07,310 --> 01:41:10,870
and Stantack each and an amount not to exceed $75 million.

995
01:41:11,950 --> 01:41:14,970
Funded through the water utility CIP and operating fund

996
01:41:14,970 --> 01:41:17,690
and included within both the recently approved water rates

997
01:41:17,690 --> 01:41:20,910
in PUD's five-year outlook, each agreement

998
01:41:20,910 --> 01:41:23,310
would carry a minimum spend of $1,000.

999
01:41:24,910 --> 01:41:26,850
These agreements are essential for delivering

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01:41:26,850 --> 01:41:32,590
critical dam safety projects, ensuring that our dams and water tanks remain safe, reliable, and

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01:41:32,590 --> 01:41:38,010
compliant with DSOD requirements, while continuing to meet community needs for decades to come.

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01:41:38,930 --> 01:41:40,670
Importantly, these are as needed agreements.

1003
01:41:41,010 --> 01:41:43,930
There is no obligation to use the full contract amount.

1004
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:47,270
The work is authorized only through individual taskwriters.

1005
01:41:47,770 --> 01:41:52,170
Even if the full value were utilized over the 10-year term, it would equate to approximately

1006
01:41:52,170 --> 01:41:56,210
$7.5 million per year each contract.

1007
01:41:56,210 --> 01:42:00,570
This provides us long-term flexibility rather than a single up front commitment.

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01:42:02,050 --> 01:42:06,330
Your support for these four of the ordinances requested today for approval of the two

1009
01:42:06,330 --> 01:42:11,690
as needed dam design services agreements will help us continue to safeguard our water infrastructure,

1010
01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:19,290
protect the public, meet our regulatory requirements, and enhance the resilience and sustainability of our water system.

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01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:23,810
We thank you for your consideration and we are here to answer any questions you may have.

1012
01:42:24,590 --> 01:42:30,410
All right. Thank you very much for the presentation. And with that, clerk, please proceed with public comment.

1013
01:42:30,930 --> 01:42:37,370
Thank you, Council President. We have several speakers here. And online Ronda Ferrar, if you can please come forward.

1014
01:42:37,730 --> 01:42:42,350
You'll have time seated to you by Mary Ellen Lee, if you can please raise your hand.

1015
01:42:42,850 --> 01:42:46,630
Thank you so much. If I can have the following individuals, please come forward to the yellow reserve seats.

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01:42:46,630 --> 01:42:50,950
Monique Lacer, Steve Lacer, and Robert Dudley.

1017
01:42:51,370 --> 01:42:53,410
If you can all please come to the yellow reserve seats,

1018
01:42:53,890 --> 01:42:57,230
you will have two minutes for item 201.

1019
01:42:58,050 --> 01:42:58,930
Please proceed already.

1020
01:43:00,170 --> 01:43:02,110
Good afternoon, Honorable Council President,

1021
01:43:02,410 --> 01:43:04,090
Council members and city staff.

1022
01:43:04,630 --> 01:43:05,830
My name is Ronda Ferrar,

1023
01:43:05,850 --> 01:43:07,930
and I'm president of the Friends of Lake Hodges.

1024
01:43:08,350 --> 01:43:11,110
Who's mission it is to support local government efforts

1025
01:43:11,110 --> 01:43:14,990
to improve Lake Hodges' dam safety and capacity,

1026
01:43:14,990 --> 01:43:19,650
water quality, wildlife habitat, and public access for the benefit of our community.

1027
01:43:20,410 --> 01:43:24,090
For over a hundred years, Lake Hodges has been a crown jewel in North County,

1028
01:43:24,650 --> 01:43:28,150
a vital drinking water reservoir, a critical habitat for wildlife,

1029
01:43:28,590 --> 01:43:32,210
an recreational haven for hikers, burders, fishermen, and paddlers.

1030
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:37,490
But the damn that makes this lake possible is currently unsafe and in danger of failing.

1031
01:43:38,110 --> 01:43:41,150
Council members, this is not a future problem, this is a current crisis.

1032
01:43:41,150 --> 01:43:45,950
The existing dam is 108 years old and deemed unsatisfactory by the DSOD.

1033
01:43:46,650 --> 01:43:49,750
It is the worst, it's in the worst shape of all the dams in California,

1034
01:43:50,430 --> 01:43:53,670
which is why the state has mandated construction begin by 2029.

1035
01:43:55,010 --> 01:43:58,430
While we applaud the city's plan to evaluate all the dams in San Diego,

1036
01:43:58,890 --> 01:44:02,750
it is most concerning that the current study of the Lake Hodge's alternatives

1037
01:44:02,750 --> 01:44:05,590
is now expected to be delayed until the end of the year.

1038
01:44:06,370 --> 01:44:08,970
Lake Hodge has the largest watershed in San Diego.

1039
01:44:08,970 --> 01:44:13,550
So one inch of rain can raise the lake an entire lake of foot.

1040
01:44:14,030 --> 01:44:16,950
There's too much building downstream in Rancho Santa Fe

1041
01:44:16,950 --> 01:44:19,930
and the other communities there for there not to be a dam

1042
01:44:19,930 --> 01:44:20,810
for flood control.

1043
01:44:21,090 --> 01:44:21,990
We need a new dam.

1044
01:44:22,510 --> 01:44:25,470
If the dam fails tomorrow, downstream communities would be flooded.

1045
01:44:26,010 --> 01:44:28,690
Like Hodgman would become a stagnant pool of wildlife.

1046
01:44:29,710 --> 01:44:31,910
And the wildlife that inhabit the lake would die.

1047
01:44:32,350 --> 01:44:35,330
We would lose the ability to provide water to the Rancho Santa Fe

1048
01:44:35,330 --> 01:44:36,750
and Santa Guida water districts.

1049
01:44:36,750 --> 01:44:41,990
The Sandagito Lagoon, which taxpayers have spent millions of dollars restoring, would dry up,

1050
01:44:42,170 --> 01:44:45,950
decimating the wetlands and endangered bird populations that depend on it.

1051
01:44:46,290 --> 01:44:49,010
And the $2008 million pump storage facility,

1052
01:44:49,630 --> 01:44:53,070
our region's largest battery for clean energy, would be rendered useless.

1053
01:44:53,970 --> 01:44:56,850
We would lose the ability to move water where it's needed during a drought.

1054
01:44:57,610 --> 01:44:59,950
A new down needs to be designed, funded, and built as soon as...

1055
01:45:00,820 --> 01:45:06,280
This is the best source of drinking water for downstream water districts, and the lowest cost water available to the region.

1056
01:45:07,020 --> 01:45:09,580
Although the water authority does not clearly put in comment.

1057
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:10,760
I thought it was four minutes.

1058
01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:16,020
You have two minutes. You had one person. You took time. You only submitted for item 201.

1059
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,420
Did you want to speak to item 202 as well?

1060
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:19,920
Could I finish my call?

1061
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,100
Please continue. I just have another minute.

1062
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:29,020
A new down needs to be designed, funded, and built as an as possible is the best source of drinking water for downstream water districts,

1063
01:45:29,020 --> 01:45:31,620
and the lowest cost of water available to the region.

1064
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,300
Although the water authority does not currently believe it needs the water and lake

1065
01:45:35,300 --> 01:45:40,680
Hodges for the regions, that is likely to change over the 100 year life expectancy of a new dam.

1066
01:45:41,260 --> 01:45:47,200
The new dam needs to be at least of sufficient height to allow the transfer of water to the rest of the region's water supply,

1067
01:45:47,640 --> 01:45:54,080
and for the billions of gallons of water, a precious rainwater to not be released to the ocean for the next 100 years.

1068
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:58,700
The Friends of Lake Hodges represents thousands of residents who use the Slake, where

1069
01:45:58,700 --> 01:46:02,800
we're asking you to prioritize the safety and reliability for a region, where we're asking

1070
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,680
you to direct staff to expedite design, building, and construction process to meet the

1071
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,620
states 2029 deadline for construction.

1072
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:14,660
We have you to collaborate with the city, county, and federal governments to secure

1073
01:46:14,660 --> 01:46:16,220
funding for this project.

1074
01:46:16,460 --> 01:46:21,360
Every month we make wait, construction costs rise and the risk of catastrophic failure increases.

1075
01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:24,720
We are grambling with a critical piece or infrastructure.

1076
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:29,440
Should this dam fail, the cost of building a new dam with it increased exponentially,

1077
01:46:30,100 --> 01:46:33,400
then the cost of replacing the dam now with existing dam in place?

1078
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:35,660
Let's not wait for disaster.

1079
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:40,100
Let's prevent it. On behalf of the thousands who live work and play around like

1080
01:46:40,100 --> 01:46:43,540
Hodges, I urge you to direct staff to expedite this project.

1081
01:46:43,860 --> 01:46:46,900
Let's get this done. Thank you.

1082
01:46:46,900 --> 01:46:50,780
Thank you, next this morning. You're speaking on item 202.

1083
01:46:53,170 --> 01:46:54,470
You'll have one minute. Please proceed.

1084
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:06,220
My name is Monique Lesher and I'm representing raise Lake Hodges and 80,000 Sandy Agons and an entire wetlands ecosystem.

1085
01:47:07,660 --> 01:47:13,380
As someone who's worked for environmental organizations for most of my life, I'm happy to see your devotion to the environment.

1086
01:47:13,380 --> 01:47:20,300
But Lake Hodges is an environmental tragedy waiting to happen.

1087
01:47:20,940 --> 01:47:27,380
We support a new dam, but the city budget clearly does not support a $300 million replacement

1088
01:47:27,380 --> 01:47:28,640
anytime soon.

1089
01:47:30,220 --> 01:47:38,160
So in the meantime, Lake Hodges remains a 285 feet, that's roughly 16% capacity, and the

1090
01:47:38,160 --> 01:47:40,440
sand to get over Mount Lee is paying the price.

1091
01:47:40,440 --> 01:47:47,600
The lake's not just a reservoir, it's wildlife corridor, it's a wetland ecosystem, and it is a fire buffer.

1092
01:47:48,140 --> 01:47:55,840
There has been no environmental impact upstream of the dam, and the lake bed is drying out.

1093
01:47:55,940 --> 01:48:01,300
The grubs there used to be, wow, that was fast, all right, thank you.

1094
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:02,800
Thank you.

1095
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:08,540
The timer is there in the corner, so you can monitor your time, Steve Lysher, your speaking on item 202.

1096
01:48:08,540 --> 01:48:09,320
My

1097
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:17,640
name is Steve Lashar, I'm also a part of the Hodges gang here.

1098
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,540
I just wanted to talk a little bit about the unintended cost,

1099
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:24,460
you know, the cascaded cost that's involved in this.

1100
01:48:25,140 --> 01:48:28,700
So what happens is our property taxes are elevated,

1101
01:48:29,780 --> 01:48:33,680
because the amount of our home values actually continues to decrease.

1102
01:48:34,180 --> 01:48:36,340
For example, that would be the Pacific Palicades,

1103
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:37,780
the treasures happen there.

1104
01:48:38,580 --> 01:48:41,640
More than 90% of the people have yet to receive any insurance

1105
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:47,740
of the California Fire Plan, less than 10% have received anything, those that have only

1106
01:48:47,740 --> 01:48:50,820
received an average of 10% of what they followed for.

1107
01:48:50,820 --> 01:48:52,760
We're in the next and long for that to happen.

1108
01:48:53,760 --> 01:48:56,680
So, the cost of property taxes are inappropriate.

1109
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:01,400
Proper taxes, California Fire Plan says no, our properties are worthless.

1110
01:49:02,420 --> 01:49:03,060
In addition,

1111
01:49:06,460 --> 01:49:10,260
our water costs are higher, barring rates are higher.

1112
01:49:10,260 --> 01:49:13,160
there's no competition, selling our properties will be harder,

1113
01:49:13,580 --> 01:49:16,160
unless it's a life property we take in service work.

1114
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:18,860
So, anyway, there's a lot of cascaded effects that go on.

1115
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:20,720
Thank you for that considering comment, Robert.

1116
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:29,760
Good afternoon, I'm Robert Dudley.

1117
01:49:30,700 --> 01:49:33,980
And the city of San Diego is my closest neighbor.

1118
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:40,080
I also am on the CAC Council, which I appreciate the patients

1119
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:44,280
and a contribution of Council President LaCaba

1120
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:46,680
and Council Member Wilbur.

1121
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,000
I brought this up probably two years ago,

1122
01:49:51,340 --> 01:49:55,640
and in that time we have lost opportunity.

1123
01:49:57,120 --> 01:50:00,420
The big difference is what happened in LA,

1124
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,840
the fires of LA have changed everything.

1125
01:50:06,730 --> 01:50:09,110
Last week, the mayor directed the PUD

1126
01:50:09,110 --> 01:50:11,050
to flush more precious water,

1127
01:50:11,050 --> 01:50:12,790
local water downstream to the ocean,

1128
01:50:12,890 --> 01:50:14,610
while the city has done nothing to address

1129
01:50:17,130 --> 01:50:20,850
So, I stand in favor of the action now before us.

1130
01:50:21,090 --> 01:50:26,850
Repair and replacement of the dam restoring the city's commitment to the emergency storage project.

1131
01:50:27,650 --> 01:50:33,450
empirically, there has been may have be extended in the additional two minutes for 201.

1132
01:50:34,250 --> 01:50:36,150
It would be an additional minute for 201.

1133
01:50:36,650 --> 01:50:38,450
Thank you.

1134
01:50:38,450 --> 01:50:46,110
So there's been no major dam collapse in California since 1928.

1135
01:50:47,450 --> 01:50:53,150
At the same time, we've seen increases in the risk of fire throughout California.

1136
01:50:54,690 --> 01:51:02,450
This body must recognize that urban wildfire represents the greatest accidental threat to the citizens of San Diego.

1137
01:51:02,450 --> 01:51:12,850
the Palisades and Altadina fires of 2025 and the Campfire of 2018 collectively resulted in 116 deaths.

1138
01:51:14,270 --> 01:51:22,310
255,000 displaced citizens and more than 34,000 structures destroyed with a loss of 69 billion dollars.

1139
01:51:22,970 --> 01:51:23,730
What have we learned?

1140
01:51:23,730 --> 01:51:30,610
And the interim, the instant captains reported that each situation, the fires, we're behaving

1141
01:51:30,610 --> 01:51:35,770
like they'd never seen before, fires are different than they were in the past years.

1142
01:51:36,210 --> 01:51:41,610
So we really need to address this, and I would support what Ron said, that we really need

1143
01:51:41,610 --> 01:51:46,290
to look at replacement of this dam, and in the meantime, that's true to the fire.

1144
01:51:46,970 --> 01:51:47,270
Thank you.

1145
01:51:47,370 --> 01:51:48,030
Thank you.

1146
01:51:48,170 --> 01:51:49,130
I started the five minutes time.

1147
01:51:49,250 --> 01:51:49,810
We're going to those.

1148
01:51:50,250 --> 01:51:52,310
That does conclude public comment here in Council Chambers.

1149
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:55,350
I've started the five-minute time recording those participating remotely.

1150
01:51:55,350 --> 01:51:57,630
We currently have four speakers in the queue.

1151
01:51:57,690 --> 01:52:01,250
Please be sure to let me know which item or items you wish to speak to when I am.

1152
01:52:01,550 --> 01:52:03,370
You John Stump if you can please unmute.

1153
01:52:05,250 --> 01:52:05,610
Thank you.

1154
01:52:05,870 --> 01:52:07,270
I'm speaking to both items.

1155
01:52:08,170 --> 01:52:09,810
You'll have two minutes one minute each.

1156
01:52:09,850 --> 01:52:10,350
Please proceed.

1157
01:52:11,170 --> 01:52:11,670
Thank you.

1158
01:52:11,850 --> 01:52:13,350
I support this item.

1159
01:52:13,970 --> 01:52:18,390
I'm particularly concerned about the damn called Troyus.

1160
01:52:18,390 --> 01:52:24,050
The damn call choice is the city park choice lake.

1161
01:52:24,650 --> 01:52:32,870
This dam is more than 110 years old of a unique type, no longer built, and if it failed,

1162
01:52:33,810 --> 01:52:42,930
it would flood to the San Diego Bay in danger some 5,000 homes and 10,000 sleeping residents.

1163
01:52:42,930 --> 01:52:50,410
You have engineers on your council, they could look at the structure of this dam.

1164
01:52:51,250 --> 01:52:52,190
It's very strange.

1165
01:52:55,170 --> 01:52:59,470
What I ask is that the council,

1166
01:53:02,130 --> 01:53:12,330
look into opportunities to fill choice lake instead of with potable water, which is doing now.

1167
01:53:14,290 --> 01:53:18,610
But with either using pure water or storm water.

1168
01:53:19,590 --> 01:53:37,890
Finally, if you look at the staff report, nowhere in the staff report, do they talk about the stakeholders as being parks on recreation and the recreation councils and the community councils?

1169
01:53:37,890 --> 01:53:48,990
We need the staff reports in the future and this contract to consult with Parks and Recreation,

1170
01:53:49,390 --> 01:53:52,030
concerning Chroyus Lake Dam.

1171
01:53:52,770 --> 01:53:54,070
Thank you very much.

1172
01:53:54,630 --> 01:53:55,550
Keep us safe.

1173
01:53:56,870 --> 01:53:57,110
Thank you.

1174
01:53:57,250 --> 01:53:58,150
Next is phone number.

1175
01:53:58,150 --> 01:54:05,110
ending in 8700. If you can, sorry. If you can please un-mute.

1176
01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:07,910
8700.

1177
01:54:15,700 --> 01:54:17,080
8700 and have sent you

1178
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,960
an un-mute. You can press R6 on mute.

1179
01:54:23,980 --> 01:54:29,200
Hello. Yes, hello. Are you speaking on mute? Yes, I can hear

1180
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:35,580
you. Okay, well, I did the star six both times perfectly, so I don't know what happened.

1181
01:54:36,420 --> 01:54:39,900
Let's see the clerk. I will be doing both items. Thank you.

1182
01:54:40,100 --> 01:54:40,880
Thanks for saying.

1183
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:49,980
First of all, QD and, you know, everyone involved in this.

1184
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:52,400
You have my full support.

1185
01:54:52,900 --> 01:54:54,100
This is a mess.

1186
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:56,640
But put that behind us.

1187
01:54:57,100 --> 01:54:59,580
We've got what we've gotten now. You have my full support.

1188
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:04,240
The Colorado River Accordock is 242 miles long.

1189
01:55:04,620 --> 01:55:07,260
It provides 50 to 60% of our water.

1190
01:55:07,260 --> 01:55:13,340
local dams such as Lake Hodges. Thank you speakers for speaking up

1191
01:55:13,340 --> 01:55:18,960
with Lake Hodges. Love you. So Lake Hodges and the other dams act as

1192
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:27,560
critical storage for this important water blending it with local runoff to

1193
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:34,840
supply the city with the water we need. Dam safety equals ongoing maintenance.

1194
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:40,120
deferred maintenance is not safe, it creates high risk.

1195
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:46,040
As I said, this whole thing, the whole water supply system,

1196
01:55:46,380 --> 01:55:47,620
it's a mess.

1197
01:55:48,780 --> 01:55:52,860
But let's look for the opportunities and let's go there

1198
01:55:52,860 --> 01:55:54,120
and do it.

1199
01:55:54,140 --> 01:55:57,080
Whatever we need to do now, you have my stool support

1200
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,320
and I just love all of you.

1201
01:55:59,340 --> 01:56:00,960
This is really tough work.

1202
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:10,280
Okay, on tool two, quite a lot of the underrepresentation is there in both HDR and stand tech.

1203
01:56:11,500 --> 01:56:17,340
Both companies do report progress in reducing the underrepresentation.

1204
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:27,080
So I was glad to see that statement, but really really not happy with seeing how much is underrepresentation represented.

1205
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:36,080
So I was confused by the TBDs that 2B decided they were all over the EOC report and I've

1206
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:42,100
never seen that before ever so I don't know what that's all about but in any case water

1207
01:56:42,100 --> 01:56:46,360
water water your time has concluded my apology.

1208
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:51,760
Hector if you can please unmute that also concludes the five minute timer we have two additional speakers

1209
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:53,540
no other speakers will be taken.

1210
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,620
Hector, please let me know which items you wish to speak to.

1211
01:56:57,940 --> 01:57:00,300
I'd like to speak to both of them. Thanks for taking my call.

1212
01:57:00,460 --> 01:57:00,840
Hector.

1213
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:05,480
Well, man, when you listen to this, when you listen to this,

1214
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:08,900
you guys are way over your head on this man.

1215
01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:10,480
You're so fucking ears.

1216
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,460
You guys can't even figure out a parking meter

1217
01:57:13,460 --> 01:57:17,160
and the roof leaks at the convention center for months.

1218
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:19,380
You can't hire a couple of roofers.

1219
01:57:20,060 --> 01:57:21,860
You guys are way over your head.

1220
01:57:21,860 --> 01:57:29,280
I think that the Lake Hodge's lady should contract a private investor to build a dam for profit.

1221
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:35,500
Given the water rights and given the electric generator at the bottom, they could generate electricity.

1222
01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:44,220
Negotiate the rates for the water, let him own the dam, and he could build a dam like 20 feet higher than it is.

1223
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:49,320
like a 50 yards, a hundred yards below the other dam

1224
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:53,820
and had water raise up 20 feet above the existing dam

1225
01:57:53,820 --> 01:57:55,400
and leave it.

1226
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:56,580
And everyone will be cool.

1227
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:57,980
It's just a matter of negotiating.

1228
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:01,460
Talk to the Vectil or something.

1229
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:04,080
Big company, big time guys can build a dam.

1230
01:58:04,380 --> 01:58:05,260
They design it.

1231
01:58:05,380 --> 01:58:05,980
They build it.

1232
01:58:06,240 --> 01:58:07,340
They own it.

1233
01:58:07,580 --> 01:58:11,520
And we'll let them charge for water.

1234
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:16,520
It feels to discount rate on the water and the power that it generates over time, over

1235
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:17,280
100 years.

1236
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:19,780
There could be some guys that will do it.

1237
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,720
Big-time dudes that know how to build dams.

1238
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:28,240
Instead of having the other guys don't even talk about Lake Hodges.

1239
01:58:29,020 --> 01:58:30,120
Look at the other dams.

1240
01:58:30,380 --> 01:58:32,340
There's so many other dams that can look at it.

1241
01:58:32,980 --> 01:58:35,400
Because if you study Lake Hodges, we know it's got to go.

1242
01:58:36,020 --> 01:58:40,780
And we got to get some make it profitable for somebody who doesn't build it.

1243
01:58:40,780 --> 01:58:47,740
And, you know, they build a huge, it'll be a great investment, and the city won't need to touch it.

1244
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:53,040
City's just wasting their money looking at it. They don't got the money. They don't even have

1245
01:58:53,040 --> 01:59:00,460
the money. It's not even there. Thanks a lot. Our next speaker is Blair Beekman. If you can please

1246
01:59:00,460 --> 01:59:01,060
on me.

1247
01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:12,480
Hi. That was Ben. I don't. You can hear me. My dream is going to be really bad today.

1248
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:16,120
I'm on an airplane, headed back to San Diego, from Newark,

1249
01:59:18,220 --> 01:59:18,720
Mayway.

1250
01:59:19,580 --> 01:59:20,080
It's a clicker.

1251
01:59:22,260 --> 01:59:24,600
Are you speaking on both items?

1252
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:26,860
Work after full of discreet.

1253
01:59:27,020 --> 01:59:28,100
Yes, yes.

1254
01:59:29,750 --> 01:59:30,290
Yes, yes.

1255
01:59:31,010 --> 01:59:31,630
Please head in here.

1256
01:59:31,890 --> 01:59:32,150
Yes, sir.

1257
01:59:32,970 --> 01:59:33,510
OK, OK.

1258
01:59:33,990 --> 01:59:35,230
I have to hang up now.

1259
01:59:35,850 --> 01:59:39,670
Lake, yes, I actually offer a lot of good work.

1260
01:59:39,670 --> 01:59:42,870
San Diego's done after flooded use around the enemy use.

1261
01:59:42,870 --> 01:59:47,930
Keep up the good work, have these items a lot on City Council and thank you.

1262
01:59:48,510 --> 01:59:49,940
Our final speaker is Kathleen Lipett.

1263
01:59:53,860 --> 01:59:55,080
Thank you for letting me speak.

1264
01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,180
California is a, I'd like to speak to both items.

1265
01:59:58,500 --> 01:59:59,700
One, two, one, one.

1266
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,480
1-0-2. Can you hear me?

1267
02:00:03,740 --> 02:00:04,220
Please proceed.

1268
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:10,320
California is a desert in waters and necessary and limited resource of the highest

1269
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:16,140
friari. Instead, the public has washed us damn conditions have eroded, not just

1270
02:00:16,140 --> 02:00:21,520
Lake Hodges. The city was worn four years ago that Lake Hodges was deemed a need of

1271
02:00:21,520 --> 02:00:27,500
critical repair. But once again, the city postponed and redirected funds reserved for addressing

1272
02:00:27,500 --> 02:00:33,420
dam maintenance and repaired a numerous other projects, none of which are as critical as

1273
02:00:33,420 --> 02:00:40,200
potable water for the public. The cost of deferred spending for a critical resource or water

1274
02:00:40,780 --> 02:00:48,700
went has gone then from $400 for acre foot to $2600 for imported water. It's inexcusable that

1275
02:00:48,700 --> 02:00:54,080
the city failed to recognize that a dam over a hundred years old should have been monitored regularly

1276
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:56,020
for necessary repairs.

1277
02:00:56,660 --> 02:01:03,520
It's structural degradation and defects were only discovered in 2022, a full-word placement

1278
02:01:03,520 --> 02:01:08,860
of the dime down is currently being planned for repair, but it won't be done until

1279
02:01:08,860 --> 02:01:09,960
2034.

1280
02:01:10,620 --> 02:01:17,740
We wasted $11 billion worth of water that had be flushed out to the ocean because the lake

1281
02:01:17,740 --> 02:01:24,940
could not accommodate the increased water levels to preserve human life and property and

1282
02:01:24,940 --> 02:01:30,080
comply with state regulators in a 2019 order.

1283
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:39,160
Please, stop postponing the projects that you have money set aside to monitor and

1284
02:01:39,500 --> 02:01:43,100
stop putting it towards special interest projects.

1285
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:45,200
Thank you for letting me speak.

1286
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:48,140
Thank you, that concludes public comment on these items.

1287
02:01:48,940 --> 02:01:49,040
All right.

1288
02:01:49,180 --> 02:01:49,960
Thank you, City Clerk.

1289
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:54,580
We'll turn it over to my colleagues for questions and comments.

1290
02:01:55,080 --> 02:01:58,320
Again, to a one as an information item, no actions required.

1291
02:01:58,820 --> 02:02:00,900
To a two does require a motion.

1292
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:05,420
And we'll start with the chair of the act of transportation and infrastructure committee.

1293
02:02:05,780 --> 02:02:06,980
Council member Whitburn.

1294
02:02:07,420 --> 02:02:08,280
Thank you, Council President.

1295
02:02:08,900 --> 02:02:14,540
A couple of other questions since we did discuss this act of transportation and infrastructure committee.

1296
02:02:14,540 --> 02:02:20,480
but I think the points are important to capture here at the council meeting as well.

1297
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:26,660
The design services that are covered by these proposed contracts between the city and HDR

1298
02:02:26,660 --> 02:02:34,160
and Stentec, those will be provided and as needed basis and in other words, the city will only

1299
02:02:34,160 --> 02:02:40,360
pay for the design services that it requests and receives. Correct? That is correct, sir.

1300
02:02:42,020 --> 02:02:43,840
We've been hearing a lot of discussion

1301
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:46,960
around the future of Lake Hodges' dam.

1302
02:02:49,540 --> 02:02:56,140
The state has ordered that the city conducts some measures

1303
02:02:56,140 --> 02:02:59,180
to reduce the risk of a dam failure.

1304
02:03:00,460 --> 02:03:02,380
And those measures are not going to be cheap.

1305
02:03:03,580 --> 02:03:04,940
So I want to ask for the record.

1306
02:03:05,600 --> 02:03:07,960
Given the questions about Lake Hodges' dam,

1307
02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:15,200
does the city have a choice about whether or not to perform the state mandated risk reduction

1308
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:17,500
measures at Lake Hodges' dam?

1309
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:22,800
No, we're required to do those risk reduction measures, and that is what these dam services

1310
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:24,980
contracts will help us design for.

1311
02:03:25,700 --> 02:03:32,040
And if we don't, what's the consequence of saying that no, we're not going to do that?

1312
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:40,540
later has different options at their play. I mean, they've been wanting this. This is the only unsatisfactory dam in their entire portfolio.

1313
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:45,640
They can go all the way up to and including telling us to empty the entire reservoir.

1314
02:03:46,480 --> 02:03:56,000
And emptying the entire reservoir could result in some of the very fire risks that we're hearing nearby residents express concerns about.

1315
02:03:58,590 --> 02:04:07,170
Sorry, it has, so I think we want to separate the entire issue in regards to fire risk in regards to the level of the reservoir.

1316
02:04:07,710 --> 02:04:13,650
As it is right now, we have the capability to pull from the reservoirs.

1317
02:04:13,830 --> 02:04:21,970
And I'm going to have Chief Deputy Chief Breiner, he is here from the Fire Safety Fire Department, and he can help add any information onto that.

1318
02:04:21,970 --> 02:04:30,410
I do not believe that anything about the level of the dam impacts increases that fire risk.

1319
02:04:30,830 --> 02:04:33,570
But we can ask that question too. Would you like me to have them come up?

1320
02:04:33,890 --> 02:04:41,110
Well, yes, I think that's relevant. If a consequence of not performing the state mandate actions

1321
02:04:41,110 --> 02:04:50,450
were to be that the city had to empty Lake Hodges, would that create an additional fire risk?

1322
02:04:58,900 --> 02:04:59,840
Good afternoon.

1323
02:05:00,540 --> 02:05:02,560
Brent, Brent, Brent, here for assistant chief eddy.

1324
02:05:03,800 --> 02:05:04,520
That's a new fire risk.

1325
02:05:04,740 --> 02:05:09,540
We take all barriers of fire safety seriously, and we, from the, all the way from the border,

1326
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:14,740
all the way up to Lake Hodges, anywhere where there's any type of wildfire risk we take

1327
02:05:14,740 --> 02:05:15,400
very seriously.

1328
02:05:18,900 --> 02:05:24,960
So, I guess the question is in regards to specifically, if the dam was eliminated, that

1329
02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:29,620
removes one source of water in regards to pulling from, is that correct?

1330
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:35,640
our helicopters as far as so any of the dams or anything we pull we can pull from up

1331
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:40,620
to two feet of water. I just confirmed with my helicopter crew chief that's on duty

1332
02:05:40,620 --> 02:05:46,240
today. Our crews can pull from every different ponds, anything and then he is little as

1333
02:05:46,240 --> 02:05:53,880
two feet of water. Okay so that's I understand how you're hearing the question but let me

1334
02:05:53,880 --> 02:05:59,300
restate the question in in a different way. We're talking about approving these contracts

1335
02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:23,960
And I'm asking about the consequence of not approving them and you're saying that what are the consequences of not approving the contracts could be that and not conducting the state mandated actions of Lake Hodges Dam could be that the state could order Lake Hodges to be drained.

1336
02:06:24,500 --> 02:06:33,920
And my question is, if we were to drain like Hodges and leave that landscape, is that not

1337
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:35,920
fire fuel that would be dangerous?

1338
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:37,740
Maybe it's not, but that's my question.

1339
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:44,640
If anywhere where there's urban interface or any type of wildfire, brush or anything like that,

1340
02:06:45,100 --> 02:06:48,860
we're going to treat exactly the same, and we'll aggressively attack with all of our partner

1341
02:06:48,860 --> 02:06:52,920
agencies throughout the San Diego County, we'll have a joint unified response.

1342
02:06:53,500 --> 02:07:04,060
But I think in regards to your comment, in regards to, if we're trying to address, as it relates to fire safety, obviously also dams are also used as fire breaks too.

1343
02:07:05,060 --> 02:07:09,780
And so if there's no water in there, that is going to have a problem in regards to fire.

1344
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:16,080
As it is right now, whether or not it's 280 versus 295, those are different conversations.

1345
02:07:16,080 --> 02:07:20,500
But if you have nothing there, there's no dead pull, there's nothing there.

1346
02:07:20,820 --> 02:07:25,340
That's going to have impacts in regards to fire safety, yes.

1347
02:07:26,260 --> 02:07:30,640
It is, but that is why these dams, services, contracts are so important because if we're

1348
02:07:30,640 --> 02:07:35,220
trying to at least maintain what we have right now, then we want to do these contracts.

1349
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:36,980
Okay.

1350
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:38,220
Thank you.

1351
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:39,780
That concludes by questions.

1352
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:42,620
All right.

1353
02:07:42,700 --> 02:07:43,840
Thank you, Council Member Whitburne.

1354
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:45,580
We'll go next to Council Member Campbell.

1355
02:07:52,420 --> 02:07:54,900
I thank you very much for the presentation.

1356
02:07:55,860 --> 02:08:00,520
I think it's very important that we approve this, especially as is mandated by the state.

1357
02:08:01,180 --> 02:08:05,400
I wish that the state would pay for whatever it mandates, but it doesn't.

1358
02:08:06,160 --> 02:08:09,560
And so I will move the staff's recommendation.

1359
02:08:10,820 --> 02:08:11,860
Thank you.

1360
02:08:12,320 --> 02:08:13,580
All right, thank you, Council Member Campbell.

1361
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,580
So we do have a motion to move the staff's recommendation.

1362
02:08:16,580 --> 02:08:18,840
and we'll go next to Council Member Bonloper.

1363
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:21,360
Thank you.

1364
02:08:21,380 --> 02:08:23,520
Thank you for the presentation today.

1365
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:27,580
On our dance program and thank you for answering all the questions.

1366
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:30,480
I also want to thank Linda and friends of Lake Hodges.

1367
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:31,480
Everybody for being here.

1368
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:32,660
Thank you for coming down today.

1369
02:08:32,820 --> 02:08:34,560
And for being engaged with the whole process.

1370
02:08:35,700 --> 02:08:39,380
My incredible policy adviser AJ Baker has been a wonderful

1371
02:08:39,380 --> 02:08:43,000
and making sure that the community is involved in this discussion

1372
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:45,900
because as you said when the lake water diminishes

1373
02:08:45,900 --> 02:08:49,200
that leads to an explosion in a, in a,

1374
02:08:49,580 --> 02:08:50,800
of, growth of brush.

1375
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,120
And when I was a kid and you drove on the 15th

1376
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:54,340
freeway up to the North County fair,

1377
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:55,360
that's what I still call it.

1378
02:08:55,380 --> 02:08:57,960
You can see water on both sides of the 15th freeway.

1379
02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:00,460
And that's what we grew up with

1380
02:09:00,460 --> 02:09:01,740
and we were used to with Lake Hodges.

1381
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,760
I understand this dam was built before women

1382
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:06,120
had the right to vote in this country.

1383
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:08,580
I do understand how old this dam is.

1384
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,640
At the same time, we are now aware

1385
02:09:11,640 --> 02:09:15,440
that this is the most failing dam in the state

1386
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:24,020
California, and so we have to do something about this. My first question is, where is the county

1387
02:09:24,020 --> 02:09:31,020
water authority? Are they paying for any of this 75 million over 10 years? Are they going

1388
02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:37,880
to be contributing to the repair of Lake Hodges because this is half their asset? So two different

1389
02:09:37,880 --> 02:09:45,960
things. So if we're looking at any project that is for maintenance activities, it is

1390
02:09:45,960 --> 02:09:50,340
our belief at Lake Hodges. So remember the 75 million for each of these contracts is for

1391
02:09:50,340 --> 02:09:55,780
all of our entire dam portfolio. If it is associated with Hodges, they do have a cost share

1392
02:09:55,780 --> 02:10:02,320
measure. They are responsible for 50% of the cost. They have as a reminder, though, they

1393
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:08,880
have told us if it's the full replacement, they do not believe that they have our required

1394
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:12,220
to pay for that, and that is different than our understanding.

1395
02:10:13,940 --> 02:10:18,400
Okay, well, we'll get to their place in a second, but in terms of this item today to approve

1396
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:20,860
our rate payers will be paying for this.

1397
02:10:21,260 --> 02:10:31,340
Our rate payers, so in this specifically for this 75 million for these two contracts, if the

1398
02:10:31,340 --> 02:10:36,600
measures they would be paying their 50% of that. Yes. Okay, and the County Water Authority

1399
02:10:36,600 --> 02:10:41,300
has agreed to do this? Are they protesting this or? It is not under standing that they

1400
02:10:41,300 --> 02:10:45,960
would be protesting that. They would only be protesting the full replacement is our understanding.

1401
02:10:49,270 --> 02:10:54,130
Okay, I'll get to the full replacement in a second. But in terms of the current state of the

1402
02:10:54,130 --> 02:10:59,690
dam right now, the city has been doing repairs on Lake Hodges because we've been ordered to.

1403
02:10:59,690 --> 02:11:02,890
So has the county ward authority paid their fair share of those repairs?

1404
02:11:04,170 --> 02:11:04,610
Yes.

1405
02:11:05,670 --> 02:11:06,630
And how much are they paid?

1406
02:11:09,590 --> 02:11:13,630
I would have to get back to you in regards to that one.

1407
02:11:13,990 --> 02:11:15,310
I have to get back to you.

1408
02:11:15,610 --> 02:11:17,770
But they have been paying their 50% of all of ours.

1409
02:11:18,350 --> 02:11:18,550
Okay.

1410
02:11:19,630 --> 02:11:23,690
I would love to know how much they have been contributing going forward.

1411
02:11:24,470 --> 02:11:30,910
So if they're paying half of the bill and we are currently being ordered to do mandated repairs

1412
02:11:30,910 --> 02:11:36,990
by the State Department of the MCC. Why is it taking so long? We were supposed to get back

1413
02:11:36,990 --> 02:11:41,530
the options from the geotechnical scientists this summer and now it's pushed back to December

1414
02:11:41,530 --> 02:11:48,410
of 2026. Is that correct? Yes, we're expecting it by December of 2026. Yes. But we were

1415
02:11:48,410 --> 02:11:53,730
expecting it this summer. Yeah, Kelly, if you want to add anything in regards to Kelly or Tiffany,

1416
02:11:53,770 --> 02:12:00,670
if you want to add anything in regards to the timeline. Yeah. Thank you. So there's a number of

1417
02:12:00,670 --> 02:12:07,350
medical analyses that we must complete to come to a recommendation for an alternative to full

1418
02:12:07,350 --> 02:12:14,170
dam replacement for Hodges, and those technical analyses take some time, so we do expect

1419
02:12:14,170 --> 02:12:20,030
that we're going to need more time, so the end of the year is when we expect to have a recommendation

1420
02:12:20,030 --> 02:12:25,330
on what we're doing with Hodges in the long term. Okay, here we are. It was an outside contractor

1421
02:12:25,330 --> 02:12:30,570
to do this recommendation for us. Yes, we currently have GEI doing the alternatives analysis

1422
02:12:30,570 --> 02:12:31,570
for us.

1423
02:12:33,070 --> 02:12:38,930
Oh, so then I'd like an explanation from them also why this is taking so long.

1424
02:12:39,090 --> 02:12:40,050
Are they not working on it?

1425
02:12:40,050 --> 02:12:40,990
Do they have other projects?

1426
02:12:41,230 --> 02:12:45,550
I mean, this is the highest rated failure safety dam in the state of California.

1427
02:12:46,370 --> 02:12:53,090
And they have been working on it in regards to some of the issues that, so every time that

1428
02:12:53,090 --> 02:12:59,470
we have to do anything in regards to Hodges, we want to make sure we're doing our entirely

1429
02:12:59,470 --> 02:13:06,110
do diligence. The status one of the assessments they do is on the concrete itself. Can it

1430
02:13:06,110 --> 02:13:10,130
withstand whatever recommendations that we're doing? So then there's different modeling

1431
02:13:10,130 --> 02:13:15,050
on that. I think the expectation was that we went with a shorter timeline because we're

1432
02:13:15,050 --> 02:13:19,350
trying to push through and then each thing we're trying to identify does take us a little bit

1433
02:13:19,350 --> 02:13:23,170
longer and we want to make sure we've done all of our Duke diligence so that way when we get

1434
02:13:23,170 --> 02:13:27,530
into design and construction we don't identify things that pushed that timeline around.

1435
02:13:29,130 --> 02:13:34,670
Okay, I have a request for next time we hear a dance update at ATI or I think can we bring

1436
02:13:34,670 --> 02:13:36,270
the engineer as well?

1437
02:13:37,310 --> 02:13:42,110
We're paying them, they should be here answering our questions about what's going on with

1438
02:13:42,110 --> 02:13:42,650
the dam.

1439
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:50,540
I was also asking a lot of questions about how we're communicating with our residents at the

1440
02:13:50,540 --> 02:13:53,920
committee, because the fire increased fire risk is real.

1441
02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:57,640
Chief Eddie, who I know can't be here today, actually lived in the community.

1442
02:13:58,160 --> 02:14:03,020
And we received over a million dollar grant from the State of California from a assembly

1443
02:14:03,020 --> 02:14:07,240
number-darship, a tells office, because the increased fire threat, because of the

1444
02:14:07,240 --> 02:14:13,240
brush growth when the water went down, has exponentially increased fire concern in a community.

1445
02:14:13,440 --> 02:14:14,620
They already lost their homes.

1446
02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:16,720
And this is not a theoretical concern.

1447
02:14:16,780 --> 02:14:18,820
This was where the rich creek fire went through.

1448
02:14:19,420 --> 02:14:22,720
And so you're hearing from people who've watched their homes burn before.

1449
02:14:24,140 --> 02:14:29,780
And so my question is, if the Department of AMCG is not going to allow us to raise the water level,

1450
02:14:29,900 --> 02:14:34,760
which would then flood some of the brush, what is our plan going to be going forward?

1451
02:14:34,780 --> 02:14:38,900
I know we have the $1 million grant this year to do extensive rush management and get some of the

1452
02:14:38,900 --> 02:14:42,900
unnatal plans out of the area, but what about next year or the year after?

1453
02:14:43,340 --> 02:14:48,100
And so, you know, deputy chief, I know this is you just had to fill in today since chief Eddie is not available.

1454
02:14:48,100 --> 02:14:53,640
But my question for the fire department is going forward, can we have more involved conversations

1455
02:14:53,640 --> 02:14:58,480
with the community about what to do about this increased pressure management issues?

1456
02:15:02,380 --> 02:15:09,120
Yes, we could do that. I can, again, touch with Chief Taska to talk about the brush management area, and we can be back.

1457
02:15:09,400 --> 02:15:19,160
Okay. Thank you. And I know that, you know, we're currently waiting on our second wildfire helicopter to get a new part in which takes an abominally long amount of time.

1458
02:15:19,680 --> 02:15:25,800
But are we able to get a, you know, the firehawk up there, copper three, if we need to delay causes at this point?

1459
02:15:26,580 --> 02:15:27,020
Okay.

1460
02:15:27,020 --> 02:15:27,800
3 is in service.

1461
02:15:27,940 --> 02:15:29,420
Top 3 is in service today.

1462
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:29,860
Okay.

1463
02:15:30,260 --> 02:15:30,940
Got it.

1464
02:15:30,980 --> 02:15:34,200
And then Cal Fire is able to bring fixed wing in on a more regular basis.

1465
02:15:34,380 --> 02:15:37,000
I mean, we are much more prepared than we were in 2007, correct?

1466
02:15:37,260 --> 02:15:37,600
Absolutely.

1467
02:15:41,460 --> 02:15:46,860
Our coordination between Cal Fire, all of our partners, between us, Candido, Rage Sanfe, and all

1468
02:15:46,860 --> 02:15:51,120
the surrounding jurisdictions has never been better right now.

1469
02:15:51,400 --> 02:15:55,340
Cal Fire, as the incident commander, we're call for fixed wing air package.

1470
02:15:55,340 --> 02:16:02,460
We could bring it in and I could keep bringing in as many resources as necessary to mitigate any incident as possible that we face.

1471
02:16:02,760 --> 02:16:06,360
Okay, and calfired their planes can dip in Lake Hodges too, correct?

1472
02:16:06,940 --> 02:16:10,520
I'm not, I don't have it yet. I'm not aware of any capabilities of that.

1473
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:12,600
Got it. I could find out for a week back too.

1474
02:16:12,860 --> 02:16:23,600
Okay, thank you. I think we just need to have a better conversation with the community members about this because it is alarming to see the exponential growth in brush, which is a result of the lake lowering.

1475
02:16:24,660 --> 02:16:29,440
So, thank you, and thank you for filling in for Chief Eddie, I appreciate you being here today.

1476
02:16:30,240 --> 02:16:34,660
I, so I have one more question about communication with our office and our residents.

1477
02:16:36,220 --> 02:16:41,680
I've been asking for the city in an apartment of dam safety to have a meaningful conversation

1478
02:16:41,680 --> 02:16:43,680
about whether we can raise the water level.

1479
02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:49,520
Because we now know that we're not going to be able to replace this dam as quickly as we wanted to,

1480
02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:53,760
because the County Water Authority has unilaterally decided they do not have to share the cost

1481
02:16:53,760 --> 02:17:01,100
anymore. One, I hope we're getting a legal opinion on that. Okay. All right, thank you.

1482
02:17:01,700 --> 02:17:08,040
We should be getting legal opinion on that. Second, our constituents have been rightly asking

1483
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:12,920
what we're going to do about this in the meantime. And so I wrote a letter last July to the Secretary

1484
02:17:13,380 --> 02:17:19,040
of the California Natural Resources Agency Secretary Crawford asking for DSOD to work with

1485
02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:24,620
how far to determine if the risk of the dam breaking is greater at this point to

1486
02:17:24,620 --> 02:17:28,920
life and safety of the risk of a wildfire resulting because of the lower water levels.

1487
02:17:29,660 --> 02:17:33,040
And nobody has answered my question, I have asked our state assembly members, our state

1488
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:33,520
senators.

1489
02:17:36,440 --> 02:17:43,840
And in this morning, we received an email that my office was not included on from a gentleman

1490
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:48,340
who is the Public Affairs California Department of Water Resources, Public Affairs

1491
02:17:48,340 --> 02:17:56,520
and which he has been explaining to constituents that this dam is so dangerous that not only

1492
02:17:56,520 --> 02:18:01,320
are we required to lower the water level at because of a seismic event, because of an earthquake.

1493
02:18:03,060 --> 02:18:08,060
But in 2023, it was discovered that the concrete deterioration has progressed to such a state that

1494
02:18:08,060 --> 02:18:12,220
the Department of Dam Safety has determined that the dam to be an unacceptable condition that could lead

1495
02:18:12,220 --> 02:18:16,300
to failure under normal or static conditions, meaning right now that the dam could fail.

1496
02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:20,660
And Councilover Campio's office was CCD on the Z-mail, but my office was not.

1497
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:26,560
And so I'm just asking, I have been begging this department to give communication to

1498
02:18:26,560 --> 02:18:29,800
me and my residents who come all the way down here.

1499
02:18:30,180 --> 02:18:33,060
And why can I not simply be CCD on an email?

1500
02:18:33,500 --> 02:18:36,100
I just, we were very frustrated.

1501
02:18:38,660 --> 02:18:42,740
One group, I'll be able to tell this director, Councilmember von Wohlberg, I just want to apologize

1502
02:18:42,740 --> 02:18:45,400
to you for not including you on those conversations earlier.

1503
02:18:45,400 --> 02:18:50,140
There's a request from D7 and we're being responsive and meeting with that constituent.

1504
02:18:50,380 --> 02:18:55,000
They followed up a few times and then DWR got back to them about two weeks ago and we

1505
02:18:55,000 --> 02:18:56,100
just got that to you today.

1506
02:18:56,860 --> 02:19:00,980
So, I think it's a helpful reminder that if there are inquiries that come from other

1507
02:19:00,980 --> 02:19:06,620
council districts, that we include the council district where the concerns blocated, in

1508
02:19:06,620 --> 02:19:11,480
this case, Hodges will make sure to keep you updated on any communications related to Hodges

1509
02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:12,940
for all of these.

1510
02:19:16,300 --> 02:19:17,260
Thank you.

1511
02:19:17,820 --> 02:19:19,220
I appreciate that commitment.

1512
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:24,540
I am also wondering when we're going to have a newly updated Hodges and Revive's Award

1513
02:19:24,540 --> 02:19:26,880
Dam, frequently asked questions.

1514
02:19:27,340 --> 02:19:30,940
Given this new information at the Department of Dam safety, things this Dam is so unsafe

1515
02:19:31,640 --> 02:19:37,460
that at any moment it could experience a structural collapse that we can't raise the water level.

1516
02:19:37,480 --> 02:19:41,920
If that is the case and he put it in writing here, when are we going to update it on our own website?

1517
02:19:41,920 --> 02:19:46,840
I'll have Alie, Berencher, Deputy Director of External Affairs answer that.

1518
02:19:47,220 --> 02:19:51,460
Yeah, thank you, Council Member, that FAQs in the process of being completely updated and we'll

1519
02:19:51,460 --> 02:19:56,400
ensure that update is finalized with DSOD's perspective as well, and it should be uploaded

1520
02:19:56,400 --> 02:19:58,200
to our website, within the near future.

1521
02:20:00,160 --> 02:20:02,420
Will you let us know when that's done, please?

1522
02:20:02,660 --> 02:20:02,920
Of course.

1523
02:20:04,660 --> 02:20:09,680
And I want to thank the residents who have been consistently arguing this point and particularly

1524
02:20:09,680 --> 02:20:16,160
this point because you were able to get answers quicker than sometimes we get to unfortunately

1525
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:25,250
here at the city so okay well I appreciate the commitment to getting more better communication

1526
02:20:25,250 --> 02:20:33,110
with our office my last question is I agree with Rhonda's recommendation that since this

1527
02:20:33,110 --> 02:20:38,170
is the worst day I'm in the whole state of California why are we not putting all the pressure on

1528
02:20:38,870 --> 02:20:43,370
we're going to prove this $150 million for all that he has in San Diego.

1529
02:20:43,970 --> 02:20:45,190
Lake Hodges needs the most attention.

1530
02:20:45,450 --> 02:20:47,090
So why can't we focus on this one first?

1531
02:20:48,930 --> 02:20:52,610
So I'll go back in regards to the most important thing is making sure

1532
02:20:52,610 --> 02:20:56,590
because we've lost 50% of the person who's going to find it.

1533
02:20:56,970 --> 02:20:57,810
We got estimates.

1534
02:20:57,890 --> 02:21:01,990
We are originally looking at $275 million replace this dam.

1535
02:21:03,070 --> 02:21:06,730
The estimates now are between $500 and $700 million.

1536
02:21:06,730 --> 02:21:12,850
dollars. That would mean the city would be responsible. We would lost 50% of our funding for

1537
02:21:12,850 --> 02:21:18,310
that. So that increases the liability and the cost to actually do the work on the city

1538
02:21:18,310 --> 02:21:25,750
of San Diego residents. And so we're trying to right now identify all options available to

1539
02:21:25,750 --> 02:21:31,990
us in regards to what is the best use of all rate payer funds. Because we do not have unlimited

1540
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:39,050
funds. Our existing right now, we don't even have the rates to do that replacement right now.

1541
02:21:39,310 --> 02:21:45,650
So that would also require future increase rates. And so we want to make sure and come back,

1542
02:21:45,790 --> 02:21:50,910
and make sure we've identified that option that gets us addresses the concerns in regards

1543
02:21:50,910 --> 02:21:56,390
to the safety of that dam, but also looks at the affordability that we're looking at. And that's

1544
02:21:56,390 --> 02:22:02,510
So we chose to do that risk, alternative analysis and coming back with also interim risk

1545
02:22:02,510 --> 02:22:03,430
reduction measures.

1546
02:22:07,260 --> 02:22:07,680
Okay.

1547
02:22:08,040 --> 02:22:08,660
Which I appreciate.

1548
02:22:08,780 --> 02:22:09,220
My question.

1549
02:22:09,360 --> 02:22:10,320
I guess still is.

1550
02:22:10,340 --> 02:22:13,260
Are we going to direct most of these resources immediately to Lake Hodges?

1551
02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:15,320
Hodges is the number one priority.

1552
02:22:16,620 --> 02:22:16,640
Okay.

1553
02:22:17,460 --> 02:22:17,720
All right.

1554
02:22:17,860 --> 02:22:19,300
Thank you.

1555
02:22:19,300 --> 02:22:20,840
Well, thank you for answering the questions.

1556
02:22:21,300 --> 02:22:24,320
Thank you for the commitment to communicate better with us going forward.

1557
02:22:25,500 --> 02:22:26,900
You know, we work well with our state partners.

1558
02:22:27,040 --> 02:22:28,220
That's how we got the million dollars.

1559
02:22:28,220 --> 02:22:32,420
with assembly of the hotel is because when constituents come to us, we can ask, but if we don't

1560
02:22:32,420 --> 02:22:34,900
get this information, I can't act on it.

1561
02:22:36,320 --> 02:22:40,260
So given the commitments that you will work with our communities better and get us more

1562
02:22:40,260 --> 02:22:45,120
answers, and we will be focusing the efforts immediately on the causes if we approve this

1563
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:45,680
today.

1564
02:22:46,660 --> 02:22:52,000
I'll prove the item, but we will continue to follow up to make sure that these commitments

1565
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:55,960
are actually followed through, so the community can feel safer and that we all can be more

1566
02:22:55,960 --> 02:22:58,000
where we're going to do with this very precious resource

1567
02:22:58,000 --> 02:22:59,580
that we've all counted out for a long time.

1568
02:23:00,040 --> 02:23:01,320
So thank you very much.

1569
02:23:02,040 --> 02:23:03,440
Thank you, Councillor Valleable, Pert.

1570
02:23:03,580 --> 02:23:05,280
I think you said you would vote to approve it.

1571
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:06,520
You didn't actually second it,

1572
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:08,720
though.

1573
02:23:10,540 --> 02:23:14,320
I'll jump in there and second it before I go to Council Member Foster

1574
02:23:14,320 --> 02:23:17,260
offer a few thoughts, because I want to clarify some of the things

1575
02:23:17,260 --> 02:23:19,000
that we've been talking about.

1576
02:23:19,700 --> 02:23:23,420
One, thank you for coming down and taking the time

1577
02:23:23,420 --> 02:23:24,240
to testify.

1578
02:23:24,240 --> 02:23:33,900
There isn't anything more scary than the possibility of changes that could potentially threaten

1579
02:23:33,900 --> 02:23:34,600
their homes.

1580
02:23:35,100 --> 02:23:39,780
You know, I'm old enough to remember when living next to open space and wildlands actually

1581
02:23:39,780 --> 02:23:47,220
was an asset given as many people describe the changes in our environment and the risk

1582
02:23:47,220 --> 02:23:51,860
of wildfire has certainly turned people's attention in a different direction.

1583
02:23:52,580 --> 02:24:00,740
Most of my district district one, used to enjoy the quality of life by being separated by

1584
02:24:00,740 --> 02:24:06,940
major pieces of open space and what are they faced today, difficulty getting insurance.

1585
02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:13,320
The state introducing zone zero, which is going to require everybody, a sense almost everybody

1586
02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:16,980
in the city to actually clear everything within five feet.

1587
02:24:16,980 --> 02:24:24,220
circumstances of different change and sadly it takes dramatic incidents to actually force us to change.

1588
02:24:26,240 --> 02:24:36,720
And I do want to emphasize the world changed with the Auroville Dam and change division of Dam safety and how they looked at things for better or for worse.

1589
02:24:36,720 --> 02:24:45,360
So, I appreciate the pivot, as Council member of Alma Wilpert and the public mentioned, I am a civil engineer, so I paid a little bit extra attention.

1590
02:24:46,040 --> 02:24:57,300
And I want to remind that we did do upwards $10 million worth of repairs at Lake Hodges, a pretty extraordinary innovative approaches to try to stabilize the dam.

1591
02:24:57,300 --> 02:25:05,760
And I can remember we actually began a pace to actually start thinking about a new dam there.

1592
02:25:06,520 --> 02:25:12,500
I don't know how far we got, but we certainly got slammed when the county water authorities said,

1593
02:25:13,660 --> 02:25:16,420
Yeah, we don't care about the hydroelectric capacity there.

1594
02:25:16,440 --> 02:25:18,940
We don't care about the water storage there.

1595
02:25:18,960 --> 02:25:22,600
We're not interested in being your 50% partner.

1596
02:25:23,500 --> 02:25:25,060
And that changed the landscape.

1597
02:25:25,960 --> 02:25:31,140
I want to re-emphasize a question, I think Council Member Vaughn Wolper raised, but there's nothing

1598
02:25:31,140 --> 02:25:35,360
in the action today that actually precludes what we might do at Lake Hodges.

1599
02:25:35,960 --> 02:25:36,460
Is that correct?

1600
02:25:36,800 --> 02:25:37,160
Correct.

1601
02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:43,120
Okay, so I wanted to make sure that we weren't doing anything in that regard.

1602
02:25:44,580 --> 02:25:48,020
And I also don't want to forget about the larger picture that we're talking about, that we first

1603
02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:59,280
the city, again given the 2021 action, actually took a look at the entirety of our system of

1604
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:04,180
water storage, which is our water storage. It doesn't belong to the county water

1605
02:26:04,180 --> 02:26:15,180
authority, it's ours. And it does, typically we talk about it as 10% of our water

1606
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:20,060
and more importantly, the cost of $400 an acre foot.

1607
02:26:20,240 --> 02:26:21,480
That's supposed to $2,600.

1608
02:26:22,340 --> 02:26:23,980
And anybody who thinks about privatizing,

1609
02:26:24,380 --> 02:26:26,140
the most expensive water in San New County

1610
02:26:26,140 --> 02:26:28,720
is a private decalemization plant.

1611
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:31,820
So I'm not interested in going in that direction,

1612
02:26:32,860 --> 02:26:35,160
but everything that we need to do to make sure

1613
02:26:35,160 --> 02:26:38,300
that that local water continues to function

1614
02:26:38,300 --> 02:26:42,960
in a very efficient manner and keeps the rates down.

1615
02:26:42,960 --> 02:27:02,920
So, I appreciate that, even though this is a tenure contract that you're asking, that you will come back to us yearly, and let us know the progress clearly after GEI completes its assessment of Lake Hodges and the options coming back to ATI or Environment Committee, whatever makes sense best.

1616
02:27:03,500 --> 02:27:08,820
I do feel inclined because I've heard it more than once about joyous slake, it's not part

1617
02:27:08,820 --> 02:27:14,540
of our water storage, it's not part of our system there, it is a dam, all dams always

1618
02:27:14,540 --> 02:27:16,480
have that risk of breaking.

1619
02:27:17,160 --> 02:27:20,640
How do we, it's not PUD, as I assume, it's park and wreck?

1620
02:27:21,900 --> 02:27:26,560
Yes, that is correct, but we are in coordination because we do kind of have the expertise in regards

1621
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:30,520
to doing the condition assessments, we are coordinating with park and wreck to give them

1622
02:27:30,520 --> 02:27:36,300
information. It is a satisfied three-dam at this point in time, which is within DSODs. That's

1623
02:27:36,300 --> 02:27:42,140
their highest rating. So, but we do have it identified and preparing the information that

1624
02:27:42,140 --> 02:27:46,920
is needed so that any future actions can be done. But that would be at the expense of from the

1625
02:27:46,920 --> 02:27:53,420
general fund. Okay. I don't want to put any undue pressure in under our colleagues, but we do have

1626
02:27:53,420 --> 02:28:00,500
ten members of the County Water Authority Board of Directors there. If I think it's a pretty

1627
02:28:00,500 --> 02:28:05,760
to pony up that kind of dollars where they may not see the benefit to the county water

1628
02:28:05,760 --> 02:28:13,100
authorities, entire vision of an area of responsibility, so I don't really hold much hope

1629
02:28:13,100 --> 02:28:18,400
there no matter what the city can or able to do at the board level going forward.

1630
02:28:19,860 --> 02:28:26,460
But again, I also don't want to lose the incredible pivot that PUD went through in the past

1631
02:28:26,460 --> 02:28:34,120
five years going forward, and you responded to one division of dam safety, said new rules

1632
02:28:34,120 --> 02:28:40,500
are in place. You jumped on every requirement and then when county water authorities said,

1633
02:28:40,500 --> 02:28:45,580
again, slammed it over on us, that you pivoted again, and that's an extraordinary amount

1634
02:28:45,580 --> 02:28:52,100
of work of something that is not part of our data they work. So, it's very much appreciated. I appreciate

1635
02:28:52,100 --> 02:28:57,760
Mr. McFadden, being here in participating this is the Chief Infrastructure Services, I think.

1636
02:28:59,080 --> 02:29:04,400
So with that, I'll close my comments, my colleagues have some comments as well, but I will

1637
02:29:04,400 --> 02:29:05,040
second the motion.

1638
02:29:05,300 --> 02:29:10,120
So we do have a motion by Council Member Campbell and a second by Council President Lekova

1639
02:29:10,120 --> 02:29:12,240
to second the motion on the floor.

1640
02:29:12,900 --> 02:29:15,160
And with that, we'll go next to Council Member Foster.

1641
02:29:16,120 --> 02:29:16,760
Thank you, Chair.

1642
02:29:17,380 --> 02:29:18,460
And thank you for the presentation.

1643
02:29:18,460 --> 02:29:26,040
and we did hear this previously, I did, and continue to have some concerns, but listening

1644
02:29:26,040 --> 02:29:33,640
to the conversation today, we have this action that's before us today, but you mentioned

1645
02:29:33,640 --> 02:29:37,080
the program, there's another contract that we have programmatic contract where they're doing

1646
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:48,440
analysis to look at potions and how we are going to approach the very damn we are

1647
02:29:48,440 --> 02:29:50,280
standing a work that's being done.

1648
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:55,200
Can you help me to understand why we are taking this action today?

1649
02:29:57,450 --> 02:29:57,890
Absolutely.

1650
02:29:58,350 --> 02:29:59,950
It's a great question in regards to-

1651
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:12,040
We do have regulatory deadlines that we must address right now. We cannot wait to have every analysis that the team went through to have that all done before we move.

1652
02:30:12,040 --> 02:30:27,900
We have definitely some priorities, just like Hodges, Barrett, O tie, Murray, Damp, we have other commitments and other requirements that are do, and so we need to move forward in having that design work and keep maintaining that.

1653
02:30:28,160 --> 02:30:33,340
As we continue in a parallel path on the entire overall programmatic analysis.

1654
02:30:33,340 --> 02:30:39,300
And so do we not have any, do we not have another contractor in a existing contractor to expire?

1655
02:30:39,860 --> 02:30:44,940
What is the, how are we taking care of these regulatory requirements prior to this item?

1656
02:30:45,380 --> 02:30:46,660
In regards to, yeah.

1657
02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:50,400
So a lot of them didn't require some of them didn't require design.

1658
02:30:51,140 --> 02:30:58,920
We're moving into more major maintenance as it relates to design that we will need design expertise on this.

1659
02:30:59,600 --> 02:31:02,020
And so, and then I'll have Kelly add anything else.

1660
02:31:02,020 --> 02:31:08,180
So, we have contracts at engineering and capital projects department, so they issued three

1661
02:31:08,180 --> 02:31:12,240
as needed contracts to assist with some near-term repair projects and do design.

1662
02:31:12,800 --> 02:31:15,760
Those contracts are nearing completion and capacity.

1663
02:31:16,360 --> 02:31:21,660
So, we no longer have the ability to issue work for new repair projects and help the need

1664
02:31:21,660 --> 02:31:22,320
for these.

1665
02:31:22,660 --> 02:31:29,320
And how much were those contracts that we had at the same concept, what was the capacity

1666
02:31:29,320 --> 02:31:30,500
in time line on these?

1667
02:31:30,500 --> 02:31:36,360
Yeah, so for each one it was a five year duration they were as needed and they were each approximately

1668
02:31:36,360 --> 02:31:40,340
7 million so 21 million dollars total for all the as needed.

1669
02:31:41,620 --> 02:31:43,060
Okay, and then with this.

1670
02:31:44,180 --> 02:31:51,740
With this contract, what is the maximum, I guess, authority or capacity of a task order?

1671
02:31:57,420 --> 02:32:00,660
The task orders are not limited and dollar value.

1672
02:32:00,660 --> 02:32:04,860
I'm asking with the mayors of the, what is the mayoral authority for a task order?

1673
02:32:05,720 --> 02:32:13,240
Based on my comments at ATI, I had concerns on one commitment, right, how are you going

1674
02:32:13,240 --> 02:32:17,160
to break down some contracts and things like that if I remember the conversation, right?

1675
02:32:17,200 --> 02:32:20,320
There'd be determined later as we go through actual task order process.

1676
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:22,980
My question is, what is the mayors authority?

1677
02:32:23,580 --> 02:32:27,420
I'm trying to understand what we will see coming back and what we will not.

1678
02:32:27,420 --> 02:32:35,180
Within those 75 million dollars, it is within the mayor's authority up to 75 million dollars

1679
02:32:35,180 --> 02:32:37,060
within the term of the contract.

1680
02:32:39,340 --> 02:32:44,640
But getting coming back, we can come back each year in regards to our update.

1681
02:32:47,390 --> 02:32:48,210
Is that accurate?

1682
02:32:48,590 --> 02:32:57,010
I believe there's a limit on each task order regarding the attorney's council approval.

1683
02:32:57,010 --> 02:33:04,470
I've found you two WD-3 attorney there is no limit on tasks for as needed consultant contracts.

1684
02:33:06,230 --> 02:33:17,810
So essentially we're issuing 75 million dollars of capacity to the mayor and not one item will come back to us in the ten year process for additional authority.

1685
02:33:18,910 --> 02:33:19,790
Is that what I'm understanding?

1686
02:33:21,260 --> 02:33:28,180
Bonnie, can you clarify if task orders are capital funded if that would trigger an additional approval?

1687
02:33:31,780 --> 02:33:36,920
There is no cap on task for as needed consultant contracts.

1688
02:33:37,880 --> 02:33:45,800
There's no limit within the municipal code for this type of contract.

1689
02:33:57,450 --> 02:33:59,670
They're talking when you see if they're going to add something.

1690
02:33:59,670 --> 02:34:04,470
Councilmember, I would just offer that we couldn't issue a task today to the total to the

1691
02:34:04,470 --> 02:34:08,790
tune of $75 million, because that is not what's included in the race that you all approved

1692
02:34:08,790 --> 02:34:14,810
this past fall. That's also not included in our five-year or budget, that the full amount in

1693
02:34:14,810 --> 02:34:21,510
year one. So that's where we noted that every opportunity that we will be coming back for every annual

1694
02:34:21,510 --> 02:34:27,370
DM safety update with an update on this program, but also in every five-year outlook, every budget,

1695
02:34:27,370 --> 02:34:38,370
And every great case we have moving forward, there will be additional information on the plan spend for these contracts included within our dam safety program line items.

1696
02:34:40,400 --> 02:34:42,640
Purchasing and contracting on the call.

1697
02:34:43,420 --> 02:34:52,140
I just want to make sure I understand this. I didn't realize that consulted contracts did not come with a limit attached to the task orders.

1698
02:34:53,580 --> 02:34:55,240
Yes, PNC is online.

1699
02:34:56,340 --> 02:35:07,720
Yeah. Good afternoon. Councilmember Foster. That is correctly. As we look at municipal code, there are no limits for task orders under as needed contracts.

1700
02:35:10,200 --> 02:35:13,840
Okay, so how much do we have budgeted for this.

1701
02:35:13,940 --> 02:35:19,480
Psycho was a budget impact or any rate. I'm assuming what we have is included in the rates and we're not going.

1702
02:35:19,480 --> 02:35:22,700
Would I just say we're not going to go over that.

1703
02:35:22,700 --> 02:35:30,520
Correct. The amount is currently within this fiscal year as identified in a rate case and also with our five-year

1704
02:35:31,860 --> 02:35:33,220
Okay, all right

1705
02:35:35,660 --> 02:35:36,620
Thank you

1706
02:35:36,620 --> 02:35:42,600
All right, thank you council member foster for your questions. We'll go next the council president program. We think that's president

1707
02:35:42,600 --> 02:35:47,960
We had a pretty extensive discussion of this in a ti so I think for me just summarizing and we're camping it

1708
02:35:47,960 --> 02:35:53,660
quickly as perhaps helpful. I think everyone in the room understands the significant need

1709
02:35:53,660 --> 02:35:59,860
for many of our dams, especially for like lodges. We already, as the Council had initiated,

1710
02:36:00,060 --> 02:36:05,040
funding for the study of the conditions of the dams. And then the next step, frankly,

1711
02:36:05,100 --> 02:36:10,840
is to have this contract in place to allow for funding to ensure that design, the design phase

1712
02:36:10,840 --> 02:36:16,580
for any future projects can occur. And I know this is under a tenure period. I feel comfortable

1713
02:36:16,580 --> 02:36:21,840
with the budget authority piece being where we, the Council is going to have some ability to

1714
02:36:21,840 --> 02:36:26,620
annually in terms of determining what's actually implemented within the budget or authorised

1715
02:36:26,620 --> 02:36:33,400
within the budget for projects, and so that it's not all just going to be spent. But I presume

1716
02:36:33,400 --> 02:36:39,860
that without this we wouldn't be able to address any of the identified potential repairs, replacement,

1717
02:36:41,260 --> 02:36:45,100
water levels, as I have been requested by the Department of Safety of Dance.

1718
02:36:45,800 --> 02:36:53,140
That is correct. I mean, we have already have identified projects right now at Lower O tie at Murray at Barrett.

1719
02:36:53,260 --> 02:36:59,040
Risk reduction measures at Hodges. All of those wouldn't be able to be completed without these contracts.

1720
02:37:00,300 --> 02:37:02,620
Thank you. Well, with that, Councillor Sain, I'm happy to support that.

1721
02:37:02,900 --> 02:37:05,060
And look forward to the work continue.

1722
02:37:06,440 --> 02:37:09,720
All right. Thank you, Councillor President. Perth, Emily. I don't see any else in the lights.

1723
02:37:10,140 --> 02:37:13,040
Let me ask one last question. This is just a design.

1724
02:37:13,040 --> 02:37:19,600
So, when you identify construction contracts, those will come back, because I suspect it will be quite sizable.

1725
02:37:21,100 --> 02:37:23,540
Okay, just one. One of the doubles checkup on that.

1726
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:26,160
Okay, we have a motion by Council Member Campbell.

1727
02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:28,600
Second by myself to move the staff recommendation.

1728
02:37:29,420 --> 02:37:30,640
Clerk, please call the roll.

1729
02:37:31,060 --> 02:37:32,960
I'm sorry, the voting system, please cast your vote.

1730
02:37:39,540 --> 02:37:42,400
That passes unanimously. Sorry, that does not pass unanimously.

1731
02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:44,420
That passes seven to one.

1732
02:37:44,420 --> 02:37:48,960
with Councilmember Foster voting no and Councilmember Campio absent.

1733
02:37:49,280 --> 02:37:50,020
Thank you, Council President.

1734
02:37:50,900 --> 02:37:54,420
All right, thank you to my Council colleagues for all the questions and comments.

1735
02:37:54,620 --> 02:38:00,740
Thank you to the good folks of PUD for putting this together and answering all the questions.

1736
02:38:00,980 --> 02:38:06,100
And of course, gentlemen from Fire Rescue for showing up as well.

1737
02:38:06,640 --> 02:38:09,400
So with that, clerk, please introduce item 203.

1738
02:38:09,520 --> 02:38:13,740
Item 203 is the naming of an existing alley in the Cabrillo Heights neighborhood within the

1739
02:38:13,740 --> 02:38:22,860
a community plan area, it tied way PRJ-1130276. If you'd like to speak to this item, please be

1740
02:38:22,860 --> 02:38:27,980
sure to submit your speakership to the front of the room into the clear box. And if you are

1741
02:38:27,980 --> 02:38:32,920
participating remotely, now's the time to raise your hand by pressing star 9 or the raise your

1742
02:38:32,920 --> 02:38:39,240
hand icon. Thank you, Council President. All right. Thank you. I see staff is settling in. Please

1743
02:38:39,240 --> 02:38:44,360
introduce yourselves for the record and let us know how much time you need for your presentation.

1744
02:38:55,230 --> 02:38:59,350
Good afternoon, Council President LaCaba and Council Members. My name is Daniel Neri,

1745
02:38:59,770 --> 02:39:04,830
Development Project Manager with Development Services and joining me today is Senior Lands

1746
02:39:04,830 --> 02:39:10,370
Survey or Greg Jeffries and Lands Survey or Assistant Michael Bocaud. I will need approximately

1747
02:39:10,370 --> 02:39:13,490
three minutes for today's presentation. All right, begin when you're ready.

1748
02:39:23,340 --> 02:39:23,600
Okay.

1749
02:39:25,080 --> 02:39:33,380
Item number 203 on today's docket is project number PRJ 1130276 for the naming of an existing

1750
02:39:33,380 --> 02:39:39,300
alley in the Cabrio Heights neighborhood within the Ceramesa community plant area, E-Ti-Way.

1751
02:39:42,330 --> 02:39:47,690
The item before you today proposes the naming of an existing unnamed public ride of way,

1752
02:39:47,690 --> 02:39:56,290
to e-tieway, this street name change was brought forth by petition from all affected property owners and tenants

1753
02:39:56,290 --> 02:40:03,090
fronting the subject property in accordance with San Diego Municipal Code 1-251-20B.

1754
02:40:04,290 --> 02:40:12,010
Although the Municipal Code allows for a process one decision for petitions containing signatures indicating 100% support,

1755
02:40:12,010 --> 02:40:20,590
The item before you requires a process 5 decision by city council because the circulated petition received less than 100% support.

1756
02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:27,430
Our recommendation from the Planning Commission is not required for this action for the San Diego Municipal Code.

1757
02:40:28,530 --> 02:40:33,150
The naming was determined to be categorically exempt from the California Environmental Equality Act,

1758
02:40:33,270 --> 02:40:40,030
pursuant to sequence sections 15301 for existing facilities and section 1531 for access restructures.

1759
02:40:41,150 --> 02:40:45,810
The project is within the Ceramesa Community Plan Area of Council District 7,

1760
02:40:46,370 --> 02:40:53,150
and the site lies between Larkdale Avenue and Makawa Avenue within the RM-11 and RS-17 zones.

1761
02:40:54,650 --> 02:41:00,330
The Cabrillo Heights neighborhood lies east of Interstate 805, west of Interstate 15,

1762
02:41:01,030 --> 02:41:04,570
and approximately 0.6 miles south of Montgomery Gibbs Airport.

1763
02:41:06,030 --> 02:41:17,430
The existing 26 foot wide and 0.4 mile long alley was established from app number 303 of the Rancho Cabrio subdivision in 1960.

1764
02:41:19,090 --> 02:41:26,630
Known today is the Cabrio Heights neighborhood. The alley serves as a divide between the multi-dwelling unit residential RM11 zone to the north,

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02:41:26,910 --> 02:41:32,370
shown here in Tope, and the single-dwelling unit RS17 zone to the south, shown here in the yellow.

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02:41:33,620 --> 02:41:47,020
The development pattern of the Cabrio Heights neighborhood is characterized by multi-family U.S. military housing to the north along Larkdale Avenue and single-family residences to the south along Makawa Avenue.

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02:41:48,390 --> 02:41:58,440
In accordance with the street name change regulations under the San Diego Municipal Code, the applicant provided identified 85 property owners,

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02:41:58,440 --> 02:42:06,340
or tenants with either property of letting the alley or property within an address on the affected segment of the subject right of way.

1769
02:42:07,980 --> 02:42:21,140
The petition was circulated via door to door, canvassing, resulting in 25 signatures in favor, which equates to 29% in support and exceeds of the 25% minimum threshold required by the code.

1770
02:42:21,140 --> 02:42:26,560
It's important to note here that addresses, without signatures, we're not responsive.

1771
02:42:27,440 --> 02:42:36,460
And should today's action be approved, all-fronting properties will have the option to submit an address change request for information bulletin 185.

1772
02:42:39,240 --> 02:42:51,940
In accordance with San Diego Municipal Code Section 1251120C, staff determine that the project does not adversely affect the multi-agency computer-added dispatch service for police, fire, and paramedic vehicles,

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02:42:51,940 --> 02:42:57,760
or the policies and procedures of the United States Postal Service as ETI-Way is not currently

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02:42:57,760 --> 02:42:59,600
in a science street name in the city.

1775
02:43:01,810 --> 02:43:09,470
On March 20, 2025, the Serum Mesa Community Planning Group voted 601 in support of a recommendation

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02:43:09,470 --> 02:43:16,410
to approve the naming of the alley to ETI-Way, citing enhanced safety, navigation, property

1777
02:43:16,410 --> 02:43:20,130
addressing, and community identity as a reason for their support.

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02:43:21,480 --> 02:43:29,060
In consideration of the staff report and supporting materials, staff recommends that city council adopt a resolution for the

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02:43:29,060 --> 02:43:37,600
exemption, to seek a section 1, 5301 and 1, 5311, staff further recommends that the council adopt a resolution

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02:43:37,600 --> 02:43:46,700
of proving street name change PMT 3349350. This concludes staff's presentation and staff and the lead applicants are here to answer any questions.

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02:43:47,560 --> 02:43:49,180
All right, thank you for the presentation.

1782
02:43:49,620 --> 02:43:51,260
Please proceed with public comment.

1783
02:43:55,910 --> 02:43:57,190
We have a few speakers here.

1784
02:43:57,630 --> 02:43:58,690
Good luck, Deckner.

1785
02:43:58,750 --> 02:44:00,750
If you can please come up to the microphone.

1786
02:44:01,110 --> 02:44:03,430
If I can have the following individuals, please come up to the yellow

1787
02:44:03,430 --> 02:44:04,790
Reserves seats at the front.

1788
02:44:05,150 --> 02:44:11,090
It's a Deckner, a Veeve Deckner and room room room room.

1789
02:44:11,570 --> 02:44:11,810
Deckner.

1790
02:44:13,390 --> 02:44:14,570
You'll have two minutes each.

1791
02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:15,350
Please proceed.

1792
02:44:17,090 --> 02:44:18,530
Or if you'd like to all speak together, that's fine.

1793
02:44:23,710 --> 02:44:24,970
Would you like to all speak together?

1794
02:44:24,970 --> 02:44:26,810
Yeah, as an organized presentation.

1795
02:44:28,450 --> 02:44:28,550
All right.

1796
02:44:28,550 --> 02:44:29,610
We came here

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02:44:32,840 --> 02:44:33,620
at Ali.

1798
02:44:34,620 --> 02:44:35,360
The biggest issue

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02:44:37,760 --> 02:44:38,560
of delivery,

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02:44:39,240 --> 02:44:40,420
the emergency services,

1801
02:44:40,860 --> 02:44:43,240
because it's such a distinct situation.

1802
02:44:43,640 --> 02:44:45,280
The houses that are facing Ali,

1803
02:44:46,380 --> 02:44:48,240
are very difficult to find.

1804
02:44:49,620 --> 02:44:52,760
So we'll see the inside wells driving around.

1805
02:44:52,760 --> 02:44:54,440
I know from the neighborhood,

1806
02:44:55,460 --> 02:44:57,600
that somebody called the emergency ambulance

1807
02:44:58,160 --> 02:44:59,960
and they came to the house facing.

1808
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:13,500
Please. We're unable to find the house that they will call to in Bali. So we are here to show support and hope to get that.

1809
02:45:13,980 --> 02:45:13,980
Thank

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02:45:16,730 --> 02:45:18,030
you.

1811
02:45:18,130 --> 02:45:19,070
Thank you. Is that concludes your comments?

1812
02:45:19,150 --> 02:45:19,350
Yes.

1813
02:45:19,730 --> 02:45:24,130
I appreciate you being here. We'll go to those participating remotely starting the five minute timer.

1814
02:45:24,550 --> 02:45:25,210
There's actually nobody,

1815
02:45:28,550 --> 02:45:31,830
nobody in the virtual queue that concludes public comment on this item.

1816
02:45:36,090 --> 02:45:40,390
Thank you for taking the time and sitting through this afternoon's conversations.

1817
02:45:41,650 --> 02:45:42,410
This is in District 7.

1818
02:45:42,570 --> 02:45:47,150
We would normally go to the District 7 Council member for guidance and geographic courtesy.

1819
02:45:48,630 --> 02:45:49,270
He is not here.

1820
02:45:49,510 --> 02:45:51,810
So we'll go first to Council member Bon Wilpert.

1821
02:45:52,970 --> 02:45:53,210
Thank you.

1822
02:45:53,470 --> 02:45:56,970
Yes, since Councilor Camp he was up on fraternity leave with his new baby.

1823
02:45:57,270 --> 02:46:00,950
I'm happy to make the motion to approve recommendation to change the alleyways name.

1824
02:46:02,250 --> 02:46:07,450
Okay, we have Council Member Bonlopent moving in the recommendation and we go next to Council Member Campbell.

1825
02:46:07,790 --> 02:46:09,550
I'm happy to second the motion.

1826
02:46:10,510 --> 02:46:12,490
All right, we have a motion by Council Member Campbell.

1827
02:46:12,650 --> 02:46:14,910
The second the motion is for recommendation on here.

1828
02:46:14,950 --> 02:46:16,150
I don't see anybody else in the lights.

1829
02:46:16,990 --> 02:46:18,570
I've got a couple of questions.

1830
02:46:19,750 --> 02:46:24,950
This is a request by private property owners or residents.

1831
02:46:26,110 --> 02:46:27,370
Who's going to pay for the new signs?

1832
02:46:32,730 --> 02:46:33,210
Thank you.

1833
02:46:33,210 --> 02:46:40,670
This conversation was held with a transportation department and on August 7th of this past year

1834
02:46:40,670 --> 02:46:45,170
we received confirmation from senior traffic engineer Gary Pence and the transportation department

1835
02:46:45,170 --> 02:46:49,490
that once approved by council this would become an aimed ally like the rest of the city

1836
02:46:49,490 --> 02:46:54,030
and there is no charge for the street sign installation to the applicants

1837
02:46:54,030 --> 02:46:58,170
that transportation will issue work orders to the streets divisions for the signs

1838
02:46:58,170 --> 02:47:00,610
and it will be funded from the general fund.

1839
02:47:00,610 --> 02:47:06,110
Okay, I have to admit, I have a little hard burn even though it's like 3,500 bucks going forward.

1840
02:47:07,110 --> 02:47:16,470
Given the very long needs list that we have City didn't identify this as a problem or something to be solved.

1841
02:47:17,630 --> 02:47:23,570
And so I have a little bit of hard burn about doing that, especially with the military housing benefit from this.

1842
02:47:23,830 --> 02:47:28,130
Apparently the military didn't offer to jump in on this conversation.

1843
02:47:29,250 --> 02:47:32,390
I appreciate the comment about emergency response.

1844
02:47:32,590 --> 02:47:38,550
I don't want anybody to think that an ADU or a house in the back of a property that

1845
02:47:38,550 --> 02:47:41,710
fronts on the street and has an alley behind it is dangerous.

1846
02:47:43,470 --> 02:47:48,030
I don't know why a 911 call wouldn't have identified where the problem was going for it.

1847
02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:54,470
I don't want anybody to think that is dangerous, but I do have these terrible, terrible

1848
02:47:54,470 --> 02:48:00,470
that we're having, even $3,500, that's kind of a big deal going forward.

1849
02:48:01,090 --> 02:48:05,430
So I wish the 29 people that, or the 25 people that have signed it,

1850
02:48:05,790 --> 02:48:09,770
would have been willing to pay up for that sign to their mutual benefit.

1851
02:48:10,790 --> 02:48:13,890
But I just wanted to clear that up and bring that to everybody's attention.

1852
02:48:14,570 --> 02:48:18,230
So seeing nobody else on the lights, we have a motion by Council Member Vol. Wilbert,

1853
02:48:18,230 --> 02:48:23,630
and a second by Council Member Campbell to move the staff recommendation.

1854
02:48:25,510 --> 02:48:27,650
I'm sorry, the voting system, please cast your vote.

1855
02:48:35,510 --> 02:48:36,570
That passes unanimously.

1856
02:48:37,170 --> 02:48:39,530
To zero with Council Member Campio, absent.

1857
02:48:39,630 --> 02:48:40,550
Thank you, Council President.

1858
02:48:41,650 --> 02:48:44,950
All right, congratulations on getting this action and look forward to a

1859
02:48:44,950 --> 02:48:48,110
Munich O change update to clarify some of those questions.

1860
02:48:49,190 --> 02:48:51,750
With that, we will now take up non-agenda public comment.

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the council members respect and appreciate the public input and are fully committed to

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02:48:56,150 --> 02:49:00,370
protecting every participants for speech rights at council and committee meetings.

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02:49:00,590 --> 02:49:02,390
Clerk, please proceed with public comment.

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02:49:02,950 --> 02:49:07,250
Thank you, per roll 2.7 on agenda public comment is an opportunity for members of the

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02:49:07,250 --> 02:49:10,650
public to comment on items that are not on the agenda but within the subject manager's

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02:49:10,650 --> 02:49:15,150
section of the city council each week will have two minutes. Please note if there are any

1867
02:49:15,150 --> 02:49:18,770
more speakers on a single topic the maximum time for the topic will be 16 minutes if you're

1868
02:49:19,210 --> 02:49:23,950
Please submit a speaker's up to the front of the room in the clear box if you're participating remotely now

1869
02:49:23,950 --> 02:49:28,910
So time to raise your hand by pressing star night with a raise your hand icon if I can have Christina

1870
02:49:28,910 --> 02:49:36,470
Garrier by Taylor please come to the front and then Anthony Ralphs if you can also come to the yellow reserve seats

1871
02:49:36,470 --> 02:49:38,410
You'll have two minutes. Please proceed

1872
02:49:39,350 --> 02:49:43,650
If you can just begin to that microphone that my time that is your timer. I will start when you speak

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02:49:44,930 --> 02:49:50,930
Hello, everybody, my name is Cristina Garibite Taylor, and I am here representing residents

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02:49:50,930 --> 02:50:00,690
from the 1,000 block of Granger Street, 19154, Ms. Vigan Moreno, is our district rep, or

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02:50:00,690 --> 02:50:08,490
sorry, our council member, and just to give you some brief history. In 2022, my husband

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02:50:08,490 --> 02:50:17,090
was in connection with Ms. Moreno to repair resurface the street we live in for the PCI which

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02:50:17,090 --> 02:50:25,870
is public record. Our street has been touched in over 30 years. I have pictures here, you know,

1878
02:50:26,030 --> 02:50:33,790
this doesn't do justice. She's been there in three years ago or so. We've been anxiously

1879
02:50:33,790 --> 02:50:38,730
waiting for repair, and just continue waiting.

1880
02:50:39,170 --> 02:50:42,230
So I was proactive this year, the beginning of the year.

1881
02:50:42,690 --> 02:50:46,850
I've emailed Mayor Todd Gloria for times,

1882
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including Ms. Morano, the Department of Transportation.

1883
02:50:49,790 --> 02:50:53,690
I am just here representing my community.

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And my husband and I, as well as every resident,

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02:50:57,730 --> 02:51:00,610
has paid and continues to pay taxes.

1886
02:51:00,610 --> 02:51:10,370
So I think we need to make our voice heard and we will do what it takes to make some noise and get everybody's attention.

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02:51:11,510 --> 02:51:16,270
With that being said, and let me see, hopefully I'm not missing anything in these two minutes.

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02:51:17,370 --> 02:51:21,350
I did. I would like to end with something from the mayor.

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02:51:22,910 --> 02:51:24,770
2026 state of the city address.

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The voices of residents on the $1,000 block of Granger Street, and 1,400 block of E-Boy Avenue

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02:51:32,810 --> 02:51:37,810
have gone unheard, request for a resurfacing in our neighborhood has been ignored for decades,

1892
02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:45,530
and then the mayor in his recent, and that means, roads are smooth sidewalks without trip hazard

1893
02:51:45,530 --> 02:51:52,870
three life that word. Anyway, you know, if if thank you, thank you for your time and hopefully

1894
02:51:52,870 --> 02:51:55,490
we thank you for that including comment. Anthony?

1895
02:52:02,210 --> 02:52:05,470
Hello, City Council. I wanted to start today

1896
02:52:05,470 --> 02:52:11,950
by thanking Shawnee LeRovero for the proposed empty homes tax and I wanted to thank everybody

1897
02:52:11,950 --> 02:52:21,490
else on the board that voted in favor of that including Kent Lee including Mr. Whipper and I

1898
02:52:21,490 --> 02:52:23,450
and rebel compil who's not here today.

1899
02:52:24,030 --> 02:52:27,710
But I wanted to start by thanking y'all for pushing that legislation forward.

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That means a lot to the people of San Diego that will go a long way in making housing affordable for everyone here in San Diego so thank you very much for doing that.

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02:52:37,410 --> 02:52:51,130
Part of the reason why I'm here today is because I wanted to talk about flock, which is meant a lot to me and my safety or my feeling of lack of safety and I wanted to talk about how everything from a human being down to the smallest

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02:52:51,910 --> 02:52:56,770
Electron changes its behavior when it knows that it's being observed and this

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02:52:56,770 --> 02:53:02,850
issue is to me a violation of the Fourth Amendment and I'm very concerned that

1904
02:53:02,850 --> 02:53:08,470
activists like myself will no longer feel comfortable and safe doing the work

1905
02:53:08,470 --> 02:53:13,570
in trying to keep everyone in our town safe for the issues that we love when we

1906
02:53:13,570 --> 02:53:18,870
find out about issues like a Operation Road Flair which just surfaced which we

1907
02:53:18,870 --> 02:53:26,630
Now, no is a project which ISIS engaged with along with the DHS in targeting activists, specifically

1908
02:53:26,630 --> 02:53:30,750
Gene Wong and Arturo Gonzalez, who are both friends of mine.

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02:53:32,250 --> 02:53:37,370
And these documents were revealed in Gene Wong's court appearance down at the Superior

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Court a couple of weeks ago.

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And this is what exactly what we were fearing a couple of months ago when we were having

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02:53:43,970 --> 02:53:50,370
discussion about flock in these chambers was that this technology could and would be utilized

1913
02:53:50,370 --> 02:53:56,950
to begin going after activists. And so now I'm asking y'all to please reconsider your position

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02:53:56,950 --> 02:54:03,490
on flock. And please don't continue casting this master bail and strike on activists like myself

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02:54:03,490 --> 02:54:07,410
and my friends. Thank you. Thank you for that concluding comment. I'm sorry the five minute time

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we're going to those participating remotely. We currently have eight speakers with their hands raised

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starting with Terri Anne Skelleys. Please unmute after that. Will be Francine Maxwell. Terri Anne, please

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proceed.

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02:54:21,940 --> 02:54:27,340
Good afternoon, San Diego City Council. My name is Terri Anne Skelleys. I'm a planning group member,

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02:54:27,480 --> 02:54:34,760
a parent, and a public health educator. Last week, KPBS interviewed Radies Children's Hospital,

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02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:42,840
pediatrician Dr. Natalie Law, regarding the increase of 600 adolescents to its emergency room

1922
02:54:42,840 --> 02:54:47,680
in 2025 because they need to treatment of some kind for their cannabis use.

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02:54:48,300 --> 02:54:49,920
She said that, and I quote,

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prior to 2020,

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we were only seeing a handful of adolescents a year,

1926
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maybe 20 or 30.

1927
02:54:58,120 --> 02:55:00,760
Cannabis products are far more pregnant today

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02:55:00,760 --> 02:55:04,960
than what previous generations were exposed to, and quote.

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PBS interview Dr. Lobby in response to the new research published

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in the Journal of American Medical Association regarding cannabis use with increased risk

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02:55:16,280 --> 02:55:22,220
per serious mental health conditions. The strongest associations the study found was for

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psychotic and bipolar disorders where the risk was about doubled. And importantly, teens reported

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02:55:30,220 --> 02:55:36,540
on their cannabis use about one to two years before their mental health diagnosis.

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02:55:36,540 --> 02:55:41,500
Again, Dr. Log is loud, is quoted in a quote.

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We see this public of crisis emerging in children and young adults with early initiation of cannabis use and quote.

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02:55:50,940 --> 02:56:03,100
I think we as residents of San Diego need to ask ourselves what this early use marijuana means for the long-term well-being of our younger residents and the many who care about them.

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and take responsibility for reducing visibility and promotions

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that come with selling marijuana here in our city.

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02:56:11,600 --> 02:56:13,720
Thank you for hearing me this afternoon.

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02:56:14,560 --> 02:56:17,440
Thank you, next is Francine Maxwell, if you can please unmute.

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After that, it's medicine.

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Francine Maxwell, South Eastern, San Diego resident.

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02:56:24,140 --> 02:56:29,300
I think I heard from the diocese today that we want the community to feel safer.

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02:56:29,300 --> 02:56:36,360
And so, this council should be asking why they're not getting more updates from the CPP.

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02:56:36,560 --> 02:56:41,860
We are extremely excited to have an executive director, but you haven't shared with the community

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02:56:41,860 --> 02:56:43,460
why we don't have our attorney.

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02:56:43,880 --> 02:56:48,520
We have been in meeting conferred for almost three years, so that also erodes the trust.

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02:56:48,880 --> 02:56:55,080
We completely understand that we will be in meeting conferred for a while, but again, any opportunity

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02:56:55,080 --> 02:57:02,160
the share information with the community on where we are because the CPP does not have their own

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attorney and that's what we voted for. And so, again, we want to build trust and not having

1951
02:57:11,320 --> 02:57:16,480
an attorney doesn't do that, but what could build trust and what should open up the communication

1952
02:57:16,480 --> 02:57:23,360
with the council along with the community is that post is in town, March 3rd, 4th and 5th.

1953
02:57:23,360 --> 02:57:30,080
And some of our San Diego PD may be in those particular conversations and in those presentations.

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And so we need to be educated and make sure that if people have the time,

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can go on March 3rd, 4th and 5th down to the post meeting, which is going to be down at CalTrans,

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very important opportunity to find out about other officers that may help educate people

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and get them to file more complaints against some of our officers so that we can change

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some of the training. Love the direction that we're going in for training, but sometimes training

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is just not enough. There's an undergrad and there's a lot of private conversations, there's

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a lot of backdoor conversations going on, but you're not holding a hearing with the constituents

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and you're not holding town halls on public safety. So, again, let's, let's, let's dive in and let's build trust and have hard conversations in safe places.

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Madison, if you can please unmute, after that is Andrea Ebbing. Madison, please unmute.

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02:58:32,210 --> 02:58:41,610
Okay, thank you. Good afternoon, City Council members. I am here this afternoon as a community member concerned about an issue affecting young people in San Diego,

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02:58:41,610 --> 02:58:48,270
which is the rise in use of inhalants, including nitrous oxide products commonly known as

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wippets. These products are inexpensive, widely available, and often perceived by teens as harmless

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because they're sold legally for culinary purposes. But when misused, inhaling nitrous oxide

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can deprive the brain of oxygen in seconds. That can lead to a loss of consciousness, seizures,

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traumatic falls and in some cases sudden death. Repeated use carries longer term risks.

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Medical professionals have documented nerve damage, spinal cord injury, vitamin B12

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02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:27,630
depletion, cognitive impairment, depression and psychosis all linked to heavy

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02:59:27,630 --> 02:59:32,570
nitrous oxide exposure. Because it acts so quickly on the brain, it can also be

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02:59:32,570 --> 02:59:38,010
psychologically reinforcing for adolescents whose brains are still developing. What

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makes this especially concerning is how accessible these products are. In many

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02:59:42,590 --> 02:59:46,490
neighborhoods they are sold in smoke shops alongside other intoxicating

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02:59:46,490 --> 02:59:51,830
substances. We are normalizing retail environments that cluster mind-all

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02:59:51,830 --> 02:59:57,470
throwing products together and our youth are paying attention. As a city we often

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talk about mental health and equity.

1978
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:16,980
And preventing youth access to harmful inhalants fits squarely within those goals. I encourage the council to examine enforcement, retailer, education, and whether additional safeguards might be needed to limit youth access and reduce bulk sales that clearly signal misuse.

1979
03:00:17,860 --> 03:00:25,020
Brain development continues into the mid 20s. The decisions we make about retail environments and public health protections matter.

1980
03:00:25,720 --> 03:00:26,320
Thank you.

1981
03:00:26,320 --> 03:00:30,420
Thank you. If the five minutes I wanted to conclude during her comment, there were eight people in the

1982
03:00:30,420 --> 03:00:34,540
Q&A, additional speakers will be taken after those eight. Next is Andrea.

1983
03:00:34,840 --> 03:00:40,260
Every and after that is November, and in 87, and then 7499. Please proceed.

1984
03:00:40,720 --> 03:00:41,040
Andrea?

1985
03:00:41,680 --> 03:00:50,460
I am a mother of three beautiful girls who were all adapted from San Diego.

1986
03:00:50,460 --> 03:00:57,760
They're in two separate states, with two felony charge perpetrators of domestic violence, with me as their name victim.

1987
03:00:58,420 --> 03:01:07,760
So my daughters were ripped out of their home away from each other, taken thousands of miles away from me and each other.

1988
03:01:09,660 --> 03:01:13,920
On a permanently suspended license by somebody who just had strangled me on video.

1989
03:01:13,920 --> 03:01:19,660
So my other acts, the one who paid for their shared attorney, whose name is Ben Embrey,

1990
03:01:20,020 --> 03:01:27,040
who was also in attorney in another case in which some are stepping protected and defended

1991
03:01:27,040 --> 03:01:30,720
only her husband and perpetrator, who is the richest and fade doctor.

1992
03:01:31,580 --> 03:01:32,940
This woman was pushed to suicide.

1993
03:01:33,020 --> 03:01:39,040
Her name is Alexander Venton, Alexander Venton, she survived, but she was abandoned too.

1994
03:01:39,040 --> 03:01:50,780
So we are traumatized, and I need to get these emails, and I want to know, like, it is you people sitting up there did not take my children. You didn't sell my children.

1995
03:01:51,440 --> 03:02:01,120
Judge Paula Rosenstein did, some are stuff and did, hurled all over did, even until you wanted Billy driver did.

1996
03:02:01,120 --> 03:02:05,720
Callie Tamaskin did, Holland to FOIA did, right?

1997
03:02:06,240 --> 03:02:13,280
So, but when I'm reporting stuff like my ex's partner is an opioid dealer who had written

1998
03:02:13,280 --> 03:02:18,160
78,000 scripts and dead people in prisoners' names and had rehab patients and homeless people

1999
03:02:18,160 --> 03:02:23,560
picked them up and distribute those drugs and he only got 18 months for it after his sixth medical

2000
03:02:23,560 --> 03:02:29,020
life's interrogation, as well as per Kashfatia, who's a psychiatrist, summer stuff and used

2001
03:02:29,020 --> 03:02:34,440
committee assessment is also an opioid dealer and then these people continue to get contracts.

2002
03:02:34,980 --> 03:02:39,680
I'm begging you guys to hold these people accountable. I don't know if you have the power to

2003
03:02:39,680 --> 03:02:44,640
do it, but I am begging you to hear my voice because we need each other. Thank you.

2004
03:02:45,300 --> 03:02:53,360
Thank you. Next is 8700. If you can please unmute after that is 7499. 8700. There you go.

2005
03:02:53,980 --> 03:02:59,360
I thank you, I tell you I send you out of CD3 a couple of things before I make my point.

2006
03:03:00,580 --> 03:03:07,300
President LaCava, thank you for what you said regarding the budget on that alley naming item.

2007
03:03:08,020 --> 03:03:15,180
I really really appreciated that. That was just a little thing but it was a great statement.

2008
03:03:15,420 --> 03:03:19,760
Thank you. Now I want to say this before I get to my main point.

2009
03:03:19,760 --> 03:03:21,620
I'm probably getting a lot out of time City Clerk,

2010
03:03:21,620 --> 03:03:27,440
great anyway, so we'll be at Sandy A. Go County Water Authority.

2011
03:03:28,280 --> 03:03:31,680
When are we going to wake up to them?

2012
03:03:32,460 --> 03:03:38,900
Now, I'm going to research this later, but do they have a vested interest

2013
03:03:38,900 --> 03:03:46,540
in our legally obligated to do what they make us do with the 50% or if it's a new thing,

2014
03:03:46,540 --> 03:03:53,280
they don't pay for it or whatever, what are they doing? Are they putting ourselves? Are they just,

2015
03:03:53,640 --> 03:03:59,960
I don't get what's going on here. We have a great city attorney's office. Why don't they know,

2016
03:04:00,600 --> 03:04:07,300
legally obligated to do with these people? And it's not, you know, uh,

2017
03:04:07,300 --> 03:04:13,800
listening to the people, it's systems that they work with that they condone, that make me so angry.

2018
03:04:13,800 --> 03:04:18,220
So I'll have to wait and speak later, but I'll say something briefly.

2019
03:04:18,700 --> 03:04:26,640
I'll speak on that Colorado River Crisis article probably tomorrow, but I just want to

2020
03:04:26,640 --> 03:04:33,780
say that if you go before the water comes to the dams, that's at the San Vicentue Reservoir

2021
03:04:33,780 --> 03:04:39,100
with just 15 miles north east of the city, and then you go north in a canoe backwards.

2022
03:04:39,760 --> 03:04:45,800
Look at that network. Start with the snow in the mountains and follow our water down.

2023
03:04:46,320 --> 03:04:51,820
You won't believe what's happening. It's not nice. And we've got to do something about it.

2024
03:04:51,840 --> 03:04:53,540
Thank you, love to all.

2025
03:04:54,140 --> 03:04:59,540
Thank you next to 7499. If you can please unmute. After that is Becky Rapp.

2026
03:05:01,820 --> 03:05:08,880
I've noticed that more and more city departments are using constant contact to send marketing email to citizens.

2027
03:05:08,880 --> 03:05:11,420
So I did a search on constant contact abuses.

2028
03:05:12,020 --> 03:05:15,040
Here's what an AI summary that I got back said, quote,

2029
03:05:15,600 --> 03:05:18,380
constant contact has been associated with various abuses,

2030
03:05:18,880 --> 03:05:20,620
including credential fishing attacks,

2031
03:05:21,120 --> 03:05:24,200
where threat actors compromise accounts to send malicious email.

2032
03:05:24,880 --> 03:05:29,220
These incidents highlight the risks of using shared email marketing platforms

2033
03:05:29,420 --> 03:05:33,300
as compromise accounts can lead to widespread fishing attempts.

2034
03:05:33,740 --> 03:05:37,040
Leveraging the platforms trusted reputation to deceive recipient,

2035
03:05:37,700 --> 03:05:42,280
Cybercriminals have also abused constant contact infrastructure to create malicious

2036
03:05:42,280 --> 03:05:44,980
links leading to credential theft and quote.

2037
03:05:45,480 --> 03:05:48,740
So why is the city using constant contact to communicate with citizens?

2038
03:05:49,340 --> 03:05:53,420
For example, the city clerks website has a button that says quote, sign up for city council

2039
03:05:53,420 --> 03:05:55,840
agenda and update distribution list quote.

2040
03:05:56,280 --> 03:05:59,500
But that link goes to constant contact pages.com.

2041
03:05:59,740 --> 03:06:03,740
The city's parking recreation department has a link titled quote, sign up for to receive

2042
03:06:03,740 --> 03:06:06,380
meeting agendas, news and updates and quote.

2043
03:06:06,380 --> 03:06:09,800
But their sign-up link also goes to constantcontact.com.

2044
03:06:10,240 --> 03:06:14,720
Why can't the city send its own email messages to citizens without involving a third-party

2045
03:06:14,720 --> 03:06:15,100
business?

2046
03:06:15,880 --> 03:06:20,420
Similarly, why are the city council agenda archives maintained by Highland Cloud?

2047
03:06:20,860 --> 03:06:24,360
If you go to the city clerk's website, City Clerk official docs, legislature docs,

2048
03:06:24,660 --> 03:06:28,420
Brown Act, you'll find that the current agenda in PDF format is there.

2049
03:06:28,640 --> 03:06:29,020
It's beautiful.

2050
03:06:29,460 --> 03:06:30,380
Thank you, City Clerk.

2051
03:06:30,880 --> 03:06:33,380
But none of the archive to genders are there.

2052
03:06:33,380 --> 03:06:38,080
Instead, there's a link to quote past Agenda's and minutes, and that link, of course,

2053
03:06:38,300 --> 03:06:40,160
redirects to HighlandCloud.com.

2054
03:06:40,560 --> 03:06:44,760
Why is it that the City Clerk can post the current Agenda to the City's own website, but

2055
03:06:44,760 --> 03:06:46,760
can't just leave it there as an archive?

2056
03:06:47,300 --> 03:06:50,920
Why is the City paying private businesses to deliver public content?

2057
03:06:51,300 --> 03:06:55,600
As we've learned from Tory Pine Flyderport, the mixture of government monopoly and private

2058
03:06:55,600 --> 03:06:57,360
greed is never good.

2059
03:06:57,780 --> 03:07:00,620
Please stop selling your citizens to private businesses.

2060
03:07:01,120 --> 03:07:01,920
Thank you.

2061
03:07:02,740 --> 03:07:16,180
Thank you. Next is Becky Rapp. If you can please unmute. Also, if you raised your hand after the five minute timer, we will not be able to take you today, but you can definitely email your comments in the city clerk at San Diego.gov and those will be distributed. Please proceed by key.

2062
03:07:18,440 --> 03:07:31,580
Thank you. And good afternoon, council president council members. My name is Becky Rapp and today I'd like to draw your attention to a major new brain imaging study published in JAMA by researchers at the University of Colorado.

2063
03:07:31,580 --> 03:07:38,380
So, this was the largest MRI study ever conducted on marijuana and cognition, testing more than

2064
03:07:38,380 --> 03:07:41,640
a thousand young adults between the ages of 22 and 36.

2065
03:07:42,540 --> 03:07:43,940
The findings are very concerning.

2066
03:07:44,820 --> 03:07:51,760
Heavy marijuana use was associated with significantly reduced brain activity, 63% of users

2067
03:07:51,760 --> 03:07:54,800
showed diminished neural response.

2068
03:07:55,660 --> 03:07:59,980
The reduced activity was seen in parts of the brain responsible for executive control,

2069
03:07:59,980 --> 03:08:05,920
attention and emotional processing. These are the very areas we rely on for judgment, impulse

2070
03:08:05,920 --> 03:08:11,980
control, and safe decision-making. Young adulthood is a critical time for brain development,

2071
03:08:12,480 --> 03:08:16,900
an exposure to high-potency marijuana, which is being sold in our city's pot shops,

2072
03:08:17,340 --> 03:08:23,680
has serious consequences. I urge this council to ensure that public education and prevention

2073
03:08:23,680 --> 03:08:25,860
become a top priority.

2074
03:08:26,580 --> 03:08:32,080
San Diego has an opportunity to lead with evidence-based studies, so I urge this council

2075
03:08:32,080 --> 03:08:38,480
to consider what will the future look like if they look like in San Diego if younger generations

2076
03:08:38,480 --> 03:08:42,120
are suffering from preventable cognitive impairment.

2077
03:08:42,820 --> 03:08:43,640
Thank you.

2078
03:08:44,640 --> 03:08:47,600
Thank you, next is John Stump if you can please unmute.

2079
03:08:51,760 --> 03:08:53,180
Thank you.

2080
03:08:53,420 --> 03:08:54,320
Be quick.

2081
03:08:57,260 --> 03:09:05,020
I want to talk to particularly the President of the Council about the format and content

2082
03:09:05,020 --> 03:09:06,980
of staff reports.

2083
03:09:08,180 --> 03:09:18,580
The format and content of staff reports needs to be seriously reviewed to consider what's

2084
03:09:18,580 --> 03:09:19,540
not in there.

2085
03:09:19,540 --> 03:09:24,880
And what's not in there is the free lunches and hidden subsidy.

2086
03:09:25,960 --> 03:09:31,420
The council president made a good point about the street sign and it's cost.

2087
03:09:31,960 --> 03:09:40,960
But of course those costs didn't include the cost and stall and the cost to have it on the agenda today.

2088
03:09:41,920 --> 03:09:51,700
hidden subsidies, many organizations who do great things get a free lunch, they get support

2089
03:09:51,700 --> 03:09:59,900
from the council for their lease or their activity, but the council never considers what

2090
03:09:59,900 --> 03:10:04,100
it costs to maintain that facility or the activity.

2091
03:10:05,140 --> 03:10:09,560
In the case, and I'll give you an example, the Lake Hodges thing is a clear example.

2092
03:10:09,560 --> 03:10:17,240
One group says, we don't need light couches, and we don't want to subsidize, that's a sound decision.

2093
03:10:20,380 --> 03:10:34,160
At the city, we have C-World, which has a contract which provides reimbursement to the city of the city's cost associated with C-World activities.

2094
03:10:34,160 --> 03:10:44,980
but the other venues operate like the zoo, my favorite, and they don't reimburse the city for its cost.

2095
03:10:45,500 --> 03:10:49,040
Just because they say we're going to bring in revenues.

2096
03:10:49,680 --> 03:10:52,600
Really is not financial analysis.

2097
03:10:53,480 --> 03:10:54,880
That's betting on a come.

2098
03:10:55,620 --> 03:10:56,940
Okay, thank you very much.

2099
03:10:57,020 --> 03:10:57,860
Thank you.

2100
03:10:58,120 --> 03:10:59,120
Next is Judy Stranger.

2101
03:10:59,120 --> 03:11:00,660
If you can please let me in.

2102
03:11:04,430 --> 03:11:09,590
Good afternoon, City Council. Thank you for this opportunity to share some thoughts I've had.

2103
03:11:10,030 --> 03:11:15,030
We are planning our after school program for mentoring and touring of

2104
03:11:15,030 --> 03:11:21,650
by teens for elementary school students. As such, I receive a lot of information about research

2105
03:11:21,650 --> 03:11:28,250
going on for teens. A lot of information regarding the challenges they face and since I work with them

2106
03:11:28,250 --> 03:11:35,130
every day I get to see it first and a previous speaker mentioned a research that's just

2107
03:11:35,130 --> 03:11:40,650
come out and reported in the Journal of American Medical Association and I'd like to

2108
03:11:40,650 --> 03:11:44,350
tell you a little bit more about it because it gets to the heart of some of the questions

2109
03:11:44,350 --> 03:11:51,730
that we've had regarding marijuana use and mental health issues which causes what.

2110
03:11:51,770 --> 03:11:56,830
This is a research using Kaiser Permanente Health System in Northern California.

2111
03:11:58,050 --> 03:12:05,910
460,000 teenagers were followed until they were 25 years old. They were asked about their

2112
03:12:05,910 --> 03:12:12,130
marijuana use and then later if they had mental health issues. They were trying to understand

2113
03:12:12,130 --> 03:12:18,950
what came first so they did not include in the study anyone who was already showing signs of mental

2114
03:12:18,950 --> 03:12:24,110
health issues. They could just want to make the connection between cannabis use and mental health

2115
03:12:24,110 --> 03:12:34,630
So they found that there was a high number of teens who began cannabis use as young teens who later manifest in mental health issues.

2116
03:12:36,330 --> 03:12:44,690
And particularly the two they noticed were the psychotic disorders like schizophrenia, as well as bipolar.

2117
03:12:45,530 --> 03:12:53,290
These two particular diseases are extremely expensive to treat and debilitating for everyone around them.

2118
03:12:53,290 --> 03:13:04,610
I think it becomes ever more important for us to understand the role of marijuana in the role of our young people as they travel this journey to adulthood. Thank you.

2119
03:13:05,210 --> 03:13:11,250
Next is Barbara Gordon. If you can please unmute. Barbara, your final speaker.

2120
03:13:12,370 --> 03:13:20,190
Good afternoon, I am here today to urge you to address the alarming rise in tobacco pouches

2121
03:13:20,190 --> 03:13:23,750
such as Zen, and their impact on our youth.

2122
03:13:24,050 --> 03:13:30,030
These products are marketed by the tobacco industry as tobacco free contained, but they contain

2123
03:13:30,030 --> 03:13:36,010
nicotine, are often perceived as harmless, particularly by younger people.

2124
03:13:36,010 --> 03:13:41,170
Our high school and college campuses are littered with these pouches.

2125
03:13:41,510 --> 03:13:48,190
These, the low risk of perception has led to the increase of experimentation and addiction

2126
03:13:48,190 --> 03:13:51,830
among adolescents jeopardizing their health and future.

2127
03:13:51,990 --> 03:13:59,170
Dicotine pouches during adolescents can cause significant cognitive impairment and negatively

2128
03:13:59,170 --> 03:14:02,850
affecting attention, learning, and impulse control.

2129
03:14:02,850 --> 03:14:09,190
Furthermore, young people who used tobacco pouches or more likely to transition to traditional

2130
03:14:09,190 --> 03:14:15,530
cigarettes, marijuana, and perpetuating the cycle of addiction and health risk.

2131
03:14:15,850 --> 03:14:21,350
The flavored varieties of these products further entice youth masking the harshness of

2132
03:14:21,350 --> 03:14:24,650
tobacco, making it easier for them to start using.

2133
03:14:25,210 --> 03:14:31,890
I am asking the City Council to consider a public service campaign or initiative to raise

2134
03:14:31,890 --> 03:14:38,490
awareness about the dangers of these tobacco pouches. By working together, we can foster a health

2135
03:14:38,490 --> 03:14:44,990
environment for our youth, protecting them from the benefit tactics of the tobacco industry,

2136
03:14:45,750 --> 03:14:52,570
and ultimately reducing the prevalence of tobacco use in our community. Thank you for

2137
03:14:52,570 --> 03:14:57,450
letting me speak. Thank you. That doesn't include knowledge in a public comment for this meeting.

2138
03:14:58,530 --> 03:14:59,870
All right, thank you, City Clerk.

2139
03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:04,600
Does the city attorney have anything report out in close session?

2140
03:15:04,840 --> 03:15:06,860
There is nothing to report out from close session.

2141
03:15:07,220 --> 03:15:08,680
All right, thank you for confirming that.

2142
03:15:09,140 --> 03:15:13,560
We will now adjourn council to the regularly scheduled council meeting on Tuesday, March 3rd,

2143
03:15:13,640 --> 03:15:15,320
2026 at 10am.