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meeting.

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I will now call the special

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City Council meeting of

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Thursday, MAY 7th, 2026 to

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order Assistant clerk please

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call the Roll Councilmember

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Campbell Councilmember Whipper

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here.

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Councilmember Foster Council

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Von Wilpert Council PRESIDENT

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Pro Tem Lee Councilmember Campo

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here Council Moreno Present

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Council Member ilo Rivera and

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Council PRESIDENT LaCava

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PRESIDENT.

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>> Also attending the meeting

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are Assistant City Attorney

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Leslie Fitzgerald, Senior

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Fiscal and policy Analyst in

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the aba Office.

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Amy Lee Senior Policy Advisor

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in the Mayor's office

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Christopher Ackerman Avila and

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myself your Assistant City

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Clerk dg Pentel Pantaleon.

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>> All right, Thank you for

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that And I noticed that there

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was a little if it was

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sweetness leaving the room so

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it was So with that a quorum is

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now present since this is a

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special council meeting under

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the unlike the brc meeting

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earlier today.

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Before we start today's meeting

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I want to remind everyone about

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the city's practices and

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procedures for public comment

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at city Council meetings City

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welcomes public participation

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at our City Council meeting.

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Speakers MAY address

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the Council during public

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comment and also in connection

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with a specific item of

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However, the city must make

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sure that no one person or

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group of people disrupt

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the meeting in a way that

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prohibits other speakers from

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expressing their ideas and

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So to make sure that everyone

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here has an opportunity to

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address the Council I will

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alert an individual or

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individuals if I think their

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conduct becomes disruptive.

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will rule the individual out of

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order and if the disruption

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declare a recess.

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We can restore order at that

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point we will direct

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the individual leave the room

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and if the individual refuses

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the process of warning as

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recessing the meeting all

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members of the public will be

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excused from chambers.

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practices and procedures to

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the Council to conduct

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the public's business and

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frankly to show respect to

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the members of the public who

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chose to spend their Thursday

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evening here in chambers Unlike

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other fun things I could have

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you think about when you offer

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please go over how the public

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can after their testimony I

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the screen that reviews how

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public testimony during this

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evening's meeting.

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the agenda summary found online

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or at the table in the back of

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the room If you are in person

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please complete a speaker slip

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located at the entrance of

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chambers and bring it to

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available near the entrance of

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chambers and can assist with

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will be taken once the council

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Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

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introduce item 600 item 600 as

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Senate Bill 79 phased

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implementation and exempting

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development areas.

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I see staff is seated.

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When you're ready introduce

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yourselves for the record and

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let us know how much time you

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need for the presentation.

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Good in the council members My

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name is Grant Rody.

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I'm a senior planner with

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the City Planning Department.

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I'm here with Seth Luciani,

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deputy Director of housing

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policy and Environmental

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Analysis and City Planning and

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I am presenting the City Plan

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Department's proposed Senate

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plan with exemptions and it

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will be about 15 minutes.

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>> Pursuant to the requirements

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of the bill, the city Council

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needs to adopt an ordinance to

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phase in sb seven an

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implementation in low resource

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areas very high fire severity

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zones sites with designated

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historic resources and outside

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to deter one foot sea level

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rise and to exempt areas

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outside of a one mile walk in

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distance from sb seven nine

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applicability Today the city

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Planning Department is

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proposing an ordinance

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the phase the implementation of

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sb 79 and exempt certain areas

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from sb 79 implementation sb

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seven nine was signed by

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Governor Andrew some on OCTOBER

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10th 2025 and seeks to address

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the state's housing shortage

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create homeownership

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opportunities and to build more

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homes near transit.

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Sb seven as requirements are

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generally consistent with

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including the housing element

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which calls for more housing

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options throughout the city and

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the city's climate Action plan

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calling for more homes and jobs

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located near transit.

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>> sb seven nine requires

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the city to approve certain

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housing developments within a

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transit oriented development or

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towed stops and sites that are

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or commercial development.

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calculated as a straight line

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create a map of today's stops

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and zones within the city while

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the city plans that is created

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spotlighted zones in the two

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and a half mile of a tide stop.

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qualifying train to start with

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the largest buildings and sites

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that are within 200ft.

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with several implementation

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options including the phasing

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in and exemption of certain

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areas of the city along with a

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total alternative plan that can

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comprehensively implement a

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phased implementation approach.

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locations for future

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and incorporate the feedback

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growth through a two tiered

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alternative plan can help

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benefit San Diego addressing

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will help to improve public

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the implementation of sb 79 in

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the city additional time to

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while furthering fair housing

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by allowing more homes a

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specifically anticipated in sb

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79 which provides for this

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planning and the development of

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the city to mark responsibly

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plan and anticipate for growth

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in a manner that can be most

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efficiently served with

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police and trash collection.

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>> sb seven nine allows

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the city to exempt areas where

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a walking path of less than one

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mile from eligible size city

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stops does not exist.

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lead to actual transit oriented

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the development allowed under

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sb 79 provides opportunities

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for future community members to

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access study stops.

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The City Plan Department

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proposed ordinance would exempt

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affected by the implementation

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of the bill or be included in

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an alternative plan.

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the intent of sb 79 is to spur

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transit oriented development

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and areas outside of a one mile

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walking distance from these

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stops are not transit oriented.

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The city plan department also

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calculated the areas without a

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walking path of one mile or

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less taking into account areas

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lacking sidewalks as the path

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of travel should include safe

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publicly accessible sidewalks

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to qualify for sb seven and an

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implementation sb seven nine

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permits a phased implementation

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in lower resource areas as

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identified by the California

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Tax Credit Allocation Committee

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until one year after

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the adoption of the Seventh

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Housing Limited, the city and

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2031 the City Plan department

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can also implement sb 79

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through community plan updates

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and low resource areas prior to

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2031 to ensure that at the sb

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79 densities are addressed

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phasing the implementation as

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desired primarily to focus

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housing development in areas

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with access to opportunity

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prior to being implemented in

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low resource areas.

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>> Portions of the Toddies

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alternate arterial tiered zones

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are in very high fire severity

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zones adopted by the City

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Council on AUGUST 2025 because

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a significant portion of

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the total zones are in these

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very high fire severity zones

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the Department recommends a

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phased implementation through a

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total turn up plan to address

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fire safety.

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The top alternative plan allows

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the city to ensure

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the development required by sb

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79 is not located in places

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with the most fire risk in

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those areas that only have a

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single evacuation route.

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Sb seven nine also permits a

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phased implementation on sites

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containing historic resource

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that are designated as of

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JANUARY 1st 2025 sb seven nine

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implementation would occur on

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these sites with a total

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alternative plan to ensure

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the city's newly adopted

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historic preservation

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regulations can be taken into

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account.

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Phase implementation is also

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allowed on sites that are

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identified as vulnerable to a

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one foot sea level rise as

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shown on the map attached to

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the staff report.

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The areas affected by a one

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foot sea level rise are on

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the western side of Mission

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Valley.

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The phase of limitation of

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these areas would occur as part

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of a tod alternative plan to

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address climate resiliency.

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Starting on JULY 1st sb 79 will

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take effect on all qualifying

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sites.

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This means the default

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densities will apply in all

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commercial mixed use and

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residential zones.

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If the proposed ordinance is

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approved, only areas outside of

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low resource areas that do not

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include designated historic

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resources are not subject to

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sea level rise and not in very

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high fire severity zones would

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take effect on JULY 1st.

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These areas are marked in

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yellow on the map and

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constitute approximately 22% of

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the areas within Todd Zoned

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citywide.

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After approval of the proposed

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ordinance phase in

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the implementation of sb 79 and

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exempting specified areas must

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be 70 an implementation by

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the City Council.

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City planning will transmit

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the ordinance to hb asked for

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review and comment.

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Under sb 79 it has 90 to 120

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days to evaluate whether

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the city's actions comply with

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sb 79.

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If hpd determines that

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revisions are necessary,

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the city MAY amend

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the ordinance to address these

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comments or adopt

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the resolution affirming

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the ordinance and explaining

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the city's rationale for why

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its actions comply with sb 79.

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To preliminary conversations

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hpd staff has indicated that a

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locally adopted ordinance would

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take effect upon city adoption

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and hpd is review is not

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required to be completed for

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the ordinance to take effect.

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The city plan department also

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plan to prepare a tldr

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alternative plan to implement

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sb 79 which will include

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amendments to the Miscible

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Code, zoning community plans

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and the general plan.

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The total alternative plan

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would be provided for public

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review and comment before being

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submitted for consideration to

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the Planning Commission.

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The Land Use and Housing

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Committee and the City Council.

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The Department anticipates that

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it can bring this item forward

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later this year.

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>> The Planning Commission

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voted to recommend to the City

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Council the approval of an

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ordinance exempting areas and

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phasing implementation of sb 79

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within Todd zoned citywide

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inclusive of low resource

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areas.

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The motion further recommends

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that should the Todd

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alternative plan not be

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approved as of APRIL 2027 staff

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shall return to the Planning

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Commission by MAY 2027 for

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consideration.

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City Planning Staff recommends

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the approval of an orange to

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phase the implementation of sb

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79 as proposed by city planning

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staff and to exempt areas not

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located near transit from sb

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seven nine implementation as

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provided for in sb 79.

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>> This includes staff

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presentation and where

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available for any questions you

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have.

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>> Thank you.

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All right.

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Thank you very much for

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the presentation.

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Clerk Please proceed with

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public comment.

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>> Thank you.

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Council PRESIDENT I'd like to

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note that this item received

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281 comments in favor and 19

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comments in opposition via our

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comment form which had been

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distributed to City Council.

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The public comment period is

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now open.

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We received 43 speaker slips

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from individuals in chambers

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and currently have six hands up

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from those attending virtually

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We will go to one minute per

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person just friendly reminder

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to individual seating.

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Time to please raise your hand

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when I call your name so we're

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able to account for the slips

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that you submitted.

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We will begin with Doreen Diaz

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pastor.

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You have time ceded to you by

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Terri Fowler.

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>> Kimberly Roberts surely use

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Thank you.

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You have four minutes.

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Please don't stop my cow.

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Thank you.

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Who is going to control my

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projector?

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Don't start my time.

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Okay.

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Can I go like this?

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Just a slide.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Before you I don't want to

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waste time waiting for my

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slide.

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Thank you so much.

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So we can scroll this one.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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The most important thing for

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him is here right now Is that

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we have a low resource area

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with naturally occurring

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affordable homes.

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We still have some three

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bedroom homes, two baths,

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garage front yard backyard

525
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renting at 2300 which is

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the same rate of those horrible

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80 bonus.

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We need what you had on You

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have FEBRUARY 3rd 13th 2026

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Memo spoke about Lemon Grove

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and I didn't see it during this

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presentation or updated.

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But because Lemon Grove is 35 k

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the one you acquired to go half

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a mile and going oh sorry a

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quarter of a mile going a

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quarter of a mile affects 70

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homes in Hamakua and going a

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half a mile affects 307 low

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resource homes.

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So different 1717 versus 307.

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I took a photo That blue dot is

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the Lemon Grove station And you

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look there they are all single

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family homes exclusively.

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>> There's no vacant lot.

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>> So if you check we are ctca

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is the resort area 17 streets

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are affected that tamisha skip

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that I don't have much time.

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>> All of our streets are two

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Main street lined on both sides

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with cars.

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>> We do not have any four lane

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streets.

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They are narrow street and of

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the 17 streets we have 15 of

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those street have most of

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the homes in very high fire

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zone.

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>> The majority of those

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streets are 100% of the homes

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and only a few streets have

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partial of the homes.

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And in these two sectors which

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is also uploaded let's go to

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the next one.

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So over here to verify

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everything I'm saying you can

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check this char.

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You can count the homes.

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We are going to be severely

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impacted in less.

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You lobby that the city of San

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Diego will end up being

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equitable with the city of

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Lemon grow so that we can go

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one fourth of a mile.

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There is no other neighborhood

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affected by the master to

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the trolley station except for

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the Hamsher neighborhood.

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It doesn't affect Encanto,

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doesn't affect Broadway.

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It is exclusively ours and we

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are low income and we have a

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lot of steep hills.

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I sent you all an email that I

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would give you our personal

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tour and my car to show you and

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let you walk up these hills

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yourself If you wanted to see

593
00:16:28,739 --> 00:16:33,100
how steep they are All of us we

594
00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:33,711
either drive to the trolley

595
00:16:33,711 --> 00:16:37,311
station or we get dropped off

596
00:16:38,115 --> 00:16:38,782
on a trolley station very few

597
00:16:38,782 --> 00:16:41,782
or younger healthy or people

598
00:16:42,885 --> 00:16:43,354
walk to the Massachusetts

599
00:16:43,354 --> 00:16:44,540
trolley station.

600
00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:47,654
The majority of our people if

601
00:16:48,125 --> 00:16:48,792
you look at the census and I'm

602
00:16:48,792 --> 00:16:51,792
talking this this sector we

603
00:16:52,296 --> 00:16:55,296
have three centers because we

604
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:56,800
have 413 acres But in this

605
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,800
slanted 14202 it is a majority

606
00:17:00,771 --> 00:17:01,804
of the homeowners are over 65.

607
00:17:01,804 --> 00:17:06,510
So we are if you look at how

608
00:17:06,510 --> 00:17:07,144
many seniors we have a lot of

609
00:17:07,144 --> 00:17:10,144
senior homes and of course

610
00:17:11,820 --> 00:17:11,682
the kids and their grandkids

611
00:17:11,682 --> 00:17:12,316
and sometimes the great

612
00:17:12,316 --> 00:17:14,716
grandkids because we have

613
00:17:16,187 --> 00:17:16,654
multigenerational homes.

614
00:17:16,654 --> 00:17:17,321
>> Thank you.

615
00:17:17,321 --> 00:17:18,155
Thank you for your comment.

616
00:17:18,155 --> 00:17:21,325
Our next speaker is Andrea had

617
00:17:21,325 --> 00:17:21,659
the roof you have please please

618
00:17:21,659 --> 00:17:22,260
come up.

619
00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:24,260
Thank you.

620
00:17:25,563 --> 00:17:26,263
You have as you're coming up

621
00:17:26,263 --> 00:17:26,931
for those who have been in

622
00:17:26,931 --> 00:17:29,931
chambers for the very first

623
00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,634
time we have speakers in

624
00:17:30,634 --> 00:17:31,302
the back So if they're in

625
00:17:31,302 --> 00:17:34,204
the hallway or the bathroom

626
00:17:34,204 --> 00:17:34,638
they can hear the testimony

627
00:17:34,638 --> 00:17:35,473
going forward.

628
00:17:35,473 --> 00:17:36,173
So I just want to be assured

629
00:17:36,173 --> 00:17:38,442
that everybody is listening to

630
00:17:38,442 --> 00:17:39,143
every comment irrespective of

631
00:17:39,143 --> 00:17:42,743
whether they're in a seat or

632
00:17:43,481 --> 00:17:43,881
they're just standing up.

633
00:17:43,881 --> 00:17:44,614
Thank you.

634
00:17:44,614 --> 00:17:45,416
Council PRESIDENT You have time

635
00:17:45,416 --> 00:17:48,519
ceded to you by Susan Baldwin

636
00:17:48,519 --> 00:17:49,387
Thank you.

637
00:17:49,387 --> 00:17:52,823
Please comment I am in favor of

638
00:17:52,823 --> 00:17:53,524
staff's recommendation to phase

639
00:17:53,524 --> 00:17:55,924
in implementation of sb 79

640
00:17:57,295 --> 00:17:57,995
particularly as it regards low

641
00:17:57,995 --> 00:17:59,995
resource areas additional

642
00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,401
amenities should be in place

643
00:18:03,401 --> 00:18:06,401
before up zoning low resource

644
00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:07,672
areas because amenities

645
00:18:07,672 --> 00:18:10,672
determine who is willing to

646
00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:13,440
move into a community Low

647
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,440
resource areas need an increase

648
00:18:16,848 --> 00:18:19,848
in that capacity before adding

649
00:18:21,284 --> 00:18:22,190
more people investments in them

650
00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:25,619
must be of sufficient scale and

651
00:18:25,690 --> 00:18:26,324
prominence to signal

652
00:18:26,324 --> 00:18:26,991
the stability that changes

653
00:18:26,991 --> 00:18:29,991
the avoidance loop of higher

654
00:18:30,727 --> 00:18:31,496
income residents.

655
00:18:31,496 --> 00:18:32,196
This does not happen by

656
00:18:32,196 --> 00:18:34,596
changing who lives there

657
00:18:36,167 --> 00:18:38,567
immediately but by changing

658
00:18:40,404 --> 00:18:41,105
what the place means as a

659
00:18:41,105 --> 00:18:43,505
residential address so that

660
00:18:45,343 --> 00:18:46,430
over time it can attract a

661
00:18:46,430 --> 00:18:48,443
broader income mix and

662
00:18:50,548 --> 00:18:50,882
the resources that come with

663
00:18:50,882 --> 00:18:52,882
it.

664
00:18:54,252 --> 00:18:54,885
Sb 79 confronts us with

665
00:18:54,885 --> 00:18:56,885
generations of inequitable

666
00:18:59,557 --> 00:19:03,157
planning in our land use system

667
00:19:03,828 --> 00:19:08,280
The full five year phase in is

668
00:19:08,266 --> 00:19:08,565
likely necessary to get this

669
00:19:08,565 --> 00:19:08,933
right.

670
00:19:08,933 --> 00:19:10,933
Thank you.

671
00:19:13,638 --> 00:19:14,372
Thank you for your comment.

672
00:19:14,372 --> 00:19:17,972
Our next speaker is Ethan Paul.

673
00:19:19,477 --> 00:19:20,244
Please come up and following

674
00:19:20,244 --> 00:19:23,244
Ethan follows Paul Is Zach

675
00:19:25,249 --> 00:19:25,950
positive Carol if you can

676
00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:26,718
please come up as well just

677
00:19:26,718 --> 00:19:30,210
take a seat on the front row

678
00:19:30,210 --> 00:19:33,210
Reserved seat You'll have one

679
00:19:35,226 --> 00:19:35,693
minute.

680
00:19:35,693 --> 00:19:36,361
>> Good evening.

681
00:19:36,361 --> 00:19:38,361
Honorable Council PRESIDENT

682
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:40,364
LaCava and City Council members

683
00:19:40,364 --> 00:19:41,233
.

684
00:19:41,233 --> 00:19:42,100
My name is Ethan Paul and I'm

685
00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:45,360
here on behalf of Build a City

686
00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:45,603
a grassroots organization

687
00:19:45,603 --> 00:19:46,271
focused on documenting

688
00:19:46,271 --> 00:19:48,271
construction and development

689
00:19:49,941 --> 00:19:50,675
here in our community.

690
00:19:50,675 --> 00:19:54,275
San Diego has invested in fast,

691
00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:54,945
frequent and reliable bus

692
00:19:54,945 --> 00:19:58,545
routes but so many of my

693
00:19:58,917 --> 00:19:59,651
friends and family can't afford

694
00:19:59,651 --> 00:20:00,385
and don't have the opportunity

695
00:20:00,385 --> 00:20:03,421
to live in the communities that

696
00:20:03,421 --> 00:20:03,687
these routes have been built

697
00:20:03,687 --> 00:20:04,689
in.

698
00:20:04,689 --> 00:20:08,593
If we want more clean, safe and

699
00:20:08,593 --> 00:20:09,262
affordable places for our

700
00:20:09,262 --> 00:20:12,262
friends and family to live,

701
00:20:13,532 --> 00:20:14,232
this city should take this

702
00:20:14,232 --> 00:20:14,866
opportunity and recognize that

703
00:20:14,866 --> 00:20:18,466
the busses and stops on El

704
00:20:18,904 --> 00:20:19,537
Cajon Boulevard and University

705
00:20:19,537 --> 00:20:19,971
Avenue qualify as Tier two

706
00:20:19,971 --> 00:20:21,971
transit stops.

707
00:20:23,542 --> 00:20:24,242
We have built a city.

708
00:20:24,242 --> 00:20:24,843
Hope your decision today helps

709
00:20:24,843 --> 00:20:25,310
make that future a more

710
00:20:25,310 --> 00:20:27,310
affordable one.

711
00:20:29,446 --> 00:20:30,115
Thank you for your time.

712
00:20:30,115 --> 00:20:32,651
Thank you for your comment.

713
00:20:32,651 --> 00:20:32,984
Zach DeFazio Pharrell, please

714
00:20:32,984 --> 00:20:33,818
come up.

715
00:20:33,818 --> 00:20:34,286
You have time ceded to you by

716
00:20:34,286 --> 00:20:36,286
Daniel castelli.

717
00:20:36,955 --> 00:20:39,355
Please raise your hand.

718
00:20:42,126 --> 00:20:42,627
Keith Gupta Thank you, Tony.

719
00:20:42,627 --> 00:20:44,627
Thank you.

720
00:20:46,665 --> 00:20:47,132
Jason Vance.

721
00:20:47,132 --> 00:20:47,599
Thank you.

722
00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:47,966
Manny Rodriguez.

723
00:20:47,966 --> 00:20:49,966
Thank you.

724
00:20:53,472 --> 00:20:53,972
Jeffrey Crow.

725
00:20:53,972 --> 00:20:54,339
>> Paul Jamison.

726
00:20:54,339 --> 00:20:56,339
Thank you.

727
00:20:59,144 --> 00:20:59,711
Carlisle Dockery.

728
00:20:59,711 --> 00:21:00,120
>> No Carlos.

729
00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,120
Okay.

730
00:21:04,248 --> 00:21:04,850
Christina Hammond.

731
00:21:04,850 --> 00:21:06,850
>> Hammond Thank you.

732
00:21:08,887 --> 00:21:09,254
Chloe La.

733
00:21:09,254 --> 00:21:09,922
Thank you.

734
00:21:09,922 --> 00:21:12,322
Stephanie Palacio Thank you.

735
00:21:13,692 --> 00:21:14,259
Guthrie Leonard.

736
00:21:14,259 --> 00:21:16,259
>> Thank you.

737
00:21:18,496 --> 00:21:18,897
Lucy Laugher.

738
00:21:18,897 --> 00:21:19,364
Thank you.

739
00:21:19,364 --> 00:21:19,764
Maxwell Gergen.

740
00:21:19,764 --> 00:21:21,764
Thank you.

741
00:21:24,303 --> 00:21:24,670
Thank you, MR. Blaine Wagner.

742
00:21:24,670 --> 00:21:25,137
Thank you.

743
00:21:25,137 --> 00:21:27,137
Paul Cortez.

744
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,240
Thank you.

745
00:21:33,450 --> 00:21:33,545
Hunter Parker.

746
00:21:33,545 --> 00:21:35,545
Thank you.

747
00:21:37,115 --> 00:21:37,449
You have 15 minutes.

748
00:21:37,449 --> 00:21:39,449
Please.

749
00:21:41,186 --> 00:21:41,486
Please proceed to your comment

750
00:21:41,486 --> 00:21:41,887
.

751
00:21:41,887 --> 00:21:42,521
Thank you.

752
00:21:42,521 --> 00:21:42,921
Thank you very much To

753
00:21:42,921 --> 00:21:43,522
the council.

754
00:21:43,522 --> 00:21:46,522
My name is Zach DeFazio.

755
00:21:46,825 --> 00:21:47,459
Ferrell and the treasurer of

756
00:21:47,459 --> 00:21:48,930
the Democrats of San Diego

757
00:21:48,930 --> 00:21:49,828
County And I'm a member of

758
00:21:49,828 --> 00:21:50,496
the Law and Policy team.

759
00:21:50,496 --> 00:21:52,496
Next slide, please.

760
00:21:55,366 --> 00:21:55,766
Next slide, please.

761
00:21:55,766 --> 00:21:56,235
Thank you.

762
00:21:56,235 --> 00:21:58,235
This is good.

763
00:22:00,372 --> 00:22:01,173
So kind of a rhetorical

764
00:22:01,173 --> 00:22:01,473
question but why are we here

765
00:22:01,473 --> 00:22:02,174
today?

766
00:22:02,174 --> 00:22:02,841
We have an ordinance in front

767
00:22:02,841 --> 00:22:04,976
of us this evening regarding

768
00:22:04,976 --> 00:22:05,377
how we're going to be phasing

769
00:22:05,377 --> 00:22:07,377
sb 79.

770
00:22:10,182 --> 00:22:10,683
And the issue for us is that

771
00:22:10,683 --> 00:22:11,416
the city's current

772
00:22:11,416 --> 00:22:14,416
interpretation of how this will

773
00:22:14,987 --> 00:22:15,721
be phased only recognizes for

774
00:22:15,721 --> 00:22:18,121
transit oriented development or

775
00:22:20,590 --> 00:22:20,793
tod qualifying bus stops.

776
00:22:20,793 --> 00:22:21,460
Yet we believe that there are

777
00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:23,860
actually 48 bus stops and

778
00:22:24,964 --> 00:22:25,431
they've left out of their

779
00:22:25,431 --> 00:22:26,165
interpretation.

780
00:22:26,165 --> 00:22:26,598
And so there should be a total

781
00:22:26,598 --> 00:22:28,598
of 52.

782
00:22:30,336 --> 00:22:31,360
We sent a formal letter to

783
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:31,769
the council asking for you to

784
00:22:31,769 --> 00:22:33,769
reconsider particularly recital

785
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,608
e and the ordinance.

786
00:22:35,608 --> 00:22:38,544
So we'll explain why all these

787
00:22:38,544 --> 00:22:39,278
stops qualify and what you

788
00:22:39,278 --> 00:22:39,778
councilmembers can do about it.

789
00:22:39,778 --> 00:22:41,778
Next slide please.

790
00:22:43,983 --> 00:22:45,983
Okay.

791
00:22:47,186 --> 00:22:47,953
So the text of sd 79 requires a

792
00:22:47,953 --> 00:22:51,553
full time dedicated bus lane or

793
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,558
up to the separate right of way

794
00:22:52,558 --> 00:22:53,259
dedicated for public

795
00:22:53,259 --> 00:22:56,259
transportation for a bus stop

796
00:22:57,290 --> 00:22:57,763
to qualify for Tier two or

797
00:22:57,763 --> 00:23:00,163
transit oriented development or

798
00:23:01,567 --> 00:23:02,468
tod up zoning.

799
00:23:02,468 --> 00:23:02,935
As I mentioned we disagree with

800
00:23:02,935 --> 00:23:03,402
the city staff's

801
00:23:03,402 --> 00:23:05,402
interpretation.

802
00:23:06,906 --> 00:23:07,606
We don't think it's consistent

803
00:23:07,606 --> 00:23:08,274
with California law nor is it

804
00:23:08,274 --> 00:23:11,274
supported by the city's own

805
00:23:11,376 --> 00:23:11,911
stated goals to increase

806
00:23:11,911 --> 00:23:12,477
housing production.

807
00:23:12,477 --> 00:23:16,770
And as we have come to

808
00:23:16,682 --> 00:23:17,383
understand of the staff's

809
00:23:17,383 --> 00:23:18,500
argument that these bus lanes

810
00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,720
allow bikes and write turns

811
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:21,253
from other vehicles like

812
00:23:21,253 --> 00:23:21,953
private vehicles at

813
00:23:21,953 --> 00:23:24,953
intersections and thus they do

814
00:23:25,524 --> 00:23:25,824
not qualify as dedicated bus

815
00:23:25,824 --> 00:23:26,324
lanes.

816
00:23:26,324 --> 00:23:28,324
Next slide please.

817
00:23:30,829 --> 00:23:31,397
So there are three disputed

818
00:23:31,397 --> 00:23:33,397
corridors in question.

819
00:23:35,634 --> 00:23:36,302
The first is the El Cajon

820
00:23:36,302 --> 00:23:39,302
Boulevard bus way that goes

821
00:23:39,639 --> 00:23:40,339
from Elkhorn Boulevard or Park

822
00:23:40,339 --> 00:23:43,339
Boulevard all the way to

823
00:23:43,643 --> 00:23:44,343
roughly Fairmont the second

824
00:23:44,343 --> 00:23:45,440
University Avenue from Florida

825
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:45,678
Street to Boundary Street and

826
00:23:45,678 --> 00:23:48,780
Park Boulevard going from

827
00:23:49,150 --> 00:23:49,448
upstream to City College

828
00:23:49,448 --> 00:23:51,448
approximately.

829
00:23:53,786 --> 00:23:54,587
Next slide please.

830
00:23:54,587 --> 00:23:55,321
So how do these disputed

831
00:23:55,321 --> 00:23:58,321
quarters qualify as full time

832
00:23:59,124 --> 00:23:59,792
dedicated bus lanes?

833
00:23:59,792 --> 00:24:00,258
Let's break this one down.

834
00:24:00,258 --> 00:24:02,258
Next slide.

835
00:24:02,427 --> 00:24:03,610
Argument number one

836
00:24:03,610 --> 00:24:03,596
the disputed bus lanes are

837
00:24:03,596 --> 00:24:05,596
factually full time.

838
00:24:09,836 --> 00:24:10,436
Next slide, please.

839
00:24:10,436 --> 00:24:12,836
So the disputed quarters

840
00:24:14,173 --> 00:24:14,973
feature full time bus lanes

841
00:24:14,973 --> 00:24:15,308
because they exist 24 hours of

842
00:24:15,308 --> 00:24:17,308
the day.

843
00:24:19,145 --> 00:24:19,712
They are not only to be used

844
00:24:19,712 --> 00:24:20,580
during peak hours.

845
00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:21,347
So this is a clear distinction

846
00:24:21,347 --> 00:24:24,784
from bus lanes that might be

847
00:24:24,784 --> 00:24:25,451
used during rush hour traffic

848
00:24:25,451 --> 00:24:26,219
or something to that effect.

849
00:24:26,219 --> 00:24:29,819
And there's a sign there in

850
00:24:29,822 --> 00:24:30,556
that photo that's of the bus

851
00:24:30,556 --> 00:24:31,290
lane on Park Boulevard south of

852
00:24:31,290 --> 00:24:31,657
Upper Street, one of the ones I

853
00:24:31,657 --> 00:24:33,657
mentioned.

854
00:24:33,959 --> 00:24:34,394
Notice that sign says busses

855
00:24:34,394 --> 00:24:35,194
only 24 hours.

856
00:24:35,194 --> 00:24:38,364
It is a full time bus lane.

857
00:24:38,364 --> 00:24:39,650
Next slide please.

858
00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:41,465
Argument number two Existing

859
00:24:43,369 --> 00:24:44,103
state law permits bikes and

860
00:24:44,103 --> 00:24:44,670
other vehicles in dedicated bus

861
00:24:44,670 --> 00:24:46,670
lanes when authorized.

862
00:24:48,408 --> 00:24:49,108
>> Next slide please.

863
00:24:49,108 --> 00:24:49,809
So the staff says the disputed

864
00:24:49,809 --> 00:24:52,209
quarters don't qualify because

865
00:24:52,645 --> 00:24:53,212
they'll outright turns and

866
00:24:53,212 --> 00:24:53,947
bikes as I mentioned.

867
00:24:53,947 --> 00:24:56,347
However, the California vehicle

868
00:24:57,500 --> 00:24:57,784
code explicitly states that

869
00:24:57,784 --> 00:24:58,484
lanes with these features still

870
00:24:58,484 --> 00:25:01,484
qualify as transit only which

871
00:25:02,688 --> 00:25:03,256
includes bus only.

872
00:25:03,256 --> 00:25:03,923
And there are various

873
00:25:03,923 --> 00:25:06,323
subdivisions of the vehicle

874
00:25:07,660 --> 00:25:10,660
code that allow cities relevant

875
00:25:11,698 --> 00:25:12,398
jurisdictions and relevant

876
00:25:12,398 --> 00:25:13,990
transit agencies to establish

877
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:16,990
transit lanes together and to

878
00:25:17,237 --> 00:25:17,904
authorize different kinds of

879
00:25:17,904 --> 00:25:20,904
vehicles to use those lanes.

880
00:25:22,750 --> 00:25:22,775
And it does not it does not

881
00:25:22,775 --> 00:25:23,542
remove their qualifying nature

882
00:25:23,542 --> 00:25:27,213
as some kind of bus or transit

883
00:25:27,213 --> 00:25:27,914
lane.

884
00:25:27,914 --> 00:25:28,581
And so three of the lanes

885
00:25:28,581 --> 00:25:30,981
through the corridors we're

886
00:25:31,818 --> 00:25:32,418
talking about all of them allow

887
00:25:32,418 --> 00:25:33,850
private vehicles to pass

888
00:25:33,850 --> 00:25:33,686
through them to make a right

889
00:25:33,686 --> 00:25:36,860
turn at an intersection.

890
00:25:37,189 --> 00:25:37,890
And a home boulevard bus way

891
00:25:37,890 --> 00:25:40,890
and the University Avenue bus

892
00:25:41,661 --> 00:25:42,361
lanes allow bicyclists to use

893
00:25:42,361 --> 00:25:42,695
those bus lanes as well as

894
00:25:42,695 --> 00:25:44,695
busses.

895
00:25:46,533 --> 00:25:47,200
However, this does not mean

896
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,800
that they are not full time

897
00:25:50,904 --> 00:25:51,404
dedicated bus lanes.

898
00:25:51,404 --> 00:25:53,404
Next slide please.

899
00:25:54,674 --> 00:25:55,308
Arguing number three Sandbags

900
00:25:55,308 --> 00:25:55,976
Dedicated lanes Definition

901
00:25:55,976 --> 00:25:56,276
allows non bus vehicles and

902
00:25:56,276 --> 00:25:58,276
modes.

903
00:25:59,746 --> 00:26:00,413
Next slide please.

904
00:26:00,413 --> 00:26:03,413
So sandag has their own

905
00:26:04,284 --> 00:26:05,510
definition of what?

906
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:05,752
And what they say are that

907
00:26:05,752 --> 00:26:08,152
dedicated lanes are for

908
00:26:08,855 --> 00:26:09,556
preferential or exclusive use

909
00:26:09,556 --> 00:26:10,257
of transit services permitting

910
00:26:10,257 --> 00:26:13,257
limited use by other vehicles

911
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:13,760
services and modes.

912
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,527
Right.

913
00:26:14,527 --> 00:26:18,127
And all of these lanes do

914
00:26:19,165 --> 00:26:19,432
permit again some kind of code

915
00:26:19,432 --> 00:26:20,000
use.

916
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,000
>> Next slide, please.

917
00:26:23,136 --> 00:26:23,803
And argument number four that

918
00:26:23,803 --> 00:26:24,337
the statutes within sb 79 do

919
00:26:24,337 --> 00:26:26,337
not require explicit

920
00:26:26,873 --> 00:26:27,440
exclusivity for bus lanes.

921
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,440
Next slide please.

922
00:26:32,746 --> 00:26:35,146
So sb 79 itself specifically

923
00:26:35,549 --> 00:26:36,550
when it comes to the tier two

924
00:26:36,550 --> 00:26:40,586
sort of tier tier of bus lane

925
00:26:40,586 --> 00:26:41,321
standards doesn't say anything

926
00:26:41,321 --> 00:26:42,220
about these bus lanes having to

927
00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:44,422
physically exclude other kinds

928
00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:46,226
of vehicles or bicycles or

929
00:26:46,226 --> 00:26:46,626
anything of that nature from

930
00:26:46,626 --> 00:26:48,626
using them.

931
00:26:50,330 --> 00:26:50,831
In order to qualify it does do

932
00:26:50,831 --> 00:26:51,598
so for Tier one.

933
00:26:51,598 --> 00:26:54,734
None of which which does not

934
00:26:54,734 --> 00:26:55,350
apply to any of these corridors

935
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:55,702
here.

936
00:26:55,702 --> 00:26:59,302
But notice that for Tier one

937
00:26:59,673 --> 00:27:00,441
what's required are separate

938
00:27:00,441 --> 00:27:01,141
rights of way from which all

939
00:27:01,141 --> 00:27:01,508
vehicular and foot traffic are

940
00:27:01,508 --> 00:27:03,508
excluded.

941
00:27:04,945 --> 00:27:05,579
Yet for the Tier two standard

942
00:27:05,579 --> 00:27:07,979
they admit that language.

943
00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:13,550
And we believe that it's it's

944
00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:14,621
incorrect essentially to to

945
00:27:14,621 --> 00:27:15,422
read into a meaning that

946
00:27:15,422 --> 00:27:18,422
the legislature chose not to

947
00:27:19,293 --> 00:27:19,793
include.

948
00:27:19,793 --> 00:27:20,726
Next slide please.

949
00:27:20,726 --> 00:27:23,830
Thus we can make a very strong

950
00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:24,531
case here that the disputed

951
00:27:24,531 --> 00:27:27,531
quarters qualify as full time

952
00:27:28,702 --> 00:27:29,203
dedicated bus lanes.

953
00:27:29,203 --> 00:27:29,936
They're full time.

954
00:27:29,936 --> 00:27:30,570
They are dedicated according to

955
00:27:30,570 --> 00:27:33,207
state law and according to

956
00:27:33,207 --> 00:27:33,940
the city's own definition.

957
00:27:33,940 --> 00:27:34,541
And they are bus lanes.

958
00:27:34,541 --> 00:27:36,541
Next slide, please.

959
00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:39,579
And we'll go into some

960
00:27:39,579 --> 00:27:40,114
supporting evidence.

961
00:27:40,114 --> 00:27:40,413
Next slide, please.

962
00:27:40,413 --> 00:27:42,413
Okay.

963
00:27:43,484 --> 00:27:44,151
So we've got city documents

964
00:27:44,151 --> 00:27:44,785
that state that they are

965
00:27:44,785 --> 00:27:45,165
dedicated and they are bus

966
00:27:45,165 --> 00:27:45,786
only.

967
00:27:45,786 --> 00:27:49,356
And there's a number of them.

968
00:27:49,356 --> 00:27:52,192
This is a non-exhaustive list.

969
00:27:52,192 --> 00:27:52,893
The city Transportation

970
00:27:52,893 --> 00:27:53,594
Department of MAY 2019 which

971
00:27:53,594 --> 00:27:54,294
studied the El Cajon it was a

972
00:27:54,294 --> 00:27:57,294
pilot project for the Oklahoma

973
00:27:58,432 --> 00:27:59,132
Boulevard bus lanes before they

974
00:27:59,132 --> 00:27:59,433
were implemented the following

975
00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:01,433
year.

976
00:28:02,469 --> 00:28:03,137
We have mts website saying it

977
00:28:03,137 --> 00:28:03,871
was a joint project between

978
00:28:03,871 --> 00:28:04,225
mta, sandag and the city of San

979
00:28:04,225 --> 00:28:06,225
Diego.

980
00:28:07,741 --> 00:28:08,375
And for a University Avenue

981
00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:09,760
mobility project which is

982
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,760
the what the University Avenue

983
00:28:12,546 --> 00:28:13,790
bus lanes were called as part

984
00:28:13,790 --> 00:28:13,814
of a larger project.

985
00:28:13,814 --> 00:28:16,814
Those documents from the city's

986
00:28:17,952 --> 00:28:18,552
engineering department call

987
00:28:18,552 --> 00:28:19,530
them transit lanes along

988
00:28:19,530 --> 00:28:21,530
University Avenue.

989
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:22,356
And they were marked as bus

990
00:28:22,356 --> 00:28:24,356
only.

991
00:28:27,628 --> 00:28:28,328
Next slide please.

992
00:28:28,328 --> 00:28:29,290
And for Park Boulevard again,

993
00:28:29,290 --> 00:28:32,290
the city's own documents call

994
00:28:33,330 --> 00:28:33,701
them bus lanes.

995
00:28:33,701 --> 00:28:37,301
And this is the it's called

996
00:28:38,339 --> 00:28:39,306
Capital Improvement Project.

997
00:28:39,306 --> 00:28:39,974
Was when they had to redo a

998
00:28:39,974 --> 00:28:42,276
pipeline that's when they

999
00:28:42,276 --> 00:28:42,976
created a class four buffered

1000
00:28:42,976 --> 00:28:43,277
bike bike lane next to the bus

1001
00:28:43,277 --> 00:28:43,978
lane.

1002
00:28:43,978 --> 00:28:46,947
And you could see the pictures

1003
00:28:46,947 --> 00:28:47,247
of them that I took myself

1004
00:28:47,247 --> 00:28:48,150
here.

1005
00:28:48,150 --> 00:28:51,615
And so we have various city

1006
00:28:52,819 --> 00:28:53,521
documents calling them what

1007
00:28:53,521 --> 00:28:56,521
they are dedicated bus lanes.

1008
00:28:56,824 --> 00:28:57,592
And so we essentially we're

1009
00:28:57,592 --> 00:28:58,292
the city is using its own logic

1010
00:28:58,292 --> 00:29:01,662
here to call them bus lanes.

1011
00:29:01,662 --> 00:29:02,396
But when it comes to promoting

1012
00:29:02,396 --> 00:29:03,960
sb 79, they're not designated

1013
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,496
designating them as dedicated

1014
00:29:06,267 --> 00:29:06,801
bus lanes.

1015
00:29:06,801 --> 00:29:07,401
Next slide, please.

1016
00:29:07,401 --> 00:29:07,767
And then we've got oecd

1017
00:29:07,767 --> 00:29:09,767
guidance.

1018
00:29:11,471 --> 00:29:12,339
Next slide please.

1019
00:29:12,339 --> 00:29:15,939
And so it's really a memo

1020
00:29:16,877 --> 00:29:17,545
recently where they sort of

1021
00:29:17,545 --> 00:29:18,179
provided some guidance as to

1022
00:29:18,179 --> 00:29:21,179
how to interpret sb 79 and

1023
00:29:21,182 --> 00:29:21,715
the various tiers and what they

1024
00:29:21,715 --> 00:29:22,416
see here on the left

1025
00:29:22,416 --> 00:29:24,752
essentially is the bus service

1026
00:29:24,752 --> 00:29:25,452
meeting the standards of

1027
00:29:25,452 --> 00:29:26,153
paragraph one subdivision a of

1028
00:29:26,153 --> 00:29:28,553
section 21060.2 of the Public

1029
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:30,858
Resources Code.

1030
00:29:30,858 --> 00:29:31,559
>> Full time dedicated bus

1031
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:32,192
lanes or operation a separate

1032
00:29:32,192 --> 00:29:34,929
right of way dedicated for

1033
00:29:34,929 --> 00:29:35,328
public transportation.

1034
00:29:35,328 --> 00:29:35,997
Right.

1035
00:29:35,997 --> 00:29:36,731
Nothing about any kind of

1036
00:29:36,731 --> 00:29:38,731
physical exclusivity preventing

1037
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:41,735
private vehicles from making

1038
00:29:41,735 --> 00:29:42,136
write turns or bicyclist from

1039
00:29:42,136 --> 00:29:42,803
using them.

1040
00:29:42,803 --> 00:29:45,339
And you see on the right we

1041
00:29:45,339 --> 00:29:46,400
highlight a small section there

1042
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:46,741
qualifying bus service transit

1043
00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:49,741
oriented development stop at a

1044
00:29:50,578 --> 00:29:51,179
location with the bus stop is

1045
00:29:51,179 --> 00:29:51,779
adjacent to a full time

1046
00:29:51,779 --> 00:29:53,779
dedicated transit lane.

1047
00:29:55,716 --> 00:29:56,584
Next slide please.

1048
00:29:56,584 --> 00:29:57,218
And then we'll get into some

1049
00:29:57,218 --> 00:29:57,718
more supporting documents.

1050
00:29:57,718 --> 00:29:59,718
Next slide please.

1051
00:30:01,550 --> 00:30:01,589
This is from the Housing

1052
00:30:01,589 --> 00:30:02,289
Defense Fund letter.

1053
00:30:02,289 --> 00:30:02,924
They sent us this letter today

1054
00:30:02,924 --> 00:30:03,291
saying they agree with our

1055
00:30:03,291 --> 00:30:05,291
position.

1056
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:06,961
They do know they do not want

1057
00:30:06,961 --> 00:30:09,961
the city to exempt any

1058
00:30:10,731 --> 00:30:11,980
qualifying sb 79 Tier two tier

1059
00:30:11,980 --> 00:30:11,699
two stops.

1060
00:30:11,699 --> 00:30:13,699
This would undermine

1061
00:30:14,936 --> 00:30:15,636
the purpose of sb 79.

1062
00:30:15,636 --> 00:30:16,700
It would frustrate the city's

1063
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:18,700
housing goals.

1064
00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:20,308
And it would contravene state

1065
00:30:20,308 --> 00:30:20,808
law.

1066
00:30:20,808 --> 00:30:22,808
Next slide please.

1067
00:30:24,779 --> 00:30:25,446
So what can you do now?

1068
00:30:25,446 --> 00:30:25,947
Let's resolve this together.

1069
00:30:25,947 --> 00:30:27,947
Next slide please.

1070
00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:30,818
So our proposed solution is to

1071
00:30:30,818 --> 00:30:31,185
amend recital e of tonight's

1072
00:30:31,185 --> 00:30:33,185
ordinance.

1073
00:30:35,657 --> 00:30:36,391
We would like you to strike out

1074
00:30:36,391 --> 00:30:39,391
the current language as drafted

1075
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:40,727
and replace it with something

1076
00:30:40,727 --> 00:30:41,329
very similar to what we've

1077
00:30:41,329 --> 00:30:41,929
proposed here or perhaps

1078
00:30:41,929 --> 00:30:44,329
exactly that which would

1079
00:30:46,167 --> 00:30:46,501
include corridor as mentioned

1080
00:30:46,501 --> 00:30:47,435
tonight.

1081
00:30:47,435 --> 00:30:51,239
And then this is a map here by

1082
00:30:51,239 --> 00:30:54,239
a group called Building Three

1083
00:30:55,677 --> 00:30:56,377
which includes the all of

1084
00:30:56,377 --> 00:30:56,744
the 52 stops along the three

1085
00:30:56,744 --> 00:30:58,744
corridors.

1086
00:31:02,217 --> 00:31:02,717
And that's sort of the blob in

1087
00:31:02,717 --> 00:31:03,251
the middle there.

1088
00:31:03,251 --> 00:31:05,251
Next slide, please.

1089
00:31:07,522 --> 00:31:07,956
And then the risk of doing this

1090
00:31:07,956 --> 00:31:09,956
wrong, right?

1091
00:31:11,493 --> 00:31:12,393
>> I mean essentially we've got

1092
00:31:12,393 --> 00:31:13,610
a lot of back and forth between

1093
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:13,661
San Diego and the governor,

1094
00:31:13,661 --> 00:31:16,610
the current governor of

1095
00:31:16,331 --> 00:31:18,731
California starting JANUARY 1st

1096
00:31:19,634 --> 00:31:20,301
of of the following 27 to 9

1097
00:31:20,301 --> 00:31:21,200
qualifying projects and high

1098
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,536
resource areas is presumed to

1099
00:31:21,536 --> 00:31:23,536
violate the Housing

1100
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:25,707
Accountability Act triggering

1101
00:31:25,707 --> 00:31:26,374
immediate financial penalties

1102
00:31:26,374 --> 00:31:27,750
which is a situation I don't

1103
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:30,278
think any of us want the city

1104
00:31:30,278 --> 00:31:31,346
of San Diego to be in.

1105
00:31:31,346 --> 00:31:32,120
And so our our take on this is

1106
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,412
that correct Correcting this

1107
00:31:36,184 --> 00:31:36,885
interpretation tonight can

1108
00:31:36,885 --> 00:31:37,585
prevent problems, number one.

1109
00:31:37,585 --> 00:31:38,319
And we certainly don't want to

1110
00:31:38,319 --> 00:31:41,319
be in a position where

1111
00:31:41,556 --> 00:31:42,190
the governor attempts to pull

1112
00:31:42,190 --> 00:31:42,823
funding because we're not

1113
00:31:42,823 --> 00:31:45,223
complying with state law.

1114
00:31:50,650 --> 00:31:50,999
Next slide please.

1115
00:31:50,999 --> 00:31:54,803
So we do want to ask you again

1116
00:31:54,803 --> 00:31:55,403
to please consider amending

1117
00:31:55,403 --> 00:31:56,710
recital e of tonight's

1118
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:58,471
ordinance so that it's

1119
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:00,942
consistent with state law and

1120
00:32:00,942 --> 00:32:01,509
that it's consistent with San

1121
00:32:01,509 --> 00:32:03,509
Diego's housing goals.

1122
00:32:08,183 --> 00:32:09,500
Thank you very much.

1123
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:12,500
>> Thank you for your comment.

1124
00:32:14,689 --> 00:32:15,323
Just to just for the record, we

1125
00:32:15,323 --> 00:32:16,570
did receive a speaker slip

1126
00:32:16,570 --> 00:32:19,570
ceding time or to sacrifice

1127
00:32:20,595 --> 00:32:21,630
referral from an.

1128
00:32:21,630 --> 00:32:23,630
Thank you.

1129
00:32:25,766 --> 00:32:26,534
And next speakers Jeff Uter.

1130
00:32:26,534 --> 00:32:27,269
>> Please please make your way

1131
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:31,372
up to the lectern You have time

1132
00:32:31,372 --> 00:32:31,640
ceded to you by Dean to give

1133
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,700
it.

1134
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,700
Thank you.

1135
00:32:36,211 --> 00:32:36,812
Can enrich Marie Yovanovitch.

1136
00:32:36,812 --> 00:32:39,212
Thank you Yvonne Jones.

1137
00:32:41,316 --> 00:32:43,716
Thank you, Pamela Biegel.

1138
00:32:46,454 --> 00:32:46,856
Thank you Kelly Trembling.

1139
00:32:46,856 --> 00:32:48,856
Thank you.

1140
00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:52,127
Gail Villa Monti.

1141
00:32:52,127 --> 00:32:52,561
I see you.

1142
00:32:52,561 --> 00:32:54,561
Thank you.

1143
00:32:57,132 --> 00:32:57,632
Winner.

1144
00:32:57,632 --> 00:32:57,966
Thank you, Angela.

1145
00:32:57,966 --> 00:32:59,966
Grazie.

1146
00:33:02,804 --> 00:33:03,505
Thank you, Luis So Heather.

1147
00:33:03,505 --> 00:33:05,905
Thank you, Corey Farris.

1148
00:33:07,543 --> 00:33:08,900
Thank you, Lori Heller.

1149
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:08,710
>> Thank you.

1150
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:10,710
You'll have 13 minutes.

1151
00:33:12,180 --> 00:33:12,914
Great.

1152
00:33:12,914 --> 00:33:15,314
>> Thank you, Council members.

1153
00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:19,540
And I appreciate you bringing

1154
00:33:19,540 --> 00:33:19,655
this forward this evening.

1155
00:33:19,655 --> 00:33:22,655
I know you're working on

1156
00:33:23,325 --> 00:33:24,590
the budget and we need to get

1157
00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:24,727
this done basically in order to

1158
00:33:24,727 --> 00:33:27,727
meet the JULY 1st deadline.

1159
00:33:28,835 --> 00:33:29,531
And by doing that it retains

1160
00:33:29,531 --> 00:33:32,531
the flexibility that the city

1161
00:33:34,269 --> 00:33:34,969
needs to continue to analyze

1162
00:33:34,969 --> 00:33:35,637
the capacity that we have with

1163
00:33:35,637 --> 00:33:38,637
our existing zoning and our

1164
00:33:40,476 --> 00:33:41,175
existing overlay programs and

1165
00:33:41,175 --> 00:33:44,175
then develop a further transit

1166
00:33:45,481 --> 00:33:45,814
alternative plan and do other

1167
00:33:45,814 --> 00:33:46,515
actions.

1168
00:33:46,515 --> 00:33:50,715
One of the things that I think

1169
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:51,887
is important is that we you

1170
00:33:51,887 --> 00:33:54,287
know, with deference to

1171
00:33:56,891 --> 00:33:57,593
the reference to the previous

1172
00:33:57,593 --> 00:34:00,593
presentation, we don't have a

1173
00:34:00,596 --> 00:34:01,396
final map from sandag yet.

1174
00:34:01,396 --> 00:34:02,970
And I think one of the things

1175
00:34:02,970 --> 00:34:05,970
we've done with the resolution

1176
00:34:06,869 --> 00:34:07,569
and the ordinance is it it is

1177
00:34:07,569 --> 00:34:08,236
flexible as to it being an

1178
00:34:08,236 --> 00:34:10,636
overlay on whatever final

1179
00:34:12,408 --> 00:34:13,275
determination of the map is.

1180
00:34:13,275 --> 00:34:17,475
We think that the city's map is

1181
00:34:17,513 --> 00:34:18,313
generally accurate.

1182
00:34:18,313 --> 00:34:18,914
There will be some adjustment

1183
00:34:18,914 --> 00:34:19,482
because you have to get

1184
00:34:19,482 --> 00:34:21,882
the exact positions of

1185
00:34:23,986 --> 00:34:26,986
the stations and their extents

1186
00:34:27,289 --> 00:34:27,990
identified in order to draw

1187
00:34:27,990 --> 00:34:28,691
the 200ft areas around it,

1188
00:34:28,691 --> 00:34:32,291
the half mile areas around it.

1189
00:34:32,994 --> 00:34:33,662
But in general we think that

1190
00:34:33,662 --> 00:34:37,262
what was presented in the in

1191
00:34:38,133 --> 00:34:38,834
the staff memo is is fairly

1192
00:34:38,834 --> 00:34:39,502
close to what we're going to

1193
00:34:39,502 --> 00:34:43,102
see with with the final map.

1194
00:34:44,540 --> 00:34:45,241
But one of the questions are

1195
00:34:45,241 --> 00:34:48,241
that because we're waiting for

1196
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,713
this final map, what have

1197
00:34:50,713 --> 00:34:51,447
developers do in the interim?

1198
00:34:51,447 --> 00:34:55,647
I mean as soon as the ordinance

1199
00:34:55,918 --> 00:34:56,652
goes into effect and people

1200
00:34:56,652 --> 00:34:59,652
start applying for projects and

1201
00:35:01,123 --> 00:35:01,890
that will be an issue.

1202
00:35:01,890 --> 00:35:02,258
You know, I think it's written

1203
00:35:02,258 --> 00:35:02,892
that way.

1204
00:35:02,892 --> 00:35:06,395
One of the things we are

1205
00:35:06,395 --> 00:35:07,960
unclear about is when we talk

1206
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,960
about the effective date being

1207
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:12,502
30 days from the final adoption

1208
00:35:12,502 --> 00:35:13,336
of the ordinance.

1209
00:35:13,336 --> 00:35:16,336
Does that mean that project

1210
00:35:18,808 --> 00:35:19,475
still aren't allowed to be

1211
00:35:19,475 --> 00:35:20,209
submitted until JULY 1st or

1212
00:35:20,209 --> 00:35:23,209
projects will be submitted even

1213
00:35:24,614 --> 00:35:25,381
before the JULY 1st?

1214
00:35:25,381 --> 00:35:26,820
And so we we'd like some

1215
00:35:26,820 --> 00:35:27,416
clarity to that question just

1216
00:35:27,416 --> 00:35:30,416
to know exactly what we're

1217
00:35:31,287 --> 00:35:33,287
doing there.

1218
00:35:37,927 --> 00:35:38,727
If you go to the next slide I

1219
00:35:38,727 --> 00:35:39,228
think I cover that once you go

1220
00:35:39,228 --> 00:35:41,628
to the next slide.

1221
00:35:43,733 --> 00:35:44,300
>> So in this day and look what

1222
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:44,967
the what the Planning

1223
00:35:44,967 --> 00:35:47,967
Department is proposing is a

1224
00:35:48,738 --> 00:35:49,405
fairly conservative approach to

1225
00:35:49,405 --> 00:35:50,306
this, a measured approach to

1226
00:35:50,306 --> 00:35:54,344
this And I think a lot of noise

1227
00:35:54,344 --> 00:35:54,944
has been made about how either

1228
00:35:54,944 --> 00:35:55,645
the city is shirking its

1229
00:35:55,645 --> 00:35:58,450
responsibility or delaying or

1230
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,160
exempting state law was written

1231
00:36:06,222 --> 00:36:06,956
to allow cities to take a very

1232
00:36:06,956 --> 00:36:07,590
complicated law and implement a

1233
00:36:07,590 --> 00:36:08,191
phased approach And that's

1234
00:36:08,191 --> 00:36:11,191
exactly what the city is

1235
00:36:12,528 --> 00:36:13,363
proposing here.

1236
00:36:13,363 --> 00:36:13,996
So you know, again, we think

1237
00:36:13,996 --> 00:36:16,396
that's the right approach.

1238
00:36:18,668 --> 00:36:19,335
One of the key issues and there

1239
00:36:19,335 --> 00:36:20,690
was insufficient time to do

1240
00:36:20,690 --> 00:36:23,669
the full calculation Is there a

1241
00:36:24,974 --> 00:36:25,642
calculation that you do in

1242
00:36:25,642 --> 00:36:28,642
order to determine how much

1243
00:36:29,812 --> 00:36:30,612
additional density you need to

1244
00:36:30,612 --> 00:36:33,120
create through your transit

1245
00:36:35,985 --> 00:36:36,753
alternative plan?

1246
00:36:36,753 --> 00:36:37,553
And the calculation that's in

1247
00:36:37,553 --> 00:36:41,153
the staff report just shows you

1248
00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:42,910
underlined zone capacity.

1249
00:36:42,910 --> 00:36:44,491
So that's the 494,000 units

1250
00:36:47,830 --> 00:36:48,631
that are already zoned within

1251
00:36:48,631 --> 00:36:50,631
sb 79 areas versus

1252
00:36:52,569 --> 00:36:54,969
the calculated target that 180

1253
00:36:57,207 --> 00:36:57,974
861,000 while that remaining

1254
00:36:57,974 --> 00:36:58,708
367,000 when we get done with

1255
00:36:58,708 --> 00:37:01,708
the with the complete community

1256
00:37:04,347 --> 00:37:05,510
calculation that alone will

1257
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:05,782
probably exceed that 361,000.

1258
00:37:05,782 --> 00:37:09,852
And so what are the things that

1259
00:37:09,852 --> 00:37:10,553
will come out of this is in a

1260
00:37:10,553 --> 00:37:11,221
lot of these transit zones we

1261
00:37:11,221 --> 00:37:13,621
will have already satisfied

1262
00:37:16,526 --> 00:37:17,193
the requirement that sb 79 and

1263
00:37:17,193 --> 00:37:17,828
I think this comes up a lot

1264
00:37:17,828 --> 00:37:21,428
where we say well but we

1265
00:37:21,698 --> 00:37:22,499
haven't built all this but this

1266
00:37:22,499 --> 00:37:22,999
is a zoning process, not a

1267
00:37:22,999 --> 00:37:23,666
building process.

1268
00:37:23,666 --> 00:37:27,266
And so even though it looks

1269
00:37:27,637 --> 00:37:28,371
like we haven't built all this

1270
00:37:28,371 --> 00:37:29,720
capacity that we've created, we

1271
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,720
have created this capacity and

1272
00:37:33,343 --> 00:37:34,430
with all deference to

1273
00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:34,744
the governor, San Diego is way

1274
00:37:34,744 --> 00:37:38,944
ahead of the rest of the state

1275
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:39,983
When it came to creating a

1276
00:37:39,983 --> 00:37:41,983
transit oriented capacity.

1277
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:51,428
If you go to the next slide so

1278
00:37:51,428 --> 00:37:51,995
sb 79 and a lot of ways is like

1279
00:37:51,995 --> 00:37:52,662
complete communities.

1280
00:37:52,662 --> 00:37:56,262
But if you really look at

1281
00:37:56,366 --> 00:37:57,100
the difference complete

1282
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:57,701
communities even in the coastal

1283
00:37:57,701 --> 00:38:00,101
zone exceeds the minimum

1284
00:38:02,939 --> 00:38:03,772
requirements of sb 79.

1285
00:38:03,772 --> 00:38:04,674
And if you go anywhere else in

1286
00:38:04,674 --> 00:38:09,474
the in the city you can look at

1287
00:38:09,646 --> 00:38:13,246
that and then you know that

1288
00:38:14,384 --> 00:38:15,850
area you know Claremont

1289
00:38:15,850 --> 00:38:17,485
University City Mission Valley

1290
00:38:20,991 --> 00:38:21,691
and those areas we already

1291
00:38:21,691 --> 00:38:22,358
allow under sb under complete

1292
00:38:22,358 --> 00:38:24,758
communities we already allow

1293
00:38:27,464 --> 00:38:31,640
for a ratio of 4.0 which is

1294
00:38:31,535 --> 00:38:32,335
actually what the maximum would

1295
00:38:32,335 --> 00:38:33,370
be 200ft from a station under

1296
00:38:33,370 --> 00:38:38,108
sb 79 And we allow if you do a

1297
00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:38,875
rough calculation of assuming

1298
00:38:38,875 --> 00:38:41,875
800 square foot units which is

1299
00:38:42,679 --> 00:38:43,447
fairly generous 160 units per

1300
00:38:43,447 --> 00:38:47,647
acre and in a major area where

1301
00:38:48,151 --> 00:38:48,851
this is going to be impacted

1302
00:38:48,851 --> 00:38:49,152
and that exceeds 140 200ft

1303
00:38:49,152 --> 00:38:51,152
away.

1304
00:38:54,891 --> 00:38:55,592
So there's not something where

1305
00:38:55,592 --> 00:38:56,126
we're preventing housing to be

1306
00:38:56,126 --> 00:38:58,126
built near transit.

1307
00:39:00,397 --> 00:39:01,300
We have something in place to

1308
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:01,632
complete communities which

1309
00:39:01,632 --> 00:39:04,632
satisfies a lot of these

1310
00:39:06,769 --> 00:39:07,571
requirements And so the one

1311
00:39:07,571 --> 00:39:10,571
thing that the sb 79 does

1312
00:39:12,576 --> 00:39:13,276
the complete community does not

1313
00:39:13,276 --> 00:39:14,144
do is that it allows this

1314
00:39:14,144 --> 00:39:17,744
development not just to go into

1315
00:39:18,949 --> 00:39:19,616
minimum density area.

1316
00:39:19,616 --> 00:39:20,484
So complete communities is a

1317
00:39:20,484 --> 00:39:23,484
minimum of 20 units per acre

1318
00:39:25,222 --> 00:39:25,589
and sb 79 doesn't have any

1319
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:27,589
threshold.

1320
00:39:29,893 --> 00:39:30,594
So where sb 79 developments are

1321
00:39:30,594 --> 00:39:31,294
going to leak out and this was

1322
00:39:31,294 --> 00:39:34,294
a big reason for excluding

1323
00:39:35,632 --> 00:39:36,500
the low resource areas here

1324
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:40,100
it's going to leak out to

1325
00:39:41,972 --> 00:39:42,639
the areas that are low density

1326
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:45,639
residential So it's going to

1327
00:39:48,411 --> 00:39:49,113
leak out to your low density

1328
00:39:49,113 --> 00:39:49,880
townhomes that are say low

1329
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,800
three and it's going to go to

1330
00:39:54,885 --> 00:39:55,586
where our duplex homes are and

1331
00:39:55,586 --> 00:39:55,886
are go to our single family

1332
00:39:55,886 --> 00:39:57,886
homes.

1333
00:39:59,623 --> 00:40:00,257
And ironically it won't go

1334
00:40:00,257 --> 00:40:03,257
right next to the transit

1335
00:40:05,796 --> 00:40:06,664
because that will be areas that

1336
00:40:06,664 --> 00:40:10,864
you know be harder to do land

1337
00:40:11,669 --> 00:40:12,369
acquisition and generally have

1338
00:40:12,369 --> 00:40:14,769
higher requirements for other

1339
00:40:18,142 --> 00:40:18,909
other aspects of this If you

1340
00:40:18,909 --> 00:40:19,710
get to mid city not only is

1341
00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:23,310
the area that was shown by

1342
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:24,748
the previous speaker generally

1343
00:40:24,748 --> 00:40:25,516
in low resource areas but it's

1344
00:40:25,516 --> 00:40:28,516
also areas that are already

1345
00:40:30,788 --> 00:40:31,388
covered at a six and a half for

1346
00:40:31,388 --> 00:40:33,388
by complete communities.

1347
00:40:35,993 --> 00:40:36,894
So we're actually asking in

1348
00:40:36,894 --> 00:40:37,427
some ways this 379 as a down

1349
00:40:37,427 --> 00:40:39,427
zoning from complete

1350
00:40:42,566 --> 00:40:43,333
communities in the mid-city

1351
00:40:43,333 --> 00:40:46,470
area And certainly when you get

1352
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:47,405
downtown you know that we're

1353
00:40:47,405 --> 00:40:47,905
going to use sb 79 to build a

1354
00:40:47,905 --> 00:40:48,571
building downtown.

1355
00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:49,140
They don't even use complete

1356
00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:51,140
communities because of

1357
00:40:53,110 --> 00:40:53,811
the significant density that

1358
00:40:53,811 --> 00:40:54,145
we've already created in these

1359
00:40:54,145 --> 00:40:56,145
places.

1360
00:40:58,883 --> 00:40:59,316
So we really done pretty much

1361
00:40:59,316 --> 00:41:00,150
all the work.

1362
00:41:00,150 --> 00:41:00,851
The only thing I have to say

1363
00:41:00,851 --> 00:41:04,451
about the transit stops and we

1364
00:41:04,621 --> 00:41:05,323
actually met with Scott

1365
00:41:05,323 --> 00:41:06,230
Weiner's staff when they were

1366
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:06,724
going through the bill to get

1367
00:41:06,724 --> 00:41:09,724
clarification of this And they

1368
00:41:10,962 --> 00:41:11,662
were clear that they didn't

1369
00:41:11,662 --> 00:41:14,662
consider shared bus bike lanes

1370
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:17,868
to be eligible for sb 79.

1371
00:41:17,868 --> 00:41:18,235
In their mind it was dedicated

1372
00:41:18,235 --> 00:41:19,360
bus lanes.

1373
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,636
The way to think about these

1374
00:41:23,374 --> 00:41:23,975
dedicated bus lanes it's a

1375
00:41:23,975 --> 00:41:26,975
train on tires right is

1376
00:41:28,779 --> 00:41:29,480
the idea is that you create

1377
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,147
this capacity bus capacity so

1378
00:41:30,147 --> 00:41:33,147
that people can quickly move

1379
00:41:35,419 --> 00:41:36,219
along these dedicated bus ways

1380
00:41:36,219 --> 00:41:36,888
not just to get to the next

1381
00:41:36,888 --> 00:41:40,488
block on their street but to

1382
00:41:41,726 --> 00:41:42,593
get to where Jobcentres are And

1383
00:41:42,593 --> 00:41:43,294
just in the same way that we do

1384
00:41:43,294 --> 00:41:46,497
not let bikes on train tracks

1385
00:41:46,497 --> 00:41:47,165
on the trolley tracks the idea

1386
00:41:47,165 --> 00:41:47,832
is that they wouldn't be

1387
00:41:47,832 --> 00:41:48,266
allowed on bus rapid transit

1388
00:41:48,266 --> 00:41:50,266
routes either.

1389
00:41:52,703 --> 00:41:53,437
So again we'll wait to see what

1390
00:41:53,437 --> 00:41:54,138
the final determination is from

1391
00:41:54,138 --> 00:41:57,738
sandag but I think it's still

1392
00:41:58,443 --> 00:41:58,743
going to line closely with

1393
00:41:58,743 --> 00:41:59,510
this.

1394
00:41:59,510 --> 00:42:03,710
>> If you go to the next slide,

1395
00:42:04,715 --> 00:42:05,316
I'm not going to say a lot

1396
00:42:05,316 --> 00:42:06,500
about what the Planning

1397
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:06,784
Commission proposed but I think

1398
00:42:06,784 --> 00:42:10,622
one of the things that's key is

1399
00:42:10,622 --> 00:42:11,356
they again they disregarded

1400
00:42:11,356 --> 00:42:14,356
the capacity that we're already

1401
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:16,794
able to create in these areas

1402
00:42:16,794 --> 00:42:17,528
of complete communities already

1403
00:42:17,528 --> 00:42:21,128
covers all of the transit stops

1404
00:42:22,330 --> 00:42:22,600
that are in and districts

1405
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,000
eight, nine and four.

1406
00:42:28,473 --> 00:42:29,730
And so you know, we think they

1407
00:42:29,730 --> 00:42:29,773
were kind of pushing for

1408
00:42:29,773 --> 00:42:30,408
something that we can already

1409
00:42:30,408 --> 00:42:32,808
accommodate in the interim

1410
00:42:34,345 --> 00:42:34,979
until we have the transit

1411
00:42:34,979 --> 00:42:36,979
oriented alternative plan

1412
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,840
completed.

1413
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:45,790
If you go to the next slide and

1414
00:42:45,790 --> 00:42:46,124
I'll just make one other

1415
00:42:46,124 --> 00:42:46,657
comment.

1416
00:42:46,657 --> 00:42:47,325
You know, again this

1417
00:42:47,325 --> 00:42:49,325
characterization that we're

1418
00:42:50,728 --> 00:42:51,429
that we're sort of slacking off

1419
00:42:51,429 --> 00:42:52,163
with this proposal, you know,

1420
00:42:52,163 --> 00:42:55,763
it just it doesn't hold against

1421
00:42:56,534 --> 00:42:57,202
the fact that we've already

1422
00:42:57,202 --> 00:42:57,836
done this years ahead of

1423
00:42:57,836 --> 00:43:01,436
the rest of the state and

1424
00:43:03,274 --> 00:43:04,800
therefore that gives us I think

1425
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:04,842
the leeway to proceed with this

1426
00:43:04,842 --> 00:43:09,420
in a in a measured and sensible

1427
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:09,748
way.

1428
00:43:09,748 --> 00:43:10,448
Again, just some

1429
00:43:10,448 --> 00:43:12,848
recommendations and again we

1430
00:43:15,186 --> 00:43:15,887
support the ordinance as it's

1431
00:43:15,887 --> 00:43:16,588
being presented to you today.

1432
00:43:16,588 --> 00:43:17,880
We hope that the council will

1433
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,880
move that forward.

1434
00:43:21,627 --> 00:43:22,360
We would like clarification as

1435
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,960
to what the real effective date

1436
00:43:27,198 --> 00:43:27,799
for project is and maybe maybe

1437
00:43:27,799 --> 00:43:28,533
it's already baked into

1438
00:43:28,533 --> 00:43:29,234
the ordinance but it sounded to

1439
00:43:29,234 --> 00:43:34,340
us as if you know you get done

1440
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:34,806
with this now and in two weeks

1441
00:43:34,806 --> 00:43:35,507
you know that it MAY be, you

1442
00:43:35,507 --> 00:43:36,341
know, middle of JUNE before we

1443
00:43:36,341 --> 00:43:39,100
in place Now we're only talking

1444
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:39,610
a couple of weeks at that point

1445
00:43:39,610 --> 00:43:39,978
so maybe it's not super

1446
00:43:39,978 --> 00:43:40,612
material.

1447
00:43:40,612 --> 00:43:43,612
The other thing though to

1448
00:43:45,216 --> 00:43:45,917
consider is what happens if

1449
00:43:45,917 --> 00:43:48,317
the state legislature decides

1450
00:43:51,289 --> 00:43:51,690
to postpone the go live date

1451
00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:52,324
for sb 79?

1452
00:43:52,324 --> 00:43:53,240
There is a bill in

1453
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,424
the legislature that's asking

1454
00:43:56,561 --> 00:43:59,561
that this be extended to

1455
00:44:01,266 --> 00:44:02,100
JANUARY 1st of 2027 And I think

1456
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:02,834
a lot of that is really just a

1457
00:44:02,834 --> 00:44:06,434
recognition of just how hard it

1458
00:44:06,972 --> 00:44:07,639
is to do it and I commend

1459
00:44:07,639 --> 00:44:08,372
the Planning Department for

1460
00:44:08,372 --> 00:44:12,572
being able to get all this work

1461
00:44:13,345 --> 00:44:14,146
done so quickly and putting us

1462
00:44:14,146 --> 00:44:14,880
in a position where we can work

1463
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,480
through the rest of the details

1464
00:44:19,251 --> 00:44:20,180
afterwards.

1465
00:44:20,180 --> 00:44:20,985
There were some I just wanted

1466
00:44:20,985 --> 00:44:25,570
to call out also today or just

1467
00:44:25,570 --> 00:44:25,557
approving the memo and we need

1468
00:44:25,557 --> 00:44:26,325
to get that done.

1469
00:44:26,325 --> 00:44:29,925
I mean they have the ordinance

1470
00:44:30,262 --> 00:44:31,630
and we need to get that done

1471
00:44:31,630 --> 00:44:31,763
And I do think it's worth

1472
00:44:31,763 --> 00:44:35,363
looking back now after we get

1473
00:44:35,734 --> 00:44:36,340
this done at the FEBRUARY 13th

1474
00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:36,868
memo.

1475
00:44:36,868 --> 00:44:37,569
I think there are a lot of good

1476
00:44:37,569 --> 00:44:39,969
suggestions that the Planning

1477
00:44:40,706 --> 00:44:41,372
Department had because we've

1478
00:44:41,372 --> 00:44:42,107
been through the technical

1479
00:44:42,107 --> 00:44:42,974
details of what it means to do

1480
00:44:42,974 --> 00:44:46,574
a one mile walking path to

1481
00:44:47,746 --> 00:44:50,146
transit The staff recommended

1482
00:44:53,251 --> 00:44:53,952
effects that I think addresses

1483
00:44:53,952 --> 00:44:54,553
situation not just during

1484
00:44:54,553 --> 00:44:56,953
the period when we're

1485
00:44:59,358 --> 00:44:59,825
restricting the resource areas

1486
00:44:59,825 --> 00:45:00,826
but beyond that.

1487
00:45:00,826 --> 00:45:05,260
So I just think there's a lot

1488
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:06,198
of thoughtful material in there

1489
00:45:06,198 --> 00:45:10,398
that we think would be good to

1490
00:45:11,303 --> 00:45:12,104
to send forward and you know

1491
00:45:12,104 --> 00:45:15,704
with all things you know we

1492
00:45:17,476 --> 00:45:18,210
there's you you know, kind of

1493
00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:21,810
the concept of of good planning

1494
00:45:23,148 --> 00:45:23,715
and good design and the set up

1495
00:45:23,715 --> 00:45:24,416
input requirements for

1496
00:45:24,416 --> 00:45:26,816
objective design standards in

1497
00:45:28,587 --> 00:45:29,253
these in these in these laws

1498
00:45:29,253 --> 00:45:29,922
And hopefully at some point

1499
00:45:29,922 --> 00:45:33,522
we'll look at those as well.

1500
00:45:35,794 --> 00:45:36,228
Again, I thank you for your

1501
00:45:36,228 --> 00:45:36,929
time tonight.

1502
00:45:36,929 --> 00:45:37,563
Maybe you get more people here

1503
00:45:37,563 --> 00:45:40,563
If you had bobbleheads for

1504
00:45:40,932 --> 00:45:41,633
the council members that might

1505
00:45:41,633 --> 00:45:41,967
be something to consider going

1506
00:45:41,967 --> 00:45:42,634
forward.

1507
00:45:42,634 --> 00:45:45,634
But otherwise thank you for

1508
00:45:46,771 --> 00:45:47,606
your time.

1509
00:45:47,606 --> 00:45:48,407
>> At least you didn't call us

1510
00:45:48,407 --> 00:45:51,407
bobbleheads so I'm grateful for

1511
00:45:52,845 --> 00:45:53,612
that.

1512
00:45:53,612 --> 00:45:54,346
For the fall we have four

1513
00:45:54,346 --> 00:45:54,980
speakers and in-person speakers

1514
00:45:54,980 --> 00:45:57,380
remaining in chambers with

1515
00:45:58,384 --> 00:45:59,840
the following individuals make

1516
00:45:59,840 --> 00:45:59,718
their way to the front seat of

1517
00:45:59,718 --> 00:46:00,520
the chambers that is Paul

1518
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,520
cookin.

1519
00:46:03,956 --> 00:46:06,956
We have allegedly Audra Paul

1520
00:46:09,995 --> 00:46:10,863
Kruger and Mary Soriano Paul

1521
00:46:10,863 --> 00:46:11,630
Cook and you have time ceded to

1522
00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:14,630
you by Christian Anderson Thank

1523
00:46:16,268 --> 00:46:17,102
you.

1524
00:46:17,102 --> 00:46:17,837
Please make your way up to

1525
00:46:17,837 --> 00:46:18,337
the lectern and you MAY proceed

1526
00:46:18,337 --> 00:46:20,337
with your comment.

1527
00:46:22,641 --> 00:46:23,108
You'll have two minutes.

1528
00:46:23,108 --> 00:46:23,542
>> Thank you.

1529
00:46:23,542 --> 00:46:24,143
Good evening.

1530
00:46:24,143 --> 00:46:27,143
My name is Paul Colgan.

1531
00:46:27,812 --> 00:46:28,447
I'm secretary at the City

1532
00:46:28,447 --> 00:46:28,813
Charter Community Planners

1533
00:46:28,813 --> 00:46:29,515
Committee.

1534
00:46:29,515 --> 00:46:32,515
The cpc supports the Planning

1535
00:46:33,486 --> 00:46:34,153
Department's original phased

1536
00:46:34,153 --> 00:46:34,886
implementation approach and

1537
00:46:34,886 --> 00:46:35,488
urges the City council to adopt

1538
00:46:35,488 --> 00:46:36,188
it without the Planning

1539
00:46:36,188 --> 00:46:38,188
Commission's amendments which

1540
00:46:40,793 --> 00:46:41,493
would undermine the city's

1541
00:46:41,493 --> 00:46:42,194
ability to face implementation

1542
00:46:42,194 --> 00:46:44,594
responsibly and measured fees

1543
00:46:46,310 --> 00:46:46,665
in particularly in low resource

1544
00:46:46,665 --> 00:46:47,366
communities and high fire

1545
00:46:47,366 --> 00:46:50,366
severity zones allows the city

1546
00:46:51,937 --> 00:46:52,638
to align infrastructure, safety

1547
00:46:52,638 --> 00:46:53,272
planning and community impacts

1548
00:46:53,272 --> 00:46:55,272
before increasing density.

1549
00:46:59,450 --> 00:46:59,679
San Diego has seen what happens

1550
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:00,412
when density policies are

1551
00:47:00,412 --> 00:47:00,947
implemented too quickly without

1552
00:47:00,947 --> 00:47:02,947
sufficient planning.

1553
00:47:04,216 --> 00:47:04,917
Whether through a bonus

1554
00:47:04,917 --> 00:47:05,651
outcomes or neighborhood level

1555
00:47:05,651 --> 00:47:07,651
parking infrastructure strength

1556
00:47:10,523 --> 00:47:11,900
these are lessons learned not

1557
00:47:11,900 --> 00:47:11,591
obstacles to progress.

1558
00:47:11,591 --> 00:47:12,257
The path is to use

1559
00:47:12,257 --> 00:47:14,657
the flexibility provided to

1560
00:47:16,662 --> 00:47:17,363
implement what state law

1561
00:47:17,363 --> 00:47:17,964
requires and allows including

1562
00:47:17,964 --> 00:47:20,364
the alternate Tommy cpc

1563
00:47:22,768 --> 00:47:23,436
respectfully urges you to adopt

1564
00:47:23,436 --> 00:47:24,135
the staff recommendations as

1565
00:47:24,135 --> 00:47:24,804
proposed without amendment and

1566
00:47:24,804 --> 00:47:27,204
to adjust implementation if

1567
00:47:28,541 --> 00:47:28,878
the State modifies or delays

1568
00:47:28,878 --> 00:47:29,308
the law.

1569
00:47:29,308 --> 00:47:29,975
>> Thank you.

1570
00:47:29,975 --> 00:47:32,975
Thank you for your comment.

1571
00:47:33,379 --> 00:47:33,746
We have our next speaker

1572
00:47:33,746 --> 00:47:35,746
allegedly.

1573
00:47:39,218 --> 00:47:41,618
You'll have one minute.

1574
00:47:46,459 --> 00:47:47,590
>> The other significant You

1575
00:47:47,590 --> 00:47:47,593
guys have four people on

1576
00:47:47,593 --> 00:47:47,994
the dais right now.

1577
00:47:47,994 --> 00:47:49,994
In the back.

1578
00:47:51,897 --> 00:47:52,665
They're in the back.

1579
00:47:52,665 --> 00:47:53,366
>> Again, you don't have a

1580
00:47:53,366 --> 00:47:56,366
quorum or anything about that

1581
00:47:57,704 --> 00:47:58,404
So it is so you can do business

1582
00:47:58,404 --> 00:48:02,400
without a quorum all the time

1583
00:48:02,608 --> 00:48:03,476
on a regular basis.

1584
00:48:03,476 --> 00:48:07,760
>> So you guys continue to do

1585
00:48:08,948 --> 00:48:09,549
business illegally when you

1586
00:48:09,549 --> 00:48:10,215
don't have a quorum.

1587
00:48:10,215 --> 00:48:10,516
I called this out several

1588
00:48:10,516 --> 00:48:11,284
times.

1589
00:48:11,284 --> 00:48:14,220
You've escorted me out by

1590
00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:15,540
the police.

1591
00:48:15,540 --> 00:48:15,788
How are you guys doing business

1592
00:48:15,788 --> 00:48:16,189
like this when you do not have

1593
00:48:16,189 --> 00:48:18,189
a quorum?

1594
00:48:21,260 --> 00:48:21,995
I'd like to use my time

1595
00:48:21,995 --> 00:48:22,697
elsewhere but it's like I don't

1596
00:48:22,697 --> 00:48:26,897
know how many times I need to

1597
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:28,167
see this happen And have you

1598
00:48:28,167 --> 00:48:30,567
continue business When I've

1599
00:48:32,972 --> 00:48:33,306
invoked Robert's Rules of Order

1600
00:48:33,306 --> 00:48:34,700
.

1601
00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:34,741
The police have witnessed this

1602
00:48:34,741 --> 00:48:35,342
and you guys continue business.

1603
00:48:35,342 --> 00:48:38,942
This is why you can't be

1604
00:48:39,379 --> 00:48:40,113
trusted especially when you're

1605
00:48:40,113 --> 00:48:40,847
We're talking about a bill from

1606
00:48:40,847 --> 00:48:41,348
Scott Wiener who's a pedophile.

1607
00:48:41,348 --> 00:48:43,348
That's a problem.

1608
00:48:45,151 --> 00:48:45,752
And the fact that you guys have

1609
00:48:45,752 --> 00:48:46,519
done this time and again

1610
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:50,119
without a quorum thank you for

1611
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:51,457
your time.

1612
00:48:51,457 --> 00:48:52,125
Your time has elapsed.

1613
00:48:52,125 --> 00:48:52,859
You can't address it and say

1614
00:48:52,859 --> 00:48:53,492
that we don't have a quorum and

1615
00:48:53,492 --> 00:48:55,892
we can continue business.

1616
00:48:56,930 --> 00:48:57,330
You literally have to stop

1617
00:48:57,330 --> 00:48:57,931
the meeting.

1618
00:48:57,931 --> 00:48:58,565
>> Please can you please

1619
00:48:58,565 --> 00:49:00,965
address this because this

1620
00:49:02,302 --> 00:49:03,200
continues to happen and it's

1621
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:03,703
illegal for you to continue to

1622
00:49:03,703 --> 00:49:06,703
do business Joe without a

1623
00:49:08,108 --> 00:49:08,808
quorum present at the die is

1624
00:49:08,808 --> 00:49:13,800
not in the back Not going to

1625
00:49:13,613 --> 00:49:14,213
the bathroom at right up here.

1626
00:49:14,213 --> 00:49:14,881
>> I'm serious.

1627
00:49:14,881 --> 00:49:17,881
This is very concerning when

1628
00:49:19,485 --> 00:49:20,186
this is the third time not only

1629
00:49:20,186 --> 00:49:20,487
yesterday you did it three

1630
00:49:20,487 --> 00:49:21,187
times.

1631
00:49:21,187 --> 00:49:21,588
>> Okay, You're going to make

1632
00:49:21,588 --> 00:49:22,221
me do this.

1633
00:49:22,221 --> 00:49:25,221
This is your first, right?

1634
00:49:25,525 --> 00:49:26,225
Because I'm addressing

1635
00:49:26,225 --> 00:49:29,825
the rules of conduct and your

1636
00:49:31,865 --> 00:49:32,265
ability to do business without

1637
00:49:32,265 --> 00:49:32,665
a quorum.

1638
00:49:32,665 --> 00:49:33,400
>> Okay?

1639
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,000
All these people out here are

1640
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,000
patiently spending their

1641
00:49:37,871 --> 00:49:38,505
Thursday night There Can't do

1642
00:49:38,505 --> 00:49:38,838
business like this That is

1643
00:49:38,838 --> 00:49:39,539
illegal.

1644
00:49:39,539 --> 00:49:39,906
>> They have to have by people

1645
00:49:39,906 --> 00:49:40,473
up there.

1646
00:49:40,473 --> 00:49:43,446
Don't make me do this.

1647
00:49:43,446 --> 00:49:44,411
You've made your point.

1648
00:49:44,411 --> 00:49:48,110
>> We're moving on So So are

1649
00:49:49,949 --> 00:49:50,283
you not going to address

1650
00:49:50,283 --> 00:49:51,117
Vivian?

1651
00:49:51,117 --> 00:49:51,485
>> You just left her order out

1652
00:49:51,485 --> 00:49:53,485
a quorum.

1653
00:49:54,453 --> 00:49:55,322
Turn the mike off.

1654
00:49:55,322 --> 00:49:55,889
>> Do you want to be escorted

1655
00:49:55,889 --> 00:49:58,289
out again like Molina?

1656
00:50:00,393 --> 00:50:04,593
You got to keep it And you're

1657
00:50:06,233 --> 00:50:07,670
making me a criminal.

1658
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:07,567
I told you to not do business

1659
00:50:07,567 --> 00:50:09,269
with four people.

1660
00:50:09,269 --> 00:50:10,103
You've made your point.

1661
00:50:10,103 --> 00:50:13,103
I'm going to conduct your

1662
00:50:20,747 --> 00:50:23,147
business in legal detail.

1663
00:50:29,289 --> 00:50:31,858
Yeah, I can get if you want to

1664
00:50:31,858 --> 00:50:32,559
have Like I said, I don't say

1665
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,959
that you're disruptive because

1666
00:50:38,765 --> 00:50:39,730
you work for $17 million.

1667
00:50:39,730 --> 00:50:41,730
Okay?

1668
00:50:44,871 --> 00:50:49,710
You can kick me out of your

1669
00:50:51,177 --> 00:50:51,777
business and you can not be

1670
00:50:51,777 --> 00:50:52,513
detained without parole.

1671
00:50:52,513 --> 00:50:56,113
Why are you going to continuing

1672
00:50:58,285 --> 00:51:01,885
to buy you go through for

1673
00:51:17,538 --> 00:51:17,852
the gentlemen you think you can

1674
00:51:17,852 --> 00:51:18,538
.

1675
00:51:18,538 --> 00:51:19,306
Okay, we're going to leave

1676
00:51:19,306 --> 00:51:22,906
the dais right now and please

1677
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,600
work

1678
00:54:52,754 --> 00:54:54,754
on that number

1679
00:55:10,305 --> 00:55:12,305
and

1680
00:55:46,373 --> 00:55:46,908
the anticipation and okay, five

1681
00:55:46,908 --> 00:55:49,308
minutes is up again.

1682
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:52,747
My apologies to those of you

1683
00:55:52,747 --> 00:55:53,315
who are spending your personal

1684
00:55:53,315 --> 00:55:53,882
time here in chambers.

1685
00:55:53,882 --> 00:55:56,282
>> The recess is over.

1686
00:55:56,652 --> 00:55:56,969
Clerk Please call the roll

1687
00:55:56,969 --> 00:55:58,969
again.

1688
00:56:04,393 --> 00:56:04,793
Councilmember Campbell Campbell

1689
00:56:04,793 --> 00:56:06,793
you're here.

1690
00:56:09,598 --> 00:56:10,132
Councilmember Whitburn

1691
00:56:10,132 --> 00:56:10,766
Councilmember Foster

1692
00:56:10,766 --> 00:56:12,766
Councilmember one Wilpert

1693
00:56:15,236 --> 00:56:15,771
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

1694
00:56:15,771 --> 00:56:16,438
Councilmember Campo

1695
00:56:16,438 --> 00:56:18,438
Councilmember Moreno Present

1696
00:56:18,807 --> 00:56:19,507
Councilmember Abel Rivera and

1697
00:56:19,507 --> 00:56:21,507
Council PRESIDENT MacArthur

1698
00:56:25,347 --> 00:56:25,914
PRESIDENT All right with that I

1699
00:56:25,914 --> 00:56:26,615
think we were still in

1700
00:56:26,615 --> 00:56:26,949
the middle of public comment,

1701
00:56:26,949 --> 00:56:28,949
correct?

1702
00:56:31,253 --> 00:56:31,920
>> We have two speakers left in

1703
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:32,254
chambers starting with Paul

1704
00:56:32,254 --> 00:56:34,254
Kruger.

1705
00:56:36,925 --> 00:56:37,726
Please come up to the lectern

1706
00:56:37,726 --> 00:56:40,462
You have time ceded to you by

1707
00:56:40,462 --> 00:56:43,462
Sage Gonzales Walden Thank you

1708
00:56:47,169 --> 00:56:47,803
Dorothy James and Mary Young.

1709
00:56:47,803 --> 00:56:50,203
You'll have four minutes.

1710
00:56:52,541 --> 00:56:52,941
Please proceed.

1711
00:56:52,941 --> 00:56:53,709
Thank you.

1712
00:56:53,709 --> 00:56:57,309
Well, first I just wanted to

1713
00:56:58,781 --> 00:56:59,414
make a clarification on

1714
00:56:59,414 --> 00:57:00,149
the write in comments that

1715
00:57:00,149 --> 00:57:03,149
you've received As a clerk

1716
00:57:04,686 --> 00:57:05,387
noted earlier received 219

1717
00:57:05,387 --> 00:57:08,987
comments in favor of the staff

1718
00:57:11,260 --> 00:57:11,360
proposed phasing and 19

1719
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,360
opposed.

1720
00:57:17,980 --> 00:57:17,766
But if you look at the 19, only

1721
00:57:17,766 --> 00:57:18,367
five of them actually oppose

1722
00:57:18,367 --> 00:57:21,367
the phase in and support

1723
00:57:22,504 --> 00:57:24,904
the full and immediate

1724
00:57:26,842 --> 00:57:27,743
implementation of sb 79 At

1725
00:57:27,743 --> 00:57:28,610
least ten of those in fact are

1726
00:57:28,610 --> 00:57:32,210
writing to say they oppose any

1727
00:57:33,516 --> 00:57:34,383
implementation of sb 79.

1728
00:57:34,383 --> 00:57:38,583
So just to clarify that, I just

1729
00:57:39,455 --> 00:57:40,189
want to make a couple of

1730
00:57:40,189 --> 00:57:40,823
general points based on lessons

1731
00:57:40,823 --> 00:57:43,823
learned from the six years

1732
00:57:44,727 --> 00:57:45,494
we've been trying to talk about

1733
00:57:45,494 --> 00:57:46,261
how to sanely grow San Diego.

1734
00:57:46,261 --> 00:57:50,461
The first is any time we hear

1735
00:57:51,734 --> 00:57:52,434
about a half mile or anything

1736
00:57:52,434 --> 00:57:56,340
that the crow flies we should

1737
00:57:57,506 --> 00:57:58,274
not be talking that way.

1738
00:57:58,274 --> 00:57:58,941
We know that from our

1739
00:57:58,941 --> 00:58:01,341
experience in Claremont and

1740
00:58:03,779 --> 00:58:04,480
Granville where I live in San

1741
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,247
Diego Talmage that a half mile

1742
00:58:05,247 --> 00:58:09,447
as the crow flies can mean a

1743
00:58:10,252 --> 00:58:10,920
mile and a half as anybody

1744
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:11,286
could get from one place to

1745
00:58:11,286 --> 00:58:13,286
the other.

1746
00:58:15,491 --> 00:58:16,920
And I just think it's important

1747
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,492
that we acknowledge that

1748
00:58:21,464 --> 00:58:22,640
Problem number two, it took us

1749
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,464
six years to persuade

1750
00:58:27,970 --> 00:58:28,604
the council about the problems

1751
00:58:28,604 --> 00:58:29,272
of the overzealous

1752
00:58:29,272 --> 00:58:31,672
implementation of the bonus

1753
00:58:33,743 --> 00:58:37,343
radio program And we all know

1754
00:58:37,713 --> 00:58:38,380
that it wasn't until

1755
00:58:38,380 --> 00:58:40,780
the District four homeowners

1756
00:58:44,253 --> 00:58:47,253
and renters faced the reality

1757
00:58:48,858 --> 00:58:49,592
of ten, 12, 14, 1735, 103

1758
00:58:49,592 --> 00:58:50,359
backyard units and these people

1759
00:58:50,359 --> 00:58:53,959
of color and these people of

1760
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:55,932
moderate to low income came

1761
00:58:55,932 --> 00:58:59,532
forward and said not in our

1762
00:59:00,570 --> 00:59:01,270
backyard.

1763
00:59:01,270 --> 00:59:03,670
And Councilmember Foster took

1764
00:59:05,775 --> 00:59:06,409
up their cry and persuaded five

1765
00:59:06,409 --> 00:59:07,243
of you that this voluntary

1766
00:59:07,243 --> 00:59:10,843
program was wrong and it needed

1767
00:59:11,514 --> 00:59:12,281
to be reined in.

1768
00:59:12,281 --> 00:59:13,490
And I think the lesson learned

1769
00:59:13,490 --> 00:59:17,249
from that is that we have to

1770
00:59:17,686 --> 00:59:18,388
give very, very much thought

1771
00:59:18,388 --> 00:59:21,388
and deliberation to what we're

1772
00:59:23,626 --> 00:59:24,293
doing when we make rules or

1773
00:59:24,293 --> 00:59:26,693
incentives for builders that

1774
00:59:29,599 --> 00:59:30,400
allow them to build

1775
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,400
developments of this size and

1776
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,604
mass this sb 79 which I opposed

1777
00:59:41,144 --> 00:59:41,844
would allow within a half a

1778
00:59:41,844 --> 00:59:45,444
mile of a transit stop someone

1779
00:59:46,282 --> 00:59:46,983
to build a 5 or 6 story

1780
00:59:46,983 --> 00:59:47,650
apartment building on a block

1781
00:59:47,650 --> 00:59:50,650
of single family homes that

1782
00:59:52,455 --> 00:59:53,222
already don't have enough

1783
00:59:53,222 --> 00:59:57,422
parking in cul de sacs And this

1784
00:59:58,895 --> 00:59:59,562
has a devastating impact on

1785
00:59:59,562 --> 01:00:00,229
these neighborhoods And you

1786
01:00:00,229 --> 01:00:03,229
have heard firsthand in such

1787
01:00:04,434 --> 01:00:05,101
persuasive language that

1788
01:00:05,101 --> 01:00:05,768
the most ardent supporter of

1789
01:00:05,768 --> 01:00:08,168
high density COUNCILMAN Eli

1790
01:00:11,174 --> 01:00:11,741
Rivera referred to these

1791
01:00:11,741 --> 01:00:13,741
builders as predators.

1792
01:00:16,479 --> 01:00:17,213
Lastly, I'd like to thank

1793
01:00:17,213 --> 01:00:17,847
the Planning Department for its

1794
01:00:17,847 --> 01:00:20,247
deliberate review and its

1795
01:00:23,253 --> 01:00:23,953
recommendations and I'd like to

1796
01:00:23,953 --> 01:00:24,754
thank all of you for listening

1797
01:00:24,754 --> 01:00:28,354
to what the community has to

1798
01:00:28,991 --> 01:00:29,859
say.

1799
01:00:29,859 --> 01:00:34,590
And I'd like just in my closing

1800
01:00:34,970 --> 01:00:34,764
words to remind you that

1801
01:00:34,764 --> 01:00:35,465
building near transit in San

1802
01:00:35,465 --> 01:00:39,650
Diego does not mean you don't

1803
01:00:40,837 --> 01:00:41,537
have a car.

1804
01:00:41,537 --> 01:00:43,937
It's just common sense.

1805
01:00:46,876 --> 01:00:47,744
3 to 5% of people can do

1806
01:00:47,744 --> 01:00:48,244
without a car here or forced to

1807
01:00:48,244 --> 01:00:48,977
do without a car.

1808
01:00:48,977 --> 01:00:53,177
If you want to build big, build

1809
01:00:53,883 --> 01:00:54,284
big but don't say people don't

1810
01:00:54,284 --> 01:00:55,170
need a car.

1811
01:00:55,170 --> 01:00:55,986
>> Thank you for your comment

1812
01:00:55,986 --> 01:00:58,986
And our final speaker in

1813
01:01:02,959 --> 01:01:03,659
chambers is Mary Soriano.

1814
01:01:03,659 --> 01:01:04,127
Mary, you'll have one minute.

1815
01:01:04,127 --> 01:01:06,127
Please proceed.

1816
01:01:08,697 --> 01:01:09,399
Mary three on El Presidente

1817
01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:10,330
your town council San Diego a

1818
01:01:10,330 --> 01:01:12,330
very critical crossroads.

1819
01:01:15,372 --> 01:01:18,372
Sb 79 at least 65ft high 120

1820
01:01:19,750 --> 01:01:19,743
unit times that by nine city

1821
01:01:19,743 --> 01:01:21,743
council members equals 1080

1822
01:01:23,947 --> 01:01:24,581
units for one transit oriented

1823
01:01:24,581 --> 01:01:26,581
development per district.

1824
01:01:29,752 --> 01:01:30,553
Super conservative numbers Our

1825
01:01:30,553 --> 01:01:31,154
city faces an $8 billion five

1826
01:01:31,154 --> 01:01:33,154
year capital improvement

1827
01:01:35,858 --> 01:01:36,726
project funding deficit.

1828
01:01:36,726 --> 01:01:40,926
And every day we delay that gap

1829
01:01:41,897 --> 01:01:42,565
grows wider while our streets,

1830
01:01:42,565 --> 01:01:43,200
our roads, pipes and public

1831
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:43,600
infrastructure continue to

1832
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,600
deteriorate.

1833
01:01:47,971 --> 01:01:48,672
This is your moment.

1834
01:01:48,672 --> 01:01:49,373
You have the responsibility to

1835
01:01:49,373 --> 01:01:50,730
make recommendations that are

1836
01:01:50,730 --> 01:01:52,473
thoughtful, safe and fiscally

1837
01:01:54,845 --> 01:01:55,212
honest with the residents who

1838
01:01:55,212 --> 01:01:55,746
trust you.

1839
01:01:55,746 --> 01:01:56,379
San Diegans deserve

1840
01:01:56,379 --> 01:01:58,379
infrastructure that works.

1841
01:02:00,483 --> 01:02:01,217
They deserve streets they can

1842
01:02:01,217 --> 01:02:01,952
drive safely Water systems that

1843
01:02:01,952 --> 01:02:04,952
don't fail, electric grids that

1844
01:02:06,857 --> 01:02:07,491
don't become overloaded and

1845
01:02:07,491 --> 01:02:08,125
public spaces that reflect

1846
01:02:08,125 --> 01:02:11,725
the city with fire to be.

1847
01:02:12,663 --> 01:02:13,463
Thank you for your comment.

1848
01:02:13,463 --> 01:02:13,831
This concludes in-person public

1849
01:02:13,831 --> 01:02:14,464
testimony.

1850
01:02:14,464 --> 01:02:15,132
I will now start the five

1851
01:02:15,132 --> 01:02:18,132
minute timer for the virtual

1852
01:02:19,336 --> 01:02:19,936
queue going to those

1853
01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:20,504
participating remotely.

1854
01:02:20,504 --> 01:02:21,238
Currently there are 13

1855
01:02:21,238 --> 01:02:23,774
individuals with their hands up

1856
01:02:23,774 --> 01:02:26,774
wishing to speak starting with

1857
01:02:30,647 --> 01:02:31,682
Adrian Chowdhry.

1858
01:02:31,682 --> 01:02:35,282
I've asked you to unmute We'll

1859
01:02:35,285 --> 01:02:35,719
have one minute from now.

1860
01:02:35,719 --> 01:02:37,719
Good evening.

1861
01:02:46,296 --> 01:02:46,730
I would like to.

1862
01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:48,730
Good evening.

1863
01:02:52,703 --> 01:02:53,403
I think this this is becoming

1864
01:02:53,403 --> 01:02:56,403
an implementation by the city

1865
01:02:58,108 --> 01:02:58,842
is very is a bit disappointing

1866
01:02:58,842 --> 01:03:02,442
that it doesn't include the bus

1867
01:03:04,748 --> 01:03:05,416
stops that are on clearly

1868
01:03:05,416 --> 01:03:06,150
obvious bus lanes on Elkhorn

1869
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:06,816
Boulevard and University Avenue

1870
01:03:06,816 --> 01:03:09,816
that should be included from

1871
01:03:10,688 --> 01:03:11,388
the get go and we should not

1872
01:03:11,388 --> 01:03:14,291
have to wait for the state to

1873
01:03:14,291 --> 01:03:14,891
come back and say that we're

1874
01:03:14,891 --> 01:03:15,626
violating sb 39 because

1875
01:03:15,626 --> 01:03:19,826
the city is refusing to look at

1876
01:03:21,432 --> 01:03:23,832
it properly although that 70%

1877
01:03:25,769 --> 01:03:26,503
of zone zones having to wait

1878
01:03:26,503 --> 01:03:27,710
until 2031 to be considered.

1879
01:03:27,710 --> 01:03:29,471
It's kind of pathetic.

1880
01:03:32,676 --> 01:03:33,410
I hope the I hope that

1881
01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:34,111
the board and the council would

1882
01:03:34,111 --> 01:03:34,412
reconsider the implementation

1883
01:03:34,412 --> 01:03:36,412
plan.

1884
01:03:37,681 --> 01:03:38,348
Thank you.

1885
01:03:38,348 --> 01:03:39,116
Thank you for your comment.

1886
01:03:39,116 --> 01:03:39,451
Our next speaker up is Leaf

1887
01:03:39,451 --> 01:03:41,451
concert.

1888
01:03:47,591 --> 01:03:47,925
You have one minute for

1889
01:03:47,925 --> 01:03:49,925
concert.

1890
01:03:54,498 --> 01:03:55,266
I've allowed you to talk.

1891
01:03:55,266 --> 01:03:58,266
>> I cannot move for you.

1892
01:03:58,838 --> 01:03:59,135
Star six five Accept.

1893
01:03:59,135 --> 01:03:59,570
Yeah.

1894
01:03:59,570 --> 01:04:00,171
Good evening.

1895
01:04:00,171 --> 01:04:00,837
My name is my friends.

1896
01:04:00,837 --> 01:04:03,837
I'm the vice PRESIDENT All

1897
01:04:06,110 --> 01:04:06,776
the right as the I'm right at

1898
01:04:06,776 --> 01:04:07,411
the policy function that was

1899
01:04:07,411 --> 01:04:10,411
sent out to city council

1900
01:04:13,170 --> 01:04:13,717
beforehand and all the groups

1901
01:04:13,717 --> 01:04:16,219
else I thought I'm just going

1902
01:04:16,219 --> 01:04:16,887
to take some all kinds of

1903
01:04:16,887 --> 01:04:17,555
backgrounds And we all urged

1904
01:04:17,555 --> 01:04:18,155
the City council to adopt a

1905
01:04:18,155 --> 01:04:20,155
proper interpretation of

1906
01:04:24,995 --> 01:04:25,363
the bus lanes which is done

1907
01:04:25,363 --> 01:04:26,630
full time.

1908
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:29,200
Boston's not just one of our

1909
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:29,899
extended sample of all have

1910
01:04:29,899 --> 01:04:30,568
alcohol and University Avenue

1911
01:04:30,568 --> 01:04:34,168
and the proper bus lanes we

1912
01:04:35,172 --> 01:04:35,740
need housing desperately need

1913
01:04:35,740 --> 01:04:36,374
housing everywhere and

1914
01:04:36,374 --> 01:04:39,374
the transit system can get

1915
01:04:41,746 --> 01:04:42,380
people to willing to go there.

1916
01:04:42,380 --> 01:04:43,114
There's enough capital and

1917
01:04:43,114 --> 01:04:46,714
capacity and it's not enough to

1918
01:04:48,180 --> 01:04:48,886
be public transport.

1919
01:04:48,886 --> 01:04:49,587
I also asked people and you on

1920
01:04:49,587 --> 01:04:50,188
this topic and you don't want

1921
01:04:50,188 --> 01:04:52,924
to get into lots some of

1922
01:04:52,924 --> 01:04:53,558
the states it's going to be

1923
01:04:53,558 --> 01:04:54,192
costly and we're trusting

1924
01:04:54,192 --> 01:04:56,192
efficient cities implement

1925
01:05:00,631 --> 01:05:01,332
the best the best bus route

1926
01:05:01,332 --> 01:05:01,966
information best possible Also

1927
01:05:01,966 --> 01:05:03,000
on the commission we took

1928
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:07,200
center at the time I'm going to

1929
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:08,406
be 79 city wide until 22 set up

1930
01:05:08,406 --> 01:05:09,730
.

1931
01:05:09,730 --> 01:05:09,440
Our next speaker is Victoria

1932
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,440
Brousseau.

1933
01:05:13,511 --> 01:05:14,211
You'll have one minute.

1934
01:05:14,211 --> 01:05:14,545
>> Please proceed with your

1935
01:05:14,545 --> 01:05:14,978
comment.

1936
01:05:14,978 --> 01:05:16,978
Good evening.

1937
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:20,785
This is Victoria Brazeau, chair

1938
01:05:20,785 --> 01:05:21,285
of the cbc still looking for a

1939
01:05:21,285 --> 01:05:22,190
seat at the table.

1940
01:05:22,190 --> 01:05:26,219
I would have come in person but

1941
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:27,910
has told me it would take an

1942
01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:27,792
hour so the bottle heads must

1943
01:05:27,792 --> 01:05:30,792
be popular, Bill ponders Paul

1944
01:05:30,895 --> 01:05:31,596
Coogan provided cbc

1945
01:05:31,596 --> 01:05:31,896
the official comment Thank you

1946
01:05:31,896 --> 01:05:32,496
Paul.

1947
01:05:32,496 --> 01:05:33,131
But I want to emphasize

1948
01:05:33,131 --> 01:05:36,131
the main issue tonight is

1949
01:05:36,668 --> 01:05:37,336
whether implementation of sb 79

1950
01:05:37,336 --> 01:05:38,200
will be done responsibly.

1951
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:38,603
Communities across San Diego

1952
01:05:38,603 --> 01:05:40,603
have already experienced

1953
01:05:42,974 --> 01:05:43,541
the unintended consequences of

1954
01:05:43,541 --> 01:05:44,142
land use changes being

1955
01:05:44,142 --> 01:05:44,809
implemented faster than

1956
01:05:44,809 --> 01:05:46,809
infrastructure and community

1957
01:05:49,847 --> 01:05:50,448
planning could keep pace.

1958
01:05:50,448 --> 01:05:51,148
For example, the impacts

1959
01:05:51,148 --> 01:05:53,548
associated with Footnote seven

1960
01:05:54,818 --> 01:05:55,153
and the city's 8080 bonus

1961
01:05:55,153 --> 01:05:55,753
program.

1962
01:05:55,753 --> 01:05:56,287
That is why the Planning

1963
01:05:56,287 --> 01:05:58,287
Department's phased

1964
01:06:01,159 --> 01:06:01,826
implementation approach matters

1965
01:06:01,826 --> 01:06:02,560
especially in very high fire

1966
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:03,127
severity zones and low resource

1967
01:06:03,127 --> 01:06:05,127
resource communities.

1968
01:06:07,650 --> 01:06:07,732
I respectfully urge the City

1969
01:06:07,732 --> 01:06:08,298
Council to support the staff

1970
01:06:08,298 --> 01:06:08,933
recommendation without

1971
01:06:08,933 --> 01:06:10,933
the Planning Commission's

1972
01:06:13,104 --> 01:06:13,705
requested amendments.

1973
01:06:13,705 --> 01:06:14,305
Thank you very much.

1974
01:06:14,305 --> 01:06:14,972
Have a great evening.

1975
01:06:14,972 --> 01:06:17,972
Thank you for your comment.

1976
01:06:18,509 --> 01:06:19,110
Our next speakers Blair Bateman

1977
01:06:19,110 --> 01:06:19,777
You'll have one minute.

1978
01:06:19,777 --> 01:06:22,177
Please proceed with your

1979
01:06:25,149 --> 01:06:25,617
comment.

1980
01:06:25,617 --> 01:06:25,917
>> All right.

1981
01:06:25,917 --> 01:06:26,785
Where?

1982
01:06:26,785 --> 01:06:29,785
Bateman I'm just more listening

1983
01:06:30,388 --> 01:06:31,221
on this item.

1984
01:06:31,221 --> 01:06:31,956
I wanted to say that I'm here

1985
01:06:31,956 --> 01:06:34,356
participating and listening and

1986
01:06:37,228 --> 01:06:38,960
interesting public comment.

1987
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:38,797
I'd be interested to hear what

1988
01:06:38,797 --> 01:06:42,397
City Council will have to say

1989
01:06:42,634 --> 01:06:43,368
on this item.

1990
01:06:43,368 --> 01:06:44,340
I really good luck in working

1991
01:06:44,340 --> 01:06:44,669
on truly affordable housing

1992
01:06:44,669 --> 01:06:47,669
with this item and for

1993
01:06:49,574 --> 01:06:52,574
the Claremont and College areas

1994
01:06:54,579 --> 01:06:55,279
and upcoming needs here and I'm

1995
01:06:55,279 --> 01:06:55,980
really a big fan of mixed

1996
01:06:55,980 --> 01:06:56,681
income housing that can bring

1997
01:06:56,681 --> 01:07:00,281
all levels of income into a

1998
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:01,786
building.

1999
01:07:01,786 --> 01:07:02,487
I don't think we've quite

2000
01:07:02,487 --> 01:07:03,221
explored that concept enough.

2001
01:07:03,221 --> 01:07:03,655
Hopefully we can start thinking

2002
01:07:03,655 --> 01:07:05,655
of that more.

2003
01:07:06,424 --> 01:07:07,125
I think it can offer a lot

2004
01:07:07,125 --> 01:07:07,858
better future flexible choices

2005
01:07:07,858 --> 01:07:10,858
and good choices for ourselves.

2006
01:07:12,496 --> 01:07:13,298
So good luck with that and I

2007
01:07:13,298 --> 01:07:13,898
think we do have to work on

2008
01:07:13,898 --> 01:07:16,898
the quorum issues a bit.

2009
01:07:16,901 --> 01:07:17,536
I think there has to be at

2010
01:07:17,536 --> 01:07:18,370
least five people even if

2011
01:07:18,370 --> 01:07:22,570
you're going in the back to do

2012
01:07:24,109 --> 01:07:24,609
things right there has to be

2013
01:07:24,609 --> 01:07:25,243
five on the dias.

2014
01:07:25,243 --> 01:07:25,911
I can write you a letter.

2015
01:07:25,911 --> 01:07:26,545
We can talk more about this.

2016
01:07:26,545 --> 01:07:29,214
Let's hope we work on it.

2017
01:07:29,214 --> 01:07:29,881
Thank you.

2018
01:07:29,881 --> 01:07:30,248
Thank you for your comment

2019
01:07:30,248 --> 01:07:30,949
before me.

2020
01:07:30,949 --> 01:07:33,170
Next before we go to the next

2021
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:33,652
speaker, I'd like to know that

2022
01:07:33,652 --> 01:07:34,219
the five minute timer has

2023
01:07:34,219 --> 01:07:34,853
expired and we have 11

2024
01:07:34,853 --> 01:07:37,253
individuals in the queue.

2025
01:07:38,757 --> 01:07:39,490
No other speakers will be taken

2026
01:07:39,490 --> 01:07:43,690
for this item The next the next

2027
01:07:44,696 --> 01:07:45,396
individual Spring Springs.

2028
01:07:45,396 --> 01:07:48,396
You'll have one minute Please

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01:07:50,755 --> 01:07:51,422
proceed to your comment.

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01:07:51,422 --> 01:07:51,788
Heather My name is Tim

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01:07:51,788 --> 01:07:52,522
Bernstein.

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01:07:52,522 --> 01:07:53,257
I'm glad that we are addressing

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01:07:53,257 --> 01:07:56,260
Gaspe 79 in the city and I want

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01:07:56,260 --> 01:07:56,827
to say a few things.

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01:07:56,827 --> 01:07:57,261
First we should accelerate all

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01:07:57,261 --> 01:07:57,928
of the delays.

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01:07:57,928 --> 01:07:58,195
We should not be delaying sb

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01:07:58,195 --> 01:08:00,195
79.

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:02,766
We need the housing capacity to

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01:08:02,766 --> 01:08:03,133
be unlocked as soon as

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01:08:03,133 --> 01:08:03,801
possible.

2042
01:08:03,801 --> 01:08:04,501
That means the low resource

2043
01:08:04,501 --> 01:08:07,501
areas need to be accelerated.

2044
01:08:07,505 --> 01:08:08,305
Additionally, as you do,

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01:08:08,305 --> 01:08:08,706
Democrats did a great job of

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01:08:08,706 --> 01:08:09,306
explaining.

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01:08:09,306 --> 01:08:09,940
We also need to include

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01:08:09,940 --> 01:08:12,340
the University Avenue Park

2049
01:08:15,178 --> 01:08:15,846
Boulevard and Oklahoma

2050
01:08:15,846 --> 01:08:16,413
Boulevard bus lanes as well.

2051
01:08:16,413 --> 01:08:17,114
They are included in

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01:08:17,114 --> 01:08:17,548
the definition actually called

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01:08:17,548 --> 01:08:19,548
Star witness.

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01:08:20,417 --> 01:08:21,118
I was myself and they told me

2055
01:08:21,118 --> 01:08:21,519
it should be included in their

2056
01:08:21,519 --> 01:08:22,253
clean bill.

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01:08:22,253 --> 01:08:22,920
They would have an amended that

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01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:23,521
would include explicitly it

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01:08:23,521 --> 01:08:23,854
goes with the spirit of

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01:08:23,854 --> 01:08:25,854
the law.

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01:08:26,257 --> 01:08:26,991
This is not a loophole is

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01:08:26,991 --> 01:08:27,659
absolutely what was intended by

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01:08:27,659 --> 01:08:28,590
the lawmakers when they were

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01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:30,590
legislating.

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01:08:31,930 --> 01:08:32,530
Additionally the infrastructure

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01:08:32,530 --> 01:08:33,364
is already up to par.

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01:08:33,364 --> 01:08:33,998
This area was down zoned in 80s

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01:08:33,998 --> 01:08:36,398
and the infrastructure was

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01:08:37,468 --> 01:08:38,102
built up with the intention of

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01:08:38,102 --> 01:08:38,502
high density housing from

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01:08:38,502 --> 01:08:39,700
the get go.

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01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:39,737
So any arguments that

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01:08:39,737 --> 01:08:41,737
the infrastructure wouldn't

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01:08:44,108 --> 01:08:44,409
support this is probably false

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01:08:44,409 --> 01:08:45,142
.

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01:08:45,142 --> 01:08:45,843
We also need to unlock this

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01:08:45,843 --> 01:08:46,510
housing capacity because it's

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01:08:46,510 --> 01:08:47,178
free money for the city from

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01:08:47,178 --> 01:08:50,114
taxes because it's closer to

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01:08:50,114 --> 01:08:50,782
the city and denser it's more

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01:08:50,782 --> 01:08:51,448
tax efficient and therefore

2082
01:08:51,448 --> 01:08:52,830
better for the city and more

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01:08:52,830 --> 01:08:55,830
for you for your comment.

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01:08:55,687 --> 01:08:56,354
Your time has elapsed Going to

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01:08:56,354 --> 01:08:56,954
the next speaker Sharon Gill

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you'll have one minute.

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01:09:02,590 --> 01:09:02,726
Please proceed.

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01:09:02,726 --> 01:09:05,726
My name is Sharing Dale.

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01:09:08,566 --> 01:09:09,267
I went after the city council

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01:09:09,267 --> 01:09:10,101
pass this ordinance When they

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01:09:10,101 --> 01:09:14,500
start to look at high fliers of

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01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:14,639
the historic resources we need

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01:09:14,639 --> 01:09:17,639
to put public safety first

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01:09:20,512 --> 01:09:21,145
The safest buildings in a park

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01:09:21,145 --> 01:09:21,812
or the newest ones because

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01:09:21,812 --> 01:09:24,812
they're built to strict new

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01:09:25,783 --> 01:09:26,484
fire codes The most dangerous

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01:09:26,484 --> 01:09:27,184
buildings are the oldest ones

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01:09:27,184 --> 01:09:30,784
go to old codes old craftsman

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01:09:32,423 --> 01:09:33,124
homes where the most likely to

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01:09:33,124 --> 01:09:33,791
burn in the fire because they

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01:09:33,791 --> 01:09:36,191
have flammable wood siding,

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01:09:37,562 --> 01:09:38,196
single pane windows shattered

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01:09:38,196 --> 01:09:38,596
And why these They caught

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01:09:38,596 --> 01:09:39,364
the flames.

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01:09:39,364 --> 01:09:42,964
We need to allow owners of

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01:09:43,435 --> 01:09:44,350
historic resources to replace

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01:09:44,350 --> 01:09:44,635
single pane windows and

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01:09:44,635 --> 01:09:47,350
flammable wood siding or

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01:09:49,974 --> 01:09:50,542
replace the whole building with

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01:09:50,542 --> 01:09:51,209
a safer new building.

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01:09:51,209 --> 01:09:54,209
The larger the percentage of

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01:09:55,613 --> 01:09:56,281
new buildings in

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01:09:56,281 --> 01:09:56,948
the neighborhood, the safer

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01:09:56,948 --> 01:09:57,248
the neighborhood will be in

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01:09:57,248 --> 01:09:57,915
fire.

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01:09:57,915 --> 01:10:00,915
It's another form of herd

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01:10:01,419 --> 01:10:02,870
immunity.

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01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:02,853
The city needs to put public

2120
01:10:02,853 --> 01:10:05,853
safety first by allowing safer

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01:10:07,692 --> 01:10:08,360
housing for public transit.

2122
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:08,927
Thank you for your comment.

2123
01:10:08,927 --> 01:10:11,327
Your time has elapsed.

2124
01:10:13,198 --> 01:10:13,798
Our next speaker is Shaquille.

2125
01:10:13,798 --> 01:10:14,532
You'll have one minute.

2126
01:10:14,532 --> 01:10:16,932
Please proceed with your

2127
01:10:18,770 --> 01:10:20,770
comment.

2128
01:10:26,378 --> 01:10:26,716
Shaquille have allowed you to

2129
01:10:26,716 --> 01:10:27,345
talk.

2130
01:10:27,345 --> 01:10:28,313
I cannot me for you Please

2131
01:10:28,313 --> 01:10:31,816
press star six if you are on

2132
01:10:31,816 --> 01:10:32,830
the phone I'm sorry to hear me

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01:10:32,830 --> 01:10:32,350
now.

2134
01:10:32,350 --> 01:10:32,818
Yes.

2135
01:10:32,818 --> 01:10:34,818
Please proceed.

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01:10:38,256 --> 01:10:42,456
I am a 30 year resident of San

2137
01:10:43,261 --> 01:10:43,894
Diego and I support the we

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01:10:43,894 --> 01:10:44,496
change the wording around

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01:10:44,496 --> 01:10:45,230
the bus stations around

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01:10:45,230 --> 01:10:47,630
University Oklahoma to maximize

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01:10:49,468 --> 01:10:50,201
the amount of housing there.

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01:10:50,201 --> 01:10:50,869
San Diego is currently losing

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01:10:50,869 --> 01:10:53,269
population and middle class

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01:10:55,540 --> 01:10:56,241
That's a middle class Schools

2145
01:10:56,241 --> 01:10:56,842
are losing children They can't

2146
01:10:56,842 --> 01:10:59,242
really without really no

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01:11:01,546 --> 01:11:02,247
children support the current

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01:11:02,247 --> 01:11:05,247
budgets turned budget step by

2149
01:11:08,186 --> 01:11:08,920
money to get to the schools

2150
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:09,621
allowing more more people a lot

2151
01:11:09,621 --> 01:11:12,621
more houses around more trains

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01:11:13,425 --> 01:11:14,126
and a lot more families to send

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01:11:14,126 --> 01:11:14,826
each other to school by

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01:11:14,826 --> 01:11:15,661
bathrooms, by trolley routes.

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01:11:15,661 --> 01:11:19,164
And there are a lot of schools

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01:11:19,164 --> 01:11:19,498
for not that far from trolley

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01:11:19,498 --> 01:11:21,498
routes.

2158
01:11:25,904 --> 01:11:30,704
I have a a for which the reward

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01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:31,643
for the rewarding of certain

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01:11:31,643 --> 01:11:32,100
the certain language in

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01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:32,711
the bill.

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01:11:32,711 --> 01:11:36,311
Thank you thank you for your

2163
01:11:37,249 --> 01:11:40,249
comment going to our speaker

2164
01:11:41,686 --> 01:11:42,354
crypto Bradley 200 you'll have

2165
01:11:42,354 --> 01:11:43,540
one minute please proceed.

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01:11:43,540 --> 01:11:46,540
>> Thanks for taking my call.

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01:11:48,961 --> 01:11:49,628
I think you guys got to slow

2168
01:11:49,628 --> 01:11:52,628
the roll down and implement

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01:11:53,432 --> 01:11:54,399
this in my neighborhood they

2170
01:11:54,399 --> 01:11:55,100
put in those 15 a to use and

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01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:58,100
they're just starting to read

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01:11:59,338 --> 01:12:00,380
It's a nightmare man Slow roll

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01:12:00,380 --> 01:12:03,638
down And then also in soccer

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01:12:04,843 --> 01:12:05,577
game if you mess up with a game

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01:12:05,577 --> 01:12:06,245
they give you a yellow card and

2176
01:12:06,245 --> 01:12:07,120
they give you another yellow

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01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,612
card And then if you're acting

2178
01:12:12,584 --> 01:12:13,352
weird that you do the red card,

2179
01:12:13,352 --> 01:12:14,252
maybe next time you have to get

2180
01:12:14,252 --> 01:12:17,852
a person out of their regular

2181
01:12:18,230 --> 01:12:18,690
Rick you got the yellow card

2182
01:12:18,690 --> 01:12:19,391
one but another yellow card

2183
01:12:19,391 --> 01:12:22,991
interface and then get the red

2184
01:12:23,862 --> 01:12:24,596
card and then get a wheelchair

2185
01:12:24,596 --> 01:12:28,196
Those things and they roll them

2186
01:12:29,702 --> 01:12:30,502
out and strap them in and just

2187
01:12:30,502 --> 01:12:31,203
walk out and give her like

2188
01:12:31,203 --> 01:12:32,400
about a week off or something.

2189
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,407
That's a lot because it's just

2190
01:12:35,407 --> 01:12:38,711
you know, steady yelling at her

2191
01:12:38,711 --> 01:12:39,511
And the Padres are tied game

2192
01:12:39,511 --> 01:12:40,246
bottom of the first man You

2193
01:12:40,246 --> 01:12:40,880
guys should have the padre game

2194
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:45,800
on tv up there to make it

2195
01:12:45,217 --> 01:12:45,851
lighter but to slow the roll

2196
01:12:45,851 --> 01:12:46,551
down on implementing this

2197
01:12:46,551 --> 01:12:46,952
program man it's not good Your

2198
01:12:46,952 --> 01:12:48,952
time lapse.

2199
01:12:51,257 --> 01:12:51,990
Thank you for that.

2200
01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:52,591
We have Tom White on Natural.

2201
01:12:52,591 --> 01:12:54,991
You'll have one minute.

2202
01:12:56,829 --> 01:12:57,196
Please proceed.

2203
01:12:57,196 --> 01:12:57,963
Thank you.

2204
01:12:57,963 --> 01:12:58,864
Hi, my name is Tom Michael

2205
01:12:58,864 --> 01:13:03,640
Nagle and I call on the city

2206
01:13:03,569 --> 01:13:04,236
council to implement sb 79 on

2207
01:13:04,236 --> 01:13:07,236
the university our bus lanes

2208
01:13:09,740 --> 01:13:09,742
and Oklahoma Boulevard And I

2209
01:13:09,742 --> 01:13:10,442
call on the City Council to

2210
01:13:10,442 --> 01:13:11,143
implement sb seven nine in low

2211
01:13:11,143 --> 01:13:14,143
resource areas as soon as

2212
01:13:15,130 --> 01:13:15,714
possible to create even greater

2213
01:13:15,714 --> 01:13:16,386
economic opportunities for our

2214
01:13:16,386 --> 01:13:18,786
citizens and businesses and

2215
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:21,987
bolster our communities.

2216
01:13:21,987 --> 01:13:22,654
Building greater density in

2217
01:13:22,654 --> 01:13:25,540
these areas will contribute

2218
01:13:27,493 --> 01:13:28,160
even further the great strides

2219
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:28,861
San Diego has made in

2220
01:13:28,861 --> 01:13:29,562
increasing our housing supply

2221
01:13:29,562 --> 01:13:30,290
and increasing it further will

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01:13:30,290 --> 01:13:32,290
greatly improve

2223
01:13:33,866 --> 01:13:34,500
the affordability of housing

2224
01:13:34,500 --> 01:13:35,167
for all in the community.

2225
01:13:35,167 --> 01:13:38,167
High middle low income and

2226
01:13:39,972 --> 01:13:40,473
those without housing will all

2227
01:13:40,473 --> 01:13:40,906
benefit from these

2228
01:13:40,906 --> 01:13:42,906
improvements.

2229
01:13:45,344 --> 01:13:46,112
This rising San Diego tide will

2230
01:13:46,112 --> 01:13:46,611
lift all of its citizens and

2231
01:13:46,611 --> 01:13:48,611
businesses ships.

2232
01:13:51,784 --> 01:13:52,451
>> Thank you for your time.

2233
01:13:52,451 --> 01:13:53,520
Thank you for your comment.

2234
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:53,652
Our next speaker virtual

2235
01:13:53,652 --> 01:13:55,652
speakers Tracy Thompson.

2236
01:13:57,550 --> 01:13:57,657
Tracy Thompson.

2237
01:13:57,657 --> 01:13:58,257
You'll have one minute.

2238
01:13:58,257 --> 01:13:58,591
Please proceed with your

2239
01:13:58,591 --> 01:13:58,858
comment.

2240
01:13:58,858 --> 01:14:00,858
Yes.

2241
01:14:04,263 --> 01:14:04,964
Please proceed.

2242
01:14:04,964 --> 01:14:05,765
My name is Tracy Thompson.

2243
01:14:05,765 --> 01:14:06,432
I just want to urge the city to

2244
01:14:06,432 --> 01:14:09,432
implement sb something on as

2245
01:14:09,869 --> 01:14:10,602
quickly as possible with as few

2246
01:14:10,602 --> 01:14:11,270
as possible and to push towards

2247
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:14,270
the bus lanes being properly

2248
01:14:15,875 --> 01:14:16,575
handled on university.

2249
01:14:16,575 --> 01:14:17,276
Have another Bloomberg I just

2250
01:14:17,276 --> 01:14:17,843
find it that I find it strange

2251
01:14:17,843 --> 01:14:20,843
that for a large major

2252
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:21,581
metropolitan area like San

2253
01:14:21,581 --> 01:14:22,281
Diego we don't have a high

2254
01:14:22,281 --> 01:14:25,281
focus on increasing density in

2255
01:14:28,287 --> 01:14:28,955
our urban areas and by proxy

2256
01:14:28,955 --> 01:14:29,355
increasing transit access to

2257
01:14:29,355 --> 01:14:31,355
that theme.

2258
01:14:33,893 --> 01:14:37,493
My comment does I conclude your

2259
01:14:39,265 --> 01:14:39,632
comment Yes thank you very

2260
01:14:39,632 --> 01:14:40,232
much.

2261
01:14:40,232 --> 01:14:43,832
The next speakers d m you'll

2262
01:14:45,337 --> 01:14:45,672
have one minute Please proceed

2263
01:14:45,672 --> 01:14:46,439
.

2264
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:46,906
>> Thank you Counsel My name is

2265
01:14:46,906 --> 01:14:47,440
Daniel Mollett.

2266
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,440
I live in San Diego.

2267
01:14:50,943 --> 01:14:51,678
I'm better for normal heights.

2268
01:14:51,678 --> 01:14:52,312
I just wanted to comment about

2269
01:14:52,312 --> 01:14:54,312
the implementation of 79.

2270
01:14:56,749 --> 01:14:57,416
I'm calling in strong support

2271
01:14:57,416 --> 01:14:58,170
of correctly implementing it

2272
01:14:58,170 --> 01:15:00,417
according to state law.

2273
01:15:01,654 --> 01:15:02,388
As you know our cities and

2274
01:15:02,388 --> 01:15:03,550
housing crisis I think building

2275
01:15:03,550 --> 01:15:03,723
more homes in high frequency

2276
01:15:03,723 --> 01:15:06,123
transit areas like Oklahoma

2277
01:15:08,627 --> 01:15:09,329
Boulevard University Avenue and

2278
01:15:09,329 --> 01:15:09,662
Park Boulevard is exactly what

2279
01:15:09,662 --> 01:15:11,662
we need.

2280
01:15:13,766 --> 01:15:14,467
You know, California's actually

2281
01:15:14,467 --> 01:15:15,133
losing residents And if we

2282
01:15:15,133 --> 01:15:17,533
continue down this path

2283
01:15:21,730 --> 01:15:21,708
the electoral College is going

2284
01:15:21,708 --> 01:15:22,442
to make it impossible for

2285
01:15:22,442 --> 01:15:23,142
Democrats to even have a chance

2286
01:15:23,142 --> 01:15:25,878
of winning the presidency even

2287
01:15:25,878 --> 01:15:26,846
with the blue wall.

2288
01:15:26,846 --> 01:15:31,460
So this is this is a microcosm

2289
01:15:33,887 --> 01:15:34,587
of that And we should be

2290
01:15:34,587 --> 01:15:35,288
pushing forward to let as many

2291
01:15:35,288 --> 01:15:35,588
people live where they want to

2292
01:15:35,588 --> 01:15:36,289
live.

2293
01:15:36,289 --> 01:15:38,792
It's possible to live the kind

2294
01:15:38,792 --> 01:15:39,492
of life they want to live, put

2295
01:15:39,492 --> 01:15:40,193
them in a place where they're

2296
01:15:40,193 --> 01:15:40,593
going to get to work as easily

2297
01:15:40,593 --> 01:15:42,593
as possible.

2298
01:15:44,664 --> 01:15:45,365
This is the obvious policy I

2299
01:15:45,365 --> 01:15:46,320
hope you guys don't delay it.

2300
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:46,332
Thank you very much for your

2301
01:15:46,332 --> 01:15:47,000
time.

2302
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,000
Thank you for your comment.

2303
01:15:50,203 --> 01:15:50,937
Our next speaker saw that

2304
01:15:50,937 --> 01:15:51,571
thought you'll have one minute.

2305
01:15:51,571 --> 01:15:53,971
Please proceed with your

2306
01:15:55,809 --> 01:15:56,575
comment.

2307
01:15:56,575 --> 01:15:57,243
Council members Thank you to

2308
01:15:57,243 --> 01:15:57,844
the Planning Department for

2309
01:15:57,844 --> 01:16:00,844
their hard work on this

2310
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:04,850
important plan.

2311
01:16:04,850 --> 01:16:05,719
Sb 79 will allow more homes

2312
01:16:05,719 --> 01:16:09,319
near transit and I think that

2313
01:16:09,322 --> 01:16:10,230
being more quickly phased in

2314
01:16:10,230 --> 01:16:13,623
those that agree with that can

2315
01:16:14,461 --> 01:16:15,128
be done so that we should also

2316
01:16:15,128 --> 01:16:15,528
include these high capacity

2317
01:16:15,528 --> 01:16:16,262
bike lanes.

2318
01:16:16,262 --> 01:16:19,862
One of the biggest mistake when

2319
01:16:21,401 --> 01:16:21,868
it comes to housing is

2320
01:16:21,868 --> 01:16:22,569
infrastructure.

2321
01:16:22,569 --> 01:16:23,269
The best way to build housing

2322
01:16:23,269 --> 01:16:26,239
therefore is allowing the high

2323
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:26,940
frequency transit by about 50

2324
01:16:26,940 --> 01:16:27,607
minutes which is large amount

2325
01:16:27,607 --> 01:16:30,607
of people already living in

2326
01:16:31,478 --> 01:16:31,780
these areas just grocery stores

2327
01:16:31,780 --> 01:16:32,445
.

2328
01:16:32,445 --> 01:16:33,790
The library is the perfect

2329
01:16:33,790 --> 01:16:36,790
place to add more housing

2330
01:16:37,484 --> 01:16:38,251
housing fundamentally is good.

2331
01:16:38,251 --> 01:16:38,952
I think some people get it

2332
01:16:38,952 --> 01:16:39,586
wrong and believe that adding

2333
01:16:39,586 --> 01:16:43,186
more housing is a bad that

2334
01:16:45,459 --> 01:16:46,126
they're harmed by existence.

2335
01:16:46,126 --> 01:16:46,793
Expensive housing housing is

2336
01:16:46,793 --> 01:16:47,227
more neighbors in need, more

2337
01:16:47,227 --> 01:16:49,227
affordability.

2338
01:16:49,262 --> 01:16:49,963
It means that we all get to

2339
01:16:49,963 --> 01:16:50,731
live here, our children get to

2340
01:16:50,731 --> 01:16:51,231
live here and we get to build a

2341
01:16:51,231 --> 01:16:53,231
society together.

2342
01:16:54,701 --> 01:16:55,200
I want to emphasize housing is

2343
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:55,435
good.

2344
01:16:55,435 --> 01:16:57,435
>> Thank you.

2345
01:17:00,307 --> 01:17:00,973
Thank you for your comment.

2346
01:17:00,973 --> 01:17:01,675
Moira Tan you'll have one

2347
01:17:01,675 --> 01:17:04,750
minute Please start your

2348
01:17:05,545 --> 01:17:07,545
comment.

2349
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,321
Moira Martin I've asked you to

2350
01:17:14,321 --> 01:17:18,521
mute I cannot unmute for you if

2351
01:17:23,630 --> 01:17:23,931
you're on a phone Star six by

2352
01:17:23,931 --> 01:17:24,297
three will be able to hear me.

2353
01:17:24,297 --> 01:17:24,765
>> Yes.

2354
01:17:24,765 --> 01:17:25,131
Please proceed.

2355
01:17:25,131 --> 01:17:27,131
Thank you.

2356
01:17:28,702 --> 01:17:29,135
Thank you.

2357
01:17:29,135 --> 01:17:29,803
Good evening.

2358
01:17:29,803 --> 01:17:30,437
Council PRESIDENT LaCava and

2359
01:17:30,437 --> 01:17:32,837
Council members Thank you.

2360
01:17:34,842 --> 01:17:35,542
The City Planning Department

2361
01:17:35,542 --> 01:17:35,909
for your thought partnership

2362
01:17:35,909 --> 01:17:36,610
here too.

2363
01:17:36,610 --> 01:17:37,277
>> My name is Mary Tan and I'm

2364
01:17:37,277 --> 01:17:40,413
a District five a San Diego

2365
01:17:40,413 --> 01:17:40,981
resident calling in strong

2366
01:17:40,981 --> 01:17:41,682
support of the correct

2367
01:17:41,682 --> 01:17:41,949
implementation of Senate Bill

2368
01:17:41,949 --> 01:17:43,949
79.

2369
01:17:47,321 --> 01:17:48,550
>> San Diego is in a housing

2370
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:48,722
crisis building homes near high

2371
01:17:48,722 --> 01:17:50,722
frequency transit corridors

2372
01:17:51,625 --> 01:17:52,259
pick up the fungo Harvard

2373
01:17:52,259 --> 01:17:52,960
University Avenue in Park

2374
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,960
Boulevard is exactly what our

2375
01:17:57,965 --> 01:17:58,665
city needs more affordable

2376
01:17:58,665 --> 01:18:01,650
options, less traffic, cleaner

2377
01:18:03,303 --> 01:18:03,637
air and stronger neighborhoods

2378
01:18:03,637 --> 01:18:04,304
.

2379
01:18:04,304 --> 01:18:07,304
Tonight you have a simple

2380
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:08,609
opportunity to unlock up to 48

2381
01:18:08,609 --> 01:18:09,309
additional bus stops for

2382
01:18:09,309 --> 01:18:12,309
transit oriented housing at no

2383
01:18:14,181 --> 01:18:14,782
cost to the city simply by

2384
01:18:14,782 --> 01:18:15,316
adopting a legally sound

2385
01:18:15,316 --> 01:18:15,983
reading of the law.

2386
01:18:15,983 --> 01:18:18,383
The California's own vehicle

2387
01:18:20,287 --> 01:18:20,821
code already supports Governor

2388
01:18:20,821 --> 01:18:21,488
Newsom is watching.

2389
01:18:21,488 --> 01:18:23,888
Our residents are watching.

2390
01:18:26,527 --> 01:18:27,610
We believe this council can

2391
01:18:27,610 --> 01:18:27,761
rise to the moment.

2392
01:18:27,761 --> 01:18:28,362
Please adopt the new Democrat

2393
01:18:28,362 --> 01:18:30,362
proposed amendments and

2394
01:18:32,366 --> 01:18:32,700
recognize these before we

2395
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:33,367
comment.

2396
01:18:33,367 --> 01:18:34,680
>> Qualifying Corridor c are

2397
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,668
second to the last speaker is

2398
01:18:37,737 --> 01:18:38,371
phone number ending in two

2399
01:18:38,371 --> 01:18:39,106
eight 700 You'll have one

2400
01:18:39,106 --> 01:18:42,106
minute Please proceed with your

2401
01:18:48,982 --> 01:18:49,816
comment.

2402
01:18:49,816 --> 01:18:52,216
>> Phone number ending in 28

2403
01:18:56,991 --> 01:18:57,758
700 I've ask you to unmute if

2404
01:18:57,758 --> 01:19:01,461
you are that phone oh we could

2405
01:19:01,461 --> 01:19:02,329
hear you now you'll have Yes

2406
01:19:02,329 --> 01:19:05,929
You didn't say my phone number

2407
01:19:06,367 --> 01:19:08,367
correct.

2408
01:19:10,136 --> 01:19:10,638
>> Do we have a phone number

2409
01:19:10,638 --> 01:19:12,638
ending in 28700?

2410
01:19:17,211 --> 01:19:18,145
>> That's not me.

2411
01:19:18,145 --> 01:19:19,213
This is what we have on a kill

2412
01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:21,886
I feel I speak This is joy that

2413
01:19:21,886 --> 01:19:22,215
it is me Yes please please

2414
01:19:22,215 --> 01:19:22,516
proceed.

2415
01:19:22,516 --> 01:19:23,884
Okay.

2416
01:19:23,884 --> 01:19:24,251
But are you just starting my

2417
01:19:24,251 --> 01:19:26,251
time now?

2418
01:19:30,324 --> 01:19:30,992
Please.

2419
01:19:30,992 --> 01:19:31,591
>> You have one minute.

2420
01:19:31,591 --> 01:19:31,892
We've started the timer.

2421
01:19:31,892 --> 01:19:33,892
Okay.

2422
01:19:36,563 --> 01:19:37,198
Thank you, Joy.

2423
01:19:37,198 --> 01:19:37,698
Senator, this is only from

2424
01:19:37,698 --> 01:19:39,698
the staff report.

2425
01:19:41,836 --> 01:19:42,436
I didn't understand the city

2426
01:19:42,436 --> 01:19:44,436
most minister approved.

2427
01:19:47,141 --> 01:19:48,108
I'm concerned about public

2428
01:19:48,108 --> 01:19:51,108
hearings and also opting to

2429
01:19:51,812 --> 01:19:54,212
implement sb 79 on Marketplace

2430
01:19:56,350 --> 01:19:59,350
and Fordable homes First and

2431
01:20:01,522 --> 01:20:02,189
high highest and moderate

2432
01:20:02,189 --> 01:20:02,623
resource areas will support

2433
01:20:02,623 --> 01:20:03,324
fair housing.

2434
01:20:03,324 --> 01:20:06,324
I didn't understand that with

2435
01:20:07,829 --> 01:20:08,629
regard to low resource areas

2436
01:20:08,629 --> 01:20:11,629
anticipating come in to ongoing

2437
01:20:15,303 --> 01:20:16,700
community plan Page I at City

2438
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:18,372
and Otay Mesa next door I

2439
01:20:18,372 --> 01:20:19,140
didn't understand in that I

2440
01:20:19,140 --> 01:20:23,340
would really like all of us to

2441
01:20:23,878 --> 01:20:24,445
think about clarifying what

2442
01:20:24,445 --> 01:20:25,450
affordable housing is

2443
01:20:25,450 --> 01:20:27,450
affordable housing work.

2444
01:20:29,283 --> 01:20:29,984
I don't think we still

2445
01:20:29,984 --> 01:20:30,852
understand it fully So cpc

2446
01:20:30,852 --> 01:20:34,452
thank you for your vote of

2447
01:20:35,289 --> 01:20:35,990
equal 28 in support.

2448
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:38,990
Thank you for your comment.

2449
01:20:39,927 --> 01:20:40,595
Your time is up to our In our

2450
01:20:40,595 --> 01:20:43,595
final speaker on the virtual

2451
01:20:45,233 --> 01:20:45,900
queue is Bruce Coombs.

2452
01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:46,367
>> You'll have one minute

2453
01:20:46,367 --> 01:20:48,367
Please proceed.

2454
01:20:51,380 --> 01:20:51,639
Thank you Briskin Secretary

2455
01:20:51,639 --> 01:20:52,730
Director Saber Heritage

2456
01:20:52,730 --> 01:20:52,607
Organization.

2457
01:20:52,607 --> 01:20:55,700
We support the staff

2458
01:20:56,210 --> 01:20:56,811
recommendation without

2459
01:20:56,811 --> 01:20:57,445
the recommendations from

2460
01:20:57,445 --> 01:20:58,145
the Planning Commission we

2461
01:20:58,145 --> 01:21:01,715
believe staff did a very good

2462
01:21:01,715 --> 01:21:04,715
job of explaining the ordinance

2463
01:21:06,454 --> 01:21:07,155
which allows for the exactly

2464
01:21:07,155 --> 01:21:09,555
what they proposed including

2465
01:21:12,894 --> 01:21:15,894
phasing out the low resource

2466
01:21:17,966 --> 01:21:18,433
areas and the fire impacted

2467
01:21:18,433 --> 01:21:19,167
areas.

2468
01:21:19,167 --> 01:21:19,868
So we think it's very important

2469
01:21:19,868 --> 01:21:22,868
to do this right, particularly

2470
01:21:24,500 --> 01:21:24,472
with the low end or low

2471
01:21:24,472 --> 01:21:25,172
resource areas.

2472
01:21:25,172 --> 01:21:28,772
They do not have the amenities

2473
01:21:28,876 --> 01:21:29,644
and the infrastructure to

2474
01:21:29,644 --> 01:21:32,644
properly support this year and

2475
01:21:34,449 --> 01:21:35,250
plus in those areas we have to

2476
01:21:35,250 --> 01:21:38,850
be very careful that we don't

2477
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:39,688
eliminate the actual affordable

2478
01:21:39,688 --> 01:21:40,388
housing, the naturally

2479
01:21:40,388 --> 01:21:40,989
occurring affordable housing.

2480
01:21:40,989 --> 01:21:44,589
So we have to plan this

2481
01:21:44,993 --> 01:21:45,660
correctly and I think the staff

2482
01:21:45,660 --> 01:21:49,260
did a very good job of

2483
01:21:49,431 --> 01:21:50,131
explaining why it seems

2484
01:21:50,131 --> 01:21:50,565
the Planning Commission chose

2485
01:21:50,565 --> 01:21:50,998
to ignore it.

2486
01:21:50,998 --> 01:21:52,998
>> Thank you.

2487
01:21:55,236 --> 01:21:55,870
Thank you for your comment and

2488
01:21:55,870 --> 01:21:56,471
that concludes the public

2489
01:21:56,471 --> 01:21:58,471
testimony and item 600.

2490
01:22:00,475 --> 01:22:00,775
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

2491
01:22:00,775 --> 01:22:01,376
right.

2492
01:22:01,376 --> 01:22:02,770
Thank you for that.

2493
01:22:02,770 --> 01:22:02,777
Thank you everybody that took

2494
01:22:02,777 --> 01:22:03,144
the time to show up in person.

2495
01:22:03,144 --> 01:22:05,144
Thank you.

2496
01:22:05,947 --> 01:22:06,681
Those who call in and a special

2497
01:22:06,681 --> 01:22:07,348
shout out for those of you that

2498
01:22:07,348 --> 01:22:10,919
showed up just to give your

2499
01:22:10,919 --> 01:22:11,586
time to somebody else longer

2500
01:22:11,586 --> 01:22:12,287
presentations are much more

2501
01:22:12,287 --> 01:22:15,287
effective than the one minute

2502
01:22:16,558 --> 01:22:17,425
speeches that we sometimes

2503
01:22:17,425 --> 01:22:21,625
force you to do And it's good

2504
01:22:22,531 --> 01:22:23,297
to see you all have friends

2505
01:22:23,297 --> 01:22:26,434
even Paul and Jeff to drag

2506
01:22:26,434 --> 01:22:26,934
individuals out here Late night

2507
01:22:26,934 --> 01:22:27,602
to do that.

2508
01:22:27,602 --> 01:22:30,602
So anyway, this is coming

2509
01:22:31,773 --> 01:22:32,507
direct to city council

2510
01:22:32,507 --> 01:22:33,207
Otherwise I normally would have

2511
01:22:33,207 --> 01:22:37,407
gone to the chair of our land

2512
01:22:37,845 --> 01:22:38,513
use and housing but council

2513
01:22:38,513 --> 01:22:39,213
member council PRESIDENT Pro

2514
01:22:39,213 --> 01:22:43,285
Tem is not here so I will take

2515
01:22:43,285 --> 01:22:43,952
the lead on this So I'll start

2516
01:22:43,952 --> 01:22:44,519
out with one of the callers

2517
01:22:44,519 --> 01:22:45,153
that housing is good.

2518
01:22:45,153 --> 01:22:47,822
You know what else is good

2519
01:22:47,822 --> 01:22:48,423
Planning is good and I am so

2520
01:22:48,423 --> 01:22:51,423
impressed by the city as

2521
01:22:52,727 --> 01:22:53,462
someone who actually came out

2522
01:22:53,462 --> 01:22:56,462
of the industry who understands

2523
01:22:57,799 --> 01:22:58,667
what city planning is all about

2524
01:22:58,667 --> 01:22:59,367
And I don't think there is any

2525
01:22:59,367 --> 01:23:00,101
city up and down the state of

2526
01:23:00,101 --> 01:23:03,101
California that has been more

2527
01:23:03,705 --> 01:23:04,406
aggressive in being a pro

2528
01:23:04,406 --> 01:23:05,107
housing in increasing density

2529
01:23:05,107 --> 01:23:08,107
and doing every community plan

2530
01:23:09,440 --> 01:23:09,777
Update and creating more

2531
01:23:09,777 --> 01:23:10,445
opportunities for housing to be

2532
01:23:10,445 --> 01:23:13,445
built whether it gets built,

2533
01:23:14,416 --> 01:23:15,830
whether a developer can make a

2534
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:15,384
project and solve something

2535
01:23:15,384 --> 01:23:17,384
else.

2536
01:23:19,154 --> 01:23:19,855
But and a lot of the density

2537
01:23:19,855 --> 01:23:20,555
that we've increased was just

2538
01:23:20,555 --> 01:23:20,822
sitting fallow for a few years

2539
01:23:20,822 --> 01:23:22,822
now.

2540
01:23:24,226 --> 01:23:24,927
A lot of the actions we took in

2541
01:23:24,927 --> 01:23:27,327
certain areas nothing's moved

2542
01:23:29,965 --> 01:23:30,632
in that area But I appreciate

2543
01:23:30,632 --> 01:23:34,232
Heidi and your team at City

2544
01:23:34,302 --> 01:23:35,300
Planning dropping the work that

2545
01:23:35,300 --> 01:23:35,536
you should be doing to respond

2546
01:23:35,536 --> 01:23:37,936
to a state mandate.

2547
01:23:39,642 --> 01:23:40,475
That's where we live right now.

2548
01:23:40,475 --> 01:23:41,210
So this is the law We have to

2549
01:23:41,210 --> 01:23:44,810
comply And I'm glad that nobody

2550
01:23:45,447 --> 01:23:45,914
actually was challenging sb 79.

2551
01:23:45,914 --> 01:23:46,682
It's the law.

2552
01:23:46,682 --> 01:23:50,282
We're trying to figure out how

2553
01:23:50,352 --> 01:23:50,986
to do that And I believe city

2554
01:23:50,986 --> 01:23:51,620
planning is in fact acting

2555
01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:54,200
within the specific areas

2556
01:23:54,957 --> 01:23:55,256
allowed for phasing under state

2557
01:23:55,256 --> 01:23:56,125
law.

2558
01:23:56,125 --> 01:23:59,725
>> And again I'm going to one

2559
01:24:00,462 --> 01:24:01,230
of the things that everybody

2560
01:24:01,230 --> 01:24:01,896
got nervous about sb 79 I

2561
01:24:01,896 --> 01:24:04,296
appreciated that unlike most

2562
01:24:05,801 --> 01:24:06,435
language coming out of

2563
01:24:06,435 --> 01:24:07,690
Sacramento, that is just a

2564
01:24:07,690 --> 01:24:09,469
blunt tool being applied

2565
01:24:11,907 --> 01:24:12,608
statewide that is really

2566
01:24:12,608 --> 01:24:13,309
intended for those cities that

2567
01:24:13,309 --> 01:24:15,709
aren't building housing, that

2568
01:24:16,978 --> 01:24:17,479
aren't doing the zoning that

2569
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,879
needs to be done.

2570
01:24:21,416 --> 01:24:22,117
Sb 79 in its final form came in

2571
01:24:22,117 --> 01:24:22,985
a way that allowed a local

2572
01:24:22,985 --> 01:24:26,585
tailoring to make it fit with

2573
01:24:27,256 --> 01:24:27,990
where we're at to recognize

2574
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:28,724
the community plan updates that

2575
01:24:28,724 --> 01:24:31,727
we're doing that we've done and

2576
01:24:31,727 --> 01:24:32,394
we're doing and tailor it more

2577
01:24:32,394 --> 01:24:34,794
surgically rather than more

2578
01:24:37,166 --> 01:24:37,933
bluntly So for the folks

2579
01:24:37,933 --> 01:24:38,667
there's a lot of you here and

2580
01:24:38,667 --> 01:24:39,301
called in stating that the city

2581
01:24:39,301 --> 01:24:42,137
is not going far enough

2582
01:24:42,137 --> 01:24:42,505
including by including eligible

2583
01:24:42,505 --> 01:24:43,137
bus stops.

2584
01:24:43,137 --> 01:24:46,137
City Planning has done a

2585
01:24:47,375 --> 01:24:49,375
thorough analysis with

2586
01:24:51,547 --> 01:24:52,247
the caveat that the sb 79 did

2587
01:24:52,247 --> 01:24:55,847
require the MPOs sandag in our

2588
01:24:56,652 --> 01:24:57,353
case to release their maps and

2589
01:24:57,353 --> 01:25:00,953
they have not done that yet.

2590
01:25:02,158 --> 01:25:02,891
And if those map if the map

2591
01:25:02,891 --> 01:25:03,592
released by sandag is different

2592
01:25:03,592 --> 01:25:06,592
than what we're talking about

2593
01:25:07,296 --> 01:25:07,630
today, the sandag map will

2594
01:25:07,630 --> 01:25:08,230
prevail.

2595
01:25:08,230 --> 01:25:08,497
>> Is that correct, sir?

2596
01:25:08,497 --> 01:25:10,497
Yes.

2597
01:25:11,967 --> 01:25:12,702
Council PRESIDENT The recital

2598
01:25:12,702 --> 01:25:15,102
in the ordinance specifically

2599
01:25:16,472 --> 01:25:17,172
recital f specifically notes

2600
01:25:17,172 --> 01:25:17,873
that the city will implement

2601
01:25:17,873 --> 01:25:20,873
the coyote stops identified by

2602
01:25:21,644 --> 01:25:21,976
sandag when they released

2603
01:25:21,976 --> 01:25:22,912
the map.

2604
01:25:22,912 --> 01:25:26,882
I do want to note that since sb

2605
01:25:26,882 --> 01:25:27,550
79 was put into law our staff

2606
01:25:27,550 --> 01:25:28,150
has coordinated closely with

2607
01:25:28,150 --> 01:25:31,150
staff at sandag and our

2608
01:25:31,954 --> 01:25:32,622
interpretation to our knowledge

2609
01:25:32,622 --> 01:25:35,622
as of today has remained

2610
01:25:36,859 --> 01:25:37,827
consistent with the stops

2611
01:25:37,827 --> 01:25:41,997
Again, if they do put out a map

2612
01:25:41,997 --> 01:25:42,632
that is different this

2613
01:25:42,632 --> 01:25:43,365
ordinance takes that into

2614
01:25:43,365 --> 01:25:45,765
account by specifically stating

2615
01:25:45,834 --> 01:25:46,636
that the city will implement

2616
01:25:46,636 --> 01:25:49,636
the three stops identified in

2617
01:25:49,939 --> 01:25:50,806
the sandag map the statute

2618
01:25:50,806 --> 01:25:51,474
under sb 79 is very clear that

2619
01:25:51,474 --> 01:25:52,400
the map that is produced by

2620
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,400
the Regional Planning

2621
01:25:55,677 --> 01:25:56,112
organization is the map that

2622
01:25:56,112 --> 01:25:56,445
will control.

2623
01:25:56,445 --> 01:25:58,445
>> Okay.

2624
01:26:00,490 --> 01:26:01,183
Thank you for that.

2625
01:26:01,183 --> 01:26:04,921
So I want to give you Heidi or

2626
01:26:04,921 --> 01:26:05,688
whoever the opportunity because

2627
01:26:05,688 --> 01:26:08,688
a number of public commenters

2628
01:26:09,925 --> 01:26:13,525
have said we got that wasn't

2629
01:26:14,663 --> 01:26:15,331
interpreted correctly that some

2630
01:26:15,331 --> 01:26:16,650
of those other areas besides

2631
01:26:16,650 --> 01:26:16,833
what you do and actually what I

2632
01:26:16,833 --> 01:26:19,502
wanted I remember you gave a

2633
01:26:19,502 --> 01:26:20,169
memo about 79 that gave us all

2634
01:26:20,169 --> 01:26:23,769
a heads up if I remember

2635
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:24,841
correctly You got some guidance

2636
01:26:24,841 --> 01:26:28,441
from cd and you revised your

2637
01:26:29,345 --> 01:26:29,879
memo to where this action today

2638
01:26:29,879 --> 01:26:31,879
is consistent with.

2639
01:26:33,516 --> 01:26:34,116
>> So can you speak about a

2640
01:26:34,116 --> 01:26:34,851
little more of your

2641
01:26:34,851 --> 01:26:37,487
interpretation of why what's in

2642
01:26:37,487 --> 01:26:38,454
front of us today actually

2643
01:26:38,454 --> 01:26:42,250
meets 79 Yes So as soon as sb

2644
01:26:42,250 --> 01:26:42,591
79 went into law we have been

2645
01:26:42,591 --> 01:26:43,258
meeting with staff and

2646
01:26:43,258 --> 01:26:43,926
coordinating with staff from

2647
01:26:43,926 --> 01:26:46,326
other jurisdictions that are

2648
01:26:47,330 --> 01:26:48,970
subject to the requirements as

2649
01:26:48,970 --> 01:26:48,798
well as staff from our regional

2650
01:26:48,798 --> 01:26:49,499
planning organization so that

2651
01:26:49,499 --> 01:26:52,201
we could ensure that we would

2652
01:26:52,201 --> 01:26:52,669
have a consistent

2653
01:26:52,669 --> 01:26:53,369
interpretation.

2654
01:26:53,369 --> 01:26:56,369
Each city did issue guidance.

2655
01:26:56,639 --> 01:26:57,240
They do not specify specific

2656
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:57,874
stops within each of

2657
01:26:57,874 --> 01:27:00,874
the jurisdictions so it is

2658
01:27:01,344 --> 01:27:01,977
still up for interpretation But

2659
01:27:01,977 --> 01:27:02,679
their guidance was largely

2660
01:27:02,679 --> 01:27:05,790
consistent although provided a

2661
01:27:06,490 --> 01:27:06,816
little bit more clarity with

2662
01:27:06,816 --> 01:27:10,416
respect to a bus rapid transit

2663
01:27:10,987 --> 01:27:11,821
It is very clear to me that all

2664
01:27:11,821 --> 01:27:12,488
of City of San Diego's existing

2665
01:27:12,488 --> 01:27:14,888
trolley stops are qualifying

2666
01:27:15,291 --> 01:27:15,992
transit stops under the bill

2667
01:27:15,992 --> 01:27:16,626
With respect to bus rapid

2668
01:27:16,626 --> 01:27:19,260
transit stops The statute

2669
01:27:20,630 --> 01:27:21,331
refers to another section which

2670
01:27:21,331 --> 01:27:23,731
identifies the requirement for

2671
01:27:25,702 --> 01:27:26,369
full time dedicated bus lanes

2672
01:27:26,369 --> 01:27:27,300
or operation and a separate

2673
01:27:27,300 --> 01:27:30,300
right of way dedicated for

2674
01:27:30,573 --> 01:27:31,241
public transportation.

2675
01:27:31,241 --> 01:27:33,641
And then there's frequency

2676
01:27:35,111 --> 01:27:35,778
requirements The bus rapid

2677
01:27:35,778 --> 01:27:38,178
transit stations meet the 15

2678
01:27:39,516 --> 01:27:40,216
minute frequency requirements

2679
01:27:40,216 --> 01:27:40,850
but our staff reviewed them.

2680
01:27:40,850 --> 01:27:43,850
We did identify four stops

2681
01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:45,321
based off of that additional

2682
01:27:45,321 --> 01:27:45,989
eight city guidance and

2683
01:27:45,989 --> 01:27:46,656
additional discussions with

2684
01:27:46,656 --> 01:27:49,560
sandag staff and identified

2685
01:27:50,293 --> 01:27:50,860
those additional four stops

2686
01:27:50,860 --> 01:27:51,561
which was released in

2687
01:27:51,561 --> 01:27:54,897
the second memo to the Council

2688
01:27:54,897 --> 01:27:55,598
and the other stops and we

2689
01:27:55,598 --> 01:27:56,660
determined were not full time

2690
01:27:56,660 --> 01:27:58,660
dedicated lanes.

2691
01:27:59,569 --> 01:28:00,236
We have sent staff out and

2692
01:28:00,236 --> 01:28:02,636
observed bikes in their

2693
01:28:04,340 --> 01:28:05,410
vehicles turning into the lanes

2694
01:28:05,410 --> 01:28:05,775
but you will see that the four

2695
01:28:05,775 --> 01:28:08,775
stops that have been included

2696
01:28:09,178 --> 01:28:12,778
on the maps are full time

2697
01:28:13,350 --> 01:28:14,840
dedicated bus lanes or in a

2698
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:14,784
separate right of way dedicated

2699
01:28:14,784 --> 01:28:17,184
for the public transportation.

2700
01:28:18,588 --> 01:28:19,188
I do want to note that there

2701
01:28:19,188 --> 01:28:19,823
was not very much time

2702
01:28:19,823 --> 01:28:21,823
relatively speaking under

2703
01:28:23,526 --> 01:28:23,827
the state law for staff to do

2704
01:28:23,827 --> 01:28:24,694
this.

2705
01:28:24,694 --> 01:28:28,599
I do want to commend my staff

2706
01:28:28,599 --> 01:28:29,298
That was able to not only do a

2707
01:28:29,298 --> 01:28:32,402
full analysis of the bill but

2708
01:28:32,402 --> 01:28:33,103
coordinate with our city

2709
01:28:33,103 --> 01:28:33,637
attorney's office who has been

2710
01:28:33,637 --> 01:28:36,370
very helpful in its

2711
01:28:38,410 --> 01:28:38,742
interpretation as well as with

2712
01:28:38,742 --> 01:28:39,109
our regional planning partners

2713
01:28:39,109 --> 01:28:39,810
at sandag.

2714
01:28:39,810 --> 01:28:42,810
>> Okay, I appreciate that And

2715
01:28:43,113 --> 01:28:43,647
it's times like this that

2716
01:28:43,647 --> 01:28:44,314
always reminded how

2717
01:28:44,314 --> 01:28:46,314
uncomfortable how unhelpful

2718
01:28:47,517 --> 01:28:48,151
the English language is because

2719
01:28:48,151 --> 01:28:50,551
language that is actually

2720
01:28:52,289 --> 01:28:53,156
legally binding is used just as

2721
01:28:53,156 --> 01:28:53,657
much in a staff report or a

2722
01:28:53,657 --> 01:28:55,657
reference, right?

2723
01:28:57,427 --> 01:28:58,950
>> And it confuses us all.

2724
01:28:58,950 --> 01:29:01,950
So the arguments were very

2725
01:29:01,431 --> 01:29:02,980
compelling with the exception

2726
01:29:02,980 --> 01:29:05,980
that the definitions I think

2727
01:29:06,903 --> 01:29:07,704
are more compelling than

2728
01:29:07,704 --> 01:29:08,472
the reference in a memo or a

2729
01:29:08,472 --> 01:29:11,472
staff report and how people

2730
01:29:12,542 --> 01:29:13,430
speak including myself too

2731
01:29:13,430 --> 01:29:13,710
casually at times.

2732
01:29:13,710 --> 01:29:16,110
>> Council PRESIDENT If you

2733
01:29:17,113 --> 01:29:17,848
don't mind I would also defer

2734
01:29:17,848 --> 01:29:18,382
to the city attorney to provide

2735
01:29:18,382 --> 01:29:18,982
additional thoughts.

2736
01:29:18,982 --> 01:29:21,382
There was some reference

2737
01:29:22,386 --> 01:29:23,120
material provided that we

2738
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,120
received today that cites other

2739
01:29:27,524 --> 01:29:28,191
statutory provisions and defer

2740
01:29:28,191 --> 01:29:28,759
to the city attorney if they

2741
01:29:28,759 --> 01:29:29,125
have anything to add.

2742
01:29:29,125 --> 01:29:31,125
Thank you.

2743
01:29:31,528 --> 01:29:32,296
Okay.

2744
01:29:32,296 --> 01:29:33,463
I would ask Deputy City

2745
01:29:33,463 --> 01:29:35,863
Attorney Shannon Meyer please

2746
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:39,502
to respond.

2747
01:29:39,502 --> 01:29:40,437
Thank you.

2748
01:29:40,437 --> 01:29:44,508
As you as Heidi said, this is

2749
01:29:44,508 --> 01:29:45,175
not legally defined but staff's

2750
01:29:45,175 --> 01:29:47,175
interpretation is reasonable

2751
01:29:49,179 --> 01:29:49,846
based on the three use Courtney

2752
01:29:49,846 --> 01:29:52,846
shared with state the state

2753
01:29:53,830 --> 01:29:53,784
agencies Cdw's guidance memo

2754
01:29:53,784 --> 01:29:54,451
and the practical application

2755
01:29:54,451 --> 01:29:58,510
of the language As the City

2756
01:29:58,889 --> 01:29:59,590
Planning Department stated if

2757
01:29:59,590 --> 01:30:00,290
the it does release a map that

2758
01:30:00,290 --> 01:30:02,826
includes any teary stops that

2759
01:30:02,826 --> 01:30:03,527
the city did not include,

2760
01:30:03,527 --> 01:30:07,127
the city is required to amend

2761
01:30:07,497 --> 01:30:08,365
it so that it is consistent

2762
01:30:08,365 --> 01:30:09,330
with sandbags map I did want to

2763
01:30:09,330 --> 01:30:12,330
state that the vehicle code

2764
01:30:12,636 --> 01:30:13,303
cited regulates this evening.

2765
01:30:13,303 --> 01:30:15,703
It regulates parking and

2766
01:30:17,274 --> 01:30:17,875
citation procedures and right

2767
01:30:17,875 --> 01:30:18,575
side of the road driving

2768
01:30:18,575 --> 01:30:21,378
procedures and is a different

2769
01:30:21,378 --> 01:30:21,978
legal statute that's not

2770
01:30:21,978 --> 01:30:22,383
applicable to sb 79.

2771
01:30:22,383 --> 01:30:24,383
>> Okay.

2772
01:30:26,617 --> 01:30:27,317
Thank you for scrambling and

2773
01:30:27,317 --> 01:30:28,180
doing that analysis and taking

2774
01:30:28,180 --> 01:30:31,180
the input seriously enough to

2775
01:30:31,488 --> 01:30:32,220
to review that.

2776
01:30:32,220 --> 01:30:32,923
>> So continuing.

2777
01:30:32,923 --> 01:30:36,523
So again City Planning is doing

2778
01:30:36,827 --> 01:30:37,495
thoughtful work that takes into

2779
01:30:37,495 --> 01:30:38,162
account context context that

2780
01:30:38,162 --> 01:30:40,162
state legislators themselves

2781
01:30:40,664 --> 01:30:41,265
thought was important.

2782
01:30:41,265 --> 01:30:41,865
Sea level rise historic

2783
01:30:41,865 --> 01:30:44,265
resources very high fire

2784
01:30:45,903 --> 01:30:46,303
severity zones and low resource

2785
01:30:46,303 --> 01:30:47,300
communities.

2786
01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:50,603
And so they've done this same

2787
01:30:51,308 --> 01:30:52,420
thoughtful work when we did

2788
01:30:52,420 --> 01:30:52,710
the general plan community plan

2789
01:30:52,710 --> 01:30:55,110
updates and numerous housing

2790
01:30:56,380 --> 01:30:57,470
production programs, numerous

2791
01:30:57,470 --> 01:30:59,470
housing production programs

2792
01:31:01,151 --> 01:31:01,485
that have made us a statewide

2793
01:31:01,485 --> 01:31:02,119
example.

2794
01:31:02,119 --> 01:31:02,819
And it's good policy to

2795
01:31:02,819 --> 01:31:03,454
carefully consider the impacts

2796
01:31:03,454 --> 01:31:06,724
on each of those areas and

2797
01:31:06,724 --> 01:31:07,240
particularly the low resource

2798
01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:07,792
areas.

2799
01:31:07,792 --> 01:31:11,392
As we heard in some of

2800
01:31:11,562 --> 01:31:12,263
the opening comments, I think

2801
01:31:12,263 --> 01:31:14,465
the comments made by the group

2802
01:31:14,465 --> 01:31:15,980
from Hampshire aligns with what

2803
01:31:15,980 --> 01:31:18,980
we are doing here tonight.

2804
01:31:19,537 --> 01:31:20,304
Is that right?

2805
01:31:20,304 --> 01:31:21,500
>> Yeah, the city planning

2806
01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:23,405
department is recommending and

2807
01:31:24,407 --> 01:31:25,420
I want to be clear the city

2808
01:31:25,420 --> 01:31:25,676
planning department is not

2809
01:31:25,676 --> 01:31:26,343
recommending exemption of

2810
01:31:26,343 --> 01:31:29,343
the areas The city planning

2811
01:31:29,513 --> 01:31:30,214
department is recommending that

2812
01:31:30,214 --> 01:31:33,814
we take the additional time to

2813
01:31:34,385 --> 01:31:35,252
do the thoughtful planning to

2814
01:31:35,252 --> 01:31:38,855
be able to engage with a low

2815
01:31:38,855 --> 01:31:39,523
resource community that has

2816
01:31:39,523 --> 01:31:41,523
experienced injustices from

2817
01:31:44,161 --> 01:31:44,862
past zoning actions and any

2818
01:31:44,862 --> 01:31:47,262
opportunity to identify how

2819
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:49,834
this new development can best

2820
01:31:49,834 --> 01:31:50,500
improve those communities.

2821
01:31:50,500 --> 01:31:53,500
I think it's very important

2822
01:31:53,771 --> 01:31:54,438
especially as part of our

2823
01:31:54,438 --> 01:31:55,172
obligations to affirmatively

2824
01:31:55,172 --> 01:31:58,109
further for housing not just in

2825
01:31:58,109 --> 01:31:58,809
terms of the housing outcomes

2826
01:31:58,809 --> 01:31:59,477
but in terms of the inclusive

2827
01:31:59,477 --> 01:31:59,776
engagement process that that

2828
01:31:59,776 --> 01:32:01,776
takes.

2829
01:32:03,281 --> 01:32:03,880
>> Okay.

2830
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:04,515
Thank you for that.

2831
01:32:04,515 --> 01:32:05,116
Yeah, I think that is

2832
01:32:05,116 --> 01:32:05,783
particularly important.

2833
01:32:05,783 --> 01:32:08,552
I think we're learning some

2834
01:32:08,552 --> 01:32:09,253
valuable lessons over the past

2835
01:32:09,253 --> 01:32:12,253
few years and your leadership

2836
01:32:13,191 --> 01:32:13,858
and the mayor's leadership in

2837
01:32:13,858 --> 01:32:14,558
finally beginning to address

2838
01:32:14,558 --> 01:32:17,558
some of those historic issues.

2839
01:32:17,895 --> 01:32:18,562
I suspect Councilmember Foster,

2840
01:32:18,562 --> 01:32:22,162
if he was here would speak

2841
01:32:22,433 --> 01:32:22,933
eloquently about that much

2842
01:32:22,933 --> 01:32:23,801
better than I can.

2843
01:32:23,801 --> 01:32:27,401
And the context is we're just

2844
01:32:27,838 --> 01:32:28,538
slowing it down and planning be

2845
01:32:28,538 --> 01:32:31,538
thinking more carefully And if

2846
01:32:31,942 --> 01:32:32,676
I remember your and your

2847
01:32:32,676 --> 01:32:35,676
explanations we're going to hit

2848
01:32:37,248 --> 01:32:37,949
the same dance or the same unit

2849
01:32:37,949 --> 01:32:38,916
count that sb 79 calls for.

2850
01:32:38,916 --> 01:32:42,120
We're just going to be more

2851
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:42,787
thoughtful about where those

2852
01:32:42,787 --> 01:32:43,388
units actually could happen.

2853
01:32:43,388 --> 01:32:45,788
>> Yes, that is correct.

2854
01:32:47,525 --> 01:32:48,226
So staff's proposal is in line

2855
01:32:48,226 --> 01:32:50,626
with sb 79 which specifically

2856
01:32:51,863 --> 01:32:52,463
set forth the tod alternative

2857
01:32:52,463 --> 01:32:53,131
plan process as well as

2858
01:32:53,131 --> 01:32:55,131
specifically identified low

2859
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,175
resource areas to be phased as

2860
01:33:00,175 --> 01:33:00,872
long as it occurs within one

2861
01:33:00,872 --> 01:33:01,205
year of the city's housing

2862
01:33:01,205 --> 01:33:01,839
element.

2863
01:33:01,839 --> 01:33:04,239
The city's housing element

2864
01:33:04,975 --> 01:33:05,643
needs to be updated in 2031.

2865
01:33:05,643 --> 01:33:06,311
We anticipate that we will

2866
01:33:06,311 --> 01:33:09,311
address it during that time.

2867
01:33:10,140 --> 01:33:10,782
I do want to note that the 2031

2868
01:33:10,782 --> 01:33:13,618
or 2032 date because you have

2869
01:33:13,618 --> 01:33:14,419
one year after 2031 does not

2870
01:33:14,419 --> 01:33:18,392
mean that it won't be phased in

2871
01:33:18,392 --> 01:33:18,990
in other areas in a lot of

2872
01:33:18,990 --> 01:33:19,656
instances the densities

2873
01:33:19,656 --> 01:33:19,958
required under sb 79 already

2874
01:33:19,958 --> 01:33:21,958
exist.

2875
01:33:22,927 --> 01:33:23,561
The City Planning Department

2876
01:33:23,561 --> 01:33:24,229
and the City Council have

2877
01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:26,629
adopted many community plans

2878
01:33:27,399 --> 01:33:28,990
and up zoning over the past

2879
01:33:28,990 --> 01:33:28,766
just several years that far

2880
01:33:28,766 --> 01:33:31,166
exceed the sb 79 densities.

2881
01:33:33,571 --> 01:33:34,272
So it is not a it is not a full

2882
01:33:34,272 --> 01:33:37,272
delay because some are already

2883
01:33:37,775 --> 01:33:38,342
in place.

2884
01:33:38,342 --> 01:33:39,100
In addition to that,

2885
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,410
the Mid-City communities as

2886
01:33:42,814 --> 01:33:43,414
well as Otay Mesa Nester have

2887
01:33:43,414 --> 01:33:45,814
large low resource area

2888
01:33:47,685 --> 01:33:48,353
populations and census tracts.

2889
01:33:48,353 --> 01:33:48,987
We are currently updating a

2890
01:33:48,987 --> 01:33:49,520
three thoughtful planning

2891
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,520
process the Mid-City

2892
01:33:52,924 --> 01:33:53,625
Communities Plan update which

2893
01:33:53,625 --> 01:33:54,325
we anticipate bringing forward

2894
01:33:54,325 --> 01:33:57,729
to this Council within a year

2895
01:33:57,729 --> 01:33:58,329
and we will address sb 79

2896
01:33:58,329 --> 01:33:58,830
through that thoughtful

2897
01:33:58,830 --> 01:34:00,830
planning process.

2898
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:03,735
In addition, we've received

2899
01:34:03,735 --> 01:34:04,335
grant funding for Otay Mesa

2900
01:34:04,335 --> 01:34:04,669
Necessary Community Plan

2901
01:34:04,669 --> 01:34:06,669
Update.

2902
01:34:06,838 --> 01:34:07,671
This is very exciting.

2903
01:34:07,671 --> 01:34:10,976
We plan we have a signed grant

2904
01:34:10,976 --> 01:34:11,676
agreement and we will have

2905
01:34:11,676 --> 01:34:12,376
the opportunity to engage with

2906
01:34:12,376 --> 01:34:13,110
the community with respect to

2907
01:34:13,110 --> 01:34:15,411
the implementation in that

2908
01:34:16,681 --> 01:34:18,681
community prior to 2032.

2909
01:34:21,385 --> 01:34:22,200
>> Okay, more density than

2910
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:22,419
actually would be required

2911
01:34:22,419 --> 01:34:23,210
under sb 17.

2912
01:34:23,210 --> 01:34:23,488
I heard that correctly.

2913
01:34:23,488 --> 01:34:25,488
That is correct.

2914
01:34:26,324 --> 01:34:26,825
In many instances.

2915
01:34:26,825 --> 01:34:27,124
>> Many instances.

2916
01:34:27,124 --> 01:34:29,124
Okay.

2917
01:34:31,596 --> 01:34:32,296
So I'm going to wrap up if I

2918
01:34:32,296 --> 01:34:32,831
can take my three minutes with

2919
01:34:32,831 --> 01:34:35,231
a couple of things.

2920
01:34:36,334 --> 01:34:37,680
>> One, the question that I

2921
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:37,769
think Jeff asked about when can

2922
01:34:37,769 --> 01:34:40,769
you actually submit a project

2923
01:34:41,573 --> 01:34:42,106
under sb 79 sb 79 goes into

2924
01:34:42,106 --> 01:34:44,506
effect on JULY 1st.

2925
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:46,611
>> So regardless of

2926
01:34:46,611 --> 01:34:47,245
the effective date of

2927
01:34:47,245 --> 01:34:47,846
the city's ordinance then

2928
01:34:47,846 --> 01:34:50,246
application will not be

2929
01:34:51,416 --> 01:34:51,716
eligible for it until that

2930
01:34:51,716 --> 01:34:52,500
time.

2931
01:34:52,500 --> 01:34:52,417
>> Okay.

2932
01:34:52,417 --> 01:34:53,251
All right.

2933
01:34:53,251 --> 01:34:55,453
I hope that answers your

2934
01:34:55,453 --> 01:34:56,321
questions.

2935
01:34:56,321 --> 01:34:56,821
I'm going to comment and we'll

2936
01:34:56,821 --> 01:34:58,821
follow up later.

2937
01:34:59,558 --> 01:35:01,958
Sb 79 has provisions for

2938
01:35:03,795 --> 01:35:04,195
affordability components as

2939
01:35:04,195 --> 01:35:05,630
much as 13%.

2940
01:35:05,630 --> 01:35:08,630
As we actually developed this

2941
01:35:09,501 --> 01:35:12,904
out, what I want to know is can

2942
01:35:12,904 --> 01:35:13,337
we exempt sb 79 projects from

2943
01:35:13,337 --> 01:35:15,337
in lieu fees?

2944
01:35:17,275 --> 01:35:17,876
Because I'm really frustrated

2945
01:35:17,876 --> 01:35:18,477
that we don't get

2946
01:35:18,477 --> 01:35:20,877
the affordable for truly

2947
01:35:22,447 --> 01:35:23,148
affordable units When we get

2948
01:35:23,148 --> 01:35:25,548
these higher density projects

2949
01:35:26,718 --> 01:35:27,419
we get an accumulation of

2950
01:35:27,419 --> 01:35:28,153
dollars that hopefully someday

2951
01:35:28,153 --> 01:35:31,153
will produce a truly affordable

2952
01:35:32,824 --> 01:35:33,759
someplace.

2953
01:35:33,759 --> 01:35:36,695
But is that that's not an item

2954
01:35:36,695 --> 01:35:37,396
that's not up for tonight but

2955
01:35:37,396 --> 01:35:37,696
is that a conversation we can

2956
01:35:37,696 --> 01:35:38,196
have?

2957
01:35:38,196 --> 01:35:40,196
Yeah, I appreciate

2958
01:35:41,980 --> 01:35:41,699
the thoughtful question and I

2959
01:35:41,699 --> 01:35:44,990
look forward to more

2960
01:35:46,380 --> 01:35:46,705
conversations about these very

2961
01:35:46,705 --> 01:35:47,339
nuanced and important issues

2962
01:35:47,339 --> 01:35:47,772
that do affect outcomes in

2963
01:35:47,772 --> 01:35:49,772
the community.

2964
01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:52,210
The opportunity to address that

2965
01:35:52,210 --> 01:35:52,644
is through the tod alternative

2966
01:35:52,644 --> 01:35:52,945
plan process.

2967
01:35:52,945 --> 01:35:54,945
Okay.

2968
01:35:55,810 --> 01:35:55,681
I appreciate your careful

2969
01:35:55,681 --> 01:35:55,980
answer to that question.

2970
01:35:55,980 --> 01:35:56,648
Okay.

2971
01:35:56,648 --> 01:36:00,248
With that I think I've gone

2972
01:36:00,619 --> 01:36:01,320
through all my points and

2973
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:01,919
questions but with all that I

2974
01:36:01,919 --> 01:36:04,319
will move the staff

2975
01:36:05,123 --> 01:36:05,824
recommendation and we will now

2976
01:36:05,824 --> 01:36:06,391
go to Council member Campbell.

2977
01:36:06,391 --> 01:36:08,791
>> Thank you so much.

2978
01:36:10,229 --> 01:36:10,529
Council PRESIDENT And thank you

2979
01:36:10,529 --> 01:36:11,290
staff.

2980
01:36:11,290 --> 01:36:13,429
Thank you so much.

2981
01:36:14,899 --> 01:36:15,734
You've worked so hard on this I

2982
01:36:15,734 --> 01:36:19,334
know and have been dealing with

2983
01:36:19,705 --> 01:36:23,305
Sacramento quite a bit to get

2984
01:36:24,420 --> 01:36:24,743
everything ironed out and

2985
01:36:24,743 --> 01:36:25,343
explained as much as possible

2986
01:36:25,343 --> 01:36:27,743
without the sandag maps

2987
01:36:28,847 --> 01:36:29,981
available.

2988
01:36:29,981 --> 01:36:33,786
And so I am happy to second

2989
01:36:33,786 --> 01:36:34,119
the motion and move this item

2990
01:36:34,119 --> 01:36:34,753
forward.

2991
01:36:34,753 --> 01:36:37,753
It gives the city maximum

2992
01:36:39,291 --> 01:36:40,159
flexibility ity as this new

2993
01:36:40,159 --> 01:36:43,759
state law comes into effect and

2994
01:36:44,329 --> 01:36:44,730
really appreciate all your hard

2995
01:36:44,730 --> 01:36:45,664
work on it.

2996
01:36:45,664 --> 01:36:49,468
So I'm very much in support of

2997
01:36:49,468 --> 01:36:49,835
staff's recommendation and

2998
01:36:49,835 --> 01:36:50,269
thank you.

2999
01:36:50,269 --> 01:36:50,869
>> All right.

3000
01:36:50,869 --> 01:36:51,236
Thank you Councilmember

3001
01:36:51,236 --> 01:36:53,236
Campbell.

3002
01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:54,940
So you have a motion by myself

3003
01:36:54,940 --> 01:36:55,574
and a second by Councilmember

3004
01:36:55,574 --> 01:36:56,410
Campbell to move the staff

3005
01:36:56,410 --> 01:36:58,410
recommendation.

3006
01:36:58,610 --> 01:36:59,780
We will go next to Council

3007
01:36:59,780 --> 01:36:59,445
member Whitburn.

3008
01:36:59,445 --> 01:37:00,145
Thank you.

3009
01:37:00,145 --> 01:37:00,779
Council PRESIDENT I very much

3010
01:37:00,779 --> 01:37:03,415
want to thank the Planning

3011
01:37:03,415 --> 01:37:04,216
Department.

3012
01:37:04,216 --> 01:37:07,216
Sb 70 died was an unexpected

3013
01:37:07,886 --> 01:37:08,520
and significant lift for a

3014
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:09,154
department already working

3015
01:37:09,154 --> 01:37:12,154
through a full work plan.

3016
01:37:12,557 --> 01:37:13,325
I also want to thank everybody

3017
01:37:13,325 --> 01:37:13,993
who took the time to come to

3018
01:37:13,993 --> 01:37:16,393
tonight's meeting and share

3019
01:37:17,929 --> 01:37:18,563
your perspectives on the matter

3020
01:37:18,563 --> 01:37:21,563
before us this evening as

3021
01:37:22,267 --> 01:37:22,734
the presentation described must

3022
01:37:22,734 --> 01:37:23,469
be submitted.

3023
01:37:23,469 --> 01:37:24,169
It requires cities to approve

3024
01:37:24,169 --> 01:37:26,569
certain housing projects worth

3025
01:37:27,739 --> 01:37:28,307
at a quarter or a half mile of

3026
01:37:28,307 --> 01:37:28,941
major transit oriented

3027
01:37:28,941 --> 01:37:30,941
development stops outside

3028
01:37:32,244 --> 01:37:32,878
the zone for residential mixed

3029
01:37:32,878 --> 01:37:33,545
or commercial development.

3030
01:37:33,545 --> 01:37:36,816
It's a Diego that meets our

3031
01:37:36,816 --> 01:37:37,616
trolley stops and a small

3032
01:37:37,616 --> 01:37:40,616
number of dedicated bus lane

3033
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:41,987
sites that is targeted transit

3034
01:37:41,987 --> 01:37:43,987
focused growth.

3035
01:37:46,492 --> 01:37:47,260
That is exactly where we should

3036
01:37:47,260 --> 01:37:47,693
be building housing.

3037
01:37:47,693 --> 01:37:50,693
I have listened carefully to

3038
01:37:50,896 --> 01:37:51,664
the comments about how we

3039
01:37:51,664 --> 01:37:54,664
defined full time dedicated bus

3040
01:37:55,968 --> 01:37:58,368
lanes which corridors should

3041
01:37:59,872 --> 01:38:00,372
qualify as transit oriented

3042
01:38:00,372 --> 01:38:01,140
development stops.

3043
01:38:01,140 --> 01:38:03,540
I appreciate the thoughtfulness

3044
01:38:05,678 --> 01:38:06,479
of the argument put forward by

3045
01:38:06,479 --> 01:38:09,782
the Democrats and I find them

3046
01:38:09,782 --> 01:38:10,616
persuasive.

3047
01:38:10,616 --> 01:38:11,283
I do understand how reasonable

3048
01:38:11,283 --> 01:38:13,683
people could reach different

3049
01:38:14,820 --> 01:38:15,454
conclusions about which

3050
01:38:15,454 --> 01:38:17,454
corridors should qualify.

3051
01:38:19,858 --> 01:38:20,326
As tod stops but the change

3052
01:38:20,326 --> 01:38:20,959
being requested

3053
01:38:20,959 --> 01:38:23,959
the presentation by the b

3054
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:24,730
Democrats is specific to three

3055
01:38:24,730 --> 01:38:27,130
corridors that are either

3056
01:38:29,868 --> 01:38:30,536
entirely within my district or

3057
01:38:30,536 --> 01:38:31,203
which extends from District

3058
01:38:31,203 --> 01:38:33,603
three to Councilmember Isla

3059
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:34,340
Rivera's district District

3060
01:38:34,340 --> 01:38:35,174
nine.

3061
01:38:35,174 --> 01:38:39,244
When I look at those bus lanes

3062
01:38:39,244 --> 01:38:41,644
on Park Boulevard University

3063
01:38:43,382 --> 01:38:44,250
Avenue at El Codelco Boulevard

3064
01:38:44,250 --> 01:38:44,951
,I have always thought of them

3065
01:38:44,951 --> 01:38:47,351
as designated transit only

3066
01:38:48,820 --> 01:38:49,522
lanes.

3067
01:38:49,522 --> 01:38:50,890
I think most District three

3068
01:38:50,890 --> 01:38:52,489
residents see that as

3069
01:38:53,860 --> 01:38:54,427
designated transit only late

3070
01:38:54,427 --> 01:38:55,161
from the day they were

3071
01:38:55,161 --> 01:38:58,197
installed to today and this is

3072
01:38:58,197 --> 01:38:58,697
certainly where we want to be

3073
01:38:58,697 --> 01:38:59,399
building housing.

3074
01:38:59,399 --> 01:39:03,599
It is exactly where we need to

3075
01:39:05,671 --> 01:39:05,972
be building additional housing

3076
01:39:05,972 --> 01:39:06,706
.

3077
01:39:06,706 --> 01:39:07,440
I'm not going to get to

3078
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:07,740
the question about low resource

3079
01:39:07,740 --> 01:39:08,207
areas.

3080
01:39:08,207 --> 01:39:10,442
I will defer to

3081
01:39:10,442 --> 01:39:11,143
the councilmembers whose

3082
01:39:11,143 --> 01:39:11,446
districts are most impacted by

3083
01:39:11,446 --> 01:39:13,446
that.

3084
01:39:15,580 --> 01:39:16,181
But my district is most

3085
01:39:16,181 --> 01:39:16,916
impacted by facilitating

3086
01:39:16,916 --> 01:39:19,316
density along Alcohol Boulevard

3087
01:39:20,553 --> 01:39:20,920
University Avenue and Park

3088
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:21,654
Boulevard.

3089
01:39:21,654 --> 01:39:22,255
We heard from a lot of people

3090
01:39:22,255 --> 01:39:22,588
for District three this

3091
01:39:22,588 --> 01:39:24,588
evening.

3092
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:28,227
We want this a big ride to ask

3093
01:39:28,227 --> 01:39:30,290
for it a bit bit but I want to

3094
01:39:30,290 --> 01:39:30,329
ask the planning Department

3095
01:39:30,329 --> 01:39:32,329
first.

3096
01:39:35,335 --> 01:39:36,350
I would like to propose making

3097
01:39:36,350 --> 01:39:36,736
the what a bit better was

3098
01:39:36,736 --> 01:39:39,736
suggested a better dig recital

3099
01:39:39,939 --> 01:39:40,673
e and replacing it with

3100
01:39:40,673 --> 01:39:43,673
the language that would include

3101
01:39:43,676 --> 01:39:44,344
all bus stops served by full

3102
01:39:44,344 --> 01:39:45,110
time dedicated bus lanes at

3103
01:39:45,110 --> 01:39:47,110
Alcohol Boulevard University

3104
01:39:49,282 --> 01:39:50,160
Avenue and Park Boulevard.

3105
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:50,750
With bus service operating at a

3106
01:39:50,750 --> 01:39:53,750
frequency of 15 minutes or less

3107
01:39:53,753 --> 01:39:54,621
during weekday peak commute

3108
01:39:54,621 --> 01:39:58,821
hours And I want to ask if

3109
01:39:59,225 --> 01:39:59,525
there is any downside to doing

3110
01:39:59,525 --> 01:40:00,226
that.

3111
01:40:00,226 --> 01:40:03,796
And here's part of the reason

3112
01:40:03,796 --> 01:40:04,397
why Ultimately whether we use

3113
01:40:04,397 --> 01:40:05,970
the original language or

3114
01:40:05,970 --> 01:40:08,970
whether we use the amended

3115
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:10,403
language that I'm suggesting

3116
01:40:10,403 --> 01:40:10,837
we're going to do whatever said

3117
01:40:10,837 --> 01:40:12,837
that decides.

3118
01:40:15,141 --> 01:40:15,908
So what would be the harm?

3119
01:40:15,908 --> 01:40:18,745
It amended this to reflect and

3120
01:40:18,745 --> 01:40:19,345
to communicate to say I'd like

3121
01:40:19,345 --> 01:40:20,460
what we want with

3122
01:40:20,460 --> 01:40:20,847
the understanding that we will

3123
01:40:20,847 --> 01:40:25,470
be about to say a dags decision

3124
01:40:25,251 --> 01:40:26,419
Either way.

3125
01:40:26,419 --> 01:40:30,190
>> So I will in a minute defer

3126
01:40:30,190 --> 01:40:30,857
to the city attorney on this

3127
01:40:30,857 --> 01:40:31,558
specific language including

3128
01:40:31,558 --> 01:40:31,857
the references to the vehicle

3129
01:40:31,857 --> 01:40:33,857
code.

3130
01:40:35,361 --> 01:40:36,162
Which the city attorney has

3131
01:40:36,162 --> 01:40:39,162
advised are not applicable to

3132
01:40:40,233 --> 01:40:40,967
the sb 79 interpretation.

3133
01:40:40,967 --> 01:40:43,367
With respect to identification,

3134
01:40:45,438 --> 01:40:46,206
we do clearly state in Recital

3135
01:40:46,206 --> 01:40:46,472
f that we will use the standing

3136
01:40:46,472 --> 01:40:48,472
map.

3137
01:40:49,909 --> 01:40:50,610
It has been our understanding

3138
01:40:50,610 --> 01:40:51,244
that the language that we have

3139
01:40:51,244 --> 01:40:54,244
included in Recital e is

3140
01:40:54,381 --> 01:40:55,810
consistent with the sandag

3141
01:40:55,810 --> 01:40:57,481
interpretation although we do

3142
01:40:59,218 --> 01:41:00,860
not have the final maps.

3143
01:41:00,860 --> 01:41:03,686
I don't I haven't had an

3144
01:41:04,157 --> 01:41:04,857
opportunity to play out

3145
01:41:04,857 --> 01:41:05,158
the potential consequences of

3146
01:41:05,158 --> 01:41:07,158
that.

3147
01:41:08,762 --> 01:41:09,396
The map that is attached to

3148
01:41:09,396 --> 01:41:11,796
the ordinance that exempts

3149
01:41:12,498 --> 01:41:13,133
areas outside of the one mile

3150
01:41:13,133 --> 01:41:13,432
walk does not incorporate

3151
01:41:13,432 --> 01:41:14,134
those.

3152
01:41:14,134 --> 01:41:16,937
So I would say that that could

3153
01:41:16,937 --> 01:41:17,737
be a potential in consistency

3154
01:41:17,737 --> 01:41:18,371
that we do not have available

3155
01:41:18,371 --> 01:41:20,771
tonight for this council.

3156
01:41:22,175 --> 01:41:22,942
But I also defer to the city

3157
01:41:22,942 --> 01:41:25,942
attorney for their thoughts as

3158
01:41:31,418 --> 01:41:32,118
well as the City Planning

3159
01:41:32,118 --> 01:41:34,518
Department said ultimately if

3160
01:41:36,523 --> 01:41:37,223
we did amend the recital and

3161
01:41:37,223 --> 01:41:39,623
wait on sand bags

3162
01:41:40,627 --> 01:41:41,361
interpretation if they

3163
01:41:41,361 --> 01:41:43,761
disagreed or agreed considering

3164
01:41:45,498 --> 01:41:46,166
the maps are not being amended

3165
01:41:46,166 --> 01:41:47,330
tonight, it's very likely we

3166
01:41:47,330 --> 01:41:51,233
would have to bring it back to

3167
01:41:51,303 --> 01:41:51,972
clean it up with the map adding

3168
01:41:51,972 --> 01:41:52,272
all of those additional tmd

3169
01:41:52,272 --> 01:41:54,272
stops.

3170
01:41:56,142 --> 01:41:56,910
I also want to point out that

3171
01:41:56,910 --> 01:41:59,910
sb 79 requires the city to

3172
01:42:01,815 --> 01:42:02,482
submit the ordinance to cd for

3173
01:42:02,482 --> 01:42:05,482
review and approval and they

3174
01:42:05,752 --> 01:42:06,186
have not seen the addition of

3175
01:42:06,186 --> 01:42:06,854
this language.

3176
01:42:06,854 --> 01:42:09,854
If each city disagrees with

3177
01:42:10,230 --> 01:42:10,823
the addition of the vehicle

3178
01:42:10,823 --> 01:42:11,525
code that will have to come

3179
01:42:11,525 --> 01:42:15,125
back to city council no matter

3180
01:42:15,262 --> 01:42:16,620
what to be amended.

3181
01:42:16,620 --> 01:42:16,430
>> So that's just something to

3182
01:42:16,430 --> 01:42:17,331
consider.

3183
01:42:17,331 --> 01:42:20,534
So it would just have to go

3184
01:42:20,534 --> 01:42:20,901
back to city council if they

3185
01:42:20,901 --> 01:42:22,901
disagree?

3186
01:42:24,604 --> 01:42:26,604
>> Correct.

3187
01:42:29,309 --> 01:42:30,100
>> Well, I'm willing to propose

3188
01:42:30,100 --> 01:42:33,100
the amendment because I think

3189
01:42:33,981 --> 01:42:36,981
there is value in communicating

3190
01:42:40,187 --> 01:42:40,954
what we want And if there is

3191
01:42:40,954 --> 01:42:44,157
one thing that say Diego is a

3192
01:42:44,157 --> 01:42:44,857
bit clear about it is that

3193
01:42:44,857 --> 01:42:48,161
the cost of living is too high

3194
01:42:48,161 --> 01:42:51,761
and that the cost of housing

3195
01:42:53,633 --> 01:42:54,535
needs to be moderated and

3196
01:42:54,535 --> 01:42:55,168
the way we could do that is by

3197
01:42:55,168 --> 01:42:57,568
building more housing and

3198
01:42:57,938 --> 01:42:58,638
particularly in the places that

3199
01:42:58,638 --> 01:43:01,380
could accommodate more density

3200
01:43:02,976 --> 01:43:03,711
and particularly a log transit

3201
01:43:03,711 --> 01:43:04,344
corridors and Alcohol Boulevard

3202
01:43:04,344 --> 01:43:06,744
University Avenue and Park

3203
01:43:08,820 --> 01:43:08,782
Boulevard are perfect examples

3204
01:43:08,782 --> 01:43:12,382
of where we should be building

3205
01:43:12,719 --> 01:43:16,319
more housing and I hope that

3206
01:43:17,424 --> 01:43:21,624
said Dag and the oecd will see

3207
01:43:22,229 --> 01:43:23,197
it the same way.

3208
01:43:23,197 --> 01:43:27,397
So I will ask the maker of

3209
01:43:27,634 --> 01:43:28,301
the motion understanding that

3210
01:43:28,301 --> 01:43:31,538
said Dag is going to make

3211
01:43:31,538 --> 01:43:32,239
the determination either way

3212
01:43:32,239 --> 01:43:34,639
whether you would incorporate

3213
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:37,744
into the motion the abatement

3214
01:43:37,744 --> 01:43:40,744
to include San Diego trolley

3215
01:43:42,349 --> 01:43:43,490
stops at all bus stops served

3216
01:43:43,490 --> 01:43:43,750
by a full time dedicated bus

3217
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:46,150
lane Side Boulevard University

3218
01:43:46,787 --> 01:43:47,354
Avenue Park Boulevard with bus

3219
01:43:47,354 --> 01:43:48,880
service operating at a

3220
01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,880
frequency of 15 minutes or less

3221
01:43:51,191 --> 01:43:51,625
during weekday peak commute

3222
01:43:51,625 --> 01:43:53,625
hours.

3223
01:43:54,962 --> 01:43:55,696
>> Councilmember Whitburn This

3224
01:43:55,696 --> 01:43:56,363
is going to be the second

3225
01:43:56,363 --> 01:43:56,997
hardest thing I did tonight.

3226
01:43:56,997 --> 01:43:57,331
I'm going to respectfully

3227
01:43:57,331 --> 01:43:59,331
decline.

3228
01:44:00,634 --> 01:44:01,135
I appreciate what city planning

3229
01:44:01,135 --> 01:44:03,135
has brought forth.

3230
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:05,939
Somebody raised the question

3231
01:44:05,939 --> 01:44:06,607
Why are we here?

3232
01:44:06,607 --> 01:44:07,307
We don't do meetings on

3233
01:44:07,307 --> 01:44:09,707
Thursday nights and make

3234
01:44:10,344 --> 01:44:11,780
everybody come back.

3235
01:44:11,780 --> 01:44:14,780
I'm concerned about not getting

3236
01:44:15,549 --> 01:44:16,216
this locked in before JULY 1st

3237
01:44:16,216 --> 01:44:19,816
so that the totality of what

3238
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:20,654
we're bringing forward if we

3239
01:44:20,654 --> 01:44:24,254
want to come back and amendment

3240
01:44:24,291 --> 01:44:25,250
amend this later if we want San

3241
01:44:25,250 --> 01:44:28,250
that goes in that direction.

3242
01:44:29,496 --> 01:44:29,997
You'll have my full support but

3243
01:44:29,997 --> 01:44:30,697
I want to maintain

3244
01:44:30,697 --> 01:44:34,101
the integrity of this with and

3245
01:44:34,101 --> 01:44:34,769
not risk the very narrow

3246
01:44:34,769 --> 01:44:37,769
timeline we have to actually

3247
01:44:39,390 --> 01:44:39,739
get this ordinance adopted at

3248
01:44:39,739 --> 01:44:40,408
its second reading before JULY

3249
01:44:40,408 --> 01:44:40,741
1st and get it into h City's

3250
01:44:40,741 --> 01:44:42,741
hands.

3251
01:44:44,311 --> 01:44:44,679
So I appreciate you MAY not

3252
01:44:44,679 --> 01:44:45,378
like that.

3253
01:44:45,378 --> 01:44:48,215
I know the crowd is not going

3254
01:44:48,215 --> 01:44:48,916
like that but that's really

3255
01:44:48,916 --> 01:44:49,517
the reason I'm going to stand

3256
01:44:49,517 --> 01:44:51,517
behind City Planning's

3257
01:44:53,220 --> 01:44:53,521
recommendation and I understand

3258
01:44:53,521 --> 01:44:54,255
that.

3259
01:44:54,255 --> 01:44:54,855
I appreciate that and I respect

3260
01:44:54,855 --> 01:44:57,255
your rationale for that.

3261
01:44:58,592 --> 01:45:01,592
I certainly we respect our

3262
01:45:03,230 --> 01:45:03,867
planning department and if

3263
01:45:03,867 --> 01:45:04,465
there's one thing that our

3264
01:45:04,465 --> 01:45:06,465
planning department has

3265
01:45:06,867 --> 01:45:09,267
consistently said it's proposal

3266
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:12,739
and I appreciate that

3267
01:45:12,739 --> 01:45:13,340
understanding that this will

3268
01:45:13,340 --> 01:45:15,740
not be incorporated into

3269
01:45:16,777 --> 01:45:18,777
the motion tonight.

3270
01:45:22,490 --> 01:45:22,782
Let me just say to say that as

3271
01:45:22,782 --> 01:45:23,451
the council member for District

3272
01:45:23,451 --> 01:45:26,353
three it on behalf of Betty

3273
01:45:26,353 --> 01:45:27,121
Berry of Bike constituents we

3274
01:45:27,121 --> 01:45:30,121
would very much appreciate your

3275
01:45:31,392 --> 01:45:33,392
consideration of incorporating

3276
01:45:36,197 --> 01:45:36,931
the changes that have been

3277
01:45:36,931 --> 01:45:37,298
discussed here to your ultimate

3278
01:45:37,298 --> 01:45:39,298
decision.

3279
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:41,368
We think it is the right thing

3280
01:45:41,368 --> 01:45:42,136
to do.

3281
01:45:42,136 --> 01:45:42,637
We think it is the right thing

3282
01:45:42,637 --> 01:45:43,337
to do for housing.

3283
01:45:43,337 --> 01:45:45,873
We think it is the right thing

3284
01:45:45,873 --> 01:45:46,641
to do for transit and we think

3285
01:45:46,641 --> 01:45:47,410
it is the right thing to do for

3286
01:45:47,410 --> 01:45:47,475
San Diego's.

3287
01:45:47,475 --> 01:45:49,377
>> Thank you.

3288
01:45:49,377 --> 01:45:51,377
Council PRESIDENT.

3289
01:45:53,881 --> 01:45:54,749
>> I think Councilmember Weprin

3290
01:45:54,749 --> 01:45:55,116
I'll give him a bigger round of

3291
01:45:55,116 --> 01:45:57,116
applause.

3292
01:46:05,859 --> 01:46:06,627
He deserves more.

3293
01:46:06,627 --> 01:46:09,627
A fearless and a tireless

3294
01:46:11,265 --> 01:46:12,330
advocate for a housing as we

3295
01:46:12,330 --> 01:46:12,500
can see in many, many parts of

3296
01:46:12,500 --> 01:46:14,500
District three.

3297
01:46:16,671 --> 01:46:17,371
With that we will go next to

3298
01:46:17,371 --> 01:46:19,371
Councilmember Yvonne Wolford.

3299
01:46:20,675 --> 01:46:21,376
>> Thank you very much and

3300
01:46:21,376 --> 01:46:24,376
thank you to our planning

3301
01:46:25,246 --> 01:46:25,546
department for doing this work

3302
01:46:25,546 --> 01:46:26,247
.

3303
01:46:26,247 --> 01:46:26,981
Thank you to everybody who's

3304
01:46:26,981 --> 01:46:27,614
come in to weigh in on this and

3305
01:46:27,614 --> 01:46:30,140
the very thorough analysis

3306
01:46:30,518 --> 01:46:31,352
which you gave.

3307
01:46:31,352 --> 01:46:32,190
I mean I also tend to agree

3308
01:46:32,190 --> 01:46:34,190
with Councilmember Whitburn

3309
01:46:35,390 --> 01:46:36,424
that these are dedicated bus

3310
01:46:36,424 --> 01:46:40,280
lanes and I do see how they

3311
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:40,428
would be included in

3312
01:46:40,428 --> 01:46:42,428
the statute.

3313
01:46:44,966 --> 01:46:45,699
However, the recitals simply

3314
01:46:45,699 --> 01:46:46,534
says they're not anticipated to

3315
01:46:46,534 --> 01:46:50,400
be and so that doesn't lock up

3316
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:50,939
in stone.

3317
01:46:50,939 --> 01:46:51,606
It just says at this time we

3318
01:46:51,606 --> 01:46:54,606
don't believe that they are.

3319
01:46:54,942 --> 01:46:55,676
But you could change your mind.

3320
01:46:55,676 --> 01:46:56,377
And so I think what we're

3321
01:46:56,377 --> 01:46:59,113
hearing on the dais is that if

3322
01:46:59,113 --> 01:46:59,914
especially if sandag decides

3323
01:46:59,914 --> 01:47:00,247
that they should be, then we

3324
01:47:00,247 --> 01:47:01,148
should.

3325
01:47:01,148 --> 01:47:04,652
But to me it does seem to be a

3326
01:47:04,652 --> 01:47:05,487
dedicated bus lane.

3327
01:47:05,487 --> 01:47:05,920
I mean I don't drive in them

3328
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,920
because of it.

3329
01:47:09,900 --> 01:47:09,491
So I understand you're going

3330
01:47:09,491 --> 01:47:10,258
back.

3331
01:47:10,258 --> 01:47:10,925
So I would I would support

3332
01:47:10,925 --> 01:47:13,325
Councilor Woodburn's idea to

3333
01:47:14,329 --> 01:47:15,960
communicate this.

3334
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:15,563
But I also understand council

3335
01:47:15,563 --> 01:47:16,231
presidents too.

3336
01:47:16,231 --> 01:47:16,898
You know, we're on a strict

3337
01:47:16,898 --> 01:47:17,599
timeline and if we don't get

3338
01:47:17,599 --> 01:47:20,599
something done then the whole

3339
01:47:21,836 --> 01:47:24,236
thing will fall apart.

3340
01:47:26,741 --> 01:47:27,341
I also have questions about

3341
01:47:27,341 --> 01:47:27,742
the impact of increased

3342
01:47:27,742 --> 01:47:28,476
development.

3343
01:47:28,476 --> 01:47:32,280
So you know here in my district

3344
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:32,981
we don't have any transit to be

3345
01:47:32,981 --> 01:47:33,648
honest, you know, So we don't

3346
01:47:33,648 --> 01:47:34,349
we don't really this is not

3347
01:47:34,349 --> 01:47:36,851
going to affect District five.

3348
01:47:36,851 --> 01:47:37,418
We are trying to do our part

3349
01:47:37,418 --> 01:47:38,860
for the environment by

3350
01:47:38,860 --> 01:47:38,720
switching to clean emissions

3351
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:39,870
vehicles and putting in ev

3352
01:47:39,870 --> 01:47:41,870
chargers.

3353
01:47:41,823 --> 01:47:42,457
We have one great bus that goes

3354
01:47:42,457 --> 01:47:43,240
up and down the 15 freeway

3355
01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,424
Would that's about it.

3356
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:46,828
So I agree with MR. Krieger

3357
01:47:46,828 --> 01:47:47,195
that we do need cars still in

3358
01:47:47,195 --> 01:47:49,195
the city.

3359
01:47:51,299 --> 01:47:52,000
However, when we do have

3360
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,400
increased development which we

3361
01:47:58,406 --> 01:47:59,141
do we've taken thousands of

3362
01:47:59,141 --> 01:47:59,841
units of housing in d five in

3363
01:47:59,841 --> 01:48:00,174
essentially Skeeters crime out

3364
01:48:00,174 --> 01:48:01,109
in area.

3365
01:48:01,109 --> 01:48:01,977
I actually just had a town hall

3366
01:48:01,977 --> 01:48:05,847
meeting in a cul de sac a few

3367
01:48:05,847 --> 01:48:06,548
weeks ago because it was

3368
01:48:06,548 --> 01:48:07,215
the new fire evacuation route

3369
01:48:07,215 --> 01:48:07,649
and we figured why not just

3370
01:48:07,649 --> 01:48:08,383
have it there?

3371
01:48:08,383 --> 01:48:11,553
I was the one we conditioned in

3372
01:48:11,553 --> 01:48:12,287
junipers and we brought

3373
01:48:12,287 --> 01:48:12,854
the fire department, the police

3374
01:48:12,854 --> 01:48:13,588
department Hundreds of

3375
01:48:13,588 --> 01:48:15,624
residents came out standing in.

3376
01:48:15,624 --> 01:48:16,258
It's cold in fact to talk about

3377
01:48:16,258 --> 01:48:16,992
what happened to the tail

3378
01:48:16,992 --> 01:48:20,695
lights on fire And it got a

3379
01:48:20,695 --> 01:48:21,296
little heated because we had

3380
01:48:21,296 --> 01:48:21,963
the Wood Creek fire came

3381
01:48:21,963 --> 01:48:24,963
through there and you know,

3382
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:25,533
burned many of these people's

3383
01:48:25,533 --> 01:48:26,168
houses.

3384
01:48:26,168 --> 01:48:26,468
So it's not theoretical to

3385
01:48:26,468 --> 01:48:28,468
them.

3386
01:48:29,571 --> 01:48:30,372
They've already rebuilt But so

3387
01:48:30,372 --> 01:48:33,775
one of my questions is you know

3388
01:48:33,775 --> 01:48:34,542
our diff is regardless of

3389
01:48:34,542 --> 01:48:37,542
whether we have sb 79 or

3390
01:48:39,180 --> 01:48:39,915
the more inclusive programs

3391
01:48:39,915 --> 01:48:40,749
we've already done, our deficit

3392
01:48:40,749 --> 01:48:43,785
seem to not be keeping up with

3393
01:48:43,785 --> 01:48:44,353
the infrastructure we need to

3394
01:48:44,353 --> 01:48:45,530
support this density.

3395
01:48:45,530 --> 01:48:45,754
We've had a couple of projects

3396
01:48:45,754 --> 01:48:47,889
in d five where the parks are

3397
01:48:47,889 --> 01:48:48,490
not being built because the if

3398
01:48:48,490 --> 01:48:49,157
these wildly were under

3399
01:48:49,157 --> 01:48:49,551
calculated how much it would

3400
01:48:49,551 --> 01:48:51,551
cost.

3401
01:48:53,161 --> 01:48:53,929
So I'm wondering what we're

3402
01:48:53,929 --> 01:48:57,532
going to do about Diffuse if we

3403
01:48:57,532 --> 01:48:58,400
take on more development.

3404
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,400
The city does have citywide

3405
01:49:02,471 --> 01:49:03,238
development impact fees that

3406
01:49:03,238 --> 01:49:03,672
are in place and have been for

3407
01:49:03,672 --> 01:49:05,672
several years.

3408
01:49:06,742 --> 01:49:07,409
Those replace communities

3409
01:49:07,409 --> 01:49:07,709
specific development impact

3410
01:49:07,709 --> 01:49:09,709
fees.

3411
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:11,113
Part of the benefit of having

3412
01:49:11,113 --> 01:49:11,847
four dedicated asset base

3413
01:49:11,847 --> 01:49:14,847
development impact fees is that

3414
01:49:15,651 --> 01:49:16,351
it enables city staff to update

3415
01:49:16,351 --> 01:49:19,951
the next two studies for them

3416
01:49:20,589 --> 01:49:24,920
at a much more frequent rate

3417
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:24,860
than we were to when we had

3418
01:49:24,860 --> 01:49:25,360
over 40 different fees based on

3419
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,360
four communities.

3420
01:49:28,564 --> 01:49:29,263
City Planning Department does

3421
01:49:29,263 --> 01:49:29,965
have it in its work program

3422
01:49:29,965 --> 01:49:33,368
right now to be updating those

3423
01:49:33,368 --> 01:49:34,690
studies and we anticipate being

3424
01:49:34,690 --> 01:49:34,837
able to reach out to council

3425
01:49:34,837 --> 01:49:38,437
offices in the coming months to

3426
01:49:38,807 --> 01:49:39,307
discuss those more for future

3427
01:49:39,307 --> 01:49:41,307
action at council.

3428
01:49:43,178 --> 01:49:43,845
This particular item as you are

3429
01:49:43,845 --> 01:49:44,446
aware does not include that

3430
01:49:44,446 --> 01:49:46,446
discussion but citywide

3431
01:49:48,317 --> 01:49:49,170
department impact fees do apply

3432
01:49:49,170 --> 01:49:49,585
to all new development unless

3433
01:49:49,585 --> 01:49:51,585
certain exemptions are

3434
01:49:52,254 --> 01:49:53,122
specified in the ordinance.

3435
01:49:53,122 --> 01:49:53,822
I do want to take and I

3436
01:49:53,822 --> 01:49:54,156
apologize for taking your time

3437
01:49:54,156 --> 01:49:56,156
on this.

3438
01:49:57,326 --> 01:50:00,926
I do think it's important to

3439
01:50:01,296 --> 01:50:01,897
note that sb 79 you know to

3440
01:50:01,897 --> 01:50:04,297
everybody here that's in

3441
01:50:05,299 --> 01:50:06,268
supportive housing we are to

3442
01:50:06,268 --> 01:50:09,571
and it is a little bit of a

3443
01:50:09,571 --> 01:50:10,720
false narrative to say it's sb

3444
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:10,839
79 or no housing.

3445
01:50:10,839 --> 01:50:11,707
We have lots of other housing

3446
01:50:11,707 --> 01:50:15,307
programs in place and in many

3447
01:50:15,411 --> 01:50:16,780
instances a lot of these places

3448
01:50:16,780 --> 01:50:18,478
have exceeded the densities

3449
01:50:19,248 --> 01:50:20,115
that are called for by sb 79.

3450
01:50:20,115 --> 01:50:23,715
And we are also rapidly you

3451
01:50:24,286 --> 01:50:24,953
know with the urgency updating

3452
01:50:24,953 --> 01:50:27,953
our capacity for new homes

3453
01:50:29,191 --> 01:50:29,458
without needing to implement sb

3454
01:50:29,458 --> 01:50:30,920
79.

3455
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:30,960
So you know for everybody

3456
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,796
that's you know kind of I

3457
01:50:33,796 --> 01:50:34,496
because I hear it right And I

3458
01:50:34,496 --> 01:50:35,197
think it's important for us to

3459
01:50:35,197 --> 01:50:37,597
acknowledge the importance of

3460
01:50:38,234 --> 01:50:39,680
housing in these locations.

3461
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:42,668
These are areas that we agree

3462
01:50:43,606 --> 01:50:44,273
are good for housing and our

3463
01:50:44,273 --> 01:50:46,673
housing our community plans

3464
01:50:47,810 --> 01:50:48,511
have shown that by adding

3465
01:50:48,511 --> 01:50:49,382
the densities there and we do

3466
01:50:49,382 --> 01:50:53,582
continue to do that as a good

3467
01:50:56,510 --> 01:50:56,370
actor city in the housing space

3468
01:50:56,370 --> 01:50:56,652
.

3469
01:50:56,652 --> 01:50:57,352
Yes.

3470
01:50:57,352 --> 01:50:58,220
No, completely agreed And I

3471
01:50:58,220 --> 01:51:00,856
also think there's a huge value

3472
01:51:00,856 --> 01:51:01,590
in local planning.

3473
01:51:01,590 --> 01:51:02,291
I don't think that Sacramento

3474
01:51:02,291 --> 01:51:05,270
should plan everything for us

3475
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:05,761
because like I said, we know

3476
01:51:05,761 --> 01:51:06,162
where some of the evacuation

3477
01:51:06,162 --> 01:51:06,896
routes are.

3478
01:51:06,896 --> 01:51:10,132
Colorado is only going to be a

3479
01:51:10,132 --> 01:51:10,800
two lane road and Scripps Ranch

3480
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:11,667
for a very long time.

3481
01:51:11,667 --> 01:51:12,368
And so if we take 500 houses

3482
01:51:12,368 --> 01:51:12,901
moored there, how are we going

3483
01:51:12,901 --> 01:51:14,901
to evacuate people?

3484
01:51:15,237 --> 01:51:15,704
So I do understand that we need

3485
01:51:15,704 --> 01:51:16,405
local planning.

3486
01:51:16,405 --> 01:51:18,974
But you're right, we have been

3487
01:51:18,974 --> 01:51:19,775
more permissive than many other

3488
01:51:19,775 --> 01:51:20,376
cities and we do need housing.

3489
01:51:20,376 --> 01:51:21,900
I understand that too,

3490
01:51:21,900 --> 01:51:23,900
especially senior housing.

3491
01:51:24,413 --> 01:51:25,114
If we can build more of that we

3492
01:51:25,114 --> 01:51:25,815
need dedicated senior housing

3493
01:51:25,815 --> 01:51:26,349
especially up in my district.

3494
01:51:26,349 --> 01:51:27,683
That would be great.

3495
01:51:27,683 --> 01:51:28,384
I'd like to move into it now

3496
01:51:28,384 --> 01:51:28,684
but I've been told them too

3497
01:51:28,684 --> 01:51:30,684
young.

3498
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:33,889
So what I really wanted to hear

3499
01:51:33,889 --> 01:51:37,489
what we're going to do with

3500
01:51:37,860 --> 01:51:38,594
with tiff is coming up soon.

3501
01:51:38,594 --> 01:51:39,261
i guess there we're not going

3502
01:51:39,261 --> 01:51:39,729
to have our diffuse updated

3503
01:51:39,729 --> 01:51:41,729
before JULY 1st.

3504
01:51:42,398 --> 01:51:42,698
We will not.

3505
01:51:42,698 --> 01:51:43,465
Okay.

3506
01:51:43,465 --> 01:51:45,865
Um I'm especially concerned

3507
01:51:48,103 --> 01:51:51,103
about parks and fire stations

3508
01:51:52,542 --> 01:51:53,309
so I have somewhat good news

3509
01:51:53,309 --> 01:51:56,909
for you Council member We will

3510
01:51:56,912 --> 01:51:57,647
be bringing the dif annual

3511
01:51:57,647 --> 01:51:58,481
report to this council probably

3512
01:51:58,481 --> 01:52:02,552
in a matter of a couple of

3513
01:52:02,552 --> 01:52:03,252
weeks and so we can have a much

3514
01:52:03,252 --> 01:52:05,652
more robust conversation about

3515
01:52:06,289 --> 01:52:06,889
the available funding and any

3516
01:52:06,889 --> 01:52:07,222
potential changes going

3517
01:52:07,222 --> 01:52:07,557
forward.

3518
01:52:07,557 --> 01:52:07,857
>> Okay.

3519
01:52:07,857 --> 01:52:08,223
Okay.

3520
01:52:08,223 --> 01:52:10,223
Thank you.

3521
01:52:11,160 --> 01:52:11,961
I appreciate it.

3522
01:52:11,961 --> 01:52:12,628
I appreciate all the work and

3523
01:52:12,628 --> 01:52:13,929
the questions my colleagues

3524
01:52:13,929 --> 01:52:16,929
asked and I'll support those.

3525
01:52:19,335 --> 01:52:19,903
>> Thank you.

3526
01:52:19,903 --> 01:52:20,536
>> Thank you.

3527
01:52:20,536 --> 01:52:21,237
Councilmember Van Walbert.

3528
01:52:21,237 --> 01:52:21,537
We'll go next to Councilmember

3529
01:52:21,537 --> 01:52:21,904
Campo.

3530
01:52:21,904 --> 01:52:23,740
Thank you.

3531
01:52:23,740 --> 01:52:24,407
Council PRESIDENT.

3532
01:52:24,407 --> 01:52:25,400
Thank you to members of

3533
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:25,741
the public who came in and

3534
01:52:25,741 --> 01:52:26,309
spoke today and the members of

3535
01:52:26,309 --> 01:52:28,310
the public who came in

3536
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:28,745
virtually as well for this late

3537
01:52:28,745 --> 01:52:29,412
night meeting.

3538
01:52:29,412 --> 01:52:30,145
I want to thank the Planning

3539
01:52:30,145 --> 01:52:32,949
Department for their quick work

3540
01:52:32,949 --> 01:52:33,516
given the timelines that we

3541
01:52:33,516 --> 01:52:34,484
have in front of us.

3542
01:52:34,484 --> 01:52:37,420
I know that this was on top of

3543
01:52:37,420 --> 01:52:38,354
all their extra work.

3544
01:52:38,354 --> 01:52:39,221
I think that as as we see

3545
01:52:39,221 --> 01:52:42,759
the approach in front of us a

3546
01:52:42,759 --> 01:52:43,392
measured one one that we know

3547
01:52:43,392 --> 01:52:43,726
is not entirely within our

3548
01:52:43,726 --> 01:52:45,726
control.

3549
01:52:47,697 --> 01:52:48,398
And hearing from the public and

3550
01:52:48,398 --> 01:52:51,398
we've learned from things like

3551
01:52:51,968 --> 01:52:52,669
the edu bonus program and other

3552
01:52:52,669 --> 01:52:53,269
policies that well-intentioned

3553
01:52:53,269 --> 01:52:55,669
policies can still have

3554
01:52:56,973 --> 01:52:57,540
unintended consequences.

3555
01:52:57,540 --> 01:52:58,307
And so whether that's

3556
01:52:58,307 --> 01:53:01,307
speculation in a low resource

3557
01:53:01,811 --> 01:53:05,411
area or projects that do not

3558
01:53:06,816 --> 01:53:07,517
take into account the necessary

3559
01:53:07,517 --> 01:53:08,184
infrastructure for emergencies

3560
01:53:08,184 --> 01:53:10,584
as Councilmember von Wilbur

3561
01:53:11,921 --> 01:53:12,322
pointed out, we have to be very

3562
01:53:12,322 --> 01:53:13,220
deliberate.

3563
01:53:13,220 --> 01:53:16,359
And I think what Blum has put

3564
01:53:16,359 --> 01:53:16,959
in front of us and your team is

3565
01:53:16,959 --> 01:53:17,594
very, very deliberate.

3566
01:53:17,594 --> 01:53:19,994
The alternative plan that

3567
01:53:21,231 --> 01:53:22,310
you've got here it buys us time

3568
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:25,901
so that we can be precise at

3569
01:53:25,901 --> 01:53:26,602
the neighborhood level which is

3570
01:53:26,602 --> 01:53:27,360
what we hear from our

3571
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:27,670
neighborhoods.

3572
01:53:27,670 --> 01:53:30,640
It's what we hear from our

3573
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:31,341
community planning groups and

3574
01:53:31,341 --> 01:53:32,410
you know, the state will tell

3575
01:53:32,410 --> 01:53:35,511
us to build more near transit.

3576
01:53:35,511 --> 01:53:36,279
I've supported many projects

3577
01:53:36,279 --> 01:53:36,945
near transit and we can grow

3578
01:53:36,945 --> 01:53:39,345
those thoughtfully and with

3579
01:53:40,650 --> 01:53:41,351
the neighbors at the center of

3580
01:53:41,351 --> 01:53:42,510
those changes And I absolutely

3581
01:53:42,510 --> 01:53:42,618
admire Councilmember Whitburn

3582
01:53:42,618 --> 01:53:45,180
for advocating for his

3583
01:53:45,889 --> 01:53:46,322
neighbors and the people his

3584
01:53:46,322 --> 01:53:48,322
constituents.

3585
01:53:49,492 --> 01:53:50,259
If there's if there's one

3586
01:53:50,259 --> 01:53:50,994
person who has close to as much

3587
01:53:50,994 --> 01:53:54,230
transit in his district as him,

3588
01:53:54,230 --> 01:53:54,631
it might be me with the green

3589
01:53:54,631 --> 01:53:55,331
Line.

3590
01:53:55,331 --> 01:53:55,965
And I love seeing transit

3591
01:53:55,965 --> 01:53:58,365
oriented housing going up.

3592
01:53:59,102 --> 01:53:59,802
We've cut ribbons together and

3593
01:53:59,802 --> 01:54:03,273
right now a lot of neighbors

3594
01:54:03,273 --> 01:54:03,973
throughout San Diego are

3595
01:54:03,973 --> 01:54:06,373
rightfully concerned a process

3596
01:54:07,844 --> 01:54:08,611
that they had a lot more say in

3597
01:54:08,611 --> 01:54:09,312
for for a long time now

3598
01:54:09,312 --> 01:54:11,712
Sacramento is is making

3599
01:54:13,182 --> 01:54:13,983
decisions there.

3600
01:54:13,983 --> 01:54:14,617
We're seeing neighbors that are

3601
01:54:14,617 --> 01:54:17,170
concerned with how they'll

3602
01:54:17,954 --> 01:54:18,655
evacuate or in an emergency and

3603
01:54:18,655 --> 01:54:19,355
if maybe their neighbors are

3604
01:54:19,355 --> 01:54:22,726
going to take a property that

3605
01:54:22,726 --> 01:54:23,493
is worth a lot more Now and

3606
01:54:23,493 --> 01:54:24,160
sell it to an investor if

3607
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,160
the sidewalk and pipes will

3608
01:54:27,863 --> 01:54:28,565
hold up for new development.

3609
01:54:28,565 --> 01:54:29,232
They're concerned about losing

3610
01:54:29,232 --> 01:54:29,865
the life that they've worked

3611
01:54:29,865 --> 01:54:32,836
hard for and save for and

3612
01:54:32,836 --> 01:54:33,702
invested in and maintained and

3613
01:54:33,702 --> 01:54:34,370
want to pass on to their family

3614
01:54:34,370 --> 01:54:34,738
members.

3615
01:54:34,738 --> 01:54:37,207
And you can be concerned about

3616
01:54:37,207 --> 01:54:37,907
those real possibilities.

3617
01:54:37,907 --> 01:54:38,642
But we have to acknowledge

3618
01:54:38,642 --> 01:54:41,711
the sheer number of people that

3619
01:54:41,711 --> 01:54:42,579
don't have that safe space yet

3620
01:54:42,579 --> 01:54:43,280
for them, that home for them

3621
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,130
that can barely afford to live

3622
01:54:44,130 --> 01:54:47,484
here let alone own a home.

3623
01:54:47,484 --> 01:54:48,185
Those individuals and families

3624
01:54:48,185 --> 01:54:48,918
are rightfully concerned that

3625
01:54:48,918 --> 01:54:52,188
the opportunity to live in this

3626
01:54:52,188 --> 01:54:52,955
city will be unattainable.

3627
01:54:52,955 --> 01:54:53,657
I think our planning department

3628
01:54:53,657 --> 01:54:56,960
does a good job of trying to

3629
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:57,394
create those attainable

3630
01:54:57,394 --> 01:54:58,280
opportunities.

3631
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:01,628
And I would just point to

3632
01:55:02,990 --> 01:55:02,832
the fact that the State of

3633
01:55:02,832 --> 01:55:05,832
California could really get rid

3634
01:55:06,470 --> 01:55:07,171
of some serious laws that are

3635
01:55:07,171 --> 01:55:10,771
in the way of building new

3636
01:55:11,141 --> 01:55:11,808
condos, of building purchasable

3637
01:55:11,808 --> 01:55:14,208
properties and whether it's

3638
01:55:16,446 --> 01:55:17,146
people who want to use

3639
01:55:17,146 --> 01:55:17,881
litigation to delay all that,

3640
01:55:17,881 --> 01:55:20,881
whether it's attorneys who have

3641
01:55:22,190 --> 01:55:22,552
big fees to make Well after

3642
01:55:22,552 --> 01:55:23,287
buildings are built.

3643
01:55:23,287 --> 01:55:24,210
There's lots of things that are

3644
01:55:24,210 --> 01:55:26,290
in the way of homeownership and

3645
01:55:26,290 --> 01:55:27,230
I certainly don't think that

3646
01:55:27,230 --> 01:55:27,724
the city planning department is

3647
01:55:27,724 --> 01:55:30,794
in the way of homeownership at

3648
01:55:30,794 --> 01:55:31,561
this point.

3649
01:55:31,561 --> 01:55:31,946
This item simply put gives us

3650
01:55:31,946 --> 01:55:32,662
the time.

3651
01:55:32,662 --> 01:55:35,766
i like the way that the council

3652
01:55:35,766 --> 01:55:36,533
PRESIDENT Put it.

3653
01:55:36,533 --> 01:55:37,134
We're going to get everyone to

3654
01:55:37,134 --> 01:55:40,134
the table, give input to

3655
01:55:40,637 --> 01:55:41,271
the neighbors in these

3656
01:55:41,271 --> 01:55:41,972
neighborhoods who are just

3657
01:55:41,972 --> 01:55:44,972
asking to be heard throughout

3658
01:55:45,709 --> 01:55:46,309
the process and that those who

3659
01:55:46,309 --> 01:55:46,944
are still not aware that

3660
01:55:46,944 --> 01:55:47,678
changes MAY be coming down

3661
01:55:47,678 --> 01:55:50,413
the line to get get their

3662
01:55:50,413 --> 01:55:51,140
voices heard.

3663
01:55:51,140 --> 01:55:53,414
I have one question.

3664
01:55:54,170 --> 01:55:54,785
If we did nothing today, what

3665
01:55:54,785 --> 01:55:55,418
would happen on JULY 1st if

3666
01:55:55,418 --> 01:55:58,418
the council does not take

3667
01:55:59,456 --> 01:56:00,390
action today?

3668
01:56:00,390 --> 01:56:03,727
On JULY 1st sb 79 will phase in

3669
01:56:03,727 --> 01:56:04,494
in all areas across the city

3670
01:56:04,494 --> 01:56:05,195
and so the city will be

3671
01:56:05,195 --> 01:56:05,862
required to issue permits for

3672
01:56:05,862 --> 01:56:08,262
the densities identified in

3673
01:56:09,299 --> 01:56:10,330
the staff materials and that

3674
01:56:10,330 --> 01:56:10,634
would be regardless of whatever

3675
01:56:10,634 --> 01:56:13,634
the sandag map is that's

3676
01:56:14,710 --> 01:56:14,538
eventually published that we've

3677
01:56:14,538 --> 01:56:15,205
been discussing.

3678
01:56:15,205 --> 01:56:15,772
It would still be contingent

3679
01:56:15,772 --> 01:56:18,172
upon the sandag maps.

3680
01:56:18,575 --> 01:56:19,109
It would phase in in the areas

3681
01:56:19,109 --> 01:56:19,510
where the sandag map

3682
01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:21,510
identifies.

3683
01:56:23,147 --> 01:56:23,847
We don't have that map yet but

3684
01:56:23,847 --> 01:56:24,481
we do anticipate that it will

3685
01:56:24,481 --> 01:56:24,781
come out before JULY 1st.

3686
01:56:24,781 --> 01:56:25,181
Okay.

3687
01:56:25,181 --> 01:56:27,181
Understood.

3688
01:56:27,551 --> 01:56:28,252
One of the things that I was

3689
01:56:28,252 --> 01:56:31,821
seeing is that there might be

3690
01:56:31,821 --> 01:56:32,489
spots on the map that would be

3691
01:56:32,489 --> 01:56:33,123
essentially included in our

3692
01:56:33,123 --> 01:56:35,523
implementation And then if

3693
01:56:36,626 --> 01:56:37,328
the sandag map changes and it

3694
01:56:37,328 --> 01:56:38,610
doesn't doesn't like map shows

3695
01:56:38,610 --> 01:56:41,398
areas that are not included, we

3696
01:56:41,398 --> 01:56:41,932
might be in a process where we

3697
01:56:41,932 --> 01:56:42,633
see applications for

3698
01:56:42,633 --> 01:56:45,633
development that we would then

3699
01:56:46,303 --> 01:56:47,400
have to pull the permit back or

3700
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:47,471
we wouldn't be able to pull

3701
01:56:47,471 --> 01:56:48,205
the permit back.

3702
01:56:48,205 --> 01:56:51,205
Given what sandag does correct,

3703
01:56:51,375 --> 01:56:51,909
we anticipate having this

3704
01:56:51,909 --> 01:56:52,443
ending map prior to

3705
01:56:52,443 --> 01:56:52,742
the implementation.

3706
01:56:52,742 --> 01:56:54,742
Okay.

3707
01:56:56,647 --> 01:56:57,451
And so that's and should not

3708
01:56:57,451 --> 01:56:57,648
occur.

3709
01:56:57,648 --> 01:56:58,315
You're not going to speculate

3710
01:56:58,315 --> 01:56:58,982
on whether that might happen

3711
01:56:58,982 --> 01:57:00,718
but I could foresee that it

3712
01:57:00,718 --> 01:57:04,318
might happen And then we'd be

3713
01:57:05,622 --> 01:57:06,356
in a pickle significantly.

3714
01:57:06,356 --> 01:57:07,240
I appreciate that The Planning

3715
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:07,658
Department has committed to

3716
01:57:07,658 --> 01:57:10,580
including cpc and planning

3717
01:57:10,260 --> 01:57:10,761
groups in the process and has

3718
01:57:10,761 --> 01:57:11,461
worked with them.

3719
01:57:11,461 --> 01:57:12,162
We heard many of them speaking

3720
01:57:12,162 --> 01:57:14,532
today virtually and in person

3721
01:57:14,532 --> 01:57:14,865
and that really matters to me

3722
01:57:14,865 --> 01:57:15,632
as well.

3723
01:57:15,632 --> 01:57:16,650
So thank you very much for that

3724
01:57:16,650 --> 01:57:18,650
and thank you.

3725
01:57:19,870 --> 01:57:20,271
I will support the motion.

3726
01:57:20,271 --> 01:57:21,400
All right.

3727
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:21,704
Thank you, Councilmember Campo.

3728
01:57:21,704 --> 01:57:22,390
We'll go next to Councilmember

3729
01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:24,390
Moreno.

3730
01:57:24,241 --> 01:57:24,942
Thank you And thank you for

3731
01:57:24,942 --> 01:57:25,542
the presentation and thank you

3732
01:57:25,542 --> 01:57:28,542
to all the members of

3733
01:57:28,579 --> 01:57:29,180
the public who came today to

3734
01:57:29,180 --> 01:57:31,580
speak before this body.

3735
01:57:33,684 --> 01:57:34,418
It's been stated already but I

3736
01:57:34,418 --> 01:57:38,180
would like to reiterate I think

3737
01:57:38,789 --> 01:57:39,389
the city of San Diego has been

3738
01:57:39,389 --> 01:57:41,789
pro housing pro density.

3739
01:57:43,427 --> 01:57:44,227
We've been updating all of our

3740
01:57:44,227 --> 01:57:47,731
plan updates as quickly as we

3741
01:57:47,731 --> 01:57:48,466
possibly can.

3742
01:57:48,466 --> 01:57:51,466
In essence changing the zones

3743
01:57:53,404 --> 01:57:54,710
policy, it's clear to me that

3744
01:57:54,710 --> 01:57:57,710
sb 79 was created for cities

3745
01:57:57,941 --> 01:57:58,542
that are anti-growth growth

3746
01:57:58,542 --> 01:58:00,942
which obviously does not

3747
01:58:02,313 --> 01:58:03,130
represent the city of San Diego

3748
01:58:03,130 --> 01:58:03,714
And I've seen it firsthand

3749
01:58:03,714 --> 01:58:06,114
during the Coastal Commission

3750
01:58:07,118 --> 01:58:07,952
just hearing folks talk.

3751
01:58:07,952 --> 01:58:11,552
It's been pretty shocking to be

3752
01:58:12,490 --> 01:58:12,857
honest how just pro housing

3753
01:58:12,857 --> 01:58:14,857
the city.

3754
01:58:18,917 --> 01:58:19,830
It's not shocking but it's a

3755
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:20,932
delight to make sure that that

3756
01:58:20,932 --> 01:58:21,732
it goes unnoticed, that

3757
01:58:21,732 --> 01:58:22,660
the city of San Diego is pro

3758
01:58:22,660 --> 01:58:24,660
housing.

3759
01:58:26,170 --> 01:58:26,737
And I say that because it is

3760
01:58:26,737 --> 01:58:27,338
the number one issue.

3761
01:58:27,338 --> 01:58:28,720
When you go out into

3762
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:30,608
the community and you have town

3763
01:58:30,608 --> 01:58:31,308
halls and you go and you knock

3764
01:58:31,308 --> 01:58:31,942
on doors or even when we're

3765
01:58:31,942 --> 01:58:33,942
having community cleanups

3766
01:58:35,780 --> 01:58:36,314
the number one issue is my rent

3767
01:58:36,314 --> 01:58:38,314
is too high.

3768
01:58:40,170 --> 01:58:40,685
So although I do recognize that

3769
01:58:40,685 --> 01:58:43,685
action is needed today, what

3770
01:58:45,156 --> 01:58:49,356
action we take is what I want

3771
01:58:49,393 --> 01:58:50,194
to really hone in on.

3772
01:58:50,194 --> 01:58:52,594
>> I thought that Councilmember

3773
01:58:54,399 --> 01:58:54,966
weapons request for

3774
01:58:54,966 --> 01:58:57,366
the amendment was very

3775
01:58:58,870 --> 01:59:02,470
reasonable and it's one that I

3776
01:59:03,241 --> 01:59:03,907
am fully in support of And how

3777
01:59:03,907 --> 01:59:06,907
it was mentioned If sandag

3778
01:59:08,646 --> 01:59:09,113
decides to include those three

3779
01:59:09,113 --> 01:59:09,981
corridors good.

3780
01:59:09,981 --> 01:59:13,951
And if they don't will the city

3781
01:59:13,951 --> 01:59:14,285
of San Diego would have done it

3782
01:59:14,285 --> 01:59:16,285
already.

3783
01:59:18,422 --> 01:59:18,723
So that's where I stand on

3784
01:59:18,723 --> 01:59:20,723
that.

3785
01:59:23,161 --> 01:59:23,861
I understand a little bit more

3786
01:59:23,861 --> 01:59:26,861
the reasoning behind and I'm

3787
01:59:28,990 --> 01:59:28,533
just if you could walk me

3788
01:59:28,533 --> 01:59:30,533
through this.

3789
01:59:32,370 --> 01:59:33,370
In regards to low resources or

3790
01:59:33,370 --> 01:59:35,437
low resourced areas you

3791
01:59:35,973 --> 01:59:39,573
mentioned let me just get to

3792
01:59:40,411 --> 01:59:43,411
this You mentioned low resource

3793
01:59:45,917 --> 01:59:46,517
areas The department

3794
01:59:46,517 --> 01:59:47,218
anticipates implementing

3795
01:59:47,218 --> 01:59:49,618
through ongoing community plan

3796
01:59:50,721 --> 01:59:51,289
updates including Mid-City

3797
01:59:51,289 --> 01:59:51,923
Canyon, Otay Mesa with

3798
01:59:51,923 --> 01:59:53,923
additional future planning

3799
01:59:56,226 --> 01:59:56,861
process sources in

3800
01:59:56,861 --> 01:59:59,261
the remaining low resource

3801
02:00:00,331 --> 02:00:01,320
areas Prior to the state law

3802
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:01,366
requirements going into effect

3803
02:00:01,366 --> 02:00:03,366
in 2030.

3804
02:00:04,802 --> 02:00:05,503
So in essence what you are

3805
02:00:05,503 --> 02:00:08,503
saying is that these low

3806
02:00:10,408 --> 02:00:14,800
resource areas will not have a

3807
02:00:15,213 --> 02:00:17,613
ministerial like process until

3808
02:00:19,918 --> 02:00:20,651
2032 unless we get to the Otay

3809
02:00:20,651 --> 02:00:23,651
Mesa in mid-city ahead of 2032.

3810
02:00:24,856 --> 02:00:25,623
Or if the council takes an

3811
02:00:25,623 --> 02:00:29,794
action with a two year deal to

3812
02:00:29,794 --> 02:00:30,561
kind of plan prior to that time

3813
02:00:30,561 --> 02:00:34,161
which is 2032 is is the last

3814
02:00:34,432 --> 02:00:35,200
date possible?

3815
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:35,767
But it could happen sooner but

3816
02:00:35,767 --> 02:00:36,100
it could happen soon.

3817
02:00:36,100 --> 02:00:36,401
Correct?

3818
02:00:36,401 --> 02:00:38,401
Okay.

3819
02:00:39,671 --> 02:00:43,271
And how Because the Otay Mesa

3820
02:00:44,408 --> 02:00:45,443
Nester Community plan update if

3821
02:00:45,443 --> 02:00:49,147
I do you know a quick map in my

3822
02:00:49,147 --> 02:00:49,814
brain that's the last planned

3823
02:00:49,814 --> 02:00:50,448
update for District eight We

3824
02:00:50,448 --> 02:00:53,448
pretty much we've done San

3825
02:00:54,319 --> 02:00:54,986
Isidro Otay Mesa, Southeastern

3826
02:00:54,986 --> 02:00:57,986
Barrio Logan and Otay Mesa

3827
02:00:59,570 --> 02:00:59,591
Nestor's the only 1 A.M. I

3828
02:00:59,591 --> 02:01:00,425
missing another one?

3829
02:01:00,425 --> 02:01:03,895
>> It is the last one for a

3830
02:01:03,895 --> 02:01:04,763
comprehensive plan update.

3831
02:01:04,763 --> 02:01:08,363
There's a variety of ways that

3832
02:01:08,533 --> 02:01:09,234
we can address sb 79 in low

3833
02:01:09,234 --> 02:01:11,234
resource communities including

3834
02:01:12,270 --> 02:01:12,938
specifically any federal and

3835
02:01:12,938 --> 02:01:13,572
Barrio Logan that have more

3836
02:01:13,572 --> 02:01:15,572
recently adopted community

3837
02:01:17,142 --> 02:01:19,542
plans that will require

3838
02:01:20,912 --> 02:01:21,613
additional actions to meet

3839
02:01:21,613 --> 02:01:22,480
the requirements of sb 79.

3840
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:25,684
I, I don't want to commit to

3841
02:01:25,684 --> 02:01:26,383
what that planning process will

3842
02:01:26,383 --> 02:01:27,252
look like that because that is

3843
02:01:27,252 --> 02:01:30,956
it is quite a few years out

3844
02:01:30,956 --> 02:01:31,656
from now but that could look

3845
02:01:31,656 --> 02:01:35,256
like a specific plan update or

3846
02:01:35,693 --> 02:01:36,528
focus plan amendment.

3847
02:01:36,528 --> 02:01:37,228
Just because we have updated a

3848
02:01:37,228 --> 02:01:40,165
community plan doesn't mean we

3849
02:01:40,165 --> 02:01:40,832
can't go back and revisit it As

3850
02:01:40,832 --> 02:01:41,533
we saw with Uptown Community

3851
02:01:41,533 --> 02:01:44,533
Plan that was adopted in

3852
02:01:45,971 --> 02:01:46,605
the semi recent past and then a

3853
02:01:46,605 --> 02:01:47,272
focused plan amendment was

3854
02:01:47,272 --> 02:01:49,672
brought back that increased

3855
02:01:50,800 --> 02:01:50,509
density significantly in that

3856
02:01:50,509 --> 02:01:51,343
area as well.

3857
02:01:51,343 --> 02:01:52,440
So in my district your you just

3858
02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:54,880
stated that Barrio Logan and

3859
02:01:54,880 --> 02:01:55,480
San Ysidro can potentially see

3860
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,480
higher density through

3861
02:01:58,517 --> 02:02:00,917
ministerial process of sb 79

3862
02:02:03,221 --> 02:02:03,922
but they they would not be able

3863
02:02:03,922 --> 02:02:06,322
to utilize the ministerial

3864
02:02:07,993 --> 02:02:08,960
process unless they come

3865
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:13,310
forward and do a zone change in

3866
02:02:13,310 --> 02:02:13,765
less in less.

3867
02:02:13,765 --> 02:02:14,199
This Council takes action prior

3868
02:02:14,199 --> 02:02:16,199
to that time.

3869
02:02:18,503 --> 02:02:19,171
So prior to that time the city

3870
02:02:19,171 --> 02:02:22,171
planning to partment will be

3871
02:02:22,708 --> 02:02:23,442
working on what you said.

3872
02:02:23,442 --> 02:02:24,176
>> Sorry to interrupt you but

3873
02:02:24,176 --> 02:02:27,776
you just said you can't promise

3874
02:02:27,813 --> 02:02:28,346
You can't promise how quick you

3875
02:02:28,346 --> 02:02:28,680
will update correct?

3876
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:29,140
Correct.

3877
02:02:29,140 --> 02:02:29,314
Correct.

3878
02:02:29,314 --> 02:02:31,314
Okay.

3879
02:02:32,751 --> 02:02:33,451
2032 is the latest date before

3880
02:02:33,451 --> 02:02:36,451
sb 79 requires that all areas

3881
02:02:36,755 --> 02:02:38,755
be phased in.

3882
02:02:40,225 --> 02:02:40,692
>> Okay that's 20 32 is six

3883
02:02:40,692 --> 02:02:42,692
years from now.

3884
02:02:45,263 --> 02:02:46,131
>> Yes.

3885
02:02:46,131 --> 02:02:48,531
>> 20, 32 and six years from

3886
02:02:53,539 --> 02:02:54,239
now which in our world seems

3887
02:02:54,239 --> 02:02:54,940
like two weeks but in

3888
02:02:54,940 --> 02:02:57,340
the development world seems

3889
02:02:58,443 --> 02:02:59,311
like 200 years.

3890
02:02:59,311 --> 02:03:04,111
So and I am of the belief that

3891
02:03:04,183 --> 02:03:04,883
time kills all project x I am a

3892
02:03:04,883 --> 02:03:07,883
little bit more comfortable I

3893
02:03:08,754 --> 02:03:09,421
am because we've had so many

3894
02:03:09,421 --> 02:03:10,155
plan updates and because of

3895
02:03:10,155 --> 02:03:10,388
the commitment not only of this

3896
02:03:10,388 --> 02:03:12,388
I.

3897
02:03:13,325 --> 02:03:14,159
>> I always say this the mayor

3898
02:03:14,159 --> 02:03:16,996
and I do not get along and we

3899
02:03:16,996 --> 02:03:20,899
don't see eye to eye on 99% of

3900
02:03:20,899 --> 02:03:21,266
the things housing we are 100%

3901
02:03:21,266 --> 02:03:21,967
lockstep.

3902
02:03:21,967 --> 02:03:26,167
So I do trust and obviously I

3903
02:03:26,205 --> 02:03:27,105
trust you Heidi I do trust that

3904
02:03:27,105 --> 02:03:31,430
we would get out of the way if

3905
02:03:31,430 --> 02:03:31,377
you will, in when it comes to

3906
02:03:31,377 --> 02:03:32,100
housing.

3907
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:34,914
I don't know what the next

3908
02:03:34,914 --> 02:03:35,681
administration is going to look

3909
02:03:35,681 --> 02:03:36,148
like and that's what I'm always

3910
02:03:36,148 --> 02:03:38,148
looking towards.

3911
02:03:40,419 --> 02:03:44,390
And so because I am very much

3912
02:03:44,390 --> 02:03:45,157
pro housing and I do want

3913
02:03:45,157 --> 02:03:45,958
the city to get out of the way,

3914
02:03:45,958 --> 02:03:49,610
I do want my daughter to be

3915
02:03:49,610 --> 02:03:49,862
able to live in the city of San

3916
02:03:49,862 --> 02:03:50,829
Diego when she is ready to

3917
02:03:50,829 --> 02:03:54,400
purchase a home if that is what

3918
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:58,000
she wants And just given what

3919
02:03:58,838 --> 02:04:02,741
we have before us, I'm going to

3920
02:04:02,741 --> 02:04:03,609
be a no vote on this particular

3921
02:04:03,609 --> 02:04:07,120
item and I'm going to hope and

3922
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:07,680
pray that that tag adds

3923
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:08,414
the four corridors and that

3924
02:04:08,414 --> 02:04:10,814
that administration updates our

3925
02:04:12,151 --> 02:04:12,852
tod policies.

3926
02:04:12,852 --> 02:04:15,852
So just standing on principle

3927
02:04:16,822 --> 02:04:17,589
with this and knowing that my

3928
02:04:17,589 --> 02:04:20,425
my vote means something, I'm

3929
02:04:20,425 --> 02:04:20,926
going to be respectfully voting

3930
02:04:20,926 --> 02:04:22,926
no on this.

3931
02:04:25,732 --> 02:04:26,232
Thank you.

3932
02:04:26,232 --> 02:04:28,232
Thank you.

3933
02:04:30,369 --> 02:04:31,370
Councilmember Moreno I'm going

3934
02:04:31,370 --> 02:04:34,637
to try something that is a

3935
02:04:35,674 --> 02:04:36,750
little bit unorthodox because

3936
02:04:36,750 --> 02:04:38,750
it's 815.

3937
02:04:40,413 --> 02:04:40,713
Are you a no vote?

3938
02:04:40,713 --> 02:04:41,647
Okay.

3939
02:04:41,647 --> 02:04:45,418
So we don't have the votes to

3940
02:04:45,418 --> 02:04:48,921
pass the motion so I'm not

3941
02:04:48,921 --> 02:04:52,521
going to call for the vote.

3942
02:04:54,193 --> 02:04:54,927
It takes five right, even

3943
02:04:54,927 --> 02:04:55,228
though it's a majority of who's

3944
02:04:55,228 --> 02:04:57,228
here.

3945
02:04:58,964 --> 02:05:02,835
So I'm going to call for a 15

3946
02:05:02,835 --> 02:05:05,835
minute recess to figure out

3947
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:11,440
whether there is a path forward

3948
02:06:51,863 --> 02:06:53,863
so

3949
02:06:58,836 --> 02:06:59,604
so city attorney the kind of

3950
02:06:59,604 --> 02:07:02,640
talking it out So I'm not going

3951
02:07:02,640 --> 02:07:03,508
to get a final bit I know we're

3952
02:07:03,508 --> 02:07:07,708
all motivated to see if we can

3953
02:07:09,347 --> 02:07:10,480
get someplace but I will be

3954
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:13,648
asking you I need to explain

3955
02:07:15,220 --> 02:07:18,220
whatever the new approaches and

3956
02:07:53,325 --> 02:07:55,725
then if I agree

3957
02:09:03,562 --> 02:09:05,562
with

3958
02:11:15,328 --> 02:11:17,328
that I

3959
02:24:22,850 --> 02:24:24,850
know it's

3960
02:26:22,406 --> 02:26:24,406
not

3961
02:32:19,397 --> 02:32:21,397
I

3962
02:42:08,356 --> 02:42:10,356
know going

3963
02:44:09,444 --> 02:44:11,444
back

3964
02:47:37,186 --> 02:47:39,186
to

3965
02:49:00,937 --> 02:49:02,937
and and

3966
02:51:01,458 --> 02:51:03,458
you

3967
02:52:35,786 --> 02:52:37,786
and

3968
02:53:18,262 --> 02:53:20,262
me

3969
02:54:22,326 --> 02:54:25,326
and them and you know

3970
02:54:41,346 --> 02:54:44,346
I've never I've I've never.

3971
02:54:45,783 --> 02:54:49,383
All right folks And one hour

3972
02:54:49,554 --> 02:54:50,221
and 1528 25 minute.

3973
02:54:50,221 --> 02:54:53,221
Longest recess of my council

3974
02:54:53,825 --> 02:54:54,192
presidency and we're ready to

3975
02:54:54,192 --> 02:54:54,826
come back.

3976
02:54:54,826 --> 02:54:57,226
This is important stuff.

3977
02:54:57,629 --> 02:54:58,363
So first.

3978
02:54:58,363 --> 02:54:58,729
>> Clerk please call the roll.

3979
02:54:58,729 --> 02:55:00,729
Thank you.

3980
02:55:01,633 --> 02:55:02,300
Council PRESIDENT Council

3981
02:55:02,300 --> 02:55:02,867
member Campbell here Council

3982
02:55:02,867 --> 02:55:04,867
Member Whitburn here.

3983
02:55:06,671 --> 02:55:07,371
Council member Foster Council

3984
02:55:07,371 --> 02:55:09,771
Member Yvonne Wolpert Council

3985
02:55:11,809 --> 02:55:12,510
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Council

3986
02:55:12,510 --> 02:55:15,510
Member You hear Council Member

3987
02:55:16,247 --> 02:55:16,915
Moreno Resident Council member

3988
02:55:16,915 --> 02:55:19,315
Rivera and Council PRESIDENT

3989
02:55:21,119 --> 02:55:21,953
LaCava present.

3990
02:55:21,953 --> 02:55:25,924
All right so we have a quorum

3991
02:55:25,924 --> 02:55:26,524
and everybody is sitting there

3992
02:55:26,524 --> 02:55:27,291
chairs So having made

3993
02:55:27,291 --> 02:55:30,795
the motion that did not seem to

3994
02:55:30,795 --> 02:55:32,795
have the votes.

3995
02:55:35,600 --> 02:55:36,234
Staff and attorneys you heard

3996
02:55:36,234 --> 02:55:36,634
the comments comments from

3997
02:55:36,634 --> 02:55:38,634
the public.

3998
02:55:39,905 --> 02:55:40,438
You heard the comments from

3999
02:55:40,438 --> 02:55:41,172
the council members.

4000
02:55:41,172 --> 02:55:44,772
I have deferred to you in

4001
02:55:45,710 --> 02:55:46,478
the original motion and so I

4002
02:55:46,478 --> 02:55:49,247
will once again to defer to you

4003
02:55:49,247 --> 02:55:49,915
to come up with and

4004
02:55:49,915 --> 02:55:50,582
alternatives that you think

4005
02:55:50,582 --> 02:55:53,582
might be more palatable from

4006
02:55:54,386 --> 02:55:54,885
the comments that you heard an

4007
02:55:54,885 --> 02:55:57,285
hour or two ago.

4008
02:55:59,958 --> 02:56:00,325
>> So Heidi, what what can you

4009
02:56:00,325 --> 02:56:00,659
offer us?

4010
02:56:00,659 --> 02:56:01,259
>> Okay.

4011
02:56:01,259 --> 02:56:01,626
Yes, Thank you, Council

4012
02:56:01,626 --> 02:56:03,626
PRESIDENT.

4013
02:56:04,763 --> 02:56:05,630
Thank you for the deference.

4014
02:56:05,630 --> 02:56:08,766
Very honored by that based off

4015
02:56:08,766 --> 02:56:09,401
of the comments that we've

4016
02:56:09,401 --> 02:56:10,680
heard from the council and

4017
02:56:10,680 --> 02:56:13,710
the members of the public, I

4018
02:56:13,710 --> 02:56:13,571
believe we have a solution.

4019
02:56:13,571 --> 02:56:14,306
>> Okay.

4020
02:56:14,306 --> 02:56:17,906
So that solution would be to

4021
02:56:18,209 --> 02:56:18,910
remove recital e which

4022
02:56:18,910 --> 02:56:21,310
references the specific toddy

4023
02:56:22,681 --> 02:56:23,447
qualifying transit stops and

4024
02:56:23,447 --> 02:56:26,447
then moves recital f into

4025
02:56:28,153 --> 02:56:28,787
the new recital e which just

4026
02:56:28,787 --> 02:56:29,521
says the two d qualifying

4027
02:56:29,521 --> 02:56:33,121
transit stops will be the stops

4028
02:56:33,425 --> 02:56:33,926
as identified by stand in by

4029
02:56:33,926 --> 02:56:36,326
sandag in the map.

4030
02:56:38,630 --> 02:56:38,697
Now in that action of

4031
02:56:38,697 --> 02:56:39,298
the ordinance we have also

4032
02:56:39,298 --> 02:56:41,298
proposed some additional

4033
02:56:42,000 --> 02:56:42,767
changes.

4034
02:56:42,767 --> 02:56:43,368
The original ordinance that was

4035
02:56:43,368 --> 02:56:45,768
before the Council made

4036
02:56:47,606 --> 02:56:50,606
reference to maps that included

4037
02:56:51,476 --> 02:56:51,877
stops that staff had

4038
02:56:51,877 --> 02:56:52,511
identified.

4039
02:56:52,511 --> 02:56:55,511
But given that sandag MAY

4040
02:56:57,282 --> 02:56:58,500
identify other stops, we have

4041
02:56:58,500 --> 02:57:01,500
removed reference to each of

4042
02:57:01,654 --> 02:57:02,387
the attachments and instead

4043
02:57:02,387 --> 02:57:05,387
referred to the definitions and

4044
02:57:07,920 --> 02:57:07,726
our department and after sandag

4045
02:57:07,726 --> 02:57:10,726
does release the map will

4046
02:57:11,463 --> 02:57:12,164
prepare the maps accordingly

4047
02:57:12,164 --> 02:57:12,531
based off of this Council's

4048
02:57:12,531 --> 02:57:14,531
direction.

4049
02:57:16,568 --> 02:57:16,869
>> Okay, I'm comfortable with

4050
02:57:16,869 --> 02:57:18,869
that.

4051
02:57:21,540 --> 02:57:22,241
That language is now up on

4052
02:57:22,241 --> 02:57:25,841
the screen and I believe hard

4053
02:57:26,278 --> 02:57:27,460
copies are being passed out So

4054
02:57:27,460 --> 02:57:30,648
people can look at the ads that

4055
02:57:30,648 --> 02:57:34,848
are being made So I will move

4056
02:57:36,550 --> 02:57:36,755
this recommendation as amended.

4057
02:57:36,755 --> 02:57:37,122
COUNCILMAN Campbell, can I get

4058
02:57:37,122 --> 02:57:39,122
a second?

4059
02:57:40,526 --> 02:57:40,993
I'll be happy to second that.

4060
02:57:40,993 --> 02:57:41,660
>> All right.

4061
02:57:41,660 --> 02:57:43,660
Any comments, Councilmember

4062
02:57:44,797 --> 02:57:45,730
Whitburn Thank you.

4063
02:57:45,730 --> 02:57:48,730
Council PRESIDENT Just so that

4064
02:57:50,168 --> 02:57:53,768
I cared for the record confirm

4065
02:57:54,340 --> 02:57:55,400
what this does We're going to

4066
02:57:55,400 --> 02:57:58,400
strike recital e all together.

4067
02:57:58,310 --> 02:57:59,100
Tonight's action will not

4068
02:57:59,100 --> 02:58:01,410
identify the transit oriented

4069
02:58:03,716 --> 02:58:04,149
development stops in the city

4070
02:58:04,149 --> 02:58:04,983
of San Diego.

4071
02:58:04,983 --> 02:58:07,953
We're going to leave that to

4072
02:58:07,953 --> 02:58:08,320
back that is essentially what

4073
02:58:08,320 --> 02:58:08,854
that says.

4074
02:58:08,854 --> 02:58:10,122
>> That is correct.

4075
02:58:10,122 --> 02:58:10,556
You are much more succinct than

4076
02:58:10,556 --> 02:58:12,556
I was.

4077
02:58:15,327 --> 02:58:15,727
Thank you.

4078
02:58:15,727 --> 02:58:17,727
Thank you.

4079
02:58:20,332 --> 02:58:24,532
I also want to say that along

4080
02:58:24,970 --> 02:58:25,671
with this change my office is

4081
02:58:25,671 --> 02:58:26,539
going to take the lead on

4082
02:58:26,539 --> 02:58:29,642
writing a letter to said Dag

4083
02:58:29,642 --> 02:58:30,276
requesting that the transit

4084
02:58:30,276 --> 02:58:32,276
oriented development stops

4085
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:35,381
include San Diego trolley stops

4086
02:58:35,381 --> 02:58:38,950
and all bus stops served by

4087
02:58:38,950 --> 02:58:39,518
full time dedicated bus slides

4088
02:58:39,518 --> 02:58:40,152
and alcohol Boulevard

4089
02:58:40,152 --> 02:58:42,552
University Avenue and Park

4090
02:58:43,823 --> 02:58:44,523
Boulevard with bus service

4091
02:58:44,523 --> 02:58:47,523
operating at a frequency of 15

4092
02:58:48,961 --> 02:58:49,661
minutes or less during weekday

4093
02:58:49,661 --> 02:58:50,362
peak commute hours by office

4094
02:58:50,362 --> 02:58:53,666
will take the lead on writing

4095
02:58:53,666 --> 02:58:54,500
that letter.

4096
02:58:54,500 --> 02:58:55,201
I anticipate that there will be

4097
02:58:55,201 --> 02:58:58,201
other council members who will

4098
02:58:58,237 --> 02:58:58,770
sign Add to that letter and I

4099
02:58:58,770 --> 02:59:01,170
really want to thank

4100
02:59:03,750 --> 02:59:03,776
the Council PRESIDENT And my

4101
02:59:03,776 --> 02:59:04,510
colleagues for their patience

4102
02:59:04,510 --> 02:59:04,844
as we worked out a path forward

4103
02:59:04,844 --> 02:59:06,844
on this.

4104
02:59:08,246 --> 02:59:08,981
I want to take the Be Democrats

4105
02:59:08,981 --> 02:59:11,981
and other pro housing advocates

4106
02:59:12,418 --> 02:59:13,152
for their input on this.

4107
02:59:13,152 --> 02:59:16,752
I want to thank the mayor's

4108
02:59:17,890 --> 02:59:17,689
office, our housing planning

4109
02:59:17,689 --> 02:59:20,890
department and our city

4110
02:59:21,627 --> 02:59:22,261
attorney's office for walking

4111
02:59:22,261 --> 02:59:24,661
us through this approach.

4112
02:59:26,980 --> 02:59:26,866
I think this is a path forward

4113
02:59:26,866 --> 02:59:27,400
that makes sense that we can

4114
02:59:27,400 --> 02:59:27,834
get behind tonight.

4115
02:59:27,834 --> 02:59:29,834
So thank you.

4116
02:59:31,203 --> 02:59:31,604
Council PRESIDENT All right.

4117
02:59:31,604 --> 02:59:32,337
Thank you.

4118
02:59:32,337 --> 02:59:32,938
Council Member Whitburn Council

4119
02:59:32,938 --> 02:59:35,338
Member Campo Thank you.

4120
02:59:38,311 --> 02:59:40,212
Council PRESIDENT Staff Well

4121
02:59:40,212 --> 02:59:40,880
I'd say use as many words but

4122
02:59:40,880 --> 02:59:41,614
it's functionally different

4123
02:59:41,614 --> 02:59:42,348
than the staff's recommendation

4124
02:59:42,348 --> 02:59:44,951
And what we have in front of us

4125
02:59:44,951 --> 02:59:45,785
right now what is functionally

4126
02:59:45,785 --> 02:59:49,385
different is that there is no

4127
02:59:49,555 --> 02:59:50,256
reference to specific stops and

4128
02:59:50,256 --> 02:59:53,256
there is full deference to

4129
02:59:54,493 --> 02:59:55,194
the sandag maps program So

4130
02:59:55,194 --> 02:59:58,794
there is no reference in this

4131
02:59:59,640 --> 02:59:59,632
Council adopted action to

4132
02:59:59,632 --> 03:00:00,233
the qualifying stops.

4133
03:00:00,233 --> 03:00:03,233
The reason why staff had

4134
03:00:04,504 --> 03:00:05,204
prepared the maps is because it

4135
03:00:05,204 --> 03:00:05,705
is informative for the council

4136
03:00:05,705 --> 03:00:08,541
to be able to see

4137
03:00:08,541 --> 03:00:11,541
the applicability of the areas

4138
03:00:13,479 --> 03:00:14,280
But given the challenging

4139
03:00:14,280 --> 03:00:15,130
situation of the timing of

4140
03:00:15,130 --> 03:00:18,183
the release of the maps we were

4141
03:00:18,183 --> 03:00:18,818
not in a position to be able to

4142
03:00:18,818 --> 03:00:19,519
wait until the release of

4143
03:00:19,519 --> 03:00:20,186
the sandag maps to bring this

4144
03:00:20,186 --> 03:00:23,186
item forward to the Council.

4145
03:00:27,930 --> 03:00:27,893
Certainly So for people who are

4146
03:00:27,893 --> 03:00:30,893
online at 820 and now are

4147
03:00:31,664 --> 03:00:32,398
looking at 940 there I think

4148
03:00:32,398 --> 03:00:34,398
functionally functionally would

4149
03:00:36,502 --> 03:00:37,169
you say that or staff's

4150
03:00:37,169 --> 03:00:37,837
recommendation is here other

4151
03:00:37,837 --> 03:00:40,837
than the informative ness of

4152
03:00:41,875 --> 03:00:42,207
what some of the recitals said

4153
03:00:42,207 --> 03:00:42,909
?

4154
03:00:42,909 --> 03:00:43,209
But functionally it's the same

4155
03:00:43,209 --> 03:00:43,810
thing.

4156
03:00:43,810 --> 03:00:44,310
I would agree with that

4157
03:00:44,310 --> 03:00:44,611
characterization.

4158
03:00:44,611 --> 03:00:44,977
Okay.

4159
03:00:44,977 --> 03:00:46,679
Thank you.

4160
03:00:46,679 --> 03:00:47,380
Happy to be in support Figure

4161
03:00:47,380 --> 03:00:50,380
Councilmember Campo I rush to

4162
03:00:51,450 --> 03:00:52,185
make the motion I did want to

4163
03:00:52,185 --> 03:00:52,786
check with the city attorney to

4164
03:00:52,786 --> 03:00:55,786
make sure that you have

4165
03:00:56,122 --> 03:00:56,756
carefully thought this through

4166
03:00:56,756 --> 03:00:57,590
from a legal perspective.

4167
03:00:57,590 --> 03:01:01,190
Yes, Our office has no legal

4168
03:01:01,294 --> 03:01:01,661
concerns.

4169
03:01:01,661 --> 03:01:01,962
Thank you.

4170
03:01:01,962 --> 03:01:02,629
Okay.

4171
03:01:02,629 --> 03:01:03,496
My apologies for not asking

4172
03:01:03,496 --> 03:01:06,800
that question before I made my

4173
03:01:06,800 --> 03:01:07,500
motion.

4174
03:01:07,500 --> 03:01:08,100
Councilmember Whitman, you're

4175
03:01:08,100 --> 03:01:08,368
back on the line.

4176
03:01:08,368 --> 03:01:09,690
Thank you.

4177
03:01:09,690 --> 03:01:10,537
Council PRESIDENT To elaborate

4178
03:01:10,537 --> 03:01:14,137
a little bit the question that

4179
03:01:14,908 --> 03:01:15,675
Councilmember Campo brought up

4180
03:01:15,675 --> 03:01:18,675
just to highlight what we've

4181
03:01:19,946 --> 03:01:21,946
done here.

4182
03:01:25,118 --> 03:01:25,852
Recital e originally said that

4183
03:01:25,852 --> 03:01:26,686
the only toad stops at the city

4184
03:01:26,686 --> 03:01:30,286
of San Diego are San Diego

4185
03:01:30,624 --> 03:01:31,258
Trolley stops at four bus stops

4186
03:01:31,258 --> 03:01:31,625
located at a few different

4187
03:01:31,625 --> 03:01:33,625
locations.

4188
03:01:34,828 --> 03:01:37,828
It was restrictive at limiting

4189
03:01:40,233 --> 03:01:40,801
And what this does is remove

4190
03:01:40,801 --> 03:01:42,801
that limiting nature.

4191
03:01:44,570 --> 03:01:45,238
It defers to say a dig at

4192
03:01:45,238 --> 03:01:46,390
the with the letter that my

4193
03:01:46,390 --> 03:01:49,642
office will take the lead on we

4194
03:01:49,642 --> 03:01:50,409
will indicate what certainly my

4195
03:01:50,409 --> 03:01:54,900
preference would be to see at

4196
03:01:54,781 --> 03:01:55,549
it at any other council members

4197
03:01:55,549 --> 03:01:56,316
who wish to join it on that

4198
03:01:56,316 --> 03:01:58,785
Perfectly good just as a matter

4199
03:01:58,785 --> 03:01:59,452
of functional ity I think

4200
03:01:59,452 --> 03:02:00,870
that's right But I, I get

4201
03:02:00,870 --> 03:02:03,870
the purpose of wanting to

4202
03:02:03,390 --> 03:02:04,157
remove the specific enumeration

4203
03:02:04,157 --> 03:02:07,757
or listing of what you were

4204
03:02:07,827 --> 03:02:08,261
talking about Totally good and

4205
03:02:08,261 --> 03:02:08,829
thank you.

4206
03:02:08,829 --> 03:02:09,128
Happy to vote yes.

4207
03:02:09,128 --> 03:02:09,529
Okay.

4208
03:02:09,529 --> 03:02:11,529
All right.

4209
03:02:13,667 --> 03:02:16,969
So with that we do have

4210
03:02:16,969 --> 03:02:17,671
the motion that's actually two

4211
03:02:17,671 --> 03:02:17,971
pages I think that's the front

4212
03:02:17,971 --> 03:02:19,971
page.

4213
03:02:21,441 --> 03:02:22,175
There's hard copies and I think

4214
03:02:22,175 --> 03:02:22,776
there's hard copies in the back

4215
03:02:22,776 --> 03:02:23,760
or something like that.

4216
03:02:23,760 --> 03:02:25,760
Yeah.

4217
03:02:26,412 --> 03:02:28,412
So with that.

4218
03:02:31,218 --> 03:02:32,850
>> Clerk please call the roll.

4219
03:02:32,850 --> 03:02:32,585
I have sir I have started

4220
03:02:32,585 --> 03:02:34,585
the voting system.

4221
03:02:39,793 --> 03:02:42,193
Please cast your vote.

4222
03:02:52,673 --> 03:02:56,273
Oh you okay And that passes

4223
03:02:57,478 --> 03:02:58,245
five, 5444 people absent but

4224
03:02:58,245 --> 03:03:01,845
that does not sound right Want

4225
03:03:02,416 --> 03:03:03,830
to do it again?

4226
03:03:03,830 --> 03:03:03,684
Yes We'll start The voting

4227
03:03:03,684 --> 03:03:04,451
system will start again.

4228
03:03:04,451 --> 03:03:07,451
I've started the voting system

4229
03:03:09,623 --> 03:03:11,623
once more.

4230
03:03:14,595 --> 03:03:15,262
Okay.

4231
03:03:15,262 --> 03:03:17,662
Can Council member Campbell

4232
03:03:18,198 --> 03:03:18,499
would you like to vote orally?

4233
03:03:18,499 --> 03:03:20,499
Okay.

4234
03:03:23,470 --> 03:03:24,710
I vote yes.

4235
03:03:24,710 --> 03:03:24,371
Oh, there it is.

4236
03:03:24,371 --> 03:03:25,380
Okay.

4237
03:03:25,380 --> 03:03:27,380
Okay.

4238
03:03:30,377 --> 03:03:32,377
Okay.

4239
03:03:34,548 --> 03:03:35,248
And that passes 6360 with three

4240
03:03:35,248 --> 03:03:35,983
Council members absent Council

4241
03:03:35,983 --> 03:03:36,683
member Foster Council PRESIDENT

4242
03:03:36,683 --> 03:03:39,452
Pro Tem Lee and Council member

4243
03:03:39,452 --> 03:03:41,852
Yellow Rivera All right.

4244
03:03:42,823 --> 03:03:43,356
>> We have approval of

4245
03:03:43,356 --> 03:03:43,991
the first reading of

4246
03:03:43,991 --> 03:03:46,991
the ordinance So thank you

4247
03:03:47,928 --> 03:03:48,662
everybody that stuck around.

4248
03:03:48,662 --> 03:03:48,962
Thank you for your initial

4249
03:03:48,962 --> 03:03:50,962
input.

4250
03:03:52,366 --> 03:03:53,330
Thank you to staff navigating

4251
03:03:53,330 --> 03:03:55,433
this little thorny question

4252
03:03:56,937 --> 03:03:57,638
because sandag had not yet done

4253
03:03:57,638 --> 03:03:58,605
its work which would have made

4254
03:03:58,605 --> 03:04:01,642
it a little bit easier and more

4255
03:04:01,642 --> 03:04:02,510
straightforward.

4256
03:04:02,510 --> 03:04:03,110
With that we will now adjourn

4257
03:04:03,110 --> 03:04:05,510
Council to the regularly

4258
03:04:06,680 --> 03:04:09,800
scheduled council meeting on

4259
03:04:09,617 --> 03:04:12,170
Monday MAY 11th, 2026 at 10