[0:56] will
[1:02] Good morning.
[1:02] >> I will now call the City
[1:03] Council meeting of Tuesday MAY
[1:08] 19th, 2026 to order After
[1:08] yesterday's deadly shooting I
[1:09] reaffirm our Council's
[1:10] commitment to root out hate in
[1:14] any and every forum hate me
[1:14] have no safe place in our city.
[1:15] As a city and a city council we
[1:20] stand in solidarity with
[1:21] the Islamic center of San Diego
[1:21] and the broader Muslim
[1:22] community.
[1:23] No we are with you and your
[1:23] pain.
[1:26] We are with you and your
[1:27] weeping and we are with you in
[1:27] your sorrow.
[1:31] Three lives were lost yesterday
[1:31] falling victim to senseless,
[1:32] vile and hateful violence
[1:33] including the life of a
[1:37] security guard whose heroism
[1:38] prevented additional loss of
[1:38] life.
[1:39] I am grateful to him and for
[1:43] the swift action of our first
[1:44] responders who secured
[1:44] the building to ensure a safe
[1:45] outcome for the children and
[1:48] school staff.
[1:49] My heart is with the families
[1:50] and loved ones of those lost
[1:50] and those affected by
[1:53] yesterday's tragic events.
[1:54] Please join me in a moment of
[2:57] silence
[2:58] .
[2:58] Thank you.
[2:59] Would any of my colleagues like
[3:00] to share a few words?
[3:04] Council Member Campbell Thank
[3:05] you and thank you for your
[3:11] words.
[3:11] Council PRESIDENT My heart is
[3:16] in the hearts of my staff.
[3:17] Go out to the families and
[3:17] friends of those who lost their
[3:22] lives yesterday in a senseless
[3:22] act of hatred and violence.
[3:23] Our community is in shock from
[3:28] this violent hate crime in
[3:28] the strongest terms I condemn
[3:34] this act of anti-Islam advocate
[3:35] and all hate and all hate
[3:35] crimes.
[3:40] There's absolutely no place in
[3:40] San Diego for hate or violence
[3:41] of any kind.
[3:46] All San Diego does deserve
[3:46] dignity, respect and safety.
[3:52] America was founded on
[3:52] the principle of freedom for
[3:53] all people and act of hate
[3:58] based on race, religion, creed
[3:58] or sexual orientation are
[3:59] fundamentally un-American and
[4:04] do not represent our country's
[4:04] values.
[4:09] >> We appreciate the good work
[4:10] of our public safety officers
[4:16] and we send our heartfelt
[4:17] sympathy to the families
[4:17] involved.
[4:18] >> Thank you.
[4:18] Thank you.
[4:22] Council member Campbell.
[4:23] With that Mark, please call
[4:29] the roll if I MAY.
[4:29] Councilmember Foster Thank you.
[4:34] Council PRESIDENT And my
[4:35] apologies for coming on the mic
[4:40] late but I just want to take a
[4:45] moment from yesterday's
[4:46] actions.
[4:54] It's just heartbreaking And I
[4:55] think we have said over and
[5:00] over from this dais that there
[5:01] is no place for hate in San
[5:06] Diego.
[5:07] But I think as much as we say
[5:11] that I think we all need to
[5:15] understand that San Diego is
[5:23] that our words matter no matter
[5:23] the challenges that we face,
[5:34] the rhetoric that is being
[5:35] provided It has never been more
[5:41] divisive in my time in the 50
[5:47] years that I've been walking
[5:47] But I would like to think is
[5:52] the United States of America
[5:53] And I just want to throw
[5:58] caution to the wind.
[6:04] We can disagree on a policy but
[6:05] I'm just not understanding
[6:10] where the hate continues to
[6:10] come from.
[6:16] And so if we can as we continue
[6:16] to move forward and as we
[6:21] continue to look at how we make
[6:22] the United States a better
[6:27] place as we look to make
[6:28] the city of San Diego a better
[6:29] place, please, please let's
[6:33] spend more time loving our
[6:33] neighbors, learning our
[6:40] neighbors, accepting our
[6:40] neighbors.
[6:45] All of us are different.
[6:46] I'd like to say all of us are
[6:46] custom made.
[6:47] That's why you have your
[6:48] fingerprints.
[6:51] I have my fingerprints.
[6:51] We are going to be inherently
[6:52] different.
[6:57] But different is not wrong.
[7:02] Religious beliefs are not wrong
[7:03] .
[7:04] We must embrace and we must
[7:07] love on one another.
[7:13] I also just want to acknowledge
[7:14] I mean I believe the security
[7:19] guard that lost his life he was
[7:25] a District four resident and as
[7:25] a chief of police said
[7:30] yesterday he is a hero.
[7:31] It's my understanding if he
[7:32] would not have intervened that
[7:32] potentially those shooters
[7:37] would have found their way to a
[7:37] classroom full of young kids.
[7:38] And so I think we all need to
[7:43] understand that.
[7:48] And again, I just ask that we
[7:49] must spend more time loving on
[7:53] one another and trying to
[7:53] understand one another and
[7:54] accepting one another no matter
[7:59] what the differences are.
[8:00] And thank you, Council
[8:04] PRESIDENT And thank you to our
[8:05] first responders and thank you
[8:06] to the families.
[8:10] I can only imagine what
[8:11] the phone call could have been
[8:11] as a parent and you get that
[8:16] phone call of a situation like
[8:17] that happening with your kids.
[8:17] So my heart goes out to
[8:22] the community the entire city
[8:23] of San Diego and my heart goes
[8:28] out to MR. Ameena Abdulla and
[8:28] his family.
[8:34] He had a family kids life.
[8:34] So thank you.
[8:35] Thank you for the courage.
[8:40] But it this is just a tragic
[8:41] but a tragedy that we have to
[8:47] come endure this.
[8:48] So thank you council PRESIDENT.
[8:48] That concludes my comments.
[8:53] Thank you.
[8:53] >> Gloucester Council PRESIDENT
[8:54] Pro Tem Kelly Thank I suppose
[8:58] I'll be short here but thank
[8:58] you for offering some remarks
[8:59] on behalf of the Council and of
[9:00] course adjourning yesterday's
[9:03] meetings in light of everything
[9:03] taking place.
[9:04] I think as a parent like many
[9:09] others hearing the news
[9:10] recognizing that involved not
[9:15] just the mosque but a school
[9:16] was very jarring.
[9:16] The thing for me was to see
[9:17] the images and videos of
[9:21] children having to be evacuated
[9:21] and led to safety.
[9:22] I appreciate the words of
[9:27] Councilmember Foster because I
[9:28] think we do talk a lot about
[9:33] hate and we've seen it and it's
[9:33] in many forms in our community
[9:34] over the years And I think
[9:35] there's no doubt in people's
[9:39] minds that what we've seen in
[9:40] terms of hate has arisen And it
[9:41] says a lot about where we are
[9:45] as a society and our need to
[9:45] respond.
[9:46] There's one there's something
[9:51] that I often say which is that
[9:52] we have to be better than this
[9:53] And I just want to add
[9:57] the words from our arts
[9:58] commissioner from District six,
[9:59] Dennis just one who was
[10:03] capturing this last night some
[10:04] of his own thoughts and he very
[10:05] simple but he he noted that at
[10:09] some point we have to choose to
[10:09] be better than this.
[10:10] And for me that single sentence
[10:15] has been quite profound because
[10:15] I think we all think we know
[10:16] what's right and wrong and how
[10:17] we can be better.
[10:21] But at the end the day there's
[10:21] a choice to be made And it's
[10:27] not just whether folks are in
[10:28] hate, it's also how we respond
[10:29] as a community and especially
[10:32] in a time of mourning how we
[10:33] choose to come together.
[10:34] So that's what I hope we
[10:35] continue to do as a city moving
[10:38] forward.
[10:38] >> Thank you.
[10:39] Thank you.
[10:40] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[10:40] All right.
[10:44] With that?
[10:45] Clerk Please call the roll.
[10:45] Thank you.
[10:46] Council PRESIDENT Council
[10:51] member Campbell here Council
[10:52] Member Weber Council Member
[10:55] Foster here Council Member Von
[10:56] Weber Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
[11:02] Lee here Council Member Campion
[11:03] Council Member Moreno Present
[11:04] Council Member Elk River and
[11:09] Council PRESIDENT McGovern
[11:09] present Also attending
[11:10] the meeting our Chief Deputy
[11:11] City Attorney Cathy Simon.
[11:11] Independent Budget analyst
[11:15] Charles Margo Council Affairs
[11:16] Advisor in the Mayor's office
[11:17] criticizing and myself your
[11:17] city clerk the elephant as
[11:21] the Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[11:21] City Clerk.
[11:22] >> Quorum is now present as we
[11:26] too often do at city council
[11:26] meetings.
[11:27] I want to remind everyone about
[11:27] the city's practices and
[11:32] procedures for public comment
[11:33] at city council meetings
[11:33] The city welcomes public
[11:34] participation at our City
[11:38] Council meetings speakers MAY
[11:38] address the Council during
[11:39] public comment and also in
[11:40] connection with a specific item
[11:44] of business on the agenda.
[11:44] However, the city must make
[11:45] sure that no one person or
[11:46] group of people disrupt
[11:46] the meeting in a way that
[11:51] prohibits other speakers from
[11:51] expressing their ideas and
[11:52] opinions excessive yelling,
[11:53] screaming or speaking beyond
[11:56] once a lot of time for examples
[11:57] of such behavior that disrupts
[11:57] the meeting.
[11:58] So to make sure that everyone
[12:03] here has an opportunity to
[12:03] address the council I will
[12:04] alert an individual or
[12:04] individuals if I think their
[12:08] conduct becomes disruptive.
[12:09] The disruption continues.
[12:10] I won't rule the individual out
[12:10] of order and after
[12:11] the disruption continues
[12:15] further I will declare a recess
[12:16] so we can restore order.
[12:16] At that point I will direct
[12:17] the individual to leave
[12:21] the room and if the individual
[12:22] refuses the police will escort
[12:22] the individual out of
[12:23] the building.
[12:26] If we have to repeat this
[12:27] process of warning and
[12:27] recessing the meeting, all
[12:28] members of the public will be
[12:29] excused from the council
[12:29] chamber.
[12:32] Credentialed media will be
[12:33] allowed to remain.
[12:33] Once again we have these
[12:34] practices and procedures to
[12:35] protect the rights of others
[12:38] who wish to address the Council
[12:39] and to allow the Council to
[12:40] conduct the public's business.
[12:44] With that we will begin this
[12:45] morning with the land
[12:45] acknowledgment and the Pledge
[12:46] of Allegiance led by Council
[12:50] member Moreno.
[12:55] Will you please stand?
[12:56] >> We respectfully acknowledge
[12:57] that becoming a nation are
[12:57] the original inhabitants of
[13:02] the Unceded land now known as
[13:02] San Diego.
[13:03] Despite enduring the horrors of
[13:04] genocide and colonization,
[13:08] the coming ice spirit remains
[13:09] unbroken.
[13:09] We honor the resilience of
[13:10] their ancestors who fought to
[13:15] protect their culture and land.
[13:15] Today they carry their legacy
[13:16] forward ensuring that their
[13:20] traditions continue to thrive
[13:21] in gratitude and strength.
[13:21] We stand with the United Nation
[13:22] connected to our past and
[13:27] committed to a thriving future.
[13:28] If you could please face
[13:28] the flag, put your hand over
[13:32] your heart and repeat after me
[13:32] .
[13:33] I pledge allegiance to the flag
[13:34] of the United States of America
[13:38] and to the Republic for which
[13:39] it stands one nation under GOD,
[13:41] indivisible with liberty and
[13:42] justice for all.
[13:48] Clerk Please go over how
[13:49] the public can offer their
[13:55] testimony.
[13:55] Thank you.
[13:55] Council PRESIDENT.
[13:56] I'd now like to highlight
[13:57] the slide on the screen that
[14:01] reviews the public enough of
[14:01] their public testimony during
[14:02] today's meeting.
[14:02] Please note the time
[14:03] allocations for proclamations
[14:05] and consent items for meeting
[14:06] management purposes is one item
[14:10] one minute per item with three
[14:10] minutes max For three or more
[14:11] items the order can be found on
[14:12] the agenda Summary found online
[14:17] or at the table in the back of
[14:17] the room.
[14:18] If you're in person please
[14:19] complete the speaker set
[14:19] looking at the entrance of
[14:22] chambers and bring it to
[14:22] the front of the room.
[14:23] Council members are available
[14:24] near the entrance and can
[14:24] assist with questions and
[14:27] speakers Lips no further
[14:28] in-person testimony will be
[14:28] taken once the council begins
[14:29] Virtual testimony.
[14:30] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[14:30] right.
[14:34] Thank you Clerk For our first
[14:34] order of business this morning
[14:35] I will be returning a few items
[14:40] back to staff First from our
[14:41] last use me proclamations I'm
[14:44] returning items 33 and 39 again
[14:45] 33 and 39 will not be heard
[14:50] this morning Then two items
[14:51] scheduled for our afternoon
[14:55] session item 330 and as final
[14:57] three again item 330 and as
[15:00] final three will not be heard
[15:01] this afternoon, These items are
[15:02] now returned to staff and will
[15:07] be heard at a later date.
[15:07] With that we will dispense with
[15:08] the balance of the proclamation
[15:12] items.
[15:13] >> City Clerk Thank you Council
[15:14] PRESIDENT The proclamation
[15:19] items being approved are items
[15:20] 30 through 3234 through 38 and
[15:23] s 502 s5o2 with as the Council
[15:27] PRESIDENT Noted item 33 and 39
[15:27] being returned to staff.
[15:31] We did receive comments on item
[15:32] 31 in favor of your comment
[15:33] form which have been
[15:33] distributed to the Council for
[15:38] the long period for
[15:38] the proclamation is now open
[15:39] Each speaker will have one
[15:40] minute per item per person.
[15:43] If you would like to speak on
[15:44] three or more items you'll have
[15:45] a maximum of three minutes If I
[15:45] can have the following
[15:49] individuals please come
[15:50] forward.
[15:55] Katrina Spears Bucket Please
[15:56] come forward and you have time
[15:56] to you by Cynthia Gilliam if
[15:57] you can please raise your hand
[16:01] So then thank you And you're
[16:05] speaking on item as 5o2 You'll
[16:06] have two minutes once you get
[16:11] to the microphone.
[16:18] Good morning everyone.
[16:19] First off I would acknowledge
[16:19] other council members and thank
[16:20] you for having us here today
[16:24] and everyone here as well.
[16:25] I have had my mother in
[16:29] the pink hat that is to Marcia
[16:30] Billie Joe Spears And I'm here
[16:31] today to not only honor her but
[16:37] to recognize her the knowledge,
[16:38] all the goodwill and work she's
[16:40] done in the city of San Diego
[16:40] since 1958.
[16:41] My mother was a young girl
[16:47] living in Louisiana and what a
[16:47] big dream she's always tell us
[16:48] when we were younger But
[16:49] the big dream she had about a
[16:53] bit of excuse me a big city
[16:54] with water surrounding it And
[16:58] that's what we have to American
[16:58] finest city San Diego,
[17:03] California Here she had seven
[17:04] She brought in her four kids
[17:04] out with her and the three that
[17:09] came later to San Diego and I
[17:09] want to let everyone know not
[17:10] only was she a great mother to
[17:15] us but a great teacher and a
[17:15] great pastor and she holds
[17:16] the title of a pastor.
[17:21] As a young girl she always
[17:22] wanted to help.
[17:23] She submit herself to GOD at a
[17:27] very, very early age And in
[17:28] doing so she left behind her
[17:28] career.
[17:29] She had a career with the city
[17:33] of Diego.
[17:34] She was a real estate agent.
[17:35] She is now full time and always
[17:39] has been a pastor.
[17:40] My mother unselfishly gave her
[17:40] life to street ministry.
[17:45] She had a church, a normal
[17:46] life, had a church several
[17:46] churches in San Diego And doing
[17:51] so she not only served people
[17:52] but she served GOD and
[17:52] providing we have set we have
[17:57] homes for men and women.
[17:57] She also did street ministry
[18:02] with tents for Ocean View Park
[18:02] .
[18:03] She had revivals, she did
[18:03] church you name it.
[18:06] My mom was one of the first
[18:07] women as a pastor and
[18:08] recognized as a pastor in
[18:13] the city of San Diego In
[18:14] the community she held many
[18:14] meetings feeding the homeless
[18:19] all while sharing the good news
[18:19] of Jesus Christ Our Lord, thank
[18:20] you for all your celebrations.
[18:25] >> Her 90th birthday she turns
[18:25] 90.
[18:26] Mom, raise your hand.
[18:31] There she is right there with
[18:32] somebody I would like to teach
[18:33] you time.
[18:33] Okay.
[18:33] Thank you so much.
[18:37] Okay.
[18:37] >> Thank you.
[18:38] Sorry.
[18:38] We do have to be fair, but
[18:39] somebody as good as you did
[18:41] your time.
[18:42] >> We have no additional
[18:43] speakers here in council
[18:43] chambers going to those
[18:48] participating remotely.
[18:49] We have four speakers in
[18:49] the queue.
[18:50] Please note again that items 33
[18:54] and 39 were returned so no
[18:54] comments to be should be to
[18:55] those items.
[18:55] Hector if you can please on
[18:59] mute and let me know which item
[19:00] or items you wish to speak to
[19:06] The proclamation items Which
[19:06] one?
[19:10] I don't know which
[19:15] the proclamation is 130 of
[19:15] the item 33.
[19:15] Please proceed.
[19:16] You have one minute.
[19:20] So in the history of our city
[19:21] especially at the time it is
[19:22] now we have got to make more
[19:27] proclamations to other groups
[19:27] of people and knowledge their
[19:32] suffering and kind of wide open
[19:32] especially right now I proclaim
[19:33] we're going to be in for a long
[19:38] meeting the next couple of days
[19:38] and you guys might want to
[19:39] order in order some Uber for
[19:44] some food in and just keep
[19:44] the meeting going so everyone
[19:50] can talk and have a good day by
[19:50] Blair Wickman If you can please
[19:51] unmute and let me know which
[19:53] item or items you wish to speak
[19:58] to.
[19:59] I'm Blair Beekman.
[20:03] I want to speak on three items
[20:04] with you If you can please let
[20:08] me know which three items for
[20:08] the record.
[20:09] >> Yeah.
[20:12] Item 31.
[20:18] Item 36 and item five hundred.
[20:23] >> Please proceed.
[20:24] Thank you.
[20:24] You know, it's my understanding
[20:29] that the Brown Act if a meeting
[20:30] an item is not been spoken
[20:35] before in council or committee
[20:35] you have to allow public
[20:36] comment if you take it off.
[20:40] >> So just a real note that we
[20:41] can talk about at a later time
[20:42] about the Buddha Buddha
[20:47] birthday celebration in day.
[20:48] This is a day to consider all
[20:53] of our religions and here in
[20:54] San Diego and that all have a
[20:54] good standing Buddhist
[20:59] traditions have a good way to
[20:59] understand that concept and
[21:04] that all all religions can be
[21:04] decent and respectable.
[21:05] >> Good luck What we can work
[21:09] on in San Diego.
[21:10] I want to talk a lot more on
[21:10] this subject.
[21:11] I feel a lot of sorrow in
[21:15] what's happened and ways that
[21:15] we can come together as a
[21:16] community.
[21:17] Thank you for the words of a
[21:21] counselor present.
[21:22] Foster It's a time to really
[21:22] work together in our
[21:28] differences and find good
[21:29] results in our differences And
[21:29] I think we can do that.
[21:30] I think there's ways to do that
[21:33] in our efforts.
[21:34] >> There's two other items you
[21:39] have on s500 a Filipino
[21:44] American employee the city of
[21:45] San Diego Filipino-American
[21:49] Employee Association de I spoke
[21:50] yesterday I made I really tried
[21:54] hard to speak on issues
[21:55] yesterday and I was really it's
[22:01] not my intention to bring out
[22:02] the worst of ourselves if I am
[22:07] it is what the real purpose of
[22:08] work and how to bring out
[22:08] the best of ourselves and what
[22:09] we need to be looking for.
[22:13] I try to work in a way where
[22:13] conversations are not kind of
[22:14] the regular conversation you
[22:14] guys have.
[22:17] I feel that you have them
[22:18] personally and internally but
[22:19] they're not conversations that
[22:24] are allowed openly and I hope
[22:24] when I do that it's with
[22:25] the intent to to offer fair,
[22:30] decent conversation not to
[22:30] inflame and not to play gotcha.
[22:31] I really want to work towards
[22:36] constructive good answers in
[22:36] the future.
[22:37] >> So what the San Diego
[22:41] Filipino item again I hope you
[22:42] guys can consider what a pay
[22:46] cut to city workers can mean to
[22:47] the community I think they
[22:47] would be incredibly agree to do
[22:52] and ways to find to to address
[22:53] you know morale issues that
[22:56] we're having as as the San
[22:57] Diego community and good luck
[23:03] in considering that concept and
[23:03] finally to the mentioned morale
[23:04] I mentioned Emergency Medical
[23:09] Services Week important things
[23:09] again, Andrea.
[23:10] I mean it's had difficulties
[23:14] with emt and cpd.
[23:15] I hope this can be a time to
[23:15] really decently review best
[23:20] practices and discover together
[23:21] learn together you know their
[23:21] problems.
[23:25] We can correct our problems.
[23:25] >> Thank you.
[23:26] Thank you, Tony.
[23:31] If you can please unmute I can
[23:32] I mean for you and let me know
[23:36] which item or items you wish to
[23:36] speak to.
[23:37] >> Hey, good morning.
[23:38] Can you hear me?
[23:42] Yes, please proceed.
[23:43] >> Let me know which item or
[23:43] items I wish to speak to
[23:46] the declarations.
[23:47] >> The declaration is part of
[23:48] the consent.
[23:48] Yes.
[23:52] The item number.
[23:53] What was it?
[23:54] Which were the two that were
[23:54] excluded That can't be spoken
[23:55] to you right now?
[24:02] Items 33 and 39 339 okay I will
[24:05] speak to item 31 please.
[24:06] Please proceed to You'll have
[24:06] one minute.
[24:10] Thank you.
[24:11] Hey, good morning, counsel.
[24:16] Just just wanted to say thank
[24:16] you.
[24:17] >> I know it's going to be a
[24:21] long day to day and yeah, I
[24:22] wanted to call in to support
[24:23] what Blaire Beekman said.
[24:27] I agree with what he was
[24:27] saying.
[24:28] I'm not sure I don't have much
[24:29] to say about this proclamation
[24:32] so I just wanted to say good
[24:37] morning and wanted to say look
[24:38] for looking forward to today.
[24:38] >> Thank you.
[24:39] Thank you.
[24:42] And our final speaker is 8700.
[24:43] The five minute timer has also
[24:43] concluded so no additional
[24:48] speakers will be taken 8700 If
[24:49] you can please email and let me
[24:52] know which item or items you
[24:53] wish to speak to.
[24:53] Yes, thank you.
[24:54] City Clerk I will be speaking
[24:58] to all of them.
[24:59] >> Please have three minutes.
[25:03] Please proceed.
[25:03] Good morning everyone and my
[25:04] condolences to all.
[25:08] And the way I'm going to
[25:08] proceed with this I hope it
[25:09] helps a little bit.
[25:10] Please forgive me if I
[25:13] mispronounce anything and I
[25:18] won't say the numbers but you
[25:19] know what they are National
[25:19] Public Works Week.
[25:24] Thank you for making this a
[25:30] better world for I hope I can
[25:35] do this and just say thank you
[25:40] for making this a better world
[25:40] .
[25:41] Torrie Wilson Thank you for
[25:44] making this a better world
[25:45] Garden Catering Thank you for
[25:51] making this a better World
[25:51] County Day.
[25:55] Thank you for making this a
[25:56] better world.
[25:56] Emergency Medical services for
[25:57] inmates.
[26:01] Thank you for making this a
[26:02] better world.
[26:06] Amy Taylor Martinez, thank you
[26:07] so much for making this a
[26:11] better world for Antibodies
[26:12] Day.
[26:12] Thank you for making this a
[26:16] better world.
[26:22] Filipino American employees
[26:23] thank you for making us a
[26:23] better world.
[26:26] To region three to Bueno Amino.
[26:30] Stay.
[26:31] Thank you for making this a
[26:32] better world.
[26:37] Billy Joel.
[26:37] Yeah.
[26:41] I'm not sure I got that right.
[26:41] Thank you for making this a
[26:42] better world.
[26:46] And to everybody else who works
[26:47] to make this a better world and
[26:48] there's so many people in
[26:51] the world.
[26:52] Thank you so much.
[26:53] It's a difficult day in a way
[26:57] It was difficult yesterday and
[26:58] I just assemble and get ready.
[27:01] Thank you.
[27:06] >> Does that conclude your
[27:07] comment?
[27:07] Yes.
[27:07] I'm sorry.
[27:08] Thank you.
[27:12] That does include public
[27:13] comment on the proclamations.
[27:13] >> All right.
[27:14] Thank you, city clerk.
[27:16] And with that I'll turn it over
[27:17] to my council colleagues for
[27:18] any questions and comments.
[27:19] Entertain a motion and we'll
[27:21] start with council member
[27:22] Moreno.
[27:22] >> Wonderful.
[27:22] Thank you.
[27:25] I have comments on item number
[27:26] 37 which is Amy Kremer Martinez
[27:29] And I would ask her to please
[27:34] come up to the podium.
[27:39] Thank you.
[27:40] Come right here.
[27:41] In honor of teachers
[27:45] appreciation Week we recognize
[27:46] an educator whose leadership
[27:50] has transformed Southwest High
[27:50] School into a place where
[27:51] students feel seen, supported
[27:52] and inspired.
[27:56] Last year Southwest High School
[27:57] celebrated its 50th anniversary
[28:00] and Mosquera Martinez has shown
[28:01] unwavering commitment to young
[28:05] people in District eight
[28:06] ensuring that every student has
[28:07] access to opportunities that
[28:10] help them thrive.
[28:11] As a graduate of Bonita Vista
[28:12] High School Southwestern
[28:12] College.
[28:16] Cfa.
[28:16] Fullerton National University.
[28:17] And Point Loma Nazarene
[28:21] University MISS Martinez
[28:22] embodies the strength and
[28:22] promise of the South Bay
[28:26] Education community.
[28:27] Since 2011 MS. Claire Martinez
[28:31] has served the Sweetwater Union
[28:32] High School District as a
[28:33] teacher and administrator
[28:37] supporting her heart into
[28:37] the community that raised her
[28:38] through assemblies athletic
[28:42] support, visual and performing
[28:43] arts programs and student
[28:43] engagement.
[28:47] MS..
[28:47] Martinez has strengthened
[28:48] campus pride and created a
[28:52] culture of belonging.
[28:52] MS. Claire Martinez Inclusive
[28:56] programing an equitable system
[28:57] ensures that every student from
[28:58] every background has a chance
[29:02] to participate lead and shine.
[29:02] She has forged meaningful,
[29:06] meaningful connections with
[29:07] families, staff and community
[29:12] organizations reminding us that
[29:13] schools thrive when communities
[29:13] come together.
[29:17] Now MS..
[29:17] Clara martinez has attended
[29:18] National Night Out at Robert
[29:21] Edgar Park where Southwest high
[29:22] school students consistently
[29:23] showcase a variety of
[29:26] performances.
[29:27] The event is recognized as
[29:27] the largest attended National
[29:32] Night Out celebration in San
[29:32] Diego County.
[29:33] Now as a first generation
[29:37] college student, MS. Claire
[29:38] Martinez has shown students
[29:38] what is possible when
[29:42] determination meets opportunity
[29:42] .
[29:42] Inspiring them to break
[29:43] barriers on their own.
[29:47] She is joined today with her
[29:48] loving husband Nick Martinez,
[29:52] mother and father and also
[29:52] Southwest High School asb
[29:53] PRESIDENT.
[29:57] They matter but there are no
[29:58] future as be PRESIDENT Zoe
[30:01] Garcia and future sb Attorney
[30:06] General Admi Gonzalez.
[30:07] I think yet another
[30:12] exemplification of how she
[30:12] brings and uplifts students.
[30:13] So MS. Claire Martinez you
[30:16] represent the very best of our
[30:16] educators those who change
[30:17] lives not with grand gestures
[30:21] but with daily acts of care,
[30:22] advocacy and belief in their
[30:26] students those who show up with
[30:27] heart, who lift students when
[30:28] they doubt themselves and who
[30:31] quietly shape the future for
[30:32] one young person at a time.
[30:33] So for those reasons and many
[30:36] more the city of San Diego
[30:41] proudly proclaims MAY 19th,
[30:41] 2026 as Amy Quiere martinez
[30:42] Day.
[30:50] >> Thank you.
[30:50] >> I'm ceding her my time.
[30:54] Council PRESIDENT.
[30:55] >> Thank you.
[30:55] If that's okay I'd like to
[30:56] welcome my students to come
[30:59] over.
[30:59] They'd like to say something.
[31:03] I cannot do this work if it
[31:04] wasn't for the support of my
[31:07] family at home and my family at
[31:08] work.
[31:09] So I'd like for them to say a
[31:09] few words because this this
[31:24] really is because of them.
[31:30] >> Hello everyone.
[31:31] My name is Zoe Garcia.
[31:31] I currently serve as a
[31:32] Southwest.
[31:35] Hi attorney General and I was
[31:36] recently elected as the future
[31:39] as your PRESIDENT For the 2026
[31:39] 2027 school year.
[31:40] It is a privilege to be here
[31:44] today recognizing MISS Your
[31:45] Martinez for her dedication and
[31:46] hard work as the assistant
[31:51] principal student activities
[31:51] and our acp advisor MISS
[31:52] Martinez always goes above and
[31:54] beyond for our school and
[31:54] students.
[31:55] Since joining us b as a
[31:55] freshman she has been nothing
[31:58] but kind, supportive and
[31:59] encouraging throughout
[31:59] the years She has become
[32:03] someone I look up to and turn
[32:04] to for guidance.
[32:04] Her passion for her work and
[32:05] the case she shows to every
[32:08] student truly makes her a role
[32:08] model.
[32:09] I can confidently say that she
[32:12] has helped shape me into
[32:13] the leader and person I am
[32:13] today and I will always be
[32:17] grateful for her support.
[32:18] MS. Martinez truly deserves
[32:18] this recognition for
[32:21] the positive impact she has
[32:22] made on so many lives.
[32:23] Congratulations MS. Martinez
[32:23] and thank you for everything
[32:26] you do and thank you all for
[32:27] your attention.
[32:31] >> Thank you.
[32:37] >> Good morning everyone.
[32:39] I am the L.A. Create 50th proud
[32:40] asu PRESIDENT At fault with
[32:40] high school.
[32:44] Honestly being PRESIDENT I
[32:44] would have not gotten to that
[32:45] position without the support
[32:49] And MISS Martinez believing in
[32:50] me and encouraging me to take
[32:50] on new positions and new roles.
[32:54] Challenging myself on a daily
[32:55] basis because she saw potential
[32:58] I didn't see myself.
[32:59] I have I've had the honor to
[33:04] work with her all my four years
[33:04] since I started in.
[33:07] It's been my freshman year to
[33:08] almost leaving.
[33:09] I'm going to MISS Her so much
[33:09] but I know she will continue to
[33:12] push me beyond graduating
[33:13] Southwest High School.
[33:17] She's been a role model and
[33:18] she's been one of the key
[33:19] people that will continue to
[33:22] motivate me and from winning
[33:26] the laurels for leaders and
[33:27] Community Service project I
[33:28] knew she was a big part of
[33:28] that.
[33:32] She made a huge impact in that
[33:33] project and overall she's just
[33:34] been like a second one to me at
[33:37] school and now I can always run
[33:37] to her or tell her anything.
[33:41] Honestly.
[33:42] But she's been a great model,
[33:43] great role model And this
[33:46] recognition is beyond deserved.
[33:55] >> So thank you guys.
[33:56] >> Thank you.
[33:56] And without without Council
[33:57] PRESIDENT I'm happy to make a
[34:00] motion to move proclamations.
[34:00] >> Thank you.
[34:01] Thank you.
[34:01] Council members We have a
[34:07] motion by Council Memorandum.
[34:07] >> We'll go next to
[34:08] Councilmember Foster.
[34:12] Yes, thank you, Council
[34:12] PRESIDENT.
[34:13] And I'm going to try to keep my
[34:16] comments brief.
[34:21] Just congratulations to all of
[34:21] the organizations and
[34:25] individuals receiving
[34:26] the proclamation today.
[34:31] But I want to say a few words
[34:34] on item as 502 Billy Joe to
[34:39] Marcia Spears Day as we are
[34:43] here to celebrate Pastor Spears
[34:44] .
[34:44] As we approach your 90th
[34:48] birthday on the 21st, it is
[34:49] truly a blessing to recognize
[34:53] and celebrate you today.
[34:54] Your life has been grounded in
[34:58] faith service, family and love
[34:59] for community and so many
[35:03] people across the district for
[35:03] have been touched by your care,
[35:08] leadership and generosity over
[35:08] the years whether through
[35:09] ministry feeding families,
[35:13] mentoring young people or
[35:14] simply showing up for those in
[35:14] need.
[35:18] You have poured into this
[35:18] community for decades and I
[35:21] have to say 90 years young and
[35:22] still going strong is something
[35:26] we can all aspire to.
[35:27] On behalf of District four in
[35:31] the city of San Diego.
[35:31] Happy early birthday and thank
[35:35] you Thank you for all that you
[35:36] do and all that you have given
[35:37] not only to District four but
[35:40] to the city of San Diego.
[35:41] >> Thank you so much And yes
[35:48] indeed I just want to read one
[35:53] line from the proclamation as
[35:57] we are in this time.
[35:58] I just think for me personally
[36:02] family is just so, so important
[36:07] and hidden in the proclamation
[36:08] It reads As a devoted mother of
[36:12] seven grandmother of 19 and
[36:16] great grandmother of 26 Pastor
[36:20] Spears has built a lasting
[36:21] legacy grounded in love
[36:25] guidance and generational
[36:31] impact that truly is a blessing
[36:36] and GOD is good and thank you.
[36:37] >> Thank you for everything
[36:37] that you have done for the city
[36:40] of San Diego.
[36:45] And with that council PRESIDENT
[36:46] I do have some time remaining
[36:46] on the lights.
[36:48] >> I will second
[36:49] the proclamations but I would
[36:50] like to offer any time to any
[36:54] other family member that would
[36:55] like to come up and say a few
[37:07] words please.
[37:13] You.
[37:14] I really do.
[37:27] And then why don't Oh, we want
[37:33] to you know I want to thank you
[37:37] for all goes to GOD and of San
[37:41] Diego I don't mean they helped
[37:42] me all the way up to two
[37:43] different programs that were
[37:46] gifted to you.
[37:51] I really thank GOD and I pray
[37:56] full you politician after I
[37:57] thank you all for what you all
[38:04] have done and say Oh I am just
[38:05] so grateful that the Lord bless
[38:10] one of my children's pastor way
[38:10] about five years ago.
[38:14] GOD's been good to me, be good
[38:15] to my children and I just thank
[38:16] GOD for the youth program.
[38:20] Everything helped me and I'm in
[38:21] tears.
[38:21] I thought about how I had put
[38:24] their age up this was they
[38:25] supposed to be 50 Their youth
[38:29] program brought a lot of help
[38:33] to this city in San Diego in
[38:33] the southeast area.
[38:34] I wish they would get it back.
[38:38] We would have so many people on
[38:39] the street, young people if we
[38:42] could get that program back So
[38:43] I don't know if it can be done
[38:44] but I thank GOD But I you can
[38:50] do it if you put your trust in
[38:51] GOD sometime I feel that they
[38:52] had it I do it Lord seven years
[38:53] and not all the way up I
[38:54] received about six months I
[38:56] sent the checks back to them
[38:57] and told them I would do for
[38:58] myself And I thank GOD for
[39:01] the city of San Diego because
[39:02] you all have truly been good to
[39:05] my family and my children's.
[39:06] >> Thank you so much.
[39:10] Union and thank you.
[39:15] Thank you so much and MAY GOD
[39:16] continue to bless you with his
[39:19] love, with his grace and with
[39:20] good health.
[39:21] Thank you Counsel Present That
[39:25] concludes my comments.
[39:25] All right.
[39:26] Thank you.
[39:26] So we have a motion by council
[39:27] member Moreno, the second by
[39:29] Councilmember Foster to move
[39:29] The proclamations will go next
[39:30] to council member Campbell
[39:34] Thank you council PRESIDENT And
[39:35] thank you and congratulations
[39:39] to everyone receiving
[39:39] proclamations today I will
[39:44] speak on three very briefly 32
[39:48] 3436 and I'd like to start on
[39:48] behalf of my colleague council
[39:49] member Von Wilpert who couldn't
[39:53] be here today but who like to
[39:58] give a proclamation in honor of
[40:02] our Teatro Catering Company.
[40:03] She asked me to share her
[40:03] congratulations on this
[40:07] proclamation Recognizing Auntie
[40:11] Arturo Catering Day for more
[40:11] than two decades Arteta has
[40:12] been an important part of San
[40:15] Diego's small business
[40:16] community and a place that has
[40:17] brought people together through
[40:22] great food.
[40:22] Councilmember Von Wolford has
[40:23] been at lta through many times
[40:25] over the years and wanted to
[40:26] share that The food is always
[40:27] incredible especially the baked
[40:30] goods.
[40:31] Auntie Arturo has created a
[40:31] welcoming space in the heart of
[40:35] downtown in San Diego where
[40:35] people can enjoy quality food
[40:40] and European inspired cuisine.
[40:41] Nancy Daniels leadership and
[40:41] commitment to the community
[40:45] have helped make our Teatro
[40:46] such a long time Local favorite
[40:49] Congratulations on 22 years of
[40:49] service to the San Diego
[40:54] community and best wishes for
[40:55] continued for continued success
[40:59] in the many years ahead And I
[41:00] believe that they Would you
[41:04] please wave There you are.
[41:05] >> Yes, I knew you were here.
[41:13] Thank you And thank you on
[41:14] behalf of Council Member one
[41:17] Open And I would also like to
[41:18] make some remarks today for DR.
[41:19] Troy Wilson who I believe MAY
[41:23] also be here DR. Wilson or his
[41:23] family.
[41:28] DR. Wilson received the 2026
[41:32] Dwayne Roth Achievement Award
[41:32] for his leadership in
[41:33] developing developing a
[41:37] medication a new medication to
[41:38] treat cancer, his
[41:39] groundbreaking work to advance
[41:39] the treatment of certain
[41:43] aggressive types of leukemia
[41:43] will change the lives of many
[41:47] patients for years to come and
[41:48] give them many years of good
[41:48] living.
[41:51] As a family physician I can
[41:52] tell you firsthand how
[41:53] important it is to constantly
[41:56] be developing new innovative
[41:57] treatments so that we can help
[42:01] improve the lives of our
[42:02] patients.
[42:02] So congratulations to DR.
[42:06] Wilson on receiving this award
[42:07] and I thank him for all his
[42:11] Richard's research and
[42:12] contributions to the field of
[42:12] cancer treatment.
[42:16] My last remarks will be for
[42:17] item 36 Emergency Medical
[42:21] Services Week proc.
[42:22] I want to thank the emerging
[42:26] Emergency Medical Services for
[42:31] all that they do and say how
[42:32] much I appreciate this work
[42:32] which is observed across
[42:36] America to honor our first
[42:36] responders and our emergency
[42:40] medicine providers.
[42:41] Emergency medical service
[42:45] providers are EMTs, paramedics
[42:45] ,also firefighters,
[42:46] dispatchers, lifeguards and
[42:50] police department personnel.
[42:51] First responders go through
[42:51] many hours of training so they
[42:55] can administer care to
[42:55] residents in emergency
[42:56] situations which often makes
[43:00] the difference between life and
[43:00] death.
[43:01] And I want to thank our
[43:02] wonderful first responders for
[43:05] all that they do to keep San
[43:06] Diegans safe every single day.
[43:10] And thank you, council
[43:10] PRESIDENT.
[43:11] >> All right.
[43:11] Thank you, Council member
[43:19] Campbell Go and council member
[43:19] whispered Thank you very much
[43:20] Council PRESIDENT So very
[43:24] wonderful proclamation today
[43:24] and organizations and
[43:25] individuals being recognized.
[43:28] Congratulations to everybody
[43:29] being honored I have Cubbage in
[43:33] relation to sub including sub
[43:34] specifically district three it
[43:38] is my order to break forward a
[43:39] proclamation recognizing
[43:40] the sea fog temple in
[43:43] University Heights and
[43:44] celebrating Buddha's birthday
[43:44] on MAY 24th.
[43:48] This is at important cultural
[43:49] and religious observance for
[43:49] many members of San Diego's
[43:53] Buddhist community and I want
[43:53] to thank the Chief Temple for
[43:54] the role that it plays in
[43:54] fostering compassion
[43:58] mindfulness service and
[43:58] community connection here in
[44:01] District three and around
[44:02] the city of San Diego.
[44:03] I would also like to extend a
[44:07] special thank you to
[44:07] Superintendent Be outside for
[44:08] being here with us today.
[44:10] I would like to welcome
[44:11] the superintendent up to say a
[44:20] few words.
[44:25] Good morning Council PRESIDENT
[44:26] And Honorable Council members
[44:31] on behalf of Shivani Temple and
[44:31] the Greater Buddhist Community
[44:32] of San Diego we sincerely thank
[44:36] the City of San Diego for this
[44:36] proclamation.
[44:37] Recognizing MAY 24th as
[44:40] the Buddha's birthday
[44:40] celebration day This
[44:41] recognition carries deep
[44:45] meaning for us because Buddha
[44:46] spread they also known
[44:50] internationally as we thank is
[44:50] a celebration shared by
[44:54] Buddhists throughout the world
[44:54] .
[44:55] In 1999 the United Nations
[44:59] officially recognized Vesak as
[45:00] an international observation
[45:04] acknowledging Buddha's message
[45:04] of peace, compassion, wisdom
[45:09] and harmony for humanity.
[45:10] More than seven decades ago our
[45:14] founder Durban Master Xing Yang
[45:14] began promoting public Buddha's
[45:19] birthday celebrations across
[45:19] the communities in Taiwan.
[45:23] He believed that true kindness,
[45:24] mutual respect and
[45:25] understanding the society could
[45:28] become more peaceful and
[45:29] harmonious.
[45:33] Today that message fills
[45:34] especially important as the sad
[45:35] happening affecting the Islamic
[45:39] center of San Diego Yesterday
[45:39] we are reminded that our
[45:43] communities must continue
[45:44] standing together with
[45:45] compassion, friendship and
[45:48] mutual respect.
[45:49] Moments like this remind us
[45:53] that regardless of our
[45:54] different faith or backgrounds
[45:57] we are all interconnected as
[45:58] one big family.
[45:59] This proclamation is not only
[46:02] an honor for Shifang Temple it
[46:03] is also a recognition of
[46:07] contributions of the entire
[46:07] Buddhist community and all of
[46:11] those who work together to
[46:12] foster compassion, mindfulness
[46:13] service and peace in our
[46:17] society.
[46:17] >> Buddha's birthday is truly a
[46:18] celebration for everyone
[46:22] regardless of background or
[46:23] faith tradition because
[46:26] the values we celebrate are
[46:27] universal peace, gratitude,
[46:32] compassion and a consistence.
[46:33] We will only invite everyone to
[46:37] join us on MAY 24th Buddha's
[46:38] Birthday and Family Festival as
[46:41] we celebrate together in a
[46:42] spirit of harmony and
[46:42] friendship.
[46:46] Thank you Superintendent.
[46:47] >> Thank you for those words.
[46:51] Very well said.
[46:56] >> Today I am also pleased to
[46:57] join my colleagues in ordering
[46:57] the highly recognized
[47:01] restaurant Kelly and proclaim
[47:02] JUNE 4th as Kelly Day in
[47:03] the city of San Diego.
[47:07] Over the past five years chef
[47:07] Travis Ricard and Kelly have
[47:10] helped to establish say, Diego
[47:11] is a nationally recognized
[47:11] culinary destination Through an
[47:15] extraordinary commitment to
[47:16] hospitality, creativity and
[47:16] excellence.
[47:17] Beyond the restaurant itself,
[47:20] Kelly has made a meaningful
[47:21] impact on our local community
[47:21] by supporting local farmers and
[47:25] fishers and producers
[47:26] contributing to the East
[47:26] Village economy and helping to
[47:27] better the next generation of
[47:30] hospitality professionals here
[47:31] in San Diego.
[47:31] And I also want to recognize
[47:32] the restaurant's commitment to
[47:35] giving back including its
[47:35] partnership with feeding say
[47:36] Diego.
[47:40] JUNE 4th also carries a deep
[47:40] personal significance for
[47:41] Travis and his family as it
[47:44] honors the life and memory of
[47:44] his brother.
[47:45] I think it is particularly
[47:49] meaningful that they have
[47:50] chosen to transform a day
[47:51] rooted loss in the world that
[47:54] is centered on generosity and
[47:54] purpose of family and
[47:55] community.
[47:56] And I would like to thank Chef
[47:58] Swicord at Barnes Ricard,
[47:59] the owners of Kelly and their
[48:00] staff for everything that they
[48:04] have contributed to San Diego.
[48:04] And I would like to invite Mia
[48:05] and Travis to come forward at
[48:06] this time and share a few words
[48:20] with us.
[48:21] >> Thank you so much for this
[48:22] recognition and this
[48:25] proclamation.
[48:26] As a born and raised San Diego
[48:30] kid, it's a lot for me to stand
[48:31] up here today and feel this
[48:35] emotion.
[48:35] But I traveled all over
[48:36] the world cooking to learn how
[48:39] to be the very best chef I can
[48:40] be and be the best
[48:41] restauranteur I could be.
[48:41] And when I moved home after
[48:45] doing that I really felt a
[48:45] strong responsibility to be
[48:49] more than a chef and more than
[48:50] a restauranteur and have a true
[48:50] impact on my hometown.
[48:54] And I think that outside of
[48:55] having just a great restaurant
[49:00] it's been a true honor to have
[49:04] that ability and to really
[49:09] focus our energy and on giving
[49:09] back to the community.
[49:10] Just recently we've been able
[49:14] to open up a school pantry in
[49:15] our in our neighborhood in Bio
[49:15] Logan.
[49:18] And I can't tell you a more
[49:19] meaningful thing I've ever done
[49:23] in my life So to get this
[49:23] recognition today it means a
[49:24] lot to us And thank you so
[49:24] much.
[49:28] >> Thank you very much, Travis.
[49:28] Thank you.
[49:29] Be a congratulations.
[49:29] Thank you for being here this
[49:30] morning.
[49:34] Thank you.
[49:40] >> I am also pleased to joined
[49:40] by colleague culture Barbara
[49:41] Campbell and Councilmember Bart
[49:41] Wilpert.
[49:44] It recognizes the El Teatro
[49:45] Catering As you heard for over
[49:48] 22 years it has been a staple
[49:49] of our civic center providing
[49:50] city employees and theatergoers
[49:54] and visitors with great service
[49:54] and a wide variety of tasty
[49:55] foods and drinks.
[49:59] So congratulations to El
[50:00] Cerrito and 22 years as
[50:04] Councilmember Kimball pointed
[50:04] out, this is also Emergency
[50:05] Medical Services Week and I am
[50:09] delighted to join my colleagues
[50:09] in bringing forward
[50:10] the proclamation recognizing
[50:13] ems Week.
[50:13] Emergency responders have
[50:14] incredible courage and
[50:14] strength.
[50:18] They are there for every member
[50:19] of our community.
[50:19] But the call comes in for help
[50:22] no matter the circumstances
[50:23] They are a lifeline for people
[50:24] facing life threatening
[50:24] injuries or illness.
[50:27] Their ability to quickly
[50:28] perform their duties could
[50:29] absolutely be the difference.
[50:29] As we all know between life and
[50:32] death.
[50:33] I'd like to recognize all of
[50:34] our emergency responders across
[50:34] our city for their outstanding
[50:37] work to save countless lives
[50:38] many times putting themselves
[50:42] in the way of danger.
[50:43] And I would like to invite
[50:43] first responder Carlos Valdes.
[50:47] Acosta to come up at this time
[51:01] and please say a few words.
[51:01] >> Good morning City Council.
[51:02] On behalf of American Medical
[51:03] Response, I'm truly grateful
[51:07] for receiving this and a very
[51:08] knowledge ems week.
[51:08] I take a second to have my team
[51:17] stand up for a second.
[51:18] >> I want to take a moment to
[51:23] highlight what it takes to make
[51:23] ems great.
[51:24] We have EMTs, paramedics,
[51:27] dispatchers, nurses,
[51:28] dispatchers, servers and all
[51:29] our support staff that work
[51:33] together to make this you know,
[51:33] put a great service in the city
[51:34] along with other partners that
[51:35] we collaborate with City Fire
[51:40] or City Communication Center.
[51:41] It truly is a team sport and it
[51:42] really takes all of us to show
[51:43] up and really serve this
[51:45] community every single day.
[51:46] We're truly grateful and proud
[51:47] to serve the city of San Diego
[51:50] and we're extremely humble for
[51:51] everyone here to put the trust
[51:52] in us to provide that care.
[51:56] Thank you for recognizing ems
[51:56] Week and thank you for
[51:57] the people behind it.
[51:57] >> Thank you.
[51:58] Thank you very much, Carlos.
[51:59] Thank you to all of you for
[52:04] your service to our city.
[52:08] >> I'm pleased to join Bayer
[52:09] Gloria and councilmembers Lee
[52:09] played Isla Rivera in
[52:12] proclaiming City of Santiago
[52:13] Filipino American Employees
[52:17] Association Day As we celebrate
[52:18] the important contributions of
[52:18] the city of San Diego, Filipino
[52:22] American employees Association,
[52:23] Filipino Americans continue to
[52:23] play a vital role in
[52:27] strengthening say Diego through
[52:28] public service and community
[52:28] leadership, health care,
[52:32] education and so many other
[52:32] fields.
[52:33] And I want to thank
[52:34] the association's leadership
[52:34] and members for their
[52:37] dedication and continued
[52:38] commitment to serving
[52:38] the people of San Diego.
[52:43] And finally I will join in
[52:44] the thanks to Rita Cabello,
[52:46] comedian Ed Roos for 30 years
[52:46] of dedication to our city.
[52:47] Congratulations.
[52:50] For decades you served our city
[52:51] and we are deeply grateful for
[52:51] your service.
[52:52] Thank you and thank you.
[52:55] Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[52:56] Council member Whitburn I will
[53:00] now go to Council PRESIDENT Pro
[53:01] Tem Lee I think as PRESIDENT
[53:02] And I want to thank my
[53:03] colleagues for the number of
[53:05] recognitions today including to
[53:06] everyone in ems.
[53:11] Thank you for being here too
[53:11] Kelly I've actually had a
[53:12] chance to visit once with my
[53:15] friends from Kingfisher and it
[53:16] was very enjoyable and
[53:16] congratulations to you and all
[53:20] your work in the community.
[53:21] I'm going to speak specifically
[53:22] to a couple of proclamations
[53:25] starting with item 31 where I
[53:25] want to thank Council member
[53:29] Whitburn for having us join him
[53:30] in proclaiming MAY 24th 2026 as
[53:33] Shipping Temple and Buddha's
[53:34] Birthday Celebration day in
[53:34] the City.
[53:35] I think you've already heard a
[53:36] little bit about them what they
[53:39] do and I just want to thank you
[53:39] for your remarks especially in
[53:43] light of the incident yesterday
[53:44] at the Islamic Center of San
[53:44] Diego and especially and
[53:48] recognizing that when it comes
[53:48] to getting people together of
[53:49] all faiths and all cultures, I
[53:50] think there's one thing that we
[53:53] can share in common in terms of
[53:54] calling out hatred and violence
[53:57] and that was meaningful for you
[53:58] to share in your time up here
[54:02] for item 32 for Troy Wilson Day
[54:02] we actually originally had
[54:07] intended to have DR. Wilson and
[54:08] his team with us today and I
[54:08] just want to share that in
[54:11] light of yesterday's events
[54:12] that they did make a choice,
[54:13] you know not to attend this
[54:16] morning but I do still want to
[54:17] take this moment to join
[54:21] council PRESIDENT LaCava, my
[54:22] colleague Councilmember
[54:22] Campbell in proclaiming JUNE
[54:25] 11th, 2026 is Troy Wilson Day
[54:26] in the city of San Diego on
[54:26] JUNE 11th.
[54:30] DR. Wilson will be presented
[54:31] with the 2026 Dwayne Roth
[54:32] Achievement Award for his
[54:35] leadership in cancer drug
[54:36] development and his impact on
[54:36] cancer patients.
[54:37] The Dwayne Roth Achievement
[54:40] Award is presented to health
[54:41] care leaders whose focus is
[54:41] solely on patients by
[54:42] overcoming institutional and
[54:45] scientific challenges to bring
[54:46] forward new research that leads
[54:47] to revolutionary treatment
[54:49] methods and as PRESIDENT Ceo
[54:50] and CHAIRMAN Of the Board for
[54:51] Cure Oncology, DR. Wilson has
[54:55] been a pioneer in that field.
[54:55] He's proven to be an
[54:56] accomplished leader in biotech
[54:57] through the founding building
[54:59] and leading of innovative
[55:00] companies that deliver
[55:00] transformative therapies for
[55:01] patients benefit.
[55:04] And with more than 25 years of
[55:04] experience has delivered
[55:05] groundbreaking therapies that
[55:08] have resulted in life changing
[55:09] results for oncological
[55:09] patients.
[55:10] So we're certainly honored to
[55:13] celebrate his innovation and
[55:14] achievements and DR. Wilson's
[55:15] deep commitment to innovation
[55:19] and patients certainly make him
[55:19] worthy of that recognition.
[55:23] Thank you to you cc D.A. For
[55:24] recognizing him and we're
[55:28] honored to join them in that.
[55:28] And then finally for item 500,
[55:29] we're proud to recognize
[55:32] Philippine independence Day and
[55:33] to celebrate the lasting
[55:34] contributions of our Filipino
[55:37] American community, especially
[55:38] through the dedicated city
[55:38] employees who serve our
[55:42] residents every day.
[55:42] This proclamation celebrates
[55:43] the city of San Diego
[55:47] Filipino-American employees and
[55:48] they hold a fantastic cultural
[55:52] celebration every year
[55:52] surrounding the Independence
[55:53] Day.
[55:53] It's a great luncheon.
[55:57] Last year they had a city band
[55:57] that performed which was fun in
[56:02] its own right and in these
[56:02] moments I think we we are
[56:03] appreciative that we get to be
[56:06] a city that really values this
[56:06] sense of diversity within our
[56:07] city and the impact that
[56:11] Filipino employees have
[56:12] throughout the city of San
[56:12] Diego.
[56:13] So with that concludes my
[56:16] comments.
[56:17] Thank you.
[56:17] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[56:18] Thank you.
[56:18] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Not
[56:21] seeing anyone else in
[56:21] the lights.
[56:22] i'll offer a few concluding
[56:25] comments as well recognizing
[56:30] everybody who got a
[56:30] proclamation an individual a
[56:35] cause Um I congratulate and
[56:36] thinking of my colleagues for
[56:37] bringing these and highlighting
[56:40] what makes San Diego so special
[56:41] to emergency medical services.
[56:44] Thank you to the first
[56:45] responders and what you do
[56:45] every day.
[56:49] As was said unfortunately too
[56:50] often yesterday you run into
[56:50] the danger to serve those in
[56:55] their most vulnerable
[56:55] conditions.
[56:56] >> So we're so appreciative.
[56:59] As the only Italian up here,
[57:00] I'm a little embarrassed that I
[57:01] didn't get my name added to
[57:04] the proclamation.
[57:05] But I will honor you by saying
[57:05] you have the best and freshest
[57:08] cannoli in the city and that's
[57:09] a very high bar.
[57:13] >> So thank you for for that.
[57:17] And to the proclamations on
[57:18] item 30 excuse me going to do
[57:22] 32 First of Troy Wilson Day
[57:23] I'll join Council PRESIDENT Pro
[57:23] Tem Lee and council member
[57:26] Campbell in congratulating DR.
[57:27] Wilson on receiving the 2026
[57:31] Dwayne Roth Achievement Award
[57:32] for your remarkable research in
[57:32] the field of oncology, your
[57:36] research and contributions are
[57:36] nothing short of remarkable
[57:37] from being the founder of
[57:38] multiple cancer research
[57:40] companies to developing
[57:41] groundbreaking therapies and
[57:42] medication.
[57:42] DR. Wilson's work continues to
[57:46] advance technologies that help
[57:46] fight cancer and improve
[57:51] the lives of so very many.
[57:52] Thank you DR. Wilson for not
[57:52] only making San Diego a leader
[57:53] in biotechnology research but
[57:56] for advancing lifesaving
[57:56] research that is changing
[57:57] the future of cancer treatment
[58:01] in the field of oncology and
[58:06] for countless patients I am 30
[58:06] National Public Works Week
[58:10] today Invite my colleagues to
[58:11] proclaim this week MAY 17th
[58:11] through 23rd as National Public
[58:15] Works Week in the city of San
[58:16] Diego so that we can highlight
[58:16] the public works employees who
[58:20] help keep our city up and
[58:20] running from maintaining our
[58:21] roads and buildings to
[58:24] protecting our water systems.
[58:25] These are the people that every
[58:26] day ensure our city's quality
[58:29] of life and protect our public
[58:29] health and safety.
[58:30] Thank you to all the engineers
[58:33] maintenance workers, managers
[58:34] and public works employees who
[58:35] continue to make our city as
[58:38] safe as it can be.
[58:39] Your knowledge, expertise and
[58:40] public service do not go
[58:43] unnoticed by the people of San
[58:43] Diego.
[58:44] And with that I will invite our
[58:48] chief community services
[58:49] officer and city engineer Ron
[58:57] Yamin to make some remarks.
[58:58] >> Good morning.
[59:02] Council PRESIDENT Angela Carver
[59:03] and members of the City Council
[59:04] on behalf of the Public Works
[59:07] professionals across the city,
[59:08] thank you for this
[59:08] proclamation.
[59:09] Recognizing National Public
[59:12] Works Week and all our
[59:12] dedicated Public works
[59:17] employees this year's theme
[59:17] Advancing Quality of Life for
[59:21] All reflects the essential work
[59:22] been done across so many
[59:25] disciplines and departments
[59:26] from maintaining our streets,
[59:27] sidewalks and stormwater
[59:30] systems to delivering clean
[59:31] water and wastewater services,
[59:32] managing capital improvement
[59:36] Project protecting public
[59:36] spaces, supporting fleet and
[59:37] facilities operation and
[59:41] responding during emergencies
[59:41] and storms.
[59:42] Public policies Often
[59:46] the unseen work that keeps our
[59:47] city moving safely, reliably
[59:47] and efficiently.
[59:51] Everything go day behind every
[59:52] service As a team of
[59:55] hardworking professionals who
[59:56] are deeply committed to
[59:57] improving the daily lives of
[1:00:00] residents in every neighborhood
[1:00:01] even with aging infrastructure,
[1:00:02] growing service demands and
[1:00:06] limited resources, our
[1:00:07] employees continue to be to do
[1:00:11] the absolute most with what
[1:00:12] they have The resilience and
[1:00:15] dedication allow critical
[1:00:16] services and projects to keep
[1:00:19] moving forward often behind
[1:00:20] the scenes We are incredibly
[1:00:24] proud of our city employees and
[1:00:25] grateful for everything they do
[1:00:26] for our communities And thank
[1:00:29] you again for the recognition
[1:00:30] and for the continued
[1:00:30] partnership and support of
[1:00:34] the public works.
[1:00:35] Thank you Ron.
[1:00:36] The comments well stated.
[1:00:39] All right.
[1:00:40] With that we have a motion by
[1:00:41] Councilmember Marino and a
[1:00:42] second by council member
[1:00:42] Foster.
[1:00:47] Clerk Please call the roll.
[1:00:48] Please start your voting system
[1:00:49] I'm sorry your voting system
[1:00:54] Please cast your vote That
[1:00:59] passes unanimously 6 to 0 with
[1:01:00] Council member Eli Rivera,
[1:01:01] Councilmember Campo and
[1:01:01] Councilmember Von Wilpert
[1:01:02] absent.
[1:01:02] Thank you.
[1:01:03] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:01:04] >> All right.
[1:01:05] Thank you, City Clerk And with
[1:01:06] that we will take a brief pause
[1:01:09] for photos and we will start
[1:01:10] with item 31 which is to say
[1:01:14] find Temple and Buddha's
[1:01:15] birthday celebration day if you
[1:01:58] can come up
[1:02:04] , buddy.
[1:02:12] >> But yet one thing we're
[1:02:58] going to and Great Thank you
[1:03:07] so
[1:05:04] hard to have it
[1:07:04] and
[1:12:11] all right continuing on with
[1:12:16] this morning's business, we
[1:12:17] will now proceed with
[1:12:17] the approval of the consent
[1:12:21] items item 50 which was
[1:12:22] previously heard at the Budget
[1:12:25] Committee will be returned to
[1:12:26] staff again.
[1:12:26] Item 50 which was previously
[1:12:27] heard at the Budget Committee
[1:12:31] will be returned to staff.
[1:12:32] Are there any request to pull
[1:12:32] an item by my council
[1:12:36] colleagues?
[1:12:37] I'm not seeing any such
[1:12:37] request.
[1:12:38] Clerk Please proceed with
[1:12:41] public comment.
[1:12:42] Thank you.
[1:12:42] Council PRESIDENT Please don't
[1:12:43] you Speaker We'll have one
[1:12:45] minute per item per person If
[1:12:46] you would like to speak on
[1:12:47] three or more items you'll have
[1:12:47] a maximum of three minutes.
[1:12:50] The consent agenda includes
[1:12:54] items ten items 103 104 items
[1:12:55] 504 and s505 Item 50 was
[1:12:55] returned.
[1:12:59] We also received comments on
[1:13:00] items 101 012 in favor
[1:13:04] respectively b r e comment form
[1:13:05] which have been distributed to
[1:13:08] the Council.
[1:13:09] We have Brian Helmick here to
[1:13:12] speak on item 100.
[1:13:14] You'll have one minute.
[1:13:21] >> Please proceed And that's a
[1:13:27] set strict and he does that
[1:13:28] team Ed is not just a funding
[1:13:29] board but it's actually
[1:13:32] the embodiment of a community
[1:13:32] community that voted into it
[1:13:33] into existence and it's
[1:13:34] residents coming together to
[1:13:37] show pride in their shared
[1:13:38] neighborhood and San Diego team
[1:13:39] and fully supports this banner
[1:13:42] district and has approved
[1:13:43] related funding for a display
[1:13:44] celebrating Talmage Centennial
[1:13:47] year.
[1:13:47] Our theme Putting down roots
[1:13:48] since 1926 recognizes not only
[1:13:52] talent as founding but also all
[1:13:53] who have made this part of San
[1:13:53] Diego their home through
[1:13:57] the last 100 years Today and
[1:13:58] also going forward we hope
[1:14:01] the council will support
[1:14:02] the community in authorizing
[1:14:03] this district and the council
[1:14:06] members and staff will join
[1:14:07] residents at the annual Talmage
[1:14:08] Block party in OCTOBER as this
[1:14:11] part of San Diego steps forward
[1:14:11] into its next 100 years.
[1:14:16] Thank you.
[1:14:17] Thank you.
[1:14:17] Started the five minute timer
[1:14:18] going to those participating
[1:14:18] remotely.
[1:14:21] We have four speakers in
[1:14:21] the queue.
[1:14:22] Hector if you can please and
[1:14:22] mute and let me know which item
[1:14:23] or items you wish to speak to
[1:14:28] today.
[1:14:30] The 100 The 1o4.
[1:14:31] >> You'll have two minutes.
[1:14:35] Please proceed guys.
[1:14:36] Got to circumvent the mayor or
[1:14:40] our mayor is opening as dumb
[1:14:41] And now I'm talking about
[1:14:42] America's finest city.
[1:14:46] America's finest city would not
[1:14:50] be closing the libraries
[1:14:51] letting Mexico dump their on
[1:14:55] us for 20 years He needs to
[1:14:56] calm his jets down.
[1:15:00] He's known for the mayor who's
[1:15:01] charged to go to the park and
[1:15:01] park.
[1:15:06] How he put up with want to for
[1:15:10] 20 years Who did the street
[1:15:11] $150 million debacle on tv You
[1:15:16] need to tell him to shut up on
[1:15:20] the on white racism on cnn or
[1:15:20] white supremacy or something
[1:15:21] like that That's his argument
[1:15:25] Hate So do your job and tell
[1:15:29] the mayor to shut up man And
[1:15:30] this is not right What he's
[1:15:34] doing.
[1:15:35] I couldn't find the number
[1:15:39] there to the other So the mayor
[1:15:40] is way out of line and tell
[1:15:43] the chicks chicks with blue
[1:15:44] hair to cool their jets at
[1:15:49] the meetings, man And we got to
[1:15:53] do a proclamation for the Garza
[1:15:54] Strip The genocide Genocide at
[1:15:58] Gaza Strip Proclamation.
[1:15:59] We need to denounce that.
[1:15:59] So okay.
[1:16:03] Thanks a lot.
[1:16:03] Next is 8700 If you can please
[1:16:04] unmute and please let me know
[1:16:05] which item or items you wish to
[1:16:10] speak to.
[1:16:10] Thank you.
[1:16:14] I will be speaking on 1 or 2 1
[1:16:15] or 3 and 5 or 5.
[1:16:15] >> Thank you.
[1:16:19] Please proceed.
[1:16:19] Thank you.
[1:16:22] 1 or 2 oh first of all here are
[1:16:25] two grant items and one
[1:16:26] donation items.
[1:16:31] So thank you for all for
[1:16:31] helping us make this a better
[1:16:32] world.
[1:16:35] 1 or 2.
[1:16:39] Yes And thank you for $1.5
[1:16:40] million grant for general fund
[1:16:44] help for wild fire prevention.
[1:16:45] It's just a great item.
[1:16:49] So love so much to the fire
[1:16:54] rescue people and their entire
[1:16:54] department.
[1:16:58] 103 Yes to accept donations
[1:16:59] from the San Diego Parks
[1:17:11] Foundation for f y 25 totaling
[1:17:12] $1,875,500.
[1:17:12] That's a wonderful funding
[1:17:16] amount And also and a big thank
[1:17:21] you to Parks and Rec and for
[1:17:22] all of the employees there and
[1:17:23] for everything you do for our
[1:17:26] wonderful parks And thank you
[1:17:31] to the donors who just love you
[1:17:32] love you a lot and we just
[1:17:35] appreciate your support And
[1:17:36] the more help you can get us is
[1:17:40] really appreciate so much.
[1:17:41] 505 Yes to accepting
[1:17:45] the highway bridge program
[1:17:49] grant and agreement Santee
[1:17:50] Irrigation District.
[1:17:54] And I'll just conclude with
[1:17:55] saying love to the entire
[1:17:56] engineering and capital
[1:18:00] projects of people for
[1:18:00] everything they do for us and
[1:18:04] wasn't the proclamation timing
[1:18:09] at the beginning of the meeting
[1:18:10] just the most beautiful spot
[1:18:13] for it to be today?
[1:18:14] It was so helpful for me and
[1:18:18] thank you so very much and
[1:18:19] we'll have a beautiful day.
[1:18:19] Love to all.
[1:18:23] Thank you.
[1:18:24] Next is Blaire Beekman.
[1:18:25] If you can please unmute and
[1:18:25] let me know which item or items
[1:18:27] you wish to speak to.
[1:18:33] Hi Player Beekman.
[1:18:34] Hold on a second.
[1:18:35] I got to when I'm up here and
[1:18:38] find my okay where I'm starting
[1:18:41] from item s final four and then
[1:18:45] items 1 to 1 one on to one of
[1:18:45] three and that's it.
[1:18:46] Thank you.
[1:18:50] Please proceed.
[1:18:50] >> Yeah.
[1:18:54] Hi, I'm Claire Beekman.
[1:18:55] >> I have been in two of these
[1:18:56] mass shootings in the San Jose
[1:19:00] area in the past ten years and
[1:19:00] or have been around and, you
[1:19:04] know, attending council
[1:19:05] meetings and getting into
[1:19:06] the work we do as a community
[1:19:10] going on to these items in our
[1:19:11] consent calendar regular agenda
[1:19:14] it can be really helpful just
[1:19:15] to see it and feel it back to
[1:19:16] seeing again and what we do
[1:19:20] well and good Look up what we
[1:19:20] can be doing well today for
[1:19:24] the Sally Ordinance for fiscal
[1:19:24] year 2027.
[1:19:28] Again, like I said earlier,
[1:19:29] good luck to the rating
[1:19:34] decreases salary decrease idea
[1:19:34] And two I just wanted to
[1:19:38] quickly add whatever you can
[1:19:39] manage you know whatever sort
[1:19:43] of cut you can take I think
[1:19:44] would make an incredibly
[1:19:45] helpful and important statement
[1:19:48] to everyone of San Diego And I
[1:19:49] think it can be really small
[1:19:50] and actually accomplish a lot
[1:19:54] because we we have good ideals
[1:19:54] and working towards good
[1:19:58] intentions and that will open
[1:19:59] our minds up to better ways of
[1:20:00] thinking and better logic is
[1:20:03] what I'm hoping for.
[1:20:04] We're set with budget issues so
[1:20:05] good luck with that And to
[1:20:11] really consider it item 101 is
[1:20:16] budget items for funding for
[1:20:17] Montgomery Gibbs Field and
[1:20:21] Brownfield airports.
[1:20:22] How is the item going?
[1:20:23] There was supposed to be kind
[1:20:26] of a after the accident at
[1:20:27] the recent airport it was
[1:20:31] really noted that there is a
[1:20:31] lack of communication between
[1:20:32] the different airports and
[1:20:35] perhaps, you know, the one
[1:20:35] airport that I know there's
[1:20:36] basic problems and and
[1:20:39] maintenance issues.
[1:20:40] How is all that communication
[1:20:44] going and maintenance upkeep is
[1:20:45] better dialog being created,
[1:20:46] better openness good luck and
[1:20:49] good luck in that effort and
[1:20:50] work with item 102 is Wildlife
[1:20:54] Wildfire funding for the Lake
[1:20:55] Hodges in San Francisco Valley
[1:20:59] area And I think you've been
[1:21:04] doing some interesting work as
[1:21:05] a community local neighborhood
[1:21:05] with the fire issues in
[1:21:08] the summertime.
[1:21:09] It's been really interesting to
[1:21:10] see that over the past year
[1:21:14] keep up that good work and to
[1:21:14] mention the Dora you know don't
[1:21:15] be afraid to have conversations
[1:21:18] about fire issues and where
[1:21:19] they come from and what exactly
[1:21:22] and where they're coming from.
[1:21:23] We need to have those
[1:21:24] conversations and about whether
[1:21:27] we can't be afraid of those
[1:21:28] conversations and that they
[1:21:29] can't be open.
[1:21:29] They can be open.
[1:21:32] Let's find ways to make open
[1:21:33] and safe conversation.
[1:21:36] And finally with Windows three
[1:21:37] Parks Foundation issues, I
[1:21:37] think we're making important
[1:21:42] strides to understand even
[1:21:42] Councilperson Bowman are just
[1:21:43] asking is there a difference
[1:21:44] between Parks Foundation
[1:21:46] funding and money that's going
[1:21:47] to the general fund at this
[1:21:47] time?
[1:21:47] It can be okay if that's
[1:21:51] happening Let's just be clear
[1:21:51] with each other about it and
[1:21:52] your time has.
[1:21:52] >> Thank you for that.
[1:21:53] Thank you.
[1:21:55] We have two speakers in
[1:21:56] the queue and the five minute
[1:21:56] timer has concluded no
[1:21:57] additional speakers will be
[1:22:00] taken.
[1:22:00] Tony if you can please unmute
[1:22:01] after that is Kathryn.
[1:22:04] Tony please let me know which
[1:22:05] item or items you wish to speak
[1:22:09] to me Yes I would like to speak
[1:22:13] to item 103 I'd like to speak
[1:22:17] to item 1 or 2 and I would like
[1:22:18] to speak to item 1 or 1 please.
[1:22:18] >> Please proceed.
[1:22:21] You have three minutes.
[1:22:21] >> Thank you.
[1:22:22] These seem like some pretty
[1:22:26] slam dunk knock out of the park
[1:22:30] resolutions here.
[1:22:30] It seems like we would just be
[1:22:31] accepting grants which I can't.
[1:22:35] I can't think of any reason why
[1:22:35] we wouldn't want to accept that
[1:22:36] money.
[1:22:39] The California Natural
[1:22:40] Resources Agency is a is a
[1:22:44] wonderful program and I think
[1:22:45] that's a fantastic grant.
[1:22:48] I'd love to see us accept that
[1:22:48] 1.5 million to support
[1:22:49] the General Fund for Wildfire
[1:22:52] Prevention activities.
[1:22:53] And again, I just want to
[1:22:57] reiterate something that I
[1:22:58] mentioned last week in Council.
[1:22:59] I hope that we are looking into
[1:23:03] strategic and how the fire
[1:23:03] department can be utilizing
[1:23:04] citrus tech in more ways.
[1:23:07] I know that they're using it in
[1:23:08] North County already and I know
[1:23:12] that the fire chief is already
[1:23:12] starting to implement it in
[1:23:13] some of his practices.
[1:23:17] So hopefully we can get
[1:23:17] acquainted with that process
[1:23:18] here as well.
[1:23:22] And then moving on to item one
[1:23:27] of three, let's see it looks
[1:23:31] like that would be awesome to
[1:23:32] receive the those donations
[1:23:34] from this for the San Diego
[1:23:44] Parks Foundation Looks like we
[1:23:49] could possibly receive up to 2
[1:23:49] million from that grant I'm
[1:23:50] reading sorry I'm just reading
[1:23:53] agenda right now So yeah
[1:23:58] hopefully we can utilize that
[1:23:58] money you know for everything
[1:24:03] that it's needed for And yeah,
[1:24:03] that's all I wanted to comment
[1:24:04] on.
[1:24:04] >> Thank you and good morning.
[1:24:05] Thank you.
[1:24:07] Katherine Rounds, if you can
[1:24:08] please unmute and let me know
[1:24:09] which item or items you wish to
[1:24:12] speak to And yes if I could
[1:24:13] speak to item as final for
[1:24:18] salary ordinance and as five of
[1:24:21] five The bridge Sure You heard
[1:24:21] those two items?
[1:24:22] >> Yes, please.
[1:24:22] Thank you.
[1:24:23] You have two minutes.
[1:24:26] Please proceed.
[1:24:27] >> Okay.
[1:24:27] Forward the salary ordinance
[1:24:27] here.
[1:24:31] It looks like you you you know
[1:24:31] did you already approve your
[1:24:36] memorandum of understanding or
[1:24:36] did you not during closed
[1:24:37] session yesterday or the other
[1:24:41] time before where people said
[1:24:41] you actually signed something?
[1:24:45] Anyway, this report here that's
[1:24:46] about a month old it said, you
[1:24:50] know, at this time it didn't
[1:24:51] say exactly what the pending
[1:24:51] salary and wage impacts are on
[1:24:55] page two of your report.
[1:24:56] So exactly how much more in
[1:25:00] salary and wages are you
[1:25:00] expecting to bring in?
[1:25:05] You know, I don't know.
[1:25:05] I think this should actually be
[1:25:06] a discussion item where we
[1:25:09] could actually get a an
[1:25:09] analysis of this.
[1:25:14] But anyway, you know what I of
[1:25:15] course go back to what I think
[1:25:16] you guys should be doing is I
[1:25:19] think you should be firing all
[1:25:19] 300 of the nonunion
[1:25:24] unclassified employees who got
[1:25:25] double and triple their pay
[1:25:28] rates compared to their regular
[1:25:29] union counterparts doing
[1:25:33] the same work in the same job
[1:25:33] description.
[1:25:34] But because they're called
[1:25:35] middle managers and they're I
[1:25:38] would say friends of Todd's or
[1:25:39] friends of somebody who somehow
[1:25:43] they get to make more money
[1:25:44] than the regular union people
[1:25:48] in our I believe our our our
[1:25:48] budget problems or structural
[1:25:53] budget deficit could be solved
[1:25:53] in part by firing all these
[1:25:57] people and then hiring back as
[1:25:58] regular union workers And you
[1:25:59] could call them managers if you
[1:26:02] want to.
[1:26:03] You just can't you know, they
[1:26:07] just have to be not the middle
[1:26:07] managers who are nonunion who
[1:26:11] have no you know, labor
[1:26:12] protections at all.
[1:26:16] And then for the El Camino real
[1:26:17] Bridge to the Via Della Valley
[1:26:21] I look forward to actually
[1:26:22] reading all about it.
[1:26:23] I didn't know about this but it
[1:26:26] seems like that would be quite
[1:26:26] lovely.
[1:26:27] Thank you.
[1:26:27] Thank you.
[1:26:28] And that concludes with a
[1:26:30] comment on the consent agenda.
[1:26:31] All right.
[1:26:31] Thank you City clerk With that
[1:26:35] will turn it over to my council
[1:26:36] colleagues for questions
[1:26:40] comments and entertain a motion
[1:26:41] and we'll start with Council
[1:26:42] member Moreno Thank you.
[1:26:45] >> I have comments on item 1 or
[1:26:46] 3 the acceptance of donations
[1:26:49] from the San Diego Park
[1:26:50] Foundation during fiscal year
[1:26:50] 2025.
[1:26:51] First and foremost I want to
[1:26:55] thank the San Diego Parks
[1:26:56] Foundation for this donation.
[1:26:56] I am pleased to see that
[1:27:00] several projects in my district
[1:27:01] receive funding through this
[1:27:05] item Enfield That laser
[1:27:06] leveling and soil improvements
[1:27:06] has been a longstanding request
[1:27:11] by the board of the Lucky Wild
[1:27:11] Little League Board at our
[1:27:14] monthly community Rec group
[1:27:15] meetings and I'm pleased to see
[1:27:16] their commitment to the park
[1:27:16] and its players being
[1:27:20] recognized And through these
[1:27:20] improvements these upgrades
[1:27:21] directly support
[1:27:24] the longstanding tradition of
[1:27:25] baseball practice in District
[1:27:26] eight and also ensures that
[1:27:29] every player has a field worthy
[1:27:30] of their hard work and passion
[1:27:34] for the game.
[1:27:34] The South Crest lighting
[1:27:35] project illuminates
[1:27:36] the pedestrian path to ensure
[1:27:39] that residents can utilize
[1:27:39] the park in the evening and
[1:27:40] increase their feeling of
[1:27:43] safety.
[1:27:44] Additionally, the illumination
[1:27:45] allows park and rec staff with
[1:27:48] the opportunity to broaden
[1:27:49] their offerings by hosting
[1:27:53] programing like soccer in
[1:27:53] the evening hours.
[1:27:54] Now with the San Isidro Larson
[1:27:56] Field Community Center being
[1:27:57] one of the most visited rec
[1:27:58] centers in San Ysidro,
[1:28:02] the installation of Retract
[1:28:02] retractable back board
[1:28:06] standards modernize
[1:28:07] the facility that is home to
[1:28:08] many families and helps support
[1:28:11] the growth in the recreational
[1:28:12] recreation, growth and
[1:28:16] recreational needs of
[1:28:16] the community.
[1:28:17] The improvement will provide
[1:28:17] hundreds of local children and
[1:28:21] families with the significant
[1:28:21] enhancement experience for
[1:28:25] their indoor basketball and
[1:28:26] sports programing.
[1:28:26] I would also like to record a
[1:28:31] no vote on item s5o4 which is
[1:28:31] the salary ordinance for fiscal
[1:28:35] year 2027.
[1:28:35] I understand that it's
[1:28:40] the intention to bring an
[1:28:40] amendment forward at a future
[1:28:41] date but as it stands today I
[1:28:45] cannot support this item in its
[1:28:45] current form.
[1:28:46] I do not believe a car
[1:28:49] allowance is an appropriate use
[1:28:54] of city resources for
[1:28:55] the mayor's d-colo and deputy
[1:28:56] chief of staff especially in
[1:28:59] light of the city facing
[1:29:00] significant fiscal challenges.
[1:29:04] So with that no vote I am happy
[1:29:09] to make a motion to support
[1:29:09] the balance of the agenda.
[1:29:10] >> Thank you.
[1:29:10] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[1:29:14] Thank you Council members.
[1:29:15] So we do have a motion by
[1:29:15] Council member Marino to move
[1:29:18] the consent items and we'll go
[1:29:23] next to myself I guess so
[1:29:24] Councilmember Foster see if I
[1:29:28] can help you out.
[1:29:29] Council PRESIDENT I guess just
[1:29:33] if I MAY if I heard you
[1:29:33] correctly, you said item 50 was
[1:29:34] sent back to staff.
[1:29:38] I did not have that in my notes
[1:29:39] is being sent back to staff.
[1:29:42] Can you let me know why it was
[1:29:43] sent back to staff?
[1:29:44] It might be something changing
[1:29:47] with the item no councilmember
[1:29:52] but with the absences on
[1:29:52] the council today we do have a
[1:29:53] technology in place that will
[1:29:57] ensure no interruption of
[1:29:57] services for that software.
[1:29:58] >> It will return sometime in
[1:29:58] JUNE.
[1:30:03] What is I'm sorry if you can
[1:30:03] clarify what do you mean by
[1:30:06] it's six vote Amazon It's a six
[1:30:07] vote item Council member okay
[1:30:10] You didn't pull the salary
[1:30:11] ordinance, correct?
[1:30:15] Not yet.
[1:30:16] >> That that's a charter
[1:30:16] requirement.
[1:30:17] That's a little stickier for us
[1:30:23] but it requires six correct?
[1:30:24] >> I believe it's a five vote
[1:30:24] item.
[1:30:24] Sorry, Is it a five?
[1:30:25] Oh, I thought it said six.
[1:30:27] Okay.
[1:30:27] All righty.
[1:30:31] With that I will second
[1:30:37] the member's motion but I would
[1:30:38] also like to register a no vote
[1:30:38] on as five vote four.
[1:30:41] So thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[1:30:41] All right.
[1:30:45] So to the city attorney,
[1:30:46] the salary ordinance is
[1:30:47] actually a charter requirement
[1:30:50] that mandates that we take
[1:30:54] action before MAY 30th.
[1:30:55] So there's six of us here.
[1:30:58] It looks like there's two no
[1:30:58] votes.
[1:30:58] Okay.
[1:31:02] What's what's next?
[1:31:03] Councilmember Assistant City
[1:31:04] Attorney Jim McNeil thanks for
[1:31:04] the question.
[1:31:07] So yes, under charter Section
[1:31:07] 11.1, the council is charged
[1:31:12] with sending the salaries by
[1:31:13] MAY 30th through the salary
[1:31:17] ordinance.
[1:31:18] If it isn't passed by then then
[1:31:18] there's some ripple effects
[1:31:21] that take place because
[1:31:22] the appropriations ordinance
[1:31:25] which was to be passed by JUNE
[1:31:26] 30th relies on the adopted
[1:31:30] budget and the salary ordinance
[1:31:30] .
[1:31:31] And so in looking at it, if
[1:31:32] it's not passed and
[1:31:35] the appropriation ordinance
[1:31:36] comes forward, we still don't
[1:31:37] have a passed salary ordinance.
[1:31:40] The appropriations ordinance
[1:31:41] would be relying on the salary
[1:31:41] ordinance from last year which
[1:31:45] means that we have an issue of
[1:31:46] trying to deal with the ammo
[1:31:47] use that are coming forward for
[1:31:51] approval by the council and
[1:31:52] being able to actually pay
[1:31:52] under those mou years at that
[1:31:55] point in time What
[1:31:56] the authorization would be for
[1:31:56] that.
[1:32:00] And then I'll add this as a
[1:32:01] second reading so we can't
[1:32:01] change the ordinance which was
[1:32:05] clarified for me because that
[1:32:06] starts to make it a first
[1:32:09] reading Then we'd have to have
[1:32:10] a second reading which we
[1:32:10] cannot do before the end of
[1:32:13] the month, correct?
[1:32:14] Council PRESIDENT So
[1:32:15] the council has already passed
[1:32:18] this once the mayor has
[1:32:19] returned it to council now it's
[1:32:19] up for its second reading.
[1:32:20] If you made any changes it
[1:32:23] would have to be a first
[1:32:24] reading and I think it's pretty
[1:32:25] clear where the council wants
[1:32:28] to make amendments But for
[1:32:29] the JUNE 16th Amendment item to
[1:32:30] incorporate the newly agreed
[1:32:34] upon mou, you can't make an
[1:32:34] amendment there if there's
[1:32:35] nothing to make amendments on
[1:32:37] If we don't pass something
[1:32:38] today there's no future
[1:32:39] decision to make.
[1:32:42] And so I think if something
[1:32:43] fails today and then we go
[1:32:44] forward with introducing a new
[1:32:44] ordinance incorporating
[1:32:48] the council's you know, desired
[1:32:48] amendments, we kind of go into
[1:32:52] uncharted territory here post
[1:32:57] JUNE basically Um I want to
[1:32:58] respect my colleagues are
[1:33:02] voting their conscience.
[1:33:03] I do know that some council
[1:33:07] members MAY show up in this
[1:33:08] afternoon session so unless
[1:33:12] there's any objection I'm going
[1:33:13] to suggest that we trail
[1:33:17] the item So you can vote
[1:33:18] the way that you feel like you
[1:33:19] need to vote And I don't know
[1:33:22] if it'll make a difference this
[1:33:23] afternoon but I know at least
[1:33:23] one more council member will be
[1:33:27] attending.
[1:33:27] So again without objection and
[1:33:32] without any protest by the city
[1:33:33] Attorney's office as I navigate
[1:33:37] new waters we will trail as
[1:33:38] 504I guess what we'll do is
[1:33:41] pull out 504 and trail it to
[1:33:45] this afternoon and so each
[1:33:46] council member can continue to
[1:33:50] vote their conscience going
[1:33:51] forward and we'll see if we can
[1:33:52] navigate the charter
[1:33:56] requirement and the ripple
[1:33:56] effect.
[1:33:57] So unless there's any objection
[1:34:02] to that, well I mean I'm on
[1:34:02] the list but I don't know if
[1:34:03] you're trailing It means we're
[1:34:06] not commenting on the item
[1:34:06] anymore.
[1:34:10] So I know while I'm I'm happy
[1:34:11] to take any comments but we
[1:34:12] clearly don't have five votes
[1:34:16] with us today or this morning.
[1:34:17] >> I guess I'd like to
[1:34:20] understand the approach from
[1:34:21] the administration bringing
[1:34:22] this item back this week
[1:34:22] recognizing that there were
[1:34:26] challenges last week and as I
[1:34:31] can tell is the response simply
[1:34:32] that there is not a willingness
[1:34:32] to make any changes and
[1:34:36] therefore I was a desire to
[1:34:37] just test the waters.
[1:34:42] I know someone count them and I
[1:34:42] appreciate the question.
[1:34:46] Pro-Tem potentially it's to
[1:34:47] second reading I can't change
[1:34:47] the item from what was
[1:34:48] originally voted on and passed
[1:34:51] by council several weeks ago
[1:34:52] and so it had to return as is.
[1:34:56] I wasn't anticipating some of
[1:34:57] the absences I guess for today
[1:34:58] and we are also out of council
[1:35:01] meetings for the rest of this
[1:35:02] month knowing that we have to
[1:35:02] have something voted on and
[1:35:05] passed by MAY 30th.
[1:35:06] If I could just interject also
[1:35:07] it's a timing issue with
[1:35:10] respect to what it's coming
[1:35:11] back for which is which is set
[1:35:12] up in this current imo this
[1:35:16] current salary ordinance is
[1:35:16] the fact that we have menus
[1:35:17] that are in process that are
[1:35:20] being approved and so it's
[1:35:21] going to have to be changed.
[1:35:22] It's noted in the salary
[1:35:23] ordinance to adapt to those
[1:35:25] employees and so it has to be
[1:35:26] brought back at that point in
[1:35:31] time for an amendment And so if
[1:35:31] you pass it now and you have
[1:35:32] commitment at the same time
[1:35:35] the ammo user brought back any
[1:35:36] of the amendments that you want
[1:35:37] can be brought back at that
[1:35:37] point in time.
[1:35:38] But in the meantime you've
[1:35:40] passed a salary ordinance in
[1:35:45] compliance with the charter and
[1:35:45] there's at least two if not
[1:35:46] three members that were
[1:35:50] anticipated to be present this
[1:35:51] morning that are not here for
[1:35:55] various personal reasons.
[1:35:56] >> I understand that.
[1:36:00] But I think implication in that
[1:36:01] front is that somehow we're
[1:36:05] here because either people are
[1:36:05] voting their conscience or
[1:36:06] because they're unable to be
[1:36:10] here for whatever reason And
[1:36:15] and frankly some I don't I
[1:36:16] don't think it's as simple as
[1:36:17] just saying our colleagues are
[1:36:21] the ones that are leading us to
[1:36:21] this position if we're just
[1:36:22] going to see the same thing
[1:36:23] brought forward over and over
[1:36:26] again and to see the same
[1:36:26] issues come up over and over
[1:36:27] again.
[1:36:27] So I understand that that we're
[1:36:31] going to argue that we can't
[1:36:32] make a change in a second
[1:36:32] reading Fine.
[1:36:33] We've made changes in second
[1:36:35] readings and brought them back
[1:36:35] for a second reading to get
[1:36:36] them approved.
[1:36:36] We knew this was a problem a
[1:36:41] week ago so I you know we can
[1:36:45] get this look as if no one
[1:36:45] cares that that's the case But
[1:36:46] I don't think that's an
[1:36:47] acceptable response from what
[1:36:50] we're seeing.
[1:36:51] Council Member If I could just
[1:36:52] again maybe I wasn't clear in
[1:36:56] terms of even if we made
[1:36:56] the change today and then
[1:36:57] brought it back to a second
[1:37:02] reading, we still have to come
[1:37:02] back and make an amendment
[1:37:03] again for the employees.
[1:37:04] And so the notion was just
[1:37:07] doing it once.
[1:37:08] I totally, totally understand
[1:37:09] that that was always the case.
[1:37:09] That's part of the process.
[1:37:10] We're going to hear this again.
[1:37:13] I think what I heard was that
[1:37:13] if all else fails and nothing
[1:37:14] happens we'll be in uncharted
[1:37:15] territory and will bring
[1:37:17] forward a new salary ordinance
[1:37:18] for consideration in that JUNE
[1:37:22] meeting Not a not a amendment
[1:37:23] to the existing one.
[1:37:24] So either way I assume
[1:37:24] something is going to get
[1:37:28] brought forward in JUNE.
[1:37:29] Where it differs from
[1:37:29] the charter I think is
[1:37:30] the issue that that we seem to
[1:37:37] be at So I have additional
[1:37:38] thoughts but I don't think is
[1:37:38] particularly relevant will
[1:37:41] trail or pull this item and
[1:37:42] bring it back this afternoon
[1:37:46] and see if there is a outcome
[1:37:47] one way or the other.
[1:37:50] >> All right.
[1:37:51] >> People continue to vote
[1:37:57] their conscience.
[1:37:58] Let's say we did have a motion
[1:38:01] by Councilmember Moreno and a
[1:38:01] second by Councilmember Foster.
[1:38:02] Was there any other comment on
[1:38:03] the consent items?
[1:38:06] I'll make?
[1:38:07] I'm not seeing any I'll make a
[1:38:10] quick comment on item one, two,
[1:38:11] three.
[1:38:11] And some of my colleagues
[1:38:16] highlighted thank you to Parks
[1:38:17] and Rec staff and the Single
[1:38:18] Parks Foundation for working
[1:38:18] together and delivering
[1:38:21] community events programs on
[1:38:21] park improvements across
[1:38:22] the city as was mentioned
[1:38:26] programs and range from
[1:38:27] the basketball backboards to
[1:38:28] summer long programs like Parks
[1:38:32] and After Dark there's all of
[1:38:33] the things and again
[1:38:33] the increased enjoyment
[1:38:34] engagement with our
[1:38:34] neighborhood parks and
[1:38:37] recreation centers as we create
[1:38:38] safe places for all San Diego.
[1:38:39] And once again thank you to
[1:38:42] the Parks Foundation and
[1:38:43] the donors for improving our
[1:38:44] parks and recreation centers.
[1:38:48] >> So we have.
[1:38:49] Item 50 was previously
[1:38:50] the Budget Committee and have
[1:38:54] been returned to staff items
[1:38:55] 504 has been pulled and will be
[1:39:00] trailed to the afternoon
[1:39:00] session But we have on
[1:39:01] the balance a motion by
[1:39:05] Councilmember Moreno and a
[1:39:05] second by Councilmember Foster.
[1:39:10] So please call the roll.
[1:39:15] This is being a bit wonky today
[1:39:15] .
[1:39:16] >> Thank you for casting your
[1:39:22] votes that passes unanimously 6
[1:39:23] to 0 with Councilmember Eli
[1:39:23] Rivera.
[1:39:24] Councilmember Campeon
[1:39:27] Councilmember Von Wilpert
[1:39:28] absent and item five of were
[1:39:28] trailed to the afternoon.
[1:39:32] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[1:39:33] right thank you City Clerk Do
[1:39:34] we have any comments by mayoral
[1:39:38] office, Council members, City
[1:39:38] attorney Independent budget
[1:39:42] analyst or city Clerk not
[1:39:43] hearing any requests We will
[1:39:48] now take up knowledge of
[1:39:49] the public comment.
[1:39:49] Council members respect and
[1:39:50] appreciate the public input are
[1:39:54] fully committed to protecting
[1:39:55] every participant's free speech
[1:39:55] rights at council and committee
[1:39:58] meetings with that clerk.
[1:39:59] >> Please proceed with public
[1:40:04] comment.
[1:40:05] Thank you Council PRESIDENT For
[1:40:06] all 2.7 on agenda Public
[1:40:06] comment is an opportunity for
[1:40:07] members of the public to
[1:40:10] comment on items that are not
[1:40:11] on the agenda but within
[1:40:12] the subject matter jurisdiction
[1:40:12] of the City Council.
[1:40:16] Each speaker will have two
[1:40:16] minutes.
[1:40:17] Please know if there are eight
[1:40:17] or more speakers on a single
[1:40:21] topic the maximum time for
[1:40:21] the topic will be 16 minutes.
[1:40:22] If you're in chambers please
[1:40:23] submit your speaker slip.
[1:40:23] If you're joining us virtually
[1:40:26] please raise your hand to speak
[1:40:27] by tapping the raise your hand
[1:40:30] icon now or the call
[1:40:31] participant Star nine Gene Wong
[1:40:32] if you can please come forward.
[1:40:41] >> You'll have two minutes for
[1:40:48] your Thank you all for having
[1:40:48] me here today.
[1:40:49] Yesterday was a very hard day
[1:40:50] and I just want to acknowledge
[1:40:52] that it's not what I'm talking
[1:40:53] about today though.
[1:40:54] Let's talk about transparency.
[1:40:58] I really thought that morning
[1:40:59] was going to be here today
[1:41:00] because apparently love that
[1:41:03] word at city hall right now
[1:41:04] Transparency, accountability
[1:41:04] and trust.
[1:41:05] So let's do that.
[1:41:10] So my question was actually for
[1:41:10] COUNCILWOMAN Marni Wilpert
[1:41:11] According to reports and a
[1:41:11] settlement agreement now
[1:41:15] publicly circulating, taxpayers
[1:41:16] paid $50,000 over disputes and
[1:41:16] controversies in more
[1:41:21] meaningful involving her former
[1:41:21] chief of staff.
[1:41:22] Our taxpayer money Our taxpayer
[1:41:27] money and allegations tied to
[1:41:27] this are not pretty.
[1:41:28] Reports and witnesses are
[1:41:28] alleging an employee was
[1:41:33] battling cancer while fired
[1:41:33] while taking care of her time
[1:41:34] off of chemotherapy.
[1:41:39] Now maybe that's not true.
[1:41:40] Maybe there's more context and
[1:41:40] I would love for her to have
[1:41:44] and I wish she was here because
[1:41:45] I would love for an opportunity
[1:41:46] to speak to this because right
[1:41:46] now the public gets stuck
[1:41:49] paying a bill while the details
[1:41:50] disappear Behind settlement
[1:41:51] language and pr cleanup You
[1:41:55] can't stand and brand yourself
[1:41:56] as a health care advocate and
[1:41:56] protector of workers while
[1:41:57] people are reading allegations
[1:42:01] that someone in your own office
[1:42:02] got pushed out while literally
[1:42:03] fighting cancer That's not
[1:42:08] working protection That's
[1:42:08] the exact kind of political
[1:42:09] behavior that people are
[1:42:09] exhausted by.
[1:42:13] And honestly this is why we've
[1:42:14] lost trust in our government.
[1:42:15] Regular people don't get golden
[1:42:15] parachutes and confidential
[1:42:20] settlements when they screw up
[1:42:20] at work.
[1:42:21] Regular people get fired.
[1:42:21] But somehow elected officials
[1:42:26] always seem to find taxpayer
[1:42:26] money when things get messy.
[1:42:27] San Diegans can barely afford
[1:42:31] groceries but somehow we can
[1:42:32] afford $50,000 settlement tied
[1:42:33] to alleged misconduct of a city
[1:42:37] council office And now she
[1:42:38] wants a promotion to Congress
[1:42:38] before asking for more power,
[1:42:43] more staff clean your own house
[1:42:44] first because transparency
[1:42:45] doesn't count when you're
[1:42:50] pointing fingers at everybody
[1:42:50] else.
[1:42:51] >> It counts when the light is
[1:42:51] on you.
[1:42:52] Thank you all so much.
[1:42:53] I appreciate you Sharrock so
[1:42:54] that if you can please come
[1:43:07] forward.
[1:43:08] Well my name is Sherry
[1:43:08] Accelerometer.
[1:43:12] I reside at 3713 Mount Ashland
[1:43:18] Place and 92111 that I brought
[1:43:18] some paperwork here with me to
[1:43:19] to lead to live here with you
[1:43:24] guys So one is a copy of
[1:43:25] the building permit for my home
[1:43:25] for the address that I just
[1:43:29] read.
[1:43:30] It was built back by a man
[1:43:30] named Harry Summers.
[1:43:35] He used a fake address for his
[1:43:35] contact information.
[1:43:36] I checked with the city permit
[1:43:37] department and there is no
[1:43:41] history for issuing a permit
[1:43:41] for 4430 Street.
[1:43:42] And I also checked with
[1:43:46] the county tax collectors.
[1:43:47] There's no history of ever
[1:43:48] collecting tax for that
[1:43:48] property.
[1:43:53] A lot of things are wrong with
[1:43:53] the house.
[1:43:54] One of them is a huge concern
[1:43:55] is a rectangular box in my
[1:43:58] garage.
[1:43:59] It's attached to the ceiling of
[1:44:00] the garage.
[1:44:04] It has eight electrical cables
[1:44:05] ,wires, a gas pipe and two
[1:44:06] water pipes inserted into
[1:44:06] the box.
[1:44:10] The box is about 8 to 10ft long
[1:44:11] and it's connected to a dock
[1:44:16] box which is connected to
[1:44:17] the furnace of the house And
[1:44:17] that dock box is connected to
[1:44:22] another dog box via a duck tube
[1:44:28] And I have pictures of those I
[1:44:29] have brought with me to leave
[1:44:35] out for the record duck box one
[1:44:36] of the duck boxes it's 100in
[1:44:38] above ground level and it
[1:44:39] stands at 33in.
[1:44:39] It doesn't have a bottom and
[1:44:44] one of the sidewalls is missing
[1:44:45] about a foot away from it is a
[1:44:45] duck tube.
[1:44:48] It's just hanging down Again
[1:44:49] it's about 100in above ground
[1:44:49] level.
[1:44:50] All of these are connected to
[1:44:55] the box and have the gas pipe
[1:44:55] leaked into it.
[1:44:59] We got this house in 1979 and
[1:45:00] as a child growing up in that
[1:45:00] house always smelled gas and
[1:45:05] frequently things of that
[1:45:05] nature.
[1:45:06] >> But the people that built
[1:45:07] the house and designed
[1:45:11] the house MAY I continue?
[1:45:12] >> No.
[1:45:12] I'm sorry your time has
[1:45:13] concluded.
[1:45:13] If you have any written
[1:45:14] comments we could definitely
[1:45:18] distribute that and we can make
[1:45:19] sure that gets into the record.
[1:45:19] I don't have to.
[1:45:20] Yes I will go down there and
[1:45:23] get it.
[1:45:24] I started the five and a timer
[1:45:24] going to those participating
[1:45:25] remotely.
[1:45:28] We currently have ten speakers
[1:45:28] in the queue Blair Beckman if
[1:45:33] you can please and you All
[1:45:39] right we're Beakman thanks for
[1:45:39] the meeting today.
[1:45:40] It's a sad time Like I said
[1:45:45] previously you know the work we
[1:45:46] do as local government, as
[1:45:51] community together it's usually
[1:45:51] a labor of love.
[1:45:52] You know we disagree on issues
[1:45:53] but now when we get into our
[1:45:57] work it's just it's we're doing
[1:45:57] our love, you know?
[1:46:02] And it's sad that this incident
[1:46:03] is happening and that the young
[1:46:08] people can better understand
[1:46:09] concepts of love in the future.
[1:46:10] I think they do have their own
[1:46:14] concept of love and it's I
[1:46:15] think probably a little out of
[1:46:15] whack And I mean we really have
[1:46:16] to learn concepts, you know,
[1:46:21] like covid 19 Somebody has some
[1:46:22] great design to do something
[1:46:26] beautiful for our humanity
[1:46:27] human future but we don't have
[1:46:28] to kill each other in order to
[1:46:28] get there.
[1:46:32] And that's an important lesson
[1:46:33] I hope we're learning.
[1:46:34] i think we've actually made
[1:46:34] strides in working on gun
[1:46:39] issues and gun violence with
[1:46:40] young people and this incident
[1:46:40] happened yesterday can be kind
[1:46:45] of an end.
[1:46:46] Hopefully we can really see it
[1:46:46] as a beginning of an end.
[1:46:47] You know, I think young people
[1:46:51] are better understanding that,
[1:46:51] you know, this is possibly
[1:46:52] going to create more violence,
[1:46:53] more you know, surveillance
[1:46:57] tech laws.
[1:46:58] Hopefully we're not going to go
[1:46:59] in that route And everybody's
[1:46:59] keeping a cool head about what
[1:47:03] to do with this time And we
[1:47:03] work on our issues.
[1:47:09] We continue the practices of
[1:47:10] love, negotiation, working
[1:47:10] together And I think we can do
[1:47:16] that on a number of issues and
[1:47:17] different parts of our
[1:47:17] community or religious
[1:47:18] communities of San Diego.
[1:47:21] It's really a time in in
[1:47:22] figuring out the ways how we
[1:47:23] can work together And I think
[1:47:24] there is good ways and good
[1:47:27] luck how we can be doing that.
[1:47:28] Thanks for the meeting today.
[1:47:29] Thanks for the words of Tony
[1:47:29] and other people that we're
[1:47:34] trying to be helpful and
[1:47:34] constructive and hopefully
[1:47:35] those good voices won't be
[1:47:36] marginalized and heard at this
[1:47:39] time.
[1:47:39] Thank you.
[1:47:40] Next is Conner Conner.
[1:47:46] If you can please.
[1:47:47] I mean after that will be
[1:47:47] Catherine's and pick you up.
[1:47:48] Oh, thank you.
[1:47:50] Clark, this is Conner from
[1:47:51] District three.
[1:47:52] I want to start by offering my
[1:47:55] condolences to the families of
[1:47:56] the three individuals who were
[1:47:57] killed yesterday in yet another
[1:47:57] act of violence, hatred or
[1:48:01] harassment against members of
[1:48:02] the Muslim and Jewish
[1:48:03] communities in this city and
[1:48:07] across the country more broadly
[1:48:07] We've heard testimony from
[1:48:08] members of those communities at
[1:48:09] city council meetings in
[1:48:09] the past and some of the things
[1:48:13] we've heard are just truly
[1:48:14] horrific And when left
[1:48:15] unchecked, I'm afraid that can
[1:48:15] lead to events like what
[1:48:20] occurred yesterday.
[1:48:21] Now it's gotten exponentially
[1:48:22] worse since OCTOBER 7th And
[1:48:22] the cause war MAY be a conflict
[1:48:25] that's occurring halfway across
[1:48:26] the world but we're feeling
[1:48:26] the repercussions of it here at
[1:48:27] home.
[1:48:27] I genuinely believe that each
[1:48:31] additional dollar that we add
[1:48:32] of American taxpayer money to
[1:48:32] this conflict makes things
[1:48:36] worse and not better.
[1:48:37] And in that respect I do want
[1:48:38] to express my disappointment
[1:48:38] although I don't think she's
[1:48:44] here with the council member
[1:48:44] from District five for
[1:48:45] accepting an endorsement from
[1:48:45] the mfi.
[1:48:49] This is of course an
[1:48:50] organization that is calling
[1:48:50] for yet another multi year
[1:48:55] multibillion dollar mou of
[1:48:56] the us sending military
[1:48:56] assistance to the state of
[1:48:56] Israel.
[1:49:01] And again I really think this
[1:49:01] is going to make things worse
[1:49:02] and not better.
[1:49:03] I would encourage her to
[1:49:03] reconsider her position on that
[1:49:07] issue To the Council more
[1:49:07] broadly I would encourage
[1:49:08] members to consider what they
[1:49:09] can personally do to help fix
[1:49:13] the broken poisonous political
[1:49:14] culture of this country to help
[1:49:18] lower the temperature and to
[1:49:19] allow us to have robust,
[1:49:20] meaningful, productive debates
[1:49:20] on issues that are really
[1:49:24] important and that need to be
[1:49:25] discussed without it careening
[1:49:30] off into hatred, invective and
[1:49:31] in potentially up to the loss
[1:49:32] of life like we saw.
[1:49:32] We can't afford to continue
[1:49:33] with the status quo.
[1:49:36] We can't afford to have more
[1:49:37] people more innocent people die
[1:49:38] overseas and in our own
[1:49:43] community here at home And I
[1:49:44] would encourage council members
[1:49:44] to consider what they could do
[1:49:45] to help curb some of that.
[1:49:45] Thank you.
[1:49:50] Thank you.
[1:49:50] Next is Katherine Rhodes and
[1:49:51] after that is Becky Rep
[1:49:51] Katherine Rhodes.
[1:49:54] Please email.
[1:49:55] >> Hello, this is Katherine
[1:49:56] Rhodes, our council PRESIDENT
[1:49:56] Joe LaCava.
[1:50:01] Mary Todd Gloria the city
[1:50:01] attorney and the rb working
[1:50:02] with expedia.Com and or other
[1:50:06] online travel companies to
[1:50:07] undermine the City Council and
[1:50:08] the Rules Committee by not
[1:50:12] allowing the public hearing to
[1:50:13] repatriate the 20% to 34%
[1:50:18] amounting to 77 244 million
[1:50:23] existing transit occupancy tax
[1:50:23] revenue from national and
[1:50:24] international online travel
[1:50:29] companies to the city's general
[1:50:34] fund City Council District two
[1:50:35] candidate Mandy Havlik The My
[1:50:36] Transit I can see tax reform
[1:50:37] ballot measures that were to be
[1:50:40] heard at the upcoming
[1:50:41] Wednesday, MAY 20th, 2026 Rules
[1:50:45] Committee hearing at 9 A.M.
[1:50:49] They also included four other
[1:50:50] ballot measures from city
[1:50:50] council members.
[1:50:56] Now none of us are having a
[1:50:56] hearing on Wednesday because
[1:50:57] they want to sabotage or
[1:51:01] hearings and I think it's just
[1:51:01] terrible.
[1:51:02] So anyway, on MAY 11th we
[1:51:03] received an email from city
[1:51:08] Council PRESIDENT Joe
[1:51:08] McCarthy's office stating that
[1:51:09] we are kicked off the Rules
[1:51:10] Committee's agenda and no
[1:51:13] longer involved in presenting
[1:51:14] our tort reform ballot measures
[1:51:14] to the Rules Committee or
[1:51:15] the City Council.
[1:51:19] Then Joe LaCava by myself
[1:51:20] without the rest of the Rules
[1:51:20] Committee or the full city
[1:51:21] council will be deciding
[1:51:22] the fate of our tort reform
[1:51:26] ballot measures that can delete
[1:51:27] the city's structural budget
[1:51:27] deficit by spreading
[1:51:28] the wealth.
[1:51:31] So what I'm asking for now is
[1:51:32] one of you other city council
[1:51:33] members here to send this to
[1:51:37] the city attorney You can
[1:51:38] during on agenda public comment
[1:51:39] you can still refer things to
[1:51:39] the city attorney or to
[1:51:43] the mayor to the idea.
[1:51:44] So I'm asking you to send it to
[1:51:45] the city attorney Any idea this
[1:51:49] is a question of leadership.
[1:51:50] So anyway, is it possible that
[1:51:50] Joe LaCava is being influenced
[1:51:56] by online travel companies,
[1:51:56] Expedia.Com or others to
[1:51:57] sabotage Trump has concluded
[1:52:03] Becky Rob if can please a new
[1:52:03] after that is Tony and then
[1:52:04] 8700 like you wrote.
[1:52:08] >> Good afternoon My name is
[1:52:09] Becky and I'm here today to ask
[1:52:09] the city to prioritize
[1:52:10] enforcement against illegal
[1:52:14] trade on flavored tobacco sales
[1:52:14] and intoxicating hemp products
[1:52:15] happening and selling openly
[1:52:19] across our neighborhoods.
[1:52:20] One neighboring city Oceanside
[1:52:26] is actively enforcing law.
[1:52:26] According to recent reports,
[1:52:27] the police and code enforcement
[1:52:30] sees one 6300 prohibited
[1:52:30] products during one operation
[1:52:31] alone under their municipal
[1:52:36] code Every violation can be
[1:52:37] treated as a separate offense
[1:52:37] and each day the violation
[1:52:38] continues can create additional
[1:52:42] penalties.
[1:52:43] Businesses are reportedly
[1:52:44] facing hundreds of thousands of
[1:52:44] dollars in fines.
[1:52:48] Meanwhile, San Diego we have
[1:52:49] smoke shops selling flavored
[1:52:49] vapes illegal nicotine
[1:52:54] products, creative extracts and
[1:52:55] high potency substances with
[1:52:56] little to no oversight.
[1:53:00] Our penalties are minimal and
[1:53:00] many businesses simply treat
[1:53:01] them as a cost of doing
[1:53:01] business.
[1:53:05] It's San Diego has roughly 200
[1:53:06] smoke shops and enforcement
[1:53:09] officers seized just 100
[1:53:10] illegal products from each
[1:53:11] location at a penalty of 500
[1:53:11] per illegal item.
[1:53:15] The city could potentially
[1:53:16] collect $10 million in fines.
[1:53:17] That estimate does not even
[1:53:21] account for repeat violations,
[1:53:22] daily penalties or the sheer
[1:53:23] volume of products Many of
[1:53:23] these stores appear to be
[1:53:28] selling at a time when the city
[1:53:29] is constantly discussing budget
[1:53:29] shortfalls, cuts to services
[1:53:34] and limited resources.
[1:53:34] Why are we ignoring laws
[1:53:35] already in place that could
[1:53:39] both protect public health and
[1:53:40] generate substantial revenue
[1:53:41] for enforcement and prevention
[1:53:41] efforts?
[1:53:45] I urge this Council to direct
[1:53:46] Code Enforcement and San Diego
[1:53:47] Police Department to prioritize
[1:53:51] inspections of smoke shops,
[1:53:52] strengthen penalties for repeat
[1:53:52] offenders and begin treating
[1:53:57] these violations seriously.
[1:53:58] Thank you.
[1:54:03] Tell me if we complete a new
[1:54:04] then 8700 and the Madison.
[1:54:05] The five minute timer also did
[1:54:09] conclude there were nine
[1:54:10] speakers of the queue at that
[1:54:11] point eight speakers in
[1:54:11] the queue.
[1:54:12] Now no additional speakers will
[1:54:12] be taken.
[1:54:15] Tony, please proceed.
[1:54:15] Yes?
[1:54:16] Can you hear me?
[1:54:16] Yes.
[1:54:17] Hey, good morning.
[1:54:20] City Council.
[1:54:21] What I have to say is going to
[1:54:22] sound really harsh but it needs
[1:54:26] to be said.
[1:54:27] Some of you have blood on your
[1:54:28] hands as a result of
[1:54:28] yesterday's incident.
[1:54:32] You were warned several months
[1:54:33] ago that the hra definition of
[1:54:33] anti-Semitism was woefully
[1:54:39] inadequate, that it did not
[1:54:40] protect our brothers and
[1:54:40] sisters in the Muslim community
[1:54:44] in the Islamic community.
[1:54:45] You were warned and you were
[1:54:46] told that the hrc definition of
[1:54:51] anti-Semitism needed to include
[1:54:51] those members of the community.
[1:54:52] Stephen Whitburn You had ample
[1:54:56] opportunity to take that
[1:54:56] definition back to your office
[1:54:57] and work on it as was asked you
[1:55:02] by Sean Eli Rivera.
[1:55:03] You chose not to and the rest
[1:55:04] of you chose to be cowards and
[1:55:08] vote for something
[1:55:08] The ultimately does not protect
[1:55:09] all of the people of San Diego
[1:55:10] in giving preference to
[1:55:14] the Jewish community over our
[1:55:14] Muslim and Islamic community.
[1:55:20] You have shown that you that
[1:55:21] you are biased in favor of
[1:55:21] Zionists and favor of Israel
[1:55:25] which is currently dragging us
[1:55:26] into war with Iran which is
[1:55:27] currently bombing Lebanon which
[1:55:28] is currently putting us in such
[1:55:32] a precarious position all over
[1:55:33] the world with this draconian
[1:55:38] disastrous foreign policy that
[1:55:39] for you all to accept it, that
[1:55:40] for you all to protect
[1:55:43] the Jewish people and not
[1:55:44] protect any other people of
[1:55:45] Semitic background is shameful
[1:55:49] and it's contributing to what
[1:55:50] happened yesterday.
[1:55:50] And guess what?
[1:55:51] The fact that Chief of Police
[1:55:55] Scott Wall is claiming to Alper
[1:55:56] could have been utilized or was
[1:55:57] utilized yesterday to prevent
[1:56:01] this from happening is a
[1:56:02] shameful blatant lie.
[1:56:03] These kids were out for two
[1:56:03] hours.
[1:56:07] The police knew that they were
[1:56:08] out and that they had weapons,
[1:56:09] that they had stolen a vehicle
[1:56:09] and they weren't stopped.
[1:56:14] How's that for a response time
[1:56:14] ?
[1:56:15] >> How is that serving and
[1:56:15] protecting our community?
[1:56:16] Shame on all of you.
[1:56:20] Do better.
[1:56:21] >> Next is 8700 If you can
[1:56:24] please unmute 8700 and then
[1:56:24] I'll be Madison.
[1:56:31] >> Thank you, Joy.
[1:56:31] Senator.
[1:56:32] Before I start I just want to
[1:56:32] say this.
[1:56:39] Council Member Foster Third
[1:56:39] thank you for these three words
[1:56:44] and I like the order of them.
[1:56:44] i don't know if you meant that.
[1:56:49] Loving learning and accepting.
[1:56:50] That's what I had to do just
[1:56:50] then.
[1:56:55] Okay.
[1:56:56] So I'm going to talk about
[1:56:57] the structural budget deficit.
[1:57:01] The speed.
[1:57:02] So I'm going to say words that
[1:57:07] were spoken by people.
[1:57:08] I'll start with the idea.
[1:57:13] They said critical to align
[1:57:13] ongoing expenses with ongoing
[1:57:19] revenue to provide stability
[1:57:19] and restore public trust.
[1:57:20] Given.
[1:57:26] It's so vital that quote from
[1:57:27] the Department of Finance these
[1:57:31] are those very recent staff
[1:57:32] report.
[1:57:32] As the city continues to
[1:57:37] address the structural budget
[1:57:37] deficit, the importance of
[1:57:43] maintaining cash reserves to
[1:57:44] strengthen the city's fiscal
[1:57:48] position and effectively manage
[1:57:49] potential future economic
[1:57:49] downturns.
[1:57:55] As you never repeat that has
[1:57:56] never been more critical to end
[1:57:57] of quote.
[1:58:01] Now this This is for me so I
[1:58:07] can't get why we can't get a
[1:58:08] handle on this core issue of
[1:58:13] the structural budget deficit.
[1:58:14] I think it's 20 to 30 years old
[1:58:18] now and I just don't get it.
[1:58:19] All of you are extremely
[1:58:20] intelligent.
[1:58:20] You love your constituents.
[1:58:25] I'm sure.
[1:58:26] And you get it.
[1:58:26] You get the structural budget
[1:58:27] deficit and you bring it all
[1:58:31] here in there.
[1:58:32] >> You put it all the time
[1:58:37] because my apologies metaphors
[1:58:38] .
[1:58:38] >> Our next speaker after that
[1:58:39] is Hector.
[1:58:39] i thank you.
[1:58:40] Today I want to address
[1:58:43] the growing public safety
[1:58:44] impact of marijuana
[1:58:44] commercialization, especially
[1:58:45] on impaired driving.
[1:58:49] A new bipartisan transportation
[1:58:50] bill in Congress would require
[1:58:50] federal agencies to develop
[1:58:56] evidence based impairment
[1:58:56] standards for marijuana and
[1:58:57] other drugs while also
[1:59:00] investing more than $100
[1:59:01] million into better crash data
[1:59:01] collection, toxicology testing
[1:59:07] and impaired driving prevention
[1:59:07] research.
[1:59:08] That should tell us something
[1:59:09] important at the federal level.
[1:59:12] Leaders from both parties
[1:59:13] recognize that marijuana
[1:59:14] impairment on our roads is a
[1:59:18] serious and unresolved issue.
[1:59:19] Unlike alcohol, there is still
[1:59:20] no universally accepted
[1:59:20] standard for marijuana
[1:59:21] impairment.
[1:59:25] Yet communities like San Diego
[1:59:26] continue expanding access,
[1:59:31] normalization and visibility of
[1:59:31] high potency marijuana
[1:59:32] products.
[1:59:32] Meanwhile, families share
[1:59:33] the roads every day with
[1:59:37] drivers who MAY be impaired by
[1:59:38] marijuana or multiple
[1:59:38] substances combined.
[1:59:39] Federal transportation
[1:59:39] officials themselves recently
[1:59:44] stated that marijuana use is
[1:59:44] not compatible with safety
[1:59:45] sensitive functions.
[1:59:50] Airline pilots, truck drivers
[1:59:50] and other transportation
[1:59:51] workers are still prohibited
[1:59:52] from using it because the risks
[1:59:56] are real.
[1:59:56] As our city discusses public
[1:59:57] health, transportation safety
[2:00:02] and well-being, I urge you to
[2:00:03] take these warnings seriously.
[2:00:03] We should not move faster on
[2:00:08] marijuana normalization than
[2:00:09] the science and safety
[2:00:09] standards can keep up with.
[2:00:10] Parents should not have to
[2:00:14] wonder whether the driver next
[2:00:14] to their child's school bus or
[2:00:15] crosswalk is impaired.
[2:00:16] Please prioritize policies that
[2:00:20] protect public safety.
[2:00:21] Support prevention, education
[2:00:22] and recognize the very real
[2:00:26] consequences of impaired
[2:00:27] driving on San Diego families.
[2:00:27] Thank you.
[2:00:28] Thank you.
[2:00:28] Thank you.
[2:00:31] If you can please unmute after
[2:00:38] that will be 7499.
[2:00:38] Can you hear me?
[2:00:38] Yes.
[2:00:39] Please proceed.
[2:00:39] Oh yeah.
[2:00:40] Thanks for taking my call.
[2:00:43] Yeah I was thinking about those
[2:00:44] license plates readers and I
[2:00:49] live up on top of Mission
[2:00:50] Valley where those fires were.
[2:00:51] And if I go to Ralphs down
[2:00:51] the hill about a mile and a
[2:00:55] half away, I passed through
[2:00:56] like five cameras for license
[2:00:57] plate readers and it's no
[2:01:01] problem with me.
[2:01:02] And I'd say maybe the mass of
[2:01:02] the churches have got to get
[2:01:07] some license plate readers of
[2:01:08] their own arts or eat up to
[2:01:08] the system.
[2:01:09] I wouldn't be against it.
[2:01:13] I know everyone's worried about
[2:01:13] with the immigration thing
[2:01:14] going on with that but it looks
[2:01:18] like we passed the mark and
[2:01:18] then I don't know how anyone
[2:01:19] could beef up their place
[2:01:25] better than those guys did
[2:01:25] already The Muslim guys You
[2:01:26] know I had our guard right
[2:01:30] there as a big dude You just
[2:01:35] can't dispense everything but
[2:01:36] one thing in the neighborhood.
[2:01:37] I talked to a guy who used to
[2:01:37] house up there.
[2:01:38] There is a beef in
[2:01:41] the neighborhood about
[2:01:42] the parking like all the Muslim
[2:01:43] guys parked there on Friday and
[2:01:47] they take up all the parking
[2:01:48] spaces and all
[2:01:48] the neighborhood's kind of in a
[2:01:53] bad way And he didn't like it
[2:01:53] and he was worried about
[2:01:54] they're going to put the call a
[2:01:59] prayer out and he was like
[2:02:00] really incensed about that.
[2:02:01] He did what the Muslim guys
[2:02:01] have in the court prayer but
[2:02:05] there could be a beef in
[2:02:06] the neighborhood.
[2:02:07] I think there is a beef that
[2:02:12] they take up the parking they
[2:02:12] might need to build a parking
[2:02:13] lot.
[2:02:13] There's a parking lot right in
[2:02:14] front of them by the freeway
[2:02:17] that could build like a five
[2:02:18] story parking garage right
[2:02:18] there and have a walkway over
[2:02:23] to their mosque that would kind
[2:02:24] of alleviate that or the city
[2:02:25] can work with them And but you
[2:02:30] know, that's no reason to do
[2:02:30] what they did.
[2:02:31] But we have to get all
[2:02:34] the facts, get the guns, get
[2:02:35] the letters before we give our
[2:02:36] opinion about why it happened.
[2:02:42] But good luck by next 27499 if
[2:02:43] you can please on mute And then
[2:02:50] after that Jerry and Kelly Bob
[2:02:51] because this guy here I'd like
[2:02:51] to start off by thanking City
[2:02:52] Clerk Fuentes for a truly
[2:02:56] remarkable citizen support over
[2:02:57] the last few days and weeks.
[2:02:57] I had originally complained
[2:02:58] about not being able to bring
[2:03:02] media to council on thumb drive
[2:03:03] and it appears that City Clerk
[2:03:04] Fuentes has resolve that issue.
[2:03:08] Thanks and good job.
[2:03:09] City Clerk Fuentes and Matthew
[2:03:09] Hilario have also been
[2:03:10] extremely responsive to email
[2:03:14] requests, even responding late
[2:03:15] in the evening and on weekends
[2:03:16] to help me track down a few
[2:03:20] city documents.
[2:03:20] Good job again.
[2:03:21] Having said that, however, I'm
[2:03:22] increasingly concerned about
[2:03:26] the outsourcing of the city's
[2:03:27] public services to private
[2:03:27] businesses.
[2:03:28] I don't think citizens should
[2:03:32] be forced to interact with
[2:03:33] private businesses such as
[2:03:33] Highland Cloud or next request
[2:03:38] or constant contact in order to
[2:03:39] obtain basic information and
[2:03:39] services from the city.
[2:03:40] I am particularly disturbed to
[2:03:44] hear that the city's entire
[2:03:44] municipal code and council
[2:03:45] resolution systems and possibly
[2:03:49] others MAY be contracted out to
[2:03:50] private businesses later this
[2:03:50] summer.
[2:03:51] I believe that all of the city
[2:03:55] support for citizens should be
[2:03:56] direct without any third party
[2:03:56] gatekeepers involved.
[2:04:01] The city is certainly welcome
[2:04:02] to hire contractors who provide
[2:04:03] services within the city's
[2:04:03] infrastructure but it is
[2:04:08] disturbing to see cities and
[2:04:09] have to go to third party
[2:04:09] vendors and third party
[2:04:10] websites to get basic city
[2:04:14] services and resources.
[2:04:15] I ask the mayor, city clerk and
[2:04:16] this council to please
[2:04:20] reconsider and reverse this
[2:04:21] disturbing trend.
[2:04:21] And as always I am again asking
[2:04:26] the city and this means you Joe
[2:04:27] LaCava to reactivate the Torrey
[2:04:28] Pines City Park Advisory Board
[2:04:31] and implement a flight waiver
[2:04:32] system similar to the one
[2:04:32] that's been in use in Los
[2:04:33] Angeles since 2017.
[2:04:38] That's another example where
[2:04:39] city resources have been turned
[2:04:39] over to a private commercial
[2:04:40] business at the public's
[2:04:40] expense.
[2:04:44] Shame on you Joe Lacob and
[2:04:45] shame on every member of this
[2:04:46] council for ignoring this
[2:04:46] problem for decades.
[2:04:50] Thank you.
[2:04:51] >> Thank you.
[2:04:51] Next is Gerry and Scully.
[2:04:56] If you can please unmute.
[2:04:56] >> Good afternoon City and City
[2:05:01] City Council Chair LaCava.
[2:05:02] As a community volunteer with
[2:05:02] our youth afterschool programs
[2:05:03] I feel like my observations
[2:05:07] regarding city decisions that
[2:05:08] support them are important.
[2:05:09] How a city treats its most
[2:05:14] vulnerable members reveals its
[2:05:15] true nature Or as it can be
[2:05:15] stated the way a society cares
[2:05:19] for and protects its total is a
[2:05:20] strong indicator of its overall
[2:05:25] morality, values and level of
[2:05:25] civilization.
[2:05:26] So thank you for making it
[2:05:26] possible for a parent and
[2:05:31] community volunteer like me to
[2:05:32] speak virtually what we work in
[2:05:32] youth programs.
[2:05:33] Recently the California
[2:05:37] Department of Public Health
[2:05:38] wrote that suicide is
[2:05:38] the second leading cause of
[2:05:39] death among adolescents and
[2:05:44] young adults aged 15 to 24.
[2:05:45] Teen and young adult mental
[2:05:50] health is a complex situation.
[2:05:51] However, the risks of today's
[2:05:51] high potency thc marijuana
[2:05:56] products must never be
[2:05:56] overlooked for its role in
[2:06:02] generating suicide ideation.
[2:06:02] Hopefully our city council can
[2:06:03] be counted among those trusted
[2:06:08] adults who are concerned about
[2:06:08] the harmful effects of its
[2:06:09] sales and consumption and not
[2:06:14] enlarge the footprint of
[2:06:14] marijuana storefronts in our
[2:06:15] city.
[2:06:15] Now will be a great time to
[2:06:20] reduce the pot businesses
[2:06:20] impact on our youth with its
[2:06:21] predatory advertising and
[2:06:25] billboards and remove them.
[2:06:26] Thank you for hearing my
[2:06:27] concerns this afternoon.
[2:06:30] Thank you.
[2:06:31] >> Judy Strang If you can
[2:06:36] please unmute.
[2:06:36] >> Judy Strang again for you.
[2:06:37] There you go.
[2:06:43] Hi, Good afternoon.
[2:06:43] How is difficult to call in
[2:06:44] from my work site?
[2:06:49] I wanted to share a stream of
[2:06:50] thought that I had when I read
[2:06:50] the Wall Street Journal article
[2:06:54] this morning that talked about
[2:06:55] the role of allergies in health
[2:06:55] care and employment and health
[2:07:00] costs and pointed out that for
[2:07:01] allergies related to food that
[2:07:02] there's an admittance into our
[2:07:06] health care our hospitals once
[2:07:06] every three minutes.
[2:07:12] I did a little research more on
[2:07:13] allergies and I'm well
[2:07:14] acquainted I think as many of
[2:07:14] you are with the role that
[2:07:18] allergies plays and health care
[2:07:19] costs and miserable living
[2:07:19] experiences.
[2:07:25] I might also add.
[2:07:25] And I pointed out that
[2:07:26] secondhand smoke and vape is a
[2:07:30] serious trigger for allergies.
[2:07:31] And it goes on to point out
[2:07:32] that what happens is it
[2:07:37] triggers the immune system, our
[2:07:37] individual immune systems to
[2:07:38] react and in doing so it can
[2:07:43] inflame our nasal passages and
[2:07:43] airways.
[2:07:44] It can lower the threshold for
[2:07:44] other allergens to bother us
[2:07:49] even more And it causes a sort
[2:07:50] of sensitization that in
[2:07:55] childhood can lead to asthma.
[2:07:56] I got to looking at our
[2:07:57] policies here at the city and
[2:08:01] many of us have asked you about
[2:08:02] smoke free public places and
[2:08:02] smoke free.
[2:08:07] And I thought Chromecast
[2:08:07] perspective this has got to be
[2:08:08] anything that would lower our
[2:08:13] city's citizens allergic
[2:08:14] reaction that they can have a
[2:08:14] second hand smoke and they
[2:08:19] would deeply decrease the cost
[2:08:19] of our health services, our
[2:08:20] hospital cost and improve
[2:08:21] the quality of life for
[2:08:26] everyone around us.
[2:08:27] So perhaps this is a way to
[2:08:27] save ourselves some money.
[2:08:28] It's not one you'll see
[2:08:33] automatically but it's
[2:08:33] certainly one that will happen.
[2:08:34] >> Thank you.
[2:08:34] Thank you.
[2:08:35] And our final speaker is Peggy
[2:08:35] Walker.
[2:08:38] If you can please unmute.
[2:08:38] >> Thank you.
[2:08:39] Good afternoon and thank you
[2:08:44] for your compassionate remarks
[2:08:45] this morning.
[2:08:45] I came today to acknowledge
[2:08:50] that Sun is not its world No
[2:08:50] Tobacco Day.
[2:08:51] In light of that observation
[2:08:52] which calls attention to
[2:08:56] Smokey's smoking devastating
[2:08:57] health and environmental
[2:08:57] impacts.
[2:09:01] I want to congratulate the city
[2:09:02] attorney's office and law
[2:09:03] enforcement for recent actions
[2:09:07] against smoke shops selling
[2:09:08] hemp and marijuana products
[2:09:09] without a license.
[2:09:09] Snapshots, gas stations and
[2:09:14] other small convenience stores
[2:09:15] have become exceptionally bold
[2:09:15] in selling what's called gas
[2:09:16] station.
[2:09:20] We products like Delta eight
[2:09:21] Vapes and thc infused beverages
[2:09:26] without a license.
[2:09:26] As noted earlier, some also
[2:09:31] sell prohibited flavored vapes
[2:09:32] and unregulated mushroom kratom
[2:09:37] and nitrous oxide products that
[2:09:38] can be highly addictive.
[2:09:39] These are often hidden in
[2:09:44] backrooms which makes ongoing
[2:09:44] undercover compliance checks
[2:09:45] especially critical.
[2:09:50] Prohibited flavored tobacco is
[2:09:50] timely and the fda in a
[2:09:55] controversial move just
[2:09:56] approved two fruit flavored
[2:09:57] nicotine vapes for adult users.
[2:10:01] The fda called this neither
[2:10:02] quote approval nor endorsement.
[2:10:02] I bring it to your attention
[2:10:08] because the fda's action does
[2:10:08] not mean flavored tobacco
[2:10:13] products can be sold locally
[2:10:14] flavored tobacco remains banned
[2:10:14] in California and we're assured
[2:10:20] fda authorized action does not
[2:10:20] override state or local
[2:10:21] prohibitions.
[2:10:25] Please remain vigilant in
[2:10:26] helping kids keep tobacco free
[2:10:32] and keeping unauthorized and
[2:10:32] intoxicating tobacco products
[2:10:33] off store shelves.
[2:10:39] Thank you for your attention.
[2:10:39] Thank you.
[2:10:40] That does include knowledge on
[2:10:41] the public comment for today's
[2:10:41] meeting.
[2:10:41] All right.
[2:10:42] Thank you.
[2:10:44] City clerk.
[2:10:44] We will now adjourned for
[2:10:45] the noon recess and reconvene
[2:10:46] in open session at 2 P.M. Or
[2:10:46] shortly thereafter.
[2:19:26] And
[2:21:06] if you
[2:23:05] don't
[2:27:31] already
[2:27:31] .
[2:27:36] >> Good afternoon.
[2:27:37] >> I will now reconvene
[2:27:38] the city council meeting of
[2:27:39] Tuesday, MAY 19th, 2026.
[2:27:43] Clerk Please call the roll.
[2:27:43] Thank you.
[2:27:44] Council PRESIDENT Council
[2:27:44] Member Campbell.
[2:27:45] Councilmember Whitburn
[2:27:50] Councilmember Foster Councilor
[2:27:51] Von Weber Council PRESIDENT Pro
[2:27:56] Tem Lee here Councilmember
[2:27:56] Campos here.
[2:27:57] Councilmember Moreno present
[2:27:57] Councilmember Isla Rivera and
[2:28:01] Council PRESIDENT Other
[2:28:02] present.
[2:28:02] Also attending the meeting are
[2:28:03] City Attorney Leslie
[2:28:03] Fitzgerald, independent budget
[2:28:07] analyst Charles Moraga, Council
[2:28:07] Affairs Advisor in the Mayor's
[2:28:08] office, code advisor and myself
[2:28:09] your City Clerk Thank you
[2:28:09] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:28:12] >> All right.
[2:28:13] Thank you, City Clerk.
[2:28:14] Quorum is now present.
[2:28:18] As a reminder from announcement
[2:28:19] made this morning items 330 and
[2:28:23] item f503 have been returned to
[2:28:24] staff and will not be heard
[2:28:30] this afternoon again that's
[2:28:31] items 330 and item f five all
[2:28:31] three return to staff will not
[2:28:35] be heard today before we get on
[2:28:40] with item 331 we have a little
[2:28:40] bit of unfinished business from
[2:28:41] this morning.
[2:28:47] Clerk please introduce item 504
[2:28:47] which was trailed from this
[2:28:48] morning's consent agenda.
[2:28:52] Thank you.
[2:28:53] Item s5o4 is the salary
[2:28:53] ordinance for fiscal year 2027.
[2:28:58] Public comment was taken on
[2:28:59] this during the morning
[2:28:59] session.
[2:29:00] >> Thank you.
[2:29:00] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:29:01] All right.
[2:29:01] Thank you.
[2:29:05] So item five four of the clerk
[2:29:08] indicated is the second reading
[2:29:09] for the salary ordinance.
[2:29:10] We did take public comment on
[2:29:15] this this morning.
[2:29:16] There is no need for a
[2:29:16] presentation.
[2:29:17] I think the council all
[2:29:20] understands and recalls this
[2:29:21] item.
[2:29:22] So I'm going to move item as
[2:29:25] five of four to kick things off
[2:29:26] as a purely procedural item
[2:29:27] which doesn't actually fund
[2:29:32] anything or allocate
[2:29:33] appropriate any dollars or set
[2:29:34] a budget but as a procedural
[2:29:38] thing mandated by the charter.
[2:29:39] So I will put a motion on
[2:29:43] the floor to approve item 5 or
[2:29:44] 4 and turn over to my
[2:29:47] colleagues questions Comments
[2:29:48] Looking for a second
[2:29:48] Councilmember Campbell.
[2:29:49] >> I will be all right.
[2:30:03] I'd like to just say that okay
[2:30:03] .
[2:30:10] >> This is who was it who set
[2:30:11] the laws and as I think was it
[2:30:11] Shakespeare?
[2:30:14] This is this is one of those
[2:30:15] deals where because of dates in
[2:30:20] the charter we have to do
[2:30:21] certain procedures by a certain
[2:30:21] time.
[2:30:26] However, it is my understanding
[2:30:32] that in the further revisions
[2:30:32] of the budget to come there
[2:30:37] will be amendments to this such
[2:30:38] that the Council last week had
[2:30:44] had given its information as to
[2:30:44] how we felt about a certain
[2:30:50] part of this and my
[2:30:50] understanding was that we had
[2:30:56] been promised promised.
[2:30:57] We have been assured by
[2:30:57] the administration that that
[2:31:02] particular item would be
[2:31:03] considered and put in there to
[2:31:08] meet what we expected in
[2:31:09] the final version And so
[2:31:09] therefore I'm happy to second
[2:31:10] it.
[2:31:15] I'm happy to meet the legally
[2:31:16] required dates and I will be in
[2:31:20] favor of it today.
[2:31:21] >> Thank you.
[2:31:21] All right.
[2:31:22] Thank you.
[2:31:22] Councilmember Campbell Good.
[2:31:27] I got a little ahead of myself.
[2:31:28] Did you want to speak to what
[2:31:29] I'm referring to?
[2:31:29] Yeah.
[2:31:30] Thank you, Counsel Present And
[2:31:32] to follow up on Councilmember
[2:31:33] Campbell's comments.
[2:31:33] Yes.
[2:31:34] You have the commitment of this
[2:31:34] administration to modify and
[2:31:38] reduce the car allowances.
[2:31:39] I realize this has been a
[2:31:42] frustrating process over
[2:31:43] the last two weeks.
[2:31:44] I realize there are pieces in
[2:31:44] here that do not have
[2:31:45] the support of this council.
[2:31:49] I am limited in what I can
[2:31:49] change in a second reading.
[2:31:50] The other commitment of this
[2:31:51] administration to work with
[2:31:55] this Council before the JUNE
[2:31:55] 16th Amendment to make those
[2:31:56] modifications and bring this
[2:31:56] back for Council's
[2:32:00] consideration.
[2:32:01] >> MAY I just add I believe
[2:32:07] Councilmember Campo had educate
[2:32:08] me a little bit on that
[2:32:09] statement about the lobbying
[2:32:13] and I have something that it
[2:32:14] said that wasn't as an English
[2:32:19] writer right?
[2:32:19] >> An English writer?
[2:32:20] Yes.
[2:32:20] That's first beside Shakespeare
[2:32:25] Another.
[2:32:25] >> Okay.
[2:32:26] Thank you.
[2:32:26] All right.
[2:32:27] Health Council PRESIDENT Pro
[2:32:32] Tem Lee thinking as PRESIDENT
[2:32:33] And co to thank you for thank
[2:32:37] you for talking to the back and
[2:32:37] forth about this.
[2:32:38] I think certainly we're all
[2:32:38] dealing with the same
[2:32:39] frustrations trying to get
[2:32:42] something across the board And
[2:32:43] so that acknowledgment does
[2:32:43] mean a lot and I'm not sure I
[2:32:49] fully grasp exactly the changes
[2:32:50] that DR. Jane because we're
[2:32:51] Campbell is alluded to and
[2:32:54] the degree to which this
[2:32:55] changes are being made.
[2:32:56] But I think knowing that we're
[2:32:56] going to get something
[2:32:57] delivered that that matches
[2:32:58] the intent is helpful.
[2:33:01] Thank.
[2:33:01] All right.
[2:33:01] Thank you, sir.
[2:33:06] And Councilmember Foster.
[2:33:06] Oh, yes.
[2:33:07] As I stated earlier, I'm still
[2:33:13] going to be voting no.
[2:33:15] I think we set a bad precedent
[2:33:20] as we you know, I think we kind
[2:33:21] of pick and choose what we
[2:33:22] consider the law at certain
[2:33:26] times and how we do certain
[2:33:26] things.
[2:33:32] But I do think as we continue
[2:33:32] to move forward that as we
[2:33:33] found ourselves in a situation
[2:33:38] that hopefully we can plan
[2:33:39] better as we continue to move
[2:33:39] forward.
[2:33:43] What I would like to request as
[2:33:44] I am unclear as to what's in
[2:33:45] here, what the discussion was
[2:33:50] on what's in, what's out, what
[2:33:51] that looks like If when we
[2:33:56] finish our negotiations or
[2:33:56] whatever we where we land as we
[2:33:57] continue to move forward I'd
[2:33:58] like to formally requested
[2:34:01] briefing to where I can be
[2:34:02] fully well versed to understand
[2:34:03] where we land and all
[2:34:07] the changes that are being made
[2:34:08] to the salary ordinance as we
[2:34:08] move forward.
[2:34:09] Yeah Councilmember I think
[2:34:15] the initial introduction of
[2:34:15] this ordinance had challenges
[2:34:16] and so yes you have
[2:34:17] the commitment to brief your
[2:34:17] offices in advance.
[2:34:19] Thank you for that.
[2:34:20] >> Right And Councilmember
[2:34:25] Moreno thank you And I want to
[2:34:26] put this on the record.
[2:34:27] As I stated earlier, I
[2:34:32] understand an amendment will be
[2:34:32] brought forward but my concern
[2:34:33] with this item stems from
[2:34:34] the city's failure to fully
[2:34:38] address the fiscal challenges
[2:34:39] we're currently facing I think
[2:34:39] Councilmember Campbell for
[2:34:44] bringing updates and I want to
[2:34:45] put on the record when did
[2:34:46] staff work on this ordinance?
[2:34:50] >> I get a call from H.R.
[2:34:55] On the timing.
[2:35:02] Thank you, councilmember moreno
[2:35:03] and this is an ongoing item
[2:35:03] that's addressed each year in
[2:35:07] preparation for the budget we
[2:35:08] have to have a first reading by
[2:35:09] APRIL 14th so we work with our
[2:35:09] city's departments,
[2:35:14] the personnel department, risk
[2:35:15] management Department of I.T
[2:35:15] and we get all that information
[2:35:16] in preparation for the fiscal
[2:35:19] year And so it's multifaceted
[2:35:20] but we work from JANUARY
[2:35:21] through APRIL and the changes
[2:35:27] that happen as changes happen
[2:35:27] daily depending on we're out
[2:35:28] with negotiations in the like
[2:35:29] two weeks leading up to
[2:35:32] the beginning of the year is
[2:35:32] when you guys started it was
[2:35:33] this after the mayor's state of
[2:35:38] the city or during around
[2:35:38] the same time as the state of
[2:35:43] the city Yet during.
[2:35:44] Okay Thank you Thank you for
[2:35:44] Councilmember Campbell for
[2:35:50] bringing updates because this
[2:35:50] action proposes a car allowance
[2:35:51] for the mayor's dco and other
[2:35:55] staff while at the same time
[2:35:56] the city is cutting funding for
[2:35:57] arts and culture.
[2:36:01] Now I do understand that while
[2:36:02] the savings from eliminating
[2:36:02] these car allowances alone
[2:36:03] would not fully restore arts
[2:36:07] funding, the optics are deeply
[2:36:08] concerning deeply concerning to
[2:36:13] me it sends the wrong message
[2:36:13] to provide perks for top
[2:36:19] officials while residents in my
[2:36:20] district will feel the impact
[2:36:20] of reduced investment in their
[2:36:24] community.
[2:36:25] This was first heard in APRIL
[2:36:31] and I think that gave plenty of
[2:36:31] opportunity for this
[2:36:36] administration to take out
[2:36:42] the line item that states
[2:36:42] adding that assistant of
[2:36:43] the city manager, deputy chief
[2:36:48] of staff and chief Financial
[2:36:48] Officer for officer
[2:36:52] classification Sorry I'm
[2:36:53] reading the wrong one adding
[2:36:53] the assistant dco and assistant
[2:36:54] to the city Manager Deputy
[2:36:58] Chief of Staff Classification
[2:36:59] to exhibit f Auto Allowance I
[2:37:05] just I can't believe you know
[2:37:06] we're being told that we're at
[2:37:11] the word we have to pass it.
[2:37:11] This is we have to make this we
[2:37:12] have to finish this.
[2:37:16] We have to complete this year.
[2:37:16] Procrastination is not my
[2:37:17] emergency.
[2:37:21] I want to state that very
[2:37:22] clear.
[2:37:22] We're talking serious talk
[2:37:27] The mayor has proposed very
[2:37:28] deep cuts in my district while
[2:37:29] at the same time adding a car
[2:37:33] allowance to one of his top
[2:37:34] chiefs.
[2:37:34] I'm not going to be supporting
[2:37:39] this before us and I hope that
[2:37:40] and this is not the first time
[2:37:41] this administration doesn't
[2:37:44] listen to what this council is
[2:37:45] saying or the second or
[2:37:45] the third.
[2:37:45] And I want to make a
[2:37:46] distinction.
[2:37:47] I want to put a line in
[2:37:50] the sand so that the residents
[2:37:50] of the city of San Diego
[2:37:51] understand very clearly what is
[2:37:55] happening not only with this
[2:37:56] budget but with a lot of things
[2:37:57] happening here at City hall.
[2:37:58] So I will be registering a no
[2:38:02] vote.
[2:38:03] All right.
[2:38:03] Thank you, Council member Reno.
[2:38:07] I don't see anyone else on
[2:38:08] the lights I motion I made
[2:38:09] the motion to move the staff
[2:38:14] recommendation as 5 or 4.
[2:38:15] We have a second by council
[2:38:19] member Campbell and please call
[2:38:19] the I sorry the voting system
[2:38:24] Please cast your vote.
[2:38:33] The that passes 5 to 2 with
[2:38:34] Councilmember Moreno and
[2:38:35] Councilmember Fuster voting no
[2:38:35] and Council regular Rivera
[2:38:38] Council member of until absent
[2:38:39] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[2:38:39] right thank you to the clerk So
[2:38:43] that does pass with five yes
[2:38:44] votes and I appreciate
[2:38:48] everybody's candor in
[2:38:49] communicating to the mayor's
[2:38:50] office where their levels of
[2:38:55] concern exist as we did last
[2:38:55] week.
[2:38:56] We'll look forward to this
[2:39:00] coming back and also part of
[2:39:01] the budget conversation as well
[2:39:02] which is what we do before we
[2:39:07] do the appropriations and
[2:39:07] therefore what we do before
[2:39:08] salaries.
[2:39:08] So with that clerk please
[2:39:12] introduce item 331.
[2:39:13] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[2:39:13] Item 331 is the appeal of
[2:39:14] development permit Coastal
[2:39:17] development permit and
[2:39:22] tentative map project number
[2:39:23] 1085883 through regarding 8303
[2:39:23] La Hoya Shores Drive This item
[2:39:29] is not subject to the mayor's
[2:39:29] veto.
[2:39:30] If you'd like to speak to this
[2:39:31] item now's the time to raise
[2:39:34] your hand or press star nine if
[2:39:34] you are in the virtual queue
[2:39:35] and if you were here in council
[2:39:36] chambers please be sure to
[2:39:39] submit a speaker slip to
[2:39:40] the front of the room in
[2:39:40] the clear box.
[2:39:41] >> Thank you.
[2:39:45] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[2:39:46] >> Thank you.
[2:39:47] So for those of you who have
[2:39:51] not been at a quiet judicial
[2:39:51] hearing especially in
[2:39:52] particular in particular appeal
[2:39:57] hearing the way to run a show
[2:39:58] will go is that staff will make
[2:39:58] their presentation.
[2:40:02] We will then invite
[2:40:03] the appellant to make their
[2:40:04] presentation and then
[2:40:09] the applicant will be invited
[2:40:09] to make their presentation.
[2:40:14] After that we will open it up
[2:40:15] for any other public comment
[2:40:16] that might be interested in
[2:40:20] speaking and then from there we
[2:40:21] will turn it over to council
[2:40:25] members for questions comments
[2:40:26] and to entertain a motion.
[2:40:27] So with that staff please
[2:40:27] introduce yourself for
[2:40:33] the record and let us know how
[2:40:33] much time you need for your
[2:40:34] presentation.
[2:40:34] >> Good afternoon.
[2:40:39] I'm Veronica De Nissan, project
[2:40:39] manager with the Development
[2:40:40] Services Department And I
[2:40:41] wanted 20 minutes please.
[2:40:41] All right.
[2:40:44] Begin when you're ready.
[2:40:45] >> Good afternoon, Council
[2:40:50] PRESIDENT Like other council
[2:40:51] members and members of
[2:40:51] the public.
[2:40:52] The item before you is the 83
[2:40:57] or 3 Thrive project Appeal Page
[2:41:02] 1085883.
[2:41:03] >> The project site is 4.45
[2:41:03] acres and is located in
[2:41:08] the larger resource plan
[2:41:09] District Single Family zone
[2:41:10] the coastal zone and
[2:41:13] the quarter height limit
[2:41:14] overlay zone within the La Hoya
[2:41:15] Community Plan.
[2:41:15] The site is previously
[2:41:20] developed with an existing 5958
[2:41:21] square foot single dwelling
[2:41:26] unit and an attached garage.
[2:41:27] >> The project site is located
[2:41:27] within an urbanized area
[2:41:32] approximately half a mile
[2:41:33] eastern Pacific Ocean and is
[2:41:33] now between the first public
[2:41:34] roadway and the ocean.
[2:41:39] The site is currently
[2:41:40] accessible via the private coda
[2:41:41] connecting westward to
[2:41:45] the shore drive.
[2:41:45] The project site does not
[2:41:46] contain any sensitive
[2:41:47] biological resources or special
[2:41:50] flood hazard areas.
[2:41:55] The project includes
[2:41:56] consolidating three parcels
[2:41:57] into a single lot for its
[2:42:00] subdivision into six
[2:42:00] residential lots with common
[2:42:01] access to the public right of
[2:42:01] way.
[2:42:07] Demolition of the existing
[2:42:08] single dwelling unit and
[2:42:08] garage.
[2:42:09] Construction of a single
[2:42:10] dwelling unit at each new lodge
[2:42:13] plus an accessory dwelling unit
[2:42:14] on not six only for a total of
[2:42:14] seven dwelling units.
[2:42:19] In addition, the project
[2:42:20] includes underground drainage
[2:42:21] and sewer improvements on first
[2:42:25] quarter connecting to public
[2:42:25] resistance along the La Hoya
[2:42:31] short Drive at.
[2:42:31] As previously noted,
[2:42:32] the project site comprises
[2:42:32] three parcels.
[2:42:36] Parcel one is developed with a
[2:42:37] single dwelling unit and an
[2:42:37] attached garage proposed for
[2:42:38] demolition.
[2:42:42] The existing structure is older
[2:42:43] than 45 years and supports
[2:42:48] historic evaluation.
[2:42:48] City staff determined that
[2:42:49] the property does not meet
[2:42:50] the local designation criteria
[2:42:53] as an individually significant
[2:42:54] historic resource.
[2:42:57] However, Oscoda shown in yellow
[2:42:58] is a 60 foot wide strip of land
[2:42:59] identified as a shared easement
[2:43:00] in the original deed recorded
[2:43:07] in 1949.
[2:43:08] >> The proposed subdivision
[2:43:09] would result in six numbered
[2:43:12] residential lots and one letter
[2:43:13] not designated as a private
[2:43:13] access road to the north.
[2:43:18] The project involves
[2:43:18] the construction of a single
[2:43:22] dwelling unit at each new large
[2:43:27] ranging from 11,739 to 6000
[2:43:28] 16,270ft with pool facilities
[2:43:29] and landscape related
[2:43:29] improvements.
[2:43:34] Lot six would also include an
[2:43:35] accessory dwelling unit and
[2:43:38] have clear access to the first
[2:43:38] quarter.
[2:43:39] City staff reviewed and
[2:43:43] accepted technical study for
[2:43:44] the project which concluded
[2:43:44] that the site is suitable for
[2:43:45] the proposed development.
[2:43:49] In addition, a preliminary
[2:43:50] drainage study prepared for
[2:43:51] the project complies with
[2:43:55] current stormwater regulations
[2:43:55] .
[2:43:56] All improvements are subject to
[2:43:56] the approval of the city
[2:43:57] engineer at the time of
[2:44:01] the construction permit.
[2:44:06] >> The project is surrounded by
[2:44:07] one and two stories single
[2:44:08] units with site amenities
[2:44:08] including tennis courts and
[2:44:09] swimming pools.
[2:44:13] The project aligns with
[2:44:14] the community character of
[2:44:14] the surrounding neighborhood
[2:44:15] and is consistent with
[2:44:18] the average development
[2:44:19] patterns within a 300 foot
[2:44:20] radius of the project site.
[2:44:21] As required by the La Hoya
[2:44:24] Schwartz Plan District
[2:44:25] Ordinance, the project complies
[2:44:25] with all the development
[2:44:31] standards required by the b
[2:44:32] zone including density building
[2:44:33] setback floor area ratio not
[2:44:37] coverage and the 30 foot
[2:44:37] maximum structural height
[2:44:38] allowed in the coastal
[2:44:42] limitation overlay zone.
[2:44:43] >> The required approval a
[2:44:48] process for tentative map for a
[2:44:49] land population creating five
[2:44:50] or more parcels a process three
[2:44:55] site apartment permit for
[2:44:55] the development of a major
[2:44:56] project in the La Hoya Resource
[2:45:00] Plan District a process to
[2:45:00] coastal development permit for
[2:45:01] the increase in density and
[2:45:02] demolition of an existing
[2:45:05] single dwelling unit.
[2:45:06] The project includes an
[2:45:07] addendum to program
[2:45:12] Environmental Impact Report pr
[2:45:13] number 920199 for the La Hoya
[2:45:14] and Pacific Beach Community
[2:45:18] Plan and local Coastal Program
[2:45:19] Land Use Plan updates prepared
[2:45:20] in accordance with 30 islands.
[2:45:24] These consolidated approvals
[2:45:25] were presented to the Planning
[2:45:26] Commission on DECEMBER 4th,
[2:45:26] 2025.
[2:45:31] The Planning Commission voted
[2:45:31] five zero to to approve
[2:45:32] the project and adopt addendum
[2:45:36] to p r number 920199 on
[2:45:42] DECEMBER 17th, 2025 an appeal
[2:45:42] was filed by Kenneth Jones of
[2:45:43] Fletcher Max llp.
[2:45:49] Representing Arthur in
[2:45:49] the Cabinet cite citing factual
[2:45:50] error conflicts with other
[2:45:53] matters and findings not
[2:45:54] supported of grounds for
[2:45:54] appeal.
[2:45:59] Legal standard for appeal.
[2:46:03] Pursuant to Civil Code Section
[2:46:04] 1120508c An appeal of a process
[2:46:05] for decision MAY be granted
[2:46:10] with evidence supporting one of
[2:46:10] the following grounds for
[2:46:11] appeal factual error When
[2:46:16] the statements or evidence
[2:46:16] relied upon by the decision
[2:46:17] maker when approving
[2:46:17] conditionally approving or
[2:46:22] denying a permit map or other
[2:46:23] matter where inaccurate new
[2:46:23] information when new
[2:46:28] information is available to
[2:46:29] the applicant or the interested
[2:46:29] person that was not available
[2:46:30] through that person's
[2:46:34] reasonable efforts or due
[2:46:35] diligence at the time of
[2:46:35] the decision.
[2:46:40] Findings that supported when
[2:46:40] the decision maker stated
[2:46:41] findings to approve
[2:46:41] conditionally approve or deny
[2:46:46] the permit map or other matter
[2:46:47] are not supported by
[2:46:48] the information provided to
[2:46:52] the decision maker.
[2:46:53] Conflicts when the decision to
[2:46:53] approve or conditionally
[2:46:54] approve or deny the permit map
[2:46:58] or other matter is in conflict
[2:46:59] with a land use plan issued
[2:47:04] council policy or the municipal
[2:47:04] code or city what significance
[2:47:05] when the matter being appealed
[2:47:10] is a citywide significance
[2:47:15] appeal issue number one
[2:47:15] unresolved easement in
[2:47:16] the right of way consent is
[2:47:21] required before utilities are
[2:47:21] installed within this private
[2:47:22] right of way and any reliance
[2:47:23] on easement language concerning
[2:47:27] public utilities does not
[2:47:28] authorize private drainage and
[2:47:29] sewer facilities serving a
[2:47:33] single development without
[2:47:33] owner approval.
[2:47:34] The claimed easement its scope
[2:47:35] and any required consents must
[2:47:39] be completed in resolved prior
[2:47:40] to city approval Staff response
[2:47:46] to appeal Issue number one
[2:47:46] The disposition is that
[2:47:47] the applicant MAY construct
[2:47:51] the proposed underground
[2:47:51] drainage and sewer improvements
[2:47:52] within the first quarter
[2:47:53] because of the original grant
[2:48:01] deed document number 43967
[2:48:02] recorded in MAY 18th 1949
[2:48:03] states that the 60 foot wide
[2:48:08] strip of land or parcel is to
[2:48:09] be used for road and street
[2:48:09] purposes and for
[2:48:10] the installation repair and
[2:48:14] replacement of public
[2:48:14] utilities.
[2:48:15] The proposed improvements are
[2:48:16] designed to connect the subject
[2:48:20] property to an approved public
[2:48:21] utility system and public
[2:48:26] drainage system Installation of
[2:48:26] private utility laterals within
[2:48:27] private roadways and utility
[2:48:32] easements is a customary and
[2:48:32] accepted practice for
[2:48:33] the improvements are
[2:48:34] constructed in accordance with
[2:48:38] city standards and did not
[2:48:38] unreasonably interfere with
[2:48:39] existing access or utility
[2:48:44] rights.
[2:48:45] The extent of the improvements
[2:48:45] would not interfere with
[2:48:46] existing access or utility
[2:48:50] rights since it would not
[2:48:51] encumber a significant portion
[2:48:51] of the easement.
[2:48:52] The city, in reviewing
[2:48:55] the original granted and
[2:48:56] the project determined that
[2:48:57] the proposed improvements fall
[2:48:57] within the scope of
[2:49:02] the recorded easement and
[2:49:02] comply with applicable
[2:49:03] regulations.
[2:49:04] The project permit includes
[2:49:08] conditions of approval to
[2:49:08] ensure conformance with
[2:49:09] the current version of
[2:49:10] the Stormwater Standards Manual
[2:49:13] and drainage design Manual.
[2:49:14] The city does not interfere
[2:49:17] with third party disputes over
[2:49:24] the use of private easements.
[2:49:24] Population number two right of
[2:49:25] way scope public utilities
[2:49:30] versus private improvements.
[2:49:30] The right of way as
[2:49:31] characterized by the applicant
[2:49:36] allows use for road and street
[2:49:37] purposes and for
[2:49:37] the installation repair and
[2:49:38] replacement of public
[2:49:38] utilities.
[2:49:42] The projects drainage and sewer
[2:49:42] improvements are private
[2:49:43] serving the project rather than
[2:49:47] constituting public utility
[2:49:48] infrastructure and that exceeds
[2:49:49] the scope of any easements
[2:49:54] permitting public utilities.
[2:49:55] City approval should not rely
[2:49:55] on private works shoehorned
[2:49:59] into public utility easement
[2:50:00] language without a clear legal
[2:50:01] basis and documented consent
[2:50:06] from all necessary parties.
[2:50:07] Staff response to Appeal Issue
[2:50:11] number two As stated before
[2:50:11] the will be determined
[2:50:12] the construction of the storm
[2:50:16] water and sewer improvements is
[2:50:17] permitted based on the language
[2:50:18] in the original granted for
[2:50:22] the easement and what is
[2:50:23] customary practice for private
[2:50:24] Internet infrastructure being
[2:50:24] tied into public systems.
[2:50:28] The appellant interprets
[2:50:29] the term public utility as
[2:50:34] requiring that all facilities
[2:50:34] within the easement be publicly
[2:50:35] owned or operated Private sewer
[2:50:40] laterals, drainage conditions
[2:50:40] and similar facilities that
[2:50:41] serve individual properties by
[2:50:46] connecting to a public utility
[2:50:46] system are allowed within
[2:50:47] utility easements.
[2:50:47] The proposed stormwater
[2:50:52] facility is considered utility
[2:50:52] infrastructure that connects to
[2:50:57] and relies upon a public system
[2:50:58] for discharge via a curb
[2:50:58] outlet.
[2:50:59] The proposed sewer lateral is
[2:51:03] designed to connect to
[2:51:04] the public through Remain via
[2:51:05] an existing public sewer
[2:51:08] easement within four quarters.
[2:51:08] Population number three.
[2:51:13] Ownership and authority within
[2:51:14] the private right of way
[2:51:14] The right of way parcel is
[2:51:19] privately owned and undivided
[2:51:20] fee by five core owners
[2:51:20] including the applicant and
[2:51:21] there is no recorded easement
[2:51:25] bordering that parcel in favor
[2:51:26] of the project's proposed
[2:51:27] private stormwater discharge or
[2:51:31] the other owners interests.
[2:51:31] The applicant lacks a written
[2:51:32] consent from the other owners
[2:51:37] for such use.
[2:51:37] This raises fundamental
[2:51:38] authority and access concerns
[2:51:39] that should be resolved before
[2:51:43] any city approval dependent on
[2:51:44] the use of the private right of
[2:51:48] way.
[2:51:49] Staff Responds to Appeal Issue
[2:51:50] number three.
[2:51:50] The city's review of
[2:51:55] the original granting lady to
[2:51:55] determine that the right to
[2:51:56] allow construction of
[2:51:59] the stormwater infrastructure
[2:52:00] and sewer lines are permitted
[2:52:01] based on the easement language
[2:52:05] And because they both tie into
[2:52:06] public systems.
[2:52:07] These improvements comply with
[2:52:11] applicable regulations.
[2:52:12] The city does not interfere
[2:52:12] with third party disputes over
[2:52:17] the use of private easements.
[2:52:18] Appeal Issue number four.
[2:52:18] Drainage system concerns
[2:52:23] requiring commission direction
[2:52:24] In addition to the easement and
[2:52:25] authority issues above our
[2:52:29] clients request that
[2:52:30] the Commission ensure
[2:52:30] the following issues are
[2:52:31] addressed to the city
[2:52:32] satisfaction and reflected as
[2:52:35] enforceable conditions of
[2:52:35] approval.
[2:52:36] 4.1.
[2:52:40] Disruption during construction
[2:52:40] .
[2:52:41] 4.2.
[2:52:41] Maintenance Responsibilities.
[2:52:45] 4.3 Potential Drainage Problems
[2:52:46] and downstream impacts.
[2:52:50] 4.4 Risk of backup at a 12 inch
[2:52:50] pipe outlet.
[2:52:54] 4.5 Hedge replacement and
[2:53:00] surface restoration.
[2:53:00] Staff Response to Appeal Issue
[2:53:01] number 4.1.
[2:53:05] Disruption during construction
[2:53:05] .
[2:53:05] Austerity policies regarding
[2:53:06] Construction Act venues
[2:53:11] including emergency access and
[2:53:11] ingress and egress issues.
[2:53:12] Hours of operation and noise
[2:53:17] control that will be required
[2:53:18] as part of the ministerial
[2:53:18] review process and will be
[2:53:19] verified to the satisfaction of
[2:53:22] the city engineer.
[2:53:23] The project is subject to
[2:53:24] temporary construction best
[2:53:24] management practices for
[2:53:27] stormwater standards,
[2:53:28] construction work hours of
[2:53:29] operation and noise regulation
[2:53:33] are applicable.
[2:53:34] Fire safety and access during
[2:53:34] construction are required for
[2:53:38] sending a pharmacy standard a7.
[2:53:39] The project is also subject to
[2:53:39] street damage repair to
[2:53:44] existing pavement from
[2:53:44] excavation work determined by
[2:53:45] the city engineer.
[2:53:49] Staff response to Appeal Issue
[2:53:50] 4.2.
[2:53:50] Maintenance Responsibilities.
[2:53:55] Permit Conditions required.
[2:53:55] Stormwater Mitigation and
[2:53:56] Discharge Control Management
[2:53:57] Plan to the satisfaction of
[2:54:01] the City Engineer as an
[2:54:01] encroachment Maintenance and
[2:54:02] removal agreement will be
[2:54:03] required for the proposed
[2:54:07] private storm drain right of
[2:54:08] way encroachment into the La
[2:54:08] Hoya Schwartz Drive Curb outlet
[2:54:09] discharge.
[2:54:12] Indemnification and insurance
[2:54:12] between property owners is a
[2:54:13] third party matter not enforced
[2:54:17] by the city.
[2:54:18] Staff response to Appeal Issue
[2:54:22] number 4.3 Potential drainage
[2:54:23] Problems and downstream
[2:54:23] Impacts.
[2:54:28] A drainage study for
[2:54:29] the proposed project includes
[2:54:29] peak flow attenuation details.
[2:54:33] The project is required to
[2:54:33] mitigate developed condition
[2:54:34] peak flows to levels below pre
[2:54:38] developed conditions to
[2:54:39] the satisfaction of the city
[2:54:39] engineer.
[2:54:40] Runoff will be fully contained
[2:54:44] in the proposed storm drain
[2:54:45] system and the corresponding
[2:54:46] phasing will be determined
[2:54:49] through a hydraulic analysis to
[2:54:50] ensure the proposed development
[2:54:51] does not cause flooding of
[2:54:51] surrounding properties to
[2:54:55] the satisfaction of the city
[2:54:56] engineer.
[2:54:56] The proposed storm drain will
[2:54:57] discharge directly to the curb
[2:55:01] line in De La Hoya Shores right
[2:55:02] via a proposed curb alert
[2:55:05] system.
[2:55:10] Staff response to Appeal Issue
[2:55:10] number 4.4.
[2:55:11] Risk of backup at the 12 inch
[2:55:15] btc outlets.
[2:55:16] >> Permit conditions require an
[2:55:16] encroachment maintenance and
[2:55:17] removal agreement including
[2:55:21] specifications to prevent
[2:55:21] potential clogging or back up
[2:55:22] of the curb outlet discharge or
[2:55:25] other potential clogging
[2:55:26] impacts associated with
[2:55:27] the proposed private storm
[2:55:27] drain.
[2:55:28] This agreement will be subject
[2:55:30] to review by the city The city
[2:55:35] engineer.
[2:55:36] Staff Responsibility Number 4.5
[2:55:37] Hedge replacement and surface
[2:55:41] restoration in all graded
[2:55:42] disturbed or eroded areas that
[2:55:46] will not be permanently paved
[2:55:47] or covered by structures shall
[2:55:47] be permanently revegetated and
[2:55:48] irrigated.
[2:55:52] Updated landscape condition
[2:55:53] number 26 required complete
[2:55:53] construction documents for
[2:55:57] the premeditation and hydro
[2:55:58] sealing of all disturbed land
[2:55:59] in accordance with the city of
[2:55:59] San Diego Landscape standards.
[2:56:03] The stormwater defined manner
[2:56:04] and to the satisfaction of
[2:56:04] the city and the Development
[2:56:08] Services Department.
[2:56:14] Staff Recommendation.
[2:56:14] >> Staff has reviewed
[2:56:15] the proposal and concluded that
[2:56:16] the improvements are consistent
[2:56:19] with the purpose and intent of
[2:56:19] the recorded easement and
[2:56:20] the applicant's rights to
[2:56:21] the easement.
[2:56:24] Further, the project is
[2:56:25] conditioned to comply with all
[2:56:25] standard city policies and
[2:56:28] regulations for construction
[2:56:29] access and maintenance.
[2:56:30] Staff recommends that
[2:56:30] the Council deny the appeal and
[2:56:34] affirm the Planning
[2:56:34] Commission's decision to
[2:56:35] approve with modifications.
[2:56:38] Coastal Development permit
[2:56:39] number 3213964 Site Development
[2:56:43] Permit Number 3213965.
[2:56:48] Tentative map number 3213966 In
[2:56:51] adopting addendum number
[2:56:56] 21285883 to be r number 912199
[2:56:56] The intention to the staff and
[2:57:00] the applicant team are
[2:57:01] available for questions.
[2:57:06] Thank you.
[2:57:11] I have I'm sorry.
[2:57:11] >> Staff has advised for
[2:57:15] conditions and provided to new
[2:57:16] conditions that will as
[2:57:16] follows.
[2:57:31] Oh yeah.
[2:57:31] Copies of these conditions have
[2:57:36] been provided in hard copy.
[2:57:41] The there is engineering
[2:57:42] condition number 25 addressing
[2:57:42] requirements of the drainage
[2:57:46] study to landscape conditions
[2:57:51] addressing requirements of
[2:57:52] the replacement of the existing
[2:57:56] hedges where needed to public
[2:57:57] utilities conditions to address
[2:58:01] sewer facility requirements and
[2:58:02] one one tentative map condition
[2:58:06] and requiring drainage and
[2:58:07] sewer improvements to comply
[2:58:08] with the California Civil Code
[2:58:08] requirements.
[2:58:12] Thank you.
[2:58:12] >> All right.
[2:58:13] Thank you.
[2:58:13] Now that concludes your
[2:58:14] presentation.
[2:58:16] Right.
[2:58:17] >> This concludes my
[2:58:17] presentation.
[2:58:18] Thank you.
[2:58:18] Okay.
[2:58:18] Thank you.
[2:58:19] Before I turn over to
[2:58:22] the appellant, I'll turn it
[2:58:23] over to the Officer city
[2:58:23] attorney for comment.
[2:58:24] >> Thank you.
[2:58:26] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:58:27] When hearing and deciding upon
[2:58:28] a project appeal the Council
[2:58:32] MAY affirm reverse or modify
[2:58:33] the Planning Commission's
[2:58:36] decision a decision to reverse
[2:58:37] or modify the Planning
[2:58:38] Commission's decision must be
[2:58:38] based on one or more of
[2:58:42] the following factual error New
[2:58:43] information findings that are
[2:58:47] not supported conflict with
[2:58:48] the Land Use Plan Council
[2:58:48] policy or the municipal Code or
[2:58:52] citywide significance.
[2:58:53] A court will uphold
[2:58:54] the Council's decision if it is
[2:58:57] supported by substantial
[2:58:58] evidence in the record.
[2:58:58] Thank you.
[2:58:59] That concludes my comments.
[2:59:02] All right.
[2:59:03] Thank you for that reminder as
[2:59:03] we do these appeals.
[2:59:07] So now I will turn it over to
[2:59:12] the appellate for the project.
[2:59:13] >> Well, you I think you've
[2:59:15] been advised you'll have 15
[2:59:16] minutes if you could introduce
[2:59:17] yourself for the record and
[2:59:21] begin when you're ready.
[2:59:21] >> Good afternoon, Council
[2:59:22] PRESIDENT.
[2:59:22] Council members.
[2:59:26] My name is Anna Ludtke and I am
[2:59:27] from the law firm of Higgs
[2:59:27] Fletcher and Mack I am here
[2:59:31] today on behalf of DR. And MRS.
[2:59:35] Cavanaugh who live at 80 to 75
[2:59:36] La Hoya Drive and are
[2:59:36] downstream neighbors of
[2:59:40] the proposed project.
[2:59:41] The Cavanaugh's timely filed a
[2:59:41] project appeal after
[2:59:45] the planning Commission
[2:59:45] approved the permits on
[2:59:46] DECEMBER 4th, 2025.
[2:59:47] The appeal challenges
[2:59:50] the planning Commission
[2:59:51] findings on drainage adequacy
[2:59:51] An applicant's legal authority
[2:59:55] with respect to the private
[2:59:56] roadway higher first quarter
[2:59:59] Through this appeal process I
[3:00:00] have discussed these issues
[3:00:00] with neighboring property
[3:00:05] owners who also have concerns
[3:00:05] about the project and we are
[3:00:06] here today.
[3:00:10] I am here today to respectfully
[3:00:11] request a short continuance of
[3:00:11] this hearing so that we MAY
[3:00:15] further study and review
[3:00:16] the new and modified project
[3:00:20] conditions and also continue
[3:00:21] our discussions with
[3:00:21] the project applicant.
[3:00:22] Prior to this hearing we were
[3:00:25] in discussions with them on
[3:00:26] some modifications to
[3:00:33] the conditions of approval that
[3:00:33] you asked the applicant.
[3:00:38] >> I have not asked
[3:00:39] the applicant for a continuance
[3:00:43] yet know it's a little
[3:00:43] difficult because I think there
[3:00:44] are some people here that are
[3:00:45] not connected with you know,
[3:00:47] the appellant or the applicant
[3:00:47] who came down here in good
[3:00:48] faith.
[3:00:52] The council is ready.
[3:00:53] What I will give you is kind of
[3:00:56] a half response is
[3:01:01] the applicant also has a 15
[3:01:02] minute presentation.
[3:01:05] I don't know if 15 minutes is
[3:01:05] going to be enough for you to
[3:01:09] confer with them and or staff
[3:01:10] with this very lengthy and very
[3:01:14] small print modification to
[3:01:15] the conditions.
[3:01:18] But why don't you go through
[3:01:19] that and see where you land and
[3:01:20] see if there's any comfort
[3:01:20] level there?
[3:01:24] I know that's a lot to ask of
[3:01:25] you but I think you can
[3:01:25] understand docketing These
[3:01:29] items don't come easy And again
[3:01:29] there's other people that I
[3:01:30] want to extend a courtesy to
[3:01:33] them for showing up here with
[3:01:34] their own issues which MAY be
[3:01:34] different.
[3:01:35] So do you want to run through
[3:01:39] your presentation in any way or
[3:01:42] do you want to use that time to
[3:01:47] confer with the applicant?
[3:01:48] If I elect to take a few
[3:01:49] minutes to confer with
[3:01:53] the applicant if they do not
[3:01:53] agree MAY I come back and
[3:01:54] complete my presentation?
[3:01:54] Yes.
[3:01:57] We extend the courtesy of
[3:01:58] having you go first but yes at
[3:02:01] your request you can certainly
[3:02:01] do a second.
[3:02:02] Okay?
[3:02:02] Okay.
[3:02:05] All right.
[3:02:06] Yeah.
[3:02:07] I'm putting you in a tough spot
[3:02:07] so I understand that.
[3:02:11] I appreciate that.
[3:02:12] I'm trying to navigate running
[3:02:12] the meeting.
[3:02:13] So is any member of
[3:02:16] the applicant willing to I
[3:02:17] shouldn't put words in your
[3:02:20] mouth but to sit down with her
[3:02:21] and work through the changes
[3:02:23] You have a copy of them?
[3:02:23] Yeah.
[3:02:32] Yeah, I do.
[3:02:33] Good.
[3:02:38] After Good afternoon, Counsel.
[3:02:39] This is Sandra Slavin On behalf
[3:02:42] of the applicant we have
[3:02:43] reviewed the conditions that
[3:02:43] staff has provided and we're in
[3:02:47] agreement with them and we
[3:02:47] believe they more than address
[3:02:48] the issues that were raised
[3:02:51] both in the PowerPoint and
[3:02:52] the letters we've received thus
[3:02:52] far.
[3:02:53] Therefore we're asking that
[3:02:57] the hearing continue.
[3:02:57] Okay.
[3:02:58] We weren't asking you that
[3:02:58] question.
[3:02:59] What we were asking whether you
[3:03:02] would be willing to talk with
[3:03:02] the appellants representative
[3:03:06] about the conditions that you
[3:03:07] MAY or MAY not agree with them.
[3:03:15] But I think what I'll I mean I
[3:03:15] don't expect we have a few
[3:03:16] minutes please.
[3:03:16] Yeah.
[3:03:18] So what I'm going to do is I'm
[3:03:19] going to go to the rest of
[3:03:20] the public and take their
[3:03:30] testimony for the public I have
[3:03:34] of Bernard Siegel.
[3:03:38] Bernard Siegel, are you here if
[3:03:43] you'd like to come up to speak
[3:03:44] after Bernard Siegel I have
[3:03:49] Michael Feinstein Would it be
[3:03:49] permissible or have been
[3:03:50] changed to speak first?
[3:03:53] Lynne Shank Sure.
[3:03:54] Lynne Shenk You have time ceded
[3:03:57] to you by Kyle Alderman if you
[3:03:58] can please raise your hand and
[3:04:10] by John Doe many thank you.
[3:04:11] How much time I think MR.
[3:04:15] Domini seated his time to MR.
[3:04:19] Siegel I have here John Dominy
[3:04:20] and Kyle Alderman both ceded
[3:04:24] their time to you.
[3:04:24] Lynch Okay.
[3:04:27] And then you will be having
[3:04:32] three, four, three, 4.5
[3:04:32] minutes.
[3:04:33] It's going to be a minute and a
[3:04:35] half for each person So you'll
[3:04:36] have 4.5 minutes.
[3:04:36] All right.
[3:04:41] Well, thank you, PRESIDENT
[3:04:41] LaCava and members of the City
[3:04:42] Council.
[3:04:42] My name is Lynn Shank.
[3:04:46] I reside at 2446 Valla Zito's
[3:04:50] Court in in La Hoya.
[3:04:51] Let me just start by saying
[3:04:51] that my attorney Robin
[3:04:55] Modafferi who was going to be
[3:04:56] here I just learned a few hours
[3:04:59] ago is quite ill and for that
[3:05:00] reason and others I would
[3:05:04] support the continuance request
[3:05:05] so that we could have her here.
[3:05:09] But if not I will go on with my
[3:05:14] remarks if that's okay.
[3:05:14] Uh, frankly I haven't been in
[3:05:18] this council chamber since
[3:05:19] the late 80s when I was
[3:05:20] appointed to the Port
[3:05:20] Commission by a previous
[3:05:24] council and never thought I'd
[3:05:24] be here again.
[3:05:28] But this project is of such
[3:05:31] magnitude the whole project
[3:05:32] entire four and a half acres
[3:05:33] and the six McMansions that are
[3:05:37] being proposed have such an
[3:05:37] impact on my life that I.
[3:05:38] i had to show up.
[3:05:42] Yes this project is in La Hoya
[3:05:46] but but the incompatible
[3:05:47] construction that impacts
[3:05:48] the lives of neighbors can
[3:05:52] happen in any neighborhood in
[3:05:52] any district.
[3:05:56] My property is immediately
[3:05:57] contiguous to the project
[3:06:01] separated only by a chain link
[3:06:01] fence.
[3:06:02] There's no alley there, no
[3:06:02] roads, nothing.
[3:06:06] It's just one continuous piece
[3:06:06] of land.
[3:06:11] The plan is to build six very
[3:06:12] large homes two of them
[3:06:15] immediately abutting my home
[3:06:19] and they will be three maybe
[3:06:20] four times the size of my house
[3:06:21] within ten feet of my house.
[3:06:24] Now I'm five seven and I don't
[3:06:25] know adding a few feet here
[3:06:28] above my hand That's
[3:06:29] the distance from these very
[3:06:34] large homes to to mine Uh, I'm
[3:06:34] not here to ask you to to kill
[3:06:35] this project.
[3:06:39] I'm here to ask you to either
[3:06:39] grant the continuance or to
[3:06:42] delay approval so that we can
[3:06:43] work in a very real neighborly
[3:06:44] and good faith manner to come
[3:06:47] up with mitigation measures.
[3:06:48] I didn't appear before
[3:06:53] the planning Commission.
[3:06:54] Well, first my my daughter my
[3:06:58] stepdaughter died just a couple
[3:06:59] of weeks before But also we had
[3:07:03] a we thought my attorney and I
[3:07:04] that we had come up with some
[3:07:08] agreements with the owners of
[3:07:09] Lot three and we relied on that
[3:07:12] in good faith.
[3:07:13] But I'm here to tell you say
[3:07:13] that from that moment on they
[3:07:18] have not acted in good faith
[3:07:18] Their applicants lawyers
[3:07:21] applicant of the project have
[3:07:22] have delayed and generally
[3:07:23] ignored entreaties by my lawyer
[3:07:27] to reduce our agreement to
[3:07:28] writing their lawyer as they
[3:07:33] delayed it didn't return calls
[3:07:33] and in fact finally called her
[3:07:37] when the notice of this hearing
[3:07:37] finally came out that's when he
[3:07:38] called her.
[3:07:41] But that's been the tenor of
[3:07:42] this saga.
[3:07:42] It's been cloaked in secrecy,
[3:07:46] lack of transparency and devoid
[3:07:47] of a fair process.
[3:07:47] We've tried to find out who
[3:07:51] the owners are of these six
[3:07:52] slots who's going to be our
[3:07:52] neighbors.
[3:07:55] One must wonder about this
[3:07:59] secrecy Who are the unknown
[3:08:00] Three out-of-state owners that
[3:08:00] the u-t referred to when they
[3:08:04] wrote about this project?
[3:08:05] I have no idea who's going to
[3:08:06] be my neighbors Who who do I
[3:08:06] talk to?
[3:08:09] It took over a year to learn
[3:08:10] about one neighbor.
[3:08:10] We met the Senate.
[3:08:14] Very nice people refused to
[3:08:15] tell us who the other owners
[3:08:19] were a couple of years later
[3:08:20] meaning a few months ago I met
[3:08:23] with the owners of Lot three
[3:08:23] that does abut my house again
[3:08:24] very nice people.
[3:08:27] I thought we had an agreement
[3:08:32] but not nothing a lot for and I
[3:08:32] have passed out this lot lot
[3:08:37] for will immediately but my my
[3:08:41] home and the way it is designed
[3:08:42] the windows and their
[3:08:42] entertainment deck looks right
[3:08:46] into my house, into my living
[3:08:47] room, into my my dining room
[3:08:51] because I have cathedral
[3:08:52] ceilings.
[3:08:52] The house was built in the 60s
[3:08:56] by owners who never thought
[3:08:57] that they would have a house
[3:08:57] right next to them looking in
[3:09:01] on on their life this way built
[3:09:02] on an artificial pad they're
[3:09:05] going to tear down a big hill
[3:09:10] and create a pad filling in a
[3:09:11] valley That should not be done.
[3:09:15] >> That does conclude your time
[3:09:16] .
[3:09:17] I am not sure if anybody else
[3:09:17] wants to cede your time but
[3:09:18] that is the full time.
[3:09:20] I'm sorry.
[3:09:21] Well it's it's a mystery why
[3:09:25] the local advisory board was
[3:09:25] ignored when voted against is
[3:09:26] unanimous.
[3:09:26] Thank you for that And I thank
[3:09:30] you for your time and I hope
[3:09:31] that you will read my letter.
[3:09:32] It's just I have to ask you.
[3:09:37] >> Thank you, Bernard Siegel
[3:09:38] Bernard Siegel After that is
[3:09:43] Philip Merton to the left And
[3:09:48] MR. Burke, are you okay with
[3:09:48] that?
[3:09:49] MR. Burton Because we do do a
[3:09:49] first come first serve unless
[3:09:50] you're okay with it.
[3:09:54] Please come up.
[3:09:55] Good afternoon.
[3:10:00] Council members.
[3:10:01] My name is Philip Merton.
[3:10:03] I reside at 1236 New Orleans
[3:10:04] Vista Way in the community of
[3:10:08] La Hoya.
[3:10:09] I'm here today representing MR.
[3:10:09] Lynch.
[3:10:13] I want my comments are also on
[3:10:17] my own behalf as a 15 year
[3:10:17] member of the Community
[3:10:18] Planning Association and as an
[3:10:22] elected trustee for 12 of those
[3:10:26] years in the late 1960s and
[3:10:26] early 1970s the residents of La
[3:10:30] Hoya Shores concluded that
[3:10:31] the character of their
[3:10:31] community was unique and
[3:10:35] deserved protection.
[3:10:36] In 1974 the San Diego City
[3:10:37] Council adopted De La Hoya
[3:10:41] Shores precise Plan de La Hoya
[3:10:42] Shores Design Manual and the La
[3:10:45] Hoya Shore's Plan District
[3:10:46] Ordinance The La Hoya Surance
[3:10:46] Plan District ordinance has
[3:10:49] been the controlling
[3:10:50] regulations in La Hoya Shores
[3:10:51] for more than 50 years and are
[3:10:55] contained in Chapter 15 Article
[3:10:55] one of the San Diego Municipal
[3:11:00] Code The Design Principles
[3:11:00] section of the Shores Ordinance
[3:11:05] states original quality and
[3:11:06] diversity in architecture are
[3:11:09] encouraged The same unity and
[3:11:09] variety shall be a guiding
[3:11:10] principle.
[3:11:13] Unity without variety means
[3:11:14] simple monotony but variety by
[3:11:14] itself is chaos.
[3:11:19] It says that no structure will
[3:11:19] be approved which is
[3:11:23] substantially like any other
[3:11:24] structure located on adjacent
[3:11:24] parcel.
[3:11:29] It also says conversely no
[3:11:30] structure will be approved that
[3:11:30] is so different in quality For
[3:11:33] that concluding statement that
[3:11:34] does include But if you have
[3:11:35] written statements you can
[3:11:35] definitely hand those to my
[3:11:36] staff and then we can
[3:11:38] distribute those to the council
[3:11:38] so that they can continue
[3:11:39] reading them.
[3:11:40] Do you have a handout for
[3:11:43] council member group Mo Samak
[3:11:51] Summary.
[3:11:52] Good afternoon.
[3:11:57] Council PRESIDENT McCarver
[3:11:58] Council Members My name is Mo
[3:12:02] Samik I am with the Office of
[3:12:03] San Diego Land Lawyers and we
[3:12:06] represent MISS Lynn Schenck who
[3:12:07] actually as you mentioned owns
[3:12:07] property directly adjacent to
[3:12:11] this particular project.
[3:12:11] In addition to the concerns
[3:12:16] that was raised by others there
[3:12:17] are a couple of technical items
[3:12:17] that I would like to bring it
[3:12:20] to Council's attention before
[3:12:20] their decision.
[3:12:24] First is about the grading.
[3:12:25] This project proposes a grading
[3:12:29] of six different lots with no
[3:12:30] particular order in which
[3:12:35] the lots are going to be
[3:12:35] graded.
[3:12:36] The amount of grading is
[3:12:36] significant.
[3:12:40] It varies from for each lot.
[3:12:43] It varies from 560yd to about
[3:12:47] 40 800yd of excavation and
[3:12:51] 460yd to about 20 500yd of
[3:12:52] fill.
[3:12:53] And if there are no conditions
[3:12:56] to proper address the amount of
[3:12:57] grading, it is possible that
[3:13:01] these type of activities
[3:13:02] continues on for a significant
[3:13:03] period of time which you can
[3:13:07] imagine if your next door
[3:13:07] neighbor you would be impacted
[3:13:11] by trucking by dust and noise
[3:13:12] for an indefinite period of
[3:13:12] time.
[3:13:16] So we believe there should be
[3:13:20] some requirements for adjusting
[3:13:21] the grading With respect to
[3:13:22] drainage which counsel actually
[3:13:25] mentioned.
[3:13:26] I want to briefly mention that
[3:13:27] we understand that they are
[3:13:31] discharging something and I'm
[3:13:31] sorry that does conclude your
[3:13:35] time.
[3:13:35] If you have any written
[3:13:36] statements we can definitely
[3:13:37] distribute those to
[3:13:37] the council.
[3:13:40] I just wanted to mention that
[3:13:40] the amount of discharge is
[3:13:41] significantly higher with
[3:13:44] the curb capacity.
[3:13:45] Thank you for that concluding
[3:13:45] statement.
[3:13:46] Michael Feinstein.
[3:13:52] Michael Feinstein And then our
[3:13:53] last public comment is Bernard
[3:13:56] Siegel That's here in council
[3:14:15] chambers.
[3:14:15] >> Good afternoon, MR.
[3:14:16] PRESIDENT.
[3:14:19] And for the same for
[3:14:24] the members of the Council.
[3:14:25] I reside at 2406 via Zito's
[3:14:29] court which is property on
[3:14:29] the street adjacent to this
[3:14:30] development.
[3:14:34] Early on I spoke with MR.
[3:14:35] Faust, the architect involved
[3:14:35] in this project.
[3:14:38] I asked him to identify who
[3:14:43] the owners actually would be in
[3:14:44] the homes that are being built
[3:14:45] and he refused to give me that
[3:14:45] information.
[3:14:48] I asked MR. Fosh if he would
[3:14:49] give me a copy of the agreement
[3:14:52] between him and the owners that
[3:14:53] would show his authority to act
[3:14:57] on behalf of the owners and he
[3:14:58] would not furnish that to me
[3:14:58] either.
[3:14:59] He referred me to a man by
[3:15:02] the name of Scott Sennett who
[3:15:02] happens to be the managing
[3:15:03] partner of a limited
[3:15:07] partnership called the Cielo Ma
[3:15:07] Project.
[3:15:08] I met with him.
[3:15:11] Now this is the limited
[3:15:12] partnership that was reputed to
[3:15:16] be from MR. Faucheux, the owner
[3:15:16] of the actual parcel that is
[3:15:17] being developed and is
[3:15:21] the subject of seeking these
[3:15:21] permits.
[3:15:22] MR. Sennett refused to disclose
[3:15:26] to me give me a copy of
[3:15:27] the escrow instructions that
[3:15:31] showed who the limited who were
[3:15:31] the owners of these things.
[3:15:32] So to this day the applicant so
[3:15:35] called applicant has refused to
[3:15:36] tell us who the actual
[3:15:40] individual owners of these six
[3:15:40] homes are going to be.
[3:15:41] Now we have to have that
[3:15:45] information And now MR. Fosh is
[3:15:49] presumably seeking a permit on
[3:15:50] behalf of people.
[3:15:51] >> That does conclude your
[3:15:51] time, sir.
[3:15:53] I have one but six parties
[3:15:54] exceeding to me.
[3:15:58] I have nobody who ceded time to
[3:15:58] you in my records.
[3:15:59] Sorry I'm up here.
[3:16:02] There's nobody that seated time
[3:16:03] in your records.
[3:16:04] >> If they can raise their hand
[3:16:04] we can get a speaker slip from
[3:16:05] them.
[3:16:08] I have MR. Doheny I think is
[3:16:09] here to share the time to me.
[3:16:10] >> MR..
[3:16:12] Don't be seated.
[3:16:13] His time and his speaker slip
[3:16:13] to Lynn Schenck.
[3:16:17] He ceded his time to Lynn
[3:16:17] Schenck.
[3:16:18] >> I can't hear you.
[3:16:18] I'm sorry.
[3:16:22] He ceded his time to Lynn
[3:16:22] Schenck.
[3:16:23] Myself will come down and talk
[3:16:25] to you and show you
[3:16:26] the speaker's slip.
[3:16:27] I actually need more time to
[3:16:30] show you that MR. Bush does not
[3:16:31] have the authority legal
[3:16:32] authority to speak on behalf of
[3:16:36] this applicant.
[3:16:36] >> Understood, sir.
[3:16:37] You If there's anybody else
[3:16:38] that can see due time then they
[3:16:41] can give you time.
[3:16:42] But there's no other speakers
[3:16:43] up here and I have to be before
[3:16:45] I can.
[3:16:46] >> Must expressed the hope that
[3:16:46] if the applicant.
[3:16:50] I'm sorry, sir.
[3:16:51] I do have to move on to
[3:16:52] the next speakers.
[3:16:57] Do we go to um I'm going to be
[3:16:58] looking for an update.
[3:17:02] We're going to go to the folks
[3:17:03] participating remotely get take
[3:17:05] their comments and then we'll
[3:17:06] circle back with the two
[3:17:11] parties going to those
[3:17:11] participating remotely I'm
[3:17:15] sorry the five minute timer We
[3:17:15] have three speakers in
[3:17:16] the queue.
[3:17:19] Tony if you can please unmute.
[3:17:24] >> Hello?
[3:17:24] Can you hear me?
[3:17:25] Yes, Please proceed.
[3:17:26] Hey I just wanted to say that
[3:17:29] I'm in support of the residents
[3:17:29] of La Hoya.
[3:17:30] I'm not acquiescing and I hope
[3:17:33] that the council won't
[3:17:34] acquiesce to the demands of
[3:17:34] the developers.
[3:17:37] I know from my own personal
[3:17:38] experience how much our living
[3:17:42] conditions are affected by
[3:17:43] incessant development and a lot
[3:17:44] of times the development
[3:17:48] doesn't necessarily support
[3:17:49] the community and it doesn't
[3:17:52] give the local residents
[3:17:53] anything particularly
[3:17:53] beneficial.
[3:17:54] And in this case it sounds like
[3:17:58] that's what a lot of the local
[3:17:59] residents are saying.
[3:18:02] So I hope that this town can be
[3:18:03] one that continues to
[3:18:03] accommodate the people that
[3:18:04] live here, not the people that
[3:18:06] want to build here.
[3:18:07] And it's very quickly becoming
[3:18:11] a town that is building homes
[3:18:16] for private equity to sit and
[3:18:17] hang on to.
[3:18:17] I know that was the case.
[3:18:20] It was reported back in 2024 in
[3:18:24] the Union-Tribune that almost
[3:18:25] 19% 20% of the homes sold in
[3:18:29] Georgia were for private
[3:18:29] equity.
[3:18:30] So I just have some concerns
[3:18:33] about especially what the last
[3:18:34] gentleman who spoke raised
[3:18:38] about not knowing who
[3:18:39] the purchasers of these
[3:18:43] developed lots would be.
[3:18:44] Yeah, that's a that's very
[3:18:48] concerning.
[3:18:48] >> So anyway, thanks for your
[3:18:49] time.
[3:18:49] Thank you.
[3:18:49] Next is Hector.
[3:18:52] If you can please unmute.
[3:18:53] >> After that our final speaker
[3:18:54] is 8700.
[3:18:58] Thanks for taking my call.
[3:18:59] Hey Mike.
[3:19:02] She's like a great person in
[3:19:03] San Diego.
[3:19:07] Give her a break And she says
[3:19:08] this is the fight for even
[3:19:13] the rich guys in La Hoya.
[3:19:14] Yeah, if there's say guys in
[3:19:17] Bay Park they just built
[3:19:18] the four story u next to my
[3:19:23] neighbor So my driveway looking
[3:19:24] into you know it's terrible he
[3:19:27] couldn't do nothing about it
[3:19:27] man.
[3:19:28] He didn't have the millions of
[3:19:33] lawyers though So I know the La
[3:19:34] La Hoya game is you know, it's
[3:19:37] a terrible session.
[3:19:37] Do those guys do this?
[3:19:38] Do that but just take it could
[3:19:43] be like a lot of Black Lives
[3:19:43] Matter and then they turn it
[3:19:47] into a duty party yourself.
[3:19:48] Who knows how to apply it But
[3:19:50] it's going to be a battle.
[3:19:51] I say take the law.
[3:19:54] You guys give them a grain of
[3:19:55] salt.
[3:19:55] Let them have them.
[3:19:56] Let them have their way because
[3:20:01] they all got buddies and
[3:20:01] they're older defend them And
[3:20:02] it's more and it's going to be
[3:20:05] a loss Who you know what's
[3:20:06] going to happen there Obviously
[3:20:09] the lawyers are definitely
[3:20:09] conceal and reveal the truth
[3:20:14] That's what they get paid for.
[3:20:14] They're going to lie.
[3:20:15] That's the whole game that Oh
[3:20:22] good luck with your life.
[3:20:22] Thank you.
[3:20:23] That concludes your comments.
[3:20:25] Oh yeah.
[3:20:25] Thank you.
[3:20:32] Next is 8700 8700 if you
[3:20:33] complete.
[3:20:38] >> There you go.
[3:20:39] Sorry about that.
[3:20:39] Thank you.
[3:20:39] City clerk.
[3:20:40] City clerk.
[3:20:40] I apologize.
[3:20:42] Is that 1 or 2 minutes?
[3:20:43] It's a minute and a half a
[3:20:47] minute and a half.
[3:20:48] Thank you so much, Joy.
[3:20:51] As soon you are to First of
[3:20:52] all, I've just come out of
[3:20:53] the gate saying this that I
[3:20:56] agree with the staff and
[3:20:57] they're recommending that you
[3:20:57] deny the appeal.
[3:21:01] Now a couple of things I want
[3:21:01] to say as I live in District
[3:21:05] three but I try to get a stay
[3:21:06] abreast of what's happening in
[3:21:10] our entire San Diego area as
[3:21:11] best I can by this kind of
[3:21:15] process Really, really upsets
[3:21:15] me.
[3:21:16] And the reason it does is
[3:21:20] because, you know, appeals are
[3:21:21] good and they're not too good
[3:21:21] at the same time.
[3:21:25] But what causes these appeals
[3:21:26] is they begin to listen to
[3:21:30] the parties involved.
[3:21:30] I feel very sad and very upset
[3:21:31] at the same time because they
[3:21:35] see this this this push pull
[3:21:36] this fight in a negative way
[3:21:39] between the parties who are
[3:21:40] involved, whether it's
[3:21:45] neighbors or you know, making
[3:21:45] the appeal the developers,
[3:21:46] whatever and you choose of
[3:21:50] the word somebody use the word
[3:21:50] today secrecy and
[3:21:51] nontransparent And there are
[3:21:54] some other very negative word
[3:21:57] to use And yet she was I
[3:21:58] believe which one she was
[3:21:59] asking that if we could have a
[3:22:02] neighbor who had neighborly
[3:22:03] good faith collaboration.
[3:22:07] Well, you know where was that
[3:22:08] we're has that been in in a lot
[3:22:11] of cases that just doesn't
[3:22:12] happen.
[3:22:12] So that's what we want.
[3:22:17] We want all these parties to
[3:22:17] sit together and collaborate
[3:22:22] and share and come to the good.
[3:22:22] My apologies.
[3:22:25] And that does conclude the five
[3:22:25] minute timer.
[3:22:26] >> So that does include public
[3:22:26] comment on this item.
[3:22:27] All right.
[3:22:29] Thank you, City Clerk So at
[3:22:30] least we got through that part
[3:22:30] of that.
[3:22:31] So where do we stand with
[3:22:34] the appellant and the applicant
[3:22:35] Chandler Slavin On behalf of
[3:22:39] the applicant we respectfully
[3:22:40] request that the hearing be
[3:22:41] continued today and not be
[3:22:44] extended.
[3:22:45] Did the Appellant We've reached
[3:22:49] out multiple times and this is
[3:22:50] the first time we've heard from
[3:22:50] them in six months They do not
[3:22:53] have their civil engineer nor
[3:22:54] their clients here We are
[3:22:58] accepting of the conditions
[3:22:59] that staff took a lot of time
[3:23:00] and effort to write and we
[3:23:03] would like our hearing to
[3:23:04] continue and the appeal to be
[3:23:04] withdrawn today.
[3:23:07] Thank you.
[3:23:07] >> All right.
[3:23:12] The appellant realizing that
[3:23:17] puts you in an awkward position
[3:23:17] .
[3:23:18] >> I'm sorry could you come to
[3:23:22] the mic just so everybody else
[3:23:22] can hear?
[3:23:23] Yes, of course.
[3:23:29] Thank you.
[3:23:30] We are not going to withdraw
[3:23:34] our appeal today if
[3:23:35] the applicant or the applicant
[3:23:39] has not agreed to continue
[3:23:39] the hearing to a future date.
[3:23:40] I put that to the council but I
[3:23:44] understand Council PRESIDENT
[3:23:45] LaCava your hesitancy to do
[3:23:45] that So we are prepared.
[3:23:49] I am prepared to continue with
[3:23:50] the hearing if that is
[3:23:53] the direction given to me.
[3:23:54] >> I believe my clients
[3:23:59] the Cavanaugh's are online so
[3:23:59] they are also here with us
[3:24:03] today.
[3:24:04] All right so we'll give you so
[3:24:08] that they reach out to you
[3:24:08] during this hearing?
[3:24:09] >> No, not yet, no.
[3:24:13] We spoke with Bill Prior to
[3:24:14] the hearing.
[3:24:14] Okay.
[3:24:15] So for the second time that was
[3:24:15] the question I was asking is
[3:24:17] whether the two sides could sit
[3:24:17] down not thinking there was
[3:24:18] anything fanciful or rose
[3:24:22] colored glasses that would be
[3:24:22] resolved.
[3:24:23] But I remember the good words
[3:24:27] of fresco, right.
[3:24:27] Who else?
[3:24:31] Eric Netherland that said Just
[3:24:32] talk if there's an opportunity
[3:24:33] to talk But people make their
[3:24:36] choices so I will invite you
[3:24:37] with your 15 minutes to make
[3:24:41] your presentation.
[3:24:41] Excellent.
[3:24:42] Thank you very much.
[3:24:42] Well good afternoon again.
[3:24:46] I'm sure this doesn't happen
[3:24:47] often but you know it's always
[3:24:51] a good time as I previously
[3:24:51] mentioned, my name is Anna and
[3:24:52] i represent the appellant's
[3:24:55] doctor, MRS. Cavanaugh who live
[3:24:56] at 8270 five La Hoya Shores
[3:24:56] Drive downstream neighbors of
[3:25:00] the proposed project.
[3:25:01] We were here today to request a
[3:25:01] continuance but given that that
[3:25:05] is not an option on the table,
[3:25:05] we will continue and we
[3:25:09] respectfully request that you
[3:25:10] after hearing my presentation
[3:25:14] decide to continue and require
[3:25:15] future study future analysis of
[3:25:19] the applicant, the Cabinets
[3:25:20] appeal challenges the Planning
[3:25:20] Commission findings on drainage
[3:25:21] adequacy and the applicant's
[3:25:25] legal authority with respect to
[3:25:25] the private roadway Kyra.
[3:25:29] >> First go to the applicant
[3:25:29] has hired a third party
[3:25:33] engineer who reviewed
[3:25:34] the grading and drainage plans
[3:25:34] provided by the applicant and
[3:25:38] has found substantive and
[3:25:39] legitimate concerns with
[3:25:39] the drainage and grading of
[3:25:43] report.
[3:25:43] The project proposes to
[3:25:46] discharge approximately 6.7
[3:25:47] cubic feet per second of
[3:25:51] stormwater towards Kyra First
[3:25:51] cota and the Hoya Shores Drive.
[3:25:55] This equates to roughly 50
[3:25:56] gallons of water per second or
[3:25:59] approximately 3000 gallons of
[3:26:00] stormwater per minute during a
[3:26:03] storm event.
[3:26:04] This is the equivalent of
[3:26:05] draining a typical residential
[3:26:08] swimming pool into the streets
[3:26:09] system every few minutes
[3:26:10] creating a concentrated
[3:26:14] discharge that raises
[3:26:14] substantial concerns regarding
[3:26:15] the downstream impacts street
[3:26:18] capacity and public safety.
[3:26:19] This is the Hoya Shores Drive a
[3:26:20] very significant roadway in
[3:26:23] this part of the town.
[3:26:24] >> It is our engineers belief
[3:26:28] that the curb cannot handle
[3:26:28] this amount of water.
[3:26:29] We are requesting that
[3:26:33] the applicant perform
[3:26:34] downstream analysis for
[3:26:34] the water being discharged onto
[3:26:38] the Hoya Shores Drive.
[3:26:39] The current drainage study that
[3:26:40] was presented with this product
[3:26:41] does not currently contain this
[3:26:51] downstream analysis.
[3:26:52] The Cavanaugh residents please
[3:26:58] continue.
[3:26:59] >> Perfect.
[3:26:59] So here you can see
[3:27:04] the proposed project location.
[3:27:05] The Cavanaugh residence is at
[3:27:05] the corner of q four Scotia and
[3:27:09] La Hoya Shores Drive at
[3:27:10] the furthermost edge You can
[3:27:11] see it there on the far left.
[3:27:14] It is particular It is also
[3:27:15] downhill of La Hoya Shores
[3:27:18] Drive so therefore it is
[3:27:18] particularly vulnerable to any
[3:27:19] concentrated discharges or
[3:27:20] failures in the proposed
[3:27:23] drainage system serving
[3:27:23] the project and adjoining
[3:27:24] parcels.
[3:27:27] My clients and other adjacent
[3:27:28] homeowners would be directly
[3:27:29] affected by any surface or
[3:27:33] subsurface discharge rooted
[3:27:33] through that corridor.
[3:27:34] The Kavanagh third party water
[3:27:38] resources engineer conducted a
[3:27:38] study of the stormwater
[3:27:43] assessment and a and produced a
[3:27:47] memo reflecting its five
[3:27:47] findings and proposed
[3:27:48] conditions.
[3:27:48] A copy of said memo was
[3:27:53] provided last week and I
[3:27:54] believe you all have a copy in
[3:27:58] hand when you go back can you
[3:28:03] actually reverse please?
[3:28:08] >> The key concerns identified
[3:28:09] by the engineer were
[3:28:09] the following Western boundary
[3:28:13] routing the brown ditch along
[3:28:14] the western boundary is shown
[3:28:14] routing directly into a 12 inch
[3:28:15] storm drain on Caiaphas.
[3:28:18] Go to bypassing the West Basin
[3:28:19] and undermining q100 mitigation
[3:28:23] and water quality treatment.
[3:28:23] Prior versions also reference
[3:28:24] prior versions of
[3:28:24] the applicant's plans also
[3:28:28] referenced a pump to lift flows
[3:28:28] to Basin b one But current
[3:28:32] documents lack the clarity on
[3:28:33] whether or not that pump is
[3:28:33] there or not.
[3:28:34] Additionally, the engineer
[3:28:37] found that the Basin two is
[3:28:38] marginally undersized for water
[3:28:42] quality performance.
[3:28:42] Also a conjunctive use basin
[3:28:46] shows inadequate freeboard for
[3:28:47] q100 water events and appears
[3:28:48] to rely on low flow under drain
[3:28:52] orifices for q 100 discharge
[3:28:52] which is not allowed.
[3:28:53] Conjunctive use just means
[3:28:57] shared uses for both stormwater
[3:28:58] treatment and collection during
[3:29:01] storm events.
[3:29:02] Pump design and failure
[3:29:02] contingencies If a pump is used
[3:29:07] to lift western flows to Basin
[3:29:07] b one the applicant's
[3:29:11] submittals lack design sizing,
[3:29:11] housing power reliability and
[3:29:12] redundancy of this pump.
[3:29:16] Emergency overflow analysis has
[3:29:16] also absent from its report.
[3:29:21] And lastly the 12 inch storm
[3:29:22] drain proposed in Cairo for
[3:29:26] Skoda omits hydraulic sizing
[3:29:26] and in the capture analysis And
[3:29:30] as I previously mentioned that
[3:29:31] downstream water analysis of
[3:29:35] the flows coming off from
[3:29:35] the project site and flowing
[3:29:44] into the higher shores drive in
[3:29:45] addition to the question as to
[3:29:45] the drainage design and
[3:29:49] the storm water deficiencies
[3:29:50] identified by the third party
[3:29:54] water resources engineer.
[3:29:55] There remains the issue of
[3:29:56] the ownership of Cairo First go
[3:29:59] to this private roadway and
[3:29:59] whether or not the applicant
[3:30:00] has the right to utilize Cairo
[3:30:04] for Skoda for the installation
[3:30:04] repair and replacement of
[3:30:08] public utilities without
[3:30:08] the consent of the other
[3:30:13] co-owners including Cavanaugh's
[3:30:13] .
[3:30:14] According to the document that
[3:30:17] was referenced document number
[3:30:18] 43 967 the original grant deed
[3:30:22] It states that an interest is
[3:30:23] granted in the property in
[3:30:27] interest which implies for
[3:30:28] ownership.
[3:30:29] The at the appellants advocate
[3:30:32] the hire for Skoda is not an
[3:30:33] easement for use by
[3:30:36] the developer but instead it is
[3:30:37] privately owned in undivided
[3:30:40] fee interest by five co-owners
[3:30:41] including the Cavanaugh's.
[3:30:45] There is no record it easement
[3:30:46] burdening that parcel in favor
[3:30:50] of the projects proposed
[3:30:50] private stormwater discharge
[3:30:51] over the other owners interests
[3:30:56] further Kenya for Skoda has its
[3:30:57] own assessor's parcel number
[3:31:00] and for many years the county
[3:31:00] tax collector issued a secured
[3:31:01] tax bill specifically for this
[3:31:05] private right of way In
[3:31:06] California, paying property
[3:31:06] taxes is a strong indicia of
[3:31:10] fee interest.
[3:31:10] To date the applicant has not
[3:31:11] received written consent from
[3:31:15] the other co-owners for
[3:31:15] installing private drainage and
[3:31:16] sewer improvements proposed for
[3:31:20] the project from my clients
[3:31:21] the Cavanaugh's or any of
[3:31:22] the other property owners along
[3:31:24] Kyra for Skoda we therefore
[3:31:25] state there remains fundamental
[3:31:29] authority and an access
[3:31:30] concerns that should be
[3:31:30] resolved before any city
[3:31:34] approvals of the project
[3:31:34] dependent are given that are
[3:31:35] dependent on the use of this
[3:31:52] private right of way that
[3:31:52] the third party engineer also
[3:31:56] provided corrective conditions
[3:31:57] in its report.
[3:32:02] Here are a few Prior to
[3:32:02] granting approval we recommend
[3:32:06] again that the Council continue
[3:32:07] to study these conditions and
[3:32:08] whether or not they actually
[3:32:11] meet with the concerns
[3:32:12] addressed today.
[3:32:16] But first we require we request
[3:32:17] that the Council require final
[3:32:17] stamp plans that positively
[3:32:18] route all tributary flows from
[3:32:21] the Western brow ditch into
[3:32:26] basin be one also before
[3:32:27] permits are issued We require
[3:32:31] detention provisions
[3:32:32] demonstrating one foot of
[3:32:32] freeboard above q 100 ponding
[3:32:36] in each basin and no reliance
[3:32:39] on under drain or orifice for q
[3:32:39] 100 discharge condition
[3:32:40] approval on field pump design
[3:32:43] peak flow head calculations
[3:32:44] exposure and power reliability
[3:32:45] emergency overflow routing and
[3:32:49] redundancy including a backup
[3:32:49] pump for the Western system If
[3:32:54] a pump is used And again is
[3:32:54] there going to be a water pump,
[3:32:55] is there not?
[3:32:56] What is going to happen for
[3:33:01] this water flow require
[3:33:01] complete hydraulic sizing and
[3:33:05] inlet capture analysis for
[3:33:06] the 12 inch water line,
[3:33:07] reconcile alignment across plan
[3:33:10] sets and demonstrate
[3:33:11] the concentrated discharge at
[3:33:12] La Hoya shorts Drive is safely
[3:33:12] accommodated in the public
[3:33:15] right away.
[3:33:16] We maintain that it is not
[3:33:17] clear from the applicant's
[3:33:21] plans whether or not it will be
[3:33:21] safe for that amount of water
[3:33:22] to be discharged into La Hoya
[3:33:25] Shore's Drive.
[3:33:26] >> We'd also like the applicant
[3:33:30] to confirm all bio filtration
[3:33:30] facilities meet minimum water
[3:33:31] quality sizing including
[3:33:32] the correction of any
[3:33:40] undersized.
[3:33:40] The applicant believes that
[3:33:45] there are significant questions
[3:33:45] about the drainage studies that
[3:33:46] were done and submitted to
[3:33:50] the city staff for review and
[3:33:51] therefore we would like
[3:33:51] the Council to continue this
[3:33:55] hearing to further analyze
[3:33:55] the applicant's plans and tell
[3:33:59] us whether or not the plans
[3:34:00] adequately address storm water
[3:34:00] concerns.
[3:34:05] I, I would now like to give
[3:34:06] some of my time to my clients
[3:34:12] if they are available on Zoom.
[3:34:17] Yes we are available.
[3:34:17] Hi.
[3:34:22] Let me know when to start.
[3:34:23] We can hear you here in council
[3:34:23] chambers.
[3:34:26] Okay.
[3:34:27] All right.
[3:34:28] Well thank you to the council
[3:34:33] members and and I'm already
[3:34:33] Cavenagh and my wife Lynn and
[3:34:34] we live here and lived here for
[3:34:36] a long time and we are just
[3:34:37] trying to do what's right for
[3:34:41] the overall community here.
[3:34:42] I was very disappointed to hear
[3:34:43] the applicant's lawyer say that
[3:34:46] they had reached out to us.
[3:34:46] That is absolutely not true.
[3:34:47] We have reached out to them
[3:34:50] multiple multiple times And
[3:34:51] what we have found is when they
[3:34:52] finally did respond it was
[3:34:55] bullying barely responsive,
[3:34:56] basically saying they could do
[3:35:00] whatever they want and that
[3:35:01] basically that was that.
[3:35:02] So not transparent at all.
[3:35:06] We did engage some engineers to
[3:35:06] look at this.
[3:35:07] We went with one The engineer
[3:35:11] had a difficult time because
[3:35:11] the plans kept changing in fact
[3:35:12] throughout this whole process
[3:35:16] is not clear what the final
[3:35:16] result is going to be which for
[3:35:20] an engineer it makes it very
[3:35:21] difficult to estimate
[3:35:25] the accuracy of the plans and
[3:35:26] how that will store it out.
[3:35:26] We asked them about
[3:35:30] the maintenance and that's of
[3:35:31] course very important when
[3:35:35] you're talking about situations
[3:35:36] in which a drain can be
[3:35:36] blocked.
[3:35:37] Maintenance can be very
[3:35:40] important and there is no
[3:35:40] answer on that.
[3:35:41] And now I begin to understand
[3:35:44] with hearing from other
[3:35:45] neighbors about the fact that
[3:35:46] it's an issue if they have
[3:35:49] the legal authority to act on
[3:35:50] behalf of the whoever
[3:35:53] the owners are which is not up
[3:35:54] to us but we need to know that
[3:35:59] there is some maintenance plan
[3:35:59] for a complex set of drainage
[3:36:04] designs such as this.
[3:36:08] We need to see those new
[3:36:09] additions.
[3:36:13] We had not seen those shown by
[3:36:14] the city city staffers
[3:36:14] mentioned just now and with all
[3:36:19] due respect, MR. LaCava, the if
[3:36:23] I was a seeing a patient and
[3:36:24] said here here's a new medicine
[3:36:29] read this 20 pages of Plant ten
[3:36:32] and decide right now if you
[3:36:33] want to take this medicine that
[3:36:33] would be malpractice.
[3:36:37] So I think we need time to look
[3:36:38] at what is proposed And I'm a
[3:36:39] little worried when I see
[3:36:42] the things that are proposed
[3:36:43] because it all says to be
[3:36:44] approved by the city engineer.
[3:36:44] It's almost like we have to
[3:36:47] approve the project and started
[3:36:47] to be able to see what
[3:36:52] the final plans are and then by
[3:36:53] then it MAY be too late to know
[3:36:53] if they're going to be adequate
[3:36:57] for this situation.
[3:36:57] So I think a continuance is
[3:36:58] absolutely indicated so we can
[3:37:03] address these issues and was as
[3:37:04] raised by COUNCILMAN When
[3:37:06] Schenck has the city engineer
[3:37:07] weighed in on this as of yet?
[3:37:08] I'd be pretty uncomfortable
[3:37:12] kicking that down the road and
[3:37:12] saying well they'll review it
[3:37:13] and make sure everything is
[3:37:16] okay by them.
[3:37:17] We understand that the easement
[3:37:21] versus the title that that's a
[3:37:22] dispute that the city doesn't
[3:37:26] want to get into But we think
[3:37:27] it's very important And again
[3:37:31] trying to approach
[3:37:32] the applicants they've been
[3:37:32] bullying and just say we
[3:37:35] basically can do whatever we
[3:37:36] want will tear out all your
[3:37:37] bushes don't have to put it
[3:37:37] back Now we understand that
[3:37:40] that's not actually the case
[3:37:40] either.
[3:37:41] So we would request further
[3:37:45] time to look at this further
[3:37:45] analysis.
[3:37:46] We MAY have to get
[3:37:50] the engineers reengaged because
[3:37:50] the plans keep changing and
[3:37:55] they couldn't actually tell how
[3:37:56] adequate it was.
[3:37:56] But as you heard from
[3:38:00] the attorney, a lot of serious
[3:38:01] issues are raised just based on
[3:38:01] the information that they had
[3:38:05] provided to them very little by
[3:38:05] the applicant other available
[3:38:10] online So respectfully we would
[3:38:11] ask that this be continued
[3:38:11] because we think these are very
[3:38:15] important issues and for
[3:38:16] the good of this community they
[3:38:19] need to be resolved before
[3:38:20] proceeding with a very
[3:38:21] substantial project such as
[3:38:21] this.
[3:38:27] Thank you.
[3:38:28] Any other concluding remarks or
[3:38:32] so some time on the clock?
[3:38:33] >> If not we will If I would
[3:38:37] like to give some concluding
[3:38:38] remarks then cede whatever time
[3:38:39] I have left to Bernie Siegel
[3:38:42] That is a lot of your time is
[3:38:42] running.
[3:38:43] >> So All right.
[3:38:43] Well, thank you.
[3:38:47] Members of the council for our
[3:38:47] hearing our hearing to hear in
[3:38:51] our appeal today.
[3:38:52] >> We believe that there are
[3:38:52] substantive drainage issues and
[3:38:55] legal questions surrounding
[3:39:00] the applicant's ability to
[3:39:01] perform this work in the public
[3:39:02] right in the private right of
[3:39:05] way as well as the applicant's
[3:39:05] ability to control stormwater
[3:39:06] runoff from the project site
[3:39:10] Applicant's appellants stated
[3:39:10] intent is a responsible
[3:39:11] approval of this project
[3:39:15] The protects downstream
[3:39:15] properties while allowing
[3:39:16] compliant drainage for design
[3:39:16] design.
[3:39:20] We are not in a we are not in
[3:39:20] total objection to the project
[3:39:24] we just have questions that
[3:39:24] need answers.
[3:39:25] There are gaps in the analysis
[3:39:29] and the applicant has not been
[3:39:30] able to answer those to our
[3:39:30] satisfaction.
[3:39:36] >> Thank you.
[3:39:37] All right.
[3:39:37] If you have very little time if
[3:39:41] you'd like to come up there's
[3:39:46] 30s that we have to continue.
[3:39:46] Can you tell Bernard he only
[3:39:50] has 30s so So that he knows I
[3:39:55] believe that the count this
[3:39:56] council does not have
[3:40:00] jurisdiction to hear project
[3:40:01] that's being proposed by MR.
[3:40:04] Bush because he the owner of
[3:40:05] record is still the limited
[3:40:05] partnership which was
[3:40:08] the original according to
[3:40:09] the Internet original applicant
[3:40:10] the named applicant in this
[3:40:14] proceeding and MR. Fosh does
[3:40:15] has nothing in writing that's
[3:40:18] been displayed publicly to show
[3:40:19] that he has authority to do any
[3:40:20] of these things or file any
[3:40:23] documents or speak on behalf of
[3:40:24] the actual and the actual
[3:40:27] members the six members Thank
[3:40:28] you for showing any authority
[3:40:29] your time has concluded sir.
[3:40:29] Thank you for that concluding
[3:40:32] remark.
[3:40:38] >> All right now give
[3:40:38] the applicant equal
[3:40:39] opportunity.
[3:40:43] >> Does the applicant want to
[3:40:44] speak up for the records And
[3:40:47] you have up to 15 minutes for
[3:40:47] your presentation.
[3:40:48] >> Thank you very much.
[3:40:52] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and
[3:40:53] distinguished Council members.
[3:40:53] My name is Brian Will.
[3:40:57] I'm the architect for
[3:40:57] the Claymore subdivision along
[3:40:58] with my business partner Andy
[3:40:59] Fortune who was previously
[3:41:04] mentioned.
[3:41:04] I'll be brief What you're
[3:41:09] looking at is a subdivision of
[3:41:09] the proposed development as it
[3:41:14] would appear within the fabric
[3:41:14] of Illinois shores six new
[3:41:15] custom homes on a four and a
[3:41:18] half acre site each designed
[3:41:19] with an argument home homeowner
[3:41:23] who has been directly involved
[3:41:24] in every stage of this project
[3:41:24] from the concept through
[3:41:28] permitting.
[3:41:28] Admittedly these are six
[3:41:33] gracious homes but in a
[3:41:34] neighborhood surrounded by
[3:41:38] gracious homes we're here today
[3:41:38] on an appeal that centers
[3:41:39] solely on the stormwater
[3:41:39] drainage.
[3:41:41] However, I'd like to briefly
[3:41:42] walk through the projects
[3:41:43] context and community history
[3:41:47] before turning to the technical
[3:41:47] question.
[3:41:48] Next slide please.
[3:41:51] This overhead view shows
[3:41:51] the six proposed proposed lot
[3:41:52] footprints in the context of
[3:41:56] the surrounding neighborhood.
[3:41:57] The site at the sits at the end
[3:42:02] of Cadel Cielo from the North
[3:42:02] and q four Scotter from
[3:42:05] the west.
[3:42:06] >> Each of the six lots has
[3:42:06] been designed to be consistent
[3:42:10] with the scale and character of
[3:42:11] surrounding properties floor
[3:42:12] area ratios across the project
[3:42:15] range from 0.18 to 0.33 well
[3:42:20] below the zoning code maximum
[3:42:21] and within the range you see on
[3:42:21] the neighboring parcels shown
[3:42:25] on this plan all lots comply
[3:42:26] with the applicable setback and
[3:42:30] zoning requirements with no
[3:42:30] zone, with no variances or
[3:42:31] deviations requested.
[3:42:35] This is not a developer driven
[3:42:35] projects.
[3:42:36] Six families came together to
[3:42:39] form an llc so that they could
[3:42:43] purchase this property Once six
[3:42:44] parcels are created by this
[3:42:48] action they can take individual
[3:42:49] ownership but there's no other
[3:42:49] way to do that besides to form
[3:42:53] the llc Previously mentioned
[3:42:54] every family at this table has
[3:42:54] been personally involved in
[3:42:57] this project for the past four
[3:42:58] years.
[3:42:58] That personal investment is
[3:43:02] reflected in how this project
[3:43:02] has been handled within
[3:43:03] the community.
[3:43:06] This project has attended not
[3:43:10] less than seven community
[3:43:11] community subcommittee and
[3:43:15] local planning group meetings
[3:43:16] culminating in unanimous
[3:43:20] support from the local planning
[3:43:20] group numerous one on one
[3:43:24] meetings with neighbors
[3:43:25] listening to their concerns,
[3:43:25] incorporating suggestions and
[3:43:29] making changes even after
[3:43:30] receiving unanimous approval
[3:43:34] from the planning condition
[3:43:34] Commission, our team has
[3:43:35] continued to work in good faith
[3:43:39] with neighbors relocate a
[3:43:40] swimming pool and increase
[3:43:41] sound walls to address neighbor
[3:43:44] noise concerns over ordinary
[3:43:45] residential use offered to
[3:43:49] voluntarily restrict
[3:43:49] construction hours to minimize
[3:43:50] disruption to neighbors and
[3:43:54] drafting an easement to allow
[3:43:54] one neighbor to continue
[3:43:55] enjoying some encroaching
[3:43:59] landscape on our property.
[3:43:59] None of these items were
[3:44:00] required as part of our
[3:44:04] approval but necessary in my
[3:44:05] client's eyes as to be good
[3:44:09] neighbors.
[3:44:09] The appeal before you today is
[3:44:10] focused entirely on stormwater
[3:44:10] drainage.
[3:44:13] We have both our land use
[3:44:14] attorney and our civil engineer
[3:44:14] on hand to answer any technical
[3:44:19] questions on the matter But let
[3:44:19] me first orient you to our
[3:44:20] drainage design.
[3:44:23] >> Could I see the next slide?
[3:44:28] >> The site drains from east to
[3:44:28] west.
[3:44:29] >> It's on the low lying slopes
[3:44:32] in La Hoya Shores the three
[3:44:33] lots in yellow and the majority
[3:44:37] of the cul de sac drain to
[3:44:38] the bayou basin at the top of
[3:44:42] the page in orange the lower
[3:44:42] three lots drain towards
[3:44:48] the green bio base and and then
[3:44:50] any access is routed underneath
[3:44:50] q four scudder to the curb cut
[3:44:51] that was previously a curb
[3:44:52] outlet that was previously
[3:44:57] mentioned.
[3:44:58] >> The project approval already
[3:44:59] carries a condition requiring
[3:45:03] the stormwater system to be
[3:45:03] designed by ministerial permit
[3:45:07] to the satisfaction of the city
[3:45:07] engineer.
[3:45:08] You've heard today that
[3:45:12] conditions were updating and
[3:45:13] updated to specifically address
[3:45:17] the items mentioned in
[3:45:17] the appellants expert's memo
[3:45:22] and we really just want to
[3:45:23] thank staff for getting that
[3:45:26] update done.
[3:45:27] These are all items that really
[3:45:31] reside in the ministerial
[3:45:32] permits where technical
[3:45:32] questions of calculations
[3:45:36] should be answered.
[3:45:36] >> Drainage has always moved
[3:45:41] from East to west across
[3:45:41] the site and now with this
[3:45:42] project we finally have
[3:45:45] the opportunity to improve it.
[3:45:50] So council members we believe
[3:45:51] the record before you clearly
[3:45:51] supports the city's approval of
[3:45:54] this project.
[3:45:55] The stormwater system has been
[3:45:56] designed to meet and exceed
[3:46:00] applicable standards.
[3:46:00] The community process has been
[3:46:01] thorough and transparent.
[3:46:04] Six families are ready to build
[3:46:05] homes and become neighbors in
[3:46:05] the community.
[3:46:08] They clearly care about.
[3:46:09] We respectfully ask that you
[3:46:13] deny this appeal and affirm
[3:46:14] the Planning Commission's
[3:46:14] approval before our time
[3:46:15] expires.
[3:46:18] I would like to introduce one
[3:46:19] of the six families whose home
[3:46:19] depends on your decision today.
[3:46:23] Natasha Alice, a future
[3:46:28] homeowner at Cielo Mart.
[3:46:28] >> Thank you.
[3:46:29] Good afternoon.
[3:46:32] PRESIDENT LaCava and everybody
[3:46:33] else The council members thank
[3:46:34] you for your time.
[3:46:38] Like Brian mentioned my name is
[3:46:38] Natasha Ellis.
[3:46:42] I'm one of the six families I
[3:46:42] currently occupy.
[3:46:46] Our home is on the same street
[3:46:47] as the development where we're
[3:46:48] trying to build all of our
[3:46:52] future homes.
[3:46:53] We have been painstakingly
[3:46:56] working on this project for
[3:46:56] nearly four years and we just
[3:46:57] are looking to build a home
[3:47:01] where all of our children can
[3:47:01] grow up.
[3:47:02] We actually all our friends all
[3:47:05] of us six families So I can
[3:47:05] confirm that we are not
[3:47:06] developers.
[3:47:09] We're actually part of
[3:47:10] the community and we are
[3:47:14] families along with the five
[3:47:14] other applicants.
[3:47:15] We started this process with
[3:47:16] the commitment that we would
[3:47:18] work with and all city
[3:47:18] requirements not push
[3:47:19] the envelope, respect our
[3:47:19] neighbors and the neighborhood
[3:47:23] that we love along with
[3:47:23] the city regulations.
[3:47:28] That's exactly what we feel
[3:47:28] that we have done.
[3:47:29] We have incorporated input.
[3:47:32] We heard along this journey
[3:47:32] both from neighbors,
[3:47:33] professional engineers and
[3:47:34] technical experts as well as
[3:47:37] city staff.
[3:47:38] On behalf of all of
[3:47:38] the families.
[3:47:39] I would like to thank the city
[3:47:41] staff for their detailed review
[3:47:42] and we appreciate their
[3:47:43] diligence and feedback.
[3:47:46] All of that help earned
[3:47:47] the support of our Communities
[3:47:47] Planning Association and
[3:47:51] the Planning Commission.
[3:47:52] There is still a ways to go as
[3:47:53] the next level of fine details
[3:47:56] are part of the ministerial
[3:47:57] process where city staff
[3:47:57] experts continue to ensure that
[3:48:01] our plans fully comply with
[3:48:02] the technical and building
[3:48:03] regulations and we can continue
[3:48:06] to have dialog with our
[3:48:07] neighbors along the way we
[3:48:08] respect We respectfully request
[3:48:12] that you deny the appeal so
[3:48:12] that we can move forward
[3:48:13] through the ministerial process
[3:48:16] and eventually occupy our
[3:48:16] family homes.
[3:48:17] Thank you again to city staff
[3:48:20] and thank you Council members
[3:48:21] for your thoughtful
[3:48:21] consideration.
[3:48:22] And Chandra wanted to have a
[3:48:25] few words.
[3:48:25] Thank you.
[3:48:26] Thank you, Natasha.
[3:48:26] Thank you.
[3:48:30] I just wanted to respectfully
[3:48:31] add for the record that we have
[3:48:35] been waiting since DECEMBER to
[3:48:35] hear back from the cabinets on
[3:48:39] our grading design and
[3:48:40] stormwater and so forth.
[3:48:41] We have been willing and able
[3:48:45] to work with them.
[3:48:46] Again, this is why we have our
[3:48:49] civil engineer here today and
[3:48:50] we only received their comments
[3:48:50] a few days ago.
[3:48:54] Again I want to hand it to
[3:48:55] staff for working with us to
[3:48:58] address even what they recently
[3:48:59] brought up.
[3:49:00] So just wanted to let you know
[3:49:00] put that in the record and
[3:49:06] thank you again for your time.
[3:49:07] >> Good afternoon.
[3:49:12] City Council members.
[3:49:13] My name is Lee Anderson of
[3:49:13] Honest and Linen Corn.
[3:49:14] I'm the attorney for
[3:49:16] the applicant.
[3:49:17] I first of all to reiterate
[3:49:21] what MS..
[3:49:21] Slaven said.
[3:49:22] We've been asking for
[3:49:26] the comments of the civil
[3:49:27] engineer for the Cavanaugh's
[3:49:31] actually for over a year and we
[3:49:32] just barely got them less than
[3:49:36] a week ago.
[3:49:36] >> So you know the request to
[3:49:40] continue this hearing to to
[3:49:40] consider those comments it just
[3:49:41] seems like a predicament that
[3:49:45] they put themselves in and they
[3:49:49] shouldn't be able to delay us
[3:49:49] through those kinds of tactics.
[3:49:54] I also want to just very
[3:49:54] quickly address the property
[3:49:55] rights issue.
[3:49:59] There was a deed granted on MAY
[3:50:02] 13th, 1949 that granted
[3:50:07] the parcel that is now called q
[3:50:08] Frisco to two of the five
[3:50:11] adjacent property owners which
[3:50:12] include the predecessor to
[3:50:16] the applicant and that property
[3:50:17] was granted quote subject to
[3:50:21] the right of each and every
[3:50:22] grantee in this deed and their
[3:50:26] successors and assigns.
[3:50:27] And then skipping ahead a
[3:50:31] little bit to use that property
[3:50:31] for the installation repair and
[3:50:32] replacement of public utilities
[3:50:36] and then it goes on to say said
[3:50:37] rights of said grantees are for
[3:50:41] the benefit of and are
[3:50:41] pertinent to the respective
[3:50:45] parcels of land now owned by
[3:50:46] said grantees and immediately
[3:50:47] adjoining the above described
[3:50:51] strip strip of land.
[3:50:51] So the these are rights that
[3:50:52] were granted to our clients
[3:50:56] predecessor or it was intended
[3:50:57] to be a private street for
[3:51:00] ingress and egress and also for
[3:51:01] utilities to run under
[3:51:05] the street and it gave and
[3:51:05] that's an easement whether it
[3:51:09] uses the term easement or not.
[3:51:10] But regardless the document is
[3:51:11] very clear that it gives each
[3:51:14] of the adjacent parcels
[3:51:18] the right to tap into public
[3:51:19] utilities through that street.
[3:51:20] I don't think they're going to
[3:51:23] be any question about that.
[3:51:24] The document was reviewed by
[3:51:25] not only staff but also that
[3:51:27] the city attorney's office and
[3:51:32] found sufficient.
[3:51:33] You know, it's really a
[3:51:37] specious argument that
[3:51:37] the opponents have raised.
[3:51:38] But to the extent it does have
[3:51:42] any merit, that's a private
[3:51:43] matter As a staff said in his
[3:51:47] presentation with that we're
[3:51:48] available for any questions I'm
[3:51:48] not going to address point by
[3:51:51] point everything that's been
[3:51:52] brought out.
[3:51:52] There were a lot of things
[3:51:53] brought up that are outside far
[3:51:57] outside any of the issues that
[3:51:57] were properly raised in
[3:51:58] the appeal.
[3:52:01] Questions about design and
[3:52:02] questions about noise.
[3:52:02] Those kinds of things.
[3:52:06] But we're happy to answer
[3:52:07] questions either myself or
[3:52:07] the appropriate member of
[3:52:11] the team if there are questions
[3:52:12] and further discussion is
[3:52:14] desired on any of those points.
[3:52:19] >> Thank you.
[3:52:19] >> All right.
[3:52:24] So that closes the applicant to
[3:52:25] the great.
[3:52:25] I have questions for
[3:52:26] the applicant or the appellant
[3:52:26] or my colleagues.
[3:52:31] Do you can be called up.
[3:52:32] So this is in district one.
[3:52:37] So as we traditionally do I'll
[3:52:41] take the lead on this and I'm
[3:52:42] going to ask my colleagues to
[3:52:43] bear with me on this as we kind
[3:52:46] of delve into the issues.
[3:52:47] When I was a baby engineer, my
[3:52:51] boss at that time told me make
[3:52:52] it easy for the decision maker
[3:52:55] in a way I can successfully say
[3:52:56] that neither side has done
[3:52:56] that.
[3:53:00] So I've taken a lot of notes
[3:53:01] during the course of
[3:53:01] the testimony by all
[3:53:05] the parties.
[3:53:06] So when you see me scrambling
[3:53:06] between my computer and my
[3:53:10] written notes you'll understand
[3:53:10] why.
[3:53:11] So I'm going to start out with
[3:53:12] the typical preamble as I do
[3:53:14] when I hear an appeal.
[3:53:15] I want to thank city staff.
[3:53:19] I want to thank the appellant.
[3:53:20] I want to thank the applicant
[3:53:20] for your presentations.
[3:53:21] I want to thank those who took
[3:53:24] the time to come down or spoke
[3:53:25] online or submitted comments
[3:53:25] online.
[3:53:29] I've reviewed the material
[3:53:30] attached to the docket as well
[3:53:30] as the public comments
[3:53:31] submitted online.
[3:53:34] Listen to the presentation sent
[3:53:35] by staff by appellant, by
[3:53:36] the applicant and comments by
[3:53:39] the public.
[3:53:40] i'm going to state the obvious
[3:53:41] I'm not going to make a motion
[3:53:44] for continuance.
[3:53:45] I don't understand why people
[3:53:46] didn't get that when we didn't
[3:53:46] do that at the get go.
[3:53:52] But in case there was any doubt
[3:53:53] .
[3:53:53] So here's the kind of things
[3:53:57] that have been raised that I
[3:53:57] don't find relevant to
[3:53:58] the decision in front of us
[3:54:02] today.
[3:54:02] One of them is the 1949
[3:54:03] granted.
[3:54:06] Now staff has their
[3:54:07] interpretation about that.
[3:54:12] >> I believe that the grant
[3:54:12] deed is a matter between
[3:54:13] the two parties to arbitrate
[3:54:14] among themselves in
[3:54:16] the affected parties
[3:54:21] the whether the development has
[3:54:22] the right to enter into that or
[3:54:22] not.
[3:54:23] I don't think relevant in my
[3:54:23] decision.
[3:54:26] That is the risk that
[3:54:29] the applicant is taking in this
[3:54:34] conversation.
[3:54:34] The other element that I feel
[3:54:39] kind of compelled to talk about
[3:54:39] bear with me.
[3:54:44] Like I said, I'm bouncing a
[3:54:44] little bit between all
[3:54:48] the comments things that okay
[3:54:49] staff included the applicant's
[3:54:53] rendering and its presentation
[3:54:53] .
[3:54:54] I find the rubber not a true
[3:54:58] representation of
[3:54:58] the neighborhood.
[3:54:59] The assurance community has a
[3:55:02] long history with project
[3:55:03] renderings given its unique
[3:55:03] residential zoning.
[3:55:04] Sometimes it makes the project
[3:55:07] look larger, look smaller,
[3:55:08] blending in.
[3:55:08] And for the record I'm not
[3:55:11] relying on the rendering and my
[3:55:12] review of the project documents
[3:55:13] or as part of this afternoon's
[3:55:17] discussion.
[3:55:18] >> a lot of reasons sort of
[3:55:18] rendering said okay one thing
[3:55:21] that the applicant raised and
[3:55:22] actually the applicant raised
[3:55:25] that I kind of had a question
[3:55:26] about this is for staff
[3:55:30] the ownership disclosure Who
[3:55:31] owns this property?
[3:55:32] I have to make a decision
[3:55:32] whether I have a conflict of
[3:55:36] interest, whether anybody has
[3:55:37] given me a campaign donation
[3:55:39] and my 2024 campaign who owns
[3:55:40] the property?
[3:55:44] >> Who are the legal owners
[3:55:44] With all due respect.
[3:55:45] Yes, Thank you.
[3:55:49] I need a few minutes to look
[3:55:53] for the application but I have
[3:55:54] that.
[3:55:54] Oh, I'm sorry.
[3:55:58] I have the permit to draft here
[3:55:58] .
[3:56:07] >> So it's Salem or La Hoya.
[3:56:08] >> Limited Liability company is
[3:56:12] the owner of record.
[3:56:12] >> Okay.
[3:56:13] I'm used to disclosure of
[3:56:17] individuals that are part of
[3:56:21] that ownership and I'm hearing
[3:56:22] that there are six or maybe
[3:56:26] seven owners.
[3:56:27] One of them is here today.
[3:56:30] I have here Scott Sinnott as
[3:56:31] the owner committee.
[3:56:31] >> Okay.
[3:56:35] I came in here thinking that he
[3:56:36] was the sole owner.
[3:56:44] He's not the sole owner Before
[3:56:45] this is over can you give me a
[3:56:46] list to make sure that I don't
[3:56:50] have a conflict?
[3:56:51] Council Member My name is
[3:56:51] Christian Niles.
[3:56:55] I am one of the owners of out
[3:56:56] of Lot three on lot on
[3:57:00] the proposed lot two We have
[3:57:00] scouts in it on the proposed
[3:57:04] lot one we have Adrian Diaz on
[3:57:05] the proposed lot for Webb
[3:57:10] Barbara Santiago Sula, Capell
[3:57:11] and Lot five We have Charlie
[3:57:14] and Charlie and Race and a lot
[3:57:15] six We had David and Natalia
[3:57:15] Bond.
[3:57:18] >> Okay thank you for
[3:57:19] disclosing that.
[3:57:20] I don't recognize any of those
[3:57:20] names.
[3:57:21] I feel confident that I don't
[3:57:23] have a conflict or that none of
[3:57:24] them gave me a campaign
[3:57:28] contribution as far as I can
[3:57:29] remember back in 2024 I wasn't
[3:57:37] so hard wasn't the okay those
[3:57:42] were the harder questions.
[3:57:46] Okay.
[3:57:47] So as I read through all
[3:57:54] the material over this weekend
[3:57:54] ,I will say there's been
[3:57:55] important issues raised by
[3:57:59] the appellant and I'm also
[3:58:00] encouraged that the appellant
[3:58:01] has narrowly targeted their
[3:58:03] focus especially in their
[3:58:04] letter of MAY 14th And while
[3:58:05] the language he appellant
[3:58:09] offered is not necessarily
[3:58:10] appropriate for permit
[3:58:10] conditions, I thought the tone
[3:58:11] of the scope resonate with me
[3:58:14] So I don't know about your
[3:58:15] consultants but I was able to
[3:58:17] read the thing in one day and
[3:58:18] figure out what they were
[3:58:18] talking about and understood
[3:58:22] the issues that were at risk.
[3:58:23] >> So I worked Some days maybe
[3:58:27] your consultants don't.
[3:58:28] I was also equally encouraged
[3:58:32] by the applicant's response in
[3:58:33] an undated response to
[3:58:33] the appeal as well as
[3:58:37] information that was in their
[3:58:38] slide deck which is attached to
[3:58:41] that but was not actually used
[3:58:42] .
[3:58:42] So one of the questions I want
[3:58:46] to ask to the applicant one of
[3:58:47] the things that showed up in
[3:58:50] your slide deck on Slide six
[3:58:51] was indicating that you would
[3:58:52] be securing letters of
[3:58:56] permission from the property
[3:59:00] owners along first going out.
[3:59:01] That is an important change to
[3:59:10] me is that but we have property
[3:59:10] rights to That's not what I'm
[3:59:15] asking sir in your presentation
[3:59:19] Slide six indicate that you
[3:59:20] would be securing letters of
[3:59:21] permission by the people who
[3:59:26] live along that street.
[3:59:27] Yes.
[3:59:31] Slide six was prepared by
[3:59:32] the appellant is what I'm being
[3:59:32] told.
[3:59:36] Yeah we didn't have a six slide
[3:59:44] so not you didn't show on today
[3:59:44] .
[3:59:45] Can you bring up the PowerPoint
[3:59:50] for us The we are the applicant
[3:59:51] PowerPoint so I can that way I
[3:59:51] can better understand which
[3:59:54] slide you're referring to and
[3:59:56] then I'm happy to address it
[4:00:11] and you help them go back.
[4:00:19] One of you almost had it There
[4:00:19] it is.
[4:00:24] This slide was not part of our
[4:00:24] formal presentation.
[4:00:25] We had it as a back up slide
[4:00:28] Should any questions arise.
[4:00:29] Okay it's back up material
[4:00:33] attached to this item prepared
[4:00:33] now acknowledged by you.
[4:00:34] Correct.
[4:00:38] So what am I to make of this
[4:00:39] Because this is this is kind of
[4:00:39] a big deal.
[4:00:43] >> It is And can you please
[4:00:44] repeat your question?
[4:00:47] >> So this slide as part of
[4:00:48] the slide deck that you
[4:00:48] submitted to the city as backup
[4:00:52] as material for this item shows
[4:00:53] that for each of the lots
[4:00:57] adjoining you're indicating an
[4:00:59] intent to secure letters of
[4:01:05] permission.
[4:01:06] PRESIDENT LaCava That that's
[4:01:06] not the case.
[4:01:10] We have an easement over okay
[4:01:11] I'm not asking that question.
[4:01:15] So so the easement allows us to
[4:01:15] proceed without occasion.
[4:01:16] Again, that's not the question
[4:01:17] I'm asking.
[4:01:19] I'm asking about you submitted
[4:01:20] this slide for which I was very
[4:01:25] excited about because that
[4:01:25] would show that there was some
[4:01:29] meeting of the minds.
[4:01:30] >> So you're telling me that
[4:01:33] that was a false smell At
[4:01:34] the moment we're going to have
[4:01:39] our civil engineer Dan Valdes
[4:01:39] come speak to this slide.
[4:01:40] >> Okay.
[4:01:40] Hello.
[4:01:44] Thank you, Daniel Valdez,
[4:01:45] coffee engineering engineer.
[4:01:48] I've worked for the project.
[4:01:49] A little bit of background
[4:01:50] history behind this slide.
[4:01:53] The intention of this slide
[4:01:53] wasn't to show letters of
[4:01:54] permission issues.
[4:01:58] It was intended to show
[4:01:59] the plan along here First go to
[4:02:02] the call outs for letters of
[4:02:07] permission which have blanks
[4:02:07] They you know, don't reflect
[4:02:08] any letters of commission that
[4:02:12] have actually been obtained.
[4:02:13] Yeah, they were added to this
[4:02:17] sheet was a part of
[4:02:17] the ministerial grading plan
[4:02:22] that has not yet been approved.
[4:02:22] It's currently in review with
[4:02:26] the city engineering staff.
[4:02:27] The addition of those call outs
[4:02:28] was in response to a comment
[4:02:31] that we needed to get letters
[4:02:32] of permission so it was added
[4:02:35] to a to address a comment.
[4:02:36] But as the review process
[4:02:40] proceeded our attorney
[4:02:41] determined that we did not need
[4:02:45] to get letters of permission So
[4:02:46] the final plans will not have
[4:02:52] that call out.
[4:02:52] You realize how difficult that
[4:02:53] makes it for me because now I
[4:02:54] begin to question everything
[4:02:57] you've put out there, right?
[4:02:58] This is part of the ministerial
[4:03:01] set the ministerial set to get
[4:03:02] secure grading plans.
[4:03:02] >> Correct.
[4:03:06] But until the discretionary
[4:03:07] approval comes through no
[4:03:07] ministerial plans will be
[4:03:08] approved.
[4:03:12] No, I understand that but it's
[4:03:12] a message to me.
[4:03:13] I understand that.
[4:03:17] I understand the impression
[4:03:17] that you MAY have gotten you
[4:03:18] don't have up here to provide
[4:03:19] some clarification on what it
[4:03:22] does You're looking at it.
[4:03:22] Yeah.
[4:03:23] So I'm a civil engineer so I
[4:03:25] know exactly what I'm looking
[4:03:26] at But so this is a false
[4:03:27] representation of what your
[4:03:30] intention is going forward.
[4:03:31] It's not a current
[4:03:35] representation.
[4:03:40] I won't argue the words.
[4:03:40] >> That's too bad.
[4:03:41] I thought that was a pretty big
[4:03:44] step forward So let me see if
[4:03:46] there's anything else that we
[4:03:52] can dance around.
[4:03:53] So one of the things that as I
[4:03:57] mentioned was that especially
[4:04:02] for my colleagues into staff
[4:04:03] that I struggle with it like
[4:04:04] you said, I think some of
[4:04:04] the issues raised by
[4:04:06] the appellant actually were on
[4:04:07] point And the challenge is that
[4:04:11] it's somewhat ironically it is
[4:04:12] that during the discretionary
[4:04:13] review process neighbors
[4:04:17] actually have access to more
[4:04:17] information than
[4:04:21] the ministerial process When if
[4:04:22] this project were to be
[4:04:22] approved we'd be going through
[4:04:26] grading construction or
[4:04:27] building permits because
[4:04:28] everything kind of closes in at
[4:04:31] that time.
[4:04:31] So that presented a little bit
[4:04:32] of a quandary to me because I
[4:04:35] think the issues raised that
[4:04:36] you MAY in good faith
[4:04:37] understand everything they're
[4:04:41] saying and actually actually
[4:04:41] comply with everything that
[4:04:45] they're asking for which is
[4:04:46] actually just convince us that
[4:04:46] the design that you have
[4:04:50] actually works which is I think
[4:04:55] quite a gross simplification of
[4:04:55] course.
[4:04:56] But I think at the end of
[4:04:57] the day that's what they're
[4:04:57] saying Now some of the other
[4:05:00] folks that spoke have bigger
[4:05:01] issues with the project but I
[4:05:05] think the appellant really
[4:05:06] narrowed down just saying we
[4:05:06] can't figure out your plan.
[4:05:10] The plan changing quite evident
[4:05:14] from the exchange We just had
[4:05:15] And so they're getting kind of
[4:05:15] nervous and I've done
[4:05:19] discretionary permits where you
[4:05:20] have not done everything to a
[4:05:23] position that you do during
[4:05:24] construction documents going
[4:05:24] forward.
[4:05:28] So I started thinking of a
[4:05:32] number of ideas about how to
[4:05:33] address that.
[4:05:34] I exchanged some conversations
[4:05:38] with staff and with the city
[4:05:39] attorney's office because I
[4:05:43] believe in having my ideas
[4:05:44] valid.
[4:05:44] And so while I am
[4:05:48] extraordinarily frustrated by
[4:05:49] the conversations that we've
[4:05:53] had today and in this
[4:05:54] particular hearing at the end
[4:05:54] of the day this is not about my
[4:05:59] frustration and
[4:05:59] misrepresentations a slight but
[4:06:03] whether at the end of the day
[4:06:04] that I can make the findings or
[4:06:05] not worth what the project
[4:06:09] actually is and I was very
[4:06:14] close to it no but working with
[4:06:14] staff and the city attorney's
[4:06:21] office I found that with their
[4:06:22] very detailed changes in
[4:06:27] the conditions of approval that
[4:06:32] I can get their.
[4:06:32] So with the city attorney stand
[4:06:37] ready to correct my language
[4:06:37] because sometimes I get it
[4:06:38] wrong.
[4:06:38] But the two new conditions that
[4:06:42] have been added and the four
[4:06:43] modifications that strengthen
[4:06:47] the permit I am able to make
[4:06:48] findings before I go to
[4:06:48] the motion.
[4:06:52] I do appreciate the other
[4:06:53] issues that were raised by
[4:06:53] the other testimony
[4:06:54] the neighbors, the community as
[4:06:57] a whole.
[4:06:58] I do note or I did note that
[4:07:01] the pto advisory board voted
[4:07:02] five zero to oppose the project
[4:07:03] but didn't give me
[4:07:03] the specifics by which I could
[4:07:07] actually take them into
[4:07:07] account.
[4:07:11] The cpa was not unanimous but
[4:07:12] it did vote seven four to
[4:07:13] support the project and
[4:07:16] the planning Commission as was
[4:07:17] noted also supported
[4:07:20] the project five zero And with
[4:07:25] due respect to the community
[4:07:26] members I did not file find
[4:07:27] that the testimony rose to
[4:07:30] the level Overturning
[4:07:31] the action quite a bit was made
[4:07:31] of who the owners are.
[4:07:35] We actually got that answer in
[4:07:36] this afternoon's conversation.
[4:07:40] So with that I move the staff
[4:07:41] recommendation with
[4:07:41] the amendments to permit
[4:07:46] conditions 25, 26, 31 and 45
[4:07:51] and the addition of a new
[4:07:51] tentative map condition 28 and
[4:07:55] permit condition 15 as shown in
[4:07:56] the staff presentation and that
[4:08:00] will conclude my comments.
[4:08:01] I'll turn over to my colleagues
[4:08:01] looking for a second and
[4:08:04] certainly a any questions or
[4:08:09] comments you might have.
[4:08:11] >> >> Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
[4:08:16] Let all have for a second
[4:08:16] the motion.
[4:08:16] All right.
[4:08:18] We have a second and I don't
[4:08:19] see anybody else on the lights
[4:08:25] the slide up there does right?
[4:08:25] Oh the other part was directing
[4:08:26] the city attorney to prepare
[4:08:28] the appropriate resolutions
[4:08:29] according to section 40 of
[4:08:29] the city charter.
[4:08:33] So without any other comments
[4:08:34] or questions by my colleagues
[4:08:39] again I'll thank staff the City
[4:08:39] Attorney's office,
[4:08:45] the appellant for the work they
[4:08:46] put in and the committee
[4:08:46] members this time to show up as
[4:08:47] well as the applicant In
[4:08:49] answering my questions And with
[4:08:53] that I'll call for the vote I'm
[4:08:54] sorry the voting system Please
[4:09:04] cast your vote That does pass
[4:09:05] unanimously 7 to 0 with council
[4:09:09] member Elio Rivera and
[4:09:10] Councilmember Von Wilpert
[4:09:10] absent.
[4:09:10] >> Thank you.
[4:09:11] All right.
[4:09:15] Thank you and everyone to wrap
[4:09:15] up this afternoon's meeting,
[4:09:16] does the attorney city attorney
[4:09:19] have anything to report out
[4:09:20] from yesterday's closed
[4:09:20] session?
[4:09:21] >> There's nothing to report
[4:09:21] out from closed session.
[4:09:25] Okay.
[4:09:26] That was necessary because we
[4:09:26] adjourn the afternoon In
[4:09:30] the evening session we will now
[4:09:31] adjourn council to the special
[4:09:32] council meeting on Wednesday,
[4:09:34] MAY 20th, 2026 at 9 A.M..