1 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:43,191 . 2 00:08:43,191 --> 00:08:43,624 All right. 3 00:08:43,624 --> 00:08:44,592 Good morning. 4 00:08:44,592 --> 00:08:47,462 I will now call a city council 5 00:08:47,462 --> 00:08:48,960 meeting on Monday MARCH 16th, 6 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:50,496 2026 to order Deputy Clerk 7 00:08:51,166 --> 00:08:53,566 Please call the roll 8 00:08:53,902 --> 00:08:55,902 Councilmember Campbell Campbell 9 00:09:02,110 --> 00:09:02,810 I'm here. 10 00:09:02,810 --> 00:09:03,445 Thank you, Councilmember. 11 00:09:03,445 --> 00:09:03,878 What brought Councilmember 12 00:09:03,878 --> 00:09:04,412 Woodburn here? 13 00:09:04,412 --> 00:09:05,790 Councilmember Foster 14 00:09:05,790 --> 00:09:07,790 Councilmember Yvonne Wolpert 15 00:09:10,885 --> 00:09:11,786 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee 16 00:09:11,786 --> 00:09:14,955 here Council Member to you hear 17 00:09:14,955 --> 00:09:15,691 Council Member Moreno present 18 00:09:15,691 --> 00:09:18,691 Council member Ella Rivera and 19 00:09:18,893 --> 00:09:19,227 Council PRESIDENT LaCava 20 00:09:19,227 --> 00:09:19,928 present. 21 00:09:19,928 --> 00:09:20,629 Also attending the meeting are 22 00:09:20,629 --> 00:09:23,290 City Attorney Heather Herbert, 23 00:09:24,366 --> 00:09:25,660 Independent budget analyst 24 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:28,660 Charles Monica and myself your 25 00:09:28,737 --> 00:09:29,104 assistant city Clerk dg 26 00:09:29,104 --> 00:09:29,704 Pantaleo. 27 00:09:29,704 --> 00:09:30,338 >> All right, thank you. 28 00:09:30,338 --> 00:09:33,338 A quorum is now present. 29 00:09:34,309 --> 00:09:35,900 We will begin this morning with 30 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:35,677 an invocation by Deputy clerk 31 00:09:35,677 --> 00:09:37,111 John followed with the land 32 00:09:37,111 --> 00:09:38,790 acknowledgment and the pledge 33 00:09:38,790 --> 00:09:41,790 of Allegiance by council member 34 00:09:42,316 --> 00:09:43,850 Campbell. 35 00:09:43,850 --> 00:09:45,850 We respectfully acknowledge 36 00:09:47,289 --> 00:09:51,426 that the I'm sorry Oh I'm sorry 37 00:09:51,426 --> 00:09:52,127 Grant Those who hold office in 38 00:09:52,127 --> 00:09:52,828 the city the spirit of wisdom, 39 00:09:52,828 --> 00:09:55,828 charity and justice that with 40 00:09:56,198 --> 00:09:56,831 steadfast purpose they MAY 41 00:09:56,831 --> 00:09:57,332 faithfully serve in their 42 00:09:57,332 --> 00:09:59,332 offices to promote 43 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:01,669 the well-being of all people. 44 00:10:01,669 --> 00:10:03,669 We respectfully acknowledge 45 00:10:06,108 --> 00:10:09,708 that the Kumia are the original 46 00:10:10,946 --> 00:10:11,646 inhabitants of the Unceded land 47 00:10:11,646 --> 00:10:12,380 now known as San Diego. 48 00:10:12,380 --> 00:10:15,380 Despite enduring the horrors of 49 00:10:16,510 --> 00:10:16,717 genocide and colonization, 50 00:10:16,717 --> 00:10:17,850 the community spirit remains 51 00:10:17,850 --> 00:10:19,850 unbroken. 52 00:10:20,556 --> 00:10:21,256 We honor the resilience of 53 00:10:21,256 --> 00:10:24,256 their ancestors who fought to 54 00:10:25,226 --> 00:10:25,527 protect their culture and land 55 00:10:25,527 --> 00:10:26,228 . 56 00:10:26,228 --> 00:10:29,228 Today they carry their legacy 57 00:10:30,365 --> 00:10:31,650 forward ensuring that their 58 00:10:31,650 --> 00:10:31,700 traditions continue to thrive 59 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:34,100 in gratitude and strength. 60 00:10:35,337 --> 00:10:36,104 We stand with the culmination 61 00:10:36,104 --> 00:10:39,104 connected to our past and 62 00:10:40,642 --> 00:10:40,975 committed to its thriving 63 00:10:40,975 --> 00:10:41,676 future. 64 00:10:41,676 --> 00:10:45,214 Please raise the flag Put your 65 00:10:45,214 --> 00:10:45,814 right hand over your heart and 66 00:10:45,814 --> 00:10:46,448 let's say the Pledge of 67 00:10:46,448 --> 00:10:48,448 Allegiance together Pledge 68 00:10:50,752 --> 00:10:51,419 allegiance to the flag of 69 00:10:51,419 --> 00:10:54,419 the United States of America 70 00:10:55,390 --> 00:10:56,258 and to the Republic for which 71 00:10:56,258 --> 00:10:59,858 it stands One nation under GOD 72 00:11:09,538 --> 00:11:10,380 indivisible with. 73 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:10,706 >> All right. 74 00:11:10,706 --> 00:11:14,176 The deputy clerk will now go 75 00:11:14,176 --> 00:11:14,643 over how the public can offer 76 00:11:14,643 --> 00:11:15,144 their testimony. 77 00:11:15,144 --> 00:11:17,144 >> Please proceed. 78 00:11:18,180 --> 00:11:18,947 I will now highlight the slide 79 00:11:18,947 --> 00:11:19,681 on the screen that reviews how 80 00:11:19,681 --> 00:11:20,282 the public can offer the public 81 00:11:20,282 --> 00:11:22,282 testimony during today's 82 00:11:23,751 --> 00:11:24,519 meeting. 83 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:25,154 If you are in person please 84 00:11:25,154 --> 00:11:25,788 complete a speaker select 85 00:11:25,788 --> 00:11:28,788 located at the entrance of 86 00:11:28,824 --> 00:11:29,391 chambers and bring it to 87 00:11:29,391 --> 00:11:30,920 the front of the room. 88 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:30,792 No further in-person testimony 89 00:11:30,792 --> 00:11:33,162 will be taken once the council 90 00:11:33,162 --> 00:11:33,796 begins virtual testimony for 91 00:11:33,796 --> 00:11:34,163 better meeting management 92 00:11:34,163 --> 00:11:36,163 purposes. 93 00:11:37,633 --> 00:11:38,300 Each speaker will have one 94 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:41,300 minute per item per person. 95 00:11:42,371 --> 00:11:42,972 >> All right. 96 00:11:42,972 --> 00:11:43,539 Thank you Deputy Clerk. 97 00:11:43,539 --> 00:11:44,239 With that please read 98 00:11:44,239 --> 00:11:46,976 the closed session items into 99 00:11:46,976 --> 00:11:47,442 the record and proceed with 100 00:11:47,442 --> 00:11:48,430 public comment. 101 00:11:48,430 --> 00:11:50,430 >> Conference with Legal 102 00:11:51,714 --> 00:11:52,280 Counsel Existing Litigation 103 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,280 pursuant to California 104 00:11:56,117 --> 00:11:58,117 Government Code Section 5495 105 00:11:59,789 --> 00:12:00,422 6.91 See as 1st JANUARY 2020 106 00:12:00,422 --> 00:12:00,989 JANUARY 22nd 2024 Floating 107 00:12:00,989 --> 00:12:02,989 Litigation California 108 00:12:04,660 --> 00:12:05,160 Government Code Section 109 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,160 54957862 Critical 110 00:12:09,398 --> 00:12:10,320 infrastructure information 111 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:10,733 relating to cybersecurity 112 00:12:10,733 --> 00:12:13,133 conference with legal counsel 113 00:12:14,603 --> 00:12:15,170 significant exposure to 114 00:12:15,170 --> 00:12:17,170 litigation pursuant to 115 00:12:18,307 --> 00:12:19,275 California Government Code 116 00:12:19,275 --> 00:12:21,675 Section 54956. 9d263 Number of 117 00:12:25,948 --> 00:12:26,415 cases one and proceed with 118 00:12:26,415 --> 00:12:28,415 public offering. 119 00:12:30,152 --> 00:12:30,819 Okay I have Thank you Counsel 120 00:12:30,819 --> 00:12:34,419 PRESIDENT We do not have any 121 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:35,491 in-person public comment so I 122 00:12:35,491 --> 00:12:37,393 will now start the five minute 123 00:12:37,393 --> 00:12:40,993 timer and go to our virtual 124 00:12:42,965 --> 00:12:45,965 comment will go to original 125 00:12:47,403 --> 00:12:48,136 draft. 126 00:12:48,136 --> 00:12:51,736 Please let me know what items 127 00:12:51,940 --> 00:12:52,608 you'd like to speak to that So 128 00:12:52,608 --> 00:12:53,409 if there's other callers are 129 00:12:53,409 --> 00:12:56,345 going to be aware of what's 130 00:12:56,345 --> 00:12:57,113 happening. 131 00:12:57,113 --> 00:13:00,113 Hello Could you could you 132 00:13:01,350 --> 00:13:03,350 repeat that again? 133 00:13:06,550 --> 00:13:09,458 I can't hear anything can we? 134 00:13:09,458 --> 00:13:10,293 We can't hear you. 135 00:13:10,293 --> 00:13:13,293 Can you repeat what you're 136 00:13:14,363 --> 00:13:16,363 saying? 137 00:13:19,135 --> 00:13:19,735 She can't hear us. 138 00:13:19,735 --> 00:13:20,350 She can't hear us. 139 00:13:20,350 --> 00:13:21,137 Okay. 140 00:13:21,137 --> 00:13:25,937 Let me see if I could put up 141 00:13:26,909 --> 00:13:28,909 the volume. 142 00:13:36,686 --> 00:13:37,519 Can you hear us now? 143 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:41,719 I think you need to fix it 144 00:13:41,957 --> 00:13:42,659 before moving forward because 145 00:13:42,659 --> 00:13:42,958 it's obvious there's something 146 00:13:42,958 --> 00:13:44,958 wrong. 147 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,404 We could hear you in chambers. 148 00:13:54,404 --> 00:13:56,804 >> Can you hear us? 149 00:14:05,215 --> 00:14:08,215 Original draft talking to her 150 00:14:23,133 --> 00:14:24,367 But did you hear us now? 151 00:14:24,367 --> 00:14:28,738 So there's no we can We can go 152 00:14:28,738 --> 00:14:32,938 over to the next one where she 153 00:14:34,577 --> 00:14:35,311 can Yeah original which I will 154 00:14:35,311 --> 00:14:36,146 I we'll move to the next caller 155 00:14:36,146 --> 00:14:39,746 and we'll put you back on 156 00:14:46,756 --> 00:14:47,457 the queue. 157 00:14:47,457 --> 00:14:48,191 Okay We have the next caller 158 00:14:48,191 --> 00:14:51,191 Blaire Beekman have allowed you 159 00:14:52,950 --> 00:14:52,796 to speak Could you speak could 160 00:14:52,796 --> 00:14:55,796 you state which closed session 161 00:14:57,401 --> 00:15:00,704 items you'd like to speak to? 162 00:15:00,704 --> 00:15:01,471 Sarah Well I think one is also 163 00:15:01,471 --> 00:15:05,671 here Now if we could hear you 164 00:15:05,909 --> 00:15:06,609 or Blair and I can hear Drey 165 00:15:06,609 --> 00:15:07,177 Okay you guys here it's in 166 00:15:07,177 --> 00:15:07,877 the council chambers. 167 00:15:07,877 --> 00:15:10,277 It's it's pretty low. 168 00:15:11,714 --> 00:15:14,714 She was very in hear 169 00:15:16,152 --> 00:15:17,530 the council chambers But I can 170 00:15:17,530 --> 00:15:17,387 Can you hang on for one second, 171 00:15:17,387 --> 00:15:17,954 please? 172 00:15:17,954 --> 00:15:18,354 We're having technical 173 00:15:18,354 --> 00:15:20,354 difficulty. 174 00:15:22,492 --> 00:15:23,159 You seem like city unmuted and 175 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:23,959 but that's a little bit of 176 00:15:23,959 --> 00:15:27,264 sound came in but then it 177 00:15:27,264 --> 00:15:30,264 needed that exactly I same 178 00:15:35,638 --> 00:15:36,372 doing Yeah yeah I can get my 179 00:15:36,372 --> 00:15:39,972 public comment if you like okay 180 00:15:40,577 --> 00:15:41,177 perfect it's okay okay we could 181 00:15:41,177 --> 00:15:41,912 start We can start now. 182 00:15:41,912 --> 00:15:44,912 Could you please substitute Can 183 00:15:48,117 --> 00:15:51,717 you harass Blair I got muted 184 00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:52,955 when Blair came. 185 00:15:52,955 --> 00:15:56,555 I'm still unmuted so maybe I 186 00:15:57,127 --> 00:16:00,127 will try to speak up. 187 00:16:00,129 --> 00:16:00,997 >> MR. Bateman? 188 00:16:00,997 --> 00:16:03,997 >> MR. Bateman, could you hear 189 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:05,168 me okay. 190 00:16:05,168 --> 00:16:07,437 You be cool about this now. 191 00:16:07,437 --> 00:16:09,437 So calm head. 192 00:16:12,508 --> 00:16:16,108 MR. Bateman, can you hear us? 193 00:16:18,415 --> 00:16:19,182 Any other options? 194 00:16:19,182 --> 00:16:22,782 I think we're just going to 195 00:16:26,355 --> 00:16:30,555 have to call and I guess I 196 00:16:31,695 --> 00:16:32,663 tried. 197 00:16:32,663 --> 00:16:34,264 >> I wanted to speak to three 198 00:16:34,264 --> 00:16:37,864 items MR. Beekman, can you hear 199 00:16:42,472 --> 00:16:43,390 us now? 200 00:16:43,390 --> 00:16:45,390 >> Thank you. 201 00:16:48,946 --> 00:16:49,246 I wanted to speak to Yes, one's 202 00:16:49,246 --> 00:16:49,879 here. 203 00:16:49,879 --> 00:16:52,279 Students Here Three Okay. 204 00:16:52,649 --> 00:16:53,183 Please. 205 00:16:53,183 --> 00:16:53,984 Please proceed. 206 00:16:53,984 --> 00:16:57,955 Maybe I can just try to speak 207 00:16:57,955 --> 00:16:58,756 now and see how that impact can 208 00:16:58,756 --> 00:16:59,122 ,you know, go through your 209 00:16:59,122 --> 00:16:59,555 chambers. 210 00:16:59,555 --> 00:17:01,555 >> Okay, good. 211 00:17:02,826 --> 00:17:03,527 The timer started so I will 212 00:17:03,527 --> 00:17:04,128 speak to that item and 213 00:17:04,128 --> 00:17:04,795 hopefully that can be a 214 00:17:04,795 --> 00:17:05,596 starting point for ourselves 215 00:17:05,596 --> 00:17:08,331 and maybe we can work on it as 216 00:17:08,331 --> 00:17:12,350 a meeting goes on for this one 217 00:17:12,350 --> 00:17:12,802 I have a good luck to ourselves 218 00:17:12,802 --> 00:17:15,802 that we're working on on 219 00:17:17,908 --> 00:17:18,241 platitudes as a community 220 00:17:18,241 --> 00:17:18,976 process. 221 00:17:18,976 --> 00:17:21,545 Very nice to are mentioned at a 222 00:17:21,545 --> 00:17:21,912 previous meeting I was 223 00:17:21,912 --> 00:17:22,613 attending. 224 00:17:22,613 --> 00:17:25,613 >> It's a crazy scenario that 225 00:17:25,749 --> 00:17:26,483 they're both suing and 226 00:17:26,483 --> 00:17:27,217 countersuing going on over what 227 00:17:27,217 --> 00:17:30,817 issues in what was a natural 228 00:17:31,355 --> 00:17:32,155 disaster and in a certain 229 00:17:32,155 --> 00:17:35,155 responsibility this city of San 230 00:17:35,659 --> 00:17:36,559 Diego has in these sort of 231 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:40,159 issues I hope both sides I 232 00:17:40,597 --> 00:17:41,298 think the reason why San Diego 233 00:17:41,298 --> 00:17:44,898 is countersuing is to kind of 234 00:17:45,336 --> 00:17:45,836 limit and mitigate the suing 235 00:17:45,836 --> 00:17:47,836 claims of people. 236 00:17:49,707 --> 00:17:50,507 I hope that people suing and 237 00:17:50,507 --> 00:17:54,707 the city of San Diego can both 238 00:17:54,845 --> 00:17:55,712 take a deep breath and mellow 239 00:17:55,712 --> 00:17:56,413 out as much as they can and 240 00:17:56,413 --> 00:17:58,813 come to reasonable agreements 241 00:18:00,550 --> 00:18:01,352 together and not go for all out 242 00:18:01,352 --> 00:18:04,352 craziness for a really bad 243 00:18:04,855 --> 00:18:05,221 situation. 244 00:18:05,221 --> 00:18:05,923 Good luck. 245 00:18:05,923 --> 00:18:06,490 We work on this together. 246 00:18:06,490 --> 00:18:07,258 I know you're trying. 247 00:18:07,258 --> 00:18:07,958 I thought I'd just remind 248 00:18:07,958 --> 00:18:10,358 everyone everybody of that 249 00:18:12,562 --> 00:18:13,330 right now. 250 00:18:13,330 --> 00:18:14,131 Item number Uh, there was 251 00:18:14,131 --> 00:18:17,731 another item I guess the closed 252 00:18:18,268 --> 00:18:18,669 session the item about Brown 253 00:18:18,669 --> 00:18:20,669 Act issues. 254 00:18:22,339 --> 00:18:23,700 It seems like you're being 255 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:25,407 there's Brown Act violations 256 00:18:27,111 --> 00:18:27,611 going on again that you're 257 00:18:27,611 --> 00:18:29,611 having to address. 258 00:18:31,748 --> 00:18:32,449 I know that the Council and 259 00:18:32,449 --> 00:18:33,150 City government of California 260 00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:36,750 really love the rules of order 261 00:18:36,820 --> 00:18:37,521 and they follow that to 262 00:18:37,521 --> 00:18:38,155 the letter and that's forms of 263 00:18:38,155 --> 00:18:40,155 representational democracy 264 00:18:41,592 --> 00:18:42,326 representation in public it's 265 00:18:42,326 --> 00:18:45,326 more internalized, it's more of 266 00:18:46,831 --> 00:18:47,431 an egalitarian list of 267 00:18:47,431 --> 00:18:48,132 parliamentary procedures 268 00:18:48,132 --> 00:18:51,732 whereas the Brown Act is more 269 00:18:51,736 --> 00:18:52,469 you know, the open is a bit 270 00:18:52,469 --> 00:18:54,869 more democratic process created 271 00:18:56,173 --> 00:18:59,773 by legislature or you know, our 272 00:19:00,711 --> 00:19:01,412 public and we have a public 273 00:19:01,412 --> 00:19:02,790 that really wants to practice 274 00:19:02,790 --> 00:19:04,790 open participatory democracy 275 00:19:05,616 --> 00:19:06,250 where you guys in the city 276 00:19:06,250 --> 00:19:06,750 government always want to 277 00:19:06,750 --> 00:19:07,451 practice you know 278 00:19:07,451 --> 00:19:09,451 representational democracy and 279 00:19:10,154 --> 00:19:10,788 egalitarianism parliamentary 280 00:19:10,788 --> 00:19:13,188 procedures and that's more 281 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:16,260 secretive and hidden and it 282 00:19:16,260 --> 00:19:16,694 makes things uncomfortable. 283 00:19:16,694 --> 00:19:19,430 I hope we really want to be, 284 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:20,300 you know, making the effort to 285 00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:20,765 want to explore open 286 00:19:20,765 --> 00:19:23,165 participatory democracy is good 287 00:19:24,903 --> 00:19:25,536 procedure ideas and how to 288 00:19:25,536 --> 00:19:25,869 understand our issues more 289 00:19:25,869 --> 00:19:27,869 clearly. 290 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:30,908 We don't have to think of it 291 00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:34,579 mob rule I can go on for a long 292 00:19:34,579 --> 00:19:35,113 time about this and 293 00:19:35,113 --> 00:19:35,746 the goodness of open 294 00:19:35,746 --> 00:19:37,746 participant participatory 295 00:19:38,716 --> 00:19:39,317 democracy When it is time we 296 00:19:39,317 --> 00:19:39,917 can practice it better. 297 00:19:39,917 --> 00:19:42,317 Let's hope we can. 298 00:19:43,588 --> 00:19:47,188 I also wanted to conclude that 299 00:19:47,258 --> 00:19:47,959 I do for item the second item i 300 00:19:47,959 --> 00:19:48,693 i'm not remembering its nature 301 00:19:48,693 --> 00:19:52,293 probably right now I'm going to 302 00:19:52,296 --> 00:19:53,300 have to pass Good luck that you 303 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:54,899 can fix the council zoom issues 304 00:19:54,899 --> 00:19:58,499 at this time and snappers thank 305 00:20:01,472 --> 00:20:01,806 you for your time and patience 306 00:20:01,806 --> 00:20:02,639 . 307 00:20:02,639 --> 00:20:05,977 Your time is concluded and I 308 00:20:05,977 --> 00:20:06,711 can I go now or I just want to 309 00:20:06,711 --> 00:20:06,978 make sure I'm not being skipped 310 00:20:06,978 --> 00:20:08,978 on. 311 00:20:10,248 --> 00:20:14,152 Oh I that's okay Now it's a 312 00:20:14,152 --> 00:20:15,190 really echoey I'm just trying 313 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:19,257 to keep you guys up to date but 314 00:20:19,257 --> 00:20:20,225 I could hear Blair very clear. 315 00:20:20,225 --> 00:20:20,925 I felt like I was on the phone 316 00:20:20,925 --> 00:20:24,295 with him and you sound like 317 00:20:24,295 --> 00:20:24,962 you're in a tunnel or 318 00:20:24,962 --> 00:20:25,562 something, But anyway, I'll 319 00:20:25,562 --> 00:20:25,930 just thank you for your 320 00:20:25,930 --> 00:20:27,930 patience. 321 00:20:28,533 --> 00:20:28,933 Please proceed. 322 00:20:28,933 --> 00:20:30,000 Okay. 323 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,904 I'm going to speak on all of 324 00:20:32,904 --> 00:20:33,204 them. 325 00:20:33,204 --> 00:20:33,872 Yes. 326 00:20:33,872 --> 00:20:34,672 I appreciate you, Blair and 327 00:20:34,672 --> 00:20:38,442 what you had to say about all 328 00:20:38,442 --> 00:20:42,420 that with this season one with 329 00:20:42,714 --> 00:20:43,481 the JANUARY flooding that had 330 00:20:43,481 --> 00:20:44,181 taken place And you know, you 331 00:20:44,181 --> 00:20:47,181 guys are countersuing many of 332 00:20:48,253 --> 00:20:48,919 these people And that's what's 333 00:20:48,919 --> 00:20:49,687 so sad is that you're even 334 00:20:49,687 --> 00:20:52,570 asking and coming at the people 335 00:20:52,570 --> 00:20:54,457 for $5 Billion because this 336 00:20:56,260 --> 00:20:57,280 storm infrastructure is 337 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:57,729 basically at its end of life 338 00:20:57,729 --> 00:20:58,290 and we shouldn't be in that 339 00:20:58,290 --> 00:21:00,290 place. 340 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:01,699 So it's a little bit scary to 341 00:21:01,699 --> 00:21:02,199 think about what could take 342 00:21:02,199 --> 00:21:04,199 place knowing that 343 00:21:05,937 --> 00:21:06,805 the infrastructure is still not 344 00:21:06,805 --> 00:21:07,605 going to be at a place where 345 00:21:07,605 --> 00:21:11,205 it's going to be able to 346 00:21:11,476 --> 00:21:12,143 sustain anything especially 347 00:21:12,143 --> 00:21:12,844 when weather modification is 348 00:21:12,844 --> 00:21:16,470 happening Like I talked to you 349 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:16,680 guys all the time and during 350 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:17,315 that flood there was cloud 351 00:21:17,315 --> 00:21:17,983 seeding happening before, 352 00:21:17,983 --> 00:21:20,983 during and after the storm. 353 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:21,719 So if that happens again or in 354 00:21:21,719 --> 00:21:24,719 some pretty big and that's 355 00:21:25,690 --> 00:21:26,358 just going to cause more money 356 00:21:26,358 --> 00:21:27,920 from the people because you 357 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,661 guys in the city didn't do what 358 00:21:30,661 --> 00:21:31,463 has been necessary over decades 359 00:21:31,463 --> 00:21:34,966 of time to make sure that this 360 00:21:34,966 --> 00:21:35,534 infrastructure was up kept so 361 00:21:35,534 --> 00:21:36,340 it's just ridiculous. 362 00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:36,701 And then with this 363 00:21:36,701 --> 00:21:38,701 cybersecurity stuff there's 364 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:40,739 nothing insecure. 365 00:21:40,739 --> 00:21:41,406 Phones aren't secure, Your 366 00:21:41,406 --> 00:21:42,107 computers are not secure No 367 00:21:42,107 --> 00:21:44,709 matter what you do, everything 368 00:21:44,709 --> 00:21:45,543 is able to be hacked. 369 00:21:45,543 --> 00:21:49,143 But outside of that data is 370 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:50,515 being sold in subscription 371 00:21:50,515 --> 00:21:51,349 basis. 372 00:21:51,349 --> 00:21:54,653 We know that with like a open 373 00:21:54,653 --> 00:21:55,420 lock and all that but then it's 374 00:21:55,420 --> 00:21:55,987 like you don't put that into 375 00:21:55,987 --> 00:21:57,987 everything else where 376 00:21:59,891 --> 00:22:00,692 everything isn't secure But 377 00:22:00,692 --> 00:22:01,359 when data gets sold and shared 378 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,359 and transferred from here to 379 00:22:04,596 --> 00:22:05,263 there and this and that. 380 00:22:05,263 --> 00:22:05,997 So it's like and what's 381 00:22:05,997 --> 00:22:06,665 worrisome is that you know, you 382 00:22:06,665 --> 00:22:09,634 guys want to bring in things 383 00:22:09,634 --> 00:22:10,401 like A.I. That's going to make 384 00:22:10,401 --> 00:22:13,401 things even less secure and 385 00:22:14,739 --> 00:22:15,373 less you know, have an ability 386 00:22:15,373 --> 00:22:17,773 because it elucidates and 387 00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:19,711 that's another thing is that it 388 00:22:19,711 --> 00:22:20,245 takes all our freshwater all 389 00:22:20,245 --> 00:22:22,245 these data centers. 390 00:22:23,515 --> 00:22:24,217 So it's like you just I just 391 00:22:24,217 --> 00:22:24,983 don't feel like it's sad that 392 00:22:24,983 --> 00:22:28,387 you don't think about things in 393 00:22:28,387 --> 00:22:28,954 a logical way that you would 394 00:22:28,954 --> 00:22:31,354 make sure that you're 395 00:22:32,557 --> 00:22:33,192 protecting people from 396 00:22:33,192 --> 00:22:33,859 the dangers of things you 397 00:22:33,859 --> 00:22:36,259 actually literally like per 398 00:22:37,161 --> 00:22:38,290 basis head on to it. 399 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:38,730 And with the Brown Act I mean 400 00:22:38,730 --> 00:22:41,130 you don't even uphold 401 00:22:42,534 --> 00:22:43,235 the Constitution and you're 402 00:22:43,235 --> 00:22:43,868 constantly violating the Brown 403 00:22:43,868 --> 00:22:44,169 Act and Robert's Rules of 404 00:22:44,169 --> 00:22:46,169 Order. 405 00:22:47,139 --> 00:22:48,600 So it's like it doesn't matter 406 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,877 how many rules get put in place 407 00:22:51,877 --> 00:22:52,577 or policy it's like you're 408 00:22:52,577 --> 00:22:55,577 always you're breaking the law 409 00:22:55,981 --> 00:22:56,615 with what you guys do and 410 00:22:56,615 --> 00:22:57,349 the Constitution should be 411 00:22:57,349 --> 00:23:00,949 the very first thing that you 412 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,200 uphold. 413 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,754 I mean you take an oath to it. 414 00:23:02,754 --> 00:23:05,523 The other things you don't take 415 00:23:05,523 --> 00:23:06,191 an oath to like all these other 416 00:23:06,191 --> 00:23:06,992 things which you can't even, 417 00:23:06,992 --> 00:23:10,763 you know, take an oath and make 418 00:23:10,763 --> 00:23:11,463 sure that you stand in that and 419 00:23:11,463 --> 00:23:12,197 go we're not going to violate 420 00:23:12,197 --> 00:23:15,266 this type of things like coming 421 00:23:15,266 --> 00:23:15,901 after people's guns that right 422 00:23:15,901 --> 00:23:16,601 shall not be infringed our 423 00:23:16,601 --> 00:23:19,100 First Amendment right freedom 424 00:23:19,972 --> 00:23:20,639 of the press like you just 425 00:23:20,639 --> 00:23:24,239 being able to live our lives 426 00:23:25,177 --> 00:23:25,843 There's it's just it's sad So 427 00:23:25,843 --> 00:23:26,477 it's like you know but here 428 00:23:26,477 --> 00:23:27,179 we're going to be spending 429 00:23:27,179 --> 00:23:29,948 money and hopefully this will 430 00:23:29,948 --> 00:23:30,516 make you guys course correct 431 00:23:30,516 --> 00:23:31,183 and start doing things 432 00:23:31,183 --> 00:23:31,884 differently so that we don't 433 00:23:31,884 --> 00:23:32,751 have to have this type of 434 00:23:32,751 --> 00:23:35,751 litigation come down the pike 435 00:23:44,329 --> 00:23:44,863 all the time that I've I've 436 00:23:44,863 --> 00:23:45,763 never been to China. 437 00:23:45,763 --> 00:23:47,500 I'll talk to them Basically I'm 438 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,500 going to give my perspective 439 00:24:19,698 --> 00:24:21,698 and 440 00:24:25,337 --> 00:24:25,771 it's not So we'd like to 441 00:24:25,771 --> 00:24:27,771 speak briefly. 442 00:24:29,141 --> 00:24:29,742 John Stump speaking the audio 443 00:24:29,742 --> 00:24:32,142 is completely goofed up. 444 00:24:33,779 --> 00:24:37,979 You got a big echo and my 445 00:24:38,683 --> 00:24:39,319 comments are really for a 446 00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:41,719 closed session non agenda. 447 00:24:43,550 --> 00:24:43,722 So when you get to that I hope 448 00:24:43,722 --> 00:24:46,722 we can have the audio 449 00:24:47,994 --> 00:24:50,994 straightened out Call me back 450 00:24:54,330 --> 00:24:54,500 for non agenda comment. 451 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:54,867 >> Okay. 452 00:24:54,867 --> 00:24:55,634 Thank you. 453 00:24:55,634 --> 00:24:59,234 Did you mean non agenda number 454 00:25:10,216 --> 00:25:10,983 one comment I under 455 00:25:10,983 --> 00:25:13,983 understanding you do you hear 456 00:25:15,421 --> 00:25:16,220 the echo you've got yes they're 457 00:25:16,220 --> 00:25:18,422 working on the technical 458 00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:22,920 difficulties okay you're going 459 00:25:23,962 --> 00:25:28,162 to call me back for non agenda 460 00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:29,702 the thing but you know your 461 00:25:29,702 --> 00:25:32,102 presentation is not working 462 00:25:33,973 --> 00:25:37,573 correctly thank you We will get 463 00:25:39,912 --> 00:25:40,446 in touch with you on and 464 00:25:40,446 --> 00:25:42,846 the last one because 465 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:44,650 the meeting and then that 87 466 00:25:44,650 --> 00:25:45,585 100 please when you close 467 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:49,785 session I know you like to be 468 00:25:52,910 --> 00:25:52,859 careful Wow Thank you so much. 469 00:25:52,859 --> 00:25:56,459 I don't know the name of 470 00:25:56,896 --> 00:25:59,896 the person that is at 471 00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:02,334 the control there for working 472 00:26:02,334 --> 00:26:02,801 of the technology. 473 00:26:02,801 --> 00:26:03,569 But thank you. 474 00:26:03,569 --> 00:26:05,969 Thank you everybody who's 475 00:26:06,705 --> 00:26:07,273 helping. 476 00:26:07,273 --> 00:26:07,573 >> Love you all. 477 00:26:07,573 --> 00:26:08,808 Okay. 478 00:26:08,808 --> 00:26:11,208 All three items please. 479 00:26:14,547 --> 00:26:15,348 You'll have a choice. 480 00:26:15,348 --> 00:26:18,948 And yet the district three I 481 00:26:19,385 --> 00:26:20,152 can't really hear you Barely. 482 00:26:20,152 --> 00:26:23,752 But I hope I'm in there. 483 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:24,390 Well, let me shut off my chair 484 00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:24,824 . 485 00:26:24,824 --> 00:26:25,458 That's better. 486 00:26:25,458 --> 00:26:28,458 Okay, so all three items 487 00:26:28,961 --> 00:26:29,429 floating a litigation and here 488 00:26:29,429 --> 00:26:31,429 is my direction. 489 00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:34,300 Most of us know why there are 490 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:36,700 57 people raising their hands 491 00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:38,738 out to us. 492 00:26:38,738 --> 00:26:42,338 The perfect storm What is our 493 00:26:43,343 --> 00:26:44,210 ally for? 494 00:26:44,210 --> 00:26:45,178 It makes us look at our city 495 00:26:45,178 --> 00:26:47,947 and what makes it work or not 496 00:26:47,947 --> 00:26:48,715 work. 497 00:26:48,715 --> 00:26:52,315 And this ally showed us what 498 00:26:52,385 --> 00:26:52,986 doesn't work This is not 499 00:26:52,986 --> 00:26:56,586 the city we want to be. 500 00:26:57,223 --> 00:26:57,523 This is not the city we need to 501 00:26:57,523 --> 00:26:58,458 be. 502 00:26:58,458 --> 00:27:02,610 We need to put one very simple 503 00:27:02,610 --> 00:27:02,361 thing into the plaintiff's 504 00:27:02,361 --> 00:27:02,961 hands. 505 00:27:02,961 --> 00:27:05,961 Show them that we care. 506 00:27:07,433 --> 00:27:08,101 Then we can follow the letter 507 00:27:08,101 --> 00:27:08,435 of the law and the spirit of 508 00:27:08,435 --> 00:27:10,435 the law. 509 00:27:11,971 --> 00:27:12,672 Love to all. 510 00:27:12,672 --> 00:27:15,672 Number two Cyber security Here 511 00:27:16,509 --> 00:27:17,277 is my direction. 512 00:27:17,277 --> 00:27:17,610 We are not alone in this 513 00:27:17,610 --> 00:27:19,610 matter. 514 00:27:21,347 --> 00:27:22,148 It is happening exponentially 515 00:27:22,148 --> 00:27:25,748 faster than we perhaps can keep 516 00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:31,491 up with it while back I spoke 517 00:27:31,491 --> 00:27:33,891 of the nation's $1.5 trillion 518 00:27:35,161 --> 00:27:36,620 debt of under an I t update 519 00:27:36,620 --> 00:27:39,620 modernization and so forth Here 520 00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:42,499 public This item is 521 00:27:44,170 --> 00:27:44,941 confidential yet it is up to us 522 00:27:44,941 --> 00:27:48,541 to be stewards of knowledge on 523 00:27:49,576 --> 00:27:50,277 this matter and also to support 524 00:27:50,277 --> 00:27:53,877 our city in its efforts to 525 00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:55,248 bring it under control as best 526 00:27:55,248 --> 00:27:57,248 they can. 527 00:27:59,619 --> 00:28:00,286 Love to all and less see as 528 00:28:00,286 --> 00:28:02,686 three Brown Act litigation. 529 00:28:04,357 --> 00:28:05,158 I wasn't sure what I wanted or 530 00:28:05,158 --> 00:28:09,296 needed to say on this matter so 531 00:28:09,296 --> 00:28:12,896 it's not direction per say it's 532 00:28:13,533 --> 00:28:14,334 just this litigation is for 533 00:28:14,334 --> 00:28:17,934 moments like this life has a 534 00:28:18,304 --> 00:28:19,400 way of creating them So we can 535 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:19,339 work together more and foster 536 00:28:19,339 --> 00:28:21,339 growth. 537 00:28:23,543 --> 00:28:23,944 Love to all Well praise GOD. 538 00:28:23,944 --> 00:28:24,311 Hallelujah. 539 00:28:24,311 --> 00:28:26,311 Thank you. 540 00:28:27,714 --> 00:28:31,314 Have a beautiful day On behalf 541 00:28:38,225 --> 00:28:38,692 of Council PRESIDENT Like I'm 542 00:28:38,692 --> 00:28:39,580 crazy for sure. 543 00:28:39,580 --> 00:28:39,726 All right. 544 00:28:39,726 --> 00:28:41,328 Thank you, Deputy Clerk, for 545 00:28:41,328 --> 00:28:42,950 navigating that challenge. 546 00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:42,662 We will now recess in 547 00:28:42,662 --> 00:28:45,620 the closed session and 548 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,199 reconvene council today at 2 549 00:33:45,135 --> 00:33:48,135 P.M. Or shortly thereafter 550 00:36:02,473 --> 00:36:03,173 and 551 00:36:03,173 --> 00:36:03,873 All right, good afternoon. 552 00:36:03,873 --> 00:36:04,508 >> I will convene the city 553 00:36:04,508 --> 00:36:06,510 council meeting on Monday, 554 00:36:06,510 --> 00:36:07,177 MARCH 16th, 2026. 555 00:36:07,177 --> 00:36:07,543 Clerk Please call the roll. 556 00:36:07,543 --> 00:36:09,543 Thank you. 557 00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:12,749 Council PRESIDENT Council 558 00:36:12,749 --> 00:36:13,317 Member Campbell here Council 559 00:36:13,317 --> 00:36:15,317 Member Whitburn here. 560 00:36:17,321 --> 00:36:17,922 Council Member Foster 561 00:36:17,922 --> 00:36:18,622 Councilmember Ron Wilber 562 00:36:18,622 --> 00:36:21,458 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee 563 00:36:21,458 --> 00:36:22,158 here Councilmember Campos 564 00:36:22,158 --> 00:36:24,558 Council Member Moreno Present 565 00:36:26,930 --> 00:36:27,531 Council Member Ellen Rivera and 566 00:36:27,531 --> 00:36:27,865 Council PRESIDENT LaCava 567 00:36:27,865 --> 00:36:28,565 present. 568 00:36:28,565 --> 00:36:31,101 Also attending the meeting are 569 00:36:31,101 --> 00:36:31,802 Assistant City Attorney Leslie 570 00:36:31,802 --> 00:36:32,435 Fitzgerald, independent budget 571 00:36:32,435 --> 00:36:34,835 analyst Charles Monica and 572 00:36:35,772 --> 00:36:36,106 myself, our City Clerk Diana 573 00:36:36,106 --> 00:36:36,806 Fuentes. 574 00:36:36,806 --> 00:36:37,174 >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT 575 00:36:37,174 --> 00:36:37,874 All right. 576 00:36:37,874 --> 00:36:40,744 Thank you, City Clerk a quorum 577 00:36:40,744 --> 00:36:41,612 is now present. 578 00:36:41,612 --> 00:36:42,212 I see a lot of faces that I 579 00:36:42,212 --> 00:36:42,546 haven't seen in chambers 580 00:36:42,546 --> 00:36:44,546 before. 581 00:36:45,916 --> 00:36:46,784 Thank you for showing up. 582 00:36:46,784 --> 00:36:47,417 I'm sure we'll have a number of 583 00:36:47,417 --> 00:36:50,320 people calling in as well 584 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:50,987 rather than read the whole 585 00:36:50,987 --> 00:36:51,689 disruption warning language 586 00:36:51,689 --> 00:36:55,920 The most effective way for you 587 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:55,793 to communicate when you hear 588 00:36:55,793 --> 00:36:56,393 things you like or don't like 589 00:36:56,393 --> 00:36:59,393 is by using your thumbs. 590 00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:00,464 If you hear a speaker say 591 00:37:00,464 --> 00:37:04,640 something you like thumbs up it 592 00:37:04,401 --> 00:37:04,801 communicates to hear very 593 00:37:04,801 --> 00:37:05,536 effectively. 594 00:37:05,536 --> 00:37:09,136 If you hear something you don't 595 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,940 like thumbs down it is again a 596 00:37:09,940 --> 00:37:10,508 very easy way doesn't disrupt 597 00:37:10,508 --> 00:37:12,508 doesn't interfere with 598 00:37:14,311 --> 00:37:15,120 the speaker's ability to talk 599 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,120 to the council going forward. 600 00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:20,503 So I think an upset there with 601 00:37:20,503 --> 00:37:21,218 that. 602 00:37:21,218 --> 00:37:24,870 Do we have any comments from 603 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:24,822 the mayor's office, city 604 00:37:24,822 --> 00:37:25,522 council members, city attorney, 605 00:37:25,522 --> 00:37:27,922 independent budget analysts or 606 00:37:28,859 --> 00:37:29,226 city clerk, council member 607 00:37:29,226 --> 00:37:29,794 Thank you. 608 00:37:29,794 --> 00:37:30,527 Council PRESIDENT Over 609 00:37:30,527 --> 00:37:33,830 the weekend we had a couple of 610 00:37:33,830 --> 00:37:34,197 anti lgbt incidents in 611 00:37:34,197 --> 00:37:36,197 Hillcrest. 612 00:37:37,735 --> 00:37:38,302 The first one involved 613 00:37:38,302 --> 00:37:40,302 harassment and slurs. 614 00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:42,873 That was bad enough. 615 00:37:42,873 --> 00:37:43,607 The second one was worse. 616 00:37:43,607 --> 00:37:46,607 A person was repeatedly punched 617 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:47,511 in the face by somebody yelling 618 00:37:47,511 --> 00:37:48,345 transgender slurs. 619 00:37:48,345 --> 00:37:51,482 I can report that the suspect 620 00:37:51,482 --> 00:37:52,149 in that second attack was 621 00:37:52,149 --> 00:37:52,849 arrested thanks to the quick 622 00:37:52,849 --> 00:37:55,849 work of our police department. 623 00:37:56,353 --> 00:37:57,121 But since we had two incidents 624 00:37:57,121 --> 00:37:57,822 in one weekend, I want to state 625 00:37:57,822 --> 00:38:00,222 this publicly There are 626 00:38:01,225 --> 00:38:01,892 multiple streetlight cameras 627 00:38:01,892 --> 00:38:02,459 and automated license plate 628 00:38:02,459 --> 00:38:04,459 readers in Hillcrest. 629 00:38:06,463 --> 00:38:07,134 I requested them in response to 630 00:38:07,134 --> 00:38:10,134 hate crimes against the lgbt 631 00:38:11,569 --> 00:38:12,269 community since they were 632 00:38:12,269 --> 00:38:13,300 installed they have been used 633 00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:15,403 successfully to arrest suspects 634 00:38:16,441 --> 00:38:17,141 in lgbt hate crimes Do not come 635 00:38:17,141 --> 00:38:20,141 to Hillcrest to commit crimes. 636 00:38:21,379 --> 00:38:22,790 Hillcrest is a wonderful 637 00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:22,846 neighborhood where people feel 638 00:38:22,846 --> 00:38:26,250 free to be whoever they are If 639 00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:26,951 you don't like that don't come 640 00:38:26,951 --> 00:38:30,551 because be aware that if you 641 00:38:31,455 --> 00:38:32,189 come to Hillcrest to commit 642 00:38:32,189 --> 00:38:32,823 hate crimes we have streetlight 643 00:38:32,823 --> 00:38:35,223 cameras, we have automated 644 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:36,760 license plate readers and we 645 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,361 have a police department that 646 00:38:37,361 --> 00:38:40,361 will use those tools to 647 00:38:40,765 --> 00:38:41,332 identify you, catch you and 648 00:38:41,332 --> 00:38:41,699 bring you to justice. 649 00:38:41,699 --> 00:38:42,366 Thank you. 650 00:38:42,366 --> 00:38:44,766 Council PRESIDENT Thank you 651 00:38:45,903 --> 00:38:46,404 Council member and City Clerk. 652 00:38:46,404 --> 00:38:48,404 >> Thank you. 653 00:38:50,541 --> 00:38:51,275 Council PRESIDENT During this 654 00:38:51,275 --> 00:38:52,900 morning's public comment period 655 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:52,710 on the closed session agenda we 656 00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:55,110 did experience some technical 657 00:38:55,146 --> 00:38:55,746 difficulties with those 658 00:38:55,746 --> 00:38:56,347 participating Virtually 659 00:38:56,347 --> 00:38:56,714 the issues have now been 660 00:38:56,714 --> 00:38:58,714 resolved. 661 00:38:59,584 --> 00:39:00,284 We want to reassure those who 662 00:39:00,284 --> 00:39:00,951 provided virtual comments that 663 00:39:00,951 --> 00:39:01,518 the City Council was able to 664 00:39:01,518 --> 00:39:03,518 hear comments provided 665 00:39:05,489 --> 00:39:05,957 virtually before convening into 666 00:39:05,957 --> 00:39:06,658 closed session. 667 00:39:06,658 --> 00:39:07,325 We think the public for their 668 00:39:07,325 --> 00:39:09,325 continued participation and 669 00:39:10,561 --> 00:39:11,329 cooperation. 670 00:39:11,329 --> 00:39:11,696 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT 671 00:39:11,696 --> 00:39:12,620 All right. 672 00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:12,663 Thank you. 673 00:39:12,663 --> 00:39:13,640 Not see anybody else in 674 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640 the lights. 675 00:39:15,366 --> 00:39:16,000 Clerk Please go over how 676 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,367 the public can offer their 677 00:39:16,367 --> 00:39:16,801 testimony. 678 00:39:16,801 --> 00:39:18,801 >> Thank you. 679 00:39:20,605 --> 00:39:21,405 Council PRESIDENT Excuse me I 680 00:39:21,405 --> 00:39:25,500 will now offer how the how 681 00:39:25,743 --> 00:39:26,244 the off how the public can 682 00:39:26,244 --> 00:39:26,978 offer their public 683 00:39:26,978 --> 00:39:27,545 participation Today I'd like to 684 00:39:27,545 --> 00:39:29,945 highlight the slide on 685 00:39:30,281 --> 00:39:30,948 the screen that reviews this 686 00:39:30,948 --> 00:39:31,683 The order can be found on 687 00:39:31,683 --> 00:39:34,683 the agenda summary found online 688 00:39:35,253 --> 00:39:35,620 or at the table in the back of 689 00:39:35,620 --> 00:39:36,420 the room. 690 00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:40,591 It is the last page on that 691 00:39:40,591 --> 00:39:41,326 packet If you are in person 692 00:39:41,326 --> 00:39:41,959 please complete two speakers up 693 00:39:41,959 --> 00:39:42,559 located at the entrance of 694 00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:45,396 chambers and bring it to 695 00:39:45,396 --> 00:39:45,830 the front of the room in 696 00:39:45,830 --> 00:39:46,564 the clear box. 697 00:39:46,564 --> 00:39:47,331 If you are seating time please 698 00:39:47,331 --> 00:39:50,101 be sure to submit both speaker 699 00:39:50,101 --> 00:39:50,835 slips or the additional speaker 700 00:39:50,835 --> 00:39:51,569 slips all together at one time. 701 00:39:51,569 --> 00:39:53,569 Council Ambassadors Ambassadors 702 00:39:55,607 --> 00:39:56,340 are available near the entrance 703 00:39:56,340 --> 00:39:57,410 of chambers and can assist with 704 00:39:57,410 --> 00:40:00,410 questions and speakers Lips No 705 00:40:00,511 --> 00:40:01,279 further in-person testimony 706 00:40:01,279 --> 00:40:01,980 will be taken once the council 707 00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:04,380 begins Virtual Testimony Thank 708 00:40:05,783 --> 00:40:06,840 you Council PRESIDENT All 709 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:06,684 right. 710 00:40:06,684 --> 00:40:09,840 Thank you for that. 711 00:40:09,587 --> 00:40:09,954 And with that please introduce 712 00:40:09,954 --> 00:40:10,855 item 200. 713 00:40:10,855 --> 00:40:14,455 >> Item 200 is a city of San 714 00:40:14,893 --> 00:40:15,459 Diego crime briefing JANUARY 715 00:40:15,459 --> 00:40:17,459 through DECEMBER 2025. 716 00:40:20,665 --> 00:40:21,533 This is an informational item 717 00:40:21,533 --> 00:40:22,233 If you'd like to speak to this 718 00:40:22,233 --> 00:40:22,933 item please be sure to submit 719 00:40:22,933 --> 00:40:25,637 your speakers up to the front 720 00:40:25,637 --> 00:40:26,270 of the room in the clear box or 721 00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:26,938 if you're participating 722 00:40:26,938 --> 00:40:27,606 virtually now's the time to 723 00:40:27,606 --> 00:40:30,800 raise your hand by pressing 724 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:30,374 Star nine or the raise your 725 00:40:30,374 --> 00:40:31,109 hand icon. 726 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:34,109 Thank you Council PRESIDENT And 727 00:40:35,213 --> 00:40:35,980 thank you for that introducing 728 00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:39,580 that item And as we see 729 00:40:40,452 --> 00:40:41,186 the chief and staff settle in 730 00:40:41,186 --> 00:40:41,887 please introduce yourselves for 731 00:40:41,887 --> 00:40:45,389 the record and let us know how 732 00:40:45,389 --> 00:40:45,824 much time you need for your 733 00:40:45,824 --> 00:40:46,324 presentation. 734 00:40:46,324 --> 00:40:47,240 >> Good afternoon. 735 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:49,424 Council PRESIDENT LaCava Scott 736 00:40:50,662 --> 00:40:54,262 Walsh Chief of Police And we 737 00:40:54,465 --> 00:40:55,133 will need about 15 minutes for 738 00:40:55,133 --> 00:40:55,433 procedure when you're ready. 739 00:40:55,433 --> 00:40:55,900 Okay. 740 00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:57,900 Good afternoon. 741 00:40:59,871 --> 00:41:00,505 Good afternoon. 742 00:41:00,505 --> 00:41:01,139 PRESIDENT Of the Covenant 743 00:41:01,139 --> 00:41:01,473 Honorable members of City 744 00:41:01,473 --> 00:41:02,174 Council. 745 00:41:02,174 --> 00:41:05,430 I'm pleased to announce today 746 00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:05,644 that San Diego remains one of 747 00:41:05,644 --> 00:41:06,440 the safest big cities in 748 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440 the country. 749 00:41:09,447 --> 00:41:10,115 Last year crime dropped for 750 00:41:10,115 --> 00:41:10,815 the fourth year in a row. 751 00:41:10,815 --> 00:41:13,815 Some of our numbers haven't 752 00:41:14,285 --> 00:41:14,886 been this low since the 1960s 753 00:41:14,886 --> 00:41:17,286 and 70s when Santiago's 754 00:41:19,524 --> 00:41:19,924 population was far smaller than 755 00:41:19,924 --> 00:41:20,759 it is today. 756 00:41:20,759 --> 00:41:21,159 I want to highlight a few key 757 00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:23,159 statistics. 758 00:41:24,296 --> 00:41:26,296 Homicides fell by 25%. 759 00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:29,600 Our homicide unit solved 26 of 760 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:29,901 the ten murders committed last 761 00:41:29,901 --> 00:41:31,901 year. 762 00:41:34,306 --> 00:41:34,740 And Alpers helped us solve a 763 00:41:34,740 --> 00:41:36,740 third of them. 764 00:41:38,410 --> 00:41:40,810 Vehicle thefts dropped by 22%. 765 00:41:42,514 --> 00:41:43,248 Alpers helped us arrest 199 766 00:41:43,248 --> 00:41:46,818 people for auto theft last year 767 00:41:46,818 --> 00:41:47,585 and hate crimes dropped by 32%. 768 00:41:47,585 --> 00:41:51,185 I know each of you have 769 00:41:52,291 --> 00:41:52,991 specific areas of interest and 770 00:41:52,991 --> 00:41:53,324 we will discuss those in more 771 00:41:53,324 --> 00:41:53,992 detail. 772 00:41:53,992 --> 00:41:57,592 But it's important to take a 773 00:41:57,996 --> 00:41:58,597 moment to recognize what this 774 00:41:58,597 --> 00:41:59,298 data means for our city. 775 00:41:59,298 --> 00:41:59,964 I often say the public safety 776 00:41:59,964 --> 00:42:02,364 is a shared responsibility. 777 00:42:03,335 --> 00:42:04,350 It takes partnerships of all 778 00:42:04,350 --> 00:42:07,350 kinds to prevent and solve 779 00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:09,508 crime including working with 780 00:42:09,508 --> 00:42:11,908 all of your officers. 781 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:14,913 We are better We are stronger 782 00:42:14,913 --> 00:42:15,647 and we are safer when we work 783 00:42:15,647 --> 00:42:19,247 together from all of our police 784 00:42:19,484 --> 00:42:20,185 officers and professional staff 785 00:42:20,185 --> 00:42:20,853 doing outstanding police work. 786 00:42:20,853 --> 00:42:21,386 To our business groups, our 787 00:42:21,386 --> 00:42:23,386 community groups and 788 00:42:24,756 --> 00:42:25,457 the various city departments 789 00:42:25,457 --> 00:42:26,157 like our fire department, our 790 00:42:26,157 --> 00:42:28,557 lifeguards, our park rangers, 791 00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:32,495 environmental services folks we 792 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:35,901 all are collaborating and have 793 00:42:35,901 --> 00:42:36,434 contributed to a decrease for 794 00:42:36,434 --> 00:42:37,102 the last four years. 795 00:42:37,102 --> 00:42:40,102 It happened because the city 796 00:42:41,306 --> 00:42:42,740 works together. 797 00:42:42,740 --> 00:42:42,841 It happened because we all care 798 00:42:42,841 --> 00:42:46,441 deeply about the safety of our 799 00:42:46,911 --> 00:42:47,612 neighborhoods. 800 00:42:47,612 --> 00:42:48,213 And it happened because we are 801 00:42:48,213 --> 00:42:48,847 working efficiently and 802 00:42:48,847 --> 00:42:49,247 effectively alongside our 803 00:42:49,247 --> 00:42:51,247 communities. 804 00:42:53,218 --> 00:42:53,885 And with that I'd like to turn 805 00:42:53,885 --> 00:42:54,687 it over to Jordan Fankhauser 806 00:42:54,687 --> 00:42:57,550 from our Crime Analysis Unit to 807 00:42:57,550 --> 00:42:57,389 share the 2025 Crime stats 808 00:42:57,389 --> 00:42:57,756 report. 809 00:42:57,756 --> 00:42:59,756 Thank you. 810 00:43:04,496 --> 00:43:05,230 Good afternoon. 811 00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:05,864 Council PRESIDENT LaCava and 812 00:43:05,864 --> 00:43:06,499 members of City Council as 813 00:43:06,499 --> 00:43:07,166 chief mentioned and Jordan 814 00:43:07,166 --> 00:43:07,699 Fankhauser from the Sanford 815 00:43:07,699 --> 00:43:08,434 Police Department. 816 00:43:08,434 --> 00:43:09,167 I will be presenting the 2025 817 00:43:09,167 --> 00:43:09,467 crime stats for the city of San 818 00:43:09,467 --> 00:43:11,467 Diego. 819 00:43:13,505 --> 00:43:14,173 The statistics will be continue 820 00:43:14,173 --> 00:43:14,907 to be based on the national 821 00:43:14,907 --> 00:43:17,307 incident based reporting system 822 00:43:18,477 --> 00:43:19,211 or neighbors format as that is 823 00:43:19,211 --> 00:43:19,611 our official reporting standard 824 00:43:19,611 --> 00:43:20,278 to the fbi. 825 00:43:20,278 --> 00:43:20,946 The neighbors format allows 826 00:43:20,946 --> 00:43:23,946 crime statistics to be more 827 00:43:24,183 --> 00:43:24,884 comprehensive with additional 828 00:43:24,884 --> 00:43:25,584 crime categories and increased 829 00:43:25,584 --> 00:43:29,121 accuracy as they are no longer 830 00:43:29,121 --> 00:43:29,821 based on static monthly totals 831 00:43:29,821 --> 00:43:30,455 but are updated as cases are 832 00:43:30,455 --> 00:43:30,756 reported investigated over 833 00:43:30,756 --> 00:43:31,123 time. 834 00:43:31,123 --> 00:43:33,123 All right. 835 00:43:35,627 --> 00:43:36,395 Compared to 2024, overall crime 836 00:43:36,395 --> 00:43:38,795 is decreased 6.3% and crime 837 00:43:41,701 --> 00:43:42,140 clearances to just slightly up 838 00:43:42,140 --> 00:43:42,734 2.7%. 839 00:43:42,734 --> 00:43:46,334 As a reminder, an fbi crime 840 00:43:47,172 --> 00:43:47,907 clearance constitutes an 841 00:43:47,907 --> 00:43:48,507 offense that has been closed by 842 00:43:48,507 --> 00:43:49,800 an arrest or some other 843 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,800 exceptional means. 844 00:43:52,544 --> 00:43:53,145 For example, the offender was 845 00:43:53,145 --> 00:43:53,813 already serving a prison 846 00:43:53,813 --> 00:43:54,547 sentence for another crime. 847 00:43:54,547 --> 00:43:58,147 Looking at the five year trends 848 00:43:58,451 --> 00:43:59,850 for each category we can see 849 00:43:59,850 --> 00:43:59,719 the crimes against society 850 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:00,352 experienced an increase in 851 00:44:00,352 --> 00:44:03,455 which we will go into more 852 00:44:03,455 --> 00:44:04,122 detail later. 853 00:44:04,122 --> 00:44:04,857 Most notably crimes against 854 00:44:04,857 --> 00:44:07,857 property has continued to track 855 00:44:09,228 --> 00:44:09,928 well below our recent trends. 856 00:44:09,928 --> 00:44:10,662 Crimes and crimes by category. 857 00:44:10,662 --> 00:44:14,262 This slide shows the year over 858 00:44:14,733 --> 00:44:15,468 year comparison for all three 859 00:44:15,468 --> 00:44:16,135 numbers Categories by volume as 860 00:44:16,135 --> 00:44:19,135 is typical of crimes against 861 00:44:20,205 --> 00:44:20,973 property accounts for the bulk 862 00:44:20,973 --> 00:44:21,607 of offenses and overall totals. 863 00:44:21,607 --> 00:44:22,307 Since these categories are 864 00:44:22,307 --> 00:44:25,307 still fairly new in California 865 00:44:25,845 --> 00:44:26,545 with respect to discussing 866 00:44:26,545 --> 00:44:27,280 crime statistics I'll briefly 867 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:27,713 define them for familiarization 868 00:44:27,713 --> 00:44:29,713 going forward. 869 00:44:32,151 --> 00:44:32,818 Per the fbi crimes against 870 00:44:32,818 --> 00:44:33,486 persons for example murder, 871 00:44:33,486 --> 00:44:35,886 intimidation and assault are 872 00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:37,557 those whose victims are always 873 00:44:37,557 --> 00:44:38,190 individuals. 874 00:44:38,190 --> 00:44:38,858 The burglary the object of 875 00:44:38,858 --> 00:44:41,258 crimes against property for 876 00:44:43,229 --> 00:44:43,929 example robbery, bribery or 877 00:44:43,929 --> 00:44:44,630 burglary is to obtain money or 878 00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:47,630 some other some other benefit. 879 00:44:48,267 --> 00:44:48,935 And lastly crimes against 880 00:44:48,935 --> 00:44:49,602 society for example alcohol 881 00:44:49,602 --> 00:44:51,602 offenses, prostitution, drug 882 00:44:54,373 --> 00:44:55,740 violations, etc. Represent 883 00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:55,741 society's prohibition against 884 00:44:55,741 --> 00:44:56,309 engaging in certain types of 885 00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:58,709 activity And these are 886 00:44:59,378 --> 00:44:59,979 typically reflective of police 887 00:44:59,979 --> 00:45:02,379 enforcement actions of a 888 00:45:06,850 --> 00:45:06,719 specific offense. 889 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,285 Numbers Crimes Clearances. 890 00:45:07,285 --> 00:45:07,920 This slide highlights 891 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,889 the clearance rates of all 892 00:45:09,889 --> 00:45:10,189 three categories for both 2024 893 00:45:10,189 --> 00:45:10,857 2025. 894 00:45:10,857 --> 00:45:11,557 As you can see all three 895 00:45:11,557 --> 00:45:13,557 categories remained relatively 896 00:45:15,328 --> 00:45:17,728 similar year over year. 897 00:45:20,867 --> 00:45:21,500 It's important to highlight 898 00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:22,168 the crimes against society 899 00:45:22,168 --> 00:45:22,735 tends to remain at an almost 900 00:45:22,735 --> 00:45:23,469 100% clearance rate as 901 00:45:23,469 --> 00:45:27,690 the majority of the offenses in 902 00:45:27,606 --> 00:45:28,241 that category comprise of 903 00:45:28,241 --> 00:45:28,907 events in which an officer 904 00:45:28,907 --> 00:45:29,542 arrests an individual during 905 00:45:29,542 --> 00:45:32,542 the commission of the act. 906 00:45:32,611 --> 00:45:33,379 The most recent fbi data 907 00:45:33,379 --> 00:45:35,779 available which was in 2024 908 00:45:36,983 --> 00:45:37,717 shows a national average of 909 00:45:37,717 --> 00:45:40,117 41.9% clearance rate for crimes 910 00:45:41,821 --> 00:45:44,821 against persons a 16.6 rate for 911 00:45:45,524 --> 00:45:46,225 crimes against property and a 912 00:45:46,225 --> 00:45:48,625 35.7% rate for all categories 913 00:45:51,864 --> 00:45:52,565 Combined crimes against persons 914 00:45:52,565 --> 00:45:53,299 Overall our first category of 915 00:45:53,299 --> 00:45:53,933 crimes against persons was down 916 00:45:53,933 --> 00:45:55,933 3% compared to 2020 For 917 00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:59,205 homicides which were down 19%. 918 00:45:59,205 --> 00:46:01,205 Comprised of 2027 confirmed 919 00:46:03,209 --> 00:46:03,909 murder investigations and 12 920 00:46:03,909 --> 00:46:04,610 traffic related offenses such 921 00:46:04,610 --> 00:46:07,610 as dui related manslaughter or 922 00:46:08,348 --> 00:46:09,215 hit and run. 923 00:46:09,215 --> 00:46:09,849 San Diego has not seen murder 924 00:46:09,849 --> 00:46:12,249 cases this low since 1968. 925 00:46:14,154 --> 00:46:14,754 Both aggravated assaults and 926 00:46:14,754 --> 00:46:15,421 non-fatal shootings have 927 00:46:15,421 --> 00:46:17,821 continued to see decreases. 928 00:46:19,292 --> 00:46:19,826 Notably a 96 non-fatal 929 00:46:19,826 --> 00:46:21,826 shootings for 2025. 930 00:46:24,970 --> 00:46:24,664 That is a 63% decrease since a 931 00:46:24,664 --> 00:46:25,265 recent spike in 2021. 932 00:46:25,265 --> 00:46:27,265 The kidnaping abduction 933 00:46:28,234 --> 00:46:28,901 category saw a decrease of 19% 934 00:46:28,901 --> 00:46:29,536 and was comprised mostly of 935 00:46:29,536 --> 00:46:30,203 offenses related to false 936 00:46:30,203 --> 00:46:32,203 imprisonment associated with 937 00:46:34,174 --> 00:46:34,874 domestic violence or other 938 00:46:34,874 --> 00:46:35,541 assault related events within 939 00:46:35,541 --> 00:46:37,941 the sexual assault category 940 00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:40,213 which saw an overall decrease 941 00:46:40,213 --> 00:46:40,947 of 7%. 942 00:46:40,947 --> 00:46:41,681 Rape accounts for approximately 943 00:46:41,681 --> 00:46:45,281 half of the offenses other than 944 00:46:45,819 --> 00:46:46,519 rape. 945 00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:47,153 The sexual assault category 946 00:46:47,153 --> 00:46:47,820 includes offenses such as 947 00:46:47,820 --> 00:46:48,154 forcible fondling or sexual 948 00:46:48,154 --> 00:46:50,154 battery. 949 00:46:52,324 --> 00:46:53,250 The 2025 clearance rate for 950 00:46:53,250 --> 00:46:55,395 crimes against persons at 49% 951 00:46:55,395 --> 00:46:55,996 was very similar to 2024 and 952 00:46:55,996 --> 00:46:57,996 was nearly 10% above 953 00:47:02,501 --> 00:47:03,203 the national average. 954 00:47:03,203 --> 00:47:03,569 Nonfatal shootings by council 955 00:47:03,569 --> 00:47:04,304 district. 956 00:47:04,304 --> 00:47:06,606 This chart highlights non-fatal 957 00:47:06,606 --> 00:47:07,207 shootings by council district 958 00:47:07,207 --> 00:47:07,941 for both 2024 and 2025. 959 00:47:07,941 --> 00:47:09,941 In 2025 nonfatal shootings 960 00:47:12,979 --> 00:47:13,680 decreased by 25 cases compared 961 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,800 to 2024 with notable decreases 962 00:47:18,552 --> 00:47:19,219 across most of our districts. 963 00:47:19,219 --> 00:47:19,919 Crimes against property Our 964 00:47:19,919 --> 00:47:22,919 second category here shows a 965 00:47:25,292 --> 00:47:25,992 decrease of 12% overall. 966 00:47:25,992 --> 00:47:26,693 As a reminder robbery even 967 00:47:26,693 --> 00:47:29,930 though potentially violent in 968 00:47:31,331 --> 00:47:31,998 nature is classified as a crime 969 00:47:31,998 --> 00:47:32,599 against property as the fbi 970 00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:33,265 considers the intent of 971 00:47:33,265 --> 00:47:33,966 the crime to obtain property 972 00:47:33,966 --> 00:47:36,966 despite the presence of force 973 00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:37,804 or fear being used. 974 00:47:37,804 --> 00:47:38,504 Robbery was down again in 2025 975 00:47:38,504 --> 00:47:40,904 with 35% of offenses occurring 976 00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:43,577 while armed and only 4% 977 00:47:43,577 --> 00:47:45,577 involving carjackings. 978 00:47:47,380 --> 00:47:47,881 Typically robberies make up 979 00:47:47,881 --> 00:47:48,582 approximately 8%. 980 00:47:48,582 --> 00:47:49,181 Typically carjackings make up 981 00:47:49,181 --> 00:47:49,549 approximately 80% of all 982 00:47:49,549 --> 00:47:51,549 robberies. 983 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,221 Overall. 984 00:47:54,221 --> 00:47:54,888 Total robberies have not been 985 00:47:54,888 --> 00:47:55,188 this low in San Diego since 986 00:47:55,188 --> 00:47:57,188 1970. 987 00:48:00,826 --> 00:48:01,427 Both robberies from a structure 988 00:48:01,427 --> 00:48:03,827 and vehicle saw notable 989 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:05,664 decreases in 2025 as well at 990 00:48:05,664 --> 00:48:06,233 23% and 25% respectively. 991 00:48:06,233 --> 00:48:06,800 Following a trend with 992 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,800 the robbery category. 993 00:48:10,670 --> 00:48:11,405 Robberies have not seen similar 994 00:48:11,405 --> 00:48:12,390 numbers in the city since 1959. 995 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:14,439 Most notably continuing a 996 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:17,344 significant downward trend for 997 00:48:17,344 --> 00:48:18,780 2024. 998 00:48:18,780 --> 00:48:20,478 Motor vehicle theft experienced 999 00:48:22,149 --> 00:48:22,749 a 22% decrease citywide 1000 00:48:22,749 --> 00:48:23,417 clearance rates for this 1001 00:48:23,417 --> 00:48:24,840 category remained similar to 1002 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:24,751 the year prior at 13%, which 1003 00:48:24,751 --> 00:48:27,751 was slightly below the most 1004 00:48:28,788 --> 00:48:29,422 recent national average. 1005 00:48:29,422 --> 00:48:29,789 Vehicle thefts by Council 1006 00:48:29,789 --> 00:48:30,390 district. 1007 00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:32,790 The chart represented on 1008 00:48:34,228 --> 00:48:34,962 the slide depicts vehicle 1009 00:48:34,962 --> 00:48:35,496 thefts by council district both 1010 00:48:35,496 --> 00:48:37,496 years 2024 and 2025. 1011 00:48:40,267 --> 00:48:40,868 As you can see all districts 1012 00:48:40,868 --> 00:48:41,335 experienced decreases in 1013 00:48:41,335 --> 00:48:42,350 vehicle thefts. 1014 00:48:42,350 --> 00:48:42,736 It's notable that our southern 1015 00:48:42,736 --> 00:48:45,736 border region and downtown are 1016 00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:47,407 often the areas with 1017 00:48:47,407 --> 00:48:48,410 the highest concentration of 1018 00:48:48,410 --> 00:48:48,776 stolen vehicles citywide. 1019 00:48:48,776 --> 00:48:51,176 However, there were significant 1020 00:48:51,578 --> 00:48:52,279 decreases in both District 1021 00:48:52,279 --> 00:48:54,679 three and 8 in 2025 accounting 1022 00:48:55,749 --> 00:48:56,383 for a large portion of 1023 00:48:56,383 --> 00:48:57,840 the overall 22% decrease. 1024 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,840 Vehicle thefts across the city 1025 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:00,620 have not been this low since 1026 00:49:00,620 --> 00:49:01,288 1972. 1027 00:49:01,288 --> 00:49:04,288 Crimes against society are a 1028 00:49:06,593 --> 00:49:07,227 diverse category depicted here 1029 00:49:07,227 --> 00:49:07,895 as crimes against society. 1030 00:49:07,895 --> 00:49:08,195 To reiterate from a previous 1031 00:49:08,195 --> 00:49:08,829 slide. 1032 00:49:08,829 --> 00:49:11,229 Crimes against society are 1033 00:49:11,932 --> 00:49:12,633 generally offenses in which an 1034 00:49:12,633 --> 00:49:13,300 individual is arrested during 1035 00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:14,100 the condition of the act and 1036 00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:17,100 are often a representation of 1037 00:49:18,172 --> 00:49:18,639 enforcement actions taken by 1038 00:49:18,639 --> 00:49:19,339 the department. 1039 00:49:19,339 --> 00:49:20,700 Increases in offenses of this 1040 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:22,407 category do not immediately 1041 00:49:23,444 --> 00:49:24,144 indicate an increase in 1042 00:49:24,144 --> 00:49:24,712 criminal activity but instead 1043 00:49:24,712 --> 00:49:25,446 increases in proactive 1044 00:49:25,446 --> 00:49:27,846 enforcement by police agencies. 1045 00:49:29,850 --> 00:49:30,517 Overall this category has seen 1046 00:49:30,517 --> 00:49:31,218 a 6% increase over 2020 for 1047 00:49:31,218 --> 00:49:33,618 the most significant increases 1048 00:49:36,323 --> 00:49:36,991 to note in this category. 1049 00:49:36,991 --> 00:49:37,590 Represented by both drug and 1050 00:49:37,590 --> 00:49:37,957 narcotics and loitering 1051 00:49:37,957 --> 00:49:39,957 offenses. 1052 00:49:40,994 --> 00:49:41,662 Increased enforcement related 1053 00:49:41,662 --> 00:49:42,196 to the late 2024 passing of 1054 00:49:42,196 --> 00:49:42,829 Proposition 36 which 1055 00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:44,829 strengthens penalties for 1056 00:49:47,340 --> 00:49:47,735 repeat theft and drug offenses 1057 00:49:47,735 --> 00:49:48,435 resulted in increases in both 1058 00:49:48,435 --> 00:49:49,360 the drug narcotics category as 1059 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,436 well as significantly in 1060 00:49:52,772 --> 00:49:53,407 loitering. 1061 00:49:53,407 --> 00:49:54,410 The Department of Justice 1062 00:49:54,410 --> 00:49:54,775 classifies the offense of 1063 00:49:54,775 --> 00:49:58,345 loitering in a public place for 1064 00:49:58,345 --> 00:49:58,779 illegal drug activities under 1065 00:49:58,779 --> 00:49:59,547 this category. 1066 00:49:59,547 --> 00:50:02,547 So while illegal lodging or 1067 00:50:03,583 --> 00:50:04,185 curfew offenses MAY be present 1068 00:50:04,185 --> 00:50:04,885 ,approximately 60% of 1069 00:50:04,885 --> 00:50:05,319 loitering offenses are related 1070 00:50:05,319 --> 00:50:05,919 to narcotics. 1071 00:50:05,919 --> 00:50:08,319 Other categories of note 1072 00:50:09,757 --> 00:50:10,457 include trespassing offenses 1073 00:50:10,457 --> 00:50:11,910 increasing by 10% and alcohol 1074 00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:13,910 violations experiencing 9% 1075 00:50:15,362 --> 00:50:15,996 uptick primarily due to 1076 00:50:15,996 --> 00:50:16,697 increases in dui arrests. 1077 00:50:16,697 --> 00:50:19,970 As highlighted earlier, rates 1078 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:22,636 remain at close to the 100% 1079 00:50:22,636 --> 00:50:23,237 mark for this category as 1080 00:50:23,237 --> 00:50:23,904 majority of the offenses 1081 00:50:23,904 --> 00:50:25,506 encompassed are enforcement 1082 00:50:25,506 --> 00:50:28,506 related and the offenders are 1083 00:50:31,445 --> 00:50:31,751 generally arrested at the scene 1084 00:50:31,751 --> 00:50:32,413 . 1085 00:50:32,413 --> 00:50:32,780 Crime categories by Council 1086 00:50:32,780 --> 00:50:33,346 District. 1087 00:50:33,346 --> 00:50:34,480 This slide highlights 1088 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,480 the overall nine crime numbers 1089 00:50:37,785 --> 00:50:38,486 crime distribution by council 1090 00:50:38,486 --> 00:50:39,860 district broken down into each 1091 00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:39,787 crimes against category. 1092 00:50:39,787 --> 00:50:43,387 As you can see crimes against 1093 00:50:43,758 --> 00:50:44,425 property depicted in blue 1094 00:50:44,425 --> 00:50:45,126 account for the majority of 1095 00:50:45,126 --> 00:50:45,726 offenses in to each district. 1096 00:50:45,726 --> 00:50:48,726 All of the districts are 1097 00:50:49,863 --> 00:50:50,565 decreasing overall crime 1098 00:50:50,565 --> 00:50:51,232 depicted by the percent change 1099 00:50:51,232 --> 00:50:54,601 at the top of each column as 1100 00:50:54,601 --> 00:50:57,100 compared to 2020 For historical 1101 00:50:59,740 --> 00:51:00,474 crime rate comparison since 1102 00:51:00,474 --> 00:51:01,174 2025 was only the fourth year 1103 00:51:01,174 --> 00:51:04,774 in a row of decreased overall 1104 00:51:05,379 --> 00:51:05,980 crime since 2021 but one of 1105 00:51:05,980 --> 00:51:06,714 Hallmark numbers and key 1106 00:51:06,714 --> 00:51:07,348 categories we find it important 1107 00:51:07,348 --> 00:51:10,348 to display a slightly more 1108 00:51:10,618 --> 00:51:11,319 macro view of crime in the city 1109 00:51:11,319 --> 00:51:11,919 Since we began collecting 1110 00:51:11,919 --> 00:51:12,519 uniform crime reporting 1111 00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,519 statistics back in 1954. 1112 00:51:16,557 --> 00:51:17,125 Historical comparison purposes 1113 00:51:17,125 --> 00:51:17,859 We're using the older 1114 00:51:17,859 --> 00:51:18,159 definitions of violent property 1115 00:51:18,159 --> 00:51:20,159 crime. 1116 00:51:21,162 --> 00:51:21,863 In this case we're looking at 1117 00:51:21,863 --> 00:51:22,396 rates per 1000 individuals at 1118 00:51:22,396 --> 00:51:24,396 five year intervals. 1119 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:27,670 As you can see following 1120 00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:27,702 the severe uptick in 1121 00:51:27,702 --> 00:51:28,403 the property crime rate in 1122 00:51:28,403 --> 00:51:31,403 the 1970s primarily driven by 1123 00:51:32,807 --> 00:51:33,474 increases in larceny and a 1124 00:51:33,474 --> 00:51:34,208 smaller increases in violent 1125 00:51:34,208 --> 00:51:34,841 crime that year that both crime 1126 00:51:34,841 --> 00:51:36,841 rates peaked around 1990. 1127 00:51:39,847 --> 00:51:40,514 Following the early 90s for 1128 00:51:40,514 --> 00:51:41,249 property crime, the violent 1129 00:51:41,249 --> 00:51:43,584 crime gradually returned a rate 1130 00:51:43,584 --> 00:51:44,285 similar to what we were 1131 00:51:44,285 --> 00:51:44,819 experiencing in the 1950s and 1132 00:51:44,819 --> 00:51:45,486 1970s respectively. 1133 00:51:45,486 --> 00:51:46,220 It's important to note that 1134 00:51:46,220 --> 00:51:49,820 the population of San Diego has 1135 00:51:50,325 --> 00:51:50,591 tripled since those decades 1136 00:51:50,591 --> 00:51:51,225 ago. 1137 00:51:51,225 --> 00:51:54,225 Yet we remain at decreased 1138 00:51:55,930 --> 00:51:56,663 overall crime rates highlighted 1139 00:51:56,663 --> 00:51:57,332 highlighted in this letter gang 1140 00:51:57,332 --> 00:51:57,932 specific stats for both 2024 1141 00:51:57,932 --> 00:51:59,932 and 2025 depicting crime 1142 00:52:02,536 --> 00:52:03,238 activity by Category and total 1143 00:52:03,238 --> 00:52:03,904 documented gang members while 1144 00:52:03,904 --> 00:52:06,304 overall crimes committed by 1145 00:52:07,142 --> 00:52:07,575 known gang members have seen a 1146 00:52:07,575 --> 00:52:08,209 13% decrease. 1147 00:52:08,209 --> 00:52:08,909 Specifically violent gang 1148 00:52:08,909 --> 00:52:11,780 activity has increased arrests 1149 00:52:11,780 --> 00:52:14,780 of documented gang members has 1150 00:52:17,285 --> 00:52:18,520 also increased by 20%. 1151 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,853 Hate crimes There were 41 1152 00:52:18,853 --> 00:52:21,853 confirmed hate crimes last year 1153 00:52:22,924 --> 00:52:23,458 in the city of San Diego a 32% 1154 00:52:23,458 --> 00:52:23,991 decrease from 2024. 1155 00:52:23,991 --> 00:52:26,391 Hate crimes with an 1156 00:52:28,930 --> 00:52:29,697 anti-transgender anti-racist 1157 00:52:29,697 --> 00:52:30,197 and or sexual orientation have 1158 00:52:30,197 --> 00:52:32,197 all all decreased. 1159 00:52:33,867 --> 00:52:34,569 Most notably a 46% reduction in 1160 00:52:34,569 --> 00:52:34,903 sexual orientation based hate 1161 00:52:34,903 --> 00:52:36,903 crimes. 1162 00:52:39,407 --> 00:52:40,108 Anti-Racist crimes are 1163 00:52:40,108 --> 00:52:40,808 comprised of one incident per 1164 00:52:40,808 --> 00:52:41,242 race group with the exception 1165 00:52:41,242 --> 00:52:43,242 of anti-White. 1166 00:52:43,678 --> 00:52:44,279 The remaining four incidents 1167 00:52:44,279 --> 00:52:44,846 were mixed racial biases 1168 00:52:44,846 --> 00:52:45,480 Anti-religious crimes 1169 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,480 experienced a significant 1170 00:52:50,284 --> 00:52:50,919 increase throughout the early 1171 00:52:50,919 --> 00:52:51,553 months of the year with a 1172 00:52:51,553 --> 00:52:52,870 severe series of vandalism 1173 00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:54,870 focused on religious 1174 00:52:55,657 --> 00:52:56,257 institutions in the central 1175 00:52:56,257 --> 00:52:56,925 Division of San Diego. 1176 00:52:56,925 --> 00:52:57,591 These acts appear to be 1177 00:52:57,591 --> 00:52:58,326 randomly targeting religious 1178 00:52:58,326 --> 00:53:01,326 institutions in general and not 1179 00:53:01,763 --> 00:53:02,497 any one particular denomination 1180 00:53:02,497 --> 00:53:03,164 following the series earlier in 1181 00:53:03,164 --> 00:53:05,564 the year anti-religious hate 1182 00:53:08,103 --> 00:53:08,703 crimes continue to trend 1183 00:53:08,703 --> 00:53:09,403 similar to what has been 1184 00:53:09,403 --> 00:53:12,403 observed in previous years as 1185 00:53:13,174 --> 00:53:13,608 youngest leads doing this 1186 00:53:13,608 --> 00:53:14,342 presentation. 1187 00:53:14,342 --> 00:53:14,909 Overall crime in 2025 decreased 1188 00:53:14,909 --> 00:53:16,909 compared to 2024 with 1189 00:53:18,847 --> 00:53:19,346 significant declines across 1190 00:53:19,346 --> 00:53:20,140 major categories. 1191 00:53:20,140 --> 00:53:20,748 These decreases are in line 1192 00:53:20,748 --> 00:53:23,748 with the national trend amongst 1193 00:53:24,553 --> 00:53:25,253 major many major cities in 1194 00:53:25,253 --> 00:53:25,620 the United States during this 1195 00:53:25,620 --> 00:53:26,321 past year. 1196 00:53:26,321 --> 00:53:26,922 The city of San Diego not only 1197 00:53:26,922 --> 00:53:28,922 continues to experience 1198 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:31,793 decreased crime overall but 1199 00:53:31,793 --> 00:53:32,460 consistently demonstrates some 1200 00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:33,161 of the lowest violent crime 1201 00:53:33,161 --> 00:53:36,465 rates among major U.S. Cities. 1202 00:53:36,465 --> 00:53:37,232 This concludes our presentation 1203 00:53:37,232 --> 00:53:37,599 this time of year for any 1204 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:37,966 questions. 1205 00:53:37,966 --> 00:53:38,332 Thank you. 1206 00:53:38,332 --> 00:53:38,934 All right. 1207 00:53:38,934 --> 00:53:39,433 Thank you very much for 1208 00:53:39,433 --> 00:53:41,433 the presentation. 1209 00:53:43,205 --> 00:53:43,672 Clerk Please proceed with 1210 00:53:43,672 --> 00:53:44,105 public comment. 1211 00:53:44,105 --> 00:53:44,606 >> Thank you. 1212 00:53:44,606 --> 00:53:45,306 Council PRESIDENT. 1213 00:53:45,306 --> 00:53:48,709 We have some speakers here in 1214 00:53:48,709 --> 00:53:49,377 council chambers as well as 1215 00:53:49,377 --> 00:53:50,112 participating online and we 1216 00:53:50,112 --> 00:53:54,912 will be going to a minute and a 1217 00:53:56,418 --> 00:53:57,385 half each starting with pastors 1218 00:53:57,385 --> 00:53:57,886 and a if you can please come up 1219 00:53:57,886 --> 00:53:58,587 to the microphone. 1220 00:53:58,587 --> 00:53:59,321 Now the following individuals 1221 00:53:59,321 --> 00:54:02,230 can please come up to the other 1222 00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:02,557 reserved seats. 1223 00:54:02,557 --> 00:54:03,910 Robert Antivirals. 1224 00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:05,910 Dennis Friedlander. 1225 00:54:07,529 --> 00:54:08,329 Denise Friedman Blair Beckerman 1226 00:54:08,329 --> 00:54:08,597 ,Scott Chipman and Bob Casas 1227 00:54:08,597 --> 00:54:10,597 Kim. 1228 00:54:12,968 --> 00:54:13,468 Pastor you can have a minute 1229 00:54:13,468 --> 00:54:14,102 and a half. 1230 00:54:14,102 --> 00:54:14,469 Please proceed when ready. 1231 00:54:14,469 --> 00:54:15,269 Thank you. 1232 00:54:15,269 --> 00:54:18,269 It's a great honor and 1233 00:54:19,341 --> 00:54:19,741 privilege to be here before 1234 00:54:19,741 --> 00:54:20,441 the council. 1235 00:54:20,441 --> 00:54:23,441 And our collaboration of crime 1236 00:54:26,140 --> 00:54:26,681 stats going down We have 1237 00:54:26,681 --> 00:54:27,316 the philosophy that it truly 1238 00:54:27,316 --> 00:54:30,916 takes a village to raise a 1239 00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:31,753 child And with our wraparound 1240 00:54:31,753 --> 00:54:32,321 partners I represent 1241 00:54:32,321 --> 00:54:32,987 the Commission on Gang 1242 00:54:32,987 --> 00:54:34,987 Prevention and Intervention. 1243 00:54:36,625 --> 00:54:37,292 And one of the things 1244 00:54:37,292 --> 00:54:37,993 the feedback that I get from 1245 00:54:37,993 --> 00:54:40,993 other pastors in other cities 1246 00:54:42,764 --> 00:54:43,432 how do you guys keep crime down 1247 00:54:43,432 --> 00:54:45,832 being that you're sandwiched 1248 00:54:47,336 --> 00:54:48,360 between Tijuana which is a one 1249 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:48,704 of the cartel capitals and Los 1250 00:54:48,704 --> 00:54:49,710 Angeles, the gang capital of 1251 00:54:49,710 --> 00:54:51,710 the world? 1252 00:54:53,175 --> 00:54:53,842 How do you guys keep it down? 1253 00:54:53,842 --> 00:54:54,543 Number one is we have 1254 00:54:54,543 --> 00:54:55,244 the philosophy that those that 1255 00:54:55,244 --> 00:54:59,444 used to be part of the problem 1256 00:54:59,581 --> 00:55:00,348 are now part of the solution. 1257 00:55:00,348 --> 00:55:01,160 So we have what we called 1258 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,416 credible messengers or lived 1259 00:55:05,186 --> 00:55:05,954 experience Former gang members 1260 00:55:05,954 --> 00:55:06,555 that served time in prison and 1261 00:55:06,555 --> 00:55:07,289 now they're back out in 1262 00:55:07,289 --> 00:55:09,689 the community building rapport. 1263 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:12,728 They already have credibility 1264 00:55:12,728 --> 00:55:13,362 in their communities, community 1265 00:55:13,362 --> 00:55:14,280 leaders but being strength 1266 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,280 based using their what they 1267 00:55:17,665 --> 00:55:18,133 used to use for negativity, not 1268 00:55:18,133 --> 00:55:18,800 for positivity. 1269 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,568 We have guys like behind me 1270 00:55:19,568 --> 00:55:23,168 Rudy who has a criminal history 1271 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,700 really long criminal history. 1272 00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:25,574 Robert Different guys. 1273 00:55:25,574 --> 00:55:27,574 It's their testimony. 1274 00:55:29,778 --> 00:55:30,446 It's not saying that teaching 1275 00:55:30,446 --> 00:55:31,179 them but we also have faith 1276 00:55:31,179 --> 00:55:33,579 based leaders Cashbox Community 1277 00:55:35,484 --> 00:55:36,185 Assistance support teams and 1278 00:55:36,185 --> 00:55:36,719 faith based leaders, community 1279 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,719 based organizations. 1280 00:55:41,490 --> 00:55:42,124 We do walk in with the No Shots 1281 00:55:42,124 --> 00:55:42,791 fired and other community 1282 00:55:42,791 --> 00:55:44,791 organizations like Community 1283 00:55:47,596 --> 00:55:48,130 Wrap around Youth empowerment, 1284 00:55:48,130 --> 00:55:48,931 open heart leaders. 1285 00:55:48,931 --> 00:55:53,131 And so it takes a village and 1286 00:55:53,369 --> 00:55:54,336 the chief has been a champion 1287 00:55:54,336 --> 00:55:55,400 of this and every one of you as 1288 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:55,704 well have been a champion in 1289 00:55:55,704 --> 00:55:59,304 this And thank you for having 1290 00:56:01,977 --> 00:56:02,578 representation from your from 1291 00:56:02,578 --> 00:56:03,145 your district active in 1292 00:56:03,145 --> 00:56:03,813 the Commission on Gang 1293 00:56:03,813 --> 00:56:06,213 Prevention origin Sorry for 1294 00:56:06,515 --> 00:56:07,183 going over comments One of our 1295 00:56:07,183 --> 00:56:07,816 website owners will be going 1296 00:56:07,816 --> 00:56:08,484 over to get an additional 1297 00:56:08,484 --> 00:56:11,484 speakers up for them Ceding 1298 00:56:12,488 --> 00:56:13,255 time to you. 1299 00:56:13,255 --> 00:56:16,855 Thank you Robert Motivate us to 1300 00:56:18,827 --> 00:56:19,495 find a way for two seconds he 1301 00:56:19,495 --> 00:56:19,828 takes a no no no Please 1302 00:56:19,828 --> 00:56:21,828 proceed. 1303 00:56:24,333 --> 00:56:25,660 I thank you for having us here. 1304 00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:25,735 My name is Robert on with 1305 00:56:25,735 --> 00:56:26,402 Community Wraparound and I'm 1306 00:56:26,402 --> 00:56:29,371 here with my team and we're 1307 00:56:29,371 --> 00:56:29,972 here in support of the crime 1308 00:56:29,972 --> 00:56:30,839 stats to support you. 1309 00:56:30,839 --> 00:56:34,509 I know when you first came on 1310 00:56:34,509 --> 00:56:35,444 in the role he had had a vision 1311 00:56:35,444 --> 00:56:36,144 that he shared and I could be a 1312 00:56:36,144 --> 00:56:36,745 witness to that vision because 1313 00:56:36,745 --> 00:56:39,145 it's coming to fruition. 1314 00:56:41,490 --> 00:56:41,784 I've seen it where boots on 1315 00:56:41,784 --> 00:56:42,451 the ground as little experience 1316 00:56:42,451 --> 00:56:44,451 mentorship our organization 1317 00:56:47,188 --> 00:56:47,623 it's getting prevention 1318 00:56:47,623 --> 00:56:48,290 intervention. 1319 00:56:48,290 --> 00:56:48,991 That's what we specialize in 1320 00:56:48,991 --> 00:56:49,792 And so I just here to support 1321 00:56:49,792 --> 00:56:52,792 you Wall and everything you're 1322 00:56:53,763 --> 00:56:54,163 doing and just want to keep 1323 00:56:54,163 --> 00:56:54,830 that going. 1324 00:56:54,830 --> 00:56:58,430 We always say it's it's it's 1325 00:56:58,901 --> 00:56:59,668 not enough but you know what 1326 00:56:59,668 --> 00:57:00,369 It's a working in progress And 1327 00:57:00,369 --> 00:57:01,690 so we just need to keep going 1328 00:57:01,690 --> 00:57:04,690 and working together And just 1329 00:57:05,174 --> 00:57:05,841 like our pastor said that it 1330 00:57:05,841 --> 00:57:06,542 does take a village it takes 1331 00:57:06,542 --> 00:57:10,742 all of us to come together to 1332 00:57:11,130 --> 00:57:11,746 in order to get things done. 1333 00:57:11,746 --> 00:57:12,448 And so with the collaboration 1334 00:57:12,448 --> 00:57:16,480 with cpd, with also the vision 1335 00:57:17,185 --> 00:57:17,887 he shared with the youth 1336 00:57:17,887 --> 00:57:18,588 Central services that he also 1337 00:57:18,588 --> 00:57:19,288 brought on, we've been working 1338 00:57:19,288 --> 00:57:22,288 in collaboration with them as 1339 00:57:23,259 --> 00:57:23,926 well and just an example of 1340 00:57:23,926 --> 00:57:24,626 the collaboration of working 1341 00:57:24,626 --> 00:57:27,626 together is not arresting and 1342 00:57:29,365 --> 00:57:29,664 taking youth into custody right 1343 00:57:29,664 --> 00:57:30,499 away. 1344 00:57:30,499 --> 00:57:31,234 They call us to be able to find 1345 00:57:31,234 --> 00:57:31,834 out and figure out a way before 1346 00:57:31,834 --> 00:57:32,168 taking that you can take 1347 00:57:32,168 --> 00:57:34,168 custody. 1348 00:57:35,738 --> 00:57:36,205 So that's just one of 1349 00:57:36,205 --> 00:57:36,939 the examples of 1350 00:57:36,939 --> 00:57:37,507 the collaboration the work that 1351 00:57:37,507 --> 00:57:38,740 we're doing together. 1352 00:57:38,740 --> 00:57:39,942 So thank you so much. 1353 00:57:39,942 --> 00:57:40,609 Thank you very much. 1354 00:57:40,609 --> 00:57:43,900 >> Thanks for your time. 1355 00:57:46,315 --> 00:57:48,315 Let's go. 1356 00:57:51,954 --> 00:57:52,355 >> Well, yes, I'm the honorary 1357 00:57:52,355 --> 00:57:53,122 mayor apb. 1358 00:57:53,122 --> 00:57:53,489 And I've gotten here because of 1359 00:57:53,489 --> 00:57:55,489 this man. 1360 00:57:57,660 --> 00:57:58,294 He got me involved with 1361 00:57:58,294 --> 00:58:00,694 the community policing and 1362 00:58:03,933 --> 00:58:04,666 working in my community and now 1363 00:58:04,666 --> 00:58:05,340 spreading it out through all of 1364 00:58:05,340 --> 00:58:07,340 San Diego. 1365 00:58:09,539 --> 00:58:09,939 And I have worked with these 1366 00:58:09,939 --> 00:58:10,739 groups too. 1367 00:58:10,739 --> 00:58:13,739 I'm proud of everything that 1368 00:58:16,646 --> 00:58:17,513 has been accomplished. 1369 00:58:17,513 --> 00:58:18,114 I support you 100% And to all 1370 00:58:18,114 --> 00:58:21,114 the members of our beach 1371 00:58:22,552 --> 00:58:22,919 communities not just P.B. But 1372 00:58:22,919 --> 00:58:24,919 Claremont. 1373 00:58:28,124 --> 00:58:28,591 Ocean Beach Mission Beach. 1374 00:58:28,591 --> 00:58:29,292 La Hoya. 1375 00:58:29,292 --> 00:58:29,959 We all proudly support your 1376 00:58:29,959 --> 00:58:33,559 work and we look forward to 1377 00:58:34,430 --> 00:58:35,198 working with you this year. 1378 00:58:35,198 --> 00:58:35,765 So the crime statistics are 1379 00:58:35,765 --> 00:58:36,132 even lower next year. 1380 00:58:36,132 --> 00:58:37,233 Thank you. 1381 00:58:37,233 --> 00:58:39,233 Thank you. 1382 00:58:45,241 --> 00:58:46,420 Claire Beekman. 1383 00:58:46,420 --> 00:58:46,776 >> After Blair Mcmenemy Scott 1384 00:58:46,776 --> 00:58:49,776 Chipman and then Bob because 1385 00:58:50,213 --> 00:58:50,580 was All right. 1386 00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:52,580 Thank you. 1387 00:58:55,819 --> 00:58:56,519 Thanks a lot for this item. 1388 00:58:56,519 --> 00:58:56,952 It's really timely and helpful 1389 00:58:56,952 --> 00:58:57,720 and important. 1390 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,320 We have a lot of national 1391 00:59:01,724 --> 00:59:02,424 security issues at this time. 1392 00:59:02,424 --> 00:59:03,225 It's nice that this item is 1393 00:59:03,225 --> 00:59:06,696 here and we can have a 1394 00:59:06,696 --> 00:59:07,297 community conversation on 1395 00:59:07,297 --> 00:59:08,300 the intersection between 1396 00:59:08,300 --> 00:59:08,665 national security crime issues, 1397 00:59:08,665 --> 00:59:12,265 how we're going to work on 1398 00:59:13,336 --> 00:59:13,769 these issues at this kind of 1399 00:59:13,769 --> 00:59:14,204 fragile time. 1400 00:59:14,204 --> 00:59:16,204 Um good item. 1401 00:59:19,276 --> 00:59:19,976 Uh, nice to hear It's now been 1402 00:59:19,976 --> 00:59:22,976 four years of really reducing 1403 00:59:25,148 --> 00:59:25,748 crime in San Diego in cities 1404 00:59:25,748 --> 00:59:26,148 across the state if not 1405 00:59:26,148 --> 00:59:28,148 the country. 1406 00:59:30,954 --> 00:59:31,655 These are practices that we've 1407 00:59:31,655 --> 00:59:32,322 started in the previous Biden 1408 00:59:32,322 --> 00:59:33,560 administration basically And 1409 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,656 we've been trying to explain to 1410 00:59:37,293 --> 00:59:37,694 Trump that we have a good thing 1411 00:59:37,694 --> 00:59:38,261 going here. 1412 00:59:38,261 --> 00:59:41,261 You don't have to like 1413 00:59:42,699 --> 00:59:43,333 overwhelm an already good 1414 00:59:43,333 --> 00:59:44,340 situation we're building. 1415 00:59:44,340 --> 00:59:44,367 So thank you for this work and 1416 00:59:44,367 --> 00:59:46,367 effort. 1417 00:59:48,238 --> 00:59:48,972 It is with four years now of 1418 00:59:48,972 --> 00:59:49,606 continual good practices I hope 1419 00:59:49,606 --> 00:59:52,606 we can really look into 1420 00:59:53,610 --> 00:59:54,100 the ideas of responsible 1421 00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:54,578 technology. 1422 00:59:54,578 --> 00:59:54,978 I know you guys have a 1423 00:59:54,978 --> 00:59:55,344 philosophy. 1424 00:59:55,344 --> 00:59:57,344 We all do. 1425 01:00:00,417 --> 01:00:00,984 If it ain't broke don't fix it 1426 01:00:00,984 --> 01:00:01,451 or Yeah I ain't broke. 1427 01:00:01,451 --> 01:00:02,219 Don't fix it. 1428 01:00:02,219 --> 01:00:05,322 And so I'm sure you want to 1429 01:00:05,322 --> 01:00:06,230 keep moving on in the same 1430 01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:06,623 momentum but I think it's 1431 01:00:06,623 --> 01:00:07,324 really important as good 1432 01:00:07,324 --> 01:00:09,724 progressive practices we have 1433 01:00:12,620 --> 01:00:12,729 to be considering the concepts 1434 01:00:12,729 --> 01:00:13,430 of responsible surveillance 1435 01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:14,300 technology and not a bit more 1436 01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:17,300 of tech And we have 1437 01:00:18,368 --> 01:00:18,735 the capability to ask those 1438 01:00:18,735 --> 01:00:19,436 questions. 1439 01:00:19,436 --> 01:00:20,137 >> I hope in this coming year 1440 01:00:20,137 --> 01:00:20,537 we can be talking about those 1441 01:00:20,537 --> 01:00:22,537 good things. 1442 01:00:23,740 --> 01:00:24,508 Thank you. 1443 01:00:24,508 --> 01:00:25,208 >> Thank you, Scott Chipman And 1444 01:00:25,208 --> 01:00:28,208 I believe somebody was eating 1445 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,481 your time for this but then we 1446 01:00:31,481 --> 01:00:31,848 went back okay, I don't need it 1447 01:00:31,848 --> 01:00:32,582 for this. 1448 01:00:32,582 --> 01:00:35,582 I'm here also to congratulate 1449 01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:36,586 the chief and his staff. 1450 01:00:36,586 --> 01:00:37,354 Excellent work. 1451 01:00:37,354 --> 01:00:40,954 It should be noted that they're 1452 01:00:42,625 --> 01:00:45,625 running at about 10% down from 1453 01:00:47,531 --> 01:00:47,831 the budgeted number of officers 1454 01:00:47,831 --> 01:00:48,666 . 1455 01:00:48,666 --> 01:00:49,332 And I also noted and had an 1456 01:00:49,332 --> 01:00:51,732 opportunity to speak briefly 1457 01:00:53,904 --> 01:00:54,505 with him about the increase in 1458 01:00:54,505 --> 01:00:55,172 drug and alcohol crime. 1459 01:00:55,172 --> 01:00:58,772 Should be noted that if you 1460 01:00:59,509 --> 01:01:00,430 want to bring DUIs to near zero 1461 01:01:00,430 --> 01:01:00,577 just stop enforcing. 1462 01:01:00,577 --> 01:01:02,977 Don't look for them. 1463 01:01:04,815 --> 01:01:05,682 Don't do any saturation patrols 1464 01:01:05,682 --> 01:01:06,282 ,don't do any dui checkpoints. 1465 01:01:06,282 --> 01:01:07,500 And he assured me that 1466 01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,650 the reason things are going up 1467 01:01:11,387 --> 01:01:12,550 is because we're getting more 1468 01:01:12,550 --> 01:01:14,455 enforcement on those issues. 1469 01:01:16,693 --> 01:01:17,361 So this is obviously an 1470 01:01:17,361 --> 01:01:18,270 indication that the city and 1471 01:01:18,270 --> 01:01:20,427 the citizens who've promoted 1472 01:01:23,367 --> 01:01:24,670 Chief Wall made a great choice. 1473 01:01:24,670 --> 01:01:24,667 We look forward to the future 1474 01:01:24,667 --> 01:01:25,680 and doing even better in 1475 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,680 the future. 1476 01:01:29,172 --> 01:01:29,840 There's no community that 1477 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,474 supports the police any more 1478 01:01:30,474 --> 01:01:33,474 than Pacific Beach And so 1479 01:01:35,179 --> 01:01:36,460 congratulations. 1480 01:01:36,460 --> 01:01:37,214 >> Next is Bob because you if 1481 01:01:37,214 --> 01:01:40,814 you can please come up to 1482 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,555 the podium. 1483 01:01:44,555 --> 01:01:45,288 >> I'd like to add on to 1484 01:01:45,288 --> 01:01:48,888 Scott's comment that one way to 1485 01:01:48,959 --> 01:01:49,359 reduce crime is to simply not 1486 01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:50,127 report it. 1487 01:01:50,127 --> 01:01:50,827 I'm not going to address 1488 01:01:50,827 --> 01:01:51,462 the statute while because this 1489 01:01:51,462 --> 01:01:53,862 is something that happened 1490 01:01:55,565 --> 01:01:56,233 before his term and I don't 1491 01:01:56,233 --> 01:01:56,500 believe he's responsible for 1492 01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:57,201 it. 1493 01:01:57,201 --> 01:02:00,671 But I do want to share my own 1494 01:02:00,671 --> 01:02:01,405 experience trying to report a 1495 01:02:01,405 --> 01:02:02,106 crime that I encountered here 1496 01:02:02,106 --> 01:02:02,373 in San Diego a number of years 1497 01:02:02,373 --> 01:02:04,373 ago. 1498 01:02:07,811 --> 01:02:08,479 I was assaulted repeatedly by 1499 01:02:08,479 --> 01:02:08,812 the son of a former police 1500 01:02:08,812 --> 01:02:09,479 officer. 1501 01:02:09,479 --> 01:02:12,479 David Gelb was the police 1502 01:02:14,184 --> 01:02:14,485 officer and son was Gabriel 1503 01:02:14,485 --> 01:02:15,219 Gelb. 1504 01:02:15,219 --> 01:02:18,819 I went directly to the Northern 1505 01:02:18,889 --> 01:02:19,589 Division and stood there and 1506 01:02:19,589 --> 01:02:20,624 tried to fill out a police 1507 01:02:20,624 --> 01:02:25,424 report asked to do so And I was 1508 01:02:25,996 --> 01:02:26,697 told please go out, wait in 1509 01:02:26,697 --> 01:02:27,298 your car and we'll send an 1510 01:02:27,298 --> 01:02:27,631 officer out to take your 1511 01:02:27,631 --> 01:02:28,366 report. 1512 01:02:28,366 --> 01:02:31,301 Now I thought that was a little 1513 01:02:31,301 --> 01:02:31,902 strange but after about an hour 1514 01:02:31,902 --> 01:02:35,406 of waiting at the end of 1515 01:02:35,406 --> 01:02:36,173 the day I kind of figured no 1516 01:02:36,173 --> 01:02:36,840 one was coming out and they did 1517 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,840 not take that police report. 1518 01:02:42,790 --> 01:02:42,779 I went back again and again and 1519 01:02:42,779 --> 01:02:43,414 until I brought my lawyer with 1520 01:02:43,414 --> 01:02:47,140 me they refused to take a 1521 01:02:47,585 --> 01:02:47,951 report on Gabriel Jeff the son 1522 01:02:47,951 --> 01:02:48,719 of danger. 1523 01:02:48,719 --> 01:02:49,453 Now I know that there's got to 1524 01:02:49,453 --> 01:02:50,221 be camaraderie in the force and 1525 01:02:50,221 --> 01:02:54,258 I know you guys do a dangerous 1526 01:02:54,258 --> 01:02:54,930 job but please recognize that 1527 01:02:54,930 --> 01:02:55,659 part of the problem is that 1528 01:02:55,659 --> 01:02:58,428 your officers are sometimes not 1529 01:02:58,428 --> 01:02:58,796 taking reports against other 1530 01:02:58,796 --> 01:03:00,796 officers. 1531 01:03:05,502 --> 01:03:05,969 Thank you. 1532 01:03:05,969 --> 01:03:06,604 Thank you. 1533 01:03:06,604 --> 01:03:07,205 That does conclude public 1534 01:03:07,205 --> 01:03:07,572 comment here in council 1535 01:03:07,572 --> 01:03:08,239 chambers. 1536 01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:08,840 I'm starting those that are 1537 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,840 participating remotely. 1538 01:03:11,275 --> 01:03:11,876 We have seven speakers in 1539 01:03:11,876 --> 01:03:12,376 the queue starting with 1540 01:03:12,376 --> 01:03:14,376 Catherine Douglas. 1541 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:17,514 If you can please unmute. 1542 01:03:17,514 --> 01:03:18,249 Good afternoon. 1543 01:03:18,249 --> 01:03:18,883 This crime breaking report from 1544 01:03:18,883 --> 01:03:20,883 2025 is beyond impressive. 1545 01:03:23,253 --> 01:03:23,854 Chief Paul along with his 1546 01:03:23,854 --> 01:03:24,589 entire hardworking team 1547 01:03:24,589 --> 01:03:26,989 delivered these results through 1548 01:03:28,391 --> 01:03:28,993 precision based policing that 1549 01:03:28,993 --> 01:03:29,594 focused efforts on quick 1550 01:03:29,594 --> 01:03:30,610 apprehension and solving 1551 01:03:30,610 --> 01:03:32,610 violent crimes. 1552 01:03:35,166 --> 01:03:35,899 The use of game changing 1553 01:03:35,899 --> 01:03:36,567 technology such as smart street 1554 01:03:36,567 --> 01:03:38,967 lights and automated license 1555 01:03:40,338 --> 01:03:40,972 plate readers helped officers 1556 01:03:40,972 --> 01:03:42,972 apprehend suspects faster, 1557 01:03:46,109 --> 01:03:46,710 preventing subsequent offenses 1558 01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:47,412 and by fostering a 1559 01:03:47,412 --> 01:03:48,790 collaborative partnership with 1560 01:03:48,790 --> 01:03:50,479 the communities they serve. 1561 01:03:52,449 --> 01:03:56,490 One great example of this is 1562 01:03:56,220 --> 01:03:56,854 the Shots Fired initiative and 1563 01:03:56,854 --> 01:03:57,355 the group that spoke first 1564 01:03:57,355 --> 01:03:57,955 today in chambers. 1565 01:03:57,955 --> 01:03:58,523 I met them at the press 1566 01:03:58,523 --> 01:04:00,523 conference last week. 1567 01:04:03,940 --> 01:04:03,427 They're an amazing group of 1568 01:04:03,427 --> 01:04:04,270 people. 1569 01:04:04,270 --> 01:04:04,863 Well done Chief and team 1570 01:04:04,863 --> 01:04:08,463 policing is a demanding job at 1571 01:04:09,767 --> 01:04:10,435 our pd team has clearly done a 1572 01:04:10,435 --> 01:04:12,835 spectacular job and deserves 1573 01:04:14,338 --> 01:04:15,139 both our praise and support. 1574 01:04:15,139 --> 01:04:15,840 Public safety is the number one 1575 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:16,473 responsibility of government. 1576 01:04:16,473 --> 01:04:18,873 Please support our police 1577 01:04:20,478 --> 01:04:21,179 department and the f y 27 1578 01:04:21,179 --> 01:04:24,179 budget to continue this trend 1579 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:25,449 for the safety of every single 1580 01:04:25,449 --> 01:04:25,816 one of us. 1581 01:04:25,816 --> 01:04:26,184 Thank you. 1582 01:04:26,184 --> 01:04:26,985 Thank you. 1583 01:04:26,985 --> 01:04:30,585 Next is 8700 if you can please. 1584 01:04:31,122 --> 01:04:31,556 Um you After that the original 1585 01:04:31,556 --> 01:04:33,556 8700 star six. 1586 01:04:38,129 --> 01:04:38,996 Thank you. 1587 01:04:38,996 --> 01:04:39,831 Joy said you had a cd three. 1588 01:04:39,831 --> 01:04:42,831 Thank you, Chief Wall and 1589 01:04:43,635 --> 01:04:47,235 the rest of the cpd for 1590 01:04:48,706 --> 01:04:49,440 building more trust in how safe 1591 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:49,974 we feel in San Diego. 1592 01:04:49,974 --> 01:04:50,374 That's a big deal. 1593 01:04:50,374 --> 01:04:52,374 Thank you. 1594 01:04:55,146 --> 01:04:58,146 And the crime decreased again 1595 01:05:00,452 --> 01:05:01,190 this time by 6.3%. 1596 01:05:01,190 --> 01:05:01,853 Another big thank you. 1597 01:05:01,853 --> 01:05:05,453 Now I'm going to tweet my 1598 01:05:05,923 --> 01:05:06,625 comments to get I had a lot to 1599 01:05:06,625 --> 01:05:07,359 say but it changed because of 1600 01:05:07,359 --> 01:05:07,759 the public speakers just now in 1601 01:05:07,759 --> 01:05:09,759 the chamber. 1602 01:05:12,130 --> 01:05:15,130 But I'll start with this. 1603 01:05:17,769 --> 01:05:18,303 My like from the offense table 1604 01:05:18,303 --> 01:05:18,971 was clearance rate. 1605 01:05:18,971 --> 01:05:21,971 Oh skip that, Skip that. 1606 01:05:22,706 --> 01:05:23,341 Anyway, I had a question about 1607 01:05:23,341 --> 01:05:25,741 the district attorney not 1608 01:05:29,346 --> 01:05:30,181 issuing criminal charges. 1609 01:05:30,181 --> 01:05:30,849 And I wonder what percentage 1610 01:05:30,849 --> 01:05:31,549 that is And I wonder how she 1611 01:05:31,549 --> 01:05:34,549 was helping those people that 1612 01:05:35,287 --> 01:05:36,121 she was in charge. 1613 01:05:36,121 --> 01:05:36,821 So what happened is the public 1614 01:05:36,821 --> 01:05:39,821 speakers the first, second and 1615 01:05:41,459 --> 01:05:42,930 third I believe I hope they're 1616 01:05:42,930 --> 01:05:42,761 still there in the chamber 1617 01:05:42,761 --> 01:05:46,361 because I love them so much. 1618 01:05:47,265 --> 01:05:47,966 I honor their courage. 1619 01:05:47,966 --> 01:05:48,667 It's just tremendous what 1620 01:05:48,667 --> 01:05:49,266 they've done with their lives. 1621 01:05:49,266 --> 01:05:52,266 Thank you for coming and 1622 01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:54,105 sharing with us. 1623 01:05:54,105 --> 01:05:54,806 And I just want you to know 1624 01:05:54,806 --> 01:05:57,206 gang prevention and that 1625 01:05:59,344 --> 01:06:00,780 violence is so critical And I 1626 01:06:00,780 --> 01:06:00,545 was shocked to find out that it 1627 01:06:00,545 --> 01:06:00,978 goes to family. 1628 01:06:00,978 --> 01:06:02,978 It's a legacy. 1629 01:06:05,484 --> 01:06:06,840 It's a generation thing that is 1630 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:06,918 passed on and expected. 1631 01:06:06,918 --> 01:06:11,118 So what you did with your time 1632 01:06:11,189 --> 01:06:12,230 was completed. 1633 01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:12,724 >> My apologies the original if 1634 01:06:12,724 --> 01:06:13,224 you can please unmute and then 1635 01:06:13,224 --> 01:06:15,224 it's the gambler. 1636 01:06:17,950 --> 01:06:17,729 I'd like to give a warm handoff 1637 01:06:17,729 --> 01:06:18,630 to this of this propaganda 1638 01:06:18,630 --> 01:06:18,563 update. 1639 01:06:18,563 --> 01:06:20,563 Stephen Whitburn. 1640 01:06:22,968 --> 01:06:23,667 I find it very egregious 1641 01:06:23,667 --> 01:06:24,336 because there are many things 1642 01:06:24,336 --> 01:06:25,700 that are not being reported 1643 01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:28,700 especially in Tent City because 1644 01:06:28,906 --> 01:06:29,574 dreams for Change is actually 1645 01:06:29,574 --> 01:06:30,308 telling participants not to 1646 01:06:30,308 --> 01:06:33,308 report the sexual assaults that 1647 01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:36,147 are taking place. 1648 01:06:36,147 --> 01:06:36,815 The police sit and watch people 1649 01:06:36,815 --> 01:06:37,482 do that and all you guys get 1650 01:06:37,482 --> 01:06:40,482 people pipes and needles and 1651 01:06:40,986 --> 01:06:41,519 tests to test their drugs to 1652 01:06:41,519 --> 01:06:42,254 make sure it's not. 1653 01:06:42,254 --> 01:06:42,821 Then you also give them Narcan. 1654 01:06:42,821 --> 01:06:44,821 You're penalizing and 1655 01:06:46,425 --> 01:06:47,125 criminalizing homelessness 1656 01:06:47,125 --> 01:06:47,526 because you guys have nowhere 1657 01:06:47,526 --> 01:06:48,226 to put them. 1658 01:06:48,226 --> 01:06:50,626 Fentanyl is being distributed 1659 01:06:52,631 --> 01:06:53,298 throughout Tent City and being 1660 01:06:53,298 --> 01:06:53,899 done again right in front of 1661 01:06:53,899 --> 01:06:56,299 officers on the street. 1662 01:06:58,770 --> 01:06:59,404 And you can find little pieces 1663 01:06:59,404 --> 01:07:00,710 of foil all over the place 1664 01:07:00,710 --> 01:07:00,772 something that's potentially 1665 01:07:00,772 --> 01:07:03,772 dangerous even for the animals 1666 01:07:05,844 --> 01:07:06,511 that are just walking there or 1667 01:07:06,511 --> 01:07:07,212 potentially a child if they 1668 01:07:07,212 --> 01:07:07,846 wanted to pick it up and then 1669 01:07:07,846 --> 01:07:08,480 all of a sudden overdose. 1670 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,850 So and then when you have 1671 01:07:11,850 --> 01:07:12,584 the police who MAY or MAY not 1672 01:07:12,584 --> 01:07:13,252 take in a report, they actually 1673 01:07:13,252 --> 01:07:16,252 have the discretion to do 1674 01:07:17,689 --> 01:07:18,523 whatever they want. 1675 01:07:18,523 --> 01:07:19,190 So we have children that are 1676 01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:19,491 being kidnaped on a regular 1677 01:07:19,491 --> 01:07:21,491 basis. 1678 01:07:22,761 --> 01:07:23,328 There is a massive pedophilia 1679 01:07:23,328 --> 01:07:24,280 problem within the gay 1680 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,428 community within just children 1681 01:07:29,601 --> 01:07:29,968 in general being targeted in 1682 01:07:29,968 --> 01:07:30,636 San Diego. 1683 01:07:30,636 --> 01:07:31,269 It is very disturbing to see 1684 01:07:31,269 --> 01:07:34,269 these kinds of things take 1685 01:07:36,740 --> 01:07:36,809 place where you guys want to 1686 01:07:36,809 --> 01:07:37,376 paint a pretty picture that San 1687 01:07:37,376 --> 01:07:40,376 Diego is a safe place. 1688 01:07:41,446 --> 01:07:42,470 That is not true especially 1689 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:42,748 when you guys are 1690 01:07:42,748 --> 01:07:45,748 the gatekeepers of being able 1691 01:07:48,530 --> 01:07:48,753 to do any kind of pushing of 1692 01:07:48,753 --> 01:07:49,200 criminal activity or stopping 1693 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:49,455 it. 1694 01:07:49,455 --> 01:07:50,220 >> Thank you. 1695 01:07:50,220 --> 01:07:50,722 Your time is concluded 1696 01:07:50,722 --> 01:07:51,560 The gambler if you can please. 1697 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:51,724 I'm you. 1698 01:07:51,724 --> 01:07:55,324 And then after that is there 1699 01:07:57,962 --> 01:08:01,562 any Casco you guys doing today? 1700 01:08:03,350 --> 01:08:03,636 i mixed feelings on that but 1701 01:08:03,636 --> 01:08:06,360 primarily how much of 1702 01:08:09,775 --> 01:08:10,409 the reduction I did I like 1703 01:08:10,409 --> 01:08:11,430 the fact that there's more 1704 01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:11,710 police out of there and I 1705 01:08:11,710 --> 01:08:12,411 notice that they're a little 1706 01:08:12,411 --> 01:08:14,846 bit more active than they used 1707 01:08:14,846 --> 01:08:15,714 to be. 1708 01:08:15,714 --> 01:08:16,415 But what did that come to 1709 01:08:16,415 --> 01:08:17,116 Because the guys refused to do 1710 01:08:17,116 --> 01:08:20,286 things for years and years and 1711 01:08:20,286 --> 01:08:20,919 years even on the streets that 1712 01:08:20,919 --> 01:08:23,319 people really got killed. 1713 01:08:25,758 --> 01:08:26,458 So many people died in the last 1714 01:08:26,458 --> 01:08:27,192 four years because they chose 1715 01:08:27,192 --> 01:08:31,392 to look away And matter of fact 1716 01:08:31,464 --> 01:08:32,970 you have no backing by you by 1717 01:08:32,970 --> 01:08:35,970 the people sitting in this 1718 01:08:37,369 --> 01:08:38,103 court like anything from 1719 01:08:38,103 --> 01:08:38,904 throwing you under the bus They 1720 01:08:38,904 --> 01:08:42,504 would be That's a bad friggin 1721 01:08:44,900 --> 01:08:44,387 reality that we're faced with 1722 01:08:44,387 --> 01:08:46,387 today. 1723 01:08:49,514 --> 01:08:50,249 It is that people have full 1724 01:08:50,249 --> 01:08:50,583 control over our elections very 1725 01:08:50,583 --> 01:08:51,216 easily. 1726 01:08:51,216 --> 01:08:54,216 >> Anyone could go in and 1727 01:08:54,887 --> 01:08:55,187 register anyone and vote for 1728 01:08:55,187 --> 01:08:55,955 them. 1729 01:08:55,955 --> 01:08:56,555 There is no real checks and 1730 01:08:56,555 --> 01:08:58,955 balances and the Clinton 1731 01:09:00,992 --> 01:09:01,694 initiative is not going to pass 1732 01:09:01,694 --> 01:09:02,161 So we're going to be stuck in 1733 01:09:02,161 --> 01:09:02,961 that situation. 1734 01:09:02,961 --> 01:09:06,561 So what if it's just a 1735 01:09:07,299 --> 01:09:08,000 temporary retreat And then if 1736 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:08,634 you actually do something, are 1737 01:09:08,634 --> 01:09:11,634 you going to be prosecuted 1738 01:09:13,205 --> 01:09:13,906 immediately after Because 1739 01:09:13,906 --> 01:09:14,607 that's politically just I mean 1740 01:09:14,607 --> 01:09:18,207 right now would you go against 1741 01:09:18,911 --> 01:09:19,545 all of our money problem very 1742 01:09:19,545 --> 01:09:20,145 easily by adopting Julian 1743 01:09:20,145 --> 01:09:22,145 Brown's technology deal? 1744 01:09:23,949 --> 01:09:24,617 Oh no, because you make more 1745 01:09:24,617 --> 01:09:25,218 money personally if you go 1746 01:09:25,218 --> 01:09:25,918 ahead and go along with 1747 01:09:25,918 --> 01:09:28,918 the game because they're going 1748 01:09:30,889 --> 01:09:31,390 to go ahead and suppress and 1749 01:09:31,390 --> 01:09:31,757 control inventors. 1750 01:09:31,757 --> 01:09:32,358 >> Right. 1751 01:09:32,358 --> 01:09:34,758 Your time has concluded. 1752 01:09:38,564 --> 01:09:39,198 Ernie Pascoe, if you can please 1753 01:09:39,198 --> 01:09:39,899 a mute after that assuming 1754 01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:40,533 the five minute timer has also 1755 01:09:40,533 --> 01:09:41,134 concluded there were three 1756 01:09:41,134 --> 01:09:42,330 speakers in the queue no 1757 01:09:42,330 --> 01:09:42,335 additional speakers will be 1758 01:09:42,335 --> 01:09:42,802 taken. 1759 01:09:42,802 --> 01:09:44,802 Please proceed. 1760 01:09:47,707 --> 01:09:48,407 Her name Casco Laurie resident 1761 01:09:48,407 --> 01:09:49,107 Torrey Pines Bladder Port are 1762 01:09:49,107 --> 01:09:51,107 reporting serious allegations 1763 01:09:53,646 --> 01:09:54,347 to the real estate taxes 1764 01:09:54,347 --> 01:09:55,140 department and directly to you 1765 01:09:55,140 --> 01:09:58,140 Joe LaCava office at Torrey 1766 01:09:59,551 --> 01:10:00,860 Pines Cloud Report Where are 1767 01:10:00,860 --> 01:10:00,720 the police reports? 1768 01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:01,320 I refused to surrender my 1769 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,720 freedom under threat of 1770 01:10:04,724 --> 01:10:05,558 violence. 1771 01:10:05,558 --> 01:10:06,191 This is a negligent homicide 1772 01:10:06,191 --> 01:10:06,893 and attempted murder case 1773 01:10:06,893 --> 01:10:09,293 workplace violence or wrongful 1774 01:10:11,397 --> 01:10:11,964 termination Assault over 1775 01:10:11,964 --> 01:10:12,598 the death of a pilot. 1776 01:10:12,598 --> 01:10:15,598 It was attempted murder in 1777 01:10:16,903 --> 01:10:17,503 retaliation by switching my 1778 01:10:17,503 --> 01:10:18,104 wing that collapsed in 1779 01:10:18,104 --> 01:10:18,438 mid-flight crashing on a 1780 01:10:18,438 --> 01:10:19,138 rooftop. 1781 01:10:19,138 --> 01:10:22,738 My home was invaded twice Then 1782 01:10:22,809 --> 01:10:23,176 I was poisoned with a deadly 1783 01:10:23,176 --> 01:10:23,876 biohazard. 1784 01:10:23,876 --> 01:10:27,476 This is an ongoing hate crime 1785 01:10:28,614 --> 01:10:29,282 that needs to stop No citizen 1786 01:10:29,282 --> 01:10:29,782 should have their life under 1787 01:10:29,782 --> 01:10:30,416 threat or die over 1788 01:10:30,416 --> 01:10:30,816 the commercialization of a 1789 01:10:30,816 --> 01:10:32,816 public park. 1790 01:10:35,121 --> 01:10:35,622 It's time to stop the crime 1791 01:10:35,622 --> 01:10:36,322 With the permanent 1792 01:10:36,322 --> 01:10:37,230 reinstatement of Torrey Pines 1793 01:10:37,230 --> 01:10:40,230 Blade Port Advisory Board and 1794 01:10:41,127 --> 01:10:41,694 the immediate implementation of 1795 01:10:41,694 --> 01:10:42,427 the proposed San Diego 1796 01:10:42,427 --> 01:10:45,427 recreational waiver as a proven 1797 01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:47,934 solution to end the dispute and 1798 01:10:47,934 --> 01:10:48,300 addresses the victims and 1799 01:10:48,300 --> 01:10:48,935 witnesses. 1800 01:10:48,935 --> 01:10:51,935 The heavy damage by Torrey 1801 01:10:52,205 --> 01:10:52,906 Pines Glider Port negligent 1802 01:10:52,906 --> 01:10:53,505 operation It's a win for city 1803 01:10:53,505 --> 01:10:55,505 council liabilities and 1804 01:10:58,678 --> 01:10:59,446 restores recreational rights 1805 01:10:59,446 --> 01:11:00,790 and freedoms for years to come 1806 01:11:00,790 --> 01:11:00,512 to what it originally was. 1807 01:11:00,512 --> 01:11:02,512 >> Thank you. 1808 01:11:06,860 --> 01:11:06,786 Thank you. 1809 01:11:06,786 --> 01:11:07,520 >> Next Zoom user if you 1810 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,254 complete a new or final speaker 1811 01:11:08,254 --> 01:11:10,990 will be Joshua Williamson same 1812 01:11:10,990 --> 01:11:11,691 user. 1813 01:11:11,691 --> 01:11:12,527 Thanks for taking my call. 1814 01:11:12,527 --> 01:11:16,127 The Sector a shout out to 1815 01:11:16,862 --> 01:11:17,664 the good Lord Jesus for not 1816 01:11:17,664 --> 01:11:21,264 turning his back on us and 1817 01:11:22,769 --> 01:11:23,436 having those guys step forward 1818 01:11:23,436 --> 01:11:23,937 and take care of business in 1819 01:11:23,937 --> 01:11:25,937 our neighborhood. 1820 01:11:28,274 --> 01:11:29,410 They're doing great. 1821 01:11:29,410 --> 01:11:29,642 Well the last four years under 1822 01:11:29,642 --> 01:11:32,642 Biden and under our own 1823 01:11:34,748 --> 01:11:35,415 government it was legal to 1824 01:11:35,415 --> 01:11:35,748 steal 950 bucks a day from 1825 01:11:35,748 --> 01:11:37,748 anybody. 1826 01:11:40,519 --> 01:11:41,187 Just walk in and take it. 1827 01:11:41,187 --> 01:11:41,621 You know, that was just 1828 01:11:41,621 --> 01:11:42,322 criminal bad. 1829 01:11:42,322 --> 01:11:45,322 I think the reason everything 1830 01:11:45,959 --> 01:11:46,659 down is because Trump took over 1831 01:11:46,659 --> 01:11:47,527 and it's getting hard core now 1832 01:11:47,527 --> 01:11:51,727 to break a crime You need some 1833 01:11:52,650 --> 01:11:52,766 other stat statistics of ice 1834 01:11:52,766 --> 01:11:55,766 deportations and say how many 1835 01:11:58,238 --> 01:11:58,705 criminals were deported That 1836 01:11:58,705 --> 01:11:59,406 wasn't on stats. 1837 01:11:59,406 --> 01:12:03,606 That takes a lot of the bad 1838 01:12:03,646 --> 01:12:04,544 guys out of here Now they know 1839 01:12:04,544 --> 01:12:05,245 that it's going to be more guys 1840 01:12:05,245 --> 01:12:05,911 they're looking for and stuff 1841 01:12:05,911 --> 01:12:10,111 with ice to get them out of 1842 01:12:11,518 --> 01:12:12,256 here and it's going to get real 1843 01:12:12,256 --> 01:12:15,550 When you go to the drug dealers 1844 01:12:15,550 --> 01:12:15,821 they kill people just like in 1845 01:12:15,821 --> 01:12:16,556 Tijuana They had 50 car bombs 1846 01:12:16,556 --> 01:12:17,189 just a while ago so it could 1847 01:12:17,189 --> 01:12:20,189 become up to San Diego. 1848 01:12:20,627 --> 01:12:21,494 But who knows? 1849 01:12:21,494 --> 01:12:22,950 It's going to get it's going to 1850 01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:22,428 get worse before it gets 1851 01:12:22,428 --> 01:12:23,630 better. 1852 01:12:23,630 --> 01:12:26,663 But the guys are making a 1853 01:12:27,334 --> 01:12:28,101 difference with the good Lord 1854 01:12:28,101 --> 01:12:32,301 on their side there It's got to 1855 01:12:32,906 --> 01:12:33,239 be plus good luck in the next 1856 01:12:33,239 --> 01:12:34,740 year. 1857 01:12:34,740 --> 01:12:34,975 So when ice shows up again our 1858 01:12:34,975 --> 01:12:38,575 court it really gets it's going 1859 01:12:38,645 --> 01:12:39,179 to be pretty exciting to get 1860 01:12:39,179 --> 01:12:39,646 everybody deported. 1861 01:12:39,646 --> 01:12:41,646 It'll be great. 1862 01:12:42,382 --> 01:12:43,149 Thank you. 1863 01:12:43,149 --> 01:12:43,549 Our final speaker is Joshua 1864 01:12:43,549 --> 01:12:43,884 Williamson. 1865 01:12:43,884 --> 01:12:45,884 Please. 1866 01:12:49,289 --> 01:12:50,257 I knew Josh I kind of knew for 1867 01:12:50,257 --> 01:12:54,457 you a pop up should have come 1868 01:12:59,766 --> 01:13:01,766 up. 1869 01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:07,774 I will have to. 1870 01:13:07,774 --> 01:13:08,508 She seems to have dropped. 1871 01:13:08,508 --> 01:13:09,276 I would like to know for 1872 01:13:09,276 --> 01:13:11,778 the record that the time I did 1873 01:13:11,778 --> 01:13:12,479 receive three comments in favor 1874 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:13,179 and zero comment in opposition 1875 01:13:13,179 --> 01:13:16,779 of your comment form which has 1876 01:13:17,284 --> 01:13:17,584 been distributed to the Council 1877 01:13:17,584 --> 01:13:18,318 . 1878 01:13:18,318 --> 01:13:18,618 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 1879 01:13:18,618 --> 01:13:18,986 right. 1880 01:13:18,986 --> 01:13:19,686 Thank you. 1881 01:13:19,686 --> 01:13:23,286 City Clerk As a reminder this 1882 01:13:23,757 --> 01:13:24,258 is an informational item and no 1883 01:13:24,258 --> 01:13:24,958 motions required. 1884 01:13:24,958 --> 01:13:25,559 We'll turn it over to council 1885 01:13:25,559 --> 01:13:26,259 member for questions and 1886 01:13:26,259 --> 01:13:29,259 comments and we'll start with 1887 01:13:30,731 --> 01:13:31,398 Council member by the Chair of 1888 01:13:31,398 --> 01:13:32,990 our Public Safety Committee. 1889 01:13:32,990 --> 01:13:35,990 Thank you Council PRESIDENT In 1890 01:13:35,569 --> 01:13:36,236 the Thank you Chief and thank 1891 01:13:36,236 --> 01:13:36,937 you to the entire department 1892 01:13:36,937 --> 01:13:39,937 and for the presentation today 1893 01:13:41,975 --> 01:13:42,376 Thank you to the community for 1894 01:13:42,376 --> 01:13:43,143 coming out. 1895 01:13:43,143 --> 01:13:47,343 It is good news that we are 1896 01:13:48,248 --> 01:13:48,915 down once again in crime across 1897 01:13:48,915 --> 01:13:49,583 our city making us feel 1898 01:13:49,583 --> 01:13:50,284 the safest, largest city in 1899 01:13:50,284 --> 01:13:53,884 America which is no easy feat 1900 01:13:54,554 --> 01:13:54,954 And these results don't happen 1901 01:13:54,954 --> 01:13:55,523 by accident. 1902 01:13:55,523 --> 01:13:56,222 They are the result of 1903 01:13:56,222 --> 01:13:56,790 the dedication of our officers 1904 01:13:56,790 --> 01:13:58,790 the strong leadership, 1905 01:13:59,893 --> 01:14:00,494 the politicians investments we 1906 01:14:00,494 --> 01:14:00,994 made in the city and in 1907 01:14:00,994 --> 01:14:01,728 the city council. 1908 01:14:01,728 --> 01:14:05,928 But it's also the result of our 1909 01:14:05,999 --> 01:14:06,600 community's public safety and 1910 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,233 community effort and our 1911 01:14:07,233 --> 01:14:07,768 officers actually rely on 1912 01:14:07,768 --> 01:14:09,768 building trust with 1913 01:14:12,406 --> 01:14:13,140 the community to make us safer 1914 01:14:13,140 --> 01:14:13,774 which is also why oversight, 1915 01:14:13,774 --> 01:14:14,408 transparency and building 1916 01:14:14,408 --> 01:14:17,408 community trust is just as 1917 01:14:18,812 --> 01:14:19,479 important as making sure we 1918 01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:20,180 have highly trained officers 1919 01:14:20,180 --> 01:14:20,614 able to show up to nine month 1920 01:14:20,614 --> 01:14:22,614 hold on time. 1921 01:14:24,985 --> 01:14:25,719 I want to thank all of our 1922 01:14:25,719 --> 01:14:26,119 partners from the Commission on 1923 01:14:26,119 --> 01:14:26,754 Prevention. 1924 01:14:26,754 --> 01:14:27,870 Thank you for being here, 1925 01:14:27,870 --> 01:14:29,870 Pastor. 1926 01:14:30,524 --> 01:14:31,325 Your words are very beautiful. 1927 01:14:31,325 --> 01:14:31,959 I appreciate the work you're 1928 01:14:31,959 --> 01:14:32,660 doing and I want to thank 1929 01:14:32,660 --> 01:14:33,393 Senior You Services and other 1930 01:14:33,393 --> 01:14:36,393 nonprofits who are helping out. 1931 01:14:36,963 --> 01:14:37,665 I want to thank also new shots 1932 01:14:37,665 --> 01:14:38,365 Fired who came into our public 1933 01:14:38,365 --> 01:14:41,365 safety committee last week to 1934 01:14:42,503 --> 01:14:43,237 tell us about the incredible 1935 01:14:43,237 --> 01:14:43,970 gang interruption violence work 1936 01:14:43,970 --> 01:14:44,705 they are doing including one of 1937 01:14:44,705 --> 01:14:47,705 their members was actually shot 1938 01:14:48,976 --> 01:14:49,643 this past year in the middle of 1939 01:14:49,643 --> 01:14:50,310 trying to interrupt more gun 1940 01:14:50,310 --> 01:14:52,710 prevention and gun violence 1941 01:14:54,215 --> 01:14:54,982 prevention here I want to thank 1942 01:14:54,982 --> 01:14:55,783 our gun ban prevention team or 1943 01:14:55,783 --> 01:14:56,484 ghost gun task force as well as 1944 01:14:56,484 --> 01:14:59,484 the folks getting gun violence 1945 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:01,255 restraining orders. 1946 01:15:01,255 --> 01:15:01,722 We can prevent mass shootings 1947 01:15:01,722 --> 01:15:03,722 in this country. 1948 01:15:05,926 --> 01:15:06,293 We have seen it in our school 1949 01:15:06,293 --> 01:15:06,961 district. 1950 01:15:06,961 --> 01:15:07,661 If you report something our 1951 01:15:07,661 --> 01:15:08,362 police will take it seriously 1952 01:15:08,362 --> 01:15:11,962 and get guns out of dangerous 1953 01:15:12,199 --> 01:15:12,832 situations. 1954 01:15:12,832 --> 01:15:13,167 So please keep reporting 1955 01:15:13,167 --> 01:15:13,768 things. 1956 01:15:13,768 --> 01:15:17,368 I also want to thank our 1957 01:15:17,938 --> 01:15:18,606 neighbors representative police 1958 01:15:18,606 --> 01:15:19,339 such as our 9 million 1959 01:15:19,339 --> 01:15:19,973 dispatchers who have incredibly 1960 01:15:19,973 --> 01:15:22,973 hard jobs to hear victims 1961 01:15:23,710 --> 01:15:24,311 calling for help and ensuring 1962 01:15:24,311 --> 01:15:24,979 that our officers have 1963 01:15:24,979 --> 01:15:25,479 the information they need to 1964 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,879 get there on time. 1965 01:15:28,449 --> 01:15:29,150 If you ever want to go see how 1966 01:15:29,150 --> 01:15:29,884 hard our 911 dispatchers work 1967 01:15:29,884 --> 01:15:30,585 with information coming at them 1968 01:15:30,585 --> 01:15:31,218 from four different screens or 1969 01:15:31,218 --> 01:15:33,618 calling hearing the victim 1970 01:15:34,822 --> 01:15:35,456 there talking to the police 1971 01:15:35,456 --> 01:15:36,230 officers on the street as 1972 01:15:36,230 --> 01:15:36,757 they're getting there. 1973 01:15:36,757 --> 01:15:37,910 It is incredibly hard work that 1974 01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:39,910 they do. 1975 01:15:40,794 --> 01:15:41,495 I want to thank our ask Me 127 1976 01:15:41,495 --> 01:15:42,196 workers who are the mechanics, 1977 01:15:42,196 --> 01:15:42,897 for example, to keep our cars 1978 01:15:42,897 --> 01:15:45,897 running and keep our equipment 1979 01:15:47,101 --> 01:15:47,802 functioning and the civilian 1980 01:15:47,802 --> 01:15:48,503 staff from our retired senior 1981 01:15:48,503 --> 01:15:50,903 volunteer positions, our peace 1982 01:15:52,173 --> 01:15:53,700 officers, the clerical staff 1983 01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:53,741 who do the purchase orders to 1984 01:15:53,741 --> 01:15:54,442 make sure that our equipment is 1985 01:15:54,442 --> 01:15:55,750 actually purchased and funded 1986 01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:57,475 for our police department. 1987 01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:59,179 We have so many city employees 1988 01:15:59,179 --> 01:15:59,980 who have their hands on public 1989 01:15:59,980 --> 01:16:03,684 safety and I want to thank all 1990 01:16:03,684 --> 01:16:04,452 of them. 1991 01:16:04,452 --> 01:16:05,119 I also want to thank most 1992 01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:07,519 importantly our cpd officers 1993 01:16:10,580 --> 01:16:10,758 who every day put their lives 1994 01:16:10,758 --> 01:16:11,426 on the line On Valentine's Day 1995 01:16:11,426 --> 01:16:14,426 a Saturday night I actually 1996 01:16:16,430 --> 01:16:17,131 went on a ride along and I saw 1997 01:16:17,131 --> 01:16:17,832 one of the most tragic things 1998 01:16:17,832 --> 01:16:21,769 I've seen in my lifetime And I 1999 01:16:21,769 --> 01:16:22,403 served in the Peace Corps in 2000 01:16:22,403 --> 01:16:23,104 the aids crisis in Africa. 2001 01:16:23,104 --> 01:16:27,304 I have seen a lot of children 2002 01:16:28,109 --> 01:16:28,843 buried but we saw an a horrible 2003 01:16:28,843 --> 01:16:29,510 stabbing on the street downtown 2004 01:16:29,510 --> 01:16:31,510 actually Councilor Oliver's 2005 01:16:32,980 --> 01:16:33,414 district the victim did not 2006 01:16:33,414 --> 01:16:34,148 survive. 2007 01:16:34,148 --> 01:16:34,882 You know, by the time I got 2008 01:16:34,882 --> 01:16:38,482 there the suspect had then fled 2009 01:16:39,753 --> 01:16:40,621 inside the apartment building 2010 01:16:40,621 --> 01:16:41,289 and hid with his unit on fire 2011 01:16:41,289 --> 01:16:41,589 trying to burn the apartment 2012 01:16:41,589 --> 01:16:42,389 down. 2013 01:16:42,389 --> 01:16:45,693 So I was able to witness almost 2014 01:16:45,693 --> 01:16:46,427 all of the apparatus the city 2015 01:16:46,427 --> 01:16:47,280 funds from our police cars, our 2016 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:47,428 party response team, our 2017 01:16:47,428 --> 01:16:49,428 ambulances. 2018 01:16:51,332 --> 01:16:52,320 I now understand why automated 2019 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,320 cpr machines are so important. 2020 01:16:57,205 --> 01:16:57,839 I saw the tower ladder come 2021 01:16:57,839 --> 01:16:58,540 from the fire department. 2022 01:16:58,540 --> 01:17:02,140 I could not believe that this 2023 01:17:02,243 --> 01:17:03,430 is what one incident required 2024 01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:03,745 And then I saw the resilience 2025 01:17:03,745 --> 01:17:04,412 of the witnesses who witnessed 2026 01:17:04,412 --> 01:17:06,812 the unfortunate stabbing and 2027 01:17:08,983 --> 01:17:09,684 they waited in the cold late 2028 01:17:09,684 --> 01:17:10,418 hours of the night just to for 2029 01:17:10,418 --> 01:17:14,180 the homicide team to arrive and 2030 01:17:15,156 --> 01:17:15,890 take their statements So there 2031 01:17:15,890 --> 01:17:16,624 are brave civilians in the city 2032 01:17:16,624 --> 01:17:17,325 who are willing to stand up and 2033 01:17:17,325 --> 01:17:17,592 talk about what they saw every 2034 01:17:17,592 --> 01:17:18,293 day. 2035 01:17:18,293 --> 01:17:20,428 And I want to thank everybody 2036 01:17:20,428 --> 01:17:20,762 who's brave enough to come 2037 01:17:20,762 --> 01:17:21,696 forward. 2038 01:17:21,696 --> 01:17:25,896 But I do have some questions as 2039 01:17:25,934 --> 01:17:26,633 well. 2040 01:17:26,633 --> 01:17:27,268 In addition to all the great 2041 01:17:27,268 --> 01:17:27,968 work we are doing with our 2042 01:17:27,968 --> 01:17:30,368 department, there's also time 2043 01:17:32,207 --> 01:17:32,941 that we can improve And so we 2044 01:17:32,941 --> 01:17:33,608 also need to continue training. 2045 01:17:33,608 --> 01:17:34,442 And so I want to know Chief, 2046 01:17:34,442 --> 01:17:38,642 can you tell us about how you 2047 01:17:38,679 --> 01:17:39,347 actually increasing training to 2048 01:17:39,347 --> 01:17:40,480 make sure that we don't use 2049 01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:40,682 excessive force and incidents 2050 01:17:40,682 --> 01:17:43,820 as we responded properly? 2051 01:17:43,952 --> 01:17:44,619 I know you're rethinking our 2052 01:17:44,619 --> 01:17:45,352 training program so I'd love 2053 01:17:45,352 --> 01:17:46,870 you to tell everybody about it. 2054 01:17:46,870 --> 01:17:49,658 So thank you for that question. 2055 01:17:49,658 --> 01:17:50,391 Councilmember First let me 2056 01:17:50,391 --> 01:17:53,193 start by saying police training 2057 01:17:53,193 --> 01:17:53,895 across the country is one of 2058 01:17:53,895 --> 01:17:54,529 the first things that gets cut 2059 01:17:54,529 --> 01:17:55,229 during tough budget times. 2060 01:17:55,229 --> 01:17:58,667 I'm very proud to say working 2061 01:17:58,667 --> 01:17:59,368 with my staff we have not cut 2062 01:17:59,368 --> 01:18:02,368 training since I started as 2063 01:18:04,739 --> 01:18:05,540 police chief. 2064 01:18:05,540 --> 01:18:06,207 But to be open to transparent 2065 01:18:06,207 --> 01:18:06,942 our training is not enough. 2066 01:18:06,942 --> 01:18:10,178 We need to increase and do more 2067 01:18:10,178 --> 01:18:10,846 as this world becomes more and 2068 01:18:10,846 --> 01:18:11,613 more complex As crime trends 2069 01:18:11,613 --> 01:18:15,683 begin to change we need to be 2070 01:18:15,683 --> 01:18:16,550 more adaptive. 2071 01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:17,251 One of the first things I did 2072 01:18:17,251 --> 01:18:17,853 was I changed over the entire 2073 01:18:17,853 --> 01:18:20,853 chain of command in our 2074 01:18:21,323 --> 01:18:22,124 training division with 2075 01:18:22,124 --> 01:18:25,124 the intent to redesign our 2076 01:18:26,928 --> 01:18:27,795 training program. 2077 01:18:27,795 --> 01:18:28,530 We lacked a leader, a true 2078 01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:30,930 leadership development unit and 2079 01:18:33,902 --> 01:18:34,236 a true leadership development 2080 01:18:34,236 --> 01:18:34,835 program. 2081 01:18:34,835 --> 01:18:35,571 It's one of my top three 2082 01:18:35,571 --> 01:18:36,238 priorities to develop inspiring 2083 01:18:36,238 --> 01:18:39,238 leaders that people love to 2084 01:18:39,441 --> 01:18:40,175 come to work for And I can lead 2085 01:18:40,175 --> 01:18:43,775 this this city into the future. 2086 01:18:44,913 --> 01:18:45,480 I'm proud to say that that we 2087 01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:46,181 have that leadership 2088 01:18:46,181 --> 01:18:46,848 development unit in place and 2089 01:18:46,848 --> 01:18:49,248 the leadership programs are 2090 01:18:50,585 --> 01:18:51,252 beginning not just for the top 2091 01:18:51,252 --> 01:18:51,853 part of our organization but 2092 01:18:51,853 --> 01:18:52,220 for our frontline police 2093 01:18:52,220 --> 01:18:52,888 officers. 2094 01:18:52,888 --> 01:18:54,888 Detectives are professional 2095 01:18:56,558 --> 01:18:57,125 staff all the way up to the top 2096 01:18:57,125 --> 01:18:59,125 of this organization. 2097 01:19:01,395 --> 01:19:02,197 Additionally, we just last 2098 01:19:02,197 --> 01:19:05,197 month started to build training 2099 01:19:06,634 --> 01:19:07,302 teams. 2100 01:19:07,302 --> 01:19:10,302 Our training cycles have for 2101 01:19:13,410 --> 01:19:13,742 decades have extended for an 18 2102 01:19:13,742 --> 01:19:14,376 month cycle back in the 90 and 2103 01:19:14,376 --> 01:19:17,376 early 2000s when the world 2104 01:19:18,279 --> 01:19:18,980 wasn't spinning as fast as it 2105 01:19:18,980 --> 01:19:19,681 is today, that 18 month cycle 2106 01:19:19,681 --> 01:19:22,681 was sufficient But in today's 2107 01:19:27,220 --> 01:19:27,723 world we see trends or 2108 01:19:27,723 --> 01:19:28,257 different types of situations 2109 01:19:28,257 --> 01:19:30,657 that we're facing in 2110 01:19:33,394 --> 01:19:33,929 the streets and we need to 2111 01:19:33,929 --> 01:19:34,563 adapt our training. 2112 01:19:34,563 --> 01:19:37,199 So we now have two field 2113 01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:37,799 training teams that are working 2114 01:19:37,799 --> 01:19:38,466 seven days a week. 2115 01:19:38,466 --> 01:19:39,101 They're going out to lineups 2116 01:19:39,101 --> 01:19:39,668 instead of having a longer 2117 01:19:39,668 --> 01:19:41,668 duration of training. 2118 01:19:43,639 --> 01:19:44,339 It's shorter, more frequent 2119 01:19:44,339 --> 01:19:47,339 with high repetition and we're 2120 01:19:48,477 --> 01:19:49,110 able to change the training 2121 01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:51,110 scenarios overnight. 2122 01:19:52,815 --> 01:19:53,482 So we went from an 18 month 2123 01:19:53,482 --> 01:19:56,482 cycle to an overnight pivot 2124 01:19:58,520 --> 01:19:58,854 which is taking an aircraft 2125 01:19:58,854 --> 01:19:59,521 carrier. 2126 01:19:59,521 --> 01:19:59,888 We're driving it more like a 2127 01:19:59,888 --> 01:20:00,489 speedboat. 2128 01:20:00,489 --> 01:20:01,223 So I'm very proud of our 2129 01:20:01,223 --> 01:20:04,590 training division for what work 2130 01:20:04,590 --> 01:20:04,727 that they've done and we've 2131 01:20:04,727 --> 01:20:05,294 done that without expanding 2132 01:20:05,294 --> 01:20:08,294 the budget in any way. 2133 01:20:09,764 --> 01:20:10,332 So I'm very proud of what 2134 01:20:10,332 --> 01:20:10,699 they've come up with. 2135 01:20:10,699 --> 01:20:11,660 Fantastic. 2136 01:20:11,660 --> 01:20:13,660 Thank you. 2137 01:20:13,434 --> 01:20:14,203 And I do realize the training 2138 01:20:14,203 --> 01:20:14,903 can be the first thing to cut 2139 01:20:14,903 --> 01:20:15,537 in the hard budget season but 2140 01:20:15,537 --> 01:20:18,537 that will result in harder 2141 01:20:18,940 --> 01:20:19,908 calls later down the road. 2142 01:20:19,908 --> 01:20:20,442 We don't want to set up our 2143 01:20:20,442 --> 01:20:20,875 officers to fail in 2144 01:20:20,875 --> 01:20:21,577 the community. 2145 01:20:21,577 --> 01:20:24,679 We want to make sure that they 2146 01:20:24,679 --> 01:20:25,347 are trained and they can adapt 2147 01:20:25,347 --> 01:20:26,480 If something happens they 2148 01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:26,782 should be able to address that 2149 01:20:26,782 --> 01:20:27,483 right away rather than you said 2150 01:20:27,483 --> 01:20:30,286 wait 18 months for a training 2151 01:20:30,286 --> 01:20:31,190 cycle to come around when they 2152 01:20:31,190 --> 01:20:31,419 address something that happened 2153 01:20:31,419 --> 01:20:32,540 a year ago. 2154 01:20:32,540 --> 01:20:32,754 So I think it's very smart 2155 01:20:32,754 --> 01:20:35,190 the way you're doing this and 2156 01:20:35,190 --> 01:20:35,858 let us know how we continue to 2157 01:20:35,858 --> 01:20:36,559 fight for that in the budget 2158 01:20:36,559 --> 01:20:38,959 because we crime unfortunately 2159 01:20:40,929 --> 01:20:41,430 is not stopping People call no 2160 01:20:41,430 --> 01:20:42,131 one all the time. 2161 01:20:42,131 --> 01:20:42,865 I mean hundreds of thousands 2162 01:20:42,865 --> 01:20:43,132 are now who one calls a year or 2163 01:20:43,132 --> 01:20:43,866 so. 2164 01:20:43,866 --> 01:20:45,868 I want to make sure we do fight 2165 01:20:45,868 --> 01:20:46,469 to make sure there is enough in 2166 01:20:46,469 --> 01:20:47,690 the budget to make sure 2167 01:20:47,690 --> 01:20:47,635 officers are continually 2168 01:20:47,635 --> 01:20:49,635 trained in continuous 2169 01:20:50,872 --> 01:20:51,840 improvement. 2170 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:52,408 I also want to ask and say 2171 01:20:52,408 --> 01:20:53,410 thank you as well for 2172 01:20:53,410 --> 01:20:55,441 the incredible work you're 2173 01:20:56,278 --> 01:20:56,779 doing cutting down the amount 2174 01:20:56,779 --> 01:20:57,446 of overtime costs. 2175 01:20:57,446 --> 01:21:00,446 It's been incredible to see. 2176 01:21:01,850 --> 01:21:02,551 At the same time I want to make 2177 01:21:02,551 --> 01:21:03,180 sure you have my extra three 2178 01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:03,719 minutes please. 2179 01:21:03,719 --> 01:21:07,156 I want to make sure that we're 2180 01:21:07,156 --> 01:21:07,623 not doing that expensive 2181 01:21:07,623 --> 01:21:08,324 response times. 2182 01:21:08,324 --> 01:21:09,570 I know we're hitting our nine 2183 01:21:09,570 --> 01:21:12,328 on one emergency calls but then 2184 01:21:12,328 --> 01:21:13,280 there are non-emergency calls 2185 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:13,329 that people still need help 2186 01:21:13,329 --> 01:21:14,290 with. 2187 01:21:14,290 --> 01:21:14,730 So our response times flagging 2188 01:21:14,730 --> 01:21:17,600 now or how are we doing there? 2189 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:18,267 So our response times are not 2190 01:21:18,267 --> 01:21:18,701 where I'd like to see them 2191 01:21:18,701 --> 01:21:20,701 quite frankly. 2192 01:21:23,271 --> 01:21:23,939 We have different priority 2193 01:21:23,939 --> 01:21:24,573 calls in our dispatch center 2194 01:21:24,573 --> 01:21:24,873 for the highest emergency 2195 01:21:24,873 --> 01:21:26,873 calls. 2196 01:21:28,444 --> 01:21:29,111 We are underneath just slightly 2197 01:21:29,111 --> 01:21:31,511 underneath the threshold of 2198 01:21:34,490 --> 01:21:34,750 seven minutes response time and 2199 01:21:34,750 --> 01:21:35,420 the reason we're hitting that 2200 01:21:35,420 --> 01:21:36,118 is because when those calls 2201 01:21:36,118 --> 01:21:36,786 come out everybody drops what 2202 01:21:36,786 --> 01:21:37,453 they're doing no matter what 2203 01:21:37,453 --> 01:21:39,388 they're doing and they go to 2204 01:21:39,388 --> 01:21:40,890 that call. 2205 01:21:40,890 --> 01:21:40,822 So we're hitting that response 2206 01:21:40,822 --> 01:21:43,822 metric but every other response 2207 01:21:44,327 --> 01:21:47,327 time is sometimes double and 2208 01:21:49,231 --> 01:21:49,932 triple expected time frame. 2209 01:21:49,932 --> 01:21:52,332 We went through a 2210 01:21:53,736 --> 01:21:54,437 reorganization in my first 60 2211 01:21:54,437 --> 01:21:55,104 days as chief We've been kind 2212 01:21:55,104 --> 01:21:57,504 of retooling, refocusing our 2213 01:21:59,642 --> 01:22:00,343 efforts and moving our overtime 2214 01:22:00,343 --> 01:22:01,430 around to go to the amount of 2215 01:22:01,430 --> 01:22:04,430 change that we've gone through 2216 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:05,514 this past year year and a half 2217 01:22:05,514 --> 01:22:06,215 And to have response times 2218 01:22:06,215 --> 01:22:09,215 remain the same is remarkable. 2219 01:22:10,686 --> 01:22:11,287 We cut almost 7 million in 2220 01:22:11,287 --> 01:22:13,287 overtime without causing 2221 01:22:15,825 --> 01:22:16,426 response times to skyrocket and 2222 01:22:16,426 --> 01:22:17,600 without having to reduce 2223 01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:17,426 the services we provide to 2224 01:22:17,426 --> 01:22:19,426 the city. 2225 01:22:20,797 --> 01:22:21,463 So it's remarkable work that my 2226 01:22:21,463 --> 01:22:21,831 staff and department members 2227 01:22:21,831 --> 01:22:22,498 are doing. 2228 01:22:22,498 --> 01:22:26,980 Very proud of them for that. 2229 01:22:26,703 --> 01:22:27,336 I think it's incredible as well 2230 01:22:27,336 --> 01:22:27,971 And we're still not fully 2231 01:22:27,971 --> 01:22:28,638 staffed for the amount of 2232 01:22:28,638 --> 01:22:31,638 officers that we could under 2233 01:22:32,375 --> 01:22:33,750 the budget in the city of San 2234 01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:35,475 Diego has grown exponentially 2235 01:22:35,545 --> 01:22:36,450 and yet we're still making it 2236 01:22:36,450 --> 01:22:36,979 to 911 calls. 2237 01:22:36,979 --> 01:22:37,680 And so I do want to keep making 2238 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,800 sure we're funding recruitment 2239 01:22:40,416 --> 01:22:41,184 academies because we're losing 2240 01:22:41,184 --> 01:22:41,584 a lot of good officers to 2241 01:22:41,584 --> 01:22:42,385 retirement. 2242 01:22:42,385 --> 01:22:46,550 So I know the budget very hard 2243 01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:46,656 but I and I know we just want 2244 01:22:46,656 --> 01:22:47,256 to make sure we continue 2245 01:22:47,256 --> 01:22:49,656 recruiting and getting a 2246 01:22:51,561 --> 01:22:52,328 diverse group of officers and 2247 01:22:52,328 --> 01:22:55,665 that who can fill the backfill 2248 01:22:55,665 --> 01:22:56,332 as we get retirements I met my 2249 01:22:56,332 --> 01:22:56,965 last question which is about 2250 01:22:56,965 --> 01:22:59,365 the technology we've been 2251 01:23:00,669 --> 01:23:01,270 implementing to help officers 2252 01:23:01,270 --> 01:23:02,105 do their jobs quicker. 2253 01:23:02,105 --> 01:23:05,975 I mean I've seen Taser ten out 2254 01:23:05,975 --> 01:23:06,709 in action that's been very 2255 01:23:06,709 --> 01:23:07,443 helpful for officers other than 2256 01:23:07,443 --> 01:23:08,110 the old school Tasers which are 2257 01:23:08,110 --> 01:23:11,110 not as useful and also 2258 01:23:11,447 --> 01:23:11,781 the automated license plate 2259 01:23:11,781 --> 01:23:12,548 readers. 2260 01:23:12,548 --> 01:23:13,283 I mean we just heard about yet 2261 01:23:13,283 --> 01:23:16,283 another hate crime happening in 2262 01:23:16,919 --> 01:23:17,587 our city And I know 2263 01:23:17,587 --> 01:23:18,288 the automated license plate 2264 01:23:18,288 --> 01:23:18,954 reader technology was able to 2265 01:23:18,954 --> 01:23:21,954 help prevent those in court. 2266 01:23:22,425 --> 01:23:23,225 The suspects two years ago in 2267 01:23:23,225 --> 01:23:27,425 Hillcrest So how is how I know 2268 01:23:27,664 --> 01:23:27,997 we've been reducing vehicle 2269 01:23:27,997 --> 01:23:28,665 thefts. 2270 01:23:28,665 --> 01:23:29,265 We've been solving homicides 2271 01:23:29,265 --> 01:23:29,966 with it but has it still 2272 01:23:29,966 --> 01:23:32,368 continued to be productive for 2273 01:23:32,368 --> 01:23:36,568 all of it for the city our 2274 01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:38,141 staffing levels are about we 2275 01:23:38,141 --> 01:23:38,842 have about a 10% vacancy rate 2276 01:23:38,842 --> 01:23:39,609 based on our budget right now. 2277 01:23:39,609 --> 01:23:43,213 But if you look at the call 2278 01:23:43,213 --> 01:23:43,847 volume that we have in 2279 01:23:43,847 --> 01:23:44,480 the amount of time that it 2280 01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:45,810 takes to handle that call 2281 01:23:45,810 --> 01:23:47,810 volume, we're about 1000 2282 01:23:47,183 --> 01:23:47,483 officers short of what we need 2283 01:23:47,483 --> 01:23:48,251 . 2284 01:23:48,251 --> 01:23:48,885 If you look at similar size 2285 01:23:48,885 --> 01:23:51,285 cities across the country, 2286 01:23:52,550 --> 01:23:52,422 Phenix is 1000 or 3000 police 2287 01:23:52,422 --> 01:23:54,422 officers. 2288 01:23:55,225 --> 01:23:57,625 We're at about 815 somewhere 2289 01:23:59,262 --> 01:24:00,229 around there right now Dallas 2290 01:24:00,229 --> 01:24:02,629 3300 police officers same size 2291 01:24:05,235 --> 01:24:05,869 city. 2292 01:24:05,869 --> 01:24:06,536 So we're definitely doing 2293 01:24:06,536 --> 01:24:09,536 the job with fewer officers. 2294 01:24:10,540 --> 01:24:11,241 We're finding creative ways to 2295 01:24:11,241 --> 01:24:11,874 try to make sure that we're 2296 01:24:11,874 --> 01:24:12,576 being as efficient and as 2297 01:24:12,576 --> 01:24:15,312 effective as we possibly can 2298 01:24:15,312 --> 01:24:15,612 with the limited resources we 2299 01:24:15,612 --> 01:24:16,214 have. 2300 01:24:16,214 --> 01:24:16,947 There's no question that 2301 01:24:16,947 --> 01:24:19,947 technology helps us bridge that 2302 01:24:20,684 --> 01:24:21,384 gap whether it's license plate 2303 01:24:21,384 --> 01:24:24,384 or license plate readers that 2304 01:24:25,550 --> 01:24:25,822 help us apprehend suspects 2305 01:24:25,822 --> 01:24:26,489 after they commit the first 2306 01:24:26,489 --> 01:24:27,190 crime or second crime versus 2307 01:24:27,190 --> 01:24:30,590 allowing them to commit commit 2308 01:24:30,590 --> 01:24:30,760 multiple crimes before we 2309 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:31,428 figure out who they are and 2310 01:24:31,428 --> 01:24:34,428 catch them or whether it's 2311 01:24:35,499 --> 01:24:36,199 using other technologies 2312 01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:39,199 specifically when it comes to 2313 01:24:39,236 --> 01:24:40,300 you know, like Taser ten, you 2314 01:24:40,300 --> 01:24:43,603 know, tools like that help us 2315 01:24:44,441 --> 01:24:45,174 save lives when we have violent 2316 01:24:45,174 --> 01:24:47,574 combative individuals and we're 2317 01:24:48,645 --> 01:24:52,245 able to have a greater standoff 2318 01:24:53,450 --> 01:24:54,117 distance and that particular 2319 01:24:54,117 --> 01:24:57,117 system helps us stay further 2320 01:24:58,655 --> 01:24:59,355 back and have multiple attempts 2321 01:24:59,355 --> 01:24:59,889 at trying to get that person 2322 01:24:59,889 --> 01:25:00,624 safely into custody. 2323 01:25:00,624 --> 01:25:03,624 There's no question that it's 2324 01:25:03,827 --> 01:25:04,227 extremely helpful for us. 2325 01:25:04,227 --> 01:25:06,227 Got it. 2326 01:25:09,399 --> 01:25:10,670 And we've had robust hearings 2327 01:25:10,670 --> 01:25:10,700 here at City Hall on privacy 2328 01:25:10,700 --> 01:25:11,368 and transparency and civil 2329 01:25:11,368 --> 01:25:11,735 rights which are all equally 2330 01:25:11,735 --> 01:25:13,735 important. 2331 01:25:14,371 --> 01:25:15,370 So if anybody has questions 2332 01:25:15,370 --> 01:25:15,772 about how automated license 2333 01:25:15,772 --> 01:25:19,420 plate readers are used, you can 2334 01:25:19,420 --> 01:25:19,609 see the transparent use policy 2335 01:25:19,609 --> 01:25:20,310 on the city's website. 2336 01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:20,944 You can know where all these 2337 01:25:20,944 --> 01:25:23,747 cameras are on the city's 2338 01:25:23,747 --> 01:25:24,381 website We have weekly audits 2339 01:25:24,381 --> 01:25:25,480 that the police in our I.T 2340 01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:27,448 department does showing why 2341 01:25:28,819 --> 01:25:29,586 the data has been pulled, what 2342 01:25:29,586 --> 01:25:30,120 it's used for and we are unique 2343 01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,120 among other cities. 2344 01:25:33,924 --> 01:25:34,591 We do not share our automated 2345 01:25:34,591 --> 01:25:35,125 license plate reader system 2346 01:25:35,125 --> 01:25:35,726 with any other city. 2347 01:25:35,726 --> 01:25:38,726 Others around us do and 2348 01:25:39,130 --> 01:25:39,863 the city of Chula Vista has 2349 01:25:39,863 --> 01:25:40,497 these Oceanside, Escondido, Los 2350 01:25:40,497 --> 01:25:43,166 Angeles put of helpers and 2351 01:25:43,166 --> 01:25:43,934 smart streetlights. 2352 01:25:43,934 --> 01:25:44,601 The city of Berkeley uses APIs 2353 01:25:44,601 --> 01:25:47,601 and smart city lights open. 2354 01:25:47,704 --> 01:25:48,338 I mean these are used to 2355 01:25:48,338 --> 01:25:49,600 prevent and treat crime or 2356 01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,406 prevent and actually solve 2357 01:25:52,309 --> 01:25:52,976 crime. 2358 01:25:52,976 --> 01:25:53,643 However, there was a caller 2359 01:25:53,643 --> 01:25:54,211 talking about whether or not 2360 01:25:54,211 --> 01:25:55,679 the city cooperate in 2361 01:25:55,679 --> 01:25:57,679 immigration enforcement. 2362 01:26:00,684 --> 01:26:01,552 And let me be clear we do not 2363 01:26:01,552 --> 01:26:02,252 it is very we actually let a 2364 01:26:02,252 --> 01:26:02,919 vote at the city of San Diego 2365 01:26:02,919 --> 01:26:05,919 to join the lawsuit with 2366 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:06,756 Minneapolis against the federal 2367 01:26:06,756 --> 01:26:07,324 administration for what ice is 2368 01:26:07,324 --> 01:26:08,580 currently doing in our 2369 01:26:08,580 --> 01:26:10,793 communities because that is not 2370 01:26:10,793 --> 01:26:11,628 law enforcement. 2371 01:26:11,628 --> 01:26:12,262 But Chief, can you state on 2372 01:26:12,262 --> 01:26:12,963 the record again we do not 2373 01:26:12,963 --> 01:26:14,665 violate the California Values 2374 01:26:14,665 --> 01:26:15,332 Act and we are not cooperating 2375 01:26:15,332 --> 01:26:15,733 in immigration enforcement. 2376 01:26:15,733 --> 01:26:16,399 Yes, ma'am. 2377 01:26:16,399 --> 01:26:19,737 First of all, we don't share 2378 01:26:19,737 --> 01:26:20,504 with anybody in the state. 2379 01:26:20,504 --> 01:26:20,871 We don't share with our federal 2380 01:26:20,871 --> 01:26:21,672 partners. 2381 01:26:21,672 --> 01:26:25,175 We definitely don't use it for 2382 01:26:25,175 --> 01:26:25,842 immigration purposes. 2383 01:26:25,842 --> 01:26:28,242 We're in complete compliance 2384 01:26:28,946 --> 01:26:29,747 with Senate Bill 54 as well as 2385 01:26:29,747 --> 01:26:32,747 Senate Bill 34 In terms of 2386 01:26:33,417 --> 01:26:35,817 sharing that that information 2387 01:26:37,688 --> 01:26:38,556 we retain it and own that data 2388 01:26:38,556 --> 01:26:39,256 And again we're trying to be as 2389 01:26:39,256 --> 01:26:39,889 transparent as we possibly can 2390 01:26:39,889 --> 01:26:42,889 and have the oversight and 2391 01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:43,861 auditing in place so that 2392 01:26:43,861 --> 01:26:44,561 people can be comfortable and 2393 01:26:44,561 --> 01:26:45,129 confident that we're using it 2394 01:26:45,129 --> 01:26:47,765 the right way to catch 2395 01:26:47,765 --> 01:26:48,165 criminals. 2396 01:26:48,165 --> 01:26:48,866 Thank you. 2397 01:26:48,866 --> 01:26:49,538 It is critically important 2398 01:26:49,538 --> 01:26:52,538 people feel safe calling our 2399 01:26:53,370 --> 01:26:53,870 officers and calling 911. 2400 01:26:53,870 --> 01:26:57,273 And so I just want to reiterate 2401 01:26:57,273 --> 01:26:58,141 that again on the record. 2402 01:26:58,141 --> 01:26:58,709 So thank you very much for 2403 01:26:58,709 --> 01:26:59,376 the great news today. 2404 01:26:59,376 --> 01:27:02,346 Thank you for the community 2405 01:27:02,346 --> 01:27:03,470 effort and the work Everyone in 2406 01:27:03,470 --> 01:27:03,848 our department is doing But I 2407 01:27:03,848 --> 01:27:06,951 do want to close in recognizing 2408 01:27:06,951 --> 01:27:07,485 this incredible progress in 2409 01:27:07,485 --> 01:27:08,318 keeping us all safe. 2410 01:27:08,318 --> 01:27:11,318 There's also something just as 2411 01:27:11,989 --> 01:27:12,623 important. 2412 01:27:12,623 --> 01:27:13,290 There were still horrible 2413 01:27:13,290 --> 01:27:16,192 victims of crime last year. 2414 01:27:16,192 --> 01:27:16,526 I mean victims of horrible 2415 01:27:16,526 --> 01:27:17,261 crimes. 2416 01:27:17,261 --> 01:27:21,332 And I still want to note that 2417 01:27:21,332 --> 01:27:22,660 that even though our crime 2418 01:27:22,660 --> 01:27:22,633 statistics are down, statistics 2419 01:27:22,633 --> 01:27:23,300 are not just numbers. 2420 01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:23,768 There are people who've lost 2421 01:27:23,768 --> 01:27:25,768 family members. 2422 01:27:26,337 --> 01:27:27,400 There are people who have had 2423 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:27,505 to leave their homes due to 2424 01:27:27,505 --> 01:27:29,505 domestic violence. 2425 01:27:31,642 --> 01:27:32,209 Their children who faced hate 2426 01:27:32,209 --> 01:27:32,877 crimes in our schools. 2427 01:27:32,877 --> 01:27:33,559 And so I want to acknowledge 2428 01:27:33,559 --> 01:27:36,280 that there are still victims 2429 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:36,980 that we have to remember in 2430 01:27:36,980 --> 01:27:37,682 this situation even as we're 2431 01:27:37,682 --> 01:27:38,382 celebrating lower crime rates, 2432 01:27:38,382 --> 01:27:40,885 I still want to remember them 2433 01:27:40,885 --> 01:27:41,619 too. 2434 01:27:41,619 --> 01:27:42,520 So thank you very much for 2435 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:42,787 the briefing. 2436 01:27:42,787 --> 01:27:45,489 Thank you for the good news and 2437 01:27:45,489 --> 01:27:45,989 I'll close my comments. 2438 01:27:45,989 --> 01:27:46,356 All right. 2439 01:27:46,356 --> 01:27:47,250 Thank you. 2440 01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:47,858 Council member Von Wilpert. 2441 01:27:47,858 --> 01:27:50,628 We'll go next to council member 2442 01:27:50,628 --> 01:27:51,362 Marino. 2443 01:27:51,362 --> 01:27:54,310 Thank you for the presentation. 2444 01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:54,665 The city of San Diego's 2025 2445 01:27:54,665 --> 01:27:57,650 crimes Briefing data shows 2446 01:27:59,537 --> 01:28:00,237 meaningful declines in violent 2447 01:28:00,237 --> 01:28:02,637 and violent crimes robberies, 2448 01:28:04,775 --> 01:28:05,609 burglaries and vehicle theft. 2449 01:28:05,609 --> 01:28:08,379 I do want to start off by 2450 01:28:08,379 --> 01:28:09,113 commending the men and women of 2451 01:28:09,113 --> 01:28:09,713 the San Diego Police Department 2452 01:28:09,713 --> 01:28:12,713 and Chief Wall for their 2453 01:28:13,518 --> 01:28:14,118 outstanding work in reducing 2454 01:28:14,118 --> 01:28:16,518 crime across the city. 2455 01:28:18,622 --> 01:28:22,222 However, as shown on the graph 2456 01:28:22,326 --> 01:28:25,326 titled Vehicle Theft by Council 2457 01:28:26,297 --> 01:28:26,998 District 2024 versus 2025, 2458 01:28:26,998 --> 01:28:29,398 District eight is significant 2459 01:28:30,668 --> 01:28:33,680 Lee Higher with 1622 vehicle 2460 01:28:34,705 --> 01:28:35,600 thefts in 2024 and 1161 in 2461 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:35,673 2025. 2462 01:28:35,673 --> 01:28:39,273 It does appear that the high 2463 01:28:39,777 --> 01:28:40,478 number of vehicle theft is due 2464 01:28:40,478 --> 01:28:41,112 to the targeting operations by 2465 01:28:41,112 --> 01:28:43,512 criminals around the cross 2466 01:28:44,382 --> 01:28:45,249 border Express. 2467 01:28:45,249 --> 01:28:47,649 In 2024 more than 4 million 2468 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,720 people used Cbdcs to cross over 2469 01:28:53,825 --> 01:28:54,559 to take a flight through 2470 01:28:54,559 --> 01:28:56,559 Rodriguez International Airport 2471 01:28:58,296 --> 01:28:59,630 in Tijuana, Mexico. 2472 01:28:59,630 --> 01:29:02,630 Criminals know the high volume 2473 01:29:03,601 --> 01:29:04,235 of activity at CBCs and it 2474 01:29:04,235 --> 01:29:06,635 shows that they're taking 2475 01:29:07,872 --> 01:29:08,606 advantage of travelers that 2476 01:29:08,606 --> 01:29:11,606 leave their cars unattended for 2477 01:29:12,810 --> 01:29:13,777 days Maybe even weeks. 2478 01:29:13,777 --> 01:29:17,448 Now CBCs is a vital part of my 2479 01:29:17,448 --> 01:29:18,249 district and I would argue it's 2480 01:29:18,249 --> 01:29:18,917 a vital part of the city of San 2481 01:29:18,917 --> 01:29:21,917 Diego and the state of 2482 01:29:22,220 --> 01:29:24,220 California. 2483 01:29:25,623 --> 01:29:26,190 So having CBCs in District 2484 01:29:26,190 --> 01:29:26,691 eight comes with its 2485 01:29:26,691 --> 01:29:28,691 responsibilities. 2486 01:29:30,862 --> 01:29:31,496 My question is what measures is 2487 01:29:31,496 --> 01:29:34,496 the sd pd implementing to 2488 01:29:35,900 --> 01:29:36,568 address the high rate of 2489 01:29:36,568 --> 01:29:37,235 vehicle thefts in this area? 2490 01:29:37,235 --> 01:29:37,669 Thank you for that question, 2491 01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:39,669 Councilmember. 2492 01:29:41,339 --> 01:29:42,106 First let me start by saying 2493 01:29:42,106 --> 01:29:45,106 there has been a considerable 2494 01:29:45,409 --> 01:29:46,378 drop from 2024 to 2025. 2495 01:29:46,378 --> 01:29:46,677 I think we were fewer by 4 or 2496 01:29:46,677 --> 01:29:48,677 500. 2497 01:29:49,981 --> 01:29:50,515 Vehicle thefts just in that in 2498 01:29:50,515 --> 01:29:52,515 your district alone. 2499 01:29:54,352 --> 01:29:55,219 So definitely celebrate 2500 01:29:55,219 --> 01:29:58,219 the progress But there are 2501 01:29:58,823 --> 01:29:59,591 still 1100 other cases from 2502 01:29:59,591 --> 01:30:03,940 this last year that that we do 2503 01:30:03,940 --> 01:30:03,728 need to address and continue 2504 01:30:03,728 --> 01:30:04,462 driving that number down. 2505 01:30:04,462 --> 01:30:05,163 >> I will say that with 2506 01:30:05,163 --> 01:30:07,563 technology like license plate 2507 01:30:08,466 --> 01:30:09,167 readers, we arrested 199 people 2508 01:30:09,167 --> 01:30:12,636 last year for auto theft based 2509 01:30:12,636 --> 01:30:13,338 on the license plate. 2510 01:30:13,338 --> 01:30:15,738 >> Readers in other cities 2511 01:30:16,908 --> 01:30:17,409 around the county are having 2512 01:30:17,409 --> 01:30:18,275 similar progress. 2513 01:30:18,275 --> 01:30:21,875 What we're doing when you look 2514 01:30:22,713 --> 01:30:23,415 at the from a macro level we're 2515 01:30:23,415 --> 01:30:26,885 taking the auto thieves off of 2516 01:30:26,885 --> 01:30:27,586 the playing table and we're 2517 01:30:27,586 --> 01:30:27,986 seeing that across and across 2518 01:30:27,986 --> 01:30:29,986 the country. 2519 01:30:31,756 --> 01:30:32,524 But specifically for that lot 2520 01:30:32,524 --> 01:30:32,924 it is it is a target rich 2521 01:30:32,924 --> 01:30:34,924 environment. 2522 01:30:36,794 --> 01:30:37,429 There's thousands of cars there 2523 01:30:37,429 --> 01:30:40,429 and they're there most of 2524 01:30:40,698 --> 01:30:41,320 the time for an extended period 2525 01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:41,867 . 2526 01:30:41,867 --> 01:30:42,567 And so what it's going to take 2527 01:30:42,567 --> 01:30:45,567 is is really a focused 2528 01:30:46,171 --> 01:30:47,500 enforcement in those lots. 2529 01:30:47,500 --> 01:30:47,806 Some of them are as you know, 2530 01:30:47,806 --> 01:30:50,806 our joint use or federal 2531 01:30:50,942 --> 01:30:51,777 property. 2532 01:30:51,777 --> 01:30:55,377 And so working with our our 2533 01:30:55,747 --> 01:30:56,381 federal partners as well to try 2534 01:30:56,381 --> 01:30:57,490 to address this issue and 2535 01:30:57,490 --> 01:30:59,317 trying to bring additional 2536 01:30:59,317 --> 01:31:01,317 security measures, security 2537 01:31:03,956 --> 01:31:04,723 patrols, whether it is federal 2538 01:31:04,723 --> 01:31:08,323 agents or if it's security or 2539 01:31:08,860 --> 01:31:09,661 San Diego police officers. 2540 01:31:09,661 --> 01:31:10,295 But we are committed to working 2541 01:31:10,295 --> 01:31:13,665 on this and of course your 2542 01:31:13,665 --> 01:31:14,466 office to make sure that that 2543 01:31:14,466 --> 01:31:14,866 we keep it at the forefront. 2544 01:31:14,866 --> 01:31:15,534 Thank you. 2545 01:31:15,534 --> 01:31:17,934 I appreciate your response. 2546 01:31:18,636 --> 01:31:19,700 Recently CBCs did send a memo 2547 01:31:19,700 --> 01:31:21,700 to the mayor. 2548 01:31:23,575 --> 01:31:24,275 I know they sent one to me and 2549 01:31:24,275 --> 01:31:26,275 requesting focused enforcement 2550 01:31:28,347 --> 01:31:28,714 in this area and additional 2551 01:31:28,714 --> 01:31:30,714 security. 2552 01:31:32,684 --> 01:31:33,252 So I look forward to seeing 2553 01:31:33,252 --> 01:31:36,252 that in the next year. 2554 01:31:37,889 --> 01:31:38,190 And thank you for the response 2555 01:31:38,190 --> 01:31:39,570 . 2556 01:31:39,570 --> 01:31:42,261 I want to redirect our focus to 2557 01:31:42,261 --> 01:31:42,727 Del Bird Shia Street in 2558 01:31:42,727 --> 01:31:43,628 District eight. 2559 01:31:43,628 --> 01:31:46,764 In a few minutes we're going to 2560 01:31:46,764 --> 01:31:49,401 hear item 2a1 requesting Del 2561 01:31:49,401 --> 01:31:50,202 Burgett to reduce its speed 2562 01:31:50,202 --> 01:31:53,802 limits by five miles per hour. 2563 01:31:54,539 --> 01:31:55,274 This change follows a citywide 2564 01:31:55,274 --> 01:31:55,974 study which determined that Del 2565 01:31:55,974 --> 01:31:59,511 Brucia has one of the greatest 2566 01:31:59,511 --> 01:32:00,478 needs for speed reduction due 2567 01:32:00,478 --> 01:32:04,490 to and I quote high levels of 2568 01:32:04,490 --> 01:32:04,383 commercial activity and traffic 2569 01:32:04,383 --> 01:32:05,160 volume. 2570 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,416 While there are several 2571 01:32:09,488 --> 01:32:13,880 businesses in the area on Del 2572 01:32:13,825 --> 01:32:14,526 Berjaya such as at Cofix Auto 2573 01:32:14,526 --> 01:32:14,993 San Diego galvanized Inc just 2574 01:32:14,993 --> 01:32:17,393 to name a few. 2575 01:32:18,997 --> 01:32:19,665 The high levels of commercial 2576 01:32:19,665 --> 01:32:22,650 activity and traffic volumes 2577 01:32:24,300 --> 01:32:24,703 can be associated with ongoing 2578 01:32:24,703 --> 01:32:27,103 issues related to prostitution 2579 01:32:29,408 --> 01:32:30,175 activity along Del Bajo. 2580 01:32:30,175 --> 01:32:30,876 Can the department provide an 2581 01:32:30,876 --> 01:32:32,876 update regarding prostitution 2582 01:32:34,847 --> 01:32:37,847 activity and what steps doing 2583 01:32:38,917 --> 01:32:39,717 to combat the prostitution of 2584 01:32:39,717 --> 01:32:40,318 Del Burgess and just in general 2585 01:32:40,318 --> 01:32:42,318 enforcement efforts that 2586 01:32:42,488 --> 01:32:44,888 the priest undertaking to 2587 01:32:47,293 --> 01:32:48,260 address this issue? 2588 01:32:48,260 --> 01:32:51,860 >> Well, first let me let me 2589 01:32:52,231 --> 01:32:52,965 say that the additional large 2590 01:32:52,965 --> 01:32:55,365 vehicles construction trucks in 2591 01:33:00,172 --> 01:33:00,972 that area, the smaller streets 2592 01:33:00,972 --> 01:33:01,573 having slower speeds on there I 2593 01:33:01,573 --> 01:33:02,374 if you want my personal 2594 01:33:02,374 --> 01:33:04,209 opinion, I think it's a is a 2595 01:33:04,209 --> 01:33:04,810 good thing down there with 2596 01:33:04,810 --> 01:33:05,276 those large vehicles in 2597 01:33:05,276 --> 01:33:06,812 congested area. 2598 01:33:06,812 --> 01:33:09,812 But to your point about 2599 01:33:12,184 --> 01:33:12,951 prostitution. 2600 01:33:12,951 --> 01:33:14,853 With the recent change in law, 2601 01:33:14,853 --> 01:33:18,453 we're now able to focus on 2602 01:33:20,325 --> 01:33:20,693 the demand side and address 2603 01:33:20,693 --> 01:33:21,494 the Johns. 2604 01:33:21,494 --> 01:33:25,940 I think we're going to start 2605 01:33:25,564 --> 01:33:26,197 seeing large increases in 2606 01:33:26,197 --> 01:33:28,597 the crimes against society 2607 01:33:30,869 --> 01:33:31,370 decided that were that would be 2608 01:33:31,370 --> 01:33:31,704 recorded, correct? 2609 01:33:31,704 --> 01:33:32,300 Correct. 2610 01:33:32,300 --> 01:33:32,671 Good. 2611 01:33:32,671 --> 01:33:35,700 It's now giving us the tools 2612 01:33:35,700 --> 01:33:35,874 that we need to have an impact. 2613 01:33:35,874 --> 01:33:38,874 And we've had focused efforts 2614 01:33:39,645 --> 01:33:40,212 down there since the day that 2615 01:33:40,212 --> 01:33:42,612 that bill came online. 2616 01:33:44,483 --> 01:33:45,151 And I think will will continue 2617 01:33:45,151 --> 01:33:45,785 over time showing that we're 2618 01:33:45,785 --> 01:33:48,785 going to be consistent and 2619 01:33:49,355 --> 01:33:49,755 we're going to focus on on 2620 01:33:49,755 --> 01:33:51,755 those areas. 2621 01:33:53,326 --> 01:33:54,260 I think you'll continue to see 2622 01:33:54,260 --> 01:33:54,393 that that issue start to 2623 01:33:54,393 --> 01:33:54,694 dissipate. 2624 01:33:54,694 --> 01:33:56,694 Okay. 2625 01:33:57,763 --> 01:33:58,464 Thank you for the response. 2626 01:33:58,464 --> 01:33:58,998 I do want to understand 2627 01:33:58,998 --> 01:34:00,998 the limitations and 2628 01:34:03,669 --> 01:34:04,637 complexities of prostitution 2629 01:34:04,637 --> 01:34:05,404 And but I do want to point out 2630 01:34:05,404 --> 01:34:07,874 if we had open air prostitution 2631 01:34:07,874 --> 01:34:08,608 on prospect Street or Kettner 2632 01:34:08,608 --> 01:34:11,608 Boulevard, I think the response 2633 01:34:12,545 --> 01:34:13,246 from the city would be very 2634 01:34:13,246 --> 01:34:13,813 different than what is being 2635 01:34:13,813 --> 01:34:14,680 shown in Del Battista. 2636 01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,916 And I just I continue to 2637 01:34:17,916 --> 01:34:18,618 implore you, Chief and Mayor 2638 01:34:18,618 --> 01:34:21,618 Gloria, to address this issue. 2639 01:34:22,288 --> 01:34:22,889 I think the residents and 2640 01:34:22,889 --> 01:34:23,656 businesses on Del Birria 2641 01:34:23,656 --> 01:34:27,256 deserve better And I hate to 2642 01:34:27,459 --> 01:34:31,590 end on a negative note because 2643 01:34:32,131 --> 01:34:32,832 this is a very good uptick that 2644 01:34:32,832 --> 01:34:33,566 we're seeing across the board 2645 01:34:33,566 --> 01:34:36,869 from for the city of San Diego. 2646 01:34:36,869 --> 01:34:37,570 But these are the realities 2647 01:34:37,570 --> 01:34:40,570 that residents in my district 2648 01:34:42,410 --> 01:34:42,742 are experience facing and it's 2649 01:34:42,742 --> 01:34:43,209 my responsibility to advocate 2650 01:34:43,209 --> 01:34:45,209 for my district. 2651 01:34:46,713 --> 01:34:47,447 So all in all kudos for 2652 01:34:47,447 --> 01:34:47,980 the improvement across the city 2653 01:34:47,980 --> 01:34:49,980 Definitely reflects 2654 01:34:51,500 --> 01:34:51,750 the dedication professional 2655 01:34:51,750 --> 01:34:52,451 wisdom and commitment of our 2656 01:34:52,451 --> 01:34:56,510 officers who work every day to 2657 01:34:56,289 --> 01:34:57,155 keep San Diego safe. 2658 01:34:57,155 --> 01:35:00,755 So just in general just really 2659 01:35:01,227 --> 01:35:01,894 wonderful job that you guys are 2660 01:35:01,894 --> 01:35:04,894 doing on those two items. 2661 01:35:06,650 --> 01:35:06,666 I will elevate them just so we 2662 01:35:06,666 --> 01:35:07,233 can get more attention. 2663 01:35:07,233 --> 01:35:07,599 But thank you for your 2664 01:35:07,599 --> 01:35:09,599 response. 2665 01:35:11,537 --> 01:35:12,272 Councilmember if I if I MAY, I 2666 01:35:12,272 --> 01:35:12,972 think our officers have engaged 2667 01:35:12,972 --> 01:35:13,539 quite a few men over the past 2668 01:35:13,539 --> 01:35:15,939 couple of years about 2669 01:35:16,409 --> 01:35:17,143 prostitution on Dabaja. 2670 01:35:17,143 --> 01:35:17,777 Through that advocacy the state 2671 01:35:17,777 --> 01:35:20,313 law that she for reference 2672 01:35:20,313 --> 01:35:21,800 allowed us to take enforcement 2673 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:21,714 be on special operations and 2674 01:35:21,714 --> 01:35:22,448 really return it to patrol 2675 01:35:22,448 --> 01:35:25,117 officers to have that sustained 2676 01:35:25,117 --> 01:35:25,851 enforcement. 2677 01:35:25,851 --> 01:35:26,619 The work is not done there. 2678 01:35:26,619 --> 01:35:29,856 I think as we continue to look 2679 01:35:29,856 --> 01:35:30,623 at this issue, continue to 2680 01:35:30,623 --> 01:35:31,357 advocate at the state to have 2681 01:35:31,357 --> 01:35:31,924 additional legislation that can 2682 01:35:31,924 --> 01:35:34,861 allow us to go towards 2683 01:35:34,861 --> 01:35:35,561 the victim services side as 2684 01:35:35,561 --> 01:35:36,262 well and ensure folks that are 2685 01:35:36,262 --> 01:35:38,865 being trafficked in that area 2686 01:35:38,865 --> 01:35:39,565 have resources and that we're 2687 01:35:39,565 --> 01:35:40,266 able to engage with them. 2688 01:35:40,266 --> 01:35:40,867 So understood that the work is 2689 01:35:40,867 --> 01:35:43,867 not yet done but looking 2690 01:35:44,905 --> 01:35:45,505 forward to continued engagement 2691 01:35:45,505 --> 01:35:45,871 with your office there. 2692 01:35:45,871 --> 01:35:46,472 All right. 2693 01:35:46,472 --> 01:35:46,806 Thank you, Councilmember 2694 01:35:46,806 --> 01:35:47,439 Moreno. 2695 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,439 The next to council member 2696 01:35:52,178 --> 01:35:52,946 Campbell Thank you Council 2697 01:35:52,946 --> 01:35:56,546 PRESIDENT And thanks to you for 2698 01:35:57,170 --> 01:35:57,750 the wonderful presentation and 2699 01:35:57,750 --> 01:35:58,418 the good work that it shows and 2700 01:35:58,418 --> 01:36:01,418 to all the police department 2701 01:36:01,888 --> 01:36:02,755 for all the work to keep 2702 01:36:02,755 --> 01:36:06,159 the city of San Diego one of 2703 01:36:06,159 --> 01:36:06,859 the biggest and one of 2704 01:36:06,859 --> 01:36:07,260 the safest and biggest cities 2705 01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:09,260 in America. 2706 01:36:10,931 --> 01:36:11,597 It's great news to see that 2707 01:36:11,597 --> 01:36:14,467 the crime rates continue to 2708 01:36:14,467 --> 01:36:15,335 decrease again and now by 6.3%. 2709 01:36:15,335 --> 01:36:18,905 This is the fifth year in a row 2710 01:36:18,905 --> 01:36:19,673 that crime has gone down. 2711 01:36:19,673 --> 01:36:20,373 It's especially good to see 2712 01:36:20,373 --> 01:36:23,373 that hate crimes in general 2713 01:36:24,144 --> 01:36:24,510 have decreased by 32% in 2714 01:36:24,510 --> 01:36:26,510 the city. 2715 01:36:27,914 --> 01:36:28,582 The issue of hate crimes was 2716 01:36:28,582 --> 01:36:29,249 one plaguing our communities 2717 01:36:29,249 --> 01:36:32,849 for the last couple of years 2718 01:36:32,918 --> 01:36:33,519 and I'm relieved to see that 2719 01:36:33,519 --> 01:36:34,254 our efforts have helped 2720 01:36:34,254 --> 01:36:36,654 decrease hate crimes especially 2721 01:36:37,890 --> 01:36:38,558 against our lgbtq community and 2722 01:36:38,558 --> 01:36:40,958 especially against people of 2723 01:36:43,290 --> 01:36:43,629 color who for decades have been 2724 01:36:43,629 --> 01:36:43,963 the main victims of such 2725 01:36:43,963 --> 01:36:45,963 crimes. 2726 01:36:47,667 --> 01:36:50,667 However, it is concerning to 2727 01:36:51,738 --> 01:36:54,738 see that religious hate crimes 2728 01:36:56,900 --> 01:36:56,309 have increased in the city by 2729 01:36:56,309 --> 01:36:57,770 150%. 2730 01:36:57,770 --> 01:37:00,770 An increase in religious hate 2731 01:37:01,414 --> 01:37:02,480 crimes harms the safety and 2732 01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:04,448 unity of our communities. 2733 01:37:05,619 --> 01:37:06,286 It undermines the fundamental 2734 01:37:06,286 --> 01:37:06,620 American value of religious 2735 01:37:06,620 --> 01:37:08,620 freedom. 2736 01:37:10,857 --> 01:37:11,491 It is a central that we stand 2737 01:37:11,491 --> 01:37:13,891 firmly against hatred and 2738 01:37:15,594 --> 01:37:16,263 ensure that every person can 2739 01:37:16,263 --> 01:37:16,563 practice their faith without 2740 01:37:16,563 --> 01:37:18,563 fear. 2741 01:37:21,340 --> 01:37:21,335 People ask What can I do to 2742 01:37:21,335 --> 01:37:23,335 help? 2743 01:37:25,105 --> 01:37:25,672 Well here's a suggestion. 2744 01:37:25,672 --> 01:37:27,672 Anytime someone you're 2745 01:37:29,275 --> 01:37:29,909 conversing with makes a comment 2746 01:37:29,909 --> 01:37:30,577 that is against someone's 2747 01:37:30,577 --> 01:37:33,577 religion tell them to stop. 2748 01:37:35,182 --> 01:37:35,549 Tell them to stop saying things 2749 01:37:35,549 --> 01:37:37,549 like that. 2750 01:37:39,719 --> 01:37:40,319 i remind them that our 2751 01:37:40,319 --> 01:37:42,319 Constitution guarantees 2752 01:37:44,257 --> 01:37:45,125 the freedom of all religions. 2753 01:37:45,125 --> 01:37:45,826 As a matter of fact, when we 2754 01:37:45,826 --> 01:37:49,129 began as a country all those 2755 01:37:49,129 --> 01:37:49,763 hundreds of years ago, many of 2756 01:37:49,763 --> 01:37:52,763 the people who started our 2757 01:37:53,967 --> 01:37:54,600 country came here because they 2758 01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,600 needed religious freedom. 2759 01:37:58,338 --> 01:37:59,373 Never forget that. 2760 01:37:59,373 --> 01:38:03,573 And in other words and on other 2761 01:38:03,744 --> 01:38:04,411 items in district to my 2762 01:38:04,411 --> 01:38:08,110 district I want to thank you 2763 01:38:08,810 --> 01:38:08,681 are crime is down by 6% this 2764 01:38:08,681 --> 01:38:11,681 year And across the city 2765 01:38:12,386 --> 01:38:12,686 the numbers are just incredible 2766 01:38:12,686 --> 01:38:13,454 . 2767 01:38:13,454 --> 01:38:15,854 Wonderful murders drop by 25% 2768 01:38:17,691 --> 01:38:19,691 nonfatal shootings 21% down, 2769 01:38:21,761 --> 01:38:22,960 vehicle theft down by 22% 2770 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:24,960 overall. 2771 01:38:26,330 --> 01:38:27,000 And this is all great news And 2772 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:27,768 I think a lot of it is because 2773 01:38:27,768 --> 01:38:30,768 of our smart technology that 2774 01:38:31,171 --> 01:38:31,839 dramatically improves our 2775 01:38:31,839 --> 01:38:34,839 officers ability to do their 2776 01:38:35,642 --> 01:38:36,376 jobs And additionally these 2777 01:38:36,376 --> 01:38:39,976 trends show that this mayor and 2778 01:38:41,248 --> 01:38:41,949 this city council and this 2779 01:38:41,949 --> 01:38:44,349 department are committed to 2780 01:38:46,860 --> 01:38:49,860 ensuring that San Diego remains 2781 01:38:50,891 --> 01:38:51,692 either at the top or MAY be 2782 01:38:51,692 --> 01:38:52,920 this year even We might be 2783 01:38:52,920 --> 01:38:54,920 number two. 2784 01:38:55,562 --> 01:38:56,129 I'm not sure of America's 2785 01:38:56,129 --> 01:38:58,129 safest cities overall. 2786 01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:00,901 I'm once again committing my 2787 01:39:00,901 --> 01:39:01,569 full support to our police 2788 01:39:01,569 --> 01:39:04,569 officers because I want our 2789 01:39:05,639 --> 01:39:06,207 communities to remain safe and 2790 01:39:06,207 --> 01:39:07,700 so do more residents. 2791 01:39:07,700 --> 01:39:10,607 I want to thank all our 2792 01:39:10,610 --> 01:39:11,478 officers who are working long 2793 01:39:11,478 --> 01:39:15,780 hours keeping us all safe and 2794 01:39:15,281 --> 01:39:15,849 yet you've been able to 2795 01:39:15,849 --> 01:39:16,217 decrease the amount of 2796 01:39:16,217 --> 01:39:18,217 overtime. 2797 01:39:19,553 --> 01:39:20,421 Thank you so much And MAY we 2798 01:39:20,421 --> 01:39:24,210 please have good results in our 2799 01:39:24,492 --> 01:39:26,892 recruitment for new officers? 2800 01:39:35,710 --> 01:39:37,710 Thank you. 2801 01:39:51,219 --> 01:39:51,623 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 2802 01:39:51,623 --> 01:39:53,510 Thank you, Council member 2803 01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:55,510 Campbell. 2804 01:39:58,516 --> 01:39:59,774 We'll go next to Council Member 2805 01:39:59,774 --> 01:40:01,605 Campo Thank you. 2806 01:40:01,605 --> 01:40:01,998 Council PRESIDENT Thank you 2807 01:40:01,998 --> 01:40:03,517 Chief and thank you to the San 2808 01:40:03,517 --> 01:40:05,917 Diego Police Department for 2809 01:40:06,294 --> 01:40:08,294 your good work. 2810 01:40:11,299 --> 01:40:12,992 I just want to start by 2811 01:40:12,992 --> 01:40:15,992 recognizing the work of our 2812 01:40:16,767 --> 01:40:17,161 officers and our community 2813 01:40:17,161 --> 01:40:17,868 partners even while operating 2814 01:40:17,868 --> 01:40:18,251 with fewer officers per capita 2815 01:40:18,251 --> 01:40:18,635 than comparable major cities, 2816 01:40:18,635 --> 01:40:19,322 they continue to deliver 2817 01:40:19,322 --> 01:40:19,701 excellent results and help keep 2818 01:40:19,701 --> 01:40:20,940 San Diego one of the safest 2819 01:40:20,940 --> 01:40:21,940 large cities in the country. 2820 01:40:21,940 --> 01:40:22,699 In years past I've pointed out 2821 01:40:22,699 --> 01:40:23,750 those figures but today I'll 2822 01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:23,891 just remind folks that for our 2823 01:40:23,891 --> 01:40:25,303 population we should have 2824 01:40:25,303 --> 01:40:25,687 closer to 2600 officers. 2825 01:40:25,687 --> 01:40:26,369 I personally would like to see 2826 01:40:26,369 --> 01:40:26,754 a plan to get us to 2000 2827 01:40:26,754 --> 01:40:27,433 officers in the next three 2828 01:40:27,433 --> 01:40:27,827 years. 2829 01:40:27,827 --> 01:40:28,218 I think that's an ambitious but 2830 01:40:28,218 --> 01:40:28,882 also realistic goal. 2831 01:40:28,882 --> 01:40:29,728 Public safety also means 2832 01:40:29,728 --> 01:40:31,136 prevention and that's why I've 2833 01:40:31,136 --> 01:40:33,536 supported programs that work 2834 01:40:36,142 --> 01:40:37,923 directly in communities that 2835 01:40:37,923 --> 01:40:38,539 interrupt cycles of violence 2836 01:40:38,539 --> 01:40:39,521 before they're started as well 2837 01:40:39,521 --> 01:40:39,931 as supporting well vetted 2838 01:40:39,931 --> 01:40:40,769 technologies. 2839 01:40:40,769 --> 01:40:42,412 And of course while hate crimes 2840 01:40:42,412 --> 01:40:45,412 are reportedly down, we know 2841 01:40:47,413 --> 01:40:49,473 that many incidents still go 2842 01:40:49,473 --> 01:40:50,347 unreported. 2843 01:40:50,347 --> 01:40:50,729 At a time when hateful rhetoric 2844 01:40:50,729 --> 01:40:51,422 is more normalized, it's 2845 01:40:51,422 --> 01:40:53,170 critical that our community 2846 01:40:53,170 --> 01:40:54,190 continues to speak out and have 2847 01:40:54,190 --> 01:40:54,395 people report these incidents. 2848 01:40:54,395 --> 01:40:55,816 Hopefully the San Diego Police 2849 01:40:55,816 --> 01:40:58,216 Department or their law 2850 01:40:58,416 --> 01:40:58,811 enforcement agencies but if not 2851 01:40:58,811 --> 01:40:59,480 to trusted community partners 2852 01:40:59,480 --> 01:40:59,869 so we can connect them with 2853 01:40:59,869 --> 01:41:00,699 resources. 2854 01:41:00,699 --> 01:41:01,708 Also I want to point out that 2855 01:41:01,708 --> 01:41:02,444 we are a border city and we are 2856 01:41:02,444 --> 01:41:03,123 also one of the largest safe 2857 01:41:03,123 --> 01:41:03,804 cities in the country for many 2858 01:41:03,804 --> 01:41:04,622 years running because we're 2859 01:41:04,622 --> 01:41:05,600 focusing on protecting people 2860 01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:05,681 and strengthening communities 2861 01:41:05,681 --> 01:41:06,365 good crime prevention and good 2862 01:41:06,365 --> 01:41:08,765 crime solving helped to 2863 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:13,202 reinforce that We as a city are 2864 01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:16,247 upholding our top charter 2865 01:41:16,247 --> 01:41:18,247 obligation. 2866 01:41:26,456 --> 01:41:26,838 It's stated plain and clear 2867 01:41:26,838 --> 01:41:27,544 which is keeping San Diego 2868 01:41:27,544 --> 01:41:27,916 safe. 2869 01:41:27,916 --> 01:41:28,286 Chief, I have a question for 2870 01:41:28,286 --> 01:41:29,555 you and your staff about crime 2871 01:41:29,555 --> 01:41:30,968 clearance. 2872 01:41:30,968 --> 01:41:31,942 I'm sorry about the feedback. 2873 01:41:31,942 --> 01:41:32,617 Crime clearance It's an odd 2874 01:41:32,617 --> 01:41:33,297 phrase to members of the public 2875 01:41:33,297 --> 01:41:33,676 but basically it means arrests 2876 01:41:33,676 --> 01:41:34,337 and apprehensions when a crime 2877 01:41:34,337 --> 01:41:35,134 is reported. 2878 01:41:35,134 --> 01:41:36,535 I'm glad to see that those 2879 01:41:36,535 --> 01:41:38,535 statistics have stayed 2880 01:41:40,335 --> 01:41:40,687 basically stable or increased 2881 01:41:40,687 --> 01:41:41,493 for property crimes because 2882 01:41:41,493 --> 01:41:44,493 that's the first modicum of 2883 01:41:45,295 --> 01:41:45,946 justice for many victims to 2884 01:41:45,946 --> 01:41:46,283 know that the police department 2885 01:41:46,283 --> 01:41:46,618 has actually apprehended 2886 01:41:46,618 --> 01:41:46,948 someone who has allegedly 2887 01:41:46,948 --> 01:41:47,264 created committed a crime. 2888 01:41:47,264 --> 01:41:47,591 I'm wondering how difficult it 2889 01:41:47,591 --> 01:41:47,915 would be for San Diego Police 2890 01:41:47,915 --> 01:41:48,545 Department to see how many of 2891 01:41:48,545 --> 01:41:48,884 those cleared cases actually 2892 01:41:48,884 --> 01:41:49,216 have led to guilty convictions 2893 01:41:49,216 --> 01:41:49,548 or dismissal for whatever 2894 01:41:49,548 --> 01:41:49,873 reason. 2895 01:41:49,873 --> 01:41:50,489 Is that data able to be 2896 01:41:50,489 --> 01:41:51,125 collected from the da's office 2897 01:41:51,125 --> 01:41:51,451 or the city attorney's office 2898 01:41:51,451 --> 01:41:51,765 in handling those cases so that 2899 01:41:51,765 --> 01:41:52,840 the public can understand and 2900 01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,476 have a more complete picture of 2901 01:41:55,476 --> 01:41:55,944 what accountability is truly 2902 01:41:55,944 --> 01:41:56,555 being achieved? 2903 01:41:56,555 --> 01:41:59,555 Can we get that data? 2904 01:42:06,706 --> 01:42:11,506 Can we dig into that data So we 2905 01:42:48,766 --> 01:42:52,366 actually see that a lot of 2906 01:43:09,804 --> 01:43:12,804 these crimes where people are 2907 01:43:30,835 --> 01:43:33,235 being apprehended actually lead 2908 01:43:51,875 --> 01:43:54,275 to substantial justice through 2909 01:44:12,911 --> 01:44:16,511 either a guilty plea or a 2910 01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,360 dismissal when the person 2911 01:45:18,660 --> 01:45:21,660 cannot be proven beyond a 2912 01:45:41,118 --> 01:45:43,118 reasonable doubt guilty? 2913 01:46:02,168 --> 01:46:05,168 I would say it's possible. 2914 01:46:23,215 --> 01:46:25,215 Councilmember. 2915 01:46:46,260 --> 01:46:49,260 Unfortunately we do not retain 2916 01:46:53,664 --> 01:46:53,836 that information and don't 2917 01:46:53,836 --> 01:46:54,600 necessarily have access to that 2918 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:54,169 information. 2919 01:46:54,169 --> 01:46:54,333 We'd have to request that 2920 01:46:54,333 --> 01:46:54,501 through the district attorney's 2921 01:46:54,501 --> 01:46:54,677 office as well as the city 2922 01:46:54,677 --> 01:46:54,842 attorney's office. 2923 01:46:54,842 --> 01:46:55,210 I can imagine for both of them 2924 01:46:55,210 --> 01:46:55,186 that would be a pretty 2925 01:46:55,186 --> 01:46:55,358 laborious task to try to weed 2926 01:46:55,358 --> 01:46:55,527 through which agencies each one 2927 01:46:55,527 --> 01:46:55,697 applies to. 2928 01:46:55,697 --> 01:46:55,871 As you know there are a number 2929 01:46:55,871 --> 01:46:56,360 of other factors that that go 2930 01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:56,206 into each of these cases. 2931 01:46:56,206 --> 01:46:56,380 But at the end of the day I do 2932 01:46:56,380 --> 01:46:56,558 think that they have some data 2933 01:46:56,558 --> 01:46:56,738 we'd have to request from them. 2934 01:46:56,738 --> 01:46:56,914 Okay. 2935 01:46:56,914 --> 01:46:57,920 I'm hoping that next year this 2936 01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:57,258 time maybe with a few 2937 01:46:57,258 --> 01:46:57,444 conversations you can collect 2938 01:46:57,444 --> 01:46:57,609 at least some high level high 2939 01:46:57,609 --> 01:46:57,790 level data as to what that 2940 01:46:57,790 --> 01:46:57,959 looks like. 2941 01:46:57,959 --> 01:46:58,138 Because when you look at 2942 01:46:58,138 --> 01:46:58,310 the when you look at the types 2943 01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:58,483 of crimes crimes against 2944 01:46:58,483 --> 01:46:58,650 persons, oftentimes there's 2945 01:46:58,650 --> 01:46:58,833 human witnesses. 2946 01:46:58,833 --> 01:46:58,997 It's a violent crime. 2947 01:46:58,997 --> 01:46:59,159 There's some substantial 2948 01:46:59,159 --> 01:46:59,324 property crime. 2949 01:46:59,324 --> 01:46:59,500 Usually there's no one watching 2950 01:46:59,500 --> 01:46:59,665 crimes against society. 2951 01:46:59,665 --> 01:46:59,845 Typically the police officer is 2952 01:46:59,845 --> 01:47:00,100 the is the witness to what is 2953 01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:00,183 oftentimes a drug crime. 2954 01:47:00,183 --> 01:47:00,348 Right. 2955 01:47:00,348 --> 01:47:00,514 So I would hope you could have 2956 01:47:00,514 --> 01:47:00,694 those conversations, see what 2957 01:47:00,694 --> 01:47:00,859 we can get. 2958 01:47:00,859 --> 01:47:01,380 The next year we have a more 2959 01:47:01,380 --> 01:47:01,210 robust picture because I think 2960 01:47:01,210 --> 01:47:01,376 the public can look at these 2961 01:47:01,376 --> 01:47:01,543 these numbers but also say 2962 01:47:01,543 --> 01:47:01,709 well, who's actually being held 2963 01:47:01,709 --> 01:47:01,876 accountable? 2964 01:47:01,876 --> 01:47:02,450 I think a lot of people think 2965 01:47:02,450 --> 01:47:02,209 that nobody is being held 2966 01:47:02,209 --> 01:47:02,388 accountable. 2967 01:47:02,388 --> 01:47:02,555 But I know that's not 2968 01:47:02,555 --> 01:47:02,719 the truth. 2969 01:47:02,719 --> 01:47:02,884 I know the da's office and 2970 01:47:02,884 --> 01:47:03,680 the city attorney's office 2971 01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:03,236 successfully prosecute many, 2972 01:47:03,236 --> 01:47:03,399 many crimes. 2973 01:47:03,399 --> 01:47:03,589 So if you can have those 2974 01:47:03,589 --> 01:47:03,756 conversations and by next year 2975 01:47:03,756 --> 01:47:03,928 have some report back on that, 2976 01:47:03,928 --> 01:47:04,100 I'll ask the question next 2977 01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:04,265 year. 2978 01:47:04,265 --> 01:47:04,435 So you have 365 days Heads up. 2979 01:47:04,435 --> 01:47:04,611 Thank you for your good work. 2980 01:47:04,611 --> 01:47:04,778 Thank you for the time. 2981 01:47:04,778 --> 01:47:04,945 Council PRESIDENT Thank you 2982 01:47:04,945 --> 01:47:05,121 Council member camp here. 2983 01:47:05,121 --> 01:47:05,286 We'll go next to Council member 2984 01:47:05,286 --> 01:47:05,456 Foster Yes thank you Council 2985 01:47:05,456 --> 01:47:05,622 PRESIDENT And thank you chief 2986 01:47:05,622 --> 01:47:05,787 to you and your team for 2987 01:47:05,787 --> 01:47:05,968 the presentation. 2988 01:47:05,968 --> 01:47:06,146 I guess I will start with 2989 01:47:06,146 --> 01:47:06,314 congratulations and a good job 2990 01:47:06,314 --> 01:47:06,476 Job well done. 2991 01:47:06,476 --> 01:47:06,646 You know, typically I think 2992 01:47:06,646 --> 01:47:06,814 there are folks out there that 2993 01:47:06,814 --> 01:47:06,981 would say I tend to be more or 2994 01:47:06,981 --> 01:47:07,146 to criticize San Diego police 2995 01:47:07,146 --> 01:47:07,313 than to congrats to you. 2996 01:47:07,313 --> 01:47:07,480 But I think on the efforts and 2997 01:47:07,480 --> 01:47:07,650 the data is clear that we are 2998 01:47:07,650 --> 01:47:08,670 the safest, largest city And so 2999 01:47:08,670 --> 01:47:08,235 thank you for that. 3000 01:47:08,235 --> 01:47:08,430 Thank you to your team also I 3001 01:47:08,430 --> 01:47:08,606 just want to say thank you as 3002 01:47:08,606 --> 01:47:08,785 we have are one of our credible 3003 01:47:08,785 --> 01:47:08,968 messenger teams here today 3004 01:47:08,968 --> 01:47:09,137 started working on bringing 3005 01:47:09,137 --> 01:47:09,305 credible messengers to the city 3006 01:47:09,305 --> 01:47:09,472 of San Diego as I was the chief 3007 01:47:09,472 --> 01:47:09,640 of staff for District four and 3008 01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:09,819 it was a task to bring that 3009 01:47:09,819 --> 01:47:09,989 forward and we were able to 3010 01:47:09,989 --> 01:47:10,159 start with the no shots fired 3011 01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:10,331 team and bringing them on 3012 01:47:10,331 --> 01:47:10,501 board. 3013 01:47:10,501 --> 01:47:10,669 But I want to thank you 3014 01:47:10,669 --> 01:47:10,852 personally for your efforts 3015 01:47:10,852 --> 01:47:11,200 because we have expanded on 3016 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:11,342 things that we'd like to take 3017 01:47:11,342 --> 01:47:11,508 my council colleagues on for 3018 01:47:11,508 --> 01:47:11,678 their support in expanding on 3019 01:47:11,678 --> 01:47:11,846 the alternative and continuing 3020 01:47:11,846 --> 01:47:12,140 the investment in no shots 3021 01:47:12,140 --> 01:47:12,186 fired continuing to pursue 3022 01:47:12,186 --> 01:47:12,359 capital grants and also thank 3023 01:47:12,359 --> 01:47:12,530 you to my colleagues for 3024 01:47:12,530 --> 01:47:12,696 the efforts in creating 3025 01:47:12,696 --> 01:47:12,869 the drop in centers. 3026 01:47:12,869 --> 01:47:13,430 I think that work speaks for 3027 01:47:13,430 --> 01:47:13,233 itself and I think it is 3028 01:47:13,233 --> 01:47:13,404 necessary work and hopefully 3029 01:47:13,404 --> 01:47:13,579 you and your team see 3030 01:47:13,579 --> 01:47:13,774 the importance and 3031 01:47:13,774 --> 01:47:13,951 the assistance that they 3032 01:47:13,951 --> 01:47:14,123 provide in certain 3033 01:47:14,123 --> 01:47:14,299 circumstances. 3034 01:47:14,299 --> 01:47:14,485 So I just really want to thank 3035 01:47:14,485 --> 01:47:14,656 you and also thank you to 3036 01:47:14,656 --> 01:47:14,830 the mayor's office and his team 3037 01:47:14,830 --> 01:47:15,500 for continuing those efforts. 3038 01:47:15,500 --> 01:47:15,177 I know it's not easy but you 3039 01:47:15,177 --> 01:47:15,353 have shown if you provide 3040 01:47:15,353 --> 01:47:15,544 the opportunity there are 3041 01:47:15,544 --> 01:47:15,713 avenues and good work that's 3042 01:47:15,713 --> 01:47:15,883 being done. 3043 01:47:15,883 --> 01:47:16,750 I myself work closely with a 3044 01:47:16,750 --> 01:47:16,244 few of the organizations you 3045 01:47:16,244 --> 01:47:16,418 know I always call no matter 3046 01:47:16,418 --> 01:47:16,592 what the night is as I hear 3047 01:47:16,592 --> 01:47:16,765 activity I live in one of 3048 01:47:16,765 --> 01:47:16,938 the main corridors for 3049 01:47:16,938 --> 01:47:17,113 Southeastern Division and so i 3050 01:47:17,113 --> 01:47:17,285 hear a lot of the activities 3051 01:47:17,285 --> 01:47:17,460 and things that go on and I am 3052 01:47:17,460 --> 01:47:17,632 always first of all on 3053 01:47:17,632 --> 01:47:17,805 the phone to make sure that we 3054 01:47:17,805 --> 01:47:17,975 are interrupting violence and 3055 01:47:17,975 --> 01:47:18,147 trying our best to keep our 3056 01:47:18,147 --> 01:47:18,314 neighborhoods safe. 3057 01:47:18,314 --> 01:47:18,489 So I just want to thank you for 3058 01:47:18,489 --> 01:47:18,691 those efforts Also I do 3059 01:47:18,691 --> 01:47:18,882 appreciate my colleague's line 3060 01:47:18,882 --> 01:47:19,570 of question questioning on 3061 01:47:19,570 --> 01:47:19,257 things don't for training as as 3062 01:47:19,257 --> 01:47:19,429 you know we you know there's 3063 01:47:19,429 --> 01:47:19,600 several sides to policing and 3064 01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:19,772 as we as we are doing the good 3065 01:47:19,772 --> 01:47:19,945 work and in keeping our 3066 01:47:19,945 --> 01:47:20,117 community safe there's also 3067 01:47:20,117 --> 01:47:20,285 some other things that we need 3068 01:47:20,285 --> 01:47:20,454 to continue to work on. 3069 01:47:20,454 --> 01:47:20,627 We're all human know ones above 3070 01:47:20,627 --> 01:47:20,798 making a mistake myself 3071 01:47:20,798 --> 01:47:20,967 included. 3072 01:47:20,967 --> 01:47:21,137 And so I just want to thank you 3073 01:47:21,137 --> 01:47:21,311 for the time and effort you're 3074 01:47:21,311 --> 01:47:21,505 taking to to to work on those 3075 01:47:21,505 --> 01:47:21,684 types of issues to look at 3076 01:47:21,684 --> 01:47:21,857 internally what we can do 3077 01:47:21,857 --> 01:47:22,260 better And I'm sure you'll have 3078 01:47:22,260 --> 01:47:22,272 some more time to go into more 3079 01:47:22,272 --> 01:47:23,600 detail about those efforts and 3080 01:47:23,600 --> 01:47:26,175 the certain things that you are 3081 01:47:26,175 --> 01:47:27,109 doing with training. 3082 01:47:27,109 --> 01:47:30,615 So I truly do appreciate that 3083 01:47:30,615 --> 01:47:31,347 as well. 3084 01:47:31,347 --> 01:47:35,217 The one question I do have a 3085 01:47:35,217 --> 01:47:36,180 couple of questions and I just 3086 01:47:36,180 --> 01:47:36,786 want to ask this this of you 3087 01:47:36,786 --> 01:47:40,386 because one thing that I will 3088 01:47:40,489 --> 01:47:41,157 always say and I've said this 3089 01:47:41,157 --> 01:47:41,957 before I truly do believe at 3090 01:47:41,957 --> 01:47:44,957 certain times we do a 3091 01:47:45,528 --> 01:47:46,396 disservice to our officers and 3092 01:47:46,396 --> 01:47:46,696 I think we have put a lot on 3093 01:47:46,696 --> 01:47:48,696 them. 3094 01:47:50,366 --> 01:47:51,340 And so I just want to ask do 3095 01:47:51,340 --> 01:47:52,201 you employ or does the city 3096 01:47:52,201 --> 01:47:55,201 employ any social workers that 3097 01:47:57,307 --> 01:47:57,807 you that you know of directly? 3098 01:47:57,807 --> 01:47:58,640 >> Directly? 3099 01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,640 No, we don't have any 3100 01:48:02,712 --> 01:48:03,579 behavioral health per se. 3101 01:48:03,579 --> 01:48:06,882 Folks on what I want to say 3102 01:48:06,882 --> 01:48:07,650 city staff not to say we MAY 3103 01:48:07,650 --> 01:48:08,418 not be contracting as we work 3104 01:48:08,418 --> 01:48:11,418 with our experts in certain 3105 01:48:12,322 --> 01:48:13,189 things but our core services 3106 01:48:13,189 --> 01:48:16,789 that we provide we do not 3107 01:48:16,859 --> 01:48:17,427 employ those types of 3108 01:48:17,427 --> 01:48:17,894 individuals, correct? 3109 01:48:17,894 --> 01:48:18,194 That's correct. 3110 01:48:18,194 --> 01:48:18,895 Okay. 3111 01:48:18,895 --> 01:48:21,931 I just want to make sure we're 3112 01:48:21,931 --> 01:48:22,699 clear because we ask a lot of 3113 01:48:22,699 --> 01:48:26,299 our officers as we deal with 3114 01:48:26,669 --> 01:48:29,690 our homelessness and certain 3115 01:48:31,207 --> 01:48:32,175 issues and often times I find 3116 01:48:32,175 --> 01:48:35,775 that as we are dealing in 3117 01:48:36,460 --> 01:48:36,646 certain circumstances or 3118 01:48:36,646 --> 01:48:37,346 certain incidents arise 3119 01:48:37,346 --> 01:48:40,946 oftentimes you can tie it back 3120 01:48:41,217 --> 01:48:41,951 to certain behavioral health 3121 01:48:41,951 --> 01:48:44,351 circumstances or certain things 3122 01:48:45,889 --> 01:48:46,589 that things MAY not let's say 3123 01:48:46,589 --> 01:48:50,189 finished the way we would want 3124 01:48:51,294 --> 01:48:52,620 them to to to finish right We 3125 01:48:52,620 --> 01:48:52,929 to be to be transparent We do 3126 01:48:52,929 --> 01:48:56,166 partner and they do ride with 3127 01:48:56,166 --> 01:48:57,330 us seven days a week county 3128 01:48:57,330 --> 01:49:00,633 social workers so we don't hire 3129 01:49:00,904 --> 01:49:01,705 social workers as a city 3130 01:49:01,705 --> 01:49:04,705 employee we do partner with 3131 01:49:05,575 --> 01:49:05,942 the county for mental health 3132 01:49:05,942 --> 01:49:06,576 services. 3133 01:49:06,576 --> 01:49:07,176 We partner with them with 3134 01:49:07,176 --> 01:49:09,576 registered nurses and we 3135 01:49:10,179 --> 01:49:10,880 partner with them for social 3136 01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:14,480 workers So we do have them 3137 01:49:14,851 --> 01:49:15,552 available As far as outreach 3138 01:49:15,552 --> 01:49:16,286 into the community, I was 3139 01:49:16,286 --> 01:49:19,286 thinking you were talking about 3140 01:49:21,591 --> 01:49:22,325 more internally work with this 3141 01:49:22,325 --> 01:49:23,260 one officers on a wellness side 3142 01:49:23,260 --> 01:49:24,327 but well that and that as well 3143 01:49:24,327 --> 01:49:25,128 because that is something that 3144 01:49:25,128 --> 01:49:28,728 we also need to address because 3145 01:49:28,899 --> 01:49:29,566 again we are putting a lot on 3146 01:49:29,566 --> 01:49:30,167 our officers And so I do 3147 01:49:30,167 --> 01:49:32,167 appreciate the efforts. 3148 01:49:34,804 --> 01:49:35,505 I do appreciate the results 3149 01:49:35,505 --> 01:49:35,939 from the crime stats that that 3150 01:49:35,939 --> 01:49:37,939 we are seeing. 3151 01:49:39,943 --> 01:49:40,643 So again, I just want to say 3152 01:49:40,643 --> 01:49:41,377 thank you to our officers and 3153 01:49:41,377 --> 01:49:42,120 thank you for the good work and 3154 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:43,446 thank you to your team in 3155 01:49:43,446 --> 01:49:44,414 the mayor's office. 3156 01:49:44,414 --> 01:49:48,284 But I do think we need to do 3157 01:49:48,284 --> 01:49:48,986 more as we have you know, as we 3158 01:49:48,986 --> 01:49:49,686 deal with with the behavioral 3159 01:49:49,686 --> 01:49:52,686 health issues that I think 3160 01:49:53,289 --> 01:49:54,240 there are other agencies 3161 01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:57,240 organizations that need to take 3162 01:49:57,661 --> 01:49:58,162 the lead into to have more 3163 01:49:58,162 --> 01:49:58,862 responsibility and 3164 01:49:58,862 --> 01:50:01,862 accountability so that we can 3165 01:50:03,660 --> 01:50:03,767 address the core What I would 3166 01:50:03,767 --> 01:50:04,635 want to say the core issues of 3167 01:50:04,635 --> 01:50:07,370 some of the things that we are 3168 01:50:07,370 --> 01:50:07,738 experiencing out in our 3169 01:50:07,738 --> 01:50:08,472 community. 3170 01:50:08,472 --> 01:50:09,238 So I just wanted to make sure 3171 01:50:09,238 --> 01:50:12,238 that we talked about that 3172 01:50:17,147 --> 01:50:21,347 briefly As I look at this also 3173 01:50:21,484 --> 01:50:22,385 I just want to ask and I want 3174 01:50:22,385 --> 01:50:23,119 to say this before I leave that 3175 01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:23,920 because I just want everyone to 3176 01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,900 also know that we have a severe 3177 01:50:27,900 --> 01:50:27,690 shortage in our social workers, 3178 01:50:27,690 --> 01:50:30,900 in our behavioral health 3179 01:50:31,895 --> 01:50:32,462 experts and it is a very, very 3180 01:50:32,462 --> 01:50:32,996 large problem and it's 3181 01:50:32,996 --> 01:50:33,397 something that we've 3182 01:50:33,397 --> 01:50:35,397 identified. 3183 01:50:36,233 --> 01:50:36,934 I do sit on the San Diego 3184 01:50:36,934 --> 01:50:37,567 Workforce Partnership where we 3185 01:50:37,567 --> 01:50:40,567 are starting to expand our 3186 01:50:41,105 --> 01:50:41,804 efforts in regards to 3187 01:50:41,804 --> 01:50:42,505 apprenticeships and in certain 3188 01:50:42,505 --> 01:50:43,173 trainings to bring more folks 3189 01:50:43,173 --> 01:50:46,143 in to the behavioral health 3190 01:50:46,143 --> 01:50:46,509 services so we can try and plug 3191 01:50:46,509 --> 01:50:48,509 that gap. 3192 01:50:50,848 --> 01:50:51,548 So we are trying to approach 3193 01:50:51,548 --> 01:50:52,349 this comprehensively on all 3194 01:50:52,349 --> 01:50:55,453 sides As I do recall you know 3195 01:50:55,453 --> 01:50:56,153 me personally I do recognize 3196 01:50:56,153 --> 01:50:59,753 the issues that are out there 3197 01:51:00,123 --> 01:51:00,824 Also I do have a question on 3198 01:51:00,824 --> 01:51:03,824 hate crimes and I guess 3199 01:51:05,161 --> 01:51:05,863 originally and I'll use an 3200 01:51:05,863 --> 01:51:09,463 example there was a moment in 3201 01:51:09,900 --> 01:51:10,668 time where we were having some 3202 01:51:10,668 --> 01:51:14,268 some individuals I guess I will 3203 01:51:15,380 --> 01:51:15,739 say were going around and 3204 01:51:15,739 --> 01:51:16,307 taking pellet guns in certain 3205 01:51:16,307 --> 01:51:18,707 things that were doing 3206 01:51:19,910 --> 01:51:22,310 inappropriate activities in in 3207 01:51:24,915 --> 01:51:25,616 communities and originally I 3208 01:51:25,616 --> 01:51:26,283 thought we were headed down a 3209 01:51:26,283 --> 01:51:29,283 hate crime scenario but it 3210 01:51:29,486 --> 01:51:30,120 looked like once it went 3211 01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:30,787 through the investigative 3212 01:51:30,787 --> 01:51:33,787 process the dea landed where 3213 01:51:34,758 --> 01:51:35,526 they landed it looks like that 3214 01:51:35,526 --> 01:51:36,193 was pulled back to where it was 3215 01:51:36,193 --> 01:51:38,962 not a hate crime If I 3216 01:51:38,962 --> 01:51:39,497 understood what was in 3217 01:51:39,497 --> 01:51:40,130 the media reporting. 3218 01:51:40,130 --> 01:51:43,730 So my question is based on 3219 01:51:44,168 --> 01:51:44,835 the stats that are provided in 3220 01:51:44,835 --> 01:51:45,469 the report, is that based on 3221 01:51:45,469 --> 01:51:48,773 your data or is that a 3222 01:51:48,773 --> 01:51:49,640 determined after the final 3223 01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:52,640 determination of what the dea 3224 01:51:54,770 --> 01:51:54,745 dea does? 3225 01:51:54,745 --> 01:51:55,179 It's a fantastic question, 3226 01:51:55,179 --> 01:51:55,846 Councilmember. 3227 01:51:55,846 --> 01:51:56,546 And without knowing a little 3228 01:51:56,546 --> 01:51:58,649 bit more information, I don't 3229 01:51:58,649 --> 01:51:59,150 know that I can answer it 3230 01:51:59,150 --> 01:51:59,916 correctly. 3231 01:51:59,916 --> 01:52:03,487 >> But let me let me at least 3232 01:52:03,487 --> 01:52:04,188 say this When there's a plea 3233 01:52:04,188 --> 01:52:04,889 deal that's put on the table, 3234 01:52:04,889 --> 01:52:08,192 they MAY take that hate crime 3235 01:52:08,192 --> 01:52:11,192 charge off in terms of 3236 01:52:12,630 --> 01:52:13,330 negotiating for future for a 3237 01:52:13,330 --> 01:52:16,330 resolution of the case without 3238 01:52:17,368 --> 01:52:17,969 having that attached to your to 3239 01:52:17,969 --> 01:52:18,936 your file if you will. 3240 01:52:18,936 --> 01:52:22,239 I can talk a little bit about 3241 01:52:22,239 --> 01:52:22,907 that case because it's a 3242 01:52:22,907 --> 01:52:25,907 fantastic example of how we 3243 01:52:27,278 --> 01:52:27,945 work together as one community 3244 01:52:27,945 --> 01:52:30,715 And we had some restorative 3245 01:52:30,715 --> 01:52:31,382 justice there for those 319 3246 01:52:31,382 --> 01:52:33,782 year old individuals who 3247 01:52:35,553 --> 01:52:35,919 clearly were making some bad 3248 01:52:35,919 --> 01:52:37,919 decisions. 3249 01:52:39,624 --> 01:52:40,291 But I think working with the no 3250 01:52:40,291 --> 01:52:40,992 shots fired program, working 3251 01:52:40,992 --> 01:52:43,992 with the courts, working with 3252 01:52:45,162 --> 01:52:48,762 the community, we were able to 3253 01:52:49,299 --> 01:52:50,101 get these kids back on track 3254 01:52:50,101 --> 01:52:50,701 and they're not going to be 3255 01:52:50,701 --> 01:52:51,435 tarred and feathered for 3256 01:52:51,435 --> 01:52:53,738 the rest of their lives because 3257 01:52:53,738 --> 01:52:54,405 as bad decisions as 90 year 3258 01:52:54,405 --> 01:52:58,500 olds So very proud of that 3259 01:52:58,750 --> 01:52:58,709 case, very proud of the lgbt 3260 01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:59,577 youth community for coming 3261 01:52:59,577 --> 01:53:02,780 forward and sharing how it felt 3262 01:53:02,780 --> 01:53:04,780 to be targeted. 3263 01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:08,386 But having the strength to 3264 01:53:08,386 --> 01:53:10,386 forgive. 3265 01:53:12,322 --> 01:53:12,957 I just think it was it's a 3266 01:53:12,957 --> 01:53:13,658 perfect example of why San 3267 01:53:13,658 --> 01:53:17,258 Diego was a great, great city 3268 01:53:17,461 --> 01:53:18,620 and I appreciate that because I 3269 01:53:18,620 --> 01:53:18,762 don't think folks truly 3270 01:53:18,762 --> 01:53:20,980 understand the details and how 3271 01:53:20,980 --> 01:53:22,980 everything works together. 3272 01:53:25,436 --> 01:53:26,303 So I do appreciate that. 3273 01:53:26,303 --> 01:53:29,903 >> Let me check my notes really 3274 01:53:30,275 --> 01:53:30,874 quick if you can. 3275 01:53:30,874 --> 01:53:31,576 There's a slide in 3276 01:53:31,576 --> 01:53:32,143 the presentation if you don't 3277 01:53:32,143 --> 01:53:34,543 mind pulling that up. 3278 01:53:35,790 --> 01:53:35,880 I do not see a page number on 3279 01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:40,800 my end but it looks like it's 3280 01:53:40,318 --> 01:53:43,720 an ip address and it says crime 3281 01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:44,588 categories by Council District 3282 01:53:44,588 --> 01:53:45,757 2025 If you can pull that up 3283 01:53:45,757 --> 01:53:48,757 really quick in the on 3284 01:53:51,696 --> 01:53:55,296 the screen is that the green 3285 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:57,168 and blue and red? 3286 01:53:57,168 --> 01:53:59,300 Yeah Yeah Can you control I 3287 01:53:59,300 --> 01:54:02,603 think she's going to get it. 3288 01:54:04,750 --> 01:54:07,278 Oh yeah and we'll try to make 3289 01:54:07,278 --> 01:54:10,278 this quick going about 14 10s 3290 01:54:16,587 --> 01:54:17,155 left to go Okay Thank you. 3291 01:54:17,155 --> 01:54:18,189 There you go. 3292 01:54:18,189 --> 01:54:21,493 And I understand you know as we 3293 01:54:21,493 --> 01:54:25,930 drill back because we did see 3294 01:54:25,930 --> 01:54:26,798 an uptick in certain categories 3295 01:54:26,798 --> 01:54:27,499 as we look at gang some gang 3296 01:54:27,499 --> 01:54:29,899 violence in certain things 3297 01:54:31,736 --> 01:54:32,170 which I know folks are working 3298 01:54:32,170 --> 01:54:32,904 very hard on. 3299 01:54:32,904 --> 01:54:33,872 But I wanted to look at this 3300 01:54:33,872 --> 01:54:36,440 Can you kind of help me to 3301 01:54:36,440 --> 01:54:38,840 better understand what this 3302 01:54:41,813 --> 01:54:44,813 slide represents Sense As I 3303 01:54:45,116 --> 01:54:45,983 look at District four, you know 3304 01:54:45,983 --> 01:54:49,220 it looks like we are in a good 3305 01:54:49,220 --> 01:54:50,880 place as you compare it to 3306 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:54,288 the rest of this city and often 3307 01:54:54,993 --> 01:54:55,727 times as I am out in 3308 01:54:55,727 --> 01:54:59,327 the community or I hear certain 3309 01:54:59,397 --> 01:55:00,310 references to my community is 3310 01:55:00,310 --> 01:55:02,431 typically noted as unsafe. 3311 01:55:04,350 --> 01:55:08,373 But as I look at this chart it 3312 01:55:08,373 --> 01:55:09,730 kind of says the opposite that 3313 01:55:09,730 --> 01:55:09,841 it appears District four is 3314 01:55:09,841 --> 01:55:13,812 actually in a in a good place 3315 01:55:13,812 --> 01:55:14,579 Not to say there's not room for 3316 01:55:14,579 --> 01:55:17,480 improvement as well but it does 3317 01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:17,616 appear that District four is 3318 01:55:17,616 --> 01:55:20,616 not in the top three. 3319 01:55:21,887 --> 01:55:22,587 I guess I'll say Let me let me 3320 01:55:22,587 --> 01:55:24,987 start by saying Councilmember 3321 01:55:26,591 --> 01:55:29,591 that that gang violence overall 3322 01:55:30,695 --> 01:55:31,362 is down 13% While there are 3323 01:55:31,362 --> 01:55:33,762 some categories within gang 3324 01:55:35,734 --> 01:55:36,401 violence that have seen a what 3325 01:55:36,401 --> 01:55:39,401 I would characterize at this 3326 01:55:40,772 --> 01:55:41,573 point is a slight increase that 3327 01:55:41,573 --> 01:55:42,240 we need to focus on But I 3328 01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:44,609 wouldn't declared a problem 3329 01:55:44,609 --> 01:55:45,310 we've seen over the last five 3330 01:55:45,310 --> 01:55:45,977 years a steady decline in gang 3331 01:55:45,977 --> 01:55:48,377 violence and all attributed 3332 01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:50,382 that to community groups like 3333 01:55:50,382 --> 01:55:53,982 the ones that we're here today 3334 01:55:54,152 --> 01:55:54,853 the ones that that aren't 3335 01:55:54,853 --> 01:55:55,554 necessarily here today but are 3336 01:55:55,554 --> 01:55:59,154 out there doing the hard work. 3337 01:55:59,191 --> 01:55:59,825 Our police officers or gang 3338 01:55:59,825 --> 01:56:02,225 intervention unit that is 3339 01:56:03,662 --> 01:56:04,429 starting to mentor kids at a 3340 01:56:04,429 --> 01:56:08,290 young age we're starting to see 3341 01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:09,134 the successes of things that 3342 01:56:09,134 --> 01:56:12,734 have been planted from years in 3343 01:56:13,272 --> 01:56:13,972 the past moving forward if we 3344 01:56:13,972 --> 01:56:14,605 see increases again next year 3345 01:56:14,605 --> 01:56:17,743 in a trend going up then I 3346 01:56:17,743 --> 01:56:18,242 think I'd be a little bit more 3347 01:56:18,242 --> 01:56:18,944 serious about it. 3348 01:56:18,944 --> 01:56:19,311 But I think we have the right 3349 01:56:19,311 --> 01:56:20,440 game plan. 3350 01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:21,847 i think you'll see a normal ebb 3351 01:56:21,847 --> 01:56:22,381 and flow that isn't anything to 3352 01:56:22,381 --> 01:56:23,115 be concerned with. 3353 01:56:23,115 --> 01:56:23,782 We're staying at a low level 3354 01:56:23,782 --> 01:56:24,810 right now and that's a good 3355 01:56:24,810 --> 01:56:26,810 thing. 3356 01:56:27,219 --> 01:56:28,190 But to explain to the color 3357 01:56:28,190 --> 01:56:28,620 chart there, let me ask my 3358 01:56:28,620 --> 01:56:29,540 partner here to do that. 3359 01:56:29,540 --> 01:56:29,354 Thanks to you. 3360 01:56:29,354 --> 01:56:31,354 Yeah. 3361 01:56:32,424 --> 01:56:33,125 Councilmember So to your point, 3362 01:56:33,125 --> 01:56:33,724 I think what you're trying to 3363 01:56:33,724 --> 01:56:34,426 get at is you know, with 3364 01:56:34,426 --> 01:56:37,361 respect to the volume right 3365 01:56:37,361 --> 01:56:38,630 your your district is 3366 01:56:38,630 --> 01:56:38,730 relatively low And the way we 3367 01:56:38,730 --> 01:56:41,730 typically look at this, you 3368 01:56:42,701 --> 01:56:43,401 know, for from ourselves we're 3369 01:56:43,401 --> 01:56:44,136 either looking at a command 3370 01:56:44,136 --> 01:56:47,736 perspective or down all the way 3371 01:56:47,772 --> 01:56:48,507 down to a beat level crime When 3372 01:56:48,507 --> 01:56:49,207 you're looking at kind of macro 3373 01:56:49,207 --> 01:56:52,210 for you know full year view of 3374 01:56:52,210 --> 01:56:52,844 of you know, how did crime go 3375 01:56:52,844 --> 01:56:53,412 and where was the crime it 3376 01:56:53,412 --> 01:56:54,113 tends to follow pretty 3377 01:56:54,113 --> 01:56:56,648 similarly with our call volume 3378 01:56:56,648 --> 01:56:57,316 as well So you know downtown 3379 01:56:57,316 --> 01:57:00,316 the beaches are our shopping 3380 01:57:01,387 --> 01:57:02,120 centers places where you're 3381 01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:02,855 going to have large collections 3382 01:57:02,855 --> 01:57:05,991 of people, you're going to have 3383 01:57:05,991 --> 01:57:06,724 more incidents And so most of 3384 01:57:06,724 --> 01:57:07,260 your district is more suburban, 3385 01:57:07,260 --> 01:57:09,260 right? 3386 01:57:10,396 --> 01:57:11,162 The incidents that we see occur 3387 01:57:11,162 --> 01:57:11,863 in that district are going to 3388 01:57:11,863 --> 01:57:12,164 be a little more diffuse right 3389 01:57:12,164 --> 01:57:12,831 there. 3390 01:57:12,831 --> 01:57:15,831 They're spread out across a 3391 01:57:15,834 --> 01:57:16,535 little bit more randomly than 3392 01:57:16,535 --> 01:57:17,235 they might be in those those 3393 01:57:17,235 --> 01:57:19,635 centralized locations like you 3394 01:57:20,706 --> 01:57:21,406 imagine a shopping center or a 3395 01:57:21,406 --> 01:57:22,400 place where you might have a 3396 01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:22,408 lot of say alcohol related 3397 01:57:22,408 --> 01:57:24,408 incidents. 3398 01:57:25,544 --> 01:57:26,211 And so to your point I think 3399 01:57:26,211 --> 01:57:26,946 with respect to the suburban 3400 01:57:26,946 --> 01:57:30,816 areas we see in the city there 3401 01:57:30,816 --> 01:57:31,450 generally going to be lower 3402 01:57:31,450 --> 01:57:34,450 compared to our good large 3403 01:57:34,887 --> 01:57:35,654 collections of people. 3404 01:57:35,654 --> 01:57:39,254 Okay, very good And thank you 3405 01:57:39,724 --> 01:57:40,426 for that And just again I'll 3406 01:57:40,426 --> 01:57:43,426 say this simply put, District 3407 01:57:44,763 --> 01:57:45,231 four is a safe community. 3408 01:57:45,231 --> 01:57:45,997 So thank you. 3409 01:57:45,997 --> 01:57:50,169 Thank you for all the work that 3410 01:57:50,169 --> 01:57:54,405 you do and you know as we look 3411 01:57:54,405 --> 01:57:55,174 at trends and I just want you 3412 01:57:55,174 --> 01:57:58,778 to know that I am always here 3413 01:57:58,778 --> 01:57:59,478 to to step up and to help out 3414 01:57:59,478 --> 01:58:00,245 in any way I can. 3415 01:58:00,245 --> 01:58:03,549 You know about that I work 3416 01:58:03,549 --> 01:58:04,316 directly with my community and 3417 01:58:04,316 --> 01:58:07,916 folks and I have absolutely no 3418 01:58:08,387 --> 01:58:08,921 problem doing that and having 3419 01:58:08,921 --> 01:58:09,588 those conversations. 3420 01:58:09,588 --> 01:58:10,289 So with that again, Pastor 3421 01:58:10,289 --> 01:58:13,492 Sandoval, thank you to you and 3422 01:58:13,492 --> 01:58:17,920 your team for coming out today. 3423 01:58:19,310 --> 01:58:19,899 I don't see anomalies Big Rudy 3424 01:58:19,899 --> 01:58:20,366 But you know you know you kind 3425 01:58:20,366 --> 01:58:21,233 of know a deal. 3426 01:58:21,233 --> 01:58:25,938 You know you said you got a big 3427 01:58:25,938 --> 01:58:26,839 sheet, bro, you know, But but 3428 01:58:26,839 --> 01:58:30,610 you know, I just want to say 3429 01:58:30,610 --> 01:58:31,310 hey, congratulations, Big Rudy 3430 01:58:31,310 --> 01:58:31,944 and just thank you for 3431 01:58:31,944 --> 01:58:32,545 everything that you do and 3432 01:58:32,545 --> 01:58:35,147 you've come a long way. 3433 01:58:35,147 --> 01:58:35,915 Deal. 3434 01:58:35,915 --> 01:58:36,215 And you know, keep up the good 3435 01:58:36,215 --> 01:58:38,215 work. 3436 01:58:40,286 --> 01:58:40,685 So thank you. 3437 01:58:40,685 --> 01:58:41,387 All right. 3438 01:58:41,387 --> 01:58:43,787 Thank you, council PRESIDENT. 3439 01:58:44,657 --> 01:58:45,491 That concludes my comments. 3440 01:58:45,491 --> 01:58:49,910 >> You need more input from Big 3441 01:58:49,761 --> 01:58:50,161 Ruby and their All right. 3442 01:58:50,161 --> 01:58:50,829 Thank you. 3443 01:58:50,829 --> 01:58:51,463 Councilmember Foster will go 3444 01:58:51,463 --> 01:58:53,863 next to Councilmember Ella 3445 01:58:54,733 --> 01:58:55,434 Rivera Thank you council 3446 01:58:55,434 --> 01:58:58,434 PRESIDENT I don't know Ryan 3447 01:58:59,105 --> 01:59:02,705 Heitman that video if you want 3448 01:59:03,543 --> 01:59:04,143 to come through any time I just 3449 01:59:04,143 --> 01:59:04,843 to thank you for the for 3450 01:59:04,843 --> 01:59:06,780 the you know the presentation 3451 01:59:06,780 --> 01:59:06,879 obviously But but more 3452 01:59:06,879 --> 01:59:09,879 importantly for the work behind 3453 01:59:12,510 --> 01:59:14,530 it to kind of piggyback on on 3454 01:59:14,530 --> 01:59:16,530 COUNCILMAN Foster's comments, 3455 01:59:19,926 --> 01:59:20,526 you know obviously it's 3456 01:59:20,526 --> 01:59:21,194 important to to maintain 3457 01:59:21,194 --> 01:59:23,594 accountability and and share 3458 01:59:24,430 --> 01:59:25,300 when we feel like the mark 3459 01:59:25,300 --> 01:59:25,732 isn't being met but also 3460 01:59:25,732 --> 01:59:28,732 equally important to make sure 3461 01:59:29,202 --> 01:59:29,902 we're acknowledging when a good 3462 01:59:29,902 --> 01:59:30,503 work is done and the community 3463 01:59:30,503 --> 01:59:33,503 is heading in the right 3464 01:59:34,273 --> 01:59:34,941 direction in terms of safety 3465 01:59:34,941 --> 01:59:37,941 And I think it's especially 3466 01:59:38,578 --> 01:59:39,145 important that we we 3467 01:59:39,145 --> 01:59:41,145 acknowledge that when 3468 01:59:43,783 --> 01:59:44,550 the progress is being made to 3469 01:59:44,550 --> 01:59:45,218 rein in the overtime hours that 3470 01:59:45,218 --> 01:59:48,121 you've done I said it before 3471 01:59:48,121 --> 01:59:48,855 and I'll say it again 3472 01:59:48,855 --> 01:59:49,489 the progress that's that's been 3473 01:59:49,489 --> 01:59:52,489 made we were told was 3474 01:59:53,359 --> 01:59:54,930 impossible And not only have 3475 01:59:54,930 --> 01:59:54,726 you proven that that's possible 3476 01:59:54,726 --> 01:59:57,726 but we've done it without 3477 01:59:58,431 --> 01:59:59,980 sacrificing the safety of San 3478 01:59:59,980 --> 01:59:59,765 Diego residents And I think 3479 01:59:59,765 --> 02:00:02,165 that's very, very important. 3480 02:00:03,303 --> 02:00:04,700 Note and speaks to the work 3481 02:00:04,700 --> 02:00:07,700 that you're doing in your 3482 02:00:07,740 --> 02:00:08,407 position. 3483 02:00:08,407 --> 02:00:11,407 So thank you for that. 3484 02:00:12,644 --> 02:00:13,379 And to to that point that's a 3485 02:00:13,379 --> 02:00:13,679 thank you to the community as 3486 02:00:13,679 --> 02:00:15,679 well. 3487 02:00:17,517 --> 02:00:18,318 Obviously the police department 3488 02:00:18,318 --> 02:00:19,180 plays a very important role in 3489 02:00:19,180 --> 02:00:19,318 preventing crime and stopping 3490 02:00:19,318 --> 02:00:21,318 crime. 3491 02:00:22,589 --> 02:00:23,289 But a community that isn't 3492 02:00:23,289 --> 02:00:24,570 working well together is not a 3493 02:00:24,570 --> 02:00:27,560 safe community And I know you 3494 02:00:27,560 --> 02:00:28,428 believe that. 3495 02:00:28,428 --> 02:00:29,229 I know we've had a lot of 3496 02:00:29,229 --> 02:00:32,229 conversations about that And so 3497 02:00:32,632 --> 02:00:33,233 you know, without diminishing 3498 02:00:33,233 --> 02:00:33,933 in any way the role that 3499 02:00:33,933 --> 02:00:34,668 the police department plays, i 3500 02:00:34,668 --> 02:00:36,802 think it's incredibly important 3501 02:00:36,802 --> 02:00:37,537 to acknowledge the community as 3502 02:00:37,537 --> 02:00:41,137 well the neighbors who look out 3503 02:00:41,374 --> 02:00:42,242 for one another, the folks who 3504 02:00:42,242 --> 02:00:45,242 have have turned their lives 3505 02:00:46,779 --> 02:00:47,446 into committing to creating 3506 02:00:47,446 --> 02:00:48,114 safety and preventing folks 3507 02:00:48,114 --> 02:00:51,114 from heading down the wrong 3508 02:00:51,651 --> 02:00:52,319 track even though many times 3509 02:00:52,319 --> 02:00:55,319 those roles are not glorious 3510 02:00:56,220 --> 02:00:56,823 and certainly not well paid. 3511 02:00:56,823 --> 02:00:57,757 So it's a community wide effort 3512 02:00:57,757 --> 02:01:00,994 and I think all of San Diego 3513 02:01:00,994 --> 02:01:01,494 deserves appreciation and 3514 02:01:01,494 --> 02:01:03,494 applause for that. 3515 02:01:06,990 --> 02:01:06,765 So thank you for believing that 3516 02:01:06,765 --> 02:01:07,467 that is an important part of 3517 02:01:07,467 --> 02:01:11,670 the equation to create a safe 3518 02:01:11,338 --> 02:01:12,380 San Diego And I'm glad to see 3519 02:01:12,380 --> 02:01:15,380 that this is the direction 3520 02:01:17,430 --> 02:01:17,844 we're headed. 3521 02:01:17,844 --> 02:01:18,512 My colleagues would ask great 3522 02:01:18,512 --> 02:01:18,812 questions so I won't belabor 3523 02:01:18,812 --> 02:01:19,478 those. 3524 02:01:19,478 --> 02:01:19,779 I just want to say thank you 3525 02:01:19,779 --> 02:01:21,779 again. 3526 02:01:21,781 --> 02:01:22,820 Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All 3527 02:01:22,820 --> 02:01:22,782 right. 3528 02:01:22,782 --> 02:01:23,517 Thank you Council member Ella 3529 02:01:23,517 --> 02:01:25,385 Rivera We'll go next to council 3530 02:01:25,385 --> 02:01:26,850 member Whitburn Thank you. 3531 02:01:26,850 --> 02:01:26,719 Council PRESIDENT Thank you 3532 02:01:26,719 --> 02:01:29,719 very much for this update. 3533 02:01:29,823 --> 02:01:30,523 I'm pleased to see that one of 3534 02:01:30,523 --> 02:01:31,257 the biggest decreases in crime 3535 02:01:31,257 --> 02:01:34,427 is right here in District three 3536 02:01:34,427 --> 02:01:35,610 with a double digit drop. 3537 02:01:35,610 --> 02:01:35,695 There's always more police 3538 02:01:35,695 --> 02:01:38,950 volume downtown than other 3539 02:01:39,199 --> 02:01:39,899 areas of the city with so much 3540 02:01:39,899 --> 02:01:40,199 going on and people coming and 3541 02:01:40,199 --> 02:01:41,670 going. 3542 02:01:41,670 --> 02:01:43,269 But it is good to see those 3543 02:01:43,269 --> 02:01:43,637 numbers moving in the right 3544 02:01:43,637 --> 02:01:44,337 direction. 3545 02:01:44,337 --> 02:01:45,138 It's also be good to see more 3546 02:01:45,138 --> 02:01:48,138 and more people moving into 3547 02:01:48,175 --> 02:01:48,842 the area which is something 3548 02:01:48,842 --> 02:01:51,842 that is really indicative of 3549 02:01:52,813 --> 02:01:53,413 the degree to people like 3550 02:01:53,413 --> 02:01:54,140 living downtown and in 3551 02:01:54,140 --> 02:01:56,414 the District three area. 3552 02:01:58,618 --> 02:01:59,319 I appreciate you including an 3553 02:01:59,319 --> 02:02:00,120 update on hate crimes and I 3554 02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,120 want to thank the department 3555 02:02:03,156 --> 02:02:03,470 for how seriously you take 3556 02:02:03,470 --> 02:02:05,470 them. 3557 02:02:07,394 --> 02:02:08,950 Captain Dobbs, Western Division 3558 02:02:08,950 --> 02:02:08,795 is very good about letting me 3559 02:02:08,795 --> 02:02:11,195 know about such incidents 3560 02:02:12,833 --> 02:02:13,500 increasing patrols when they 3561 02:02:13,500 --> 02:02:14,167 occur so that the community 3562 02:02:14,167 --> 02:02:17,167 sees that the department is 3563 02:02:17,471 --> 02:02:18,138 there to protect them. 3564 02:02:18,138 --> 02:02:18,639 And keeping me posted on 3565 02:02:18,639 --> 02:02:20,639 the progress of 3566 02:02:22,420 --> 02:02:22,676 the investigations which is why 3567 02:02:22,676 --> 02:02:25,676 I know that our technology 3568 02:02:26,879 --> 02:02:27,748 helps to solve these crimes. 3569 02:02:27,748 --> 02:02:28,348 I also want to thank Central 3570 02:02:28,348 --> 02:02:28,982 Division and Beach City 3571 02:02:28,982 --> 02:02:31,382 Division which also serve 3572 02:02:31,684 --> 02:02:32,319 District three, 3573 02:02:32,319 --> 02:02:33,190 the Neighborhood Policing 3574 02:02:33,190 --> 02:02:36,190 Division which is very active 3575 02:02:36,690 --> 02:02:37,290 in my district. 3576 02:02:37,290 --> 02:02:37,991 The officers who police 3577 02:02:37,991 --> 02:02:40,991 the Gaslamp, the officers here 3578 02:02:42,196 --> 02:02:42,729 at City Hall who keep all of us 3579 02:02:42,729 --> 02:02:43,397 safe and everyone at 3580 02:02:43,397 --> 02:02:46,397 the department who works to 3581 02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:47,868 keep my constituents safe. 3582 02:02:47,868 --> 02:02:48,535 So thank you and thank you 3583 02:02:48,535 --> 02:02:48,902 Council PRESIDENT All right. 3584 02:02:48,902 --> 02:02:50,902 Thank you. 3585 02:02:52,139 --> 02:02:52,706 Council Woodburn I think not 3586 02:02:52,706 --> 02:02:53,440 seeing anybody else in 3587 02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:57,100 the lights I gave away a lot of 3588 02:02:57,100 --> 02:02:57,678 my time so I'll just close by 3589 02:02:57,678 --> 02:03:00,780 thanking my colleagues for 3590 02:03:02,316 --> 02:03:02,616 questions and comments and echo 3591 02:03:02,616 --> 02:03:03,317 them. 3592 02:03:03,317 --> 02:03:06,887 Thank you for the very good 3593 02:03:06,887 --> 02:03:07,487 work you know we rely a lot on 3594 02:03:07,487 --> 02:03:09,887 numbers and metrics and 3595 02:03:10,991 --> 02:03:11,759 statistics to provide evidence 3596 02:03:11,759 --> 02:03:12,359 for the good work that we know 3597 02:03:12,359 --> 02:03:12,959 you're doing every day. 3598 02:03:12,959 --> 02:03:15,959 You and the officers in 3599 02:03:16,630 --> 02:03:16,762 the rank and file and we try to 3600 02:03:16,762 --> 02:03:19,762 provide the resources that you 3601 02:03:20,934 --> 02:03:21,468 need to do that work And I'm 3602 02:03:21,468 --> 02:03:22,102 very proud of that. 3603 02:03:22,102 --> 02:03:25,102 Mayor and the council for 3604 02:03:25,306 --> 02:03:25,639 supporting you in that regards 3605 02:03:25,639 --> 02:03:26,507 . 3606 02:03:26,507 --> 02:03:29,977 As new things come up of new 3607 02:03:29,977 --> 02:03:30,711 challenges present themselves, 3608 02:03:30,711 --> 02:03:31,644 we look forward to hearing from 3609 02:03:31,644 --> 02:03:35,517 you about what you need and not 3610 02:03:35,517 --> 02:03:36,217 giving it to you in this 3611 02:03:36,217 --> 02:03:38,217 difficult budget conversation. 3612 02:03:39,987 --> 02:03:43,587 So that's just a joke folks. 3613 02:03:44,425 --> 02:03:45,250 So I also look forward to 3614 02:03:45,250 --> 02:03:45,626 the state of California 3615 02:03:45,626 --> 02:03:48,260 figuring out sb 580 and 3616 02:03:49,296 --> 02:03:51,696 actually giving us guidelines 3617 02:03:53,267 --> 02:03:53,967 that actually amplifies sb 54 3618 02:03:53,967 --> 02:03:54,802 and look forward to your work 3619 02:03:54,802 --> 02:03:57,771 in how you implement that going 3620 02:03:57,771 --> 02:03:58,405 forward. 3621 02:03:58,405 --> 02:03:58,906 So as that becomes an 3622 02:03:58,906 --> 02:03:59,640 increasing part of 3623 02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,640 the distraction that you all 3624 02:04:03,177 --> 02:04:03,711 face is what the federal 3625 02:04:03,711 --> 02:04:04,378 government is doing. 3626 02:04:04,378 --> 02:04:07,415 It's the sandbox we live in. 3627 02:04:07,415 --> 02:04:08,820 We just have to navigate that 3628 02:04:08,820 --> 02:04:08,749 And I know that you are 3629 02:04:08,749 --> 02:04:09,283 thinking about that and take 3630 02:04:09,283 --> 02:04:11,283 that very seriously. 3631 02:04:12,486 --> 02:04:12,987 So again thank. 3632 02:04:12,987 --> 02:04:13,587 Thank you Chief. 3633 02:04:13,587 --> 02:04:16,587 Thank you to the staff. 3634 02:04:17,424 --> 02:04:18,159 Thank you to the rank and file 3635 02:04:18,159 --> 02:04:18,659 and the good work they do every 3636 02:04:18,659 --> 02:04:21,590 day on our behalf. 3637 02:04:21,528 --> 02:04:22,229 All right. 3638 02:04:22,229 --> 02:04:23,640 That was an information item. 3639 02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:26,534 No motion was required so we 3640 02:04:26,534 --> 02:04:27,201 will move along. 3641 02:04:27,201 --> 02:04:27,601 Clerk please introduce item. 3642 02:04:27,601 --> 02:04:29,601 Scuse me. 3643 02:04:31,171 --> 02:04:31,906 202 Item 2a2 is the appeal of 3644 02:04:31,906 --> 02:04:33,906 the environmental determination 3645 02:04:34,842 --> 02:04:35,543 for 710 Garnet Avenue 3646 02:04:35,543 --> 02:04:37,943 straighter Your project number 3647 02:04:38,546 --> 02:04:39,513 p rj Dash 1126 697. 3648 02:04:39,513 --> 02:04:43,113 This item is not subject to 3649 02:04:43,751 --> 02:04:44,685 the mayor's veto. 3650 02:04:44,685 --> 02:04:45,386 If you'd like to speak to this 3651 02:04:45,386 --> 02:04:46,120 item please be sure to submit 3652 02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:48,222 your speaker slip to the front 3653 02:04:48,222 --> 02:04:48,923 of the room in the clear box. 3654 02:04:48,923 --> 02:04:49,557 And if you are participating 3655 02:04:49,557 --> 02:04:52,557 remotely now's the time to 3656 02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:53,828 raise your hand by pressing 3657 02:04:53,828 --> 02:04:54,195 Star nine or the raise your 3658 02:04:54,195 --> 02:04:54,862 hand icon. 3659 02:04:54,862 --> 02:04:57,262 Thank you Council PRESIDENT. 3660 02:04:58,132 --> 02:04:58,733 Thank you City Clerk I wanted 3661 02:04:58,733 --> 02:05:01,733 to make mention of staff 3662 02:05:01,736 --> 02:05:02,537 proceeds up here especially for 3663 02:05:02,537 --> 02:05:03,203 those of you that are either in 3664 02:05:03,203 --> 02:05:06,203 chambers for the very first 3665 02:05:07,275 --> 02:05:07,808 time or watching remotely for 3666 02:05:07,808 --> 02:05:08,643 the very first time. 3667 02:05:08,643 --> 02:05:11,579 There's been a lot of talk in 3668 02:05:11,579 --> 02:05:12,213 the media about public 3669 02:05:12,213 --> 02:05:14,213 participation, about some 3670 02:05:16,500 --> 02:05:16,751 amendments to the Brown Act 3671 02:05:16,751 --> 02:05:17,618 that everybody is working very 3672 02:05:17,618 --> 02:05:20,854 hard to update that will not 3673 02:05:20,854 --> 02:05:21,789 take effect until JULY 1st. 3674 02:05:21,789 --> 02:05:25,125 We call this a quasi judicial 3675 02:05:25,125 --> 02:05:25,793 hearing and we have a protocol 3676 02:05:25,793 --> 02:05:29,393 that we have done for many, 3677 02:05:29,497 --> 02:05:30,363 many years about these hearings 3678 02:05:30,363 --> 02:05:33,963 and how this will proceed is 3679 02:05:35,690 --> 02:05:38,690 that operations will make their 3680 02:05:40,740 --> 02:05:40,875 presentation will have a 3681 02:05:40,875 --> 02:05:43,875 statement by the city attorney, 3682 02:05:44,912 --> 02:05:45,679 the appellant will go next. 3683 02:05:45,679 --> 02:05:49,279 They'll have up to ten minutes 3684 02:05:50,118 --> 02:05:50,818 for their presentation and we 3685 02:05:50,818 --> 02:05:51,552 will then invite the applicant 3686 02:05:51,552 --> 02:05:55,422 to come up and they will have 3687 02:05:55,422 --> 02:05:56,124 an opportunity to be up to ten 3688 02:05:56,124 --> 02:05:59,124 minutes to make a presentation 3689 02:05:59,694 --> 02:06:00,428 and then we will turn it over 3690 02:06:00,428 --> 02:06:04,280 to the rest of the public 3691 02:06:04,632 --> 02:06:05,499 comment going forward. 3692 02:06:05,499 --> 02:06:06,134 So with that staff and I see 3693 02:06:06,134 --> 02:06:08,534 your seat there, introduce 3694 02:06:09,604 --> 02:06:10,305 yourselves for the record and 3695 02:06:10,305 --> 02:06:10,604 let us know how much time you 3696 02:06:10,604 --> 02:06:11,390 need. 3697 02:06:11,390 --> 02:06:13,390 >> Thank you. 3698 02:06:13,730 --> 02:06:16,730 I'll need about seven minutes. 3699 02:06:18,213 --> 02:06:18,679 >> All right. 3700 02:06:18,679 --> 02:06:19,313 Good afternoon. 3701 02:06:19,313 --> 02:06:19,881 Council PRESIDENT, council 3702 02:06:19,881 --> 02:06:20,281 members and members of 3703 02:06:20,281 --> 02:06:22,281 the public. 3704 02:06:22,617 --> 02:06:23,351 I am Travis Cleveland 3705 02:06:23,351 --> 02:06:23,985 Development Project manager for 3706 02:06:23,985 --> 02:06:26,385 the 710 Garnett Street Re 3707 02:06:27,956 --> 02:06:28,656 Environmental Appeal. 3708 02:06:28,656 --> 02:06:29,357 With me today is Courtney 3709 02:06:29,357 --> 02:06:31,757 Hallock with the Environmental 3710 02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:33,327 Analysis Section at Development 3711 02:06:33,327 --> 02:06:33,995 Services. 3712 02:06:33,995 --> 02:06:35,163 Before I proceed I'd like to 3713 02:06:35,163 --> 02:06:37,563 read a memorandum into 3714 02:06:40,334 --> 02:06:41,350 the record. 3715 02:06:41,350 --> 02:06:41,736 I sent this earlier today. 3716 02:06:41,736 --> 02:06:44,136 The subject project initially 3717 02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:48,840 requested approval of a 60 foot 3718 02:06:49,878 --> 02:06:50,345 by 12 foot eight inch st3 for a 3719 02:06:50,345 --> 02:06:52,345 total of 760ft. 3720 02:06:54,248 --> 02:06:54,949 Environmental analysis was 3721 02:06:54,949 --> 02:06:55,683 performed on this measurement 3722 02:06:55,683 --> 02:06:56,170 which is also used in the staff 3723 02:06:56,170 --> 02:06:58,170 report. 3724 02:06:59,621 --> 02:07:00,388 However, the St3 area was 3725 02:07:00,388 --> 02:07:03,388 actually reduced in the last 3726 02:07:03,892 --> 02:07:04,392 submittal to 43ft by 12ft for a 3727 02:07:04,392 --> 02:07:06,392 total of 516ft. 3728 02:07:08,963 --> 02:07:09,664 This is accurately reflected in 3729 02:07:09,664 --> 02:07:13,264 the latest copy of the project 3730 02:07:13,468 --> 02:07:14,168 plans submitted to Development 3731 02:07:14,168 --> 02:07:14,636 Services which I did attach to 3732 02:07:14,636 --> 02:07:16,636 that memorandum. 3733 02:07:17,204 --> 02:07:17,906 This does not alter 3734 02:07:17,906 --> 02:07:20,306 the conclusion of staff's 3735 02:07:22,510 --> 02:07:24,510 environmental determination. 3736 02:07:28,490 --> 02:07:28,717 The item before you is an 3737 02:07:28,717 --> 02:07:29,250 appeal of the environmental 3738 02:07:29,250 --> 02:07:31,250 determination for an 3739 02:07:32,888 --> 02:07:34,888 approximately 516 square foot 3740 02:07:37,324 --> 02:07:38,260 street or outdoor seating area 3741 02:07:38,260 --> 02:07:38,760 at an existing restaurant. 3742 02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:40,760 The environmental determination 3743 02:07:42,264 --> 02:07:45,264 was made OCTOBER 14th, 2025 and 3744 02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:48,400 was appealed on OCTOBER 27th 3745 02:07:50,204 --> 02:07:52,204 2025. 3746 02:07:54,750 --> 02:07:54,843 >> On JULY 29th 2020 the 710 3747 02:07:54,843 --> 02:07:57,843 Beach Club was issued a 3748 02:07:58,346 --> 02:07:58,947 temporary business operations 3749 02:07:58,947 --> 02:08:01,347 permit under the city's 3750 02:08:03,180 --> 02:08:03,684 emergency outdoor operations 3751 02:08:03,684 --> 02:08:04,486 regulations allowing them to 3752 02:08:04,486 --> 02:08:08,860 build and operate a street tree 3753 02:08:08,223 --> 02:08:08,857 platform in the parking spaces 3754 02:08:08,857 --> 02:08:11,857 in front of the business. 3755 02:08:12,560 --> 02:08:13,161 In response to the coronavirus 3756 02:08:13,161 --> 02:08:15,161 emergency of 2020, these 3757 02:08:17,866 --> 02:08:18,533 regulations were refined as 3758 02:08:18,533 --> 02:08:19,201 part of the Spaces as Places 3759 02:08:19,201 --> 02:08:22,201 program approved by the City 3760 02:08:22,637 --> 02:08:23,338 Council in NOVEMBER 2021 3761 02:08:23,338 --> 02:08:26,338 effective at this location in 3762 02:08:27,376 --> 02:08:28,760 the coastal zone. 3763 02:08:28,760 --> 02:08:28,744 On AUGUST 10th 2023 once 3764 02:08:28,744 --> 02:08:31,744 the new regulations were in 3765 02:08:32,915 --> 02:08:33,447 effect building in land use 3766 02:08:33,447 --> 02:08:34,182 enforcement or blue. 3767 02:08:34,182 --> 02:08:37,182 Notified the business that they 3768 02:08:37,719 --> 02:08:38,420 needed to remove the platform 3769 02:08:38,420 --> 02:08:41,420 or either remove the platform 3770 02:08:42,723 --> 02:08:43,458 or obtain the required permits 3771 02:08:43,458 --> 02:08:44,193 under the Spaces Places program 3772 02:08:44,193 --> 02:08:46,593 including a coastal development 3773 02:08:48,630 --> 02:08:48,597 permit and a right of public 3774 02:08:48,597 --> 02:08:50,997 right of way permit. 3775 02:08:52,901 --> 02:08:55,301 Blue began actively enforcing 3776 02:08:55,770 --> 02:08:56,472 the unpermitted St3 in OCTOBER 3777 02:08:56,472 --> 02:08:57,172 2024 due to delays in 3778 02:08:57,172 --> 02:08:59,572 submitting the current Coastal 3779 02:09:00,175 --> 02:09:00,876 Development Permit application 3780 02:09:00,876 --> 02:09:03,876 which was deemed complete in 3781 02:09:05,314 --> 02:09:05,614 DECEMBER of 2024 and SEPTEMBER 3782 02:09:05,614 --> 02:09:06,381 2025. 3783 02:09:06,381 --> 02:09:09,381 The business agreed to shorten 3784 02:09:10,552 --> 02:09:11,219 the platform pay exclusive use 3785 02:09:11,219 --> 02:09:11,854 fees for the public right of 3786 02:09:11,854 --> 02:09:14,854 way, open up the disabled 3787 02:09:15,224 --> 02:09:15,891 parking spaces that they had 3788 02:09:15,891 --> 02:09:18,291 previously blocked and keep 3789 02:09:19,695 --> 02:09:20,429 the platform closed until 3790 02:09:20,429 --> 02:09:23,429 proper permits could be issued. 3791 02:09:24,599 --> 02:09:25,330 The platform remains existing 3792 02:09:25,330 --> 02:09:25,767 but closed. 3793 02:09:25,767 --> 02:09:26,402 This is allowed the platform to 3794 02:09:26,402 --> 02:09:27,636 remain in the right of way 3795 02:09:27,636 --> 02:09:30,360 while the permit applications 3796 02:09:32,807 --> 02:09:35,207 were in the process. 3797 02:09:36,512 --> 02:09:37,246 >> On OCTOBER 14th, 2025 city 3798 02:09:37,246 --> 02:09:37,947 staff determined the project to 3799 02:09:37,947 --> 02:09:40,947 be exempt from the California 3800 02:09:41,850 --> 02:09:42,551 Environmental Quality Act or 3801 02:09:42,551 --> 02:09:46,151 Sequa and any notice of Right 3802 02:09:46,422 --> 02:09:47,122 to Appeal or Nora was prepared 3803 02:09:47,122 --> 02:09:47,656 and posted in accordance with 3804 02:09:47,656 --> 02:09:49,656 the municipal code. 3805 02:09:51,628 --> 02:09:52,228 The Nora was also distributed 3806 02:09:52,228 --> 02:09:52,962 to the Council district 3807 02:09:52,962 --> 02:09:55,362 recognized community groups and 3808 02:09:56,298 --> 02:09:56,999 any other applicable interested 3809 02:09:56,999 --> 02:09:57,433 parties for a ten working day 3810 02:09:57,433 --> 02:09:59,433 appeal period. 3811 02:10:01,569 --> 02:10:01,871 As required by the Municipal 3812 02:10:01,871 --> 02:10:03,706 Code. 3813 02:10:03,706 --> 02:10:06,706 That period ended on OCTOBER 3814 02:10:07,943 --> 02:10:09,943 28th, 2025. 3815 02:10:13,115 --> 02:10:13,783 The project The project was 3816 02:10:13,783 --> 02:10:14,517 reviewed in accordance with 3817 02:10:14,517 --> 02:10:17,517 the sica Statute and guidelines 3818 02:10:17,987 --> 02:10:18,621 to determine if it would result 3819 02:10:18,621 --> 02:10:19,155 in environmental impacts. 3820 02:10:19,155 --> 02:10:21,155 Staff concluded that 3821 02:10:22,758 --> 02:10:23,259 the project was categorically 3822 02:10:23,259 --> 02:10:24,125 exempt from Sequa. 3823 02:10:24,125 --> 02:10:26,525 Pursuant to section 1533 to 3824 02:10:27,630 --> 02:10:27,830 infill development projects, 3825 02:10:27,830 --> 02:10:30,230 Class 32 consists of projects 3826 02:10:32,101 --> 02:10:32,501 characterized as infill 3827 02:10:32,501 --> 02:10:33,168 development. 3828 02:10:33,168 --> 02:10:35,568 Meeting the requirements of 3829 02:10:36,405 --> 02:10:37,106 this section to qualify for 3830 02:10:37,106 --> 02:10:37,707 the Infill Development project 3831 02:10:37,707 --> 02:10:39,707 a categorical exemption 3832 02:10:41,477 --> 02:10:41,944 the project must meet all five 3833 02:10:41,944 --> 02:10:43,944 listed criteria. 3834 02:10:46,882 --> 02:10:47,582 >> The St3 is an extension to a 3835 02:10:47,582 --> 02:10:48,250 restaurant which is consistent 3836 02:10:48,250 --> 02:10:50,650 with the Visitor Commercial 3837 02:10:53,422 --> 02:10:55,822 Plan designation and zone. 3838 02:10:57,260 --> 02:10:57,960 The project site is less than 3839 02:10:57,960 --> 02:11:01,560 five five acres and is located 3840 02:11:01,564 --> 02:11:01,864 in an urban and developed area 3841 02:11:01,864 --> 02:11:03,864 . 3842 02:11:07,136 --> 02:11:07,803 Because the site is entirely 3843 02:11:07,803 --> 02:11:10,803 developed with urban uses it 3844 02:11:11,606 --> 02:11:12,274 has no value for it. 3845 02:11:12,274 --> 02:11:12,975 No value as habitat for 3846 02:11:12,975 --> 02:11:15,375 endangered rare or threatened 3847 02:11:16,279 --> 02:11:17,146 species. 3848 02:11:17,146 --> 02:11:20,746 The project would not result in 3849 02:11:21,417 --> 02:11:22,118 any significant effects related 3850 02:11:22,118 --> 02:11:22,618 to traffic noise, air quality 3851 02:11:22,618 --> 02:11:24,618 or water quality. 3852 02:11:26,322 --> 02:11:26,989 The project meets the screening 3853 02:11:26,989 --> 02:11:27,689 criteria for a small project 3854 02:11:27,689 --> 02:11:30,890 per the city's transportation 3855 02:11:31,260 --> 02:11:31,928 study manual and therefore 3856 02:11:31,928 --> 02:11:32,428 would be presumed to be less 3857 02:11:32,428 --> 02:11:34,428 than significant. 3858 02:11:35,364 --> 02:11:36,320 The project with You're 3859 02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:36,699 required to comply with all 3860 02:11:36,699 --> 02:11:39,990 applicable local, state and 3861 02:11:41,300 --> 02:11:41,637 federal regulations ensuring 3862 02:11:41,637 --> 02:11:42,372 that impacts to noise air 3863 02:11:42,372 --> 02:11:44,840 quality and water quality would 3864 02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:47,240 be lessened Sniffing out 3865 02:11:50,213 --> 02:11:51,140 the proposed project involves 3866 02:11:51,140 --> 02:11:54,140 the development of a new 516 3867 02:11:55,150 --> 02:11:55,852 square foot st3 as an extension 3868 02:11:55,852 --> 02:11:56,219 of an existing commercial 3869 02:11:56,219 --> 02:11:56,852 building. 3870 02:11:56,852 --> 02:12:00,452 The st3 would result in no 3871 02:12:00,523 --> 02:12:01,224 change in need for public 3872 02:12:01,224 --> 02:12:01,958 services and the project site 3873 02:12:01,958 --> 02:12:04,560 would continue to be adequately 3874 02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:06,560 served. 3875 02:12:13,469 --> 02:12:14,103 Pursuant to dmca section 3876 02:12:14,103 --> 02:12:16,103 112.0520 and Environmental 3877 02:12:17,390 --> 02:12:17,707 Debris Determination Free 3878 02:12:17,707 --> 02:12:18,374 process three project MAY be 3879 02:12:18,374 --> 02:12:19,800 appealed to the City Council 3880 02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:21,408 subject to the underlying 3881 02:12:22,612 --> 02:12:23,346 requirements which match 3882 02:12:23,346 --> 02:12:23,646 the boxes checked on the appeal 3883 02:12:23,646 --> 02:12:25,646 form. 3884 02:12:27,283 --> 02:12:27,983 Filed appeals typically attach 3885 02:12:27,983 --> 02:12:28,551 supporting information and or 3886 02:12:28,551 --> 02:12:30,551 supporting documents. 3887 02:12:31,488 --> 02:12:32,254 However, as filed the appeal 3888 02:12:32,254 --> 02:12:32,889 checked only the boxes on 3889 02:12:32,889 --> 02:12:33,556 the form and the appellant 3890 02:12:33,556 --> 02:12:35,956 provided no further support. 3891 02:12:36,959 --> 02:12:37,627 The appeal provided no 3892 02:12:37,627 --> 02:12:39,627 explanation documentation or 3893 02:12:41,164 --> 02:12:41,865 substantial evidence to support 3894 02:12:41,865 --> 02:12:42,298 the claim that a factual error 3895 02:12:42,298 --> 02:12:43,320 has occurred. 3896 02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:46,602 The appeal does not provide any 3897 02:12:46,602 --> 02:12:47,169 new information or substantial 3898 02:12:47,169 --> 02:12:47,837 evidence to support a 3899 02:12:47,837 --> 02:12:49,837 reasonable possibility that 3900 02:12:51,407 --> 02:12:51,974 the project will have 3901 02:12:51,974 --> 02:12:52,441 significant effect on 3902 02:12:52,441 --> 02:12:53,176 the environment. 3903 02:12:53,176 --> 02:12:56,120 The appeal does not demonstrate 3904 02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:56,346 a conflict with any other 3905 02:12:56,346 --> 02:12:57,790 matters. 3906 02:12:57,790 --> 02:12:57,614 The appeal does not provide any 3907 02:12:57,614 --> 02:12:59,614 substantial evidence 3908 02:13:01,551 --> 02:13:02,152 demonstrating that the findings 3909 02:13:02,152 --> 02:13:02,852 for the application of 3910 02:13:02,852 --> 02:13:05,688 the infill exemption have not 3911 02:13:05,688 --> 02:13:06,489 been met. 3912 02:13:06,489 --> 02:13:09,489 If the environmental appeal is 3913 02:13:10,926 --> 02:13:11,594 resolved the project must 3914 02:13:11,594 --> 02:13:12,295 obtain a coastal development 3915 02:13:12,295 --> 02:13:14,695 permit Future Hearing officer 3916 02:13:15,699 --> 02:13:16,299 decision appealable to 3917 02:13:16,299 --> 02:13:16,999 the Planning Commission. 3918 02:13:16,999 --> 02:13:17,533 The project is in the Coastal 3919 02:13:17,533 --> 02:13:19,533 Commission's Appeal 3920 02:13:20,770 --> 02:13:21,170 jurisdiction so the city's I'm 3921 02:13:21,170 --> 02:13:21,905 almost done. 3922 02:13:21,905 --> 02:13:25,241 So the city's final decision is 3923 02:13:25,241 --> 02:13:25,642 also appealable to the Coastal 3924 02:13:25,642 --> 02:13:26,343 Commission. 3925 02:13:26,343 --> 02:13:27,900 It must obtain a public right 3926 02:13:27,900 --> 02:13:30,146 of way permit if the coastal 3927 02:13:30,146 --> 02:13:30,714 development permit is issued 3928 02:13:30,714 --> 02:13:31,414 and it must remain in 3929 02:13:31,414 --> 02:13:33,814 compliance with all permit 3930 02:13:34,150 --> 02:13:34,784 conditions. 3931 02:13:34,784 --> 02:13:35,485 The administrative record 3932 02:13:35,485 --> 02:13:36,152 demonstrates that the project 3933 02:13:36,152 --> 02:13:38,721 would not have a significant 3934 02:13:38,721 --> 02:13:39,389 impact on the environment. 3935 02:13:39,389 --> 02:13:40,890 No evidence or documentation 3936 02:13:40,890 --> 02:13:43,593 was provided related to any of 3937 02:13:43,593 --> 02:13:44,194 the appeal grounds asserted as 3938 02:13:44,194 --> 02:13:44,927 to factual error new 3939 02:13:44,927 --> 02:13:45,528 information conflict with other 3940 02:13:45,528 --> 02:13:47,928 matters or findings not 3941 02:13:48,865 --> 02:13:49,566 supported. 3942 02:13:49,566 --> 02:13:50,133 Staff therefore recommend that 3943 02:13:50,133 --> 02:13:50,700 the City Council deny 3944 02:13:50,700 --> 02:13:53,100 the appeal and approve 3945 02:13:53,236 --> 02:13:53,703 the environment determination. 3946 02:13:53,703 --> 02:13:54,700 Thank you. 3947 02:13:54,700 --> 02:13:54,938 All right. 3948 02:13:54,938 --> 02:13:58,241 Thank you for the work and for 3949 02:13:58,241 --> 02:13:59,209 your presentation. 3950 02:13:59,209 --> 02:13:59,709 As I noted before we hear from 3951 02:13:59,709 --> 02:14:00,146 the applicant and 3952 02:14:00,146 --> 02:14:02,146 the appellant. 3953 02:14:03,313 --> 02:14:03,880 I'll turn it over to the office 3954 02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:04,314 of the City Attorney. 3955 02:14:04,314 --> 02:14:06,314 >> Thank you. 3956 02:14:07,450 --> 02:14:08,151 Council PRESIDENT. 3957 02:14:08,151 --> 02:14:08,884 The legal standard of review 3958 02:14:08,884 --> 02:14:10,884 for environmental environmental 3959 02:14:12,550 --> 02:14:12,789 appeals is de novo. 3960 02:14:12,789 --> 02:14:15,789 That means the council must 3961 02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:17,694 exercise independent judgment 3962 02:14:17,694 --> 02:14:18,527 based on the record for today's 3963 02:14:18,527 --> 02:14:22,127 item As to whether that Council 3964 02:14:22,699 --> 02:14:23,133 agrees with the environmental 3965 02:14:23,133 --> 02:14:25,133 determination. 3966 02:14:26,870 --> 02:14:27,204 The project is not before you 3967 02:14:27,204 --> 02:14:27,770 today. 3968 02:14:27,770 --> 02:14:28,572 A court will uphold 3969 02:14:28,572 --> 02:14:32,172 the Council's decision if it is 3970 02:14:32,242 --> 02:14:32,843 supported by substantial 3971 02:14:32,843 --> 02:14:33,510 evidence in the record. 3972 02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:35,910 That concludes my comments. 3973 02:14:36,713 --> 02:14:37,114 Thank you. 3974 02:14:37,114 --> 02:14:39,114 All right. 3975 02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:41,450 Thank you Leslie, for that 3976 02:14:41,450 --> 02:14:42,119 opening statement. 3977 02:14:42,119 --> 02:14:45,719 So now we will hear from 3978 02:14:46,389 --> 02:14:47,570 the appellant on the item. 3979 02:14:47,570 --> 02:14:47,724 Please come up to the mic. 3980 02:14:47,724 --> 02:14:49,724 Introduce yourself for 3981 02:14:51,127 --> 02:14:51,829 the record and you will have up 3982 02:14:51,829 --> 02:14:52,262 to ten minutes to make your 3983 02:14:52,262 --> 02:14:54,262 presentation. 3984 02:14:55,365 --> 02:14:59,565 Well, we are here to give you 3985 02:15:00,337 --> 02:15:01,141 the evidence to 710. 3986 02:15:01,141 --> 02:15:04,741 By the way, I'm Scott Chipman. 3987 02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:05,743 You probably remember me. 3988 02:15:05,743 --> 02:15:08,143 50 plus year resident of 3989 02:15:09,445 --> 02:15:10,114 Pacific Beach Been on 3990 02:15:10,114 --> 02:15:12,514 the planning group about 20 3991 02:15:13,984 --> 02:15:14,684 years off and on and the 710 3992 02:15:14,684 --> 02:15:15,385 Club Street Re did come to 3993 02:15:15,385 --> 02:15:18,789 the planning group and it was 3994 02:15:18,789 --> 02:15:19,189 voted unanimously to deny 3995 02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:21,189 the project. 3996 02:15:23,427 --> 02:15:23,827 The 710 has not been a good 3997 02:15:23,827 --> 02:15:24,427 neighbor. 3998 02:15:24,427 --> 02:15:25,280 They've been a horrible 3999 02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:25,762 neighbor to hundreds of 4000 02:15:25,762 --> 02:15:28,165 residents across the street and 4001 02:15:28,165 --> 02:15:28,866 see the sea condominiums as 4002 02:15:28,866 --> 02:15:32,466 well as to people wanting to 4003 02:15:32,736 --> 02:15:33,404 enjoy a walk on the boardwalk 4004 02:15:33,404 --> 02:15:37,400 at night And the guests and 4005 02:15:37,574 --> 02:15:37,875 employees of Crystal Pier 4006 02:15:37,875 --> 02:15:38,742 Hotel. 4007 02:15:38,742 --> 02:15:41,742 Thank you for putting up 4008 02:15:42,450 --> 02:15:42,713 the PowerPoint. 4009 02:15:42,713 --> 02:15:43,414 For decades the nearby 4010 02:15:43,414 --> 02:15:45,814 businesses and residents have 4011 02:15:46,350 --> 02:15:47,510 been subjected to amplified 4012 02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:49,451 noise deejays amplified music 4013 02:15:51,455 --> 02:15:51,922 amplified obscenities amplified 4014 02:15:51,922 --> 02:15:52,589 vulgarities. 4015 02:15:52,589 --> 02:15:53,324 They have filed complaints, 4016 02:15:53,324 --> 02:15:56,924 made calls for service and have 4017 02:15:57,194 --> 02:15:57,862 gone have even gone to court 4018 02:15:57,862 --> 02:16:00,262 including mediation but have 4019 02:16:01,465 --> 02:16:02,232 had no or only sporadic relief. 4020 02:16:02,232 --> 02:16:05,232 Now the community is threatened 4021 02:16:06,203 --> 02:16:06,804 by an expansion onto 4022 02:16:06,804 --> 02:16:07,538 the sidewalk and into 4023 02:16:07,538 --> 02:16:10,708 the street of the very problems 4024 02:16:10,708 --> 02:16:11,207 that they have been plagued 4025 02:16:11,207 --> 02:16:13,207 with for decades. 4026 02:16:15,813 --> 02:16:16,680 But we are not here to just say 4027 02:16:16,680 --> 02:16:20,484 again that this is a bad bar 4028 02:16:20,484 --> 02:16:21,152 but that 710 does not qualify 4029 02:16:21,152 --> 02:16:23,552 for a secret exemption. 4030 02:16:25,322 --> 02:16:25,889 As a matter of law under secure 4031 02:16:25,889 --> 02:16:28,289 exemptions are to be 4032 02:16:30,327 --> 02:16:31,280 interpreted narrowly and 4033 02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:31,696 the burden is on the city to 4034 02:16:31,696 --> 02:16:34,960 show the exemption applies. 4035 02:16:35,232 --> 02:16:35,899 Following my presentation you 4036 02:16:35,899 --> 02:16:38,899 will hear from neighbors who 4037 02:16:40,338 --> 02:16:40,937 are representative examples of 4038 02:16:40,937 --> 02:16:42,937 those directly impacted. 4039 02:16:45,343 --> 02:16:46,109 There are several reasons 4040 02:16:46,109 --> 02:16:49,109 the exemption does not apply. 4041 02:16:49,146 --> 02:16:49,579 One there are unusual 4042 02:16:49,579 --> 02:16:50,147 circumstances. 4043 02:16:50,147 --> 02:16:52,547 There is an unusual 4044 02:16:54,385 --> 02:16:55,119 circumstance exception in 4045 02:16:55,119 --> 02:16:57,519 sequel to the cumulative 4046 02:16:58,989 --> 02:16:59,590 exception. 4047 02:16:59,590 --> 02:17:01,990 Three Coastal access and 4048 02:17:03,728 --> 02:17:04,595 Parking impacts And for 4049 02:17:04,595 --> 02:17:07,595 the Fair Argument Standard Next 4050 02:17:08,633 --> 02:17:08,999 slide the unusual circumstances 4051 02:17:08,999 --> 02:17:10,999 exception. 4052 02:17:14,405 --> 02:17:15,720 Even if the city relies on a 4053 02:17:15,720 --> 02:17:17,720 categorical exemption cannot 4054 02:17:18,942 --> 02:17:19,610 apply if there is a reasonable 4055 02:17:19,610 --> 02:17:22,100 possibility of a significant 4056 02:17:22,245 --> 02:17:22,846 environmental impact due to 4057 02:17:22,846 --> 02:17:24,846 unusual circumstances. 4058 02:17:27,651 --> 02:17:29,651 Next slide. 4059 02:17:33,524 --> 02:17:34,225 Hundreds of noise complaints 4060 02:17:34,225 --> 02:17:34,625 Thousands over thousands over 4061 02:17:34,625 --> 02:17:36,625 the decades. 4062 02:17:37,128 --> 02:17:39,528 >> a superior court mandated 4063 02:17:42,333 --> 02:17:43,134 mediation agreement. 4064 02:17:43,134 --> 02:17:46,134 >> a known history of violating 4065 02:17:47,138 --> 02:17:47,571 sound content containment 4066 02:17:47,571 --> 02:17:48,306 requirements. 4067 02:17:48,306 --> 02:17:48,939 A lack of air conditioning 4068 02:17:48,939 --> 02:17:51,339 which was required by 4069 02:17:52,243 --> 02:17:52,944 the mediation leading to open 4070 02:17:52,944 --> 02:17:55,344 doors windows during amplified 4071 02:17:55,479 --> 02:17:57,479 entertainment. 4072 02:18:00,752 --> 02:18:03,152 Next slide incident reports. 4073 02:18:03,454 --> 02:18:07,540 This is just a few months. 4074 02:18:08,993 --> 02:18:09,494 Next slide. 4075 02:18:09,494 --> 02:18:11,494 Next slide. 4076 02:18:13,164 --> 02:18:13,565 I'm sorry. 4077 02:18:13,565 --> 02:18:14,331 One moment. 4078 02:18:14,331 --> 02:18:16,731 We're having some technical 4079 02:18:18,769 --> 02:18:19,437 difficulties. 4080 02:18:19,437 --> 02:18:19,837 We will pass your time. 4081 02:18:19,837 --> 02:18:21,837 Thank you. 4082 02:18:23,908 --> 02:18:24,208 And are we good? 4083 02:18:24,208 --> 02:18:24,608 Okay. 4084 02:18:24,608 --> 02:18:24,909 We're good. 4085 02:18:24,909 --> 02:18:25,209 Okay. 4086 02:18:25,209 --> 02:18:27,209 Yeah. 4087 02:18:28,612 --> 02:18:32,212 It looks the same because these 4088 02:18:33,418 --> 02:18:33,751 continue page after page after 4089 02:18:33,751 --> 02:18:34,285 page. 4090 02:18:34,285 --> 02:18:34,586 Next slide, please. 4091 02:18:34,586 --> 02:18:36,586 Okay. 4092 02:18:38,756 --> 02:18:39,457 Residents indicate there's no 4093 02:18:39,457 --> 02:18:39,790 point in calling for incident 4094 02:18:39,790 --> 02:18:40,492 numbers. 4095 02:18:40,492 --> 02:18:41,590 Most of the time no one comes. 4096 02:18:41,590 --> 02:18:43,459 No one does anything. 4097 02:18:43,862 --> 02:18:44,829 Wait. 4098 02:18:44,829 --> 02:18:45,697 Time is too long to stay on 4099 02:18:45,697 --> 02:18:48,999 the phone for hours and wait to 4100 02:18:48,999 --> 02:18:49,701 file a report. 4101 02:18:49,701 --> 02:18:53,301 The majority of time they give 4102 02:18:56,641 --> 02:18:56,975 up they do not report the noise 4103 02:18:56,975 --> 02:18:57,375 . 4104 02:18:57,375 --> 02:18:57,675 Next slide. 4105 02:18:57,675 --> 02:18:59,675 Okay. 4106 02:19:02,446 --> 02:19:02,880 These are the usual 4107 02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:03,281 circumstances. 4108 02:19:03,281 --> 02:19:05,281 Next slide. 4109 02:19:06,918 --> 02:19:07,786 Okay. 4110 02:19:07,786 --> 02:19:11,986 You can see this is the venue 4111 02:19:12,123 --> 02:19:12,523 from across the street in 4112 02:19:12,523 --> 02:19:14,523 the condos. 4113 02:19:16,861 --> 02:19:19,261 Open doors open skylights. 4114 02:19:22,330 --> 02:19:22,901 Next slide. 4115 02:19:22,901 --> 02:19:23,501 >> So this is not a small 4116 02:19:23,501 --> 02:19:25,501 sidewalk cafe expansion. 4117 02:19:27,239 --> 02:19:27,806 It's an expansion of a high 4118 02:19:27,806 --> 02:19:28,473 conflict historically 4119 02:19:28,473 --> 02:19:30,473 non-compliant entertainment 4120 02:19:32,744 --> 02:19:33,780 venue with documented noise 4121 02:19:33,780 --> 02:19:33,712 impacts. 4122 02:19:33,712 --> 02:19:36,712 Courts have held that when 4123 02:19:37,549 --> 02:19:38,183 there is evidence of a 4124 02:19:38,183 --> 02:19:40,183 reasonable possibility of 4125 02:19:42,586 --> 02:19:43,188 significant noise impacts an 4126 02:19:43,188 --> 02:19:45,188 exemption cannot stand. 4127 02:19:47,792 --> 02:19:48,459 We do not have to prove impacts 4128 02:19:48,459 --> 02:19:49,160 will occur occur only that 4129 02:19:49,160 --> 02:19:51,560 there is substantial evidence 4130 02:19:53,799 --> 02:19:54,132 they MAY occur but that is 4131 02:19:54,132 --> 02:19:54,533 obvious. 4132 02:19:54,533 --> 02:19:56,533 Next slide. 4133 02:19:59,370 --> 02:20:01,770 Cumulative impacts Exception An 4134 02:20:03,842 --> 02:20:04,408 exemption cannot be used if 4135 02:20:04,408 --> 02:20:06,408 cumulative impacts are 4136 02:20:08,747 --> 02:20:09,447 significant and we have years 4137 02:20:09,447 --> 02:20:12,447 of cumulative impacts as well 4138 02:20:13,985 --> 02:20:14,653 As we all know that this area 4139 02:20:14,653 --> 02:20:16,653 has nightlife concentration. 4140 02:20:19,558 --> 02:20:20,258 Seriously high crime and there 4141 02:20:20,258 --> 02:20:23,258 was a prior court involvement. 4142 02:20:24,996 --> 02:20:26,996 Next slide. 4143 02:20:29,134 --> 02:20:29,635 So here are the crime stats 4144 02:20:29,635 --> 02:20:31,635 7905 2200 times. 4145 02:20:34,706 --> 02:20:35,474 Citywide average crime. 4146 02:20:35,474 --> 02:20:39,740 And much of it occurs in 4147 02:20:39,610 --> 02:20:40,110 the street right in front of 4148 02:20:40,110 --> 02:20:42,110 this venue. 4149 02:20:44,716 --> 02:20:45,350 Next slide Everyone knows 4150 02:20:45,350 --> 02:20:45,717 the parking scarcity near 4151 02:20:45,717 --> 02:20:47,717 the beach. 4152 02:20:50,155 --> 02:20:50,923 Next slide. 4153 02:20:50,923 --> 02:20:53,923 This is a letter from 4154 02:20:54,993 --> 02:20:56,993 the Coastal Commission 4155 02:21:00,531 --> 02:21:02,531 indicating that within 4156 02:21:05,904 --> 02:21:08,904 the coastal zone they must 4157 02:21:10,742 --> 02:21:11,677 replace the parking. 4158 02:21:11,677 --> 02:21:14,677 So if there's 5 or 6 parking 4159 02:21:15,646 --> 02:21:15,948 spaces they have to be replaced 4160 02:21:15,948 --> 02:21:17,948 . 4161 02:21:22,454 --> 02:21:23,155 The coastal access impact This 4162 02:21:23,155 --> 02:21:25,555 street removes public parking. 4163 02:21:27,659 --> 02:21:28,292 Converts public right of way to 4164 02:21:28,292 --> 02:21:29,228 private commercial use and 4165 02:21:29,228 --> 02:21:31,228 potentially affects beach 4166 02:21:33,832 --> 02:21:35,832 access. 4167 02:21:39,204 --> 02:21:41,204 Next slide Consider 4168 02:21:45,144 --> 02:21:45,911 the historic Crystal Pier 4169 02:21:45,911 --> 02:21:49,511 allows the public to go out 4170 02:21:50,820 --> 02:21:50,382 sightsee, look at the ocean and 4171 02:21:50,382 --> 02:21:51,116 fish. 4172 02:21:51,116 --> 02:21:53,516 Parking elsewhere still reduces 4173 02:21:56,355 --> 02:21:56,956 parking availability here and 4174 02:21:56,956 --> 02:21:59,356 to the boardwalk nearby. 4175 02:22:01,590 --> 02:22:01,727 The city has failed to analyze 4176 02:22:01,727 --> 02:22:03,727 whether replacement parking 4177 02:22:06,980 --> 02:22:06,398 fully mitigates access impacts 4178 02:22:06,398 --> 02:22:07,320 . 4179 02:22:07,320 --> 02:22:07,766 The exemption improperly 4180 02:22:07,766 --> 02:22:09,602 avoided environmental review of 4181 02:22:09,602 --> 02:22:11,602 coastal access impacts. 4182 02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:15,720 Next slide. 4183 02:22:19,177 --> 02:22:20,450 Next slide. 4184 02:22:20,450 --> 02:22:20,746 >> There's also a change of 4185 02:22:20,746 --> 02:22:23,746 the intensity of use expanding 4186 02:22:24,517 --> 02:22:25,117 the seating capacity actually 4187 02:22:25,117 --> 02:22:27,517 increases the demand for 4188 02:22:30,220 --> 02:22:30,723 parking on that block. 4189 02:22:30,723 --> 02:22:32,723 Increased outdoor congregation 4190 02:22:35,527 --> 02:22:36,127 The sidewalks are already often 4191 02:22:36,127 --> 02:22:36,829 crowded and impassable. 4192 02:22:36,829 --> 02:22:39,229 Potential for increased noise 4193 02:22:40,966 --> 02:22:41,700 spillover. 4194 02:22:41,700 --> 02:22:42,400 Increased demand for parking as 4195 02:22:42,400 --> 02:22:42,673 more patrons are accommodated 4196 02:22:42,673 --> 02:22:44,673 in. 4197 02:22:45,904 --> 02:22:46,605 If you have ever heard of 4198 02:22:46,605 --> 02:22:47,305 the term beer mussels that's a 4199 02:22:47,305 --> 02:22:47,640 very common thing that happens 4200 02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:49,640 in pub. 4201 02:22:51,543 --> 02:22:52,244 You're walking down 4202 02:22:52,244 --> 02:22:52,944 the sidewalk, it gets crowded. 4203 02:22:52,944 --> 02:22:56,544 You decide you'll just bump up 4204 02:22:57,283 --> 02:22:58,490 against a guy and see how he'll 4205 02:22:58,490 --> 02:23:01,649 react If you don't like his 4206 02:23:01,720 --> 02:23:04,720 reaction in becomes a fake. 4207 02:23:07,459 --> 02:23:08,127 Next slide. 4208 02:23:08,127 --> 02:23:08,794 There's strong evidence that 4209 02:23:08,794 --> 02:23:11,794 this operator will not be 4210 02:23:13,331 --> 02:23:14,233 compliant with the idea that 4211 02:23:14,233 --> 02:23:17,233 they're going to comply with 4212 02:23:18,937 --> 02:23:19,338 the noise city's noise 4213 02:23:19,338 --> 02:23:21,338 regulations. 4214 02:23:23,776 --> 02:23:24,277 I'm sorry that's embarrassing 4215 02:23:24,277 --> 02:23:24,844 The city has not. 4216 02:23:24,844 --> 02:23:25,345 We already heard from 4217 02:23:25,345 --> 02:23:26,120 the police chief. 4218 02:23:26,120 --> 02:23:29,120 These are not high priority 4219 02:23:29,715 --> 02:23:30,583 calls. 4220 02:23:30,583 --> 02:23:33,986 So they just stack up and stack 4221 02:23:33,986 --> 02:23:34,487 up and stack up and frustrate 4222 02:23:34,487 --> 02:23:36,487 the residents and 4223 02:23:39,910 --> 02:23:41,910 the businesses nearby. 4224 02:23:44,830 --> 02:23:45,664 Next slide. 4225 02:23:45,664 --> 02:23:49,264 This is the calendar of abuse. 4226 02:23:50,569 --> 02:23:51,700 We understand they want to have 4227 02:23:51,700 --> 02:23:51,804 entertainment but 4228 02:23:51,804 --> 02:23:54,804 the entertainment can't come at 4229 02:23:56,542 --> 02:23:57,243 the expense of your quiet 4230 02:23:57,243 --> 02:24:00,843 enjoyment To be able to watch 4231 02:24:02,115 --> 02:24:06,315 tv or sleep in your own abode. 4232 02:24:07,487 --> 02:24:08,870 Next slide. 4233 02:24:08,870 --> 02:24:10,870 This is amazing. 4234 02:24:13,126 --> 02:24:13,927 A handicapped space was removed 4235 02:24:13,927 --> 02:24:14,427 so that they could expand or 4236 02:24:14,427 --> 02:24:16,427 create a street. 4237 02:24:19,198 --> 02:24:19,866 Obviously it was put back when 4238 02:24:19,866 --> 02:24:22,266 residents filed a complaint. 4239 02:24:24,404 --> 02:24:25,710 So what's going on here? 4240 02:24:25,710 --> 02:24:25,771 Surreptitiously moving a 4241 02:24:25,771 --> 02:24:28,171 handicapped parking space for 4242 02:24:30,110 --> 02:24:31,430 your own financial gain. 4243 02:24:31,430 --> 02:24:34,643 I'd be curious what kind of 4244 02:24:36,149 --> 02:24:36,549 enforcement or penalty that 4245 02:24:36,549 --> 02:24:38,549 that caused. 4246 02:24:41,453 --> 02:24:42,388 Next slide. 4247 02:24:42,388 --> 02:24:45,988 The sidewalk has become a venue 4248 02:24:47,594 --> 02:24:48,610 and that's can be okay but not 4249 02:24:48,610 --> 02:24:48,461 to this extreme. 4250 02:24:48,461 --> 02:24:50,461 Next slide. 4251 02:24:58,338 --> 02:24:59,380 TVs and speakers mounted on 4252 02:24:59,380 --> 02:24:59,606 the sidewalk basically saying 4253 02:24:59,606 --> 02:25:02,600 this is our sidewalk. 4254 02:25:05,512 --> 02:25:06,412 It's not public. 4255 02:25:06,412 --> 02:25:07,147 >> It's not a public access. 4256 02:25:07,147 --> 02:25:10,747 Scott, you're going to run out 4257 02:25:11,584 --> 02:25:12,285 of time So I'll give you an 4258 02:25:12,285 --> 02:25:12,719 opportunity for a conclusion. 4259 02:25:12,719 --> 02:25:13,860 I'll wrap up. 4260 02:25:13,860 --> 02:25:14,554 Thank you. 4261 02:25:14,554 --> 02:25:15,540 A concluding statement You had 4262 02:25:15,540 --> 02:25:15,422 your ten minutes. 4263 02:25:15,422 --> 02:25:16,122 Thank you. 4264 02:25:16,122 --> 02:25:19,122 The exemption cannot apply due 4265 02:25:20,393 --> 02:25:21,940 to the unusual circumstances. 4266 02:25:21,940 --> 02:25:21,761 The substantial evidence of 4267 02:25:21,761 --> 02:25:23,761 potential significant noise 4268 02:25:26,232 --> 02:25:26,833 impacts the cumulative impacts 4269 02:25:26,833 --> 02:25:27,333 and the parking loss in 4270 02:25:27,333 --> 02:25:27,933 the coastal zone. 4271 02:25:27,933 --> 02:25:30,933 The city cannot rely on 4272 02:25:32,505 --> 02:25:32,872 replacement parking without 4273 02:25:32,872 --> 02:25:33,606 analysis. 4274 02:25:33,606 --> 02:25:34,107 We're just asking for analysis, 4275 02:25:34,107 --> 02:25:34,474 not an exemption. 4276 02:25:34,474 --> 02:25:36,474 Thank you. 4277 02:25:38,611 --> 02:25:39,346 All right. 4278 02:25:39,346 --> 02:25:40,460 Thank you for the presentation. 4279 02:25:40,460 --> 02:25:43,460 Now I'll invite the applicant. 4280 02:25:44,484 --> 02:25:45,170 You will also have up to ten 4281 02:25:45,170 --> 02:25:45,451 minutes to make your 4282 02:25:45,451 --> 02:25:45,919 presentation. 4283 02:25:45,919 --> 02:25:46,452 I don't know who 4284 02:25:46,452 --> 02:25:48,452 the spokesperson for 4285 02:25:50,289 --> 02:25:51,570 the applicant is. 4286 02:25:51,570 --> 02:25:54,570 I thought there was a 4287 02:25:55,695 --> 02:25:58,950 presentation by the applicant. 4288 02:26:02,936 --> 02:26:03,269 I believe you have a slide deck 4289 02:26:03,269 --> 02:26:03,703 as well. 4290 02:26:03,703 --> 02:26:04,204 There you go. 4291 02:26:04,204 --> 02:26:04,637 I have one slide. 4292 02:26:04,637 --> 02:26:06,637 There you go. 4293 02:26:09,142 --> 02:26:09,843 All right. 4294 02:26:09,843 --> 02:26:10,243 English is off the record and 4295 02:26:10,243 --> 02:26:10,910 let us know. 4296 02:26:10,910 --> 02:26:13,980 You have up to ten minutes. 4297 02:26:13,980 --> 02:26:16,980 So my name's Scott Slager, 4298 02:26:19,190 --> 02:26:19,719 owner of 17 Beach Club for 36 4299 02:26:19,719 --> 02:26:20,387 years, started as an engineer 4300 02:26:20,387 --> 02:26:25,250 in L.A. And came down to San 4301 02:26:25,250 --> 02:26:25,792 Diego to do some work and 4302 02:26:25,792 --> 02:26:30,592 bought a bar by the bar And ppb 4303 02:26:31,980 --> 02:26:31,865 spent a lot of time in ppb 4304 02:26:31,865 --> 02:26:32,299 because I was 26 years old and 4305 02:26:32,299 --> 02:26:34,299 I love music. 4306 02:26:36,803 --> 02:26:37,638 Big fan of Live entertainment. 4307 02:26:37,638 --> 02:26:38,438 I owned two music clubs in San 4308 02:26:38,438 --> 02:26:42,776 Diego and I do a lot of music 4309 02:26:42,776 --> 02:26:43,760 production in the city of San 4310 02:26:43,760 --> 02:26:43,843 Diego. 4311 02:26:43,843 --> 02:26:47,443 I believe that contrary to some 4312 02:26:49,149 --> 02:26:49,783 of the statements that have 4313 02:26:49,783 --> 02:26:50,350 been made today, I've done 4314 02:26:50,350 --> 02:26:52,750 everything I can in 4315 02:26:55,155 --> 02:26:55,855 the commercial zone with a 4316 02:26:55,855 --> 02:26:59,455 license that I paid dearly for 4317 02:26:59,626 --> 02:27:00,394 for live entertainment to be 4318 02:27:00,394 --> 02:27:01,930 there at 710 Garnet And it was 4319 02:27:01,930 --> 02:27:04,930 there prior to that for 30 4320 02:27:05,731 --> 02:27:06,433 years prior to the condominium 4321 02:27:06,433 --> 02:27:06,833 complex that got built across 4322 02:27:06,833 --> 02:27:08,833 the street. 4323 02:27:11,605 --> 02:27:12,238 So I believe that as long as I 4324 02:27:12,238 --> 02:27:13,600 haven't had a violation in 4325 02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:16,600 the last 35 years which is 4326 02:27:17,444 --> 02:27:18,211 the case, I do have the right I 4327 02:27:18,211 --> 02:27:21,148 believe to operate within my 4328 02:27:21,148 --> 02:27:23,148 permits. 4329 02:27:28,489 --> 02:27:29,189 So having said that, 4330 02:27:29,189 --> 02:27:29,857 the handicapped parking issue 4331 02:27:29,857 --> 02:27:30,557 is the only thing I want to 4332 02:27:30,557 --> 02:27:30,991 address from what MR. Shipman 4333 02:27:30,991 --> 02:27:32,991 talked about. 4334 02:27:34,940 --> 02:27:34,628 I did that legally through dsd. 4335 02:27:34,628 --> 02:27:36,628 Everything was done. 4336 02:27:40,300 --> 02:27:40,901 It was not serendipitous. 4337 02:27:40,901 --> 02:27:41,235 I've never done anything 4338 02:27:41,235 --> 02:27:41,534 illegal. 4339 02:27:41,534 --> 02:27:43,534 Okay. 4340 02:27:46,730 --> 02:27:46,773 So with that being said, I'll 4341 02:27:46,773 --> 02:27:47,508 give you a little bit of 4342 02:27:47,508 --> 02:27:50,508 history About 710 Beach Club it 4343 02:27:52,979 --> 02:27:53,580 used to be by Mellons I named 4344 02:27:53,580 --> 02:27:54,548 it by Melinda in 1989. 4345 02:27:54,548 --> 02:27:58,218 It was a blues club when I 4346 02:27:58,218 --> 02:27:59,190 purchased it. 4347 02:27:59,190 --> 02:27:59,353 The bar that existed was called 4348 02:27:59,353 --> 02:27:59,954 Bangers. 4349 02:27:59,954 --> 02:28:00,421 Bangers was basically a 4350 02:28:00,421 --> 02:28:02,421 motorcycle club. 4351 02:28:05,910 --> 02:28:05,793 I eradicate it that I try to 4352 02:28:05,793 --> 02:28:06,493 eliminate the noise because I 4353 02:28:06,493 --> 02:28:09,493 was getting calls for service 4354 02:28:10,300 --> 02:28:12,430 from the motorcycles daily. 4355 02:28:16,804 --> 02:28:19,804 Ultimately I got embroiled in 4356 02:28:22,743 --> 02:28:23,610 what you would call politics 4357 02:28:23,610 --> 02:28:24,144 and I became the PRESIDENT Of 4358 02:28:24,144 --> 02:28:24,778 the largest business 4359 02:28:24,778 --> 02:28:26,778 improvement association in 4360 02:28:29,349 --> 02:28:29,750 the United States 20 2200 4361 02:28:29,750 --> 02:28:31,750 businesses. 4362 02:28:33,721 --> 02:28:34,454 I spoke right here in 1995 to 4363 02:28:34,454 --> 02:28:35,122 create the largest bid as I was 4364 02:28:35,122 --> 02:28:35,689 the PRESIDENT And that took 4365 02:28:35,689 --> 02:28:38,689 four years of my life. 4366 02:28:39,659 --> 02:28:40,261 During that time I actually 4367 02:28:40,261 --> 02:28:42,661 created a nonprofit that 4368 02:28:45,599 --> 02:28:45,933 created Census Patrol pieces of 4369 02:28:45,933 --> 02:28:46,634 patrol. 4370 02:28:46,634 --> 02:28:47,201 We were the ones that actually 4371 02:28:47,201 --> 02:28:49,601 caught the pd rapist. 4372 02:28:51,706 --> 02:28:52,372 I was instrumental in that part 4373 02:28:52,372 --> 02:28:53,107 because the pd Rapist was a 4374 02:28:53,107 --> 02:28:56,707 band member playing in my clubs 4375 02:28:57,311 --> 02:28:58,379 at the time. 4376 02:28:58,379 --> 02:28:58,979 We work with the fbi so I am a 4377 02:28:58,979 --> 02:28:59,379 community guy from that 4378 02:28:59,379 --> 02:29:01,379 perspective. 4379 02:29:03,684 --> 02:29:04,418 I followed that with 15 years 4380 02:29:04,418 --> 02:29:05,152 of being a director on the Food 4381 02:29:05,152 --> 02:29:08,152 and Beverage Society of San 4382 02:29:09,757 --> 02:29:10,725 Diego. 4383 02:29:10,725 --> 02:29:14,925 So I do put my time into 4384 02:29:15,263 --> 02:29:16,290 the community in Ocean Beach 4385 02:29:16,290 --> 02:29:16,397 way on my other bar called 4386 02:29:16,397 --> 02:29:17,980 Winstons. 4387 02:29:17,980 --> 02:29:20,698 My partner and I are actively 4388 02:29:21,569 --> 02:29:22,336 involved in all the community 4389 02:29:22,336 --> 02:29:22,937 groups and we have raised 4390 02:29:22,937 --> 02:29:23,704 hundreds of thousands of 4391 02:29:23,704 --> 02:29:27,304 dollars through our bar and our 4392 02:29:28,750 --> 02:29:28,409 events to add to that community 4393 02:29:28,409 --> 02:29:30,409 success. 4394 02:29:33,814 --> 02:29:34,482 I started working with 4395 02:29:34,482 --> 02:29:36,882 the Wounded Warrior Freedom 4396 02:29:38,485 --> 02:29:38,919 Station Wounded Warriors about 4397 02:29:38,919 --> 02:29:39,620 ten years ago. 4398 02:29:39,620 --> 02:29:40,870 You'll hear from the director 4399 02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:42,870 sometime today. 4400 02:29:44,559 --> 02:29:45,226 i've raised over $100,000 for 4401 02:29:45,226 --> 02:29:47,626 that organization through my 4402 02:29:50,265 --> 02:29:51,132 businesses so I'm just trying 4403 02:29:51,132 --> 02:29:55,737 to say to you Council that I do 4404 02:29:55,737 --> 02:29:56,537 have the right, I believe to do 4405 02:29:56,537 --> 02:29:57,238 what I'm doing And a couple of 4406 02:29:57,238 --> 02:29:59,638 really interesting things that 4407 02:30:02,420 --> 02:30:02,343 occurred over the last 30 4408 02:30:02,343 --> 02:30:03,430 years. 4409 02:30:03,430 --> 02:30:03,410 I don't even own the building 4410 02:30:03,410 --> 02:30:05,410 there yet. 4411 02:30:07,215 --> 02:30:07,882 I had to put $150,000 into a 4412 02:30:07,882 --> 02:30:10,882 complete remodel to try to 4413 02:30:13,870 --> 02:30:13,855 reduce noise. 4414 02:30:13,855 --> 02:30:14,389 I happened to be an engineer. 4415 02:30:14,389 --> 02:30:16,389 I understand sound. 4416 02:30:17,692 --> 02:30:20,692 We by doing that $150,000 out 4417 02:30:21,362 --> 02:30:22,163 of my pocket we reduce 4418 02:30:22,163 --> 02:30:22,664 the sound by three db which is 4419 02:30:22,664 --> 02:30:24,664 double the power. 4420 02:30:28,102 --> 02:30:28,770 Later I actually added air 4421 02:30:28,770 --> 02:30:31,170 conditioning and large they 4422 02:30:33,608 --> 02:30:33,875 call them big fans to reduce 4423 02:30:33,875 --> 02:30:34,575 my. 4424 02:30:34,575 --> 02:30:35,276 I guess conceptually if I have 4425 02:30:35,276 --> 02:30:38,876 to open doors and windows when 4426 02:30:40,810 --> 02:30:40,715 it's hot in the summer I don't 4427 02:30:40,715 --> 02:30:41,382 have that problem anymore. 4428 02:30:41,382 --> 02:30:43,782 Scott Shachtman did mention 4429 02:30:45,420 --> 02:30:46,120 about I did have a speaker 4430 02:30:46,120 --> 02:30:46,554 pointed outside to the street 4431 02:30:46,554 --> 02:30:48,554 during covid. 4432 02:30:51,726 --> 02:30:52,360 I was desperate. 4433 02:30:52,360 --> 02:30:52,727 I wanted people to enjoy 4434 02:30:52,727 --> 02:30:54,727 outdoors. 4435 02:30:56,430 --> 02:30:57,131 I was losing $60,000 a month 4436 02:30:57,131 --> 02:31:00,731 with no income through my four 4437 02:31:01,935 --> 02:31:02,971 enterprises during covid. 4438 02:31:02,971 --> 02:31:03,605 And to that end, if you look at 4439 02:31:03,605 --> 02:31:07,205 the slide up here, all I'm 4440 02:31:08,276 --> 02:31:12,147 trying to do is get a street 4441 02:31:12,147 --> 02:31:13,114 reopened and I have already 4442 02:31:13,114 --> 02:31:16,114 spent $125,000 and I have been 4443 02:31:18,319 --> 02:31:18,641 closed since APRIL of last 4444 02:31:18,641 --> 02:31:20,641 year. 4445 02:31:23,591 --> 02:31:24,125 It's just sitting there And 4446 02:31:24,125 --> 02:31:24,826 during this $125,000 4447 02:31:24,826 --> 02:31:27,226 expenditure there were people 4448 02:31:29,864 --> 02:31:30,565 from dsd specifically to Carrie 4449 02:31:30,565 --> 02:31:33,565 Lindsay that literally told me 4450 02:31:35,370 --> 02:31:36,170 i had to pay $57,000 at 4451 02:31:36,170 --> 02:31:39,770 the time to not remove my 4452 02:31:40,308 --> 02:31:40,808 street three 57,000 for back 4453 02:31:40,808 --> 02:31:42,808 rent during covid. 4454 02:31:46,648 --> 02:31:51,448 So I don't know how many of you 4455 02:31:53,722 --> 02:31:54,389 own a business during covid but 4456 02:31:54,389 --> 02:31:57,389 I almost lost everything and 4457 02:32:03,640 --> 02:32:07,264 here I am for a simple theory 4458 02:32:09,638 --> 02:32:10,138 that All right, thank you for 4459 02:32:10,138 --> 02:32:12,138 your presentation. 4460 02:32:16,278 --> 02:32:16,945 >> We're going to hear a lot 4461 02:32:16,945 --> 02:32:17,645 more things you like and you 4462 02:32:17,645 --> 02:32:18,279 dislike Thumbs up, thumbs down 4463 02:32:18,279 --> 02:32:20,882 really helps us move right 4464 02:32:20,882 --> 02:32:21,717 along. 4465 02:32:21,717 --> 02:32:22,350 Thank you for the presentation 4466 02:32:22,350 --> 02:32:25,350 And with that clerk please 4467 02:32:27,722 --> 02:32:28,523 proceed with public comment. 4468 02:32:28,523 --> 02:32:29,224 >> Council PRESIDENT Before I 4469 02:32:29,224 --> 02:32:29,825 begin I will note that we will 4470 02:32:29,825 --> 02:32:32,825 be a minute per person. 4471 02:32:33,428 --> 02:32:34,162 We do have several speakers 4472 02:32:34,162 --> 02:32:34,763 here to speak on this item But 4473 02:32:34,763 --> 02:32:35,397 one housekeeping thing. 4474 02:32:35,397 --> 02:32:38,397 I know there is confusion 4475 02:32:39,100 --> 02:32:39,668 understanding if you're in 4476 02:32:39,668 --> 02:32:40,334 favor or in opposition 4477 02:32:40,334 --> 02:32:41,200 the speakership should be if 4478 02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:44,602 you're in favor of the staff 4479 02:32:44,972 --> 02:32:45,674 recommendation or in opposition 4480 02:32:45,674 --> 02:32:46,374 of the staff recommendation. 4481 02:32:46,374 --> 02:32:46,841 The staff recommendation is to 4482 02:32:46,841 --> 02:32:48,841 deny the appeal. 4483 02:32:51,313 --> 02:32:51,780 Everyone submitted a request to 4484 02:32:51,780 --> 02:32:52,514 speak in favor. 4485 02:32:52,514 --> 02:32:53,181 So we just want to make sure if 4486 02:32:53,181 --> 02:32:56,985 when you come up to your to 4487 02:32:56,985 --> 02:32:57,553 the lectern to please say if 4488 02:32:57,553 --> 02:32:58,253 you're in favor or in 4489 02:32:58,253 --> 02:32:58,820 opposition so that I can get 4490 02:32:58,820 --> 02:32:59,221 that appropriately for 4491 02:32:59,221 --> 02:33:01,221 the record. 4492 02:33:03,125 --> 02:33:03,759 So if you're in favor or you're 4493 02:33:03,759 --> 02:33:04,159 in favor of the denial of 4494 02:33:04,159 --> 02:33:04,893 the appeal. 4495 02:33:04,893 --> 02:33:07,893 If you're in opposition, you're 4496 02:33:08,363 --> 02:33:09,640 in opposition of the staff 4497 02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:09,731 recommendation which is denial 4498 02:33:09,731 --> 02:33:12,731 of the appeal starting with 4499 02:33:15,103 --> 02:33:15,970 rent garage. 4500 02:33:15,970 --> 02:33:16,638 If you can please come up to 4501 02:33:16,638 --> 02:33:17,600 the microphone after that is 4502 02:33:17,600 --> 02:33:17,673 requested. 4503 02:33:17,673 --> 02:33:20,409 If you can please come up to 4504 02:33:20,409 --> 02:33:20,775 the other reserved seats at 4505 02:33:20,775 --> 02:33:21,443 the front. 4506 02:33:21,443 --> 02:33:24,443 Then we have Dale Gauthier, 4507 02:33:26,749 --> 02:33:29,749 Candy Hogan, Willis Allen not 4508 02:33:33,722 --> 02:33:37,322 seeing anybody get up is our 4509 02:33:38,727 --> 02:33:39,294 usher our emg, a r a j? 4510 02:33:39,294 --> 02:33:39,595 We had to leave. 4511 02:33:39,595 --> 02:33:41,595 Okay. 4512 02:33:44,566 --> 02:33:46,966 Ritesh, are you here? 4513 02:33:51,139 --> 02:33:51,740 Okay, Dale, you have time to go 4514 02:33:51,740 --> 02:33:52,341 To you by Gordon. 4515 02:33:52,341 --> 02:33:54,741 MISS Gordon Still here? 4516 02:33:56,578 --> 02:33:56,845 Gordon For for Lucca? 4517 02:33:56,845 --> 02:33:57,713 Yes. 4518 02:33:57,713 --> 02:34:00,949 I just need you to raise your 4519 02:34:00,949 --> 02:34:01,449 hand so if you're here you'll 4520 02:34:01,449 --> 02:34:01,950 have two minutes. 4521 02:34:01,950 --> 02:34:02,318 >> Please proceed. 4522 02:34:02,318 --> 02:34:03,285 All right. 4523 02:34:03,285 --> 02:34:07,485 I am in opposition to the staff 4524 02:34:08,456 --> 02:34:08,857 recommendation. 4525 02:34:08,857 --> 02:34:09,558 Thank you. 4526 02:34:09,558 --> 02:34:09,925 Whatever that was, that works 4527 02:34:09,925 --> 02:34:11,925 out okay. 4528 02:34:14,196 --> 02:34:14,496 Good afternoon, Council members 4529 02:34:14,496 --> 02:34:15,230 Staff. 4530 02:34:15,230 --> 02:34:18,830 My name is Dale Gauthier and 4531 02:34:19,401 --> 02:34:20,690 I'm representing myself as an 4532 02:34:20,690 --> 02:34:23,669 owner of property in the c 4533 02:34:25,741 --> 02:34:26,408 Condominiums which are directly 4534 02:34:26,408 --> 02:34:28,808 across Garnett from the 710 4535 02:34:32,181 --> 02:34:32,581 kept hearing it called a 4536 02:34:32,581 --> 02:34:32,982 restaurant. 4537 02:34:32,982 --> 02:34:33,749 It's a bar. 4538 02:34:33,749 --> 02:34:37,349 I have owned my property for 4539 02:34:37,419 --> 02:34:38,120 more than a decade and 4540 02:34:38,120 --> 02:34:38,854 the impact this bar has had on 4541 02:34:38,854 --> 02:34:39,454 my property and quality of life 4542 02:34:39,454 --> 02:34:41,854 in that neighborhood is 4543 02:34:43,459 --> 02:34:44,159 indescribable. 4544 02:34:44,159 --> 02:34:44,727 The loud raucous music at all 4545 02:34:44,727 --> 02:34:47,127 hours they're open but 4546 02:34:49,532 --> 02:34:50,299 particularly at night the music 4547 02:34:50,299 --> 02:34:50,699 is blasting and even worse with 4548 02:34:50,699 --> 02:34:51,367 live bands. 4549 02:34:51,367 --> 02:34:53,367 There's vulgarity, sidewalk 4550 02:34:56,771 --> 02:34:57,473 fights, public intoxication of 4551 02:34:57,473 --> 02:35:00,473 the century 710 at night that 4552 02:35:02,780 --> 02:35:02,945 we're all subject to. 4553 02:35:02,945 --> 02:35:05,945 Not only does this 17 ownership 4554 02:35:07,749 --> 02:35:08,450 and management allow this 4555 02:35:08,450 --> 02:35:09,152 behavior, they actively act to 4556 02:35:09,152 --> 02:35:11,552 amplify the behavior resulting 4557 02:35:13,556 --> 02:35:13,889 in direct threats to public 4558 02:35:13,889 --> 02:35:14,624 safety. 4559 02:35:14,624 --> 02:35:15,424 This is not your neighborhood 4560 02:35:15,424 --> 02:35:19,240 Cheers Bar As you've heard from 4561 02:35:19,494 --> 02:35:20,229 others or from scouts 4562 02:35:20,229 --> 02:35:22,629 presentations doors windows are 4563 02:35:25,368 --> 02:35:25,868 often left open with plastic 4564 02:35:25,868 --> 02:35:26,534 music coming out. 4565 02:35:26,534 --> 02:35:29,534 The proposed street bar will 4566 02:35:31,907 --> 02:35:32,642 only make noise levels to 4567 02:35:32,642 --> 02:35:33,243 the neighborhood and that we 4568 02:35:33,243 --> 02:35:35,243 experience worse because 4569 02:35:37,379 --> 02:35:38,810 the food, the food and beverage 4570 02:35:38,810 --> 02:35:38,848 servers will have to have 4571 02:35:38,848 --> 02:35:42,448 egress ingress to the bar to 4572 02:35:44,190 --> 02:35:46,419 deliver the services to 4573 02:35:49,325 --> 02:35:49,891 the street bar as it is now 4574 02:35:49,891 --> 02:35:50,593 the property values on 4575 02:35:50,593 --> 02:35:51,293 the north side of the building 4576 02:35:51,293 --> 02:35:51,927 are devalued over the rest of 4577 02:35:51,927 --> 02:35:54,927 the units in the building. 4578 02:35:56,165 --> 02:35:56,733 If you look at historical 4579 02:35:56,733 --> 02:35:57,432 resale prices, they're 4580 02:35:57,432 --> 02:35:59,432 typically 4 to $500,000 less. 4581 02:36:01,570 --> 02:36:02,305 Not because of ocean view 4582 02:36:02,305 --> 02:36:04,705 differences because of this 710 4583 02:36:08,770 --> 02:36:08,744 bar when when our building was 4584 02:36:08,744 --> 02:36:09,379 originally built cool ocean 4585 02:36:09,379 --> 02:36:12,379 breezes we didn't need it. 4586 02:36:13,490 --> 02:36:13,783 Now we have to have all 4587 02:36:13,783 --> 02:36:14,350 the windows and sliders closed. 4588 02:36:14,350 --> 02:36:14,851 >> Thank you for that 4589 02:36:14,851 --> 02:36:15,384 concluding remark. 4590 02:36:15,384 --> 02:36:17,784 Your time has come. 4591 02:36:20,455 --> 02:36:21,157 Strongly urged the county Hogan 4592 02:36:21,157 --> 02:36:21,824 County Hogan to the following 4593 02:36:21,824 --> 02:36:24,224 Individuals can please raise 4594 02:36:25,610 --> 02:36:25,728 their hands. 4595 02:36:25,728 --> 02:36:26,429 Kathleen Lippert, thank you. 4596 02:36:26,429 --> 02:36:30,290 You'll have two minutes if you 4597 02:36:31,768 --> 02:36:32,101 can If you need anything over 4598 02:36:32,101 --> 02:36:32,402 here. 4599 02:36:32,402 --> 02:36:33,136 Yes. 4600 02:36:33,136 --> 02:36:33,603 You'll give it to my staff. 4601 02:36:33,603 --> 02:36:34,270 They'll get it. 4602 02:36:34,270 --> 02:36:35,471 They'll get it distributed. 4603 02:36:35,471 --> 02:36:37,471 You to polygraphs. 4604 02:36:42,110 --> 02:36:42,314 I'd like better if it's ever 4605 02:36:42,314 --> 02:36:42,912 here. 4606 02:36:42,912 --> 02:36:43,381 You'll have two minutes. 4607 02:36:43,381 --> 02:36:44,113 Please proceed. 4608 02:36:44,113 --> 02:36:48,170 If you can go to the higher 4609 02:36:48,170 --> 02:36:48,518 microphone will capture you a 4610 02:36:48,518 --> 02:36:48,884 little bit better. 4611 02:36:48,884 --> 02:36:49,586 Thank you. 4612 02:36:49,586 --> 02:36:53,456 Well, first of all, I want to 4613 02:36:53,456 --> 02:36:53,756 thank you all for your hard 4614 02:36:53,756 --> 02:36:54,456 work. 4615 02:36:54,456 --> 02:36:58,560 I know that's a thankless job 4616 02:36:59,629 --> 02:37:00,263 sitting up there so I. 4617 02:37:00,263 --> 02:37:00,930 I really appreciate it. 4618 02:37:00,930 --> 02:37:01,664 If you look at the photos, 4619 02:37:01,664 --> 02:37:05,264 you'll see that the building is 4620 02:37:05,368 --> 02:37:05,702 across the street from 76 4621 02:37:05,702 --> 02:37:06,335 condos. 4622 02:37:06,335 --> 02:37:08,735 These homeowners have paid 4623 02:37:10,874 --> 02:37:11,408 taxes and supported the city 4624 02:37:11,408 --> 02:37:12,242 several years back. 4625 02:37:12,242 --> 02:37:12,542 We went to mediation for a full 4626 02:37:12,542 --> 02:37:14,542 year. 4627 02:37:17,247 --> 02:37:17,848 We're told that if we did they 4628 02:37:17,848 --> 02:37:18,214 would do something about 4629 02:37:18,214 --> 02:37:18,915 the noise. 4630 02:37:18,915 --> 02:37:22,515 We all gave up time and 4631 02:37:23,553 --> 02:37:24,187 everything just to go to 4632 02:37:24,187 --> 02:37:24,788 mediation 710 Club because 4633 02:37:24,788 --> 02:37:27,188 the decibel readings in 4634 02:37:29,259 --> 02:37:33,459 the condo that I owned at night 4635 02:37:33,697 --> 02:37:34,497 were above inside my condo 65db 4636 02:37:34,497 --> 02:37:38,970 at night my floor actually you 4637 02:37:39,769 --> 02:37:40,403 could hear every single 4638 02:37:40,403 --> 02:37:41,710 drumbeat They would leave 4639 02:37:41,710 --> 02:37:44,710 the doors open, the skylight 4640 02:37:46,709 --> 02:37:47,377 open and after a year of 4641 02:37:47,377 --> 02:37:50,377 mediation the owner said he 4642 02:37:52,482 --> 02:37:53,830 admitted that he wanted to play 4643 02:37:53,830 --> 02:37:53,717 the music out to attract 4644 02:37:53,717 --> 02:37:54,170 the patrons from the other 4645 02:37:54,170 --> 02:37:56,170 bars. 4646 02:37:57,554 --> 02:37:58,255 It was agreed upon that they 4647 02:37:58,255 --> 02:37:58,955 would close the doors and shut 4648 02:37:58,955 --> 02:37:59,422 everything during the time of 4649 02:37:59,422 --> 02:38:01,422 amplified music. 4650 02:38:03,860 --> 02:38:04,494 It wasn't a real solution 4651 02:38:04,494 --> 02:38:05,228 because now they have all 4652 02:38:05,228 --> 02:38:08,828 the opening and every time they 4653 02:38:09,933 --> 02:38:10,733 open the doors all the time 4654 02:38:10,733 --> 02:38:11,401 still comes out and they kept 4655 02:38:11,401 --> 02:38:14,401 the skylight open no matter 4656 02:38:15,672 --> 02:38:16,439 what we did And how many times 4657 02:38:16,439 --> 02:38:17,390 they called it wouldn't it has 4658 02:38:17,390 --> 02:38:19,439 not stopped over years. 4659 02:38:22,312 --> 02:38:22,979 Please consider the 76 4660 02:38:22,979 --> 02:38:25,979 homeowners of this of these 4661 02:38:27,616 --> 02:38:28,417 condominiums across this small 4662 02:38:28,417 --> 02:38:29,186 street and realize that a 17 4663 02:38:29,186 --> 02:38:32,786 club is not an owner of 4664 02:38:34,900 --> 02:38:34,791 the real estate But we we who 4665 02:38:34,791 --> 02:38:37,791 paid hundreds of thousands of 4666 02:38:39,963 --> 02:38:40,630 dollars in property tax are 4667 02:38:40,630 --> 02:38:43,300 being affected very horribly 4668 02:38:46,302 --> 02:38:47,300 negatively Please help us Also 4669 02:38:47,300 --> 02:38:47,638 I don't know if you know 4670 02:38:47,638 --> 02:38:48,271 additionally you'll see in 4671 02:38:48,271 --> 02:38:51,271 the pictures they are now 4672 02:38:53,677 --> 02:38:54,344 serving beer And thank you for 4673 02:38:54,344 --> 02:38:55,120 the on the street comment on 4674 02:38:55,120 --> 02:38:55,378 the site Your time has come. 4675 02:38:55,378 --> 02:38:57,378 Thank you. 4676 02:39:00,484 --> 02:39:01,318 Thank you. 4677 02:39:01,318 --> 02:39:02,180 Well if Alan Well as you have 4678 02:39:02,180 --> 02:39:04,554 time to go to my Claudia Alan 4679 02:39:04,554 --> 02:39:05,155 can please raise your hand. 4680 02:39:05,155 --> 02:39:05,755 >> Thank you. 4681 02:39:05,755 --> 02:39:06,289 You'll have two minutes. 4682 02:39:06,289 --> 02:39:06,924 Thank you very much. 4683 02:39:06,924 --> 02:39:08,924 Council PRESIDENT Council 4684 02:39:10,994 --> 02:39:11,294 members My name as well as 4685 02:39:11,294 --> 02:39:11,995 Alan. 4686 02:39:11,995 --> 02:39:12,629 I'm representing the ownership 4687 02:39:12,629 --> 02:39:15,629 of Crystal Pier Hotel and 4688 02:39:16,266 --> 02:39:16,967 Cottages and Pacific Beach. 4689 02:39:16,967 --> 02:39:17,835 We're adjacent to the 17 Beach 4690 02:39:17,835 --> 02:39:21,435 Club at 710 Garnet I'm here to 4691 02:39:22,739 --> 02:39:23,440 respectfully request that you 4692 02:39:23,440 --> 02:39:27,400 grant for our appeal and deny 4693 02:39:28,145 --> 02:39:28,912 any continued legal exemption 4694 02:39:28,912 --> 02:39:29,546 for the 710 Club St3 our hotel 4695 02:39:29,546 --> 02:39:31,946 and the large condominium 4696 02:39:34,510 --> 02:39:34,785 building directly across 4697 02:39:34,785 --> 02:39:35,519 the street have endured endured 4698 02:39:35,519 --> 02:39:37,919 significant adverse impact from 4699 02:39:39,220 --> 02:39:39,623 this bar for over 35 years and 4700 02:39:39,623 --> 02:39:42,230 those impacts have been 4701 02:39:44,795 --> 02:39:45,228 intensified Not relieved by 4702 02:39:45,228 --> 02:39:45,929 this retreat. 4703 02:39:45,929 --> 02:39:49,529 First the noise during the day 4704 02:39:50,500 --> 02:39:51,235 and late night disruption or 4705 02:39:51,235 --> 02:39:51,869 constant noise from the parties 4706 02:39:51,869 --> 02:39:55,469 patrons is so bad that our 4707 02:39:56,774 --> 02:39:57,408 front staff has to close 4708 02:39:57,408 --> 02:39:58,750 the doors of the office of 4709 02:39:58,750 --> 02:39:58,742 the hotel, go into the back 4710 02:39:58,742 --> 02:40:02,245 office to try to speak to 4711 02:40:02,245 --> 02:40:02,913 customers. 4712 02:40:02,913 --> 02:40:03,613 We've had to extend our 4713 02:40:03,613 --> 02:40:06,613 security guard hours simply to 4714 02:40:09,530 --> 02:40:09,719 deal with the noise and unruly 4715 02:40:09,719 --> 02:40:10,420 patrons at the bar closing. 4716 02:40:10,420 --> 02:40:14,200 This is not compatible with a 4717 02:40:14,558 --> 02:40:15,226 visitor serving coastal hotel 4718 02:40:15,226 --> 02:40:15,959 or with residents trying to 4719 02:40:15,959 --> 02:40:19,559 live and sleep in a condominium 4720 02:40:20,564 --> 02:40:21,331 across the street. 4721 02:40:21,331 --> 02:40:21,999 Secondly, there is a direct 4722 02:40:21,999 --> 02:40:24,999 economic and quality of life 4723 02:40:26,437 --> 02:40:27,170 harm We have had to comp rooms 4724 02:40:27,170 --> 02:40:30,170 and provide discounts to guests 4725 02:40:32,409 --> 02:40:33,760 who were disrupted by noise and 4726 02:40:33,760 --> 02:40:33,444 bad behavior associated with 4727 02:40:33,444 --> 02:40:35,444 this bar. 4728 02:40:37,381 --> 02:40:38,149 Guests were kept away awake, 4729 02:40:38,149 --> 02:40:41,149 feel unsafe and they don't 4730 02:40:43,720 --> 02:40:44,588 really return. 4731 02:40:44,588 --> 02:40:45,322 They don't rebook and with all 4732 02:40:45,322 --> 02:40:45,923 these negative experiences they 4733 02:40:45,923 --> 02:40:48,323 share with other people. 4734 02:40:50,227 --> 02:40:50,795 So it's kind of damaging to a 4735 02:40:50,795 --> 02:40:52,795 longstanding business. 4736 02:40:54,197 --> 02:40:54,898 The hotel's been in business 4737 02:40:54,898 --> 02:40:55,599 consistently for 90 years This 4738 02:40:55,599 --> 02:40:57,999 year the condominium residents 4739 02:41:00,504 --> 02:41:01,205 likewise they live with these 4740 02:41:01,205 --> 02:41:01,872 impacts night after night, day 4741 02:41:01,872 --> 02:41:02,506 after day with no ability to 4742 02:41:02,506 --> 02:41:05,506 check out when it becomes 4743 02:41:07,440 --> 02:41:07,745 intolerable. 4744 02:41:07,745 --> 02:41:08,445 Thirdly, this really worsens 4745 02:41:08,445 --> 02:41:11,445 parking and circulation of our 4746 02:41:13,784 --> 02:41:14,417 Annette That's that was two 4747 02:41:14,417 --> 02:41:14,952 minutes Thank you for your 4748 02:41:14,952 --> 02:41:15,652 concluding comment. 4749 02:41:15,652 --> 02:41:16,287 Okay but also I have also had 4750 02:41:16,287 --> 02:41:18,550 the opportunity so you get 4751 02:41:18,550 --> 02:41:18,456 the point. 4752 02:41:18,456 --> 02:41:18,855 Thank you. 4753 02:41:18,855 --> 02:41:19,523 Holly Birch. 4754 02:41:19,523 --> 02:41:19,890 Holly Cherry Thomas you did 4755 02:41:19,890 --> 02:41:21,890 your time. 4756 02:41:23,270 --> 02:41:23,728 Thank you very much. 4757 02:41:23,728 --> 02:41:26,128 You'll have two minutes. 4758 02:41:30,568 --> 02:41:31,134 Please let me know and present 4759 02:41:31,134 --> 02:41:31,802 the hoa at cdc condos. 4760 02:41:31,802 --> 02:41:34,202 I've lived there since 1982. 4761 02:41:35,139 --> 02:41:35,439 The condominiums were built in 4762 02:41:35,439 --> 02:41:37,439 1972. 4763 02:41:40,144 --> 02:41:40,678 We had a card room across 4764 02:41:40,678 --> 02:41:41,412 the street from us. 4765 02:41:41,412 --> 02:41:42,790 25 years later Scott Legere put 4766 02:41:42,790 --> 02:41:45,790 in the Blind Melon 710 bar. 4767 02:41:45,749 --> 02:41:46,216 So as far as who was there 4768 02:41:46,216 --> 02:41:47,510 first it was us. 4769 02:41:47,510 --> 02:41:47,417 By 25 years we had a mediation 4770 02:41:47,417 --> 02:41:49,417 agreement. 4771 02:41:52,356 --> 02:41:53,240 Scott agreed during mediation 4772 02:41:53,240 --> 02:41:53,658 agreement with the judge to 4773 02:41:53,658 --> 02:41:54,257 keep all the doors windows 4774 02:41:54,257 --> 02:41:57,257 closed and the vents and 4775 02:41:57,728 --> 02:41:58,429 install an ac. 4776 02:41:58,429 --> 02:41:59,960 There's no ac that's working. 4777 02:41:59,960 --> 02:41:59,397 Doors and windows are always 4778 02:41:59,397 --> 02:42:01,397 open. 4779 02:42:04,168 --> 02:42:05,360 We are subjected to. 4780 02:42:05,360 --> 02:42:05,735 He also promised that he would 4781 02:42:05,735 --> 02:42:06,370 answer the phone when we would 4782 02:42:06,370 --> 02:42:08,370 call. 4783 02:42:10,174 --> 02:42:10,942 Not only does that not happen 4784 02:42:10,942 --> 02:42:13,878 if you do manage to get through 4785 02:42:13,878 --> 02:42:14,245 you're called every name in 4786 02:42:14,245 --> 02:42:15,460 the book. 4787 02:42:15,460 --> 02:42:16,130 One other thing I want you to 4788 02:42:16,130 --> 02:42:19,490 know is that we have a theme 4789 02:42:19,490 --> 02:42:19,850 song of the 710 bar and this is 4790 02:42:19,850 --> 02:42:24,500 what we get to listen to And 4791 02:42:24,822 --> 02:42:25,790 this is played during the day 4792 02:42:25,790 --> 02:42:26,591 and it's by a guy called f Roll 4793 02:42:26,591 --> 02:42:30,191 Man and it's called Because I 4794 02:42:31,295 --> 02:42:31,596 Got high and this is what we 4795 02:42:31,596 --> 02:42:32,263 hear. 4796 02:42:32,263 --> 02:42:32,896 And so the children can hear 4797 02:42:32,896 --> 02:42:35,296 this in our neighborhood. 4798 02:42:37,402 --> 02:42:37,734 You guys should be able to hear 4799 02:42:37,734 --> 02:42:38,469 it too. 4800 02:42:38,469 --> 02:42:39,137 i could've cheated that I could 4801 02:42:39,137 --> 02:42:39,771 have passed but I got high. 4802 02:42:39,771 --> 02:42:40,271 I was going to go to court 4803 02:42:40,271 --> 02:42:42,507 before I got high. 4804 02:42:42,507 --> 02:42:43,274 I was going to pay my child 4805 02:42:43,274 --> 02:42:43,641 support but when I got there I 4806 02:42:43,641 --> 02:42:44,409 got high. 4807 02:42:44,409 --> 02:42:48,378 I was going to run for the cops 4808 02:42:48,378 --> 02:42:49,380 but I was high. 4809 02:42:49,380 --> 02:42:49,914 I was going to make love to you 4810 02:42:49,914 --> 02:42:50,648 And then I got high. 4811 02:42:50,648 --> 02:42:53,885 I was going to eat your but 4812 02:42:53,885 --> 02:42:54,719 then I got high. 4813 02:42:54,719 --> 02:42:55,720 >> Now I'm jacking off and I 4814 02:42:55,720 --> 02:42:59,757 know why This is what we hear 4815 02:42:59,757 --> 02:43:00,525 every day. 4816 02:43:00,525 --> 02:43:00,958 This theme song great for kids 4817 02:43:00,958 --> 02:43:02,958 and tourists. 4818 02:43:06,497 --> 02:43:06,865 I urge you not to read the sex 4819 02:43:06,865 --> 02:43:07,499 exemption. 4820 02:43:07,499 --> 02:43:09,899 We've been there 25 years 4821 02:43:11,903 --> 02:43:12,604 before them had no problem. 4822 02:43:12,604 --> 02:43:15,400 We're surrounded by bars. 4823 02:43:17,742 --> 02:43:18,116 The hideaway pool house, you 4824 02:43:18,116 --> 02:43:18,910 name it. 4825 02:43:18,910 --> 02:43:19,644 There's only one bar we have a 4826 02:43:19,644 --> 02:43:22,644 problem with and we're actually 4827 02:43:23,381 --> 02:43:24,149 closer to the other bars. 4828 02:43:24,149 --> 02:43:24,783 >> But this is the one That's 4829 02:43:24,783 --> 02:43:25,116 the one that's causing us 4830 02:43:25,116 --> 02:43:27,116 trouble. 4831 02:43:30,200 --> 02:43:30,789 Thank you. 4832 02:43:30,789 --> 02:43:31,156 >> Well, you caught me by 4833 02:43:31,156 --> 02:43:31,889 surprise. 4834 02:43:31,889 --> 02:43:34,289 There are children occasionally 4835 02:43:35,559 --> 02:43:36,600 listening to these council 4836 02:43:36,600 --> 02:43:36,694 meetings as well. 4837 02:43:36,694 --> 02:43:39,694 Please keep that in mind. 4838 02:43:42,834 --> 02:43:43,501 You can make your point. 4839 02:43:43,501 --> 02:43:44,134 Know if I can have 4840 02:43:44,134 --> 02:43:46,134 the following individuals 4841 02:43:47,706 --> 02:43:48,406 please come up to the yellow 4842 02:43:48,406 --> 02:43:49,700 reserved seats Denise Friedman 4843 02:43:49,700 --> 02:43:51,407 and Scott Shepherd Patti 4844 02:43:54,579 --> 02:43:55,413 Gullickson and Craig Ferguson. 4845 02:43:55,413 --> 02:43:56,810 If you can all please come up 4846 02:43:56,810 --> 02:43:59,810 to the yellow reserved seats 4847 02:44:00,850 --> 02:44:00,552 And Denise you can come up to 4848 02:44:00,552 --> 02:44:01,286 the microphone. 4849 02:44:01,286 --> 02:44:01,919 And then I'd also ask as Denise 4850 02:44:01,919 --> 02:44:04,919 makes her way up to 4851 02:44:05,724 --> 02:44:06,391 the microphone if Todd person 4852 02:44:06,391 --> 02:44:07,250 can please come up here to 4853 02:44:07,250 --> 02:44:10,625 the side my staff will be 4854 02:44:11,229 --> 02:44:11,929 speaking with you Todd Pursell 4855 02:44:11,929 --> 02:44:12,264 you'll have one minute Please 4856 02:44:12,264 --> 02:44:12,631 proceed. 4857 02:44:12,631 --> 02:44:13,498 Thank you. 4858 02:44:13,498 --> 02:44:17,980 I am speaking on behalf of 4859 02:44:18,236 --> 02:44:19,203 myself not any organization or 4860 02:44:19,203 --> 02:44:23,403 my title This year in JANUARY I 4861 02:44:24,943 --> 02:44:25,245 chose to have a staycation in 4862 02:44:25,245 --> 02:44:27,245 pb. 4863 02:44:29,848 --> 02:44:30,515 I was awakened late in 4864 02:44:30,515 --> 02:44:30,882 the evening by cheering and 4865 02:44:30,882 --> 02:44:31,583 screaming. 4866 02:44:31,583 --> 02:44:35,183 I dressed went outside to try 4867 02:44:36,530 --> 02:44:36,854 to figure out where this was 4868 02:44:36,854 --> 02:44:40,454 coming from and it was coming 4869 02:44:42,327 --> 02:44:43,610 from 710 I noticed from across 4870 02:44:43,610 --> 02:44:43,728 the street because the sidewalk 4871 02:44:43,728 --> 02:44:44,362 was inaccessible that there 4872 02:44:44,362 --> 02:44:47,962 were a group of people out 4873 02:44:48,933 --> 02:44:49,601 there with buckets of beer As I 4874 02:44:49,601 --> 02:44:52,100 watched the bartender refill 4875 02:44:54,506 --> 02:44:55,207 that bucket of beer that's not 4876 02:44:55,207 --> 02:44:55,974 allowed out on a public street 4877 02:44:55,974 --> 02:44:59,574 having served for years now our 4878 02:45:01,446 --> 02:45:01,752 community caught It's a big no 4879 02:45:01,752 --> 02:45:02,347 no. 4880 02:45:02,347 --> 02:45:04,747 People are ticketed all 4881 02:45:05,384 --> 02:45:06,840 the time Walking out of seven 4882 02:45:06,840 --> 02:45:09,840 the 7-Eleven and popping their 4883 02:45:11,523 --> 02:45:12,224 beer and getting tickets. 4884 02:45:12,224 --> 02:45:12,958 I politely went over and 4885 02:45:12,958 --> 02:45:16,558 advised the young group that it 4886 02:45:17,529 --> 02:45:18,630 was illegal and they should be 4887 02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:18,530 bringing it inside. 4888 02:45:18,530 --> 02:45:19,230 It didn't work. 4889 02:45:19,230 --> 02:45:19,565 Thank you for that concluding 4890 02:45:19,565 --> 02:45:21,565 comment. 4891 02:45:25,670 --> 02:45:29,740 Next is Ask Jay Scott Shopper I 4892 02:45:29,740 --> 02:45:29,340 believe Sam named Kirkman Thank 4893 02:45:29,340 --> 02:45:31,340 you. 4894 02:45:35,314 --> 02:45:35,714 I'm speaking in favor of 4895 02:45:35,714 --> 02:45:36,748 the denial. 4896 02:45:36,748 --> 02:45:39,985 Thank you times Okay, so I'm a 4897 02:45:39,985 --> 02:45:40,719 local attorney For two decades 4898 02:45:40,719 --> 02:45:41,319 I've represented this business. 4899 02:45:41,319 --> 02:45:44,319 It has its own valuable 4900 02:45:46,158 --> 02:45:46,625 property rights that aren't 4901 02:45:46,625 --> 02:45:47,326 being mentioned. 4902 02:45:47,326 --> 02:45:47,993 What we're hearing today is a 4903 02:45:47,993 --> 02:45:48,627 lot of complaints from other 4904 02:45:48,627 --> 02:45:51,270 property owners seeking to 4905 02:45:51,463 --> 02:45:52,131 advance their own property 4906 02:45:52,131 --> 02:45:52,865 interests by shutting down a 4907 02:45:52,865 --> 02:45:53,599 business that operates lawfully 4908 02:45:53,599 --> 02:45:55,999 under an existing entertainment 4909 02:45:58,470 --> 02:45:59,204 permit and pursuant to San 4910 02:45:59,204 --> 02:45:59,938 Diego ordinance regarding noise 4911 02:45:59,938 --> 02:46:00,439 levels, these appellants do not 4912 02:46:00,439 --> 02:46:02,439 really understand 4913 02:46:04,142 --> 02:46:04,809 the application of noise 4914 02:46:04,809 --> 02:46:05,344 ordinance which is one hour 4915 02:46:05,344 --> 02:46:06,780 weighted averaging. 4916 02:46:06,780 --> 02:46:10,278 I was part of the mediation and 4917 02:46:10,316 --> 02:46:11,160 it was found at that time that 4918 02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:11,650 with sound engineers we hired 4919 02:46:11,650 --> 02:46:14,650 that this noise from this 4920 02:46:15,954 --> 02:46:16,454 location does not exceed those 4921 02:46:16,454 --> 02:46:17,560 levels. 4922 02:46:17,560 --> 02:46:17,756 The entertainment permit 4923 02:46:17,756 --> 02:46:18,424 requires them to operate with 4924 02:46:18,424 --> 02:46:21,424 their doors closed in hours 4925 02:46:21,894 --> 02:46:22,594 When they're doing that during 4926 02:46:22,594 --> 02:46:23,295 live entertainment the outdoor 4927 02:46:23,295 --> 02:46:26,895 stuff is just a modest thing. 4928 02:46:27,199 --> 02:46:27,967 This is about a secret review 4929 02:46:27,967 --> 02:46:28,667 And when you look at those 4930 02:46:28,667 --> 02:46:29,335 standards, these complaints do 4931 02:46:29,335 --> 02:46:32,335 not reach what we're dealing 4932 02:46:34,339 --> 02:46:35,740 with This thing has been 4933 02:46:35,740 --> 02:46:35,674 reviewed by the staff through a 4934 02:46:35,674 --> 02:46:36,308 rigorous vetting process 4935 02:46:36,308 --> 02:46:38,308 carefully considered each 4936 02:46:39,245 --> 02:46:39,845 required element It meets 4937 02:46:39,845 --> 02:46:42,245 the criteria including a 4938 02:46:51,957 --> 02:46:52,491 sentence Patty think had to go 4939 02:46:52,491 --> 02:46:54,491 with something else. 4940 02:46:57,362 --> 02:46:58,300 Hello my name's Harry. 4941 02:46:58,300 --> 02:47:01,300 I'm a single mother at 4942 02:47:02,668 --> 02:47:03,502 the Pacific Beach Community. 4943 02:47:03,502 --> 02:47:04,236 I've known Patty and Scott for 4944 02:47:04,236 --> 02:47:08,436 over ten years and they are a 4945 02:47:09,141 --> 02:47:09,708 wonderful part of the community 4946 02:47:09,708 --> 02:47:11,708 and wonderful people. 4947 02:47:14,547 --> 02:47:15,247 They are actually my daughter's 4948 02:47:15,247 --> 02:47:17,647 3004 West and Pacific Beach 4949 02:47:19,752 --> 02:47:20,452 soccer team and they offered me 4950 02:47:20,452 --> 02:47:21,153 graciously offered to sponsor 4951 02:47:21,153 --> 02:47:21,854 my daughter's soccer team and 4952 02:47:21,854 --> 02:47:25,454 then her soccer team is going 4953 02:47:26,892 --> 02:47:27,593 to Spain in JULY And so they 4954 02:47:27,593 --> 02:47:30,593 offered to do some fundraisers 4955 02:47:31,897 --> 02:47:32,431 to help us raise money to get 4956 02:47:32,431 --> 02:47:33,980 her team there. 4957 02:47:33,980 --> 02:47:36,698 And um, I love the patio. 4958 02:47:38,437 --> 02:47:39,380 I go there a couple times a 4959 02:47:39,380 --> 02:47:39,705 month and I really MISS 4960 02:47:39,705 --> 02:47:40,106 The patio and I'm excited to 4961 02:47:40,106 --> 02:47:42,106 get it back. 4962 02:47:44,760 --> 02:47:46,760 Hopefully. 4963 02:47:50,149 --> 02:47:50,815 >> Craig Craig Borges Honey. 4964 02:47:50,815 --> 02:47:51,183 Wonderful job for dancing My 4965 02:47:51,183 --> 02:47:53,183 last name. 4966 02:47:56,522 --> 02:47:57,223 Thank you. 4967 02:47:57,223 --> 02:47:59,623 Council members per McCarver. 4968 02:48:01,761 --> 02:48:02,428 I MAY quote Star Trek. 4969 02:48:02,428 --> 02:48:03,129 Spock once said the needs of 4970 02:48:03,129 --> 02:48:06,729 the many outweigh the needs of 4971 02:48:08,300 --> 02:48:09,101 the few. 4972 02:48:09,101 --> 02:48:09,702 And I feel that's what we're 4973 02:48:09,702 --> 02:48:10,403 experiencing here today. 4974 02:48:10,403 --> 02:48:13,403 25 years I've been in Pacific 4975 02:48:13,506 --> 02:48:14,139 Beach and I've watched I 4976 02:48:14,139 --> 02:48:14,807 believe what you guys have 4977 02:48:14,807 --> 02:48:17,807 blessed for bringing lots of 4978 02:48:20,790 --> 02:48:20,746 people to my beach via the tv 4979 02:48:20,746 --> 02:48:23,746 spots I see they're working 4980 02:48:25,551 --> 02:48:25,885 qualitatively I can say they're 4981 02:48:25,885 --> 02:48:26,719 working. 4982 02:48:26,719 --> 02:48:27,353 And it upsets me to see that 4983 02:48:27,353 --> 02:48:28,200 the local beach businesses 4984 02:48:28,200 --> 02:48:30,420 especially Salmon Beach Club 4985 02:48:31,958 --> 02:48:32,558 cannot scale to meet this 4986 02:48:32,558 --> 02:48:35,558 demand that you guys are 4987 02:48:37,564 --> 02:48:37,864 bringing to our beautiful beach 4988 02:48:37,864 --> 02:48:38,564 . 4989 02:48:38,564 --> 02:48:39,399 They do a wonderful job. 4990 02:48:39,399 --> 02:48:39,832 What they do is give back to 4991 02:48:39,832 --> 02:48:41,832 the community. 4992 02:48:43,969 --> 02:48:44,670 So I'm here to say I believe in 4993 02:48:44,670 --> 02:48:47,700 the recommendation to deny 4994 02:48:49,108 --> 02:48:50,430 the appeal. 4995 02:48:50,430 --> 02:48:53,643 Todd Purcell After that will be 4996 02:48:56,150 --> 02:48:59,150 Sandra Lim Color on color. 4997 02:49:01,254 --> 02:49:01,888 I think I just lost my good 4998 02:49:01,888 --> 02:49:04,288 pronunciation and missed a 4999 02:49:08,361 --> 02:49:08,698 sweet f w e t George Sweet i 5000 02:49:08,698 --> 02:49:09,329 believe. 5001 02:49:09,329 --> 02:49:10,290 And I'm Blair Big Ben Bob 5002 02:49:10,290 --> 02:49:10,597 because you ski If you can all 5003 02:49:10,597 --> 02:49:12,997 please come forward to 5004 02:49:13,733 --> 02:49:14,660 the other reserve seats please 5005 02:49:14,660 --> 02:49:14,567 proceed. 5006 02:49:14,567 --> 02:49:15,201 >> Good afternoon. 5007 02:49:15,201 --> 02:49:18,201 Thank you for being here. 5008 02:49:18,838 --> 02:49:19,605 My name is Todd Pearsall. 5009 02:49:19,605 --> 02:49:20,206 I moved to our wonderful city 5010 02:49:20,206 --> 02:49:22,206 in 1988 from Wisconsin. 5011 02:49:25,444 --> 02:49:26,312 I came here to play rugby with 5012 02:49:26,312 --> 02:49:26,979 on back and then I went to 5013 02:49:26,979 --> 02:49:27,247 California Western School of 5014 02:49:27,247 --> 02:49:29,247 Law. 5015 02:49:30,417 --> 02:49:31,284 I'm a 64 year old attorney. 5016 02:49:31,284 --> 02:49:35,484 I do like going around having a 5017 02:49:36,890 --> 02:49:36,823 refreshment in the sun and I 5018 02:49:36,823 --> 02:49:37,890 hope you will grant this a st 5019 02:49:37,890 --> 02:49:38,900 re. 5020 02:49:38,900 --> 02:49:42,290 But let me tell you how good 5021 02:49:42,529 --> 02:49:43,329 Scott is. 5022 02:49:43,329 --> 02:49:43,730 32 years ago I had a small 5023 02:49:43,730 --> 02:49:45,730 packer bar. 5024 02:49:47,934 --> 02:49:48,701 We had a Toys for Tots drive 5025 02:49:48,701 --> 02:49:49,669 and after we delivered our toys 5026 02:49:49,669 --> 02:49:53,739 to the fire department in p b I 5027 02:49:53,739 --> 02:49:57,339 stopped by on a little sunny 5028 02:49:59,112 --> 02:49:59,813 tour of pb the 710 Club which 5029 02:49:59,813 --> 02:50:00,480 was blind melons and told him 5030 02:50:00,480 --> 02:50:01,470 what I did and he said We'd 5031 02:50:01,470 --> 02:50:04,584 like to be part of it. 5032 02:50:04,584 --> 02:50:07,584 For the last 31 years blind 5033 02:50:09,756 --> 02:50:10,456 melons and or the 710 Club as 5034 02:50:10,456 --> 02:50:11,190 it's called has been part of 5035 02:50:11,190 --> 02:50:15,390 this Toys for Tots Drive that I 5036 02:50:15,962 --> 02:50:16,396 have ran in in the city in pb 5037 02:50:16,396 --> 02:50:17,130 at 12 bars. 5038 02:50:17,130 --> 02:50:20,130 We need a 40 foot truck. 5039 02:50:21,568 --> 02:50:22,334 The boys get eight grand a year 5040 02:50:22,334 --> 02:50:25,334 Santa a great things come 5041 02:50:26,306 --> 02:50:26,939 forward First of all PRESIDENT 5042 02:50:26,939 --> 02:50:27,574 LaCava and council members 5043 02:50:27,574 --> 02:50:31,174 thank you for what you do. 5044 02:50:31,911 --> 02:50:32,245 I'm amazed by this whole 5045 02:50:32,245 --> 02:50:32,612 process. 5046 02:50:32,612 --> 02:50:33,346 Thank you. 5047 02:50:33,346 --> 02:50:37,546 I really want to say I don't 5048 02:50:37,884 --> 02:50:38,351 think you guys get paid enough 5049 02:50:38,351 --> 02:50:39,520 so thank you. 5050 02:50:39,520 --> 02:50:39,653 However this turns out, I'm 5051 02:50:39,653 --> 02:50:42,530 amazed by this process. 5052 02:50:44,390 --> 02:50:44,925 I wanted to introduce myself. 5053 02:50:44,925 --> 02:50:45,325 My name is Sandy. 5054 02:50:45,325 --> 02:50:46,159 One cooler. 5055 02:50:46,159 --> 02:50:49,759 I was the founder of Warrior 5056 02:50:49,763 --> 02:50:50,363 Foundation Freedom Station 5057 02:50:50,363 --> 02:50:50,997 which is right here in 5058 02:50:50,997 --> 02:50:52,997 COUNCILMAN Whitman's area. 5059 02:50:55,935 --> 02:50:56,636 I have resigned last year to 5060 02:50:56,636 --> 02:50:57,337 move on to a more focused 5061 02:50:57,337 --> 02:50:59,737 nonprofit called Freedom Ranch 5062 02:51:02,900 --> 02:51:02,843 Veterans Foundation. 5063 02:51:02,843 --> 02:51:03,343 I know we're not here to talk 5064 02:51:03,343 --> 02:51:03,976 about nonprofits. 5065 02:51:03,976 --> 02:51:07,981 I want to tell you about a 5066 02:51:07,981 --> 02:51:08,848 gentleman who is a businessman 5067 02:51:08,848 --> 02:51:09,216 and he is a pillar of our 5068 02:51:09,216 --> 02:51:09,849 community. 5069 02:51:09,849 --> 02:51:12,849 His name is Scott Slager. 5070 02:51:14,454 --> 02:51:15,220 Scott's from Chicago. 5071 02:51:15,220 --> 02:51:15,722 I'm from Chicago. 5072 02:51:15,722 --> 02:51:16,230 We're both various brands yada 5073 02:51:16,230 --> 02:51:16,323 yada. 5074 02:51:16,323 --> 02:51:18,323 Okay. 5075 02:51:19,590 --> 02:51:19,659 I wanted to share with you that 5076 02:51:19,659 --> 02:51:20,526 I met him in 2015. 5077 02:51:20,526 --> 02:51:24,664 He called me up, did not know 5078 02:51:24,664 --> 02:51:25,399 who I was and said I want to 5079 02:51:25,399 --> 02:51:26,990 help the military in San Diego. 5080 02:51:26,990 --> 02:51:29,699 >> I want to help the military 5081 02:51:31,237 --> 02:51:31,839 in Camp Pendleton. 5082 02:51:31,839 --> 02:51:32,506 >> That was quick. 5083 02:51:32,506 --> 02:51:35,506 Thank you for your comments. 5084 02:51:37,744 --> 02:51:38,445 Allow our warriors George 5085 02:51:38,445 --> 02:51:38,979 Siegel to thank you for that 5086 02:51:38,979 --> 02:51:40,979 concluding comment. 5087 02:51:41,215 --> 02:51:41,648 George Sweet They fit in an 5088 02:51:41,648 --> 02:51:43,648 outdoor area. 5089 02:51:47,988 --> 02:51:48,956 Thank you. 5090 02:51:48,956 --> 02:51:49,823 After George we will be able to 5091 02:51:49,823 --> 02:51:53,227 be Kevin and Bob because you 5092 02:51:53,227 --> 02:51:54,940 ski If you can please come 5093 02:51:54,940 --> 02:51:58,294 forward to the front row to be 5094 02:52:23,290 --> 02:52:23,958 ready if you damage association 5095 02:52:23,958 --> 02:52:24,558 My job with the food and 5096 02:52:24,558 --> 02:52:26,558 beverages and training. 5097 02:52:28,896 --> 02:52:29,196 I've known Scott for about 15 5098 02:52:29,196 --> 02:52:31,196 years. 5099 02:52:33,900 --> 02:52:34,535 He asked me to come down 5100 02:52:34,535 --> 02:52:36,935 introduce people every six 5101 02:52:40,740 --> 02:52:40,841 months for security. 5102 02:52:40,841 --> 02:52:44,441 We send people here to monitor 5103 02:52:45,446 --> 02:52:46,247 the activities of the employees 5104 02:52:46,247 --> 02:52:46,947 to make sure everybody is doing 5105 02:52:46,947 --> 02:52:47,248 the job that they're supposed 5106 02:52:47,248 --> 02:52:49,248 to do. 5107 02:52:51,752 --> 02:52:52,219 The third item on the training 5108 02:52:52,219 --> 02:52:54,219 list is Windows. 5109 02:52:58,292 --> 02:52:58,960 When the ban is placed 5110 02:52:58,960 --> 02:53:02,560 the windows are to be closed 5111 02:53:03,330 --> 02:53:03,865 When there is no music that 5112 02:53:03,865 --> 02:53:06,265 windows can be open. 5113 02:53:12,600 --> 02:53:12,313 Scott is very strict with those 5114 02:53:12,313 --> 02:53:13,174 . 5115 02:53:13,174 --> 02:53:16,774 I think the people that are 5116 02:53:19,747 --> 02:53:20,481 complaining that you guys don't 5117 02:53:20,481 --> 02:53:23,481 know what they're talking about 5118 02:53:26,620 --> 02:53:26,954 Thank you for that concluding 5119 02:53:26,954 --> 02:53:27,388 comment. 5120 02:53:27,388 --> 02:53:28,550 Blair Beekman. 5121 02:53:28,550 --> 02:53:30,455 After Blair McManus started 5122 02:53:36,497 --> 02:53:37,300 came. 5123 02:53:37,300 --> 02:53:37,631 All right. 5124 02:53:37,631 --> 02:53:38,432 Thank you Blair Beekman. 5125 02:53:38,432 --> 02:53:41,432 I'm working neutral on this 5126 02:53:42,303 --> 02:53:43,270 item. 5127 02:53:43,270 --> 02:53:46,870 With the sport field issues in 5128 02:53:48,442 --> 02:53:49,143 the Gilmore area a few months 5129 02:53:49,143 --> 02:53:49,810 ago now I was hoping City 5130 02:53:49,810 --> 02:53:52,810 Council could take a more 5131 02:53:54,715 --> 02:53:55,316 active role in how 5132 02:53:55,316 --> 02:53:55,917 the corporate entity and 5133 02:53:55,917 --> 02:53:56,484 the community could work 5134 02:53:56,484 --> 02:53:58,884 together on the item. 5135 02:54:01,155 --> 02:54:01,522 I hope they can do that for 5136 02:54:01,522 --> 02:54:03,522 this item. 5137 02:54:06,160 --> 02:54:06,928 I want to try to be friendly to 5138 02:54:06,928 --> 02:54:07,895 all sides And is it possible 5139 02:54:07,895 --> 02:54:12,950 that if this project was to go 5140 02:54:12,133 --> 02:54:12,699 through that there could be new 5141 02:54:12,699 --> 02:54:13,434 adjustments, acoustic 5142 02:54:13,434 --> 02:54:16,434 adjustments to really make sure 5143 02:54:18,720 --> 02:54:18,773 and overall efforts to 5144 02:54:18,773 --> 02:54:19,440 coordinate with the owners of 5145 02:54:19,440 --> 02:54:20,141 the bar can be respectful to 5146 02:54:20,141 --> 02:54:23,741 the community and there can be 5147 02:54:24,578 --> 02:54:25,246 dialog continual dialog and you 5148 02:54:25,246 --> 02:54:25,947 know what's working well and 5149 02:54:25,947 --> 02:54:28,947 what can be improved changed 5150 02:54:30,184 --> 02:54:31,520 upon. 5151 02:54:31,520 --> 02:54:31,786 >> Can this turn into an active 5152 02:54:31,786 --> 02:54:32,319 conversation of working towards 5153 02:54:32,319 --> 02:54:34,319 things for everyone? 5154 02:54:35,560 --> 02:54:36,240 Thank you. 5155 02:54:36,240 --> 02:54:39,240 >> Thank you Bob Because this 5156 02:54:42,896 --> 02:54:43,297 came item two or what's been 5157 02:54:43,297 --> 02:54:45,297 called yet. 5158 02:54:48,202 --> 02:54:48,502 I'll defer my comments to a 5159 02:54:48,502 --> 02:54:48,869 while. 5160 02:54:48,869 --> 02:54:49,237 Thank you. 5161 02:54:49,237 --> 02:54:51,237 Thank you. 5162 02:54:51,839 --> 02:54:52,373 I've started the five minute 5163 02:54:52,373 --> 02:54:52,974 timer going to those 5164 02:54:52,974 --> 02:54:53,540 participating remotely. 5165 02:54:53,540 --> 02:54:56,540 We have four people in 5166 02:54:57,312 --> 02:54:57,946 the queue as one minute each 5167 02:54:57,946 --> 02:54:58,679 starting with the original 5168 02:54:58,679 --> 02:54:59,179 after the original as Chris dug 5169 02:54:59,179 --> 02:54:59,547 into the original. 5170 02:54:59,547 --> 02:54:59,881 >> Please. 5171 02:54:59,881 --> 02:55:01,881 I'm you. 5172 02:55:02,616 --> 02:55:03,318 Oh ironic is it that this woman 5173 02:55:03,318 --> 02:55:06,318 you know sharing the words 5174 02:55:09,357 --> 02:55:10,240 lyrics of a song that is being 5175 02:55:10,240 --> 02:55:10,692 played at that place is you 5176 02:55:10,692 --> 02:55:13,920 know detrimental to children 5177 02:55:16,264 --> 02:55:16,998 that you only hear about it in 5178 02:55:16,998 --> 02:55:17,732 the chambers but you don't seem 5179 02:55:17,732 --> 02:55:20,501 to be caring that I think it 5180 02:55:20,501 --> 02:55:21,169 enough for are concerned about 5181 02:55:21,169 --> 02:55:21,970 that It's interesting to see 5182 02:55:21,970 --> 02:55:25,570 what you guys do with your 5183 02:55:26,674 --> 02:55:27,375 exemptions and you know when 5184 02:55:27,375 --> 02:55:28,760 some are used at once when 5185 02:55:28,760 --> 02:55:31,760 you're planning that you want 5186 02:55:31,846 --> 02:55:32,614 to do all this environmental 5187 02:55:32,614 --> 02:55:33,314 stuff It's all of these three 5188 02:55:33,314 --> 02:55:33,981 series of things that you guys 5189 02:55:33,981 --> 02:55:36,381 brought forward during covid 5190 02:55:38,186 --> 02:55:38,920 the regulations that policy 5191 02:55:38,920 --> 02:55:42,520 regarding that the changed on a 5192 02:55:43,391 --> 02:55:44,920 revolving door basis And so 5193 02:55:44,920 --> 02:55:44,758 like when they were first 5194 02:55:44,758 --> 02:55:45,493 implemented they had to be a 5195 02:55:45,493 --> 02:55:48,563 certain way had to have certain 5196 02:55:48,563 --> 02:55:49,264 awning and then all the so that 5197 02:55:49,264 --> 02:55:49,931 was like all that changed And 5198 02:55:49,931 --> 02:55:50,497 so the people had to go into 5199 02:55:50,497 --> 02:55:53,497 pay to take that away. 5200 02:55:54,869 --> 02:55:55,670 So it's just a bunch of 5201 02:55:55,670 --> 02:55:56,337 nonsense that you guys do with 5202 02:55:56,337 --> 02:55:57,380 this You kind to make people 5203 02:55:57,380 --> 02:55:57,772 jump through hoops but I think 5204 02:55:57,772 --> 02:56:01,750 you need to be listening to 5205 02:56:01,750 --> 02:56:01,809 the people who have lived 5206 02:56:01,809 --> 02:56:02,544 experience in that community of 5207 02:56:02,544 --> 02:56:02,810 what they're experiencing right 5208 02:56:02,810 --> 02:56:04,810 now. 5209 02:56:05,680 --> 02:56:06,800 But obviously for the pass 5210 02:56:06,800 --> 02:56:07,140 Thank you. 5211 02:56:07,140 --> 02:56:07,916 Next is Chris Duggan if you can 5212 02:56:07,916 --> 02:56:11,516 please on mute after that is 5213 02:56:12,721 --> 02:56:13,188 done stop. 5214 02:56:13,188 --> 02:56:13,788 Good afternoon. 5215 02:56:13,788 --> 02:56:14,356 Chris Dugan representing 5216 02:56:14,356 --> 02:56:16,356 California Restaurant 5217 02:56:17,392 --> 02:56:18,260 Association To you come before 5218 02:56:18,260 --> 02:56:18,559 you today to express your 5219 02:56:18,559 --> 02:56:19,227 cynical support for 5220 02:56:19,227 --> 02:56:22,227 the proposed greenery and to 5221 02:56:23,898 --> 02:56:24,533 respectfully request 5222 02:56:24,533 --> 02:56:25,990 the Council support staff 5223 02:56:25,990 --> 02:56:25,667 recommendation ignited 5224 02:56:25,667 --> 02:56:26,334 the appeal before you. 5225 02:56:26,334 --> 02:56:29,334 First, it's hard to believe 5226 02:56:29,503 --> 02:56:30,710 that nearly six years have 5227 02:56:30,710 --> 02:56:30,706 passed since schools, 5228 02:56:30,706 --> 02:56:31,339 businesses and governments 5229 02:56:31,339 --> 02:56:34,339 closed their doors due to 5230 02:56:34,779 --> 02:56:35,410 the global pandemic. 5231 02:56:35,410 --> 02:56:36,144 However, immediately with 5232 02:56:36,144 --> 02:56:36,878 the help of the City council we 5233 02:56:36,878 --> 02:56:40,478 came together to figure out how 5234 02:56:41,249 --> 02:56:41,749 we could stay open and that we 5235 02:56:41,749 --> 02:56:42,317 spaces as places. 5236 02:56:42,317 --> 02:56:42,884 So thank you and what 5237 02:56:42,884 --> 02:56:43,318 the pandemic MAY be in 5238 02:56:43,318 --> 02:56:45,318 the rearview. 5239 02:56:47,456 --> 02:56:48,156 The road to restaurant recovery 5240 02:56:48,156 --> 02:56:48,890 continues in the importance of 5241 02:56:48,890 --> 02:56:51,290 expanded outdoor dining remains 5242 02:56:53,295 --> 02:56:53,962 critical especially for a 5243 02:56:53,962 --> 02:56:54,796 project like 17 Beach Club. 5244 02:56:54,796 --> 02:56:58,996 So therefore I'm glad to see in 5245 02:56:59,340 --> 02:56:59,634 San Diego we respectfully 5246 02:56:59,634 --> 02:57:00,368 request the Council deny 5247 02:57:00,368 --> 02:57:03,968 the appeal before you and allow 5248 02:57:04,772 --> 02:57:05,273 this project to continue. 5249 02:57:05,273 --> 02:57:05,640 Thank you. 5250 02:57:05,640 --> 02:57:06,508 Thank you. 5251 02:57:06,508 --> 02:57:10,579 Next is John Stump if you can 5252 02:57:10,579 --> 02:57:11,246 believe him you. 5253 02:57:11,246 --> 02:57:13,246 >> Hello, John Stump. 5254 02:57:16,518 --> 02:57:19,518 I wanted to observe this 5255 02:57:21,790 --> 02:57:22,491 process in this process to novo 5256 02:57:22,491 --> 02:57:24,891 because I'm considering filing 5257 02:57:27,396 --> 02:57:28,129 an appeal myself on 5258 02:57:28,129 --> 02:57:28,830 the environmental determination 5259 02:57:28,830 --> 02:57:32,430 about using the parking lot in 5260 02:57:34,436 --> 02:57:37,436 Los Pesquisas Reserve as a 5261 02:57:39,241 --> 02:57:40,275 heliport. 5262 02:57:40,275 --> 02:57:44,475 This is the staff has made it 5263 02:57:45,680 --> 02:57:46,348 environmental determination 5264 02:57:46,348 --> 02:57:49,348 that this project is exempt 5265 02:57:50,886 --> 02:57:51,854 from cta under exemption 32. 5266 02:57:51,854 --> 02:57:54,854 It's not whether you grant 5267 02:57:56,925 --> 02:57:59,325 the appeal or not. 5268 02:58:03,331 --> 02:58:03,999 It's not over because after 5269 02:58:03,999 --> 02:58:04,599 this they still have to get 5270 02:58:04,599 --> 02:58:06,999 permits and after this 5271 02:58:08,670 --> 02:58:09,337 the community might decide to 5272 02:58:09,337 --> 02:58:11,737 file an environmental suit. 5273 02:58:14,760 --> 02:58:14,443 This has taken six months to 5274 02:58:14,443 --> 02:58:15,110 get here. 5275 02:58:15,110 --> 02:58:15,878 >> Think about that when you 5276 02:58:15,878 --> 02:58:18,878 talk about you For that 5277 02:58:20,482 --> 02:58:21,830 concluding comment. 5278 02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:21,850 >> Next is 8700. 5279 02:58:21,850 --> 02:58:25,450 If you complete them you after 5280 02:58:25,788 --> 02:58:28,188 that will be Shiela 8700. 5281 02:58:28,524 --> 02:58:29,240 Sorry I had to postpone 8700 5282 02:58:29,240 --> 02:58:31,240 You you know. 5283 02:58:35,697 --> 02:58:36,432 Thank you, Jason. 5284 02:58:36,432 --> 02:58:37,320 You had a 53 letter. 5285 02:58:37,320 --> 02:58:39,432 I agree with you. 5286 02:58:41,169 --> 02:58:45,369 I beautiful words Yet I do want 5287 02:58:46,275 --> 02:58:47,900 to say this from my perspective 5288 02:58:47,900 --> 02:58:50,900 The exemption from sequel based 5289 02:58:51,480 --> 02:58:52,181 on the staff finding stand it 5290 02:58:52,181 --> 02:58:55,781 stands And I listened to you 5291 02:58:56,886 --> 02:58:57,953 MR. Stump and while on and on 5292 02:58:57,953 --> 02:59:02,753 it goes I want to speak out to 5293 02:59:03,492 --> 02:59:04,293 demand that owns the bar 5294 02:59:04,293 --> 02:59:08,263 because I want to tell him that 5295 02:59:08,263 --> 02:59:08,597 I love him and I love the condo 5296 02:59:08,597 --> 02:59:09,431 owners. 5297 02:59:09,431 --> 02:59:13,869 I love both of you and this is 5298 02:59:13,869 --> 02:59:14,570 a family And why the dialog 5299 02:59:14,570 --> 02:59:15,237 didn't happen earlier and you 5300 02:59:15,237 --> 02:59:15,604 somehow found a way to work 5301 02:59:15,604 --> 02:59:17,604 this out. 5302 02:59:19,808 --> 02:59:20,576 I do not know. 5303 02:59:20,576 --> 02:59:21,900 I hope the bar did honor 5304 02:59:21,900 --> 02:59:21,777 the mediation. 5305 02:59:21,777 --> 02:59:25,377 It sounds like there was an 5306 02:59:25,548 --> 02:59:26,181 attempt to do that and maybe it 5307 02:59:26,181 --> 02:59:26,715 kind of got bumpy and they 5308 02:59:26,715 --> 02:59:29,115 failed a little bit. 5309 02:59:30,753 --> 02:59:31,520 I don't know. 5310 02:59:31,520 --> 02:59:32,288 But the bar owner I want to 5311 02:59:32,288 --> 02:59:36,488 tell you how sorry I am for 5312 02:59:36,792 --> 02:59:37,459 your struggles during the covid 5313 02:59:37,459 --> 02:59:39,859 crisis, concluded Shiela, if 5314 02:59:42,197 --> 02:59:42,697 you can please and you. 5315 02:59:42,697 --> 02:59:43,132 >> Hi. 5316 02:59:43,132 --> 02:59:43,933 Good evening. 5317 02:59:43,933 --> 02:59:44,566 My name is Shiela Hills and I'm 5318 02:59:44,566 --> 02:59:46,966 the PRESIDENT At Discover 5319 02:59:48,437 --> 02:59:49,137 Pacific Beach in favor of 5320 02:59:49,137 --> 02:59:49,605 the staff's recommendation to 5321 02:59:49,605 --> 02:59:51,605 deny the appeal. 5322 02:59:52,275 --> 02:59:52,941 Discover pd represents 5323 02:59:52,941 --> 02:59:53,642 the collective interests of 5324 02:59:53,642 --> 02:59:54,900 the business community in our 5325 02:59:54,900 --> 02:59:54,710 district. 5326 02:59:54,710 --> 02:59:57,847 Our board is made up of local 5327 02:59:57,847 --> 02:59:58,514 business owners who care deeply 5328 02:59:58,514 --> 02:59:59,115 about the future of Pacific 5329 02:59:59,115 --> 02:59:59,815 Beach and the success of 5330 02:59:59,815 --> 03:00:02,815 the businesses that help make 5331 03:00:03,319 --> 03:00:04,870 this neighborhood vibrant. 5332 03:00:04,870 --> 03:00:06,487 Our board supports outdoor 5333 03:00:08,423 --> 03:00:09,124 dining including 710 Beach Club 5334 03:00:09,124 --> 03:00:09,791 Street three because it helps 5335 03:00:09,791 --> 03:00:12,191 create the active welcoming 5336 03:00:14,229 --> 03:00:14,897 environment that residents and 5337 03:00:14,897 --> 03:00:15,397 visitors expect in a coastal 5338 03:00:15,397 --> 03:00:17,397 destination like. 5339 03:00:18,900 --> 03:00:19,502 Speaking personally I am and pb 5340 03:00:19,502 --> 03:00:20,170 most evenings along with 5341 03:00:20,170 --> 03:00:20,837 members of my staff and over 5342 03:00:20,837 --> 03:00:21,537 the past four years we have 5343 03:00:21,537 --> 03:00:24,537 never observed anything out of 5344 03:00:25,140 --> 03:00:25,775 control or even remotely too 5345 03:00:25,775 --> 03:00:26,141 loud associated with this 5346 03:00:26,141 --> 03:00:26,776 location. 5347 03:00:26,776 --> 03:00:29,776 I have served in community 5348 03:00:29,946 --> 03:00:30,613 court for over a year now and 5349 03:00:30,613 --> 03:00:31,214 I've never heard from anyone 5350 03:00:31,214 --> 03:00:34,149 with a citation for open 5351 03:00:34,149 --> 03:00:34,450 container from a 710 beach 5352 03:00:34,450 --> 03:00:35,118 club. 5353 03:00:35,118 --> 03:00:35,518 But do see this from other 5354 03:00:35,518 --> 03:00:37,518 businesses. 5355 03:00:39,888 --> 03:00:40,189 Parking has also been addressed 5356 03:00:40,189 --> 03:00:40,857 . 5357 03:00:40,857 --> 03:00:41,524 Additional parking has been 5358 03:00:41,524 --> 03:00:42,225 added and 710 Beach Club has 5359 03:00:42,225 --> 03:00:45,225 even worked to reserve parking 5360 03:00:47,296 --> 03:00:47,864 for customers to move vehicles. 5361 03:00:47,864 --> 03:00:48,563 History has concluded. 5362 03:00:48,563 --> 03:00:49,165 I will also note that the fact 5363 03:00:49,165 --> 03:00:51,768 that the timer has also 5364 03:00:51,768 --> 03:00:52,435 concluded there eight speakers 5365 03:00:52,435 --> 03:00:53,169 in the queue when that timer 5366 03:00:53,169 --> 03:00:53,603 went off no additional speakers 5367 03:00:53,603 --> 03:00:55,603 will be taken. 5368 03:00:57,373 --> 03:00:58,274 Starting with Sonny or next 5369 03:00:58,274 --> 03:01:01,874 because Sonny after that is go 5370 03:01:02,712 --> 03:01:03,412 through hellos. 5371 03:01:03,412 --> 03:01:04,800 >> Suddenly here executive 5372 03:01:04,800 --> 03:01:06,480 director of Discover Pacific 5373 03:01:07,450 --> 03:01:07,983 Beach where the Business 5374 03:01:07,983 --> 03:01:08,685 Improvement District 5375 03:01:08,685 --> 03:01:09,385 representing businesses in pb 5376 03:01:09,385 --> 03:01:12,985 and our mission is to support 5377 03:01:13,220 --> 03:01:13,622 our business community by 5378 03:01:13,622 --> 03:01:14,257 helping create a vibrant 5379 03:01:14,257 --> 03:01:16,257 welcoming environment for 5380 03:01:18,194 --> 03:01:18,962 residents and visitors. 5381 03:01:18,962 --> 03:01:19,662 Outdoor dining areas are an 5382 03:01:19,662 --> 03:01:20,329 important part of that vision 5383 03:01:20,329 --> 03:01:23,329 and they allow our small 5384 03:01:23,899 --> 03:01:24,500 businesses to activate our 5385 03:01:24,500 --> 03:01:25,200 public spaces and create 5386 03:01:25,200 --> 03:01:28,200 the kind of lively experience 5387 03:01:30,600 --> 03:01:30,339 that makes Pacific Beach 5388 03:01:30,339 --> 03:01:31,740 special. 5389 03:01:31,740 --> 03:01:34,430 Discover pd supports the Street 5390 03:01:34,430 --> 03:01:34,743 strategy at 710 Beach Club and 5391 03:01:34,743 --> 03:01:35,344 the broader concept of outdoor 5392 03:01:35,344 --> 03:01:35,914 dining in our district. 5393 03:01:35,914 --> 03:01:39,514 I will say it has been 5394 03:01:39,516 --> 03:01:40,217 challenging for many of our 5395 03:01:40,217 --> 03:01:40,917 businesses to go through this 5396 03:01:40,917 --> 03:01:43,917 process and we appreciate them 5397 03:01:44,954 --> 03:01:45,622 In turn for fighting the fight 5398 03:01:45,622 --> 03:01:49,222 to get that street a report 5399 03:01:49,426 --> 03:01:50,126 that in my experience as well 5400 03:01:50,126 --> 03:01:52,526 frequently businesses here in 5401 03:01:53,496 --> 03:01:54,430 Pacific Beach I never have been 5402 03:01:54,430 --> 03:01:55,980 to 710 and seen it as loud as 5403 03:01:55,980 --> 03:01:58,980 it has been described today. 5404 03:01:59,269 --> 03:01:59,535 So that was definitely news to 5405 03:01:59,535 --> 03:01:59,970 me. 5406 03:01:59,970 --> 03:02:01,970 >> Thank you. 5407 03:02:04,774 --> 03:02:05,308 Next is Guthrie Leonard, if you 5408 03:02:05,308 --> 03:02:05,575 can please on mute. 5409 03:02:05,575 --> 03:02:06,420 Hi. 5410 03:02:06,420 --> 03:02:06,309 Can you hear me? 5411 03:02:06,309 --> 03:02:06,776 Yes. 5412 03:02:06,776 --> 03:02:08,776 Please proceed. 5413 03:02:09,778 --> 03:02:10,547 Hi. 5414 03:02:10,547 --> 03:02:11,247 I'm really here to speak on 5415 03:02:11,247 --> 03:02:12,182 item 2a1 but I just wanted to 5416 03:02:12,182 --> 03:02:15,118 come in here and say I totally 5417 03:02:15,118 --> 03:02:15,818 understand. 5418 03:02:15,818 --> 03:02:16,418 I hate noise interruptions. 5419 03:02:16,418 --> 03:02:17,320 That's been a really big 5420 03:02:17,320 --> 03:02:20,724 problem in places I've lived in 5421 03:02:20,724 --> 03:02:21,423 the past But I really do think 5422 03:02:21,423 --> 03:02:25,230 this is a textbook example of 5423 03:02:25,361 --> 03:02:26,229 Scott being an antiquated law. 5424 03:02:26,229 --> 03:02:29,229 It should not take $100,000 and 5425 03:02:31,801 --> 03:02:32,402 a year to put up fences around 5426 03:02:32,402 --> 03:02:32,836 some tables and a couple 5427 03:02:32,836 --> 03:02:34,836 parking spots. 5428 03:02:36,439 --> 03:02:37,107 It sounds like most of 5429 03:02:37,107 --> 03:02:37,840 the people complaining about 5430 03:02:37,840 --> 03:02:41,440 this project really just have a 5431 03:02:42,780 --> 03:02:42,712 problem with the bar and not 5432 03:02:42,712 --> 03:02:43,446 the street or in general. 5433 03:02:43,446 --> 03:02:46,849 And so I really don't think 5434 03:02:46,849 --> 03:02:47,250 there's any grounds to allow 5435 03:02:47,250 --> 03:02:47,751 this appeal. 5436 03:02:47,751 --> 03:02:48,118 >> Please tonight. 5437 03:02:48,118 --> 03:02:50,118 Thank you. 5438 03:02:52,823 --> 03:02:53,523 Next zoom if you complete a 5439 03:02:53,523 --> 03:02:54,290 zoom user please on mute after 5440 03:02:54,290 --> 03:02:57,290 that is live concert please 5441 03:02:57,594 --> 03:02:58,261 proceed. 5442 03:02:58,261 --> 03:02:58,795 Hi, this is Hector. 5443 03:02:58,795 --> 03:03:00,795 I'm not commenting. 5444 03:03:01,198 --> 03:03:01,732 I'm like a 72 year old guy with 5445 03:03:01,732 --> 03:03:04,132 a big beach cruiser. 5446 03:03:06,803 --> 03:03:07,537 I would consider myself an 5447 03:03:07,537 --> 03:03:08,271 endangered species because when 5448 03:03:08,271 --> 03:03:11,675 I go down there at night 5449 03:03:11,675 --> 03:03:12,376 cruising on the boardwalk and 5450 03:03:12,376 --> 03:03:15,376 there's drunk people it's kind 5451 03:03:16,513 --> 03:03:16,813 of a little dangerous sometimes 5452 03:03:16,813 --> 03:03:17,614 . 5453 03:03:17,614 --> 03:03:18,381 But I would say the guys should 5454 03:03:18,381 --> 03:03:21,118 put this area up on the roof 5455 03:03:21,118 --> 03:03:21,818 and restore the parking spaces 5456 03:03:21,818 --> 03:03:25,418 and the sidewalk is a normal 5457 03:03:26,423 --> 03:03:26,757 sidewalk for the general 5458 03:03:26,757 --> 03:03:28,757 public. 5459 03:03:32,462 --> 03:03:33,530 Thank you, Leif. 5460 03:03:33,530 --> 03:03:37,730 Oh, I have if you can please 5461 03:03:37,768 --> 03:03:38,635 unmute. 5462 03:03:38,635 --> 03:03:39,369 >> Hello, my name is Lofgren. 5463 03:03:39,369 --> 03:03:42,969 I'm a resident of North Park 5464 03:03:44,808 --> 03:03:45,541 and I got to frequently. 5465 03:03:45,541 --> 03:03:45,942 All place I've been I've been 5466 03:03:45,942 --> 03:03:46,476 in contact. 5467 03:03:46,476 --> 03:03:47,110 It's a great venue. 5468 03:03:47,110 --> 03:03:47,644 I'm speaking in support of 5469 03:03:47,644 --> 03:03:49,644 the Appeal Keystone. 5470 03:03:51,915 --> 03:03:52,483 Please let the owner have 5471 03:03:52,483 --> 03:03:53,217 freedom under section. 5472 03:03:53,217 --> 03:03:56,687 It's quite interesting to see a 5473 03:03:56,687 --> 03:03:57,387 common pattern that we see all 5474 03:03:57,387 --> 03:03:57,988 over the country and I've even 5475 03:03:57,988 --> 03:03:58,689 seen in another in other 5476 03:03:58,689 --> 03:04:01,890 countries where the residents 5477 03:04:02,258 --> 03:04:02,926 are opposed to something that 5478 03:04:02,926 --> 03:04:03,660 potentially created a noise 5479 03:04:03,660 --> 03:04:04,328 therefore robbing the youth and 5480 03:04:04,328 --> 03:04:08,528 people who want to go out of 5481 03:04:09,733 --> 03:04:10,434 something like that be 5482 03:04:10,434 --> 03:04:10,968 the lively neighborhood noise 5483 03:04:10,968 --> 03:04:12,200 has to be respected. 5484 03:04:12,200 --> 03:04:12,569 One of the things it's kind of 5485 03:04:12,569 --> 03:04:12,936 funny that we're using 5486 03:04:12,936 --> 03:04:13,570 squatters. 5487 03:04:13,570 --> 03:04:16,206 For me this is a textbook 5488 03:04:16,206 --> 03:04:16,907 example of Sitkowski was 5489 03:04:16,907 --> 03:04:17,474 everybody wants to restore a 5490 03:04:17,474 --> 03:04:19,474 parking lots therefore 5491 03:04:20,911 --> 03:04:21,678 increasing the demand for cars 5492 03:04:21,678 --> 03:04:22,279 which is a clear a clear 5493 03:04:22,279 --> 03:04:24,279 environmental pollutant. 5494 03:04:26,149 --> 03:04:26,750 So what do you think What to 5495 03:04:26,750 --> 03:04:27,418 reduce noise is a clear 5496 03:04:27,418 --> 03:04:27,951 violation of that We've seen 5497 03:04:27,951 --> 03:04:30,351 that in in Berkeley. 5498 03:04:31,921 --> 03:04:32,523 So what I want to say is yes 5499 03:04:32,523 --> 03:04:33,189 please staff and follow 5500 03:04:33,189 --> 03:04:35,589 the staff recommendation and 5501 03:04:36,159 --> 03:04:36,659 appeal a rejected appeal. 5502 03:04:36,659 --> 03:04:37,127 >> Thank you. 5503 03:04:37,127 --> 03:04:39,127 Next is Tanya. 5504 03:04:40,698 --> 03:04:44,298 If you can please unmute after 5505 03:04:44,401 --> 03:04:44,701 that is 1335 Tanya. 5506 03:04:44,701 --> 03:04:45,469 Hello. 5507 03:04:45,469 --> 03:04:47,869 I'd like to specifically 5508 03:04:49,539 --> 03:04:50,273 address the concern that 5509 03:04:50,273 --> 03:04:50,708 the 710 Beach Club is impacting 5510 03:04:50,708 --> 03:04:52,708 local parking. 5511 03:04:53,911 --> 03:04:54,578 To suggest that five spaces 5512 03:04:54,578 --> 03:04:56,578 significantly alters parking 5513 03:04:57,848 --> 03:04:58,281 availability and p is 5514 03:04:58,281 --> 03:04:59,160 respectfully a 5515 03:04:59,160 --> 03:05:01,416 mischaracterization of the data 5516 03:05:02,853 --> 03:05:03,454 when you consider the huge 5517 03:05:03,454 --> 03:05:04,880 amount of visitors P.B. 5518 03:05:04,880 --> 03:05:06,488 Welcomes daily five spots 5519 03:05:07,625 --> 03:05:08,359 represents a nominal fraction 5520 03:05:08,359 --> 03:05:08,993 of the total capacity between 5521 03:05:08,993 --> 03:05:09,693 the ample parking within a 5522 03:05:09,693 --> 03:05:13,293 short walk and the high volume 5523 03:05:13,764 --> 03:05:14,131 of ride share usage in this 5524 03:05:14,131 --> 03:05:14,765 corridor. 5525 03:05:14,765 --> 03:05:15,399 These spaces are far more 5526 03:05:15,399 --> 03:05:18,168 valuable to the city as a 5527 03:05:18,168 --> 03:05:18,902 source of tax revenue and local 5528 03:05:18,902 --> 03:05:19,336 business growth than as asphalt 5529 03:05:19,336 --> 03:05:21,336 for five cars. 5530 03:05:22,939 --> 03:05:23,340 That's all I have. 5531 03:05:23,340 --> 03:05:23,707 Thank you. 5532 03:05:23,707 --> 03:05:25,609 Thank you. 5533 03:05:25,609 --> 03:05:29,209 Next is 1335 if you can please 5534 03:05:31,182 --> 03:05:32,116 unmute star six. 5535 03:05:32,116 --> 03:05:35,116 After that will be Denise 5536 03:05:36,554 --> 03:05:38,155 Bingham 1335 Academy for you. 5537 03:05:38,155 --> 03:05:42,355 You do have to press star six 5538 03:05:43,360 --> 03:05:44,128 in order to unmute we will have 5539 03:05:44,128 --> 03:05:48,299 to move on to our next speaker 5540 03:05:48,299 --> 03:05:48,632 If you can unmute going to 5541 03:05:48,632 --> 03:05:50,632 Denise. 5542 03:05:52,737 --> 03:05:53,170 After that our final speaker is 5543 03:05:53,170 --> 03:05:54,400 Ted Dennis. 5544 03:05:54,400 --> 03:05:57,507 >> Hello, my name is Denise Van 5545 03:05:57,507 --> 03:05:58,209 and I have been a patron of 710 5546 03:05:58,209 --> 03:06:01,209 Beach Club for over 15 years 5547 03:06:02,914 --> 03:06:03,647 and I have seen what MR. Slager 5548 03:06:03,647 --> 03:06:07,247 has done from the upgrades that 5549 03:06:07,384 --> 03:06:08,190 he has made through 5550 03:06:08,190 --> 03:06:10,419 the mediation to mitigate 5551 03:06:12,122 --> 03:06:13,240 the sound noise that is coming 5552 03:06:13,240 --> 03:06:13,791 from it as well as being at 5553 03:06:13,791 --> 03:06:17,391 the bar when live music happens 5554 03:06:17,495 --> 03:06:21,695 and all of the doors are shut 5555 03:06:22,466 --> 03:06:22,800 per the mediation requirements 5556 03:06:22,800 --> 03:06:23,467 . 5557 03:06:23,467 --> 03:06:26,467 I also believe that having 5558 03:06:27,137 --> 03:06:28,500 the street does give a more 5559 03:06:28,500 --> 03:06:30,405 vibrant and lively situation 5560 03:06:32,760 --> 03:06:32,743 for Pacific Beach which 5561 03:06:32,743 --> 03:06:35,743 continues to allow for more 5562 03:06:36,847 --> 03:06:37,548 revenue and tax taxing that can 5563 03:06:37,548 --> 03:06:38,150 help the city rebuild whatever 5564 03:06:38,150 --> 03:06:40,415 they need to do. 5565 03:06:41,853 --> 03:06:45,453 So I am in support of 5566 03:06:46,357 --> 03:06:46,791 the denial of the appeal. 5567 03:06:46,791 --> 03:06:47,191 >> Thank you. 5568 03:06:47,191 --> 03:06:47,992 Thank you. 5569 03:06:47,992 --> 03:06:51,592 And our final speaker on Zoom 5570 03:06:51,963 --> 03:06:52,429 is Ted Winkler, if you can 5571 03:06:52,429 --> 03:06:52,930 please on mute. 5572 03:06:52,930 --> 03:06:53,498 >> Good afternoon. 5573 03:06:53,498 --> 03:06:55,898 Thanks for your time. 5574 03:06:56,501 --> 03:06:57,268 Ford. 5575 03:06:57,268 --> 03:06:57,535 I'd like to recommend a nice 5576 03:06:57,535 --> 03:06:59,535 in. 5577 03:07:00,672 --> 03:07:01,238 I believe that Scott and his 5578 03:07:01,238 --> 03:07:03,238 business have covered 5579 03:07:05,430 --> 03:07:05,677 everything that the simple 5580 03:07:05,677 --> 03:07:08,770 application has stated and 5581 03:07:09,814 --> 03:07:10,114 there should be no appeal with 5582 03:07:10,114 --> 03:07:10,848 that. 5583 03:07:10,848 --> 03:07:11,349 I do know that the people 5584 03:07:11,349 --> 03:07:13,349 across the street. 5585 03:07:13,484 --> 03:07:14,850 How about an issue with Scott 5586 03:07:14,850 --> 03:07:16,850 for over 30 years? 5587 03:07:18,560 --> 03:07:18,756 Scott tried to hypothetically 5588 03:07:18,756 --> 03:07:19,357 appease every possible way for 5589 03:07:19,357 --> 03:07:22,357 them that continue to be 5590 03:07:23,194 --> 03:07:24,262 abandoned in existence. 5591 03:07:24,262 --> 03:07:28,399 As you can see that long list 5592 03:07:28,399 --> 03:07:29,670 of calls dated over 30 years 5593 03:07:29,670 --> 03:07:29,667 that was presented I assume 5594 03:07:29,667 --> 03:07:32,337 most of the coming from 5595 03:07:32,337 --> 03:07:33,300 the same exact people as well 5596 03:07:33,300 --> 03:07:33,638 in the presentation that was 5597 03:07:33,638 --> 03:07:36,380 presented to the calendar. 5598 03:07:37,142 --> 03:07:37,842 If you look at that closely, 5599 03:07:37,842 --> 03:07:38,342 every one of those states had 5600 03:07:38,342 --> 03:07:40,342 karaoke or trivia. 5601 03:07:42,480 --> 03:07:43,247 Couldn't imagine That being 5602 03:07:43,247 --> 03:07:45,549 said, the big problem for 5603 03:07:45,549 --> 03:07:46,317 the neighborhood seven towns 5604 03:07:46,317 --> 03:07:49,554 going to employ 40 people at a 5605 03:07:49,554 --> 03:07:50,288 time during the time of 5606 03:07:50,288 --> 03:07:53,288 the pandemic they almost closed 5607 03:07:54,759 --> 03:07:55,626 down and I believe clinging on 5608 03:07:55,626 --> 03:07:56,600 to this time a lot of your time 5609 03:07:56,600 --> 03:07:58,600 has concluded. 5610 03:07:59,898 --> 03:08:00,598 >> If you raise your hand 5611 03:08:00,598 --> 03:08:01,232 the five minute timer had also 5612 03:08:01,232 --> 03:08:01,933 concluded so no additional 5613 03:08:01,933 --> 03:08:04,436 speakers will be taken through 5614 03:08:04,436 --> 03:08:05,203 the virtual queue. 5615 03:08:05,203 --> 03:08:05,804 We did had 14 speakers 14 5616 03:08:05,804 --> 03:08:07,804 people registered there. 5617 03:08:10,141 --> 03:08:10,975 Request to serve. 5618 03:08:10,975 --> 03:08:11,242 Sorry let me say this a little 5619 03:08:11,242 --> 03:08:12,143 bit. 5620 03:08:12,143 --> 03:08:14,345 We had 14 people donating their 5621 03:08:14,345 --> 03:08:14,846 time to Scott Sliwa that did 5622 03:08:14,846 --> 03:08:15,547 not wish to speak. 5623 03:08:15,547 --> 03:08:18,817 Noting that for the record and 5624 03:08:18,817 --> 03:08:19,450 we have Rich Richards who was 5625 03:08:19,450 --> 03:08:20,185 in that pile in error. 5626 03:08:20,185 --> 03:08:23,488 So if Rich Richards can still 5627 03:08:23,488 --> 03:08:24,222 please come up. 5628 03:08:24,222 --> 03:08:24,856 Also note while you make your 5629 03:08:24,856 --> 03:08:25,523 way up that we did receive 5630 03:08:25,523 --> 03:08:26,191 three comments in favor and 5631 03:08:26,191 --> 03:08:28,591 nine comments in opposition. 5632 03:08:29,161 --> 03:08:29,761 We are a comment forum which 5633 03:08:29,761 --> 03:08:30,161 have been distributed to 5634 03:08:30,161 --> 03:08:30,629 the Council. 5635 03:08:30,629 --> 03:08:30,996 Please proceed. 5636 03:08:30,996 --> 03:08:32,996 Very good. 5637 03:08:33,964 --> 03:08:34,599 Thank you to the Council for 5638 03:08:34,599 --> 03:08:35,299 allowing me time to speak. 5639 03:08:35,299 --> 03:08:38,169 I've been a homeowner and a 5640 03:08:38,169 --> 03:08:38,469 resident of Pacific Beach since 5641 03:08:38,469 --> 03:08:38,837 1990. 5642 03:08:38,837 --> 03:08:40,837 36 years. 5643 03:08:41,673 --> 03:08:42,700 I just want to give my support 5644 03:08:42,700 --> 03:08:42,740 to 710. 5645 03:08:42,740 --> 03:08:43,375 It is an important integral 5646 03:08:43,375 --> 03:08:43,741 part of the Pacific Beach 5647 03:08:43,741 --> 03:08:45,741 community. 5648 03:08:46,645 --> 03:08:47,345 It's a restaurant social 5649 03:08:47,345 --> 03:08:50,345 meeting spot sports venue And 5650 03:08:51,149 --> 03:08:51,949 while the only night spots to 5651 03:08:51,949 --> 03:08:52,717 provide live music which is now 5652 03:08:52,717 --> 03:08:56,288 a dying art in San Diego. 5653 03:08:56,288 --> 03:08:56,988 When I first moved there there 5654 03:08:56,988 --> 03:08:59,988 was probably seven venues that 5655 03:09:01,493 --> 03:09:02,460 had live music. 5656 03:09:02,460 --> 03:09:03,228 It's got two places now or one. 5657 03:09:03,228 --> 03:09:05,897 On a personal note, I was in 5658 03:09:05,897 --> 03:09:06,498 Thailand when the war when I 5659 03:09:06,498 --> 03:09:07,265 got hit by the tsunami. 5660 03:09:07,265 --> 03:09:07,599 I was on one of the smallest 5661 03:09:07,599 --> 03:09:09,599 islands. 5662 03:09:10,902 --> 03:09:11,603 When I did come back Scott Flag 5663 03:09:11,603 --> 03:09:14,603 without hesitation came up to 5664 03:09:14,639 --> 03:09:14,956 me and asked how he could help 5665 03:09:14,956 --> 03:09:15,740 . 5666 03:09:15,740 --> 03:09:16,375 He decided to do a fundraiser 5667 03:09:16,375 --> 03:09:18,775 and he donated his 5668 03:09:20,780 --> 03:09:20,779 establishment as well as his 5669 03:09:20,779 --> 03:09:21,246 staff and provided live music 5670 03:09:21,246 --> 03:09:23,246 for that event. 5671 03:09:24,750 --> 03:09:25,516 It was quite successful. 5672 03:09:25,516 --> 03:09:26,117 Now he helps out with the beach 5673 03:09:26,117 --> 03:09:28,517 cleanup and working with 5674 03:09:29,200 --> 03:09:29,921 wounded veterans. 5675 03:09:29,921 --> 03:09:30,589 Pb will always be a destination 5676 03:09:30,589 --> 03:09:33,589 spot for San Diego residents 5677 03:09:34,459 --> 03:09:35,293 for the U.S. And the world. 5678 03:09:35,293 --> 03:09:35,860 >> It's good to have a multi 5679 03:09:35,860 --> 03:09:36,561 venue event like this. 5680 03:09:36,561 --> 03:09:36,895 Thank you for that concluding 5681 03:09:36,895 --> 03:09:38,895 comment. 5682 03:09:39,300 --> 03:09:39,598 That does conclude the public 5683 03:09:39,598 --> 03:09:40,265 comment on this item. 5684 03:09:40,265 --> 03:09:40,632 Council PRESIDENT Thank you. 5685 03:09:40,632 --> 03:09:42,632 Thank you. 5686 03:09:44,169 --> 03:09:44,870 Thank you City Clerk. 5687 03:09:44,870 --> 03:09:47,870 Our apologies that we somehow 5688 03:09:48,607 --> 03:09:49,107 missed your slip so I want to 5689 03:09:49,107 --> 03:09:49,941 give you a chance. 5690 03:09:49,941 --> 03:09:53,780 One of the things I like to do 5691 03:09:53,780 --> 03:09:53,779 on these big items is give our 5692 03:09:53,779 --> 03:09:54,479 city clerk a round of applause 5693 03:09:54,479 --> 03:09:57,479 for managing all the speakers 5694 03:10:00,485 --> 03:10:04,850 and the rollouts and and that 5695 03:10:05,390 --> 03:10:06,158 goes to her team as well. 5696 03:10:06,158 --> 03:10:06,992 So thank you for that. 5697 03:10:06,992 --> 03:10:10,610 So I want to thank the staff, 5698 03:10:10,610 --> 03:10:10,362 the appellant and the applicant 5699 03:10:10,362 --> 03:10:11,230 . 5700 03:10:11,230 --> 03:10:14,699 This is now in District one so 5701 03:10:14,699 --> 03:10:15,467 I'll take the lead on this. 5702 03:10:15,467 --> 03:10:16,335 Thank you to those who showed 5703 03:10:16,335 --> 03:10:19,935 up in chambers and spoke or 5704 03:10:20,305 --> 03:10:20,939 showed your support of things 5705 03:10:20,939 --> 03:10:23,939 you liked in your position 5706 03:10:24,877 --> 03:10:25,477 the things you didn't like and 5707 03:10:25,477 --> 03:10:28,477 as well as those who 5708 03:10:29,248 --> 03:10:30,820 participated virtually We heard 5709 03:10:30,820 --> 03:10:30,782 a lot of things this afternoon 5710 03:10:30,782 --> 03:10:33,152 so I wanted to make sure that 5711 03:10:33,152 --> 03:10:34,153 we all understand what we're 5712 03:10:34,153 --> 03:10:38,353 here to talk about and that is 5713 03:10:38,590 --> 03:10:39,900 the action on the appeal of 5714 03:10:39,900 --> 03:10:39,525 the environmental 5715 03:10:39,525 --> 03:10:41,525 determination. 5716 03:10:43,661 --> 03:10:44,196 It is not a consideration of 5717 03:10:44,196 --> 03:10:44,964 the St3 application. 5718 03:10:44,964 --> 03:10:48,467 It is not a conversation about 5719 03:10:48,467 --> 03:10:49,340 the location of the off street 5720 03:10:49,340 --> 03:10:51,340 parking replacement or 5721 03:10:52,171 --> 03:10:52,671 the parking spots at the three 5722 03:10:52,671 --> 03:10:53,339 we would take up. 5723 03:10:53,339 --> 03:10:56,339 It is not about whether 5724 03:10:57,209 --> 03:10:57,909 the property is operating in 5725 03:10:57,909 --> 03:10:58,410 compliance with the mediation 5726 03:10:58,410 --> 03:11:00,810 as some spoke to. 5727 03:11:02,180 --> 03:11:02,715 It's not about the operation of 5728 03:11:02,715 --> 03:11:03,415 the 710 Club itself. 5729 03:11:03,415 --> 03:11:06,785 Nor is it about the character 5730 03:11:06,785 --> 03:11:07,185 or the personalities of those 5731 03:11:07,185 --> 03:11:08,190 involved. 5732 03:11:08,190 --> 03:11:11,619 So a couple of questions before 5733 03:11:12,191 --> 03:11:12,958 I jump in. 5734 03:11:12,958 --> 03:11:13,825 This one's for staff and I 5735 03:11:13,825 --> 03:11:17,425 think you've been given a heads 5736 03:11:17,429 --> 03:11:18,130 up to start the mine and make 5737 03:11:18,130 --> 03:11:21,167 sure for myself and for my 5738 03:11:21,167 --> 03:11:21,800 colleagues here on Council 5739 03:11:21,800 --> 03:11:22,401 the applicant did submit a 5740 03:11:22,401 --> 03:11:24,401 pretty lengthy document 5741 03:11:26,772 --> 03:11:27,472 detailing their appeal. 5742 03:11:27,472 --> 03:11:28,730 The typically receives from 5743 03:11:28,730 --> 03:11:30,473 staff an explanation or 5744 03:11:31,543 --> 03:11:32,440 rebuttal to each issue raised 5745 03:11:32,440 --> 03:11:32,711 by the appellant. 5746 03:11:32,711 --> 03:11:33,412 And yet the staff report and 5747 03:11:33,412 --> 03:11:35,414 the slide deck appear to be 5748 03:11:35,414 --> 03:11:37,414 silent. 5749 03:11:40,553 --> 03:11:41,320 How should we take that? 5750 03:11:41,320 --> 03:11:44,320 >> So what what the staff 5751 03:11:45,458 --> 03:11:46,192 report was written on was 5752 03:11:46,192 --> 03:11:49,762 the appeal that was filed which 5753 03:11:49,762 --> 03:11:50,495 checked all of the boxes on 5754 03:11:50,495 --> 03:11:51,970 the appeal form but provided no 5755 03:11:51,970 --> 03:11:51,797 additional information. 5756 03:11:51,797 --> 03:11:54,797 The balance of the information 5757 03:11:54,867 --> 03:11:55,568 was provided very close to 5758 03:11:55,568 --> 03:11:56,268 the hearing and staff did not 5759 03:11:56,268 --> 03:11:59,538 receive it in time to respond 5760 03:11:59,538 --> 03:11:59,839 in kind. 5761 03:11:59,839 --> 03:12:00,705 Okay. 5762 03:12:00,705 --> 03:12:04,310 I say that for a couple of 5763 03:12:04,310 --> 03:12:04,877 reasons One to make sure it 5764 03:12:04,877 --> 03:12:05,611 wasn't a reflection of 5765 03:12:05,611 --> 03:12:06,120 the material You simply did not 5766 03:12:06,120 --> 03:12:08,120 occur to it. 5767 03:12:08,981 --> 03:12:09,649 But also as a message to 5768 03:12:09,649 --> 03:12:10,382 anybody else who chooses to 5769 03:12:10,382 --> 03:12:13,982 appeal that you need to submit 5770 03:12:14,253 --> 03:12:14,987 your documentation when you 5771 03:12:14,987 --> 03:12:15,820 file the appeal or to make sure 5772 03:12:15,820 --> 03:12:19,225 that staff gets it and plenty 5773 03:12:19,225 --> 03:12:19,926 of time for you to respond to. 5774 03:12:19,926 --> 03:12:22,926 So thank you for clarifying 5775 03:12:23,562 --> 03:12:24,330 that And I can I can understand 5776 03:12:24,330 --> 03:12:24,663 that because this is a notice 5777 03:12:24,663 --> 03:12:25,598 hearing. 5778 03:12:25,598 --> 03:12:28,267 You have a time limit and you 5779 03:12:28,267 --> 03:12:28,968 have to do your work. 5780 03:12:28,968 --> 03:12:31,968 So as to the environmental 5781 03:12:33,500 --> 03:12:33,673 determination in addition to 5782 03:12:33,673 --> 03:12:34,340 the testimony today, I did 5783 03:12:34,340 --> 03:12:37,340 review the material that was 5784 03:12:37,810 --> 03:12:38,444 attached to the docket as well 5785 03:12:38,444 --> 03:12:39,144 as the comments that were 5786 03:12:39,144 --> 03:12:42,144 submitted online that the city 5787 03:12:42,681 --> 03:12:45,681 clerk relied on referred to 5788 03:12:46,953 --> 03:12:47,520 staff relies on categorical 5789 03:12:47,520 --> 03:12:48,120 exemptions related to 5790 03:12:48,120 --> 03:12:48,587 the infill development. 5791 03:12:48,587 --> 03:12:50,587 So that's where 5792 03:12:51,657 --> 03:12:51,991 the conversation needs to focus 5793 03:12:51,991 --> 03:12:52,759 on. 5794 03:12:52,759 --> 03:12:53,393 As was mentioned, Section d of 5795 03:12:53,393 --> 03:12:55,393 the categorical exemptions 5796 03:12:57,620 --> 03:12:57,797 includes approval. 5797 03:12:57,797 --> 03:12:58,398 The project would not result in 5798 03:12:58,398 --> 03:12:59,980 any significant effects 5799 03:12:59,980 --> 03:13:02,980 relating to traffic noise, air 5800 03:13:02,301 --> 03:13:03,690 quality or water quality. 5801 03:13:03,690 --> 03:13:03,769 And where of course we're not 5802 03:13:03,769 --> 03:13:06,706 talking about the approval of 5803 03:13:06,706 --> 03:13:07,407 the project but the evidence to 5804 03:13:07,407 --> 03:13:07,840 support whether we have enough 5805 03:13:07,840 --> 03:13:09,840 information in 5806 03:13:11,511 --> 03:13:12,144 the environmental determination 5807 03:13:12,144 --> 03:13:12,812 excuse me staff included 5808 03:13:12,812 --> 03:13:14,812 information that compliance 5809 03:13:16,916 --> 03:13:17,582 with San Diego Mississippi Code 5810 03:13:17,582 --> 03:13:19,582 59.50401 would ensure noise 5811 03:13:21,320 --> 03:13:22,210 impacts would be less than 5812 03:13:22,210 --> 03:13:22,689 significant And yet the city's 5813 03:13:22,689 --> 03:13:25,624 own track record is at this 5814 03:13:25,624 --> 03:13:26,259 property has not necessarily 5815 03:13:26,259 --> 03:13:28,259 complied despite numerous 5816 03:13:30,662 --> 03:13:31,264 enforcement efforts by blue of 5817 03:13:31,264 --> 03:13:31,931 the appellant including 5818 03:13:31,931 --> 03:13:34,331 information about dozens of 5819 03:13:35,468 --> 03:13:37,468 noise complaints Complaints 5820 03:13:38,671 --> 03:13:42,271 does not mean violation but it 5821 03:13:44,244 --> 03:13:45,211 does show a pattern. 5822 03:13:45,211 --> 03:13:47,946 So staff also relies on secret 5823 03:13:47,946 --> 03:13:48,581 guidelines Section 15 300 point 5824 03:13:48,581 --> 03:13:49,282 to be saying the projects 5825 03:13:49,282 --> 03:13:51,682 inspected have no significant 5826 03:13:53,686 --> 03:13:54,354 cumulative packet but that 5827 03:13:54,354 --> 03:13:55,540 appears to treat the Street 5828 03:13:55,540 --> 03:13:57,424 three in my opinion as a 5829 03:13:57,424 --> 03:13:58,124 standalone project separate and 5830 03:13:58,124 --> 03:13:58,824 distinct from the restaurant. 5831 03:13:58,824 --> 03:14:02,424 The theory is an expansion of 5832 03:14:02,595 --> 03:14:03,196 the restaurant bar and the two 5833 03:14:03,196 --> 03:14:05,596 cannot be separated as 5834 03:14:07,533 --> 03:14:07,967 suggested in the environmental 5835 03:14:07,967 --> 03:14:08,669 determination. 5836 03:14:08,669 --> 03:14:09,369 We must examine the cumulative 5837 03:14:09,369 --> 03:14:12,205 impact of at least the street 5838 03:14:12,205 --> 03:14:12,872 around the restaurant with 5839 03:14:12,872 --> 03:14:13,506 regards to especially noise. 5840 03:14:13,506 --> 03:14:16,506 I recognize that the only 5841 03:14:16,876 --> 03:14:17,377 action before us is 5842 03:14:17,377 --> 03:14:17,810 the environmental 5843 03:14:17,810 --> 03:14:18,511 determination. 5844 03:14:18,511 --> 03:14:20,911 However, the secret exemption 5845 03:14:21,848 --> 03:14:22,482 relies on this council to find 5846 03:14:22,482 --> 03:14:23,160 the project would not have 5847 03:14:23,160 --> 03:14:25,160 significant impacts. 5848 03:14:26,119 --> 03:14:26,753 There is significant impact 5849 03:14:26,753 --> 03:14:29,753 evidence in the record and 5850 03:14:31,157 --> 03:14:31,891 whether it's the owner or 5851 03:14:31,891 --> 03:14:32,459 the customers of the operations 5852 03:14:32,459 --> 03:14:34,459 about compliance with 5853 03:14:35,595 --> 03:14:36,429 the municipal code. 5854 03:14:36,429 --> 03:14:39,429 This evidence to me constitutes 5855 03:14:40,133 --> 03:14:40,834 unusual circumstances. 5856 03:14:40,834 --> 03:14:43,834 One of the criteria in 5857 03:14:45,438 --> 03:14:46,500 considering the appeal as many 5858 03:14:46,500 --> 03:14:46,673 people smoke bars and 5859 03:14:46,673 --> 03:14:47,374 restaurants in the area open 5860 03:14:47,374 --> 03:14:50,374 light, serve alcohol and play 5861 03:14:50,777 --> 03:14:51,545 music with fewer complaints. 5862 03:14:51,545 --> 03:14:52,144 And there is evidence that an 5863 03:14:52,144 --> 03:14:52,779 outdoor cherry tree can 5864 03:14:52,779 --> 03:14:55,179 exacerbate what is already 5865 03:14:55,648 --> 03:14:56,182 happening with the adjoining 5866 03:14:56,182 --> 03:14:56,917 restaurant and bar. 5867 03:14:56,917 --> 03:14:59,917 Whether that's the operation or 5868 03:15:00,453 --> 03:15:01,121 the customer's nightlife is a 5869 03:15:01,121 --> 03:15:01,655 part of Pacific Beach, let's 5870 03:15:01,655 --> 03:15:03,655 all recognize that. 5871 03:15:05,459 --> 03:15:06,125 But the frequency of violations 5872 03:15:06,125 --> 03:15:06,827 over a consistent period of 5873 03:15:06,827 --> 03:15:09,227 time demonstrates the history 5874 03:15:09,362 --> 03:15:09,796 that constitutes of unusual 5875 03:15:09,796 --> 03:15:10,430 circumstances. 5876 03:15:10,430 --> 03:15:12,830 The termination also used 5877 03:15:14,701 --> 03:15:15,402 the small project exemption and 5878 03:15:15,402 --> 03:15:16,690 ignore the cumulative effects 5879 03:15:16,690 --> 03:15:19,390 of the street which combined 5880 03:15:19,390 --> 03:15:19,705 with the restaurant bar which 5881 03:15:19,705 --> 03:15:20,507 really kind of surprised me. 5882 03:15:20,507 --> 03:15:23,507 This wasn't just a small 5883 03:15:24,611 --> 03:15:25,312 project it's a definitive 5884 03:15:25,312 --> 03:15:28,312 expansion of an existing one. 5885 03:15:29,115 --> 03:15:29,715 Secret guideline Status 5886 03:15:29,715 --> 03:15:30,317 Significant effect is a 5887 03:15:30,317 --> 03:15:31,510 substantial potentially 5888 03:15:31,510 --> 03:15:34,510 substantial and first change in 5889 03:15:34,120 --> 03:15:34,788 any of the physical conditions 5890 03:15:34,788 --> 03:15:35,421 within the area affected by 5891 03:15:35,421 --> 03:15:37,821 the project including what 5892 03:15:38,825 --> 03:15:39,593 ambient noise? 5893 03:15:39,593 --> 03:15:40,226 While I am loath to require 5894 03:15:40,226 --> 03:15:42,226 environmental analysis for 5895 03:15:43,597 --> 03:15:44,364 converting converting a tobacco 5896 03:15:44,364 --> 03:15:44,965 to a string theory, there is 5897 03:15:44,965 --> 03:15:45,565 substantial evidence in 5898 03:15:45,565 --> 03:15:47,965 the record that several 5899 03:15:48,402 --> 03:15:49,136 exemptions listed in 5900 03:15:49,136 --> 03:15:49,569 the determination in my opinion 5901 03:15:49,569 --> 03:15:51,569 do not apply. 5902 03:15:53,373 --> 03:15:54,400 I cannot make the findings in 5903 03:15:54,400 --> 03:15:54,474 support of the environmental 5904 03:15:54,474 --> 03:15:55,275 determination. 5905 03:15:55,275 --> 03:15:58,450 So with that I will move to 5906 03:15:58,450 --> 03:15:58,779 grant the appeal and set aside 5907 03:15:58,779 --> 03:16:00,779 the environmental determination 5908 03:16:02,416 --> 03:16:03,317 in accordance with section 112. 5909 03:16:03,317 --> 03:16:06,820 0520f and leave it to staff as 5910 03:16:06,820 --> 03:16:07,487 to the appropriate level of 5911 03:16:07,487 --> 03:16:08,121 sequence analysis to address 5912 03:16:08,121 --> 03:16:11,121 the issues raised in this 5913 03:16:11,492 --> 03:16:12,292 afternoon's hearing. 5914 03:16:12,292 --> 03:16:13,126 And as a reminder to everyone 5915 03:16:13,126 --> 03:16:16,730 here this is not a decision on 5916 03:16:16,730 --> 03:16:17,230 the permit application and just 5917 03:16:17,230 --> 03:16:17,731 a narrow one on 5918 03:16:17,731 --> 03:16:18,165 the environmental 5919 03:16:18,165 --> 03:16:20,165 determination. 5920 03:16:21,935 --> 03:16:22,636 So I have made a motion and 5921 03:16:22,636 --> 03:16:23,270 we'll go next to Councilmember 5922 03:16:23,270 --> 03:16:26,270 Campbell who used to have 5923 03:16:26,706 --> 03:16:27,474 Pacific Beach and her district. 5924 03:16:27,474 --> 03:16:29,874 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 5925 03:16:33,480 --> 03:16:33,824 I'm happy to second your motion 5926 03:16:33,824 --> 03:16:34,180 . 5927 03:16:34,180 --> 03:16:36,180 >> Okay. 5928 03:16:38,519 --> 03:16:39,119 So a motion by myself to grant 5929 03:16:39,119 --> 03:16:39,819 the appeal and set aside 5930 03:16:39,819 --> 03:16:40,387 the environmental terminations 5931 03:16:40,387 --> 03:16:40,754 cited by Councilmember 5932 03:16:40,754 --> 03:16:42,754 Campbell. 5933 03:16:44,580 --> 03:16:44,458 I don't see anybody else on 5934 03:16:44,458 --> 03:16:45,125 the lights. 5935 03:16:45,125 --> 03:16:45,793 Councilmember Bong Wolpert. 5936 03:16:45,793 --> 03:16:48,193 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT 5937 03:16:48,462 --> 03:16:48,828 And thank you to everyone for 5938 03:16:48,828 --> 03:16:49,496 coming in. 5939 03:16:49,496 --> 03:16:52,866 So this is very loud today. 5940 03:16:52,866 --> 03:16:53,567 I know this is your council 5941 03:16:53,567 --> 03:16:54,501 district and so of course you 5942 03:16:54,501 --> 03:16:57,738 have expertise And I just had a 5943 03:16:57,738 --> 03:16:58,405 question about the last time 5944 03:16:58,405 --> 03:17:00,608 you made this was what we're 5945 03:17:00,608 --> 03:17:01,308 deciding today is only 5946 03:17:01,308 --> 03:17:04,308 the second appeal not about 5947 03:17:05,745 --> 03:17:06,213 the permit itself. 5948 03:17:06,213 --> 03:17:08,213 That is correct. 5949 03:17:10,350 --> 03:17:11,510 So if we were to deny 5950 03:17:11,510 --> 03:17:11,752 the appeal today, would there 5951 03:17:11,752 --> 03:17:12,452 still be a permitting process 5952 03:17:12,452 --> 03:17:15,452 the business owner would have 5953 03:17:15,723 --> 03:17:16,156 to go through to continue 5954 03:17:16,156 --> 03:17:16,690 operating? 5955 03:17:16,690 --> 03:17:16,990 Sorry, don't answer. 5956 03:17:16,990 --> 03:17:18,990 Okay. 5957 03:17:20,661 --> 03:17:21,328 I believe the project plus 5958 03:17:21,328 --> 03:17:21,995 the new determination would 5959 03:17:21,995 --> 03:17:23,697 come forward to city council 5960 03:17:23,697 --> 03:17:26,970 City council would take 5961 03:17:28,502 --> 03:17:29,403 jurisdiction. 5962 03:17:29,403 --> 03:17:33,300 So we would hear this again. 5963 03:17:33,874 --> 03:17:34,441 You would hear the project plus 5964 03:17:34,441 --> 03:17:35,142 the new determination. 5965 03:17:35,142 --> 03:17:36,900 What's the new determination? 5966 03:17:36,900 --> 03:17:38,579 I mean I'm so I'm sorry the new 5967 03:17:38,579 --> 03:17:39,145 seek with determination. 5968 03:17:39,145 --> 03:17:41,145 >> MAY I clarify? 5969 03:17:42,549 --> 03:17:43,183 You mean if the council were to 5970 03:17:43,183 --> 03:17:43,684 deny the appeal today your 5971 03:17:43,684 --> 03:17:43,983 original question? 5972 03:17:43,983 --> 03:17:45,983 Okay. 5973 03:17:47,421 --> 03:17:48,155 So the project 5974 03:17:48,155 --> 03:17:50,155 the environmental determination 5975 03:17:52,626 --> 03:17:53,327 would be final but the project 5976 03:17:53,327 --> 03:17:56,927 would still be would go before 5977 03:17:56,964 --> 03:17:57,631 the hearing officer for a 5978 03:17:57,631 --> 03:17:58,199 process three decision that 5979 03:17:58,199 --> 03:17:58,833 could be appealable to 5980 03:17:58,833 --> 03:18:01,233 the Planning Commission if 5981 03:18:01,769 --> 03:18:02,436 appealed and the city's final 5982 03:18:02,436 --> 03:18:04,836 determination could also be 5983 03:18:06,173 --> 03:18:06,874 appealable to the coastal 5984 03:18:06,874 --> 03:18:07,475 Commission because this is in 5985 03:18:07,475 --> 03:18:08,509 the Coastal Commission's 5986 03:18:08,509 --> 03:18:10,509 appealable jurisdiction. 5987 03:18:13,848 --> 03:18:14,582 Okay. 5988 03:18:14,582 --> 03:18:18,182 So then I know the Coastal 5989 03:18:18,585 --> 03:18:19,287 Commission had required any st3 5990 03:18:19,287 --> 03:18:19,987 which took away parking spaces 5991 03:18:19,987 --> 03:18:20,320 to have an offset of parking 5992 03:18:20,320 --> 03:18:22,320 spaces. 5993 03:18:24,158 --> 03:18:24,692 So are there new parking spaces 5994 03:18:24,692 --> 03:18:25,260 being provided here? 5995 03:18:25,260 --> 03:18:27,260 >> Yes. 5996 03:18:28,796 --> 03:18:29,497 Applicant has located five off 5997 03:18:29,497 --> 03:18:32,497 street parking spaces and an 5998 03:18:33,734 --> 03:18:34,435 adjacent paid parking lot in 5999 03:18:34,435 --> 03:18:37,435 the next block 8845 Garnet, i 6000 03:18:37,838 --> 03:18:40,238 believe is the address. 6001 03:18:42,710 --> 03:18:43,377 I can't I don't recall whether 6002 03:18:43,377 --> 03:18:44,450 the Coastal Commission would 6003 03:18:44,450 --> 03:18:44,679 allow for paid parking as an 6004 03:18:44,679 --> 03:18:47,679 offset or these were paid 6005 03:18:47,915 --> 03:18:48,216 parking But anyway weren't 6006 03:18:48,216 --> 03:18:48,816 they? 6007 03:18:48,816 --> 03:18:49,484 I'm sorry weren't these 6008 03:18:49,484 --> 03:18:52,153 the street parking They were 6009 03:18:52,153 --> 03:18:52,820 parking meters so I assume they 6010 03:18:52,820 --> 03:18:55,820 were paid parking anyway you 6011 03:18:56,991 --> 03:18:57,291 know I mean. 6012 03:18:57,291 --> 03:18:57,992 Okay. 6013 03:18:57,992 --> 03:19:00,992 Yeah I remember the Coastal 6014 03:19:01,195 --> 03:19:01,729 Commission coming down on us 6015 03:19:01,729 --> 03:19:02,629 for this issue. 6016 03:19:02,629 --> 03:19:06,867 I just they come down on us a 6017 03:19:06,867 --> 03:19:07,568 lot so I don't recall MR. MR. 6018 03:19:07,568 --> 03:19:08,335 Slagle able to maybe able to 6019 03:19:08,335 --> 03:19:11,205 speak to this further I believe 6020 03:19:11,205 --> 03:19:11,906 he's paid for those spaces so 6021 03:19:11,906 --> 03:19:12,240 they are paid People can park 6022 03:19:12,240 --> 03:19:12,640 in them. 6023 03:19:12,640 --> 03:19:14,640 Understood. 6024 03:19:15,877 --> 03:19:16,711 Okay Thank you. 6025 03:19:16,711 --> 03:19:17,378 I guess my my overall question 6026 03:19:17,378 --> 03:19:20,378 I understand the very narrow 6027 03:19:20,481 --> 03:19:24,810 grounds on which we have to 6028 03:19:25,286 --> 03:19:26,530 evaluate a secure appeal at 6029 03:19:26,530 --> 03:19:26,753 the same time, I do know that 6030 03:19:26,753 --> 03:19:29,753 there's a lot of community 6031 03:19:30,824 --> 03:19:31,525 concern about the conduct in 6032 03:19:31,525 --> 03:19:31,792 the noise and everything going 6033 03:19:31,792 --> 03:19:33,792 on. 6034 03:19:34,729 --> 03:19:35,429 So can that be even if that 6035 03:19:35,429 --> 03:19:36,960 cannot be addressed through a 6036 03:19:36,960 --> 03:19:36,764 sequel appeal, could that be 6037 03:19:36,764 --> 03:19:39,164 addressed through the permit 6038 03:19:39,933 --> 03:19:40,634 process by which the community 6039 03:19:40,634 --> 03:19:41,402 could be heard and the owner 6040 03:19:41,402 --> 03:19:44,138 could make any kind of 6041 03:19:44,138 --> 03:19:44,806 modifications about the noise 6042 03:19:44,806 --> 03:19:47,806 and about the violations and 6043 03:19:48,609 --> 03:19:49,477 all of that? 6044 03:19:49,477 --> 03:19:53,770 >> It it depends on what you 6045 03:19:54,649 --> 03:19:55,449 mean by address In order to be 6046 03:19:55,449 --> 03:19:58,385 able to approve a street or re 6047 03:19:58,385 --> 03:19:59,870 here we would need to make sure 6048 03:19:59,870 --> 03:19:59,753 that the street area operated 6049 03:19:59,753 --> 03:20:02,153 according to the regulations 6050 03:20:03,457 --> 03:20:07,570 for street trees um they don't 6051 03:20:08,263 --> 03:20:08,962 specifically address noise but 6052 03:20:08,962 --> 03:20:11,962 they do specifically address a 6053 03:20:13,201 --> 03:20:13,968 lot of other things like hours 6054 03:20:13,968 --> 03:20:14,769 of operation etc. So it really 6055 03:20:14,769 --> 03:20:17,169 depends on what you're 6056 03:20:20,341 --> 03:20:20,642 concerned with. 6057 03:20:20,642 --> 03:20:22,642 Okay. 6058 03:20:24,679 --> 03:20:25,446 I just I want to make sure that 6059 03:20:25,446 --> 03:20:26,147 folks who are facing challenges 6060 03:20:26,147 --> 03:20:29,147 from an adjacent business are 6061 03:20:29,817 --> 03:20:30,518 able to get their a concerns 6062 03:20:30,518 --> 03:20:31,219 addressed even though we MAY 6063 03:20:31,219 --> 03:20:31,919 not be able to do that in 6064 03:20:31,919 --> 03:20:32,253 the narrow grounds of a sequel 6065 03:20:32,253 --> 03:20:34,253 appeal. 6066 03:20:34,923 --> 03:20:35,223 So I will just leave that 6067 03:20:35,223 --> 03:20:35,924 there. 6068 03:20:35,924 --> 03:20:38,924 I understand that we're very 6069 03:20:39,527 --> 03:20:40,261 limited right now on what we 6070 03:20:40,261 --> 03:20:40,929 can review but I'm hopeful that 6071 03:20:40,929 --> 03:20:41,563 there would be a process by 6072 03:20:41,563 --> 03:20:44,563 which this could be done. 6073 03:20:44,733 --> 03:20:45,333 So thank you. 6074 03:20:45,333 --> 03:20:46,000 Thank you Councilmember 6075 03:20:46,000 --> 03:20:48,603 Belmopan And to your point I 6076 03:20:48,603 --> 03:20:49,237 just want emphasize a number of 6077 03:20:49,237 --> 03:20:49,971 things that the appellant 6078 03:20:49,971 --> 03:20:52,971 brought up are all descriptions 6079 03:20:53,275 --> 03:20:53,775 of the project no longer in 6080 03:20:53,775 --> 03:20:54,409 place they've made 6081 03:20:54,409 --> 03:20:56,809 the application has been 6082 03:20:58,746 --> 03:20:59,548 updated and I wanted to be very 6083 03:20:59,548 --> 03:21:02,548 careful not to get distracted 6084 03:21:03,518 --> 03:21:04,219 by how the application as you 6085 03:21:04,219 --> 03:21:07,219 said we're constrained in a 6086 03:21:07,522 --> 03:21:09,922 very narrow conversation about 6087 03:21:12,260 --> 03:21:12,560 the environmental determination 6088 03:21:12,560 --> 03:21:13,427 . 6089 03:21:13,427 --> 03:21:13,728 And to your other point if I 6090 03:21:13,728 --> 03:21:15,728 might. 6091 03:21:16,765 --> 03:21:17,432 There was a decision by city 6092 03:21:17,432 --> 03:21:18,166 council many years ago that 6093 03:21:18,166 --> 03:21:21,166 projects were getting caught in 6094 03:21:21,269 --> 03:21:21,869 a loop that the environmental 6095 03:21:21,869 --> 03:21:24,269 was appealed to council. 6096 03:21:26,274 --> 03:21:26,975 Council would send it back. 6097 03:21:26,975 --> 03:21:27,309 The environmental would be 6098 03:21:27,309 --> 03:21:28,430 updated. 6099 03:21:28,430 --> 03:21:28,309 Only the environment would come 6100 03:21:28,309 --> 03:21:30,309 up. 6101 03:21:30,612 --> 03:21:31,479 They'd send it back again. 6102 03:21:31,479 --> 03:21:32,147 So they made a decision that 6103 03:21:32,147 --> 03:21:34,547 once the environmental thing 6104 03:21:35,583 --> 03:21:36,284 gets appealed then council 6105 03:21:36,284 --> 03:21:36,918 takes full responsibility for 6106 03:21:36,918 --> 03:21:39,918 the project so you're not 6107 03:21:40,755 --> 03:21:41,623 bouncing around. 6108 03:21:41,623 --> 03:21:45,823 So to the degree that might be 6109 03:21:46,610 --> 03:21:46,728 helpful and so so so there is a 6110 03:21:46,728 --> 03:21:49,728 path for the applicant maybe 6111 03:21:50,640 --> 03:21:50,632 not one they're going to like 6112 03:21:50,632 --> 03:21:51,399 but there is a path. 6113 03:21:51,399 --> 03:21:54,999 So I'll be candid about that. 6114 03:21:55,137 --> 03:21:55,404 Councilmember Hemphill Thank 6115 03:21:55,404 --> 03:21:56,104 you. 6116 03:21:56,104 --> 03:21:56,772 >> Council PRESIDENT Thank you 6117 03:21:56,772 --> 03:21:58,540 for the presentation staff I 6118 03:21:58,540 --> 03:21:59,740 appreciate all the members of 6119 03:21:59,740 --> 03:21:59,608 the public for their 6120 03:21:59,608 --> 03:22:00,241 participation today. 6121 03:22:00,241 --> 03:22:02,641 Obviously a small business 6122 03:22:03,645 --> 03:22:04,413 trying to thrive and San Diego 6123 03:22:04,413 --> 03:22:08,116 is going through a lot to do 6124 03:22:08,116 --> 03:22:08,784 that and succeed and neighbors 6125 03:22:08,784 --> 03:22:09,218 have concerns about impacts 6126 03:22:09,218 --> 03:22:09,718 that happen in 6127 03:22:09,718 --> 03:22:11,718 the neighborhood. 6128 03:22:13,121 --> 03:22:13,689 I appreciate both of you for 6129 03:22:13,689 --> 03:22:14,489 putting that forward. 6130 03:22:14,489 --> 03:22:17,526 My question for staff So in 6131 03:22:17,526 --> 03:22:19,926 essence the determination was 6132 03:22:22,631 --> 03:22:25,631 to grant the application of 6133 03:22:26,702 --> 03:22:29,702 restaurant and we have an 6134 03:22:31,506 --> 03:22:32,274 appeal here. 6135 03:22:32,274 --> 03:22:33,175 Did I not hear you correctly 6136 03:22:33,175 --> 03:22:36,775 that the appellants who want to 6137 03:22:36,979 --> 03:22:39,379 stop 710 from moving forward 6138 03:22:41,383 --> 03:22:42,184 didn't submit what they needed 6139 03:22:42,184 --> 03:22:45,784 to submit in a timely fashion? 6140 03:22:45,820 --> 03:22:46,455 I thought I understood you 6141 03:22:46,455 --> 03:22:47,560 saying that in response to 6142 03:22:47,560 --> 03:22:47,422 the council PRESIDENT's 6143 03:22:47,422 --> 03:22:49,124 question. 6144 03:22:49,124 --> 03:22:49,424 That's correct. 6145 03:22:49,424 --> 03:22:51,424 Okay. 6146 03:22:54,897 --> 03:22:58,497 So is there not a municipal 6147 03:22:59,502 --> 03:23:00,369 code or council policy that 6148 03:23:00,369 --> 03:23:03,969 states that if you don't turn 6149 03:23:04,539 --> 03:23:05,240 in as valid as some of their 6150 03:23:05,240 --> 03:23:05,908 concerns and I hear them loud 6151 03:23:05,908 --> 03:23:08,777 and clear are if they don't 6152 03:23:08,777 --> 03:23:09,445 turn in their documentation 6153 03:23:09,445 --> 03:23:10,179 appropriately, if they don't 6154 03:23:10,179 --> 03:23:13,779 allow staff to have the ability 6155 03:23:13,849 --> 03:23:14,549 to rebut it, is there not 6156 03:23:14,549 --> 03:23:15,350 something in place in our code 6157 03:23:15,350 --> 03:23:18,653 that says if you fail to turn 6158 03:23:18,653 --> 03:23:18,987 this in it kind of moves 6159 03:23:18,987 --> 03:23:19,588 forward? 6160 03:23:19,588 --> 03:23:20,256 I know the council makes 6161 03:23:20,256 --> 03:23:22,656 the ultimate final decision 6162 03:23:23,926 --> 03:23:24,659 process five at this point but 6163 03:23:24,659 --> 03:23:28,229 what is our policy or municipal 6164 03:23:28,229 --> 03:23:31,229 code say about failing to 6165 03:23:33,402 --> 03:23:35,802 protect your appeal rights? 6166 03:23:39,541 --> 03:23:40,376 Our policy is if the appeal fee 6167 03:23:40,376 --> 03:23:43,912 is paid and the form is filled 6168 03:23:43,912 --> 03:23:44,613 out then the appeal is valid. 6169 03:23:44,613 --> 03:23:47,616 The code requires an appeal to 6170 03:23:47,616 --> 03:23:48,250 be valid but that that is 6171 03:23:48,250 --> 03:23:48,684 the way that we currently 6172 03:23:48,684 --> 03:23:50,684 interpret it. 6173 03:23:54,890 --> 03:23:56,890 Okay. 6174 03:24:07,737 --> 03:24:11,937 I feel like excuse me I see 6175 03:24:21,917 --> 03:24:22,885 staff conversing occupied. 6176 03:24:22,885 --> 03:24:25,285 I'm just wondering if 6177 03:24:27,223 --> 03:24:27,890 the comments if there was 6178 03:24:27,890 --> 03:24:28,524 something that needed to be 6179 03:24:28,524 --> 03:24:29,225 said on the record I'm not 6180 03:24:29,225 --> 03:24:31,327 we're not aware of anything in 6181 03:24:31,327 --> 03:24:32,610 the code that says that they 6182 03:24:32,610 --> 03:24:32,795 have to submit the paperwork at 6183 03:24:32,795 --> 03:24:33,195 the time that they submit their 6184 03:24:33,195 --> 03:24:33,496 application. 6185 03:24:33,496 --> 03:24:35,496 Okay. 6186 03:24:38,234 --> 03:24:40,234 All right. 6187 03:24:47,509 --> 03:24:48,244 I I'm wondering if the well, as 6188 03:24:48,244 --> 03:24:51,844 you heard what they were saying 6189 03:24:52,748 --> 03:24:53,416 and you saw the evidence in 6190 03:24:53,416 --> 03:24:54,490 front of you and the points 6191 03:24:54,490 --> 03:24:56,449 that the appellant's were 6192 03:24:57,519 --> 03:24:58,220 putting forward, is there 6193 03:24:58,220 --> 03:25:01,820 anything you would like to add 6194 03:25:02,592 --> 03:25:03,326 so that I can make my decision 6195 03:25:03,326 --> 03:25:04,260 as to whether their points were 6196 03:25:04,260 --> 03:25:07,260 valid or invalid Because it 6197 03:25:08,970 --> 03:25:08,765 seems I mean I know that's hard 6198 03:25:08,765 --> 03:25:09,431 work because you have to go 6199 03:25:09,431 --> 03:25:12,201 through a lot of hoops with 6200 03:25:12,201 --> 03:25:12,902 the city attorney's office with 6201 03:25:12,902 --> 03:25:13,769 the departments to figure out 6202 03:25:13,769 --> 03:25:17,730 what's going on it I feel like 6203 03:25:17,730 --> 03:25:17,874 the place I've been put in is 6204 03:25:17,874 --> 03:25:21,643 between a rock and a hard place 6205 03:25:21,643 --> 03:25:22,412 where we have a valid appeal 6206 03:25:22,412 --> 03:25:23,145 because they filed a piece of 6207 03:25:23,145 --> 03:25:23,813 paper correctly but didn't give 6208 03:25:23,813 --> 03:25:26,282 staff the ability to discern 6209 03:25:26,282 --> 03:25:26,649 what was correct versus 6210 03:25:26,649 --> 03:25:27,349 incorrect. 6211 03:25:27,349 --> 03:25:28,117 And we have an applicant who 6212 03:25:28,117 --> 03:25:31,117 has really worked hard to 6213 03:25:31,420 --> 03:25:32,154 answer a million questions that 6214 03:25:32,154 --> 03:25:35,325 undeniably the city puts him in 6215 03:25:35,325 --> 03:25:37,725 place for small businesses. 6216 03:25:40,196 --> 03:25:44,396 So do you have any response to 6217 03:25:44,934 --> 03:25:45,735 the appellants that I can hear 6218 03:25:45,735 --> 03:25:48,135 and making my determination 6219 03:25:49,973 --> 03:25:50,640 What I can say is that 6220 03:25:50,640 --> 03:25:53,400 the baseline conditions are 6221 03:25:54,377 --> 03:25:55,144 the restaurant that is existing 6222 03:25:55,144 --> 03:25:55,879 and including the noise that is 6223 03:25:55,879 --> 03:25:58,879 already in the restaurant And 6224 03:25:59,449 --> 03:26:00,183 we analyzed the what if whether 6225 03:26:00,183 --> 03:26:03,183 the whether the secretary would 6226 03:26:04,420 --> 03:26:05,120 cause an increase in noise and 6227 03:26:05,120 --> 03:26:05,587 we determined that that would 6228 03:26:05,587 --> 03:26:07,987 not be the case. 6229 03:26:08,892 --> 03:26:09,659 Okay. 6230 03:26:09,659 --> 03:26:10,159 So just last question for 6231 03:26:10,159 --> 03:26:12,159 the city attorney. 6232 03:26:13,829 --> 03:26:14,597 So there's nothing that's a 6233 03:26:14,597 --> 03:26:18,197 waiver of your appeal rights in 6234 03:26:18,768 --> 03:26:21,768 this process for failing to 6235 03:26:22,500 --> 03:26:22,939 supply evidence or reasoning 6236 03:26:22,939 --> 03:26:27,139 with a piece of paper where you 6237 03:26:27,410 --> 03:26:28,144 check boxes. 6238 03:26:28,144 --> 03:26:28,778 >> The code does not require 6239 03:26:28,778 --> 03:26:31,178 submission of arguments at 6240 03:26:31,314 --> 03:26:31,947 the time you submit your form. 6241 03:26:31,947 --> 03:26:33,947 >> I understand. 6242 03:26:36,353 --> 03:26:37,860 Okay. 6243 03:26:37,860 --> 03:26:37,487 To add to that Councilmember 6244 03:26:37,487 --> 03:26:39,487 Yes please. 6245 03:26:40,623 --> 03:26:41,424 There is some case law that 6246 03:26:41,424 --> 03:26:43,824 discusses this but generally 6247 03:26:46,290 --> 03:26:46,762 the applicant can make 6248 03:26:46,762 --> 03:26:47,397 additional arguments the day of 6249 03:26:47,397 --> 03:26:50,734 the hearing so that is not 6250 03:26:50,734 --> 03:26:51,267 legally prohibited or shortly 6251 03:26:51,267 --> 03:26:51,901 before the hearing. 6252 03:26:51,901 --> 03:26:54,301 However, there's always an 6253 03:26:55,938 --> 03:26:56,573 option for the Council to 6254 03:26:56,573 --> 03:26:58,842 continue the item to allow 6255 03:26:58,842 --> 03:27:01,842 staff more time to evaluate 6256 03:27:08,418 --> 03:27:08,751 what's been recently brought up 6257 03:27:08,751 --> 03:27:09,418 . 6258 03:27:09,418 --> 03:27:12,418 Thank you for that answer. 6259 03:27:14,490 --> 03:27:15,292 I feel like well my my analysis 6260 03:27:15,292 --> 03:27:18,892 of the situation is that it's 6261 03:27:19,362 --> 03:27:20,129 it's I'm in a position where I 6262 03:27:20,129 --> 03:27:23,129 can't make a decision without 6263 03:27:24,200 --> 03:27:24,901 the staff's ability to respond 6264 03:27:24,901 --> 03:27:27,901 to what in the presentation 6265 03:27:28,171 --> 03:27:29,720 sounded like valid arguments. 6266 03:27:29,720 --> 03:27:33,430 But on top of that to your 6267 03:27:33,430 --> 03:27:33,709 point, MISS Fitzgerald, 6268 03:27:33,709 --> 03:27:34,444 the without that information 6269 03:27:34,444 --> 03:27:37,444 the applicant also can't defend 6270 03:27:37,747 --> 03:27:38,281 themselves from those 6271 03:27:38,281 --> 03:27:39,150 allegations as well. 6272 03:27:39,150 --> 03:27:43,215 So we're in a place where it 6273 03:27:44,554 --> 03:27:45,455 seems like the process has 6274 03:27:45,455 --> 03:27:46,156 fallen apart a bit or at least 6275 03:27:46,156 --> 03:27:46,956 or at least the rules we have 6276 03:27:46,956 --> 03:27:49,259 in place don't allow us to 6277 03:27:49,259 --> 03:27:50,270 discern very well. 6278 03:27:50,270 --> 03:27:51,610 I won't belabor it any further. 6279 03:27:51,610 --> 03:27:54,765 I think from a policy point of 6280 03:27:54,765 --> 03:27:55,498 view my I think that to be able 6281 03:27:55,498 --> 03:27:58,602 to give both sides the fairness 6282 03:27:58,602 --> 03:27:59,360 of it there should be a 6283 03:27:59,360 --> 03:27:59,769 continuance. 6284 03:27:59,769 --> 03:28:00,370 But since that's not the motion 6285 03:28:00,370 --> 03:28:03,970 on the floor I'll and my 6286 03:28:03,974 --> 03:28:04,674 comments and I appreciate 6287 03:28:04,674 --> 03:28:07,177 the council PRESIDENT For his 6288 03:28:07,177 --> 03:28:09,577 questions and discernment thank 6289 03:28:13,116 --> 03:28:13,517 you. 6290 03:28:13,517 --> 03:28:14,217 All right. 6291 03:28:14,217 --> 03:28:14,918 I don't see anybody else in 6292 03:28:14,918 --> 03:28:17,186 lights but I will say member 6293 03:28:17,186 --> 03:28:17,821 can't be if you want to work 6294 03:28:17,821 --> 03:28:18,622 together to raise the bar. 6295 03:28:18,622 --> 03:28:22,226 I am old enough to remember a 6296 03:28:22,226 --> 03:28:22,893 time when appeals were actually 6297 03:28:22,893 --> 03:28:23,360 judged whether they in fact 6298 03:28:23,360 --> 03:28:25,360 were sufficient. 6299 03:28:26,429 --> 03:28:27,970 Maybe it was the fact that we 6300 03:28:27,970 --> 03:28:27,831 raised the fee to a thousand 6301 03:28:27,831 --> 03:28:31,134 bucks That MAY have changed our 6302 03:28:31,134 --> 03:28:31,835 thinking but I think there is 6303 03:28:31,835 --> 03:28:34,835 some validity going forward to 6304 03:28:35,872 --> 03:28:36,940 pursue that. 6305 03:28:36,940 --> 03:28:40,444 So so I appreciate your line of 6306 03:28:40,444 --> 03:28:41,178 questioning there. 6307 03:28:41,178 --> 03:28:43,578 >> Council Member Foster it 6308 03:28:45,449 --> 03:28:46,183 just a quick question and I 6309 03:28:46,183 --> 03:28:49,183 guess I'm unclear on violations 6310 03:28:50,654 --> 03:28:53,654 versus complaints I guess are 6311 03:28:54,925 --> 03:28:58,525 there were there no were there 6312 03:28:59,529 --> 03:29:00,197 no violations on record or. 6313 03:29:00,197 --> 03:29:01,865 Well, I'm not understanding 6314 03:29:01,865 --> 03:29:04,865 exactly where we stand with 6315 03:29:07,370 --> 03:29:07,738 that. 6316 03:29:07,738 --> 03:29:08,439 So you're referring to noise 6317 03:29:08,439 --> 03:29:10,839 complaints versus other types 6318 03:29:11,908 --> 03:29:12,609 of violations that perhaps So 6319 03:29:12,609 --> 03:29:16,209 the what we are discussing in 6320 03:29:16,279 --> 03:29:19,279 I'm assuming the issue is 6321 03:29:21,180 --> 03:29:21,685 the noise is kind of as we're 6322 03:29:21,685 --> 03:29:22,352 looking at the environmental 6323 03:29:22,352 --> 03:29:22,886 part of this at least that's 6324 03:29:22,886 --> 03:29:25,286 what I gathered from 6325 03:29:26,123 --> 03:29:29,123 the conversation and I'm trying 6326 03:29:31,128 --> 03:29:31,861 to understand And I think if 6327 03:29:31,861 --> 03:29:35,461 the owner's here when he showed 6328 03:29:35,865 --> 03:29:36,866 his presentation there was a 6329 03:29:36,866 --> 03:29:40,170 note of a violation that said 6330 03:29:40,170 --> 03:29:40,704 1000 I think I said one k if I 6331 03:29:40,704 --> 03:29:42,704 remember correctly. 6332 03:29:43,674 --> 03:29:44,741 So I guess my question would be 6333 03:29:44,741 --> 03:29:48,341 do we have a record of 6334 03:29:48,979 --> 03:29:49,946 violations? 6335 03:29:49,946 --> 03:29:52,946 >> So I'm sorry just just 6336 03:29:54,180 --> 03:29:55,151 actual violations. 6337 03:29:55,151 --> 03:29:58,751 Project is submitted in part in 6338 03:29:59,789 --> 03:30:00,457 response to the st3 being out 6339 03:30:00,457 --> 03:30:04,570 there in need of a permit. 6340 03:30:04,228 --> 03:30:07,228 They were cited for having 6341 03:30:08,465 --> 03:30:09,166 unpermitted st3 Okay And so 6342 03:30:09,166 --> 03:30:09,867 that was that violation was 6343 03:30:09,867 --> 03:30:12,267 cited by development services 6344 03:30:13,436 --> 03:30:14,700 noise complaints go to 6345 03:30:14,700 --> 03:30:14,638 the police department so I 6346 03:30:14,638 --> 03:30:16,638 wouldn't have in-depth 6347 03:30:18,242 --> 03:30:18,542 information on that at this 6348 03:30:18,542 --> 03:30:18,876 time. 6349 03:30:18,876 --> 03:30:19,777 >> Okay. 6350 03:30:19,777 --> 03:30:23,180 So as it went through this 6351 03:30:23,180 --> 03:30:23,881 process, at no point in time 6352 03:30:23,881 --> 03:30:27,284 did you guys say Hey, Senegal 6353 03:30:27,284 --> 03:30:27,885 pd Do we have any any valid 6354 03:30:27,885 --> 03:30:29,885 findings regarding noise 6355 03:30:31,756 --> 03:30:32,523 complaints? 6356 03:30:32,523 --> 03:30:35,523 I don't believe we would 6357 03:30:36,794 --> 03:30:37,940 consider that a secret issue. 6358 03:30:37,940 --> 03:30:39,940 Okay. 6359 03:30:42,650 --> 03:30:42,533 Courtney That wouldn't be an 6360 03:30:42,533 --> 03:30:43,234 issue now Okay. 6361 03:30:43,234 --> 03:30:44,100 >> We'll do at the end of 6362 03:30:44,100 --> 03:30:46,570 the day as we look at 6363 03:30:46,570 --> 03:30:47,305 the process, this is going to 6364 03:30:47,305 --> 03:30:50,674 come back before council with I 6365 03:30:50,674 --> 03:30:51,342 guess a if I understand this a 6366 03:30:51,342 --> 03:30:52,430 revised sequel determination 6367 03:30:52,430 --> 03:30:55,643 and then council makes a final 6368 03:30:55,746 --> 03:30:56,714 decision Is regards to permit 6369 03:30:56,714 --> 03:31:00,914 status I guess I'll say Is that 6370 03:31:01,152 --> 03:31:04,752 correct If you if the council 6371 03:31:05,489 --> 03:31:05,789 upholds the appeal, fine. 6372 03:31:05,789 --> 03:31:06,900 Yes. 6373 03:31:06,900 --> 03:31:06,524 Okay. 6374 03:31:06,524 --> 03:31:08,524 All right. 6375 03:31:10,729 --> 03:31:11,428 Thank you. 6376 03:31:11,428 --> 03:31:11,729 >> Council member Campo again 6377 03:31:11,729 --> 03:31:12,429 sorry. 6378 03:31:12,429 --> 03:31:14,732 Just briefly So if the motion 6379 03:31:14,732 --> 03:31:18,932 passes come back to us with a 6380 03:31:18,970 --> 03:31:19,670 different resolution that would 6381 03:31:19,670 --> 03:31:20,538 find that it does it does 6382 03:31:20,538 --> 03:31:24,138 qualify under Secord that it is 6383 03:31:24,508 --> 03:31:28,108 impacted or rather let me state 6384 03:31:28,945 --> 03:31:31,345 it correctly saying that 6385 03:31:33,284 --> 03:31:33,685 the project is not exempt from 6386 03:31:33,685 --> 03:31:34,180 a sequel. 6387 03:31:34,180 --> 03:31:34,719 Correct? 6388 03:31:34,719 --> 03:31:37,719 That's what the new resolution 6389 03:31:38,560 --> 03:31:38,789 would say because your 6390 03:31:38,789 --> 03:31:41,189 determination from staff was 6391 03:31:43,227 --> 03:31:43,795 that environmental 6392 03:31:43,795 --> 03:31:44,428 determination is that 6393 03:31:44,428 --> 03:31:44,762 the project is exempt from 6394 03:31:44,762 --> 03:31:45,496 sequel. 6395 03:31:45,496 --> 03:31:48,166 So you're going to come back to 6396 03:31:48,166 --> 03:31:48,766 us with one saying it's not 6397 03:31:48,766 --> 03:31:51,166 exempt from sequel, not 6398 03:31:52,269 --> 03:31:52,837 necessarily. 6399 03:31:52,837 --> 03:31:53,571 It just depends on 6400 03:31:53,571 --> 03:31:53,905 the environmental analysis that 6401 03:31:53,905 --> 03:31:55,905 is done. 6402 03:31:56,374 --> 03:31:56,807 We could come back with another 6403 03:31:56,807 --> 03:31:57,208 exemption. 6404 03:31:57,208 --> 03:31:59,208 Understood. 6405 03:32:01,579 --> 03:32:03,579 Okay. 6406 03:32:06,184 --> 03:32:08,584 Understanding that this isn't 6407 03:32:11,289 --> 03:32:11,889 the understanding that I I've 6408 03:32:11,889 --> 03:32:12,523 total respect for what 6409 03:32:12,523 --> 03:32:13,910 the council presidents put 6410 03:32:13,910 --> 03:32:16,910 before us as a motion. 6411 03:32:16,940 --> 03:32:16,761 I'm finding that the complete 6412 03:32:16,761 --> 03:32:19,161 failure to provide evidence 6413 03:32:21,232 --> 03:32:21,933 beforehand is what is really 6414 03:32:21,933 --> 03:32:22,434 sticking in my mind as a 6415 03:32:22,434 --> 03:32:24,434 procedural issue. 6416 03:32:26,400 --> 03:32:26,738 I know that that's not a 6417 03:32:26,738 --> 03:32:30,175 requirement we have but just as 6418 03:32:30,175 --> 03:32:30,709 a pure matter of fairness, I 6419 03:32:30,709 --> 03:32:31,342 sympathize with what 6420 03:32:31,342 --> 03:32:32,430 the community is saying in 6421 03:32:32,430 --> 03:32:32,710 terms of their concerns but I 6422 03:32:32,710 --> 03:32:35,547 feel like we have to hold 6423 03:32:35,547 --> 03:32:36,147 applicants and appellants to 6424 03:32:36,147 --> 03:32:38,547 turning in the evidence 6425 03:32:40,585 --> 03:32:41,420 appropriately for discernment. 6426 03:32:41,420 --> 03:32:42,220 So I can't bring myself to vote 6427 03:32:42,220 --> 03:32:45,156 in favor of the motion at this 6428 03:32:45,156 --> 03:32:45,824 point just from a pure 6429 03:32:45,824 --> 03:32:46,491 philosophical point of view. 6430 03:32:46,491 --> 03:32:47,225 I don't disagree with where 6431 03:32:47,225 --> 03:32:50,195 the council PRESIDENT Is coming 6432 03:32:50,195 --> 03:32:50,996 from and I respect his motion 6433 03:32:50,996 --> 03:32:51,262 but I'm going to have to vote 6434 03:32:51,262 --> 03:32:51,629 no. 6435 03:32:51,629 --> 03:32:52,363 All right. 6436 03:32:52,363 --> 03:32:55,299 I can appreciate that and I 6437 03:32:55,299 --> 03:32:55,866 appreciate your candor not 6438 03:32:55,866 --> 03:32:56,266 seeing anybody else in 6439 03:32:56,266 --> 03:32:58,266 the lights. 6440 03:33:01,372 --> 03:33:05,572 We have a motion by myself and 6441 03:33:06,892 --> 03:33:07,540 a second by council member 6442 03:33:07,540 --> 03:33:07,222 Campbell up on the lights to 6443 03:33:07,222 --> 03:33:07,390 grant the appeal and set aside 6444 03:33:07,390 --> 03:33:07,556 the environmental 6445 03:33:07,556 --> 03:33:07,733 determination. 6446 03:33:07,733 --> 03:33:07,907 Clerk Please call the vote I'm 6447 03:33:07,907 --> 03:33:10,907 sorry The voting system Please 6448 03:33:13,919 --> 03:33:14,419 cast your vote. 6449 03:33:14,419 --> 03:33:16,419 I'm sorry. 6450 03:33:16,488 --> 03:33:20,688 Can you give me your vote for 6451 03:33:21,293 --> 03:33:23,293 the record please? 6452 03:33:27,980 --> 03:33:27,799 That passes 8 to 1 with Council 6453 03:33:27,799 --> 03:33:30,799 member Campion voting no Thank 6454 03:33:31,360 --> 03:33:31,336 you Council PRESIDENT All right 6455 03:33:31,336 --> 03:33:31,837 . 6456 03:33:31,837 --> 03:33:32,570 Thank you again. 6457 03:33:32,570 --> 03:33:32,837 Thank you everybody that showed 6458 03:33:32,837 --> 03:33:33,572 up. 6459 03:33:33,572 --> 03:33:36,274 Thank you to staff for the good 6460 03:33:36,274 --> 03:33:38,674 work that you did. 6461 03:33:40,311 --> 03:33:41,112 So with that please introduce 6462 03:33:41,112 --> 03:33:41,779 item 201 Item 2a1 is to 6463 03:33:41,779 --> 03:33:44,179 determine and declare posted 6464 03:33:45,383 --> 03:33:46,840 speed limits throughout 6465 03:33:46,840 --> 03:33:46,750 the City of San Diego Vision 6466 03:33:46,750 --> 03:33:49,750 zero Update and Findings of 6467 03:33:50,255 --> 03:33:50,956 Speed a management Plan If 6468 03:33:50,956 --> 03:33:51,656 you'd like to speak on this 6469 03:33:51,656 --> 03:33:54,927 item now is the time to submit 6470 03:33:54,927 --> 03:33:55,727 your speakers up to the front 6471 03:33:55,727 --> 03:33:56,328 of the room in the clear box or 6472 03:33:56,328 --> 03:33:58,728 if you are participating 6473 03:33:59,631 --> 03:34:00,298 remotely please be sure to 6474 03:34:00,298 --> 03:34:00,966 raise your hand by pressing 6475 03:34:00,966 --> 03:34:01,333 Star nine or the raise your 6476 03:34:01,333 --> 03:34:03,333 hand icon. 6477 03:34:04,135 --> 03:34:04,436 Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All 6478 03:34:04,436 --> 03:34:06,436 right. 6479 03:34:10,107 --> 03:34:10,776 Thank you So staff you don't 6480 03:34:10,776 --> 03:34:11,543 need to rush up too fast. 6481 03:34:11,543 --> 03:34:15,143 We're going to let the chambers 6482 03:34:34,766 --> 03:34:37,166 kind of empty out. 6483 03:34:58,490 --> 03:35:00,490 Yeah, yeah. 6484 03:35:17,343 --> 03:35:18,430 So you're out that if you 6485 03:35:18,430 --> 03:35:20,443 wouldn't mind taking your 6486 03:35:22,214 --> 03:35:22,881 conversation into the foyer or 6487 03:35:22,881 --> 03:35:25,281 down the elevator into 6488 03:35:26,584 --> 03:35:28,584 the lobby. 6489 03:35:30,155 --> 03:35:30,889 All right, Staff item 201 6490 03:35:30,889 --> 03:35:31,590 please introduce yourselves for 6491 03:35:31,590 --> 03:35:34,559 the record and let us know how 6492 03:35:34,559 --> 03:35:35,270 much time you need. 6493 03:35:35,270 --> 03:35:37,270 Good afternoon. 6494 03:35:40,199 --> 03:35:40,866 Council PRESIDENT Like other 6495 03:35:40,866 --> 03:35:41,267 council members, my name is 6496 03:35:41,267 --> 03:35:43,267 Alex Waldo. 6497 03:35:44,403 --> 03:35:45,300 I'm the interim deputy director 6498 03:35:45,300 --> 03:35:45,404 with the Transportation 6499 03:35:45,404 --> 03:35:46,138 Department. 6500 03:35:46,138 --> 03:35:49,608 i am joined by my colleague Eva 6501 03:35:49,608 --> 03:35:50,309 Hauser, program manager with 6502 03:35:50,309 --> 03:35:52,309 the Transportation Department 6503 03:35:54,213 --> 03:35:54,780 as well and Naomi Chavez, 6504 03:35:54,780 --> 03:35:56,780 interim director tdi. 6505 03:35:57,182 --> 03:36:00,182 And we will need 15 minutes. 6506 03:36:01,587 --> 03:36:04,587 >> All right, when you're ready 6507 03:36:06,759 --> 03:36:07,459 By way of establishing a 6508 03:36:07,459 --> 03:36:10,459 background, the city adopted a 6509 03:36:11,163 --> 03:36:11,464 Vision Zero policy back in 2015 6510 03:36:11,464 --> 03:36:12,197 . 6511 03:36:12,197 --> 03:36:12,898 The goal of Vision Zero is to 6512 03:36:12,898 --> 03:36:15,298 eliminate severe injuries and 6513 03:36:16,602 --> 03:36:17,203 fatalities from traffic related 6514 03:36:17,203 --> 03:36:19,603 crashes within the city. 6515 03:36:21,139 --> 03:36:21,840 Vision Zero is a citywide 6516 03:36:21,840 --> 03:36:22,541 effort with contributions from 6517 03:36:22,541 --> 03:36:24,941 many different departments as 6518 03:36:25,444 --> 03:36:26,780 listed on the photo here 6519 03:36:26,780 --> 03:36:28,780 including police planning, 6520 03:36:30,116 --> 03:36:30,749 communications development 6521 03:36:30,749 --> 03:36:31,283 services, engineering and 6522 03:36:31,283 --> 03:36:33,283 capital projects and 6523 03:36:35,721 --> 03:36:36,422 Transportation Department. 6524 03:36:36,422 --> 03:36:37,189 >> The city has tracked a 6525 03:36:37,189 --> 03:36:40,189 number of severe injuries and 6526 03:36:40,859 --> 03:36:41,527 fatalities each year since 6527 03:36:41,527 --> 03:36:44,527 the adoption of Vision Zero. 6528 03:36:45,230 --> 03:36:45,731 There's clearly still a lot 6529 03:36:45,731 --> 03:36:46,599 more work to do. 6530 03:36:46,599 --> 03:36:49,335 But this data here shows if you 6531 03:36:49,335 --> 03:36:50,680 add a trend line, the total 6532 03:36:50,680 --> 03:36:52,972 fatal and severe injury crashes 6533 03:36:52,972 --> 03:36:53,373 have decreased in San Diego 6534 03:36:53,373 --> 03:36:53,973 since 2018. 6535 03:36:53,973 --> 03:36:56,373 This progress stands in 6536 03:36:58,110 --> 03:36:58,778 contrast to the national trends 6537 03:36:58,778 --> 03:36:59,378 which have seen increases in 6538 03:36:59,378 --> 03:36:59,979 fatalities and injuries 6539 03:36:59,979 --> 03:37:02,379 especially in the years 6540 03:37:06,118 --> 03:37:06,436 following the covid 19 pandemic 6541 03:37:06,436 --> 03:37:08,436 . 6542 03:37:11,230 --> 03:37:11,724 >> All crashes matter but this 6543 03:37:11,724 --> 03:37:12,425 data here shows that people 6544 03:37:12,425 --> 03:37:14,825 walking are overrepresented in 6545 03:37:16,462 --> 03:37:17,620 serious crashes and that's 6546 03:37:17,620 --> 03:37:17,730 because they're the most 6547 03:37:17,730 --> 03:37:19,730 vulnerable when interacting 6548 03:37:20,800 --> 03:37:22,800 with vehicle traffic. 6549 03:37:25,871 --> 03:37:26,506 The city's Vision Zero 6550 03:37:26,506 --> 03:37:27,239 Strategic Plan is based on 6551 03:37:27,239 --> 03:37:29,639 the following strategies that's 6552 03:37:30,777 --> 03:37:31,544 listed here and this is what 6553 03:37:31,544 --> 03:37:35,480 guides our work Every day we'll 6554 03:37:35,480 --> 03:37:35,815 be reviewing these elements in 6555 03:37:35,815 --> 03:37:39,415 more detail in the next few 6556 03:37:39,885 --> 03:37:41,885 slides. 6557 03:37:43,189 --> 03:37:43,923 The city's Vision Zero 6558 03:37:43,923 --> 03:37:44,424 engineering efforts are at work 6559 03:37:44,424 --> 03:37:46,424 every single day. 6560 03:37:48,628 --> 03:37:49,295 We are responding to citizen 6561 03:37:49,295 --> 03:37:51,695 requests which total nearly 6562 03:37:53,366 --> 03:37:54,670 7000 requests annually along 6563 03:37:54,670 --> 03:37:56,467 with evaluating crash history 6564 03:37:57,937 --> 03:37:58,638 at high incident locations we 6565 03:37:58,638 --> 03:37:59,380 review crashes that result in 6566 03:37:59,380 --> 03:38:01,380 fatalities. 6567 03:38:03,750 --> 03:38:03,542 We conduct proactive systemwide 6568 03:38:03,542 --> 03:38:05,542 safety analysis. 6569 03:38:07,146 --> 03:38:07,813 We implement over 2000 traffic 6570 03:38:07,813 --> 03:38:08,514 safety improvements annually 6571 03:38:08,514 --> 03:38:11,514 and we also develop additional 6572 03:38:11,651 --> 03:38:14,510 plans including the upcoming 6573 03:38:16,656 --> 03:38:17,323 speed management plan. 6574 03:38:17,323 --> 03:38:19,723 >> This slide talks to 6575 03:38:21,930 --> 03:38:21,694 the volume of work that happens 6576 03:38:21,694 --> 03:38:22,328 daily in our department. 6577 03:38:22,328 --> 03:38:24,728 Despite our best efforts, 6578 03:38:25,865 --> 03:38:26,499 the Department does not have 6579 03:38:26,499 --> 03:38:28,899 the resources necessary to 6580 03:38:30,637 --> 03:38:31,370 respond to all of the needs in 6581 03:38:31,370 --> 03:38:33,370 the city. 6582 03:38:34,907 --> 03:38:35,675 There is currently a need of 6583 03:38:35,675 --> 03:38:36,376 $212 million annually to build 6584 03:38:36,376 --> 03:38:39,376 the Vision Zero cap projects. 6585 03:38:39,779 --> 03:38:40,413 We currently have a backlog of 6586 03:38:40,413 --> 03:38:41,130 over 2300 traffic service 6587 03:38:41,130 --> 03:38:43,130 requests for engineering 6588 03:38:45,170 --> 03:38:45,751 evaluations and a backlog of 6589 03:38:45,751 --> 03:38:47,751 nearly 2000 traffic improvement 6590 03:38:48,621 --> 03:38:49,756 installations. 6591 03:38:49,756 --> 03:38:53,956 A lot of what I've discussed so 6592 03:38:54,194 --> 03:38:54,894 far has been related to 6593 03:38:54,894 --> 03:38:55,528 engineering but there are two 6594 03:38:55,528 --> 03:38:57,928 other components that are 6595 03:38:59,733 --> 03:39:00,433 critical to help us meet our 6596 03:39:00,433 --> 03:39:04,330 vision zero goals and that is 6597 03:39:04,304 --> 03:39:04,971 education and enforcement. 6598 03:39:04,971 --> 03:39:05,705 This slide illustrates just 6599 03:39:05,705 --> 03:39:08,705 briefly the role of enforcement 6600 03:39:09,442 --> 03:39:09,743 in dealing with speeds on our 6601 03:39:09,743 --> 03:39:10,309 roads. 6602 03:39:10,309 --> 03:39:12,709 We partner with police 6603 03:39:13,479 --> 03:39:14,180 department and communications 6604 03:39:14,180 --> 03:39:14,881 department to perform traffic 6605 03:39:14,881 --> 03:39:16,749 enforcement in targeted areas 6606 03:39:16,749 --> 03:39:19,749 and educate the community on 6607 03:39:21,855 --> 03:39:22,455 roadway safety, education, 6608 03:39:22,455 --> 03:39:24,855 community and creating a 6609 03:39:26,859 --> 03:39:27,694 culture of safety. 6610 03:39:27,694 --> 03:39:28,395 Make up the remaining portions 6611 03:39:28,395 --> 03:39:31,395 of the strategic plan focusing 6612 03:39:31,865 --> 03:39:32,565 on how people experience 6613 03:39:32,565 --> 03:39:33,299 the city's efforts, apply them 6614 03:39:33,299 --> 03:39:33,700 into their daily lives and know 6615 03:39:33,700 --> 03:39:35,700 where to go. 6616 03:39:36,937 --> 03:39:37,603 For more information. 6617 03:39:37,603 --> 03:39:38,338 And again, the city's 6618 03:39:38,338 --> 03:39:38,871 communications department works 6619 03:39:38,871 --> 03:39:40,871 collaboratively with 6620 03:39:42,142 --> 03:39:42,876 transportation, engineering and 6621 03:39:42,876 --> 03:39:43,576 police to provide these updates 6622 03:39:43,576 --> 03:39:46,576 and services to residents and 6623 03:39:47,130 --> 03:39:49,130 the community. 6624 03:39:51,651 --> 03:39:52,252 The city's vision Zero 6625 03:39:52,252 --> 03:39:52,886 Strategic Plan uses many 6626 03:39:52,886 --> 03:39:53,219 elements to address street 6627 03:39:53,219 --> 03:39:55,219 safety. 6628 03:39:56,923 --> 03:39:57,657 What I'll be focusing on now is 6629 03:39:57,657 --> 03:40:01,194 our ability to make our changes 6630 03:40:01,194 --> 03:40:01,862 to speed limits using recent 6631 03:40:01,862 --> 03:40:02,562 changes in state legislation 6632 03:40:02,562 --> 03:40:06,162 and the findings of the speed 6633 03:40:06,632 --> 03:40:10,370 management plan To give a bit 6634 03:40:10,370 --> 03:40:10,737 of a background In 2022 6635 03:40:10,737 --> 03:40:14,337 the city applied for the safe 6636 03:40:14,508 --> 03:40:15,309 streets for all federal grant 6637 03:40:15,309 --> 03:40:16,900 and was awarded a three part 6638 03:40:16,900 --> 03:40:18,409 award to develop supplemental 6639 03:40:19,879 --> 03:40:20,347 plans to support a vision Zero 6640 03:40:20,347 --> 03:40:20,980 strategic plan. 6641 03:40:20,980 --> 03:40:21,548 One of those elements was 6642 03:40:21,548 --> 03:40:22,449 the preparation of a 6643 03:40:22,449 --> 03:40:24,449 comprehensive speed management 6644 03:40:27,420 --> 03:40:28,550 plan. 6645 03:40:28,550 --> 03:40:28,755 >> To give additional 6646 03:40:28,755 --> 03:40:31,755 background on how speed limits 6647 03:40:32,959 --> 03:40:33,660 are set, Transportation 6648 03:40:33,660 --> 03:40:36,600 Department is responsible for 6649 03:40:37,230 --> 03:40:37,931 performing the speed surveys to 6650 03:40:37,931 --> 03:40:40,331 establish the speed limits 6651 03:40:41,501 --> 03:40:42,569 citywide The speed surveys are 6652 03:40:42,569 --> 03:40:45,706 done on a 7 to 14 year cycle 6653 03:40:45,706 --> 03:40:46,573 about 842 miles are surveyed. 6654 03:40:46,573 --> 03:40:49,877 That's a quarter of the street 6655 03:40:49,877 --> 03:40:50,577 network Speed limits are based 6656 03:40:50,577 --> 03:40:53,577 on the 85th percentile That's 6657 03:40:54,414 --> 03:40:55,115 the speed at or below which 85% 6658 03:40:55,115 --> 03:40:55,816 of drivers are traveling under 6659 03:40:55,816 --> 03:40:58,816 free flow conditions And not 6660 03:40:59,887 --> 03:41:00,254 all of our street network are 6661 03:41:00,254 --> 03:41:02,254 surveyed. 6662 03:41:03,290 --> 03:41:03,990 Any on and surveyed street are 6663 03:41:03,990 --> 03:41:07,561 set at 25mph by default and 6664 03:41:07,561 --> 03:41:08,950 these are mostly our 6665 03:41:08,950 --> 03:41:08,762 residential streets. 6666 03:41:08,762 --> 03:41:09,429 California vehicle code does 6667 03:41:09,429 --> 03:41:12,429 require that speed limits be 6668 03:41:13,330 --> 03:41:13,734 established by resolution. 6669 03:41:13,734 --> 03:41:16,734 So any reductions that we're 6670 03:41:17,471 --> 03:41:18,539 proposing as part of this plan 6671 03:41:18,539 --> 03:41:22,409 will have to be updated by city 6672 03:41:22,409 --> 03:41:23,377 council. 6673 03:41:23,377 --> 03:41:26,977 This slide is a reminder that 6674 03:41:27,714 --> 03:41:28,448 effective speed management is 6675 03:41:28,448 --> 03:41:28,749 more than just about the posted 6676 03:41:28,749 --> 03:41:30,749 speed. 6677 03:41:33,530 --> 03:41:33,753 It's also about the conditions 6678 03:41:33,753 --> 03:41:36,753 that encourage safe speeds and 6679 03:41:37,570 --> 03:41:37,725 provide those safe crossings. 6680 03:41:37,725 --> 03:41:38,459 The city's objective with 6681 03:41:38,459 --> 03:41:41,629 the speed management plan is to 6682 03:41:41,629 --> 03:41:42,263 implement the speed reductions 6683 03:41:42,263 --> 03:41:42,663 with changes to the built 6684 03:41:42,663 --> 03:41:44,663 environment. 6685 03:41:46,967 --> 03:41:47,601 The photos shown here are our 6686 03:41:47,601 --> 03:41:48,269 most prominent vision Zero 6687 03:41:48,269 --> 03:41:50,669 projects and their evolution 6688 03:41:51,739 --> 03:41:52,439 from traditional capital 6689 03:41:52,439 --> 03:41:53,600 programing to our quick build 6690 03:41:53,600 --> 03:41:55,600 installation of safety 6691 03:41:57,100 --> 03:41:57,545 improvements The Quick Build 6692 03:41:57,545 --> 03:41:58,245 Roundabout something 6693 03:41:58,245 --> 03:42:00,245 the Transportation Department 6694 03:42:01,716 --> 03:42:02,348 can build quickly in-house and 6695 03:42:02,348 --> 03:42:04,348 significantly cheaper than 6696 03:42:06,319 --> 03:42:06,620 the traditional build projects 6697 03:42:06,620 --> 03:42:07,254 . 6698 03:42:07,254 --> 03:42:07,988 The urgency that we're all 6699 03:42:07,988 --> 03:42:10,988 feeling with Vision Zero really 6700 03:42:11,291 --> 03:42:11,959 pushes our department to move 6701 03:42:11,959 --> 03:42:14,359 faster with less resources. 6702 03:42:15,496 --> 03:42:16,163 Hence the department is 6703 03:42:16,163 --> 03:42:16,897 actively working on more of 6704 03:42:16,897 --> 03:42:19,897 these quick build facilities In 6705 03:42:20,670 --> 03:42:20,735 addition to finishing up 6706 03:42:20,735 --> 03:42:23,135 several of these traditional 6707 03:42:25,106 --> 03:42:25,872 build projects, the speed 6708 03:42:25,872 --> 03:42:28,872 management plan is very data 6709 03:42:29,777 --> 03:42:30,377 driven. 6710 03:42:30,377 --> 03:42:31,450 It's using the data and 6711 03:42:31,450 --> 03:42:33,445 information from the city's 6712 03:42:34,615 --> 03:42:35,282 systemic safety analysis. 6713 03:42:35,282 --> 03:42:35,949 That evaluation essentially 6714 03:42:35,949 --> 03:42:39,549 looked at ten years worth of 6715 03:42:39,953 --> 03:42:40,488 injury crash data to find 6716 03:42:40,488 --> 03:42:41,154 patterns and common 6717 03:42:41,154 --> 03:42:43,154 characteristics where these 6718 03:42:44,591 --> 03:42:45,192 crash sites are happening And 6719 03:42:45,192 --> 03:42:45,893 by doing that it allows 6720 03:42:45,893 --> 03:42:49,493 the city to be more proactive 6721 03:42:49,530 --> 03:42:50,230 and program improvements rather 6722 03:42:50,230 --> 03:42:53,230 than reactive and waiting for 6723 03:42:54,200 --> 03:42:54,669 crashes to occur. 6724 03:42:54,669 --> 03:42:55,369 I think it's important to 6725 03:42:55,369 --> 03:42:57,769 emphasize the speed management 6726 03:42:59,720 --> 03:42:59,807 plan relies in part on 6727 03:42:59,807 --> 03:43:00,541 the systemic safety analysis to 6728 03:43:00,541 --> 03:43:02,941 help narrow candidate locations 6729 03:43:03,945 --> 03:43:04,612 for speed reductions within 6730 03:43:04,612 --> 03:43:07,120 the select categories of 6731 03:43:11,318 --> 03:43:12,186 Assembly Bill 43 State Assembly 6732 03:43:12,186 --> 03:43:12,720 Bill 43 b 43 allowed for a 6733 03:43:12,720 --> 03:43:15,120 number of changes in 6734 03:43:15,723 --> 03:43:16,424 the vehicle code which allows 6735 03:43:16,424 --> 03:43:17,124 the cities to be more flexible 6736 03:43:17,124 --> 03:43:20,124 when setting the speed limits 6737 03:43:21,620 --> 03:43:21,762 The table here shows the four 6738 03:43:21,762 --> 03:43:22,529 major categories that we will 6739 03:43:22,529 --> 03:43:25,833 review and what they mean for 6740 03:43:25,833 --> 03:43:27,833 speed reduction. 6741 03:43:29,704 --> 03:43:30,404 >> ab 43 allows for an 6742 03:43:30,404 --> 03:43:31,380 additional five mile per hour 6743 03:43:31,380 --> 03:43:33,438 speed limit reduction for 6744 03:43:34,474 --> 03:43:35,760 safety corridors for ped bike 6745 03:43:35,760 --> 03:43:35,576 generators and business 6746 03:43:35,576 --> 03:43:37,576 Activity district. 6747 03:43:39,347 --> 03:43:40,480 It also allows further 6748 03:43:40,480 --> 03:43:40,714 reduction at school zones and 6749 03:43:40,714 --> 03:43:44,314 we'll go over each of these 6750 03:43:46,187 --> 03:43:46,496 categories a bit more in detail 6751 03:43:46,496 --> 03:43:47,221 . 6752 03:43:47,221 --> 03:43:49,621 >> Safety corridor is defined 6753 03:43:51,250 --> 03:43:51,726 as the highest number of severe 6754 03:43:51,726 --> 03:43:52,427 fatal injury crashes and only 6755 03:43:52,427 --> 03:43:55,829 about one fifth of the network 6756 03:43:55,829 --> 03:43:56,664 can be in this category. 6757 03:43:56,664 --> 03:43:57,331 >> The plan focuses on reducing 6758 03:43:57,331 --> 03:43:59,731 speed limits along systemic 6759 03:44:01,436 --> 03:44:02,690 safety corridor where fatal or 6760 03:44:02,690 --> 03:44:02,804 severe injury crashes have 6761 03:44:02,804 --> 03:44:05,804 occurred and where these common 6762 03:44:06,207 --> 03:44:06,874 patterns or roadway 6763 03:44:06,874 --> 03:44:08,874 characteristics are present 6764 03:44:10,511 --> 03:44:11,278 speed reduction is important 6765 03:44:11,278 --> 03:44:11,979 but as mentioned we also want 6766 03:44:11,979 --> 03:44:14,979 to pair them with improvements 6767 03:44:15,949 --> 03:44:18,949 for maximum safety benefits We 6768 03:44:20,121 --> 03:44:20,722 are proposing in fiscal year 27 6769 03:44:20,722 --> 03:44:23,722 cip budget request for a 6770 03:44:24,559 --> 03:44:25,393 handful of quick build projects 6771 03:44:25,393 --> 03:44:25,993 to help support the speed limit 6772 03:44:25,993 --> 03:44:28,393 reductions at the safety 6773 03:44:28,796 --> 03:44:29,563 corridors with additional 6774 03:44:29,563 --> 03:44:31,963 requests planned in future 6775 03:44:33,837 --> 03:44:34,603 years. 6776 03:44:34,603 --> 03:44:37,300 >> The second criteria is 6777 03:44:38,839 --> 03:44:39,774 the ped bike generators. 6778 03:44:39,774 --> 03:44:40,474 This is defined as land use to 6779 03:44:40,474 --> 03:44:42,874 generate high pedestrian or 6780 03:44:43,978 --> 03:44:44,646 bicycle use. 6781 03:44:44,646 --> 03:44:45,346 This triggers a lot of 6782 03:44:45,346 --> 03:44:47,746 locations throughout the city 6783 03:44:48,916 --> 03:44:49,651 Features like crosswalk 6784 03:44:49,651 --> 03:44:50,385 sidewalks, bikeways can trigger 6785 03:44:50,385 --> 03:44:53,985 this criteria so a lot of 6786 03:44:54,189 --> 03:44:54,923 streets segments can qualify. 6787 03:44:54,923 --> 03:44:58,523 The plan's approach is to focus 6788 03:44:58,626 --> 03:44:59,327 on these where these measures 6789 03:44:59,327 --> 03:44:59,993 are going to be most effective 6790 03:44:59,993 --> 03:45:02,993 which is within the systemic 6791 03:45:03,398 --> 03:45:04,165 safety corridors particularly 6792 03:45:04,165 --> 03:45:07,165 on transit routes that generate 6793 03:45:08,235 --> 03:45:08,603 high pedestrian and bicycle 6794 03:45:08,603 --> 03:45:09,170 activity. 6795 03:45:09,170 --> 03:45:09,838 In summary, the safety 6796 03:45:09,838 --> 03:45:12,838 corridors and the ped bike 6797 03:45:13,341 --> 03:45:14,750 generators are essentially 6798 03:45:14,750 --> 03:45:14,776 being combined and proposing to 6799 03:45:14,776 --> 03:45:17,776 reduce speed limits that would 6800 03:45:18,546 --> 03:45:19,247 include all 488 intersections 6801 03:45:19,247 --> 03:45:21,647 that's been identified through 6802 03:45:25,220 --> 03:45:26,200 the systemic safety analysis. 6803 03:45:26,200 --> 03:45:28,200 >> Business Activity District 6804 03:45:30,425 --> 03:45:31,260 is another category where speed 6805 03:45:31,260 --> 03:45:31,659 reductions are allowed. 6806 03:45:31,659 --> 03:45:33,659 Transportation Department 6807 03:45:35,197 --> 03:45:35,830 previously brought a package to 6808 03:45:35,830 --> 03:45:38,230 council in APRIL 2025 that 6809 03:45:40,234 --> 03:45:40,769 reduced speed limits along 11 6810 03:45:40,769 --> 03:45:42,769 business corridors. 6811 03:45:44,772 --> 03:45:45,507 The city regulations sets a 6812 03:45:45,507 --> 03:45:46,107 very specific criteria for what 6813 03:45:46,107 --> 03:45:48,507 qualifies as a business 6814 03:45:49,945 --> 03:45:50,678 activity district and through 6815 03:45:50,678 --> 03:45:54,278 this plan we evaluated the rest 6816 03:45:54,583 --> 03:45:55,283 of the city to identify 6817 03:45:55,283 --> 03:45:55,984 additional corridors that meet 6818 03:45:55,984 --> 03:45:58,984 this criteria and are eligible 6819 03:46:00,421 --> 03:46:01,560 for speed reduction and as a 6820 03:46:01,560 --> 03:46:01,690 result qualifying business 6821 03:46:01,690 --> 03:46:03,690 activity district streets 6822 03:46:04,626 --> 03:46:07,729 across the city will see speed 6823 03:46:07,729 --> 03:46:08,429 limits reduced down to 20 or 6824 03:46:08,429 --> 03:46:09,630 25mph depending on the street 6825 03:46:09,630 --> 03:46:12,630 design and how that street 6826 03:46:12,900 --> 03:46:14,900 functions. 6827 03:46:17,773 --> 03:46:18,273 >> Finally we have the criteria 6828 03:46:18,273 --> 03:46:19,700 for school zones. 6829 03:46:19,700 --> 03:46:22,700 The plan recommends speed limit 6830 03:46:23,780 --> 03:46:26,780 reductions at schools city wide 6831 03:46:26,982 --> 03:46:29,982 lowering speeds to 15mph within 6832 03:46:31,190 --> 03:46:31,653 500ft of a school and 25mph 6833 03:46:31,653 --> 03:46:31,987 between 500 and 1000ft of 6834 03:46:31,987 --> 03:46:33,987 schools. 6835 03:46:35,524 --> 03:46:36,191 The 15 mile per hour sign would 6836 03:46:36,191 --> 03:46:38,591 typically have the standard 6837 03:46:39,994 --> 03:46:40,596 when children present condition 6838 03:46:40,596 --> 03:46:41,263 included as part of that 6839 03:46:41,263 --> 03:46:44,263 signage And this approach is 6840 03:46:45,330 --> 03:46:45,767 being proposed and applied 6841 03:46:45,767 --> 03:46:46,401 consistently across all schools 6842 03:46:46,401 --> 03:46:46,702 throughout the city of San 6843 03:46:46,702 --> 03:46:48,702 Diego. 6844 03:46:50,380 --> 03:46:50,639 We do receive a significant 6845 03:46:50,639 --> 03:46:51,306 amount of requests from 6846 03:46:51,306 --> 03:46:53,306 stakeholders, constituents, 6847 03:46:53,809 --> 03:46:56,209 advocates to lower speeds 6848 03:46:59,140 --> 03:46:59,681 especially near schools. 6849 03:46:59,681 --> 03:47:02,810 This slide brings everything 6850 03:47:04,219 --> 03:47:04,887 together The milage is broken 6851 03:47:04,887 --> 03:47:05,587 down by the criteria shown. 6852 03:47:05,587 --> 03:47:09,187 The key takeaway here is that 6853 03:47:09,258 --> 03:47:09,858 through this plan the city is 6854 03:47:09,858 --> 03:47:11,858 proposing speed limit 6855 03:47:12,794 --> 03:47:13,428 reductions on roughly one fifth 6856 03:47:13,428 --> 03:47:13,762 20% of the overall roadway 6857 03:47:13,762 --> 03:47:15,762 network. 6858 03:47:17,320 --> 03:47:19,432 That's nearly 680 miles total. 6859 03:47:21,970 --> 03:47:22,571 We can't emphasize enough. 6860 03:47:22,571 --> 03:47:23,205 The plan also recommends 6861 03:47:23,205 --> 03:47:23,806 funding for future safety 6862 03:47:23,806 --> 03:47:25,806 improvements along these 6863 03:47:26,575 --> 03:47:27,309 corridors and pairing speed 6864 03:47:27,309 --> 03:47:29,178 reductions with traffic calming 6865 03:47:29,178 --> 03:47:32,178 measures to make them most 6866 03:47:34,383 --> 03:47:35,150 effective. 6867 03:47:35,150 --> 03:47:37,550 Implementation is expected to 6868 03:47:39,888 --> 03:47:40,555 begin in fiscal year 27 and 6869 03:47:40,555 --> 03:47:42,955 that's contingent on funding 6870 03:47:44,827 --> 03:47:45,561 the same crews who would 6871 03:47:45,561 --> 03:47:48,561 install these speed limit signs 6872 03:47:49,832 --> 03:47:50,532 are fully dedicated to parking 6873 03:47:50,532 --> 03:47:51,133 operations and expansions and 6874 03:47:51,133 --> 03:47:51,834 there are normal routine 6875 03:47:51,834 --> 03:47:54,234 traffic service requests that 6876 03:47:54,269 --> 03:47:54,803 they perform throughout 6877 03:47:54,803 --> 03:47:55,270 the city to support 6878 03:47:55,270 --> 03:47:57,270 implementation. 6879 03:47:59,730 --> 03:48:01,473 We are requesting $2.4 million 6880 03:48:03,612 --> 03:48:04,379 in fiscal year 27 that funding 6881 03:48:04,379 --> 03:48:06,779 would cover materials and 6882 03:48:07,315 --> 03:48:07,950 installation for approximately 6883 03:48:07,950 --> 03:48:10,350 3000 new speed limit signs 6884 03:48:12,721 --> 03:48:13,422 including 1200 new poles, 3000 6885 03:48:13,422 --> 03:48:16,422 signs exceeding more than half 6886 03:48:17,359 --> 03:48:17,792 of our Sign Shop's annual 6887 03:48:17,792 --> 03:48:18,460 capacity. 6888 03:48:18,460 --> 03:48:19,261 So an external fabrication 6889 03:48:19,261 --> 03:48:22,861 vendor will be needed to avoid 6890 03:48:23,199 --> 03:48:26,199 impacting day to day operations 6891 03:48:26,802 --> 03:48:27,536 That causes about $180,000. 6892 03:48:27,536 --> 03:48:29,936 The remaining funds primarily 6893 03:48:31,640 --> 03:48:32,307 cover staff overtime that's 6894 03:48:32,307 --> 03:48:33,800 needed to deliver this work 6895 03:48:33,800 --> 03:48:35,408 efficiently within one fiscal 6896 03:48:36,711 --> 03:48:37,413 year If overtime funding is not 6897 03:48:37,413 --> 03:48:40,413 approved, we do expect impacts 6898 03:48:41,450 --> 03:48:42,840 to our routine traffic service 6899 03:48:42,840 --> 03:48:42,718 requests and other traffic 6900 03:48:42,718 --> 03:48:44,718 safety improvements simply 6901 03:48:46,522 --> 03:48:47,123 because this work would be 6902 03:48:47,123 --> 03:48:49,523 competing for those same 6903 03:48:50,893 --> 03:48:51,560 limited staff resources. 6904 03:48:51,560 --> 03:48:52,294 With this funding in place, 6905 03:48:52,294 --> 03:48:55,294 however, the Department will be 6906 03:48:55,398 --> 03:48:56,980 well positioned to deliver 6907 03:48:56,980 --> 03:48:56,532 the speed management plan in a 6908 03:48:56,532 --> 03:48:57,166 timely manner. 6909 03:48:57,166 --> 03:48:59,166 Minimize impact StoryCorps 6910 03:49:00,769 --> 03:49:01,370 services and accelerate safety 6911 03:49:01,370 --> 03:49:02,400 benefits for communities 6912 03:49:02,400 --> 03:49:02,538 throughout the city of San 6913 03:49:02,538 --> 03:49:04,538 Diego. 6914 03:49:07,676 --> 03:49:08,770 Thank you. 6915 03:49:08,770 --> 03:49:08,644 All right. 6916 03:49:08,644 --> 03:49:09,780 Thank you for your 6917 03:49:09,780 --> 03:49:09,745 presentation. 6918 03:49:09,745 --> 03:49:13,345 I do want to note for 6919 03:49:13,449 --> 03:49:14,830 the record that we also have 6920 03:49:14,830 --> 03:49:14,784 Tammy Chavez, the interim 6921 03:49:14,784 --> 03:49:17,184 director of transportation as 6922 03:49:18,153 --> 03:49:18,954 well as Bethany Dusek. 6923 03:49:18,954 --> 03:49:19,255 And I'm sorry I have to read 6924 03:49:19,255 --> 03:49:19,922 this. 6925 03:49:19,922 --> 03:49:21,922 Chief Performance Logistics 6926 03:49:22,325 --> 03:49:23,126 Officer We appreciate both of 6927 03:49:23,126 --> 03:49:23,792 you being here for this item. 6928 03:49:23,792 --> 03:49:26,792 So with that Clark, please 6929 03:49:27,363 --> 03:49:27,763 proceed with public comment. 6930 03:49:27,763 --> 03:49:28,564 Thank you. 6931 03:49:28,564 --> 03:49:32,164 If I can have Aria Grossman, 6932 03:49:32,401 --> 03:49:33,269 please come forward. 6933 03:49:33,269 --> 03:49:36,872 You'll have a minute and a half 6934 03:49:36,872 --> 03:49:37,573 and then if I can have Ian 6935 03:49:37,573 --> 03:49:40,573 Hembree, Blair Beckman and Bob 6936 03:49:41,244 --> 03:49:41,911 Kozinski please come forward to 6937 03:49:41,911 --> 03:49:42,278 the other reserved seats at 6938 03:49:42,278 --> 03:49:42,911 the front. 6939 03:49:42,911 --> 03:49:43,212 Please proceed when ready. 6940 03:49:43,212 --> 03:49:45,212 Hello. 6941 03:49:46,315 --> 03:49:46,983 My name is Aria Grossman. 6942 03:49:46,983 --> 03:49:47,750 I'm the policy manager at 6943 03:49:47,750 --> 03:49:50,750 Circulate San Diego and I'm 6944 03:49:51,420 --> 03:49:52,121 speaking in strong support of 6945 03:49:52,121 --> 03:49:52,421 advancing the speed management 6946 03:49:52,421 --> 03:49:53,890 plan. 6947 03:49:53,890 --> 03:49:56,590 I want to thank you all for 6948 03:49:56,590 --> 03:49:56,759 taking this up And to everyone 6949 03:49:56,759 --> 03:50:00,359 who worked hard on this effort 6950 03:50:00,496 --> 03:50:01,164 we know for a fact that 6951 03:50:01,164 --> 03:50:01,664 lowering speed limits saves 6952 03:50:01,664 --> 03:50:02,498 lives 5 or 10mph. 6953 03:50:02,498 --> 03:50:05,498 It can be the difference 6954 03:50:06,169 --> 03:50:06,703 between walking away from a 6955 03:50:06,703 --> 03:50:07,403 crash and perishing. 6956 03:50:07,403 --> 03:50:10,907 I am excited that the city is 6957 03:50:10,907 --> 03:50:11,608 moving forward with this. 6958 03:50:11,608 --> 03:50:12,274 I think it's a fantastic 6959 03:50:12,274 --> 03:50:14,674 example of good leadership. 6960 03:50:15,511 --> 03:50:16,212 I would also like to thank 6961 03:50:16,212 --> 03:50:16,879 the Transportation Department 6962 03:50:16,879 --> 03:50:17,547 for stating that it plans to 6963 03:50:17,547 --> 03:50:19,947 prioritize school zones and 6964 03:50:20,249 --> 03:50:20,750 this is implemented when this 6965 03:50:20,750 --> 03:50:22,750 was heard at 80. 6966 03:50:24,420 --> 03:50:25,154 We are very supportive of this 6967 03:50:25,154 --> 03:50:25,788 approach as prioritizing Making 6968 03:50:25,788 --> 03:50:28,188 streets safer for children 6969 03:50:30,159 --> 03:50:30,459 should be a shared goal for all 6970 03:50:30,459 --> 03:50:31,160 of us. 6971 03:50:31,160 --> 03:50:33,797 I encourage the full council 6972 03:50:33,797 --> 03:50:34,564 and the mayor to make funding 6973 03:50:34,564 --> 03:50:37,564 implementation of this plan a 6974 03:50:37,700 --> 03:50:38,368 priority in the 2027 budget. 6975 03:50:38,368 --> 03:50:38,968 This effort, if paired with 6976 03:50:38,968 --> 03:50:40,968 targeted infrastructure 6977 03:50:42,939 --> 03:50:43,606 improvements like fixing 6978 03:50:43,606 --> 03:50:44,240 the fatal 15 and the traffic 6979 03:50:44,240 --> 03:50:47,240 calming measures we saw in 6980 03:50:47,544 --> 03:50:48,378 the presentation will together 6981 03:50:48,378 --> 03:50:49,450 go a long way towards making 6982 03:50:49,450 --> 03:50:49,412 streets safer for San Diego 6983 03:50:49,412 --> 03:50:51,412 residents. 6984 03:50:52,815 --> 03:50:53,483 This plan that we're hearing 6985 03:50:53,483 --> 03:50:54,217 today is great progress and 6986 03:50:54,217 --> 03:50:54,884 the city has the chance to make 6987 03:50:54,884 --> 03:50:57,520 a real difference with this 6988 03:50:57,520 --> 03:50:58,254 effort through the budget 6989 03:50:58,254 --> 03:50:58,521 process and I urge you to do 6990 03:50:58,521 --> 03:50:59,550 so. 6991 03:50:59,550 --> 03:51:01,455 Thank you very much. 6992 03:51:05,161 --> 03:51:05,562 Thank you, Ian. 6993 03:51:05,562 --> 03:51:05,995 Evening. 6994 03:51:05,995 --> 03:51:07,995 Good evening. 6995 03:51:09,899 --> 03:51:10,633 City Council My name is Ian 6996 03:51:10,633 --> 03:51:11,334 Henry and I am the advocacy and 6997 03:51:11,334 --> 03:51:12,680 community manager for the San 6998 03:51:12,680 --> 03:51:14,468 Diego County Bicycle Coalition. 6999 03:51:14,604 --> 03:51:15,237 I'm here to speak in favor of 7000 03:51:15,237 --> 03:51:15,805 the adoption of the city's 7001 03:51:15,805 --> 03:51:16,472 speed management plan. 7002 03:51:16,472 --> 03:51:19,275 I want to begin by thanking 7003 03:51:19,275 --> 03:51:19,976 the Transportation Department 7004 03:51:19,976 --> 03:51:20,577 for the presentation and their 7005 03:51:20,577 --> 03:51:23,577 hard work on this plan. 7006 03:51:23,679 --> 03:51:24,413 It is truly ambitious and 7007 03:51:24,413 --> 03:51:25,114 the speed reductions identified 7008 03:51:25,114 --> 03:51:25,782 in this plan will save lives. 7009 03:51:25,782 --> 03:51:28,951 Speed is one of the largest 7010 03:51:28,951 --> 03:51:29,819 factors determining the outcome 7011 03:51:29,819 --> 03:51:33,123 of a crash a person hit by a 7012 03:51:33,123 --> 03:51:33,890 car at 40mph eight times more 7013 03:51:33,890 --> 03:51:34,457 likely to die than a person hit 7014 03:51:34,457 --> 03:51:37,457 by a car at 20mph. 7015 03:51:37,828 --> 03:51:38,528 And for those who survive a 7016 03:51:38,528 --> 03:51:39,195 crash, the effects can be life 7017 03:51:39,195 --> 03:51:39,862 changing brain damage, lost 7018 03:51:39,862 --> 03:51:42,262 limbs and burdensome medical 7019 03:51:42,732 --> 03:51:43,432 bills are among the costs 7020 03:51:43,432 --> 03:51:43,934 incurred by those who survive 7021 03:51:43,934 --> 03:51:45,934 traffic violence. 7022 03:51:46,937 --> 03:51:47,671 Reducing speed limits is 7023 03:51:47,671 --> 03:51:48,304 the first most obvious step for 7024 03:51:48,304 --> 03:51:48,907 making our streets safer. 7025 03:51:48,907 --> 03:51:51,307 The next steps including 7026 03:51:51,741 --> 03:51:52,442 building safer infrastructure, 7027 03:51:52,442 --> 03:51:53,760 reallocating roadway space to 7028 03:51:53,760 --> 03:51:55,476 other modes and increasing 7029 03:51:57,800 --> 03:51:57,781 dangerous driving enforcement 7030 03:51:57,781 --> 03:51:58,448 should follow Make our streets 7031 03:51:58,448 --> 03:52:01,448 safer by approving this plan 7032 03:52:02,252 --> 03:52:02,919 allocating the requested budget 7033 03:52:02,919 --> 03:52:03,487 item for next year and 7034 03:52:03,487 --> 03:52:04,120 following through with 7035 03:52:04,120 --> 03:52:06,520 the commitments to plans, 7036 03:52:07,257 --> 03:52:07,556 policies and projects that save 7037 03:52:07,556 --> 03:52:07,991 lives. 7038 03:52:07,991 --> 03:52:08,725 >> Thank you. 7039 03:52:08,725 --> 03:52:11,125 Blaire Beekman Please come 7040 03:52:11,294 --> 03:52:13,294 forward. 7041 03:52:17,567 --> 03:52:17,968 Hi. 7042 03:52:17,968 --> 03:52:18,535 Thank you. 7043 03:52:18,535 --> 03:52:19,503 We're a big band. 7044 03:52:19,503 --> 03:52:21,705 I just like to first very much 7045 03:52:21,705 --> 03:52:22,372 thank Councilperson Von Wilpert 7046 03:52:22,372 --> 03:52:25,372 who I think really nice 7047 03:52:26,760 --> 03:52:26,709 questions about the previous 7048 03:52:26,709 --> 03:52:27,444 item with the police chief 7049 03:52:27,444 --> 03:52:30,444 about our current public safety 7050 03:52:31,481 --> 03:52:32,282 practice is I think he did a 7051 03:52:32,282 --> 03:52:35,282 really good job in asking 7052 03:52:35,886 --> 03:52:36,619 important questions that I 7053 03:52:36,619 --> 03:52:39,619 think work towards the concepts 7054 03:52:40,724 --> 03:52:41,391 of peace in this time of we're 7055 03:52:41,391 --> 03:52:44,761 in a fragile state of war. 7056 03:52:44,761 --> 03:52:45,529 Good luck how we can talk in 7057 03:52:45,529 --> 03:52:46,263 terms of openness and important 7058 03:52:46,263 --> 03:52:49,263 questions of best practices and 7059 03:52:50,133 --> 03:52:51,680 what vision Zero tries to do. 7060 03:52:51,680 --> 03:52:54,271 I think you've taken a really 7061 03:52:54,271 --> 03:52:54,905 good approach with Vision Zero 7062 03:52:54,905 --> 03:52:57,305 and with technology issues 7063 03:52:58,575 --> 03:52:59,176 overall you don't beat us over 7064 03:52:59,176 --> 03:52:59,877 the head with with tech 7065 03:52:59,877 --> 03:53:02,780 provision zero You don't want 7066 03:53:02,780 --> 03:53:03,112 to overly enforce vision zero 7067 03:53:03,112 --> 03:53:03,814 things. 7068 03:53:03,814 --> 03:53:07,840 You want us as individuals of 7069 03:53:07,840 --> 03:53:07,651 the community to come to our 7070 03:53:07,651 --> 03:53:08,352 own conclusions that 7071 03:53:08,352 --> 03:53:11,352 the slowing down is important 7072 03:53:11,989 --> 03:53:12,623 and thank you You're doing that 7073 03:53:12,623 --> 03:53:15,230 and you're you're working 7074 03:53:16,627 --> 03:53:17,494 towards that Good principles of 7075 03:53:17,494 --> 03:53:20,494 vision zero The quick build 7076 03:53:21,565 --> 03:53:22,232 ideas that is also going to 7077 03:53:22,232 --> 03:53:25,232 fast track new technology I 7078 03:53:25,936 --> 03:53:26,637 hope you wanting to have more 7079 03:53:26,637 --> 03:53:29,370 open accountable practices for 7080 03:53:30,507 --> 03:53:31,208 all our technology the more you 7081 03:53:31,208 --> 03:53:31,874 practice that open technology 7082 03:53:31,874 --> 03:53:34,274 practices it simply invites 7083 03:53:35,478 --> 03:53:36,112 better ideas and creative 7084 03:53:36,112 --> 03:53:36,847 thinking for your projects 7085 03:53:36,847 --> 03:53:39,984 Overall I see that at sandag 7086 03:53:39,984 --> 03:53:40,717 all the time. 7087 03:53:40,717 --> 03:53:44,317 I hope you can remember that 7088 03:53:46,490 --> 03:53:47,240 it's important how we build our 7089 03:53:47,240 --> 03:53:48,959 vision, our future. 7090 03:53:48,959 --> 03:53:52,559 >> Thank you Bob because I key 7091 03:53:54,432 --> 03:53:55,132 PRESIDENT LaCava I've been 7092 03:53:55,132 --> 03:53:58,132 watching this meeting all day 7093 03:53:58,736 --> 03:53:59,403 today and I understand that 7094 03:53:59,403 --> 03:54:00,270 you're not a fifth grade 7095 03:54:00,270 --> 03:54:03,870 teacher but I urge you to 7096 03:54:04,740 --> 03:54:04,775 properly chastise and or 7097 03:54:04,775 --> 03:54:07,175 discipline your fellow council 7098 03:54:08,913 --> 03:54:09,613 members who are routinely chit 7099 03:54:09,613 --> 03:54:12,613 chatting and looking at their 7100 03:54:13,650 --> 03:54:14,180 phones while the citizens are 7101 03:54:14,180 --> 03:54:14,819 speaking. 7102 03:54:14,819 --> 03:54:18,419 They could at least pretend to 7103 03:54:18,722 --> 03:54:19,489 pay attention Also PRESIDENT 7104 03:54:19,489 --> 03:54:22,489 LaCava where's the picture of 7105 03:54:23,560 --> 03:54:24,495 the PRESIDENT? 7106 03:54:24,495 --> 03:54:25,262 I think it's been over a year 7107 03:54:25,262 --> 03:54:25,696 now and I still don't see it in 7108 03:54:25,696 --> 03:54:27,696 our chambers. 7109 03:54:28,499 --> 03:54:29,199 We have had it there for as 7110 03:54:29,199 --> 03:54:29,867 long as I've been coming here 7111 03:54:29,867 --> 03:54:30,134 probably as long as you have 7112 03:54:30,134 --> 03:54:32,134 to. 7113 03:54:33,804 --> 03:54:34,505 Seems highly partizan and 7114 03:54:34,505 --> 03:54:36,505 disrespectful to intentionally 7115 03:54:38,420 --> 03:54:38,809 omit that from our chambers. 7116 03:54:38,809 --> 03:54:41,809 Finally with regard to this 7117 03:54:42,679 --> 03:54:45,679 particular item the cited speed 7118 03:54:46,550 --> 03:54:49,550 of 85% that means 15% above it 7119 03:54:50,887 --> 03:54:51,589 and 85% below it That already 7120 03:54:51,589 --> 03:54:51,955 makes 15% of our citizens 7121 03:54:51,955 --> 03:54:53,955 criminals. 7122 03:54:54,258 --> 03:54:56,658 I think that's enough. 7123 03:54:59,996 --> 03:55:00,765 >> Thank you. 7124 03:55:00,765 --> 03:55:01,465 So the five minute time we're 7125 03:55:01,465 --> 03:55:02,199 here in council chambers going 7126 03:55:02,199 --> 03:55:04,599 to those participating remotely 7127 03:55:05,469 --> 03:55:06,700 we currently have 13 speakers 7128 03:55:06,700 --> 03:55:06,770 with their hands raised. 7129 03:55:06,770 --> 03:55:09,640 Jason be if you can please on 7130 03:55:09,640 --> 03:55:10,273 mute after that will be Becky 7131 03:55:10,273 --> 03:55:11,750 Rep Jason please proceed. 7132 03:55:11,750 --> 03:55:13,844 >> Hi I'm a resident of 7133 03:55:13,844 --> 03:55:14,678 downtown. 7134 03:55:14,678 --> 03:55:15,379 I fully support the speed limit 7135 03:55:15,379 --> 03:55:19,149 plan and thank you to the city 7136 03:55:19,149 --> 03:55:19,916 staff for putting it together. 7137 03:55:19,916 --> 03:55:20,651 One thing I would like to see 7138 03:55:20,651 --> 03:55:21,850 is a reduction of speed limits 7139 03:55:21,850 --> 03:55:23,850 in our parks. 7140 03:55:23,654 --> 03:55:24,322 I believe this use case is 7141 03:55:24,322 --> 03:55:25,220 covered under ab 43 because 7142 03:55:25,220 --> 03:55:28,220 parks are pedestrian and bike 7143 03:55:28,726 --> 03:55:29,593 generators. 7144 03:55:29,593 --> 03:55:30,361 The big one is East Mission Bay 7145 03:55:30,361 --> 03:55:33,361 Drive which is inside Mission 7146 03:55:34,432 --> 03:55:35,990 Bay Park and is used for both 7147 03:55:35,990 --> 03:55:38,235 recreation and is also a key 7148 03:55:38,235 --> 03:55:38,736 bike route for commuters and 7149 03:55:38,736 --> 03:55:39,470 students to ucsd. 7150 03:55:39,470 --> 03:55:42,470 But it's very dangerous because 7151 03:55:42,640 --> 03:55:43,507 there are no bike lanes and 7152 03:55:43,507 --> 03:55:47,110 cars speed down it at over 45 7153 03:55:47,110 --> 03:55:47,412 miles an hour to skip traffic 7154 03:55:47,412 --> 03:55:48,278 on the five. 7155 03:55:48,278 --> 03:55:51,878 Another one is Balboa Drive on 7156 03:55:52,149 --> 03:55:52,850 the West Mesa of Balboa Park. 7157 03:55:52,850 --> 03:55:55,850 When the council voted against 7158 03:55:57,154 --> 03:55:57,789 a multi-use path in favor of 7159 03:55:57,789 --> 03:55:58,523 diagonal parking, we were 7160 03:55:58,523 --> 03:56:01,523 promised that joggers and bikes 7161 03:56:01,859 --> 03:56:02,593 would be safe because of a 15 7162 03:56:02,593 --> 03:56:06,193 mile an hour speed limit there. 7163 03:56:06,497 --> 03:56:07,198 However, somehow in 7164 03:56:07,198 --> 03:56:07,865 the intervening time the speed 7165 03:56:07,865 --> 03:56:10,865 limit was raised to 25 on 7166 03:56:11,369 --> 03:56:12,235 Balboa Drive. 7167 03:56:12,235 --> 03:56:13,104 And since then a cyclist has 7168 03:56:13,104 --> 03:56:15,940 already been hit by a car And 7169 03:56:15,940 --> 03:56:16,641 there's also no no no longer 7170 03:56:16,641 --> 03:56:19,641 nearly as many people jogging 7171 03:56:20,511 --> 03:56:20,945 and walking towards dogs on 7172 03:56:20,945 --> 03:56:21,613 Balboa Drive. 7173 03:56:21,613 --> 03:56:24,613 So please, you know, return 7174 03:56:25,483 --> 03:56:26,384 the speed limit on billboards 7175 03:56:26,384 --> 03:56:26,818 five at least to 15 if not ten 7176 03:56:26,818 --> 03:56:27,317 miles an hour. 7177 03:56:27,317 --> 03:56:29,317 >> Thank you. 7178 03:56:31,155 --> 03:56:31,589 Next is Becky Rapp If you can 7179 03:56:31,589 --> 03:56:33,589 please unmute. 7180 03:56:35,693 --> 03:56:36,661 After that is the original 7181 03:56:36,661 --> 03:56:40,261 booking rep I cannot meet for 7182 03:56:44,602 --> 03:56:45,337 you but good afternoon. 7183 03:56:45,337 --> 03:56:46,204 My name is Becky Rapp. 7184 03:56:46,204 --> 03:56:48,773 Thank you for bringing this 7185 03:56:48,773 --> 03:56:49,507 item forward As Vision Zero is 7186 03:56:49,507 --> 03:56:53,107 critical to public safety and I 7187 03:56:53,244 --> 03:56:54,120 urge you to consider a critical 7188 03:56:54,120 --> 03:56:54,679 piece of traffic safety that is 7189 03:56:54,679 --> 03:56:57,790 often overlooked and that's 7190 03:56:58,850 --> 03:56:59,517 the drug impaired driving 7191 03:56:59,517 --> 03:56:59,884 particularly driving high on 7192 03:56:59,884 --> 03:57:01,884 marijuana. 7193 03:57:04,189 --> 03:57:04,789 Unlike alcohol, there's 7194 03:57:04,789 --> 03:57:06,789 currently no universally 7195 03:57:07,559 --> 03:57:08,226 reliable roadside test that can 7196 03:57:08,226 --> 03:57:10,626 measure real time marijuana 7197 03:57:12,497 --> 03:57:13,365 impairment. 7198 03:57:13,365 --> 03:57:16,965 Thc can remain in a person's 7199 03:57:17,701 --> 03:57:18,403 system long after use and 7200 03:57:18,403 --> 03:57:18,970 impairment levels vary widely 7201 03:57:18,970 --> 03:57:19,537 from person to person. 7202 03:57:19,537 --> 03:57:21,937 This creates a serious 7203 03:57:23,541 --> 03:57:24,275 challenge for enforcement and 7204 03:57:24,275 --> 03:57:27,275 for public safety because there 7205 03:57:27,878 --> 03:57:28,479 is no clear threshold that 7206 03:57:28,479 --> 03:57:30,479 guarantees safe driving. 7207 03:57:32,350 --> 03:57:33,180 The safest public message is 7208 03:57:33,180 --> 03:57:33,818 simple If you have use 7209 03:57:33,818 --> 03:57:36,818 marijuana you should not drive 7210 03:57:37,489 --> 03:57:38,156 vision zero. 7211 03:57:38,156 --> 03:57:38,890 Should include stronger 7212 03:57:38,890 --> 03:57:41,290 education enforcement tools and 7213 03:57:42,627 --> 03:57:43,295 policy guidance addressing drug 7214 03:57:43,295 --> 03:57:46,295 impaired driving just as it 7215 03:57:46,998 --> 03:57:47,732 does for speeding distracted 7216 03:57:47,732 --> 03:57:48,166 driving and alcohol impairment. 7217 03:57:48,166 --> 03:57:48,533 >> Thank you. 7218 03:57:48,533 --> 03:57:50,533 Thank you. 7219 03:57:53,400 --> 03:57:53,437 Next is the original if you can 7220 03:57:53,437 --> 03:57:55,437 please unmute. 7221 03:57:57,750 --> 03:58:00,750 After that is very $180,000 for 7222 03:58:03,115 --> 03:58:03,882 you guys is to go change and 7223 03:58:03,882 --> 03:58:04,583 you got to go to a different 7224 03:58:04,583 --> 03:58:07,583 company because they won't be 7225 03:58:08,353 --> 03:58:08,854 able to handle all the signage 7226 03:58:08,854 --> 03:58:09,521 in the bank. 7227 03:58:09,521 --> 03:58:10,288 So when I talking about 7228 03:58:10,288 --> 03:58:12,190 overtime it's like this has 7229 03:58:12,190 --> 03:58:12,891 nothing to do with safety you 7230 03:58:12,891 --> 03:58:16,491 guys and everything to do with 7231 03:58:16,761 --> 03:58:17,620 controlling people's movements 7232 03:58:17,620 --> 03:58:17,763 . 7233 03:58:17,763 --> 03:58:18,463 You're actually putting people 7234 03:58:18,463 --> 03:58:18,864 in danger by doing things like 7235 03:58:18,864 --> 03:58:20,864 roundabouts. 7236 03:58:20,998 --> 03:58:21,699 We've already seen the data 7237 03:58:21,699 --> 03:58:22,433 come forward of this happening 7238 03:58:22,433 --> 03:58:26,330 in other locations yet you guys 7239 03:58:26,605 --> 03:58:27,339 refuse to acknowledge it So 7240 03:58:27,339 --> 03:58:28,600 you're literally putting people 7241 03:58:28,600 --> 03:58:31,606 in danger by putting in that 7242 03:58:32,760 --> 03:58:32,744 type of infrastructure and we 7243 03:58:32,744 --> 03:58:33,344 shouldn't have to pay for it 7244 03:58:33,344 --> 03:58:36,344 because you guys want to 7245 03:58:36,949 --> 03:58:37,616 control our minutes but you 7246 03:58:37,616 --> 03:58:38,516 need to quit telling people 7247 03:58:38,516 --> 03:58:42,187 that this is for safety And you 7248 03:58:42,187 --> 03:58:42,921 know all of this and that 7249 03:58:42,921 --> 03:58:43,255 because in reality like doesn't 7250 03:58:43,255 --> 03:58:45,255 matter. 7251 03:58:46,357 --> 03:58:47,226 People are always going to die. 7252 03:58:47,226 --> 03:58:48,930 It's a part of life and nothing 7253 03:58:48,930 --> 03:58:51,263 you guys do is actually going 7254 03:58:51,263 --> 03:58:51,996 to slow that down especially 7255 03:58:51,996 --> 03:58:52,364 when you guys are engaged in it 7256 03:58:52,364 --> 03:58:54,364 yourself. 7257 03:58:56,168 --> 03:58:56,969 It's just disgusting because 7258 03:58:56,969 --> 03:59:00,638 it's like you want to sit here 7259 03:59:00,638 --> 03:59:01,306 and you know literally make it 7260 03:59:01,306 --> 03:59:01,974 so that people drive around 7261 03:59:01,974 --> 03:59:04,974 more by taking away parking 7262 03:59:06,181 --> 03:59:06,878 spots and lanes and then making 7263 03:59:06,878 --> 03:59:07,612 things slower and you act like 7264 03:59:07,612 --> 03:59:10,915 not only is that going to bring 7265 03:59:10,915 --> 03:59:11,583 public safety but that it's 7266 03:59:11,583 --> 03:59:12,284 going to save the planet And 7267 03:59:12,284 --> 03:59:15,284 it's just it's ridiculous how 7268 03:59:16,880 --> 03:59:16,788 much money we have to spend in 7269 03:59:16,788 --> 03:59:17,322 order for you guys to change 7270 03:59:17,322 --> 03:59:19,322 something like that. 7271 03:59:20,250 --> 03:59:20,659 We shouldn't have to spend 7272 03:59:20,659 --> 03:59:22,659 $180,000 on parking signs 7273 03:59:24,296 --> 03:59:24,997 because you guys want to go in 7274 03:59:24,997 --> 03:59:25,664 and lower the speed limit when 7275 03:59:25,664 --> 03:59:26,365 there's people on the street 7276 03:59:26,365 --> 03:59:29,365 suffering and dying because of 7277 03:59:29,434 --> 03:59:30,169 your guys is negligent. 7278 03:59:30,169 --> 03:59:30,902 >> Your time has concluded. 7279 03:59:30,902 --> 03:59:34,502 Harry if you can please unmute. 7280 03:59:34,539 --> 03:59:35,274 After that is gathering. 7281 03:59:35,274 --> 03:59:37,674 >> Good afternoon Everybody is 7282 03:59:39,110 --> 03:59:39,778 here with respect Bird rock. 7283 03:59:39,778 --> 03:59:40,780 I'm speaking in support of this 7284 03:59:40,780 --> 03:59:42,780 item. 7285 03:59:44,416 --> 03:59:45,840 Thank you to the 80 I committee 7286 03:59:45,840 --> 03:59:45,784 for their unanimous vote and 7287 03:59:45,784 --> 03:59:47,986 shared with friends office and 7288 03:59:47,986 --> 03:59:48,687 city staff for 7289 03:59:48,687 --> 03:59:49,354 the Transportation Department 7290 03:59:49,354 --> 03:59:52,354 for their enormous work and 7291 03:59:52,591 --> 03:59:53,192 the mayor's direction. 7292 03:59:53,192 --> 03:59:53,792 Speed determines whether 7293 03:59:53,792 --> 03:59:54,225 someone walks away or is 7294 03:59:54,225 --> 03:59:56,225 carried away. 7295 03:59:58,764 --> 03:59:59,297 This plan will make San Diego a 7296 03:59:59,297 --> 04:00:01,297 statewide leader in 7297 04:00:03,135 --> 04:00:03,702 implementing 8043 lower speed, 7298 04:00:03,702 --> 04:00:04,403 save lives and protect 7299 04:00:04,403 --> 04:00:06,803 children, seniors and everyone 7300 04:00:08,700 --> 04:00:08,707 who drives walks or bikes 7301 04:00:08,707 --> 04:00:11,107 reduces emergency response or 7302 04:00:13,779 --> 04:00:14,547 litigation costs, creates quiet 7303 04:00:14,547 --> 04:00:15,247 or more peaceful neighborhoods 7304 04:00:15,247 --> 04:00:18,117 and safe streets are good for 7305 04:00:18,117 --> 04:00:18,784 business in Bird with street 7306 04:00:18,784 --> 04:00:19,252 parking revenues went up and 7307 04:00:19,252 --> 04:00:19,919 jobs increased. 7308 04:00:19,919 --> 04:00:22,919 We're grateful that La Hoya 7309 04:00:23,289 --> 04:00:23,955 Boulevard is included. 7310 04:00:23,955 --> 04:00:24,657 We appreciate Councilmember 7311 04:00:24,657 --> 04:00:27,657 Lacob and his staff responding 7312 04:00:28,727 --> 04:00:29,394 to many community concerns. 7313 04:00:29,394 --> 04:00:29,762 I continue to work with 7314 04:00:29,762 --> 04:00:30,395 residents. 7315 04:00:30,395 --> 04:00:30,963 The city could sell street 7316 04:00:30,963 --> 04:00:33,363 signs that the revenue 7317 04:00:33,632 --> 04:00:34,990 generator like other cities do 7318 04:00:34,990 --> 04:00:34,800 to offset costs. 7319 04:00:34,800 --> 04:00:37,800 That's just a quick idea. 7320 04:00:39,238 --> 04:00:39,605 But the cost of implementation 7321 04:00:39,605 --> 04:00:40,272 is modest. 7322 04:00:40,272 --> 04:00:43,872 The cost of doing nothing is 7323 04:00:44,342 --> 04:00:45,110 measured in lives lost. 7324 04:00:45,110 --> 04:00:45,745 We support this plan and 7325 04:00:45,745 --> 04:00:47,745 prioritize implementation 7326 04:00:50,480 --> 04:00:50,650 especially in smaller roads and 7327 04:00:50,650 --> 04:00:51,284 high traffic recreation 7328 04:00:51,284 --> 04:00:53,684 corridors, parks and beach 7329 04:00:54,587 --> 04:00:55,870 access areas from Moline to 7330 04:00:55,870 --> 04:00:55,521 Mission Bay Drive. 7331 04:00:55,521 --> 04:00:57,521 >> Thank you. 7332 04:01:00,526 --> 04:01:01,359 Next is Guthrie. 7333 04:01:01,359 --> 04:01:01,760 >> After that is Leif if you 7334 04:01:01,760 --> 04:01:02,940 can please. 7335 04:01:02,940 --> 04:01:02,361 I'm you. 7336 04:01:02,361 --> 04:01:04,361 Hi. 7337 04:01:05,264 --> 04:01:05,797 Thank you so much guys, This is 7338 04:01:05,797 --> 04:01:06,399 this is great news. 7339 04:01:06,399 --> 04:01:09,399 I'm so excited for this. 7340 04:01:10,360 --> 04:01:10,670 This is the type of bold and 7341 04:01:10,670 --> 04:01:11,103 important action we need. 7342 04:01:11,103 --> 04:01:13,103 It's a vision. 7343 04:01:15,741 --> 04:01:16,209 Zero is a thing that breaks my 7344 04:01:16,209 --> 04:01:16,943 heart every day. 7345 04:01:16,943 --> 04:01:20,543 I've heard way too many stories 7346 04:01:20,579 --> 04:01:21,214 of children dying of parents 7347 04:01:21,214 --> 04:01:21,514 dying of pregnant mothers 7348 04:01:21,514 --> 04:01:22,448 dying. 7349 04:01:22,448 --> 04:01:26,180 Just this year in L.A. We get 7350 04:01:26,180 --> 04:01:26,719 to do something special. 7351 04:01:26,719 --> 04:01:27,419 We get to show the state that 7352 04:01:27,419 --> 04:01:29,956 this is an important issue and 7353 04:01:29,956 --> 04:01:30,623 that we're going to take 7354 04:01:30,623 --> 04:01:31,230 the initiative and actually 7355 04:01:31,230 --> 04:01:31,691 address it. 7356 04:01:31,691 --> 04:01:32,425 So I encourage you to follow 7357 04:01:32,425 --> 04:01:36,250 through with what your staff is 7358 04:01:36,429 --> 04:01:37,960 recommending. 7359 04:01:37,960 --> 04:01:37,596 Follow through with lowering 7360 04:01:37,596 --> 04:01:38,130 the speed limits. 7361 04:01:38,130 --> 04:01:38,731 Follow through with 7362 04:01:38,731 --> 04:01:40,731 implementing the actual 7363 04:01:41,434 --> 04:01:42,135 physical safely safety 7364 04:01:42,135 --> 04:01:45,135 structures to make this happen 7365 04:01:46,672 --> 04:01:47,339 Because I do want to say I'm as 7366 04:01:47,339 --> 04:01:50,939 excited as I am about this. 7367 04:01:51,577 --> 04:01:52,444 Signs are signs right? 7368 04:01:52,444 --> 04:01:56,644 And as a YouTuber I watch once 7369 04:01:56,982 --> 04:01:57,583 said physics is more powerful 7370 04:01:57,583 --> 04:01:58,217 than science So I would 7371 04:01:58,217 --> 04:01:58,951 encourage you to implement 7372 04:01:58,951 --> 04:02:02,354 stuff like Limits as new quick 7373 04:02:02,354 --> 04:02:03,560 build speed bumps implement 7374 04:02:03,560 --> 04:02:03,723 the other quick build measures 7375 04:02:03,723 --> 04:02:06,723 that your staff are talking 7376 04:02:07,493 --> 04:02:08,194 about. 7377 04:02:08,194 --> 04:02:11,194 We have opportunities to save 7378 04:02:12,632 --> 04:02:13,299 lives and I love what Harry 7379 04:02:13,299 --> 04:02:13,799 said The cost of inaction is 7380 04:02:13,799 --> 04:02:15,799 measured in lives. 7381 04:02:17,770 --> 04:02:18,471 The cost of action is really 7382 04:02:18,471 --> 04:02:19,171 pennies on the dollar for what 7383 04:02:19,171 --> 04:02:21,571 our transportation budget is. 7384 04:02:22,709 --> 04:02:23,375 So I encourage you to pass this 7385 04:02:23,375 --> 04:02:24,900 measure and just show people 7386 04:02:24,900 --> 04:02:24,310 that you care about their 7387 04:02:24,310 --> 04:02:26,310 lives. 7388 04:02:29,549 --> 04:02:29,949 Thank you. 7389 04:02:29,949 --> 04:02:30,583 Thank you. 7390 04:02:30,583 --> 04:02:31,250 The five minute timer has 7391 04:02:31,250 --> 04:02:31,851 completed three speakers in 7392 04:02:31,851 --> 04:02:32,585 the queue and additional 7393 04:02:32,585 --> 04:02:36,185 speakers will be taken leave if 7394 04:02:38,825 --> 04:02:39,157 you can please unmute somebody 7395 04:02:39,157 --> 04:02:39,926 . 7396 04:02:39,926 --> 04:02:40,626 Hello my name is Left Campbell 7397 04:02:40,626 --> 04:02:44,226 and I'm the vice PRESIDENT Of 7398 04:02:44,396 --> 04:02:45,131 Writers The and there's not a 7399 04:02:45,131 --> 04:02:45,831 strong support of this measure. 7400 04:02:45,831 --> 04:02:48,568 Please approve It has not been 7401 04:02:48,568 --> 04:02:49,502 said from free to speak. 7402 04:02:49,502 --> 04:02:50,235 I can't really say much more to 7403 04:02:50,235 --> 04:02:51,137 it but I want to point out a 7404 04:02:51,137 --> 04:02:53,406 couple of things Where is great 7405 04:02:53,406 --> 04:02:53,872 that we're going to reduce 7406 04:02:53,872 --> 04:02:54,574 the speed limit? 7407 04:02:54,574 --> 04:02:55,341 I strongly agree that we have 7408 04:02:55,341 --> 04:02:58,941 to put in physical barriers to 7409 04:02:58,945 --> 04:02:59,546 actually ensure that people 7410 04:02:59,546 --> 04:03:00,179 keep to the speed limit. 7411 04:03:00,179 --> 04:03:00,847 That should also come with 7412 04:03:00,847 --> 04:03:03,247 enforcement For people going 7413 04:03:03,549 --> 04:03:04,384 over the speed limit. 7414 04:03:04,384 --> 04:03:05,850 Ultimately also what we want to 7415 04:03:05,850 --> 04:03:05,717 see is we want to see 7416 04:03:05,717 --> 04:03:07,717 structures that encourage 7417 04:03:10,590 --> 04:03:11,324 pedestrians to walk safely What 7418 04:03:11,324 --> 04:03:12,240 they want to go have bike lanes 7419 04:03:12,240 --> 04:03:14,424 that are physically separated 7420 04:03:14,661 --> 04:03:15,261 that gives cyclists more safety 7421 04:03:15,261 --> 04:03:16,620 when they ride the bike. 7422 04:03:16,620 --> 04:03:17,290 And then long term what we also 7423 04:03:17,290 --> 04:03:19,599 want to see is we want to see 7424 04:03:19,599 --> 04:03:20,266 dedicated bus lanes and trying 7425 04:03:20,266 --> 04:03:21,100 to signal priority so people 7426 04:03:21,100 --> 04:03:25,201 can go to the places where they 7427 04:03:26,172 --> 04:03:26,939 want to go fast And then also 7428 04:03:26,939 --> 04:03:27,640 if people do want to have a 7429 04:03:27,640 --> 04:03:30,640 drink we highly encourage them 7430 04:03:31,877 --> 04:03:32,612 to take public transport so 7431 04:03:32,612 --> 04:03:33,346 that they don't try to drive. 7432 04:03:33,346 --> 04:03:36,946 Thank you for for the attention 7433 04:03:37,917 --> 04:03:38,417 to this to this item and please 7434 04:03:38,417 --> 04:03:38,851 put it Thank you. 7435 04:03:38,851 --> 04:03:39,819 >> Thank you. 7436 04:03:39,819 --> 04:03:44,190 Next is Zach If you come please 7437 04:03:44,824 --> 04:03:47,824 unmute Zach please I'm here. 7438 04:03:49,696 --> 04:03:50,363 >> Thank you. 7439 04:03:50,363 --> 04:03:51,640 I'm calling in from district 7440 04:03:51,640 --> 04:03:54,640 five to support this measure. 7441 04:03:55,680 --> 04:03:55,735 As everybody here is aware, 7442 04:03:55,735 --> 04:03:56,469 multiple children died last 7443 04:03:56,469 --> 04:03:57,203 year either near a school or on 7444 04:03:57,203 --> 04:04:01,740 their way to school And that is 7445 04:04:01,740 --> 04:04:01,440 something that I am unwilling 7446 04:04:01,440 --> 04:04:02,142 to accept. 7447 04:04:02,142 --> 04:04:02,843 And again this measure passed 7448 04:04:02,843 --> 04:04:05,243 through committee and through 7449 04:04:06,460 --> 04:04:06,746 council as I hope it is would 7450 04:04:06,746 --> 04:04:07,614 show us that the City Council 7451 04:04:07,614 --> 04:04:11,814 is unable to accept that as a 7452 04:04:12,520 --> 04:04:12,818 cost of doing business too. 7453 04:04:12,818 --> 04:04:15,818 And as multiple commenters have 7454 04:04:16,889 --> 04:04:17,523 pointed out, speed of vehicles 7455 04:04:17,523 --> 04:04:18,240 makes a huge difference in 7456 04:04:18,240 --> 04:04:20,240 pedestrian safety. 7457 04:04:21,728 --> 04:04:22,463 5 or 10mph doesn't mean a lot 7458 04:04:22,463 --> 04:04:22,763 when you're behind the wheel of 7459 04:04:22,763 --> 04:04:23,497 a car. 7460 04:04:23,497 --> 04:04:26,867 But if you're hit by a car that 7461 04:04:26,867 --> 04:04:27,567 is the difference between as 7462 04:04:27,567 --> 04:04:28,268 another commentary about input 7463 04:04:28,268 --> 04:04:31,268 being carried away and walking 7464 04:04:32,206 --> 04:04:33,139 away. 7465 04:04:33,139 --> 04:04:33,773 I do want to second the calls 7466 04:04:33,773 --> 04:04:36,173 to increase enforcement in 7467 04:04:37,811 --> 04:04:38,445 these zones and add 7468 04:04:38,445 --> 04:04:39,112 infrastructure to for both 7469 04:04:39,112 --> 04:04:42,112 traffic calming as well as 7470 04:04:43,917 --> 04:04:44,584 pedestrian friendly and safe 7471 04:04:44,584 --> 04:04:46,984 bike infrastructure since a 7472 04:04:49,256 --> 04:04:49,889 sign will only go so far, it 7473 04:04:49,889 --> 04:04:50,624 must be paired with other 7474 04:04:50,624 --> 04:04:51,291 measures to ensure that drivers 7475 04:04:51,291 --> 04:04:53,691 are actually following those 7476 04:04:55,361 --> 04:04:56,263 signs. 7477 04:04:56,263 --> 04:04:56,931 I particularly think of a road 7478 04:04:56,931 --> 04:04:57,631 near me Castello Seal which 7479 04:04:57,631 --> 04:04:59,999 runs in fronof middle hool 7480 04:04:59,999 --> 04:05:00,667 and frequently parents are 7481 04:05:00,667 --> 04:05:01,368 parked in the bike lanes and 7482 04:05:01,368 --> 04:05:04,968 kids riding to and from school 7483 04:05:06,373 --> 04:05:07,107 or forced to merge with 35 mile 7484 04:05:07,107 --> 04:05:07,708 per hour traffic just to get to 7485 04:05:07,708 --> 04:05:10,108 their classes which is 7486 04:05:12,512 --> 04:05:13,213 completely unsafe And they 7487 04:05:13,213 --> 04:05:13,880 protected bike infrastructure 7488 04:05:13,880 --> 04:05:14,615 would go a long way bearing 7489 04:05:14,615 --> 04:05:18,215 with this to keeping them safe. 7490 04:05:18,752 --> 04:05:19,152 Thank you. 7491 04:05:19,152 --> 04:05:19,987 Thank you. 7492 04:05:19,987 --> 04:05:20,720 Next is John Stump if you can 7493 04:05:20,720 --> 04:05:23,423 please unmute after that is an. 7494 04:05:23,423 --> 04:05:24,258 Johnstone. 7495 04:05:24,258 --> 04:05:26,658 >> Speed kills there's no 7496 04:05:29,363 --> 04:05:29,996 question about it You know in 7497 04:05:29,996 --> 04:05:32,996 the time since we've been 7498 04:05:34,868 --> 04:05:35,569 tracking automobile deaths and 7499 04:05:35,569 --> 04:05:38,569 injuries the number of deaths 7500 04:05:40,741 --> 04:05:44,341 and injuries has kept at about 7501 04:05:45,790 --> 04:05:45,779 just under 50,000 a year. 7502 04:05:45,779 --> 04:05:49,379 Now the decrease at first was 7503 04:05:50,284 --> 04:05:51,180 because we put in padded dashes 7504 04:05:51,180 --> 04:05:51,718 and collapsible steering wheels 7505 04:05:51,718 --> 04:05:55,318 and all those sort of things. 7506 04:05:56,756 --> 04:05:57,324 But the real problem is speed. 7507 04:05:57,324 --> 04:05:59,724 I support this item. 7508 04:06:01,928 --> 04:06:02,595 I hope that enforcement will 7509 04:06:02,595 --> 04:06:02,929 enforce speed limits on Home 7510 04:06:02,929 --> 04:06:04,929 Avenue. 7511 04:06:08,302 --> 04:06:08,936 I live a half mile from it and 7512 04:06:08,936 --> 04:06:11,936 every night it's a track. 7513 04:06:13,410 --> 04:06:14,410 Home avenue please include 7514 04:06:14,410 --> 04:06:14,641 speed containment on Home 7515 04:06:14,641 --> 04:06:17,410 Avenue in District four. 7516 04:06:19,947 --> 04:06:20,414 Thank you. 7517 04:06:20,414 --> 04:06:21,215 Thank you. 7518 04:06:21,215 --> 04:06:24,785 And if you can please unmute. 7519 04:06:24,785 --> 04:06:25,386 After that is Kathryn Douglas. 7520 04:06:25,386 --> 04:06:27,386 >> Hey good afternoon. 7521 04:06:32,126 --> 04:06:32,826 My name is an r so I have and 7522 04:06:32,826 --> 04:06:33,194 I'm the executive director of 7523 04:06:33,194 --> 04:06:33,894 Bike City. 7524 04:06:33,894 --> 04:06:36,697 I want to thank city staff and 7525 04:06:36,697 --> 04:06:37,331 this council for making 7526 04:06:37,331 --> 04:06:38,320 the right choice here and 7527 04:06:38,320 --> 04:06:40,432 advancing the speed management 7528 04:06:42,503 --> 04:06:43,170 plan And I look forward to it 7529 04:06:43,170 --> 04:06:43,571 passing and eventually being 7530 04:06:43,571 --> 04:06:44,171 implemented. 7531 04:06:44,171 --> 04:06:47,171 About two years ago City 7532 04:06:48,542 --> 04:06:49,109 launched our legislation that 7533 04:06:49,109 --> 04:06:49,844 saves lives campaigns. 7534 04:06:49,844 --> 04:06:52,844 The push for the implementation 7535 04:06:53,681 --> 04:06:54,282 of two critical state laws ab 7536 04:06:54,282 --> 04:06:55,160 43 and ab 413. 7537 04:06:55,160 --> 04:06:58,160 These laws together give cities 7538 04:06:58,552 --> 04:06:59,119 the tools to reduce speeds and 7539 04:06:59,119 --> 04:06:59,553 improve visibility at 7540 04:06:59,553 --> 04:07:00,220 intersections. 7541 04:07:00,220 --> 04:07:00,621 Proven ways to save lives on 7542 04:07:00,621 --> 04:07:02,621 our streets. 7543 04:07:04,992 --> 04:07:05,726 We're grateful for 7544 04:07:05,726 --> 04:07:06,427 the willingness of many council 7545 04:07:06,427 --> 04:07:09,596 members and staff to have met 7546 04:07:09,596 --> 04:07:10,264 with us over the past two years 7547 04:07:10,264 --> 04:07:10,765 and work collaboratively to 7548 04:07:10,765 --> 04:07:11,399 move this forward. 7549 04:07:11,399 --> 04:07:14,399 Lowering speed limits is a 7550 04:07:14,835 --> 04:07:15,201 meaningful step in the right 7551 04:07:15,201 --> 04:07:16,300 direction. 7552 04:07:16,300 --> 04:07:16,704 But if we want to truly achieve 7553 04:07:16,704 --> 04:07:20,174 Vision Zero we know that signs 7554 04:07:20,174 --> 04:07:20,941 alone are not enough. 7555 04:07:20,941 --> 04:07:21,475 The next step must be street 7556 04:07:21,475 --> 04:07:22,143 reconfiguration and 7557 04:07:22,143 --> 04:07:24,143 infrastructure that actually 7558 04:07:26,414 --> 04:07:27,147 slows vehicles down By design 7559 04:07:27,147 --> 04:07:29,547 that means safer intersections, 7560 04:07:32,486 --> 04:07:33,154 daylighting traffic calming and 7561 04:07:33,154 --> 04:07:33,854 protected spaces for people 7562 04:07:33,854 --> 04:07:34,255 walking and biking as well as 7563 04:07:34,255 --> 04:07:36,255 enforcement. 7564 04:07:38,826 --> 04:07:39,460 We appreciate the progress 7565 04:07:39,460 --> 04:07:40,610 today and look forward to 7566 04:07:40,610 --> 04:07:40,761 continuing to work with 7567 04:07:40,761 --> 04:07:44,361 the city to build streets that 7568 04:07:45,766 --> 04:07:46,100 are truly safe for all San 7569 04:07:46,100 --> 04:07:46,533 Diegans. 7570 04:07:46,533 --> 04:07:47,235 >> Thank you. 7571 04:07:47,235 --> 04:07:47,634 Thank you, Kathryn Douglas and 7572 04:07:47,634 --> 04:07:49,634 then Nicole. 7573 04:07:51,305 --> 04:07:51,773 Your final speaker, Speaker 7574 04:07:51,773 --> 04:07:52,306 Nicole Burgess. 7575 04:07:52,306 --> 04:07:54,306 Long meeting today. 7576 04:07:57,812 --> 04:07:58,512 It's not that I'm opposed to 7577 04:07:58,512 --> 04:07:59,179 lowering speed limits but that 7578 04:07:59,179 --> 04:08:02,779 alone is not going to solve 7579 04:08:03,893 --> 04:08:04,218 the issue You hope to mitigate 7580 04:08:04,218 --> 04:08:04,919 . 7581 04:08:04,919 --> 04:08:05,653 Lowering the speed limit will 7582 04:08:05,653 --> 04:08:08,653 have zero effect unless coupled 7583 04:08:09,991 --> 04:08:10,692 with consistent widespread 7584 04:08:10,692 --> 04:08:10,992 enforcement which we do not 7585 04:08:10,992 --> 04:08:11,693 have. 7586 04:08:11,693 --> 04:08:14,693 Lowering the speed limit does 7587 04:08:16,300 --> 04:08:16,631 not change bad behavior. 7588 04:08:16,631 --> 04:08:16,998 Enforcement changes bad 7589 04:08:16,998 --> 04:08:18,998 behavior. 7590 04:08:22,937 --> 04:08:23,638 But the $2.4 million into cpd 7591 04:08:23,638 --> 04:08:24,380 so they can do the need for 7592 04:08:24,380 --> 04:08:26,380 enforcement. 7593 04:08:27,942 --> 04:08:28,643 I'm going to reiterate. 7594 04:08:28,643 --> 04:08:31,643 Lowering the speed limit will 7595 04:08:32,914 --> 04:08:33,514 have zero in fact unless 7596 04:08:33,514 --> 04:08:34,249 coupled with consistent 7597 04:08:34,249 --> 04:08:34,649 widespread enforcement which we 7598 04:08:34,649 --> 04:08:36,649 do not have. 7599 04:08:39,287 --> 04:08:39,887 Lowering the speed limit does 7600 04:08:39,887 --> 04:08:40,488 not change bad behavior. 7601 04:08:40,488 --> 04:08:42,488 Enforcement changes bad 7602 04:08:45,827 --> 04:08:46,294 behavior. 7603 04:08:46,294 --> 04:08:46,795 Thank you. 7604 04:08:46,795 --> 04:08:47,495 Thank you, Nicole. 7605 04:08:47,495 --> 04:08:50,495 If you can please unmute. 7606 04:08:51,966 --> 04:08:52,700 If you raise your hand after 7607 04:08:52,700 --> 04:08:53,100 that there are no more speakers 7608 04:08:53,100 --> 04:08:53,735 to be taken. 7609 04:08:53,735 --> 04:08:54,101 The five minute timer had 7610 04:08:54,101 --> 04:08:56,101 concluded. 7611 04:08:57,405 --> 04:08:57,872 Nicole please proceed. 7612 04:08:57,872 --> 04:08:58,539 Good afternoon. 7613 04:08:58,539 --> 04:08:59,240 My name's Nicole Burgess and 7614 04:08:59,240 --> 04:09:02,840 I'm here to show support for 7615 04:09:03,677 --> 04:09:04,379 the speed management plan and 7616 04:09:04,379 --> 04:09:05,246 all quick build projects that 7617 04:09:05,246 --> 04:09:09,316 can come up with a good budget 7618 04:09:09,316 --> 04:09:10,850 management. 7619 04:09:10,850 --> 04:09:10,852 I appreciate all of you staff 7620 04:09:10,852 --> 04:09:14,452 and all the awards that have 7621 04:09:15,857 --> 04:09:16,524 brought this forward to try to 7622 04:09:16,524 --> 04:09:17,225 get this to this point and I 7623 04:09:17,225 --> 04:09:17,559 appreciate all of you for your 7624 04:09:17,559 --> 04:09:19,559 support. 7625 04:09:21,762 --> 04:09:22,364 Moving this forward for all 7626 04:09:22,364 --> 04:09:23,640 the reasons that so many 7627 04:09:23,640 --> 04:09:26,640 speakers have said speed saves 7628 04:09:27,402 --> 04:09:27,936 lives So speed kills and slower 7629 04:09:27,936 --> 04:09:29,936 speeds always lives. 7630 04:09:33,808 --> 04:09:34,509 So imagine you on a 30 mile an 7631 04:09:34,509 --> 04:09:37,509 hour street riding your bike. 7632 04:09:39,847 --> 04:09:40,548 The thing that's going to make 7633 04:09:40,548 --> 04:09:41,282 you feel more comfortable is 7634 04:09:41,282 --> 04:09:41,616 when those cars are going 20mph 7635 04:09:41,616 --> 04:09:43,616 or less. 7636 04:09:45,620 --> 04:09:46,120 Our kids going to school is 7637 04:09:46,120 --> 04:09:46,821 the biggest thing. 7638 04:09:46,821 --> 04:09:47,121 So I appreciate that being our 7639 04:09:47,121 --> 04:09:47,755 focus. 7640 04:09:47,755 --> 04:09:50,625 Safe routes to schools and 7641 04:09:50,625 --> 04:09:51,493 getting these kids active and 7642 04:09:51,493 --> 04:09:52,159 moving to school is going to be 7643 04:09:52,159 --> 04:09:52,527 the best thing we can do for 7644 04:09:52,527 --> 04:09:53,295 our kids. 7645 04:09:53,295 --> 04:09:56,498 So all around this is better 7646 04:09:56,498 --> 04:09:57,650 for our communities, our 7647 04:09:57,650 --> 04:09:57,766 people, the people on 7648 04:09:57,766 --> 04:10:00,766 the streets every day whether 7649 04:10:02,904 --> 04:10:03,605 you're in a car bike fight 7650 04:10:03,605 --> 04:10:04,506 we're all going to be safer. 7651 04:10:04,506 --> 04:10:08,106 So thank you staff and board 7652 04:10:09,511 --> 04:10:10,178 for pushing this forward and I 7653 04:10:10,178 --> 04:10:10,545 appreciate you all on this. 7654 04:10:10,545 --> 04:10:10,913 Thank you. 7655 04:10:10,913 --> 04:10:11,546 Thank you. 7656 04:10:11,546 --> 04:10:13,946 That does conclude public 7657 04:10:15,817 --> 04:10:16,151 comment and item two to 7658 04:10:16,151 --> 04:10:16,851 present. 7659 04:10:16,851 --> 04:10:20,451 Thank you City Clerk with that 7660 04:10:20,989 --> 04:10:21,690 So I'll turn it over to my 7661 04:10:21,690 --> 04:10:22,290 colleagues on the council for 7662 04:10:22,290 --> 04:10:22,958 questions, comments and 7663 04:10:22,958 --> 04:10:25,958 entertain a motion and we'll 7664 04:10:27,662 --> 04:10:28,229 start out with the chair of 7665 04:10:28,229 --> 04:10:28,697 Active Transportation 7666 04:10:28,697 --> 04:10:29,364 Infrastructure. 7667 04:10:29,364 --> 04:10:29,997 Council Member Clyburn Thank 7668 04:10:29,997 --> 04:10:32,397 you Council PRESIDENT And 7669 04:10:33,668 --> 04:10:34,369 thanks to everybody who came 7670 04:10:34,369 --> 04:10:34,936 out or called in to offer 7671 04:10:34,936 --> 04:10:35,570 public comment on this 7672 04:10:35,570 --> 04:10:37,570 The active transportation 7673 04:10:38,973 --> 04:10:39,608 infrastructure Committee voted 7674 04:10:39,608 --> 04:10:40,342 unanimously last month to 7675 04:10:40,342 --> 04:10:43,342 recommend the council pass this 7676 04:10:45,147 --> 04:10:45,948 And I think my committee 7677 04:10:45,948 --> 04:10:46,614 colleagues for that and I want 7678 04:10:46,614 --> 04:10:47,281 to thank the Transportation 7679 04:10:47,281 --> 04:10:50,281 Department for all the work 7680 04:10:50,652 --> 04:10:51,419 that has got into this and this 7681 04:10:51,419 --> 04:10:51,987 has been a lot of work. 7682 04:10:51,987 --> 04:10:52,688 I appreciate all of 7683 04:10:52,688 --> 04:10:55,880 the neighborhood residents and 7684 04:10:56,557 --> 04:10:57,259 traffic safety advocates who've 7685 04:10:57,259 --> 04:10:57,926 been calling for speed limit 7686 04:10:57,926 --> 04:10:58,727 reductions for a long time. 7687 04:10:58,727 --> 04:11:02,327 They have inspired much of this 7688 04:11:02,396 --> 04:11:03,164 work. 7689 04:11:03,164 --> 04:11:03,865 This will make our neighborhood 7690 04:11:03,865 --> 04:11:04,499 safer by reducing speed limits 7691 04:11:04,499 --> 04:11:06,899 at school zones, business 7692 04:11:08,670 --> 04:11:09,370 districts and areas with lots 7693 04:11:09,370 --> 04:11:10,720 of pedestrians and bicyclists 7694 04:11:10,720 --> 04:11:10,638 and in places where there have 7695 04:11:10,638 --> 04:11:13,638 been a lot of crashes. 7696 04:11:15,777 --> 04:11:16,478 Speed limits in school zones 7697 04:11:16,478 --> 04:11:17,780 will be reduced to 15 miles an 7698 04:11:17,780 --> 04:11:17,412 hour where children are 7699 04:11:17,412 --> 04:11:18,130 present. 7700 04:11:18,130 --> 04:11:21,130 This will be much safer 7701 04:11:21,517 --> 04:11:22,284 especially for young children 7702 04:11:22,284 --> 04:11:22,684 who MAY not be paying attention 7703 04:11:22,684 --> 04:11:24,684 to traffic. 7704 04:11:25,253 --> 04:11:26,210 Most other areas that get lower 7705 04:11:26,210 --> 04:11:26,688 speed limits will see a five 7706 04:11:26,688 --> 04:11:27,356 mile an hour reduction Just 7707 04:11:27,356 --> 04:11:30,356 slowing down speeds a little 7708 04:11:31,527 --> 04:11:31,960 bit could make a big difference 7709 04:11:31,960 --> 04:11:32,628 in safety. 7710 04:11:32,628 --> 04:11:33,195 People across the city have 7711 04:11:33,195 --> 04:11:33,862 been asking for this. 7712 04:11:33,862 --> 04:11:36,262 Our neighborhoods want safer 7713 04:11:38,467 --> 04:11:39,168 streets with slower speeds. 7714 04:11:39,168 --> 04:11:39,835 Many people are asking us to 7715 04:11:39,835 --> 04:11:42,235 prioritize the school zones 7716 04:11:44,774 --> 04:11:45,407 where we begin implementing 7717 04:11:45,407 --> 04:11:46,108 the reduced speed limits. 7718 04:11:46,108 --> 04:11:46,775 MR. Grossman from circulating 7719 04:11:46,775 --> 04:11:49,775 the Eagle Report started her 7720 04:11:50,179 --> 04:11:50,913 comments this afternoon. 7721 04:11:50,913 --> 04:11:51,613 So for the record I'll ask 7722 04:11:51,613 --> 04:11:52,280 the same question that I asked 7723 04:11:52,280 --> 04:11:55,880 a committee which is can we 7724 04:11:56,685 --> 04:11:57,152 start by reducing speed limits 7725 04:11:57,152 --> 04:11:57,853 in school zones? 7726 04:11:57,853 --> 04:12:00,253 That's great Council Member 7727 04:12:02,892 --> 04:12:03,192 It'll be prioritized at school 7728 04:12:03,192 --> 04:12:03,892 zones. 7729 04:12:03,892 --> 04:12:04,693 Thank you very much and thank 7730 04:12:04,693 --> 04:12:08,893 you again for all of your work 7731 04:12:09,865 --> 04:12:10,633 on this. 7732 04:12:10,633 --> 04:12:11,367 And I will make the motion to 7733 04:12:11,367 --> 04:12:12,670 adopt the staff recommendation. 7734 04:12:12,670 --> 04:12:12,435 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 7735 04:12:12,435 --> 04:12:12,800 All right. 7736 04:12:12,800 --> 04:12:14,800 Thank you. 7737 04:12:15,700 --> 04:12:15,804 Council Member Towns So we do 7738 04:12:15,804 --> 04:12:16,437 have a motion to move the staff 7739 04:12:16,437 --> 04:12:17,105 recommendation by council 7740 04:12:17,105 --> 04:12:20,705 member and we'll go next to 7741 04:12:26,582 --> 04:12:27,282 council member camp You so 7742 04:12:27,282 --> 04:12:27,949 maybe we want to thank 7743 04:12:27,949 --> 04:12:30,349 the council member committee 7744 04:12:38,960 --> 04:12:39,628 for want to give him a second 7745 04:12:39,628 --> 04:12:40,361 when the time comes back and 7746 04:12:40,361 --> 04:12:40,729 we'll go next to council member 7747 04:12:40,729 --> 04:12:42,729 elevator. 7748 04:12:43,532 --> 04:12:45,532 All right. 7749 04:12:46,836 --> 04:12:47,536 I think I'll withhold 7750 04:12:47,536 --> 04:12:51,136 the second First I think it's 7751 04:12:54,900 --> 04:12:54,777 important to correct. 7752 04:12:54,777 --> 04:12:55,244 I will go next to council 7753 04:12:55,244 --> 04:12:55,677 member Campbell. 7754 04:12:55,677 --> 04:12:56,450 My apologies. 7755 04:12:56,450 --> 04:12:56,345 Thank you. 7756 04:12:56,345 --> 04:12:58,345 Sorry. 7757 04:12:59,548 --> 04:12:59,815 Council member deliverer Thank 7758 04:12:59,815 --> 04:13:00,549 you. 7759 04:13:00,549 --> 04:13:01,217 Staff Thank you very much for 7760 04:13:01,217 --> 04:13:01,517 your presentation, your good 7761 04:13:01,517 --> 04:13:03,517 work. 7762 04:13:05,187 --> 04:13:05,821 I'm happy to second the item 7763 04:13:05,821 --> 04:13:06,521 and I think council member 7764 04:13:06,521 --> 04:13:07,156 Whitburn for his good work and 7765 04:13:07,156 --> 04:13:09,556 his partnership and quite 7766 04:13:10,459 --> 04:13:11,128 frankly the entire Council's 7767 04:13:11,128 --> 04:13:11,861 partnership on this type of 7768 04:13:11,861 --> 04:13:14,861 issue We hear from constituents 7769 04:13:16,265 --> 04:13:16,966 so often about how they just 7770 04:13:16,966 --> 04:13:19,966 want safety in their community 7771 04:13:22,905 --> 04:13:23,573 and I can point to police, we 7772 04:13:23,573 --> 04:13:24,173 can point to fire and very, 7773 04:13:24,173 --> 04:13:24,874 very often I point to 7774 04:13:24,874 --> 04:13:26,874 the Transportation Department 7775 04:13:28,643 --> 04:13:29,345 for their work as colleagues of 7776 04:13:29,345 --> 04:13:31,345 shared Eliminating preventable 7777 04:13:34,450 --> 04:13:35,510 traffic deaths is so important. 7778 04:13:35,510 --> 04:13:35,717 The heartbreak we see in 7779 04:13:35,717 --> 04:13:38,117 communities lasts a lifetime 7780 04:13:39,521 --> 04:13:40,189 and it's a fundamental 7781 04:13:40,189 --> 04:13:40,823 responsibility to make sure 7782 04:13:40,823 --> 04:13:41,157 residents can move around 7783 04:13:41,157 --> 04:13:43,157 safely. 7784 04:13:45,627 --> 04:13:46,295 And we know that unsafe driving 7785 04:13:46,295 --> 04:13:46,996 is the primary cause of 7786 04:13:46,996 --> 04:13:47,762 the severe crashes we see And 7787 04:13:47,762 --> 04:13:51,362 what I've heard for so many 7788 04:13:51,934 --> 04:13:52,601 times in so many town halls is 7789 04:13:52,601 --> 04:13:53,135 that lowering speeds is what 7790 04:13:53,135 --> 04:13:53,802 people want to see. 7791 04:13:53,802 --> 04:13:57,340 And I've always had to point 7792 04:13:57,340 --> 04:13:58,400 back to state law or antiquated 7793 04:13:58,400 --> 04:13:58,707 regulations that say we really 7794 04:13:58,707 --> 04:14:02,307 can't do that for all these 7795 04:14:03,346 --> 04:14:04,213 different reasons But today we 7796 04:14:04,213 --> 04:14:04,947 can fix that and we have an 7797 04:14:04,947 --> 04:14:05,748 action before us That's a major 7798 04:14:05,748 --> 04:14:09,348 step forward And I want to 7799 04:14:09,718 --> 04:14:10,352 recognize the significant 7800 04:14:10,352 --> 04:14:10,953 effort of staff and state 7801 04:14:10,953 --> 04:14:11,588 partners and advocates, 7802 04:14:11,588 --> 04:14:13,588 community members, council 7803 04:14:16,292 --> 04:14:16,893 colleagues battling this act. 7804 04:14:16,893 --> 04:14:17,593 Thank you so much. 7805 04:14:17,593 --> 04:14:18,427 People should know that you've 7806 04:14:18,427 --> 04:14:22,270 saved so many lives in this 7807 04:14:22,231 --> 04:14:22,932 city And of course as the staff 7808 04:14:22,932 --> 04:14:23,566 report notes, this isn't this 7809 04:14:23,566 --> 04:14:26,566 isn't the only thing we're 7810 04:14:27,670 --> 04:14:28,237 doing Lowering speeds alone is 7811 04:14:28,237 --> 04:14:28,938 not the whole picture. 7812 04:14:28,938 --> 04:14:29,672 Safety comes with pairing new 7813 04:14:29,672 --> 04:14:32,720 limits with design improvements 7814 04:14:33,142 --> 04:14:33,842 and education and enforcement 7815 04:14:33,842 --> 04:14:34,510 to truly change that behavior. 7816 04:14:34,510 --> 04:14:37,510 And so while today's action 7817 04:14:38,615 --> 04:14:39,315 sets a new speed limits $2.4 7818 04:14:39,315 --> 04:14:40,830 million are needed to install 7819 04:14:40,830 --> 04:14:43,830 those 3000 new signs needed to 7820 04:14:44,720 --> 04:14:45,488 operationalize it. 7821 04:14:45,488 --> 04:14:46,221 As we discussed last week, 7822 04:14:46,221 --> 04:14:49,958 the ip outlook shows the gap we 7823 04:14:49,958 --> 04:14:50,626 have in mobility safety funding 7824 04:14:50,626 --> 04:14:51,327 which is the same pot that 7825 04:14:51,327 --> 04:14:53,727 supports these safety projects 7826 04:14:55,665 --> 04:14:56,132 that communities ask for For 7827 04:14:56,132 --> 04:14:56,733 District seven. 7828 04:14:56,733 --> 04:14:57,367 Many of the corridors in 7829 04:14:57,367 --> 04:14:58,000 the speed management plan 7830 04:14:58,000 --> 04:15:00,400 include Jackson Drive and 7831 04:15:01,604 --> 04:15:02,271 Waring Road, Zion Avenue, 7832 04:15:02,271 --> 04:15:02,972 Claremont Mesa Boulevard so 7833 04:15:02,972 --> 04:15:05,972 many school area streets where 7834 04:15:07,910 --> 04:15:08,544 families are walking and biking 7835 04:15:08,544 --> 04:15:09,212 every day and where these 7836 04:15:09,212 --> 04:15:09,678 paired safety upgrades will 7837 04:15:09,678 --> 04:15:11,678 matter the most. 7838 04:15:13,116 --> 04:15:13,817 So with all of that in mind 7839 04:15:13,817 --> 04:15:14,517 staff, my question for you is 7840 04:15:14,517 --> 04:15:18,117 what is the plan to prioritize 7841 04:15:19,155 --> 04:15:19,856 and coordinate the work so that 7842 04:15:19,856 --> 04:15:20,522 we can see the reductions and 7843 04:15:20,522 --> 04:15:22,922 those improvements roll out 7844 04:15:25,694 --> 04:15:26,462 along this course? 7845 04:15:26,462 --> 04:15:30,620 So we will prioritize areas as 7846 04:15:30,799 --> 04:15:31,501 we mentioned where the safety 7847 04:15:31,501 --> 04:15:32,235 benefit is going to be 7848 04:15:32,235 --> 04:15:35,235 the highest and that's starting 7849 04:15:37,273 --> 04:15:38,700 with the schools located along 7850 04:15:38,700 --> 04:15:38,674 safety corridors or near safety 7851 04:15:38,674 --> 04:15:41,740 corridors followed by other 7852 04:15:43,747 --> 04:15:44,447 school areas and then we can 7853 04:15:44,447 --> 04:15:45,148 work on the rest of the safety 7854 04:15:45,148 --> 04:15:45,749 corridors themselves followed 7855 04:15:45,749 --> 04:15:46,116 by the business activity 7856 04:15:46,116 --> 04:15:48,116 district. 7857 04:15:49,419 --> 04:15:50,119 But that's how it's being 7858 04:15:50,119 --> 04:15:50,753 prioritized currently based on 7859 04:15:50,753 --> 04:15:53,153 feedback that we received. 7860 04:15:55,225 --> 04:15:55,892 >> Understood. 7861 04:15:55,892 --> 04:15:56,526 Well, I appreciate the good 7862 04:15:56,526 --> 04:15:57,159 work of the Transportation 7863 04:15:57,159 --> 04:15:57,861 Department working with my 7864 04:15:57,861 --> 04:16:01,310 office, with my staff and and 7865 04:16:01,310 --> 04:16:01,731 working with your team whether 7866 04:16:01,731 --> 04:16:02,432 it's 730 in the morning paving 7867 04:16:02,432 --> 04:16:05,432 roads or we're talking in 7868 04:16:06,769 --> 04:16:07,504 briefings about how we're going 7869 04:16:07,504 --> 04:16:07,837 to make places safer for people 7870 04:16:07,837 --> 04:16:08,405 to walk. 7871 04:16:08,405 --> 04:16:10,405 My constituents deeply 7872 04:16:14,344 --> 04:16:15,450 appreciate this item And so I 7873 04:16:15,450 --> 04:16:15,479 that will conclude my second. 7874 04:16:15,479 --> 04:16:15,846 >> All right. 7875 04:16:15,846 --> 04:16:16,546 Thank you. 7876 04:16:16,546 --> 04:16:17,790 Council member committee Also 7877 04:16:17,790 --> 04:16:19,783 we have a motion by 7878 04:16:19,783 --> 04:16:20,450 Councilmember Whitburn, 7879 04:16:20,450 --> 04:16:20,750 the second by Councilmember 7880 04:16:20,750 --> 04:16:21,283 Kemp. 7881 04:16:21,283 --> 04:16:21,985 He told me the staff 7882 04:16:21,985 --> 04:16:24,787 recommendation will go back to 7883 04:16:24,787 --> 04:16:25,388 council member Eli Romero. 7884 04:16:25,388 --> 04:16:25,955 PRESIDENT Thanks for all 7885 04:16:25,955 --> 04:16:26,789 the work that is here. 7886 04:16:26,789 --> 04:16:30,389 I do want to just quickly 7887 04:16:30,894 --> 04:16:31,561 correct record because Council 7888 04:16:31,561 --> 04:16:33,961 PRESIDENT You were unfairly 7889 04:16:36,466 --> 04:16:37,234 blamed for something so came 7890 04:16:37,234 --> 04:16:41,434 down a few years ago came down 7891 04:16:42,806 --> 04:16:43,507 before this PRESIDENT For my 7892 04:16:43,507 --> 04:16:44,174 direction because I thought it 7893 04:16:44,174 --> 04:16:47,174 was weird to the PRESIDENT's 7894 04:16:48,780 --> 04:16:48,745 head floating in our chambers. 7895 04:16:48,745 --> 04:16:49,546 This is not a monarchy. 7896 04:16:49,546 --> 04:16:53,146 This is a city council chambers 7897 04:16:55,520 --> 04:16:55,652 And thank GOD that that fascist 7898 04:16:55,652 --> 04:16:58,652 base is in in here. 7899 04:17:00,457 --> 04:17:01,158 So on the other hand I'm sorry 7900 04:17:01,158 --> 04:17:04,461 you take enough in that seat 7901 04:17:04,461 --> 04:17:05,329 you don't need to take residual 7902 04:17:05,329 --> 04:17:08,929 for my decisions of a couple 7903 04:17:12,302 --> 04:17:13,300 years ago is a super important 7904 04:17:13,300 --> 04:17:13,837 and I'm really really grateful 7905 04:17:13,837 --> 04:17:18,370 that this is here in this way 7906 04:17:18,108 --> 04:17:18,742 This has been said time and 7907 04:17:18,742 --> 04:17:19,380 time again Speed kills and 7908 04:17:19,380 --> 04:17:21,780 slower speeds save lives. 7909 04:17:22,946 --> 04:17:23,714 We know that. 7910 04:17:23,714 --> 04:17:27,314 We've known that And far too 7911 04:17:28,886 --> 04:17:29,619 many times we've heard families 7912 04:17:29,619 --> 04:17:32,619 of victims of traffic violence 7913 04:17:35,425 --> 04:17:36,126 beg with us to make streets 7914 04:17:36,126 --> 04:17:36,827 safer in the city not because 7915 04:17:36,827 --> 04:17:40,427 it will bring back their loved 7916 04:17:41,498 --> 04:17:42,398 ones because they with all of 7917 04:17:42,398 --> 04:17:43,133 their hearts do not want to see 7918 04:17:43,133 --> 04:17:46,733 anybody else feel the pain that 7919 04:17:47,871 --> 04:17:48,572 they feel on a daily basis And 7920 04:17:48,572 --> 04:17:50,972 they can see throughout 7921 04:17:53,277 --> 04:17:53,944 the city the many, many places 7922 04:17:53,944 --> 04:17:54,278 where people's lives are in 7923 04:17:54,278 --> 04:17:56,278 danger. 7924 04:17:58,916 --> 04:18:03,116 And we saw a couple of just 7925 04:18:05,589 --> 04:18:06,223 unspeakable tragedies last fall 7926 04:18:06,223 --> 04:18:06,923 one in Catholic appeals 7927 04:18:06,923 --> 04:18:09,323 district, another in District 7928 04:18:11,595 --> 04:18:12,129 nine where a five year old died 7929 04:18:12,129 --> 04:18:14,129 crossing the street. 7930 04:18:17,368 --> 04:18:18,350 And I remember vividly learning 7931 04:18:18,350 --> 04:18:21,635 about that and it was right 7932 04:18:24,174 --> 04:18:24,875 around Halloween and I remember 7933 04:18:24,875 --> 04:18:25,609 holding my son's hand so tight 7934 04:18:25,609 --> 04:18:29,209 that weekend when we were going 7935 04:18:29,613 --> 04:18:30,380 out to look at the monsters 7936 04:18:30,380 --> 04:18:33,980 that he enjoyed looking at in 7937 04:18:36,153 --> 04:18:38,553 different neighborhoods And we 7938 04:18:40,758 --> 04:18:41,659 just have to do better by and I 7939 04:18:41,659 --> 04:18:46,459 know we are and this is a great 7940 04:18:47,298 --> 04:18:48,265 step in that direction. 7941 04:18:48,265 --> 04:18:49,330 I want to kind of Yes And some 7942 04:18:49,330 --> 04:18:52,633 of the comments that we heard 7943 04:18:53,104 --> 04:18:53,671 about this not being enough we 7944 04:18:53,671 --> 04:18:54,371 know it's not enough. 7945 04:18:54,371 --> 04:18:57,371 We know that this requires 7946 04:18:59,643 --> 04:19:00,377 investment and I think one of 7947 04:19:00,377 --> 04:19:04,577 the one of the issues that this 7948 04:19:04,881 --> 04:19:05,515 council has been super, super 7949 04:19:05,515 --> 04:19:06,217 collaborative about and an 7950 04:19:06,217 --> 04:19:06,917 agreement about is the need to 7951 04:19:06,917 --> 04:19:10,517 make our streets safer and to 7952 04:19:16,159 --> 04:19:16,927 invest in the changes. 7953 04:19:16,927 --> 04:19:17,695 So it is true that simply 7954 04:19:17,695 --> 04:19:20,695 posting a street sign won't 7955 04:19:22,599 --> 04:19:23,300 necessarily improve safety but 7956 04:19:23,300 --> 04:19:24,000 it is a step in the right 7957 04:19:24,000 --> 04:19:27,600 direction and we know that it 7958 04:19:28,506 --> 04:19:29,206 will help reduce speed and we 7959 04:19:29,206 --> 04:19:29,839 can make changes by way of 7960 04:19:29,839 --> 04:19:32,239 traffic calming and street 7961 04:19:34,145 --> 04:19:34,545 redesign and enforcement 7962 04:19:34,545 --> 04:19:35,146 strategies. 7963 04:19:35,146 --> 04:19:35,813 Ultimately this is about 7964 04:19:35,813 --> 04:19:38,213 accountability and not just 7965 04:19:41,185 --> 04:19:41,886 accountability for dangerous 7966 04:19:41,886 --> 04:19:42,587 drivers but accountability for 7967 04:19:42,587 --> 04:19:43,254 us as a city and demonstrating 7968 04:19:43,254 --> 04:19:46,190 that if we're serious about 7969 04:19:46,190 --> 04:19:46,891 eliminating traffic fatalities 7970 04:19:46,891 --> 04:19:47,524 that we're going to invest in 7971 04:19:47,524 --> 04:19:49,924 every tool available from 7972 04:19:52,663 --> 04:19:53,264 street management to safety 7973 04:19:53,264 --> 04:19:53,664 redesign to data driven 7974 04:19:53,664 --> 04:19:54,331 investments. 7975 04:19:54,331 --> 04:19:58,202 I will just be besides why I 7976 04:19:58,202 --> 04:19:58,903 think given where we're at in 7977 04:19:58,903 --> 04:19:59,604 terms of our structural budget 7978 04:19:59,604 --> 04:20:00,304 deficit, the backlog in street 7979 04:20:00,304 --> 04:20:01,139 repairs, why it's going to be 7980 04:20:01,139 --> 04:20:04,739 so important for us to continue 7981 04:20:08,746 --> 04:20:09,413 to lean into and know I've said 7982 04:20:09,413 --> 04:20:10,140 this time and time again but 7983 04:20:10,140 --> 04:20:12,414 quick build projects and 7984 04:20:13,985 --> 04:20:14,685 working with community to to 7985 04:20:14,685 --> 04:20:15,353 make changes quickly so that 7986 04:20:15,353 --> 04:20:17,753 communities aren't told that 7987 04:20:20,625 --> 04:20:21,426 the changes that they need are 7988 04:20:21,426 --> 04:20:25,626 going to come in a decade or 7989 04:20:26,130 --> 04:20:26,931 decade and a half but instead 7990 04:20:26,931 --> 04:20:27,498 in the amount of time that 7991 04:20:27,498 --> 04:20:28,199 feels appropriate for 7992 04:20:28,199 --> 04:20:28,899 the danger that they feel and 7993 04:20:28,899 --> 04:20:31,899 the protection that they feel 7994 04:20:32,602 --> 04:20:32,970 for their families and their 7995 04:20:32,970 --> 04:20:33,603 neighbors. 7996 04:20:33,603 --> 04:20:37,203 So I also thank you again. 7997 04:20:38,475 --> 04:20:39,177 I also want to give now I want 7998 04:20:39,177 --> 04:20:39,743 to give you credit in your new 7999 04:20:39,743 --> 04:20:40,444 role about being super 8000 04:20:40,444 --> 04:20:42,844 communicative, about the ways 8001 04:20:44,315 --> 04:20:45,490 that our parking revenue is 8002 04:20:45,490 --> 04:20:45,617 being used to make improvements 8003 04:20:45,617 --> 04:20:49,217 And I will give you an 8004 04:20:49,587 --> 04:20:50,288 opportunity at the kind of 8005 04:20:50,288 --> 04:20:50,989 seeing the way that this is 8006 04:20:50,989 --> 04:20:51,689 rolled out if there are any 8007 04:20:51,689 --> 04:20:55,289 ideas you have about the ways 8008 04:20:56,460 --> 04:20:57,195 that we can use that revenue to 8009 04:20:57,195 --> 04:20:57,861 improve street safety and speed 8010 04:20:57,861 --> 04:21:01,461 up the way that we're making 8011 04:21:02,200 --> 04:21:04,200 streets safer. 8012 04:21:07,639 --> 04:21:07,955 Thank you, Councilmember Rivera 8013 04:21:07,955 --> 04:21:08,640 Yes. 8014 04:21:08,640 --> 04:21:11,640 That it's something that we 8015 04:21:13,711 --> 04:21:14,512 could look into utilizing. 8016 04:21:14,512 --> 04:21:18,112 So yes, we can definitely look 8017 04:21:19,750 --> 04:21:20,551 into utilizing speed revenues 8018 04:21:20,551 --> 04:21:21,219 for making some of these safety 8019 04:21:21,219 --> 04:21:21,786 improvements in those areas. 8020 04:21:21,786 --> 04:21:23,786 >> I appreciate that. 8021 04:21:26,558 --> 04:21:26,991 Again, thank you for being 8022 04:21:26,991 --> 04:21:27,692 communicative. 8023 04:21:27,692 --> 04:21:28,293 The work that's been done has 8024 04:21:28,293 --> 04:21:28,893 been pretty remarkable. 8025 04:21:28,893 --> 04:21:29,360 Denver Streetlights fix, 8026 04:21:29,360 --> 04:21:31,360 potholes build. 8027 04:21:33,498 --> 04:21:34,198 I see you are following in that 8028 04:21:34,198 --> 04:21:37,798 these big filling that the big 8029 04:21:37,869 --> 04:21:38,737 shoes that you left behind to 8030 04:21:38,737 --> 04:21:39,537 get work done at a fast rate 8031 04:21:39,537 --> 04:21:42,537 and and make sure that 8032 04:21:44,542 --> 04:21:45,143 the community feels the benefit 8033 04:21:45,143 --> 04:21:45,876 from those investments. 8034 04:21:45,876 --> 04:21:46,411 Thank you again for all work to 8035 04:21:46,411 --> 04:21:48,411 bring this forward. 8036 04:21:51,549 --> 04:21:51,880 I'm glad we're taking this 8037 04:21:51,880 --> 04:21:52,517 step. 8038 04:21:52,517 --> 04:21:53,184 That concludes our comments. 8039 04:21:53,184 --> 04:21:53,785 Council PRESIDENT All right. 8040 04:21:53,785 --> 04:21:54,119 Thank you, Councilmember 8041 04:21:54,119 --> 04:21:54,819 Rivera. 8042 04:21:54,819 --> 04:21:56,955 We'll go next to Councilmember 8043 04:21:56,955 --> 04:21:57,822 Bob Wolpert. 8044 04:21:57,822 --> 04:21:58,389 Thank you and thank you for 8045 04:21:58,389 --> 04:22:01,389 the work on this item. 8046 04:22:01,993 --> 04:22:02,794 It's incredibly important that 8047 04:22:02,794 --> 04:22:03,495 we at least strive towards our 8048 04:22:03,495 --> 04:22:06,495 vision Zero goals making sure 8049 04:22:08,466 --> 04:22:09,134 pedestrians, cyclists, children 8050 04:22:09,134 --> 04:22:09,868 walking to school, children 8051 04:22:09,868 --> 04:22:10,268 walking to parks are safe e from 8052 04:22:10,268 --> 04:22:10,902 collisions. 8053 04:22:10,902 --> 04:22:13,902 So thank you to Councilor 8054 04:22:14,539 --> 04:22:15,273 Whitburn for your leadership 8055 04:22:15,273 --> 04:22:15,907 here I ask most of my questions 8056 04:22:15,907 --> 04:22:16,474 at our committee level and 8057 04:22:16,474 --> 04:22:18,474 active transportation. 8058 04:22:20,780 --> 04:22:20,779 I just want to reiterate that 8059 04:22:20,779 --> 04:22:21,346 we did ask our committee that 8060 04:22:21,346 --> 04:22:24,346 since we are going to 8061 04:22:26,284 --> 04:22:26,985 prioritize school zones when 8062 04:22:26,985 --> 04:22:27,652 lowering speed limits first we 8063 04:22:27,652 --> 04:22:28,319 are working with the school 8064 04:22:28,319 --> 04:22:28,619 districts to coordinate with 8065 04:22:28,619 --> 04:22:30,619 them. 8066 04:22:32,724 --> 04:22:33,580 So I'm glad that we were doing 8067 04:22:33,580 --> 04:22:33,859 that. 8068 04:22:33,859 --> 04:22:34,592 I also want to thank the folks 8069 04:22:34,592 --> 04:22:35,326 who come in you know, circulate 8070 04:22:35,326 --> 04:22:38,263 freely with the bike Coalition. 8071 04:22:38,263 --> 04:22:38,897 We are continual advocacy for 8072 04:22:38,897 --> 04:22:39,631 making our streets safer. 8073 04:22:39,631 --> 04:22:43,231 I'm proud to support this item 8074 04:22:43,301 --> 04:22:44,201 and I know that this is only 8075 04:22:44,201 --> 04:22:48,707 one of many tools we can do to 8076 04:22:48,707 --> 04:22:51,707 make our streets safer On 8077 04:22:54,120 --> 04:22:54,713 DECEMBER 21st, 2025 and I will 8078 04:22:54,713 --> 04:22:55,580 one call set things in motion 8079 04:22:55,580 --> 04:22:59,180 after a pedestrian was hit in 8080 04:22:59,450 --> 04:23:00,118 the crosswalk in the corridor 8081 04:23:00,118 --> 04:23:03,118 neighborhood in the suv who 8082 04:23:04,189 --> 04:23:05,890 struck the pedestrian pulled 8083 04:23:05,890 --> 04:23:05,657 over for a second and then took 8084 04:23:05,657 --> 04:23:06,391 off leaving the victim 8085 04:23:06,391 --> 04:23:09,391 seriously injured in the middle 8086 04:23:10,228 --> 04:23:11,290 of the roadway And it was only 8087 04:23:11,290 --> 04:23:11,762 notified to cpd by one of our 8088 04:23:11,762 --> 04:23:14,162 automated license plate readers 8089 04:23:16,435 --> 04:23:17,135 and the smart streetlight They 8090 04:23:17,135 --> 04:23:17,836 caught the collision on camera 8091 04:23:17,836 --> 04:23:21,436 and notified our pd real time 8092 04:23:22,140 --> 04:23:22,774 They were able to dispatch an 8093 04:23:22,774 --> 04:23:23,475 ambulance to the seriously 8094 04:23:23,475 --> 04:23:24,176 injured pedestrian and because 8095 04:23:24,176 --> 04:23:27,312 of a license plate reader they 8096 04:23:27,312 --> 04:23:28,130 were able to catch the hit and 8097 04:23:28,130 --> 04:23:28,646 run driver who stopped notice 8098 04:23:28,646 --> 04:23:31,460 they had seriously injured 8099 04:23:33,518 --> 04:23:34,219 someone and drove away And 8100 04:23:34,219 --> 04:23:34,919 we've seen this as well with 8101 04:23:34,919 --> 04:23:37,319 fatal collision with bicyclist 8102 04:23:39,625 --> 04:23:40,324 as well catching people who 8103 04:23:40,324 --> 04:23:41,260 have who are murdering people 8104 04:23:41,260 --> 04:23:41,660 on the street and leaving And 8105 04:23:41,660 --> 04:23:45,260 so I just want to take 8106 04:23:45,998 --> 04:23:46,698 circulate and others for 8107 04:23:46,698 --> 04:23:47,398 advocating for the responsible 8108 04:23:47,398 --> 04:23:48,133 use of automated license plate 8109 04:23:48,133 --> 04:23:51,133 reader technology because it is 8110 04:23:52,271 --> 04:23:53,138 saving lives even in this way. 8111 04:23:53,138 --> 04:23:53,805 But I do have a question though 8112 04:23:53,805 --> 04:23:54,773 that I get asked often about 8113 04:23:54,773 --> 04:23:57,173 enforcement of speed limits. 8114 04:24:01,513 --> 04:24:02,381 So I see our sergeant is here. 8115 04:24:02,381 --> 04:24:03,140 I get asked by my my my 8116 04:24:03,140 --> 04:24:03,749 neighbors and folks in my 8117 04:24:03,749 --> 04:24:07,349 district all the time about you 8118 04:24:07,386 --> 04:24:08,120 know, people are speeding down 8119 04:24:08,120 --> 04:24:08,820 residential zones and everybody 8120 04:24:08,820 --> 04:24:09,455 want the speed limit or speed 8121 04:24:09,455 --> 04:24:10,155 bump or a stop sign And it 8122 04:24:10,155 --> 04:24:13,155 breaks my heart because often 8123 04:24:13,391 --> 04:24:14,930 these are our neighbors who are 8124 04:24:14,930 --> 04:24:14,759 speeding through our streets. 8125 04:24:14,759 --> 04:24:15,460 But what can we do about our 8126 04:24:15,460 --> 04:24:18,460 enforcement of these new speed 8127 04:24:18,564 --> 04:24:19,970 limits given the police 8128 04:24:19,970 --> 04:24:19,798 department's serious 8129 04:24:19,798 --> 04:24:22,198 constraints and staffing While 8130 04:24:25,370 --> 04:24:25,770 we continue to accept 8131 04:24:25,770 --> 04:24:28,770 suggestions on where to conduct 8132 04:24:30,909 --> 04:24:31,610 enforcement, we have motorcycle 8133 04:24:31,610 --> 04:24:32,310 officers and traffic officers 8134 04:24:32,310 --> 04:24:32,811 who dedicate a lot of time to 8135 04:24:32,811 --> 04:24:34,811 speed enforcement. 8136 04:24:36,515 --> 04:24:37,216 But as you said we don't have 8137 04:24:37,216 --> 04:24:37,882 the resources for every street 8138 04:24:37,882 --> 04:24:38,183 in the city and every school 8139 04:24:38,183 --> 04:24:40,183 zone. 8140 04:24:42,454 --> 04:24:43,321 We're working on getting 8141 04:24:43,321 --> 04:24:43,622 traffic in place and to get it 8142 04:24:43,622 --> 04:24:44,322 done. 8143 04:24:44,322 --> 04:24:44,990 I think that's something that 8144 04:24:44,990 --> 04:24:47,990 we really need to prioritize 8145 04:24:49,194 --> 04:24:49,694 that will allow you citizens 8146 04:24:49,694 --> 04:24:50,395 anybody to submit 8147 04:24:50,395 --> 04:24:53,395 the complaints just like with 8148 04:24:55,234 --> 04:24:55,968 parking complaints and those 8149 04:24:55,968 --> 04:24:56,635 will go to traffic division and 8150 04:24:56,635 --> 04:24:57,336 our more cycle officers our 8151 04:24:57,336 --> 04:24:58,700 traffic officers will be able 8152 04:24:58,700 --> 04:25:01,440 to pull it up on their on their 8153 04:25:01,440 --> 04:25:02,740 phone If they're in 8154 04:25:02,740 --> 04:25:02,774 Northeastern division they 8155 04:25:02,774 --> 04:25:03,476 could see where the complaints 8156 04:25:03,476 --> 04:25:07,760 are and they could update that 8157 04:25:07,579 --> 04:25:08,180 information to go right back to 8158 04:25:08,180 --> 04:25:08,514 the citizen via email or 8159 04:25:08,514 --> 04:25:10,514 however. 8160 04:25:13,619 --> 04:25:14,353 So we have to prioritize based 8161 04:25:14,353 --> 04:25:15,540 on a crash site that we have 8162 04:25:15,540 --> 04:25:17,454 but really citizen complaints 8163 04:25:19,759 --> 04:25:20,493 of people that know their 8164 04:25:20,493 --> 04:25:20,759 neighborhood where the speeding 8165 04:25:20,759 --> 04:25:21,394 is. 8166 04:25:21,394 --> 04:25:22,600 Okay, Thank you very much. 8167 04:25:22,600 --> 04:25:25,600 I will let our constituents 8168 04:25:26,310 --> 04:25:26,732 know what if I get a dozen 8169 04:25:26,732 --> 04:25:27,433 requests and that we are also 8170 04:25:27,433 --> 04:25:28,100 always working with our school 8171 04:25:28,100 --> 04:25:31,690 district saying hey, do you 8172 04:25:31,690 --> 04:25:31,670 have personnel come out and 8173 04:25:31,670 --> 04:25:32,710 help with crosswalks and 8174 04:25:32,710 --> 04:25:32,772 everything? 8175 04:25:32,772 --> 04:25:33,472 But thank you for being here. 8176 04:25:33,472 --> 04:25:37,720 I appreciate all the work you 8177 04:25:37,376 --> 04:25:37,777 do and I'm proud to support 8178 04:25:37,777 --> 04:25:38,144 this motion. 8179 04:25:38,144 --> 04:25:38,510 All right. 8180 04:25:38,510 --> 04:25:38,978 Thank you. 8181 04:25:38,978 --> 04:25:39,611 Council member. 8182 04:25:39,611 --> 04:25:42,611 We'll go next to Council 8183 04:25:43,182 --> 04:25:43,816 PRESIDENT Pro Tem We thank us 8184 04:25:43,816 --> 04:25:44,550 PRESIDENT And thank you to 8185 04:25:44,550 --> 04:25:47,550 the team for your presentation. 8186 04:25:47,787 --> 04:25:48,521 We of course heard this at 80 8187 04:25:48,521 --> 04:25:49,255 So I think I just want to add 8188 04:25:49,255 --> 04:25:49,589 sort of a pragmatic lens to all 8189 04:25:49,589 --> 04:25:51,589 of this. 8190 04:25:53,492 --> 04:25:54,227 You had mentioned that if this 8191 04:25:54,227 --> 04:25:58,427 were to be implemented in the f 8192 04:25:59,265 --> 04:25:59,965 y 27 period that 8193 04:25:59,965 --> 04:26:00,666 the anticipated need in 8194 04:26:00,666 --> 04:26:01,000 the budget would be about $2.4 8195 04:26:01,000 --> 04:26:01,333 million. 8196 04:26:01,333 --> 04:26:03,333 Correct. 8197 04:26:04,670 --> 04:26:05,338 And I think we're one of 8198 04:26:05,338 --> 04:26:05,972 the states and probably even 8199 04:26:05,972 --> 04:26:06,706 the public recognizes that 8200 04:26:06,706 --> 04:26:09,106 given the budgetary constraints 8201 04:26:10,142 --> 04:26:10,843 that we're facing, I'm going to 8202 04:26:10,843 --> 04:26:11,677 even assume that that is going 8203 04:26:11,677 --> 04:26:15,877 to be a tall order And at 8204 04:26:16,182 --> 04:26:16,882 the end of the day we need to 8205 04:26:16,882 --> 04:26:17,282 actually think about a couple 8206 04:26:17,282 --> 04:26:17,917 of factors. 8207 04:26:17,917 --> 04:26:21,354 And so I want to emphasize 8208 04:26:21,354 --> 04:26:22,880 asking that the department as 8209 04:26:22,880 --> 04:26:22,721 you're looking at the potential 8210 04:26:22,721 --> 04:26:25,121 for implementing work with 8211 04:26:27,359 --> 04:26:27,960 the data that we do have 8212 04:26:27,960 --> 04:26:28,661 recognizing that from a 8213 04:26:28,661 --> 04:26:29,328 capacity standpoint you noted 8214 04:26:29,328 --> 04:26:30,290 that we're not being able to 8215 04:26:30,290 --> 04:26:33,290 make all decisions in-house as 8216 04:26:34,233 --> 04:26:34,834 well and some of that would 8217 04:26:34,834 --> 04:26:35,501 have to be set outside. 8218 04:26:35,501 --> 04:26:36,269 I think depending on what we 8219 04:26:36,269 --> 04:26:39,269 are able to allocate in 8220 04:26:39,472 --> 04:26:40,206 the budget we have a bit of 8221 04:26:40,206 --> 04:26:40,940 data throughout the city that I 8222 04:26:40,940 --> 04:26:41,474 think is actually quite helpful 8223 04:26:41,474 --> 04:26:43,874 as we determine what 8224 04:26:45,578 --> 04:26:46,412 the priorities are. 8225 04:26:46,412 --> 04:26:47,790 Some of that might be from 8226 04:26:47,790 --> 04:26:47,647 traffic reports, some of it 8227 04:26:47,647 --> 04:26:50,470 might be from citizen 8228 04:26:52,251 --> 04:26:52,952 complaints but we also have a 8229 04:26:52,952 --> 04:26:53,652 pretty good sense of the most 8230 04:26:53,652 --> 04:26:54,353 dangerous intersections around 8231 04:26:54,353 --> 04:26:58,553 the city And when you tie that 8232 04:26:58,891 --> 04:26:59,559 to nearby school zones I think 8233 04:26:59,559 --> 04:27:03,159 it gives you a sense of 8234 04:27:03,997 --> 04:27:04,763 corridors where traffic and 8235 04:27:04,763 --> 04:27:05,331 speed can be an issue because I 8236 04:27:05,331 --> 04:27:06,310 think like many of my 8237 04:27:06,310 --> 04:27:09,310 colleagues would echo that We 8238 04:27:10,469 --> 04:27:11,137 all recognize that simply 8239 04:27:11,137 --> 04:27:11,837 changing the number on that 8240 04:27:11,837 --> 04:27:12,338 street won't necessarily slow 8241 04:27:12,338 --> 04:27:14,338 the traffic down. 8242 04:27:16,876 --> 04:27:17,543 It's one step but it's going to 8243 04:27:17,543 --> 04:27:18,211 require additional follow up 8244 04:27:18,211 --> 04:27:20,611 Whether that's other traffic 8245 04:27:22,150 --> 04:27:22,982 calming enforcement etc.. 8246 04:27:22,982 --> 04:27:27,182 I had a chance to tour Gov 8247 04:27:28,821 --> 04:27:29,522 Drive with a number of 8248 04:27:29,522 --> 04:27:30,122 residents from the University 8249 04:27:30,122 --> 04:27:30,823 Committee planning group 8250 04:27:30,823 --> 04:27:33,823 recently looking at a quarter 8251 04:27:34,394 --> 04:27:34,794 with a number of schools that 8252 04:27:34,794 --> 04:27:35,495 are on it. 8253 04:27:35,495 --> 04:27:38,495 It's the governor drive itself 8254 04:27:40,833 --> 04:27:41,601 is not necessarily considered a 8255 04:27:41,601 --> 04:27:42,335 school zone but what we see is 8256 04:27:42,335 --> 04:27:43,360 that it is adjacent to multiple 8257 04:27:43,360 --> 04:27:46,360 school zones and that's where 8258 04:27:46,372 --> 04:27:46,773 some of the heaviest speeding 8259 04:27:46,773 --> 04:27:47,540 takes place. 8260 04:27:47,540 --> 04:27:51,140 And I still remember a stretch 8261 04:27:52,846 --> 04:27:53,546 between Regents and Genesee 8262 04:27:53,546 --> 04:27:57,146 where there is a flashing sign 8263 04:27:59,850 --> 04:27:59,819 already that notifies you when 8264 04:27:59,819 --> 04:28:00,553 you're speeding on that street. 8265 04:28:00,553 --> 04:28:01,354 And so it's a very good example 8266 04:28:01,354 --> 04:28:04,954 from residents who say well you 8267 04:28:05,240 --> 04:28:05,625 could change that limit down 8268 04:28:05,625 --> 04:28:06,158 doesn't stop people from 8269 04:28:06,158 --> 04:28:06,559 actually speeding on 8270 04:28:06,559 --> 04:28:08,559 the street. 8271 04:28:10,563 --> 04:28:11,297 So I think having a targeted 8272 04:28:11,297 --> 04:28:11,997 sense of what the priorities 8273 04:28:11,997 --> 04:28:12,732 will be in terms of available 8274 04:28:12,732 --> 04:28:15,732 funding and capacity tying that 8275 04:28:16,536 --> 04:28:17,202 to some of our most dangerous 8276 04:28:17,202 --> 04:28:17,904 intersections corridors and 8277 04:28:17,904 --> 04:28:20,304 again prioritizing for schools 8278 04:28:23,430 --> 04:28:23,709 or adjacency to schools I would 8279 04:28:23,709 --> 04:28:24,377 hope gives us at least some 8280 04:28:24,377 --> 04:28:24,944 sense of where we can start 8281 04:28:24,944 --> 04:28:26,944 given whatever funding 8282 04:28:29,148 --> 04:28:29,849 ultimately gets allocated and 8283 04:28:29,849 --> 04:28:30,150 then hopefully we can go from 8284 04:28:30,150 --> 04:28:30,583 there. 8285 04:28:30,583 --> 04:28:32,583 So thank you. 8286 04:28:35,955 --> 04:28:36,268 Otherwise I'll be supporting 8287 04:28:36,268 --> 04:28:36,623 them. 8288 04:28:36,623 --> 04:28:36,990 All right. 8289 04:28:36,990 --> 04:28:37,690 Thank you. 8290 04:28:37,690 --> 04:28:38,424 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee 8291 04:28:38,424 --> 04:28:40,694 We'll go next to council member 8292 04:28:40,694 --> 04:28:41,427 Foster Oh yes. 8293 04:28:41,427 --> 04:28:44,427 Thank you Council PRESIDENT And 8294 04:28:46,933 --> 04:28:47,241 thank you for the presentation 8295 04:28:47,241 --> 04:28:47,967 . 8296 04:28:47,967 --> 04:28:48,768 I just really wanted to you 8297 04:28:48,768 --> 04:28:52,368 know, when we heard this I 8298 04:28:52,905 --> 04:28:53,606 didn't previously brought up 8299 04:28:53,606 --> 04:28:54,307 safe routes to school And i 8300 04:28:54,307 --> 04:28:57,907 just want to thank the mayor's 8301 04:28:59,412 --> 04:29:00,247 office, Randi and the staff. 8302 04:29:00,247 --> 04:29:00,947 We had a very what I thought 8303 04:29:00,947 --> 04:29:03,947 was a very productive meeting 8304 04:29:04,618 --> 04:29:05,318 was in a unified school 8305 04:29:05,318 --> 04:29:06,520 district immediately following 8306 04:29:06,520 --> 04:29:06,786 them I want to say it felt like 8307 04:29:06,786 --> 04:29:10,386 it was within days within a 8308 04:29:10,657 --> 04:29:11,291 week and being able to pull 8309 04:29:11,291 --> 04:29:11,825 everyone together to start 8310 04:29:11,825 --> 04:29:12,559 those conversations. 8311 04:29:12,559 --> 04:29:16,496 I just really want to thank you 8312 04:29:16,496 --> 04:29:17,297 for that means a lot to me as 8313 04:29:17,297 --> 04:29:20,297 we are really trying to 8314 04:29:21,735 --> 04:29:22,669 increase safety. 8315 04:29:22,669 --> 04:29:23,236 So thank you for that and that 8316 04:29:23,236 --> 04:29:23,603 concludes my comments. 8317 04:29:23,603 --> 04:29:23,970 All right. 8318 04:29:23,970 --> 04:29:25,970 Thank you. 8319 04:29:28,642 --> 04:29:29,309 Council member Foster Not see 8320 04:29:29,309 --> 04:29:29,909 anybody else on the lights. 8321 04:29:29,909 --> 04:29:32,909 I'll have a few closing 8322 04:29:34,810 --> 04:29:34,748 comments myself to my 8323 04:29:34,748 --> 04:29:35,482 colleagues and thanking all 8324 04:29:35,482 --> 04:29:35,982 the staff at Transportation for 8325 04:29:35,982 --> 04:29:38,382 the work on this. 8326 04:29:40,554 --> 04:29:41,254 This was a pretty significant 8327 04:29:41,254 --> 04:29:41,955 lift in bringing this forward 8328 04:29:41,955 --> 04:29:42,589 and I appreciate the time and 8329 04:29:42,589 --> 04:29:45,589 effort that went into it. 8330 04:29:45,992 --> 04:29:46,693 I appreciate you in 8331 04:29:46,693 --> 04:29:47,360 the commercial districts first 8332 04:29:47,360 --> 04:29:48,280 kind of get the ball rolling 8333 04:29:48,280 --> 04:29:48,729 and then came in to do this 8334 04:29:48,729 --> 04:29:51,729 heavier lift on the remaining 8335 04:29:52,650 --> 04:29:52,899 streets. 8336 04:29:52,899 --> 04:29:53,533 As my colleagues have said, our 8337 04:29:53,533 --> 04:29:54,268 communities are hurting in 8338 04:29:54,268 --> 04:29:57,268 the wake of traffic fatalities. 8339 04:29:57,370 --> 04:29:58,710 We've had three and just in 8340 04:29:58,710 --> 04:30:01,710 2026 alone, you know, how do 8341 04:30:03,760 --> 04:30:03,643 you explain that to the family 8342 04:30:03,643 --> 04:30:04,344 and to the community? 8343 04:30:04,344 --> 04:30:05,144 One of them the first one we 8344 04:30:05,144 --> 04:30:08,144 actually seem to understand how 8345 04:30:09,160 --> 04:30:09,282 it happened as horrific as it 8346 04:30:09,282 --> 04:30:10,160 was. 8347 04:30:10,160 --> 04:30:10,683 The other two I think are still 8348 04:30:10,683 --> 04:30:13,830 being investigated and we'll 8349 04:30:15,188 --> 04:30:15,889 learn more about that. 8350 04:30:15,889 --> 04:30:16,556 And over the years we've made 8351 04:30:16,556 --> 04:30:17,223 progress towards our vision 8352 04:30:17,223 --> 04:30:20,590 zero goal goals but we know 8353 04:30:20,590 --> 04:30:20,827 there's still a lot more work 8354 04:30:20,827 --> 04:30:21,462 to be done to ensure our 8355 04:30:21,462 --> 04:30:21,829 streets are truly safe for 8356 04:30:21,829 --> 04:30:23,829 everyone. 8357 04:30:25,131 --> 04:30:25,833 Any effort that supports our 8358 04:30:25,833 --> 04:30:26,533 vision zero goals moves us in 8359 04:30:26,533 --> 04:30:27,167 the right direction especially 8360 04:30:27,167 --> 04:30:30,167 given that speed remains a 8361 04:30:31,504 --> 04:30:32,172 leading factor in both fatal 8362 04:30:32,172 --> 04:30:32,873 and serious injury crashes. 8363 04:30:32,873 --> 04:30:33,574 That said, as I think you 8364 04:30:33,574 --> 04:30:36,574 pointed out as my colleagues 8365 04:30:37,344 --> 04:30:37,978 are pointing out, lowering 8366 04:30:37,978 --> 04:30:38,645 speed limits alone is not 8367 04:30:38,645 --> 04:30:41,645 enough to create truly safe 8368 04:30:43,149 --> 04:30:44,170 streets or corridors. 8369 04:30:44,170 --> 04:30:44,718 But these speeds must be paired 8370 04:30:44,718 --> 04:30:45,352 with safety improvements such 8371 04:30:45,352 --> 04:30:47,352 as roundabouts, pedestrian 8372 04:30:49,289 --> 04:30:49,856 refuge islands leading 8373 04:30:49,856 --> 04:30:50,490 pedestrian intervals, 8374 04:30:50,490 --> 04:30:51,224 rectangular rapid flashing 8375 04:30:51,224 --> 04:30:54,224 beacons, hawk systems and more. 8376 04:30:55,228 --> 04:30:55,963 And that's why I appreciate 8377 04:30:55,963 --> 04:30:56,663 the speed management plan takes 8378 04:30:56,663 --> 04:30:57,364 a more comprehensive approach 8379 04:30:57,364 --> 04:30:59,764 by recommending street safety 8380 04:31:02,200 --> 04:31:02,736 improvements along side lower 8381 04:31:02,736 --> 04:31:03,370 speed segments, particularly at 8382 04:31:03,370 --> 04:31:05,370 key safety intersections. 8383 04:31:06,973 --> 04:31:07,641 I also want to recognize your 8384 04:31:07,641 --> 04:31:08,341 willingness to embrace quick 8385 04:31:08,341 --> 04:31:09,900 build projects which allow us 8386 04:31:09,900 --> 04:31:11,409 to make safety improvements 8387 04:31:13,847 --> 04:31:14,448 more efficiently, respond to 8388 04:31:14,448 --> 04:31:15,115 community needs quicker. 8389 04:31:15,115 --> 04:31:18,715 So I look forward to seeing 8390 04:31:19,286 --> 04:31:20,200 this plan come to life. 8391 04:31:20,200 --> 04:31:20,721 Just a couple of comments, a 8392 04:31:20,721 --> 04:31:21,155 couple of which I mentioned at 8393 04:31:21,155 --> 04:31:23,155 the briefing. 8394 04:31:25,659 --> 04:31:26,327 You know there was a lot of 8395 04:31:26,327 --> 04:31:27,600 agony in the public when we 8396 04:31:27,600 --> 04:31:30,600 instituted the day lighting but 8397 04:31:30,999 --> 04:31:31,532 we didn't actually paint 8398 04:31:31,532 --> 04:31:32,132 the curbs around But 8399 04:31:32,132 --> 04:31:32,766 enforcement started when 8400 04:31:32,766 --> 04:31:33,467 the curve was painted red 8401 04:31:33,467 --> 04:31:36,467 because that's what the state 8402 04:31:36,704 --> 04:31:37,304 law said. 8403 04:31:37,304 --> 04:31:37,638 What about reduced speed 8404 04:31:37,638 --> 04:31:38,338 limits? 8405 04:31:38,338 --> 04:31:41,938 Will they be enforced if we 8406 04:31:42,876 --> 04:31:43,610 take action today or with 8407 04:31:43,610 --> 04:31:44,178 the enforcement start only when 8408 04:31:44,178 --> 04:31:47,178 the new signs went up? 8409 04:31:49,350 --> 04:31:50,840 Council PRESIDENT 8410 04:31:50,840 --> 04:31:50,584 The enforcement will start when 8411 04:31:50,584 --> 04:31:50,984 these signs go up. 8412 04:31:50,984 --> 04:31:51,685 Okay great. 8413 04:31:51,685 --> 04:31:52,860 Thank you for stating that on 8414 04:31:52,860 --> 04:31:54,860 the record. 8415 04:31:55,323 --> 04:31:55,990 One of the public haulers 8416 04:31:55,990 --> 04:31:56,590 called in something that we 8417 04:31:56,590 --> 04:31:57,224 didn't really check into 8418 04:31:57,224 --> 04:31:59,624 because it's not entirely 8419 04:32:00,861 --> 04:32:01,562 within our district and that is 8420 04:32:01,562 --> 04:32:04,765 East Mission Bay Drive which I 8421 04:32:04,765 --> 04:32:05,466 believe is currently signed for 8422 04:32:05,466 --> 04:32:06,100 30 miles an hour and perhaps 8423 04:32:06,100 --> 04:32:09,100 Mission Bay Drive as well. 8424 04:32:11,906 --> 04:32:12,539 That's a very active street. 8425 04:32:12,539 --> 04:32:15,539 It has SROs bicycle use. 8426 04:32:17,511 --> 04:32:18,246 It's also a pretty narrow 8427 04:32:18,246 --> 04:32:18,912 street especially when you have 8428 04:32:18,912 --> 04:32:19,647 roads parked on both sides. 8429 04:32:19,647 --> 04:32:23,818 Given what the plan is in front 8430 04:32:23,818 --> 04:32:24,452 of us today, how do we get a 8431 04:32:24,452 --> 04:32:26,452 consideration of reducing 8432 04:32:26,988 --> 04:32:27,755 the speed limit on East Mason 8433 04:32:27,755 --> 04:32:31,355 and Bay Drive or just even 8434 04:32:33,894 --> 04:32:34,662 Mission Bay Drive? 8435 04:32:34,662 --> 04:32:37,620 >> Council PRESIDENT We can 8436 04:32:39,733 --> 04:32:40,301 still take we can still do 8437 04:32:40,301 --> 04:32:40,935 evaluations as long as 8438 04:32:40,935 --> 04:32:42,935 constituents submit those 8439 04:32:46,707 --> 04:32:47,374 requests for traffic calming we 8440 04:32:47,374 --> 04:32:48,410 could certainly look into to 8441 04:32:48,410 --> 04:32:51,410 see whether hb 43 will also 8442 04:32:51,312 --> 04:32:51,678 apply for that street or that 8443 04:32:51,678 --> 04:32:52,313 corridor. 8444 04:32:52,313 --> 04:32:53,800 So those are still being 8445 04:32:53,800 --> 04:32:56,800 submitted and we do evaluate 8446 04:32:57,985 --> 04:32:58,719 every 7 to 14 years for all 8447 04:32:58,719 --> 04:32:59,354 these streets and that could be 8448 04:32:59,354 --> 04:33:02,354 considered as part of that 8449 04:33:03,791 --> 04:33:04,191 analysis as well. 8450 04:33:04,191 --> 04:33:05,260 Okay. 8451 04:33:05,260 --> 04:33:05,459 That is what might be me but 8452 04:33:05,459 --> 04:33:07,459 I'll go ahead. 8453 04:33:10,197 --> 04:33:10,865 Also occurs to me that a lot of 8454 04:33:10,865 --> 04:33:11,565 that street also has reverse 8455 04:33:11,565 --> 04:33:14,565 parking stalls which you know, 8456 04:33:15,269 --> 04:33:16,360 has its own factor. 8457 04:33:16,360 --> 04:33:17,400 The last thing I'll ask about 8458 04:33:17,400 --> 04:33:21,204 is when I get most recent town 8459 04:33:21,809 --> 04:33:22,509 hall some folks alerted me that 8460 04:33:22,509 --> 04:33:23,770 there is a pilot program in 8461 04:33:23,770 --> 04:33:23,477 the state about speed 8462 04:33:23,477 --> 04:33:25,477 enforcement. 8463 04:33:26,947 --> 04:33:27,615 Maybe this was the governor's 8464 04:33:27,615 --> 04:33:30,615 idea that they measure speed 8465 04:33:32,620 --> 04:33:33,287 enforcement And if you go back 8466 04:33:33,287 --> 04:33:33,988 eight miles per hour over 8467 04:33:33,988 --> 04:33:34,455 the speed limit you just get a 8468 04:33:34,455 --> 04:33:36,455 ticket flat out. 8469 04:33:39,270 --> 04:33:39,894 You know it's not a ticket. 8470 04:33:39,894 --> 04:33:40,295 It's a right to go that fast on 8471 04:33:40,295 --> 04:33:41,196 that street. 8472 04:33:41,196 --> 04:33:45,396 Very clever use of terms as a 8473 04:33:46,501 --> 04:33:47,134 city Looking back on I maybe 8474 04:33:47,134 --> 04:33:47,835 that's a better question. 8475 04:33:47,835 --> 04:33:50,838 We are aware of the state law. 8476 04:33:50,838 --> 04:33:51,539 We have explored it with cpd 8477 04:33:51,539 --> 04:33:52,730 Education Department utilizing 8478 04:33:52,730 --> 04:33:52,707 some of our existing 8479 04:33:52,707 --> 04:33:54,707 technologies like Alpers. 8480 04:33:56,444 --> 04:33:57,111 However, our use policy around 8481 04:33:57,111 --> 04:33:57,812 Alpers prohibits it for only 8482 04:33:57,812 --> 04:33:58,513 for traffic enforcement And so 8483 04:33:58,513 --> 04:34:01,513 you would essentially have to 8484 04:34:03,184 --> 04:34:03,885 explore a different type of 8485 04:34:03,885 --> 04:34:04,619 technology And right now we're 8486 04:34:04,619 --> 04:34:05,186 just not in a position fiscally 8487 04:34:05,186 --> 04:34:05,486 to be able to do that. 8488 04:34:05,486 --> 04:34:07,486 Okay. 8489 04:34:09,457 --> 04:34:10,910 The state didn't bring any 8490 04:34:10,910 --> 04:34:10,658 money in with that new law 8491 04:34:10,658 --> 04:34:11,250 Unfortunately not as I 8492 04:34:11,250 --> 04:34:13,250 suspected. 8493 04:34:14,729 --> 04:34:15,129 But I'm glad. 8494 04:34:15,129 --> 04:34:15,796 Thank you. 8495 04:34:15,796 --> 04:34:16,264 At least we know that you 8496 04:34:16,264 --> 04:34:18,264 looked into it. 8497 04:34:20,100 --> 04:34:20,302 We'll see how future budgets go 8498 04:34:20,302 --> 04:34:21,200 . 8499 04:34:21,200 --> 04:34:21,335 I'll be supporting the motion 8500 04:34:21,335 --> 04:34:22,370 as well. 8501 04:34:22,370 --> 04:34:25,637 Again, thank you all for your 8502 04:34:27,242 --> 04:34:28,900 very, very good work on this. 8503 04:34:28,900 --> 04:34:28,610 So we have a motion by 8504 04:34:28,610 --> 04:34:29,277 Councilmember Whipper in 8505 04:34:29,277 --> 04:34:29,878 the second by council member 8506 04:34:29,878 --> 04:34:32,878 come to you Please call 8507 04:34:37,986 --> 04:34:38,719 the roll Please cast your vote 8508 04:34:38,719 --> 04:34:39,421 And that passes unanimously 8 8509 04:34:39,421 --> 04:34:39,754 to 0 with Councilmember Moreno 8510 04:34:39,754 --> 04:34:40,121 absent. 8511 04:34:40,121 --> 04:34:42,121 Thank you. 8512 04:34:44,659 --> 04:34:45,159 Council PRESIDENT. 8513 04:34:45,159 --> 04:34:45,527 All right. 8514 04:34:45,527 --> 04:34:46,970 Thank you. 8515 04:34:46,970 --> 04:34:46,661 Thanks for coming out. 8516 04:34:46,661 --> 04:34:47,328 Thank you everybody in 8517 04:34:47,328 --> 04:34:49,328 transportation for bringing 8518 04:34:49,864 --> 04:34:50,532 this item forward and to 8519 04:34:50,532 --> 04:34:51,266 the mayor's office as well. 8520 04:34:51,266 --> 04:34:52,660 With that we're not quite done. 8521 04:34:52,660 --> 04:34:55,666 We'll take up non agenda public 8522 04:34:56,504 --> 04:34:57,171 comment. 8523 04:34:57,171 --> 04:34:57,872 Council members respect and 8524 04:34:57,872 --> 04:34:58,506 appreciate the public's input 8525 04:34:58,506 --> 04:34:59,207 and are fully committed to 8526 04:34:59,207 --> 04:35:01,207 protecting every participant's 8527 04:35:02,811 --> 04:35:03,411 free speech rights at council 8528 04:35:03,411 --> 04:35:04,450 and committee meetings. 8529 04:35:04,450 --> 04:35:04,513 Clerk Please proceed with 8530 04:35:04,513 --> 04:35:04,879 public comment. 8531 04:35:04,879 --> 04:35:06,879 Thank you. 8532 04:35:08,383 --> 04:35:08,983 Council PRESIDENT Proposal 2.7 8533 04:35:08,983 --> 04:35:09,617 on public comment is an 8534 04:35:09,617 --> 04:35:10,318 opportunity for members of 8535 04:35:10,318 --> 04:35:13,821 the public to comment on items 8536 04:35:13,821 --> 04:35:14,455 that are not on the agenda but 8537 04:35:14,455 --> 04:35:15,560 within the subject matter 8538 04:35:15,560 --> 04:35:15,390 jurisdiction of the City 8539 04:35:15,390 --> 04:35:16,240 Council. 8540 04:35:16,240 --> 04:35:16,357 Each speaker will have two 8541 04:35:16,357 --> 04:35:18,357 minutes. 8542 04:35:19,294 --> 04:35:19,994 Please note if there are eight 8543 04:35:19,994 --> 04:35:20,628 or more speakers on a single 8544 04:35:20,628 --> 04:35:21,329 topic the maximum time for 8545 04:35:21,329 --> 04:35:24,329 the topic will be 60 Minutes. 8546 04:35:26,701 --> 04:35:27,402 If you're in chambers please 8547 04:35:27,402 --> 04:35:28,102 email your speakers up now and 8548 04:35:28,102 --> 04:35:28,837 if you're joining us virtually 8549 04:35:28,837 --> 04:35:29,504 please is your hand to speak by 8550 04:35:29,504 --> 04:35:31,373 tapping the raise your hand 8551 04:35:31,373 --> 04:35:31,940 icon or if you're calling 8552 04:35:31,940 --> 04:35:32,641 participant Star nine. 8553 04:35:32,641 --> 04:35:33,308 Scott Chipman, are you there? 8554 04:35:33,308 --> 04:35:36,308 I don't see Scott Chipman 8555 04:35:37,545 --> 04:35:38,246 Kathleen Lippert I don't see 8556 04:35:38,246 --> 04:35:38,646 you're here in chambers where 8557 04:35:38,646 --> 04:35:40,646 we come in. 8558 04:35:43,284 --> 04:35:44,252 If you can please come forward 8559 04:35:44,252 --> 04:35:44,920 And I'm sorry we do have a new 8560 04:35:44,920 --> 04:35:47,920 speaker So Anthony rooms for 8561 04:35:49,391 --> 04:35:50,910 the roles of councils If you 8562 04:35:50,910 --> 04:35:50,759 have not spoken before you're 8563 04:35:50,759 --> 04:35:51,460 supposed to be going first. 8564 04:35:51,460 --> 04:35:52,160 So we're going to take a seat 8565 04:35:52,160 --> 04:35:55,160 and Anthony Ross, please come 8566 04:35:58,330 --> 04:35:58,633 forward. 8567 04:35:58,633 --> 04:35:59,101 You'll have two minutes. 8568 04:35:59,101 --> 04:35:59,467 Please proceed. 8569 04:35:59,467 --> 04:35:59,901 Thank you. 8570 04:35:59,901 --> 04:36:00,302 How you doing? 8571 04:36:00,302 --> 04:36:02,302 The council. 8572 04:36:04,339 --> 04:36:05,600 I wanted to start by asking 8573 04:36:05,600 --> 04:36:05,606 Council member Rebel you to 8574 04:36:05,606 --> 04:36:08,600 please show us your 8575 04:36:09,877 --> 04:36:10,612 constituents and the people of 8576 04:36:10,612 --> 04:36:11,313 San Diego more respect by being 8577 04:36:11,313 --> 04:36:11,913 more present when you're here 8578 04:36:11,913 --> 04:36:14,313 in the council chambers. 8579 04:36:16,150 --> 04:36:16,751 I've noticed at least three 8580 04:36:16,751 --> 04:36:17,419 times that I've come on 8581 04:36:17,419 --> 04:36:18,860 occasion this year that you 8582 04:36:18,860 --> 04:36:21,860 haven't been present And one 8583 04:36:21,589 --> 04:36:22,324 time you were on a Zoom meeting 8584 04:36:22,324 --> 04:36:22,991 and there's nothing wrong with 8585 04:36:22,991 --> 04:36:23,691 being on a Zoom meeting but 8586 04:36:23,691 --> 04:36:24,459 when you are here I would ask 8587 04:36:24,459 --> 04:36:27,900 that you please be present in 8588 04:36:27,900 --> 04:36:28,630 the council chambers especially 8589 04:36:28,630 --> 04:36:29,331 considering that I've read that 8590 04:36:29,331 --> 04:36:29,698 you are interested in running 8591 04:36:29,698 --> 04:36:31,698 for mayor. 8592 04:36:33,469 --> 04:36:34,350 So if that is the case that 8593 04:36:34,350 --> 04:36:34,736 will require even more 8594 04:36:34,736 --> 04:36:37,136 responsibility And therefore I 8595 04:36:39,700 --> 04:36:39,707 would ask that you again do 8596 04:36:39,707 --> 04:36:40,408 what your constituent Bob has 8597 04:36:40,408 --> 04:36:40,842 asked and show us in the city 8598 04:36:40,842 --> 04:36:42,842 more respect. 8599 04:36:45,380 --> 04:36:46,148 With that said, I want to move 8600 04:36:46,148 --> 04:36:50,348 on to why I was here today 8601 04:36:51,253 --> 04:36:51,886 which is to talk about security 8602 04:36:51,886 --> 04:36:52,220 cameras, lpr license plate 8603 04:36:52,220 --> 04:36:52,821 readers. 8604 04:36:52,821 --> 04:36:55,221 I particularly wanted to 8605 04:36:57,925 --> 04:36:58,627 address when I was here to 8606 04:36:58,627 --> 04:36:59,361 mention last week I'm not sure 8607 04:36:59,361 --> 04:37:00,610 if you all have had a chance to 8608 04:37:00,610 --> 04:37:03,610 follow up on Operation Road 8609 04:37:03,431 --> 04:37:04,650 Clear which is the report which 8610 04:37:04,650 --> 04:37:07,650 was unveiled at the court 8611 04:37:09,171 --> 04:37:09,938 hearing of my friend Jean Wong 8612 04:37:09,938 --> 04:37:13,538 last week And during that trial 8613 04:37:14,576 --> 04:37:15,210 it was revealed that the dea 8614 04:37:15,210 --> 04:37:15,711 the Department of Homeland 8615 04:37:15,711 --> 04:37:16,344 Investigations and 8616 04:37:16,344 --> 04:37:17,120 the Department of Homeland 8617 04:37:17,120 --> 04:37:20,612 Security as well as ice have 8618 04:37:20,949 --> 04:37:21,683 all colluded to utilize flex 8619 04:37:21,683 --> 04:37:22,317 surveillance technology which I 8620 04:37:22,317 --> 04:37:25,317 was in this council three 8621 04:37:26,121 --> 04:37:26,822 months ago And I heard that 8622 04:37:26,822 --> 04:37:27,423 the police chief I heard him 8623 04:37:27,423 --> 04:37:28,123 make the promise to this 8624 04:37:28,123 --> 04:37:31,723 council that Floc would not be 8625 04:37:32,260 --> 04:37:32,928 utilized to collaborate with 8626 04:37:32,928 --> 04:37:33,628 any of those departments 8627 04:37:33,628 --> 04:37:34,296 outside of cpd and within four 8628 04:37:34,296 --> 04:37:36,696 months time they've already 8629 04:37:37,899 --> 04:37:38,767 broken that promise. 8630 04:37:38,767 --> 04:37:39,468 So I'm asking you all to please 8631 04:37:39,468 --> 04:37:41,868 reconsider Floc technology if 8632 04:37:43,338 --> 04:37:44,600 it was a different company that 8633 04:37:44,600 --> 04:37:46,406 wasn't funded by billionaire 8634 04:37:51,179 --> 04:37:51,847 founder or Deal then I probably 8635 04:37:51,847 --> 04:37:52,248 wouldn't be here having this 8636 04:37:52,248 --> 04:37:52,948 discussion. 8637 04:37:52,948 --> 04:37:56,218 But the fact that it came from 8638 04:37:56,218 --> 04:37:56,919 him means that it is not 8639 04:37:56,919 --> 04:37:57,319 created by somebody with good 8640 04:37:57,319 --> 04:37:57,986 intentions. 8641 04:37:57,986 --> 04:38:00,386 There are other alternative 8642 04:38:02,424 --> 04:38:02,958 aopa all hail hail pr providers 8643 04:38:02,958 --> 04:38:03,492 Please explore them. 8644 04:38:03,492 --> 04:38:05,892 Thank you for that. 8645 04:38:07,463 --> 04:38:08,164 Concluding comment. 8646 04:38:08,164 --> 04:38:08,964 >> Next is Blair Beekman. 8647 04:38:08,964 --> 04:38:12,564 After that will be Bob because 8648 04:38:12,835 --> 04:38:13,135 this came. 8649 04:38:13,135 --> 04:38:13,535 Right. 8650 04:38:13,535 --> 04:38:15,535 Thank you. 8651 04:38:19,842 --> 04:38:20,544 Let me thank you for allowing 8652 04:38:20,544 --> 04:38:20,910 the previous public speaker to 8653 04:38:20,910 --> 04:38:21,543 go first. 8654 04:38:21,543 --> 04:38:24,543 He's a better speaker than 8655 04:38:25,181 --> 04:38:25,981 myself And it's it's a good 8656 04:38:25,981 --> 04:38:26,582 tone to talk about things I can 8657 04:38:26,582 --> 04:38:27,490 better add to this way. 8658 04:38:27,490 --> 04:38:29,490 Thank you. 8659 04:38:30,152 --> 04:38:30,452 Thanks for the meeting today. 8660 04:38:30,452 --> 04:38:32,452 Yeah. 8661 04:38:34,423 --> 04:38:35,157 From his words there are two 8662 04:38:35,157 --> 04:38:37,557 state Democrat Democratic Party 8663 04:38:40,290 --> 04:38:40,729 leaders who have they will not 8664 04:38:40,729 --> 04:38:44,329 be taking money from Clark for 8665 04:38:45,301 --> 04:38:45,735 their campaign endorsements 8666 04:38:45,735 --> 04:38:46,769 this year. 8667 04:38:46,769 --> 04:38:51,206 It was it was offered at a time 8668 04:38:51,206 --> 04:38:51,974 when we are talking about how 8669 04:38:51,974 --> 04:38:56,174 do we deal with our lives in 8670 04:38:57,179 --> 04:38:57,813 this new situation of war and 8671 04:38:57,813 --> 04:38:58,280 these two California state 8672 04:38:58,280 --> 04:39:00,280 representatives. 8673 04:39:02,418 --> 04:39:03,850 I can't you know, very possibly 8674 04:39:03,850 --> 04:39:03,552 Democratic Party leaders at 8675 04:39:03,552 --> 04:39:05,552 the state level. 8676 04:39:08,324 --> 04:39:08,724 They've made the public 8677 04:39:08,724 --> 04:39:09,325 decision. 8678 04:39:09,325 --> 04:39:10,250 They don't have the need 8679 04:39:10,250 --> 04:39:10,759 the money from block to go on 8680 04:39:10,759 --> 04:39:13,759 with their campaigns was I 8681 04:39:14,970 --> 04:39:14,763 think very much signals. 8682 04:39:14,763 --> 04:39:15,497 What I've been trying to 8683 04:39:15,497 --> 04:39:19,697 suggest here is how do we talk 8684 04:39:19,869 --> 04:39:20,236 to each other about our best 8685 04:39:20,236 --> 04:39:20,836 practices? 8686 04:39:20,836 --> 04:39:21,537 We don't have to involve 8687 04:39:21,537 --> 04:39:25,137 ourselves in war to do that. 8688 04:39:26,409 --> 04:39:27,430 Councilperson Brian Wolpert 8689 04:39:27,430 --> 04:39:27,643 offered great questions to 8690 04:39:27,643 --> 04:39:30,430 the police chief today. 8691 04:39:31,647 --> 04:39:32,381 I felt I just really needed 8692 04:39:32,381 --> 04:39:34,781 decent, well reasoned questions 8693 04:39:37,887 --> 04:39:38,621 and if those are the terms we 8694 04:39:38,621 --> 04:39:39,221 work here at the public comment 8695 04:39:39,221 --> 04:39:42,221 are in our city council 8696 04:39:42,959 --> 04:39:43,626 meetings that's that's our good 8697 04:39:43,626 --> 04:39:44,260 stuff That's that's building 8698 04:39:44,260 --> 04:39:46,660 you know, better visioning 8699 04:39:48,598 --> 04:39:48,998 sustainability and peace and 8700 04:39:48,998 --> 04:39:49,765 not war. 8701 04:39:49,765 --> 04:39:53,365 When you see those war things 8702 04:39:54,570 --> 04:39:55,271 come up we have to be wary of 8703 04:39:55,271 --> 04:39:55,939 this time and good steps we're 8704 04:39:55,939 --> 04:39:56,472 taking here to do what I can 8705 04:39:56,472 --> 04:39:59,472 see we can be doing. 8706 04:40:00,760 --> 04:40:02,760 Thank you immensely. 8707 04:40:05,448 --> 04:40:06,416 Yeah I just have so much more 8708 04:40:06,416 --> 04:40:07,830 to say that I have not seen And 8709 04:40:07,830 --> 04:40:10,830 I've got nine seconds left. 8710 04:40:12,922 --> 04:40:13,689 Good luck. 8711 04:40:13,689 --> 04:40:14,424 Vision Zero is a community 8712 04:40:14,424 --> 04:40:18,294 effort are good ideas can be a 8713 04:40:18,294 --> 04:40:19,950 for community up better Thank 8714 04:40:19,950 --> 04:40:22,695 you thank you Bob please keep 8715 04:40:32,909 --> 04:40:33,509 please play my video for Bob 8716 04:40:33,509 --> 04:40:34,110 because this here you're 8717 04:40:34,110 --> 04:40:36,545 watching one of the most 8718 04:40:36,545 --> 04:40:37,347 important videos from my two 8719 04:40:37,347 --> 04:40:37,847 and a half decades of city 8720 04:40:37,847 --> 04:40:38,414 council speeches. 8721 04:40:38,414 --> 04:40:41,414 This video is a mostly 8722 04:40:42,285 --> 04:40:42,952 accelerated clip from the city 8723 04:40:42,952 --> 04:40:43,319 Council meeting of DECEMBER 8724 04:40:43,319 --> 04:40:43,919 7th, 2010. 8725 04:40:43,919 --> 04:40:44,587 During that speech I was 8726 04:40:44,587 --> 04:40:46,987 describing it beautiful hang 8727 04:40:47,957 --> 04:40:48,524 gliding flight from 8728 04:40:48,524 --> 04:40:49,920 the previous weekend. 8729 04:40:49,920 --> 04:40:49,659 I went on to describe 8730 04:40:49,659 --> 04:40:50,193 the special nature of 8731 04:40:50,193 --> 04:40:52,593 the glider port and 8732 04:40:53,897 --> 04:40:54,631 the mismanagement of that site. 8733 04:40:54,631 --> 04:40:55,332 I pointed out the many problems 8734 04:40:55,332 --> 04:40:55,999 with the commercialization of 8735 04:40:55,999 --> 04:40:58,668 our parks and the settlement 8736 04:40:58,668 --> 04:40:59,302 agreement that had established 8737 04:40:59,302 --> 04:40:59,769 the Torrey Pines City Park 8738 04:40:59,769 --> 04:41:00,369 Advisory Board. 8739 04:41:00,369 --> 04:41:03,369 But this video isn't so 8740 04:41:04,730 --> 04:41:04,374 important for anything I had 8741 04:41:04,374 --> 04:41:05,700 said. 8742 04:41:05,700 --> 04:41:05,675 It's pretty much the same 8743 04:41:05,675 --> 04:41:06,208 things I've been saying for 8744 04:41:06,208 --> 04:41:08,208 nearly two decades. 8745 04:41:09,579 --> 04:41:10,279 What makes this video so 8746 04:41:10,279 --> 04:41:10,947 important is what the newly 8747 04:41:10,947 --> 04:41:12,947 elected COUNCILWOMAN Morris 8748 04:41:15,852 --> 04:41:16,486 said and how her senior 8749 04:41:16,486 --> 04:41:17,860 colleague Sherrie Lightner 8750 04:41:17,860 --> 04:41:17,787 tried to shut her down. 8751 04:41:17,787 --> 04:41:20,389 Lori Zeff had been elected to 8752 04:41:20,389 --> 04:41:20,991 the San Diego City Council 8753 04:41:20,991 --> 04:41:21,357 during the NOVEMBER 2010 8754 04:41:21,357 --> 04:41:23,357 election. 8755 04:41:23,960 --> 04:41:24,661 This video was from DECEMBER 8756 04:41:24,661 --> 04:41:25,128 7th, just about a month after 8757 04:41:25,128 --> 04:41:27,128 she was elected. 8758 04:41:28,899 --> 04:41:29,565 This would likely have been one 8759 04:41:29,565 --> 04:41:30,266 of the first times that Lori 8760 04:41:30,266 --> 04:41:30,833 Zeff had ever heard one of my 8761 04:41:30,833 --> 04:41:32,833 glider port speeches. 8762 04:41:34,137 --> 04:41:34,804 Let's listen to how innocently 8763 04:41:34,804 --> 04:41:35,471 and enthusiastically Morris 8764 04:41:35,471 --> 04:41:39,710 reacted to my speech and how 8765 04:41:40,109 --> 04:41:40,477 quickly Sherrie Lightner shut 8766 04:41:40,477 --> 04:41:41,770 her down. 8767 04:41:41,770 --> 04:41:41,711 And those are beautiful 8768 04:41:41,711 --> 04:41:42,179 pictures for that two hour 8769 04:41:42,179 --> 04:41:44,179 mayor's office. 8770 04:41:45,140 --> 04:41:48,614 And we'll find out more about 8771 04:41:50,854 --> 04:41:51,888 that David Ross and then Marc 8772 04:41:51,888 --> 04:41:55,192 Lynch shield so she won't MISS 8773 04:41:55,192 --> 04:41:56,159 Out. 8774 04:41:56,159 --> 04:41:56,826 >> I just wanted to make a 8775 04:41:56,826 --> 04:41:59,826 quick comment on the Torrey 8776 04:42:01,164 --> 04:42:01,932 Pines glider report. 8777 04:42:01,932 --> 04:42:02,231 I really have an interest in 8778 04:42:02,231 --> 04:42:02,799 that. 8779 04:42:02,799 --> 04:42:03,166 My husband has similar 8780 04:42:03,166 --> 04:42:05,166 pictures. 8781 04:42:06,303 --> 04:42:06,937 He was a hang glider pilot 8782 04:42:06,937 --> 04:42:09,937 there for many years, took 8783 04:42:10,774 --> 04:42:11,475 tours up and in 1995 I was his 8784 04:42:11,475 --> 04:42:12,242 very last passenger or as he 8785 04:42:12,242 --> 04:42:15,242 called him victims had a 8786 04:42:15,845 --> 04:42:16,513 wonderful flight up there. 8787 04:42:16,513 --> 04:42:17,481 So really this is something 8788 04:42:17,481 --> 04:42:21,681 that is an issue that I be 8789 04:42:22,850 --> 04:42:22,585 interested in. 8790 04:42:22,585 --> 04:42:23,353 >> All right. 8791 04:42:23,353 --> 04:42:24,870 Well, I think that that's great 8792 04:42:24,870 --> 04:42:27,570 because Well and also the issue 8793 04:42:27,570 --> 04:42:27,791 is well in hand and our office 8794 04:42:27,791 --> 04:42:31,600 would be delighted to talk with 8795 04:42:31,600 --> 04:42:31,528 your office about this issue. 8796 04:42:31,528 --> 04:42:33,528 >> But go. 8797 04:42:36,332 --> 04:42:36,833 All right. 8798 04:42:36,833 --> 04:42:37,668 Thank you. 8799 04:42:37,668 --> 04:42:40,668 That does not agenda public 8800 04:42:41,738 --> 04:42:42,105 comment here in council 8801 04:42:42,105 --> 04:42:42,772 chambers. 8802 04:42:42,772 --> 04:42:43,307 I've started the five minute 8803 04:42:43,307 --> 04:42:43,906 timer going to those 8804 04:42:43,906 --> 04:42:45,906 participating remotely. 8805 04:42:47,440 --> 04:42:50,644 We do have speakers that have 8806 04:42:51,381 --> 04:42:51,915 not spoken as of last week 8807 04:42:51,915 --> 04:42:53,915 starting with Harry. 8808 04:42:56,219 --> 04:42:56,686 If you can please unmute. 8809 04:42:56,686 --> 04:42:57,120 Good afternoon. 8810 04:42:57,120 --> 04:42:57,754 Good evening. 8811 04:42:57,754 --> 04:43:00,754 Since we're here already I 8812 04:43:01,525 --> 04:43:02,125 would join to say that we could 8813 04:43:02,125 --> 04:43:04,525 manage San Diego budget. 8814 04:43:06,663 --> 04:43:07,130 We do not have unsolvable 8815 04:43:07,130 --> 04:43:07,664 budget problems. 8816 04:43:07,664 --> 04:43:08,298 The problem is that 8817 04:43:08,298 --> 04:43:10,698 the government is sending 8818 04:43:13,170 --> 04:43:13,871 billions of dollars every day 8819 04:43:13,871 --> 04:43:16,974 to bomb holes, not build them. 8820 04:43:16,974 --> 04:43:17,641 We're sending billions of 8821 04:43:17,641 --> 04:43:18,410 dollars to bomb schools, not 8822 04:43:18,410 --> 04:43:18,709 build them. 8823 04:43:18,709 --> 04:43:21,709 So if our federal partners 8824 04:43:23,790 --> 04:43:23,813 would work more closely with 8825 04:43:23,813 --> 04:43:28,130 the city, we can invest our tax 8826 04:43:28,485 --> 04:43:28,886 money here to fix our roads and 8827 04:43:28,886 --> 04:43:29,586 build homes. 8828 04:43:29,586 --> 04:43:33,186 So until then it's better not 8829 04:43:33,424 --> 04:43:34,240 to have that orange here. 8830 04:43:34,240 --> 04:43:34,725 Pedro Epstein, leader on 8831 04:43:34,725 --> 04:43:38,325 the wall there in the chamber. 8832 04:43:38,362 --> 04:43:38,762 Thank you. 8833 04:43:38,762 --> 04:43:39,496 Thank you. 8834 04:43:39,496 --> 04:43:42,496 Next we have Francine Maxwell. 8835 04:43:46,303 --> 04:43:47,400 If you can please unmute 8836 04:43:47,400 --> 04:43:47,671 Francine Maxwell, Southeastern 8837 04:43:47,671 --> 04:43:51,271 San Diego resident I want to 8838 04:43:51,941 --> 04:43:52,643 thank you for the presentation 8839 04:43:52,643 --> 04:43:56,243 as it pertained to sd pd. 8840 04:43:56,780 --> 04:43:57,314 Wonderful press event this past 8841 04:43:57,314 --> 04:43:59,714 week that was shown. 8842 04:44:02,152 --> 04:44:02,786 But I'm concerned that this 8843 04:44:02,786 --> 04:44:03,120 council chooses not to dig 8844 04:44:03,120 --> 04:44:05,120 deeper. 8845 04:44:06,824 --> 04:44:07,557 You don't ask him why There's 8846 04:44:07,557 --> 04:44:08,225 only three Caucasian women that 8847 04:44:08,225 --> 04:44:11,294 are at the rank of captain. 8848 04:44:11,294 --> 04:44:11,829 You don't ask him why 8849 04:44:11,829 --> 04:44:12,495 the highest ranking 8850 04:44:12,495 --> 04:44:12,863 African-American female is a 8851 04:44:12,863 --> 04:44:14,863 detective. 8852 04:44:16,500 --> 04:44:17,267 You're not asking the question 8853 04:44:17,267 --> 04:44:21,467 to make sure that as one of 8854 04:44:22,500 --> 04:44:22,339 the safest biggest cities we're 8855 04:44:22,339 --> 04:44:23,173 diverse. 8856 04:44:23,173 --> 04:44:26,576 Although dni is not a nice word 8857 04:44:26,576 --> 04:44:27,278 to use anymore under this 8858 04:44:27,278 --> 04:44:29,678 administration, it still needs 8859 04:44:31,515 --> 04:44:32,216 to be asked what is going on 8860 04:44:32,216 --> 04:44:35,816 with the bipoc to make our 8861 04:44:37,210 --> 04:44:37,421 community to reflect the police 8862 04:44:37,421 --> 04:44:38,154 department. 8863 04:44:38,154 --> 04:44:41,154 There is not an intentionality. 8864 04:44:42,590 --> 04:44:42,559 There is no females on 8865 04:44:42,559 --> 04:44:44,559 the seventh floor. 8866 04:44:45,800 --> 04:44:46,563 If you don't get another view 8867 04:44:46,563 --> 04:44:47,640 on the seventh floor then it 8868 04:44:47,640 --> 04:44:49,640 lends to skewing. 8869 04:44:51,402 --> 04:44:51,768 Yes people again our officers 8870 04:44:51,768 --> 04:44:53,768 need more. 8871 04:44:55,806 --> 04:44:56,374 They need more wellness built 8872 04:44:56,374 --> 04:44:58,774 in So appreciative of 8873 04:45:00,378 --> 04:45:01,178 the wellness moving from a 8874 04:45:01,178 --> 04:45:01,845 floor that it was on that was 8875 04:45:01,845 --> 04:45:05,348 higher to one of the lowest 8876 04:45:05,348 --> 04:45:06,216 floors so you could slip in. 8877 04:45:06,216 --> 04:45:06,817 If you feel that you don't want 8878 04:45:06,817 --> 04:45:09,217 to be seen again. 8879 04:45:11,210 --> 04:45:11,389 Ask harder questions Bolder 8880 04:45:11,389 --> 04:45:13,389 questions. 8881 04:45:15,393 --> 04:45:16,260 We appreciate every man and 8882 04:45:16,260 --> 04:45:16,727 woman that runs to danger. 8883 04:45:16,727 --> 04:45:19,127 We appreciate the dispatchers 8884 04:45:20,264 --> 04:45:20,865 that answer the calls in 8885 04:45:20,865 --> 04:45:21,232 the midnight hour and on 8886 04:45:21,232 --> 04:45:21,899 the phone. 8887 04:45:21,899 --> 04:45:24,899 But this council you're paid 8888 04:45:25,169 --> 04:45:25,603 like judges so you can throw 8889 04:45:25,603 --> 04:45:26,337 some strikes. 8890 04:45:26,337 --> 04:45:29,337 You don't have to constantly 8891 04:45:30,410 --> 04:45:30,808 softball. 8892 04:45:30,808 --> 04:45:31,475 And those that continue to have 8893 04:45:31,475 --> 04:45:33,875 private meetings with Chief 8894 04:45:35,179 --> 04:45:35,813 Wall why is it that some of 8895 04:45:35,813 --> 04:45:36,147 that information can't be 8896 04:45:36,147 --> 04:45:36,714 shared? 8897 04:45:36,714 --> 04:45:39,114 We have local papers. 8898 04:45:39,983 --> 04:45:40,650 The voice and viewpoint, 8899 04:45:40,650 --> 04:45:43,650 the press, the Indian voices 8900 04:45:44,688 --> 04:45:45,122 use our media mandate records 8901 04:45:45,122 --> 04:45:45,790 dod one radio. 8902 04:45:45,790 --> 04:45:46,190 All of you guys got 8903 04:45:46,190 --> 04:45:48,190 newsletters. 8904 04:45:50,610 --> 04:45:50,628 More information. 8905 04:45:50,628 --> 04:45:51,298 >> More transparency. 8906 04:45:51,298 --> 04:45:52,300 Your time has concluded and 8907 04:45:52,300 --> 04:45:55,300 access Christine Wilburn if you 8908 04:45:55,320 --> 04:45:55,900 can please unmute. 8909 04:45:55,900 --> 04:45:58,300 >> Hi, this is Christine 8910 04:45:59,770 --> 04:46:00,571 Wellborn. 8911 04:46:00,571 --> 04:46:01,305 You know I watch these meetings 8912 04:46:01,305 --> 04:46:04,442 all the time and I can't think 8913 04:46:04,442 --> 04:46:08,420 of the last one where council 8914 04:46:09,246 --> 04:46:09,948 member Shawn Rivera didn't bash 8915 04:46:09,948 --> 04:46:10,715 Trump and say something nasty 8916 04:46:10,715 --> 04:46:14,315 and doesn't the city of San 8917 04:46:14,518 --> 04:46:17,518 Diego have an established code 8918 04:46:19,123 --> 04:46:19,857 of conduct or civility policies 8919 04:46:19,857 --> 04:46:20,191 ,decorum rules, professional 8920 04:46:20,191 --> 04:46:20,658 ethics? 8921 04:46:20,658 --> 04:46:22,658 It's really sad. 8922 04:46:24,295 --> 04:46:24,996 It would be nice to have a 8923 04:46:24,996 --> 04:46:27,396 nonpartisan focus rather than, 8924 04:46:28,833 --> 04:46:29,534 you know, have all this 8925 04:46:29,534 --> 04:46:29,967 divisive rhetoric and hateful 8926 04:46:29,967 --> 04:46:31,967 hateful words. 8927 04:46:33,338 --> 04:46:33,838 I don't like it when our 8928 04:46:33,838 --> 04:46:34,572 PRESIDENT Does it. 8929 04:46:34,572 --> 04:46:35,239 It makes me sick and I don't 8930 04:46:35,239 --> 04:46:35,539 like seeing it at the local 8931 04:46:35,539 --> 04:46:37,539 level. 8932 04:46:38,575 --> 04:46:39,244 And I would just really 8933 04:46:39,244 --> 04:46:39,944 appreciate it if it would be 8934 04:46:39,944 --> 04:46:42,944 tone down, you know, calling 8935 04:46:42,947 --> 04:46:43,414 people fascist pigs and 8936 04:46:43,414 --> 04:46:43,948 everything else. 8937 04:46:43,948 --> 04:46:46,348 It's just not okay. 8938 04:46:47,718 --> 04:46:48,419 So I would appreciate it if you 8939 04:46:48,419 --> 04:46:49,120 would please pay attention to 8940 04:46:49,120 --> 04:46:52,390 that and try to tone it down. 8941 04:46:52,390 --> 04:46:53,570 Thank you. 8942 04:46:53,570 --> 04:46:55,457 >> Have a nice night. 8943 04:46:57,628 --> 04:47:01,828 Our next speaker is a Zoom user 8944 04:47:02,366 --> 04:47:02,667 If you can please unmute extra 8945 04:47:02,667 --> 04:47:03,334 . 8946 04:47:03,334 --> 04:47:03,768 Thanks for taking my call. 8947 04:47:03,768 --> 04:47:04,468 Hey it's cool. 8948 04:47:04,468 --> 04:47:07,371 Haters got to hate man. 8949 04:47:07,371 --> 04:47:08,139 That's what it is. 8950 04:47:08,139 --> 04:47:09,700 We need some diversity on city 8951 04:47:09,700 --> 04:47:12,510 council like a couple of maga 8952 04:47:12,510 --> 04:47:13,278 hats. 8953 04:47:13,278 --> 04:47:14,110 That's what we really need. 8954 04:47:14,110 --> 04:47:16,881 You guys you talking diversity, 8955 04:47:16,881 --> 04:47:17,449 diversity, diversity. 8956 04:47:17,449 --> 04:47:17,882 Where's the maga? 8957 04:47:17,882 --> 04:47:18,716 Come on, man. 8958 04:47:18,716 --> 04:47:21,716 Couple of straight white boys 8959 04:47:22,530 --> 04:47:22,387 up there telling you the truth 8960 04:47:22,387 --> 04:47:23,187 anyway. 8961 04:47:23,187 --> 04:47:26,491 Hey, we know what I'm talking 8962 04:47:26,491 --> 04:47:26,925 about. 8963 04:47:26,925 --> 04:47:27,725 Ice raids. 8964 04:47:27,725 --> 04:47:31,596 When I shows up when Trump is 8965 04:47:31,596 --> 04:47:32,296 done with taking over Cuba, 8966 04:47:32,296 --> 04:47:32,864 he's doing that to the Orange 8967 04:47:32,864 --> 04:47:35,264 fans going after Cuba. 8968 04:47:37,502 --> 04:47:38,369 They're ready to surrender. 8969 04:47:38,369 --> 04:47:39,337 If you turn our attention here, 8970 04:47:39,337 --> 04:47:42,640 he's going to come out as have 8971 04:47:42,640 --> 04:47:43,508 you all investigations and 8972 04:47:43,508 --> 04:47:47,110 the ice raids And we've got to 8973 04:47:47,110 --> 04:47:47,612 have the police department 8974 04:47:47,612 --> 04:47:49,612 protect the protesters. 8975 04:47:51,949 --> 04:47:52,350 I don't want the protesters to 8976 04:47:52,350 --> 04:47:53,118 get hurt. 8977 04:47:53,118 --> 04:47:56,621 You know, that's why with ice. 8978 04:47:56,621 --> 04:47:57,288 So establish a speed limit If 8979 04:47:57,288 --> 04:48:00,288 you're responding to an ice 8980 04:48:00,425 --> 04:48:01,126 raid, you can't go over 50 8981 04:48:01,126 --> 04:48:04,726 miles an hour to get there. 8982 04:48:05,263 --> 04:48:05,730 Just for their safety And don't 8983 04:48:05,730 --> 04:48:06,330 point your car. 8984 04:48:06,330 --> 04:48:08,730 You have some training. 8985 04:48:10,468 --> 04:48:11,102 They don't point your car at an 8986 04:48:11,102 --> 04:48:11,837 ice agent and hit the gas 8987 04:48:11,837 --> 04:48:14,606 because you're going to get 8988 04:48:14,606 --> 04:48:15,440 shot. 8989 04:48:15,440 --> 04:48:15,774 And then try not to kick 8990 04:48:15,774 --> 04:48:16,608 the car. 8991 04:48:16,608 --> 04:48:20,110 Don't throw any pipe bombs like 8992 04:48:20,110 --> 04:48:23,110 those to Muslim guys did. 8993 04:48:24,816 --> 04:48:25,417 Don't make your own pipe bomb 8994 04:48:25,417 --> 04:48:26,284 and throw them around. 8995 04:48:26,284 --> 04:48:26,551 That'd be a good thing not to 8996 04:48:26,551 --> 04:48:28,551 do. 8997 04:48:29,521 --> 04:48:30,188 And then we have the Marine 8998 04:48:30,188 --> 04:48:33,188 Corps protect the ice agents 8999 04:48:33,792 --> 04:48:34,459 and then the police department 9000 04:48:34,459 --> 04:48:37,459 can respond just to protect 9001 04:48:39,300 --> 04:48:39,331 the protesters from themselves 9002 04:48:39,331 --> 04:48:40,165 . 9003 04:48:40,165 --> 04:48:40,866 And you might want to tell that 9004 04:48:40,866 --> 04:48:43,866 one girl that took over 9005 04:48:44,369 --> 04:48:45,103 the mayor's office with 9006 04:48:45,103 --> 04:48:45,404 the blue hair man, she's pretty 9007 04:48:45,404 --> 04:48:47,404 angry. 9008 04:48:49,341 --> 04:48:49,841 She even broke the law when she 9009 04:48:49,841 --> 04:48:50,541 was on probation. 9010 04:48:50,541 --> 04:48:51,430 You might want to put a check 9011 04:48:51,430 --> 04:48:53,430 on her somewhere. 9012 04:48:53,578 --> 04:48:54,246 I know you guys probably know 9013 04:48:54,246 --> 04:48:54,913 her, but she's she's getting 9014 04:48:54,913 --> 04:48:57,313 pushing the envelope there. 9015 04:48:58,917 --> 04:48:59,284 Have a good day, guys. 9016 04:48:59,284 --> 04:48:59,885 Thank you. 9017 04:48:59,885 --> 04:49:02,285 Next is Peggy Walker. 9018 04:49:03,622 --> 04:49:06,622 If you can please unmute. 9019 04:49:08,427 --> 04:49:10,427 Good evening Council. 9020 04:49:12,630 --> 04:49:13,265 Sorry In item 200 it was 9021 04:49:13,265 --> 04:49:13,865 mentioned that drugs are a 9022 04:49:13,865 --> 04:49:16,265 number one crime against 9023 04:49:16,868 --> 04:49:17,569 society in our city and in that 9024 04:49:17,569 --> 04:49:18,337 context So it's important that 9025 04:49:18,337 --> 04:49:21,540 last week it was reported that 9026 04:49:21,540 --> 04:49:23,940 more than 100 pounds of 9027 04:49:26,745 --> 04:49:27,446 suspected illegal intoxicating 9028 04:49:27,446 --> 04:49:28,113 products were seized during a 9029 04:49:28,113 --> 04:49:30,513 crackdown on unlawful drug 9030 04:49:31,983 --> 04:49:32,651 sales at four vape and smoke 9031 04:49:32,651 --> 04:49:33,180 shops in the single city of 9032 04:49:33,180 --> 04:49:35,180 Oceanside. 9033 04:49:36,755 --> 04:49:37,356 I bring this here because 9034 04:49:37,356 --> 04:49:39,356 the Oceanside operation 9035 04:49:41,293 --> 04:49:41,827 highlights the fact that 9036 04:49:41,827 --> 04:49:42,527 underscored by local 9037 04:49:42,527 --> 04:49:44,927 assessments these illegal and 9038 04:49:46,565 --> 04:49:47,299 toxic eating products are 9039 04:49:47,299 --> 04:49:50,299 increasingly sold in smoke vape 9040 04:49:51,136 --> 04:49:51,803 and convenience stores in San 9041 04:49:51,803 --> 04:49:54,803 Diego and across our region. 9042 04:49:55,673 --> 04:49:56,341 The seized items included 9043 04:49:56,341 --> 04:49:58,741 vaping devices and products 9044 04:50:00,312 --> 04:50:00,946 containing unregulated 9045 04:50:00,946 --> 04:50:03,346 substances such as Kratom, 9046 04:50:06,484 --> 04:50:07,152 psilocybin and thc. 9047 04:50:07,152 --> 04:50:07,819 According to law enforcement 9048 04:50:07,819 --> 04:50:10,819 involved in this seizure in 9049 04:50:11,423 --> 04:50:12,224 the seizure, those locations 9050 04:50:12,224 --> 04:50:12,791 police, the Sheriff's office, 9051 04:50:12,791 --> 04:50:15,191 dea and Naval Criminal 9052 04:50:16,495 --> 04:50:17,229 Investigative Service. 9053 04:50:17,229 --> 04:50:19,629 These intoxicating products are 9054 04:50:21,660 --> 04:50:21,734 often mislabeled. 9055 04:50:21,734 --> 04:50:24,734 A dea spokesman warned that 9056 04:50:24,937 --> 04:50:25,637 vaping devices popular among 9057 04:50:25,637 --> 04:50:26,338 young people pose a growing 9058 04:50:26,338 --> 04:50:28,738 public safety concern, noting 9059 04:50:30,576 --> 04:50:31,276 consumer shows often have no 9060 04:50:31,276 --> 04:50:31,610 idea what these substances MAY 9061 04:50:31,610 --> 04:50:33,610 contain. 9062 04:50:36,150 --> 04:50:36,415 These products that are 9063 04:50:36,415 --> 04:50:37,150 mislabeled. 9064 04:50:37,150 --> 04:50:39,415 Law enforcement has been 9065 04:50:40,485 --> 04:50:41,860 warning about the risk of these 9066 04:50:41,860 --> 04:50:41,720 uncontrolled mislabeled 9067 04:50:41,720 --> 04:50:44,120 products many marketed and 9068 04:50:46,191 --> 04:50:46,992 packages to pop to you And I 9069 04:50:46,992 --> 04:50:49,992 urge you to encourage similar 9070 04:50:50,763 --> 04:50:53,763 vigilance and work with law 9071 04:50:54,732 --> 04:50:55,434 enforcement to ensure that 9072 04:50:55,434 --> 04:50:56,100 unauthorized drug products are 9073 04:50:56,100 --> 04:50:56,368 not sold in our city. 9074 04:50:56,368 --> 04:50:58,368 Thank you. 9075 04:51:00,539 --> 04:51:01,173 Thank you. 9076 04:51:01,173 --> 04:51:01,840 The five minute timer has 9077 04:51:01,840 --> 04:51:02,541 concluded and no additional 9078 04:51:02,541 --> 04:51:03,208 speakers will be taken that do 9079 04:51:03,208 --> 04:51:05,511 not have their hand raised. 9080 04:51:05,511 --> 04:51:06,112 We have eight speakers and 9081 04:51:06,112 --> 04:51:06,779 again like I said, no 9082 04:51:06,779 --> 04:51:07,790 additional speakers will be 9083 04:51:07,790 --> 04:51:07,780 taken. 9084 04:51:07,780 --> 04:51:11,380 Judy Strang if you can please 9085 04:51:11,550 --> 04:51:12,418 unmute. 9086 04:51:12,418 --> 04:51:14,818 >> Good evening City Council 9087 04:51:17,220 --> 04:51:17,589 Thank you for this opportunity 9088 04:51:17,589 --> 04:51:18,290 to share my thoughts. 9089 04:51:18,290 --> 04:51:20,690 I appreciated the information 9090 04:51:21,427 --> 04:51:24,427 about the lowering of speed 9091 04:51:25,498 --> 04:51:26,265 limits and the respect for 9092 04:51:26,265 --> 04:51:26,632 human life that that seems to 9093 04:51:26,632 --> 04:51:28,632 indicate. 9094 04:51:30,736 --> 04:51:31,604 I also wanted to share with you 9095 04:51:31,604 --> 04:51:35,204 that one of our most important 9096 04:51:35,941 --> 04:51:36,575 nation wide groups regarding 9097 04:51:36,575 --> 04:51:38,975 tobacco use prevention for 9098 04:51:40,980 --> 04:51:41,714 young people called the truth 9099 04:51:41,714 --> 04:51:44,114 Initiative indicated that eight 9100 04:51:45,551 --> 04:51:46,218 of the ten films nominated for 9101 04:51:46,218 --> 04:51:46,919 Best Picture did quite a 9102 04:51:46,919 --> 04:51:49,319 depiction of cigaret and 9103 04:51:49,955 --> 04:51:50,723 nicotine products in their 9104 04:51:50,723 --> 04:51:53,723 movies indicating that it was 9105 04:51:54,994 --> 04:51:55,828 cool somehow or another. 9106 04:51:55,828 --> 04:51:59,898 This gets to be important to us 9107 04:51:59,898 --> 04:52:00,566 who work in prevention and with 9108 04:52:00,566 --> 04:52:03,566 young people because we know 9109 04:52:04,269 --> 04:52:07,269 that nicotine products used for 9110 04:52:08,400 --> 04:52:08,741 12th graders increased from 17% 9111 04:52:08,741 --> 04:52:09,175 to 22% just in the last year 9112 04:52:09,175 --> 04:52:11,175 2024, 2025. 9113 04:52:13,378 --> 04:52:14,460 The trouble with that type of 9114 04:52:14,460 --> 04:52:16,446 imagery that happened within 9115 04:52:17,850 --> 04:52:18,551 these movies is that it makes 9116 04:52:18,551 --> 04:52:19,218 it difficult for those who are 9117 04:52:19,218 --> 04:52:22,218 trying to quit to quit 9118 04:52:22,621 --> 04:52:22,922 successfully as one would 9119 04:52:22,922 --> 04:52:23,623 guess. 9120 04:52:23,623 --> 04:52:27,223 But it also suggests to our 9121 04:52:27,860 --> 04:52:28,461 young people that the adult 9122 04:52:28,461 --> 04:52:31,461 world is okay with it. 9123 04:52:31,764 --> 04:52:32,531 I just like to point out how 9124 04:52:32,531 --> 04:52:33,233 important it is what our adult 9125 04:52:33,233 --> 04:52:35,633 population signals to young 9126 04:52:37,303 --> 04:52:38,700 people has value and to look 9127 04:52:38,700 --> 04:52:41,700 carefully at decisions we make 9128 04:52:42,410 --> 04:52:42,742 regarding tobacco, marijuana 9129 04:52:42,742 --> 04:52:45,742 and alcohol use that indicates 9130 04:52:46,879 --> 04:52:47,612 to young adults that this use 9131 04:52:47,612 --> 04:52:50,612 does not have consequences when 9132 04:52:51,617 --> 04:52:52,510 we so clearly know as adults 9133 04:52:52,510 --> 04:52:52,518 that it does. 9134 04:52:52,518 --> 04:52:54,518 >> Thank you. 9135 04:52:56,356 --> 04:52:57,156 Thank you. 9136 04:52:57,156 --> 04:52:57,489 Next is the original if you can 9137 04:52:57,489 --> 04:52:59,489 please. 9138 04:53:01,227 --> 04:53:02,610 And you. 9139 04:53:02,610 --> 04:53:02,962 Yeah of course This is going to 9140 04:53:02,962 --> 04:53:05,498 come down the pike to be used 9141 04:53:05,498 --> 04:53:06,266 for enforcement. 9142 04:53:06,266 --> 04:53:06,932 It's already being used in 9143 04:53:06,932 --> 04:53:09,932 other countries and you guys 9144 04:53:10,469 --> 04:53:11,104 are in lockstep with the United 9145 04:53:11,104 --> 04:53:11,704 Nations so you're going to 9146 04:53:11,704 --> 04:53:14,104 change your policies or 9147 04:53:15,708 --> 04:53:16,410 whatever in order to be able to 9148 04:53:16,410 --> 04:53:16,776 do that. 9149 04:53:16,776 --> 04:53:19,612 It's going to even keep people 9150 04:53:19,612 --> 04:53:20,120 out of say low emission zones 9151 04:53:20,120 --> 04:53:20,683 or whatever. 9152 04:53:20,683 --> 04:53:21,447 And it's interesting to hear 9153 04:53:21,447 --> 04:53:24,447 you guys talk about public 9154 04:53:24,784 --> 04:53:25,518 safety and really wanting to 9155 04:53:25,518 --> 04:53:25,918 make sure that people don't die 9156 04:53:25,918 --> 04:53:27,918 or get hurt. 9157 04:53:29,989 --> 04:53:30,623 But then I wonder why you 9158 04:53:30,623 --> 04:53:31,357 didn't act when there were 9159 04:53:31,357 --> 04:53:34,394 times that you could have like 9160 04:53:34,394 --> 04:53:35,128 Steven Weber Why were you 9161 04:53:35,128 --> 04:53:35,928 laughing at me when I'm telling 9162 04:53:35,928 --> 04:53:38,398 you about a woman that died and 9163 04:53:38,398 --> 04:53:41,998 all the other people who have 9164 04:53:43,203 --> 04:53:43,503 died at Tent City or been raped 9165 04:53:43,503 --> 04:53:45,503 ? 9166 04:53:48,108 --> 04:53:48,908 Champa Why did you not care 9167 04:53:48,908 --> 04:53:49,608 about the little five year old 9168 04:53:49,608 --> 04:53:53,179 who was raped in her own 9169 04:53:53,179 --> 04:53:53,947 bedroom by an illegal alien? 9170 04:53:53,947 --> 04:53:54,647 I know it's because it's an 9171 04:53:54,647 --> 04:53:57,951 illegal that did it but I'm 9172 04:53:57,951 --> 04:53:58,918 just wondering would it matter 9173 04:53:58,918 --> 04:54:02,789 to you if it was your child who 9174 04:54:02,789 --> 04:54:03,556 whose bedroom had been entered 9175 04:54:03,556 --> 04:54:04,156 into and your child was raped? 9176 04:54:04,156 --> 04:54:04,523 Would it matter then? 9177 04:54:04,523 --> 04:54:06,523 Probably. 9178 04:54:07,260 --> 04:54:07,861 And then Arabella McCormick 9179 04:54:07,861 --> 04:54:08,561 it's like you guys think 9180 04:54:08,561 --> 04:54:10,961 spending $30 million makes it 9181 04:54:12,650 --> 04:54:12,766 better that she died and was 48 9182 04:54:12,766 --> 04:54:15,166 pounds and everybody neglected 9183 04:54:17,437 --> 04:54:18,204 to act on her behalf? 9184 04:54:18,204 --> 04:54:21,804 You know there's so many things 9185 04:54:22,108 --> 04:54:22,808 Then you guys support pedophile 9186 04:54:22,808 --> 04:54:23,443 like you guys are supporting 9187 04:54:23,443 --> 04:54:26,279 Scott Wiener all the time. 9188 04:54:26,279 --> 04:54:27,147 He has sex with children. 9189 04:54:27,147 --> 04:54:27,813 Then we sit here and we talk 9190 04:54:27,813 --> 04:54:28,448 about anti-Semitic stuff and 9191 04:54:28,448 --> 04:54:31,448 it's like you guys support 9192 04:54:31,651 --> 04:54:32,285 people whose Talmud or their 9193 04:54:32,285 --> 04:54:34,685 Bible talks about children 9194 04:54:35,755 --> 04:54:36,356 having sex with children and 9195 04:54:36,356 --> 04:54:37,230 then also the penises of 9196 04:54:37,230 --> 04:54:39,423 children who have been 9197 04:54:40,894 --> 04:54:41,561 circumcised. 9198 04:54:41,561 --> 04:54:42,195 Many children have died from 9199 04:54:42,195 --> 04:54:42,529 that in fact from getting 9200 04:54:42,529 --> 04:54:43,195 herpes. 9201 04:54:43,195 --> 04:54:46,195 And then you guys encourage 9202 04:54:46,799 --> 04:54:47,467 children to mutilate their 9203 04:54:47,467 --> 04:54:50,467 bodies and actually toxic by 9204 04:54:51,338 --> 04:54:51,971 their bodies with hormones that 9205 04:54:51,971 --> 04:54:52,572 should not don't belong in 9206 04:54:52,572 --> 04:54:54,972 their bodies because you 9207 04:54:56,209 --> 04:54:56,909 encourage that And then also 9208 04:54:56,909 --> 04:54:57,544 like sexualization of children 9209 04:54:57,544 --> 04:55:00,544 in school and like reading 9210 04:55:01,314 --> 04:55:01,748 books that are like 9211 04:55:01,748 --> 04:55:02,481 pornographic. 9212 04:55:02,481 --> 04:55:03,116 So I'm just wondering if you're 9213 04:55:03,116 --> 04:55:05,752 going to care about those 9214 04:55:05,752 --> 04:55:06,519 things too. 9215 04:55:06,519 --> 04:55:06,852 >> Our next speaker is Barbara 9216 04:55:06,852 --> 04:55:08,852 Gordon. 9217 04:55:10,790 --> 04:55:11,625 Good evening. 9218 04:55:11,625 --> 04:55:12,526 I am a public health advocate 9219 04:55:12,526 --> 04:55:15,829 with so many needs in this city 9220 04:55:15,829 --> 04:55:16,529 and with budget shortages I 9221 04:55:16,529 --> 04:55:18,929 respectfully request the city 9222 04:55:20,600 --> 04:55:21,200 not implement the seed program. 9223 04:55:21,200 --> 04:55:24,200 The seed program is not 9224 04:55:24,671 --> 04:55:25,372 sustainable long term without 9225 04:55:25,372 --> 04:55:25,839 impacting the already strained 9226 04:55:25,839 --> 04:55:27,839 city resources. 9227 04:55:30,477 --> 04:55:31,440 San Diego already has 38 9228 04:55:31,440 --> 04:55:33,440 marijuana businesses. 9229 04:55:34,815 --> 04:55:35,515 Why are we looking to expand 9230 04:55:35,515 --> 04:55:36,282 the number of these businesses 9231 04:55:36,282 --> 04:55:39,953 in the name of social equity as 9232 04:55:39,953 --> 04:55:40,387 the city struggles with 9233 04:55:40,387 --> 04:55:41,880 homelessness? 9234 04:55:41,880 --> 04:55:44,880 Many peer review studies show 9235 04:55:44,457 --> 04:55:45,125 that marijuana use contributes 9236 04:55:45,125 --> 04:55:48,125 to drug abuse and addiction 9237 04:55:48,763 --> 04:55:49,196 which are the leading cause of 9238 04:55:49,196 --> 04:55:49,929 homelessness. 9239 04:55:49,929 --> 04:55:52,329 The latest 2024 national survey 9240 04:55:54,268 --> 04:55:57,868 on drug use and help estimates 9241 04:55:58,138 --> 04:56:00,538 32% of the 64 million passed 9242 04:56:01,541 --> 04:56:02,175 year marijuana users 12 years 9243 04:56:02,175 --> 04:56:02,743 and older in America have 9244 04:56:02,743 --> 04:56:04,743 cannabis use disorder. 9245 04:56:06,780 --> 04:56:09,180 That number of Americans 9246 04:56:10,830 --> 04:56:10,717 addicted to marijuana comes to 9247 04:56:10,717 --> 04:56:11,384 over 20 million people. 9248 04:56:11,384 --> 04:56:13,784 The profit driven marijuana 9249 04:56:15,622 --> 04:56:16,323 industry continues to produce 9250 04:56:16,323 --> 04:56:18,723 and promote stronger products 9251 04:56:20,260 --> 04:56:20,893 that are addicting Millions and 9252 04:56:20,893 --> 04:56:21,494 distract, distracting and 9253 04:56:21,494 --> 04:56:23,494 disturbing their lives. 9254 04:56:25,499 --> 04:56:26,199 Marijuana use linked to 9255 04:56:26,199 --> 04:56:26,700 doubling the risk of psychosis 9256 04:56:26,700 --> 04:56:28,700 bipolar disorder. 9257 04:56:30,537 --> 04:56:31,271 This is all published in 9258 04:56:31,271 --> 04:56:31,705 the Journal of American Medical 9259 04:56:31,705 --> 04:56:33,705 Health Forum. 9260 04:56:34,942 --> 04:56:35,642 I urge the Council to not 9261 04:56:35,642 --> 04:56:38,420 prioritize this industry over 9262 04:56:39,313 --> 04:56:40,130 the many needs of the city. 9263 04:56:40,130 --> 04:56:42,413 Your focus and responsibility 9264 04:56:43,883 --> 04:56:44,485 is public health and safety. 9265 04:56:44,485 --> 04:56:45,152 Not advocating for more 9266 04:56:45,152 --> 04:56:47,552 marijuana businesses in our 9267 04:56:49,188 --> 04:56:50,570 city. 9268 04:56:50,570 --> 04:56:50,357 >> Thank you for letting me 9269 04:56:50,357 --> 04:56:50,724 speak. 9270 04:56:50,724 --> 04:56:51,291 Thank you. 9271 04:56:51,291 --> 04:56:53,691 Next is Ernie Castro. 9272 04:56:56,496 --> 04:56:56,897 If you can please unmute. 9273 04:56:56,897 --> 04:56:57,731 >> Hello. 9274 04:56:57,731 --> 04:57:00,731 Ernie Castro, La Hoya resident 9275 04:57:01,334 --> 04:57:02,300 Torrey Pines Glider Park. 9276 04:57:02,300 --> 04:57:05,300 It is illegal for anyone 9277 04:57:06,440 --> 04:57:07,173 including your leaseholder to 9278 04:57:07,173 --> 04:57:07,908 turn our freedom into an access 9279 04:57:07,908 --> 04:57:08,275 pass and a waiver for a license 9280 04:57:08,275 --> 04:57:10,275 and a fee. 9281 04:57:11,378 --> 04:57:12,790 What city liabilities are 9282 04:57:12,790 --> 04:57:14,479 already covered by California 9283 04:57:15,815 --> 04:57:16,517 recreational laws? 9284 04:57:16,517 --> 04:57:17,150 This is insurance fraud and 9285 04:57:17,150 --> 04:57:17,485 misappropriation of public 9286 04:57:17,485 --> 04:57:19,485 funding. 9287 04:57:20,354 --> 04:57:20,888 Going into private accounts 9288 04:57:20,888 --> 04:57:21,555 which demands a full 9289 04:57:21,555 --> 04:57:23,955 transparent city audit that 9290 04:57:26,260 --> 04:57:26,860 would end corruption within 9291 04:57:26,860 --> 04:57:27,728 Torrey Pines Sky Report. 9292 04:57:27,728 --> 04:57:30,865 We have a unanimous letter of 9293 04:57:30,865 --> 04:57:31,532 support from La Hoya Town 9294 04:57:31,532 --> 04:57:34,532 Council and La Hoya Shore's 9295 04:57:35,135 --> 04:57:35,769 Association to permanently 9296 04:57:35,769 --> 04:57:36,470 reconvene the Torrey Pines 9297 04:57:36,470 --> 04:57:39,470 Advisory Board But the Torrey 9298 04:57:40,175 --> 04:57:40,841 Pines Advisory Board 9299 04:57:40,841 --> 04:57:41,208 historically allowed this to 9300 04:57:41,208 --> 04:57:41,876 continue. 9301 04:57:41,876 --> 04:57:44,876 It is irresponsible for City 9302 04:57:45,846 --> 04:57:46,513 council to put Torrey Pines 9303 04:57:46,513 --> 04:57:50,113 glider part in the hands of 9304 04:57:50,785 --> 04:57:51,318 the advisory board That doesn't 9305 04:57:51,318 --> 04:57:53,318 even exist anymore. 9306 04:57:54,288 --> 04:57:54,989 It is City Council's job first 9307 04:57:54,989 --> 04:57:55,689 to stop the crime and then 9308 04:57:55,689 --> 04:57:58,890 reconvene the advisory board. 9309 04:57:59,193 --> 04:57:59,960 You have a proving working 9310 04:57:59,960 --> 04:58:03,560 solution known as the San Diego 9311 04:58:03,931 --> 04:58:04,632 Recreational waiver that 9312 04:58:04,632 --> 04:58:07,320 legally curiosity liability is 9313 04:58:08,936 --> 04:58:09,636 isolated safety concerns and 9314 04:58:09,636 --> 04:58:10,103 restores recreational freedoms 9315 04:58:10,103 --> 04:58:12,103 back to normal. 9316 04:58:13,908 --> 04:58:14,642 The San Diego Recreation waiver 9317 04:58:14,642 --> 04:58:15,242 stops the illegal collection of 9318 04:58:15,242 --> 04:58:17,642 funds going into private 9319 04:58:19,146 --> 04:58:19,814 accounts by separating the city 9320 04:58:19,814 --> 04:58:22,214 business from normal public 9321 04:58:23,818 --> 04:58:24,485 free access yet allow 9322 04:58:24,485 --> 04:58:25,186 the business to start paying 9323 04:58:25,186 --> 04:58:28,186 their own bills operating like 9324 04:58:28,989 --> 04:58:29,356 every other business in parks 9325 04:58:29,356 --> 04:58:29,957 and lands. 9326 04:58:29,957 --> 04:58:32,357 It breaks the ongoing 9327 04:58:34,562 --> 04:58:34,962 corruption at the glory of port 9328 04:58:34,962 --> 04:58:35,663 management. 9329 04:58:35,663 --> 04:58:38,630 Police reports provide justice 9330 04:58:38,799 --> 04:58:39,500 for victims and witnesses. 9331 04:58:39,500 --> 04:58:42,500 There are common business laws 9332 04:58:43,604 --> 04:58:44,272 to protect the public on how 9333 04:58:44,272 --> 04:58:44,872 businesses should be run in 9334 04:58:44,872 --> 04:58:47,272 public parks and lands. 9335 04:58:48,142 --> 04:58:48,542 It's a win for city council 9336 04:58:48,542 --> 04:58:50,542 liabilities. 9337 04:58:52,246 --> 04:58:52,880 It is in common contract laws 9338 04:58:52,880 --> 04:58:53,581 that legally restores our 9339 04:58:53,581 --> 04:58:55,981 recreational rights and years 9340 04:58:57,685 --> 04:58:58,152 for for years to come. 9341 04:58:58,152 --> 04:58:59,190 >> Thank you. 9342 04:58:59,190 --> 04:59:02,190 Madison If you can please 9343 04:59:02,223 --> 04:59:05,823 unmute after that will be done. 9344 04:59:06,360 --> 04:59:06,828 Madison please email. 9345 04:59:06,828 --> 04:59:07,462 >> Hi. 9346 04:59:07,462 --> 04:59:07,795 Good evening City Council 9347 04:59:07,795 --> 04:59:09,795 members. 9348 04:59:10,765 --> 04:59:11,499 I have three young children. 9349 04:59:11,499 --> 04:59:12,199 I often think about how much 9350 04:59:12,199 --> 04:59:15,199 care goes into protecting a 9351 04:59:15,436 --> 04:59:15,736 baby before that child is even 9352 04:59:15,736 --> 04:59:16,370 born. 9353 04:59:16,370 --> 04:59:19,370 Pregnant women are told to 9354 04:59:19,907 --> 04:59:20,608 watch what they eat, what 9355 04:59:20,608 --> 04:59:21,309 medications they take and what 9356 04:59:21,309 --> 04:59:23,709 substances they avoid because 9357 04:59:25,446 --> 04:59:26,181 those early months matter So 9358 04:59:26,181 --> 04:59:26,781 much for a child's development. 9359 04:59:26,781 --> 04:59:30,381 This is why I think it's 9360 04:59:30,385 --> 04:59:31,850 important to pay attention to 9361 04:59:31,850 --> 04:59:31,719 what the medical community is 9362 04:59:31,719 --> 04:59:32,219 saying about cannabis use 9363 04:59:32,219 --> 04:59:34,219 during pregnancy. 9364 04:59:35,623 --> 04:59:36,290 In OCTOBER 2025 the American 9365 04:59:36,290 --> 04:59:38,690 College of Obstetricians and 9366 04:59:40,428 --> 04:59:41,940 Gynecologists updated its 9367 04:59:41,940 --> 04:59:41,695 clinical guidance and stated 9368 04:59:41,695 --> 04:59:44,950 that cannabis use during 9369 04:59:44,732 --> 04:59:45,399 pregnancy has been associated 9370 04:59:45,399 --> 04:59:47,799 with serious risks including 9371 04:59:49,404 --> 04:59:50,104 spontaneous preterm birth, low 9372 04:59:50,104 --> 04:59:50,405 birth weight and developmental 9373 04:59:50,405 --> 04:59:52,405 delay. 9374 04:59:54,175 --> 04:59:54,742 As marijuana becomes more 9375 04:59:54,742 --> 04:59:56,742 socially accepted and 9376 04:59:58,546 --> 04:59:59,413 normalized and easier to access 9377 04:59:59,413 --> 05:00:00,810 ,many women MAY assume it is 9378 05:00:00,810 --> 05:00:03,810 harmless because it is often 9379 05:00:04,850 --> 05:00:04,852 described as a natural or even 9380 05:00:04,852 --> 05:00:05,353 promoted as a way to help with 9381 05:00:05,353 --> 05:00:07,353 stress or nausea. 9382 05:00:09,124 --> 05:00:09,657 But doctors are very clear that 9383 05:00:09,657 --> 05:00:10,325 there are no medical 9384 05:00:10,325 --> 05:00:12,725 indications for cannabis use 9385 05:00:13,628 --> 05:00:14,195 during pregnancy or during 9386 05:00:14,195 --> 05:00:16,195 the postpartum period. 9387 05:00:17,832 --> 05:00:18,499 Thc crosses the placenta 9388 05:00:18,499 --> 05:00:19,200 meaning a developing baby is 9389 05:00:19,200 --> 05:00:21,600 exposed during critical stages 9390 05:00:22,870 --> 05:00:23,604 of growth when the brain and 9391 05:00:23,604 --> 05:00:26,400 body are especially vulnerable. 9392 05:00:27,509 --> 05:00:27,909 Mothers deserve honest 9393 05:00:27,909 --> 05:00:28,509 information. 9394 05:00:28,509 --> 05:00:29,210 If we are serious about 9395 05:00:29,210 --> 05:00:31,610 protecting maternal and child 9396 05:00:32,580 --> 05:00:33,213 health then public policy 9397 05:00:33,213 --> 05:00:33,849 should reflect the medical 9398 05:00:33,849 --> 05:00:35,849 evidence showing prenatal 9399 05:00:37,218 --> 05:00:37,886 cannabis use is dangerous. 9400 05:00:37,886 --> 05:00:40,286 Not the marketing narrative. 9401 05:00:41,923 --> 05:00:42,390 Thank you. 9402 05:00:42,390 --> 05:00:42,790 >> Thank you. 9403 05:00:42,790 --> 05:00:44,790 Thank you. 9404 05:00:47,662 --> 05:00:48,363 On the stump and then at 8700 9405 05:00:48,363 --> 05:00:48,663 and our last speaker is Becky 9406 05:00:48,663 --> 05:00:50,663 Rupp. 9407 05:00:50,832 --> 05:00:53,232 >> Thank you very much. 9408 05:00:56,571 --> 05:00:59,571 And I watched and participated 9409 05:01:01,209 --> 05:01:05,347 in the appeal and I am too old 9410 05:01:05,347 --> 05:01:06,348 to that appeal occurred because 9411 05:01:06,348 --> 05:01:09,551 someone file one sheet of paper 9412 05:01:09,551 --> 05:01:11,951 and paid $2,000 and they 9413 05:01:14,189 --> 05:01:14,589 delayed the decision by some 9414 05:01:14,589 --> 05:01:16,589 five months. 9415 05:01:18,226 --> 05:01:21,226 And it's not over yet. 9416 05:01:22,931 --> 05:01:23,632 Now the city staff has issued a 9417 05:01:23,632 --> 05:01:26,320 notice of determination that 9418 05:01:28,804 --> 05:01:31,204 exam aims dangerous activities 9419 05:01:33,341 --> 05:01:34,309 within Los Dose Preserve. 9420 05:01:34,309 --> 05:01:36,709 They're going to allow 9421 05:01:37,979 --> 05:01:38,947 the conversion of the parking 9422 05:01:38,947 --> 05:01:42,450 lot into a new use as a 9423 05:01:42,450 --> 05:01:43,318 heliport. 9424 05:01:43,318 --> 05:01:46,918 They don't tell us they keeping 9425 05:01:47,288 --> 05:01:48,156 secret how many flights in and 9426 05:01:48,156 --> 05:01:48,856 out they're going to be or what 9427 05:01:48,856 --> 05:01:51,856 routes they're going to take. 9428 05:01:52,593 --> 05:01:53,261 I can assure you that the noise 9429 05:01:53,261 --> 05:01:55,661 and downdraft of helicopter 9430 05:01:57,632 --> 05:01:58,299 flights affects birds and other 9431 05:01:58,299 --> 05:02:00,299 animals particularly during 9432 05:02:02,470 --> 05:02:03,238 the planned nesting season. 9433 05:02:03,238 --> 05:02:05,638 Please council have them 9434 05:02:07,476 --> 05:02:09,876 withdraw that notice of 9435 05:02:12,481 --> 05:02:13,181 determination and begin to work 9436 05:02:13,181 --> 05:02:16,181 on it because otherwise we're 9437 05:02:16,785 --> 05:02:17,519 delaying a project which is 9438 05:02:17,519 --> 05:02:20,519 important and I support because 9439 05:02:21,423 --> 05:02:22,240 they didn't do the right 9440 05:02:22,240 --> 05:02:22,558 environmental analysis. 9441 05:02:22,558 --> 05:02:24,958 They didn't look at 9442 05:02:26,395 --> 05:02:27,610 the literature and they don't 9443 05:02:27,610 --> 05:02:30,610 know are keeping secret how 9444 05:02:31,330 --> 05:02:31,833 many flights and what 9445 05:02:31,833 --> 05:02:36,330 the flight path is going to be 9446 05:02:36,538 --> 05:02:37,239 for sd g And these helicopters 9447 05:02:37,239 --> 05:02:39,639 through the logs and 9448 05:02:40,442 --> 05:02:41,109 the skeeters preserve that is 9449 05:02:41,109 --> 05:02:43,109 an environmentally sensitive 9450 05:02:45,681 --> 05:02:46,415 area and they have taken an 9451 05:02:46,415 --> 05:02:46,915 exemption for a parking lot not 9452 05:02:46,915 --> 05:02:48,915 a sensitive area. 9453 05:02:49,151 --> 05:02:52,151 Please help them withdraw it. 9454 05:02:54,489 --> 05:02:55,524 >> Thank you. 9455 05:02:55,524 --> 05:02:55,858 >> It is 700 if you can please 9456 05:02:55,858 --> 05:02:57,858 unmute. 9457 05:03:03,332 --> 05:03:06,932 After that we pick you up. 9458 05:03:07,202 --> 05:03:07,903 Thank you Joyce And the other 9459 05:03:07,903 --> 05:03:10,303 three three different topics. 9460 05:03:11,473 --> 05:03:15,611 First of all I want to speak to 9461 05:03:15,611 --> 05:03:16,411 a shout out for a park staff 9462 05:03:16,411 --> 05:03:17,379 member today that I happened to 9463 05:03:17,379 --> 05:03:20,115 chat with on my way to get 9464 05:03:20,115 --> 05:03:20,849 coffee. 9465 05:03:20,849 --> 05:03:23,249 He was so wonderful. 9466 05:03:25,540 --> 05:03:25,754 He was just getting out of his 9467 05:03:25,754 --> 05:03:28,754 truck over by Children's Park 9468 05:03:30,759 --> 05:03:31,693 and I just want to compliment 9469 05:03:31,693 --> 05:03:35,970 and thank our all of our park 9470 05:03:35,970 --> 05:03:35,797 employees and the director for 9471 05:03:35,797 --> 05:03:39,168 what they do for our parks. 9472 05:03:39,168 --> 05:03:39,501 They're just so appreciated and 9473 05:03:39,501 --> 05:03:41,501 valued. 9474 05:03:44,272 --> 05:03:44,973 I also want to chat about I 9475 05:03:44,973 --> 05:03:47,373 want to recommend that 9476 05:03:49,211 --> 05:03:52,211 the public read the article. 9477 05:03:53,782 --> 05:03:54,483 I think it was I don't remember 9478 05:03:54,483 --> 05:03:58,830 what day it was very recently 9479 05:03:58,587 --> 05:03:59,288 yesterday or the day before or 9480 05:03:59,288 --> 05:04:02,288 Friday on the pension payment 9481 05:04:03,692 --> 05:04:04,426 that's now been decided and 9482 05:04:04,426 --> 05:04:08,260 it's higher than last year much 9483 05:04:08,463 --> 05:04:09,130 higher and I just can't you 9484 05:04:09,130 --> 05:04:09,565 know the pension crisis has 9485 05:04:09,565 --> 05:04:11,565 challenged me. 9486 05:04:13,602 --> 05:04:14,469 I started in oh four when we 9487 05:04:14,469 --> 05:04:18,730 were in run by the c because of 9488 05:04:18,730 --> 05:04:18,741 the pension debacle And I have 9489 05:04:18,741 --> 05:04:19,408 not been able to understand 9490 05:04:19,408 --> 05:04:22,408 the system all these years. 9491 05:04:22,645 --> 05:04:23,512 But this article helped me to 9492 05:04:23,512 --> 05:04:27,112 begin to really make some big 9493 05:04:28,150 --> 05:04:28,817 cracks in it And so Budget 9494 05:04:28,817 --> 05:04:31,817 Committee But you've got to 9495 05:04:32,688 --> 05:04:33,222 help the people understand 9496 05:04:33,222 --> 05:04:33,923 what's going on with 9497 05:04:33,923 --> 05:04:36,923 the pension pension system and 9498 05:04:37,693 --> 05:04:38,527 how it impacts our budget. 9499 05:04:38,527 --> 05:04:41,764 And then one other thing I may 9500 05:04:41,764 --> 05:04:45,364 go over to a city clerk. 9501 05:04:46,735 --> 05:04:47,503 I Googled about India and how 9502 05:04:47,503 --> 05:04:51,103 India was able to be so 9503 05:04:51,574 --> 05:04:54,574 effective to get their digital 9504 05:04:56,112 --> 05:04:56,879 divide stopped or not helped 9505 05:04:56,879 --> 05:04:59,879 and I just can't recommend 9506 05:05:02,840 --> 05:05:02,785 enough that I.T and any but 9507 05:05:02,785 --> 05:05:06,385 there's an item coming up I 9508 05:05:06,656 --> 05:05:07,356 believe very soon on it and 9509 05:05:07,356 --> 05:05:10,356 your time just concluded sorry 9510 05:05:13,462 --> 05:05:14,197 Becky wrap your final speaker. 9511 05:05:14,197 --> 05:05:14,964 >> Good evening my name is 9512 05:05:14,964 --> 05:05:17,733 Becky Rapp and first I want to 9513 05:05:17,733 --> 05:05:18,434 thank the council for today's 9514 05:05:18,434 --> 05:05:19,202 discussion on the recent crime 9515 05:05:19,202 --> 05:05:22,802 briefing And I'd also like to 9516 05:05:23,272 --> 05:05:24,600 express my appreciation to 9517 05:05:24,600 --> 05:05:24,740 the San Diego Police Department 9518 05:05:24,740 --> 05:05:27,944 for the hard work they do every 9519 05:05:27,944 --> 05:05:28,243 day to keep our communities 9520 05:05:28,243 --> 05:05:28,978 safe. 9521 05:05:28,978 --> 05:05:32,578 Our officers are often asked to 9522 05:05:32,814 --> 05:05:33,483 respond to incredibly complex 9523 05:05:33,483 --> 05:05:36,483 situations and many of those 9524 05:05:37,653 --> 05:05:38,154 situations involve behavioral 9525 05:05:38,154 --> 05:05:38,721 health challenges. 9526 05:05:38,721 --> 05:05:39,389 As mentioned earlier, 9527 05:05:39,389 --> 05:05:42,389 behavioral health is a very 9528 05:05:42,625 --> 05:05:43,359 real and growing issue in our 9529 05:05:43,359 --> 05:05:43,993 city and San Diego continues to 9530 05:05:43,993 --> 05:05:46,993 face a severe shortage of 9531 05:05:47,129 --> 05:05:47,830 behavioral health services. 9532 05:05:47,830 --> 05:05:50,830 Too often our police officers 9533 05:05:51,868 --> 05:05:52,735 are placed on the front lines 9534 05:05:52,735 --> 05:05:53,503 of crises and would be at a 9535 05:05:53,503 --> 05:05:56,503 crisis that would be better 9536 05:05:56,639 --> 05:05:57,272 handle with trained 9537 05:05:57,272 --> 05:05:58,400 professionals And we ask a 9538 05:05:58,400 --> 05:06:01,640 great deal of our officers and 9539 05:06:02,440 --> 05:06:02,778 they deserve to have the proper 9540 05:06:02,778 --> 05:06:05,178 resources and experts available 9541 05:06:06,482 --> 05:06:07,183 to support them as the Council 9542 05:06:07,183 --> 05:06:07,816 considers proposals to expand 9543 05:06:07,816 --> 05:06:10,216 the social equity cannabis 9544 05:06:11,654 --> 05:06:12,254 program by adding 36 additional 9545 05:06:12,254 --> 05:06:12,989 retail marijuana permits 9546 05:06:12,989 --> 05:06:15,389 potentially doubling the number 9547 05:06:16,491 --> 05:06:17,259 of pot shops in our city. 9548 05:06:17,259 --> 05:06:17,960 I believe it would be helpful 9549 05:06:17,960 --> 05:06:20,960 for the public and for 9550 05:06:21,363 --> 05:06:22,640 policymakers to see a clear 9551 05:06:22,640 --> 05:06:24,464 cost analysis Specifically how 9552 05:06:25,535 --> 05:06:26,202 much city funding staff time 9553 05:06:26,202 --> 05:06:26,870 and administrative resources 9554 05:06:26,870 --> 05:06:29,870 would be required to support 9555 05:06:30,640 --> 05:06:33,640 and expansion of the marijuana 9556 05:06:34,610 --> 05:06:35,245 industry compared to investing 9557 05:06:35,245 --> 05:06:35,945 those same resources into 9558 05:06:35,945 --> 05:06:38,345 behavioral health services and 9559 05:06:39,749 --> 05:06:40,449 professionals who could work 9560 05:06:40,449 --> 05:06:42,849 alongside our first responders 9561 05:06:44,320 --> 05:06:45,540 At a time when San Diego is 9562 05:06:45,540 --> 05:06:45,755 already facing difficult budget 9563 05:06:45,755 --> 05:06:48,155 decisions, it's critical that 9564 05:06:48,825 --> 05:06:49,491 we carefully evaluate where our 9565 05:06:49,491 --> 05:06:50,260 limited resources will make 9566 05:06:50,260 --> 05:06:52,260 the greatest impact 9567 05:06:53,797 --> 05:06:54,497 strengthening behavioral health 9568 05:06:54,497 --> 05:06:55,650 infrastructure would directly 9569 05:06:55,650 --> 05:06:57,650 support public safety. 9570 05:06:59,102 --> 05:06:59,803 Our officers and the long term 9571 05:06:59,803 --> 05:07:02,803 well-being of our entire city. 9572 05:07:04,140 --> 05:07:04,507 Thank them. 9573 05:07:04,507 --> 05:07:05,174 Thank you. 9574 05:07:05,174 --> 05:07:05,774 This does conclude knowledge 9575 05:07:05,774 --> 05:07:06,242 and a public comment for 9576 05:07:06,242 --> 05:07:08,242 today's meeting. 9577 05:07:09,345 --> 05:07:10,120 All right. 9578 05:07:10,120 --> 05:07:10,680 Thank you, City Clerk. 9579 05:07:10,680 --> 05:07:11,348 Does the city attorney have 9580 05:07:11,348 --> 05:07:11,814 anything to report out from 9581 05:07:11,814 --> 05:07:13,814 closed session? 9582 05:07:14,484 --> 05:07:14,951 There's no report out from 9583 05:07:14,951 --> 05:07:15,385 closed session. 9584 05:07:15,385 --> 05:07:15,919 >> All right. 9585 05:07:15,919 --> 05:07:18,319 Thank you for that. 9586 05:07:18,388 --> 05:07:19,550 Lastly, we will now adjourn 9587 05:07:19,550 --> 05:07:19,723 council to the regularly 9588 05:07:19,723 --> 05:07:21,491 scheduled council meeting on 9589 05:07:21,491 --> 05:07:21,825 Tuesday MARCH 17th, 2026 at 10 9590 05:07:21,825 --> 05:07:23,825 A.M..