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I will now call the city

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council meeting Monday, MAY

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18th, 2026 to order Deputy

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Clerk Please call the roll

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Council member Campbell Council

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Member Whitburn Council Member

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Foster Council Member Von

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Wilbur Council PRESIDENT Pro

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Council Member Moreno Council

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Member Eli Rivera and Council

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PRESIDENT LaCava present also

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attending the meeting are

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Senior Deputy City Attorney

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David Carlin, Independent

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budget analyst Charles Mollica,

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Council Affairs Advisor in

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the Mayor's office, Code

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advisor and myself your City

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A quorum is now present.

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We will begin this morning with

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of Allegiance led by Council

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member Kemp.

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the city the spirit of wisdom,

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charity and justice that

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steadfast purpose they MAY

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the well-being of all people.

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that the culmination are

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the original inhabitants of

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the Unceded land now known as

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Despite entering the horrors of

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genocide and colonization,

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the community spirit remains

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their ancestors who fought to

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protect their culture and land.

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forward ensuring that their

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traditions continue to thrive

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in gratitude and strength.

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connected to our past and

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committed to a thriving future.

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>> Deputy Clerk Please go over

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how the public can offer their

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If you are in person please

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complete a speaker slip located

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very all read versus City of

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San Diego csx Arthur Scott

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versus City of San Diego and

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We do have two speakers.

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Tim Douglass, please come

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Council Douglas PRESIDENT

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Basketball 127 I want to remind

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this Council that the workers

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we represent are the employees

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who keep the city running every

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facilities, public services

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that San Diego depend on.

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We show up early, stay late and

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continue serving this community

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through every challenge because

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we care deeply about this city.

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pretty simple idea.

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We're not asking for anything

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being treated like the other

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employees of the city.

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Our members deserve fairness,

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dignity and the same

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consideration that others

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receive when workers decide

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that their lives to the public

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service they should not have to

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fight just to be recognized or

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equality Number one we request

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reopen language to ensure our

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members receive their

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recommended equity adjustments

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to receive much earned special

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assignments and voluntary

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certification pays in the later

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years of this multi-year mou

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contract Number two however, we

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do not agree to reopening

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language continuing upon

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the attempt to repeal

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the refuge collection fees.

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just about contracts it's about

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valuing the people behind

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the strong city depends on

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stability, respect workforce

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that can afford to stay here,

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raise families here and

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continue to serve the community

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with pride.

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stand with your workers,

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support fairness, ensure that

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this Council values employees

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who make their city function

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Hi, this is Katherine Rhodes.

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What I wanted to say is you

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know, I don't think you can

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afford to give people raises

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right now if this is what

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should do for the unions So

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it's your meeting with them.

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It's ask them if they want to

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get rid of all that those 300

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nonunion middle managers and

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get them back into the union

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fold by firing all of them

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created all these middle

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managers that you did on

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consent throughout these 13

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years, you started doing this

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people raises when you have and

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the 2013, when you have

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freeze that was going to end

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pension debt And so I don't

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think it's fair to the union

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members that people get paid

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more than they do for doing

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the same exact job and they

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should just all be hired and

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fired back by the union hired

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Our next speaker Speaker is

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Please proceed and state which

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concession item or items you

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It's interesting with this

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first one that you guys are

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engaging in litigation against

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Donald Trump, you know, because

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of funding that has been cut or

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blocked due to you guys being

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like a sanctuary city.

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I mean the choices that you

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made along the years to aid and

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abet illegal aliens and give

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money that you shouldn't be to

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these people you're reaping

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what you have sown.

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other people are reaping what

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you have sown and so it just

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shows that you're negligent in

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the way that you're doing stuff

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and now you're trying to make

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him a scapegoat of the reasons

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why the city isn't getting

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not, you know, condoning

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everything that that man is

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doing but you guys have led to

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this type of things happening

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there and you know, continuing

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business when you don't have a

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quorum right Blatantly like in

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your face type of stuff And

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then later you kind of course

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correct because I don't know

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maybe it was on the news and

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like you guys don't like that

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kind of you know, attention

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because you always like it to

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be spun in your way But you

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know, you guys just can't be

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trusted to be making decisions

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when you do things that

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literally impede people's

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ability to thrive And you're

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we're constantly in litigation

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for sidewalks that you know,

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cause people to trip and fall

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And it's like, you know and

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the sidewalks continue to look

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like.

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So it's like I mean at what

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point are you going to

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actually, you know, try and

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make those better so that we

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don't have to continue to be in

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litigation like this.

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But you know, it's all a racket

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anyway with the labor

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negotiations.

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It's interesting because you

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know, people used to you know,

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get a raise off of the merit

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like off of their work and how

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they did it as an individual

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And now it's like you guys want

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to like group everything

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together all the time and act

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like you know, you can just do

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it in a lump sum type of a

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thing.

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But I mean you know that in

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itself is negligent because it

328
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should be based off of how

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the person is performing

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individually not as a group

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because even as a group it's

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like the city of San Diego

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looks like.

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So I mean you could spend you

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know, you might as well just

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throw the million dollars in

337
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the streets and let the people

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take it you know, spend more

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wisely than that.

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And then even just with

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the utilities and the charges

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and you guys violating

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Proposition 218, you continue

344
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to do that And it's just

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ridiculous that we have to even

346
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pay more money because you

347
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can't do your job right.

348
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If you guys did your job right,

349
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we wouldn't constantly be in

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litigation.

351
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But I mean how cool is it to

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like be protected like that to

353
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do really nefarious things and

354
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then just be like it's cool

355
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because we're just gonna use

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the people's money to cover our

357
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and like pay it off so we can

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just keep doing it over and

359
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over while they think we're

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bettering their lives.

361
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>> Thank you for your comments.

362
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That does conclude your time.

363
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Our next speaker is Hector.

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Please begin your comments and

365
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state which close session item

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items you wish to speak to.

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I'd like to speak to the Trump

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thing this Hector Trump thing

369
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and number four and the other

370
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one that oddly I was talking

371
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about anyway with the Trump

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with the Trump lawsuit,

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the Trump proclamation thanking

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him for deporting 17,000 people

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in 14 months when he took

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office in San Diego County that

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really got the crime rate going

378
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down and thank him again when

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he deports another 100,000

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illegal aliens in our county.

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And if you want to sue him,

382
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that's just going to he walks

383
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that man he's been sued by 100

384
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times That's is more you're

385
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going to call attention to him

386
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that he's going to come down

387
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and send the other guys in here

388
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to audit the NGOs that are

389
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ripping us off That wheels of

390
00:17:35,966 --> 00:17:36,733
change places 350 bucks a night

391
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for one homeless guy That's a

392
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total rip.

393
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But anyway, I give you guys a

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pay raise we got to lay off

395
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instead of 400 guys, we got to

396
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lay off 2000 guys.

397
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Times are tough, man.

398
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And they only lay off guys that

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make over 1000 100,000 a year

400
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and let the other guys But you

401
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can't give up pay raises I

402
00:18:04,395 --> 00:18:05,620
guess you're gonna But where's

403
00:18:05,620 --> 00:18:05,762
the money going to And then

404
00:18:05,762 --> 00:18:06,300
the pension system is killing

405
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us.

406
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It's not going to get any

407
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better in a year ten years.

408
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The pension system as it sits

409
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now is just an anchor on

410
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the whole city for decades and

411
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it's not going away.

412
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That's the main problem.

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Get rid of the drop program.

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Get rid of any kind of guys,

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Push down the retirement age to

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6065 only get retirement age

417
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early for firemen and the cops

418
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The rest the guys got to wait

419
00:18:40,798 --> 00:18:41,465
till the 65 man Otherwise we're

420
00:18:41,465 --> 00:18:44,465
already the money flying out

421
00:18:47,370 --> 00:18:47,671
the door about millions guys

422
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are getting million dollar

423
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paychecks when they retire.

424
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That's the drop program that

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does not help us the way

426
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the cities now look at

427
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the services now it's not

428
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helping Have all these

429
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employees they're not really

430
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:00,684
went up the whole city like

431
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it's role And with all these

432
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employees cut 2000 guys just

433
00:19:04,922 --> 00:19:07,922
start cutting them down and

434
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then give the money to the poor

435
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kids And south of Highway eight

436
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opened up all the libraries,

437
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all the rec centers that north

438
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of eight suffer for 3 or 4

439
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years.

440
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They can handle it and just get

441
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everything Those guys just

442
00:19:23,507 --> 00:19:27,107
shower and wash stuff and build

443
00:19:27,944 --> 00:19:28,613
a new sewer plant in Mexico.

444
00:19:28,613 --> 00:19:31,613
That's what we really need.

445
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Call it whatever it just all

446
00:19:34,784 --> 00:19:38,984
money to the new sewer plant in

447
00:19:39,557 --> 00:19:40,157
Tijuana and clean it all up

448
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once and for all.

449
00:19:40,457 --> 00:19:40,958
Okay.

450
00:19:40,958 --> 00:19:42,958
Thanks a lot.

451
00:19:45,563 --> 00:19:46,197
Thank you.

452
00:19:46,197 --> 00:19:46,931
Please note that the five

453
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minute timer has concluded with

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three speakers left in

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the queue.

456
00:19:52,336 --> 00:19:53,400
Caller With the last four

457
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digits 8700 please begin and

458
00:19:54,639 --> 00:19:57,639
state which close session item

459
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or items you wish to speak to.

460
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:07,851
Thank you Deputy City Clerk.

461
00:20:07,851 --> 00:20:11,451
I was speaking to one, two,

462
00:20:11,989 --> 00:20:12,657
three and four please.

463
00:20:12,657 --> 00:20:12,990
>> Please proceed You three

464
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minutes.

465
00:20:17,762 --> 00:20:18,796
Thank you, Joy.

466
00:20:18,796 --> 00:20:22,996
First of all, I want to thank

467
00:20:24,267 --> 00:20:24,869
the gentleman that spoke in

468
00:20:24,869 --> 00:20:25,203
the chambers first this

469
00:20:25,203 --> 00:20:26,370
morning.

470
00:20:26,370 --> 00:20:29,907
I want to tell him that I heard

471
00:20:29,907 --> 00:20:30,641
you and I respect you.

472
00:20:30,641 --> 00:20:33,641
And then also Katherine Rhodes.

473
00:20:35,113 --> 00:20:35,713
I want to thank you for her

474
00:20:35,713 --> 00:20:36,140
opinion very, very much.

475
00:20:36,140 --> 00:20:36,581
Okay.

476
00:20:36,581 --> 00:20:38,981
This is my opinion.

477
00:20:41,719 --> 00:20:42,320
So I'm for us won the challenge

478
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,320
challenging the orders,

479
00:20:47,725 --> 00:20:50,125
blocking grant funding which

480
00:20:53,631 --> 00:20:54,232
seems to be already getting

481
00:20:54,232 --> 00:20:54,599
teeth Which reversal is

482
00:20:54,599 --> 00:20:56,599
possible?

483
00:20:59,637 --> 00:21:00,338
Multiple federal courts have

484
00:21:00,338 --> 00:21:00,805
continued to block this freeze

485
00:21:00,805 --> 00:21:02,805
of grant money.

486
00:21:05,143 --> 00:21:06,770
Most are temporary.

487
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:10,277
A lot of blessings on this a

488
00:21:11,282 --> 00:21:12,500
very, very important case of

489
00:21:12,500 --> 00:21:15,500
combine 52 and three which are

490
00:21:16,954 --> 00:21:17,722
both trip and falls.

491
00:21:17,722 --> 00:21:18,456
And I'll say this this is

492
00:21:18,456 --> 00:21:21,456
interesting I just learned this

493
00:21:23,228 --> 00:21:23,995
It's legal duty.

494
00:21:23,995 --> 00:21:26,395
Duty of care is

495
00:21:28,733 --> 00:21:29,334
the foundational legal

496
00:21:29,334 --> 00:21:31,734
obligation to the city.

497
00:21:35,606 --> 00:21:35,974
Does it cause harm to bear?

498
00:21:35,974 --> 00:21:36,741
Excuse me.

499
00:21:36,741 --> 00:21:37,442
I'm going to read that again.

500
00:21:37,442 --> 00:21:39,842
Duty of care is

501
00:21:40,845 --> 00:21:41,579
the foundational legal

502
00:21:41,579 --> 00:21:42,414
obligation to the city doesn't

503
00:21:42,414 --> 00:21:46,140
cause harm to others in various

504
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:47,886
ways.

505
00:21:47,886 --> 00:21:52,860
A question for you In how many

506
00:21:54,392 --> 00:21:55,930
ways In how many other ways is

507
00:21:55,930 --> 00:21:55,393
the city of San Diego falling

508
00:21:55,393 --> 00:21:56,161
short?

509
00:21:56,161 --> 00:21:59,761
No pun intended Here on it's

510
00:22:00,232 --> 00:22:00,699
legal obligations to care.

511
00:22:00,699 --> 00:22:01,366
Duty of care.

512
00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:03,766
Thank you for that.

513
00:22:06,638 --> 00:22:07,339
I really enjoyed studying that

514
00:22:07,339 --> 00:22:10,339
on 64 which is the labor

515
00:22:11,342 --> 00:22:12,770
negotiation review the city's

516
00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:15,770
position on Meet and Confer

517
00:22:18,216 --> 00:22:21,816
negotiated no issues for me in

518
00:22:23,121 --> 00:22:23,889
this budget deficit time.

519
00:22:23,889 --> 00:22:24,589
I would appreciate actually

520
00:22:24,589 --> 00:22:27,589
knowing the city's position on

521
00:22:29,961 --> 00:22:32,961
where the employee's pay and

522
00:22:36,168 --> 00:22:36,835
benefits will impact priorities

523
00:22:36,835 --> 00:22:39,235
the deepest especially since

524
00:22:42,975 --> 00:22:43,375
deficits could get deeper and

525
00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:44,760
last longer.

526
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:44,742
So I really enjoy those two

527
00:22:44,742 --> 00:22:47,742
speakers in the chamber this

528
00:22:48,714 --> 00:22:49,414
morning because I think they

529
00:22:49,414 --> 00:22:50,282
were in my opinion sort of

530
00:22:50,282 --> 00:22:53,882
giving us two different sort of

531
00:22:54,452 --> 00:22:54,886
perspectives and they're both

532
00:22:54,886 --> 00:22:55,354
on the table.

533
00:22:55,354 --> 00:22:56,540
They're both in

534
00:22:56,540 --> 00:22:56,555
the conversation and we've got

535
00:22:56,555 --> 00:22:58,555
to work together.

536
00:23:00,910 --> 00:23:00,692
The art of Negotiation.

537
00:23:00,692 --> 00:23:01,360
You're very good at that

538
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,360
especially on the legal and

539
00:23:06,398 --> 00:23:06,765
they're trained in that So I'm

540
00:23:06,765 --> 00:23:07,199
with you.

541
00:23:07,199 --> 00:23:08,233
I support you.

542
00:23:08,233 --> 00:23:08,767
Have a beautiful day and go to

543
00:23:08,767 --> 00:23:10,767
all.

544
00:23:16,141 --> 00:23:16,574
Thank you.

545
00:23:16,574 --> 00:23:17,276
Blair Beakman.

546
00:23:17,276 --> 00:23:18,100
Please state which concession

547
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:21,145
items items you wish to speak

548
00:23:21,145 --> 00:23:21,513
to.

549
00:23:21,513 --> 00:23:23,513
Hi.

550
00:23:27,619 --> 00:23:28,587
Morning.

551
00:23:28,587 --> 00:23:31,890
I'd like to speak to items one,

552
00:23:31,890 --> 00:23:32,357
four, five and six.

553
00:23:32,357 --> 00:23:32,724
Please proceed.

554
00:23:32,724 --> 00:23:34,724
Thank you.

555
00:23:38,498 --> 00:23:39,980
We're happy me everyone to

556
00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:42,980
speak to see this one.

557
00:23:44,169 --> 00:23:44,903
If it is an item of sanctuary

558
00:23:44,903 --> 00:23:48,503
city issues in San Diego versus

559
00:23:49,408 --> 00:23:49,908
a sustainability institute

560
00:23:49,908 --> 00:23:50,576
versus Donald j.

561
00:23:50,576 --> 00:23:51,276
>> Trump, good luck in

562
00:23:51,276 --> 00:23:54,876
the argument that the ideas of

563
00:23:56,515 --> 00:23:57,216
sanctuary cities is if we

564
00:23:57,216 --> 00:23:59,616
practice basically our decent

565
00:24:02,688 --> 00:24:03,389
selves or decent beliefs and

566
00:24:03,389 --> 00:24:06,389
that people should be treated

567
00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:08,960
as equals that can be just as

568
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,662
effective if not a more

569
00:24:09,662 --> 00:24:12,620
effective way than constantly

570
00:24:14,533 --> 00:24:14,867
offering punitive concepts of

571
00:24:14,867 --> 00:24:15,534
society.

572
00:24:15,534 --> 00:24:16,201
And I think we worked out

573
00:24:16,201 --> 00:24:18,601
something pretty kind of

574
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:21,774
interesting.

575
00:24:21,774 --> 00:24:22,474
There can definitely be an

576
00:24:22,474 --> 00:24:23,208
argument about the balance of

577
00:24:23,208 --> 00:24:26,678
that but I think Sanctuary City

578
00:24:26,678 --> 00:24:27,413
is a very decent way to think

579
00:24:27,413 --> 00:24:28,113
and work and good luck in your

580
00:24:28,113 --> 00:24:31,113
continued efforts that I think

581
00:24:33,752 --> 00:24:37,952
we can have a strong case for

582
00:24:38,557 --> 00:24:38,890
providing for management issues

583
00:24:38,890 --> 00:24:39,692
.

584
00:24:39,692 --> 00:24:40,359
>> Man Boy I've been wanting to

585
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,930
say this a long time For as

586
00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:44,930
much as I deeply respect

587
00:24:45,631 --> 00:24:46,365
Councilperson over various

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ideas and opinions and that our

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city government workers really

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needed pay raises a few years

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ago.

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If city government workers city

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council and the mayor really

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seriously looked at themselves

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and offered to take some sort

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of pay cut no matter how small

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at this time I think it would

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just be an incredible boost to

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our community and we have an

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incredible respect for you.

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You would be geared towards a

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thinking of how to be working

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towards how to manage budget.

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You'd better ipo and we'd be

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working with a sense of trust

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and good efforts all around

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that If you guys are willing to

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actually take a pay cut

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together and really consider

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that please at this time.

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>> That's it.

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Be an awesome way to help build

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community.

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I feel and trust and like to

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consider that notion instead of

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continuously asking for

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increases however small by

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the way with 65 that's an old

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item that for me I wish I had a

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better legal understanding and

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better legal advice that people

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have money and then people

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don't have money and that we

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all have to be paying the same

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amount of bills is a decent

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noble gesture.

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But people also paying what

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they can afford should also be

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considered just invaluable and

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meaningful in that effort.

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And to conclude all of

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the Scott Wall issues dealing

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with now we're dealing with our

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speak pd in a really sad way

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right now we're dealing with

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the concepts of retaliation a

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lot and I hope along with

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the mayor's office and

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the community we are dealing

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with how to better consider

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retaliation.

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Think of Andrea.

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I mean it's grown to way out of

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proportion.

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We got to work on something

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together.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Our final speaker is Luis

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Rodolico Please state which

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closed session item or items

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you wish to speak to Item 250

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We are on the closed session

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agenda which includes c.

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S 116 as the as the reasons for

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c.

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>> s five and ca6 oh this is a

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public trust issue as well.

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Okay.

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You MAY need to speak to non

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agenda public comment or item

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250 in the afternoon.

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Okay.

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All right thank you.

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That does conclude public

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comment.

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>> All right.

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Thank you for that.

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We will now recess in

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the closed session and

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reconvene council today at 2

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P.M. Or shortly thereafter

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and

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good afternoon in the afternoon

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and the evening sessions of

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the MAY 18th, 2026 San Diego

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City Council meeting are

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adjourned due to unforeseen

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circumstances.

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Hearing of the items will be

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rescheduled to a future date.

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We are now adjourned to

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the next regularly scheduled

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council meeting on Tuesday May