[11:21] at
[18:41] White.
[18:42] >> All right.
[18:42] Good morning.
[18:46] We're going to get started.
[18:47] I will now call the city
[18:48] council meeting of Tuesday,
[18:51] JULY 14th, 2026 to order.
[18:51] Clerk please call the roll.
[18:52] Thank you.
[18:52] Council PRESIDENT Council
[18:56] member Campbell here.
[18:57] Council Member Whitburn here.
[19:02] Council Member Foster.
[19:02] Council Member Von Wilber
[19:07] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[19:07] here Council Member Campo
[19:11] Council Member Moreno Present
[19:15] Council Member Eli Rivera and
[19:16] Council PRESIDENT LaCava.
[19:17] Present also attend the meeting
[19:21] Our city Attorney Heather
[19:21] Ferber Independent Budget
[19:26] Analyst Charles Monica and
[19:26] myself your city clerk Diana
[19:27] Fuentes.
[19:28] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[19:28] right.
[19:28] Thank you.
[19:30] A quorum is now present.
[19:31] We will begin this morning with
[19:32] the land acknowledgment and
[19:36] the Pledge of Allegiance led by
[19:36] council member Lauren Wolpert.
[19:40] Please stand if you are able.
[19:45] >> We respectfully acknowledge
[19:46] that the culmination are
[19:46] the original inhabitants of
[19:47] the Unceded land now known as
[19:50] San Diego.
[19:51] Despite enduring the horrors of
[19:51] genocide and colonization,
[19:52] the community spirit remains
[19:55] unbroken.
[19:56] We honor the resilience of
[19:56] their ancestors who fought to
[19:57] protect their culture and land.
[20:00] Today they carry the legacy
[20:01] forward ensuring that their
[20:01] traditions continue to thrive
[20:05] and gratitude and strength We
[20:06] stand at the culmination
[20:06] connected to our past and
[20:07] committed to a thriving future.
[20:10] Please turn and face the flag.
[20:11] >> Ready?
[20:11] Begin.
[20:19] But you had to give stands One
[20:24] nation under GOD indivisible
[20:29] with Clark please go over how
[20:30] the public can offer their
[20:34] testimony.
[20:35] Thank you.
[20:35] Council PRESIDENT I'd like to
[20:36] highlight the slide on
[20:37] the screen that does review how
[20:37] the public can offer their
[20:39] public testimony during today's
[20:40] meeting.
[20:40] Please note the time
[20:41] allocations for proclamations
[20:42] and consent items for meeting
[20:45] management purposes and
[20:45] the order can be found on
[20:46] the agenda Summary found online
[20:47] or at the table in the back of
[20:51] the room.
[20:52] If you are in person please
[20:52] come to the speakers up looking
[20:53] at the entrance of chambers and
[20:54] bring it to the front of
[20:55] the room and place it in
[20:55] the clear box.
[20:56] Council ambassadors are
[20:57] available near the entrance and
[20:57] can assist with questions and
[21:01] speaker slips.
[21:02] No organized presentations were
[21:02] submitted for today for any of
[21:06] the items on the agenda.
[21:07] No further in-person testimony
[21:08] will be taken once the council
[21:09] begins Virtual testimony.
[21:11] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[21:12] right.
[21:12] Thank you, City Clerk And as a
[21:13] reminder when you speak to an
[21:14] item on the agenda, please
[21:17] focus your comments on the item
[21:18] not agenda.
[21:18] Public comment is an
[21:19] opportunity to speak more
[21:19] freely on anything under
[21:22] the city's purview.
[21:23] With that we will now dispense
[21:24] with the approval of
[21:29] the proclamation item City
[21:29] Clerk The Pelican Period
[21:30] Proclamation is now open.
[21:33] >> Each speaker will have one
[21:33] minute per item per person.
[21:34] If you would like to speak on
[21:35] three or more items you'll have
[21:37] a maximum of three minutes.
[21:38] The proclamation items being
[21:42] approved are items 3830 1s5
[21:43] hundred s5o7 and s508
[21:44] Maximillian Schmidt If you can
[21:47] come forward you're speaking on
[21:51] items 3031 and s 500 you will
[21:52] have three minutes If I can
[21:53] have the following individuals
[21:53] please come forward to
[21:57] the yellow reserved seats Cielo
[22:02] Kim and Daniel on item as 508
[22:06] and Blair Beekman on items 30
[22:12] and as 508 Please proceed.
[22:12] Hi.
[22:13] Um I think that we should try
[22:17] to make less federal influence
[22:18] in California and give
[22:23] the power back to the state.
[22:23] I think having an entire month
[22:28] on called National Park and
[22:29] Recreation Month where I love
[22:34] the national parks but what I
[22:35] like more are the less
[22:40] expensive natural areas like
[22:41] National Forest or blm land or
[22:46] on even just local hiking
[22:51] trails where the national park
[22:51] is also one of the most
[22:52] expensive public places to go
[22:56] hiking Coincidentally so to
[22:57] have an entire month honoring
[22:58] the national park why don't we
[23:01] have a month just honoring like
[23:02] go outside and like go hiking
[23:03] Because people talk about
[23:08] the globalization of the world
[23:09] And I like to talk about
[23:10] the federalization of
[23:14] Washington dc's influence on
[23:15] and where the tax dollars are
[23:21] going exactly on in the United
[23:21] States.
[23:22] So I just would like to say
[23:27] that for San Diego to have this
[23:27] new ceremonial agenda for
[23:33] the rest of San Diego's history
[23:34] National Park and Recreation
[23:34] Month, maybe it should have
[23:40] been go outside and join nature
[23:45] because on I believe D.C. Is
[23:45] corrupt and I believe
[23:46] the federal government is
[23:50] corrupt And there's a lot
[23:51] better places on there's lot
[23:57] better places that our tax
[23:58] dollars should be going than
[23:58] straight to the federal
[24:03] government is what I believe.
[24:03] I believe that the federal
[24:04] income tax should be lower.
[24:05] I believe the national park fee
[24:08] should be lower.
[24:09] I think the discovery pass is
[24:10] too expensive.
[24:13] It's like over $100 to even
[24:14] enter the national park And
[24:14] then once you if you only go
[24:19] once it could be $23 to on
[24:25] backpack overnight where
[24:26] there's also free dispersed
[24:27] camping in places closed or
[24:27] national parks I would like to
[24:32] see our national I think
[24:32] the price of the national parks
[24:35] do make it less crowded which
[24:36] is one reason they have it.
[24:37] However, I don't want to go
[24:42] into a unhealthy habit of
[24:42] glorifying the national park
[24:43] system and how it could
[24:47] possibly be even more expensive
[24:48] And because I think
[24:49] the national parks are a great
[24:49] part of this country and I
[24:53] think it's a really special
[25:00] part and I just hope that we
[25:00] can maybe have a month
[25:05] promoting exercise and banning
[25:05] all even banning all electric
[25:06] e-bikes on the sidewalk and
[25:12] promoting exercise in San Diego
[25:13] not just for the national parks
[25:14] specifically.
[25:14] >> Thank you for that
[25:15] concluding comment.
[25:18] Cielo Kim and Daniel All
[25:22] speaking of items 508 it is one
[25:23] minute per person are you So
[25:23] it'll just be consequential So
[25:25] I'll be putting one minute for
[25:38] each time and I will ding good
[25:39] morning My name is Phil
[25:40] Offensive and I'm here because
[25:43] of Alina since ever I was in
[25:44] middle school I would always go
[25:45] to the library.
[25:50] I would do my homework and go
[25:51] read a book And Alina was
[25:57] always like very or and very
[25:58] there for the picture.
[25:59] And then I was a pitcher and I
[26:02] would go every day and then I
[26:03] slowly she started me going
[26:08] every single day And then she
[26:09] told me if I wanted to join
[26:09] council which I did And then I
[26:13] started working at the library
[26:14] But basically because of her
[26:20] I'm now a teacher and I just
[26:21] want to say thank you totally
[26:21] know for being always so kind
[26:25] and a heartwarming and being
[26:26] there for everybody and yeah
[26:26] thank you.
[26:31] Thank you.
[26:32] Interesting.
[26:32] Hello my name is Kim Williams
[26:37] speaking on behalf of all of us
[26:38] I just wanted to thank Alina
[26:39] for always being there for
[26:39] everybody for being the mother,
[26:43] the auntie of the entire Logan
[26:43] Heights community.
[26:44] Everything she does is for our
[26:49] children, for our elderly.
[26:50] >> I my favorite part of
[26:51] working with Alina is when
[26:55] people come up to me and they
[26:56] share their stories about her
[26:57] and I always ask that she make
[26:57] you laugh.
[27:02] Did she make you feel something
[27:02] that would make you cry if she
[27:03] made you cry as a child?
[27:09] >> You know that there's a big
[27:10] place you can be around to it
[27:11] But on my behalf thank you all
[27:11] enough for everything You have
[27:14] seen me grow up literally since
[27:15] I was in kindergarten.
[27:15] Now I finished my schooling and
[27:20] I'm working with her and it's
[27:20] not going to be the same.
[27:24] >> And yes, I don't think you
[27:25] Please proceed.
[27:25] >> Hello.
[27:31] My name is Daniel.
[27:32] I'm also here to congratulate
[27:32] Eileen Process.
[27:36] I moved to San Diego when I was
[27:37] 13 and I started going to
[27:38] the same local library that
[27:38] everybody else went to.
[27:43] Alina was one of the people
[27:44] that approached me got me to
[27:45] join the council.
[27:45] I certainly volunteered at
[27:46] the library.
[27:49] I worked for the library for a
[27:50] couple of years and I have
[27:50] slowly grown with the rest of
[27:51] my team.
[27:51] I honestly wouldn't be where I
[27:56] am today professionally or
[27:57] personally if it wasn't for
[27:57] Alina.
[27:58] So I just want to thank you
[27:58] from the bottom.
[28:01] Meredith, you know we love you.
[28:02] >> Thank you.
[28:07] This is where we come in If you
[28:08] can please come forward after
[28:08] that will be allegedly Andre
[28:09] and then Paul Kruger if you can
[28:15] please come up to the front row
[28:15] .
[28:16] >> Hi.
[28:22] We are Beekman I am 30 is
[28:23] National Park and Recreation
[28:23] Month.
[28:28] I think it helps a person.
[28:29] Ron Gilbert He talked about
[28:29] national park issues at this
[28:34] time last year.
[28:34] An interesting item is a lot of
[28:40] history to our national parks
[28:41] and what they've done Excuse me
[28:44] I'm Brooklyn I just had a sort
[28:50] of in our lives I wish I could
[28:51] say more.
[28:51] I take comfort in national
[28:52] parks.
[28:56] I think they're an interesting
[28:56] idea.
[29:02] Um, I think there was questions
[29:02] of what proclamation say within
[29:03] parks and the history lessons
[29:08] that do those sort of history
[29:09] lessons need revision and
[29:10] things good Look how we can be
[29:13] addressing that.
[29:14] It's a lot to understand
[29:15] the changes we're going through
[29:20] Um but look myself and others
[29:20] can figure out what those
[29:26] changes are Um, I guess we will
[29:27] at some point and for some
[29:31] things are good Hopefully some
[29:32] things from our past can stay
[29:32] and that are respectable as
[29:33] well.
[29:33] Good luck in such efforts to
[29:37] consider and for the arena
[29:43] Rosa's day thank you for this
[29:49] item Thank you It's nice that a
[29:50] librarian is being
[29:50] commemorated.
[29:55] I can't could not have gone to
[29:56] the library early today.
[29:56] It's hopeful that we're
[30:00] learning and we made a real
[30:01] commitment to make our
[30:02] libraries open all the time and
[30:02] I hope we can continue those
[30:03] efforts and how much we've
[30:07] tried recently That kind of
[30:07] subjects can be very clear to
[30:13] us in our future and sounds
[30:13] like this librarian was really
[30:14] well liked and had a good role
[30:15] in the community.
[30:21] Thank you.
[30:21] >> Allegedly.
[30:22] All right.
[30:22] You're speaking to us by way
[30:23] 3031.
[30:23] That's 505 seven.
[30:24] You'll have three minutes.
[30:24] Please proceed.
[30:29] You guys, I'm so honored that
[30:30] you're honoring me in your
[30:31] proclamations There's an order
[30:35] a national park.
[30:36] How cool is that?
[30:37] It's on the East Coast.
[30:37] But I just I knew it would come
[30:41] at some point.
[30:41] It's okay.
[30:42] You guys don't have to admit
[30:42] it.
[30:43] Yes, With National Parks let's
[30:46] talk about the things that are
[30:47] always committed here.
[30:47] So a lot of missing kids
[30:52] happened to be taken at
[30:53] national parks.
[30:54] Also a lot of unusual activity
[30:58] I know of you that read
[30:58] the Bible know about
[30:59] the naphthalene but they are
[31:00] still here.
[31:04] So that's something we need to
[31:05] be concerned about because
[31:05] they're going to be seen as
[31:06] aliens.
[31:06] That's what they're going to
[31:07] tell us.
[31:10] So just keep your eyes open and
[31:11] have some discernment.
[31:16] Yes, Micah Person I don't know
[31:17] I'm sorry.
[31:17] Day This is interesting because
[31:18] the Museum of Man turned into
[31:22] the museum of us just like men
[31:22] turned into women and we're
[31:23] erasing things.
[31:23] So I find that to be
[31:28] interesting as well.
[31:29] The cannibal museum that is
[31:29] there And speaking of missing
[31:34] children are people that are
[31:35] found in the Epstein files.
[31:40] A lot of children have been
[31:40] eaten.
[31:41] They also just kind of like to
[31:41] do it in their satanic rituals.
[31:46] It's something Hillary Clinton
[31:47] and you know that stuff that
[31:47] was found on Anthony Weiner's
[31:52] laptop pretty terrifying.
[31:52] >> a lot of guys killed
[31:53] themselves after seeing that
[31:58] But and then Coats Disease day
[31:58] I feel like there's a lot of
[31:59] things that happen to children
[32:03] and people that are manmade
[32:04] weaponization of drugs and you
[32:05] know spraying things in our
[32:10] skies or damage happens to our
[32:10] dna and things like that.
[32:11] I mean even things that people
[32:12] do to infants like putting all
[32:15] this stuff in their bodies when
[32:16] they're don't need it, that
[32:17] doesn't help.
[32:21] And then as far as the library
[32:22] goes, you know, it's like I
[32:22] have a problem that we continue
[32:27] to sexualize children and put
[32:28] up flags that are, you know,
[32:28] honoring pedophiles and
[32:34] glorifying the people who have
[32:35] sex with children which is
[32:36] actually rape because you can't
[32:41] just have sex with the child.
[32:41] But according to Scott Weiner,
[32:42] they can consent it.
[32:45] We're only, you know, ten years
[32:45] in difference age.
[32:46] But I would think that
[32:51] librarians would ensure that
[32:52] we're not teaching our children
[32:52] about sex and you know, putting
[32:57] them in a place to be groomed.
[32:58] So that's a problem to me is
[32:58] that we honor people.
[33:03] But why aren't these people
[33:03] concerned about children enough
[33:04] to protect them from things
[33:04] like this?
[33:09] And this is why all of these
[33:10] things that I've been talking
[33:11] about like the cannibal music
[33:11] like that gets normalized
[33:15] Having sex with children gets
[33:15] normalized and it's glorified
[33:16] and put over every building.
[33:20] And so if you are a victim it's
[33:21] like pretty terrifying to think
[33:22] that, you know, over a victim
[33:28] you would honor somebody who
[33:28] rapes a child.
[33:29] >> So good job.
[33:32] Paul Krueger on item 30.
[33:33] >> Oh, thank you.
[33:38] I'm really here to just speak
[33:38] very briefly about
[33:43] the ceremonial awards in
[33:44] general and to say I know
[33:45] you've heard discussion of
[33:49] moving this portion of
[33:50] the council meeting to another
[33:56] time or another day where you
[33:56] could honor those who who
[34:01] definitely deserve an honor But
[34:02] allow the floor of the council
[34:02] meeting to move faster.
[34:08] It's a very specific thing
[34:09] You're doing it, you know,
[34:10] often involves a photo op for
[34:14] for you as elected officials
[34:14] which I understand.
[34:15] But those of us who come to
[34:20] speak about more substantial
[34:21] issues sometimes wait up to an
[34:22] hour for this portion of
[34:27] the meeting and I hope that you
[34:27] will consider moving it.
[34:31] Maybe you could have it at 9:00
[34:32] or you could have it on a
[34:33] different day at a different
[34:33] time.
[34:37] Thank you.
[34:37] >> Thank you.
[34:38] That does conclude public
[34:38] comment here in council
[34:42] chambers going to those
[34:43] participating remotely 8700 if
[34:44] you can please unmute after
[34:49] that is Ernie Casco.
[34:49] Tony and Judy please proceed.
[34:50] Let me know which item or items
[34:54] you wish to speak to.
[34:57] >> 30 Excuse me 3500.
[34:58] You'll have two minutes.
[35:03] Please proceed.
[35:04] I want to begin with this
[35:09] starting this meeting at 10
[35:15] A.M. Is bumpy yet I want to say
[35:16] this We are all doing our best.
[35:25] Thank you And I know we
[35:25] shouldn't be here They are.
[35:26] I just think it's it's a
[35:32] beautiful flow so I want us to
[35:32] stay with that.
[35:33] If you believe in that too, I
[35:36] think you do too.
[35:37] On the National Parks and
[35:40] Recreation Month JULY 20th, 26
[35:41] My favorite part of Park is
[35:47] that they are a place to heal
[35:47] and return to wellbeing.
[35:48] Thank you to all the good
[35:53] people who keep our parks
[35:54] the way they are so beautiful
[35:58] for all of us It's a big job
[35:59] and my favorite national park
[36:00] is Yosemite a big thank you to
[36:06] GOD and his team for infinity
[36:10] number 500 years to year our
[36:14] martial Arts academy 30th
[36:15] anniversary Martial arts
[36:20] touches all the bases in
[36:21] fosters greatness in people of
[36:22] all ages.
[36:27] I find that in the presence of
[36:28] people who wear their special
[36:33] martial arts belts I often feel
[36:38] a very quiet present.
[36:39] I often feel a quiet presence
[36:45] of confidence power in them.
[36:45] Thank you Marshall Thomas Thank
[36:52] you MR. Thomas Kai the world
[36:52] needs more of you.
[36:57] Thank you for listening to me.
[36:58] >> I appreciate you being
[36:58] allowed to speak up to all.
[36:59] Thank you.
[36:59] Next is Ernie Casco.
[37:03] If you can please unmute and
[37:04] let me know which item or items
[37:04] you wish to speak to.
[37:05] >> Yes.
[37:05] Ernie Casco here.
[37:08] I'd like to speak on 511
[37:13] National Park and Retaliation
[37:13] on 3507 5556 I'm sorry some of
[37:19] those items that you were said
[37:20] are consent item agendas
[37:20] The park and month is
[37:25] the proclamation So then
[37:26] they'll be one minute unless
[37:27] you have something else on
[37:31] the parks.
[37:32] >> Yes I actually don't It is
[37:37] to retaliation for speaking out
[37:38] on all the proclamations I'm
[37:43] not allowed to speak So like
[37:44] what are you starting my
[37:44] minutes?
[37:45] >> Are you speaking on all
[37:49] the proclamations Because like
[37:50] I said the other items are
[37:50] retaliation on
[37:57] the proclamations I should have
[37:58] more than a minute.
[37:58] I just need you to identify
[37:59] which proclamations bravery
[38:02] speaking on all of them.
[38:02] I'll give you three minutes.
[38:03] Please proceed.
[38:06] 755 and 5655 and 56 are consent
[38:11] items sir So as 507 is just
[38:12] the proclamation.
[38:15] That's why I was giving you one
[38:16] minute.
[38:16] Well that's not enough, is it?
[38:21] Okay, well go ahead and start
[38:27] my minutes.
[38:27] >> Okay.
[38:28] I'm already Casco.
[38:33] There's been serious
[38:34] allegations brought to City
[38:35] council concerning Torrey Pines
[38:39] Blight report and I oppose
[38:39] issues Resolved.
[38:40] My first question are where
[38:45] the police reports and I have
[38:46] unanimous letters of support
[38:47] from the turnout I'm going to
[38:51] be that one that disrupts You
[38:52] said you want to speak on
[38:54] that's 5 or 7 Please speak on 5
[38:55] or 7 and then you can join us
[38:56] later this morning on that
[38:57] agenda public comment and you
[39:01] can speak on whatever you want
[39:02] to very simple rule them up
[39:03] until open public comment.
[39:03] >> Okay.
[39:07] Thank you very Joe McCarver You
[39:08] need it Tony, if you can please
[39:12] unmute and let me know which
[39:12] item or items you wish to speak
[39:17] to on the proclamation agenda
[39:18] The park You'll have a minute.
[39:23] >> Please proceed Right.
[39:24] >> I just wanted to say thank
[39:28] you wanted to say good morning
[39:29] .
[39:29] Wanted to comment on some of
[39:30] the comments that Audrey made
[39:34] appreciated the jokes,
[39:35] appreciate the levity and
[39:35] that's it.
[39:35] >> Thank you.
[39:36] Good morning.
[39:41] Thank you, Judy Strong.
[39:42] If you can please let me know
[39:42] which item or items you wish to
[39:46] speak to your final speaker of
[39:47] the five and minute timer has
[39:47] concluded.
[39:48] No additional speakers will be
[39:52] taken If you please unmute.
[39:52] >> Yes I wanted to speak to
[39:53] item 30 Park and Rickman.
[39:54] Please proceed.
[39:56] It's about this proclamation.
[40:02] It mentioned that Parks have
[40:02] power and they mentioned
[40:03] several.
[40:04] The three I was most taken with
[40:08] is the power of community where
[40:09] it offers spaces for everyone
[40:09] to gather and to celebrate and
[40:13] to heal the power of nature how
[40:14] it restores and inspires us and
[40:19] having parks around us ensure
[40:19] that everyone can have access
[40:20] to its benefits.
[40:23] And the third one the power of
[40:24] well being that park and rec
[40:28] opportunities advance our help
[40:28] and resilience and our shared
[40:29] community benefits.
[40:33] I think that those of us who
[40:34] work in public health this is
[40:35] part of the undercurrent of why
[40:38] smoke free and vape free parks
[40:39] and beaches are such an
[40:39] important part of our
[40:45] well-being For all of us as
[40:45] well as our sense of community.
[40:46] Thank you for let me share my
[40:49] thoughts.
[40:50] >> Thank you.
[40:51] And that concludes public
[40:51] comment on the proclamations.
[40:52] All right.
[40:55] Thank you, City clerk and with
[40:56] that I'll turn it over to my
[40:56] colleagues for comments and
[40:57] entertain a motion And we'll
[40:58] start with council member
[41:01] Whitman Thank you, Council
[41:01] PRESIDENT And thank you to my
[41:02] colleagues for bringing forward
[41:03] a number of meaningful
[41:06] proclamations This morning.
[41:06] There are obviously a lot of
[41:07] lederhosen fans here today I
[41:08] too will serve.
[41:11] I congratulate at a
[41:12] distinguished career in our
[41:12] library department and wish
[41:16] this process the very best at
[41:17] her retirement.
[41:17] I am honored to join Mayor
[41:18] Gloria in bringing forward a
[41:21] proclamation declaring like a
[41:22] Partizan day it recognizes 16
[41:22] years of leadership a
[41:26] transformational change at
[41:27] the Museum of Us and a park
[41:27] Under his leadership, Mr.
[41:31] Persson led the transformation
[41:32] of the San Diego Museum of Man
[41:33] into the Museum of Us, opened
[41:37] the California Tower to
[41:37] the public for the first time
[41:38] in over 80 years, expanded
[41:39] access to culture and learning
[41:42] for thousands of San Diego's
[41:43] and in doing so helped to
[41:43] provide free museum access to
[41:47] nearly 31,000 people in a
[41:47] single year.
[41:48] It He also started the museum
[41:52] to National Recognition earning
[41:53] the Kaleidoscope Award for good
[41:57] governance and becoming a two
[41:58] time finalist for the Institute
[41:59] of Museum and Library Services
[41:59] National Medal.
[42:03] His impact I would say Diego
[42:03] has really been tremendous and
[42:04] we wish him the very best as he
[42:08] moves on to tackle the next
[42:08] challenge.
[42:09] And finally just wish everybody
[42:09] a happy national park and
[42:13] recreation both to recognize
[42:14] and thank the employees of
[42:14] the city's Parks and Recreation
[42:17] department that our parks
[42:18] foundation for making our city
[42:18] parks so special And I will
[42:23] move approval of
[42:23] the proclamations.
[42:23] All right.
[42:24] Thank you, council members.
[42:25] So we have a motion by Council
[42:26] member Whitburn to move
[42:27] the proclamations and we'll go
[42:28] next to Council PRESIDENT Pro
[42:32] Tem Lee Thank you Council
[42:36] PRESIDENT First off on item 30
[42:37] I want to thank my colleagues
[42:40] I'm sorry I want to thank my
[42:41] colleagues for bringing forth
[42:41] this proclamation celebrating
[42:42] National Park and Recreation
[42:45] Month especially as we
[42:46] celebrate all that our Parks
[42:47] and recreation team here and
[42:50] the city does especially sort
[42:51] of supported by our Parks
[42:52] Foundation, which I appreciate
[42:52] seeing here today.
[42:56] Next I am going to speak to
[42:57] item s 500 where I'm proud to
[42:58] recognize Miramar Martial Arts
[43:01] Academy for its upcoming 30th
[43:01] anniversary since 1996 Miramar
[43:06] Martial Arts Academy has been a
[43:06] cornerstone of the Mira mesa
[43:07] and Miramar communities helping
[43:08] students of all ages build
[43:10] confidence, discipline,
[43:11] respect, leadership and a
[43:11] commitment to personal
[43:12] excellence through
[43:16] the traditional Korean martial
[43:16] art of Tang Sudo.
[43:17] I would also like to recognize
[43:20] Master Thomas Tai for his
[43:21] extraordinary leadership and
[43:24] dedication over the past three
[43:24] decades.
[43:25] Through his mentorship more
[43:26] than 160 students have achieved
[43:29] this distinguished rank of
[43:29] Black belt and countless
[43:30] families have been positively
[43:34] impacted by the values and life
[43:34] lessons taught at the Academy.
[43:35] His commitment to excellence is
[43:39] reflected not only in
[43:40] the success of his students but
[43:40] also in his achievements as a
[43:43] member of the su Burrito U.S.
[43:44] National team and as a master
[43:44] instructor.
[43:48] It's no surprise that many
[43:49] families in our community have
[43:49] often referenced the positive
[43:50] impact of Master Tai and his
[43:53] team have had on young people
[43:53] every day.
[43:54] >> And so as we celebrate
[43:57] Miramar Martial Arts Academy's
[43:57] 30th anniversary, we recognize
[43:58] its enduring legacy of
[44:01] community service excellence,
[44:02] mentorship and empowerment.
[44:02] And with that we're proud to
[44:06] proclaim AUGUST 15th, 2026 to
[44:10] be Miramar Martial Arts Academy
[44:11] 30th anniversary day in
[44:11] the city of San Diego Since
[44:12] Master Tom Cy is actually here
[44:15] in the audience I wanted to
[44:15] just invite you up if you
[44:16] wanted to share any remarks for
[44:24] a moment.
[44:25] Thank you.
[44:30] Just want to say thank you for
[44:30] acknowledging us and giving us
[44:34] this opportunity.
[44:35] You know, 30 years ago when I
[44:39] started the studio I was just a
[44:39] kind of last kid just got out
[44:40] of college, just got laid off
[44:44] from work, didn't have any
[44:45] where to go And it was just
[44:49] the passion and the art art and
[44:50] I just want to try it out and
[44:53] and I'm just happy that it's
[44:54] been here this long and got an
[44:58] opportunity to work with
[44:59] everyone and really in an honor
[45:03] to be here and to to be able to
[45:04] accept to acknowledge this.
[45:08] So thank you very much.
[45:08] >> Thank you.
[45:11] Next on item 507, I want to
[45:12] thank Councilmember Campbell
[45:13] for joining me on this
[45:16] proclamation recognizing Coates
[45:17] Disease Awareness Day.
[45:17] If many of you and these
[45:18] chambers have not heard of
[45:21] Coates disease before it,
[45:22] that's exactly why this item is
[45:22] important.
[45:25] Coates disease is a rare
[45:26] congenital and non hereditary
[45:27] eye disorder characterized by
[45:30] abnormal development of blood
[45:31] vessels in the retina resulting
[45:32] in trauma damage blindness or
[45:36] even removal of the eyes.
[45:37] A common disease a common sign
[45:41] of the disease is Luca chorea
[45:41] an abnormal white reflection of
[45:45] the retina and symptoms usually
[45:46] begin with blurred vision in
[45:47] one eye which is made more
[45:49] pronounced with one eye closed
[45:49] an early warning sign that's
[45:50] often seen especially with
[45:54] youth is yellow eyes in flash
[45:55] photography which is caused by
[45:59] light reflecting off
[46:00] the cholesterol deposits in
[46:00] the eye.
[46:03] And so if you see that that's
[46:04] something to be aware of
[46:05] observed each year on AUGUST
[46:08] 17th Coast disease awareness
[46:09] Day shines a light on this rare
[46:09] disease that does not yet have
[46:12] a cure and affects over 200,000
[46:13] people in the United States
[46:13] including thousands in San
[46:17] Diego.
[46:18] We also recognize those
[46:19] affected by Cote's disease and
[46:22] having their stories told and
[46:22] their journeys shared.
[46:23] And I'd like to specifically
[46:27] thank Paula Henning who's here
[46:28] in the audience with us.
[46:28] Paul, a regular attendee of
[46:29] the Mare Mesa Town Council.
[46:32] She's helped to bring forward
[46:33] this proclamation as a member
[46:33] of the community each year and
[46:36] she has often shared her story
[46:37] as someone who personally
[46:38] understands the significant
[46:40] impact of Curt's disease.
[46:41] And Paula, similarly if you'd
[46:42] like to come forward and share
[46:58] a few words.
[46:58] Yeah.
[46:58] Thank you, Council members.
[47:03] I'm sorry If you can speak into
[47:06] a microphone, you can pull them
[47:07] .
[47:07] There you go.
[47:08] Thank you so much.
[47:08] Thank you.
[47:17] And I do have a grandson that
[47:17] was diagnosed with the disease
[47:18] in 2008.
[47:21] It has been a very devastating
[47:26] journey but he has progressed
[47:26] pretty good with it.
[47:31] He now as of the last year
[47:31] become blind in one eye.
[47:35] And what's sad about these
[47:36] little kids, they don't get
[47:40] the diagnosis or the treatment
[47:40] that they have.
[47:41] A lot of them are in
[47:44] underprivileged communities
[47:45] that don't have the eye
[47:46] examinations.
[47:50] And like DR. MR. Kant said,
[47:51] just a flash photography
[47:55] parents can take a flash
[47:55] photography and see the glow of
[47:58] the white or the yellow eye
[47:59] which is extremely important to
[48:03] have diagnosed.
[48:08] It is very expensive for these
[48:09] kids to go through a disease
[48:13] regimen.
[48:14] And there's not that many
[48:18] people in San Diego which I
[48:19] hate to say a lot of
[48:19] the pediatricians and
[48:22] the ophthalmologists are still
[48:23] unaware of this condition which
[48:28] needs to be addressed to help
[48:29] these kids because it's sad to
[48:33] see a child lose their vision
[48:34] or even lose their eye because
[48:37] of it.
[48:38] But I want to thank the council
[48:42] here and I want to mention that
[48:46] San Diego was the first city to
[48:51] have the parkland Action for
[48:52] Coats Disease Awareness in
[48:52] the United States.
[48:56] So thank you.
[48:57] And I want to thank you for
[49:01] bringing this proclamation on
[49:05] AUGUST 17th of 2026 to bring
[49:05] this awareness to the facility
[49:10] to the communities.
[49:10] Thank you.
[49:11] One of the things really goes
[49:15] to Holland the for her
[49:16] leadership and her advocacy on
[49:17] this front.
[49:21] That concludes my remarks about
[49:21] PRESIDENT.
[49:22] Thank you.
[49:22] All right.
[49:23] My second that Oh yes, I will
[49:23] second the proclamation.
[49:25] All right.
[49:26] So we have a motion by
[49:27] Councilmember Whipper and
[49:27] the second by council PRESIDENT
[49:28] Pro Tem Lee.
[49:29] And we'll go next to council
[49:30] member Campbell.
[49:30] >> Thank you so much, Council
[49:31] PRESIDENT.
[49:34] Congratulations to everyone
[49:35] receiving plaques today.
[49:39] And I'm very happy to join my
[49:40] colleague council PRESIDENT Pro
[49:43] Tem Lee in proclaiming AUGUST
[49:44] 17th to be Coates Wear Coach
[49:48] Disease Awareness Day.
[49:49] In recognition of those who
[49:50] suffer from this rare disease,
[49:54] Coates Disease was discovered
[49:54] by ophthalmologist named George
[49:58] Coates in 1908.
[49:59] It occurs in young childhood
[50:03] and the cause is blood vessels
[50:03] in the eyes that develop
[50:08] abnormally resulting in eye
[50:08] trauma and loss of vision.
[50:09] There is no known cure for it
[50:13] but for those fortunate enough
[50:13] to catch it early treatment can
[50:17] sometimes slow the progression
[50:18] and help the symptoms.
[50:18] It's especially important to
[50:22] continue to raise awareness
[50:22] about lesser known diseases
[50:23] like Coates Disease.
[50:27] There are people in San Diego
[50:27] who live with Coates disease.
[50:28] And we must do everything we
[50:32] can to support them and their
[50:32] families.
[50:33] And thank you for all you have
[50:33] done to bring awareness.
[50:36] But by continuing to raise
[50:37] the awareness about this
[50:41] disease we can help to support
[50:42] research and make progress in
[50:42] treating and as soon as
[50:46] possible in curing this
[50:47] disease.
[50:47] Thank you.
[50:47] Council PRESIDENT.
[50:51] All right.
[50:52] Thank you, Council Mayor
[50:52] Campbell.
[50:53] We'll go next to council member
[50:55] Eli Rivera.
[50:56] >> All right.
[50:57] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.
[51:01] I want to start by thanking my
[51:01] colleagues for bringing forward
[51:02] these proclamations and say
[51:06] congratulation to all
[51:06] the recipients.
[51:07] Very quickly before I speak to
[51:11] to National Parks and
[51:12] Recreation but I did want to
[51:13] say thank you to MISS Rosas for
[51:15] her service to this city.
[51:16] The stories that we heard this
[51:20] morning in public comment were
[51:20] an incredible testament to
[51:24] the impact that librarians can
[51:25] make the libraries can make
[51:29] public employees can make and
[51:29] obviously the impact that
[51:34] you've made has been incredible
[51:35] and is just such a testament to
[51:39] the value of public service and
[51:40] why we appreciate those of you
[51:40] who've stayed with the city for
[51:44] such a long time.
[51:45] These are lifelong memories.
[51:45] I'm hearing that there are
[51:49] folks who are now educators
[51:49] because of the interactions
[51:50] that they had with you growing
[51:50] up.
[51:53] That's just incredibly
[51:54] inspiring to me And so I want
[51:54] to say thank you.
[51:58] As for National Park and
[52:02] Recreation Month, I will start
[52:03] by again thank you, my
[52:04] colleagues for bringing this
[52:08] forward with us.
[52:08] >> Parks are more than just
[52:09] green spaces.
[52:09] They're where community
[52:12] happens, where families gather
[52:13] ,kids find joy and neighbors
[52:13] come together across cultures
[52:17] and in too many neighborhoods
[52:17] access to safe quality parks
[52:18] has been treated like a luxury.
[52:22] But public space is not a
[52:22] privilege.
[52:22] It's a right.
[52:23] And every San Diego and in
[52:24] every zip code of our city
[52:27] deserves a clean welcoming
[52:27] place to connect, heal and
[52:28] thrive.
[52:28] Parks are essential
[52:31] infrastructure not only for
[52:32] public health but for climate
[52:32] resilience.
[52:35] And as we fight for
[52:36] environmental justice, we need
[52:36] to invest in green spaces that
[52:37] protect the people, protect
[52:41] people and protect our
[52:41] environment.
[52:42] Year after year our parks and
[52:46] recreation staff have been
[52:46] asked to do more with less.
[52:47] And nonetheless they still
[52:51] continue to show up for our
[52:51] communities.
[52:52] And as a result every day youth
[52:56] and families in San Diego form
[52:57] connections and memories that
[52:57] they will carry with them
[52:58] through the rest of our lives.
[53:00] And our elders are able to
[53:01] connect with one another and
[53:05] continue to find community.
[53:05] And none of this would be
[53:06] possible without Parks and Rec
[53:10] staff and the organizations
[53:10] that support them.
[53:11] I want to make sure I provide
[53:14] special thanks to the park
[53:14] Foundation and private
[53:15] charities for everything that
[53:19] you do to advocate for and
[53:20] invest in our park and rec
[53:21] system and to our parks and rec
[53:24] team here at the city.
[53:25] Thank you for strengthening our
[53:25] communities through hosting
[53:28] cultural celebrations, for
[53:29] cultivating relationships and
[53:30] uplifting our neighborhoods and
[53:33] all of their beautiful
[53:33] diversity.
[53:34] So let's celebrate our parks,
[53:38] honor the public servants who
[53:38] maintain them and recommit to
[53:39] building a San Diego where
[53:42] every child and every family
[53:48] has access to nature, joy and
[53:48] community.
[53:49] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[53:49] All right.
[53:50] Thank you, Council member
[53:50] Sheila Rivera.
[53:51] We'll go next to council member
[53:52] Moreno Thank you.
[53:53] >> I have comments on item 30.
[53:58] National Park and Rec month and
[54:01] also item s5a1 Elinor Rosas de
[54:02] item 30 celebrates parks and
[54:07] RECs across the nation.
[54:07] And I believe that access to
[54:08] parks helps create and maintain
[54:11] healthy communities physically
[54:12] but also mentally green spaces
[54:16] throughout our communities
[54:17] helps lessen the impact also of
[54:18] climate change and helps
[54:22] provide shade and cooler areas
[54:22] for people The people of
[54:25] District eight absolutely love
[54:26] and enjoy all the parks
[54:30] throughout our communities from
[54:31] Chicano Park and Memorial Park
[54:32] in the north to Montgomery,
[54:35] Waller and Cesar Solis in
[54:35] the South.
[54:38] But we need more parks in
[54:39] District eight.
[54:39] I am very proud to have built
[54:43] parks where there were once
[54:44] empty lots.
[54:45] Those empty lots are now being
[54:49] transformed to buyer Park
[54:49] Rivera del Sol Park, Hidden
[54:54] Trails Park and Grove Park.
[54:55] Rivera del Sol which was a
[54:58] vacant lot for 20 years, was
[54:58] recently opened in
[54:59] the community of Oceanview
[55:03] Hills and this year we expect
[55:04] Phase one of Beier Park to
[55:07] become an it b to become open
[55:08] to the public which will be a
[55:12] major victory for the people of
[55:13] San Ysidro who have long
[55:16] watched this site sit unused
[55:17] for three decades now It will
[55:21] be a focus of community
[55:21] activity.
[55:22] Also Hidden Trails Park is
[55:26] under construction and Grove
[55:26] Avenue Park is fully funded as
[55:31] of JANUARY eight and should be
[55:32] out to bid.
[55:32] I think it's really interesting
[55:36] because we have the Park and
[55:37] Rec Foundation here and when
[55:37] they asked me to give them a
[55:41] tour of our parks I took them
[55:42] to Grove Avenue Park and we
[55:45] went inside to the vacant lot
[55:46] and everybody looked around and
[55:51] was like Why do you why did you
[55:51] bring us here?
[55:52] And I told them I brought you
[55:55] here because I want you to feel
[55:56] what District eight residents
[56:00] feel And I think that was very
[56:00] powerful And that's why
[56:01] hopefully what we broke ground
[56:05] in JANUARY and I expect that
[56:06] we're in bed But I won't ask
[56:09] right now.
[56:10] In the last seven years we've
[56:13] also refurbished five existing
[56:14] parks That's Memorial Coral
[56:18] Gate Robert Eggers, Senior
[56:19] South Bay Sherman Heights and
[56:19] Colonel Solomon.
[56:23] The more parks we have
[56:24] the stronger and healthier our
[56:24] communities are And I will
[56:25] continue to be a fierce
[56:28] advocate to make sure our
[56:29] residents have access to parks
[56:29] in the neighborhoods.
[56:33] So I'm absolutely honored to
[56:34] co-sponsor this proclamation
[56:34] with Council PRESIDENT LaCava
[56:38] Foster and Isla Rivera as we
[56:42] proclaim JULY as National Park
[56:43] and Rec month in the City of
[56:48] San Diego Item as s508 is MISS
[56:52] Elinor Rosas day MISS Elinor
[56:53] Rosas will be retiring from
[56:56] Logan Heights Library in early
[56:57] AUGUST after 40 years of public
[56:57] service to the San Diego Public
[57:01] Library System and to the Logan
[57:02] Heights community.
[57:06] MISS Rosas began her career at
[57:07] the Logan Heights Library in
[57:10] 1988 when the library was small
[57:11] but mighty.
[57:11] MISS Rosas has played a
[57:15] significant role in the history
[57:16] of the Logan Heights Library.
[57:16] She played a role in the grant
[57:20] development process and even
[57:21] helped plan the grand opening
[57:21] of the new Logan Heights
[57:25] Library that sits just about
[57:30] 200 yards away from the old
[57:30] Logan Heights Library.
[57:31] MISS Rosa has brought a
[57:34] thoughtful library and programs
[57:35] to the community such as
[57:35] bilingual library programing
[57:39] for people of all ages and
[57:39] hosted Mother's Day
[57:44] celebrations at the library In
[57:44] 2020 she helped host the
[57:49] League baseball player Travel
[57:49] exhibition and a panel as part
[57:54] of as part of the Black History
[57:54] Month.
[57:55] There was a panel that was very
[57:56] enlightening to see some of
[57:59] the players that are still
[57:59] alive and also not forgetting
[58:04] what Lou what Logan Heights
[58:04] was.
[58:05] It wasn't just a Latino
[58:06] community but it was an African
[58:09] American community as well and
[58:09] still is.
[58:10] And for many years she also
[58:13] coordinated coordinated annual
[58:18] free tax preparation events.
[58:19] >> Earlier this year she helped
[58:19] coordinate a nationally
[58:20] significant event with
[58:23] the United States Postal
[58:24] Service to unveil the first low
[58:28] rider stamp here in Logan
[58:28] Heights Library.
[58:28] She's MS..
[58:32] Rosa has has earned a loving
[58:33] name as the Logan librarian for
[58:34] her deep and authentic sense of
[58:37] community.
[58:38] She has served several
[58:39] generations of Logan Heights
[58:42] residents who grew up in
[58:43] the library.
[58:43] And as you heard from public
[58:47] testimony, Logan Heights
[58:48] Library is not just your
[58:48] regular library it's community
[58:52] where innovation happens and
[58:52] it's a cultural hub.
[58:56] >> MS. Rosa has served on
[58:57] the on several committees
[58:58] including Library Rewards and
[59:02] Recognition community Committee
[59:02] as a founding member and later
[59:03] was nominated to serve on
[59:07] the San Diego Public Library's
[59:08] Tactical Plan Committee.
[59:08] MISS Rosa, thank you for your
[59:12] continue service for District
[59:12] eight.
[59:17] I think you exemplify the very
[59:18] best of the City of San Diego
[59:22] Employee You're loving your
[59:22] caring and you're a dedicated
[59:23] public servant and I thank you
[59:26] from the bottom of my heart for
[59:27] serving San Diego the way that
[59:31] you did.
[59:32] And I also want to note one of
[59:36] the managers once wrote MISS
[59:37] Olina is a role model for every
[59:41] city employee and exemplifies a
[59:42] standard of excellence that all
[59:43] employees strive for in a city
[59:46] career.
[59:47] And we're lucky to have her
[59:48] devoted service.
[59:52] Thank you for your dedication.
[59:52] So congratulations MS..
[59:53] Rosas on your service and I
[59:55] would like to invite you if you
[1:00:05] would like to say a few words.
[1:00:10] I wrote something down.
[1:00:11] >> Thank you, Councilmember
[1:00:11] Moreno.
[1:00:15] And I'm really I'm really proud
[1:00:19] and to have served the city for
[1:00:20] this length of time And I want
[1:00:25] to say that I was born in Logan
[1:00:25] Heights, grew up in Logan
[1:00:30] Heights, Logan Heights, the old
[1:00:30] Logan High Slavery was my
[1:00:31] childhood library I went to
[1:00:34] then Lowell Elementary no
[1:00:35] Perkins Elementary so we used
[1:00:39] to walk to the old library when
[1:00:40] I was a child and this is
[1:00:42] actually my second time
[1:00:43] addressing the council.
[1:00:44] The first time was in 1980.
[1:00:48] Some people in this room a lot
[1:00:48] of people in this room weren't
[1:00:49] even born yet.
[1:00:53] So and that was when I was
[1:00:53] involved with the barrio
[1:00:54] Station where I learned
[1:00:58] community service from Rachel.
[1:00:58] So she was a great teacher When
[1:01:03] I started at the Logan Heights
[1:01:03] Library.
[1:01:04] MR. 1 or 2 years was actually
[1:01:07] my first supervisor and biggest
[1:01:08] point the first thing he wanted
[1:01:12] me to learn was that we had to
[1:01:13] give the service to
[1:01:13] the community that it was not
[1:01:14] just a place where you went to
[1:01:17] look at books, check out books
[1:01:18] that we need it to give people
[1:01:21] a feeling of community, a
[1:01:22] feeling of family welcoming to
[1:01:26] everybody every single day.
[1:01:27] And when kids would act up one
[1:01:28] day he said okay, tomorrow when
[1:01:28] they walk in the door you
[1:01:31] pretend nothing happened.
[1:01:32] It's a brand new day and you
[1:01:33] welcome them again.
[1:01:36] You give them a chance and just
[1:01:36] give them direction.
[1:01:37] A lot of these kids just need
[1:01:41] direction So he allowed me to
[1:01:42] share my experience, my
[1:01:42] connections with the community
[1:01:45] I work with a federation,
[1:01:46] the barrio station.
[1:01:47] I had friends that worked in
[1:01:50] different organizations and
[1:01:51] those connections actually
[1:01:55] proved really important when we
[1:01:56] were working on the grant for
[1:01:59] the new building because they
[1:02:00] were able to give us letters of
[1:02:05] partnership letters agreeing to
[1:02:05] work with us after we opened
[1:02:06] during the during
[1:02:14] the construction I don't know
[1:02:15] so many things and so many
[1:02:19] things to say as the my kids my
[1:02:23] library kids told you we've had
[1:02:24] all these kids coming through
[1:02:25] experiencing all these things,
[1:02:28] sharing their lives with us.
[1:02:29] Parents have come back years
[1:02:32] later telling us the impact
[1:02:33] that we had on their lives
[1:02:34] unknowing to us because they
[1:02:37] didn't share with us what they
[1:02:38] were going through.
[1:02:39] But they said that us opening
[1:02:39] the space to them, sharing
[1:02:43] programing, arts and crafts,
[1:02:43] storytelling you know things
[1:02:44] how we were you know we were
[1:02:48] just you know, providing
[1:02:48] services to the community and
[1:02:52] it was allowing them an escape
[1:02:53] from whatever was going on at
[1:02:56] home And then with us sharing
[1:02:57] what we knew that was going on
[1:02:58] in the community services that
[1:02:59] were available to them, they
[1:03:02] were able to get out of that
[1:03:02] situation or improve their
[1:03:06] situation, get food, get
[1:03:07] served, get legal services,
[1:03:11] domestic violence assistance
[1:03:12] all these things you know,
[1:03:12] people come back later and tell
[1:03:16] us these things and it makes
[1:03:16] everything seem worthwhile what
[1:03:20] we do every day and I run into
[1:03:21] parents at the grocery store at
[1:03:26] Costco and then they there was
[1:03:27] a mom Oh she says let me show
[1:03:27] you pictures.
[1:03:29] My daughter just graduated from
[1:03:30] medical school.
[1:03:30] There's teachers in
[1:03:35] the community that grew up at
[1:03:35] the library.
[1:03:36] They're now teachers, they're
[1:03:36] principals.
[1:03:39] They're in neighborhood schools
[1:03:45] Emerson, Lincoln, you know, all
[1:03:46] you know, all our local schools
[1:03:46] they were kids that went to
[1:03:49] the library And you know,
[1:03:50] people that are administrators
[1:03:54] We have doctors to use.
[1:03:55] One of the moms told me her son
[1:03:56] has a Ph.D. And I was I can't
[1:03:59] remember what science with some
[1:04:00] sort of science There was a
[1:04:00] young man that came to the old
[1:04:03] library right before we closed
[1:04:04] .
[1:04:05] He wanted to see it one last
[1:04:05] time before it was closed
[1:04:06] because he was in the army and
[1:04:09] he was overseas and he was
[1:04:10] telling me all about how
[1:04:10] the library had really inspired
[1:04:13] him And he came back and talked
[1:04:14] about that.
[1:04:15] So I just want to say in
[1:04:18] closing that I hope the city
[1:04:18] can continue providing our
[1:04:23] communities the opportunity to
[1:04:24] access these services by having
[1:04:28] a place that's a place where
[1:04:33] they can go and you know, take
[1:04:34] part in all of these
[1:04:34] activities.
[1:04:35] And and I ask that you continue
[1:04:38] to search for ways to help
[1:04:39] the communities and help
[1:04:43] the staff because difficult
[1:04:43] times that we've gone through
[1:04:44] and I've seen a lot in the time
[1:04:48] I've been there, you know, we
[1:04:48] persevered and we try to
[1:04:53] continue giving people the same
[1:04:53] level of service And it does
[1:04:54] impact not only the public but
[1:04:57] also staff.
[1:04:58] But I want to thank you very
[1:04:59] much for this acknowledgment.
[1:05:02] Thank thank you.
[1:05:06] >> I also I would want I want
[1:05:07] to recognize our library
[1:05:08] director Misty Jones for being
[1:05:11] here.
[1:05:12] >> I thought I saw her this
[1:05:13] morning and that concludes my
[1:05:13] comments.
[1:05:16] Thank you.
[1:05:17] Thank you, Councilmember
[1:05:17] Moreno.
[1:05:21] And we'll go next to
[1:05:21] Councilmember Foster.
[1:05:22] >> Yes, Thank you.
[1:05:26] Council PRESIDENT, Just quickly
[1:05:26] want to say congratulations to
[1:05:30] all of the proclamation
[1:05:31] recipients.
[1:05:31] It's always good to take a
[1:05:35] moment out to acknowledge
[1:05:36] the good work of organizations
[1:05:41] and individuals Um, I call it
[1:05:42] the heartbeat of the city,
[1:05:42] right?
[1:05:43] And always always need to give
[1:05:46] that acknowledgment in National
[1:05:50] Park and Recreation Month.
[1:05:51] Hopefully since I've been on
[1:05:55] this council I've effectively
[1:05:56] conveyed just how important
[1:06:00] Park and Rec is to me how
[1:06:01] important park and rec is to
[1:06:05] district for um you know these
[1:06:10] spaces um quite honestly are
[1:06:11] more than parks and they're
[1:06:14] where fellowship happens There
[1:06:14] where community comes together
[1:06:15] where neighbors can meet
[1:06:19] neighbors and folks can
[1:06:19] celebrate.
[1:06:24] We just had a main event this
[1:06:28] weekend at Marie Whitman Park,
[1:06:29] the 2026 Encanto Block Party a
[1:06:33] music festival.
[1:06:34] I must say it was a very
[1:06:38] touching time for me as a as a
[1:06:42] young boy that grew up in
[1:06:42] District four that was familiar
[1:06:47] with the Encanto Street Fair.
[1:06:48] Um, for those that don't know
[1:06:52] that that name we can't use it
[1:06:52] was copyrighted.
[1:06:53] Um, but one of the things we
[1:06:57] set out to do was to figure out
[1:06:58] how can we bring that back And
[1:07:01] it came back in the under
[1:07:02] the auspices of the 2026
[1:07:06] Encanto Block party And I must
[1:07:09] say we probably had um well
[1:07:10] over a thousand people that
[1:07:14] came out to the park all ages,
[1:07:15] all ethnicities And I must say
[1:07:19] it was just truly, truly a
[1:07:20] beautiful beautiful event And
[1:07:25] um, that's why Parks and Rec is
[1:07:26] so important to me And it's not
[1:07:28] just one park and District
[1:07:28] four.
[1:07:29] We got a lot of things going on
[1:07:30] and I just want to say thank
[1:07:33] you to the Parks Foundation.
[1:07:38] Um, ever since you stood up as
[1:07:42] an organization um I must say
[1:07:42] you've been focused on District
[1:07:47] four bringing in events to
[1:07:48] the district movies in the park
[1:07:52] movies at night all the events
[1:07:52] that you do is just really been
[1:07:53] about community.
[1:07:57] Um, I think I see Michelle in
[1:07:57] the audience and in chambers
[1:08:01] and he always says until
[1:08:02] the Park Foundation was stood
[1:08:02] up we didn't have those
[1:08:03] amenities right?
[1:08:06] Councilmember We didn't have
[1:08:07] movies in the park.
[1:08:08] We didn't have a place for
[1:08:12] young folks, young families to
[1:08:12] go on those Friday nights or
[1:08:16] those Saturday nights.
[1:08:17] So I'll just thank you for
[1:08:17] that.
[1:08:18] I also would like to thank San
[1:08:21] Diego fc for all the things
[1:08:21] that they are doing,
[1:08:22] the investments they're
[1:08:26] bringing to the park.
[1:08:26] I'm really interested in park
[1:08:27] and what we just did in our
[1:08:27] hard core.
[1:08:31] It's just amazing, amazing
[1:08:31] work, beautiful work and so
[1:08:35] just really thankful Also
[1:08:36] thankful to the Parks and Rec
[1:08:41] staff for everything that they
[1:08:41] do.
[1:08:42] Um, you know it was up to me I
[1:08:45] might have every park open
[1:08:46] every hour of the day, lights
[1:08:51] in every park and just really
[1:08:51] bring a community together.
[1:08:52] So just really want to shout
[1:08:56] out National Park and
[1:08:56] Recreation Month and I'm going
[1:08:57] to continue to make sure we
[1:09:00] have our parks and rec
[1:09:01] facilities open.
[1:09:01] So that's how important this is
[1:09:06] to me making sure that we're
[1:09:06] making the appropriate upgrades
[1:09:07] and investments so that every
[1:09:10] family, every family has a
[1:09:11] place to go when they want to
[1:09:12] fellowship, have fun and just
[1:09:17] relax and and and love on one
[1:09:17] another.
[1:09:18] So congratulations and just
[1:09:21] thank you so much.
[1:09:22] And that concludes my comments.
[1:09:23] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[1:09:23] Thank you Councilmember Foster
[1:09:27] I think everyone's had a chance
[1:09:32] to speak Who wants to I'll
[1:09:32] offer a few comments myself.
[1:09:33] I'll start out with a response
[1:09:37] to one of the public commenters
[1:09:38] .
[1:09:38] Proclamations are part of
[1:09:39] the official business of
[1:09:40] the city of San Diego the city
[1:09:40] Council.
[1:09:43] It is a brown Act requirement
[1:09:43] that we do things out a notice
[1:09:48] to public hearing and I think
[1:09:49] Council then council PRESIDENT
[1:09:49] Eli Rivera wisely moved
[1:09:53] the proclamations up front And
[1:09:54] then when I took over I
[1:09:55] codified it so that we would do
[1:09:55] that.
[1:09:59] So you would have a time clock
[1:10:00] when you show up you wouldn't
[1:10:02] show up in the morning for
[1:10:03] the 2:00 session If you want to
[1:10:04] speak on the consent items
[1:10:09] probably I want to show up at
[1:10:09] 10:00 because we know we're
[1:10:10] going to go through the box.
[1:10:12] It's probably gonna take 45
[1:10:13] minutes an hour to do that But
[1:10:13] I think it is one of
[1:10:14] the special things that this
[1:10:17] city does as my colleagues
[1:10:18] mentioned is an opportunity to
[1:10:19] highlight something that maybe
[1:10:20] the general public doesn't know
[1:10:23] about or to recognize someone
[1:10:23] who has been in that long
[1:10:24] standing and city employee.
[1:10:28] So I always appreciate that And
[1:10:29] to the items it throws off it
[1:10:30] is always a sad day when we
[1:10:34] lose someone who is so beloved
[1:10:35] as a librarian But it's also a
[1:10:36] joyful day because now you get
[1:10:39] to enjoy all that hard work and
[1:10:40] the reward of retirement.
[1:10:40] So the best of luck in
[1:10:45] retirement and I'll speak on
[1:10:45] item 13 National Park and
[1:10:46] Recreation Month.
[1:10:50] As my colleague said in
[1:10:50] partnership with Councilmembers
[1:10:51] Foster Councilmember Moreno and
[1:10:52] Councilmember Eli Rivera, we
[1:10:56] proclaim the month of JULY 2026
[1:10:57] to be National Park and
[1:10:57] Recreation Month in the city of
[1:11:02] San Diego.
[1:11:02] Our parks at the heart of what
[1:11:03] makes San Diego the amazing
[1:11:04] place that it is from being
[1:11:07] the gathering place for
[1:11:08] neighborhood events sports to a
[1:11:08] place where people of all ages
[1:11:09] can enjoy being in our
[1:11:12] community and the outdoors.
[1:11:13] And all of this would not be
[1:11:14] possible without the public
[1:11:18] service of the employees of our
[1:11:19] Parks and Recreation Department
[1:11:19] who make it their mission to
[1:11:20] ensure that our green spaces
[1:11:24] are healthy, sustainable and
[1:11:25] enriching for every visitor in
[1:11:26] San Diego And I will give a
[1:11:30] shout out to the work to
[1:11:31] the Parks and Recreation
[1:11:31] Department is done in my
[1:11:32] district District one but also
[1:11:35] in particular what the Parks
[1:11:36] Foundation has done in District
[1:11:36] one as well.
[1:11:37] And while they've done amazing
[1:11:41] work in our under-resourced
[1:11:42] communities, we're certainly
[1:11:43] grateful in District one that
[1:11:47] you helped make possible
[1:11:48] separate turf tracking of
[1:11:49] the Scripps Park as well as us
[1:11:53] playground over at Fan Well
[1:11:53] Street Park nice additions for
[1:11:58] those particular neighborhoods
[1:11:59] to enjoy what the city has to
[1:11:59] offer.
[1:12:00] So thank you to everyone with
[1:12:01] the Parks and Recreation
[1:12:04] Department nonprofit
[1:12:05] organizations and volunteers
[1:12:05] for making San Diego more
[1:12:06] welcoming and accessible for
[1:12:10] all to enjoy.
[1:12:11] And with that we have a motion
[1:12:17] by council member Whitburn and
[1:12:17] a second by Council PRESIDENT
[1:12:18] Pro Tem Lee.
[1:12:22] Please call the roll I'm sorry
[1:12:23] the voting system Please cast
[1:12:28] your vote that passes
[1:12:29] unanimously 8 to 0 with
[1:12:29] Councilmember Campo absent.
[1:12:30] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[1:12:30] All right.
[1:12:33] Thank you.
[1:12:34] And we will now pause for
[1:12:35] photos.
[1:12:35] Now we're going to do things a
[1:12:36] little bit differently than we
[1:12:40] did in the past.
[1:12:40] It's really important to keep
[1:12:41] the both aisles clear for
[1:12:46] everyone's public safety.
[1:12:46] So if you're going to come up
[1:12:47] for pictures, please remain
[1:12:52] seated until you're called that
[1:12:53] way to ensure that our aisles
[1:12:53] are kept clear.
[1:12:57] But we're going to start with
[1:12:57] our 500th Miramar Martial Arts
[1:12:58] 30th anniversary day so you can
[1:13:03] come up and watch for Heidi
[1:13:03] Signal about who is next after
[1:13:04] that.
[1:13:04] But please remain seated.
[1:13:06] Keep those aisles clear.
[1:15:08] >> Thank you
[1:16:43] .
[1:18:44] And
[1:21:12] all right.
[1:21:18] As the public exits, we will
[1:21:19] now proceed with the approval
[1:21:19] of the consent items.
[1:21:24] Are there any request to pull a
[1:21:25] consent item by the council?
[1:21:26] I see there aren't any.
[1:21:31] So Clerk please proceed with
[1:21:32] public comment on the consent
[1:21:32] item.
[1:21:32] Thank you.
[1:21:35] Council PRESIDENT Please note
[1:21:36] each record of one minute per
[1:21:36] item per person.
[1:21:37] If you would like to speak on
[1:21:37] three or more items you'll have
[1:21:40] a maximum of three minutes.
[1:21:41] The consent agenda includes
[1:21:47] items 1053 56 6061 103 114
[1:21:51] That's 5a1274 and 5192 as 511
[1:21:51] we did receive comments on
[1:21:56] items one at 12 one in favor
[1:21:57] and items as 5042 opposed and
[1:22:02] one in favor of your comment
[1:22:02] form which have been
[1:22:03] distributed to the Council.
[1:22:04] Also let me note for the record
[1:22:04] the potential appointments that
[1:22:09] are on the agenda this morning
[1:22:09] .
[1:22:10] Item 114 is a potential
[1:22:10] appointment of Michelle Eastman
[1:22:11] to the Accessibility Advisory
[1:22:14] Board and item as my vote to is
[1:22:15] the potential reappointment of
[1:22:20] Darlene moment on record
[1:22:21] Stephen Chatzky, Walter Jordan,
[1:22:21] Senator Maria Lozano Diaz and
[1:22:25] Clovis honor to the Commission
[1:22:26] on Police Practices starting
[1:22:27] with Samuel Merrill.
[1:22:31] If you can please come up to
[1:22:32] the front speaking on item one
[1:22:38] at 12 and after that we have
[1:22:39] Maximilian Schmidt, Karen b and
[1:22:39] allegedly Andre as well as Paul
[1:22:45] Krueger.
[1:22:46] If you can all please come up
[1:22:46] to the front row.
[1:22:47] You're speaking at 112.
[1:22:47] You'll have one minute.
[1:22:50] Please proceed.
[1:22:50] Thank you.
[1:22:50] Good morning.
[1:22:51] I'm Samuel Merrill.
[1:22:51] Beyond the harm that
[1:22:57] discrimination causes, we see
[1:22:58] that it also creates a
[1:22:58] financial burden for the city.
[1:22:59] 3.1 million is the practice
[1:23:03] city has to pay for this
[1:23:04] particular settlement if you
[1:23:04] count back the past 12 months
[1:23:05] have seen the street
[1:23:07] discrimination settlements
[1:23:08] the figures close to 4 million.
[1:23:09] This is a clear indication that
[1:23:09] the city needs to address
[1:23:12] the root causes of
[1:23:13] discrimination in
[1:23:13] the workforce.
[1:23:14] There are a number of factors
[1:23:15] to consider and
[1:23:19] the underrepresentation in
[1:23:20] the management leadership
[1:23:20] promotion selection practices
[1:23:25] and organizational culture its
[1:23:26] accountability people policies,
[1:23:30] procedures with others
[1:23:30] accountability The city will
[1:23:36] continue to pay the price.
[1:23:37] Maximilian Schmidt You're
[1:23:42] speaking on item 5051 and 110
[1:23:43] You'll have three minutes.
[1:23:48] >> Please proceed on for
[1:23:54] the update to the parking meter
[1:23:55] zone boundaries on I just
[1:24:00] wanted to say that this sounds
[1:24:01] like a crazy thing to many
[1:24:06] people but a lot of cities are
[1:24:06] starting to have cheaper
[1:24:12] parking and even free parking
[1:24:18] And I know at Double Park on on
[1:24:18] the San Diego City Council did
[1:24:24] a good job on free parking And
[1:24:24] I think that parking should be
[1:24:30] on more places in the city You
[1:24:31] should be free to park And
[1:24:31] that's because sales on
[1:24:37] property and cannabis taxes are
[1:24:37] already too high.
[1:24:42] And as for the massive
[1:24:42] undergrounding utilities
[1:24:43] program going on all in San
[1:24:49] Diego, it's a huge undertaking
[1:24:50] and I think one of the grossest
[1:24:55] misallocation of resources
[1:24:55] that's currently happening in
[1:25:01] San Diego only a select number
[1:25:02] of cities across the world have
[1:25:03] put all their power lines
[1:25:03] underground.
[1:25:07] I saw like Tokyo, Japan on one
[1:25:12] of them and I just come from
[1:25:13] the perspective of someone who
[1:25:18] needs to use the library on
[1:25:19] pretty frequently to access
[1:25:25] the Internet and to charge my
[1:25:25] devices.
[1:25:26] The library is completely
[1:25:31] closed on Sunday and only opens
[1:25:32] at 11:30 A.M. On Monday and
[1:25:33] Tuesday and then hundreds of
[1:25:37] millions $250 million to put
[1:25:37] the utility power lines
[1:25:42] underground on for esthetic
[1:25:42] reasons.
[1:25:43] It seems as if as I said,
[1:25:49] the grossest misallocation of
[1:25:49] resources is happening in San
[1:25:54] Diego with the house prices
[1:25:55] becoming more expensive and
[1:25:56] many people not wanting to move
[1:26:01] on that's basically all that
[1:26:01] happens as the property tax
[1:26:02] goes up on the on the House It
[1:26:06] does It And so that's and
[1:26:07] the cannabis tax is extremely
[1:26:12] unfair and ridiculous And then
[1:26:13] also sales tax So then
[1:26:18] the parking I think should be
[1:26:19] cheaper and I think you
[1:26:19] shouldn't use all these taxes
[1:26:20] to put the power lines
[1:26:25] underground in this giant
[1:26:25] massive undertaking that only
[1:26:26] Tokyo Japan has done something
[1:26:30] like that And then the library
[1:26:31] can't even open all day Sunday
[1:26:36] or it opens at noon on Monday
[1:26:37] and Tuesday because of a lack
[1:26:37] of resources Seems like a
[1:26:42] misallocation and I and I just
[1:26:42] want to say that free parking
[1:26:47] isn't something that is like
[1:26:48] that far fetched.
[1:26:49] I think it's becoming more
[1:26:54] common and I'm Thank you thank
[1:26:55] you for that compelling comment
[1:27:07] Karen we're seeing in item 52
[1:27:14] is we seeing Okay.
[1:27:14] Thank you.
[1:27:14] Good morning.
[1:27:19] I last night I looked at
[1:27:20] the JUNE 18th Environmental
[1:27:25] Committee meeting where
[1:27:26] the contract extension was
[1:27:26] approved for Barrick the trash
[1:27:31] truck and container company.
[1:27:32] There was no presentation given
[1:27:33] and no questions asked and it
[1:27:37] was approved unanimously as
[1:27:38] part of that contract extension
[1:27:43] they approved the vision truck
[1:27:43] Services and the rfid reader to
[1:27:44] be implemented on the trucks
[1:27:50] and that is a hopper camera
[1:27:50] that looks at trash being
[1:27:54] dumped for every customer in
[1:27:55] San Diego And then on JULY 2nd
[1:28:00] with communication from Arnie's
[1:28:01] office they said it was just
[1:28:02] going to be a pilot program and
[1:28:06] that the information was not
[1:28:07] recorded or collected But
[1:28:07] the information from
[1:28:13] the website says at the push of
[1:28:13] a button they can create a
[1:28:18] report in real time with all of
[1:28:19] contamination including comment
[1:28:23] allegedly order You'll have
[1:28:24] three minutes for speaking And
[1:28:28] it was 50 5153 5661 101 50
[1:28:29] (212)210-5119 112 113 As we
[1:28:33] move forward please proceed.
[1:28:34] >> Free parking isn't good for
[1:28:34] business.
[1:28:35] This is a business so you know
[1:28:35] what I mean.
[1:28:38] You got to do that.
[1:28:39] But I think we should ban all
[1:28:39] paid parking.
[1:28:40] That'll never happen.
[1:28:43] I mean $75 parking tickets are
[1:28:43] crazy.
[1:28:44] You guys are making a lot of
[1:28:48] money and then Henry, you care
[1:28:49] about Parks?
[1:28:49] >> That's so funny.
[1:28:50] Only if your family's not going
[1:28:54] to profit.
[1:28:55] >> Right?
[1:28:55] Because you know, you put a
[1:28:56] development there if you are
[1:29:00] and then with this rfid chip
[1:29:01] that's pretty crazy.
[1:29:01] And then also like because
[1:29:06] these parts and the waste cards
[1:29:06] someone just came in and said
[1:29:07] that their tractors are being
[1:29:10] picked up if they're not three
[1:29:10] feet apart.
[1:29:11] So I think you guys need to
[1:29:12] really think about that because
[1:29:12] these people are paying and
[1:29:15] they don't even get their trash
[1:29:15] picked up.
[1:29:16] That's that's not good.
[1:29:20] And then prevailing wage Yeah
[1:29:21] you guys are just gaslighting
[1:29:22] the people Now with this
[1:29:25] amendment to the municipal code
[1:29:26] regarding the Unified School
[1:29:26] District Board of Education I
[1:29:30] think you guys need to be aware
[1:29:31] that Scott Wiener has taken a
[1:29:32] bill where it was going to make
[1:29:36] sure that sexual predators
[1:29:37] including pedophiles were not
[1:29:41] allowed to be a public official
[1:29:41] .
[1:29:42] However, he wanted to take out
[1:29:43] the pedophiles because you
[1:29:47] know, we have to glorify them
[1:29:47] and that would be totally
[1:29:48] discriminatory.
[1:29:49] >> So they're going to be in
[1:29:49] the schools.
[1:29:52] Well, they already are at
[1:29:52] Sunset Elementary, right,
[1:29:53] Vivian?
[1:29:53] Right.
[1:29:56] Naptime children just being
[1:29:57] sexually molested.
[1:29:57] It's so good they do it.
[1:29:58] They just get real comfortable.
[1:30:02] They do.
[1:30:03] They do it right out in
[1:30:03] the open.
[1:30:04] So nothing to worry about there
[1:30:04] though.
[1:30:05] Let's not protect children.
[1:30:07] Just give them some sexual
[1:30:08] books and those people will
[1:30:09] just be a magnet for them.
[1:30:12] These poisons that you're
[1:30:13] putting in the pure water Why
[1:30:18] is use for acclimation?
[1:30:18] >> So I'm wondering are we
[1:30:19] going to put bodies in there to
[1:30:20] dissolve them?
[1:30:23] How is that not going to grow
[1:30:24] the metal in the pipes?
[1:30:24] It does but that would mean
[1:30:28] that it it doesn't harm soft
[1:30:29] tissue or anything like that.
[1:30:29] But it's cool because all
[1:30:32] the aborted babies that people
[1:30:33] are flushed down the toilet
[1:30:34] will you know, be taken care of
[1:30:43] and then let's see the uh hmm
[1:30:43] Oh yes.
[1:30:44] >> No spraying of your
[1:30:45] glyphosate with these
[1:30:48] landscaping initiatives that
[1:30:48] you guys have.
[1:30:49] Roundup is being sprayed and
[1:30:53] it's extremely toxic to
[1:30:54] children to wherever So it's
[1:30:55] being put in parks and things
[1:30:58] like that.
[1:30:59] I think you guys need to think
[1:30:59] about poisoning people but
[1:31:00] we're doing it with the water.
[1:31:03] We can dissolve those bodies to
[1:31:04] the fencing.
[1:31:04] Tent city is like a prison
[1:31:08] because the fencing is going in
[1:31:09] So that's interesting.
[1:31:10] I wonder if they're going to
[1:31:10] maybe turn it around so those
[1:31:14] people don't get stuck in there
[1:31:14] with the fire.
[1:31:15] As far as these settlements, I
[1:31:16] think you need to start putting
[1:31:19] those amounts back up where you
[1:31:20] don't just have to click on to
[1:31:20] the item.
[1:31:24] And as far as housing goes it's
[1:31:25] like nobody can afford to rent.
[1:31:26] And so the fact that you guys
[1:31:29] want to put them in housing I
[1:31:30] don't think that they
[1:31:31] understand what they're getting
[1:31:31] into there And you're but I
[1:31:34] mean you can take their home so
[1:31:34] that's cool.
[1:31:35] >> Paul Kruger you're speaking
[1:31:42] on items a 5050 to 112 and s504
[1:31:43] you will have three minutes.
[1:31:43] Please proceed.
[1:31:44] Thank you.
[1:31:47] Um, I'm not sure of
[1:31:48] the protocol here but please
[1:31:51] give more discussion to item
[1:31:52] 52.
[1:31:55] This is a $106 million For
[1:31:56] what?
[1:31:56] According to the report is just
[1:32:00] trash bin repair errors.
[1:32:01] It doesn't even say
[1:32:05] replacements.
[1:32:05] The second paragraph of pure
[1:32:10] government talks about
[1:32:14] the contract going from 8
[1:32:14] million to 38 million and then
[1:32:18] being adjusted in 2022 to an
[1:32:19] unspecified amount And then we
[1:32:22] have JULY 14th where it went to
[1:32:23] $103 million.
[1:32:30] Now there's another $3 million
[1:32:30] to $106 million.
[1:32:31] We have to have an explanation.
[1:32:35] You MAY know more about this
[1:32:36] than members of the public but
[1:32:39] this is an expenditure related
[1:32:44] to the trash fee that
[1:32:45] the public wants to understand
[1:32:49] How could we be spending $106
[1:32:53] million Again the item backups
[1:32:58] as necessary for repairs and
[1:32:59] maintenance of containers.
[1:32:59] Nowhere does it say that it
[1:33:02] involves the replacement of
[1:33:07] the containers.
[1:33:08] Thank you for doing what you
[1:33:12] can to assure more public
[1:33:13] discussion on this very
[1:33:17] important item.
[1:33:21] Just very briefly on item 112
[1:33:22] the settlement this is another
[1:33:26] example of the millions of
[1:33:26] dollars that we are paying
[1:33:27] every week.
[1:33:31] It seems like certainly every
[1:33:31] month for questionable
[1:33:32] settlements.
[1:33:36] I'm not saying in any way that
[1:33:37] this case shouldn't have been
[1:33:38] settled but it looks like it
[1:33:40] went on for three years with
[1:33:40] two separate lawsuits.
[1:33:45] There must be a better way to
[1:33:49] both settle on on better terms
[1:33:49] earlier perhaps and more
[1:33:54] importantly to avoid these
[1:33:55] lawsuits.
[1:33:55] I'll use my last moment to
[1:34:00] please urge you to discuss item
[1:34:03] s five over four.
[1:34:04] My colleague Jeff Tudor wrote a
[1:34:08] very important note to you
[1:34:12] about concerns regarding
[1:34:13] the construction defect change
[1:34:16] on sb 1903.
[1:34:21] Please do not approve today's
[1:34:22] item if you include sb 1903
[1:34:26] please read about Please read
[1:34:27] Jeff's note to you about
[1:34:31] suggested changes to
[1:34:35] the wording of sb 1903 before
[1:34:36] you endorse it.
[1:34:40] Do not endorse as a package
[1:34:40] please.
[1:34:41] Thank you very much for your
[1:34:43] time.
[1:34:43] >> Thank you.
[1:34:48] Blair Beekman You're speaking
[1:34:51] on items as final two as 503
[1:34:52] and 110.
[1:34:57] Hi Beekman I'm going to
[1:34:57] substitute item 54 110 with
[1:35:01] the administrative update
[1:35:02] Parking meter zoning boundary
[1:35:02] descriptions for Uptown and
[1:35:06] Midtown Mid-City communities um
[1:35:07] with our parking things that
[1:35:11] we're working on at this time,
[1:35:12] is it possible to be
[1:35:13] considering again the ideas of
[1:35:13] parking commissions?
[1:35:16] I think it was a good way to
[1:35:17] create community and democracy
[1:35:21] and there was some really
[1:35:21] undemocratic ideas in taking
[1:35:22] those concepts away.
[1:35:26] The past year in order to
[1:35:26] consolidate your new parking
[1:35:27] ideas.
[1:35:31] Now that we're returning to all
[1:35:31] forms, can we return to
[1:35:32] the parking commission process
[1:35:35] and what that offered community
[1:35:36] or at least for it to have a
[1:35:37] place in our future We can have
[1:35:40] some sort of, you know, working
[1:35:41] within Chamber of commerce
[1:35:42] groups you know, local business
[1:35:45] associations or anything you
[1:35:46] know, to get that sort of
[1:35:47] process uh, a democratic
[1:35:50] process Again good luck in
[1:35:51] the efforts I wanted to speak
[1:35:55] to item as 503 which is
[1:35:59] the buyer park parking a
[1:36:00] funding for issues.
[1:36:00] Our Park Department has an
[1:36:04] awesome job to working on to a
[1:36:05] degree on tech and
[1:36:09] accountability and that our
[1:36:10] data is going to be safe,
[1:36:11] secure and that we're doing
[1:36:15] best practices.
[1:36:15] Um they made pretty strong
[1:36:16] demands of federal agencies
[1:36:19] that we're working on good
[1:36:19] terms and I hope we can
[1:36:20] continue those sort of efforts
[1:36:23] for ourselves.
[1:36:24] I hope the park by our park
[1:36:28] funding ideas can connect to
[1:36:29] the housing development that's
[1:36:33] planned for the same area Will
[1:36:34] they be working in conjunction?
[1:36:34] Should they be working in
[1:36:37] conjunction there should be
[1:36:38] really obviously important
[1:36:39] concepts of environmental
[1:36:47] concerns and efforts and let's
[1:36:47] not forget the importance of
[1:36:48] environmental concerns with our
[1:36:52] land issues.
[1:36:52] We have to note the history of
[1:36:56] our land issues as well.
[1:36:57] Uh, good luck how we do all of
[1:36:58] that with with the prior park
[1:37:01] and the animal health ideas to
[1:37:02] conclude with the reappointment
[1:37:06] to the Commission on Police
[1:37:06] practices.
[1:37:07] I really wanted to say
[1:37:10] yesterday I hope that
[1:37:11] the Police Commission on Police
[1:37:15] Practices will be reviewing can
[1:37:16] have an open public process on
[1:37:17] the future of hope for use in
[1:37:20] real time in San Diego.
[1:37:20] That has to be a public
[1:37:21] conversation in our future.
[1:37:24] Good luck how it can be
[1:37:25] accessible.
[1:37:26] Good luck in your efforts to
[1:37:29] try to make that accessible.
[1:37:30] I hope you can do that as
[1:37:30] councilperson.
[1:37:31] And the other comment that I
[1:37:34] think the aclu person who
[1:37:39] applied for a job on
[1:37:39] the commission was not elected
[1:37:44] and I thought that I thought
[1:37:44] that a bit disconcerting.
[1:37:49] I hope we do not fear having
[1:37:50] open conversations in
[1:37:53] the public eye and here in
[1:37:54] the following months you know
[1:37:54] what I'm trying to do a best
[1:37:55] practices.
[1:37:55] >> Thank you.
[1:37:56] Thank you.
[1:37:59] I started the five minutes I'm
[1:38:00] we're going to those
[1:38:01] participating remotely.
[1:38:01] We currently have three people
[1:38:03] in the queue starting with
[1:38:04] Zachary.
[1:38:04] If you can please unmute and
[1:38:05] let me know which item or items
[1:38:09] you wish to speak to.
[1:38:13] Zachary DeFazio Farrow I can't
[1:38:14] unmute for you.
[1:38:14] There you go.
[1:38:14] Hello.
[1:38:17] It's 504.
[1:38:17] Please proceed.
[1:38:21] You have one minute.
[1:38:21] Okay.
[1:38:21] Good morning.
[1:38:22] Council PRESIDENT Members of
[1:38:27] the Council My name is DR.
[1:38:28] Fazio and the Treasurer of
[1:38:28] the Democrats of Seminole
[1:38:30] County.
[1:38:31] I'm speaking in support of item
[1:38:32] as far as 504 the resolution
[1:38:35] backing Assembly bills 19 zero
[1:38:39] 314 zero six and 70 in 1834 San
[1:38:39] Diego is the fifth most
[1:38:40] expensive metro area in
[1:38:44] the country to buy a home and
[1:38:45] only about 70% of local
[1:38:46] households can afford a medium
[1:38:49] priced home here.
[1:38:50] >> This package addresses real
[1:38:50] barriers to homeownership
[1:38:54] reducing costs of construction
[1:38:54] defect litigation, lowering
[1:38:55] financing risk for builders and
[1:38:58] easing permitting for missing
[1:38:58] middle housing duplexes,
[1:38:59] townhomes and condos.
[1:39:03] I want to thank Council
[1:39:03] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee for
[1:39:04] introducing this resolution and
[1:39:05] steering committee.
[1:39:08] >> We urge the Council to adopt
[1:39:08] s504 as presented on today's
[1:39:13] consent agenda I sent
[1:39:13] Sacramento a clear message that
[1:39:14] San Diego supports expanding
[1:39:18] homeownership.
[1:39:18] >> Thank you.
[1:39:19] Thank you.
[1:39:19] Next is Lori Saldana.
[1:39:23] If you can please unmute Morris
[1:39:28] Although I knew I can move for
[1:39:28] you but if you can unmute and
[1:39:29] let me know which item or items
[1:39:32] you wish to speak to.
[1:39:33] My apologies please On mute.
[1:39:33] Hello.
[1:39:37] Yes, hi.
[1:39:37] Yes Hi there.
[1:39:43] Yes I'd like to see an item 112
[1:39:43] 113 and 114.
[1:39:44] >> Please proceed.
[1:39:49] You'll have three minutes.
[1:39:49] Thank you.
[1:39:50] So item 112 it was already
[1:39:53] mentioned that these types of
[1:39:54] discrimination cases they are
[1:39:58] costly on a financial level but
[1:40:04] also costly capabilities fairly
[1:40:08] poor but represent the case
[1:40:08] employment opportunities I
[1:40:12] throughout San Diego there are
[1:40:13] many not only within the city
[1:40:17] but there are many contracts
[1:40:18] given to companies that when
[1:40:22] you review their employment
[1:40:23] reports they clearly are not
[1:40:28] meeting the level of diversity
[1:40:28] that the city has envisioned
[1:40:32] when they step forward certain
[1:40:32] goals and certain programs
[1:40:36] Sometimes it's costly as in
[1:40:37] this case on a legal settlement
[1:40:38] but other times it is costly
[1:40:41] because frankly people don't
[1:40:42] see themselves represented.
[1:40:46] Job sites where contractors are
[1:40:47] doing work that's supposed to
[1:40:47] be beneficial to everyone In
[1:40:51] San Diego And I went there 13
[1:40:52] the settlement about an
[1:40:55] accident on a sidewalk in these
[1:40:55] cases used to be relatively
[1:40:56] rare there I got to sit there
[1:41:00] increasing I've mentioned in
[1:41:00] the past the incident with a
[1:41:01] member of my own family who
[1:41:04] tripped over City Hall and
[1:41:05] the injuries resulted in her
[1:41:09] death a few months later It's
[1:41:10] it is not only again costly in
[1:41:10] terms of the settlements that
[1:41:15] are being paid but it's costly
[1:41:15] to the people that are
[1:41:16] supportive of those who are
[1:41:19] injured And these trips involve
[1:41:19] and related to this area,
[1:41:23] Pacific Beach.
[1:41:24] I will be speaking soon
[1:41:25] regarding what is happening in
[1:41:28] our coastal communities.
[1:41:29] I was born and raised in San
[1:41:29] Diego.
[1:41:30] I have seen the changes in our
[1:41:33] neighborhoods.
[1:41:34] I I've lived in Pacific Beach
[1:41:35] and other coastal communities
[1:41:38] and I believe these these
[1:41:38] incidents tripping and falling
[1:41:39] and other accidents are going
[1:41:43] to increase very quickly And
[1:41:43] I'll explain why during
[1:41:47] the public comment and then
[1:41:48] finally the reappointment to
[1:41:48] the Commission on Police
[1:41:52] Practices as others have
[1:41:52] mentioned, this commission was
[1:41:57] created following just to give
[1:41:58] us a brief history of 15 years
[1:42:01] ago there was an activity right
[1:42:02] outside this building Occupy
[1:42:06] San Diego and people were
[1:42:07] camping overnight and in
[1:42:07] the early morning hours police
[1:42:11] raided the encampment and ended
[1:42:16] up putting people into
[1:42:16] basically locking them down in
[1:42:20] vehicles And it was
[1:42:20] dehumanizing.
[1:42:25] It was frightening And some of
[1:42:26] the people that experienced
[1:42:30] this worked very hard for many
[1:42:30] years to get this commission
[1:42:31] established.
[1:42:34] The fact that it has taken this
[1:42:35] it continues to take months and
[1:42:39] years to establish and fully
[1:42:40] operate.
[1:42:40] This commission does not speak
[1:42:45] well of police practices in San
[1:42:45] Diego and I encourage you to
[1:42:46] manage this as quickly as you
[1:42:46] can.
[1:42:50] Thank you.
[1:42:50] Thank you.
[1:42:51] Next is 8700.
[1:42:52] If you can please unmute and
[1:42:55] let me know which item or items
[1:42:55] you wish to speak to.
[1:43:03] Yes I have eight items 501 50
[1:43:07] (510)010-1102 110 504 and 511
[1:43:08] please.
[1:43:08] Thank you.
[1:43:11] You'll have three minutes.
[1:43:12] I'll also note that the five
[1:43:12] minute timer did conclude there
[1:43:13] are three people in the queue
[1:43:16] No additional speakers will be
[1:43:16] taken.
[1:43:17] >> Please proceed Missing out
[1:43:21] of Thank you five one Yes to
[1:43:25] the electronic filing system
[1:43:25] for the office of the City
[1:43:29] Clerk This will help keep
[1:43:30] the city clerks team and their
[1:43:34] stellar work stellar work
[1:43:35] moving forward for all
[1:43:39] the people of San Diego All 55
[1:43:43] I am on the fence three Yes or
[1:43:47] no On its first amend to
[1:43:47] the contract with Evernorth
[1:43:51] Care Solutions 185 and then
[1:43:54] admin employees 42 white male 1
[1:43:55] or 3 white female
[1:43:59] underrepresented Asian Asian in
[1:44:00] management and financial
[1:44:04] African-American and Asian in
[1:44:05] sales plus also due to some of
[1:44:09] the some parts of the staff
[1:44:10] report is too long for me to
[1:44:11] say them but I'm a yes or no on
[1:44:11] that.
[1:44:15] Thank you very much.
[1:44:18] One 100 yes to the contract for
[1:44:19] as needed Independent legal
[1:44:23] counsel for the Office of
[1:44:23] the City Auditor and the Audit
[1:44:24] Committee.
[1:44:28] That's a big yes 101 combined
[1:44:33] with 102 Yes And both for
[1:44:34] chemicals to the North City
[1:44:38] Pure water facility.
[1:44:39] Have we finally got a handle on
[1:44:43] pricing 110 Yes.
[1:44:47] Two utilities undergrounding
[1:44:52] program a question what percent
[1:44:52] of collaboration is happening
[1:44:56] with sdg and the these
[1:44:57] processes?
[1:44:57] And another question what
[1:45:01] percentage is being taking
[1:45:02] place for outreach with
[1:45:07] the communities And if dg And
[1:45:07] each of these processes I'm
[1:45:11] looking for improvement in both
[1:45:12] areas Thank you Bible for I am
[1:45:16] on the fence yes and no On
[1:45:17] supporting the four assembly
[1:45:21] bills aimed at expanding home
[1:45:21] ownership as a long term
[1:45:25] apartment renter I need to get
[1:45:26] right to the bones.
[1:45:30] These bills and to evaluate
[1:45:35] their clear intentions.
[1:45:36] I'm all for them.
[1:45:36] Thank you.
[1:45:39] And lastly by 11 yes to 15
[1:45:40] apartments I'm still not clear
[1:45:44] on the history of
[1:45:44] the amendments and so forth yet
[1:45:48] I have fond memories of working
[1:45:53] on this project to fruition in
[1:45:54] 2009 with cdc The increase in
[1:45:58] their provision and love to
[1:45:58] all.
[1:45:59] >> Thank you.
[1:46:00] Judy Strang If you can please
[1:46:03] unmute Judy Sorry I can't I'm
[1:46:07] here for you.
[1:46:08] >> I will need to move on.
[1:46:08] There you go.
[1:46:12] Sorry I'm at my work site and
[1:46:12] that's always a little
[1:46:13] challenging.
[1:46:16] I'd like to speak to items 55
[1:46:23] 100 and 109I have a question
[1:46:24] about 109 and that has to do
[1:46:25] with the installation of
[1:46:28] fencing Because of
[1:46:29] the conversation yesterday I
[1:46:30] decided to take a deep dive and
[1:46:33] those it those items today that
[1:46:34] had to do with contracts and if
[1:46:38] I understand in this correctly
[1:46:38] it looks to me like
[1:46:42] the contract for fencing is
[1:46:47] increasing from $3 million to
[1:46:47] 8,000,900.
[1:46:48] I tried as I examined
[1:46:52] the finances behind this to
[1:46:52] understand what would have
[1:46:53] happened to create that sort of
[1:46:57] increase.
[1:46:58] I must admit maybe I didn't
[1:46:58] read carefully and I couldn't
[1:47:01] find the answers I, I was
[1:47:02] looking for it but my golly
[1:47:07] that $6 million increase I
[1:47:11] having discussing what we would
[1:47:12] like to spend our money on not
[1:47:13] the least of which are
[1:47:15] restrooms that was startling
[1:47:20] Then I'd like to speak next to
[1:47:21] item 100.
[1:47:21] Yes.
[1:47:21] Oh my gosh.
[1:47:22] Yes.
[1:47:25] Let's get our idea Any
[1:47:26] individual or individualized
[1:47:30] council that they would need
[1:47:31] that would make their services
[1:47:31] easier for them to do.
[1:47:35] It is a job that the public
[1:47:36] greatly appreciate and values
[1:47:36] their opinion and anything that
[1:47:40] makes their job easier.
[1:47:41] And finally I especially wanted
[1:47:45] to address item 55 about
[1:47:46] something I know quite a bit
[1:47:46] about employee assisted
[1:47:50] progress.
[1:47:51] I have a high regard for those
[1:47:54] enterprises those businesses
[1:47:55] which the city certainly is
[1:47:55] that realize the importance of
[1:47:59] a good employee assistance
[1:48:04] program And as your staff
[1:48:04] report mentions this very
[1:48:09] important behavioral health
[1:48:10] resource that the erp,
[1:48:13] the employment Assistance
[1:48:14] program provides to your
[1:48:18] employees is essential for
[1:48:19] their personal and workplace
[1:48:19] challenges.
[1:48:24] It often includes mental health
[1:48:24] challenges.
[1:48:25] This is not your staff report.
[1:48:25] This is me having worked on
[1:48:28] these programs The type of
[1:48:29] mental health problems that
[1:48:33] people in your business might
[1:48:34] have and their alcohol,
[1:48:37] tobacco, marijuana drug
[1:48:38] problems that they have really
[1:48:38] create an issue to
[1:48:39] the workplace.
[1:48:42] When I first entered this field
[1:48:43] 40 years ago, one of the first
[1:48:46] things I was involved with is
[1:48:47] bringing erp programs to
[1:48:48] businesses And one of
[1:48:52] the things that we learned from
[1:48:53] those who had gone before is
[1:48:53] the last thing that people who
[1:48:57] have drug problems let loose of
[1:48:58] is their job because of course
[1:49:02] it's important for them to have
[1:49:02] a source of funding for their
[1:49:03] alcohol and drug use.
[1:49:06] So this is the place if we're
[1:49:07] going to help people at their
[1:49:08] workplace, if we can do it then
[1:49:11] it is money well spent.
[1:49:12] >> Thank you.
[1:49:12] Thank you, Tony.
[1:49:13] Your final speaker if you can
[1:49:17] please unmute and let me know
[1:49:18] which item or items you wish to
[1:49:21] speak to.
[1:49:21] Yes.
[1:49:22] Can you hear me?
[1:49:22] Yes.
[1:49:22] Yes.
[1:49:26] I would like to speak to item
[1:49:26] 56.
[1:49:30] I would like to speak to item
[1:49:31] 100.
[1:49:35] I would like to speak to item
[1:49:39] control Sorry item 112 I
[1:49:45] believe it is So those two yet
[1:49:48] Those three okay Sorry.
[1:49:49] >> Three minutes Please
[1:49:49] proceed.
[1:49:52] Thank you.
[1:49:53] First I'll start by saying I'm
[1:49:57] in big support of item GOD this
[1:50:03] is item 100 and in favor of
[1:50:07] the eBay getting as much
[1:50:07] support as possible with
[1:50:08] whatever council they MAY need
[1:50:24] and then moving on to item item
[1:50:28] 112 a $3.1 million settlement
[1:50:33] with the city of San Diego due
[1:50:38] to a discrimination case with
[1:50:43] the San Diego Police Department
[1:50:43] .
[1:50:48] I I've spoken about this issue
[1:50:48] so many times.
[1:50:49] I've come to city council about
[1:50:52] this issue so many times but I
[1:50:53] haven't seen the tone of
[1:50:54] the five people that voted for
[1:50:57] Flock of the five people that
[1:50:58] continually vote in favor of
[1:51:02] giving sd pd all the toys and
[1:51:02] all of the budget increases
[1:51:03] that they ask for.
[1:51:07] I never see the tone of any of
[1:51:08] your change.
[1:51:08] I never see you asking them
[1:51:12] the critical questions.
[1:51:12] I never see any of these
[1:51:13] lawsuits change your tone in
[1:51:17] terms of greater accountability
[1:51:18] that you should be asking from
[1:51:22] them and yesterday in
[1:51:23] the appointment of the people
[1:51:23] to the Commission on Police
[1:51:27] Practices, I'm glad that all
[1:51:27] those people were appointed But
[1:51:28] some of the questions that you
[1:51:32] asked were really, really
[1:51:33] reflective of some of your
[1:51:37] positions and your lack your
[1:51:42] own personal lack of
[1:51:42] objectivity in assessing police
[1:51:43] accountability.
[1:51:45] It seems like you're more
[1:51:57] concerned with people having a
[1:51:58] a view that's favorable that sd
[1:52:02] pd over people holding them
[1:52:03] accountable over the only
[1:52:03] regulatory body that we have
[1:52:06] that's responsible for holding
[1:52:07] them directly accountable.
[1:52:08] It seems like y'all are more
[1:52:12] interested in having allies on
[1:52:16] cp that won't recommend changes
[1:52:17] that c pd won't even make
[1:52:21] because the cp is totally
[1:52:22] disempowered from being able to
[1:52:22] make these changes.
[1:52:25] So it's all just a dog and pony
[1:52:26] show anyway.
[1:52:26] It's all just a charade anyway
[1:52:30] and it's super concerning that
[1:52:31] because this is coming out of
[1:52:35] the public liability d fund
[1:52:36] y'all don't seem to care.
[1:52:40] Your d doesn't change any of
[1:52:41] your tones and I don't know
[1:52:42] what it will take for you to
[1:52:45] realize that this is our money
[1:52:46] and we are in a budget crisis
[1:52:50] and we can't afford grocery yet
[1:52:51] We're continually paying these
[1:52:51] massive settlements for steep
[1:52:55] needs.
[1:52:55] I'm sorry your time has
[1:52:56] concluded.
[1:52:58] If you raised your hand
[1:52:59] the five minute timer had
[1:52:59] already concluded and that does
[1:53:00] conclude public comment on
[1:53:03] the consent agenda.
[1:53:03] >> Thank you, Council
[1:53:04] PRESIDENT.
[1:53:04] All right.
[1:53:05] Thank you, City Clerk.
[1:53:06] With that I'll turn to my
[1:53:08] colleagues for comments,
[1:53:09] questions and entertain a
[1:53:09] motion and we'll start with
[1:53:13] Councilmember Moreno.
[1:53:13] >> Thank you.
[1:53:14] I have comments on item 100 a
[1:53:18] request for the approval of a
[1:53:19] contract between the city of
[1:53:23] San Diego and Rene Public Law
[1:53:24] Group to provide as needed
[1:53:28] independent legal counsel for
[1:53:29] the Office of the City Auditor
[1:53:33] and the Audit Committee measure
[1:53:37] a asked the citizens of San
[1:53:38] Diego for a charter amendment
[1:53:42] authorizing the City auditor
[1:53:43] and the audit committee to use
[1:53:43] outside legal counsel instead
[1:53:47] of our elected city attorney.
[1:53:52] I signed the ballot argument in
[1:53:57] favor of the measure and I was
[1:54:00] very happy to see that 67.24%
[1:54:01] of voters agreed with this
[1:54:01] measure.
[1:54:06] So I want to start off by
[1:54:06] thanking the audit Committee ad
[1:54:07] hoc subcommittee for
[1:54:11] the implement ation of Measure
[1:54:12] a And I also want to take this
[1:54:15] opportunity to thank City
[1:54:16] attorney Heather Ferber for not
[1:54:20] standing in between the will of
[1:54:20] the voters.
[1:54:21] This has been a very long time
[1:54:25] coming and I'm glad to see that
[1:54:26] we are reaching this point.
[1:54:26] This represents another
[1:54:30] important tool for the city
[1:54:30] auditor to ensure that taxpayer
[1:54:34] funds are being used
[1:54:35] responsibly and also
[1:54:35] transparently.
[1:54:39] I also do want to recognize and
[1:54:40] extend my gratitude to public
[1:54:41] committee members.
[1:54:45] Halpern And Maffia for their
[1:54:45] outstanding work in helping
[1:54:46] guide this effort.
[1:54:49] Thanks to that collaborative
[1:54:50] effort, we now have a contract
[1:54:51] that represent that reflects
[1:54:55] the commitment made to
[1:54:55] the voters the economic
[1:54:56] statement presented to voters
[1:55:00] when they considered Measure a
[1:55:00] is consistent with the contract
[1:55:04] amount before us today and this
[1:55:04] independent legal Council is
[1:55:05] important because the city
[1:55:09] attorney represents
[1:55:10] the departments that the city
[1:55:13] auditor is auditing So
[1:55:14] ultimately this helps
[1:55:15] the mission of the city auditor
[1:55:15] to advance open and accountable
[1:55:19] government through independent
[1:55:19] objective and accurate audits
[1:55:24] and investigations that seek to
[1:55:24] improve the efficiency,
[1:55:25] effectiveness and equity of
[1:55:29] city government.
[1:55:32] I also have comments on item as
[1:55:33] 5o3I want to take this
[1:55:33] opportunity to thank Council
[1:55:37] member Campbell for bringing
[1:55:38] this item forward and for
[1:55:38] keeping the Buyer park
[1:55:41] development project in mind
[1:55:42] while serving on the San Diego
[1:55:47] River River Conservancy Board.
[1:55:48] If awarded this grant funding
[1:55:51] would fully fund Phase two
[1:55:51] Buyer Park a long anticipated
[1:55:52] project that was promised to
[1:55:56] the San Isidro community by
[1:55:57] the city of San Diego decades
[1:56:00] ago fully funding Phase two is
[1:56:01] a critical step towards turning
[1:56:05] that longstanding promise into
[1:56:05] a tangible reality for our
[1:56:06] community.
[1:56:09] This represents and this
[1:56:10] project represents more than
[1:56:11] just park improvements.
[1:56:14] It represents long overdue
[1:56:15] investment in San Ysidro
[1:56:19] families, youth and residents
[1:56:20] who deserve access to quality
[1:56:20] public space.
[1:56:21] So I'm extremely proud to
[1:56:24] support this item and look
[1:56:25] forward to seeing my support
[1:56:28] continue moving forward and
[1:56:29] with that Council PRESIDENT I'm
[1:56:30] happy to make a motion to
[1:56:30] accept the consent agenda
[1:56:35] before us today.
[1:56:35] All right.
[1:56:36] Thank you.
[1:56:36] Council members we have motion
[1:56:37] by Councilmember Moreno to move
[1:56:40] the staff recommendation on
[1:56:40] the consent items and we'll go
[1:56:43] next to council member on Open
[1:56:44] .
[1:56:44] Thank you very much And I'm
[1:56:47] going to have questions on item
[1:56:48] 52 for both environmental
[1:56:49] services and purchasing
[1:56:49] contracting.
[1:56:51] So hopefully there are folks
[1:56:56] here who can answer it.
[1:56:57] I do have a question for
[1:57:00] the city attorney as well as an
[1:57:01] item as 509 which is
[1:57:02] the settlement by voting for
[1:57:05] the settlement that doesn't
[1:57:06] lock us into voting for a
[1:57:07] certain amount of the water
[1:57:10] rate going forward.
[1:57:11] It will like we do have to do a
[1:57:12] singular water rate because of
[1:57:15] the court decision but we don't
[1:57:16] have to set an amount in this
[1:57:16] settlement.
[1:57:20] Correct That as 509 was pulled
[1:57:20] from the consent agenda.
[1:57:21] So I'm happy to discuss with
[1:57:24] you.
[1:57:24] Okay.
[1:57:25] All right.
[1:57:25] Thank you.
[1:57:25] Sorry about that.
[1:57:28] Okay then I'm question items
[1:57:29] five vote two please.
[1:57:32] I'm sorry Item 52 are the last
[1:57:43] day I was there I was there.
[1:57:43] >> Good morning.
[1:57:44] Customer Jeremy Bauer
[1:57:44] Governmental Services.
[1:57:46] Thank you.
[1:57:47] So this is a $3 million
[1:57:48] extension to the contract to
[1:57:52] allow procurement of rfid
[1:57:52] reader hardware and software
[1:57:56] which enables the city to
[1:57:57] provide service protection to
[1:57:57] its customers.
[1:58:02] I thought that we I I'm wholly
[1:58:02] against the city getting
[1:58:03] neutrality and I voted no on
[1:58:06] this every single time but I've
[1:58:06] lost on this.
[1:58:07] So now the new trash cans are
[1:58:07] here.
[1:58:11] I thought the whole reason that
[1:58:12] we were told we had to do
[1:58:13] the new trash cans was because
[1:58:17] they'd have rfid chips in them
[1:58:17] and then we could read them.
[1:58:18] So why is it that now we need
[1:58:21] an additional $3 million to
[1:58:21] read the rfid trips?
[1:58:22] Wasn't that why was that part
[1:58:25] of the original negotiation?
[1:58:26] >> Great question.
[1:58:26] So two and for the opportunity
[1:58:30] to clarify the primary reason
[1:58:31] for the new containers is
[1:58:32] customer verification to
[1:58:32] validate that we're only
[1:58:36] providing service to customers
[1:58:36] that are city customers and
[1:58:37] that we're providing service
[1:58:41] level that they're paying for.
[1:58:42] This is because the fee is
[1:58:43] based it's a function of
[1:58:43] the size of the trash container
[1:58:46] and how many total containers
[1:58:47] they have.
[1:58:47] And recognizing that most of
[1:58:48] the containers that were
[1:58:51] deployed in the past were well
[1:58:51] past their useful life,
[1:58:52] the city weighed doing a manual
[1:58:56] audit of what was out in
[1:58:57] the field versus replacing and
[1:58:57] we did determine that replacing
[1:59:01] them was the most effective and
[1:59:02] efficient way to validate
[1:59:02] service levels.
[1:59:06] With that said to your question
[1:59:07] ,we did communicate to
[1:59:08] the public that all of the new
[1:59:08] containers come with rfid
[1:59:12] reader rfid is embedded in them
[1:59:13] and that our plan would be to
[1:59:13] test technology for
[1:59:14] the hardware that would be
[1:59:17] attached to the trucks.
[1:59:18] And then going forward would
[1:59:19] allow us to collect service
[1:59:22] level information to allow for
[1:59:23] continuous improvement over
[1:59:23] time.
[1:59:24] Also allow us if we detect a
[1:59:28] container outside of where it's
[1:59:29] supposed to be we could get it
[1:59:32] back to where it belongs.
[1:59:33] >> And part of why we wanted to
[1:59:34] do a pilot first was before
[1:59:38] spending the money to buy
[1:59:39] the hardware to attach
[1:59:39] the trucks.
[1:59:41] It was important to us to test
[1:59:42] the technology first and sure
[1:59:43] it's working before making that
[1:59:43] that significant investment in
[1:59:48] hardware for the trucks.
[1:59:49] >> Did we competitively bid
[1:59:49] the hardware for the trucks?
[1:59:51] We did one or the other pilot
[1:59:52] with another firm right where
[1:59:57] the Detectability rate was not
[1:59:58] high enough for our business
[1:59:58] needs and also the amount of
[2:00:04] staff time to load the data and
[2:00:04] the versatility of
[2:00:08] the technology As a result of
[2:00:09] doing the pilot we determined
[2:00:09] that it wasn't going to meet
[2:00:10] our needs, that hardware was
[2:00:13] able to be returned without
[2:00:14] without costs.
[2:00:15] That was part of what was
[2:00:15] desirable about that initial
[2:00:19] pilot With this new pilot
[2:00:19] the pilot itself should cost
[2:00:20] about $30,000 and if the pilot
[2:00:25] is successful only if and only
[2:00:26] at that point would we spend
[2:00:30] the 3 million to buy the at
[2:00:30] about 2 million actually to buy
[2:00:31] the hardware And then
[2:00:32] the latter million is for
[2:00:32] the software needs for
[2:00:36] the remainder of the at
[2:00:37] the period the fifth period
[2:00:40] through fiscal year 29.
[2:00:41] So then why did we pick these
[2:00:42] two companies as a part of a
[2:00:46] competitive bid like we usually
[2:00:46] do?
[2:00:47] >> How how did this work?
[2:00:50] We have an existing contract
[2:00:51] with Varig for the container
[2:00:52] pavilion repair and replacement
[2:00:56] and leveraging that We already
[2:00:57] had that contract recognizing
[2:00:57] that that's the same firm that
[2:01:02] makes the containers with
[2:01:02] the rfid and them We anticipate
[2:01:07] that the hardware that the firm
[2:01:08] makes should be successful in
[2:01:09] detecting containers.
[2:01:12] >> We didn't at first because
[2:01:13] you said you met with another
[2:01:13] company previously.
[2:01:14] >> That's right.
[2:01:14] We had a we also had an
[2:01:18] existing contract with Radware
[2:01:18] And so being able to leverage
[2:01:19] that existing contract through
[2:01:23] this when the very contract was
[2:01:24] presented last last JULY for
[2:01:28] the container rollout we
[2:01:29] presented that this contract
[2:01:30] would be for the purposes of
[2:01:30] rolling out the new containers
[2:01:34] and that we would continue to
[2:01:35] look into what's what's next.
[2:01:36] And as part of that exercise we
[2:01:41] did determine that the existing
[2:01:42] contract with Varig allowed for
[2:01:42] that.
[2:01:42] The scope of that contract
[2:01:47] allowed for provision of rfid
[2:01:47] hardware And so we determined
[2:01:48] that that would be an efficient
[2:01:53] way of lifting that existing
[2:01:53] contract with the city but it
[2:01:54] would require adding capacity
[2:01:58] to the contract to fund for
[2:01:59] the hardware purchase.
[2:01:59] >> Got it.
[2:02:00] So we have not done a
[2:02:01] competitive bid to see what
[2:02:06] would be the cheapest.
[2:02:07] We're just kind of picking
[2:02:07] contracts before I answer
[2:02:08] customer x I want to confirm
[2:02:15] with you know it's part of
[2:02:15] the equipment procurement
[2:02:16] agreement which was
[2:02:20] competitively bid That includes
[2:02:21] not only carts but the rfid
[2:02:22] technology as well and cost
[2:02:22] number this is Chase.
[2:02:23] >> We have an intern program
[2:02:25] manager with our program Now
[2:02:26] I'm reading all the staff
[2:02:30] reports The original contract
[2:02:31] was in 2016 and it was for
[2:02:31] trash containers.
[2:02:32] It wasn't competitively bid for
[2:02:36] this new rfid software.
[2:02:37] We just checked it on
[2:02:38] the original cooperate
[2:02:38] procurement agreement from
[2:02:42] the Omni partnership included
[2:02:43] not only carts but the rfid
[2:02:44] technology as well which was
[2:02:49] completely bid but it's used
[2:02:50] through multiple municipalities
[2:02:50] across the country.
[2:02:51] Where does it say that in a
[2:02:55] contract on the original a
[2:02:56] contract there is services that
[2:03:01] specify that rfid technology as
[2:03:01] part of this corporate
[2:03:02] procuring agreement for 2016?
[2:03:02] Correct?
[2:03:03] Okay.
[2:03:04] >> That's not the back of
[2:03:10] materials.
[2:03:11] >> The only thing we purchased
[2:03:12] anywhere I think with you about
[2:03:17] it we rejected a contract
[2:03:17] yesterday because it wasn't
[2:03:18] competitively bid and I don't
[2:03:19] see anywhere this was in
[2:03:23] Claudio's view came of I see in
[2:03:23] your report that we're
[2:03:24] accepting an extension to this
[2:03:28] contract because there's three
[2:03:29] what three criteria We have to
[2:03:34] be an emergency or
[2:03:34] extraordinary circumstances
[2:03:35] exist.
[2:03:35] So what are the emergency or
[2:03:36] extraordinary circumstances
[2:03:41] that exist that allow us to not
[2:03:41] do a bigger process and just
[2:03:42] take $3 million out of
[2:03:42] the contract?
[2:03:46] Okay.
[2:03:47] >> So just to backtrack thank
[2:03:48] you for the question.
[2:03:48] Councilmember Michael for
[2:03:52] Claudio Burkett, Director of
[2:03:53] Purchasing Contracting.
[2:03:53] Just to backtrack, cooperative
[2:03:54] procurement is allowable.
[2:03:58] What we did it has to meet our
[2:03:59] criteria that it was solicited.
[2:04:00] There were multiple bids and
[2:04:04] there was an award process that
[2:04:05] is in line with the city's own
[2:04:05] procurement process.
[2:04:10] So yes, this contract was
[2:04:11] awarded previously There is a
[2:04:12] provision that allows us to
[2:04:16] extend in the event that it is
[2:04:17] in the best interest of
[2:04:18] the city And if we go beyond
[2:04:22] that cooperative procurement
[2:04:23] period, the department has
[2:04:23] indicated that they have a very
[2:04:28] you need to get these trash
[2:04:29] cans rolled out very quickly
[2:04:29] because of the adoption of
[2:04:34] the ordinance and that is why
[2:04:34] we allow the extension of
[2:04:35] the cooperative contract that
[2:04:36] existed at that time.
[2:04:40] So it seems the need is created
[2:04:41] because we didn't do this
[2:04:41] earlier.
[2:04:46] You know, potentially I will
[2:04:46] let the department of.
[2:04:47] Okay got it.
[2:04:51] Of my last question is how do
[2:04:52] we know that we can afford any
[2:04:57] of this Because the city got
[2:04:58] into a settlement where we
[2:04:59] arbitrarily lowered the trash
[2:05:03] fee.
[2:05:04] >> Yes, good question,
[2:05:04] Councilmember.
[2:05:05] So the Postal Service model and
[2:05:10] the budget did include cost to
[2:05:10] provide the relative containers
[2:05:11] and included in the amount that
[2:05:12] is collected.
[2:05:15] That amount is sufficient to
[2:05:18] fund $3 million that the pilot
[2:05:25] okay.
[2:05:26] Okay.
[2:05:26] Thank you for answering
[2:05:27] questions.
[2:05:32] I continue to assert we did not
[2:05:33] need to spend now $63 million
[2:05:33] buying your trash cans for
[2:05:37] the entire city.
[2:05:37] So I would second the motion
[2:05:38] with a friendly amendment that
[2:05:39] we move to vote No.
[2:05:42] One Item 52 are the maker of
[2:05:47] the motion doesn't accept
[2:05:48] the friendly amendment.
[2:05:49] Okay then I will be seconding
[2:05:54] the and I'll be voting no one
[2:05:54] Item 52 and no one Item 112
[2:05:55] Thank you.
[2:05:55] Thank you COUNCILMAN.
[2:06:00] All right.
[2:06:01] Thank you all summer from a
[2:06:01] good line of questions or I
[2:06:02] will go next to Councilmember
[2:06:04] Eli Rivera.
[2:06:05] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[2:06:06] Let me start by seconding
[2:06:10] the motion and then I will
[2:06:11] express my appreciation to
[2:06:16] Michelle Eastman for stepping
[2:06:17] up to serve on
[2:06:18] the Accessibility Advisory
[2:06:18] Board.
[2:06:19] Michelle brings nearly a decade
[2:06:19] of disability advocacy,
[2:06:23] education and strategy into
[2:06:23] this role, including serving as
[2:06:24] the inaugural program manager
[2:06:25] of a disability resource hub at
[2:06:28] uc San Diego.
[2:06:29] So that experience will be of
[2:06:30] great benefit to the city and
[2:06:30] I'm very appreciative of
[2:06:37] Michelle's willingness to serve
[2:06:37] .
[2:06:44] >> I will move on to item 56
[2:06:49] just to express a quick
[2:06:50] appreciation to the city
[2:06:50] Attorney's office again for
[2:06:55] stepping up and helping enforce
[2:06:56] our living wage prevailing wage
[2:06:57] minimum wage ordinances
[2:07:01] The workers in this city
[2:07:02] hospitality workers in the city
[2:07:03] received a raise on JULY 1st.
[2:07:07] As a result of the actions of
[2:07:08] the Council and this will help
[2:07:09] us ensure that those workers
[2:07:14] get raise that they deserve.
[2:07:15] I want to thank city attorney
[2:07:19] for for going out with me and
[2:07:20] helping let some workers know
[2:07:20] that they are entitled to this
[2:07:24] raise now And obviously
[2:07:25] the work that will come after
[2:07:26] this to ensure the enforcement
[2:07:30] is done well and then lastly
[2:07:31] item 112 I wanted to speak to
[2:07:40] that briefly Last month
[2:07:40] Councilmember Foster as chair
[2:07:41] the Budget Committee initiated
[2:07:45] an important conversation about
[2:07:46] settlements that have involved
[2:07:52] the settlement across the city
[2:07:52] really but especially those
[2:07:53] involving the single police
[2:07:54] department at that point in
[2:07:58] time there was a $160 million
[2:07:59] over the last ten years that
[2:08:00] did not include the $3.1
[2:08:01] million that's been approved
[2:08:07] today.
[2:08:12] It did however, account for
[2:08:13] the $30 million for the death
[2:08:14] of Keno Wilson and $10 million
[2:08:14] for that to their bill.
[2:08:17] McCormack Those are those when
[2:08:21] combined with the $3.1 million
[2:08:27] here equates to almost $45
[2:08:27] million just from three
[2:08:28] lawsuits since DECEMBER of last
[2:08:28] year.
[2:08:33] That's an enormous amount of
[2:08:33] money within each of those
[2:08:39] dollar amounts Our stories that
[2:08:40] involve the death of two miners
[2:08:45] and a officer who alleged
[2:08:45] experiencing racism
[2:08:50] discrimination for over a
[2:08:51] decade.
[2:08:51] So important on multiple
[2:08:52] fronts.
[2:08:57] And so I am hoping that
[2:08:57] the initiation of
[2:08:58] the conversation that
[2:09:03] Councilmember Foster led helps
[2:09:04] us as a city and helps us to
[2:09:09] epd as a department wrestle
[2:09:10] with what can be done to not
[2:09:15] just avoid these costs but
[2:09:15] the even more important cost to
[2:09:18] public trust that each of these
[2:09:23] settlements represent.
[2:09:24] And lastly, it's yet another
[2:09:25] example of why I think it's
[2:09:30] important for us to to figure
[2:09:31] out between now and next budget
[2:09:32] year a way to account for these
[2:09:37] settlement costs and and and
[2:09:37] verdicts when they do go
[2:09:43] against the city in the budgets
[2:09:43] for the departments that are
[2:09:44] for the departments generally
[2:09:49] but specifically for city pd at
[2:09:50] this point you know I don't
[2:09:54] think it would be improper for
[2:09:55] us to take an average of what
[2:09:56] departments are paying out on
[2:10:00] an annual basis and include
[2:10:01] that in the department budget
[2:10:02] When we approve the budget each
[2:10:07] year to give us a more accurate
[2:10:08] reflection of what each
[2:10:08] department is spending and
[2:10:12] costing the city as we balance
[2:10:13] that with the services and
[2:10:14] resources that they're
[2:10:19] providing So I am again
[2:10:19] supportive of the consent
[2:10:20] agenda.
[2:10:24] I'm offering a second but I
[2:10:25] also do think that there's some
[2:10:25] stuff for us to wrestle with
[2:10:26] here.
[2:10:26] >> Thank you.
[2:10:30] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[2:10:30] Thank you, Council members.
[2:10:31] And we do have a motion by
[2:10:32] COUNCILMAN Randall to move
[2:10:32] the consent items to the second
[2:10:35] by council member Della Rivera
[2:10:36] and we will go to Councilmember
[2:10:36] Foster.
[2:10:37] Yes, Thank you, Council
[2:10:37] PRESIDENT.
[2:10:41] I'll try to keep my comments
[2:10:47] brief very quickly.
[2:10:47] I will be supporting
[2:10:48] the consent agenda except I
[2:10:53] would like to register a no
[2:10:54] vote for item 52 which I
[2:10:59] believe is associated with
[2:10:59] the trash item.
[2:11:00] I also would like to
[2:11:06] congratulate the reappointment
[2:11:07] of two of our Commissioners to
[2:11:07] the Commission on these
[2:11:12] practices Living and MR. Clovis
[2:11:13] on Red Just thank you for your
[2:11:13] continued service and your
[2:11:18] willingness to serve on what I
[2:11:19] think is one of the most
[2:11:19] critical boards and commissions
[2:11:20] that we have at the city of San
[2:11:23] Diego And it takes a tremendous
[2:11:30] commitment and dedication to to
[2:11:31] serve on that body By all means
[2:11:31] don't want to take away from
[2:11:36] anybody other commissions or
[2:11:37] boards and with this one is
[2:11:38] just very, very intensive and
[2:11:42] highly critical to what we do
[2:11:43] here at the city.
[2:11:47] Also I just want to speak to
[2:11:48] item 112 quickly.
[2:11:54] I've known Officer Art Scott
[2:11:54] for quite some time.
[2:12:00] He is someone that is was born
[2:12:01] and raised in District four,
[2:12:06] has a wonderful family his
[2:12:06] daughters that are doing great
[2:12:11] things Son in the military and
[2:12:12] just an all around what I like
[2:12:18] to say a good person.
[2:12:19] I think as Councilmember Rivera
[2:12:23] indicated brought forward
[2:12:24] the item last month because we
[2:12:28] need to improve it to see in
[2:12:35] cota I have to put this to
[2:12:40] the mayor's office and yourself
[2:12:41] but I'm looking for what steps
[2:12:46] are we taking to address
[2:12:47] the issues within the San Diego
[2:12:52] Police Department $116 Million
[2:12:57] in Misconduct As we see this
[2:12:58] item where we clearly have
[2:13:03] discriminatory practices we
[2:13:09] need to do better And if
[2:13:10] the mayor's office is not
[2:13:10] looking to make change I can't
[2:13:15] sit back and just look at how
[2:13:16] we are going to be complicit
[2:13:16] and continue this type of
[2:13:17] behavior, continue this type of
[2:13:21] culture.
[2:13:22] So I'll give you a moment if
[2:13:27] you'd like to let me know and
[2:13:28] I'd like to think my colleagues
[2:13:29] would be interested in how are
[2:13:33] we going to address this
[2:13:34] behavior in this culture within
[2:13:39] the police department.
[2:13:39] I appreciate the opportunity,
[2:13:40] Councilmember, and thank you
[2:13:41] for inviting us to your
[2:13:45] committee Last month to speak
[2:13:46] on just overall pd settlements
[2:13:47] and judgments And I think
[2:13:47] through that conversation we
[2:13:51] saw the necessary training and
[2:13:51] investment that department
[2:13:52] needs to be able to improve how
[2:13:53] we engage with the public.
[2:13:57] I don't know enough details on
[2:13:57] the case before you today to
[2:13:58] speak on what internal controls
[2:14:03] we can offer for conduct within
[2:14:04] the department.
[2:14:04] But again I appreciate
[2:14:05] the opportunity last month to
[2:14:09] really speak on the types of
[2:14:09] training, the type of continued
[2:14:10] monitoring of how we engage
[2:14:11] with the community to improve
[2:14:15] the police services that we
[2:14:16] provide so that we don't have
[2:14:16] the items that we've had in
[2:14:17] the past in DECEMBER and
[2:14:21] JANUARY with the horrific
[2:14:22] settlement that we had back
[2:14:22] then.
[2:14:26] So it's I think just a
[2:14:27] consistent effort that needs to
[2:14:28] be prioritized not only during
[2:14:33] budget season but year round
[2:14:34] And I think you have
[2:14:34] the support and belief within
[2:14:35] the department to execute on
[2:14:39] that So thank you.
[2:14:40] I want to thank you for that
[2:14:40] And I just cannot stress enough
[2:14:45] and I've said this police
[2:14:45] training is not new and we do
[2:14:46] do a considerable amount of
[2:14:51] training for our officers.
[2:14:51] I think we need to make sure
[2:14:52] that we look at
[2:14:53] the effectiveness of that
[2:14:53] training but also we need to
[2:14:57] make sure that we have
[2:14:58] accountability And I think
[2:14:59] that's a very, very important
[2:15:03] factor And something that we
[2:15:03] cannot set aside.
[2:15:04] So just as we talk about
[2:15:09] looking at our training,
[2:15:10] looking at de-escalation, we
[2:15:11] also need to look at
[2:15:11] accountability.
[2:15:15] And one thing I will say and I
[2:15:16] saw a statement that came out
[2:15:16] regarding the play that came
[2:15:21] out addressed to the Commission
[2:15:21] on Police practices
[2:15:26] Unacceptable, unacceptable.
[2:15:32] I understand why the play
[2:15:32] exists.
[2:15:33] >> But you know what Let's do
[2:15:38] right.
[2:15:39] The executive board needs to
[2:15:40] get in a role.
[2:15:40] They need to have a
[2:15:44] conversation and they need to
[2:15:44] help address the issues within
[2:15:45] the department.
[2:15:46] Don't look externally, don't
[2:15:50] blame the commission
[2:15:51] the misconduct that we're
[2:15:53] that's being discussed or a
[2:15:59] direct result of our officers
[2:16:00] And that's where that
[2:16:01] conversation needs to make sure
[2:16:02] where we keep that conversation
[2:16:06] and that goes back to
[2:16:06] accountability.
[2:16:07] And so it's time for the police
[2:16:12] to step up and do what's right
[2:16:12] .
[2:16:13] Quit throwing rocks, quit
[2:16:13] blaming other people.
[2:16:14] You're the ones that put
[2:16:17] the uniform on every day.
[2:16:18] You're the one that that goes
[2:16:19] out to be able to protect and
[2:16:19] serve.
[2:16:20] Let's protect and serve
[2:16:23] everyone.
[2:16:24] >> Let's make sure that we're
[2:16:29] making opportunities available
[2:16:30] to him.
[2:16:30] >> Three minutes.
[2:16:31] You're right.
[2:16:31] We're discussing a case on an
[2:16:32] officer, an African-American
[2:16:35] officer.
[2:16:36] I don't believe we have one
[2:16:36] African-American officer that's
[2:16:37] on the executive board of
[2:16:41] the play.
[2:16:42] Before you want to attack
[2:16:43] the commission, let's address
[2:16:43] that.
[2:16:47] Let's be inclusive and let's
[2:16:47] fix that.
[2:16:48] So thank you.
[2:16:53] I look forward to the continued
[2:16:54] conversations, Kota because we
[2:16:55] have work to do And so Council
[2:16:59] PRESIDENT I will conclude my
[2:16:59] comments there.
[2:17:00] Thank you.
[2:17:00] All right.
[2:17:04] Thank you, Councilmember Foster
[2:17:05] looks like everyone has spoken
[2:17:06] who wants to offer a couple of
[2:17:10] comments mainly driven by
[2:17:10] public comment.
[2:17:11] You know we're always
[2:17:12] interested in public insight
[2:17:17] about how we put our agenda and
[2:17:17] how we word things.
[2:17:18] But when I am 100 says
[2:17:19] independent legal counsel for
[2:17:23] the Office of the City Auditor
[2:17:23] and the Audit Committee, I'm
[2:17:24] not sure what else we can do
[2:17:28] and why it gets confused with
[2:17:29] the office of the aba But if
[2:17:30] you want to make some
[2:17:35] improvements about how our
[2:17:35] languages are please let us
[2:17:36] know.
[2:17:36] Thank you MR. Right now for
[2:17:40] being in the audience on this
[2:17:41] one and the work that it took
[2:17:41] to get this item forward and
[2:17:46] also brief comments as final
[2:17:46] two.
[2:17:47] I want to congratulate those
[2:17:48] commissioners on the cpd that
[2:17:52] are willing to continue their
[2:17:52] public service and be
[2:17:53] reappointed to the acp.
[2:17:57] The Commission on Public Police
[2:17:58] Practices and to the public
[2:17:58] comment that suggest that
[2:18:03] yesterday's action that
[2:18:03] the Council did any cherry
[2:18:04] picking of who would be
[2:18:05] appointed to the vacant seat I
[2:18:08] thoroughly and completely
[2:18:09] reject that If you actually had
[2:18:14] paid attention to that I'm not
[2:18:15] sure there was a 100% but
[2:18:15] the Commission on Police
[2:18:16] Practices did their own vetting
[2:18:20] of a candidate and made their
[2:18:20] recommendation.
[2:18:21] I don't know that we hit 100%
[2:18:22] of their recommendations but
[2:18:25] pretty darn close.
[2:18:26] And so I'm very proud of
[2:18:27] the work that those people that
[2:18:31] are willing to step up to serve
[2:18:31] on the commission who
[2:18:32] understand the assignment in
[2:18:33] front of them and the process
[2:18:36] that we went through to make
[2:18:36] appointments you're always
[2:18:37] going to lose someone who is
[2:18:42] highly qualified but there's
[2:18:42] always openings that reemerge
[2:18:43] on the commission and I hope
[2:18:47] they will engage again.
[2:18:48] But I just want to make that
[2:18:48] point.
[2:18:53] So with that we have a motion
[2:18:54] by Councilmember Moreno and a
[2:18:55] second by Councilmember Ila
[2:18:55] Rivera.
[2:18:59] The move the consent items
[2:18:59] please call the vote.
[2:19:00] >> I start the voting system.
[2:19:10] Please cast your vote That
[2:19:10] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with
[2:19:11] Councilmember Campos absent and
[2:19:15] Councilmember Van Wilpert
[2:19:16] voting no when I was 52 and 112
[2:19:17] and Councilmember Foster voting
[2:19:20] no on item 52.
[2:19:21] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[2:19:21] All right.
[2:19:21] No objection.
[2:19:22] Thank you for catching those no
[2:19:25] votes.
[2:19:26] Next, do we have any comments
[2:19:27] from the mayor's office?
[2:19:31] Councilmember City attorney,
[2:19:32] independent budget analysts or
[2:19:32] city clerk Not seeing any.
[2:19:36] Oh, sorry.
[2:19:37] Councilmember Rivera Thank you,
[2:19:37] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:19:38] I appreciate the opportunity.
[2:19:41] I did want to speak to
[2:19:42] something that troubled me over
[2:19:46] the last week and it's killing
[2:19:50] of two men Lorenzo Legado Raul
[2:19:51] and Johann Sebastian Guerrero.
[2:19:55] Lorenzo was 52 years old.
[2:19:56] He had spent 35 years in this
[2:19:57] country, had three American
[2:20:00] sons, one a teacher, one an
[2:20:01] engineer, one still in college.
[2:20:02] He had no criminal record and
[2:20:05] he was driving his construction
[2:20:06] crew to a job site in Houston
[2:20:07] Last Tuesday morning when I saw
[2:20:10] officers shot him and killed
[2:20:14] him as a sunset after nearly 35
[2:20:15] years of working to give us
[2:20:16] the American dream, he made
[2:20:17] the choice to begin the process
[2:20:17] of obtaining his American dream
[2:20:20] through a work permit.
[2:20:21] We dotted every I crossed every
[2:20:21] t field, every document
[2:20:24] attended every appointment.
[2:20:25] He was close to obtaining his
[2:20:28] legal status and he even had a
[2:20:28] biometric scan and fingerprints
[2:20:33] done earlier this year
[2:20:34] Reynaldo, his son said that his
[2:20:35] mother was told something bad
[2:20:39] had happened to his dad around
[2:20:40] 7 A.M. Last Tuesday after
[2:20:40] frantically looking for him at
[2:20:41] his job site and finding his
[2:20:47] empty van.
[2:20:48] His son saw a video and he said
[2:20:49] I recognized him not from his
[2:20:51] appearance but from his voice
[2:20:52] crying for help as he lay on
[2:20:56] the street.
[2:21:01] >> He was crying for help while
[2:21:01] he was bleeding in the street
[2:21:02] with handcuffs on.
[2:21:06] That's not how his son wants
[2:21:07] his father to be remembered not
[2:21:07] as someone who got shot and
[2:21:11] killed but as a family man a
[2:21:12] man who understood the good
[2:21:12] things come to those who put in
[2:21:16] hard work.
[2:21:16] Yohan was 26.
[2:21:21] He was a delivery driver and
[2:21:21] authorized to work here
[2:21:22] Yesterday morning on his way to
[2:21:25] work ice agents rammed his car,
[2:21:26] fired through his windshield
[2:21:31] and killed him And he was also
[2:21:35] not the subject of of a warrant
[2:21:41] His partner was on her knees in
[2:21:41] the street.
[2:21:42] Their three year old daughter
[2:21:43] was standing next to her in her
[2:21:49] blue pajamas.
[2:21:50] >> In both cases the Department
[2:21:50] of Homeland Security said
[2:21:51] the same thing It has said
[2:21:52] again and again that the man
[2:21:58] weaponized his vehicle and that
[2:21:58] the officer feared for his
[2:21:59] life.
[2:21:59] We've heard that account before
[2:22:03] We heard that in Minneapolis.
[2:22:04] We heard that in Texas.
[2:22:05] We've heard that again and
[2:22:07] again.
[2:22:08] And when footage has emerged it
[2:22:12] has not matched what we're told
[2:22:12] The men who witness
[2:22:13] the shooting of Lorenzo, his
[2:22:16] brother and two of their
[2:22:17] coworkers spoke to their family
[2:22:18] members while on Immigration
[2:22:18] and Customs Enforcement
[2:22:21] detention where officers are
[2:22:22] urging them to sign paperwork
[2:22:23] for their removal from
[2:22:26] the country so that they cannot
[2:22:31] testify to what they saw.
[2:22:31] Neither of these men was
[2:22:32] stopped for a crime.
[2:22:34] Neither was accused of one.
[2:22:35] They were going to work.
[2:22:36] They were brown men going to
[2:22:39] work and they were targeted
[2:22:40] exactly for that.
[2:22:44] We've heard the stories that
[2:22:45] ice has told about both of
[2:22:49] these killings already change
[2:22:50] Again, these allegations of
[2:22:50] quote unquote weapons
[2:22:54] weaponization of vehicles has
[2:22:54] now become a more vague claim
[2:22:58] of concern for public safety.
[2:22:59] As of this morning ice agents
[2:23:03] have been told to immediately
[2:23:04] halt most vehicle stops
[2:23:04] nationwide.
[2:23:05] That's not enough.
[2:23:08] The families of Lorenzo and
[2:23:09] Johan deserve truth and
[2:23:09] justice.
[2:23:10] Why does that matter here?
[2:23:14] Because San Diego is a border
[2:23:15] city obviously, But we're also
[2:23:15] the city we are because of our
[2:23:18] immigrant refugee communities.
[2:23:19] So folks who take care of our
[2:23:19] children who run small
[2:23:20] businesses and who literally
[2:23:23] build a city, they're watching
[2:23:23] what's happening and doing
[2:23:27] the math about whether it's
[2:23:28] safe to go to work.
[2:23:32] That fear is not incidental,
[2:23:33] that terror is the point that
[2:23:34] this regime is intending to
[2:23:37] inflict upon our communities.
[2:23:38] We cannot pretend that it's
[2:23:38] normal.
[2:23:42] Ice is beyond reform.
[2:23:43] It should be disbanded,
[2:23:44] abolished however you want to
[2:23:47] say it.
[2:23:48] One last point on this There's
[2:23:51] no footage for either of these
[2:23:52] killings.
[2:23:55] That's despite Congress giving
[2:23:56] a $75 billion making it
[2:23:56] the highest funded law
[2:23:57] enforcement agency in
[2:24:00] the federal government with
[2:24:01] more money than the fbi,
[2:24:01] the dea, the atf and the U.S.
[2:24:05] Marshals combined.
[2:24:06] It's a choice not to have
[2:24:10] cameras, a choice to inflict
[2:24:11] this sort of terror on our
[2:24:14] communities and it's critical
[2:24:15] that it stop.
[2:24:16] So with that council PRESIDENT,
[2:24:19] I'd ask that we hold a moment
[2:24:20] of silence for Lorenzo Yohan
[2:24:39] and their families.
[2:24:39] Thank you.
[2:24:40] Go to prison.
[2:24:40] All right.
[2:24:41] Thank you.
[2:24:42] Councilmember member Rara.
[2:24:42] >> We'll go next to council
[2:24:47] member Von Wilpert.
[2:24:48] >> I want to thank COUNCILMAN
[2:24:51] Little Rivera for your comments
[2:24:51] .
[2:24:52] >> What ice is doing in our
[2:24:56] nation is completely lawless.
[2:24:56] It's completely chaotic and
[2:24:57] it's wrong.
[2:25:01] We here voted at the city of
[2:25:02] San Diego to join the lawsuit
[2:25:02] with Minneapolis to stop ice
[2:25:03] from coming into our
[2:25:06] communities without warrants
[2:25:06] with their guns.
[2:25:10] We train police around this
[2:25:11] nation not to shoot into moving
[2:25:15] vehicles unless it's absolutely
[2:25:16] necessary And none of
[2:25:16] the circumstances that are
[2:25:17] coming out about the shootings
[2:25:20] in Texas or in Maine would lead
[2:25:20] us to believe that was
[2:25:24] necessary at all.
[2:25:25] >> So I hope that we can
[2:25:29] continue to push forward with
[2:25:30] this lawsuit.
[2:25:30] We can continue to push forward
[2:25:31] doing everything we can to keep
[2:25:33] ice out of our communities here
[2:25:34] in San Diego.
[2:25:38] But I'm also really completely
[2:25:39] baffled by the fact that our
[2:25:44] U.S. Government won't even put
[2:25:44] basic constitutional guardrails
[2:25:45] on ice like our police have to
[2:25:49] do And that's a federal issue.
[2:25:49] We can't vote on that here
[2:25:53] The city of San Diego.
[2:25:54] But I hope that we continue to
[2:25:54] push our federal officials if
[2:25:55] they're going to continue this,
[2:25:57] they have to do their job in
[2:25:58] making sure every agency
[2:25:59] follows the United States
[2:26:04] Constitution in this country.
[2:26:05] But thank you member over here
[2:26:05] for raising up the families
[2:26:07] that are suffering.
[2:26:08] All right.
[2:26:09] Thank you, Council member Von
[2:26:09] Wolpert.
[2:26:10] Anybody else requesting to
[2:26:11] speak at this time We will now
[2:26:12] take up not agenda public
[2:26:16] comment Council members respect
[2:26:17] and appreciate the public.
[2:26:18] Some are fully committed to
[2:26:18] protecting every participant's
[2:26:22] free speech rights at Council
[2:26:22] and committee meetings.
[2:26:23] >> Please proceed with public
[2:26:23] comment.
[2:26:24] Thank you.
[2:26:26] Council PRESIDENT Pearl 2.7 on
[2:26:26] Agenda Public comment is an
[2:26:27] opportunity for members of
[2:26:30] the public to comment on items
[2:26:31] that are not on the agenda but
[2:26:31] within the subject matter
[2:26:32] jurisdiction of the City
[2:26:32] Council.
[2:26:35] Each speaker will have two
[2:26:36] minutes.
[2:26:36] Please note if there are eight
[2:26:37] or more speakers on a single
[2:26:38] topic the maximum time for
[2:26:40] the topic will be 16 minutes.
[2:26:41] If you're in chambers please
[2:26:41] submit your speaker slip to
[2:26:42] the front of the room If you're
[2:26:45] joining us virtually please
[2:26:46] raise your hand to speak by
[2:26:46] tapping the raise your hand
[2:26:47] icon or if you're calling
[2:26:50] participant Star nine We'll
[2:26:51] start with Brother Steven
[2:26:51] Gerrard z Lasky if you can
[2:26:55] please come up to the podium.
[2:26:55] I know you have something on
[2:26:56] the docket that we will be
[2:26:59] sharing Paul Krueger and Laurie
[2:27:00] Saldana If you can also please
[2:27:04] come up to the Yellow Reserves
[2:27:04] seats as well as allegedly
[2:27:05] Andre and Maximilian Schmidt.
[2:27:09] You'll have two minutes.
[2:27:09] >> Thank you.
[2:27:14] San Diego Council member
[2:27:14] citizens and all listening and
[2:27:15] participating Steven Gerrard's
[2:27:18] would love ski a third order
[2:27:19] Franciscan I'd like to up with
[2:27:22] open with holy Scripture
[2:27:23] because the Holy Bible guides
[2:27:27] us lovingly Proverbs 815 says
[2:27:28] By me Kings reign and rulers
[2:27:32] issued decrees that are just
[2:27:33] emphasizing that all earthly
[2:27:36] authority leadership and fair
[2:27:37] governance are ultimately
[2:27:38] derived from GOD's wisdom.
[2:27:42] Sounds like our leaders need to
[2:27:43] move to the Holy Bible and
[2:27:43] GOD's wisdom is what it sounds
[2:27:47] like to me with what's going on
[2:27:47] in America today.
[2:27:51] I continue to amplify new usa
[2:27:56] preborn personhood cities.
[2:27:57] It's a new direction that
[2:28:01] America can move in.
[2:28:01] I put upon the overhead
[2:28:06] the many verses of theological
[2:28:10] covenant theology and as you
[2:28:11] continue to delve into your
[2:28:15] holy Scripture from time to
[2:28:15] time, covenant theology is what
[2:28:16] our wonderful Founding Fathers
[2:28:20] knew very well and that's how
[2:28:24] the us Constitution came about
[2:28:24] .
[2:28:25] I will let you know I have
[2:28:26] attended the Washington dc
[2:28:29] MARCH for Life also
[2:28:29] the California MARCH for Life
[2:28:30] and on various occasions
[2:28:34] the San Diego a Walk for Life.
[2:28:35] There is no place for violence
[2:28:39] in the world and there's no
[2:28:39] place for violence of
[2:28:40] the innocent little ones
[2:28:43] developing in the mother's.
[2:28:44] There is a beating heart in
[2:28:48] the mother's with separate dna
[2:28:48] .
[2:28:49] Pre-Born personhood can now be
[2:28:53] established possibly even in
[2:28:54] the district's mission.
[2:28:54] San Diego is in District seven.
[2:28:58] Let's do it there.
[2:28:58] That's beautiful.
[2:28:59] We've got the festival
[2:29:00] The bells coming up here this
[2:29:00] weekend.
[2:29:03] I invite all of you to come
[2:29:04] listen to the beautiful
[2:29:05] festival The bells, the ringing
[2:29:08] of the bells will be 12 noon
[2:29:08] Sunday.
[2:29:09] i hope to be there for
[2:29:11] the blessing of the animals
[2:29:12] Bring your animals 12 noon
[2:29:17] Saturday like that.
[2:29:17] GOD bless you.
[2:29:21] Next we have Paul Kruger.
[2:29:22] >> You also have a presentation
[2:29:26] that will be put up.
[2:29:27] Thank you very much.
[2:29:28] I'm disappointed that
[2:29:32] the council member from my
[2:29:32] district left the days before
[2:29:36] listening to these comments but
[2:29:41] if Kevin chosen it's not
[2:29:41] important.
[2:29:41] I'm just here to restate
[2:29:45] the importance of your taking
[2:29:46] any action you can to reopen
[2:29:50] the closed restrooms in Mission
[2:29:50] Bay.
[2:29:54] Um I think the postings I've
[2:29:55] seen on social media have
[2:29:59] received at least 5000
[2:29:59] responses from San Diego who
[2:30:03] are concerned upset,
[2:30:04] frustrated, angry about these
[2:30:05] closures.
[2:30:09] And while I understand your
[2:30:09] power over the budget is
[2:30:14] limited, I urge you to please
[2:30:15] take some action to work to
[2:30:19] either find the money to reopen
[2:30:20] the restrooms or to work with
[2:30:24] groups that will do this work
[2:30:24] voluntarily.
[2:30:28] As I said yesterday, I have no
[2:30:29] idea of the constraints on
[2:30:33] volunteer groups handling
[2:30:34] issues like this because of
[2:30:38] labor but please examine that
[2:30:39] possibility.
[2:30:43] You know I spoke before about
[2:30:43] what I thought was a terrible
[2:30:48] dereliction of responsibility
[2:30:48] when the mayor cut $70 million
[2:30:52] from arts without first
[2:30:53] surveying the available money
[2:30:57] in the nonprofit contribution
[2:31:02] area or working closely with
[2:31:03] arts groups to come up with
[2:31:07] ways to backfill all this money
[2:31:07] before it was cut.
[2:31:08] Now we know it was reinstated.
[2:31:12] That's fine.
[2:31:13] But I think it's also
[2:31:13] absolutely even more
[2:31:17] unacceptable that the money was
[2:31:18] cut for these restrooms without
[2:31:21] looking for alternatives to
[2:31:22] keep them open And I hope that
[2:31:27] one of them or more of you will
[2:31:28] take some action to work with
[2:31:31] these groups that are trying to
[2:31:32] keep these restaurants
[2:31:32] restrooms open.
[2:31:33] >> Thank you.
[2:31:33] Thank you.
[2:31:36] Laurie Saldana, You have a
[2:31:41] video you'd like to share?
[2:31:41] Yeah.
[2:31:44] Do you want the photo first or
[2:31:44] the videos first?
[2:31:45] >> The video please.
[2:31:49] Thank you.
[2:31:50] So what this is going to show
[2:31:54] is a last night high tide in
[2:31:55] Mission Beach at the south end
[2:32:01] of Mission Boulevard and high
[2:32:04] tide came last night about 9:00
[2:32:05] And this is becoming
[2:32:06] increasingly a public safety
[2:32:06] issue.
[2:32:09] The high tide without any storm
[2:32:10] surge behind it is routinely
[2:32:11] flooding the alleyways and
[2:32:15] the parking lots at the south
[2:32:15] end of Mission Beach.
[2:32:16] So I can pause for your time
[2:32:17] until we can.
[2:32:18] >> All right.
[2:32:22] Thank you.
[2:32:26] I'm standing at the corner here
[2:32:32] and that wasn't the entire one
[2:32:32] that doesn't really show this
[2:32:33] truck.
[2:32:33] >> And there were other trucks
[2:32:36] that were speeding through this
[2:32:37] standing water and the water is
[2:32:40] now completely exceeded
[2:32:41] the storm drain capacity.
[2:32:41] This is becoming increasingly
[2:32:45] it needs to be a planned
[2:32:46] retreat zone.
[2:32:50] You can plan to move these
[2:32:51] buildings out And there is an
[2:32:51] image showing the high tide
[2:32:55] table there you can plan or you
[2:32:56] can have a catastrophic retreat
[2:33:00] which is when we see a choice
[2:33:01] where in the Choice Creek area
[2:33:02] where people's lives are at
[2:33:04] risk as well as property.
[2:33:05] I want to encourage this
[2:33:05] council to think in terms of
[2:33:09] public safety, to think in
[2:33:10] terms of how people are acting
[2:33:14] when the water is flooding And
[2:33:15] this actually is right outside
[2:33:15] of what used to be apartments
[2:33:19] and is now 90% in one building.
[2:33:20] Short term vacation rentals
[2:33:24] offer these people some
[2:33:24] compensation to move them out
[2:33:25] of this area and create a
[2:33:29] retreat area or you will have
[2:33:30] catastrophic losses along these
[2:33:33] coastal areas.
[2:33:34] Finally I just want to say
[2:33:34] thank you MR. Foster.
[2:33:39] I guess he is departed his
[2:33:39] comment about p away Anyone of
[2:33:44] you who has taken money from
[2:33:45] pay and use that for your
[2:33:46] campaigns or plans to do so in
[2:33:48] the future I think their
[2:33:49] attitude as reflected in their
[2:33:50] comments tells you all you need
[2:33:53] to know about why that is not a
[2:33:54] good idea and why I moved for
[2:33:58] the county party platform to
[2:33:58] refuse money from law
[2:33:59] enforcement agencies.
[2:34:00] They rely on you for their
[2:34:03] salaries.
[2:34:04] >> You should not be getting
[2:34:04] money in return.
[2:34:05] Thank you for that concluding
[2:34:05] comment.
[2:34:08] Allegedly address And then
[2:34:08] Maximillian Schmidt is the last
[2:34:11] person here in council chambers
[2:34:11] .
[2:34:16] I can't forget about Blair.
[2:34:21] >> I mean Bernie, I just find
[2:34:22] it extremely difficult to
[2:34:25] listen to you speak
[2:34:26] hypocritically about wanting to
[2:34:31] uphold the Constitution And
[2:34:31] because you're infringing on
[2:34:36] our Second Amendment and it
[2:34:36] even says in there shall not be
[2:34:37] infringed.
[2:34:40] So I mean you can't be on both
[2:34:45] sides of that either You're
[2:34:46] totally supportive of all of it
[2:34:46] or have none of it And I find
[2:34:50] that you're probably supportive
[2:34:50] of none of it because otherwise
[2:34:51] you would uphold all of it And
[2:34:55] that goes for all of you guys.
[2:34:55] But it's sad to hear you talk
[2:34:59] about deaths of people.
[2:35:00] Nobody should be dying and
[2:35:01] murdered of course, but it's
[2:35:04] happening in your guys's city.
[2:35:06] I come to you time and again
[2:35:09] until you guys about people
[2:35:10] dying at Tent City and it's
[2:35:13] because they're homeless that
[2:35:14] you guys don't care if they
[2:35:18] were illegal or undocumented as
[2:35:19] people would like to say then
[2:35:20] you guys would What you did at
[2:35:24] Cesar Chavez Park immediately
[2:35:24] get those people out of that
[2:35:25] encampment because it was
[2:35:29] sensitive And it's like yet
[2:35:34] people die like I mean even
[2:35:34] Sean last year was saying like
[2:35:38] we need to look into this and
[2:35:39] imagine if he would have ten
[2:35:39] more 12 more people wouldn't
[2:35:43] have died.
[2:35:44] >> But it's okay.
[2:35:44] They're homeless.
[2:35:45] It's more money.
[2:35:45] You know, check the boxes of
[2:35:48] like you know, saying that
[2:35:49] there's more of them So we need
[2:35:52] more money to come in And i
[2:35:53] just find it sad because he
[2:35:54] just went on the news and was
[2:35:54] like talking about Tent City
[2:35:57] and Tim Allen's death And it's
[2:35:58] like what a slap in the face to
[2:36:02] that man because he didn't have
[2:36:02] to die And it's like it would
[2:36:03] have been better to have Henry
[2:36:04] up there just so he could
[2:36:07] virtue signal because the guy
[2:36:08] was African American or black
[2:36:08] whatever we want to call it
[2:36:11] these days.
[2:36:12] It's just so sad that you guys
[2:36:13] care about people you don't
[2:36:16] even know while you have people
[2:36:17] presently dying in your own
[2:36:21] city and you don't care.
[2:36:21] >> Maximillian Schmidt, if you
[2:36:30] can please come forward on I
[2:36:35] have no family or friends that
[2:36:39] I'm close with and have been
[2:36:44] homeless in Southern California
[2:36:44] living on the streets for
[2:36:49] almost two years and on
[2:36:50] the vast majority of that time
[2:36:50] I have not been staying at
[2:36:54] the shelter.
[2:36:54] I've been sleeping on
[2:36:59] the streets and I am not a
[2:37:03] victim of drug addiction or a
[2:37:08] victim of just a mental illness
[2:37:09] because I've also been told
[2:37:13] them schizophrenic.
[2:37:14] I'm a victim of the Masonic
[2:37:15] Lodge depopulating homeless
[2:37:19] people and the Freemasons.
[2:37:20] A lot of people don't know
[2:37:22] about the Freemasons but
[2:37:22] the three Masons are
[2:37:23] depopulating homeless people
[2:37:28] across the world And when
[2:37:28] the Freemasons do occult group
[2:37:32] rituals in the Masonic Lodge
[2:37:33] they actually become possessed
[2:37:33] by the devil and telepathic And
[2:37:37] what they do is called Zeus
[2:37:37] said Song.
[2:37:38] A lot of people know what Zeus
[2:37:39] had sign Gaslighting is but
[2:37:41] they don't know that
[2:37:42] the Freemasons are doing it to
[2:37:46] homeless people and literally
[2:37:47] depopulating them in San Diego
[2:37:51] And what they do is they
[2:37:51] pretend to have a conversation
[2:37:52] with each other and really they
[2:37:56] say your thoughts out loud and
[2:37:56] it's called a targeted
[2:38:00] conversation And if you're
[2:38:01] homeless living on the streets
[2:38:01] they're surround you at all
[2:38:02] times doing this.
[2:38:05] So they're constantly acting
[2:38:06] like some GOD figures And who
[2:38:10] are you supposed to turn to?
[2:38:10] No one.
[2:38:11] No one believes you if you tell
[2:38:12] them If you go to the police
[2:38:15] they say you're crazy.
[2:38:16] No one What do you do in a
[2:38:19] society that normalizes
[2:38:20] the third eye makes it clear
[2:38:21] that they can see through your
[2:38:21] eyes and they can read your
[2:38:25] mind and they constantly are
[2:38:26] making make you aware of that.
[2:38:26] What do you do?
[2:38:30] And no one believes you and all
[2:38:30] city council are Freemasons and
[2:38:31] guilty of depopulating.
[2:38:32] That does conclude your time.
[2:38:52] >> Blair Beekman Right where?
[2:38:53] Beekman Thank you to Gary for
[2:38:53] your words.
[2:38:54] I hope the city of Oakland will
[2:38:57] continue to develop its current
[2:38:58] 18 month process of community
[2:39:03] participation to help find a
[2:39:04] future better principal
[2:39:04] The help prevent provided
[2:39:06] besides plaque a reminder that
[2:39:06] these are surveillance
[2:39:07] technology policy ideas that
[2:39:07] are open participatory
[2:39:12] democracy and best practices.
[2:39:12] These are ideas that tend to
[2:39:16] develop sustainability peace,
[2:39:17] open dialog and not war.
[2:39:18] To note Oakland has a love life
[2:39:21] philosophy that I feel can
[2:39:22] include the idea of do no harm
[2:39:22] to others in their policy
[2:39:23] making promise.
[2:39:26] I want to address and respect a
[2:39:27] long time ally ship between
[2:39:28] the U.S. And Israel and these
[2:39:31] relations ups with the Mideast
[2:39:31] overall.
[2:39:32] But I also want to note I am
[2:39:36] simply dedicated as many people
[2:39:36] are at this time in history to
[2:39:37] be developing concepts of peace
[2:39:40] dialog and participatory
[2:39:41] democracy is how to address
[2:39:42] policymaking before the policy
[2:39:46] practices of state violence,
[2:39:47] genocide and continual war upon
[2:39:47] innocent people.
[2:39:51] Interestingly, people of local
[2:39:52] us communities are starting to
[2:39:52] better address us data
[2:39:56] companies like Floc at this
[2:39:56] time as clock seems to be over
[2:39:57] Developing this data within
[2:39:58] the context of supporting
[2:40:00] international policies of war
[2:40:01] and its harm To admit I'm not
[2:40:05] fully understanding these
[2:40:06] things but my words are trying
[2:40:07] to connect to a decent reasoned
[2:40:10] approach that MAY be developing
[2:40:10] around the world at this time
[2:40:11] and wanting to collectively try
[2:40:12] to better address the future of
[2:40:15] new corporations like plaque
[2:40:15] and that we can begin to more
[2:40:16] openly and vaguely clearly ask
[2:40:20] and address Are these efforts
[2:40:20] to leave more than just anger
[2:40:24] and hatred towards Israel after
[2:40:25] the past 25 years of shocking
[2:40:25] state violence, pandemics,
[2:40:29] genocide and continual war?
[2:40:30] Hopefully there is a deeper
[2:40:31] question at work at this time
[2:40:32] that asked all of us How can we
[2:40:34] practice the ideals of peace
[2:40:35] and dialog to solve issues and
[2:40:35] not war?
[2:40:38] i hope this can be clarifying
[2:40:39] some of my recent words.
[2:40:40] I would also like to work to
[2:40:44] end work sooner in San Diego if
[2:40:44] possible but I also hope that
[2:40:45] we can all see a good purpose
[2:40:48] to simply create a more
[2:40:49] neutral, safe, clearer
[2:40:50] discussion in the fall of 26
[2:40:50] and 20 seven.
[2:40:52] >> Thanks.
[2:40:53] >> Thank you.
[2:40:54] That does conclude your time.
[2:40:54] I have started the five minute
[2:40:57] timer and we will turn to
[2:40:58] virtual comment or begin with
[2:41:00] Madison.
[2:41:06] Please begin.
[2:41:07] >> Hello San Diego City
[2:41:07] Council.
[2:41:08] I'm here to follow up on my
[2:41:11] comment from yesterday's
[2:41:12] meeting and highlight why youth
[2:41:12] drug prevention should be a
[2:41:13] bigger priority for city
[2:41:16] council.
[2:41:16] Despite years of commercial
[2:41:17] marijuana sales, California is
[2:41:20] still fighting a massive
[2:41:21] illegal marijuana market.
[2:41:22] That means our response cannot
[2:41:26] simply be about enforcement.
[2:41:26] It must also include
[2:41:27] prevention.
[2:41:31] As a parent my greatest concern
[2:41:32] is the impact on young people.
[2:41:35] Today's marijuana is far more
[2:41:35] potent than what previous
[2:41:36] generations were exposed to.
[2:41:40] And research continues to link
[2:41:41] frequent adolescent use with
[2:41:42] increased risks of addiction
[2:41:46] psychosis, depression, anxiety
[2:41:50] impaired learning and changes
[2:41:51] to the developing brain all of
[2:41:52] which will obviously harm
[2:41:55] society at large as this
[2:41:55] generation grows up.
[2:41:56] When marijuana becomes more
[2:42:00] visible and more normalized,
[2:42:01] many young people perceive it
[2:42:01] as less harmful.
[2:42:05] That makes prevention even more
[2:42:06] important.
[2:42:06] We need to invest in education
[2:42:10] That gives youth accurate
[2:42:11] science based information
[2:42:15] before they begin experimenting
[2:42:15] .
[2:42:16] I encourage the city to
[2:42:17] continue supporting youth
[2:42:20] prevention programs, public
[2:42:20] education and community
[2:42:25] partnerships that help delay or
[2:42:25] prevent marijuana use
[2:42:26] altogether.
[2:42:26] Every dollar invested in
[2:42:30] prevention can spare a young
[2:42:31] person from lifelong health
[2:42:35] consequences and reduce future
[2:42:35] costs to our health care and
[2:42:36] behavioral health care systems.
[2:42:40] Enforcement is important
[2:42:40] because it addresses today's
[2:42:45] illegal market.
[2:42:45] But prevention protects
[2:42:46] tomorrow's generation.
[2:42:50] So I urge you to make forth a
[2:42:50] priority.
[2:42:51] >> Thank you.
[2:42:51] Thank you.
[2:42:51] Thank you.
[2:42:55] Our next speaker is Terry and
[2:42:55] Scully.
[2:42:59] >> Please begin.
[2:43:00] >> Good afternoon.
[2:43:00] San Diego City Council
[2:43:01] PRESIDENT McEvoy.
[2:43:04] My name is Terry and Scully and
[2:43:05] I attend my planning group and
[2:43:08] I also work in public health
[2:43:09] and youth mentoring and
[2:43:09] tutoring programs.
[2:43:14] I applaud the city's vision of
[2:43:14] just healthy and safe
[2:43:18] environment and future for all
[2:43:19] ,especially for those
[2:43:19] communities.
[2:43:20] Historically, a storied glade
[2:43:25] will have to be known as city
[2:43:25] council person Morano described
[2:43:28] this morning regarding Parks.
[2:43:29] My youth mentoring and tutoring
[2:43:30] programs in the city include
[2:43:33] teens from very diverse
[2:43:33] backgrounds on their behalf.
[2:43:37] I came today to report that it
[2:43:38] is these very teens from
[2:43:38] diverse backgrounds who
[2:43:42] experience health inequities
[2:43:43] especially as they've been
[2:43:43] targeted by tobacco and their
[2:43:48] marijuana companies.
[2:43:48] The African-American Tobacco
[2:43:49] Control Leadership Council
[2:43:52] released more excellent
[2:43:53] research regarding how I quote
[2:43:57] Big tobacco strategic Wrigley
[2:43:58] targeted blacks and the deadly
[2:43:58] consequences.
[2:44:03] Now they are taking a close
[2:44:03] look at the role of big
[2:44:04] marijuana as well in creating
[2:44:07] health inequities through their
[2:44:08] promotion of smoking and
[2:44:08] vaping.
[2:44:12] Research continues to grow
[2:44:13] regarding the role of these
[2:44:14] products in creating cancer and
[2:44:17] chronic disease related health
[2:44:18] inequities among my minor
[2:44:23] minority population Asians.
[2:44:23] I respectfully suggest that
[2:44:27] the cities enforcement efforts
[2:44:28] to eliminate intoxicating
[2:44:32] products sometimes nicotine,
[2:44:33] sometimes marijuana sometimes
[2:44:37] cbd be increased and that no
[2:44:38] new business no new business
[2:44:42] permits be allowed for tobacco
[2:44:42] and marijuana businesses They
[2:44:47] only harm those populations and
[2:44:48] you must strive to serve.
[2:44:48] Thank you for hearing my
[2:44:52] concerns this afternoon.
[2:44:52] Thank you.
[2:44:53] Our next speaker is Tony.
[2:45:01] Please begin.
[2:45:02] >> Our next speaker is Tony.
[2:45:04] Tony again.
[2:45:09] Commute for you.
[2:45:10] >> Hello?
[2:45:10] Can you hear me?
[2:45:16] Yes, please begin your comments
[2:45:17] .
[2:45:17] Yes.
[2:45:18] I just submitted something to
[2:45:18] the city clerk.
[2:45:19] Is it possible to pull up
[2:45:24] the document?
[2:45:25] >> No, I'm sorry.
[2:45:28] Submissions do need to be
[2:45:29] submitted 24 hours ahead of
[2:45:29] time.
[2:45:30] >> Okay then is it possible to
[2:45:34] reset my time?
[2:45:34] >> Yes.
[2:45:35] Well, reset the time.
[2:45:35] Yes.
[2:45:35] Think.
[2:45:38] Thank you.
[2:45:39] I agree with Audra in
[2:45:39] the comments that she made
[2:45:43] earlier regarding Martin von
[2:45:43] Wilpert.
[2:45:44] You can't call yourself an
[2:45:45] activist when you cherry pick
[2:45:47] the Constitution and disregard
[2:45:48] our Fourth Amendment rights by
[2:45:49] voting in favor of floc.
[2:45:52] And as a Chicano mexicano
[2:45:53] American man, I'm tired of
[2:45:54] hearing you politicize the pain
[2:45:57] our people are suffering from
[2:45:58] being targeted through flock
[2:45:58] cameras.
[2:46:02] You voted to empower and I'm
[2:46:02] tired of hearing you cherry
[2:46:03] pick the lowest hanging fruit
[2:46:06] regarding abuse of authority in
[2:46:07] relation to the state owned
[2:46:08] monopoly on violence.
[2:46:11] It's easy for you to pop up
[2:46:12] your chest and pass ordinances
[2:46:13] pretending to hold ice
[2:46:17] accountable when you're serving
[2:46:17] in a sanctuary city.
[2:46:18] It's not so easy for you to
[2:46:21] hold sd pd accountable for 42
[2:46:22] million in public reserve
[2:46:22] funds.
[2:46:26] They've cost us this year
[2:46:27] alone.
[2:46:31] No mention by you ever about
[2:46:31] police brutality.
[2:46:32] On the contrary.
[2:46:33] You vote to give them any toy
[2:46:36] they claim to need and you
[2:46:37] fabricate the reasons why your
[2:46:37] support is justified.
[2:46:40] Just last week you erroneously
[2:46:41] claimed that the half $1
[2:46:45] million armored tac cat was
[2:46:45] used to stop the shooting in
[2:46:46] San Isidro.
[2:46:50] That's not the case.
[2:46:51] That shooter was stopped by a
[2:46:55] sniper and that case is another
[2:46:56] case just like Valade just like
[2:46:59] Columbine where the response by
[2:46:59] law enforcement was so slow
[2:47:04] that it caused a needless
[2:47:04] amount of suffering.
[2:47:05] Just like what happened at
[2:47:09] the Islamic Center in San Diego
[2:47:10] a couple months ago, the all
[2:47:10] the tools, all the funding, all
[2:47:14] the training goes out
[2:47:15] the window The moment that it's
[2:47:15] required to stop innocent lives
[2:47:16] from being lost.
[2:47:19] The moment that courage is
[2:47:20] needed to actually stop the bad
[2:47:23] guys that we give them all
[2:47:24] these tools to go after.
[2:47:24] Just earlier this week lapd
[2:47:28] canceled their contract with
[2:47:29] Flock.
[2:47:33] I sent an article documenting
[2:47:34] how there's been over 161
[2:47:39] drivers that were subjected to
[2:47:39] armed high risk stops after
[2:47:40] automated.
[2:47:40] >> Thank you though does
[2:47:41] conclude your time.
[2:47:44] Dolan Our next speaker is
[2:47:44] Kathleen Lippert.
[2:47:53] Please begin.
[2:47:53] >> Thank you.
[2:47:54] Good afternoon.
[2:47:57] Thank you for letting me speak
[2:47:57] .
[2:47:58] I advocate for sound public
[2:47:59] health prevention policies that
[2:48:02] are effective economical and
[2:48:03] sustainable cities that end up
[2:48:08] with budget deficits are often
[2:48:09] not coincidentally cities that
[2:48:13] have failed to recognize
[2:48:13] the importance of prevention
[2:48:14] strategies.
[2:48:18] Prevention strategies are by
[2:48:19] their nature proactive versus
[2:48:22] reactive reactive policies are
[2:48:23] rarely sustainable but they are
[2:48:28] always costly and their costs
[2:48:29] continue to rise over time.
[2:48:33] Cigaret butts have always one
[2:48:38] of them one of the many of
[2:48:38] the industries that create
[2:48:39] these type could create toxic
[2:48:42] waste that require the public
[2:48:43] to be charged for cleaning them
[2:48:47] up.
[2:48:48] Our tobacco industry alcohol
[2:48:52] industry what they typically do
[2:48:53] is they they privatize, they
[2:48:58] profit and they publicize
[2:49:03] the big cost cigaret butts
[2:49:04] we've been cleaning up for
[2:49:07] decades and telling people that
[2:49:07] they are one of the number one
[2:49:12] waste products in the world But
[2:49:12] we have never taken the step
[2:49:13] the policy step that would
[2:49:17] address genesis of the problem
[2:49:18] and that is we should not allow
[2:49:22] them to be sold in the first
[2:49:22] place.
[2:49:27] >> It would be the city would
[2:49:28] benefit, the public would
[2:49:28] benefit and public health would
[2:49:32] benefit as well as
[2:49:33] the environment.
[2:49:33] If we started we prohibited
[2:49:37] the sale of all single use
[2:49:42] plastic vapes marijuana
[2:49:42] cigarets and cigaret butts with
[2:49:47] filters which do not that that
[2:49:48] do not break down and they
[2:49:53] cause a lot of harm to
[2:49:53] the animals and the wildlife
[2:49:58] and some of the recently
[2:49:58] they've done studies.
[2:49:59] >> Thank you.
[2:50:00] That does conclude your time.
[2:50:02] The five minute timer did go
[2:50:03] off.
[2:50:03] We have six speakers remaining
[2:50:04] in the queue.
[2:50:06] Our next speaker is Becky Rapp.
[2:50:11] >> Please begin.
[2:50:12] >> Good afternoon.
[2:50:13] My name is Becky Rapp and I'd
[2:50:18] like to add my voice to
[2:50:18] the many residents who have
[2:50:19] spoken yesterday and again
[2:50:20] today about the ongoing closure
[2:50:23] of public restrooms and around
[2:50:24] our most popular beaches.
[2:50:25] I want to add my voice because
[2:50:29] this issue affects every
[2:50:29] resident, every visitor and
[2:50:30] the image of our city.
[2:50:34] San Diego's beaches are our
[2:50:34] greatest attraction.
[2:50:35] They bring millions of visitors
[2:50:36] from across the country and
[2:50:39] generate the tourism revenue
[2:50:40] that supports our local
[2:50:40] economy.
[2:50:41] If we allow our beach
[2:50:44] communities to be known for
[2:50:45] closed restrooms, unsanitary
[2:50:46] conditions and hazardous waste,
[2:50:50] we risk losing visitors to
[2:50:51] neighboring destinations like
[2:50:55] our neighbors up north in
[2:50:56] Orange County.
[2:50:56] I urge the Council to
[2:50:57] reevaluate our priorities and
[2:51:00] dedicate funding to reopening,
[2:51:01] maintaining and cleaning public
[2:51:02] beach restrooms.
[2:51:07] I understand funding is a
[2:51:07] problem and encourage you to
[2:51:08] reevaluate enforcement against
[2:51:09] smoking vape shops that
[2:51:12] continue to sell or advertise
[2:51:13] illegal products.
[2:51:14] Fines and fees collected from
[2:51:18] those enforcement actions
[2:51:19] should be reinvested directly
[2:51:20] into the communities most
[2:51:25] impacted especially Pacific
[2:51:25] Beach Mission Beach and
[2:51:26] the Bayfront.
[2:51:26] We also need stronger
[2:51:30] enforcement against illegal
[2:51:30] advertising and the signage in
[2:51:31] storefront windows that are
[2:51:32] blatantly promoting illegal
[2:51:36] products such as kratom
[2:51:37] flavored tobacco and
[2:51:38] intoxicating hemp products that
[2:51:42] are marketed as cbd plus.
[2:51:43] These storefronts and
[2:51:43] billboards send the wrong
[2:51:44] message as they are in
[2:51:47] residence and tourist faces
[2:51:48] when they visit our beautiful
[2:51:48] beach communities.
[2:51:54] Our beach communities are
[2:51:54] the first impression many
[2:51:55] visitors have of San Diego.
[2:51:56] They should reflect a city that
[2:52:00] is clean, safe, healthy and
[2:52:00] welcoming.
[2:52:01] By enforcing existing laws,
[2:52:05] cleaning up our commercial
[2:52:06] corridors and reinvesting those
[2:52:06] revenues into open functional
[2:52:11] public restrooms and beach
[2:52:12] beautification, we can
[2:52:12] strengthen tourism while
[2:52:13] improving the quality of life
[2:52:15] for residents.
[2:52:15] Thank you.
[2:52:18] Please these prior Our next
[2:52:19] speaker is Judy Strange Please
[2:52:25] begin.
[2:52:26] Good afternoon San Diego City
[2:52:31] Council.
[2:52:31] I'd like to continue
[2:52:32] the conversation that began
[2:52:33] yesterday regarding how
[2:52:38] important roads safety is here
[2:52:39] to our city and the cost when
[2:52:44] our city roads aren't safe.
[2:52:45] And bring to your attention to
[2:52:46] the work that's been going on
[2:52:49] nationally regarding
[2:52:50] the serious safety concerns
[2:52:51] that one of the very largest
[2:52:56] organizations, the American
[2:52:57] Trucking Association has
[2:52:57] brought to the national scene
[2:53:02] And that's the concern that
[2:53:02] perhaps marijuana testing would
[2:53:03] be dropped from
[2:53:03] the requirements.
[2:53:04] They very much want it to
[2:53:08] continue.
[2:53:09] As I point out, this includes
[2:53:10] truck drivers, pilots, transit
[2:53:15] operators and they go on to say
[2:53:15] other safety sensitive workers
[2:53:16] and then they list those
[2:53:16] workers.
[2:53:20] They include bus drivers,
[2:53:21] flight attendants, air traffic
[2:53:26] controllers, air mechanics,
[2:53:26] rail operating personnel
[2:53:27] dispatchers, its signal
[2:53:32] personnel, transit operators
[2:53:32] and pipeline workers.
[2:53:33] They all provide safety
[2:53:38] critical high risk duties that
[2:53:39] are so important to us not only
[2:53:40] the city of San Diego but
[2:53:40] nationwide.
[2:53:44] And how important it will be to
[2:53:45] test real time marijuana
[2:53:46] impairment through the testing
[2:53:51] that is now in place.
[2:53:51] So they have written
[2:53:52] the federal government
[2:53:52] the American Trucking
[2:53:56] Association and now they have
[2:53:57] been joined by the National
[2:53:58] Transportation Safety Board who
[2:54:02] also warned about compromising
[2:54:03] our safety by not testing for
[2:54:08] marijuana any longer.
[2:54:09] At this point this requirement
[2:54:10] to test is still in place And I
[2:54:15] think for the sake of
[2:54:15] the traveling public that it
[2:54:16] should stay in place and as a
[2:54:17] hub for travel.
[2:54:21] i think here at San Diego we
[2:54:22] would agree.
[2:54:22] >> Thank you.
[2:54:22] Thank you.
[2:54:24] Our next speaker is Eddie
[2:54:24] Harms.
[2:54:30] Please begin.
[2:54:31] >> Thank you.
[2:54:32] Can you show the second page of
[2:54:32] the document that I apply to
[2:54:36] please?
[2:54:37] I'm sorry Submissions do need
[2:54:37] to be provided 24 hours before
[2:54:42] it was provided last week.
[2:54:43] I'm sorry we do not have that
[2:54:50] at this time So if you could
[2:54:50] please begin.
[2:54:51] If you could reset my time and
[2:54:51] let me start.
[2:54:55] Thank you.
[2:54:55] Good afternoon.
[2:54:56] Comes from across
[2:54:56] the presidents, mayor and
[2:54:57] council members.
[2:54:57] My name is Eddie Harness.
[2:55:01] Everybody knows from being a
[2:55:01] resident of the great city
[2:55:02] something since 2008.
[2:55:03] I'm here today to expose
[2:55:07] the legalize came a computer is
[2:55:08] running on the printers for
[2:55:08] your studio has finalized
[2:55:09] anyone moving to new residents
[2:55:12] by automatically charging
[2:55:12] the absolute maximum for sewer
[2:55:13] services under the arbitrary
[2:55:14] meter monitoring policy.
[2:55:22] Because I'm moving to my home
[2:55:22] in JUNE 2025 be said to
[2:55:23] continue in NOVEMBER to wait
[2:55:24] for monitoring when I was
[2:55:25] forced to pay maximum charges
[2:55:25] for entire year.
[2:55:26] This policy punishing renters
[2:55:27] to stay in one place is
[2:55:30] becoming impossible due to
[2:55:31] constant rate hikes economic
[2:55:32] economic downturn when forced
[2:55:37] to move to move the city resets
[2:55:37] to trap the move.
[2:55:38] The moment I sign a new lease
[2:55:39] I'm hit with a new maximum
[2:55:43] surcharge all over again.
[2:55:44] These are the absurdity.
[2:55:44] It's clear I live in a one
[2:55:48] bedroom, one bathroom home with
[2:55:49] zero landscaping from my
[2:55:50] building and in JUNE 22nd I use
[2:55:56] five acres of water averaging
[2:55:57] 64 gallons per day.
[2:56:01] Yet my total utility bill
[2:56:02] reached $244.
[2:56:06] My water my water based fuel
[2:56:06] surcharge 23% to $71 My source
[2:56:10] ever starts reach $106 as a
[2:56:11] cost of 70%.
[2:56:11] I'm just going to jump here
[2:56:16] because I don't have enough
[2:56:16] time.
[2:56:17] I demand a fair a fair sewer
[2:56:23] rate based on actual water
[2:56:24] usage not a dream of maximum
[2:56:24] capacity scenario designed to
[2:56:25] price Each residence is
[2:56:28] affiliated with a ship and
[2:56:28] needs to be fixed immediately.
[2:56:29] Thank you for your time.
[2:56:29] Thank you.
[2:56:34] Next speaker is caller with
[2:56:34] the last four digits 8700.
[2:56:43] Please begin Joyce in a thank
[2:56:49] you deputy city clerk.
[2:56:50] So like I've done a few times
[2:56:55] before I was really prepared
[2:56:56] and polished to speak on what I
[2:57:01] was going to speak to in
[2:57:02] the public column today and
[2:57:07] they're gone.
[2:57:07] Those comments are gone and I'm
[2:57:08] going to speak extemporaneously
[2:57:13] right now.
[2:57:14] Every single word is coming out
[2:57:19] about what thought what
[2:57:19] happened in these chambers
[2:57:20] today.
[2:57:24] If you feel this is what we've
[2:57:30] been doing all year together,
[2:57:31] this is the only thing for me
[2:57:36] to do together is to struggle
[2:57:43] is the beauty is the fight is
[2:57:44] the love.
[2:57:44] It's the truth.
[2:57:45] It's all of that.
[2:57:49] It's part of the human
[2:57:49] condition.
[2:57:55] It's a miracle but it's also a
[2:57:56] beautiful struggle.
[2:58:01] And I just want to say to every
[2:58:02] body who participated today I
[2:58:07] celebrate you.
[2:58:08] I just This is it, kids.
[2:58:13] This is life.
[2:58:14] Don't MISS It for a minute
[2:58:20] because it's all there is and
[2:58:21] it's precious.
[2:58:21] And ticks, ticks, ticks.
[2:58:26] I I can't believe how fast my
[2:58:31] life has gone in And so I do
[2:58:32] need to say that to all of you
[2:58:32] because you're going on
[2:58:33] the beautiful summer recess.
[2:58:37] Enjoy it.
[2:58:37] I wish you just a great time
[2:58:38] but I don't want us to look at
[2:58:43] this as anything but beautiful.
[2:58:49] This is life itself together.
[2:58:50] Thank you.
[2:58:50] That does conclude your time.
[2:58:51] Thank you all.
[2:58:53] Our next speaker is Amanda.
[2:58:59] >> Please begin.
[2:59:05] I hate to be Debbie Downer in
[2:59:06] up in contrast to the last
[2:59:06] caller but I was actually just
[2:59:11] popping in to think that what
[2:59:11] happened in these chambers
[2:59:16] today was disgraceful.
[2:59:17] >> We spent an hour dueling
[2:59:22] proclamations and celebration
[2:59:23] which I think is beautiful.
[2:59:28] I love that we had 30
[2:59:29] consistent items on the agenda.
[2:59:34] I heard city Council members
[2:59:35] ask what ten questions?
[2:59:43] Maybe we gave 15 million to
[2:59:44] soltero 106,000,002 or
[2:59:45] 3,850,000 to Pasadena
[2:59:48] Consulting 1.2 million to Orion
[2:59:49] Construction right where we
[2:59:55] didn't talk about steel 15
[2:59:56] apartments that we've now spent
[2:59:59] $8 million of interest on a $60
[3:00:00] million loan.
[3:00:00] We spent an hour doing
[3:00:05] celebration and we spent less
[3:00:05] than an hour.
[3:00:06] We didn't get a presentation.
[3:00:11] I didn't know that my my
[3:00:12] garbage was getting recorded.
[3:00:12] I didn't know until I started
[3:00:19] digging that the contractor
[3:00:19] rate rig has increased.
[3:00:23] Where's my numbers Here?
[3:00:24] >> I have a.
[3:00:28] So 2018 City Council entered a
[3:00:29] $3 million contract with for
[3:00:33] the trash collection 2021 up to
[3:00:33] 8.5 million 2021 went up to 38
[3:00:34] million.
[3:00:39] And now today 2035 we're going
[3:00:40] up to $106 million on freaking
[3:00:45] trash cans.
[3:00:46] I think we should spend a
[3:00:47] little bit longer than an hour.
[3:00:47] We need a lot more transparency
[3:00:52] in the city council.
[3:00:52] Honestly, this is embarrassing.
[3:00:53] It's a joke.
[3:00:53] Have a good resource and start
[3:00:57] looking for new jobs because
[3:00:58] whoever we can vote out in
[3:00:58] NOVEMBER is getting voted out.
[3:00:59] >> Thank you.
[3:00:59] Our final speakers Natalie
[3:01:07] Maskey please begin.
[3:01:07] >> Hi Natalie.
[3:01:07] Rush here.
[3:01:13] I just wanted to touch base
[3:01:13] with the gentleman who brought
[3:01:14] up the bathrooms.
[3:01:15] I always forget to mention why
[3:01:19] we were out there on
[3:01:19] the streets.
[3:01:20] I should have said this during
[3:01:21] the budget.
[3:01:24] My children started holding
[3:01:25] going to the bathroom That can
[3:01:30] really really mess up someone's
[3:01:31] intestines and all sorts of
[3:01:31] things.
[3:01:35] i always forget to mention that
[3:01:35] .
[3:01:35] That's sad.
[3:01:41] It's sad.
[3:01:41] With information at our
[3:01:42] fingertips.
[3:01:42] And I've said this before.
[3:01:47] We need to start really doing a
[3:01:48] lot of research on what is
[3:01:49] being implemented by our
[3:01:54] federal government with
[3:01:54] the plaque They're picking up
[3:01:55] blue tubes.
[3:01:59] They're picking up a lot of
[3:01:59] stuff.
[3:02:00] And like I said, I don't want
[3:02:05] to be round up and put on ranch
[3:02:05] because I don't see any other
[3:02:06] direction where the city MAY be
[3:02:11] going with no shelters, no
[3:02:12] bathrooms.
[3:02:12] What are we setting people up
[3:02:13] for?
[3:02:19] Now the city the cow fresh to
[3:02:23] the medical I just don't
[3:02:23] understand.
[3:02:24] And the information has been
[3:02:29] brought to me just for everyone
[3:02:30] to know that has children when
[3:02:30] you go to jump around.
[3:02:34] If you look at the fee waiver
[3:02:35] or data recording our children
[3:02:40] and you're signing up saying
[3:02:41] that it can be used live
[3:02:42] wherever they want to use it in
[3:02:47] other countries.
[3:02:48] So when you go to a jump around
[3:02:48] or bounce around place
[3:02:53] the waiver they're in all of
[3:02:53] them.
[3:02:54] And they're feeding our
[3:02:54] streaming our children's lives
[3:02:58] while they're playing to other
[3:02:58] countries.
[3:02:59] It says it right there in
[3:03:04] the local jump around here.
[3:03:05] We need to start really doing
[3:03:05] research in where we're
[3:03:06] investing our time and our
[3:03:06] money.
[3:03:11] Thank you.
[3:03:11] >> Thank you.
[3:03:12] That does conclude the agenda.
[3:03:12] Public comment.
[3:03:13] I think you Deputy City Clerk
[3:03:18] council members I'm open.
[3:03:18] Thank you.
[3:03:19] I should have said this during
[3:03:19] council comments or we're on
[3:03:20] recess.
[3:03:22] I just want to note that I care
[3:03:23] deeply about people who are
[3:03:23] suffering from overdose and
[3:03:28] addiction whether they're in a
[3:03:29] house, whether in camping,
[3:03:29] whether it parking.
[3:03:34] And I should mention earlier at
[3:03:35] a deputy city attorney I got to
[3:03:39] be one of only litigators suing
[3:03:40] the pharmaceutical companies
[3:03:41] who caused this problem
[3:03:41] including Purdue
[3:03:42] Pharmaceuticals in a for
[3:03:42] feeling themselves who were
[3:03:46] which themselves off the death
[3:03:46] of all of us.
[3:03:47] And then when I got here I
[3:03:48] fought with the mayor over how
[3:03:51] we're going to use
[3:03:52] the settlement funds And I
[3:03:52] fought with the county too,
[3:03:58] including using the funds to
[3:03:59] purchase a medical ban and
[3:04:00] funding put it into system so
[3:04:00] we could actually do street
[3:04:03] medicine that provides Suboxone
[3:04:04] to people on the street so they
[3:04:04] wouldn't have to come into
[3:04:05] the yards to get care.
[3:04:05] We partnered with ucsd Health
[3:04:08] and there are three emergency
[3:04:09] rooms in the college area and
[3:04:10] ucsd and Hillcrest to hire on
[3:04:16] call psychologist and here
[3:04:17] navigators If someone over
[3:04:17] overdoses and survives they no
[3:04:20] longer have a sheet of paper
[3:04:21] and say good luck they actually
[3:04:22] have someone to hold their hand
[3:04:22] to get them into rehab and help
[3:04:26] with that earlier because we do
[3:04:27] care deeply about it.
[3:04:27] So thank you.
[3:04:28] Thank you Councilmember.
[3:04:32] So we will now adjourn for
[3:04:33] the recess and reconvene open
[3:04:33] session at 2 P.M. Or shortly
[3:12:07] thereafter And not
[3:12:48] have
[3:13:50] to
[3:15:50] go
[3:17:21] .
[3:17:21] All right.
[3:17:21] Good afternoon.
[3:17:25] I will now reconvene the city
[3:17:26] council meeting of Tuesday,
[3:17:28] JULY 14th, 2026.
[3:17:29] >> clerk Please call the roll.
[3:17:30] Thank you.
[3:17:30] Council PRESIDENT Council
[3:17:33] member Campbell Council Member
[3:17:34] Whitburn here Council Member
[3:17:39] Foster Council Member Von
[3:17:43] Wilpert Council PRESIDENT Pro
[3:17:43] Timely Council Member Campo
[3:17:48] Councilmember Moreno Present
[3:17:48] Council Member Ella Rivera and
[3:17:53] Council PRESIDENT LaCava
[3:17:53] present.
[3:17:54] Also attending the meeting are
[3:17:54] Assistant City Attorney Leslie
[3:17:57] Fitzgerald, Independent Budget
[3:17:58] Analyst Charles Monica, Council
[3:17:59] Affairs Advisor in the Mayor's
[3:18:03] office, Code advisor and myself
[3:18:03] your city Clerk Diana Fuentes
[3:18:04] Thank you.
[3:18:04] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[3:18:05] Thank you.
[3:18:06] City Clerk a quorum is now
[3:18:07] present with that clerk Please
[3:18:11] introduce item f five oh six
[3:18:12] items 5o6 is the acceptance of
[3:18:15] the Stantec memorandum
[3:18:16] modifying the 2025 water cost
[3:18:16] of service study and
[3:18:19] authorization to issue
[3:18:20] the Proposition 218 notice and
[3:18:21] to set a public hearing date
[3:18:25] for a water rate adjustment.
[3:18:26] If you'd like to speak on this
[3:18:26] item please be sure to raise
[3:18:29] your hand by pressing Star nine
[3:18:29] or you raise your hand icon
[3:18:30] You're here in council chambers
[3:18:33] Please submit your speaker slip
[3:18:33] .
[3:18:34] Thank you and have All right.
[3:18:35] Thank you City Clerk and staff
[3:18:37] as you settle yourself in
[3:18:38] introduce yourselves for
[3:18:39] the record and let us know how
[3:18:39] much time you need.
[3:18:40] >> Okay?
[3:18:40] Thank you.
[3:18:43] Good afternoon.
[3:18:43] I'm Lisa Sliwa, interim
[3:18:44] director of the Public
[3:18:44] Utilities department.
[3:18:47] And with me is Adam Jones,
[3:18:48] deputy director of finance.
[3:18:51] We'll need about ten minutes
[3:18:52] for our presentation today.
[3:18:52] All right.
[3:18:53] When you're ready.
[3:18:56] So as noted today I'll be
[3:18:57] presenting item s5o6 acceptance
[3:19:00] of the Stantec memorandum
[3:19:01] modifying the 2025 water cost
[3:19:02] of service study and
[3:19:06] authorization and to issue
[3:19:07] the Proposition 218 notice and
[3:19:08] set a public hearing date for
[3:19:13] water rate adjustment two items
[3:19:13] today.
[3:19:14] >> First we are requesting
[3:19:18] Council set a public hearing
[3:19:22] date for OCTOBER 6th, 2026 to
[3:19:22] consider and vote on
[3:19:23] the proposed water rate
[3:19:27] adjustments required as a
[3:19:28] result of the Patz litigation.
[3:19:31] Second, I will walk through
[3:19:31] the details of the proposed
[3:19:32] rate adjustments that
[3:19:36] transition at our rates to a
[3:19:37] unitary structure and
[3:19:38] the anticipated monthly impact
[3:19:43] to customers.
[3:19:44] We are here today because of a
[3:19:45] legal decision that is forcing
[3:19:48] a shift in how we structure
[3:19:49] water rates.
[3:19:49] While the city believes
[3:19:53] the rate structure is legally
[3:19:53] compliant, the courts have
[3:19:54] established a different legal
[3:19:58] standard now that all available
[3:19:59] legal remedies have been
[3:20:02] exhausted.
[3:20:03] Our role today is to implement
[3:20:07] the Court's decision.
[3:20:08] As a result, rates will be
[3:20:09] changing for all customer
[3:20:12] categories.
[3:20:13] Our priority is to be proactive
[3:20:14] and transparent in how we
[3:20:17] communicate this change so
[3:20:18] customers understand what is
[3:20:22] happening and why.
[3:20:23] First I'll provide an overview
[3:20:23] of the Pats versus the city of
[3:20:27] San Diego litigation how rates
[3:20:27] are set, what was challenged
[3:20:32] and how the courts ruled.
[3:20:32] Before getting into
[3:20:33] the litigation itself.
[3:20:36] It is important to understand
[3:20:37] how rates are set in our
[3:20:37] industry nationally.
[3:20:41] Utilities use accepted cost of
[3:20:42] service methodologies
[3:20:46] allocating costs to customer
[3:20:46] classes based on engineering
[3:20:50] standards and best assumptions
[3:20:51] about how customers use
[3:20:51] the system.
[3:20:56] Our Industry guidebook is
[3:20:56] the American Waterworks
[3:20:57] Association's m-1 Principles of
[3:21:01] Water Rates, fees and charges
[3:21:02] similar to how engineers relied
[3:21:05] on standard reference codes or
[3:21:06] accountants rely on gasb
[3:21:07] accounting standards.
[3:21:11] >> The city goes a step further
[3:21:11] independently of public
[3:21:12] utilities.
[3:21:16] The aba hires a third party
[3:21:16] party consultant to review our
[3:21:20] cost of service methodology and
[3:21:21] raise any public policy
[3:21:24] concerns or recommendations.
[3:21:25] Tiered water rates are widely
[3:21:26] used throughout California
[3:21:30] because they help balance costs
[3:21:30] ,recovery conservation and
[3:21:31] equity.
[3:21:31] >> With conservation is a
[3:21:35] natural outcome of tearing not
[3:21:40] an objective proposition to 18
[3:21:40] has historically been
[3:21:41] implemented as allowing
[3:21:44] agencies to use reasonable
[3:21:45] engineering judgment within
[3:21:46] accepted cost allocation
[3:21:50] methodologies.
[3:21:51] This is how agencies statewide
[3:21:51] and across the country have
[3:21:58] operated for decades.
[3:21:58] Pass was filed 11 years ago
[3:21:59] today challenging the city's
[3:22:02] Single-family residential
[3:22:03] tiered water rates.
[3:22:06] Under Prop 218 parts represent
[3:22:07] high volume single family
[3:22:11] residential user and their
[3:22:12] claim was that the high volume
[3:22:12] users were subsidizing lower
[3:22:13] volume tiers.
[3:22:16] The Supreme Court ruled
[3:22:17] the city did not meet its
[3:22:21] burden of proof under Prop 218.
[3:22:22] In MARCH of 2020 to
[3:22:26] the appellate court affirmed
[3:22:26] that decision in JULY 2025 and
[3:22:30] the California Supreme Court
[3:22:31] denied our petition for review.
[3:22:34] In late OCTOBER 2025.
[3:22:35] At this point we have exhausted
[3:22:39] all legal remedies.
[3:22:40] Importantly, the courts did not
[3:22:43] disagree with our use of
[3:22:44] industry standards for
[3:22:45] allocating cost to various
[3:22:48] customer categories.
[3:22:49] What they said is that those
[3:22:53] methodologies do not satisfy
[3:22:54] Prop 218 evidentiary burden
[3:22:58] which effectively requires
[3:22:59] direct proof that every
[3:23:03] allocation exactly corresponds
[3:23:04] to proportional cost of
[3:23:04] service.
[3:23:05] The dissenting appellate judge
[3:23:08] warned that the majority
[3:23:09] opinion exceeds traditional
[3:23:14] engine engineering and utility
[3:23:14] practice standards and could
[3:23:15] make tiered water rates very
[3:23:19] difficult for agencies
[3:23:20] statewide to defend.
[3:23:24] This is becoming a pattern.
[3:23:24] The same attorneys who brought
[3:23:25] Patz previously overturned Otay
[3:23:29] Water District's tiered rate
[3:23:30] structure and are currently
[3:23:34] challenging Wp's tiered rates.
[3:23:34] Based on the court's decision.
[3:23:38] The city is now required to
[3:23:39] modify its rate structure.
[3:23:43] That means moving to a single
[3:23:43] unitary or flat rate for volume
[3:23:48] metric charges along with some
[3:23:48] adjustments to fix monthly
[3:23:49] service charges to reflect
[3:23:53] the new volumetric approach.
[3:23:54] The city will also have to pay
[3:23:56] a $40 million settlement.
[3:24:00] Council previously adopted a
[3:24:01] 14.5% rate increase effective
[3:24:04] JANUARY 1st, 2027.
[3:24:04] It's important to emphasize
[3:24:08] the total revenue public
[3:24:09] utilities collects under these
[3:24:10] adjustments is the same as
[3:24:13] authorized last OCTOBER.
[3:24:14] We are not asking for more
[3:24:14] money.
[3:24:18] We are required to change who
[3:24:18] pays and how much.
[3:24:19] With lower volume users paying
[3:24:23] somewhat more and high volume
[3:24:23] users paying less in order to
[3:24:24] comply with the court's
[3:24:28] findings.
[3:24:28] Next we'll walk through
[3:24:29] the specifics of the proposed
[3:24:33] rate adjustments.
[3:24:34] >> The shift to a unitary rate
[3:24:34] and the expected monthly impact
[3:24:37] on customers.
[3:24:38] This slide depicts
[3:24:38] the transition from our
[3:24:39] previously adopted tier
[3:24:42] structure to the proposed
[3:24:43] unitary rate.
[3:24:47] Under the previously adopted
[3:24:48] JANUARY 1st, 2027 rates single
[3:24:52] family residential customers
[3:24:52] had three tiers with separate
[3:24:53] volumetric rates for
[3:24:57] multifamily commercial,
[3:24:57] industrial and irrigation
[3:24:58] customers.
[3:25:02] Under the proposed unitary rate
[3:25:02] every customer class pays
[3:25:03] the same rate per volume of
[3:25:07] water use and this is in
[3:25:08] compliance with the patch
[3:25:12] litigation on this table.
[3:25:16] These are estimated average
[3:25:17] monthly bill impacts by
[3:25:17] customer category.
[3:25:21] To give a sense of the impact.
[3:25:22] But we do understand that each
[3:25:23] bill and its impact to our
[3:25:26] customers is unique to that
[3:25:27] customer.
[3:25:28] As you will see a single family
[3:25:32] low volume user would see an
[3:25:35] increase of about $5.62 per
[3:25:35] month or 7.1%.
[3:25:40] Conversely, a single family a
[3:25:41] high volume user would see a
[3:25:44] decrease of about $19.52 per
[3:25:48] month or 5.9%.
[3:25:48] Multifamily properties will
[3:25:52] also see a slight decrease of
[3:25:53] 2%.
[3:25:53] And it should be noted that
[3:25:58] this is on the entire ca
[3:25:58] customer and not maybe
[3:25:59] the individual.
[3:25:59] Sorry.
[3:26:02] To be clear the multifamily
[3:26:03] figure reflects the properties
[3:26:07] bill as a whole not the impact
[3:26:07] to each individual tenant.
[3:26:08] In addition irrigation
[3:26:12] customers will also see a
[3:26:12] decrease.
[3:26:16] Now we'll be briefly review our
[3:26:17] planned outreach activities
[3:26:20] from JULY through OCTOBER 2026
[3:26:21] leading up to the public
[3:26:21] hearing.
[3:26:25] State law requires us to mail a
[3:26:26] Proposition 218 notice to all
[3:26:27] affected customers in advance
[3:26:30] of the public hearing.
[3:26:31] The notice will be mailed to
[3:26:33] approximately 286,000 customers
[3:26:34] in late 20th JULY to 2026.
[3:26:39] It will be translated into ten
[3:26:39] different languages to reach
[3:26:40] our full customer base and will
[3:26:43] also be posted on the dedicated
[3:26:44] rate adjustment web page.
[3:26:48] As I just noted, we have
[3:26:49] created a dedicated web page as
[3:26:53] a central source of information
[3:26:53] for customers on this rate
[3:26:54] adjustment.
[3:26:58] The page will be updated as
[3:26:58] each key milestone in
[3:27:03] the outreach process occurs.
[3:27:03] From JULY through OCTOBER we
[3:27:08] are deploying a multi-channel
[3:27:08] approach effort so customers
[3:27:09] understand what is changing and
[3:27:12] why.
[3:27:13] That includes a simplified
[3:27:13] flier, an explainer video
[3:27:17] social media contact in a set
[3:27:18] of frequently asked questions.
[3:27:19] The goal is to reach customers
[3:27:22] through multiple touchpoints.
[3:27:23] Given the scope of this change
[3:27:24] that nearly all rate payers are
[3:27:27] affected.
[3:27:28] To conclude we are requesting
[3:27:31] the Council to accept the 2026
[3:27:35] Stantec Memorandum modifying
[3:27:35] the 2025 water cost of service
[3:27:36] study and set a public hearing
[3:27:40] date to consider approval of
[3:27:41] the transition to the unitary
[3:27:42] rate structure that will comply
[3:27:45] with the outcome of the past
[3:27:46] litigation.
[3:27:46] Thank you and we are available
[3:27:47] for any questions.
[3:27:50] All right.
[3:27:50] Thank you for the work and
[3:27:51] thank you for the presentation
[3:27:52] and we'll now turn it over to
[3:27:54] the office of the rba for
[3:27:55] comments.
[3:27:56] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And
[3:27:56] members of the Council.
[3:27:57] Good afternoon.
[3:28:00] My name is Jordan Moore with
[3:28:01] the Office of the rba.
[3:28:01] Our office has been following
[3:28:05] the Patriotic action closely
[3:28:05] and have been in frequent
[3:28:06] communication with public
[3:28:07] utilities regarding the item
[3:28:10] before you today.
[3:28:10] We thank Beauty for keeping us
[3:28:11] informed on their efforts to
[3:28:15] develop a unitary volumetric
[3:28:15] rates that comply with
[3:28:16] the court decision which is
[3:28:20] what is before you today.
[3:28:21] Rates that comply with a court
[3:28:21] order.
[3:28:25] We want to highlight that this
[3:28:25] rate adjustment is not being
[3:28:26] driven by the needs to operate
[3:28:29] the water system which are what
[3:28:29] most cases are based upon but
[3:28:30] rather this is purely about
[3:28:34] adjusting rates to comply with
[3:28:35] current legal requirements.
[3:28:39] Importantly the rates to be
[3:28:40] noticed do not increase
[3:28:41] the overall revenue requirement
[3:28:44] for the water system and will
[3:28:45] not result in Puti collecting
[3:28:46] any more total revenue than
[3:28:50] what they were projecting to
[3:28:50] them than what they were
[3:28:51] projecting to in the most
[3:28:54] recent cost of service study
[3:28:54] and rate case that council
[3:28:55] approved last year.
[3:28:58] To the extent beauty incurs
[3:28:59] additional costs in the near
[3:29:00] future those would have to be
[3:29:04] absorbed in the short term and
[3:29:04] ultimately reflected in a
[3:29:05] future rate case.
[3:29:08] But today's action is simply to
[3:29:09] set a rate case to adopt
[3:29:10] uniform rates that will bring
[3:29:13] in the same total revenue as
[3:29:14] our existing rates which is
[3:29:14] necessary to comply with
[3:29:18] the legal decision.
[3:29:18] To that end, our office
[3:29:19] recommends that Council approve
[3:29:23] the staff recommendation today.
[3:29:24] Thank you and we are available
[3:29:28] for any questions you MAY have
[3:29:28] .
[3:29:28] All right.
[3:29:29] Thank you Jordan.
[3:29:30] We always appreciate the input
[3:29:30] of the aba or the office of
[3:29:32] the aba.
[3:29:33] >> With that city clerk please
[3:29:34] proceed with public comment.
[3:29:34] Thank you.
[3:29:37] Council PRESIDENT I will note
[3:29:38] as I noted this morning that
[3:29:38] there were no organized
[3:29:39] presentations submitted for
[3:29:42] this item or any items this
[3:29:42] afternoon.
[3:29:43] Starting with Michael Schmidt.
[3:29:44] If you can please come up to
[3:29:47] the podium You will have one
[3:29:47] minute after that is allegedly
[3:29:51] Audra and then Blair Beekman.
[3:29:51] >> Hello.
[3:29:52] Good.
[3:29:52] Yes, hello.
[3:29:56] Good afternoon.
[3:29:57] Michael Sherman from District
[3:29:57] four.
[3:30:01] Nice to see you guys.
[3:30:02] I just don't like the fact that
[3:30:06] there are going to be raising
[3:30:06] the water rates for customers
[3:30:11] and even families.
[3:30:12] Um, I don't know what to say
[3:30:15] about it.
[3:30:16] >> It's not cool.
[3:30:16] Thank you.
[3:30:26] Allegedly Audra, you've given
[3:30:26] us one minute.
[3:30:29] >> Yeah, to 18 is quite an
[3:30:30] interesting dichotomy that is
[3:30:34] unique to California where it's
[3:30:35] like, you know, for taxes you
[3:30:35] need a majority to pass it.
[3:30:39] But for things like rate
[3:30:40] increases you need a majority
[3:30:40] protest.
[3:30:44] I mean that allows you guys to
[3:30:45] sit here and increase our rates
[3:30:50] like nobody's business And you
[3:30:51] know the sad thing is is that
[3:30:51] we sell water.
[3:30:52] We sit here and act like we're
[3:30:55] in a drought.
[3:30:56] But I mean if we were I would
[3:30:56] pour out half of my water and
[3:30:59] give it to somebody else.
[3:31:00] So that is proven in your
[3:31:00] tactics.
[3:31:04] And so as far as like following
[3:31:05] the Constitution, this seems I
[3:31:05] mean when this be
[3:31:09] unconstitutional when it's like
[3:31:10] you're going to need over
[3:31:10] 100,000 people to say no, we
[3:31:11] don't want this.
[3:31:15] Nobody's here.
[3:31:16] Outside of your staff Pretty
[3:31:16] much.
[3:31:17] So it's like you don't give
[3:31:20] the people the ability outside
[3:31:21] of your you know, warning them
[3:31:21] kind of.
[3:31:22] But I mean these people don't
[3:31:23] even look in their bills and
[3:31:25] see that kind of stuff.
[3:31:26] So it's extremely sad to see
[3:31:27] and to know that I is also
[3:31:29] going to be taking all of our
[3:31:30] fresh water.
[3:31:30] >> Thank you for that
[3:31:31] concluding comment.
[3:31:46] Blair Beekman Hi we're Beekman
[3:31:46] could public comment.
[3:31:50] It would be sad to think this
[3:31:51] is a backdoor way that grapes
[3:31:52] are going to continue to be
[3:31:56] increased.
[3:31:56] Mm hmm.
[3:31:57] I wish I knew how to better
[3:32:01] address this type of issue.
[3:32:01] Thank you for the presentation.
[3:32:06] I hope the public process for
[3:32:07] the future of the water board
[3:32:07] issues is starting to better
[3:32:08] develop.
[3:32:11] We're all understanding how
[3:32:12] important that can be and
[3:32:13] the important importance of
[3:32:17] the public process overall in
[3:32:17] our local practices.
[3:32:22] Good luck How the public can
[3:32:23] have input and making that
[3:32:28] available to understand this
[3:32:29] issue better and how we move
[3:32:29] forward with it.
[3:32:30] >> Thank you.
[3:32:30] Thank you.
[3:32:33] That does conclude public
[3:32:34] comment here in council
[3:32:34] chambers going to those
[3:32:37] participating remotely and we
[3:32:38] have two speakers in the queue.
[3:32:39] Michael Dyer if you can please
[3:32:39] unmute.
[3:32:42] You'll have one minute.
[3:32:42] >> Please proceed.
[3:32:43] Yes, thank you.
[3:32:43] Michael Dwyer.
[3:32:46] District two.
[3:32:46] I'm confused by
[3:32:47] the presentation especially
[3:32:51] slide number nine and ten on
[3:32:56] slide nine it's presenting that
[3:32:57] the volumetric for the lowest
[3:33:00] single family residential is
[3:33:04] $9.75 going up to 1109 That is
[3:33:05] a 14% increase.
[3:33:10] However on Slide ten all of
[3:33:15] the single family users are
[3:33:16] shown at half or less on
[3:33:16] the percentage.
[3:33:20] So on that one slide you're
[3:33:24] increasing the rate by 14%.
[3:33:24] On the other side it's half of
[3:33:25] that.
[3:33:30] So I'm confused and maybe
[3:33:30] the council is as well.
[3:33:31] >> Thank you.
[3:33:31] Thank you.
[3:33:32] Next is Zoom user if you can
[3:33:39] please the mute.
[3:33:40] >> Well Lake Mead and Lake
[3:33:41] Powell are at all time low man
[3:33:44] The water is running out of our
[3:33:44] system.
[3:33:45] Do not sell any of our water.
[3:33:50] We wait for a few months when
[3:33:50] Phenix is begging for water.
[3:33:55] Now's the time Not to sell any
[3:33:55] water.
[3:33:56] Lake Mead and Lake Powell are
[3:34:00] all time lows.
[3:34:05] That means sell high or or
[3:34:06] we're going to They're going to
[3:34:07] be begging for water.
[3:34:08] Now's not the time to sell
[3:34:12] anything.
[3:34:13] Wait till I have the bag and
[3:34:14] cry and then we'll double.
[3:34:18] We'll have we'll get double
[3:34:18] the money for it if we sell any
[3:34:19] of it.
[3:34:24] But that's the typical game And
[3:34:25] it also open the bathrooms in
[3:34:30] South Beach and come on.
[3:34:31] Well we don't need to save
[3:34:31] water.
[3:34:35] We need to flush some toilets.
[3:34:36] >> Good luck.
[3:34:40] Next is 8700 If you can please
[3:34:46] unmute join.
[3:34:51] A couple of things.
[3:34:52] First of all I don't really
[3:34:56] know this well I didn't go for
[3:34:56] it.
[3:34:57] $40 million settlement to be
[3:34:58] paid by the city.
[3:35:02] Could one of you on the council
[3:35:03] explain that to the public?
[3:35:04] That would be great And this is
[3:35:09] a legal obligation on
[3:35:10] the unitary rate.
[3:35:11] So I'll say this we have equity
[3:35:17] Excuse me That's equality and
[3:35:17] we have equity.
[3:35:20] There are two very different I
[3:35:21] learned that about three years
[3:35:21] ago.
[3:35:22] It looks like this is striving
[3:35:26] for equality of all income
[3:35:27] levels but there's not equity
[3:35:28] involved in it But it's a legal
[3:35:32] obligation So what is one to do
[3:35:33] but to obey the rules of
[3:35:33] the law?
[3:35:39] So best of luck with this and
[3:35:40] of course looking and setting
[3:35:40] the hearing date.
[3:35:41] Thank you.
[3:35:41] Well, thank you, Tony.
[3:35:44] And then Natalie Rashidi is
[3:35:45] currently the last one with her
[3:35:49] Henry's Tony Academy Before you
[3:35:50] just hear me, you sound a
[3:35:55] little far away.
[3:36:01] >> Once again.
[3:36:02] >> But we can't hear.
[3:36:02] We can't hear you.
[3:36:07] Make you out.
[3:36:08] >> Please proceed.
[3:36:08] Okay.
[3:36:09] I just wanted to say I
[3:36:13] registering a neutral position
[3:36:14] on this particular topic.
[3:36:19] I feel like it's probably a
[3:36:20] necessary evil.
[3:36:20] But while we're on
[3:36:25] the conversation as of this
[3:36:25] topic I noticed in one of
[3:36:26] the agenda topics earlier today
[3:36:27] one of the consent items was
[3:36:31] talking about some of
[3:36:32] the chemicals that were to be
[3:36:33] purchased to be put into this
[3:36:33] water.
[3:36:34] I hope that we can have a
[3:36:38] discussion about some of
[3:36:38] the things that we're putting
[3:36:39] into the water for water that
[3:36:40] succeeded And I know that I
[3:36:43] need to get to that for
[3:36:44] different reasons with
[3:36:44] different things.
[3:36:47] But I do also know that in 2011
[3:36:47] we were the last city in one of
[3:36:54] the last major cities in the us
[3:36:55] to Florida on water And I know
[3:36:55] eating our water is not a good
[3:37:00] thing for all kinds of
[3:37:01] independent studies about it.
[3:37:01] So yeah that's because again
[3:37:02] you not only of this what this
[3:37:06] what the consequences of this
[3:37:07] tax would be but also what what
[3:37:11] it entails by putting your time
[3:37:12] has concluded.
[3:37:12] >> Natalie if you can please
[3:37:17] unmute.
[3:37:17] Hi.
[3:37:18] Hi Natalie here That slide was
[3:37:19] confusing.
[3:37:23] I agree with that gentleman.
[3:37:23] I was kind of confused and
[3:37:24] anything I'm going to repeat it
[3:37:29] anything that we do who is to
[3:37:30] benefit the most when we make
[3:37:34] these decisions?
[3:37:35] >> That is what's most
[3:37:35] important to me.
[3:37:36] What are the intentions behind
[3:37:41] the people We do business with
[3:37:42] and how does it benefit our
[3:37:46] city and how does it benefit
[3:37:46] the people?
[3:37:47] >> Thank you.
[3:37:47] Thank you.
[3:37:48] That does conclude public
[3:37:48] comment on this item.
[3:37:49] All right.
[3:37:52] Thank you, City Clerk I'll kick
[3:37:53] things off.
[3:37:58] So I'll start out by thanking
[3:37:59] you, Lisa and the Public
[3:38:00] Utilities Department for
[3:38:00] preparing the updated analysis
[3:38:04] and proposal.
[3:38:05] Thank the city attorney's
[3:38:05] office for the very good fight
[3:38:06] that in the end we didn't
[3:38:10] prevail on.
[3:38:11] But I appreciate the legal work
[3:38:11] that was done to defend
[3:38:12] the city and more importantly
[3:38:16] defend the ratepayers.
[3:38:17] Thank you Jordan on the aba for
[3:38:21] your analysis.
[3:38:22] And as we've heard, unlike past
[3:38:23] rate changes this comes at
[3:38:28] the direction of the courts and
[3:38:29] ties our hands.
[3:38:29] I can't emphasize enough and I
[3:38:30] hope this come across in
[3:38:34] the presentation.
[3:38:35] This was not about pd but it
[3:38:36] was about the courts
[3:38:36] overturning how all water
[3:38:40] districts and jurisdictions set
[3:38:41] water rates.
[3:38:41] And I appreciate that.
[3:38:45] If I could find it real
[3:38:46] quickly.
[3:38:46] The dissenting opinion at
[3:38:52] the appellate level warned that
[3:38:53] the majority opinion exceeded
[3:38:53] traditional engineering utility
[3:38:54] practices and could make tiered
[3:38:57] water rates extremely difficult
[3:38:58] for agencies statewide to
[3:38:58] defend.
[3:39:03] Again, with every jurisdiction
[3:39:03] every water district does.
[3:39:04] The courts decided we've
[3:39:09] settled with the courts.
[3:39:09] We got in their direction.
[3:39:10] I personally remain committed
[3:39:15] to pursuing all options to keep
[3:39:16] water rates and water bills low
[3:39:17] for San Diego And so when you
[3:39:18] use less you should be able to
[3:39:18] pay less.
[3:39:21] Again, the courts thought
[3:39:21] otherwise.
[3:39:22] As for today's item, our action
[3:39:27] is not about adopting water
[3:39:28] rates.
[3:39:28] That's why there's probably
[3:39:33] nobody here to either object or
[3:39:33] protest this.
[3:39:34] This is out of date OCTOBER 6th
[3:39:39] That will be the time for
[3:39:40] people to register their
[3:39:40] protest or objection.
[3:39:45] Our action today is primarily
[3:39:45] to set that hearing date of
[3:39:46] OCTOBER 6th and approve
[3:39:47] the public notice to be mailed
[3:39:51] out.
[3:39:52] So I want to thank pd staff for
[3:39:53] working with my office on
[3:39:58] the public notice to make sure
[3:39:58] it is helpful and clear to
[3:39:59] the public as possible while
[3:40:03] complying with Prop 218 because
[3:40:04] we need to follow that law
[3:40:04] which by the way was adopted by
[3:40:08] a vote of the people and that's
[3:40:09] what we have to live by.
[3:40:15] So with that I will move
[3:40:16] the staff recommendation and
[3:40:16] I'll turn it over to
[3:40:21] Councilmember Eli Rivera.
[3:40:22] The PRESIDENT Can we put
[3:40:23] the slide that had
[3:40:25] the different the impacts with
[3:40:31] the changes portfolio?
[3:41:00] No thank you.
[3:41:05] The next one yeah I appreciate
[3:41:10] the work on this and the effort
[3:41:11] to help us understand this help
[3:41:17] the public understand it.
[3:41:18] I just I think this is really
[3:41:22] an important slide because it
[3:41:23] and some of the public was
[3:41:28] picking up on this This is a
[3:41:29] overtly anti equitable ruling
[3:41:34] that requires us to to then you
[3:41:35] know implement in this
[3:41:35] direction.
[3:41:36] So you know when I think of
[3:41:40] single family low user I'm
[3:41:46] thinking about a single senior
[3:41:47] maybe a couple that is using
[3:41:47] very little water They're being
[3:41:52] very conscious about that.
[3:41:53] And on the other end of
[3:41:59] the spectrum, Pat's a wealthy
[3:42:04] owner of a large home that has
[3:42:05] made choices to continue using
[3:42:05] significant some significant
[3:42:10] amounts of water despite
[3:42:11] the impacts on the environment
[3:42:16] and that wealthy individual now
[3:42:17] receive receiving a reduction
[3:42:22] in their bill while the water
[3:42:23] conscious senior has to pay
[3:42:28] more and that makes me angry.
[3:42:28] I think it should make most
[3:42:35] folks who are trying to save
[3:42:35] money just try to get by And in
[3:42:39] this city and in a state this
[3:42:40] is a state wide ruling to make
[3:42:51] everyone angry So Katherine was
[3:42:52] trying to get to this just to
[3:42:53] make sure we're 110 explicit
[3:42:53] about it.
[3:42:55] >> There's nothing that we
[3:42:56] believe we can do about this
[3:42:57] short of an amendment of
[3:43:01] the California Constitution.
[3:43:02] >> Is that accurate?
[3:43:02] Yes, because we've exhausted
[3:43:03] all legal remedies in this is a
[3:43:08] is a part of the state
[3:43:08] constitution And the only thing
[3:43:09] to change that is a vote of
[3:43:13] the people right.
[3:43:14] So I just I can't emphasize
[3:43:19] this enough While marketing
[3:43:25] behind something like Prop 218
[3:43:31] is it is attractive to too many
[3:43:37] people the implications are
[3:43:37] situations like this where
[3:43:38] we're prohibited from not even
[3:43:44] just from being fair but even
[3:43:45] comment using common sense and
[3:43:46] how we charge folks for
[3:43:49] something like water usage for
[3:43:50] the impacts that users have on
[3:43:55] our system and what that means
[3:43:56] for us as a society.
[3:44:00] So it's just worth remembering
[3:44:01] the Prop 218 is the result of
[3:44:02] anti-government radicals trying
[3:44:06] to drown trying to tie
[3:44:12] the hands of local government
[3:44:13] from providing the services
[3:44:18] that people depend on.
[3:44:19] And this is just I think this
[3:44:19] is really unfortunate and I
[3:44:24] appreciate the dissenting
[3:44:25] opinion here but I very much
[3:44:30] think it requires all of us to
[3:44:31] take a look at just the ways
[3:44:35] that policies that are guys as
[3:44:36] protections for taxpayers are
[3:44:37] really just the opposite and
[3:44:42] make it more difficult for for
[3:44:42] local government to serve
[3:44:43] the public well and that you
[3:44:48] know I'll go off the soap box
[3:44:49] here in a moment the resident
[3:44:50] But you know it's water rates
[3:44:53] It's also the ability to tell
[3:44:54] the public what we'd like to
[3:44:59] dedicate revenue for and taxes
[3:45:00] but that requiring a two thirds
[3:45:00] threshold instead of a simple
[3:45:01] majority the thing that would
[3:45:05] actually provide voters more
[3:45:06] trust and their ability in our
[3:45:07] ability to use the tax dollars
[3:45:13] that we receive and the exact
[3:45:13] way that they'd like them used.
[3:45:14] So all of this comes before us
[3:45:17] with the same radical
[3:45:23] anti-government think tank and
[3:45:23] organization that put us in
[3:45:24] this in this bind here That's
[3:45:29] extremely unfortunate And I
[3:45:30] will second the motion because
[3:45:36] we don't have a choice.
[3:45:36] >> All right.
[3:45:37] Thank you, Council member Ella
[3:45:37] Rivera.
[3:45:41] And again, we do have a motion
[3:45:42] by myself to move the staff
[3:45:43] recommendation, the second by
[3:45:43] council member Eli Rivera.
[3:45:44] We'll go next to Councilmember
[3:45:47] Bond.
[3:45:47] Woolverton Thank you very much.
[3:45:48] Thank you for the presentation
[3:45:48] on this.
[3:45:53] I have some questions as well
[3:45:54] and I'll have comments on
[3:45:55] the court decision which is not
[3:45:59] the water department's Civil
[3:46:00] the two slide slides nine and
[3:46:05] ten that some of our commenters
[3:46:06] asked about is it 14% and it's
[3:46:06] 7%?
[3:46:07] Can you explain the difference?
[3:46:10] Yes.
[3:46:11] Slide nine only focus on
[3:46:12] the volumetric charges which is
[3:46:12] only one component of
[3:46:16] everybody's bill because that
[3:46:16] is what is changing
[3:46:17] significantly in things like
[3:46:18] ten includes both volumetric
[3:46:22] and fixed charges.
[3:46:23] So that is why there's a
[3:46:24] difference.
[3:46:24] So it's kind of reduced down
[3:46:25] because there's not that many
[3:46:28] changes happening on it.
[3:46:29] The Prop 218 notice gives all
[3:46:30] these details by both fixed and
[3:46:35] volumetric rates.
[3:46:36] Okay.
[3:46:36] Yeah hopefully that explained
[3:46:37] it for the court.
[3:46:40] It is very complicated but
[3:46:41] the water rate is not the only
[3:46:41] portion of bill so that's why
[3:46:42] it's not impacting it in
[3:46:46] the same way.
[3:46:47] I also have a question about
[3:46:50] could you bring up slide 8 or 9
[3:46:56] or 10 to 1 please?
[3:46:56] Thank you.
[3:47:03] So in the population the class
[3:47:03] that was certified was all
[3:47:09] single family homeowners or all
[3:47:10] single family users single
[3:47:15] family residential customers
[3:47:15] have the exact wording And so
[3:47:21] why are we now lumping in those
[3:47:22] rates with multifamily and
[3:47:22] urban customers Because they
[3:47:26] weren't part of the class.
[3:47:27] Yes, I'll talk about that and
[3:47:28] then the attorneys can jump in
[3:47:28] as needed.
[3:47:33] The court made a very broad
[3:47:33] discussion specifically as it
[3:47:34] relates to something called a
[3:47:35] peaking factor or a demand
[3:47:38] factor.
[3:47:39] So basically this looks at how
[3:47:40] customers deviate from
[3:47:40] the average.
[3:47:45] So if you have a large swing
[3:47:45] from your most extreme users to
[3:47:46] the average, you have a high
[3:47:47] peaking factor.
[3:47:51] They specifically said unless
[3:47:52] you had really clear data on
[3:47:52] peaking factors like at the as
[3:47:53] we've described in briefings
[3:47:57] like hour by hour that you
[3:47:58] didn't have enough to meet
[3:47:58] proposition to 18 factors that
[3:48:03] was very specific by the court
[3:48:04] and saying that that was not a
[3:48:07] rational usage under 218
[3:48:08] because those factors were used
[3:48:09] to differentiate between
[3:48:13] classes like single family
[3:48:13] residence, multifamily and
[3:48:14] irrigation in order to be fully
[3:48:19] compliant with the ruling we
[3:48:20] needed to remove the peaking
[3:48:21] factors from from all customer
[3:48:25] classes And then again
[3:48:25] the attorneys can step in on
[3:48:31] that specifics I echo Adam's
[3:48:31] statements.
[3:48:32] >> It really is that they
[3:48:36] attacked our methodology and so
[3:48:37] we can't just adjust it in
[3:48:38] the single family residential
[3:48:38] class because it also
[3:48:43] implicates the other classes as
[3:48:43] well.
[3:48:44] So if we adjust it we have to
[3:48:48] adjust it across the board And
[3:48:49] if not I think that would
[3:48:50] subject us to another challenge
[3:48:51] to those rates based on
[3:48:58] the decision.
[3:48:58] >> Okay.
[3:48:59] Is there a different way we
[3:49:03] could in irrigation customers I
[3:49:04] assume watering lawns, golf
[3:49:05] courses, things like that I
[3:49:05] mean that's completely
[3:49:10] different Use than a single
[3:49:11] family home that's using it to
[3:49:11] wash their dishes and take a
[3:49:16] shower So in order to comply
[3:49:16] this was why we made
[3:49:17] the decision to go to unitary
[3:49:22] right in order to comply we
[3:49:22] would need two sets of data
[3:49:23] points on the customer site.
[3:49:24] We would need to know their
[3:49:27] usage every single user every
[3:49:28] single minute of every single
[3:49:29] day And then on our side we
[3:49:33] would need to know expenses and
[3:49:34] when we incur those expenses at
[3:49:39] each point of the day and then
[3:49:40] we would have to allocate cost
[3:49:41] between those two different
[3:49:41] sites Essentially the only
[3:49:45] thing we probably come up with
[3:49:46] is a 286,000 customer rate case
[3:49:51] because we'd have to do rates
[3:49:51] by every single person.
[3:49:52] There was no way we could
[3:49:53] identify it in regards to
[3:49:57] meeting the court's level of
[3:49:58] proof which is why
[3:49:58] the dissenting judge says
[3:49:59] you're making it impossible
[3:50:05] across the state.
[3:50:13] Okay.
[3:50:13] >> And today we're just we're
[3:50:14] just setting the date for
[3:50:15] the hearing So I could still
[3:50:19] argue my points on this at
[3:50:19] the hearing.
[3:50:19] Okay.
[3:50:20] Thank you.
[3:50:20] You can take the slide down.
[3:50:21] All right.
[3:50:24] Because I understand your
[3:50:25] argument and I'm trying to
[3:50:30] comply but I think I'd like to
[3:50:31] dig into that a little more
[3:50:32] because it just seems so unfair
[3:50:36] to charge the senior citizen
[3:50:37] who's using a little bit of
[3:50:38] water at the same rate as
[3:50:42] the golf course irrigator.
[3:50:43] There's completely different
[3:50:43] customers.
[3:50:48] So and because the Court in
[3:50:49] order to do that that's where
[3:50:54] I'm a little uneasy about it
[3:50:55] But given that we are being
[3:50:55] forced to do this by the court
[3:51:00] I will support the item today.
[3:51:01] I don't know if I will support
[3:51:02] in OCTOBER the rate I don't
[3:51:02] think I quite agree with you.
[3:51:06] I will have time to dig into
[3:51:06] that.
[3:51:07] I do understand we do have to
[3:51:08] notice the hearing though to
[3:51:14] comply with the court order and
[3:51:15] I don't think any of the judges
[3:51:16] are listening to this but maybe
[3:51:17] they are or maybe their court
[3:51:17] folks are.
[3:51:21] >> But the Pat versus City of
[3:51:21] Claims decision undermines one
[3:51:22] of the most effective tools
[3:51:26] that cities have to encourage
[3:51:27] water conservation which is
[3:51:31] pricing that rewards people who
[3:51:32] use less water And by striking
[3:51:37] down our tiered water rates,
[3:51:38] the court's decision makes it
[3:51:39] so much harder for cities
[3:51:39] because this decision applies
[3:51:44] to all cities in California.
[3:51:45] This is not just a San Diego
[3:51:45] issue.
[3:51:46] Other cities were facing
[3:51:46] litigation too.
[3:51:49] So now none of us can use
[3:51:50] pricing to incentivize
[3:51:54] conservation.
[3:51:55] So instead of allowing us to
[3:52:00] allow lower volume users to
[3:52:01] benefit from lower rates, we're
[3:52:01] being forced to do a single
[3:52:05] tiered pricing structure for
[3:52:06] everybody no matter how much
[3:52:06] they use.
[3:52:11] And this is so backwards.
[3:52:12] You know the cost of living in
[3:52:12] California is already
[3:52:17] incredibly high and we
[3:52:17] shouldn't be charging customers
[3:52:22] the same rate as high use
[3:52:23] customers And if we're serious
[3:52:23] about protecting our water
[3:52:27] resources and lowering costs
[3:52:28] for our residents, local
[3:52:28] governments should have
[3:52:29] the flexibility to set tiered
[3:52:30] water rates to incentivize
[3:52:33] people to use less water.
[3:52:34] But since the California Court
[3:52:38] of Appeals and the Supreme
[3:52:39] Court have interpreted Prop 218
[3:52:39] differently and disagree with
[3:52:43] every city in California, we
[3:52:44] now have to do this.
[3:52:46] And I just think it's
[3:52:52] completely unfair and wrong.
[3:52:53] >> So I mean we usually set our
[3:52:57] our lobbying goals at
[3:52:58] the beginning of the year.
[3:52:59] But I would encourage us to ask
[3:53:03] our Sacramento lobbying firms
[3:53:03] to start talking about this.
[3:53:09] I mean maybe Prop 218 is a
[3:53:10] constitutional amendment to
[3:53:10] the voters of California to
[3:53:13] have to vote on it.
[3:53:14] But there's also lots of
[3:53:15] interpretation to be had and
[3:53:15] possibly the state of
[3:53:19] California legislature could
[3:53:20] write a law to help conserve
[3:53:21] water again in the state.
[3:53:25] So just I'll leave it up to
[3:53:25] them.
[3:53:27] My last question is about
[3:53:28] the $40 million settlement and
[3:53:29] how that's going to work
[3:53:33] because at the end of the day
[3:53:34] that just gets built in to
[3:53:34] the rate increases, right?
[3:53:35] Correct.
[3:53:39] At this point in time even
[3:53:39] though we are we are needing to
[3:53:40] do a $40 million settlement
[3:53:43] which is in addition to what we
[3:53:44] previously identified, we
[3:53:44] decided not to ask for
[3:53:48] additional increases.
[3:53:49] We are going to have to take
[3:53:50] some potential impacts on our
[3:53:54] code to offset that increase
[3:53:54] because at this point in time
[3:53:55] we're not asking for anything
[3:53:58] Obviously will recover that
[3:53:59] when we come forward with
[3:54:00] the next rate setting.
[3:54:00] I do not have the details
[3:54:04] specifically on the cip
[3:54:05] projects that are being
[3:54:05] deferred.
[3:54:06] I've asked the team to go and
[3:54:06] do that detail because we need
[3:54:09] to have we just entered
[3:54:10] the fiscal year 26.
[3:54:10] We want to have updated
[3:54:14] information we'll have that way
[3:54:14] in advance of the OCTOBER
[3:54:15] hearing and the $40 million is
[3:54:19] refunding property owners who
[3:54:20] use more water and we're
[3:54:24] charged a higher rate.
[3:54:24] It's three components.
[3:54:28] It obviously pays for
[3:54:29] the plaintiffs attorneys and
[3:54:34] then also provides refunds for
[3:54:34] the impacted customers.
[3:54:34] Yes.
[3:54:35] Okay.
[3:54:39] And the court is in line with
[3:54:40] all of this and that is still
[3:54:40] subject to being going forward
[3:54:44] before the courts It is
[3:54:44] expected this fall.
[3:54:45] Okay.
[3:54:45] So we have to authorize it and
[3:54:46] then the court will review it.
[3:54:46] >> Okay.
[3:54:48] Got it.
[3:54:54] Okay.
[3:54:55] Well thank you for the work on
[3:54:55] this.
[3:54:55] Again, I will reserve more
[3:54:58] questions about the actual
[3:54:59] dollar amount of the rate but
[3:55:00] since we are being forced by
[3:55:04] the California courts to set a
[3:55:04] single rate that's why we have
[3:55:05] to have this hearing and our
[3:55:09] hands are tied and I will I'll
[3:55:10] vote to set the hearing.
[3:55:10] Thank you.
[3:55:11] All right.
[3:55:11] Thank you.
[3:55:13] Council member of I'm Wolpert
[3:55:14] we'll go next to council member
[3:55:21] Foster thank you thank you for
[3:55:26] the presentation um this is
[3:55:31] quite concerning for me in just
[3:55:35] listening to public comment and
[3:55:35] I appreciate the technical
[3:55:40] approach in this but I think in
[3:55:40] listening to the public comment
[3:55:41] I think there's several other
[3:55:42] questions that I think are
[3:55:44] relevant to this discussion And
[3:55:49] as we talk about impact based
[3:55:49] on the way it's presented, I
[3:55:50] don't think folks can truly
[3:55:53] understand exactly what's
[3:55:54] taking place.
[3:55:55] And I just want to look at this
[3:55:58] from the standpoint of what we
[3:55:59] just went through with trash,
[3:55:59] right?
[3:56:00] District four was hit pretty
[3:56:04] hard with trash because of our
[3:56:08] single family to multifamily
[3:56:08] ratio.
[3:56:12] We were hit hard And I'm
[3:56:13] assuming if you can answer
[3:56:17] this, is this the same type of
[3:56:18] impact that we are seeing kind
[3:56:22] of in the same relation of
[3:56:26] trash where District four one
[3:56:26] of the communities that has
[3:56:30] historically been resource
[3:56:35] disinvested that we are going
[3:56:36] to see the major impact of this
[3:56:36] result.
[3:56:39] Is that fair?
[3:56:39] Have we looked at that?
[3:56:44] Do we understand that?
[3:56:45] So it's a little bit different
[3:56:45] in regards to being a single
[3:56:49] family versus multifamily
[3:56:49] because within the single
[3:56:50] family are the high end users.
[3:56:53] So if we look at it in regards
[3:56:54] to where high and high volume
[3:56:58] users are, yes it impacts it's
[3:56:59] benefiting the high volume
[3:57:03] users and it is impacting
[3:57:04] greatly the lower volume users.
[3:57:08] And where do we typically find
[3:57:09] our large smaller lots like our
[3:57:13] large volume users?
[3:57:13] >> Yeah.
[3:57:14] Where do we find those?
[3:57:18] I think everybody has a
[3:57:18] everybody has I do not have
[3:57:19] the specific okay well let's
[3:57:20] just take whoever filed
[3:57:22] the lawsuit whoever did this.
[3:57:23] Where are they at?
[3:57:27] Yes, they are in Council
[3:57:28] district two there in two.
[3:57:32] >> But what what area District
[3:57:32] two is spread out.
[3:57:33] Right.
[3:57:33] How big is their lot?
[3:57:35] How big is their home?
[3:57:40] >> What is it?
[3:57:40] >> Yes.
[3:57:41] So it is a larger lot compared
[3:57:45] to in the average size.
[3:57:45] Yes.
[3:57:49] What does that mean 20,000ft?
[3:57:52] What is it Do we know ten
[3:57:55] The one thing I would would add
[3:57:56] Councilmember one of the key
[3:57:56] things that came up as we were
[3:58:00] going through this process it
[3:58:01] doesn't matter how people are
[3:58:01] using the water, we have to
[3:58:05] look at what that how much
[3:58:05] water they're using.
[3:58:06] So if they choose to leave
[3:58:08] their water running on their
[3:58:09] faucet 20 473 65 or if they
[3:58:13] choose to use it outdoor for
[3:58:13] irrigation we can't tell and
[3:58:14] it's not part of our thing And
[3:58:15] the courts have said that we
[3:58:18] can't differentiate between
[3:58:18] them.
[3:58:19] We can differentiate between
[3:58:23] how much people use versus how
[3:58:24] much it costs us to do that.
[3:58:24] And so while your questions are
[3:58:27] very valid about how people are
[3:58:28] using their water, it's not
[3:58:29] something under 218 that we can
[3:58:33] consider We can consider how
[3:58:33] much it costs to deliver a unit
[3:58:34] of water to a customer at their
[3:58:34] parcel.
[3:58:38] I'm not asking you what to
[3:58:38] consider for 218.
[3:58:42] I'm asking for the relevant
[3:58:43] information on the impacts of
[3:58:47] what we are experiencing today
[3:58:48] with this item.
[3:58:52] I think that if I understand
[3:58:53] public comment and what was
[3:58:54] being asked, I think that's
[3:58:57] what's being asked right And
[3:58:58] that's where I think we missed
[3:59:01] the mark when we talk about
[3:59:02] communication because I'm very
[3:59:04] concerned on the communication
[3:59:09] side of this.
[3:59:10] Councilmember if I MAY, would
[3:59:11] it be helpful to you if we
[3:59:14] provided a breakdown by
[3:59:15] the council district office
[3:59:19] like typical users and high
[3:59:20] users Was that to the kind of
[3:59:21] information I think that would
[3:59:21] be helpful not only for this
[3:59:24] council but for the public
[3:59:25] because I would like to think
[3:59:28] if we are truly following to 18
[3:59:29] they have a decision to make.
[3:59:30] There's a way that they need to
[3:59:33] respond.
[3:59:34] Right.
[3:59:34] And then I'm going to ask
[3:59:35] the city attorney this is
[3:59:37] litigation We're going through
[3:59:38] prior to 18.
[3:59:42] So what happens if the public
[3:59:42] responds and says no?
[3:59:46] Where does that leave us since
[3:59:51] we have to follow 218 we will
[3:59:52] be happy to give you get get
[3:59:52] that information well in
[3:59:56] advance of before we come back
[3:59:57] to you for consideration, what
[3:59:57] happens if this is not
[3:59:58] approved?
[4:00:01] I think it was your other
[4:00:01] question.
[4:00:04] My question is we are following
[4:00:04] 8 to 18 process The way that
[4:00:10] process works And I don't know
[4:00:10] if the public truly understands
[4:00:13] this The way to 18 works this
[4:00:14] is where they truly have an
[4:00:18] opportunity to take things away
[4:00:18] from the council If they
[4:00:23] respond and there's enough
[4:00:24] protest that come in it's my
[4:00:27] understanding they take it out
[4:00:28] of our hands, right?
[4:00:29] So this is one time where I
[4:00:32] truly feel that the public is
[4:00:37] truly the power is in their
[4:00:37] hands.
[4:00:38] What happens if they come back
[4:00:42] in and we get the proper
[4:00:42] threshold from the public?
[4:00:47] This is no you can't even have
[4:00:47] the public hearing that would
[4:00:48] happen.
[4:00:51] >> That would be what it is.
[4:00:52] You can't even vote on it if
[4:00:53] enough protests are received
[4:00:56] And what happens in regards to
[4:00:57] what got us here
[4:01:01] the litigation, the change in
[4:01:02] rates, what happens in the risk
[4:01:07] is in regard yes or no.
[4:01:08] >> That's what I'm trying to
[4:01:10] find out.
[4:01:11] That's why I say what how what
[4:01:12] and how we communicate is very,
[4:01:15] very important.
[4:01:16] That's why I'm asking this
[4:01:20] question What happens?
[4:01:21] Councilmember Foster I don't
[4:01:25] think that's a tested area of
[4:01:26] the law where a court has
[4:01:27] ordered you to change your
[4:01:30] rates to unitary and then there
[4:01:31] were enough protests from
[4:01:32] the public to to stop that
[4:01:34] change.
[4:01:35] I think we could still run
[4:01:36] the risk of being in contempt
[4:01:39] of court for not complying but
[4:01:40] we would offer that as a
[4:01:41] defense of attempted to comply
[4:01:44] But we were stopped But it's
[4:01:44] untested.
[4:01:45] We probably wouldn't know how
[4:01:53] that would result but we still
[4:01:54] have to go through this 218
[4:01:57] process.
[4:01:57] Correct?
[4:01:58] And the courts indicated that
[4:02:02] and understand that wasn't part
[4:02:02] of this discussion.
[4:02:07] >> Yes, we're currently under a
[4:02:07] court order to comply with
[4:02:08] imposing unitary rates.
[4:02:12] We have stipulated to the date
[4:02:13] of JANUARY.
[4:02:13] >> That's not that's not my
[4:02:14] question.
[4:02:16] Are they understand to 18 in
[4:02:17] the process And they again when
[4:02:19] we talk about what's tested and
[4:02:24] what's not tested, that's
[4:02:25] probably up for debate to be
[4:02:25] honest.
[4:02:28] I'll take that as a no.
[4:02:29] Okay.
[4:02:34] Um I'm not going to vote
[4:02:34] affirmative for this.
[4:02:38] I think this is um unfortunate.
[4:02:42] Um I think it speaks to when I
[4:02:43] say every day our system is
[4:02:47] flawed goes back to when I say
[4:02:48] certain things happen.
[4:02:51] It's intentional.
[4:02:52] There's a reason why district
[4:02:57] four is under resourced.
[4:02:57] It's a system issue.
[4:02:58] I mean, quite honestly, I'm
[4:03:01] disgusted.
[4:03:06] Um, Chris um, Kota, I do think
[4:03:07] this comes down to um,
[4:03:10] communication and how we
[4:03:11] communicate to the public and I
[4:03:15] think this is a good
[4:03:15] opportunity to let the public
[4:03:16] know they have more power than
[4:03:19] we do is we release these 218
[4:03:20] documents and I don't think
[4:03:24] they truly, truly understand
[4:03:25] and how significant that is
[4:03:30] because this is this is
[4:03:34] unacceptable And yet we have
[4:03:40] someone from a what do you
[4:03:40] what's the term we use an elite
[4:03:41] And I don't know I don't even
[4:03:43] know the term wealthy wealthy.
[4:03:47] There you go.
[4:03:48] Who who who is utilizing
[4:03:52] the system to their advantage
[4:03:53] And I think that's a very, very
[4:03:57] unfortunate and I really don't
[4:04:02] like the fact that we have to
[4:04:03] sit here and say well that's
[4:04:07] what the courts told us to do.
[4:04:08] Um but okay I'll leave that
[4:04:11] there.
[4:04:12] Council PRESIDENT Thank you and
[4:04:13] thank you for the work on this
[4:04:16] but I'm really interested to
[4:04:16] see what the communication plan
[4:04:17] is.
[4:04:21] I hope you put your 218 package
[4:04:21] together Very well.
[4:04:22] Move that protest form to
[4:04:25] the front not the back buried
[4:04:26] in the back.
[4:04:27] It should be in a different
[4:04:30] color, a different hot pink
[4:04:30] whatever you want to do it in
[4:04:34] So it is highly visible and
[4:04:35] folks return those um because
[4:04:39] this is this is just ridiculous
[4:04:40] So thank you.
[4:04:40] All right Thank you
[4:04:41] Councilmember Foster will go
[4:04:44] next to council member Campbell
[4:04:45] thank you thank you for
[4:04:49] the comments of my colleagues
[4:04:50] First of all I'd just like to
[4:04:51] say that one other thing we can
[4:04:55] do is always remember that we
[4:04:56] need to take into account who
[4:04:59] in the heck are we voting for
[4:05:04] for judges There are two judges
[4:05:08] that ruled against common sense
[4:05:08] .
[4:05:09] >> They didn't care about
[4:05:09] the volume of water used.
[4:05:13] They only cared about the rate
[4:05:17] being the same no matter what
[4:05:18] volume used it.
[4:05:23] It's crazy Big commercial users
[4:05:23] of water use more volume and
[4:05:28] you pay more than single family
[4:05:33] homes or homes that house
[4:05:33] people in an apartment.
[4:05:38] It's just people need to get a
[4:05:38] break were overcharges on just
[4:05:42] about everything Anyway I think
[4:05:43] that we need to find out who
[4:05:47] are these two judges who voted
[4:05:47] in the majority on this Of
[4:05:48] the three judges in
[4:05:52] the appellate court and take
[4:05:52] them to task and only
[4:05:56] the voters can do that And then
[4:05:57] we also have recall as you
[4:05:58] know, in this democracy what
[4:06:02] were some what's left of it.
[4:06:03] So that's what we need to do.
[4:06:06] We need to do what you suggest,
[4:06:11] Councilmember Foster We need to
[4:06:11] talk to the public about using
[4:06:16] common sense in judicial
[4:06:17] matters And we need to make
[4:06:21] sure that the judges we elect
[4:06:22] have common sense and don't get
[4:06:25] so tied up in the minutia of
[4:06:26] every little dot and cross t in
[4:06:30] a in a amendment to the state
[4:06:31] constitution that they lose
[4:06:35] sight of the real question
[4:06:36] which they obviously did in
[4:06:39] this case.
[4:06:40] Obviously if you own a golf
[4:06:41] course and you're sprinkling it
[4:06:45] constantly to keep it green
[4:06:46] you're using more volume than
[4:06:49] the families use.
[4:06:50] So there should be a difference
[4:06:54] And the for some reason this
[4:06:58] court did not see that And
[4:06:59] the Supreme Court refused to
[4:07:00] even take the case.
[4:07:00] Isn't that correct?
[4:07:04] They didn't even take up
[4:07:04] the case.
[4:07:05] >> We have to ask our Supreme
[4:07:08] Court judges what is wrong with
[4:07:09] you that you didn't take this
[4:07:09] up?
[4:07:10] Obviously on the face of it it
[4:07:13] makes absolutely no sense.
[4:07:14] Do you want people to to quit
[4:07:19] using too much water so that we
[4:07:19] can have enough when drought
[4:07:23] occurs or what?
[4:07:24] You know?
[4:07:25] So anyway I think is just I
[4:07:28] agree with all my colleagues
[4:07:29] This is not and I would like to
[4:07:34] vote today in order to bring it
[4:07:34] to the public's attention So
[4:07:37] they will vote OCTOBER 6th And
[4:07:42] in the meantime we can find out
[4:07:42] who exactly are those two
[4:07:45] judges and we can find out
[4:07:46] who's the third one and support
[4:07:47] them because they were the only
[4:07:50] one that made sense.
[4:07:51] And we can also ask our Supreme
[4:07:55] Court justices to reconsider.
[4:07:56] I don't know if that's legal or
[4:07:56] not.
[4:07:57] Can we ask Supreme Court to
[4:08:00] reconsider an appeal?
[4:08:05] Not at this time.
[4:08:06] >> So it looks like we're stuck
[4:08:09] with the vote The recall and
[4:08:10] the public vote on OCTOBER 6th.
[4:08:14] >> Yes or no on the rates.
[4:08:19] So I, I really appreciate
[4:08:20] everything you said And we're
[4:08:22] all in the same terrible boat.
[4:08:27] But thank you so much.
[4:08:28] We'll go over to council member
[4:08:33] Eli Rivera.
[4:08:34] Thank you Class PRESIDENT I
[4:08:34] forgot to ask this earlier but
[4:08:38] I'm almost glad I did it
[4:08:38] because my colleagues had a
[4:08:39] chance to ask the questions
[4:08:40] that they've asked to make
[4:08:42] the points that they made.
[4:08:43] This makes non rate revenue
[4:08:46] that much more important since
[4:08:47] we can't use the rates
[4:08:55] themselves to reward or even
[4:08:56] account for the better behavior
[4:09:01] of folks non rate revenue
[4:09:05] becomes a tool that we can use
[4:09:06] to keep that to keep costs down
[4:09:10] but to help people help
[4:09:15] mitigate the impacts of higher
[4:09:15] rates for folks.
[4:09:16] We had a conversation about
[4:09:20] getting to work in a much more
[4:09:20] assertive way last fall about
[4:09:24] on the utilization of public
[4:09:29] utilities assets.
[4:09:29] Can you give us an update on
[4:09:30] where that stands and
[4:09:34] the progress being made So that
[4:09:34] if these rates do go into
[4:09:38] effect we'll be able to utilize
[4:09:39] non rate revenue for folks?
[4:09:40] >> Yes, and we do agree in
[4:09:44] regards to working towards on
[4:09:45] rate revenue to offset
[4:09:48] the impact on our rate payers
[4:09:53] as we committed last fall.
[4:09:54] We have made progress on moving
[4:09:56] forward in regards to 17 active
[4:09:57] negotiations as it relates to
[4:09:58] our leases and updating those
[4:09:58] leases.
[4:10:02] So we can get additional
[4:10:02] revenue in that way.
[4:10:03] We've had conversations in
[4:10:06] regards to opportunities not
[4:10:07] only with community power but
[4:10:08] others so that way we can see
[4:10:08] they're still developing their
[4:10:11] information So we're working
[4:10:11] towards that.
[4:10:12] In addition we're reviewing all
[4:10:16] of our assets as we've talked
[4:10:16] about how close they are to
[4:10:17] the electric grid
[4:10:17] infrastructure.
[4:10:21] Our existing power purchase
[4:10:21] agreements specifically at
[4:10:22] Alvarado and Otay water
[4:10:26] treatment plants to see if we
[4:10:26] can make those get better deals
[4:10:30] on those and then all other
[4:10:30] facilities as it relates to So
[4:10:31] we are moving all of those
[4:10:35] around to make progress in
[4:10:35] regards to it because we do
[4:10:36] agree with you in regards to
[4:10:40] identifying opportunities and
[4:10:40] increasing non rate revenue.
[4:10:41] >> Okay.
[4:10:41] I appreciate that and I think
[4:10:44] that's an important that
[4:10:45] information would be important
[4:10:49] to come forward as we are faced
[4:10:53] with additional decisions as
[4:10:57] with water rates, the 17 leases
[4:10:58] that are being worked on if I
[4:11:03] recall and I'm going off memory
[4:11:06] it was somewhere in the 80s I
[4:11:09] believe that we're in holdover
[4:11:10] status of about 110 leases that
[4:11:14] he has yet we have about 60
[4:11:15] that are in So we're working at
[4:11:15] that through 17 of those And
[4:11:16] that's just we are constrained
[4:11:19] by resources.
[4:11:20] We are also identifying if we
[4:11:20] should ask for additional
[4:11:21] resources next budget so that
[4:11:24] way we can also do more work.
[4:11:25] >> Yeah but those resources I
[4:11:28] mean that's a cost recoverable
[4:11:29] resource, right?
[4:11:33] It's very much as an investment
[4:11:34] ,correct.
[4:11:34] And my understanding is that
[4:11:39] our partners at mta have been
[4:11:43] willing to to see some of this
[4:11:44] work contracted out so that we
[4:11:44] can play catch up.
[4:11:48] Yeah, we are identifying
[4:11:48] whichever way whether or not
[4:11:49] that's in-house or even outside
[4:11:53] consultants if it's on a
[4:11:54] temporary Yes, all of that.
[4:11:54] >> Okay, great.
[4:11:55] I appreciate that.
[4:11:57] And then the work with
[4:11:58] committee power and the power
[4:11:59] purchase agreement I'm glad to
[4:12:02] hear that that is happening as
[4:12:02] well.
[4:12:03] Every dollar saved on that end
[4:12:07] is a dollar that we don't have
[4:12:08] to pass along and cost.
[4:12:09] So I'm hitting this from both
[4:12:12] directions but the cost savings
[4:12:17] perspective and revenue side of
[4:12:17] things non rate revenue side of
[4:12:21] things super important for
[4:12:22] again we can't lower rates
[4:12:23] necessarily in an equitable
[4:12:23] way.
[4:12:27] We could do it across the board
[4:12:28] but we can also utilize those
[4:12:31] sort of those revenues for for
[4:12:32] programs to serve lower income
[4:12:36] residents to serve seniors,
[4:12:37] people who would be most
[4:12:37] negatively impacted by
[4:12:41] the changes being imposed upon
[4:12:41] us by the courts.
[4:12:42] >> Correct.
[4:12:42] And we're looking at all all
[4:12:43] avenues.
[4:12:43] Yes.
[4:12:43] All right.
[4:12:46] Thank you for that.
[4:12:47] Thank you.
[4:12:47] All right.
[4:12:47] Thank you.
[4:12:48] Councilmember Ella Rivera.
[4:12:50] We'll go next to council member
[4:12:51] Whitburn.
[4:12:51] >> Thank you.
[4:12:51] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:12:52] This is frustrating.
[4:12:55] We've been fighting for lower
[4:12:55] rates because so many people
[4:13:00] are struggling and now we have
[4:13:01] a court ruling that interferes
[4:13:04] with those efforts In addition
[4:13:09] to the court ordered rate
[4:13:09] impacts.
[4:13:13] There is also the $40 million
[4:13:14] in refunds that have been
[4:13:18] ordered.
[4:13:19] But I do want to make it clear
[4:13:20] that that will not come out of
[4:13:24] the general fund That will be
[4:13:24] entirely within the water
[4:13:29] utility fund, correct?
[4:13:29] >> It is only from the water
[4:13:30] utility fund.
[4:13:33] So that will not impact
[4:13:34] homelessness funding.
[4:13:38] It will not impact public
[4:13:38] safety funding.
[4:13:39] It will not impact street
[4:13:43] paving.
[4:13:43] It will all have to be dealt
[4:13:48] with within the finances of
[4:13:49] the public utilities department
[4:13:52] And in the short term you're
[4:13:53] saying it will result in
[4:13:57] deferred capital improvement
[4:13:57] projects?
[4:13:58] >> Yeah, we are currently
[4:14:00] looking at we have identified a
[4:14:01] potentially about $30 million
[4:14:02] that we'll have to offset but
[4:14:06] we are trying to identify
[4:14:07] whether or not we really truly
[4:14:07] have to defer that or if
[4:14:08] there's any other places for
[4:14:11] savings because we're trying to
[4:14:12] do our due diligence in regards
[4:14:12] to that.
[4:14:13] We won't have that information
[4:14:16] completely finalized until a
[4:14:16] little bit later in the summer.
[4:14:17] >> Okay.
[4:14:17] I appreciate that.
[4:14:20] My hope would be that it
[4:14:21] doesn't hit rates so and I
[4:14:22] appreciate your attentiveness
[4:14:22] to that.
[4:14:25] We will not be asking for it to
[4:14:26] be increasing this revenue
[4:14:26] requirement right now.
[4:14:30] So what's going through on 2027
[4:14:31] is exactly what was previously
[4:14:31] adopted by Council.
[4:14:32] >> Thank you.
[4:14:34] Thank you.
[4:14:35] >> Council PRESIDENT.
[4:14:35] All right.
[4:14:36] Thank you.
[4:14:39] Council member Whitburn.
[4:14:39] A lot of good questions, a lot
[4:14:40] of trying to really work
[4:14:45] through this I think by some of
[4:14:45] the comments of my client, my
[4:14:50] clients I my clients,
[4:14:51] the consultant that comes back
[4:14:55] on I would urge you to think
[4:14:55] very carefully when you look at
[4:14:58] the cip and which projects you
[4:14:59] opt to defer.
[4:14:59] I know you were deferring some
[4:15:03] already to keep the rates that
[4:15:03] we previously approved but
[4:15:04] think about it district by
[4:15:08] district would be my suggestion
[4:15:12] going forward the engineer
[4:15:13] wants to come out me and do a
[4:15:14] whole different explanation but
[4:15:17] I don't think anybody wants to
[4:15:17] hear it from me so I'm not
[4:15:22] going to go there But I think
[4:15:23] you heard there's unanimity
[4:15:26] across the council that no
[4:15:27] one's happy with this but court
[4:15:28] order is a court order.
[4:15:31] So with that we have a motion
[4:15:32] by myself to move the staff
[4:15:33] recommendation a second by
[4:15:33] council member Eli Rivera
[4:15:36] Please call the roll.
[4:15:37] I started the voting system.
[4:15:45] Please cast your vote That
[4:15:50] passes 7 to 1 with
[4:15:51] Councilmember Foster voting no
[4:15:52] and Councilmember Kemp you
[4:15:52] absent.
[4:15:52] Thank you.
[4:15:54] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:15:55] All right.
[4:15:55] Thank you.
[4:16:00] City Clerk All right.
[4:16:00] With that the City Clerk Please
[4:16:04] introduce items as final five
[4:16:05] and item 330 that will be heard
[4:16:05] together.
[4:16:09] Thank you.
[4:16:10] Council PRESIDENT Item s5o5 is
[4:16:12] declaring the results of
[4:16:13] the JUNE 2nd, 2026 municipal
[4:16:13] primary election held in
[4:16:18] the city of San Diego This item
[4:16:18] is not subject to the mayor's
[4:16:19] veto.
[4:16:19] An item 330 is calling a
[4:16:22] general election in the city of
[4:16:23] San Diego to be held on
[4:16:26] Tuesday, NOVEMBER 3rd, 2026 and
[4:16:26] consolidating the election with
[4:16:32] the statewide general election.
[4:16:32] This item is not subject to
[4:16:33] the mayor's veto.
[4:16:33] Thank you.
[4:16:37] Council PRESIDENT All right
[4:16:37] with that I see you have one of
[4:16:38] your city clerk staff so please
[4:16:39] introduce yourself for
[4:16:41] the record and let us know how
[4:16:42] much time you need for
[4:16:42] the combined presentation.
[4:16:45] I'll be requesting four minutes
[4:16:45] today.
[4:16:45] Okay.
[4:16:46] Good afternoon.
[4:16:46] Honorable Council PRESIDENT And
[4:16:50] City Council members.
[4:16:50] My name is Christine Hernandez
[4:16:51] and I am the Deputy Director of
[4:16:54] Elections and City Connections
[4:16:55] with the Office of the City
[4:16:55] Clerk.
[4:16:56] I am here to report a summary
[4:16:59] of the results of the primary
[4:17:00] election held on Tuesday JUNE
[4:17:03] 2nd, 2026 as outlined in Item
[4:17:04] 330 and give you a brief
[4:17:07] presentation on item s5o5
[4:17:08] calling the general municipal
[4:17:09] election in the City of San
[4:17:12] Diego to be held on Tuesday
[4:17:13] NOVEMBER 3rd, 2026 and
[4:17:15] consolidating the election with
[4:17:20] the statewide general election
[4:17:21] .
[4:17:21] The top two vote getters in
[4:17:22] each of the four races are as
[4:17:26] follows For the Office of
[4:17:26] Council District two Richard
[4:17:27] Bailey and Nicole Crosby for
[4:17:31] the Office of Council District
[4:17:31] four Henry Foster the third
[4:17:35] incumbent and Martha Abraham
[4:17:36] for the Office of Council
[4:17:36] District six Ken Lee incumbent
[4:17:40] and Mark Powell for the Office
[4:17:41] of Council District eight
[4:17:41] Antonio Martinez and head out
[4:17:45] of out Ramirez.
[4:17:46] The percentage of the vote an
[4:17:47] outcome for ballot measure a
[4:17:50] city of San Diego non primary
[4:17:50] homes tax on the JUNE 2nd 2020
[4:17:54] sixth primary election is as
[4:17:55] follows There were 155,050
[4:18:00] votes in favor or 46.85% and
[4:18:03] there were 175,898 votes
[4:18:07] against or 53.15%.
[4:18:08] This measure required a
[4:18:12] majority vote for approval
[4:18:13] Measure a did not receive
[4:18:13] the affirmative vote of a
[4:18:14] majority of the qualified
[4:18:17] voters voting on the measure
[4:18:18] and is hereby declared to have
[4:18:23] been failed Item as five of
[4:18:23] five calls the general
[4:18:24] municipal election and
[4:18:24] consolidates the election with
[4:18:27] the statewide general election
[4:18:28] to be held on Tuesday NOVEMBER
[4:18:30] 3rd, 2026.
[4:18:31] The ordinance and resolution
[4:18:32] before the Council are required
[4:18:35] to call this election and
[4:18:36] authorize the City Comptroller
[4:18:37] to reimburse the County of San
[4:18:41] Diego for the actual and direct
[4:18:41] cost of the services performed
[4:18:42] by the Registrar of Voters in
[4:18:45] connection with the election
[4:18:45] services.
[4:18:46] This the cost will be borne by
[4:18:50] the city's general fund
[4:18:51] the approved fiscal year 2027
[4:18:51] budgeted amount for this
[4:18:55] election in the citywide
[4:18:59] program expenditures is $2.331
[4:18:59] million.
[4:19:00] The actual costs will vary
[4:19:00] depending on how many
[4:19:04] jurisdictions participate.
[4:19:05] The term voters assigns
[4:19:05] election costs in a
[4:19:09] consolidated election using a
[4:19:09] weighted average method.
[4:19:10] This attributes cost to each
[4:19:14] jurisdiction based on
[4:19:14] the number of contests,
[4:19:15] the number of registered voters
[4:19:16] and the number of sample ballot
[4:19:19] pages.
[4:19:23] The city of San Diego has
[4:19:26] 840,544 registered voters as of
[4:19:27] the JULY 1st 2026 report
[4:19:27] provided by the Registrar of
[4:19:31] Voters This concludes my
[4:19:32] presentation and the City Clerk
[4:19:32] and I are happy to answer any
[4:19:36] of your questions.
[4:19:36] All right.
[4:19:37] Thank you Christine for that
[4:19:37] report.
[4:19:38] Clerk Please proceed with
[4:19:41] public comment on both items.
[4:19:42] >> Thank you.
[4:19:42] Council PRESIDENT Anthony
[4:19:45] Ralphs If you can please come
[4:19:46] forward you will have two
[4:19:47] minutes to speak on both items
[4:19:51] 505 and item 330.
[4:19:51] After that we have Blair
[4:20:00] Beekman and allegedly Audra.
[4:20:04] Good afternoon Council.
[4:20:05] >> There's different ways of
[4:20:06] saying thank you.
[4:20:09] I don't want mine to be empty
[4:20:13] words So I bring these flowers
[4:20:13] and one of them is for
[4:20:14] the Carver and the other is for
[4:20:15] you, MS..
[4:20:17] Fuentes, for all of your work
[4:20:18] ensuring that we will be able
[4:20:19] to continue group presentations
[4:20:20] online I know that's not part
[4:20:23] of the agenda item so I will
[4:20:23] get on topic.
[4:20:28] I would love to see I wonder if
[4:20:29] there's a possibility I know
[4:20:29] that we have an ordinance
[4:20:32] making sure that NOVEMBER 3rd
[4:20:32] nationally is the same day that
[4:20:33] we vote with the other places
[4:20:34] in the country.
[4:20:36] But I'm curious to see what
[4:20:37] would happen, what kind of a
[4:20:37] voter turnout we would get if
[4:20:41] we could do it on a Saturday.
[4:20:41] I know nationally it's we have
[4:20:42] all those studies that have
[4:20:46] shown that we'd get much bigger
[4:20:46] voter turnout if we could have
[4:20:47] it on a day that a majority of
[4:20:50] the people in this country
[4:20:51] don't have to work.
[4:20:51] But I don't know if that's
[4:20:52] actually feasible.
[4:20:55] Thank you for the clarifying
[4:20:56] comments on the positions
[4:20:59] earlier that were spoken to.
[4:21:00] I also got these flowers for
[4:21:01] you Henry Foster Good luck with
[4:21:05] your race.
[4:21:05] I actually just put out one of
[4:21:06] your signs which I got from one
[4:21:09] of your constituents Michelle I
[4:21:10] put out one of your yard signs
[4:21:11] in front of my parents house in
[4:21:14] Coronado which I know obviously
[4:21:15] that's not in your area in your
[4:21:19] district but I know that
[4:21:20] there's a lot of workers from
[4:21:21] your district that work in
[4:21:24] Coronado and we're trying to
[4:21:25] get visibility out there So let
[4:21:25] me know if you need help
[4:21:28] walking and canvasing.
[4:21:29] I'm happy to do that and I
[4:21:29] appreciate you routinely being
[4:21:33] someone on this council that
[4:21:34] stands up to police brutality,
[4:21:38] stands up for police
[4:21:38] accountability, stands up for
[4:21:43] civilian oversight for not only
[4:21:44] and you've discussed use in
[4:21:44] your own words Accountability
[4:21:48] is a bare minimum.
[4:21:48] Accountability is just a start
[4:21:49] And I completely agree.
[4:21:50] So I want to thank you
[4:21:53] wholehearted Lee for all
[4:21:54] the work that you're doing and
[4:21:55] I want to support you in your
[4:21:58] upcoming election And thanks
[4:21:59] everybody.
[4:21:59] Thank you.
[4:22:04] Item s5 five and 330 for Blair
[4:22:04] Beckman.
[4:22:05] >> You'll have two minutes.
[4:22:06] Please proceed.
[4:22:17] Oh, hi.
[4:22:17] By Beekman.
[4:22:21] Um, thank you.
[4:22:22] Thank you for this item.
[4:22:23] It's very nice to speak to uh,
[4:22:27] the ideas of procedures and
[4:22:27] what we've been through in
[4:22:31] the past six months three
[4:22:32] months and what we'll be going
[4:22:35] forward to ensure the next hall
[4:22:35] and for the remainder of this
[4:22:36] year.
[4:22:40] >> Um, thank you for these
[4:22:41] efforts And then our election
[4:22:45] process is continuing.
[4:22:46] We have two persons on our
[4:22:50] council who I think are very
[4:22:51] well liked.
[4:22:51] They have good ideas and good
[4:22:56] ways to work and they are going
[4:22:56] for election.
[4:22:57] They're up for election at this
[4:23:01] time and they have some tough
[4:23:02] campaigns to look how they can
[4:23:03] uh how how they're there.
[4:23:04] Election process will continue.
[4:23:10] Um I in the spirit of that in
[4:23:10] the spirit of learning
[4:23:14] the election process you
[4:23:15] probably know my feelings that
[4:23:16] I'm learning you know my own
[4:23:19] process of how a community can
[4:23:20] work better And I've been
[4:23:25] really wanting a certain item
[4:23:26] and items to be thought about
[4:23:27] and moving forward And I mean
[4:23:30] it's been my personal feeling
[4:23:31] we to move forward with
[4:23:32] the block things this fall but
[4:23:33] I realize that we MAY have to
[4:23:35] wait And in the spirit of
[4:23:36] the election process I've been
[4:23:40] trying to develop ideas for her
[4:23:40] .
[4:23:41] The process can be a process
[4:23:45] process as part of a dialog of
[4:23:46] just better understanding where
[4:23:47] people are coming from and why
[4:23:50] they want to leave.
[4:23:50] We don't have to have final
[4:23:51] answers this fall but just if
[4:23:52] we're talking about the subject
[4:23:55] matter as part of the election
[4:23:56] process, as our procedures of
[4:24:00] community best practices that i
[4:24:01] figured out, that's the way we
[4:24:01] should be working and I think
[4:24:05] it'll accomplish a lot for all
[4:24:06] of us to the community.
[4:24:07] Everyone can get a better sense
[4:24:08] of what our surveillance and
[4:24:11] tech is.
[4:24:12] Lapd is leaving Flock They just
[4:24:13] announced that today.
[4:24:18] So it's an important matter.
[4:24:19] >> We can't just push under
[4:24:19] the rug.
[4:24:20] Let's hope we can keep it an
[4:24:20] open subject this fall And good
[4:24:22] luck.
[4:24:23] >> Thank you for that
[4:24:24] concluding remark allegedly
[4:24:27] Andrea Also on both items just
[4:24:32] really quick for a point of
[4:24:33] information as far as a charter
[4:24:38] city, can you guys do you not
[4:24:39] have the autonomy to govern
[4:24:44] locally without a kind of
[4:24:45] negating the constitution?
[4:24:49] I understand that to 18 is part
[4:24:50] of the Constitution but
[4:24:50] anything that is in law or
[4:24:55] anything like that that is
[4:24:55] against people's rights would
[4:24:56] be unconstitutional.
[4:25:01] So I'm just wondering do you
[4:25:02] not have the ability to stand
[4:25:03] outside that if you would In a
[4:25:03] point of order?
[4:25:04] I would like point of order.
[4:25:06] That's what I meant.
[4:25:07] Well, whatever.
[4:25:07] Okay.
[4:25:08] Point of order.
[4:25:08] The attorney says we're on
[4:25:10] solid ground with Prop 218 and
[4:25:11] how we implement.
[4:25:12] I know, but what I'm saying is
[4:25:16] if you're a charter, can you
[4:25:16] not?
[4:25:17] >> I don't know And I can take
[4:25:18] it up with the city attorney's
[4:25:18] office.
[4:25:18] Okay.
[4:25:21] I just think that you guys need
[4:25:22] to think more about that
[4:25:22] because you should have
[4:25:23] the autonomy to go outside of
[4:25:23] that.
[4:25:27] All of you guys are upset So I
[4:25:28] mean if you are a charter then
[4:25:28] you should be able to go
[4:25:29] outside of that.
[4:25:32] So I didn't because I didn't
[4:25:33] say point of order for real.
[4:25:37] Oh my gosh.
[4:25:38] Well what it's like you're
[4:25:39] learning You know what I'm
[4:25:39] saying?
[4:25:43] Like I mean whatever That's
[4:25:44] what's so ridiculous is like
[4:25:45] you guys want to Okay, well
[4:25:45] they always calling a point of
[4:25:52] order then because that's.
[4:25:53] Yeah.
[4:25:53] Anyway, this is interesting
[4:25:54] because it's like I mean you
[4:25:59] guys sit here and you know,
[4:26:00] want to talk about voting and
[4:26:03] it's like I mean Prop 218
[4:26:03] totally negates people's
[4:26:04] ability to make sure that they
[4:26:05] don't have water rate increases
[4:26:09] and like this ensures that they
[4:26:09] will always go through because
[4:26:10] if you guys think that you're
[4:26:15] going to be held in contempt if
[4:26:15] people protest like doesn't
[4:26:16] that negate the fact that if
[4:26:21] people protest that's their
[4:26:22] voice and that's what should be
[4:26:22] heard.
[4:26:23] It's just that because it's
[4:26:23] like you're basically saying
[4:26:27] that even if the people do
[4:26:28] you're going to pass it anyway.
[4:26:29] >> So I mean how is it that's
[4:26:29] not what we said.
[4:26:32] You're not talking to the two
[4:26:33] agenda items which are Yeah I'm
[4:26:34] talking about voting them.
[4:26:37] Yeah, it's about elections.
[4:26:38] So I'm just saying like with
[4:26:39] elections I mean if we're
[4:26:39] talking about something in
[4:26:44] voting in this prior item and
[4:26:45] then you want us to trust
[4:26:45] the process here, how can we do
[4:26:50] that when it's not really
[4:26:51] the people's voice?
[4:26:51] It's like it's 144,000 people
[4:26:56] come in here and you say that's
[4:26:57] people's voice being heard.
[4:26:58] It is it It's actually people's
[4:26:59] voice being silenced And that's
[4:27:03] time has concluded.
[4:27:04] I'm sorry that I'm out of time
[4:27:04] or going to those participating
[4:27:07] remotely starting with 8700.
[4:27:08] If you can please unmute will
[4:27:09] you be speaking to one or both
[4:27:12] of the items?
[4:27:13] Both Please proceed.
[4:27:14] You'll have two minutes.
[4:27:19] Thank you.
[4:27:19] Thank you.
[4:27:20] Office of the City Clerk for
[4:27:25] all you do on these ballot
[4:27:25] measures and voting and all of
[4:27:26] that.
[4:27:30] It's so important to democracy
[4:27:30] to our city.
[4:27:38] Thank you so much for that You
[4:27:38] thank you to anyone who is
[4:27:42] willing to serve to run for
[4:27:42] office.
[4:27:43] We really appreciate you
[4:27:48] putting your chin out there.
[4:27:54] Number three $2 million plus
[4:27:54] 4th NOVEMBER election.
[4:27:55] Boy, that's inflation, isn't
[4:27:55] it?
[4:27:58] I know that like a million or
[4:27:58] so.
[4:27:59] Anyway, I know you understand
[4:28:00] all of that but that's a high
[4:28:03] figure, isn't it?
[4:28:03] Number four.
[4:28:10] Be careful of what you load on
[4:28:16] up to 18 because the ripples on
[4:28:16] and on and on and on.
[4:28:23] We are no we are not a closed
[4:28:23] system.
[4:28:24] We are not a pound in
[4:28:26] the ripples from 1818.
[4:28:27] And Google says it's about 40
[4:28:31] million It's up to 120 million
[4:28:32] That's a settlement is against
[4:28:37] the city and please let us know
[4:28:38] how it's going to hit our rates
[4:28:38] for water.
[4:28:43] Who love you all so much.
[4:28:44] >> Have a great summer recess.
[4:28:44] Thank you.
[4:28:49] Next is Natalie Rush if you can
[4:28:54] them you Hi Natalie Rafiki
[4:28:59] after them The council talked
[4:29:00] about this to 18 It was made
[4:29:05] more clear to me what we're
[4:29:10] dealing with what it's I'm
[4:29:11] almost speechless It anything
[4:29:12] that we're voting on anymore
[4:29:17] does it matter?
[4:29:18] And the people that are holding
[4:29:23] positions right now we need
[4:29:24] the ability to have leadership
[4:29:24] to say no more.
[4:29:33] That's like an inversion.
[4:29:33] I'm going to be paying the same
[4:29:34] amount as a golf course But I
[4:29:39] live in the apartment complex
[4:29:39] and we're kind of rated
[4:29:40] the same way.
[4:29:41] I know this is not that simple
[4:29:45] but everything just seems
[4:29:46] inverted and I hope people who
[4:29:51] are listening are really
[4:29:51] intentionally start to pay
[4:29:52] attention and show up because
[4:29:57] like they were saying, it's
[4:29:57] going to come down to
[4:29:58] the people and what are we
[4:30:02] willing to sacrifice a little
[4:30:03] so that we're not left with
[4:30:08] nothing?
[4:30:09] It's crazy to me.
[4:30:10] I have four children in this
[4:30:15] world that we're living in.
[4:30:15] It's not the same anymore.
[4:30:16] It's not going to go back to
[4:30:17] being the same and systems are
[4:30:20] going to fall.
[4:30:21] But how do we want to move
[4:30:21] forward?
[4:30:22] We really need to start
[4:30:27] researching everything that
[4:30:27] comes at us and be intentional
[4:30:33] with how we move intentional
[4:30:33] for the people, intentional in
[4:30:34] the choices we make and what
[4:30:39] we're leaving for our children
[4:30:39] and what we stand for.
[4:30:40] Because when we do nothing and
[4:30:41] be compliant then we're just
[4:30:45] guilty ourselves And I don't
[4:30:46] want to live in that type of
[4:30:46] world.
[4:30:47] Thank you.
[4:30:47] Thank you.
[4:30:51] That doesn't the public comment
[4:30:51] on this item items.
[4:30:52] >> All right.
[4:30:57] I'm going to break my own rule
[4:30:58] and I guess I'll also kick this
[4:30:58] off.
[4:30:59] You're not gonna be paying
[4:30:59] the same amount as the golf
[4:31:02] course.
[4:31:06] A golf course uses probably
[4:31:07] 15,100 cubic feet a month.
[4:31:08] Somebody live in a condominium
[4:31:13] Probably does five 15,000
[4:31:14] versus five.
[4:31:14] You're not going be paying
[4:31:18] the same amount using the same
[4:31:19] rate.
[4:31:19] It's just like you go to
[4:31:25] the gas station no matter how
[4:31:26] good your mileage is, we all
[4:31:26] pay the same rate for gas.
[4:31:27] I want to make sure everybody
[4:31:28] understands that.
[4:31:31] So with that I don't see
[4:31:32] anybody else on the line.
[4:31:32] Thank you for the work.
[4:31:36] This is a requirement and you
[4:31:37] in the city clerk's office does
[4:31:38] such a very good job and it's
[4:31:38] very much appreciated.
[4:31:43] One question just wanted to
[4:31:44] double check that the estimated
[4:31:49] cost of the ballot to the city
[4:31:49] of San Diego was accounted for
[4:31:50] in the f y 27 budget.
[4:31:55] Yes it was.
[4:31:55] >> Okay, great.
[4:31:55] Thank you.
[4:31:56] I just wanted to verify that.
[4:32:01] With that I will move item s
[4:32:02] but that's 5 or 5.
[4:32:07] Council Councilmember Eli
[4:32:08] Rivera I will second your
[4:32:08] motion.
[4:32:08] >> All right.
[4:32:13] So a motion by myself and
[4:32:14] second by Councilmember Eli
[4:32:14] Rivera to move the staff
[4:32:17] recommendation at 5o5 Please
[4:32:18] vote or call the roll.
[4:32:26] Please cast your vote That does
[4:32:27] passed unanimously 8 to 0 with
[4:32:32] Councilmember Campo Absent.
[4:32:33] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[4:32:33] All right.
[4:32:34] On an item 330 calling
[4:32:37] the general municipal election
[4:32:38] ,I will again make the motion
[4:32:39] for that Councilmember Eli
[4:32:42] Rivera.
[4:32:43] So somebody else wants to jump
[4:32:51] in.
[4:32:52] >> So a motion by myself in
[4:32:53] the second by council be
[4:32:54] regarding the staff
[4:32:54] recommendation I have 330.
[4:32:55] Please call the roll and start
[4:32:55] the voting system.
[4:33:05] Please cast your vote No that
[4:33:06] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with
[4:33:06] Councilmember Campo absent.
[4:33:11] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[4:33:11] right.
[4:33:12] >> Thank you, City Clerk And
[4:33:13] with that what a way to end
[4:33:13] the first half of
[4:33:17] the legislative year.
[4:33:18] So we will now adjourn Council
[4:33:18] to the next regularly scheduled
[4:33:19] council meeting on Monday
[4:33:24] AUGUST 24th, 2026 at 10 A.M.
[4:33:26] Have a good recess.
[4:33:33] >> No to the flowers so we'll
[4:33:34] find a suitable home for them.
[4:33:36] I thank you very much for