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[6:17] all right, good morning.
[6:17] >> I will now call the city
[6:20] council meeting of Monday MARCH
[6:21] 2nd, 2026 to order.
[6:22] >> Please call the roll.
[6:22] Thank you.
[6:24] Council PRESIDENT Council
[6:27] member Campbell.
[6:34] Councilmember Whitburn Council
[6:35] Member Foster Dear Council
[6:39] Member Ron Wilber Council
[6:40] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
[6:41] Councilmember Campo COUNCILMAN
[6:46] Moreno Present Councilmember
[6:46] Eli Rivera and Council
[6:47] PRESIDENT Look, I can also
[6:48] thank the meeting our city
[6:52] Attorney Heather Ferber,
[6:53] independent budget analyst
[6:54] Carlos Monica and myself, your
[6:54] city clerk Diana Fuentes.
[6:58] All right, Thank you, City
[6:59] clerk.
[6:59] A quorum is now present.
[7:00] We will begin this morning with
[7:01] an invocation by Clark Winters
[7:04] followed with
[7:04] the acknowledgment and
[7:05] the Pledge of Allegiance let by
[7:09] council member Foster Grant
[7:10] those who hold office in
[7:10] the city the spirit of wisdom,
[7:11] charity and justice that was
[7:16] steadfast purpose.
[7:16] They MAY faithfully serve in
[7:17] their offices to promote
[7:21] the well-being of our people.
[7:22] We respectfully acknowledge
[7:22] that the culmination or
[7:28] the original inhabitants of
[7:29] the Unceded land now known as
[7:29] San Diego despite enduring
[7:34] the horrors of genocide and
[7:34] colonization, the Kumbayah
[7:35] spirit remains unbroken.
[7:36] We honor the resilience of
[7:40] their ancestors who fought to
[7:41] protect their culture and land.
[7:42] Today they carry their legacy
[7:45] forward ensuring that their
[7:46] traditions continue to thrive
[7:47] in gratitude and strength.
[7:47] We stand with the culmination
[7:53] connected to our past and
[7:54] committed to a thriving future.
[7:54] Please face the flag hand over
[7:58] your heart and begin.
[7:59] I pledge allegiance to the flag
[8:04] of the United States of America
[8:04] and to the Republic for which
[8:05] it stands One nation under GOD
[8:08] indivisible with liberty and
[8:08] justice for all.
[8:21] So please remember how
[8:22] the public can offer their
[8:22] testimony.
[8:23] Thank you.
[8:23] Council PRESIDENT I'd like to
[8:24] highlight the site on
[8:25] the screen That would be to
[8:27] tell the public enough for
[8:28] their public testimony during
[8:28] today's meeting.
[8:29] If you are in person please
[8:29] complete.
[8:30] The speaker spoke at
[8:33] the entrance of Chambers and
[8:33] bring it to the front of
[8:34] the room.
[8:34] No further in-person testimony
[8:35] will be taken once the Council
[8:38] begins Virtual testimony for
[8:39] better meeting measure purposes
[8:39] each we will have one minute
[8:40] per item per person for a
[8:46] maximum of three minutes if
[8:46] three or more items are on
[8:47] the agenda.
[8:47] I think that's everything.
[8:48] All right.
[8:48] Thank you.
[8:50] With that please read the close
[8:50] session items into the record
[8:51] and proceed with public
[8:51] comment.
[8:52] Thank you.
[8:52] Conference with Legal Counsel
[8:56] Existing Litigation Present
[8:57] California Government Code
[8:57] Section 5495 6.91 sec one.
[9:02] Maria Natalie Brazil versus
[9:03] City of San Diego.
[9:03] Conference of Labor Negotiators
[9:04] Present California Government
[9:07] Code Section 54957.6.
[9:08] If he has two city designated
[9:09] management team representative
[9:13] the purpose of this concession
[9:14] meeting is to review the city's
[9:14] position and instruct
[9:15] the city's designated
[9:16] representatives regarding meet
[9:19] and confer negotiations for
[9:20] successful Memorandum of
[9:20] Understanding Surrealism
[9:21] Employee Association American
[9:24] Federation of State County and
[9:25] Municipal Employees Local 127
[9:26] Deputy City Attorney
[9:26] Association of San Diego San
[9:32] Diego City Firefighters iaf at
[9:32] Local 145 California Teamsters
[9:36] Local 986 Anti-illegal Police
[9:37] Officers Association.
[9:37] If you like to speak to these
[9:38] items please be sure to submit
[9:42] a Speaker's up to the front of
[9:42] the room If you're
[9:43] participating virtually now's
[9:44] the time to raise your hand.
[9:44] There are no speakers here in
[9:47] council chambers going to those
[9:48] participating virtually.
[9:51] I started the five minute timer
[9:52] from number 80 ending in 8700.
[9:53] If you can please email and let
[9:53] me know which item or items you
[9:58] wish to speak to a Thank you
[10:03] one and two but you'll have two
[10:03] minutes.
[10:04] Please proceed.
[10:04] Thank you.
[10:08] Join me at a cd three for one
[10:12] trip And while I was wanting
[10:13] one of you to pull item in city
[10:14] attorney's office would provide
[10:18] statics and seek direction.
[10:19] This must have been a very
[10:20] serious trip and fall You have
[10:23] happened over seven years ago.
[10:24] If perhaps there are
[10:25] extenuating circumstances I
[10:30] would really like to know what
[10:30] is caused delay and settle this
[10:33] litigation for all these years
[10:40] To all you labor negotiations I
[10:41] want you to know that I rewrote
[10:45] and rewrote and rewrote my
[10:46] comment for the item three
[10:46] times.
[10:47] I just couldn't do it.
[10:50] I finally this morning I
[10:51] decided to just speak from my
[10:55] heart So I'll say this every
[10:56] single table I invite all of
[11:02] you present to step out of your
[11:02] role and become a family member
[11:06] sitting together at kitchen
[11:07] table to figure out how to
[11:13] balance the family budget.
[11:13] Is there an opportunity to cut
[11:18] the budget pie that's fair to
[11:19] all.
[11:19] Thank you so much for
[11:20] listening.
[11:20] Have a beautiful day.
[11:21] A beautiful week.
[11:23] Love you all.
[11:24] Thank you.
[11:24] That does include public
[11:25] comment on the closed session
[11:25] agenda.
[11:26] Thank you.
[11:29] Council PRESIDENT.
[11:29] All right.
[11:29] Thank you.
[11:30] With that we will now recess
[11:31] into closed session and
[11:32] reconvene council today at 2
[23:09] P.M. Or shortly thereafter
[25:09] and
[27:23] then
[27:24] .
[27:24] All right.
[27:25] Good afternoon.
[27:28] I will now reconvene the city
[27:29] council meeting of Monday MARCH
[27:29] 2nd, 2026.
[27:33] Clerk Please call the roll.
[27:33] >> Thank you.
[27:34] Council PRESIDENT Council
[27:35] Member Campbell here Council
[27:35] Member Whitburn here Council
[27:39] member Foster Council Member
[27:40] Von Wilpert Council PRESIDENT
[27:43] Pro Timely Hear Council Member
[27:44] Campion Council Member Moreno
[27:48] Present Council member Ella
[27:49] Rivera and Council PRESIDENT
[27:53] LaCava also attend the meeting
[27:54] Our Assistant City Attorney
[27:54] Michelle Garland Independent
[27:57] budget analyst Charles Monica
[27:58] Advisor in the Mayor's office.
[28:02] MR. Wilde and myself your city
[28:03] clerk Diana Fuentes.
[28:03] Thank you.
[28:04] All right.
[28:07] Thank you MADAM City Clerk
[28:07] Quorum is now present so we'll
[28:08] start off first by asking if
[28:12] there's any comments from
[28:13] the mayor's office from city
[28:13] council member, city attorney,
[28:16] independent budget analyst or
[28:17] the city clerk and we see
[28:18] the city clerk cards comments I
[28:21] just wanted to give a quick
[28:22] update that we are going to be
[28:25] ending our community engagement
[28:26] survey at the end of this week.
[28:27] There is a qr code during our
[28:30] present during our slides that
[28:33] go up and on my website w w w
[28:34] dot San diego.Gov backslash
[28:34] city clerk on the front web
[28:39] page there we encourage
[28:39] everyone to participate and
[28:40] please give us feedback on how
[28:41] we can better support public
[28:44] engagement in city council
[28:44] meetings.
[28:45] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[28:45] right.
[28:46] Thank you MADAM Clerk and thank
[28:48] you for going for that extra
[28:49] effort to get that public
[28:49] input.
[28:50] So with that please go over how
[28:53] the public can offer their
[28:53] testimony.
[28:54] >> Thank you.
[28:54] Council PRESIDENT I'd like to
[28:59] highlight the slide that was on
[28:59] the screen but the screen that
[29:00] reviews how public offer can
[29:03] how the public can offer their
[29:04] public testimony during this
[29:04] afternoon's meeting.
[29:07] You can go and get the website
[29:08] link at w w w dot San diego.Gov
[29:09] backslash City Clerk on our
[29:12] agenda it is there at the front
[29:13] If you'd like to participate
[29:14] via zoom it's w w w dot San
[29:18] Diego dot gov slash c c m t g
[29:22] It's back up on the screen now
[29:23] as well as the webinar id
[29:23] information.
[29:26] If you are in person please
[29:27] complete the speaker slip
[29:28] located at the entrance of
[29:28] chambers and bring it to
[29:29] the front of the room in
[29:31] the clear box.
[29:32] There's also council
[29:33] ambassadors that are available
[29:33] near the entrance of chambers
[29:36] and can assist with questions
[29:37] and speaker slips.
[29:37] If you are participating
[29:40] remotely press star nine or
[29:41] the raise your hand icon and no
[29:42] further in-person testimony
[29:45] will be taken once the Council
[29:46] begins Virtual testimony.
[29:46] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[29:47] right.
[29:47] Thank you.
[29:49] And with that please introduce
[29:49] item 200.
[29:50] Item 200 is an informational
[29:50] item.
[29:54] It is the annual update from
[29:55] the San Diego City Port
[29:58] Commissioners If you'd like to
[29:59] if you'd like to speak on this
[30:00] item, now is the time to submit
[30:01] your speaker slip to the front
[30:04] of the room into the clear box
[30:04] or if you are participating
[30:08] remotely come on in.
[30:09] If you are participating
[30:10] remotely please be sure to
[30:10] raise your hand by pressing
[30:14] star nine or the raise your
[30:14] hand icon.
[30:15] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[30:18] right.
[30:18] Thank you.
[30:19] Well welcome to our chambers
[30:20] this time And these are our
[30:23] port commissioners that are
[30:23] the commissioners representing
[30:24] the city of San Diego.
[30:24] San Diego Excuse me.
[30:28] Please introduce yourselves for
[30:29] the record and let us know how
[30:29] much time you need for your
[30:30] presentation.
[30:33] Good afternoon, Council
[30:34] PRESIDENT.
[30:34] 15 minutes, please.
[30:35] All right, When you're ready,
[30:38] Go ahead.
[30:39] Next slide.
[30:39] Oh.
[30:39] Oh, no.
[30:40] Sorry.
[30:43] I apologize.
[30:48] I know you're very excited and
[30:49] good afternoon, Council
[30:49] PRESIDENT.
[30:50] Members of the City Council.
[30:51] I'm Michael Zuccato.
[30:54] I'm the vice chair of the board
[30:55] of Port Commissioners joined by
[30:55] Commissioner Silver Opera and
[30:58] Commissioner Daniel Moore.
[30:59] We are your three San Diego
[31:00] appointees.
[31:03] We're going to give you a brief
[31:03] update on a number of items
[31:07] today broken down into three
[31:08] categories parks and open space
[31:08] economic development.
[31:09] And we're going to tell you
[31:11] about some exciting events
[31:12] coming through our Tidelands
[31:12] activation program.
[31:21] Next slide please.
[31:35] No, no, no.
[31:35] Very good.
[31:36] So beginning with parks and
[31:37] Open space, we're going to
[31:40] begin with what will be
[31:40] the largest veterans park on
[31:44] the West Coast Freedom Park at
[31:45] Burnham Navy Pier.
[31:46] If you look at the rendering
[31:49] there, that's Navy Pier on
[31:50] the left side of this
[31:50] photograph and the park will
[31:54] begin at that eastern edge of
[31:55] the pier ramp all the way
[31:59] around the midway over the g
[32:03] Street Mall on the other side
[32:04] and ten acres in all.
[32:08] So this is a very substantial
[32:08] park that is under construction
[32:09] today.
[32:09] The port demolished last year
[32:13] that had house warehouse
[32:14] looking structure at the at
[32:18] the base of the pier.
[32:18] It's it's it's nearing
[32:22] completion of the under under
[32:23] water reinforcements and
[32:23] engineering that's going on
[32:27] the Midway Museum our partners
[32:28] in this effort continue their
[32:29] fundraising for their
[32:32] construction and we're excited
[32:33] that completion is scheduled to
[32:36] be in time for Veteran's Day
[32:37] 2028.
[32:37] Next slide please.
[32:42] Moving on to Cesar Chavez Park
[32:42] improvements.
[32:46] This is a this is a project
[32:47] that is in a more preliminary
[32:47] design phase.
[32:51] We're working closely with
[32:52] Councilmember Moreno,
[32:52] the Barrio Logan Community
[32:56] Planning Group which kind of
[32:56] park steering committee.
[32:57] We've had a few public
[33:01] workshops and pop up events
[33:05] trying to come up with a
[33:06] collaborative design and a plan
[33:10] to make these improvements at
[33:11] the moment we're talking about
[33:11] a splash pad.
[33:12] We're talking about more lawn
[33:15] space for picnics and
[33:16] gatherings a perched beach sort
[33:19] of above above the water Aztec
[33:20] inspired hardscape shade
[33:24] structures and other a
[33:25] amenities although this is in
[33:25] preliminary design the good
[33:30] news is this this project is
[33:30] basically already funded
[33:34] through something at the port
[33:34] called the Balance Capital
[33:35] Program which is something
[33:36] where each member cities
[33:39] commissioners sort of guide
[33:40] some public money And this is
[33:44] the choice of the three
[33:45] commissioners before you in
[33:45] terms of San Diego.
[33:49] And so this is this project is
[33:50] largely funded construction
[33:51] we're hoping is fall of 2027
[33:54] completed in the spring of
[33:54] 2028.
[33:58] Next slide please.
[34:01] Another ten acre park currently
[34:01] .
[34:06] Next slide please.
[34:07] Coming up for East Harbor
[34:07] Island.
[34:11] This is the part of East Harbor
[34:12] Island that you probably
[34:13] haven't been to before unless
[34:16] you made a wrong turn.
[34:17] This is the part that is right
[34:18] by Harbor Island Drive.
[34:21] It's currently parking lots for
[34:25] overflow rental cars and
[34:26] construction areas for the for
[34:27] the airport right now It's
[34:31] going to be the future site for
[34:32] Topgolf which my colleague is
[34:33] going to talk about in a second
[34:36] But we're talking about that
[34:36] what do you call that teal
[34:37] aquamarine around it?
[34:40] That's a ten acre park all on
[34:40] the waterfront.
[34:45] There's also a proposal for
[34:46] about a six and a half acre
[34:46] entertainment and restaurant
[34:50] district in this area.
[34:50] The part of Harbor Island that
[34:51] most people are familiar with
[34:55] is that part of the photograph,
[34:55] part with the restaurants and
[34:56] the hotels.
[34:56] This is right now literally a
[35:00] walled off sort of industrial
[35:00] section of of of East Harbor
[35:05] Island And it will and this
[35:05] entire development and park
[35:10] space will be transform at of
[35:10] Next slide please.
[35:14] Finally at least for for my
[35:15] part of this presentation want
[35:16] to update you on the maritime
[35:19] clean air strategy Something
[35:20] the port adopted in 2021.
[35:20] The purpose of it was and
[35:24] the goal of it was health
[35:25] equity for all basically what
[35:28] can we as a port do more to
[35:29] improve on the lives of
[35:30] the port communities who
[35:34] surround the operations of
[35:34] the port And and one of
[35:38] the goals of the of the of
[35:39] the strategy was to put our
[35:43] goals make them aggressive and
[35:44] put them in writing and hope to
[35:45] generate federal and state
[35:48] money to help fund those
[35:48] activities.
[35:49] And I think it's fair to say
[35:53] that even our most optimistic
[35:53] hopes were far exceeded to
[35:54] date.
[35:58] We've raised sort of a quarter
[35:59] billion dollars in the last
[36:03] five years to fund electric
[36:03] cranes completely electrify
[36:08] almost completely electrify
[36:08] the 10,000 Marine terminal.
[36:09] By the way, all that electric
[36:13] equipment is is the electricity
[36:13] from It comes from a solar
[36:16] powered microgrid grid at
[36:17] the 10,000 Marine terminal
[36:17] which also saves money and
[36:21] reduces further emissions.
[36:22] So very grateful to the work of
[36:22] our staff at the port
[36:26] especially Jobe Nelson who you
[36:26] already know and his team who
[36:27] have really gone above and
[36:30] beyond in securing this money
[36:31] and the result of that of those
[36:35] investments were demonstrated
[36:36] in our emissions inventory
[36:40] which was just published and it
[36:40] showed that in a five year
[36:41] period we had a 30% decrease in
[36:45] nitrogen oxides and a 46%
[36:46] decrease in diesel particulate
[36:50] matter emissions from port
[36:51] related activities in just a
[36:51] five year period.
[36:55] And so we're pretty excited
[36:55] about that.
[36:56] Just at our last board meeting
[37:00] we we approved our clean cargo
[37:01] port grant with epa which did
[37:01] come through.
[37:05] We have a couple of partners on
[37:06] that goal.
[37:06] Our main tenant at the 10th
[37:07] Avenue Marine Terminal and
[37:10] Patient Automotive who is our
[37:11] who runs the terminal down in
[37:15] National City also in that
[37:16] grant we've got funded a
[37:16] workforce development staff
[37:20] member who's going to who's
[37:21] going to help promote clean
[37:25] tech careers And so we're
[37:25] excited about these results and
[37:26] look forward to continuing
[37:30] the progress Moving on.
[37:31] Commissioner Ferrara Good
[37:31] afternoon.
[37:34] Sid Baraka For the record I'm
[37:35] happy to be here.
[37:36] I also want to acknowledge as
[37:40] Commissioner as you mentioned
[37:41] Jobe Nelson, Jobe Nelson, Scott
[37:41] Chadwick and Ron Powell I think
[37:45] they need no introduction from
[37:45] all of you have joined us today
[37:46] as well.
[37:50] I'm going to share three
[37:50] projects all under
[37:51] environmental review at this
[37:55] point in time.
[37:56] But as you'll see we see end of
[37:56] the tunnel or the light at
[37:59] the end of the tunnel on all
[38:00] three of them starting with
[38:00] Seaport San Diego.
[38:04] It is our most ambitious
[38:05] project in its planning stages.
[38:09] I know you are all familiar
[38:09] with it.
[38:10] This mixed use project proposes
[38:14] free public uses and commercial
[38:15] ventures including plazas,
[38:19] parks, promenades, piers
[38:20] marinas, hotels, retail and
[38:20] restaurants, Commercial fishing
[38:24] uses multiple visitor
[38:25] attractions and urban beach and
[38:29] educational uses as well.
[38:30] It would unfold on about 39
[38:35] acres of land and 63 acres of
[38:35] water that includes parts of
[38:40] Seaport Village Tuna Harbor,
[38:41] Embarcadero, Marina Park North
[38:41] and Rucker Park.
[38:44] So as I said it's under
[38:45] environmental review and we
[38:45] actually anticipate the next
[38:46] the completion of that review
[38:47] later this year.
[38:52] Next slide please.
[38:53] >> The second project I want to
[38:58] share is the is 1220 Pacific
[38:58] Highway.
[38:59] So after completing a deal with
[39:02] the us Navy to acquire its
[39:03] leasehold the port staff is
[39:03] preparing to present a proposed
[39:07] use for the site at our MARCH
[39:08] 10th Board of Port
[39:12] Commissioners meeting and we
[39:13] are actually considering a
[39:13] proposal that promises to bring
[39:14] in a new public attraction to
[39:17] the area next to
[39:18] the Intercontinental Hotel
[39:18] along the Embarcadero.
[39:23] So I think all three of us are
[39:24] excited to see a development
[39:25] plan that transforms what has
[39:27] been an unusable 3.4 acre
[39:32] cluster of Navy office
[39:33] buildings since 1949 into an
[39:33] activated space for our
[39:37] community.
[39:38] >> Next slide please.
[39:43] Vice Chair As you can also talk
[39:44] a little bit about East Harbor
[39:45] Drive our East River Island
[39:48] excuse me and the park and this
[39:49] is part of our activation
[39:49] program with Topgolf.
[39:54] So this proposed project sits
[39:55] on ten acres again also
[39:59] occupied currently by rental
[39:59] car companies.
[40:00] It's also under environmental
[40:04] review and we're expecting an
[40:05] air to be circulated for public
[40:06] study and comment this fall.
[40:10] Once it is the air is certified
[40:14] by the Board of Commissioners.
[40:14] It will be submitted to
[40:15] the California Coastal
[40:16] Commission for review.
[40:19] And it is that's a crucial step
[40:20] that would allow construction
[40:25] to begin topgolf promises to
[40:26] serve as a magnet that we think
[40:27] will attract the public and
[40:30] provides a jolt of energy to
[40:31] East Harbor Drive between
[40:32] the planned East Harbor Island
[40:35] Park and Promenade and Topgolf.
[40:36] We the three of us are in
[40:40] particular looking to see how
[40:41] we could reimagine this space
[40:41] that as Vice chair you
[40:45] mentioned has been just not
[40:46] usable for the public in our
[40:46] community.
[40:50] Next slide.
[40:51] >> And finally for me and my
[40:52] portion of this presentation
[40:56] are cruise industry.
[40:56] So the port is experiencing
[40:57] rebound in its cruise ship
[40:57] business.
[41:01] We had a 107 cruise ship calls
[41:05] with 389,000 passengers this
[41:05] season.
[41:09] So as just to give a comparison
[41:09] in the 2024 2025 cruise season
[41:14] we recorded 75 cruise ships and
[41:14] welcomed just about 260,000
[41:19] passengers at that time.
[41:19] So during that season cruise
[41:20] lines had repositioned ships to
[41:24] Asia and Australia and tested
[41:25] other markets.
[41:30] But I want to say
[41:31] congratulations to our maritime
[41:31] team who have really worked
[41:35] hard to kind of engage
[41:35] the cruise line industry.
[41:39] And this year's performance is
[41:40] similar to our 2023 2024 season
[41:40] and that's what Global Travel
[41:45] magazine recognized us San
[41:46] Diego is the best cruise port
[41:47] in the world at Seas and saw
[41:49] 101 cruise calls with 340,000
[41:49] passengers.
[41:50] So to give you a sense of why
[41:55] this matters for all of us,
[41:56] each voyage that begins and
[41:57] ends in San Diego So a home for
[42:00] all injects $2 million into
[42:01] the local economy through ship
[42:02] provisioning and visitor
[42:02] spending.
[42:06] >> a stop here by cruise ship
[42:06] that originates at a different
[42:10] port brings in about $600,000
[42:11] into our local economy.
[42:11] This year's fiscal year
[42:16] the port's cruise businesses
[42:17] will generate an estimated $157
[42:18] million in economic impact to
[42:22] the San Diego County.
[42:23] And I see we're down to three
[42:24] and half minutes so I'm going
[42:24] to turn it over to my colleague
[42:25] Commissioner Maurer.
[42:26] Okay.
[42:27] Hello.
[42:27] Hello everyone.
[42:33] Daniel Moore very proud to be
[42:37] to serve on this board And one
[42:38] of the best parts is being able
[42:39] to serve with the other
[42:40] commissioners commissioners who
[42:43] can't is is modest when he
[42:43] talks about the cas But I'm
[42:44] sure you all observed how he
[42:49] stood up a little taller his
[42:50] chest out a little bit more and
[42:50] that's because of the work that
[42:54] was done with the with cas with
[42:55] during his tenure as chair.
[42:55] So at the advice chair this
[42:59] year we are very excited about
[43:00] his leadership next year so
[43:01] that he can continue
[43:01] introducing more innovative
[43:05] ideas like cas.
[43:06] I'm going to walk us quickly
[43:06] through some other exciting
[43:10] things that are happening at
[43:11] the Port of San Diego the first
[43:11] one being Harbor Drive 2.0.
[43:12] And this project is about
[43:16] modernizing movement.
[43:17] We reduce truck idling, improve
[43:21] safety and make access more
[43:21] predictable while also moving
[43:22] goods better and making
[43:27] breathing easier, easier.
[43:28] Harbor Drive is a front line
[43:29] corridor and has to work for
[43:32] freight visitors and nearby
[43:33] neighbors especially
[43:33] communities impacted by diesel
[43:34] emissions.
[43:38] And it is not just a traffic
[43:39] project it's a health and
[43:43] mobility project aligned with
[43:44] our emissions reduction goals
[43:44] and regional partners like
[43:49] Caltrans and sandag who have
[43:50] been instrumental in making
[43:50] this project come to life.
[43:55] And what we're modernizing now
[43:56] One thing I also wanted to note
[43:57] that is already this year
[43:58] the port participated in a
[44:00] joint federal race grant
[44:01] application with Caltrans with
[44:02] the goal of furthering this
[44:02] corridor concept and also
[44:06] environmental analysis is
[44:07] expected to be released for
[44:08] public review this fall.
[44:17] Next slide please.
[44:18] >> One of the exciting stories
[44:19] that we are able to tell at
[44:23] the Port of San Diego is about
[44:24] the blue economy incubator.
[44:25] You look at places like Silicon
[44:25] Valley that have become known
[44:29] for their tech innovation.
[44:30] The San Diego Bay has really
[44:31] become known all over the world
[44:35] for the innovation that we are
[44:36] doing in our San Diego Bay in
[44:36] terms of incubating
[44:41] technologies and concepts that
[44:41] will improve the blue tech
[44:42] economy.
[44:47] And so the Board of
[44:47] Commissioners last month
[44:48] approved the addition of our 13
[44:49] early stage water dependent
[44:53] company to the roster of
[44:54] the port's blue economy
[44:54] incubator portfolio.
[44:59] The new entrant is Naoko Design
[45:00] Corp Corporation, also known as
[45:00] Lux Blue.
[45:03] And one of the things that
[45:04] makes them so excited and
[45:04] exciting is that they have
[45:05] patented underwater
[45:08] bioluminescent lighting
[45:09] solution that will replace
[45:10] plastic glow sticks which are
[45:15] harmful to the environment.
[45:15] The board agreed to fund
[45:19] the Lux bio startup for up to
[45:20] $350,000 for 18 months where
[45:20] they will be able to use
[45:24] the bay to test their enzyme
[45:25] powered underwater lighting
[45:26] technology at several
[45:26] locations.
[45:30] And in exchange they will pay
[45:31] us up to $2.1 million over time
[45:32] from eventual sales of their
[45:36] product.
[45:37] >> One of the proof points when
[45:42] we look at our entire portfolio
[45:43] is that we have had innovative
[45:48] technologies that have removed
[45:49] remove marine debris at a scale
[45:50] of over 110,000 pounds.
[45:55] We have also had letting short
[45:56] land where 60 plus species were
[46:00] documented on bio enhancing
[46:00] armor units within months.
[46:01] We're able to see real time
[46:02] environmental monitoring that
[46:06] replaces weeks long lab delays
[46:07] with actionable data.
[46:08] And so that same commitment to
[46:12] a healthier, more accessible
[46:13] bay shows up in how we invest
[46:13] in our parks.
[46:15] Starting with Cesar Chavez Park
[46:15] .
[46:22] Next slide please.
[46:23] >> Commissioners, we get talked
[46:24] about some of the work that is
[46:27] doing to redesign the park in
[46:28] collaboration with
[46:29] Councilmember Moreno's office.
[46:33] And I wanted to acknowledge
[46:34] that that work is not about,
[46:35] you know, consulting with
[46:35] the community afterwards But
[46:39] from the very beginning being
[46:39] integrated in the community and
[46:40] really getting feedback about
[46:41] what they want.
[46:45] And so the port will host a
[46:46] free day at the park cultural
[46:46] celebration etc. Etc..
[46:50] Chavez Park on Saturday APRIL
[46:51] 11th from 11 to 3 P.M. This
[46:52] family friendly event is part
[46:56] of the port's expanded access
[46:56] program that really is designed
[46:57] to bring people out, bring
[47:01] residents out to our parks to
[47:02] be able to enjoy
[47:02] the waterfront.
[47:03] And we are able to sponsor a
[47:07] day of fun and entertainment
[47:08] And highlights include
[47:09] multicultural entertainment
[47:09] featuring local artists hands
[47:14] on children's activities,
[47:15] interactive community booths
[47:15] and vouchers for free food and
[47:16] beverages.
[47:20] We are entering our third year
[47:21] of water activation program and
[47:21] we'll have similar events at
[47:27] other parks throughout the bay.
[47:27] All right.
[47:28] Our last sighted focus on
[47:28] the big bay boom.
[47:32] Every JULY we get very excited
[47:32] about this event that brings
[47:33] hundreds of thousands of
[47:33] visitors to San Diego.
[47:39] The port began to be the title
[47:42] sponsor of the Big Apple this
[47:43] 4th of JULY with the fireworks
[47:43] event that draws crowds of
[47:44] 300,000 attendees.
[47:48] The pyrotechnic show provides a
[47:49] boost to hotels, restaurants
[47:49] and small businesses and this
[47:54] year's show will be special as
[47:55] the nation celebrates the 250th
[47:55] anniversary of the signing of
[47:56] the Declaration of
[47:56] Independence.
[48:01] The port is partnering with
[48:01] Fleet Week San Diego as events
[48:02] new nonprofit partner and
[48:05] fiscal sponsor aligning
[48:06] the celebration with an
[48:07] organization that directly
[48:07] supports active duty service
[48:12] members and veterans.
[48:18] The cost are the benefit to
[48:19] the bay is $1 million in terms
[48:20] of the economic impact.
[48:24] And we also are excited to
[48:25] provide sponsorship to support
[48:25] cruise ships that are
[48:30] positioned in the bay during
[48:30] the event.
[48:31] All right.
[48:31] Thank you all.
[48:35] Thank you.
[48:36] And that concludes our report.
[48:37] We're happy to take any
[48:37] questions.
[48:38] I did just want to end on
[48:41] something that Commissioner
[48:42] Moore references which is we're
[48:42] very grateful for
[48:43] the opportunity to serve.
[48:48] We appreciate their confidence.
[48:49] You showed us to do that on
[48:49] behalf of the people of San
[48:54] Diego And we also think it's
[48:55] been proven you really enjoy
[48:56] working with each other as well
[49:00] And so I want to thank you for
[49:00] the opportunity.
[49:01] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[49:01] All right.
[49:02] Thank you.
[49:06] Thank you for the presentation
[49:06] .
[49:07] Thank you for taking the time
[49:07] to come here and make
[49:08] the annual report and your
[49:09] service to the port and to
[49:12] the city as our representative.
[49:12] So with that thought, please go
[49:18] to public comment.
[49:18] Thank you.
[49:19] Council PRESIDENT I'm sorry
[49:20] the five minute timer here in
[49:21] council chambers because I do
[49:23] not have any speakers for this
[49:24] item here in council chambers
[49:24] going to those on that line.
[49:30] John Stump If you can please
[49:31] unmute after that is Andrea
[49:34] Everingham the 8700 Johnson Hi
[49:35] ,good afternoon.
[49:36] You know the port report was
[49:41] very good but the problem is
[49:42] the port on one hand claims
[49:47] that it's trying to reduce
[49:47] carbon pollution, global
[49:53] warming and the environment all
[49:53] of the things that the port
[49:58] does create global warming and
[49:59] carbon production.
[50:05] So what's needed in the future
[50:05] is that for each activity we
[50:11] need to have an accounting of
[50:11] how much carbon, how much
[50:16] global warming pollution was
[50:17] created and what they did to
[50:18] decrease it.
[50:23] Folks, there's no free lunch.
[50:28] We can't on one hand salute
[50:28] climate change and global
[50:34] warming reduction and on
[50:34] the other hand increase our
[50:40] activities that burn fossil
[50:40] fuels and pollute
[50:41] the atmosphere.
[50:47] Thank you very much.
[50:47] >> Thank you.
[50:48] Next is Andrea I if you can
[50:52] please unmute.
[50:52] Hi guys.
[50:53] That was a really good
[50:58] presentation I think for
[50:59] the court in the area is just
[51:00] one of my favorite parts of San
[51:00] Diego.
[51:05] I think it's a really it's a
[51:05] place where upon arrival
[51:06] everyone is going to remember.
[51:11] So I like the plans I just saw
[51:11] a lot especially the last one
[51:17] where you know what's kind of
[51:18] like go over to Seaport Village
[51:19] and then just to somewhat
[51:23] piggyback on the last comment.
[51:24] I, I know we have quite a long
[51:29] history of fireworks and it's
[51:29] part of our skyline as part of
[51:30] San Diego for SeaWorld and all
[51:30] that.
[51:35] But I almost wonder if it's
[51:35] time to start looking at drone
[51:41] shows versus fireworks for
[51:41] the images, that sort of thing
[51:42] and the waste that is produced
[51:46] from those shows.
[51:47] I'm not quite sure what
[51:48] the regulations would be faa
[51:48] wise or aviation wise, but
[51:53] there are certainly some really
[51:53] solid vendors out there that do
[51:54] amazing drone shows That could
[51:59] be a great addition that
[51:59] attraction to San Diego.
[52:00] I think that whole area and
[52:01] everything we just saw could
[52:06] also be a great attraction for
[52:06] I don't know if we're doing our
[52:07] tourism What you can convince
[52:11] convention Visitors Bureau We
[52:12] have something like that but we
[52:13] could start campaigning in
[52:18] feeder markets.
[52:19] What I just saw from that
[52:19] visual is enough for me to want
[52:23] to visit If it was like long
[52:24] Beach or in a house or
[52:25] something like that.
[52:25] And that's it.
[52:26] Thank you so much.
[52:26] Thank you.
[52:29] Next is 8700 if you can please
[52:29] unmute.
[52:33] After that is Hector and then
[52:40] Kathleen Lippert.
[52:40] Thank you Joyce and the other
[52:41] three.
[52:44] So good to see all of you
[52:44] representing the court.
[52:49] A great presentation from all
[52:49] three.
[52:50] And I have to say this on
[52:50] record every time.
[52:55] I love our working waterfront.
[52:56] So you have three big
[53:00] categories and you covered them
[53:01] all very well.
[53:02] I want to say a couple of
[53:02] things.
[53:07] First of all, the court honors
[53:07] are military in big ways.
[53:08] The military are one for a big
[53:13] part of our San Diego family.
[53:13] Thank you so much.
[53:19] Health equity for all
[53:19] maintaining the clear air
[53:20] strategy.
[53:25] I believe that's a correct
[53:25] theme of that.
[53:25] Thank you.
[53:26] Thank you for that.
[53:27] Love the Electric cranes.
[53:31] I just when they were when they
[53:32] arrived it's just beyond belief
[53:33] They're they're so amazing.
[53:37] Thank you for that.
[53:37] 1220 Pacific Highway looks
[53:43] positive and fresh.
[53:44] Wow 1940s buildings That's well
[53:48] over I guess about 85 years old
[53:49] that those are strong buildings
[53:54] best crews port in the world
[54:00] That's an amazing statement And
[54:01] the amount of economic impact
[54:01] because of our being the best
[54:06] port cruise port in the world
[54:06] is so, so appreciated.
[54:07] We need more revenue.
[54:12] Everybody love the little Billy
[54:13] at the park.
[54:13] It's terrific.
[54:18] I would just ask you to do
[54:19] this.
[54:19] Most of the people I talk to
[54:20] really in downtown area do not
[54:22] know much about the working
[54:22] waterfront.
[54:30] It's about the word.
[54:31] Thank you for those comments if
[54:31] I MAY.
[54:32] A timer has concluded here in
[54:33] council chambers there are two
[54:33] people in the queue No
[54:34] additional people will be
[54:34] taken.
[54:35] Hector and Kathleen Lippert,
[54:35] your final two speakers.
[54:40] Hector begin, please.
[54:41] >> I knew I have to hear that
[54:46] the port has really have their
[54:47] stuff together from the get go.
[54:47] Guys did a great job.
[54:48] I just wish the city could
[54:51] model their game.
[54:52] You guys Everything's looking
[54:52] great.
[54:53] The veterans things out of
[54:58] Midway.
[54:59] i think you guys got to get on
[55:00] it because know there's burning
[55:03] daylight guys getting old You
[55:04] guys got to step it up like six
[55:09] months so it can be done before
[55:10] you check it out.
[55:11] But he's a great guy So also
[55:17] he's building on once we build
[55:18] a tunnel on the Strand I told
[55:19] you about it but now instead of
[55:22] just trying to do that with
[55:22] the Navy so you open up another
[55:28] part of San Diego Bay and it
[55:28] would be like on the southern
[55:29] end there put up jetties in
[55:34] there and have a tunnel go
[55:35] the road go underneath it,
[55:36] maybe another project to work
[55:38] on to the port and whatever he
[55:39] has to do is full speed ahead,
[55:40] get it done And thanks a lot
[55:41] for your time.
[55:45] Thanks.
[55:46] Thank you.
[55:47] Our final speaker is Kathleen
[55:47] Lippert.
[55:50] If you can please unmute.
[55:51] >> Thank you.
[55:52] Good morning and thank you for
[55:52] the presentation.
[55:56] It was a great presentation.
[55:57] Really do appreciate all of
[55:58] your suggestions and plans to
[56:03] increase and improve park
[56:08] amenities and park acreage.
[56:09] The Clean Air Strategy is
[56:10] something that San Diego will
[56:15] welcome and I am hoping that
[56:15] there is pushback from
[56:21] the board as to the taking or
[56:21] transitioning of mission Bay
[56:26] Park land to commercial
[56:27] amenities and taking away any
[56:32] of that from the public.
[56:32] It's really a disturbing
[56:33] prospect But thank you for all
[56:38] you're doing right now.
[56:39] >> Appreciate it.
[56:40] Thank you for letting me think.
[56:40] Thank you.
[56:43] That concludes with a comment
[56:44] on item 200.
[56:44] All right.
[56:45] Thank you, City Clerk.
[56:45] As a reminder, this is an
[56:50] information item and no motions
[56:50] required turned over to council
[56:51] members for questions Comment
[56:52] and we'll start with
[56:55] Councilmember Isla Rivera.
[56:56] Resident Thank you to our port
[56:56] commissioners.
[56:59] Really appreciate all three of
[57:05] you The time that you all spend
[57:06] the way that you show up And
[57:06] I'm really appreciating that
[57:07] San Diego is super well served
[57:11] by all three of you and I
[57:12] appreciate you doing the work
[57:16] that you do The update Great.
[57:17] Lots of good stuff.
[57:18] I really very much appreciate
[57:23] how much of what is is coming
[57:24] online will benefit or at least
[57:24] can benefit San Diego and
[57:25] provide access points for San
[57:29] Diego and especially young
[57:30] people even sheltered
[57:35] the shelter island park
[57:36] the little park that that there
[57:36] I took my son there a couple
[57:37] weeks ago and it's a great
[57:40] little playground.
[57:41] Um so appreciate the updates
[57:42] there and the progress that's
[57:46] being made still I think that's
[57:51] pretty incredible in terms of
[57:52] updates on on cruise ships.
[57:53] I'm curious is is there
[57:58] something in particular that
[57:59] you think changed or is it like
[58:05] they experimented elsewhere and
[58:05] kind of forgot what the thing
[58:06] they have here?
[58:06] What do you think
[58:07] the difference was on that
[58:10] front?
[58:11] Thank you Council Member I
[58:11] think it's actually a
[58:16] combination of multiple things
[58:16] .
[58:17] I think we've heard from
[58:22] the cruise industry that their
[58:22] guests, their cruisers they
[58:23] actually really like the San
[58:23] Diego homeport.
[58:28] I think that actually drove
[58:29] drives a lot of their thinking.
[58:30] I think that they also did as
[58:34] to your kind of like thinking
[58:35] about it that they did do a lot
[58:36] of experimentation in Asia And
[58:39] I think just the you know
[58:40] typically a 3 to 5 day kind of
[58:44] trip to through Baja actually
[58:44] is one that works really well
[58:45] even just from a not just from
[58:49] a visitor experience or
[58:50] customer experience but also
[58:51] just from an economics
[58:51] perspective as well.
[58:55] And and I can't thank enough
[58:55] our maritime team who have been
[58:56] really diligent about going out
[59:02] and actually engaging each of
[59:02] our cruise line industries and
[59:03] keeping ones like Holland
[59:04] America who's been on board for
[59:07] some time now very much engaged
[59:08] and excited about what we have
[59:14] to offer and I know that there
[59:15] are a couple of new cruise
[59:15] liners that are looking at
[59:20] doing home ports with us So I
[59:21] actually think the next time we
[59:22] come here we might have some
[59:22] bigger updates for you but I
[59:23] think it's a combination of
[59:23] those three.
[59:26] I just want to add to that You
[59:27] know, I think when Commissioner
[59:27] Barack Obama talks about they
[59:28] like the San Diego home port,
[59:32] they like being able to be
[59:32] dropped in the middle of our
[59:33] city and all that it offers.
[59:34] They like being adjacent to
[59:37] the airport where you look at
[59:38] other places in Southern
[59:39] California where it's so remote
[59:43] the port is isolated from a lot
[59:44] of things that are accessible.
[59:45] But here in San Diego you get
[59:45] dropped here and you get access
[59:49] to our entire city, to our
[59:49] transportation system, to
[59:50] the train system.
[59:51] And so it opens up so much for
[59:55] people when they come to San
[59:55] Diego.
[59:56] They're not just coming to you
[59:57] know, just go to the port.
[1:00:00] They're coming to see San Diego
[1:00:01] and see all that it has to
[1:00:01] offer.
[1:00:02] On that point I have to share a
[1:00:07] quick anecdote which was I was
[1:00:08] at Ralphs bagging my groceries
[1:00:09] in line and I was where my port
[1:00:13] San Diego jacket and
[1:00:14] the cashier asked me Do you
[1:00:14] work at the port?
[1:00:15] And it's actually one of our
[1:00:16] commuters here in San Diego And
[1:00:19] she said What are you bringing
[1:00:20] back a certain cruise line
[1:00:20] because I hate going my
[1:00:21] husband.
[1:00:21] I hate going to Long Beach So I
[1:00:25] kind of like several.
[1:00:25] Thank you.
[1:00:26] One question that I've asked
[1:00:31] every time you all come upon 20
[1:00:32] what's going on with line 20?
[1:00:36] What's the progress there?
[1:00:37] Thanks COUNCILMAN.
[1:00:42] I feel like I just looked at
[1:00:48] the potato so long process
[1:00:48] obviously right And at
[1:00:49] the moment So there are six
[1:00:54] agencies participating in
[1:00:54] the interagency review team to
[1:00:55] develop a banking enabling
[1:00:59] instrument along with port So
[1:01:00] maybe I should start by for
[1:01:01] those who are unfamiliar with
[1:01:01] what a banking enabled
[1:01:07] instrument is that's actually
[1:01:07] the legal binding agreement
[1:01:08] between the bank.
[1:01:08] The bank sponsor Sorry to stop
[1:01:09] you.
[1:01:13] I think maybe maybe even a
[1:01:14] little bit more about what
[1:01:14] point one is if you don't mind
[1:01:15] if I count the PRESIDENT's okay
[1:01:16] with a little bit of an
[1:01:17] overview for those who don't
[1:01:18] know.
[1:01:18] >> Sure.
[1:01:19] Thank you Councilmember.
[1:01:19] It's it's basically like
[1:01:25] wetlands mitigation projects So
[1:01:25] ensuring that there's specific
[1:01:31] space that we at the port of
[1:01:37] City will preserve for our it's
[1:01:37] I want to say it's 80 acres.
[1:01:38] Good job, Nelson Thank you very
[1:01:42] much Councilmember.
[1:01:43] I just needed to ask you that
[1:01:44] That is preserve wetlands
[1:01:44] mitigation.
[1:01:48] So what happens is oftentimes a
[1:01:49] developer will get as they're
[1:01:49] trying to do a a project will
[1:01:55] be required to have a specific
[1:01:55] set aside for uplands
[1:01:56] mitigation for the developer
[1:02:00] that they're doing and they'll
[1:02:01] typically pay off a certain
[1:02:01] kind of amount of money for a
[1:02:06] loop fee that says okay here's
[1:02:07] this cash for preservation and
[1:02:07] it's oftentimes just siloed and
[1:02:11] in different spaces.
[1:02:12] This particular project would
[1:02:13] ensure that that space here at
[1:02:17] the Tidelands would be
[1:02:18] preserved and could be used as
[1:02:18] this bank For other developers
[1:02:23] who are looking to determine
[1:02:23] projects, the money that's
[1:02:24] received can be then turned
[1:02:29] into an equity economic
[1:02:29] development opportunities.
[1:02:30] So it's actually the city of
[1:02:35] San Diego and Imperial Beach
[1:02:35] would be the recipients of
[1:02:36] those potential resources.
[1:02:37] I hope that's helpful.
[1:02:41] Councilmember And then
[1:02:42] the actual in banking enabling
[1:02:42] instrument as I mentioned is
[1:02:47] the legally binding agreement
[1:02:47] between the regulatory agencies
[1:02:48] and the bank sponsor which is
[1:02:52] the port of San Diego.
[1:02:53] And through that agreement
[1:02:54] that's where we actually are
[1:02:59] looking at defining how credits
[1:02:59] are created.
[1:03:00] Right?
[1:03:01] So like again I just did a very
[1:03:01] big overview but the agreement
[1:03:04] itself is will determine how
[1:03:05] those credits are created, how
[1:03:06] they are released and then how
[1:03:06] they are sold.
[1:03:11] >> So the interagency review
[1:03:11] team partly consists of
[1:03:12] the Army Corps of Engineers,
[1:03:17] the epa, the U.S. Department of
[1:03:17] Fish and Wildlife Services,
[1:03:18] noa, the California Regional
[1:03:22] Water Quality Control Board and
[1:03:22] California Coastal Commission.
[1:03:23] So where we stand right now is
[1:03:24] that there has been an
[1:03:28] iterative process of back and
[1:03:29] forth with questions being
[1:03:30] addressed by the interagency
[1:03:34] review team and currently we
[1:03:34] have a thousand comments from
[1:03:41] the that that team and we are
[1:03:41] actually going through those
[1:03:42] because they're all technical
[1:03:46] in nature and the port's plan
[1:03:47] is to resubmit with answers to
[1:03:48] those questions later this
[1:03:48] spring.
[1:03:52] >> Got it.
[1:03:53] And I don't know there's any
[1:03:54] way of even projecting out or
[1:03:58] is there a hope for when this
[1:03:59] turns into the sort of Wetlands
[1:04:04] rehab project that is
[1:04:05] envisioned or I don't know if I
[1:04:05] can say envision but nothing
[1:04:06] simple.
[1:04:10] So for sometimes like again
[1:04:11] once we submit these these
[1:04:12] questions are the easy answers.
[1:04:12] I have a feeling there are
[1:04:15] going to be multiple more
[1:04:16] questions.
[1:04:16] Keep on that.
[1:04:17] I will say this Councilmember I
[1:04:21] asked Port staff for a monthly
[1:04:22] meeting to just keep you
[1:04:23] updated on where things stand.
[1:04:27] So the hope is that we can move
[1:04:28] this along as fast as possible
[1:04:29] because it's a real opportunity
[1:04:29] We can turn this into an
[1:04:34] economic development banking
[1:04:34] instrument for inequity for San
[1:04:35] Diego and Imperial Beach And I
[1:04:39] think if it was natural
[1:04:40] wetlands or at one point before
[1:04:45] it was a salt like a commercial
[1:04:45] salt pond.
[1:04:45] That's right.
[1:04:50] So that's the restoration as
[1:04:51] well.
[1:04:51] Thank you.
[1:04:52] Appreciate that update And
[1:04:52] thank you again everyone for
[1:04:57] all the work that you're doing.
[1:04:58] >> Really, really appreciate
[1:04:58] everything that you're doing
[1:04:59] and have done and I think got
[1:05:03] some real reverb going back to
[1:05:03] Councilmember Moreno.
[1:05:04] >> Wonderful.
[1:05:04] Thank you and thank you for
[1:05:08] the presentation.
[1:05:09] I want to thank our port
[1:05:09] commissioners just for
[1:05:10] everything they do San Diego
[1:05:14] Port There is no other port
[1:05:15] like it I would venture to say
[1:05:19] in the whole world it's
[1:05:19] extremely dynamic Hotels,
[1:05:20] shipbuilding, navy, potential
[1:05:26] mitigation banks and city
[1:05:26] residents.
[1:05:27] Right.
[1:05:27] And there is nothing like this.
[1:05:32] So it's really clear to me that
[1:05:33] a great deal of planning and
[1:05:34] coordinating and vision has
[1:05:34] gone into the efforts that you
[1:05:38] guys presented and I do
[1:05:38] appreciate the transparency and
[1:05:39] sharing the progress to us and
[1:05:43] also to the public.
[1:05:44] I am very excited about all
[1:05:45] the projects In particular I
[1:05:50] want to point out a Harbor
[1:05:55] Drive 2.0 the pon 20 that was
[1:05:55] just mentioned that's in
[1:05:56] District eight and especially
[1:05:56] the significant investment
[1:06:00] the port is making into it as a
[1:06:01] obvious park.
[1:06:02] As was mentioned pon 20 is a
[1:06:06] salt encrusted area which
[1:06:07] the port will hopefully
[1:06:08] transfer it into a mitigation
[1:06:12] bank first of its kind in
[1:06:13] the San Diego Bay.
[1:06:19] I once upon a time was a
[1:06:19] staffer where there were
[1:06:24] proposals for this pon 20 and I
[1:06:24] think one of the most
[1:06:25] interesting one was a medieval
[1:06:30] Times arena.
[1:06:31] Obviously we're we're worlds
[1:06:36] away from an arena but I will
[1:06:42] say that I will be specifically
[1:06:42] asking what delays have we
[1:06:43] experienced in pon 20 at
[1:06:48] the state level And you
[1:06:48] mentioned that what was
[1:06:49] the agency that you guys were
[1:06:55] the port is Waianae is putting
[1:06:55] together its response to this
[1:07:00] agency right on an array of
[1:07:01] questions that they have asked.
[1:07:02] If I MAY just kind of clarify
[1:07:07] that Councilmember that's so
[1:07:08] we're the bank sponsor and so
[1:07:08] we have to respond to the inner
[1:07:13] agency review team.
[1:07:14] So that's called the agency
[1:07:14] review team And is that a state
[1:07:15] agency or is that a federal
[1:07:21] It's both.
[1:07:21] So it's the six members of that
[1:07:25] I r t is the Army Corps of
[1:07:25] Engineers, epa, us Department,
[1:07:26] Fish and Wildlife Services.
[1:07:32] Noah Gotcha.
[1:07:33] And then the Kaplan Regional
[1:07:33] Water Quality Control Board and
[1:07:34] the California coast of
[1:07:35] California goes to thank you
[1:07:37] for reiterate that I missed it
[1:07:38] when you first mentioned it And
[1:07:43] so you guys will respond or
[1:07:43] the Port of San Diego will
[1:07:44] respond.
[1:07:45] >> How long will that response
[1:07:49] take?
[1:07:50] >> And again, I think that
[1:07:51] we've been doing it's been an
[1:07:51] interim process.
[1:07:52] So to be clear like just so you
[1:07:55] know, this isn't the first
[1:07:56] response we've been having back
[1:08:01] and forth but the most recent
[1:08:02] set of questions and comments
[1:08:02] we received were over a
[1:08:03] thousand.
[1:08:07] And so we're looking at and now
[1:08:08] everybody at the Port of San
[1:08:08] Diego are on the record because
[1:08:12] I'm saying it that they told us
[1:08:13] but it's going to be submitted
[1:08:13] later this spring.
[1:08:14] Later this spring, Correct.
[1:08:18] So before JUNE 20th, 2026 And I
[1:08:19] have a feeling you'll be
[1:08:23] calling me when I do and I'm
[1:08:24] just trying to I want to I
[1:08:25] mentioned this earlier I have
[1:08:29] until DECEMBER and since I have
[1:08:30] been working at the city of San
[1:08:31] Diego I feel like this is a
[1:08:36] missed opportunity because of
[1:08:36] the land The land that we have
[1:08:41] in pon 20 is I mean Poseidon
[1:08:42] used used it for mitigation
[1:08:46] right next to upon 20 and they
[1:08:46] mitigated it for
[1:08:47] the desalinization plant in
[1:08:47] the northern part of
[1:08:52] the district and northern part
[1:08:53] of the county And it's I think
[1:08:54] it's a great opportunity and i
[1:08:54] know developers and folks are
[1:08:59] looking for land like pon 22 to
[1:08:59] bring back to life and
[1:09:04] obviously in the South Bay for
[1:09:05] any folks who ever drive over
[1:09:10] towards going on old state
[1:09:11] Route 75 Palm Avenue and you're
[1:09:16] going over towards the ocean
[1:09:17] it's the big piece of land
[1:09:17] that's over on your right hand
[1:09:18] side.
[1:09:18] Unfortunately that's or
[1:09:23] fortunately that is what
[1:09:23] the South Bay has.
[1:09:28] What we got from the port And
[1:09:29] so we really want to make sure
[1:09:30] that it's put to work and that
[1:09:35] we use it to the best of its
[1:09:35] ability.
[1:09:36] So we are going to respond
[1:09:41] before summertime and we don't
[1:09:41] know.
[1:09:42] This is the first time I ever
[1:09:47] hear of this agency so maybe we
[1:09:47] need to dissect this in another
[1:09:48] committee to get to know a
[1:09:53] little bit more about what are
[1:09:54] the next steps after that?
[1:09:54] How long does it take?
[1:09:57] I don't think we're the first
[1:09:58] mitigation bank in the nation.
[1:09:58] We might be I don't know.
[1:10:04] So just to get more information
[1:10:04] on what the steps to hold us as
[1:10:05] legislators accountable and
[1:10:07] also of you as our fearless
[1:10:08] port commissioners accountable
[1:10:14] as well.
[1:10:15] That sounds great,
[1:10:16] Councilmember.
[1:10:16] I will say to you just very
[1:10:19] quickly this council gave you
[1:10:20] the honor of serving on our
[1:10:21] Port Commission in FEBRUARY
[1:10:22] 2024 and I think it was in
[1:10:26] MARCH of that year when I asked
[1:10:27] for my first meeting about pon
[1:10:28] 20 because it seems such like
[1:10:31] an opportunity for us.
[1:10:32] I will also share that
[1:10:33] Commissioner Dan Malcolm who
[1:10:37] represents Imperial Beach he
[1:10:38] and I have chatted about how he
[1:10:43] actually was on the Imperial
[1:10:44] Beach Council in the late 90s
[1:10:47] when the agreement was made to
[1:10:48] create pon 20 with a negotiated
[1:10:49] agreement with environmental
[1:10:50] justice community as well.
[1:10:54] So we also have a strong
[1:10:54] partner in our are our fellow
[1:11:01] city national in Imperial Beach
[1:11:01] for moving this forward So and
[1:11:02] it's in Imperial Beach is
[1:11:06] former redevelopment district
[1:11:07] correct which is now confusing
[1:11:08] because of the disillusion of
[1:11:09] redevelopment But that's we're
[1:11:12] not going to get into the weeds
[1:11:13] of things.
[1:11:14] I just want to make sure that
[1:11:14] pon 20 comes to fruition in my
[1:11:15] lifetime.
[1:11:18] I'm 43 years old about to turn
[1:11:23] 44 so I will be pushing on that
[1:11:24] front But thank you for that
[1:11:24] and obviously more to come.
[1:11:29] Also equally excited about
[1:11:30] Harbor Drive 2.0.
[1:11:30] It's a significant project that
[1:11:31] will contribute to the vast
[1:11:35] industry sector and Oriel Logan
[1:11:36] and also the port And not only
[1:11:37] will it bring it bring better
[1:11:41] and nicer infrastructure, it
[1:11:41] will also mitigate
[1:11:42] environmental impacts that
[1:11:43] affect neighboring communities
[1:11:47] of barrio Logan.
[1:11:48] For decades the community of
[1:11:49] Barrio Logan has suffered from
[1:11:53] systemic disinvestment, limited
[1:11:53] green space and environmental
[1:11:59] burden burdens I should say
[1:11:59] plural.
[1:12:00] I know Joe has taken the lead
[1:12:01] on this and I do think I'm for
[1:12:05] it every time I ask for an
[1:12:06] update he's quick to respond on
[1:12:10] what you guys if I MAY take
[1:12:11] three more minutes of my my
[1:12:12] time This is obviously a
[1:12:17] priority for the port and it
[1:12:18] took a while but I thank you
[1:12:21] guys for making this one of
[1:12:22] the lead priorities.
[1:12:22] It is a significant project
[1:12:28] within the port so thank you
[1:12:29] for that Set up Travis Park
[1:12:30] three acre Park on
[1:12:35] the Waterfront in Barrio Logan
[1:12:35] See Meaningful resources
[1:12:36] directed into Cesar Chavez Park
[1:12:40] is a major step in the right
[1:12:41] direction and acknowledgment
[1:12:42] that our communities deserve
[1:12:46] the same level of care and
[1:12:46] opportunity as any other.
[1:12:47] I also I want to commend port
[1:12:52] staff who work diligently to
[1:12:52] advance this particular
[1:12:53] project.
[1:12:58] The community meetings
[1:12:58] regarding Cesar Chavez Park
[1:12:59] improvements have been just
[1:12:59] astounding.
[1:13:04] We give the community a
[1:13:04] platform to voice their opinion
[1:13:05] should they have one regarding
[1:13:10] this this park that they have
[1:13:15] and want to get a real
[1:13:16] opportunity to share input
[1:13:16] raised concerns And the last
[1:13:21] part is really have them help
[1:13:22] us shape the future of that
[1:13:22] park.
[1:13:23] I think this is what
[1:13:27] collaboration should look like
[1:13:28] Agencies working hand in hand
[1:13:32] with residents listening first
[1:13:32] and making investments that
[1:13:33] reflect the community's
[1:13:34] priorities And I know none of
[1:13:38] that could have been done
[1:13:39] without your guys's leadership.
[1:13:44] So it's an honor to have you
[1:13:45] guys as our port commissioners.
[1:13:49] You guys are very open, candid
[1:13:50] and I think you have
[1:13:51] the community's best interests
[1:13:55] at heart and I appreciate that.
[1:13:56] I appreciate that partnership
[1:14:03] And so do we have is there a
[1:14:03] motion on the floor to it's
[1:14:04] informational item?
[1:14:04] Okay.
[1:14:05] Wonderful.
[1:14:05] We're happy to have you guys
[1:14:08] when you guys come back before
[1:14:08] DECEMBER I hope.
[1:14:15] When do you want us back and do
[1:14:15] they present is back next week
[1:14:16] here but we can have to come
[1:14:20] back maybe like a day after
[1:14:20] spring is over.
[1:14:21] No Thank you guys.
[1:14:26] I appreciate it very much.
[1:14:27] Counsel, if I MAY, in terms of
[1:14:27] coming back, I think your idea
[1:14:28] about a committee hearing with
[1:14:33] respect to is is a great idea
[1:14:34] and an appropriate thing
[1:14:34] because it is a big deal.
[1:14:37] It has taken forever.
[1:14:38] Nobody's making any excuses And
[1:14:39] you heard that list of
[1:14:39] organizations.
[1:14:45] It's a you know, no shade on
[1:14:46] the Army Corps of Engineers or
[1:14:46] epa or coastal.
[1:14:49] But it is it is quite a process
[1:14:50] And Commissioner Moore and I
[1:14:51] are all in for sure And it's
[1:14:55] fair to say that Commissioner
[1:14:56] Ferrara has been particularly
[1:14:57] all in and leading the way on
[1:14:57] this.
[1:15:01] And so I think I think I think
[1:15:02] he will be the spokesperson for
[1:15:08] that for the committee meeting
[1:15:08] .
[1:15:09] >> Thank you.
[1:15:10] So I see that as a going away
[1:15:10] present for Councilmember
[1:15:11] Moreno.
[1:15:14] I'll wrap it up by DECEMBER.
[1:15:14] Thank you, Councilmember.
[1:15:14] Right.
[1:15:15] And we'll go next to
[1:15:19] Councilmember Vaughn Wilbert
[1:15:20] And thank you very much to our
[1:15:20] three commissioners for your
[1:15:21] excellent work and for
[1:15:24] the presentation today you
[1:15:25] represent the city of San Diego
[1:15:26] very well and we're glad that
[1:15:26] you're doing all that hard work
[1:15:30] on top of your normal lives and
[1:15:31] jobs.
[1:15:31] And so please know that I know
[1:15:32] how hard you work especially
[1:15:33] since I sit on the airport or
[1:15:36] you hear all the time about how
[1:15:37] hard everyone is working.
[1:15:37] So I appreciate you very much
[1:15:41] for your work and a huge kudos
[1:15:42] to the successes on emissions
[1:15:47] and sustainability.
[1:15:48] I mean you really are industry
[1:15:49] leaders in this and it's been
[1:15:50] incredible to watch And as you
[1:15:54] know San Diego and we are all
[1:15:54] beneficiaries of your work in
[1:15:55] terms of cleaner environment,
[1:15:58] clean air to breathe And so
[1:15:59] just in cheaper cheaper energy
[1:16:00] bills too, you know so it's
[1:16:01] just really want to thank you
[1:16:04] for all of that looking forward
[1:16:04] to all the improvements coming
[1:16:05] up.
[1:16:06] I do have one question about
[1:16:10] the convention center and I see
[1:16:11] Joe and Scott are here too so
[1:16:12] I'm excited to hear their
[1:16:16] thoughts on this.
[1:16:17] But I know that you know
[1:16:18] previously the Port of San
[1:16:18] Diego and the city of San Diego
[1:16:19] have worked in great
[1:16:22] partnership to make sure
[1:16:22] the convention center is
[1:16:23] maintained and the expansions
[1:16:27] that we have been working on
[1:16:28] Your 1996 the Port and the City
[1:16:28] pointed to great powers
[1:16:32] agreement issue $200 million in
[1:16:33] lease revenue bonds to make
[1:16:33] sure the convention center was
[1:16:34] taken care of.
[1:16:37] And I think we're at a point
[1:16:38] now where we need to do a
[1:16:39] similar long term bond again
[1:16:39] for the convention center
[1:16:40] because they are coming to
[1:16:43] the city every budget year
[1:16:44] saying you're $400 million in
[1:16:45] back maintenance that they have
[1:16:48] to do just for the basics of
[1:16:49] the convention center And it's
[1:16:49] one of our big economic revenue
[1:16:50] generators that we share with
[1:16:55] the port And we have been shown
[1:16:56] videos of, you know, folks who
[1:16:56] have booked out room in
[1:16:59] the convention center for
[1:17:00] the convention halls in water
[1:17:01] leaking through the roof onto
[1:17:01] their conventions And nobody
[1:17:05] needs that when we're competing
[1:17:06] with you, Francisco we're
[1:17:07] competing with, you know,
[1:17:07] the other areas.
[1:17:12] And so now that we have finally
[1:17:12] secured the funding of you
[1:17:13] better see to come to the city
[1:17:16] of San Diego to increase to you
[1:17:17] t tax we do have an opportunity
[1:17:18] to leverage that funding and do
[1:17:23] another series of at least back
[1:17:23] revenue bonds or infrastructure
[1:17:24] bonds but it would be really
[1:17:28] wonderful to have the ports
[1:17:28] partnership in that as the city
[1:17:29] had before because as you might
[1:17:33] have seen the cities budget
[1:17:34] deficit isn't the easiest hill
[1:17:34] for us to tackle And so we MAY
[1:17:38] need an additional predator
[1:17:39] like the port to partner with
[1:17:40] us on that but it's to our
[1:17:44] joint benefit And so I'm just
[1:17:45] I'm going to plug you know,
[1:17:46] reprove it to him and say hey,
[1:17:46] you guys need to get on this as
[1:17:47] well.
[1:17:49] But I'm just hoping the port
[1:17:50] would be open to those
[1:17:51] conversations because
[1:17:51] the convention center is a gem
[1:17:54] that we both share.
[1:17:55] So let me just agree with
[1:17:59] everything you said and begin
[1:18:00] by thanking you and the rest of
[1:18:01] the Council for your commitment
[1:18:05] to the recent approval of
[1:18:06] expenditure of some of that
[1:18:10] measure c money for maintenance
[1:18:11] and capital improvement at
[1:18:12] the at the Convention Center As
[1:18:16] you note it's absolutely
[1:18:17] critical and an expansion
[1:18:22] ultimately of could prove to be
[1:18:22] important and a good thing.
[1:18:23] But what has to happen is we
[1:18:27] have to we have to not have
[1:18:28] that tired facility get get
[1:18:28] more tired And so thank you
[1:18:32] very much for for for this
[1:18:33] council's commitment to that.
[1:18:34] And in terms of your question
[1:18:34] about going forward and our
[1:18:37] interest in engaging with you
[1:18:38] on that, the answer is of
[1:18:39] course and we look forward to
[1:18:39] doing it.
[1:18:43] Okay.
[1:18:44] Thank you very much.
[1:18:44] People much smarter than me
[1:18:45] will be leading those
[1:18:45] discussions.
[1:18:46] I just wanted to put it out
[1:18:48] there that something I think
[1:18:49] could benefit all of us
[1:18:50] especially since we finally
[1:18:54] secured the tax revenue on an
[1:18:54] ongoing basis.
[1:18:55] We might as well leverage that.
[1:18:55] So but thank you.
[1:18:59] I'm really excited to see all
[1:19:00] the new projects coming up.
[1:19:01] The Rady Shell is one of my
[1:19:01] favorite projects the city in
[1:19:04] the port and the whole reuse
[1:19:05] done recently So huge kudos to
[1:19:05] that.
[1:19:09] Looking forward to Topgolf and
[1:19:09] everything else So thank you
[1:19:10] again for your work.
[1:19:10] Thank you for representing
[1:19:11] the city of San Diego so well
[1:19:15] on our behalf and we appreciate
[1:19:15] you.
[1:19:15] Thank you.
[1:19:16] All right.
[1:19:16] Thank you.
[1:19:17] Get some more Bombo.
[1:19:20] We'll go next to Councilmember
[1:19:20] Whitman.
[1:19:21] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[1:19:21] Thank you Vice chair is a cat
[1:19:24] and commissioner of rock around
[1:19:25] the commissioner more I was
[1:19:26] quite an update I really
[1:19:30] appreciate you taking the time
[1:19:31] to come in and brief us on all
[1:19:35] that is new and happening and
[1:19:36] particularly within the city of
[1:19:36] San Diego.
[1:19:40] I think it's worth emphasizing
[1:19:41] that the Port of San Diego is
[1:19:42] its own agency, its own
[1:19:45] jurisdiction But the activities
[1:19:46] that you highlighted very
[1:19:51] directly benefit City of San
[1:19:52] Diego residents and people from
[1:19:52] around the region.
[1:19:56] But for our purposes San Diego
[1:19:56] residents you are doing a lot
[1:19:57] of good for the city And you
[1:20:01] look just at some of the things
[1:20:01] right here downtown Freedom
[1:20:02] Park is going to be a beautiful
[1:20:06] new park right along the bay
[1:20:07] downtown you've got Seaport,
[1:20:07] San Diego.
[1:20:11] You were talking about
[1:20:12] The environmental study are
[1:20:13] underway and are underway and
[1:20:17] concluding perhaps by the end
[1:20:17] of the year that is going to be
[1:20:21] just a wonderful addition an
[1:20:22] economic driver to the city.
[1:20:23] Thank goodness those Navy
[1:20:27] office buildings are being
[1:20:27] redeveloped.
[1:20:28] That'll be good to see like
[1:20:31] Pacific Highway.
[1:20:32] You betcha.
[1:20:32] The Maritime Clean Air
[1:20:37] Strategy, the electrification
[1:20:38] of the cruise ship terminal
[1:20:42] that benefits all of us here
[1:20:43] that just the number of cruise
[1:20:44] ship passengers that are
[1:20:47] activating downtown that I just
[1:20:47] very much appreciate what
[1:20:52] the three of you are doing and
[1:20:53] accomplishing as the city of
[1:20:57] San Diego as representatives to
[1:20:58] the Port commission And I want
[1:20:58] to thank the staff leadership
[1:21:02] that's here as well for all
[1:21:03] that they're doing.
[1:21:03] So thank you.
[1:21:04] Thank you for all
[1:21:08] the accomplishments and thank
[1:21:09] you Council PRESIDENT.
[1:21:09] All right.
[1:21:10] Thank you council member for
[1:21:12] not seeing anybody else in
[1:21:13] the lights.
[1:21:13] I'll join the chorus.
[1:21:14] Thank you to commissioners for
[1:21:17] taking the time.
[1:21:17] You know council PRESIDENT I've
[1:21:18] been reviewing our council
[1:21:19] policies and how many boards
[1:21:21] and commissions are supposed to
[1:21:22] report back to the council on a
[1:21:27] regular basis and you all are
[1:21:28] one of the ones that
[1:21:29] consistently come back year
[1:21:29] after year.
[1:21:30] And as Councilmember Moreno
[1:21:32] said, the transparency in not
[1:21:32] only the work that you do every
[1:21:37] day as commissioners as along
[1:21:37] with your regular lives there
[1:21:38] is very much appreciated and
[1:21:42] communicating that to
[1:21:43] the Council and I'm sure to
[1:21:43] the mayor's office that
[1:21:44] the good work that you're doing
[1:21:47] to make sure that we're all
[1:21:48] think of can manage this
[1:21:51] incredible resource that we all
[1:21:58] get to enjoy the projects you
[1:21:59] did I my wife and I had a
[1:21:59] chance to stay at the gallery
[1:22:00] when I was first open and we
[1:22:01] went out, took a walk and
[1:22:02] suddenly we saw this incredible
[1:22:07] renovation and rebuilding of
[1:22:07] the environment coastal sage
[1:22:08] and all that was done to
[1:22:12] the north There really pretty
[1:22:12] spectacular in that commitment
[1:22:13] And I think that really
[1:22:17] highlights what the port is all
[1:22:17] about the good work you do
[1:22:18] every day maybe some people
[1:22:21] will see it, maybe they won't
[1:22:22] but it's the right thing to do
[1:22:23] on on any basis.
[1:22:26] So thank you for that.
[1:22:27] You have an amazing staff that
[1:22:28] gets that work done every day
[1:22:31] and navigates all
[1:22:32] the challenges that the Park
[1:22:36] District faces and has
[1:22:37] navigated us through
[1:22:37] the economic downturn of covid
[1:22:41] and kind of bounced back both
[1:22:42] for the working waterfront but
[1:22:46] also for the port tenants and
[1:22:46] the contribution they make.
[1:22:47] And I'm certainly an important
[1:22:51] part of what the city relies
[1:22:51] on.
[1:22:55] So thank you for that Good work
[1:22:56] and I'll highlight
[1:23:00] the electrification component
[1:23:01] and yeah that there's no free
[1:23:05] lunch But you don't you don't
[1:23:06] turn on a dime when you make
[1:23:06] that environmental commitment.
[1:23:07] It takes time.
[1:23:10] It takes money to make those
[1:23:13] conversions first Electric
[1:23:18] Tugboat the largest and most
[1:23:18] capable electric cranes on
[1:23:23] the West Coast.
[1:23:24] Those are big, big ideas and
[1:23:25] that really shows
[1:23:25] the leadership And then
[1:23:28] the whole blue economy and
[1:23:29] trying to really figure out
[1:23:33] what else can this bay really
[1:23:33] provide as a resources Rather
[1:23:34] extraordinary.
[1:23:37] So thank you for your
[1:23:38] commitment and your willingness
[1:23:39] to continue to lead and I will
[1:23:42] continue to be jealous about
[1:23:43] how fast you can move compared
[1:23:48] to the city and without adding
[1:23:48] excuses As commissioners you
[1:23:49] kept said have you been
[1:23:52] involved in the formation of
[1:23:53] mitigation banks?
[1:23:53] It's serious business and every
[1:23:57] eye has to be dotted and every
[1:23:57] t has to be crossed to make
[1:23:58] sure that those who use
[1:24:01] the mitigation being what it's
[1:24:01] formed really uphold what
[1:24:02] the original vision was.
[1:24:06] So it takes too much time but I
[1:24:07] know you'll get it done.
[1:24:10] So thank you for that Good work
[1:24:10] .
[1:24:11] Thank you To call for my
[1:24:12] colleagues to good work to do
[1:24:12] And again we'll just close by
[1:24:15] saying thank you for taking
[1:24:16] the time to come out this
[1:24:16] afternoon.
[1:24:24] >> Thank you.
[1:24:24] All right.
[1:24:30] So we're now we're going to be
[1:24:31] talking about items two one and
[1:24:32] two two for those items There
[1:24:34] will be a joint presentation
[1:24:35] and combined public comment, a
[1:24:39] separate vote will be taken for
[1:24:43] item 2 or 2 and no motion will
[1:24:44] be required for 2a1 which is
[1:24:44] just strictly information.
[1:24:49] So with that clerk please
[1:24:52] introduce items 201 and 202
[1:24:52] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:24:53] Item two one is the Dam Safety
[1:24:57] Program Annual update 2024 to
[1:24:57] 2025.
[1:25:00] This is an informational item
[1:25:01] and item 2 or 2 is the award of
[1:25:02] the as needed dam design
[1:25:06] services agreements with hdr
[1:25:09] Engineering Inc age 24 2630
[1:25:10] 47-m and Step Stantec
[1:25:15] Consulting Services Inc age 24
[1:25:19] 2634 eight hyphen and six words
[1:25:19] are required pursuant to
[1:25:20] Charter section 99.
[1:25:21] If you'd like to speak on this
[1:25:24] item now's the time to turn in
[1:25:25] your speaker slip or raise your
[1:25:25] hand.
[1:25:26] Star nine I can't Thank you.
[1:25:26] All right.
[1:25:27] Thank you.
[1:25:29] City Clerk With that staff
[1:25:30] please introduce yourselves for
[1:25:31] the record and let us know how
[1:25:31] much time you need for
[1:25:33] the present combined
[1:25:33] presentation.
[1:25:38] Lisa Sliwa came up Kelly Barlow
[1:25:39] Deputy Director Tiffany Kirk
[1:25:43] Assistant Deputy Director And
[1:25:43] we'll need about 20 minutes.
[1:25:44] All right.
[1:25:44] When you're ready.
[1:25:47] Good afternoon.
[1:25:48] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and
[1:25:49] City council members thank you
[1:25:52] for the opportunity to provide
[1:25:53] an update on the City of San
[1:25:57] Diego's Dam safety program.
[1:25:58] Today's presentation will walk
[1:25:58] through the condition of our
[1:26:02] dams and water tanks
[1:26:03] The programmatic approach we
[1:26:03] are using in close coordination
[1:26:07] with our regulator the Division
[1:26:08] of Safety of Dams as well as
[1:26:12] the significant progress made
[1:26:13] over the last over the past
[1:26:13] year to address both immediate
[1:26:17] safety needs and long term
[1:26:18] system resilience.
[1:26:22] As you will see dam safety is
[1:26:22] not a single project or
[1:26:23] timeline.
[1:26:26] It is a sustained parallel
[1:26:27] effort to protect public safety
[1:26:28] Today while planning and
[1:26:32] delivering the long term
[1:26:32] investments required to
[1:26:33] responsibly manage some of
[1:26:35] the oldest infrastructure in
[1:26:40] California.
[1:26:41] >> Dams and water tanks are
[1:26:45] essential infrastructure for
[1:26:46] city water systems as they
[1:26:46] store and deliver water to
[1:26:49] treatment plants provide
[1:26:50] emergency emergency reserves
[1:26:54] during disasters and manage
[1:26:55] flood risk.
[1:26:55] The city's public utilities
[1:26:59] departments dams Safety Program
[1:27:00] oversees 11 dams and two
[1:27:04] portable water tanks which all
[1:27:05] thunder fall all fall under
[1:27:09] the regulatory juristic ssion
[1:27:10] of California Department of
[1:27:10] Water Resources Division of
[1:27:14] Safety of dams typically
[1:27:19] referred to as dsd The public
[1:27:19] Utilities Department
[1:27:20] coordinates daily with the San
[1:27:20] Diego Fire Department to ensure
[1:27:24] our resources are available to
[1:27:24] assist in their efforts
[1:27:28] fighting fires.
[1:27:29] >> To the right you will see
[1:27:30] some of the different types of
[1:27:30] water infrastructure the team
[1:27:33] manages.
[1:27:34] >> Dams are particularly
[1:27:38] crucial as they act as barriers
[1:27:38] creating reservoirs that
[1:27:43] collect and store large volumes
[1:27:43] of water.
[1:27:44] Alongside dams, water tanks
[1:27:48] play a vital role in our water
[1:27:48] supply by providing storage
[1:27:52] capacity, maintaining water
[1:27:53] pressure throughout the network
[1:27:53] and ensuring that treated of
[1:27:57] drinking water remains readily
[1:27:58] available for distribution
[1:27:59] during peak You should usage
[1:28:03] times or in emergency
[1:28:03] situations.
[1:28:07] Our reservoirs, dams and water
[1:28:08] tanks are connected through a
[1:28:09] network of pipelines, channels
[1:28:12] and pump stations which
[1:28:13] facilitate the movement of
[1:28:14] water to drinking water
[1:28:17] treatment facilities and to
[1:28:18] approximately 1.4 million
[1:28:18] customers.
[1:28:22] The water from our reservoirs
[1:28:23] on average makes up to 10 to
[1:28:27] 15% of the city's water supply
[1:28:27] .
[1:28:28] And we've been able to increase
[1:28:31] that to 30% in recent years as
[1:28:32] a result of receiving more
[1:28:36] rainfall and maximize our
[1:28:37] operations.
[1:28:37] As a reminder, water collected
[1:28:41] in our reservoir costs roughly
[1:28:42] $400 per acre foot compared to
[1:28:46] water purchased from our
[1:28:47] wholesaler the San Diego Water
[1:28:50] Authority that cost over $2,600
[1:28:50] per acre foot.
[1:28:51] With that I'll turn over to
[1:28:55] Kelly.
[1:28:55] Thank you, Lisa.
[1:28:59] Dsd has mandated water level
[1:29:00] height restrictions on five
[1:29:00] reservoirs which will remain in
[1:29:04] place until necessary repairs
[1:29:05] and improvements are completed.
[1:29:05] These reservoir restrictions
[1:29:09] marked a fundamental shift for
[1:29:10] our dam safety program.
[1:29:11] Up until this point our program
[1:29:14] was focused primarily on
[1:29:14] routine operations and
[1:29:15] maintenance.
[1:29:15] In coordination with our
[1:29:19] regulator, the Public Utilities
[1:29:20] Department has been working to
[1:29:21] implement and utilize a forward
[1:29:24] looking program at dam safety
[1:29:25] approach.
[1:29:25] What this slide depicts is
[1:29:29] the reality of our work today.
[1:29:30] Dam safety is no longer
[1:29:30] sequential.
[1:29:31] It requires a proactive
[1:29:34] sustained parallel effort where
[1:29:35] continuous assessments,
[1:29:35] inspections, maintenance and
[1:29:40] repair projects are done while
[1:29:40] we simultaneously plan and
[1:29:44] develop a long term risk based
[1:29:44] capital program that will
[1:29:45] fundamentally reshape the dam
[1:29:49] system through rehabilitation
[1:29:50] and replacement and removal
[1:29:54] over the coming decades.
[1:29:55] Pd is continuing to implement a
[1:29:55] nationally recognized dam
[1:29:58] safety standard integrating
[1:29:59] strategic planning with
[1:29:59] comprehensive program
[1:30:00] management to address both
[1:30:04] safety and operational
[1:30:04] challenges.
[1:30:05] This slide shows the components
[1:30:08] included in the comprehensive
[1:30:09] Dam Safety Program which
[1:30:12] include performing
[1:30:12] approximately 400 maintenance
[1:30:13] and inspection activities each
[1:30:16] year, completing 159 condition
[1:30:17] assessments to evaluate
[1:30:21] facility conditions and
[1:30:22] identify near-term interim and
[1:30:22] long term risk reduction
[1:30:23] measures.
[1:30:26] Designing and construction
[1:30:27] Constructing approximately 27
[1:30:28] repair projects.
[1:30:31] And we've identified at least
[1:30:32] three long term improvements.
[1:30:35] We currently estimate that
[1:30:36] approximately $3 billion will
[1:30:37] be needed over the coming
[1:30:37] decades to complete all
[1:30:40] the improvements.
[1:30:41] Building our internal team has
[1:30:41] been a priority.
[1:30:45] We established a dedicated team
[1:30:46] in 2020 and now have 110 team
[1:30:50] members across the city
[1:30:50] focusing on projects that
[1:30:51] address critical deficiencies
[1:30:54] including seismic stability,
[1:30:55] overtopping, concrete
[1:30:59] deterioration and erosion.
[1:31:00] In parallel our last year alone
[1:31:01] pardon me the program oversight
[1:31:03] team grew from 8 to 20 full
[1:31:04] time staff with expertise in
[1:31:04] both engineering and
[1:31:08] environmental.
[1:31:09] >> Our our operations expanded
[1:31:12] from 4 to 6 dedicated crews and
[1:31:13] we doubled our equipment
[1:31:14] resources to be able to deliver
[1:31:16] more work in-house.
[1:31:17] In parallel, the program
[1:31:21] prioritizes ongoing dam safety
[1:31:22] training to build internal
[1:31:22] knowledge.
[1:31:26] But in addition to these
[1:31:26] internal resources, the dam
[1:31:29] safety program also requires
[1:31:30] specialized third party
[1:31:30] expertise due to the complexity
[1:31:34] and long term nature of
[1:31:34] the projects involved.
[1:31:35] All of these resource
[1:31:39] resourcing efforts combined
[1:31:39] enable us to meet increasingly
[1:31:40] complex and evolving dam safety
[1:31:43] requirements.
[1:31:44] Without proper resourcing Puti
[1:31:48] would not be in a position to
[1:31:49] proactively manage risk as
[1:31:50] opposed to reacting to findings
[1:31:53] from our regulator.
[1:31:53] Understanding the condition of
[1:31:58] our dams and water tanks is
[1:31:59] critical to informing risk
[1:31:59] based decisions on maintenance
[1:32:02] repair and long term
[1:32:03] investments to protect
[1:32:03] downstream communities and
[1:32:04] water supply.
[1:32:07] We are making significant
[1:32:08] progress and completing
[1:32:09] assessments for our highest
[1:32:12] risk and poorest condition dams
[1:32:12] .
[1:32:13] To date we have completed 60
[1:32:17] condition assessments with an
[1:32:17] additional 13 currently in
[1:32:18] progress and the remaining
[1:32:21] assessments plan through
[1:32:21] the year 2032.
[1:32:22] >> Shown here are pictures of
[1:32:22] helicopter supported
[1:32:26] geotechnical drilling and
[1:32:27] investigations completed last
[1:32:27] year at Lower Otay and Barrett
[1:32:31] Dam.
[1:32:31] Helicopter access is required
[1:32:32] due to the steep terrain
[1:32:35] limited access and sensitive
[1:32:36] environmental resources.
[1:32:37] These investigations provide
[1:32:41] critical information on
[1:32:41] foundation conditions, help
[1:32:42] confirm future design
[1:32:45] assumptions and support
[1:32:46] evaluations of whether the dams
[1:32:46] can meet modern safety
[1:32:50] standards.
[1:32:51] >> While we continue to advance
[1:32:55] long term planning, near-term
[1:32:55] repairs and maintenance
[1:32:56] projects are needed.
[1:32:59] Over the past year we've
[1:33:00] completed numerous repairs to
[1:33:01] address known deficiencies.
[1:33:04] These included clearing
[1:33:05] the lower portion of
[1:33:05] the spillway at El Capitan Dam
[1:33:08] to restore hydraulic capacity.
[1:33:09] Completing vault and valve
[1:33:10] improvements at Miramar Dam to
[1:33:14] improve reservoir operability.
[1:33:15] Repairing handrails at Barrett
[1:33:16] and Lower Otay Dams to support
[1:33:19] crew access for inspections and
[1:33:20] maintenance.
[1:33:20] Looking ahead, 14 repair
[1:33:24] projects are currently in
[1:33:25] design to upgrade monitoring
[1:33:29] systems repair concrete improve
[1:33:29] outlet works, remove vegetation
[1:33:33] and strengthen security for
[1:33:34] additional projects are in
[1:33:35] planning to address intake
[1:33:35] restorations and emergency
[1:33:38] drawdown requirements.
[1:33:39] And construction on five
[1:33:40] projects will begin this
[1:33:43] upcoming calendar year.
[1:33:43] Additionally, our operations
[1:33:48] team actively manages Reservoir
[1:33:49] levels to stay below desired
[1:33:49] mandated thresholds and has
[1:33:50] made important system
[1:33:53] improvements including faster
[1:33:54] reporting of field issues, real
[1:33:58] time monitoring of raw water
[1:33:59] reservoirs through the one rain
[1:33:59] system and the first ever use
[1:34:03] of high resolution lighter at
[1:34:04] El Capitan and Marina Dams to
[1:34:04] support ongoing monitoring and
[1:34:08] movement of surface changes.
[1:34:09] >> As always we are working to
[1:34:13] balance critical infrastructure
[1:34:13] needs with affordability for
[1:34:14] our ratepayers.
[1:34:18] Program funding comes from
[1:34:18] the Water Utility Capital
[1:34:19] Improvement Program and water
[1:34:22] operating funds And as future
[1:34:23] costs are refined they will be
[1:34:23] reflected in party's annual
[1:34:24] five year financial outlook
[1:34:27] which informs the city's water
[1:34:27] rate setting process.
[1:34:32] We continue to proactively
[1:34:32] pursue state and federal
[1:34:33] funding opportunities to help
[1:34:37] reduce costs for ratepayers.
[1:34:37] To date $1.7 million in state
[1:34:38] and federal funding has been
[1:34:41] secured for ongoing initiatives
[1:34:42] including seismic stability
[1:34:43] analysis and geotechnical
[1:34:47] investigations at El Capitan,
[1:34:47] Berrett and Hodges Dams as
[1:34:48] shown on the pictures to
[1:34:51] the right.
[1:34:51] >> In total the city has
[1:34:55] applied for approximately $322
[1:34:55] million in external funding
[1:34:59] including $77 million in grant
[1:34:59] funding and selection by
[1:35:00] the U.S. Army Corps of
[1:35:01] Engineers to submit a full
[1:35:04] application for $241 million
[1:35:05] and low cost loan financing.
[1:35:08] Financing for dam improvement
[1:35:13] projects through the year 2031
[1:35:13] .
[1:35:14] >> This slide shows a strategic
[1:35:18] phasing plan to address dam
[1:35:18] safety across all 13 dso
[1:35:19] deregulated facilities based on
[1:35:23] available financing.
[1:35:24] At the top of the timeline.
[1:35:25] Each facility is shown with its
[1:35:28] dso condition rating.
[1:35:29] In the year we plan to complete
[1:35:30] long term improvement plans.
[1:35:34] Dams in fair or unsatisfactory
[1:35:36] condition are addressed first
[1:35:37] followed by facilities in
[1:35:38] satisfactory condition in later
[1:35:38] years.
[1:35:42] In addition to facility
[1:35:42] condition, the timing of
[1:35:43] the long term improvement
[1:35:46] planning considers factors such
[1:35:47] as downstream risk required
[1:35:47] water level restrictions.
[1:35:51] The role of each reservoir in
[1:35:52] the water supply system and
[1:35:53] coordination with the city's
[1:35:53] pure water program.
[1:35:56] At the bottom of this timeline
[1:35:57] are the program level efforts
[1:35:57] that guide system wide
[1:36:01] decisions.
[1:36:01] This work begins with updating
[1:36:02] the water model to identify
[1:36:05] the most critical reservoirs
[1:36:06] for long term water supply.
[1:36:06] >> Supporting is goal of
[1:36:09] increasing local water use to
[1:36:14] 60% by the year 2040.
[1:36:15] >> In 2028 we plan to complete
[1:36:18] a program plan to help manage
[1:36:19] risk and in 2032 we will have
[1:36:20] the data and plans in place to
[1:36:23] develop a strategic capital
[1:36:23] improvement phasing plan that
[1:36:24] sequences work across
[1:36:28] the system for decades to come.
[1:36:28] This information together with
[1:36:29] condition assessments and long
[1:36:32] term improvement plans will
[1:36:33] give us a comprehensive and
[1:36:34] holistic understanding of which
[1:36:37] reservoirs are most critical.
[1:36:38] Where long term infrastructure
[1:36:38] investments provide
[1:36:39] the greatest value allowing us
[1:36:42] to strategically strategically
[1:36:43] phase dam safety improvements
[1:36:46] over time.
[1:36:47] >> This planning is happening
[1:36:48] alongside active projects with
[1:36:50] repairs moving forward to keep
[1:36:51] our dams safe and operational.
[1:36:52] While long term strategic
[1:36:55] planning efforts are underway
[1:36:56] so we know we cannot replace or
[1:37:01] upgrade all of our high risk
[1:37:01] dams at the same time.
[1:37:02] These projects are large
[1:37:06] complex taking many years to
[1:37:07] plan, fund design and build.
[1:37:11] >> Because of this we're using
[1:37:12] a phased risk based approach.
[1:37:16] >> Long term improvements are
[1:37:17] prioritized and sequenced over
[1:37:17] time while interim repairs are
[1:37:20] done to manage safety until
[1:37:21] permanent solutions are
[1:37:25] delivered.
[1:37:26] >> City Council's prior
[1:37:26] approval of our as needed
[1:37:30] Program Management agreement
[1:37:30] allows us to assess dam
[1:37:31] conditions, set priorities and
[1:37:35] plan this work in phases as
[1:37:36] shown on the left side of
[1:37:36] the slide.
[1:37:37] However that agreement supports
[1:37:41] planning and assessments only.
[1:37:41] It does not include
[1:37:42] the designer construction
[1:37:44] oversight services needed to
[1:37:45] implement repair projects.
[1:37:46] The next step is securing new
[1:37:50] as needed dam design service
[1:37:50] agreements.
[1:37:51] So priority dam safety projects
[1:37:55] can move forward from planning
[1:37:55] into design and construction
[1:37:59] helping to avoid emergency
[1:38:00] driven actions and to ensure
[1:38:00] steady responsible progress.
[1:38:05] Without these design service
[1:38:06] contracts we would be unable to
[1:38:06] move forward immediately with
[1:38:10] critical dam safety repair
[1:38:10] projects.
[1:38:14] Shown on this slide are some
[1:38:15] examples of upcoming dam safety
[1:38:16] projects at Murray Sutherland
[1:38:18] and Lower Otay Dams that
[1:38:19] require design work before
[1:38:23] the projects can move forward.
[1:38:24] >> While long term improvements
[1:38:25] are being implemented, a
[1:38:29] process that can take decades.
[1:38:29] Interim projects are needed to
[1:38:33] manage risks and maintain
[1:38:33] regulatory compliance.
[1:38:34] Examples of projects include
[1:38:38] seismic upgrades to Murray
[1:38:39] Outlet Tower and Dam structure
[1:38:43] intake and outlet improvements
[1:38:43] at Sutherland Reservoir.
[1:38:48] Concrete repairs at lower Otay
[1:38:49] to main structural to maintain
[1:38:49] structural integrity and safe
[1:38:52] access all of these projects.
[1:38:53] >> These projects range from
[1:38:57] smaller but critical repairs
[1:38:58] around $80 million to major
[1:38:59] rehabilitation projects costing
[1:39:03] upwards of 40 to $80 million.
[1:39:03] From initial studies through
[1:39:07] design, environmental review
[1:39:08] permitting and construction
[1:39:11] individual dam safety projects
[1:39:12] can take 7 to 10 years or more
[1:39:16] to deliver.
[1:39:16] That brings us to the action
[1:39:17] item for your consideration
[1:39:17] today.
[1:39:21] Pd is proposing 210 year as
[1:39:22] needed dam design services
[1:39:22] contracts.
[1:39:26] Each in an amount not to exceed
[1:39:27] $75 million.
[1:39:28] It's important to note this
[1:39:31] work was included in the water
[1:39:32] rates Council approved last
[1:39:36] year is in this budget as well
[1:39:36] as our five year outlook.
[1:39:37] Council will hear an annual dam
[1:39:40] safety update and have an
[1:39:41] opportunity during each budget
[1:39:42] and five year outlook process
[1:39:45] as well as any future rate case
[1:39:46] to receive additional
[1:39:47] information on this program and
[1:39:50] its associated spending.
[1:39:51] Highly skilled experts in dam
[1:39:55] design and engineering,
[1:39:56] environmental compliance and
[1:39:56] construction support will
[1:39:57] complement the strong internal
[1:40:00] team we have built.
[1:40:00] The proposed contract duration
[1:40:01] and amount are based on
[1:40:04] detailed engineering estimates
[1:40:05] and historical data aligning
[1:40:06] with the extensive time frame
[1:40:09] needed for specialized dam
[1:40:10] repair and rehabilitation
[1:40:14] projects long term as needed
[1:40:15] Design agreements ensure
[1:40:19] continuity of expertise,
[1:40:20] regulatory coordination and
[1:40:20] timely delivery of required
[1:40:24] critical dam safety work.
[1:40:24] >> The rfp selection process
[1:40:28] began in 2020 for two firms hdr
[1:40:29] and stantec were selected as
[1:40:32] the preferred providers
[1:40:32] following a qualifications
[1:40:33] based selection.
[1:40:34] Both firms would work on a
[1:40:37] rotating basis task order basis
[1:40:38] ensuring fairness and
[1:40:38] consistent access to dam design
[1:40:42] expertise.
[1:40:43] Listed on this slide are
[1:40:43] the services the agreements
[1:40:47] will provide including dam
[1:40:48] engineering analysis, design
[1:40:48] development permit and
[1:40:52] regulatory coordination,
[1:40:53] environmental planning and
[1:40:53] construction phase engineering
[1:40:57] support.
[1:40:58] The consultants will support
[1:40:58] the study delivery of
[1:40:59] maintenance repair and
[1:41:02] rehabilitation projects for
[1:41:03] spillways outlets and dam
[1:41:07] structures.
[1:41:08] Pd is requesting your approval
[1:41:11] of 210 year as needed dam
[1:41:12] design services agreements with
[1:41:12] hdr and Stantec each in an
[1:41:17] amount not to exceed $75
[1:41:17] million funded through
[1:41:18] the water utilities ip and
[1:41:22] operating fund and included
[1:41:22] within both the recently
[1:41:25] approved water rates and
[1:41:26] periods five five year outlook.
[1:41:27] Each agreement would carry a
[1:41:29] minimum spend of $1,000.
[1:41:30] These agreements are essential
[1:41:34] for delivering critical dam
[1:41:35] safety projects ensuring that
[1:41:36] our dams and water tanks remain
[1:41:39] safe, reliable and compliant
[1:41:40] with dsd requirements while
[1:41:41] continuing to meet community
[1:41:44] needs for decades to come.
[1:41:45] Importantly, these are as
[1:41:45] needed agreements.
[1:41:49] There is no obligation to use
[1:41:50] the full contract amount.
[1:41:50] The work is authorized only
[1:41:54] through individual task orders
[1:41:55] even if the full value were
[1:41:55] utilized over the ten year
[1:41:55] term.
[1:41:56] It would equate to
[1:41:59] approximately $7.5 million per
[1:41:59] year.
[1:42:04] Each contract this provides us
[1:42:04] long term flexibility rather
[1:42:05] than a single upfront
[1:42:05] commitment.
[1:42:09] Your support for these four
[1:42:10] the ordinances requested today
[1:42:13] for approval of the two as
[1:42:13] needed dam design services
[1:42:14] agreements will help us
[1:42:17] continue to safeguard our water
[1:42:18] infrastructure, protect
[1:42:18] the public, meet our regulatory
[1:42:22] requirements and enhance
[1:42:22] the resilience and
[1:42:23] sustainability of our water
[1:42:23] system.
[1:42:27] We thank you for your
[1:42:28] consideration and we are here
[1:42:28] to answer any questions you MAY
[1:42:31] have.
[1:42:31] All right.
[1:42:32] Thank you very much for
[1:42:33] the presentation And with that.
[1:42:36] Clerk Please proceed with
[1:42:36] public comment.
[1:42:37] Thank you.
[1:42:37] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:42:38] We have several speakers here
[1:42:41] and online.
[1:42:42] Rhonda Farrar If you come
[1:42:43] please come forward.
[1:42:43] You'll have time ceded to you
[1:42:46] by Mary Ellen Lee here If you
[1:42:47] can please raise your hand.
[1:42:48] Thank you so much.
[1:42:51] And if I can have the following
[1:42:51] individuals please come forward
[1:42:52] to the other reserved seats.
[1:42:56] Monique Glacier Steve Lazar and
[1:42:57] Robert Dudley.
[1:42:57] If you can all please come out
[1:43:00] to the other reserved seats.
[1:43:01] You will have two minutes for
[1:43:01] item 201.
[1:43:05] Please proceed when ready.
[1:43:05] Good afternoon.
[1:43:06] Honorable Council PRESIDENT
[1:43:10] Council members and City Staff.
[1:43:11] My name is Rhonda Farrar and
[1:43:11] I'm PRESIDENT Of the Friends of
[1:43:15] Lake Hodges whose mission is to
[1:43:16] support local government
[1:43:16] efforts to improve Lake Hodges
[1:43:19] Dam safety and capacity.
[1:43:20] Water quality wildlife habitat
[1:43:24] and public access for
[1:43:25] the benefit of our community.
[1:43:26] For over a hundred years Lake
[1:43:29] Hodges has been a crown jewel
[1:43:30] in North County a vital
[1:43:30] drinking water reservoir, a
[1:43:34] critical habitat for wildlife
[1:43:35] and a recreational haven for
[1:43:35] hikers, birders, fishermen and
[1:43:39] paddlers.
[1:43:40] But the dam that makes this
[1:43:41] lake possible is currently
[1:43:43] unsafe and in danger of
[1:43:44] failing.
[1:43:44] Council members This is not a
[1:43:45] future problem.
[1:43:46] This is a current crisis.
[1:43:48] The existing dam is 108 years
[1:43:49] old and deemed unsatisfactory
[1:43:49] by the dsd.
[1:43:53] It is the worst It's in
[1:43:54] the worst shape of all the dams
[1:43:55] in California which is why
[1:43:58] the state has mandated
[1:43:59] construction begin by 2029.
[1:44:03] While we applaud the city's
[1:44:03] plan to evaluate all the dams
[1:44:04] in San Diego, it is most
[1:44:05] concerning that the current
[1:44:08] study of the Lake Hodges
[1:44:08] alternatives is now expected to
[1:44:09] be delayed until the end of
[1:44:12] the year.
[1:44:13] Lake Hodges has the largest
[1:44:16] watershed in San Diego.
[1:44:17] One inch of rain can raise
[1:44:18] the lake and the entire lake a
[1:44:18] foot.
[1:44:21] There is too much building
[1:44:22] downstream in Rancho Santa Fe
[1:44:23] and the other communities there
[1:44:27] for there not to be a dam for
[1:44:27] flood control.
[1:44:28] We need a new dam.
[1:44:28] If the dam fails tomorrow
[1:44:31] downstream communities would be
[1:44:31] flooded.
[1:44:32] Lake Hodges would become a
[1:44:35] stagnant pool of wildlife that
[1:44:36] and the wildlife that inhabit
[1:44:36] the lake would die.
[1:44:37] We would lose the ability to
[1:44:41] provide water to the Rancho
[1:44:42] Santa Fe and find a little
[1:44:42] water districts.
[1:44:45] The San Diego Lagoon which
[1:44:46] taxpayers have spent millions
[1:44:46] of dollars restoring would dry
[1:44:50] up decimating the wetlands and
[1:44:50] endangered bird populations
[1:44:51] that depend on it.
[1:44:53] And the $208 million pumped
[1:44:54] storage facility our region's
[1:44:58] largest battery for clean
[1:44:58] energy would be rendered
[1:44:59] useless.
[1:44:59] We would lose the ability to
[1:45:00] move water where it's needed
[1:45:03] during a drought.
[1:45:04] A new dawn needs to be
[1:45:05] designed, funded and built as
[1:45:05] soon as possible.
[1:45:08] Is the best source of drinking
[1:45:09] water for downstream water
[1:45:10] districts and the lowest cost
[1:45:14] water available to the region.
[1:45:15] >> Although the water authority
[1:45:15] does not care for that comment.
[1:45:17] I thought four minutes.
[1:45:18] You have two minutes.
[1:45:19] You had one person set your
[1:45:19] time.
[1:45:21] You only submitted four Item
[1:45:22] 201 Did you want to speak to
[1:45:24] item 2 or 2 as well?
[1:45:25] Can I finish please continue.
[1:45:29] I just have another minute.
[1:45:30] Um a new down needs to be
[1:45:30] designed, funded and built as
[1:45:31] soon as possible Is the best
[1:45:33] source of drinking water for
[1:45:34] downstream water districts and
[1:45:35] the lowest cost of water
[1:45:38] available to the region.
[1:45:39] Although the Water authority
[1:45:40] does not currently believe it
[1:45:40] needs the water in Lake Hodges
[1:45:43] for the regions that is likely
[1:45:44] to change over the hundred year
[1:45:45] life Its life expectancy of a
[1:45:48] new dam.
[1:45:49] The new dam needs to be at
[1:45:49] least of sufficient height to
[1:45:50] allow the transfer of water to
[1:45:52] the rest of the region's water
[1:45:53] supply and for the billions of
[1:45:54] gallons of water a precious
[1:45:58] rainwater to not be released to
[1:45:59] the ocean for the next hundred
[1:45:59] years.
[1:46:02] The friends of Lake Hodges
[1:46:03] represents thousands of
[1:46:04] residents who use this lake.
[1:46:04] We're asking you to prioritize
[1:46:07] the safety and reliability for
[1:46:08] our region.
[1:46:08] We're asking you to direct
[1:46:09] staff to expedite the design
[1:46:12] building and construction
[1:46:13] process to meet the state's
[1:46:13] 2029 deadline for construction.
[1:46:18] We ask you to collaborate with
[1:46:18] the city, county and federal
[1:46:22] governments to secure funding
[1:46:22] for this project.
[1:46:23] Every month we wait,
[1:46:23] construction costs rise and
[1:46:26] the risk of catastrophic
[1:46:27] failure increases.
[1:46:27] We are gambling with a critical
[1:46:28] piece of our instruction
[1:46:32] infrastructure.
[1:46:32] Should this dam fail, the cost
[1:46:33] of building a new down would
[1:46:36] increase exponentially than
[1:46:37] the cost of replacing the dam
[1:46:37] now with existing down in
[1:46:38] place.
[1:46:41] Let's not wait for disaster.
[1:46:42] Let's prevent it.
[1:46:43] On behalf of the thousands who
[1:46:46] live work and play around Lake
[1:46:46] Hodges, I urge you to direct
[1:46:47] staff to expedite this project.
[1:46:50] Let's get this done.
[1:46:51] >> Thank you.
[1:46:51] Thank you.
[1:46:54] Next is Monique.
[1:46:57] You're speaking on item 2 or 2
[1:46:58] .
[1:46:58] You'll have one minute.
[1:47:03] Please proceed.
[1:47:04] My name is Monique Lesher and
[1:47:06] I'm representing Ray's Lake
[1:47:07] Hodges and 80,000 San Diegans
[1:47:12] and an entire wetlands
[1:47:12] ecosystem.
[1:47:13] As someone who's worked for
[1:47:16] environmental organizations for
[1:47:17] most of my life, I'm happy to
[1:47:18] see your devotion to
[1:47:18] the environment.
[1:47:22] But Lake Hodges is a
[1:47:23] environmental tragedy waiting
[1:47:26] to happen.
[1:47:27] We support a new dam but
[1:47:30] the city budget clearly does
[1:47:31] not support a $300 million
[1:47:32] repair replacement any time
[1:47:32] soon.
[1:47:40] So in the meantime, Lake Hodges
[1:47:40] remains at 280ft.
[1:47:41] That's roughly 16% capacity And
[1:47:45] the sand to Gila River Valley
[1:47:46] is paying the price.
[1:47:46] The lake is not just a
[1:47:46] reservoir.
[1:47:50] It's wildlife corridor.
[1:47:50] It's a wetland ecosystem and it
[1:47:51] is a fire buffer.
[1:47:55] There has been no environmental
[1:47:59] impact upstream of the dam and
[1:48:00] the lake bed is drying out.
[1:48:04] The grabs there used to be Wow,
[1:48:05] that was fast.
[1:48:05] >> All right.
[1:48:06] Thank you.
[1:48:10] Thank you.
[1:48:10] The timer is there in
[1:48:11] the corner so you can monitor
[1:48:11] your time.
[1:48:12] Steve Leisure your speaking on
[1:48:18] item 202.
[1:48:18] Hello.
[1:48:19] My name is Steve Lush.
[1:48:22] I'm also part of the Hodges
[1:48:22] gang here.
[1:48:23] I just want to talk a little
[1:48:26] bit about the unintended cost
[1:48:27] you know the cascade of cost
[1:48:31] that's involved in this.
[1:48:32] So what happens is our property
[1:48:36] taxes are elevated because
[1:48:37] the amount of the our home
[1:48:37] values actually continues to
[1:48:41] decrease.
[1:48:41] A great example that would be
[1:48:42] the Pacific Palisades
[1:48:43] The tragedy tragedies happened
[1:48:45] there More than 90% of
[1:48:46] the people have yet to receive
[1:48:47] any insurance and
[1:48:51] the California fire plan less
[1:48:51] than 10% have received
[1:48:51] anything.
[1:48:52] Those that have have only
[1:48:56] received an average of 10% of
[1:48:57] what they file for were next in
[1:48:57] line for that to happen.
[1:49:01] So the cost of property taxes
[1:49:02] are inappropriate and our
[1:49:05] property taxes California for
[1:49:06] our plan says no our properties
[1:49:07] are worth less.
[1:49:12] In addition our water costs are
[1:49:17] higher borrowing rates are
[1:49:17] higher, there's no competition.
[1:49:18] Selling our properties will be
[1:49:22] harder for most of our property
[1:49:22] we can't get insurance for.
[1:49:23] >> So anyway there's a lot of
[1:49:24] cascade effects that go on.
[1:49:24] Thank you for that concluding
[1:49:34] comment Robert Good afternoon.
[1:49:35] I'm Robert Dudley and I am
[1:49:39] the city of San Diego as my
[1:49:40] closest neighbor I also am on
[1:49:44] the cac council which I
[1:49:44] appreciate the patience and and
[1:49:49] contribution of Council
[1:49:50] PRESIDENT Lacob and and
[1:49:53] Councilmember Wilbur I brought
[1:49:54] this up probably two years ago
[1:49:59] and in that time we have lost
[1:50:03] we've lost opportunity.
[1:50:03] The big difference is what
[1:50:06] happened in L.A. The fires of
[1:50:11] L.A. Have changed everything.
[1:50:12] Last week the mayor directed
[1:50:16] the pound of flesh more
[1:50:17] precious water, local water
[1:50:17] downstream to the ocean.
[1:50:18] While the city has done nothing
[1:50:22] to address dam conditions for
[1:50:22] years.
[1:50:26] So I stand in favor of
[1:50:26] the action now before us.
[1:50:27] Repair and replacement of
[1:50:28] the dam Restoring the city's
[1:50:31] commitment to the emergency
[1:50:31] storage project.
[1:50:36] Empirically there has been MAY
[1:50:39] be extending an additional two
[1:50:40] minutes for 2 or 1 It would be
[1:50:41] an additional minute for 2a1.
[1:50:45] Thank you.
[1:50:48] See So there has been no major
[1:50:52] dam collapse in California
[1:50:53] since 1928.
[1:50:53] At the same time we've seen
[1:50:58] increases in the risk of fire
[1:50:58] throughout California.
[1:51:03] This body must recognize that
[1:51:03] urban wildfire represents
[1:51:04] the greatest acceptance of
[1:51:07] natural threat to the citizens
[1:51:07] of San Diego.
[1:51:10] The Palisades and Altadena
[1:51:11] Fires of 2025 and the Camp Fire
[1:51:15] of 20 2018 Collective only
[1:51:18] resulted in 116 deaths 255,000
[1:51:23] displaced citizens and more
[1:51:23] than 34,000 structures
[1:51:27] destroyed with a loss of $16
[1:51:27] billion.
[1:51:28] What have we learned?
[1:51:32] In the interim the incident
[1:51:32] captains reported that each
[1:51:33] that each situation the fires
[1:51:37] were behaving like they'd never
[1:51:38] seen before.
[1:51:38] Fires are different than they
[1:51:42] were in past years.
[1:51:43] So we really need to address
[1:51:44] this And I would support I
[1:51:47] would run that said that we
[1:51:48] really need to look at
[1:51:48] replacement of this dam.
[1:51:52] And in the meantime your time
[1:51:53] has expired.
[1:51:53] Thank you.
[1:51:54] Thank you.
[1:51:56] I started the five minute timer
[1:51:56] going to those that does
[1:51:57] conclude public comment here in
[1:51:58] council chambers.
[1:52:00] I've started the five minute
[1:52:00] timer going to those
[1:52:01] participating remotely.
[1:52:02] We currently have four speakers
[1:52:02] in the queue.
[1:52:06] Please be sure to let me know
[1:52:06] which item or items you wish to
[1:52:07] speak to when I unmute you.
[1:52:09] John Stump If you can please
[1:52:09] unmute.
[1:52:10] >> Thank you.
[1:52:15] I'm speaking about items two.
[1:52:15] >> You'll have two minutes one
[1:52:16] minute each.
[1:52:16] Please proceed.
[1:52:17] Thank you.
[1:52:19] I support this item.
[1:52:20] I'm particularly concerned
[1:52:24] about the dam called Troilus.
[1:52:28] The dam called Troilus is
[1:52:29] the City Park Choice Lake.
[1:52:32] This dam is more than 110 years
[1:52:33] old of a unique type.
[1:52:38] No longer built And if it
[1:52:42] failed it would flood to
[1:52:43] the San Diego Bay, endanger
[1:52:46] some 5000 homes and 10,000
[1:52:47] sleeping residents.
[1:52:51] You have engineers on your
[1:52:55] council and they could look at
[1:52:56] the structure This dam it's
[1:53:00] very strange.
[1:53:05] What I ask is that the council
[1:53:11] look into opportunities to fill
[1:53:15] Troilus Lake instead of with
[1:53:16] potable water which it's doing
[1:53:20] now but with either using pure
[1:53:25] water or storm water.
[1:53:26] Finally if you look at
[1:53:30] the staff report, nowhere in
[1:53:31] the staff report do they talk
[1:53:34] about the stakeholders as being
[1:53:39] parks and Recreation and
[1:53:40] the recreation councils and
[1:53:44] the community councils.
[1:53:45] We need the staff reports in
[1:53:50] the future and this contract to
[1:53:54] consult with parks and
[1:53:54] Recreation concerning Troilus
[1:53:59] Lake Dam.
[1:53:59] >> Thank you very much.
[1:54:00] Keep us safe.
[1:54:03] Thank you.
[1:54:04] Next is phone number ending in
[1:54:05] 8700.
[1:54:09] If you can do sorry if you can
[1:54:09] please unmute.
[1:54:23] 8700 apologies 8700 I have sent
[1:54:25] you to unmute your press star
[1:54:30] six to unmute.
[1:54:30] Hello.
[1:54:30] Yes hello.
[1:54:31] Are you speaking?
[1:54:35] Can you hear me?
[1:54:36] Yes I can hear you.
[1:54:39] Okay well I did the story six
[1:54:40] both times perfectly so I don't
[1:54:43] know what happened.
[1:54:44] 50 City Clerk I will be doing
[1:54:44] both items.
[1:54:44] Thank you.
[1:54:47] Please proceed.
[1:54:52] Um, first of all Pudi and and
[1:54:53] you know everyone involved in
[1:54:57] this.
[1:54:58] You have my full support.
[1:54:58] This is a mess.
[1:55:02] But to put that behind us we've
[1:55:03] got what we've got Now you have
[1:55:06] my full support.
[1:55:09] The Colorado River Aqueduct is
[1:55:10] 42 miles long.
[1:55:11] It provides 50 to 60% of our
[1:55:11] water.
[1:55:15] Local dams such as Lake Hodges.
[1:55:19] Thank you speakers for speaking
[1:55:20] up for Lake Hodges.
[1:55:20] Love you.
[1:55:24] So Lake Hodges and the other
[1:55:25] dams act as critical storage
[1:55:29] for this important water.
[1:55:34] Blending it with local runoff
[1:55:34] to supply the city with
[1:55:35] the water we need.
[1:55:39] Dam safety equals ongoing
[1:55:39] maintenance.
[1:55:43] Deferred maintenance is not
[1:55:43] safe.
[1:55:44] It creates high risk.
[1:55:48] As I said, this whole thing
[1:55:53] the whole water supply system
[1:55:53] it's a mess.
[1:55:54] But let let's look for
[1:55:58] the opportunities and let's go
[1:55:59] there and do it whatever we
[1:55:59] need to do.
[1:56:03] Now you have my full support
[1:56:04] and I just love all of you.
[1:56:07] This is really tough work.
[1:56:07] Okay.
[1:56:08] Until two quite a lot of
[1:56:13] the under-representation is
[1:56:13] there in both hdr and Stantec
[1:56:18] Both.
[1:56:18] Both companies do report
[1:56:22] progress in reducing
[1:56:23] the under-representation.
[1:56:24] So I was glad to see that
[1:56:24] statement.
[1:56:27] But I'm really really not happy
[1:56:28] with seeing how much is
[1:56:32] underrepresented Asian
[1:56:32] represented.
[1:56:33] So I was confused by the tbd
[1:56:37] that to be decided They were
[1:56:42] all over the eeoc report.
[1:56:42] And I've never seen that before
[1:56:43] ever.
[1:56:46] So I don't know what that's all
[1:56:46] about.
[1:56:47] But in any case water, water,
[1:56:51] water your time has concluded.
[1:56:52] My apologies Hector, if you can
[1:56:56] please unmute.
[1:56:56] That also concludes the five
[1:56:57] minute timer.
[1:56:57] We have two additional
[1:56:58] speakers.
[1:57:00] No other speakers will be taken
[1:57:00] .
[1:57:01] Hector, please let me know
[1:57:02] which items you wish to speak
[1:57:02] to.
[1:57:06] I'd like to speak to both of
[1:57:06] them.
[1:57:07] Thanks for taking my call this
[1:57:07] time.
[1:57:11] Well, ma'am, when you listen
[1:57:11] when you listen to this when I
[1:57:12] listen to this, you guys are
[1:57:16] way over your head on this man.
[1:57:17] Here's five years.
[1:57:17] You guys can't even figure out
[1:57:20] a parking meter And the roof
[1:57:21] leaks at the convention center
[1:57:25] for months and you can't hire a
[1:57:25] couple of roofers.
[1:57:26] You guys are way over your
[1:57:26] head.
[1:57:29] I think the Lake Hodges lady
[1:57:30] should contract a private
[1:57:34] investor to build a dam for
[1:57:34] profit.
[1:57:38] Give them the water rights and
[1:57:39] give them the electric
[1:57:40] generator at the bottom.
[1:57:40] They could generate
[1:57:41] electricity.
[1:57:44] Negotiate a rates through
[1:57:44] the water.
[1:57:48] Let him on the dam and he could
[1:57:48] build a dam like 20ft higher
[1:57:52] than it is State of the art
[1:57:53] Like a 50 yards a hundred yards
[1:57:57] below the other dam and water
[1:57:58] rose up 20ft above the existing
[1:58:02] dam and leave it and everyone
[1:58:03] would be cool.
[1:58:04] It's just a matter of
[1:58:04] negotiating.
[1:58:07] Talk to the back door.
[1:58:08] What's up big company Big time
[1:58:09] Guys can build the dam They
[1:58:12] design it, they build it, they
[1:58:13] own it and we'll let them and
[1:58:17] we'll let them charge for
[1:58:17] water.
[1:58:18] Give us a discount rate on
[1:58:19] the water and power that it
[1:58:22] generates over time over 100
[1:58:22] years.
[1:58:23] There could be some guys
[1:58:27] that'll do it big time dudes
[1:58:27] and know how to build dams
[1:58:31] instead of having the and
[1:58:32] the other other guys don't even
[1:58:32] talk about Lake Hodges.
[1:58:37] Look at the other dams There's
[1:58:38] so many other dams can look at
[1:58:40] because if you study they cause
[1:58:41] you know it's got to go and we
[1:58:42] got to get some make it
[1:58:45] profitable for somebody just
[1:58:46] build it and you know they
[1:58:50] build it huge It'll be a great
[1:58:51] investment and the city won't
[1:58:51] need to touch it.
[1:58:55] Cities just wasting their money
[1:58:55] looking at it they don't got
[1:58:56] the money.
[1:58:59] They don't even have The money
[1:59:00] is it's not even there.
[1:59:04] Thanks a lot.
[1:59:05] Our next speaker is Blair
[1:59:05] Beekman.
[1:59:09] If you can please unmute.
[1:59:14] Okay that's perfect.
[1:59:15] I hope you can hear me.
[1:59:16] I think it's going to be really
[1:59:19] bad today I'm on an airplane
[1:59:20] headed back to San Diego from
[1:59:24] Maui.
[1:59:29] Um typically after uh we're
[1:59:29] talking on both items work
[1:59:38] after Yes yes, Yes, ma'am.
[1:59:38] Please get in here.
[1:59:39] Yes, sir.
[1:59:39] It's okay.
[1:59:39] Okay.
[1:59:43] I have to hang up now.
[1:59:47] Lake Yes, I offer I've got a
[1:59:48] good for San Diego's going up
[1:59:48] there but it is around You
[1:59:51] keep up the good work.
[1:59:52] >> Have these items a lot on
[1:59:53] city council meetings.
[1:59:53] Thank you.
[1:59:54] Our final speaker is Kathleen
[1:59:58] Lippert.
[1:59:59] Thank you for letting me speak.
[2:00:04] California is a I'd like to
[2:00:05] speak to both items please.
[2:00:08] >> 1 to 1 and 102 Can you hear
[2:00:08] me?
[2:00:09] Please proceed.
[2:00:13] California is a desert and
[2:00:13] water is a necessary and
[2:00:14] limited resource of the highest
[2:00:17] priority.
[2:00:18] Instead the public has watched
[2:00:19] as dam conditions have eroded
[2:00:23] not just Lake Hodges.
[2:00:23] The city was warned four years
[2:00:27] ago that Lake Hodges was deemed
[2:00:28] in need of critical repair but
[2:00:29] once again City postponed and
[2:00:32] redirected funds reserved for
[2:00:33] addressing dam maintenance and
[2:00:33] repair to numerous other
[2:00:37] projects none of which are as
[2:00:38] critical as potable water for
[2:00:42] the public.
[2:00:42] The costs of deferred spending
[2:00:47] for critical resource our water
[2:00:48] went has gone down from $400
[2:00:51] per acre foot to 2600 for
[2:00:51] imported water.
[2:00:55] It's inexcusable that the city
[2:00:56] failed to recognize that a dam
[2:00:57] over 100 years old should have
[2:01:00] been monitored regularly for
[2:01:01] necessary repairs.
[2:01:05] Its structural degradation and
[2:01:06] defects were only discovered in
[2:01:06] 2022.
[2:01:10] A full replacement of the Time
[2:01:11] dam is currently being planned
[2:01:14] for repair but it won't be done
[2:01:15] until 2034.
[2:01:19] We wasted $11 billion worth of
[2:01:20] water that had to be flushed
[2:01:23] out to the ocean because Lake
[2:01:24] Hodges couldn't accommodate
[2:01:28] the increased water levels to
[2:01:29] preserve human life and
[2:01:29] property and comply with state
[2:01:33] regulators.
[2:01:38] And in a 2019 order please stop
[2:01:39] postponing projects that you
[2:01:43] have money set aside to monitor
[2:01:47] and start putting it towards
[2:01:48] special interest projects.
[2:01:52] Thank you for letting me speak
[2:01:53] .
[2:01:53] >> Thank you.
[2:01:54] That concludes public comment
[2:01:54] on these items.
[2:01:55] All right.
[2:01:55] Thank you.
[2:01:57] City clerk We'll turn it over
[2:01:58] to my colleagues for questions
[2:02:02] and comments Again.
[2:02:03] 201 is a information item no
[2:02:06] actions required 202 does
[2:02:06] require a motion And we'll
[2:02:07] start with the chair of
[2:02:11] the active Transportation and
[2:02:12] Infrastructure Committee,
[2:02:12] Councilmember Whitman.
[2:02:13] Thank you.
[2:02:16] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:02:16] A couple of other questions
[2:02:17] since we did discuss this and
[2:02:20] active transportation and
[2:02:20] Infrastructure Committee but I
[2:02:21] think the points are important
[2:02:25] to capture here at the council
[2:02:26] meeting as well The design
[2:02:30] services that are covered by
[2:02:30] these proposed contracts
[2:02:31] between the city and hdr and
[2:02:34] stantec those will be provided
[2:02:39] and as needed basis and in
[2:02:40] other words the city will only
[2:02:40] pay for the design services
[2:02:44] that it requests and receives,
[2:02:44] correct?
[2:02:45] That is correct, sir.
[2:02:49] We've been hearing a lot of
[2:02:50] discussion around the future of
[2:02:54] Lake Hodges Dam.
[2:02:59] The state has ordered that
[2:03:03] the city conduct some measures
[2:03:04] to reduce the risk of a dam
[2:03:04] failure and those measures are
[2:03:08] not going to be cheap.
[2:03:09] So I want to ask for the record
[2:03:13] given the questions about Lake
[2:03:14] Hodges Dam, does the city have
[2:03:15] a choice about whether or not
[2:03:18] to perform the state mandated
[2:03:23] risk reduction measures at Lake
[2:03:23] Hodges Dam?
[2:03:24] No, we're required to do those
[2:03:25] risk reduction measures and
[2:03:28] that is what these dam services
[2:03:29] contracts will help us design
[2:03:32] for it.
[2:03:33] If we don't, what's
[2:03:37] the consequence of of saying
[2:03:38] that No, we're not going to do
[2:03:38] that later has different
[2:03:39] options at their play.
[2:03:42] >> I mean you can they've been
[2:03:43] wanting this This is the only
[2:03:43] unsatisfactory dam in their
[2:03:47] entire portfolio They can go
[2:03:48] all the way up to and including
[2:03:51] telling us to empty the entire
[2:03:52] reservoir and emptying
[2:03:56] the entire reservoir could
[2:03:57] result in some of the very fire
[2:03:57] risks that we're hearing nearby
[2:03:59] residents express concerns
[2:04:04] about fire risk.
[2:04:09] So it has so I think we want to
[2:04:09] separate the entire issue in
[2:04:10] regards to fire risk in regards
[2:04:14] to the level of the reservoir
[2:04:15] as it is right now we have
[2:04:19] the capability to pull from
[2:04:19] the reservoirs and I'm going to
[2:04:20] have Chief Deputy Chief
[2:04:20] Brainard.
[2:04:24] He is here from the Fire Safety
[2:04:24] Fire Department and he can help
[2:04:28] add any information on to that.
[2:04:29] I do not believe that anything
[2:04:30] about the level of the dam
[2:04:34] impacts or increases that fire
[2:04:38] risk but we can ask that
[2:04:39] question to you Would you like
[2:04:39] me to have them come up?
[2:04:40] >> Well yes, I think that's
[2:04:42] relevant If if a consequence of
[2:04:43] not performing the state
[2:04:47] mandated actions were to be
[2:04:52] that the city had to empty Lake
[2:04:53] Hodges, would that create an
[2:05:00] additional fire risk?
[2:05:07] But good afternoon Brant
[2:05:07] Brenner I'm here for Assistant
[2:05:11] Chief Eddy That's a fire
[2:05:12] rescue.
[2:05:12] We take all matters of fire
[2:05:15] safety seriously and we from
[2:05:16] all the way from the border all
[2:05:16] the way up to Lake Hodges
[2:05:18] anywhere where there's any type
[2:05:19] of wildfire risk we take very
[2:05:24] seriously.
[2:05:25] >> So I guess the question is
[2:05:28] in regards to specifically if
[2:05:29] the dam was eliminated, that
[2:05:34] removes one source of water in
[2:05:35] regards to pulling from is that
[2:05:35] correct?
[2:05:39] Our helicopters as far as so
[2:05:40] any of the dams or anything we
[2:05:42] pull out we could pull from up
[2:05:42] to two feet of water.
[2:05:43] I just confirmed with my
[2:05:47] helicopter crew chief that on
[2:05:47] duty today our crews can pull
[2:05:48] from everything from ponds to
[2:05:52] anything and they near as
[2:05:53] little as two feet of water.
[2:05:53] Okay.
[2:05:56] So that's I understand how
[2:05:57] you're hearing the question but
[2:06:01] let me restate the question and
[2:06:02] in a different way We're
[2:06:03] talking about approving these
[2:06:06] contracts and I'm asking about
[2:06:07] the consequence of not
[2:06:11] approving them.
[2:06:12] And you're saying that what are
[2:06:12] the consequences of not
[2:06:16] approving the contracts Could
[2:06:21] be that and not conducting
[2:06:21] these state mandated actions on
[2:06:26] Lake Hodges Dam could be that
[2:06:26] the state could order Lake
[2:06:30] Hodges to be drained.
[2:06:31] And my question is if we were
[2:06:36] to drain Lake Hodges and leave
[2:06:40] that landscape, is that not
[2:06:41] fire fuel that would be
[2:06:41] dangerous.
[2:06:42] >> Maybe it's not.
[2:06:45] But that's my question If
[2:06:46] anywhere where there's a know
[2:06:47] urban interface or any type of
[2:06:51] wildfire brush or anything like
[2:06:52] that, we will we're going to
[2:06:52] treat exactly the same and
[2:06:54] we'll aggressively attack with
[2:06:55] all of our partner agencies
[2:06:56] throughout San Diego County.
[2:06:57] We'll have a joint unified
[2:06:59] response.
[2:07:00] But I think in regards to your
[2:07:01] comment in regards to if we're
[2:07:05] trying to address as it relates
[2:07:05] to fire safety obviously also
[2:07:09] dams are also used as
[2:07:10] firebreaks too.
[2:07:11] And so if there's no water in
[2:07:14] there that is going to have a
[2:07:15] problem in regards to fire as
[2:07:19] it is right now whether or not
[2:07:19] it's to 80 versus 295, those
[2:07:23] are different conversations.
[2:07:24] But if you have nothing there,
[2:07:24] there's no dead pull.
[2:07:25] There's nothing there that's
[2:07:28] going to have impacts in
[2:07:29] regards to fire safety.
[2:07:33] Yes, it is.
[2:07:34] But that is why these dam
[2:07:34] services contracts are so
[2:07:35] important because if we're
[2:07:37] trying to at least maintain
[2:07:38] what we have right now, then we
[2:07:42] want to do these contracts.
[2:07:42] Okay.
[2:07:42] Thank you.
[2:07:47] That concludes my questions.
[2:07:47] All right.
[2:07:48] Thank you.
[2:07:48] Council member Whitburn.
[2:07:52] We'll go next to Council member
[2:07:57] Campbell My gosh, I didn't I, I
[2:07:57] thank you very much for
[2:08:02] the presentation.
[2:08:02] I think it's very important
[2:08:03] that we approve this especially
[2:08:06] as is mandated by the state.
[2:08:07] I wish that the state would pay
[2:08:08] for whatever it mandates but it
[2:08:12] doesn't And so I will move
[2:08:17] the staff's recommendation.
[2:08:17] Okay.
[2:08:17] Thank you.
[2:08:18] All right.
[2:08:18] Thank you, Council member
[2:08:19] Campbell.
[2:08:21] So we do have a motion to move
[2:08:22] the staff recommendation.
[2:08:23] >> We'll go next to council
[2:08:26] member Von Wolpert.
[2:08:26] Thank you.
[2:08:27] Thank you for the presentation
[2:08:31] today on our dams program and
[2:08:32] thank you for answering all
[2:08:33] the questions.
[2:08:36] I also want to thank Rhonda and
[2:08:37] friend Hodges and everybody for
[2:08:37] being here.
[2:08:38] Thank you for coming down today
[2:08:39] and for being engaged with
[2:08:41] the whole process.
[2:08:42] My incredible policy advisor aj
[2:08:46] Baker has been wonderful in
[2:08:47] making sure that the community
[2:08:48] is involved in this discussion
[2:08:50] because as you said when
[2:08:51] the lake water diminishes that
[2:08:55] leads to an explosion in an
[2:08:56] growth of brush.
[2:08:57] You know when I was a kid and
[2:08:59] you drove in the 15 freeway up
[2:09:00] to the North County fair that's
[2:09:01] what I still call it.
[2:09:01] You can see water on both sides
[2:09:04] of the 15 freeway and that's
[2:09:05] what we grew up with And we
[2:09:08] were used to with Lake Hodges.
[2:09:09] I understand this dam was built
[2:09:10] before women had the right to
[2:09:10] vote in this country.
[2:09:13] I do understand how old this
[2:09:14] dam is.
[2:09:15] At the same time we are now
[2:09:18] aware that this is the most
[2:09:19] failing dam in the state of
[2:09:23] California and so we have to do
[2:09:24] something about this.
[2:09:27] My first question is where is
[2:09:28] the county water authority?
[2:09:35] Are they paying for any of this
[2:09:36] 75 million over ten years Are
[2:09:37] they going to be contributing
[2:09:40] to the repair of Lake Hodges
[2:09:41] because this is half their
[2:09:41] asset.
[2:09:42] So two different things.
[2:09:46] So if we're looking at any
[2:09:50] project that is for maintenance
[2:09:51] activity is it is our belief at
[2:09:52] Lake Hodges.
[2:09:54] So remember the 75 million for
[2:09:55] each of these contracts is for
[2:09:56] all of our entire dam portfolio
[2:09:59] If it is associated with Hodges
[2:10:00] they do have a cost share
[2:10:00] measure.
[2:10:04] They are responsible for 50% of
[2:10:05] the cost they have.
[2:10:08] As a reminder though they have
[2:10:09] told us if it's the full
[2:10:10] replacement they do not believe
[2:10:14] that they have are required to
[2:10:14] pay for that And that is
[2:10:15] different than our
[2:10:20] understanding.
[2:10:20] Okay.
[2:10:21] Interim we'll get to
[2:10:21] the replacement in a second.
[2:10:24] But in terms of this item today
[2:10:25] to approve you know our rate
[2:10:25] payers will be paying for this
[2:10:29] our rate payers plus So in this
[2:10:30] specifically for this 75
[2:10:30] million for these two contracts
[2:10:34] if the work is for Lake Hodges
[2:10:34] like we're talking about
[2:10:35] the risk reduction risk
[2:10:38] reduction reduction measures
[2:10:39] they would be paying their 50%
[2:10:40] of that.
[2:10:40] Yes.
[2:10:40] Okay.
[2:10:43] And the county water authority
[2:10:44] has agreed to do this.
[2:10:44] Are they protesting this or it
[2:10:45] is not understanding that they
[2:10:48] would be protesting that they
[2:10:49] would only be protesting
[2:10:49] the full replacement is our
[2:10:53] understanding.
[2:10:53] Okay.
[2:10:57] I'll get to the full replace in
[2:10:57] a second.
[2:10:58] But in terms of the current
[2:11:01] state of the dam right now
[2:11:02] the city has been doing repairs
[2:11:02] on Lake Hodges because we've
[2:11:06] been ordered to so has
[2:11:07] the County Water Authority paid
[2:11:08] their fair share of those
[2:11:08] repairs?
[2:11:10] Yes.
[2:11:15] And how much have they paid?
[2:11:16] I would have to get back to you
[2:11:19] in regards to that one.
[2:11:20] I'd have to get back to you.
[2:11:23] But they have been paying their
[2:11:23] 50% of all of ours.
[2:11:24] >> Okay.
[2:11:27] I would love to know how much
[2:11:28] they have it contributing going
[2:11:28] forward.
[2:11:32] So if they're paying half of
[2:11:33] the bill and we are currently
[2:11:37] being ordered to do mandated
[2:11:38] repairs by the State Department
[2:11:38] of dam safety, why is it taking
[2:11:39] so long?
[2:11:42] We were supposed to get back
[2:11:43] the options from
[2:11:44] the geotechnical scientists
[2:11:47] this summer and now it's pushed
[2:11:48] back to DECEMBER of 2026, is
[2:11:51] that correct?
[2:11:52] Yes, we are expecting it by
[2:11:53] DECEMBER of 2026.
[2:11:53] Yes.
[2:11:54] But we were expecting it this
[2:11:57] summer.
[2:11:57] Yeah.
[2:11:58] Kelly, if you want to add
[2:11:59] anything in regards to Kelly or
[2:11:59] Tiffany, if you want to add
[2:12:02] anything in regards to
[2:12:02] the timeline.
[2:12:02] Yeah.
[2:12:06] Thank you.
[2:12:07] So there's a number of
[2:12:07] technical analyzes that we must
[2:12:11] complete to come to a
[2:12:11] recommendation for an
[2:12:12] alternative to full dam
[2:12:16] replacement for Hodges And
[2:12:16] those technical analyzes take
[2:12:17] some time.
[2:12:21] So we do expect that we're
[2:12:21] going to need more time.
[2:12:22] So the end of the year is when
[2:12:26] we expect to have a
[2:12:27] recommendation on what we're
[2:12:28] doing with Hodges in the long
[2:12:28] term.
[2:12:28] Okay.
[2:12:31] Here we hired an outside
[2:12:32] contractor to do this
[2:12:33] recommendation for us.
[2:12:33] Yes, We currently have gbi
[2:12:36] doing the alternatives analysis
[2:12:37] for us.
[2:12:37] Okay.
[2:12:41] So then I'd like an explanation
[2:12:42] from them also why this is
[2:12:43] taking so long.
[2:12:46] Are they not working on it?
[2:12:47] Do they have other projects?
[2:12:47] I mean this is the highest
[2:12:51] rated failure safety dam in
[2:12:51] the state of California and
[2:12:52] they have been working on it in
[2:12:56] regards to some of the issues
[2:12:57] Is that so every time that we
[2:13:01] have to do anything in regards
[2:13:02] to Hodges we want to make sure
[2:13:07] we're doing our entirely due
[2:13:07] diligence.
[2:13:08] The state is one of
[2:13:08] the assessments that do is on
[2:13:12] the concrete itself cannot
[2:13:12] withstand whatever
[2:13:13] recommendations that we're
[2:13:13] doing.
[2:13:14] So then there's different
[2:13:18] modeling on that.
[2:13:19] I think the expectation was is
[2:13:19] that we went with a shorter
[2:13:20] timeline because we're trying
[2:13:22] to push through and then each
[2:13:23] thing we're trying to identify
[2:13:24] does take us a little bit
[2:13:26] longer and we want to make sure
[2:13:27] we've done all of our due
[2:13:28] diligence so that way when we
[2:13:28] get into design and
[2:13:32] construction we don't identify
[2:13:33] things that pushed that
[2:13:33] timeline around.
[2:13:38] >> Okay, got it.
[2:13:39] I have a request for next time
[2:13:40] we hear a dam's updated api or
[2:13:40] they can be bringing an
[2:13:42] engineer as well.
[2:13:43] We're paying them.
[2:13:43] They should be here answering
[2:13:46] our questions about what's
[2:13:51] going on with the dam.
[2:13:52] I was also asking a lot of
[2:13:53] questions about how we're
[2:13:56] communicating with our
[2:13:56] residents at the committee
[2:13:57] because the fire increased fire
[2:14:01] risk is real.
[2:14:02] Chief Eddy who I know can't be
[2:14:03] here today actually lived in
[2:14:07] the community and we received
[2:14:07] over $1 million grant from
[2:14:08] the state of California from
[2:14:09] Assemblymember Joshua Patel's
[2:14:12] office because the increased
[2:14:13] fire threat because of
[2:14:13] the brush growth when the water
[2:14:17] went down has exponentially
[2:14:18] increased fire concern in a
[2:14:19] community that already lost
[2:14:23] their homes and this is not a
[2:14:23] theoretical concern.
[2:14:24] This was where the Bridge Creek
[2:14:25] fire went through And so you're
[2:14:27] hearing from people who've
[2:14:28] watched their homes burn
[2:14:28] before.
[2:14:33] And so my question is if
[2:14:34] the Department of Dam Safety is
[2:14:34] not going to allow us to raise
[2:14:35] the water level which would
[2:14:38] then flood some of the brush,
[2:14:39] what is our plan going to be
[2:14:39] going forward?
[2:14:40] I know we have the million
[2:14:43] dollar grant this year to do
[2:14:44] extensive brush management and
[2:14:45] get some of the native plants
[2:14:45] out of the area.
[2:14:48] But what about next year or
[2:14:49] the year after?
[2:14:50] And so you know Deputy Chief, I
[2:14:54] know that you just had to fill
[2:14:54] in today since he's not
[2:14:55] available.
[2:14:55] But my question for the fire
[2:14:58] department is going forward,
[2:14:59] can we have more involved
[2:14:59] conversations with
[2:15:02] the community about what to do
[2:15:03] about this increased brush
[2:15:08] management issues?
[2:15:09] Yes, we can do that.
[2:15:13] I can get in touch with Chief
[2:15:14] Tasker to talk about the brush
[2:15:14] management area and we can get
[2:15:15] back to you.
[2:15:15] >> Okay.
[2:15:15] Thank you.
[2:15:18] And I know that you know we're
[2:15:18] currently waiting on our second
[2:15:19] wildfire helicopter to get a
[2:15:24] new part in which takes an
[2:15:24] abnormally long amount of time.
[2:15:30] But are we able to get a rock
[2:15:31] up there?
[2:15:31] Copter three if we need to
[2:15:32] delay charges at this point?
[2:15:32] Oh, yes.
[2:15:35] Okay.
[2:15:36] >> Three is in service.
[2:15:37] Couple three is in service
[2:15:37] today.
[2:15:37] Okay.
[2:15:38] Got it.
[2:15:38] And then Cal Fire is able to
[2:15:41] bring in on a more regular
[2:15:41] basis when we are much more
[2:15:42] prepared than we were in 2007,
[2:15:42] correct?
[2:15:46] Absolutely Are interagency
[2:15:46] think they obviously are
[2:15:50] coordination between Cal fire
[2:15:51] all of our partners between us
[2:15:52] can do to register fire and all
[2:15:55] the surrounding jurisdictions
[2:15:56] it has never been better right
[2:15:57] now our Cal fire if I were to
[2:16:01] as the commander recall for
[2:16:02] fixing their package we could
[2:16:03] bring it in.
[2:16:03] I can keep bringing in as many
[2:16:07] resources as necessary to
[2:16:08] mitigate any incident as
[2:16:08] possible.
[2:16:09] This okay And cal fire of their
[2:16:13] planes can dip in Lake Hodges
[2:16:14] to correct I'm not I don't have
[2:16:14] it that I'm not aware of their
[2:16:18] capabilities with that correct
[2:16:19] I could find out for you We can
[2:16:19] get back to you.
[2:16:20] Okay.
[2:16:20] Thank you.
[2:16:21] I think we just we need to have
[2:16:24] a better conversation with
[2:16:24] the committee members about
[2:16:25] this because it is alarming to
[2:16:26] see the exponential growth in
[2:16:29] brush which is a result of
[2:16:29] the lake lowering.
[2:16:34] So thank you and thank you for
[2:16:35] filling in for Chief Eddie.
[2:16:35] I appreciate you being here
[2:16:36] today.
[2:16:39] I have one more question about
[2:16:40] communication with our office
[2:16:40] and our residents.
[2:16:44] I have been asking for the city
[2:16:45] in the Department of Dam Safety
[2:16:46] to have a meaningful
[2:16:49] conversation about whether we
[2:16:50] can raise the water level
[2:16:51] because we now know that we're
[2:16:55] not going to be able to replace
[2:16:55] this dam as quickly as we
[2:16:56] wanted to because the County
[2:16:57] Water Authority has
[2:17:00] unilaterally decided they do
[2:17:01] not have to share the cost
[2:17:01] anymore.
[2:17:02] >> One I hope we're getting a
[2:17:06] legal opinion on that.
[2:17:06] Okay.
[2:17:06] All right.
[2:17:07] Thank you.
[2:17:08] We should be getting legal but
[2:17:11] now that second, our
[2:17:11] constituents have been rightly
[2:17:16] asking what we're going to do
[2:17:17] about this in the meantime.
[2:17:17] So I wrote a letter last JULY
[2:17:18] to the secretary of
[2:17:22] the California Natural
[2:17:23] Resources Agency, Secretary
[2:17:24] Crawford asking for this ody to
[2:17:28] work with Cal Fire to determine
[2:17:28] if the risk of the dam breaking
[2:17:29] is greater at this point or her
[2:17:34] life and safety of the risk of
[2:17:35] a wildfire resulting because of
[2:17:35] the lower water levels.
[2:17:36] And nobody has answered my
[2:17:37] question I've asked our state
[2:17:38] assembly members, our state
[2:17:44] senators and then this morning
[2:17:44] we received an email that my
[2:17:45] office is not included on
[2:17:48] the from a gentleman who is
[2:17:49] the public affairs California
[2:17:55] Department of Water Resources
[2:17:56] Public Affairs office situation
[2:17:56] in the in which he has been
[2:17:57] explaining to constituents that
[2:18:00] this dam is so dangerous that
[2:18:01] not only are we required to
[2:18:07] lower the water level at
[2:18:07] because of a seismic event
[2:18:11] because of an earthquake but in
[2:18:12] 2023 we discovered that a
[2:18:13] concrete deterioration has
[2:18:13] progressed to such a state.
[2:18:17] The Department of Dam Safety
[2:18:18] has determined the dam to be an
[2:18:19] unacceptable condition that
[2:18:19] could lead to failure under
[2:18:20] normal or static conditions
[2:18:24] meaning right now the dam could
[2:18:25] fail and Council Working
[2:18:26] Appeals Office insisted on this
[2:18:28] email that my office was not
[2:18:29] And so I'm just asking I have
[2:18:30] been begging this department to
[2:18:36] give communication to me and my
[2:18:36] residents who come all the way
[2:18:37] down here and why can I not
[2:18:40] technically be sitting on an
[2:18:41] email?
[2:18:47] I just we're very frustrated.
[2:18:47] Whangarei Public Utilities
[2:18:48] Director Council member Yvonne
[2:18:49] Walker I just want to apologize
[2:18:53] to you for not including you on
[2:18:54] those conversations earlier.
[2:18:55] It was a request from d seven
[2:18:55] and we're being responsive in
[2:18:58] meeting with that constituent
[2:18:59] and they followed up a few
[2:18:59] times and then dwp got back to
[2:19:00] them about two weeks ago and we
[2:19:04] just got that to you today.
[2:19:04] So I think it's a helpful
[2:19:05] reminder that if there are
[2:19:08] inquiries that come from other
[2:19:09] council districts that we
[2:19:10] include the council district
[2:19:10] where concern is located in
[2:19:15] this case Hodges will make sure
[2:19:16] to keep you updated on any
[2:19:17] communications related orders
[2:19:19] to report politics.
[2:19:25] >> Thank you.
[2:19:26] I appreciate that commitment.
[2:19:27] I also wondering when we're
[2:19:28] going to have a newly updated
[2:19:32] how to determine first of all
[2:19:33] dam really quickly ask
[2:19:33] questions Given this new
[2:19:34] information the Department of
[2:19:37] Dam Safety thinks this dam is
[2:19:38] so unsafe that any moment it
[2:19:43] could experience a structural
[2:19:44] collapse that we can't raise
[2:19:45] the water level if that is
[2:19:45] the case and he put it in
[2:19:49] writing here what are we going
[2:19:50] to do on our own website What
[2:19:51] Ali Bridger, deputy director of
[2:19:55] External Affairs answer that.
[2:19:56] Yeah Thank you Council members
[2:19:57] I think he was in the process
[2:19:58] of being completely updated and
[2:20:01] will ensure that update is
[2:20:02] finalized with the city's
[2:20:03] perspective as well and it
[2:20:03] should be uploaded to our
[2:20:06] website within the near future
[2:20:06] .
[2:20:07] Will you let us know when
[2:20:07] that's done please?
[2:20:12] Okay.
[2:20:13] And I want to thank
[2:20:14] the residents who have been
[2:20:14] consistently arguing this point
[2:20:18] and particularly this morning
[2:20:18] because you were able to get
[2:20:19] answers quicker than sometimes
[2:20:21] we get to you unfortunately
[2:20:28] here in the city So okay.
[2:20:28] Well I appreciate
[2:20:29] the commitment to getting more
[2:20:34] better communication with our
[2:20:34] office.
[2:20:35] My last question is I agree
[2:20:36] with Rhonda's recommendation
[2:20:41] that this is the worst dam in
[2:20:41] the whole state of California.
[2:20:42] >> Why are we not putting all
[2:20:47] the pressure on this dam if
[2:20:48] we're going to prove this $150
[2:20:49] million for all we have in San
[2:20:53] Diego because I just need
[2:20:54] the most attention so why can't
[2:20:54] we focus on this one first?
[2:20:58] So I'll go back in regards to
[2:20:59] that the most important thing
[2:20:59] is making sure because we've
[2:21:00] lost 50% of the person who's
[2:21:04] going to fund it we got
[2:21:05] estimates We were originally
[2:21:06] looking at $275 million to
[2:21:10] replace this dam.
[2:21:15] The estimates now are between
[2:21:15] 500 and $700 million and that
[2:21:16] would mean the city would be
[2:21:16] responsible.
[2:21:19] We've lost 50% of our funding
[2:21:20] for that.
[2:21:20] So that increases the liability
[2:21:25] in the cost to actually do
[2:21:26] the work on the city of San
[2:21:26] Diego residents.
[2:21:27] And so we are trying to right
[2:21:30] now identify all options
[2:21:31] available to us in regards to
[2:21:37] what is the best use of all
[2:21:37] ratepayer funds because we do
[2:21:38] not have unlimited funds.
[2:21:42] Our existing rate right now we
[2:21:43] don't even have the rates to do
[2:21:44] that replacement right now.
[2:21:48] So that would also require
[2:21:49] future increased rates And so
[2:21:50] we want to make sure and come
[2:21:54] back and make sure we've
[2:21:55] identified that option that
[2:21:56] gives us addresses the concerns
[2:21:56] in regards to the safety of
[2:22:00] that dam but also looks at
[2:22:01] the affordability that we're
[2:22:02] looking at and that's why we
[2:22:06] chose to do that risk
[2:22:07] alternative analysis and coming
[2:22:08] back with also interim risk
[2:22:12] reduction measures which I
[2:22:13] appreciate My question I guess
[2:22:19] still is are we going to direct
[2:22:26] most of these resources
[2:22:26] immediately to Lake Hodges?
[2:22:26] Hodges is the number one
[2:22:27] priority.
[2:22:27] Yes.
[2:22:27] Okay.
[2:22:27] All right.
[2:22:27] Thank you.
[2:22:27] Well, thank you for answering
[2:22:27] the questions.
[2:22:30] Thank you for the commitment to
[2:22:31] communicate better with us
[2:22:31] going forward.
[2:22:32] You know, we work with our city
[2:22:32] partners.
[2:22:37] That's how we got $2 million
[2:22:38] with assembly Ever tell is
[2:22:38] because when it does come to us
[2:22:39] we can ask But if we don't get
[2:22:41] that information I can't act on
[2:22:42] it.
[2:22:42] So given the commitment that
[2:22:43] you will work with our
[2:22:48] communities better and get us
[2:22:48] more answers and we'll be
[2:22:49] focusing the efforts
[2:22:50] immediately on Lake Hodges if
[2:22:54] we proved it today I will prove
[2:22:55] the vote to approve the item
[2:22:55] but we will continue to follow
[2:23:01] up to make sure that these
[2:23:01] commitments are actually
[2:23:02] followed through.
[2:23:02] The community can feel safer
[2:23:03] and we can be more aware of
[2:23:07] going to be with this very
[2:23:08] precious resource that we will
[2:23:08] count on for a long time.
[2:23:09] So thank you very much.
[2:23:12] I think COUNCILMAN I think you
[2:23:13] said you would vote to approve
[2:23:13] it.
[2:23:14] You didn't actually sign it
[2:23:17] though So we get to you.
[2:23:17] Okay.
[2:23:18] I'll jump in there And second
[2:23:18] before I go to Councilmember
[2:23:23] Foster offer a few thoughts
[2:23:23] because I want to clarify some
[2:23:24] of the things that we've been
[2:23:25] talking about.
[2:23:28] One, thank you for coming down
[2:23:29] and taking the time to testify
[2:23:34] there isn't anything more scary
[2:23:34] than the possibility of changes
[2:23:40] that could potentially threaten
[2:23:40] our homes.
[2:23:41] You know I I'm old enough to
[2:23:46] remember when living next to
[2:23:47] open space and Wildlands
[2:23:51] actually was an asset given as
[2:23:51] many people describe
[2:23:52] the changes in our environment
[2:23:53] and the risk of wildfire has
[2:23:57] certainly turned people's
[2:23:58] attention in a different
[2:23:58] direction.
[2:24:02] My district District one used
[2:24:03] to enjoy the quality of life by
[2:24:09] being separated by major pieces
[2:24:09] of open space.
[2:24:10] And what do they face today?
[2:24:15] Difficulty getting insurance
[2:24:15] The state introducing zone zero
[2:24:16] which is going to require
[2:24:20] everybody sense almost
[2:24:21] everybody in the city to
[2:24:22] actually clear everything
[2:24:22] within five feet.
[2:24:26] Circumstances have different
[2:24:27] change and sadly it takes
[2:24:27] dramatic incidents to actually
[2:24:32] force us to change.
[2:24:33] And I do want to emphasize
[2:24:33] the world changed with
[2:24:38] the arrival down and change
[2:24:39] the vision of them safety and
[2:24:40] how they looked at things for
[2:24:45] better or for worse.
[2:24:46] So I appreciate the pivot as
[2:24:51] councilmember from over it in
[2:24:52] the public mentioned I am a
[2:24:53] civil engineer so I paid a
[2:24:53] little bit extra attention and
[2:24:56] I want to remind that we did do
[2:24:57] upwards $10 million worth of
[2:24:57] repairs at Lake Hodges.
[2:25:01] Pretty extraordinary innovative
[2:25:02] approaches to try to stabilize
[2:25:02] the dam.
[2:25:08] And I can remember we actually
[2:25:08] began a pace to actually start
[2:25:13] thinking about a new dam There
[2:25:13] .
[2:25:14] I don't know how far we got but
[2:25:19] we certainly got slammed when
[2:25:20] the County Water Authority said
[2:25:20] Yeah, we don't care about
[2:25:21] the hydroelectric capacity
[2:25:21] there.
[2:25:25] We don't care about the water
[2:25:26] storage there.
[2:25:27] We're not interested in being
[2:25:31] your 50% partner And that
[2:25:31] changed the landscape.
[2:25:32] I want to reemphasize
[2:25:36] the question I think
[2:25:36] councilmember bubble raised but
[2:25:37] there's nothing in the action
[2:25:38] today that actually precludes
[2:25:42] what we might do with that,
[2:25:42] correct?
[2:25:43] Correct.
[2:25:43] Okay.
[2:25:48] So I wanted to make sure that
[2:25:49] we weren't doing anything in
[2:25:49] that regard And I also don't
[2:25:54] want to forget about the larger
[2:25:54] picture that we're talking
[2:25:55] about that we first heard in
[2:25:56] Environment Committee where
[2:25:59] the city again given the 2021
[2:26:00] action actually took a look at
[2:26:05] the entirety of our system of
[2:26:06] water storage which is our
[2:26:11] water storage that doesn't
[2:26:11] belong to the County water
[2:26:12] Authority.
[2:26:13] It's ours and it does typically
[2:26:18] we talk about it as 10% of our
[2:26:18] water supply, maybe even
[2:26:19] the rainy month that actually
[2:26:23] is upwards You said 30% and
[2:26:23] more importantly the cost of
[2:26:29] $400 an acre foot as opposed to
[2:26:29] $2,600.
[2:26:30] And anybody who thinks about
[2:26:31] privatizing the most expensive
[2:26:34] water in your county is a
[2:26:35] private desalinization plant.
[2:26:36] So I'm not interested in going
[2:26:40] in that direction.
[2:26:41] But everything that we need to
[2:26:42] do to make sure that that local
[2:26:46] water continues to function in
[2:26:47] a very efficient manner and
[2:26:47] keeps health keep the rates
[2:26:53] down So I appreciate that even
[2:26:53] though this is a ten year
[2:26:54] contract that you're asking
[2:26:58] that you will come back to us
[2:26:59] yearly and let us know
[2:27:00] the progress Clearly after Ojai
[2:27:05] completes its assessment of
[2:27:05] Lake Hodges and options coming
[2:27:06] back to api or investment
[2:27:11] committee whatever makes sense
[2:27:11] best I do feel inclined because
[2:27:12] I heard it more than once about
[2:27:17] Choice Lake It's not part of
[2:27:17] our water story.
[2:27:18] It's not part of our system
[2:27:23] There it is a dam all dams
[2:27:24] always have that risk of
[2:27:24] breaking.
[2:27:25] How do we it's not PUDs I
[2:27:28] assume it's Park and Rec.
[2:27:29] Yes, that is correct.
[2:27:30] But we are in coordination
[2:27:30] because we do kind of have
[2:27:35] the expertise in regards to
[2:27:35] doing the condition
[2:27:35] assessments.
[2:27:36] We are coordinating with Park
[2:27:37] and Rec to give them
[2:27:40] the information It is a
[2:27:41] satisfactory dam at this point
[2:27:42] in time which is within days or
[2:27:42] days That's their highest
[2:27:43] rating.
[2:27:47] So but we do have it identified
[2:27:48] in preparing the information
[2:27:49] that is needed so that being in
[2:27:52] future actions can be done but
[2:27:53] that would be at the expense of
[2:27:54] from the general fund.
[2:27:54] Okay.
[2:27:58] I don't want to put any undue
[2:27:59] pressure in front of our
[2:27:59] colleagues but we do have ten
[2:28:00] members of the County Water
[2:28:05] Authority board of directors
[2:28:05] there and I think it's a pretty
[2:28:06] big enough to convince
[2:28:10] the other directors to pony up
[2:28:11] that kind of dollars where they
[2:28:11] MAY not see the benefit to
[2:28:12] the County Water Authority's
[2:28:17] entire vision of an area of
[2:28:17] responsibility.
[2:28:18] So I don't really hold whole
[2:28:22] much hope there no matter what
[2:28:23] the city or town are able to do
[2:28:23] at the board level going
[2:28:24] forward.
[2:28:29] But again, you know, I also
[2:28:29] don't want to lose
[2:28:30] the incredible pivot that
[2:28:34] Peabody went through past five
[2:28:34] years going forward And you
[2:28:40] responded to when the division
[2:28:41] of dam safety said new rules
[2:28:45] are in place you jumped on
[2:28:46] every requirement And then when
[2:28:46] County Water Authority said
[2:28:47] again slammed the door on us
[2:28:51] you pivoted again.
[2:28:52] And that's an extraordinary
[2:28:53] amount of work of something
[2:28:53] that is not part of our day to
[2:28:54] day work.
[2:28:58] So I very much appreciate it.
[2:28:59] I appreciate MR. McFadden being
[2:28:59] here and participating in this
[2:29:04] as the chief of infrastructure
[2:29:04] Services.
[2:29:05] So with that I'll close my
[2:29:10] comments and my colleagues have
[2:29:11] some comments as well that I
[2:29:12] will second the motion.
[2:29:12] >> So we do have a motion by
[2:29:16] council member Campbell and a
[2:29:17] second by Council PRESIDENT
[2:29:17] LaCava to second the motion on
[2:29:22] the floor And with that will go
[2:29:22] next to Council Member foster
[2:29:23] Thank you Chair and thank you
[2:29:27] for the presentation We did
[2:29:28] hear this previously I did and
[2:29:33] continue to have some concerns
[2:29:33] but listening to
[2:29:34] the conversation today we have
[2:29:40] this action that's before us
[2:29:41] today But you mentioned that
[2:29:41] there's another contract that
[2:29:42] we have Programatic contract
[2:29:42] with.
[2:29:46] We're doing analysis to look at
[2:29:47] options and how we are going to
[2:29:52] approach the very dam we are
[2:29:53] discussing with that work that
[2:29:54] is still outstanding and work
[2:29:57] is being done.
[2:29:58] Can you help me to understand
[2:29:59] why we are taking this action
[2:30:03] today?
[2:30:04] Absolutely and it's a great
[2:30:05] question in regard to that.
[2:30:09] We do have regulatory deadlines
[2:30:10] that we must address right now.
[2:30:11] We cannot wait to have every
[2:30:15] analysis that the team went
[2:30:16] through to have that all done
[2:30:17] before we move.
[2:30:22] We have definitely some
[2:30:23] priorities just like Hodges
[2:30:27] Berry, Ty Murray Dam we have
[2:30:27] other commitments and other
[2:30:28] requirements that are due and
[2:30:32] so we need to move forward in
[2:30:33] having that design work and
[2:30:34] keep maintaining that as we
[2:30:39] continue in a parallel path on
[2:30:40] the entire overall programatic
[2:30:40] analysis And so do we not have
[2:30:41] any do we not have another
[2:30:46] contract or an existing
[2:30:46] contracted to expire?
[2:30:47] What is the how are we taking
[2:30:47] care of these regulatory
[2:30:52] requirements prior to this item
[2:30:53] in regards to So a lot of them
[2:30:57] did require some of them didn't
[2:30:58] require design.
[2:30:59] We're moving into more major
[2:30:59] maintenance as it relates to
[2:31:04] design that we will need design
[2:31:05] expertise on this And so and
[2:31:06] then I'll have Kelly out
[2:31:10] anything else.
[2:31:11] So we have contracts at
[2:31:11] engineering a capital project
[2:31:12] department.
[2:31:16] So they issued three as needed
[2:31:17] contracts to assist with
[2:31:17] the near term repair projects
[2:31:21] and do design those contracts
[2:31:22] are nearing completion and
[2:31:23] capacity so we no longer have
[2:31:23] the ability to issue work for
[2:31:28] new repair projects hence
[2:31:29] the need for these.
[2:31:29] And how much were those
[2:31:35] contracts I we got the same
[2:31:36] concept What's the capacity and
[2:31:36] timeline on these?
[2:31:40] Yeah so for each one it was a
[2:31:41] five year duration they were as
[2:31:44] needed and they were each
[2:31:45] approximately 7 million so $21
[2:31:46] million total for all the years
[2:31:46] needed.
[2:31:47] >> Okay.
[2:31:50] And then with this with this
[2:31:56] contract what is the maximum I
[2:31:57] guess authority or capacity of
[2:32:01] a task order?
[2:32:08] The task orders are not limited
[2:32:08] in dollar value.
[2:32:09] I'm asking with the mayors what
[2:32:10] is the mayoral authority for a
[2:32:13] task order Based on my comments
[2:32:18] at 80 I had concerns on one
[2:32:18] commitments.
[2:32:18] Right.
[2:32:19] How are you going to break down
[2:32:20] some contracts and things like
[2:32:20] that?
[2:32:24] If I remember the conversation
[2:32:24] right there to be determined
[2:32:25] later as we go through actual
[2:32:26] task order process.
[2:32:30] My question is what is
[2:32:30] the mayor's authority?
[2:32:31] I'm trying to understand what
[2:32:32] we will see coming back and
[2:32:36] what we will not within those
[2:32:36] $75 million it is within
[2:32:41] the mayor's authority up to $75
[2:32:42] million within the term of
[2:32:47] the contract.
[2:32:47] But getting coming back we can
[2:32:48] come back each year In regards
[2:32:53] to our update.
[2:32:53] Is that accurate?
[2:32:54] I believe there's a limit on
[2:32:59] each task order regarding City
[2:33:05] Attorney's Council approval If
[2:33:06] you Deputy City Attorney there
[2:33:11] is no limit on tasks for as
[2:33:12] needed consultant contracts
[2:33:12] with you.
[2:33:16] >> So essentially we're issuing
[2:33:16] $75 million of capacity to
[2:33:17] the mayor.
[2:33:21] Not one item will come back to
[2:33:21] us in the ten year process for
[2:33:26] additional authority.
[2:33:27] Is that what I'm understanding?
[2:33:32] Why could you clarify if task
[2:33:32] orders are capital funded if
[2:33:33] that would trigger an
[2:33:38] additional approval?
[2:33:39] There is no cap on task for as
[2:33:44] needed consultant contracts.
[2:33:45] There's no limit within
[2:33:49] the municipal code for this
[2:34:02] type of this type of contract
[2:34:02] And what they're talking about
[2:34:03] this evening I'm going to add
[2:34:09] something Councilmember I would
[2:34:10] just offer that we couldn't
[2:34:10] issue a task today to the total
[2:34:13] to the tune of $75 million
[2:34:14] because that is not what's
[2:34:15] included in the rates that you
[2:34:15] all approved this past fall.
[2:34:19] That's also not included in our
[2:34:20] five year work budget that
[2:34:21] the full amount in year one.
[2:34:26] So that's where we noted that
[2:34:27] every opportunity that we will
[2:34:27] be coming back for every annual
[2:34:28] dam safety update with an
[2:34:32] update on this program but also
[2:34:32] in every five year outlook,
[2:34:33] every budget and every rate
[2:34:37] case we have moving forward
[2:34:38] there will be additional
[2:34:38] information on the planned
[2:34:39] spend for these contracts
[2:34:43] included within our dam safety
[2:34:48] program line items is putting
[2:34:49] and contracting on the call.
[2:34:50] I just want to make sure I
[2:34:50] understand this.
[2:34:55] I didn't realize that consulted
[2:34:56] contracts did not come within a
[2:34:56] limit attached to the task
[2:35:01] orders.
[2:35:02] Yes it is online.
[2:35:02] Yeah.
[2:35:03] Good afternoon Councilmember
[2:35:07] Foster.
[2:35:08] That is correct.
[2:35:08] Currently as we look at
[2:35:09] municipal code there are no
[2:35:12] limits for task orders Under as
[2:35:18] many contracts.
[2:35:19] Okay, so how much do we have
[2:35:20] budgeted for this cycle?
[2:35:21] What's the budget impact Or any
[2:35:25] rate I'm assuming what we have
[2:35:26] is included in the rates and
[2:35:26] we're not going what I just
[2:35:27] heard we're not going to go
[2:35:30] over that Correct.
[2:35:30] The amount is currently within
[2:35:36] this fiscal year as identified
[2:35:37] in a rate case and also with
[2:35:37] our five year.
[2:35:38] Okay.
[2:35:38] All right.
[2:35:42] I'm Thank you.
[2:35:42] All right.
[2:35:43] Thank you Councilmember Foster
[2:35:43] for your questions.
[2:35:48] We'll go next to council
[2:35:48] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
[2:35:49] Thank you PRESIDENT.
[2:35:50] We had a pretty extensive
[2:35:54] discussion of listening to So i
[2:35:55] think for me to summarize I'm
[2:35:55] going to recapping it quickly
[2:35:56] is perhaps helpful.
[2:35:59] I think everyone in the room
[2:36:00] understands the need for many
[2:36:01] of our dams especially for Lake
[2:36:05] Hodges.
[2:36:05] We already as a council had
[2:36:06] initiated funding for the study
[2:36:11] of the conditions of the dams
[2:36:12] And then the next step frankly
[2:36:12] is to have this contract in
[2:36:17] place to allow for funding to
[2:36:17] ensure that design the design
[2:36:18] phase for any future projects
[2:36:22] can occur And I know this is
[2:36:22] under a ten year period I feel
[2:36:23] comfortable with the budget
[2:36:27] authority piece being where we
[2:36:28] the council is going to have
[2:36:28] some ability to annually in
[2:36:29] terms of determining what's
[2:36:34] actually implemented within
[2:36:34] the budget.
[2:36:35] We're authorized within
[2:36:36] the budget for projects and so
[2:36:36] that it's not all just going to
[2:36:39] be spent But I presume that
[2:36:40] without this we wouldn't be
[2:36:45] able to address any of
[2:36:46] the identified potential
[2:36:46] repairs replacement water
[2:36:51] levels as have been requested
[2:36:52] by the Department of Safety of
[2:36:52] Dams.
[2:36:53] That is correct.
[2:36:54] I mean we have already have
[2:36:58] identified projects right now
[2:36:58] at Lower Ojai, at Murray at
[2:36:59] their at risk reduction
[2:37:03] measures at Hodges.
[2:37:04] All of those wouldn't be able
[2:37:04] to be completed without these
[2:37:05] contracts.
[2:37:10] Thank you.
[2:37:11] That concerns and I'm happy to
[2:37:11] support that and look forward
[2:37:12] to the work Continue.
[2:37:15] All right.
[2:37:15] Thank you.
[2:37:16] Council PRESIDENT Personally I
[2:37:17] don't see anyone else in
[2:37:17] the lights.
[2:37:18] Let me ask one last question.
[2:37:21] This is just a sign.
[2:37:22] So when you identify
[2:37:22] construction contracts those
[2:37:23] will come back because I
[2:37:27] suspect they will be quite
[2:37:28] sizable.
[2:37:28] Yes.
[2:37:28] Okay.
[2:37:29] Just one Want to double check
[2:37:29] up on that.
[2:37:30] Okay.
[2:37:34] We have a motion by
[2:37:34] Councilmember Campbell and
[2:37:35] second by myself to move
[2:37:36] the staff recommendation.
[2:37:37] Clerk please call the roll.
[2:37:37] I'm sorry The voting system.
[2:37:43] Please cast your vote That
[2:37:50] passes unanimously So sorry.
[2:37:51] That is not that announcing
[2:37:52] that passes 7 to 1 with
[2:37:56] Councilmember Foster voting no
[2:37:56] and Councilmember you absent.
[2:37:57] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[2:37:57] All right.
[2:37:58] Thank you to my council
[2:38:00] colleagues for all
[2:38:01] the questions and comments.
[2:38:02] Thank you to the good folks at
[2:38:07] pd for putting this together
[2:38:07] and answering all the questions
[2:38:08] And of course, gentlemen from
[2:38:13] Fire Rescue for showing up as
[2:38:13] well.
[2:38:14] >> So with that clerk please
[2:38:19] introduce item 203 Item 2 or 3
[2:38:19] is the naming of an existing
[2:38:20] alley in the Cabrillo Heights
[2:38:21] neighborhood within the Sara
[2:38:24] mesa community Plan area it's
[2:38:28] Highway Padre Dash 1130 27 six
[2:38:29] If you'd like to speak to this
[2:38:30] item please be sure to submit
[2:38:31] your speaker slip to the front
[2:38:34] of the room into the clear box
[2:38:35] and if you are participating
[2:38:35] remotely now's the time to
[2:38:40] raise your hand by pressing
[2:38:40] Star nine or the raise your
[2:38:41] hand icon.
[2:38:42] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[2:38:42] right Thank you.
[2:38:46] I see staff filling in.
[2:38:47] Please introduce yourselves for
[2:38:47] the record and let us know how
[2:38:48] much time you need for your
[2:39:02] presentation.
[2:39:02] >> Good afternoon Council
[2:39:03] PRESIDENT The following Council
[2:39:07] members My name is Daniel Neri
[2:39:08] ,Development Project Manager
[2:39:09] with Development Services and
[2:39:09] joining me today is senior land
[2:39:14] Surveyor Greg Jeffries and land
[2:39:15] Surveyor assistant Michael
[2:39:15] Burkhardt.
[2:39:18] I will need approximately three
[2:39:18] minutes for today's
[2:39:18] presentation.
[2:39:30] All right, we're ready.
[2:39:30] >> Okay.
[2:39:35] Item number 203 on today's
[2:39:36] docket is project number pr
[2:39:36] j11302764.
[2:39:41] The naming of an existing alley
[2:39:42] in the Cabrillo Heights
[2:39:42] neighborhood within the seven
[2:39:43] Mesa Community Plan area each
[2:39:49] highway.
[2:39:50] The item before you today
[2:39:51] proposes the naming of an
[2:39:51] existing unnamed public right
[2:39:56] of way alley to each highway.
[2:39:57] The street name change was
[2:40:02] brought forth by a petition
[2:40:02] from all affected property
[2:40:03] owners and tenants fronting
[2:40:04] the subject property in
[2:40:04] accordance with San Diego
[2:40:09] Municipal Code 1251120b
[2:40:09] Although the municipal code
[2:40:15] allows for a process one
[2:40:15] decision for petitions
[2:40:16] containing signatures
[2:40:19] indicating 100% support.
[2:40:19] The item before you requires a
[2:40:20] process five Decision by City
[2:40:25] Council Because the circulated
[2:40:26] petition received less than
[2:40:26] 100% support a recommendation
[2:40:31] from the Planning Commission is
[2:40:31] not required for this action
[2:40:32] for the San Diego Municipal
[2:40:37] Code the naming was determined
[2:40:37] to be categorically exempt from
[2:40:38] the California Environmental
[2:40:39] Quality Act pursuant to equal
[2:40:43] sections 153a1 for existing
[2:40:44] facilities and section 15311
[2:40:49] for accessory structures.
[2:40:49] The project is within the third
[2:40:53] Mesa Community Plan area of
[2:40:53] Council District seven and
[2:40:54] the site lies between Parkdale
[2:40:57] Avenue and McCullough Avenue
[2:40:58] within the room one one and r's
[2:40:59] one seven zones The Cabrillo
[2:41:03] Heights neighborhood lies east
[2:41:07] of Interstate 85 west of
[2:41:08] Interstate 15 and approximately
[2:41:09] 2.6 miles south of Montgomery
[2:41:14] Gibbs Airport, the existing 20
[2:41:15] six foot wide and 0.4 mile long
[2:41:20] alley was established for map
[2:41:21] number 3003 of the Rancho
[2:41:24] Cabrillo subdivision in 1960
[2:41:25] Known today as the Cabrillo
[2:41:25] Heights neighborhood, the Alley
[2:41:31] serves as a divide between
[2:41:31] the multiple dwelling unit
[2:41:32] residential and one one zone to
[2:41:35] the north shown here in total
[2:41:36] and the single dwelling unit
[2:41:37] r's one seven zone to the south
[2:41:41] shown here in yellow.
[2:41:42] The development pattern of
[2:41:43] the Cabrillo Heights
[2:41:43] neighborhood is characterized
[2:41:48] by multifamily use military
[2:41:48] housing to the north along
[2:41:49] Parkdale Avenue and single
[2:41:54] family residences to the south
[2:41:54] along McCollough Avenue in
[2:41:55] accordance with the street name
[2:41:59] change regulations under this
[2:42:00] end the San Diego Municipal
[2:42:04] Code the applicant provided
[2:42:05] identified 85 property owners
[2:42:05] or tenants with either property
[2:42:10] abutting the alley or property
[2:42:11] within an address on
[2:42:11] the affected segment of
[2:42:12] the subject right of way That
[2:42:17] petition was circulated via
[2:42:18] door to door canvasing
[2:42:18] resulting in 25 signatures in
[2:42:23] favor which equates to 29% in
[2:42:24] support and exceeded the 25%
[2:42:28] minimum threshold required by
[2:42:29] the code.
[2:42:29] It's important to note here
[2:42:30] that addresses without
[2:42:30] signatures were not non
[2:42:34] responsive and should today's
[2:42:35] action be approved all fronting
[2:42:36] properties will have the option
[2:42:41] to submit an address change
[2:42:44] request for information
[2:42:45] Bulletin 185 In accordance with
[2:42:50] San Diego Municipal Code
[2:42:50] Section 1251120 See staff
[2:42:51] determine that the project does
[2:42:52] not adversely affect the multi
[2:42:55] agency computer aided dispatch
[2:42:56] service for police, fire and
[2:42:57] paramedic vehicles or
[2:43:02] the policies and procedures of
[2:43:03] the United States Postal
[2:43:03] Service as each highway is not
[2:43:04] currently in assigned street
[2:43:09] name in the city On MARCH 20th
[2:43:10] 2025 the third Mesa Community
[2:43:14] Planning Group voted 601 in
[2:43:15] support of a recommendation to
[2:43:15] approve the naming of the alley
[2:43:20] to each highway citing enhanced
[2:43:20] safety navigation property
[2:43:25] addressing and community
[2:43:26] identity as a reason for their
[2:43:31] support In consideration of
[2:43:32] the staff report and some
[2:43:32] supporting materials staff
[2:43:33] recommends that City Council
[2:43:34] adopt a resolution for
[2:43:38] the secret exemption pursuant
[2:43:42] to secret Section 15301 and
[2:43:43] 15311 Staff further recommends
[2:43:43] that the Council adopt a
[2:43:44] resolution approving street
[2:43:47] name change pmt 3349350.
[2:43:47] This concludes today's
[2:43:48] presentation and staff and
[2:43:53] the lead applicants are here to
[2:43:54] answer any questions.
[2:43:54] All right.
[2:43:55] Thank you for the presentation
[2:43:55] Clark Please proceed with
[2:43:59] public comment.
[2:44:00] We have we have a few speakers
[2:44:06] here.
[2:44:06] Glad a doctor if you can please
[2:44:07] come up to the microphone and
[2:44:08] if I can have the following
[2:44:11] individuals please come up to
[2:44:12] the other reserved seats at
[2:44:13] the front.
[2:44:17] In fact DR. Avila, Doctor and
[2:44:22] room Room doctor You'll have
[2:44:22] two minutes each.
[2:44:23] Please proceed.
[2:44:23] I would like to all speak
[2:44:25] together.
[2:44:26] The 20.
[2:44:33] Would you like to speak
[2:44:34] together as an organized
[2:44:34] presentation?
[2:44:35] All right.
[2:44:38] We shall support We do live on
[2:44:39] that alley.
[2:44:44] The biggest issue right now is
[2:44:45] both delivery emergency
[2:44:45] services because it's such a
[2:44:51] distinct situation.
[2:44:52] The houses that are facing
[2:44:57] alley very difficult to find So
[2:44:57] we'll see Like those living
[2:45:03] around I know from the table
[2:45:03] that somebody called
[2:45:04] the emergency ambulance and
[2:45:05] they came to the house facing
[2:45:09] the street and were unable to
[2:45:10] find the house that they were
[2:45:14] called to entirely.
[2:45:15] So we are here to show support
[2:45:21] and hope to get that open.
[2:45:21] Thank you.
[2:45:27] That concludes your comments.
[2:45:28] Appreciate you being here.
[2:45:29] We'll go to those participating
[2:45:30] remotely starting the five
[2:45:30] minute timer.
[2:45:36] There's actually nobody nobody
[2:45:37] in the virtual queue That
[2:45:38] concludes public comment on
[2:45:38] this item.
[2:45:39] >> Okay thanks.
[2:45:43] The city clerk You MAY begin.
[2:45:44] Thank you for for taking
[2:45:45] the time and sitting through
[2:45:49] this afternoon's conversations
[2:45:49] .
[2:45:50] This is my district something
[2:45:51] we wouldn't normally go to
[2:45:51] The District seven Council
[2:45:52] member for Guidance and
[2:45:56] geographic courtesy He is not
[2:45:57] here so we'll go first to
[2:46:02] Councilmember Bunglers.
[2:46:02] Thank you.
[2:46:02] Yes.
[2:46:03] Since council our campaign was
[2:46:04] up on paternity leave with his
[2:46:04] baby.
[2:46:07] I'm happy to make the motion to
[2:46:08] approve recommendation to
[2:46:08] change the always name.
[2:46:09] >> Okay, we have Councilmember
[2:46:09] Bone.
[2:46:12] What about moving
[2:46:13] the recommendation And we go
[2:46:13] next to council member
[2:46:14] Campbell.
[2:46:19] I'm happy to second the motion
[2:46:19] .
[2:46:19] All right.
[2:46:20] We have a motion by
[2:46:21] Councilmember Campbell
[2:46:21] the second the motion to staff
[2:46:22] recommendation on here.
[2:46:23] I don't see anybody else in
[2:46:24] the lights.
[2:46:25] I've got a couple of questions.
[2:46:30] This is a request by private
[2:46:31] property owners or residents
[2:46:32] Who's going to pay for the new
[2:46:36] site?
[2:46:36] Thank you.
[2:46:42] This conversation was held with
[2:46:43] the Transportation Department
[2:46:48] and on AUGUST 7th of this past
[2:46:49] year we received confirmation
[2:46:50] from senior traffic engineer
[2:46:50] Gary Pentz in
[2:46:51] the Transportation Department
[2:46:54] that once approved by council
[2:46:55] this would become a named alley
[2:46:56] like the rest of the city and
[2:46:56] there is no charge for
[2:47:00] the street sign installation to
[2:47:01] the applicants that
[2:47:02] transportation will issue work
[2:47:02] orders to the streets divisions
[2:47:06] for the signs and it will be
[2:47:07] funded from the general fund.
[2:47:08] Okay I have to admit I have a
[2:47:11] little heartburn even though
[2:47:12] it's like 3500 bucks going
[2:47:18] forward given the very long
[2:47:18] needs list that we have
[2:47:19] the city to identify this as a
[2:47:23] problem for something to be
[2:47:24] solved.
[2:47:25] And so I have a little bit of
[2:47:25] heartburn about doing that
[2:47:29] especially with the military
[2:47:30] housing benefit from this.
[2:47:30] Apparently the military didn't
[2:47:35] offer to jump in on this
[2:47:36] conversation.
[2:47:36] I appreciate the comment about
[2:47:37] the emergency response.
[2:47:42] I don't want anybody to think
[2:47:43] that any of you or house in
[2:47:44] the back of a property that
[2:47:47] fronts on the street and has an
[2:47:48] alley behind it is dangerous.
[2:47:53] I don't know why at 911 call
[2:47:54] wouldn't be unified where
[2:47:55] the problem was going forward
[2:47:55] but I don't want anybody to
[2:47:59] think that it's dangerous But I
[2:47:59] do have these terrible,
[2:48:00] terrible budget conversations
[2:48:04] that we're having even $3,500.
[2:48:05] That's kind of a big deal going
[2:48:06] forward.
[2:48:11] So I wish the 25 people or
[2:48:12] the 25 people that did find out
[2:48:13] would have been willing to pay
[2:48:16] up for that sign to their
[2:48:17] mutual benefit.
[2:48:17] So but I just wanted to clear
[2:48:18] that up and bring that to
[2:48:24] everybody's attention so nobody
[2:48:24] else on the lights.
[2:48:25] We have a motion by
[2:48:26] Councilmember Paul Wilbert and
[2:48:27] a second by council member
[2:48:27] Campbell to move the staff
[2:48:32] recommendation As far as
[2:48:33] the voting system, please cast
[2:48:44] your vote That passes
[2:48:45] unanimously 8 to 0 with Council
[2:48:46] Member Campos And thank you
[2:48:50] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:48:50] All right.
[2:48:51] Congratulations on getting this
[2:48:51] action and look forward to a
[2:48:52] meaningful change update To
[2:48:56] clarify some of those
[2:48:56] questions.
[2:48:57] With that we will now take up
[2:48:57] non agenda public comment.
[2:49:01] The council members respect and
[2:49:02] appreciate the public input and
[2:49:02] are fully committed to
[2:49:03] protecting every participant's
[2:49:08] free speech right to counsel
[2:49:08] and committee meetings.
[2:49:09] Clerk Please proceed for public
[2:49:09] comment.
[2:49:12] Thank you for oral 2.7 on
[2:49:13] the public comment is an
[2:49:13] opportunity for members of
[2:49:14] the public to comment items
[2:49:15] that are not on the agenda but
[2:49:19] within the subject matter
[2:49:19] jurisdiction of the City
[2:49:19] Council.
[2:49:20] Each speaker will have two
[2:49:20] minutes.
[2:49:21] Please note if there are any
[2:49:26] more speakers on a single topic
[2:49:26] the maximum temperature will be
[2:49:27] 60 minutes.
[2:49:28] If you're in chambers please
[2:49:28] submit a speaker step to
[2:49:29] the front of the room in
[2:49:30] the clear box If you're
[2:49:31] participating remotely now's
[2:49:32] the time to raise your hand by
[2:49:32] pressing Star nine or the raise
[2:49:36] your hand icon If I can have
[2:49:37] Christina everybody Taylor
[2:49:38] please come to the front and
[2:49:42] then Anthony Rose If you can
[2:49:43] also come to the other reserved
[2:49:44] seats you'll have two minutes.
[2:49:48] Please proceed If you can just
[2:49:49] back into that microphone that
[2:49:50] is your timer will start when
[2:49:54] you speak I Hello everybody.
[2:49:55] My name is Christina Taylor and
[2:49:56] I am here representing
[2:50:00] residents from the thousand
[2:50:05] block of Granger Street 9215 4
[2:50:06] million Moreno is our district
[2:50:11] rep or city council member am
[2:50:12] Just to give you some brief
[2:50:15] history in 2022 my husband was
[2:50:16] in connection with MS. Moreno
[2:50:22] to repair resurface the street
[2:50:23] we live in the pci which is
[2:50:28] public record Our street hasn't
[2:50:29] been touched in over 30 years.
[2:50:34] I have pictures here you know
[2:50:34] this doesn't do justice.
[2:50:38] She's been there three years
[2:50:39] ago or so.
[2:50:40] We've been anxiously waiting
[2:50:44] for repair and just continue
[2:50:45] waiting.
[2:50:45] So I was proactive this year
[2:50:50] the beginning of the year I
[2:50:51] emailed Mayor Todd Gloria four
[2:50:51] times including MS..
[2:50:56] Moreno, the Department of
[2:50:56] Transportation.
[2:50:57] I am just here representing my
[2:51:02] community and my husband and I
[2:51:03] as well as every resident has
[2:51:07] paid and continues to pace
[2:51:08] taxes.
[2:51:09] So I think we need to make our
[2:51:14] voice heard and we will do what
[2:51:15] it takes to make some noise and
[2:51:19] get everybody's attention.
[2:51:20] With that being said, let me
[2:51:21] see Hopefully I'm not missing
[2:51:23] anything in these two minutes I
[2:51:24] did I would like to end with
[2:51:29] something from the media 2026
[2:51:30] State of the City address
[2:51:34] The voices of residents on
[2:51:35] the thousand thousand block of
[2:51:39] Granger Street and 1400 block
[2:51:40] of Illinois Avenue have gone
[2:51:40] unheard.
[2:51:41] Request for resurfacing in our
[2:51:44] neighborhood has been ignored
[2:51:45] for decades and then the mayor
[2:51:50] in his recent and that means
[2:51:51] roads are smooth sidewalks
[2:51:52] without trip hazard three
[2:51:56] lights that work anyway you
[2:51:56] know it Thank you Thank you for
[2:51:59] your time and hopefully we can
[2:52:00] give that concluding comment.
[2:52:11] Anthony Hello City Council I
[2:52:12] wanted to start today by
[2:52:13] thanking Johnny Lou Rivera for
[2:52:16] the proposed empty homes tax
[2:52:17] and I wanted to thank everybody
[2:52:18] else on the board that voted in
[2:52:23] favor of that including Kent
[2:52:23] Lee, including MR. Whitburn and
[2:52:24] I believe as well.
[2:52:29] And Joe LaCava and Raul Camille
[2:52:30] who's not here today.
[2:52:31] But I wanted to start by
[2:52:33] thanking y'all for pushing that
[2:52:34] legislation forward That means
[2:52:34] a lot to the people of San
[2:52:38] Diego and that will go a long
[2:52:39] way in making housing
[2:52:40] affordable for everyone here in
[2:52:40] San Diego.
[2:52:43] So thank you very much for
[2:52:44] doing that.
[2:52:44] Part of the reason why I'm here
[2:52:45] today is because I wanted to
[2:52:49] talk about Floc which has meant
[2:52:50] a lot to me and my safety or my
[2:52:51] feeling of lack of safety And I
[2:52:55] wanted to talk about how
[2:52:56] everything from a human being
[2:52:59] down to the smallest electron
[2:53:00] changes its behavior when it
[2:53:01] knows that it's being observed.
[2:53:05] And this issue is to me a
[2:53:06] violation of the Fourth
[2:53:06] Amendment.
[2:53:07] And I'm very concerned that
[2:53:10] activists like myself will no
[2:53:11] longer feel comfortable and
[2:53:16] safe doing the work and trying
[2:53:17] to keep everyone in our town
[2:53:17] safe with the issues that we
[2:53:22] love When we find out about
[2:53:22] issues like Operation Road
[2:53:23] flayer which just surfaced
[2:53:27] which we now know is a project
[2:53:28] of which ice is engaged with
[2:53:32] along with the dhs in targeting
[2:53:33] activists specifically Gene
[2:53:33] Wong and Arturo Gonzalez who
[2:53:38] are both friends of mine.
[2:53:39] And these documents were
[2:53:39] revealed in Gene Wong's court
[2:53:44] appearance down at the Superior
[2:53:44] Court a couple of weeks ago.
[2:53:45] And this is exactly what we
[2:53:49] were fearing.
[2:53:49] A couple of months ago when we
[2:53:50] were having this discussion
[2:53:51] about Floc in these chambers
[2:53:54] was that this technology could
[2:53:55] and would be utilized to begin
[2:53:59] going after activists.
[2:54:00] And so now I'm asking you all
[2:54:01] to please reconsider your
[2:54:04] position on Floc And please
[2:54:05] don't continue casting this
[2:54:06] mass surveillance dragnet on
[2:54:10] activists like myself and my
[2:54:11] friends.
[2:54:11] >> Thank you.
[2:54:12] Thank you for that concluding
[2:54:12] comment.
[2:54:13] So in the meantime we're going
[2:54:16] to those participating
[2:54:16] remotely.
[2:54:17] We currently have eight
[2:54:18] speakers with their hands
[2:54:18] raised starting with Terri and
[2:54:22] Scully.
[2:54:23] Please unmute After that will
[2:54:24] be Francine Maxwell Terri and
[2:54:26] please proceed.
[2:54:27] Good afternoon City of City
[2:54:28] Council.
[2:54:32] My name is Terri Skelly.
[2:54:33] I'm a planning group member, a
[2:54:33] parent and a public health
[2:54:37] educator.
[2:54:38] Last week kp we interviewed
[2:54:39] Grady's Children's Hospital
[2:54:43] pediatrician DR. Natalie Long
[2:54:46] regarding the increase of 600
[2:54:47] adolescents to its emergency
[2:54:51] room in 2025 because they
[2:54:51] needed treatment of some kind
[2:54:52] for their cannabis use.
[2:54:56] She said that and I quote Prior
[2:54:57] to 2020 we were only seeing a
[2:55:02] handful of adolescent a year,
[2:55:02] maybe 20 or 30.
[2:55:03] Cannabis products are far more
[2:55:07] potent today than what previous
[2:55:08] generations were exposed to.
[2:55:12] End quote.
[2:55:13] Pbs interviewed DR. Lab in
[2:55:14] response to the new research
[2:55:17] published in the Journal of
[2:55:18] American Medical Association
[2:55:19] regarding cannabis use with
[2:55:23] increased risk for serious
[2:55:24] mental health conditions.
[2:55:24] The strongest associations
[2:55:28] the study found was for
[2:55:29] psychotic and bipolar disorders
[2:55:33] where the risk was about
[2:55:33] doubled.
[2:55:34] And importantly teens reported
[2:55:38] on their cannabis use about 1
[2:55:38] to 2 years before their mental
[2:55:43] health diagnosis.
[2:55:44] Again, DR. Lab is low but is
[2:55:49] quoted and I quote We see this
[2:55:49] public health crisis emerging
[2:55:50] in children and young adults
[2:55:54] with early initiation of
[2:55:55] cannabis use.
[2:55:55] End quote.
[2:55:59] I think we as residents need to
[2:56:00] ask ourselves what this early
[2:56:04] use marijuana means for
[2:56:05] the long term well-being of our
[2:56:06] younger residents and the many
[2:56:10] who care about them and take
[2:56:11] responsibility for reducing
[2:56:14] visibility and promotions that
[2:56:15] come with selling marijuana
[2:56:15] here in our city.
[2:56:20] Thank you for hearing me this
[2:56:20] afternoon.
[2:56:21] Thank you.
[2:56:21] Next is Francine Maxwell.
[2:56:25] If you can please unmute.
[2:56:26] After that is medicine Francine
[2:56:30] Maxwell Southeastern San Diego
[2:56:30] resident.
[2:56:31] I think I heard from
[2:56:34] the diocese today that we want
[2:56:35] the community to feel safer and
[2:56:36] so this council should be
[2:56:40] asking why they're not getting
[2:56:41] more updates from the dpp.
[2:56:45] We are extremely excited to
[2:56:46] have an executive director.
[2:56:46] But you haven't shared with
[2:56:47] the community why we don't have
[2:56:50] our attorney.
[2:56:51] We have been in meet and Confer
[2:56:52] for almost three years so that
[2:56:55] also erodes the trust.
[2:56:56] We completely understand that
[2:56:57] we will be in meet and confer
[2:56:57] for a while.
[2:57:01] But again any opportunity to
[2:57:01] share information with
[2:57:05] the community on where we are
[2:57:06] because the cp does not have
[2:57:10] their own attorney and that's
[2:57:11] what that's what we voted for.
[2:57:16] And so again we want to build
[2:57:16] trust and not having an
[2:57:17] attorney doesn't do that.
[2:57:21] But what could build trust and
[2:57:21] what should open up
[2:57:22] the communication with
[2:57:25] the council along with
[2:57:26] the community is that post is
[2:57:29] in town MARCH 3rd, fourth and
[2:57:30] fifth and some of our San Diego
[2:57:34] pd MAY be in those particular
[2:57:34] conversations and in those
[2:57:35] presentations.
[2:57:38] And so we need to be educated
[2:57:39] and make sure that if people
[2:57:43] have the time can go on MARCH
[2:57:44] 3rd, fourth and fifth down to
[2:57:45] the post meeting which is going
[2:57:49] to be down at Caltrans, very
[2:57:50] important opportunity to find
[2:57:53] out about other officers that
[2:57:54] MAY help educate people and get
[2:57:58] them to file more complaints
[2:57:59] against some of our officers so
[2:58:00] that we can change some of
[2:58:03] the training, love
[2:58:04] the direction that we're going
[2:58:04] in for training.
[2:58:09] But sometimes training is just
[2:58:09] not enough.
[2:58:10] There's an undergird and
[2:58:10] there's a lot of private
[2:58:13] conversations.
[2:58:14] There's a lot of back door
[2:58:15] conversations going on But
[2:58:18] you're not holding a hearing
[2:58:18] with the constituents and
[2:58:19] you're not holding town halls
[2:58:20] on public safety.
[2:58:24] So again, let's let's let's
[2:58:24] dive in and let's build trust
[2:58:26] and have hard conversations in
[2:58:32] safe places.
[2:58:33] Madison if you can please
[2:58:33] unmute after that is Andrea in
[2:58:36] Madison Please unmute.
[2:58:36] >> Okay.
[2:58:37] Thank you.
[2:58:37] Good afternoon.
[2:58:41] City Council members.
[2:58:42] I'm here this afternoon as a
[2:58:43] community member concerned
[2:58:46] about an issue affecting young
[2:58:47] people in San Diego which is
[2:58:51] the rise in use of inhalants
[2:58:51] including nitrous oxide
[2:58:52] products commonly known as
[2:58:52] whippets.
[2:58:56] These products are inexpensive,
[2:58:57] widely available and often
[2:59:01] perceived by teens as harmless
[2:59:01] because they're sold legally
[2:59:02] for culinary purposes.
[2:59:06] But when misused, inhaling
[2:59:07] nitrous oxide can deprive
[2:59:11] the brain of oxygen in seconds
[2:59:11] That can lead to a loss of
[2:59:12] consciousness seizures,
[2:59:16] traumatic falls and in some
[2:59:17] cases sudden death.
[2:59:21] Repeated use carries longer
[2:59:21] term risks.
[2:59:22] Medical professionals have
[2:59:26] documented nerve damage spinal
[2:59:27] cord injury, vitamin b12
[2:59:30] depletion, cognitive impairment
[2:59:31] ,depression and psychosis all
[2:59:32] linked to heavy nitrous oxide
[2:59:36] exposure because it acts so
[2:59:37] quickly on the brain.
[2:59:38] It can also be psychologically
[2:59:41] reinforcing for adolescents
[2:59:41] whose brains are still
[2:59:42] developing.
[2:59:45] >> What makes this especially
[2:59:46] concerning is how accessible
[2:59:46] these products are.
[2:59:47] In many neighborhoods they are
[2:59:51] sold in smoke shops alongside
[2:59:51] other intoxicating substances.
[2:59:55] We are normalizing retail
[2:59:56] environments that cluster mind
[3:00:00] altering products together and
[3:00:01] our youth are paying attention.
[3:00:02] As a city we often talk about
[3:00:05] mental health and equity and
[3:00:06] preventing youth access to
[3:00:09] harmful inhalants fits squarely
[3:00:10] within those goals.
[3:00:10] I encourage the Council to
[3:00:15] examine enforcement retailers
[3:00:15] education and whether
[3:00:16] additional safeguards might be
[3:00:20] needed to limit youth access
[3:00:20] and reduce bulk sales that
[3:00:21] clearly signal misuse.
[3:00:25] Brain development continues
[3:00:25] into the mid-twenties.
[3:00:26] The decisions we make about
[3:00:31] retail environments and public
[3:00:31] health protections matter.
[3:00:32] >> Thank you.
[3:00:32] Thank you.
[3:00:35] The five minute timer did
[3:00:35] conclude during her comment.
[3:00:36] There were eight people in
[3:00:37] the queue and no additional
[3:00:39] speakers will be taken after
[3:00:39] those eight.
[3:00:40] Next is Andrea evening and
[3:00:41] after that is phone number
[3:00:44] ending and 8707 for 99.
[3:00:44] Please proceed Andrea.
[3:00:51] Is Andrea ebbing and I am a
[3:00:52] mother of three beautiful girls
[3:00:57] who were all abducted from San
[3:00:57] Diego.
[3:00:58] They're in two separate states
[3:00:58] with two felony charge
[3:01:01] perpetrators of domestic
[3:01:02] violence.
[3:01:02] With me as their name victim.
[3:01:06] So my daughters were ripped out
[3:01:07] of their home away from each
[3:01:11] other, taken thousands of miles
[3:01:16] away from me and each other on
[3:01:16] a permanently suspended license
[3:01:17] by somebody who just had
[3:01:21] strangled me on video.
[3:01:21] My other ex, the one who paid
[3:01:22] for their shared attorney whose
[3:01:25] name is Ben Embry who is also
[3:01:26] an attorney and another case in
[3:01:30] which summer Stephan protected
[3:01:31] and defended only her husband
[3:01:35] and perpetrator who is a Rancho
[3:01:36] Santa Fe doctor.
[3:01:37] >> This woman was pushed to
[3:01:37] suicide.
[3:01:40] Her name is Alexander von
[3:01:40] Alexander von Tonder.
[3:01:44] She survived but she was
[3:01:45] abandoned too.
[3:01:46] We are traumatized And I know
[3:01:50] you got these emails and I want
[3:01:51] to know like it is you people
[3:01:54] sitting up there did not take
[3:01:55] my children.
[3:01:55] You didn't sell my children.
[3:02:00] Judge Paula Rosenstein did
[3:02:01] summer stuff and did Harold all
[3:02:01] of her Did you kill your mom?
[3:02:05] Did Billy Driver or did Kelly
[3:02:09] Thomas did did haul into fire
[3:02:13] did right So but when I'm
[3:02:14] reporting stuff like my ex's
[3:02:18] partner is an opioid dealer who
[3:02:19] had written 78,000 scripts and
[3:02:22] dead people and prisoners names
[3:02:22] and had rehab patients and
[3:02:23] homeless people pick them up
[3:02:27] and distribute those drugs and
[3:02:28] he only got 18 months for it
[3:02:29] After his sixth medical license
[3:02:33] revocation as well as Prakash
[3:02:34] Bashir, a psychiatrist that
[3:02:34] summer Stephan used to commit
[3:02:37] Nancy Sussman is also an opioid
[3:02:38] dealer And then these people
[3:02:38] continue to get contracts.
[3:02:42] I'm begging you guys to hold
[3:02:43] these people accountable.
[3:02:43] I don't know if you have
[3:02:46] the power to do it but I am
[3:02:47] begging you to hear my voice
[3:02:48] because we need each other.
[3:02:52] Thank you.
[3:02:52] Thank you.
[3:02:53] Next is 8700 if you can please
[3:02:56] unmute after that is 74998 700.
[3:02:57] There you go.
[3:03:03] I thank you.
[3:03:03] I join you out of the three.
[3:03:04] A couple of things before I
[3:03:06] make my point.
[3:03:10] PRESIDENT Thank you For what
[3:03:11] you said regarding the budget
[3:03:11] on that Ali naming item I
[3:03:15] really really appreciated that
[3:03:20] That was just such a little
[3:03:20] thing but it was a great
[3:03:21] statement.
[3:03:21] Thank you.
[3:03:25] Now I want to say this before I
[3:03:25] get to my main point I'm
[3:03:26] probably going to run out of
[3:03:26] time.
[3:03:29] City Clerk But anyway, so be it
[3:03:29] .
[3:03:30] San Diego County Water
[3:03:34] Authority.
[3:03:35] When are we going to wake up to
[3:03:39] them Now?
[3:03:39] I'm going to research this
[3:03:43] later But are they Do they have
[3:03:44] a vested interest and are
[3:03:49] legally obligated to do what
[3:03:49] they make us do with the 50% or
[3:03:53] if it to do with being they
[3:03:54] don't pay for it or whatever?
[3:03:54] What are they doing?
[3:03:58] Are they putting ourselves Are
[3:03:59] they just I don't get what's
[3:03:59] going on here.
[3:04:03] We have a great city attorney's
[3:04:04] office.
[3:04:07] Why don't they know legally
[3:04:08] obligated to do with these
[3:04:13] people And it's not a blessing
[3:04:13] to the people.
[3:04:14] It's the systems that they work
[3:04:18] with that they condone that
[3:04:19] make me so angry.
[3:04:20] So I'll have to wait and speak
[3:04:23] later.
[3:04:24] But I'll say something briefly.
[3:04:27] I'll speak on that Colorado
[3:04:28] River crisis article probably
[3:04:32] tomorrow.
[3:04:33] But I just want to say that if
[3:04:34] you go before the water comes
[3:04:38] out of the dams that's at
[3:04:39] the fence and within to
[3:04:39] reservoir which is 15 miles
[3:04:42] northeast of the city and then
[3:04:43] you go north in a canoe
[3:04:47] backwards look at that network,
[3:04:48] start with the snow in
[3:04:49] the mountains and throw our
[3:04:51] water down.
[3:04:52] You won't believe what's
[3:04:52] happening.
[3:04:57] It's not nice and we've got to
[3:04:58] do something about it.
[3:04:58] >> Thank you.
[3:04:59] Love to all Thank you.
[3:05:02] Next 27499 if you come please
[3:05:03] on mute After that is back you
[3:05:06] wrap for Bob Kozinski here.
[3:05:10] >> I've noticed that more and
[3:05:11] more city departments are using
[3:05:12] constant contact to send
[3:05:15] marketing email to citizens.
[3:05:16] So I did a search on constant
[3:05:16] contact abuses.
[3:05:20] Here's what and a summary that
[3:05:20] I got back said quote Constant
[3:05:21] contact has been associated
[3:05:25] with various abuses including
[3:05:26] credential phishing attacks
[3:05:26] where threat actors compromised
[3:05:30] accounts to send malicious
[3:05:30] email.
[3:05:31] These incidents highlight
[3:05:35] the risks of using shared email
[3:05:35] marketing platforms as
[3:05:36] compromised accounts can lead
[3:05:39] to widespread phishing attempts
[3:05:40] leveraging the platform's
[3:05:41] trusted reputation to deceive
[3:05:41] recipients.
[3:05:45] Cybercriminals have also abused
[3:05:46] content contacts infrastructure
[3:05:46] to create malicious links
[3:05:50] leading to credential theft and
[3:05:51] quote.
[3:05:51] So why is the city using
[3:05:54] constant contact to communicate
[3:05:55] with citizens?
[3:05:56] For example, the city clerk's
[3:05:56] website has a button that says
[3:05:59] quote Sign up for city council
[3:06:00] agenda and updates distribution
[3:06:00] list quote.
[3:06:04] But that link goes to constant
[3:06:05] contact pages.Com The city's
[3:06:05] Parks and Recreation department
[3:06:09] has a link title quote Sign up
[3:06:10] to receive meeting agendas news
[3:06:14] and updates end quote.
[3:06:14] But there sign up link also
[3:06:15] goes to constant contact icon.
[3:06:18] Why can't the city send its own
[3:06:18] email messages to citizens
[3:06:19] without involving a third party
[3:06:19] business?
[3:06:22] Similarly why are the City
[3:06:23] Council agenda archives
[3:06:27] maintained by Highland Cloud?
[3:06:28] If you go to the city Clerk's
[3:06:29] website City clerk Official
[3:06:31] Docs Ledgers Docs Brown Act
[3:06:32] you'll find that the current
[3:06:32] agenda in pdf format is there.
[3:06:33] It's beautiful.
[3:06:36] Thank you City Clerk.
[3:06:37] But none of the archived
[3:06:37] agendas are there.
[3:06:41] Instead there's a link to quote
[3:06:41] past agendas and minutes and
[3:06:42] that link of course redirects
[3:06:45] to Highland cloud.Com.
[3:06:46] Why is it that the city Clerk
[3:06:47] can post the current agenda to
[3:06:50] the city's own website but
[3:06:51] can't just leave it there as an
[3:06:52] archive?
[3:06:55] Why is the city paying private
[3:06:56] businesses to deliver public
[3:06:56] content?
[3:06:57] As we've learned from Torrey
[3:07:00] Pines Glider Port the mixture
[3:07:00] of government monopoly and
[3:07:01] private greed is never good.
[3:07:05] Please stop selling your
[3:07:06] citizens to private businesses.
[3:07:06] >> Thank you.
[3:07:10] Thank you.
[3:07:11] Next is Becky Wrap if you can
[3:07:12] please unmute Also if you raise
[3:07:15] your hand after the five minute
[3:07:15] timer we will not be able to
[3:07:16] take you today but you can
[3:07:17] definitely email your comments
[3:07:19] in the city clerk at San Diego
[3:07:20] and those will be distributed.
[3:07:21] Please proceed.
[3:07:24] Becky.
[3:07:25] >> Thank you and good afternoon
[3:07:25] Council PRESIDENT And council
[3:07:26] members.
[3:07:29] My name is Becky Rapp and today
[3:07:30] I'd like to draw your attention
[3:07:34] to a major new brain imaging
[3:07:34] study published in jama by
[3:07:35] researchers at the University
[3:07:38] of Colorado.
[3:07:39] This was the largest mri study
[3:07:43] ever conducted on marijuana and
[3:07:43] cognition testing more than a
[3:07:44] thousand young adults between
[3:07:47] the ages of 22 and 36.
[3:07:48] Findings are very concerning.
[3:07:51] Heavy marijuana use was
[3:07:52] associated with significantly
[3:07:56] reduced brain activity.
[3:07:57] 63% of users showed diminished
[3:08:01] neural response.
[3:08:02] The reduced activity was seen
[3:08:02] in parts of the brain
[3:08:05] responsible for executive
[3:08:06] control, attention and
[3:08:07] emotional processing.
[3:08:07] These are the very areas we
[3:08:11] rely on for judgment, impulse
[3:08:12] control and safe decision
[3:08:12] making.
[3:08:16] Young adulthood is a critical
[3:08:16] time for brain development and
[3:08:20] exposure to high potency
[3:08:21] marijuana which is being sold
[3:08:21] in our city's pot shops has
[3:08:25] serious consequences.
[3:08:26] I urge this Council to ensure
[3:08:27] that public education and
[3:08:31] prevention become a top
[3:08:31] priority.
[3:08:32] San Diego has an opportunity to
[3:08:35] lead with evidence based
[3:08:36] studies.
[3:08:36] So I urge this Council to
[3:08:40] consider what will the future
[3:08:41] look like look like in San
[3:08:41] Diego?
[3:08:44] If younger generations are
[3:08:45] suffering from preventable
[3:08:46] cognitive impairment.
[3:08:49] Thank you.
[3:08:50] >> Thank you.
[3:08:50] Next is John Stump.
[3:08:57] If you can please unmute the.
[3:08:58] Thank you.
[3:09:03] To be quick I want to talk to
[3:09:07] particularly the PRESIDENT And
[3:09:08] the council about the format
[3:09:12] and content of staff reports.
[3:09:17] The format and content of staff
[3:09:22] reports needs to be seriously
[3:09:22] reviewed to consider what's not
[3:09:27] in there and what's not in
[3:09:27] there is that free lunches and
[3:09:32] hidden subsidy.
[3:09:32] The council PRESIDENT Made a
[3:09:33] good point about the street
[3:09:37] side and its cost but of course
[3:09:41] those costs didn't include
[3:09:42] the cost to install and
[3:09:42] the cost to have that on
[3:09:46] the agenda today.
[3:09:51] Hidden subsidies.
[3:09:52] Many organizations who do great
[3:09:56] things get a free lunch.
[3:09:56] They get support from
[3:10:00] the council for their lease or
[3:10:01] their activity.
[3:10:05] But the council never considers
[3:10:06] what it costs to maintain that
[3:10:11] facility or activate.
[3:10:11] In the end I'll give you an
[3:10:12] example.
[3:10:13] You know the Lake Hodges thing
[3:10:16] is a clear example.
[3:10:17] One guy one group says we don't
[3:10:20] need like Hodges and we don't
[3:10:20] want to subsidize.
[3:10:24] That's a sound decision at
[3:10:25] the city.
[3:10:29] It's get we have SeaWorld which
[3:10:34] has a contract which provides
[3:10:35] for reimbursement of this to
[3:10:35] the city and the city costs
[3:10:39] associate it with SeaWorld
[3:10:40] activities But the other venues
[3:10:44] operate like the zoo my
[3:10:45] favorite and they don't
[3:10:49] reimburse the city for its cost
[3:10:53] just because they say we're
[3:10:54] going to bring in revenues
[3:10:59] really is not financial
[3:10:59] analysis that's betting on that
[3:11:04] Come okay Thank you very much.
[3:11:04] >> Thank you.
[3:11:05] Next is Judy Strang If you can
[3:11:08] please unmute.
[3:11:09] >> Good afternoon City Council.
[3:11:13] Thank you for this opportunity
[3:11:14] to share some thoughts I've
[3:11:14] had.
[3:11:17] We are planning our afterschool
[3:11:18] program for mentoring and
[3:11:22] touring of bike lanes for
[3:11:23] elementary school students.
[3:11:24] And as such I receive a lot of
[3:11:28] information about research
[3:11:29] going on for teens and a lot of
[3:11:33] information regarding
[3:11:33] the challenges they face And
[3:11:34] since I work with them every
[3:11:38] day I get to see it firsthand.
[3:11:39] A previous speaker mentioned a
[3:11:43] research that's just come out
[3:11:43] and reported in the Journal of
[3:11:44] the American Medical
[3:11:47] Association And I'd like to
[3:11:48] tell you a little bit more
[3:11:49] about it because it gets to
[3:11:49] the heart of some of
[3:11:52] the questions that we've had
[3:11:52] regarding marijuana use and
[3:11:56] mental health issues which
[3:11:57] causes what?
[3:11:57] This is a research using Kaiser
[3:12:02] Permanente health system in
[3:12:06] Northern California.
[3:12:07] 460,000 teenagers were followed
[3:12:10] until they were 25 years old.
[3:12:11] They were asked about their
[3:12:15] marijuana use and then later if
[3:12:15] they had mental health issues
[3:12:16] they were trying to understand
[3:12:20] what came first.
[3:12:20] So they did not include in
[3:12:21] the study anyone who was
[3:12:25] already showing signs of mental
[3:12:25] health issues.
[3:12:26] They could just wanted to make
[3:12:29] the connection between cannabis
[3:12:30] use and mental health issues.
[3:12:31] So they found that there was a
[3:12:34] high number of teens who began
[3:12:35] cannabis use as young teens who
[3:12:38] later manifest in mental health
[3:12:43] issues.
[3:12:43] And particular the two they
[3:12:44] noticed were the psychotic
[3:12:48] disorders like schizophrenia as
[3:12:48] well as bipolar.
[3:12:53] These two particular diseases
[3:12:53] are extremely expensive to
[3:12:58] treat and debilitating for
[3:12:58] everyone around them.
[3:12:59] i think it becomes ever more
[3:13:02] important for us to understand
[3:13:03] the role of marijuana in
[3:13:03] the role of our young people as
[3:13:07] they travel this journey to
[3:13:08] adulthood.
[3:13:08] >> Thank you.
[3:13:09] Thank you.
[3:13:13] Next is Barbara Gordon If you
[3:13:13] can please unmute Barbara.
[3:13:17] Your final speaker.
[3:13:17] >> Good afternoon.
[3:13:22] I am here today to urge you to
[3:13:22] address the alarming rise in
[3:13:27] tobacco pouches such as Xen and
[3:13:27] their impact on our youth.
[3:13:31] These products marketed by
[3:13:32] the tobacco industry as tobacco
[3:13:36] free contain but that contain
[3:13:37] nicotine are often perceived as
[3:13:40] harmless particularly by
[3:13:41] younger people.
[3:13:42] Our high school and college
[3:13:45] campuses are littered with
[3:13:46] these packages.
[3:13:46] These the low risk of
[3:13:50] perception has led to
[3:13:51] the increase of experimentation
[3:13:54] and addiction among adolescents
[3:13:55] jeopardizing their health and
[3:14:00] future nicotine pouches during
[3:14:00] adolescence can cause
[3:14:01] significant cognitive
[3:14:04] impairment and negatively
[3:14:05] affect in attention learning
[3:14:09] and impulse control.
[3:14:10] Furthermore, young people who
[3:14:11] use tobacco pouches are more
[3:14:14] likely to transition to
[3:14:15] traditional cigarets marijuana
[3:14:20] and perpetuating the cycle of
[3:14:21] addiction and health risk.
[3:14:21] The flavored varieties of these
[3:14:25] products further entice youth
[3:14:25] masking the harshness of
[3:14:30] tobacco making it easier for
[3:14:30] them to start using.
[3:14:31] I am asking the City Council to
[3:14:34] consider a public service
[3:14:35] campaign or initiative to raise
[3:14:40] the awareness about the dangers
[3:14:41] of these tobacco pouches.
[3:14:41] By working together we can
[3:14:45] foster a healthy environment
[3:14:46] for our youth protecting them
[3:14:49] from the manipulative tactics
[3:14:50] of the tobacco industry and
[3:14:54] ultimately reducing
[3:14:55] the prevalence of tobacco use
[3:14:55] in our community.
[3:15:00] Thank you for letting me speak.
[3:15:00] >> Thank you.
[3:15:01] That does conclude our agenda
[3:15:04] Public comment for this meeting
[3:15:04] .
[3:15:05] All right.
[3:15:05] Thank you, City Clerk.
[3:15:09] Does the city attorney have
[3:15:10] anything to report out from
[3:15:10] closed session?
[3:15:11] There is nothing to report out
[3:15:12] from closed session.
[3:15:14] All right.
[3:15:14] Thank you for confirming that.
[3:15:15] We will now adjourn council to
[3:15:16] the regularly scheduled council
[3:15:19] meeting on Tuesday MARCH 3rd,