[8:42] .
[8:43] All right.
[8:43] Good morning.
[8:44] I will now call a city council
[8:47] meeting on Monday MARCH 16th,
[8:48] 2026 to order Deputy Clerk
[8:51] Please call the roll
[8:53] Councilmember Campbell Campbell
[9:02] I'm here.
[9:02] Thank you, Councilmember.
[9:03] What brought Councilmember
[9:03] Woodburn here?
[9:04] Councilmember Foster
[9:05] Councilmember Yvonne Wolpert
[9:10] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[9:11] here Council Member to you hear
[9:14] Council Member Moreno present
[9:15] Council member Ella Rivera and
[9:18] Council PRESIDENT LaCava
[9:19] present.
[9:19] Also attending the meeting are
[9:20] City Attorney Heather Herbert,
[9:24] Independent budget analyst
[9:25] Charles Monica and myself your
[9:28] assistant city Clerk dg
[9:29] Pantaleo.
[9:29] >> All right, thank you.
[9:30] A quorum is now present.
[9:34] We will begin this morning with
[9:35] an invocation by Deputy clerk
[9:35] John followed with the land
[9:37] acknowledgment and the pledge
[9:38] of Allegiance by council member
[9:42] Campbell.
[9:43] We respectfully acknowledge
[9:47] that the I'm sorry Oh I'm sorry
[9:51] Grant Those who hold office in
[9:52] the city the spirit of wisdom,
[9:52] charity and justice that with
[9:56] steadfast purpose they MAY
[9:56] faithfully serve in their
[9:57] offices to promote
[10:01] the well-being of all people.
[10:01] We respectfully acknowledge
[10:06] that the Kumia are the original
[10:10] inhabitants of the Unceded land
[10:11] now known as San Diego.
[10:12] Despite enduring the horrors of
[10:16] genocide and colonization,
[10:16] the community spirit remains
[10:17] unbroken.
[10:20] We honor the resilience of
[10:21] their ancestors who fought to
[10:25] protect their culture and land
[10:25] .
[10:26] Today they carry their legacy
[10:30] forward ensuring that their
[10:31] traditions continue to thrive
[10:31] in gratitude and strength.
[10:35] We stand with the culmination
[10:36] connected to our past and
[10:40] committed to its thriving
[10:40] future.
[10:41] Please raise the flag Put your
[10:45] right hand over your heart and
[10:45] let's say the Pledge of
[10:46] Allegiance together Pledge
[10:50] allegiance to the flag of
[10:51] the United States of America
[10:55] and to the Republic for which
[10:56] it stands One nation under GOD
[11:09] indivisible with.
[11:10] >> All right.
[11:10] The deputy clerk will now go
[11:14] over how the public can offer
[11:14] their testimony.
[11:15] >> Please proceed.
[11:18] I will now highlight the slide
[11:18] on the screen that reviews how
[11:19] the public can offer the public
[11:20] testimony during today's
[11:23] meeting.
[11:24] If you are in person please
[11:25] complete a speaker select
[11:25] located at the entrance of
[11:28] chambers and bring it to
[11:29] the front of the room.
[11:30] No further in-person testimony
[11:30] will be taken once the council
[11:33] begins virtual testimony for
[11:33] better meeting management
[11:34] purposes.
[11:37] Each speaker will have one
[11:38] minute per item per person.
[11:42] >> All right.
[11:42] Thank you Deputy Clerk.
[11:43] With that please read
[11:44] the closed session items into
[11:46] the record and proceed with
[11:47] public comment.
[11:48] >> Conference with Legal
[11:51] Counsel Existing Litigation
[11:52] pursuant to California
[11:56] Government Code Section 5495
[11:59] 6.91 See as 1st JANUARY 2020
[12:00] JANUARY 22nd 2024 Floating
[12:00] Litigation California
[12:04] Government Code Section
[12:05] 54957862 Critical
[12:09] infrastructure information
[12:10] relating to cybersecurity
[12:10] conference with legal counsel
[12:14] significant exposure to
[12:15] litigation pursuant to
[12:18] California Government Code
[12:19] Section 54956. 9d263 Number of
[12:25] cases one and proceed with
[12:26] public offering.
[12:30] Okay I have Thank you Counsel
[12:30] PRESIDENT We do not have any
[12:34] in-person public comment so I
[12:35] will now start the five minute
[12:37] timer and go to our virtual
[12:42] comment will go to original
[12:47] draft.
[12:48] Please let me know what items
[12:51] you'd like to speak to that So
[12:52] if there's other callers are
[12:53] going to be aware of what's
[12:56] happening.
[12:57] Hello Could you could you
[13:01] repeat that again?
[13:06] I can't hear anything can we?
[13:09] We can't hear you.
[13:10] Can you repeat what you're
[13:14] saying?
[13:19] She can't hear us.
[13:19] She can't hear us.
[13:20] Okay.
[13:21] Let me see if I could put up
[13:26] the volume.
[13:36] Can you hear us now?
[13:37] I think you need to fix it
[13:41] before moving forward because
[13:42] it's obvious there's something
[13:42] wrong.
[13:51] We could hear you in chambers.
[13:54] >> Can you hear us?
[14:05] Original draft talking to her
[14:23] But did you hear us now?
[14:24] So there's no we can We can go
[14:28] over to the next one where she
[14:34] can Yeah original which I will
[14:35] I we'll move to the next caller
[14:36] and we'll put you back on
[14:46] the queue.
[14:47] Okay We have the next caller
[14:48] Blaire Beekman have allowed you
[14:52] to speak Could you speak could
[14:52] you state which closed session
[14:57] items you'd like to speak to?
[15:00] Sarah Well I think one is also
[15:01] here Now if we could hear you
[15:05] or Blair and I can hear Drey
[15:06] Okay you guys here it's in
[15:07] the council chambers.
[15:07] It's it's pretty low.
[15:11] She was very in hear
[15:16] the council chambers But I can
[15:17] Can you hang on for one second,
[15:17] please?
[15:17] We're having technical
[15:18] difficulty.
[15:22] You seem like city unmuted and
[15:23] but that's a little bit of
[15:23] sound came in but then it
[15:27] needed that exactly I same
[15:35] doing Yeah yeah I can get my
[15:36] public comment if you like okay
[15:40] perfect it's okay okay we could
[15:41] start We can start now.
[15:41] Could you please substitute Can
[15:48] you harass Blair I got muted
[15:52] when Blair came.
[15:52] I'm still unmuted so maybe I
[15:57] will try to speak up.
[16:00] >> MR. Bateman?
[16:00] >> MR. Bateman, could you hear
[16:04] me okay.
[16:05] You be cool about this now.
[16:07] So calm head.
[16:12] MR. Bateman, can you hear us?
[16:18] Any other options?
[16:19] I think we're just going to
[16:26] have to call and I guess I
[16:31] tried.
[16:32] >> I wanted to speak to three
[16:34] items MR. Beekman, can you hear
[16:42] us now?
[16:43] >> Thank you.
[16:48] I wanted to speak to Yes, one's
[16:49] here.
[16:49] Students Here Three Okay.
[16:52] Please.
[16:53] Please proceed.
[16:53] Maybe I can just try to speak
[16:57] now and see how that impact can
[16:58] ,you know, go through your
[16:59] chambers.
[16:59] >> Okay, good.
[17:02] The timer started so I will
[17:03] speak to that item and
[17:04] hopefully that can be a
[17:04] starting point for ourselves
[17:05] and maybe we can work on it as
[17:08] a meeting goes on for this one
[17:12] I have a good luck to ourselves
[17:12] that we're working on on
[17:17] platitudes as a community
[17:18] process.
[17:18] Very nice to are mentioned at a
[17:21] previous meeting I was
[17:21] attending.
[17:22] >> It's a crazy scenario that
[17:25] they're both suing and
[17:26] countersuing going on over what
[17:27] issues in what was a natural
[17:31] disaster and in a certain
[17:32] responsibility this city of San
[17:35] Diego has in these sort of
[17:36] issues I hope both sides I
[17:40] think the reason why San Diego
[17:41] is countersuing is to kind of
[17:45] limit and mitigate the suing
[17:45] claims of people.
[17:49] I hope that people suing and
[17:50] the city of San Diego can both
[17:54] take a deep breath and mellow
[17:55] out as much as they can and
[17:56] come to reasonable agreements
[18:00] together and not go for all out
[18:01] craziness for a really bad
[18:04] situation.
[18:05] Good luck.
[18:05] We work on this together.
[18:06] I know you're trying.
[18:07] I thought I'd just remind
[18:07] everyone everybody of that
[18:12] right now.
[18:13] Item number Uh, there was
[18:14] another item I guess the closed
[18:18] session the item about Brown
[18:18] Act issues.
[18:22] It seems like you're being
[18:23] there's Brown Act violations
[18:27] going on again that you're
[18:27] having to address.
[18:31] I know that the Council and
[18:32] City government of California
[18:33] really love the rules of order
[18:36] and they follow that to
[18:37] the letter and that's forms of
[18:38] representational democracy
[18:41] representation in public it's
[18:42] more internalized, it's more of
[18:46] an egalitarian list of
[18:47] parliamentary procedures
[18:48] whereas the Brown Act is more
[18:51] you know, the open is a bit
[18:52] more democratic process created
[18:56] by legislature or you know, our
[19:00] public and we have a public
[19:01] that really wants to practice
[19:02] open participatory democracy
[19:05] where you guys in the city
[19:06] government always want to
[19:06] practice you know
[19:07] representational democracy and
[19:10] egalitarianism parliamentary
[19:10] procedures and that's more
[19:15] secretive and hidden and it
[19:16] makes things uncomfortable.
[19:16] I hope we really want to be,
[19:19] you know, making the effort to
[19:20] want to explore open
[19:20] participatory democracy is good
[19:24] procedure ideas and how to
[19:25] understand our issues more
[19:25] clearly.
[19:29] We don't have to think of it
[19:30] mob rule I can go on for a long
[19:34] time about this and
[19:35] the goodness of open
[19:35] participant participatory
[19:38] democracy When it is time we
[19:39] can practice it better.
[19:39] Let's hope we can.
[19:43] I also wanted to conclude that
[19:47] I do for item the second item i
[19:47] i'm not remembering its nature
[19:48] probably right now I'm going to
[19:52] have to pass Good luck that you
[19:53] can fix the council zoom issues
[19:54] at this time and snappers thank
[20:01] you for your time and patience
[20:01] .
[20:02] Your time is concluded and I
[20:05] can I go now or I just want to
[20:06] make sure I'm not being skipped
[20:06] on.
[20:10] Oh I that's okay Now it's a
[20:14] really echoey I'm just trying
[20:15] to keep you guys up to date but
[20:19] I could hear Blair very clear.
[20:20] I felt like I was on the phone
[20:20] with him and you sound like
[20:24] you're in a tunnel or
[20:24] something, But anyway, I'll
[20:25] just thank you for your
[20:25] patience.
[20:28] Please proceed.
[20:28] Okay.
[20:30] I'm going to speak on all of
[20:32] them.
[20:33] Yes.
[20:33] I appreciate you, Blair and
[20:34] what you had to say about all
[20:38] that with this season one with
[20:42] the JANUARY flooding that had
[20:43] taken place And you know, you
[20:44] guys are countersuing many of
[20:48] these people And that's what's
[20:48] so sad is that you're even
[20:49] asking and coming at the people
[20:52] for $5 Billion because this
[20:56] storm infrastructure is
[20:57] basically at its end of life
[20:57] and we shouldn't be in that
[20:58] place.
[21:01] So it's a little bit scary to
[21:01] think about what could take
[21:02] place knowing that
[21:05] the infrastructure is still not
[21:06] going to be at a place where
[21:07] it's going to be able to
[21:11] sustain anything especially
[21:12] when weather modification is
[21:12] happening Like I talked to you
[21:16] guys all the time and during
[21:16] that flood there was cloud
[21:17] seeding happening before,
[21:17] during and after the storm.
[21:21] So if that happens again or in
[21:21] some pretty big and that's
[21:25] just going to cause more money
[21:26] from the people because you
[21:27] guys in the city didn't do what
[21:30] has been necessary over decades
[21:31] of time to make sure that this
[21:34] infrastructure was up kept so
[21:35] it's just ridiculous.
[21:36] And then with this
[21:36] cybersecurity stuff there's
[21:40] nothing insecure.
[21:40] Phones aren't secure, Your
[21:41] computers are not secure No
[21:42] matter what you do, everything
[21:44] is able to be hacked.
[21:45] But outside of that data is
[21:50] being sold in subscription
[21:50] basis.
[21:51] We know that with like a open
[21:54] lock and all that but then it's
[21:55] like you don't put that into
[21:55] everything else where
[21:59] everything isn't secure But
[22:00] when data gets sold and shared
[22:01] and transferred from here to
[22:04] there and this and that.
[22:05] So it's like and what's
[22:05] worrisome is that you know, you
[22:06] guys want to bring in things
[22:09] like A.I. That's going to make
[22:10] things even less secure and
[22:14] less you know, have an ability
[22:15] because it elucidates and
[22:19] that's another thing is that it
[22:19] takes all our freshwater all
[22:20] these data centers.
[22:23] So it's like you just I just
[22:24] don't feel like it's sad that
[22:24] you don't think about things in
[22:28] a logical way that you would
[22:28] make sure that you're
[22:32] protecting people from
[22:33] the dangers of things you
[22:33] actually literally like per
[22:37] basis head on to it.
[22:38] And with the Brown Act I mean
[22:38] you don't even uphold
[22:42] the Constitution and you're
[22:43] constantly violating the Brown
[22:43] Act and Robert's Rules of
[22:44] Order.
[22:47] So it's like it doesn't matter
[22:48] how many rules get put in place
[22:51] or policy it's like you're
[22:52] always you're breaking the law
[22:55] with what you guys do and
[22:56] the Constitution should be
[22:57] the very first thing that you
[23:01] uphold.
[23:02] I mean you take an oath to it.
[23:02] The other things you don't take
[23:05] an oath to like all these other
[23:06] things which you can't even,
[23:06] you know, take an oath and make
[23:10] sure that you stand in that and
[23:11] go we're not going to violate
[23:12] this type of things like coming
[23:15] after people's guns that right
[23:15] shall not be infringed our
[23:16] First Amendment right freedom
[23:19] of the press like you just
[23:20] being able to live our lives
[23:25] There's it's just it's sad So
[23:25] it's like you know but here
[23:26] we're going to be spending
[23:27] money and hopefully this will
[23:29] make you guys course correct
[23:30] and start doing things
[23:31] differently so that we don't
[23:31] have to have this type of
[23:32] litigation come down the pike
[23:44] all the time that I've I've
[23:44] never been to China.
[23:45] I'll talk to them Basically I'm
[23:47] going to give my perspective
[24:19] and
[24:25] it's not So we'd like to
[24:25] speak briefly.
[24:29] John Stump speaking the audio
[24:29] is completely goofed up.
[24:33] You got a big echo and my
[24:38] comments are really for a
[24:39] closed session non agenda.
[24:43] So when you get to that I hope
[24:43] we can have the audio
[24:47] straightened out Call me back
[24:54] for non agenda comment.
[24:54] >> Okay.
[24:54] Thank you.
[24:55] Did you mean non agenda number
[25:10] one comment I under
[25:10] understanding you do you hear
[25:15] the echo you've got yes they're
[25:16] working on the technical
[25:19] difficulties okay you're going
[25:23] to call me back for non agenda
[25:29] the thing but you know your
[25:29] presentation is not working
[25:33] correctly thank you We will get
[25:39] in touch with you on and
[25:40] the last one because
[25:44] the meeting and then that 87
[25:44] 100 please when you close
[25:45] session I know you like to be
[25:52] careful Wow Thank you so much.
[25:52] I don't know the name of
[25:56] the person that is at
[26:01] the control there for working
[26:02] of the technology.
[26:02] But thank you.
[26:03] Thank you everybody who's
[26:06] helping.
[26:07] >> Love you all.
[26:07] Okay.
[26:08] All three items please.
[26:14] You'll have a choice.
[26:15] And yet the district three I
[26:19] can't really hear you Barely.
[26:20] But I hope I'm in there.
[26:24] Well, let me shut off my chair
[26:24] .
[26:24] That's better.
[26:25] Okay, so all three items
[26:28] floating a litigation and here
[26:29] is my direction.
[26:33] Most of us know why there are
[26:34] 57 people raising their hands
[26:37] out to us.
[26:38] The perfect storm What is our
[26:43] ally for?
[26:44] It makes us look at our city
[26:45] and what makes it work or not
[26:47] work.
[26:48] And this ally showed us what
[26:52] doesn't work This is not
[26:52] the city we want to be.
[26:57] This is not the city we need to
[26:57] be.
[26:58] We need to put one very simple
[27:02] thing into the plaintiff's
[27:02] hands.
[27:02] Show them that we care.
[27:07] Then we can follow the letter
[27:08] of the law and the spirit of
[27:08] the law.
[27:11] Love to all.
[27:12] Number two Cyber security Here
[27:16] is my direction.
[27:17] We are not alone in this
[27:17] matter.
[27:21] It is happening exponentially
[27:22] faster than we perhaps can keep
[27:27] up with it while back I spoke
[27:31] of the nation's $1.5 trillion
[27:35] debt of under an I t update
[27:36] modernization and so forth Here
[27:40] public This item is
[27:44] confidential yet it is up to us
[27:44] to be stewards of knowledge on
[27:49] this matter and also to support
[27:50] our city in its efforts to
[27:54] bring it under control as best
[27:55] they can.
[27:59] Love to all and less see as
[28:00] three Brown Act litigation.
[28:04] I wasn't sure what I wanted or
[28:05] needed to say on this matter so
[28:09] it's not direction per say it's
[28:13] just this litigation is for
[28:14] moments like this life has a
[28:18] way of creating them So we can
[28:19] work together more and foster
[28:19] growth.
[28:23] Love to all Well praise GOD.
[28:23] Hallelujah.
[28:24] Thank you.
[28:27] Have a beautiful day On behalf
[28:38] of Council PRESIDENT Like I'm
[28:38] crazy for sure.
[28:39] All right.
[28:39] Thank you, Deputy Clerk, for
[28:41] navigating that challenge.
[28:42] We will now recess in
[28:42] the closed session and
[28:45] reconvene council today at 2
[33:45] P.M. Or shortly thereafter
[36:02] and
[36:03] All right, good afternoon.
[36:03] >> I will convene the city
[36:04] council meeting on Monday,
[36:06] MARCH 16th, 2026.
[36:07] Clerk Please call the roll.
[36:07] Thank you.
[36:12] Council PRESIDENT Council
[36:12] Member Campbell here Council
[36:13] Member Whitburn here.
[36:17] Council Member Foster
[36:17] Councilmember Ron Wilber
[36:18] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[36:21] here Councilmember Campos
[36:22] Council Member Moreno Present
[36:26] Council Member Ellen Rivera and
[36:27] Council PRESIDENT LaCava
[36:27] present.
[36:28] Also attending the meeting are
[36:31] Assistant City Attorney Leslie
[36:31] Fitzgerald, independent budget
[36:32] analyst Charles Monica and
[36:35] myself, our City Clerk Diana
[36:36] Fuentes.
[36:36] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[36:37] All right.
[36:37] Thank you, City Clerk a quorum
[36:40] is now present.
[36:41] I see a lot of faces that I
[36:42] haven't seen in chambers
[36:42] before.
[36:45] Thank you for showing up.
[36:46] I'm sure we'll have a number of
[36:47] people calling in as well
[36:50] rather than read the whole
[36:50] disruption warning language
[36:51] The most effective way for you
[36:55] to communicate when you hear
[36:55] things you like or don't like
[36:56] is by using your thumbs.
[36:59] If you hear a speaker say
[37:00] something you like thumbs up it
[37:04] communicates to hear very
[37:04] effectively.
[37:05] If you hear something you don't
[37:09] like thumbs down it is again a
[37:09] very easy way doesn't disrupt
[37:10] doesn't interfere with
[37:14] the speaker's ability to talk
[37:15] to the council going forward.
[37:20] So I think an upset there with
[37:20] that.
[37:21] Do we have any comments from
[37:24] the mayor's office, city
[37:24] council members, city attorney,
[37:25] independent budget analysts or
[37:28] city clerk, council member
[37:29] Thank you.
[37:29] Council PRESIDENT Over
[37:30] the weekend we had a couple of
[37:33] anti lgbt incidents in
[37:34] Hillcrest.
[37:37] The first one involved
[37:38] harassment and slurs.
[37:42] That was bad enough.
[37:42] The second one was worse.
[37:43] A person was repeatedly punched
[37:47] in the face by somebody yelling
[37:47] transgender slurs.
[37:48] I can report that the suspect
[37:51] in that second attack was
[37:52] arrested thanks to the quick
[37:52] work of our police department.
[37:56] But since we had two incidents
[37:57] in one weekend, I want to state
[37:57] this publicly There are
[38:01] multiple streetlight cameras
[38:01] and automated license plate
[38:02] readers in Hillcrest.
[38:06] I requested them in response to
[38:07] hate crimes against the lgbt
[38:11] community since they were
[38:12] installed they have been used
[38:13] successfully to arrest suspects
[38:16] in lgbt hate crimes Do not come
[38:17] to Hillcrest to commit crimes.
[38:21] Hillcrest is a wonderful
[38:22] neighborhood where people feel
[38:22] free to be whoever they are If
[38:26] you don't like that don't come
[38:26] because be aware that if you
[38:31] come to Hillcrest to commit
[38:32] hate crimes we have streetlight
[38:32] cameras, we have automated
[38:36] license plate readers and we
[38:36] have a police department that
[38:37] will use those tools to
[38:40] identify you, catch you and
[38:41] bring you to justice.
[38:41] Thank you.
[38:42] Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[38:45] Council member and City Clerk.
[38:46] >> Thank you.
[38:50] Council PRESIDENT During this
[38:51] morning's public comment period
[38:52] on the closed session agenda we
[38:52] did experience some technical
[38:55] difficulties with those
[38:55] participating Virtually
[38:56] the issues have now been
[38:56] resolved.
[38:59] We want to reassure those who
[39:00] provided virtual comments that
[39:00] the City Council was able to
[39:01] hear comments provided
[39:05] virtually before convening into
[39:05] closed session.
[39:06] We think the public for their
[39:07] continued participation and
[39:10] cooperation.
[39:11] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[39:11] All right.
[39:12] Thank you.
[39:12] Not see anybody else in
[39:13] the lights.
[39:15] Clerk Please go over how
[39:16] the public can offer their
[39:16] testimony.
[39:16] >> Thank you.
[39:20] Council PRESIDENT Excuse me I
[39:21] will now offer how the how
[39:25] the off how the public can
[39:26] offer their public
[39:26] participation Today I'd like to
[39:27] highlight the slide on
[39:30] the screen that reviews this
[39:30] The order can be found on
[39:31] the agenda summary found online
[39:35] or at the table in the back of
[39:35] the room.
[39:36] It is the last page on that
[39:40] packet If you are in person
[39:41] please complete two speakers up
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[39:42] chambers and bring it to
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[39:50] slips or the additional speaker
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[39:51] Council Ambassadors Ambassadors
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[39:57] questions and speakers Lips No
[40:00] further in-person testimony
[40:01] will be taken once the council
[40:01] begins Virtual Testimony Thank
[40:05] you Council PRESIDENT All
[40:06] right.
[40:06] Thank you for that.
[40:09] And with that please introduce
[40:09] item 200.
[40:10] >> Item 200 is a city of San
[40:14] Diego crime briefing JANUARY
[40:15] through DECEMBER 2025.
[40:20] This is an informational item
[40:21] If you'd like to speak to this
[40:22] item please be sure to submit
[40:22] your speakers up to the front
[40:25] of the room in the clear box or
[40:26] if you're participating
[40:26] virtually now's the time to
[40:27] raise your hand by pressing
[40:30] Star nine or the raise your
[40:30] hand icon.
[40:31] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And
[40:35] thank you for that introducing
[40:35] that item And as we see
[40:40] the chief and staff settle in
[40:41] please introduce yourselves for
[40:41] the record and let us know how
[40:45] much time you need for your
[40:45] presentation.
[40:46] >> Good afternoon.
[40:47] Council PRESIDENT LaCava Scott
[40:50] Walsh Chief of Police And we
[40:54] will need about 15 minutes for
[40:55] procedure when you're ready.
[40:55] Okay.
[40:55] Good afternoon.
[40:59] Good afternoon.
[41:00] PRESIDENT Of the Covenant
[41:01] Honorable members of City
[41:01] Council.
[41:02] I'm pleased to announce today
[41:05] that San Diego remains one of
[41:05] the safest big cities in
[41:06] the country.
[41:09] Last year crime dropped for
[41:10] the fourth year in a row.
[41:10] Some of our numbers haven't
[41:14] been this low since the 1960s
[41:14] and 70s when Santiago's
[41:19] population was far smaller than
[41:19] it is today.
[41:20] I want to highlight a few key
[41:21] statistics.
[41:24] Homicides fell by 25%.
[41:28] Our homicide unit solved 26 of
[41:29] the ten murders committed last
[41:29] year.
[41:34] And Alpers helped us solve a
[41:34] third of them.
[41:38] Vehicle thefts dropped by 22%.
[41:42] Alpers helped us arrest 199
[41:43] people for auto theft last year
[41:46] and hate crimes dropped by 32%.
[41:47] I know each of you have
[41:52] specific areas of interest and
[41:52] we will discuss those in more
[41:53] detail.
[41:53] But it's important to take a
[41:57] moment to recognize what this
[41:58] data means for our city.
[41:59] I often say the public safety
[41:59] is a shared responsibility.
[42:03] It takes partnerships of all
[42:04] kinds to prevent and solve
[42:08] crime including working with
[42:09] all of your officers.
[42:14] We are better We are stronger
[42:14] and we are safer when we work
[42:15] together from all of our police
[42:19] officers and professional staff
[42:20] doing outstanding police work.
[42:20] To our business groups, our
[42:21] community groups and
[42:24] the various city departments
[42:25] like our fire department, our
[42:26] lifeguards, our park rangers,
[42:30] environmental services folks we
[42:35] all are collaborating and have
[42:35] contributed to a decrease for
[42:36] the last four years.
[42:37] It happened because the city
[42:41] works together.
[42:42] It happened because we all care
[42:42] deeply about the safety of our
[42:46] neighborhoods.
[42:47] And it happened because we are
[42:48] working efficiently and
[42:48] effectively alongside our
[42:49] communities.
[42:53] And with that I'd like to turn
[42:53] it over to Jordan Fankhauser
[42:54] from our Crime Analysis Unit to
[42:57] share the 2025 Crime stats
[42:57] report.
[42:57] Thank you.
[43:04] Good afternoon.
[43:05] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and
[43:05] members of City Council as
[43:06] chief mentioned and Jordan
[43:07] Fankhauser from the Sanford
[43:07] Police Department.
[43:08] I will be presenting the 2025
[43:09] crime stats for the city of San
[43:09] Diego.
[43:13] The statistics will be continue
[43:14] to be based on the national
[43:14] incident based reporting system
[43:18] or neighbors format as that is
[43:19] our official reporting standard
[43:19] to the fbi.
[43:20] The neighbors format allows
[43:20] crime statistics to be more
[43:24] comprehensive with additional
[43:24] crime categories and increased
[43:25] accuracy as they are no longer
[43:29] based on static monthly totals
[43:29] but are updated as cases are
[43:30] reported investigated over
[43:30] time.
[43:31] All right.
[43:35] Compared to 2024, overall crime
[43:36] is decreased 6.3% and crime
[43:41] clearances to just slightly up
[43:42] 2.7%.
[43:42] As a reminder, an fbi crime
[43:47] clearance constitutes an
[43:47] offense that has been closed by
[43:48] an arrest or some other
[43:49] exceptional means.
[43:52] For example, the offender was
[43:53] already serving a prison
[43:53] sentence for another crime.
[43:54] Looking at the five year trends
[43:58] for each category we can see
[43:59] the crimes against society
[43:59] experienced an increase in
[44:00] which we will go into more
[44:03] detail later.
[44:04] Most notably crimes against
[44:04] property has continued to track
[44:09] well below our recent trends.
[44:09] Crimes and crimes by category.
[44:10] This slide shows the year over
[44:14] year comparison for all three
[44:15] numbers Categories by volume as
[44:16] is typical of crimes against
[44:20] property accounts for the bulk
[44:20] of offenses and overall totals.
[44:21] Since these categories are
[44:22] still fairly new in California
[44:25] with respect to discussing
[44:26] crime statistics I'll briefly
[44:27] define them for familiarization
[44:27] going forward.
[44:32] Per the fbi crimes against
[44:32] persons for example murder,
[44:33] intimidation and assault are
[44:37] those whose victims are always
[44:37] individuals.
[44:38] The burglary the object of
[44:38] crimes against property for
[44:43] example robbery, bribery or
[44:43] burglary is to obtain money or
[44:44] some other some other benefit.
[44:48] And lastly crimes against
[44:48] society for example alcohol
[44:49] offenses, prostitution, drug
[44:54] violations, etc. Represent
[44:55] society's prohibition against
[44:55] engaging in certain types of
[44:56] activity And these are
[44:59] typically reflective of police
[44:59] enforcement actions of a
[45:06] specific offense.
[45:06] Numbers Crimes Clearances.
[45:07] This slide highlights
[45:07] the clearance rates of all
[45:09] three categories for both 2024
[45:10] 2025.
[45:10] As you can see all three
[45:11] categories remained relatively
[45:15] similar year over year.
[45:20] It's important to highlight
[45:21] the crimes against society
[45:22] tends to remain at an almost
[45:22] 100% clearance rate as
[45:23] the majority of the offenses in
[45:27] that category comprise of
[45:28] events in which an officer
[45:28] arrests an individual during
[45:29] the commission of the act.
[45:32] The most recent fbi data
[45:33] available which was in 2024
[45:36] shows a national average of
[45:37] 41.9% clearance rate for crimes
[45:41] against persons a 16.6 rate for
[45:45] crimes against property and a
[45:46] 35.7% rate for all categories
[45:51] Combined crimes against persons
[45:52] Overall our first category of
[45:53] crimes against persons was down
[45:53] 3% compared to 2020 For
[45:58] homicides which were down 19%.
[45:59] Comprised of 2027 confirmed
[46:03] murder investigations and 12
[46:03] traffic related offenses such
[46:04] as dui related manslaughter or
[46:08] hit and run.
[46:09] San Diego has not seen murder
[46:09] cases this low since 1968.
[46:14] Both aggravated assaults and
[46:14] non-fatal shootings have
[46:15] continued to see decreases.
[46:19] Notably a 96 non-fatal
[46:19] shootings for 2025.
[46:24] That is a 63% decrease since a
[46:24] recent spike in 2021.
[46:25] The kidnaping abduction
[46:28] category saw a decrease of 19%
[46:28] and was comprised mostly of
[46:29] offenses related to false
[46:30] imprisonment associated with
[46:34] domestic violence or other
[46:34] assault related events within
[46:35] the sexual assault category
[46:39] which saw an overall decrease
[46:40] of 7%.
[46:40] Rape accounts for approximately
[46:41] half of the offenses other than
[46:45] rape.
[46:46] The sexual assault category
[46:47] includes offenses such as
[46:47] forcible fondling or sexual
[46:48] battery.
[46:52] The 2025 clearance rate for
[46:53] crimes against persons at 49%
[46:55] was very similar to 2024 and
[46:55] was nearly 10% above
[47:02] the national average.
[47:03] Nonfatal shootings by council
[47:03] district.
[47:04] This chart highlights non-fatal
[47:06] shootings by council district
[47:07] for both 2024 and 2025.
[47:07] In 2025 nonfatal shootings
[47:12] decreased by 25 cases compared
[47:13] to 2024 with notable decreases
[47:18] across most of our districts.
[47:19] Crimes against property Our
[47:19] second category here shows a
[47:25] decrease of 12% overall.
[47:25] As a reminder robbery even
[47:26] though potentially violent in
[47:31] nature is classified as a crime
[47:31] against property as the fbi
[47:32] considers the intent of
[47:33] the crime to obtain property
[47:33] despite the presence of force
[47:37] or fear being used.
[47:37] Robbery was down again in 2025
[47:38] with 35% of offenses occurring
[47:43] while armed and only 4%
[47:43] involving carjackings.
[47:47] Typically robberies make up
[47:47] approximately 8%.
[47:48] Typically carjackings make up
[47:49] approximately 80% of all
[47:49] robberies.
[47:53] Overall.
[47:54] Total robberies have not been
[47:54] this low in San Diego since
[47:55] 1970.
[48:00] Both robberies from a structure
[48:01] and vehicle saw notable
[48:05] decreases in 2025 as well at
[48:05] 23% and 25% respectively.
[48:06] Following a trend with
[48:06] the robbery category.
[48:10] Robberies have not seen similar
[48:11] numbers in the city since 1959.
[48:12] Most notably continuing a
[48:17] significant downward trend for
[48:17] 2024.
[48:18] Motor vehicle theft experienced
[48:22] a 22% decrease citywide
[48:22] clearance rates for this
[48:23] category remained similar to
[48:24] the year prior at 13%, which
[48:24] was slightly below the most
[48:28] recent national average.
[48:29] Vehicle thefts by Council
[48:29] district.
[48:30] The chart represented on
[48:34] the slide depicts vehicle
[48:34] thefts by council district both
[48:35] years 2024 and 2025.
[48:40] As you can see all districts
[48:40] experienced decreases in
[48:41] vehicle thefts.
[48:42] It's notable that our southern
[48:42] border region and downtown are
[48:46] often the areas with
[48:47] the highest concentration of
[48:48] stolen vehicles citywide.
[48:48] However, there were significant
[48:51] decreases in both District
[48:52] three and 8 in 2025 accounting
[48:55] for a large portion of
[48:56] the overall 22% decrease.
[48:57] Vehicle thefts across the city
[49:00] have not been this low since
[49:00] 1972.
[49:01] Crimes against society are a
[49:06] diverse category depicted here
[49:07] as crimes against society.
[49:07] To reiterate from a previous
[49:08] slide.
[49:08] Crimes against society are
[49:11] generally offenses in which an
[49:12] individual is arrested during
[49:13] the condition of the act and
[49:14] are often a representation of
[49:18] enforcement actions taken by
[49:18] the department.
[49:19] Increases in offenses of this
[49:20] category do not immediately
[49:23] indicate an increase in
[49:24] criminal activity but instead
[49:24] increases in proactive
[49:25] enforcement by police agencies.
[49:29] Overall this category has seen
[49:30] a 6% increase over 2020 for
[49:31] the most significant increases
[49:36] to note in this category.
[49:36] Represented by both drug and
[49:37] narcotics and loitering
[49:37] offenses.
[49:40] Increased enforcement related
[49:41] to the late 2024 passing of
[49:42] Proposition 36 which
[49:42] strengthens penalties for
[49:47] repeat theft and drug offenses
[49:47] resulted in increases in both
[49:48] the drug narcotics category as
[49:49] well as significantly in
[49:52] loitering.
[49:53] The Department of Justice
[49:54] classifies the offense of
[49:54] loitering in a public place for
[49:58] illegal drug activities under
[49:58] this category.
[49:59] So while illegal lodging or
[50:03] curfew offenses MAY be present
[50:04] ,approximately 60% of
[50:04] loitering offenses are related
[50:05] to narcotics.
[50:05] Other categories of note
[50:09] include trespassing offenses
[50:10] increasing by 10% and alcohol
[50:11] violations experiencing 9%
[50:15] uptick primarily due to
[50:15] increases in dui arrests.
[50:16] As highlighted earlier, rates
[50:22] remain at close to the 100%
[50:22] mark for this category as
[50:23] majority of the offenses
[50:23] encompassed are enforcement
[50:25] related and the offenders are
[50:31] generally arrested at the scene
[50:31] .
[50:32] Crime categories by Council
[50:32] District.
[50:33] This slide highlights
[50:34] the overall nine crime numbers
[50:37] crime distribution by council
[50:38] district broken down into each
[50:39] crimes against category.
[50:39] As you can see crimes against
[50:43] property depicted in blue
[50:44] account for the majority of
[50:45] offenses in to each district.
[50:45] All of the districts are
[50:49] decreasing overall crime
[50:50] depicted by the percent change
[50:51] at the top of each column as
[50:54] compared to 2020 For historical
[50:59] crime rate comparison since
[51:00] 2025 was only the fourth year
[51:01] in a row of decreased overall
[51:05] crime since 2021 but one of
[51:05] Hallmark numbers and key
[51:06] categories we find it important
[51:07] to display a slightly more
[51:10] macro view of crime in the city
[51:11] Since we began collecting
[51:11] uniform crime reporting
[51:12] statistics back in 1954.
[51:16] Historical comparison purposes
[51:17] We're using the older
[51:17] definitions of violent property
[51:18] crime.
[51:21] In this case we're looking at
[51:21] rates per 1000 individuals at
[51:22] five year intervals.
[51:26] As you can see following
[51:27] the severe uptick in
[51:27] the property crime rate in
[51:28] the 1970s primarily driven by
[51:32] increases in larceny and a
[51:33] smaller increases in violent
[51:34] crime that year that both crime
[51:34] rates peaked around 1990.
[51:39] Following the early 90s for
[51:40] property crime, the violent
[51:41] crime gradually returned a rate
[51:43] similar to what we were
[51:44] experiencing in the 1950s and
[51:44] 1970s respectively.
[51:45] It's important to note that
[51:46] the population of San Diego has
[51:50] tripled since those decades
[51:50] ago.
[51:51] Yet we remain at decreased
[51:55] overall crime rates highlighted
[51:56] highlighted in this letter gang
[51:57] specific stats for both 2024
[51:57] and 2025 depicting crime
[52:02] activity by Category and total
[52:03] documented gang members while
[52:03] overall crimes committed by
[52:07] known gang members have seen a
[52:07] 13% decrease.
[52:08] Specifically violent gang
[52:08] activity has increased arrests
[52:11] of documented gang members has
[52:17] also increased by 20%.
[52:18] Hate crimes There were 41
[52:18] confirmed hate crimes last year
[52:22] in the city of San Diego a 32%
[52:23] decrease from 2024.
[52:23] Hate crimes with an
[52:28] anti-transgender anti-racist
[52:29] and or sexual orientation have
[52:30] all all decreased.
[52:33] Most notably a 46% reduction in
[52:34] sexual orientation based hate
[52:34] crimes.
[52:39] Anti-Racist crimes are
[52:40] comprised of one incident per
[52:40] race group with the exception
[52:41] of anti-White.
[52:43] The remaining four incidents
[52:44] were mixed racial biases
[52:44] Anti-religious crimes
[52:45] experienced a significant
[52:50] increase throughout the early
[52:50] months of the year with a
[52:51] severe series of vandalism
[52:52] focused on religious
[52:55] institutions in the central
[52:56] Division of San Diego.
[52:56] These acts appear to be
[52:57] randomly targeting religious
[52:58] institutions in general and not
[53:01] any one particular denomination
[53:02] following the series earlier in
[53:03] the year anti-religious hate
[53:08] crimes continue to trend
[53:08] similar to what has been
[53:09] observed in previous years as
[53:13] youngest leads doing this
[53:13] presentation.
[53:14] Overall crime in 2025 decreased
[53:14] compared to 2024 with
[53:18] significant declines across
[53:19] major categories.
[53:20] These decreases are in line
[53:20] with the national trend amongst
[53:24] major many major cities in
[53:25] the United States during this
[53:25] past year.
[53:26] The city of San Diego not only
[53:26] continues to experience
[53:31] decreased crime overall but
[53:31] consistently demonstrates some
[53:32] of the lowest violent crime
[53:33] rates among major U.S. Cities.
[53:36] This concludes our presentation
[53:37] this time of year for any
[53:37] questions.
[53:37] Thank you.
[53:38] All right.
[53:38] Thank you very much for
[53:39] the presentation.
[53:43] Clerk Please proceed with
[53:43] public comment.
[53:44] >> Thank you.
[53:44] Council PRESIDENT.
[53:45] We have some speakers here in
[53:48] council chambers as well as
[53:49] participating online and we
[53:50] will be going to a minute and a
[53:56] half each starting with pastors
[53:57] and a if you can please come up
[53:57] to the microphone.
[53:58] Now the following individuals
[53:59] can please come up to the other
[54:02] reserved seats.
[54:02] Robert Antivirals.
[54:03] Dennis Friedlander.
[54:07] Denise Friedman Blair Beckerman
[54:08] ,Scott Chipman and Bob Casas
[54:08] Kim.
[54:12] Pastor you can have a minute
[54:13] and a half.
[54:14] Please proceed when ready.
[54:14] Thank you.
[54:15] It's a great honor and
[54:19] privilege to be here before
[54:19] the council.
[54:20] And our collaboration of crime
[54:26] stats going down We have
[54:26] the philosophy that it truly
[54:27] takes a village to raise a
[54:31] child And with our wraparound
[54:31] partners I represent
[54:32] the Commission on Gang
[54:32] Prevention and Intervention.
[54:36] And one of the things
[54:37] the feedback that I get from
[54:37] other pastors in other cities
[54:42] how do you guys keep crime down
[54:43] being that you're sandwiched
[54:47] between Tijuana which is a one
[54:48] of the cartel capitals and Los
[54:48] Angeles, the gang capital of
[54:49] the world?
[54:53] How do you guys keep it down?
[54:53] Number one is we have
[54:54] the philosophy that those that
[54:55] used to be part of the problem
[54:59] are now part of the solution.
[55:00] So we have what we called
[55:01] credible messengers or lived
[55:05] experience Former gang members
[55:05] that served time in prison and
[55:06] now they're back out in
[55:07] the community building rapport.
[55:11] They already have credibility
[55:12] in their communities, community
[55:13] leaders but being strength
[55:14] based using their what they
[55:17] used to use for negativity, not
[55:18] for positivity.
[55:18] We have guys like behind me
[55:19] Rudy who has a criminal history
[55:24] really long criminal history.
[55:25] Robert Different guys.
[55:25] It's their testimony.
[55:29] It's not saying that teaching
[55:30] them but we also have faith
[55:31] based leaders Cashbox Community
[55:35] Assistance support teams and
[55:36] faith based leaders, community
[55:36] based organizations.
[55:41] We do walk in with the No Shots
[55:42] fired and other community
[55:42] organizations like Community
[55:47] Wrap around Youth empowerment,
[55:48] open heart leaders.
[55:48] And so it takes a village and
[55:53] the chief has been a champion
[55:54] of this and every one of you as
[55:55] well have been a champion in
[55:55] this And thank you for having
[56:01] representation from your from
[56:02] your district active in
[56:03] the Commission on Gang
[56:03] Prevention origin Sorry for
[56:06] going over comments One of our
[56:07] website owners will be going
[56:07] over to get an additional
[56:08] speakers up for them Ceding
[56:12] time to you.
[56:13] Thank you Robert Motivate us to
[56:18] find a way for two seconds he
[56:19] takes a no no no Please
[56:19] proceed.
[56:24] I thank you for having us here.
[56:25] My name is Robert on with
[56:25] Community Wraparound and I'm
[56:26] here with my team and we're
[56:29] here in support of the crime
[56:29] stats to support you.
[56:30] I know when you first came on
[56:34] in the role he had had a vision
[56:35] that he shared and I could be a
[56:36] witness to that vision because
[56:36] it's coming to fruition.
[56:41] I've seen it where boots on
[56:41] the ground as little experience
[56:42] mentorship our organization
[56:47] it's getting prevention
[56:47] intervention.
[56:48] That's what we specialize in
[56:48] And so I just here to support
[56:49] you Wall and everything you're
[56:53] doing and just want to keep
[56:54] that going.
[56:54] We always say it's it's it's
[56:58] not enough but you know what
[56:59] It's a working in progress And
[57:00] so we just need to keep going
[57:01] and working together And just
[57:05] like our pastor said that it
[57:05] does take a village it takes
[57:06] all of us to come together to
[57:11] in order to get things done.
[57:11] And so with the collaboration
[57:12] with cpd, with also the vision
[57:17] he shared with the youth
[57:17] Central services that he also
[57:18] brought on, we've been working
[57:19] in collaboration with them as
[57:23] well and just an example of
[57:23] the collaboration of working
[57:24] together is not arresting and
[57:29] taking youth into custody right
[57:29] away.
[57:30] They call us to be able to find
[57:31] out and figure out a way before
[57:31] taking that you can take
[57:32] custody.
[57:35] So that's just one of
[57:36] the examples of
[57:36] the collaboration the work that
[57:37] we're doing together.
[57:38] So thank you so much.
[57:39] Thank you very much.
[57:40] >> Thanks for your time.
[57:46] Let's go.
[57:51] >> Well, yes, I'm the honorary
[57:52] mayor apb.
[57:53] And I've gotten here because of
[57:53] this man.
[57:57] He got me involved with
[57:58] the community policing and
[58:03] working in my community and now
[58:04] spreading it out through all of
[58:05] San Diego.
[58:09] And I have worked with these
[58:09] groups too.
[58:10] I'm proud of everything that
[58:16] has been accomplished.
[58:17] I support you 100% And to all
[58:18] the members of our beach
[58:22] communities not just P.B. But
[58:22] Claremont.
[58:28] Ocean Beach Mission Beach.
[58:28] La Hoya.
[58:29] We all proudly support your
[58:29] work and we look forward to
[58:34] working with you this year.
[58:35] So the crime statistics are
[58:35] even lower next year.
[58:36] Thank you.
[58:37] Thank you.
[58:45] Claire Beekman.
[58:46] >> After Blair Mcmenemy Scott
[58:46] Chipman and then Bob because
[58:50] was All right.
[58:50] Thank you.
[58:55] Thanks a lot for this item.
[58:56] It's really timely and helpful
[58:56] and important.
[58:57] We have a lot of national
[59:01] security issues at this time.
[59:02] It's nice that this item is
[59:03] here and we can have a
[59:06] community conversation on
[59:07] the intersection between
[59:08] national security crime issues,
[59:08] how we're going to work on
[59:13] these issues at this kind of
[59:13] fragile time.
[59:14] Um good item.
[59:19] Uh, nice to hear It's now been
[59:19] four years of really reducing
[59:25] crime in San Diego in cities
[59:25] across the state if not
[59:26] the country.
[59:30] These are practices that we've
[59:31] started in the previous Biden
[59:32] administration basically And
[59:33] we've been trying to explain to
[59:37] Trump that we have a good thing
[59:37] going here.
[59:38] You don't have to like
[59:42] overwhelm an already good
[59:43] situation we're building.
[59:44] So thank you for this work and
[59:44] effort.
[59:48] It is with four years now of
[59:48] continual good practices I hope
[59:49] we can really look into
[59:53] the ideas of responsible
[59:54] technology.
[59:54] I know you guys have a
[59:54] philosophy.
[59:55] We all do.
[1:00:00] If it ain't broke don't fix it
[1:00:00] or Yeah I ain't broke.
[1:00:01] Don't fix it.
[1:00:02] And so I'm sure you want to
[1:00:05] keep moving on in the same
[1:00:06] momentum but I think it's
[1:00:06] really important as good
[1:00:07] progressive practices we have
[1:00:12] to be considering the concepts
[1:00:12] of responsible surveillance
[1:00:13] technology and not a bit more
[1:00:14] of tech And we have
[1:00:18] the capability to ask those
[1:00:18] questions.
[1:00:19] >> I hope in this coming year
[1:00:20] we can be talking about those
[1:00:20] good things.
[1:00:23] Thank you.
[1:00:24] >> Thank you, Scott Chipman And
[1:00:25] I believe somebody was eating
[1:00:30] your time for this but then we
[1:00:31] went back okay, I don't need it
[1:00:31] for this.
[1:00:32] I'm here also to congratulate
[1:00:36] the chief and his staff.
[1:00:36] Excellent work.
[1:00:37] It should be noted that they're
[1:00:42] running at about 10% down from
[1:00:47] the budgeted number of officers
[1:00:47] .
[1:00:48] And I also noted and had an
[1:00:49] opportunity to speak briefly
[1:00:53] with him about the increase in
[1:00:54] drug and alcohol crime.
[1:00:55] Should be noted that if you
[1:00:59] want to bring DUIs to near zero
[1:01:00] just stop enforcing.
[1:01:00] Don't look for them.
[1:01:04] Don't do any saturation patrols
[1:01:05] ,don't do any dui checkpoints.
[1:01:06] And he assured me that
[1:01:07] the reason things are going up
[1:01:11] is because we're getting more
[1:01:12] enforcement on those issues.
[1:01:16] So this is obviously an
[1:01:17] indication that the city and
[1:01:18] the citizens who've promoted
[1:01:23] Chief Wall made a great choice.
[1:01:24] We look forward to the future
[1:01:24] and doing even better in
[1:01:25] the future.
[1:01:29] There's no community that
[1:01:29] supports the police any more
[1:01:30] than Pacific Beach And so
[1:01:35] congratulations.
[1:01:36] >> Next is Bob because you if
[1:01:37] you can please come up to
[1:01:43] the podium.
[1:01:44] >> I'd like to add on to
[1:01:45] Scott's comment that one way to
[1:01:48] reduce crime is to simply not
[1:01:49] report it.
[1:01:50] I'm not going to address
[1:01:50] the statute while because this
[1:01:51] is something that happened
[1:01:55] before his term and I don't
[1:01:56] believe he's responsible for
[1:01:56] it.
[1:01:57] But I do want to share my own
[1:02:00] experience trying to report a
[1:02:01] crime that I encountered here
[1:02:02] in San Diego a number of years
[1:02:02] ago.
[1:02:07] I was assaulted repeatedly by
[1:02:08] the son of a former police
[1:02:08] officer.
[1:02:09] David Gelb was the police
[1:02:14] officer and son was Gabriel
[1:02:14] Gelb.
[1:02:15] I went directly to the Northern
[1:02:18] Division and stood there and
[1:02:19] tried to fill out a police
[1:02:20] report asked to do so And I was
[1:02:25] told please go out, wait in
[1:02:26] your car and we'll send an
[1:02:27] officer out to take your
[1:02:27] report.
[1:02:28] Now I thought that was a little
[1:02:31] strange but after about an hour
[1:02:31] of waiting at the end of
[1:02:35] the day I kind of figured no
[1:02:36] one was coming out and they did
[1:02:36] not take that police report.
[1:02:42] I went back again and again and
[1:02:42] until I brought my lawyer with
[1:02:43] me they refused to take a
[1:02:47] report on Gabriel Jeff the son
[1:02:47] of danger.
[1:02:48] Now I know that there's got to
[1:02:49] be camaraderie in the force and
[1:02:50] I know you guys do a dangerous
[1:02:54] job but please recognize that
[1:02:54] part of the problem is that
[1:02:55] your officers are sometimes not
[1:02:58] taking reports against other
[1:02:58] officers.
[1:03:05] Thank you.
[1:03:05] Thank you.
[1:03:06] That does conclude public
[1:03:07] comment here in council
[1:03:07] chambers.
[1:03:08] I'm starting those that are
[1:03:08] participating remotely.
[1:03:11] We have seven speakers in
[1:03:11] the queue starting with
[1:03:12] Catherine Douglas.
[1:03:17] If you can please unmute.
[1:03:17] Good afternoon.
[1:03:18] This crime breaking report from
[1:03:18] 2025 is beyond impressive.
[1:03:23] Chief Paul along with his
[1:03:23] entire hardworking team
[1:03:24] delivered these results through
[1:03:28] precision based policing that
[1:03:28] focused efforts on quick
[1:03:29] apprehension and solving
[1:03:30] violent crimes.
[1:03:35] The use of game changing
[1:03:35] technology such as smart street
[1:03:36] lights and automated license
[1:03:40] plate readers helped officers
[1:03:40] apprehend suspects faster,
[1:03:46] preventing subsequent offenses
[1:03:46] and by fostering a
[1:03:47] collaborative partnership with
[1:03:48] the communities they serve.
[1:03:52] One great example of this is
[1:03:56] the Shots Fired initiative and
[1:03:56] the group that spoke first
[1:03:57] today in chambers.
[1:03:57] I met them at the press
[1:03:58] conference last week.
[1:04:03] They're an amazing group of
[1:04:03] people.
[1:04:04] Well done Chief and team
[1:04:04] policing is a demanding job at
[1:04:09] our pd team has clearly done a
[1:04:10] spectacular job and deserves
[1:04:14] both our praise and support.
[1:04:15] Public safety is the number one
[1:04:15] responsibility of government.
[1:04:16] Please support our police
[1:04:20] department and the f y 27
[1:04:21] budget to continue this trend
[1:04:25] for the safety of every single
[1:04:25] one of us.
[1:04:25] Thank you.
[1:04:26] Thank you.
[1:04:26] Next is 8700 if you can please.
[1:04:31] Um you After that the original
[1:04:31] 8700 star six.
[1:04:38] Thank you.
[1:04:38] Joy said you had a cd three.
[1:04:39] Thank you, Chief Wall and
[1:04:43] the rest of the cpd for
[1:04:48] building more trust in how safe
[1:04:49] we feel in San Diego.
[1:04:49] That's a big deal.
[1:04:50] Thank you.
[1:04:55] And the crime decreased again
[1:05:00] this time by 6.3%.
[1:05:01] Another big thank you.
[1:05:01] Now I'm going to tweet my
[1:05:05] comments to get I had a lot to
[1:05:06] say but it changed because of
[1:05:07] the public speakers just now in
[1:05:07] the chamber.
[1:05:12] But I'll start with this.
[1:05:17] My like from the offense table
[1:05:18] was clearance rate.
[1:05:18] Oh skip that, Skip that.
[1:05:22] Anyway, I had a question about
[1:05:23] the district attorney not
[1:05:29] issuing criminal charges.
[1:05:30] And I wonder what percentage
[1:05:30] that is And I wonder how she
[1:05:31] was helping those people that
[1:05:35] she was in charge.
[1:05:36] So what happened is the public
[1:05:36] speakers the first, second and
[1:05:41] third I believe I hope they're
[1:05:42] still there in the chamber
[1:05:42] because I love them so much.
[1:05:47] I honor their courage.
[1:05:47] It's just tremendous what
[1:05:48] they've done with their lives.
[1:05:49] Thank you for coming and
[1:05:53] sharing with us.
[1:05:54] And I just want you to know
[1:05:54] gang prevention and that
[1:05:59] violence is so critical And I
[1:06:00] was shocked to find out that it
[1:06:00] goes to family.
[1:06:00] It's a legacy.
[1:06:05] It's a generation thing that is
[1:06:06] passed on and expected.
[1:06:06] So what you did with your time
[1:06:11] was completed.
[1:06:12] >> My apologies the original if
[1:06:12] you can please unmute and then
[1:06:13] it's the gambler.
[1:06:17] I'd like to give a warm handoff
[1:06:17] to this of this propaganda
[1:06:18] update.
[1:06:18] Stephen Whitburn.
[1:06:22] I find it very egregious
[1:06:23] because there are many things
[1:06:24] that are not being reported
[1:06:25] especially in Tent City because
[1:06:28] dreams for Change is actually
[1:06:29] telling participants not to
[1:06:30] report the sexual assaults that
[1:06:35] are taking place.
[1:06:36] The police sit and watch people
[1:06:36] do that and all you guys get
[1:06:37] people pipes and needles and
[1:06:40] tests to test their drugs to
[1:06:41] make sure it's not.
[1:06:42] Then you also give them Narcan.
[1:06:42] You're penalizing and
[1:06:46] criminalizing homelessness
[1:06:47] because you guys have nowhere
[1:06:47] to put them.
[1:06:48] Fentanyl is being distributed
[1:06:52] throughout Tent City and being
[1:06:53] done again right in front of
[1:06:53] officers on the street.
[1:06:58] And you can find little pieces
[1:06:59] of foil all over the place
[1:07:00] something that's potentially
[1:07:00] dangerous even for the animals
[1:07:05] that are just walking there or
[1:07:06] potentially a child if they
[1:07:07] wanted to pick it up and then
[1:07:07] all of a sudden overdose.
[1:07:08] So and then when you have
[1:07:11] the police who MAY or MAY not
[1:07:12] take in a report, they actually
[1:07:13] have the discretion to do
[1:07:17] whatever they want.
[1:07:18] So we have children that are
[1:07:19] being kidnaped on a regular
[1:07:19] basis.
[1:07:22] There is a massive pedophilia
[1:07:23] problem within the gay
[1:07:24] community within just children
[1:07:29] in general being targeted in
[1:07:29] San Diego.
[1:07:30] It is very disturbing to see
[1:07:31] these kinds of things take
[1:07:36] place where you guys want to
[1:07:36] paint a pretty picture that San
[1:07:37] Diego is a safe place.
[1:07:41] That is not true especially
[1:07:42] when you guys are
[1:07:42] the gatekeepers of being able
[1:07:48] to do any kind of pushing of
[1:07:48] criminal activity or stopping
[1:07:49] it.
[1:07:49] >> Thank you.
[1:07:50] Your time is concluded
[1:07:50] The gambler if you can please.
[1:07:51] I'm you.
[1:07:51] And then after that is there
[1:07:57] any Casco you guys doing today?
[1:08:03] i mixed feelings on that but
[1:08:03] primarily how much of
[1:08:09] the reduction I did I like
[1:08:10] the fact that there's more
[1:08:11] police out of there and I
[1:08:11] notice that they're a little
[1:08:12] bit more active than they used
[1:08:14] to be.
[1:08:15] But what did that come to
[1:08:16] Because the guys refused to do
[1:08:17] things for years and years and
[1:08:20] years even on the streets that
[1:08:20] people really got killed.
[1:08:25] So many people died in the last
[1:08:26] four years because they chose
[1:08:27] to look away And matter of fact
[1:08:31] you have no backing by you by
[1:08:32] the people sitting in this
[1:08:37] court like anything from
[1:08:38] throwing you under the bus They
[1:08:38] would be That's a bad friggin
[1:08:44] reality that we're faced with
[1:08:44] today.
[1:08:49] It is that people have full
[1:08:50] control over our elections very
[1:08:50] easily.
[1:08:51] >> Anyone could go in and
[1:08:54] register anyone and vote for
[1:08:55] them.
[1:08:55] There is no real checks and
[1:08:56] balances and the Clinton
[1:09:00] initiative is not going to pass
[1:09:01] So we're going to be stuck in
[1:09:02] that situation.
[1:09:02] So what if it's just a
[1:09:07] temporary retreat And then if
[1:09:08] you actually do something, are
[1:09:08] you going to be prosecuted
[1:09:13] immediately after Because
[1:09:13] that's politically just I mean
[1:09:14] right now would you go against
[1:09:18] all of our money problem very
[1:09:19] easily by adopting Julian
[1:09:20] Brown's technology deal?
[1:09:23] Oh no, because you make more
[1:09:24] money personally if you go
[1:09:25] ahead and go along with
[1:09:25] the game because they're going
[1:09:30] to go ahead and suppress and
[1:09:31] control inventors.
[1:09:31] >> Right.
[1:09:32] Your time has concluded.
[1:09:38] Ernie Pascoe, if you can please
[1:09:39] a mute after that assuming
[1:09:39] the five minute timer has also
[1:09:40] concluded there were three
[1:09:41] speakers in the queue no
[1:09:42] additional speakers will be
[1:09:42] taken.
[1:09:42] Please proceed.
[1:09:47] Her name Casco Laurie resident
[1:09:48] Torrey Pines Bladder Port are
[1:09:49] reporting serious allegations
[1:09:53] to the real estate taxes
[1:09:54] department and directly to you
[1:09:55] Joe LaCava office at Torrey
[1:09:59] Pines Cloud Report Where are
[1:10:00] the police reports?
[1:10:00] I refused to surrender my
[1:10:01] freedom under threat of
[1:10:04] violence.
[1:10:05] This is a negligent homicide
[1:10:06] and attempted murder case
[1:10:06] workplace violence or wrongful
[1:10:11] termination Assault over
[1:10:11] the death of a pilot.
[1:10:12] It was attempted murder in
[1:10:16] retaliation by switching my
[1:10:17] wing that collapsed in
[1:10:18] mid-flight crashing on a
[1:10:18] rooftop.
[1:10:19] My home was invaded twice Then
[1:10:22] I was poisoned with a deadly
[1:10:23] biohazard.
[1:10:23] This is an ongoing hate crime
[1:10:28] that needs to stop No citizen
[1:10:29] should have their life under
[1:10:29] threat or die over
[1:10:30] the commercialization of a
[1:10:30] public park.
[1:10:35] It's time to stop the crime
[1:10:35] With the permanent
[1:10:36] reinstatement of Torrey Pines
[1:10:37] Blade Port Advisory Board and
[1:10:41] the immediate implementation of
[1:10:41] the proposed San Diego
[1:10:42] recreational waiver as a proven
[1:10:47] solution to end the dispute and
[1:10:47] addresses the victims and
[1:10:48] witnesses.
[1:10:48] The heavy damage by Torrey
[1:10:52] Pines Glider Port negligent
[1:10:52] operation It's a win for city
[1:10:53] council liabilities and
[1:10:58] restores recreational rights
[1:10:59] and freedoms for years to come
[1:11:00] to what it originally was.
[1:11:00] >> Thank you.
[1:11:06] Thank you.
[1:11:06] >> Next Zoom user if you
[1:11:07] complete a new or final speaker
[1:11:08] will be Joshua Williamson same
[1:11:10] user.
[1:11:11] Thanks for taking my call.
[1:11:12] The Sector a shout out to
[1:11:16] the good Lord Jesus for not
[1:11:17] turning his back on us and
[1:11:22] having those guys step forward
[1:11:23] and take care of business in
[1:11:23] our neighborhood.
[1:11:28] They're doing great.
[1:11:29] Well the last four years under
[1:11:29] Biden and under our own
[1:11:34] government it was legal to
[1:11:35] steal 950 bucks a day from
[1:11:35] anybody.
[1:11:40] Just walk in and take it.
[1:11:41] You know, that was just
[1:11:41] criminal bad.
[1:11:42] I think the reason everything
[1:11:45] down is because Trump took over
[1:11:46] and it's getting hard core now
[1:11:47] to break a crime You need some
[1:11:52] other stat statistics of ice
[1:11:52] deportations and say how many
[1:11:58] criminals were deported That
[1:11:58] wasn't on stats.
[1:11:59] That takes a lot of the bad
[1:12:03] guys out of here Now they know
[1:12:04] that it's going to be more guys
[1:12:05] they're looking for and stuff
[1:12:05] with ice to get them out of
[1:12:11] here and it's going to get real
[1:12:12] When you go to the drug dealers
[1:12:15] they kill people just like in
[1:12:15] Tijuana They had 50 car bombs
[1:12:16] just a while ago so it could
[1:12:17] become up to San Diego.
[1:12:20] But who knows?
[1:12:21] It's going to get it's going to
[1:12:22] get worse before it gets
[1:12:22] better.
[1:12:23] But the guys are making a
[1:12:27] difference with the good Lord
[1:12:28] on their side there It's got to
[1:12:32] be plus good luck in the next
[1:12:33] year.
[1:12:34] So when ice shows up again our
[1:12:34] court it really gets it's going
[1:12:38] to be pretty exciting to get
[1:12:39] everybody deported.
[1:12:39] It'll be great.
[1:12:42] Thank you.
[1:12:43] Our final speaker is Joshua
[1:12:43] Williamson.
[1:12:43] Please.
[1:12:49] I knew Josh I kind of knew for
[1:12:50] you a pop up should have come
[1:12:59] up.
[1:13:07] I will have to.
[1:13:07] She seems to have dropped.
[1:13:08] I would like to know for
[1:13:09] the record that the time I did
[1:13:11] receive three comments in favor
[1:13:12] and zero comment in opposition
[1:13:13] of your comment form which has
[1:13:17] been distributed to the Council
[1:13:17] .
[1:13:18] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[1:13:18] right.
[1:13:18] Thank you.
[1:13:19] City Clerk As a reminder this
[1:13:23] is an informational item and no
[1:13:24] motions required.
[1:13:24] We'll turn it over to council
[1:13:25] member for questions and
[1:13:26] comments and we'll start with
[1:13:30] Council member by the Chair of
[1:13:31] our Public Safety Committee.
[1:13:32] Thank you Council PRESIDENT In
[1:13:35] the Thank you Chief and thank
[1:13:36] you to the entire department
[1:13:36] and for the presentation today
[1:13:41] Thank you to the community for
[1:13:42] coming out.
[1:13:43] It is good news that we are
[1:13:48] down once again in crime across
[1:13:48] our city making us feel
[1:13:49] the safest, largest city in
[1:13:50] America which is no easy feat
[1:13:54] And these results don't happen
[1:13:54] by accident.
[1:13:55] They are the result of
[1:13:56] the dedication of our officers
[1:13:56] the strong leadership,
[1:13:59] the politicians investments we
[1:14:00] made in the city and in
[1:14:00] the city council.
[1:14:01] But it's also the result of our
[1:14:05] community's public safety and
[1:14:06] community effort and our
[1:14:07] officers actually rely on
[1:14:07] building trust with
[1:14:12] the community to make us safer
[1:14:13] which is also why oversight,
[1:14:13] transparency and building
[1:14:14] community trust is just as
[1:14:18] important as making sure we
[1:14:19] have highly trained officers
[1:14:20] able to show up to nine month
[1:14:20] hold on time.
[1:14:24] I want to thank all of our
[1:14:25] partners from the Commission on
[1:14:26] Prevention.
[1:14:26] Thank you for being here,
[1:14:27] Pastor.
[1:14:30] Your words are very beautiful.
[1:14:31] I appreciate the work you're
[1:14:31] doing and I want to thank
[1:14:32] Senior You Services and other
[1:14:33] nonprofits who are helping out.
[1:14:36] I want to thank also new shots
[1:14:37] Fired who came into our public
[1:14:38] safety committee last week to
[1:14:42] tell us about the incredible
[1:14:43] gang interruption violence work
[1:14:43] they are doing including one of
[1:14:44] their members was actually shot
[1:14:48] this past year in the middle of
[1:14:49] trying to interrupt more gun
[1:14:50] prevention and gun violence
[1:14:54] prevention here I want to thank
[1:14:54] our gun ban prevention team or
[1:14:55] ghost gun task force as well as
[1:14:56] the folks getting gun violence
[1:15:00] restraining orders.
[1:15:01] We can prevent mass shootings
[1:15:01] in this country.
[1:15:05] We have seen it in our school
[1:15:06] district.
[1:15:06] If you report something our
[1:15:07] police will take it seriously
[1:15:08] and get guns out of dangerous
[1:15:12] situations.
[1:15:12] So please keep reporting
[1:15:13] things.
[1:15:13] I also want to thank our
[1:15:17] neighbors representative police
[1:15:18] such as our 9 million
[1:15:19] dispatchers who have incredibly
[1:15:19] hard jobs to hear victims
[1:15:23] calling for help and ensuring
[1:15:24] that our officers have
[1:15:24] the information they need to
[1:15:25] get there on time.
[1:15:28] If you ever want to go see how
[1:15:29] hard our 911 dispatchers work
[1:15:29] with information coming at them
[1:15:30] from four different screens or
[1:15:31] calling hearing the victim
[1:15:34] there talking to the police
[1:15:35] officers on the street as
[1:15:36] they're getting there.
[1:15:36] It is incredibly hard work that
[1:15:37] they do.
[1:15:40] I want to thank our ask Me 127
[1:15:41] workers who are the mechanics,
[1:15:42] for example, to keep our cars
[1:15:42] running and keep our equipment
[1:15:47] functioning and the civilian
[1:15:47] staff from our retired senior
[1:15:48] volunteer positions, our peace
[1:15:52] officers, the clerical staff
[1:15:53] who do the purchase orders to
[1:15:53] make sure that our equipment is
[1:15:54] actually purchased and funded
[1:15:55] for our police department.
[1:15:58] We have so many city employees
[1:15:59] who have their hands on public
[1:15:59] safety and I want to thank all
[1:16:03] of them.
[1:16:04] I also want to thank most
[1:16:05] importantly our cpd officers
[1:16:10] who every day put their lives
[1:16:10] on the line On Valentine's Day
[1:16:11] a Saturday night I actually
[1:16:16] went on a ride along and I saw
[1:16:17] one of the most tragic things
[1:16:17] I've seen in my lifetime And I
[1:16:21] served in the Peace Corps in
[1:16:22] the aids crisis in Africa.
[1:16:23] I have seen a lot of children
[1:16:28] buried but we saw an a horrible
[1:16:28] stabbing on the street downtown
[1:16:29] actually Councilor Oliver's
[1:16:32] district the victim did not
[1:16:33] survive.
[1:16:34] You know, by the time I got
[1:16:34] there the suspect had then fled
[1:16:39] inside the apartment building
[1:16:40] and hid with his unit on fire
[1:16:41] trying to burn the apartment
[1:16:41] down.
[1:16:42] So I was able to witness almost
[1:16:45] all of the apparatus the city
[1:16:46] funds from our police cars, our
[1:16:47] party response team, our
[1:16:47] ambulances.
[1:16:51] I now understand why automated
[1:16:52] cpr machines are so important.
[1:16:57] I saw the tower ladder come
[1:16:57] from the fire department.
[1:16:58] I could not believe that this
[1:17:02] is what one incident required
[1:17:03] And then I saw the resilience
[1:17:03] of the witnesses who witnessed
[1:17:04] the unfortunate stabbing and
[1:17:08] they waited in the cold late
[1:17:09] hours of the night just to for
[1:17:10] the homicide team to arrive and
[1:17:15] take their statements So there
[1:17:15] are brave civilians in the city
[1:17:16] who are willing to stand up and
[1:17:17] talk about what they saw every
[1:17:17] day.
[1:17:18] And I want to thank everybody
[1:17:20] who's brave enough to come
[1:17:20] forward.
[1:17:21] But I do have some questions as
[1:17:25] well.
[1:17:26] In addition to all the great
[1:17:27] work we are doing with our
[1:17:27] department, there's also time
[1:17:32] that we can improve And so we
[1:17:32] also need to continue training.
[1:17:33] And so I want to know Chief,
[1:17:34] can you tell us about how you
[1:17:38] actually increasing training to
[1:17:39] make sure that we don't use
[1:17:40] excessive force and incidents
[1:17:40] as we responded properly?
[1:17:43] I know you're rethinking our
[1:17:44] training program so I'd love
[1:17:45] you to tell everybody about it.
[1:17:46] So thank you for that question.
[1:17:49] Councilmember First let me
[1:17:50] start by saying police training
[1:17:53] across the country is one of
[1:17:53] the first things that gets cut
[1:17:54] during tough budget times.
[1:17:55] I'm very proud to say working
[1:17:58] with my staff we have not cut
[1:17:59] training since I started as
[1:18:04] police chief.
[1:18:05] But to be open to transparent
[1:18:06] our training is not enough.
[1:18:06] We need to increase and do more
[1:18:10] as this world becomes more and
[1:18:10] more complex As crime trends
[1:18:11] begin to change we need to be
[1:18:15] more adaptive.
[1:18:16] One of the first things I did
[1:18:17] was I changed over the entire
[1:18:17] chain of command in our
[1:18:21] training division with
[1:18:22] the intent to redesign our
[1:18:26] training program.
[1:18:27] We lacked a leader, a true
[1:18:28] leadership development unit and
[1:18:33] a true leadership development
[1:18:34] program.
[1:18:34] It's one of my top three
[1:18:35] priorities to develop inspiring
[1:18:36] leaders that people love to
[1:18:39] come to work for And I can lead
[1:18:40] this this city into the future.
[1:18:44] I'm proud to say that that we
[1:18:45] have that leadership
[1:18:46] development unit in place and
[1:18:46] the leadership programs are
[1:18:50] beginning not just for the top
[1:18:51] part of our organization but
[1:18:51] for our frontline police
[1:18:52] officers.
[1:18:52] Detectives are professional
[1:18:56] staff all the way up to the top
[1:18:57] of this organization.
[1:19:01] Additionally, we just last
[1:19:02] month started to build training
[1:19:06] teams.
[1:19:07] Our training cycles have for
[1:19:13] decades have extended for an 18
[1:19:13] month cycle back in the 90 and
[1:19:14] early 2000s when the world
[1:19:18] wasn't spinning as fast as it
[1:19:18] is today, that 18 month cycle
[1:19:19] was sufficient But in today's
[1:19:27] world we see trends or
[1:19:27] different types of situations
[1:19:28] that we're facing in
[1:19:33] the streets and we need to
[1:19:33] adapt our training.
[1:19:34] So we now have two field
[1:19:37] training teams that are working
[1:19:37] seven days a week.
[1:19:38] They're going out to lineups
[1:19:39] instead of having a longer
[1:19:39] duration of training.
[1:19:43] It's shorter, more frequent
[1:19:44] with high repetition and we're
[1:19:48] able to change the training
[1:19:49] scenarios overnight.
[1:19:52] So we went from an 18 month
[1:19:53] cycle to an overnight pivot
[1:19:58] which is taking an aircraft
[1:19:58] carrier.
[1:19:59] We're driving it more like a
[1:19:59] speedboat.
[1:20:00] So I'm very proud of our
[1:20:01] training division for what work
[1:20:04] that they've done and we've
[1:20:04] done that without expanding
[1:20:05] the budget in any way.
[1:20:09] So I'm very proud of what
[1:20:10] they've come up with.
[1:20:10] Fantastic.
[1:20:11] Thank you.
[1:20:13] And I do realize the training
[1:20:14] can be the first thing to cut
[1:20:14] in the hard budget season but
[1:20:15] that will result in harder
[1:20:18] calls later down the road.
[1:20:19] We don't want to set up our
[1:20:20] officers to fail in
[1:20:20] the community.
[1:20:21] We want to make sure that they
[1:20:24] are trained and they can adapt
[1:20:25] If something happens they
[1:20:26] should be able to address that
[1:20:26] right away rather than you said
[1:20:27] wait 18 months for a training
[1:20:30] cycle to come around when they
[1:20:31] address something that happened
[1:20:31] a year ago.
[1:20:32] So I think it's very smart
[1:20:32] the way you're doing this and
[1:20:35] let us know how we continue to
[1:20:35] fight for that in the budget
[1:20:36] because we crime unfortunately
[1:20:40] is not stopping People call no
[1:20:41] one all the time.
[1:20:42] I mean hundreds of thousands
[1:20:42] are now who one calls a year or
[1:20:43] so.
[1:20:43] I want to make sure we do fight
[1:20:45] to make sure there is enough in
[1:20:46] the budget to make sure
[1:20:47] officers are continually
[1:20:47] trained in continuous
[1:20:50] improvement.
[1:20:51] I also want to ask and say
[1:20:52] thank you as well for
[1:20:53] the incredible work you're
[1:20:56] doing cutting down the amount
[1:20:56] of overtime costs.
[1:20:57] It's been incredible to see.
[1:21:01] At the same time I want to make
[1:21:02] sure you have my extra three
[1:21:03] minutes please.
[1:21:03] I want to make sure that we're
[1:21:07] not doing that expensive
[1:21:07] response times.
[1:21:08] I know we're hitting our nine
[1:21:09] on one emergency calls but then
[1:21:12] there are non-emergency calls
[1:21:13] that people still need help
[1:21:13] with.
[1:21:14] So our response times flagging
[1:21:14] now or how are we doing there?
[1:21:17] So our response times are not
[1:21:18] where I'd like to see them
[1:21:18] quite frankly.
[1:21:23] We have different priority
[1:21:23] calls in our dispatch center
[1:21:24] for the highest emergency
[1:21:24] calls.
[1:21:28] We are underneath just slightly
[1:21:29] underneath the threshold of
[1:21:34] seven minutes response time and
[1:21:34] the reason we're hitting that
[1:21:35] is because when those calls
[1:21:36] come out everybody drops what
[1:21:36] they're doing no matter what
[1:21:37] they're doing and they go to
[1:21:39] that call.
[1:21:40] So we're hitting that response
[1:21:40] metric but every other response
[1:21:44] time is sometimes double and
[1:21:49] triple expected time frame.
[1:21:49] We went through a
[1:21:53] reorganization in my first 60
[1:21:54] days as chief We've been kind
[1:21:55] of retooling, refocusing our
[1:21:59] efforts and moving our overtime
[1:22:00] around to go to the amount of
[1:22:01] change that we've gone through
[1:22:04] this past year year and a half
[1:22:05] And to have response times
[1:22:06] remain the same is remarkable.
[1:22:10] We cut almost 7 million in
[1:22:11] overtime without causing
[1:22:15] response times to skyrocket and
[1:22:16] without having to reduce
[1:22:17] the services we provide to
[1:22:17] the city.
[1:22:20] So it's remarkable work that my
[1:22:21] staff and department members
[1:22:21] are doing.
[1:22:22] Very proud of them for that.
[1:22:26] I think it's incredible as well
[1:22:27] And we're still not fully
[1:22:27] staffed for the amount of
[1:22:28] officers that we could under
[1:22:32] the budget in the city of San
[1:22:33] Diego has grown exponentially
[1:22:35] and yet we're still making it
[1:22:36] to 911 calls.
[1:22:36] And so I do want to keep making
[1:22:37] sure we're funding recruitment
[1:22:40] academies because we're losing
[1:22:41] a lot of good officers to
[1:22:41] retirement.
[1:22:42] So I know the budget very hard
[1:22:46] but I and I know we just want
[1:22:46] to make sure we continue
[1:22:47] recruiting and getting a
[1:22:51] diverse group of officers and
[1:22:52] that who can fill the backfill
[1:22:55] as we get retirements I met my
[1:22:56] last question which is about
[1:22:56] the technology we've been
[1:23:00] implementing to help officers
[1:23:01] do their jobs quicker.
[1:23:02] I mean I've seen Taser ten out
[1:23:05] in action that's been very
[1:23:06] helpful for officers other than
[1:23:07] the old school Tasers which are
[1:23:08] not as useful and also
[1:23:11] the automated license plate
[1:23:11] readers.
[1:23:12] I mean we just heard about yet
[1:23:13] another hate crime happening in
[1:23:16] our city And I know
[1:23:17] the automated license plate
[1:23:18] reader technology was able to
[1:23:18] help prevent those in court.
[1:23:22] The suspects two years ago in
[1:23:23] Hillcrest So how is how I know
[1:23:27] we've been reducing vehicle
[1:23:27] thefts.
[1:23:28] We've been solving homicides
[1:23:29] with it but has it still
[1:23:29] continued to be productive for
[1:23:32] all of it for the city our
[1:23:37] staffing levels are about we
[1:23:38] have about a 10% vacancy rate
[1:23:38] based on our budget right now.
[1:23:39] But if you look at the call
[1:23:43] volume that we have in
[1:23:43] the amount of time that it
[1:23:44] takes to handle that call
[1:23:45] volume, we're about 1000
[1:23:47] officers short of what we need
[1:23:47] .
[1:23:48] If you look at similar size
[1:23:48] cities across the country,
[1:23:52] Phenix is 1000 or 3000 police
[1:23:52] officers.
[1:23:55] We're at about 815 somewhere
[1:23:59] around there right now Dallas
[1:24:00] 3300 police officers same size
[1:24:05] city.
[1:24:05] So we're definitely doing
[1:24:06] the job with fewer officers.
[1:24:10] We're finding creative ways to
[1:24:11] try to make sure that we're
[1:24:11] being as efficient and as
[1:24:12] effective as we possibly can
[1:24:15] with the limited resources we
[1:24:15] have.
[1:24:16] There's no question that
[1:24:16] technology helps us bridge that
[1:24:20] gap whether it's license plate
[1:24:21] or license plate readers that
[1:24:25] help us apprehend suspects
[1:24:25] after they commit the first
[1:24:26] crime or second crime versus
[1:24:27] allowing them to commit commit
[1:24:30] multiple crimes before we
[1:24:30] figure out who they are and
[1:24:31] catch them or whether it's
[1:24:35] using other technologies
[1:24:36] specifically when it comes to
[1:24:39] you know, like Taser ten, you
[1:24:40] know, tools like that help us
[1:24:44] save lives when we have violent
[1:24:45] combative individuals and we're
[1:24:48] able to have a greater standoff
[1:24:53] distance and that particular
[1:24:54] system helps us stay further
[1:24:58] back and have multiple attempts
[1:24:59] at trying to get that person
[1:24:59] safely into custody.
[1:25:00] There's no question that it's
[1:25:03] extremely helpful for us.
[1:25:04] Got it.
[1:25:09] And we've had robust hearings
[1:25:10] here at City Hall on privacy
[1:25:10] and transparency and civil
[1:25:11] rights which are all equally
[1:25:11] important.
[1:25:14] So if anybody has questions
[1:25:15] about how automated license
[1:25:15] plate readers are used, you can
[1:25:19] see the transparent use policy
[1:25:19] on the city's website.
[1:25:20] You can know where all these
[1:25:20] cameras are on the city's
[1:25:23] website We have weekly audits
[1:25:24] that the police in our I.T
[1:25:25] department does showing why
[1:25:28] the data has been pulled, what
[1:25:29] it's used for and we are unique
[1:25:30] among other cities.
[1:25:33] We do not share our automated
[1:25:34] license plate reader system
[1:25:35] with any other city.
[1:25:35] Others around us do and
[1:25:39] the city of Chula Vista has
[1:25:39] these Oceanside, Escondido, Los
[1:25:40] Angeles put of helpers and
[1:25:43] smart streetlights.
[1:25:43] The city of Berkeley uses APIs
[1:25:44] and smart city lights open.
[1:25:47] I mean these are used to
[1:25:48] prevent and treat crime or
[1:25:49] prevent and actually solve
[1:25:52] crime.
[1:25:52] However, there was a caller
[1:25:53] talking about whether or not
[1:25:54] the city cooperate in
[1:25:55] immigration enforcement.
[1:26:00] And let me be clear we do not
[1:26:01] it is very we actually let a
[1:26:02] vote at the city of San Diego
[1:26:02] to join the lawsuit with
[1:26:06] Minneapolis against the federal
[1:26:06] administration for what ice is
[1:26:07] currently doing in our
[1:26:08] communities because that is not
[1:26:10] law enforcement.
[1:26:11] But Chief, can you state on
[1:26:12] the record again we do not
[1:26:12] violate the California Values
[1:26:14] Act and we are not cooperating
[1:26:15] in immigration enforcement.
[1:26:15] Yes, ma'am.
[1:26:16] First of all, we don't share
[1:26:19] with anybody in the state.
[1:26:20] We don't share with our federal
[1:26:20] partners.
[1:26:21] We definitely don't use it for
[1:26:25] immigration purposes.
[1:26:25] We're in complete compliance
[1:26:28] with Senate Bill 54 as well as
[1:26:29] Senate Bill 34 In terms of
[1:26:33] sharing that that information
[1:26:37] we retain it and own that data
[1:26:38] And again we're trying to be as
[1:26:39] transparent as we possibly can
[1:26:39] and have the oversight and
[1:26:43] auditing in place so that
[1:26:43] people can be comfortable and
[1:26:44] confident that we're using it
[1:26:45] the right way to catch
[1:26:47] criminals.
[1:26:48] Thank you.
[1:26:48] It is critically important
[1:26:49] people feel safe calling our
[1:26:53] officers and calling 911.
[1:26:53] And so I just want to reiterate
[1:26:57] that again on the record.
[1:26:58] So thank you very much for
[1:26:58] the great news today.
[1:26:59] Thank you for the community
[1:27:02] effort and the work Everyone in
[1:27:03] our department is doing But I
[1:27:03] do want to close in recognizing
[1:27:06] this incredible progress in
[1:27:07] keeping us all safe.
[1:27:08] There's also something just as
[1:27:11] important.
[1:27:12] There were still horrible
[1:27:13] victims of crime last year.
[1:27:16] I mean victims of horrible
[1:27:16] crimes.
[1:27:17] And I still want to note that
[1:27:21] that even though our crime
[1:27:22] statistics are down, statistics
[1:27:22] are not just numbers.
[1:27:23] There are people who've lost
[1:27:23] family members.
[1:27:26] There are people who have had
[1:27:27] to leave their homes due to
[1:27:27] domestic violence.
[1:27:31] Their children who faced hate
[1:27:32] crimes in our schools.
[1:27:32] And so I want to acknowledge
[1:27:33] that there are still victims
[1:27:36] that we have to remember in
[1:27:36] this situation even as we're
[1:27:37] celebrating lower crime rates,
[1:27:38] I still want to remember them
[1:27:40] too.
[1:27:41] So thank you very much for
[1:27:42] the briefing.
[1:27:42] Thank you for the good news and
[1:27:45] I'll close my comments.
[1:27:45] All right.
[1:27:46] Thank you.
[1:27:47] Council member Von Wilpert.
[1:27:47] We'll go next to council member
[1:27:50] Marino.
[1:27:51] Thank you for the presentation.
[1:27:54] The city of San Diego's 2025
[1:27:54] crimes Briefing data shows
[1:27:59] meaningful declines in violent
[1:28:00] and violent crimes robberies,
[1:28:04] burglaries and vehicle theft.
[1:28:05] I do want to start off by
[1:28:08] commending the men and women of
[1:28:09] the San Diego Police Department
[1:28:09] and Chief Wall for their
[1:28:13] outstanding work in reducing
[1:28:14] crime across the city.
[1:28:18] However, as shown on the graph
[1:28:22] titled Vehicle Theft by Council
[1:28:26] District 2024 versus 2025,
[1:28:26] District eight is significant
[1:28:30] Lee Higher with 1622 vehicle
[1:28:34] thefts in 2024 and 1161 in
[1:28:35] 2025.
[1:28:35] It does appear that the high
[1:28:39] number of vehicle theft is due
[1:28:40] to the targeting operations by
[1:28:41] criminals around the cross
[1:28:44] border Express.
[1:28:45] In 2024 more than 4 million
[1:28:49] people used Cbdcs to cross over
[1:28:53] to take a flight through
[1:28:54] Rodriguez International Airport
[1:28:58] in Tijuana, Mexico.
[1:28:59] Criminals know the high volume
[1:29:03] of activity at CBCs and it
[1:29:04] shows that they're taking
[1:29:07] advantage of travelers that
[1:29:08] leave their cars unattended for
[1:29:12] days Maybe even weeks.
[1:29:13] Now CBCs is a vital part of my
[1:29:17] district and I would argue it's
[1:29:18] a vital part of the city of San
[1:29:18] Diego and the state of
[1:29:22] California.
[1:29:25] So having CBCs in District
[1:29:26] eight comes with its
[1:29:26] responsibilities.
[1:29:30] My question is what measures is
[1:29:31] the sd pd implementing to
[1:29:35] address the high rate of
[1:29:36] vehicle thefts in this area?
[1:29:37] Thank you for that question,
[1:29:37] Councilmember.
[1:29:41] First let me start by saying
[1:29:42] there has been a considerable
[1:29:45] drop from 2024 to 2025.
[1:29:46] I think we were fewer by 4 or
[1:29:46] 500.
[1:29:49] Vehicle thefts just in that in
[1:29:50] your district alone.
[1:29:54] So definitely celebrate
[1:29:55] the progress But there are
[1:29:58] still 1100 other cases from
[1:29:59] this last year that that we do
[1:30:03] need to address and continue
[1:30:03] driving that number down.
[1:30:04] >> I will say that with
[1:30:05] technology like license plate
[1:30:08] readers, we arrested 199 people
[1:30:09] last year for auto theft based
[1:30:12] on the license plate.
[1:30:13] >> Readers in other cities
[1:30:16] around the county are having
[1:30:17] similar progress.
[1:30:18] What we're doing when you look
[1:30:22] at the from a macro level we're
[1:30:23] taking the auto thieves off of
[1:30:26] the playing table and we're
[1:30:27] seeing that across and across
[1:30:27] the country.
[1:30:31] But specifically for that lot
[1:30:32] it is it is a target rich
[1:30:32] environment.
[1:30:36] There's thousands of cars there
[1:30:37] and they're there most of
[1:30:40] the time for an extended period
[1:30:41] .
[1:30:41] And so what it's going to take
[1:30:42] is is really a focused
[1:30:46] enforcement in those lots.
[1:30:47] Some of them are as you know,
[1:30:47] our joint use or federal
[1:30:50] property.
[1:30:51] And so working with our our
[1:30:55] federal partners as well to try
[1:30:56] to address this issue and
[1:30:57] trying to bring additional
[1:30:59] security measures, security
[1:31:03] patrols, whether it is federal
[1:31:04] agents or if it's security or
[1:31:08] San Diego police officers.
[1:31:09] But we are committed to working
[1:31:10] on this and of course your
[1:31:13] office to make sure that that
[1:31:14] we keep it at the forefront.
[1:31:14] Thank you.
[1:31:15] I appreciate your response.
[1:31:18] Recently CBCs did send a memo
[1:31:19] to the mayor.
[1:31:23] I know they sent one to me and
[1:31:24] requesting focused enforcement
[1:31:28] in this area and additional
[1:31:28] security.
[1:31:32] So I look forward to seeing
[1:31:33] that in the next year.
[1:31:37] And thank you for the response
[1:31:38] .
[1:31:39] I want to redirect our focus to
[1:31:42] Del Bird Shia Street in
[1:31:42] District eight.
[1:31:43] In a few minutes we're going to
[1:31:46] hear item 2a1 requesting Del
[1:31:49] Burgett to reduce its speed
[1:31:50] limits by five miles per hour.
[1:31:54] This change follows a citywide
[1:31:55] study which determined that Del
[1:31:55] Brucia has one of the greatest
[1:31:59] needs for speed reduction due
[1:32:00] to and I quote high levels of
[1:32:04] commercial activity and traffic
[1:32:04] volume.
[1:32:05] While there are several
[1:32:09] businesses in the area on Del
[1:32:13] Berjaya such as at Cofix Auto
[1:32:14] San Diego galvanized Inc just
[1:32:14] to name a few.
[1:32:18] The high levels of commercial
[1:32:19] activity and traffic volumes
[1:32:24] can be associated with ongoing
[1:32:24] issues related to prostitution
[1:32:29] activity along Del Bajo.
[1:32:30] Can the department provide an
[1:32:30] update regarding prostitution
[1:32:34] activity and what steps doing
[1:32:38] to combat the prostitution of
[1:32:39] Del Burgess and just in general
[1:32:40] enforcement efforts that
[1:32:42] the priest undertaking to
[1:32:47] address this issue?
[1:32:48] >> Well, first let me let me
[1:32:52] say that the additional large
[1:32:52] vehicles construction trucks in
[1:33:00] that area, the smaller streets
[1:33:00] having slower speeds on there I
[1:33:01] if you want my personal
[1:33:02] opinion, I think it's a is a
[1:33:04] good thing down there with
[1:33:04] those large vehicles in
[1:33:05] congested area.
[1:33:06] But to your point about
[1:33:12] prostitution.
[1:33:12] With the recent change in law,
[1:33:14] we're now able to focus on
[1:33:20] the demand side and address
[1:33:20] the Johns.
[1:33:21] I think we're going to start
[1:33:25] seeing large increases in
[1:33:26] the crimes against society
[1:33:30] decided that were that would be
[1:33:31] recorded, correct?
[1:33:31] Correct.
[1:33:32] Good.
[1:33:32] It's now giving us the tools
[1:33:35] that we need to have an impact.
[1:33:35] And we've had focused efforts
[1:33:39] down there since the day that
[1:33:40] that bill came online.
[1:33:44] And I think will will continue
[1:33:45] over time showing that we're
[1:33:45] going to be consistent and
[1:33:49] we're going to focus on on
[1:33:49] those areas.
[1:33:53] I think you'll continue to see
[1:33:54] that that issue start to
[1:33:54] dissipate.
[1:33:54] Okay.
[1:33:57] Thank you for the response.
[1:33:58] I do want to understand
[1:33:58] the limitations and
[1:34:03] complexities of prostitution
[1:34:04] And but I do want to point out
[1:34:05] if we had open air prostitution
[1:34:07] on prospect Street or Kettner
[1:34:08] Boulevard, I think the response
[1:34:12] from the city would be very
[1:34:13] different than what is being
[1:34:13] shown in Del Battista.
[1:34:14] And I just I continue to
[1:34:17] implore you, Chief and Mayor
[1:34:18] Gloria, to address this issue.
[1:34:22] I think the residents and
[1:34:22] businesses on Del Birria
[1:34:23] deserve better And I hate to
[1:34:27] end on a negative note because
[1:34:32] this is a very good uptick that
[1:34:32] we're seeing across the board
[1:34:33] from for the city of San Diego.
[1:34:36] But these are the realities
[1:34:37] that residents in my district
[1:34:42] are experience facing and it's
[1:34:42] my responsibility to advocate
[1:34:43] for my district.
[1:34:46] So all in all kudos for
[1:34:47] the improvement across the city
[1:34:47] Definitely reflects
[1:34:51] the dedication professional
[1:34:51] wisdom and commitment of our
[1:34:52] officers who work every day to
[1:34:56] keep San Diego safe.
[1:34:57] So just in general just really
[1:35:01] wonderful job that you guys are
[1:35:01] doing on those two items.
[1:35:06] I will elevate them just so we
[1:35:06] can get more attention.
[1:35:07] But thank you for your
[1:35:07] response.
[1:35:11] Councilmember if I if I MAY, I
[1:35:12] think our officers have engaged
[1:35:12] quite a few men over the past
[1:35:13] couple of years about
[1:35:16] prostitution on Dabaja.
[1:35:17] Through that advocacy the state
[1:35:17] law that she for reference
[1:35:20] allowed us to take enforcement
[1:35:21] be on special operations and
[1:35:21] really return it to patrol
[1:35:22] officers to have that sustained
[1:35:25] enforcement.
[1:35:25] The work is not done there.
[1:35:26] I think as we continue to look
[1:35:29] at this issue, continue to
[1:35:30] advocate at the state to have
[1:35:31] additional legislation that can
[1:35:31] allow us to go towards
[1:35:34] the victim services side as
[1:35:35] well and ensure folks that are
[1:35:36] being trafficked in that area
[1:35:38] have resources and that we're
[1:35:39] able to engage with them.
[1:35:40] So understood that the work is
[1:35:40] not yet done but looking
[1:35:44] forward to continued engagement
[1:35:45] with your office there.
[1:35:45] All right.
[1:35:46] Thank you, Councilmember
[1:35:46] Moreno.
[1:35:47] The next to council member
[1:35:52] Campbell Thank you Council
[1:35:52] PRESIDENT And thanks to you for
[1:35:57] the wonderful presentation and
[1:35:57] the good work that it shows and
[1:35:58] to all the police department
[1:36:01] for all the work to keep
[1:36:02] the city of San Diego one of
[1:36:06] the biggest and one of
[1:36:06] the safest and biggest cities
[1:36:07] in America.
[1:36:10] It's great news to see that
[1:36:11] the crime rates continue to
[1:36:14] decrease again and now by 6.3%.
[1:36:15] This is the fifth year in a row
[1:36:18] that crime has gone down.
[1:36:19] It's especially good to see
[1:36:20] that hate crimes in general
[1:36:24] have decreased by 32% in
[1:36:24] the city.
[1:36:27] The issue of hate crimes was
[1:36:28] one plaguing our communities
[1:36:29] for the last couple of years
[1:36:32] and I'm relieved to see that
[1:36:33] our efforts have helped
[1:36:34] decrease hate crimes especially
[1:36:37] against our lgbtq community and
[1:36:38] especially against people of
[1:36:43] color who for decades have been
[1:36:43] the main victims of such
[1:36:43] crimes.
[1:36:47] However, it is concerning to
[1:36:51] see that religious hate crimes
[1:36:56] have increased in the city by
[1:36:56] 150%.
[1:36:57] An increase in religious hate
[1:37:01] crimes harms the safety and
[1:37:02] unity of our communities.
[1:37:05] It undermines the fundamental
[1:37:06] American value of religious
[1:37:06] freedom.
[1:37:10] It is a central that we stand
[1:37:11] firmly against hatred and
[1:37:15] ensure that every person can
[1:37:16] practice their faith without
[1:37:16] fear.
[1:37:21] People ask What can I do to
[1:37:21] help?
[1:37:25] Well here's a suggestion.
[1:37:25] Anytime someone you're
[1:37:29] conversing with makes a comment
[1:37:29] that is against someone's
[1:37:30] religion tell them to stop.
[1:37:35] Tell them to stop saying things
[1:37:35] like that.
[1:37:39] i remind them that our
[1:37:40] Constitution guarantees
[1:37:44] the freedom of all religions.
[1:37:45] As a matter of fact, when we
[1:37:45] began as a country all those
[1:37:49] hundreds of years ago, many of
[1:37:49] the people who started our
[1:37:53] country came here because they
[1:37:54] needed religious freedom.
[1:37:58] Never forget that.
[1:37:59] And in other words and on other
[1:38:03] items in district to my
[1:38:04] district I want to thank you
[1:38:08] are crime is down by 6% this
[1:38:08] year And across the city
[1:38:12] the numbers are just incredible
[1:38:12] .
[1:38:13] Wonderful murders drop by 25%
[1:38:17] nonfatal shootings 21% down,
[1:38:21] vehicle theft down by 22%
[1:38:22] overall.
[1:38:26] And this is all great news And
[1:38:27] I think a lot of it is because
[1:38:27] of our smart technology that
[1:38:31] dramatically improves our
[1:38:31] officers ability to do their
[1:38:35] jobs And additionally these
[1:38:36] trends show that this mayor and
[1:38:41] this city council and this
[1:38:41] department are committed to
[1:38:46] ensuring that San Diego remains
[1:38:50] either at the top or MAY be
[1:38:51] this year even We might be
[1:38:52] number two.
[1:38:55] I'm not sure of America's
[1:38:56] safest cities overall.
[1:39:00] I'm once again committing my
[1:39:00] full support to our police
[1:39:01] officers because I want our
[1:39:05] communities to remain safe and
[1:39:06] so do more residents.
[1:39:07] I want to thank all our
[1:39:10] officers who are working long
[1:39:11] hours keeping us all safe and
[1:39:15] yet you've been able to
[1:39:15] decrease the amount of
[1:39:16] overtime.
[1:39:19] Thank you so much And MAY we
[1:39:20] please have good results in our
[1:39:24] recruitment for new officers?
[1:39:35] Thank you.
[1:39:51] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:39:51] Thank you, Council member
[1:39:53] Campbell.
[1:39:58] We'll go next to Council Member
[1:39:59] Campo Thank you.
[1:40:01] Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[1:40:01] Chief and thank you to the San
[1:40:03] Diego Police Department for
[1:40:06] your good work.
[1:40:11] I just want to start by
[1:40:12] recognizing the work of our
[1:40:16] officers and our community
[1:40:17] partners even while operating
[1:40:17] with fewer officers per capita
[1:40:18] than comparable major cities,
[1:40:18] they continue to deliver
[1:40:19] excellent results and help keep
[1:40:19] San Diego one of the safest
[1:40:20] large cities in the country.
[1:40:21] In years past I've pointed out
[1:40:22] those figures but today I'll
[1:40:23] just remind folks that for our
[1:40:23] population we should have
[1:40:25] closer to 2600 officers.
[1:40:25] I personally would like to see
[1:40:26] a plan to get us to 2000
[1:40:26] officers in the next three
[1:40:27] years.
[1:40:27] I think that's an ambitious but
[1:40:28] also realistic goal.
[1:40:28] Public safety also means
[1:40:29] prevention and that's why I've
[1:40:31] supported programs that work
[1:40:36] directly in communities that
[1:40:37] interrupt cycles of violence
[1:40:38] before they're started as well
[1:40:39] as supporting well vetted
[1:40:39] technologies.
[1:40:40] And of course while hate crimes
[1:40:42] are reportedly down, we know
[1:40:47] that many incidents still go
[1:40:49] unreported.
[1:40:50] At a time when hateful rhetoric
[1:40:50] is more normalized, it's
[1:40:51] critical that our community
[1:40:53] continues to speak out and have
[1:40:54] people report these incidents.
[1:40:54] Hopefully the San Diego Police
[1:40:55] Department or their law
[1:40:58] enforcement agencies but if not
[1:40:58] to trusted community partners
[1:40:59] so we can connect them with
[1:40:59] resources.
[1:41:00] Also I want to point out that
[1:41:01] we are a border city and we are
[1:41:02] also one of the largest safe
[1:41:03] cities in the country for many
[1:41:03] years running because we're
[1:41:04] focusing on protecting people
[1:41:05] and strengthening communities
[1:41:05] good crime prevention and good
[1:41:06] crime solving helped to
[1:41:09] reinforce that We as a city are
[1:41:14] upholding our top charter
[1:41:16] obligation.
[1:41:26] It's stated plain and clear
[1:41:26] which is keeping San Diego
[1:41:27] safe.
[1:41:27] Chief, I have a question for
[1:41:28] you and your staff about crime
[1:41:29] clearance.
[1:41:30] I'm sorry about the feedback.
[1:41:31] Crime clearance It's an odd
[1:41:32] phrase to members of the public
[1:41:33] but basically it means arrests
[1:41:33] and apprehensions when a crime
[1:41:34] is reported.
[1:41:35] I'm glad to see that those
[1:41:36] statistics have stayed
[1:41:40] basically stable or increased
[1:41:40] for property crimes because
[1:41:41] that's the first modicum of
[1:41:45] justice for many victims to
[1:41:45] know that the police department
[1:41:46] has actually apprehended
[1:41:46] someone who has allegedly
[1:41:46] created committed a crime.
[1:41:47] I'm wondering how difficult it
[1:41:47] would be for San Diego Police
[1:41:47] Department to see how many of
[1:41:48] those cleared cases actually
[1:41:48] have led to guilty convictions
[1:41:49] or dismissal for whatever
[1:41:49] reason.
[1:41:49] Is that data able to be
[1:41:50] collected from the da's office
[1:41:51] or the city attorney's office
[1:41:51] in handling those cases so that
[1:41:51] the public can understand and
[1:41:52] have a more complete picture of
[1:41:55] what accountability is truly
[1:41:55] being achieved?
[1:41:56] Can we get that data?
[1:42:06] Can we dig into that data So we
[1:42:48] actually see that a lot of
[1:43:09] these crimes where people are
[1:43:30] being apprehended actually lead
[1:43:51] to substantial justice through
[1:44:12] either a guilty plea or a
[1:44:33] dismissal when the person
[1:45:18] cannot be proven beyond a
[1:45:41] reasonable doubt guilty?
[1:46:02] I would say it's possible.
[1:46:23] Councilmember.
[1:46:46] Unfortunately we do not retain
[1:46:53] that information and don't
[1:46:53] necessarily have access to that
[1:46:54] information.
[1:46:54] We'd have to request that
[1:46:54] through the district attorney's
[1:46:54] office as well as the city
[1:46:54] attorney's office.
[1:46:54] I can imagine for both of them
[1:46:55] that would be a pretty
[1:46:55] laborious task to try to weed
[1:46:55] through which agencies each one
[1:46:55] applies to.
[1:46:55] As you know there are a number
[1:46:55] of other factors that that go
[1:46:56] into each of these cases.
[1:46:56] But at the end of the day I do
[1:46:56] think that they have some data
[1:46:56] we'd have to request from them.
[1:46:56] Okay.
[1:46:56] I'm hoping that next year this
[1:46:57] time maybe with a few
[1:46:57] conversations you can collect
[1:46:57] at least some high level high
[1:46:57] level data as to what that
[1:46:57] looks like.
[1:46:57] Because when you look at
[1:46:58] the when you look at the types
[1:46:58] of crimes crimes against
[1:46:58] persons, oftentimes there's
[1:46:58] human witnesses.
[1:46:58] It's a violent crime.
[1:46:58] There's some substantial
[1:46:59] property crime.
[1:46:59] Usually there's no one watching
[1:46:59] crimes against society.
[1:46:59] Typically the police officer is
[1:46:59] the is the witness to what is
[1:47:00] oftentimes a drug crime.
[1:47:00] Right.
[1:47:00] So I would hope you could have
[1:47:00] those conversations, see what
[1:47:00] we can get.
[1:47:00] The next year we have a more
[1:47:01] robust picture because I think
[1:47:01] the public can look at these
[1:47:01] these numbers but also say
[1:47:01] well, who's actually being held
[1:47:01] accountable?
[1:47:01] I think a lot of people think
[1:47:02] that nobody is being held
[1:47:02] accountable.
[1:47:02] But I know that's not
[1:47:02] the truth.
[1:47:02] I know the da's office and
[1:47:02] the city attorney's office
[1:47:03] successfully prosecute many,
[1:47:03] many crimes.
[1:47:03] So if you can have those
[1:47:03] conversations and by next year
[1:47:03] have some report back on that,
[1:47:03] I'll ask the question next
[1:47:04] year.
[1:47:04] So you have 365 days Heads up.
[1:47:04] Thank you for your good work.
[1:47:04] Thank you for the time.
[1:47:04] Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[1:47:04] Council member camp here.
[1:47:05] We'll go next to Council member
[1:47:05] Foster Yes thank you Council
[1:47:05] PRESIDENT And thank you chief
[1:47:05] to you and your team for
[1:47:05] the presentation.
[1:47:05] I guess I will start with
[1:47:06] congratulations and a good job
[1:47:06] Job well done.
[1:47:06] You know, typically I think
[1:47:06] there are folks out there that
[1:47:06] would say I tend to be more or
[1:47:06] to criticize San Diego police
[1:47:07] than to congrats to you.
[1:47:07] But I think on the efforts and
[1:47:07] the data is clear that we are
[1:47:07] the safest, largest city And so
[1:47:08] thank you for that.
[1:47:08] Thank you to your team also I
[1:47:08] just want to say thank you as
[1:47:08] we have are one of our credible
[1:47:08] messenger teams here today
[1:47:08] started working on bringing
[1:47:09] credible messengers to the city
[1:47:09] of San Diego as I was the chief
[1:47:09] of staff for District four and
[1:47:09] it was a task to bring that
[1:47:09] forward and we were able to
[1:47:09] start with the no shots fired
[1:47:10] team and bringing them on
[1:47:10] board.
[1:47:10] But I want to thank you
[1:47:10] personally for your efforts
[1:47:10] because we have expanded on
[1:47:11] things that we'd like to take
[1:47:11] my council colleagues on for
[1:47:11] their support in expanding on
[1:47:11] the alternative and continuing
[1:47:11] the investment in no shots
[1:47:12] fired continuing to pursue
[1:47:12] capital grants and also thank
[1:47:12] you to my colleagues for
[1:47:12] the efforts in creating
[1:47:12] the drop in centers.
[1:47:12] I think that work speaks for
[1:47:13] itself and I think it is
[1:47:13] necessary work and hopefully
[1:47:13] you and your team see
[1:47:13] the importance and
[1:47:13] the assistance that they
[1:47:13] provide in certain
[1:47:14] circumstances.
[1:47:14] So I just really want to thank
[1:47:14] you and also thank you to
[1:47:14] the mayor's office and his team
[1:47:14] for continuing those efforts.
[1:47:15] I know it's not easy but you
[1:47:15] have shown if you provide
[1:47:15] the opportunity there are
[1:47:15] avenues and good work that's
[1:47:15] being done.
[1:47:15] I myself work closely with a
[1:47:16] few of the organizations you
[1:47:16] know I always call no matter
[1:47:16] what the night is as I hear
[1:47:16] activity I live in one of
[1:47:16] the main corridors for
[1:47:16] Southeastern Division and so i
[1:47:17] hear a lot of the activities
[1:47:17] and things that go on and I am
[1:47:17] always first of all on
[1:47:17] the phone to make sure that we
[1:47:17] are interrupting violence and
[1:47:17] trying our best to keep our
[1:47:18] neighborhoods safe.
[1:47:18] So I just want to thank you for
[1:47:18] those efforts Also I do
[1:47:18] appreciate my colleague's line
[1:47:18] of question questioning on
[1:47:19] things don't for training as as
[1:47:19] you know we you know there's
[1:47:19] several sides to policing and
[1:47:19] as we as we are doing the good
[1:47:19] work and in keeping our
[1:47:19] community safe there's also
[1:47:20] some other things that we need
[1:47:20] to continue to work on.
[1:47:20] We're all human know ones above
[1:47:20] making a mistake myself
[1:47:20] included.
[1:47:20] And so I just want to thank you
[1:47:21] for the time and effort you're
[1:47:21] taking to to to work on those
[1:47:21] types of issues to look at
[1:47:21] internally what we can do
[1:47:21] better And I'm sure you'll have
[1:47:22] some more time to go into more
[1:47:22] detail about those efforts and
[1:47:23] the certain things that you are
[1:47:26] doing with training.
[1:47:27] So I truly do appreciate that
[1:47:30] as well.
[1:47:31] The one question I do have a
[1:47:35] couple of questions and I just
[1:47:36] want to ask this this of you
[1:47:36] because one thing that I will
[1:47:40] always say and I've said this
[1:47:41] before I truly do believe at
[1:47:41] certain times we do a
[1:47:45] disservice to our officers and
[1:47:46] I think we have put a lot on
[1:47:46] them.
[1:47:50] And so I just want to ask do
[1:47:51] you employ or does the city
[1:47:52] employ any social workers that
[1:47:57] you that you know of directly?
[1:47:57] >> Directly?
[1:47:58] No, we don't have any
[1:48:02] behavioral health per se.
[1:48:03] Folks on what I want to say
[1:48:06] city staff not to say we MAY
[1:48:07] not be contracting as we work
[1:48:08] with our experts in certain
[1:48:12] things but our core services
[1:48:13] that we provide we do not
[1:48:16] employ those types of
[1:48:17] individuals, correct?
[1:48:17] That's correct.
[1:48:18] Okay.
[1:48:18] I just want to make sure we're
[1:48:21] clear because we ask a lot of
[1:48:22] our officers as we deal with
[1:48:26] our homelessness and certain
[1:48:31] issues and often times I find
[1:48:32] that as we are dealing in
[1:48:36] certain circumstances or
[1:48:36] certain incidents arise
[1:48:37] oftentimes you can tie it back
[1:48:41] to certain behavioral health
[1:48:41] circumstances or certain things
[1:48:45] that things MAY not let's say
[1:48:46] finished the way we would want
[1:48:51] them to to to finish right We
[1:48:52] to be to be transparent We do
[1:48:52] partner and they do ride with
[1:48:56] us seven days a week county
[1:48:57] social workers so we don't hire
[1:49:00] social workers as a city
[1:49:01] employee we do partner with
[1:49:05] the county for mental health
[1:49:05] services.
[1:49:06] We partner with them with
[1:49:07] registered nurses and we
[1:49:10] partner with them for social
[1:49:10] workers So we do have them
[1:49:14] available As far as outreach
[1:49:15] into the community, I was
[1:49:16] thinking you were talking about
[1:49:21] more internally work with this
[1:49:22] one officers on a wellness side
[1:49:23] but well that and that as well
[1:49:24] because that is something that
[1:49:25] we also need to address because
[1:49:28] again we are putting a lot on
[1:49:29] our officers And so I do
[1:49:30] appreciate the efforts.
[1:49:34] I do appreciate the results
[1:49:35] from the crime stats that that
[1:49:35] we are seeing.
[1:49:39] So again, I just want to say
[1:49:40] thank you to our officers and
[1:49:41] thank you for the good work and
[1:49:42] thank you to your team in
[1:49:43] the mayor's office.
[1:49:44] But I do think we need to do
[1:49:48] more as we have you know, as we
[1:49:48] deal with with the behavioral
[1:49:49] health issues that I think
[1:49:53] there are other agencies
[1:49:54] organizations that need to take
[1:49:57] the lead into to have more
[1:49:58] responsibility and
[1:49:58] accountability so that we can
[1:50:03] address the core What I would
[1:50:03] want to say the core issues of
[1:50:04] some of the things that we are
[1:50:07] experiencing out in our
[1:50:07] community.
[1:50:08] So I just wanted to make sure
[1:50:09] that we talked about that
[1:50:17] briefly As I look at this also
[1:50:21] I just want to ask and I want
[1:50:22] to say this before I leave that
[1:50:23] because I just want everyone to
[1:50:23] also know that we have a severe
[1:50:27] shortage in our social workers,
[1:50:27] in our behavioral health
[1:50:31] experts and it is a very, very
[1:50:32] large problem and it's
[1:50:32] something that we've
[1:50:33] identified.
[1:50:36] I do sit on the San Diego
[1:50:36] Workforce Partnership where we
[1:50:37] are starting to expand our
[1:50:41] efforts in regards to
[1:50:41] apprenticeships and in certain
[1:50:42] trainings to bring more folks
[1:50:43] in to the behavioral health
[1:50:46] services so we can try and plug
[1:50:46] that gap.
[1:50:50] So we are trying to approach
[1:50:51] this comprehensively on all
[1:50:52] sides As I do recall you know
[1:50:55] me personally I do recognize
[1:50:56] the issues that are out there
[1:51:00] Also I do have a question on
[1:51:00] hate crimes and I guess
[1:51:05] originally and I'll use an
[1:51:05] example there was a moment in
[1:51:09] time where we were having some
[1:51:10] some individuals I guess I will
[1:51:15] say were going around and
[1:51:15] taking pellet guns in certain
[1:51:16] things that were doing
[1:51:19] inappropriate activities in in
[1:51:24] communities and originally I
[1:51:25] thought we were headed down a
[1:51:26] hate crime scenario but it
[1:51:29] looked like once it went
[1:51:30] through the investigative
[1:51:30] process the dea landed where
[1:51:34] they landed it looks like that
[1:51:35] was pulled back to where it was
[1:51:36] not a hate crime If I
[1:51:38] understood what was in
[1:51:39] the media reporting.
[1:51:40] So my question is based on
[1:51:44] the stats that are provided in
[1:51:44] the report, is that based on
[1:51:45] your data or is that a
[1:51:48] determined after the final
[1:51:49] determination of what the dea
[1:51:54] dea does?
[1:51:54] It's a fantastic question,
[1:51:55] Councilmember.
[1:51:55] And without knowing a little
[1:51:56] bit more information, I don't
[1:51:58] know that I can answer it
[1:51:59] correctly.
[1:51:59] >> But let me let me at least
[1:52:03] say this When there's a plea
[1:52:04] deal that's put on the table,
[1:52:04] they MAY take that hate crime
[1:52:08] charge off in terms of
[1:52:12] negotiating for future for a
[1:52:13] resolution of the case without
[1:52:17] having that attached to your to
[1:52:17] your file if you will.
[1:52:18] I can talk a little bit about
[1:52:22] that case because it's a
[1:52:22] fantastic example of how we
[1:52:27] work together as one community
[1:52:27] And we had some restorative
[1:52:30] justice there for those 319
[1:52:31] year old individuals who
[1:52:35] clearly were making some bad
[1:52:35] decisions.
[1:52:39] But I think working with the no
[1:52:40] shots fired program, working
[1:52:40] with the courts, working with
[1:52:45] the community, we were able to
[1:52:49] get these kids back on track
[1:52:50] and they're not going to be
[1:52:50] tarred and feathered for
[1:52:51] the rest of their lives because
[1:52:53] as bad decisions as 90 year
[1:52:54] olds So very proud of that
[1:52:58] case, very proud of the lgbt
[1:52:58] youth community for coming
[1:52:59] forward and sharing how it felt
[1:53:02] to be targeted.
[1:53:08] But having the strength to
[1:53:08] forgive.
[1:53:12] I just think it was it's a
[1:53:12] perfect example of why San
[1:53:13] Diego was a great, great city
[1:53:17] and I appreciate that because I
[1:53:18] don't think folks truly
[1:53:18] understand the details and how
[1:53:20] everything works together.
[1:53:25] So I do appreciate that.
[1:53:26] >> Let me check my notes really
[1:53:30] quick if you can.
[1:53:30] There's a slide in
[1:53:31] the presentation if you don't
[1:53:32] mind pulling that up.
[1:53:35] I do not see a page number on
[1:53:35] my end but it looks like it's
[1:53:40] an ip address and it says crime
[1:53:43] categories by Council District
[1:53:44] 2025 If you can pull that up
[1:53:45] really quick in the on
[1:53:51] the screen is that the green
[1:53:56] and blue and red?
[1:53:57] Yeah Yeah Can you control I
[1:53:59] think she's going to get it.
[1:54:04] Oh yeah and we'll try to make
[1:54:07] this quick going about 14 10s
[1:54:16] left to go Okay Thank you.
[1:54:17] There you go.
[1:54:18] And I understand you know as we
[1:54:21] drill back because we did see
[1:54:25] an uptick in certain categories
[1:54:26] as we look at gang some gang
[1:54:27] violence in certain things
[1:54:31] which I know folks are working
[1:54:32] very hard on.
[1:54:32] But I wanted to look at this
[1:54:33] Can you kind of help me to
[1:54:36] better understand what this
[1:54:41] slide represents Sense As I
[1:54:45] look at District four, you know
[1:54:45] it looks like we are in a good
[1:54:49] place as you compare it to
[1:54:50] the rest of this city and often
[1:54:54] times as I am out in
[1:54:55] the community or I hear certain
[1:54:59] references to my community is
[1:55:00] typically noted as unsafe.
[1:55:04] But as I look at this chart it
[1:55:08] kind of says the opposite that
[1:55:09] it appears District four is
[1:55:09] actually in a in a good place
[1:55:13] Not to say there's not room for
[1:55:14] improvement as well but it does
[1:55:17] appear that District four is
[1:55:17] not in the top three.
[1:55:21] I guess I'll say Let me let me
[1:55:22] start by saying Councilmember
[1:55:26] that that gang violence overall
[1:55:30] is down 13% While there are
[1:55:31] some categories within gang
[1:55:35] violence that have seen a what
[1:55:36] I would characterize at this
[1:55:40] point is a slight increase that
[1:55:41] we need to focus on But I
[1:55:42] wouldn't declared a problem
[1:55:44] we've seen over the last five
[1:55:45] years a steady decline in gang
[1:55:45] violence and all attributed
[1:55:49] that to community groups like
[1:55:50] the ones that we're here today
[1:55:54] the ones that that aren't
[1:55:54] necessarily here today but are
[1:55:55] out there doing the hard work.
[1:55:59] Our police officers or gang
[1:55:59] intervention unit that is
[1:56:03] starting to mentor kids at a
[1:56:04] young age we're starting to see
[1:56:08] the successes of things that
[1:56:09] have been planted from years in
[1:56:13] the past moving forward if we
[1:56:13] see increases again next year
[1:56:14] in a trend going up then I
[1:56:17] think I'd be a little bit more
[1:56:18] serious about it.
[1:56:18] But I think we have the right
[1:56:19] game plan.
[1:56:20] i think you'll see a normal ebb
[1:56:21] and flow that isn't anything to
[1:56:22] be concerned with.
[1:56:23] We're staying at a low level
[1:56:23] right now and that's a good
[1:56:24] thing.
[1:56:27] But to explain to the color
[1:56:28] chart there, let me ask my
[1:56:28] partner here to do that.
[1:56:29] Thanks to you.
[1:56:29] Yeah.
[1:56:32] Councilmember So to your point,
[1:56:33] I think what you're trying to
[1:56:33] get at is you know, with
[1:56:34] respect to the volume right
[1:56:37] your your district is
[1:56:38] relatively low And the way we
[1:56:38] typically look at this, you
[1:56:42] know, for from ourselves we're
[1:56:43] either looking at a command
[1:56:44] perspective or down all the way
[1:56:47] down to a beat level crime When
[1:56:48] you're looking at kind of macro
[1:56:49] for you know full year view of
[1:56:52] of you know, how did crime go
[1:56:52] and where was the crime it
[1:56:53] tends to follow pretty
[1:56:54] similarly with our call volume
[1:56:56] as well So you know downtown
[1:56:57] the beaches are our shopping
[1:57:01] centers places where you're
[1:57:02] going to have large collections
[1:57:02] of people, you're going to have
[1:57:05] more incidents And so most of
[1:57:06] your district is more suburban,
[1:57:07] right?
[1:57:10] The incidents that we see occur
[1:57:11] in that district are going to
[1:57:11] be a little more diffuse right
[1:57:12] there.
[1:57:12] They're spread out across a
[1:57:15] little bit more randomly than
[1:57:16] they might be in those those
[1:57:17] centralized locations like you
[1:57:20] imagine a shopping center or a
[1:57:21] place where you might have a
[1:57:22] lot of say alcohol related
[1:57:22] incidents.
[1:57:25] And so to your point I think
[1:57:26] with respect to the suburban
[1:57:26] areas we see in the city there
[1:57:30] generally going to be lower
[1:57:31] compared to our good large
[1:57:34] collections of people.
[1:57:35] Okay, very good And thank you
[1:57:39] for that And just again I'll
[1:57:40] say this simply put, District
[1:57:44] four is a safe community.
[1:57:45] So thank you.
[1:57:45] Thank you for all the work that
[1:57:50] you do and you know as we look
[1:57:54] at trends and I just want you
[1:57:55] to know that I am always here
[1:57:58] to to step up and to help out
[1:57:59] in any way I can.
[1:58:00] You know about that I work
[1:58:03] directly with my community and
[1:58:04] folks and I have absolutely no
[1:58:08] problem doing that and having
[1:58:08] those conversations.
[1:58:09] So with that again, Pastor
[1:58:10] Sandoval, thank you to you and
[1:58:13] your team for coming out today.
[1:58:19] I don't see anomalies Big Rudy
[1:58:19] But you know you know you kind
[1:58:20] of know a deal.
[1:58:21] You know you said you got a big
[1:58:25] sheet, bro, you know, But but
[1:58:26] you know, I just want to say
[1:58:30] hey, congratulations, Big Rudy
[1:58:31] and just thank you for
[1:58:31] everything that you do and
[1:58:32] you've come a long way.
[1:58:35] Deal.
[1:58:35] And you know, keep up the good
[1:58:36] work.
[1:58:40] So thank you.
[1:58:40] All right.
[1:58:41] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.
[1:58:44] That concludes my comments.
[1:58:45] >> You need more input from Big
[1:58:49] Ruby and their All right.
[1:58:50] Thank you.
[1:58:50] Councilmember Foster will go
[1:58:51] next to Councilmember Ella
[1:58:54] Rivera Thank you council
[1:58:55] PRESIDENT I don't know Ryan
[1:58:59] Heitman that video if you want
[1:59:03] to come through any time I just
[1:59:04] to thank you for the for
[1:59:04] the you know the presentation
[1:59:06] obviously But but more
[1:59:06] importantly for the work behind
[1:59:12] it to kind of piggyback on on
[1:59:14] COUNCILMAN Foster's comments,
[1:59:19] you know obviously it's
[1:59:20] important to to maintain
[1:59:21] accountability and and share
[1:59:24] when we feel like the mark
[1:59:25] isn't being met but also
[1:59:25] equally important to make sure
[1:59:29] we're acknowledging when a good
[1:59:29] work is done and the community
[1:59:30] is heading in the right
[1:59:34] direction in terms of safety
[1:59:34] And I think it's especially
[1:59:38] important that we we
[1:59:39] acknowledge that when
[1:59:43] the progress is being made to
[1:59:44] rein in the overtime hours that
[1:59:45] you've done I said it before
[1:59:48] and I'll say it again
[1:59:48] the progress that's that's been
[1:59:49] made we were told was
[1:59:53] impossible And not only have
[1:59:54] you proven that that's possible
[1:59:54] but we've done it without
[1:59:58] sacrificing the safety of San
[1:59:59] Diego residents And I think
[1:59:59] that's very, very important.
[2:00:03] Note and speaks to the work
[2:00:04] that you're doing in your
[2:00:07] position.
[2:00:08] So thank you for that.
[2:00:12] And to to that point that's a
[2:00:13] thank you to the community as
[2:00:13] well.
[2:00:17] Obviously the police department
[2:00:18] plays a very important role in
[2:00:19] preventing crime and stopping
[2:00:19] crime.
[2:00:22] But a community that isn't
[2:00:23] working well together is not a
[2:00:24] safe community And I know you
[2:00:27] believe that.
[2:00:28] I know we've had a lot of
[2:00:29] conversations about that And so
[2:00:32] you know, without diminishing
[2:00:33] in any way the role that
[2:00:33] the police department plays, i
[2:00:34] think it's incredibly important
[2:00:36] to acknowledge the community as
[2:00:37] well the neighbors who look out
[2:00:41] for one another, the folks who
[2:00:42] have have turned their lives
[2:00:46] into committing to creating
[2:00:47] safety and preventing folks
[2:00:48] from heading down the wrong
[2:00:51] track even though many times
[2:00:52] those roles are not glorious
[2:00:56] and certainly not well paid.
[2:00:56] So it's a community wide effort
[2:00:57] and I think all of San Diego
[2:01:00] deserves appreciation and
[2:01:01] applause for that.
[2:01:06] So thank you for believing that
[2:01:06] that is an important part of
[2:01:07] the equation to create a safe
[2:01:11] San Diego And I'm glad to see
[2:01:12] that this is the direction
[2:01:17] we're headed.
[2:01:17] My colleagues would ask great
[2:01:18] questions so I won't belabor
[2:01:18] those.
[2:01:19] I just want to say thank you
[2:01:19] again.
[2:01:21] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All
[2:01:22] right.
[2:01:22] Thank you Council member Ella
[2:01:23] Rivera We'll go next to council
[2:01:25] member Whitburn Thank you.
[2:01:26] Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[2:01:26] very much for this update.
[2:01:29] I'm pleased to see that one of
[2:01:30] the biggest decreases in crime
[2:01:31] is right here in District three
[2:01:34] with a double digit drop.
[2:01:35] There's always more police
[2:01:35] volume downtown than other
[2:01:39] areas of the city with so much
[2:01:39] going on and people coming and
[2:01:40] going.
[2:01:41] But it is good to see those
[2:01:43] numbers moving in the right
[2:01:43] direction.
[2:01:44] It's also be good to see more
[2:01:45] and more people moving into
[2:01:48] the area which is something
[2:01:48] that is really indicative of
[2:01:52] the degree to people like
[2:01:53] living downtown and in
[2:01:54] the District three area.
[2:01:58] I appreciate you including an
[2:01:59] update on hate crimes and I
[2:02:00] want to thank the department
[2:02:03] for how seriously you take
[2:02:03] them.
[2:02:07] Captain Dobbs, Western Division
[2:02:08] is very good about letting me
[2:02:08] know about such incidents
[2:02:12] increasing patrols when they
[2:02:13] occur so that the community
[2:02:14] sees that the department is
[2:02:17] there to protect them.
[2:02:18] And keeping me posted on
[2:02:18] the progress of
[2:02:22] the investigations which is why
[2:02:22] I know that our technology
[2:02:26] helps to solve these crimes.
[2:02:27] I also want to thank Central
[2:02:28] Division and Beach City
[2:02:28] Division which also serve
[2:02:31] District three,
[2:02:32] the Neighborhood Policing
[2:02:33] Division which is very active
[2:02:36] in my district.
[2:02:37] The officers who police
[2:02:37] the Gaslamp, the officers here
[2:02:42] at City Hall who keep all of us
[2:02:42] safe and everyone at
[2:02:43] the department who works to
[2:02:47] keep my constituents safe.
[2:02:47] So thank you and thank you
[2:02:48] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[2:02:48] Thank you.
[2:02:52] Council Woodburn I think not
[2:02:52] seeing anybody else in
[2:02:53] the lights I gave away a lot of
[2:02:57] my time so I'll just close by
[2:02:57] thanking my colleagues for
[2:03:02] questions and comments and echo
[2:03:02] them.
[2:03:03] Thank you for the very good
[2:03:06] work you know we rely a lot on
[2:03:07] numbers and metrics and
[2:03:10] statistics to provide evidence
[2:03:11] for the good work that we know
[2:03:12] you're doing every day.
[2:03:12] You and the officers in
[2:03:16] the rank and file and we try to
[2:03:16] provide the resources that you
[2:03:20] need to do that work And I'm
[2:03:21] very proud of that.
[2:03:22] Mayor and the council for
[2:03:25] supporting you in that regards
[2:03:25] .
[2:03:26] As new things come up of new
[2:03:29] challenges present themselves,
[2:03:30] we look forward to hearing from
[2:03:31] you about what you need and not
[2:03:35] giving it to you in this
[2:03:36] difficult budget conversation.
[2:03:39] So that's just a joke folks.
[2:03:44] So I also look forward to
[2:03:45] the state of California
[2:03:45] figuring out sb 580 and
[2:03:49] actually giving us guidelines
[2:03:53] that actually amplifies sb 54
[2:03:53] and look forward to your work
[2:03:54] in how you implement that going
[2:03:57] forward.
[2:03:58] So as that becomes an
[2:03:58] increasing part of
[2:03:59] the distraction that you all
[2:04:03] face is what the federal
[2:04:03] government is doing.
[2:04:04] It's the sandbox we live in.
[2:04:07] We just have to navigate that
[2:04:08] And I know that you are
[2:04:08] thinking about that and take
[2:04:09] that very seriously.
[2:04:12] So again thank.
[2:04:12] Thank you Chief.
[2:04:13] Thank you to the staff.
[2:04:17] Thank you to the rank and file
[2:04:18] and the good work they do every
[2:04:18] day on our behalf.
[2:04:21] All right.
[2:04:22] That was an information item.
[2:04:23] No motion was required so we
[2:04:26] will move along.
[2:04:27] Clerk please introduce item.
[2:04:27] Scuse me.
[2:04:31] 202 Item 2a2 is the appeal of
[2:04:31] the environmental determination
[2:04:34] for 710 Garnet Avenue
[2:04:35] straighter Your project number
[2:04:38] p rj Dash 1126 697.
[2:04:39] This item is not subject to
[2:04:43] the mayor's veto.
[2:04:44] If you'd like to speak to this
[2:04:45] item please be sure to submit
[2:04:46] your speaker slip to the front
[2:04:48] of the room in the clear box.
[2:04:48] And if you are participating
[2:04:49] remotely now's the time to
[2:04:53] raise your hand by pressing
[2:04:53] Star nine or the raise your
[2:04:54] hand icon.
[2:04:54] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[2:04:58] Thank you City Clerk I wanted
[2:04:58] to make mention of staff
[2:05:01] proceeds up here especially for
[2:05:02] those of you that are either in
[2:05:03] chambers for the very first
[2:05:07] time or watching remotely for
[2:05:07] the very first time.
[2:05:08] There's been a lot of talk in
[2:05:11] the media about public
[2:05:12] participation, about some
[2:05:16] amendments to the Brown Act
[2:05:16] that everybody is working very
[2:05:17] hard to update that will not
[2:05:20] take effect until JULY 1st.
[2:05:21] We call this a quasi judicial
[2:05:25] hearing and we have a protocol
[2:05:25] that we have done for many,
[2:05:29] many years about these hearings
[2:05:30] and how this will proceed is
[2:05:35] that operations will make their
[2:05:40] presentation will have a
[2:05:40] statement by the city attorney,
[2:05:44] the appellant will go next.
[2:05:45] They'll have up to ten minutes
[2:05:50] for their presentation and we
[2:05:50] will then invite the applicant
[2:05:51] to come up and they will have
[2:05:55] an opportunity to be up to ten
[2:05:56] minutes to make a presentation
[2:05:59] and then we will turn it over
[2:06:00] to the rest of the public
[2:06:04] comment going forward.
[2:06:05] So with that staff and I see
[2:06:06] your seat there, introduce
[2:06:09] yourselves for the record and
[2:06:10] let us know how much time you
[2:06:10] need.
[2:06:11] >> Thank you.
[2:06:13] I'll need about seven minutes.
[2:06:18] >> All right.
[2:06:18] Good afternoon.
[2:06:19] Council PRESIDENT, council
[2:06:19] members and members of
[2:06:20] the public.
[2:06:22] I am Travis Cleveland
[2:06:23] Development Project manager for
[2:06:23] the 710 Garnett Street Re
[2:06:27] Environmental Appeal.
[2:06:28] With me today is Courtney
[2:06:29] Hallock with the Environmental
[2:06:32] Analysis Section at Development
[2:06:33] Services.
[2:06:33] Before I proceed I'd like to
[2:06:35] read a memorandum into
[2:06:40] the record.
[2:06:41] I sent this earlier today.
[2:06:41] The subject project initially
[2:06:45] requested approval of a 60 foot
[2:06:49] by 12 foot eight inch st3 for a
[2:06:50] total of 760ft.
[2:06:54] Environmental analysis was
[2:06:54] performed on this measurement
[2:06:55] which is also used in the staff
[2:06:56] report.
[2:06:59] However, the St3 area was
[2:07:00] actually reduced in the last
[2:07:03] submittal to 43ft by 12ft for a
[2:07:04] total of 516ft.
[2:07:08] This is accurately reflected in
[2:07:09] the latest copy of the project
[2:07:13] plans submitted to Development
[2:07:14] Services which I did attach to
[2:07:14] that memorandum.
[2:07:17] This does not alter
[2:07:17] the conclusion of staff's
[2:07:22] environmental determination.
[2:07:28] The item before you is an
[2:07:28] appeal of the environmental
[2:07:29] determination for an
[2:07:32] approximately 516 square foot
[2:07:37] street or outdoor seating area
[2:07:38] at an existing restaurant.
[2:07:38] The environmental determination
[2:07:42] was made OCTOBER 14th, 2025 and
[2:07:45] was appealed on OCTOBER 27th
[2:07:50] 2025.
[2:07:54] >> On JULY 29th 2020 the 710
[2:07:54] Beach Club was issued a
[2:07:58] temporary business operations
[2:07:58] permit under the city's
[2:08:03] emergency outdoor operations
[2:08:03] regulations allowing them to
[2:08:04] build and operate a street tree
[2:08:08] platform in the parking spaces
[2:08:08] in front of the business.
[2:08:12] In response to the coronavirus
[2:08:13] emergency of 2020, these
[2:08:17] regulations were refined as
[2:08:18] part of the Spaces as Places
[2:08:19] program approved by the City
[2:08:22] Council in NOVEMBER 2021
[2:08:23] effective at this location in
[2:08:27] the coastal zone.
[2:08:28] On AUGUST 10th 2023 once
[2:08:28] the new regulations were in
[2:08:32] effect building in land use
[2:08:33] enforcement or blue.
[2:08:34] Notified the business that they
[2:08:37] needed to remove the platform
[2:08:38] or either remove the platform
[2:08:42] or obtain the required permits
[2:08:43] under the Spaces Places program
[2:08:44] including a coastal development
[2:08:48] permit and a right of public
[2:08:48] right of way permit.
[2:08:52] Blue began actively enforcing
[2:08:55] the unpermitted St3 in OCTOBER
[2:08:56] 2024 due to delays in
[2:08:57] submitting the current Coastal
[2:09:00] Development Permit application
[2:09:00] which was deemed complete in
[2:09:05] DECEMBER of 2024 and SEPTEMBER
[2:09:05] 2025.
[2:09:06] The business agreed to shorten
[2:09:10] the platform pay exclusive use
[2:09:11] fees for the public right of
[2:09:11] way, open up the disabled
[2:09:15] parking spaces that they had
[2:09:15] previously blocked and keep
[2:09:19] the platform closed until
[2:09:20] proper permits could be issued.
[2:09:24] The platform remains existing
[2:09:25] but closed.
[2:09:25] This is allowed the platform to
[2:09:26] remain in the right of way
[2:09:27] while the permit applications
[2:09:32] were in the process.
[2:09:36] >> On OCTOBER 14th, 2025 city
[2:09:37] staff determined the project to
[2:09:37] be exempt from the California
[2:09:41] Environmental Quality Act or
[2:09:42] Sequa and any notice of Right
[2:09:46] to Appeal or Nora was prepared
[2:09:47] and posted in accordance with
[2:09:47] the municipal code.
[2:09:51] The Nora was also distributed
[2:09:52] to the Council district
[2:09:52] recognized community groups and
[2:09:56] any other applicable interested
[2:09:56] parties for a ten working day
[2:09:57] appeal period.
[2:10:01] As required by the Municipal
[2:10:01] Code.
[2:10:03] That period ended on OCTOBER
[2:10:07] 28th, 2025.
[2:10:13] The project The project was
[2:10:13] reviewed in accordance with
[2:10:14] the sica Statute and guidelines
[2:10:17] to determine if it would result
[2:10:18] in environmental impacts.
[2:10:19] Staff concluded that
[2:10:22] the project was categorically
[2:10:23] exempt from Sequa.
[2:10:24] Pursuant to section 1533 to
[2:10:27] infill development projects,
[2:10:27] Class 32 consists of projects
[2:10:32] characterized as infill
[2:10:32] development.
[2:10:33] Meeting the requirements of
[2:10:36] this section to qualify for
[2:10:37] the Infill Development project
[2:10:37] a categorical exemption
[2:10:41] the project must meet all five
[2:10:41] listed criteria.
[2:10:46] >> The St3 is an extension to a
[2:10:47] restaurant which is consistent
[2:10:48] with the Visitor Commercial
[2:10:53] Plan designation and zone.
[2:10:57] The project site is less than
[2:10:57] five five acres and is located
[2:11:01] in an urban and developed area
[2:11:01] .
[2:11:07] Because the site is entirely
[2:11:07] developed with urban uses it
[2:11:11] has no value for it.
[2:11:12] No value as habitat for
[2:11:12] endangered rare or threatened
[2:11:16] species.
[2:11:17] The project would not result in
[2:11:21] any significant effects related
[2:11:22] to traffic noise, air quality
[2:11:22] or water quality.
[2:11:26] The project meets the screening
[2:11:26] criteria for a small project
[2:11:27] per the city's transportation
[2:11:31] study manual and therefore
[2:11:31] would be presumed to be less
[2:11:32] than significant.
[2:11:35] The project with You're
[2:11:36] required to comply with all
[2:11:36] applicable local, state and
[2:11:41] federal regulations ensuring
[2:11:41] that impacts to noise air
[2:11:42] quality and water quality would
[2:11:44] be lessened Sniffing out
[2:11:50] the proposed project involves
[2:11:51] the development of a new 516
[2:11:55] square foot st3 as an extension
[2:11:55] of an existing commercial
[2:11:56] building.
[2:11:56] The st3 would result in no
[2:12:00] change in need for public
[2:12:01] services and the project site
[2:12:01] would continue to be adequately
[2:12:04] served.
[2:12:13] Pursuant to dmca section
[2:12:14] 112.0520 and Environmental
[2:12:17] Debris Determination Free
[2:12:17] process three project MAY be
[2:12:18] appealed to the City Council
[2:12:19] subject to the underlying
[2:12:22] requirements which match
[2:12:23] the boxes checked on the appeal
[2:12:23] form.
[2:12:27] Filed appeals typically attach
[2:12:27] supporting information and or
[2:12:28] supporting documents.
[2:12:31] However, as filed the appeal
[2:12:32] checked only the boxes on
[2:12:32] the form and the appellant
[2:12:33] provided no further support.
[2:12:36] The appeal provided no
[2:12:37] explanation documentation or
[2:12:41] substantial evidence to support
[2:12:41] the claim that a factual error
[2:12:42] has occurred.
[2:12:43] The appeal does not provide any
[2:12:46] new information or substantial
[2:12:47] evidence to support a
[2:12:47] reasonable possibility that
[2:12:51] the project will have
[2:12:51] significant effect on
[2:12:52] the environment.
[2:12:53] The appeal does not demonstrate
[2:12:56] a conflict with any other
[2:12:56] matters.
[2:12:57] The appeal does not provide any
[2:12:57] substantial evidence
[2:13:01] demonstrating that the findings
[2:13:02] for the application of
[2:13:02] the infill exemption have not
[2:13:05] been met.
[2:13:06] If the environmental appeal is
[2:13:10] resolved the project must
[2:13:11] obtain a coastal development
[2:13:12] permit Future Hearing officer
[2:13:15] decision appealable to
[2:13:16] the Planning Commission.
[2:13:16] The project is in the Coastal
[2:13:17] Commission's Appeal
[2:13:20] jurisdiction so the city's I'm
[2:13:21] almost done.
[2:13:21] So the city's final decision is
[2:13:25] also appealable to the Coastal
[2:13:25] Commission.
[2:13:26] It must obtain a public right
[2:13:27] of way permit if the coastal
[2:13:30] development permit is issued
[2:13:30] and it must remain in
[2:13:31] compliance with all permit
[2:13:34] conditions.
[2:13:34] The administrative record
[2:13:35] demonstrates that the project
[2:13:36] would not have a significant
[2:13:38] impact on the environment.
[2:13:39] No evidence or documentation
[2:13:40] was provided related to any of
[2:13:43] the appeal grounds asserted as
[2:13:44] to factual error new
[2:13:44] information conflict with other
[2:13:45] matters or findings not
[2:13:48] supported.
[2:13:49] Staff therefore recommend that
[2:13:50] the City Council deny
[2:13:50] the appeal and approve
[2:13:53] the environment determination.
[2:13:53] Thank you.
[2:13:54] All right.
[2:13:54] Thank you for the work and for
[2:13:58] your presentation.
[2:13:59] As I noted before we hear from
[2:13:59] the applicant and
[2:14:00] the appellant.
[2:14:03] I'll turn it over to the office
[2:14:03] of the City Attorney.
[2:14:04] >> Thank you.
[2:14:07] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:14:08] The legal standard of review
[2:14:08] for environmental environmental
[2:14:12] appeals is de novo.
[2:14:12] That means the council must
[2:14:16] exercise independent judgment
[2:14:17] based on the record for today's
[2:14:18] item As to whether that Council
[2:14:22] agrees with the environmental
[2:14:23] determination.
[2:14:26] The project is not before you
[2:14:27] today.
[2:14:27] A court will uphold
[2:14:28] the Council's decision if it is
[2:14:32] supported by substantial
[2:14:32] evidence in the record.
[2:14:33] That concludes my comments.
[2:14:36] Thank you.
[2:14:37] All right.
[2:14:40] Thank you Leslie, for that
[2:14:41] opening statement.
[2:14:42] So now we will hear from
[2:14:46] the appellant on the item.
[2:14:47] Please come up to the mic.
[2:14:47] Introduce yourself for
[2:14:51] the record and you will have up
[2:14:51] to ten minutes to make your
[2:14:52] presentation.
[2:14:55] Well, we are here to give you
[2:15:00] the evidence to 710.
[2:15:01] By the way, I'm Scott Chipman.
[2:15:05] You probably remember me.
[2:15:05] 50 plus year resident of
[2:15:09] Pacific Beach Been on
[2:15:10] the planning group about 20
[2:15:13] years off and on and the 710
[2:15:14] Club Street Re did come to
[2:15:15] the planning group and it was
[2:15:18] voted unanimously to deny
[2:15:19] the project.
[2:15:23] The 710 has not been a good
[2:15:23] neighbor.
[2:15:24] They've been a horrible
[2:15:25] neighbor to hundreds of
[2:15:25] residents across the street and
[2:15:28] see the sea condominiums as
[2:15:28] well as to people wanting to
[2:15:32] enjoy a walk on the boardwalk
[2:15:33] at night And the guests and
[2:15:37] employees of Crystal Pier
[2:15:37] Hotel.
[2:15:38] Thank you for putting up
[2:15:42] the PowerPoint.
[2:15:42] For decades the nearby
[2:15:43] businesses and residents have
[2:15:46] been subjected to amplified
[2:15:47] noise deejays amplified music
[2:15:51] amplified obscenities amplified
[2:15:51] vulgarities.
[2:15:52] They have filed complaints,
[2:15:53] made calls for service and have
[2:15:57] gone have even gone to court
[2:15:57] including mediation but have
[2:16:01] had no or only sporadic relief.
[2:16:02] Now the community is threatened
[2:16:06] by an expansion onto
[2:16:06] the sidewalk and into
[2:16:07] the street of the very problems
[2:16:10] that they have been plagued
[2:16:11] with for decades.
[2:16:15] But we are not here to just say
[2:16:16] again that this is a bad bar
[2:16:20] but that 710 does not qualify
[2:16:21] for a secret exemption.
[2:16:25] As a matter of law under secure
[2:16:25] exemptions are to be
[2:16:30] interpreted narrowly and
[2:16:31] the burden is on the city to
[2:16:31] show the exemption applies.
[2:16:35] Following my presentation you
[2:16:35] will hear from neighbors who
[2:16:40] are representative examples of
[2:16:40] those directly impacted.
[2:16:45] There are several reasons
[2:16:46] the exemption does not apply.
[2:16:49] One there are unusual
[2:16:49] circumstances.
[2:16:50] There is an unusual
[2:16:54] circumstance exception in
[2:16:55] sequel to the cumulative
[2:16:58] exception.
[2:16:59] Three Coastal access and
[2:17:03] Parking impacts And for
[2:17:04] the Fair Argument Standard Next
[2:17:08] slide the unusual circumstances
[2:17:08] exception.
[2:17:14] Even if the city relies on a
[2:17:15] categorical exemption cannot
[2:17:18] apply if there is a reasonable
[2:17:19] possibility of a significant
[2:17:22] environmental impact due to
[2:17:22] unusual circumstances.
[2:17:27] Next slide.
[2:17:33] Hundreds of noise complaints
[2:17:34] Thousands over thousands over
[2:17:34] the decades.
[2:17:37] >> a superior court mandated
[2:17:42] mediation agreement.
[2:17:43] >> a known history of violating
[2:17:47] sound content containment
[2:17:47] requirements.
[2:17:48] A lack of air conditioning
[2:17:48] which was required by
[2:17:52] the mediation leading to open
[2:17:52] doors windows during amplified
[2:17:55] entertainment.
[2:18:00] Next slide incident reports.
[2:18:03] This is just a few months.
[2:18:08] Next slide.
[2:18:09] Next slide.
[2:18:13] I'm sorry.
[2:18:13] One moment.
[2:18:14] We're having some technical
[2:18:18] difficulties.
[2:18:19] We will pass your time.
[2:18:19] Thank you.
[2:18:23] And are we good?
[2:18:24] Okay.
[2:18:24] We're good.
[2:18:24] Okay.
[2:18:25] Yeah.
[2:18:28] It looks the same because these
[2:18:33] continue page after page after
[2:18:33] page.
[2:18:34] Next slide, please.
[2:18:34] Okay.
[2:18:38] Residents indicate there's no
[2:18:39] point in calling for incident
[2:18:39] numbers.
[2:18:40] Most of the time no one comes.
[2:18:41] No one does anything.
[2:18:43] Wait.
[2:18:44] Time is too long to stay on
[2:18:45] the phone for hours and wait to
[2:18:48] file a report.
[2:18:49] The majority of time they give
[2:18:56] up they do not report the noise
[2:18:56] .
[2:18:57] Next slide.
[2:18:57] Okay.
[2:19:02] These are the usual
[2:19:02] circumstances.
[2:19:03] Next slide.
[2:19:06] Okay.
[2:19:07] You can see this is the venue
[2:19:12] from across the street in
[2:19:12] the condos.
[2:19:16] Open doors open skylights.
[2:19:22] Next slide.
[2:19:22] >> So this is not a small
[2:19:23] sidewalk cafe expansion.
[2:19:27] It's an expansion of a high
[2:19:27] conflict historically
[2:19:28] non-compliant entertainment
[2:19:32] venue with documented noise
[2:19:33] impacts.
[2:19:33] Courts have held that when
[2:19:37] there is evidence of a
[2:19:38] reasonable possibility of
[2:19:42] significant noise impacts an
[2:19:43] exemption cannot stand.
[2:19:47] We do not have to prove impacts
[2:19:48] will occur occur only that
[2:19:49] there is substantial evidence
[2:19:53] they MAY occur but that is
[2:19:54] obvious.
[2:19:54] Next slide.
[2:19:59] Cumulative impacts Exception An
[2:20:03] exemption cannot be used if
[2:20:04] cumulative impacts are
[2:20:08] significant and we have years
[2:20:09] of cumulative impacts as well
[2:20:13] As we all know that this area
[2:20:14] has nightlife concentration.
[2:20:19] Seriously high crime and there
[2:20:20] was a prior court involvement.
[2:20:24] Next slide.
[2:20:29] So here are the crime stats
[2:20:29] 7905 2200 times.
[2:20:34] Citywide average crime.
[2:20:35] And much of it occurs in
[2:20:39] the street right in front of
[2:20:40] this venue.
[2:20:44] Next slide Everyone knows
[2:20:45] the parking scarcity near
[2:20:45] the beach.
[2:20:50] Next slide.
[2:20:50] This is a letter from
[2:20:54] the Coastal Commission
[2:21:00] indicating that within
[2:21:05] the coastal zone they must
[2:21:10] replace the parking.
[2:21:11] So if there's 5 or 6 parking
[2:21:15] spaces they have to be replaced
[2:21:15] .
[2:21:22] The coastal access impact This
[2:21:23] street removes public parking.
[2:21:27] Converts public right of way to
[2:21:28] private commercial use and
[2:21:29] potentially affects beach
[2:21:33] access.
[2:21:39] Next slide Consider
[2:21:45] the historic Crystal Pier
[2:21:45] allows the public to go out
[2:21:50] sightsee, look at the ocean and
[2:21:50] fish.
[2:21:51] Parking elsewhere still reduces
[2:21:56] parking availability here and
[2:21:56] to the boardwalk nearby.
[2:22:01] The city has failed to analyze
[2:22:01] whether replacement parking
[2:22:06] fully mitigates access impacts
[2:22:06] .
[2:22:07] The exemption improperly
[2:22:07] avoided environmental review of
[2:22:09] coastal access impacts.
[2:22:13] Next slide.
[2:22:19] Next slide.
[2:22:20] >> There's also a change of
[2:22:20] the intensity of use expanding
[2:22:24] the seating capacity actually
[2:22:25] increases the demand for
[2:22:30] parking on that block.
[2:22:30] Increased outdoor congregation
[2:22:35] The sidewalks are already often
[2:22:36] crowded and impassable.
[2:22:36] Potential for increased noise
[2:22:40] spillover.
[2:22:41] Increased demand for parking as
[2:22:42] more patrons are accommodated
[2:22:42] in.
[2:22:45] If you have ever heard of
[2:22:46] the term beer mussels that's a
[2:22:47] very common thing that happens
[2:22:47] in pub.
[2:22:51] You're walking down
[2:22:52] the sidewalk, it gets crowded.
[2:22:52] You decide you'll just bump up
[2:22:57] against a guy and see how he'll
[2:22:58] react If you don't like his
[2:23:01] reaction in becomes a fake.
[2:23:07] Next slide.
[2:23:08] There's strong evidence that
[2:23:08] this operator will not be
[2:23:13] compliant with the idea that
[2:23:14] they're going to comply with
[2:23:18] the noise city's noise
[2:23:19] regulations.
[2:23:23] I'm sorry that's embarrassing
[2:23:24] The city has not.
[2:23:24] We already heard from
[2:23:25] the police chief.
[2:23:26] These are not high priority
[2:23:29] calls.
[2:23:30] So they just stack up and stack
[2:23:33] up and stack up and frustrate
[2:23:34] the residents and
[2:23:39] the businesses nearby.
[2:23:44] Next slide.
[2:23:45] This is the calendar of abuse.
[2:23:50] We understand they want to have
[2:23:51] entertainment but
[2:23:51] the entertainment can't come at
[2:23:56] the expense of your quiet
[2:23:57] enjoyment To be able to watch
[2:24:02] tv or sleep in your own abode.
[2:24:07] Next slide.
[2:24:08] This is amazing.
[2:24:13] A handicapped space was removed
[2:24:13] so that they could expand or
[2:24:14] create a street.
[2:24:19] Obviously it was put back when
[2:24:19] residents filed a complaint.
[2:24:24] So what's going on here?
[2:24:25] Surreptitiously moving a
[2:24:25] handicapped parking space for
[2:24:30] your own financial gain.
[2:24:31] I'd be curious what kind of
[2:24:36] enforcement or penalty that
[2:24:36] that caused.
[2:24:41] Next slide.
[2:24:42] The sidewalk has become a venue
[2:24:47] and that's can be okay but not
[2:24:48] to this extreme.
[2:24:48] Next slide.
[2:24:58] TVs and speakers mounted on
[2:24:59] the sidewalk basically saying
[2:24:59] this is our sidewalk.
[2:25:05] It's not public.
[2:25:06] >> It's not a public access.
[2:25:07] Scott, you're going to run out
[2:25:11] of time So I'll give you an
[2:25:12] opportunity for a conclusion.
[2:25:12] I'll wrap up.
[2:25:13] Thank you.
[2:25:14] A concluding statement You had
[2:25:15] your ten minutes.
[2:25:15] Thank you.
[2:25:16] The exemption cannot apply due
[2:25:20] to the unusual circumstances.
[2:25:21] The substantial evidence of
[2:25:21] potential significant noise
[2:25:26] impacts the cumulative impacts
[2:25:26] and the parking loss in
[2:25:27] the coastal zone.
[2:25:27] The city cannot rely on
[2:25:32] replacement parking without
[2:25:32] analysis.
[2:25:33] We're just asking for analysis,
[2:25:34] not an exemption.
[2:25:34] Thank you.
[2:25:38] All right.
[2:25:39] Thank you for the presentation.
[2:25:40] Now I'll invite the applicant.
[2:25:44] You will also have up to ten
[2:25:45] minutes to make your
[2:25:45] presentation.
[2:25:45] I don't know who
[2:25:46] the spokesperson for
[2:25:50] the applicant is.
[2:25:51] I thought there was a
[2:25:55] presentation by the applicant.
[2:26:02] I believe you have a slide deck
[2:26:03] as well.
[2:26:03] There you go.
[2:26:04] I have one slide.
[2:26:04] There you go.
[2:26:09] All right.
[2:26:09] English is off the record and
[2:26:10] let us know.
[2:26:10] You have up to ten minutes.
[2:26:13] So my name's Scott Slager,
[2:26:19] owner of 17 Beach Club for 36
[2:26:19] years, started as an engineer
[2:26:20] in L.A. And came down to San
[2:26:25] Diego to do some work and
[2:26:25] bought a bar by the bar And ppb
[2:26:31] spent a lot of time in ppb
[2:26:31] because I was 26 years old and
[2:26:32] I love music.
[2:26:36] Big fan of Live entertainment.
[2:26:37] I owned two music clubs in San
[2:26:38] Diego and I do a lot of music
[2:26:42] production in the city of San
[2:26:43] Diego.
[2:26:43] I believe that contrary to some
[2:26:49] of the statements that have
[2:26:49] been made today, I've done
[2:26:50] everything I can in
[2:26:55] the commercial zone with a
[2:26:55] license that I paid dearly for
[2:26:59] for live entertainment to be
[2:27:00] there at 710 Garnet And it was
[2:27:01] there prior to that for 30
[2:27:05] years prior to the condominium
[2:27:06] complex that got built across
[2:27:06] the street.
[2:27:11] So I believe that as long as I
[2:27:12] haven't had a violation in
[2:27:13] the last 35 years which is
[2:27:17] the case, I do have the right I
[2:27:18] believe to operate within my
[2:27:21] permits.
[2:27:28] So having said that,
[2:27:29] the handicapped parking issue
[2:27:29] is the only thing I want to
[2:27:30] address from what MR. Shipman
[2:27:30] talked about.
[2:27:34] I did that legally through dsd.
[2:27:34] Everything was done.
[2:27:40] It was not serendipitous.
[2:27:40] I've never done anything
[2:27:41] illegal.
[2:27:41] Okay.
[2:27:46] So with that being said, I'll
[2:27:46] give you a little bit of
[2:27:47] history About 710 Beach Club it
[2:27:52] used to be by Mellons I named
[2:27:53] it by Melinda in 1989.
[2:27:54] It was a blues club when I
[2:27:58] purchased it.
[2:27:59] The bar that existed was called
[2:27:59] Bangers.
[2:27:59] Bangers was basically a
[2:28:00] motorcycle club.
[2:28:05] I eradicate it that I try to
[2:28:05] eliminate the noise because I
[2:28:06] was getting calls for service
[2:28:10] from the motorcycles daily.
[2:28:16] Ultimately I got embroiled in
[2:28:22] what you would call politics
[2:28:23] and I became the PRESIDENT Of
[2:28:24] the largest business
[2:28:24] improvement association in
[2:28:29] the United States 20 2200
[2:28:29] businesses.
[2:28:33] I spoke right here in 1995 to
[2:28:34] create the largest bid as I was
[2:28:35] the PRESIDENT And that took
[2:28:35] four years of my life.
[2:28:39] During that time I actually
[2:28:40] created a nonprofit that
[2:28:45] created Census Patrol pieces of
[2:28:45] patrol.
[2:28:46] We were the ones that actually
[2:28:47] caught the pd rapist.
[2:28:51] I was instrumental in that part
[2:28:52] because the pd Rapist was a
[2:28:53] band member playing in my clubs
[2:28:57] at the time.
[2:28:58] We work with the fbi so I am a
[2:28:58] community guy from that
[2:28:59] perspective.
[2:29:03] I followed that with 15 years
[2:29:04] of being a director on the Food
[2:29:05] and Beverage Society of San
[2:29:09] Diego.
[2:29:10] So I do put my time into
[2:29:15] the community in Ocean Beach
[2:29:16] way on my other bar called
[2:29:16] Winstons.
[2:29:17] My partner and I are actively
[2:29:21] involved in all the community
[2:29:22] groups and we have raised
[2:29:22] hundreds of thousands of
[2:29:23] dollars through our bar and our
[2:29:28] events to add to that community
[2:29:28] success.
[2:29:33] I started working with
[2:29:34] the Wounded Warrior Freedom
[2:29:38] Station Wounded Warriors about
[2:29:38] ten years ago.
[2:29:39] You'll hear from the director
[2:29:40] sometime today.
[2:29:44] i've raised over $100,000 for
[2:29:45] that organization through my
[2:29:50] businesses so I'm just trying
[2:29:51] to say to you Council that I do
[2:29:55] have the right, I believe to do
[2:29:56] what I'm doing And a couple of
[2:29:57] really interesting things that
[2:30:02] occurred over the last 30
[2:30:02] years.
[2:30:03] I don't even own the building
[2:30:03] there yet.
[2:30:07] I had to put $150,000 into a
[2:30:07] complete remodel to try to
[2:30:13] reduce noise.
[2:30:13] I happened to be an engineer.
[2:30:14] I understand sound.
[2:30:17] We by doing that $150,000 out
[2:30:21] of my pocket we reduce
[2:30:22] the sound by three db which is
[2:30:22] double the power.
[2:30:28] Later I actually added air
[2:30:28] conditioning and large they
[2:30:33] call them big fans to reduce
[2:30:33] my.
[2:30:34] I guess conceptually if I have
[2:30:35] to open doors and windows when
[2:30:40] it's hot in the summer I don't
[2:30:40] have that problem anymore.
[2:30:41] Scott Shachtman did mention
[2:30:45] about I did have a speaker
[2:30:46] pointed outside to the street
[2:30:46] during covid.
[2:30:51] I was desperate.
[2:30:52] I wanted people to enjoy
[2:30:52] outdoors.
[2:30:56] I was losing $60,000 a month
[2:30:57] with no income through my four
[2:31:01] enterprises during covid.
[2:31:02] And to that end, if you look at
[2:31:03] the slide up here, all I'm
[2:31:08] trying to do is get a street
[2:31:12] reopened and I have already
[2:31:13] spent $125,000 and I have been
[2:31:18] closed since APRIL of last
[2:31:18] year.
[2:31:23] It's just sitting there And
[2:31:24] during this $125,000
[2:31:24] expenditure there were people
[2:31:29] from dsd specifically to Carrie
[2:31:30] Lindsay that literally told me
[2:31:35] i had to pay $57,000 at
[2:31:36] the time to not remove my
[2:31:40] street three 57,000 for back
[2:31:40] rent during covid.
[2:31:46] So I don't know how many of you
[2:31:53] own a business during covid but
[2:31:54] I almost lost everything and
[2:32:03] here I am for a simple theory
[2:32:09] that All right, thank you for
[2:32:10] your presentation.
[2:32:16] >> We're going to hear a lot
[2:32:16] more things you like and you
[2:32:17] dislike Thumbs up, thumbs down
[2:32:18] really helps us move right
[2:32:20] along.
[2:32:21] Thank you for the presentation
[2:32:22] And with that clerk please
[2:32:27] proceed with public comment.
[2:32:28] >> Council PRESIDENT Before I
[2:32:29] begin I will note that we will
[2:32:29] be a minute per person.
[2:32:33] We do have several speakers
[2:32:34] here to speak on this item But
[2:32:34] one housekeeping thing.
[2:32:35] I know there is confusion
[2:32:39] understanding if you're in
[2:32:39] favor or in opposition
[2:32:40] the speakership should be if
[2:32:41] you're in favor of the staff
[2:32:44] recommendation or in opposition
[2:32:45] of the staff recommendation.
[2:32:46] The staff recommendation is to
[2:32:46] deny the appeal.
[2:32:51] Everyone submitted a request to
[2:32:51] speak in favor.
[2:32:52] So we just want to make sure if
[2:32:53] when you come up to your to
[2:32:56] the lectern to please say if
[2:32:57] you're in favor or in
[2:32:58] opposition so that I can get
[2:32:58] that appropriately for
[2:32:59] the record.
[2:33:03] So if you're in favor or you're
[2:33:03] in favor of the denial of
[2:33:04] the appeal.
[2:33:04] If you're in opposition, you're
[2:33:08] in opposition of the staff
[2:33:09] recommendation which is denial
[2:33:09] of the appeal starting with
[2:33:15] rent garage.
[2:33:15] If you can please come up to
[2:33:16] the microphone after that is
[2:33:17] requested.
[2:33:17] If you can please come up to
[2:33:20] the other reserved seats at
[2:33:20] the front.
[2:33:21] Then we have Dale Gauthier,
[2:33:26] Candy Hogan, Willis Allen not
[2:33:33] seeing anybody get up is our
[2:33:38] usher our emg, a r a j?
[2:33:39] We had to leave.
[2:33:39] Okay.
[2:33:44] Ritesh, are you here?
[2:33:51] Okay, Dale, you have time to go
[2:33:51] To you by Gordon.
[2:33:52] MISS Gordon Still here?
[2:33:56] Gordon For for Lucca?
[2:33:56] Yes.
[2:33:57] I just need you to raise your
[2:34:00] hand so if you're here you'll
[2:34:01] have two minutes.
[2:34:01] >> Please proceed.
[2:34:02] All right.
[2:34:03] I am in opposition to the staff
[2:34:08] recommendation.
[2:34:08] Thank you.
[2:34:09] Whatever that was, that works
[2:34:09] out okay.
[2:34:14] Good afternoon, Council members
[2:34:14] Staff.
[2:34:15] My name is Dale Gauthier and
[2:34:19] I'm representing myself as an
[2:34:20] owner of property in the c
[2:34:25] Condominiums which are directly
[2:34:26] across Garnett from the 710
[2:34:32] kept hearing it called a
[2:34:32] restaurant.
[2:34:32] It's a bar.
[2:34:33] I have owned my property for
[2:34:37] more than a decade and
[2:34:38] the impact this bar has had on
[2:34:38] my property and quality of life
[2:34:39] in that neighborhood is
[2:34:43] indescribable.
[2:34:44] The loud raucous music at all
[2:34:44] hours they're open but
[2:34:49] particularly at night the music
[2:34:50] is blasting and even worse with
[2:34:50] live bands.
[2:34:51] There's vulgarity, sidewalk
[2:34:56] fights, public intoxication of
[2:34:57] the century 710 at night that
[2:35:02] we're all subject to.
[2:35:02] Not only does this 17 ownership
[2:35:07] and management allow this
[2:35:08] behavior, they actively act to
[2:35:09] amplify the behavior resulting
[2:35:13] in direct threats to public
[2:35:13] safety.
[2:35:14] This is not your neighborhood
[2:35:15] Cheers Bar As you've heard from
[2:35:19] others or from scouts
[2:35:20] presentations doors windows are
[2:35:25] often left open with plastic
[2:35:25] music coming out.
[2:35:26] The proposed street bar will
[2:35:31] only make noise levels to
[2:35:32] the neighborhood and that we
[2:35:33] experience worse because
[2:35:37] the food, the food and beverage
[2:35:38] servers will have to have
[2:35:38] egress ingress to the bar to
[2:35:44] deliver the services to
[2:35:49] the street bar as it is now
[2:35:49] the property values on
[2:35:50] the north side of the building
[2:35:51] are devalued over the rest of
[2:35:51] the units in the building.
[2:35:56] If you look at historical
[2:35:56] resale prices, they're
[2:35:57] typically 4 to $500,000 less.
[2:36:01] Not because of ocean view
[2:36:02] differences because of this 710
[2:36:08] bar when when our building was
[2:36:08] originally built cool ocean
[2:36:09] breezes we didn't need it.
[2:36:13] Now we have to have all
[2:36:13] the windows and sliders closed.
[2:36:14] >> Thank you for that
[2:36:14] concluding remark.
[2:36:15] Your time has come.
[2:36:20] Strongly urged the county Hogan
[2:36:21] County Hogan to the following
[2:36:21] Individuals can please raise
[2:36:25] their hands.
[2:36:25] Kathleen Lippert, thank you.
[2:36:26] You'll have two minutes if you
[2:36:31] can If you need anything over
[2:36:32] here.
[2:36:32] Yes.
[2:36:33] You'll give it to my staff.
[2:36:33] They'll get it.
[2:36:34] They'll get it distributed.
[2:36:35] You to polygraphs.
[2:36:42] I'd like better if it's ever
[2:36:42] here.
[2:36:42] You'll have two minutes.
[2:36:43] Please proceed.
[2:36:44] If you can go to the higher
[2:36:48] microphone will capture you a
[2:36:48] little bit better.
[2:36:48] Thank you.
[2:36:49] Well, first of all, I want to
[2:36:53] thank you all for your hard
[2:36:53] work.
[2:36:54] I know that's a thankless job
[2:36:59] sitting up there so I.
[2:37:00] I really appreciate it.
[2:37:00] If you look at the photos,
[2:37:01] you'll see that the building is
[2:37:05] across the street from 76
[2:37:05] condos.
[2:37:06] These homeowners have paid
[2:37:10] taxes and supported the city
[2:37:11] several years back.
[2:37:12] We went to mediation for a full
[2:37:12] year.
[2:37:17] We're told that if we did they
[2:37:17] would do something about
[2:37:18] the noise.
[2:37:18] We all gave up time and
[2:37:23] everything just to go to
[2:37:24] mediation 710 Club because
[2:37:24] the decibel readings in
[2:37:29] the condo that I owned at night
[2:37:33] were above inside my condo 65db
[2:37:34] at night my floor actually you
[2:37:39] could hear every single
[2:37:40] drumbeat They would leave
[2:37:41] the doors open, the skylight
[2:37:46] open and after a year of
[2:37:47] mediation the owner said he
[2:37:52] admitted that he wanted to play
[2:37:53] the music out to attract
[2:37:53] the patrons from the other
[2:37:54] bars.
[2:37:57] It was agreed upon that they
[2:37:58] would close the doors and shut
[2:37:58] everything during the time of
[2:37:59] amplified music.
[2:38:03] It wasn't a real solution
[2:38:04] because now they have all
[2:38:05] the opening and every time they
[2:38:09] open the doors all the time
[2:38:10] still comes out and they kept
[2:38:11] the skylight open no matter
[2:38:15] what we did And how many times
[2:38:16] they called it wouldn't it has
[2:38:17] not stopped over years.
[2:38:22] Please consider the 76
[2:38:22] homeowners of this of these
[2:38:27] condominiums across this small
[2:38:28] street and realize that a 17
[2:38:29] club is not an owner of
[2:38:34] the real estate But we we who
[2:38:34] paid hundreds of thousands of
[2:38:39] dollars in property tax are
[2:38:40] being affected very horribly
[2:38:46] negatively Please help us Also
[2:38:47] I don't know if you know
[2:38:47] additionally you'll see in
[2:38:48] the pictures they are now
[2:38:53] serving beer And thank you for
[2:38:54] the on the street comment on
[2:38:55] the site Your time has come.
[2:38:55] Thank you.
[2:39:00] Thank you.
[2:39:01] Well if Alan Well as you have
[2:39:02] time to go to my Claudia Alan
[2:39:04] can please raise your hand.
[2:39:05] >> Thank you.
[2:39:05] You'll have two minutes.
[2:39:06] Thank you very much.
[2:39:06] Council PRESIDENT Council
[2:39:10] members My name as well as
[2:39:11] Alan.
[2:39:11] I'm representing the ownership
[2:39:12] of Crystal Pier Hotel and
[2:39:16] Cottages and Pacific Beach.
[2:39:16] We're adjacent to the 17 Beach
[2:39:17] Club at 710 Garnet I'm here to
[2:39:22] respectfully request that you
[2:39:23] grant for our appeal and deny
[2:39:28] any continued legal exemption
[2:39:28] for the 710 Club St3 our hotel
[2:39:29] and the large condominium
[2:39:34] building directly across
[2:39:34] the street have endured endured
[2:39:35] significant adverse impact from
[2:39:39] this bar for over 35 years and
[2:39:39] those impacts have been
[2:39:44] intensified Not relieved by
[2:39:45] this retreat.
[2:39:45] First the noise during the day
[2:39:50] and late night disruption or
[2:39:51] constant noise from the parties
[2:39:51] patrons is so bad that our
[2:39:56] front staff has to close
[2:39:57] the doors of the office of
[2:39:58] the hotel, go into the back
[2:39:58] office to try to speak to
[2:40:02] customers.
[2:40:02] We've had to extend our
[2:40:03] security guard hours simply to
[2:40:09] deal with the noise and unruly
[2:40:09] patrons at the bar closing.
[2:40:10] This is not compatible with a
[2:40:14] visitor serving coastal hotel
[2:40:15] or with residents trying to
[2:40:15] live and sleep in a condominium
[2:40:20] across the street.
[2:40:21] Secondly, there is a direct
[2:40:21] economic and quality of life
[2:40:26] harm We have had to comp rooms
[2:40:27] and provide discounts to guests
[2:40:32] who were disrupted by noise and
[2:40:33] bad behavior associated with
[2:40:33] this bar.
[2:40:37] Guests were kept away awake,
[2:40:38] feel unsafe and they don't
[2:40:43] really return.
[2:40:44] They don't rebook and with all
[2:40:45] these negative experiences they
[2:40:45] share with other people.
[2:40:50] So it's kind of damaging to a
[2:40:50] longstanding business.
[2:40:54] The hotel's been in business
[2:40:54] consistently for 90 years This
[2:40:55] year the condominium residents
[2:41:00] likewise they live with these
[2:41:01] impacts night after night, day
[2:41:01] after day with no ability to
[2:41:02] check out when it becomes
[2:41:07] intolerable.
[2:41:07] Thirdly, this really worsens
[2:41:08] parking and circulation of our
[2:41:13] Annette That's that was two
[2:41:14] minutes Thank you for your
[2:41:14] concluding comment.
[2:41:15] Okay but also I have also had
[2:41:16] the opportunity so you get
[2:41:18] the point.
[2:41:18] Thank you.
[2:41:18] Holly Birch.
[2:41:19] Holly Cherry Thomas you did
[2:41:19] your time.
[2:41:23] Thank you very much.
[2:41:23] You'll have two minutes.
[2:41:30] Please let me know and present
[2:41:31] the hoa at cdc condos.
[2:41:31] I've lived there since 1982.
[2:41:35] The condominiums were built in
[2:41:35] 1972.
[2:41:40] We had a card room across
[2:41:40] the street from us.
[2:41:41] 25 years later Scott Legere put
[2:41:42] in the Blind Melon 710 bar.
[2:41:45] So as far as who was there
[2:41:46] first it was us.
[2:41:47] By 25 years we had a mediation
[2:41:47] agreement.
[2:41:52] Scott agreed during mediation
[2:41:53] agreement with the judge to
[2:41:53] keep all the doors windows
[2:41:54] closed and the vents and
[2:41:57] install an ac.
[2:41:58] There's no ac that's working.
[2:41:59] Doors and windows are always
[2:41:59] open.
[2:42:04] We are subjected to.
[2:42:05] He also promised that he would
[2:42:05] answer the phone when we would
[2:42:06] call.
[2:42:10] Not only does that not happen
[2:42:10] if you do manage to get through
[2:42:13] you're called every name in
[2:42:14] the book.
[2:42:15] One other thing I want you to
[2:42:16] know is that we have a theme
[2:42:19] song of the 710 bar and this is
[2:42:19] what we get to listen to And
[2:42:24] this is played during the day
[2:42:25] and it's by a guy called f Roll
[2:42:26] Man and it's called Because I
[2:42:31] Got high and this is what we
[2:42:31] hear.
[2:42:32] And so the children can hear
[2:42:32] this in our neighborhood.
[2:42:37] You guys should be able to hear
[2:42:37] it too.
[2:42:38] i could've cheated that I could
[2:42:39] have passed but I got high.
[2:42:39] I was going to go to court
[2:42:40] before I got high.
[2:42:42] I was going to pay my child
[2:42:43] support but when I got there I
[2:42:43] got high.
[2:42:44] I was going to run for the cops
[2:42:48] but I was high.
[2:42:49] I was going to make love to you
[2:42:49] And then I got high.
[2:42:50] I was going to eat your but
[2:42:53] then I got high.
[2:42:54] >> Now I'm jacking off and I
[2:42:55] know why This is what we hear
[2:42:59] every day.
[2:43:00] This theme song great for kids
[2:43:00] and tourists.
[2:43:06] I urge you not to read the sex
[2:43:06] exemption.
[2:43:07] We've been there 25 years
[2:43:11] before them had no problem.
[2:43:12] We're surrounded by bars.
[2:43:17] The hideaway pool house, you
[2:43:18] name it.
[2:43:18] There's only one bar we have a
[2:43:19] problem with and we're actually
[2:43:23] closer to the other bars.
[2:43:24] >> But this is the one That's
[2:43:24] the one that's causing us
[2:43:25] trouble.
[2:43:30] Thank you.
[2:43:30] >> Well, you caught me by
[2:43:31] surprise.
[2:43:31] There are children occasionally
[2:43:35] listening to these council
[2:43:36] meetings as well.
[2:43:36] Please keep that in mind.
[2:43:42] You can make your point.
[2:43:43] Know if I can have
[2:43:44] the following individuals
[2:43:47] please come up to the yellow
[2:43:48] reserved seats Denise Friedman
[2:43:49] and Scott Shepherd Patti
[2:43:54] Gullickson and Craig Ferguson.
[2:43:55] If you can all please come up
[2:43:56] to the yellow reserved seats
[2:44:00] And Denise you can come up to
[2:44:00] the microphone.
[2:44:01] And then I'd also ask as Denise
[2:44:01] makes her way up to
[2:44:05] the microphone if Todd person
[2:44:06] can please come up here to
[2:44:07] the side my staff will be
[2:44:11] speaking with you Todd Pursell
[2:44:11] you'll have one minute Please
[2:44:12] proceed.
[2:44:12] Thank you.
[2:44:13] I am speaking on behalf of
[2:44:18] myself not any organization or
[2:44:19] my title This year in JANUARY I
[2:44:24] chose to have a staycation in
[2:44:25] pb.
[2:44:29] I was awakened late in
[2:44:30] the evening by cheering and
[2:44:30] screaming.
[2:44:31] I dressed went outside to try
[2:44:36] to figure out where this was
[2:44:36] coming from and it was coming
[2:44:42] from 710 I noticed from across
[2:44:43] the street because the sidewalk
[2:44:43] was inaccessible that there
[2:44:44] were a group of people out
[2:44:48] there with buckets of beer As I
[2:44:49] watched the bartender refill
[2:44:54] that bucket of beer that's not
[2:44:55] allowed out on a public street
[2:44:55] having served for years now our
[2:45:01] community caught It's a big no
[2:45:01] no.
[2:45:02] People are ticketed all
[2:45:05] the time Walking out of seven
[2:45:06] the 7-Eleven and popping their
[2:45:11] beer and getting tickets.
[2:45:12] I politely went over and
[2:45:12] advised the young group that it
[2:45:17] was illegal and they should be
[2:45:18] bringing it inside.
[2:45:18] It didn't work.
[2:45:19] Thank you for that concluding
[2:45:19] comment.
[2:45:25] Next is Ask Jay Scott Shopper I
[2:45:29] believe Sam named Kirkman Thank
[2:45:29] you.
[2:45:35] I'm speaking in favor of
[2:45:35] the denial.
[2:45:36] Thank you times Okay, so I'm a
[2:45:39] local attorney For two decades
[2:45:40] I've represented this business.
[2:45:41] It has its own valuable
[2:45:46] property rights that aren't
[2:45:46] being mentioned.
[2:45:47] What we're hearing today is a
[2:45:47] lot of complaints from other
[2:45:48] property owners seeking to
[2:45:51] advance their own property
[2:45:52] interests by shutting down a
[2:45:52] business that operates lawfully
[2:45:53] under an existing entertainment
[2:45:58] permit and pursuant to San
[2:45:59] Diego ordinance regarding noise
[2:45:59] levels, these appellants do not
[2:46:00] really understand
[2:46:04] the application of noise
[2:46:04] ordinance which is one hour
[2:46:05] weighted averaging.
[2:46:06] I was part of the mediation and
[2:46:10] it was found at that time that
[2:46:11] with sound engineers we hired
[2:46:11] that this noise from this
[2:46:15] location does not exceed those
[2:46:16] levels.
[2:46:17] The entertainment permit
[2:46:17] requires them to operate with
[2:46:18] their doors closed in hours
[2:46:21] When they're doing that during
[2:46:22] live entertainment the outdoor
[2:46:23] stuff is just a modest thing.
[2:46:27] This is about a secret review
[2:46:27] And when you look at those
[2:46:28] standards, these complaints do
[2:46:29] not reach what we're dealing
[2:46:34] with This thing has been
[2:46:35] reviewed by the staff through a
[2:46:35] rigorous vetting process
[2:46:36] carefully considered each
[2:46:39] required element It meets
[2:46:39] the criteria including a
[2:46:51] sentence Patty think had to go
[2:46:52] with something else.
[2:46:57] Hello my name's Harry.
[2:46:58] I'm a single mother at
[2:47:02] the Pacific Beach Community.
[2:47:03] I've known Patty and Scott for
[2:47:04] over ten years and they are a
[2:47:09] wonderful part of the community
[2:47:09] and wonderful people.
[2:47:14] They are actually my daughter's
[2:47:15] 3004 West and Pacific Beach
[2:47:19] soccer team and they offered me
[2:47:20] graciously offered to sponsor
[2:47:21] my daughter's soccer team and
[2:47:21] then her soccer team is going
[2:47:26] to Spain in JULY And so they
[2:47:27] offered to do some fundraisers
[2:47:31] to help us raise money to get
[2:47:32] her team there.
[2:47:33] And um, I love the patio.
[2:47:38] I go there a couple times a
[2:47:39] month and I really MISS
[2:47:39] The patio and I'm excited to
[2:47:40] get it back.
[2:47:44] Hopefully.
[2:47:50] >> Craig Craig Borges Honey.
[2:47:50] Wonderful job for dancing My
[2:47:51] last name.
[2:47:56] Thank you.
[2:47:57] Council members per McCarver.
[2:48:01] I MAY quote Star Trek.
[2:48:02] Spock once said the needs of
[2:48:03] the many outweigh the needs of
[2:48:08] the few.
[2:48:09] And I feel that's what we're
[2:48:09] experiencing here today.
[2:48:10] 25 years I've been in Pacific
[2:48:13] Beach and I've watched I
[2:48:14] believe what you guys have
[2:48:14] blessed for bringing lots of
[2:48:20] people to my beach via the tv
[2:48:20] spots I see they're working
[2:48:25] qualitatively I can say they're
[2:48:25] working.
[2:48:26] And it upsets me to see that
[2:48:27] the local beach businesses
[2:48:28] especially Salmon Beach Club
[2:48:31] cannot scale to meet this
[2:48:32] demand that you guys are
[2:48:37] bringing to our beautiful beach
[2:48:37] .
[2:48:38] They do a wonderful job.
[2:48:39] What they do is give back to
[2:48:39] the community.
[2:48:43] So I'm here to say I believe in
[2:48:44] the recommendation to deny
[2:48:49] the appeal.
[2:48:50] Todd Purcell After that will be
[2:48:56] Sandra Lim Color on color.
[2:49:01] I think I just lost my good
[2:49:01] pronunciation and missed a
[2:49:08] sweet f w e t George Sweet i
[2:49:08] believe.
[2:49:09] And I'm Blair Big Ben Bob
[2:49:10] because you ski If you can all
[2:49:10] please come forward to
[2:49:13] the other reserve seats please
[2:49:14] proceed.
[2:49:14] >> Good afternoon.
[2:49:15] Thank you for being here.
[2:49:18] My name is Todd Pearsall.
[2:49:19] I moved to our wonderful city
[2:49:20] in 1988 from Wisconsin.
[2:49:25] I came here to play rugby with
[2:49:26] on back and then I went to
[2:49:26] California Western School of
[2:49:27] Law.
[2:49:30] I'm a 64 year old attorney.
[2:49:31] I do like going around having a
[2:49:36] refreshment in the sun and I
[2:49:36] hope you will grant this a st
[2:49:37] re.
[2:49:38] But let me tell you how good
[2:49:42] Scott is.
[2:49:43] 32 years ago I had a small
[2:49:43] packer bar.
[2:49:47] We had a Toys for Tots drive
[2:49:48] and after we delivered our toys
[2:49:49] to the fire department in p b I
[2:49:53] stopped by on a little sunny
[2:49:59] tour of pb the 710 Club which
[2:49:59] was blind melons and told him
[2:50:00] what I did and he said We'd
[2:50:01] like to be part of it.
[2:50:04] For the last 31 years blind
[2:50:09] melons and or the 710 Club as
[2:50:10] it's called has been part of
[2:50:11] this Toys for Tots Drive that I
[2:50:15] have ran in in the city in pb
[2:50:16] at 12 bars.
[2:50:17] We need a 40 foot truck.
[2:50:21] The boys get eight grand a year
[2:50:22] Santa a great things come
[2:50:26] forward First of all PRESIDENT
[2:50:26] LaCava and council members
[2:50:27] thank you for what you do.
[2:50:31] I'm amazed by this whole
[2:50:32] process.
[2:50:32] Thank you.
[2:50:33] I really want to say I don't
[2:50:37] think you guys get paid enough
[2:50:38] so thank you.
[2:50:39] However this turns out, I'm
[2:50:39] amazed by this process.
[2:50:44] I wanted to introduce myself.
[2:50:44] My name is Sandy.
[2:50:45] One cooler.
[2:50:46] I was the founder of Warrior
[2:50:49] Foundation Freedom Station
[2:50:50] which is right here in
[2:50:50] COUNCILMAN Whitman's area.
[2:50:55] I have resigned last year to
[2:50:56] move on to a more focused
[2:50:57] nonprofit called Freedom Ranch
[2:51:02] Veterans Foundation.
[2:51:02] I know we're not here to talk
[2:51:03] about nonprofits.
[2:51:03] I want to tell you about a
[2:51:07] gentleman who is a businessman
[2:51:08] and he is a pillar of our
[2:51:09] community.
[2:51:09] His name is Scott Slager.
[2:51:14] Scott's from Chicago.
[2:51:15] I'm from Chicago.
[2:51:15] We're both various brands yada
[2:51:16] yada.
[2:51:16] Okay.
[2:51:19] I wanted to share with you that
[2:51:19] I met him in 2015.
[2:51:20] He called me up, did not know
[2:51:24] who I was and said I want to
[2:51:25] help the military in San Diego.
[2:51:26] >> I want to help the military
[2:51:31] in Camp Pendleton.
[2:51:31] >> That was quick.
[2:51:32] Thank you for your comments.
[2:51:37] Allow our warriors George
[2:51:38] Siegel to thank you for that
[2:51:38] concluding comment.
[2:51:41] George Sweet They fit in an
[2:51:41] outdoor area.
[2:51:47] Thank you.
[2:51:48] After George we will be able to
[2:51:49] be Kevin and Bob because you
[2:51:53] ski If you can please come
[2:51:54] forward to the front row to be
[2:52:23] ready if you damage association
[2:52:23] My job with the food and
[2:52:24] beverages and training.
[2:52:28] I've known Scott for about 15
[2:52:29] years.
[2:52:33] He asked me to come down
[2:52:34] introduce people every six
[2:52:40] months for security.
[2:52:40] We send people here to monitor
[2:52:45] the activities of the employees
[2:52:46] to make sure everybody is doing
[2:52:46] the job that they're supposed
[2:52:47] to do.
[2:52:51] The third item on the training
[2:52:52] list is Windows.
[2:52:58] When the ban is placed
[2:52:58] the windows are to be closed
[2:53:03] When there is no music that
[2:53:03] windows can be open.
[2:53:12] Scott is very strict with those
[2:53:12] .
[2:53:13] I think the people that are
[2:53:19] complaining that you guys don't
[2:53:20] know what they're talking about
[2:53:26] Thank you for that concluding
[2:53:26] comment.
[2:53:27] Blair Beekman.
[2:53:28] After Blair McManus started
[2:53:36] came.
[2:53:37] All right.
[2:53:37] Thank you Blair Beekman.
[2:53:38] I'm working neutral on this
[2:53:42] item.
[2:53:43] With the sport field issues in
[2:53:48] the Gilmore area a few months
[2:53:49] ago now I was hoping City
[2:53:49] Council could take a more
[2:53:54] active role in how
[2:53:55] the corporate entity and
[2:53:55] the community could work
[2:53:56] together on the item.
[2:54:01] I hope they can do that for
[2:54:01] this item.
[2:54:06] I want to try to be friendly to
[2:54:06] all sides And is it possible
[2:54:07] that if this project was to go
[2:54:12] through that there could be new
[2:54:12] adjustments, acoustic
[2:54:13] adjustments to really make sure
[2:54:18] and overall efforts to
[2:54:18] coordinate with the owners of
[2:54:19] the bar can be respectful to
[2:54:20] the community and there can be
[2:54:24] dialog continual dialog and you
[2:54:25] know what's working well and
[2:54:25] what can be improved changed
[2:54:30] upon.
[2:54:31] >> Can this turn into an active
[2:54:31] conversation of working towards
[2:54:32] things for everyone?
[2:54:35] Thank you.
[2:54:36] >> Thank you Bob Because this
[2:54:42] came item two or what's been
[2:54:43] called yet.
[2:54:48] I'll defer my comments to a
[2:54:48] while.
[2:54:48] Thank you.
[2:54:49] Thank you.
[2:54:51] I've started the five minute
[2:54:52] timer going to those
[2:54:52] participating remotely.
[2:54:53] We have four people in
[2:54:57] the queue as one minute each
[2:54:57] starting with the original
[2:54:58] after the original as Chris dug
[2:54:59] into the original.
[2:54:59] >> Please.
[2:54:59] I'm you.
[2:55:02] Oh ironic is it that this woman
[2:55:03] you know sharing the words
[2:55:09] lyrics of a song that is being
[2:55:10] played at that place is you
[2:55:10] know detrimental to children
[2:55:16] that you only hear about it in
[2:55:16] the chambers but you don't seem
[2:55:17] to be caring that I think it
[2:55:20] enough for are concerned about
[2:55:21] that It's interesting to see
[2:55:21] what you guys do with your
[2:55:26] exemptions and you know when
[2:55:27] some are used at once when
[2:55:28] you're planning that you want
[2:55:31] to do all this environmental
[2:55:32] stuff It's all of these three
[2:55:33] series of things that you guys
[2:55:33] brought forward during covid
[2:55:38] the regulations that policy
[2:55:38] regarding that the changed on a
[2:55:43] revolving door basis And so
[2:55:44] like when they were first
[2:55:44] implemented they had to be a
[2:55:45] certain way had to have certain
[2:55:48] awning and then all the so that
[2:55:49] was like all that changed And
[2:55:49] so the people had to go into
[2:55:50] pay to take that away.
[2:55:54] So it's just a bunch of
[2:55:55] nonsense that you guys do with
[2:55:56] this You kind to make people
[2:55:57] jump through hoops but I think
[2:55:57] you need to be listening to
[2:56:01] the people who have lived
[2:56:01] experience in that community of
[2:56:02] what they're experiencing right
[2:56:02] now.
[2:56:05] But obviously for the pass
[2:56:06] Thank you.
[2:56:07] Next is Chris Duggan if you can
[2:56:07] please on mute after that is
[2:56:12] done stop.
[2:56:13] Good afternoon.
[2:56:13] Chris Dugan representing
[2:56:14] California Restaurant
[2:56:17] Association To you come before
[2:56:18] you today to express your
[2:56:18] cynical support for
[2:56:19] the proposed greenery and to
[2:56:23] respectfully request
[2:56:24] the Council support staff
[2:56:25] recommendation ignited
[2:56:25] the appeal before you.
[2:56:26] First, it's hard to believe
[2:56:29] that nearly six years have
[2:56:30] passed since schools,
[2:56:30] businesses and governments
[2:56:31] closed their doors due to
[2:56:34] the global pandemic.
[2:56:35] However, immediately with
[2:56:36] the help of the City council we
[2:56:36] came together to figure out how
[2:56:41] we could stay open and that we
[2:56:41] spaces as places.
[2:56:42] So thank you and what
[2:56:42] the pandemic MAY be in
[2:56:43] the rearview.
[2:56:47] The road to restaurant recovery
[2:56:48] continues in the importance of
[2:56:48] expanded outdoor dining remains
[2:56:53] critical especially for a
[2:56:53] project like 17 Beach Club.
[2:56:54] So therefore I'm glad to see in
[2:56:59] San Diego we respectfully
[2:56:59] request the Council deny
[2:57:00] the appeal before you and allow
[2:57:04] this project to continue.
[2:57:05] Thank you.
[2:57:05] Thank you.
[2:57:06] Next is John Stump if you can
[2:57:10] believe him you.
[2:57:11] >> Hello, John Stump.
[2:57:16] I wanted to observe this
[2:57:21] process in this process to novo
[2:57:22] because I'm considering filing
[2:57:27] an appeal myself on
[2:57:28] the environmental determination
[2:57:28] about using the parking lot in
[2:57:34] Los Pesquisas Reserve as a
[2:57:39] heliport.
[2:57:40] This is the staff has made it
[2:57:45] environmental determination
[2:57:46] that this project is exempt
[2:57:50] from cta under exemption 32.
[2:57:51] It's not whether you grant
[2:57:56] the appeal or not.
[2:58:03] It's not over because after
[2:58:03] this they still have to get
[2:58:04] permits and after this
[2:58:08] the community might decide to
[2:58:09] file an environmental suit.
[2:58:14] This has taken six months to
[2:58:14] get here.
[2:58:15] >> Think about that when you
[2:58:15] talk about you For that
[2:58:20] concluding comment.
[2:58:21] >> Next is 8700.
[2:58:21] If you complete them you after
[2:58:25] that will be Shiela 8700.
[2:58:28] Sorry I had to postpone 8700
[2:58:29] You you know.
[2:58:35] Thank you, Jason.
[2:58:36] You had a 53 letter.
[2:58:37] I agree with you.
[2:58:41] I beautiful words Yet I do want
[2:58:46] to say this from my perspective
[2:58:47] The exemption from sequel based
[2:58:51] on the staff finding stand it
[2:58:52] stands And I listened to you
[2:58:56] MR. Stump and while on and on
[2:58:57] it goes I want to speak out to
[2:59:03] demand that owns the bar
[2:59:04] because I want to tell him that
[2:59:08] I love him and I love the condo
[2:59:08] owners.
[2:59:09] I love both of you and this is
[2:59:13] a family And why the dialog
[2:59:14] didn't happen earlier and you
[2:59:15] somehow found a way to work
[2:59:15] this out.
[2:59:19] I do not know.
[2:59:20] I hope the bar did honor
[2:59:21] the mediation.
[2:59:21] It sounds like there was an
[2:59:25] attempt to do that and maybe it
[2:59:26] kind of got bumpy and they
[2:59:26] failed a little bit.
[2:59:30] I don't know.
[2:59:31] But the bar owner I want to
[2:59:32] tell you how sorry I am for
[2:59:36] your struggles during the covid
[2:59:37] crisis, concluded Shiela, if
[2:59:42] you can please and you.
[2:59:42] >> Hi.
[2:59:43] Good evening.
[2:59:43] My name is Shiela Hills and I'm
[2:59:44] the PRESIDENT At Discover
[2:59:48] Pacific Beach in favor of
[2:59:49] the staff's recommendation to
[2:59:49] deny the appeal.
[2:59:52] Discover pd represents
[2:59:52] the collective interests of
[2:59:53] the business community in our
[2:59:54] district.
[2:59:54] Our board is made up of local
[2:59:57] business owners who care deeply
[2:59:58] about the future of Pacific
[2:59:59] Beach and the success of
[2:59:59] the businesses that help make
[3:00:03] this neighborhood vibrant.
[3:00:04] Our board supports outdoor
[3:00:08] dining including 710 Beach Club
[3:00:09] Street three because it helps
[3:00:09] create the active welcoming
[3:00:14] environment that residents and
[3:00:14] visitors expect in a coastal
[3:00:15] destination like.
[3:00:18] Speaking personally I am and pb
[3:00:19] most evenings along with
[3:00:20] members of my staff and over
[3:00:20] the past four years we have
[3:00:21] never observed anything out of
[3:00:25] control or even remotely too
[3:00:25] loud associated with this
[3:00:26] location.
[3:00:26] I have served in community
[3:00:29] court for over a year now and
[3:00:30] I've never heard from anyone
[3:00:31] with a citation for open
[3:00:34] container from a 710 beach
[3:00:34] club.
[3:00:35] But do see this from other
[3:00:35] businesses.
[3:00:39] Parking has also been addressed
[3:00:40] .
[3:00:40] Additional parking has been
[3:00:41] added and 710 Beach Club has
[3:00:42] even worked to reserve parking
[3:00:47] for customers to move vehicles.
[3:00:47] History has concluded.
[3:00:48] I will also note that the fact
[3:00:49] that the timer has also
[3:00:51] concluded there eight speakers
[3:00:52] in the queue when that timer
[3:00:53] went off no additional speakers
[3:00:53] will be taken.
[3:00:57] Starting with Sonny or next
[3:00:58] because Sonny after that is go
[3:01:02] through hellos.
[3:01:03] >> Suddenly here executive
[3:01:04] director of Discover Pacific
[3:01:07] Beach where the Business
[3:01:07] Improvement District
[3:01:08] representing businesses in pb
[3:01:09] and our mission is to support
[3:01:13] our business community by
[3:01:13] helping create a vibrant
[3:01:14] welcoming environment for
[3:01:18] residents and visitors.
[3:01:18] Outdoor dining areas are an
[3:01:19] important part of that vision
[3:01:20] and they allow our small
[3:01:23] businesses to activate our
[3:01:24] public spaces and create
[3:01:25] the kind of lively experience
[3:01:30] that makes Pacific Beach
[3:01:30] special.
[3:01:31] Discover pd supports the Street
[3:01:34] strategy at 710 Beach Club and
[3:01:34] the broader concept of outdoor
[3:01:35] dining in our district.
[3:01:35] I will say it has been
[3:01:39] challenging for many of our
[3:01:40] businesses to go through this
[3:01:40] process and we appreciate them
[3:01:44] In turn for fighting the fight
[3:01:45] to get that street a report
[3:01:49] that in my experience as well
[3:01:50] frequently businesses here in
[3:01:53] Pacific Beach I never have been
[3:01:54] to 710 and seen it as loud as
[3:01:55] it has been described today.
[3:01:59] So that was definitely news to
[3:01:59] me.
[3:01:59] >> Thank you.
[3:02:04] Next is Guthrie Leonard, if you
[3:02:05] can please on mute.
[3:02:05] Hi.
[3:02:06] Can you hear me?
[3:02:06] Yes.
[3:02:06] Please proceed.
[3:02:09] Hi.
[3:02:10] I'm really here to speak on
[3:02:11] item 2a1 but I just wanted to
[3:02:12] come in here and say I totally
[3:02:15] understand.
[3:02:15] I hate noise interruptions.
[3:02:16] That's been a really big
[3:02:17] problem in places I've lived in
[3:02:20] the past But I really do think
[3:02:21] this is a textbook example of
[3:02:25] Scott being an antiquated law.
[3:02:26] It should not take $100,000 and
[3:02:31] a year to put up fences around
[3:02:32] some tables and a couple
[3:02:32] parking spots.
[3:02:36] It sounds like most of
[3:02:37] the people complaining about
[3:02:37] this project really just have a
[3:02:42] problem with the bar and not
[3:02:42] the street or in general.
[3:02:43] And so I really don't think
[3:02:46] there's any grounds to allow
[3:02:47] this appeal.
[3:02:47] >> Please tonight.
[3:02:48] Thank you.
[3:02:52] Next zoom if you complete a
[3:02:53] zoom user please on mute after
[3:02:54] that is live concert please
[3:02:57] proceed.
[3:02:58] Hi, this is Hector.
[3:02:58] I'm not commenting.
[3:03:01] I'm like a 72 year old guy with
[3:03:01] a big beach cruiser.
[3:03:06] I would consider myself an
[3:03:07] endangered species because when
[3:03:08] I go down there at night
[3:03:11] cruising on the boardwalk and
[3:03:12] there's drunk people it's kind
[3:03:16] of a little dangerous sometimes
[3:03:16] .
[3:03:17] But I would say the guys should
[3:03:18] put this area up on the roof
[3:03:21] and restore the parking spaces
[3:03:21] and the sidewalk is a normal
[3:03:26] sidewalk for the general
[3:03:26] public.
[3:03:32] Thank you, Leif.
[3:03:33] Oh, I have if you can please
[3:03:37] unmute.
[3:03:38] >> Hello, my name is Lofgren.
[3:03:39] I'm a resident of North Park
[3:03:44] and I got to frequently.
[3:03:45] All place I've been I've been
[3:03:45] in contact.
[3:03:46] It's a great venue.
[3:03:47] I'm speaking in support of
[3:03:47] the Appeal Keystone.
[3:03:51] Please let the owner have
[3:03:52] freedom under section.
[3:03:53] It's quite interesting to see a
[3:03:56] common pattern that we see all
[3:03:57] over the country and I've even
[3:03:57] seen in another in other
[3:03:58] countries where the residents
[3:04:02] are opposed to something that
[3:04:02] potentially created a noise
[3:04:03] therefore robbing the youth and
[3:04:04] people who want to go out of
[3:04:09] something like that be
[3:04:10] the lively neighborhood noise
[3:04:10] has to be respected.
[3:04:12] One of the things it's kind of
[3:04:12] funny that we're using
[3:04:12] squatters.
[3:04:13] For me this is a textbook
[3:04:16] example of Sitkowski was
[3:04:16] everybody wants to restore a
[3:04:17] parking lots therefore
[3:04:20] increasing the demand for cars
[3:04:21] which is a clear a clear
[3:04:22] environmental pollutant.
[3:04:26] So what do you think What to
[3:04:26] reduce noise is a clear
[3:04:27] violation of that We've seen
[3:04:27] that in in Berkeley.
[3:04:31] So what I want to say is yes
[3:04:32] please staff and follow
[3:04:33] the staff recommendation and
[3:04:36] appeal a rejected appeal.
[3:04:36] >> Thank you.
[3:04:37] Next is Tanya.
[3:04:40] If you can please unmute after
[3:04:44] that is 1335 Tanya.
[3:04:44] Hello.
[3:04:45] I'd like to specifically
[3:04:49] address the concern that
[3:04:50] the 710 Beach Club is impacting
[3:04:50] local parking.
[3:04:53] To suggest that five spaces
[3:04:54] significantly alters parking
[3:04:57] availability and p is
[3:04:58] respectfully a
[3:04:59] mischaracterization of the data
[3:05:02] when you consider the huge
[3:05:03] amount of visitors P.B.
[3:05:04] Welcomes daily five spots
[3:05:07] represents a nominal fraction
[3:05:08] of the total capacity between
[3:05:08] the ample parking within a
[3:05:09] short walk and the high volume
[3:05:13] of ride share usage in this
[3:05:14] corridor.
[3:05:14] These spaces are far more
[3:05:15] valuable to the city as a
[3:05:18] source of tax revenue and local
[3:05:18] business growth than as asphalt
[3:05:19] for five cars.
[3:05:22] That's all I have.
[3:05:23] Thank you.
[3:05:23] Thank you.
[3:05:25] Next is 1335 if you can please
[3:05:31] unmute star six.
[3:05:32] After that will be Denise
[3:05:36] Bingham 1335 Academy for you.
[3:05:38] You do have to press star six
[3:05:43] in order to unmute we will have
[3:05:44] to move on to our next speaker
[3:05:48] If you can unmute going to
[3:05:48] Denise.
[3:05:52] After that our final speaker is
[3:05:53] Ted Dennis.
[3:05:54] >> Hello, my name is Denise Van
[3:05:57] and I have been a patron of 710
[3:05:58] Beach Club for over 15 years
[3:06:02] and I have seen what MR. Slager
[3:06:03] has done from the upgrades that
[3:06:07] he has made through
[3:06:08] the mediation to mitigate
[3:06:12] the sound noise that is coming
[3:06:13] from it as well as being at
[3:06:13] the bar when live music happens
[3:06:17] and all of the doors are shut
[3:06:22] per the mediation requirements
[3:06:22] .
[3:06:23] I also believe that having
[3:06:27] the street does give a more
[3:06:28] vibrant and lively situation
[3:06:32] for Pacific Beach which
[3:06:32] continues to allow for more
[3:06:36] revenue and tax taxing that can
[3:06:37] help the city rebuild whatever
[3:06:38] they need to do.
[3:06:41] So I am in support of
[3:06:46] the denial of the appeal.
[3:06:46] >> Thank you.
[3:06:47] Thank you.
[3:06:47] And our final speaker on Zoom
[3:06:51] is Ted Winkler, if you can
[3:06:52] please on mute.
[3:06:52] >> Good afternoon.
[3:06:53] Thanks for your time.
[3:06:56] Ford.
[3:06:57] I'd like to recommend a nice
[3:06:57] in.
[3:07:00] I believe that Scott and his
[3:07:01] business have covered
[3:07:05] everything that the simple
[3:07:05] application has stated and
[3:07:09] there should be no appeal with
[3:07:10] that.
[3:07:10] I do know that the people
[3:07:11] across the street.
[3:07:13] How about an issue with Scott
[3:07:14] for over 30 years?
[3:07:18] Scott tried to hypothetically
[3:07:18] appease every possible way for
[3:07:19] them that continue to be
[3:07:23] abandoned in existence.
[3:07:24] As you can see that long list
[3:07:28] of calls dated over 30 years
[3:07:29] that was presented I assume
[3:07:29] most of the coming from
[3:07:32] the same exact people as well
[3:07:33] in the presentation that was
[3:07:33] presented to the calendar.
[3:07:37] If you look at that closely,
[3:07:37] every one of those states had
[3:07:38] karaoke or trivia.
[3:07:42] Couldn't imagine That being
[3:07:43] said, the big problem for
[3:07:45] the neighborhood seven towns
[3:07:46] going to employ 40 people at a
[3:07:49] time during the time of
[3:07:50] the pandemic they almost closed
[3:07:54] down and I believe clinging on
[3:07:55] to this time a lot of your time
[3:07:56] has concluded.
[3:07:59] >> If you raise your hand
[3:08:00] the five minute timer had also
[3:08:01] concluded so no additional
[3:08:01] speakers will be taken through
[3:08:04] the virtual queue.
[3:08:05] We did had 14 speakers 14
[3:08:05] people registered there.
[3:08:10] Request to serve.
[3:08:10] Sorry let me say this a little
[3:08:11] bit.
[3:08:12] We had 14 people donating their
[3:08:14] time to Scott Sliwa that did
[3:08:14] not wish to speak.
[3:08:15] Noting that for the record and
[3:08:18] we have Rich Richards who was
[3:08:19] in that pile in error.
[3:08:20] So if Rich Richards can still
[3:08:23] please come up.
[3:08:24] Also note while you make your
[3:08:24] way up that we did receive
[3:08:25] three comments in favor and
[3:08:26] nine comments in opposition.
[3:08:29] We are a comment forum which
[3:08:29] have been distributed to
[3:08:30] the Council.
[3:08:30] Please proceed.
[3:08:30] Very good.
[3:08:33] Thank you to the Council for
[3:08:34] allowing me time to speak.
[3:08:35] I've been a homeowner and a
[3:08:38] resident of Pacific Beach since
[3:08:38] 1990.
[3:08:38] 36 years.
[3:08:41] I just want to give my support
[3:08:42] to 710.
[3:08:42] It is an important integral
[3:08:43] part of the Pacific Beach
[3:08:43] community.
[3:08:46] It's a restaurant social
[3:08:47] meeting spot sports venue And
[3:08:51] while the only night spots to
[3:08:51] provide live music which is now
[3:08:52] a dying art in San Diego.
[3:08:56] When I first moved there there
[3:08:56] was probably seven venues that
[3:09:01] had live music.
[3:09:02] It's got two places now or one.
[3:09:03] On a personal note, I was in
[3:09:05] Thailand when the war when I
[3:09:06] got hit by the tsunami.
[3:09:07] I was on one of the smallest
[3:09:07] islands.
[3:09:10] When I did come back Scott Flag
[3:09:11] without hesitation came up to
[3:09:14] me and asked how he could help
[3:09:14] .
[3:09:15] He decided to do a fundraiser
[3:09:16] and he donated his
[3:09:20] establishment as well as his
[3:09:20] staff and provided live music
[3:09:21] for that event.
[3:09:24] It was quite successful.
[3:09:25] Now he helps out with the beach
[3:09:26] cleanup and working with
[3:09:29] wounded veterans.
[3:09:29] Pb will always be a destination
[3:09:30] spot for San Diego residents
[3:09:34] for the U.S. And the world.
[3:09:35] >> It's good to have a multi
[3:09:35] venue event like this.
[3:09:36] Thank you for that concluding
[3:09:36] comment.
[3:09:39] That does conclude the public
[3:09:39] comment on this item.
[3:09:40] Council PRESIDENT Thank you.
[3:09:40] Thank you.
[3:09:44] Thank you City Clerk.
[3:09:44] Our apologies that we somehow
[3:09:48] missed your slip so I want to
[3:09:49] give you a chance.
[3:09:49] One of the things I like to do
[3:09:53] on these big items is give our
[3:09:53] city clerk a round of applause
[3:09:54] for managing all the speakers
[3:10:00] and the rollouts and and that
[3:10:05] goes to her team as well.
[3:10:06] So thank you for that.
[3:10:06] So I want to thank the staff,
[3:10:10] the appellant and the applicant
[3:10:10] .
[3:10:11] This is now in District one so
[3:10:14] I'll take the lead on this.
[3:10:15] Thank you to those who showed
[3:10:16] up in chambers and spoke or
[3:10:20] showed your support of things
[3:10:20] you liked in your position
[3:10:24] the things you didn't like and
[3:10:25] as well as those who
[3:10:29] participated virtually We heard
[3:10:30] a lot of things this afternoon
[3:10:30] so I wanted to make sure that
[3:10:33] we all understand what we're
[3:10:34] here to talk about and that is
[3:10:38] the action on the appeal of
[3:10:39] the environmental
[3:10:39] determination.
[3:10:43] It is not a consideration of
[3:10:44] the St3 application.
[3:10:44] It is not a conversation about
[3:10:48] the location of the off street
[3:10:49] parking replacement or
[3:10:52] the parking spots at the three
[3:10:52] we would take up.
[3:10:53] It is not about whether
[3:10:57] the property is operating in
[3:10:57] compliance with the mediation
[3:10:58] as some spoke to.
[3:11:02] It's not about the operation of
[3:11:02] the 710 Club itself.
[3:11:03] Nor is it about the character
[3:11:06] or the personalities of those
[3:11:07] involved.
[3:11:08] So a couple of questions before
[3:11:12] I jump in.
[3:11:12] This one's for staff and I
[3:11:13] think you've been given a heads
[3:11:17] up to start the mine and make
[3:11:18] sure for myself and for my
[3:11:21] colleagues here on Council
[3:11:21] the applicant did submit a
[3:11:22] pretty lengthy document
[3:11:26] detailing their appeal.
[3:11:27] The typically receives from
[3:11:28] staff an explanation or
[3:11:31] rebuttal to each issue raised
[3:11:32] by the appellant.
[3:11:32] And yet the staff report and
[3:11:33] the slide deck appear to be
[3:11:35] silent.
[3:11:40] How should we take that?
[3:11:41] >> So what what the staff
[3:11:45] report was written on was
[3:11:46] the appeal that was filed which
[3:11:49] checked all of the boxes on
[3:11:50] the appeal form but provided no
[3:11:51] additional information.
[3:11:51] The balance of the information
[3:11:54] was provided very close to
[3:11:55] the hearing and staff did not
[3:11:56] receive it in time to respond
[3:11:59] in kind.
[3:11:59] Okay.
[3:12:00] I say that for a couple of
[3:12:04] reasons One to make sure it
[3:12:04] wasn't a reflection of
[3:12:05] the material You simply did not
[3:12:06] occur to it.
[3:12:08] But also as a message to
[3:12:09] anybody else who chooses to
[3:12:10] appeal that you need to submit
[3:12:14] your documentation when you
[3:12:14] file the appeal or to make sure
[3:12:15] that staff gets it and plenty
[3:12:19] of time for you to respond to.
[3:12:19] So thank you for clarifying
[3:12:23] that And I can I can understand
[3:12:24] that because this is a notice
[3:12:24] hearing.
[3:12:25] You have a time limit and you
[3:12:28] have to do your work.
[3:12:28] So as to the environmental
[3:12:33] determination in addition to
[3:12:33] the testimony today, I did
[3:12:34] review the material that was
[3:12:37] attached to the docket as well
[3:12:38] as the comments that were
[3:12:39] submitted online that the city
[3:12:42] clerk relied on referred to
[3:12:46] staff relies on categorical
[3:12:47] exemptions related to
[3:12:48] the infill development.
[3:12:48] So that's where
[3:12:51] the conversation needs to focus
[3:12:51] on.
[3:12:52] As was mentioned, Section d of
[3:12:53] the categorical exemptions
[3:12:57] includes approval.
[3:12:57] The project would not result in
[3:12:58] any significant effects
[3:12:59] relating to traffic noise, air
[3:13:02] quality or water quality.
[3:13:03] And where of course we're not
[3:13:03] talking about the approval of
[3:13:06] the project but the evidence to
[3:13:07] support whether we have enough
[3:13:07] information in
[3:13:11] the environmental determination
[3:13:12] excuse me staff included
[3:13:12] information that compliance
[3:13:16] with San Diego Mississippi Code
[3:13:17] 59.50401 would ensure noise
[3:13:21] impacts would be less than
[3:13:22] significant And yet the city's
[3:13:22] own track record is at this
[3:13:25] property has not necessarily
[3:13:26] complied despite numerous
[3:13:30] enforcement efforts by blue of
[3:13:31] the appellant including
[3:13:31] information about dozens of
[3:13:35] noise complaints Complaints
[3:13:38] does not mean violation but it
[3:13:44] does show a pattern.
[3:13:45] So staff also relies on secret
[3:13:47] guidelines Section 15 300 point
[3:13:48] to be saying the projects
[3:13:49] inspected have no significant
[3:13:53] cumulative packet but that
[3:13:54] appears to treat the Street
[3:13:55] three in my opinion as a
[3:13:57] standalone project separate and
[3:13:58] distinct from the restaurant.
[3:13:58] The theory is an expansion of
[3:14:02] the restaurant bar and the two
[3:14:03] cannot be separated as
[3:14:07] suggested in the environmental
[3:14:07] determination.
[3:14:08] We must examine the cumulative
[3:14:09] impact of at least the street
[3:14:12] around the restaurant with
[3:14:12] regards to especially noise.
[3:14:13] I recognize that the only
[3:14:16] action before us is
[3:14:17] the environmental
[3:14:17] determination.
[3:14:18] However, the secret exemption
[3:14:21] relies on this council to find
[3:14:22] the project would not have
[3:14:23] significant impacts.
[3:14:26] There is significant impact
[3:14:26] evidence in the record and
[3:14:31] whether it's the owner or
[3:14:31] the customers of the operations
[3:14:32] about compliance with
[3:14:35] the municipal code.
[3:14:36] This evidence to me constitutes
[3:14:40] unusual circumstances.
[3:14:40] One of the criteria in
[3:14:45] considering the appeal as many
[3:14:46] people smoke bars and
[3:14:46] restaurants in the area open
[3:14:47] light, serve alcohol and play
[3:14:50] music with fewer complaints.
[3:14:51] And there is evidence that an
[3:14:52] outdoor cherry tree can
[3:14:52] exacerbate what is already
[3:14:55] happening with the adjoining
[3:14:56] restaurant and bar.
[3:14:56] Whether that's the operation or
[3:15:00] the customer's nightlife is a
[3:15:01] part of Pacific Beach, let's
[3:15:01] all recognize that.
[3:15:05] But the frequency of violations
[3:15:06] over a consistent period of
[3:15:06] time demonstrates the history
[3:15:09] that constitutes of unusual
[3:15:09] circumstances.
[3:15:10] The termination also used
[3:15:14] the small project exemption and
[3:15:15] ignore the cumulative effects
[3:15:16] of the street which combined
[3:15:19] with the restaurant bar which
[3:15:19] really kind of surprised me.
[3:15:20] This wasn't just a small
[3:15:24] project it's a definitive
[3:15:25] expansion of an existing one.
[3:15:29] Secret guideline Status
[3:15:29] Significant effect is a
[3:15:30] substantial potentially
[3:15:31] substantial and first change in
[3:15:34] any of the physical conditions
[3:15:34] within the area affected by
[3:15:35] the project including what
[3:15:38] ambient noise?
[3:15:39] While I am loath to require
[3:15:40] environmental analysis for
[3:15:43] converting converting a tobacco
[3:15:44] to a string theory, there is
[3:15:44] substantial evidence in
[3:15:45] the record that several
[3:15:48] exemptions listed in
[3:15:49] the determination in my opinion
[3:15:49] do not apply.
[3:15:53] I cannot make the findings in
[3:15:54] support of the environmental
[3:15:54] determination.
[3:15:55] So with that I will move to
[3:15:58] grant the appeal and set aside
[3:15:58] the environmental determination
[3:16:02] in accordance with section 112.
[3:16:03] 0520f and leave it to staff as
[3:16:06] to the appropriate level of
[3:16:07] sequence analysis to address
[3:16:08] the issues raised in this
[3:16:11] afternoon's hearing.
[3:16:12] And as a reminder to everyone
[3:16:13] here this is not a decision on
[3:16:16] the permit application and just
[3:16:17] a narrow one on
[3:16:17] the environmental
[3:16:18] determination.
[3:16:21] So I have made a motion and
[3:16:22] we'll go next to Councilmember
[3:16:23] Campbell who used to have
[3:16:26] Pacific Beach and her district.
[3:16:27] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[3:16:33] I'm happy to second your motion
[3:16:33] .
[3:16:34] >> Okay.
[3:16:38] So a motion by myself to grant
[3:16:39] the appeal and set aside
[3:16:39] the environmental terminations
[3:16:40] cited by Councilmember
[3:16:40] Campbell.
[3:16:44] I don't see anybody else on
[3:16:44] the lights.
[3:16:45] Councilmember Bong Wolpert.
[3:16:45] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[3:16:48] And thank you to everyone for
[3:16:48] coming in.
[3:16:49] So this is very loud today.
[3:16:52] I know this is your council
[3:16:53] district and so of course you
[3:16:54] have expertise And I just had a
[3:16:57] question about the last time
[3:16:58] you made this was what we're
[3:17:00] deciding today is only
[3:17:01] the second appeal not about
[3:17:05] the permit itself.
[3:17:06] That is correct.
[3:17:10] So if we were to deny
[3:17:11] the appeal today, would there
[3:17:11] still be a permitting process
[3:17:12] the business owner would have
[3:17:15] to go through to continue
[3:17:16] operating?
[3:17:16] Sorry, don't answer.
[3:17:16] Okay.
[3:17:20] I believe the project plus
[3:17:21] the new determination would
[3:17:21] come forward to city council
[3:17:23] City council would take
[3:17:28] jurisdiction.
[3:17:29] So we would hear this again.
[3:17:33] You would hear the project plus
[3:17:34] the new determination.
[3:17:35] What's the new determination?
[3:17:36] I mean I'm so I'm sorry the new
[3:17:38] seek with determination.
[3:17:39] >> MAY I clarify?
[3:17:42] You mean if the council were to
[3:17:43] deny the appeal today your
[3:17:43] original question?
[3:17:43] Okay.
[3:17:47] So the project
[3:17:48] the environmental determination
[3:17:52] would be final but the project
[3:17:53] would still be would go before
[3:17:56] the hearing officer for a
[3:17:57] process three decision that
[3:17:58] could be appealable to
[3:17:58] the Planning Commission if
[3:18:01] appealed and the city's final
[3:18:02] determination could also be
[3:18:06] appealable to the coastal
[3:18:06] Commission because this is in
[3:18:07] the Coastal Commission's
[3:18:08] appealable jurisdiction.
[3:18:13] Okay.
[3:18:14] So then I know the Coastal
[3:18:18] Commission had required any st3
[3:18:19] which took away parking spaces
[3:18:19] to have an offset of parking
[3:18:20] spaces.
[3:18:24] So are there new parking spaces
[3:18:24] being provided here?
[3:18:25] >> Yes.
[3:18:28] Applicant has located five off
[3:18:29] street parking spaces and an
[3:18:33] adjacent paid parking lot in
[3:18:34] the next block 8845 Garnet, i
[3:18:37] believe is the address.
[3:18:42] I can't I don't recall whether
[3:18:43] the Coastal Commission would
[3:18:44] allow for paid parking as an
[3:18:44] offset or these were paid
[3:18:47] parking But anyway weren't
[3:18:48] they?
[3:18:48] I'm sorry weren't these
[3:18:49] the street parking They were
[3:18:52] parking meters so I assume they
[3:18:52] were paid parking anyway you
[3:18:56] know I mean.
[3:18:57] Okay.
[3:18:57] Yeah I remember the Coastal
[3:19:01] Commission coming down on us
[3:19:01] for this issue.
[3:19:02] I just they come down on us a
[3:19:06] lot so I don't recall MR. MR.
[3:19:07] Slagle able to maybe able to
[3:19:08] speak to this further I believe
[3:19:11] he's paid for those spaces so
[3:19:11] they are paid People can park
[3:19:12] in them.
[3:19:12] Understood.
[3:19:15] Okay Thank you.
[3:19:16] I guess my my overall question
[3:19:17] I understand the very narrow
[3:19:20] grounds on which we have to
[3:19:25] evaluate a secure appeal at
[3:19:26] the same time, I do know that
[3:19:26] there's a lot of community
[3:19:30] concern about the conduct in
[3:19:31] the noise and everything going
[3:19:31] on.
[3:19:34] So can that be even if that
[3:19:35] cannot be addressed through a
[3:19:36] sequel appeal, could that be
[3:19:36] addressed through the permit
[3:19:39] process by which the community
[3:19:40] could be heard and the owner
[3:19:41] could make any kind of
[3:19:44] modifications about the noise
[3:19:44] and about the violations and
[3:19:48] all of that?
[3:19:49] >> It it depends on what you
[3:19:54] mean by address In order to be
[3:19:55] able to approve a street or re
[3:19:58] here we would need to make sure
[3:19:59] that the street area operated
[3:19:59] according to the regulations
[3:20:03] for street trees um they don't
[3:20:08] specifically address noise but
[3:20:08] they do specifically address a
[3:20:13] lot of other things like hours
[3:20:13] of operation etc. So it really
[3:20:14] depends on what you're
[3:20:20] concerned with.
[3:20:20] Okay.
[3:20:24] I just I want to make sure that
[3:20:25] folks who are facing challenges
[3:20:26] from an adjacent business are
[3:20:29] able to get their a concerns
[3:20:30] addressed even though we MAY
[3:20:31] not be able to do that in
[3:20:31] the narrow grounds of a sequel
[3:20:32] appeal.
[3:20:34] So I will just leave that
[3:20:35] there.
[3:20:35] I understand that we're very
[3:20:39] limited right now on what we
[3:20:40] can review but I'm hopeful that
[3:20:40] there would be a process by
[3:20:41] which this could be done.
[3:20:44] So thank you.
[3:20:45] Thank you Councilmember
[3:20:46] Belmopan And to your point I
[3:20:48] just want emphasize a number of
[3:20:49] things that the appellant
[3:20:49] brought up are all descriptions
[3:20:53] of the project no longer in
[3:20:53] place they've made
[3:20:54] the application has been
[3:20:58] updated and I wanted to be very
[3:20:59] careful not to get distracted
[3:21:03] by how the application as you
[3:21:04] said we're constrained in a
[3:21:07] very narrow conversation about
[3:21:12] the environmental determination
[3:21:12] .
[3:21:13] And to your other point if I
[3:21:13] might.
[3:21:16] There was a decision by city
[3:21:17] council many years ago that
[3:21:18] projects were getting caught in
[3:21:21] a loop that the environmental
[3:21:21] was appealed to council.
[3:21:26] Council would send it back.
[3:21:26] The environmental would be
[3:21:27] updated.
[3:21:28] Only the environment would come
[3:21:28] up.
[3:21:30] They'd send it back again.
[3:21:31] So they made a decision that
[3:21:32] once the environmental thing
[3:21:35] gets appealed then council
[3:21:36] takes full responsibility for
[3:21:36] the project so you're not
[3:21:40] bouncing around.
[3:21:41] So to the degree that might be
[3:21:46] helpful and so so so there is a
[3:21:46] path for the applicant maybe
[3:21:50] not one they're going to like
[3:21:50] but there is a path.
[3:21:51] So I'll be candid about that.
[3:21:55] Councilmember Hemphill Thank
[3:21:55] you.
[3:21:56] >> Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[3:21:56] for the presentation staff I
[3:21:58] appreciate all the members of
[3:21:59] the public for their
[3:21:59] participation today.
[3:22:00] Obviously a small business
[3:22:03] trying to thrive and San Diego
[3:22:04] is going through a lot to do
[3:22:08] that and succeed and neighbors
[3:22:08] have concerns about impacts
[3:22:09] that happen in
[3:22:09] the neighborhood.
[3:22:13] I appreciate both of you for
[3:22:13] putting that forward.
[3:22:14] My question for staff So in
[3:22:17] essence the determination was
[3:22:22] to grant the application of
[3:22:26] restaurant and we have an
[3:22:31] appeal here.
[3:22:32] Did I not hear you correctly
[3:22:33] that the appellants who want to
[3:22:36] stop 710 from moving forward
[3:22:41] didn't submit what they needed
[3:22:42] to submit in a timely fashion?
[3:22:45] I thought I understood you
[3:22:46] saying that in response to
[3:22:47] the council PRESIDENT's
[3:22:47] question.
[3:22:49] That's correct.
[3:22:49] Okay.
[3:22:54] So is there not a municipal
[3:22:59] code or council policy that
[3:23:00] states that if you don't turn
[3:23:04] in as valid as some of their
[3:23:05] concerns and I hear them loud
[3:23:05] and clear are if they don't
[3:23:08] turn in their documentation
[3:23:09] appropriately, if they don't
[3:23:10] allow staff to have the ability
[3:23:13] to rebut it, is there not
[3:23:14] something in place in our code
[3:23:15] that says if you fail to turn
[3:23:18] this in it kind of moves
[3:23:18] forward?
[3:23:19] I know the council makes
[3:23:20] the ultimate final decision
[3:23:23] process five at this point but
[3:23:24] what is our policy or municipal
[3:23:28] code say about failing to
[3:23:33] protect your appeal rights?
[3:23:39] Our policy is if the appeal fee
[3:23:40] is paid and the form is filled
[3:23:43] out then the appeal is valid.
[3:23:44] The code requires an appeal to
[3:23:47] be valid but that that is
[3:23:48] the way that we currently
[3:23:48] interpret it.
[3:23:54] Okay.
[3:24:07] I feel like excuse me I see
[3:24:21] staff conversing occupied.
[3:24:22] I'm just wondering if
[3:24:27] the comments if there was
[3:24:27] something that needed to be
[3:24:28] said on the record I'm not
[3:24:29] we're not aware of anything in
[3:24:31] the code that says that they
[3:24:32] have to submit the paperwork at
[3:24:32] the time that they submit their
[3:24:33] application.
[3:24:33] Okay.
[3:24:38] All right.
[3:24:47] I I'm wondering if the well, as
[3:24:48] you heard what they were saying
[3:24:52] and you saw the evidence in
[3:24:53] front of you and the points
[3:24:54] that the appellant's were
[3:24:57] putting forward, is there
[3:24:58] anything you would like to add
[3:25:02] so that I can make my decision
[3:25:03] as to whether their points were
[3:25:04] valid or invalid Because it
[3:25:08] seems I mean I know that's hard
[3:25:08] work because you have to go
[3:25:09] through a lot of hoops with
[3:25:12] the city attorney's office with
[3:25:12] the departments to figure out
[3:25:13] what's going on it I feel like
[3:25:17] the place I've been put in is
[3:25:17] between a rock and a hard place
[3:25:21] where we have a valid appeal
[3:25:22] because they filed a piece of
[3:25:23] paper correctly but didn't give
[3:25:23] staff the ability to discern
[3:25:26] what was correct versus
[3:25:26] incorrect.
[3:25:27] And we have an applicant who
[3:25:28] has really worked hard to
[3:25:31] answer a million questions that
[3:25:32] undeniably the city puts him in
[3:25:35] place for small businesses.
[3:25:40] So do you have any response to
[3:25:44] the appellants that I can hear
[3:25:45] and making my determination
[3:25:49] What I can say is that
[3:25:50] the baseline conditions are
[3:25:54] the restaurant that is existing
[3:25:55] and including the noise that is
[3:25:55] already in the restaurant And
[3:25:59] we analyzed the what if whether
[3:26:00] the whether the secretary would
[3:26:04] cause an increase in noise and
[3:26:05] we determined that that would
[3:26:05] not be the case.
[3:26:08] Okay.
[3:26:09] So just last question for
[3:26:10] the city attorney.
[3:26:13] So there's nothing that's a
[3:26:14] waiver of your appeal rights in
[3:26:18] this process for failing to
[3:26:22] supply evidence or reasoning
[3:26:22] with a piece of paper where you
[3:26:27] check boxes.
[3:26:28] >> The code does not require
[3:26:28] submission of arguments at
[3:26:31] the time you submit your form.
[3:26:31] >> I understand.
[3:26:36] Okay.
[3:26:37] To add to that Councilmember
[3:26:37] Yes please.
[3:26:40] There is some case law that
[3:26:41] discusses this but generally
[3:26:46] the applicant can make
[3:26:46] additional arguments the day of
[3:26:47] the hearing so that is not
[3:26:50] legally prohibited or shortly
[3:26:51] before the hearing.
[3:26:51] However, there's always an
[3:26:55] option for the Council to
[3:26:56] continue the item to allow
[3:26:58] staff more time to evaluate
[3:27:08] what's been recently brought up
[3:27:08] .
[3:27:09] Thank you for that answer.
[3:27:14] I feel like well my my analysis
[3:27:15] of the situation is that it's
[3:27:19] it's I'm in a position where I
[3:27:20] can't make a decision without
[3:27:24] the staff's ability to respond
[3:27:24] to what in the presentation
[3:27:28] sounded like valid arguments.
[3:27:29] But on top of that to your
[3:27:33] point, MISS Fitzgerald,
[3:27:33] the without that information
[3:27:34] the applicant also can't defend
[3:27:37] themselves from those
[3:27:38] allegations as well.
[3:27:39] So we're in a place where it
[3:27:44] seems like the process has
[3:27:45] fallen apart a bit or at least
[3:27:46] or at least the rules we have
[3:27:46] in place don't allow us to
[3:27:49] discern very well.
[3:27:50] I won't belabor it any further.
[3:27:51] I think from a policy point of
[3:27:54] view my I think that to be able
[3:27:55] to give both sides the fairness
[3:27:58] of it there should be a
[3:27:59] continuance.
[3:27:59] But since that's not the motion
[3:28:00] on the floor I'll and my
[3:28:03] comments and I appreciate
[3:28:04] the council PRESIDENT For his
[3:28:07] questions and discernment thank
[3:28:13] you.
[3:28:13] All right.
[3:28:14] I don't see anybody else in
[3:28:14] lights but I will say member
[3:28:17] can't be if you want to work
[3:28:17] together to raise the bar.
[3:28:18] I am old enough to remember a
[3:28:22] time when appeals were actually
[3:28:22] judged whether they in fact
[3:28:23] were sufficient.
[3:28:26] Maybe it was the fact that we
[3:28:27] raised the fee to a thousand
[3:28:27] bucks That MAY have changed our
[3:28:31] thinking but I think there is
[3:28:31] some validity going forward to
[3:28:35] pursue that.
[3:28:36] So so I appreciate your line of
[3:28:40] questioning there.
[3:28:41] >> Council Member Foster it
[3:28:45] just a quick question and I
[3:28:46] guess I'm unclear on violations
[3:28:50] versus complaints I guess are
[3:28:54] there were there no were there
[3:28:59] no violations on record or.
[3:29:00] Well, I'm not understanding
[3:29:01] exactly where we stand with
[3:29:07] that.
[3:29:07] So you're referring to noise
[3:29:08] complaints versus other types
[3:29:11] of violations that perhaps So
[3:29:12] the what we are discussing in
[3:29:16] I'm assuming the issue is
[3:29:21] the noise is kind of as we're
[3:29:21] looking at the environmental
[3:29:22] part of this at least that's
[3:29:22] what I gathered from
[3:29:26] the conversation and I'm trying
[3:29:31] to understand And I think if
[3:29:31] the owner's here when he showed
[3:29:35] his presentation there was a
[3:29:36] note of a violation that said
[3:29:40] 1000 I think I said one k if I
[3:29:40] remember correctly.
[3:29:43] So I guess my question would be
[3:29:44] do we have a record of
[3:29:48] violations?
[3:29:49] >> So I'm sorry just just
[3:29:54] actual violations.
[3:29:55] Project is submitted in part in
[3:29:59] response to the st3 being out
[3:30:00] there in need of a permit.
[3:30:04] They were cited for having
[3:30:08] unpermitted st3 Okay And so
[3:30:09] that was that violation was
[3:30:09] cited by development services
[3:30:13] noise complaints go to
[3:30:14] the police department so I
[3:30:14] wouldn't have in-depth
[3:30:18] information on that at this
[3:30:18] time.
[3:30:18] >> Okay.
[3:30:19] So as it went through this
[3:30:23] process, at no point in time
[3:30:23] did you guys say Hey, Senegal
[3:30:27] pd Do we have any any valid
[3:30:27] findings regarding noise
[3:30:31] complaints?
[3:30:32] I don't believe we would
[3:30:36] consider that a secret issue.
[3:30:37] Okay.
[3:30:42] Courtney That wouldn't be an
[3:30:42] issue now Okay.
[3:30:43] >> We'll do at the end of
[3:30:44] the day as we look at
[3:30:46] the process, this is going to
[3:30:47] come back before council with I
[3:30:50] guess a if I understand this a
[3:30:51] revised sequel determination
[3:30:52] and then council makes a final
[3:30:55] decision Is regards to permit
[3:30:56] status I guess I'll say Is that
[3:31:01] correct If you if the council
[3:31:05] upholds the appeal, fine.
[3:31:05] Yes.
[3:31:06] Okay.
[3:31:06] All right.
[3:31:10] Thank you.
[3:31:11] >> Council member Campo again
[3:31:11] sorry.
[3:31:12] Just briefly So if the motion
[3:31:14] passes come back to us with a
[3:31:18] different resolution that would
[3:31:19] find that it does it does
[3:31:20] qualify under Secord that it is
[3:31:24] impacted or rather let me state
[3:31:28] it correctly saying that
[3:31:33] the project is not exempt from
[3:31:33] a sequel.
[3:31:34] Correct?
[3:31:34] That's what the new resolution
[3:31:38] would say because your
[3:31:38] determination from staff was
[3:31:43] that environmental
[3:31:43] determination is that
[3:31:44] the project is exempt from
[3:31:44] sequel.
[3:31:45] So you're going to come back to
[3:31:48] us with one saying it's not
[3:31:48] exempt from sequel, not
[3:31:52] necessarily.
[3:31:52] It just depends on
[3:31:53] the environmental analysis that
[3:31:53] is done.
[3:31:56] We could come back with another
[3:31:56] exemption.
[3:31:57] Understood.
[3:32:01] Okay.
[3:32:06] Understanding that this isn't
[3:32:11] the understanding that I I've
[3:32:11] total respect for what
[3:32:12] the council presidents put
[3:32:13] before us as a motion.
[3:32:16] I'm finding that the complete
[3:32:16] failure to provide evidence
[3:32:21] beforehand is what is really
[3:32:21] sticking in my mind as a
[3:32:22] procedural issue.
[3:32:26] I know that that's not a
[3:32:26] requirement we have but just as
[3:32:30] a pure matter of fairness, I
[3:32:30] sympathize with what
[3:32:31] the community is saying in
[3:32:32] terms of their concerns but I
[3:32:32] feel like we have to hold
[3:32:35] applicants and appellants to
[3:32:36] turning in the evidence
[3:32:40] appropriately for discernment.
[3:32:41] So I can't bring myself to vote
[3:32:42] in favor of the motion at this
[3:32:45] point just from a pure
[3:32:45] philosophical point of view.
[3:32:46] I don't disagree with where
[3:32:47] the council PRESIDENT Is coming
[3:32:50] from and I respect his motion
[3:32:50] but I'm going to have to vote
[3:32:51] no.
[3:32:51] All right.
[3:32:52] I can appreciate that and I
[3:32:55] appreciate your candor not
[3:32:55] seeing anybody else in
[3:32:56] the lights.
[3:33:01] We have a motion by myself and
[3:33:06] a second by council member
[3:33:07] Campbell up on the lights to
[3:33:07] grant the appeal and set aside
[3:33:07] the environmental
[3:33:07] determination.
[3:33:07] Clerk Please call the vote I'm
[3:33:07] sorry The voting system Please
[3:33:13] cast your vote.
[3:33:14] I'm sorry.
[3:33:16] Can you give me your vote for
[3:33:21] the record please?
[3:33:27] That passes 8 to 1 with Council
[3:33:27] member Campion voting no Thank
[3:33:31] you Council PRESIDENT All right
[3:33:31] .
[3:33:31] Thank you again.
[3:33:32] Thank you everybody that showed
[3:33:32] up.
[3:33:33] Thank you to staff for the good
[3:33:36] work that you did.
[3:33:40] So with that please introduce
[3:33:41] item 201 Item 2a1 is to
[3:33:41] determine and declare posted
[3:33:45] speed limits throughout
[3:33:46] the City of San Diego Vision
[3:33:46] zero Update and Findings of
[3:33:50] Speed a management Plan If
[3:33:50] you'd like to speak on this
[3:33:51] item now is the time to submit
[3:33:54] your speakers up to the front
[3:33:55] of the room in the clear box or
[3:33:56] if you are participating
[3:33:59] remotely please be sure to
[3:34:00] raise your hand by pressing
[3:34:00] Star nine or the raise your
[3:34:01] hand icon.
[3:34:04] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT All
[3:34:04] right.
[3:34:10] Thank you So staff you don't
[3:34:10] need to rush up too fast.
[3:34:11] We're going to let the chambers
[3:34:34] kind of empty out.
[3:34:58] Yeah, yeah.
[3:35:17] So you're out that if you
[3:35:18] wouldn't mind taking your
[3:35:22] conversation into the foyer or
[3:35:22] down the elevator into
[3:35:26] the lobby.
[3:35:30] All right, Staff item 201
[3:35:30] please introduce yourselves for
[3:35:31] the record and let us know how
[3:35:34] much time you need.
[3:35:35] Good afternoon.
[3:35:40] Council PRESIDENT Like other
[3:35:40] council members, my name is
[3:35:41] Alex Waldo.
[3:35:44] I'm the interim deputy director
[3:35:45] with the Transportation
[3:35:45] Department.
[3:35:46] i am joined by my colleague Eva
[3:35:49] Hauser, program manager with
[3:35:50] the Transportation Department
[3:35:54] as well and Naomi Chavez,
[3:35:54] interim director tdi.
[3:35:57] And we will need 15 minutes.
[3:36:01] >> All right, when you're ready
[3:36:06] By way of establishing a
[3:36:07] background, the city adopted a
[3:36:11] Vision Zero policy back in 2015
[3:36:11] .
[3:36:12] The goal of Vision Zero is to
[3:36:12] eliminate severe injuries and
[3:36:16] fatalities from traffic related
[3:36:17] crashes within the city.
[3:36:21] Vision Zero is a citywide
[3:36:21] effort with contributions from
[3:36:22] many different departments as
[3:36:25] listed on the photo here
[3:36:26] including police planning,
[3:36:30] communications development
[3:36:30] services, engineering and
[3:36:31] capital projects and
[3:36:35] Transportation Department.
[3:36:36] >> The city has tracked a
[3:36:37] number of severe injuries and
[3:36:40] fatalities each year since
[3:36:41] the adoption of Vision Zero.
[3:36:45] There's clearly still a lot
[3:36:45] more work to do.
[3:36:46] But this data here shows if you
[3:36:49] add a trend line, the total
[3:36:50] fatal and severe injury crashes
[3:36:52] have decreased in San Diego
[3:36:53] since 2018.
[3:36:53] This progress stands in
[3:36:58] contrast to the national trends
[3:36:58] which have seen increases in
[3:36:59] fatalities and injuries
[3:36:59] especially in the years
[3:37:06] following the covid 19 pandemic
[3:37:06] .
[3:37:11] >> All crashes matter but this
[3:37:11] data here shows that people
[3:37:12] walking are overrepresented in
[3:37:16] serious crashes and that's
[3:37:17] because they're the most
[3:37:17] vulnerable when interacting
[3:37:20] with vehicle traffic.
[3:37:25] The city's Vision Zero
[3:37:26] Strategic Plan is based on
[3:37:27] the following strategies that's
[3:37:30] listed here and this is what
[3:37:31] guides our work Every day we'll
[3:37:35] be reviewing these elements in
[3:37:35] more detail in the next few
[3:37:39] slides.
[3:37:43] The city's Vision Zero
[3:37:43] engineering efforts are at work
[3:37:44] every single day.
[3:37:48] We are responding to citizen
[3:37:49] requests which total nearly
[3:37:53] 7000 requests annually along
[3:37:54] with evaluating crash history
[3:37:57] at high incident locations we
[3:37:58] review crashes that result in
[3:37:59] fatalities.
[3:38:03] We conduct proactive systemwide
[3:38:03] safety analysis.
[3:38:07] We implement over 2000 traffic
[3:38:07] safety improvements annually
[3:38:08] and we also develop additional
[3:38:11] plans including the upcoming
[3:38:16] speed management plan.
[3:38:17] >> This slide talks to
[3:38:21] the volume of work that happens
[3:38:21] daily in our department.
[3:38:22] Despite our best efforts,
[3:38:25] the Department does not have
[3:38:26] the resources necessary to
[3:38:30] respond to all of the needs in
[3:38:31] the city.
[3:38:34] There is currently a need of
[3:38:35] $212 million annually to build
[3:38:36] the Vision Zero cap projects.
[3:38:39] We currently have a backlog of
[3:38:40] over 2300 traffic service
[3:38:41] requests for engineering
[3:38:45] evaluations and a backlog of
[3:38:45] nearly 2000 traffic improvement
[3:38:48] installations.
[3:38:49] A lot of what I've discussed so
[3:38:54] far has been related to
[3:38:54] engineering but there are two
[3:38:55] other components that are
[3:38:59] critical to help us meet our
[3:39:00] vision zero goals and that is
[3:39:04] education and enforcement.
[3:39:04] This slide illustrates just
[3:39:05] briefly the role of enforcement
[3:39:09] in dealing with speeds on our
[3:39:09] roads.
[3:39:10] We partner with police
[3:39:13] department and communications
[3:39:14] department to perform traffic
[3:39:14] enforcement in targeted areas
[3:39:16] and educate the community on
[3:39:21] roadway safety, education,
[3:39:22] community and creating a
[3:39:26] culture of safety.
[3:39:27] Make up the remaining portions
[3:39:28] of the strategic plan focusing
[3:39:31] on how people experience
[3:39:32] the city's efforts, apply them
[3:39:33] into their daily lives and know
[3:39:33] where to go.
[3:39:36] For more information.
[3:39:37] And again, the city's
[3:39:38] communications department works
[3:39:38] collaboratively with
[3:39:42] transportation, engineering and
[3:39:42] police to provide these updates
[3:39:43] and services to residents and
[3:39:47] the community.
[3:39:51] The city's vision Zero
[3:39:52] Strategic Plan uses many
[3:39:52] elements to address street
[3:39:53] safety.
[3:39:56] What I'll be focusing on now is
[3:39:57] our ability to make our changes
[3:40:01] to speed limits using recent
[3:40:01] changes in state legislation
[3:40:02] and the findings of the speed
[3:40:06] management plan To give a bit
[3:40:10] of a background In 2022
[3:40:10] the city applied for the safe
[3:40:14] streets for all federal grant
[3:40:15] and was awarded a three part
[3:40:16] award to develop supplemental
[3:40:19] plans to support a vision Zero
[3:40:20] strategic plan.
[3:40:20] One of those elements was
[3:40:21] the preparation of a
[3:40:22] comprehensive speed management
[3:40:27] plan.
[3:40:28] >> To give additional
[3:40:28] background on how speed limits
[3:40:32] are set, Transportation
[3:40:33] Department is responsible for
[3:40:37] performing the speed surveys to
[3:40:37] establish the speed limits
[3:40:41] citywide The speed surveys are
[3:40:42] done on a 7 to 14 year cycle
[3:40:45] about 842 miles are surveyed.
[3:40:46] That's a quarter of the street
[3:40:49] network Speed limits are based
[3:40:50] on the 85th percentile That's
[3:40:54] the speed at or below which 85%
[3:40:55] of drivers are traveling under
[3:40:55] free flow conditions And not
[3:40:59] all of our street network are
[3:41:00] surveyed.
[3:41:03] Any on and surveyed street are
[3:41:03] set at 25mph by default and
[3:41:07] these are mostly our
[3:41:08] residential streets.
[3:41:08] California vehicle code does
[3:41:09] require that speed limits be
[3:41:13] established by resolution.
[3:41:13] So any reductions that we're
[3:41:17] proposing as part of this plan
[3:41:18] will have to be updated by city
[3:41:22] council.
[3:41:23] This slide is a reminder that
[3:41:27] effective speed management is
[3:41:28] more than just about the posted
[3:41:28] speed.
[3:41:33] It's also about the conditions
[3:41:33] that encourage safe speeds and
[3:41:37] provide those safe crossings.
[3:41:37] The city's objective with
[3:41:38] the speed management plan is to
[3:41:41] implement the speed reductions
[3:41:42] with changes to the built
[3:41:42] environment.
[3:41:46] The photos shown here are our
[3:41:47] most prominent vision Zero
[3:41:48] projects and their evolution
[3:41:51] from traditional capital
[3:41:52] programing to our quick build
[3:41:53] installation of safety
[3:41:57] improvements The Quick Build
[3:41:57] Roundabout something
[3:41:58] the Transportation Department
[3:42:01] can build quickly in-house and
[3:42:02] significantly cheaper than
[3:42:06] the traditional build projects
[3:42:06] .
[3:42:07] The urgency that we're all
[3:42:07] feeling with Vision Zero really
[3:42:11] pushes our department to move
[3:42:11] faster with less resources.
[3:42:15] Hence the department is
[3:42:16] actively working on more of
[3:42:16] these quick build facilities In
[3:42:20] addition to finishing up
[3:42:20] several of these traditional
[3:42:25] build projects, the speed
[3:42:25] management plan is very data
[3:42:29] driven.
[3:42:30] It's using the data and
[3:42:31] information from the city's
[3:42:34] systemic safety analysis.
[3:42:35] That evaluation essentially
[3:42:35] looked at ten years worth of
[3:42:39] injury crash data to find
[3:42:40] patterns and common
[3:42:41] characteristics where these
[3:42:44] crash sites are happening And
[3:42:45] by doing that it allows
[3:42:45] the city to be more proactive
[3:42:49] and program improvements rather
[3:42:50] than reactive and waiting for
[3:42:54] crashes to occur.
[3:42:54] I think it's important to
[3:42:55] emphasize the speed management
[3:42:59] plan relies in part on
[3:42:59] the systemic safety analysis to
[3:43:00] help narrow candidate locations
[3:43:03] for speed reductions within
[3:43:04] the select categories of
[3:43:11] Assembly Bill 43 State Assembly
[3:43:12] Bill 43 b 43 allowed for a
[3:43:12] number of changes in
[3:43:15] the vehicle code which allows
[3:43:16] the cities to be more flexible
[3:43:17] when setting the speed limits
[3:43:21] The table here shows the four
[3:43:21] major categories that we will
[3:43:22] review and what they mean for
[3:43:25] speed reduction.
[3:43:29] >> ab 43 allows for an
[3:43:30] additional five mile per hour
[3:43:31] speed limit reduction for
[3:43:34] safety corridors for ped bike
[3:43:35] generators and business
[3:43:35] Activity district.
[3:43:39] It also allows further
[3:43:40] reduction at school zones and
[3:43:40] we'll go over each of these
[3:43:46] categories a bit more in detail
[3:43:46] .
[3:43:47] >> Safety corridor is defined
[3:43:51] as the highest number of severe
[3:43:51] fatal injury crashes and only
[3:43:52] about one fifth of the network
[3:43:55] can be in this category.
[3:43:56] >> The plan focuses on reducing
[3:43:57] speed limits along systemic
[3:44:01] safety corridor where fatal or
[3:44:02] severe injury crashes have
[3:44:02] occurred and where these common
[3:44:06] patterns or roadway
[3:44:06] characteristics are present
[3:44:10] speed reduction is important
[3:44:11] but as mentioned we also want
[3:44:11] to pair them with improvements
[3:44:15] for maximum safety benefits We
[3:44:20] are proposing in fiscal year 27
[3:44:20] cip budget request for a
[3:44:24] handful of quick build projects
[3:44:25] to help support the speed limit
[3:44:25] reductions at the safety
[3:44:28] corridors with additional
[3:44:29] requests planned in future
[3:44:33] years.
[3:44:34] >> The second criteria is
[3:44:38] the ped bike generators.
[3:44:39] This is defined as land use to
[3:44:40] generate high pedestrian or
[3:44:43] bicycle use.
[3:44:44] This triggers a lot of
[3:44:45] locations throughout the city
[3:44:48] Features like crosswalk
[3:44:49] sidewalks, bikeways can trigger
[3:44:50] this criteria so a lot of
[3:44:54] streets segments can qualify.
[3:44:54] The plan's approach is to focus
[3:44:58] on these where these measures
[3:44:59] are going to be most effective
[3:44:59] which is within the systemic
[3:45:03] safety corridors particularly
[3:45:04] on transit routes that generate
[3:45:08] high pedestrian and bicycle
[3:45:08] activity.
[3:45:09] In summary, the safety
[3:45:09] corridors and the ped bike
[3:45:13] generators are essentially
[3:45:14] being combined and proposing to
[3:45:14] reduce speed limits that would
[3:45:18] include all 488 intersections
[3:45:19] that's been identified through
[3:45:25] the systemic safety analysis.
[3:45:26] >> Business Activity District
[3:45:30] is another category where speed
[3:45:31] reductions are allowed.
[3:45:31] Transportation Department
[3:45:35] previously brought a package to
[3:45:35] council in APRIL 2025 that
[3:45:40] reduced speed limits along 11
[3:45:40] business corridors.
[3:45:44] The city regulations sets a
[3:45:45] very specific criteria for what
[3:45:46] qualifies as a business
[3:45:49] activity district and through
[3:45:50] this plan we evaluated the rest
[3:45:54] of the city to identify
[3:45:55] additional corridors that meet
[3:45:55] this criteria and are eligible
[3:46:00] for speed reduction and as a
[3:46:01] result qualifying business
[3:46:01] activity district streets
[3:46:04] across the city will see speed
[3:46:07] limits reduced down to 20 or
[3:46:08] 25mph depending on the street
[3:46:09] design and how that street
[3:46:12] functions.
[3:46:17] >> Finally we have the criteria
[3:46:18] for school zones.
[3:46:19] The plan recommends speed limit
[3:46:23] reductions at schools city wide
[3:46:26] lowering speeds to 15mph within
[3:46:31] 500ft of a school and 25mph
[3:46:31] between 500 and 1000ft of
[3:46:31] schools.
[3:46:35] The 15 mile per hour sign would
[3:46:36] typically have the standard
[3:46:39] when children present condition
[3:46:40] included as part of that
[3:46:41] signage And this approach is
[3:46:45] being proposed and applied
[3:46:45] consistently across all schools
[3:46:46] throughout the city of San
[3:46:46] Diego.
[3:46:50] We do receive a significant
[3:46:50] amount of requests from
[3:46:51] stakeholders, constituents,
[3:46:53] advocates to lower speeds
[3:46:59] especially near schools.
[3:46:59] This slide brings everything
[3:47:04] together The milage is broken
[3:47:04] down by the criteria shown.
[3:47:05] The key takeaway here is that
[3:47:09] through this plan the city is
[3:47:09] proposing speed limit
[3:47:12] reductions on roughly one fifth
[3:47:13] 20% of the overall roadway
[3:47:13] network.
[3:47:17] That's nearly 680 miles total.
[3:47:21] We can't emphasize enough.
[3:47:22] The plan also recommends
[3:47:23] funding for future safety
[3:47:23] improvements along these
[3:47:26] corridors and pairing speed
[3:47:27] reductions with traffic calming
[3:47:29] measures to make them most
[3:47:34] effective.
[3:47:35] Implementation is expected to
[3:47:39] begin in fiscal year 27 and
[3:47:40] that's contingent on funding
[3:47:44] the same crews who would
[3:47:45] install these speed limit signs
[3:47:49] are fully dedicated to parking
[3:47:50] operations and expansions and
[3:47:51] there are normal routine
[3:47:51] traffic service requests that
[3:47:54] they perform throughout
[3:47:54] the city to support
[3:47:55] implementation.
[3:47:59] We are requesting $2.4 million
[3:48:03] in fiscal year 27 that funding
[3:48:04] would cover materials and
[3:48:07] installation for approximately
[3:48:07] 3000 new speed limit signs
[3:48:12] including 1200 new poles, 3000
[3:48:13] signs exceeding more than half
[3:48:17] of our Sign Shop's annual
[3:48:17] capacity.
[3:48:18] So an external fabrication
[3:48:19] vendor will be needed to avoid
[3:48:23] impacting day to day operations
[3:48:26] That causes about $180,000.
[3:48:27] The remaining funds primarily
[3:48:31] cover staff overtime that's
[3:48:32] needed to deliver this work
[3:48:33] efficiently within one fiscal
[3:48:36] year If overtime funding is not
[3:48:37] approved, we do expect impacts
[3:48:41] to our routine traffic service
[3:48:42] requests and other traffic
[3:48:42] safety improvements simply
[3:48:46] because this work would be
[3:48:47] competing for those same
[3:48:50] limited staff resources.
[3:48:51] With this funding in place,
[3:48:52] however, the Department will be
[3:48:55] well positioned to deliver
[3:48:56] the speed management plan in a
[3:48:56] timely manner.
[3:48:57] Minimize impact StoryCorps
[3:49:00] services and accelerate safety
[3:49:01] benefits for communities
[3:49:02] throughout the city of San
[3:49:02] Diego.
[3:49:07] Thank you.
[3:49:08] All right.
[3:49:08] Thank you for your
[3:49:09] presentation.
[3:49:09] I do want to note for
[3:49:13] the record that we also have
[3:49:14] Tammy Chavez, the interim
[3:49:14] director of transportation as
[3:49:18] well as Bethany Dusek.
[3:49:18] And I'm sorry I have to read
[3:49:19] this.
[3:49:19] Chief Performance Logistics
[3:49:22] Officer We appreciate both of
[3:49:23] you being here for this item.
[3:49:23] So with that Clark, please
[3:49:27] proceed with public comment.
[3:49:27] Thank you.
[3:49:28] If I can have Aria Grossman,
[3:49:32] please come forward.
[3:49:33] You'll have a minute and a half
[3:49:36] and then if I can have Ian
[3:49:37] Hembree, Blair Beckman and Bob
[3:49:41] Kozinski please come forward to
[3:49:41] the other reserved seats at
[3:49:42] the front.
[3:49:42] Please proceed when ready.
[3:49:43] Hello.
[3:49:46] My name is Aria Grossman.
[3:49:46] I'm the policy manager at
[3:49:47] Circulate San Diego and I'm
[3:49:51] speaking in strong support of
[3:49:52] advancing the speed management
[3:49:52] plan.
[3:49:53] I want to thank you all for
[3:49:56] taking this up And to everyone
[3:49:56] who worked hard on this effort
[3:50:00] we know for a fact that
[3:50:01] lowering speed limits saves
[3:50:01] lives 5 or 10mph.
[3:50:02] It can be the difference
[3:50:06] between walking away from a
[3:50:06] crash and perishing.
[3:50:07] I am excited that the city is
[3:50:10] moving forward with this.
[3:50:11] I think it's a fantastic
[3:50:12] example of good leadership.
[3:50:15] I would also like to thank
[3:50:16] the Transportation Department
[3:50:16] for stating that it plans to
[3:50:17] prioritize school zones and
[3:50:20] this is implemented when this
[3:50:20] was heard at 80.
[3:50:24] We are very supportive of this
[3:50:25] approach as prioritizing Making
[3:50:25] streets safer for children
[3:50:30] should be a shared goal for all
[3:50:30] of us.
[3:50:31] I encourage the full council
[3:50:33] and the mayor to make funding
[3:50:34] implementation of this plan a
[3:50:37] priority in the 2027 budget.
[3:50:38] This effort, if paired with
[3:50:38] targeted infrastructure
[3:50:42] improvements like fixing
[3:50:43] the fatal 15 and the traffic
[3:50:44] calming measures we saw in
[3:50:47] the presentation will together
[3:50:48] go a long way towards making
[3:50:49] streets safer for San Diego
[3:50:49] residents.
[3:50:52] This plan that we're hearing
[3:50:53] today is great progress and
[3:50:54] the city has the chance to make
[3:50:54] a real difference with this
[3:50:57] effort through the budget
[3:50:58] process and I urge you to do
[3:50:58] so.
[3:50:59] Thank you very much.
[3:51:05] Thank you, Ian.
[3:51:05] Evening.
[3:51:05] Good evening.
[3:51:09] City Council My name is Ian
[3:51:10] Henry and I am the advocacy and
[3:51:11] community manager for the San
[3:51:12] Diego County Bicycle Coalition.
[3:51:14] I'm here to speak in favor of
[3:51:15] the adoption of the city's
[3:51:15] speed management plan.
[3:51:16] I want to begin by thanking
[3:51:19] the Transportation Department
[3:51:19] for the presentation and their
[3:51:20] hard work on this plan.
[3:51:23] It is truly ambitious and
[3:51:24] the speed reductions identified
[3:51:25] in this plan will save lives.
[3:51:25] Speed is one of the largest
[3:51:28] factors determining the outcome
[3:51:29] of a crash a person hit by a
[3:51:33] car at 40mph eight times more
[3:51:33] likely to die than a person hit
[3:51:34] by a car at 20mph.
[3:51:37] And for those who survive a
[3:51:38] crash, the effects can be life
[3:51:39] changing brain damage, lost
[3:51:39] limbs and burdensome medical
[3:51:42] bills are among the costs
[3:51:43] incurred by those who survive
[3:51:43] traffic violence.
[3:51:46] Reducing speed limits is
[3:51:47] the first most obvious step for
[3:51:48] making our streets safer.
[3:51:48] The next steps including
[3:51:51] building safer infrastructure,
[3:51:52] reallocating roadway space to
[3:51:53] other modes and increasing
[3:51:57] dangerous driving enforcement
[3:51:57] should follow Make our streets
[3:51:58] safer by approving this plan
[3:52:02] allocating the requested budget
[3:52:02] item for next year and
[3:52:03] following through with
[3:52:04] the commitments to plans,
[3:52:07] policies and projects that save
[3:52:07] lives.
[3:52:07] >> Thank you.
[3:52:08] Blaire Beekman Please come
[3:52:11] forward.
[3:52:17] Hi.
[3:52:17] Thank you.
[3:52:18] We're a big band.
[3:52:19] I just like to first very much
[3:52:21] thank Councilperson Von Wilpert
[3:52:22] who I think really nice
[3:52:26] questions about the previous
[3:52:26] item with the police chief
[3:52:27] about our current public safety
[3:52:31] practice is I think he did a
[3:52:32] really good job in asking
[3:52:35] important questions that I
[3:52:36] think work towards the concepts
[3:52:40] of peace in this time of we're
[3:52:41] in a fragile state of war.
[3:52:44] Good luck how we can talk in
[3:52:45] terms of openness and important
[3:52:46] questions of best practices and
[3:52:50] what vision Zero tries to do.
[3:52:51] I think you've taken a really
[3:52:54] good approach with Vision Zero
[3:52:54] and with technology issues
[3:52:58] overall you don't beat us over
[3:52:59] the head with with tech
[3:52:59] provision zero You don't want
[3:53:02] to overly enforce vision zero
[3:53:03] things.
[3:53:03] You want us as individuals of
[3:53:07] the community to come to our
[3:53:07] own conclusions that
[3:53:08] the slowing down is important
[3:53:11] and thank you You're doing that
[3:53:12] and you're you're working
[3:53:16] towards that Good principles of
[3:53:17] vision zero The quick build
[3:53:21] ideas that is also going to
[3:53:22] fast track new technology I
[3:53:25] hope you wanting to have more
[3:53:26] open accountable practices for
[3:53:30] all our technology the more you
[3:53:31] practice that open technology
[3:53:31] practices it simply invites
[3:53:35] better ideas and creative
[3:53:36] thinking for your projects
[3:53:36] Overall I see that at sandag
[3:53:39] all the time.
[3:53:40] I hope you can remember that
[3:53:46] it's important how we build our
[3:53:47] vision, our future.
[3:53:48] >> Thank you Bob because I key
[3:53:54] PRESIDENT LaCava I've been
[3:53:55] watching this meeting all day
[3:53:58] today and I understand that
[3:53:59] you're not a fifth grade
[3:54:00] teacher but I urge you to
[3:54:04] properly chastise and or
[3:54:04] discipline your fellow council
[3:54:08] members who are routinely chit
[3:54:09] chatting and looking at their
[3:54:13] phones while the citizens are
[3:54:14] speaking.
[3:54:14] They could at least pretend to
[3:54:18] pay attention Also PRESIDENT
[3:54:19] LaCava where's the picture of
[3:54:23] the PRESIDENT?
[3:54:24] I think it's been over a year
[3:54:25] now and I still don't see it in
[3:54:25] our chambers.
[3:54:28] We have had it there for as
[3:54:29] long as I've been coming here
[3:54:29] probably as long as you have
[3:54:30] to.
[3:54:33] Seems highly partizan and
[3:54:34] disrespectful to intentionally
[3:54:38] omit that from our chambers.
[3:54:38] Finally with regard to this
[3:54:42] particular item the cited speed
[3:54:46] of 85% that means 15% above it
[3:54:50] and 85% below it That already
[3:54:51] makes 15% of our citizens
[3:54:51] criminals.
[3:54:54] I think that's enough.
[3:54:59] >> Thank you.
[3:55:00] So the five minute time we're
[3:55:01] here in council chambers going
[3:55:02] to those participating remotely
[3:55:05] we currently have 13 speakers
[3:55:06] with their hands raised.
[3:55:06] Jason be if you can please on
[3:55:09] mute after that will be Becky
[3:55:10] Rep Jason please proceed.
[3:55:11] >> Hi I'm a resident of
[3:55:13] downtown.
[3:55:14] I fully support the speed limit
[3:55:15] plan and thank you to the city
[3:55:19] staff for putting it together.
[3:55:19] One thing I would like to see
[3:55:20] is a reduction of speed limits
[3:55:21] in our parks.
[3:55:23] I believe this use case is
[3:55:24] covered under ab 43 because
[3:55:25] parks are pedestrian and bike
[3:55:28] generators.
[3:55:29] The big one is East Mission Bay
[3:55:30] Drive which is inside Mission
[3:55:34] Bay Park and is used for both
[3:55:35] recreation and is also a key
[3:55:38] bike route for commuters and
[3:55:38] students to ucsd.
[3:55:39] But it's very dangerous because
[3:55:42] there are no bike lanes and
[3:55:43] cars speed down it at over 45
[3:55:47] miles an hour to skip traffic
[3:55:47] on the five.
[3:55:48] Another one is Balboa Drive on
[3:55:52] the West Mesa of Balboa Park.
[3:55:52] When the council voted against
[3:55:57] a multi-use path in favor of
[3:55:57] diagonal parking, we were
[3:55:58] promised that joggers and bikes
[3:56:01] would be safe because of a 15
[3:56:02] mile an hour speed limit there.
[3:56:06] However, somehow in
[3:56:07] the intervening time the speed
[3:56:07] limit was raised to 25 on
[3:56:11] Balboa Drive.
[3:56:12] And since then a cyclist has
[3:56:13] already been hit by a car And
[3:56:15] there's also no no no longer
[3:56:16] nearly as many people jogging
[3:56:20] and walking towards dogs on
[3:56:20] Balboa Drive.
[3:56:21] So please, you know, return
[3:56:25] the speed limit on billboards
[3:56:26] five at least to 15 if not ten
[3:56:26] miles an hour.
[3:56:27] >> Thank you.
[3:56:31] Next is Becky Rapp If you can
[3:56:31] please unmute.
[3:56:35] After that is the original
[3:56:36] booking rep I cannot meet for
[3:56:44] you but good afternoon.
[3:56:45] My name is Becky Rapp.
[3:56:46] Thank you for bringing this
[3:56:48] item forward As Vision Zero is
[3:56:49] critical to public safety and I
[3:56:53] urge you to consider a critical
[3:56:54] piece of traffic safety that is
[3:56:54] often overlooked and that's
[3:56:58] the drug impaired driving
[3:56:59] particularly driving high on
[3:56:59] marijuana.
[3:57:04] Unlike alcohol, there's
[3:57:04] currently no universally
[3:57:07] reliable roadside test that can
[3:57:08] measure real time marijuana
[3:57:12] impairment.
[3:57:13] Thc can remain in a person's
[3:57:17] system long after use and
[3:57:18] impairment levels vary widely
[3:57:18] from person to person.
[3:57:19] This creates a serious
[3:57:23] challenge for enforcement and
[3:57:24] for public safety because there
[3:57:27] is no clear threshold that
[3:57:28] guarantees safe driving.
[3:57:32] The safest public message is
[3:57:33] simple If you have use
[3:57:33] marijuana you should not drive
[3:57:37] vision zero.
[3:57:38] Should include stronger
[3:57:38] education enforcement tools and
[3:57:42] policy guidance addressing drug
[3:57:43] impaired driving just as it
[3:57:46] does for speeding distracted
[3:57:47] driving and alcohol impairment.
[3:57:48] >> Thank you.
[3:57:48] Thank you.
[3:57:53] Next is the original if you can
[3:57:53] please unmute.
[3:57:57] After that is very $180,000 for
[3:58:03] you guys is to go change and
[3:58:03] you got to go to a different
[3:58:04] company because they won't be
[3:58:08] able to handle all the signage
[3:58:08] in the bank.
[3:58:09] So when I talking about
[3:58:10] overtime it's like this has
[3:58:12] nothing to do with safety you
[3:58:12] guys and everything to do with
[3:58:16] controlling people's movements
[3:58:17] .
[3:58:17] You're actually putting people
[3:58:18] in danger by doing things like
[3:58:18] roundabouts.
[3:58:20] We've already seen the data
[3:58:21] come forward of this happening
[3:58:22] in other locations yet you guys
[3:58:26] refuse to acknowledge it So
[3:58:27] you're literally putting people
[3:58:28] in danger by putting in that
[3:58:32] type of infrastructure and we
[3:58:32] shouldn't have to pay for it
[3:58:33] because you guys want to
[3:58:36] control our minutes but you
[3:58:37] need to quit telling people
[3:58:38] that this is for safety And you
[3:58:42] know all of this and that
[3:58:42] because in reality like doesn't
[3:58:43] matter.
[3:58:46] People are always going to die.
[3:58:47] It's a part of life and nothing
[3:58:48] you guys do is actually going
[3:58:51] to slow that down especially
[3:58:51] when you guys are engaged in it
[3:58:52] yourself.
[3:58:56] It's just disgusting because
[3:58:56] it's like you want to sit here
[3:59:00] and you know literally make it
[3:59:01] so that people drive around
[3:59:01] more by taking away parking
[3:59:06] spots and lanes and then making
[3:59:06] things slower and you act like
[3:59:07] not only is that going to bring
[3:59:10] public safety but that it's
[3:59:11] going to save the planet And
[3:59:12] it's just it's ridiculous how
[3:59:16] much money we have to spend in
[3:59:16] order for you guys to change
[3:59:17] something like that.
[3:59:20] We shouldn't have to spend
[3:59:20] $180,000 on parking signs
[3:59:24] because you guys want to go in
[3:59:24] and lower the speed limit when
[3:59:25] there's people on the street
[3:59:26] suffering and dying because of
[3:59:29] your guys is negligent.
[3:59:30] >> Your time has concluded.
[3:59:30] Harry if you can please unmute.
[3:59:34] After that is gathering.
[3:59:35] >> Good afternoon Everybody is
[3:59:39] here with respect Bird rock.
[3:59:39] I'm speaking in support of this
[3:59:40] item.
[3:59:44] Thank you to the 80 I committee
[3:59:45] for their unanimous vote and
[3:59:45] shared with friends office and
[3:59:47] city staff for
[3:59:48] the Transportation Department
[3:59:49] for their enormous work and
[3:59:52] the mayor's direction.
[3:59:53] Speed determines whether
[3:59:53] someone walks away or is
[3:59:54] carried away.
[3:59:58] This plan will make San Diego a
[3:59:59] statewide leader in
[4:00:03] implementing 8043 lower speed,
[4:00:03] save lives and protect
[4:00:04] children, seniors and everyone
[4:00:08] who drives walks or bikes
[4:00:08] reduces emergency response or
[4:00:13] litigation costs, creates quiet
[4:00:14] or more peaceful neighborhoods
[4:00:15] and safe streets are good for
[4:00:18] business in Bird with street
[4:00:18] parking revenues went up and
[4:00:19] jobs increased.
[4:00:19] We're grateful that La Hoya
[4:00:23] Boulevard is included.
[4:00:23] We appreciate Councilmember
[4:00:24] Lacob and his staff responding
[4:00:28] to many community concerns.
[4:00:29] I continue to work with
[4:00:29] residents.
[4:00:30] The city could sell street
[4:00:30] signs that the revenue
[4:00:33] generator like other cities do
[4:00:34] to offset costs.
[4:00:34] That's just a quick idea.
[4:00:39] But the cost of implementation
[4:00:39] is modest.
[4:00:40] The cost of doing nothing is
[4:00:44] measured in lives lost.
[4:00:45] We support this plan and
[4:00:45] prioritize implementation
[4:00:50] especially in smaller roads and
[4:00:50] high traffic recreation
[4:00:51] corridors, parks and beach
[4:00:54] access areas from Moline to
[4:00:55] Mission Bay Drive.
[4:00:55] >> Thank you.
[4:01:00] Next is Guthrie.
[4:01:01] >> After that is Leif if you
[4:01:01] can please.
[4:01:02] I'm you.
[4:01:02] Hi.
[4:01:05] Thank you so much guys, This is
[4:01:05] this is great news.
[4:01:06] I'm so excited for this.
[4:01:10] This is the type of bold and
[4:01:10] important action we need.
[4:01:11] It's a vision.
[4:01:15] Zero is a thing that breaks my
[4:01:16] heart every day.
[4:01:16] I've heard way too many stories
[4:01:20] of children dying of parents
[4:01:21] dying of pregnant mothers
[4:01:21] dying.
[4:01:22] Just this year in L.A. We get
[4:01:26] to do something special.
[4:01:26] We get to show the state that
[4:01:27] this is an important issue and
[4:01:29] that we're going to take
[4:01:30] the initiative and actually
[4:01:31] address it.
[4:01:31] So I encourage you to follow
[4:01:32] through with what your staff is
[4:01:36] recommending.
[4:01:37] Follow through with lowering
[4:01:37] the speed limits.
[4:01:38] Follow through with
[4:01:38] implementing the actual
[4:01:41] physical safely safety
[4:01:42] structures to make this happen
[4:01:46] Because I do want to say I'm as
[4:01:47] excited as I am about this.
[4:01:51] Signs are signs right?
[4:01:52] And as a YouTuber I watch once
[4:01:56] said physics is more powerful
[4:01:57] than science So I would
[4:01:58] encourage you to implement
[4:01:58] stuff like Limits as new quick
[4:02:02] build speed bumps implement
[4:02:03] the other quick build measures
[4:02:03] that your staff are talking
[4:02:07] about.
[4:02:08] We have opportunities to save
[4:02:12] lives and I love what Harry
[4:02:13] said The cost of inaction is
[4:02:13] measured in lives.
[4:02:17] The cost of action is really
[4:02:18] pennies on the dollar for what
[4:02:19] our transportation budget is.
[4:02:22] So I encourage you to pass this
[4:02:23] measure and just show people
[4:02:24] that you care about their
[4:02:24] lives.
[4:02:29] Thank you.
[4:02:29] Thank you.
[4:02:30] The five minute timer has
[4:02:31] completed three speakers in
[4:02:31] the queue and additional
[4:02:32] speakers will be taken leave if
[4:02:38] you can please unmute somebody
[4:02:39] .
[4:02:39] Hello my name is Left Campbell
[4:02:40] and I'm the vice PRESIDENT Of
[4:02:44] Writers The and there's not a
[4:02:45] strong support of this measure.
[4:02:45] Please approve It has not been
[4:02:48] said from free to speak.
[4:02:49] I can't really say much more to
[4:02:50] it but I want to point out a
[4:02:51] couple of things Where is great
[4:02:53] that we're going to reduce
[4:02:53] the speed limit?
[4:02:54] I strongly agree that we have
[4:02:55] to put in physical barriers to
[4:02:58] actually ensure that people
[4:02:59] keep to the speed limit.
[4:03:00] That should also come with
[4:03:00] enforcement For people going
[4:03:03] over the speed limit.
[4:03:04] Ultimately also what we want to
[4:03:05] see is we want to see
[4:03:05] structures that encourage
[4:03:10] pedestrians to walk safely What
[4:03:11] they want to go have bike lanes
[4:03:12] that are physically separated
[4:03:14] that gives cyclists more safety
[4:03:15] when they ride the bike.
[4:03:16] And then long term what we also
[4:03:17] want to see is we want to see
[4:03:19] dedicated bus lanes and trying
[4:03:20] to signal priority so people
[4:03:21] can go to the places where they
[4:03:26] want to go fast And then also
[4:03:26] if people do want to have a
[4:03:27] drink we highly encourage them
[4:03:31] to take public transport so
[4:03:32] that they don't try to drive.
[4:03:33] Thank you for for the attention
[4:03:37] to this to this item and please
[4:03:38] put it Thank you.
[4:03:38] >> Thank you.
[4:03:39] Next is Zach If you come please
[4:03:44] unmute Zach please I'm here.
[4:03:49] >> Thank you.
[4:03:50] I'm calling in from district
[4:03:51] five to support this measure.
[4:03:55] As everybody here is aware,
[4:03:55] multiple children died last
[4:03:56] year either near a school or on
[4:03:57] their way to school And that is
[4:04:01] something that I am unwilling
[4:04:01] to accept.
[4:04:02] And again this measure passed
[4:04:02] through committee and through
[4:04:06] council as I hope it is would
[4:04:06] show us that the City Council
[4:04:07] is unable to accept that as a
[4:04:12] cost of doing business too.
[4:04:12] And as multiple commenters have
[4:04:16] pointed out, speed of vehicles
[4:04:17] makes a huge difference in
[4:04:18] pedestrian safety.
[4:04:21] 5 or 10mph doesn't mean a lot
[4:04:22] when you're behind the wheel of
[4:04:22] a car.
[4:04:23] But if you're hit by a car that
[4:04:26] is the difference between as
[4:04:27] another commentary about input
[4:04:28] being carried away and walking
[4:04:32] away.
[4:04:33] I do want to second the calls
[4:04:33] to increase enforcement in
[4:04:37] these zones and add
[4:04:38] infrastructure to for both
[4:04:39] traffic calming as well as
[4:04:43] pedestrian friendly and safe
[4:04:44] bike infrastructure since a
[4:04:49] sign will only go so far, it
[4:04:49] must be paired with other
[4:04:50] measures to ensure that drivers
[4:04:51] are actually following those
[4:04:55] signs.
[4:04:56] I particularly think of a road
[4:04:56] near me Castello Seal which
[4:04:57] runs in fronof middle hool
[4:04:59] and frequently parents are
[4:05:00] parked in the bike lanes and
[4:05:01] kids riding to and from school
[4:05:06] or forced to merge with 35 mile
[4:05:07] per hour traffic just to get to
[4:05:07] their classes which is
[4:05:12] completely unsafe And they
[4:05:13] protected bike infrastructure
[4:05:13] would go a long way bearing
[4:05:14] with this to keeping them safe.
[4:05:18] Thank you.
[4:05:19] Thank you.
[4:05:19] Next is John Stump if you can
[4:05:20] please unmute after that is an.
[4:05:23] Johnstone.
[4:05:24] >> Speed kills there's no
[4:05:29] question about it You know in
[4:05:29] the time since we've been
[4:05:34] tracking automobile deaths and
[4:05:35] injuries the number of deaths
[4:05:40] and injuries has kept at about
[4:05:45] just under 50,000 a year.
[4:05:45] Now the decrease at first was
[4:05:50] because we put in padded dashes
[4:05:51] and collapsible steering wheels
[4:05:51] and all those sort of things.
[4:05:56] But the real problem is speed.
[4:05:57] I support this item.
[4:06:01] I hope that enforcement will
[4:06:02] enforce speed limits on Home
[4:06:02] Avenue.
[4:06:08] I live a half mile from it and
[4:06:08] every night it's a track.
[4:06:13] Home avenue please include
[4:06:14] speed containment on Home
[4:06:14] Avenue in District four.
[4:06:19] Thank you.
[4:06:20] Thank you.
[4:06:21] And if you can please unmute.
[4:06:24] After that is Kathryn Douglas.
[4:06:25] >> Hey good afternoon.
[4:06:32] My name is an r so I have and
[4:06:32] I'm the executive director of
[4:06:33] Bike City.
[4:06:33] I want to thank city staff and
[4:06:36] this council for making
[4:06:37] the right choice here and
[4:06:38] advancing the speed management
[4:06:42] plan And I look forward to it
[4:06:43] passing and eventually being
[4:06:43] implemented.
[4:06:44] About two years ago City
[4:06:48] launched our legislation that
[4:06:49] saves lives campaigns.
[4:06:49] The push for the implementation
[4:06:53] of two critical state laws ab
[4:06:54] 43 and ab 413.
[4:06:55] These laws together give cities
[4:06:58] the tools to reduce speeds and
[4:06:59] improve visibility at
[4:06:59] intersections.
[4:07:00] Proven ways to save lives on
[4:07:00] our streets.
[4:07:04] We're grateful for
[4:07:05] the willingness of many council
[4:07:06] members and staff to have met
[4:07:09] with us over the past two years
[4:07:10] and work collaboratively to
[4:07:10] move this forward.
[4:07:11] Lowering speed limits is a
[4:07:14] meaningful step in the right
[4:07:15] direction.
[4:07:16] But if we want to truly achieve
[4:07:16] Vision Zero we know that signs
[4:07:20] alone are not enough.
[4:07:20] The next step must be street
[4:07:21] reconfiguration and
[4:07:22] infrastructure that actually
[4:07:26] slows vehicles down By design
[4:07:27] that means safer intersections,
[4:07:32] daylighting traffic calming and
[4:07:33] protected spaces for people
[4:07:33] walking and biking as well as
[4:07:34] enforcement.
[4:07:38] We appreciate the progress
[4:07:39] today and look forward to
[4:07:40] continuing to work with
[4:07:40] the city to build streets that
[4:07:45] are truly safe for all San
[4:07:46] Diegans.
[4:07:46] >> Thank you.
[4:07:47] Thank you, Kathryn Douglas and
[4:07:47] then Nicole.
[4:07:51] Your final speaker, Speaker
[4:07:51] Nicole Burgess.
[4:07:52] Long meeting today.
[4:07:57] It's not that I'm opposed to
[4:07:58] lowering speed limits but that
[4:07:59] alone is not going to solve
[4:08:03] the issue You hope to mitigate
[4:08:04] .
[4:08:04] Lowering the speed limit will
[4:08:05] have zero effect unless coupled
[4:08:09] with consistent widespread
[4:08:10] enforcement which we do not
[4:08:10] have.
[4:08:11] Lowering the speed limit does
[4:08:16] not change bad behavior.
[4:08:16] Enforcement changes bad
[4:08:16] behavior.
[4:08:22] But the $2.4 million into cpd
[4:08:23] so they can do the need for
[4:08:24] enforcement.
[4:08:27] I'm going to reiterate.
[4:08:28] Lowering the speed limit will
[4:08:32] have zero in fact unless
[4:08:33] coupled with consistent
[4:08:34] widespread enforcement which we
[4:08:34] do not have.
[4:08:39] Lowering the speed limit does
[4:08:39] not change bad behavior.
[4:08:40] Enforcement changes bad
[4:08:45] behavior.
[4:08:46] Thank you.
[4:08:46] Thank you, Nicole.
[4:08:47] If you can please unmute.
[4:08:51] If you raise your hand after
[4:08:52] that there are no more speakers
[4:08:53] to be taken.
[4:08:53] The five minute timer had
[4:08:54] concluded.
[4:08:57] Nicole please proceed.
[4:08:57] Good afternoon.
[4:08:58] My name's Nicole Burgess and
[4:08:59] I'm here to show support for
[4:09:03] the speed management plan and
[4:09:04] all quick build projects that
[4:09:05] can come up with a good budget
[4:09:09] management.
[4:09:10] I appreciate all of you staff
[4:09:10] and all the awards that have
[4:09:15] brought this forward to try to
[4:09:16] get this to this point and I
[4:09:17] appreciate all of you for your
[4:09:17] support.
[4:09:21] Moving this forward for all
[4:09:22] the reasons that so many
[4:09:23] speakers have said speed saves
[4:09:27] lives So speed kills and slower
[4:09:27] speeds always lives.
[4:09:33] So imagine you on a 30 mile an
[4:09:34] hour street riding your bike.
[4:09:39] The thing that's going to make
[4:09:40] you feel more comfortable is
[4:09:41] when those cars are going 20mph
[4:09:41] or less.
[4:09:45] Our kids going to school is
[4:09:46] the biggest thing.
[4:09:46] So I appreciate that being our
[4:09:47] focus.
[4:09:47] Safe routes to schools and
[4:09:50] getting these kids active and
[4:09:51] moving to school is going to be
[4:09:52] the best thing we can do for
[4:09:52] our kids.
[4:09:53] So all around this is better
[4:09:56] for our communities, our
[4:09:57] people, the people on
[4:09:57] the streets every day whether
[4:10:02] you're in a car bike fight
[4:10:03] we're all going to be safer.
[4:10:04] So thank you staff and board
[4:10:09] for pushing this forward and I
[4:10:10] appreciate you all on this.
[4:10:10] Thank you.
[4:10:10] Thank you.
[4:10:11] That does conclude public
[4:10:15] comment and item two to
[4:10:16] present.
[4:10:16] Thank you City Clerk with that
[4:10:20] So I'll turn it over to my
[4:10:21] colleagues on the council for
[4:10:22] questions, comments and
[4:10:22] entertain a motion and we'll
[4:10:27] start out with the chair of
[4:10:28] Active Transportation
[4:10:28] Infrastructure.
[4:10:29] Council Member Clyburn Thank
[4:10:29] you Council PRESIDENT And
[4:10:33] thanks to everybody who came
[4:10:34] out or called in to offer
[4:10:34] public comment on this
[4:10:35] The active transportation
[4:10:38] infrastructure Committee voted
[4:10:39] unanimously last month to
[4:10:40] recommend the council pass this
[4:10:45] And I think my committee
[4:10:45] colleagues for that and I want
[4:10:46] to thank the Transportation
[4:10:47] Department for all the work
[4:10:50] that has got into this and this
[4:10:51] has been a lot of work.
[4:10:51] I appreciate all of
[4:10:52] the neighborhood residents and
[4:10:56] traffic safety advocates who've
[4:10:57] been calling for speed limit
[4:10:57] reductions for a long time.
[4:10:58] They have inspired much of this
[4:11:02] work.
[4:11:03] This will make our neighborhood
[4:11:03] safer by reducing speed limits
[4:11:04] at school zones, business
[4:11:08] districts and areas with lots
[4:11:09] of pedestrians and bicyclists
[4:11:10] and in places where there have
[4:11:10] been a lot of crashes.
[4:11:15] Speed limits in school zones
[4:11:16] will be reduced to 15 miles an
[4:11:17] hour where children are
[4:11:17] present.
[4:11:18] This will be much safer
[4:11:21] especially for young children
[4:11:22] who MAY not be paying attention
[4:11:22] to traffic.
[4:11:25] Most other areas that get lower
[4:11:26] speed limits will see a five
[4:11:26] mile an hour reduction Just
[4:11:27] slowing down speeds a little
[4:11:31] bit could make a big difference
[4:11:31] in safety.
[4:11:32] People across the city have
[4:11:33] been asking for this.
[4:11:33] Our neighborhoods want safer
[4:11:38] streets with slower speeds.
[4:11:39] Many people are asking us to
[4:11:39] prioritize the school zones
[4:11:44] where we begin implementing
[4:11:45] the reduced speed limits.
[4:11:46] MR. Grossman from circulating
[4:11:46] the Eagle Report started her
[4:11:50] comments this afternoon.
[4:11:50] So for the record I'll ask
[4:11:51] the same question that I asked
[4:11:52] a committee which is can we
[4:11:56] start by reducing speed limits
[4:11:57] in school zones?
[4:11:57] That's great Council Member
[4:12:02] It'll be prioritized at school
[4:12:03] zones.
[4:12:03] Thank you very much and thank
[4:12:04] you again for all of your work
[4:12:09] on this.
[4:12:10] And I will make the motion to
[4:12:11] adopt the staff recommendation.
[4:12:12] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[4:12:12] All right.
[4:12:12] Thank you.
[4:12:15] Council Member Towns So we do
[4:12:15] have a motion to move the staff
[4:12:16] recommendation by council
[4:12:17] member and we'll go next to
[4:12:26] council member camp You so
[4:12:27] maybe we want to thank
[4:12:27] the council member committee
[4:12:38] for want to give him a second
[4:12:39] when the time comes back and
[4:12:40] we'll go next to council member
[4:12:40] elevator.
[4:12:43] All right.
[4:12:46] I think I'll withhold
[4:12:47] the second First I think it's
[4:12:54] important to correct.
[4:12:54] I will go next to council
[4:12:55] member Campbell.
[4:12:55] My apologies.
[4:12:56] Thank you.
[4:12:56] Sorry.
[4:12:59] Council member deliverer Thank
[4:12:59] you.
[4:13:00] Staff Thank you very much for
[4:13:01] your presentation, your good
[4:13:01] work.
[4:13:05] I'm happy to second the item
[4:13:05] and I think council member
[4:13:06] Whitburn for his good work and
[4:13:07] his partnership and quite
[4:13:10] frankly the entire Council's
[4:13:11] partnership on this type of
[4:13:11] issue We hear from constituents
[4:13:16] so often about how they just
[4:13:16] want safety in their community
[4:13:22] and I can point to police, we
[4:13:23] can point to fire and very,
[4:13:24] very often I point to
[4:13:24] the Transportation Department
[4:13:28] for their work as colleagues of
[4:13:29] shared Eliminating preventable
[4:13:34] traffic deaths is so important.
[4:13:35] The heartbreak we see in
[4:13:35] communities lasts a lifetime
[4:13:39] and it's a fundamental
[4:13:40] responsibility to make sure
[4:13:40] residents can move around
[4:13:41] safely.
[4:13:45] And we know that unsafe driving
[4:13:46] is the primary cause of
[4:13:46] the severe crashes we see And
[4:13:47] what I've heard for so many
[4:13:51] times in so many town halls is
[4:13:52] that lowering speeds is what
[4:13:53] people want to see.
[4:13:53] And I've always had to point
[4:13:57] back to state law or antiquated
[4:13:58] regulations that say we really
[4:13:58] can't do that for all these
[4:14:03] different reasons But today we
[4:14:04] can fix that and we have an
[4:14:04] action before us That's a major
[4:14:05] step forward And I want to
[4:14:09] recognize the significant
[4:14:10] effort of staff and state
[4:14:10] partners and advocates,
[4:14:11] community members, council
[4:14:16] colleagues battling this act.
[4:14:16] Thank you so much.
[4:14:17] People should know that you've
[4:14:18] saved so many lives in this
[4:14:22] city And of course as the staff
[4:14:22] report notes, this isn't this
[4:14:23] isn't the only thing we're
[4:14:27] doing Lowering speeds alone is
[4:14:28] not the whole picture.
[4:14:28] Safety comes with pairing new
[4:14:29] limits with design improvements
[4:14:33] and education and enforcement
[4:14:33] to truly change that behavior.
[4:14:34] And so while today's action
[4:14:38] sets a new speed limits $2.4
[4:14:39] million are needed to install
[4:14:40] those 3000 new signs needed to
[4:14:44] operationalize it.
[4:14:45] As we discussed last week,
[4:14:46] the ip outlook shows the gap we
[4:14:49] have in mobility safety funding
[4:14:50] which is the same pot that
[4:14:51] supports these safety projects
[4:14:55] that communities ask for For
[4:14:56] District seven.
[4:14:56] Many of the corridors in
[4:14:57] the speed management plan
[4:14:58] include Jackson Drive and
[4:15:01] Waring Road, Zion Avenue,
[4:15:02] Claremont Mesa Boulevard so
[4:15:02] many school area streets where
[4:15:07] families are walking and biking
[4:15:08] every day and where these
[4:15:09] paired safety upgrades will
[4:15:09] matter the most.
[4:15:13] So with all of that in mind
[4:15:13] staff, my question for you is
[4:15:14] what is the plan to prioritize
[4:15:19] and coordinate the work so that
[4:15:19] we can see the reductions and
[4:15:20] those improvements roll out
[4:15:25] along this course?
[4:15:26] So we will prioritize areas as
[4:15:30] we mentioned where the safety
[4:15:31] benefit is going to be
[4:15:32] the highest and that's starting
[4:15:37] with the schools located along
[4:15:38] safety corridors or near safety
[4:15:38] corridors followed by other
[4:15:43] school areas and then we can
[4:15:44] work on the rest of the safety
[4:15:45] corridors themselves followed
[4:15:45] by the business activity
[4:15:46] district.
[4:15:49] But that's how it's being
[4:15:50] prioritized currently based on
[4:15:50] feedback that we received.
[4:15:55] >> Understood.
[4:15:55] Well, I appreciate the good
[4:15:56] work of the Transportation
[4:15:57] Department working with my
[4:15:57] office, with my staff and and
[4:16:01] working with your team whether
[4:16:01] it's 730 in the morning paving
[4:16:02] roads or we're talking in
[4:16:06] briefings about how we're going
[4:16:07] to make places safer for people
[4:16:07] to walk.
[4:16:08] My constituents deeply
[4:16:14] appreciate this item And so I
[4:16:15] that will conclude my second.
[4:16:15] >> All right.
[4:16:15] Thank you.
[4:16:16] Council member committee Also
[4:16:17] we have a motion by
[4:16:19] Councilmember Whitburn,
[4:16:20] the second by Councilmember
[4:16:20] Kemp.
[4:16:21] He told me the staff
[4:16:21] recommendation will go back to
[4:16:24] council member Eli Romero.
[4:16:25] PRESIDENT Thanks for all
[4:16:25] the work that is here.
[4:16:26] I do want to just quickly
[4:16:30] correct record because Council
[4:16:31] PRESIDENT You were unfairly
[4:16:36] blamed for something so came
[4:16:37] down a few years ago came down
[4:16:42] before this PRESIDENT For my
[4:16:43] direction because I thought it
[4:16:44] was weird to the PRESIDENT's
[4:16:48] head floating in our chambers.
[4:16:48] This is not a monarchy.
[4:16:49] This is a city council chambers
[4:16:55] And thank GOD that that fascist
[4:16:55] base is in in here.
[4:17:00] So on the other hand I'm sorry
[4:17:01] you take enough in that seat
[4:17:04] you don't need to take residual
[4:17:05] for my decisions of a couple
[4:17:12] years ago is a super important
[4:17:13] and I'm really really grateful
[4:17:13] that this is here in this way
[4:17:18] This has been said time and
[4:17:18] time again Speed kills and
[4:17:19] slower speeds save lives.
[4:17:22] We know that.
[4:17:23] We've known that And far too
[4:17:28] many times we've heard families
[4:17:29] of victims of traffic violence
[4:17:35] beg with us to make streets
[4:17:36] safer in the city not because
[4:17:36] it will bring back their loved
[4:17:41] ones because they with all of
[4:17:42] their hearts do not want to see
[4:17:43] anybody else feel the pain that
[4:17:47] they feel on a daily basis And
[4:17:48] they can see throughout
[4:17:53] the city the many, many places
[4:17:53] where people's lives are in
[4:17:54] danger.
[4:17:58] And we saw a couple of just
[4:18:05] unspeakable tragedies last fall
[4:18:06] one in Catholic appeals
[4:18:06] district, another in District
[4:18:11] nine where a five year old died
[4:18:12] crossing the street.
[4:18:17] And I remember vividly learning
[4:18:18] about that and it was right
[4:18:24] around Halloween and I remember
[4:18:24] holding my son's hand so tight
[4:18:25] that weekend when we were going
[4:18:29] out to look at the monsters
[4:18:30] that he enjoyed looking at in
[4:18:36] different neighborhoods And we
[4:18:40] just have to do better by and I
[4:18:41] know we are and this is a great
[4:18:47] step in that direction.
[4:18:48] I want to kind of Yes And some
[4:18:49] of the comments that we heard
[4:18:53] about this not being enough we
[4:18:53] know it's not enough.
[4:18:54] We know that this requires
[4:18:59] investment and I think one of
[4:19:00] the one of the issues that this
[4:19:04] council has been super, super
[4:19:05] collaborative about and an
[4:19:06] agreement about is the need to
[4:19:06] make our streets safer and to
[4:19:16] invest in the changes.
[4:19:16] So it is true that simply
[4:19:17] posting a street sign won't
[4:19:22] necessarily improve safety but
[4:19:23] it is a step in the right
[4:19:24] direction and we know that it
[4:19:28] will help reduce speed and we
[4:19:29] can make changes by way of
[4:19:29] traffic calming and street
[4:19:34] redesign and enforcement
[4:19:34] strategies.
[4:19:35] Ultimately this is about
[4:19:35] accountability and not just
[4:19:41] accountability for dangerous
[4:19:41] drivers but accountability for
[4:19:42] us as a city and demonstrating
[4:19:43] that if we're serious about
[4:19:46] eliminating traffic fatalities
[4:19:46] that we're going to invest in
[4:19:47] every tool available from
[4:19:52] street management to safety
[4:19:53] redesign to data driven
[4:19:53] investments.
[4:19:54] I will just be besides why I
[4:19:58] think given where we're at in
[4:19:58] terms of our structural budget
[4:19:59] deficit, the backlog in street
[4:20:00] repairs, why it's going to be
[4:20:01] so important for us to continue
[4:20:08] to lean into and know I've said
[4:20:09] this time and time again but
[4:20:10] quick build projects and
[4:20:13] working with community to to
[4:20:14] make changes quickly so that
[4:20:15] communities aren't told that
[4:20:20] the changes that they need are
[4:20:21] going to come in a decade or
[4:20:26] decade and a half but instead
[4:20:26] in the amount of time that
[4:20:27] feels appropriate for
[4:20:28] the danger that they feel and
[4:20:28] the protection that they feel
[4:20:32] for their families and their
[4:20:32] neighbors.
[4:20:33] So I also thank you again.
[4:20:38] I also want to give now I want
[4:20:39] to give you credit in your new
[4:20:39] role about being super
[4:20:40] communicative, about the ways
[4:20:44] that our parking revenue is
[4:20:45] being used to make improvements
[4:20:45] And I will give you an
[4:20:49] opportunity at the kind of
[4:20:50] seeing the way that this is
[4:20:50] rolled out if there are any
[4:20:51] ideas you have about the ways
[4:20:56] that we can use that revenue to
[4:20:57] improve street safety and speed
[4:20:57] up the way that we're making
[4:21:02] streets safer.
[4:21:07] Thank you, Councilmember Rivera
[4:21:07] Yes.
[4:21:08] That it's something that we
[4:21:13] could look into utilizing.
[4:21:14] So yes, we can definitely look
[4:21:19] into utilizing speed revenues
[4:21:20] for making some of these safety
[4:21:21] improvements in those areas.
[4:21:21] >> I appreciate that.
[4:21:26] Again, thank you for being
[4:21:26] communicative.
[4:21:27] The work that's been done has
[4:21:28] been pretty remarkable.
[4:21:28] Denver Streetlights fix,
[4:21:29] potholes build.
[4:21:33] I see you are following in that
[4:21:34] these big filling that the big
[4:21:37] shoes that you left behind to
[4:21:38] get work done at a fast rate
[4:21:39] and and make sure that
[4:21:44] the community feels the benefit
[4:21:45] from those investments.
[4:21:45] Thank you again for all work to
[4:21:46] bring this forward.
[4:21:51] I'm glad we're taking this
[4:21:51] step.
[4:21:52] That concludes our comments.
[4:21:53] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[4:21:53] Thank you, Councilmember
[4:21:54] Rivera.
[4:21:54] We'll go next to Councilmember
[4:21:56] Bob Wolpert.
[4:21:57] Thank you and thank you for
[4:21:58] the work on this item.
[4:22:01] It's incredibly important that
[4:22:02] we at least strive towards our
[4:22:03] vision Zero goals making sure
[4:22:08] pedestrians, cyclists, children
[4:22:09] walking to school, children
[4:22:09] walking to parks are safe e from
[4:22:10] collisions.
[4:22:10] So thank you to Councilor
[4:22:14] Whitburn for your leadership
[4:22:15] here I ask most of my questions
[4:22:15] at our committee level and
[4:22:16] active transportation.
[4:22:20] I just want to reiterate that
[4:22:20] we did ask our committee that
[4:22:21] since we are going to
[4:22:26] prioritize school zones when
[4:22:26] lowering speed limits first we
[4:22:27] are working with the school
[4:22:28] districts to coordinate with
[4:22:28] them.
[4:22:32] So I'm glad that we were doing
[4:22:33] that.
[4:22:33] I also want to thank the folks
[4:22:34] who come in you know, circulate
[4:22:35] freely with the bike Coalition.
[4:22:38] We are continual advocacy for
[4:22:38] making our streets safer.
[4:22:39] I'm proud to support this item
[4:22:43] and I know that this is only
[4:22:44] one of many tools we can do to
[4:22:48] make our streets safer On
[4:22:54] DECEMBER 21st, 2025 and I will
[4:22:54] one call set things in motion
[4:22:55] after a pedestrian was hit in
[4:22:59] the crosswalk in the corridor
[4:23:00] neighborhood in the suv who
[4:23:04] struck the pedestrian pulled
[4:23:05] over for a second and then took
[4:23:05] off leaving the victim
[4:23:06] seriously injured in the middle
[4:23:10] of the roadway And it was only
[4:23:11] notified to cpd by one of our
[4:23:11] automated license plate readers
[4:23:16] and the smart streetlight They
[4:23:17] caught the collision on camera
[4:23:17] and notified our pd real time
[4:23:22] They were able to dispatch an
[4:23:22] ambulance to the seriously
[4:23:23] injured pedestrian and because
[4:23:24] of a license plate reader they
[4:23:27] were able to catch the hit and
[4:23:28] run driver who stopped notice
[4:23:28] they had seriously injured
[4:23:33] someone and drove away And
[4:23:34] we've seen this as well with
[4:23:34] fatal collision with bicyclist
[4:23:39] as well catching people who
[4:23:40] have who are murdering people
[4:23:41] on the street and leaving And
[4:23:41] so I just want to take
[4:23:45] circulate and others for
[4:23:46] advocating for the responsible
[4:23:47] use of automated license plate
[4:23:48] reader technology because it is
[4:23:52] saving lives even in this way.
[4:23:53] But I do have a question though
[4:23:53] that I get asked often about
[4:23:54] enforcement of speed limits.
[4:24:01] So I see our sergeant is here.
[4:24:02] I get asked by my my my
[4:24:03] neighbors and folks in my
[4:24:03] district all the time about you
[4:24:07] know, people are speeding down
[4:24:08] residential zones and everybody
[4:24:08] want the speed limit or speed
[4:24:09] bump or a stop sign And it
[4:24:10] breaks my heart because often
[4:24:13] these are our neighbors who are
[4:24:14] speeding through our streets.
[4:24:14] But what can we do about our
[4:24:15] enforcement of these new speed
[4:24:18] limits given the police
[4:24:19] department's serious
[4:24:19] constraints and staffing While
[4:24:25] we continue to accept
[4:24:25] suggestions on where to conduct
[4:24:30] enforcement, we have motorcycle
[4:24:31] officers and traffic officers
[4:24:32] who dedicate a lot of time to
[4:24:32] speed enforcement.
[4:24:36] But as you said we don't have
[4:24:37] the resources for every street
[4:24:37] in the city and every school
[4:24:38] zone.
[4:24:42] We're working on getting
[4:24:43] traffic in place and to get it
[4:24:43] done.
[4:24:44] I think that's something that
[4:24:44] we really need to prioritize
[4:24:49] that will allow you citizens
[4:24:49] anybody to submit
[4:24:50] the complaints just like with
[4:24:55] parking complaints and those
[4:24:55] will go to traffic division and
[4:24:56] our more cycle officers our
[4:24:57] traffic officers will be able
[4:24:58] to pull it up on their on their
[4:25:01] phone If they're in
[4:25:02] Northeastern division they
[4:25:02] could see where the complaints
[4:25:03] are and they could update that
[4:25:07] information to go right back to
[4:25:08] the citizen via email or
[4:25:08] however.
[4:25:13] So we have to prioritize based
[4:25:14] on a crash site that we have
[4:25:15] but really citizen complaints
[4:25:19] of people that know their
[4:25:20] neighborhood where the speeding
[4:25:20] is.
[4:25:21] Okay, Thank you very much.
[4:25:22] I will let our constituents
[4:25:26] know what if I get a dozen
[4:25:26] requests and that we are also
[4:25:27] always working with our school
[4:25:28] district saying hey, do you
[4:25:31] have personnel come out and
[4:25:31] help with crosswalks and
[4:25:32] everything?
[4:25:32] But thank you for being here.
[4:25:33] I appreciate all the work you
[4:25:37] do and I'm proud to support
[4:25:37] this motion.
[4:25:38] All right.
[4:25:38] Thank you.
[4:25:38] Council member.
[4:25:39] We'll go next to Council
[4:25:43] PRESIDENT Pro Tem We thank us
[4:25:43] PRESIDENT And thank you to
[4:25:44] the team for your presentation.
[4:25:47] We of course heard this at 80
[4:25:48] So I think I just want to add
[4:25:49] sort of a pragmatic lens to all
[4:25:49] of this.
[4:25:53] You had mentioned that if this
[4:25:54] were to be implemented in the f
[4:25:59] y 27 period that
[4:25:59] the anticipated need in
[4:26:00] the budget would be about $2.4
[4:26:01] million.
[4:26:01] Correct.
[4:26:04] And I think we're one of
[4:26:05] the states and probably even
[4:26:05] the public recognizes that
[4:26:06] given the budgetary constraints
[4:26:10] that we're facing, I'm going to
[4:26:10] even assume that that is going
[4:26:11] to be a tall order And at
[4:26:16] the end of the day we need to
[4:26:16] actually think about a couple
[4:26:17] of factors.
[4:26:17] And so I want to emphasize
[4:26:21] asking that the department as
[4:26:22] you're looking at the potential
[4:26:22] for implementing work with
[4:26:27] the data that we do have
[4:26:27] recognizing that from a
[4:26:28] capacity standpoint you noted
[4:26:29] that we're not being able to
[4:26:30] make all decisions in-house as
[4:26:34] well and some of that would
[4:26:34] have to be set outside.
[4:26:35] I think depending on what we
[4:26:36] are able to allocate in
[4:26:39] the budget we have a bit of
[4:26:40] data throughout the city that I
[4:26:40] think is actually quite helpful
[4:26:41] as we determine what
[4:26:45] the priorities are.
[4:26:46] Some of that might be from
[4:26:47] traffic reports, some of it
[4:26:47] might be from citizen
[4:26:52] complaints but we also have a
[4:26:52] pretty good sense of the most
[4:26:53] dangerous intersections around
[4:26:54] the city And when you tie that
[4:26:58] to nearby school zones I think
[4:26:59] it gives you a sense of
[4:27:03] corridors where traffic and
[4:27:04] speed can be an issue because I
[4:27:05] think like many of my
[4:27:06] colleagues would echo that We
[4:27:10] all recognize that simply
[4:27:11] changing the number on that
[4:27:11] street won't necessarily slow
[4:27:12] the traffic down.
[4:27:16] It's one step but it's going to
[4:27:17] require additional follow up
[4:27:18] Whether that's other traffic
[4:27:22] calming enforcement etc..
[4:27:22] I had a chance to tour Gov
[4:27:28] Drive with a number of
[4:27:29] residents from the University
[4:27:30] Committee planning group
[4:27:30] recently looking at a quarter
[4:27:34] with a number of schools that
[4:27:34] are on it.
[4:27:35] It's the governor drive itself
[4:27:40] is not necessarily considered a
[4:27:41] school zone but what we see is
[4:27:42] that it is adjacent to multiple
[4:27:43] school zones and that's where
[4:27:46] some of the heaviest speeding
[4:27:46] takes place.
[4:27:47] And I still remember a stretch
[4:27:52] between Regents and Genesee
[4:27:53] where there is a flashing sign
[4:27:59] already that notifies you when
[4:27:59] you're speeding on that street.
[4:28:00] And so it's a very good example
[4:28:01] from residents who say well you
[4:28:05] could change that limit down
[4:28:05] doesn't stop people from
[4:28:06] actually speeding on
[4:28:06] the street.
[4:28:10] So I think having a targeted
[4:28:11] sense of what the priorities
[4:28:11] will be in terms of available
[4:28:12] funding and capacity tying that
[4:28:16] to some of our most dangerous
[4:28:17] intersections corridors and
[4:28:17] again prioritizing for schools
[4:28:23] or adjacency to schools I would
[4:28:23] hope gives us at least some
[4:28:24] sense of where we can start
[4:28:24] given whatever funding
[4:28:29] ultimately gets allocated and
[4:28:29] then hopefully we can go from
[4:28:30] there.
[4:28:30] So thank you.
[4:28:35] Otherwise I'll be supporting
[4:28:36] them.
[4:28:36] All right.
[4:28:36] Thank you.
[4:28:37] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[4:28:38] We'll go next to council member
[4:28:40] Foster Oh yes.
[4:28:41] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And
[4:28:46] thank you for the presentation
[4:28:47] .
[4:28:47] I just really wanted to you
[4:28:48] know, when we heard this I
[4:28:52] didn't previously brought up
[4:28:53] safe routes to school And i
[4:28:54] just want to thank the mayor's
[4:28:59] office, Randi and the staff.
[4:29:00] We had a very what I thought
[4:29:00] was a very productive meeting
[4:29:04] was in a unified school
[4:29:05] district immediately following
[4:29:06] them I want to say it felt like
[4:29:06] it was within days within a
[4:29:10] week and being able to pull
[4:29:11] everyone together to start
[4:29:11] those conversations.
[4:29:12] I just really want to thank you
[4:29:16] for that means a lot to me as
[4:29:17] we are really trying to
[4:29:21] increase safety.
[4:29:22] So thank you for that and that
[4:29:23] concludes my comments.
[4:29:23] All right.
[4:29:23] Thank you.
[4:29:28] Council member Foster Not see
[4:29:29] anybody else on the lights.
[4:29:29] I'll have a few closing
[4:29:34] comments myself to my
[4:29:34] colleagues and thanking all
[4:29:35] the staff at Transportation for
[4:29:35] the work on this.
[4:29:40] This was a pretty significant
[4:29:41] lift in bringing this forward
[4:29:41] and I appreciate the time and
[4:29:42] effort that went into it.
[4:29:45] I appreciate you in
[4:29:46] the commercial districts first
[4:29:47] kind of get the ball rolling
[4:29:48] and then came in to do this
[4:29:48] heavier lift on the remaining
[4:29:52] streets.
[4:29:52] As my colleagues have said, our
[4:29:53] communities are hurting in
[4:29:54] the wake of traffic fatalities.
[4:29:57] We've had three and just in
[4:29:58] 2026 alone, you know, how do
[4:30:03] you explain that to the family
[4:30:03] and to the community?
[4:30:04] One of them the first one we
[4:30:05] actually seem to understand how
[4:30:09] it happened as horrific as it
[4:30:09] was.
[4:30:10] The other two I think are still
[4:30:10] being investigated and we'll
[4:30:15] learn more about that.
[4:30:15] And over the years we've made
[4:30:16] progress towards our vision
[4:30:17] zero goal goals but we know
[4:30:20] there's still a lot more work
[4:30:20] to be done to ensure our
[4:30:21] streets are truly safe for
[4:30:21] everyone.
[4:30:25] Any effort that supports our
[4:30:25] vision zero goals moves us in
[4:30:26] the right direction especially
[4:30:27] given that speed remains a
[4:30:31] leading factor in both fatal
[4:30:32] and serious injury crashes.
[4:30:32] That said, as I think you
[4:30:33] pointed out as my colleagues
[4:30:37] are pointing out, lowering
[4:30:37] speed limits alone is not
[4:30:38] enough to create truly safe
[4:30:43] streets or corridors.
[4:30:44] But these speeds must be paired
[4:30:44] with safety improvements such
[4:30:45] as roundabouts, pedestrian
[4:30:49] refuge islands leading
[4:30:49] pedestrian intervals,
[4:30:50] rectangular rapid flashing
[4:30:51] beacons, hawk systems and more.
[4:30:55] And that's why I appreciate
[4:30:55] the speed management plan takes
[4:30:56] a more comprehensive approach
[4:30:57] by recommending street safety
[4:31:02] improvements along side lower
[4:31:02] speed segments, particularly at
[4:31:03] key safety intersections.
[4:31:06] I also want to recognize your
[4:31:07] willingness to embrace quick
[4:31:08] build projects which allow us
[4:31:09] to make safety improvements
[4:31:13] more efficiently, respond to
[4:31:14] community needs quicker.
[4:31:15] So I look forward to seeing
[4:31:19] this plan come to life.
[4:31:20] Just a couple of comments, a
[4:31:20] couple of which I mentioned at
[4:31:21] the briefing.
[4:31:25] You know there was a lot of
[4:31:26] agony in the public when we
[4:31:27] instituted the day lighting but
[4:31:30] we didn't actually paint
[4:31:31] the curbs around But
[4:31:32] enforcement started when
[4:31:32] the curve was painted red
[4:31:33] because that's what the state
[4:31:36] law said.
[4:31:37] What about reduced speed
[4:31:37] limits?
[4:31:38] Will they be enforced if we
[4:31:42] take action today or with
[4:31:43] the enforcement start only when
[4:31:44] the new signs went up?
[4:31:49] Council PRESIDENT
[4:31:50] The enforcement will start when
[4:31:50] these signs go up.
[4:31:50] Okay great.
[4:31:51] Thank you for stating that on
[4:31:52] the record.
[4:31:55] One of the public haulers
[4:31:55] called in something that we
[4:31:56] didn't really check into
[4:31:57] because it's not entirely
[4:32:00] within our district and that is
[4:32:01] East Mission Bay Drive which I
[4:32:04] believe is currently signed for
[4:32:05] 30 miles an hour and perhaps
[4:32:06] Mission Bay Drive as well.
[4:32:11] That's a very active street.
[4:32:12] It has SROs bicycle use.
[4:32:17] It's also a pretty narrow
[4:32:18] street especially when you have
[4:32:18] roads parked on both sides.
[4:32:19] Given what the plan is in front
[4:32:23] of us today, how do we get a
[4:32:24] consideration of reducing
[4:32:26] the speed limit on East Mason
[4:32:27] and Bay Drive or just even
[4:32:33] Mission Bay Drive?
[4:32:34] >> Council PRESIDENT We can
[4:32:39] still take we can still do
[4:32:40] evaluations as long as
[4:32:40] constituents submit those
[4:32:46] requests for traffic calming we
[4:32:47] could certainly look into to
[4:32:48] see whether hb 43 will also
[4:32:51] apply for that street or that
[4:32:51] corridor.
[4:32:52] So those are still being
[4:32:53] submitted and we do evaluate
[4:32:57] every 7 to 14 years for all
[4:32:58] these streets and that could be
[4:32:59] considered as part of that
[4:33:03] analysis as well.
[4:33:04] Okay.
[4:33:05] That is what might be me but
[4:33:05] I'll go ahead.
[4:33:10] Also occurs to me that a lot of
[4:33:10] that street also has reverse
[4:33:11] parking stalls which you know,
[4:33:15] has its own factor.
[4:33:16] The last thing I'll ask about
[4:33:17] is when I get most recent town
[4:33:21] hall some folks alerted me that
[4:33:22] there is a pilot program in
[4:33:23] the state about speed
[4:33:23] enforcement.
[4:33:26] Maybe this was the governor's
[4:33:27] idea that they measure speed
[4:33:32] enforcement And if you go back
[4:33:33] eight miles per hour over
[4:33:33] the speed limit you just get a
[4:33:34] ticket flat out.
[4:33:39] You know it's not a ticket.
[4:33:39] It's a right to go that fast on
[4:33:40] that street.
[4:33:41] Very clever use of terms as a
[4:33:46] city Looking back on I maybe
[4:33:47] that's a better question.
[4:33:47] We are aware of the state law.
[4:33:50] We have explored it with cpd
[4:33:51] Education Department utilizing
[4:33:52] some of our existing
[4:33:52] technologies like Alpers.
[4:33:56] However, our use policy around
[4:33:57] Alpers prohibits it for only
[4:33:57] for traffic enforcement And so
[4:33:58] you would essentially have to
[4:34:03] explore a different type of
[4:34:03] technology And right now we're
[4:34:04] just not in a position fiscally
[4:34:05] to be able to do that.
[4:34:05] Okay.
[4:34:09] The state didn't bring any
[4:34:10] money in with that new law
[4:34:10] Unfortunately not as I
[4:34:11] suspected.
[4:34:14] But I'm glad.
[4:34:15] Thank you.
[4:34:15] At least we know that you
[4:34:16] looked into it.
[4:34:20] We'll see how future budgets go
[4:34:20] .
[4:34:21] I'll be supporting the motion
[4:34:21] as well.
[4:34:22] Again, thank you all for your
[4:34:27] very, very good work on this.
[4:34:28] So we have a motion by
[4:34:28] Councilmember Whipper in
[4:34:29] the second by council member
[4:34:29] come to you Please call
[4:34:37] the roll Please cast your vote
[4:34:38] And that passes unanimously 8
[4:34:39] to 0 with Councilmember Moreno
[4:34:39] absent.
[4:34:40] Thank you.
[4:34:44] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:34:45] All right.
[4:34:45] Thank you.
[4:34:46] Thanks for coming out.
[4:34:46] Thank you everybody in
[4:34:47] transportation for bringing
[4:34:49] this item forward and to
[4:34:50] the mayor's office as well.
[4:34:51] With that we're not quite done.
[4:34:52] We'll take up non agenda public
[4:34:56] comment.
[4:34:57] Council members respect and
[4:34:57] appreciate the public's input
[4:34:58] and are fully committed to
[4:34:59] protecting every participant's
[4:35:02] free speech rights at council
[4:35:03] and committee meetings.
[4:35:04] Clerk Please proceed with
[4:35:04] public comment.
[4:35:04] Thank you.
[4:35:08] Council PRESIDENT Proposal 2.7
[4:35:08] on public comment is an
[4:35:09] opportunity for members of
[4:35:10] the public to comment on items
[4:35:13] that are not on the agenda but
[4:35:14] within the subject matter
[4:35:15] jurisdiction of the City
[4:35:15] Council.
[4:35:16] Each speaker will have two
[4:35:16] minutes.
[4:35:19] Please note if there are eight
[4:35:19] or more speakers on a single
[4:35:20] topic the maximum time for
[4:35:21] the topic will be 60 Minutes.
[4:35:26] If you're in chambers please
[4:35:27] email your speakers up now and
[4:35:28] if you're joining us virtually
[4:35:28] please is your hand to speak by
[4:35:29] tapping the raise your hand
[4:35:31] icon or if you're calling
[4:35:31] participant Star nine.
[4:35:32] Scott Chipman, are you there?
[4:35:33] I don't see Scott Chipman
[4:35:37] Kathleen Lippert I don't see
[4:35:38] you're here in chambers where
[4:35:38] we come in.
[4:35:43] If you can please come forward
[4:35:44] And I'm sorry we do have a new
[4:35:44] speaker So Anthony rooms for
[4:35:49] the roles of councils If you
[4:35:50] have not spoken before you're
[4:35:50] supposed to be going first.
[4:35:51] So we're going to take a seat
[4:35:52] and Anthony Ross, please come
[4:35:58] forward.
[4:35:58] You'll have two minutes.
[4:35:59] Please proceed.
[4:35:59] Thank you.
[4:35:59] How you doing?
[4:36:00] The council.
[4:36:04] I wanted to start by asking
[4:36:05] Council member Rebel you to
[4:36:05] please show us your
[4:36:09] constituents and the people of
[4:36:10] San Diego more respect by being
[4:36:11] more present when you're here
[4:36:11] in the council chambers.
[4:36:16] I've noticed at least three
[4:36:16] times that I've come on
[4:36:17] occasion this year that you
[4:36:18] haven't been present And one
[4:36:21] time you were on a Zoom meeting
[4:36:22] and there's nothing wrong with
[4:36:22] being on a Zoom meeting but
[4:36:23] when you are here I would ask
[4:36:24] that you please be present in
[4:36:27] the council chambers especially
[4:36:28] considering that I've read that
[4:36:29] you are interested in running
[4:36:29] for mayor.
[4:36:33] So if that is the case that
[4:36:34] will require even more
[4:36:34] responsibility And therefore I
[4:36:39] would ask that you again do
[4:36:39] what your constituent Bob has
[4:36:40] asked and show us in the city
[4:36:40] more respect.
[4:36:45] With that said, I want to move
[4:36:46] on to why I was here today
[4:36:51] which is to talk about security
[4:36:51] cameras, lpr license plate
[4:36:52] readers.
[4:36:52] I particularly wanted to
[4:36:57] address when I was here to
[4:36:58] mention last week I'm not sure
[4:36:59] if you all have had a chance to
[4:37:00] follow up on Operation Road
[4:37:03] Clear which is the report which
[4:37:04] was unveiled at the court
[4:37:09] hearing of my friend Jean Wong
[4:37:09] last week And during that trial
[4:37:14] it was revealed that the dea
[4:37:15] the Department of Homeland
[4:37:15] Investigations and
[4:37:16] the Department of Homeland
[4:37:17] Security as well as ice have
[4:37:20] all colluded to utilize flex
[4:37:21] surveillance technology which I
[4:37:22] was in this council three
[4:37:26] months ago And I heard that
[4:37:26] the police chief I heard him
[4:37:27] make the promise to this
[4:37:28] council that Floc would not be
[4:37:32] utilized to collaborate with
[4:37:32] any of those departments
[4:37:33] outside of cpd and within four
[4:37:34] months time they've already
[4:37:37] broken that promise.
[4:37:38] So I'm asking you all to please
[4:37:39] reconsider Floc technology if
[4:37:43] it was a different company that
[4:37:44] wasn't funded by billionaire
[4:37:51] founder or Deal then I probably
[4:37:51] wouldn't be here having this
[4:37:52] discussion.
[4:37:52] But the fact that it came from
[4:37:56] him means that it is not
[4:37:56] created by somebody with good
[4:37:57] intentions.
[4:37:57] There are other alternative
[4:38:02] aopa all hail hail pr providers
[4:38:02] Please explore them.
[4:38:03] Thank you for that.
[4:38:07] Concluding comment.
[4:38:08] >> Next is Blair Beekman.
[4:38:08] After that will be Bob because
[4:38:12] this came.
[4:38:13] Right.
[4:38:13] Thank you.
[4:38:19] Let me thank you for allowing
[4:38:20] the previous public speaker to
[4:38:20] go first.
[4:38:21] He's a better speaker than
[4:38:25] myself And it's it's a good
[4:38:25] tone to talk about things I can
[4:38:26] better add to this way.
[4:38:27] Thank you.
[4:38:30] Thanks for the meeting today.
[4:38:30] Yeah.
[4:38:34] From his words there are two
[4:38:35] state Democrat Democratic Party
[4:38:40] leaders who have they will not
[4:38:40] be taking money from Clark for
[4:38:45] their campaign endorsements
[4:38:45] this year.
[4:38:46] It was it was offered at a time
[4:38:51] when we are talking about how
[4:38:51] do we deal with our lives in
[4:38:57] this new situation of war and
[4:38:57] these two California state
[4:38:58] representatives.
[4:39:02] I can't you know, very possibly
[4:39:03] Democratic Party leaders at
[4:39:03] the state level.
[4:39:08] They've made the public
[4:39:08] decision.
[4:39:09] They don't have the need
[4:39:10] the money from block to go on
[4:39:10] with their campaigns was I
[4:39:14] think very much signals.
[4:39:14] What I've been trying to
[4:39:15] suggest here is how do we talk
[4:39:19] to each other about our best
[4:39:20] practices?
[4:39:20] We don't have to involve
[4:39:21] ourselves in war to do that.
[4:39:26] Councilperson Brian Wolpert
[4:39:27] offered great questions to
[4:39:27] the police chief today.
[4:39:31] I felt I just really needed
[4:39:32] decent, well reasoned questions
[4:39:37] and if those are the terms we
[4:39:38] work here at the public comment
[4:39:39] are in our city council
[4:39:42] meetings that's that's our good
[4:39:43] stuff That's that's building
[4:39:44] you know, better visioning
[4:39:48] sustainability and peace and
[4:39:48] not war.
[4:39:49] When you see those war things
[4:39:54] come up we have to be wary of
[4:39:55] this time and good steps we're
[4:39:55] taking here to do what I can
[4:39:56] see we can be doing.
[4:40:00] Thank you immensely.
[4:40:05] Yeah I just have so much more
[4:40:06] to say that I have not seen And
[4:40:07] I've got nine seconds left.
[4:40:12] Good luck.
[4:40:13] Vision Zero is a community
[4:40:14] effort are good ideas can be a
[4:40:18] for community up better Thank
[4:40:19] you thank you Bob please keep
[4:40:32] please play my video for Bob
[4:40:33] because this here you're
[4:40:34] watching one of the most
[4:40:36] important videos from my two
[4:40:37] and a half decades of city
[4:40:37] council speeches.
[4:40:38] This video is a mostly
[4:40:42] accelerated clip from the city
[4:40:42] Council meeting of DECEMBER
[4:40:43] 7th, 2010.
[4:40:43] During that speech I was
[4:40:44] describing it beautiful hang
[4:40:47] gliding flight from
[4:40:48] the previous weekend.
[4:40:49] I went on to describe
[4:40:49] the special nature of
[4:40:50] the glider port and
[4:40:53] the mismanagement of that site.
[4:40:54] I pointed out the many problems
[4:40:55] with the commercialization of
[4:40:55] our parks and the settlement
[4:40:58] agreement that had established
[4:40:59] the Torrey Pines City Park
[4:40:59] Advisory Board.
[4:41:00] But this video isn't so
[4:41:04] important for anything I had
[4:41:04] said.
[4:41:05] It's pretty much the same
[4:41:05] things I've been saying for
[4:41:06] nearly two decades.
[4:41:09] What makes this video so
[4:41:10] important is what the newly
[4:41:10] elected COUNCILWOMAN Morris
[4:41:15] said and how her senior
[4:41:16] colleague Sherrie Lightner
[4:41:17] tried to shut her down.
[4:41:17] Lori Zeff had been elected to
[4:41:20] the San Diego City Council
[4:41:20] during the NOVEMBER 2010
[4:41:21] election.
[4:41:23] This video was from DECEMBER
[4:41:24] 7th, just about a month after
[4:41:25] she was elected.
[4:41:28] This would likely have been one
[4:41:29] of the first times that Lori
[4:41:30] Zeff had ever heard one of my
[4:41:30] glider port speeches.
[4:41:34] Let's listen to how innocently
[4:41:34] and enthusiastically Morris
[4:41:35] reacted to my speech and how
[4:41:40] quickly Sherrie Lightner shut
[4:41:40] her down.
[4:41:41] And those are beautiful
[4:41:41] pictures for that two hour
[4:41:42] mayor's office.
[4:41:45] And we'll find out more about
[4:41:50] that David Ross and then Marc
[4:41:51] Lynch shield so she won't MISS
[4:41:55] Out.
[4:41:56] >> I just wanted to make a
[4:41:56] quick comment on the Torrey
[4:42:01] Pines glider report.
[4:42:01] I really have an interest in
[4:42:02] that.
[4:42:02] My husband has similar
[4:42:03] pictures.
[4:42:06] He was a hang glider pilot
[4:42:06] there for many years, took
[4:42:10] tours up and in 1995 I was his
[4:42:11] very last passenger or as he
[4:42:12] called him victims had a
[4:42:15] wonderful flight up there.
[4:42:16] So really this is something
[4:42:17] that is an issue that I be
[4:42:22] interested in.
[4:42:22] >> All right.
[4:42:23] Well, I think that that's great
[4:42:24] because Well and also the issue
[4:42:27] is well in hand and our office
[4:42:27] would be delighted to talk with
[4:42:31] your office about this issue.
[4:42:31] >> But go.
[4:42:36] All right.
[4:42:36] Thank you.
[4:42:37] That does not agenda public
[4:42:41] comment here in council
[4:42:42] chambers.
[4:42:42] I've started the five minute
[4:42:43] timer going to those
[4:42:43] participating remotely.
[4:42:47] We do have speakers that have
[4:42:51] not spoken as of last week
[4:42:51] starting with Harry.
[4:42:56] If you can please unmute.
[4:42:56] Good afternoon.
[4:42:57] Good evening.
[4:42:57] Since we're here already I
[4:43:01] would join to say that we could
[4:43:02] manage San Diego budget.
[4:43:06] We do not have unsolvable
[4:43:07] budget problems.
[4:43:07] The problem is that
[4:43:08] the government is sending
[4:43:13] billions of dollars every day
[4:43:13] to bomb holes, not build them.
[4:43:16] We're sending billions of
[4:43:17] dollars to bomb schools, not
[4:43:18] build them.
[4:43:18] So if our federal partners
[4:43:23] would work more closely with
[4:43:23] the city, we can invest our tax
[4:43:28] money here to fix our roads and
[4:43:28] build homes.
[4:43:29] So until then it's better not
[4:43:33] to have that orange here.
[4:43:34] Pedro Epstein, leader on
[4:43:34] the wall there in the chamber.
[4:43:38] Thank you.
[4:43:38] Thank you.
[4:43:39] Next we have Francine Maxwell.
[4:43:46] If you can please unmute
[4:43:47] Francine Maxwell, Southeastern
[4:43:47] San Diego resident I want to
[4:43:51] thank you for the presentation
[4:43:52] as it pertained to sd pd.
[4:43:56] Wonderful press event this past
[4:43:57] week that was shown.
[4:44:02] But I'm concerned that this
[4:44:02] council chooses not to dig
[4:44:03] deeper.
[4:44:06] You don't ask him why There's
[4:44:07] only three Caucasian women that
[4:44:08] are at the rank of captain.
[4:44:11] You don't ask him why
[4:44:11] the highest ranking
[4:44:12] African-American female is a
[4:44:12] detective.
[4:44:16] You're not asking the question
[4:44:17] to make sure that as one of
[4:44:22] the safest biggest cities we're
[4:44:22] diverse.
[4:44:23] Although dni is not a nice word
[4:44:26] to use anymore under this
[4:44:27] administration, it still needs
[4:44:31] to be asked what is going on
[4:44:32] with the bipoc to make our
[4:44:37] community to reflect the police
[4:44:37] department.
[4:44:38] There is not an intentionality.
[4:44:42] There is no females on
[4:44:42] the seventh floor.
[4:44:45] If you don't get another view
[4:44:46] on the seventh floor then it
[4:44:47] lends to skewing.
[4:44:51] Yes people again our officers
[4:44:51] need more.
[4:44:55] They need more wellness built
[4:44:56] in So appreciative of
[4:45:00] the wellness moving from a
[4:45:01] floor that it was on that was
[4:45:01] higher to one of the lowest
[4:45:05] floors so you could slip in.
[4:45:06] If you feel that you don't want
[4:45:06] to be seen again.
[4:45:11] Ask harder questions Bolder
[4:45:11] questions.
[4:45:15] We appreciate every man and
[4:45:16] woman that runs to danger.
[4:45:16] We appreciate the dispatchers
[4:45:20] that answer the calls in
[4:45:20] the midnight hour and on
[4:45:21] the phone.
[4:45:21] But this council you're paid
[4:45:25] like judges so you can throw
[4:45:25] some strikes.
[4:45:26] You don't have to constantly
[4:45:30] softball.
[4:45:30] And those that continue to have
[4:45:31] private meetings with Chief
[4:45:35] Wall why is it that some of
[4:45:35] that information can't be
[4:45:36] shared?
[4:45:36] We have local papers.
[4:45:39] The voice and viewpoint,
[4:45:40] the press, the Indian voices
[4:45:44] use our media mandate records
[4:45:45] dod one radio.
[4:45:45] All of you guys got
[4:45:46] newsletters.
[4:45:50] More information.
[4:45:50] >> More transparency.
[4:45:51] Your time has concluded and
[4:45:52] access Christine Wilburn if you
[4:45:55] can please unmute.
[4:45:55] >> Hi, this is Christine
[4:45:59] Wellborn.
[4:46:00] You know I watch these meetings
[4:46:01] all the time and I can't think
[4:46:04] of the last one where council
[4:46:09] member Shawn Rivera didn't bash
[4:46:09] Trump and say something nasty
[4:46:10] and doesn't the city of San
[4:46:14] Diego have an established code
[4:46:19] of conduct or civility policies
[4:46:19] ,decorum rules, professional
[4:46:20] ethics?
[4:46:20] It's really sad.
[4:46:24] It would be nice to have a
[4:46:24] nonpartisan focus rather than,
[4:46:28] you know, have all this
[4:46:29] divisive rhetoric and hateful
[4:46:29] hateful words.
[4:46:33] I don't like it when our
[4:46:33] PRESIDENT Does it.
[4:46:34] It makes me sick and I don't
[4:46:35] like seeing it at the local
[4:46:35] level.
[4:46:38] And I would just really
[4:46:39] appreciate it if it would be
[4:46:39] tone down, you know, calling
[4:46:42] people fascist pigs and
[4:46:43] everything else.
[4:46:43] It's just not okay.
[4:46:47] So I would appreciate it if you
[4:46:48] would please pay attention to
[4:46:49] that and try to tone it down.
[4:46:52] Thank you.
[4:46:53] >> Have a nice night.
[4:46:57] Our next speaker is a Zoom user
[4:47:02] If you can please unmute extra
[4:47:02] .
[4:47:03] Thanks for taking my call.
[4:47:03] Hey it's cool.
[4:47:04] Haters got to hate man.
[4:47:07] That's what it is.
[4:47:08] We need some diversity on city
[4:47:09] council like a couple of maga
[4:47:12] hats.
[4:47:13] That's what we really need.
[4:47:14] You guys you talking diversity,
[4:47:16] diversity, diversity.
[4:47:17] Where's the maga?
[4:47:17] Come on, man.
[4:47:18] Couple of straight white boys
[4:47:22] up there telling you the truth
[4:47:22] anyway.
[4:47:23] Hey, we know what I'm talking
[4:47:26] about.
[4:47:26] Ice raids.
[4:47:27] When I shows up when Trump is
[4:47:31] done with taking over Cuba,
[4:47:32] he's doing that to the Orange
[4:47:32] fans going after Cuba.
[4:47:37] They're ready to surrender.
[4:47:38] If you turn our attention here,
[4:47:39] he's going to come out as have
[4:47:42] you all investigations and
[4:47:43] the ice raids And we've got to
[4:47:47] have the police department
[4:47:47] protect the protesters.
[4:47:51] I don't want the protesters to
[4:47:52] get hurt.
[4:47:53] You know, that's why with ice.
[4:47:56] So establish a speed limit If
[4:47:57] you're responding to an ice
[4:48:00] raid, you can't go over 50
[4:48:01] miles an hour to get there.
[4:48:05] Just for their safety And don't
[4:48:05] point your car.
[4:48:06] You have some training.
[4:48:10] They don't point your car at an
[4:48:11] ice agent and hit the gas
[4:48:11] because you're going to get
[4:48:14] shot.
[4:48:15] And then try not to kick
[4:48:15] the car.
[4:48:16] Don't throw any pipe bombs like
[4:48:20] those to Muslim guys did.
[4:48:24] Don't make your own pipe bomb
[4:48:25] and throw them around.
[4:48:26] That'd be a good thing not to
[4:48:26] do.
[4:48:29] And then we have the Marine
[4:48:30] Corps protect the ice agents
[4:48:33] and then the police department
[4:48:34] can respond just to protect
[4:48:39] the protesters from themselves
[4:48:39] .
[4:48:40] And you might want to tell that
[4:48:40] one girl that took over
[4:48:44] the mayor's office with
[4:48:45] the blue hair man, she's pretty
[4:48:45] angry.
[4:48:49] She even broke the law when she
[4:48:49] was on probation.
[4:48:50] You might want to put a check
[4:48:51] on her somewhere.
[4:48:53] I know you guys probably know
[4:48:54] her, but she's she's getting
[4:48:54] pushing the envelope there.
[4:48:58] Have a good day, guys.
[4:48:59] Thank you.
[4:48:59] Next is Peggy Walker.
[4:49:03] If you can please unmute.
[4:49:08] Good evening Council.
[4:49:12] Sorry In item 200 it was
[4:49:13] mentioned that drugs are a
[4:49:13] number one crime against
[4:49:16] society in our city and in that
[4:49:17] context So it's important that
[4:49:18] last week it was reported that
[4:49:21] more than 100 pounds of
[4:49:26] suspected illegal intoxicating
[4:49:27] products were seized during a
[4:49:28] crackdown on unlawful drug
[4:49:31] sales at four vape and smoke
[4:49:32] shops in the single city of
[4:49:33] Oceanside.
[4:49:36] I bring this here because
[4:49:37] the Oceanside operation
[4:49:41] highlights the fact that
[4:49:41] underscored by local
[4:49:42] assessments these illegal and
[4:49:46] toxic eating products are
[4:49:47] increasingly sold in smoke vape
[4:49:51] and convenience stores in San
[4:49:51] Diego and across our region.
[4:49:55] The seized items included
[4:49:56] vaping devices and products
[4:50:00] containing unregulated
[4:50:00] substances such as Kratom,
[4:50:06] psilocybin and thc.
[4:50:07] According to law enforcement
[4:50:07] involved in this seizure in
[4:50:11] the seizure, those locations
[4:50:12] police, the Sheriff's office,
[4:50:12] dea and Naval Criminal
[4:50:16] Investigative Service.
[4:50:17] These intoxicating products are
[4:50:21] often mislabeled.
[4:50:21] A dea spokesman warned that
[4:50:24] vaping devices popular among
[4:50:25] young people pose a growing
[4:50:26] public safety concern, noting
[4:50:30] consumer shows often have no
[4:50:31] idea what these substances MAY
[4:50:31] contain.
[4:50:36] These products that are
[4:50:36] mislabeled.
[4:50:37] Law enforcement has been
[4:50:40] warning about the risk of these
[4:50:41] uncontrolled mislabeled
[4:50:41] products many marketed and
[4:50:46] packages to pop to you And I
[4:50:46] urge you to encourage similar
[4:50:50] vigilance and work with law
[4:50:54] enforcement to ensure that
[4:50:55] unauthorized drug products are
[4:50:56] not sold in our city.
[4:50:56] Thank you.
[4:51:00] Thank you.
[4:51:01] The five minute timer has
[4:51:01] concluded and no additional
[4:51:02] speakers will be taken that do
[4:51:03] not have their hand raised.
[4:51:05] We have eight speakers and
[4:51:06] again like I said, no
[4:51:06] additional speakers will be
[4:51:07] taken.
[4:51:07] Judy Strang if you can please
[4:51:11] unmute.
[4:51:12] >> Good evening City Council
[4:51:17] Thank you for this opportunity
[4:51:17] to share my thoughts.
[4:51:18] I appreciated the information
[4:51:21] about the lowering of speed
[4:51:25] limits and the respect for
[4:51:26] human life that that seems to
[4:51:26] indicate.
[4:51:30] I also wanted to share with you
[4:51:31] that one of our most important
[4:51:35] nation wide groups regarding
[4:51:36] tobacco use prevention for
[4:51:40] young people called the truth
[4:51:41] Initiative indicated that eight
[4:51:45] of the ten films nominated for
[4:51:46] Best Picture did quite a
[4:51:46] depiction of cigaret and
[4:51:49] nicotine products in their
[4:51:50] movies indicating that it was
[4:51:54] cool somehow or another.
[4:51:55] This gets to be important to us
[4:51:59] who work in prevention and with
[4:52:00] young people because we know
[4:52:04] that nicotine products used for
[4:52:08] 12th graders increased from 17%
[4:52:08] to 22% just in the last year
[4:52:09] 2024, 2025.
[4:52:13] The trouble with that type of
[4:52:14] imagery that happened within
[4:52:17] these movies is that it makes
[4:52:18] it difficult for those who are
[4:52:19] trying to quit to quit
[4:52:22] successfully as one would
[4:52:22] guess.
[4:52:23] But it also suggests to our
[4:52:27] young people that the adult
[4:52:28] world is okay with it.
[4:52:31] I just like to point out how
[4:52:32] important it is what our adult
[4:52:33] population signals to young
[4:52:37] people has value and to look
[4:52:38] carefully at decisions we make
[4:52:42] regarding tobacco, marijuana
[4:52:42] and alcohol use that indicates
[4:52:46] to young adults that this use
[4:52:47] does not have consequences when
[4:52:51] we so clearly know as adults
[4:52:52] that it does.
[4:52:52] >> Thank you.
[4:52:56] Thank you.
[4:52:57] Next is the original if you can
[4:52:57] please.
[4:53:01] And you.
[4:53:02] Yeah of course This is going to
[4:53:02] come down the pike to be used
[4:53:05] for enforcement.
[4:53:06] It's already being used in
[4:53:06] other countries and you guys
[4:53:10] are in lockstep with the United
[4:53:11] Nations so you're going to
[4:53:11] change your policies or
[4:53:15] whatever in order to be able to
[4:53:16] do that.
[4:53:16] It's going to even keep people
[4:53:19] out of say low emission zones
[4:53:20] or whatever.
[4:53:20] And it's interesting to hear
[4:53:21] you guys talk about public
[4:53:24] safety and really wanting to
[4:53:25] make sure that people don't die
[4:53:25] or get hurt.
[4:53:29] But then I wonder why you
[4:53:30] didn't act when there were
[4:53:31] times that you could have like
[4:53:34] Steven Weber Why were you
[4:53:35] laughing at me when I'm telling
[4:53:35] you about a woman that died and
[4:53:38] all the other people who have
[4:53:43] died at Tent City or been raped
[4:53:43] ?
[4:53:48] Champa Why did you not care
[4:53:48] about the little five year old
[4:53:49] who was raped in her own
[4:53:53] bedroom by an illegal alien?
[4:53:53] I know it's because it's an
[4:53:54] illegal that did it but I'm
[4:53:57] just wondering would it matter
[4:53:58] to you if it was your child who
[4:54:02] whose bedroom had been entered
[4:54:03] into and your child was raped?
[4:54:04] Would it matter then?
[4:54:04] Probably.
[4:54:07] And then Arabella McCormick
[4:54:07] it's like you guys think
[4:54:08] spending $30 million makes it
[4:54:12] better that she died and was 48
[4:54:12] pounds and everybody neglected
[4:54:17] to act on her behalf?
[4:54:18] You know there's so many things
[4:54:22] Then you guys support pedophile
[4:54:22] like you guys are supporting
[4:54:23] Scott Wiener all the time.
[4:54:26] He has sex with children.
[4:54:27] Then we sit here and we talk
[4:54:27] about anti-Semitic stuff and
[4:54:28] it's like you guys support
[4:54:31] people whose Talmud or their
[4:54:32] Bible talks about children
[4:54:35] having sex with children and
[4:54:36] then also the penises of
[4:54:37] children who have been
[4:54:40] circumcised.
[4:54:41] Many children have died from
[4:54:42] that in fact from getting
[4:54:42] herpes.
[4:54:43] And then you guys encourage
[4:54:46] children to mutilate their
[4:54:47] bodies and actually toxic by
[4:54:51] their bodies with hormones that
[4:54:51] should not don't belong in
[4:54:52] their bodies because you
[4:54:56] encourage that And then also
[4:54:56] like sexualization of children
[4:54:57] in school and like reading
[4:55:01] books that are like
[4:55:01] pornographic.
[4:55:02] So I'm just wondering if you're
[4:55:03] going to care about those
[4:55:05] things too.
[4:55:06] >> Our next speaker is Barbara
[4:55:06] Gordon.
[4:55:10] Good evening.
[4:55:11] I am a public health advocate
[4:55:12] with so many needs in this city
[4:55:15] and with budget shortages I
[4:55:16] respectfully request the city
[4:55:20] not implement the seed program.
[4:55:21] The seed program is not
[4:55:24] sustainable long term without
[4:55:25] impacting the already strained
[4:55:25] city resources.
[4:55:30] San Diego already has 38
[4:55:31] marijuana businesses.
[4:55:34] Why are we looking to expand
[4:55:35] the number of these businesses
[4:55:36] in the name of social equity as
[4:55:39] the city struggles with
[4:55:40] homelessness?
[4:55:41] Many peer review studies show
[4:55:44] that marijuana use contributes
[4:55:45] to drug abuse and addiction
[4:55:48] which are the leading cause of
[4:55:49] homelessness.
[4:55:49] The latest 2024 national survey
[4:55:54] on drug use and help estimates
[4:55:58] 32% of the 64 million passed
[4:56:01] year marijuana users 12 years
[4:56:02] and older in America have
[4:56:02] cannabis use disorder.
[4:56:06] That number of Americans
[4:56:10] addicted to marijuana comes to
[4:56:10] over 20 million people.
[4:56:11] The profit driven marijuana
[4:56:15] industry continues to produce
[4:56:16] and promote stronger products
[4:56:20] that are addicting Millions and
[4:56:20] distract, distracting and
[4:56:21] disturbing their lives.
[4:56:25] Marijuana use linked to
[4:56:26] doubling the risk of psychosis
[4:56:26] bipolar disorder.
[4:56:30] This is all published in
[4:56:31] the Journal of American Medical
[4:56:31] Health Forum.
[4:56:34] I urge the Council to not
[4:56:35] prioritize this industry over
[4:56:39] the many needs of the city.
[4:56:40] Your focus and responsibility
[4:56:43] is public health and safety.
[4:56:44] Not advocating for more
[4:56:45] marijuana businesses in our
[4:56:49] city.
[4:56:50] >> Thank you for letting me
[4:56:50] speak.
[4:56:50] Thank you.
[4:56:51] Next is Ernie Castro.
[4:56:56] If you can please unmute.
[4:56:56] >> Hello.
[4:56:57] Ernie Castro, La Hoya resident
[4:57:01] Torrey Pines Glider Park.
[4:57:02] It is illegal for anyone
[4:57:06] including your leaseholder to
[4:57:07] turn our freedom into an access
[4:57:07] pass and a waiver for a license
[4:57:08] and a fee.
[4:57:11] What city liabilities are
[4:57:12] already covered by California
[4:57:15] recreational laws?
[4:57:16] This is insurance fraud and
[4:57:17] misappropriation of public
[4:57:17] funding.
[4:57:20] Going into private accounts
[4:57:20] which demands a full
[4:57:21] transparent city audit that
[4:57:26] would end corruption within
[4:57:26] Torrey Pines Sky Report.
[4:57:27] We have a unanimous letter of
[4:57:30] support from La Hoya Town
[4:57:31] Council and La Hoya Shore's
[4:57:35] Association to permanently
[4:57:35] reconvene the Torrey Pines
[4:57:36] Advisory Board But the Torrey
[4:57:40] Pines Advisory Board
[4:57:40] historically allowed this to
[4:57:41] continue.
[4:57:41] It is irresponsible for City
[4:57:45] council to put Torrey Pines
[4:57:46] glider part in the hands of
[4:57:50] the advisory board That doesn't
[4:57:51] even exist anymore.
[4:57:54] It is City Council's job first
[4:57:54] to stop the crime and then
[4:57:55] reconvene the advisory board.
[4:57:59] You have a proving working
[4:57:59] solution known as the San Diego
[4:58:03] Recreational waiver that
[4:58:04] legally curiosity liability is
[4:58:08] isolated safety concerns and
[4:58:09] restores recreational freedoms
[4:58:10] back to normal.
[4:58:13] The San Diego Recreation waiver
[4:58:14] stops the illegal collection of
[4:58:15] funds going into private
[4:58:19] accounts by separating the city
[4:58:19] business from normal public
[4:58:23] free access yet allow
[4:58:24] the business to start paying
[4:58:25] their own bills operating like
[4:58:28] every other business in parks
[4:58:29] and lands.
[4:58:29] It breaks the ongoing
[4:58:34] corruption at the glory of port
[4:58:34] management.
[4:58:35] Police reports provide justice
[4:58:38] for victims and witnesses.
[4:58:39] There are common business laws
[4:58:43] to protect the public on how
[4:58:44] businesses should be run in
[4:58:44] public parks and lands.
[4:58:48] It's a win for city council
[4:58:48] liabilities.
[4:58:52] It is in common contract laws
[4:58:52] that legally restores our
[4:58:53] recreational rights and years
[4:58:57] for for years to come.
[4:58:58] >> Thank you.
[4:58:59] Madison If you can please
[4:59:02] unmute after that will be done.
[4:59:06] Madison please email.
[4:59:06] >> Hi.
[4:59:07] Good evening City Council
[4:59:07] members.
[4:59:10] I have three young children.
[4:59:11] I often think about how much
[4:59:12] care goes into protecting a
[4:59:15] baby before that child is even
[4:59:15] born.
[4:59:16] Pregnant women are told to
[4:59:19] watch what they eat, what
[4:59:20] medications they take and what
[4:59:21] substances they avoid because
[4:59:25] those early months matter So
[4:59:26] much for a child's development.
[4:59:26] This is why I think it's
[4:59:30] important to pay attention to
[4:59:31] what the medical community is
[4:59:31] saying about cannabis use
[4:59:32] during pregnancy.
[4:59:35] In OCTOBER 2025 the American
[4:59:36] College of Obstetricians and
[4:59:40] Gynecologists updated its
[4:59:41] clinical guidance and stated
[4:59:41] that cannabis use during
[4:59:44] pregnancy has been associated
[4:59:45] with serious risks including
[4:59:49] spontaneous preterm birth, low
[4:59:50] birth weight and developmental
[4:59:50] delay.
[4:59:54] As marijuana becomes more
[4:59:54] socially accepted and
[4:59:58] normalized and easier to access
[4:59:59] ,many women MAY assume it is
[5:00:00] harmless because it is often
[5:00:04] described as a natural or even
[5:00:04] promoted as a way to help with
[5:00:05] stress or nausea.
[5:00:09] But doctors are very clear that
[5:00:09] there are no medical
[5:00:10] indications for cannabis use
[5:00:13] during pregnancy or during
[5:00:14] the postpartum period.
[5:00:17] Thc crosses the placenta
[5:00:18] meaning a developing baby is
[5:00:19] exposed during critical stages
[5:00:22] of growth when the brain and
[5:00:23] body are especially vulnerable.
[5:00:27] Mothers deserve honest
[5:00:27] information.
[5:00:28] If we are serious about
[5:00:29] protecting maternal and child
[5:00:32] health then public policy
[5:00:33] should reflect the medical
[5:00:33] evidence showing prenatal
[5:00:37] cannabis use is dangerous.
[5:00:37] Not the marketing narrative.
[5:00:41] Thank you.
[5:00:42] >> Thank you.
[5:00:42] Thank you.
[5:00:47] On the stump and then at 8700
[5:00:48] and our last speaker is Becky
[5:00:48] Rupp.
[5:00:50] >> Thank you very much.
[5:00:56] And I watched and participated
[5:01:01] in the appeal and I am too old
[5:01:05] to that appeal occurred because
[5:01:06] someone file one sheet of paper
[5:01:09] and paid $2,000 and they
[5:01:14] delayed the decision by some
[5:01:14] five months.
[5:01:18] And it's not over yet.
[5:01:22] Now the city staff has issued a
[5:01:23] notice of determination that
[5:01:28] exam aims dangerous activities
[5:01:33] within Los Dose Preserve.
[5:01:34] They're going to allow
[5:01:37] the conversion of the parking
[5:01:38] lot into a new use as a
[5:01:42] heliport.
[5:01:43] They don't tell us they keeping
[5:01:47] secret how many flights in and
[5:01:48] out they're going to be or what
[5:01:48] routes they're going to take.
[5:01:52] I can assure you that the noise
[5:01:53] and downdraft of helicopter
[5:01:57] flights affects birds and other
[5:01:58] animals particularly during
[5:02:02] the planned nesting season.
[5:02:03] Please council have them
[5:02:07] withdraw that notice of
[5:02:12] determination and begin to work
[5:02:13] on it because otherwise we're
[5:02:16] delaying a project which is
[5:02:17] important and I support because
[5:02:21] they didn't do the right
[5:02:22] environmental analysis.
[5:02:22] They didn't look at
[5:02:26] the literature and they don't
[5:02:27] know are keeping secret how
[5:02:31] many flights and what
[5:02:31] the flight path is going to be
[5:02:36] for sd g And these helicopters
[5:02:37] through the logs and
[5:02:40] the skeeters preserve that is
[5:02:41] an environmentally sensitive
[5:02:45] area and they have taken an
[5:02:46] exemption for a parking lot not
[5:02:46] a sensitive area.
[5:02:49] Please help them withdraw it.
[5:02:54] >> Thank you.
[5:02:55] >> It is 700 if you can please
[5:02:55] unmute.
[5:03:03] After that we pick you up.
[5:03:07] Thank you Joyce And the other
[5:03:07] three three different topics.
[5:03:11] First of all I want to speak to
[5:03:15] a shout out for a park staff
[5:03:16] member today that I happened to
[5:03:17] chat with on my way to get
[5:03:20] coffee.
[5:03:20] He was so wonderful.
[5:03:25] He was just getting out of his
[5:03:25] truck over by Children's Park
[5:03:30] and I just want to compliment
[5:03:31] and thank our all of our park
[5:03:35] employees and the director for
[5:03:35] what they do for our parks.
[5:03:39] They're just so appreciated and
[5:03:39] valued.
[5:03:44] I also want to chat about I
[5:03:44] want to recommend that
[5:03:49] the public read the article.
[5:03:53] I think it was I don't remember
[5:03:54] what day it was very recently
[5:03:58] yesterday or the day before or
[5:03:59] Friday on the pension payment
[5:04:03] that's now been decided and
[5:04:04] it's higher than last year much
[5:04:08] higher and I just can't you
[5:04:09] know the pension crisis has
[5:04:09] challenged me.
[5:04:13] I started in oh four when we
[5:04:14] were in run by the c because of
[5:04:18] the pension debacle And I have
[5:04:18] not been able to understand
[5:04:19] the system all these years.
[5:04:22] But this article helped me to
[5:04:23] begin to really make some big
[5:04:28] cracks in it And so Budget
[5:04:28] Committee But you've got to
[5:04:32] help the people understand
[5:04:33] what's going on with
[5:04:33] the pension pension system and
[5:04:37] how it impacts our budget.
[5:04:38] And then one other thing I may
[5:04:41] go over to a city clerk.
[5:04:46] I Googled about India and how
[5:04:47] India was able to be so
[5:04:51] effective to get their digital
[5:04:56] divide stopped or not helped
[5:04:56] and I just can't recommend
[5:05:02] enough that I.T and any but
[5:05:02] there's an item coming up I
[5:05:06] believe very soon on it and
[5:05:07] your time just concluded sorry
[5:05:13] Becky wrap your final speaker.
[5:05:14] >> Good evening my name is
[5:05:14] Becky Rapp and first I want to
[5:05:17] thank the council for today's
[5:05:18] discussion on the recent crime
[5:05:19] briefing And I'd also like to
[5:05:23] express my appreciation to
[5:05:24] the San Diego Police Department
[5:05:24] for the hard work they do every
[5:05:27] day to keep our communities
[5:05:28] safe.
[5:05:28] Our officers are often asked to
[5:05:32] respond to incredibly complex
[5:05:33] situations and many of those
[5:05:37] situations involve behavioral
[5:05:38] health challenges.
[5:05:38] As mentioned earlier,
[5:05:39] behavioral health is a very
[5:05:42] real and growing issue in our
[5:05:43] city and San Diego continues to
[5:05:43] face a severe shortage of
[5:05:47] behavioral health services.
[5:05:47] Too often our police officers
[5:05:51] are placed on the front lines
[5:05:52] of crises and would be at a
[5:05:53] crisis that would be better
[5:05:56] handle with trained
[5:05:57] professionals And we ask a
[5:05:58] great deal of our officers and
[5:06:02] they deserve to have the proper
[5:06:02] resources and experts available
[5:06:06] to support them as the Council
[5:06:07] considers proposals to expand
[5:06:07] the social equity cannabis
[5:06:11] program by adding 36 additional
[5:06:12] retail marijuana permits
[5:06:12] potentially doubling the number
[5:06:16] of pot shops in our city.
[5:06:17] I believe it would be helpful
[5:06:17] for the public and for
[5:06:21] policymakers to see a clear
[5:06:22] cost analysis Specifically how
[5:06:25] much city funding staff time
[5:06:26] and administrative resources
[5:06:26] would be required to support
[5:06:30] and expansion of the marijuana
[5:06:34] industry compared to investing
[5:06:35] those same resources into
[5:06:35] behavioral health services and
[5:06:39] professionals who could work
[5:06:40] alongside our first responders
[5:06:44] At a time when San Diego is
[5:06:45] already facing difficult budget
[5:06:45] decisions, it's critical that
[5:06:48] we carefully evaluate where our
[5:06:49] limited resources will make
[5:06:50] the greatest impact
[5:06:53] strengthening behavioral health
[5:06:54] infrastructure would directly
[5:06:55] support public safety.
[5:06:59] Our officers and the long term
[5:06:59] well-being of our entire city.
[5:07:04] Thank them.
[5:07:04] Thank you.
[5:07:05] This does conclude knowledge
[5:07:05] and a public comment for
[5:07:06] today's meeting.
[5:07:09] All right.
[5:07:10] Thank you, City Clerk.
[5:07:10] Does the city attorney have
[5:07:11] anything to report out from
[5:07:11] closed session?
[5:07:14] There's no report out from
[5:07:14] closed session.
[5:07:15] >> All right.
[5:07:15] Thank you for that.
[5:07:18] Lastly, we will now adjourn
[5:07:19] council to the regularly
[5:07:19] scheduled council meeting on
[5:07:21] Tuesday MARCH 17th, 2026 at 10
[5:07:21] A.M..