1 00:00:56,180 --> 00:00:58,180 will 2 00:01:02,860 --> 00:01:02,954 Good morning. 3 00:01:02,954 --> 00:01:03,655 >> I will now call the City 4 00:01:03,655 --> 00:01:06,655 Council meeting of Tuesday MAY 5 00:01:08,259 --> 00:01:08,960 19th, 2026 to order After 6 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:09,527 yesterday's deadly shooting I 7 00:01:09,527 --> 00:01:10,228 reaffirm our Council's 8 00:01:10,228 --> 00:01:13,828 commitment to root out hate in 9 00:01:14,165 --> 00:01:14,933 any and every forum hate me 10 00:01:14,933 --> 00:01:15,867 have no safe place in our city. 11 00:01:15,867 --> 00:01:20,667 As a city and a city council we 12 00:01:20,672 --> 00:01:21,406 stand in solidarity with 13 00:01:21,406 --> 00:01:21,973 the Islamic center of San Diego 14 00:01:21,973 --> 00:01:22,340 and the broader Muslim 15 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:23,700 community. 16 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:23,308 No we are with you and your 17 00:01:23,308 --> 00:01:25,308 pain. 18 00:01:26,411 --> 00:01:27,144 We are with you and your 19 00:01:27,144 --> 00:01:27,545 weeping and we are with you in 20 00:01:27,545 --> 00:01:29,545 your sorrow. 21 00:01:31,216 --> 00:01:31,950 Three lives were lost yesterday 22 00:01:31,950 --> 00:01:32,584 falling victim to senseless, 23 00:01:32,584 --> 00:01:33,184 vile and hateful violence 24 00:01:33,184 --> 00:01:36,184 including the life of a 25 00:01:37,622 --> 00:01:38,290 security guard whose heroism 26 00:01:38,290 --> 00:01:38,590 prevented additional loss of 27 00:01:38,590 --> 00:01:39,491 life. 28 00:01:39,491 --> 00:01:43,661 I am grateful to him and for 29 00:01:43,661 --> 00:01:44,229 the swift action of our first 30 00:01:44,229 --> 00:01:44,930 responders who secured 31 00:01:44,930 --> 00:01:45,597 the building to ensure a safe 32 00:01:45,597 --> 00:01:48,597 outcome for the children and 33 00:01:48,767 --> 00:01:49,501 school staff. 34 00:01:49,501 --> 00:01:50,168 My heart is with the families 35 00:01:50,168 --> 00:01:50,735 and loved ones of those lost 36 00:01:50,735 --> 00:01:53,500 and those affected by 37 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:54,380 yesterday's tragic events. 38 00:01:54,380 --> 00:01:58,238 Please join me in a moment of 39 00:02:57,936 --> 00:02:58,243 silence 40 00:02:58,243 --> 00:02:58,637 . 41 00:02:58,637 --> 00:02:59,371 Thank you. 42 00:02:59,371 --> 00:03:00,500 Would any of my colleagues like 43 00:03:00,500 --> 00:03:03,500 to share a few words? 44 00:03:04,776 --> 00:03:05,644 Council Member Campbell Thank 45 00:03:05,644 --> 00:03:09,244 you and thank you for your 46 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:11,750 words. 47 00:03:11,750 --> 00:03:14,750 Council PRESIDENT My heart is 48 00:03:16,388 --> 00:03:17,189 in the hearts of my staff. 49 00:03:17,189 --> 00:03:17,923 Go out to the families and 50 00:03:17,923 --> 00:03:21,523 friends of those who lost their 51 00:03:22,261 --> 00:03:22,995 lives yesterday in a senseless 52 00:03:22,995 --> 00:03:23,895 act of hatred and violence. 53 00:03:23,895 --> 00:03:27,495 Our community is in shock from 54 00:03:28,267 --> 00:03:28,967 this violent hate crime in 55 00:03:28,967 --> 00:03:31,967 the strongest terms I condemn 56 00:03:34,238 --> 00:03:35,600 this act of anti-Islam advocate 57 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:35,340 and all hate and all hate 58 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:37,340 crimes. 59 00:03:40,212 --> 00:03:40,913 There's absolutely no place in 60 00:03:40,913 --> 00:03:41,313 San Diego for hate or violence 61 00:03:41,313 --> 00:03:43,313 of any kind. 62 00:03:46,218 --> 00:03:46,885 All San Diego does deserve 63 00:03:46,885 --> 00:03:49,285 dignity, respect and safety. 64 00:03:52,256 --> 00:03:52,958 America was founded on 65 00:03:52,958 --> 00:03:53,625 the principle of freedom for 66 00:03:53,625 --> 00:03:57,225 all people and act of hate 67 00:03:58,163 --> 00:03:58,797 based on race, religion, creed 68 00:03:58,797 --> 00:03:59,498 or sexual orientation are 69 00:03:59,498 --> 00:04:01,498 fundamentally un-American and 70 00:04:04,202 --> 00:04:04,535 do not represent our country's 71 00:04:04,535 --> 00:04:06,535 values. 72 00:04:09,841 --> 00:04:10,609 >> We appreciate the good work 73 00:04:10,609 --> 00:04:13,609 of our public safety officers 74 00:04:16,481 --> 00:04:17,820 and we send our heartfelt 75 00:04:17,820 --> 00:04:17,450 sympathy to the families 76 00:04:17,450 --> 00:04:18,361 involved. 77 00:04:18,361 --> 00:04:18,579 >> Thank you. 78 00:04:18,579 --> 00:04:20,579 Thank you. 79 00:04:22,754 --> 00:04:23,522 Council member Campbell. 80 00:04:23,522 --> 00:04:26,522 With that Mark, please call 81 00:04:29,195 --> 00:04:29,928 the roll if I MAY. 82 00:04:29,928 --> 00:04:32,328 Councilmember Foster Thank you. 83 00:04:34,100 --> 00:04:35,000 Council PRESIDENT And my 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,600 apologies for coming on the mic 85 00:04:40,940 --> 00:04:45,740 late but I just want to take a 86 00:04:45,945 --> 00:04:46,277 moment from yesterday's 87 00:04:46,277 --> 00:04:48,277 actions. 88 00:04:54,987 --> 00:04:55,654 It's just heartbreaking And I 89 00:04:55,654 --> 00:04:59,254 think we have said over and 90 00:05:00,292 --> 00:05:01,260 over from this dais that there 91 00:05:01,260 --> 00:05:05,460 is no place for hate in San 92 00:05:06,432 --> 00:05:07,366 Diego. 93 00:05:07,366 --> 00:05:11,904 But I think as much as we say 94 00:05:11,904 --> 00:05:15,974 that I think we all need to 95 00:05:15,974 --> 00:05:18,974 understand that San Diego is 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:23,716 that our words matter no matter 97 00:05:23,716 --> 00:05:26,716 the challenges that we face, 98 00:05:34,260 --> 00:05:35,227 the rhetoric that is being 99 00:05:35,227 --> 00:05:38,827 provided It has never been more 100 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:44,700 divisive in my time in the 50 101 00:05:47,106 --> 00:05:47,906 years that I've been walking 102 00:05:47,906 --> 00:05:52,106 But I would like to think is 103 00:05:52,411 --> 00:05:53,479 the United States of America 104 00:05:53,479 --> 00:05:57,790 And I just want to throw 105 00:05:58,851 --> 00:06:01,251 caution to the wind. 106 00:06:04,590 --> 00:06:05,224 We can disagree on a policy but 107 00:06:05,224 --> 00:06:07,624 I'm just not understanding 108 00:06:10,196 --> 00:06:10,562 where the hate continues to 109 00:06:10,562 --> 00:06:12,562 come from. 110 00:06:16,235 --> 00:06:16,935 And so if we can as we continue 111 00:06:16,935 --> 00:06:20,535 to move forward and as we 112 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:22,174 continue to look at how we make 113 00:06:22,174 --> 00:06:25,174 the United States a better 114 00:06:27,713 --> 00:06:28,481 place as we look to make 115 00:06:28,481 --> 00:06:29,182 the city of San Diego a better 116 00:06:29,182 --> 00:06:31,582 place, please, please let's 117 00:06:33,352 --> 00:06:33,953 spend more time loving our 118 00:06:33,953 --> 00:06:35,953 neighbors, learning our 119 00:06:40,590 --> 00:06:40,426 neighbors, accepting our 120 00:06:40,426 --> 00:06:42,426 neighbors. 121 00:06:45,732 --> 00:06:46,598 All of us are different. 122 00:06:46,598 --> 00:06:46,999 I'd like to say all of us are 123 00:06:46,999 --> 00:06:47,600 custom made. 124 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:48,340 That's why you have your 125 00:06:48,340 --> 00:06:50,340 fingerprints. 126 00:06:51,104 --> 00:06:51,904 I have my fingerprints. 127 00:06:51,904 --> 00:06:52,271 We are going to be inherently 128 00:06:52,271 --> 00:06:54,271 different. 129 00:06:57,810 --> 00:07:00,810 But different is not wrong. 130 00:07:02,882 --> 00:07:03,182 Religious beliefs are not wrong 131 00:07:03,182 --> 00:07:04,500 . 132 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:07,650 We must embrace and we must 133 00:07:07,754 --> 00:07:10,154 love on one another. 134 00:07:13,626 --> 00:07:14,560 I also just want to acknowledge 135 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,160 I mean I believe the security 136 00:07:19,132 --> 00:07:23,332 guard that lost his life he was 137 00:07:25,371 --> 00:07:25,972 a District four resident and as 138 00:07:25,972 --> 00:07:28,972 a chief of police said 139 00:07:30,777 --> 00:07:31,544 yesterday he is a hero. 140 00:07:31,544 --> 00:07:32,245 It's my understanding if he 141 00:07:32,245 --> 00:07:32,879 would not have intervened that 142 00:07:32,879 --> 00:07:34,879 potentially those shooters 143 00:07:37,283 --> 00:07:37,984 would have found their way to a 144 00:07:37,984 --> 00:07:38,918 classroom full of young kids. 145 00:07:38,918 --> 00:07:43,190 And so I think we all need to 146 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:45,190 understand that. 147 00:07:48,828 --> 00:07:49,596 And again, I just ask that we 148 00:07:49,596 --> 00:07:53,196 must spend more time loving on 149 00:07:53,366 --> 00:07:53,999 one another and trying to 150 00:07:53,999 --> 00:07:54,734 understand one another and 151 00:07:54,734 --> 00:07:57,734 accepting one another no matter 152 00:07:59,873 --> 00:08:00,440 what the differences are. 153 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,840 And thank you, Council 154 00:08:04,878 --> 00:08:05,578 PRESIDENT And thank you to our 155 00:08:05,578 --> 00:08:06,460 first responders and thank you 156 00:08:06,460 --> 00:08:08,460 to the families. 157 00:08:10,317 --> 00:08:11,170 I can only imagine what 158 00:08:11,170 --> 00:08:11,751 the phone call could have been 159 00:08:11,751 --> 00:08:15,951 as a parent and you get that 160 00:08:16,389 --> 00:08:17,900 phone call of a situation like 161 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:17,924 that happening with your kids. 162 00:08:17,924 --> 00:08:21,524 So my heart goes out to 163 00:08:22,361 --> 00:08:23,162 the community the entire city 164 00:08:23,162 --> 00:08:27,362 of San Diego and my heart goes 165 00:08:28,535 --> 00:08:28,957 out to MR. Ameena Abdulla and 166 00:08:28,957 --> 00:08:30,957 his family. 167 00:08:34,374 --> 00:08:34,840 He had a family kids life. 168 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,509 So thank you. 169 00:08:35,509 --> 00:08:38,509 Thank you for the courage. 170 00:08:40,814 --> 00:08:41,781 But it this is just a tragic 171 00:08:41,781 --> 00:08:45,981 but a tragedy that we have to 172 00:08:47,420 --> 00:08:48,188 come endure this. 173 00:08:48,188 --> 00:08:48,855 So thank you council PRESIDENT. 174 00:08:48,855 --> 00:08:51,255 That concludes my comments. 175 00:08:53,930 --> 00:08:53,827 Thank you. 176 00:08:53,827 --> 00:08:54,528 >> Gloucester Council PRESIDENT 177 00:08:54,528 --> 00:08:58,640 Pro Tem Kelly Thank I suppose 178 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:58,764 I'll be short here but thank 179 00:08:58,764 --> 00:08:59,499 you for offering some remarks 180 00:08:59,499 --> 00:09:00,199 on behalf of the Council and of 181 00:09:00,199 --> 00:09:02,199 course adjourning yesterday's 182 00:09:03,170 --> 00:09:03,603 meetings in light of everything 183 00:09:03,603 --> 00:09:04,604 taking place. 184 00:09:04,604 --> 00:09:08,804 I think as a parent like many 185 00:09:09,810 --> 00:09:10,510 others hearing the news 186 00:09:10,510 --> 00:09:12,910 recognizing that involved not 187 00:09:15,482 --> 00:09:16,160 just the mosque but a school 188 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:16,749 was very jarring. 189 00:09:16,749 --> 00:09:17,451 The thing for me was to see 190 00:09:17,451 --> 00:09:20,451 the images and videos of 191 00:09:21,221 --> 00:09:21,721 children having to be evacuated 192 00:09:21,721 --> 00:09:22,389 and led to safety. 193 00:09:22,389 --> 00:09:25,389 I appreciate the words of 194 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,561 Councilmember Foster because I 195 00:09:28,561 --> 00:09:32,761 think we do talk a lot about 196 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:33,767 hate and we've seen it and it's 197 00:09:33,767 --> 00:09:34,401 in many forms in our community 198 00:09:34,401 --> 00:09:35,680 over the years And I think 199 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,680 there's no doubt in people's 200 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:40,674 minds that what we've seen in 201 00:09:40,674 --> 00:09:41,442 terms of hate has arisen And it 202 00:09:41,442 --> 00:09:45,612 says a lot about where we are 203 00:09:45,612 --> 00:09:45,946 as a society and our need to 204 00:09:45,946 --> 00:09:46,647 respond. 205 00:09:46,647 --> 00:09:49,470 There's one there's something 206 00:09:51,852 --> 00:09:52,753 that I often say which is that 207 00:09:52,753 --> 00:09:53,520 we have to be better than this 208 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,120 And I just want to add 209 00:09:57,791 --> 00:09:58,525 the words from our arts 210 00:09:58,525 --> 00:09:59,126 commissioner from District six, 211 00:09:59,126 --> 00:10:02,126 Dennis just one who was 212 00:10:03,964 --> 00:10:04,732 capturing this last night some 213 00:10:04,732 --> 00:10:05,432 of his own thoughts and he very 214 00:10:05,432 --> 00:10:09,403 simple but he he noted that at 215 00:10:09,403 --> 00:10:09,937 some point we have to choose to 216 00:10:09,937 --> 00:10:10,704 be better than this. 217 00:10:10,704 --> 00:10:14,304 And for me that single sentence 218 00:10:15,109 --> 00:10:15,976 has been quite profound because 219 00:10:15,976 --> 00:10:16,677 I think we all think we know 220 00:10:16,677 --> 00:10:17,177 what's right and wrong and how 221 00:10:17,177 --> 00:10:19,577 we can be better. 222 00:10:21,115 --> 00:10:21,982 But at the end the day there's 223 00:10:21,982 --> 00:10:26,182 a choice to be made And it's 224 00:10:27,755 --> 00:10:28,455 not just whether folks are in 225 00:10:28,455 --> 00:10:29,156 hate, it's also how we respond 226 00:10:29,156 --> 00:10:32,156 as a community and especially 227 00:10:32,893 --> 00:10:33,494 in a time of mourning how we 228 00:10:33,494 --> 00:10:34,970 choose to come together. 229 00:10:34,970 --> 00:10:35,290 So that's what I hope we 230 00:10:35,290 --> 00:10:38,499 continue to do as a city moving 231 00:10:38,499 --> 00:10:38,999 forward. 232 00:10:38,999 --> 00:10:39,400 >> Thank you. 233 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:40,100 Thank you. 234 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:40,467 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee 235 00:10:40,467 --> 00:10:42,467 All right. 236 00:10:44,805 --> 00:10:45,472 With that? 237 00:10:45,472 --> 00:10:45,839 Clerk Please call the roll. 238 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:46,473 Thank you. 239 00:10:46,473 --> 00:10:48,473 Council PRESIDENT Council 240 00:10:51,812 --> 00:10:52,479 member Campbell here Council 241 00:10:52,479 --> 00:10:54,879 Member Weber Council Member 242 00:10:55,983 --> 00:10:56,717 Foster here Council Member Von 243 00:10:56,717 --> 00:10:59,717 Weber Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem 244 00:11:02,723 --> 00:11:03,424 Lee here Council Member Campion 245 00:11:03,424 --> 00:11:04,910 Council Member Moreno Present 246 00:11:04,910 --> 00:11:07,910 Council Member Elk River and 247 00:11:09,263 --> 00:11:09,830 Council PRESIDENT McGovern 248 00:11:09,830 --> 00:11:10,498 present Also attending 249 00:11:10,498 --> 00:11:11,132 the meeting our Chief Deputy 250 00:11:11,132 --> 00:11:11,764 City Attorney Cathy Simon. 251 00:11:11,764 --> 00:11:13,764 Independent Budget analyst 252 00:11:15,969 --> 00:11:16,670 Charles Margo Council Affairs 253 00:11:16,670 --> 00:11:17,338 Advisor in the Mayor's office 254 00:11:17,338 --> 00:11:17,972 criticizing and myself your 255 00:11:17,972 --> 00:11:20,972 city clerk the elephant as 256 00:11:21,750 --> 00:11:21,475 the Council PRESIDENT Thank you 257 00:11:21,475 --> 00:11:22,242 City Clerk. 258 00:11:22,242 --> 00:11:25,842 >> Quorum is now present as we 259 00:11:26,113 --> 00:11:26,480 too often do at city council 260 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:27,214 meetings. 261 00:11:27,214 --> 00:11:27,815 I want to remind everyone about 262 00:11:27,815 --> 00:11:30,215 the city's practices and 263 00:11:32,586 --> 00:11:33,220 procedures for public comment 264 00:11:33,220 --> 00:11:33,821 at city council meetings 265 00:11:33,821 --> 00:11:34,455 The city welcomes public 266 00:11:34,455 --> 00:11:36,855 participation at our City 267 00:11:38,159 --> 00:11:38,792 Council meetings speakers MAY 268 00:11:38,792 --> 00:11:39,427 address the Council during 269 00:11:39,427 --> 00:11:40,160 public comment and also in 270 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,160 connection with a specific item 271 00:11:44,265 --> 00:11:44,965 of business on the agenda. 272 00:11:44,965 --> 00:11:45,600 However, the city must make 273 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,199 sure that no one person or 274 00:11:46,199 --> 00:11:46,834 group of people disrupt 275 00:11:46,834 --> 00:11:50,434 the meeting in a way that 276 00:11:51,380 --> 00:11:51,672 prohibits other speakers from 277 00:11:51,672 --> 00:11:52,339 expressing their ideas and 278 00:11:52,339 --> 00:11:53,700 opinions excessive yelling, 279 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:55,407 screaming or speaking beyond 280 00:11:56,544 --> 00:11:57,244 once a lot of time for examples 281 00:11:57,244 --> 00:11:57,644 of such behavior that disrupts 282 00:11:57,644 --> 00:11:58,346 the meeting. 283 00:11:58,346 --> 00:12:01,946 So to make sure that everyone 284 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:03,683 here has an opportunity to 285 00:12:03,683 --> 00:12:04,252 address the council I will 286 00:12:04,252 --> 00:12:04,919 alert an individual or 287 00:12:04,919 --> 00:12:07,919 individuals if I think their 288 00:12:08,989 --> 00:12:09,657 conduct becomes disruptive. 289 00:12:09,657 --> 00:12:10,391 The disruption continues. 290 00:12:10,391 --> 00:12:10,892 I won't rule the individual out 291 00:12:10,892 --> 00:12:11,492 of order and after 292 00:12:11,492 --> 00:12:13,492 the disruption continues 293 00:12:15,530 --> 00:12:16,130 further I will declare a recess 294 00:12:16,130 --> 00:12:16,864 so we can restore order. 295 00:12:16,864 --> 00:12:17,465 At that point I will direct 296 00:12:17,465 --> 00:12:19,865 the individual to leave 297 00:12:21,335 --> 00:12:22,360 the room and if the individual 298 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:22,603 refuses the police will escort 299 00:12:22,603 --> 00:12:23,370 the individual out of 300 00:12:23,370 --> 00:12:25,370 the building. 301 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,241 If we have to repeat this 302 00:12:27,241 --> 00:12:27,875 process of warning and 303 00:12:27,875 --> 00:12:28,576 recessing the meeting, all 304 00:12:28,576 --> 00:12:29,177 members of the public will be 305 00:12:29,177 --> 00:12:29,728 excused from the council 306 00:12:29,728 --> 00:12:31,728 chamber. 307 00:12:32,847 --> 00:12:33,347 Credentialed media will be 308 00:12:33,347 --> 00:12:33,948 allowed to remain. 309 00:12:33,948 --> 00:12:34,615 Once again we have these 310 00:12:34,615 --> 00:12:35,283 practices and procedures to 311 00:12:35,283 --> 00:12:38,283 protect the rights of others 312 00:12:38,820 --> 00:12:39,487 who wish to address the Council 313 00:12:39,487 --> 00:12:40,188 and to allow the Council to 314 00:12:40,188 --> 00:12:42,588 conduct the public's business. 315 00:12:44,659 --> 00:12:45,226 With that we will begin this 316 00:12:45,226 --> 00:12:45,927 morning with the land 317 00:12:45,927 --> 00:12:46,594 acknowledgment and the Pledge 318 00:12:46,594 --> 00:12:49,594 of Allegiance led by Council 319 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,640 member Moreno. 320 00:12:55,802 --> 00:12:56,571 Will you please stand? 321 00:12:56,571 --> 00:12:57,204 >> We respectfully acknowledge 322 00:12:57,204 --> 00:12:57,872 that becoming a nation are 323 00:12:57,872 --> 00:13:00,272 the original inhabitants of 324 00:13:02,477 --> 00:13:02,843 the Unceded land now known as 325 00:13:02,843 --> 00:13:03,578 San Diego. 326 00:13:03,578 --> 00:13:04,212 Despite enduring the horrors of 327 00:13:04,212 --> 00:13:06,212 genocide and colonization, 328 00:13:08,917 --> 00:13:09,283 the coming ice spirit remains 329 00:13:09,283 --> 00:13:09,917 unbroken. 330 00:13:09,917 --> 00:13:10,618 We honor the resilience of 331 00:13:10,618 --> 00:13:13,618 their ancestors who fought to 332 00:13:15,122 --> 00:13:15,823 protect their culture and land. 333 00:13:15,823 --> 00:13:16,491 Today they carry their legacy 334 00:13:16,491 --> 00:13:18,891 forward ensuring that their 335 00:13:20,528 --> 00:13:21,161 traditions continue to thrive 336 00:13:21,161 --> 00:13:21,896 in gratitude and strength. 337 00:13:21,896 --> 00:13:22,564 We stand with the United Nation 338 00:13:22,564 --> 00:13:25,564 connected to our past and 339 00:13:27,535 --> 00:13:28,136 committed to a thriving future. 340 00:13:28,136 --> 00:13:28,803 If you could please face 341 00:13:28,803 --> 00:13:32,403 the flag, put your hand over 342 00:13:32,507 --> 00:13:32,807 your heart and repeat after me 343 00:13:32,807 --> 00:13:33,541 . 344 00:13:33,541 --> 00:13:34,275 I pledge allegiance to the flag 345 00:13:34,275 --> 00:13:37,875 of the United States of America 346 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:39,614 and to the Republic for which 347 00:13:39,614 --> 00:13:41,549 it stands one nation under GOD, 348 00:13:41,549 --> 00:13:42,490 indivisible with liberty and 349 00:13:42,490 --> 00:13:44,490 justice for all. 350 00:13:48,623 --> 00:13:49,323 Clerk Please go over how 351 00:13:49,323 --> 00:13:52,323 the public can offer their 352 00:13:55,630 --> 00:13:55,505 testimony. 353 00:13:55,505 --> 00:13:55,964 Thank you. 354 00:13:55,964 --> 00:13:56,597 Council PRESIDENT. 355 00:13:56,597 --> 00:13:57,265 I'd now like to highlight 356 00:13:57,265 --> 00:14:00,865 the slide on the screen that 357 00:14:01,268 --> 00:14:01,969 reviews the public enough of 358 00:14:01,969 --> 00:14:02,437 their public testimony during 359 00:14:02,437 --> 00:14:02,970 today's meeting. 360 00:14:02,970 --> 00:14:03,672 Please note the time 361 00:14:03,672 --> 00:14:05,672 allocations for proclamations 362 00:14:05,807 --> 00:14:06,541 and consent items for meeting 363 00:14:06,541 --> 00:14:09,541 management purposes is one item 364 00:14:10,111 --> 00:14:10,812 one minute per item with three 365 00:14:10,812 --> 00:14:11,546 minutes max For three or more 366 00:14:11,546 --> 00:14:12,280 items the order can be found on 367 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,280 the agenda Summary found online 368 00:14:17,452 --> 00:14:17,819 or at the table in the back of 369 00:14:17,819 --> 00:14:18,453 the room. 370 00:14:18,453 --> 00:14:19,540 If you're in person please 371 00:14:19,540 --> 00:14:19,688 complete the speaker set 372 00:14:19,688 --> 00:14:22,190 looking at the entrance of 373 00:14:22,190 --> 00:14:22,757 chambers and bring it to 374 00:14:22,757 --> 00:14:23,458 the front of the room. 375 00:14:23,458 --> 00:14:24,920 Council members are available 376 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:24,725 near the entrance and can 377 00:14:24,725 --> 00:14:27,125 assist with questions and 378 00:14:27,495 --> 00:14:28,163 speakers Lips no further 379 00:14:28,163 --> 00:14:28,863 in-person testimony will be 380 00:14:28,863 --> 00:14:29,363 taken once the council begins 381 00:14:29,363 --> 00:14:30,980 Virtual testimony. 382 00:14:30,980 --> 00:14:30,398 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 383 00:14:30,398 --> 00:14:32,398 right. 384 00:14:34,236 --> 00:14:34,936 Thank you Clerk For our first 385 00:14:34,936 --> 00:14:35,670 order of business this morning 386 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:39,870 I will be returning a few items 387 00:14:40,475 --> 00:14:41,276 back to staff First from our 388 00:14:41,276 --> 00:14:44,276 last use me proclamations I'm 389 00:14:44,946 --> 00:14:45,747 returning items 33 and 39 again 390 00:14:45,747 --> 00:14:48,747 33 and 39 will not be heard 391 00:14:50,752 --> 00:14:51,419 this morning Then two items 392 00:14:51,419 --> 00:14:53,819 scheduled for our afternoon 393 00:14:55,957 --> 00:14:57,250 session item 330 and as final 394 00:14:57,250 --> 00:15:00,250 three again item 330 and as 395 00:15:00,896 --> 00:15:01,630 final three will not be heard 396 00:15:01,630 --> 00:15:02,330 this afternoon, These items are 397 00:15:02,330 --> 00:15:05,930 now returned to staff and will 398 00:15:07,135 --> 00:15:07,903 be heard at a later date. 399 00:15:07,903 --> 00:15:08,637 With that we will dispense with 400 00:15:08,637 --> 00:15:11,637 the balance of the proclamation 401 00:15:12,674 --> 00:15:13,441 items. 402 00:15:13,441 --> 00:15:14,760 >> City Clerk Thank you Council 403 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:16,760 PRESIDENT The proclamation 404 00:15:19,147 --> 00:15:20,150 items being approved are items 405 00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:22,150 30 through 3234 through 38 and 406 00:15:23,719 --> 00:15:27,220 s 502 s5o2 with as the Council 407 00:15:27,220 --> 00:15:27,623 PRESIDENT Noted item 33 and 39 408 00:15:27,623 --> 00:15:30,230 being returned to staff. 409 00:15:31,827 --> 00:15:32,628 We did receive comments on item 410 00:15:32,628 --> 00:15:33,161 31 in favor of your comment 411 00:15:33,161 --> 00:15:33,862 form which have been 412 00:15:33,862 --> 00:15:36,862 distributed to the Council for 413 00:15:38,660 --> 00:15:38,734 the long period for 414 00:15:38,734 --> 00:15:39,368 the proclamation is now open 415 00:15:39,368 --> 00:15:40,350 Each speaker will have one 416 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:43,350 minute per item per person. 417 00:15:43,672 --> 00:15:44,408 If you would like to speak on 418 00:15:44,408 --> 00:15:45,140 three or more items you'll have 419 00:15:45,140 --> 00:15:45,707 a maximum of three minutes If I 420 00:15:45,707 --> 00:15:48,107 can have the following 421 00:15:49,745 --> 00:15:50,780 individuals please come 422 00:15:50,780 --> 00:15:52,780 forward. 423 00:15:55,617 --> 00:15:56,317 Katrina Spears Bucket Please 424 00:15:56,317 --> 00:15:56,985 come forward and you have time 425 00:15:56,985 --> 00:15:57,786 to you by Cynthia Gilliam if 426 00:15:57,786 --> 00:16:01,386 you can please raise your hand 427 00:16:01,757 --> 00:16:05,357 So then thank you And you're 428 00:16:05,828 --> 00:16:06,594 speaking on item as 5o2 You'll 429 00:16:06,594 --> 00:16:10,194 have two minutes once you get 430 00:16:11,165 --> 00:16:13,165 to the microphone. 431 00:16:18,374 --> 00:16:19,208 Good morning everyone. 432 00:16:19,208 --> 00:16:19,942 First off I would acknowledge 433 00:16:19,942 --> 00:16:20,609 other council members and thank 434 00:16:20,609 --> 00:16:24,209 you for having us here today 435 00:16:24,513 --> 00:16:25,246 and everyone here as well. 436 00:16:25,246 --> 00:16:28,846 I have had my mother in 437 00:16:29,686 --> 00:16:30,386 the pink hat that is to Marcia 438 00:16:30,386 --> 00:16:31,353 Billie Joe Spears And I'm here 439 00:16:31,353 --> 00:16:35,553 today to not only honor her but 440 00:16:37,493 --> 00:16:38,227 to recognize her the knowledge, 441 00:16:38,227 --> 00:16:40,361 all the goodwill and work she's 442 00:16:40,361 --> 00:16:40,762 done in the city of San Diego 443 00:16:40,762 --> 00:16:41,530 since 1958. 444 00:16:41,530 --> 00:16:45,130 My mother was a young girl 445 00:16:47,102 --> 00:16:47,802 living in Louisiana and what a 446 00:16:47,802 --> 00:16:48,404 big dream she's always tell us 447 00:16:48,404 --> 00:16:49,104 when we were younger But 448 00:16:49,104 --> 00:16:53,304 the big dream she had about a 449 00:16:53,641 --> 00:16:54,343 bit of excuse me a big city 450 00:16:54,343 --> 00:16:57,343 with water surrounding it And 451 00:16:58,380 --> 00:16:58,981 that's what we have to American 452 00:16:58,981 --> 00:17:01,381 finest city San Diego, 453 00:17:03,218 --> 00:17:04,200 California Here she had seven 454 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:04,753 She brought in her four kids 455 00:17:04,753 --> 00:17:08,953 out with her and the three that 456 00:17:09,225 --> 00:17:09,925 came later to San Diego and I 457 00:17:09,925 --> 00:17:10,693 want to let everyone know not 458 00:17:10,693 --> 00:17:14,893 only was she a great mother to 459 00:17:15,231 --> 00:17:15,864 us but a great teacher and a 460 00:17:15,864 --> 00:17:16,432 great pastor and she holds 461 00:17:16,432 --> 00:17:19,432 the title of a pastor. 462 00:17:21,771 --> 00:17:22,238 As a young girl she always 463 00:17:22,238 --> 00:17:23,380 wanted to help. 464 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:27,238 She submit herself to GOD at a 465 00:17:27,943 --> 00:17:28,644 very, very early age And in 466 00:17:28,644 --> 00:17:28,978 doing so she left behind her 467 00:17:28,978 --> 00:17:29,712 career. 468 00:17:29,712 --> 00:17:33,582 She had a career with the city 469 00:17:33,582 --> 00:17:34,350 of Diego. 470 00:17:34,350 --> 00:17:35,283 She was a real estate agent. 471 00:17:35,283 --> 00:17:39,483 She is now full time and always 472 00:17:39,555 --> 00:17:40,256 has been a pastor. 473 00:17:40,256 --> 00:17:40,856 My mother unselfishly gave her 474 00:17:40,856 --> 00:17:43,256 life to street ministry. 475 00:17:45,528 --> 00:17:46,162 She had a church, a normal 476 00:17:46,162 --> 00:17:46,896 life, had a church several 477 00:17:46,896 --> 00:17:50,496 churches in San Diego And doing 478 00:17:51,401 --> 00:17:52,100 so she not only served people 479 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:52,701 but she served GOD and 480 00:17:52,701 --> 00:17:56,301 providing we have set we have 481 00:17:57,140 --> 00:17:57,840 homes for men and women. 482 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,840 She also did street ministry 483 00:18:02,445 --> 00:18:02,745 with tents for Ocean View Park 484 00:18:02,745 --> 00:18:03,412 . 485 00:18:03,412 --> 00:18:03,946 She had revivals, she did 486 00:18:03,946 --> 00:18:06,346 church you name it. 487 00:18:06,849 --> 00:18:07,517 My mom was one of the first 488 00:18:07,517 --> 00:18:08,151 women as a pastor and 489 00:18:08,151 --> 00:18:11,151 recognized as a pastor in 490 00:18:13,590 --> 00:18:14,257 the city of San Diego In 491 00:18:14,257 --> 00:18:14,957 the community she held many 492 00:18:14,957 --> 00:18:17,357 meetings feeding the homeless 493 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:19,761 all while sharing the good news 494 00:18:19,761 --> 00:18:20,463 of Jesus Christ Our Lord, thank 495 00:18:20,463 --> 00:18:23,463 you for all your celebrations. 496 00:18:25,601 --> 00:18:25,979 >> Her 90th birthday she turns 497 00:18:25,979 --> 00:18:26,435 90. 498 00:18:26,435 --> 00:18:28,835 Mom, raise your hand. 499 00:18:31,941 --> 00:18:32,641 There she is right there with 500 00:18:32,641 --> 00:18:33,900 somebody I would like to teach 501 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:33,309 you time. 502 00:18:33,309 --> 00:18:33,810 Okay. 503 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:36,210 Thank you so much. 504 00:18:37,213 --> 00:18:37,780 Okay. 505 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:38,800 >> Thank you. 506 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:38,814 Sorry. 507 00:18:38,814 --> 00:18:39,615 We do have to be fair, but 508 00:18:39,615 --> 00:18:41,784 somebody as good as you did 509 00:18:41,784 --> 00:18:42,584 your time. 510 00:18:42,584 --> 00:18:43,185 >> We have no additional 511 00:18:43,185 --> 00:18:43,786 speakers here in council 512 00:18:43,786 --> 00:18:46,186 chambers going to those 513 00:18:48,724 --> 00:18:49,492 participating remotely. 514 00:18:49,492 --> 00:18:49,859 We have four speakers in 515 00:18:49,859 --> 00:18:50,660 the queue. 516 00:18:50,660 --> 00:18:53,660 Please note again that items 33 517 00:18:54,630 --> 00:18:54,730 and 39 were returned so no 518 00:18:54,730 --> 00:18:55,131 comments to be should be to 519 00:18:55,131 --> 00:18:55,832 those items. 520 00:18:55,832 --> 00:18:59,432 Hector if you can please on 521 00:18:59,635 --> 00:19:00,603 mute and let me know which item 522 00:19:00,603 --> 00:19:04,803 or items you wish to speak to 523 00:19:06,276 --> 00:19:06,578 The proclamation items Which 524 00:19:06,578 --> 00:19:08,578 one? 525 00:19:10,713 --> 00:19:13,113 I don't know which 526 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:15,485 the proclamation is 130 of 527 00:19:15,485 --> 00:19:15,985 the item 33. 528 00:19:15,985 --> 00:19:16,552 Please proceed. 529 00:19:16,552 --> 00:19:18,952 You have one minute. 530 00:19:20,957 --> 00:19:21,624 So in the history of our city 531 00:19:21,624 --> 00:19:22,525 especially at the time it is 532 00:19:22,525 --> 00:19:26,725 now we have got to make more 533 00:19:27,162 --> 00:19:27,864 proclamations to other groups 534 00:19:27,864 --> 00:19:30,864 of people and knowledge their 535 00:19:32,101 --> 00:19:32,836 suffering and kind of wide open 536 00:19:32,836 --> 00:19:33,636 especially right now I proclaim 537 00:19:33,636 --> 00:19:38,174 we're going to be in for a long 538 00:19:38,174 --> 00:19:38,875 meeting the next couple of days 539 00:19:38,875 --> 00:19:39,542 and you guys might want to 540 00:19:39,542 --> 00:19:43,142 order in order some Uber for 541 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:44,981 some food in and just keep 542 00:19:44,981 --> 00:19:47,981 the meeting going so everyone 543 00:19:50,530 --> 00:19:50,854 can talk and have a good day by 544 00:19:50,854 --> 00:19:51,721 Blair Wickman If you can please 545 00:19:51,721 --> 00:19:53,156 unmute and let me know which 546 00:19:53,156 --> 00:19:57,356 item or items you wish to speak 547 00:19:58,895 --> 00:19:59,429 to. 548 00:19:59,429 --> 00:20:01,429 I'm Blair Beekman. 549 00:20:03,633 --> 00:20:04,501 I want to speak on three items 550 00:20:04,501 --> 00:20:08,371 with you If you can please let 551 00:20:08,371 --> 00:20:08,772 me know which three items for 552 00:20:08,772 --> 00:20:09,105 the record. 553 00:20:09,105 --> 00:20:11,105 >> Yeah. 554 00:20:12,575 --> 00:20:14,575 Item 31. 555 00:20:18,214 --> 00:20:21,214 Item 36 and item five hundred. 556 00:20:23,753 --> 00:20:24,153 >> Please proceed. 557 00:20:24,153 --> 00:20:24,921 Thank you. 558 00:20:24,921 --> 00:20:27,921 You know, it's my understanding 559 00:20:29,926 --> 00:20:30,594 that the Brown Act if a meeting 560 00:20:30,594 --> 00:20:34,194 an item is not been spoken 561 00:20:35,310 --> 00:20:35,732 before in council or committee 562 00:20:35,732 --> 00:20:36,433 you have to allow public 563 00:20:36,433 --> 00:20:40,330 comment if you take it off. 564 00:20:40,937 --> 00:20:41,705 >> So just a real note that we 565 00:20:41,705 --> 00:20:42,305 can talk about at a later time 566 00:20:42,305 --> 00:20:44,705 about the Buddha Buddha 567 00:20:47,877 --> 00:20:48,745 birthday celebration in day. 568 00:20:48,745 --> 00:20:52,945 This is a day to consider all 569 00:20:53,650 --> 00:20:54,417 of our religions and here in 570 00:20:54,417 --> 00:20:54,985 San Diego and that all have a 571 00:20:54,985 --> 00:20:56,985 good standing Buddhist 572 00:20:59,890 --> 00:20:59,756 traditions have a good way to 573 00:20:59,756 --> 00:21:02,156 understand that concept and 574 00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:04,695 that all all religions can be 575 00:21:04,695 --> 00:21:05,462 decent and respectable. 576 00:21:05,462 --> 00:21:09,620 >> Good luck What we can work 577 00:21:09,433 --> 00:21:10,467 on in San Diego. 578 00:21:10,467 --> 00:21:10,901 I want to talk a lot more on 579 00:21:10,901 --> 00:21:11,668 this subject. 580 00:21:11,668 --> 00:21:15,272 I feel a lot of sorrow in 581 00:21:15,272 --> 00:21:15,939 what's happened and ways that 582 00:21:15,939 --> 00:21:16,306 we can come together as a 583 00:21:16,306 --> 00:21:17,400 community. 584 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Thank you for the words of a 585 00:21:21,278 --> 00:21:22,450 counselor present. 586 00:21:22,450 --> 00:21:22,646 Foster It's a time to really 587 00:21:22,646 --> 00:21:25,460 work together in our 588 00:21:28,485 --> 00:21:29,185 differences and find good 589 00:21:29,185 --> 00:21:29,786 results in our differences And 590 00:21:29,786 --> 00:21:30,521 I think we can do that. 591 00:21:30,521 --> 00:21:33,457 I think there's ways to do that 592 00:21:33,457 --> 00:21:34,324 in our efforts. 593 00:21:34,324 --> 00:21:37,324 >> There's two other items you 594 00:21:39,596 --> 00:21:42,596 have on s500 a Filipino 595 00:21:44,434 --> 00:21:45,102 American employee the city of 596 00:21:45,102 --> 00:21:47,102 San Diego Filipino-American 597 00:21:49,739 --> 00:21:50,474 Employee Association de I spoke 598 00:21:50,474 --> 00:21:54,740 yesterday I made I really tried 599 00:21:54,878 --> 00:21:55,645 hard to speak on issues 600 00:21:55,645 --> 00:21:59,245 yesterday and I was really it's 601 00:22:01,684 --> 00:22:02,386 not my intention to bring out 602 00:22:02,386 --> 00:22:06,586 the worst of ourselves if I am 603 00:22:07,558 --> 00:22:08,258 it is what the real purpose of 604 00:22:08,258 --> 00:22:08,959 work and how to bring out 605 00:22:08,959 --> 00:22:09,593 the best of ourselves and what 606 00:22:09,593 --> 00:22:13,630 we need to be looking for. 607 00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:13,764 I try to work in a way where 608 00:22:13,764 --> 00:22:14,431 conversations are not kind of 609 00:22:14,431 --> 00:22:14,798 the regular conversation you 610 00:22:14,798 --> 00:22:16,798 guys have. 611 00:22:17,801 --> 00:22:18,502 I feel that you have them 612 00:22:18,502 --> 00:22:19,202 personally and internally but 613 00:22:19,202 --> 00:22:21,602 they're not conversations that 614 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:24,775 are allowed openly and I hope 615 00:22:24,775 --> 00:22:25,442 when I do that it's with 616 00:22:25,442 --> 00:22:29,420 the intent to to offer fair, 617 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:30,814 decent conversation not to 618 00:22:30,814 --> 00:22:31,715 inflame and not to play gotcha. 619 00:22:31,715 --> 00:22:35,315 I really want to work towards 620 00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:36,820 constructive good answers in 621 00:22:36,820 --> 00:22:37,421 the future. 622 00:22:37,421 --> 00:22:40,421 >> So what the San Diego 623 00:22:41,358 --> 00:22:42,590 Filipino item again I hope you 624 00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:45,659 guys can consider what a pay 625 00:22:46,497 --> 00:22:47,131 cut to city workers can mean to 626 00:22:47,131 --> 00:22:47,865 the community I think they 627 00:22:47,865 --> 00:22:51,465 would be incredibly agree to do 628 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:53,537 and ways to find to to address 629 00:22:53,537 --> 00:22:56,537 you know morale issues that 630 00:22:56,874 --> 00:22:57,574 we're having as as the San 631 00:22:57,574 --> 00:23:00,574 Diego community and good luck 632 00:23:03,113 --> 00:23:03,847 in considering that concept and 633 00:23:03,847 --> 00:23:04,548 finally to the mentioned morale 634 00:23:04,548 --> 00:23:06,948 I mentioned Emergency Medical 635 00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:09,854 Services Week important things 636 00:23:09,854 --> 00:23:10,521 again, Andrea. 637 00:23:10,521 --> 00:23:13,521 I mean it's had difficulties 638 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:15,250 with emt and cpd. 639 00:23:15,250 --> 00:23:15,725 I hope this can be a time to 640 00:23:15,725 --> 00:23:18,125 really decently review best 641 00:23:20,397 --> 00:23:21,980 practices and discover together 642 00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:21,465 learn together you know their 643 00:23:21,465 --> 00:23:23,465 problems. 644 00:23:25,302 --> 00:23:25,803 We can correct our problems. 645 00:23:25,803 --> 00:23:26,270 >> Thank you. 646 00:23:26,270 --> 00:23:28,270 Thank you, Tony. 647 00:23:31,442 --> 00:23:32,343 If you can please unmute I can 648 00:23:32,343 --> 00:23:36,480 I mean for you and let me know 649 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,881 which item or items you wish to 650 00:23:36,881 --> 00:23:37,481 speak to. 651 00:23:37,481 --> 00:23:38,480 >> Hey, good morning. 652 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,448 Can you hear me? 653 00:23:42,185 --> 00:23:43,530 Yes, please proceed. 654 00:23:43,530 --> 00:23:43,921 >> Let me know which item or 655 00:23:43,921 --> 00:23:46,991 items I wish to speak to 656 00:23:46,991 --> 00:23:47,825 the declarations. 657 00:23:47,825 --> 00:23:48,225 >> The declaration is part of 658 00:23:48,225 --> 00:23:48,492 the consent. 659 00:23:48,492 --> 00:23:50,492 Yes. 660 00:23:52,963 --> 00:23:53,531 The item number. 661 00:23:53,531 --> 00:23:54,198 What was it? 662 00:23:54,198 --> 00:23:54,899 Which were the two that were 663 00:23:54,899 --> 00:23:55,400 excluded That can't be spoken 664 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,800 to you right now? 665 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Items 33 and 39 339 okay I will 666 00:24:05,642 --> 00:24:06,344 speak to item 31 please. 667 00:24:06,344 --> 00:24:06,744 Please proceed to You'll have 668 00:24:06,744 --> 00:24:08,744 one minute. 669 00:24:10,681 --> 00:24:11,415 Thank you. 670 00:24:11,415 --> 00:24:13,815 Hey, good morning, counsel. 671 00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:16,920 Just just wanted to say thank 672 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:17,888 you. 673 00:24:17,888 --> 00:24:21,959 >> I know it's going to be a 674 00:24:21,959 --> 00:24:22,627 long day to day and yeah, I 675 00:24:22,627 --> 00:24:23,261 wanted to call in to support 676 00:24:23,261 --> 00:24:25,661 what Blaire Beekman said. 677 00:24:27,298 --> 00:24:27,632 I agree with what he was 678 00:24:27,632 --> 00:24:28,332 saying. 679 00:24:28,332 --> 00:24:29,330 I'm not sure I don't have much 680 00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:32,330 to say about this proclamation 681 00:24:32,536 --> 00:24:36,736 so I just wanted to say good 682 00:24:37,542 --> 00:24:38,243 morning and wanted to say look 683 00:24:38,243 --> 00:24:38,676 for looking forward to today. 684 00:24:38,676 --> 00:24:39,420 >> Thank you. 685 00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:41,420 Thank you. 686 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:43,147 And our final speaker is 8700. 687 00:24:43,147 --> 00:24:43,781 The five minute timer has also 688 00:24:43,781 --> 00:24:46,181 concluded so no additional 689 00:24:48,286 --> 00:24:49,530 speakers will be taken 8700 If 690 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:52,657 you can please email and let me 691 00:24:52,657 --> 00:24:53,257 know which item or items you 692 00:24:53,257 --> 00:24:53,724 wish to speak to. 693 00:24:53,724 --> 00:24:54,692 Yes, thank you. 694 00:24:54,692 --> 00:24:58,292 City Clerk I will be speaking 695 00:24:58,563 --> 00:24:59,263 to all of them. 696 00:24:59,263 --> 00:25:01,663 >> Please have three minutes. 697 00:25:03,268 --> 00:25:03,935 Please proceed. 698 00:25:03,935 --> 00:25:04,469 Good morning everyone and my 699 00:25:04,469 --> 00:25:06,469 condolences to all. 700 00:25:08,106 --> 00:25:08,906 And the way I'm going to 701 00:25:08,906 --> 00:25:09,441 proceed with this I hope it 702 00:25:09,441 --> 00:25:10,275 helps a little bit. 703 00:25:10,275 --> 00:25:13,275 Please forgive me if I 704 00:25:13,945 --> 00:25:16,345 mispronounce anything and I 705 00:25:18,383 --> 00:25:19,820 won't say the numbers but you 706 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:19,584 know what they are National 707 00:25:19,584 --> 00:25:21,584 Public Works Week. 708 00:25:24,922 --> 00:25:28,522 Thank you for making this a 709 00:25:30,228 --> 00:25:34,428 better world for I hope I can 710 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:39,900 do this and just say thank you 711 00:25:40,205 --> 00:25:40,538 for making this a better world 712 00:25:40,538 --> 00:25:41,205 . 713 00:25:41,205 --> 00:25:44,205 Torrie Wilson Thank you for 714 00:25:44,509 --> 00:25:45,376 making this a better world 715 00:25:45,376 --> 00:25:48,376 Garden Catering Thank you for 716 00:25:51,149 --> 00:25:51,549 making this a better World 717 00:25:51,549 --> 00:25:53,549 County Day. 718 00:25:55,854 --> 00:25:56,287 Thank you for making this a 719 00:25:56,287 --> 00:25:56,987 better world. 720 00:25:56,987 --> 00:25:57,322 Emergency Medical services for 721 00:25:57,322 --> 00:25:59,322 inmates. 722 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:02,930 Thank you for making this a 723 00:26:02,930 --> 00:26:04,930 better world. 724 00:26:06,865 --> 00:26:07,665 Amy Taylor Martinez, thank you 725 00:26:07,665 --> 00:26:11,265 so much for making this a 726 00:26:11,903 --> 00:26:12,169 better world for Antibodies 727 00:26:12,169 --> 00:26:12,971 Day. 728 00:26:12,971 --> 00:26:16,571 Thank you for making this a 729 00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:18,875 better world. 730 00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:23,281 Filipino American employees 731 00:26:23,281 --> 00:26:23,715 thank you for making us a 732 00:26:23,715 --> 00:26:25,715 better world. 733 00:26:26,985 --> 00:26:30,585 To region three to Bueno Amino. 734 00:26:30,856 --> 00:26:31,623 Stay. 735 00:26:31,623 --> 00:26:32,570 Thank you for making this a 736 00:26:32,570 --> 00:26:34,570 better world. 737 00:26:37,262 --> 00:26:37,622 Billy Joel. 738 00:26:37,622 --> 00:26:39,622 Yeah. 739 00:26:41,166 --> 00:26:41,933 I'm not sure I got that right. 740 00:26:41,933 --> 00:26:42,366 Thank you for making this a 741 00:26:42,366 --> 00:26:44,366 better world. 742 00:26:46,471 --> 00:26:47,239 And to everybody else who works 743 00:26:47,239 --> 00:26:48,500 to make this a better world and 744 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,500 there's so many people in 745 00:26:51,877 --> 00:26:52,477 the world. 746 00:26:52,477 --> 00:26:53,345 Thank you so much. 747 00:26:53,345 --> 00:26:57,545 It's a difficult day in a way 748 00:26:57,849 --> 00:26:58,583 It was difficult yesterday and 749 00:26:58,583 --> 00:27:01,850 I just assemble and get ready. 750 00:27:01,850 --> 00:27:03,850 Thank you. 751 00:27:06,925 --> 00:27:07,274 >> Does that conclude your 752 00:27:07,274 --> 00:27:07,526 comment? 753 00:27:07,526 --> 00:27:07,893 Yes. 754 00:27:07,893 --> 00:27:08,260 I'm sorry. 755 00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:10,260 Thank you. 756 00:27:12,464 --> 00:27:13,164 That does include public 757 00:27:13,164 --> 00:27:13,598 comment on the proclamations. 758 00:27:13,598 --> 00:27:14,165 >> All right. 759 00:27:14,165 --> 00:27:16,565 Thank you, city clerk. 760 00:27:16,968 --> 00:27:17,703 And with that I'll turn it over 761 00:27:17,703 --> 00:27:18,369 to my council colleagues for 762 00:27:18,369 --> 00:27:19,370 any questions and comments. 763 00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:21,773 Entertain a motion and we'll 764 00:27:21,773 --> 00:27:22,107 start with council member 765 00:27:22,107 --> 00:27:22,541 Moreno. 766 00:27:22,541 --> 00:27:22,908 >> Wonderful. 767 00:27:22,908 --> 00:27:24,908 Thank you. 768 00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:26,545 I have comments on item number 769 00:27:26,545 --> 00:27:29,545 37 which is Amy Kremer Martinez 770 00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:33,815 And I would ask her to please 771 00:27:34,986 --> 00:27:37,986 come up to the podium. 772 00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:40,559 Thank you. 773 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:41,325 Come right here. 774 00:27:41,325 --> 00:27:43,725 In honor of teachers 775 00:27:45,763 --> 00:27:46,431 appreciation Week we recognize 776 00:27:46,431 --> 00:27:48,831 an educator whose leadership 777 00:27:50,202 --> 00:27:50,902 has transformed Southwest High 778 00:27:50,902 --> 00:27:51,603 School into a place where 779 00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:52,370 students feel seen, supported 780 00:27:52,370 --> 00:27:54,370 and inspired. 781 00:27:56,441 --> 00:27:57,176 Last year Southwest High School 782 00:27:57,176 --> 00:27:59,576 celebrated its 50th anniversary 783 00:28:00,512 --> 00:28:01,213 and Mosquera Martinez has shown 784 00:28:01,213 --> 00:28:03,613 unwavering commitment to young 785 00:28:05,818 --> 00:28:06,552 people in District eight 786 00:28:06,552 --> 00:28:07,219 ensuring that every student has 787 00:28:07,219 --> 00:28:09,619 access to opportunities that 788 00:28:10,823 --> 00:28:11,589 help them thrive. 789 00:28:11,589 --> 00:28:12,191 As a graduate of Bonita Vista 790 00:28:12,191 --> 00:28:12,523 High School Southwestern 791 00:28:12,523 --> 00:28:14,523 College. 792 00:28:16,161 --> 00:28:16,895 Cfa. 793 00:28:16,895 --> 00:28:17,529 Fullerton National University. 794 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,929 And Point Loma Nazarene 795 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,233 University MISS Martinez 796 00:28:22,233 --> 00:28:22,834 embodies the strength and 797 00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:25,834 promise of the South Bay 798 00:28:26,939 --> 00:28:27,805 Education community. 799 00:28:27,805 --> 00:28:30,205 Since 2011 MS. Claire Martinez 800 00:28:31,877 --> 00:28:32,511 has served the Sweetwater Union 801 00:28:32,511 --> 00:28:33,145 High School District as a 802 00:28:33,145 --> 00:28:35,145 teacher and administrator 803 00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:37,816 supporting her heart into 804 00:28:37,816 --> 00:28:38,484 the community that raised her 805 00:28:38,484 --> 00:28:40,484 through assemblies athletic 806 00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:43,550 support, visual and performing 807 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:43,455 arts programs and student 808 00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:45,455 engagement. 809 00:28:47,259 --> 00:28:47,893 MS.. 810 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:48,527 Martinez has strengthened 811 00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:51,527 campus pride and created a 812 00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:52,931 culture of belonging. 813 00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:55,331 MS. Claire Martinez Inclusive 814 00:28:56,936 --> 00:28:57,670 programing an equitable system 815 00:28:57,670 --> 00:28:58,370 ensures that every student from 816 00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:01,370 every background has a chance 817 00:29:02,107 --> 00:29:02,775 to participate lead and shine. 818 00:29:02,775 --> 00:29:05,175 She has forged meaningful, 819 00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:07,446 meaningful connections with 820 00:29:07,446 --> 00:29:09,846 families, staff and community 821 00:29:12,518 --> 00:29:13,252 organizations reminding us that 822 00:29:13,252 --> 00:29:13,685 schools thrive when communities 823 00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:15,685 come together. 824 00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:17,689 Now MS.. 825 00:29:17,689 --> 00:29:18,357 Clara martinez has attended 826 00:29:18,357 --> 00:29:21,357 National Night Out at Robert 827 00:29:21,961 --> 00:29:22,628 Edgar Park where Southwest high 828 00:29:22,628 --> 00:29:23,195 school students consistently 829 00:29:23,195 --> 00:29:25,595 showcase a variety of 830 00:29:26,565 --> 00:29:27,199 performances. 831 00:29:27,199 --> 00:29:27,900 The event is recognized as 832 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,300 the largest attended National 833 00:29:32,238 --> 00:29:32,671 Night Out celebration in San 834 00:29:32,671 --> 00:29:33,339 Diego County. 835 00:29:33,339 --> 00:29:36,339 Now as a first generation 836 00:29:37,476 --> 00:29:38,144 college student, MS. Claire 837 00:29:38,144 --> 00:29:38,711 Martinez has shown students 838 00:29:38,711 --> 00:29:41,111 what is possible when 839 00:29:42,810 --> 00:29:42,381 determination meets opportunity 840 00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:42,982 . 841 00:29:42,982 --> 00:29:43,549 Inspiring them to break 842 00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:45,949 barriers on their own. 843 00:29:47,419 --> 00:29:48,120 She is joined today with her 844 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,520 loving husband Nick Martinez, 845 00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:52,692 mother and father and also 846 00:29:52,692 --> 00:29:53,590 Southwest High School asb 847 00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:55,590 PRESIDENT. 848 00:29:57,663 --> 00:29:58,464 They matter but there are no 849 00:29:58,464 --> 00:30:01,464 future as be PRESIDENT Zoe 850 00:30:01,967 --> 00:30:04,967 Garcia and future sb Attorney 851 00:30:06,873 --> 00:30:07,440 General Admi Gonzalez. 852 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,840 I think yet another 853 00:30:12,177 --> 00:30:12,844 exemplification of how she 854 00:30:12,844 --> 00:30:13,546 brings and uplifts students. 855 00:30:13,546 --> 00:30:16,282 So MS. Claire Martinez you 856 00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:16,916 represent the very best of our 857 00:30:16,916 --> 00:30:17,616 educators those who change 858 00:30:17,616 --> 00:30:20,616 lives not with grand gestures 859 00:30:21,454 --> 00:30:22,120 but with daily acts of care, 860 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,120 advocacy and belief in their 861 00:30:26,659 --> 00:30:27,360 students those who show up with 862 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,600 heart, who lift students when 863 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,600 they doubt themselves and who 864 00:30:31,898 --> 00:30:32,599 quietly shape the future for 865 00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:33,533 one young person at a time. 866 00:30:33,533 --> 00:30:36,769 So for those reasons and many 867 00:30:36,769 --> 00:30:40,369 more the city of San Diego 868 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:41,741 proudly proclaims MAY 19th, 869 00:30:41,741 --> 00:30:42,800 2026 as Amy Quiere martinez 870 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,800 Day. 871 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:50,850 >> Thank you. 872 00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:53,850 >> I'm ceding her my time. 873 00:30:54,721 --> 00:30:55,188 Council PRESIDENT. 874 00:30:55,188 --> 00:30:55,922 >> Thank you. 875 00:30:55,922 --> 00:30:56,723 If that's okay I'd like to 876 00:30:56,723 --> 00:30:59,292 welcome my students to come 877 00:30:59,292 --> 00:30:59,993 over. 878 00:30:59,993 --> 00:31:02,993 They'd like to say something. 879 00:31:03,997 --> 00:31:04,664 I cannot do this work if it 880 00:31:04,664 --> 00:31:07,901 wasn't for the support of my 881 00:31:07,901 --> 00:31:08,201 family at home and my family at 882 00:31:08,201 --> 00:31:09,135 work. 883 00:31:09,135 --> 00:31:09,802 So I'd like for them to say a 884 00:31:09,802 --> 00:31:12,802 few words because this this 885 00:31:24,850 --> 00:31:27,850 really is because of them. 886 00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:31,570 >> Hello everyone. 887 00:31:31,570 --> 00:31:31,724 My name is Zoe Garcia. 888 00:31:31,724 --> 00:31:32,910 I currently serve as a 889 00:31:32,910 --> 00:31:34,910 Southwest. 890 00:31:35,327 --> 00:31:36,290 Hi attorney General and I was 891 00:31:36,290 --> 00:31:39,290 recently elected as the future 892 00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:39,765 as your PRESIDENT For the 2026 893 00:31:39,765 --> 00:31:40,600 2027 school year. 894 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,770 It is a privilege to be here 895 00:31:44,770 --> 00:31:45,504 today recognizing MISS Your 896 00:31:45,504 --> 00:31:46,139 Martinez for her dedication and 897 00:31:46,139 --> 00:31:49,139 hard work as the assistant 898 00:31:51,378 --> 00:31:51,978 principal student activities 899 00:31:51,978 --> 00:31:52,679 and our acp advisor MISS 900 00:31:52,679 --> 00:31:54,247 Martinez always goes above and 901 00:31:54,247 --> 00:31:54,614 beyond for our school and 902 00:31:54,614 --> 00:31:55,215 students. 903 00:31:55,215 --> 00:31:55,915 Since joining us b as a 904 00:31:55,915 --> 00:31:58,752 freshman she has been nothing 905 00:31:58,752 --> 00:31:59,319 but kind, supportive and 906 00:31:59,319 --> 00:31:59,920 encouraging throughout 907 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,920 the years She has become 908 00:32:03,723 --> 00:32:04,190 someone I look up to and turn 909 00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:04,891 to for guidance. 910 00:32:04,891 --> 00:32:05,659 Her passion for her work and 911 00:32:05,659 --> 00:32:08,161 the case she shows to every 912 00:32:08,161 --> 00:32:08,461 student truly makes her a role 913 00:32:08,461 --> 00:32:09,162 model. 914 00:32:09,162 --> 00:32:12,532 I can confidently say that she 915 00:32:12,532 --> 00:32:13,233 has helped shape me into 916 00:32:13,233 --> 00:32:13,901 the leader and person I am 917 00:32:13,901 --> 00:32:17,304 today and I will always be 918 00:32:17,304 --> 00:32:18,380 grateful for her support. 919 00:32:18,380 --> 00:32:18,571 MS. Martinez truly deserves 920 00:32:18,571 --> 00:32:20,571 this recognition for 921 00:32:21,875 --> 00:32:22,609 the positive impact she has 922 00:32:22,609 --> 00:32:23,276 made on so many lives. 923 00:32:23,276 --> 00:32:23,944 Congratulations MS. Martinez 924 00:32:23,944 --> 00:32:26,579 and thank you for everything 925 00:32:26,579 --> 00:32:27,460 you do and thank you all for 926 00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:29,460 your attention. 927 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:33,500 >> Thank you. 928 00:32:37,690 --> 00:32:39,690 >> Good morning everyone. 929 00:32:39,693 --> 00:32:40,360 I am the L.A. Create 50th proud 930 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:40,760 asu PRESIDENT At fault with 931 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,760 high school. 932 00:32:44,264 --> 00:32:44,965 Honestly being PRESIDENT I 933 00:32:44,965 --> 00:32:45,632 would have not gotten to that 934 00:32:45,632 --> 00:32:48,320 position without the support 935 00:32:49,503 --> 00:32:50,203 And MISS Martinez believing in 936 00:32:50,203 --> 00:32:50,971 me and encouraging me to take 937 00:32:50,971 --> 00:32:54,374 on new positions and new roles. 938 00:32:54,374 --> 00:32:55,108 Challenging myself on a daily 939 00:32:55,108 --> 00:32:58,108 basis because she saw potential 940 00:32:58,478 --> 00:32:59,412 I didn't see myself. 941 00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:03,612 I have I've had the honor to 942 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:04,584 work with her all my four years 943 00:33:04,584 --> 00:33:06,984 since I started in. 944 00:33:07,854 --> 00:33:08,321 It's been my freshman year to 945 00:33:08,321 --> 00:33:09,122 almost leaving. 946 00:33:09,122 --> 00:33:09,989 I'm going to MISS Her so much 947 00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:12,860 but I know she will continue to 948 00:33:12,860 --> 00:33:13,426 push me beyond graduating 949 00:33:13,426 --> 00:33:15,426 Southwest High School. 950 00:33:17,764 --> 00:33:18,398 She's been a role model and 951 00:33:18,398 --> 00:33:19,660 she's been one of the key 952 00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:22,660 people that will continue to 953 00:33:22,436 --> 00:33:25,436 motivate me and from winning 954 00:33:26,673 --> 00:33:27,340 the laurels for leaders and 955 00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:28,410 Community Service project I 956 00:33:28,410 --> 00:33:28,342 knew she was a big part of 957 00:33:28,342 --> 00:33:30,342 that. 958 00:33:32,779 --> 00:33:33,480 She made a huge impact in that 959 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,414 project and overall she's just 960 00:33:34,414 --> 00:33:37,251 been like a second one to me at 961 00:33:37,251 --> 00:33:37,951 school and now I can always run 962 00:33:37,951 --> 00:33:41,551 to her or tell her anything. 963 00:33:41,622 --> 00:33:42,389 Honestly. 964 00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:43,156 But she's been a great model, 965 00:33:43,156 --> 00:33:46,156 great role model And this 966 00:33:46,193 --> 00:33:48,593 recognition is beyond deserved. 967 00:33:55,569 --> 00:33:56,169 >> So thank you guys. 968 00:33:56,169 --> 00:33:56,837 >> Thank you. 969 00:33:56,837 --> 00:33:57,538 And without without Council 970 00:33:57,538 --> 00:34:00,374 PRESIDENT I'm happy to make a 971 00:34:00,374 --> 00:34:00,841 motion to move proclamations. 972 00:34:00,841 --> 00:34:01,240 >> Thank you. 973 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:01,875 Thank you. 974 00:34:01,875 --> 00:34:04,875 Council members We have a 975 00:34:07,147 --> 00:34:07,915 motion by Council Memorandum. 976 00:34:07,915 --> 00:34:08,482 >> We'll go next to 977 00:34:08,482 --> 00:34:10,482 Councilmember Foster. 978 00:34:12,190 --> 00:34:12,386 Yes, thank you, Council 979 00:34:12,386 --> 00:34:13,387 PRESIDENT. 980 00:34:13,387 --> 00:34:16,323 And I'm going to try to keep my 981 00:34:16,323 --> 00:34:18,323 comments brief. 982 00:34:21,228 --> 00:34:21,829 Just congratulations to all of 983 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:23,829 the organizations and 984 00:34:25,499 --> 00:34:26,100 individuals receiving 985 00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,100 the proclamation today. 986 00:34:31,104 --> 00:34:34,874 But I want to say a few words 987 00:34:34,874 --> 00:34:38,474 on item as 502 Billy Joe to 988 00:34:39,146 --> 00:34:42,746 Marcia Spears Day as we are 989 00:34:43,751 --> 00:34:44,840 here to celebrate Pastor Spears 990 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:44,918 . 991 00:34:44,918 --> 00:34:47,918 As we approach your 90th 992 00:34:48,455 --> 00:34:49,156 birthday on the 21st, it is 993 00:34:49,156 --> 00:34:52,156 truly a blessing to recognize 994 00:34:53,930 --> 00:34:54,610 and celebrate you today. 995 00:34:54,610 --> 00:34:57,661 Your life has been grounded in 996 00:34:58,499 --> 00:34:59,133 faith service, family and love 997 00:34:59,133 --> 00:35:02,133 for community and so many 998 00:35:03,136 --> 00:35:03,871 people across the district for 999 00:35:03,871 --> 00:35:07,471 have been touched by your care, 1000 00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:08,709 leadership and generosity over 1001 00:35:08,709 --> 00:35:09,343 the years whether through 1002 00:35:09,343 --> 00:35:11,343 ministry feeding families, 1003 00:35:13,347 --> 00:35:14,480 mentoring young people or 1004 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,348 simply showing up for those in 1005 00:35:14,348 --> 00:35:16,348 need. 1006 00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:18,786 You have poured into this 1007 00:35:18,786 --> 00:35:21,786 community for decades and I 1008 00:35:21,989 --> 00:35:22,790 have to say 90 years young and 1009 00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:25,790 still going strong is something 1010 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,327 we can all aspire to. 1011 00:35:27,327 --> 00:35:30,927 On behalf of District four in 1012 00:35:31,298 --> 00:35:31,999 the city of San Diego. 1013 00:35:31,999 --> 00:35:34,999 Happy early birthday and thank 1014 00:35:35,936 --> 00:35:36,804 you Thank you for all that you 1015 00:35:36,804 --> 00:35:37,505 do and all that you have given 1016 00:35:37,505 --> 00:35:40,708 not only to District four but 1017 00:35:40,708 --> 00:35:41,842 to the city of San Diego. 1018 00:35:41,842 --> 00:35:45,442 >> Thank you so much And yes 1019 00:35:48,182 --> 00:35:52,382 indeed I just want to read one 1020 00:35:53,287 --> 00:35:56,287 line from the proclamation as 1021 00:35:57,891 --> 00:35:58,727 we are in this time. 1022 00:35:58,727 --> 00:36:02,327 I just think for me personally 1023 00:36:02,730 --> 00:36:06,330 family is just so, so important 1024 00:36:07,668 --> 00:36:08,536 and hidden in the proclamation 1025 00:36:08,536 --> 00:36:12,608 It reads As a devoted mother of 1026 00:36:12,608 --> 00:36:15,800 seven grandmother of 19 and 1027 00:36:16,277 --> 00:36:18,677 great grandmother of 26 Pastor 1028 00:36:20,715 --> 00:36:21,415 Spears has built a lasting 1029 00:36:21,415 --> 00:36:23,815 legacy grounded in love 1030 00:36:25,653 --> 00:36:27,653 guidance and generational 1031 00:36:31,325 --> 00:36:34,925 impact that truly is a blessing 1032 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:37,310 and GOD is good and thank you. 1033 00:36:37,310 --> 00:36:37,765 >> Thank you for everything 1034 00:36:37,765 --> 00:36:40,601 that you have done for the city 1035 00:36:40,601 --> 00:36:42,601 of San Diego. 1036 00:36:45,406 --> 00:36:46,207 And with that council PRESIDENT 1037 00:36:46,207 --> 00:36:46,641 I do have some time remaining 1038 00:36:46,641 --> 00:36:48,641 on the lights. 1039 00:36:48,943 --> 00:36:49,644 >> I will second 1040 00:36:49,644 --> 00:36:50,445 the proclamations but I would 1041 00:36:50,445 --> 00:36:54,480 like to offer any time to any 1042 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,116 other family member that would 1043 00:36:55,116 --> 00:36:59,916 like to come up and say a few 1044 00:37:07,228 --> 00:37:09,228 words please. 1045 00:37:13,701 --> 00:37:14,302 You. 1046 00:37:14,302 --> 00:37:16,302 I really do. 1047 00:37:27,916 --> 00:37:32,116 And then why don't Oh, we want 1048 00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:37,225 to you know I want to thank you 1049 00:37:37,225 --> 00:37:41,963 for all goes to GOD and of San 1050 00:37:41,963 --> 00:37:42,831 Diego I don't mean they helped 1051 00:37:42,831 --> 00:37:43,498 me all the way up to two 1052 00:37:43,498 --> 00:37:45,898 different programs that were 1053 00:37:46,534 --> 00:37:48,534 gifted to you. 1054 00:37:51,439 --> 00:37:55,639 I really thank GOD and I pray 1055 00:37:56,444 --> 00:37:57,312 full you politician after I 1056 00:37:57,312 --> 00:38:01,512 thank you all for what you all 1057 00:38:04,952 --> 00:38:05,687 have done and say Oh I am just 1058 00:38:05,687 --> 00:38:09,287 so grateful that the Lord bless 1059 00:38:10,358 --> 00:38:10,925 one of my children's pastor way 1060 00:38:10,925 --> 00:38:13,325 about five years ago. 1061 00:38:14,896 --> 00:38:15,664 GOD's been good to me, be good 1062 00:38:15,664 --> 00:38:16,298 to my children and I just thank 1063 00:38:16,298 --> 00:38:19,298 GOD for the youth program. 1064 00:38:20,769 --> 00:38:21,690 Everything helped me and I'm in 1065 00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:21,870 tears. 1066 00:38:21,870 --> 00:38:24,606 I thought about how I had put 1067 00:38:24,606 --> 00:38:25,507 their age up this was they 1068 00:38:25,507 --> 00:38:28,507 supposed to be 50 Their youth 1069 00:38:29,177 --> 00:38:32,777 program brought a lot of help 1070 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:33,582 to this city in San Diego in 1071 00:38:33,582 --> 00:38:34,316 the southeast area. 1072 00:38:34,316 --> 00:38:38,453 I wish they would get it back. 1073 00:38:38,453 --> 00:38:39,154 We would have so many people on 1074 00:38:39,154 --> 00:38:42,754 the street, young people if we 1075 00:38:42,991 --> 00:38:43,959 could get that program back So 1076 00:38:43,959 --> 00:38:44,760 I don't know if it can be done 1077 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,560 but I thank GOD But I you can 1078 00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:51,300 do it if you put your trust in 1079 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:52,734 GOD sometime I feel that they 1080 00:38:52,734 --> 00:38:53,402 had it I do it Lord seven years 1081 00:38:53,402 --> 00:38:54,690 and not all the way up I 1082 00:38:54,690 --> 00:38:56,938 received about six months I 1083 00:38:56,938 --> 00:38:57,806 sent the checks back to them 1084 00:38:57,806 --> 00:38:58,507 and told them I would do for 1085 00:38:58,507 --> 00:39:01,909 myself And I thank GOD for 1086 00:39:01,909 --> 00:39:02,677 the city of San Diego because 1087 00:39:02,677 --> 00:39:05,447 you all have truly been good to 1088 00:39:05,447 --> 00:39:06,114 my family and my children's. 1089 00:39:06,114 --> 00:39:08,514 >> Thank you so much. 1090 00:39:10,919 --> 00:39:13,319 Union and thank you. 1091 00:39:15,524 --> 00:39:16,391 Thank you so much and MAY GOD 1092 00:39:16,391 --> 00:39:19,895 continue to bless you with his 1093 00:39:19,895 --> 00:39:20,295 love, with his grace and with 1094 00:39:20,295 --> 00:39:21,630 good health. 1095 00:39:21,630 --> 00:39:24,630 Thank you Counsel Present That 1096 00:39:25,233 --> 00:39:25,600 concludes my comments. 1097 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,100 All right. 1098 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:26,868 Thank you. 1099 00:39:26,868 --> 00:39:27,536 So we have a motion by council 1100 00:39:27,536 --> 00:39:29,170 member Moreno, the second by 1101 00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:29,904 Councilmember Foster to move 1102 00:39:29,904 --> 00:39:30,538 The proclamations will go next 1103 00:39:30,538 --> 00:39:32,938 to council member Campbell 1104 00:39:34,543 --> 00:39:35,244 Thank you council PRESIDENT And 1105 00:39:35,244 --> 00:39:37,644 thank you and congratulations 1106 00:39:39,314 --> 00:39:39,948 to everyone receiving 1107 00:39:39,948 --> 00:39:42,348 proclamations today I will 1108 00:39:44,553 --> 00:39:47,553 speak on three very briefly 32 1109 00:39:48,223 --> 00:39:48,957 3436 and I'd like to start on 1110 00:39:48,957 --> 00:39:49,690 behalf of my colleague council 1111 00:39:49,690 --> 00:39:52,690 member Von Wilpert who couldn't 1112 00:39:53,395 --> 00:39:57,595 be here today but who like to 1113 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,800 give a proclamation in honor of 1114 00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:03,138 our Teatro Catering Company. 1115 00:40:03,138 --> 00:40:03,839 She asked me to share her 1116 00:40:03,839 --> 00:40:05,839 congratulations on this 1117 00:40:07,876 --> 00:40:09,876 proclamation Recognizing Auntie 1118 00:40:11,113 --> 00:40:11,780 Arturo Catering Day for more 1119 00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:12,581 than two decades Arteta has 1120 00:40:12,581 --> 00:40:15,818 been an important part of San 1121 00:40:15,818 --> 00:40:16,518 Diego's small business 1122 00:40:16,518 --> 00:40:17,251 community and a place that has 1123 00:40:17,251 --> 00:40:19,651 brought people together through 1124 00:40:22,191 --> 00:40:22,891 great food. 1125 00:40:22,891 --> 00:40:23,725 Councilmember Von Wolford has 1126 00:40:23,725 --> 00:40:25,727 been at lta through many times 1127 00:40:25,727 --> 00:40:26,428 over the years and wanted to 1128 00:40:26,428 --> 00:40:27,162 share that The food is always 1129 00:40:27,162 --> 00:40:29,562 incredible especially the baked 1130 00:40:30,399 --> 00:40:31,167 goods. 1131 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:31,901 Auntie Arturo has created a 1132 00:40:31,901 --> 00:40:35,400 welcoming space in the heart of 1133 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:35,704 downtown in San Diego where 1134 00:40:35,704 --> 00:40:38,704 people can enjoy quality food 1135 00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:41,100 and European inspired cuisine. 1136 00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:41,677 Nancy Daniels leadership and 1137 00:40:41,677 --> 00:40:44,770 commitment to the community 1138 00:40:45,247 --> 00:40:46,115 have helped make our Teatro 1139 00:40:46,115 --> 00:40:49,351 such a long time Local favorite 1140 00:40:49,351 --> 00:40:49,952 Congratulations on 22 years of 1141 00:40:49,952 --> 00:40:52,952 service to the San Diego 1142 00:40:54,590 --> 00:40:55,324 community and best wishes for 1143 00:40:55,324 --> 00:40:57,724 continued for continued success 1144 00:40:59,527 --> 00:41:00,196 in the many years ahead And I 1145 00:41:00,196 --> 00:41:03,196 believe that they Would you 1146 00:41:04,166 --> 00:41:05,133 please wave There you are. 1147 00:41:05,133 --> 00:41:08,733 >> Yes, I knew you were here. 1148 00:41:13,575 --> 00:41:14,276 Thank you And thank you on 1149 00:41:14,276 --> 00:41:17,276 behalf of Council Member one 1150 00:41:17,947 --> 00:41:18,748 Open And I would also like to 1151 00:41:18,748 --> 00:41:19,448 make some remarks today for DR. 1152 00:41:19,448 --> 00:41:23,480 Troy Wilson who I believe MAY 1153 00:41:23,218 --> 00:41:23,552 also be here DR. Wilson or his 1154 00:41:23,552 --> 00:41:25,552 family. 1155 00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:30,423 DR. Wilson received the 2026 1156 00:41:32,294 --> 00:41:32,862 Dwayne Roth Achievement Award 1157 00:41:32,862 --> 00:41:33,462 for his leadership in 1158 00:41:33,462 --> 00:41:35,462 developing developing a 1159 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:38,300 medication a new medication to 1160 00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:39,100 treat cancer, his 1161 00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:39,602 groundbreaking work to advance 1162 00:41:39,602 --> 00:41:42,200 the treatment of certain 1163 00:41:43,390 --> 00:41:43,740 aggressive types of leukemia 1164 00:41:43,740 --> 00:41:47,340 will change the lives of many 1165 00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:48,177 patients for years to come and 1166 00:41:48,177 --> 00:41:48,511 give them many years of good 1167 00:41:48,511 --> 00:41:50,511 living. 1168 00:41:51,714 --> 00:41:52,315 As a family physician I can 1169 00:41:52,315 --> 00:41:53,820 tell you firsthand how 1170 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:56,820 important it is to constantly 1171 00:41:56,819 --> 00:41:57,652 be developing new innovative 1172 00:41:57,652 --> 00:42:01,252 treatments so that we can help 1173 00:42:01,890 --> 00:42:02,258 improve the lives of our 1174 00:42:02,258 --> 00:42:02,892 patients. 1175 00:42:02,892 --> 00:42:05,292 So congratulations to DR. 1176 00:42:06,696 --> 00:42:07,563 Wilson on receiving this award 1177 00:42:07,563 --> 00:42:11,600 and I thank him for all his 1178 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,301 Richard's research and 1179 00:42:12,301 --> 00:42:12,803 contributions to the field of 1180 00:42:12,803 --> 00:42:14,803 cancer treatment. 1181 00:42:16,839 --> 00:42:17,473 My last remarks will be for 1182 00:42:17,473 --> 00:42:19,473 item 36 Emergency Medical 1183 00:42:21,511 --> 00:42:22,278 Services Week proc. 1184 00:42:22,278 --> 00:42:25,878 I want to thank the emerging 1185 00:42:26,249 --> 00:42:28,649 Emergency Medical Services for 1186 00:42:31,454 --> 00:42:32,121 all that they do and say how 1187 00:42:32,121 --> 00:42:32,722 much I appreciate this work 1188 00:42:32,722 --> 00:42:35,122 which is observed across 1189 00:42:36,125 --> 00:42:36,793 America to honor our first 1190 00:42:36,793 --> 00:42:39,193 responders and our emergency 1191 00:42:40,596 --> 00:42:41,230 medicine providers. 1192 00:42:41,230 --> 00:42:43,230 Emergency medical service 1193 00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:45,702 providers are EMTs, paramedics 1194 00:42:45,702 --> 00:42:46,369 ,also firefighters, 1195 00:42:46,369 --> 00:42:48,369 dispatchers, lifeguards and 1196 00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:51,700 police department personnel. 1197 00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:51,708 First responders go through 1198 00:42:51,708 --> 00:42:55,308 many hours of training so they 1199 00:42:55,378 --> 00:42:55,945 can administer care to 1200 00:42:55,945 --> 00:42:56,612 residents in emergency 1201 00:42:56,612 --> 00:42:59,120 situations which often makes 1202 00:43:00,516 --> 00:43:00,817 the difference between life and 1203 00:43:00,817 --> 00:43:01,517 death. 1204 00:43:01,517 --> 00:43:02,218 And I want to thank our 1205 00:43:02,218 --> 00:43:04,618 wonderful first responders for 1206 00:43:05,422 --> 00:43:06,122 all that they do to keep San 1207 00:43:06,122 --> 00:43:09,122 Diegans safe every single day. 1208 00:43:10,259 --> 00:43:10,627 And thank you, council 1209 00:43:10,627 --> 00:43:11,600 PRESIDENT. 1210 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:11,694 >> All right. 1211 00:43:11,694 --> 00:43:14,940 Thank you, Council member 1212 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:19,769 Campbell Go and council member 1213 00:43:19,769 --> 00:43:20,403 whispered Thank you very much 1214 00:43:20,403 --> 00:43:22,803 Council PRESIDENT So very 1215 00:43:24,407 --> 00:43:24,974 wonderful proclamation today 1216 00:43:24,974 --> 00:43:25,675 and organizations and 1217 00:43:25,675 --> 00:43:27,675 individuals being recognized. 1218 00:43:28,911 --> 00:43:29,779 Congratulations to everybody 1219 00:43:29,779 --> 00:43:33,379 being honored I have Cubbage in 1220 00:43:33,650 --> 00:43:34,350 relation to sub including sub 1221 00:43:34,350 --> 00:43:36,750 specifically district three it 1222 00:43:38,954 --> 00:43:39,556 is my order to break forward a 1223 00:43:39,556 --> 00:43:40,123 proclamation recognizing 1224 00:43:40,123 --> 00:43:43,123 the sea fog temple in 1225 00:43:43,393 --> 00:43:44,930 University Heights and 1226 00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:44,493 celebrating Buddha's birthday 1227 00:43:44,493 --> 00:43:46,493 on MAY 24th. 1228 00:43:48,631 --> 00:43:49,299 This is at important cultural 1229 00:43:49,299 --> 00:43:49,966 and religious observance for 1230 00:43:49,966 --> 00:43:52,966 many members of San Diego's 1231 00:43:53,102 --> 00:43:53,803 Buddhist community and I want 1232 00:43:53,803 --> 00:43:54,437 to thank the Chief Temple for 1233 00:43:54,437 --> 00:43:54,971 the role that it plays in 1234 00:43:54,971 --> 00:43:56,971 fostering compassion 1235 00:43:58,700 --> 00:43:58,808 mindfulness service and 1236 00:43:58,808 --> 00:44:01,208 community connection here in 1237 00:44:01,644 --> 00:44:02,212 District three and around 1238 00:44:02,212 --> 00:44:03,212 the city of San Diego. 1239 00:44:03,212 --> 00:44:07,830 I would also like to extend a 1240 00:44:07,830 --> 00:44:07,785 special thank you to 1241 00:44:07,785 --> 00:44:08,418 Superintendent Be outside for 1242 00:44:08,418 --> 00:44:10,720 being here with us today. 1243 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:11,554 I would like to welcome 1244 00:44:11,554 --> 00:44:15,154 the superintendent up to say a 1245 00:44:20,664 --> 00:44:22,664 few words. 1246 00:44:25,735 --> 00:44:26,436 Good morning Council PRESIDENT 1247 00:44:26,436 --> 00:44:28,836 And Honorable Council members 1248 00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:31,741 on behalf of Shivani Temple and 1249 00:44:31,741 --> 00:44:32,475 the Greater Buddhist Community 1250 00:44:32,475 --> 00:44:36,450 of San Diego we sincerely thank 1251 00:44:36,450 --> 00:44:36,480 the City of San Diego for this 1252 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,800 proclamation. 1253 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,480 Recognizing MAY 24th as 1254 00:44:40,830 --> 00:44:40,649 the Buddha's birthday 1255 00:44:40,649 --> 00:44:41,250 celebration day This 1256 00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:43,250 recognition carries deep 1257 00:44:45,789 --> 00:44:46,356 meaning for us because Buddha 1258 00:44:46,356 --> 00:44:48,756 spread they also known 1259 00:44:50,393 --> 00:44:50,994 internationally as we thank is 1260 00:44:50,994 --> 00:44:53,394 a celebration shared by 1261 00:44:54,564 --> 00:44:54,864 Buddhists throughout the world 1262 00:44:54,864 --> 00:44:55,531 . 1263 00:44:55,531 --> 00:44:57,931 In 1999 the United Nations 1264 00:44:59,336 --> 00:45:00,300 officially recognized Vesak as 1265 00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:02,300 an international observation 1266 00:45:04,274 --> 00:45:04,941 acknowledging Buddha's message 1267 00:45:04,941 --> 00:45:07,341 of peace, compassion, wisdom 1268 00:45:09,580 --> 00:45:10,347 and harmony for humanity. 1269 00:45:10,347 --> 00:45:13,947 More than seven decades ago our 1270 00:45:14,218 --> 00:45:14,951 founder Durban Master Xing Yang 1271 00:45:14,951 --> 00:45:17,351 began promoting public Buddha's 1272 00:45:19,356 --> 00:45:19,990 birthday celebrations across 1273 00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:22,390 the communities in Taiwan. 1274 00:45:23,827 --> 00:45:24,328 He believed that true kindness, 1275 00:45:24,328 --> 00:45:25,620 mutual respect and 1276 00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:27,462 understanding the society could 1277 00:45:28,999 --> 00:45:29,400 become more peaceful and 1278 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,400 harmonious. 1279 00:45:33,804 --> 00:45:34,538 Today that message fills 1280 00:45:34,538 --> 00:45:35,272 especially important as the sad 1281 00:45:35,272 --> 00:45:37,672 happening affecting the Islamic 1282 00:45:39,276 --> 00:45:39,943 center of San Diego Yesterday 1283 00:45:39,943 --> 00:45:42,943 we are reminded that our 1284 00:45:43,813 --> 00:45:44,381 communities must continue 1285 00:45:44,381 --> 00:45:45,140 standing together with 1286 00:45:45,140 --> 00:45:47,140 compassion, friendship and 1287 00:45:48,685 --> 00:45:49,452 mutual respect. 1288 00:45:49,452 --> 00:45:52,452 Moments like this remind us 1289 00:45:53,424 --> 00:45:54,124 that regardless of our 1290 00:45:54,124 --> 00:45:56,524 different faith or backgrounds 1291 00:45:57,828 --> 00:45:58,328 we are all interconnected as 1292 00:45:58,328 --> 00:45:59,960 one big family. 1293 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:02,960 This proclamation is not only 1294 00:46:02,766 --> 00:46:03,567 an honor for Shifang Temple it 1295 00:46:03,567 --> 00:46:06,567 is also a recognition of 1296 00:46:07,710 --> 00:46:07,771 contributions of the entire 1297 00:46:07,771 --> 00:46:10,771 Buddhist community and all of 1298 00:46:11,975 --> 00:46:12,676 those who work together to 1299 00:46:12,676 --> 00:46:13,277 foster compassion, mindfulness 1300 00:46:13,277 --> 00:46:16,277 service and peace in our 1301 00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:17,848 society. 1302 00:46:17,848 --> 00:46:18,449 >> Buddha's birthday is truly a 1303 00:46:18,449 --> 00:46:20,449 celebration for everyone 1304 00:46:22,486 --> 00:46:23,870 regardless of background or 1305 00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:25,870 faith tradition because 1306 00:46:26,957 --> 00:46:27,624 the values we celebrate are 1307 00:46:27,624 --> 00:46:29,624 universal peace, gratitude, 1308 00:46:32,896 --> 00:46:33,797 compassion and a consistence. 1309 00:46:33,797 --> 00:46:37,301 We will only invite everyone to 1310 00:46:37,301 --> 00:46:38,350 join us on MAY 24th Buddha's 1311 00:46:38,350 --> 00:46:41,350 Birthday and Family Festival as 1312 00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:42,406 we celebrate together in a 1313 00:46:42,406 --> 00:46:42,806 spirit of harmony and 1314 00:46:42,806 --> 00:46:44,806 friendship. 1315 00:46:46,911 --> 00:46:47,677 Thank you Superintendent. 1316 00:46:47,677 --> 00:46:50,677 >> Thank you for those words. 1317 00:46:51,820 --> 00:46:53,820 Very well said. 1318 00:46:56,519 --> 00:46:57,221 >> Today I am also pleased to 1319 00:46:57,221 --> 00:46:57,788 join my colleagues in ordering 1320 00:46:57,788 --> 00:46:59,788 the highly recognized 1321 00:47:01,858 --> 00:47:02,560 restaurant Kelly and proclaim 1322 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,127 JUNE 4th as Kelly Day in 1323 00:47:03,127 --> 00:47:06,127 the city of San Diego. 1324 00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:07,765 Over the past five years chef 1325 00:47:07,765 --> 00:47:10,333 Travis Ricard and Kelly have 1326 00:47:10,333 --> 00:47:11,680 helped to establish say, Diego 1327 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:11,801 is a nationally recognized 1328 00:47:11,801 --> 00:47:14,201 culinary destination Through an 1329 00:47:15,606 --> 00:47:16,273 extraordinary commitment to 1330 00:47:16,273 --> 00:47:16,674 hospitality, creativity and 1331 00:47:16,674 --> 00:47:17,374 excellence. 1332 00:47:17,374 --> 00:47:19,774 Beyond the restaurant itself, 1333 00:47:20,444 --> 00:47:21,145 Kelly has made a meaningful 1334 00:47:21,145 --> 00:47:21,879 impact on our local community 1335 00:47:21,879 --> 00:47:24,879 by supporting local farmers and 1336 00:47:25,483 --> 00:47:26,830 fishers and producers 1337 00:47:26,830 --> 00:47:26,783 contributing to the East 1338 00:47:26,783 --> 00:47:27,485 Village economy and helping to 1339 00:47:27,485 --> 00:47:30,485 better the next generation of 1340 00:47:30,755 --> 00:47:31,189 hospitality professionals here 1341 00:47:31,189 --> 00:47:31,956 in San Diego. 1342 00:47:31,956 --> 00:47:32,656 And I also want to recognize 1343 00:47:32,656 --> 00:47:35,560 the restaurant's commitment to 1344 00:47:35,192 --> 00:47:35,860 giving back including its 1345 00:47:35,860 --> 00:47:36,160 partnership with feeding say 1346 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,160 Diego. 1347 00:47:40,131 --> 00:47:40,765 JUNE 4th also carries a deep 1348 00:47:40,765 --> 00:47:41,432 personal significance for 1349 00:47:41,432 --> 00:47:44,468 Travis and his family as it 1350 00:47:44,468 --> 00:47:44,869 honors the life and memory of 1351 00:47:44,869 --> 00:47:45,535 his brother. 1352 00:47:45,535 --> 00:47:48,535 I think it is particularly 1353 00:47:49,973 --> 00:47:50,608 meaningful that they have 1354 00:47:50,608 --> 00:47:51,309 chosen to transform a day 1355 00:47:51,309 --> 00:47:54,345 rooted loss in the world that 1356 00:47:54,345 --> 00:47:54,912 is centered on generosity and 1357 00:47:54,912 --> 00:47:55,280 purpose of family and 1358 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,120 community. 1359 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,783 And I would like to thank Chef 1360 00:47:58,783 --> 00:47:59,483 Swicord at Barnes Ricard, 1361 00:47:59,483 --> 00:48:00,184 the owners of Kelly and their 1362 00:48:00,184 --> 00:48:03,184 staff for everything that they 1363 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:04,854 have contributed to San Diego. 1364 00:48:04,854 --> 00:48:05,556 And I would like to invite Mia 1365 00:48:05,556 --> 00:48:06,690 and Travis to come forward at 1366 00:48:06,690 --> 00:48:10,890 this time and share a few words 1367 00:48:20,872 --> 00:48:21,739 with us. 1368 00:48:21,739 --> 00:48:22,340 >> Thank you so much for this 1369 00:48:22,340 --> 00:48:24,340 recognition and this 1370 00:48:25,442 --> 00:48:26,310 proclamation. 1371 00:48:26,310 --> 00:48:30,510 As a born and raised San Diego 1372 00:48:30,848 --> 00:48:31,716 kid, it's a lot for me to stand 1373 00:48:31,716 --> 00:48:35,219 up here today and feel this 1374 00:48:35,219 --> 00:48:35,986 emotion. 1375 00:48:35,986 --> 00:48:36,688 But I traveled all over 1376 00:48:36,688 --> 00:48:39,790 the world cooking to learn how 1377 00:48:39,790 --> 00:48:40,391 to be the very best chef I can 1378 00:48:40,391 --> 00:48:41,250 be and be the best 1379 00:48:41,250 --> 00:48:41,826 restauranteur I could be. 1380 00:48:41,826 --> 00:48:45,630 And when I moved home after 1381 00:48:45,630 --> 00:48:45,730 doing that I really felt a 1382 00:48:45,730 --> 00:48:48,130 strong responsibility to be 1383 00:48:49,332 --> 00:48:50,168 more than a chef and more than 1384 00:48:50,168 --> 00:48:50,735 a restauranteur and have a true 1385 00:48:50,735 --> 00:48:53,135 impact on my hometown. 1386 00:48:54,872 --> 00:48:55,673 And I think that outside of 1387 00:48:55,673 --> 00:48:58,673 having just a great restaurant 1388 00:49:00,110 --> 00:49:04,182 it's been a true honor to have 1389 00:49:04,182 --> 00:49:07,182 that ability and to really 1390 00:49:09,254 --> 00:49:09,821 focus our energy and on giving 1391 00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:10,521 back to the community. 1392 00:49:10,521 --> 00:49:13,521 Just recently we've been able 1393 00:49:14,425 --> 00:49:15,126 to open up a school pantry in 1394 00:49:15,126 --> 00:49:15,426 our in our neighborhood in Bio 1395 00:49:15,426 --> 00:49:17,426 Logan. 1396 00:49:18,796 --> 00:49:19,530 And I can't tell you a more 1397 00:49:19,530 --> 00:49:22,530 meaningful thing I've ever done 1398 00:49:23,670 --> 00:49:23,734 in my life So to get this 1399 00:49:23,734 --> 00:49:24,402 recognition today it means a 1400 00:49:24,402 --> 00:49:24,702 lot to us And thank you so 1401 00:49:24,702 --> 00:49:26,702 much. 1402 00:49:28,106 --> 00:49:28,506 >> Thank you very much, Travis. 1403 00:49:28,506 --> 00:49:29,106 Thank you. 1404 00:49:29,106 --> 00:49:29,841 Be a congratulations. 1405 00:49:29,841 --> 00:49:30,175 Thank you for being here this 1406 00:49:30,175 --> 00:49:32,175 morning. 1407 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,880 Thank you. 1408 00:49:40,510 --> 00:49:40,752 >> I am also pleased to joined 1409 00:49:40,752 --> 00:49:41,486 by colleague culture Barbara 1410 00:49:41,486 --> 00:49:41,820 Campbell and Councilmember Bart 1411 00:49:41,820 --> 00:49:43,820 Wilpert. 1412 00:49:44,489 --> 00:49:45,189 It recognizes the El Teatro 1413 00:49:45,189 --> 00:49:48,789 Catering As you heard for over 1414 00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:49,627 22 years it has been a staple 1415 00:49:49,627 --> 00:49:50,361 of our civic center providing 1416 00:49:50,361 --> 00:49:52,761 city employees and theatergoers 1417 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:54,800 and visitors with great service 1418 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:55,300 and a wide variety of tasty 1419 00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:57,300 foods and drinks. 1420 00:49:59,471 --> 00:50:00,138 So congratulations to El 1421 00:50:00,138 --> 00:50:02,538 Cerrito and 22 years as 1422 00:50:04,209 --> 00:50:04,876 Councilmember Kimball pointed 1423 00:50:04,876 --> 00:50:05,677 out, this is also Emergency 1424 00:50:05,677 --> 00:50:09,113 Medical Services Week and I am 1425 00:50:09,113 --> 00:50:09,647 delighted to join my colleagues 1426 00:50:09,647 --> 00:50:10,315 in bringing forward 1427 00:50:10,315 --> 00:50:12,315 the proclamation recognizing 1428 00:50:13,151 --> 00:50:13,785 ems Week. 1429 00:50:13,785 --> 00:50:14,352 Emergency responders have 1430 00:50:14,352 --> 00:50:14,720 incredible courage and 1431 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:16,720 strength. 1432 00:50:18,590 --> 00:50:19,900 They are there for every member 1433 00:50:19,900 --> 00:50:19,791 of our community. 1434 00:50:19,791 --> 00:50:22,994 But the call comes in for help 1435 00:50:22,994 --> 00:50:23,762 no matter the circumstances 1436 00:50:23,762 --> 00:50:24,362 They are a lifeline for people 1437 00:50:24,362 --> 00:50:24,895 facing life threatening 1438 00:50:24,895 --> 00:50:26,895 injuries or illness. 1439 00:50:27,799 --> 00:50:28,433 Their ability to quickly 1440 00:50:28,433 --> 00:50:29,134 perform their duties could 1441 00:50:29,134 --> 00:50:29,868 absolutely be the difference. 1442 00:50:29,868 --> 00:50:32,604 As we all know between life and 1443 00:50:32,604 --> 00:50:33,471 death. 1444 00:50:33,471 --> 00:50:34,205 I'd like to recognize all of 1445 00:50:34,205 --> 00:50:34,906 our emergency responders across 1446 00:50:34,906 --> 00:50:37,642 our city for their outstanding 1447 00:50:37,642 --> 00:50:38,343 work to save countless lives 1448 00:50:38,343 --> 00:50:40,743 many times putting themselves 1449 00:50:42,447 --> 00:50:43,214 in the way of danger. 1450 00:50:43,214 --> 00:50:43,915 And I would like to invite 1451 00:50:43,915 --> 00:50:46,315 first responder Carlos Valdes. 1452 00:50:47,850 --> 00:50:51,285 Acosta to come up at this time 1453 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:01,900 and please say a few words. 1454 00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:02,601 >> Good morning City Council. 1455 00:51:02,601 --> 00:51:03,268 On behalf of American Medical 1456 00:51:03,268 --> 00:51:05,668 Response, I'm truly grateful 1457 00:51:07,472 --> 00:51:08,600 for receiving this and a very 1458 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:08,773 knowledge ems week. 1459 00:51:08,773 --> 00:51:13,573 I take a second to have my team 1460 00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:18,583 stand up for a second. 1461 00:51:18,583 --> 00:51:22,783 >> I want to take a moment to 1462 00:51:23,210 --> 00:51:23,388 highlight what it takes to make 1463 00:51:23,388 --> 00:51:24,220 ems great. 1464 00:51:24,220 --> 00:51:26,422 We have EMTs, paramedics, 1465 00:51:27,692 --> 00:51:28,360 dispatchers, nurses, 1466 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,270 dispatchers, servers and all 1467 00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:32,270 our support staff that work 1468 00:51:33,310 --> 00:51:33,765 together to make this you know, 1469 00:51:33,765 --> 00:51:34,466 put a great service in the city 1470 00:51:34,466 --> 00:51:35,733 along with other partners that 1471 00:51:35,733 --> 00:51:38,733 we collaborate with City Fire 1472 00:51:40,939 --> 00:51:41,807 or City Communication Center. 1473 00:51:41,807 --> 00:51:42,507 It truly is a team sport and it 1474 00:51:42,507 --> 00:51:43,141 really takes all of us to show 1475 00:51:43,141 --> 00:51:45,610 up and really serve this 1476 00:51:45,610 --> 00:51:46,311 community every single day. 1477 00:51:46,311 --> 00:51:47,110 We're truly grateful and proud 1478 00:51:47,110 --> 00:51:50,749 to serve the city of San Diego 1479 00:51:50,749 --> 00:51:51,450 and we're extremely humble for 1480 00:51:51,450 --> 00:51:52,117 everyone here to put the trust 1481 00:51:52,117 --> 00:51:55,717 in us to provide that care. 1482 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:56,654 Thank you for recognizing ems 1483 00:51:56,654 --> 00:51:57,222 Week and thank you for 1484 00:51:57,222 --> 00:51:57,655 the people behind it. 1485 00:51:57,655 --> 00:51:58,323 >> Thank you. 1486 00:51:58,323 --> 00:51:59,240 Thank you very much, Carlos. 1487 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:03,224 Thank you to all of you for 1488 00:52:04,196 --> 00:52:07,196 your service to our city. 1489 00:52:08,434 --> 00:52:09,135 >> I'm pleased to join Bayer 1490 00:52:09,135 --> 00:52:09,701 Gloria and councilmembers Lee 1491 00:52:09,701 --> 00:52:12,101 played Isla Rivera in 1492 00:52:12,938 --> 00:52:13,605 proclaiming City of Santiago 1493 00:52:13,605 --> 00:52:15,605 Filipino American Employees 1494 00:52:17,309 --> 00:52:18,100 Association Day As we celebrate 1495 00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:18,744 the important contributions of 1496 00:52:18,744 --> 00:52:22,344 the city of San Diego, Filipino 1497 00:52:22,581 --> 00:52:23,282 American employees Association, 1498 00:52:23,282 --> 00:52:23,815 Filipino Americans continue to 1499 00:52:23,815 --> 00:52:26,815 play a vital role in 1500 00:52:27,452 --> 00:52:28,120 strengthening say Diego through 1501 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:28,721 public service and community 1502 00:52:28,721 --> 00:52:30,721 leadership, health care, 1503 00:52:32,491 --> 00:52:32,825 education and so many other 1504 00:52:32,825 --> 00:52:33,392 fields. 1505 00:52:33,392 --> 00:52:34,600 And I want to thank 1506 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:34,626 the association's leadership 1507 00:52:34,626 --> 00:52:37,260 and members for their 1508 00:52:37,530 --> 00:52:38,960 dedication and continued 1509 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:38,696 commitment to serving 1510 00:52:38,696 --> 00:52:41,696 the people of San Diego. 1511 00:52:43,802 --> 00:52:44,470 And finally I will join in 1512 00:52:44,470 --> 00:52:46,500 the thanks to Rita Cabello, 1513 00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:46,639 comedian Ed Roos for 30 years 1514 00:52:46,639 --> 00:52:47,106 of dedication to our city. 1515 00:52:47,106 --> 00:52:49,106 Congratulations. 1516 00:52:50,776 --> 00:52:51,477 For decades you served our city 1517 00:52:51,477 --> 00:52:51,911 and we are deeply grateful for 1518 00:52:51,911 --> 00:52:52,511 your service. 1519 00:52:52,511 --> 00:52:55,511 Thank you and thank you. 1520 00:52:55,781 --> 00:52:56,482 Council PRESIDENT Thank you 1521 00:52:56,482 --> 00:52:59,482 Council member Whitburn I will 1522 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:01,786 now go to Council PRESIDENT Pro 1523 00:53:01,786 --> 00:53:02,453 Tem Lee I think as PRESIDENT 1524 00:53:02,453 --> 00:53:03,155 And I want to thank my 1525 00:53:03,155 --> 00:53:05,891 colleagues for the number of 1526 00:53:05,891 --> 00:53:06,358 recognitions today including to 1527 00:53:06,358 --> 00:53:08,358 everyone in ems. 1528 00:53:11,197 --> 00:53:11,830 Thank you for being here too 1529 00:53:11,830 --> 00:53:12,498 Kelly I've actually had a 1530 00:53:12,498 --> 00:53:15,434 chance to visit once with my 1531 00:53:15,434 --> 00:53:16,100 friends from Kingfisher and it 1532 00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:16,802 was very enjoyable and 1533 00:53:16,802 --> 00:53:19,802 congratulations to you and all 1534 00:53:20,906 --> 00:53:21,640 your work in the community. 1535 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,308 I'm going to speak specifically 1536 00:53:22,308 --> 00:53:25,440 to a couple of proclamations 1537 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:25,711 starting with item 31 where I 1538 00:53:25,711 --> 00:53:28,711 want to thank Council member 1539 00:53:29,415 --> 00:53:30,182 Whitburn for having us join him 1540 00:53:30,182 --> 00:53:33,182 in proclaiming MAY 24th 2026 as 1541 00:53:33,953 --> 00:53:34,620 Shipping Temple and Buddha's 1542 00:53:34,620 --> 00:53:34,987 Birthday Celebration day in 1543 00:53:34,987 --> 00:53:35,687 the City. 1544 00:53:35,687 --> 00:53:36,422 I think you've already heard a 1545 00:53:36,422 --> 00:53:39,158 little bit about them what they 1546 00:53:39,158 --> 00:53:39,858 do and I just want to thank you 1547 00:53:39,858 --> 00:53:42,858 for your remarks especially in 1548 00:53:43,529 --> 00:53:44,230 light of the incident yesterday 1549 00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:44,830 at the Islamic Center of San 1550 00:53:44,830 --> 00:53:47,230 Diego and especially and 1551 00:53:48,234 --> 00:53:48,934 recognizing that when it comes 1552 00:53:48,934 --> 00:53:49,635 to getting people together of 1553 00:53:49,635 --> 00:53:50,370 all faiths and all cultures, I 1554 00:53:50,370 --> 00:53:53,372 think there's one thing that we 1555 00:53:53,372 --> 00:53:54,106 can share in common in terms of 1556 00:53:54,106 --> 00:53:57,106 calling out hatred and violence 1557 00:53:57,810 --> 00:53:58,778 and that was meaningful for you 1558 00:53:58,778 --> 00:54:02,281 to share in your time up here 1559 00:54:02,281 --> 00:54:02,981 for item 32 for Troy Wilson Day 1560 00:54:02,981 --> 00:54:05,381 we actually originally had 1561 00:54:07,420 --> 00:54:08,120 intended to have DR. Wilson and 1562 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:08,788 his team with us today and I 1563 00:54:08,788 --> 00:54:11,525 just want to share that in 1564 00:54:11,525 --> 00:54:12,225 light of yesterday's events 1565 00:54:12,225 --> 00:54:13,920 that they did make a choice, 1566 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,495 you know not to attend this 1567 00:54:16,495 --> 00:54:17,296 morning but I do still want to 1568 00:54:17,296 --> 00:54:20,296 take this moment to join 1569 00:54:21,534 --> 00:54:22,134 council PRESIDENT LaCava, my 1570 00:54:22,134 --> 00:54:22,801 colleague Councilmember 1571 00:54:22,801 --> 00:54:25,201 Campbell in proclaiming JUNE 1572 00:54:25,771 --> 00:54:26,472 11th, 2026 is Troy Wilson Day 1573 00:54:26,472 --> 00:54:26,839 in the city of San Diego on 1574 00:54:26,839 --> 00:54:28,839 JUNE 11th. 1575 00:54:30,843 --> 00:54:31,477 DR. Wilson will be presented 1576 00:54:31,477 --> 00:54:32,111 with the 2026 Dwayne Roth 1577 00:54:32,111 --> 00:54:34,511 Achievement Award for his 1578 00:54:35,314 --> 00:54:36,150 leadership in cancer drug 1579 00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:36,482 development and his impact on 1580 00:54:36,482 --> 00:54:37,149 cancer patients. 1581 00:54:37,149 --> 00:54:39,549 The Dwayne Roth Achievement 1582 00:54:40,486 --> 00:54:41,154 Award is presented to health 1583 00:54:41,154 --> 00:54:41,721 care leaders whose focus is 1584 00:54:41,721 --> 00:54:42,388 solely on patients by 1585 00:54:42,388 --> 00:54:44,388 overcoming institutional and 1586 00:54:45,792 --> 00:54:46,526 scientific challenges to bring 1587 00:54:46,526 --> 00:54:47,159 forward new research that leads 1588 00:54:47,159 --> 00:54:49,159 to revolutionary treatment 1589 00:54:49,996 --> 00:54:50,696 methods and as PRESIDENT Ceo 1590 00:54:50,696 --> 00:54:51,397 and CHAIRMAN Of the Board for 1591 00:54:51,397 --> 00:54:54,397 Cure Oncology, DR. Wilson has 1592 00:54:55,268 --> 00:54:55,902 been a pioneer in that field. 1593 00:54:55,902 --> 00:54:56,602 He's proven to be an 1594 00:54:56,602 --> 00:54:57,303 accomplished leader in biotech 1595 00:54:57,303 --> 00:54:59,638 through the founding building 1596 00:54:59,638 --> 00:55:00,206 and leading of innovative 1597 00:55:00,206 --> 00:55:00,873 companies that deliver 1598 00:55:00,873 --> 00:55:01,373 transformative therapies for 1599 00:55:01,373 --> 00:55:03,373 patients benefit. 1600 00:55:04,310 --> 00:55:04,911 And with more than 25 years of 1601 00:55:04,911 --> 00:55:05,611 experience has delivered 1602 00:55:05,611 --> 00:55:07,611 groundbreaking therapies that 1603 00:55:08,447 --> 00:55:09,480 have resulted in life changing 1604 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:09,415 results for oncological 1605 00:55:09,415 --> 00:55:10,116 patients. 1606 00:55:10,116 --> 00:55:13,116 So we're certainly honored to 1607 00:55:13,887 --> 00:55:14,587 celebrate his innovation and 1608 00:55:14,587 --> 00:55:15,288 achievements and DR. Wilson's 1609 00:55:15,288 --> 00:55:17,688 deep commitment to innovation 1610 00:55:19,258 --> 00:55:19,926 and patients certainly make him 1611 00:55:19,926 --> 00:55:22,326 worthy of that recognition. 1612 00:55:23,997 --> 00:55:24,631 Thank you to you cc D.A. For 1613 00:55:24,631 --> 00:55:27,310 recognizing him and we're 1614 00:55:28,101 --> 00:55:28,968 honored to join them in that. 1615 00:55:28,968 --> 00:55:29,569 And then finally for item 500, 1616 00:55:29,569 --> 00:55:31,969 we're proud to recognize 1617 00:55:32,938 --> 00:55:33,540 Philippine independence Day and 1618 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:34,240 to celebrate the lasting 1619 00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,640 contributions of our Filipino 1620 00:55:37,477 --> 00:55:38,111 American community, especially 1621 00:55:38,111 --> 00:55:38,711 through the dedicated city 1622 00:55:38,711 --> 00:55:41,111 employees who serve our 1623 00:55:42,820 --> 00:55:42,749 residents every day. 1624 00:55:42,749 --> 00:55:43,316 This proclamation celebrates 1625 00:55:43,316 --> 00:55:46,316 the city of San Diego 1626 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:48,221 Filipino-American employees and 1627 00:55:48,221 --> 00:55:51,221 they hold a fantastic cultural 1628 00:55:52,158 --> 00:55:52,826 celebration every year 1629 00:55:52,826 --> 00:55:53,930 surrounding the Independence 1630 00:55:53,930 --> 00:55:53,660 Day. 1631 00:55:53,660 --> 00:55:56,600 It's a great luncheon. 1632 00:55:57,630 --> 00:55:57,797 Last year they had a city band 1633 00:55:57,797 --> 00:56:01,397 that performed which was fun in 1634 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:02,736 its own right and in these 1635 00:56:02,736 --> 00:56:03,436 moments I think we we are 1636 00:56:03,436 --> 00:56:06,139 appreciative that we get to be 1637 00:56:06,139 --> 00:56:06,840 a city that really values this 1638 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:07,440 sense of diversity within our 1639 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,440 city and the impact that 1640 00:56:11,478 --> 00:56:12,111 Filipino employees have 1641 00:56:12,111 --> 00:56:12,412 throughout the city of San 1642 00:56:12,412 --> 00:56:13,460 Diego. 1643 00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:16,460 So with that concludes my 1644 00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:17,500 comments. 1645 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:17,717 Thank you. 1646 00:56:17,717 --> 00:56:18,840 Council PRESIDENT All right. 1647 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:18,785 Thank you. 1648 00:56:18,785 --> 00:56:21,121 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Not 1649 00:56:21,121 --> 00:56:21,521 seeing anyone else in 1650 00:56:21,521 --> 00:56:22,188 the lights. 1651 00:56:22,188 --> 00:56:25,188 i'll offer a few concluding 1652 00:56:25,492 --> 00:56:27,892 comments as well recognizing 1653 00:56:30,296 --> 00:56:30,964 everybody who got a 1654 00:56:30,964 --> 00:56:33,364 proclamation an individual a 1655 00:56:35,802 --> 00:56:36,503 cause Um I congratulate and 1656 00:56:36,503 --> 00:56:37,237 thinking of my colleagues for 1657 00:56:37,237 --> 00:56:39,637 bringing these and highlighting 1658 00:56:40,507 --> 00:56:41,207 what makes San Diego so special 1659 00:56:41,207 --> 00:56:43,607 to emergency medical services. 1660 00:56:44,511 --> 00:56:45,145 Thank you to the first 1661 00:56:45,145 --> 00:56:45,512 responders and what you do 1662 00:56:45,512 --> 00:56:47,512 every day. 1663 00:56:49,449 --> 00:56:50,149 As was said unfortunately too 1664 00:56:50,149 --> 00:56:50,817 often yesterday you run into 1665 00:56:50,817 --> 00:56:54,417 the danger to serve those in 1666 00:56:55,355 --> 00:56:55,755 their most vulnerable 1667 00:56:55,755 --> 00:56:56,523 conditions. 1668 00:56:56,523 --> 00:56:58,923 >> So we're so appreciative. 1669 00:56:59,993 --> 00:57:00,727 As the only Italian up here, 1670 00:57:00,727 --> 00:57:01,561 I'm a little embarrassed that I 1671 00:57:01,561 --> 00:57:04,431 didn't get my name added to 1672 00:57:04,431 --> 00:57:05,298 the proclamation. 1673 00:57:05,298 --> 00:57:05,999 But I will honor you by saying 1674 00:57:05,999 --> 00:57:08,902 you have the best and freshest 1675 00:57:08,902 --> 00:57:09,403 cannoli in the city and that's 1676 00:57:09,403 --> 00:57:11,803 a very high bar. 1677 00:57:13,373 --> 00:57:16,973 >> So thank you for for that. 1678 00:57:17,978 --> 00:57:18,845 And to the proclamations on 1679 00:57:18,845 --> 00:57:22,349 item 30 excuse me going to do 1680 00:57:22,349 --> 00:57:23,830 32 First of Troy Wilson Day 1681 00:57:23,830 --> 00:57:23,717 I'll join Council PRESIDENT Pro 1682 00:57:23,717 --> 00:57:26,717 Tem Lee and council member 1683 00:57:26,854 --> 00:57:27,554 Campbell in congratulating DR. 1684 00:57:27,554 --> 00:57:29,954 Wilson on receiving the 2026 1685 00:57:31,258 --> 00:57:32,250 Dwayne Roth Achievement Award 1686 00:57:32,250 --> 00:57:32,693 for your remarkable research in 1687 00:57:32,693 --> 00:57:35,693 the field of oncology, your 1688 00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:36,897 research and contributions are 1689 00:57:36,897 --> 00:57:37,531 nothing short of remarkable 1690 00:57:37,531 --> 00:57:38,132 from being the founder of 1691 00:57:38,132 --> 00:57:40,132 multiple cancer research 1692 00:57:40,934 --> 00:57:41,601 companies to developing 1693 00:57:41,601 --> 00:57:42,200 groundbreaking therapies and 1694 00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:42,703 medication. 1695 00:57:42,703 --> 00:57:45,703 DR. Wilson's work continues to 1696 00:57:46,206 --> 00:57:46,807 advance technologies that help 1697 00:57:46,807 --> 00:57:49,207 fight cancer and improve 1698 00:57:51,311 --> 00:57:52,179 the lives of so very many. 1699 00:57:52,179 --> 00:57:52,880 Thank you DR. Wilson for not 1700 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:53,580 only making San Diego a leader 1701 00:57:53,580 --> 00:57:55,980 in biotechnology research but 1702 00:57:56,183 --> 00:57:56,816 for advancing lifesaving 1703 00:57:56,816 --> 00:57:57,518 research that is changing 1704 00:57:57,518 --> 00:58:00,518 the future of cancer treatment 1705 00:58:01,254 --> 00:58:04,854 in the field of oncology and 1706 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:06,794 for countless patients I am 30 1707 00:58:06,794 --> 00:58:09,194 National Public Works Week 1708 00:58:10,431 --> 00:58:11,970 today Invite my colleagues to 1709 00:58:11,970 --> 00:58:11,832 proclaim this week MAY 17th 1710 00:58:11,832 --> 00:58:14,832 through 23rd as National Public 1711 00:58:15,302 --> 00:58:16,300 Works Week in the city of San 1712 00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:16,704 Diego so that we can highlight 1713 00:58:16,704 --> 00:58:19,704 the public works employees who 1714 00:58:20,174 --> 00:58:20,841 help keep our city up and 1715 00:58:20,841 --> 00:58:21,408 running from maintaining our 1716 00:58:21,408 --> 00:58:23,808 roads and buildings to 1717 00:58:24,578 --> 00:58:25,379 protecting our water systems. 1718 00:58:25,379 --> 00:58:26,800 These are the people that every 1719 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,800 day ensure our city's quality 1720 00:58:29,283 --> 00:58:29,783 of life and protect our public 1721 00:58:29,783 --> 00:58:30,517 health and safety. 1722 00:58:30,517 --> 00:58:33,854 Thank you to all the engineers 1723 00:58:33,854 --> 00:58:34,555 maintenance workers, managers 1724 00:58:34,555 --> 00:58:35,222 and public works employees who 1725 00:58:35,222 --> 00:58:38,822 continue to make our city as 1726 00:58:38,826 --> 00:58:39,526 safe as it can be. 1727 00:58:39,526 --> 00:58:40,160 Your knowledge, expertise and 1728 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,160 public service do not go 1729 00:58:43,463 --> 00:58:43,763 unnoticed by the people of San 1730 00:58:43,763 --> 00:58:44,565 Diego. 1731 00:58:44,565 --> 00:58:48,435 And with that I will invite our 1732 00:58:48,435 --> 00:58:49,136 chief community services 1733 00:58:49,136 --> 00:58:52,136 officer and city engineer Ron 1734 00:58:57,878 --> 00:58:58,478 Yamin to make some remarks. 1735 00:58:58,478 --> 00:59:00,478 >> Good morning. 1736 00:59:02,683 --> 00:59:03,417 Council PRESIDENT Angela Carver 1737 00:59:03,417 --> 00:59:04,118 and members of the City Council 1738 00:59:04,118 --> 00:59:07,555 on behalf of the Public Works 1739 00:59:07,555 --> 00:59:08,155 professionals across the city, 1740 00:59:08,155 --> 00:59:08,589 thank you for this 1741 00:59:08,589 --> 00:59:09,255 proclamation. 1742 00:59:09,255 --> 00:59:11,255 Recognizing National Public 1743 00:59:12,293 --> 00:59:12,860 Works Week and all our 1744 00:59:12,860 --> 00:59:14,860 dedicated Public works 1745 00:59:17,231 --> 00:59:17,932 employees this year's theme 1746 00:59:17,932 --> 00:59:20,932 Advancing Quality of Life for 1747 00:59:21,702 --> 00:59:22,303 All reflects the essential work 1748 00:59:22,303 --> 00:59:25,303 been done across so many 1749 00:59:25,973 --> 00:59:26,674 disciplines and departments 1750 00:59:26,674 --> 00:59:27,274 from maintaining our streets, 1751 00:59:27,274 --> 00:59:29,274 sidewalks and stormwater 1752 00:59:30,945 --> 00:59:31,678 systems to delivering clean 1753 00:59:31,678 --> 00:59:32,346 water and wastewater services, 1754 00:59:32,346 --> 00:59:34,346 managing capital improvement 1755 00:59:36,284 --> 00:59:36,951 Project protecting public 1756 00:59:36,951 --> 00:59:37,551 spaces, supporting fleet and 1757 00:59:37,551 --> 00:59:39,551 facilities operation and 1758 00:59:41,454 --> 00:59:41,856 responding during emergencies 1759 00:59:41,856 --> 00:59:42,423 and storms. 1760 00:59:42,423 --> 00:59:44,423 Public policies Often 1761 00:59:46,594 --> 00:59:47,261 the unseen work that keeps our 1762 00:59:47,261 --> 00:59:47,728 city moving safely, reliably 1763 00:59:47,728 --> 00:59:49,728 and efficiently. 1764 00:59:51,932 --> 00:59:52,633 Everything go day behind every 1765 00:59:52,633 --> 00:59:55,633 service As a team of 1766 00:59:55,936 --> 00:59:56,537 hardworking professionals who 1767 00:59:56,537 --> 00:59:57,205 are deeply committed to 1768 00:59:57,205 --> 01:00:00,205 improving the daily lives of 1769 01:00:00,808 --> 01:00:01,542 residents in every neighborhood 1770 01:00:01,542 --> 01:00:02,209 even with aging infrastructure, 1771 01:00:02,209 --> 01:00:04,609 growing service demands and 1772 01:00:06,247 --> 01:00:07,480 limited resources, our 1773 01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,648 employees continue to be to do 1774 01:00:11,185 --> 01:00:12,860 the absolute most with what 1775 01:00:12,860 --> 01:00:15,860 they have The resilience and 1776 01:00:15,690 --> 01:00:16,390 dedication allow critical 1777 01:00:16,390 --> 01:00:19,390 services and projects to keep 1778 01:00:19,493 --> 01:00:20,161 moving forward often behind 1779 01:00:20,161 --> 01:00:23,161 the scenes We are incredibly 1780 01:00:24,999 --> 01:00:25,732 proud of our city employees and 1781 01:00:25,732 --> 01:00:26,434 grateful for everything they do 1782 01:00:26,434 --> 01:00:29,434 for our communities And thank 1783 01:00:29,604 --> 01:00:30,171 you again for the recognition 1784 01:00:30,171 --> 01:00:30,805 and for the continued 1785 01:00:30,805 --> 01:00:33,205 partnership and support of 1786 01:00:34,942 --> 01:00:35,443 the public works. 1787 01:00:35,443 --> 01:00:36,760 Thank you Ron. 1788 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,476 The comments well stated. 1789 01:00:39,413 --> 01:00:40,248 All right. 1790 01:00:40,248 --> 01:00:41,983 With that we have a motion by 1791 01:00:41,983 --> 01:00:42,583 Councilmember Marino and a 1792 01:00:42,583 --> 01:00:42,917 second by council member 1793 01:00:42,917 --> 01:00:44,917 Foster. 1794 01:00:47,789 --> 01:00:48,523 Clerk Please call the roll. 1795 01:00:48,523 --> 01:00:49,324 Please start your voting system 1796 01:00:49,324 --> 01:00:52,324 I'm sorry your voting system 1797 01:00:54,429 --> 01:00:57,429 Please cast your vote That 1798 01:00:59,901 --> 01:01:00,535 passes unanimously 6 to 0 with 1799 01:01:00,535 --> 01:01:01,134 Council member Eli Rivera, 1800 01:01:01,134 --> 01:01:01,770 Councilmember Campo and 1801 01:01:01,770 --> 01:01:02,103 Councilmember Von Wilpert 1802 01:01:02,103 --> 01:01:02,470 absent. 1803 01:01:02,470 --> 01:01:03,972 Thank you. 1804 01:01:03,972 --> 01:01:04,505 Council PRESIDENT. 1805 01:01:04,505 --> 01:01:05,240 >> All right. 1806 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:06,107 Thank you, City Clerk And with 1807 01:01:06,107 --> 01:01:09,711 that we will take a brief pause 1808 01:01:09,711 --> 01:01:10,577 for photos and we will start 1809 01:01:10,577 --> 01:01:14,177 with item 31 which is to say 1810 01:01:14,649 --> 01:01:15,383 find Temple and Buddha's 1811 01:01:15,383 --> 01:01:18,383 birthday celebration day if you 1812 01:01:58,293 --> 01:02:00,293 can come up 1813 01:02:04,399 --> 01:02:06,399 , buddy. 1814 01:02:12,607 --> 01:02:15,607 >> But yet one thing we're 1815 01:02:58,854 --> 01:03:02,454 going to and Great Thank you 1816 01:03:07,796 --> 01:03:09,796 so 1817 01:05:04,913 --> 01:05:07,313 hard to have it 1818 01:07:04,834 --> 01:07:06,834 and 1819 01:12:11,776 --> 01:12:14,776 all right continuing on with 1820 01:12:16,514 --> 01:12:17,810 this morning's business, we 1821 01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:17,748 will now proceed with 1822 01:12:17,748 --> 01:12:20,748 the approval of the consent 1823 01:12:21,586 --> 01:12:22,285 items item 50 which was 1824 01:12:22,285 --> 01:12:25,285 previously heard at the Budget 1825 01:12:25,756 --> 01:12:26,257 Committee will be returned to 1826 01:12:26,257 --> 01:12:26,991 staff again. 1827 01:12:26,991 --> 01:12:27,692 Item 50 which was previously 1828 01:12:27,692 --> 01:12:30,692 heard at the Budget Committee 1829 01:12:31,261 --> 01:12:32,620 will be returned to staff. 1830 01:12:32,620 --> 01:12:32,864 Are there any request to pull 1831 01:12:32,864 --> 01:12:35,864 an item by my council 1832 01:12:36,734 --> 01:12:37,402 colleagues? 1833 01:12:37,402 --> 01:12:37,735 I'm not seeing any such 1834 01:12:37,735 --> 01:12:38,403 request. 1835 01:12:38,403 --> 01:12:40,803 Clerk Please proceed with 1836 01:12:41,506 --> 01:12:42,600 public comment. 1837 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:42,707 Thank you. 1838 01:12:42,707 --> 01:12:43,340 Council PRESIDENT Please don't 1839 01:12:43,340 --> 01:12:45,710 you Speaker We'll have one 1840 01:12:45,710 --> 01:12:46,377 minute per item per person If 1841 01:12:46,377 --> 01:12:47,111 you would like to speak on 1842 01:12:47,111 --> 01:12:47,779 three or more items you'll have 1843 01:12:47,779 --> 01:12:50,779 a maximum of three minutes. 1844 01:12:50,815 --> 01:12:53,215 The consent agenda includes 1845 01:12:54,752 --> 01:12:55,453 items ten items 103 104 items 1846 01:12:55,453 --> 01:12:55,819 504 and s505 Item 50 was 1847 01:12:55,819 --> 01:12:57,819 returned. 1848 01:12:59,424 --> 01:13:00,224 We also received comments on 1849 01:13:00,224 --> 01:13:02,224 items 101 012 in favor 1850 01:13:04,461 --> 01:13:05,263 respectively b r e comment form 1851 01:13:05,263 --> 01:13:08,263 which have been distributed to 1852 01:13:08,767 --> 01:13:09,601 the Council. 1853 01:13:09,601 --> 01:13:12,637 We have Brian Helmick here to 1854 01:13:12,637 --> 01:13:14,637 speak on item 100. 1855 01:13:14,906 --> 01:13:17,306 You'll have one minute. 1856 01:13:21,779 --> 01:13:24,779 >> Please proceed And that's a 1857 01:13:27,886 --> 01:13:28,753 set strict and he does that 1858 01:13:28,753 --> 01:13:29,354 team Ed is not just a funding 1859 01:13:29,354 --> 01:13:31,754 board but it's actually 1860 01:13:32,157 --> 01:13:32,824 the embodiment of a community 1861 01:13:32,824 --> 01:13:33,424 community that voted into it 1862 01:13:33,424 --> 01:13:34,920 into existence and it's 1863 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,492 residents coming together to 1864 01:13:37,695 --> 01:13:38,430 show pride in their shared 1865 01:13:38,430 --> 01:13:39,130 neighborhood and San Diego team 1866 01:13:39,130 --> 01:13:42,130 and fully supports this banner 1867 01:13:42,667 --> 01:13:43,368 district and has approved 1868 01:13:43,368 --> 01:13:44,690 related funding for a display 1869 01:13:44,690 --> 01:13:46,690 celebrating Talmage Centennial 1870 01:13:47,172 --> 01:13:47,839 year. 1871 01:13:47,839 --> 01:13:48,606 Our theme Putting down roots 1872 01:13:48,606 --> 01:13:51,600 since 1926 recognizes not only 1873 01:13:52,310 --> 01:13:53,440 talent as founding but also all 1874 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:53,745 who have made this part of San 1875 01:13:53,745 --> 01:13:56,145 Diego their home through 1876 01:13:57,716 --> 01:13:58,350 the last 100 years Today and 1877 01:13:58,350 --> 01:14:01,350 also going forward we hope 1878 01:14:01,786 --> 01:14:02,453 the council will support 1879 01:14:02,453 --> 01:14:03,154 the community in authorizing 1880 01:14:03,154 --> 01:14:06,154 this district and the council 1881 01:14:06,691 --> 01:14:07,425 members and staff will join 1882 01:14:07,425 --> 01:14:08,126 residents at the annual Talmage 1883 01:14:08,126 --> 01:14:11,196 Block party in OCTOBER as this 1884 01:14:11,196 --> 01:14:11,796 part of San Diego steps forward 1885 01:14:11,796 --> 01:14:14,196 into its next 100 years. 1886 01:14:16,568 --> 01:14:17,350 Thank you. 1887 01:14:17,350 --> 01:14:17,736 Thank you. 1888 01:14:17,736 --> 01:14:18,403 Started the five minute timer 1889 01:14:18,403 --> 01:14:18,770 going to those participating 1890 01:14:18,770 --> 01:14:20,770 remotely. 1891 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:21,372 We have four speakers in 1892 01:14:21,372 --> 01:14:22,400 the queue. 1893 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:22,774 Hector if you can please and 1894 01:14:22,774 --> 01:14:23,608 mute and let me know which item 1895 01:14:23,608 --> 01:14:27,808 or items you wish to speak to 1896 01:14:28,246 --> 01:14:30,246 today. 1897 01:14:30,582 --> 01:14:31,283 The 100 The 1o4. 1898 01:14:31,283 --> 01:14:33,683 >> You'll have two minutes. 1899 01:14:35,854 --> 01:14:36,587 Please proceed guys. 1900 01:14:36,587 --> 01:14:40,187 Got to circumvent the mayor or 1901 01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:41,560 our mayor is opening as dumb 1902 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:42,127 And now I'm talking about 1903 01:14:42,127 --> 01:14:44,127 America's finest city. 1904 01:14:46,197 --> 01:14:49,197 America's finest city would not 1905 01:14:50,635 --> 01:14:51,436 be closing the libraries 1906 01:14:51,436 --> 01:14:54,436 letting Mexico dump their on 1907 01:14:55,874 --> 01:14:56,408 us for 20 years He needs to 1908 01:14:56,408 --> 01:14:58,808 calm his jets down. 1909 01:15:00,411 --> 01:15:01,113 He's known for the mayor who's 1910 01:15:01,113 --> 01:15:01,412 charged to go to the park and 1911 01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:03,412 park. 1912 01:15:06,585 --> 01:15:10,455 How he put up with want to for 1913 01:15:10,455 --> 01:15:11,223 20 years Who did the street 1914 01:15:11,223 --> 01:15:14,223 $150 million debacle on tv You 1915 01:15:16,128 --> 01:15:20,199 need to tell him to shut up on 1916 01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:20,866 the on white racism on cnn or 1917 01:15:20,866 --> 01:15:21,566 white supremacy or something 1918 01:15:21,566 --> 01:15:24,566 like that That's his argument 1919 01:15:25,537 --> 01:15:29,708 Hate So do your job and tell 1920 01:15:29,708 --> 01:15:30,576 the mayor to shut up man And 1921 01:15:30,576 --> 01:15:34,176 this is not right What he's 1922 01:15:34,813 --> 01:15:35,580 doing. 1923 01:15:35,580 --> 01:15:38,580 I couldn't find the number 1924 01:15:39,751 --> 01:15:40,619 there to the other So the mayor 1925 01:15:40,619 --> 01:15:43,856 is way out of line and tell 1926 01:15:43,856 --> 01:15:44,822 the chicks chicks with blue 1927 01:15:44,822 --> 01:15:48,422 hair to cool their jets at 1928 01:15:49,328 --> 01:15:53,398 the meetings, man And we got to 1929 01:15:53,398 --> 01:15:54,200 do a proclamation for the Garza 1930 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,200 Strip The genocide Genocide at 1931 01:15:58,237 --> 01:15:59,370 Gaza Strip Proclamation. 1932 01:15:59,370 --> 01:15:59,404 We need to denounce that. 1933 01:15:59,404 --> 01:16:01,404 So okay. 1934 01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:03,842 Thanks a lot. 1935 01:16:03,842 --> 01:16:04,542 Next is 8700 If you can please 1936 01:16:04,542 --> 01:16:05,310 unmute and please let me know 1937 01:16:05,310 --> 01:16:09,510 which item or items you wish to 1938 01:16:10,482 --> 01:16:10,883 speak to. 1939 01:16:10,883 --> 01:16:12,883 Thank you. 1940 01:16:14,653 --> 01:16:15,287 I will be speaking on 1 or 2 1 1941 01:16:15,287 --> 01:16:15,787 or 3 and 5 or 5. 1942 01:16:15,787 --> 01:16:17,787 >> Thank you. 1943 01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:19,457 Please proceed. 1944 01:16:19,457 --> 01:16:21,457 Thank you. 1945 01:16:22,494 --> 01:16:25,998 1 or 2 oh first of all here are 1946 01:16:25,998 --> 01:16:26,465 two grant items and one 1947 01:16:26,465 --> 01:16:28,465 donation items. 1948 01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:31,803 So thank you for all for 1949 01:16:31,803 --> 01:16:32,103 helping us make this a better 1950 01:16:32,103 --> 01:16:34,103 world. 1951 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,400 1 or 2. 1952 01:16:39,912 --> 01:16:40,613 Yes And thank you for $1.5 1953 01:16:40,613 --> 01:16:43,613 million grant for general fund 1954 01:16:44,483 --> 01:16:45,150 help for wild fire prevention. 1955 01:16:45,150 --> 01:16:48,150 It's just a great item. 1956 01:16:49,922 --> 01:16:54,122 So love so much to the fire 1957 01:16:54,292 --> 01:16:54,693 rescue people and their entire 1958 01:16:54,693 --> 01:16:56,693 department. 1959 01:16:58,898 --> 01:16:59,698 103 Yes to accept donations 1960 01:16:59,698 --> 01:17:02,698 from the San Diego Parks 1961 01:17:11,610 --> 01:17:12,110 Foundation for f y 25 totaling 1962 01:17:12,110 --> 01:17:12,645 $1,875,500. 1963 01:17:12,645 --> 01:17:15,450 That's a wonderful funding 1964 01:17:16,949 --> 01:17:21,149 amount And also and a big thank 1965 01:17:21,787 --> 01:17:22,488 you to Parks and Rec and for 1966 01:17:22,488 --> 01:17:23,255 all of the employees there and 1967 01:17:23,255 --> 01:17:26,659 for everything you do for our 1968 01:17:26,659 --> 01:17:29,659 wonderful parks And thank you 1969 01:17:31,297 --> 01:17:32,630 to the donors who just love you 1970 01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:35,768 love you a lot and we just 1971 01:17:35,768 --> 01:17:36,735 appreciate your support And 1972 01:17:36,735 --> 01:17:40,706 the more help you can get us is 1973 01:17:40,706 --> 01:17:41,440 really appreciate so much. 1974 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:43,440 505 Yes to accepting 1975 01:17:45,444 --> 01:17:47,844 the highway bridge program 1976 01:17:49,581 --> 01:17:50,116 grant and agreement Santee 1977 01:17:50,116 --> 01:17:52,116 Irrigation District. 1978 01:17:54,887 --> 01:17:55,521 And I'll just conclude with 1979 01:17:55,521 --> 01:17:56,122 saying love to the entire 1980 01:17:56,122 --> 01:17:58,122 engineering and capital 1981 01:18:00,126 --> 01:18:00,993 projects of people for 1982 01:18:00,993 --> 01:18:04,593 everything they do for us and 1983 01:18:04,797 --> 01:18:07,197 wasn't the proclamation timing 1984 01:18:09,435 --> 01:18:10,102 at the beginning of the meeting 1985 01:18:10,102 --> 01:18:13,102 just the most beautiful spot 1986 01:18:13,706 --> 01:18:14,673 for it to be today? 1987 01:18:14,673 --> 01:18:18,711 It was so helpful for me and 1988 01:18:18,711 --> 01:18:19,378 thank you so very much and 1989 01:18:19,378 --> 01:18:19,812 we'll have a beautiful day. 1990 01:18:19,812 --> 01:18:21,812 Love to all. 1991 01:18:23,650 --> 01:18:24,383 Thank you. 1992 01:18:24,383 --> 01:18:25,510 Next is Blaire Beekman. 1993 01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:25,785 If you can please unmute and 1994 01:18:25,785 --> 01:18:27,854 let me know which item or items 1995 01:18:27,854 --> 01:18:30,854 you wish to speak to. 1996 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:34,427 Hi Player Beekman. 1997 01:18:34,427 --> 01:18:35,495 Hold on a second. 1998 01:18:35,495 --> 01:18:38,698 I got to when I'm up here and 1999 01:18:38,698 --> 01:18:41,834 find my okay where I'm starting 2000 01:18:41,834 --> 01:18:45,338 from item s final four and then 2001 01:18:45,338 --> 01:18:45,872 items 1 to 1 one on to one of 2002 01:18:45,872 --> 01:18:46,239 three and that's it. 2003 01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:48,239 Thank you. 2004 01:18:50,443 --> 01:18:50,943 Please proceed. 2005 01:18:50,943 --> 01:18:52,943 >> Yeah. 2006 01:18:54,981 --> 01:18:55,948 Hi, I'm Claire Beekman. 2007 01:18:55,948 --> 01:18:56,716 >> I have been in two of these 2008 01:18:56,716 --> 01:19:00,316 mass shootings in the San Jose 2009 01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:00,987 area in the past ten years and 2010 01:19:00,987 --> 01:19:04,587 or have been around and, you 2011 01:19:04,891 --> 01:19:05,525 know, attending council 2012 01:19:05,525 --> 01:19:06,259 meetings and getting into 2013 01:19:06,259 --> 01:19:10,459 the work we do as a community 2014 01:19:10,597 --> 01:19:11,331 going on to these items in our 2015 01:19:11,331 --> 01:19:13,731 consent calendar regular agenda 2016 01:19:14,967 --> 01:19:15,802 it can be really helpful just 2017 01:19:15,802 --> 01:19:16,703 to see it and feel it back to 2018 01:19:16,703 --> 01:19:20,600 seeing again and what we do 2019 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:20,874 well and good Look up what we 2020 01:19:20,874 --> 01:19:24,110 can be doing well today for 2021 01:19:24,110 --> 01:19:24,477 the Sally Ordinance for fiscal 2022 01:19:24,477 --> 01:19:26,477 year 2027. 2023 01:19:28,915 --> 01:19:29,549 Again, like I said earlier, 2024 01:19:29,549 --> 01:19:32,549 good luck to the rating 2025 01:19:34,154 --> 01:19:34,854 decreases salary decrease idea 2026 01:19:34,854 --> 01:19:38,454 And two I just wanted to 2027 01:19:38,725 --> 01:19:39,425 quickly add whatever you can 2028 01:19:39,425 --> 01:19:42,425 manage you know whatever sort 2029 01:19:43,930 --> 01:19:44,531 of cut you can take I think 2030 01:19:44,531 --> 01:19:45,264 would make an incredibly 2031 01:19:45,264 --> 01:19:47,664 helpful and important statement 2032 01:19:48,802 --> 01:19:49,501 to everyone of San Diego And I 2033 01:19:49,501 --> 01:19:50,203 think it can be really small 2034 01:19:50,203 --> 01:19:53,203 and actually accomplish a lot 2035 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:54,641 because we we have good ideals 2036 01:19:54,641 --> 01:19:57,410 and working towards good 2037 01:19:58,712 --> 01:19:59,579 intentions and that will open 2038 01:19:59,579 --> 01:20:00,246 our minds up to better ways of 2039 01:20:00,246 --> 01:20:03,246 thinking and better logic is 2040 01:20:03,950 --> 01:20:04,717 what I'm hoping for. 2041 01:20:04,717 --> 01:20:05,584 We're set with budget issues so 2042 01:20:05,584 --> 01:20:09,184 good luck with that And to 2043 01:20:11,625 --> 01:20:14,625 really consider it item 101 is 2044 01:20:16,929 --> 01:20:17,564 budget items for funding for 2045 01:20:17,564 --> 01:20:19,964 Montgomery Gibbs Field and 2046 01:20:21,567 --> 01:20:22,168 Brownfield airports. 2047 01:20:22,168 --> 01:20:23,300 How is the item going? 2048 01:20:23,300 --> 01:20:26,603 There was supposed to be kind 2049 01:20:26,873 --> 01:20:27,507 of a after the accident at 2050 01:20:27,507 --> 01:20:30,507 the recent airport it was 2051 01:20:31,244 --> 01:20:31,945 really noted that there is a 2052 01:20:31,945 --> 01:20:32,579 lack of communication between 2053 01:20:32,579 --> 01:20:34,979 the different airports and 2054 01:20:35,140 --> 01:20:35,682 perhaps, you know, the one 2055 01:20:35,682 --> 01:20:36,316 airport that I know there's 2056 01:20:36,316 --> 01:20:38,716 basic problems and and 2057 01:20:39,819 --> 01:20:40,554 maintenance issues. 2058 01:20:40,554 --> 01:20:43,554 How is all that communication 2059 01:20:44,858 --> 01:20:45,525 going and maintenance upkeep is 2060 01:20:45,525 --> 01:20:46,226 better dialog being created, 2061 01:20:46,226 --> 01:20:49,226 better openness good luck and 2062 01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:50,697 good luck in that effort and 2063 01:20:50,697 --> 01:20:53,697 work with item 102 is Wildlife 2064 01:20:54,668 --> 01:20:55,435 Wildfire funding for the Lake 2065 01:20:55,435 --> 01:20:58,435 Hodges in San Francisco Valley 2066 01:20:59,306 --> 01:21:02,906 area And I think you've been 2067 01:21:04,511 --> 01:21:05,245 doing some interesting work as 2068 01:21:05,245 --> 01:21:05,846 a community local neighborhood 2069 01:21:05,846 --> 01:21:08,846 with the fire issues in 2070 01:21:08,915 --> 01:21:09,650 the summertime. 2071 01:21:09,650 --> 01:21:10,317 It's been really interesting to 2072 01:21:10,317 --> 01:21:13,917 see that over the past year 2073 01:21:14,254 --> 01:21:14,988 keep up that good work and to 2074 01:21:14,988 --> 01:21:15,722 mention the Dora you know don't 2075 01:21:15,722 --> 01:21:18,392 be afraid to have conversations 2076 01:21:18,392 --> 01:21:19,126 about fire issues and where 2077 01:21:19,126 --> 01:21:22,726 they come from and what exactly 2078 01:21:22,930 --> 01:21:23,630 and where they're coming from. 2079 01:21:23,630 --> 01:21:24,364 We need to have those 2080 01:21:24,364 --> 01:21:26,764 conversations and about whether 2081 01:21:27,901 --> 01:21:28,568 we can't be afraid of those 2082 01:21:28,568 --> 01:21:29,200 conversations and that they 2083 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:29,502 can't be open. 2084 01:21:29,502 --> 01:21:31,902 They can be open. 2085 01:21:32,639 --> 01:21:33,206 Let's find ways to make open 2086 01:21:33,206 --> 01:21:35,206 and safe conversation. 2087 01:21:36,376 --> 01:21:37,100 And finally with Windows three 2088 01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:37,678 Parks Foundation issues, I 2089 01:21:37,678 --> 01:21:40,780 think we're making important 2090 01:21:42,149 --> 01:21:42,850 strides to understand even 2091 01:21:42,850 --> 01:21:43,517 Councilperson Bowman are just 2092 01:21:43,517 --> 01:21:44,117 asking is there a difference 2093 01:21:44,117 --> 01:21:46,117 between Parks Foundation 2094 01:21:46,420 --> 01:21:47,870 funding and money that's going 2095 01:21:47,870 --> 01:21:47,387 to the general fund at this 2096 01:21:47,387 --> 01:21:47,988 time? 2097 01:21:47,988 --> 01:21:51,230 It can be okay if that's 2098 01:21:51,230 --> 01:21:51,692 happening Let's just be clear 2099 01:21:51,692 --> 01:21:52,125 with each other about it and 2100 01:21:52,125 --> 01:21:52,693 your time has. 2101 01:21:52,693 --> 01:21:53,160 >> Thank you for that. 2102 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,160 Thank you. 2103 01:21:55,429 --> 01:21:56,130 We have two speakers in 2104 01:21:56,130 --> 01:21:56,697 the queue and the five minute 2105 01:21:56,697 --> 01:21:57,363 timer has concluded no 2106 01:21:57,363 --> 01:21:59,763 additional speakers will be 2107 01:22:00,670 --> 01:22:00,834 taken. 2108 01:22:00,834 --> 01:22:01,401 Tony if you can please unmute 2109 01:22:01,401 --> 01:22:03,801 after that is Kathryn. 2110 01:22:04,338 --> 01:22:05,104 Tony please let me know which 2111 01:22:05,104 --> 01:22:09,304 item or items you wish to speak 2112 01:22:09,543 --> 01:22:13,147 to me Yes I would like to speak 2113 01:22:13,147 --> 01:22:16,747 to item 103 I'd like to speak 2114 01:22:17,418 --> 01:22:18,218 to item 1 or 2 and I would like 2115 01:22:18,218 --> 01:22:18,785 to speak to item 1 or 1 please. 2116 01:22:18,785 --> 01:22:20,785 >> Please proceed. 2117 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:21,555 You have three minutes. 2118 01:22:21,555 --> 01:22:22,389 >> Thank you. 2119 01:22:22,389 --> 01:22:25,389 These seem like some pretty 2120 01:22:26,260 --> 01:22:30,130 slam dunk knock out of the park 2121 01:22:30,130 --> 01:22:30,997 resolutions here. 2122 01:22:30,997 --> 01:22:31,732 It seems like we would just be 2123 01:22:31,732 --> 01:22:34,732 accepting grants which I can't. 2124 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:35,736 I can't think of any reason why 2125 01:22:35,736 --> 01:22:36,360 we wouldn't want to accept that 2126 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,360 money. 2127 01:22:39,573 --> 01:22:40,240 The California Natural 2128 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,840 Resources Agency is a is a 2129 01:22:44,778 --> 01:22:45,413 wonderful program and I think 2130 01:22:45,413 --> 01:22:47,813 that's a fantastic grant. 2131 01:22:48,150 --> 01:22:48,582 I'd love to see us accept that 2132 01:22:48,582 --> 01:22:49,283 1.5 million to support 2133 01:22:49,283 --> 01:22:52,283 the General Fund for Wildfire 2134 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:53,554 Prevention activities. 2135 01:22:53,554 --> 01:22:57,154 And again, I just want to 2136 01:22:57,791 --> 01:22:58,526 reiterate something that I 2137 01:22:58,526 --> 01:22:59,426 mentioned last week in Council. 2138 01:22:59,426 --> 01:23:03,230 I hope that we are looking into 2139 01:23:03,230 --> 01:23:03,898 strategic and how the fire 2140 01:23:03,898 --> 01:23:04,532 department can be utilizing 2141 01:23:04,532 --> 01:23:07,532 citrus tech in more ways. 2142 01:23:07,868 --> 01:23:08,736 I know that they're using it in 2143 01:23:08,736 --> 01:23:12,390 North County already and I know 2144 01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:12,707 that the fire chief is already 2145 01:23:12,707 --> 01:23:13,274 starting to implement it in 2146 01:23:13,274 --> 01:23:15,674 some of his practices. 2147 01:23:17,178 --> 01:23:17,845 So hopefully we can get 2148 01:23:17,845 --> 01:23:18,279 acquainted with that process 2149 01:23:18,279 --> 01:23:20,279 here as well. 2150 01:23:22,349 --> 01:23:26,549 And then moving on to item one 2151 01:23:27,154 --> 01:23:30,754 of three, let's see it looks 2152 01:23:31,859 --> 01:23:32,526 like that would be awesome to 2153 01:23:32,526 --> 01:23:34,662 receive the those donations 2154 01:23:34,662 --> 01:23:38,262 from this for the San Diego 2155 01:23:44,538 --> 01:23:47,538 Parks Foundation Looks like we 2156 01:23:49,770 --> 01:23:49,743 could possibly receive up to 2 2157 01:23:49,743 --> 01:23:50,444 million from that grant I'm 2158 01:23:50,444 --> 01:23:53,281 reading sorry I'm just reading 2159 01:23:53,281 --> 01:23:56,281 agenda right now So yeah 2160 01:23:58,850 --> 01:23:58,820 hopefully we can utilize that 2161 01:23:58,820 --> 01:24:01,820 money you know for everything 2162 01:24:03,124 --> 01:24:03,824 that it's needed for And yeah, 2163 01:24:03,824 --> 01:24:04,910 that's all I wanted to comment 2164 01:24:04,910 --> 01:24:04,792 on. 2165 01:24:04,792 --> 01:24:05,158 >> Thank you and good morning. 2166 01:24:05,158 --> 01:24:07,158 Thank you. 2167 01:24:07,628 --> 01:24:08,396 Katherine Rounds, if you can 2168 01:24:08,396 --> 01:24:09,297 please unmute and let me know 2169 01:24:09,297 --> 01:24:12,967 which item or items you wish to 2170 01:24:12,967 --> 01:24:13,768 speak to And yes if I could 2171 01:24:13,768 --> 01:24:17,368 speak to item as final for 2172 01:24:18,106 --> 01:24:21,409 salary ordinance and as five of 2173 01:24:21,409 --> 01:24:21,942 five The bridge Sure You heard 2174 01:24:21,942 --> 01:24:22,410 those two items? 2175 01:24:22,410 --> 01:24:22,777 >> Yes, please. 2176 01:24:22,777 --> 01:24:23,343 Thank you. 2177 01:24:23,343 --> 01:24:25,743 You have two minutes. 2178 01:24:26,647 --> 01:24:27,140 Please proceed. 2179 01:24:27,140 --> 01:24:27,682 >> Okay. 2180 01:24:27,682 --> 01:24:27,982 Forward the salary ordinance 2181 01:24:27,982 --> 01:24:29,982 here. 2182 01:24:31,219 --> 01:24:31,886 It looks like you you you know 2183 01:24:31,886 --> 01:24:34,886 did you already approve your 2184 01:24:36,570 --> 01:24:36,758 memorandum of understanding or 2185 01:24:36,758 --> 01:24:37,458 did you not during closed 2186 01:24:37,458 --> 01:24:40,458 session yesterday or the other 2187 01:24:41,195 --> 01:24:41,896 time before where people said 2188 01:24:41,896 --> 01:24:44,296 you actually signed something? 2189 01:24:45,767 --> 01:24:46,534 Anyway, this report here that's 2190 01:24:46,534 --> 01:24:50,405 about a month old it said, you 2191 01:24:50,405 --> 01:24:51,105 know, at this time it didn't 2192 01:24:51,105 --> 01:24:51,906 say exactly what the pending 2193 01:24:51,906 --> 01:24:55,110 salary and wage impacts are on 2194 01:24:55,110 --> 01:24:56,770 page two of your report. 2195 01:24:56,770 --> 01:24:59,677 So exactly how much more in 2196 01:25:00,214 --> 01:25:00,781 salary and wages are you 2197 01:25:00,781 --> 01:25:03,181 expecting to bring in? 2198 01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:05,987 You know, I don't know. 2199 01:25:05,987 --> 01:25:06,621 I think this should actually be 2200 01:25:06,621 --> 01:25:09,423 a discussion item where we 2201 01:25:09,423 --> 01:25:09,924 could actually get a an 2202 01:25:09,924 --> 01:25:11,924 analysis of this. 2203 01:25:14,529 --> 01:25:15,396 But anyway, you know what I of 2204 01:25:15,396 --> 01:25:16,970 course go back to what I think 2205 01:25:16,970 --> 01:25:19,133 you guys should be doing is I 2206 01:25:19,133 --> 01:25:19,834 think you should be firing all 2207 01:25:19,834 --> 01:25:21,834 300 of the nonunion 2208 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:25,105 unclassified employees who got 2209 01:25:25,105 --> 01:25:28,105 double and triple their pay 2210 01:25:28,743 --> 01:25:29,344 rates compared to their regular 2211 01:25:29,344 --> 01:25:31,344 union counterparts doing 2212 01:25:33,281 --> 01:25:33,681 the same work in the same job 2213 01:25:33,681 --> 01:25:34,315 description. 2214 01:25:34,315 --> 01:25:35,160 But because they're called 2215 01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:38,160 middle managers and they're I 2216 01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:39,654 would say friends of Todd's or 2217 01:25:39,654 --> 01:25:42,654 friends of somebody who somehow 2218 01:25:43,792 --> 01:25:44,492 they get to make more money 2219 01:25:44,492 --> 01:25:47,492 than the regular union people 2220 01:25:48,230 --> 01:25:48,930 in our I believe our our our 2221 01:25:48,930 --> 01:25:51,330 budget problems or structural 2222 01:25:53,101 --> 01:25:53,768 budget deficit could be solved 2223 01:25:53,768 --> 01:25:57,368 in part by firing all these 2224 01:25:57,905 --> 01:25:58,606 people and then hiring back as 2225 01:25:58,606 --> 01:25:59,340 regular union workers And you 2226 01:25:59,340 --> 01:26:02,410 could call them managers if you 2227 01:26:02,410 --> 01:26:03,178 want to. 2228 01:26:03,178 --> 01:26:06,778 You just can't you know, they 2229 01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:07,749 just have to be not the middle 2230 01:26:07,749 --> 01:26:10,749 managers who are nonunion who 2231 01:26:11,820 --> 01:26:12,354 have no you know, labor 2232 01:26:12,354 --> 01:26:14,354 protections at all. 2233 01:26:16,891 --> 01:26:17,625 And then for the El Camino real 2234 01:26:17,625 --> 01:26:21,225 Bridge to the Via Della Valley 2235 01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:22,430 I look forward to actually 2236 01:26:22,430 --> 01:26:23,297 reading all about it. 2237 01:26:23,297 --> 01:26:26,601 I didn't know about this but it 2238 01:26:26,601 --> 01:26:26,934 seems like that would be quite 2239 01:26:26,934 --> 01:26:27,301 lovely. 2240 01:26:27,301 --> 01:26:27,669 Thank you. 2241 01:26:27,669 --> 01:26:28,303 Thank you. 2242 01:26:28,303 --> 01:26:30,739 And that concludes with a 2243 01:26:30,739 --> 01:26:31,139 comment on the consent agenda. 2244 01:26:31,139 --> 01:26:31,907 All right. 2245 01:26:31,907 --> 01:26:35,507 Thank you City clerk With that 2246 01:26:35,677 --> 01:26:36,277 will turn it over to my council 2247 01:26:36,277 --> 01:26:38,277 colleagues for questions 2248 01:26:40,715 --> 01:26:41,415 comments and entertain a motion 2249 01:26:41,415 --> 01:26:42,170 and we'll start with Council 2250 01:26:42,170 --> 01:26:44,417 member Moreno Thank you. 2251 01:26:45,754 --> 01:26:46,455 >> I have comments on item 1 or 2252 01:26:46,455 --> 01:26:48,855 3 the acceptance of donations 2253 01:26:49,591 --> 01:26:50,292 from the San Diego Park 2254 01:26:50,292 --> 01:26:50,699 Foundation during fiscal year 2255 01:26:50,699 --> 01:26:51,360 2025. 2256 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,960 First and foremost I want to 2257 01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:56,131 thank the San Diego Parks 2258 01:26:56,131 --> 01:26:56,865 Foundation for this donation. 2259 01:26:56,865 --> 01:27:00,465 I am pleased to see that 2260 01:27:00,468 --> 01:27:01,136 several projects in my district 2261 01:27:01,136 --> 01:27:03,536 receive funding through this 2262 01:27:05,307 --> 01:27:06,700 item Enfield That laser 2263 01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:06,741 leveling and soil improvements 2264 01:27:06,741 --> 01:27:09,741 has been a longstanding request 2265 01:27:11,246 --> 01:27:11,880 by the board of the Lucky Wild 2266 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,750 Little League Board at our 2267 01:27:14,750 --> 01:27:15,484 monthly community Rec group 2268 01:27:15,484 --> 01:27:16,151 meetings and I'm pleased to see 2269 01:27:16,151 --> 01:27:16,718 their commitment to the park 2270 01:27:16,718 --> 01:27:19,118 and its players being 2271 01:27:20,221 --> 01:27:20,889 recognized And through these 2272 01:27:20,889 --> 01:27:21,356 improvements these upgrades 2273 01:27:21,356 --> 01:27:23,356 directly support 2274 01:27:24,926 --> 01:27:25,627 the longstanding tradition of 2275 01:27:25,627 --> 01:27:26,294 baseball practice in District 2276 01:27:26,294 --> 01:27:29,294 eight and also ensures that 2277 01:27:29,998 --> 01:27:30,766 every player has a field worthy 2278 01:27:30,766 --> 01:27:34,269 of their hard work and passion 2279 01:27:34,269 --> 01:27:34,902 for the game. 2280 01:27:34,902 --> 01:27:35,437 The South Crest lighting 2281 01:27:35,437 --> 01:27:36,138 project illuminates 2282 01:27:36,138 --> 01:27:39,107 the pedestrian path to ensure 2283 01:27:39,107 --> 01:27:39,774 that residents can utilize 2284 01:27:39,774 --> 01:27:40,409 the park in the evening and 2285 01:27:40,409 --> 01:27:42,809 increase their feeling of 2286 01:27:43,612 --> 01:27:44,313 safety. 2287 01:27:44,313 --> 01:27:45,130 Additionally, the illumination 2288 01:27:45,130 --> 01:27:48,517 allows park and rec staff with 2289 01:27:48,517 --> 01:27:49,151 the opportunity to broaden 2290 01:27:49,151 --> 01:27:51,551 their offerings by hosting 2291 01:27:53,155 --> 01:27:53,655 programing like soccer in 2292 01:27:53,655 --> 01:27:54,422 the evening hours. 2293 01:27:54,422 --> 01:27:56,792 Now with the San Isidro Larson 2294 01:27:56,792 --> 01:27:57,459 Field Community Center being 2295 01:27:57,459 --> 01:27:58,250 one of the most visited rec 2296 01:27:58,250 --> 01:28:00,425 centers in San Ysidro, 2297 01:28:02,630 --> 01:28:02,631 the installation of Retract 2298 01:28:02,631 --> 01:28:04,631 retractable back board 2299 01:28:06,835 --> 01:28:07,502 standards modernize 2300 01:28:07,502 --> 01:28:08,303 the facility that is home to 2301 01:28:08,303 --> 01:28:11,303 many families and helps support 2302 01:28:11,907 --> 01:28:12,474 the growth in the recreational 2303 01:28:12,474 --> 01:28:14,474 recreation, growth and 2304 01:28:16,178 --> 01:28:16,612 recreational needs of 2305 01:28:16,612 --> 01:28:17,279 the community. 2306 01:28:17,279 --> 01:28:17,980 The improvement will provide 2307 01:28:17,980 --> 01:28:20,980 hundreds of local children and 2308 01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:21,717 families with the significant 2309 01:28:21,717 --> 01:28:23,717 enhancement experience for 2310 01:28:25,654 --> 01:28:26,155 their indoor basketball and 2311 01:28:26,155 --> 01:28:26,921 sports programing. 2312 01:28:26,921 --> 01:28:31,930 I would also like to record a 2313 01:28:31,930 --> 01:28:31,826 no vote on item s5o4 which is 2314 01:28:31,826 --> 01:28:34,826 the salary ordinance for fiscal 2315 01:28:35,264 --> 01:28:35,863 year 2027. 2316 01:28:35,863 --> 01:28:38,263 I understand that it's 2317 01:28:40,101 --> 01:28:40,803 the intention to bring an 2318 01:28:40,803 --> 01:28:41,770 amendment forward at a future 2319 01:28:41,770 --> 01:28:45,730 date but as it stands today I 2320 01:28:45,730 --> 01:28:45,506 cannot support this item in its 2321 01:28:45,506 --> 01:28:46,341 current form. 2322 01:28:46,341 --> 01:28:49,941 I do not believe a car 2323 01:28:49,945 --> 01:28:52,945 allowance is an appropriate use 2324 01:28:54,650 --> 01:28:55,351 of city resources for 2325 01:28:55,351 --> 01:28:56,180 the mayor's d-colo and deputy 2326 01:28:56,180 --> 01:28:59,180 chief of staff especially in 2327 01:28:59,355 --> 01:29:00,550 light of the city facing 2328 01:29:00,550 --> 01:29:02,550 significant fiscal challenges. 2329 01:29:04,927 --> 01:29:09,165 So with that no vote I am happy 2330 01:29:09,165 --> 01:29:09,799 to make a motion to support 2331 01:29:09,799 --> 01:29:10,232 the balance of the agenda. 2332 01:29:10,232 --> 01:29:10,900 >> Thank you. 2333 01:29:10,900 --> 01:29:13,300 Council PRESIDENT All right. 2334 01:29:14,236 --> 01:29:15,700 Thank you Council members. 2335 01:29:15,700 --> 01:29:15,771 So we do have a motion by 2336 01:29:15,771 --> 01:29:18,507 Council member Marino to move 2337 01:29:18,507 --> 01:29:22,107 the consent items and we'll go 2338 01:29:23,912 --> 01:29:24,613 next to myself I guess so 2339 01:29:24,613 --> 01:29:27,613 Councilmember Foster see if I 2340 01:29:28,484 --> 01:29:29,184 can help you out. 2341 01:29:29,184 --> 01:29:32,184 Council PRESIDENT I guess just 2342 01:29:33,122 --> 01:29:33,856 if I MAY if I heard you 2343 01:29:33,856 --> 01:29:34,390 correctly, you said item 50 was 2344 01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:36,790 sent back to staff. 2345 01:29:38,461 --> 01:29:39,128 I did not have that in my notes 2346 01:29:39,128 --> 01:29:42,728 is being sent back to staff. 2347 01:29:42,798 --> 01:29:43,399 Can you let me know why it was 2348 01:29:43,399 --> 01:29:44,166 sent back to staff? 2349 01:29:44,166 --> 01:29:47,102 It might be something changing 2350 01:29:47,102 --> 01:29:50,102 with the item no councilmember 2351 01:29:52,107 --> 01:29:52,875 but with the absences on 2352 01:29:52,875 --> 01:29:53,576 the council today we do have a 2353 01:29:53,576 --> 01:29:56,576 technology in place that will 2354 01:29:57,180 --> 01:29:57,847 ensure no interruption of 2355 01:29:57,847 --> 01:29:58,547 services for that software. 2356 01:29:58,547 --> 01:29:58,848 >> It will return sometime in 2357 01:29:58,848 --> 01:30:00,848 JUNE. 2358 01:30:03,152 --> 01:30:03,853 What is I'm sorry if you can 2359 01:30:03,853 --> 01:30:06,522 clarify what do you mean by 2360 01:30:06,522 --> 01:30:07,223 it's six vote Amazon It's a six 2361 01:30:07,223 --> 01:30:10,223 vote item Council member okay 2362 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:11,494 You didn't pull the salary 2363 01:30:11,494 --> 01:30:13,494 ordinance, correct? 2364 01:30:15,698 --> 01:30:16,365 Not yet. 2365 01:30:16,365 --> 01:30:16,766 >> That that's a charter 2366 01:30:16,766 --> 01:30:17,500 requirement. 2367 01:30:17,500 --> 01:30:21,100 That's a little stickier for us 2368 01:30:23,305 --> 01:30:24,140 but it requires six correct? 2369 01:30:24,140 --> 01:30:24,440 >> I believe it's a five vote 2370 01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:24,973 item. 2371 01:30:24,973 --> 01:30:25,608 Sorry, Is it a five? 2372 01:30:25,608 --> 01:30:27,210 Oh, I thought it said six. 2373 01:30:27,210 --> 01:30:27,610 Okay. 2374 01:30:27,610 --> 01:30:29,610 All righty. 2375 01:30:31,914 --> 01:30:34,914 With that I will second 2376 01:30:37,185 --> 01:30:38,540 the member's motion but I would 2377 01:30:38,540 --> 01:30:38,654 also like to register a no vote 2378 01:30:38,654 --> 01:30:41,491 on as five vote four. 2379 01:30:41,491 --> 01:30:41,858 So thank you Council PRESIDENT. 2380 01:30:41,858 --> 01:30:43,858 All right. 2381 01:30:45,828 --> 01:30:46,429 So to the city attorney, 2382 01:30:46,429 --> 01:30:47,129 the salary ordinance is 2383 01:30:47,129 --> 01:30:49,529 actually a charter requirement 2384 01:30:50,867 --> 01:30:53,867 that mandates that we take 2385 01:30:54,670 --> 01:30:55,404 action before MAY 30th. 2386 01:30:55,404 --> 01:30:58,341 So there's six of us here. 2387 01:30:58,341 --> 01:30:58,641 It looks like there's two no 2388 01:30:58,641 --> 01:30:58,941 votes. 2389 01:30:58,941 --> 01:31:00,941 Okay. 2390 01:31:02,812 --> 01:31:03,479 What's what's next? 2391 01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:04,180 Councilmember Assistant City 2392 01:31:04,180 --> 01:31:04,614 Attorney Jim McNeil thanks for 2393 01:31:04,614 --> 01:31:06,614 the question. 2394 01:31:07,216 --> 01:31:07,884 So yes, under charter Section 2395 01:31:07,884 --> 01:31:10,284 11.1, the council is charged 2396 01:31:12,355 --> 01:31:13,123 with sending the salaries by 2397 01:31:13,123 --> 01:31:16,123 MAY 30th through the salary 2398 01:31:17,193 --> 01:31:18,270 ordinance. 2399 01:31:18,270 --> 01:31:18,695 If it isn't passed by then then 2400 01:31:18,695 --> 01:31:21,950 there's some ripple effects 2401 01:31:21,831 --> 01:31:22,499 that take place because 2402 01:31:22,499 --> 01:31:24,499 the appropriations ordinance 2403 01:31:25,969 --> 01:31:26,603 which was to be passed by JUNE 2404 01:31:26,603 --> 01:31:29,603 30th relies on the adopted 2405 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:30,540 budget and the salary ordinance 2406 01:31:30,540 --> 01:31:31,374 . 2407 01:31:31,374 --> 01:31:32,740 And so in looking at it, if 2408 01:31:32,740 --> 01:31:34,474 it's not passed and 2409 01:31:35,678 --> 01:31:36,379 the appropriation ordinance 2410 01:31:36,379 --> 01:31:37,113 comes forward, we still don't 2411 01:31:37,113 --> 01:31:40,113 have a passed salary ordinance. 2412 01:31:40,550 --> 01:31:41,284 The appropriations ordinance 2413 01:31:41,284 --> 01:31:41,984 would be relying on the salary 2414 01:31:41,984 --> 01:31:44,984 ordinance from last year which 2415 01:31:45,821 --> 01:31:46,489 means that we have an issue of 2416 01:31:46,489 --> 01:31:47,357 trying to deal with the ammo 2417 01:31:47,357 --> 01:31:50,957 use that are coming forward for 2418 01:31:51,428 --> 01:31:52,620 approval by the council and 2419 01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:52,762 being able to actually pay 2420 01:31:52,762 --> 01:31:55,565 under those mou years at that 2421 01:31:55,565 --> 01:31:56,265 point in time What 2422 01:31:56,265 --> 01:31:56,566 the authorization would be for 2423 01:31:56,566 --> 01:31:58,566 that. 2424 01:32:00,537 --> 01:32:01,204 And then I'll add this as a 2425 01:32:01,204 --> 01:32:01,905 second reading so we can't 2426 01:32:01,905 --> 01:32:04,905 change the ordinance which was 2427 01:32:05,408 --> 01:32:06,209 clarified for me because that 2428 01:32:06,209 --> 01:32:09,412 starts to make it a first 2429 01:32:09,412 --> 01:32:10,460 reading Then we'd have to have 2430 01:32:10,460 --> 01:32:10,782 a second reading which we 2431 01:32:10,782 --> 01:32:13,917 cannot do before the end of 2432 01:32:13,917 --> 01:32:14,451 the month, correct? 2433 01:32:14,451 --> 01:32:15,151 Council PRESIDENT So 2434 01:32:15,151 --> 01:32:18,151 the council has already passed 2435 01:32:18,321 --> 01:32:19,890 this once the mayor has 2436 01:32:19,890 --> 01:32:19,723 returned it to council now it's 2437 01:32:19,723 --> 01:32:20,490 up for its second reading. 2438 01:32:20,490 --> 01:32:23,626 If you made any changes it 2439 01:32:23,626 --> 01:32:24,361 would have to be a first 2440 01:32:24,361 --> 01:32:25,610 reading and I think it's pretty 2441 01:32:25,610 --> 01:32:28,610 clear where the council wants 2442 01:32:28,698 --> 01:32:29,432 to make amendments But for 2443 01:32:29,432 --> 01:32:30,100 the JUNE 16th Amendment item to 2444 01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:32,500 incorporate the newly agreed 2445 01:32:34,370 --> 01:32:34,671 upon mou, you can't make an 2446 01:32:34,671 --> 01:32:35,372 amendment there if there's 2447 01:32:35,372 --> 01:32:37,974 nothing to make amendments on 2448 01:32:37,974 --> 01:32:38,575 If we don't pass something 2449 01:32:38,575 --> 01:32:39,750 today there's no future 2450 01:32:39,750 --> 01:32:41,750 decision to make. 2451 01:32:42,745 --> 01:32:43,513 And so I think if something 2452 01:32:43,513 --> 01:32:44,214 fails today and then we go 2453 01:32:44,214 --> 01:32:44,815 forward with introducing a new 2454 01:32:44,815 --> 01:32:46,815 ordinance incorporating 2455 01:32:48,185 --> 01:32:48,985 the council's you know, desired 2456 01:32:48,985 --> 01:32:52,585 amendments, we kind of go into 2457 01:32:52,656 --> 01:32:55,560 uncharted territory here post 2458 01:32:57,861 --> 01:32:58,528 JUNE basically Um I want to 2459 01:32:58,528 --> 01:33:00,928 respect my colleagues are 2460 01:33:02,231 --> 01:33:03,166 voting their conscience. 2461 01:33:03,166 --> 01:33:06,766 I do know that some council 2462 01:33:07,971 --> 01:33:08,638 members MAY show up in this 2463 01:33:08,638 --> 01:33:11,380 afternoon session so unless 2464 01:33:12,743 --> 01:33:13,343 there's any objection I'm going 2465 01:33:13,343 --> 01:33:16,343 to suggest that we trail 2466 01:33:17,581 --> 01:33:18,281 the item So you can vote 2467 01:33:18,281 --> 01:33:19,160 the way that you feel like you 2468 01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:22,319 need to vote And I don't know 2469 01:33:22,319 --> 01:33:23,200 if it'll make a difference this 2470 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:23,887 afternoon but I know at least 2471 01:33:23,887 --> 01:33:27,190 one more council member will be 2472 01:33:27,190 --> 01:33:27,924 attending. 2473 01:33:27,924 --> 01:33:30,924 So again without objection and 2474 01:33:32,496 --> 01:33:33,230 without any protest by the city 2475 01:33:33,230 --> 01:33:36,230 Attorney's office as I navigate 2476 01:33:37,534 --> 01:33:38,402 new waters we will trail as 2477 01:33:38,402 --> 01:33:41,905 504I guess what we'll do is 2478 01:33:41,905 --> 01:33:45,505 pull out 504 and trail it to 2479 01:33:45,876 --> 01:33:46,577 this afternoon and so each 2480 01:33:46,577 --> 01:33:49,577 council member can continue to 2481 01:33:50,980 --> 01:33:51,782 vote their conscience going 2482 01:33:51,782 --> 01:33:52,316 forward and we'll see if we can 2483 01:33:52,316 --> 01:33:54,316 navigate the charter 2484 01:33:56,286 --> 01:33:56,620 requirement and the ripple 2485 01:33:56,620 --> 01:33:57,354 effect. 2486 01:33:57,354 --> 01:34:00,354 So unless there's any objection 2487 01:34:02,225 --> 01:34:02,926 to that, well I mean I'm on 2488 01:34:02,926 --> 01:34:03,694 the list but I don't know if 2489 01:34:03,694 --> 01:34:06,563 you're trailing It means we're 2490 01:34:06,563 --> 01:34:06,897 not commenting on the item 2491 01:34:06,897 --> 01:34:08,897 anymore. 2492 01:34:10,534 --> 01:34:11,301 So I know while I'm I'm happy 2493 01:34:11,301 --> 01:34:12,200 to take any comments but we 2494 01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,200 clearly don't have five votes 2495 01:34:16,540 --> 01:34:17,307 with us today or this morning. 2496 01:34:17,307 --> 01:34:20,307 >> I guess I'd like to 2497 01:34:20,978 --> 01:34:21,645 understand the approach from 2498 01:34:21,645 --> 01:34:22,245 the administration bringing 2499 01:34:22,245 --> 01:34:22,913 this item back this week 2500 01:34:22,913 --> 01:34:25,313 recognizing that there were 2501 01:34:26,750 --> 01:34:30,350 challenges last week and as I 2502 01:34:31,388 --> 01:34:32,122 can tell is the response simply 2503 01:34:32,122 --> 01:34:32,856 that there is not a willingness 2504 01:34:32,856 --> 01:34:35,856 to make any changes and 2505 01:34:36,626 --> 01:34:37,194 therefore I was a desire to 2506 01:34:37,194 --> 01:34:39,594 just test the waters. 2507 01:34:42,990 --> 01:34:42,700 I know someone count them and I 2508 01:34:42,700 --> 01:34:44,700 appreciate the question. 2509 01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:47,171 Pro-Tem potentially it's to 2510 01:34:47,171 --> 01:34:47,738 second reading I can't change 2511 01:34:47,738 --> 01:34:48,438 the item from what was 2512 01:34:48,438 --> 01:34:51,175 originally voted on and passed 2513 01:34:51,175 --> 01:34:52,142 by council several weeks ago 2514 01:34:52,142 --> 01:34:56,647 and so it had to return as is. 2515 01:34:56,647 --> 01:34:57,348 I wasn't anticipating some of 2516 01:34:57,348 --> 01:34:58,480 the absences I guess for today 2517 01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:01,152 and we are also out of council 2518 01:35:01,152 --> 01:35:02,190 meetings for the rest of this 2519 01:35:02,190 --> 01:35:02,820 month knowing that we have to 2520 01:35:02,820 --> 01:35:05,756 have something voted on and 2521 01:35:05,756 --> 01:35:06,524 passed by MAY 30th. 2522 01:35:06,524 --> 01:35:07,124 If I could just interject also 2523 01:35:07,124 --> 01:35:10,124 it's a timing issue with 2524 01:35:10,494 --> 01:35:11,295 respect to what it's coming 2525 01:35:11,295 --> 01:35:12,163 back for which is which is set 2526 01:35:12,163 --> 01:35:15,763 up in this current imo this 2527 01:35:16,233 --> 01:35:16,901 current salary ordinance is 2528 01:35:16,901 --> 01:35:17,568 the fact that we have menus 2529 01:35:17,568 --> 01:35:20,905 that are in process that are 2530 01:35:20,905 --> 01:35:21,706 being approved and so it's 2531 01:35:21,706 --> 01:35:22,306 going to have to be changed. 2532 01:35:22,306 --> 01:35:23,730 It's noted in the salary 2533 01:35:23,730 --> 01:35:25,810 ordinance to adapt to those 2534 01:35:25,810 --> 01:35:26,510 employees and so it has to be 2535 01:35:26,510 --> 01:35:30,110 brought back at that point in 2536 01:35:31,150 --> 01:35:31,816 time for an amendment And so if 2537 01:35:31,816 --> 01:35:32,483 you pass it now and you have 2538 01:35:32,483 --> 01:35:35,483 commitment at the same time 2539 01:35:35,986 --> 01:35:36,786 the ammo user brought back any 2540 01:35:36,786 --> 01:35:37,455 of the amendments that you want 2541 01:35:37,455 --> 01:35:37,888 can be brought back at that 2542 01:35:37,888 --> 01:35:38,522 point in time. 2543 01:35:38,522 --> 01:35:40,157 But in the meantime you've 2544 01:35:40,157 --> 01:35:43,157 passed a salary ordinance in 2545 01:35:45,162 --> 01:35:45,830 compliance with the charter and 2546 01:35:45,830 --> 01:35:46,530 there's at least two if not 2547 01:35:46,530 --> 01:35:48,930 three members that were 2548 01:35:50,301 --> 01:35:51,202 anticipated to be present this 2549 01:35:51,202 --> 01:35:54,802 morning that are not here for 2550 01:35:55,606 --> 01:35:56,240 various personal reasons. 2551 01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,240 >> I understand that. 2552 01:36:00,978 --> 01:36:01,646 But I think implication in that 2553 01:36:01,646 --> 01:36:04,646 front is that somehow we're 2554 01:36:05,183 --> 01:36:05,816 here because either people are 2555 01:36:05,816 --> 01:36:06,484 voting their conscience or 2556 01:36:06,484 --> 01:36:09,484 because they're unable to be 2557 01:36:10,540 --> 01:36:13,540 here for whatever reason And 2558 01:36:15,893 --> 01:36:16,594 and frankly some I don't I 2559 01:36:16,594 --> 01:36:17,294 don't think it's as simple as 2560 01:36:17,294 --> 01:36:20,294 just saying our colleagues are 2561 01:36:21,132 --> 01:36:21,799 the ones that are leading us to 2562 01:36:21,799 --> 01:36:22,467 this position if we're just 2563 01:36:22,467 --> 01:36:23,167 going to see the same thing 2564 01:36:23,167 --> 01:36:26,167 brought forward over and over 2565 01:36:26,236 --> 01:36:26,903 again and to see the same 2566 01:36:26,903 --> 01:36:27,205 issues come up over and over 2567 01:36:27,205 --> 01:36:27,939 again. 2568 01:36:27,939 --> 01:36:31,242 So I understand that that we're 2569 01:36:31,242 --> 01:36:32,430 going to argue that we can't 2570 01:36:32,430 --> 01:36:32,476 make a change in a second 2571 01:36:32,476 --> 01:36:33,143 reading Fine. 2572 01:36:33,143 --> 01:36:35,113 We've made changes in second 2573 01:36:35,113 --> 01:36:35,784 readings and brought them back 2574 01:36:35,784 --> 01:36:36,213 for a second reading to get 2575 01:36:36,213 --> 01:36:36,914 them approved. 2576 01:36:36,914 --> 01:36:41,114 We knew this was a problem a 2577 01:36:41,352 --> 01:36:45,560 week ago so I you know we can 2578 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:45,757 get this look as if no one 2579 01:36:45,757 --> 01:36:46,357 cares that that's the case But 2580 01:36:46,357 --> 01:36:47,580 I don't think that's an 2581 01:36:47,580 --> 01:36:49,458 acceptable response from what 2582 01:36:50,328 --> 01:36:51,195 we're seeing. 2583 01:36:51,195 --> 01:36:52,620 Council Member If I could just 2584 01:36:52,620 --> 01:36:55,662 again maybe I wasn't clear in 2585 01:36:56,134 --> 01:36:56,768 terms of even if we made 2586 01:36:56,768 --> 01:36:57,435 the change today and then 2587 01:36:57,435 --> 01:37:01,350 brought it back to a second 2588 01:37:02,206 --> 01:37:02,840 reading, we still have to come 2589 01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:03,441 back and make an amendment 2590 01:37:03,441 --> 01:37:04,750 again for the employees. 2591 01:37:04,750 --> 01:37:07,675 And so the notion was just 2592 01:37:07,679 --> 01:37:08,379 doing it once. 2593 01:37:08,379 --> 01:37:09,800 I totally, totally understand 2594 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:09,747 that that was always the case. 2595 01:37:09,747 --> 01:37:10,482 That's part of the process. 2596 01:37:10,482 --> 01:37:13,170 We're going to hear this again. 2597 01:37:13,170 --> 01:37:13,717 I think what I heard was that 2598 01:37:13,717 --> 01:37:14,419 if all else fails and nothing 2599 01:37:14,419 --> 01:37:15,190 happens we'll be in uncharted 2600 01:37:15,190 --> 01:37:17,419 territory and will bring 2601 01:37:17,555 --> 01:37:18,256 forward a new salary ordinance 2602 01:37:18,256 --> 01:37:21,256 for consideration in that JUNE 2603 01:37:22,994 --> 01:37:23,528 meeting Not a not a amendment 2604 01:37:23,528 --> 01:37:24,128 to the existing one. 2605 01:37:24,128 --> 01:37:24,829 So either way I assume 2606 01:37:24,829 --> 01:37:27,829 something is going to get 2607 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:29,200 brought forward in JUNE. 2608 01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:29,767 Where it differs from 2609 01:37:29,767 --> 01:37:30,467 the charter I think is 2610 01:37:30,467 --> 01:37:34,667 the issue that that we seem to 2611 01:37:37,375 --> 01:37:38,760 be at So I have additional 2612 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:38,709 thoughts but I don't think is 2613 01:37:38,709 --> 01:37:40,709 particularly relevant will 2614 01:37:41,580 --> 01:37:42,247 trail or pull this item and 2615 01:37:42,247 --> 01:37:45,247 bring it back this afternoon 2616 01:37:46,885 --> 01:37:47,452 and see if there is a outcome 2617 01:37:47,452 --> 01:37:50,452 one way or the other. 2618 01:37:50,587 --> 01:37:51,322 >> All right. 2619 01:37:51,322 --> 01:37:53,722 >> People continue to vote 2620 01:37:57,262 --> 01:37:58,130 their conscience. 2621 01:37:58,130 --> 01:38:01,650 Let's say we did have a motion 2622 01:38:01,650 --> 01:38:01,800 by Councilmember Moreno and a 2623 01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:02,500 second by Councilmember Foster. 2624 01:38:02,500 --> 01:38:03,100 Was there any other comment on 2625 01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:05,100 the consent items? 2626 01:38:06,504 --> 01:38:07,472 I'll make? 2627 01:38:07,472 --> 01:38:10,775 I'm not seeing any I'll make a 2628 01:38:10,775 --> 01:38:11,750 quick comment on item one, two, 2629 01:38:11,750 --> 01:38:11,877 three. 2630 01:38:11,877 --> 01:38:14,877 And some of my colleagues 2631 01:38:16,747 --> 01:38:17,415 highlighted thank you to Parks 2632 01:38:17,415 --> 01:38:18,830 and Rec staff and the Single 2633 01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:18,683 Parks Foundation for working 2634 01:38:18,683 --> 01:38:20,683 together and delivering 2635 01:38:21,386 --> 01:38:21,987 community events programs on 2636 01:38:21,987 --> 01:38:22,621 park improvements across 2637 01:38:22,621 --> 01:38:25,621 the city as was mentioned 2638 01:38:26,725 --> 01:38:27,392 programs and range from 2639 01:38:27,392 --> 01:38:28,126 the basketball backboards to 2640 01:38:28,126 --> 01:38:31,126 summer long programs like Parks 2641 01:38:32,730 --> 01:38:33,264 and After Dark there's all of 2642 01:38:33,264 --> 01:38:33,864 the things and again 2643 01:38:33,864 --> 01:38:34,399 the increased enjoyment 2644 01:38:34,399 --> 01:38:34,966 engagement with our 2645 01:38:34,966 --> 01:38:36,966 neighborhood parks and 2646 01:38:37,702 --> 01:38:38,403 recreation centers as we create 2647 01:38:38,403 --> 01:38:39,237 safe places for all San Diego. 2648 01:38:39,237 --> 01:38:42,740 And once again thank you to 2649 01:38:42,740 --> 01:38:43,407 the Parks Foundation and 2650 01:38:43,407 --> 01:38:44,109 the donors for improving our 2651 01:38:44,109 --> 01:38:46,509 parks and recreation centers. 2652 01:38:48,980 --> 01:38:49,614 >> So we have. 2653 01:38:49,614 --> 01:38:50,315 Item 50 was previously 2654 01:38:50,315 --> 01:38:53,315 the Budget Committee and have 2655 01:38:54,620 --> 01:38:55,587 been returned to staff items 2656 01:38:55,587 --> 01:38:59,187 504 has been pulled and will be 2657 01:39:00,250 --> 01:39:00,592 trailed to the afternoon 2658 01:39:00,592 --> 01:39:01,193 session But we have on 2659 01:39:01,193 --> 01:39:04,193 the balance a motion by 2660 01:39:05,163 --> 01:39:05,897 Councilmember Moreno and a 2661 01:39:05,897 --> 01:39:08,297 second by Councilmember Foster. 2662 01:39:10,869 --> 01:39:13,869 So please call the roll. 2663 01:39:15,730 --> 01:39:15,407 This is being a bit wonky today 2664 01:39:15,407 --> 01:39:16,375 . 2665 01:39:16,375 --> 01:39:19,375 >> Thank you for casting your 2666 01:39:22,814 --> 01:39:23,482 votes that passes unanimously 6 2667 01:39:23,482 --> 01:39:23,815 to 0 with Councilmember Eli 2668 01:39:23,815 --> 01:39:24,383 Rivera. 2669 01:39:24,383 --> 01:39:26,383 Councilmember Campeon 2670 01:39:27,385 --> 01:39:28,870 Councilmember Von Wilpert 2671 01:39:28,870 --> 01:39:28,721 absent and item five of were 2672 01:39:28,721 --> 01:39:31,121 trailed to the afternoon. 2673 01:39:32,623 --> 01:39:33,325 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 2674 01:39:33,325 --> 01:39:34,193 right thank you City Clerk Do 2675 01:39:34,193 --> 01:39:37,793 we have any comments by mayoral 2676 01:39:38,630 --> 01:39:38,730 office, Council members, City 2677 01:39:38,730 --> 01:39:40,730 attorney Independent budget 2678 01:39:42,801 --> 01:39:43,602 analyst or city Clerk not 2679 01:39:43,602 --> 01:39:46,602 hearing any requests We will 2680 01:39:48,707 --> 01:39:49,241 now take up knowledge of 2681 01:39:49,241 --> 01:39:49,907 the public comment. 2682 01:39:49,907 --> 01:39:50,642 Council members respect and 2683 01:39:50,642 --> 01:39:53,642 appreciate the public input are 2684 01:39:54,346 --> 01:39:55,800 fully committed to protecting 2685 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:55,814 every participant's free speech 2686 01:39:55,814 --> 01:39:58,350 rights at council and committee 2687 01:39:58,350 --> 01:39:59,217 meetings with that clerk. 2688 01:39:59,217 --> 01:40:01,617 >> Please proceed with public 2689 01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:05,557 comment. 2690 01:40:05,557 --> 01:40:06,158 Thank you Council PRESIDENT For 2691 01:40:06,158 --> 01:40:06,859 all 2.7 on agenda Public 2692 01:40:06,859 --> 01:40:07,459 comment is an opportunity for 2693 01:40:07,459 --> 01:40:10,459 members of the public to 2694 01:40:10,829 --> 01:40:11,429 comment on items that are not 2695 01:40:11,429 --> 01:40:12,164 on the agenda but within 2696 01:40:12,164 --> 01:40:12,698 the subject matter jurisdiction 2697 01:40:12,698 --> 01:40:15,980 of the City Council. 2698 01:40:16,201 --> 01:40:16,535 Each speaker will have two 2699 01:40:16,535 --> 01:40:17,236 minutes. 2700 01:40:17,236 --> 01:40:17,903 Please know if there are eight 2701 01:40:17,903 --> 01:40:21,600 or more speakers on a single 2702 01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:21,707 topic the maximum time for 2703 01:40:21,707 --> 01:40:22,374 the topic will be 16 minutes. 2704 01:40:22,374 --> 01:40:23,800 If you're in chambers please 2705 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:23,709 submit your speaker slip. 2706 01:40:23,709 --> 01:40:26,312 If you're joining us virtually 2707 01:40:26,312 --> 01:40:27,120 please raise your hand to speak 2708 01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:30,316 by tapping the raise your hand 2709 01:40:30,316 --> 01:40:31,500 icon now or the call 2710 01:40:31,500 --> 01:40:32,251 participant Star nine Gene Wong 2711 01:40:32,251 --> 01:40:35,851 if you can please come forward. 2712 01:40:41,660 --> 01:40:44,660 >> You'll have two minutes for 2713 01:40:48,266 --> 01:40:48,701 your Thank you all for having 2714 01:40:48,701 --> 01:40:49,401 me here today. 2715 01:40:49,401 --> 01:40:50,135 Yesterday was a very hard day 2716 01:40:50,135 --> 01:40:52,972 and I just want to acknowledge 2717 01:40:52,972 --> 01:40:53,504 that it's not what I'm talking 2718 01:40:53,504 --> 01:40:54,206 about today though. 2719 01:40:54,206 --> 01:40:56,606 Let's talk about transparency. 2720 01:40:58,844 --> 01:40:59,511 I really thought that morning 2721 01:40:59,511 --> 01:41:00,179 was going to be here today 2722 01:41:00,179 --> 01:41:02,579 because apparently love that 2723 01:41:03,882 --> 01:41:04,549 word at city hall right now 2724 01:41:04,549 --> 01:41:04,917 Transparency, accountability 2725 01:41:04,917 --> 01:41:05,417 and trust. 2726 01:41:05,417 --> 01:41:07,817 So let's do that. 2727 01:41:10,122 --> 01:41:10,756 So my question was actually for 2728 01:41:10,756 --> 01:41:11,390 COUNCILWOMAN Marni Wilpert 2729 01:41:11,390 --> 01:41:11,990 According to reports and a 2730 01:41:11,990 --> 01:41:13,990 settlement agreement now 2731 01:41:15,561 --> 01:41:16,262 publicly circulating, taxpayers 2732 01:41:16,262 --> 01:41:16,829 paid $50,000 over disputes and 2733 01:41:16,829 --> 01:41:18,829 controversies in more 2734 01:41:21,330 --> 01:41:21,500 meaningful involving her former 2735 01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:22,301 chief of staff. 2736 01:41:22,301 --> 01:41:25,301 Our taxpayer money Our taxpayer 2737 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:27,540 money and allegations tied to 2738 01:41:27,540 --> 01:41:28,174 this are not pretty. 2739 01:41:28,174 --> 01:41:28,774 Reports and witnesses are 2740 01:41:28,774 --> 01:41:31,174 alleging an employee was 2741 01:41:33,212 --> 01:41:33,913 battling cancer while fired 2742 01:41:33,913 --> 01:41:34,447 while taking care of her time 2743 01:41:34,447 --> 01:41:36,447 off of chemotherapy. 2744 01:41:39,318 --> 01:41:40,190 Now maybe that's not true. 2745 01:41:40,190 --> 01:41:40,686 Maybe there's more context and 2746 01:41:40,686 --> 01:41:44,490 I would love for her to have 2747 01:41:44,490 --> 01:41:45,324 and I wish she was here because 2748 01:41:45,324 --> 01:41:46,240 I would love for an opportunity 2749 01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:46,659 to speak to this because right 2750 01:41:46,659 --> 01:41:49,659 now the public gets stuck 2751 01:41:49,962 --> 01:41:50,630 paying a bill while the details 2752 01:41:50,630 --> 01:41:51,297 disappear Behind settlement 2753 01:41:51,297 --> 01:41:54,297 language and pr cleanup You 2754 01:41:55,301 --> 01:41:56,102 can't stand and brand yourself 2755 01:41:56,102 --> 01:41:56,736 as a health care advocate and 2756 01:41:56,736 --> 01:41:57,436 protector of workers while 2757 01:41:57,436 --> 01:41:59,836 people are reading allegations 2758 01:42:01,907 --> 01:42:02,608 that someone in your own office 2759 01:42:02,608 --> 01:42:03,242 got pushed out while literally 2760 01:42:03,242 --> 01:42:05,642 fighting cancer That's not 2761 01:42:08,181 --> 01:42:08,848 working protection That's 2762 01:42:08,848 --> 01:42:09,766 the exact kind of political 2763 01:42:09,766 --> 01:42:09,969 behavior that people are 2764 01:42:09,969 --> 01:42:11,969 exhausted by. 2765 01:42:13,820 --> 01:42:14,520 And honestly this is why we've 2766 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:15,254 lost trust in our government. 2767 01:42:15,254 --> 01:42:15,922 Regular people don't get golden 2768 01:42:15,922 --> 01:42:17,922 parachutes and confidential 2769 01:42:20,126 --> 01:42:20,459 settlements when they screw up 2770 01:42:20,459 --> 01:42:21,930 at work. 2771 01:42:21,930 --> 01:42:21,794 Regular people get fired. 2772 01:42:21,794 --> 01:42:24,194 But somehow elected officials 2773 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:26,732 always seem to find taxpayer 2774 01:42:26,732 --> 01:42:27,433 money when things get messy. 2775 01:42:27,433 --> 01:42:30,433 San Diegans can barely afford 2776 01:42:31,738 --> 01:42:32,438 groceries but somehow we can 2777 01:42:32,438 --> 01:42:33,172 afford $50,000 settlement tied 2778 01:42:33,172 --> 01:42:36,772 to alleged misconduct of a city 2779 01:42:37,477 --> 01:42:38,177 council office And now she 2780 01:42:38,177 --> 01:42:38,878 wants a promotion to Congress 2781 01:42:38,878 --> 01:42:41,878 before asking for more power, 2782 01:42:43,950 --> 01:42:44,584 more staff clean your own house 2783 01:42:44,584 --> 01:42:45,218 first because transparency 2784 01:42:45,218 --> 01:42:47,618 doesn't count when you're 2785 01:42:50,123 --> 01:42:50,423 pointing fingers at everybody 2786 01:42:50,423 --> 01:42:51,224 else. 2787 01:42:51,224 --> 01:42:51,557 >> It counts when the light is 2788 01:42:51,557 --> 01:42:52,158 on you. 2789 01:42:52,158 --> 01:42:53,960 Thank you all so much. 2790 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:54,827 I appreciate you Sharrock so 2791 01:42:54,827 --> 01:42:58,427 that if you can please come 2792 01:43:07,507 --> 01:43:08,274 forward. 2793 01:43:08,274 --> 01:43:08,708 Well my name is Sherry 2794 01:43:08,708 --> 01:43:10,708 Accelerometer. 2795 01:43:12,845 --> 01:43:15,845 I reside at 3713 Mount Ashland 2796 01:43:18,218 --> 01:43:18,918 Place and 92111 that I brought 2797 01:43:18,918 --> 01:43:19,886 some paperwork here with me to 2798 01:43:19,886 --> 01:43:24,860 to lead to live here with you 2799 01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:25,125 guys So one is a copy of 2800 01:43:25,125 --> 01:43:25,792 the building permit for my home 2801 01:43:25,792 --> 01:43:29,295 for the address that I just 2802 01:43:29,295 --> 01:43:30,163 read. 2803 01:43:30,163 --> 01:43:30,697 It was built back by a man 2804 01:43:30,697 --> 01:43:32,697 named Harry Summers. 2805 01:43:35,201 --> 01:43:35,735 He used a fake address for his 2806 01:43:35,735 --> 01:43:36,436 contact information. 2807 01:43:36,436 --> 01:43:37,700 I checked with the city permit 2808 01:43:37,700 --> 01:43:40,700 department and there is no 2809 01:43:41,341 --> 01:43:41,808 history for issuing a permit 2810 01:43:41,808 --> 01:43:42,509 for 4430 Street. 2811 01:43:42,509 --> 01:43:45,509 And I also checked with 2812 01:43:46,947 --> 01:43:47,714 the county tax collectors. 2813 01:43:47,714 --> 01:43:48,314 There's no history of ever 2814 01:43:48,314 --> 01:43:48,682 collecting tax for that 2815 01:43:48,682 --> 01:43:50,682 property. 2816 01:43:53,119 --> 01:43:53,486 A lot of things are wrong with 2817 01:43:53,486 --> 01:43:54,187 the house. 2818 01:43:54,187 --> 01:43:55,550 One of them is a huge concern 2819 01:43:55,550 --> 01:43:58,655 is a rectangular box in my 2820 01:43:58,925 --> 01:43:59,659 garage. 2821 01:43:59,659 --> 01:44:00,600 It's attached to the ceiling of 2822 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,600 the garage. 2823 01:44:04,698 --> 01:44:05,598 It has eight electrical cables 2824 01:44:05,598 --> 01:44:06,232 ,wires, a gas pipe and two 2825 01:44:06,232 --> 01:44:06,566 water pipes inserted into 2826 01:44:06,566 --> 01:44:08,566 the box. 2827 01:44:10,837 --> 01:44:11,504 The box is about 8 to 10ft long 2828 01:44:11,504 --> 01:44:15,104 and it's connected to a dock 2829 01:44:16,509 --> 01:44:17,177 box which is connected to 2830 01:44:17,177 --> 01:44:17,877 the furnace of the house And 2831 01:44:17,877 --> 01:44:21,477 that dock box is connected to 2832 01:44:22,515 --> 01:44:26,715 another dog box via a duck tube 2833 01:44:28,254 --> 01:44:29,550 And I have pictures of those I 2834 01:44:29,550 --> 01:44:32,655 have brought with me to leave 2835 01:44:35,629 --> 01:44:36,329 out for the record duck box one 2836 01:44:36,329 --> 01:44:38,799 of the duck boxes it's 100in 2837 01:44:38,799 --> 01:44:39,265 above ground level and it 2838 01:44:39,265 --> 01:44:39,966 stands at 33in. 2839 01:44:39,966 --> 01:44:43,566 It doesn't have a bottom and 2840 01:44:44,604 --> 01:44:45,572 one of the sidewalls is missing 2841 01:44:45,572 --> 01:44:45,939 about a foot away from it is a 2842 01:44:45,939 --> 01:44:47,939 duck tube. 2843 01:44:48,975 --> 01:44:49,676 It's just hanging down Again 2844 01:44:49,676 --> 01:44:49,976 it's about 100in above ground 2845 01:44:49,976 --> 01:44:50,744 level. 2846 01:44:50,744 --> 01:44:54,344 All of these are connected to 2847 01:44:55,182 --> 01:44:55,649 the box and have the gas pipe 2848 01:44:55,649 --> 01:44:57,649 leaked into it. 2849 01:44:59,452 --> 01:45:00,220 We got this house in 1979 and 2850 01:45:00,220 --> 01:45:00,987 as a child growing up in that 2851 01:45:00,987 --> 01:45:03,987 house always smelled gas and 2852 01:45:05,525 --> 01:45:05,859 frequently things of that 2853 01:45:05,859 --> 01:45:06,526 nature. 2854 01:45:06,526 --> 01:45:07,940 >> But the people that built 2855 01:45:07,940 --> 01:45:09,494 the house and designed 2856 01:45:11,832 --> 01:45:12,199 the house MAY I continue? 2857 01:45:12,199 --> 01:45:12,800 >> No. 2858 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:13,166 I'm sorry your time has 2859 01:45:13,166 --> 01:45:13,767 concluded. 2860 01:45:13,767 --> 01:45:14,434 If you have any written 2861 01:45:14,434 --> 01:45:16,834 comments we could definitely 2862 01:45:18,472 --> 01:45:19,206 distribute that and we can make 2863 01:45:19,206 --> 01:45:19,673 sure that gets into the record. 2864 01:45:19,673 --> 01:45:20,640 I don't have to. 2865 01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:23,210 Yes I will go down there and 2866 01:45:23,210 --> 01:45:24,440 get it. 2867 01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:24,711 I started the five and a timer 2868 01:45:24,711 --> 01:45:25,780 going to those participating 2869 01:45:25,780 --> 01:45:27,780 remotely. 2870 01:45:28,114 --> 01:45:28,815 We currently have ten speakers 2871 01:45:28,815 --> 01:45:32,415 in the queue Blair Beckman if 2872 01:45:33,687 --> 01:45:37,287 you can please and you All 2873 01:45:39,260 --> 01:45:39,760 right we're Beakman thanks for 2874 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:40,527 the meeting today. 2875 01:45:40,527 --> 01:45:44,727 It's a sad time Like I said 2876 01:45:45,432 --> 01:45:46,100 previously you know the work we 2877 01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:49,100 do as local government, as 2878 01:45:51,205 --> 01:45:51,705 community together it's usually 2879 01:45:51,705 --> 01:45:52,405 a labor of love. 2880 01:45:52,405 --> 01:45:53,373 You know we disagree on issues 2881 01:45:53,373 --> 01:45:57,344 but now when we get into our 2882 01:45:57,344 --> 01:45:57,878 work it's just it's we're doing 2883 01:45:57,878 --> 01:46:00,278 our love, you know? 2884 01:46:02,549 --> 01:46:03,283 And it's sad that this incident 2885 01:46:03,283 --> 01:46:06,883 is happening and that the young 2886 01:46:08,789 --> 01:46:09,523 people can better understand 2887 01:46:09,523 --> 01:46:10,257 concepts of love in the future. 2888 01:46:10,257 --> 01:46:14,457 I think they do have their own 2889 01:46:14,495 --> 01:46:15,195 concept of love and it's I 2890 01:46:15,195 --> 01:46:15,930 think probably a little out of 2891 01:46:15,930 --> 01:46:16,596 whack And I mean we really have 2892 01:46:16,596 --> 01:46:19,596 to learn concepts, you know, 2893 01:46:21,701 --> 01:46:22,370 like covid 19 Somebody has some 2894 01:46:22,370 --> 01:46:25,370 great design to do something 2895 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:27,441 beautiful for our humanity 2896 01:46:27,441 --> 01:46:28,142 human future but we don't have 2897 01:46:28,142 --> 01:46:28,509 to kill each other in order to 2898 01:46:28,509 --> 01:46:30,509 get there. 2899 01:46:32,947 --> 01:46:33,546 And that's an important lesson 2900 01:46:33,546 --> 01:46:34,215 I hope we're learning. 2901 01:46:34,215 --> 01:46:34,982 i think we've actually made 2902 01:46:34,982 --> 01:46:37,982 strides in working on gun 2903 01:46:39,420 --> 01:46:40,120 issues and gun violence with 2904 01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:40,821 young people and this incident 2905 01:46:40,821 --> 01:46:43,821 happened yesterday can be kind 2906 01:46:45,426 --> 01:46:46,293 of an end. 2907 01:46:46,293 --> 01:46:46,927 Hopefully we can really see it 2908 01:46:46,927 --> 01:46:47,627 as a beginning of an end. 2909 01:46:47,627 --> 01:46:51,227 You know, I think young people 2910 01:46:51,298 --> 01:46:51,932 are better understanding that, 2911 01:46:51,932 --> 01:46:52,633 you know, this is possibly 2912 01:46:52,633 --> 01:46:53,300 going to create more violence, 2913 01:46:53,300 --> 01:46:55,700 more you know, surveillance 2914 01:46:57,671 --> 01:46:58,405 tech laws. 2915 01:46:58,405 --> 01:46:59,106 Hopefully we're not going to go 2916 01:46:59,106 --> 01:46:59,807 in that route And everybody's 2917 01:46:59,807 --> 01:47:03,310 keeping a cool head about what 2918 01:47:03,310 --> 01:47:03,844 to do with this time And we 2919 01:47:03,844 --> 01:47:06,244 work on our issues. 2920 01:47:09,617 --> 01:47:10,251 We continue the practices of 2921 01:47:10,251 --> 01:47:10,951 love, negotiation, working 2922 01:47:10,951 --> 01:47:15,151 together And I think we can do 2923 01:47:16,490 --> 01:47:17,570 that on a number of issues and 2924 01:47:17,570 --> 01:47:17,625 different parts of our 2925 01:47:17,625 --> 01:47:18,259 community or religious 2926 01:47:18,259 --> 01:47:20,659 communities of San Diego. 2927 01:47:21,996 --> 01:47:22,697 It's really a time in in 2928 01:47:22,697 --> 01:47:23,399 figuring out the ways how we 2929 01:47:23,399 --> 01:47:24,650 can work together And I think 2930 01:47:24,650 --> 01:47:27,665 there is good ways and good 2931 01:47:27,667 --> 01:47:28,369 luck how we can be doing that. 2932 01:47:28,369 --> 01:47:29,360 Thanks for the meeting today. 2933 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:29,703 Thanks for the words of Tony 2934 01:47:29,703 --> 01:47:32,703 and other people that we're 2935 01:47:34,410 --> 01:47:34,675 trying to be helpful and 2936 01:47:34,675 --> 01:47:35,308 constructive and hopefully 2937 01:47:35,308 --> 01:47:36,100 those good voices won't be 2938 01:47:36,100 --> 01:47:39,100 marginalized and heard at this 2939 01:47:39,346 --> 01:47:39,814 time. 2940 01:47:39,814 --> 01:47:40,414 Thank you. 2941 01:47:40,414 --> 01:47:42,814 Next is Conner Conner. 2942 01:47:46,386 --> 01:47:47,155 If you can please. 2943 01:47:47,155 --> 01:47:47,822 I mean after that will be 2944 01:47:47,822 --> 01:47:48,255 Catherine's and pick you up. 2945 01:47:48,255 --> 01:47:50,255 Oh, thank you. 2946 01:47:50,992 --> 01:47:51,458 Clark, this is Conner from 2947 01:47:51,458 --> 01:47:52,360 District three. 2948 01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:55,663 I want to start by offering my 2949 01:47:55,663 --> 01:47:56,364 condolences to the families of 2950 01:47:56,364 --> 01:47:57,980 the three individuals who were 2951 01:47:57,980 --> 01:47:57,732 killed yesterday in yet another 2952 01:47:57,732 --> 01:48:00,732 act of violence, hatred or 2953 01:48:01,869 --> 01:48:02,436 harassment against members of 2954 01:48:02,436 --> 01:48:03,104 the Muslim and Jewish 2955 01:48:03,104 --> 01:48:06,104 communities in this city and 2956 01:48:07,208 --> 01:48:07,842 across the country more broadly 2957 01:48:07,842 --> 01:48:08,576 We've heard testimony from 2958 01:48:08,576 --> 01:48:09,177 members of those communities at 2959 01:48:09,177 --> 01:48:09,911 city council meetings in 2960 01:48:09,911 --> 01:48:13,747 the past and some of the things 2961 01:48:13,747 --> 01:48:14,314 we've heard are just truly 2962 01:48:14,314 --> 01:48:15,160 horrific And when left 2963 01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:15,616 unchecked, I'm afraid that can 2964 01:48:15,616 --> 01:48:18,616 lead to events like what 2965 01:48:20,822 --> 01:48:21,522 occurred yesterday. 2966 01:48:21,522 --> 01:48:22,190 Now it's gotten exponentially 2967 01:48:22,190 --> 01:48:22,924 worse since OCTOBER 7th And 2968 01:48:22,924 --> 01:48:25,360 the cause war MAY be a conflict 2969 01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:26,260 that's occurring halfway across 2970 01:48:26,260 --> 01:48:26,761 the world but we're feeling 2971 01:48:26,761 --> 01:48:27,610 the repercussions of it here at 2972 01:48:27,610 --> 01:48:27,761 home. 2973 01:48:27,761 --> 01:48:30,761 I genuinely believe that each 2974 01:48:31,399 --> 01:48:32,100 additional dollar that we add 2975 01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:32,734 of American taxpayer money to 2976 01:48:32,734 --> 01:48:35,134 this conflict makes things 2977 01:48:36,471 --> 01:48:37,438 worse and not better. 2978 01:48:37,438 --> 01:48:38,105 And in that respect I do want 2979 01:48:38,105 --> 01:48:38,773 to express my disappointment 2980 01:48:38,773 --> 01:48:41,773 although I don't think she's 2981 01:48:44,450 --> 01:48:44,612 here with the council member 2982 01:48:44,612 --> 01:48:45,313 from District five for 2983 01:48:45,313 --> 01:48:45,647 accepting an endorsement from 2984 01:48:45,647 --> 01:48:47,647 the mfi. 2985 01:48:49,617 --> 01:48:50,284 This is of course an 2986 01:48:50,284 --> 01:48:50,918 organization that is calling 2987 01:48:50,918 --> 01:48:53,918 for yet another multi year 2988 01:48:55,423 --> 01:48:56,240 multibillion dollar mou of 2989 01:48:56,240 --> 01:48:56,657 the us sending military 2990 01:48:56,657 --> 01:48:56,990 assistance to the state of 2991 01:48:56,990 --> 01:48:58,990 Israel. 2992 01:49:01,262 --> 01:49:01,963 And again I really think this 2993 01:49:01,963 --> 01:49:02,430 is going to make things worse 2994 01:49:02,430 --> 01:49:03,300 and not better. 2995 01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:03,765 I would encourage her to 2996 01:49:03,765 --> 01:49:06,765 reconsider her position on that 2997 01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:07,635 issue To the Council more 2998 01:49:07,635 --> 01:49:08,336 broadly I would encourage 2999 01:49:08,336 --> 01:49:09,370 members to consider what they 3000 01:49:09,370 --> 01:49:12,637 can personally do to help fix 3001 01:49:13,341 --> 01:49:14,750 the broken poisonous political 3002 01:49:14,750 --> 01:49:17,675 culture of this country to help 3003 01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:19,380 lower the temperature and to 3004 01:49:19,380 --> 01:49:20,810 allow us to have robust, 3005 01:49:20,810 --> 01:49:20,715 meaningful, productive debates 3006 01:49:20,715 --> 01:49:23,715 on issues that are really 3007 01:49:24,819 --> 01:49:25,520 important and that need to be 3008 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,920 discussed without it careening 3009 01:49:30,959 --> 01:49:31,692 off into hatred, invective and 3010 01:49:31,692 --> 01:49:32,226 in potentially up to the loss 3011 01:49:32,226 --> 01:49:32,894 of life like we saw. 3012 01:49:32,894 --> 01:49:33,428 We can't afford to continue 3013 01:49:33,428 --> 01:49:35,828 with the status quo. 3014 01:49:36,998 --> 01:49:37,732 We can't afford to have more 3015 01:49:37,732 --> 01:49:38,333 people more innocent people die 3016 01:49:38,333 --> 01:49:41,333 overseas and in our own 3017 01:49:43,338 --> 01:49:44,710 community here at home And I 3018 01:49:44,710 --> 01:49:44,773 would encourage council members 3019 01:49:44,773 --> 01:49:45,406 to consider what they could do 3020 01:49:45,406 --> 01:49:45,774 to help curb some of that. 3021 01:49:45,774 --> 01:49:47,774 Thank you. 3022 01:49:50,440 --> 01:49:50,745 Thank you. 3023 01:49:50,745 --> 01:49:51,346 Next is Katherine Rhodes and 3024 01:49:51,346 --> 01:49:51,846 after that is Becky Rep 3025 01:49:51,846 --> 01:49:53,846 Katherine Rhodes. 3026 01:49:54,916 --> 01:49:55,684 Please email. 3027 01:49:55,684 --> 01:49:56,384 >> Hello, this is Katherine 3028 01:49:56,384 --> 01:49:56,785 Rhodes, our council PRESIDENT 3029 01:49:56,785 --> 01:49:58,785 Joe LaCava. 3030 01:50:01,289 --> 01:50:01,957 Mary Todd Gloria the city 3031 01:50:01,957 --> 01:50:02,657 attorney and the rb working 3032 01:50:02,657 --> 01:50:06,257 with expedia.Com and or other 3033 01:50:06,895 --> 01:50:07,596 online travel companies to 3034 01:50:07,596 --> 01:50:08,229 undermine the City Council and 3035 01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:11,229 the Rules Committee by not 3036 01:50:12,633 --> 01:50:13,501 allowing the public hearing to 3037 01:50:13,501 --> 01:50:15,501 repatriate the 20% to 34% 3038 01:50:18,206 --> 01:50:20,206 amounting to 77 244 million 3039 01:50:23,211 --> 01:50:23,845 existing transit occupancy tax 3040 01:50:23,845 --> 01:50:24,512 revenue from national and 3041 01:50:24,512 --> 01:50:26,512 international online travel 3042 01:50:29,584 --> 01:50:32,584 companies to the city's general 3043 01:50:34,890 --> 01:50:35,589 fund City Council District two 3044 01:50:35,589 --> 01:50:36,257 candidate Mandy Havlik The My 3045 01:50:36,257 --> 01:50:37,250 Transit I can see tax reform 3046 01:50:37,250 --> 01:50:40,328 ballot measures that were to be 3047 01:50:40,328 --> 01:50:41,620 heard at the upcoming 3048 01:50:41,620 --> 01:50:43,462 Wednesday, MAY 20th, 2026 Rules 3049 01:50:45,300 --> 01:50:48,300 Committee hearing at 9 A.M. 3050 01:50:49,838 --> 01:50:50,471 They also included four other 3051 01:50:50,471 --> 01:50:50,939 ballot measures from city 3052 01:50:50,939 --> 01:50:52,939 council members. 3053 01:50:56,110 --> 01:50:56,678 Now none of us are having a 3054 01:50:56,678 --> 01:50:57,279 hearing on Wednesday because 3055 01:50:57,279 --> 01:51:00,279 they want to sabotage or 3056 01:51:01,550 --> 01:51:01,917 hearings and I think it's just 3057 01:51:01,917 --> 01:51:02,551 terrible. 3058 01:51:02,551 --> 01:51:03,285 So anyway, on MAY 11th we 3059 01:51:03,285 --> 01:51:06,285 received an email from city 3060 01:51:08,123 --> 01:51:08,824 Council PRESIDENT Joe 3061 01:51:08,824 --> 01:51:09,491 McCarthy's office stating that 3062 01:51:09,491 --> 01:51:10,125 we are kicked off the Rules 3063 01:51:10,125 --> 01:51:12,525 Committee's agenda and no 3064 01:51:13,628 --> 01:51:14,363 longer involved in presenting 3065 01:51:14,363 --> 01:51:14,997 our tort reform ballot measures 3066 01:51:14,997 --> 01:51:15,497 to the Rules Committee or 3067 01:51:15,497 --> 01:51:17,497 the City Council. 3068 01:51:19,501 --> 01:51:20,268 Then Joe LaCava by myself 3069 01:51:20,268 --> 01:51:20,902 without the rest of the Rules 3070 01:51:20,902 --> 01:51:21,503 Committee or the full city 3071 01:51:21,503 --> 01:51:22,171 council will be deciding 3072 01:51:22,171 --> 01:51:25,771 the fate of our tort reform 3073 01:51:26,707 --> 01:51:27,376 ballot measures that can delete 3074 01:51:27,376 --> 01:51:27,909 the city's structural budget 3075 01:51:27,909 --> 01:51:28,310 deficit by spreading 3076 01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:30,310 the wealth. 3077 01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:32,648 So what I'm asking for now is 3078 01:51:32,648 --> 01:51:33,347 one of you other city council 3079 01:51:33,347 --> 01:51:36,947 members here to send this to 3080 01:51:37,853 --> 01:51:38,587 the city attorney You can 3081 01:51:38,587 --> 01:51:39,287 during on agenda public comment 3082 01:51:39,287 --> 01:51:39,888 you can still refer things to 3083 01:51:39,888 --> 01:51:42,888 the city attorney or to 3084 01:51:43,791 --> 01:51:44,760 the mayor to the idea. 3085 01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:45,493 So I'm asking you to send it to 3086 01:51:45,493 --> 01:51:49,930 the city attorney Any idea this 3087 01:51:49,498 --> 01:51:50,265 is a question of leadership. 3088 01:51:50,265 --> 01:51:50,966 So anyway, is it possible that 3089 01:51:50,966 --> 01:51:53,966 Joe LaCava is being influenced 3090 01:51:56,271 --> 01:51:56,871 by online travel companies, 3091 01:51:56,871 --> 01:51:57,540 Expedia.Com or others to 3092 01:51:57,540 --> 01:51:59,940 sabotage Trump has concluded 3093 01:52:03,780 --> 01:52:03,745 Becky Rob if can please a new 3094 01:52:03,745 --> 01:52:04,280 after that is Tony and then 3095 01:52:04,280 --> 01:52:06,280 8700 like you wrote. 3096 01:52:08,584 --> 01:52:09,351 >> Good afternoon My name is 3097 01:52:09,351 --> 01:52:09,918 Becky and I'm here today to ask 3098 01:52:09,918 --> 01:52:10,586 the city to prioritize 3099 01:52:10,586 --> 01:52:12,586 enforcement against illegal 3100 01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:14,757 trade on flavored tobacco sales 3101 01:52:14,757 --> 01:52:15,424 and intoxicating hemp products 3102 01:52:15,424 --> 01:52:17,824 happening and selling openly 3103 01:52:19,795 --> 01:52:20,496 across our neighborhoods. 3104 01:52:20,496 --> 01:52:22,896 One neighboring city Oceanside 3105 01:52:26,201 --> 01:52:26,869 is actively enforcing law. 3106 01:52:26,869 --> 01:52:27,603 According to recent reports, 3107 01:52:27,603 --> 01:52:30,105 the police and code enforcement 3108 01:52:30,105 --> 01:52:30,806 sees one 6300 prohibited 3109 01:52:30,806 --> 01:52:31,472 products during one operation 3110 01:52:31,472 --> 01:52:33,872 alone under their municipal 3111 01:52:36,612 --> 01:52:37,313 code Every violation can be 3112 01:52:37,313 --> 01:52:37,947 treated as a separate offense 3113 01:52:37,947 --> 01:52:38,680 and each day the violation 3114 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,800 continues can create additional 3115 01:52:42,685 --> 01:52:43,319 penalties. 3116 01:52:43,319 --> 01:52:44,530 Businesses are reportedly 3117 01:52:44,530 --> 01:52:44,552 facing hundreds of thousands of 3118 01:52:44,552 --> 01:52:46,552 dollars in fines. 3119 01:52:48,590 --> 01:52:49,258 Meanwhile, San Diego we have 3120 01:52:49,258 --> 01:52:49,825 smoke shops selling flavored 3121 01:52:49,825 --> 01:52:51,825 vapes illegal nicotine 3122 01:52:54,763 --> 01:52:55,434 products, creative extracts and 3123 01:52:55,434 --> 01:52:56,310 high potency substances with 3124 01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:58,431 little to no oversight. 3125 01:53:00,202 --> 01:53:00,870 Our penalties are minimal and 3126 01:53:00,870 --> 01:53:01,470 many businesses simply treat 3127 01:53:01,470 --> 01:53:01,837 them as a cost of doing 3128 01:53:01,837 --> 01:53:03,837 business. 3129 01:53:05,374 --> 01:53:06,410 It's San Diego has roughly 200 3130 01:53:06,410 --> 01:53:08,441 smoke shops and enforcement 3131 01:53:09,745 --> 01:53:10,379 officers seized just 100 3132 01:53:10,379 --> 01:53:11,460 illegal products from each 3133 01:53:11,460 --> 01:53:11,546 location at a penalty of 500 3134 01:53:11,546 --> 01:53:13,546 per illegal item. 3135 01:53:15,985 --> 01:53:16,685 The city could potentially 3136 01:53:16,685 --> 01:53:17,352 collect $10 million in fines. 3137 01:53:17,352 --> 01:53:20,352 That estimate does not even 3138 01:53:21,957 --> 01:53:22,625 account for repeat violations, 3139 01:53:22,625 --> 01:53:23,259 daily penalties or the sheer 3140 01:53:23,259 --> 01:53:23,926 volume of products Many of 3141 01:53:23,926 --> 01:53:26,926 these stores appear to be 3142 01:53:28,497 --> 01:53:29,230 selling at a time when the city 3143 01:53:29,230 --> 01:53:29,898 is constantly discussing budget 3144 01:53:29,898 --> 01:53:32,298 shortfalls, cuts to services 3145 01:53:34,300 --> 01:53:34,737 and limited resources. 3146 01:53:34,737 --> 01:53:35,404 Why are we ignoring laws 3147 01:53:35,404 --> 01:53:38,404 already in place that could 3148 01:53:39,707 --> 01:53:40,376 both protect public health and 3149 01:53:40,376 --> 01:53:41,770 generate substantial revenue 3150 01:53:41,770 --> 01:53:41,506 for enforcement and prevention 3151 01:53:41,506 --> 01:53:43,506 efforts? 3152 01:53:45,881 --> 01:53:46,582 I urge this Council to direct 3153 01:53:46,582 --> 01:53:47,316 Code Enforcement and San Diego 3154 01:53:47,316 --> 01:53:49,716 Police Department to prioritize 3155 01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:52,540 inspections of smoke shops, 3156 01:53:52,540 --> 01:53:52,722 strengthen penalties for repeat 3157 01:53:52,722 --> 01:53:55,122 offenders and begin treating 3158 01:53:57,994 --> 01:53:58,393 these violations seriously. 3159 01:53:58,393 --> 01:54:00,393 Thank you. 3160 01:54:03,632 --> 01:54:04,300 Tell me if we complete a new 3161 01:54:04,300 --> 01:54:05,100 then 8700 and the Madison. 3162 01:54:05,100 --> 01:54:08,601 The five minute timer also did 3163 01:54:09,805 --> 01:54:10,506 conclude there were nine 3164 01:54:10,506 --> 01:54:11,107 speakers of the queue at that 3165 01:54:11,107 --> 01:54:11,474 point eight speakers in 3166 01:54:11,474 --> 01:54:12,208 the queue. 3167 01:54:12,208 --> 01:54:12,575 Now no additional speakers will 3168 01:54:12,575 --> 01:54:14,575 be taken. 3169 01:54:15,478 --> 01:54:15,778 Tony, please proceed. 3170 01:54:15,778 --> 01:54:16,280 Yes? 3171 01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:16,612 Can you hear me? 3172 01:54:16,612 --> 01:54:17,112 Yes. 3173 01:54:17,112 --> 01:54:19,112 Hey, good morning. 3174 01:54:20,783 --> 01:54:21,717 City Council. 3175 01:54:21,717 --> 01:54:22,452 What I have to say is going to 3176 01:54:22,452 --> 01:54:26,520 sound really harsh but it needs 3177 01:54:26,656 --> 01:54:27,589 to be said. 3178 01:54:27,589 --> 01:54:28,124 Some of you have blood on your 3179 01:54:28,124 --> 01:54:28,691 hands as a result of 3180 01:54:28,691 --> 01:54:30,691 yesterday's incident. 3181 01:54:32,461 --> 01:54:33,162 You were warned several months 3182 01:54:33,162 --> 01:54:33,796 ago that the hra definition of 3183 01:54:33,796 --> 01:54:35,796 anti-Semitism was woefully 3184 01:54:39,502 --> 01:54:40,103 inadequate, that it did not 3185 01:54:40,103 --> 01:54:40,837 protect our brothers and 3186 01:54:40,837 --> 01:54:43,837 sisters in the Muslim community 3187 01:54:44,873 --> 01:54:45,642 in the Islamic community. 3188 01:54:45,642 --> 01:54:46,409 You were warned and you were 3189 01:54:46,409 --> 01:54:50,900 told that the hrc definition of 3190 01:54:51,470 --> 01:54:51,781 anti-Semitism needed to include 3191 01:54:51,781 --> 01:54:52,481 those members of the community. 3192 01:54:52,481 --> 01:54:55,481 Stephen Whitburn You had ample 3193 01:54:56,186 --> 01:54:56,886 opportunity to take that 3194 01:54:56,886 --> 01:54:57,753 definition back to your office 3195 01:54:57,753 --> 01:55:02,553 and work on it as was asked you 3196 01:55:02,859 --> 01:55:03,726 by Sean Eli Rivera. 3197 01:55:03,726 --> 01:55:04,494 You chose not to and the rest 3198 01:55:04,494 --> 01:55:08,164 of you chose to be cowards and 3199 01:55:08,164 --> 01:55:08,898 vote for something 3200 01:55:08,898 --> 01:55:09,599 The ultimately does not protect 3201 01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:10,199 all of the people of San Diego 3202 01:55:10,199 --> 01:55:12,599 in giving preference to 3203 01:55:14,204 --> 01:55:14,904 the Jewish community over our 3204 01:55:14,904 --> 01:55:17,304 Muslim and Islamic community. 3205 01:55:20,343 --> 01:55:21,430 You have shown that you that 3206 01:55:21,430 --> 01:55:21,710 you are biased in favor of 3207 01:55:21,710 --> 01:55:24,710 Zionists and favor of Israel 3208 01:55:25,982 --> 01:55:26,650 which is currently dragging us 3209 01:55:26,650 --> 01:55:27,383 into war with Iran which is 3210 01:55:27,383 --> 01:55:28,118 currently bombing Lebanon which 3211 01:55:28,118 --> 01:55:31,718 is currently putting us in such 3212 01:55:32,858 --> 01:55:33,556 a precarious position all over 3213 01:55:33,556 --> 01:55:36,556 the world with this draconian 3214 01:55:38,728 --> 01:55:39,596 disastrous foreign policy that 3215 01:55:39,596 --> 01:55:40,196 for you all to accept it, that 3216 01:55:40,196 --> 01:55:43,196 for you all to protect 3217 01:55:43,967 --> 01:55:44,667 the Jewish people and not 3218 01:55:44,667 --> 01:55:45,368 protect any other people of 3219 01:55:45,368 --> 01:55:47,768 Semitic background is shameful 3220 01:55:49,606 --> 01:55:50,139 and it's contributing to what 3221 01:55:50,139 --> 01:55:50,607 happened yesterday. 3222 01:55:50,607 --> 01:55:51,307 And guess what? 3223 01:55:51,307 --> 01:55:54,907 The fact that Chief of Police 3224 01:55:55,879 --> 01:55:56,613 Scott Wall is claiming to Alper 3225 01:55:56,613 --> 01:55:57,312 could have been utilized or was 3226 01:55:57,312 --> 01:55:59,712 utilized yesterday to prevent 3227 01:56:01,885 --> 01:56:02,452 this from happening is a 3228 01:56:02,452 --> 01:56:03,119 shameful blatant lie. 3229 01:56:03,119 --> 01:56:03,420 These kids were out for two 3230 01:56:03,420 --> 01:56:05,420 hours. 3231 01:56:07,757 --> 01:56:08,558 The police knew that they were 3232 01:56:08,558 --> 01:56:09,258 out and that they had weapons, 3233 01:56:09,258 --> 01:56:09,893 that they had stolen a vehicle 3234 01:56:09,893 --> 01:56:12,293 and they weren't stopped. 3235 01:56:14,264 --> 01:56:14,564 How's that for a response time 3236 01:56:14,564 --> 01:56:15,298 ? 3237 01:56:15,298 --> 01:56:15,932 >> How is that serving and 3238 01:56:15,932 --> 01:56:16,466 protecting our community? 3239 01:56:16,466 --> 01:56:19,466 Shame on all of you. 3240 01:56:20,136 --> 01:56:21,104 Do better. 3241 01:56:21,104 --> 01:56:24,104 >> Next is 8700 If you can 3242 01:56:24,407 --> 01:56:24,874 please unmute 8700 and then 3243 01:56:24,874 --> 01:56:26,874 I'll be Madison. 3244 01:56:31,381 --> 01:56:31,727 >> Thank you, Joy. 3245 01:56:31,727 --> 01:56:32,549 Senator. 3246 01:56:32,549 --> 01:56:32,916 Before I start I just want to 3247 01:56:32,916 --> 01:56:34,916 say this. 3248 01:56:39,550 --> 01:56:39,789 Council Member Foster Third 3249 01:56:39,789 --> 01:56:43,389 thank you for these three words 3250 01:56:44,930 --> 01:56:44,927 and I like the order of them. 3251 01:56:44,927 --> 01:56:49,127 i don't know if you meant that. 3252 01:56:49,733 --> 01:56:50,600 Loving learning and accepting. 3253 01:56:50,600 --> 01:56:50,901 That's what I had to do just 3254 01:56:50,901 --> 01:56:52,901 then. 3255 01:56:55,972 --> 01:56:56,739 Okay. 3256 01:56:56,739 --> 01:56:57,441 So I'm going to talk about 3257 01:56:57,441 --> 01:56:59,841 the structural budget deficit. 3258 01:57:01,878 --> 01:57:02,712 The speed. 3259 01:57:02,712 --> 01:57:06,912 So I'm going to say words that 3260 01:57:07,517 --> 01:57:08,150 were spoken by people. 3261 01:57:08,150 --> 01:57:11,150 I'll start with the idea. 3262 01:57:13,156 --> 01:57:13,857 They said critical to align 3263 01:57:13,857 --> 01:57:16,257 ongoing expenses with ongoing 3264 01:57:19,162 --> 01:57:19,796 revenue to provide stability 3265 01:57:19,796 --> 01:57:20,960 and restore public trust. 3266 01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,960 Given. 3267 01:57:26,436 --> 01:57:27,170 It's so vital that quote from 3268 01:57:27,170 --> 01:57:30,170 the Department of Finance these 3269 01:57:31,842 --> 01:57:32,175 are those very recent staff 3270 01:57:32,175 --> 01:57:32,842 report. 3271 01:57:32,842 --> 01:57:35,842 As the city continues to 3272 01:57:37,181 --> 01:57:37,815 address the structural budget 3273 01:57:37,815 --> 01:57:40,215 deficit, the importance of 3274 01:57:43,353 --> 01:57:44,210 maintaining cash reserves to 3275 01:57:44,210 --> 01:57:46,421 strengthen the city's fiscal 3276 01:57:48,759 --> 01:57:49,392 position and effectively manage 3277 01:57:49,392 --> 01:57:49,759 potential future economic 3278 01:57:49,759 --> 01:57:51,759 downturns. 3279 01:57:55,966 --> 01:57:56,700 As you never repeat that has 3280 01:57:56,700 --> 01:57:57,670 never been more critical to end 3281 01:57:57,670 --> 01:57:59,670 of quote. 3282 01:58:01,839 --> 01:58:06,639 Now this This is for me so I 3283 01:58:07,411 --> 01:58:08,111 can't get why we can't get a 3284 01:58:08,111 --> 01:58:11,711 handle on this core issue of 3285 01:58:13,283 --> 01:58:14,251 the structural budget deficit. 3286 01:58:14,251 --> 01:58:17,851 I think it's 20 to 30 years old 3287 01:58:18,855 --> 01:58:19,623 now and I just don't get it. 3288 01:58:19,623 --> 01:58:20,240 All of you are extremely 3289 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:20,690 intelligent. 3290 01:58:20,690 --> 01:58:23,900 You love your constituents. 3291 01:58:25,629 --> 01:58:26,196 I'm sure. 3292 01:58:26,196 --> 01:58:26,897 And you get it. 3293 01:58:26,897 --> 01:58:27,665 You get the structural budget 3294 01:58:27,665 --> 01:58:31,265 deficit and you bring it all 3295 01:58:31,902 --> 01:58:32,770 here in there. 3296 01:58:32,770 --> 01:58:36,370 >> You put it all the time 3297 01:58:37,874 --> 01:58:38,240 because my apologies metaphors 3298 01:58:38,240 --> 01:58:38,943 . 3299 01:58:38,943 --> 01:58:39,310 >> Our next speaker after that 3300 01:58:39,310 --> 01:58:39,710 is Hector. 3301 01:58:39,710 --> 01:58:40,411 i thank you. 3302 01:58:40,411 --> 01:58:43,411 Today I want to address 3303 01:58:43,547 --> 01:58:44,810 the growing public safety 3304 01:58:44,810 --> 01:58:44,782 impact of marijuana 3305 01:58:44,782 --> 01:58:45,316 commercialization, especially 3306 01:58:45,316 --> 01:58:47,316 on impaired driving. 3307 01:58:49,587 --> 01:58:50,287 A new bipartisan transportation 3308 01:58:50,287 --> 01:58:50,955 bill in Congress would require 3309 01:58:50,955 --> 01:58:53,355 federal agencies to develop 3310 01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:56,727 evidence based impairment 3311 01:58:56,727 --> 01:58:57,294 standards for marijuana and 3312 01:58:57,294 --> 01:58:59,694 other drugs while also 3313 01:59:00,464 --> 01:59:01,165 investing more than $100 3314 01:59:01,165 --> 01:59:01,866 million into better crash data 3315 01:59:01,866 --> 01:59:03,866 collection, toxicology testing 3316 01:59:07,304 --> 01:59:07,674 and impaired driving prevention 3317 01:59:07,674 --> 01:59:08,372 research. 3318 01:59:08,372 --> 01:59:09,106 That should tell us something 3319 01:59:09,106 --> 01:59:12,106 important at the federal level. 3320 01:59:12,943 --> 01:59:13,544 Leaders from both parties 3321 01:59:13,544 --> 01:59:14,211 recognize that marijuana 3322 01:59:14,211 --> 01:59:17,811 impairment on our roads is a 3323 01:59:18,916 --> 01:59:19,684 serious and unresolved issue. 3324 01:59:19,684 --> 01:59:20,284 Unlike alcohol, there is still 3325 01:59:20,284 --> 01:59:20,851 no universally accepted 3326 01:59:20,851 --> 01:59:21,252 standard for marijuana 3327 01:59:21,252 --> 01:59:23,252 impairment. 3328 01:59:25,456 --> 01:59:26,900 Yet communities like San Diego 3329 01:59:26,900 --> 01:59:28,900 continue expanding access, 3330 01:59:31,395 --> 01:59:31,962 normalization and visibility of 3331 01:59:31,962 --> 01:59:32,330 high potency marijuana 3332 01:59:32,330 --> 01:59:32,964 products. 3333 01:59:32,964 --> 01:59:33,564 Meanwhile, families share 3334 01:59:33,564 --> 01:59:36,564 the roads every day with 3335 01:59:37,435 --> 01:59:38,200 drivers who MAY be impaired by 3336 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:38,536 marijuana or multiple 3337 01:59:38,536 --> 01:59:39,103 substances combined. 3338 01:59:39,103 --> 01:59:39,803 Federal transportation 3339 01:59:39,803 --> 01:59:41,803 officials themselves recently 3340 01:59:44,341 --> 01:59:44,976 stated that marijuana use is 3341 01:59:44,976 --> 01:59:45,510 not compatible with safety 3342 01:59:45,510 --> 01:59:47,510 sensitive functions. 3343 01:59:50,470 --> 01:59:50,648 Airline pilots, truck drivers 3344 01:59:50,648 --> 01:59:51,314 and other transportation 3345 01:59:51,314 --> 01:59:52,500 workers are still prohibited 3346 01:59:52,500 --> 01:59:55,650 from using it because the risks 3347 01:59:56,287 --> 01:59:56,988 are real. 3348 01:59:56,988 --> 01:59:57,688 As our city discusses public 3349 01:59:57,688 --> 01:59:59,688 health, transportation safety 3350 02:00:02,392 --> 02:00:03,940 and well-being, I urge you to 3351 02:00:03,940 --> 02:00:03,761 take these warnings seriously. 3352 02:00:03,761 --> 02:00:07,361 We should not move faster on 3353 02:00:08,566 --> 02:00:09,133 marijuana normalization than 3354 02:00:09,133 --> 02:00:09,801 the science and safety 3355 02:00:09,801 --> 02:00:10,434 standards can keep up with. 3356 02:00:10,434 --> 02:00:13,434 Parents should not have to 3357 02:00:14,172 --> 02:00:14,872 wonder whether the driver next 3358 02:00:14,872 --> 02:00:15,440 to their child's school bus or 3359 02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:16,174 crosswalk is impaired. 3360 02:00:16,174 --> 02:00:18,574 Please prioritize policies that 3361 02:00:20,911 --> 02:00:21,612 protect public safety. 3362 02:00:21,612 --> 02:00:22,280 Support prevention, education 3363 02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:25,280 and recognize the very real 3364 02:00:26,617 --> 02:00:27,350 consequences of impaired 3365 02:00:27,350 --> 02:00:27,718 driving on San Diego families. 3366 02:00:27,718 --> 02:00:28,860 Thank you. 3367 02:00:28,860 --> 02:00:28,453 Thank you. 3368 02:00:28,453 --> 02:00:30,453 Thank you. 3369 02:00:31,550 --> 02:00:34,655 If you can please unmute after 3370 02:00:38,290 --> 02:00:38,630 that will be 7499. 3371 02:00:38,630 --> 02:00:38,896 Can you hear me? 3372 02:00:38,896 --> 02:00:39,364 Yes. 3373 02:00:39,364 --> 02:00:39,697 Please proceed. 3374 02:00:39,697 --> 02:00:40,431 Oh yeah. 3375 02:00:40,431 --> 02:00:43,431 Thanks for taking my call. 3376 02:00:43,735 --> 02:00:44,402 Yeah I was thinking about those 3377 02:00:44,402 --> 02:00:47,402 license plates readers and I 3378 02:00:49,707 --> 02:00:50,408 live up on top of Mission 3379 02:00:50,408 --> 02:00:51,750 Valley where those fires were. 3380 02:00:51,750 --> 02:00:51,876 And if I go to Ralphs down 3381 02:00:51,876 --> 02:00:55,780 the hill about a mile and a 3382 02:00:55,780 --> 02:00:56,480 half away, I passed through 3383 02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:57,115 like five cameras for license 3384 02:00:57,115 --> 02:01:00,115 plate readers and it's no 3385 02:01:01,286 --> 02:01:02,190 problem with me. 3386 02:01:02,190 --> 02:01:02,720 And I'd say maybe the mass of 3387 02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:06,320 the churches have got to get 3388 02:01:07,625 --> 02:01:08,426 some license plate readers of 3389 02:01:08,426 --> 02:01:08,826 their own arts or eat up to 3390 02:01:08,826 --> 02:01:09,461 the system. 3391 02:01:09,461 --> 02:01:12,461 I wouldn't be against it. 3392 02:01:13,264 --> 02:01:13,898 I know everyone's worried about 3393 02:01:13,898 --> 02:01:14,632 with the immigration thing 3394 02:01:14,632 --> 02:01:18,102 going on with that but it looks 3395 02:01:18,102 --> 02:01:18,770 like we passed the mark and 3396 02:01:18,770 --> 02:01:19,470 then I don't know how anyone 3397 02:01:19,470 --> 02:01:22,470 could beef up their place 3398 02:01:25,143 --> 02:01:25,810 better than those guys did 3399 02:01:25,810 --> 02:01:26,444 already The Muslim guys You 3400 02:01:26,444 --> 02:01:30,440 know I had our guard right 3401 02:01:30,748 --> 02:01:34,948 there as a big dude You just 3402 02:01:35,487 --> 02:01:36,187 can't dispense everything but 3403 02:01:36,187 --> 02:01:37,210 one thing in the neighborhood. 3404 02:01:37,210 --> 02:01:37,489 I talked to a guy who used to 3405 02:01:37,489 --> 02:01:38,256 house up there. 3406 02:01:38,256 --> 02:01:41,256 There is a beef in 3407 02:01:41,893 --> 02:01:42,627 the neighborhood about 3408 02:01:42,627 --> 02:01:43,361 the parking like all the Muslim 3409 02:01:43,361 --> 02:01:46,961 guys parked there on Friday and 3410 02:01:47,599 --> 02:01:48,100 they take up all the parking 3411 02:01:48,100 --> 02:01:48,833 spaces and all 3412 02:01:48,833 --> 02:01:52,433 the neighborhood's kind of in a 3413 02:01:53,338 --> 02:01:53,938 bad way And he didn't like it 3414 02:01:53,938 --> 02:01:54,673 and he was worried about 3415 02:01:54,673 --> 02:01:58,873 they're going to put the call a 3416 02:01:59,811 --> 02:02:00,478 prayer out and he was like 3417 02:02:00,478 --> 02:02:01,146 really incensed about that. 3418 02:02:01,146 --> 02:02:01,813 He did what the Muslim guys 3419 02:02:01,813 --> 02:02:05,413 have in the court prayer but 3420 02:02:05,817 --> 02:02:06,317 there could be a beef in 3421 02:02:06,317 --> 02:02:07,180 the neighborhood. 3422 02:02:07,180 --> 02:02:11,218 I think there is a beef that 3423 02:02:12,900 --> 02:02:12,790 they take up the parking they 3424 02:02:12,790 --> 02:02:13,580 might need to build a parking 3425 02:02:13,580 --> 02:02:13,758 lot. 3426 02:02:13,758 --> 02:02:14,492 There's a parking lot right in 3427 02:02:14,492 --> 02:02:17,629 front of them by the freeway 3428 02:02:17,629 --> 02:02:18,263 that could build like a five 3429 02:02:18,263 --> 02:02:18,964 story parking garage right 3430 02:02:18,964 --> 02:02:22,564 there and have a walkway over 3431 02:02:23,702 --> 02:02:24,402 to their mosque that would kind 3432 02:02:24,402 --> 02:02:25,270 of alleviate that or the city 3433 02:02:25,270 --> 02:02:29,470 can work with them And but you 3434 02:02:30,375 --> 02:02:30,809 know, that's no reason to do 3435 02:02:30,809 --> 02:02:31,475 what they did. 3436 02:02:31,475 --> 02:02:34,780 But we have to get all 3437 02:02:34,780 --> 02:02:35,480 the facts, get the guns, get 3438 02:02:35,480 --> 02:02:36,181 the letters before we give our 3439 02:02:36,181 --> 02:02:39,181 opinion about why it happened. 3440 02:02:42,187 --> 02:02:43,540 But good luck by next 27499 if 3441 02:02:43,540 --> 02:02:47,254 you can please on mute And then 3442 02:02:50,295 --> 02:02:51,630 after that Jerry and Kelly Bob 3443 02:02:51,630 --> 02:02:51,763 because this guy here I'd like 3444 02:02:51,763 --> 02:02:52,496 to start off by thanking City 3445 02:02:52,496 --> 02:02:55,496 Clerk Fuentes for a truly 3446 02:02:56,468 --> 02:02:57,135 remarkable citizen support over 3447 02:02:57,135 --> 02:02:57,803 the last few days and weeks. 3448 02:02:57,803 --> 02:02:58,503 I had originally complained 3449 02:02:58,503 --> 02:03:02,103 about not being able to bring 3450 02:03:02,941 --> 02:03:03,642 media to council on thumb drive 3451 02:03:03,642 --> 02:03:04,376 and it appears that City Clerk 3452 02:03:04,376 --> 02:03:07,376 Fuentes has resolve that issue. 3453 02:03:08,447 --> 02:03:09,214 Thanks and good job. 3454 02:03:09,214 --> 02:03:09,781 City Clerk Fuentes and Matthew 3455 02:03:09,781 --> 02:03:10,482 Hilario have also been 3456 02:03:10,482 --> 02:03:12,882 extremely responsive to email 3457 02:03:14,653 --> 02:03:15,353 requests, even responding late 3458 02:03:15,353 --> 02:03:16,121 in the evening and on weekends 3459 02:03:16,121 --> 02:03:20,191 to help me track down a few 3460 02:03:20,191 --> 02:03:20,759 city documents. 3461 02:03:20,759 --> 02:03:21,460 Good job again. 3462 02:03:21,460 --> 02:03:22,127 Having said that, however, I'm 3463 02:03:22,127 --> 02:03:24,127 increasingly concerned about 3464 02:03:26,765 --> 02:03:27,399 the outsourcing of the city's 3465 02:03:27,399 --> 02:03:27,800 public services to private 3466 02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:28,500 businesses. 3467 02:03:28,500 --> 02:03:31,500 I don't think citizens should 3468 02:03:32,404 --> 02:03:33,380 be forced to interact with 3469 02:03:33,380 --> 02:03:33,739 private businesses such as 3470 02:03:33,739 --> 02:03:36,739 Highland Cloud or next request 3471 02:03:38,377 --> 02:03:39,440 or constant contact in order to 3472 02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:39,645 obtain basic information and 3473 02:03:39,645 --> 02:03:40,345 services from the city. 3474 02:03:40,345 --> 02:03:43,345 I am particularly disturbed to 3475 02:03:44,216 --> 02:03:44,850 hear that the city's entire 3476 02:03:44,850 --> 02:03:45,584 municipal code and council 3477 02:03:45,584 --> 02:03:47,984 resolution systems and possibly 3478 02:03:49,822 --> 02:03:50,522 others MAY be contracted out to 3479 02:03:50,522 --> 02:03:50,856 private businesses later this 3480 02:03:50,856 --> 02:03:51,556 summer. 3481 02:03:51,556 --> 02:03:55,627 I believe that all of the city 3482 02:03:55,627 --> 02:03:56,328 support for citizens should be 3483 02:03:56,328 --> 02:03:56,895 direct without any third party 3484 02:03:56,895 --> 02:03:58,895 gatekeepers involved. 3485 02:04:01,700 --> 02:04:02,433 The city is certainly welcome 3486 02:04:02,433 --> 02:04:03,680 to hire contractors who provide 3487 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:03,669 services within the city's 3488 02:04:03,669 --> 02:04:06,690 infrastructure but it is 3489 02:04:08,407 --> 02:04:09,730 disturbing to see cities and 3490 02:04:09,730 --> 02:04:09,674 have to go to third party 3491 02:04:09,674 --> 02:04:10,376 vendors and third party 3492 02:04:10,376 --> 02:04:13,376 websites to get basic city 3493 02:04:14,813 --> 02:04:15,648 services and resources. 3494 02:04:15,648 --> 02:04:16,247 I ask the mayor, city clerk and 3495 02:04:16,247 --> 02:04:18,647 this council to please 3496 02:04:20,686 --> 02:04:21,187 reconsider and reverse this 3497 02:04:21,187 --> 02:04:21,920 disturbing trend. 3498 02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:26,120 And as always I am again asking 3499 02:04:26,659 --> 02:04:27,393 the city and this means you Joe 3500 02:04:27,393 --> 02:04:28,930 LaCava to reactivate the Torrey 3501 02:04:28,930 --> 02:04:31,930 Pines City Park Advisory Board 3502 02:04:31,630 --> 02:04:32,298 and implement a flight waiver 3503 02:04:32,298 --> 02:04:32,965 system similar to the one 3504 02:04:32,965 --> 02:04:33,499 that's been in use in Los 3505 02:04:33,499 --> 02:04:35,499 Angeles since 2017. 3506 02:04:38,270 --> 02:04:39,400 That's another example where 3507 02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:39,672 city resources have been turned 3508 02:04:39,672 --> 02:04:40,271 over to a private commercial 3509 02:04:40,271 --> 02:04:40,606 business at the public's 3510 02:04:40,606 --> 02:04:42,606 expense. 3511 02:04:44,710 --> 02:04:45,411 Shame on you Joe Lacob and 3512 02:04:45,411 --> 02:04:46,450 shame on every member of this 3513 02:04:46,450 --> 02:04:46,579 council for ignoring this 3514 02:04:46,579 --> 02:04:48,579 problem for decades. 3515 02:04:50,716 --> 02:04:51,217 Thank you. 3516 02:04:51,217 --> 02:04:51,884 >> Thank you. 3517 02:04:51,884 --> 02:04:54,884 Next is Gerry and Scully. 3518 02:04:56,188 --> 02:04:56,956 If you can please unmute. 3519 02:04:56,956 --> 02:04:59,956 >> Good afternoon City and City 3520 02:05:01,493 --> 02:05:02,261 City Council Chair LaCava. 3521 02:05:02,261 --> 02:05:02,962 As a community volunteer with 3522 02:05:02,962 --> 02:05:03,629 our youth afterschool programs 3523 02:05:03,629 --> 02:05:06,629 I feel like my observations 3524 02:05:07,700 --> 02:05:08,367 regarding city decisions that 3525 02:05:08,367 --> 02:05:09,670 support them are important. 3526 02:05:09,670 --> 02:05:12,667 How a city treats its most 3527 02:05:14,339 --> 02:05:15,107 vulnerable members reveals its 3528 02:05:15,107 --> 02:05:15,808 true nature Or as it can be 3529 02:05:15,808 --> 02:05:19,408 stated the way a society cares 3530 02:05:19,511 --> 02:05:20,246 for and protects its total is a 3531 02:05:20,246 --> 02:05:23,246 strong indicator of its overall 3532 02:05:25,183 --> 02:05:25,618 morality, values and level of 3533 02:05:25,618 --> 02:05:26,251 civilization. 3534 02:05:26,251 --> 02:05:26,886 So thank you for making it 3535 02:05:26,886 --> 02:05:29,886 possible for a parent and 3536 02:05:31,791 --> 02:05:32,525 community volunteer like me to 3537 02:05:32,525 --> 02:05:32,992 speak virtually what we work in 3538 02:05:32,992 --> 02:05:33,592 youth programs. 3539 02:05:33,592 --> 02:05:35,592 Recently the California 3540 02:05:37,696 --> 02:05:38,264 Department of Public Health 3541 02:05:38,264 --> 02:05:38,931 wrote that suicide is 3542 02:05:38,931 --> 02:05:39,599 the second leading cause of 3543 02:05:39,599 --> 02:05:41,999 death among adolescents and 3544 02:05:44,570 --> 02:05:45,237 young adults aged 15 to 24. 3545 02:05:45,237 --> 02:05:48,237 Teen and young adult mental 3546 02:05:50,610 --> 02:05:51,344 health is a complex situation. 3547 02:05:51,344 --> 02:05:51,978 However, the risks of today's 3548 02:05:51,978 --> 02:05:54,378 high potency thc marijuana 3549 02:05:56,314 --> 02:05:56,949 products must never be 3550 02:05:56,949 --> 02:05:59,949 overlooked for its role in 3551 02:06:02,880 --> 02:06:02,855 generating suicide ideation. 3552 02:06:02,855 --> 02:06:03,623 Hopefully our city council can 3553 02:06:03,623 --> 02:06:06,623 be counted among those trusted 3554 02:06:08,261 --> 02:06:08,894 adults who are concerned about 3555 02:06:08,894 --> 02:06:09,594 the harmful effects of its 3556 02:06:09,594 --> 02:06:12,594 sales and consumption and not 3557 02:06:14,660 --> 02:06:14,733 enlarge the footprint of 3558 02:06:14,733 --> 02:06:15,340 marijuana storefronts in our 3559 02:06:15,340 --> 02:06:15,734 city. 3560 02:06:15,734 --> 02:06:19,934 Now will be a great time to 3561 02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:20,673 reduce the pot businesses 3562 02:06:20,673 --> 02:06:21,306 impact on our youth with its 3563 02:06:21,306 --> 02:06:23,306 predatory advertising and 3564 02:06:25,911 --> 02:06:26,579 billboards and remove them. 3565 02:06:26,579 --> 02:06:27,180 Thank you for hearing my 3566 02:06:27,180 --> 02:06:29,180 concerns this afternoon. 3567 02:06:30,650 --> 02:06:31,517 Thank you. 3568 02:06:31,517 --> 02:06:34,517 >> Judy Strang If you can 3569 02:06:36,122 --> 02:06:36,990 please unmute. 3570 02:06:36,990 --> 02:06:37,456 >> Judy Strang again for you. 3571 02:06:37,456 --> 02:06:39,456 There you go. 3572 02:06:43,129 --> 02:06:43,863 Hi, Good afternoon. 3573 02:06:43,863 --> 02:06:44,364 How is difficult to call in 3574 02:06:44,364 --> 02:06:46,764 from my work site? 3575 02:06:49,335 --> 02:06:50,103 I wanted to share a stream of 3576 02:06:50,103 --> 02:06:50,836 thought that I had when I read 3577 02:06:50,836 --> 02:06:53,836 the Wall Street Journal article 3578 02:06:54,506 --> 02:06:55,241 this morning that talked about 3579 02:06:55,241 --> 02:06:55,942 the role of allergies in health 3580 02:06:55,942 --> 02:06:58,942 care and employment and health 3581 02:07:00,947 --> 02:07:01,648 costs and pointed out that for 3582 02:07:01,648 --> 02:07:02,348 allergies related to food that 3583 02:07:02,348 --> 02:07:05,348 there's an admittance into our 3584 02:07:06,319 --> 02:07:06,853 health care our hospitals once 3585 02:07:06,853 --> 02:07:08,853 every three minutes. 3586 02:07:12,826 --> 02:07:13,393 I did a little research more on 3587 02:07:13,393 --> 02:07:14,930 allergies and I'm well 3588 02:07:14,930 --> 02:07:14,727 acquainted I think as many of 3589 02:07:14,727 --> 02:07:18,327 you are with the role that 3590 02:07:18,898 --> 02:07:19,532 allergies plays and health care 3591 02:07:19,532 --> 02:07:19,932 costs and miserable living 3592 02:07:19,932 --> 02:07:21,932 experiences. 3593 02:07:25,205 --> 02:07:25,872 I might also add. 3594 02:07:25,872 --> 02:07:26,639 And I pointed out that 3595 02:07:26,639 --> 02:07:30,239 secondhand smoke and vape is a 3596 02:07:30,643 --> 02:07:31,577 serious trigger for allergies. 3597 02:07:31,577 --> 02:07:32,178 And it goes on to point out 3598 02:07:32,178 --> 02:07:35,178 that what happens is it 3599 02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:37,751 triggers the immune system, our 3600 02:07:37,751 --> 02:07:38,418 individual immune systems to 3601 02:07:38,418 --> 02:07:42,618 react and in doing so it can 3602 02:07:43,256 --> 02:07:43,590 inflame our nasal passages and 3603 02:07:43,590 --> 02:07:44,324 airways. 3604 02:07:44,324 --> 02:07:44,991 It can lower the threshold for 3605 02:07:44,991 --> 02:07:47,991 other allergens to bother us 3606 02:07:49,462 --> 02:07:50,630 even more And it causes a sort 3607 02:07:50,630 --> 02:07:52,463 of sensitization that in 3608 02:07:55,535 --> 02:07:56,403 childhood can lead to asthma. 3609 02:07:56,403 --> 02:07:57,103 I got to looking at our 3610 02:07:57,103 --> 02:08:00,703 policies here at the city and 3611 02:08:01,874 --> 02:08:02,542 many of us have asked you about 3612 02:08:02,542 --> 02:08:02,943 smoke free public places and 3613 02:08:02,943 --> 02:08:04,943 smoke free. 3614 02:08:07,213 --> 02:08:07,981 And I thought Chromecast 3615 02:08:07,981 --> 02:08:08,682 perspective this has got to be 3616 02:08:08,682 --> 02:08:11,682 anything that would lower our 3617 02:08:13,386 --> 02:08:14,187 city's citizens allergic 3618 02:08:14,187 --> 02:08:14,821 reaction that they can have a 3619 02:08:14,821 --> 02:08:17,821 second hand smoke and they 3620 02:08:19,125 --> 02:08:19,860 would deeply decrease the cost 3621 02:08:19,860 --> 02:08:20,494 of our health services, our 3622 02:08:20,494 --> 02:08:21,940 hospital cost and improve 3623 02:08:21,940 --> 02:08:24,940 the quality of life for 3624 02:08:26,266 --> 02:08:27,200 everyone around us. 3625 02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:27,834 So perhaps this is a way to 3626 02:08:27,834 --> 02:08:28,535 save ourselves some money. 3627 02:08:28,535 --> 02:08:31,535 It's not one you'll see 3628 02:08:33,730 --> 02:08:33,807 automatically but it's 3629 02:08:33,807 --> 02:08:34,241 certainly one that will happen. 3630 02:08:34,241 --> 02:08:34,608 >> Thank you. 3631 02:08:34,608 --> 02:08:35,308 Thank you. 3632 02:08:35,308 --> 02:08:35,642 And our final speaker is Peggy 3633 02:08:35,642 --> 02:08:37,642 Walker. 3634 02:08:38,145 --> 02:08:38,611 If you can please unmute. 3635 02:08:38,611 --> 02:08:39,279 >> Thank you. 3636 02:08:39,279 --> 02:08:42,279 Good afternoon and thank you 3637 02:08:44,751 --> 02:08:45,185 for your compassionate remarks 3638 02:08:45,185 --> 02:08:45,886 this morning. 3639 02:08:45,886 --> 02:08:48,886 I came today to acknowledge 3640 02:08:50,490 --> 02:08:50,890 that Sun is not its world No 3641 02:08:50,890 --> 02:08:51,692 Tobacco Day. 3642 02:08:51,692 --> 02:08:52,325 In light of that observation 3643 02:08:52,325 --> 02:08:54,725 which calls attention to 3644 02:08:56,530 --> 02:08:57,130 Smokey's smoking devastating 3645 02:08:57,130 --> 02:08:57,464 health and environmental 3646 02:08:57,464 --> 02:08:59,464 impacts. 3647 02:09:01,902 --> 02:09:02,536 I want to congratulate the city 3648 02:09:02,536 --> 02:09:03,235 attorney's office and law 3649 02:09:03,235 --> 02:09:05,635 enforcement for recent actions 3650 02:09:07,908 --> 02:09:08,575 against smoke shops selling 3651 02:09:08,575 --> 02:09:09,750 hemp and marijuana products 3652 02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:09,743 without a license. 3653 02:09:09,743 --> 02:09:12,143 Snapshots, gas stations and 3654 02:09:14,381 --> 02:09:15,820 other small convenience stores 3655 02:09:15,820 --> 02:09:15,749 have become exceptionally bold 3656 02:09:15,749 --> 02:09:16,830 in selling what's called gas 3657 02:09:16,830 --> 02:09:18,830 station. 3658 02:09:20,420 --> 02:09:21,221 We products like Delta eight 3659 02:09:21,221 --> 02:09:24,221 Vapes and thc infused beverages 3660 02:09:26,126 --> 02:09:26,894 without a license. 3661 02:09:26,894 --> 02:09:29,894 As noted earlier, some also 3662 02:09:31,431 --> 02:09:32,166 sell prohibited flavored vapes 3663 02:09:32,166 --> 02:09:34,566 and unregulated mushroom kratom 3664 02:09:37,937 --> 02:09:38,538 and nitrous oxide products that 3665 02:09:38,538 --> 02:09:39,206 can be highly addictive. 3666 02:09:39,206 --> 02:09:42,206 These are often hidden in 3667 02:09:44,110 --> 02:09:44,677 backrooms which makes ongoing 3668 02:09:44,677 --> 02:09:45,212 undercover compliance checks 3669 02:09:45,212 --> 02:09:47,212 especially critical. 3670 02:09:50,283 --> 02:09:50,884 Prohibited flavored tobacco is 3671 02:09:50,884 --> 02:09:54,484 timely and the fda in a 3672 02:09:55,890 --> 02:09:56,556 controversial move just 3673 02:09:56,556 --> 02:09:57,291 approved two fruit flavored 3674 02:09:57,291 --> 02:10:00,291 nicotine vapes for adult users. 3675 02:10:01,495 --> 02:10:02,229 The fda called this neither 3676 02:10:02,229 --> 02:10:02,963 quote approval nor endorsement. 3677 02:10:02,963 --> 02:10:06,563 I bring it to your attention 3678 02:10:08,235 --> 02:10:08,869 because the fda's action does 3679 02:10:08,869 --> 02:10:11,269 not mean flavored tobacco 3680 02:10:13,374 --> 02:10:14,108 products can be sold locally 3681 02:10:14,108 --> 02:10:14,842 flavored tobacco remains banned 3682 02:10:14,842 --> 02:10:17,842 in California and we're assured 3683 02:10:20,214 --> 02:10:20,814 fda authorized action does not 3684 02:10:20,814 --> 02:10:21,247 override state or local 3685 02:10:21,247 --> 02:10:23,247 prohibitions. 3686 02:10:25,752 --> 02:10:26,453 Please remain vigilant in 3687 02:10:26,453 --> 02:10:29,453 helping kids keep tobacco free 3688 02:10:32,293 --> 02:10:32,993 and keeping unauthorized and 3689 02:10:32,993 --> 02:10:33,494 intoxicating tobacco products 3690 02:10:33,494 --> 02:10:35,494 off store shelves. 3691 02:10:39,333 --> 02:10:39,700 Thank you for your attention. 3692 02:10:39,700 --> 02:10:40,400 Thank you. 3693 02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:41,102 That does include knowledge on 3694 02:10:41,102 --> 02:10:41,435 the public comment for today's 3695 02:10:41,435 --> 02:10:41,802 meeting. 3696 02:10:41,802 --> 02:10:42,169 All right. 3697 02:10:42,169 --> 02:10:44,104 Thank you. 3698 02:10:44,104 --> 02:10:44,772 City clerk. 3699 02:10:44,772 --> 02:10:45,472 We will now adjourned for 3700 02:10:45,472 --> 02:10:46,140 the noon recess and reconvene 3701 02:10:46,140 --> 02:10:46,673 in open session at 2 P.M. Or 3702 02:10:46,673 --> 02:10:48,673 shortly thereafter. 3703 02:19:26,268 --> 02:19:28,268 And 3704 02:21:06,302 --> 02:21:08,302 if you 3705 02:23:05,689 --> 02:23:07,689 don't 3706 02:27:31,222 --> 02:27:31,522 already 3707 02:27:31,522 --> 02:27:33,522 . 3708 02:27:36,995 --> 02:27:37,762 >> Good afternoon. 3709 02:27:37,762 --> 02:27:38,430 >> I will now reconvene 3710 02:27:38,430 --> 02:27:39,300 the city council meeting of 3711 02:27:39,300 --> 02:27:41,300 Tuesday, MAY 19th, 2026. 3712 02:27:43,267 --> 02:27:43,634 Clerk Please call the roll. 3713 02:27:43,634 --> 02:27:44,268 Thank you. 3714 02:27:44,268 --> 02:27:44,735 Council PRESIDENT Council 3715 02:27:44,735 --> 02:27:45,303 Member Campbell. 3716 02:27:45,303 --> 02:27:47,303 Councilmember Whitburn 3717 02:27:50,308 --> 02:27:51,410 Councilmember Foster Councilor 3718 02:27:51,410 --> 02:27:54,410 Von Weber Council PRESIDENT Pro 3719 02:27:56,180 --> 02:27:56,581 Tem Lee here Councilmember 3720 02:27:56,581 --> 02:27:57,248 Campos here. 3721 02:27:57,248 --> 02:27:57,948 Councilmember Moreno present 3722 02:27:57,948 --> 02:28:00,348 Councilmember Isla Rivera and 3723 02:28:01,686 --> 02:28:02,350 Council PRESIDENT Other 3724 02:28:02,350 --> 02:28:02,754 present. 3725 02:28:02,754 --> 02:28:03,288 Also attending the meeting are 3726 02:28:03,288 --> 02:28:03,988 City Attorney Leslie 3727 02:28:03,988 --> 02:28:05,988 Fitzgerald, independent budget 3728 02:28:07,158 --> 02:28:07,859 analyst Charles Moraga, Council 3729 02:28:07,859 --> 02:28:08,593 Affairs Advisor in the Mayor's 3730 02:28:08,593 --> 02:28:09,227 office, code advisor and myself 3731 02:28:09,227 --> 02:28:09,728 your City Clerk Thank you 3732 02:28:09,728 --> 02:28:11,728 Council PRESIDENT. 3733 02:28:12,964 --> 02:28:13,565 >> All right. 3734 02:28:13,565 --> 02:28:14,131 Thank you, City Clerk. 3735 02:28:14,131 --> 02:28:16,531 Quorum is now present. 3736 02:28:18,837 --> 02:28:19,904 As a reminder from announcement 3737 02:28:19,904 --> 02:28:22,904 made this morning items 330 and 3738 02:28:23,674 --> 02:28:24,376 item f503 have been returned to 3739 02:28:24,376 --> 02:28:27,976 staff and will not be heard 3740 02:28:30,315 --> 02:28:31,182 this afternoon again that's 3741 02:28:31,182 --> 02:28:31,950 items 330 and item f five all 3742 02:28:31,950 --> 02:28:35,550 three return to staff will not 3743 02:28:35,954 --> 02:28:40,154 be heard today before we get on 3744 02:28:40,258 --> 02:28:40,991 with item 331 we have a little 3745 02:28:40,991 --> 02:28:41,425 bit of unfinished business from 3746 02:28:41,425 --> 02:28:43,425 this morning. 3747 02:28:47,980 --> 02:28:47,766 Clerk please introduce item 504 3748 02:28:47,766 --> 02:28:48,399 which was trailed from this 3749 02:28:48,399 --> 02:28:50,399 morning's consent agenda. 3750 02:28:52,437 --> 02:28:53,380 Thank you. 3751 02:28:53,380 --> 02:28:53,771 Item s5o4 is the salary 3752 02:28:53,771 --> 02:28:56,171 ordinance for fiscal year 2027. 3753 02:28:58,944 --> 02:28:59,544 Public comment was taken on 3754 02:28:59,544 --> 02:28:59,878 this during the morning 3755 02:28:59,878 --> 02:29:00,312 session. 3756 02:29:00,312 --> 02:29:00,811 >> Thank you. 3757 02:29:00,811 --> 02:29:01,179 Council PRESIDENT. 3758 02:29:01,179 --> 02:29:01,546 All right. 3759 02:29:01,546 --> 02:29:03,546 Thank you. 3760 02:29:05,317 --> 02:29:08,720 So item five four of the clerk 3761 02:29:08,720 --> 02:29:09,354 indicated is the second reading 3762 02:29:09,354 --> 02:29:10,550 for the salary ordinance. 3763 02:29:10,550 --> 02:29:13,655 We did take public comment on 3764 02:29:15,259 --> 02:29:16,270 this this morning. 3765 02:29:16,270 --> 02:29:16,461 There is no need for a 3766 02:29:16,461 --> 02:29:17,620 presentation. 3767 02:29:17,620 --> 02:29:20,620 I think the council all 3768 02:29:20,899 --> 02:29:21,199 understands and recalls this 3769 02:29:21,199 --> 02:29:22,670 item. 3770 02:29:22,670 --> 02:29:25,937 So I'm going to move item as 3771 02:29:25,937 --> 02:29:26,704 five of four to kick things off 3772 02:29:26,704 --> 02:29:27,372 as a purely procedural item 3773 02:29:27,372 --> 02:29:29,772 which doesn't actually fund 3774 02:29:32,711 --> 02:29:33,412 anything or allocate 3775 02:29:33,412 --> 02:29:34,112 appropriate any dollars or set 3776 02:29:34,112 --> 02:29:37,712 a budget but as a procedural 3777 02:29:38,884 --> 02:29:39,751 thing mandated by the charter. 3778 02:29:39,751 --> 02:29:43,322 So I will put a motion on 3779 02:29:43,322 --> 02:29:44,210 the floor to approve item 5 or 3780 02:29:44,210 --> 02:29:47,210 4 and turn over to my 3781 02:29:47,526 --> 02:29:48,126 colleagues questions Comments 3782 02:29:48,126 --> 02:29:48,727 Looking for a second 3783 02:29:48,727 --> 02:29:49,327 Councilmember Campbell. 3784 02:29:49,327 --> 02:29:52,327 >> I will be all right. 3785 02:30:03,375 --> 02:30:03,705 I'd like to just say that okay 3786 02:30:03,705 --> 02:30:05,705 . 3787 02:30:10,549 --> 02:30:11,316 >> This is who was it who set 3788 02:30:11,316 --> 02:30:11,716 the laws and as I think was it 3789 02:30:11,716 --> 02:30:13,716 Shakespeare? 3790 02:30:14,486 --> 02:30:15,354 This is this is one of those 3791 02:30:15,354 --> 02:30:18,954 deals where because of dates in 3792 02:30:20,359 --> 02:30:21,920 the charter we have to do 3793 02:30:21,920 --> 02:30:21,393 certain procedures by a certain 3794 02:30:21,393 --> 02:30:23,393 time. 3795 02:30:26,532 --> 02:30:29,532 However, it is my understanding 3796 02:30:32,104 --> 02:30:32,771 that in the further revisions 3797 02:30:32,771 --> 02:30:36,371 of the budget to come there 3798 02:30:37,976 --> 02:30:38,843 will be amendments to this such 3799 02:30:38,843 --> 02:30:42,443 that the Council last week had 3800 02:30:44,116 --> 02:30:44,817 had given its information as to 3801 02:30:44,817 --> 02:30:48,417 how we felt about a certain 3802 02:30:50,890 --> 02:30:50,856 part of this and my 3803 02:30:50,856 --> 02:30:53,856 understanding was that we had 3804 02:30:56,428 --> 02:30:57,960 been promised promised. 3805 02:30:57,960 --> 02:30:57,763 We have been assured by 3806 02:30:57,763 --> 02:31:00,163 the administration that that 3807 02:31:02,434 --> 02:31:03,135 particular item would be 3808 02:31:03,135 --> 02:31:06,735 considered and put in there to 3809 02:31:08,674 --> 02:31:09,275 meet what we expected in 3810 02:31:09,275 --> 02:31:09,975 the final version And so 3811 02:31:09,975 --> 02:31:10,242 therefore I'm happy to second 3812 02:31:10,242 --> 02:31:12,242 it. 3813 02:31:15,414 --> 02:31:16,315 I'm happy to meet the legally 3814 02:31:16,315 --> 02:31:20,515 required dates and I will be in 3815 02:31:20,953 --> 02:31:21,420 favor of it today. 3816 02:31:21,420 --> 02:31:21,820 >> Thank you. 3817 02:31:21,820 --> 02:31:22,220 All right. 3818 02:31:22,220 --> 02:31:22,888 Thank you. 3819 02:31:22,888 --> 02:31:24,888 Councilmember Campbell Good. 3820 02:31:27,659 --> 02:31:28,527 I got a little ahead of myself. 3821 02:31:28,527 --> 02:31:29,280 Did you want to speak to what 3822 02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:29,328 I'm referring to? 3823 02:31:29,328 --> 02:31:30,290 Yeah. 3824 02:31:30,290 --> 02:31:32,598 Thank you, Counsel Present And 3825 02:31:32,598 --> 02:31:33,131 to follow up on Councilmember 3826 02:31:33,131 --> 02:31:33,399 Campbell's comments. 3827 02:31:33,399 --> 02:31:34,133 Yes. 3828 02:31:34,133 --> 02:31:34,800 You have the commitment of this 3829 02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:37,200 administration to modify and 3830 02:31:38,437 --> 02:31:39,338 reduce the car allowances. 3831 02:31:39,338 --> 02:31:42,938 I realize this has been a 3832 02:31:42,941 --> 02:31:43,475 frustrating process over 3833 02:31:43,475 --> 02:31:44,176 the last two weeks. 3834 02:31:44,176 --> 02:31:44,744 I realize there are pieces in 3835 02:31:44,744 --> 02:31:45,411 here that do not have 3836 02:31:45,411 --> 02:31:48,411 the support of this council. 3837 02:31:49,148 --> 02:31:49,815 I am limited in what I can 3838 02:31:49,815 --> 02:31:50,482 change in a second reading. 3839 02:31:50,482 --> 02:31:51,149 The other commitment of this 3840 02:31:51,149 --> 02:31:53,549 administration to work with 3841 02:31:55,200 --> 02:31:55,687 this Council before the JUNE 3842 02:31:55,687 --> 02:31:56,355 16th Amendment to make those 3843 02:31:56,355 --> 02:31:56,856 modifications and bring this 3844 02:31:56,856 --> 02:31:58,856 back for Council's 3845 02:32:00,963 --> 02:32:01,927 consideration. 3846 02:32:01,927 --> 02:32:05,527 >> MAY I just add I believe 3847 02:32:07,766 --> 02:32:08,469 Councilmember Campo had educate 3848 02:32:08,469 --> 02:32:09,135 me a little bit on that 3849 02:32:09,135 --> 02:32:11,535 statement about the lobbying 3850 02:32:13,505 --> 02:32:14,273 and I have something that it 3851 02:32:14,273 --> 02:32:17,873 said that wasn't as an English 3852 02:32:19,780 --> 02:32:19,778 writer right? 3853 02:32:19,778 --> 02:32:20,460 >> An English writer? 3854 02:32:20,460 --> 02:32:20,813 Yes. 3855 02:32:20,813 --> 02:32:23,213 That's first beside Shakespeare 3856 02:32:25,251 --> 02:32:25,651 Another. 3857 02:32:25,651 --> 02:32:26,520 >> Okay. 3858 02:32:26,520 --> 02:32:26,452 Thank you. 3859 02:32:26,452 --> 02:32:27,120 All right. 3860 02:32:27,120 --> 02:32:29,520 Health Council PRESIDENT Pro 3861 02:32:32,291 --> 02:32:33,580 Tem Lee thinking as PRESIDENT 3862 02:32:33,580 --> 02:32:37,130 And co to thank you for thank 3863 02:32:37,130 --> 02:32:37,630 you for talking to the back and 3864 02:32:37,630 --> 02:32:38,297 forth about this. 3865 02:32:38,297 --> 02:32:38,865 I think certainly we're all 3866 02:32:38,865 --> 02:32:39,499 dealing with the same 3867 02:32:39,499 --> 02:32:41,899 frustrations trying to get 3868 02:32:42,435 --> 02:32:43,102 something across the board And 3869 02:32:43,102 --> 02:32:43,803 so that acknowledgment does 3870 02:32:43,803 --> 02:32:48,603 mean a lot and I'm not sure I 3871 02:32:49,742 --> 02:32:50,409 fully grasp exactly the changes 3872 02:32:50,409 --> 02:32:51,430 that DR. Jane because we're 3873 02:32:51,430 --> 02:32:54,430 Campbell is alluded to and 3874 02:32:54,914 --> 02:32:55,514 the degree to which this 3875 02:32:55,514 --> 02:32:56,282 changes are being made. 3876 02:32:56,282 --> 02:32:56,849 But I think knowing that we're 3877 02:32:56,849 --> 02:32:57,516 going to get something 3878 02:32:57,516 --> 02:32:58,840 delivered that that matches 3879 02:32:58,840 --> 02:33:00,484 the intent is helpful. 3880 02:33:01,200 --> 02:33:01,421 Thank. 3881 02:33:01,421 --> 02:33:01,888 All right. 3882 02:33:01,888 --> 02:33:03,888 Thank you, sir. 3883 02:33:06,592 --> 02:33:06,993 And Councilmember Foster. 3884 02:33:06,993 --> 02:33:07,760 Oh, yes. 3885 02:33:07,760 --> 02:33:11,360 As I stated earlier, I'm still 3886 02:33:13,966 --> 02:33:15,000 going to be voting no. 3887 02:33:15,000 --> 02:33:19,200 I think we set a bad precedent 3888 02:33:20,940 --> 02:33:21,641 as we you know, I think we kind 3889 02:33:21,641 --> 02:33:22,308 of pick and choose what we 3890 02:33:22,308 --> 02:33:25,308 consider the law at certain 3891 02:33:26,579 --> 02:33:26,912 times and how we do certain 3892 02:33:26,912 --> 02:33:28,912 things. 3893 02:33:32,251 --> 02:33:32,951 But I do think as we continue 3894 02:33:32,951 --> 02:33:33,719 to move forward that as we 3895 02:33:33,719 --> 02:33:36,719 found ourselves in a situation 3896 02:33:38,424 --> 02:33:39,124 that hopefully we can plan 3897 02:33:39,124 --> 02:33:39,458 better as we continue to move 3898 02:33:39,458 --> 02:33:41,458 forward. 3899 02:33:43,762 --> 02:33:44,530 What I would like to request as 3900 02:33:44,530 --> 02:33:45,231 I am unclear as to what's in 3901 02:33:45,231 --> 02:33:48,231 here, what the discussion was 3902 02:33:50,403 --> 02:33:51,103 on what's in, what's out, what 3903 02:33:51,103 --> 02:33:54,703 that looks like If when we 3904 02:33:56,900 --> 02:33:56,877 finish our negotiations or 3905 02:33:56,877 --> 02:33:57,543 whatever we where we land as we 3906 02:33:57,543 --> 02:33:58,177 continue to move forward I'd 3907 02:33:58,177 --> 02:34:00,577 like to formally requested 3908 02:34:01,948 --> 02:34:02,682 briefing to where I can be 3909 02:34:02,682 --> 02:34:03,249 fully well versed to understand 3910 02:34:03,249 --> 02:34:06,249 where we land and all 3911 02:34:07,754 --> 02:34:08,488 the changes that are being made 3912 02:34:08,488 --> 02:34:08,921 to the salary ordinance as we 3913 02:34:08,921 --> 02:34:09,555 move forward. 3914 02:34:09,555 --> 02:34:11,955 Yeah Councilmember I think 3915 02:34:15,195 --> 02:34:15,895 the initial introduction of 3916 02:34:15,895 --> 02:34:16,429 this ordinance had challenges 3917 02:34:16,429 --> 02:34:17,960 and so yes you have 3918 02:34:17,960 --> 02:34:17,630 the commitment to brief your 3919 02:34:17,630 --> 02:34:19,630 offices in advance. 3920 02:34:19,865 --> 02:34:20,600 Thank you for that. 3921 02:34:20,600 --> 02:34:22,600 >> Right And Councilmember 3922 02:34:25,846 --> 02:34:26,439 Moreno thank you And I want to 3923 02:34:26,439 --> 02:34:27,106 put this on the record. 3924 02:34:27,106 --> 02:34:30,106 As I stated earlier, I 3925 02:34:32,450 --> 02:34:32,745 understand an amendment will be 3926 02:34:32,745 --> 02:34:33,379 brought forward but my concern 3927 02:34:33,379 --> 02:34:34,470 with this item stems from 3928 02:34:34,470 --> 02:34:37,470 the city's failure to fully 3929 02:34:38,484 --> 02:34:39,185 address the fiscal challenges 3930 02:34:39,185 --> 02:34:39,820 we're currently facing I think 3931 02:34:39,820 --> 02:34:41,820 Councilmember Campbell for 3932 02:34:44,924 --> 02:34:45,558 bringing updates and I want to 3933 02:34:45,558 --> 02:34:46,259 put on the record when did 3934 02:34:46,259 --> 02:34:49,259 staff work on this ordinance? 3935 02:34:50,163 --> 02:34:54,363 >> I get a call from H.R. 3936 02:34:55,902 --> 02:34:57,902 On the timing. 3937 02:35:02,442 --> 02:35:03,110 Thank you, councilmember moreno 3938 02:35:03,110 --> 02:35:03,810 and this is an ongoing item 3939 02:35:03,810 --> 02:35:06,810 that's addressed each year in 3940 02:35:07,713 --> 02:35:08,581 preparation for the budget we 3941 02:35:08,581 --> 02:35:09,315 have to have a first reading by 3942 02:35:09,315 --> 02:35:09,849 APRIL 14th so we work with our 3943 02:35:09,849 --> 02:35:11,849 city's departments, 3944 02:35:14,554 --> 02:35:15,222 the personnel department, risk 3945 02:35:15,222 --> 02:35:15,956 management Department of I.T 3946 02:35:15,956 --> 02:35:16,656 and we get all that information 3947 02:35:16,656 --> 02:35:19,656 in preparation for the fiscal 3948 02:35:19,793 --> 02:35:20,393 year And so it's multifaceted 3949 02:35:20,393 --> 02:35:21,930 but we work from JANUARY 3950 02:35:21,930 --> 02:35:24,930 through APRIL and the changes 3951 02:35:27,301 --> 02:35:27,967 that happen as changes happen 3952 02:35:27,967 --> 02:35:28,668 daily depending on we're out 3953 02:35:28,668 --> 02:35:29,268 with negotiations in the like 3954 02:35:29,268 --> 02:35:32,206 two weeks leading up to 3955 02:35:32,206 --> 02:35:32,906 the beginning of the year is 3956 02:35:32,906 --> 02:35:33,673 when you guys started it was 3957 02:35:33,673 --> 02:35:37,273 this after the mayor's state of 3958 02:35:38,440 --> 02:35:38,812 the city or during around 3959 02:35:38,812 --> 02:35:43,120 the same time as the state of 3960 02:35:43,450 --> 02:35:44,217 the city Yet during. 3961 02:35:44,217 --> 02:35:44,851 Okay Thank you Thank you for 3962 02:35:44,851 --> 02:35:46,851 Councilmember Campbell for 3963 02:35:50,189 --> 02:35:50,924 bringing updates because this 3964 02:35:50,924 --> 02:35:51,625 action proposes a car allowance 3965 02:35:51,625 --> 02:35:55,225 for the mayor's dco and other 3966 02:35:55,996 --> 02:35:56,730 staff while at the same time 3967 02:35:56,730 --> 02:35:57,230 the city is cutting funding for 3968 02:35:57,230 --> 02:35:59,230 arts and culture. 3969 02:36:01,501 --> 02:36:02,169 Now I do understand that while 3970 02:36:02,169 --> 02:36:02,803 the savings from eliminating 3971 02:36:02,803 --> 02:36:03,470 these car allowances alone 3972 02:36:03,470 --> 02:36:06,470 would not fully restore arts 3973 02:36:07,374 --> 02:36:08,108 funding, the optics are deeply 3974 02:36:08,108 --> 02:36:10,508 concerning deeply concerning to 3975 02:36:13,280 --> 02:36:13,914 me it sends the wrong message 3976 02:36:13,914 --> 02:36:16,914 to provide perks for top 3977 02:36:19,586 --> 02:36:20,287 officials while residents in my 3978 02:36:20,287 --> 02:36:20,989 district will feel the impact 3979 02:36:20,989 --> 02:36:23,989 of reduced investment in their 3980 02:36:24,925 --> 02:36:25,859 community. 3981 02:36:25,859 --> 02:36:29,459 This was first heard in APRIL 3982 02:36:31,331 --> 02:36:31,931 and I think that gave plenty of 3983 02:36:31,931 --> 02:36:33,931 opportunity for this 3984 02:36:36,637 --> 02:36:39,370 administration to take out 3985 02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:42,910 the line item that states 3986 02:36:42,910 --> 02:36:43,610 adding that assistant of 3987 02:36:43,610 --> 02:36:46,610 the city manager, deputy chief 3988 02:36:48,282 --> 02:36:48,815 of staff and chief Financial 3989 02:36:48,815 --> 02:36:50,815 Officer for officer 3990 02:36:52,386 --> 02:36:53,860 classification Sorry I'm 3991 02:36:53,860 --> 02:36:53,821 reading the wrong one adding 3992 02:36:53,821 --> 02:36:54,454 the assistant dco and assistant 3993 02:36:54,454 --> 02:36:57,454 to the city Manager Deputy 3994 02:36:58,458 --> 02:36:59,293 Chief of Staff Classification 3995 02:36:59,293 --> 02:37:02,893 to exhibit f Auto Allowance I 3996 02:37:05,633 --> 02:37:06,500 just I can't believe you know 3997 02:37:06,500 --> 02:37:10,100 we're being told that we're at 3998 02:37:11,138 --> 02:37:11,972 the word we have to pass it. 3999 02:37:11,972 --> 02:37:12,540 This is we have to make this we 4000 02:37:12,540 --> 02:37:14,940 have to finish this. 4001 02:37:16,176 --> 02:37:16,977 We have to complete this year. 4002 02:37:16,977 --> 02:37:17,344 Procrastination is not my 4003 02:37:17,344 --> 02:37:19,344 emergency. 4004 02:37:21,982 --> 02:37:22,282 I want to state that very 4005 02:37:22,282 --> 02:37:22,916 clear. 4006 02:37:22,916 --> 02:37:25,316 We're talking serious talk 4007 02:37:27,954 --> 02:37:28,655 The mayor has proposed very 4008 02:37:28,655 --> 02:37:29,523 deep cuts in my district while 4009 02:37:29,523 --> 02:37:33,723 at the same time adding a car 4010 02:37:33,960 --> 02:37:34,295 allowance to one of his top 4011 02:37:34,295 --> 02:37:34,995 chiefs. 4012 02:37:34,995 --> 02:37:38,595 I'm not going to be supporting 4013 02:37:39,633 --> 02:37:40,433 this before us and I hope that 4014 02:37:40,433 --> 02:37:41,101 and this is not the first time 4015 02:37:41,101 --> 02:37:43,101 this administration doesn't 4016 02:37:44,338 --> 02:37:45,390 listen to what this council is 4017 02:37:45,390 --> 02:37:45,406 saying or the second or 4018 02:37:45,406 --> 02:37:45,939 the third. 4019 02:37:45,939 --> 02:37:46,340 And I want to make a 4020 02:37:46,340 --> 02:37:47,410 distinction. 4021 02:37:47,410 --> 02:37:50,144 I want to put a line in 4022 02:37:50,144 --> 02:37:50,845 the sand so that the residents 4023 02:37:50,845 --> 02:37:51,579 of the city of San Diego 4024 02:37:51,579 --> 02:37:54,579 understand very clearly what is 4025 02:37:55,982 --> 02:37:56,717 happening not only with this 4026 02:37:56,717 --> 02:37:57,384 budget but with a lot of things 4027 02:37:57,384 --> 02:37:58,219 happening here at City hall. 4028 02:37:58,219 --> 02:38:02,419 So I will be registering a no 4029 02:38:02,856 --> 02:38:03,257 vote. 4030 02:38:03,257 --> 02:38:03,991 All right. 4031 02:38:03,991 --> 02:38:06,991 Thank you, Council member Reno. 4032 02:38:07,762 --> 02:38:08,562 I don't see anyone else on 4033 02:38:08,562 --> 02:38:09,230 the lights I motion I made 4034 02:38:09,230 --> 02:38:12,830 the motion to move the staff 4035 02:38:14,902 --> 02:38:15,636 recommendation as 5 or 4. 4036 02:38:15,636 --> 02:38:19,173 We have a second by council 4037 02:38:19,173 --> 02:38:19,874 member Campbell and please call 4038 02:38:19,874 --> 02:38:23,474 the I sorry the voting system 4039 02:38:24,945 --> 02:38:27,345 Please cast your vote. 4040 02:38:33,754 --> 02:38:34,355 The that passes 5 to 2 with 4041 02:38:34,355 --> 02:38:35,550 Councilmember Moreno and 4042 02:38:35,550 --> 02:38:35,689 Councilmember Fuster voting no 4043 02:38:35,689 --> 02:38:38,890 and Council regular Rivera 4044 02:38:38,325 --> 02:38:39,590 Council member of until absent 4045 02:38:39,590 --> 02:38:39,793 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 4046 02:38:39,793 --> 02:38:43,664 right thank you to the clerk So 4047 02:38:43,664 --> 02:38:44,264 that does pass with five yes 4048 02:38:44,264 --> 02:38:46,664 votes and I appreciate 4049 02:38:48,869 --> 02:38:49,536 everybody's candor in 4050 02:38:49,536 --> 02:38:50,204 communicating to the mayor's 4051 02:38:50,204 --> 02:38:53,204 office where their levels of 4052 02:38:55,760 --> 02:38:55,376 concern exist as we did last 4053 02:38:55,376 --> 02:38:56,430 week. 4054 02:38:56,430 --> 02:38:59,430 We'll look forward to this 4055 02:39:00,848 --> 02:39:01,582 coming back and also part of 4056 02:39:01,582 --> 02:39:02,316 the budget conversation as well 4057 02:39:02,316 --> 02:39:06,516 which is what we do before we 4058 02:39:07,155 --> 02:39:07,821 do the appropriations and 4059 02:39:07,821 --> 02:39:08,189 therefore what we do before 4060 02:39:08,189 --> 02:39:08,823 salaries. 4061 02:39:08,823 --> 02:39:11,823 So with that clerk please 4062 02:39:12,393 --> 02:39:13,227 introduce item 331. 4063 02:39:13,227 --> 02:39:13,861 >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT 4064 02:39:13,861 --> 02:39:14,495 Item 331 is the appeal of 4065 02:39:14,495 --> 02:39:16,495 development permit Coastal 4066 02:39:17,965 --> 02:39:19,965 development permit and 4067 02:39:22,403 --> 02:39:23,104 tentative map project number 4068 02:39:23,104 --> 02:39:23,804 1085883 through regarding 8303 4069 02:39:23,804 --> 02:39:27,404 La Hoya Shores Drive This item 4070 02:39:29,177 --> 02:39:29,492 is not subject to the mayor's 4071 02:39:29,492 --> 02:39:30,210 veto. 4072 02:39:30,210 --> 02:39:31,120 If you'd like to speak to this 4073 02:39:31,120 --> 02:39:34,150 item now's the time to raise 4074 02:39:34,150 --> 02:39:34,682 your hand or press star nine if 4075 02:39:34,682 --> 02:39:35,416 you are in the virtual queue 4076 02:39:35,416 --> 02:39:36,117 and if you were here in council 4077 02:39:36,117 --> 02:39:39,117 chambers please be sure to 4078 02:39:39,787 --> 02:39:40,387 submit a speaker slip to 4079 02:39:40,387 --> 02:39:40,821 the front of the room in 4080 02:39:40,821 --> 02:39:41,256 the clear box. 4081 02:39:41,256 --> 02:39:43,256 >> Thank you. 4082 02:39:45,693 --> 02:39:46,193 Council PRESIDENT All right. 4083 02:39:46,193 --> 02:39:47,270 >> Thank you. 4084 02:39:47,270 --> 02:39:51,227 So for those of you who have 4085 02:39:51,266 --> 02:39:51,833 not been at a quiet judicial 4086 02:39:51,833 --> 02:39:52,567 hearing especially in 4087 02:39:52,567 --> 02:39:54,967 particular in particular appeal 4088 02:39:57,539 --> 02:39:58,339 hearing the way to run a show 4089 02:39:58,339 --> 02:39:58,873 will go is that staff will make 4090 02:39:58,873 --> 02:40:00,873 their presentation. 4091 02:40:02,911 --> 02:40:03,578 We will then invite 4092 02:40:03,578 --> 02:40:04,145 the appellant to make their 4093 02:40:04,145 --> 02:40:06,145 presentation and then 4094 02:40:09,160 --> 02:40:09,683 the applicant will be invited 4095 02:40:09,683 --> 02:40:12,830 to make their presentation. 4096 02:40:14,789 --> 02:40:15,523 After that we will open it up 4097 02:40:15,523 --> 02:40:16,191 for any other public comment 4098 02:40:16,191 --> 02:40:19,191 that might be interested in 4099 02:40:20,695 --> 02:40:21,396 speaking and then from there we 4100 02:40:21,396 --> 02:40:24,996 will turn it over to council 4101 02:40:25,934 --> 02:40:26,601 members for questions comments 4102 02:40:26,601 --> 02:40:27,268 and to entertain a motion. 4103 02:40:27,268 --> 02:40:27,869 So with that staff please 4104 02:40:27,869 --> 02:40:29,869 introduce yourself for 4105 02:40:33,174 --> 02:40:33,841 the record and let us know how 4106 02:40:33,841 --> 02:40:34,275 much time you need for your 4107 02:40:34,275 --> 02:40:34,776 presentation. 4108 02:40:34,776 --> 02:40:36,776 >> Good afternoon. 4109 02:40:39,247 --> 02:40:39,914 I'm Veronica De Nissan, project 4110 02:40:39,914 --> 02:40:40,548 manager with the Development 4111 02:40:40,548 --> 02:40:41,182 Services Department And I 4112 02:40:41,182 --> 02:40:41,550 wanted 20 minutes please. 4113 02:40:41,550 --> 02:40:43,550 All right. 4114 02:40:44,486 --> 02:40:45,153 Begin when you're ready. 4115 02:40:45,153 --> 02:40:47,153 >> Good afternoon, Council 4116 02:40:50,925 --> 02:40:51,593 PRESIDENT Like other council 4117 02:40:51,593 --> 02:40:51,993 members and members of 4118 02:40:51,993 --> 02:40:52,694 the public. 4119 02:40:52,694 --> 02:40:56,294 The item before you is the 83 4120 02:40:57,320 --> 02:41:00,320 or 3 Thrive project Appeal Page 4121 02:41:02,403 --> 02:41:03,700 1085883. 4122 02:41:03,700 --> 02:41:03,839 >> The project site is 4.45 4123 02:41:03,839 --> 02:41:06,839 acres and is located in 4124 02:41:08,944 --> 02:41:09,611 the larger resource plan 4125 02:41:09,611 --> 02:41:10,145 District Single Family zone 4126 02:41:10,145 --> 02:41:12,545 the coastal zone and 4127 02:41:13,982 --> 02:41:14,716 the quarter height limit 4128 02:41:14,716 --> 02:41:15,183 overlay zone within the La Hoya 4129 02:41:15,183 --> 02:41:15,750 Community Plan. 4130 02:41:15,750 --> 02:41:18,150 The site is previously 4131 02:41:20,489 --> 02:41:21,155 developed with an existing 5958 4132 02:41:21,155 --> 02:41:23,555 square foot single dwelling 4133 02:41:26,561 --> 02:41:27,328 unit and an attached garage. 4134 02:41:27,328 --> 02:41:27,929 >> The project site is located 4135 02:41:27,929 --> 02:41:30,329 within an urbanized area 4136 02:41:32,334 --> 02:41:33,100 approximately half a mile 4137 02:41:33,100 --> 02:41:33,668 eastern Pacific Ocean and is 4138 02:41:33,668 --> 02:41:34,235 now between the first public 4139 02:41:34,235 --> 02:41:36,635 roadway and the ocean. 4140 02:41:39,974 --> 02:41:40,709 The site is currently 4141 02:41:40,709 --> 02:41:41,276 accessible via the private coda 4142 02:41:41,276 --> 02:41:43,276 connecting westward to 4143 02:41:45,213 --> 02:41:45,881 the shore drive. 4144 02:41:45,881 --> 02:41:46,448 The project site does not 4145 02:41:46,448 --> 02:41:47,182 contain any sensitive 4146 02:41:47,182 --> 02:41:49,582 biological resources or special 4147 02:41:50,952 --> 02:41:52,952 flood hazard areas. 4148 02:41:55,924 --> 02:41:56,592 The project includes 4149 02:41:56,592 --> 02:41:57,225 consolidating three parcels 4150 02:41:57,225 --> 02:42:00,328 into a single lot for its 4151 02:42:00,328 --> 02:42:00,996 subdivision into six 4152 02:42:00,996 --> 02:42:01,697 residential lots with common 4153 02:42:01,697 --> 02:42:01,963 access to the public right of 4154 02:42:01,963 --> 02:42:03,963 way. 4155 02:42:07,769 --> 02:42:08,369 Demolition of the existing 4156 02:42:08,369 --> 02:42:08,704 single dwelling unit and 4157 02:42:08,704 --> 02:42:09,304 garage. 4158 02:42:09,304 --> 02:42:10,380 Construction of a single 4159 02:42:10,380 --> 02:42:13,342 dwelling unit at each new lodge 4160 02:42:13,342 --> 02:42:14,175 plus an accessory dwelling unit 4161 02:42:14,175 --> 02:42:14,743 on not six only for a total of 4162 02:42:14,743 --> 02:42:16,743 seven dwelling units. 4163 02:42:19,815 --> 02:42:20,515 In addition, the project 4164 02:42:20,515 --> 02:42:21,250 includes underground drainage 4165 02:42:21,250 --> 02:42:24,250 and sewer improvements on first 4166 02:42:25,254 --> 02:42:25,954 quarter connecting to public 4167 02:42:25,954 --> 02:42:28,954 resistance along the La Hoya 4168 02:42:31,326 --> 02:42:31,860 short Drive at. 4169 02:42:31,860 --> 02:42:32,494 As previously noted, 4170 02:42:32,494 --> 02:42:32,928 the project site comprises 4171 02:42:32,928 --> 02:42:34,928 three parcels. 4172 02:42:36,365 --> 02:42:37,310 Parcel one is developed with a 4173 02:42:37,310 --> 02:42:37,699 single dwelling unit and an 4174 02:42:37,699 --> 02:42:38,100 attached garage proposed for 4175 02:42:38,100 --> 02:42:40,100 demolition. 4176 02:42:42,537 --> 02:42:43,238 The existing structure is older 4177 02:42:43,238 --> 02:42:45,638 than 45 years and supports 4178 02:42:48,243 --> 02:42:48,878 historic evaluation. 4179 02:42:48,878 --> 02:42:49,511 City staff determined that 4180 02:42:49,511 --> 02:42:50,212 the property does not meet 4181 02:42:50,212 --> 02:42:52,612 the local designation criteria 4182 02:42:53,515 --> 02:42:54,160 as an individually significant 4183 02:42:54,160 --> 02:42:56,160 historic resource. 4184 02:42:57,686 --> 02:42:58,654 However, Oscoda shown in yellow 4185 02:42:58,654 --> 02:42:59,388 is a 60 foot wide strip of land 4186 02:42:59,388 --> 02:43:00,880 identified as a shared easement 4187 02:43:00,880 --> 02:43:03,880 in the original deed recorded 4188 02:43:07,930 --> 02:43:08,597 in 1949. 4189 02:43:08,597 --> 02:43:09,264 >> The proposed subdivision 4190 02:43:09,264 --> 02:43:12,264 would result in six numbered 4191 02:43:12,601 --> 02:43:13,268 residential lots and one letter 4192 02:43:13,268 --> 02:43:13,902 not designated as a private 4193 02:43:13,902 --> 02:43:16,902 access road to the north. 4194 02:43:18,207 --> 02:43:18,874 The project involves 4195 02:43:18,874 --> 02:43:21,874 the construction of a single 4196 02:43:22,440 --> 02:43:25,644 dwelling unit at each new large 4197 02:43:27,983 --> 02:43:28,684 ranging from 11,739 to 6000 4198 02:43:28,684 --> 02:43:29,251 16,270ft with pool facilities 4199 02:43:29,251 --> 02:43:29,685 and landscape related 4200 02:43:29,685 --> 02:43:31,685 improvements. 4201 02:43:34,857 --> 02:43:35,524 Lot six would also include an 4202 02:43:35,524 --> 02:43:37,924 accessory dwelling unit and 4203 02:43:38,561 --> 02:43:38,894 have clear access to the first 4204 02:43:38,894 --> 02:43:39,495 quarter. 4205 02:43:39,495 --> 02:43:41,895 City staff reviewed and 4206 02:43:43,499 --> 02:43:44,165 accepted technical study for 4207 02:43:44,165 --> 02:43:44,867 the project which concluded 4208 02:43:44,867 --> 02:43:45,500 that the site is suitable for 4209 02:43:45,500 --> 02:43:47,500 the proposed development. 4210 02:43:49,705 --> 02:43:50,372 In addition, a preliminary 4211 02:43:50,372 --> 02:43:51,600 drainage study prepared for 4212 02:43:51,600 --> 02:43:53,406 the project complies with 4213 02:43:55,177 --> 02:43:55,510 current stormwater regulations 4214 02:43:55,510 --> 02:43:56,245 . 4215 02:43:56,245 --> 02:43:56,845 All improvements are subject to 4216 02:43:56,845 --> 02:43:57,446 the approval of the city 4217 02:43:57,446 --> 02:44:00,446 engineer at the time of 4218 02:44:01,183 --> 02:44:03,183 the construction permit. 4219 02:44:06,722 --> 02:44:07,422 >> The project is surrounded by 4220 02:44:07,422 --> 02:44:08,570 one and two stories single 4221 02:44:08,570 --> 02:44:08,723 units with site amenities 4222 02:44:08,723 --> 02:44:09,191 including tennis courts and 4223 02:44:09,191 --> 02:44:11,191 swimming pools. 4224 02:44:13,429 --> 02:44:14,630 The project aligns with 4225 02:44:14,630 --> 02:44:14,730 the community character of 4226 02:44:14,730 --> 02:44:15,297 the surrounding neighborhood 4227 02:44:15,297 --> 02:44:17,697 and is consistent with 4228 02:44:18,967 --> 02:44:19,635 the average development 4229 02:44:19,635 --> 02:44:20,302 patterns within a 300 foot 4230 02:44:20,302 --> 02:44:21,300 radius of the project site. 4231 02:44:21,300 --> 02:44:24,507 As required by the La Hoya 4232 02:44:24,507 --> 02:44:25,241 Schwartz Plan District 4233 02:44:25,241 --> 02:44:25,841 Ordinance, the project complies 4234 02:44:25,841 --> 02:44:28,241 with all the development 4235 02:44:31,913 --> 02:44:32,648 standards required by the b 4236 02:44:32,648 --> 02:44:33,315 zone including density building 4237 02:44:33,315 --> 02:44:36,315 setback floor area ratio not 4238 02:44:37,253 --> 02:44:37,887 coverage and the 30 foot 4239 02:44:37,887 --> 02:44:38,454 maximum structural height 4240 02:44:38,454 --> 02:44:40,854 allowed in the coastal 4241 02:44:42,325 --> 02:44:43,590 limitation overlay zone. 4242 02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:45,459 >> The required approval a 4243 02:44:48,764 --> 02:44:49,465 process for tentative map for a 4244 02:44:49,465 --> 02:44:50,200 land population creating five 4245 02:44:50,200 --> 02:44:53,800 or more parcels a process three 4246 02:44:55,138 --> 02:44:55,772 site apartment permit for 4247 02:44:55,772 --> 02:44:56,506 the development of a major 4248 02:44:56,506 --> 02:45:00,106 project in the La Hoya Resource 4249 02:45:00,209 --> 02:45:00,910 Plan District a process to 4250 02:45:00,910 --> 02:45:01,577 coastal development permit for 4251 02:45:01,577 --> 02:45:02,211 the increase in density and 4252 02:45:02,211 --> 02:45:04,611 demolition of an existing 4253 02:45:05,882 --> 02:45:06,481 single dwelling unit. 4254 02:45:06,481 --> 02:45:07,160 The project includes an 4255 02:45:07,160 --> 02:45:09,160 addendum to program 4256 02:45:12,989 --> 02:45:13,690 Environmental Impact Report pr 4257 02:45:13,690 --> 02:45:14,357 number 920199 for the La Hoya 4258 02:45:14,357 --> 02:45:16,757 and Pacific Beach Community 4259 02:45:18,895 --> 02:45:19,629 Plan and local Coastal Program 4260 02:45:19,629 --> 02:45:20,330 Land Use Plan updates prepared 4261 02:45:20,330 --> 02:45:22,730 in accordance with 30 islands. 4262 02:45:24,833 --> 02:45:25,535 These consolidated approvals 4263 02:45:25,535 --> 02:45:26,202 were presented to the Planning 4264 02:45:26,202 --> 02:45:26,502 Commission on DECEMBER 4th, 4265 02:45:26,502 --> 02:45:28,502 2025. 4266 02:45:31,374 --> 02:45:31,974 The Planning Commission voted 4267 02:45:31,974 --> 02:45:32,674 five zero to to approve 4268 02:45:32,674 --> 02:45:35,674 the project and adopt addendum 4269 02:45:36,446 --> 02:45:39,446 to p r number 920199 on 4270 02:45:42,185 --> 02:45:42,885 DECEMBER 17th, 2025 an appeal 4271 02:45:42,885 --> 02:45:43,386 was filed by Kenneth Jones of 4272 02:45:43,386 --> 02:45:45,386 Fletcher Max llp. 4273 02:45:49,225 --> 02:45:49,960 Representing Arthur in 4274 02:45:49,960 --> 02:45:50,593 the Cabinet cite citing factual 4275 02:45:50,593 --> 02:45:52,993 error conflicts with other 4276 02:45:53,429 --> 02:45:54,300 matters and findings not 4277 02:45:54,300 --> 02:45:54,364 supported of grounds for 4278 02:45:54,364 --> 02:45:56,364 appeal. 4279 02:45:59,569 --> 02:46:01,969 Legal standard for appeal. 4280 02:46:03,740 --> 02:46:04,507 Pursuant to Civil Code Section 4281 02:46:04,507 --> 02:46:05,175 1120508c An appeal of a process 4282 02:46:05,175 --> 02:46:08,175 for decision MAY be granted 4283 02:46:10,279 --> 02:46:10,914 with evidence supporting one of 4284 02:46:10,914 --> 02:46:11,548 the following grounds for 4285 02:46:11,548 --> 02:46:13,948 appeal factual error When 4286 02:46:16,119 --> 02:46:16,786 the statements or evidence 4287 02:46:16,786 --> 02:46:17,320 relied upon by the decision 4288 02:46:17,320 --> 02:46:17,954 maker when approving 4289 02:46:17,954 --> 02:46:19,954 conditionally approving or 4290 02:46:22,525 --> 02:46:23,192 denying a permit map or other 4291 02:46:23,192 --> 02:46:23,727 matter where inaccurate new 4292 02:46:23,727 --> 02:46:25,727 information when new 4293 02:46:28,531 --> 02:46:29,265 information is available to 4294 02:46:29,265 --> 02:46:29,966 the applicant or the interested 4295 02:46:29,966 --> 02:46:30,532 person that was not available 4296 02:46:30,532 --> 02:46:32,532 through that person's 4297 02:46:34,404 --> 02:46:35,500 reasonable efforts or due 4298 02:46:35,500 --> 02:46:35,438 diligence at the time of 4299 02:46:35,438 --> 02:46:37,438 the decision. 4300 02:46:40,900 --> 02:46:40,644 Findings that supported when 4301 02:46:40,644 --> 02:46:41,177 the decision maker stated 4302 02:46:41,177 --> 02:46:41,878 findings to approve 4303 02:46:41,878 --> 02:46:44,278 conditionally approve or deny 4304 02:46:46,816 --> 02:46:47,350 the permit map or other matter 4305 02:46:47,350 --> 02:46:48,180 are not supported by 4306 02:46:48,180 --> 02:46:50,418 the information provided to 4307 02:46:52,555 --> 02:46:53,256 the decision maker. 4308 02:46:53,256 --> 02:46:53,857 Conflicts when the decision to 4309 02:46:53,857 --> 02:46:54,557 approve or conditionally 4310 02:46:54,557 --> 02:46:58,157 approve or deny the permit map 4311 02:46:58,828 --> 02:46:59,496 or other matter is in conflict 4312 02:46:59,496 --> 02:47:03,960 with a land use plan issued 4313 02:47:04,340 --> 02:47:04,801 council policy or the municipal 4314 02:47:04,801 --> 02:47:05,502 code or city what significance 4315 02:47:05,502 --> 02:47:08,502 when the matter being appealed 4316 02:47:10,390 --> 02:47:12,439 is a citywide significance 4317 02:47:15,245 --> 02:47:15,812 appeal issue number one 4318 02:47:15,812 --> 02:47:16,479 unresolved easement in 4319 02:47:16,479 --> 02:47:20,790 the right of way consent is 4320 02:47:21,251 --> 02:47:21,951 required before utilities are 4321 02:47:21,951 --> 02:47:22,652 installed within this private 4322 02:47:22,652 --> 02:47:23,386 right of way and any reliance 4323 02:47:23,386 --> 02:47:25,786 on easement language concerning 4324 02:47:27,724 --> 02:47:28,425 public utilities does not 4325 02:47:28,425 --> 02:47:29,590 authorize private drainage and 4326 02:47:29,590 --> 02:47:31,459 sewer facilities serving a 4327 02:47:33,530 --> 02:47:33,997 single development without 4328 02:47:33,997 --> 02:47:34,698 owner approval. 4329 02:47:34,698 --> 02:47:35,399 The claimed easement its scope 4330 02:47:35,399 --> 02:47:38,399 and any required consents must 4331 02:47:39,970 --> 02:47:40,703 be completed in resolved prior 4332 02:47:40,703 --> 02:47:43,703 to city approval Staff response 4333 02:47:46,376 --> 02:47:46,977 to appeal Issue number one 4334 02:47:46,977 --> 02:47:47,644 The disposition is that 4335 02:47:47,644 --> 02:47:50,440 the applicant MAY construct 4336 02:47:51,140 --> 02:47:51,748 the proposed underground 4337 02:47:51,748 --> 02:47:52,349 drainage and sewer improvements 4338 02:47:52,349 --> 02:47:53,500 within the first quarter 4339 02:47:53,500 --> 02:47:56,500 because of the original grant 4340 02:48:01,925 --> 02:48:02,591 deed document number 43967 4341 02:48:02,591 --> 02:48:03,260 recorded in MAY 18th 1949 4342 02:48:03,260 --> 02:48:06,260 states that the 60 foot wide 4343 02:48:08,765 --> 02:48:09,466 strip of land or parcel is to 4344 02:48:09,466 --> 02:48:09,933 be used for road and street 4345 02:48:09,933 --> 02:48:10,601 purposes and for 4346 02:48:10,601 --> 02:48:13,100 the installation repair and 4347 02:48:14,438 --> 02:48:14,805 replacement of public 4348 02:48:14,805 --> 02:48:15,505 utilities. 4349 02:48:15,505 --> 02:48:16,240 The proposed improvements are 4350 02:48:16,240 --> 02:48:19,240 designed to connect the subject 4351 02:48:20,410 --> 02:48:21,440 property to an approved public 4352 02:48:21,440 --> 02:48:23,444 utility system and public 4353 02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:26,883 drainage system Installation of 4354 02:48:26,883 --> 02:48:27,551 private utility laterals within 4355 02:48:27,551 --> 02:48:29,951 private roadways and utility 4356 02:48:32,422 --> 02:48:32,989 easements is a customary and 4357 02:48:32,989 --> 02:48:33,523 accepted practice for 4358 02:48:33,523 --> 02:48:34,224 the improvements are 4359 02:48:34,224 --> 02:48:36,624 constructed in accordance with 4360 02:48:38,295 --> 02:48:38,962 city standards and did not 4361 02:48:38,962 --> 02:48:39,595 unreasonably interfere with 4362 02:48:39,595 --> 02:48:41,995 existing access or utility 4363 02:48:44,501 --> 02:48:45,202 rights. 4364 02:48:45,202 --> 02:48:45,803 The extent of the improvements 4365 02:48:45,803 --> 02:48:46,436 would not interfere with 4366 02:48:46,436 --> 02:48:48,836 existing access or utility 4367 02:48:50,441 --> 02:48:51,141 rights since it would not 4368 02:48:51,141 --> 02:48:51,608 encumber a significant portion 4369 02:48:51,608 --> 02:48:52,176 of the easement. 4370 02:48:52,176 --> 02:48:54,576 The city, in reviewing 4371 02:48:55,879 --> 02:48:56,547 the original granted and 4372 02:48:56,547 --> 02:48:57,247 the project determined that 4373 02:48:57,247 --> 02:48:57,781 the proposed improvements fall 4374 02:48:57,781 --> 02:49:00,181 within the scope of 4375 02:49:02,420 --> 02:49:02,986 the recorded easement and 4376 02:49:02,986 --> 02:49:03,386 comply with applicable 4377 02:49:03,386 --> 02:49:04,540 regulations. 4378 02:49:04,540 --> 02:49:06,454 The project permit includes 4379 02:49:08,258 --> 02:49:08,859 conditions of approval to 4380 02:49:08,859 --> 02:49:09,426 ensure conformance with 4381 02:49:09,426 --> 02:49:10,160 the current version of 4382 02:49:10,160 --> 02:49:12,560 the Stormwater Standards Manual 4383 02:49:13,564 --> 02:49:14,231 and drainage design Manual. 4384 02:49:14,231 --> 02:49:17,231 The city does not interfere 4385 02:49:17,334 --> 02:49:20,334 with third party disputes over 4386 02:49:24,241 --> 02:49:24,942 the use of private easements. 4387 02:49:24,942 --> 02:49:25,576 Population number two right of 4388 02:49:25,576 --> 02:49:27,976 way scope public utilities 4389 02:49:30,181 --> 02:49:30,713 versus private improvements. 4390 02:49:30,713 --> 02:49:31,415 The right of way as 4391 02:49:31,415 --> 02:49:33,815 characterized by the applicant 4392 02:49:36,587 --> 02:49:37,540 allows use for road and street 4393 02:49:37,540 --> 02:49:37,721 purposes and for 4394 02:49:37,721 --> 02:49:38,289 the installation repair and 4395 02:49:38,289 --> 02:49:38,656 replacement of public 4396 02:49:38,656 --> 02:49:40,656 utilities. 4397 02:49:42,392 --> 02:49:42,994 The projects drainage and sewer 4398 02:49:42,994 --> 02:49:43,727 improvements are private 4399 02:49:43,727 --> 02:49:46,727 serving the project rather than 4400 02:49:47,831 --> 02:49:48,566 constituting public utility 4401 02:49:48,566 --> 02:49:49,199 infrastructure and that exceeds 4402 02:49:49,199 --> 02:49:52,199 the scope of any easements 4403 02:49:54,338 --> 02:49:55,390 permitting public utilities. 4404 02:49:55,390 --> 02:49:55,706 City approval should not rely 4405 02:49:55,706 --> 02:49:58,106 on private works shoehorned 4406 02:49:59,744 --> 02:50:00,444 into public utility easement 4407 02:50:00,444 --> 02:50:01,111 language without a clear legal 4408 02:50:01,111 --> 02:50:03,511 basis and documented consent 4409 02:50:06,784 --> 02:50:07,652 from all necessary parties. 4410 02:50:07,652 --> 02:50:10,652 Staff response to Appeal Issue 4411 02:50:11,155 --> 02:50:11,722 number two As stated before 4412 02:50:11,722 --> 02:50:12,423 the will be determined 4413 02:50:12,423 --> 02:50:15,423 the construction of the storm 4414 02:50:16,961 --> 02:50:17,695 water and sewer improvements is 4415 02:50:17,695 --> 02:50:18,363 permitted based on the language 4416 02:50:18,363 --> 02:50:21,363 in the original granted for 4417 02:50:22,699 --> 02:50:23,401 the easement and what is 4418 02:50:23,401 --> 02:50:24,101 customary practice for private 4419 02:50:24,101 --> 02:50:24,735 Internet infrastructure being 4420 02:50:24,735 --> 02:50:27,135 tied into public systems. 4421 02:50:28,940 --> 02:50:29,573 The appellant interprets 4422 02:50:29,573 --> 02:50:32,573 the term public utility as 4423 02:50:34,145 --> 02:50:34,879 requiring that all facilities 4424 02:50:34,879 --> 02:50:35,613 within the easement be publicly 4425 02:50:35,613 --> 02:50:38,613 owned or operated Private sewer 4426 02:50:40,151 --> 02:50:40,818 laterals, drainage conditions 4427 02:50:40,818 --> 02:50:41,519 and similar facilities that 4428 02:50:41,519 --> 02:50:43,919 serve individual properties by 4429 02:50:46,223 --> 02:50:46,858 connecting to a public utility 4430 02:50:46,858 --> 02:50:47,358 system are allowed within 4431 02:50:47,358 --> 02:50:47,959 utility easements. 4432 02:50:47,959 --> 02:50:49,959 The proposed stormwater 4433 02:50:52,630 --> 02:50:52,796 facility is considered utility 4434 02:50:52,796 --> 02:50:55,196 infrastructure that connects to 4435 02:50:57,869 --> 02:50:58,536 and relies upon a public system 4436 02:50:58,536 --> 02:50:58,870 for discharge via a curb 4437 02:50:58,870 --> 02:50:59,571 outlet. 4438 02:50:59,571 --> 02:51:02,571 The proposed sewer lateral is 4439 02:51:03,974 --> 02:51:04,675 designed to connect to 4440 02:51:04,675 --> 02:51:05,275 the public through Remain via 4441 02:51:05,275 --> 02:51:07,675 an existing public sewer 4442 02:51:08,179 --> 02:51:08,780 easement within four quarters. 4443 02:51:08,780 --> 02:51:10,780 Population number three. 4444 02:51:13,751 --> 02:51:14,352 Ownership and authority within 4445 02:51:14,352 --> 02:51:14,986 the private right of way 4446 02:51:14,986 --> 02:51:18,586 The right of way parcel is 4447 02:51:19,356 --> 02:51:20,580 privately owned and undivided 4448 02:51:20,580 --> 02:51:20,725 fee by five core owners 4449 02:51:20,725 --> 02:51:21,425 including the applicant and 4450 02:51:21,425 --> 02:51:24,425 there is no recorded easement 4451 02:51:25,864 --> 02:51:26,497 bordering that parcel in favor 4452 02:51:26,497 --> 02:51:27,232 of the project's proposed 4453 02:51:27,232 --> 02:51:29,632 private stormwater discharge or 4454 02:51:31,235 --> 02:51:31,936 the other owners interests. 4455 02:51:31,936 --> 02:51:32,636 The applicant lacks a written 4456 02:51:32,636 --> 02:51:35,636 consent from the other owners 4457 02:51:37,141 --> 02:51:37,742 for such use. 4458 02:51:37,742 --> 02:51:38,443 This raises fundamental 4459 02:51:38,443 --> 02:51:39,143 authority and access concerns 4460 02:51:39,143 --> 02:51:42,143 that should be resolved before 4461 02:51:43,348 --> 02:51:44,115 any city approval dependent on 4462 02:51:44,115 --> 02:51:48,315 the use of the private right of 4463 02:51:48,953 --> 02:51:49,721 way. 4464 02:51:49,721 --> 02:51:50,153 Staff Responds to Appeal Issue 4465 02:51:50,153 --> 02:51:50,688 number three. 4466 02:51:50,688 --> 02:51:53,880 The city's review of 4467 02:51:55,260 --> 02:51:55,693 the original granting lady to 4468 02:51:55,693 --> 02:51:56,260 determine that the right to 4469 02:51:56,260 --> 02:51:58,260 allow construction of 4470 02:51:59,831 --> 02:52:00,532 the stormwater infrastructure 4471 02:52:00,532 --> 02:52:01,232 and sewer lines are permitted 4472 02:52:01,232 --> 02:52:04,232 based on the easement language 4473 02:52:05,937 --> 02:52:06,404 And because they both tie into 4474 02:52:06,404 --> 02:52:07,105 public systems. 4475 02:52:07,105 --> 02:52:09,505 These improvements comply with 4476 02:52:11,543 --> 02:52:12,210 applicable regulations. 4477 02:52:12,210 --> 02:52:12,910 The city does not interfere 4478 02:52:12,910 --> 02:52:15,910 with third party disputes over 4479 02:52:17,616 --> 02:52:18,316 the use of private easements. 4480 02:52:18,316 --> 02:52:18,983 Appeal Issue number four. 4481 02:52:18,983 --> 02:52:20,983 Drainage system concerns 4482 02:52:23,989 --> 02:52:24,722 requiring commission direction 4483 02:52:24,722 --> 02:52:25,355 In addition to the easement and 4484 02:52:25,355 --> 02:52:27,755 authority issues above our 4485 02:52:29,793 --> 02:52:30,362 clients request that 4486 02:52:30,362 --> 02:52:30,962 the Commission ensure 4487 02:52:30,962 --> 02:52:31,530 the following issues are 4488 02:52:31,530 --> 02:52:32,230 addressed to the city 4489 02:52:32,230 --> 02:52:34,630 satisfaction and reflected as 4490 02:52:35,467 --> 02:52:35,833 enforceable conditions of 4491 02:52:35,833 --> 02:52:36,101 approval. 4492 02:52:36,101 --> 02:52:38,101 4.1. 4493 02:52:40,472 --> 02:52:40,805 Disruption during construction 4494 02:52:40,805 --> 02:52:41,106 . 4495 02:52:41,106 --> 02:52:41,806 4.2. 4496 02:52:41,806 --> 02:52:43,806 Maintenance Responsibilities. 4497 02:52:45,777 --> 02:52:46,378 4.3 Potential Drainage Problems 4498 02:52:46,378 --> 02:52:48,378 and downstream impacts. 4499 02:52:50,281 --> 02:52:50,682 4.4 Risk of backup at a 12 inch 4500 02:52:50,682 --> 02:52:52,682 pipe outlet. 4501 02:52:54,720 --> 02:52:56,720 4.5 Hedge replacement and 4502 02:53:00,910 --> 02:53:00,792 surface restoration. 4503 02:53:00,792 --> 02:53:01,191 Staff Response to Appeal Issue 4504 02:53:01,191 --> 02:53:03,191 number 4.1. 4505 02:53:05,300 --> 02:53:05,330 Disruption during construction 4506 02:53:05,330 --> 02:53:05,997 . 4507 02:53:05,997 --> 02:53:06,598 Austerity policies regarding 4508 02:53:06,598 --> 02:53:08,598 Construction Act venues 4509 02:53:11,302 --> 02:53:11,937 including emergency access and 4510 02:53:11,937 --> 02:53:12,604 ingress and egress issues. 4511 02:53:12,604 --> 02:53:15,604 Hours of operation and noise 4512 02:53:17,409 --> 02:53:18,430 control that will be required 4513 02:53:18,430 --> 02:53:18,676 as part of the ministerial 4514 02:53:18,676 --> 02:53:19,411 review process and will be 4515 02:53:19,411 --> 02:53:22,411 verified to the satisfaction of 4516 02:53:22,713 --> 02:53:23,381 the city engineer. 4517 02:53:23,381 --> 02:53:24,490 The project is subject to 4518 02:53:24,490 --> 02:53:24,650 temporary construction best 4519 02:53:24,650 --> 02:53:26,650 management practices for 4520 02:53:27,688 --> 02:53:28,320 stormwater standards, 4521 02:53:28,320 --> 02:53:29,200 construction work hours of 4522 02:53:29,200 --> 02:53:31,420 operation and noise regulation 4523 02:53:33,392 --> 02:53:34,192 are applicable. 4524 02:53:34,192 --> 02:53:34,893 Fire safety and access during 4525 02:53:34,893 --> 02:53:37,293 construction are required for 4526 02:53:38,630 --> 02:53:39,397 sending a pharmacy standard a7. 4527 02:53:39,397 --> 02:53:39,998 The project is also subject to 4528 02:53:39,998 --> 02:53:42,398 street damage repair to 4529 02:53:44,360 --> 02:53:44,736 existing pavement from 4530 02:53:44,736 --> 02:53:45,237 excavation work determined by 4531 02:53:45,237 --> 02:53:47,237 the city engineer. 4532 02:53:49,841 --> 02:53:50,108 Staff response to Appeal Issue 4533 02:53:50,108 --> 02:53:50,809 4.2. 4534 02:53:50,809 --> 02:53:52,809 Maintenance Responsibilities. 4535 02:53:55,347 --> 02:53:55,981 Permit Conditions required. 4536 02:53:55,981 --> 02:53:56,648 Stormwater Mitigation and 4537 02:53:56,648 --> 02:53:57,315 Discharge Control Management 4538 02:53:57,315 --> 02:54:00,315 Plan to the satisfaction of 4539 02:54:01,286 --> 02:54:01,953 the City Engineer as an 4540 02:54:01,953 --> 02:54:02,588 encroachment Maintenance and 4541 02:54:02,588 --> 02:54:03,221 removal agreement will be 4542 02:54:03,221 --> 02:54:05,621 required for the proposed 4543 02:54:07,426 --> 02:54:08,930 private storm drain right of 4544 02:54:08,930 --> 02:54:08,827 way encroachment into the La 4545 02:54:08,827 --> 02:54:09,194 Hoya Schwartz Drive Curb outlet 4546 02:54:09,194 --> 02:54:11,194 discharge. 4547 02:54:12,231 --> 02:54:12,898 Indemnification and insurance 4548 02:54:12,898 --> 02:54:13,632 between property owners is a 4549 02:54:13,632 --> 02:54:16,632 third party matter not enforced 4550 02:54:17,970 --> 02:54:18,804 by the city. 4551 02:54:18,804 --> 02:54:21,804 Staff response to Appeal Issue 4552 02:54:22,574 --> 02:54:23,175 number 4.3 Potential drainage 4553 02:54:23,175 --> 02:54:23,508 Problems and downstream 4554 02:54:23,508 --> 02:54:25,508 Impacts. 4555 02:54:28,313 --> 02:54:29,140 A drainage study for 4556 02:54:29,140 --> 02:54:29,714 the proposed project includes 4557 02:54:29,714 --> 02:54:32,114 peak flow attenuation details. 4558 02:54:33,317 --> 02:54:33,986 The project is required to 4559 02:54:33,986 --> 02:54:34,686 mitigate developed condition 4560 02:54:34,686 --> 02:54:38,286 peak flows to levels below pre 4561 02:54:38,590 --> 02:54:39,291 developed conditions to 4562 02:54:39,291 --> 02:54:39,658 the satisfaction of the city 4563 02:54:39,658 --> 02:54:40,359 engineer. 4564 02:54:40,359 --> 02:54:43,359 Runoff will be fully contained 4565 02:54:44,797 --> 02:54:45,464 in the proposed storm drain 4566 02:54:45,464 --> 02:54:46,980 system and the corresponding 4567 02:54:46,980 --> 02:54:48,498 phasing will be determined 4568 02:54:49,868 --> 02:54:50,602 through a hydraulic analysis to 4569 02:54:50,602 --> 02:54:51,235 ensure the proposed development 4570 02:54:51,235 --> 02:54:51,870 does not cause flooding of 4571 02:54:51,870 --> 02:54:53,870 surrounding properties to 4572 02:54:55,673 --> 02:54:56,410 the satisfaction of the city 4573 02:54:56,410 --> 02:54:56,742 engineer. 4574 02:54:56,742 --> 02:54:57,443 The proposed storm drain will 4575 02:54:57,443 --> 02:55:00,443 discharge directly to the curb 4576 02:55:01,780 --> 02:55:02,581 line in De La Hoya Shores right 4577 02:55:02,581 --> 02:55:05,581 via a proposed curb alert 4578 02:55:05,884 --> 02:55:07,884 system. 4579 02:55:10,389 --> 02:55:10,823 Staff response to Appeal Issue 4580 02:55:10,823 --> 02:55:11,657 number 4.4. 4581 02:55:11,657 --> 02:55:15,257 Risk of backup at the 12 inch 4582 02:55:15,361 --> 02:55:16,950 btc outlets. 4583 02:55:16,950 --> 02:55:16,762 >> Permit conditions require an 4584 02:55:16,762 --> 02:55:17,430 encroachment maintenance and 4585 02:55:17,430 --> 02:55:19,430 removal agreement including 4586 02:55:21,166 --> 02:55:21,867 specifications to prevent 4587 02:55:21,867 --> 02:55:22,601 potential clogging or back up 4588 02:55:22,601 --> 02:55:25,971 of the curb outlet discharge or 4589 02:55:25,971 --> 02:55:26,572 other potential clogging 4590 02:55:26,572 --> 02:55:27,206 impacts associated with 4591 02:55:27,206 --> 02:55:27,506 the proposed private storm 4592 02:55:27,506 --> 02:55:28,207 drain. 4593 02:55:28,207 --> 02:55:30,142 This agreement will be subject 4594 02:55:30,142 --> 02:55:34,342 to review by the city The city 4595 02:55:35,713 --> 02:55:36,448 engineer. 4596 02:55:36,448 --> 02:55:37,149 Staff Responsibility Number 4.5 4597 02:55:37,149 --> 02:55:39,549 Hedge replacement and surface 4598 02:55:41,420 --> 02:55:42,121 restoration in all graded 4599 02:55:42,121 --> 02:55:45,121 disturbed or eroded areas that 4600 02:55:46,459 --> 02:55:47,159 will not be permanently paved 4601 02:55:47,159 --> 02:55:47,860 or covered by structures shall 4602 02:55:47,860 --> 02:55:48,227 be permanently revegetated and 4603 02:55:48,227 --> 02:55:50,227 irrigated. 4604 02:55:52,565 --> 02:55:53,232 Updated landscape condition 4605 02:55:53,232 --> 02:55:53,866 number 26 required complete 4606 02:55:53,866 --> 02:55:55,866 construction documents for 4607 02:55:57,670 --> 02:55:58,370 the premeditation and hydro 4608 02:55:58,370 --> 02:55:59,710 sealing of all disturbed land 4609 02:55:59,710 --> 02:55:59,772 in accordance with the city of 4610 02:55:59,772 --> 02:56:02,172 San Diego Landscape standards. 4611 02:56:03,475 --> 02:56:04,109 The stormwater defined manner 4612 02:56:04,109 --> 02:56:04,777 and to the satisfaction of 4613 02:56:04,777 --> 02:56:07,777 the city and the Development 4614 02:56:08,581 --> 02:56:10,581 Services Department. 4615 02:56:14,253 --> 02:56:14,821 Staff Recommendation. 4616 02:56:14,821 --> 02:56:15,553 >> Staff has reviewed 4617 02:56:15,553 --> 02:56:16,288 the proposal and concluded that 4618 02:56:16,288 --> 02:56:18,688 the improvements are consistent 4619 02:56:19,357 --> 02:56:19,992 with the purpose and intent of 4620 02:56:19,992 --> 02:56:20,626 the recorded easement and 4621 02:56:20,626 --> 02:56:21,600 the applicant's rights to 4622 02:56:21,600 --> 02:56:23,600 the easement. 4623 02:56:24,664 --> 02:56:25,364 Further, the project is 4624 02:56:25,364 --> 02:56:25,998 conditioned to comply with all 4625 02:56:25,998 --> 02:56:28,398 standard city policies and 4626 02:56:28,868 --> 02:56:29,468 regulations for construction 4627 02:56:29,468 --> 02:56:30,360 access and maintenance. 4628 02:56:30,360 --> 02:56:30,770 Staff recommends that 4629 02:56:30,770 --> 02:56:34,730 the Council deny the appeal and 4630 02:56:34,730 --> 02:56:34,673 affirm the Planning 4631 02:56:34,673 --> 02:56:35,341 Commission's decision to 4632 02:56:35,341 --> 02:56:37,341 approve with modifications. 4633 02:56:38,844 --> 02:56:39,645 Coastal Development permit 4634 02:56:39,645 --> 02:56:41,645 number 3213964 Site Development 4635 02:56:43,149 --> 02:56:45,149 Permit Number 3213965. 4636 02:56:48,688 --> 02:56:51,880 Tentative map number 3213966 In 4637 02:56:51,624 --> 02:56:53,624 adopting addendum number 4638 02:56:56,620 --> 02:56:56,863 21285883 to be r number 912199 4639 02:56:56,863 --> 02:57:00,463 The intention to the staff and 4640 02:57:00,633 --> 02:57:01,233 the applicant team are 4641 02:57:01,233 --> 02:57:03,233 available for questions. 4642 02:57:06,205 --> 02:57:08,205 Thank you. 4643 02:57:11,277 --> 02:57:11,944 I have I'm sorry. 4644 02:57:11,944 --> 02:57:14,344 >> Staff has advised for 4645 02:57:15,648 --> 02:57:16,249 conditions and provided to new 4646 02:57:16,249 --> 02:57:16,583 conditions that will as 4647 02:57:16,583 --> 02:57:18,583 follows. 4648 02:57:31,197 --> 02:57:31,964 Oh yeah. 4649 02:57:31,964 --> 02:57:34,964 Copies of these conditions have 4650 02:57:36,670 --> 02:57:39,670 been provided in hard copy. 4651 02:57:41,474 --> 02:57:42,175 The there is engineering 4652 02:57:42,175 --> 02:57:42,842 condition number 25 addressing 4653 02:57:42,842 --> 02:57:45,242 requirements of the drainage 4654 02:57:46,913 --> 02:57:49,313 study to landscape conditions 4655 02:57:51,518 --> 02:57:52,317 addressing requirements of 4656 02:57:52,317 --> 02:57:55,317 the replacement of the existing 4657 02:57:56,322 --> 02:57:57,560 hedges where needed to public 4658 02:57:57,560 --> 02:57:59,456 utilities conditions to address 4659 02:58:01,628 --> 02:58:02,362 sewer facility requirements and 4660 02:58:02,362 --> 02:58:05,362 one one tentative map condition 4661 02:58:06,766 --> 02:58:07,434 and requiring drainage and 4662 02:58:07,434 --> 02:58:08,134 sewer improvements to comply 4663 02:58:08,134 --> 02:58:08,568 with the California Civil Code 4664 02:58:08,568 --> 02:58:10,568 requirements. 4665 02:58:12,338 --> 02:58:12,872 Thank you. 4666 02:58:12,872 --> 02:58:13,238 >> All right. 4667 02:58:13,238 --> 02:58:13,839 Thank you. 4668 02:58:13,839 --> 02:58:14,274 Now that concludes your 4669 02:58:14,274 --> 02:58:16,274 presentation. 4670 02:58:16,776 --> 02:58:17,443 Right. 4671 02:58:17,443 --> 02:58:17,877 >> This concludes my 4672 02:58:17,877 --> 02:58:18,244 presentation. 4673 02:58:18,244 --> 02:58:18,544 Thank you. 4674 02:58:18,544 --> 02:58:18,911 Okay. 4675 02:58:18,911 --> 02:58:19,479 Thank you. 4676 02:58:19,479 --> 02:58:22,479 Before I turn over to 4677 02:58:22,815 --> 02:58:23,415 the appellant, I'll turn it 4678 02:58:23,415 --> 02:58:23,983 over to the Officer city 4679 02:58:23,983 --> 02:58:24,417 attorney for comment. 4680 02:58:24,417 --> 02:58:26,417 >> Thank you. 4681 02:58:26,886 --> 02:58:27,654 Council PRESIDENT. 4682 02:58:27,654 --> 02:58:28,321 When hearing and deciding upon 4683 02:58:28,321 --> 02:58:31,321 a project appeal the Council 4684 02:58:32,592 --> 02:58:33,226 MAY affirm reverse or modify 4685 02:58:33,226 --> 02:58:35,226 the Planning Commission's 4686 02:58:36,795 --> 02:58:37,397 decision a decision to reverse 4687 02:58:37,397 --> 02:58:38,970 or modify the Planning 4688 02:58:38,970 --> 02:58:38,698 Commission's decision must be 4689 02:58:38,698 --> 02:58:42,298 based on one or more of 4690 02:58:42,769 --> 02:58:43,470 the following factual error New 4691 02:58:43,470 --> 02:58:45,870 information findings that are 4692 02:58:47,407 --> 02:58:48,410 not supported conflict with 4693 02:58:48,410 --> 02:58:48,775 the Land Use Plan Council 4694 02:58:48,775 --> 02:58:52,375 policy or the municipal Code or 4695 02:58:52,980 --> 02:58:53,547 citywide significance. 4696 02:58:53,547 --> 02:58:54,348 A court will uphold 4697 02:58:54,348 --> 02:58:57,948 the Council's decision if it is 4698 02:58:57,951 --> 02:58:58,552 supported by substantial 4699 02:58:58,552 --> 02:58:58,917 evidence in the record. 4700 02:58:58,917 --> 02:58:59,586 Thank you. 4701 02:58:59,586 --> 02:59:01,986 That concludes my comments. 4702 02:59:02,622 --> 02:59:03,456 All right. 4703 02:59:03,456 --> 02:59:03,990 Thank you for that reminder as 4704 02:59:03,990 --> 02:59:06,390 we do these appeals. 4705 02:59:07,627 --> 02:59:12,265 So now I will turn it over to 4706 02:59:12,265 --> 02:59:13,133 the appellate for the project. 4707 02:59:13,133 --> 02:59:15,969 >> Well, you I think you've 4708 02:59:15,969 --> 02:59:16,669 been advised you'll have 15 4709 02:59:16,669 --> 02:59:17,336 minutes if you could introduce 4710 02:59:17,336 --> 02:59:20,336 yourself for the record and 4711 02:59:21,108 --> 02:59:21,775 begin when you're ready. 4712 02:59:21,775 --> 02:59:22,142 >> Good afternoon, Council 4713 02:59:22,142 --> 02:59:22,609 PRESIDENT. 4714 02:59:22,609 --> 02:59:24,609 Council members. 4715 02:59:26,446 --> 02:59:27,800 My name is Anna Ludtke and I am 4716 02:59:27,800 --> 02:59:27,913 from the law firm of Higgs 4717 02:59:27,913 --> 02:59:31,418 Fletcher and Mack I am here 4718 02:59:31,418 --> 02:59:35,589 today on behalf of DR. And MRS. 4719 02:59:35,589 --> 02:59:36,156 Cavanaugh who live at 80 to 75 4720 02:59:36,156 --> 02:59:36,756 La Hoya Drive and are 4721 02:59:36,756 --> 02:59:38,756 downstream neighbors of 4722 02:59:40,527 --> 02:59:41,228 the proposed project. 4723 02:59:41,228 --> 02:59:41,828 The Cavanaugh's timely filed a 4724 02:59:41,828 --> 02:59:43,828 project appeal after 4725 02:59:45,332 --> 02:59:45,932 the planning Commission 4726 02:59:45,932 --> 02:59:46,466 approved the permits on 4727 02:59:46,466 --> 02:59:47,340 DECEMBER 4th, 2025. 4728 02:59:47,340 --> 02:59:49,340 The appeal challenges 4729 02:59:50,403 --> 02:59:51,104 the planning Commission 4730 02:59:51,104 --> 02:59:51,805 findings on drainage adequacy 4731 02:59:51,805 --> 02:59:54,205 An applicant's legal authority 4732 02:59:55,943 --> 02:59:56,609 with respect to the private 4733 02:59:56,609 --> 02:59:59,900 roadway higher first quarter 4734 02:59:59,546 --> 03:00:00,213 Through this appeal process I 4735 03:00:00,213 --> 03:00:00,847 have discussed these issues 4736 03:00:00,847 --> 03:00:02,847 with neighboring property 4737 03:00:05,285 --> 03:00:05,953 owners who also have concerns 4738 03:00:05,953 --> 03:00:06,353 about the project and we are 4739 03:00:06,353 --> 03:00:08,353 here today. 4740 03:00:10,390 --> 03:00:11,910 I am here today to respectfully 4741 03:00:11,910 --> 03:00:11,792 request a short continuance of 4742 03:00:11,792 --> 03:00:15,392 this hearing so that we MAY 4743 03:00:15,963 --> 03:00:16,630 further study and review 4744 03:00:16,630 --> 03:00:19,630 the new and modified project 4745 03:00:20,633 --> 03:00:21,168 conditions and also continue 4746 03:00:21,168 --> 03:00:21,735 our discussions with 4747 03:00:21,735 --> 03:00:22,435 the project applicant. 4748 03:00:22,435 --> 03:00:25,506 Prior to this hearing we were 4749 03:00:25,506 --> 03:00:26,206 in discussions with them on 4750 03:00:26,206 --> 03:00:28,206 some modifications to 4751 03:00:33,800 --> 03:00:33,679 the conditions of approval that 4752 03:00:33,679 --> 03:00:36,790 you asked the applicant. 4753 03:00:38,385 --> 03:00:39,119 >> I have not asked 4754 03:00:39,119 --> 03:00:42,119 the applicant for a continuance 4755 03:00:43,223 --> 03:00:43,956 yet know it's a little 4756 03:00:43,956 --> 03:00:44,658 difficult because I think there 4757 03:00:44,658 --> 03:00:45,326 are some people here that are 4758 03:00:45,326 --> 03:00:47,194 not connected with you know, 4759 03:00:47,194 --> 03:00:47,961 the appellant or the applicant 4760 03:00:47,961 --> 03:00:48,262 who came down here in good 4761 03:00:48,262 --> 03:00:50,262 faith. 4762 03:00:52,232 --> 03:00:53,300 The council is ready. 4763 03:00:53,300 --> 03:00:56,971 What I will give you is kind of 4764 03:00:56,971 --> 03:00:59,371 a half response is 4765 03:01:01,709 --> 03:01:02,243 the applicant also has a 15 4766 03:01:02,243 --> 03:01:04,243 minute presentation. 4767 03:01:05,450 --> 03:01:05,846 I don't know if 15 minutes is 4768 03:01:05,846 --> 03:01:09,617 going to be enough for you to 4769 03:01:09,617 --> 03:01:10,584 confer with them and or staff 4770 03:01:10,584 --> 03:01:14,184 with this very lengthy and very 4771 03:01:14,755 --> 03:01:15,222 small print modification to 4772 03:01:15,222 --> 03:01:17,222 the conditions. 4773 03:01:18,659 --> 03:01:19,527 But why don't you go through 4774 03:01:19,527 --> 03:01:20,160 that and see where you land and 4775 03:01:20,160 --> 03:01:20,560 see if there's any comfort 4776 03:01:20,560 --> 03:01:22,560 level there? 4777 03:01:24,466 --> 03:01:25,990 I know that's a lot to ask of 4778 03:01:25,990 --> 03:01:25,733 you but I think you can 4779 03:01:25,733 --> 03:01:27,733 understand docketing These 4780 03:01:29,203 --> 03:01:29,870 items don't come easy And again 4781 03:01:29,870 --> 03:01:30,538 there's other people that I 4782 03:01:30,538 --> 03:01:33,874 want to extend a courtesy to 4783 03:01:33,874 --> 03:01:34,575 them for showing up here with 4784 03:01:34,575 --> 03:01:34,942 their own issues which MAY be 4785 03:01:34,942 --> 03:01:35,709 different. 4786 03:01:35,709 --> 03:01:39,460 So do you want to run through 4787 03:01:39,460 --> 03:01:42,250 your presentation in any way or 4788 03:01:42,250 --> 03:01:47,500 do you want to use that time to 4789 03:01:47,621 --> 03:01:48,556 confer with the applicant? 4790 03:01:48,556 --> 03:01:49,256 If I elect to take a few 4791 03:01:49,256 --> 03:01:51,656 minutes to confer with 4792 03:01:53,227 --> 03:01:53,894 the applicant if they do not 4793 03:01:53,894 --> 03:01:54,528 agree MAY I come back and 4794 03:01:54,528 --> 03:01:54,794 complete my presentation? 4795 03:01:54,794 --> 03:01:56,794 Yes. 4796 03:01:57,264 --> 03:01:58,232 We extend the courtesy of 4797 03:01:58,232 --> 03:02:01,468 having you go first but yes at 4798 03:02:01,468 --> 03:02:01,869 your request you can certainly 4799 03:02:01,869 --> 03:02:02,169 do a second. 4800 03:02:02,169 --> 03:02:02,470 Okay? 4801 03:02:02,470 --> 03:02:04,470 Okay. 4802 03:02:05,940 --> 03:02:06,306 All right. 4803 03:02:06,306 --> 03:02:07,174 Yeah. 4804 03:02:07,174 --> 03:02:07,742 I'm putting you in a tough spot 4805 03:02:07,742 --> 03:02:10,142 so I understand that. 4806 03:02:11,345 --> 03:02:12,180 I appreciate that. 4807 03:02:12,180 --> 03:02:12,580 I'm trying to navigate running 4808 03:02:12,580 --> 03:02:13,180 the meeting. 4809 03:02:13,180 --> 03:02:16,180 So is any member of 4810 03:02:16,717 --> 03:02:17,384 the applicant willing to I 4811 03:02:17,384 --> 03:02:20,384 shouldn't put words in your 4812 03:02:20,988 --> 03:02:21,656 mouth but to sit down with her 4813 03:02:21,656 --> 03:02:23,190 and work through the changes 4814 03:02:23,190 --> 03:02:23,495 You have a copy of them? 4815 03:02:23,495 --> 03:02:25,495 Yeah. 4816 03:02:32,667 --> 03:02:33,670 Yeah, I do. 4817 03:02:33,670 --> 03:02:35,670 Good. 4818 03:02:38,506 --> 03:02:39,240 After Good afternoon, Counsel. 4819 03:02:39,240 --> 03:02:42,410 This is Sandra Slavin On behalf 4820 03:02:42,410 --> 03:02:43,770 of the applicant we have 4821 03:02:43,770 --> 03:02:43,811 reviewed the conditions that 4822 03:02:43,811 --> 03:02:47,215 staff has provided and we're in 4823 03:02:47,215 --> 03:02:47,914 agreement with them and we 4824 03:02:47,914 --> 03:02:48,583 believe they more than address 4825 03:02:48,583 --> 03:02:51,583 the issues that were raised 4826 03:02:51,718 --> 03:02:52,453 both in the PowerPoint and 4827 03:02:52,453 --> 03:02:52,720 the letters we've received thus 4828 03:02:52,720 --> 03:02:53,387 far. 4829 03:02:53,387 --> 03:02:55,787 Therefore we're asking that 4830 03:02:57,191 --> 03:02:57,492 the hearing continue. 4831 03:02:57,492 --> 03:02:58,159 Okay. 4832 03:02:58,159 --> 03:02:58,526 We weren't asking you that 4833 03:02:58,526 --> 03:02:59,327 question. 4834 03:02:59,327 --> 03:03:02,630 What we were asking whether you 4835 03:03:02,630 --> 03:03:02,764 would be willing to talk with 4836 03:03:02,764 --> 03:03:04,764 the appellants representative 4837 03:03:06,968 --> 03:03:07,735 about the conditions that you 4838 03:03:07,735 --> 03:03:11,935 MAY or MAY not agree with them. 4839 03:03:15,430 --> 03:03:15,743 But I think what I'll I mean I 4840 03:03:15,743 --> 03:03:16,210 don't expect we have a few 4841 03:03:16,210 --> 03:03:16,511 minutes please. 4842 03:03:16,511 --> 03:03:18,511 Yeah. 4843 03:03:18,913 --> 03:03:19,581 So what I'm going to do is I'm 4844 03:03:19,581 --> 03:03:20,381 going to go to the rest of 4845 03:03:20,381 --> 03:03:23,381 the public and take their 4846 03:03:30,725 --> 03:03:34,325 testimony for the public I have 4847 03:03:34,963 --> 03:03:36,963 of Bernard Siegel. 4848 03:03:38,433 --> 03:03:42,330 Bernard Siegel, are you here if 4849 03:03:43,271 --> 03:03:44,370 you'd like to come up to speak 4850 03:03:44,370 --> 03:03:47,370 after Bernard Siegel I have 4851 03:03:49,430 --> 03:03:49,644 Michael Feinstein Would it be 4852 03:03:49,644 --> 03:03:50,245 permissible or have been 4853 03:03:50,245 --> 03:03:52,645 changed to speak first? 4854 03:03:53,715 --> 03:03:54,481 Lynne Shank Sure. 4855 03:03:54,481 --> 03:03:57,885 Lynne Shenk You have time ceded 4856 03:03:57,885 --> 03:03:58,586 to you by Kyle Alderman if you 4857 03:03:58,586 --> 03:04:02,186 can please raise your hand and 4858 03:04:10,231 --> 03:04:11,990 by John Doe many thank you. 4859 03:04:11,990 --> 03:04:14,699 How much time I think MR. 4860 03:04:15,700 --> 03:04:18,670 Domini seated his time to MR. 4861 03:04:19,674 --> 03:04:20,341 Siegel I have here John Dominy 4862 03:04:20,341 --> 03:04:23,341 and Kyle Alderman both ceded 4863 03:04:24,245 --> 03:04:24,746 their time to you. 4864 03:04:24,746 --> 03:04:26,746 Lynch Okay. 4865 03:04:27,849 --> 03:04:31,449 And then you will be having 4866 03:04:32,354 --> 03:04:32,687 three, four, three, 4.5 4867 03:04:32,687 --> 03:04:33,554 minutes. 4868 03:04:33,554 --> 03:04:35,624 It's going to be a minute and a 4869 03:04:35,624 --> 03:04:36,124 half for each person So you'll 4870 03:04:36,124 --> 03:04:36,524 have 4.5 minutes. 4871 03:04:36,524 --> 03:04:38,524 All right. 4872 03:04:41,229 --> 03:04:41,930 Well, thank you, PRESIDENT 4873 03:04:41,930 --> 03:04:42,263 LaCava and members of the City 4874 03:04:42,263 --> 03:04:42,831 Council. 4875 03:04:42,831 --> 03:04:45,831 My name is Lynn Shank. 4876 03:04:46,668 --> 03:04:49,668 I reside at 2446 Valla Zito's 4877 03:04:50,171 --> 03:04:51,390 Court in in La Hoya. 4878 03:04:51,390 --> 03:04:51,706 Let me just start by saying 4879 03:04:51,706 --> 03:04:54,106 that my attorney Robin 4880 03:04:55,777 --> 03:04:56,545 Modafferi who was going to be 4881 03:04:56,545 --> 03:04:59,948 here I just learned a few hours 4882 03:04:59,948 --> 03:05:00,749 ago is quite ill and for that 4883 03:05:00,749 --> 03:05:03,749 reason and others I would 4884 03:05:04,419 --> 03:05:05,220 support the continuance request 4885 03:05:05,220 --> 03:05:09,420 so that we could have her here. 4886 03:05:09,991 --> 03:05:14,620 But if not I will go on with my 4887 03:05:14,620 --> 03:05:14,830 remarks if that's okay. 4888 03:05:14,830 --> 03:05:18,430 Uh, frankly I haven't been in 4889 03:05:18,800 --> 03:05:19,468 this council chamber since 4890 03:05:19,468 --> 03:05:20,350 the late 80s when I was 4891 03:05:20,350 --> 03:05:20,635 appointed to the Port 4892 03:05:20,635 --> 03:05:23,350 Commission by a previous 4893 03:05:24,272 --> 03:05:24,706 council and never thought I'd 4894 03:05:24,706 --> 03:05:26,706 be here again. 4895 03:05:28,610 --> 03:05:31,913 But this project is of such 4896 03:05:31,913 --> 03:05:32,714 magnitude the whole project 4897 03:05:32,714 --> 03:05:33,448 entire four and a half acres 4898 03:05:33,448 --> 03:05:37,480 and the six McMansions that are 4899 03:05:37,185 --> 03:05:37,886 being proposed have such an 4900 03:05:37,886 --> 03:05:38,553 impact on my life that I. 4901 03:05:38,553 --> 03:05:41,553 i had to show up. 4902 03:05:42,491 --> 03:05:46,691 Yes this project is in La Hoya 4903 03:05:46,862 --> 03:05:47,496 but but the incompatible 4904 03:05:47,496 --> 03:05:48,130 construction that impacts 4905 03:05:48,130 --> 03:05:51,130 the lives of neighbors can 4906 03:05:52,400 --> 03:05:52,834 happen in any neighborhood in 4907 03:05:52,834 --> 03:05:54,834 any district. 4908 03:05:56,471 --> 03:05:57,105 My property is immediately 4909 03:05:57,105 --> 03:05:59,505 contiguous to the project 4910 03:06:01,309 --> 03:06:01,610 separated only by a chain link 4911 03:06:01,610 --> 03:06:02,244 fence. 4912 03:06:02,244 --> 03:06:02,711 There's no alley there, no 4913 03:06:02,711 --> 03:06:04,711 roads, nothing. 4914 03:06:06,448 --> 03:06:06,782 It's just one continuous piece 4915 03:06:06,782 --> 03:06:08,782 of land. 4916 03:06:11,587 --> 03:06:12,354 The plan is to build six very 4917 03:06:12,354 --> 03:06:15,354 large homes two of them 4918 03:06:15,957 --> 03:06:18,357 immediately abutting my home 4919 03:06:19,761 --> 03:06:20,529 and they will be three maybe 4920 03:06:20,529 --> 03:06:21,296 four times the size of my house 4921 03:06:21,296 --> 03:06:24,600 within ten feet of my house. 4922 03:06:24,600 --> 03:06:25,300 Now I'm five seven and I don't 4923 03:06:25,300 --> 03:06:28,871 know adding a few feet here 4924 03:06:28,871 --> 03:06:29,538 above my hand That's 4925 03:06:29,538 --> 03:06:32,538 the distance from these very 4926 03:06:34,109 --> 03:06:34,977 large homes to to mine Uh, I'm 4927 03:06:34,977 --> 03:06:35,411 not here to ask you to to kill 4928 03:06:35,411 --> 03:06:37,411 this project. 4929 03:06:39,248 --> 03:06:39,915 I'm here to ask you to either 4930 03:06:39,915 --> 03:06:42,885 grant the continuance or to 4931 03:06:42,885 --> 03:06:43,718 delay approval so that we can 4932 03:06:43,718 --> 03:06:44,553 work in a very real neighborly 4933 03:06:44,553 --> 03:06:47,955 and good faith manner to come 4934 03:06:47,955 --> 03:06:48,724 up with mitigation measures. 4935 03:06:48,724 --> 03:06:51,124 I didn't appear before 4936 03:06:53,329 --> 03:06:54,960 the planning Commission. 4937 03:06:54,960 --> 03:06:57,696 Well, first my my daughter my 4938 03:06:58,333 --> 03:06:59,101 stepdaughter died just a couple 4939 03:06:59,101 --> 03:07:03,301 of weeks before But also we had 4940 03:07:03,372 --> 03:07:04,340 a we thought my attorney and I 4941 03:07:04,340 --> 03:07:08,510 that we had come up with some 4942 03:07:08,510 --> 03:07:09,277 agreements with the owners of 4943 03:07:09,277 --> 03:07:12,214 Lot three and we relied on that 4944 03:07:12,214 --> 03:07:13,182 in good faith. 4945 03:07:13,182 --> 03:07:13,883 But I'm here to tell you say 4946 03:07:13,883 --> 03:07:17,483 that from that moment on they 4947 03:07:18,187 --> 03:07:18,787 have not acted in good faith 4948 03:07:18,787 --> 03:07:20,787 Their applicants lawyers 4949 03:07:21,924 --> 03:07:22,558 applicant of the project have 4950 03:07:22,558 --> 03:07:23,292 have delayed and generally 4951 03:07:23,292 --> 03:07:26,292 ignored entreaties by my lawyer 4952 03:07:27,262 --> 03:07:28,300 to reduce our agreement to 4953 03:07:28,300 --> 03:07:31,300 writing their lawyer as they 4954 03:07:33,350 --> 03:07:33,736 delayed it didn't return calls 4955 03:07:33,736 --> 03:07:37,239 and in fact finally called her 4956 03:07:37,239 --> 03:07:37,973 when the notice of this hearing 4957 03:07:37,973 --> 03:07:38,373 finally came out that's when he 4958 03:07:38,373 --> 03:07:40,373 called her. 4959 03:07:41,711 --> 03:07:42,770 But that's been the tenor of 4960 03:07:42,770 --> 03:07:42,778 this saga. 4961 03:07:42,778 --> 03:07:45,778 It's been cloaked in secrecy, 4962 03:07:46,681 --> 03:07:47,183 lack of transparency and devoid 4963 03:07:47,183 --> 03:07:47,916 of a fair process. 4964 03:07:47,916 --> 03:07:51,516 We've tried to find out who 4965 03:07:51,721 --> 03:07:52,388 the owners are of these six 4966 03:07:52,388 --> 03:07:52,755 slots who's going to be our 4967 03:07:52,755 --> 03:07:54,755 neighbors. 4968 03:07:55,624 --> 03:07:58,624 One must wonder about this 4969 03:07:59,495 --> 03:08:00,196 secrecy Who are the unknown 4970 03:08:00,196 --> 03:08:00,896 Three out-of-state owners that 4971 03:08:00,896 --> 03:08:04,496 the u-t referred to when they 4972 03:08:04,867 --> 03:08:05,701 wrote about this project? 4973 03:08:05,701 --> 03:08:06,401 I have no idea who's going to 4974 03:08:06,401 --> 03:08:06,736 be my neighbors Who who do I 4975 03:08:06,736 --> 03:08:08,736 talk to? 4976 03:08:09,939 --> 03:08:10,473 It took over a year to learn 4977 03:08:10,473 --> 03:08:10,973 about one neighbor. 4978 03:08:10,973 --> 03:08:13,373 We met the Senate. 4979 03:08:14,576 --> 03:08:15,244 Very nice people refused to 4980 03:08:15,244 --> 03:08:18,844 tell us who the other owners 4981 03:08:19,448 --> 03:08:20,216 were a couple of years later 4982 03:08:20,216 --> 03:08:23,252 meaning a few months ago I met 4983 03:08:23,252 --> 03:08:23,953 with the owners of Lot three 4984 03:08:23,953 --> 03:08:24,453 that does abut my house again 4985 03:08:24,453 --> 03:08:26,453 very nice people. 4986 03:08:27,156 --> 03:08:30,756 I thought we had an agreement 4987 03:08:32,610 --> 03:08:32,962 but not nothing a lot for and I 4988 03:08:32,962 --> 03:08:36,562 have passed out this lot lot 4989 03:08:37,100 --> 03:08:40,700 for will immediately but my my 4990 03:08:41,636 --> 03:08:42,205 home and the way it is designed 4991 03:08:42,205 --> 03:08:42,905 the windows and their 4992 03:08:42,905 --> 03:08:45,305 entertainment deck looks right 4993 03:08:46,809 --> 03:08:47,677 into my house, into my living 4994 03:08:47,677 --> 03:08:51,277 room, into my my dining room 4995 03:08:51,781 --> 03:08:52,148 because I have cathedral 4996 03:08:52,148 --> 03:08:52,848 ceilings. 4997 03:08:52,848 --> 03:08:56,318 The house was built in the 60s 4998 03:08:56,318 --> 03:08:57,119 by owners who never thought 4999 03:08:57,119 --> 03:08:57,887 that they would have a house 5000 03:08:57,887 --> 03:09:01,487 right next to them looking in 5001 03:09:01,591 --> 03:09:02,258 on on their life this way built 5002 03:09:02,258 --> 03:09:05,258 on an artificial pad they're 5003 03:09:05,761 --> 03:09:09,961 going to tear down a big hill 5004 03:09:10,767 --> 03:09:11,501 and create a pad filling in a 5005 03:09:11,501 --> 03:09:15,101 valley That should not be done. 5006 03:09:15,872 --> 03:09:16,172 >> That does conclude your time 5007 03:09:16,172 --> 03:09:17,400 . 5008 03:09:17,400 --> 03:09:17,707 I am not sure if anybody else 5009 03:09:17,707 --> 03:09:18,274 wants to cede your time but 5010 03:09:18,274 --> 03:09:20,110 that is the full time. 5011 03:09:20,110 --> 03:09:21,770 I'm sorry. 5012 03:09:21,770 --> 03:09:24,677 Well it's it's a mystery why 5013 03:09:25,480 --> 03:09:25,748 the local advisory board was 5014 03:09:25,748 --> 03:09:26,115 ignored when voted against is 5015 03:09:26,115 --> 03:09:26,816 unanimous. 5016 03:09:26,816 --> 03:09:30,486 Thank you for that And I thank 5017 03:09:30,486 --> 03:09:31,187 you for your time and I hope 5018 03:09:31,187 --> 03:09:32,755 that you will read my letter. 5019 03:09:32,755 --> 03:09:36,955 It's just I have to ask you. 5020 03:09:37,627 --> 03:09:38,528 >> Thank you, Bernard Siegel 5021 03:09:38,528 --> 03:09:41,528 Bernard Siegel After that is 5022 03:09:43,499 --> 03:09:47,990 Philip Merton to the left And 5023 03:09:48,237 --> 03:09:48,538 MR. Burke, are you okay with 5024 03:09:48,538 --> 03:09:49,238 that? 5025 03:09:49,238 --> 03:09:49,939 MR. Burton Because we do do a 5026 03:09:49,939 --> 03:09:50,473 first come first serve unless 5027 03:09:50,473 --> 03:09:52,873 you're okay with it. 5028 03:09:54,844 --> 03:09:55,378 Please come up. 5029 03:09:55,378 --> 03:09:57,378 Good afternoon. 5030 03:10:00,316 --> 03:10:01,170 Council members. 5031 03:10:01,170 --> 03:10:03,819 My name is Philip Merton. 5032 03:10:03,819 --> 03:10:04,521 I reside at 1236 New Orleans 5033 03:10:04,521 --> 03:10:08,121 Vista Way in the community of 5034 03:10:08,391 --> 03:10:09,125 La Hoya. 5035 03:10:09,125 --> 03:10:09,426 I'm here today representing MR. 5036 03:10:09,426 --> 03:10:11,426 Lynch. 5037 03:10:13,329 --> 03:10:17,330 I want my comments are also on 5038 03:10:17,330 --> 03:10:17,634 my own behalf as a 15 year 5039 03:10:17,634 --> 03:10:18,335 member of the Community 5040 03:10:18,335 --> 03:10:21,335 Planning Association and as an 5041 03:10:22,372 --> 03:10:25,372 elected trustee for 12 of those 5042 03:10:26,176 --> 03:10:26,910 years in the late 1960s and 5043 03:10:26,910 --> 03:10:30,510 early 1970s the residents of La 5044 03:10:30,547 --> 03:10:31,114 Hoya Shores concluded that 5045 03:10:31,114 --> 03:10:31,715 the character of their 5046 03:10:31,715 --> 03:10:34,115 community was unique and 5047 03:10:35,652 --> 03:10:36,386 deserved protection. 5048 03:10:36,386 --> 03:10:37,187 In 1974 the San Diego City 5049 03:10:37,187 --> 03:10:40,187 Council adopted De La Hoya 5050 03:10:41,624 --> 03:10:42,358 Shores precise Plan de La Hoya 5051 03:10:42,358 --> 03:10:45,428 Shores Design Manual and the La 5052 03:10:45,428 --> 03:10:46,129 Hoya Shore's Plan District 5053 03:10:46,129 --> 03:10:46,796 Ordinance The La Hoya Surance 5054 03:10:46,796 --> 03:10:49,196 Plan District ordinance has 5055 03:10:49,765 --> 03:10:50,467 been the controlling 5056 03:10:50,467 --> 03:10:51,400 regulations in La Hoya Shores 5057 03:10:51,400 --> 03:10:55,000 for more than 50 years and are 5058 03:10:55,205 --> 03:10:55,972 contained in Chapter 15 Article 5059 03:10:55,972 --> 03:10:59,572 one of the San Diego Municipal 5060 03:11:00,242 --> 03:11:00,977 Code The Design Principles 5061 03:11:00,977 --> 03:11:03,977 section of the Shores Ordinance 5062 03:11:05,348 --> 03:11:06,490 states original quality and 5063 03:11:06,490 --> 03:11:08,449 diversity in architecture are 5064 03:11:09,286 --> 03:11:09,953 encouraged The same unity and 5065 03:11:09,953 --> 03:11:10,319 variety shall be a guiding 5066 03:11:10,319 --> 03:11:12,319 principle. 5067 03:11:13,657 --> 03:11:14,357 Unity without variety means 5068 03:11:14,357 --> 03:11:14,825 simple monotony but variety by 5069 03:11:14,825 --> 03:11:16,825 itself is chaos. 5070 03:11:19,396 --> 03:11:19,930 It says that no structure will 5071 03:11:19,930 --> 03:11:22,330 be approved which is 5072 03:11:23,667 --> 03:11:24,367 substantially like any other 5073 03:11:24,367 --> 03:11:24,701 structure located on adjacent 5074 03:11:24,701 --> 03:11:26,701 parcel. 5075 03:11:29,272 --> 03:11:30,700 It also says conversely no 5076 03:11:30,700 --> 03:11:30,707 structure will be approved that 5077 03:11:30,707 --> 03:11:33,677 is so different in quality For 5078 03:11:33,677 --> 03:11:34,378 that concluding statement that 5079 03:11:34,378 --> 03:11:35,120 does include But if you have 5080 03:11:35,120 --> 03:11:35,679 written statements you can 5081 03:11:35,679 --> 03:11:36,246 definitely hand those to my 5082 03:11:36,246 --> 03:11:38,315 staff and then we can 5083 03:11:38,315 --> 03:11:38,949 distribute those to the council 5084 03:11:38,949 --> 03:11:39,383 so that they can continue 5085 03:11:39,383 --> 03:11:40,160 reading them. 5086 03:11:40,160 --> 03:11:43,530 Do you have a handout for 5087 03:11:43,530 --> 03:11:46,530 council member group Mo Samak 5088 03:11:51,995 --> 03:11:52,462 Summary. 5089 03:11:52,462 --> 03:11:54,462 Good afternoon. 5090 03:11:57,367 --> 03:11:58,680 Council PRESIDENT McCarver 5091 03:11:58,680 --> 03:12:01,668 Council Members My name is Mo 5092 03:12:02,673 --> 03:12:03,373 Samik I am with the Office of 5093 03:12:03,373 --> 03:12:06,576 San Diego Land Lawyers and we 5094 03:12:06,576 --> 03:12:07,277 represent MISS Lynn Schenck who 5095 03:12:07,277 --> 03:12:07,978 actually as you mentioned owns 5096 03:12:07,978 --> 03:12:10,378 property directly adjacent to 5097 03:12:11,281 --> 03:12:11,949 this particular project. 5098 03:12:11,949 --> 03:12:14,949 In addition to the concerns 5099 03:12:16,186 --> 03:12:17,200 that was raised by others there 5100 03:12:17,200 --> 03:12:17,854 are a couple of technical items 5101 03:12:17,854 --> 03:12:20,524 that I would like to bring it 5102 03:12:20,524 --> 03:12:20,991 to Council's attention before 5103 03:12:20,991 --> 03:12:22,991 their decision. 5104 03:12:24,962 --> 03:12:25,696 First is about the grading. 5105 03:12:25,696 --> 03:12:28,696 This project proposes a grading 5106 03:12:29,967 --> 03:12:30,600 of six different lots with no 5107 03:12:30,600 --> 03:12:33,000 particular order in which 5108 03:12:35,305 --> 03:12:35,639 the lots are going to be 5109 03:12:35,639 --> 03:12:36,240 graded. 5110 03:12:36,240 --> 03:12:36,639 The amount of grading is 5111 03:12:36,639 --> 03:12:38,639 significant. 5112 03:12:40,177 --> 03:12:43,681 It varies from for each lot. 5113 03:12:43,681 --> 03:12:47,281 It varies from 560yd to about 5114 03:12:47,918 --> 03:12:50,318 40 800yd of excavation and 5115 03:12:51,988 --> 03:12:52,289 460yd to about 20 500yd of 5116 03:12:52,289 --> 03:12:53,570 fill. 5117 03:12:53,570 --> 03:12:56,657 And if there are no conditions 5118 03:12:56,760 --> 03:12:57,428 to proper address the amount of 5119 03:12:57,428 --> 03:13:00,428 grading, it is possible that 5120 03:13:01,699 --> 03:13:02,433 these type of activities 5121 03:13:02,433 --> 03:13:03,267 continues on for a significant 5122 03:13:03,267 --> 03:13:06,867 period of time which you can 5123 03:13:07,370 --> 03:13:07,738 imagine if your next door 5124 03:13:07,738 --> 03:13:10,738 neighbor you would be impacted 5125 03:13:11,709 --> 03:13:12,376 by trucking by dust and noise 5126 03:13:12,376 --> 03:13:12,676 for an indefinite period of 5127 03:13:12,676 --> 03:13:14,676 time. 5128 03:13:16,480 --> 03:13:20,800 So we believe there should be 5129 03:13:20,818 --> 03:13:21,485 some requirements for adjusting 5130 03:13:21,485 --> 03:13:22,219 the grading With respect to 5131 03:13:22,219 --> 03:13:24,619 drainage which counsel actually 5132 03:13:25,956 --> 03:13:26,757 mentioned. 5133 03:13:26,757 --> 03:13:27,525 I want to briefly mention that 5134 03:13:27,525 --> 03:13:30,525 we understand that they are 5135 03:13:31,128 --> 03:13:31,896 discharging something and I'm 5136 03:13:31,896 --> 03:13:34,896 sorry that does conclude your 5137 03:13:35,198 --> 03:13:35,866 time. 5138 03:13:35,866 --> 03:13:36,533 If you have any written 5139 03:13:36,533 --> 03:13:37,670 statements we can definitely 5140 03:13:37,670 --> 03:13:37,468 distribute those to 5141 03:13:37,468 --> 03:13:39,468 the council. 5142 03:13:40,304 --> 03:13:40,938 I just wanted to mention that 5143 03:13:40,938 --> 03:13:41,572 the amount of discharge is 5144 03:13:41,572 --> 03:13:43,572 significantly higher with 5145 03:13:44,241 --> 03:13:45,420 the curb capacity. 5146 03:13:45,420 --> 03:13:45,409 Thank you for that concluding 5147 03:13:45,409 --> 03:13:46,844 statement. 5148 03:13:46,844 --> 03:13:48,844 Michael Feinstein. 5149 03:13:52,383 --> 03:13:53,184 Michael Feinstein And then our 5150 03:13:53,184 --> 03:13:56,184 last public comment is Bernard 5151 03:13:56,653 --> 03:13:59,653 Siegel That's here in council 5152 03:14:15,172 --> 03:14:15,873 chambers. 5153 03:14:15,873 --> 03:14:16,239 >> Good afternoon, MR. 5154 03:14:16,239 --> 03:14:18,239 PRESIDENT. 5155 03:14:19,744 --> 03:14:22,744 And for the same for 5156 03:14:24,548 --> 03:14:25,416 the members of the Council. 5157 03:14:25,416 --> 03:14:28,416 I reside at 2406 via Zito's 5158 03:14:29,187 --> 03:14:29,854 court which is property on 5159 03:14:29,854 --> 03:14:30,254 the street adjacent to this 5160 03:14:30,254 --> 03:14:32,254 development. 5161 03:14:34,425 --> 03:14:35,126 Early on I spoke with MR. 5162 03:14:35,126 --> 03:14:35,593 Faust, the architect involved 5163 03:14:35,593 --> 03:14:37,593 in this project. 5164 03:14:38,996 --> 03:14:42,596 I asked him to identify who 5165 03:14:43,634 --> 03:14:44,335 the owners actually would be in 5166 03:14:44,335 --> 03:14:45,350 the homes that are being built 5167 03:14:45,350 --> 03:14:45,436 and he refused to give me that 5168 03:14:45,436 --> 03:14:47,436 information. 5169 03:14:48,439 --> 03:14:49,307 I asked MR. Fosh if he would 5170 03:14:49,307 --> 03:14:52,610 give me a copy of the agreement 5171 03:14:52,610 --> 03:14:53,344 between him and the owners that 5172 03:14:53,344 --> 03:14:56,944 would show his authority to act 5173 03:14:57,648 --> 03:14:58,316 on behalf of the owners and he 5174 03:14:58,316 --> 03:14:58,650 would not furnish that to me 5175 03:14:58,650 --> 03:14:59,450 either. 5176 03:14:59,450 --> 03:15:02,200 He referred me to a man by 5177 03:15:02,200 --> 03:15:02,653 the name of Scott Sennett who 5178 03:15:02,653 --> 03:15:03,187 happens to be the managing 5179 03:15:03,187 --> 03:15:05,587 partner of a limited 5180 03:15:07,458 --> 03:15:07,792 partnership called the Cielo Ma 5181 03:15:07,792 --> 03:15:08,259 Project. 5182 03:15:08,259 --> 03:15:10,659 I met with him. 5183 03:15:11,629 --> 03:15:12,363 Now this is the limited 5184 03:15:12,363 --> 03:15:15,363 partnership that was reputed to 5185 03:15:16,267 --> 03:15:16,968 be from MR. Faucheux, the owner 5186 03:15:16,968 --> 03:15:17,535 of the actual parcel that is 5187 03:15:17,535 --> 03:15:19,935 being developed and is 5188 03:15:21,440 --> 03:15:21,873 the subject of seeking these 5189 03:15:21,873 --> 03:15:22,607 permits. 5190 03:15:22,607 --> 03:15:25,607 MR. Sennett refused to disclose 5191 03:15:26,945 --> 03:15:27,612 to me give me a copy of 5192 03:15:27,612 --> 03:15:30,120 the escrow instructions that 5193 03:15:31,249 --> 03:15:31,916 showed who the limited who were 5194 03:15:31,916 --> 03:15:32,684 the owners of these things. 5195 03:15:32,684 --> 03:15:35,820 So to this day the applicant so 5196 03:15:35,820 --> 03:15:36,387 called applicant has refused to 5197 03:15:36,387 --> 03:15:39,387 tell us who the actual 5198 03:15:40,358 --> 03:15:40,959 individual owners of these six 5199 03:15:40,959 --> 03:15:41,926 homes are going to be. 5200 03:15:41,926 --> 03:15:45,230 Now we have to have that 5201 03:15:45,230 --> 03:15:48,830 information And now MR. Fosh is 5202 03:15:49,868 --> 03:15:50,368 presumably seeking a permit on 5203 03:15:50,368 --> 03:15:51,350 behalf of people. 5204 03:15:51,350 --> 03:15:51,401 >> That does conclude your 5205 03:15:51,401 --> 03:15:53,401 time, sir. 5206 03:15:53,905 --> 03:15:54,371 I have one but six parties 5207 03:15:54,371 --> 03:15:56,371 exceeding to me. 5208 03:15:58,343 --> 03:15:58,843 I have nobody who ceded time to 5209 03:15:58,843 --> 03:15:59,377 you in my records. 5210 03:15:59,377 --> 03:16:01,777 Sorry I'm up here. 5211 03:16:02,981 --> 03:16:03,481 There's nobody that seated time 5212 03:16:03,481 --> 03:16:04,281 in your records. 5213 03:16:04,281 --> 03:16:04,983 >> If they can raise their hand 5214 03:16:04,983 --> 03:16:05,283 we can get a speaker slip from 5215 03:16:05,283 --> 03:16:07,283 them. 5216 03:16:08,953 --> 03:16:09,654 I have MR. Doheny I think is 5217 03:16:09,654 --> 03:16:10,210 here to share the time to me. 5218 03:16:10,210 --> 03:16:12,210 >> MR.. 5219 03:16:12,257 --> 03:16:13,240 Don't be seated. 5220 03:16:13,240 --> 03:16:13,491 His time and his speaker slip 5221 03:16:13,491 --> 03:16:15,491 to Lynn Schenck. 5222 03:16:17,562 --> 03:16:17,896 He ceded his time to Lynn 5223 03:16:17,896 --> 03:16:18,463 Schenck. 5224 03:16:18,463 --> 03:16:18,863 >> I can't hear you. 5225 03:16:18,863 --> 03:16:20,863 I'm sorry. 5226 03:16:22,233 --> 03:16:22,567 He ceded his time to Lynn 5227 03:16:22,567 --> 03:16:23,268 Schenck. 5228 03:16:23,268 --> 03:16:25,804 Myself will come down and talk 5229 03:16:25,804 --> 03:16:26,338 to you and show you 5230 03:16:26,338 --> 03:16:27,500 the speaker's slip. 5231 03:16:27,500 --> 03:16:30,605 I actually need more time to 5232 03:16:30,841 --> 03:16:31,442 show you that MR. Bush does not 5233 03:16:31,442 --> 03:16:32,176 have the authority legal 5234 03:16:32,176 --> 03:16:35,776 authority to speak on behalf of 5235 03:16:36,114 --> 03:16:36,648 this applicant. 5236 03:16:36,648 --> 03:16:37,315 >> Understood, sir. 5237 03:16:37,315 --> 03:16:38,216 You If there's anybody else 5238 03:16:38,216 --> 03:16:41,753 that can see due time then they 5239 03:16:41,753 --> 03:16:42,454 can give you time. 5240 03:16:42,454 --> 03:16:43,388 But there's no other speakers 5241 03:16:43,388 --> 03:16:45,357 up here and I have to be before 5242 03:16:45,357 --> 03:16:46,910 I can. 5243 03:16:46,910 --> 03:16:46,591 >> Must expressed the hope that 5244 03:16:46,591 --> 03:16:48,591 if the applicant. 5245 03:16:50,695 --> 03:16:51,530 I'm sorry, sir. 5246 03:16:51,530 --> 03:16:52,300 I do have to move on to 5247 03:16:52,300 --> 03:16:54,300 the next speakers. 5248 03:16:57,870 --> 03:16:58,436 Do we go to um I'm going to be 5249 03:16:58,436 --> 03:17:00,836 looking for an update. 5250 03:17:02,507 --> 03:17:03,241 We're going to go to the folks 5251 03:17:03,241 --> 03:17:05,641 participating remotely get take 5252 03:17:05,944 --> 03:17:06,745 their comments and then we'll 5253 03:17:06,745 --> 03:17:09,745 circle back with the two 5254 03:17:11,350 --> 03:17:11,983 parties going to those 5255 03:17:11,983 --> 03:17:13,983 participating remotely I'm 5256 03:17:15,387 --> 03:17:15,954 sorry the five minute timer We 5257 03:17:15,954 --> 03:17:16,321 have three speakers in 5258 03:17:16,321 --> 03:17:18,321 the queue. 5259 03:17:19,390 --> 03:17:22,990 Tony if you can please unmute. 5260 03:17:24,196 --> 03:17:24,763 >> Hello? 5261 03:17:24,763 --> 03:17:25,297 Can you hear me? 5262 03:17:25,297 --> 03:17:26,980 Yes, Please proceed. 5263 03:17:26,980 --> 03:17:29,234 Hey I just wanted to say that 5264 03:17:29,234 --> 03:17:29,634 I'm in support of the residents 5265 03:17:29,634 --> 03:17:30,502 of La Hoya. 5266 03:17:30,502 --> 03:17:33,438 I'm not acquiescing and I hope 5267 03:17:33,438 --> 03:17:34,106 that the council won't 5268 03:17:34,106 --> 03:17:34,573 acquiesce to the demands of 5269 03:17:34,573 --> 03:17:36,573 the developers. 5270 03:17:37,910 --> 03:17:38,610 I know from my own personal 5271 03:17:38,610 --> 03:17:41,610 experience how much our living 5272 03:17:42,947 --> 03:17:43,681 conditions are affected by 5273 03:17:43,681 --> 03:17:44,283 incessant development and a lot 5274 03:17:44,283 --> 03:17:46,683 of times the development 5275 03:17:48,420 --> 03:17:49,870 doesn't necessarily support 5276 03:17:49,870 --> 03:17:52,870 the community and it doesn't 5277 03:17:52,958 --> 03:17:53,525 give the local residents 5278 03:17:53,525 --> 03:17:53,925 anything particularly 5279 03:17:53,925 --> 03:17:54,660 beneficial. 5280 03:17:54,660 --> 03:17:58,630 And in this case it sounds like 5281 03:17:58,630 --> 03:17:59,198 that's what a lot of the local 5282 03:17:59,198 --> 03:18:01,198 residents are saying. 5283 03:18:02,434 --> 03:18:03,100 So I hope that this town can be 5284 03:18:03,100 --> 03:18:03,669 one that continues to 5285 03:18:03,669 --> 03:18:04,370 accommodate the people that 5286 03:18:04,370 --> 03:18:06,872 live here, not the people that 5287 03:18:06,872 --> 03:18:07,640 want to build here. 5288 03:18:07,640 --> 03:18:10,640 And it's very quickly becoming 5289 03:18:11,677 --> 03:18:15,277 a town that is building homes 5290 03:18:16,881 --> 03:18:17,281 for private equity to sit and 5291 03:18:17,281 --> 03:18:17,916 hang on to. 5292 03:18:17,916 --> 03:18:20,953 I know that was the case. 5293 03:18:20,953 --> 03:18:24,156 It was reported back in 2024 in 5294 03:18:24,156 --> 03:18:25,157 the Union-Tribune that almost 5295 03:18:25,157 --> 03:18:28,157 19% 20% of the homes sold in 5296 03:18:29,128 --> 03:18:29,461 Georgia were for private 5297 03:18:29,461 --> 03:18:30,262 equity. 5298 03:18:30,262 --> 03:18:33,799 So I just have some concerns 5299 03:18:33,799 --> 03:18:34,433 about especially what the last 5300 03:18:34,433 --> 03:18:36,833 gentleman who spoke raised 5301 03:18:38,804 --> 03:18:39,438 about not knowing who 5302 03:18:39,438 --> 03:18:41,838 the purchasers of these 5303 03:18:43,509 --> 03:18:44,343 developed lots would be. 5304 03:18:44,343 --> 03:18:47,343 Yeah, that's a that's very 5305 03:18:48,470 --> 03:18:48,814 concerning. 5306 03:18:48,814 --> 03:18:49,114 >> So anyway, thanks for your 5307 03:18:49,114 --> 03:18:49,480 time. 5308 03:18:49,480 --> 03:18:49,949 Thank you. 5309 03:18:49,949 --> 03:18:51,949 Next is Hector. 5310 03:18:52,885 --> 03:18:53,652 If you can please unmute. 5311 03:18:53,652 --> 03:18:54,520 >> After that our final speaker 5312 03:18:54,520 --> 03:18:56,520 is 8700. 5313 03:18:58,657 --> 03:18:59,580 Thanks for taking my call. 5314 03:18:59,580 --> 03:19:01,580 Hey Mike. 5315 03:19:02,995 --> 03:19:03,361 She's like a great person in 5316 03:19:03,361 --> 03:19:05,361 San Diego. 5317 03:19:07,266 --> 03:19:08,330 Give her a break And she says 5318 03:19:08,330 --> 03:19:11,633 this is the fight for even 5319 03:19:13,605 --> 03:19:14,473 the rich guys in La Hoya. 5320 03:19:14,473 --> 03:19:17,776 Yeah, if there's say guys in 5321 03:19:17,776 --> 03:19:18,544 Bay Park they just built 5322 03:19:18,544 --> 03:19:22,744 the four story u next to my 5323 03:19:23,249 --> 03:19:24,250 neighbor So my driveway looking 5324 03:19:24,250 --> 03:19:27,353 into you know it's terrible he 5325 03:19:27,353 --> 03:19:27,620 couldn't do nothing about it 5326 03:19:27,620 --> 03:19:28,354 man. 5327 03:19:28,354 --> 03:19:31,954 He didn't have the millions of 5328 03:19:33,359 --> 03:19:34,125 lawyers though So I know the La 5329 03:19:34,125 --> 03:19:37,630 La Hoya game is you know, it's 5330 03:19:37,630 --> 03:19:37,829 a terrible session. 5331 03:19:37,829 --> 03:19:38,798 Do those guys do this? 5332 03:19:38,798 --> 03:19:42,998 Do that but just take it could 5333 03:19:43,350 --> 03:19:43,903 be like a lot of Black Lives 5334 03:19:43,903 --> 03:19:47,503 Matter and then they turn it 5335 03:19:47,540 --> 03:19:48,374 into a duty party yourself. 5336 03:19:48,374 --> 03:19:50,743 Who knows how to apply it But 5337 03:19:50,743 --> 03:19:51,310 it's going to be a battle. 5338 03:19:51,310 --> 03:19:54,310 I say take the law. 5339 03:19:54,980 --> 03:19:55,280 You guys give them a grain of 5340 03:19:55,280 --> 03:19:55,814 salt. 5341 03:19:55,814 --> 03:19:56,749 Let them have them. 5342 03:19:56,749 --> 03:20:00,349 Let them have their way because 5343 03:20:01,253 --> 03:20:01,954 they all got buddies and 5344 03:20:01,954 --> 03:20:02,721 they're older defend them And 5345 03:20:02,721 --> 03:20:05,391 it's more and it's going to be 5346 03:20:05,391 --> 03:20:06,125 a loss Who you know what's 5347 03:20:06,125 --> 03:20:09,125 going to happen there Obviously 5348 03:20:09,128 --> 03:20:09,862 the lawyers are definitely 5349 03:20:09,862 --> 03:20:12,862 conceal and reveal the truth 5350 03:20:14,133 --> 03:20:14,734 That's what they get paid for. 5351 03:20:14,734 --> 03:20:15,568 They're going to lie. 5352 03:20:15,568 --> 03:20:19,168 That's the whole game that Oh 5353 03:20:22,441 --> 03:20:22,841 good luck with your life. 5354 03:20:22,841 --> 03:20:23,543 Thank you. 5355 03:20:23,543 --> 03:20:25,210 That concludes your comments. 5356 03:20:25,210 --> 03:20:25,578 Oh yeah. 5357 03:20:25,578 --> 03:20:27,578 Thank you. 5358 03:20:32,852 --> 03:20:33,219 Next is 8700 8700 if you 5359 03:20:33,219 --> 03:20:35,219 complete. 5360 03:20:38,591 --> 03:20:39,191 >> There you go. 5361 03:20:39,191 --> 03:20:39,559 Sorry about that. 5362 03:20:39,559 --> 03:20:39,959 Thank you. 5363 03:20:39,959 --> 03:20:40,359 City clerk. 5364 03:20:40,359 --> 03:20:40,793 City clerk. 5365 03:20:40,793 --> 03:20:42,793 I apologize. 5366 03:20:42,961 --> 03:20:43,929 Is that 1 or 2 minutes? 5367 03:20:43,929 --> 03:20:47,700 It's a minute and a half a 5368 03:20:47,700 --> 03:20:48,367 minute and a half. 5369 03:20:48,367 --> 03:20:51,367 Thank you so much, Joy. 5370 03:20:51,671 --> 03:20:52,372 As soon you are to First of 5371 03:20:52,372 --> 03:20:53,390 all, I've just come out of 5372 03:20:53,390 --> 03:20:56,639 the gate saying this that I 5373 03:20:56,641 --> 03:20:57,343 agree with the staff and 5374 03:20:57,343 --> 03:20:57,810 they're recommending that you 5375 03:20:57,810 --> 03:20:59,810 deny the appeal. 5376 03:21:01,114 --> 03:21:01,914 Now a couple of things I want 5377 03:21:01,914 --> 03:21:05,485 to say as I live in District 5378 03:21:05,485 --> 03:21:06,185 three but I try to get a stay 5379 03:21:06,185 --> 03:21:09,185 abreast of what's happening in 5380 03:21:10,456 --> 03:21:11,391 our entire San Diego area as 5381 03:21:11,391 --> 03:21:15,591 best I can by this kind of 5382 03:21:15,661 --> 03:21:15,929 process Really, really upsets 5383 03:21:15,929 --> 03:21:16,562 me. 5384 03:21:16,562 --> 03:21:20,162 And the reason it does is 5385 03:21:20,600 --> 03:21:21,401 because, you know, appeals are 5386 03:21:21,401 --> 03:21:21,901 good and they're not too good 5387 03:21:21,901 --> 03:21:24,301 at the same time. 5388 03:21:25,371 --> 03:21:26,239 But what causes these appeals 5389 03:21:26,239 --> 03:21:29,839 is they begin to listen to 5390 03:21:30,110 --> 03:21:30,977 the parties involved. 5391 03:21:30,977 --> 03:21:31,678 I feel very sad and very upset 5392 03:21:31,678 --> 03:21:35,278 at the same time because they 5393 03:21:35,448 --> 03:21:36,316 see this this this push pull 5394 03:21:36,316 --> 03:21:39,916 this fight in a negative way 5395 03:21:39,986 --> 03:21:40,553 between the parties who are 5396 03:21:40,553 --> 03:21:42,553 involved, whether it's 5397 03:21:45,325 --> 03:21:45,959 neighbors or you know, making 5398 03:21:45,959 --> 03:21:46,593 the appeal the developers, 5399 03:21:46,593 --> 03:21:49,593 whatever and you choose of 5400 03:21:50,290 --> 03:21:50,530 the word somebody use the word 5401 03:21:50,530 --> 03:21:51,197 today secrecy and 5402 03:21:51,197 --> 03:21:53,597 nontransparent And there are 5403 03:21:54,901 --> 03:21:57,670 some other very negative word 5404 03:21:57,670 --> 03:21:58,337 to use And yet she was I 5405 03:21:58,337 --> 03:21:59,305 believe which one she was 5406 03:21:59,305 --> 03:22:02,675 asking that if we could have a 5407 03:22:02,675 --> 03:22:03,309 neighbor who had neighborly 5408 03:22:03,309 --> 03:22:05,309 good faith collaboration. 5409 03:22:07,480 --> 03:22:08,347 Well, you know where was that 5410 03:22:08,347 --> 03:22:11,851 we're has that been in in a lot 5411 03:22:11,851 --> 03:22:12,185 of cases that just doesn't 5412 03:22:12,185 --> 03:22:12,819 happen. 5413 03:22:12,819 --> 03:22:15,819 So that's what we want. 5414 03:22:17,157 --> 03:22:17,824 We want all these parties to 5415 03:22:17,824 --> 03:22:20,224 sit together and collaborate 5416 03:22:22,462 --> 03:22:22,996 and share and come to the good. 5417 03:22:22,996 --> 03:22:24,996 My apologies. 5418 03:22:25,131 --> 03:22:25,565 And that does conclude the five 5419 03:22:25,565 --> 03:22:26,333 minute timer. 5420 03:22:26,333 --> 03:22:26,900 >> So that does include public 5421 03:22:26,900 --> 03:22:27,267 comment on this item. 5422 03:22:27,267 --> 03:22:29,267 All right. 5423 03:22:29,703 --> 03:22:30,470 Thank you, City Clerk So at 5424 03:22:30,470 --> 03:22:30,804 least we got through that part 5425 03:22:30,804 --> 03:22:31,738 of that. 5426 03:22:31,738 --> 03:22:34,841 So where do we stand with 5427 03:22:34,841 --> 03:22:35,609 the appellant and the applicant 5428 03:22:35,609 --> 03:22:38,609 Chandler Slavin On behalf of 5429 03:22:39,679 --> 03:22:40,347 the applicant we respectfully 5430 03:22:40,347 --> 03:22:41,810 request that the hearing be 5431 03:22:41,810 --> 03:22:44,810 continued today and not be 5432 03:22:44,951 --> 03:22:45,719 extended. 5433 03:22:45,719 --> 03:22:48,719 Did the Appellant We've reached 5434 03:22:49,389 --> 03:22:50,122 out multiple times and this is 5435 03:22:50,122 --> 03:22:50,824 the first time we've heard from 5436 03:22:50,824 --> 03:22:53,893 them in six months They do not 5437 03:22:53,893 --> 03:22:54,527 have their civil engineer nor 5438 03:22:54,527 --> 03:22:57,527 their clients here We are 5439 03:22:58,665 --> 03:22:59,533 accepting of the conditions 5440 03:22:59,533 --> 03:23:00,200 that staff took a lot of time 5441 03:23:00,200 --> 03:23:03,437 and effort to write and we 5442 03:23:03,437 --> 03:23:04,137 would like our hearing to 5443 03:23:04,137 --> 03:23:04,604 continue and the appeal to be 5444 03:23:04,604 --> 03:23:06,604 withdrawn today. 5445 03:23:07,274 --> 03:23:07,841 Thank you. 5446 03:23:07,841 --> 03:23:09,841 >> All right. 5447 03:23:12,646 --> 03:23:15,460 The appellant realizing that 5448 03:23:17,184 --> 03:23:17,484 puts you in an awkward position 5449 03:23:17,484 --> 03:23:18,518 . 5450 03:23:18,518 --> 03:23:22,118 >> I'm sorry could you come to 5451 03:23:22,422 --> 03:23:22,789 the mic just so everybody else 5452 03:23:22,789 --> 03:23:23,256 can hear? 5453 03:23:23,256 --> 03:23:25,256 Yes, of course. 5454 03:23:29,496 --> 03:23:30,363 Thank you. 5455 03:23:30,363 --> 03:23:33,963 We are not going to withdraw 5456 03:23:34,601 --> 03:23:35,302 our appeal today if 5457 03:23:35,302 --> 03:23:38,302 the applicant or the applicant 5458 03:23:39,106 --> 03:23:39,806 has not agreed to continue 5459 03:23:39,806 --> 03:23:40,841 the hearing to a future date. 5460 03:23:40,841 --> 03:23:44,511 I put that to the council but I 5461 03:23:44,511 --> 03:23:45,178 understand Council PRESIDENT 5462 03:23:45,178 --> 03:23:45,779 LaCava your hesitancy to do 5463 03:23:45,779 --> 03:23:48,779 that So we are prepared. 5464 03:23:49,482 --> 03:23:50,490 I am prepared to continue with 5465 03:23:50,490 --> 03:23:53,490 the hearing if that is 5466 03:23:53,853 --> 03:23:54,520 the direction given to me. 5467 03:23:54,520 --> 03:23:56,920 >> I believe my clients 5468 03:23:59,920 --> 03:23:59,960 the Cavanaugh's are online so 5469 03:23:59,960 --> 03:24:03,463 they are also here with us 5470 03:24:03,463 --> 03:24:04,298 today. 5471 03:24:04,298 --> 03:24:08,368 All right so we'll give you so 5472 03:24:08,368 --> 03:24:08,902 that they reach out to you 5473 03:24:08,902 --> 03:24:09,470 during this hearing? 5474 03:24:09,470 --> 03:24:11,870 >> No, not yet, no. 5475 03:24:13,607 --> 03:24:14,700 We spoke with Bill Prior to 5476 03:24:14,700 --> 03:24:14,308 the hearing. 5477 03:24:14,308 --> 03:24:15,420 Okay. 5478 03:24:15,420 --> 03:24:15,742 So for the second time that was 5479 03:24:15,742 --> 03:24:17,177 the question I was asking is 5480 03:24:17,177 --> 03:24:17,844 whether the two sides could sit 5481 03:24:17,844 --> 03:24:18,479 down not thinking there was 5482 03:24:18,479 --> 03:24:20,879 anything fanciful or rose 5483 03:24:22,490 --> 03:24:22,417 colored glasses that would be 5484 03:24:22,417 --> 03:24:23,117 resolved. 5485 03:24:23,117 --> 03:24:26,717 But I remember the good words 5486 03:24:27,286 --> 03:24:27,687 of fresco, right. 5487 03:24:27,687 --> 03:24:29,687 Who else? 5488 03:24:31,558 --> 03:24:32,292 Eric Netherland that said Just 5489 03:24:32,292 --> 03:24:33,270 talk if there's an opportunity 5490 03:24:33,270 --> 03:24:36,627 to talk But people make their 5491 03:24:36,897 --> 03:24:37,698 choices so I will invite you 5492 03:24:37,698 --> 03:24:40,698 with your 15 minutes to make 5493 03:24:41,201 --> 03:24:41,568 your presentation. 5494 03:24:41,568 --> 03:24:42,169 Excellent. 5495 03:24:42,169 --> 03:24:42,802 Thank you very much. 5496 03:24:42,802 --> 03:24:45,202 Well good afternoon again. 5497 03:24:46,407 --> 03:24:47,107 I'm sure this doesn't happen 5498 03:24:47,107 --> 03:24:50,707 often but you know it's always 5499 03:24:51,178 --> 03:24:51,878 a good time as I previously 5500 03:24:51,878 --> 03:24:52,546 mentioned, my name is Anna and 5501 03:24:52,546 --> 03:24:54,946 i represent the appellant's 5502 03:24:55,282 --> 03:24:56,820 doctor, MRS. Cavanaugh who live 5503 03:24:56,820 --> 03:24:56,784 at 8270 five La Hoya Shores 5504 03:24:56,784 --> 03:24:59,184 Drive downstream neighbors of 5505 03:25:00,187 --> 03:25:01,121 the proposed project. 5506 03:25:01,121 --> 03:25:01,855 We were here today to request a 5507 03:25:01,855 --> 03:25:04,855 continuance but given that that 5508 03:25:05,326 --> 03:25:05,993 is not an option on the table, 5509 03:25:05,993 --> 03:25:08,993 we will continue and we 5510 03:25:09,864 --> 03:25:10,563 respectfully request that you 5511 03:25:10,563 --> 03:25:12,963 after hearing my presentation 5512 03:25:14,268 --> 03:25:15,350 decide to continue and require 5513 03:25:15,350 --> 03:25:18,350 future study future analysis of 5514 03:25:19,306 --> 03:25:20,700 the applicant, the Cabinets 5515 03:25:20,700 --> 03:25:20,741 appeal challenges the Planning 5516 03:25:20,741 --> 03:25:21,408 Commission findings on drainage 5517 03:25:21,408 --> 03:25:23,808 adequacy and the applicant's 5518 03:25:25,179 --> 03:25:25,813 legal authority with respect to 5519 03:25:25,813 --> 03:25:28,213 the private roadway Kyra. 5520 03:25:29,820 --> 03:25:29,682 >> First go to the applicant 5521 03:25:29,682 --> 03:25:32,682 has hired a third party 5522 03:25:33,354 --> 03:25:34,550 engineer who reviewed 5523 03:25:34,550 --> 03:25:34,755 the grading and drainage plans 5524 03:25:34,755 --> 03:25:37,755 provided by the applicant and 5525 03:25:38,626 --> 03:25:39,226 has found substantive and 5526 03:25:39,226 --> 03:25:39,894 legitimate concerns with 5527 03:25:39,894 --> 03:25:42,894 the drainage and grading of 5528 03:25:43,300 --> 03:25:43,797 report. 5529 03:25:43,797 --> 03:25:46,197 The project proposes to 5530 03:25:46,901 --> 03:25:47,702 discharge approximately 6.7 5531 03:25:47,702 --> 03:25:50,702 cubic feet per second of 5532 03:25:51,500 --> 03:25:51,739 stormwater towards Kyra First 5533 03:25:51,739 --> 03:25:55,339 cota and the Hoya Shores Drive. 5534 03:25:55,442 --> 03:25:56,343 This equates to roughly 50 5535 03:25:56,343 --> 03:25:59,547 gallons of water per second or 5536 03:25:59,547 --> 03:26:00,246 approximately 3000 gallons of 5537 03:26:00,246 --> 03:26:03,246 stormwater per minute during a 5538 03:26:03,917 --> 03:26:04,719 storm event. 5539 03:26:04,719 --> 03:26:05,420 This is the equivalent of 5540 03:26:05,420 --> 03:26:07,820 draining a typical residential 5541 03:26:08,823 --> 03:26:09,423 swimming pool into the streets 5542 03:26:09,423 --> 03:26:10,240 system every few minutes 5543 03:26:10,240 --> 03:26:12,240 creating a concentrated 5544 03:26:14,950 --> 03:26:14,795 discharge that raises 5545 03:26:14,795 --> 03:26:15,496 substantial concerns regarding 5546 03:26:15,496 --> 03:26:17,896 the downstream impacts street 5547 03:26:18,965 --> 03:26:19,834 capacity and public safety. 5548 03:26:19,834 --> 03:26:20,501 This is the Hoya Shores Drive a 5549 03:26:20,501 --> 03:26:22,901 very significant roadway in 5550 03:26:23,738 --> 03:26:24,639 this part of the town. 5551 03:26:24,639 --> 03:26:27,639 >> It is our engineers belief 5552 03:26:28,176 --> 03:26:28,776 that the curb cannot handle 5553 03:26:28,776 --> 03:26:29,443 this amount of water. 5554 03:26:29,443 --> 03:26:31,843 We are requesting that 5555 03:26:33,514 --> 03:26:34,115 the applicant perform 5556 03:26:34,115 --> 03:26:34,849 downstream analysis for 5557 03:26:34,849 --> 03:26:37,849 the water being discharged onto 5558 03:26:38,586 --> 03:26:39,353 the Hoya Shores Drive. 5559 03:26:39,353 --> 03:26:40,880 The current drainage study that 5560 03:26:40,880 --> 03:26:41,856 was presented with this product 5561 03:26:41,856 --> 03:26:44,856 does not currently contain this 5562 03:26:51,733 --> 03:26:52,567 downstream analysis. 5563 03:26:52,567 --> 03:26:54,967 The Cavanaugh residents please 5564 03:26:58,706 --> 03:26:59,173 continue. 5565 03:26:59,173 --> 03:26:59,841 >> Perfect. 5566 03:26:59,841 --> 03:27:02,841 So here you can see 5567 03:27:04,278 --> 03:27:05,130 the proposed project location. 5568 03:27:05,130 --> 03:27:05,747 The Cavanaugh residence is at 5569 03:27:05,747 --> 03:27:09,717 the corner of q four Scotia and 5570 03:27:09,717 --> 03:27:10,385 La Hoya Shores Drive at 5571 03:27:10,385 --> 03:27:11,850 the furthermost edge You can 5572 03:27:11,850 --> 03:27:14,489 see it there on the far left. 5573 03:27:14,489 --> 03:27:15,123 It is particular It is also 5574 03:27:15,123 --> 03:27:18,123 downhill of La Hoya Shores 5575 03:27:18,192 --> 03:27:18,893 Drive so therefore it is 5576 03:27:18,893 --> 03:27:19,527 particularly vulnerable to any 5577 03:27:19,527 --> 03:27:20,128 concentrated discharges or 5578 03:27:20,128 --> 03:27:22,528 failures in the proposed 5579 03:27:23,197 --> 03:27:23,831 drainage system serving 5580 03:27:23,831 --> 03:27:24,164 the project and adjoining 5581 03:27:24,164 --> 03:27:26,164 parcels. 5582 03:27:27,802 --> 03:27:28,470 My clients and other adjacent 5583 03:27:28,470 --> 03:27:29,103 homeowners would be directly 5584 03:27:29,103 --> 03:27:32,103 affected by any surface or 5585 03:27:33,107 --> 03:27:33,675 subsurface discharge rooted 5586 03:27:33,675 --> 03:27:34,475 through that corridor. 5587 03:27:34,475 --> 03:27:37,475 The Kavanagh third party water 5588 03:27:38,245 --> 03:27:38,846 resources engineer conducted a 5589 03:27:38,846 --> 03:27:41,246 study of the stormwater 5590 03:27:43,384 --> 03:27:46,984 assessment and a and produced a 5591 03:27:47,355 --> 03:27:47,921 memo reflecting its five 5592 03:27:47,921 --> 03:27:48,322 findings and proposed 5593 03:27:48,322 --> 03:27:48,923 conditions. 5594 03:27:48,923 --> 03:27:52,523 A copy of said memo was 5595 03:27:53,395 --> 03:27:54,162 provided last week and I 5596 03:27:54,162 --> 03:27:58,362 believe you all have a copy in 5597 03:27:58,433 --> 03:28:02,633 hand when you go back can you 5598 03:28:03,804 --> 03:28:05,804 actually reverse please? 5599 03:28:08,677 --> 03:28:09,277 >> The key concerns identified 5600 03:28:09,277 --> 03:28:09,978 by the engineer were 5601 03:28:09,978 --> 03:28:12,378 the following Western boundary 5602 03:28:13,481 --> 03:28:14,182 routing the brown ditch along 5603 03:28:14,182 --> 03:28:14,916 the western boundary is shown 5604 03:28:14,916 --> 03:28:15,516 routing directly into a 12 inch 5605 03:28:15,516 --> 03:28:17,916 storm drain on Caiaphas. 5606 03:28:18,385 --> 03:28:19,120 Go to bypassing the West Basin 5607 03:28:19,120 --> 03:28:21,520 and undermining q100 mitigation 5608 03:28:23,124 --> 03:28:23,858 and water quality treatment. 5609 03:28:23,858 --> 03:28:24,359 Prior versions also reference 5610 03:28:24,359 --> 03:28:24,993 prior versions of 5611 03:28:24,993 --> 03:28:27,393 the applicant's plans also 5612 03:28:28,330 --> 03:28:28,996 referenced a pump to lift flows 5613 03:28:28,996 --> 03:28:32,334 to Basin b one But current 5614 03:28:32,334 --> 03:28:33,101 documents lack the clarity on 5615 03:28:33,101 --> 03:28:33,535 whether or not that pump is 5616 03:28:33,535 --> 03:28:34,169 there or not. 5617 03:28:34,169 --> 03:28:36,169 Additionally, the engineer 5618 03:28:37,572 --> 03:28:38,306 found that the Basin two is 5619 03:28:38,306 --> 03:28:40,706 marginally undersized for water 5620 03:28:42,430 --> 03:28:42,710 quality performance. 5621 03:28:42,710 --> 03:28:45,710 Also a conjunctive use basin 5622 03:28:46,948 --> 03:28:47,649 shows inadequate freeboard for 5623 03:28:47,649 --> 03:28:48,617 q100 water events and appears 5624 03:28:48,617 --> 03:28:52,387 to rely on low flow under drain 5625 03:28:52,387 --> 03:28:52,954 orifices for q 100 discharge 5626 03:28:52,954 --> 03:28:53,655 which is not allowed. 5627 03:28:53,655 --> 03:28:56,550 Conjunctive use just means 5628 03:28:57,392 --> 03:28:58,126 shared uses for both stormwater 5629 03:28:58,126 --> 03:29:00,526 treatment and collection during 5630 03:29:01,430 --> 03:29:02,130 storm events. 5631 03:29:02,130 --> 03:29:02,898 Pump design and failure 5632 03:29:02,898 --> 03:29:06,498 contingencies If a pump is used 5633 03:29:07,690 --> 03:29:07,636 to lift western flows to Basin 5634 03:29:07,636 --> 03:29:10,360 b one the applicant's 5635 03:29:11,273 --> 03:29:11,973 submittals lack design sizing, 5636 03:29:11,973 --> 03:29:12,574 housing power reliability and 5637 03:29:12,574 --> 03:29:14,974 redundancy of this pump. 5638 03:29:16,311 --> 03:29:16,978 Emergency overflow analysis has 5639 03:29:16,978 --> 03:29:19,978 also absent from its report. 5640 03:29:21,516 --> 03:29:22,317 And lastly the 12 inch storm 5641 03:29:22,317 --> 03:29:25,317 drain proposed in Cairo for 5642 03:29:26,880 --> 03:29:26,822 Skoda omits hydraulic sizing 5643 03:29:26,822 --> 03:29:30,422 and in the capture analysis And 5644 03:29:30,659 --> 03:29:31,325 as I previously mentioned that 5645 03:29:31,325 --> 03:29:33,725 downstream water analysis of 5646 03:29:35,297 --> 03:29:35,997 the flows coming off from 5647 03:29:35,997 --> 03:29:38,997 the project site and flowing 5648 03:29:44,439 --> 03:29:45,140 into the higher shores drive in 5649 03:29:45,140 --> 03:29:45,741 addition to the question as to 5650 03:29:45,741 --> 03:29:48,141 the drainage design and 5651 03:29:49,778 --> 03:29:50,479 the storm water deficiencies 5652 03:29:50,479 --> 03:29:53,479 identified by the third party 5653 03:29:54,850 --> 03:29:55,483 water resources engineer. 5654 03:29:55,483 --> 03:29:56,218 There remains the issue of 5655 03:29:56,218 --> 03:29:59,221 the ownership of Cairo First go 5656 03:29:59,221 --> 03:29:59,888 to this private roadway and 5657 03:29:59,888 --> 03:30:00,589 whether or not the applicant 5658 03:30:00,589 --> 03:30:04,250 has the right to utilize Cairo 5659 03:30:04,250 --> 03:30:04,660 for Skoda for the installation 5660 03:30:04,660 --> 03:30:07,600 repair and replacement of 5661 03:30:08,197 --> 03:30:08,797 public utilities without 5662 03:30:08,797 --> 03:30:11,797 the consent of the other 5663 03:30:13,235 --> 03:30:13,535 co-owners including Cavanaugh's 5664 03:30:13,535 --> 03:30:14,236 . 5665 03:30:14,236 --> 03:30:17,236 According to the document that 5666 03:30:17,906 --> 03:30:18,641 was referenced document number 5667 03:30:18,641 --> 03:30:21,410 43 967 the original grant deed 5668 03:30:22,844 --> 03:30:23,479 It states that an interest is 5669 03:30:23,479 --> 03:30:26,479 granted in the property in 5670 03:30:27,783 --> 03:30:28,317 interest which implies for 5671 03:30:28,317 --> 03:30:29,180 ownership. 5672 03:30:29,180 --> 03:30:32,180 The at the appellants advocate 5673 03:30:32,687 --> 03:30:33,222 the hire for Skoda is not an 5674 03:30:33,222 --> 03:30:35,622 easement for use by 5675 03:30:36,892 --> 03:30:37,560 the developer but instead it is 5676 03:30:37,560 --> 03:30:39,960 privately owned in undivided 5677 03:30:40,596 --> 03:30:41,230 fee interest by five co-owners 5678 03:30:41,230 --> 03:30:43,230 including the Cavanaugh's. 5679 03:30:45,835 --> 03:30:46,535 There is no record it easement 5680 03:30:46,535 --> 03:30:49,535 burdening that parcel in favor 5681 03:30:50,106 --> 03:30:50,773 of the projects proposed 5682 03:30:50,773 --> 03:30:51,507 private stormwater discharge 5683 03:30:51,507 --> 03:30:54,507 over the other owners interests 5684 03:30:56,478 --> 03:30:57,146 further Kenya for Skoda has its 5685 03:30:57,146 --> 03:30:59,546 own assessor's parcel number 5686 03:31:00,820 --> 03:31:00,816 and for many years the county 5687 03:31:00,816 --> 03:31:01,517 tax collector issued a secured 5688 03:31:01,517 --> 03:31:04,517 tax bill specifically for this 5689 03:31:05,554 --> 03:31:06,221 private right of way In 5690 03:31:06,221 --> 03:31:06,889 California, paying property 5691 03:31:06,889 --> 03:31:10,590 taxes is a strong indicia of 5692 03:31:10,590 --> 03:31:10,760 fee interest. 5693 03:31:10,760 --> 03:31:11,460 To date the applicant has not 5694 03:31:11,460 --> 03:31:13,860 received written consent from 5695 03:31:15,197 --> 03:31:15,931 the other co-owners for 5696 03:31:15,931 --> 03:31:16,665 installing private drainage and 5697 03:31:16,665 --> 03:31:19,650 sewer improvements proposed for 5698 03:31:20,703 --> 03:31:21,337 the project from my clients 5699 03:31:21,337 --> 03:31:22,710 the Cavanaugh's or any of 5700 03:31:22,710 --> 03:31:24,874 the other property owners along 5701 03:31:24,874 --> 03:31:25,607 Kyra for Skoda we therefore 5702 03:31:25,607 --> 03:31:28,700 state there remains fundamental 5703 03:31:29,444 --> 03:31:30,450 authority and an access 5704 03:31:30,450 --> 03:31:30,645 concerns that should be 5705 03:31:30,645 --> 03:31:33,450 resolved before any city 5706 03:31:34,116 --> 03:31:34,784 approvals of the project 5707 03:31:34,784 --> 03:31:35,451 dependent are given that are 5708 03:31:35,451 --> 03:31:39,510 dependent on the use of this 5709 03:31:52,101 --> 03:31:52,802 private right of way that 5710 03:31:52,802 --> 03:31:55,802 the third party engineer also 5711 03:31:56,973 --> 03:31:57,440 provided corrective conditions 5712 03:31:57,440 --> 03:31:59,440 in its report. 5713 03:32:02,780 --> 03:32:02,778 Here are a few Prior to 5714 03:32:02,778 --> 03:32:05,178 granting approval we recommend 5715 03:32:06,816 --> 03:32:07,550 again that the Council continue 5716 03:32:07,550 --> 03:32:08,217 to study these conditions and 5717 03:32:08,217 --> 03:32:11,217 whether or not they actually 5718 03:32:11,687 --> 03:32:12,155 meet with the concerns 5719 03:32:12,155 --> 03:32:14,155 addressed today. 5720 03:32:16,626 --> 03:32:17,326 But first we require we request 5721 03:32:17,326 --> 03:32:17,994 that the Council require final 5722 03:32:17,994 --> 03:32:18,694 stamp plans that positively 5723 03:32:18,694 --> 03:32:21,694 route all tributary flows from 5724 03:32:21,997 --> 03:32:24,997 the Western brow ditch into 5725 03:32:26,702 --> 03:32:27,503 basin be one also before 5726 03:32:27,503 --> 03:32:30,503 permits are issued We require 5727 03:32:31,374 --> 03:32:32,800 detention provisions 5728 03:32:32,800 --> 03:32:32,708 demonstrating one foot of 5729 03:32:32,708 --> 03:32:35,108 freeboard above q 100 ponding 5730 03:32:36,546 --> 03:32:39,282 in each basin and no reliance 5731 03:32:39,282 --> 03:32:39,882 on under drain or orifice for q 5732 03:32:39,882 --> 03:32:40,583 100 discharge condition 5733 03:32:40,583 --> 03:32:43,583 approval on field pump design 5734 03:32:43,685 --> 03:32:44,387 peak flow head calculations 5735 03:32:44,387 --> 03:32:45,870 exposure and power reliability 5736 03:32:45,870 --> 03:32:47,487 emergency overflow routing and 5737 03:32:49,125 --> 03:32:49,826 redundancy including a backup 5738 03:32:49,826 --> 03:32:53,426 pump for the Western system If 5739 03:32:54,163 --> 03:32:54,931 a pump is used And again is 5740 03:32:54,931 --> 03:32:55,364 there going to be a water pump, 5741 03:32:55,364 --> 03:32:56,650 is there not? 5742 03:32:56,650 --> 03:32:59,665 What is going to happen for 5743 03:33:01,700 --> 03:33:01,771 this water flow require 5744 03:33:01,771 --> 03:33:04,171 complete hydraulic sizing and 5745 03:33:05,975 --> 03:33:06,576 inlet capture analysis for 5746 03:33:06,576 --> 03:33:07,310 the 12 inch water line, 5747 03:33:07,310 --> 03:33:09,710 reconcile alignment across plan 5748 03:33:10,947 --> 03:33:11,647 sets and demonstrate 5749 03:33:11,647 --> 03:33:12,348 the concentrated discharge at 5750 03:33:12,348 --> 03:33:12,982 La Hoya shorts Drive is safely 5751 03:33:12,982 --> 03:33:15,382 accommodated in the public 5752 03:33:15,985 --> 03:33:16,820 right away. 5753 03:33:16,820 --> 03:33:17,453 We maintain that it is not 5754 03:33:17,453 --> 03:33:19,853 clear from the applicant's 5755 03:33:21,224 --> 03:33:21,924 plans whether or not it will be 5756 03:33:21,924 --> 03:33:22,692 safe for that amount of water 5757 03:33:22,692 --> 03:33:25,428 to be discharged into La Hoya 5758 03:33:25,428 --> 03:33:26,296 Shore's Drive. 5759 03:33:26,296 --> 03:33:29,296 >> We'd also like the applicant 5760 03:33:30,266 --> 03:33:30,966 to confirm all bio filtration 5761 03:33:30,966 --> 03:33:31,568 facilities meet minimum water 5762 03:33:31,568 --> 03:33:32,135 quality sizing including 5763 03:33:32,135 --> 03:33:34,535 the correction of any 5764 03:33:40,760 --> 03:33:40,777 undersized. 5765 03:33:40,777 --> 03:33:43,177 The applicant believes that 5766 03:33:45,140 --> 03:33:45,749 there are significant questions 5767 03:33:45,749 --> 03:33:46,483 about the drainage studies that 5768 03:33:46,483 --> 03:33:49,483 were done and submitted to 5769 03:33:50,653 --> 03:33:51,254 the city staff for review and 5770 03:33:51,254 --> 03:33:51,921 therefore we would like 5771 03:33:51,921 --> 03:33:54,921 the Council to continue this 5772 03:33:55,225 --> 03:33:55,924 hearing to further analyze 5773 03:33:55,924 --> 03:33:58,924 the applicant's plans and tell 5774 03:33:59,629 --> 03:34:00,330 us whether or not the plans 5775 03:34:00,330 --> 03:34:00,697 adequately address storm water 5776 03:34:00,697 --> 03:34:02,697 concerns. 5777 03:34:05,335 --> 03:34:06,102 I, I would now like to give 5778 03:34:06,102 --> 03:34:10,302 some of my time to my clients 5779 03:34:12,609 --> 03:34:16,209 if they are available on Zoom. 5780 03:34:17,480 --> 03:34:17,881 Yes we are available. 5781 03:34:17,881 --> 03:34:19,881 Hi. 5782 03:34:22,485 --> 03:34:23,353 Let me know when to start. 5783 03:34:23,353 --> 03:34:23,720 We can hear you here in council 5784 03:34:23,720 --> 03:34:25,720 chambers. 5785 03:34:26,856 --> 03:34:27,390 Okay. 5786 03:34:27,390 --> 03:34:28,123 All right. 5787 03:34:28,123 --> 03:34:31,723 Well thank you to the council 5788 03:34:33,960 --> 03:34:33,797 members and and I'm already 5789 03:34:33,797 --> 03:34:34,564 Cavenagh and my wife Lynn and 5790 03:34:34,564 --> 03:34:36,933 we live here and lived here for 5791 03:34:36,933 --> 03:34:37,634 a long time and we are just 5792 03:34:37,634 --> 03:34:41,234 trying to do what's right for 5793 03:34:41,670 --> 03:34:42,471 the overall community here. 5794 03:34:42,471 --> 03:34:43,206 I was very disappointed to hear 5795 03:34:43,206 --> 03:34:46,760 the applicant's lawyer say that 5796 03:34:46,760 --> 03:34:46,777 they had reached out to us. 5797 03:34:46,777 --> 03:34:47,511 That is absolutely not true. 5798 03:34:47,511 --> 03:34:50,447 We have reached out to them 5799 03:34:50,447 --> 03:34:51,348 multiple multiple times And 5800 03:34:51,348 --> 03:34:52,115 what we have found is when they 5801 03:34:52,115 --> 03:34:55,115 finally did respond it was 5802 03:34:55,752 --> 03:34:56,453 bullying barely responsive, 5803 03:34:56,453 --> 03:34:59,453 basically saying they could do 5804 03:35:00,824 --> 03:35:01,425 whatever they want and that 5805 03:35:01,425 --> 03:35:02,920 basically that was that. 5806 03:35:02,920 --> 03:35:05,920 So not transparent at all. 5807 03:35:06,363 --> 03:35:06,797 We did engage some engineers to 5808 03:35:06,797 --> 03:35:07,497 look at this. 5809 03:35:07,497 --> 03:35:11,970 We went with one The engineer 5810 03:35:11,100 --> 03:35:11,835 had a difficult time because 5811 03:35:11,835 --> 03:35:12,536 the plans kept changing in fact 5812 03:35:12,536 --> 03:35:14,936 throughout this whole process 5813 03:35:16,600 --> 03:35:16,773 is not clear what the final 5814 03:35:16,773 --> 03:35:20,444 result is going to be which for 5815 03:35:20,444 --> 03:35:21,110 an engineer it makes it very 5816 03:35:21,110 --> 03:35:23,110 difficult to estimate 5817 03:35:25,415 --> 03:35:26,183 the accuracy of the plans and 5818 03:35:26,183 --> 03:35:26,950 how that will store it out. 5819 03:35:26,950 --> 03:35:29,350 We asked them about 5820 03:35:30,654 --> 03:35:31,288 the maintenance and that's of 5821 03:35:31,288 --> 03:35:33,688 course very important when 5822 03:35:35,325 --> 03:35:36,930 you're talking about situations 5823 03:35:36,930 --> 03:35:36,426 in which a drain can be 5824 03:35:36,426 --> 03:35:37,270 blocked. 5825 03:35:37,270 --> 03:35:39,427 Maintenance can be very 5826 03:35:40,297 --> 03:35:40,764 important and there is no 5827 03:35:40,764 --> 03:35:41,498 answer on that. 5828 03:35:41,498 --> 03:35:44,967 And now I begin to understand 5829 03:35:44,967 --> 03:35:45,669 with hearing from other 5830 03:35:45,669 --> 03:35:46,303 neighbors about the fact that 5831 03:35:46,303 --> 03:35:49,673 it's an issue if they have 5832 03:35:49,673 --> 03:35:50,240 the legal authority to act on 5833 03:35:50,240 --> 03:35:52,640 behalf of the whoever 5834 03:35:53,944 --> 03:35:54,912 the owners are which is not up 5835 03:35:54,912 --> 03:35:59,820 to us but we need to know that 5836 03:35:59,820 --> 03:35:59,950 there is some maintenance plan 5837 03:35:59,950 --> 03:36:03,550 for a complex set of drainage 5838 03:36:04,855 --> 03:36:07,255 designs such as this. 5839 03:36:08,992 --> 03:36:09,360 We need to see those new 5840 03:36:09,360 --> 03:36:11,360 additions. 5841 03:36:13,631 --> 03:36:14,231 We had not seen those shown by 5842 03:36:14,231 --> 03:36:14,998 the city city staffers 5843 03:36:14,998 --> 03:36:18,598 mentioned just now and with all 5844 03:36:19,369 --> 03:36:22,969 due respect, MR. LaCava, the if 5845 03:36:23,874 --> 03:36:24,641 I was a seeing a patient and 5846 03:36:24,641 --> 03:36:28,241 said here here's a new medicine 5847 03:36:29,800 --> 03:36:32,483 read this 20 pages of Plant ten 5848 03:36:32,483 --> 03:36:33,284 and decide right now if you 5849 03:36:33,284 --> 03:36:33,850 want to take this medicine that 5850 03:36:33,850 --> 03:36:35,850 would be malpractice. 5851 03:36:37,821 --> 03:36:38,722 So I think we need time to look 5852 03:36:38,722 --> 03:36:39,356 at what is proposed And I'm a 5853 03:36:39,356 --> 03:36:42,356 little worried when I see 5854 03:36:42,725 --> 03:36:43,494 the things that are proposed 5855 03:36:43,494 --> 03:36:44,194 because it all says to be 5856 03:36:44,194 --> 03:36:44,862 approved by the city engineer. 5857 03:36:44,862 --> 03:36:47,331 It's almost like we have to 5858 03:36:47,331 --> 03:36:47,998 approve the project and started 5859 03:36:47,998 --> 03:36:51,598 to be able to see what 5860 03:36:52,169 --> 03:36:53,300 the final plans are and then by 5861 03:36:53,300 --> 03:36:53,737 then it MAY be too late to know 5862 03:36:53,737 --> 03:36:57,700 if they're going to be adequate 5863 03:36:57,700 --> 03:36:57,775 for this situation. 5864 03:36:57,775 --> 03:36:58,475 So I think a continuance is 5865 03:36:58,475 --> 03:37:01,475 absolutely indicated so we can 5866 03:37:03,481 --> 03:37:04,115 address these issues and was as 5867 03:37:04,115 --> 03:37:06,515 raised by COUNCILMAN When 5868 03:37:06,818 --> 03:37:07,685 Schenck has the city engineer 5869 03:37:07,685 --> 03:37:08,385 weighed in on this as of yet? 5870 03:37:08,385 --> 03:37:10,785 I'd be pretty uncomfortable 5871 03:37:12,560 --> 03:37:12,756 kicking that down the road and 5872 03:37:12,756 --> 03:37:13,424 saying well they'll review it 5873 03:37:13,424 --> 03:37:16,424 and make sure everything is 5874 03:37:16,560 --> 03:37:17,328 okay by them. 5875 03:37:17,328 --> 03:37:20,328 We understand that the easement 5876 03:37:21,932 --> 03:37:22,633 versus the title that that's a 5877 03:37:22,633 --> 03:37:25,633 dispute that the city doesn't 5878 03:37:26,804 --> 03:37:27,505 want to get into But we think 5879 03:37:27,505 --> 03:37:30,505 it's very important And again 5880 03:37:31,342 --> 03:37:32,900 trying to approach 5881 03:37:32,900 --> 03:37:32,610 the applicants they've been 5882 03:37:32,610 --> 03:37:35,580 bullying and just say we 5883 03:37:35,580 --> 03:37:36,347 basically can do whatever we 5884 03:37:36,347 --> 03:37:37,140 want will tear out all your 5885 03:37:37,140 --> 03:37:37,682 bushes don't have to put it 5886 03:37:37,682 --> 03:37:40,484 back Now we understand that 5887 03:37:40,484 --> 03:37:40,818 that's not actually the case 5888 03:37:40,818 --> 03:37:41,485 either. 5889 03:37:41,485 --> 03:37:44,485 So we would request further 5890 03:37:45,322 --> 03:37:45,690 time to look at this further 5891 03:37:45,690 --> 03:37:46,190 analysis. 5892 03:37:46,190 --> 03:37:49,190 We MAY have to get 5893 03:37:50,261 --> 03:37:50,927 the engineers reengaged because 5894 03:37:50,927 --> 03:37:53,927 the plans keep changing and 5895 03:37:55,499 --> 03:37:56,000 they couldn't actually tell how 5896 03:37:56,000 --> 03:37:56,667 adequate it was. 5897 03:37:56,667 --> 03:37:59,667 But as you heard from 5898 03:38:00,271 --> 03:38:01,500 the attorney, a lot of serious 5899 03:38:01,500 --> 03:38:01,706 issues are raised just based on 5900 03:38:01,706 --> 03:38:04,706 the information that they had 5901 03:38:05,276 --> 03:38:05,977 provided to them very little by 5902 03:38:05,977 --> 03:38:08,377 the applicant other available 5903 03:38:10,381 --> 03:38:11,150 online So respectfully we would 5904 03:38:11,150 --> 03:38:11,883 ask that this be continued 5905 03:38:11,883 --> 03:38:15,453 because we think these are very 5906 03:38:15,453 --> 03:38:16,187 important issues and for 5907 03:38:16,187 --> 03:38:19,787 the good of this community they 5908 03:38:19,824 --> 03:38:20,391 need to be resolved before 5909 03:38:20,391 --> 03:38:21,580 proceeding with a very 5910 03:38:21,580 --> 03:38:21,359 substantial project such as 5911 03:38:21,359 --> 03:38:23,359 this. 5912 03:38:27,365 --> 03:38:28,990 Thank you. 5913 03:38:28,990 --> 03:38:31,990 Any other concluding remarks or 5914 03:38:32,370 --> 03:38:33,404 so some time on the clock? 5915 03:38:33,404 --> 03:38:37,604 >> If not we will If I would 5916 03:38:37,842 --> 03:38:38,576 like to give some concluding 5917 03:38:38,576 --> 03:38:39,243 remarks then cede whatever time 5918 03:38:39,243 --> 03:38:42,347 I have left to Bernie Siegel 5919 03:38:42,347 --> 03:38:42,680 That is a lot of your time is 5920 03:38:42,680 --> 03:38:43,147 running. 5921 03:38:43,147 --> 03:38:43,615 >> So All right. 5922 03:38:43,615 --> 03:38:45,615 Well, thank you. 5923 03:38:47,285 --> 03:38:47,986 Members of the council for our 5924 03:38:47,986 --> 03:38:51,289 hearing our hearing to hear in 5925 03:38:51,289 --> 03:38:52,156 our appeal today. 5926 03:38:52,156 --> 03:38:52,890 >> We believe that there are 5927 03:38:52,890 --> 03:38:55,290 substantive drainage issues and 5928 03:38:55,760 --> 03:38:57,760 legal questions surrounding 5929 03:39:00,498 --> 03:39:01,332 the applicant's ability to 5930 03:39:01,332 --> 03:39:02,330 perform this work in the public 5931 03:39:02,330 --> 03:39:05,136 right in the private right of 5932 03:39:05,136 --> 03:39:05,837 way as well as the applicant's 5933 03:39:05,837 --> 03:39:06,504 ability to control stormwater 5934 03:39:06,504 --> 03:39:09,504 runoff from the project site 5935 03:39:10,275 --> 03:39:10,875 Applicant's appellants stated 5936 03:39:10,875 --> 03:39:11,476 intent is a responsible 5937 03:39:11,476 --> 03:39:13,876 approval of this project 5938 03:39:15,450 --> 03:39:15,680 The protects downstream 5939 03:39:15,680 --> 03:39:16,380 properties while allowing 5940 03:39:16,380 --> 03:39:16,714 compliant drainage for design 5941 03:39:16,714 --> 03:39:18,714 design. 5942 03:39:20,218 --> 03:39:20,919 We are not in a we are not in 5943 03:39:20,919 --> 03:39:23,919 total objection to the project 5944 03:39:24,355 --> 03:39:24,789 we just have questions that 5945 03:39:24,789 --> 03:39:25,523 need answers. 5946 03:39:25,523 --> 03:39:29,123 There are gaps in the analysis 5947 03:39:29,461 --> 03:39:30,161 and the applicant has not been 5948 03:39:30,161 --> 03:39:30,595 able to answer those to our 5949 03:39:30,595 --> 03:39:32,595 satisfaction. 5950 03:39:36,500 --> 03:39:37,350 >> Thank you. 5951 03:39:37,350 --> 03:39:37,835 All right. 5952 03:39:37,835 --> 03:39:41,172 If you have very little time if 5953 03:39:41,172 --> 03:39:44,772 you'd like to come up there's 5954 03:39:46,770 --> 03:39:46,845 30s that we have to continue. 5955 03:39:46,845 --> 03:39:50,148 Can you tell Bernard he only 5956 03:39:50,148 --> 03:39:54,948 has 30s so So that he knows I 5957 03:39:55,554 --> 03:39:56,121 believe that the count this 5958 03:39:56,121 --> 03:39:58,521 council does not have 5959 03:40:00,458 --> 03:40:01,126 jurisdiction to hear project 5960 03:40:01,126 --> 03:40:04,126 that's being proposed by MR. 5961 03:40:04,662 --> 03:40:05,330 Bush because he the owner of 5962 03:40:05,330 --> 03:40:05,897 record is still the limited 5963 03:40:05,897 --> 03:40:07,897 partnership which was 5964 03:40:08,900 --> 03:40:09,634 the original according to 5965 03:40:09,634 --> 03:40:10,302 the Internet original applicant 5966 03:40:10,302 --> 03:40:13,302 the named applicant in this 5967 03:40:14,306 --> 03:40:15,600 proceeding and MR. Fosh does 5968 03:40:15,600 --> 03:40:18,600 has nothing in writing that's 5969 03:40:18,877 --> 03:40:19,644 been displayed publicly to show 5970 03:40:19,644 --> 03:40:20,344 that he has authority to do any 5971 03:40:20,344 --> 03:40:23,648 of these things or file any 5972 03:40:23,648 --> 03:40:24,282 documents or speak on behalf of 5973 03:40:24,282 --> 03:40:27,282 the actual and the actual 5974 03:40:27,852 --> 03:40:28,553 members the six members Thank 5975 03:40:28,553 --> 03:40:29,221 you for showing any authority 5976 03:40:29,221 --> 03:40:29,921 your time has concluded sir. 5977 03:40:29,921 --> 03:40:32,857 Thank you for that concluding 5978 03:40:32,857 --> 03:40:34,857 remark. 5979 03:40:38,196 --> 03:40:38,730 >> All right now give 5980 03:40:38,730 --> 03:40:39,130 the applicant equal 5981 03:40:39,130 --> 03:40:41,130 opportunity. 5982 03:40:43,535 --> 03:40:44,202 >> Does the applicant want to 5983 03:40:44,202 --> 03:40:47,172 speak up for the records And 5984 03:40:47,172 --> 03:40:47,672 you have up to 15 minutes for 5985 03:40:47,672 --> 03:40:48,273 your presentation. 5986 03:40:48,273 --> 03:40:50,673 >> Thank you very much. 5987 03:40:52,543 --> 03:40:53,245 Council PRESIDENT LaCava and 5988 03:40:53,245 --> 03:40:53,812 distinguished Council members. 5989 03:40:53,812 --> 03:40:56,812 My name is Brian Will. 5990 03:40:57,150 --> 03:40:57,716 I'm the architect for 5991 03:40:57,716 --> 03:40:58,417 the Claymore subdivision along 5992 03:40:58,417 --> 03:40:59,510 with my business partner Andy 5993 03:40:59,510 --> 03:41:01,451 Fortune who was previously 5994 03:41:04,560 --> 03:41:04,756 mentioned. 5995 03:41:04,756 --> 03:41:07,756 I'll be brief What you're 5996 03:41:09,261 --> 03:41:09,962 looking at is a subdivision of 5997 03:41:09,962 --> 03:41:12,962 the proposed development as it 5998 03:41:14,199 --> 03:41:14,900 would appear within the fabric 5999 03:41:14,900 --> 03:41:15,667 of Illinois shores six new 6000 03:41:15,667 --> 03:41:18,804 custom homes on a four and a 6001 03:41:18,804 --> 03:41:19,538 half acre site each designed 6002 03:41:19,538 --> 03:41:22,538 with an argument home homeowner 6003 03:41:23,475 --> 03:41:24,243 who has been directly involved 6004 03:41:24,243 --> 03:41:24,843 in every stage of this project 6005 03:41:24,843 --> 03:41:27,243 from the concept through 6006 03:41:28,146 --> 03:41:28,914 permitting. 6007 03:41:28,914 --> 03:41:31,314 Admittedly these are six 6008 03:41:33,451 --> 03:41:34,860 gracious homes but in a 6009 03:41:34,860 --> 03:41:36,860 neighborhood surrounded by 6010 03:41:38,230 --> 03:41:38,657 gracious homes we're here today 6011 03:41:38,657 --> 03:41:39,258 on an appeal that centers 6012 03:41:39,258 --> 03:41:39,625 solely on the stormwater 6013 03:41:39,625 --> 03:41:41,625 drainage. 6014 03:41:41,793 --> 03:41:42,461 However, I'd like to briefly 6015 03:41:42,461 --> 03:41:43,162 walk through the projects 6016 03:41:43,162 --> 03:41:45,562 context and community history 6017 03:41:47,233 --> 03:41:47,600 before turning to the technical 6018 03:41:47,600 --> 03:41:48,100 question. 6019 03:41:48,100 --> 03:41:50,100 Next slide please. 6020 03:41:51,136 --> 03:41:51,837 This overhead view shows 6021 03:41:51,837 --> 03:41:52,504 the six proposed proposed lot 6022 03:41:52,504 --> 03:41:55,504 footprints in the context of 6023 03:41:56,708 --> 03:41:57,643 the surrounding neighborhood. 6024 03:41:57,643 --> 03:42:02,181 The site at the sits at the end 6025 03:42:02,181 --> 03:42:02,981 of Cadel Cielo from the North 6026 03:42:02,981 --> 03:42:05,350 and q four Scotter from 6027 03:42:05,350 --> 03:42:06,118 the west. 6028 03:42:06,118 --> 03:42:06,819 >> Each of the six lots has 6029 03:42:06,819 --> 03:42:09,819 been designed to be consistent 6030 03:42:10,856 --> 03:42:11,524 with the scale and character of 6031 03:42:11,524 --> 03:42:12,224 surrounding properties floor 6032 03:42:12,224 --> 03:42:15,224 area ratios across the project 6033 03:42:15,927 --> 03:42:18,327 range from 0.18 to 0.33 well 6034 03:42:20,365 --> 03:42:21,100 below the zoning code maximum 6035 03:42:21,100 --> 03:42:21,800 and within the range you see on 6036 03:42:21,800 --> 03:42:24,200 the neighboring parcels shown 6037 03:42:25,337 --> 03:42:26,710 on this plan all lots comply 6038 03:42:26,710 --> 03:42:29,710 with the applicable setback and 6039 03:42:30,800 --> 03:42:30,643 zoning requirements with no 6040 03:42:30,643 --> 03:42:31,210 zone, with no variances or 6041 03:42:31,210 --> 03:42:33,210 deviations requested. 6042 03:42:35,147 --> 03:42:35,514 This is not a developer driven 6043 03:42:35,514 --> 03:42:36,215 projects. 6044 03:42:36,215 --> 03:42:39,215 Six families came together to 6045 03:42:39,818 --> 03:42:43,522 form an llc so that they could 6046 03:42:43,522 --> 03:42:44,190 purchase this property Once six 6047 03:42:44,190 --> 03:42:47,190 parcels are created by this 6048 03:42:48,360 --> 03:42:49,610 action they can take individual 6049 03:42:49,610 --> 03:42:49,928 ownership but there's no other 6050 03:42:49,928 --> 03:42:53,398 way to do that besides to form 6051 03:42:53,398 --> 03:42:54,199 the llc Previously mentioned 6052 03:42:54,199 --> 03:42:54,867 every family at this table has 6053 03:42:54,867 --> 03:42:57,267 been personally involved in 6054 03:42:57,803 --> 03:42:58,103 this project for the past four 6055 03:42:58,103 --> 03:42:58,771 years. 6056 03:42:58,771 --> 03:43:01,171 That personal investment is 6057 03:43:02,207 --> 03:43:02,808 reflected in how this project 6058 03:43:02,808 --> 03:43:03,242 has been handled within 6059 03:43:03,242 --> 03:43:05,242 the community. 6060 03:43:06,912 --> 03:43:09,912 This project has attended not 6061 03:43:10,783 --> 03:43:11,417 less than seven community 6062 03:43:11,417 --> 03:43:13,417 community subcommittee and 6063 03:43:15,887 --> 03:43:16,489 local planning group meetings 6064 03:43:16,489 --> 03:43:18,489 culminating in unanimous 6065 03:43:20,192 --> 03:43:20,860 support from the local planning 6066 03:43:20,860 --> 03:43:23,860 group numerous one on one 6067 03:43:24,563 --> 03:43:25,230 meetings with neighbors 6068 03:43:25,230 --> 03:43:25,930 listening to their concerns, 6069 03:43:25,930 --> 03:43:27,930 incorporating suggestions and 6070 03:43:29,635 --> 03:43:30,303 making changes even after 6071 03:43:30,303 --> 03:43:32,303 receiving unanimous approval 6072 03:43:34,273 --> 03:43:34,873 from the planning condition 6073 03:43:34,873 --> 03:43:35,608 Commission, our team has 6074 03:43:35,608 --> 03:43:39,208 continued to work in good faith 6075 03:43:39,811 --> 03:43:40,446 with neighbors relocate a 6076 03:43:40,446 --> 03:43:41,180 swimming pool and increase 6077 03:43:41,180 --> 03:43:44,180 sound walls to address neighbor 6078 03:43:44,784 --> 03:43:45,417 noise concerns over ordinary 6079 03:43:45,417 --> 03:43:47,817 residential use offered to 6080 03:43:49,550 --> 03:43:49,755 voluntarily restrict 6081 03:43:49,755 --> 03:43:50,423 construction hours to minimize 6082 03:43:50,423 --> 03:43:52,823 disruption to neighbors and 6083 03:43:54,327 --> 03:43:54,926 drafting an easement to allow 6084 03:43:54,926 --> 03:43:55,561 one neighbor to continue 6085 03:43:55,561 --> 03:43:57,561 enjoying some encroaching 6086 03:43:59,198 --> 03:43:59,865 landscape on our property. 6087 03:43:59,865 --> 03:44:00,466 None of these items were 6088 03:44:00,466 --> 03:44:03,466 required as part of our 6089 03:44:04,437 --> 03:44:05,304 approval but necessary in my 6090 03:44:05,304 --> 03:44:08,904 client's eyes as to be good 6091 03:44:09,800 --> 03:44:09,775 neighbors. 6092 03:44:09,775 --> 03:44:10,476 The appeal before you today is 6093 03:44:10,476 --> 03:44:10,843 focused entirely on stormwater 6094 03:44:10,843 --> 03:44:12,843 drainage. 6095 03:44:13,513 --> 03:44:14,246 We have both our land use 6096 03:44:14,246 --> 03:44:14,980 attorney and our civil engineer 6097 03:44:14,980 --> 03:44:18,580 on hand to answer any technical 6098 03:44:19,180 --> 03:44:19,719 questions on the matter But let 6099 03:44:19,719 --> 03:44:20,186 me first orient you to our 6100 03:44:20,186 --> 03:44:22,186 drainage design. 6101 03:44:23,523 --> 03:44:27,123 >> Could I see the next slide? 6102 03:44:28,126 --> 03:44:28,428 >> The site drains from east to 6103 03:44:28,428 --> 03:44:29,162 west. 6104 03:44:29,162 --> 03:44:32,699 >> It's on the low lying slopes 6105 03:44:32,699 --> 03:44:33,433 in La Hoya Shores the three 6106 03:44:33,433 --> 03:44:37,330 lots in yellow and the majority 6107 03:44:37,904 --> 03:44:38,604 of the cul de sac drain to 6108 03:44:38,604 --> 03:44:42,375 the bayou basin at the top of 6109 03:44:42,375 --> 03:44:42,976 the page in orange the lower 6110 03:44:42,976 --> 03:44:45,376 three lots drain towards 6111 03:44:48,247 --> 03:44:50,830 the green bio base and and then 6112 03:44:50,830 --> 03:44:50,950 any access is routed underneath 6113 03:44:50,950 --> 03:44:51,584 q four scudder to the curb cut 6114 03:44:51,584 --> 03:44:52,518 that was previously a curb 6115 03:44:52,518 --> 03:44:54,918 outlet that was previously 6116 03:44:57,890 --> 03:44:58,725 mentioned. 6117 03:44:58,725 --> 03:44:59,425 >> The project approval already 6118 03:44:59,425 --> 03:45:01,825 carries a condition requiring 6119 03:45:03,129 --> 03:45:03,830 the stormwater system to be 6120 03:45:03,830 --> 03:45:06,230 designed by ministerial permit 6121 03:45:07,132 --> 03:45:07,534 to the satisfaction of the city 6122 03:45:07,534 --> 03:45:08,134 engineer. 6123 03:45:08,134 --> 03:45:10,534 You've heard today that 6124 03:45:12,371 --> 03:45:13,106 conditions were updating and 6125 03:45:13,106 --> 03:45:15,506 updated to specifically address 6126 03:45:17,210 --> 03:45:17,911 the items mentioned in 6127 03:45:17,911 --> 03:45:20,311 the appellants expert's memo 6128 03:45:22,449 --> 03:45:23,150 and we really just want to 6129 03:45:23,150 --> 03:45:26,150 thank staff for getting that 6130 03:45:26,453 --> 03:45:27,320 update done. 6131 03:45:27,320 --> 03:45:30,920 These are all items that really 6132 03:45:31,490 --> 03:45:32,910 reside in the ministerial 6133 03:45:32,910 --> 03:45:32,726 permits where technical 6134 03:45:32,726 --> 03:45:34,726 questions of calculations 6135 03:45:36,960 --> 03:45:36,863 should be answered. 6136 03:45:36,863 --> 03:45:39,263 >> Drainage has always moved 6137 03:45:41,100 --> 03:45:41,634 from East to west across 6138 03:45:41,634 --> 03:45:42,302 the site and now with this 6139 03:45:42,302 --> 03:45:44,702 project we finally have 6140 03:45:45,705 --> 03:45:48,705 the opportunity to improve it. 6141 03:45:50,409 --> 03:45:51,111 So council members we believe 6142 03:45:51,111 --> 03:45:51,844 the record before you clearly 6143 03:45:51,844 --> 03:45:54,844 supports the city's approval of 6144 03:45:54,914 --> 03:45:55,648 this project. 6145 03:45:55,648 --> 03:45:56,315 The stormwater system has been 6146 03:45:56,315 --> 03:45:59,315 designed to meet and exceed 6147 03:46:00,153 --> 03:46:00,887 applicable standards. 6148 03:46:00,887 --> 03:46:01,520 The community process has been 6149 03:46:01,520 --> 03:46:03,520 thorough and transparent. 6150 03:46:04,624 --> 03:46:05,325 Six families are ready to build 6151 03:46:05,325 --> 03:46:05,759 homes and become neighbors in 6152 03:46:05,759 --> 03:46:07,759 the community. 6153 03:46:08,862 --> 03:46:09,529 They clearly care about. 6154 03:46:09,529 --> 03:46:12,529 We respectfully ask that you 6155 03:46:13,600 --> 03:46:14,234 deny this appeal and affirm 6156 03:46:14,234 --> 03:46:14,834 the Planning Commission's 6157 03:46:14,834 --> 03:46:15,168 approval before our time 6158 03:46:15,168 --> 03:46:17,168 expires. 6159 03:46:18,504 --> 03:46:19,206 I would like to introduce one 6160 03:46:19,206 --> 03:46:19,940 of the six families whose home 6161 03:46:19,940 --> 03:46:22,940 depends on your decision today. 6162 03:46:23,543 --> 03:46:25,943 Natasha Alice, a future 6163 03:46:28,282 --> 03:46:28,748 homeowner at Cielo Mart. 6164 03:46:28,748 --> 03:46:29,215 >> Thank you. 6165 03:46:29,215 --> 03:46:31,215 Good afternoon. 6166 03:46:32,986 --> 03:46:33,687 PRESIDENT LaCava and everybody 6167 03:46:33,687 --> 03:46:34,187 else The council members thank 6168 03:46:34,187 --> 03:46:36,587 you for your time. 6169 03:46:38,492 --> 03:46:38,925 Like Brian mentioned my name is 6170 03:46:38,925 --> 03:46:40,925 Natasha Ellis. 6171 03:46:42,495 --> 03:46:42,996 I'm one of the six families I 6172 03:46:42,996 --> 03:46:44,996 currently occupy. 6173 03:46:46,932 --> 03:46:47,734 Our home is on the same street 6174 03:46:47,734 --> 03:46:48,505 as the development where we're 6175 03:46:48,505 --> 03:46:52,105 trying to build all of our 6176 03:46:52,372 --> 03:46:53,400 future homes. 6177 03:46:53,400 --> 03:46:55,440 We have been painstakingly 6178 03:46:56,900 --> 03:46:56,710 working on this project for 6179 03:46:56,710 --> 03:46:57,377 nearly four years and we just 6180 03:46:57,377 --> 03:47:00,977 are looking to build a home 6181 03:47:01,181 --> 03:47:01,515 where all of our children can 6182 03:47:01,515 --> 03:47:02,449 grow up. 6183 03:47:02,449 --> 03:47:05,285 We actually all our friends all 6184 03:47:05,285 --> 03:47:05,886 of us six families So I can 6185 03:47:05,886 --> 03:47:06,286 confirm that we are not 6186 03:47:06,286 --> 03:47:08,286 developers. 6187 03:47:09,690 --> 03:47:10,289 We're actually part of 6188 03:47:10,289 --> 03:47:13,289 the community and we are 6189 03:47:14,260 --> 03:47:14,761 families along with the five 6190 03:47:14,761 --> 03:47:15,429 other applicants. 6191 03:47:15,429 --> 03:47:16,960 We started this process with 6192 03:47:16,960 --> 03:47:18,650 the commitment that we would 6193 03:47:18,650 --> 03:47:18,632 work with and all city 6194 03:47:18,632 --> 03:47:19,266 requirements not push 6195 03:47:19,266 --> 03:47:19,967 the envelope, respect our 6196 03:47:19,967 --> 03:47:22,367 neighbors and the neighborhood 6197 03:47:23,169 --> 03:47:23,737 that we love along with 6198 03:47:23,737 --> 03:47:25,737 the city regulations. 6199 03:47:28,308 --> 03:47:28,809 That's exactly what we feel 6200 03:47:28,809 --> 03:47:29,476 that we have done. 6201 03:47:29,476 --> 03:47:31,876 We have incorporated input. 6202 03:47:32,379 --> 03:47:32,913 We heard along this journey 6203 03:47:32,913 --> 03:47:33,546 both from neighbors, 6204 03:47:33,546 --> 03:47:34,214 professional engineers and 6205 03:47:34,214 --> 03:47:37,214 technical experts as well as 6206 03:47:37,551 --> 03:47:38,218 city staff. 6207 03:47:38,218 --> 03:47:38,652 On behalf of all of 6208 03:47:38,652 --> 03:47:39,353 the families. 6209 03:47:39,353 --> 03:47:41,888 I would like to thank the city 6210 03:47:41,888 --> 03:47:42,489 staff for their detailed review 6211 03:47:42,489 --> 03:47:43,900 and we appreciate their 6212 03:47:43,900 --> 03:47:45,900 diligence and feedback. 6213 03:47:46,560 --> 03:47:47,261 All of that help earned 6214 03:47:47,261 --> 03:47:47,861 the support of our Communities 6215 03:47:47,861 --> 03:47:49,861 Planning Association and 6216 03:47:51,731 --> 03:47:52,666 the Planning Commission. 6217 03:47:52,666 --> 03:47:53,367 There is still a ways to go as 6218 03:47:53,367 --> 03:47:56,603 the next level of fine details 6219 03:47:56,603 --> 03:47:57,204 are part of the ministerial 6220 03:47:57,204 --> 03:47:57,938 process where city staff 6221 03:47:57,938 --> 03:48:00,938 experts continue to ensure that 6222 03:48:01,742 --> 03:48:02,376 our plans fully comply with 6223 03:48:02,376 --> 03:48:03,109 the technical and building 6224 03:48:03,109 --> 03:48:06,109 regulations and we can continue 6225 03:48:06,914 --> 03:48:07,548 to have dialog with our 6226 03:48:07,548 --> 03:48:08,282 neighbors along the way we 6227 03:48:08,282 --> 03:48:10,682 respect We respectfully request 6228 03:48:12,850 --> 03:48:12,686 that you deny the appeal so 6229 03:48:12,686 --> 03:48:13,420 that we can move forward 6230 03:48:13,420 --> 03:48:15,820 through the ministerial process 6231 03:48:16,389 --> 03:48:16,824 and eventually occupy our 6232 03:48:16,824 --> 03:48:17,524 family homes. 6233 03:48:17,524 --> 03:48:20,894 Thank you again to city staff 6234 03:48:20,894 --> 03:48:21,428 and thank you Council members 6235 03:48:21,428 --> 03:48:21,862 for your thoughtful 6236 03:48:21,862 --> 03:48:22,530 consideration. 6237 03:48:22,530 --> 03:48:25,432 And Chandra wanted to have a 6238 03:48:25,432 --> 03:48:25,900 few words. 6239 03:48:25,900 --> 03:48:26,433 Thank you. 6240 03:48:26,433 --> 03:48:26,800 Thank you, Natasha. 6241 03:48:26,800 --> 03:48:28,800 Thank you. 6242 03:48:30,271 --> 03:48:31,400 I just wanted to respectfully 6243 03:48:31,400 --> 03:48:35,204 add for the record that we have 6244 03:48:35,209 --> 03:48:35,910 been waiting since DECEMBER to 6245 03:48:35,910 --> 03:48:39,510 hear back from the cabinets on 6246 03:48:39,680 --> 03:48:40,280 our grading design and 6247 03:48:40,280 --> 03:48:41,148 stormwater and so forth. 6248 03:48:41,148 --> 03:48:44,748 We have been willing and able 6249 03:48:45,185 --> 03:48:46,520 to work with them. 6250 03:48:46,520 --> 03:48:49,457 Again, this is why we have our 6251 03:48:49,457 --> 03:48:50,224 civil engineer here today and 6252 03:48:50,224 --> 03:48:50,690 we only received their comments 6253 03:48:50,690 --> 03:48:53,900 a few days ago. 6254 03:48:54,895 --> 03:48:55,563 Again I want to hand it to 6255 03:48:55,563 --> 03:48:58,900 staff for working with us to 6256 03:48:58,900 --> 03:48:59,300 address even what they recently 6257 03:48:59,300 --> 03:49:00,234 brought up. 6258 03:49:00,234 --> 03:49:00,867 So just wanted to let you know 6259 03:49:00,867 --> 03:49:04,467 put that in the record and 6260 03:49:06,574 --> 03:49:07,108 thank you again for your time. 6261 03:49:07,108 --> 03:49:09,108 >> Good afternoon. 6262 03:49:12,513 --> 03:49:13,280 City Council members. 6263 03:49:13,280 --> 03:49:13,848 My name is Lee Anderson of 6264 03:49:13,848 --> 03:49:14,482 Honest and Linen Corn. 6265 03:49:14,482 --> 03:49:16,449 I'm the attorney for 6266 03:49:16,449 --> 03:49:17,518 the applicant. 6267 03:49:17,518 --> 03:49:21,220 I first of all to reiterate 6268 03:49:21,220 --> 03:49:21,422 what MS.. 6269 03:49:21,422 --> 03:49:22,560 Slaven said. 6270 03:49:22,560 --> 03:49:24,456 We've been asking for 6271 03:49:26,493 --> 03:49:27,161 the comments of the civil 6272 03:49:27,161 --> 03:49:29,561 engineer for the Cavanaugh's 6273 03:49:31,365 --> 03:49:32,660 actually for over a year and we 6274 03:49:32,660 --> 03:49:35,666 just barely got them less than 6275 03:49:36,103 --> 03:49:36,971 a week ago. 6276 03:49:36,971 --> 03:49:40,700 >> So you know the request to 6277 03:49:40,700 --> 03:49:40,741 continue this hearing to to 6278 03:49:40,741 --> 03:49:41,442 consider those comments it just 6279 03:49:41,442 --> 03:49:44,442 seems like a predicament that 6280 03:49:45,146 --> 03:49:48,746 they put themselves in and they 6281 03:49:49,116 --> 03:49:49,850 shouldn't be able to delay us 6282 03:49:49,850 --> 03:49:52,850 through those kinds of tactics. 6283 03:49:54,321 --> 03:49:54,989 I also want to just very 6284 03:49:54,989 --> 03:49:55,423 quickly address the property 6285 03:49:55,423 --> 03:49:57,423 rights issue. 6286 03:49:59,661 --> 03:50:02,697 There was a deed granted on MAY 6287 03:50:02,697 --> 03:50:04,697 13th, 1949 that granted 6288 03:50:07,902 --> 03:50:08,536 the parcel that is now called q 6289 03:50:08,536 --> 03:50:11,706 Frisco to two of the five 6290 03:50:11,706 --> 03:50:12,506 adjacent property owners which 6291 03:50:12,506 --> 03:50:14,906 include the predecessor to 6292 03:50:16,844 --> 03:50:17,511 the applicant and that property 6293 03:50:17,511 --> 03:50:20,511 was granted quote subject to 6294 03:50:21,883 --> 03:50:22,750 the right of each and every 6295 03:50:22,750 --> 03:50:26,350 grantee in this deed and their 6296 03:50:26,988 --> 03:50:27,655 successors and assigns. 6297 03:50:27,655 --> 03:50:30,655 And then skipping ahead a 6298 03:50:31,910 --> 03:50:31,860 little bit to use that property 6299 03:50:31,860 --> 03:50:32,593 for the installation repair and 6300 03:50:32,593 --> 03:50:34,993 replacement of public utilities 6301 03:50:36,965 --> 03:50:37,765 and then it goes on to say said 6302 03:50:37,765 --> 03:50:41,690 rights of said grantees are for 6303 03:50:41,690 --> 03:50:41,736 the benefit of and are 6304 03:50:41,736 --> 03:50:44,136 pertinent to the respective 6305 03:50:45,940 --> 03:50:46,640 parcels of land now owned by 6306 03:50:46,640 --> 03:50:47,342 said grantees and immediately 6307 03:50:47,342 --> 03:50:49,742 adjoining the above described 6308 03:50:51,120 --> 03:50:51,679 strip strip of land. 6309 03:50:51,679 --> 03:50:52,447 So the these are rights that 6310 03:50:52,447 --> 03:50:55,447 were granted to our clients 6311 03:50:56,451 --> 03:50:57,218 predecessor or it was intended 6312 03:50:57,218 --> 03:51:00,818 to be a private street for 6313 03:51:00,822 --> 03:51:01,389 ingress and egress and also for 6314 03:51:01,389 --> 03:51:03,789 utilities to run under 6315 03:51:05,930 --> 03:51:05,793 the street and it gave and 6316 03:51:05,793 --> 03:51:08,793 that's an easement whether it 6317 03:51:09,831 --> 03:51:10,632 uses the term easement or not. 6318 03:51:10,632 --> 03:51:11,399 But regardless the document is 6319 03:51:11,399 --> 03:51:14,501 very clear that it gives each 6320 03:51:14,501 --> 03:51:16,901 of the adjacent parcels 6321 03:51:18,940 --> 03:51:19,641 the right to tap into public 6322 03:51:19,641 --> 03:51:20,341 utilities through that street. 6323 03:51:20,341 --> 03:51:23,912 I don't think they're going to 6324 03:51:23,912 --> 03:51:24,611 be any question about that. 6325 03:51:24,611 --> 03:51:25,346 The document was reviewed by 6326 03:51:25,346 --> 03:51:27,549 not only staff but also that 6327 03:51:27,549 --> 03:51:30,549 the city attorney's office and 6328 03:51:32,721 --> 03:51:33,688 found sufficient. 6329 03:51:33,688 --> 03:51:36,688 You know, it's really a 6330 03:51:37,192 --> 03:51:37,826 specious argument that 6331 03:51:37,826 --> 03:51:38,526 the opponents have raised. 6332 03:51:38,526 --> 03:51:42,430 But to the extent it does have 6333 03:51:42,430 --> 03:51:43,198 any merit, that's a private 6334 03:51:43,198 --> 03:51:47,268 matter As a staff said in his 6335 03:51:47,268 --> 03:51:48,300 presentation with that we're 6336 03:51:48,300 --> 03:51:48,703 available for any questions I'm 6337 03:51:48,703 --> 03:51:51,673 not going to address point by 6338 03:51:51,673 --> 03:51:52,730 point everything that's been 6339 03:51:52,730 --> 03:51:52,773 brought out. 6340 03:51:52,773 --> 03:51:53,642 There were a lot of things 6341 03:51:53,642 --> 03:51:57,242 brought up that are outside far 6342 03:51:57,245 --> 03:51:57,846 outside any of the issues that 6343 03:51:57,846 --> 03:51:58,246 were properly raised in 6344 03:51:58,246 --> 03:52:00,246 the appeal. 6345 03:52:01,716 --> 03:52:02,284 Questions about design and 6346 03:52:02,284 --> 03:52:02,850 questions about noise. 6347 03:52:02,850 --> 03:52:05,250 Those kinds of things. 6348 03:52:06,388 --> 03:52:07,220 But we're happy to answer 6349 03:52:07,220 --> 03:52:07,655 questions either myself or 6350 03:52:07,655 --> 03:52:10,550 the appropriate member of 6351 03:52:11,726 --> 03:52:12,360 the team if there are questions 6352 03:52:12,360 --> 03:52:14,228 and further discussion is 6353 03:52:14,228 --> 03:52:17,828 desired on any of those points. 6354 03:52:19,401 --> 03:52:19,934 >> Thank you. 6355 03:52:19,934 --> 03:52:21,934 >> All right. 6356 03:52:24,673 --> 03:52:25,400 So that closes the applicant to 6357 03:52:25,400 --> 03:52:25,574 the great. 6358 03:52:25,574 --> 03:52:26,274 I have questions for 6359 03:52:26,274 --> 03:52:26,774 the applicant or the appellant 6360 03:52:26,774 --> 03:52:28,774 or my colleagues. 6361 03:52:31,946 --> 03:52:32,813 Do you can be called up. 6362 03:52:32,813 --> 03:52:36,413 So this is in district one. 6363 03:52:37,352 --> 03:52:40,952 So as we traditionally do I'll 6364 03:52:41,323 --> 03:52:42,124 take the lead on this and I'm 6365 03:52:42,124 --> 03:52:43,158 going to ask my colleagues to 6366 03:52:43,158 --> 03:52:46,428 bear with me on this as we kind 6367 03:52:46,428 --> 03:52:47,329 of delve into the issues. 6368 03:52:47,329 --> 03:52:51,529 When I was a baby engineer, my 6369 03:52:51,967 --> 03:52:52,668 boss at that time told me make 6370 03:52:52,668 --> 03:52:55,604 it easy for the decision maker 6371 03:52:55,604 --> 03:52:56,238 in a way I can successfully say 6372 03:52:56,238 --> 03:52:56,538 that neither side has done 6373 03:52:56,538 --> 03:52:58,538 that. 6374 03:53:00,909 --> 03:53:01,443 So I've taken a lot of notes 6375 03:53:01,443 --> 03:53:01,978 during the course of 6376 03:53:01,978 --> 03:53:04,378 the testimony by all 6377 03:53:05,247 --> 03:53:06,114 the parties. 6378 03:53:06,114 --> 03:53:06,782 So when you see me scrambling 6379 03:53:06,782 --> 03:53:09,782 between my computer and my 6380 03:53:10,452 --> 03:53:10,719 written notes you'll understand 6381 03:53:10,719 --> 03:53:11,553 why. 6382 03:53:11,553 --> 03:53:12,321 So I'm going to start out with 6383 03:53:12,321 --> 03:53:14,890 the typical preamble as I do 6384 03:53:14,890 --> 03:53:15,657 when I hear an appeal. 6385 03:53:15,657 --> 03:53:19,257 I want to thank city staff. 6386 03:53:19,628 --> 03:53:20,362 I want to thank the appellant. 6387 03:53:20,362 --> 03:53:20,963 I want to thank the applicant 6388 03:53:20,963 --> 03:53:21,663 for your presentations. 6389 03:53:21,663 --> 03:53:24,566 I want to thank those who took 6390 03:53:24,566 --> 03:53:25,234 the time to come down or spoke 6391 03:53:25,234 --> 03:53:25,567 online or submitted comments 6392 03:53:25,567 --> 03:53:27,567 online. 6393 03:53:29,704 --> 03:53:30,405 I've reviewed the material 6394 03:53:30,405 --> 03:53:30,972 attached to the docket as well 6395 03:53:30,972 --> 03:53:31,473 as the public comments 6396 03:53:31,473 --> 03:53:33,473 submitted online. 6397 03:53:34,776 --> 03:53:35,410 Listen to the presentation sent 6398 03:53:35,410 --> 03:53:36,177 by staff by appellant, by 6399 03:53:36,177 --> 03:53:39,177 the applicant and comments by 6400 03:53:39,681 --> 03:53:40,482 the public. 6401 03:53:40,482 --> 03:53:41,316 i'm going to state the obvious 6402 03:53:41,316 --> 03:53:44,819 I'm not going to make a motion 6403 03:53:44,819 --> 03:53:45,621 for continuance. 6404 03:53:45,621 --> 03:53:46,321 I don't understand why people 6405 03:53:46,321 --> 03:53:46,922 didn't get that when we didn't 6406 03:53:46,922 --> 03:53:50,522 do that at the get go. 6407 03:53:52,761 --> 03:53:53,107 But in case there was any doubt 6408 03:53:53,107 --> 03:53:53,862 . 6409 03:53:53,862 --> 03:53:57,320 So here's the kind of things 6410 03:53:57,320 --> 03:53:57,732 that have been raised that I 6411 03:53:57,732 --> 03:53:58,501 don't find relevant to 6412 03:53:58,501 --> 03:54:02,300 the decision in front of us 6413 03:54:02,300 --> 03:54:02,804 today. 6414 03:54:02,804 --> 03:54:03,138 One of them is the 1949 6415 03:54:03,138 --> 03:54:05,138 granted. 6416 03:54:06,774 --> 03:54:07,409 Now staff has their 6417 03:54:07,409 --> 03:54:09,409 interpretation about that. 6418 03:54:12,181 --> 03:54:12,915 >> I believe that the grant 6419 03:54:12,915 --> 03:54:13,582 deed is a matter between 6420 03:54:13,582 --> 03:54:14,116 the two parties to arbitrate 6421 03:54:14,116 --> 03:54:16,116 among themselves in 6422 03:54:16,885 --> 03:54:18,885 the affected parties 6423 03:54:21,423 --> 03:54:22,224 the whether the development has 6424 03:54:22,224 --> 03:54:22,491 the right to enter into that or 6425 03:54:22,491 --> 03:54:23,192 not. 6426 03:54:23,192 --> 03:54:23,559 I don't think relevant in my 6427 03:54:23,559 --> 03:54:25,559 decision. 6428 03:54:26,328 --> 03:54:29,298 That is the risk that 6429 03:54:29,298 --> 03:54:32,898 the applicant is taking in this 6430 03:54:34,103 --> 03:54:34,837 conversation. 6431 03:54:34,837 --> 03:54:38,437 The other element that I feel 6432 03:54:39,308 --> 03:54:39,742 kind of compelled to talk about 6433 03:54:39,742 --> 03:54:41,742 bear with me. 6434 03:54:44,313 --> 03:54:44,879 Like I said, I'm bouncing a 6435 03:54:44,879 --> 03:54:47,279 little bit between all 6436 03:54:48,317 --> 03:54:49,180 the comments things that okay 6437 03:54:49,180 --> 03:54:51,418 staff included the applicant's 6438 03:54:53,355 --> 03:54:53,655 rendering and its presentation 6439 03:54:53,655 --> 03:54:54,523 . 6440 03:54:54,523 --> 03:54:58,270 I find the rubber not a true 6441 03:54:58,270 --> 03:54:58,527 representation of 6442 03:54:58,527 --> 03:54:59,228 the neighborhood. 6443 03:54:59,228 --> 03:55:02,228 The assurance community has a 6444 03:55:02,598 --> 03:55:03,265 long history with project 6445 03:55:03,265 --> 03:55:03,799 renderings given its unique 6446 03:55:03,799 --> 03:55:04,500 residential zoning. 6447 03:55:04,500 --> 03:55:07,500 Sometimes it makes the project 6448 03:55:07,703 --> 03:55:08,104 look larger, look smaller, 6449 03:55:08,104 --> 03:55:08,737 blending in. 6450 03:55:08,737 --> 03:55:11,607 And for the record I'm not 6451 03:55:11,607 --> 03:55:12,341 relying on the rendering and my 6452 03:55:12,341 --> 03:55:13,750 review of the project documents 6453 03:55:13,750 --> 03:55:16,675 or as part of this afternoon's 6454 03:55:17,147 --> 03:55:18,140 discussion. 6455 03:55:18,140 --> 03:55:18,781 >> a lot of reasons sort of 6456 03:55:18,781 --> 03:55:21,781 rendering said okay one thing 6457 03:55:21,817 --> 03:55:22,518 that the applicant raised and 6458 03:55:22,518 --> 03:55:24,918 actually the applicant raised 6459 03:55:25,921 --> 03:55:26,791 that I kind of had a question 6460 03:55:26,791 --> 03:55:29,791 about this is for staff 6461 03:55:30,860 --> 03:55:31,394 the ownership disclosure Who 6462 03:55:31,394 --> 03:55:32,280 owns this property? 6463 03:55:32,280 --> 03:55:32,895 I have to make a decision 6464 03:55:32,895 --> 03:55:36,331 whether I have a conflict of 6465 03:55:36,331 --> 03:55:37,000 interest, whether anybody has 6466 03:55:37,000 --> 03:55:39,734 given me a campaign donation 6467 03:55:39,734 --> 03:55:40,169 and my 2024 campaign who owns 6468 03:55:40,169 --> 03:55:42,169 the property? 6469 03:55:44,307 --> 03:55:44,907 >> Who are the legal owners 6470 03:55:44,907 --> 03:55:45,374 With all due respect. 6471 03:55:45,374 --> 03:55:47,374 Yes, Thank you. 6472 03:55:49,245 --> 03:55:53,445 I need a few minutes to look 6473 03:55:53,983 --> 03:55:54,283 for the application but I have 6474 03:55:54,283 --> 03:55:54,817 that. 6475 03:55:54,817 --> 03:55:56,817 Oh, I'm sorry. 6476 03:55:58,870 --> 03:55:58,388 I have the permit to draft here 6477 03:55:58,388 --> 03:56:00,388 . 6478 03:56:07,964 --> 03:56:08,730 >> So it's Salem or La Hoya. 6479 03:56:08,730 --> 03:56:11,130 >> Limited Liability company is 6480 03:56:12,340 --> 03:56:12,435 the owner of record. 6481 03:56:12,435 --> 03:56:13,302 >> Okay. 6482 03:56:13,302 --> 03:56:16,302 I'm used to disclosure of 6483 03:56:17,172 --> 03:56:20,172 individuals that are part of 6484 03:56:21,344 --> 03:56:22,111 that ownership and I'm hearing 6485 03:56:22,111 --> 03:56:25,711 that there are six or maybe 6486 03:56:26,716 --> 03:56:27,483 seven owners. 6487 03:56:27,483 --> 03:56:30,887 One of them is here today. 6488 03:56:30,887 --> 03:56:31,421 I have here Scott Sinnott as 6489 03:56:31,421 --> 03:56:31,754 the owner committee. 6490 03:56:31,754 --> 03:56:33,754 >> Okay. 6491 03:56:35,591 --> 03:56:36,125 I came in here thinking that he 6492 03:56:36,125 --> 03:56:38,525 was the sole owner. 6493 03:56:44,634 --> 03:56:45,602 He's not the sole owner Before 6494 03:56:45,602 --> 03:56:46,402 this is over can you give me a 6495 03:56:46,402 --> 03:56:50,440 list to make sure that I don't 6496 03:56:50,440 --> 03:56:51,107 have a conflict? 6497 03:56:51,107 --> 03:56:51,574 Council Member My name is 6498 03:56:51,574 --> 03:56:53,574 Christian Niles. 6499 03:56:55,478 --> 03:56:56,346 I am one of the owners of out 6500 03:56:56,346 --> 03:56:59,946 of Lot three on lot on 6501 03:57:00,116 --> 03:57:00,784 the proposed lot two We have 6502 03:57:00,784 --> 03:57:04,384 scouts in it on the proposed 6503 03:57:04,621 --> 03:57:05,255 lot one we have Adrian Diaz on 6504 03:57:05,255 --> 03:57:08,255 the proposed lot for Webb 6505 03:57:10,660 --> 03:57:11,360 Barbara Santiago Sula, Capell 6506 03:57:11,360 --> 03:57:14,397 and Lot five We have Charlie 6507 03:57:14,397 --> 03:57:15,640 and Charlie and Race and a lot 6508 03:57:15,640 --> 03:57:15,365 six We had David and Natalia 6509 03:57:15,365 --> 03:57:17,365 Bond. 6510 03:57:18,968 --> 03:57:19,435 >> Okay thank you for 6511 03:57:19,435 --> 03:57:20,135 disclosing that. 6512 03:57:20,135 --> 03:57:20,436 I don't recognize any of those 6513 03:57:20,436 --> 03:57:21,137 names. 6514 03:57:21,137 --> 03:57:23,773 I feel confident that I don't 6515 03:57:23,773 --> 03:57:24,374 have a conflict or that none of 6516 03:57:24,374 --> 03:57:27,374 them gave me a campaign 6517 03:57:28,410 --> 03:57:29,212 contribution as far as I can 6518 03:57:29,212 --> 03:57:32,212 remember back in 2024 I wasn't 6519 03:57:37,954 --> 03:57:41,554 so hard wasn't the okay those 6520 03:57:42,192 --> 03:57:44,592 were the harder questions. 6521 03:57:46,796 --> 03:57:47,731 Okay. 6522 03:57:47,731 --> 03:57:51,331 So as I read through all 6523 03:57:54,710 --> 03:57:54,838 the material over this weekend 6524 03:57:54,838 --> 03:57:55,538 ,I will say there's been 6525 03:57:55,538 --> 03:57:57,938 important issues raised by 6526 03:57:59,676 --> 03:58:00,377 the appellant and I'm also 6527 03:58:00,377 --> 03:58:01,440 encouraged that the appellant 6528 03:58:01,440 --> 03:58:03,444 has narrowly targeted their 6529 03:58:03,847 --> 03:58:04,714 focus especially in their 6530 03:58:04,714 --> 03:58:05,348 letter of MAY 14th And while 6531 03:58:05,348 --> 03:58:07,748 the language he appellant 6532 03:58:09,586 --> 03:58:10,153 offered is not necessarily 6533 03:58:10,153 --> 03:58:10,853 appropriate for permit 6534 03:58:10,853 --> 03:58:11,555 conditions, I thought the tone 6535 03:58:11,555 --> 03:58:14,657 of the scope resonate with me 6536 03:58:14,657 --> 03:58:15,425 So I don't know about your 6537 03:58:15,425 --> 03:58:17,527 consultants but I was able to 6538 03:58:17,527 --> 03:58:18,161 read the thing in one day and 6539 03:58:18,161 --> 03:58:18,828 figure out what they were 6540 03:58:18,828 --> 03:58:21,228 talking about and understood 6541 03:58:22,666 --> 03:58:23,634 the issues that were at risk. 6542 03:58:23,634 --> 03:58:27,234 >> So I worked Some days maybe 6543 03:58:27,504 --> 03:58:28,338 your consultants don't. 6544 03:58:28,338 --> 03:58:31,338 I was also equally encouraged 6545 03:58:32,609 --> 03:58:33,175 by the applicant's response in 6546 03:58:33,175 --> 03:58:33,744 an undated response to 6547 03:58:33,744 --> 03:58:36,744 the appeal as well as 6548 03:58:37,948 --> 03:58:38,682 information that was in their 6549 03:58:38,682 --> 03:58:41,852 slide deck which is attached to 6550 03:58:41,852 --> 03:58:42,185 that but was not actually used 6551 03:58:42,185 --> 03:58:42,953 . 6552 03:58:42,953 --> 03:58:46,923 So one of the questions I want 6553 03:58:46,923 --> 03:58:47,591 to ask to the applicant one of 6554 03:58:47,591 --> 03:58:50,927 the things that showed up in 6555 03:58:50,927 --> 03:58:51,628 your slide deck on Slide six 6556 03:58:51,628 --> 03:58:52,294 was indicating that you would 6557 03:58:52,294 --> 03:58:54,694 be securing letters of 6558 03:58:56,933 --> 03:58:59,333 permission from the property 6559 03:59:00,971 --> 03:59:01,738 owners along first going out. 6560 03:59:01,738 --> 03:59:05,338 That is an important change to 6561 03:59:10,113 --> 03:59:10,981 me is that but we have property 6562 03:59:10,981 --> 03:59:14,581 rights to That's not what I'm 6563 03:59:15,986 --> 03:59:18,986 asking sir in your presentation 6564 03:59:19,890 --> 03:59:20,557 Slide six indicate that you 6565 03:59:20,557 --> 03:59:21,224 would be securing letters of 6566 03:59:21,224 --> 03:59:24,224 permission by the people who 6567 03:59:26,797 --> 03:59:27,297 live along that street. 6568 03:59:27,297 --> 03:59:29,297 Yes. 6569 03:59:31,801 --> 03:59:32,536 Slide six was prepared by 6570 03:59:32,536 --> 03:59:32,836 the appellant is what I'm being 6571 03:59:32,836 --> 03:59:34,836 told. 6572 03:59:36,674 --> 03:59:40,874 Yeah we didn't have a six slide 6573 03:59:44,314 --> 03:59:44,655 so not you didn't show on today 6574 03:59:44,655 --> 03:59:45,515 . 6575 03:59:45,515 --> 03:59:49,115 Can you bring up the PowerPoint 6576 03:59:50,287 --> 03:59:51,200 for us The we are the applicant 6577 03:59:51,200 --> 03:59:51,722 PowerPoint so I can that way I 6578 03:59:51,722 --> 03:59:54,910 can better understand which 6579 03:59:54,910 --> 03:59:56,359 slide you're referring to and 6580 03:59:56,359 --> 03:59:59,959 then I'm happy to address it 6581 04:00:11,474 --> 04:00:15,740 and you help them go back. 6582 04:00:19,183 --> 04:00:19,616 One of you almost had it There 6583 04:00:19,616 --> 04:00:21,616 it is. 6584 04:00:24,210 --> 04:00:24,554 This slide was not part of our 6585 04:00:24,554 --> 04:00:25,323 formal presentation. 6586 04:00:25,323 --> 04:00:28,625 We had it as a back up slide 6587 04:00:28,625 --> 04:00:29,293 Should any questions arise. 6588 04:00:29,293 --> 04:00:32,293 Okay it's back up material 6589 04:00:33,363 --> 04:00:33,965 attached to this item prepared 6590 04:00:33,965 --> 04:00:34,297 now acknowledged by you. 6591 04:00:34,297 --> 04:00:36,297 Correct. 6592 04:00:38,402 --> 04:00:39,270 So what am I to make of this 6593 04:00:39,270 --> 04:00:39,669 Because this is this is kind of 6594 04:00:39,669 --> 04:00:41,669 a big deal. 6595 04:00:43,741 --> 04:00:44,307 >> It is And can you please 6596 04:00:44,307 --> 04:00:46,307 repeat your question? 6597 04:00:47,511 --> 04:00:48,112 >> So this slide as part of 6598 04:00:48,112 --> 04:00:48,845 the slide deck that you 6599 04:00:48,845 --> 04:00:52,445 submitted to the city as backup 6600 04:00:52,783 --> 04:00:53,550 as material for this item shows 6601 04:00:53,550 --> 04:00:57,150 that for each of the lots 6602 04:00:57,888 --> 04:00:59,990 adjoining you're indicating an 6603 04:00:59,990 --> 04:01:02,990 intent to secure letters of 6604 04:01:05,362 --> 04:01:06,290 permission. 6605 04:01:06,290 --> 04:01:06,464 PRESIDENT LaCava That that's 6606 04:01:06,464 --> 04:01:08,464 not the case. 6607 04:01:10,835 --> 04:01:11,535 We have an easement over okay 6608 04:01:11,535 --> 04:01:14,535 I'm not asking that question. 6609 04:01:15,305 --> 04:01:15,940 So so the easement allows us to 6610 04:01:15,940 --> 04:01:16,640 proceed without occasion. 6611 04:01:16,640 --> 04:01:17,410 Again, that's not the question 6612 04:01:17,410 --> 04:01:19,410 I'm asking. 6613 04:01:19,610 --> 04:01:20,577 I'm asking about you submitted 6614 04:01:20,577 --> 04:01:24,777 this slide for which I was very 6615 04:01:25,216 --> 04:01:25,916 excited about because that 6616 04:01:25,916 --> 04:01:29,516 would show that there was some 6617 04:01:29,587 --> 04:01:30,354 meeting of the minds. 6618 04:01:30,354 --> 04:01:33,354 >> So you're telling me that 6619 04:01:33,657 --> 04:01:34,358 that was a false smell At 6620 04:01:34,358 --> 04:01:37,958 the moment we're going to have 6621 04:01:39,263 --> 04:01:39,896 our civil engineer Dan Valdes 6622 04:01:39,896 --> 04:01:40,231 come speak to this slide. 6623 04:01:40,231 --> 04:01:40,531 >> Okay. 6624 04:01:40,531 --> 04:01:42,531 Hello. 6625 04:01:44,735 --> 04:01:45,402 Thank you, Daniel Valdez, 6626 04:01:45,402 --> 04:01:47,402 coffee engineering engineer. 6627 04:01:48,639 --> 04:01:49,373 I've worked for the project. 6628 04:01:49,373 --> 04:01:50,600 A little bit of background 6629 04:01:50,600 --> 04:01:52,406 history behind this slide. 6630 04:01:53,110 --> 04:01:53,811 The intention of this slide 6631 04:01:53,811 --> 04:01:54,311 wasn't to show letters of 6632 04:01:54,311 --> 04:01:56,311 permission issues. 6633 04:01:58,448 --> 04:01:59,217 It was intended to show 6634 04:01:59,217 --> 04:02:02,920 the plan along here First go to 6635 04:02:02,920 --> 04:02:06,520 the call outs for letters of 6636 04:02:07,258 --> 04:02:07,958 permission which have blanks 6637 04:02:07,958 --> 04:02:08,726 They you know, don't reflect 6638 04:02:08,726 --> 04:02:11,726 any letters of commission that 6639 04:02:12,430 --> 04:02:13,364 have actually been obtained. 6640 04:02:13,364 --> 04:02:16,964 Yeah, they were added to this 6641 04:02:17,350 --> 04:02:17,702 sheet was a part of 6642 04:02:17,702 --> 04:02:20,102 the ministerial grading plan 6643 04:02:22,600 --> 04:02:22,707 that has not yet been approved. 6644 04:02:22,707 --> 04:02:25,707 It's currently in review with 6645 04:02:26,544 --> 04:02:27,278 the city engineering staff. 6646 04:02:27,278 --> 04:02:28,120 The addition of those call outs 6647 04:02:28,120 --> 04:02:31,416 was in response to a comment 6648 04:02:31,416 --> 04:02:32,116 that we needed to get letters 6649 04:02:32,116 --> 04:02:35,519 of permission so it was added 6650 04:02:35,519 --> 04:02:36,453 to a to address a comment. 6651 04:02:36,453 --> 04:02:39,453 But as the review process 6652 04:02:40,991 --> 04:02:41,726 proceeded our attorney 6653 04:02:41,726 --> 04:02:45,263 determined that we did not need 6654 04:02:45,263 --> 04:02:46,640 to get letters of permission So 6655 04:02:46,640 --> 04:02:49,664 the final plans will not have 6656 04:02:52,170 --> 04:02:52,971 that call out. 6657 04:02:52,971 --> 04:02:53,671 You realize how difficult that 6658 04:02:53,671 --> 04:02:54,371 makes it for me because now I 6659 04:02:54,371 --> 04:02:56,771 begin to question everything 6660 04:02:57,750 --> 04:02:58,760 you've put out there, right? 6661 04:02:58,760 --> 04:03:01,676 This is part of the ministerial 6662 04:03:01,980 --> 04:03:02,547 set the ministerial set to get 6663 04:03:02,547 --> 04:03:02,947 secure grading plans. 6664 04:03:02,947 --> 04:03:04,947 >> Correct. 6665 04:03:06,651 --> 04:03:07,285 But until the discretionary 6666 04:03:07,285 --> 04:03:07,919 approval comes through no 6667 04:03:07,919 --> 04:03:08,286 ministerial plans will be 6668 04:03:08,286 --> 04:03:10,286 approved. 6669 04:03:12,290 --> 04:03:12,790 No, I understand that but it's 6670 04:03:12,790 --> 04:03:13,324 a message to me. 6671 04:03:13,324 --> 04:03:15,324 I understand that. 6672 04:03:17,228 --> 04:03:17,895 I understand the impression 6673 04:03:17,895 --> 04:03:18,596 that you MAY have gotten you 6674 04:03:18,596 --> 04:03:19,297 don't have up here to provide 6675 04:03:19,297 --> 04:03:22,132 some clarification on what it 6676 04:03:22,132 --> 04:03:22,433 does You're looking at it. 6677 04:03:22,433 --> 04:03:23,268 Yeah. 6678 04:03:23,268 --> 04:03:25,837 So I'm a civil engineer so I 6679 04:03:25,837 --> 04:03:26,705 know exactly what I'm looking 6680 04:03:26,705 --> 04:03:27,372 at But so this is a false 6681 04:03:27,372 --> 04:03:29,772 representation of what your 6682 04:03:30,275 --> 04:03:31,420 intention is going forward. 6683 04:03:31,420 --> 04:03:33,442 It's not a current 6684 04:03:35,647 --> 04:03:37,647 representation. 6685 04:03:40,251 --> 04:03:40,852 I won't argue the words. 6686 04:03:40,852 --> 04:03:41,686 >> That's too bad. 6687 04:03:41,686 --> 04:03:44,923 I thought that was a pretty big 6688 04:03:44,923 --> 04:03:46,924 step forward So let me see if 6689 04:03:46,924 --> 04:03:49,924 there's anything else that we 6690 04:03:52,264 --> 04:03:53,231 can dance around. 6691 04:03:53,231 --> 04:03:57,402 So one of the things that as I 6692 04:03:57,402 --> 04:03:59,802 mentioned was that especially 6693 04:04:02,941 --> 04:04:03,708 for my colleagues into staff 6694 04:04:03,708 --> 04:04:04,409 that I struggle with it like 6695 04:04:04,409 --> 04:04:04,943 you said, I think some of 6696 04:04:04,943 --> 04:04:06,812 the issues raised by 6697 04:04:06,812 --> 04:04:07,612 the appellant actually were on 6698 04:04:07,612 --> 04:04:11,212 point And the challenge is that 6699 04:04:11,750 --> 04:04:12,450 it's somewhat ironically it is 6700 04:04:12,450 --> 04:04:13,510 that during the discretionary 6701 04:04:13,510 --> 04:04:15,510 review process neighbors 6702 04:04:17,220 --> 04:04:17,489 actually have access to more 6703 04:04:17,489 --> 04:04:19,489 information than 6704 04:04:21,426 --> 04:04:22,930 the ministerial process When if 6705 04:04:22,930 --> 04:04:22,794 this project were to be 6706 04:04:22,794 --> 04:04:25,794 approved we'd be going through 6707 04:04:26,665 --> 04:04:27,265 grading construction or 6708 04:04:27,265 --> 04:04:28,000 building permits because 6709 04:04:28,000 --> 04:04:31,200 everything kind of closes in at 6710 04:04:31,200 --> 04:04:31,736 that time. 6711 04:04:31,736 --> 04:04:32,736 So that presented a little bit 6712 04:04:32,736 --> 04:04:35,941 of a quandary to me because I 6713 04:04:35,941 --> 04:04:36,541 think the issues raised that 6714 04:04:36,541 --> 04:04:37,242 you MAY in good faith 6715 04:04:37,242 --> 04:04:39,242 understand everything they're 6716 04:04:41,246 --> 04:04:41,913 saying and actually actually 6717 04:04:41,913 --> 04:04:44,313 comply with everything that 6718 04:04:45,384 --> 04:04:46,840 they're asking for which is 6719 04:04:46,840 --> 04:04:46,684 actually just convince us that 6720 04:04:46,684 --> 04:04:49,684 the design that you have 6721 04:04:50,555 --> 04:04:54,155 actually works which is I think 6722 04:04:55,360 --> 04:04:55,693 quite a gross simplification of 6723 04:04:55,693 --> 04:04:56,428 course. 6724 04:04:56,428 --> 04:04:57,940 But I think at the end of 6725 04:04:57,940 --> 04:04:57,763 the day that's what they're 6726 04:04:57,763 --> 04:05:00,565 saying Now some of the other 6727 04:05:00,565 --> 04:05:01,332 folks that spoke have bigger 6728 04:05:01,332 --> 04:05:04,932 issues with the project but I 6729 04:05:05,337 --> 04:05:06,400 think the appellant really 6730 04:05:06,400 --> 04:05:06,671 narrowed down just saying we 6731 04:05:06,671 --> 04:05:09,671 can't figure out your plan. 6732 04:05:10,242 --> 04:05:13,242 The plan changing quite evident 6733 04:05:14,512 --> 04:05:15,213 from the exchange We just had 6734 04:05:15,213 --> 04:05:15,881 And so they're getting kind of 6735 04:05:15,881 --> 04:05:18,281 nervous and I've done 6736 04:05:19,384 --> 04:05:20,252 discretionary permits where you 6737 04:05:20,252 --> 04:05:23,852 have not done everything to a 6738 04:05:23,956 --> 04:05:24,623 position that you do during 6739 04:05:24,623 --> 04:05:24,956 construction documents going 6740 04:05:24,956 --> 04:05:26,956 forward. 6741 04:05:28,994 --> 04:05:32,594 So I started thinking of a 6742 04:05:32,965 --> 04:05:33,398 number of ideas about how to 6743 04:05:33,398 --> 04:05:34,199 address that. 6744 04:05:34,199 --> 04:05:36,599 I exchanged some conversations 6745 04:05:38,504 --> 04:05:39,171 with staff and with the city 6746 04:05:39,171 --> 04:05:41,571 attorney's office because I 6747 04:05:43,809 --> 04:05:44,109 believe in having my ideas 6748 04:05:44,109 --> 04:05:44,877 valid. 6749 04:05:44,877 --> 04:05:47,877 And so while I am 6750 04:05:48,847 --> 04:05:49,515 extraordinarily frustrated by 6751 04:05:49,515 --> 04:05:51,915 the conversations that we've 6752 04:05:53,418 --> 04:05:54,120 had today and in this 6753 04:05:54,120 --> 04:05:54,987 particular hearing at the end 6754 04:05:54,987 --> 04:05:59,224 of the day this is not about my 6755 04:05:59,224 --> 04:05:59,958 frustration and 6756 04:05:59,958 --> 04:06:02,358 misrepresentations a slight but 6757 04:06:03,796 --> 04:06:04,630 whether at the end of the day 6758 04:06:04,630 --> 04:06:05,296 that I can make the findings or 6759 04:06:05,296 --> 04:06:08,296 not worth what the project 6760 04:06:09,368 --> 04:06:12,968 actually is and I was very 6761 04:06:14,173 --> 04:06:14,873 close to it no but working with 6762 04:06:14,873 --> 04:06:17,873 staff and the city attorney's 6763 04:06:21,647 --> 04:06:22,414 office I found that with their 6764 04:06:22,414 --> 04:06:24,814 very detailed changes in 6765 04:06:27,152 --> 04:06:30,152 the conditions of approval that 6766 04:06:32,560 --> 04:06:32,891 I can get their. 6767 04:06:32,891 --> 04:06:36,491 So with the city attorney stand 6768 04:06:37,263 --> 04:06:37,897 ready to correct my language 6769 04:06:37,897 --> 04:06:38,197 because sometimes I get it 6770 04:06:38,197 --> 04:06:38,931 wrong. 6771 04:06:38,931 --> 04:06:42,434 But the two new conditions that 6772 04:06:42,434 --> 04:06:43,135 have been added and the four 6773 04:06:43,135 --> 04:06:45,135 modifications that strengthen 6774 04:06:47,640 --> 04:06:48,240 the permit I am able to make 6775 04:06:48,240 --> 04:06:48,641 findings before I go to 6776 04:06:48,641 --> 04:06:50,641 the motion. 6777 04:06:52,445 --> 04:06:53,780 I do appreciate the other 6778 04:06:53,780 --> 04:06:53,612 issues that were raised by 6779 04:06:53,612 --> 04:06:54,346 the other testimony 6780 04:06:54,346 --> 04:06:57,346 the neighbors, the community as 6781 04:06:57,750 --> 04:06:58,717 a whole. 6782 04:06:58,717 --> 04:07:01,754 I do note or I did note that 6783 04:07:01,754 --> 04:07:02,521 the pto advisory board voted 6784 04:07:02,521 --> 04:07:03,220 five zero to oppose the project 6785 04:07:03,220 --> 04:07:03,723 but didn't give me 6786 04:07:03,723 --> 04:07:07,259 the specifics by which I could 6787 04:07:07,259 --> 04:07:07,593 actually take them into 6788 04:07:07,593 --> 04:07:09,593 account. 6789 04:07:11,864 --> 04:07:12,565 The cpa was not unanimous but 6790 04:07:12,565 --> 04:07:13,165 it did vote seven four to 6791 04:07:13,165 --> 04:07:15,565 support the project and 6792 04:07:16,739 --> 04:07:17,270 the planning Commission as was 6793 04:07:17,270 --> 04:07:19,270 noted also supported 6794 04:07:20,740 --> 04:07:24,340 the project five zero And with 6795 04:07:25,745 --> 04:07:26,445 due respect to the community 6796 04:07:26,445 --> 04:07:27,146 members I did not file find 6797 04:07:27,146 --> 04:07:30,146 that the testimony rose to 6798 04:07:30,650 --> 04:07:31,416 the level Overturning 6799 04:07:31,416 --> 04:07:31,984 the action quite a bit was made 6800 04:07:31,984 --> 04:07:34,984 of who the owners are. 6801 04:07:35,421 --> 04:07:36,122 We actually got that answer in 6802 04:07:36,122 --> 04:07:38,122 this afternoon's conversation. 6803 04:07:40,560 --> 04:07:41,930 So with that I move the staff 6804 04:07:41,930 --> 04:07:41,694 recommendation with 6805 04:07:41,694 --> 04:07:44,940 the amendments to permit 6806 04:07:46,320 --> 04:07:48,320 conditions 25, 26, 31 and 45 6807 04:07:51,204 --> 04:07:51,971 and the addition of a new 6808 04:07:51,971 --> 04:07:54,371 tentative map condition 28 and 6809 04:07:55,774 --> 04:07:56,509 permit condition 15 as shown in 6810 04:07:56,509 --> 04:07:59,509 the staff presentation and that 6811 04:08:00,246 --> 04:08:01,470 will conclude my comments. 6812 04:08:01,470 --> 04:08:01,681 I'll turn over to my colleagues 6813 04:08:01,681 --> 04:08:04,517 looking for a second and 6814 04:08:04,517 --> 04:08:07,517 certainly a any questions or 6815 04:08:09,989 --> 04:08:11,560 comments you might have. 6816 04:08:11,560 --> 04:08:13,456 >> >> Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem 6817 04:08:16,229 --> 04:08:16,629 Let all have for a second 6818 04:08:16,629 --> 04:08:16,996 the motion. 6819 04:08:16,996 --> 04:08:18,731 All right. 6820 04:08:18,731 --> 04:08:19,532 We have a second and I don't 6821 04:08:19,532 --> 04:08:23,132 see anybody else on the lights 6822 04:08:25,400 --> 04:08:25,737 the slide up there does right? 6823 04:08:25,737 --> 04:08:26,406 Oh the other part was directing 6824 04:08:26,406 --> 04:08:28,474 the city attorney to prepare 6825 04:08:28,474 --> 04:08:29,142 the appropriate resolutions 6826 04:08:29,142 --> 04:08:29,642 according to section 40 of 6827 04:08:29,642 --> 04:08:31,642 the city charter. 6828 04:08:33,680 --> 04:08:34,380 So without any other comments 6829 04:08:34,380 --> 04:08:37,380 or questions by my colleagues 6830 04:08:39,284 --> 04:08:39,786 again I'll thank staff the City 6831 04:08:39,786 --> 04:08:41,786 Attorney's office, 6832 04:08:45,457 --> 04:08:46,920 the appellant for the work they 6833 04:08:46,920 --> 04:08:46,826 put in and the committee 6834 04:08:46,826 --> 04:08:47,459 members this time to show up as 6835 04:08:47,459 --> 04:08:49,895 well as the applicant In 6836 04:08:49,895 --> 04:08:52,895 answering my questions And with 6837 04:08:53,299 --> 04:08:54,000 that I'll call for the vote I'm 6838 04:08:54,000 --> 04:08:57,000 sorry the voting system Please 6839 04:09:04,544 --> 04:09:05,283 cast your vote That does pass 6840 04:09:05,283 --> 04:09:07,683 unanimously 7 to 0 with council 6841 04:09:09,382 --> 04:09:10,160 member Elio Rivera and 6842 04:09:10,160 --> 04:09:10,350 Councilmember Von Wilpert 6843 04:09:10,350 --> 04:09:10,784 absent. 6844 04:09:10,784 --> 04:09:11,150 >> Thank you. 6845 04:09:11,150 --> 04:09:13,150 All right. 6846 04:09:15,121 --> 04:09:15,789 Thank you and everyone to wrap 6847 04:09:15,789 --> 04:09:16,522 up this afternoon's meeting, 6848 04:09:16,522 --> 04:09:19,522 does the attorney city attorney 6849 04:09:19,726 --> 04:09:20,326 have anything to report out 6850 04:09:20,326 --> 04:09:20,659 from yesterday's closed 6851 04:09:20,659 --> 04:09:21,327 session? 6852 04:09:21,327 --> 04:09:21,927 >> There's nothing to report 6853 04:09:21,927 --> 04:09:24,327 out from closed session. 6854 04:09:25,365 --> 04:09:26,660 Okay. 6855 04:09:26,660 --> 04:09:26,666 That was necessary because we 6856 04:09:26,666 --> 04:09:29,660 adjourn the afternoon In 6857 04:09:30,603 --> 04:09:31,304 the evening session we will now 6858 04:09:31,304 --> 04:09:32,500 adjourn council to the special 6859 04:09:32,500 --> 04:09:34,740 council meeting on Wednesday, 6860 04:09:34,740 --> 04:09:37,740 MAY 20th, 2026 at 9 A.M..