[13:47] and All right good morning [13:48] everyone. [13:53] I will now call the City [13:53] Council meeting of Tuesday [13:54] MARCH 10th 2026 to order Clerk [13:55] Please call the roll. [13:59] Thank you. [14:00] Council PRESIDENT Council [14:00] Member Campbell Dear [14:01] Councilmember Whipper here [14:05] Councilmember Foster here [14:06] Council Member Yvonne Wilpert [14:10] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee [14:11] Councilmember Campo [14:12] Councilmember Moreno Present [14:16] Council Isla Dara and Council [14:17] PRESIDENT Look and also [14:18] attending the meeting our Chief [14:23] Deputy City Attorney Gary new [14:24] four independent budget analyst [14:24] Charles Monaco a Council [14:25] Affairs advisor the Mayor's [14:28] office Code advisor and myself [14:29] your city clerk Diana Fuentes. [14:29] Thank you. [14:30] Council presidents All right. [14:30] Thank you. [14:31] A quorum is now present. [14:34] We will begin this morning with [14:34] the acknowledgment and [14:35] the Pledge of Allegiance led by [14:35] council member Moreno. [14:38] Please stand. [14:39] We respectfully acknowledge [14:44] that the culmination or [14:44] the original inhabitants of [14:45] the Unceded land now known as [14:50] San Diego despite enduring [14:51] the horrors of genocide and [14:51] colonization, the Kumara spirit [14:55] remains unbroken. [14:56] We honor the resilience of [14:57] their ancestors who fought to [14:58] protect their culture and land [15:02] Today they carry their legacy [15:03] forward ensuring that their [15:03] traditions continue to thrive [15:07] and gratitude and strength We [15:08] stand with the coming nation [15:08] connected to our past and [15:13] committed to a thriving future [15:13] . [15:14] Please raise the flag Put your [15:15] hand over your heart and repeat [15:15] after me. [15:19] I pledge allegiance to the flag [15:20] of the United States of America [15:24] and to the Republic for which [15:24] it stands one nation under GOD, [15:25] indivisible with liberty and [15:33] justice for all. [15:33] All right. [15:39] So yesterday afternoon we had [15:40] to adjourn our council meeting [15:40] during non agenda public [15:44] comment because we were losing [15:45] quorum. [15:45] There were six speakers left in [15:46] the queue at the moment We [15:50] adjourned this morning we will [15:51] be letting those six speakers [15:51] provide their non agenda public [15:55] comment before we continue with [15:56] our regularly scheduled [15:56] business our regular non agenda [16:01] public comment will be taken at [16:02] the end of this morning [16:02] sessions as is the usual case. [16:07] So with that clerk please go [16:07] over how the public can offer [16:08] their testimony and continued [16:12] with the trailed non agenda [16:12] public comment for the six [16:13] speakers from yesterday's [16:13] meeting. [16:14] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT. [16:17] Just as a reminder you will be [16:18] having two minutes each and per [16:19] rule 2.7 non agenda public [16:20] comment is an opportunity for [16:23] members of the public to [16:24] comment on items that are not [16:25] on the agenda but within [16:25] the subject matter jurisdiction [16:29] of the City Council. [16:30] If you are one of the six that [16:31] was on the queue yesterday I do [16:31] have those annotated please [16:35] raise your hand now by tapping [16:35] a raise your hand icon or if [16:38] you are calling participant [16:39] star nine As mentioned only [16:39] these six will be taken now [16:43] the others will be taken during [16:44] the regularly scheduled time [16:45] starting with John Stump. [16:49] If you can please unmute. [16:54] >> Hey, good morning. [16:55] Happy days. [16:56] You know after yesterday's [17:00] meeting I reflected on [17:05] the homecoming ceremony for [17:11] Jesse Jackson and the Bloody [17:16] Sunday crossing of the Pettus [17:20] Bridge and seeing how much [17:25] progress we had made. [17:31] >> And I was reflecting on that [17:32] during the period I was already [17:36] a high school and as a kid and [17:41] very active and reflecting on [17:42] that and reflecting on [17:43] yesterday's meeting, I was very [17:48] disappointed that the idea and [17:52] council did not require any [17:53] report concerning race and [18:03] equity participation of [18:03] the 68,000 employees if you [18:08] included contractors and what [18:14] was a race, sex age and all [18:18] those other factors. [18:19] And particularly what I was [18:20] disappointed from was that my [18:24] council districts District four [18:25] District nine didn't ask how [18:30] many of the zoo employees at [18:35] the are from District four and [18:36] District nine. [18:36] Why is the council not [18:41] concerned about employment [18:41] participation from their [18:46] council districts? [18:47] You know there should have been [18:51] a report that said 600 to 800 [18:56] people were employed from Henry [18:56] Foster and shot in those [19:01] district Each But there's no [19:02] data on that. [19:03] I guess the progress we made [19:06] crossing the Pettus Bridge is [19:07] falling away. [19:07] >> Thank you very much. [19:08] Thank you. [19:12] Next is phone number ending in [19:16] 7499 if you can please unmute [19:19] 7499 after that will be initial [19:20] 749 Please proceed. [19:25] >> Bob Kozinski here. [19:26] The Torrey Pines glider port [19:27] has been a world famous hang [19:28] gliding site since the 1970s. [19:29] That land is owned by the city [19:30] of San Diego and is part of [19:34] the Torrey Pines City Park. [19:35] But the city doesn't manage [19:36] the Torrey Pines Glider Park as [19:36] a city park. [19:40] Instead the city under Joe [19:40] LaCava and Todd Gloria leases [19:41] our city park to a private [19:45] business and allows that [19:46] business to ride roughshod over [19:46] citizens rights to use their [19:49] own city park. [19:50] Imagine if the city of San [19:51] Diego leased your own favorite [19:55] beach or park to a private [19:56] business and allowed that [19:56] business to charge money to use [19:57] the park or beach. [20:01] Imagine if the city leased your [20:01] favorite park to a business and [20:02] allowed that business to refuse [20:05] service to anyone they wanted. [20:06] Imagine if the city leased your [20:07] favorite park to a business and [20:08] allowed that business to [20:11] require membership in a private [20:12] club to use our city land. [20:16] And imagine if that club could [20:17] expel anyone they wanted for [20:17] any reason. [20:18] That's what's been happening at [20:21] the Torrey Pines Glider Park [20:22] for decades. [20:23] Essentially the city is given [20:26] absolute power over our park to [20:26] a business. [20:27] And we all know that absolute [20:28] power corrupts absolutely. [20:32] There's been a long history of [20:32] bullying accidents and even [20:33] deaths at that site under that [20:36] business. [20:37] Yet Todd Gloria, Joe LaCava and [20:38] this entire city council look [20:42] the other way. [20:42] So far both the Lloyd Town [20:43] Council and Longshoreman's [20:44] Association have submitted [20:46] written letters to Joe LaCava [20:46] requesting an improvement of [20:47] the situation. [20:51] Among their recommendations are [20:51] reestablishing the Torrey Pines [20:52] City Park Advisory Board and [20:56] replacing the abusive insurance [20:56] requirements with a simple [20:57] waiver. [20:57] We know that the waiver [20:58] solution works because [21:01] the county of Los Angeles has [21:02] been using that exact same [21:03] solution at Dockweiler Beach [21:06] hang gliding site since 217. [21:07] Yet Todd, Gloria and Joe LaCava [21:10] continue to dodge the most [21:11] obvious and sensible solution [21:12] The city should never be [21:12] leasing our natural public land [21:16] to a private business. [21:17] I'm again for the hundredth [21:18] time asking Todd, Gloria and [21:20] Joe LaCava to implement [21:21] the Torrey Pines waiver and [21:22] reactivate the Torrey Pines [21:22] City Park Advisory Board. [21:26] Thank you. [21:26] >> Next is Anish. [21:30] If you can please you. [21:31] Hi, My name is Aneesh. [21:36] My name is And I'll be [21:37] continuing what my friend [21:38] Jonathan talked about yesterday [21:40] during the non agenda public [21:41] comment which is about the lack [21:42] of quality waste resources for [21:45] residents in San Diego. [21:46] Specifically I'll be talking [21:47] about potential changes that [21:47] could be implemented to bring a [21:50] greater awareness and educate [21:51] the public about property waste [21:52] disposal while also simplifying [21:52] things for them. [21:55] So some things that we thought [21:56] about was that our local [21:57] government could have some type [21:57] of awareness campaign for [22:00] educating the public on [22:01] property waste disposal [22:01] practices because we held a [22:06] e-waste drive at the ucsd [22:07] campus the other week and we [22:07] found that the majority of [22:11] people have no idea of how to [22:12] properly dispose of the waste [22:13] and tend to just throw them in [22:13] the regular trash. [22:15] This could be done through [22:16] social media or something as a [22:16] pamphlet sent to every [22:17] residents. [22:21] We know that there is an annual [22:21] flier which is the What Goes [22:22] Where guide sent to San Diego [22:23] residents which details proper [22:26] waste disposal practices. [22:26] But there's only a very small [22:27] section about bringing quote [22:31] unquote household hazardous [22:31] waste to more and more [22:32] household hazardous waste [22:33] transfer facility. [22:35] But we believe there should [22:36] also be a paragraph of [22:37] information being more specific [22:37] about the negative effects of [22:41] improper disposal which could [22:41] lead the public to making [22:42] better decisions on waste [22:45] disposal and understanding what [22:46] it does to the environment. [22:47] Another program which we think [22:50] could possibly be implemented [22:51] is having like we know that [22:52] there's a weekly like the waste [22:56] management trucks that come and [22:56] pick up the recycling of [22:57] the waste every week. [22:58] But and so we we think that [22:58] there should also be a e-waste [23:01] specific like truck or some [23:01] type of pickup service which [23:05] happens like maybe twice a year [23:06] so that it'd be simpler for [23:07] residents rather than them [23:07] having to take appointments [23:11] with facilities and having to [23:11] drive to these locations and [23:12] possibly like you know a lot of [23:15] time scheduling conflicts. [23:16] Once again thank you for giving [23:17] an opportunity to speak about [23:20] e-waste disposal here in San [23:21] Diego And I hope you take this [23:21] this content into [23:22] consideration. [23:25] Thank you. [23:25] Thank you. [23:30] Next is Andrea Ebbing? [23:35] Andrea, if you can please [23:35] unmute. [23:36] >> Hi, this is Andrea Ebbing. [23:36] I'm sharing some information [23:40] this morning that I really hope [23:40] the entire city. [23:41] Please pay attention to what [23:41] I'm saying. [23:44] This won't go over your head. [23:45] This is not going to be very [23:46] complex These I found. [23:49] I found quite a massive issue [23:54] in our budget last night. [23:58] I am somebody that found $142 [23:58] million of something called [23:59] other pay on transparent [24:00] California issued to city [24:03] employees which was not pension [24:04] which is not benefits which was [24:05] not overtime, which was not [24:08] regular pay. [24:09] No one has provided an answer [24:09] to it. [24:12] In 2024 we had 152 million of [24:12] their pay paid out to [24:13] employees. [24:17] I think whatever I'm about to [24:17] share right now I think I want [24:21] to on the record and this [24:21] should be mandated reporting [24:22] attached to this. [24:26] You can validate my claims on [24:26] Transparent California when I [24:27] looked up other pay. [24:31] There was an individual named [24:31] Sheryl Looney who was an admin [24:34] aide who made $537,000 in [24:39] the year 2023 Her regular pay [24:43] was very low and her other pay [24:43] was like $337,000 a year. [24:49] So she was a question mark. [24:50] I phone 952 records of a Looney [24:53] family all of which make [24:54] hundreds of thousands of [24:55] dollars in multiple different [24:58] roles throughout California. [24:58] However, that's not the worst. [25:02] What I found was last night [25:03] that our trash refuse [25:08] supervisor Kenneth Biggers was [25:09] as an employee that makes $0 in [25:11] the year 2024 but he makes [25:16] $148,000 and other pay as well [25:17] as 147 or something in an [25:17] overtime. [25:20] There's 103 employees in [25:21] the city of San Diego in [25:25] the year 2024 that made $0 in [25:25] regular pay high level [25:25] employees. [25:29] There are hundreds that made [25:30] less than $100 a year. [25:30] Okay. [25:34] So we have a huge issue that's [25:35] running through the payroll big [25:39] time. [25:39] >> Thank you. [25:40] Your time has concluded. [25:42] Our final speaker for the trail [25:42] the people from yesterday is [25:47] Becky Rupp. [25:47] Good morning. [25:48] My name is Becky Rapp and today [25:52] I'd like to discuss [25:53] the socially equitable cannabis [25:53] program presented at the Ed and [25:56] I r committee last week. [25:57] Was troubling that [25:57] the conversation revolved [26:01] around equity for some but not [26:02] all. [26:02] Our city is struggling [26:06] financially and it a decision [26:07] that requires city funds and [26:07] resources should be evaluated [26:11] to the highest level of [26:12] scrutiny. [26:12] Across California the data [26:16] shows that these programs have [26:16] produced very little. [26:20] Very few operating businesses. [26:21] A report titled Cannabis and [26:22] Crisis produced by researchers [26:25] using data from California [26:26] Department of Cannabis Control [26:26] studied the performance of [26:30] marijuana equity programs [26:30] across the state. [26:31] And findings raise serious [26:34] concerns about whether these [26:35] programs are actually achieving [26:36] their intended results. [26:39] These programs require [26:40] administrative staff oversight, [26:44] consulting services and grant [26:44] funding. [26:45] Yet the outcomes across [26:45] the state show that the number [26:49] of businesses that actually [26:50] open remains extremely small [26:54] yet costing the city a [26:54] significant amount of money. [26:58] In fact a Los Angeles Times [26:58] review of state cannabis [26:59] licensing data found that over [27:00] 90% of applicants in these [27:03] programs never even became [27:04] operating businesses before [27:08] Moving forward. [27:09] I urge this council to [27:10] carefully review the statewide [27:13] data and take an honest look [27:14] and consider how this program [27:15] could seriously our already [27:19] fragile financial situation. [27:19] >> Thank you. [27:19] Thank you. [27:24] That concludes public comment. [27:24] >> You're trilled from [27:25] yesterday's meeting. [27:25] All right. [27:26] Thank you, city clerk. [27:29] And again thank you to those [27:30] sextet and the patients for [27:30] returning this morning to [27:33] finish off not agenda public [27:34] comment from yesterday's [27:34] session. [27:35] So with that clerk please [27:38] introduce item 30. [27:39] >> Item 30 is an information [27:42] ceremonial item the 2026 city [27:43] of San Diego Women of [27:43] Distinction. [27:47] If you'd like to speak on this [27:48] item please be sure to submit a [27:49] speaker up to the front of [27:49] the room in the clear box. [27:52] Or if you're participating [27:52] remotely now's the time to [27:53] raise your hand by pressing [27:56] Star nine or the raise your [27:56] hand icon. [27:56] All right. [27:57] And please proceed with public [27:57] comment. [28:01] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. [28:02] I do not see any speakers here [28:09] in person for the ceremonial [28:09] item. [28:13] Just double checking. [28:14] We'll go to those participating [28:14] online. [28:18] You'll have one minute each for [28:18] the women's of distinction. [28:20] Lori Saldana if you can please [28:25] unmute. [28:26] Yes. [28:26] Good morning and [28:27] congratulations to all [28:27] the women who are working on [28:31] behalf of the City of San Diego [28:32] and beyond to earn the honors [28:35] that they have today. [28:36] I do want to point out that [28:36] these proclamations and [28:40] the ability for myself and [28:41] others to speak would not be [28:41] possible without lawsuits [28:42] coming against the city. [28:45] Several years ago when they [28:45] used to restrict speech during [28:51] proclamation bans and there's a [28:51] saying that well-behaved women [28:52] rarely make history. [28:55] So I'm very proud to be among [28:55] women who sued the city and [28:59] have had to do so multiple [29:00] times to make sure that we have [29:01] a chance to speak not only [29:04] positively and to congratulate [29:04] people but when questioning or [29:05] criticizing the city. [29:09] So proclamation like this are [29:09] important. [29:13] They're meaningful and they [29:14] also deserve full commentary [29:15] from everyone who wishes to [29:15] participate. [29:19] And I think women made that [29:19] happen without the women who [29:22] filed that lawsuit in 2018. [29:23] You would not be able to hear [29:27] people make comments right now [29:27] . [29:28] So congratulations again to [29:28] the women of distinction. [29:29] Thank you for that concluding [29:29] comment. [29:32] Next is Andrew Irving. [29:36] >> If you can please unmute. [29:36] This Andrea Irving [29:37] congratulations to all [29:38] the women who are being honored [29:40] today. [29:41] Thank you so much for your [29:42] strength and participation. [29:46] I want to honor the women that [29:46] have been destroyed by our [29:47] county and city of San Diego [29:51] and their children as well. [29:52] For example woman who gave [29:56] birth to a baby unexpectedly in [29:57] her bathroom passed out and [30:01] woke up and her child was [30:01] stillborn. [30:02] And our district attorney [30:05] Summer Stephan sent her to [30:06] prison calling it murder. [30:09] i also want to honor Alexander [30:10] Van Tonder who's whose husband [30:11] was a predatory doctor neighbor [30:15] of Summer Stephan and she [30:16] abandoned her after she was [30:20] abused terribly and she tried [30:20] to commit suicide. [30:25] Multiple cases in which Nancy [30:29] Sussman, for example a 72 year [30:29] old U.S. Attorney who Summer [30:30] Stephan created a fake case [30:33] against when her son died. [30:34] So she sent her to prison to [30:38] for two years with the fake [30:39] high speed chase. [30:39] >> Thank you. [30:40] Thank you And Kelly original If [30:42] you can please unmute. [30:43] Yes I would like to add some [30:47] women to this list one of them [30:48] being Andrea Epping. [30:53] Another being Evelyn Lopez, [30:53] another one being Jennifer [30:57] Royston and the list could go [30:57] on. [30:58] These are all women that should [31:01] be honored for having to be [31:02] tortured by the system, by [31:06] the city, by the county, by all [31:07] of the people that are supposed [31:07] to be there. [31:11] And clean to protect and care [31:15] about the well-being of others [31:15] . [31:16] So I would like to add these [31:20] women to and all of the other [31:21] women that in the county [31:21] actually you know what across [31:25] the world that have had their [31:25] children ripped from their [31:30] lives, some of them have had [31:30] their parental rights [31:35] terminated and some of them [31:36] have lost their children to [31:39] the negligence of the county [31:40] like Arabella McCormick. [31:40] She died. [31:44] You guys had to pay quite a [31:45] pretty penny for her. [31:45] So I just would like to keep [31:46] adding these type of women to [31:47] the list. [31:51] Thank you. [31:52] >> Thank you. [31:53] Next is 8700 If you can please [31:59] unmute 80 700 stars six to [32:04] unmute. [32:08] >> Thank you Joyce And you have [32:08] three. [32:09] Thank you for this beautiful [32:13] ceremony item. [32:13] It's just a great one. [32:18] And of course congratulations [32:19] to all these women of [32:23] distinction. [32:23] And I just want to add this [32:26] this just popped up a second [32:27] ago. [32:30] Every single woman's journey [32:31] every single human journey is [32:36] beautiful and it's sacred. [32:37] Thank you very much and have a [32:40] wonderful day. [32:41] >> Thank you. [32:44] Next is 7499. [32:47] And your final speaker on this [32:53] item, Bob, because this key [32:54] here I also want to echo [32:57] the comments of Laurie Saldana [32:58] about our ability to speak on [33:01] these proclamations In addition [33:02] to the women that Laurie [33:03] mentioned. [33:03] I'd like to thank the local [33:07] attorney Craig Sherman and his [33:07] Center for Local Government [33:12] Accountability that he created [33:12] . [33:13] As mentioned by Laurie Saldana, [33:13] this council had previously [33:17] passed all of these ceremonial [33:18] items without giving the public [33:21] an opportunity to speak. [33:22] The city would hand out [33:26] the items and basically [33:27] the people getting the items [33:28] would leave the council before [33:31] the council would hear any of [33:32] the people speaking on those [33:36] items who might want to endorse [33:37] or sometimes even oppose these [33:37] proclamations. [33:41] And then the city would have [33:42] already voted on them but [33:42] people would have already [33:46] gotten their awards before [33:47] the citizens got to speak. [33:47] So I want to thank the people [33:48] that Laurie Saldana you [33:51] mentioned and Craig Sherman and [33:52] the Center for Local Government [33:55] Accountability for giving us [33:56] the right to speak before these [33:57] agenda items. [34:00] >> And that does conclude [34:00] public comment on [34:01] the ceremonial item. [34:01] >> All right. [34:06] Thank you to a woman of [34:06] distinction in her own right. [34:08] >> Our city clerk the is. [34:13] >> Now I invite the now I [34:18] invite to kick off the ceremony [34:19] as well as present his honoree [34:19] the honorable mayor of the City [34:26] of San Diego Todd Gloria. [34:26] >> Thank you so much. [34:31] Council PRESIDENT And members [34:31] of the city council. [34:32] It is always a pleasure to join [34:36] you for this annual gathering [34:36] to celebrate women of [34:37] distinction here in the city of [34:37] San Diego. [34:40] First and foremost I want to [34:41] acknowledge and thank the women [34:41] who we are honoring today as [34:44] well as their friends and [34:45] family members who've come to [34:45] support them. [34:46] Thank you all for coming to [34:46] City Hall today. [34:49] I also want to acknowledge our [34:49] commissioners from [34:50] the Commission of the Status of [34:51] Women here at the City of San [34:55] Diego, many of whom are with us [34:55] today to celebrate our ten [34:56] honorees to our commissioners. [34:59] When you stand and wave I think [34:59] they're all here together. [35:00] Very good. [35:00] We have Gail, Susan, Wendy, [35:03] Natasha and Maryland. [35:04] >> Ladies, thank you for your [35:08] service and for your leadership [35:08] . [35:13] >> So for ten years now dating [35:13] back to my time in [35:14] the legislature, I've taken [35:16] the opportunity to mark women's [35:17] History Month to reflect on and [35:21] honor excellence amongst women [35:22] in our community. [35:22] Women whose leadership service [35:26] creativity and courage have [35:27] made a lasting impact on [35:27] the city of San Diego and [35:28] beyond. [35:31] You can see it in the mentor [35:31] who helps young people find [35:32] their path forward in [35:36] The Advocate who refuses to [35:36] accept that that is just how [35:37] things are in the entrepreneur [35:40] who creates opportunity for [35:41] others in the organization [35:42] the educator, the public [35:45] servant, the women who show up [35:46] again and again because she [35:47] believes that our community is [35:51] worth it Because when we tell [35:51] the story of San Diego how we [35:52] grow and how we solve problems, [35:56] how we take care of each other. [35:56] My fellow San Diegans, women [35:57] are not a chapter in that [35:57] story. [36:00] They are the authors of it. [36:01] So you need look no further [36:05] than this dais today to see [36:06] some of the great women who are [36:06] helping to lead our city. [36:09] And our honorees also represent [36:10] the very best of our city as [36:11] well. [36:15] Their impact is not abstract. [36:15] It is visible, very visible in [36:16] the lives that are improved in [36:19] the doors that are open and [36:20] the communities that are [36:21] protected in the families that [36:21] are strengthened and in [36:24] the communities that function [36:25] better. [36:25] Because these women decided to [36:29] step forward and lead to these [36:29] extraordinary women who are [36:30] here today. [36:31] I want to say that your [36:34] resilience, your dedication and [36:35] your unwavering love for our [36:39] city helps to make San Diego an [36:39] even better place for all of [36:40] us. [36:40] And it is because of you that [36:44] we continue to grow, thrive and [36:45] inspire future generations. [36:49] Today we gather to celebrate [36:49] you and the role that you play [36:50] in making San Diego the world [36:54] class city that we are. [36:54] And with that council PRESIDENT [36:55] It gives me great pleasure to [36:59] start our ceremony today by [36:59] recognizing the women of [37:00] distinction of citywide. [37:11] Maria Chavez. [37:15] Big sister Maria is going to be [37:16] our test case. [37:17] >> Our four of us are here, [37:17] right? [37:18] So camera is there for your [37:18] friends. [37:20] You can't join us today. [37:21] They can just make sure that [37:21] they see you. [37:22] Maria, thanks for being our [37:24] guinea pig. [37:25] My friends, let me tell you a [37:26] little bit more about Maria [37:26] Chavez. [37:27] She is the immigration legal [37:29] director at the Partnership for [37:30] the Advancement of New [37:30] Americans. [37:31] Many of you MAY know that [37:31] organization as partner. [37:34] She is also the owner of her [37:35] own immigration law firm Maria [37:38] Chavez La maria's efforts are [37:39] critical now more than ever to [37:40] provide high quality legal [37:43] representation to individuals [37:44] who are navigating some of [37:45] the most difficult moments of [37:45] their lives. [37:49] She represents clients in a [37:49] wide range of immigration [37:53] matters from removal defense in [37:54] immigration court to family [37:55] based petitions to humanitarian [37:55] remedies. [37:58] But let's be honest those words [37:59] do not truly capture all that [38:00] it means and all that she is [38:04] doing because the people that [38:05] Maria serves it's about keeping [38:07] a family together. [38:08] It's about a parent trying to [38:09] work and provide for their [38:09] family. [38:12] It's about a young person [38:13] trying to stay in school and [38:13] build a future. [38:14] It's about someone who is [38:17] seeking safety after [38:18] unimaginable trauma. [38:19] And it's about a community that [38:22] is trying to live without fear. [38:23] My friends, at a time when [38:24] the national rhetoric around [38:27] immigration is so divisive and [38:28] so inflammatory, we know that [38:29] Maria's leadership is [38:32] particularly meaningful. [38:33] She's bringing clarity, [38:33] compassion and expertise to [38:37] communities that too often face [38:38] fear and misinformation. [38:38] And she does not stop there. [38:42] Maria frequently educates [38:43] the public on immigration [38:44] issues, helps people understand [38:47] their rights under the law and [38:48] gives her time to immigrant [38:49] rights organizations across San [38:52] Diego including the Community [38:53] Law Project and the San Diego [38:56] Immigrant Rights Consortium. [38:57] See Diego Today we celebrate [38:58] Maria Chavez for her [39:01] professional accomplishments [39:01] and her unwavering dedication [39:02] to justice and to the community [39:05] that she serves. [39:06] We San Diego is a proud [39:07] binational city. [39:08] We are a city that has been [39:10] built by immigrants and we are [39:11] stronger because of that. [39:15] Economically, culturally and as [39:15] a community. [39:16] So Maria Chavez represents [39:19] those very values that make up [39:20] the bedrock of our city. [39:21] Her work has helped countless [39:24] families remain together secure [39:24] safety and build stable [39:25] futures. [39:25] It is truly an honor to [39:29] recognize her as our 2026 [39:30] citywide Woman of Distinction [39:30] honoree. [39:34] Please join me in recognizing [39:44] Maria Chavez Have more. [39:58] >> Maria thank you. [39:59] >> Council PRESIDENT I turn it [40:00] back over to you for your [40:00] presentation. [40:00] All right. [40:02] Thank you, Mayor And thank you [40:03] for initiating this program [40:03] several years ago. [40:07] I am honored to celebrate Karen [40:08] Bladen. [40:09] If you wanted to come up to [40:12] the mic Karen executive [40:12] director of Shoreline Community [40:15] Services District one 2026 [40:16] Woman of Distinction. [40:20] Karen began her career as a [40:21] professional ballet dancer with [40:22] the Milwaukee Ballet. [40:25] Prior to moving to San Diego [40:25] and focusing on community [40:29] development and empowerment in [40:30] 2016, Karen founded Pacific [40:31] Beach Street Guardians, a [40:35] social enterprise that employed [40:35] unhoused neighbors to care for [40:36] her streets, work for local [40:39] businesses and provide event [40:39] services. [40:40] This experience provided [40:44] members with job skills, [40:44] self-sufficiency and hope. [40:48] This model is one I hope [40:48] the city can duplicate with our [40:49] safe sleeping tenants. [40:53] In 2020 Karen came on board to [40:53] Shoreline Community Services [40:58] which was then a meal service [40:58] that Karen grew into a [41:02] comprehensive resource provider [41:03] that now includes a drop in [41:03] resource center at [41:06] the Compensation and Pacific [41:07] Beach Volunteer Community [41:08] Outreach to build support and [41:08] trust. [41:12] The Medical Respite hotel [41:12] program for individuals [41:16] released from a medical stay [41:16] and the community care crew [41:20] using her guardians experience [41:21] and recognize this resource [41:22] center is in the middle of a [41:25] single family neighborhood a [41:26] testament that you can provide [41:27] homelessness services and be a [41:31] good neighbor. [41:31] Karen is my nominee not only [41:32] because of her dedication to [41:36] service to others but because [41:36] of where and how she has been [41:37] successful. [41:40] As I said, Karen provides [41:41] services and service right in [41:45] the district one coastal [41:46] residential neighborhoods. [41:46] She built and maintained strong [41:51] networks in Pacific Beach, [41:51] Mission Beach and Lahaina [41:52] Shores by being communicative, [41:55] clear dedicated, proactive and [41:56] downright kind. [42:00] She is at every community group [42:01] meeting introducing, describing [42:01] and protecting her work and [42:04] the people she serves. [42:05] Karen focuses on similarities [42:09] rather than differences and as [42:10] it turns out we all want safe, [42:10] thriving neighborhoods for all [42:14] our neighbors. [42:14] And with that, join me in [42:18] congratulating Karen as a woman [42:19] of distinction in District one. [42:27] >> Thank you, Karen. [42:28] >> And with that I will turn it [42:29] over to Council PRESIDENT Pro [42:32] Tem Lee and his honorary. [42:32] >> Thank you, Council [42:33] PRESIDENT. [42:37] It is my honor to recognize [42:38] Jemma Samoa as the District six [42:39] honoree who is currently [42:41] serving her second term as [42:42] the PRESIDENT Of the University [42:46] City Community Association. [42:46] Upon her leadership, [42:47] the association has expanded [42:47] its engagement efforts [42:50] including hosting open [42:51] community hours, facilitating [42:51] direct conversations with local [42:55] representatives and launching [42:56] initiatives such as the Senior [42:57] Watch program to better connect [43:00] older residents with resources [43:00] and information. [43:01] Jim has also served as editor [43:04] of the Community Newsletter for [43:05] more than a decade overseeing [43:05] the coordination and [43:08] distribution of 6000 copies [43:09] throughout the community [43:10] through a strong volunteer [43:10] network. [43:13] Her record of service extends [43:14] well beyond her current role. [43:15] Since 1999, Jim has held [43:19] various leadership positions [43:19] with Spreckels pta, [43:20] the University City Little [43:23] League, The Educate Foundation [43:24] and the U.S. High School [43:24] Centurion Foundation [43:27] consistently contributing to [43:28] the strength of local schools [43:29] and neighborhood institutions. [43:32] She established the holiday [43:33] Adopt a family program at U.S. [43:34] High school to support families [43:35] in need helped form [43:38] the University City Fire Safe [43:39] Council to promote fire safety, [43:39] education and revitalize [43:43] the U.S. Garden Club, which now [43:44] serves more than 225 members. [43:44] I don't know where she finds [43:48] the time but she does all of [43:49] this on top of her day job at [43:52] the Vista Hill Foundation. [43:53] Java has been a pleasure to [43:53] work with in District six and [43:57] for all of those on my team, [43:57] our staff and many in [43:58] the community. [44:01] As a recent voice that helps us [44:02] work together and ensure that [44:02] we provide University City [44:06] the leadership it needs to move [44:07] forward together as a [44:07] community. [44:07] Through her sustained [44:11] leadership and civic engagement [44:11] she's demonstrated a clear [44:12] demonstrated a clear commitment [44:15] to strengthening community [44:15] institutions and fostering [44:16] collaboration amongst [44:16] residents. [44:17] And so this morning we are [44:20] proud to recognize her [44:21] continued dedication to public [44:21] service and her meaningful [44:26] contributions to the university [44:26] city community. [44:27] >> Please join me in [44:27] congratulating Jim Gemma's [44:35] small go to Councilmember [44:39] Campbell and her honoree. [44:40] Thank you so much. [44:41] Council PRESIDENT Council [44:44] PRESIDENT Pro Tem This year [44:45] District two woman of [44:49] distinction is Lynn Haimes. [44:49] Lynn has lived in Claremont for [44:50] 20 years, is an active member [44:53] of the community. [44:54] She works full time at a [44:55] company that provides backup [44:58] power for large entities like [44:59] hospitals in case of a power [44:59] outage. [45:03] But on top of that, Lynn is a [45:04] tremendously active community [45:04] volunteer. [45:07] In 2016 she joined [45:08] the Claremont Town Council [45:12] known as ctc for Claremont Town [45:12] Council which has many hundreds [45:16] of members and she's held many [45:17] roles over the past ten years [45:17] there. [45:18] She's currently vice PRESIDENT [45:22] Of the ctc and the PRESIDENT Of [45:22] the ctc Foundation. [45:27] As a member of the cdc, Lynn [45:27] established the Marina [45:28] Boulevard banner program. [45:32] The partnership with sd Genie [45:33] to have local artists beautify [45:36] transformer boxes in Claremont. [45:37] And she chairs the annual [45:37] Claremont Garden tour. [45:41] And she planned the Claremont [45:46] Neighborhood 75th anniversary [45:46] Sherie of Claremont birthday [45:50] party last summer as well. [45:51] She's also a member of [45:51] the committee that plans [45:52] the Claremont Family Day every [45:52] year. [45:55] The largest community event [45:56] that the ctc runs. [46:00] She has been honored by [46:01] the community as the Person of [46:05] the Year in the past and now [46:06] she is honored as woman of [46:09] distinction for District two. [46:10] Her service and dedication to [46:13] improving her community truly [46:13] makes her a woman of [46:14] distinction. [46:18] There is no test too small or [46:19] too large for Lynn to take on [46:20] and succeed and so I am so [46:23] grateful for her leadership. [46:24] As I know the entire Claremont [46:24] community is. [46:27] Thank you Lynn and [46:37] congratulations. [46:37] >> Next up council member [46:38] Whitburn Thank you, Council [46:38] PRESIDENT. [46:40] Thank you, Mayor And [46:41] congratulations to all of this [46:42] year's Women of Distinction. [46:46] This morning I am pleased to [46:46] recognize an extraordinary [46:47] woman whose work has left a [46:51] lasting mark on downtown's San [46:52] Diego and across our city. [46:52] District Three's 2026 Women of [46:56] Distinction. [46:57] Ruth and Dawn. [46:58] Ruth Ed is a visionary [46:58] entrepreneur. [47:01] Gallerist filmmaker and [47:02] cultural advocate who has spent [47:02] decades supporting artists and [47:06] bringing creativity and culture [47:07] into our community. [47:07] She's the founder of Exclusive [47:11] Collections Gallery which she [47:12] launched in the late 1980s and [47:13] which has grown into a [47:16] respected platform showcasing [47:16] art showcasing artists from [47:17] around the country and around [47:17] the world. [47:21] In recent years, Ruth, that has [47:22] played an especially important [47:23] role in the continued cultural [47:27] revitalization of the Gaslamp [47:27] Quarter. [47:28] As a proud member of [47:28] the Wrinkled Band of U.S.A. [47:31] Indians she made history as [47:32] the first Native American to [47:33] purchase property at [47:33] the Gaslamp Quarter. [47:36] Reclaiming space at an area [47:37] where Native people were once [47:41] excluded, she transformed [47:42] the historic Yuba Building into [47:43] a destination that celebrates [47:45] indigenous creativity and [47:46] entrepreneurship. [47:49] With the opening of her Native [47:49] Star Boutique in 2025 which [47:54] features fashion art jewelry [47:54] and products created by native [47:55] makers from around the country [47:59] through her galleries and [48:00] cultural events and [48:00] storytelling work, Ruth has [48:01] created a space that elevates [48:03] native voices, celebrates [48:04] indigenous culture and connects [48:05] people through art. [48:09] Ruth Ed, thank you for your [48:10] leadership, your creativity and [48:14] your commitment to uplifting [48:14] artists and communities. [48:15] On behalf of Council District [48:18] three it is our utter to [48:19] recognize you as the 2026 [48:19] District three woman of [48:20] distinction. [48:25] Thank you. [48:30] Next up council member Henry [48:31] Foster, the third and his [48:32] honoree Thank you Council [48:36] PRESIDENT. [48:36] And I want to first start by [48:37] thanking the mayor and my [48:38] council colleagues for [48:41] continuing the tradition of [48:41] recognizing women of [48:42] distinction during the Women's [48:45] History History Month and for [48:46] uplifting the women who [48:47] strengthen communities across [48:47] San Diego. [48:50] Congratulations to all of [48:50] today's honorees. [48:51] Each of you represents [48:55] the leadership, resilience and [48:56] service that Women's History [48:56] Month is meant to celebrate. [49:00] I am especially proud to [49:01] recognize District Four's [49:05] honoree La Rosa Webb, a proud [49:05] resident of southeastern San [49:06] Diego whose work reflects a [49:09] deep commitment to uplifting [49:10] our people and investing in our [49:10] community. [49:14] Through her leadership at Ramo [49:15] residence and her background in [49:18] business and organizational [49:19] psychology, La Raza has [49:20] dedicated her career to helping [49:23] others grow, thrive and find [49:24] opportunity. [49:25] La Raza has used art and [49:28] culture as powerful tools for [49:29] connection and awareness. [49:33] From her environmental art [49:33] initiatives to co-founding [49:34] The Block Club a space that [49:38] preserves and celebrates black [49:39] art and culture while also [49:43] providing a place for community [49:43] members to gather and [49:44] collaborate. [49:44] La Raza represents the very [49:48] best of district four through [49:48] creativity, leadership and a [49:52] strong commitment to community [49:53] . [49:53] It is my honor to recognize her [49:54] today as one of this year's [49:58] women of distinction. [49:58] >> Please join me in [50:06] congratulating La Raza when we [50:12] will now go to Councilmember [50:12] Van Wilpert and her honoree. [50:16] >> Thank you very much And [50:16] thank you again to all [50:17] the women who are here today. [50:18] I am very honored to be [50:21] recognizing that Dianne Weyrich [50:22] as district fives women of [50:26] distinction today for 34 years. [50:26] Dianne has dedicated her career [50:30] to the ymca of senior county [50:31] helping young people Thousands [50:31] of young people around our [50:36] region grow, learn and succeed [50:36] . [50:36] Over the course of those [50:37] decades. [50:38] She has become one of the most [50:40] respected leaders in gymnastics [50:41] in the community now only here [50:42] in San Diego but across [50:46] the entire state of California [50:46] today and serves as the program [50:47] director and head coach for our [50:50] very own Rancho Canyon Skeeters [50:51] in Escondido. [50:51] Ymca gymnastic programs where [50:55] she creates opportunities for [50:56] hundreds of young athletes [50:56] every month. [50:59] Through her leadership, more [51:00] than 700 youth participants are [51:00] learning new skills building [51:04] confidence in themselves, [51:05] developing friendships in a [51:06] supportive environment and [51:06] getting off of their devices. [51:09] Through her leadership she has [51:10] also earned recognition for her [51:13] competitive gymnastics teams of [51:14] more than 130 athletes helping [51:15] guide them through [51:15] the discipline and dedication [51:19] to sport required while [51:19] teaching lessons that extend [51:20] far beyond the gym. [51:23] Over the past year, Dianne has [51:23] especially stepped into an [51:24] important leadership role [51:27] across our ymca as [51:28] collaborative chair of [51:28] gymnastics department. [51:29] She has worked with colleagues [51:32] across the association to [51:33] strengthen programs and expand [51:33] opportunities for all young [51:37] athletes regardless of income [51:38] or where they live. [51:38] Recently Diane was honored with [51:39] a lifetime achievement award [51:43] from us gymnastics of Southern [51:43] California. [51:44] Recognizing the extraordinary [51:45] impact she has had on so many [51:50] young athletes and what stands [51:51] out most about Diane is [51:51] the lasting impact she has on [51:54] her young people that she [51:54] mentors. [51:55] We have been told that she [51:56] always comes to work with a [51:57] smile no matter how tired she [51:59] might be and she motivates [52:00] the young people to keep doing [52:01] their best every single day. [52:04] So for decades you have helped [52:05] build young athletes into [52:06] confident, resilient young [52:09] people in our community and we [52:09] very much appreciate you. [52:10] It is truly an honor to [52:11] recognize you today as District [52:16] five Woman of distinction. [52:22] We will now turn to [52:22] Councilmember Camp Hill and his [52:23] honoree Thank you Council [52:26] PRESIDENT And thank you to [52:27] the mayor and his staff for [52:27] organizing this great event And [52:30] congratulations to all [52:30] the honorees. [52:31] I am proud to announce this [52:32] year's District seven woman of [52:32] Distinction. [52:36] Alison Garner who is joined [52:36] this morning by her husband [52:37] Travis and her parents Randy [52:40] and Susan and her son. [52:41] Last year tragedy struck our [52:42] community when a plane crashed [52:46] in Murphy Canyon neighborhood [52:46] in tears into in the early [52:49] hours of MAY 22nd, 2025, 42 [52:50] families woke up to a [52:54] terrifying and uncertain [52:54] circumstance. [52:55] Some had lost their vehicles. [52:58] Some had lost their homes. [52:59] Some were significantly injured [53:00] and nearly lost their lives. [53:03] All of them were shaken by this [53:04] tragedy as our whole city was. [53:08] It was a heartbreaking morning [53:08] for everyone connected to that [53:09] neighborhood and it even had [53:09] global resonance. [53:13] And for those 42 families [53:13] directly impacted on Sample [53:14] Street in the middle of that [53:17] tragedy, Alison Garner stepped [53:18] forward. [53:18] Alison is the director of [53:19] Strategic Partnerships and [53:22] Military Relations for [53:23] the Armed Services Y.M.C.A. [53:23] Center. [53:27] She's also a military spouse [53:28] and mother herself. [53:28] Because of those roles and [53:29] because of the deep trust she [53:32] has built within the military [53:33] community, Alison became [53:34] the primary point of contact [53:37] and liaison for everyone [53:38] affected. [53:39] This work was personal for her [53:42] too because these were her [53:43] fellow military families people [53:44] living the same life that she [53:47] lives raising children in [53:48] the same military community she [53:48] has called home. [53:52] Alison advocated for them [53:52] tirelessly because to her [53:53] the military community is an [53:57] abstract. [53:57] Those are her family members [53:58] and her neighbors and the life [54:01] she lives every day. [54:01] She coordinated communications [54:02] between dozens of federal and [54:06] local agencies, organize [54:07] the distribution of donated [54:07] goods and ensure that every [54:11] single family had temporary [54:11] housing. [54:12] She also led long term recovery [54:16] efforts helping families find [54:17] new homes and even organizing a [54:17] two week scholarship to Camp [54:21] Hero for the children of [54:22] the impacted families. [54:23] That is why Alison represents [54:26] exactly what this recognition [54:26] is about. [54:27] She never sought the spotlight. [54:30] She's the everyday person with [54:31] extraordinary heart who when [54:32] tragedy struck her community [54:35] stepped forward and made sure [54:36] her neighbors were safe and [54:40] supported and not alone. [54:41] She made them know that they [54:44] mattered because of her [54:45] compassion and her leadership [54:46] and her quiet determination to [54:46] take care of others. [54:50] Our community was able to begin [54:50] healing after an unimaginable [54:54] tragedy. [54:55] What she will tell you that she [54:56] was just doing her job. [54:59] I know And those 42 family [55:00] knows and our city knows [55:04] the truth that you are a hero. [55:04] Alison. [55:05] Alison, you're a hero and we [55:06] are deeply grateful for your [55:09] service and your heart for this [55:09] community. [55:10] So I just want to say thank [55:10] you. [55:11] Thank you to your family for [55:14] your service and your sacrifice [55:15] And we are praying for you and [55:15] your family and all our [55:19] military families at this time. [55:20] And so it is my honor to [55:20] recognize you as our District [55:21] seven woman of distinction. [55:30] >> Thank you. [55:31] >> With that we will go now to [55:32] council member Moreno and her [55:35] honoree. [55:35] >> Thank you. [55:36] Congratulations to all [55:36] the women being recognized [55:40] today. [55:40] It's with great pleasure to [55:41] partner with the mayor every [55:42] year to recognize these [55:45] astonishing women from all over [55:45] San Diego. [55:46] And it is truly an honor to [55:50] recognize an extraordinary [55:51] leader, mentor, fearless [55:56] Chicana and advocate for young [55:56] people in District eight. [55:56] MS.. [56:02] Salt MRS. Soichi Alvarez. [56:03] >> Today we celebrate her as a [56:06] woman of distinction in [56:07] the city of San Diego a [56:11] recognition that reflects more [56:12] than 50 years of dedication to [56:12] helping first generation [56:16] students and their families [56:16] navigate the path to college [56:21] and beyond. [56:22] Now as director of the Graduate [56:22] Support Program and Activity [56:25] Prep, MS. Alvarez has guided [56:26] hundreds of young scholars [56:30] through middle school all [56:31] the way through college [56:31] graduation, turning the dreams [56:35] of higher education into real [56:36] opportunities and lasting [56:40] success not only changing [56:41] the lives of the students but [56:41] changing the lives of their [56:42] whole families. [56:45] As the daughter of immigrant [56:46] parents and first generation [56:50] college college graduate [56:50] herself, she understands [56:51] the journey firsthand. [56:55] Her commitment to community [56:55] also extends beyond her [57:00] professional work, including [57:01] being a mom, a good daughter, a [57:05] sister, a dear GOD mother. [57:06] Also years of volunteering at [57:10] the Sherman Elementary School [57:11] pta and serving as a Girl Scout [57:15] leader for Troop 6177 in Logan [57:16] Heights. [57:20] On top of all this mentoring [57:21] young young girls and helping [57:25] shape our future leaders, I [57:25] want to thank all the students [57:26] from Nativity Prep that are [57:29] here today to support MRS. [57:34] Alvarez. [57:41] >> It allows Grace herself [57:41] Familia Mira montes get [57:42] components saw children we so [57:44] Mama Super pac so stressed [57:45] Hermanas Jose Calexico this [57:50] week is going to assess her [57:50] location skills Torres learned [57:55] as we hear that business was [58:00] possible w I'm going to say [58:00] check out all of law [58:01] agreements. [58:02] Circuit All of law grows in one [58:02] matrimonial song Comparatives [58:03] So with that MS. Alvarez your [58:06] dedication has changed lives [58:07] and strengthened our community. [58:11] Congratulations on being [58:12] recognized Women of Woman of [58:13] Distinction and thank you for [58:16] everything that you do have [58:17] done and will continue to do [58:19] for the city of San Diego which [58:30] has got to Yes, Thank you. [58:31] >> And with that we will go to [58:31] council member Isla Rivera is [58:34] honoree All right thank you [58:34] council PRESIDENT Thank you [58:39] Mayor for doing this with us I. [58:43] Before I get started on Rama I [58:44] want to make sure I say [58:44] congratulations to all [58:45] the recipients today and I'll [58:48] give a special shout out to two [58:49] who do their work in District [58:49] nine. [58:53] Maria, thank you for your work [58:54] supporting immigrant [58:54] communities with Pena. [58:57] MRS. Alvarez thank you for your [58:58] work in District nine and [58:58] Nativity Prep. [59:02] As for Ramos, she is an [59:03] incredible community leader [59:03] with an incredible story As [59:07] the director of campaigns and [59:07] organizing Rummo works with [59:08] the leadership team at [59:11] the Partnership for [59:12] the Advancement of New [59:12] Americans to accomplish their [59:13] organizational priorities, she [59:16] trains and meets regularly with [59:17] Pena's organizers. [59:20] She was born in Mogadishu and [59:21] came to the United States as a [59:22] refugee and personally [59:22] understands the many [59:23] difficulties of adjusting to [59:25] life in a new country while [59:26] preserving her cultural [59:26] heritage. [59:31] She has led work with young [59:31] women from the Middle East, [59:32] Asia and Africa and founded [59:36] the International Refugee Girls [59:36] Association. [59:37] She worked as the executive [59:40] director of Somali Youth United [59:40] where she worked to ensure [59:41] young people acquire [59:42] the critical skills necessary [59:45] for success. [59:46] And she has shown a passion and [59:50] aptitude for increasing access [59:50] and exposure to steam for women [59:51] and girls throughout [59:55] the African Diaspora. [59:56] All of that is really important [59:56] work. [1:00:00] But what I want to say more [1:00:01] than anything is that Rameau is [1:00:01] an incredible advocate for her [1:00:04] community whether it's [1:00:05] supporting tenants rights or [1:00:06] immigrants rights and making [1:00:09] sure that her community is safe [1:00:10] from from the impacts of [1:00:14] surveillance or standing up to [1:00:15] the day care providers who have [1:00:15] been unfairly attacked in [1:00:19] recent months. [1:00:20] Rameau is an incredible example [1:00:23] of what a community leader can [1:00:24] and should be. [1:00:25] And she's doing this at a time [1:00:29] where community is increasingly [1:00:29] under attack. [1:00:30] And so from I want to say thank [1:00:33] you for doing that for not just [1:00:34] not backing down during this [1:00:35] time but standing even taller [1:00:38] and being even stronger. [1:00:39] All of San Diego benefits from [1:00:43] your advocacy and obviously [1:00:44] the folks who are closest to [1:00:48] you benefit in a great and a [1:00:48] great way as well. [1:00:49] But I just cannot say thank you [1:00:52] enough for the advocacy and [1:00:53] the leadership that you show [1:00:54] and what a great example of you [1:00:55] are, what a great example you [1:00:57] are of a woman who's making [1:00:58] history here in San Diego. [1:00:59] So thank you for all your [1:00:59] contributions and [1:01:09] congratulations. [1:01:09] >> All right. [1:01:14] Thank you to my colleague. [1:01:15] You know City of San Diego is [1:01:19] America's finest city because [1:01:19] of the work that these ten [1:01:20] distinguished women do And [1:01:24] every woman in our city does, [1:01:25] whether it's the everyday lives [1:01:29] of being a mother or spouse, [1:01:29] whether it's leaders of [1:01:30] industry, whether it's [1:01:34] the service providers, [1:01:34] the teachers and every segment [1:01:39] of what we call our city. [1:01:40] We are a great city because of [1:01:40] their work and I'm glad that [1:01:44] we're able to take a moment and [1:01:45] recognize these ten individuals [1:01:45] in particular. [1:01:48] But all of our all the women of [1:01:49] distinction of what makes us a [1:01:50] great city deserve to be [1:01:50] recognized. [1:01:54] But to conclude this segment, [1:01:54] let us join one more time to [1:01:55] recognize these ten women of [1:02:27] distinction [1:02:27] . [1:02:28] >> And with that, as you see [1:02:28] someone leading the door, this [1:02:32] is a ceremonial item. [1:02:33] No motion was required but we [1:02:33] will pause for group photos. [1:02:36] I will invite the ten women [1:02:37] into the pit for a group photo [1:02:37] and then we'll have an [1:02:38] opportunity for individual [1:03:25] photos [1:05:25] of [1:06:15] We will take Lynn next. [1:06:18] Lynn is next for the picture [1:06:19] Council District Council member [1:07:01] Campbell and thank you Ruth And [1:07:05] it's next And district three [1:09:06] with with Ruth and [1:16:38] all right again congratulations [1:16:39] to the 2026 women in [1:16:39] distinction thank you for [1:16:43] the family members and [1:16:44] the colleagues that joined in [1:16:44] the celebration today. [1:16:48] With that we will now dispense [1:16:49] with the approval of [1:16:49] proclamation items. [1:16:52] Clerk Please introduce them and [1:16:53] proceed with public comment. [1:16:53] Thank you. [1:16:54] Council PRESIDENT The public [1:16:55] comment period for [1:16:57] the proclamation items is now [1:16:58] open. [1:16:58] Each speaker will have one [1:16:59] minute per item per person. [1:17:02] If you would like to speak on [1:17:03] three or more items you will [1:17:03] have a maximum of three minutes [1:17:04] for proclamation items being [1:17:11] approved are items 3132 as 501 [1:17:14] as 502s504 and 505. [1:17:15] I see no speakers here in [1:17:16] council chambers for any of [1:17:20] the proclamations going to [1:17:21] those participating remotely. [1:17:21] We have Andrea Irving if you [1:17:25] can please unmute and let me [1:17:26] know which item or items you [1:17:30] wish to speak to. [1:17:31] >> Hi this is Andrea and I'm so [1:17:31] sorry I have to pass. [1:17:32] I didn't have a chance to [1:17:35] review it so thanks to this [1:17:36] one. [1:17:36] Thanks Laurie Sultana If you [1:17:39] can please unmute speak on [1:17:40] the proclamations, let me know [1:17:41] which item or items you wish to [1:17:43] speak to. [1:17:44] Yes, thank you. [1:17:44] I will speak to Women's History [1:17:48] Month and well I'll actually [1:17:49] I'll speak to all of them. [1:17:49] >> Thank you. [1:17:50] Thank you. [1:17:53] You'll have three minutes. [1:17:54] >> Please proceed. [1:17:54] All right. [1:17:58] So I'll just go in order 31 [1:17:58] diversionary theater. [1:17:59] Thank you for being a community [1:18:02] space and for celebrating and [1:18:03] enriching our cultural and [1:18:07] musical and appreciation on a [1:18:08] regular basis. [1:18:08] It's amazing what you have [1:18:13] accomplished And it's 40 years [1:18:13] and Women's History Month as [1:18:17] I've mentioned before will be [1:18:18] dead. [1:18:18] Women rarely make history and I [1:18:19] think it's important that [1:18:20] people recognize here in [1:18:23] California we created when I [1:18:23] served in the legislature [1:18:27] alongside Karen Bass, the mayor [1:18:28] of Los Angeles, she made [1:18:31] history as the first black [1:18:32] woman in America in the United [1:18:32] States history to become a [1:18:37] legislative leader of a state [1:18:37] legislative body. [1:18:38] And when she appointed me to be [1:18:41] her speaker pro tem we made [1:18:42] history in California as [1:18:42] the first two women in state [1:18:46] history to serve as [1:18:47] constitutional officers and [1:18:47] lead the Assembly during a very [1:18:51] difficult time and the economic [1:18:52] collapse of 2008 and 2009. [1:18:56] So I just wanted to add a [1:18:57] little bit of history from [1:18:57] the state level and even [1:19:01] the national level as we finish [1:19:02] up Black History Month because [1:19:06] often women's voices are often [1:19:06] silenced and our history is [1:19:07] rewritten by others And if our [1:19:11] voices weren't so powerful [1:19:12] people wouldn't work so hard to [1:19:12] silence them On St Patrick's [1:19:15] Day Parade I want to [1:19:16] acknowledge the contributions [1:19:16] that the Irish community has [1:19:21] made to San Diego and their [1:19:21] parade is always boisterous and [1:19:26] fun and it's a wonderful day [1:19:27] for families to be out [1:19:27] celebrating in the community [1:19:31] and a Lowrider Stamp day. [1:19:36] It's amazing how we have gone [1:19:36] from criminalizing people who [1:19:40] engage in what is really an art [1:19:41] form to now recognizing their [1:19:46] contributions to the especially [1:19:47] Southern California cultural [1:19:47] heritage. [1:19:48] My father grew up in Los [1:19:51] Angeles. [1:19:52] He loved his cars and even [1:19:56] though it was decades before [1:19:57] Lowrider was became a term, he [1:19:57] was certainly part of that [1:20:02] culture in Los Angeles As a [1:20:02] young man who treated their [1:20:07] cars with what could only be [1:20:08] called rubber and said respect [1:20:09] to turn them into moving works [1:20:11] of art. [1:20:12] And finally I will say in [1:20:16] response to Councilmember [1:20:17] Moreno's recommendation, [1:20:22] congratulations to her honoree [1:20:23] she alvarez And I think that we [1:20:27] have to always recognize [1:20:28] the very diverse cultural [1:20:32] impacts that people throughout [1:20:33] San Diego have. [1:20:33] Seeing the mayor at [1:20:34] the proclamation ceremony [1:20:39] earlier reminded me that when I [1:20:39] was the chair of [1:20:40] the Legislative Women's Caucus [1:20:43] in Sacramento we would do our [1:20:43] annual statewide recognition of [1:20:49] women who impacted our state in [1:20:50] powerful and positive ways. [1:20:53] So congratulations to you and [1:20:54] to all the women who were [1:20:55] honored earlier today. [1:20:55] Thank you. [1:21:00] Next is the original and then [1:21:01] it's 8700 the original If you [1:21:01] can please let me know how many [1:21:05] items or items you wish to [1:21:06] speak to Which item or item. [1:21:09] Yes or I would like to speak to [1:21:15] women's history St Patrick's [1:21:15] Day and let's do Jeff Davis [1:21:16] Day. [1:21:16] Thank you. [1:21:20] Please proceed right so what is [1:21:21] a woman is kind of what I'm [1:21:21] wondering because you know we [1:21:25] keep changing the definition [1:21:26] The things we already change [1:21:27] with the definition of a woman [1:21:31] is so I'm wondering if that's [1:21:32] part of the history and then if [1:21:33] you or all of a sudden saying [1:21:36] that men can be women, how does [1:21:37] that history change? [1:21:41] I mean how does that like [1:21:46] reflect accuracy of women is [1:21:47] what I'm wondering Because you [1:21:52] know, sad to see an inversion [1:21:53] of everything but if you really [1:21:57] did want to honor women and all [1:21:57] these women who are like [1:22:02] activists like you know, for [1:22:02] that it's just strange that [1:22:03] they don't mind that that's [1:22:07] happening and women are being [1:22:08] raised to look like then you [1:22:09] don't even know what a woman is [1:22:12] And anybody can be a woman But [1:22:13] people like Nancy Schaefer who [1:22:18] were murdered who are trying to [1:22:19] reform cps should be one that's [1:22:19] honored, you know, along with [1:22:23] again the other women that [1:22:23] suffer on a regular basis [1:22:28] throughout the world And then [1:22:29] for, you know, St Patrick's Day [1:22:30] all this stuff and you know, [1:22:33] parade and all these events for [1:22:34] it, you know, I'm just it's you [1:22:35] know, there was a MARCH for [1:22:39] children this last weekend on [1:22:39] Saturday and there's actually [1:22:45] one coming up on APRIL 11th. [1:22:46] It's going to be at Waterfront [1:22:46] Park and there's going to be a [1:22:50] MARCH around downtown. [1:22:51] And so I feel like, you know, [1:22:52] when we honor certain things [1:22:52] and we don't honor other things [1:22:56] that would be nice to see. [1:22:56] You know, all of you guys show [1:22:57] support for children that are [1:23:02] suffering and or you know, like [1:23:07] Arabella McCormick, Delilah, [1:23:08] you know, children who have [1:23:09] starved to death because nobody [1:23:12] wanted to do anything. [1:23:13] Just wondering when we're going [1:23:14] to spend some money to, you [1:23:18] know, dishonor them and mothers [1:23:19] who are currently suffering I [1:23:20] mean Patrick was murdered. [1:23:24] Oh, but you know, let's do [1:23:25] other things And then so let's [1:23:26] go to Jeff Davis. [1:23:30] This one's interested because [1:23:30] he's the veterans for you know, [1:23:35] San Diego housing Commission or [1:23:35] whatever. [1:23:35] Right. [1:23:40] And you know General straining [1:23:41] steadfast commitment to [1:23:42] advancing innovative housing [1:23:46] solutions and improving [1:23:47] the lives of low income [1:23:48] families and individuals [1:23:52] experiencing homelessness I'm [1:23:53] sorry 27 years of that And look [1:23:57] at where we're at. [1:23:58] I don't know that I would be [1:23:59] giving him an award when [1:24:00] the state of the city is in [1:24:04] such disarray I mean right [1:24:05] outside of city chambers Again [1:24:09] that building you know [1:24:09] the awning right there when you [1:24:10] walk in Right Right by security [1:24:15] is filled with homeless every [1:24:15] night. [1:24:16] But then you do have [1:24:16] the downtown partnership come [1:24:17] and tell them to leave which [1:24:22] isn't always so interesting. [1:24:23] But yeah, let's clean that up [1:24:23] and tent city and things before [1:24:24] we talk to the people there. [1:24:27] Thank you for that concluding [1:24:27] comment. [1:24:28] Next is 8700 If you can please [1:24:29] unmute and let me know which [1:24:31] item or items you wish to speak [1:24:36] to in Star six To unmute. [1:24:37] Thank you. [1:24:42] A 30 254 please. [1:24:42] Thank you. [1:24:43] You have two minutes. [1:24:46] Please proceed. [1:24:51] 332 Women's History Month [1:24:52] Council member Campbell von [1:24:57] Wilpert and Marino three very [1:24:58] strong women. [1:25:02] Thank you for this item and [1:25:08] special thank you to cd3 [1:25:09] honoree Ruth and Dawn to all [1:25:14] these women in all women face [1:25:15] challenges barriers and they do [1:25:20] achievements Keep making [1:25:27] history for equality and equity [1:25:28] to all and then s5 all for [1:25:31] the state or 226 San Diego [1:25:32] Housing Commission is [1:25:36] synonymous with care affidavits [1:25:41] dedicated public servant 27 [1:25:42] year veteran of San Diego how [1:25:42] the commission your leadership [1:25:47] MR. Davis across critical [1:25:48] operational areas of both San [1:25:53] Diego Housing Commission and [1:25:54] beyond is appreciated. [1:25:55] Thank you for your service to [1:25:59] all. [1:26:00] Thank you. [1:26:00] That does conclude public [1:26:01] comment on the proclamation. [1:26:01] All right. [1:26:05] Thank you, City Clerk And with [1:26:06] that I'll turn it over to my [1:26:06] colleagues for questions Excuse [1:26:07] me for comments and entertain a [1:26:10] motion and we'll start with [1:26:11] council member Von Wolpert. [1:26:11] Thank you. [1:26:12] i'm happy to move [1:26:15] the proclamation today and [1:26:16] congratulations to all [1:26:16] the proclamation awardees As [1:26:17] usual my colleagues have [1:26:21] brought forth very wonderful [1:26:22] things to celebrate including [1:26:22] our Jeff Davis. [1:26:23] Congratulations on your [1:26:23] retirement. [1:26:24] We thank you for all your [1:26:28] service to the city and [1:26:29] the Housing Commission over [1:26:29] the years on item 31 for [1:26:32] Diversionary Theater 40th [1:26:33] Anniversary Day I am proud to [1:26:33] join Mary Todd Gloria [1:26:34] Councilmember Jennifer Campbell [1:26:39] Councilmember Steve Whitburn in [1:26:40] recognizing the Virgin Mary [1:26:40] Theater as it celebrates its [1:26:41] 40th anniversary here in [1:26:44] the city of Sebago Since its [1:26:45] founding in 1986 during [1:26:46] the height of the hiv and aids [1:26:46] crisis, the Virginia theater [1:26:50] has used the power of [1:26:51] performing arts to uplift [1:26:51] the lgbtq 80 plus voices and [1:26:52] create space for our community [1:26:56] Healing and visibility. [1:26:56] Over the past four decades, [1:26:57] Diversionary has grown into one [1:27:02] of the most respected lgbtq [1:27:03] a-plus theaters in the country, [1:27:03] producing more than 175 [1:27:04] mainstream productions and [1:27:08] hundreds of performances. [1:27:09] I have attended many [1:27:09] the fantastic theater I [1:27:10] encourage everybody to go. [1:27:13] The theater has also served a [1:27:14] creative home for many emerging [1:27:15] and established artists helping [1:27:16] to amplify voices and stories [1:27:20] that deserve to be heard beyond [1:27:20] the stage. [1:27:21] Virgin Mary continues to impact [1:27:21] our region through arts [1:27:25] education programs and [1:27:25] community engagement [1:27:26] opportunities for people of all [1:27:27] ages across the county. [1:27:27] Congratulations on this [1:27:31] incredible milestone. [1:27:32] It is my honor to proclaim [1:27:33] MARCH 28th, 2026 at [1:27:36] the burgeoning theater 40th [1:27:36] anniversary day in the city of [1:27:37] San Diego In item 32 with [1:27:38] Women's History Month, I'm [1:27:42] proud to be joining Councilor [1:27:43] Jennifer Campbell and [1:27:43] COUNCILWOMAN Moreno to [1:27:44] recognize Women's History Month [1:27:47] in the city of San Diego. [1:27:48] Women's History Month is an [1:27:49] opportunity to reflect on [1:27:49] the generations of women who [1:27:50] pushed for progress, broke [1:27:54] barriers and helped expand [1:27:55] opportunities for the women and [1:27:55] girls who came after them. [1:27:56] Thank you to everyone who [1:28:00] served on our commission on [1:28:01] the fantastic Women many of [1:28:01] whom are here today in our [1:28:02] chambers across league We see [1:28:05] that legacy every day for women [1:28:06] leading small businesses, [1:28:06] educators shaping the next [1:28:07] generation. [1:28:07] The community advocates working [1:28:11] tirelessly to strengthen our [1:28:12] neighborhoods. [1:28:12] This year's theme is Leading [1:28:13] the Change Women Shaping a [1:28:17] Sustainable Future. [1:28:17] And it reminds us that women [1:28:18] continue to play a critical [1:28:19] role in building resilient [1:28:19] communities and helping guide [1:28:22] the future of our city. [1:28:23] It also reminds us that while [1:28:24] we have a meaningful progress, [1:28:24] there's still work ahead to [1:28:25] ensure that women have equal [1:28:29] opportunities to lead, succeed [1:28:29] and thrive. [1:28:30] I also want to recognize [1:28:31] the many women serving in [1:28:36] public service across our city [1:28:37] from city staff to community [1:28:37] leaders who work every day to [1:28:38] make for a stronger and more [1:28:39] equitable place for everyone. [1:28:42] Women's History Month is not [1:28:43] only about honoring the past [1:28:43] but also about supporting [1:28:44] the next generation women and [1:28:45] girls who are lead our [1:28:48] community in the years ahead. [1:28:49] I still hold out hope that [1:28:50] someday this nation will pass [1:28:50] the Equal Rights Amendment and [1:28:51] will restore the protections of [1:28:54] Ruby Wade in this country. [1:28:55] And today we celebrate [1:28:56] the achievements of women [1:28:56] across the globe, across our [1:29:00] nation to recommit ourselves to [1:29:01] continuing the work toward a [1:29:01] future where every woman has [1:29:02] the opportunity to succeed and [1:29:02] lead. [1:29:03] Thank you. [1:29:06] And I read the proclamation. [1:29:07] All right. [1:29:07] Thank you. [1:29:08] Council member Whitburn Excuse [1:29:08] me Yvonne Gilbert. [1:29:11] I haven't done that in two [1:29:11] years. [1:29:12] We have a motion by council [1:29:17] member Von Wilbert to move [1:29:18] the proclamation. [1:29:18] We'll go next to Council [1:29:19] Moreno. [1:29:19] Thank you. [1:29:23] Item 32 celebrates [1:29:23] the accomplishment of women. [1:29:24] Women's History Month is a time [1:29:29] to honor women from the past [1:29:29] and present acknowledging [1:29:30] the issues that often affect [1:29:34] women's advancements and [1:29:35] celebrate our achievements. [1:29:36] I am proud to partner with [1:29:41] Councilmembers Campbell and Von [1:29:42] Gilbert on this proclamation. [1:29:43] Many people have tried to [1:29:46] embrace women's history and our [1:29:47] achievements from textbooks and [1:29:48] Women's History Month reminds [1:29:48] us for a moment of all of our [1:29:53] great achievements. [1:29:54] The idea of Women's History [1:29:54] Month with a different lens [1:29:59] since I became a mother to a [1:30:00] daughter and I hope for a [1:30:00] brighter future for our next [1:30:01] generation of female leaders [1:30:05] And I know my daughter will [1:30:05] have a very different [1:30:06] experience than I did. [1:30:07] So I want to extend [1:30:11] the appreciation for the women [1:30:12] that are powering and steering [1:30:13] our city including my [1:30:17] colleagues here on the dais. [1:30:18] Item s502 celebrates at this [1:30:23] Friday MARCH 13th usps will [1:30:24] unveil the first ever low rider [1:30:24] stamp. [1:30:29] This historic unveiling will [1:30:29] occur in Logan Heights Library [1:30:30] within District eight. [1:30:30] The event is acknowledging [1:30:35] Logan Heights on a national [1:30:36] level and it will showcase 21 [1:30:36] low riders that will be on [1:30:42] display and feature at [1:30:42] the talented Logan Memorial [1:30:43] Educational Campus Mariachi [1:30:43] Ensemble. [1:30:47] The Low Rider Stamp is a huge [1:30:48] milestone that showcases [1:30:48] the cultural, artistic and [1:30:53] historic impact of the low [1:30:53] rider movement. [1:30:54] Logan Heights stands out for [1:30:54] many reasons including its [1:30:59] proximity to Chicano Park best [1:31:00] known and recognized for its [1:31:00] murals and its significant [1:31:01] Chicano movement. [1:31:05] On APRIL 22nd, 1970, residents [1:31:05] of Logan Heights alongside city [1:31:11] college students and community [1:31:11] activists rallied together to [1:31:12] suspend the construction of a [1:31:17] highway patrol station. [1:31:17] Community resilience is [1:31:18] ingrained in the history of [1:31:18] Logan Heights and also Chicano [1:31:23] Park and I would like to thank [1:31:24] DR. Albert Alberto Pulido from [1:31:25] the University of San Diego. [1:31:29] MR. Rigoberto Reyes from [1:31:30] the International Amigos Car [1:31:30] Club for spearheading [1:31:35] the stamps development process [1:31:36] with usps over five years ago [1:31:41] and making Turning this vision [1:31:41] into a reality. [1:31:42] I'm going to call you up to see [1:31:43] if you want to say a few words. [1:31:47] I also want to thank I want to [1:31:48] thank you for all your service [1:31:49] to Logan Heights and also for [1:31:53] bringing this historic moment [1:31:53] to the city of San Diego. [1:31:54] I also would like to extend an [1:31:58] open invitation to everybody [1:31:59] here. [1:31:59] The event will be this Friday [1:32:00] and program starts at 11:00 at [1:32:04] Logan Heights Library and [1:32:05] stamps will be on sale before [1:32:10] and after the program And I [1:32:11] would like to congratulate all [1:32:12] the folks involved everyone La [1:32:17] Raza and I'm happy to second [1:32:18] the motion on the floor. [1:32:18] >> Thank you. [1:32:19] All right. [1:32:19] Thank you, Council member. [1:32:23] So we have a motion by council [1:32:24] member Von Wilbur and a second [1:32:25] by COUNCILMAN Moreno to move [1:32:25] the proclamation. [1:32:28] We'll go next to council member [1:32:29] Lippert. [1:32:29] Thank you very much, Council [1:32:30] PRESIDENT. [1:32:30] Congratulations to all of those [1:32:31] being honored with [1:32:36] proclamations today. [1:32:36] I want to thank councilmembers [1:32:37] Campbell and Von Wilpert and [1:32:38] Laredo for bringing the witness [1:32:38] history. [1:32:41] But the proclamation forward [1:32:41] and more importantly for [1:32:42] the leadership that they show [1:32:43] every day on behalf of their [1:32:49] communities outside of college. [1:32:49] The incredible Libertad by [1:32:50] District three Team Nancy [1:32:53] Isabella Hudson, Bridgette Nay [1:32:53] So Jordan Latchford and [1:32:54] Christina Gaffney whose [1:32:58] dedication to the residents of [1:32:58] District three makes a [1:32:59] difference every single day. [1:32:59] We must continue pushing [1:33:00] forward to ensure that all [1:33:04] women have a seat at the table [1:33:04] and have equal opportunities to [1:33:05] succeed. [1:33:05] I am proud to join my [1:33:06] colleagues in recognizing when [1:33:10] it's History Month and honoring [1:33:11] the women who continue to shape [1:33:11] our community for the better. [1:33:15] I try to join Gloria [1:33:16] Councilmembers Campbell Edward [1:33:17] Wolpert in recognizing 40 years [1:33:17] of incredible impact by [1:33:21] diversionary theater an [1:33:21] organization that has helped to [1:33:22] shape the cultural and artistic [1:33:23] life of our city. [1:33:23] Located at University Heights [1:33:28] Diversionary theater has been a [1:33:28] cornerstone of Santiago's tcu [1:33:29] plus cultural community for [1:33:29] the past 40 years. [1:33:33] It is the third oldest lgbtq [1:33:34] plus theater in the United [1:33:34] States and its presence here in [1:33:35] San Diego reflects [1:33:39] the creativity and resilience [1:33:40] and diversity that make our [1:33:41] city so special. [1:33:41] Their work has elevated local [1:33:46] artists and inspired [1:33:47] generations of performers and [1:33:47] audiences alike and I [1:33:48] congratulate the leadership and [1:33:52] artists, staff and volunteers [1:33:53] and all the supporters who have [1:33:53] made these past 40 years [1:33:54] possible. [1:33:58] About the Saint Patrick's Day [1:33:59] Parade and Irish Festival takes [1:34:00] place right here in District [1:34:01] three at the beautiful Balboa [1:34:03] Park. [1:34:04] For more than four decades or [1:34:05] so that has brought our [1:34:06] community together to celebrate [1:34:06] Irish culture, music, dance and [1:34:10] tradition. [1:34:11] What begins with the leadership [1:34:11] of the Irish Congress and [1:34:12] the Southern California [1:34:13] dedicated Community volunteers [1:34:17] has grown into one of [1:34:17] the largest and most beloved [1:34:18] cultural celebrations in [1:34:18] the Southwest. [1:34:22] Events like this remind us that [1:34:23] nato strength comes from [1:34:24] the cultures and traditions [1:34:24] that bring people to our city. [1:34:25] And I want to thank [1:34:28] the organizers and volunteers [1:34:29] who make the celebration [1:34:29] possible every year. [1:34:30] Encourage everybody to come out [1:34:33] and enjoy the parade and [1:34:34] celebrate the rich Irish [1:34:35] heritage that is such a vibrant [1:34:35] part of our community. [1:34:42] I would also like to cede time [1:34:43] to Treva West, middle of [1:34:43] Ireland as the Civic Relations [1:34:46] liaison for the 2026 St [1:34:47] Patrick's Day Parade and [1:34:47] Festival Committee. [1:34:48] Please come up to the podium [1:34:53] where all looking forward to [1:34:53] the upcoming event. [1:34:54] >> Invite you to share a few [1:34:54] words. [1:34:59] Thank you very much [1:34:59] Councilmember Whitburn. [1:35:06] Good morning COUNCILMAN [1:35:06] PRESIDENT Carver Pro Tem Lee [1:35:07] and other council members. [1:35:11] My name is West Somervell as [1:35:12] Council member stated. [1:35:13] I'm honored to stand before you [1:35:13] as a member of the Irish [1:35:16] Congress of Southern California [1:35:16] and of the entire Irish [1:35:17] Diaspora here in San Diego. [1:35:23] As Council member LeBron stated [1:35:24] this Saturday, MARCH 14th we [1:35:24] are inviting all of San Diego [1:35:29] to join us along fifth and [1:35:30] Sixth Avenues and in w Park for [1:35:30] the 44th annual St Patrick's [1:35:34] Day Parade and Festival. [1:35:35] As Council member Whitburn [1:35:35] stated, this event has been [1:35:40] occurring for over four decades [1:35:41] and it has served as a [1:35:42] welcoming inclusive bridge for [1:35:46] our community bringing San [1:35:47] Diegans of all backgrounds [1:35:47] together to celebrate Irish [1:35:53] culture and heritage. [1:35:54] In Ireland we have a saying. [1:35:57] Came 100,000 volumes and that [1:35:58] is exactly the spirit that we [1:35:59] bring to our city streets. [1:36:04] The Congress of Southern [1:36:04] California would like to [1:36:05] express our sincere gratitude [1:36:06] to the offices of [1:36:06] Councilmembers Whitburn and [1:36:10] Foster and to Council PRESIDENT [1:36:11] LaCava for warmly welcome to [1:36:11] our committee to discuss [1:36:16] the vibrancy and sustainability [1:36:17] of what remains the largest [1:36:17] Saint Patrick's Day parade west [1:36:18] of the Mississippi. [1:36:23] And to both council members and [1:36:24] Campo along with Council [1:36:24] PRESIDENT LaCava for accepting [1:36:25] our invitation to participate [1:36:28] in this year's parade. [1:36:29] As we look toward the future, [1:36:30] the Irish Congress is eager to [1:36:31] maintain an open line of [1:36:35] communication with all of you. [1:36:36] We view the city as a vital [1:36:36] partner in ensuring [1:36:37] the celebration of culture and [1:36:41] community continues to thrive [1:36:42] in the heart of San Diego for [1:36:43] another 44 years and beyond. [1:36:48] Thank you for your support of [1:36:48] this proclamation and look [1:36:49] forward to seeing you in [1:36:54] the parade on the route or in [1:36:54] the festival on Saturday. [1:36:55] >> Thank you. [1:36:55] Thank you. [1:36:56] We are very much looking [1:36:57] forward to the Parade festival. [1:36:59] And thank you for all that you [1:37:00] do for the community. [1:37:01] And last but certainly not [1:37:01] least, a big congratulations to [1:37:05] Jeff Davis and his retirement. [1:37:05] MR. Davis has done a tremendous [1:37:06] amount to help people [1:37:07] experiencing homelessness get [1:37:11] back on their feet and ensure [1:37:11] that they get to have [1:37:12] affordable housing. [1:37:12] And we are very grateful for [1:37:17] all of his efforts over so many [1:37:17] years. [1:37:18] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. [1:37:18] All right. [1:37:19] Thank you, council member. [1:37:19] And we'll go next to [1:37:22] Councilmember Campbell. [1:37:23] Thank you, council PRESIDENT. [1:37:23] Congratulations to all [1:37:28] the proclamation recipients. [1:37:29] What a wonderful day this is. [1:37:30] I would like to first recognize [1:37:35] Jeff Davis Day. [1:37:35] MR. Davis are 27 years in [1:37:36] the city housing homeless. [1:37:41] He has helped thousands and [1:37:41] thousands of people over [1:37:42] the years and we are so [1:37:42] grateful to him. [1:37:46] We will MISS Him a great deal. [1:37:47] He stepped in to be interim [1:37:48] director of the housing [1:37:52] commission. [1:37:53] As we look for our new leader [1:37:58] Lisa Jones and he's just a [1:37:59] marvelous person who's always [1:37:59] wonderful to work with. [1:38:00] So thank you, Jeff, for all [1:38:00] you've done. [1:38:04] Congratulations on your [1:38:05] retirement And I'd like to [1:38:05] speak to Prop 31. [1:38:10] I am honored to proclaim MARCH [1:38:10] 28th, 26 as Diversionary [1:38:14] Theater's 40th anniversary day [1:38:15] in the city of San Diego. [1:38:16] Welcome your time, Gloria. [1:38:20] My colleagues, council members [1:38:21] with your name on Wolpert [1:38:22] diversionary third theater as [1:38:25] has been said is the third [1:38:25] oldest lgbtq theater in [1:38:26] the United States founded way [1:38:31] back in 1986. [1:38:32] It is truly a unique and [1:38:32] special place for the entire [1:38:37] community to enjoy gay themed [1:38:38] theater performances. [1:38:38] Most importantly provides a [1:38:43] creative home for many actors [1:38:44] of all backgrounds to share [1:38:44] their talents. [1:38:49] Cheers to 40 years and now a [1:38:49] proclamation over 32. [1:38:50] In MARCH we celebrate Women's [1:38:55] History Month acknowledge [1:38:55] achievements of women [1:38:56] throughout our history. [1:38:56] There are so many trailblazing [1:39:01] women in San Diego's history [1:39:02] including Maureen o'Connor and [1:39:03] who goes first Female Mayor [1:39:07] Constance Carroll, the first [1:39:08] black woman and first lgbtq [1:39:08] person to serve as chancellor [1:39:13] of the San Diego Community [1:39:14] College District. [1:39:14] Christine Kehoe, the first [1:39:19] openly gay elected official in [1:39:20] San Diego who was not only on [1:39:20] council but went on through [1:39:21] the state Assembly And as [1:39:24] Senator in our state. [1:39:25] I also want to congratulate [1:39:30] Susan Davis, the first San [1:39:31] Diego woman elected to Congress [1:39:35] to represent San Diego district [1:39:35] . [1:39:36] Shirley Weber, California's [1:39:37] first African-American [1:39:41] secretary of state who also [1:39:42] served in many other roles [1:39:42] including the state Assembly [1:39:47] Toni Atkins, the first woman [1:39:48] and first lgbtq person to be [1:39:52] speaker of the Assembly and [1:39:53] then PRESIDENT Pro-Tem of [1:39:54] the state Senate. [1:39:58] Monica Montgomery Stepp Our [1:39:59] former colleague on City [1:40:00] Council the first black woman [1:40:04] elected to serve as San Diego [1:40:05] County supervisor. [1:40:10] And my representative on county [1:40:11] council. [1:40:11] This morning we recognize ten [1:40:12] incredible women who are making [1:40:13] a difference in their [1:40:16] communities. [1:40:17] And I want to thank them all [1:40:18] for their contributions to our [1:40:18] city. [1:40:23] Happy women's History Month. [1:40:24] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. [1:40:24] All right. [1:40:25] Thank you, Council member [1:40:25] Campbell. [1:40:29] We'll go next to council member [1:40:29] foster Thank you Council [1:40:30] PRESIDENT. [1:40:30] And I just want to speak [1:40:35] briefly on a few of these [1:40:35] items. [1:40:36] We'll start with item 32 [1:40:36] Women's History Month. [1:40:37] Thank you to council members [1:40:41] Campbell von Wilpert and Marino [1:40:41] for bringing forward this [1:40:42] recognition of Women's History [1:40:46] Month and for the leadership [1:40:47] each of you show every day on [1:40:48] behalf of the city of San Diego [1:40:48] and your communities. [1:40:53] As we recognize women across [1:40:53] our city with this [1:40:54] proclamation, I also want to [1:40:57] acknowledge the example you [1:40:58] three set on this council as [1:40:59] women helping shape the future [1:40:59] of San Diego. [1:41:03] Women's History Month is a time [1:41:04] to reflect on the many ways [1:41:04] women have strengthened our [1:41:05] communities, broken barriers [1:41:05] and opened doors for [1:41:10] generations that follow. [1:41:11] In this moment I can't help but [1:41:11] to think about the strong women [1:41:15] in my life including my mother [1:41:16] ,my wife and my daughter who [1:41:16] remind me regularly of [1:41:21] the strength resilience and [1:41:22] leadership that women bring to [1:41:22] our families in our [1:41:23] communities. [1:41:23] So today I join my colleagues [1:41:28] in celebrating the women of San [1:41:28] Diego and simply thanking you [1:41:29] for all that you do. [1:41:34] Also we'd like to comment on s5 [1:41:35] or two Low Rider Stamp Day. [1:41:36] I want to begin by thanking [1:41:39] Councilmember Vivian Marino for [1:41:40] bringing forward this [1:41:40] recognition and for helping [1:41:41] highlight such an important [1:41:42] moment for our city and for [1:41:45] the lowrider community. [1:41:45] San Diego has long been home to [1:41:46] a vibrant lowrider culture that [1:41:51] reflects deep pride, creativity [1:41:51] and community. [1:41:52] For generations little riding [1:41:53] has served as a form of [1:41:57] artistic expression and [1:41:57] cultural storytelling that [1:41:58] brings people together across [1:41:58] our neighborhoods. [1:42:02] The unveiling of the first ever [1:42:03] Lowrider Stamp is a historic [1:42:03] milestone that recognizes a [1:42:07] culture the cultural [1:42:08] significance of this movement [1:42:09] and honors the artists, [1:42:09] builders and community leaders [1:42:13] who helped shape it. [1:42:14] I also want to recognize DR. [1:42:20] Alberto Pulido and MR. Reyes [1:42:21] MR. Reyes for their dedication [1:42:25] and advocacy in helping [1:42:26] bringing national recognition [1:42:26] to the lowrider community. [1:42:27] I'm looking forward to joining [1:42:31] the community this Friday at [1:42:32] the Logan Heights Library for [1:42:32] the stamp unveiling and [1:42:33] celebration and to celebrating [1:42:37] this important moment alongside [1:42:37] the many lowrider enthusiasts [1:42:38] who have helped make this [1:42:42] culture what it is today. [1:42:43] Lastly, I would like to comment [1:42:48] on 5 or 3 Jeff Davis Day. [1:42:49] Just really want to [1:42:50] congratulate Jeff on 27 years [1:42:50] of service with the San Diego [1:42:55] Housing Commission. [1:42:55] Your work has helped advance [1:42:56] housing solutions to not only [1:43:00] support our families with [1:43:01] housing options but also [1:43:01] the work that you have done in [1:43:02] regards to our homeless [1:43:07] population. [1:43:07] Also just want to congratulate [1:43:08] all of the proclamation [1:43:08] recipients. [1:43:15] And that concludes my comments. [1:43:16] All right. [1:43:16] Thank you, Councilmember Foster [1:43:19] Not only because my thought [1:43:20] kind of wrap things up. [1:43:21] I joined Councilmember Lippert [1:43:21] and Councilmember Campo on [1:43:25] items five and one to celebrate [1:43:26] Saint Patrick's Day parade and [1:43:26] Festival day here in the city [1:43:27] of San Diego. [1:43:30] I want to thank the Irish [1:43:31] Congress of Southern California [1:43:32] for highlighting celebrating [1:43:32] Irish culture here in San [1:43:33] Diego. [1:43:37] Keeping culture alive is no [1:43:37] easy feat let alone running a [1:43:42] festival of this size for 44 [1:43:42] years. [1:43:43] My wife Lorraine was half Irish [1:43:44] and I look forward to [1:43:46] celebrating on Saturday at [1:43:47] the Saint Patrick's Day Parade. [1:43:47] However you choose to celebrate [1:43:48] this day whether you're [1:43:52] incorporating some green into [1:43:53] your retire or attending [1:43:54] the Saint Patrick's Day. [1:43:54] I wish you all a happy and [1:43:58] pennsbury Saint Patrick's Day. [1:43:59] I was honored to join [1:44:02] COUNCILMAN Marino in bringing [1:44:03] forth 5 or 4 and respecting his [1:44:04] wishes. [1:44:04] I'll simply say thank you and [1:44:09] item 32 Women's History Day [1:44:10] Recognize the amazing women in [1:44:10] my life. [1:44:15] My mother who immigrated here [1:44:16] from Italy to start a new life [1:44:16] in this country. [1:44:21] A recognition that seems to be [1:44:22] lost on so many people who call [1:44:27] themselves Americans And [1:44:27] the good work she did in [1:44:28] raising me and my sister my [1:44:29] mother in law who was a nurse [1:44:33] for the early part of her [1:44:34] career. [1:44:34] My daughter Valerie who set [1:44:35] the standards of what [1:44:39] compliance and the industry [1:44:40] meant and is now the mother of [1:44:40] my grandchild Olivia, 34. [1:44:45] Next month and my daughter [1:44:46] Melanie with her Ph.D. In [1:44:51] genomics and advancing [1:44:52] the conversation in protecting [1:44:52] endangered species. [1:44:53] And thank you to my colleagues [1:44:58] for all the recognition and [1:44:59] proclamations I've been brought [1:44:59] forward today. [1:45:00] I see Councilmember Lippman [1:45:01] wants to jump back in again. [1:45:01] Thank you. [1:45:04] Council PRESIDENT Sorry we were [1:45:05] looking forward to just be part [1:45:06] of diversionary theater being [1:45:06] with us this morning. [1:45:09] It turns out he's with us [1:45:10] virtually and I wanted to [1:45:11] invite him to join us and say a [1:45:11] few words. [1:45:15] We are very much delighted to [1:45:15] utter diversionary theater on [1:45:21] its anniversary and really [1:45:22] appreciate all that you have [1:45:23] done to make it the great venue [1:45:24] that it is about To invite you [1:45:30] to say a few words. [1:45:31] Hello. [1:45:31] Hi. [1:45:31] Can you hear me? [1:45:37] Yes. [1:45:38] >> Hi, This is Jesse Marquez. [1:45:38] Thank you so much for having me [1:45:39] today And the director of [1:45:40] development and resident [1:45:42] dramaturg at Diversionary [1:45:43] Theater. [1:45:43] You've all spoke so beautifully [1:45:44] about the work and its impact [1:45:48] on our city. [1:45:49] Thank you so much. [1:45:49] As you mentioned, for [1:45:50] the nation's third oldest [1:45:55] continuously operating lgbtq [1:45:55] plus theater. [1:45:56] San Diego was only theater of [1:45:57] its kind and one of very few in [1:46:00] the country dedicated to [1:46:00] telling exclusively a lesbian, [1:46:01] gay, transgender and stories. [1:46:05] We're celebrating our 40th [1:46:06] anniversary this year and we'll [1:46:07] be taking to the streets on [1:46:07] MARCH 28th for our Ruby [1:46:12] anniversary Ball which we will [1:46:12] celebrate under the stars on [1:46:13] Park Boulevard outside of our [1:46:18] historic theater and university [1:46:18] heights. [1:46:19] And I look forward to seeing [1:46:19] some of you there. [1:46:20] If you haven't bought tickets [1:46:23] today is the last day to rsvp. [1:46:24] Please do that. [1:46:24] You've spoken so beautifully [1:46:25] about our work and about our [1:46:29] free arts education programs [1:46:29] which really are one of [1:46:30] the most important things we do [1:46:35] to speak to just how we work [1:46:36] towards the full diversity of [1:46:36] our lgbtq community our newest [1:46:42] arts education program. [1:46:42] Frontlines of Pride is a great [1:46:43] example of how we serve our [1:46:44] community and its fullest. [1:46:48] It's a collaboration with Armed [1:46:48] Services Arts Partnerships and [1:46:49] it's a playwriting class geared [1:46:54] toward the healing of lgbtq [1:46:54] veterans and their families. [1:46:55] We really believe that [1:46:59] representation matters and that [1:47:00] stories have the power to save [1:47:00] lives. [1:47:01] I really want to thank City [1:47:06] Council for your unwavering [1:47:06] support of all of our programs [1:47:07] over the years. [1:47:11] With your help we impact [1:47:11] the lives of nearly 10,000 [1:47:12] community members and we look [1:47:16] forward to doing so for another [1:47:17] 40 years and beyond. [1:47:18] >> MR. Marchese thank you very [1:47:22] much for being with us and [1:47:23] thank you very much for all you [1:47:24] do for diversionary theater. [1:47:29] It has a national reputation. [1:47:30] Its work has always been [1:47:30] important and I think [1:47:36] especially in today's national [1:47:36] climate celebrating the many [1:47:37] cultures that make up our [1:47:41] community And this case in [1:47:42] particular the lgbtq community [1:47:43] and the transgender community. [1:47:43] Your work is so important and [1:47:48] very much appreciated So thank [1:47:48] you again. [1:47:49] Looking forward to the upcoming [1:47:49] event. [1:47:49] Thank you. [1:47:50] Council PRESIDENT. [1:47:50] All right. [1:47:51] Thank you. [1:47:54] Thank you for jumping in [1:47:55] because it made me realize I [1:47:55] forgot to thank one woman in my [1:47:59] life and that would be my wife [1:48:00] Laurie. [1:48:00] >> So if I want to go home [1:48:06] tonight to my wife Lorraine who [1:48:06] is the mother of our two [1:48:07] daughters and our grandmother [1:48:11] to Olivia and a beloved [1:48:12] kindergarten teacher for 25 [1:48:13] years and touched the lives of [1:48:13] so many children who still come [1:48:17] back and thank her for what she [1:48:18] taught them during her [1:48:18] kindergarten years. [1:48:19] >> That was close. [1:48:24] So with that we have a motion [1:48:29] by Catherine Wolpert and a [1:48:29] second by COUNCILMAN Marino to [1:48:30] move the proclamation. [1:48:31] Clerk Please call the vote. [1:48:31] That's right The voting system [1:48:36] Please cast your vote that [1:48:37] passes unanimously 9 to 0. [1:48:43] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT [1:48:43] All right. [1:48:44] Thank you Again we will take [1:48:45] another pause for photos [1:48:48] starting with I think item 31 [1:48:49] diversionary theater. [1:48:50] Are they here in person? [1:48:54] The virtual okay. [1:48:55] Then we'll start with the Saint [1:49:00] Patrick's Day parade and [1:49:01] Festival day. [1:49:02] I'm not out of sorry boy. [1:49:03] I'm just really rattling off [1:49:03] women's History Month so we [1:49:09] want to do that for good. [1:49:16] Is there someone here? [1:49:16] Oh, yeah. [1:49:17] Okay, that sounds good. [1:49:17] And then I'll let Heidi take [1:49:20] over because she actually knows [1:51:11] what [1:53:11] it [1:53:32] I received 14 Webcam informs in [1:53:38] opposition and I don't want to [1:53:39] one received 21 webcam informs [1:53:40] in opposition both all those [1:53:44] were forwarded to the city [1:53:45] Council I will also note for [1:53:45] the record the potential [1:53:51] reappointment so that are on [1:53:51] the agenda this morning I don't [1:53:52] want all five is the potential [1:53:53] reappointment of DR. Joan Chen [1:53:56] to the privacy Advisory Board [1:53:57] starting with those that are [1:53:57] speaking here in council [1:53:58] chambers If I can have Barbara [1:54:02] Holton please come forward and [1:54:02] then Gary London. [1:54:08] Joe Hassler and Blair Beekman [1:54:09] if you can all come forward to [1:54:09] the front row. [1:54:14] Barbara Holton You have time [1:54:15] ceded to you by Templeton to [1:54:16] please raise your hand. [1:54:16] Thank you so much. [1:54:19] You'll have two minutes on item [1:54:19] 55 Please come up to [1:54:24] the microphone. [1:54:30] I'm here today to support [1:54:30] Historicity. [1:54:31] You will be approving for [1:54:36] the final time package. [1:54:37] My name is Barbara Holton. [1:54:43] I represent coastal caretakers [1:54:43] . [1:54:44] I want to say to you the city [1:54:49] is responsible for ensuring [1:54:49] that all of its decisions [1:54:50] comply with the California [1:54:57] Coastal Act and the care of [1:54:57] the Environmental Quality Act [1:55:01] the Ocean Beach Historical [1:55:02] District is included within [1:55:07] the state's coastal zone [1:55:08] Package ordinances and [1:55:13] resolutions do not meet [1:55:14] California Coastal or [1:55:14] Environmental Quality Act [1:55:20] requirements. [1:55:25] In addition, item 100 requires [1:55:26] that item 55 be passed first [1:55:31] This domino effect within a [1:55:31] consent calendar is unusual and [1:55:33] questionable. [1:55:39] Thank you. [1:55:40] Thank you. [1:55:41] Next we have Gary London Are [1:55:41] you here? [1:55:45] Gary London? [1:55:45] No. [1:55:51] Then we have Jo Jo. [1:55:52] Okay you're speaking on item [1:55:52] 101. [1:55:53] You'll have one minute. [1:55:58] Please proceed. [1:55:58] Hello, my name is Joe Heisler. [1:55:59] I'm with Pentland Property [1:55:59] Partners. [1:56:03] We're asset manager Most of [1:56:04] the retail and restaurant in [1:56:04] Liberty Station the former Navy [1:56:09] Naval training Center Liberty [1:56:10] Station is a national treasure [1:56:10] and some of the properties I [1:56:15] asset manage are on a covered [1:56:16] by 66 year round leases. [1:56:16] The redevelopment agency has [1:56:21] been dissolved for many years [1:56:22] and the city of San Diego is [1:56:27] supposed to compensate other [1:56:27] taxing entities. [1:56:28] Market value for the properties [1:56:32] City of San Diego is currently [1:56:33] offering a number that is based [1:56:38] upon a valuation 15 years ago [1:56:38] to pay them. [1:56:39] Currently our company has [1:56:44] offered seven times the number [1:56:44] for the properties we control [1:56:45] through ground leases. [1:56:49] We also have two other ground [1:56:50] lessees at Liberty Station that [1:56:54] are willing to pay seven times [1:56:54] the number. [1:56:55] I would say this is [1:56:56] disingenuous to schools and [1:56:56] community college districts [1:57:01] within our community. [1:57:01] Thank you. [1:57:02] Market value should be paid. [1:57:08] Blair Beekman, New York began [1:57:11] times 5105 and 503 You'll have [1:57:11] three minutes. [1:57:12] Please proceed. [1:57:17] Hi. [1:57:18] Thank you. [1:57:19] Beekman More in blue today. [1:57:19] A blue shirt. [1:57:23] I hope it can be okay. [1:57:23] Um. [1:57:24] I think it is East Village. [1:57:28] Uh, green phase one project. [1:57:29] This project was actually [1:57:30] brought to sandag a few months [1:57:30] ago. [1:57:35] They are working in conjunction [1:57:35] with you. [1:57:36] There is a future of smart city [1:57:40] smart, smart, smart city [1:57:41] development for the future of [1:57:41] this project. [1:57:45] It's really important to sandag [1:57:46] that has absolutely zero [1:57:47] mention in this item so I'm a [1:57:52] little concerned what exactly [1:57:53] you're working on with this [1:57:53] item and how you're how you're [1:57:58] working on it and you have a [1:57:58] big parking project involved. [1:58:02] You have art funding over [1:58:03] $700,000 That's a lot. [1:58:09] So it's my guess is my fear [1:58:09] actually that is your art [1:58:10] project Things going towards [1:58:14] tech practices at all? [1:58:15] I just ask we have to be [1:58:16] mindful with so much parking [1:58:21] involved with this item I hope [1:58:22] pick your tech can be a really [1:58:23] easy subject to talk about. [1:58:27] A parking check is usually easy [1:58:28] to talk about or community Good [1:58:29] luck that we are accountable [1:58:33] with this technology you're [1:58:34] building a good luck It should [1:58:39] be clear and open Don't fear it [1:58:40] That's my always I always say [1:58:41] that one I was appointment to [1:58:41] the Privacy Advisory Board [1:58:45] really important items of um we [1:58:46] are still working towards how [1:58:51] to address block and how to [1:58:52] address the future So much tech [1:58:57] placed in the city war makes it [1:58:58] really difficult to work on [1:58:59] best practices I tried to offer [1:59:00] yesterday I think we still can [1:59:03] work towards best practices. [1:59:04] Good luck how we can do that. [1:59:05] I think it's our good examples [1:59:10] at the local level that it will [1:59:10] give hope to our national [1:59:11] international level and they [1:59:15] they can learn from our good [1:59:16] examples At this time we're not [1:59:17] in a 911 paranoid era of war [1:59:21] anymore. [1:59:22] It's our best practices at [1:59:23] the local level to create peace [1:59:23] and continue aboard [1:59:27] the international level at this [1:59:28] time. [1:59:28] Good luck that we continue our [1:59:29] good work. [1:59:34] It helps a lot at this point in [1:59:38] our lives And finally I am a [1:59:39] survivor of three continuing [1:59:40] state of emergency issues. [1:59:45] Thank you very much for [1:59:45] the words of counsel person on [1:59:46] yesterday who spoke on [1:59:49] the climate action reports in [1:59:50] need of a bit more [1:59:51] accessibility and public just [1:59:56] dialog and understanding just a [1:59:57] bit more fun basically and how [1:59:58] it described itself the water, [2:00:02] the sewer issues into your [2:00:02] water could have been mentioned [2:00:03] what we could be working on [2:00:04] together the fact that we need [2:00:07] to be working on things [2:00:08] together that could have made [2:00:09] it into the report and good [2:00:13] luck that we have good [2:00:14] communication, good luck in our [2:00:14] open communication. [2:00:15] >> Thank you. [2:00:19] Thank you for that Concluding [2:00:19] comment. [2:00:20] Gary London And then our final [2:00:21] speaker is Mitch Moline who's [2:00:24] leading. [2:00:25] >> Thank you. [2:00:25] Good morning City Council [2:00:26] members. [2:00:26] My name is Gary London. [2:00:31] I'm here on behalf of my client [2:00:31] Seligman who are the as you [2:00:35] know the lessees at Liberty [2:00:36] Station And I want you to know [2:00:37] that I don't have a [2:00:42] philosophical argument against [2:00:42] the city owning city owned [2:00:43] properties. [2:00:43] There's opportunities always to [2:00:47] own it. [2:00:48] This is not one of them. [2:00:49] I think that Liberty Station is [2:00:53] a is an opportunity to to offer [2:00:58] up to some of the concept where [2:00:59] they can go ahead as stewards [2:01:00] of this property is owners of [2:01:05] this property to do a good job [2:01:06] for the next couple of decades. [2:01:10] We did a report which I think [2:01:11] had been submitted to you I'll [2:01:12] submit to clear that addresses [2:01:16] the financial upside of their [2:01:16] potential ownership of this [2:01:21] property versus the city going [2:01:22] forward releasing it including [2:01:23] the fact that what resonates [2:01:28] for me is that the city hasn't [2:01:29] done a good job with this is [2:01:29] what I heard in comment. [2:01:30] Your time has come. [2:01:30] Thank you. [2:01:38] Thank you Mitch you're speaking [2:01:39] on I don't want to one Good [2:01:39] morning council My name is [2:01:42] Mitch Politics I've been [2:01:43] intermittently involved with [2:01:43] the Liberty Station issues for [2:01:44] about 30 years When I was a [2:01:47] staff person for Mayor Susan [2:01:48] Golding and I think it's really [2:01:53] exceeded expectations in that [2:01:53] time of the vision we [2:01:54] originally had. [2:01:59] But the city, with all due [2:02:00] respect isn't a great steward [2:02:00] of real estate and I think [2:02:05] there's a good case example [2:02:06] There is the radio station Now [2:02:06] if you look at it it's very [2:02:10] clean, it's very productive, [2:02:10] it's very nice But then you [2:02:11] come upon this smoldering heap [2:02:16] of ash well that's building 619 [2:02:20] which the city which was a nice [2:02:21] 20,000 square foot building [2:02:21] that the city said you know [2:02:22] what, we're going to keep this. [2:02:23] We're going to redevelop it and [2:02:26] make it nice. [2:02:26] They never did anything. [2:02:27] They've had them all this time. [2:02:30] The museum wanted to come in [2:02:31] there and take over. [2:02:32] They said No, no, we've got a [2:02:32] plan that eventually, you know, [2:02:35] degraded homeless, moved in and [2:02:36] then it burned to the ground [2:02:37] around last Christmas. [2:02:37] The business model it's in [2:02:41] place now. [2:02:41] >> Thank you for that [2:02:42] concluding remark. [2:02:47] Any written comments can [2:02:48] definitely be submitted and we [2:02:48] will be sure to get those to [2:02:53] the council If I can have [2:02:53] Laurie Sultana please unmute [2:02:54] I'm sorry the five minute timer [2:02:58] Laurie Saldana please let me [2:02:59] know which item or items you [2:02:59] wish to speak to on the consent [2:03:00] agenda. [2:03:00] >> Good morning again. [2:03:03] Thank you. [2:03:04] I'll say all of them because I [2:03:05] couldn't see the screen until [2:03:08] just this moment So put me down [2:03:09] for all of them and I will try [2:03:10] to read from the screen. [2:03:14] Let me just say regarding [2:03:15] Liberty Station and other [2:03:15] agreements do I? [2:03:19] I can't agree more strongly [2:03:19] with the speakers. [2:03:20] Your predecessors consistently [2:03:20] gave away valuable public [2:03:24] resources for private profits. [2:03:25] The city gave the Macmillan [2:03:30] Puerto Rican the land at [2:03:30] Liberty Station for a dollar. [2:03:31] Your predecessors really [2:03:35] contributed to the housing [2:03:36] crisis we have now Other [2:03:37] development agencies around [2:03:37] California have used their [2:03:40] assets to build and preserve [2:03:41] more affordable housing than [2:03:41] San Diego consistently for [2:03:45] decades the city is an outlier [2:03:45] and as one of the worst track [2:03:46] records on creating and [2:03:47] protecting naturally occurring [2:03:51] affordable housing and that is [2:03:52] evident to anyone who drives [2:03:52] along our streets and freeways [2:03:56] where encampments are popping [2:03:57] up elsewhere they can be taken [2:03:57] down. [2:03:58] So I encourage you to [2:04:02] reconsider how you're using [2:04:02] these successor agency funds [2:04:03] because other cities as I have [2:04:07] stated before when I was chair [2:04:07] of the Assembly Housing and [2:04:08] Community Development Committee [2:04:11] I was invited to other cities [2:04:12] to see how they use their [2:04:13] redevelopment funds and it [2:04:17] really put San Diego to shame. [2:04:18] Let me comment on the minutes I [2:04:19] believe of the council previous [2:04:26] of those part of this as well [2:04:26] the minutes of the previous [2:04:27] council meetings. [2:04:27] I'll just go ahead. [2:04:30] Ice actions were mentioned by [2:04:31] one of the councilmen. [2:04:32] I want to remind you that civil [2:04:32] protest is still a basic [2:04:35] constitutional right of [2:04:36] everyone citizens and residents [2:04:37] regardless of legal status. [2:04:40] We now have the resignation, [2:04:41] thank goodness of the former [2:04:42] director of homeland security [2:04:45] And it's a reminder that [2:04:46] increasingly violent actions [2:04:47] against American citizens as [2:04:51] well as immigrants can often be [2:04:51] dealt with by following [2:04:52] the money. [2:04:52] It's still an effective way to [2:04:55] hold the powerful accountable. [2:04:56] And finally, I want to close [2:04:57] with an item that has to do [2:05:02] with an ongoing hearing. [2:05:02] No, wait a minute. [2:05:05] I'm looking on my website here [2:05:06] to one two River Valley sewage [2:05:06] crisis. [2:05:07] It's hard to say that this is a [2:05:10] crisis because it's gone on now [2:05:11] for decades And I was both a [2:05:11] plaintiff in a lawsuit to force [2:05:16] them to change the design of [2:05:17] their treatment plans And then [2:05:17] a research fellow at ucsd at [2:05:18] the Center for U.S. Mexican [2:05:21] Studies examining how it had [2:05:22] failed on so many levels. [2:05:26] This is almost 30 years ago now [2:05:26] And what is happening now is [2:05:27] entirely the city of San [2:05:30] Diego's responsibility. [2:05:31] Let me explain why you were [2:05:32] part of the driving force [2:05:36] through your employees, through [2:05:37] your agencies in creating that [2:05:37] treatment plan at the border [2:05:41] that it's never had a chance to [2:05:41] work properly and safely and [2:05:42] protect the health and [2:05:46] well-being of San Diego [2:05:46] residents and others in [2:05:47] the treatment of River Valley [2:05:47] area. [2:05:51] Those of us who were working on [2:05:51] transboundary environmental [2:05:56] issues knew that this failure [2:05:56] would come. [2:05:57] We knew that people would be so [2:05:58] poisoned and this city promised [2:06:02] the regional water board, [2:06:02] the state water agencies that [2:06:03] you would assist Tijuana in [2:06:03] developing an industrial [2:06:07] pretreatment program as part of [2:06:08] their compliance efforts to [2:06:08] keep toxic waste out of that [2:06:11] river valley. [2:06:12] The city has failed to live up [2:06:13] to that promise. [2:06:14] I encourage you to do that but [2:06:17] stop poisoning your time have [2:06:18] concluded after that as [2:06:20] the original after the original [2:06:21] is 8700 please let me know [2:06:22] which item or items you wish to [2:06:26] speak to. [2:06:29] One of five 500 as 5030 three [2:06:30] minutes Please proceed. [2:06:30] First I want to say that is [2:06:34] ridiculous that we spent that [2:06:35] long on proclamations as if [2:06:39] things are going on quickly [2:06:40] Dory while you then cut down [2:06:44] the people and you know just [2:06:45] always silence them with a [2:06:46] minute, you know it's just so [2:06:51] disrespectful that you guys sit [2:06:51] up there and spend all this [2:06:55] time doing that. [2:06:55] The appointment to the Privacy [2:06:56] Advisory Board I mean you guys [2:06:59] have sit here, you create this [2:07:00] board but then it's like you [2:07:04] don't and you circumvent all [2:07:05] the time. [2:07:05] You basically tell them you [2:07:06] know like they go and do all [2:07:10] this work and then they get [2:07:10] bypassed. [2:07:14] So it's just interesting to see [2:07:15] what's going on there and [2:07:16] anything that is having to do [2:07:19] with sharing of information [2:07:20] that should encompass everybody [2:07:21] not just a certain class of [2:07:25] people or groups of people it [2:07:26] should be everybody that is [2:07:29] included and not in these [2:07:30] appointments of the mayor and [2:07:31] you guys to outside [2:07:35] organization And it's just like [2:07:36] you guys are failing miserably [2:07:36] at the city when you go into [2:07:39] all these other boards like [2:07:40] sandag and you know whatever it [2:07:41] is empty and water boards and [2:07:45] blah blah blah and if you can [2:07:46] you're failing in the city that [2:07:49] you're representing and it [2:07:50] should be, you know, driving. [2:07:54] Thank you. [2:07:54] And then you should go to other [2:07:55] boards and do that But instead [2:07:59] you know, it's just like this [2:07:59] incestuous thing that happens. [2:08:04] And so all of the whole [2:08:04] anything that it touches, [2:08:08] anything you guys touch is [2:08:09] going to be tainted at that [2:08:09] point. [2:08:10] I mean again if you if things [2:08:13] were better it's like you'd be [2:08:14] like yeah I want them on that [2:08:15] because then they're going to [2:08:15] be doing really great But it [2:08:18] just it's like very disturbing [2:08:18] And that goes into even the 212 [2:08:23] River Valley and the state of [2:08:23] an emergency. [2:08:24] I mean even with covid anytime [2:08:28] you're in a state of an [2:08:28] emergency you get funding for [2:08:29] it. [2:08:29] Your money comes in for certain [2:08:33] things and it's like it's very [2:08:33] sad to see that people have [2:08:37] been suffering for decades for [2:08:38] decades and we just like [2:08:38] declare this continued state of [2:08:42] an emergency And it's like how [2:08:43] long are people going to have [2:08:47] to suffer because nobody wants [2:08:48] to really get down to [2:08:48] the bottom of it which if it's [2:08:52] coming from Mexico again quit [2:08:53] doing business with Mexico [2:08:53] until it stops. [2:08:57] That's a lot of money that you [2:08:58] guys obviously care more about [2:09:01] because it shows that you know, [2:09:02] nothing really gets done or [2:09:02] mitigated. [2:09:07] And even if you pretend to try [2:09:07] with a sewage treatment plant [2:09:11] like you fail at it And so it's [2:09:12] like when is anybody going to [2:09:12] be held accountable and people [2:09:13] are going to stop suffering. [2:09:17] I mean a state of an emergency [2:09:18] at the border should have been [2:09:18] when people were flooding [2:09:18] across. [2:09:21] Now we're seeing the effects of [2:09:21] them coming in. [2:09:22] But the fact that they were [2:09:25] incentivized in a lot of money [2:09:26] of the nation went to [2:09:27] facilitate these people coming [2:09:31] across and now you're worried [2:09:31] about them suffering. [2:09:32] You should have been worried [2:09:33] about them being murdered and [2:09:35] raped along your time has [2:09:36] concluded. [2:09:36] >> Next is 8700 If you can [2:09:40] please unmute after that Is [2:09:43] Andrea ebbing and then 7499 [2:09:44] 8700 if you can please a mute [2:09:48] star six Thank you. [2:09:53] I will be speaking on 5051 5253 [2:09:57] went on 4115503 please Thank [2:09:57] you. [2:09:58] You'll have three minutes. [2:10:01] Please proceed on 50. [2:10:06] East Village Green Phase one [2:10:07] It's beginning to be a little [2:10:11] tough to look at these moving [2:10:12] pieces of money and funds. [2:10:16] Yes, this seems appropriate. [2:10:17] So yes to the amendments 51 [2:10:21] construction contract with Blue [2:10:24] Pacific Workforce Agreement [2:10:28] Admin 68 Hispanic Trade 9,981% [2:10:33] 81 are Hispanic [2:10:33] Underrepresentation Asian [2:10:38] female African American female [2:10:42] Construction laborers 52 [2:10:46] Contract with c Construction [2:10:46] 224 employees Lots of [2:10:47] underrepresentation They state [2:10:50] they are monitoring [2:10:51] the situation. [2:10:55] Can we trust that 53 agreement [2:10:59] with Lewis and third 399 [2:10:59] employees? [2:11:04] Ditto and what I just said for [2:11:07] 52 and 104I love you San Diego [2:11:11] Fire Rescue San Diego Project [2:11:16] Heart Beat to date 216 People's [2:11:20] Hearts beating and safe. [2:11:24] We love you and I give you five [2:11:29] star award for your work One of [2:11:34] five to love the p b board and [2:11:34] your dedicated work on [2:11:35] the trust for the next super [2:11:39] big Thank you for what you've [2:11:39] done. [2:11:43] You helped us come forward so [2:11:43] greatly. [2:11:44] I just really really appreciate [2:11:49] all of you and I will ask 5 or [2:11:53] 0.03 j Mexico pollution Crisis [2:11:54] Emergency The momentum seems to [2:11:57] have increased Please even [2:12:03] small yet effective Step step [2:12:04] Some see that again [2:12:07] the momentum seems to have [2:12:08] increased even small effective [2:12:13] steps. [2:12:13] I appreciate it. [2:12:14] Thank you very much for [2:12:14] listening. [2:12:17] Love to all. [2:12:18] Thank you. [2:12:19] Next is Andrea Ebbing and then [2:12:21] our final speaker is 7499. [2:12:22] The five minute timer did [2:12:22] conclude no additional speakers [2:12:26] will be taken. [2:12:27] >> Morning this is Andrea being [2:12:30] I want to speak on sorry all of [2:12:31] them because I can't see that [2:12:31] at the very moment I speak on [2:12:34] all of them. [2:12:35] I want to start with [2:12:36] the employee holiday pay [2:12:40] benefits package and [2:12:41] the repayment of what whatever [2:12:41] is has been missing or was [2:12:44] missing. [2:12:45] It's very, very, very important [2:12:46] that whatever information I'm [2:12:49] sharing, anybody that can [2:12:50] follow a lead or follow a trail [2:12:51] or kind of come to their own [2:12:54] conclusions on this [2:12:54] information, I highly encourage [2:12:59] you do we have one hundred and [2:12:59] three San Diego City of San [2:13:04] Diego employees look it up on [2:13:05] Transparent California We have [2:13:08] 103 critical employees, [2:13:09] important employees, high level [2:13:10] employees making $0 a year in [2:13:13] pay. [2:13:14] Then they're making tons of [2:13:14] money and other pay. [2:13:18] So we have money being [2:13:19] laundered and filtered and [2:13:26] improperly I guess put into a [2:13:30] byline of of the payroll for [2:13:31] the city of San Diego. [2:13:32] >> So on Transparent California [2:13:34] San Diego has several alerts [2:13:35] which is an anomalous thing. [2:13:36] Several other cities do not [2:13:40] have these alerts. [2:13:41] This one in particular says [2:13:41] the city of San Diego does not [2:13:45] provide the cost of pension [2:13:45] benefits on an employee level [2:13:46] and as such the total benefits [2:13:49] value for each individual [2:13:50] reported is incomplete and [2:13:55] significantly understated. [2:13:55] That's really important to [2:13:56] consider just as a fact. [2:13:59] So from a very high level and I [2:14:00] don't think this is a city [2:14:01] council issue you guys I think [2:14:04] it's whoever Todd Gloria, [2:14:04] Summer Stephan whoever is in [2:14:08] charge of the rico Enterprise [2:14:09] that many people are [2:14:09] unknowingly operating under [2:14:13] the case I don't blame them. [2:14:15] Look at the leadership now also [2:14:18] on the water sewage crisis. [2:14:19] This has been going on for how [2:14:19] long? [2:14:20] Right? [2:14:22] Everybody just mentioned it's [2:14:23] been going on for how long? [2:14:24] It's right in front of our [2:14:28] faces but it continues And [2:14:33] while it continues we do things [2:14:34] And by the way, I'll be really [2:14:37] clear on this I am suspicious [2:14:38] and concerned about [2:14:39] the appointment of Mario or so [2:14:43] to the head of sandag. [2:14:43] Personally I think he works for [2:14:44] Mexico and not San Diego [2:14:47] Personally I think he's helping [2:14:51] people move freight such as a [2:14:52] big rigs and such over [2:14:52] the border and around [2:14:57] the border in the name of [2:14:58] reducing pollution. [2:15:00] In fact his since his [2:15:01] appointment he wants to put [2:15:05] $1.3 billion into automating [2:15:06] trucks to pass at the Otay [2:15:06] border. [2:15:09] Everything he does is at [2:15:10] the old tight border. [2:15:14] >> We have a one hundred and [2:15:15] $2,929 million while the sewage [2:15:16] crisis is taking place being [2:15:19] invested into the old timey [2:15:20] support of entry for [2:15:21] underground utilities and [2:15:24] grading work package as part of [2:15:28] California's investment of $3 [2:15:29] billion to enhance safety and [2:15:29] improve travel times. [2:15:33] While the crisis goes on. [2:15:33] I think this is a drug tunnel [2:15:34] and I think that the trucks are [2:15:38] narcotics in humans. [2:15:38] >> Thank you. [2:15:39] Your time has concluded. [2:15:40] I will note for our speakers [2:15:43] that we do need you to list [2:15:43] what items you are speaking to [2:15:44] for recordkeeping purposes. [2:15:48] We cannot assume or guess which [2:15:49] items your comments go to so if [2:15:52] you can please take the time to [2:15:53] review the agenda and let us [2:15:53] know we will reach out to those [2:15:57] that have already spoken to [2:15:58] make sure we get that accurate [2:16:02] For the record 7499 If you can [2:16:02] please unmute and let me know [2:16:03] which item or items you wish to [2:16:11] speak to Items 5051 5253 100 [2:16:16] 101 1 or 2 123124105 and s 500 [2:16:17] You'll have three minutes [2:16:22] Please proceed. [2:16:23] I won't take all that time Bob [2:16:24] Kozinski here I want to say [2:16:27] again that I've witnessed gross [2:16:28] negligence by this city in its [2:16:31] awarding and managing of [2:16:32] contracts. [2:16:33] I also want to say again that [2:16:36] this city is not providing [2:16:37] appropriate citizen oversight [2:16:41] and citizen involvement in [2:16:42] the many contract leases and [2:16:46] advisory boards in this city. [2:16:47] I MAY know of these problems [2:16:48] through my decades of dedicated [2:16:52] involvement with the Torrey [2:16:52] Pines Glider port but these [2:16:53] problems are not limited to [2:16:57] that one property. [2:16:57] These problems are endemic [2:17:02] throughout this city and they [2:17:02] need to be addressed. [2:17:03] I particularly want to endorse [2:17:06] the comments by Lori Saldana [2:17:06] regarding this city giving away [2:17:10] and leasing our public property [2:17:11] to private businesses. [2:17:12] Our public property should be [2:17:16] for the public and not to [2:17:17] enrich private businesses and [2:17:21] individuals. [2:17:21] Businesses should be purchasing [2:17:22] their own property and not [2:17:26] hijacking our public land for [2:17:26] their private profit. [2:17:30] Shame on all of you for your [2:17:31] entire careers of mismanaging [2:17:35] the properties and resources of [2:17:36] this city. [2:17:36] That's all I have. [2:17:36] Thank you. [2:17:37] Thank you. [2:17:41] That does conclude public [2:17:41] comment. [2:17:42] >> All right. [2:17:42] Thank you City clerk for [2:17:46] management's alternative to my [2:17:46] colleagues for any comments and [2:17:50] entertain a motion and if [2:17:51] nobody wants to kick it off [2:17:55] then io0 Councilmember Yvonne [2:17:59] wolpert moves the consent item [2:18:00] seconded by Campbell I was just [2:18:02] here I would just like to [2:18:03] register a new one item 53 [2:18:04] because it's an expired [2:18:04] contract. [2:18:05] However I do want to note that [2:18:08] I received a great email from [2:18:09] Bethany because I guess morning [2:18:09] detailing the work the city [2:18:10] that she and Claudia are going [2:18:13] to do to make sure we have no [2:18:14] more expired contracts. [2:18:15] But I will record a no vote on [2:18:16] that and move the rest of that [2:18:18] proclamation or consent. [2:18:18] >> Thank you. [2:18:19] All right. [2:18:23] Again, not so We have a motion [2:18:24] by Councilmember Val Wolpert [2:18:24] and a second by Councilmember [2:18:25] Campbell. [2:18:27] I actually will offer a couple [2:18:30] of comments on sw 500 We're [2:18:35] revising the appointments and [2:18:36] the only change that we're [2:18:37] actually making is [2:18:37] reassignments on the San Diego [2:18:40] Public Safety Committee. [2:18:40] I just wanted to thank [2:18:41] Councilmember Foster for his [2:18:44] brief tenure on that committee [2:18:45] and thank Councilmember Moreno [2:18:46] for stepping up and serving on [2:18:47] sandbags public Safety [2:18:57] Committee The I'm just thinking [2:18:57] about public comment and it [2:18:58] just strikes me I want to [2:19:02] register no vote on the item 55 [2:19:02] preservation and progress While [2:19:06] there's a lot of good clean up [2:19:07] ,I cannot support the de novo [2:19:08] hearing process the more [2:19:08] limited hearing process I've [2:19:11] been working for many years. [2:19:12] I also want to register a no [2:19:16] vote on 50 a recognizing that [2:19:17] say the construction cannot be [2:19:21] reversed but stopping this and [2:19:22] stopping this action could do [2:19:22] more harm than good. [2:19:23] But I want to be consistent [2:19:25] with my prior votes. [2:19:26] So with that we have a motion [2:19:30] by council member Von Wilpert [2:19:31] and a second by Council member [2:19:31] Campbell and there's a few [2:19:35] registered no votes which I [2:19:35] know the clerk has captured but [2:19:40] otherwise please call the roll [2:19:40] . [2:19:41] As far as voting system, please [2:19:44] cast your vote That does pass [2:19:49] unanimously with District five [2:19:49] voting no on item 53, District [2:19:54] one voting no on 55 and 58 and [2:19:55] the rest of it passes and [2:19:58] missing. [2:19:59] All right. [2:20:00] Thank you City clerk So with [2:20:00] that are there any comments [2:20:03] from the mayor's office for [2:20:04] council members, City attorney, [2:20:05] independent budget analyst or [2:20:05] city clerk? [2:20:08] We'll go first to Council [2:20:08] Member Campo Thank you. [2:20:09] Council PRESIDENT I'll try to [2:20:12] make this as brief as possible. [2:20:13] I thank you for recognize me [2:20:14] and I appreciate my colleagues [2:20:17] for bearing with me for a [2:20:17] moment. [2:20:17] Yesterday a member of [2:20:18] the United States House of [2:20:21] Representatives from Tennessee [2:20:22] who I will not name tweeted [2:20:23] something so heinous I felt [2:20:26] compelled to stand up for my [2:20:26] family and friends and [2:20:27] constituents. [2:20:31] The tweet read as follows [2:20:31] Muslims, he said, don't belong [2:20:35] in American society. [2:20:36] Pluralism is a lie. [2:20:40] He ended 47,000 people liked [2:20:40] that. [2:20:41] Many thousands shared it with [2:20:44] praise and in his safe [2:20:45] congressional district we all [2:20:45] know he will not be held [2:20:48] accountable for that statement [2:20:49] . [2:20:49] But when an elected official [2:20:50] says this he is striking at [2:20:51] the American idea that a free [2:20:54] people different in creed and [2:20:54] custom can nevertheless live [2:20:58] together in peace under GOD and [2:20:59] under law. [2:21:00] The Constitution of the United [2:21:03] States doesn't say that only [2:21:03] some faiths belong. [2:21:04] The First Amendment rises above [2:21:08] that smallness which led to [2:21:09] millennia of religious war and [2:21:09] violence. [2:21:12] The First Amendment says [2:21:13] the government has no authority [2:21:13] to tell a muslim she does not [2:21:17] belong any more than it MAY [2:21:17] tell a Christian, a Jew, a [2:21:22] Hindu, a person of no faith or [2:21:23] anyone else that he or she [2:21:23] stands outside the protection [2:21:26] of our law. [2:21:26] And why? [2:21:27] Because in this country our [2:21:28] rights do not come from [2:21:31] the prejudices of small minded [2:21:32] politicians. [2:21:32] They come from the GOD given [2:21:36] dignity of the human person [2:21:37] secured by a Constitution wise [2:21:37] enough to know that freedom [2:21:41] must belong to all or in time [2:21:42] it will belong to none. [2:21:46] As PRESIDENT Kennedy reminded [2:21:46] us, those who foolishly sought [2:21:47] power by writing the back of [2:21:51] the tiger ended up inside this [2:21:52] tweet from a congressman from [2:21:55] Tennessee and his sentiment is [2:21:56] not constitutionalism it was [2:21:56] sectarian arrogance. [2:22:00] It was not patriotism. [2:22:05] It was pandering to ignorance. [2:22:06] But beyond the Constitution, [2:22:06] let us speak plainly about [2:22:07] the morality of the statement. [2:22:10] It was vile and ugly and [2:22:11] beneath the dignity of public [2:22:11] office. [2:22:15] It took millions of people each [2:22:15] a child of GOD, each possessed [2:22:16] of infinite worth and reduced [2:22:20] them to a category of suspicion [2:22:20] and contempt. [2:22:21] It tells families including [2:22:24] mine that they are forever [2:22:25] foreign. [2:22:25] It tells children they will [2:22:26] never be accepted. [2:22:29] It tells peaceful and decent [2:22:30] people that no matter how hard [2:22:31] they work and no matter how [2:22:31] faithfully they love their [2:22:34] country no matter how honorably [2:22:35] they live that they will still [2:22:38] be told they do not belong. [2:22:39] I took this insult quite [2:22:39] personally. [2:22:43] Obviously I support my Muslim [2:22:44] constituents in Sarah Mesa [2:22:45] largely Afghans who risked [2:22:46] their lives with our armed [2:22:52] forces for two decades. [2:22:52] The people in that in Sarah [2:22:53] Mesa asked for nothing more, [2:22:54] nothing less than what every [2:22:56] American should be able to ask [2:22:57] to be treated equally, to live [2:22:58] in peace, to raise their [2:23:01] families, to worship freely, to [2:23:02] walk through this country [2:23:06] without being marked as lesser [2:23:06] . [2:23:07] I kid you not that the only [2:23:07] thing my Muslim constituents in [2:23:11] Sarah Mesa have ever asked me [2:23:12] for as a council member was to [2:23:13] help them fix their fence and [2:23:16] to move their bus stop a little [2:23:16] bit closer to the front door of [2:23:17] their mosque. [2:23:20] I support our city workers and [2:23:21] our police officers, engineers, [2:23:25] lawyers, road pavers and an [2:23:26] excellent member of my own [2:23:26] staff who work to serve [2:23:29] the public and improve [2:23:30] everyone's lives. [2:23:31] These city workers work hard [2:23:31] all day and during this month [2:23:35] of Ramadan eat not a morsel and [2:23:36] drink not a drop while serving [2:23:39] the people of the city of San [2:23:39] Diego. [2:23:40] I love my father in law, my [2:23:44] other in-laws and my wife who [2:23:45] are Muslim. [2:23:45] I know my wife's goodness and I [2:23:48] know her patriotism and [2:23:49] the seriousness with which she [2:23:50] takes American citizenship and [2:23:53] the oath she has taken as an [2:23:54] attorney and as an elected [2:23:55] official herself to faithfully [2:23:55] defend the Constitution of [2:23:58] the United States. [2:23:59] She's a prosecutor who holds [2:24:00] defendants accountable and [2:24:03] delivers justice for victims. [2:24:04] And even if she was not. [2:24:05] No government gets to say she [2:24:08] or anyone like her doesn't [2:24:09] belong in America without me [2:24:09] responding to it. [2:24:13] She and the Muslims of our city [2:24:14] are not strangers to the nation [2:24:14] they help sustain. [2:24:15] And then lastly there's [2:24:18] the falsehood wrapped inside [2:24:19] the phrase that reflects an [2:24:19] absolute anti-American [2:24:23] sentiment that plural ism is [2:24:23] somehow a lie. [2:24:24] Pluralism is not a lie. [2:24:27] It is the reality of America [2:24:28] and every true democracy. [2:24:29] Pluralism is the discipline of [2:24:33] coexistence and it is one of [2:24:34] the greatest achievements of [2:24:34] human civilization. [2:24:37] It is the understanding that [2:24:38] people can profoundly differ [2:24:38] and still live as neighbors [2:24:42] honor each other's rights and [2:24:42] still bind themselves to [2:24:43] the common civic life. [2:24:47] In fact, his statement defeats [2:24:47] itself because the very freedom [2:24:48] that allows this congressman [2:24:51] from Tennessee to say such a [2:24:52] sick thing exists only because [2:24:52] he lives in a pluralistic [2:24:53] society. [2:24:56] His exercising liberty in a [2:24:57] nation that protects conscience [2:25:01] precisely because it refuses to [2:25:02] turn one sect into the ruler of [2:25:02] all the others. [2:25:06] So in denouncing pluralism, he [2:25:06] is standing on the very ground [2:25:07] that pluralism built [2:25:07] the gospel. [2:25:10] According to Matthew teaches us [2:25:11] that the man who built his [2:25:15] house on such sand Jesus Christ [2:25:16] called such a person a fool And [2:25:20] as a Christian and Catholic I [2:25:21] must say clearly my faith does [2:25:21] not permit me to hate broadly [2:25:25] or lazily or hate at all. [2:25:25] My faith calls me higher. [2:25:29] His tweet is so antithetical to [2:25:30] Christian faith one has to [2:25:31] wonder just what faith does a [2:25:31] congressman from Tennessee [2:25:34] practice. [2:25:35] I'll end with this council [2:25:36] PRESIDENT And the ancient [2:25:39] prayer of the Catholic Church [2:25:40] when I say on Sunday mornings [2:25:44] Gloria and Excelsis Deo we say [2:25:45] glory to GOD in the highest and [2:25:45] on earth peace to people of [2:25:49] goodwill, peace to people of [2:25:50] goodwill. [2:25:54] That is the call not suspicion [2:25:54] and not exclusion. [2:25:58] Peace Not the sorting of human [2:25:58] beings into the worthy and [2:25:59] the unworthy. [2:26:00] That alone is left to GOD. [2:26:03] So let me answer this ugliness [2:26:04] with moral clarity. [2:26:07] Muslims belong in America fully [2:26:08] ,freely and equally as all [2:26:13] people of goodwill belong. [2:26:13] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. [2:26:14] All right. [2:26:14] Thank you for bringing that to [2:26:18] our attention and your good [2:26:18] words. [2:26:19] We'll go next to the city [2:26:19] clerk. [2:26:22] Thank you for the time council [2:26:23] PRESIDENT. [2:26:23] I did just want to note for [2:26:24] the record that the following [2:26:28] public examination periods are [2:26:28] starting to run. [2:26:29] If we can make that a little [2:26:33] bit bigger on the screen. [2:26:33] Kevin The candidates statement [2:26:34] of qualifications and [2:26:35] designation of principal [2:26:38] profession vocation or [2:26:38] occupation runs from MARCH 6th [2:26:39] through MARCH 16th. [2:26:42] Ordinances calling the election [2:26:43] ordinance placing measures on [2:26:44] the ballot is MARCH 9th through [2:26:44] MARCH 19th. [2:26:47] The City Attorney's impartial [2:26:48] analysis ballot title summary [2:26:52] and Mayor eBay City Ordinance [2:26:53] Fiscal Analysis will run at [2:26:53] MARCH 10th through MARCH 20th. [2:26:56] And as noted yesterday [2:26:57] appellate arguments are due [2:26:57] tomorrow and then that public [2:27:00] examination period will run [2:27:01] MARCH 12th through MARCH 22nd. [2:27:01] You can find all of this [2:27:05] information as well as all of [2:27:06] the materials to be viewed by [2:27:06] the public at San diego.Gov [2:27:10] Backslash 2026 elections. [2:27:11] i'd also just like to give a [2:27:11] big thank you to my staff [2:27:14] deputy director Christina [2:27:15] Hernandez, Mark Moreno, my [2:27:16] elections analyst and everyone [2:27:19] who helped with the candidate [2:27:19] nomination period that [2:27:20] concluded last Thursday with a [2:27:24] record breaking 25 candidates [2:27:25] for districts two, four, six [2:27:25] and eight. [2:27:26] Thank you for all your efforts [2:27:29] to make democracy happen. [2:27:30] Thank you, council PRESIDENT [2:27:30] For the time. [2:27:31] All right. [2:27:32] Thank you, City Clerk And we'll [2:27:34] go next to council member [2:27:35] Whitburn. [2:27:35] Thank you. [2:27:36] Council PRESIDENT Council [2:27:36] Councilmember Campos. [2:27:38] Eloquent words a moment ago [2:27:39] speak for themselves but I just [2:27:40] wanted to thank him for saying [2:27:40] them. [2:27:41] Thank you. [2:27:43] Thank you. [2:27:43] All right. [2:27:44] A couple of comments here given [2:27:48] some of the public comment [2:27:48] earlier today. [2:27:49] I just wanted to recognize [2:27:50] the operation staff and [2:27:53] the good work they do every day [2:27:53] and especially those in need [2:27:57] who have taken over a real [2:27:58] estate department that was not [2:27:58] in very good shape and has [2:28:02] really worked wonders to bring [2:28:06] that into shape and especially [2:28:06] updating 700 Dash ten which [2:28:07] affects so many of our [2:28:11] decisions. [2:28:11] And then a reminder that we do [2:28:15] have a special with excuse me a [2:28:16] reminder that we have an [2:28:19] evening session starting at 6 [2:28:20] P.M. Tonight for public comment [2:28:20] on budget. [2:28:21] i appreciate all those who [2:28:24] showed up at the earlier effort [2:28:25] and we continue to welcome [2:28:29] public comment on the upcoming [2:28:30] f y 2027 budget. [2:28:34] With that we will now take up [2:28:35] non agenda public comment and I [2:28:38] hope at least four of my [2:28:39] colleagues will stick around. [2:28:40] The council members respect and [2:28:43] appreciate the public [2:28:44] standpoint and are fully [2:28:44] committed to protecting every [2:28:45] participant's free speech [2:28:47] rights at council and committee [2:28:48] meetings with that clerk. [2:28:49] Please proceed with public [2:28:49] comment. [2:28:49] Thank you. [2:28:52] Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 An [2:28:53] Agenda Public comment is an [2:28:57] opportunity for members of [2:28:58] the public to comment on items [2:28:58] that are not on the agenda but [2:28:59] within the subject matter [2:29:02] jurisdiction of the city [2:29:03] Council. [2:29:03] Each speaker will have two [2:29:04] minutes. [2:29:04] Please note if there are eight [2:29:05] or more speakers on a single [2:29:07] topic the maximum time for [2:29:08] the topic will be 16 minutes. [2:29:08] If you are in chambers please [2:29:11] submit your speaker slip. [2:29:12] If you are joining us virtually [2:29:13] please raise your hand now to [2:29:14] speak by tapping the Raise your [2:29:18] hand icon or if you're calling [2:29:18] participant Star nine. [2:29:19] Begin with the following [2:29:21] individuals Please come forward [2:29:21] to the front row. [2:29:22] Joel Sharpe You can come up to [2:29:23] the microphone after that. [2:29:26] Jacob Edwards, Barbara Holton, [2:29:31] Scott Chipman and Blair Beekman [2:29:31] . [2:29:32] Joel, you'll have two minutes. [2:29:32] Please proceed. [2:29:32] Yes. [2:29:36] Good afternoon. [2:29:36] I'm Joel Sharp, property owner [2:29:37] in the University Heights area. [2:29:41] I'm here today to talk about [2:29:42] the Stewards Underground [2:29:42] program in partnership with [2:29:45] the city about my property in [2:29:49] 2011 and the 10th Avenue Finger [2:29:50] just south of Mission Valley [2:29:50] the canyon there. [2:29:54] And when I called City Genie in [2:29:55] 2011 they gave me an [2:29:58] approximate date of 2026 [2:29:58] telling me of course that [2:29:59] the city controls the schedule [2:30:02] So stay on the streets not as [2:30:03] De Jeannie But I was a little [2:30:07] disappointed Therefore here are [2:30:07] 20 2615 years later and nothing [2:30:12] is planned to remove the poles [2:30:13] and the canyon behind our [2:30:16] properties on 10th Avenue [2:30:17] University Heights The map show [2:30:18] that's just a blank is not [2:30:20] scheduled is nothing. [2:30:21] So I'm really here to tell you [2:30:26] as a retired architect that my [2:30:26] recommendation is that you guys [2:30:27] should be removing the poles [2:30:30] and overhead power and all of [2:30:31] the canyon and hillside areas [2:30:34] of the city first as a phase [2:30:35] one because you have limited [2:30:35] budget and then do the standard [2:30:39] concrete sidewalk street [2:30:40] installation removals as a [2:30:40] phase two throughout the old [2:30:44] neighborhood. [2:30:45] That's common sense to me Since [2:30:48] the Canyon Locations offers [2:30:49] higher fire risk overall as a [2:30:50] canyon owner of course I'm [2:30:54] required to manage the brush [2:30:55] 100ft away from my house as [2:30:59] defensible space which I do out [2:31:00] of self interest of course as [2:31:00] an owner but for [2:31:04] the neighborhood as well and as [2:31:04] Jeannie by the way sent a drone [2:31:07] over my area and Canyon a [2:31:08] couple of weeks ago to assess [2:31:09] the fire hazard of their [2:31:13] equipment in the canyon areas. [2:31:14] So that's my message really is [2:31:15] you guys should be doing [2:31:18] the canyon area rules for [2:31:19] undergrounding first before you [2:31:19] do the Standard Street [2:31:23] installations. [2:31:24] That's kind of my my beef and [2:31:27] request you guys give me that [2:31:28] You guys have limited budget [2:31:28] overall but just do the canyon [2:31:31] areas first then do the regular [2:31:36] is next door use politics or [2:31:37] arbitrariness to to make [2:31:38] the decision Thank you for [2:31:38] thanks. [2:31:39] Comment Jacob Edwards If you [2:31:43] can please come forward. [2:31:44] Thank you City Council for [2:31:45] the work you do for San Diego. [2:31:47] I don't think two minutes is [2:31:48] enough time to explain this but [2:31:51] I'm going to try. [2:31:52] I'm speaking about one of [2:31:53] the last assassination attempts [2:31:57] against me last Super Bowl [2:31:57] evening. [2:31:58] I was going around the Gaslamp [2:32:02] area educating people of what's [2:32:03] really going on in this [2:32:03] country. [2:32:06] Not long thereafter I had all [2:32:07] black suv, government suv [2:32:11] swarming circling around me [2:32:12] driving them were wiseguy [2:32:12] gangsters. [2:32:16] Then I was pointing that out [2:32:16] which was being recognized [2:32:17] within the event. [2:32:21] I had gangsters approaching me [2:32:22] straight in the street being [2:32:26] weathered and experienced to [2:32:26] avoid danger. [2:32:27] I came here to City Hall under [2:32:31] cameras at the front door. [2:32:36] They put up to a young girl a [2:32:36] teenage girl approaching me [2:32:37] head on with a bulge in her [2:32:41] pocket wearing a hoodie. [2:32:45] I yelled No you don't circle [2:32:46] around her startled her. [2:32:47] She was walking off holding a [2:32:50] revolver. [2:32:51] A young girl police department [2:32:55] handle it very poorly. [2:32:56] I consider it police department [2:33:00] department infiltration Days [2:33:01] later I'm in records to get [2:33:05] records of how it was handled. [2:33:06] There were two Department of [2:33:10] Homeland Security folk in there [2:33:10] to request to meet with [2:33:11] the chief's office Human [2:33:11] Resources. [2:33:15] They said, which is Chief. [2:33:20] The lady was laughing at me [2:33:20] laughing in my face. [2:33:21] I said to her You think this is [2:33:24] funny? [2:33:25] She said, Oh it's hysterical. [2:33:29] Went into the chief's office to [2:33:29] cry, dehumanize me and [2:33:30] validate, discredit me and [2:33:34] probably say he's down there to [2:33:35] sue you all We're here for you [2:33:38] know I went in there to sue [2:33:38] you. [2:33:39] I wouldn't harass through [2:33:40] the police department. [2:33:44] I would not sue San Diego. [2:33:45] >> I was there to show Thank [2:33:48] you for that federal activity [2:33:49] and what it's doing. [2:33:51] Barbara Holton I don't see [2:33:51] Barbara Holton here. [2:34:01] Scott Chipman Good afternoon 50 [2:34:01] year resident of Pacific Beach [2:34:02] and Planning Group member and [2:34:06] founding member of Save ppb [2:34:10] Save ppb Board With over 400 [2:34:10] members on Monday you will [2:34:11] consider the issue of a secret [2:34:15] exemption for 710 Club Street [2:34:19] three 710 Garnet Avenue under [2:34:19] secure exemptions are [2:34:23] interpreted narrowly and [2:34:24] the burden is on the city to [2:34:25] show the exemption applies. [2:34:28] On Monday you will hear that [2:34:29] there is a reasonable [2:34:30] possibility even likelihood of [2:34:33] significant environmental [2:34:34] impact due to unusual [2:34:34] circumstances. [2:34:38] Those circumstances include but [2:34:39] are not limited to hundreds of [2:34:43] noise complaints including [2:34:43] amplified vulgarity and [2:34:48] obscenity exacerbated by roll [2:34:48] up doors. [2:34:49] A superior Court mandated [2:34:53] mediation agreement over noise [2:34:53] loss of critical beach parking [2:34:54] and increased demand for [2:34:58] parking by increasing [2:34:58] occupancy. [2:35:02] That was two minutes. [2:35:03] No, my apologies. [2:35:03] I think I got confused. [2:35:04] Keep going. [2:35:06] Thank you. [2:35:07] And increased demand for [2:35:11] parking by increasing occupancy [2:35:12] . [2:35:12] I've provided correspondence [2:35:13] from the Coastal Commission [2:35:16] that should have been [2:35:17] distributed Represented [2:35:22] Representative Alexander Lee [2:35:23] Andre to two Project Manager [2:35:31] Nature or Sir Doug Howard quote [2:35:31] all on street parking removed [2:35:35] to construct a street ratio be [2:35:36] replaced with an equivalent [2:35:36] number of off street parking [2:35:41] spaces provided at no cost to [2:35:42] the public and if there is not [2:35:45] a one for one replacement out [2:35:49] of the five occupied parking [2:35:50] this project is not approvable [2:35:54] and must be removed in summary [2:35:58] coastal zone parking is [2:35:59] directly tied to public access [2:36:00] under the Coastal Act [2:36:04] the exemption cannot apply due [2:36:05] to unusual circumstances. [2:36:09] >> Thank you Blair Beekman If [2:36:13] you can come forward Blair [2:36:14] Brickman is our final speaker [2:36:15] here in council chambers. [2:36:15] If you are participating [2:36:19] remotely please be sure to [2:36:19] raise your hand. [2:36:20] Please proceed. [2:36:20] Hi Blair Beekman. [2:36:23] Thanks for the morning meeting. [2:36:24] Um, we're going to do some [2:36:28] difficult times at [2:36:29] the international level that [2:36:30] are hopefully trying to ease [2:36:32] themselves down. [2:36:33] Um, I. [2:36:34] I don't want to be difficult [2:36:37] here at this time, but I think [2:36:38] it's important to point out [2:36:42] from the um agenda item [2:36:47] yesterday on zoological uh uh [2:36:48] society issues and their [2:36:51] contract things it states in [2:36:52] the first memo at the very end [2:36:53] it gives a very clear summary [2:36:57] that the future of parking fee [2:37:02] issues there is going to be $3 [2:37:03] million allocated that was [2:37:06] going to go to general fund [2:37:07] items that also concerned [2:37:10] zoological Society. [2:37:11] And that was a beginning [2:37:16] promise and concept that I [2:37:17] think still has some validity [2:37:21] that I need more clarity about [2:37:22] and that I felt Councilperson [2:37:26] LaCava didn't really work [2:37:26] towards that clarity. [2:37:27] He worked towards a finality [2:37:31] and absolution ism and a [2:37:31] certain condescending tone [2:37:32] towards the community but [2:37:36] didn't offer I think a true, [2:37:36] you know, idea of what [2:37:41] the future parking piece is [2:37:41] like. [2:37:42] So until that is cleared up [2:37:42] better I'm going to try to [2:37:46] continue to operate here in [2:37:46] the public space a shared [2:37:51] compromise idea that some ps [2:37:51] are going to Balboa Park [2:37:52] issues, some are going to [2:37:55] the general fund. [2:37:56] Uh hopefully a conversation can [2:37:57] better develop. [2:38:01] And I hope that can be an open [2:38:01] clear conversation for all of [2:38:02] us. [2:38:02] It doesn't have to be fearful [2:38:03] and very much of a thank you in [2:38:05] yesterday's item that we talked [2:38:10] about climate change issues [2:38:10] the purpose of community energy [2:38:15] was not also talked about that [2:38:16] I hope we can learn to make of [2:38:17] a more of a regular [2:38:17] conversation we're trying to [2:38:21] address a state uni. [2:38:22] >> I think that's an important [2:38:22] concept. [2:38:22] Thank you. [2:38:23] Thank you for that concluding [2:38:25] comment. [2:38:25] Sorry the five minute timer [2:38:26] going to those participating [2:38:26] remotely. [2:38:29] We currently have ten speakers [2:38:30] on the queue just we have ten [2:38:33] speakers that's 20 minutes I [2:38:34] think we just power through and [2:38:34] get it done. [2:38:35] I know someone's going to leave [2:38:37] but we understand we have five. [2:38:42] Let's hold the five going [2:38:43] forward. [2:38:43] Andrea Irving if you can please [2:38:44] unmute after that as Laurie's [2:38:47] all done. [2:38:47] >> Please proceed. [2:38:48] This is Andrea having and. [2:38:48] Perfect. [2:38:51] Thank you MR. LaCava for saying [2:38:52] that because you guys don't [2:38:53] want to hear what we have to [2:38:56] say. [2:38:57] That's the problem. [2:38:58] If this were a triage and you [2:39:01] had to figure out who you could [2:39:01] help most immediately in [2:39:05] the community, it's the people [2:39:06] that are presenting directly to [2:39:06] you. [2:39:07] And MR. LaCava, a moment ago [2:39:08] you said that you were just [2:39:11] distracted by public comment. [2:39:11] What a nuisance We are [2:39:12] the people that pay your [2:39:12] salary. [2:39:15] What a nuisance We are [2:39:16] the people that have the guts [2:39:17] to come up and present to you [2:39:21] guys And when we present facts [2:39:21] and you roll your eyes and [2:39:22] leave and you don't have a [2:39:22] quorum anymore and we have to [2:39:26] come back another day. [2:39:26] Thank GOD we will come back [2:39:27] another day. [2:39:27] But guess what? [2:39:31] When we do you still don't [2:39:31] listen to us And the comments [2:39:32] about discussing the items [2:39:35] we're talking about. [2:39:35] >> That's great. [2:39:36] Good idea. [2:39:37] However, you guys don't put in [2:39:37] our comments. [2:39:40] So what's the point? [2:39:40] Why do I have to follow your [2:39:41] structure when the only thing [2:39:45] that you put that I say is my [2:39:46] name Raul Campo. [2:39:46] I am District seven. [2:39:50] I am Linda Vista and I have [2:39:51] often wondered why you have [2:39:54] done zero about the father in [2:39:55] Linda Vista that got detained [2:39:58] in front of the elementary [2:39:59] school as a Mexican-American [2:39:59] man. [2:40:02] I wondered why you wouldn't do [2:40:03] anything about that, why you [2:40:04] made that Afghan evac video and [2:40:07] you said you will not stop [2:40:08] fighting for Afghan rights when [2:40:08] me. [2:40:09] I am your constituent. [2:40:13] I live in districts seven and I [2:40:13] present to you every single [2:40:14] week And you look over my head [2:40:17] and you leave and you do [2:40:18] nothing And my children were [2:40:19] abducted and you just had a [2:40:19] baby. [2:40:22] I wonder why you're fighting so [2:40:23] hard for these people you've [2:40:23] never met has nothing to do [2:40:27] with Muslim. [2:40:27] >> We're not. [2:40:28] Nobody doesn't love me? [2:40:28] No. [2:40:31] Sorry. [2:40:32] There is a huge thing against [2:40:32] Muslims. [2:40:33] However, we did go to war with [2:40:37] Afghanistan and they are our [2:40:37] war adversary. [2:40:38] Love your neighbor. [2:40:38] Love your enemy. [2:40:38] Great. [2:40:42] But when people like me are [2:40:42] almost murdered and children [2:40:46] are abducted, it makes perfect [2:40:47] sense that you wouldn't help me [2:40:47] because your prosecutor wife is [2:40:51] a prostitute shooter who [2:40:52] doesn't want to help me. [2:40:53] >> Your time has concluded. [2:40:57] Lori Saldana, if you can please [2:40:57] unmute after that. [2:40:58] Thank you. [2:40:58] Hello. [2:41:00] Please proceed. [2:41:01] Thank you. [2:41:01] Council PRESIDENT Thank you for [2:41:02] reading what people jokingly [2:41:06] call the Saldana statement that [2:41:07] was required to be read as part [2:41:07] of the settlement after a [2:41:11] brownout violation a few years [2:41:12] ago in response to certain [2:41:12] council members efforts to [2:41:15] silence public comment related [2:41:16] ignoring members of the public [2:41:17] as they are speaking virtually [2:41:21] joking with your colleague next [2:41:22] to you. [2:41:22] It shows the disdain for our [2:41:25] voices and perspective leaving [2:41:26] before we can even speak is [2:41:26] even worse. [2:41:27] Look especially for those of [2:41:30] you who are intending to run or [2:41:31] are already running for other [2:41:31] elected offices. [2:41:35] We will remember you ignoring [2:41:36] the public's comments and [2:41:37] talking through our comments. [2:41:41] We see you as you speak. [2:41:41] We see you on the city tv [2:41:42] webcast And when you leave [2:41:45] before or during our remarks or [2:41:46] talk and laughed with [2:41:46] the person next to you, it [2:41:49] strongly reflects your [2:41:50] unwillingness and inability to [2:41:51] listen to public voices. [2:41:54] Finally, I want to remind you [2:41:55] that APRIL is Sexual Assault [2:41:56] Awareness Month something that [2:41:59] I worked with other groups to [2:42:00] acknowledge and recognize for [2:42:04] decades now and for decades you [2:42:05] and your predecessors delayed [2:42:05] and denied justice for [2:42:09] survivors of sexual assault and [2:42:09] other violent crimes. [2:42:10] Last year the police department [2:42:14] finally acknowledged they had [2:42:15] failed to test and identify dna [2:42:19] found in thousands of sexual [2:42:20] assault evidence kits and over [2:42:20] 500 suspects were finally [2:42:24] identified and they're already [2:42:25] in the criminal justice system [2:42:28] and related in NOVEMBER after a [2:42:29] friend and I were assaulted in [2:42:30] downtown San Diego, our efforts [2:42:33] to report the crime were met [2:42:33] with delays. [2:42:34] To the degree that she has [2:42:35] never been able to file a [2:42:38] police report and I waited [2:42:39] seven hours for a police [2:42:40] officer to come to my home [2:42:43] Don't you dare say we are [2:42:44] America's safest big city. [2:42:48] Because what is happening is [2:42:48] you are simply not listening to [2:42:49] survivors of violence whether [2:42:53] it's sexual assault or other [2:42:53] types of assault. [2:42:54] The police are ignoring our [2:42:58] efforts to report the crimes [2:42:58] just as you are ignoring our [2:42:59] comments during council your [2:43:03] time has concluded the original [2:43:04] and after that is 8700. [2:43:04] >> That is absolutely true. [2:43:08] Sexual assaults are being [2:43:09] ignored, even deaths. [2:43:10] That's what's happening at Tent [2:43:10] City. [2:43:13] You guys contract with people [2:43:14] who hire people who sexually [2:43:18] assault individuals and you [2:43:19] refuse to do anything about it. [2:43:20] You know it So you are [2:43:23] complicit in it and they are [2:43:24] being told not to report it. [2:43:27] My dreams for change staff and [2:43:28] you guys are sitting here and [2:43:29] talking about a St Patrick's [2:43:32] Day parade and all this stuff [2:43:33] at Balboa Park right off [2:43:33] the inspiration point way At [2:43:37] the end of that is Tent City [2:43:38] and Dreams for Change has been [2:43:42] for the last year and a half in [2:43:46] the news about clients who have [2:43:47] alleged that sexually the staff [2:43:48] has been sexually assaulting [2:43:51] them at your safe sleeping [2:43:52] sites and they are actually a [2:43:57] subsidiary of the United Way [2:43:57] And we're being paid by [2:43:58] the Franchise Tax Board to help [2:44:02] immigrants who are not yet [2:44:02] citizens including some [2:44:03] undocumented immigrants to get [2:44:07] tax id numbers and file tax [2:44:07] returns so that migrants can [2:44:08] have cash on hand from [2:44:12] the state In a program called [2:44:16] the Cow itc the they have to be [2:44:17] wants to look for specific [2:44:17] families and ask dreams for [2:44:18] change to do that so they can [2:44:21] get more cash back than people [2:44:21] without children. [2:44:22] There is a particular focus on [2:44:25] families who have children that [2:44:26] are six years or younger as [2:44:27] they get the maximum cash [2:44:30] payout available when they're [2:44:31] engaged in this type of thing [2:44:35] And 211 is is directing people [2:44:36] to dreams for change. [2:44:36] You guys know that Dreams for [2:44:40] Change is failing to uphold [2:44:41] their contracts because [2:44:41] the city is there on site and [2:44:45] there are many, many code [2:44:46] violations. [2:44:46] The conditions that these [2:44:47] people have to live in are [2:44:51] atrocious and you continue to [2:44:51] give our money to them all [2:44:52] while they are putting children [2:44:56] at risk to be able to be taken [2:44:56] from school because of this [2:44:57] information that they are [2:45:00] collecting And before nine five [2:45:01] where anybody can go in and [2:45:01] claim they're a family member [2:45:04] and take a child So you guys [2:45:05] need to figure out what you're [2:45:06] doing and quit contracting with [2:45:09] these people and actually care [2:45:10] about people who are being [2:45:10] sexually assaulted concluded [2:45:14] after that is 8700. [2:45:14] Then Hector the five minute [2:45:15] timer also concluded no [2:45:19] additional speakers will be [2:45:19] taken. [2:45:20] There are ten speakers in [2:45:20] the queue and the timer [2:45:23] concluded 3700. [2:45:23] Please proceed. [2:45:29] Thank you so much, Joyce And [2:45:29] you have a three. [2:45:29] Okay. [2:45:32] I'll see my items in a minute. [2:45:37] I mean there won't. [2:45:37] Okay. [2:45:41] Can you imagine if all our [2:45:47] voices were not I love this [2:45:47] about our country. [2:45:51] We can speak and can you [2:45:52] imagine what it would be like [2:45:55] if they were repressed and [2:46:01] covertly underground Not heard. [2:46:05] Can you imagine the point of [2:46:06] explosion that would happen at [2:46:10] some point because of that [2:46:11] pressure? [2:46:11] I don't think we want to go [2:46:15] with it. [2:46:15] Thank everybody for expressing [2:46:20] your views. [2:46:21] You have a right to do that. [2:46:21] We must hear you. [2:46:25] It's critical. [2:46:25] It's critical to our democracy. [2:46:26] Okay. [2:46:30] Thank you for listening on [2:46:31] that. [2:46:31] So get to my three items. [2:46:35] I'll try to be real quick. [2:46:36] I really would like us to look [2:46:39] further at the idea of [2:46:44] the oversupply of office supply [2:46:49] in our downtown and how we use [2:46:50] that do number two council [2:46:54] member Ella Rivera I think you [2:46:55] said something very, very [2:46:55] important. [2:47:00] You said we need a policy on [2:47:00] the eye. [2:47:01] Let's do that. [2:47:03] Okay. [2:47:04] We really really really really [2:47:04] really need to do that. [2:47:07] Can you please put an effort [2:47:08] into that? [2:47:08] I would appreciate that. [2:47:14] And then last only No, I better [2:47:14] skip that because it's too [2:47:14] long. [2:47:18] So anyway, it's a great [2:47:18] morning. [2:47:19] It's absolutely a great morning [2:47:22] There was a little bit of [2:47:23] everything the excitement of [2:47:28] life, everything has to be [2:47:29] included in whether we want it [2:47:29] is not a good time has [2:47:32] concluded and my apologies [2:47:33] Hector if you can please unmute [2:47:38] after that 7499 Nice. [2:47:38] Thanks for taking my call. [2:47:42] Hey I want to call attention to [2:47:42] the fact that there were 50 [2:47:47] cars set on fire in Tijuana [2:47:47] just recently for the drug [2:47:50] dealers when we took out that [2:47:51] one drug dealer. [2:47:56] And so Tijuana is the city in [2:47:56] the hemisphere by far. [2:48:00] So we're at risk with that plus [2:48:01] your recent invasion and I'm [2:48:05] calling out the occupiers of [2:48:06] our land right now in San Diego [2:48:06] County. [2:48:10] The people who invaded are [2:48:10] those illegal aliens that live [2:48:11] here Now They just came here. [2:48:14] Those are the real occupiers or [2:48:15] county and they're draining our [2:48:16] systems. [2:48:19] 75,000 of them are on Medi-Cal [2:48:24] and medical system is going [2:48:24] under. [2:48:25] So we got to we got to get rid [2:48:28] of those guys. [2:48:29] Trump's fighting the drug [2:48:29] dealers now with the South [2:48:30] American guys. [2:48:33] All the countries they're [2:48:33] getting serious. [2:48:34] They're coming after the guys [2:48:37] in San Diego County that hide [2:48:38] their money. [2:48:39] The drug dealers have got a lot [2:48:39] of houses here. [2:48:43] They're like shelter in their [2:48:43] businesses, in their stock. [2:48:44] So it could get really pretty [2:48:48] crazy that plus we all know [2:48:49] the mayor of Tijuana's hooked [2:48:52] up with the drug dealers And I [2:48:53] know some guys Mexican guys you [2:48:57] know that guys know that Even [2:48:57] our border supervisor lady [2:48:58] who's who was an anchor baby [2:49:02] she was born in San Diego was [2:49:03] raised in Mexico. [2:49:07] I call that an anchor baby. [2:49:08] She's hooked up with the drug [2:49:09] dealers So it's going to get [2:49:13] crazy. [2:49:13] Matt Trump's going to was going [2:49:14] to take over Cuba and he's kind [2:49:15] of come back to San Diego [2:49:17] County and start start doing it [2:49:18] with us man. [2:49:22] Plus the we should have a a day [2:49:26] commemorating up with all [2:49:26] the genders. [2:49:27] There's 16 genders. [2:49:28] It's kind of homophobic to have [2:49:30] a day of a woman because we [2:49:31] don't know what a woman is. [2:49:32] You know what's going on with [2:49:32] that? [2:49:36] How can you have a day [2:49:36] celebrating women when we can't [2:49:40] define what a woman is? [2:49:41] Your time has concluded next to [2:49:47] 7499 after that is back you up [2:49:47] Bob Kozinski here I again want [2:49:52] to assert that this city is [2:49:52] abusing the hang gliding and [2:49:53] paragliding communities through [2:49:54] your negligent oversight of [2:49:57] the business operating [2:49:57] the Torrey Pines flight or [2:49:58] port. [2:49:58] The glider port is a natural [2:49:59] treasure just like our other [2:50:01] beaches and open spaces [2:50:02] throughout San Diego. [2:50:03] However, unlike those other [2:50:03] parks, the glider port is [2:50:07] exclusively leased to a private [2:50:07] business that charges citizens [2:50:08] to use our park. [2:50:11] And unlike those other parks, [2:50:12] the business that the Torrey [2:50:12] Pines Glider Park requires [2:50:13] citizens to be members of a [2:50:17] private club that expels [2:50:17] citizens for testifying in [2:50:18] court cases against [2:50:21] the business or even for [2:50:22] speaking to the city council. [2:50:23] Joe LaCava As PRESIDENT You it [2:50:25] is your duty to bring this [2:50:26] matter to the Council to [2:50:27] reactivate the Torrey Pines [2:50:30] City Park Advisory Board and to [2:50:31] implement a waiver similar to [2:50:32] the successful Dockweiler [2:50:35] waiver to allow citizens to use [2:50:36] our park without belonging to [2:50:36] any abusive private [2:50:40] organization. [2:50:41] In addition to advocating for [2:50:42] our rights at the glider port I [2:50:42] feel compelled to spend some of [2:50:45] my non agenda time advocating [2:50:45] for citizens who speak here In [2:50:49] past years the City Clerk would [2:50:50] list upcoming remote speakers [2:50:51] and she would say something to [2:50:53] the effect of the next speaker [2:50:54] is 1234 followed by three, [2:50:57] four, five six and 5678. [2:50:58] The city clerk often says most [2:50:59] of that but she does not [2:51:02] reliably list the upcoming [2:51:03] speakers. [2:51:04] This means that speakers often [2:51:04] have no idea when they will be [2:51:07] called. [2:51:08] Speakers have no idea if they [2:51:08] are first in the queue or 10th [2:51:09] in the queue. [2:51:12] Speakers have no advance notice [2:51:12] of when they are expected to [2:51:13] unmute and begin speaking [2:51:14] the best case This is [2:51:16] inefficient. [2:51:17] In the worst case citizens are [2:51:18] often surprised when called and [2:51:22] unable to unmute in time to [2:51:22] speak. [2:51:23] Please at least announce each [2:51:23] speaker along with the two [2:51:27] following speakers every time. [2:51:28] With regard to MR. Campfield, [2:51:28] your comments might be taken [2:51:29] seriously if you weren't so [2:51:31] hypocritical about protecting [2:51:32] the rights of all citizens in [2:51:32] our city. [2:51:33] Charity begins at home. [2:51:36] Shame on you for grandstanding [2:51:36] on the national issue while [2:51:37] ignoring the obvious local [2:51:37] abuses. [2:51:41] Finally MS.. [2:51:42] Saldana is spot on with regard [2:51:42] to the disrespect that this [2:51:43] Council shows the public Thank [2:51:46] you to MISS Saldana. [2:51:47] >> Thank you. [2:51:47] Thank you. [2:51:50] Wrap your next please on mute. [2:51:55] After that as Madison. [2:51:55] Good afternoon. [2:51:59] My name is Becky Rapp and I [2:52:00] come here out of concern [2:52:00] regarding the proposal to add [2:52:04] 36 new pot permits for [2:52:05] the socially equitable cannabis [2:52:05] program. [2:52:06] It's important to look at [2:52:10] neighboring cities as they have [2:52:10] already pursued and implemented [2:52:11] this program. [2:52:15] One example is Los Angeles as [2:52:15] their program has shown serious [2:52:16] shortfalls. [2:52:19] First the financial reality [2:52:20] Hundreds of cannabis licenses [2:52:20] were issued including many [2:52:21] through their social equity [2:52:24] program. [2:52:24] Yet they're struggling. [2:52:25] Reports indicate that hundreds [2:52:29] of businesses owe back taxes [2:52:29] and the city is facing hundreds [2:52:30] of millions of dollars in [2:52:33] unpaid marijuana tax revenue. [2:52:34] When an industry cannot meet [2:52:35] its tax obligations, it raises [2:52:38] an important question Is [2:52:38] expanding the program fiscally [2:52:39] responsible? [2:52:43] Second, these programs have not [2:52:43] reduced the illicit market [2:52:44] which was one of the major [2:52:47] justification for permitting [2:52:48] these businesses in the first [2:52:48] place. [2:52:52] Even after years of licensing [2:52:53] and enforcement, Los Angeles [2:52:53] still deals with numerous [2:52:57] illegal operations. [2:52:58] San Diego should learn from [2:52:58] these experiences. [2:52:59] Our city is already facing [2:53:02] significant budget pressures [2:53:03] and we know that our permitted [2:53:07] businesses have also struggled [2:53:08] with paying taxes and we [2:53:08] the public have yet to be [2:53:09] presented with an updated [2:53:12] auditing report showing exactly [2:53:13] how significant our lack of [2:53:16] back taxes is. [2:53:17] Now is not the time to expand [2:53:18] programs that MAY require [2:53:21] substantial oversight, [2:53:22] administrative resources and [2:53:23] enforcement. [2:53:23] While we struggle to monitor [2:53:27] for the existing businesses we [2:53:27] already have committed in our [2:53:31] city, I urge the Council to [2:53:32] carefully evaluate whether this [2:53:33] approach or approach truly [2:53:36] meets our goals for public [2:53:37] safety, fiscal responsibility [2:53:37] and community well-being. [2:53:41] Thank you. [2:53:41] >> Thank you. [2:53:46] Next is Madison After Madison [2:53:46] is 1822. [2:53:46] Hi. [2:53:47] Thank you. [2:53:47] Good afternoon. [2:53:51] Council members an issue in San [2:53:52] Diego that deserves special [2:53:55] attention is what happens when [2:53:56] young people begin using [2:53:56] marijuana regularly and develop [2:54:00] dependance adolescent is a [2:54:01] critical period for brain [2:54:01] development. [2:54:02] The brain continues developing [2:54:05] into the mid-twenties [2:54:05] especially the areas [2:54:06] responsible for memory decision [2:54:10] making and emotional [2:54:10] regulation. [2:54:11] When teenagers are repeatedly [2:54:15] exposed to high levels of thc [2:54:15] during this time, research [2:54:16] shows it can interfere with [2:54:19] those developmental processes [2:54:20] according to physicians and [2:54:21] toxicology researchers. [2:54:25] Thc spreads quickly into [2:54:26] tissues throughout the body [2:54:26] rather than remaining in [2:54:30] the bloodstream where it can be [2:54:30] easily measured. [2:54:31] This means that even when a [2:54:35] drug test appears negative, thc [2:54:35] and its biological effects MAY [2:54:36] still be present in body [2:54:39] tissues. [2:54:40] Young people who develop [2:54:41] cannabis dependance are more [2:54:44] likely to experience long term [2:54:45] problems with attention [2:54:46] learning and mental health. [2:54:49] Studies have also linked [2:54:50] frequent adolescent marijuana [2:54:50] use to increased risks of [2:54:54] anxiety, depression and even [2:54:55] psychosis. [2:54:59] What begins as experimentation [2:55:00] can turn into a pattern that [2:55:00] affects a young person's [2:55:04] academic success Mental health [2:55:04] and future opportunities. [2:55:08] As these policies continue to [2:55:08] evolve, I also agree that we [2:55:09] should not be doing [2:55:10] the socially equitable Cannabis [2:55:13] program and encourage the city [2:55:14] to keep youth prevention and [2:55:15] education at the center of [2:55:18] the conversation so that we [2:55:19] don't normalize this harmful [2:55:19] drug. [2:55:22] And the next generation can [2:55:23] have the healthiest possible [2:55:23] start. [2:55:24] >> Thank you. [2:55:24] Thank you. [2:55:32] Next is 1822. [2:55:33] After that is Terry and Kelly [2:55:33] 1822. [2:55:36] Please proceed. [2:55:36] >> Good morning. [2:55:37] Thank you. [2:55:41] I too opposed to expansion of [2:55:42] the social equity program. [2:55:42] As a public health advocate and [2:55:43] youth manner. [2:55:46] I wondered why concern over [2:55:50] tobacco's adverse impact on [2:55:51] public health has been extended [2:55:51] to marijuana which presents [2:55:55] similar risks but worse. [2:55:56] Finally, media is acknowledging [2:55:59] this mistake. [2:56:00] I'd like to share a few [2:56:01] headlines from just the past [2:56:04] few weeks that challenged [2:56:05] misperceptions about marijuana [2:56:09] safety and commercialization in [2:56:10] New York Times. [2:56:10] 20 million Americans say [2:56:14] they're always high. [2:56:15] Even liberals recognize [2:56:19] the craze has gone too far. [2:56:20] Wall Street Journal. [2:56:20] High schools are losing [2:56:24] the fight against pot at [2:56:24] the Times. [2:56:24] Yeah. [2:56:25] She goes up in the body [2:56:28] influencing inflammation and [2:56:28] immunity. [2:56:29] Multimedia. [2:56:34] Which study links adolescent [2:56:34] cannabis use to double the risk [2:56:38] of psychotic and bipolar [2:56:38] disorders? [2:56:39] Former White House drug czar [2:56:42] calls Marijuana Massively [2:56:43] Destructive. [2:56:47] 40% of drivers killed in [2:56:47] crashes had an active thc in [2:56:51] their systems. [2:56:52] Another study reveals cannabis [2:56:56] adverse impact on working [2:56:56] memory. [2:56:57] Marijuana linked to premature [2:57:01] cardio vascular disease. [2:57:02] And here's one Department of [2:57:06] Justice makes the case [2:57:10] marijuana users should lose [2:57:10] Second Amendment rights because [2:57:11] they're unpredictable and prone [2:57:15] to violence. [2:57:15] This is a small sampling. [2:57:16] I urge you to follow [2:57:19] the science and the articles I [2:57:20] just published weekly. [2:57:24] They signal a pro legalization [2:57:25] reversal by the media now [2:57:29] admitting they were wrong and [2:57:30] calling for policy change to [2:57:30] protect public health. [2:57:34] I hope you'll do the same. [2:57:35] >> Thank you. [2:57:35] Thank you. [2:57:38] Next is Terry and Scully After [2:57:38] that is Kathleen Lippert. [2:57:43] Please unmute. [2:57:43] Hello. [2:57:47] Can you hear me? [2:57:48] >> Yes. [2:57:48] Please proceed. [2:57:49] Okay, great. [2:57:52] I was having some audio [2:57:53] problems. [2:57:53] Hello. [2:57:53] Good afternoon. [2:57:54] My name is Terry and Scully. [2:57:58] I'm a parent and a planning [2:57:58] group member and a public [2:57:59] health educator and economic [2:58:02] development and governing [2:58:03] Governmental Relations [2:58:03] Committee. [2:58:06] Last week I spoke to item five [2:58:07] entitled Establishment of a [2:58:11] Cannabis Social Equity and [2:58:12] Economic Development or Seed [2:58:16] program in county Public [2:58:16] Health. [2:58:16] We are very aware of [2:58:17] the increase in adolescents who [2:58:20] are experiencing health [2:58:21] problems associated with their [2:58:22] smoking and vaping and [2:58:25] the effect it had on their job [2:58:26] and their school trajectory. [2:58:30] So last week's item number five [2:58:30] was very confusing to me since [2:58:35] marijuana products are most [2:58:35] often smoked or made, [2:58:36] the tobacco industry has [2:58:39] strategically targeted black [2:58:40] Americans for decades [2:58:44] drastically, drastically [2:58:44] affecting their their health [2:58:45] outcomes And now the marijuana [2:58:46] industry is doing the same [2:58:49] thing. [2:58:50] The Truth Initiative, a premier [2:58:50] nonprofit recognized this [2:58:54] situation and joined the acp In [2:58:55] announcing a partnership to [2:58:59] address the industry's [2:58:59] exploitation of black [2:59:00] communities and empower [2:59:04] individuals to quit their [2:59:05] recent factsheets states and I [2:59:09] quote early and heavy marijuana [2:59:10] use is linked to a lack of [2:59:11] economic and social attainment [2:59:14] for young people. [2:59:14] Early and heavy marijuana use [2:59:19] is linked to increased risk of [2:59:19] psychiatric disorders including [2:59:23] psychosis, depression, anxiety [2:59:23] and other substance use [2:59:24] disorders. [2:59:28] Frequent smoking of marijuana [2:59:29] increases the risk of lung [2:59:32] issues such as bronchitis. [2:59:33] The c program is the wrong [2:59:37] program because of diminish [2:59:38] the health outcomes for young [2:59:39] people and other vulnerable [2:59:43] populations and communities of [2:59:43] concern. [2:59:44] Thank you for hearing my [2:59:48] concerns this afternoon. [2:59:49] Thank you. [2:59:49] Kathleen Lippert If you can [2:59:52] please unmute. [2:59:52] >> Thank you. [2:59:53] Good afternoon. [2:59:57] Thank you for letting me speak. [2:59:58] I'd like to address [3:00:01] the disconnect between the city [3:00:02] and what the city claims to [3:00:06] support and and fund versus [3:00:07] what it actually does in [3:00:07] practice. [3:00:11] So last year dsd sent out a [3:00:12] news release touting how [3:00:16] critical it was to hear from [3:00:17] community members to best [3:00:20] improve our communities to [3:00:21] inform their five year [3:00:25] infrastructure plan. [3:00:26] San Diegans submitted more than [3:00:26] 1200 ideas. [3:00:31] This is a great title but it [3:00:31] was too bad that it bore no [3:00:35] resemblance to actual community [3:00:35] priorities that they [3:00:36] identified. [3:00:36] They identified Parks [3:00:40] Recreation centers, places to [3:00:40] play as top priorities followed [3:00:45] by safe sidewalk walks, open [3:00:46] spaces and libraries. [3:00:49] They never mention pot shops, [3:00:50] equity licenses, sidewalk pop [3:00:54] out that prevent pedestrian [3:00:55] walking bicycle lanes and void [3:00:59] and they but boy did you [3:01:00] avoided independent cost [3:01:04] analysis that allow you to [3:01:05] continue to support what you [3:01:09] want versus what are going to [3:01:10] be the ramifications and [3:01:10] harmful side effects and [3:01:14] unintended consequences. [3:01:15] But the city has also endorsed [3:01:19] rezoning laws. [3:01:19] Community residents want that [3:01:24] to keep their residential [3:01:24] zoning. [3:01:25] They do not want developers to [3:01:29] destroy their single family [3:01:30] residences and the investments [3:01:33] that they made in those in [3:01:34] those homes that they spent a [3:01:38] lot of money to build and [3:01:43] provide for their families. [3:01:44] The negative impacts of [3:01:47] rezoning and mixed use zoning [3:01:48] without public input are [3:01:49] negatively impacting diverse [3:01:53] communities across the city [3:01:53] with a claim of increasing low [3:01:58] income instead. [3:01:58] Thank you for letting me speak. [3:01:59] Thank you. [3:02:00] That does conclude not a [3:02:02] general public comment for [3:02:03] today's meeting. [3:02:03] >> All right. [3:02:04] Thank you City Clerk We will [3:10:14] P.M. Or shortly thereafter [3:12:14] And [3:14:27] I [3:14:27] . [3:14:28] >> Good afternoon. [3:14:28] I will now reconvene the city [3:14:32] council meeting of Tuesday, [3:14:33] MARCH 10th, 2026 clerk Please [3:14:36] call the roll. [3:14:36] Thank you. [3:14:37] Council PRESIDENT Council [3:14:38] Member Campbell Councilmember [3:14:41] Weapon Oh okay. [3:14:45] Thank you for letting me know. [3:14:46] Councilmember Foster here [3:14:50] Councilmember Von Wilpert [3:14:50] Council Member Council [3:14:55] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee here [3:14:55] Councilmember Campos here [3:14:56] Councilmember Moreno Present [3:15:00] Council member Ella Rivera and [3:15:01] Council PRESIDENT LaCava [3:15:04] present also attending [3:15:05] the meeting our Assistant City [3:15:05] Attorney Leslie Fitzgerald [3:15:06] Independent budget Analyst [3:15:09] Charles Monica and myself your [3:15:10] city clerk Diana Fuentes. [3:15:11] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All [3:15:11] right. [3:15:11] Thank you. [3:15:14] City Clerk. [3:15:15] Quorum is now present So with [3:15:18] that please introduce item 330. [3:15:18] >> Item 330 is an informational [3:15:23] item City of San Diego Fiscal [3:15:23] year 2027 through 2031 five [3:15:28] year capital infrastructure [3:15:28] Teacher Planning Outlook If [3:15:29] you'd like to speak to this [3:15:30] item and are here in chambers [3:15:33] please be sure to submit your [3:15:33] speaker slip to the front of [3:15:34] the room in the clear box If [3:15:37] you are participate remotely [3:15:38] now's the time to raise your [3:15:39] hand by pressing Star nine or [3:15:41] the raise your hand icon. [3:15:42] Thank you. [3:15:47] All right. [3:15:48] I see staff is making their way [3:16:08] through the drive and now that [3:16:08] you're settling in introduce [3:16:09] yourselves for the records and [3:16:12] let us know how much time you [3:16:12] need. [3:16:13] Good afternoon. [3:16:14] Council PRESIDENT Lee Carver [3:16:17] and Distinguished Council [3:16:17] members. [3:16:18] My name is Karen McGriff and I [3:16:18] am the assistant director over [3:16:22] the project Management office [3:16:23] in the Engineering and Capital [3:16:23] Projects Department. [3:16:26] We will need approximately 15 [3:16:27] minutes for a presentation [3:16:27] today. [3:16:28] All right. [3:16:32] When you're ready with me today [3:16:33] I also have Michael Puleo who [3:16:33] is our who is a financial [3:16:36] operations manager overseeing [3:16:37] cip in the Department of [3:16:37] Finance. [3:16:41] And today that we will present [3:16:41] to you the 12th annual five [3:16:42] year Capital Infrastructure [3:16:45] Planning Outlook covering [3:16:46] fiscal year 27 through 31. [3:16:50] Before we start I really do [3:16:51] want to take this opportunity [3:16:52] to thank everybody who has [3:16:52] contributed to this effort. [3:16:55] Many of whom are both online [3:16:56] and in chambers today and [3:17:00] available to help answer any [3:17:01] questions that you MAY have at [3:17:01] the end of the presentation. [3:17:05] Without them we possibly could [3:17:05] not gathered all of the data [3:17:06] needed to prepare a or [3:17:09] meaningful report for areas. [3:17:10] The document is a planning tool [3:17:14] to assist all of us in long [3:17:14] term capital infrastructure [3:17:15] planning. [3:17:15] The report helps to monitor [3:17:19] project and evaluate [3:17:19] the availability of funding to [3:17:20] meet long term needs. [3:17:24] The report also helps to ensure [3:17:25] alignment between the city's [3:17:25] multiple asset managing and [3:17:28] service providing departments [3:17:29] to achieve the city's vision [3:17:30] and objectives for community [3:17:33] infrastructure. [3:17:34] While this report is not a [3:17:35] budget, it does help to guide a [3:17:38] financial guide financial [3:17:38] decisions on infrastructure [3:17:42] priorities and to facilitate [3:17:43] the development of the upcoming [3:17:44] fiscal year 27 budget. [3:17:48] I will as previously mentioned [3:17:53] this is the 12th report that we [3:17:54] have prepared In the report we [3:17:57] summarize citywide capital [3:17:58] needs and expected revenues for [3:17:59] the reporting period. [3:18:03] We quantify the asset [3:18:03] management department's needs [3:18:04] to meet their desired levels of [3:18:07] service and because we [3:18:08] recognize that not all needs [3:18:10] can or will be met in the five [3:18:11] year period, we have also begun [3:18:14] to quantify the high level [3:18:15] needs for years 2032 and beyond [3:18:15] which are outside of [3:18:19] the outlook period. [3:18:20] The means identified [3:18:20] incorporate input gathered from [3:18:24] the community via the Planning [3:18:25] Department's Community Input [3:18:25] survey as well as [3:18:28] the prioritized priorities [3:18:29] identified in your council [3:18:30] priority memos both of which [3:18:33] are incorporated into asset [3:18:34] management plans developed by [3:18:34] the amd's themselves [3:18:38] Engineering and Capital [3:18:38] Projects and Department of [3:18:39] Finance work together to [3:18:43] forecast the eligible cip [3:18:44] revenues that are expected to [3:18:44] be available to the program [3:18:48] Needs are matched with revenues [3:18:49] to help us provide [3:18:49] the financial outlook or gap [3:18:53] number diving directly into [3:18:56] the report results over [3:18:57] the next five years the city [3:19:00] scape has an estimated $12.82 [3:19:01] billion of identified needs. [3:19:05] These needs are represented by [3:19:06] the blue bars on the graph We [3:19:09] estimate that just over $5 [3:19:10] billion of funding will be [3:19:10] available to meet [3:19:11] the identified needs over [3:19:14] the outlook period. [3:19:14] Funding availability is [3:19:15] represented by the green bars [3:19:16] on the graph There is an [3:19:19] additional $5.96 billion of [3:19:19] needs identified beyond [3:19:23] the outlook period shown on [3:19:24] this slide in blue Are [3:19:24] the revenues projected to be [3:19:28] available for the sip program [3:19:29] for each of the last five years [3:19:33] shown in yellow are the actual [3:19:34] budgets that were added to [3:19:34] the sip program. [3:19:38] I'm very pleased to note that [3:19:39] over the past five years [3:19:40] the funding anticipated for [3:19:43] the sip program has been [3:19:44] available as projected. [3:19:44] Notable variances have come [3:19:48] from windfall opportunities [3:19:49] such as straight state or [3:19:49] federal grants. [3:19:50] The green bar on this graph [3:19:54] also shows the increased output [3:19:54] production and project [3:19:55] execution levels for the sip [3:19:59] program Fiscal year 26 is [3:20:00] showing activity only through [3:20:03] the midway through the fiscal [3:20:04] year and both the yellow and [3:20:05] green bars will be growing by [3:20:08] fiscal year end. [3:20:08] >> We do expect the positive [3:20:09] execution trend to continue for [3:20:13] several years as ecp continues [3:20:13] to streamline delivery to [3:20:14] increase cost effective [3:20:18] production. [3:20:18] However, we recognize that [3:20:19] the industry has limitations [3:20:20] and areas are already starting [3:20:25] to feel the strain Each year we [3:20:26] look for new ways to analyze [3:20:27] the data. [3:20:30] >> This year we separated [3:20:31] projects that were already in [3:20:31] process somewhere in [3:20:35] the delivery pipeline from [3:20:35] those projects that still [3:20:36] needed to be initiated. [3:20:39] We also prioritized matching [3:20:40] revenues to existing projects [3:20:41] so that our five year plan [3:20:45] emphasizes finishing what we've [3:20:45] started. [3:20:45] What you see here shows [3:20:49] the total capital program on [3:20:50] the white lines were $12.8 [3:20:53] billion At the top is funded [3:20:54] with $5 billion in the middle [3:20:54] leaving a total programmatic [3:20:58] funding gap of $7.8 billion at [3:20:59] the bottom existing projects [3:21:02] are in light blue and new [3:21:03] projects are in the darker [3:21:03] blue. [3:21:07] As you can see in the first few [3:21:07] years of the outlook needs are [3:21:08] higher and the vast majority of [3:21:11] funding is planned to complete [3:21:11] existing projects. [3:21:12] New projects have a lesser [3:21:16] funding need and also funding [3:21:17] program at the beginning of [3:21:17] the outlook. [3:21:20] But this ramps up significantly [3:21:21] towards the end of the outlook [3:21:25] period as we continue to break [3:21:26] down the overall programmatic [3:21:30] needs for the capital program. [3:21:31] This table identifies the $3.5 [3:21:34] billion of identified needs [3:21:35] from our enterprise funded [3:21:35] departments. [3:21:36] Enterprise funds operate [3:21:39] similarly to private businesses [3:21:40] and set rates charged to end [3:21:40] users. [3:21:44] These rates ensure that [3:21:45] sufficient income is available [3:21:45] to support all operations, [3:21:46] maintenance and capital [3:21:49] investment activity for [3:21:50] the Enterprise Fund shown on [3:21:51] this table in order from [3:21:53] highest to lowest needs are [3:21:58] the city's enterprise funds. [3:21:59] >> This table shows the Non [3:22:00] enterprise Fund asset needs [3:22:00] broken down by the various [3:22:03] asset types They are shown from [3:22:04] largest need to smallest with [3:22:07] storm water infrastructure [3:22:08] making up the city's largest [3:22:11] single asset type need at over [3:22:12] $5.5 billion Transportation and [3:22:12] transportation pavement and [3:22:17] parks are the city's next two [3:22:20] largest identified needs And of [3:22:20] the $9.3 billion of identified [3:22:24] general fund asset needs $1.5 [3:22:24] billion of funding or roughly [3:22:29] 16% is expected to be available [3:22:29] to meet these needs. [3:22:33] This leads an overall gap of [3:22:33] $7.8 billion and now turn it [3:22:34] over to Michael to discuss [3:22:38] revenues even though there is a [3:22:41] sizable gap we have identified [3:22:41] over $1.5 billion in funding [3:22:42] that is expected to be [3:22:46] available for the General Fund [3:22:47] capital Improvements program. [3:22:48] This table shows the expected [3:22:52] funding sources for the c I p [3:22:52] program from largest to [3:22:56] smallest the largest funding [3:22:56] source is expected to be [3:22:57] general fund financing. [3:23:00] Most of the 665 million in [3:23:01] projected financing will be [3:23:05] allocated to ensure compliance [3:23:06] with the terms of the already [3:23:09] executed stormwater with yellow [3:23:10] based on previous general fund [3:23:11] monitoring exercises. [3:23:14] The outlook reflects that [3:23:15] approximately $96 million of [3:23:16] general fund financing could be [3:23:20] added to the vip program each [3:23:21] fiscal year citywide for [3:23:25] mobility parks, fire and [3:23:25] libraries are ramping up and [3:23:29] projected to bring in nearly [3:23:30] 230 million over the outlook [3:23:30] period. [3:23:34] There is no infrastructure fund [3:23:35] contribution planned for [3:23:35] the cip during the outlook [3:23:39] period And while we do project [3:23:39] climate equity funds to be [3:23:40] available, those funds are [3:23:41] eligible to support [3:23:44] infrastructure related [3:23:45] activities and MAY not be [3:23:49] allocated to the scope program [3:23:49] as part of the upcoming budget [3:23:50] development cycle or MAY be [3:23:54] waived shown Here are the needs [3:23:59] and anticipated revenue trends [3:23:59] for the last five outlook [3:24:00] reporting periods including [3:24:04] this year. [3:24:04] Both needs and revenues have [3:24:08] increased over time. [3:24:09] However the increase in needs [3:24:10] is outpacing that of revenues [3:24:13] Additional revenue sources [3:24:14] would need to be identified to [3:24:19] close the gap. [3:24:19] We have noticed a dip in [3:24:20] the needs in the middle of [3:24:22] the preceding slide. [3:24:23] This step occurred in the first [3:24:24] year that the beyond five years [3:24:27] category was added to [3:24:28] the outlook when we show all [3:24:31] identified needs for both [3:24:32] the five year period and beyond [3:24:33] the five year period the city's [3:24:36] current infrastructure needs [3:24:37] outlook is $18.78 billion. [3:24:41] Why do we continue to fear [3:24:42] growth and needs Several [3:24:43] factors contribute to [3:24:46] the growth primarily [3:24:46] the infrastructure itself in [3:24:50] addition to the new to the need [3:24:51] for new infrastructure that [3:24:52] addresses growth existing [3:24:55] infrastructure aging and goes [3:24:56] through a cycle of [3:24:56] rehabilitation and replacement. [3:25:00] Another major contributor is [3:25:01] the rise and the associated [3:25:02] cost to design and construct [3:25:05] these projects due to increased [3:25:06] regulations replacement to [3:25:10] higher standards and industry [3:25:10] limitations on what can be [3:25:11] delivered both arterials and [3:25:15] labor. [3:25:15] There is some good news as we [3:25:18] look beyond a five or even ten [3:25:19] year horizon we see [3:25:20] the completion of major efforts [3:25:23] that ultimately result in lower [3:25:24] needs in the far outer years. [3:25:28] I will now turn it over to [3:25:29] the Chief of Community Services [3:25:29] Rania Ahmed for the concluding [3:25:33] remarks. [3:25:33] Thank you Michael. [3:25:37] I just want to closing by [3:25:38] summarizing what Michael and [3:25:43] and Karen has presented here [3:25:43] this afternoon. [3:25:47] So over the next five years [3:25:47] Rania, I'm sorry to interrupt [3:25:48] Can you turn your mic on and [3:25:50] have a little bit closer to [3:25:55] maybe I need a closer or make [3:25:56] sure that folks remotely can [3:25:57] hear you Can you hear me better [3:25:57] now? [3:26:00] Yeah, perfect. [3:26:00] Thank you. [3:26:01] So over the next five years [3:26:04] the projected cost increases [3:26:04] really reflect several factors [3:26:09] that cities across the country [3:26:09] are experiencing. [3:26:10] Many of our public assets are [3:26:14] aging as the team mentioned [3:26:14] earlier today. [3:26:15] And when maintenance is [3:26:19] deferred due to funding [3:26:20] limitation, the cost of repairs [3:26:23] grows as conditions worsen. [3:26:24] At the same time construction [3:26:25] cost, labor and materials has [3:26:28] increased significantly in [3:26:28] recent years and there is less [3:26:29] competition for contractors In [3:26:33] addition, projects today must [3:26:34] meet evolving regulatory [3:26:37] requirements environmental [3:26:38] standards, city priorities, [3:26:39] policy direction and service [3:26:42] and community expectations. [3:26:43] Together these factors [3:26:47] contributed to the growing [3:26:47] funding gap outlined in this [3:26:48] report. [3:26:49] We must continue to balance [3:26:52] funding allocations between [3:26:53] maintaining existing assets and [3:26:57] delivering new infrastructure. [3:26:58] We're also advancing long term [3:26:58] affordable asset management [3:27:02] plans. [3:27:02] At the same time we will [3:27:03] continue to pursue design and [3:27:06] construction grand particularly [3:27:07] for non enterprise [3:27:11] infrastructure over the past [3:27:12] several years the city has made [3:27:16] progress and I just want to [3:27:16] acknowledge all that that [3:27:17] progress has been made in [3:27:21] developing cp prioritization [3:27:21] policies, service level [3:27:22] standards and completing [3:27:26] condition assessment for some [3:27:26] assets such as the pavement [3:27:27] management plan. [3:27:31] However many assets remain [3:27:32] outdated including those for [3:27:36] facilities system and updating [3:27:36] these inventories and condition [3:27:37] d that will require additional [3:27:41] investment based on current [3:27:41] information as was shared by [3:27:45] the team here. [3:27:49] The estimated funding gap of [3:27:53] 7.8 billions or an average of [3:27:54] 1.5 billion a year this is a [3:27:58] significant amount addressing [3:27:59] this challenge will require [3:27:59] continued investment in a [3:28:02] disciplined data driven [3:28:03] approach that strengthen asset [3:28:04] management, prioritize [3:28:08] prevention maintenance, [3:28:09] preventive maintenance is very [3:28:09] critical and continue shifting [3:28:13] toward programmatic delivery so [3:28:14] we can make strategic long term [3:28:18] infrastructure investment. [3:28:18] Ultimately this work is about [3:28:19] making informed strategic [3:28:23] investments so we can protect [3:28:24] the infrastructure we have [3:28:27] today while responsibly [3:28:28] planning for the city long term [3:28:28] needs. [3:28:32] With that I will conclude our [3:28:33] presentation and then we'll be [3:28:34] more happy to take questions. [3:28:34] >> All right. [3:28:38] Thank you all for the work and [3:28:38] the presentation this [3:28:38] afternoon. [3:28:42] We will now turn it over to [3:28:43] the Office of the Independent [3:28:43] Budget analyst for a [3:28:44] presentation. [3:28:44] Thank you. [3:28:46] Council for PRESIDENT Council [3:28:47] Member Thank you to staff for [3:28:48] their presentation. [3:28:52] Last week my office released a [3:28:52] review of the five year Capital [3:28:53] Infrastructure Planning Outlook [3:28:57] as we do each year to present [3:28:58] our office with review of that [3:28:59] annual How Challenged and [3:28:59] Aleena who will lead you [3:29:01] through our analysis and then [3:29:02] we will follow that up with [3:29:03] some additional comments from [3:29:06] Kym Desmond from our Division [3:29:07] of Race and Equity about using [3:29:11] an equity lending lens to look [3:29:12] at the outlook as well. [3:29:12] So Julianne, I'll turn it over [3:29:13] to you. [3:29:13] Great. [3:29:15] Thank you so much. [3:29:16] Thank you. [3:29:16] Council PRESIDENT And council [3:29:17] I'm Gillian and Ilene about [3:29:20] the office of the aba. [3:29:21] Our office released our review [3:29:22] of this type outlook last week [3:29:22] so I'll walk you through [3:29:25] the major points of it during [3:29:26] this presentation as shown in [3:29:27] this slide. [3:29:30] Capital needs and the gap are [3:29:31] expected to grow significantly [3:29:31] throughout the five year period [3:29:34] while funding is expected to [3:29:35] decline slightly. [3:29:35] The net increase in capital [3:29:39] needs is also and higher almost [3:29:40] entirely driven by stormwater [3:29:40] which accounts for water [3:29:44] quality regulatory deadlines [3:29:45] coming due in fiscal year 2031 [3:29:49] and compound needing drainage [3:29:50] assets aging past their useful [3:29:50] life. [3:29:54] The slight decline in revenue [3:29:54] is primarily driven by [3:29:55] declining availability of [3:29:58] welfare funding for stormwater [3:29:59] in fiscal year 2029 and a [3:30:03] decline in water and wastewater [3:30:04] revenues due to a three year [3:30:07] delay For certain cip projects [3:30:08] to mitigate the need for rate [3:30:12] increases in the near term and [3:30:13] in response to the approval of [3:30:14] a two year water rate increase [3:30:17] last year. [3:30:18] >> This slide shows [3:30:19] the projected funding gap for [3:30:23] each asset type as shown and [3:30:24] consistent with previous years. [3:30:27] The $7.8 billion funding gap is [3:30:31] 100% attributed to general fund [3:30:32] assets that do not have a [3:30:33] dedicated funding source [3:30:33] supported by rate paying [3:30:36] customers. [3:30:37] This year's funding gap is an [3:30:41] increase of $1.3 billion from [3:30:41] last year and again is [3:30:42] overwhelmingly driven by [3:30:45] stormwater which itself saw [3:30:46] $1.3 billion increase in [3:30:53] funding gap and makes up 65% of [3:30:54] the $7.8 billion funding gap. [3:30:58] This slide shows the makeup of [3:30:59] the projected resources in [3:30:59] the cfp outlook. [3:31:03] Projected revenue is revenue is [3:31:04] projected to decline by 7% [3:31:07] compared to last year's report [3:31:08] totaling $5 billion. [3:31:12] The increase I'm sorry [3:31:13] the decrease is largely driven [3:31:13] by changing wastewater and [3:31:17] water needs but is also related [3:31:18] to no assumed revenue from [3:31:19] the infrastructure fund. [3:31:22] Since requirements for deposits [3:31:23] into the fund are not [3:31:26] anticipated to be met over [3:31:26] the outlook period since [3:31:27] funding availability and [3:31:31] eligibility are key factors in [3:31:32] determining which projects [3:31:36] receive funding and the scope [3:31:37] budget, it's important to [3:31:40] recognize that 66% of [3:31:41] the projected funds are for [3:31:41] wastewater and water [3:31:45] infrastructure. [3:31:46] General fund financing shaded [3:31:50] above in Gray is the city's [3:31:50] only funding source with [3:31:51] minimal restrictions and is an [3:31:54] important funding source for [3:31:55] many general fund capital [3:31:56] projects such as stormwater [3:32:00] streetlights and upgraded fire [3:32:01] stations since they're often [3:32:01] ineligible for other resources [3:32:05] shown on the pie chart that can [3:32:05] be restricted based on the type [3:32:07] of asset or the geographic [3:32:12] location. [3:32:13] In our report we took a closer [3:32:17] look at two key resources for [3:32:17] general fund capital projects [3:32:18] and that's general fund [3:32:22] financing and development [3:32:23] impact fees. [3:32:23] Starting with financing [3:32:27] the issuance of lease revenue [3:32:28] bonds is the most significant [3:32:29] source of flexible funding for [3:32:32] general fund capital projects [3:32:32] Out of the $531 million [3:32:35] anticipated over the five year [3:32:36] period. [3:32:36] Almost half of it is for [3:32:41] stormwater and within that 150 [3:32:41] million reserved for [3:32:42] anticipated emergencies Another [3:32:46] large portion of general fund [3:32:46] financing is expected to go to [3:32:50] support street repaving. [3:32:50] Citywide difference are [3:32:51] increasingly becoming more [3:32:52] accessible to general fund [3:32:55] capital projects as we continue [3:32:56] to transition from community [3:33:00] based def community based If [3:33:01] long term funding that can be [3:33:05] only spent in certain [3:33:06] communities whereas citywide [3:33:06] live can generally be spent [3:33:09] citywide. [3:33:10] >> The city recently created [3:33:14] four citywide funds The fire [3:33:15] library mobility and parks [3:33:15] diffs. [3:33:19] While these are more flexible [3:33:19] than community based if they [3:33:20] still have restrictions on [3:33:21] the types of projects they can [3:33:24] support as the transition [3:33:25] continues it's expected that [3:33:29] citywide diff revenue will [3:33:29] continue to increase while [3:33:33] community def decreases. [3:33:34] Moving to projected capital [3:33:38] needs this slide shows [3:33:39] the makeup of projected capital [3:33:42] needs over the five year period [3:33:46] totaling 12.8 billion which is [3:33:47] $950 million or 8% above Last [3:33:51] year's report. [3:33:52] As with the increase in funding [3:33:53] gap, stormwater capital needs [3:33:56] make up the over whelming [3:33:57] majority of the total increase [3:34:01] in capital needs as shown on [3:34:02] the pie chart. [3:34:02] It now makes up 43% of all [3:34:06] capital needs and has [3:34:06] the highest total needs of any [3:34:10] asset including water and [3:34:11] wastewater combined. [3:34:15] To understand what drives this [3:34:16] billion dollars and billions of [3:34:16] dollars of needs, our report [3:34:20] focuses on stormwater street [3:34:21] pavement and all three facility [3:34:25] categories which is new [3:34:25] expanded and existing [3:34:26] facilities all of which make up [3:34:30] nearly 80% of all general fund [3:34:30] capital needs. [3:34:34] First we will cover stormwater [3:34:37] Stormwater is projected to have [3:34:38] a $5.5 billion capital need [3:34:39] over the five year period which [3:34:42] is an increase of $1.4 billion [3:34:43] over last year's report. [3:34:47] Flood resilience or flood [3:34:48] mitigation is a major driver [3:34:49] making up nearly $1 billion of [3:34:53] this increase. [3:34:53] As mentioned earlier, this is [3:34:54] due to more and more drain [3:34:57] drainage assets passing their [3:34:58] useful life as well as cost [3:34:59] increases. [3:35:03] As shown on the table, $30 [3:35:06] million per year or a total of [3:35:07] 150 million is included for [3:35:08] anticipated emergency projects [3:35:11] which is a very inefficient and [3:35:12] costly way to replace [3:35:12] infrastructure. [3:35:16] Funding for stormwater is [3:35:17] expected to drop after fiscal [3:35:18] year 2028 due to the planned [3:35:21] use of most of the remaining [3:35:22] work alone funds. [3:35:22] The remaining funds in [3:35:26] the future year is expected to [3:35:27] mostly go to either emergency [3:35:27] projects or in-house repair [3:35:31] crews for green infrastructure [3:35:31] or water quality projects. [3:35:35] It's largely driven by water [3:35:40] quality regulatory deadlines [3:35:41] moving to street paving. [3:35:44] Total capital needs are 970 [3:35:48] million which is an increase of [3:35:48] 132 million. [3:35:49] This is an increase despite an [3:35:53] assumption that the city will [3:35:54] maintain streets at a pavement [3:35:57] condition index of 65 instead [3:35:58] of the former 70 which was [3:36:01] considered good. [3:36:02] This aligns with the pavement [3:36:03] management plan update [3:36:06] indicating that maintaining [3:36:07] streets at a pci of 65 is more [3:36:11] financially feasible than 70. [3:36:12] In the context of the current [3:36:16] budget deficit although the pci [3:36:21] target has decreased, costs are [3:36:21] still higher than last year's [3:36:22] report because there's an [3:36:25] increase in streets due to for [3:36:26] treatment and repair within [3:36:26] the outlook period. [3:36:27] Funding for streets is [3:36:30] projected to decrease by 45% as [3:36:31] compared to last year's report [3:36:35] due to no infrastructure fund [3:36:36] contributions as well as this [3:36:36] year's assumption that [3:36:39] significantly less funding will [3:36:44] support repaving. [3:36:45] Finally in our report we [3:36:46] highlight all three categories [3:36:49] of facilities existing new and [3:36:53] expanded together needs total [3:36:53] 890 million which is $75 [3:36:54] million above last year's [3:36:54] report. [3:36:58] The vast majority of these [3:36:58] needs are for new facilities [3:37:01] but I'll touch on existing [3:37:02] facilities first. [3:37:06] >> Sorry there's 183 million in [3:37:10] capital needs for existing [3:37:10] facilities in the five year [3:37:14] period but an additional 661 [3:37:14] million listed outside the five [3:37:18] year period is reported which [3:37:19] is related to prior facility [3:37:20] condition assessments. [3:37:23] We note that this figure in [3:37:24] the out years is likely [3:37:24] understated given that [3:37:28] the assessments were conducted [3:37:29] between 2014 and 2016 and do [3:37:34] not include all facilities. [3:37:34] But getting back to the five [3:37:37] year window, the 183 million [3:37:38] showing in the outlook is an [3:37:41] increase of 14% and this is [3:37:45] driven by $44 million needed [3:37:46] for fire rescue facilities to [3:37:48] move away from natural gas and [3:37:49] $20 million for police range [3:37:53] refurbishment Phase two [3:37:53] remediation. [3:37:54] And these increases are offset [3:37:57] by about $40 million in [3:37:58] existing facility projects not [3:38:01] included in this year's report [3:38:02] . [3:38:02] Some were left off [3:38:03] inadvertently while others were [3:38:07] intentionally removed due to [3:38:07] changes in priorities or [3:38:12] developing alternate solutions [3:38:12] . [3:38:12] There's also $78 million [3:38:13] included for general life cycle [3:38:17] needs that we encourage in [3:38:18] the future outlooks that this [3:38:19] get a little bit more fleshed [3:38:22] out as to whether it's for [3:38:22] specific projects, anticipated [3:38:26] emergencies or related to [3:38:27] unaddressed condition [3:38:27] assessment items. [3:38:28] Ultimately we will need updated [3:38:31] facility condition assessments [3:38:32] to know the true needs for [3:38:33] existing facilities and which [3:38:36] ones are most pressing and [3:38:37] turning to new and expanding [3:38:37] facilities. [3:38:42] Demands for new facilities make [3:38:42] up the vast majority of total [3:38:43] needs in this category and [3:38:46] the largest project totals 250 [3:38:47] million. [3:38:50] Updated cost could be closer to [3:38:51] 370 million which is for a new [3:38:55] training center to replace [3:38:56] the one located at the Naval [3:38:56] Training Center station that [3:39:00] will be impacted by pure water [3:39:05] in fiscal year 2029. [3:39:06] Moving on, our report also [3:39:06] compares the outlook against [3:39:10] the city's the City Council's [3:39:10] infrastructure budget [3:39:13] priorities which for fiscal [3:39:14] year 2027 were transportation [3:39:18] and mobility streets including [3:39:19] unimproved streets, stormwater [3:39:19] sidewalks and facilities. [3:39:23] As you can see on the table, [3:39:24] funding is anticipated for all [3:39:24] of them except for unimproved [3:39:28] streets. [3:39:29] Although there's anticipated [3:39:29] funding for all of the asset [3:39:33] types that were priorities, [3:39:34] there's still a significant [3:39:34] funding gap remaining in [3:39:38] council's upcoming review of [3:39:39] the proposed budget. [3:39:42] It could consider reallocating [3:39:42] eligible funding to better [3:39:43] align with infrastructure [3:39:43] priorities. [3:39:47] But given that flexible funding [3:39:48] is so limited, prioritizing [3:39:52] infrastructure needs will come [3:39:53] with difficult tradeoffs and [3:39:56] challenges. [3:39:57] In closing, I'll leave you with [3:39:58] a few of our main takeaways. [3:40:01] The first is stormwater needs [3:40:02] certainly dominate this type [3:40:02] outlook. [3:40:06] It's the asset type with [3:40:07] the largest capital needs [3:40:08] accounting for almost all [3:40:11] the growth in the funding gap [3:40:11] and emergency projects are [3:40:12] making up a growing share of [3:40:15] the department's project [3:40:15] portfolio. [3:40:16] Given the magnitude of [3:40:16] stormwater needs, the strain [3:40:20] and and the city's limited [3:40:25] resources and the risk that [3:40:25] field infrastructure presents [3:40:26] for the city and the public [3:40:29] action should be taken to [3:40:30] secure additional dedicated [3:40:31] funding for stormwater. [3:40:34] And second, underinvestment in [3:40:35] maintenance and rising costs [3:40:38] compound capital infrastructure [3:40:38] challenges. [3:40:39] Although this report talks [3:40:43] about city's capital needs, [3:40:44] there's also significant [3:40:45] funding unfunded maintenance [3:40:48] needs that if left unaddressed [3:40:48] will lead to increased capital [3:40:52] needs as new facilities come [3:40:53] online such as new fire [3:40:54] stations forecast in the copy [3:40:54] outlook. [3:40:58] It's critical that maintenance [3:40:58] plans be developed and funded [3:41:02] and given limited resources on [3:41:03] both the operating and capital [3:41:03] sides of the budget. [3:41:04] The city must increasingly [3:41:07] focus on prioritizing and [3:41:08] completing existing projects [3:41:12] and maintenance of existing [3:41:12] assets which makes it difficult [3:41:13] to support key policy goals [3:41:17] such as providing more [3:41:17] significant infrastructure [3:41:18] investment in underserved [3:41:21] communities or implementing [3:41:26] the Climate Action Plan. [3:41:27] Finally we need new funding [3:41:27] streams. [3:41:32] I'd like to note that if [3:41:32] the city were to focus on [3:41:33] supporting stormwater needs [3:41:36] this would have the largest [3:41:37] impact on addressing the $7.8 [3:41:37] billion funding gap and could [3:41:41] free up significant resources [3:41:42] for other critical capital [3:41:45] infrastructure priorities. [3:41:46] This concludes my presentation [3:41:47] and I'll now pass it to Kim [3:41:50] Desmond for remarks from [3:41:51] the Division of Race and [3:41:51] Equity. [3:41:51] Thank you. [3:41:56] Good afternoon. [3:41:57] Council PRESIDENT Kava and [3:41:57] Council Kim there's been here [3:41:58] the director for the Division [3:41:59] of Race and Equity. [3:42:00] As part of the review for [3:42:01] the five year capital [3:42:04] infrastructure Planning outlook [3:42:05] process we set out we found [3:42:09] several equity implications. [3:42:10] It's important to making these [3:42:14] comments in the context of [3:42:15] operations. [3:42:16] That's the important contextual [3:42:16] part too When applying [3:42:20] the equity lens. [3:42:20] So you're going to see some [3:42:21] nuance or here some nuance [3:42:24] information in that endeavor. [3:42:25] There were three significant [3:42:25] considerations equity wise that [3:42:28] our team discovered. [3:42:34] One is the vip data tracking [3:42:34] process. [3:42:35] I will give some comment in [3:42:35] that category. [3:42:39] Two is the cio p prioritization [3:42:40] score. [3:42:44] If council recalls we revised [3:42:48] that policy 814 in 2022 and [3:42:49] it's important to look back to [3:42:53] look at the outcomes of what we [3:42:53] were trying to accomplish with [3:42:54] that policy. [3:42:56] Third is five year outlook [3:42:57] alignment. [3:42:57] So those are the three [3:43:01] categories that our team has [3:43:02] some equity observations in to [3:43:07] start out in terms of the data. [3:43:08] As you heard from my colleague [3:43:12] in the team from the operations [3:43:16] side, the unfunded conversation [3:43:16] mainly regarding the facilities [3:43:17] condition assessment that [3:43:22] creates a challenge to make [3:43:22] sure that we're measuring how [3:43:23] we address cleared deficiencies [3:43:27] in different areas. [3:43:27] I do want to contextualize [3:43:28] something that's really [3:43:31] important in regards to equity [3:43:32] as it connects to policy 814. [3:43:39] In our observations out of [3:43:40] the 504 request for cip [3:43:47] projects in fiscal year 2027 to [3:43:48] 20 2027 to 2031 we found it in [3:43:52] both structurally excluded [3:43:53] communities and non struggling [3:43:53] school communities. [3:43:58] If council recalls we refer to [3:43:58] those communities in different [3:43:59] ways. [3:44:02] Promise Zones Climate Equity [3:44:03] Index So these are historically [3:44:07] disinvestment districts which [3:44:08] is why the policy was created [3:44:08] to score those projects. [3:44:15] So in this context out of [3:44:16] the 504 total sip projects that [3:44:20] were requested for funding, [3:44:21] only 90 were marked as being in [3:44:26] structurally excluded [3:44:26] communities. [3:44:27] So that that number shared with [3:44:30] you only 90 were funded Not my [3:44:34] my apologies. [3:44:35] Only 90 were requested to be in [3:44:38] those communities and only 45 [3:44:39] were fully funded. [3:44:39] So only 45 was fully funded. [3:44:43] Of the 504 requests that's [3:44:47] the districts the excluded [3:44:47] communities. [3:44:48] To offset that in [3:44:53] the non-strategic wooded areas [3:44:57] there were 413 requests in of [3:44:58] that 151 projects were funded. [3:45:02] So I'm going to give you some [3:45:02] percentages to offset those [3:45:03] numbers. [3:45:07] Meaning that in structurally [3:45:07] excluded communities 23% of [3:45:12] those total projects were [3:45:13] funded. [3:45:13] So that's the number I want you [3:45:14] to sit with. [3:45:17] And structurally excluded [3:45:18] communities Of the 504 projects [3:45:21] that were fully funded, 23% was [3:45:22] in structurally excluded [3:45:26] communities. [3:45:27] That in itself is an equity [3:45:27] implication. [3:45:30] And then the other 77% was not [3:45:35] in strokes the excluded when [3:45:35] we're doing our work [3:45:36] operationally to apply equity [3:45:36] lands. [3:45:39] The question is why? [3:45:40] Why is that so? [3:45:44] So one thing we did our team [3:45:45] set out to my team for finding [3:45:45] one of the whys. [3:45:49] One of the whys is making sure [3:45:50] that our departments are [3:45:50] actually reporting on when they [3:45:51] make their request. [3:45:55] What is a structurally excluded [3:45:55] community as it pertains to [3:45:56] the request? [3:46:00] So we saw a number of requests [3:46:01] that actually had like blank. [3:46:04] So we couldn't really ascertain [3:46:05] that number could go up or [3:46:05] down. [3:46:06] So one of the operational [3:46:09] implications is make sure that [3:46:10] you record in your data [3:46:10] correctly so we can make sure [3:46:11] we can get an accurate [3:46:14] percentage of the project that [3:46:15] are being funded in say [3:46:15] communities. [3:46:19] >> The other way I would say we [3:46:23] have talked about the emergency [3:46:23] need for funding. [3:46:24] So that's a part of it as well [3:46:25] And I know that the team is [3:46:28] looking at ways to actually [3:46:28] allocate more funds to address [3:46:29] ongoing emergencies. [3:46:33] And so we're allocating $30 [3:46:34] million planned fully then we [3:46:35] still should be thinking about [3:46:38] what is the target. [3:46:39] So in the policy we didn't set [3:46:39] a target. [3:46:43] Our percentage for what [3:46:44] percentage of our cip funds [3:46:47] should go in structurally [3:46:48] excluded communities So there [3:46:49] is no clear target. [3:46:52] So it's hard to track around [3:46:53] where did you go versus what [3:46:54] you're allocating. [3:46:54] And so I want to make those [3:46:58] comments purposely so that way [3:46:58] you look at the fiscal [3:47:03] allocation for emergencies you [3:47:03] got to balance the fact that we [3:47:04] don't have a clear goal or [3:47:05] target for the percentage of [3:47:08] projects that we should fund [3:47:09] instructs the excluded [3:47:09] communities. [3:47:13] That was not the policy goal. [3:47:13] The policy goal was to set [3:47:14] the scoring. [3:47:17] That's why I gave you [3:47:18] the numbers because you do [3:47:18] still see a clear difference. [3:47:22] And so if you see a clear [3:47:22] difference of 23% from my [3:47:26] equity perspective it causes me [3:47:26] to ask what should be [3:47:27] the target. [3:47:28] Although we are still budgeting [3:47:31] for emergencies that's a [3:47:31] question that we like to leave [3:47:32] in this space for that [3:47:35] conversation. [3:47:36] I'm hoping that you are [3:47:40] tracking those numbers. [3:47:41] The other equity implications I [3:47:45] mentioned cleaning up the data [3:47:45] in terms of how our departments [3:47:46] report when they are requesting [3:47:50] a project and the identifying [3:47:50] when it's in a structurally [3:47:54] excluded community that impacts [3:47:55] our data processes. [3:47:59] The third that we found is a [3:48:00] alignment with the five year [3:48:04] outlook and a five year capital [3:48:04] infrastructure planning [3:48:05] outlook. [3:48:09] So effectively with aligning [3:48:10] and having a nexus if we were [3:48:14] to fund a study for our levees [3:48:14] for example, you would see that [3:48:18] funded for perhaps in our five [3:48:19] year outlook but the work [3:48:19] wouldn't happen until you look [3:48:23] at to your plan and get look [3:48:24] maybe year 3 or 4. [3:48:24] So our team made [3:48:28] the observation where you want [3:48:28] to be planful at looking when [3:48:29] things are funded and then be [3:48:33] strategic around when you're [3:48:33] planning to work. [3:48:34] This shows up in your planning [3:48:34] outlook. [3:48:35] And so as we're looking at that [3:48:38] we want to have a nexus between [3:48:39] the two because in one year you [3:48:42] MAY see an uptake in projects [3:48:43] based on what was allocated for [3:48:43] in the five year financial [3:48:48] outlook. [3:48:49] And so we noted that there [3:48:49] might need to be a clear nexus [3:48:52] as you're reporting on that to [3:48:53] kind of look at why you have [3:48:54] more projects in one year [3:48:56] the five year outlook like your [3:48:57] five versus year one. [3:49:00] And so the nexus for the two we [3:49:01] noticed a gap in the way that [3:49:01] those two things are aligned. [3:49:05] And so our recommendation was [3:49:06] to look at the way in which [3:49:06] those things communicate with [3:49:10] each other within the five year [3:49:10] sequence. [3:49:15] Those items conclude my [3:49:15] comments around applying [3:49:16] the equity lens to operations [3:49:20] but more pointedly applying an [3:49:21] equity lens to the percentage [3:49:21] of projects that were funded. [3:49:24] Thank you. [3:49:25] >> All right. [3:49:30] Thank you for the robust [3:49:31] presentations by acp and [3:49:32] the Good work Department of [3:49:35] Finance with contribution and [3:49:35] of course the contribution of [3:49:36] the office of the ipa Clerk [3:49:37] Please proceed with public [3:49:40] comment. [3:49:41] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT. [3:49:42] If I can have Blair Beckman [3:49:43] come up to the microphone and [3:49:46] Courtney Brown if you can come [3:49:46] up to the other reserved seats [3:49:47] at the front. [3:49:53] Larry you'll have you'll have [3:50:00] two minutes less. [3:50:04] Blair Beckman Um, thank you for [3:50:04] this item. [3:50:08] Good reporting. [3:50:09] Good information. [3:50:09] Thank you. [3:50:10] This is the third or fourth [3:50:14] time this item has been here in [3:50:15] the past three, 4 or 5 months [3:50:15] now. [3:50:15] Thank you. [3:50:16] I mean, we're really trying to [3:50:19] work on it. [3:50:20] I'm trying to better understand [3:50:21] it. [3:50:21] Thank you. [3:50:24] Really nice. [3:50:25] Last public or less [3:50:29] informational item talking [3:50:30] about equity that is not only [3:50:34] serving new equity goals but in [3:50:35] its goals can actually be [3:50:35] serving best practices of [3:50:39] the city and how we can space [3:50:40] out our projects better [3:50:40] overall. [3:50:45] It was really nice to hear. [3:50:45] Thank you. [3:50:49] Good luck in these efforts. [3:50:50] The work I do with tech [3:50:54] accountability. [3:50:55] Some issues where we're talking [3:51:00] about um I think having a good [3:51:01] procurement process with tech [3:51:05] making it clear what what our [3:51:05] capabilities are and what we [3:51:06] want to practice as a community [3:51:10] about open public policies and [3:51:11] sharing of information and [3:51:16] ideas. [3:51:16] Making that clear in [3:51:17] the procurement process for [3:51:17] these upcoming projects. [3:51:20] It's set out important goals [3:51:21] and standards of what people [3:51:25] can expect from San Diego and [3:51:26] that we do this well. [3:51:27] People will want to come here. [3:51:27] A certain group of people want [3:51:31] to come here to better address, [3:51:32] you know, practices of good [3:51:36] reasoning and open democracy [3:51:41] and peace instead of war And [3:51:41] all of its misery. [3:51:47] And I think if we promote that [3:51:48] it share something important [3:51:48] what our future is wanting to [3:51:52] be about Good luck How a good [3:51:57] communication between a and how [3:51:57] we talk about good [3:51:58] communication skills between an [3:52:00] openness Thank you. [3:52:01] Thank you Courtney if you can [3:52:06] please come forward. [3:52:06] Good afternoon. [3:52:07] Thank you. [3:52:07] Hi. [3:52:08] My name is Courtney Brown. [3:52:11] I'm a staff attorney for San [3:52:12] Diego Coast Keeper and I'm here [3:52:13] today to echo a message that [3:52:16] you should be used to hearing [3:52:17] from Coast Keeper which is [3:52:18] the urgent need for dedicated [3:52:22] stormwater infrastructure [3:52:23] funding. [3:52:23] As we just heard throughout [3:52:27] the Abbott presentation and in [3:52:28] the report stormwater dominated [3:52:29] the city's capital funding gap. [3:52:32] And without belaboring points [3:52:33] that you already know the gap [3:52:34] between funding needs and [3:52:34] available and availability [3:52:38] stretches exponentially every [3:52:38] year. [3:52:39] And while this disparity is [3:52:43] compounded by climate change [3:52:44] and factors that are not within [3:52:45] our control, what we can't [3:52:46] control is how we respond to it [3:52:50] and you know it's the direct [3:52:51] result of funding cuts, lack of [3:52:51] investment and inefficient [3:52:55] emergency spending Something I [3:52:56] read in the report and ideas [3:53:00] report is that emergency [3:53:00] stormwater spending has surged [3:53:04] from $8.9 million in fiscal [3:53:05] year 2021 to $93.6 million in [3:53:09] fiscal year 2025. [3:53:10] That's nearly $200 million in [3:53:10] five years spent reactively [3:53:15] premium costs on in-kind [3:53:15] repairs that often need to be [3:53:16] redone. [3:53:19] The longer we defer action [3:53:20] the worse it gets and you all [3:53:20] know that. [3:53:21] So I really just want to [3:53:22] emphasize three points. [3:53:25] And that's one we strongly [3:53:25] support The aba's [3:53:26] recommendation to focus on new [3:53:29] revenue streams for stormwater [3:53:30] . [3:53:30] Two we absolutely cannot cut [3:53:31] anymore from the stormwater [3:53:31] budget. [3:53:36] Doing so would be a recipe for [3:53:37] catastrophic disaster. [3:53:40] And three if anything we really [3:53:41] urge Council to increase [3:53:42] funding for public education [3:53:42] surrounding this extremely [3:53:43] pressing issue. [3:53:46] The public needs to understand [3:53:47] how dire the situation is. [3:53:47] Our aging infrastructure is at [3:53:52] a tipping point that demand [3:53:52] urgent action. [3:53:53] Coast Keeper will continue [3:53:54] doing everything we can to work [3:53:54] on this issue and we'd be happy [3:53:58] to set up meetings to discuss [3:53:58] how we can work together in [3:53:59] the future. [3:53:59] Thanks for the opportunity. [3:54:03] You have for the five minute [3:54:04] time we're going to those [3:54:04] participating remotely. [3:54:05] We have four people in [3:54:05] the queue. [3:54:06] John Stump If you can please [3:54:06] unmute. [3:54:07] >> You'll have two minutes to [3:54:12] proceed. [3:54:12] Hi. [3:54:19] First of all very good that we [3:54:19] saw MS.. [3:54:19] Desmond there. [3:54:20] Thank you, MS. Desmond. [3:54:20] Okay. [3:54:24] There are a couple of things [3:54:24] that are missing in the report [3:54:29] or brought up questions we [3:54:30] didn't talk about the use of [3:54:31] the new Bell Hall parking fund. [3:54:36] We didn't talk about [3:54:36] the coordination with sd g and [3:54:40] e and really important is what [3:54:41] should be driving this And it [3:54:42] relates to MS. Desmond is [3:54:46] claims where has [3:54:47] the infrastructure created [3:54:53] liability and human claims. [3:54:53] And that's you know I'm only [3:54:57] thinking about flooding but [3:54:58] there's also accidents. [3:54:58] So that should be the next [3:55:03] thing. [3:55:04] >> Can you can you hear me? [3:55:04] Yes. [3:55:08] Please proceed. [3:55:09] >> Okay. [3:55:09] The next thing is stormwater. [3:55:14] It's not an imposition. [3:55:15] It is a result of development [3:55:21] and urban and zation costs. [3:55:22] You don't really need a [3:55:26] stormwater program unless [3:55:27] you've done development where [3:55:28] you've created a place where [3:55:32] runoff is forced off [3:55:33] the property. [3:55:38] >> The zoo is a prime example [3:55:38] of that. [3:55:39] There's also a mistake in [3:55:39] the description. [3:55:44] It's not the police firing [3:55:44] range. [3:55:45] It's the City Gun and Pistol [3:55:45] Club. [3:55:50] So maybe correct that. [3:55:55] Finally the listing of projects [3:55:56] is kind of an engineer's [3:55:56] approach. [3:55:57] The right approach would be [3:56:01] Maslow's hierarchy of needs [3:56:02] where you're talking about [3:56:07] housing and physical needs of [3:56:08] people food, air, water. [3:56:13] And then you're talking about [3:56:13] safety needs. [3:56:14] And finally you get to these [3:56:14] development needs. [3:56:20] Maslow's hierarchy of Needs [3:56:20] Thank you. [3:56:21] >> After the 8700 than [3:56:34] the original 8700 please unmute [3:56:34] . [3:56:35] Thank you. [3:56:36] Joining me at a seed tree. [3:56:39] Thank you to both. [3:56:40] The first two presentations [3:56:45] were excellent Director Desmond [3:56:46] I want to tell you I love [3:56:52] the contextual focus and I love [3:56:52] the Nexus Focus. [3:56:57] I'm thrilled to tell you I'm [3:56:58] able to follow your reporting [3:57:04] because it's imperative [3:57:05] physically that in a way it is [3:57:06] and it's kind of a new language [3:57:06] for me. [3:57:10] But I think you it's it's [3:57:10] doable and I really appreciate [3:57:11] that. [3:57:11] So just one thing on [3:57:15] the reporting the basics of [3:57:22] mitigation, mitigating risk [3:57:22] prevention, ladies maintenance [3:57:23] is my favorite preventive [3:57:23] maintenance. [3:57:28] I want you to my own outlook [3:57:28] involving only one area So take [3:57:33] a deep breath right now. [3:57:34] I am not asking for any money [3:57:39] which will increase the gap. [3:57:40] This is just a whisper a [3:57:40] whisper. [3:57:45] Planning And it's this point of [3:57:51] time infrastructure cloud based [3:57:51] Systems Act as a modern digital [3:57:52] infrastructure in a city [3:57:58] functioning as the backbone for [3:57:59] smart city initiatives, data [3:57:59] storage and public service [3:58:04] management That's an end of [3:58:05] quote. [3:58:05] Can you imagine bodies without [3:58:09] a backbone starting in 2030? [3:58:10] I will flip the switch for our [3:58:15] New York City cloud based [3:58:15] system infrastructure. [3:58:16] It's equal to the importance of [3:58:21] water sewage and transportation [3:58:21] and so forth. [3:58:22] So I'm just putting a whisper [3:58:28] in your ear that we need to [3:58:28] start with a policy and we need [3:58:35] to start planning for a more [3:58:36] outlook and we have to wait to [3:58:36] the next one. [3:58:38] But I'm just going to use your [3:58:39] time has confused my apologies [3:58:39] the original and then Hector [3:58:44] talk about a racket. [3:58:45] I mean this just shows [3:58:45] the gross willful negligence [3:58:50] and gross malfeasance that is [3:58:50] taking place in the city. [3:58:51] You guys have billions of [3:58:56] dollars at your disposal to do [3:58:57] the things that you're supposed [3:59:03] to do and you neglect to do it [3:59:03] . [3:59:04] As we can see that there's [3:59:05] declining in the storm water [3:59:05] infrastructure. [3:59:09] It's passed its life and this [3:59:10] has been going on for a very [3:59:11] long time. [3:59:11] This is like a decades long [3:59:15] issue just like the Tijuana [3:59:16] River Valley where you guys are [3:59:17] taking money from here and [3:59:17] putting it over there and [3:59:21] you're not doing what needs to [3:59:22] be done and yet you want more [3:59:23] money from the people. [3:59:23] You're supposed to be good [3:59:27] stewards of our money and [3:59:28] you're not. [3:59:29] And this just shows that when [3:59:29] you've already had billions at [3:59:33] your disposal and look at [3:59:34] the state of the city, it's in [3:59:34] disarray. [3:59:35] It is not looking good Even [3:59:36] though you guys try and paint a [3:59:40] picture as though that's [3:59:41] the case and you take our money [3:59:42] and you don't do what you're [3:59:43] supposed to do, then you want [3:59:46] to come after us and say we [3:59:47] need more money for you to keep [3:59:47] up with what we were supposed [3:59:48] to be doing. [3:59:51] You guys are getting ahead of [3:59:51] yourself. [3:59:52] You need to be finishing what [3:59:53] you've started instead of [3:59:57] having all these emergencies [3:59:58] that come into place because [3:59:59] you are neglecting what you're [3:59:59] supposed to be doing. [4:00:04] I mean how much money more [4:00:04] money do you guys need and [4:00:10] promises Are you going to make [4:00:10] when I mean I'm terrified to [4:00:11] think about these billions of [4:00:12] dollars that's going to be out [4:00:15] Your guys is disposable when [4:00:16] you see the world around us is [4:00:17] it's crumbling and there are [4:00:21] people suffering because of [4:00:21] the choices that you guys have [4:00:22] made. [4:00:22] So before you start any new [4:00:27] projects you need to complete [4:00:28] the projects that you already [4:00:28] started and not take money from [4:00:29] here and over there and [4:00:33] contract with people that are [4:00:34] also wasting our money like [4:00:34] Dreams for Change in downtown [4:00:39] partnership and doing things [4:00:39] like having people die on their [4:00:40] watch and being raped and [4:00:41] trying to hide it. [4:00:45] So you guys need to course [4:00:46] correct because this just shows [4:00:46] how negligent you took Your [4:00:47] time has concluded. [4:00:51] Hector, if you can please [4:00:52] unmute your final speaker. [4:00:52] The five minute timer has [4:00:57] concluded Please proceed. [4:00:57] >> Thanks for taking my call. [4:00:58] This is like capital [4:01:03] infrastructure planning outlook [4:01:03] in the famous words of Mike [4:01:04] Tyson. [4:01:04] Everyone has a plan until they [4:01:09] get hit in the face. [4:01:10] The dam is condemned by [4:01:10] the state. [4:01:11] They said it's gonna break in [4:01:11] moment. [4:01:15] So anybody go down stream from [4:01:16] the dam in Del Mar? [4:01:21] I hope they cancel their [4:01:22] homeowners insurance or update [4:01:22] I hope State Farm as my carrier [4:01:26] doesn't have any policies down [4:01:27] downstream from the dam and [4:01:27] take them out. [4:01:32] The recent fires that [4:01:33] Democratic leadership has [4:01:33] brought us here, the fires in [4:01:39] the Democratic leadership. [4:01:39] No water in the reservoir [4:01:40] the thing that didn't even work [4:01:45] And then we had a state farm [4:01:46] had all those claims and it's a [4:01:46] total nightmare. [4:01:50] So hopefully State Farm will [4:01:51] wake up and insurance company [4:01:56] will not insure houses down [4:01:57] stream from that dam When it [4:01:58] rains it's going to be a total [4:01:58] disaster city. [4:02:02] You're going to get sued [4:02:03] because now you know, it's [4:02:08] condemned basically from state [4:02:08] . [4:02:09] So what can you do? [4:02:10] Yeah, I don't know what you can [4:02:11] do but it's a total liability [4:02:14] Now the warrant So if you [4:02:15] proceed without fixing it it's [4:02:16] it's everyone's you know [4:02:21] the money's there But anyway I [4:02:22] say divert the Do you want a [4:02:22] sewer line back into town? [4:02:26] You want about 45,000 yards [4:02:32] past border Just convert it [4:02:33] back into Mexico let those guys [4:02:34] figure it out put up an earthen [4:02:37] dam or do you want a sewage [4:02:38] line back into them and then [4:02:39] park the actual space in [4:02:43] Imperial Beach and get rid of [4:02:44] all that toxic sand that's in [4:02:44] there? [4:02:49] You can use that same to build [4:02:50] a dam in Del Mar and save some [4:02:50] money. [4:02:50] Anyway, good luck. [4:02:57] Here we go again. [4:02:58] >> Thanks for your time Creator [4:02:59] Henry Lee It already noted that [4:03:04] the biometric included other [4:03:04] speakers will be taken They [4:03:05] think elsewhere that it could [4:03:05] be common. [4:03:07] Thank you for the clerk Again [4:03:07] this is an information item No [4:03:08] motion is required. [4:03:09] I'll turn over to my colleagues [4:03:12] for any questions and comments [4:03:13] and we'll start with the Chair [4:03:13] of the Active Transportation [4:03:14] and Infrastructure Committee [4:03:18] Council member Whitman. [4:03:19] Thank you very much. [4:03:20] Council PRESIDENT Thank you to [4:03:25] the staff team, to the eBay to [4:03:26] this Desmond Desmond I wanted [4:03:31] to follow up on a point that [4:03:31] you were emphasizing which was [4:03:36] that 23% of the funded projects [4:03:42] are in structurally excluded [4:03:43] communities and you wanted to [4:03:43] make sure that we understood [4:03:48] that and recognize [4:03:49] the significance of that. [4:03:50] But I want to be sure I do [4:03:51] understand exactly what that [4:03:54] means. [4:03:55] So first of all, I guess my [4:04:00] first question is you know what [4:04:00] how are you defining a [4:04:06] structurally excluded community [4:04:06] ? [4:04:07] Is that a term that I [4:04:08] personally have used a lot by [4:04:08] understand because it could [4:04:12] include within could be [4:04:12] considered a structurally [4:04:13] excluded community. [4:04:13] But I think what you're [4:04:14] referring to is something that [4:04:18] has more of a geographically [4:04:19] identifiable component to it [4:04:20] And you could you could tell [4:04:23] you otherwise. [4:04:24] And then so that we could put [4:04:25] the 23% in context What [4:04:30] percentage of the city is in a [4:04:31] structure, what percent of [4:04:35] the city is located in [4:04:36] structurally excluded [4:04:36] communities? [4:04:37] >> Great question. [4:04:42] I'll answer that in two ways. [4:04:43] One, when I came to San Diego [4:04:47] there were several definitions [4:04:48] for the way that we talk about [4:04:48] a geographic area that have [4:04:54] different factors. [4:04:55] And so one way is we call them [4:04:55] climate equity index zones in [4:05:00] overlays is in terms of promise [4:05:01] zones essentially as the same [4:05:01] areas with different terms. [4:05:06] And so when we revise a policy [4:05:07] we made it structurally [4:05:07] excluded to stop blaming [4:05:12] the people who live in [4:05:12] the neighborhood for the issues [4:05:13] their deficit in their [4:05:13] neighborhood. [4:05:17] The second part of your [4:05:17] question is this team as a [4:05:23] follow up could do with overlay [4:05:23] around because we do have [4:05:24] projects by council district to [4:05:28] show a geographic overlay [4:05:29] mapping those projects. [4:05:30] So we did let for our analysis [4:05:35] of the equity lands. [4:05:36] So to your question around [4:05:37] where they located that it's in [4:05:37] the promise zone climate equity [4:05:42] zone areas. [4:05:43] >> So if you don't use actually [4:05:43] excluded that's okay. [4:05:44] The problem is on areas That's [4:05:44] very helpful. [4:05:47] Thank you. [4:05:47] Thank you. [4:05:48] Council PRESIDENT. [4:05:48] All right. [4:05:49] Thank you Council member [4:05:49] Whitburn. [4:05:50] We'll go next to council member [4:05:53] Eli Rivera. [4:05:54] PRESIDENT, thanks for [4:05:55] the presentation here. [4:05:59] Thank you to the idea for your [4:06:00] work and thank you as always [4:06:00] for what you provided as well. [4:06:03] This is always a very important [4:06:10] conversation And the numbers [4:06:10] you know they were startling [4:06:15] Our first year on council and [4:06:16] they only get more startling [4:06:21] each year And those numbers, [4:06:22] you know, represent like real [4:06:26] tangible impacts on communities [4:06:27] sidewalks that grandmothers in [4:06:32] my district, you know, struggle [4:06:33] to navigate um, homes that are [4:06:38] at risk from from flooding [4:06:39] during not even catastrophic [4:06:39] rain events but basic rain [4:06:45] events and you know our beaches [4:06:46] and bays being too dirty This [4:06:47] woman go on and on and [4:06:51] the impacts are real And I have [4:06:51] real concerns that the gaps [4:06:52] aren't distributed equally And [4:06:56] I appreciate Kim pointing out [4:07:03] what she did. [4:07:04] The Climate Equity Fund exists [4:07:04] because we acknowledge that we [4:07:08] have equity in the city so I am [4:07:09] curious if you can pinpoint [4:07:14] kind of show us how [4:07:15] the projects in the outlook are [4:07:15] sequenced to address [4:07:19] the communities with [4:07:19] the largest deficits first and [4:07:20] if there are any accountability [4:07:21] mechanisms in place to ensure [4:07:25] that actually happens rather [4:07:26] than simply defaulting to [4:07:27] what's easiest or what feels [4:07:32] politically acceptable in [4:07:32] the moment. [4:07:33] >> Great nuance question and [4:07:39] I'll call and run and care [4:07:40] until answer Being there [4:07:41] originally was written into [4:07:41] the resolution for the Climate [4:07:44] Equity Fund. [4:07:44] I can't say the allocation of [4:07:45] that. [4:07:46] It was not a 1 to 1 in terms of [4:07:48] the way we do projects. [4:07:49] So I know that just from being [4:07:50] a part of the process to [4:07:51] identify projects So I do [4:07:55] appreciate the nuance around [4:07:55] that fund being used in those [4:07:56] particular areas. [4:07:56] So perhaps a follow up but I [4:08:00] don't know if you've got Yeah, [4:08:01] I mean Karen, you can first [4:08:06] walk them through the data [4:08:07] points that considered in [4:08:08] compiling the report and then i [4:08:12] can put some much light on [4:08:13] the Dash 14 and how it's [4:08:13] implemented. [4:08:18] I do think that when one thing [4:08:18] that I want to point out before [4:08:19] I dive into all the details is [4:08:24] this is designed to be a high [4:08:25] level programmatic really [4:08:29] forward looking report. [4:08:30] Councilmember I think I think [4:08:31] the one true mechanism that we [4:08:35] have to make sure that people [4:08:36] stay on point that dollars are [4:08:40] allocated that we're going to [4:08:41] the highest neighborhoods first [4:08:41] is the budget development [4:08:42] process, the actual budget [4:08:46] development and adoption [4:08:47] process. [4:08:47] As part of this effort we [4:08:53] collect the information for for [4:08:53] structurally excluded [4:08:54] communities. [4:08:57] We looked first at really [4:08:58] funding those things that were [4:08:58] already in the pipeline. [4:08:59] We wanted to finish those [4:09:03] things. [4:09:04] If there were projects that [4:09:05] were in construction that had [4:09:06] new needs pop up finishing [4:09:09] those fully funding [4:09:10] construction for projects that [4:09:10] were in design all of those [4:09:15] things happen and they're kind [4:09:16] of they're not competing but [4:09:17] they are definitely overlapping [4:09:21] and corresponding interest in [4:09:21] that. [4:09:22] We are looking both at [4:09:22] the stage of the project [4:09:27] the available funding sources [4:09:28] where we might have community [4:09:29] only or park funds that are you [4:09:33] know specific to communities of [4:09:33] concern or not that we are [4:09:39] allocating those restricted [4:09:40] funding sources really getting [4:09:40] the most that we can we out out [4:09:44] of those restricted funding [4:09:45] sources we do take into account [4:09:51] the 814 scores as well as [4:09:51] the location of the project and [4:09:57] where it is in the project [4:09:58] delivery pipeline. [4:09:58] I hope that helps. [4:10:02] Just to shed more light on this [4:10:03] one again this is a five year [4:10:03] outlook. [4:10:04] We're looking into the future. [4:10:08] I think the main drivers of [4:10:08] the data collected is the asset [4:10:09] management information and [4:10:13] understanding what it's feeling [4:10:14] and what needs attention [4:10:19] globally across the entire city [4:10:20] . [4:10:21] And then after that as we take [4:10:21] a closer look to the f y 27 [4:10:26] budget, this is where we trying [4:10:26] to ensure that there is a [4:10:27] priority score assigned to each [4:10:32] project where in 814 we work [4:10:33] collectively with Council on [4:10:33] adopting this new policy we [4:10:39] ensure that to a point [4:10:39] councilmember that equable [4:10:40] outcome is coming from [4:10:44] sustainability standpoint from [4:10:44] a safety standpoint all those [4:10:45] different factors are being [4:10:50] accounted for as we score every [4:10:51] project and then then we try to [4:10:52] recommend a project with [4:10:55] the higher score to be funded [4:10:55] first. [4:11:01] Okay we've limited time but I [4:11:01] do think it's another context [4:11:07] as well where we're being [4:11:08] aspirational versus where we're [4:11:08] actually setting standards in [4:11:09] the city And this feels like an [4:11:10] important area to set standards [4:11:13] and I appreciate that We don't [4:11:14] want to call it competing but [4:11:14] it is competing so long as we [4:11:19] continue to allow ourselves to [4:11:19] live in a place of scarcity [4:11:20] rather than the abundance that [4:11:21] we should be able to exist [4:11:25] within here in San Diego. [4:11:26] But in a in a world where we're [4:11:26] living with scarcity of [4:11:31] resources that ends up becoming [4:11:31] competing or we can use all [4:11:37] sorts different words to [4:11:38] describe it but we're not doing [4:11:38] at all. [4:11:39] And so I understand that [4:11:43] there's a system in place for [4:11:44] making decisions But I will [4:11:44] also say that the budget for [4:11:50] the building process I'll be [4:11:50] honest saying that that's [4:11:51] the time for us to fix and [4:11:55] reprioritize that I don't think [4:11:56] that puts us in a really tough [4:11:57] spot by the time we're at that [4:12:01] point in the process. [4:12:02] I don't think it's realistic [4:12:02] for us to reorder the entire [4:12:07] list that's been provided to us [4:12:08] and I know that we would be [4:12:09] given enormous, enormous [4:12:09] pushback if we if we try to do [4:12:13] that if what we were presented [4:12:14] with the proposed budget [4:12:15] the council said this is not [4:12:15] hit the mark when it comes to [4:12:18] equity and we would order it [4:12:19] entirely it would blow up [4:12:20] the budget process And so it [4:12:24] needs to be better baked by [4:12:25] the time it gets to us from an [4:12:25] equity standpoint. [4:12:31] So that instead we've got real [4:12:31] funding gaps. [4:12:37] I do want to talk about how we [4:12:38] spend and we've talked about [4:12:38] this before there was mention [4:12:39] that bundling bike lane [4:12:39] installations with street [4:12:41] repaving and utility work has [4:12:42] helped in terms of being more [4:12:47] cost effective. [4:12:48] So my understanding is that [4:12:48] when we use standardized [4:12:54] designs and bundle repetitive [4:12:54] work we stop treating every [4:13:00] single curb ramp installation [4:13:01] like a unique engineering [4:13:01] challenge. [4:13:02] We can actually bring down [4:13:02] costs, accelerate delivery. [4:13:03] It doesn't seem like we're [4:13:07] doing that across the system [4:13:07] though. [4:13:08] You know the thousands of [4:13:09] street lights that we need to [4:13:15] install that feels like an area [4:13:16] where we could be standardizing [4:13:17] and pre engineering solutions. [4:13:21] So can you talk to us about [4:13:22] the extent to which we are [4:13:23] doing more of standardizing [4:13:28] design vouching procurement and [4:13:28] in order to reduce this off [4:13:29] cost? [4:13:29] Yeah. [4:13:33] I mean one of the policy I can [4:13:33] think of that we were trying to [4:13:34] implement as we initiated [4:13:35] project is complete street and [4:13:38] in exactly to your point [4:13:39] council member we were trying [4:13:40] to identify all the different [4:13:44] assets within this corridor [4:13:45] that we need to be addressed at [4:13:46] the challenge as the different [4:13:51] state that each asset within [4:13:51] this corridor is and and [4:13:57] available funding So if we want [4:13:58] to go and treat the lighting [4:13:58] the sidewalk, the programs, [4:14:03] the paving right that that [4:14:04] present additional cost where [4:14:05] the priority could be mainly in [4:14:09] this in the street light So [4:14:10] we're trying to balance [4:14:10] the available funding with all [4:14:14] the conditions of the existing [4:14:15] assets within that corridor and [4:14:16] trying to bundle as much as we [4:14:20] could that making sense to [4:14:21] advance it all together as one [4:14:22] project And some of that work [4:14:26] is identified to be done by [4:14:27] city forces while other other [4:14:32] areas require further design [4:14:33] and been executed through an [4:14:34] outside contractor. [4:14:38] So we're trying to at [4:14:39] the beginning with the project [4:14:43] we are trying to implement all [4:14:44] of those policies that [4:14:45] facilitate the opportunity to [4:14:49] be more efficient in delivering [4:14:50] major assets. [4:14:56] >> I just for me it's not just [4:14:57] the major assets. [4:14:57] It's like in fact it might even [4:14:58] be more important unlike [4:15:02] the medium and smaller scale [4:15:03] ones to make sure that we're [4:15:03] being more efficient there. [4:15:08] I just want to make that point [4:15:09] so and I'll just ask for [4:15:10] the next three minutes now if I [4:15:10] MAY. [4:15:13] Council PRESIDENT Yeah, that [4:15:14] this the structural issue in [4:15:14] front of us in terms of [4:15:15] the budget we've talked about [4:15:19] this for years We were handed a [4:15:20] multibillion dollar deficit for [4:15:25] infrastructure That's a reality [4:15:31] and it is directly related to [4:15:32] the insufficient amount of [4:15:33] revenue that the city brings [4:15:33] in. [4:15:33] We were not resourced well [4:15:37] enough for easily 1.4 million [4:15:38] people that is sitting on [4:15:39] rotting infrastructure that was [4:15:40] allowed to erode over [4:15:46] generations. [4:15:48] So I do have a what is what is [4:15:53] the administration's or staff's [4:15:54] plan to start addressing that [4:15:59] part of the equation [4:15:59] the revenue side because [4:16:00] the council's come up with [4:16:04] ideas about measures. [4:16:05] I'm curious if [4:16:05] the administration's [4:16:10] considering anything We want to [4:16:16] take this one Councilmember I [4:16:22] think we've always tried to [4:16:23] explore additional revenue [4:16:24] options to make sure that we [4:16:28] are at structural balance so we [4:16:29] can continue the long term [4:16:30] investment and planning to be [4:16:33] able to deliver on these [4:16:34] significant ip backlog. [4:16:35] I don't think any option is off [4:16:35] the table and we will continue [4:16:40] to work on towards whatever [4:16:41] options we have to be able to [4:16:42] make sure that we are in [4:16:42] structural balance. [4:16:46] The city is well resources well [4:16:47] resourced to meet our growing [4:16:52] backlog. [4:16:52] Okay. [4:16:53] I think they'll want to [4:16:53] continue that conversation. [4:16:58] We've talked a couple of times [4:16:59] I brought this up and we [4:17:00] haven't really drilled down too [4:17:00] much and I'm not an expert in [4:17:04] this and I will acknowledge [4:17:04] that But that's why we have [4:17:05] the smart folks on that side of [4:17:10] the dais environmental impact [4:17:11] bonds, as I understand it, have [4:17:12] been used in on the East Coast, [4:17:13] the Chesapeake Bay in [4:17:16] particular to successfully [4:17:17] improve green stormwater [4:17:17] infrastructure. [4:17:22] I believe other cities have [4:17:23] followed their path Private [4:17:24] investors fund infrastructure [4:17:24] up front. [4:17:25] The city repays based on [4:17:28] measurable outcomes actual [4:17:29] flood reduction, actual water [4:17:30] quality improvement, the risk [4:17:34] transfer that is real. [4:17:35] It provides access to private [4:17:35] capital. [4:17:39] We have a we have $5 billion in [4:17:40] stormwater needs depleting [4:17:45] federal loan and active [4:17:46] political effort to further [4:17:51] blow holes in our budget. [4:17:52] Is there been any exploration [4:17:52] of environmental impact bonds [4:17:53] for stormwater infrastructure [4:17:57] or other sort of creative [4:17:57] financing mechanisms? [4:18:03] All I can say that the director [4:18:04] of Stormwater Todd Snyder's [4:18:04] been exploring all possible [4:18:05] options to really address this [4:18:10] major deficit in [4:18:10] infrastructure. [4:18:11] So I'm not sure if you're here [4:18:15] in the audience Yes, thanks [4:18:15] Councilmember. [4:18:16] I can tell you very familiar [4:18:21] with those programs from my [4:18:22] general experience in [4:18:23] the stormwater field I think [4:18:27] the fundamental need to make [4:18:28] that type of environmental bond [4:18:32] program work is you need to [4:18:33] revenue in the assurance to be [4:18:34] able to pay the private sector [4:18:34] back to deliver those outcomes [4:18:39] And that's where we struggle is [4:18:40] we're relying on general fund [4:18:41] primarily So without a [4:18:44] dedicated revenue source got a [4:18:45] fee bringing in consistent [4:18:46] revenue it's really hard to get [4:18:46] a program like that off [4:18:51] the ground because you need to [4:18:52] have a payback mechanism And if [4:18:52] the payback mechanism is [4:18:56] general fund competing with [4:18:57] police, fire libraries, parks [4:18:58] you know you've got to you've [4:18:58] got to basically earmark [4:19:02] the funding for stormwater. [4:19:03] >> Yeah, but types of projects [4:19:09] that we need to fund Yes. [4:19:09] Scale of the projects we need [4:19:10] to fund all work. [4:19:10] Yes, absolutely. [4:19:14] Green infrastructure, flood [4:19:15] resilience that type of work is [4:19:15] being delivered in [4:19:16] the Chesapeake Bay example that [4:19:20] you brought up. [4:19:21] So with dedicated revenue is [4:19:22] that a method financing [4:19:26] mechanism that you think would [4:19:27] be appropriate and you want to. [4:19:28] >> I do I think I think it's it [4:19:29] helps to get to the type of [4:19:32] scale that we were talking [4:19:33] about in terms of our need. [4:19:34] It allows you to bundle [4:19:34] projects particularly on [4:19:38] the water quality side. [4:19:39] It opens up the potential to do [4:19:39] water quality improvements on [4:19:44] private parcels and in addition [4:19:44] to just public parcels that we [4:19:45] have land ownership of. [4:19:46] So I think there's a lot of [4:19:51] advantages to it. [4:19:52] It's just a real long term [4:19:52] financial commitment that's [4:19:53] tough to make when you're [4:19:54] reliant on the general fund [4:19:57] That's that short compared to [4:19:58] the total needs of the city I [4:20:02] think so I well I mean thank [4:20:03] you for that. [4:20:09] I appreciate the work that [4:20:09] you've done And I we've been [4:20:10] talking about it since we got [4:20:10] here. [4:20:15] We need dedicated revenue. [4:20:15] We appreciate that. [4:20:16] Coast Skipper continues to [4:20:20] remind us of that. [4:20:20] We are behind the way we're [4:20:26] behind because of [4:20:27] the structural budget deficit [4:20:27] that we've experienced for [4:20:28] decades now and [4:20:32] the under-resourcing of [4:20:32] the city In this moment we're [4:20:33] staring at the deficit that we [4:20:37] just looked at the gap that we [4:20:38] have We have the leaking club [4:20:44] the former mayor who left us [4:20:44] billions of dollars in in [4:20:50] broken infrastructure and [4:20:51] meadow lined outside groups [4:20:52] pursuing a ballot measure that [4:20:55] would defund $100 million in [4:20:55] core city services, $100 [4:20:56] million annually and course in [4:21:01] services which means that all [4:21:07] of this would get worse and i [4:21:08] mention that because this [4:21:08] conversation is not abstract [4:21:13] like this stuff is impacting [4:21:13] our neighborhoods. [4:21:14] We have people who are still [4:21:14] dealing with floods that [4:21:18] happened a couple of years ago [4:21:18] . [4:21:19] There are parts of the city [4:21:20] that have no sidewalks, unpaved [4:21:25] streets, unpaved alleys and we [4:21:31] are allowing hopefully we're [4:21:31] not going to allow this group [4:21:36] of radicals who broke the city [4:21:37] to try to light it on fire [4:21:42] through the political actions [4:21:43] that they're considering right [4:21:44] now that will not make the city [4:21:48] leaner. [4:21:49] It will make things much worse. [4:21:50] And so I just I felt [4:21:54] the necessity to say that [4:21:55] council PRESIDENT Because to be [4:21:56] staring at what we're staring [4:21:56] at already and know that there [4:22:01] are folks who are again [4:22:01] actively attempting to defund a [4:22:02] core city service is extremely [4:22:07] alarming to me because [4:22:07] the impacts will be felt by [4:22:08] less stormwater work being [4:22:09] done, fewer sidewalks being [4:22:13] repaired, fewer potholes being [4:22:13] built and that is not [4:22:14] the effort of anyone who's [4:22:19] serious about becoming a better [4:22:20] place to live or quite frankly [4:22:21] who cares at all that [4:22:25] the people of San Diego so I [4:22:25] thank you again for all of [4:22:26] the work that you have done. [4:22:31] We have a lot more work to do. [4:22:32] I do hope that we can build on [4:22:32] what Kim presented to us and [4:22:37] see more of a standardization [4:22:38] in terms of how we approach [4:22:39] the inequities in terms [4:22:39] infrastructure, investment, [4:22:40] the city. [4:22:41] But I do appreciate the effort [4:22:44] and taking the extra time. [4:22:45] Council PRESIDENT I give you [4:22:46] two of my two of my minutes So [4:22:48] Councilmember Foster Oh yes, [4:22:54] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And [4:22:55] thank you staff for [4:23:01] the presentation and thank you [4:23:01] to to my colleagues. [4:23:06] I think Councilmember Eli [4:23:12] Rivera touched on a lot And I [4:23:13] think I also appreciate [4:23:14] the question of Councilmember [4:23:18] Wimmer in regards to what is a [4:23:24] structurally excluded community [4:23:24] or the terms that we use. [4:23:30] For me I'll go back in time [4:23:35] with I want to say my education [4:23:36] and training. [4:23:36] I have always used the term [4:23:37] historically underserved [4:23:42] communities and I think that is [4:23:48] a term that is used in quite [4:23:49] honestly in my time stems from [4:23:54] the Federal terminology as we [4:23:59] deal with disparities and [4:24:00] things of the sort. [4:24:06] We also used at some point [4:24:06] the term of communities of [4:24:07] concern which I never really [4:24:11] cared for to be quite honest [4:24:12] And I do appreciate the work at [4:24:18] the time of our sustainability [4:24:19] director Cody Hoving that came [4:24:23] up with the Climate equity [4:24:24] Index which I think developed [4:24:29] from a state document that [4:24:30] really made it specific to [4:24:31] the city of San Diego and made [4:24:35] sure that we were including all [4:24:36] of the appropriate underserved [4:24:41] communities based on our data [4:24:42] versus leaving it to [4:24:47] the Federal legislators in [4:24:48] the in the state level because [4:24:54] I am the first to tell you that [4:24:54] the way they drew [4:24:55] the opportunities zones just [4:24:55] baffles me On how you draw a [4:24:59] line in the middle of [4:24:59] the street and I can take you [4:25:00] to the section that was left [4:25:01] out which is a black arts and [4:25:05] culture district that has not [4:25:06] seen any true redevelopment or [4:25:11] any attention since I was since [4:25:11] I was a baby. [4:25:16] To be quite honest. [4:25:17] But also I'm a little troubled [4:25:23] in regards to the reference of [4:25:23] the five year outlook. [4:25:28] I do agree that if we were to [4:25:29] come to council and try to [4:25:34] unwind the proposed cip, I [4:25:35] think that would be a [4:25:37] disservice to our process and [4:25:44] would create several [4:25:44] challenges. [4:25:45] I think it is not [4:25:49] the appropriate method that I [4:25:50] would recommend and quite [4:25:51] honestly look forward to [4:25:55] sitting on the dais and going [4:25:56] through that level of of of [4:26:01] information. [4:26:02] But I think if I recall [4:26:02] the five year outlook and I'm [4:26:07] going to refer to it as a [4:26:08] planning document it is to give [4:26:13] us the path and the vision to [4:26:13] move this ip forward. [4:26:18] And as you hear from our [4:26:19] Department of Race and Equity [4:26:24] that 23% of the projects are in [4:26:25] historically underserved [4:26:29] communities and 77% are in what [4:26:30] I will just say are high [4:26:36] The highest resource areas is [4:26:37] troubling to me If I am [4:26:42] interpreting quick points that [4:26:47] were made here today. [4:26:48] And so I think we have more [4:26:48] work to do. [4:26:49] I also think that I would agree [4:26:53] with with Kim that we need to [4:26:54] look at how we're presenting [4:27:00] this information so that we can [4:27:00] effectively and efficiently [4:27:05] receive the information, [4:27:06] analyzing information and not [4:27:11] only for council and our staffs [4:27:12] but also the public because I [4:27:17] will say that I am used to [4:27:17] the what I will call [4:27:18] the bureaucratic dump and where [4:27:24] you just unload information and [4:27:25] you just kind of look at [4:27:25] everything and say Catch me if [4:27:26] you can. [4:27:27] And I think we need to get out [4:27:39] of that Also I will say if I [4:27:39] can have just a few more [4:27:40] minutes as I look at [4:27:46] the council policies and I just [4:27:47] want to be clear because I have [4:27:47] since I have been on the dais [4:27:52] have have taken issue with our [4:27:53] processes and how we do things. [4:27:57] I do just want to make a [4:27:58] comment so that everyone knows [4:27:58] that I have reached out to [4:28:03] the city auditor and I have [4:28:04] asked the city auditor to add [4:28:09] to his audit potential audit [4:28:10] list for f y 27 as needed [4:28:15] contracts based on our recent [4:28:16] conversations that we have had [4:28:17] and have also asked the auditor [4:28:20] to add job order contracts [4:28:21] which are essentially similar [4:28:27] to methodology and most [4:28:28] importantly emergency contracts [4:28:33] because clearly we are changing [4:28:34] our method and process and [4:28:34] actually including a defined [4:28:40] allocation within our budget [4:28:41] process for emergency projects [4:28:41] And and I will continue to say [4:28:47] this those are done on a time [4:28:47] and material basis which means [4:28:52] we are paying a premium and we [4:28:52] essentially due to [4:28:58] the emergency way of just about [4:28:59] every program or certain [4:29:00] standards that we have as part [4:29:04] of our municipal code. [4:29:05] And that's very troubling for [4:29:05] me. [4:29:10] I'm also hearing that it seems [4:29:11] that the emergency contracts [4:29:11] are going above what [4:29:17] the initial emergency is and [4:29:18] that they are actually coming [4:29:18] out with phase funding which is [4:29:23] very problematic for me which [4:29:23] is why I made the request. [4:29:24] So I want to make sure everyone [4:29:29] knows that as I was sitting [4:29:30] here listening to [4:29:30] the presentation and [4:29:31] the questions I also sent to [4:29:35] the city auditory request to [4:29:40] add Council policy 800 [4:29:40] Dashboard team as now I think [4:29:41] we have based on [4:29:45] the information that was [4:29:46] provided I think we have three [4:29:47] years worth of implementation [4:29:51] and data so that we should have [4:29:52] a clear data set so that we can [4:29:53] see just how effective that [4:29:56] policy is. [4:29:57] The other thing that I will say [4:29:58] is that really troubles me is [4:30:02] we made changes to council [4:30:03] policy 000 Dash 31 in regards [4:30:09] to the transparency of dc ip [4:30:13] And at the time if you go back [4:30:14] that policy was developed to [4:30:20] what I will say streamline our [4:30:20] process to allow [4:30:21] the engineering and capital [4:30:25] projects in our public works [4:30:26] team to present their ip and to [4:30:32] get approval for projects so [4:30:32] you don't have to bring every [4:30:33] single project to city council [4:30:38] and so I'm not sure if that [4:30:39] actually served us in the best [4:30:39] interest as we look at the city [4:30:42] as a whole. [4:30:43] And so I think that's something [4:30:48] that we also need to look at [4:30:49] And I think what I'm seeing is [4:30:50] that as we are talking about [4:30:54] equity, I think as we use [4:30:55] the term nexus as we are [4:31:00] connecting the dots, I don't [4:31:01] think there's one policy that [4:31:05] will give us the proper path. [4:31:06] I think we have to use all our [4:31:11] tools, use them together to get [4:31:11] the outcomes that are needed [4:31:16] and I just want to make sure [4:31:17] when I talk about outcome it's [4:31:22] about leveling that playing [4:31:22] field, right? [4:31:28] There's a reason why you hear [4:31:29] the dissatisfaction when folks [4:31:32] come from District four When [4:31:33] you look at what happened with [4:31:34] the floods, where you look at [4:31:38] how we have all the unimproved [4:31:42] streets between four, eight, [4:31:43] nine and alleys this is not a [4:31:48] this is not something that is [4:31:48] made up. [4:31:49] It's a reality. [4:31:49] And so I think it is time that [4:31:54] we continue to work. [4:31:54] Kym, I would ask and maybe I'll [4:31:59] see the debate is I do [4:31:59] appreciate your comments. [4:32:00] I think it would be good if [4:32:04] the council can receive those [4:32:05] comments in a formalized [4:32:06] fashion in a memorandum because [4:32:10] I think this is a start of a [4:32:11] longer and broader conversation [4:32:15] to continue to right [4:32:16] the wrongs. [4:32:16] And again what's really [4:32:17] troubling is oftentimes you [4:32:21] hear the city of San Diego this [4:32:22] is just the way we do things [4:32:22] right. [4:32:26] And as you look at the budget [4:32:27] deficit, as you look at [4:32:28] the issues that we have and as [4:32:32] my good friend said, Kevin [4:32:37] Faulkner is now standing at a [4:32:38] podium in Balboa Park where he [4:32:42] played a major part in this [4:32:48] deficit problem that we have [4:32:49] And to do what he is doing now [4:32:50] I think is is such a great [4:32:53] disservice. [4:32:54] And quite honestly this honor [4:32:59] for someone who has sat in [4:32:59] the mayoral office and to do [4:33:04] what he's doing to look folks [4:33:05] in the eye I think is just [4:33:05] totally unacceptable and speaks [4:33:10] to his character. [4:33:11] And so as long as I'm on this [4:33:15] dais, I think we are going to [4:33:15] continue to have these [4:33:16] conversations and continue to [4:33:17] push forward And I'm going to [4:33:21] lean on you, Karen I'm going to [4:33:21] lean on you, Rania I'm going to [4:33:25] lean on you and leave to get [4:33:26] this right because we can no [4:33:30] longer do this. [4:33:31] Our communities can no longer [4:33:31] suffer. [4:33:32] We have folks that have lost [4:33:36] everything everything And it is [4:33:42] a long road and I don't know if [4:33:43] they will ever get back to [4:33:47] where they were And so thank [4:33:47] you Council PRESIDENT I'll [4:33:48] conclude my comments there We [4:33:53] have a lot of work to do And [4:33:54] again, Kim, thank you for your [4:33:58] comments and your work And I [4:33:58] think it shows why it was so [4:33:59] important to move [4:34:03] the Department of Race and [4:34:03] Equity to the office. [4:34:04] So thank you. [4:34:04] All right. [4:34:09] Thank you. [4:34:09] Captain Member Foster will go [4:34:10] next to Council member Board [4:34:11] Member Thank you and thank you [4:34:15] for the presentation. [4:34:16] We heard this it committee [4:34:16] already so I won't really move [4:34:17] my comments. [4:34:17] It's important planning [4:34:19] document I agree and I'm glad [4:34:19] we are doing this. [4:34:23] I do want to again ask about [4:34:24] our ability to protect the city [4:34:29] from fire and I look at [4:34:30] the committee hearing we talked [4:34:30] about the need for another city [4:34:31] type study. [4:34:34] It doesn't have to be city gate [4:34:35] itself but so do we have that [4:34:36] in the process where we're [4:34:37] going to do another study about [4:34:37] how we're going to prepare for [4:34:40] fire? [4:34:41] Are there growing housing [4:34:41] needs? [4:34:42] Chief Moran and the audience [4:34:44] perhaps he could speak to that [4:34:54] if he's able and council member [4:34:55] Currently I'm not aware of any [4:35:00] plan in place to move towards [4:35:00] another city gate study but I [4:35:01] can tell you the department is [4:35:01] open to it. [4:35:04] That's a discussion that we can [4:35:05] have with Chief Logan. [4:35:05] >> Okay. [4:35:10] What about the mayor's office? [4:35:11] Yes, more than happy to follow [4:35:11] up on that. [4:35:11] Okay. [4:35:12] The last one was when over a [4:35:15] decade ago, 2017 I believe when [4:35:16] it was public. [4:35:20] Okay. [4:35:20] That would be helpful. [4:35:21] I mean with the more housing we [4:35:25] approve we need we need to make [4:35:26] sure we can actually protect [4:35:27] people from fire and respond to [4:35:30] you know, that's called on that [4:35:30] in What about the fire training [4:35:31] facility committee we heard [4:35:36] there what the land is there we [4:35:37] are the age we vote But what [4:35:38] are we going to do about [4:35:40] building the facility? [4:35:40] So as I mentioned that [4:35:41] committee the price tag is a [4:35:45] big concern. [4:35:46] Um, we do have property off of [4:35:50] Copley Drive and we've been [4:35:50] looking at a phased approach to [4:35:51] make it more economically [4:35:55] feasible. [4:35:56] But as of right now I'm not [4:36:00] sure exactly when that will go [4:36:00] into play. [4:36:01] We're also looking for other [4:36:05] ways of funding this facility [4:36:06] such as b three or public [4:36:06] private partnership and and [4:36:10] what it can be a regional [4:36:11] facilities that been used by [4:36:15] other municipalities And then [4:36:15] we can prioritize of course our [4:36:20] fire rescue department when it [4:36:21] comes to the usage of that [4:36:21] facility. [4:36:25] So we're exploring the option [4:36:26] as well giving the high price [4:36:28] tag of of constructing such a [4:36:34] facility. [4:36:34] >> Okay. [4:36:35] We still have time. [4:36:35] We're working closely with [4:36:39] public utilities department [4:36:40] about their scheduling for [4:36:40] phase two and then work into [4:36:41] this closely. [4:36:44] So make sure we do not run out [4:36:44] of time. [4:36:45] We understand the critical [4:36:48] operations of this facility [4:36:49] right now as it's as I said. [4:36:50] So we're ensuring that we have [4:36:54] enough time to do [4:36:54] the transition when the time [4:36:55] comes. [4:36:55] Okay. [4:36:56] And do we do we have an [4:36:59] estimate about the hangars for [4:37:02] the wildfire helicopters or [4:37:02] three helicopters? [4:37:03] I believe we're close to [4:37:07] environ environmental clearance [4:37:12] But the plan that was in place [4:37:13] and this is an internal meeting [4:37:14] that I had with staff several [4:37:18] months ago I think initial plan [4:37:22] was a little ambitious. [4:37:23] So I will say our number one [4:37:23] priority is to get those [4:37:27] helicopters out of the elements [4:37:27] So however we can either scale [4:37:32] back that project and again [4:37:36] phase it so that future needs [4:37:37] can be put into place later [4:37:37] down the road. [4:37:42] We're willing to to look at it [4:37:43] differently And I know there [4:37:44] was a smaller hangar and a [4:37:47] large hangar If we can [4:37:47] accomplish what we need, meet [4:37:51] our operational goals and [4:37:52] maintain our service to [4:37:55] the community, we are open to [4:37:56] going to one hangar As long as [4:37:57] we can accomplish that and save [4:38:00] some money. [4:38:00] Okay. [4:38:01] I mean maybe the Fire Rescue [4:38:05] Foundation can help us source [4:38:06] private dollars to fundraise [4:38:10] for a project like that. [4:38:11] Yeah, so that's a conversation [4:38:15] that we can have with [4:38:15] the foundation. [4:38:15] Okay. [4:38:19] But if I could add facility and [4:38:20] all the environmental [4:38:21] permitting requirements that is [4:38:21] needed to be able to utilize [4:38:24] that area will be completed. [4:38:25] So making it ready for any type [4:38:29] of funding to use as possible. [4:38:30] Okay. [4:38:30] Okay. [4:38:30] All right. [4:38:31] Thank you. [4:38:31] I appreciate it. [4:38:32] Those papers are very expensive [4:38:34] and very important and very [4:38:35] useful. [4:38:35] So I'd like to put a roof over [4:38:36] their heads. [4:38:36] Okay. [4:38:39] Thank you very much. [4:38:40] Thank you. [4:38:44] Council member Von Loper. [4:38:44] I guess I'll wrap up and at [4:38:45] the risk of now that I've given [4:38:48] away all my time I want to [4:38:49] thank you all for being in [4:38:53] the hot seat for things that [4:38:53] you inherited And despite your [4:38:58] very good work it seems a [4:38:58] challenge to actually make [4:38:59] progress here. [4:39:02] The path ahead doesn't look [4:39:03] very clear given the scale that [4:39:07] you describe. [4:39:08] And one thing I didn't hear [4:39:09] that I want to highlight is I [4:39:12] think there has been more [4:39:13] transparency in how we talk [4:39:17] about our infrastructure [4:39:18] deficit than I've seen since [4:39:19] I've been following it for [4:39:21] the past 1520 years where as my [4:39:22] colleagues kind of alluded to [4:39:26] back in the day everybody hid [4:39:27] behind sewer and water spending [4:39:27] and look how much [4:39:30] infrastructure dollars we're [4:39:31] spending almost all of that [4:39:32] with sewer and water dollars [4:39:35] very little was going to any of [4:39:36] the other infrastructure needs. [4:39:37] And as we know when we don't [4:39:40] invest things each out and I [4:39:40] appreciate the data driven [4:39:44] approach but it's so hard [4:39:49] because it's not a static [4:39:50] world. [4:39:50] It's a dynamic world. [4:39:51] Things keep changing on you. [4:39:52] You don't know what a facility [4:39:54] is going to age out. [4:39:55] You don't know what new state [4:39:56] mandates are going to come and [4:40:00] hit us. [4:40:00] You don't know what lawsuit [4:40:01] there's going to be that forces [4:40:02] the settlement discussions [4:40:05] going forward And yet we strive [4:40:10] to try to be data driven going [4:40:10] there And it occurs to me that [4:40:15] again watching over the many [4:40:15] years I think we get distracted [4:40:16] by the next good idea. [4:40:17] I think I remember talking [4:40:20] about let's have one design for [4:40:20] fire stations, let's have one [4:40:21] design for libraries. [4:40:23] We'll just keep repeating that [4:40:24] it doesn't work out quite that [4:40:28] way going forward. [4:40:29] So I'm curious and I'll follow [4:40:34] up with Kim on some of the data [4:40:34] that came up that you came up [4:40:38] with in terms of what get [4:40:38] funded. [4:40:41] That's something when we [4:40:42] updated 800 Dash 14 and even [4:40:46] the early days of 814 over [4:40:46] the years have proven [4:40:50] particularly important But I [4:40:51] think there is a larger [4:40:54] conversation to be had here. [4:40:55] The other thing in terms of [4:40:56] the report I appreciate [4:40:56] the idea actually [4:40:59] differentiated stormwater [4:41:00] between flood resilience and [4:41:01] green infrastructure because [4:41:01] there's two different things [4:41:05] driving those future reports I [4:41:05] think should differentiate [4:41:10] those as well. [4:41:11] Still a big number and we still [4:41:11] can't figure out how to fund [4:41:12] that but maybe that would be [4:41:14] helpful. [4:41:15] I'm going to wrap up there [4:41:15] because my colleagues asked a [4:41:16] lot of good questions. [4:41:19] There was a lot of good [4:41:19] responses But thank you. [4:41:20] Thank you for bringing this [4:41:24] this forward. [4:41:24] I know everybody's working to [4:41:25] do better and we'll figure out [4:41:28] that path. [4:41:28] >> All right. [4:41:33] Well oh, Councilmember Campbell [4:41:34] ,thank you very much, Council [4:41:34] PRESIDENT. [4:41:39] I've been on and off lights [4:41:39] trying to decide if I should [4:41:40] bring something to the public's [4:41:43] attention that has maybe [4:41:47] slipped their viewpoint. [4:41:48] I've been here seven years now. [4:41:49] When I first came I noticed [4:41:52] that we had a big gap in our [4:41:56] stormwater budget of $2 [4:41:57] billion. [4:42:01] I see now it's up to probably 5 [4:42:01] billion maybe more. [4:42:06] Uh, I think the reason for this [4:42:07] has been actually alluded to [4:42:15] especially by my colleagues [4:42:16] Councilmember Rivera and [4:42:16] Councilmember Foster and that [4:42:21] is I would say for probably [4:42:24] the last 150 years I things [4:42:25] have been ignored that should [4:42:29] have been taken care of and I [4:42:30] think they alluded to that. [4:42:31] But I want to just set out [4:42:35] simple and plain the cost to [4:42:39] the consumer for our stormwater [4:42:43] is $0.98 a month $0.98 a month. [4:42:47] Now when I first came here I [4:42:48] looked up other cities in [4:42:48] California. [4:42:52] I remember Sacramento at that [4:42:53] time was $13 a month for [4:42:57] stormwater We're still $0.98. [4:43:01] I don't know what Sacramento's [4:43:01] up to. [4:43:02] I haven't looked it up lately [4:43:06] but this is the problem. [4:43:07] The problem is that we have had [4:43:11] people elected to office who [4:43:11] are afraid who have been [4:43:12] afraid. [4:43:15] I'm not talking about my [4:43:16] current colleagues. [4:43:16] I'm talking about the past To [4:43:20] say to people plainly you have [4:43:21] got to pay for what you get. [4:43:24] Nothing is free. [4:43:25] Let's be honest You get [4:43:29] services. [4:43:30] They cost money. [4:43:31] How do you expect the city to [4:43:31] pay for it? [4:43:35] We don't have a printing press. [4:43:35] We cannot print our own money [4:43:38] And so what we have to do is [4:43:43] collected. [4:43:44] So if it is I wonder I was [4:43:47] really happy when you mention [4:43:48] priorities I'm so glad you guys [4:43:49] have listed in priority what [4:43:53] actually we really do. [4:43:53] We really have to do [4:43:57] The biggest part of the gap is [4:43:58] the stormwater. [4:43:59] Is that the highest priority at [4:44:00] this time or do we have other [4:44:05] projects higher priority [4:44:06] stormwater and transportation [4:44:09] assets continue to be the two [4:44:10] highest priorities. [4:44:10] Okay. [4:44:14] Well this is a horrible time to [4:44:17] ask people to pay more but [4:44:18] $0.98 and go do it folks. [4:44:19] So I just want the public to be [4:44:22] aware that they have been [4:44:23] getting away with $0.98 for I [4:44:27] don't GOD knows how many [4:44:28] decades. [4:44:28] It's ridiculous Prices have [4:44:32] gone up. [4:44:33] So just think about it Nobody [4:44:36] suggesting we do anything about [4:44:37] that for right at this moment. [4:44:42] But I'm telling you we have to [4:44:45] do something about it And then [4:44:46] one thing we can do is to [4:44:46] increase it so that it tries to [4:44:50] start to cover the gap. [4:44:51] The gap is huge 5 billion. [4:44:55] The other thing we could do and [4:44:56] I'd love if the finance people [4:45:00] would come up and explain about [4:45:00] bonds and what we could do if [4:45:05] we issued certain bonds to [4:45:06] raise money or maybe I'm not [4:45:06] even using the right in [4:45:10] the right words to explain what [4:45:11] we could do But there are [4:45:15] certain things that governments [4:45:16] can do to issue investment [4:45:20] vehicles so that tax free bonds [4:45:25] or whatever could be issued to [4:45:26] raise money to help fill that [4:45:26] gap. [4:45:29] But still $5 billion That's [4:45:29] outrageous. [4:45:30] So if you could help us out [4:45:34] with that. [4:45:34] Yes. [4:45:35] Good afternoon. [4:45:36] Council members Jody Butler, [4:45:36] assistant director with [4:45:38] the Department of Finance like [4:45:43] MR. Snyder indicated primarily [4:45:43] the issue is the dedicated [4:45:44] revenue source. [4:45:48] The current methodology be [4:45:49] issue to be used to issue bonds [4:45:50] of the city which are lease [4:45:53] revenue bonds rely on [4:45:54] the existing revenues of [4:45:58] the general fund which as been [4:45:59] brought to your attention we [4:45:59] are reaching our debt capacity [4:46:02] limit pretty soon So for [4:46:03] typically a lot of other cities [4:46:07] could use general obligation [4:46:08] bonds but that comes with an [4:46:08] additional tax levy. [4:46:12] So that's the kind of bonds [4:46:13] that would come with its own [4:46:14] revenue source. [4:46:17] Otherwise we would need some [4:46:18] other revenue source that we [4:46:22] can pledge to issue bonds So [4:46:22] when you say revenue source in [4:46:27] order to issue the bonds, are [4:46:31] we talking about a fee for [4:46:32] stormwater that is actually [4:46:36] somewhat realistic whereas [4:46:40] the $0.98 is like from 1850 [4:46:41] the year 1850 If we had when [4:46:45] there was more here the near [4:46:45] the year 1950 would be better [4:46:46] off. [4:46:49] But is that what you're saying [4:46:50] as a revenue source? [4:46:50] In other words if those who [4:46:51] want to purchase these bonds [4:46:55] invest in these bonds would [4:46:56] look at the city and say look, [4:46:59] they're charging $20 a month [4:47:00] for the stormwater problem of [4:47:01] trying to fill the gap We can [4:47:04] afford to take a chance on [4:47:04] these bonds. [4:47:05] That's right. [4:47:09] We would need to identify a [4:47:09] dedicated revenue source to [4:47:10] repay the bonds. [4:47:10] Right. [4:47:10] Okay. [4:47:13] So public listen up. [4:47:14] I'm being transparent. [4:47:14] I'm being honest. [4:47:18] I'm known to be down to earth [4:47:19] completely Maybe sometimes not [4:47:23] so tactful. [4:47:27] But I'm telling you, my dear [4:47:27] public $0.98 a month and go do [4:47:28] it. [4:47:32] So get ready because some time [4:47:32] in the future hopefully sooner [4:47:37] than later when things are a [4:47:37] bit better we're going to have [4:47:38] to face this reality that we [4:47:42] must raise our fees on [4:47:46] stormwater And so I'm very [4:47:47] sorry and I'm sure all [4:47:47] the politicians are turning [4:47:51] bright red and wishing I had [4:47:52] never brought this up But I am [4:47:53] bringing it up and I'm going to [4:47:56] bring up some other stuff. [4:47:57] The city needs more revenue. [4:48:00] How do cities get revenue in [4:48:01] the rest of the United States? [4:48:05] Several different ways. [4:48:06] One is the county keeps our [4:48:11] property tax Sandy Hill County [4:48:12] gets a buck from each one of us [4:48:15] more than a buck on properties [4:48:16] And what do they do with it? [4:48:18] We get $0.12 back. [4:48:19] This is not right according to [4:48:19] state law. [4:48:23] It's supposed to be based on [4:48:24] services provided to [4:48:28] the population involved. [4:48:29] We have I'm kind of [4:48:30] interpreting that but I think [4:48:30] that's what it means. [4:48:33] I'm no lawyer. [4:48:34] I'm only a doctor. [4:48:38] But what I see is that our city [4:48:38] has one third of the population [4:48:42] of this county at least maybe a [4:48:43] bit more than that. [4:48:46] So we should probably get at [4:48:47] least one third of our dollar [4:48:51] back to help our city revenue. [4:48:52] We had $0.12. [4:48:52] So when taxpayers call and say [4:48:57] I pay my taxes, I want this, I [4:48:57] want that guess what? [4:48:58] You only pay $0.12 on [4:49:01] the dollar to the city. [4:49:01] So that's number one. [4:49:06] We need more How do we get it? [4:49:06] The state legislature has to [4:49:07] change the rules. [4:49:11] The state legislature has to [4:49:12] tell the county and maybe other [4:49:12] counties as well. [4:49:15] At the same time you've got to [4:49:16] give more money back to [4:49:19] the cities from the property [4:49:20] tax you collect from [4:49:20] the cities. [4:49:24] So there's one thing here's [4:49:25] another thing Most cities [4:49:25] collect an income tax. [4:49:30] Income tax is considered very [4:49:30] fair because it's usually [4:49:34] graduated The poorer you are [4:49:34] the less you pay. [4:49:35] The richer you are, the more [4:49:39] you pay. [4:49:40] The state tax is a good example [4:49:41] The state income tax I'm not [4:49:44] going to say the federal [4:49:45] because I think it stinks Right [4:49:45] now rich people pay less. [4:49:49] Poor people middle class pay [4:49:49] more. [4:49:50] So that's not right. [4:49:51] That's not how it's supposed to [4:49:53] be. [4:49:54] All right. [4:49:54] Was based on the state income [4:49:58] tax which is more fair If we [4:49:59] had a graduated income tax of [4:50:03] even a half a percent in this [4:50:03] city, that would help us [4:50:07] tremendously. [4:50:08] Another thing another thought [4:50:09] our 1% sales tax that was on [4:50:13] the ballot two years ago didn't [4:50:13] pass. [4:50:14] I don't think we passed this [4:50:17] year either because everybody's [4:50:17] having a hard time even buying [4:50:18] groceries. [4:50:23] But sales tax is a this is like [4:50:23] a flat tax. [4:50:24] Everybody pays the same on [4:50:26] whatever they buy a certain [4:50:27] percent And if we raise it 1% [4:50:30] we would have had $4 million [4:50:31] more income we think in which [4:50:35] case the city would be in [4:50:36] better shape Still not enough [4:50:41] certainly not even a crack in [4:50:41] the $5 Billion storm water [4:50:45] deficit. [4:50:46] So anyway citizens I just [4:50:50] wanted to be open honest I [4:50:50] think I have ten more months to [4:50:55] serve and I'm termed out and I [4:50:55] just want you to know reality [4:50:59] and and honesty from your city [4:51:00] government. [4:51:00] Thank you. [4:51:01] Thank you. [4:51:04] Council member Campbell, I [4:51:05] think we've heard a lot of [4:51:05] candor this afternoon and I [4:51:09] appreciate the patience of [4:51:09] chief. [4:51:10] I'm in the engineering capital [4:51:14] project MR. Snyder from Storm [4:51:19] Water be a Department of [4:51:20] Finance for your contribution [4:51:24] to a very robust conversation [4:51:24] on some of the challenges we've [4:51:28] inherited that we face going [4:51:29] forward. [4:51:29] So we'll close that item again. [4:51:33] Thank you And with that clerk [4:51:34] please introduce item 331. [4:51:35] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT [4:51:38] Item 331 is also an [4:51:39] informational item is City [4:51:42] council informational training [4:51:42] on zero based budgeting? [4:51:43] If you would like to speak on [4:51:47] this item please be sure to [4:51:47] submit a speaker slip to [4:51:48] the front of the room in [4:51:49] the clear box and if you are [4:51:52] participating remotely now's [4:51:52] the time to raise your hand by [4:51:53] pressing Star nine or the raise [4:51:56] your hand icon. [4:51:57] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All [4:52:16] right, I'm going to kick it [4:52:16] off. [4:52:21] Yeah. [4:52:21] All right. [4:52:22] MR. Molokai is going to kick it [4:52:23] off and then we'll have those [4:52:25] making the presentation [4:52:26] introduce themselves and let us [4:52:27] know about how much time you [4:52:27] expect. [4:52:27] Great. [4:52:28] Thank you. [4:52:28] Council PRESIDENT And council [4:52:30] members. [4:52:31] As you are aware, one of [4:52:31] the council's requirements is [4:52:35] to receive budget related [4:52:36] training each year We provide [4:52:40] you two different trainings. [4:52:41] One is kind of a item of [4:52:41] budgetary interest that has [4:52:44] been expressed by Council and [4:52:45] one is usually a little bit [4:52:45] more rote disclosure practice [4:52:46] of general debt policy etc. [4:52:49] This is hopefully one of [4:52:50] the ones that we slightly more [4:52:50] interesting to you but we [4:52:51] certainly do appreciate your [4:52:53] attention regardless we have a [4:52:54] presentation today to give you [4:52:57] some background on zero based [4:52:58] budgeting. [4:52:58] This was something that was [4:52:59] discussed pretty significantly [4:53:02] as a request both from Council [4:53:03] Committee for Budget and [4:53:07] Government Efficiency Chair I'm [4:53:08] going to foster to know more [4:53:09] about zero based budgeting and [4:53:09] how it can be used in [4:53:12] the city's budgeting process. [4:53:13] As was mentioned in the several [4:53:17] Council budget priority memos, [4:53:17] we are lucky enough to be able [4:53:18] to partner with the Department [4:53:19] of Finance to provide you [4:53:22] training. [4:53:23] Our team will talk a little bit [4:53:23] about what zero based budgeting [4:53:26] is and how it works in practice [4:53:27] And then the Department of [4:53:28] Finance will jump in to talk [4:53:28] about some zero based budgeting [4:53:32] elements of our current budget [4:53:32] process. [4:53:33] With that I will turn this over [4:53:33] to Jill and Alina. [4:53:37] So she's doing a lot of work at [4:53:37] the staff table today. [4:53:41] She and Sergio Alcalde will [4:53:42] prepare the and present the ipa [4:53:43] section and then we'll turn it [4:53:45] over to Ben Battaglia from [4:53:46] the Department of Finance. [4:53:46] Great. [4:53:47] Thank you so much. [4:53:50] Before I dive into today's [4:53:50] training I just want to provide [4:53:51] a little bit of background on [4:53:52] the City Council financial [4:53:55] training program that's led by [4:53:55] our office. [4:53:58] It was adopted in 2006 [4:53:59] following a report from our [4:54:00] office that responded to a call [4:54:03] report recommendation that [4:54:04] the council receive financial [4:54:04] training. [4:54:05] The program calls for two [4:54:08] trainings a year and four major [4:54:09] areas of public finance and [4:54:12] that's including debt issuance [4:54:13] and administration financial [4:54:14] disclosure, financial Statement [4:54:18] overview or the Act four and [4:54:19] current and multi-year budget [4:54:19] planning. [4:54:23] Today's training will be zero [4:54:24] based budgeting or is eb which [4:54:28] falls under the current and [4:54:29] multi-year budget planning [4:54:29] subject area. [4:54:30] Today's training comes in [4:54:33] response to Council's fiscal [4:54:33] year 2027 budget Priorities [4:54:38] process where the Budget [4:54:38] Committee chair Foster [4:54:39] requested our office in [4:54:40] the Department of Finance to [4:54:42] provide a presentation on zbb. [4:54:43] Our office has actually [4:54:48] provided training on zbb before [4:54:48] It was about ten years ago when [4:54:53] the city did a zbb pilot That [4:54:53] training referenced in a report [4:54:56] 16 Dash 16 which is called zero [4:55:01] based budgeting and examples. [4:55:01] The information in that report [4:55:02] generally still applies today. [4:55:06] So we will be referencing [4:55:07] information in that report to [4:55:08] give you a sense of what will [4:55:10] be discussing today our office [4:55:11] will cover an overview of zbb [4:55:15] and how it works In theory [4:55:16] versus in practice And then [4:55:16] we'll transition to how [4:55:17] elements of zbb have been put [4:55:21] into practice by looking at [4:55:21] other jurisdictions including [4:55:22] the city of San Diego's pilot [4:55:26] program in fiscal year 2017. [4:55:27] And Department of Finance will [4:55:31] cover how the city incorporates [4:55:31] zbb elements into the budget [4:55:36] process that exist today and a [4:55:36] discussion of this year's [4:55:40] effort to zero based external [4:55:40] contracts for the fiscal year [4:55:44] 2027 budget and the ongoing [4:55:45] analysis of general fund [4:55:48] unclassified employees. [4:55:49] So let's get into it. [4:55:50] What is zero based budgeting? [4:55:54] Zbb is a process that develops [4:55:55] budget from the ground up [4:55:58] starting from zero. [4:55:58] This is different from [4:55:59] the traditional incremental [4:56:02] budgeting approach where [4:56:03] the prior year's budget is used [4:56:04] as the starting point under zbb [4:56:07] funding is allocated [4:56:07] irrespective of what was [4:56:08] previously budgeted. [4:56:12] In theory, zbb requires every [4:56:13] budget request to be thoroughly [4:56:17] evaluated and approved with [4:56:17] service levels clearly [4:56:21] identified and prioritized. [4:56:22] Zbb breaks down an organization [4:56:26] into Decision Unit which are [4:56:27] the lowest level at which [4:56:28] budget decisions are made such [4:56:31] as a department division or [4:56:32] programs can also be used as [4:56:32] well. [4:56:36] Each decision unit is supposed [4:56:36] to develop a detailed overview [4:56:37] of their activities [4:56:41] the resources needed to meet [4:56:42] their goals and alternative [4:56:46] ways to deliver services. [4:56:47] These become decision packages [4:56:47] which outline different [4:56:51] spending levels and their [4:56:52] impacts on service delivery. [4:56:52] According to guidance from [4:56:56] the government Finance Officers [4:56:57] Association or give away each [4:57:01] decision decision Unit should [4:57:02] prepare at least three decision [4:57:02] packages. [4:57:05] The first is your barebones [4:57:06] package which provides only [4:57:10] the most essential services. [4:57:11] The second is current service [4:57:11] package which continues [4:57:16] existing service levels. [4:57:16] And finally the enhanced [4:57:17] service package which expands [4:57:20] services beyond what is [4:57:20] currently provided. [4:57:21] And each decision package [4:57:25] should include detailed [4:57:26] information on inputs such as [4:57:27] dollars and positions that are [4:57:30] needed to provide the services [4:57:30] described in that package as [4:57:31] well as specific performance [4:57:35] measures that explain how [4:57:35] different funding levels would [4:57:36] affect service levels. [4:57:40] After all packages are [4:57:41] developed they are ranked from [4:57:41] highest to lowest priority [4:57:42] within the department and then [4:57:46] management uses these rankings [4:57:46] along with desired service [4:57:50] outcomes to make final budget [4:57:50] decisions. [4:57:51] So now I'll go into [4:57:55] the advantages and drawbacks of [4:57:56] again theoretical zbb in its [4:58:00] fullest form. [4:58:00] Cited advantages include when [4:58:05] cuts are necessary. [4:58:05] Zbb offers a rational and [4:58:06] comprehensive way to determine [4:58:10] budget reductions as opposed to [4:58:10] across the board cuts. [4:58:14] It requires taking a closer [4:58:15] look at everything the city [4:58:15] spends on soda. [4:58:16] It's more clearly it can be [4:58:19] more clearly compared to [4:58:20] services that provide the most [4:58:23] value. [4:58:24] It can provide better insight [4:58:29] into detailed active use of [4:58:29] departments. [4:58:30] It can enhance decision making [4:58:31] by allowing stakeholders to [4:58:34] look at the entire budget [4:58:34] rather than focusing on [4:58:35] incremental changes to it. [4:58:39] And finally, zbb focuses on [4:58:39] performance measures and [4:58:43] results for programs. [4:58:44] >> Theoretical zbb also [4:58:48] presents a number of drawbacks [4:58:49] such as being extremely time [4:58:52] consuming and intensive [4:58:53] Developing, reviewing and [4:58:54] ranking Numerous decision [4:58:58] packages requires significant [4:58:58] time commitment from staff. [4:58:59] Because of this department [4:59:03] struggled to create multiple [4:59:03] service level options and are [4:59:04] rarely able to develop [4:59:08] alternative delivery [4:59:08] approaches. [4:59:09] Managers MAY also hesitate to [4:59:12] propose packages that are below [4:59:13] current spending levels. [4:59:17] And when there's not full buy [4:59:18] in for zbb it could lead to [4:59:19] gaming the process, for example [4:59:22] by managers offering only a few [4:59:23] packages to limit choices or [4:59:26] assigning low rankings to [4:59:27] popular services knowing they [4:59:28] are unlikely to be cut. [4:59:32] Decision packages also reflect [4:59:36] can also reflect management's [4:59:37] preferences more than [4:59:37] the priorities of elected [4:59:38] officials or the communities [4:59:42] served. [4:59:42] And finally, zbb doesn't [4:59:43] address whether a government [4:59:44] should be providing a [4:59:47] particular service in the first [4:59:47] place. [4:59:51] Now we will turn to how zbb [4:59:52] works in practice. [4:59:56] I'll note that a 2020 dfa paper [4:59:56] indicates that true or [5:00:01] theoretical zbb is very rare in [5:00:01] practice. [5:00:05] The drawbacks previously [5:00:06] mentioned make it difficult to [5:00:06] implement across all [5:00:07] departments in a large [5:00:10] organization. [5:00:10] Some jurisdictions have found [5:00:11] that zbb efficiencies would [5:00:15] likely have been found through [5:00:15] the normal budget process or [5:00:19] that they should only be using [5:00:20] zbb elements which makes sense [5:00:21] for them and only for areas [5:00:25] where it can have the most make [5:00:28] the most difference in the next [5:00:29] few slides Sergio will be [5:00:30] providing examples of how [5:00:34] elements of zbb again not for [5:00:35] zbb have been used by [5:00:39] jurisdictions successfully. [5:00:40] Thankfully in the state of [5:00:41] Georgia previously implemented [5:00:44] a nontraditional zbb approach [5:00:44] to review programs against [5:00:45] their statutory [5:00:49] responsibilities Purpose cost [5:00:50] to provide services and desired [5:00:50] performance outcomes in [5:00:54] conjunction with its annual [5:00:54] budget process, Georgia [5:00:58] evaluated select programs for [5:00:58] cost effectiveness relative to [5:00:59] the targeted performance [5:00:59] measures. [5:01:03] Georgia's zbb requirement was [5:01:03] automatically repealed in 2020. [5:01:04] However, a Senate bill [5:01:08] introduced in JANUARY of this [5:01:09] year proposes to make this [5:01:09] approach permanent. [5:01:13] Montgomery County, Pennsylvania [5:01:13] used a Michigan based form of [5:01:17] zbb to develop its 2013 budget. [5:01:17] Departments evaluate how their [5:01:18] existing activities align with [5:01:22] their mission and outline an [5:01:23] ideal organizational structure [5:01:23] to accomplish that mission. [5:01:27] Their finance office then [5:01:27] reviewed each department's [5:01:28] project budget to assess [5:01:32] whether they were aligned with [5:01:32] the department's mission and [5:01:33] the city of Chicago. [5:01:36] Zbb for its non-personal [5:01:37] expenditures were was [5:01:40] introduced in fiscal year 2015 [5:01:41] where each mp line item was [5:01:45] zeroed out. [5:01:45] According to Chicago staff, [5:01:46] the sby approach was again [5:01:48] proposed during the fiscal year [5:01:49] 2020 budget process but does [5:01:49] not appear to have been [5:01:50] implemented beyond that budget [5:01:53] cycle. [5:01:54] From 2012 to 2019 the city of [5:01:58] Calgary, Alberta and Canada [5:01:59] evaluated business business [5:01:59] units outside of the regular [5:02:00] budget process. [5:02:04] With support from external [5:02:04] consultants, Calgary conducted [5:02:05] reviews of select business [5:02:08] units to identify changes to [5:02:09] service levels or delivery [5:02:13] methods that could reduce costs [5:02:14] or improve effectiveness. [5:02:14] Calgary staff said that [5:02:18] the review process mostly [5:02:19] improved how services were [5:02:19] delivered helping them to do [5:02:23] more without spending more. [5:02:24] Rather than cutting costs per [5:02:28] council's action, Calgary will [5:02:29] be reinstating this review of [5:02:30] the fiscal year 20 their fiscal [5:02:36] year 2027 budget. [5:02:36] The slide notes some of [5:02:37] the benefits and drawbacks that [5:02:38] these jurisdictions have [5:02:41] experienced with the foremost [5:02:41] hub they put into practice [5:02:42] starting with the benefits. [5:02:46] Several of the jurisdictions we [5:02:47] review reported to have [5:02:47] generated savings. [5:02:50] For example in George's first [5:02:50] year of implementing its zbb [5:02:53] approach resulting in $8.9 [5:02:54] million in savings and [5:02:58] Montgomery County generated a [5:02:59] net of approximately $20 [5:03:00] million by selling a nursing [5:03:03] home that no longer aligned [5:03:04] with its mission. [5:03:04] Jurisdictions also noted [5:03:08] improvements in its fiscal [5:03:08] transparency and oversight and [5:03:09] that legislators were provided [5:03:13] with a better understanding of [5:03:13] operations. [5:03:18] Moving on to noted drawbacks. [5:03:19] Again, zbb required substantial [5:03:19] staff time and resources. [5:03:23] For example, Calgary noted [5:03:27] spending approximately 8.9 [5:03:28] million cad on the 11 zero [5:03:28] based reviews it conducted. [5:03:32] Jurisdictions reported having [5:03:32] faced resistance and challenges [5:03:33] related to department buying. [5:03:36] Jordan noted that if directors [5:03:37] did not see the value in [5:03:37] the process it was difficult to [5:03:41] get valuable information and [5:03:41] make meaningful changes. [5:03:45] Jurisdictions also noted that [5:03:46] it was challenging to implement [5:03:47] In Chicago, for instance, zbb [5:03:50] was not applied to personal [5:03:51] expenditures as it would be too [5:03:52] complex given their large [5:03:55] workforce. [5:03:55] >> Next we will cover several [5:04:00] lessons learned based off in [5:04:01] these jurors that in these [5:04:01] jurisdictions that again have [5:04:05] implemented only elements of [5:04:05] zbb. [5:04:06] First jurisdictions emphasized [5:04:10] the importance of developing a [5:04:11] clear implementation plan [5:04:14] before launching a zbb effort [5:04:15] and to budget enough time for [5:04:15] the process. [5:04:19] Second, zbb should emphasize [5:04:20] program improvements and [5:04:20] performance enhancements rather [5:04:21] than than focusing solely on [5:04:24] cost cutting. [5:04:25] Third jurisdictions should be [5:04:26] should secure a strong [5:04:30] leadership commitment and [5:04:30] ensure staff buy in, according [5:04:31] to Montgomery County's former [5:04:34] cfo, zbb is only successful [5:04:35] when leadership is committed to [5:04:38] the process and willing to use [5:04:39] the resulting information to [5:04:40] make tough and politically [5:04:44] difficult decisions. [5:04:45] Fourth Council should be [5:04:45] engaged throughout the whole [5:04:48] zbb process. [5:04:49] And finally, zbb needs to be [5:04:50] tailored to each organization's [5:04:53] needs and applied only where [5:04:53] feasible. [5:04:54] Calgary staff noted that there [5:04:57] is no one size fits all model [5:04:58] for their zero based review [5:05:01] process And in Chicago staff [5:05:02] recognized implementing zbb for [5:05:03] mp could help identify savings [5:05:07] But using it for p was too [5:05:07] complicated and would not work [5:05:08] without major modifications to [5:05:11] their accounting system. [5:05:12] Moving on to how the city of [5:05:16] San Diego has used zbb in [5:05:16] the past. [5:05:17] In 2015 two council members [5:05:21] requested the mayor's office to [5:05:21] implement a zbb pilot process [5:05:22] for the fiscal year 2017 [5:05:22] budget. [5:05:26] The performance and analytics [5:05:27] Department of Banda and [5:05:27] the Facilities Division within [5:05:31] the Public Works Department [5:05:31] were selected to participate [5:05:32] with both developing developing [5:05:33] three types of decision [5:05:35] packages in addition to [5:05:35] the regular budget development [5:05:36] process. [5:05:40] These packages included a core [5:05:40] decision package reflecting [5:05:44] only the funding funding needed [5:05:45] to support mandatory programs [5:05:45] or services. [5:05:49] A current decision package [5:05:50] reflecting the department's [5:05:50] existing budget levels and [5:05:54] enhance or efficiency decision [5:05:55] package which includes funding [5:05:55] requests to improve programs, [5:05:59] expand service levels or [5:05:59] achieve operational [5:06:00] efficiencies. [5:06:03] The pilot program was [5:06:04] structured for program or [5:06:04] service based budgeting rather [5:06:08] than the organizational [5:06:09] organization based budgeting [5:06:09] model that the city used at [5:06:10] the time and still continues to [5:06:13] use today. [5:06:14] We note that the pilot program [5:06:18] did not reduce the budgets of [5:06:19] Panda or the Facilities [5:06:19] division. [5:06:20] Instead the pilot program [5:06:23] increased them. [5:06:23] Several items from each of [5:06:24] the departments in hand [5:06:25] Decision packages were [5:06:28] converted into budget additions [5:06:33] in the fiscal year 2017 Budget [5:06:37] Report from Financial [5:06:37] management in 2016 noted some [5:06:38] benefits of the city zbb pilot [5:06:42] program departments were able [5:06:43] to more clearly identify their [5:06:43] funding needs. [5:06:47] The processing is lower level [5:06:47] management in the budgeting [5:06:48] process empowering department [5:06:51] staff and it also gave decision [5:06:52] makers insights into [5:06:52] the department's day to day [5:06:53] operations and allowed them to [5:06:56] select different service [5:06:56] levels. [5:06:57] The report also noted some [5:07:01] major challenges of the program [5:07:01] . [5:07:02] The pilot required extensive [5:07:02] manual tracking and analysis [5:07:06] developing multiple decision [5:07:07] packages, demanded considerable [5:07:07] time and effort from staff. [5:07:11] Good performance measures were [5:07:11] needed such as the cost of [5:07:15] different service level options [5:07:15] . [5:07:16] And lastly it created costly. [5:07:16] It created costly, complex and [5:07:20] time consuming processes. [5:07:21] On top of gathering data and [5:07:22] developing multiple decision [5:07:25] packages, both departments [5:07:26] still had to perform [5:07:26] the standard budget process [5:07:30] work will conclude our portion [5:07:30] of the training today by [5:07:34] providing some takeaways. [5:07:35] Zero based budgeting could [5:07:36] identify savings by performing [5:07:39] an in-depth review of [5:07:40] expenditures but it also [5:07:44] requires complex time consuming [5:07:44] and potentially costly [5:07:45] processes. [5:07:45] However, there are ways that an [5:07:49] in-depth review could be part [5:07:50] of the current budget process [5:07:50] as the Department of Finance [5:07:51] will cover in their [5:07:54] presentation. [5:07:54] There are also alternatives to [5:07:55] zbb such as conducting [5:07:59] strategic programmatic reviews [5:08:00] during the standard budget [5:08:03] process or more in-depth review [5:08:04] . [5:08:04] More in-depth review outside [5:08:05] the budget process that MAY [5:08:08] also produce similar results to [5:08:08] zbb. [5:08:09] In terms of budgetary savings. [5:08:13] When the city piloted a zbb [5:08:14] program for the fiscal year [5:08:14] 2017 budget, it resulted in [5:08:18] budget additions for enhanced [5:08:18] service levels. [5:08:19] We know that significant budget [5:08:23] savings come from reduced [5:08:23] service levels. [5:08:24] Council members could become [5:08:24] involved in service level [5:08:28] discussions at committee or [5:08:29] they MAY consider evaluating [5:08:29] and prioritizing individual [5:08:33] programs and service services [5:08:34] rather than entire departments. [5:08:38] Finally, the budget Committee [5:08:38] could take a deeper look into [5:08:39] the zbb efforts. [5:08:42] The city is already currently [5:08:43] using including how [5:08:43] the Department of Finance [5:08:44] budgets for non-discretionary [5:08:47] expenditures hourly positions [5:08:48] as well as the zbb of external [5:08:49] contracts and services for [5:08:52] the fiscal year 2027 budget. [5:08:53] This leads us to your [5:08:56] presentation and I'll now hand [5:08:57] it over to you and will tell [5:09:01] you. [5:09:01] Thank you Sergio. [5:09:06] Good afternoon. [5:09:07] Council PRESIDENT Lacob and [5:09:07] Council members. [5:09:08] i'm Ben Battalion Director of [5:09:08] Finance. [5:09:11] Today I'll be discussing how [5:09:11] the Department of Finance is [5:09:12] incorporating zero based [5:09:14] budgeting principles into [5:09:15] the city's current budget [5:09:16] development process and [5:09:20] highlighting several additional [5:09:21] areas where a zero based review [5:09:24] is being applied to the f y [5:09:24] 2027 budget. [5:09:29] >> The city uses various zbb [5:09:30] approaches in the current [5:09:30] budget development process. [5:09:34] Departments are required to [5:09:34] apply a zero based budgeting [5:09:35] approach to several key [5:09:39] categories including [5:09:39] non-discretionary accounts for [5:09:44] things like utilities rent and [5:09:45] debt service information [5:09:49] technology accounts non [5:09:50] standard hour positions such as [5:09:50] interns and other hourly staff [5:09:54] fixed fringe benefits including [5:09:55] the annual pension payment. [5:09:58] Worker's compensation, long [5:09:59] term disability and retiree [5:10:00] health as well as public [5:10:03] liabilities costs. [5:10:04] Additionally, the Department of [5:10:05] Finance identifies other areas [5:10:08] that MAY benefit from a zero [5:10:09] based review each year. [5:10:13] For example, a review of fire [5:10:14] rescue or police overtime [5:10:14] needs. [5:10:17] And finally departments are [5:10:18] required to assess their [5:10:19] baseline budgets to determine [5:10:19] if incremental adjustments are [5:10:23] necessary to maintain or [5:10:23] enhance existing service [5:10:24] levels. [5:10:28] In these cases departments will [5:10:28] develop a budget adjustment [5:10:31] proposal to be evaluated and [5:10:31] considered during the budget [5:10:36] development process. [5:10:36] >> Expenditure categories that [5:10:37] are zero based each year [5:10:41] represent represent about 40% [5:10:41] of the total general fund [5:10:42] budget. [5:10:46] The fiscal year 26 adopted [5:10:49] general fund budget includes [5:10:50] about 836 million of the $2.2 [5:10:53] billion budget that is zero [5:10:53] based. [5:10:54] The remaining budget primarily [5:10:58] consists of budgeted positions [5:10:58] as well as other non personnel [5:11:02] expenditures such as supplies. [5:11:07] >> There was a new focus this [5:11:08] year on a zero based review of [5:11:09] external contracts and services [5:11:12] for the general fund as well as [5:11:12] some select non general funds. [5:11:13] Each department was asked to [5:11:17] review their fy 26 external [5:11:18] contracts and services budgets [5:11:21] and itemize how they are [5:11:22] projected to be spent in [5:11:22] the current fiscal year. [5:11:26] By account and contract [5:11:27] accounts that are part of this [5:11:27] review include professional [5:11:31] technical and consulting [5:11:32] services, insurance fees and [5:11:36] permits, rent training and [5:11:37] travel among others. [5:11:41] Each expenditure was reviewed [5:11:42] and justified individually with [5:11:46] projections developed for both [5:11:47] fiscal year 26 and fiscal year [5:11:47] 27. [5:11:51] Departments also documented [5:11:52] the service levels supported by [5:11:52] the expenditures and they [5:11:55] identified whether the costs [5:11:56] were either ongoing or one time [5:12:00] in nature. [5:12:01] >> The information prepared by [5:12:01] departments is still being [5:12:05] reviewed and analyzed by [5:12:05] the Department of Finance. [5:12:09] However, approximately 250 [5:12:09] million is projected to be [5:12:10] spent on external contracts and [5:12:13] services for fiscal year 2026. [5:12:17] The data shows that the ten [5:12:18] largest spending categories [5:12:18] account for about 85% of all [5:12:22] external contracts and services [5:12:23] expenditures. [5:12:27] This concentration helps focus [5:12:28] review efforts on the areas [5:12:28] with the most significant [5:12:32] financial impact. [5:12:33] The reimbursement agreements [5:12:33] category represents about a [5:12:36] quarter of the total projection [5:12:37] . [5:12:37] This category primarily [5:12:38] consists of the transfer to [5:12:42] the Public Liability Fund and [5:12:42] transfers to the San Diego [5:12:43] Housing Commission to support [5:12:44] shelter operations and [5:12:49] the eviction prevention program [5:12:50] . [5:12:50] >> Looking at the preliminary [5:12:51] results of the fy 26 [5:12:54] projections, approximately 15.8 [5:12:55] million is in Decreased [5:12:59] spending was identified across [5:13:03] the 55 accounts and [5:13:04] approximately 20.9 million in [5:13:04] increased spending was [5:13:07] projected across 40 accounts. [5:13:07] Overall the net projected [5:13:11] increase of approximately 5 [5:13:11] million is primarily driven by [5:13:16] inflation as well as the rising [5:13:17] cost of doing business. [5:13:17] This exercise has helped [5:13:21] departments identify where cost [5:13:22] savings measures could be [5:13:22] implemented to help address [5:13:25] the current year's projected [5:13:26] budget deficit as well as to [5:13:26] support other under budgeted [5:13:30] priorities. [5:13:31] I want to highlight a few [5:13:31] examples. [5:13:34] The police department is [5:13:35] projecting to exceed their [5:13:36] external contracts and services [5:13:39] budget by approximately 2 [5:13:40] million which includes support [5:13:40] for core essential services [5:13:43] that cannot be managed in-house [5:13:44] such as forensic medical [5:13:44] examinations. [5:13:49] Translation services and [5:13:49] interagency agreements with [5:13:50] the state and the county. [5:13:53] The Parks and Recreation [5:13:53] Department is projecting to [5:13:56] exceed their budget by [5:13:57] approximately 3 million [5:13:57] primarily as a result of [5:14:01] contractual increases as well [5:14:02] as non-routine joint use site [5:14:02] repairs And the Transportation [5:14:07] Department is projecting to [5:14:07] increase their budget or exceed [5:14:11] their budget by approximately a [5:14:11] million primarily due to [5:14:13] increased contractual costs for [5:14:19] concrete and asphalt. [5:14:22] For fy 2027 projections about [5:14:23] 4.4 million and decreased [5:14:26] spending was identified across [5:14:27] 23 accounts and about 16 [5:14:27] million in increased spending [5:14:31] was projected across 48 [5:14:31] accounts. [5:14:32] Similar to fy 26, this net [5:14:36] increase is largely driven by [5:14:36] inflation and increased [5:14:40] operating costs which are [5:14:40] necessary to maintain fy 2026 [5:14:44] service levels. [5:14:45] The results of this analysis [5:14:46] will help determine which areas [5:14:46] of the budget could be [5:14:49] decreased to support other [5:14:50] areas which are projected to be [5:14:51] under budget to maintain [5:14:54] current service levels. [5:14:55] For example, the police and [5:14:55] parks and recreation [5:14:59] departments are projecting to [5:15:00] two need an additional [5:15:00] 1,000,007 million respectively [5:15:03] and this is primarily due to [5:15:04] contractual cpi increases for [5:15:09] their contracts. [5:15:10] >> In addition to the review of [5:15:10] external contracts and services [5:15:14] departments are also conducting [5:15:15] a comprehensive review and [5:15:19] inventory of all unclassified [5:15:20] fired positions across [5:15:20] the city. [5:15:21] Departments have been asked to [5:15:24] document the program or [5:15:25] divisions Each of their [5:15:28] unclassified positions oversee [5:15:29] the key responsibilities of [5:15:30] each role and the span of [5:15:33] control for those positions. [5:15:34] This information will support [5:15:34] budget decision making and [5:15:38] organizational review as part [5:15:39] of the broader effort to [5:15:39] structurally balance about [5:15:43] the budget. [5:15:43] >> In summary, zero based [5:15:47] budgeting is currently being [5:15:48] applied to non-discretionary [5:15:49] accounts spending hourly [5:15:53] positions, fixed fringe [5:15:53] benefits and public liability [5:15:57] costs citywide. [5:15:58] >> External contracts and [5:15:59] services are being analyzed and [5:16:01] justified as part of the fy [5:16:02] 2027 budget process and [5:16:06] departments are conducting a [5:16:07] citywide review of unclassified [5:16:07] positions to support informed [5:16:11] budget decisions As the city [5:16:11] continues its effort to [5:16:15] structurally balance the budget [5:16:15] . [5:16:16] Additional components of zero [5:16:17] based budgeting MAY be [5:16:17] incorporated in the future [5:16:21] fiscal year such as potentially [5:16:21] zero basing entire budgets for [5:16:25] specific departments pending [5:16:25] available resources. [5:16:26] That concludes my presentation. [5:16:30] I'm happy to answer any [5:16:31] questions or thank you to my [5:16:31] team and to do you all for [5:16:36] participating with us on this. [5:16:36] As we move to Councilmember [5:16:37] question of the comments, just [5:16:40] reminder we have to pass out a [5:16:41] survey. [5:16:42] If you can fill it out to let [5:16:42] us know what we are doing well [5:16:44] and how we can improve. [5:16:45] And with that I'll wrap it up. [5:16:46] All right. [5:16:46] Thank you. [5:16:49] Charles Gillian, Sergio and Ben [5:16:50] for this training that was [5:16:53] requested by several [5:16:54] individuals and partially meets [5:16:59] our requirements for budget [5:16:59] training. [5:17:00] So with that Clark, please [5:17:04] proceed with public comment. [5:17:04] >> Thank you. [5:17:05] Council PRESIDENT We have one [5:17:05] speaker here in council [5:17:09] chambers Blair Beckman if you [5:17:10] can please come forward. [5:17:10] We currently have five people [5:17:12] in the virtual queue. [5:17:17] You'll have two minutes. [5:17:18] All right. [5:17:22] Thank you, everyone. [5:17:22] Uh, pretty good item. [5:17:23] This is the first time I've [5:17:27] heard of these efforts and work [5:17:27] and so it's learning for me. [5:17:32] I'm a bit behind. [5:17:32] I'm trying to better [5:17:32] understand. [5:17:33] Thank you. [5:17:37] I know the memo within the memo [5:17:37] is said Councilperson Lee wants [5:17:42] to be better understanding this [5:17:42] issue from previous [5:17:46] presentations so hopefully he's [5:17:47] be nice to hear his comments [5:17:48] and questions on this to know [5:17:51] today. [5:17:52] Um thank you that overall [5:17:56] you're trying to be addressing [5:17:56] uh not just immediate issues [5:18:01] but uh you know with your [5:18:02] capital items previously you're [5:18:05] really trying to take a long [5:18:06] term view of how to address our [5:18:06] issues. [5:18:10] It's nice to hear. [5:18:11] I think it's really important [5:18:11] to do. [5:18:11] Thank you. [5:18:15] Um, I know retirement board [5:18:16] issues can have a really [5:18:20] important way to look at more [5:18:20] long term forecasting and ideas [5:18:24] of how to be budgeting that MAY [5:18:25] be of help to this entire [5:18:25] process. [5:18:29] We're going through right now. [5:18:30] Thank you very much That um [5:18:34] Council personnel although Vera [5:18:35] seems to have very nicely [5:18:38] described that um and [5:18:38] Councilperson Campbell that [5:18:43] revenue is simply really it is [5:18:44] vital to figure out those ways [5:18:48] Um we can't just simply cut [5:18:52] things and say we're caring um [5:18:53] it takes a lot of effort and [5:18:54] council personnel over there [5:18:55] and others really want to do [5:18:58] this decently and you are [5:18:58] working on that on the previous [5:19:02] item. [5:19:03] Thank you. [5:19:04] Good luck with what we do well [5:19:07] together that we save our [5:19:08] practices together and our best [5:19:08] selves together. [5:19:12] That's it's a tough time. [5:19:13] Good luck how we're creative [5:19:16] and come up with really [5:19:17] constructive answers and not [5:19:21] just other things. [5:19:22] >> Thank you. [5:19:23] Thank you for that concluding [5:19:23] comment. [5:19:24] The five minute timer has been [5:19:26] started five speakers in [5:19:26] the queue starting with John [5:19:27] Stump. [5:19:30] After that The Gambler one of [5:19:34] my favorite subjects budgeting [5:19:35] . [5:19:35] First I want to say again [5:19:39] the way the budget is arranged [5:19:40] does not It's alphabetical. [5:19:45] It should be arranged based on [5:19:46] Maslow's hierarchy of needs [5:19:50] The things that are most [5:19:50] essential to the needs of [5:19:55] people like housing are should [5:19:57] be on top and then things [5:20:03] should be in declining order. [5:20:03] >> Zero based budgeting There's [5:20:08] an opportunity to add to [5:20:08] the list that we could zero [5:20:12] based and that is subsidies to [5:20:17] activities that are costing [5:20:18] the city money and could be [5:20:22] reimbursed that you know what I [5:20:23] think about is when the city [5:20:27] sends police or fire or other [5:20:27] support services like [5:20:31] ambulances, those organizations [5:20:32] that require those [5:20:36] significantly should be [5:20:37] reimbursing the city so that we [5:20:37] don't have to think about [5:20:41] laying off police officers or [5:20:49] fire workers and then the third [5:20:49] area that is zero based [5:20:54] budgeting could be looking at [5:20:54] is stormwater. [5:20:58] You know there was a stormwater [5:21:03] is a development cost. [5:21:04] It's something you do when you [5:21:05] build new neighborhoods and you [5:21:08] cover land. [5:21:09] So what the combination has to [5:21:13] be is first fees to develop [5:21:17] land that's going to cost more [5:21:22] stormwater impacts the fees [5:21:22] raising taxes just on the basis [5:21:26] of water use or something like [5:21:27] that is not the only way to do [5:21:32] it and it should No one should [5:21:36] get a lower rate on it than [5:21:36] common citizens. [5:21:37] >> Thank you Your time has [5:21:38] concluded Gambler If you can [5:21:40] please unmute. [5:21:46] After that is 8700 gambler I [5:21:47] cannot unmute for you There you [5:21:52] go Daniel here You know what so [5:21:52] crazy I worked with the county [5:21:56] of San Diego for 20 years and I [5:21:57] had the opportunity to help fix [5:22:01] the budget of the San Diego [5:22:01] Registrar of Voters. [5:22:02] The craziest thing is are [5:22:05] the things that we budgeted for [5:22:06] really it's just a copy and [5:22:06] paste job every single time. [5:22:09] No one at the top really knows [5:22:10] what is actually in there And [5:22:14] so I was tasked to go ahead and [5:22:15] actually do the budget And it's [5:22:19] not that hard. [5:22:19] My surprise is the fact that we [5:22:20] don't do it. [5:22:23] We don't have supervisors [5:22:24] making sure that each [5:22:29] department is properly doing [5:22:29] this and then you come up with [5:22:33] that So use it or lose it And [5:22:34] then when they go ahead and cut [5:22:35] costs then they go ahead and [5:22:38] add costs doing special things [5:22:39] and all that stuff I find it Do [5:22:40] we actually have supervisor I [5:22:43] mean do we have any qualified [5:22:48] people working at the county or [5:22:48] the city that understands money [5:22:49] at all or do you guys think [5:22:53] that the people are just a [5:22:54] piggy bank for you? [5:22:54] I mean because that's the way [5:22:58] that you act. [5:22:59] I mean that was a way that [5:23:00] Cynthia Byers, the registrar of [5:23:02] voters treated it. [5:23:03] I mean we tripled the cost of [5:23:03] an election because they were [5:23:08] lazy to and they just wanted to [5:23:08] mail out everything without [5:23:09] doing any security checks. [5:23:12] That's why we get people like [5:23:12] Shawn leading us. [5:23:16] These people are unqualified. [5:23:17] No one wanted them except for [5:23:18] the fraudsters and this is what [5:23:23] we're up to now We have to [5:23:23] teach you guys how to do [5:23:24] budget. [5:23:26] Richardson's going to flat out [5:23:27] ignore and you're going to [5:23:27] continue doing what you're [5:23:31] going to do because you know [5:23:32] people are going to cheat for [5:23:32] you. [5:23:33] I don't like this system. [5:23:35] I don't like the fact that we [5:23:36] no longer want qualified people [5:23:37] working for us and we don't [5:23:41] have proper supervisors. [5:23:41] If you want to go ahead and get [5:23:42] any information on how to [5:23:46] actually properly do that, [5:23:47] can't talk to the county of San [5:23:52] Diego and particularly Nicole [5:23:52] Alejandro. [5:23:53] >> So we're going to why didn't [5:23:54] you up And you know time has [5:23:57] concluded at 700 if you can [5:23:57] please let me know after that [5:24:04] is the original 8700 star six. [5:24:05] Thank you, Joy. [5:24:12] Senator cd3, I just have so [5:24:12] much to say. [5:24:16] I'm so excited. [5:24:17] Councilmember Rivera and [5:24:19] Councilmember Foster the third [5:24:20] fabulous sharing on that last [5:24:24] item. [5:24:25] I was mesmerized. [5:24:29] It's just good work And in [5:24:30] being she'll just keep doing it [5:24:35] that way and and PRESIDENT Kind [5:24:36] of was so generous with time it [5:24:39] was just wonderful. [5:24:40] So on this item of Department [5:24:44] of Finance five stars because I [5:24:45] think your implementation of [5:24:49] the zbb the last time is [5:24:54] really, really good and I like [5:24:54] the I.T. [5:24:59] >> Account being part of that I [5:24:59] guess you call it the pilot [5:25:03] project and and the fact that [5:25:04] you pointed out that you know [5:25:08] inflation and rising costs are [5:25:08] really maybe the main thing [5:25:12] that that hurt us So it's good [5:25:17] stuff and I call it a hybrid a [5:25:18] zbb hybrid And I want you to [5:25:22] continue because I think it's [5:25:23] too impractical to go all [5:25:27] the way with it. [5:25:28] But I do like where it's headed [5:25:28] And and I just think you're [5:25:32] doing great in let's just keep [5:25:33] doing what we're doing, add [5:25:37] some things, subtract some [5:25:38] things But it's I think it's [5:25:38] really, really a good route [5:25:42] today for our budget. [5:25:42] So thank you again I have a [5:25:43] couple of other things that [5:25:46] I'll give it to you tonight So [5:25:47] thank you very much. [5:25:47] Love to all. [5:25:48] Thank you. [5:25:49] Next is the original If you can [5:25:50] please unmute after that Our [5:25:55] final speaker is 8813. [5:25:56] Anything you guys talk about [5:25:56] with the budget it's a little [5:25:57] bit frightening because you say [5:26:00] that there's not enough money. [5:26:00] I don't know how billions of [5:26:01] dollars isn't enough money to [5:26:05] do the things that you're quote [5:26:06] unquote supposed to do And then [5:26:10] so you come continue Lee after [5:26:11] the people going like was isn't [5:26:12] enough when you more for me [5:26:14] like oh my gosh talk about like [5:26:15] just robbing people that are [5:26:20] suffering and you know it too [5:26:20] and it's all at the hands of [5:26:21] new guys And this seems like [5:26:22] more of another way to kind of [5:26:24] hide things because it then you [5:26:25] know, are you not keeping up [5:26:30] with your required means? [5:26:30] Is this supposed to not be [5:26:31] happening twice a year and it's [5:26:34] only happened what I mean as [5:26:35] far as you documented or it [5:26:38] could have been before 2016 but [5:26:39] basically twice in the last 20 [5:26:40] years that it's been in place. [5:26:43] And so what are we paying for [5:26:43] with this? [5:26:44] But if you can sit there and [5:26:48] say that we're going to go from [5:26:48] zero and up. [5:26:49] Well, if you don't look at what [5:26:50] was spent last year on a [5:26:53] certain entity or program or [5:26:58] whatever, then you this seems [5:26:59] more like you want to hide that [5:26:59] you've already given say an [5:27:03] entity like Dreams for Change [5:27:04] this month's money and we need [5:27:07] to kind of start from zero and [5:27:07] say we need to give them this [5:27:08] much money this year. [5:27:11] I just think it's crazy because [5:27:11] like all of the things that [5:27:16] have been going on especially [5:27:16] with like the police overtime [5:27:21] you guys literally or the count [5:27:21] some of you in the councils [5:27:25] before you implemented to make [5:27:26] your employees get back to and [5:27:26] so you lost a third of your [5:27:30] police department and we have [5:27:31] to pay for that because they're [5:27:35] no longer, you know, full of [5:27:36] people that can be doing [5:27:39] the job And so they have to pay [5:27:40] for overtime. [5:27:41] And so I mean if you guys quit [5:27:45] doing things that are making us [5:27:45] have to pay more, those [5:27:46] billions of dollars that you [5:27:49] get should be suffice. [5:27:50] You need to be good stewards of [5:27:51] our money and not try and look [5:27:54] for other ways to hide [5:27:55] the racketeering that's going [5:27:55] on. [5:27:56] It is so clear people just pay [5:27:59] attention Your time has [5:28:00] concluded 8813 If you can [5:28:01] please unmute your final [5:28:07] speaker. [5:28:11] Okay So here Amen to that. [5:28:12] Now it's always a red flag to [5:28:12] me when you're getting [5:28:16] information from other [5:28:16] metropolitan cities like [5:28:17] Chicago and to utilize it here [5:28:21] in San Diego if that's not an [5:28:22] indicator of system slowly [5:28:26] leading us toward a one world [5:28:26] government structure I don't [5:28:30] know what is this These [5:28:30] packages being presented are [5:28:31] not beneficial for the people. [5:28:35] They're only efficient for [5:28:36] the expansion of government [5:28:40] control price price I hope [5:28:40] the staffers in this room [5:28:41] understand that the work you're [5:28:42] doing contributes to [5:28:44] the systems that further [5:28:45] control and manage people [5:28:49] including your own loved ones [5:28:50] Under what is openly discussed [5:28:51] as the United Nations agenda [5:28:54] for the 21st century. [5:28:54] I promise you it does. [5:28:58] Meanwhile, all of our hard [5:28:58] earned tax dollars are being [5:28:59] wasted prioritizing an agenda [5:29:03] rather than addressing [5:29:03] the basic urgent needs of [5:29:04] the people. [5:29:08] Wake up, catch up. [5:29:09] More and more people are [5:29:09] speaking about things like [5:29:10] the 15 minute city model and [5:29:12] the broader global frameworks [5:29:13] being pushed by organizations [5:29:14] like the World Economic Forum, [5:29:18] the un and the World Health [5:29:18] Organization. [5:29:19] There's no theory about it. [5:29:22] These discussions are publicly [5:29:23] documented. [5:29:23] What's really concerning is [5:29:24] that people have forgotten [5:29:27] something very important. [5:29:28] It was things are sovereign. [5:29:32] Quite frankly, we were never [5:29:33] meant to be endlessly governed [5:29:33] especially not by systems that [5:29:37] have repeatedly shown [5:29:38] corruption and a lack of [5:29:38] accountability. [5:29:42] So I look forward to the day [5:29:42] when more people begin to see [5:29:43] through the smoke and mirrors [5:29:47] of government both locally and [5:29:47] federally because once people [5:29:51] truly see it everything changes [5:29:51] . [5:29:52] Thank you. [5:29:57] That concludes public for this [5:29:57] item. [5:29:58] >> All right. [5:29:58] Thank you, City Clerk. [5:30:02] This is an information item No [5:30:02] motions required. [5:30:03] I'll turn it over to my [5:30:06] colleagues for questions and [5:30:06] comments and we'll start with [5:30:07] the chair of the Budget [5:30:07] Committee. [5:30:10] Councilmember Foster Yes. [5:30:11] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT [5:30:16] And thank you to the ipa and [5:30:20] Department of Finance in [5:30:21] putting this presentation [5:30:21] together. [5:30:25] I do appreciate [5:30:26] the presentation. [5:30:30] I think there's a lot to unpack [5:30:34] Um, based on what we just [5:30:35] received. [5:30:36] Um, I think there's probably [5:30:40] for me to be in a more [5:30:40] comfortable place to have a [5:30:44] more detailed type conversation [5:30:44] especially as we look to look [5:30:49] at um I want to say the areas [5:30:54] that we currently exercise zbb [5:30:54] and the outcomes and what those [5:30:58] have been and the thought [5:30:59] process that goes into [5:31:06] the decisions that are made in [5:31:07] . [5:31:07] I guess I will I will always [5:31:11] say this as you look at this [5:31:11] process, I think I will go back [5:31:15] to what I have said since day [5:31:19] one of of serving as a council [5:31:19] member for the fourth District. [5:31:23] I think it even speaks more in [5:31:24] regards to the importance of [5:31:25] directors to understand their [5:31:33] departments and their roles [5:31:33] responsibilities. [5:31:37] And I'll say that in working to [5:31:38] core services versus non-core [5:31:43] type services I think that is [5:31:43] something that we really still [5:31:47] need to work on and get our [5:31:52] arms around in order for I'm [5:31:53] gonna say any type of budgeting [5:31:54] to truly truly work especially [5:31:57] when we are in this situation [5:31:57] and dealing with this [5:31:58] structural deficit and we are [5:31:59] trying to make the decisions [5:32:02] that we have in front of us [5:32:03] when we're trying to work to a [5:32:03] balanced budget. [5:32:07] Um also I'll go back to that [5:32:12] that um, you know we did have a [5:32:12] presentation by the city [5:32:16] Attorney's office in regards to [5:32:16] what I will term mandated core [5:32:17] services. [5:32:22] I think there's still some more [5:32:22] conversation that needs to take [5:32:25] place There to truly land to [5:32:30] where we have consensus um from [5:32:35] the mayor's office also with [5:32:36] this body the aba's office and [5:32:40] our departments to to make sure [5:32:41] we are all on the same page and [5:32:45] operating from a place of [5:32:45] consensus. [5:32:50] Um I will say this as well and [5:32:50] I'm just I'm going to go back [5:32:51] to your slide. [5:32:54] I think it's Slide nine where [5:32:54] we were talking about [5:32:55] theoretical zbb. [5:32:59] Um zero based budgeting and [5:32:59] cited drawbacks. [5:33:04] Just as I look at this, I think [5:33:06] any time we are dealing with a [5:33:07] $6 billion budget and [5:33:12] complexities the when you start [5:33:13] drawing into the different [5:33:18] various um fund accounts in [5:33:18] the way we do business I think [5:33:22] it's complex No matter what [5:33:23] system you use And I think it's [5:33:27] all a time um a time sensitive [5:33:32] type type issue and takes time. [5:33:36] But I am a little in I think I [5:33:37] understand this when you talk [5:33:42] about reluctance of managers to [5:33:43] suggest decision packages. [5:33:43] When you talk about lack of buy [5:33:47] in um can lead to gaming [5:33:47] the system When you talk about [5:33:51] decision packages are often [5:33:52] driven by management [5:33:56] preferences and MAY not reflect [5:33:57] priorities of stakeholders. [5:33:58] >> I feel like a lot of this be [5:34:02] current is currently being [5:34:03] practiced by the city of San [5:34:06] Diego in the various [5:34:07] departments as we are putting [5:34:08] our budget together. [5:34:11] And I just have to say you know [5:34:12] for me when we talk about lack [5:34:17] of buying can lead to gaming [5:34:17] the system, I must say I view [5:34:22] that as simply insubordination. [5:34:23] If the if the policy is set in [5:34:27] place and directors are to to [5:34:32] to then in turn implement and [5:34:36] execute and there are issues in [5:34:37] regards to philosophy or [5:34:42] the desire to do so. [5:34:43] Um I quite frankly read that as [5:34:43] insubordination and I think [5:34:47] that's another conversation [5:34:48] that needs to be had as we talk [5:34:49] about the operations of [5:34:50] the city of San Diego. [5:34:56] Um other thing that I will say [5:35:00] and really what I'm interested [5:35:01] as we looked at are the things [5:35:03] that you brought up when we [5:35:09] talk about our [5:35:09] non-discretionary type items. [5:35:10] I would like to get a detailed [5:35:14] sit down with you guys to truly [5:35:15] understand that. [5:35:15] I think if you look at our [5:35:16] budgets internally those [5:35:20] non-discretionary lines are [5:35:20] tend to be larger lines with [5:35:25] just in a council office, right [5:35:26] versus what our own spend is in [5:35:26] other areas. [5:35:30] But we have no say so in what [5:35:34] that is or how that's developed [5:35:35] . [5:35:35] And so I think it would behoove [5:35:36] all of us to have some more [5:35:40] insight into those as well. [5:35:41] And quite frankly, as we talk [5:35:45] about the one thing that I'm [5:35:46] losing in here are some of [5:35:50] the decisions that are made as [5:35:51] we look at travel, as we look [5:35:55] at those types of things. [5:35:56] You know, I have traveled on [5:36:01] any type of um one of the trips [5:36:06] we do to on our delegation or [5:36:07] delegation trips. [5:36:07] I haven't gone to the state or [5:36:12] to to on the Mexico trip or to [5:36:17] D.C. And I'm continuing to um [5:36:17] to not do those. [5:36:18] That's a decision that I make [5:36:22] as the head of my office but I [5:36:23] don't know if how those types [5:36:27] of decisions are being made [5:36:27] right. [5:36:28] Also as we go into [5:36:29] the decisions when we purchase [5:36:33] equipment and vehicles, Right. [5:36:34] So I think there are some other [5:36:34] things that that that are that [5:36:38] play into not only a zbb [5:36:38] process but just how certain [5:36:39] decisions are made and how [5:36:43] those line up as we are [5:36:44] creating or going through this [5:36:44] process. [5:36:48] So I think it's a little more [5:36:49] complex And then then kind of [5:36:50] saying hey takes time winding [5:36:50] down. [5:36:55] I think there's a lot of things [5:36:55] that we need to go through. [5:36:56] But I do thank you for this. [5:37:00] I think it's a good start. [5:37:01] I would like to look at [5:37:01] the outcomes on what you did [5:37:02] and have a more detailed [5:37:04] conversation as we go through [5:37:05] the Budget review Committee and [5:37:09] as we go to finalize the fiscal [5:37:09] year 27 budget. [5:37:10] So I'll be asking those types [5:37:14] of questions dig digging a [5:37:15] little deeper. [5:37:15] And probably having some [5:37:19] preliminary discussions as we [5:37:20] as we go into things to give [5:37:21] you an opportunity to to brief [5:37:26] my office and to do certain [5:37:27] things that we can try and be [5:37:27] as efficient as we can as we [5:37:28] come to the day. [5:37:31] So thank you again And that [5:37:32] concludes my comments. [5:37:32] Council PRESIDENT All right. [5:37:36] Thank you Councilmember Foster [5:37:37] We'll go next to Councilmember [5:37:37] Eli Rivera Thank you. [5:37:38] Council PRESIDENT. [5:37:38] Thanks for this presentation. [5:37:41] Appreciate it. [5:37:42] I I'm really glad we're having [5:37:43] this conversation. [5:37:45] I think that zero based [5:37:46] budgeting has an opportunity to [5:37:51] be a more rigorous and I guess [5:37:56] honest way of building a budget [5:37:56] . [5:37:57] But it also brings me back to [5:37:58] something I said a couple weeks [5:38:02] ago and I probably will say in [5:38:07] a couple of hours and it we [5:38:08] need it We need to decide who [5:38:09] we want to be as a city first. [5:38:13] I don't know if this tool which [5:38:18] is how I see it can be yielded [5:38:24] will that as a as effectively [5:38:25] as it otherwise could be If we [5:38:26] haven't done that work to [5:38:30] determine what we should be [5:38:31] doing in the first place? [5:38:31] And I think that that was a [5:38:32] really important takeaway for [5:38:35] me and I think we're struggling [5:38:40] with that right now Without [5:38:41] that without us determining [5:38:47] what services are essential And [5:38:47] I appreciate the work that [5:38:48] COUNCILMAN Foster's doing to [5:38:52] kind of understand that [5:38:53] the answer to that question [5:38:53] from a from a legal sense But I [5:38:54] think there's a there's a even [5:38:58] broader question that goes [5:38:59] beyond the charter about who do [5:39:04] we want to be what we think is [5:39:04] essential to deliver to [5:39:05] the constituents, what outcomes [5:39:06] are we trying to achieve for [5:39:09] residents And then once we do [5:39:10] that we can start asking [5:39:10] ourselves okay, what are we [5:39:11] willing to stop doing to do [5:39:15] less of to to actually get [5:39:15] there? [5:39:16] And so I do really hope that we [5:39:21] have that conversation both as [5:39:22] a council and with the mayor in [5:39:23] this budget process in a way [5:39:27] that gives all of us and [5:39:33] the residents of the city a [5:39:34] clear sense of where we are [5:39:34] trying to go. [5:39:35] >> I do have just a couple of [5:39:38] questions and I don't know how [5:39:44] I'm much you are willing to [5:39:44] share right now. [5:39:49] Are there any programs or [5:39:50] service areas that the idea is [5:39:51] are most ripe for that sort of [5:39:51] scrutiny during this budget [5:39:54] cycle? [5:40:01] >> So very open ended question [5:40:02] to some extent everything [5:40:02] because if you're going to be [5:40:03] saying in a couple hours we are [5:40:07] going into this budget cycle [5:40:08] needing to fill $120 million [5:40:08] hole. [5:40:09] Yeah to that extent additional [5:40:10] scrutiny is important upon [5:40:13] every item I think some to [5:40:14] focus on our programs and [5:40:19] potentially the departments we [5:40:19] just simply have never [5:40:20] adequately funded asking [5:40:21] ourselves if those programs or [5:40:25] services are really essential. [5:40:25] If they are then we should [5:40:26] probably looking at adding [5:40:26] more. [5:40:30] If they're not then we should [5:40:31] probably be asking whether or [5:40:32] not we should continue to only [5:40:32] partially fund programs. [5:40:36] One of the interesting things [5:40:36] that you see from some of [5:40:37] the examples to be including [5:40:41] our own nearly ten years ago [5:40:42] now is that the cbp exercise [5:40:42] doesn't always lead to [5:40:48] expenditure reductions. [5:40:49] It often leads to folks looking [5:40:50] at a service level One thing [5:40:51] that terms of want and that [5:40:51] requires additional resources [5:40:57] beyond what we are doing today [5:40:58] That's one of the things that [5:40:59] we are likely to run into. [5:41:02] What we are again faced with is [5:41:03] a constrained and real lack of [5:41:04] resources to provide [5:41:04] the services that we are today. [5:41:09] So those discussions are going [5:41:10] to be particularly challenging. [5:41:14] Yeah, I appreciate that We [5:41:15] the 2017 pilot was mentioned [5:41:15] because I think it's actually [5:41:20] really indicative of how we got [5:41:20] to where we were at my opinion [5:41:21] at least we did a process that [5:41:26] said Oh we actually need to [5:41:26] resource things better and [5:41:27] rather than do that and have [5:41:28] that conversation we said How [5:41:31] about we just go back to our [5:41:32] old way of doing things which [5:41:33] is insufficiently funding [5:41:33] the things that we say are [5:41:38] super important to Charles You [5:41:39] want to respond to that part? [5:41:42] I the other question I had [5:41:43] there's this mention of [5:41:49] the decision packages often [5:41:49] being driven by management [5:41:50] preferences that didn't [5:41:51] necessarily reflect stakeholder [5:41:51] priorities. [5:41:55] Are there any what sort of of [5:41:56] community engagement would you [5:42:01] recommend to make sure that we [5:42:02] don't if we were to really, [5:42:03] really lean into zero based [5:42:07] budgeting that we don't make [5:42:08] that mistake habit in this over [5:42:13] my team but initially I would [5:42:14] say input sessions like you're [5:42:15] having now surveys like you're [5:42:19] going out it's a little bit [5:42:19] difficult because how many [5:42:20] people are always going to open [5:42:26] up an email from a city news [5:42:27] blast to respond to a survey. [5:42:27] But that's a that's important [5:42:30] input on what we believe our [5:42:31] citizens will likely want to [5:42:31] see the city do. [5:42:32] So to the extent that each of [5:42:37] the council members can reach [5:42:37] out to their communities to [5:42:38] figure out what those [5:42:38] priorities and programs are, I [5:42:43] think that that is important. [5:42:44] One note that I would note of [5:42:45] some of the drawbacks in here [5:42:50] including certain packages or [5:42:50] financial preferences that's a [5:42:51] drawback not just zero based [5:42:51] budgeting. [5:42:55] It's not exclusive through [5:42:56] based budgeting. [5:42:57] It's a drawback to almost any [5:42:57] budgeting system that you can [5:42:58] think of. [5:43:00] I don't think that there is a [5:43:01] perfect budgeting process or [5:43:01] system. [5:43:06] But that said, in terms of [5:43:07] trying to ensure that there's [5:43:07] additional stakeholder input [5:43:08] turn back to my team If they [5:43:09] have examples from some of [5:43:12] the cities that we talked with. [5:43:13] I would just add I think [5:43:14] the point that we're trying to [5:43:14] make there is that a lot of [5:43:18] the decision packages come kind [5:43:19] of from the lowest decision [5:43:24] making level possible that [5:43:25] could be at the division level [5:43:25] or even department level. [5:43:26] I think what we're trying to [5:43:31] say too is that there needs to [5:43:31] be input from the elected [5:43:36] officials level to make sure [5:43:36] that it does represent [5:43:37] the service levels that they [5:43:43] expect to be delivered as they [5:43:43] understand their public their [5:43:49] communities desires as well. [5:43:49] Got it. [5:43:50] To kind of bring us back to [5:43:51] the original question of who do [5:43:51] we want to be? [5:43:55] What is essential in our eyes [5:43:55] to deliver to our residents? [5:43:56] Thank you again for the work on [5:43:56] this. [5:44:00] Like I said, I think this is a [5:44:01] really important practice. [5:44:01] It's one that I'd like to see [5:44:02] us lean into more and I think [5:44:06] we will be selling ourselves [5:44:07] short in its utility until we [5:44:08] really articulate as a council [5:44:12] and alongside the mayor about [5:44:13] what it actually is that we're [5:44:13] trying to achieve as a city [5:44:17] the outcomes we want to deliver [5:44:18] . [5:44:18] We haven't hit the mark I don't [5:44:19] think in terms of clarity there [5:44:25] and I hope we do better on that [5:44:25] front. [5:44:26] >> Thank you, Council [5:44:26] PRESIDENT. [5:44:27] All right. [5:44:27] Thank you. [5:44:29] I will go next to Councilmember [5:44:30] Voldemort. [5:44:30] Thank you. [5:44:31] I'll be very quick. [5:44:31] I just want to thank you for [5:44:36] the training and the comparison [5:44:37] other cities and to know that [5:44:37] the cities are already doing [5:44:38] this in some regard. [5:44:38] One thing that does alarm me [5:44:42] about the good work you've been [5:44:43] doing is in the f y 2026 [5:44:48] impacts of the rule based [5:44:49] budgeting on external contracts [5:44:49] and services. [5:44:50] The good news is that the Board [5:44:54] of Finances figured out how to [5:44:55] lower our cost by 15.8 million [5:44:58] in decreased spending across 55 [5:44:59] accounts but we're still [5:44:59] outweighed by 20 million [5:45:02] The projected projected [5:45:03] increased spending in 40 [5:45:04] accounts and the net increase [5:45:04] is driven by inflation and [5:45:05] increased cost of doing [5:45:09] business And we see a similar [5:45:10] pattern projected for every 27. [5:45:15] So that's a huge problem for [5:45:15] us. [5:45:15] Are these contracts these [5:45:16] outside service contract [5:45:22] contracts that are going up in [5:45:23] the middle of the contract or [5:45:24] relocating them or the new [5:45:24] contracts are coming at a [5:45:27] higher price? [5:45:27] It's probably all the above [5:45:28] across all departments within [5:45:32] the general fund. [5:45:33] In some cases we are seeing, [5:45:34] you know, increased contractual [5:45:34] costs but then these [5:45:38] departments are not receiving [5:45:38] the adequate or appropriate [5:45:39] budget to support those [5:45:45] contracts. [5:45:45] Okay. [5:45:45] Got it. [5:45:46] I'd love to hear as we go into [5:45:47] this budget not love but it [5:45:47] would be important for me to [5:45:51] hear as you go into the budget [5:45:51] cycle about what's happening in [5:45:52] creating the tariff and [5:45:53] increase the cost of everything [5:45:56] around us And what's happening [5:45:57] with Donald Trump's war in [5:45:58] the Middle East is now causing [5:46:01] our energy prices to increase. [5:46:02] And so I just it's important [5:46:03] for us to realize what we're [5:46:08] dealing with externally that we [5:46:09] can't even control as we try [5:46:09] and budget. [5:46:10] This is quite alarming to see [5:46:13] how much our outside contracts [5:46:14] have had to increase due to [5:46:15] inflation the cost of business. [5:46:16] So thank you very much. [5:46:16] All right. [5:46:20] Thank you, gentlemen. [5:46:21] Not for anybody else in [5:46:25] the light I'll add okay. [5:46:30] >> I'll add my thanks for [5:46:31] the good work and trying to [5:46:37] break this down in a rather [5:46:38] brief training session to help [5:46:38] us kind of understand what [5:46:42] the opportunity is. [5:46:43] I think we'll continue to [5:46:44] struggle to look at a budget in [5:46:48] which we know that we're [5:46:49] actually underfunding [5:46:49] the programs and somehow [5:46:50] the departments make these [5:46:54] things work. [5:46:55] We also know much like [5:46:56] the earlier item it's not a [5:47:00] static situation If we could [5:47:01] just get it right we're not a [5:47:01] business where we say how many [5:47:06] widgets per hour do we need to [5:47:07] build to be able to make a [5:47:07] reasonable profit? [5:47:11] It's quite dynamic in terms of [5:47:12] what is happening out there [5:47:13] with our constituents, with our [5:47:18] infrastructure, what is [5:47:19] happening there with unfunded [5:47:19] mandates from the state or [5:47:23] the federal side changing [5:47:24] dynamics from whoever is [5:47:25] the elected official and what [5:47:29] their priorities are and what [5:47:30] our assets are all make that a [5:47:35] very challenging situation. [5:47:36] I guess the only thing I would [5:47:37] add in terms of what I think of [5:47:41] rather than to to a certain [5:47:42] degree zero based budgeting is [5:47:42] rather the confidence of each [5:47:47] level of management so that [5:47:48] given the size of our our [5:47:48] employee or the number of our [5:47:53] employees that there has to be [5:47:54] confident that each level when [5:47:54] the front line workers say [5:47:59] you're asking me to do this I [5:48:00] don't have the resources And my [5:48:01] favorite one to pick on is [5:48:05] Parks and Rec. [5:48:05] We don't increase our budget [5:48:06] and yet we keep approving new [5:48:07] parks and we somehow expect [5:48:11] them to maintain a service [5:48:12] level with no additional money [5:48:13] and with more acreage that they [5:48:17] have to maintain. [5:48:17] I'm not going to vote against [5:48:18] new parks because we're [5:48:19] typically going into our [5:48:23] under-resourced communities But [5:48:24] yet how can I look at Parks and [5:48:25] Rec and say you've got to cut [5:48:28] your budget to meet our [5:48:29] projected deficit? [5:48:30] And I think the other you know, [5:48:35] we're going to hear hopefully [5:48:36] we heard last time we did a 6 [5:48:40] P.M. We're going to hear [5:48:40] another one tonight And it's [5:48:41] mostly people going to talk [5:48:45] about what they want to save [5:48:46] and no one's going to say in [5:48:46] order to save this. [5:48:47] I want to cut that And I've [5:48:51] said it before and people don't [5:48:52] like it But if you just say [5:48:52] middle management it doesn't [5:48:53] tell me anything And I'm [5:48:56] looking forward to a more [5:48:57] detailed or greater insight [5:49:02] about our unclassified and what [5:49:03] that really means and what [5:49:09] portion that is of the of our [5:49:10] total budget and a little bit [5:49:10] of a spoiler. [5:49:11] It's a very tiny portion of our [5:49:15] budget And so that is not going [5:49:16] to be the solution But it's an [5:49:16] easy sound bite for people to [5:49:21] throw out there that doesn't [5:49:22] help us I think as council [5:49:23] members to figure out how we're [5:49:23] going to balance how we're [5:49:27] going to balance this budget [5:49:28] And I think it's not there but [5:49:33] the presentation I think is [5:49:33] very helpful. [5:49:34] I think it's going to be [5:49:34] helpful across all the council [5:49:38] members So we appreciate when [5:49:39] you and finance who as I've [5:49:40] said before I think are more [5:49:45] transparent than we've seen in [5:49:45] the past and we should [5:49:46] recognize that and leverage [5:49:51] that to be work with the ipa [5:49:52] does to try to distill all this [5:49:53] and put it in formats that are [5:49:56] a little more digestible by [5:49:56] the council members and our [5:49:57] staff in trying to make our [5:50:01] recommendations we have very [5:50:02] tough conversations over [5:50:03] the next few months and this is [5:50:08] helpful and trying to tackle [5:50:09] that. [5:50:09] So again I'll thank you for [5:50:10] that good work. [5:50:15] So with that again this was an [5:50:15] informational item and no [5:50:16] motions required And with that [5:50:16] we will now recess and [5:50:20] reconvene open session at 6 [5:52:55] P.M. Or shortly thereafter [5:53:35] Thank you. [5:53:40] All right all right Good [5:53:41] evening. [5:53:41] I will now reconvene the city [5:53:44] council meeting on Monday MARCH [5:53:45] 10th, 2026 to order Clerk [5:53:46] please please call the roll. [5:53:46] Thank you. [5:53:47] Council PRESIDENT Council [5:53:53] member Campbell Council Member [5:53:53] Whitburn here. [5:53:54] Council Member Foster here. [5:53:58] Council Member on Wolper [5:53:58] Present Council PRESIDENT Pro [5:54:02] Tem Lee Council Member Campo [5:54:03] Council Member Moreno Council [5:54:07] Member Ella Rivera and Council [5:54:08] PRESIDENT LaCava present Also [5:54:08] attending the meeting our Chief [5:54:12] Deputy City Attorney Brant [5:54:12] Barletta, independent budget [5:54:13] analyst Charles Monica and [5:54:16] myself your city Clerk Diana [5:54:17] Fuentes Thank you Council [5:54:18] PRESIDENT All right, Thank you. [5:54:21] With that please introduce item [5:54:21] 332. [5:54:22] Item 332 is an informational [5:54:26] item The hearing for public [5:54:27] input on the development of [5:54:30] the fiscal year 2027 budget. [5:54:31] If you're hearing council [5:54:31] chambers please be sure to [5:54:32] submit a speaker's up to [5:54:35] the front of the room And if [5:54:36] you're participating remotely [5:54:37] now's the time to raise your [5:54:37] hand Starting nine or the raise [5:54:38] your hand icon. [5:54:39] Thank you. [5:54:40] All right. [5:54:40] Thank you. [5:54:41] There won't be any formal [5:54:41] presentation. [5:54:44] I'll make some opening remarks. [5:54:45] I'll turn it over to Charles [5:54:46] Mollica, our independent budget [5:54:49] analyst and then he'll turn it [5:54:49] over to the chair of our budget [5:54:50] committee council member foster [5:54:53] And then we'll go straight to [5:54:54] public comment after that. [5:54:59] So we'll be running this as we [5:55:02] did the last opportunity for [5:55:03] the public on FEBRUARY 23rd Our [5:55:03] structural budget deficit has [5:55:07] been a problem grown over time [5:55:08] with decisions made at various [5:55:09] times to kick the can down [5:55:09] the road or take it off [5:55:13] the back So city employees with [5:55:13] consequences for service levels [5:55:14] Last year following [5:55:17] the rejection of the sales tax [5:55:17] measure, the council worked to [5:55:18] preserve essential services and [5:55:22] trim where possible To achieve [5:55:23] those service levels We raised [5:55:23] fines and shared more services [5:55:27] or cost recoverable and charged [5:55:28] for parking at Belmont Park. [5:55:32] Those were hard decisions and [5:55:32] not actions I wanted to do. [5:55:33] However, I did make those [5:55:37] decisions in a vacuum. [5:55:37] I did not make those decisions [5:55:38] in a vacuum but instead [5:55:41] considered the tradeoff impacts [5:55:42] to rec centers, libraries and [5:55:43] public restrooms which would [5:55:46] have had to have been closed [5:55:47] for this fiscal year. [5:55:47] There are no feasible new [5:55:51] revenue sources in my opinion [5:55:52] and we must get serious about [5:55:57] cuts. [5:55:57] Ultimately if I'm going to [5:55:58] support an expenditure I have [5:55:59] to balance it with either a [5:56:01] revenue increase or by cutting [5:56:01] another service. [5:56:02] Conversely, if I'm going to [5:56:05] support cutting or eliminating [5:56:06] ongoing revenue I need to see a [5:56:10] replacement revenue or further [5:56:11] cuts of expenditures. [5:56:11] And for the public listening [5:56:15] tonight and participating I ask [5:56:16] you for your assistance to [5:56:16] identify where to cut. [5:56:20] That's a tough thing for us to [5:56:21] sit up here and make an ask [5:56:24] where to cut, what services do [5:56:25] we provide that are no longer a [5:56:26] priority to you so that we can [5:56:29] preserve the services that are [5:56:30] important to you. [5:56:31] We have to balance a budget and [5:56:35] a priority needs to come with a [5:56:36] priority reduction. [5:56:39] This will be that easy but I [5:56:39] believe that we can and will do [5:56:40] this together. [5:56:43] And with that I'll close. [5:56:44] Thank you for participating [5:56:45] tonight either here in person [5:56:49] or remotely and I'll turn it [5:56:49] over to our independent budget [5:56:50] analyst Charles Monica. [5:56:50] Sir. [5:56:51] Right. [5:56:51] Thank you. [5:56:53] Council PRESIDENT Council [5:56:54] members So this is [5:56:54] the council's second evening [5:56:58] meeting to hear public input on [5:56:59] the upcoming budget Given [5:57:00] the deficit that we are facing, [5:57:00] the next several months are [5:57:03] going to involve a number of [5:57:04] very difficult conversations [5:57:05] and decisions. [5:57:08] As I noted at our initial [5:57:08] hearing context is important [5:57:09] both for council and the public [5:57:13] to understand how we got here [5:57:14] and so that both counsel [5:57:17] the public can have realistic [5:57:18] expectations as we move into [5:57:18] those difficult budget [5:57:22] discussions. [5:57:23] As my office has noted for some [5:57:24] time the city has been facing [5:57:26] significant fiscal challenges [5:57:27] for years. [5:57:27] The challenges that we face [5:57:28] today have been decades in [5:57:31] the making. [5:57:32] While San Diego is a large and [5:57:33] major city, its revenues are [5:57:36] generally lower than comparable [5:57:37] cities. [5:57:37] The taxes that the city does [5:57:41] charge notably sales taxes and [5:57:42] hotel taxes are lower sometimes [5:57:42] significantly so than our peer [5:57:46] cities and there are a number [5:57:47] of taxes and fees that the city [5:57:48] does not charge at all such as [5:57:51] parking taxes, utility users [5:57:51] taxes and general obligation [5:57:55] bond related property taxes [5:57:56] that other cities often do. [5:57:57] The proportion of taxes paid by [5:58:01] city residents that goes to [5:58:01] the city is also low For every [5:58:05] dollar paid in property tax, [5:58:06] only $0.18 comes back to [5:58:06] the city For every dollar paid [5:58:10] in the sales tax only $0.13 [5:58:11] comes back to the city And for [5:58:15] every dollar paid in income tax [5:58:15] no money comes directly back to [5:58:19] the city Which means that while [5:58:20] the city is tasked with [5:58:20] providing some of the most [5:58:21] commonly seen and expected [5:58:24] public services streets, parks, [5:58:25] police libraries the city also [5:58:29] receives a relatively small [5:58:30] proportion of tax dollars to [5:58:34] provide those services. [5:58:35] Given the lack of any [5:58:36] additional revenues dedicated [5:58:39] to the city it needs to be [5:58:40] understood that the city's [5:58:40] ongoing resources are [5:58:41] insufficient to support its [5:58:44] current operations. [5:58:45] The city has been able to get [5:58:46] by for the last 20 years or so [5:58:49] by keeping its costs low [5:58:50] largely through putting off [5:58:51] infrastructure maintenance and [5:58:54] keeping city salaries well [5:58:55] below the median for comparable [5:58:55] cities in our region. [5:58:58] Both of those have had long [5:58:59] term consequences and long term [5:59:03] costs. [5:59:04] The city did start making [5:59:05] progress on infrastructure [5:59:08] repair and city salaries over [5:59:09] the last several years but we [5:59:09] were only able to do so by [5:59:12] tapping into significant one [5:59:13] time resources that have since [5:59:14] been exhausted. [5:59:18] The city attempted to respond [5:59:18] to this longstanding structural [5:59:21] deficit through the 2024 [5:59:21] measure e sales tax measure but [5:59:22] that ballot item failed and it [5:59:26] left the city with a real need [5:59:26] to realign its ongoing services [5:59:30] with its ongoing resources. [5:59:31] And that's where we are today [5:59:32] and that's really where we've [5:59:34] been for the last two years. [5:59:35] Last year about this time we [5:59:38] were facing a $260 million [5:59:39] deficit which we closed through [5:59:43] totaling reserve contributions [5:59:44] of about 60 million of [5:59:47] implementing roughly $100 [5:59:48] million in new revenues and [5:59:49] fees to offset expenses that [5:59:49] would have otherwise fallen to [5:59:53] the general fund And by making [5:59:53] about $100 million in painful [5:59:57] cuts to city services such as [5:59:58] library hours this year we are [5:59:58] also facing a significant [6:00:02] deficit for the upcoming year [6:00:05] of roughly 100 to $120 million [6:00:06] and that reflects continued [6:00:06] delays to reserve contributions [6:00:10] New revenue sources that we [6:00:11] expanded over the last year [6:00:11] have at this point also been [6:00:16] tapped And the appetite for new [6:00:16] revenues in the immediate [6:00:17] future seems limited which [6:00:20] means that the projected [6:00:21] deficit we face today will have [6:00:21] to be closed by and large [6:00:25] through cuts. [6:00:26] Finding enough cuts to close [6:00:26] that deficit will be hard but [6:00:30] by law the city's budgets need [6:00:31] to be balanced and we cannot [6:00:31] spend money that we do not have [6:00:35] to begin accounting for [6:00:35] the city's long term needs [6:00:36] especially its long deferred [6:00:40] infrastructure needs New [6:00:40] revenue will ultimately be [6:00:41] required But as we move into [6:00:44] the fy 27 budget process we [6:00:44] need to ensure that our [6:00:45] expenditures match the revenues [6:00:49] that we already have in hand [6:00:50] today. [6:00:50] To that end, as we have [6:00:51] discussions tonight and as we [6:00:55] continue to discuss the budget [6:00:55] over the next several months, [6:00:56] we need to be realistic about [6:00:59] what we can fund with [6:01:00] the resources that we have and [6:01:00] we should focus our [6:01:01] conversations on a core [6:01:05] services that the Council and [6:01:06] the public want to see [6:01:06] maintained and frankly areas [6:01:10] where the city can afford to or [6:01:11] needs to pull back on or reduce [6:01:15] services. [6:01:15] This will be difficult but [6:01:16] necessary conversations. [6:01:16] And to that end I look forward [6:01:20] to hearing comments tonight [6:01:20] from the Council and from [6:01:21] the public without pitched over [6:01:27] to Councilmember Foster. [6:01:32] Thank you Charles for those [6:01:32] comments. [6:01:33] I thank you. [6:01:37] Council PRESIDENT, for [6:01:38] convening this meeting and [6:01:39] thank you to the community for [6:01:42] being here tonight. [6:01:43] I cannot say this enough This [6:01:47] is a tough budget cycle and we [6:01:48] cannot continue business as [6:01:48] usual. [6:01:49] And as the mayor prepares his [6:01:52] proposed budget, it's critical [6:01:53] that staffing services and [6:01:57] resources are aligned [6:01:57] efficiently and that any [6:01:58] adjustments are communicated [6:02:02] clearly to residents. [6:02:03] Reductions must be strategic, [6:02:06] proportional and protect core [6:02:07] services such as public safety, [6:02:08] clean streets and functioning [6:02:13] libraries, parks and recreation [6:02:13] centers. [6:02:14] For me equity remains a guiding [6:02:18] principle and we must apply it [6:02:18] carefully as we make difficult [6:02:19] decisions and the public's [6:02:23] voice is essential during this [6:02:24] process. [6:02:24] So I strongly encourage [6:02:25] residents to complete [6:02:28] the mayor's budget survey and [6:02:29] to be vocal about your [6:02:29] priorities and reduction [6:02:34] recommendations. [6:02:35] Your input matters and it will [6:02:35] help shape a budget that [6:02:38] balances fiscal responsibility [6:02:39] with community needs. [6:02:39] And tonight is another [6:02:40] opportunity to share your [6:02:44] feedback. [6:02:45] Additional public comment [6:02:45] meetings will be held on MAY [6:02:48] 4th and MAY 18th. [6:02:49] So please mark your calendars [6:02:49] and please participate. [6:02:53] There are challenging choices [6:02:54] ahead but together with [6:02:57] community input the city can [6:02:58] build a budget that is [6:02:59] equitable, effective and [6:03:03] protects the services families [6:03:03] in this. [6:03:04] And protects the services [6:03:05] families in this city rely on. [6:03:09] I look forward to hearing [6:03:10] public comment and again as my [6:03:14] colleagues have said earlier [6:03:15] today, this truly is about what [6:03:20] type of San Diego do we want to [6:03:20] be. [6:03:21] And Council PRESIDENT That [6:03:24] concludes my comments. [6:03:25] And again, thank you for [6:03:26] holding this hearing. [6:03:26] Thank you, sir. [6:03:30] And thank you for your leading [6:03:30] the Budget Committee [6:03:31] conversations with that clerk. [6:03:35] Please proceed with public [6:03:35] comment. [6:03:35] Thank you. [6:03:36] Council PRESIDENT. [6:03:37] We do have several speakers [6:03:40] here and online. [6:03:41] We'll be going down to a minute [6:03:42] and a half. [6:03:46] Jacob Daughtry, if you can [6:03:47] please come forward to [6:03:47] the microphone after that if I [6:03:48] can have the following [6:03:52] individuals please come forward [6:03:53] to the yellow reserved seats. [6:03:56] Kelly Nephew Stephen Schmoke, [6:03:57] Katherine Titans Ramsey and [6:03:57] Liliana Soriano. [6:04:01] If you can all please come up [6:04:02] to the front row and you can [6:04:02] begin when ready. [6:04:07] Good evening Counsel My name is [6:04:08] Jacob Forte and I work for [6:04:08] the San Diego lgbt Community [6:04:09] Center. [6:04:13] I need to continue to fund [6:04:13] the center's prevention work [6:04:14] through the opioid settlement [6:04:17] funds or any other funds that [6:04:18] are available. [6:04:18] Our community is being [6:04:19] abandoned at the federal level. [6:04:23] Lgbtq helpless individuals are [6:04:24] dying from opioids at higher [6:04:25] rates not because of who they [6:04:28] are but because of how [6:04:29] the world has treated them. [6:04:30] Trauma, family rejection and [6:04:30] the stress that comes from [6:04:33] being part of idealized. [6:04:34] These aren't just talking [6:04:34] points. [6:04:35] These are the reasons why [6:04:38] people walk through our doors. [6:04:39] According to the National [6:04:43] Institute on Drug Abuse, 6.7% [6:04:43] of lgbtq adults misused [6:04:44] prescription opioids or heroin [6:04:48] in the past year compared to [6:04:49] just 3.6% of the general [6:04:49] population. [6:04:49] Nearly double. [6:04:53] And yet only 28% of treatment [6:04:54] facilities in this country [6:04:58] offer any lgbtq plus specific [6:04:59] services. [6:04:59] The center provides affirming [6:05:04] trauma informed care that works [6:05:05] because it needs people and [6:05:05] their full identity. [6:05:06] The federal government has made [6:05:10] it clear what their position is [6:05:11] and now this Council must [6:05:11] continue to step up for our [6:05:12] community. [6:05:12] Thank you. [6:05:13] Yield back. [6:05:14] Thank you. [6:05:20] Next is Karina. [6:05:21] >> Good evening, council [6:05:21] members. [6:05:22] My name is Corinne a few and [6:05:25] their pronouns are she her? [6:05:26] On behalf of the San Diego lgbt [6:05:27] Community Center I request [6:05:31] continued funding through [6:05:31] the Opioid Settlement Fund or [6:05:32] other funds available to [6:05:32] the Center Substance Use [6:05:36] Disorder Prevention and [6:05:37] Education Work. [6:05:37] Research shows that lgbtq plus [6:05:38] folks particularly our youth [6:05:42] are at a higher risk of using [6:05:43] and abusing substances that [6:05:43] there's this gender [6:05:48] heterosexual peers. [6:05:48] The center's work around [6:05:49] substance use disorder revolves [6:05:50] around prevention and education [6:05:52] acknowledging that effective [6:05:53] intervention begins before [6:05:54] opioid use even becomes [6:05:54] problematic. [6:05:58] The center's strategy directly [6:05:59] addresses the root causes that [6:06:00] are significant risk factors [6:06:00] for substance abuse youth [6:06:04] disorder including minority [6:06:04] stress, family rejection and [6:06:05] trauma all of which [6:06:10] disproportionately affect lgbtq [6:06:10] plus individuals especially our [6:06:11] youth. [6:06:11] At a time where our federal [6:06:12] government continues to [6:06:15] threaten funding to lgbtq [6:06:16] serving organizations, we call [6:06:17] upon our city leaders to [6:06:22] continue to boldly invest in [6:06:23] the center affirming culturally [6:06:24] competent services that mirror [6:06:24] communities where they are at. [6:06:26] Thank you. [6:06:32] Thank you, Steve and Jamal. [6:06:38] I'm Stephen Small While I am [6:06:38] involved with the friends of [6:06:39] the San Diego Public Library [6:06:40] and the Friends of the North [6:06:44] Park Library, I I'm speaking [6:06:45] tonight as an individual. [6:06:45] Thank you by the way for [6:06:46] the opportunity to present my [6:06:49] comments. [6:06:50] San Diego will not be a first [6:06:50] class city if its libraries and [6:06:55] rec centers are only open some [6:06:55] of the time the mayor and his [6:07:00] staff simply don't get it when [6:07:01] they use All right words about [6:07:06] libraries and rec centers their [6:07:07] actions and that is what counts [6:07:11] All the sacrifice libraries and [6:07:12] rec centers for other budget [6:07:12] priorities. [6:07:13] But the council has recognized [6:07:18] the importance of libraries and [6:07:18] rec centers in the past and it [6:07:19] can do so again. [6:07:23] Please consider making small [6:07:24] cuts in the budget for police [6:07:29] fire And yes, your staff's so [6:07:29] that all libraries and rec [6:07:30] centers regardless of what [6:07:35] overall cuts they MAY have to [6:07:35] take can be open for decent [6:07:36] hours. [6:07:40] Seven days a week. [6:07:41] That is a core service. [6:07:41] Thank you. [6:07:43] Thank you. [6:07:49] Next is Catherine. [6:07:50] Good evening. [6:07:50] I'm Catherine Terrence and I'm [6:07:56] a member of the River library [6:07:56] in the area. [6:07:57] I believe that libraries are [6:07:57] the great equalizers in our [6:08:01] society. [6:08:02] It is essential that all 37 [6:08:03] branches of our library stay [6:08:06] open seven days of the week so [6:08:07] that all can use them to learn [6:08:08] to study, to find an internet [6:08:12] connection and to prosper. [6:08:13] When we fund the libraries we [6:08:13] are telling young people and [6:08:17] other students that they matter [6:08:18] and that we care about their [6:08:18] future. [6:08:19] Thank you very much. [6:08:33] Thank you Ramsey. [6:08:34] So at the last budget [6:08:35] discussion I kind of went on a [6:08:35] little bit of a tangent about [6:08:39] immigration rights and I didn't [6:08:39] have any budget solutions to [6:08:40] add to that. [6:08:45] But what I really want to see [6:08:45] this year is what I had [6:08:46] the idea of doing is instead of [6:08:52] having a direct way to you [6:08:52] know, use general fund to pay [6:08:57] for funding our defense for [6:08:58] detainees and ice detention or [6:08:58] legal observers are also being [6:08:59] harassed by the federal [6:08:59] administration. [6:09:04] I have I had an internal [6:09:05] conflict of if I wanted you [6:09:05] guys to fund that directly [6:09:06] the fences or what to do with [6:09:10] that So what I think the best [6:09:11] solution in this case is to use [6:09:11] the existing civilian resources [6:09:15] like the media pages, like [6:09:16] the staff resources and [6:09:16] whatever We have to first of [6:09:22] all verify groups that have [6:09:22] links to these are to [6:09:27] the immigrants and verify that [6:09:28] they are real Because I did [6:09:29] have conversations with people [6:09:29] at meetings that want to make [6:09:30] donations but they also don't [6:09:33] know for sure what are valid [6:09:34] links, what are about [6:09:35] the people to donate to. [6:09:35] So if we have some city staff [6:09:39] working on that I would be [6:09:40] great. [6:09:40] Also from the mayor this [6:09:41] morning he posted a graphic [6:09:45] saying overall crime dropped by [6:09:45] 6.3%. [6:09:46] Voters decreased by 25% and [6:09:50] crimes against person by 3.2%. [6:09:50] General trends is the crime [6:09:56] across all across all levels is [6:09:56] decreasing. [6:09:57] I'd be great if we could reduce [6:09:57] some of that apd budget and [6:09:58] move it towards immigration [6:10:03] protection. [6:10:03] >> Thank you. [6:10:04] Thank you. [6:10:08] This is live unit So you know [6:10:08] after Liliana Blair Beckman [6:10:16] Andrew Banner Natalia Natalie [6:10:17] Roski and Edward of all to if [6:10:18] you can please come up to [6:10:18] the other resources at [6:10:21] the front please proceed. [6:10:21] Thank you. [6:10:22] Hi Counsel My name is Liam [6:10:22] Soriano and I serve as [6:10:23] the director of policy at [6:10:23] YouthBuild. [6:10:26] We are a youth advocacy [6:10:26] organization and today I am [6:10:27] honored to represent young [6:10:28] people many from throughout [6:10:32] your districts. [6:10:32] Truly young people cannot [6:10:33] afford for programs to be cut [6:10:34] That includes libraries, parks [6:10:38] and rec centers since they're [6:10:39] the home of many of those [6:10:39] programs. [6:10:40] I also specifically want to [6:10:43] elevate the opportunity to [6:10:44] support the Office of Child [6:10:45] Abuse success in your [6:10:45] individual memos. [6:10:46] Their existence is critical for [6:10:50] youth to thrive in this city. [6:10:51] Lastly, I do acknowledge [6:10:51] the budget deficit and under [6:10:55] the same breath we need to [6:10:56] acknowledge the current [6:10:56] economic crisis many families [6:10:57] face or will face with [6:11:01] the situation that's going on [6:11:02] in our country And many of [6:11:03] the constituents are struggling [6:11:08] economically and so are their [6:11:08] children. [6:11:09] Therefore it is imperative to [6:11:09] support young people. [6:11:10] Please continue to support [6:11:14] youth and I look forward to [6:11:14] meeting with all of your [6:11:15] officers individually. [6:11:15] Thank you. [6:11:16] Thank you. [6:11:20] Blair Wickman All right. [6:11:25] Thank you And thank you for [6:11:26] the beginning words of [6:11:27] Councilperson pastor and how to [6:11:27] frame our conversation. [6:11:32] I think I hope we can be good [6:11:32] for ourselves in the coming [6:11:37] year. [6:11:38] I wanted to work on just some [6:11:43] overall broad brushstrokes of [6:11:43] how my idealism what I want to [6:11:48] be thinking and working towards [6:11:49] to begin. [6:11:50] I hope we can continue to have [6:11:55] I can continue to have open [6:11:56] conversations with customers in [6:11:56] the club and the council [6:12:00] persons themselves about [6:12:01] revenues and the use of general [6:12:06] fund issues versus specific [6:12:07] goals of things like parking [6:12:07] fees. [6:12:08] I hope that we can continue an [6:12:08] open conversation on [6:12:12] the subject and work together [6:12:13] towards a good narrative. [6:12:13] So I think we all can be [6:12:18] eventually agreeable upon Good [6:12:19] luck how we can do that It's [6:12:20] important to figure that out as [6:12:24] a full community process and I [6:12:25] wouldn't be trusting and non [6:12:26] fearful I think of budget [6:12:30] issues before pre-covid we were [6:12:31] really working on a future that [6:12:35] was creating new funding [6:12:36] program and funding streams [6:12:37] that were really inventive and [6:12:37] creative. [6:12:41] Covid changed that and we're [6:12:42] back into the regular patterns [6:12:43] of you know, getting a lot of [6:12:44] money and then taxing everybody [6:12:44] for it. [6:12:48] I hope we really work on [6:12:49] different ways to be funding [6:12:50] things in the future. [6:12:50] >> It takes a lot of creative [6:12:51] effort. [6:12:51] Good luck. [6:12:51] Teamwork. [6:12:54] Thank you. [6:12:54] >> Thank you. [6:12:59] Next we have Andrew Benner this [6:12:59] . [6:13:06] >> Good evening Council members [6:13:06] . [6:13:06] Thank you. [6:13:07] COUNCILMAN Henry Foster along [6:13:08] with council members I support [6:13:08] a kind of a social equity [6:13:12] program along with the mayor's [6:13:12] office. [6:13:13] My name's Andrew but yes, I'm [6:13:13] 39 years old, born and raised [6:13:17] in south San Diego District [6:13:17] four I'm here to speak in [6:13:18] strong support of the cannabis [6:13:19] social equity program. [6:13:23] For too long the war on drugs [6:13:23] disproportionately target [6:13:24] communities of color and caused [6:13:25] generational harm. [6:13:29] Now that this industry is legal [6:13:30] is only just that those same [6:13:31] communities have a fair shot at [6:13:32] the economic opportunities they [6:13:35] create. [6:13:36] We need more than just a plan [6:13:36] on paper. [6:13:37] We need funded technical [6:13:37] assistance and bid waivers to [6:13:41] bring down the high barriers to [6:13:42] entry. [6:13:42] We need more licenses. [6:13:43] Please prioritize and fully [6:13:44] fund these equity measures to [6:13:47] ensure San Diego's cannabis [6:13:48] industry is inclusive and just [6:13:49] And I urge the Council to fully [6:13:54] fund and prioritize these [6:13:55] equity measures to ensure [6:13:55] Santiago's cannabis industry is [6:13:59] as diverse and resilient as [6:13:59] the city itself. [6:13:59] >> Thank you. [6:14:00] Thank you. [6:14:05] Next is Natalie Raskin. [6:14:06] >> Hi Natalie Rafiki Thank you [6:14:06] for hearing me today. [6:14:11] So I have a couple ideas or [6:14:11] after doing research it says [6:14:12] the city auditor found that 13% [6:14:13] of the police calls were [6:14:17] reviewed and could have gone to [6:14:18] police investigative service [6:14:23] officers instead of regular [6:14:23] police officers which would [6:14:28] have led to 100 shows cost [6:14:28] about 2.8 million to 10 million [6:14:33] less per year. [6:14:39] >> Cutting floc is another idea [6:14:39] . [6:14:40] Might be it be cut So [6:14:41] potentially I'll be homeless [6:14:44] again and I don't really think [6:14:45] that this is what they should [6:14:51] be doing to people. [6:14:52] This seems like excessive [6:14:52] excessive time ticketing make a [6:14:53] some. [6:14:57] These are just some and with a [6:14:57] safe parking lot that allows [6:15:02] our bees that are not overnight [6:15:03] I'm looking at reliving this so [6:15:07] instead of police officers [6:15:08] being able to be somewhere [6:15:14] besides harassing people that [6:15:15] MAY be women in their vehicles [6:15:15] because the bees have gotten [6:15:19] cut, I think cutting some of [6:15:20] their overtime and suggesting [6:15:26] what I researched about that [6:15:26] police and investigative [6:15:27] service officers. [6:15:27] Thank you. [6:15:31] Thank you. [6:15:32] If we can please have a word [6:15:37] about this to. [6:15:38] >> Good evening Council [6:15:38] members. [6:15:42] My name is of automotive staff [6:15:43] Cannabis Social equity is [6:15:44] important to the city of San [6:15:44] Diego because legalization [6:15:48] should not only create revenue [6:15:49] for those already positioned to [6:15:50] benefit, it should also create [6:15:55] opportunity for the people and [6:15:56] communities that were most [6:15:56] harmed by prohibition. [6:15:57] For years cannabis laws were [6:16:00] enforced in ways that [6:16:01] devastated families, limited [6:16:02] economic mobility and left [6:16:02] lasting damage in neighborhoods [6:16:07] that are still trying to [6:16:08] recover. [6:16:08] Now the cannabis is a legal and [6:16:09] profitable industry. [6:16:12] San Diego has a responsibility [6:16:13] to make sure equity is not [6:16:14] treated like an afterthought. [6:16:19] A real social equity program [6:16:19] means access to business [6:16:20] opportunities, job creation and [6:16:21] pathways to ownership for [6:16:25] people who were shut out of [6:16:26] shut out for generations. [6:16:26] Pardon me. [6:16:27] It means recognizing that [6:16:31] justice is not just about [6:16:31] ending harmful policies but [6:16:32] also repairing the damage was [6:16:33] caused. [6:16:36] San Diego should be leading on [6:16:37] this issue not falling behind [6:16:37] If we're serious about [6:16:38] fairness, inclusion and [6:16:43] economic opportunity then we [6:16:44] must create a system that gives [6:16:44] impacted communities a real [6:16:45] chance to participate and [6:16:48] succeed. [6:16:49] Social equity is not a favor. [6:16:50] It is a necessary step towards [6:16:50] justice. [6:16:54] Thank you. [6:16:55] Thank you. [6:16:55] That does conclude public [6:16:56] comment here in Council [6:17:01] chambers We are having some [6:17:01] technical difficulties with [6:17:02] the chair timer so I am going [6:17:03] to be sharing the screen myself [6:17:05] and doing it as a one stop shop [6:17:06] So please bear with me on [6:17:17] the shared okay okay Starting [6:17:23] with we have six people in [6:17:24] the queue I've started the five [6:17:25] minute timer starting with [6:17:25] Katherine Douglas. [6:17:28] If you can please unmute you'll [6:17:29] have a minute and a half. [6:17:29] Thank you. [6:17:34] It goes without saying that [6:17:34] public safety is your number [6:17:35] one responsibility. [6:17:36] Chief Paul announced amazing [6:17:40] numbers yesterday at a press [6:17:40] conference and the only way to [6:17:41] maintain those and even improve [6:17:46] on those is to continue to [6:17:46] fully fund public safety. [6:17:52] It affects everything all [6:17:53] persons in all parts of our [6:17:58] city as we work on the 2027 [6:17:58] budget you must start a fresh [6:17:59] zero based budget based [6:18:03] budgeting across the board [6:18:04] there's a need for more [6:18:05] frontline workers and less [6:18:05] middle management. [6:18:09] Many say they should be [6:18:10] outsourced to experts who can [6:18:10] do the job for less. [6:18:14] San Diego deserve an honest [6:18:15] assessment of our pension [6:18:16] liabilities, the structural [6:18:16] deficit and the real cost of [6:18:21] deferred infrastructure Not [6:18:22] assumptions, not optimistic [6:18:27] projections Real numbers. [6:18:28] Pension obligations must be [6:18:28] honored but failing to plan for [6:18:33] them responsibly defends [6:18:33] the deficit. [6:18:34] Delaying infrastructure repairs [6:18:35] only guarantees higher costs [6:18:39] later and without a clear [6:18:40] financial picture, budgeting [6:18:41] becomes guesswork Instead of [6:18:44] stewardship. [6:18:45] This isn't about blame. [6:18:46] It's about accountability. [6:18:51] Before raising taxes, cutting [6:18:52] services or approving new [6:18:53] programs show the public [6:18:57] exactly where the city stands. [6:18:58] This is a minimum standard for [6:18:58] responsible governments. [6:19:05] No more guesswork that has seen [6:19:05] disastrous results such as [6:19:06] the trash in the Balboa Park. [6:19:07] Thank you for that. [6:19:10] Including comment Your time has [6:19:11] concluded. [6:19:11] And next is Hector. [6:19:16] If you can please unmute. [6:19:16] >> All right. [6:19:22] Thanks for taking my call. [6:19:23] It's going to be a tough budget [6:19:24] cuts and I think all the budget [6:19:29] cuts anything south of 94 [6:19:29] freeway at one hour there [6:19:35] anything north of the freeway [6:19:35] you got to cut three hours or [6:19:36] three times more. [6:19:39] One cut down in the south gets [6:19:40] four cuts or three cuts in [6:19:46] the north. [6:19:46] The south has been neglected [6:19:47] for decades. [6:19:48] Just passing law anything What [6:19:51] is libraries Bathroom clean [6:19:52] Whatever it is sidewalks get [6:19:57] put in north of 94 you got to [6:19:58] put three sidewalks in south of [6:19:58] 94. [6:20:03] So I kind of do it that way. [6:20:04] Plus I think we should go a [6:20:04] different direction. [6:20:09] You could think Donald Trump [6:20:10] and ice with the drop in [6:20:10] the crime rate everyone's [6:20:15] afraid to get deported so [6:20:16] they're not doing the legal [6:20:16] stuff. [6:20:17] So they came in and then we got [6:20:21] to have a new committee. [6:20:21] It's coming When the vice [6:20:22] PRESIDENT Shows up for that [6:20:23] broad thing we could have a new [6:20:26] committees the rapid [6:20:27] deportation Committee and get [6:20:30] rid of the 80,000 guys on on [6:20:31] welfare that are illegal aliens [6:20:37] and no more money to the law [6:20:38] firms for illegal aliens $1 [6:20:43] million Let them do it pro bono [6:20:44] But we should not be giving [6:20:44] legal fees to illegal aliens. [6:20:45] They're not they're not [6:20:49] American citizens. [6:20:49] That's your number one. [6:20:50] Thanks. [6:20:50] Protect the American citizens. [6:20:55] It's simple as that. [6:20:55] That's the number one rule. [6:20:56] Thank you. [6:20:56] Thank you. [6:20:58] Next is the original If you can [6:21:05] please unmute. [6:21:06] >> Wow what a perfect time to [6:21:06] say. [6:21:07] That's pretty interesting [6:21:11] because you guys want to know [6:21:12] what you think You should cut [6:21:13] your salaries, you should cut [6:21:13] the mayor salary. [6:21:14] You should cut all the people [6:21:16] who work ensuring that nothing [6:21:17] gets done around us, their [6:21:18] salaries get cut but then you [6:21:22] can go into your private action [6:21:23] plan where you guys are [6:21:24] implementing things that have [6:21:24] nothing to do with saving [6:21:25] the planet Even though that you [6:21:28] were perpetrating. [6:21:29] And so that's the case And go [6:21:30] ahead and cut all of those [6:21:35] things because it is impeding [6:21:36] your ability to provide housing [6:21:36] to get people off the streets. [6:21:40] It is impeding our ability to [6:21:41] travel all under the guise of [6:21:42] saving the planet while you [6:21:46] guys refuse to acknowledge all [6:21:46] of the things that are [6:21:47] happening in [6:21:47] the geoengineering, the cloud [6:21:52] seeding and things that took [6:21:52] place in JANUARY 2021. [6:21:53] So you guys sit here and you [6:21:57] want to act like you know [6:21:58] you're doing things that are [6:21:59] bettering our community when in [6:21:59] fact you're not you're spending [6:22:03] money that isn't going towards [6:22:04] what it should. [6:22:04] We already saw that you guys [6:22:05] need like $5 billion just to [6:22:06] make up for the storm [6:22:10] infrastructure because it's [6:22:10] like 150 year old problem. [6:22:11] I mean when are you guys [6:22:12] actually going to use our money [6:22:16] wisely and not take the money [6:22:17] that people worked very hard [6:22:18] for and throw it away? [6:22:19] I mean you throw it into your [6:22:23] pockets in your friend's [6:22:23] pockets but it's like I mean [6:22:24] and then you come out to [6:22:25] the people for more money. [6:22:25] When is that going to stop When [6:22:28] you actually going to do your [6:22:29] job and not make people like [6:22:34] cry like that Because they're [6:22:35] just wanting to survive in [6:22:36] the community that you are [6:22:36] pretending to protect. [6:22:41] You're time has concluded and [6:22:41] has a five minute timer. [6:22:42] There are six speakers in [6:22:43] the queue and no additional [6:22:46] speakers will be taken after [6:22:47] the Gambler If you can please [6:22:52] unmute. [6:22:59] Gambari can I go and gamble [6:22:59] here? [6:23:03] Well I understand that you guys [6:23:04] got the money cut to go ahead [6:23:05] and do the infrastructure and [6:23:10] all that stuff and so you had [6:23:10] to go to different programs in [6:23:15] that. [6:23:16] I don't understand why you keep [6:23:17] on trying to tax That's why you [6:23:22] don't investigate the programs [6:23:22] that you have, why you don't [6:23:23] even look back at the rules [6:23:24] that we put in and see whether [6:23:29] or not that they work. [6:23:30] All we're trying to do is [6:23:30] continuously put Band-Aids on [6:23:31] and I can go on and tell you [6:23:34] how you can make money right [6:23:34] now for the county but you [6:23:35] don't have to. [6:23:40] Texas adopt technology and [6:23:41] landfills and we could start [6:23:45] making like $150 million a year [6:23:45] for the county of San Diego. [6:23:46] We can go ahead and fix our [6:23:51] infrastructure. [6:23:51] We don't have to rely on taxing [6:23:52] people when we could just [6:23:57] recycle our plastic and turn it [6:23:58] into basically money fuel [6:24:02] graphene and we could in our [6:24:03] infrastructure it's not that [6:24:03] difficult. [6:24:04] But instead do you want to go [6:24:09] ahead and find a way to cut [6:24:10] money from the people that are [6:24:10] struggling the most which is [6:24:13] only going to cost one thing [6:24:14] and one thing only? [6:24:15] You needed to put more money to [6:24:15] help more people out. [6:24:19] There are organizations that [6:24:20] you have focus on illegal [6:24:20] immigrants. [6:24:21] You send so much money of our [6:24:24] money to illegal immigrants You [6:24:30] want to go out and clean this [6:24:31] dirt on how much we lose from [6:24:31] all this. [6:24:35] >> Your time has concluded. [6:24:36] Next speaker is Becky Rapp. [6:24:42] If you can please unmute. [6:24:42] Good evening. [6:24:43] My name is Becky. [6:24:48] And tonight I would like to [6:24:48] speak to the proposed expansion [6:24:49] of the feed program and [6:24:50] the serious financial concerns [6:24:55] it raises for the city of San [6:24:55] Diego. [6:24:56] City was already facing a [6:24:59] significant budget deficit at a [6:25:00] time when our city's finances [6:25:00] are fragile. [6:25:01] Every decision involving public [6:25:06] resources should be scrutinized [6:25:06] to the highest level. [6:25:07] Programs like Feed require [6:25:07] staff oversight, permitting [6:25:12] compliance monitoring and [6:25:12] enforcement. [6:25:13] All of that comes with real [6:25:14] cost to the city and the public [6:25:18] has not seen a clear breakdown [6:25:18] of what expanding this program [6:25:19] will actually cost taxpayers. [6:25:24] Without that transparency [6:25:25] moving forward would be [6:25:25] irresponsible. [6:25:29] If the city adds 36 additional [6:25:29] permits essentially doubling [6:25:30] the number of pot shops in San [6:25:35] Diego, that would be a major [6:25:36] policy shift with long term [6:25:36] regulatory and financial [6:25:41] impacts. [6:25:41] Across California many social [6:25:42] equity cannabis programs have [6:25:47] struggled and only a small [6:25:47] number of businesses [6:25:48] successfully open while cities [6:25:53] continue to absorb [6:25:53] administrative burden. [6:25:54] In many cases these programs [6:25:54] have failed to generate [6:25:55] meaningful tax revenue or [6:25:59] reduce the illicit market. [6:26:00] At a time when San Diego must [6:26:05] focus on essential priorities [6:26:05] like public safety [6:26:06] infrastructure and core city [6:26:07] services expanding a program [6:26:11] with uncertain outcomes could [6:26:11] an already fragile budget. [6:26:12] I urge the Council to [6:26:17] prioritize fiscally responsible [6:26:17] responsibly and do not and do [6:26:22] not bring the c program [6:26:23] forward. [6:26:23] Thank you. [6:26:24] Thank you. [6:26:24] The next speaker is Christine [6:26:28] Wellborn. [6:26:29] >> If you can please unmute. [6:26:35] Hi, I, I don't think you should [6:26:35] ask for another dime from [6:26:36] taxpayers until you either [6:26:40] repeal or amend measure l so [6:26:41] that your pay raises are not [6:26:42] linked to those of the superior [6:26:46] court judges. [6:26:47] It's simply not fair. [6:26:48] Nobody in the private sector [6:26:48] gets raises as frequently as [6:26:53] you all do Plus you're going to [6:26:53] get pensions and every. [6:26:54] It's just not right. [6:26:58] So please don't ask taxpayers [6:26:59] to take on this burden without [6:27:00] you doing something as well. [6:27:05] Also, Gloria, salary is higher [6:27:05] than that of Newsom's. [6:27:06] We need to get rid of [6:27:10] the strong mayor system that [6:27:11] has not worked out so well. [6:27:12] It doesn't matter what party [6:27:17] our mayor is. [6:27:17] It's just not working. [6:27:18] Eliminate middle management [6:27:18] roles. [6:27:23] MR. McCarver, you said you [6:27:24] wanted specifics. [6:27:24] Okay, Let's get rid of [6:27:25] the middle management roles [6:27:29] that are unclassified meaning [6:27:30] they aren't part of the civil [6:27:30] service system. [6:27:35] Do away with those first and [6:27:35] then deal with the rest one by [6:27:36] one. [6:27:36] Go through it by line item. [6:27:40] Thank you. [6:27:41] Have a nice night. [6:27:42] Next is 8700 If you can please [6:27:48] unmute. [6:27:48] Thank you. [6:27:55] Joining me out of district [6:27:56] three first of all council [6:27:56] member Foster the third. [6:27:59] You said something today about [6:28:00] mandated core services and I [6:28:06] don't get that but I think it's [6:28:07] key for us public to know that [6:28:08] and can see that list from [6:28:12] the attorney. [6:28:13] I don't know why we need it. [6:28:14] We ought to know right away [6:28:17] what our mandated core services [6:28:18] . [6:28:18] That would help me certainly [6:28:19] make my decisions. [6:28:19] So please, please, please tell [6:28:24] us what that's about. [6:28:25] Well, I've said this before and [6:28:28] I'll say it again We are one [6:28:29] people which make us one [6:28:29] family. [6:28:30] That includes everybody. [6:28:36] The homeowners, the tourist, [6:28:36] us, rich people. [6:28:37] The poor people. [6:28:40] The underserved people. [6:28:41] Our employees. [6:28:41] Everybody. [6:28:42] We're all sitting around this [6:28:49] table at the kitchen table. [6:28:50] Make it come you know, just to [6:28:53] vote And we have to cut the pie [6:28:53] . [6:28:54] How do we do it? [6:28:54] I don't know. [6:28:59] The big picture is it's person [6:29:00] . [6:29:00] I'm a public. [6:29:01] I don't sit at the seats that [6:29:01] you do. [6:29:05] I can't see all these huge [6:29:06] realm of uses and purchases and [6:29:12] assets and liabilities. [6:29:13] From my perspective you it's [6:29:13] like for libraries and parks [6:29:19] and police and public health [6:29:19] and use. [6:29:20] i don't know what to say but I [6:29:20] will say this. [6:29:23] Parks can be close to one per [6:29:24] district. [6:29:24] I'm sorry I concluded I'm sorry [6:29:29] your time has concluded 2036 If [6:29:30] you can please unmute by [6:29:38] pressing star six 2036. [6:29:38] Hello. [6:29:44] Yes please proceed with your [6:29:45] comments. [6:29:45] >> So yes thank you council [6:29:46] members for allowing us to [6:29:51] participate in the balancing of [6:29:52] the 2027 budget. [6:29:57] I would like to emphasize six [6:29:57] controls that I think you [6:29:58] should follow. [6:29:59] One is that the City of San [6:30:03] Diego tax based is a high cost [6:30:04] of living population due to [6:30:09] lower cost states. [6:30:10] Certainly there are some We're [6:30:10] looking to implement a voting [6:30:14] type function in San Diego [6:30:14] which would be similar to [6:30:15] the federal budget which is [6:30:19] probably about 22,000 staff [6:30:19] cuts at the federal level. [6:30:24] So third in particular [6:30:25] implementation of pension [6:30:29] reform by implementing a [6:30:30] defined contribution pension by [6:30:36] the defined benefit pension. [6:30:37] Fourth, I think that you should [6:30:37] put up a good reason for this. [6:30:40] Of course as you know is [6:30:41] the council has voted to [6:30:41] unsustainable cost of living [6:30:47] increases for city staff. [6:30:48] I would often also cut up I [6:30:48] would be across the board stuff [6:30:54] because in all departments that [6:30:54] could be done through [6:30:55] the donation function. [6:31:00] But what I do recommend that [6:31:00] you do not do you do not [6:31:01] consider local income tax. [6:31:04] Do not meet the water and sewer [6:31:05] fund to supplement the general [6:31:10] fund that has occurred in [6:31:11] the past. [6:31:11] >> Thank you for considering my [6:31:12] comments, sir. [6:31:12] Thank you. [6:31:17] Our final speaker is Francine [6:31:18] Maxwell, if you can please on [6:31:18] me. [6:31:18] Okay. [6:31:19] Good evening. [6:31:20] Francine Maxwell Southeastern [6:31:23] San Diego resident. [6:31:24] I'm looking for bold leadership [6:31:24] during this time. [6:31:25] Let's do something that you've [6:31:25] never done before. [6:31:28] Respect council policies. [6:31:32] I think it's 700 dash ten 700 [6:31:33] dash 14 But the interpretation [6:31:34] is that nobody is bold enough [6:31:39] to raise the leases for these [6:31:40] nonprofits that are doing [6:31:40] things that the city isn't [6:31:41] doing. [6:31:41] That's interpretation. [6:31:45] So again, let's look at [6:31:46] the leases and let's increase [6:31:47] their leases especially in [6:31:47] Balboa Park. [6:31:52] Before you add another tax to [6:31:53] us taxpayers you have options. [6:31:58] You can look at Ace parking and [6:31:59] look at the leases that you [6:31:59] give them. [6:32:00] You get they give us no breaks [6:32:00] in the city. [6:32:04] So why is the city giving them [6:32:04] so many breaks? [6:32:05] There are so many other options [6:32:10] before you doing the easy road [6:32:10] . [6:32:11] You did You did something that [6:32:12] nobody has ever done before [6:32:17] which is increase our trash [6:32:17] fee. [6:32:18] That used to be political [6:32:18] suicide but it wasn't Joe [6:32:19] The public good at the planning [6:32:20] group hit us in the gut. [6:32:23] So the planning group Power has [6:32:23] gone from the community [6:32:24] constituents for their voices. [6:32:27] So hit somebody else in the gut [6:32:28] . [6:32:28] As we prepare for this. [6:32:29] Appreciative of the extra night [6:32:30] meeting that you gave [6:32:34] the taxpayers. [6:32:35] I really appreciate you having [6:32:36] such a long day to day. [6:32:37] And I'm sure you guys are what [6:32:40] most people take off on Friday. [6:32:41] But I know the council [6:32:41] PRESIDENT MAY not work. [6:32:46] But again, you have options [6:32:47] that you can hit other people [6:32:47] first before you hit our parks [6:32:48] and libraries. [6:32:49] Thank you for allowing me to [6:32:53] speak. [6:32:53] Thank you. [6:32:54] If you raise your hand if [6:32:55] matter has already concluded. [6:32:55] There are no additional [6:33:00] speakers will be taken today [6:33:01] But if you have comments please [6:33:01] feel free to email them to city [6:33:02] at San diego.Gov and those will [6:33:03] be distributed. [6:33:06] I would like to note these that [6:33:07] I did receive 19 comments in [6:33:07] favor two comments in [6:33:08] opposition to your comment form [6:33:11] which had been distributed to [6:33:11] the council. [6:33:12] Thank you Council PRESIDENT. [6:33:12] All right. [6:33:13] Thank you City Clerk for [6:33:13] managing that. [6:33:17] Thank you to everybody that [6:33:18] showed up in person those who [6:33:18] participated virtually to that [6:33:22] we really appreciate their [6:33:23] input. [6:33:23] I'm going to turn it over to my [6:33:28] colleagues for their comments. [6:33:29] Councilmember Elevado Thank you [6:33:29] Council PRESIDENT. [6:33:34] Appreciate the opportunity to [6:33:34] have another evening session. [6:33:35] Thanks for everyone who came [6:33:40] down here and who called in [6:33:40] Appreciate the priorities that [6:33:41] you all shared. [6:33:46] I agree with everyone who said [6:33:46] that our libraries, our parks [6:33:47] rec centers are core city [6:33:52] services that there are folks [6:33:52] who depend on those services [6:33:57] and those programs. [6:33:59] And I heard a mix of of just to [6:34:04] be frank you know, reality [6:34:05] about how difficult of a budget [6:34:06] situation that we're in and you [6:34:14] know, I think I said it earlier [6:34:15] today a couple weeks ago if [6:34:19] what we want as a city is a [6:34:19] city where every library in [6:34:23] the city is open seven days a [6:34:24] week, every every hour that [6:34:29] folks would want it open [6:34:30] The same for our rec centers [6:34:30] and parks that are clean and [6:34:35] safe and roads that are [6:34:36] well-paved and sidewalks that [6:34:36] don't have cracks in them and [6:34:41] responsive public safety you [6:34:41] name it. [6:34:42] This has to be a better [6:34:42] resource city and I think [6:34:46] that's where the tension lies [6:34:47] Oftentimes in this conversation [6:34:53] this council took extraordinary [6:34:53] steps at the council PRESIDENT [6:34:59] Reference to avoid devastating [6:35:00] cuts last year And I understand [6:35:04] the frustration with some of [6:35:05] those steps And but for those [6:35:11] steps the cuts have happened [6:35:12] and and the fears that you have [6:35:13] today would have been [6:35:16] the realities that people would [6:35:17] be facing today. [6:35:23] And I, I say that because not [6:35:24] to let us off the hook for [6:35:24] those decisions was [6:35:25] the decision that we made. [6:35:29] We do stand by them or change [6:35:30] them but we're going to need to [6:35:30] hear from more people who want [6:35:34] the city to be well resourced [6:35:35] And we're going to have to have [6:35:36] a real conversation about who [6:35:41] we ask to provide those [6:35:42] resources who we aren't willing [6:35:43] to ask more from and who are [6:35:47] willing to ask more from. [6:35:48] But it all starts again [6:35:48] determining as a city who we [6:35:49] want to be, what we want to be, [6:35:53] what we want to provide. [6:35:53] I think we can do more. [6:35:54] I know that the resources exist [6:35:59] within the city to to meet [6:36:00] hopes and aspirations of [6:36:01] the people in this room. [6:36:04] But the people that the people [6:36:05] in this room work for and work [6:36:09] with. [6:36:10] So I just I'm going to keep [6:36:11] hammering that home because [6:36:15] that's the situation that we're [6:36:15] in. [6:36:21] And the other thing that I [6:36:22] mentioned earlier but I'm going [6:36:23] to mention again if libraries [6:36:27] matter to you, if parks matter [6:36:28] to you, if supporting people [6:36:33] who are struggling with [6:36:34] substance addiction matters to [6:36:34] you. [6:36:39] If any city service matters to [6:36:40] you, you should know that [6:36:41] the former mayor of the city [6:36:45] and a group of big business [6:36:45] radicals are attempting to [6:36:50] defund a core city service at [6:36:51] the tune of $100 million plus [6:36:51] that would devastate [6:36:52] the services that the city is [6:36:56] able to provide And they're [6:36:57] doing it in the guise of [6:37:02] punishing us. [6:37:03] It will not punish us. [6:37:04] It punishes the people of this [6:37:04] city. [6:37:08] It makes our job more difficult [6:37:08] for sure. [6:37:09] But ultimately who will suffer? [6:37:10] It's everyone who wants to see [6:37:14] libraries open rec centers, [6:37:15] open parks, clean public safety [6:37:15] that's responsive. [6:37:20] And so I cannot emphasize this [6:37:21] enough because the person who [6:37:26] used to be the mayor of this [6:37:26] city who knows full well what [6:37:31] the impacts will be, who left [6:37:31] this place a disaster with [6:37:37] rotting infrastructure and a [6:37:37] employee a workforce that had [6:37:42] no morale that had 30 to 40% [6:37:43] vacancies in core departments [6:37:48] is now attempting to light [6:37:49] the city on fire so they can [6:37:50] try a political maneuver in [6:37:53] the years to come. [6:37:54] And everyone who cares about [6:37:55] these services needs to speak [6:38:00] up and stand up against that. [6:38:01] So I know that probably my [6:38:01] colleagues who heard a bit of [6:38:02] this tirade earlier but I just [6:38:05] think it's super important that [6:38:06] folks know what's going on [6:38:06] here. [6:38:07] They're going to say they're [6:38:11] punishing politicians because [6:38:12] that's popular. [6:38:12] That's easy thing to say. [6:38:13] We're that that's fine. [6:38:17] That's the job we signed up [6:38:17] for. [6:38:18] People are going to come at us [6:38:21] But who will actually suffer if [6:38:22] they are successful Because [6:38:23] everyone who I named earlier [6:38:23] and the folks who showed up who [6:38:28] took the time to show up here [6:38:29] on the evening to talk about [6:38:29] things you care about, you [6:38:30] should know that that's [6:38:33] happening And I really do hope [6:38:33] that you all will push back [6:38:34] against that. [6:38:34] >> Thank you, Council [6:38:35] PRESIDENT. [6:38:35] All right. [6:38:39] Thank you, gentlemen. [6:38:40] >> I will go next to [6:38:41] Councilmember Mumford and thank [6:38:45] you very much to everybody who [6:38:45] came out tonight to voice their [6:38:46] concerns, opinion, thoughts on [6:38:47] our city budget. [6:38:49] You know, big cities around [6:38:50] the nation are going through [6:38:51] what we are going through here [6:38:51] in San Diego which is [6:38:55] significant cost increases and [6:38:56] significant budget deficits. [6:38:56] We are not the only ones. [6:39:01] There are forces beyond our [6:39:02] control terrorists and [6:39:03] international war is being [6:39:03] declared that a rise in [6:39:06] the cost of everything And we [6:39:07] are struggling here in [6:39:07] the local government to provide [6:39:08] the best service we can And it [6:39:12] is my top priority to make sure [6:39:13] that goodness forbid somebody [6:39:14] calls 911 in our city that are [6:39:18] responsible professional [6:39:18] responders shows up on time [6:39:19] every time whether that's an [6:39:22] ambulance, a firefighter, a [6:39:23] lifeguard, a police officer. [6:39:24] It is critical that if you call [6:39:27] 911 you get the help you need. [6:39:28] We also need to make sure we [6:39:29] take care of our crumbling [6:39:29] infrastructure. [6:39:30] The longer we let it go, [6:39:33] the more expensive it becomes [6:39:33] to fix. [6:39:34] And we've seen it everywhere [6:39:35] from the heart of Balboa Park [6:39:38] to our library to our parks, [6:39:39] our roads every day And it's [6:39:40] going to be harder with our [6:39:44] cost increases going up. [6:39:44] I also want to thank the folks [6:39:45] who came in from our lgbt [6:39:49] center who talk about [6:39:50] the ongoing need to do [6:39:50] something for mental health [6:39:51] treatment in our city and our [6:39:54] region. [6:39:55] There's a reason that the city [6:39:56] of San Diego sued the major [6:39:56] opioid providers years ago and [6:40:00] we're still grappling with [6:40:00] the effects of the addiction [6:40:01] crisis they caused. [6:40:05] So I will continue to be a [6:40:06] champion to make sure that we [6:40:06] do fund or subsidize treatment. [6:40:10] And I have seen the federal [6:40:10] government retreating from its [6:40:11] basic responsibilities into [6:40:12] mental health substance abuse, [6:40:16] hiv aids treatment. [6:40:16] And so we here in the city of [6:40:17] San Diego need to take [6:40:18] the reins and make sure our [6:40:21] lgbtq community among others is [6:40:21] is protected. [6:40:22] So happy to keep fighting for [6:40:22] that to make sure that we do [6:40:27] get people off of our streets [6:40:27] and off of drug use get it's [6:40:28] been awful to see what [6:40:31] the major companies have done [6:40:32] to our American society. [6:40:33] So just thank you everyone for [6:40:33] being here. [6:40:36] It's going to be a very, very [6:40:37] tough budget cycle But I do [6:40:38] have faith that our colleagues [6:40:41] all want to work together on [6:40:42] this and make sure that we make [6:40:42] cuts that are smart if we have [6:40:43] to. [6:40:43] Hopefully we won't but we [6:40:46] likely will. [6:40:47] And I agree with my colleagues. [6:40:47] I know across the board cuts we [6:40:51] have communities that are [6:40:52] vastly different and have [6:40:53] different needs and we can be [6:40:56] more precise and make sure that [6:40:57] we take care of everyone from [6:40:58] the seniors, you know, in [6:40:58] Rancho Bernardo who need [6:41:01] cooling centers in my district [6:41:02] to students all over the city [6:41:03] who have different [6:41:03] opportunities to have library [6:41:06] hours when they need them on [6:41:07] Monday nights for example. [6:41:08] We can do this in a way that [6:41:08] makes sure that everybody is [6:41:12] taken care of rather than [6:41:13] across the board straight cuts [6:41:13] that would hurt everyone [6:41:14] equally to be honest. [6:41:18] So I know everyone up here is [6:41:18] working very hard on that and [6:41:19] continue to let us know what [6:41:23] your priorities are, what you [6:41:24] want to what you want to see [6:41:25] and your government because [6:41:25] we're here to to listen. [6:41:26] So thank you. [6:41:28] Council PRESIDENT All right. [6:41:28] Thank you Council member Von [6:41:31] Wolpert All out If you thought [6:41:37] things go one of the things I [6:41:38] should have said at [6:41:41] the beginning that I was remiss [6:41:42] . [6:41:42] You know, we wanted to give [6:41:43] the public a direct opportunity [6:41:47] to participate in the budget [6:41:47] conversations. [6:41:48] You should know that there are [6:41:48] a lot of people right now hard [6:41:52] at work diving into the budget, [6:41:52] actually looking into the kinds [6:41:56] of things that you brought up [6:41:57] the so-called middle managers [6:42:01] conversation not looking at new [6:42:02] revenue ideas given how [6:42:07] aggressive we were last year. [6:42:08] And so we're taking very [6:42:09] serious But a lot of people are [6:42:12] working right now. [6:42:12] We just wanted to see what [6:42:13] the public's priorities might [6:42:17] be and we got a lot of good [6:42:17] conversation. [6:42:18] So I'm very appreciative of [6:42:21] your willingness to be candid [6:42:22] in sharing those thoughts with [6:42:26] I actually transcribed all that [6:42:27] so I can make sure that I [6:42:32] remember going forward and if [6:42:33] that individual that has ideas [6:42:33] about how to make money can [6:42:37] actually send us some specifics [6:42:37] on that I'd love I'd love to [6:42:38] hear it. [6:42:41] That sounded like an [6:42:41] interesting business priority [6:42:46] but I'll leave it there And [6:42:47] unless I have any other [6:42:51] comments we'll give it to MR. [6:42:52] Monica for a closing [6:42:52] announcement. [6:42:53] >> Thank you council members [6:42:56] and thank you to everyone who [6:42:57] came out to give testimony. [6:42:58] I just wanted to note that as [6:42:59] we move through the next couple [6:43:02] of months, public participation [6:43:02] is absolutely critical in [6:43:03] ensuring that the city is [6:43:07] making the best decisions for [6:43:08] the public and on the public's [6:43:08] behalf. [6:43:09] To that end, each year my [6:43:12] office does put together a [6:43:13] public budget crash course [6:43:17] where we talk about the city's [6:43:18] budget process, how equity can [6:43:18] be incorporated into the city's [6:43:22] budget and then dollars that [6:43:23] are in the budget where they [6:43:24] are and more frankly where they [6:43:24] are not. [6:43:27] Sometimes our course this year [6:43:28] will be on MARCH 24th at 5 [6:43:28] P.M.. [6:43:29] It is open to the public. [6:43:32] It is interactive. [6:43:32] We will give a presentation but [6:43:33] we also take questions as they [6:43:33] come in. [6:43:37] So I encourage folks to [6:43:37] participate. [6:43:38] You can find additional [6:43:38] information on that course at [6:43:42] our website which is San [6:43:42] diego.Gov/ipa and look forward [6:43:46] to any participation. [6:43:47] >> Thank you PRESIDENT All [6:43:47] right. [6:43:51] Thank you for that Charles on [6:43:51] protocol let me remind folks [6:43:52] this was an information item in [6:43:56] no motion was required and [6:43:56] without any further comment we [6:44:01] will now adjourn Counsel to [6:44:02] the next regularly scheduled [6:44:02] council meeting on Monday MARCH [6:44:05] 16th, 2026 at 10 A.M.. [6:44:06] And again thank you to all of [6:44:10] you that came out this evening [6:44:10] and sharing your thoughts as [6:44:11] well as those who participated [6:44:14] virtually And thank you to city [6:44:14] 24 for the coverage. [6:44:15] >> Thank you The city clerk and