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Psychological Services along

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with things like whistleblower

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protections and really learning

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how to build those things that

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is just it builds not only

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the police well but it builds

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our community well, it builds

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our well-being.

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So it's really important we

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work on that and good luck.

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And I wanted to comment that

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because of the issues that

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we've had recently, I think

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police have had some sort of

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standard where they cannot more

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easily talk to themselves about

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how to discuss the technology

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in real time.

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We have to have those

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conversations openly and make

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sure police are practicing in

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good terms.

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>> When we have that

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conversation.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The five minute timer to

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conclude here in council

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chambers no additional speakers

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will be taken.

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There were seven in the queue.

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Lauren Keenan if you can please

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unmute and let me know which

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item or items you wish to speak

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to.

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Item 6 or 5 please.

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Please proceed.

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>> You have one minute.

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Okay I am walking in co founder

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of Family for Safety at San

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Diego.

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I spoke on Friday about why

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the multimodal team matters to

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families like mine hope and

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personally impacted by traffic

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violence.

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Today I want to focus on

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the solution in front of you

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the city's own transportation

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professionals have told us that

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eliminating this team will

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reduce Indigo's ability to

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deliver street safety projects

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.

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If we believe safer streets

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save lives we should take that

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assessment seriously.

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Cities across the country are

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investing in dedicated street

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safety staff, not eliminating

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them.

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You asked advocates to identify

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a practical solution for

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the Aramark included armory Is

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that solution for families who

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have already lost loved ones

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it's really difficult to

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understand why preserving a

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team dedicated to making our

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streets safe safer would not be

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a priority.

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Remember our amendment gives

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you the opportunity to preserve

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the city's ability to make

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streets safer.

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I urge you to amend the item

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the need for funding to

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the multi-modal team.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Next the San Diego County

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Bicycle Coalition if you can

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please I'm you and let me know

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which item or items you wish to

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speak to Item 6 or 5 please.

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>> Please proceed.

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>> Good morning City Council.

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My name is the Integrity and

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I'm the advocacy and community

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manager for the City County

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Bicycle Coalition.

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I'm calling in to urge you to

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amend the Armory Project list

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to fully fund the city's

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multimodal team for f y 27.

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The Armory Project List

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includes funding for

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the citywide City Manager plan.

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This plan has been in the works

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for a long time.

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We were excited to see it

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included in this flexible

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funding list.

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Months ago when you received

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the presentation from staff on

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the city Manager plan to

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acknowledge an important fact

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about reducing speeds was that

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changing the sign is not

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enough.

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We need engineering enforcement

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solutions to actually make a

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difference.

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We will not be able to achieve

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the identified and prioritize

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speed reductions without

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the multi-modal team.

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This team was responsible for

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making the quick and easy

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design changes during

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resurfacing that slow speeds

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down.

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We should use those flexible

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armory funds to keep

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the multi-modal team on board

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so they can assist in the work

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outlined in this expansion plan

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section A.D. For this item.

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Based on the quotes provided in

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Friday's meeting we can fully

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fund this team with 12 miles

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worth of slurry seal.

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>> We need this team to make

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the other hundreds of miles

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safer.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Next is Tony.

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If you can please unmute please

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let me know which item or items

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you wish to speak to.

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>> Hello, How you doing?

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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Hey, good morning.

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I wanted to speak to item

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number I believe it's 617.

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It was Yes 617 Number 615 Oh

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I'm sorry.

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Not 615 614.

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And which one was the multi

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modal 605 which was speaking to

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six and five as well.

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Please proceed.

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You have three minutes.

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Thank you.

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>> And then I also just wanted

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to clarify two it seems like

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there's been a little bit of

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inconsistency about about what

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is allowed to be spoken to in

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terms of which topics are

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addressed during agenda items

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and which ones are addressed

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are just addressed during non

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agenda public comment.

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I just want to make sure that

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we have some consistency

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because you know we did have

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somebody that was speaking

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earlier and he was told for

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the Balboa Park thing that he

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would have to speak on that at

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a later time because that was

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being discussed at a later

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point in the day.

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But I didn't see anything in

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the agenda about Freemasonry.

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I didn't see anything in

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the agenda about accusing

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council members of drinking

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blood.

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I didn't see anything in

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the agenda about China invading

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the United States.

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So I'm just curious why some of

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our constituents are allowed to

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have just these unhinged rants,

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these disrespectful unhinged

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rants.

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They aren't cut off And if

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that's okay, we're going to

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have that sort of inconsistency

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then I would like the freedom

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to be able to talk about Flock

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Alper and how I'm opposed to it

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for the next three minutes But

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I'm not going to do that.

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I'm not going to disrespect

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y'all's time like that and

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disrespect the rules and

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the decorum like that But I

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would hope that it would

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encourage you all to do your

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job and maybe stay on it a

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little bit better and have more

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consistency with that because

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it's not really fair to

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the rest of us and it's not

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fair to our council members and

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the people in council right

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now.

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I hope I hope that you're

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hearing this because please get

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it together.

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It's it's you get more you get

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more money, you get more bs

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with honey than you do with

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vinegar and accusing people

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making baseless accusations,

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accusing people of drinking

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blood is like is next level

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wrong So get it together.

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Thank you.

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And to speak now on on

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the actual topics that I wanted

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to address I wanted to speak to

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617 Authorization to grant

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easement on that property See

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Gene is $1 billion company

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multibillion dollar company

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the it says the city will

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receive 20 grand as a payment

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for the easement.

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It seems like it's way too

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little If there's a way that we

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can charge them way more I'm

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sure that they can afford it.

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That would be awesome for 614 I

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love this program.

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I think it's fantastic.

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I would love to see us go a

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step further.

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I think that cops should not

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only get psychological help and

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treatment as they need for ptsd

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but I also think that they

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should that we should be

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exploring them getting degrees

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in psychology so that they can

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make better judgment calls in

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the field.

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And I applied a blurb for

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speaking to that earlier this

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morning And I also want to back

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everybody that's called in

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asking you all to fully fund

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the multi-modal team.

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I support that 100%.

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>> Thank you.

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You're next.

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This one number ending in 7499

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If you can please join me at

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7499.

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And please let me know which

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item or items you wish to speak

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to on the consent agenda.

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But because this year I'd like

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to address all the items but

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I'll be very brief.

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First I'd like to endorse some

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of the comments made by

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allegedly Audra and many others

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who continually make very good

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points to this council.

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I'd like to speak in particular

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and object in objection to

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the ongoing increases in

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citizen surveillance endorsed

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by this Council.

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I read George Orwell's book

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1984 back in the 70s when I was

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still in school At that time as

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a young person in the year 1984

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seeing the long, long time in

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the future I remember thinking

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to myself that the citizen

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surveillance portrayed in that

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book could never be practical

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because for every camera in

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every room of every house and

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on every street there would

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have to be a person watching

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it.

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That would mean that you'd need

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at least 1 or 2 people watching

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every citizen That would be

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unsustainable.

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But that was before aa.

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aa is changing everything.

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I am reminded of Jack London's

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01:17:28,362 --> 01:17:29,296
opening to Call of the Wild.

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01:17:29,296 --> 01:17:33,468
He wrote quote I did not read

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01:17:33,468 --> 01:17:34,169
the newspapers or he would have

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01:17:34,169 --> 01:17:34,869
known that trouble was brewing

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01:17:34,869 --> 01:17:38,469
not alone for himself but for

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every tidewater dog strong of

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01:17:40,642 --> 01:17:41,375
muscle and with warm long hair

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from Puget Sound to San Diego.

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End quote.

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That's where we are right now

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with the more general data that

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we give to the more powerful it

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01:17:52,787 --> 01:17:55,787
will become and the more

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personal data that we give to

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01:17:57,959 --> 01:17:58,360
aa, the more abusive it will

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come become.

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This council needs to be very

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cautious about adding new eyes

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and ears to the ai that is

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growing because we won't be

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able to roll it back.

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>> Thank you.

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Leonard if you'd like to add

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01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,247
new and please let me know

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01:18:19,247 --> 01:18:23,447
which item or items you wish to

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speak to whether I can only it

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for you.

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01:18:26,821 --> 01:18:28,821
>> Okay.

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There you go.

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Please let me know which item

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or items you wish to speak to.

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I am sorry In regards to

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measure b it's not an agenda.

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01:18:38,700 --> 01:18:39,234
>> Can I speak on that?

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01:18:39,234 --> 01:18:39,901
Can you repeat that?

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I'm sorry I didn't hear you

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correctly.

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I signed Measure b isn't a non

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agenda item.

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01:18:45,674 --> 01:18:48,674
Can I speak on that?

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You'll have to raise your hand

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01:18:50,745 --> 01:18:51,413
during an on agenda public

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01:18:51,413 --> 01:18:51,880
comment which will be after

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this afternoon.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Judy Strang If you can please

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unmute Judy.

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There you go.

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Do you know which items you

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wish to speak to on the consent

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agenda?

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01:19:09,563 --> 01:19:09,997
>> Yes.

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01:19:09,997 --> 01:19:11,997
Good morning.

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I'd like to speak to item 6 or

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3 which we're meeting notes

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from MARCH the Monday and

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Tuesday meeting back in MARCH.

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I spoke to 80 for 55 and have

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been thinking about it again

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and of course it's on

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the agenda by way of comments.

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And so I just want to reiterate

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why the success of this was for

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the public health community.

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It was the first law in

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the nation that would require

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those who are selling their

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01:19:41,530 --> 01:19:42,197
homes to disclose whether there

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01:19:42,197 --> 01:19:42,898
had been third smoke or be

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01:19:42,898 --> 01:19:45,298
contaminant in their property

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third hand smoke as you know,

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01:19:48,304 --> 01:19:49,700
is that toxic residue that

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lingers long after cigarets and

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01:19:53,775 --> 01:19:54,509
vaping devices are extinguished

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01:19:54,509 --> 01:19:55,177
that settles into carpet walls,

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01:19:55,177 --> 01:19:58,177
furniture and it can persist

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01:20:00,810 --> 01:20:00,782
there for years and then off

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01:20:00,782 --> 01:20:01,249
gases back into the apartment

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into the condo.

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And we of the public health

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community have always said our

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01:20:06,755 --> 01:20:09,155
greatest concern for children

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because they're the closest to

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furniture and carpet.

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So we are excited about this

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first in the nation.

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It's a collaborative process.

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It passed with both parties in

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support.

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It shows our concern for smoke

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.

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>> Thank you.

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That does conclude public

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comment on the consent agenda.

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All right.

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01:20:29,178 --> 01:20:30,120
Thank you, City Clerk.

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And before I turn over to my

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council colleagues here for

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those of you MAY have noticed,

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01:20:35,918 --> 01:20:36,852
I continue to look at my phone.

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There's a 45 acre fire in

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01:20:40,455 --> 01:20:41,156
Sorento Valley and there's been

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01:20:41,156 --> 01:20:44,156
a number of evacuation orders

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01:20:46,695 --> 01:20:47,396
issued to the southerly part of

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Tree Hills, the easterly part

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01:20:47,830 --> 01:20:49,830
of Mira mesa.

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I would certainly encourage

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those folks or if you know

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01:20:53,702 --> 01:20:54,370
somebody who lives there, pay

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01:20:54,370 --> 01:20:54,670
attention to the fire rescue

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folks.

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They know what they're doing.

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01:20:58,907 --> 01:20:59,275
They take their job very

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01:20:59,275 --> 01:20:59,942
seriously.

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When the issue of evacuation

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01:21:00,609 --> 01:21:02,609
routes hopefully everybody's

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01:21:03,979 --> 01:21:04,646
safe and fire rescue and

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01:21:04,646 --> 01:21:05,347
everybody that supports them

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01:21:05,347 --> 01:21:05,614
will be able to put this fire

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out.

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So thank you for letting me

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throw that in there.

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01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:15,191
And with that I will turn it

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01:21:15,191 --> 01:21:15,591
over to Council member Foster

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01:21:15,591 --> 01:21:16,358
Thank you.

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01:21:16,358 --> 01:21:17,590
Council PRESIDENT I am going to

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01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:20,659
try to keep my comments as

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01:21:22,331 --> 01:21:23,990
brief as I can as I would like

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01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:27,269
to cede some time and I will

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01:21:27,269 --> 01:21:28,137
say this on the front end to

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DR. Wells I want to make sure

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01:21:28,838 --> 01:21:32,438
that he has an opportunity to

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01:21:33,275 --> 01:21:33,676
come to the mic.

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01:21:33,676 --> 01:21:34,243
>> Okay.

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01:21:34,243 --> 01:21:35,277
Thank you for that.

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01:21:35,277 --> 01:21:39,477
So with that I will start with

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01:21:40,150 --> 01:21:40,682
item 638 today I am just so

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01:21:40,682 --> 01:21:43,682
proud to bring forward this

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01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:45,621
recognition for our very own

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01:21:45,621 --> 01:21:46,689
Reverend DR. Walter g.

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01:21:46,689 --> 01:21:50,289
>> Wells, a man whose life and

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01:21:51,961 --> 01:21:52,662
leadership have touched

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01:21:52,662 --> 01:21:53,429
generations in our community.

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01:21:53,429 --> 01:21:56,429
>> DR. Wells is a proud

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01:21:58,968 --> 01:21:59,468
graduate of Lincoln High

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01:21:59,468 --> 01:22:00,202
School, a fellow.

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01:22:00,202 --> 01:22:03,802
And for more than five decades.

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01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:04,807
And I'll say that again five

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01:22:04,807 --> 01:22:08,407
decades he has served as pastor

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01:22:10,245 --> 01:22:10,580
of the Mount Airy Baptist

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01:22:10,580 --> 01:22:12,580
Church.

455
01:22:15,718 --> 01:22:16,352
>> 53 years of ministry, 53

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01:22:16,352 --> 01:22:19,352
years serving the Lord had

457
01:22:21,891 --> 01:22:22,558
the calling and has stepped

458
01:22:22,558 --> 01:22:25,558
into that gap, accepted that

459
01:22:27,864 --> 01:22:28,564
path and has served

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01:22:28,564 --> 01:22:29,198
consistently and has dedicated

461
01:22:29,198 --> 01:22:32,198
his life to our community.

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01:22:34,970 --> 01:22:35,805
Thank you so much.

463
01:22:35,805 --> 01:22:36,405
>> But his work has always gone

464
01:22:36,405 --> 01:22:36,939
far beyond the walls of

465
01:22:36,939 --> 01:22:37,340
the church under his

466
01:22:37,340 --> 01:22:39,340
leadership.

467
01:22:41,377 --> 01:22:42,111
Mount Airy has become a place

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01:22:42,111 --> 01:22:42,679
where faith, education, service

469
01:22:42,679 --> 01:22:43,450
and community all come

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01:22:43,450 --> 01:22:45,450
together.

471
01:22:47,183 --> 01:22:47,784
He helped establish the Mount

472
01:22:47,784 --> 01:22:48,451
Airy Christian Academy,

473
01:22:48,451 --> 01:22:50,851
the Infinite Toddler Center,

474
01:22:52,655 --> 01:22:53,322
the Trolley Daycare and

475
01:22:53,322 --> 01:22:54,230
the Academy Preschool Center

476
01:22:54,230 --> 01:22:56,423
creating spaces where children

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01:22:58,761 --> 01:22:59,195
could learn, grow and be cared

478
01:22:59,195 --> 01:22:59,929
for correctly.

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01:22:59,929 --> 01:23:04,129
I always say no one will take

480
01:23:04,334 --> 01:23:05,201
better care of us than us.

481
01:23:05,201 --> 01:23:05,501
>> So thank you so much for

482
01:23:05,501 --> 01:23:07,501
that.

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01:23:10,974 --> 01:23:11,708
DR. Wells understood early on

484
01:23:11,708 --> 01:23:12,308
that ministry is not only about

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01:23:12,308 --> 01:23:13,430
what happens on Sunday.

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01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:16,546
It's about meeting the needs of

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01:23:16,546 --> 01:23:17,246
the people throughout the week

488
01:23:17,246 --> 01:23:17,847
supporting families, mentoring

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01:23:17,847 --> 01:23:18,447
young people, educating

490
01:23:18,447 --> 01:23:20,847
children and building up

491
01:23:22,485 --> 01:23:23,353
the community around you.

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01:23:23,353 --> 01:23:24,200
For decades he has poured love,

493
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,420
wisdom and steady leadership

494
01:23:28,824 --> 01:23:29,458
into Lincoln Park District four

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01:23:29,458 --> 01:23:29,825
and the Greater San Diego

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01:23:29,825 --> 01:23:30,560
community.

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01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:34,464
His legacy is seen in the lives

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01:23:34,464 --> 01:23:35,164
he has helped shape,

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01:23:35,164 --> 01:23:35,899
the families he has supported

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01:23:35,899 --> 01:23:36,533
and the generations of leaders,

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01:23:36,533 --> 01:23:38,933
believers and servants who

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01:23:40,536 --> 01:23:40,870
continue to carry that work

503
01:23:40,870 --> 01:23:41,538
forward.

504
01:23:41,538 --> 01:23:42,205
>> DR. Wells your legacy is

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01:23:42,205 --> 01:23:45,805
carried out in the lives you

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01:23:46,409 --> 01:23:47,110
continue to shape the families

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01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:47,744
you support and the community

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01:23:47,744 --> 01:23:50,144
that stands stronger today

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01:23:52,749 --> 01:23:53,450
because of your leadership.

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01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:54,150
This honorary street naming is

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01:23:54,150 --> 01:23:58,350
one small way we can say thank

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01:23:58,754 --> 01:23:59,422
you for a lifetime of service,

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01:23:59,422 --> 01:23:59,789
faith and commitment to our

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01:23:59,789 --> 01:24:00,690
community.

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01:24:00,690 --> 01:24:04,527
I am honored to bring this idea

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01:24:04,527 --> 01:24:05,228
forward and I respectfully ask

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01:24:05,228 --> 01:24:05,862
my colleagues to support this

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01:24:05,862 --> 01:24:08,262
very, very important item.

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01:24:10,934 --> 01:24:11,601
And if I can pause there

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01:24:11,601 --> 01:24:14,601
quickly to allow the good

521
01:24:15,305 --> 01:24:17,705
Reverend DR. Walter g.

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01:24:33,757 --> 01:24:34,101
>> Wells to come to the mic

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01:24:34,101 --> 01:24:34,758
now.

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01:24:34,758 --> 01:24:35,392
Councilmember Foster, I know

525
01:24:35,392 --> 01:24:38,392
when the good reverend get

526
01:24:40,463 --> 01:24:40,797
started it's going to be hard

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01:24:40,797 --> 01:24:41,464
to stop.

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01:24:41,464 --> 01:24:42,465
So how much time with you?

529
01:24:42,465 --> 01:24:45,401
I think I put five minutes on

530
01:24:45,401 --> 01:24:46,135
the clock.

531
01:24:46,135 --> 01:24:46,636
Council PRESIDENT You're you're

532
01:24:46,636 --> 01:24:48,839
welcome to use my.

533
01:24:48,839 --> 01:24:53,639
MAY I ask how much time do I

534
01:24:55,780 --> 01:24:57,478
have to our COUNCILMAN.

535
01:25:00,584 --> 01:25:01,251
>> COUNCILMAN Foster to all of

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01:25:01,251 --> 01:25:03,251
the council representatives.

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01:25:07,224 --> 01:25:11,862
Let me say how thankful I am to

538
01:25:11,862 --> 01:25:12,328
be recognized in such an

539
01:25:12,328 --> 01:25:14,328
unusual manner.

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01:25:17,700 --> 01:25:18,502
I also want to say thank you

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01:25:18,502 --> 01:25:22,102
for those who are here from

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01:25:23,674 --> 01:25:24,374
the church where I pastor Mount

543
01:25:24,374 --> 01:25:27,974
Airy Baptist Church Can I get

544
01:25:29,746 --> 01:25:33,946
you to stand and also let me

545
01:25:35,585 --> 01:25:36,453
recognize all of my pastor

546
01:25:36,453 --> 01:25:40,530
friends who are here and also

547
01:25:42,125 --> 01:25:42,492
friends in the community who

548
01:25:42,492 --> 01:25:43,393
are here.

549
01:25:43,393 --> 01:25:46,993
Thank you so much for being

550
01:25:47,898 --> 01:25:52,980
here and to let me know just

551
01:25:53,838 --> 01:25:54,638
how much you do appreciate what

552
01:25:54,638 --> 01:25:58,838
I have been trying to do and

553
01:25:59,443 --> 01:26:00,144
what GOD has called me to do.

554
01:26:00,144 --> 01:26:01,111
I've had the privilege of

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01:26:01,111 --> 01:26:05,311
living here in San Diego and I

556
01:26:06,684 --> 01:26:07,417
really thank and know that San

557
01:26:07,417 --> 01:26:11,170
Diego is the greatest city that

558
01:26:11,422 --> 01:26:12,389
you can live in.

559
01:26:12,389 --> 01:26:15,989
I had the privilege of living

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01:26:22,733 --> 01:26:23,400
here since 1949 and I just

561
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,000
don't know what I can say

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01:26:28,505 --> 01:26:29,573
because I thought when my mom

563
01:26:29,573 --> 01:26:34,373
and I moved here I was just a

564
01:26:34,845 --> 01:26:39,450
little nine year old kid and I

565
01:26:40,217 --> 01:26:40,885
thought that we were making

566
01:26:40,885 --> 01:26:41,685
the biggest mistake that we

567
01:26:41,685 --> 01:26:45,285
could ever make in terms of

568
01:26:46,356 --> 01:26:48,756
coming to San Diego.

569
01:26:52,496 --> 01:26:53,300
But I found out that GOD had

570
01:26:53,300 --> 01:26:53,864
ordered my steps.

571
01:26:53,864 --> 01:26:56,864
>> And that's really why that's

572
01:26:58,768 --> 01:27:02,968
really why I'm in such a great

573
01:27:03,507 --> 01:27:07,107
city because no one really can

574
01:27:09,245 --> 01:27:09,880
do for you or for me what GOD

575
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,880
has done because GOD works

576
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:16,921
through human instrumentality.

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01:27:16,921 --> 01:27:17,622
And I just want you to know

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01:27:17,622 --> 01:27:20,622
COUNCILMAN And and your staff

579
01:27:21,859 --> 01:27:22,526
and then all of those who have

580
01:27:22,526 --> 01:27:25,526
given sanction to doing this

581
01:27:27,932 --> 01:27:28,699
for me I certainly appreciate

582
01:27:28,699 --> 01:27:32,899
it from the depths of my heart

583
01:27:33,437 --> 01:27:33,738
and I will forever be grateful

584
01:27:33,738 --> 01:27:34,438
.

585
01:27:34,438 --> 01:27:35,105
I'm also reminded of the fact

586
01:27:35,105 --> 01:27:37,505
that usually when something

587
01:27:40,711 --> 01:27:44,311
like this has done the person

588
01:27:44,549 --> 01:27:48,149
that's deceased and I am by

589
01:27:50,955 --> 01:27:55,755
the grace of GOD to get to see

590
01:27:56,426 --> 01:27:57,127
what GOD can do and how GOD

591
01:27:57,127 --> 01:27:57,795
moves at such a mysterious way

592
01:27:57,795 --> 01:28:00,795
as one does to Papa.

593
01:28:03,670 --> 01:28:03,667
Thank you so much again for

594
01:28:03,667 --> 01:28:06,667
allowing me to be here.

595
01:28:08,805 --> 01:28:13,500
And of course to allow me to

596
01:28:19,817 --> 01:28:20,150
have these words of expression

597
01:28:20,150 --> 01:28:22,150
.

598
01:28:26,224 --> 01:28:27,191
Thank you.

599
01:28:27,191 --> 01:28:31,162
>> Pastor Wilson For me as I am

600
01:28:31,162 --> 01:28:31,928
in this seat I felt it was

601
01:28:31,928 --> 01:28:32,630
important to make sure as you

602
01:28:32,630 --> 01:28:33,640
say, typically this happens at

603
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:35,640
another time.

604
01:28:37,135 --> 01:28:37,802
I wanted to make sure that we

605
01:28:37,802 --> 01:28:38,469
recognize your service, your

606
01:28:38,469 --> 01:28:41,469
commitment so that you were

607
01:28:43,410 --> 01:28:43,741
able to be here in chambers and

608
01:28:43,741 --> 01:28:44,108
to say some words to our

609
01:28:44,108 --> 01:28:46,108
community.

610
01:28:47,912 --> 01:28:48,645
So one other thing that I would

611
01:28:48,645 --> 01:28:49,614
like to say briefly is I just

612
01:28:49,614 --> 01:28:52,183
want to make sure that we also

613
01:28:52,183 --> 01:28:54,583
recognize the first lady.

614
01:28:58,456 --> 01:28:59,890
>> When you took we didn't give

615
01:28:59,890 --> 01:28:59,591
the first lady a round of

616
01:28:59,591 --> 01:29:01,591
applause as well.

617
01:29:04,996 --> 01:29:05,463
Because I know that our good

618
01:29:05,463 --> 01:29:07,463
doctor Walter g.

619
01:29:09,834 --> 01:29:10,535
>> Wells I'm sure could not do

620
01:29:10,535 --> 01:29:13,535
what he is doing without

621
01:29:14,772 --> 01:29:15,540
the support and the first lady

622
01:29:15,540 --> 01:29:16,274
allowing him to serve and to be

623
01:29:16,274 --> 01:29:19,874
shared with the community as he

624
01:29:20,411 --> 01:29:20,779
is called to do the work of

625
01:29:20,779 --> 01:29:21,479
the Lord.

626
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:25,830
So thank you so much for all

627
01:29:25,830 --> 01:29:28,683
that you have done as well.

628
01:29:31,189 --> 01:29:31,856
>> So thank you.

629
01:29:31,856 --> 01:29:32,590
>> And with that Council

630
01:29:32,590 --> 01:29:36,190
PRESIDENT, I have one more item

631
01:29:37,262 --> 01:29:37,962
that I do need to touch on and

632
01:29:37,962 --> 01:29:40,362
that is item 6 or 4.

633
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:42,867
I believe that is the system

634
01:29:42,867 --> 01:29:43,602
that we are moving to in

635
01:29:43,602 --> 01:29:43,935
regards to our labor compliance

636
01:29:43,935 --> 01:29:45,935
system.

637
01:29:47,138 --> 01:29:47,805
It looks like it is on

638
01:29:47,805 --> 01:29:48,606
the consent agenda as well.

639
01:29:48,606 --> 01:29:52,744
I would like to register a no

640
01:29:52,744 --> 01:29:53,545
vote for that item as well as

641
01:29:53,545 --> 01:29:57,745
the city is moving in ending a

642
01:29:58,717 --> 01:29:59,517
contract in relationship with a

643
01:29:59,517 --> 01:30:00,552
black women a woman owned firm.

644
01:30:00,552 --> 01:30:04,752
And we are entering into a new

645
01:30:04,890 --> 01:30:07,890
agreement with a non certified

646
01:30:09,695 --> 01:30:10,610
firm at I believe over 100% of

647
01:30:10,610 --> 01:30:10,728
the cost.

648
01:30:10,728 --> 01:30:14,328
So we are doubling the cost.

649
01:30:14,565 --> 01:30:15,233
And unfortunately I just can't

650
01:30:15,233 --> 01:30:15,966
support removing a contract

651
01:30:15,966 --> 01:30:20,166
from a black woman and I'm firm

652
01:30:20,739 --> 01:30:21,106
that we are going to pay double

653
01:30:21,106 --> 01:30:21,906
the cost.

654
01:30:21,906 --> 01:30:24,676
So I will register a no vote

655
01:30:24,676 --> 01:30:25,476
for item six or for.

656
01:30:25,476 --> 01:30:25,812
>> And I will move the consent

657
01:30:25,812 --> 01:30:27,812
agenda.

658
01:30:30,247 --> 01:30:30,849
All right.

659
01:30:30,849 --> 01:30:31,183
Thank you, Councilmember

660
01:30:31,183 --> 01:30:31,916
Foster.

661
01:30:31,916 --> 01:30:32,417
So we do have a motion to move

662
01:30:32,417 --> 01:30:34,417
the consent items.

663
01:30:35,587 --> 01:30:35,921
I will jump in relatively

664
01:30:35,921 --> 01:30:37,921
quickly.

665
01:30:41,250 --> 01:30:42,160
Second, the consent items.

666
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:45,760
On 638 I happen to notice that

667
01:30:47,165 --> 01:30:47,933
clearly the good reverend lived

668
01:30:47,933 --> 01:30:52,133
life being both in terms of his

669
01:30:53,380 --> 01:30:53,338
faith and in terms of community

670
01:30:53,338 --> 01:30:54,390
.

671
01:30:54,390 --> 01:30:54,640
So it's certainly appropriate

672
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:55,273
that you've gone back on

673
01:30:55,273 --> 01:30:55,907
the honorary street name.

674
01:30:55,907 --> 01:30:58,307
So thank you Councilmember

675
01:30:58,777 --> 01:30:59,645
Foster for that.

676
01:30:59,645 --> 01:31:00,445
A lot of individuals spoke to

677
01:31:00,445 --> 01:31:04,450
item 6 or 5 the rmr Ave funds.

678
01:31:04,683 --> 01:31:05,350
This is a second reading which

679
01:31:05,350 --> 01:31:08,350
gives us almost no actually

680
01:31:09,588 --> 01:31:09,888
gives us no latitude to change

681
01:31:09,888 --> 01:31:10,555
it.

682
01:31:10,555 --> 01:31:11,189
We have been talking about

683
01:31:11,189 --> 01:31:13,589
tapping into this funding

684
01:31:15,427 --> 01:31:16,161
source as an option to fund

685
01:31:16,161 --> 01:31:16,795
the multi-modal team throughout

686
01:31:16,795 --> 01:31:18,795
our budget conversations.

687
01:31:20,933 --> 01:31:21,733
So to be clear, if the council

688
01:31:21,733 --> 01:31:22,367
takes a budget action tomorrow

689
01:31:22,367 --> 01:31:24,767
that utilizes this funding

690
01:31:26,671 --> 01:31:27,339
source, the Council will go

691
01:31:27,339 --> 01:31:28,400
through a second process to

692
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,400
reallocate those funds to pick

693
01:31:33,780 --> 01:31:33,779
up the multimodal team and then

694
01:31:33,779 --> 01:31:34,446
remove some of the slurry seal

695
01:31:34,446 --> 01:31:37,446
that was currently in there.

696
01:31:37,983 --> 01:31:38,617
So we need to take an action

697
01:31:38,617 --> 01:31:41,617
tomorrow on that before we

698
01:31:43,655 --> 01:31:44,223
would amend our rtm our

699
01:31:44,223 --> 01:31:44,923
agreement on item 626.

700
01:31:44,923 --> 01:31:47,923
The Mobility Board Thank you.

701
01:31:49,728 --> 01:31:50,495
The District one resident Harry

702
01:31:50,495 --> 01:31:51,196
Baba and I see him in the back

703
01:31:51,196 --> 01:31:51,764
for your continued service on

704
01:31:51,764 --> 01:31:54,164
the mobility board and

705
01:31:55,334 --> 01:31:56,340
congratulations on a

706
01:31:56,340 --> 01:31:56,768
reappointment and thank you to

707
01:31:56,768 --> 01:32:00,205
everyone that is stepping up to

708
01:32:00,205 --> 01:32:01,730
serve the public.

709
01:32:01,730 --> 01:32:01,774
Item 636 a resolution affirming

710
01:32:01,774 --> 01:32:04,774
the city's commitment to limit

711
01:32:06,450 --> 01:32:06,678
greenhouse gas emissions.

712
01:32:06,678 --> 01:32:07,412
I brought this item to

713
01:32:07,412 --> 01:32:08,130
the Rules Committee in APRIL in

714
01:32:08,130 --> 01:32:10,413
response to the Federal

715
01:32:10,983 --> 01:32:11,684
Government's recent rescission

716
01:32:11,684 --> 01:32:14,840
of the epa's 2009 endangerment

717
01:32:16,888 --> 01:32:17,622
finding that 29 fun finding

718
01:32:17,622 --> 01:32:20,622
based on science curbed vehicle

719
01:32:21,794 --> 01:32:22,494
emissions and put greenhouse

720
01:32:22,494 --> 01:32:22,895
gas emission limits in place

721
01:32:22,895 --> 01:32:23,629
nationwide.

722
01:32:23,629 --> 01:32:26,629
This resolution is a commitment

723
01:32:27,333 --> 01:32:28,100
to our values, to science and

724
01:32:28,100 --> 01:32:28,800
standing up to stand up to

725
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,800
those who deny climate change

726
01:32:32,770 --> 01:32:33,339
and its public health impacts

727
01:32:33,339 --> 01:32:34,390
on our communities.

728
01:32:34,390 --> 01:32:34,406
And without that I will second

729
01:32:34,406 --> 01:32:35,206
the item.

730
01:32:35,206 --> 01:32:39,277
So we have a motion by Council

731
01:32:39,277 --> 01:32:39,946
member Foster a second by

732
01:32:39,946 --> 01:32:40,613
myself and will go next to

733
01:32:40,613 --> 01:32:43,130
Council member von Boulder.

734
01:32:44,183 --> 01:32:44,783
Thank you very much.

735
01:32:44,783 --> 01:32:46,783
Equipment item 638.

736
01:32:48,286 --> 01:32:48,821
Pastor Well congratulations And

737
01:32:48,821 --> 01:32:49,522
to your First Lady.

738
01:32:49,522 --> 01:32:50,550
Congratulations and thank you

739
01:32:50,550 --> 01:32:50,790
for all you've done.

740
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:54,930
It's beautiful to see you speak

741
01:32:54,930 --> 01:32:55,160
today.

742
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:55,828
And on item 614 I want to thank

743
01:32:55,828 --> 01:32:58,228
the department for bringing

744
01:32:59,265 --> 01:32:59,932
forward the focus contract for

745
01:32:59,932 --> 01:33:00,299
wellness That is critically

746
01:33:00,299 --> 01:33:02,299
important.

747
01:33:02,801 --> 01:33:03,402
We continue wellness for our

748
01:33:03,402 --> 01:33:04,360
first responders and our

749
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:04,770
lifeguards should also get

750
01:33:04,770 --> 01:33:07,770
access to wellness services And

751
01:33:08,730 --> 01:33:08,808
I hope that we're able to do

752
01:33:08,808 --> 01:33:09,642
that in the budget tomorrow.

753
01:33:09,642 --> 01:33:13,512
And then I just I do have a

754
01:33:13,512 --> 01:33:15,912
question for Department of

755
01:33:18,150 --> 01:33:18,450
Transportation folks on item

756
01:33:18,450 --> 01:33:19,318
621.

757
01:33:19,318 --> 01:33:23,189
I if anyone is here from your

758
01:33:23,189 --> 01:33:24,560
station who can answer

759
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,560
questions on item 621 which is

760
01:33:27,193 --> 01:33:27,893
a settlement, we're paying out

761
01:33:27,893 --> 01:33:28,561
$600,000 to a motorcyclist who

762
01:33:28,561 --> 01:33:29,128
was injured on a portion of

763
01:33:29,128 --> 01:33:31,128
Rancho Bernardo Road.

764
01:33:32,431 --> 01:33:33,165
It's Rancho Bernardo Center

765
01:33:33,165 --> 01:33:36,765
Drive which I have been telling

766
01:33:38,871 --> 01:33:39,539
the city for years has been a

767
01:33:39,539 --> 01:33:40,273
mess And so I know we're

768
01:33:40,273 --> 01:33:41,106
working on a plan to repay that

769
01:33:41,106 --> 01:33:42,942
but when are we going to repave

770
01:33:42,942 --> 01:33:43,408
it?

771
01:33:43,408 --> 01:33:44,110
>> Good morning.

772
01:33:44,110 --> 01:33:44,810
Naomi Chavez, interim director

773
01:33:44,810 --> 01:33:46,810
for Transportation Department.

774
01:33:49,470 --> 01:33:49,782
We are factoring that into our

775
01:33:49,782 --> 01:33:50,483
paving schedule for fiscal year

776
01:33:50,483 --> 01:33:53,483
27 and that is something that

777
01:33:54,186 --> 01:33:54,720
we can prioritize for the first

778
01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:57,120
quarter of the year.

779
01:33:58,558 --> 01:33:59,391
>> It could be due in JULY.

780
01:33:59,391 --> 01:33:59,692
We can certainly look into it.

781
01:33:59,692 --> 01:34:01,692
Okay.

782
01:34:04,297 --> 01:34:04,964
I just.

783
01:34:04,964 --> 01:34:07,364
Between Rancho Bernardo Road

784
01:34:07,533 --> 01:34:08,300
and Cro-Magnon Road we paid a

785
01:34:08,300 --> 01:34:09,100
600,000 out to a motorcyclist

786
01:34:09,100 --> 01:34:09,469
who's injured on Carl Mountain

787
01:34:09,469 --> 01:34:11,469
Road last year.

788
01:34:12,370 --> 01:34:15,370
We now paid $1.2 million in

789
01:34:15,475 --> 01:34:15,975
settlements on road injuries in

790
01:34:15,975 --> 01:34:16,743
my district.

791
01:34:16,743 --> 01:34:17,445
Two roads that we have been

792
01:34:17,445 --> 01:34:17,877
trying to tell the department

793
01:34:17,877 --> 01:34:19,877
are a problem.

794
01:34:21,981 --> 01:34:22,582
That $1.2 million could have

795
01:34:22,582 --> 01:34:23,283
paid for the payment for

796
01:34:23,283 --> 01:34:26,885
the roads And so I just don't

797
01:34:26,885 --> 01:34:27,620
know how to better communicate.

798
01:34:27,620 --> 01:34:31,220
We know our districts you know,

799
01:34:31,591 --> 01:34:32,325
how do we better communicate to

800
01:34:32,325 --> 01:34:32,925
the department before liability

801
01:34:32,925 --> 01:34:35,925
occurs and then once an

802
01:34:36,229 --> 01:34:37,960
accident does happen, why don't

803
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:37,697
we instantly go and fix it so

804
01:34:37,697 --> 01:34:40,970
it doesn't happen again?

805
01:34:42,101 --> 01:34:42,968
We can have that conversation

806
01:34:42,968 --> 01:34:43,636
off line but it's just we need

807
01:34:43,636 --> 01:34:47,600
to stop the bleeding of city

808
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:47,674
settlement money out the door

809
01:34:47,674 --> 01:34:48,374
when we're trying to raise

810
01:34:48,374 --> 01:34:48,708
the alarm that these roads are

811
01:34:48,708 --> 01:34:50,708
a mess.

812
01:34:52,445 --> 01:34:53,313
So thank you for working on it

813
01:34:53,313 --> 01:34:54,130
but I am going to push to get

814
01:34:54,130 --> 01:34:54,646
this fixed immediately because

815
01:34:54,646 --> 01:34:57,460
if another plaintiff falls

816
01:34:57,500 --> 01:34:57,650
they're going to be able to

817
01:34:57,650 --> 01:34:58,284
have a past history and

818
01:34:58,284 --> 01:34:58,651
the damage will be through

819
01:34:58,651 --> 01:35:00,651
the roof.

820
01:35:03,423 --> 01:35:03,923
So I'm going to work I'm going

821
01:35:03,923 --> 01:35:04,224
to push for JULY.

822
01:35:04,224 --> 01:35:04,524
Okay.

823
01:35:04,524 --> 01:35:06,524
Okay.

824
01:35:08,127 --> 01:35:08,628
Thank you very much.

825
01:35:08,628 --> 01:35:09,129
>> Thank you.

826
01:35:09,129 --> 01:35:09,495
Council PRESIDENT.

827
01:35:09,495 --> 01:35:09,862
All right.

828
01:35:09,862 --> 01:35:10,563
Thank you.

829
01:35:10,563 --> 01:35:12,963
Council member Yvonne Wolpert.

830
01:35:13,399 --> 01:35:13,766
We'll go next to Council member

831
01:35:13,766 --> 01:35:14,134
Whitburn.

832
01:35:14,134 --> 01:35:14,634
Thank you.

833
01:35:14,634 --> 01:35:15,434
Council PRESIDENT.

834
01:35:15,434 --> 01:35:18,204
I want to join my colleagues in

835
01:35:18,204 --> 01:35:18,905
congratulating Pastor Wells on

836
01:35:18,905 --> 01:35:19,572
his well-deserved order and if

837
01:35:19,572 --> 01:35:22,909
they could for his words in

838
01:35:22,909 --> 01:35:23,643
chamber this morning and I

839
01:35:23,643 --> 01:35:24,344
think Council member Foster for

840
01:35:24,344 --> 01:35:27,344
bringing the item forward this

841
01:35:28,281 --> 01:35:28,915
morning I want to acknowledge

842
01:35:28,915 --> 01:35:31,315
the concerns the downtown

843
01:35:32,819 --> 01:35:33,553
residents have raised about

844
01:35:33,553 --> 01:35:36,553
the noise exemption language in

845
01:35:37,557 --> 01:35:38,324
the code update noises.

846
01:35:38,324 --> 01:35:38,992
Consistently one of the biggest

847
01:35:38,992 --> 01:35:41,992
issues that my office hears

848
01:35:42,429 --> 01:35:43,128
about from downtown residents.

849
01:35:43,128 --> 01:35:43,897
This language was not intended

850
01:35:43,897 --> 01:35:46,897
to create a capped exemption

851
01:35:47,767 --> 01:35:48,468
from the noise ordinance.

852
01:35:48,468 --> 01:35:50,868
Permitted activities do still

853
01:35:52,672 --> 01:35:53,273
have to go through it establish

854
01:35:53,273 --> 01:35:53,873
review process that does

855
01:35:53,873 --> 01:35:55,873
evaluate noise impacts.

856
01:35:58,378 --> 01:35:59,450
That said, I would like to ask

857
01:35:59,450 --> 01:35:59,746
our planning director Heidi

858
01:35:59,746 --> 01:36:02,349
about Blab who is with us this

859
01:36:02,349 --> 01:36:02,682
morning if she could speak to

860
01:36:02,682 --> 01:36:03,383
this.

861
01:36:03,383 --> 01:36:03,984
>> Good morning Council member

862
01:36:03,984 --> 01:36:04,484
Washburn and members of

863
01:36:04,484 --> 01:36:06,484
the City Council.

864
01:36:08,554 --> 01:36:09,255
I did distribute a memo on

865
01:36:09,255 --> 01:36:09,956
Friday in response to concerns

866
01:36:09,956 --> 01:36:13,930
that we had received from both

867
01:36:13,930 --> 01:36:13,793
the downtown Community Planning

868
01:36:13,793 --> 01:36:14,427
Group as well as the community

869
01:36:14,427 --> 01:36:14,895
planners committee on this

870
01:36:14,895 --> 01:36:16,895
particular item.

871
01:36:18,565 --> 01:36:19,232
I do want to provide

872
01:36:19,232 --> 01:36:19,933
the additional clarification

873
01:36:19,933 --> 01:36:22,835
and certainty to this Council

874
01:36:22,835 --> 01:36:23,536
and members of the public that

875
01:36:23,536 --> 01:36:24,204
the item is not intended to

876
01:36:24,204 --> 01:36:24,604
exempt users from the noise

877
01:36:24,604 --> 01:36:26,604
regulations.

878
01:36:27,741 --> 01:36:28,375
Noise regulations are an

879
01:36:28,375 --> 01:36:31,375
important part of our land

880
01:36:32,845 --> 01:36:33,680
development code and land uses.

881
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:34,481
And really the clarification is

882
01:36:34,481 --> 01:36:38,810
just of existing law and it

883
01:36:38,184 --> 01:36:38,852
provides a call out for

884
01:36:38,852 --> 01:36:39,519
instances where the city has

885
01:36:39,519 --> 01:36:41,919
carefully considered the use

886
01:36:43,623 --> 01:36:44,324
through discretionary process

887
01:36:44,324 --> 01:36:44,690
where noise impacts have been

888
01:36:44,690 --> 01:36:45,125
evaluated.

889
01:36:45,125 --> 01:36:45,491
>> Thank you.

890
01:36:45,491 --> 01:36:47,491
Thank you.

891
01:36:48,428 --> 01:36:49,128
So I blub.

892
01:36:49,128 --> 01:36:49,796
My office will stay engaged

893
01:36:49,796 --> 01:36:50,960
with residents and with city

894
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,960
staff.

895
01:36:53,834 --> 01:36:54,468
How those protections are

896
01:36:54,468 --> 01:36:56,468
structured going forward.

897
01:36:58,805 --> 01:36:59,105
Certainly a legitimate concern

898
01:36:59,105 --> 01:36:59,805
.

899
01:36:59,805 --> 01:37:02,805
I also appreciate those who

900
01:37:04,678 --> 01:37:05,411
coveted the project list for

901
01:37:05,411 --> 01:37:06,113
the Abrade the rebate that said

902
01:37:06,113 --> 01:37:06,746
rehabilitation account funds.

903
01:37:06,746 --> 01:37:08,782
As I mentioned during our

904
01:37:08,782 --> 01:37:09,483
budget hearing on Friday, I

905
01:37:09,483 --> 01:37:10,183
share the view that we should

906
01:37:10,183 --> 01:37:13,183
restore the multimodal team to

907
01:37:13,654 --> 01:37:14,388
the budget.

908
01:37:14,388 --> 01:37:14,954
Like Council PRESIDENT LaCava I

909
01:37:14,954 --> 01:37:17,954
don't want to do that.

910
01:37:19,426 --> 01:37:20,600
The item that is in front of us

911
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:20,761
is the Council PRESIDENT.

912
01:37:20,761 --> 01:37:23,729
This is the second reading of

913
01:37:23,729 --> 01:37:24,465
this item and it includes

914
01:37:24,465 --> 01:37:27,465
the implementation of the speed

915
01:37:28,768 --> 01:37:29,470
management plan which has

916
01:37:29,470 --> 01:37:30,104
funding for the city wide

917
01:37:30,104 --> 01:37:30,737
reduction of posted speed

918
01:37:30,737 --> 01:37:31,405
limits which is also very

919
01:37:31,405 --> 01:37:33,805
important to making streets

920
01:37:34,274 --> 01:37:34,674
safer for pedestrians and

921
01:37:34,674 --> 01:37:35,274
bicyclists.

922
01:37:35,274 --> 01:37:36,900
Since this is the second

923
01:37:36,900 --> 01:37:39,546
reading of the item, if we were

924
01:37:39,546 --> 01:37:40,246
to change it today we'd have to

925
01:37:40,246 --> 01:37:40,981
go back to the first reading.

926
01:37:40,981 --> 01:37:43,383
I don't want to hold all this

927
01:37:43,383 --> 01:37:44,840
up So as the Council PRESIDENT

928
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:44,717
Mentioned, there's still that

929
01:37:44,717 --> 01:37:45,318
opportunity in the budget

930
01:37:45,318 --> 01:37:47,318
conversation to restore

931
01:37:48,389 --> 01:37:49,220
the multimodal team if that is

932
01:37:49,220 --> 01:37:49,723
the will of my colleagues.

933
01:37:49,723 --> 01:37:50,890
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

934
01:37:50,890 --> 01:37:50,457
All right.

935
01:37:50,457 --> 01:37:52,457
Thank you.

936
01:37:52,893 --> 01:37:53,627
Council member Whitburn.

937
01:37:53,627 --> 01:37:54,610
And we'll go next to Council

938
01:37:54,610 --> 01:37:54,595
Member Campo.

939
01:37:54,595 --> 01:37:55,295
Thank you very much.

940
01:37:55,295 --> 01:37:58,165
Council PRESIDENT Just want to

941
01:37:58,165 --> 01:37:58,799
reiterate an agreement with

942
01:37:58,799 --> 01:37:59,433
what you pointed out about

943
01:37:59,433 --> 01:38:00,134
the armor issue as well as

944
01:38:00,134 --> 01:38:02,534
Councilmember Weyburn in full

945
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:03,671
agreement with you there.

946
01:38:03,671 --> 01:38:04,370
Obviously technicality of

947
01:38:04,370 --> 01:38:04,805
getting this done today has to

948
01:38:04,805 --> 01:38:06,805
move forward.

949
01:38:07,708 --> 01:38:08,108
But I'm 1,000% behind what you

950
01:38:08,108 --> 01:38:10,108
pointed out.

951
01:38:11,678 --> 01:38:12,346
Furthermore, on item 642

952
01:38:12,346 --> 01:38:13,460
council PRESIDENT My sincere

953
01:38:13,460 --> 01:38:16,646
thank you for what you've done

954
01:38:16,650 --> 01:38:17,151
and you to Councilmember

955
01:38:17,151 --> 01:38:17,818
Whitburn on 642.

956
01:38:17,818 --> 01:38:18,485
That concludes my comments.

957
01:38:18,485 --> 01:38:20,954
All right Thank you Council

958
01:38:20,954 --> 01:38:21,589
member camp We'll go next to

959
01:38:21,589 --> 01:38:22,220
council member Eli Rivera.

960
01:38:22,220 --> 01:38:22,389
>> All right.

961
01:38:22,389 --> 01:38:24,389
Thank you.

962
01:38:25,792 --> 01:38:26,459
Council PRESIDENT.

963
01:38:26,459 --> 01:38:28,859
I'll start by thanking

964
01:38:31,832 --> 01:38:32,499
Councilmember Foster for

965
01:38:32,499 --> 01:38:32,867
bringing forward the street

966
01:38:32,867 --> 01:38:33,601
renaming.

967
01:38:33,601 --> 01:38:34,670
I do really appreciate that you

968
01:38:34,670 --> 01:38:36,300
did the timing.

969
01:38:36,300 --> 01:38:36,537
I think about, you know, one of

970
01:38:36,537 --> 01:38:38,537
the street renaming.

971
01:38:40,641 --> 01:38:41,408
So we did in my district and

972
01:38:41,408 --> 01:38:45,212
how nice it would have been for

973
01:38:45,212 --> 01:38:48,812
that person to hear the words

974
01:38:50,584 --> 01:38:51,318
and so well-deserved Pastor and

975
01:38:51,318 --> 01:38:51,952
I'm glad that the timing worked

976
01:38:51,952 --> 01:38:54,487
out in this sort of way.

977
01:38:54,487 --> 01:38:55,189
Thank you for having

978
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:55,889
the intentionality to do that

979
01:38:55,889 --> 01:38:59,489
and the way that you've done

980
01:39:00,126 --> 01:39:04,326
And then I want to express my

981
01:39:05,132 --> 01:39:05,466
appreciation for the advocates

982
01:39:05,466 --> 01:39:07,466
.

983
01:39:09,103 --> 01:39:09,837
Related to item 6o5I said it

984
01:39:09,837 --> 01:39:10,538
last week I'll say it again You

985
01:39:10,538 --> 01:39:11,505
know we're being pulled in a

986
01:39:11,505 --> 01:39:14,505
lot of directions here and

987
01:39:15,943 --> 01:39:18,343
oftentimes the tension between

988
01:39:20,140 --> 01:39:23,140
wanting to fund important work

989
01:39:25,753 --> 01:39:26,521
and being willing to ask folks

990
01:39:26,521 --> 01:39:30,121
to resource that work makes it

991
01:39:30,491 --> 01:39:30,758
very difficult to bridge that

992
01:39:30,758 --> 01:39:31,759
gap.

993
01:39:31,759 --> 01:39:35,630
And in this case we had some

994
01:39:35,630 --> 01:39:36,329
advocates and folks here at

995
01:39:36,329 --> 01:39:39,433
the city who continue to work

996
01:39:39,433 --> 01:39:40,670
for ways to find creative

997
01:39:40,670 --> 01:39:42,467
solutions to use existing

998
01:39:44,972 --> 01:39:45,673
resources to do to do important

999
01:39:45,673 --> 01:39:46,474
work to keep our streets safe.

1000
01:39:46,474 --> 01:39:49,977
It doesn't mean it doesn't come

1001
01:39:49,977 --> 01:39:50,711
without tradeoffs, but we're

1002
01:39:50,711 --> 01:39:51,379
being, I think very transparent

1003
01:39:51,379 --> 01:39:54,148
on what those tradeoffs are.

1004
01:39:54,148 --> 01:39:54,815
So Council PRESIDENT Thank you

1005
01:39:54,815 --> 01:39:57,215
for statements you've made.

1006
01:39:59,687 --> 01:40:00,455
I'm glad to hear councilmembers

1007
01:40:00,455 --> 01:40:00,887
Whitburn and Campo are also on

1008
01:40:00,887 --> 01:40:02,887
the same page.

1009
01:40:04,158 --> 01:40:04,892
And again I think just a tip of

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01:40:04,892 --> 01:40:08,195
the cap to the creativity there

1011
01:40:08,195 --> 01:40:08,896
And again with the willingness

1012
01:40:08,896 --> 01:40:12,496
to to recognize that there are

1013
01:40:13,301 --> 01:40:14,350
some tradeoffs because that's

1014
01:40:14,350 --> 01:40:14,301
that's where that's where we're

1015
01:40:14,301 --> 01:40:15,300
at.

1016
01:40:15,300 --> 01:40:17,805
Until we have more resources,

1017
01:40:17,805 --> 01:40:18,473
there's going to continue to be

1018
01:40:18,473 --> 01:40:19,140
very challenging tradeoffs.

1019
01:40:19,140 --> 01:40:19,507
That concludes my comments.

1020
01:40:19,507 --> 01:40:20,700
Thank you.

1021
01:40:20,700 --> 01:40:20,375
Council PRESIDENT.

1022
01:40:20,375 --> 01:40:22,375
All right.

1023
01:40:23,277 --> 01:40:23,610
Thank you, Council member Eli

1024
01:40:23,610 --> 01:40:24,279
Rivera.

1025
01:40:24,279 --> 01:40:24,945
And we'll go next to Council

1026
01:40:24,945 --> 01:40:27,945
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee, then

1027
01:40:28,383 --> 01:40:29,170
Council PRESIDENT And and thank

1028
01:40:29,170 --> 01:40:29,750
you for mentioning fire in

1029
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:32,520
front of alley as we're both

1030
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:33,388
dealing with those evacuations

1031
01:40:33,388 --> 01:40:37,257
at the moment I do want to take

1032
01:40:37,257 --> 01:40:37,859
the moment to congratulate

1033
01:40:37,859 --> 01:40:38,526
Pastor Wells but also on

1034
01:40:38,526 --> 01:40:41,526
turnout of the community to

1035
01:40:42,363 --> 01:40:43,164
help celebrate that as well.

1036
01:40:43,164 --> 01:40:43,898
So imagine the opportunity when

1037
01:40:43,898 --> 01:40:46,668
you actually unveil it will be

1038
01:40:46,668 --> 01:40:47,368
a significant one in

1039
01:40:47,368 --> 01:40:48,690
the community And thanks to my

1040
01:40:48,690 --> 01:40:50,690
colleague Councilmember Foster

1041
01:40:52,106 --> 01:40:55,706
for for making this special I

1042
01:40:56,644 --> 01:40:57,479
just briefly wanted to note on

1043
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:58,113
item 626 a reappointment to

1044
01:40:58,113 --> 01:41:01,113
the Mobility Board of Jeff

1045
01:41:01,616 --> 01:41:02,216
Stosic from University City and

1046
01:41:02,216 --> 01:41:02,884
congratulate him on his

1047
01:41:02,884 --> 01:41:05,284
reappointment, thank him for

1048
01:41:05,754 --> 01:41:06,454
his service.

1049
01:41:06,454 --> 01:41:07,122
He's been a university city

1050
01:41:07,122 --> 01:41:09,522
resident for over 30 years.

1051
01:41:10,125 --> 01:41:10,859
I've been a very active

1052
01:41:10,859 --> 01:41:11,426
committee member and has really

1053
01:41:11,426 --> 01:41:13,426
advocated for public

1054
01:41:15,764 --> 01:41:16,431
transportation and mobility and

1055
01:41:16,431 --> 01:41:16,831
we appreciate his service on

1056
01:41:16,831 --> 01:41:17,264
that board.

1057
01:41:17,264 --> 01:41:19,264
So thank you.

1058
01:41:21,235 --> 01:41:21,603
Council PRESIDENT All right.

1059
01:41:21,603 --> 01:41:22,304
Thank you.

1060
01:41:22,304 --> 01:41:24,739
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

1061
01:41:24,739 --> 01:41:25,606
not see anyone else in the life

1062
01:41:25,606 --> 01:41:26,241
We do have a motion by council

1063
01:41:26,241 --> 01:41:29,241
member Foster a second by

1064
01:41:30,445 --> 01:41:30,779
myself to move the consent

1065
01:41:30,779 --> 01:41:31,479
items.

1066
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:32,180
Clerk please call the roll I'm

1067
01:41:32,180 --> 01:41:35,180
sorry The voting system Please

1068
01:41:42,189 --> 01:41:42,791
cast your vote That does pass

1069
01:41:42,791 --> 01:41:44,791
unanimously with Council

1070
01:41:45,427 --> 01:41:45,927
District four voting no on item

1071
01:41:45,927 --> 01:41:46,661
six so four.

1072
01:41:46,661 --> 01:41:47,280
>> Thank you Council PRESIDENT

1073
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:47,395
All right.

1074
01:41:47,395 --> 01:41:49,395
Thank you.

1075
01:41:50,398 --> 01:41:51,266
City Clerk.

1076
01:41:51,266 --> 01:41:51,933
And with that we will now take

1077
01:41:51,933 --> 01:41:54,333
up our morning discussion

1078
01:41:55,637 --> 01:41:56,471
agenda.

1079
01:41:56,471 --> 01:41:58,871
>> clerk Please introduce item

1080
01:41:59,408 --> 01:42:00,108
628.

1081
01:42:00,108 --> 01:42:00,842
Item 628 is the Pro housing

1082
01:42:00,842 --> 01:42:02,842
designation program application

1083
01:42:04,780 --> 01:42:05,480
If you'd like to speak on this

1084
01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:06,213
item please be sure to submit

1085
01:42:06,213 --> 01:42:09,551
Your speaker slips to the front

1086
01:42:09,551 --> 01:42:09,850
of the room into the clear box

1087
01:42:09,850 --> 01:42:10,619
.

1088
01:42:10,619 --> 01:42:11,252
And if you are participating

1089
01:42:11,252 --> 01:42:13,355
remotely now's the time to

1090
01:42:13,355 --> 01:42:14,220
raise your hand by pressing

1091
01:42:14,220 --> 01:42:14,389
Star nine or the raise your

1092
01:42:14,389 --> 01:42:15,890
hand icon.

1093
01:42:15,890 --> 01:42:15,456
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

1094
01:42:15,456 --> 01:42:17,456
All right.

1095
01:42:24,131 --> 01:42:25,990
Thank you.

1096
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:28,699
Want to take a little moment

1097
01:43:14,350 --> 01:43:14,850
Let the crowd

1098
01:43:14,850 --> 01:43:16,850
recognize it For

1099
01:43:17,218 --> 01:43:19,218
what it's worth.

1100
01:43:22,124 --> 01:43:22,490
Did you get that?

1101
01:43:22,490 --> 01:43:24,490
All right.

1102
01:43:26,928 --> 01:43:27,195
Now that we got the slide deck

1103
01:43:27,195 --> 01:43:27,762
up.

1104
01:43:27,762 --> 01:43:28,464
Staff please introduce

1105
01:43:28,464 --> 01:43:31,464
yourselves for the record and

1106
01:43:32,101 --> 01:43:32,768
let us know how much time you

1107
01:43:32,768 --> 01:43:33,235
need for your presentation.

1108
01:43:33,235 --> 01:43:35,235
>> Good morning.

1109
01:43:36,500 --> 01:43:36,872
Council members.

1110
01:43:36,872 --> 01:43:37,572
We should only need about five

1111
01:43:37,572 --> 01:43:39,972
minutes for our presentation.

1112
01:43:41,243 --> 01:43:42,770
All right, When you're ready.

1113
01:43:42,770 --> 01:43:42,711
My name is Melissa Garcia and

1114
01:43:42,711 --> 01:43:43,411
I'm a senior planner with

1115
01:43:43,411 --> 01:43:45,811
the city Planning Department.

1116
01:43:46,482 --> 01:43:47,115
Today I'm joined by Special

1117
01:43:47,115 --> 01:43:47,783
Need deputy director with

1118
01:43:47,783 --> 01:43:50,183
the City Planning Department

1119
01:43:50,619 --> 01:43:51,120
and Heidi Von Blum, city

1120
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:51,787
planning director.

1121
01:43:51,787 --> 01:43:53,220
Today we're here to present

1122
01:43:53,220 --> 01:43:56,220
the pro housing designation an

1123
01:43:58,327 --> 01:43:58,961
application the California

1124
01:43:58,961 --> 01:43:59,662
Department of Housing and

1125
01:43:59,662 --> 01:44:02,662
Community Development or h cd

1126
01:44:03,299 --> 01:44:03,999
created a pro housing

1127
01:44:03,999 --> 01:44:04,600
designation program to promote

1128
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,600
housing development and

1129
01:44:08,169 --> 01:44:08,804
acknowledge jurisdictions that

1130
01:44:08,804 --> 01:44:09,204
go above and beyond state

1131
01:44:09,204 --> 01:44:11,204
housing law.

1132
01:44:13,420 --> 01:44:13,709
The program provides incentives

1133
01:44:13,709 --> 01:44:14,410
to cities and counties in

1134
01:44:14,410 --> 01:44:17,410
the form of additional points

1135
01:44:18,130 --> 01:44:18,613
and preference in the scoring

1136
01:44:18,613 --> 01:44:19,247
of competitive housing,

1137
01:44:19,247 --> 01:44:21,247
community development and

1138
01:44:22,585 --> 01:44:23,285
infrastructure programs Pro

1139
01:44:23,285 --> 01:44:23,986
housing cities get additional

1140
01:44:23,986 --> 01:44:24,553
application points for several

1141
01:44:24,553 --> 01:44:26,553
state funding programs

1142
01:44:27,889 --> 01:44:28,490
including the Affordable

1143
01:44:28,490 --> 01:44:29,157
Housing and Sustainable

1144
01:44:29,157 --> 01:44:31,557
Communities Grant the infill

1145
01:44:32,194 --> 01:44:32,762
infrastructure grant

1146
01:44:32,762 --> 01:44:33,395
Transformative climate

1147
01:44:33,395 --> 01:44:35,395
Communities solutions for

1148
01:44:36,932 --> 01:44:37,666
congested Corridors, Local

1149
01:44:37,666 --> 01:44:40,660
Partnership Program Transit and

1150
01:44:42,138 --> 01:44:42,672
inner city rail capital Program

1151
01:44:42,672 --> 01:44:43,371
and a sustainable

1152
01:44:43,371 --> 01:44:43,706
transportation planning grant

1153
01:44:43,706 --> 01:44:45,706
program.

1154
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:47,776
Sandag also provides benefits

1155
01:44:47,776 --> 01:44:51,376
to pro housing cities in their

1156
01:44:51,413 --> 01:44:52,810
grant award process including

1157
01:44:52,810 --> 01:44:52,782
guaranteed points in the pro

1158
01:44:52,782 --> 01:44:55,182
housing section of competitive

1159
01:44:56,485 --> 01:44:57,119
grant applications for

1160
01:44:57,119 --> 01:44:57,687
the Smart Growth Incentive

1161
01:44:57,687 --> 01:44:58,387
Program and the Active

1162
01:44:58,387 --> 01:45:00,387
Transportation Grant Program.

1163
01:45:01,824 --> 01:45:02,558
The pro housing designation is

1164
01:45:02,558 --> 01:45:05,558
also required for certain state

1165
01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:06,929
grants like the upcoming

1166
01:45:06,929 --> 01:45:07,496
seventh round of the Homeless

1167
01:45:07,496 --> 01:45:09,496
Housing Assistance and

1168
01:45:10,866 --> 01:45:11,634
Prevention Program.

1169
01:45:11,634 --> 01:45:12,301
To be eligible to receive

1170
01:45:12,301 --> 01:45:14,701
the pro housing designation.

1171
01:45:16,272 --> 01:45:16,972
The city must have a certified

1172
01:45:16,972 --> 01:45:17,673
general plan housing element.

1173
01:45:17,673 --> 01:45:20,673
The city's housing element was

1174
01:45:21,310 --> 01:45:21,610
certified by hcd in SEPTEMBER

1175
01:45:21,610 --> 01:45:23,610
2021.

1176
01:45:25,748 --> 01:45:26,448
The city must also submit an

1177
01:45:26,448 --> 01:45:27,149
application to hpd explaining

1178
01:45:27,149 --> 01:45:30,149
its programs and policies that

1179
01:45:30,553 --> 01:45:31,220
promote home development.

1180
01:45:31,220 --> 01:45:34,220
The city received the pro

1181
01:45:34,724 --> 01:45:35,357
housing designation in 2020 to

1182
01:45:35,357 --> 01:45:36,590
and with one of the first

1183
01:45:36,590 --> 01:45:36,525
cities in the state to receive

1184
01:45:36,525 --> 01:45:38,525
the designation.

1185
01:45:40,363 --> 01:45:41,164
However, the city is required

1186
01:45:41,164 --> 01:45:44,467
to reapply in order to maintain

1187
01:45:44,467 --> 01:45:45,268
its designation.

1188
01:45:45,268 --> 01:45:46,200
The pro housing application has

1189
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:49,200
four categories for pro housing

1190
01:45:49,706 --> 01:45:50,730
policies favorable zoning and

1191
01:45:50,730 --> 01:45:50,673
land use.

1192
01:45:50,673 --> 01:45:52,673
Acceleration of housing

1193
01:45:54,477 --> 01:45:55,177
production timeframes.

1194
01:45:55,177 --> 01:45:55,912
Reduction of construction and

1195
01:45:55,912 --> 01:45:58,312
development costs and providing

1196
01:45:58,948 --> 01:45:59,883
financial subsidies.

1197
01:45:59,883 --> 01:46:00,683
A total of 30 points is needed

1198
01:46:00,683 --> 01:46:03,683
to obtain a pro housing

1199
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:04,987
designation and the city's

1200
01:46:04,987 --> 01:46:07,387
draft application contains a

1201
01:46:07,791 --> 01:46:08,490
total of 67 points.

1202
01:46:08,490 --> 01:46:10,890
Points included are attributed

1203
01:46:12,896 --> 01:46:13,630
to several of the city's pro

1204
01:46:13,630 --> 01:46:14,263
housing home incentive programs

1205
01:46:14,263 --> 01:46:16,263
like complete communities,

1206
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:18,268
affordable homes and all

1207
01:46:18,268 --> 01:46:19,200
communities and the numerous

1208
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:19,468
programs adopted in the housing

1209
01:46:19,468 --> 01:46:21,468
action packages.

1210
01:46:22,971 --> 01:46:23,606
Additional points are awarded

1211
01:46:23,606 --> 01:46:25,606
for streamlined approvals,

1212
01:46:27,176 --> 01:46:27,911
parking standards and home

1213
01:46:27,911 --> 01:46:28,545
funding and assistance programs

1214
01:46:28,545 --> 01:46:31,545
like the San Diego Housing

1215
01:46:31,580 --> 01:46:32,182
Trust Fund, Affordable housing

1216
01:46:32,182 --> 01:46:34,182
Preservation Fund and

1217
01:46:36,986 --> 01:46:37,654
the Rental Assistance Program.

1218
01:46:37,654 --> 01:46:38,354
The Pro housing designation

1219
01:46:38,354 --> 01:46:40,754
application requires the city

1220
01:46:42,250 --> 01:46:42,726
to conduct public outreach as

1221
01:46:42,726 --> 01:46:43,226
part of the process to fulfill

1222
01:46:43,226 --> 01:46:45,226
this requirement.

1223
01:46:46,997 --> 01:46:47,631
A draft Web page was created to

1224
01:46:47,631 --> 01:46:48,298
inform the public of this

1225
01:46:48,298 --> 01:46:51,701
effort and gather input on a

1226
01:46:51,701 --> 01:46:52,401
and the draft application and

1227
01:46:52,401 --> 01:46:52,669
an email notification was sent

1228
01:46:52,669 --> 01:46:53,269
out.

1229
01:46:53,269 --> 01:46:55,269
The Planning Department

1230
01:46:56,873 --> 01:46:57,574
requested input on the draft

1231
01:46:57,574 --> 01:46:58,173
application and the public and

1232
01:46:58,173 --> 01:47:00,573
this public City Council

1233
01:47:01,545 --> 01:47:02,780
hearing is also part of

1234
01:47:02,780 --> 01:47:02,512
the required public

1235
01:47:02,512 --> 01:47:04,512
participation.

1236
01:47:05,515 --> 01:47:06,115
Any comments received will be

1237
01:47:06,115 --> 01:47:06,683
considered when drafting

1238
01:47:06,683 --> 01:47:08,683
the final application.

1239
01:47:10,554 --> 01:47:11,253
The next steps in this process

1240
01:47:11,253 --> 01:47:11,854
include collecting all public

1241
01:47:11,854 --> 01:47:14,254
input received from this

1242
01:47:15,725 --> 01:47:16,226
process including any comments

1243
01:47:16,226 --> 01:47:16,893
from this hearing.

1244
01:47:16,893 --> 01:47:18,893
Finalizing the Application.

1245
01:47:21,264 --> 01:47:22,232
Submitting the application to

1246
01:47:22,232 --> 01:47:25,535
hd hd has 60 days to review

1247
01:47:25,535 --> 01:47:25,902
the application once it's

1248
01:47:25,902 --> 01:47:26,637
received.

1249
01:47:26,637 --> 01:47:29,637
Following the 60 days hd hd

1250
01:47:30,407 --> 01:47:30,941
will notify the city if

1251
01:47:30,941 --> 01:47:31,641
additional edits to

1252
01:47:31,641 --> 01:47:34,641
the application are needed or

1253
01:47:34,844 --> 01:47:35,611
if certification is granted.

1254
01:47:35,611 --> 01:47:36,312
Staff's recommendation is to

1255
01:47:36,312 --> 01:47:39,312
approve the proposed action to

1256
01:47:40,183 --> 01:47:40,717
submit an application for pro

1257
01:47:40,717 --> 01:47:42,717
housing designation.

1258
01:47:44,454 --> 01:47:45,880
Authorize the Mayor or designee

1259
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:45,789
to enter into, execute and

1260
01:47:45,789 --> 01:47:48,189
deliver all documents required

1261
01:47:48,858 --> 01:47:49,593
to participate in the pro

1262
01:47:49,593 --> 01:47:50,326
housing designation program and

1263
01:47:50,326 --> 01:47:53,764
acknowledge that the city is in

1264
01:47:53,764 --> 01:47:54,531
compliance with applicable

1265
01:47:54,531 --> 01:47:55,198
state law and will refrain from

1266
01:47:55,198 --> 01:47:58,198
taking action to inhibit or

1267
01:47:58,434 --> 01:47:59,350
constrain housing production

1268
01:47:59,350 --> 01:47:59,736
and will commit to

1269
01:47:59,736 --> 01:48:00,700
affirmatively furthering fair

1270
01:48:00,700 --> 01:48:00,637
housing.

1271
01:48:00,637 --> 01:48:02,637
That concludes staff's

1272
01:48:03,674 --> 01:48:04,441
presentation.

1273
01:48:04,441 --> 01:48:04,808
>> We're available to answer

1274
01:48:04,808 --> 01:48:05,174
questions.

1275
01:48:05,174 --> 01:48:05,542
Thank you.

1276
01:48:05,542 --> 01:48:07,542
All right.

1277
01:48:08,745 --> 01:48:09,790
Thank you for the presentation

1278
01:48:09,790 --> 01:48:09,846
.

1279
01:48:09,846 --> 01:48:10,313
>> clerk Please proceed with

1280
01:48:10,313 --> 01:48:10,681
public comment.

1281
01:48:10,681 --> 01:48:12,681
Thank you.

1282
01:48:14,585 --> 01:48:15,185
Can I have Joyce Senator

1283
01:48:15,185 --> 01:48:15,519
Allegedly Audra and Max

1284
01:48:15,519 --> 01:48:17,519
Schmidt.

1285
01:48:18,121 --> 01:48:18,755
Max Schmidt, please come up to

1286
01:48:18,755 --> 01:48:21,155
the yellow reserved seats.

1287
01:48:23,327 --> 01:48:24,270
Joey, we'll start with you.

1288
01:48:24,270 --> 01:48:24,828
>> Probably very short.

1289
01:48:24,828 --> 01:48:27,828
I think it's one sentence

1290
01:48:28,999 --> 01:48:31,999
profiles saying big yes to

1291
01:48:33,637 --> 01:48:34,238
anything in support of Hap A.P.

1292
01:48:34,238 --> 01:48:34,671
Funding from the state.

1293
01:48:34,671 --> 01:48:37,710
Got to get it.

1294
01:48:38,108 --> 01:48:38,542
Got to have it in place long

1295
01:48:38,542 --> 01:48:40,542
term Ongoing.

1296
01:48:42,445 --> 01:48:43,147
And a big thank you to

1297
01:48:43,147 --> 01:48:45,547
the Planning Department Heidi.

1298
01:48:47,484 --> 01:48:48,152
>> I just did Heidi.

1299
01:48:48,152 --> 01:48:50,552
Isn't she something else?

1300
01:48:52,590 --> 01:48:53,457
She's just I'm adding time but

1301
01:48:53,457 --> 01:48:56,960
I just had to say that I'm just

1302
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:57,795
amazed by her brilliance.

1303
01:48:57,795 --> 01:48:58,195
And what would we do without

1304
01:48:58,195 --> 01:49:00,195
her really?

1305
01:49:02,265 --> 01:49:02,633
So thank you very much.

1306
01:49:02,633 --> 01:49:02,932
>> Yes.

1307
01:49:02,932 --> 01:49:03,334
Yes.

1308
01:49:03,334 --> 01:49:05,334
Thank you.

1309
01:49:10,941 --> 01:49:11,875
Allegedly Audra.

1310
01:49:11,875 --> 01:49:15,475
>> It'd be nice if you guys

1311
01:49:16,148 --> 01:49:16,547
really provided housing.

1312
01:49:16,547 --> 01:49:17,281
It's crazy.

1313
01:49:17,281 --> 01:49:17,748
You guys will go through hoops

1314
01:49:17,748 --> 01:49:19,748
to get funding.

1315
01:49:20,850 --> 01:49:21,584
As long as you follow policies

1316
01:49:21,584 --> 01:49:24,584
and procedures which looks like

1317
01:49:25,389 --> 01:49:25,990
you're like doing the right

1318
01:49:25,990 --> 01:49:26,724
thing but you're failing

1319
01:49:26,724 --> 01:49:29,124
miserably And who's determining

1320
01:49:30,610 --> 01:49:30,728
what's affordable Because I

1321
01:49:30,728 --> 01:49:31,428
mean people already tell you

1322
01:49:31,428 --> 01:49:34,980
when they come in here I mean

1323
01:49:34,980 --> 01:49:34,865
they're just trying to survive

1324
01:49:34,865 --> 01:49:35,565
while you guys you know, up

1325
01:49:35,565 --> 01:49:39,165
the taxes on anything or fees

1326
01:49:39,536 --> 01:49:40,204
or more parking or whatever it

1327
01:49:40,204 --> 01:49:40,905
is And it's like you know

1328
01:49:40,905 --> 01:49:43,905
there's that's just the way

1329
01:49:44,875 --> 01:49:45,643
the government works though.

1330
01:49:45,643 --> 01:49:46,310
And it's sad because people

1331
01:49:46,310 --> 01:49:49,310
actually think that you guys

1332
01:49:49,446 --> 01:49:50,247
are good stewards of our money

1333
01:49:50,247 --> 01:49:53,847
that you're not you know, just

1334
01:49:54,851 --> 01:49:55,586
trying to follow a policy.

1335
01:49:55,586 --> 01:49:56,287
Well, the policy should be that

1336
01:49:56,287 --> 01:49:58,687
you provide affordable housing

1337
01:49:59,523 --> 01:50:00,124
and if you like affordable

1338
01:50:00,124 --> 01:50:00,791
housing is like being

1339
01:50:00,791 --> 01:50:01,425
determined by somebody who's

1340
01:50:01,425 --> 01:50:04,425
defining what a woman is.

1341
01:50:05,263 --> 01:50:05,930
It's like I mean you can just

1342
01:50:05,930 --> 01:50:06,230
say it's affordable all you

1343
01:50:06,230 --> 01:50:06,930
want.

1344
01:50:06,930 --> 01:50:09,634
It doesn't mean it really has

1345
01:50:09,634 --> 01:50:10,434
to be but it's just sad because

1346
01:50:10,434 --> 01:50:14,340
it's like you you know, you

1347
01:50:14,204 --> 01:50:14,872
want to create your plan and

1348
01:50:14,872 --> 01:50:15,606
you say we have this program

1349
01:50:15,606 --> 01:50:19,276
but then it's like you just you

1350
01:50:19,276 --> 01:50:19,844
just go outside and you see I

1351
01:50:19,844 --> 01:50:20,545
mean literally outside

1352
01:50:20,545 --> 01:50:23,748
the chamber you guys walk over

1353
01:50:23,748 --> 01:50:24,614
them at night.

1354
01:50:24,614 --> 01:50:28,786
I mean some people go give them

1355
01:50:28,786 --> 01:50:29,520
food but it's like it's kind of

1356
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:30,154
just like an eyesore like oh my

1357
01:50:30,154 --> 01:50:32,690
GOD, let's get to my car.

1358
01:50:32,690 --> 01:50:33,424
So I mean that should be in

1359
01:50:33,424 --> 01:50:37,240
itself a telltale sign that you

1360
01:50:37,427 --> 01:50:38,295
guys are failing because it's

1361
01:50:38,295 --> 01:50:38,763
not housing for all All of us.

1362
01:50:38,763 --> 01:50:40,763
All of us.

1363
01:50:42,533 --> 01:50:43,267
I mean you say that and again,

1364
01:50:43,267 --> 01:50:44,102
they're just words that you use

1365
01:50:44,102 --> 01:50:47,380
But I mean let's actually do

1366
01:50:47,380 --> 01:50:49,380
that.

1367
01:50:52,210 --> 01:50:52,876
>> You know I mean instead of

1368
01:50:52,876 --> 01:50:55,276
contracting with people like

1369
01:50:57,515 --> 01:50:58,182
Dreams for Change and that

1370
01:50:58,182 --> 01:51:01,182
people would die before they

1371
01:51:02,153 --> 01:51:03,210
get out of Tent City.

1372
01:51:03,210 --> 01:51:06,724
I mean just the way you guys

1373
01:51:06,724 --> 01:51:07,425
treat the homeless, it's that I

1374
01:51:07,425 --> 01:51:08,162
mean again, people will die on

1375
01:51:08,162 --> 01:51:11,162
these steps and yet we're

1376
01:51:11,695 --> 01:51:12,563
creating housing for all.

1377
01:51:12,563 --> 01:51:13,264
>> As long as you guys get that

1378
01:51:13,264 --> 01:51:13,698
money right then it can go to

1379
01:51:13,698 --> 01:51:14,980
your friends.

1380
01:51:14,980 --> 01:51:16,980
Good job.

1381
01:51:19,103 --> 01:51:21,103
Max Schmidt.

1382
01:51:23,708 --> 01:51:24,575
Hi.

1383
01:51:24,575 --> 01:51:28,175
I'm proposing to spend more tax

1384
01:51:28,612 --> 01:51:29,213
dollars on housing.

1385
01:51:29,213 --> 01:51:29,914
Affordable housing for

1386
01:51:29,914 --> 01:51:33,384
the homeless and whatnot is an

1387
01:51:33,384 --> 01:51:34,185
extremely, extremely, extremely

1388
01:51:34,185 --> 01:51:37,785
personal issue for me because I

1389
01:51:38,890 --> 01:51:39,757
lived in subsidized housing and

1390
01:51:39,757 --> 01:51:43,561
during that time I kid you not

1391
01:51:43,561 --> 01:51:47,161
I'm here to open Pandora's box.

1392
01:51:48,233 --> 01:51:49,340
I was targeted by Freemasons

1393
01:51:49,340 --> 01:51:49,701
and some call it mind control.

1394
01:51:49,701 --> 01:51:52,701
What exactly does that mean?

1395
01:51:53,671 --> 01:51:54,339
And I want to say one thing You

1396
01:51:54,339 --> 01:51:55,400
will not silence my voice by

1397
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:57,709
calling me a schizophrenic or

1398
01:51:57,709 --> 01:51:58,375
mentally ill and that this

1399
01:51:58,375 --> 01:51:59,440
isn't happening to American

1400
01:51:59,440 --> 01:51:59,777
patriots because it is what

1401
01:51:59,777 --> 01:52:02,813
happened when I was living in

1402
01:52:02,813 --> 01:52:03,682
the subsidized apartments was

1403
01:52:03,682 --> 01:52:07,282
that there was a constant ever

1404
01:52:08,286 --> 01:52:11,286
present voice that was saying

1405
01:52:12,924 --> 01:52:14,924
literally antagonizing me,

1406
01:52:17,562 --> 01:52:19,962
patronizing me, mocking me,

1407
01:52:22,534 --> 01:52:23,235
accusing me of things

1408
01:52:23,235 --> 01:52:25,635
constantly nonstop in my

1409
01:52:26,737 --> 01:52:27,405
apartment.

1410
01:52:27,405 --> 01:52:27,771
So the apartments are

1411
01:52:27,771 --> 01:52:29,771
untenable.

1412
01:52:32,144 --> 01:52:32,877
This is a serious problem.

1413
01:52:32,877 --> 01:52:33,545
>> Liberal cities are targeting

1414
01:52:33,545 --> 01:52:36,545
American patriots And yes, I

1415
01:52:37,820 --> 01:52:37,849
walk with patriot groups.

1416
01:52:37,849 --> 01:52:38,182
Yes, I stand up to people's

1417
01:52:38,182 --> 01:52:40,182
militia.

1418
01:52:40,985 --> 01:52:41,786
They're targeting American

1419
01:52:41,786 --> 01:52:44,786
patriots and the possessed and

1420
01:52:45,857 --> 01:52:46,725
the demon possessed liberal

1421
01:52:46,725 --> 01:52:49,725
politicians in San Diego are

1422
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:51,730
enabling it and working with

1423
01:52:51,730 --> 01:52:52,431
them.

1424
01:52:52,431 --> 01:52:54,831
They're all Masonic brothers

1425
01:52:55,967 --> 01:52:56,801
and their Masonic brothers

1426
01:52:56,801 --> 01:52:59,438
abroad and that's why they want

1427
01:52:59,438 --> 01:53:00,380
to create a one world

1428
01:53:00,380 --> 01:53:02,438
government and Satan is

1429
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:04,842
commanding them to do this.

1430
01:53:04,842 --> 01:53:05,176
So I know about a cult group

1431
01:53:05,176 --> 01:53:05,844
rituals.

1432
01:53:05,844 --> 01:53:08,547
I know about teleporting, I

1433
01:53:08,547 --> 01:53:09,347
know about cannibalism in

1434
01:53:09,347 --> 01:53:12,947
the Masonic Lodge you will not

1435
01:53:13,218 --> 01:53:13,919
silence my voice with 5150 laws

1436
01:53:13,919 --> 01:53:14,652
because they are communist and

1437
01:53:14,652 --> 01:53:17,522
the First Amendment still lives

1438
01:53:17,522 --> 01:53:17,923
in this country Down with

1439
01:53:17,923 --> 01:53:19,725
the occult.

1440
01:53:19,725 --> 01:53:22,725
I'm not crazy Town with

1441
01:53:25,764 --> 01:53:26,464
the echo Thank you.

1442
01:53:26,464 --> 01:53:27,199
Going to those participating

1443
01:53:27,199 --> 01:53:29,968
remotely as are the five minute

1444
01:53:29,968 --> 01:53:30,669
timer Hector if you can please.

1445
01:53:30,669 --> 01:53:33,669
And you currently have three

1446
01:53:34,606 --> 01:53:34,940
speakers in the queue please

1447
01:53:34,940 --> 01:53:35,307
proceed.

1448
01:53:35,307 --> 01:53:36,740
Thank you.

1449
01:53:36,740 --> 01:53:36,374
Thanks a lot for taking my

1450
01:53:36,374 --> 01:53:38,374
call.

1451
01:53:39,430 --> 01:53:39,578
Hey, the state is is is

1452
01:53:39,578 --> 01:53:41,578
democratic tyranny.

1453
01:53:44,983 --> 01:53:45,684
I would we don't need to be

1454
01:53:45,684 --> 01:53:46,452
linked with the state in a war

1455
01:53:46,452 --> 01:53:49,452
in my neighborhood And Linda

1456
01:53:49,588 --> 01:53:53,188
this Stop the hill from Mission

1457
01:53:53,358 --> 01:53:54,590
Valley 15 a news are coming on

1458
01:53:54,590 --> 01:53:56,459
board They're almost finished

1459
01:53:57,295 --> 01:53:58,130
now One block to houses they're

1460
01:53:58,130 --> 01:54:01,730
out in 1580 use under the old

1461
01:54:02,101 --> 01:54:05,101
program that the state planned

1462
01:54:06,271 --> 01:54:06,971
out and slipped it in there and

1463
01:54:06,971 --> 01:54:07,673
they haven't moved in yet But

1464
01:54:07,673 --> 01:54:10,900
all of a sudden there's going

1465
01:54:10,900 --> 01:54:10,643
to be 30 cars on one block and

1466
01:54:10,643 --> 01:54:13,643
there's no parking at all.

1467
01:54:15,460 --> 01:54:15,781
And also we've had an influx of

1468
01:54:15,781 --> 01:54:18,181
apartment buildings being built

1469
01:54:19,684 --> 01:54:20,352
like crazy in mission Valley

1470
01:54:20,352 --> 01:54:21,520
and Linda Vista up the hill

1471
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,390
where the fires were we might

1472
01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:24,823
have another 4000 units that

1473
01:54:24,823 --> 01:54:26,823
are available.

1474
01:54:29,294 --> 01:54:29,995
Are there going to be really

1475
01:54:29,995 --> 01:54:30,629
soon And they're building No,

1476
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:33,290
they're not affordable and

1477
01:54:34,266 --> 01:54:35,134
they're not occupied.

1478
01:54:35,134 --> 01:54:35,901
You know there's not a big run

1479
01:54:35,901 --> 01:54:38,901
through some people in there

1480
01:54:39,138 --> 01:54:41,538
but there's thousands units

1481
01:54:44,109 --> 01:54:44,810
already available and maybe

1482
01:54:44,810 --> 01:54:45,678
with the guys that built them

1483
01:54:45,678 --> 01:54:48,147
have them if you don't occupy

1484
01:54:48,147 --> 01:54:51,147
the units within six months

1485
01:54:52,518 --> 01:54:53,185
the rent is 500 bucks a month

1486
01:54:53,185 --> 01:54:56,185
That would occupy you know,

1487
01:54:57,255 --> 01:54:57,556
that would be really legitimate

1488
01:54:57,556 --> 01:54:58,324
.

1489
01:54:58,324 --> 01:55:01,924
We don't know more state stuff.

1490
01:55:02,661 --> 01:55:03,295
We don't need Let the builders

1491
01:55:03,295 --> 01:55:06,295
build their own houses and

1492
01:55:07,332 --> 01:55:07,666
let's do the mass deepwater

1493
01:55:07,666 --> 01:55:09,666
nation.

1494
01:55:11,403 --> 01:55:12,104
If we deported 150,000 people

1495
01:55:12,104 --> 01:55:12,772
to live in San Diego County

1496
01:55:12,772 --> 01:55:13,720
illegally, there'd be a lot

1497
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:15,720
less.

1498
01:55:16,409 --> 01:55:17,109
There'd be huge housing

1499
01:55:17,109 --> 01:55:19,109
available, affordable housing

1500
01:55:21,460 --> 01:55:21,346
there'd be competition for

1501
01:55:21,346 --> 01:55:23,346
rent.

1502
01:55:26,252 --> 01:55:26,953
So if we mass deportation now

1503
01:55:26,953 --> 01:55:27,553
at the convention center we

1504
01:55:27,553 --> 01:55:30,553
could get paid for it.

1505
01:55:31,924 --> 01:55:34,924
It'll be a reverse reverse.

1506
01:55:36,195 --> 01:55:36,895
You know Occupy they got to go

1507
01:55:36,895 --> 01:55:37,196
,man Let's do it.

1508
01:55:37,196 --> 01:55:37,763
Okay.

1509
01:55:37,763 --> 01:55:40,163
My next is Tony.

1510
01:55:42,835 --> 01:55:43,135
If you can please unmute.

1511
01:55:43,135 --> 01:55:45,135
Yes.

1512
01:55:47,573 --> 01:55:48,141
Can you hear me?

1513
01:55:48,141 --> 01:55:48,608
>> Yes, we can.

1514
01:55:48,608 --> 01:55:49,142
Please proceed.

1515
01:55:49,142 --> 01:55:49,574
Hey, how's it going?

1516
01:55:49,574 --> 01:55:51,574
City Council.

1517
01:55:52,211 --> 01:55:52,845
Hey, I just wanted to talk

1518
01:55:52,845 --> 01:55:53,579
about the article that was

1519
01:55:53,579 --> 01:55:56,579
released yesterday by the Times

1520
01:55:58,117 --> 01:55:58,817
of San Diego that was talking

1521
01:55:58,817 --> 01:55:59,485
about the license plate reader

1522
01:55:59,485 --> 01:56:02,485
that linked an innocent San

1523
01:56:03,188 --> 01:56:03,856
Diego man to a violent crime

1524
01:56:03,856 --> 01:56:04,156
that he was five miles away

1525
01:56:04,156 --> 01:56:06,156
from.

1526
01:56:07,326 --> 01:56:08,127
I would hope that all of y'all

1527
01:56:08,127 --> 01:56:08,795
would take a look at that

1528
01:56:08,795 --> 01:56:11,195
article and become familiar

1529
01:56:11,831 --> 01:56:12,699
with it and read it because

1530
01:56:12,699 --> 01:56:13,433
there's going to be a lot of

1531
01:56:13,433 --> 01:56:14,132
people showing up tomorrow that

1532
01:56:14,132 --> 01:56:14,834
are going to be talking about

1533
01:56:14,834 --> 01:56:17,103
it and you'll want to have it

1534
01:56:17,103 --> 01:56:17,837
as a reference point too For

1535
01:56:17,837 --> 01:56:18,471
those of you that are going to

1536
01:56:18,471 --> 01:56:20,871
be defending flock, you're

1537
01:56:21,941 --> 01:56:22,608
going to want to dissect that

1538
01:56:22,608 --> 01:56:23,375
article so that you can have

1539
01:56:23,375 --> 01:56:26,375
something to rebut And there

1540
01:56:27,179 --> 01:56:27,880
really is nothing This is

1541
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:28,514
the second week in a row or

1542
01:56:28,514 --> 01:56:31,383
rather the second time in

1543
01:56:31,383 --> 01:56:32,850
the last month that we've seen

1544
01:56:32,850 --> 01:56:35,850
Flock has completely failed If

1545
01:56:36,522 --> 01:56:39,558
it was having an audition it

1546
01:56:39,558 --> 01:56:40,327
would have lost its job already

1547
01:56:40,327 --> 01:56:41,270
because it failed two weeks ago

1548
01:56:41,270 --> 01:56:44,270
when it sent police to

1549
01:56:44,998 --> 01:56:45,697
the shopping center and they

1550
01:56:45,697 --> 01:56:46,399
took over two hours to respond

1551
01:56:46,399 --> 01:56:49,399
to the shooting that happened

1552
01:56:50,336 --> 01:56:51,137
at the Islamic center And then

1553
01:56:51,137 --> 01:56:53,306
it's mailed this man back in

1554
01:56:53,306 --> 01:56:54,107
NOVEMBER of 2025 actually just

1555
01:56:54,107 --> 01:56:57,776
a couple of weeks before we had

1556
01:56:57,776 --> 01:56:58,478
the big meeting about it And if

1557
01:56:58,478 --> 01:56:59,212
we had known that this had

1558
01:56:59,212 --> 01:57:02,212
happened back then, it probably

1559
01:57:03,115 --> 01:57:03,850
maybe hopefully would have

1560
01:57:03,850 --> 01:57:04,551
affected the council's decision

1561
01:57:04,551 --> 01:57:04,951
and the choice to vote the way

1562
01:57:04,951 --> 01:57:06,951
that it did.

1563
01:57:08,688 --> 01:57:09,389
Marni von Wilpert you just

1564
01:57:09,389 --> 01:57:11,389
expressed concern about

1565
01:57:11,657 --> 01:57:12,325
the potholes and the 1.5

1566
01:57:12,325 --> 01:57:12,959
million or that the million

1567
01:57:12,959 --> 01:57:15,359
dollar settlement by those

1568
01:57:16,262 --> 01:57:16,763
roads not getting fixed.

1569
01:57:16,763 --> 01:57:17,430
Well guess what?

1570
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:20,430
These two gentlemen who were

1571
01:57:21,367 --> 01:57:24,367
falsely arrested by this flock

1572
01:57:25,805 --> 01:57:26,506
Alper misreading by they're

1573
01:57:26,506 --> 01:57:28,875
both charging the city they're

1574
01:57:28,875 --> 01:57:29,308
both suing the city for 1.5

1575
01:57:29,308 --> 01:57:29,609
million each.

1576
01:57:29,609 --> 01:57:30,343
Right.

1577
01:57:30,343 --> 01:57:33,746
And that's more than the entire

1578
01:57:33,746 --> 01:57:34,514
cost of the flock contract for

1579
01:57:34,514 --> 01:57:35,214
this year which was supposed to

1580
01:57:35,214 --> 01:57:38,214
be 2 million And they're going

1581
01:57:38,518 --> 01:57:39,520
to get it because they were

1582
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:39,653
falsely imprisoned.

1583
01:57:39,653 --> 01:57:40,320
One of them was falsely

1584
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:43,320
imprisoned for over a month.

1585
01:57:45,592 --> 01:57:46,293
He spent Thanksgiving in jail

1586
01:57:46,293 --> 01:57:46,860
without his family because of

1587
01:57:46,860 --> 01:57:48,860
this misread misread

1588
01:57:52,532 --> 01:57:53,660
calculation by fluke We need to

1589
01:57:53,660 --> 01:57:53,734
cancel the contract.

1590
01:57:53,734 --> 01:57:54,467
>> Your time has concluded.

1591
01:57:54,467 --> 01:57:56,169
Blair Beakman If you can please

1592
01:57:56,169 --> 01:57:56,636
unmute after that our final

1593
01:57:56,636 --> 01:57:58,636
speaker is 7499.

1594
01:58:00,973 --> 01:58:01,641
>> Blair Hi Blair Beakman I

1595
01:58:01,641 --> 01:58:04,641
wanted to comment Thank you

1596
01:58:05,544 --> 01:58:06,346
much for this item but I think

1597
01:58:06,346 --> 01:58:10,216
I think there really can be a

1598
01:58:10,216 --> 01:58:10,951
way to develop a dialog with

1599
01:58:10,951 --> 01:58:11,351
the federal level on the future

1600
01:58:11,351 --> 01:58:13,351
of housing.

1601
01:58:14,788 --> 01:58:17,788
They always make it difficult

1602
01:58:19,493 --> 01:58:20,193
and it's just the nature of

1603
01:58:20,193 --> 01:58:20,893
Conservative party right wing

1604
01:58:20,893 --> 01:58:23,293
Republican practices But there

1605
01:58:24,765 --> 01:58:25,532
is ways that we can be working

1606
01:58:25,532 --> 01:58:28,769
on things that we can and what

1607
01:58:28,769 --> 01:58:29,535
this item can be doing.

1608
01:58:29,535 --> 01:58:33,135
The mayor when he just recently

1609
01:58:33,673 --> 01:58:34,374
became PRESIDENT Of the us

1610
01:58:34,374 --> 01:58:36,774
mayors conferences, mayors or

1611
01:58:38,712 --> 01:58:39,413
association whatever they are

1612
01:58:39,413 --> 01:58:40,180
he gave a speech He's

1613
01:58:40,180 --> 01:58:43,483
the leader now and he made a

1614
01:58:43,483 --> 01:58:44,840
speech that it's important that

1615
01:58:44,840 --> 01:58:47,840
we talk with our federal

1616
01:58:48,154 --> 01:58:48,922
agencies on housing and what we

1617
01:58:48,922 --> 01:58:49,623
can accomplish And I was really

1618
01:58:49,623 --> 01:58:52,623
impressed by that because man,

1619
01:58:52,926 --> 01:58:53,693
it's my feeling exactly.

1620
01:58:53,693 --> 01:58:54,600
I've been in the same place

1621
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:56,600
actually.

1622
01:58:57,397 --> 01:58:58,650
So boy good luck that I think

1623
01:58:58,650 --> 01:58:58,765
there is ways that we can

1624
01:58:58,765 --> 01:59:01,765
address the future of housing

1625
01:59:02,469 --> 01:59:03,690
that is kind of been on

1626
01:59:03,690 --> 01:59:05,469
the uprights I've heard

1627
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:07,707
actually in California So I

1628
01:59:07,707 --> 01:59:08,408
hope that can bring in

1629
01:59:08,408 --> 01:59:09,750
the concepts of middle income

1630
01:59:09,750 --> 01:59:12,479
housing and how much I think

1631
01:59:12,479 --> 01:59:13,246
what that really I mean there's

1632
01:59:13,246 --> 01:59:16,951
a many ways in what that can

1633
01:59:16,951 --> 01:59:17,651
really accomplish And for for

1634
01:59:17,651 --> 01:59:18,318
very low and extremely low

1635
01:59:18,318 --> 01:59:21,318
income housing how that is

1636
01:59:21,555 --> 01:59:22,255
hopeful and as long as we're

1637
01:59:22,255 --> 01:59:23,230
thinking of those two subjects

1638
01:59:23,230 --> 01:59:27,600
as the base of our future of

1639
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:27,360
housing, then we're in a good

1640
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:28,620
place.

1641
01:59:28,620 --> 01:59:31,662
And for our federal leaders to

1642
01:59:31,831 --> 01:59:32,666
understand that concept, man

1643
01:59:32,666 --> 01:59:33,167
that would be a lot And I think

1644
01:59:33,167 --> 01:59:35,567
we can do it.

1645
01:59:36,469 --> 01:59:37,700
And by doing that that's

1646
01:59:37,700 --> 01:59:37,404
building our sustainable

1647
01:59:37,404 --> 01:59:39,404
future.

1648
01:59:41,410 --> 01:59:41,508
Good luck in our efforts.

1649
01:59:41,508 --> 01:59:41,909
>> Thank you.

1650
01:59:41,909 --> 01:59:42,676
Thank you.

1651
01:59:42,676 --> 01:59:45,676
And our final speaker is 7499

1652
01:59:51,252 --> 01:59:51,818
If you can please unmute Bob

1653
01:59:51,818 --> 01:59:54,218
because I ski here.

1654
01:59:54,654 --> 01:59:55,355
I just want to endorse

1655
01:59:55,355 --> 01:59:55,923
the earlier comments opposing

1656
01:59:55,923 --> 01:59:57,923
surveillance and about

1657
01:59:59,726 --> 02:00:00,394
the deportation of illegal

1658
02:00:00,394 --> 02:00:01,940
citizens In particular it's

1659
02:00:01,940 --> 02:00:04,940
clear that our housing problem

1660
02:00:05,650 --> 02:00:05,766
could be greatly reduced by

1661
02:00:05,766 --> 02:00:06,266
deporting people who are here

1662
02:00:06,266 --> 02:00:06,933
against our laws.

1663
02:00:06,933 --> 02:00:09,333
However it's important for

1664
02:00:10,538 --> 02:00:11,238
citizens to realize that

1665
02:00:11,238 --> 02:00:14,838
the goals of this council and

1666
02:00:14,975 --> 02:00:15,710
of this mayor are not the same

1667
02:00:15,710 --> 02:00:19,310
as the goals of the citizens.

1668
02:00:19,747 --> 02:00:20,413
The council and the mayor want

1669
02:00:20,413 --> 02:00:21,820
more population in San Diego

1670
02:00:21,820 --> 02:00:24,820
because that makes them more

1671
02:00:24,985 --> 02:00:25,819
important and more powerful.

1672
02:00:25,819 --> 02:00:26,554
>> They don't really care about

1673
02:00:26,554 --> 02:00:29,554
what the citizens actually want

1674
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:30,658
like thinking.

1675
02:00:30,658 --> 02:00:31,225
>> That concludes public

1676
02:00:31,225 --> 02:00:31,592
comment on this item.

1677
02:00:31,592 --> 02:00:33,592
All right.

1678
02:00:34,795 --> 02:00:35,563
Thank you, City clerk.

1679
02:00:35,563 --> 02:00:36,197
With that will go to

1680
02:00:36,197 --> 02:00:38,597
the council for questions

1681
02:00:39,634 --> 02:00:40,334
Comments entertain a motion and

1682
02:00:40,334 --> 02:00:40,934
we'll start with the chair of

1683
02:00:40,934 --> 02:00:41,669
the Land Use and Housing

1684
02:00:41,669 --> 02:00:44,500
Committee Council PRESIDENT Pro

1685
02:00:44,500 --> 02:00:44,572
Tem Lee then council PRESIDENT

1686
02:00:44,572 --> 02:00:45,172
Thank you to Heidi and

1687
02:00:45,172 --> 02:00:45,873
the entire city planning

1688
02:00:45,873 --> 02:00:48,709
department since our last pro

1689
02:00:48,709 --> 02:00:49,343
housing designation in NOVEMBER

1690
02:00:49,343 --> 02:00:50,770
of 2022 Our annual housing

1691
02:00:50,770 --> 02:00:53,770
report shows that we've made

1692
02:00:54,515 --> 02:00:55,182
progress in our arena goals.

1693
02:00:55,182 --> 02:00:58,182
We've continued to pass out

1694
02:00:58,585 --> 02:00:59,320
proposing policies and continue

1695
02:00:59,320 --> 02:00:59,787
to affirmatively further fair

1696
02:00:59,787 --> 02:01:01,787
housing as well.

1697
02:01:03,491 --> 02:01:04,125
Applying from this continued

1698
02:01:04,125 --> 02:01:04,792
designation from the state

1699
02:01:04,792 --> 02:01:05,458
signifies our commitment to

1700
02:01:05,458 --> 02:01:08,195
expand our capacity to make

1701
02:01:08,195 --> 02:01:08,863
more homes available for our

1702
02:01:08,863 --> 02:01:09,597
working families, students,

1703
02:01:09,597 --> 02:01:09,964
seniors and our most vulnerable

1704
02:01:09,964 --> 02:01:11,964
residents.

1705
02:01:13,468 --> 02:01:14,340
And from there I think we can

1706
02:01:14,340 --> 02:01:14,735
all recognize that we

1707
02:01:14,735 --> 02:01:15,436
continuously have more work to

1708
02:01:15,436 --> 02:01:18,638
do in order to translate that

1709
02:01:18,638 --> 02:01:19,273
capacity into actual housing

1710
02:01:19,273 --> 02:01:19,974
production as well as and

1711
02:01:19,974 --> 02:01:23,110
continue to find ways in which

1712
02:01:23,110 --> 02:01:23,811
we can lower costs that

1713
02:01:23,811 --> 02:01:26,211
ultimately lower whether it's

1714
02:01:28,315 --> 02:01:28,850
rental or housing purchases and

1715
02:01:28,850 --> 02:01:29,584
costs for residents.

1716
02:01:29,584 --> 02:01:30,251
As the chair of land use and

1717
02:01:30,251 --> 02:01:32,986
housing, I look forward to

1718
02:01:32,986 --> 02:01:33,654
continue to work with my

1719
02:01:33,654 --> 02:01:34,188
colleagues this year to move

1720
02:01:34,188 --> 02:01:34,822
that needle forward.

1721
02:01:34,822 --> 02:01:35,189
And with that I will move

1722
02:01:35,189 --> 02:01:35,556
the item.

1723
02:01:35,556 --> 02:01:37,556
Thank you.

1724
02:01:37,959 --> 02:01:38,425
Council PRESIDENT All right.

1725
02:01:38,425 --> 02:01:39,590
>> Thank you.

1726
02:01:39,590 --> 02:01:39,927
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem.

1727
02:01:39,927 --> 02:01:42,764
So we do have a motion by

1728
02:01:42,764 --> 02:01:43,464
the pro tem to move the item

1729
02:01:43,464 --> 02:01:43,931
and we'll go next to council

1730
02:01:43,931 --> 02:01:44,599
member Whitburn.

1731
02:01:44,599 --> 02:01:44,965
Thank you Council PRESIDENT

1732
02:01:44,965 --> 02:01:46,965
Thank you.

1733
02:01:49,170 --> 02:01:49,671
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

1734
02:01:49,671 --> 02:01:50,437
for your comments.

1735
02:01:50,437 --> 02:01:51,172
I think you Tube is about blood

1736
02:01:51,172 --> 02:01:52,873
and the Planning Department for

1737
02:01:52,873 --> 02:01:53,474
the presentation and all

1738
02:01:53,474 --> 02:01:53,841
the work that you do for

1739
02:01:53,841 --> 02:01:54,542
the city.

1740
02:01:54,542 --> 02:01:55,175
This designation is important

1741
02:01:55,175 --> 02:01:58,780
because it gives the city

1742
02:01:58,780 --> 02:01:58,779
access to pro housing grades,

1743
02:01:58,779 --> 02:01:59,347
additional points and scoring

1744
02:01:59,347 --> 02:02:01,347
of competitive housing

1745
02:02:02,951 --> 02:02:03,617
community development and

1746
02:02:03,617 --> 02:02:04,285
infrastructure applications

1747
02:02:04,285 --> 02:02:06,685
appropriates and other state

1748
02:02:09,900 --> 02:02:09,657
grant programs And I am happy

1749
02:02:09,657 --> 02:02:10,240
to second the motion.

1750
02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:10,724
All right.

1751
02:02:10,724 --> 02:02:11,458
Thank you Council member with

1752
02:02:11,458 --> 02:02:13,930
parents or we do have a motion

1753
02:02:13,930 --> 02:02:13,727
by the council PRESIDENT Pro

1754
02:02:13,727 --> 02:02:14,362
Tem Lee and the second by

1755
02:02:14,362 --> 02:02:16,762
Council whitburn to move

1756
02:02:17,866 --> 02:02:18,600
the item and we'll go next to

1757
02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:19,267
Council member Campo Thank you.

1758
02:02:19,267 --> 02:02:19,967
Council PRESIDENT I want to

1759
02:02:19,967 --> 02:02:22,236
thank our planning department

1760
02:02:22,236 --> 02:02:22,904
for the good work on this.

1761
02:02:22,904 --> 02:02:23,404
This is something I really

1762
02:02:23,404 --> 02:02:24,380
strongly support.

1763
02:02:24,380 --> 02:02:26,438
I've seen this designation

1764
02:02:27,410 --> 02:02:27,409
yield funding for housing that

1765
02:02:27,409 --> 02:02:28,109
was built.

1766
02:02:28,109 --> 02:02:28,776
Linda Vista For seniors that's

1767
02:02:28,776 --> 02:02:31,176
really, really important for

1768
02:02:32,460 --> 02:02:32,847
communities like Linda Vista.

1769
02:02:32,847 --> 02:02:36,251
But just from a basic point of

1770
02:02:36,251 --> 02:02:37,180
view, why wouldn't San Diegans

1771
02:02:37,180 --> 02:02:37,652
want more of their tax dollars

1772
02:02:37,652 --> 02:02:40,652
coming back down to serve

1773
02:02:41,423 --> 02:02:42,230
the needs we have in San Diego

1774
02:02:42,230 --> 02:02:42,924
at the bottom line?

1775
02:02:42,924 --> 02:02:43,625
That isn't a win for all of us

1776
02:02:43,625 --> 02:02:44,559
So I thank them for their good

1777
02:02:44,559 --> 02:02:46,928
work on this and I'm happy to

1778
02:02:46,928 --> 02:02:47,328
be in support.

1779
02:02:47,328 --> 02:02:48,630
All right.

1780
02:02:48,630 --> 02:02:48,929
Thank you Council member Campo.

1781
02:02:48,929 --> 02:02:51,333
We'll go next to Council member

1782
02:02:51,333 --> 02:02:54,333
Foster Oh yes, Thank you.

1783
02:02:55,537 --> 02:02:56,337
>> Council PRESIDENT And I will

1784
02:02:56,337 --> 02:03:00,537
be supportive of this item as I

1785
02:03:00,942 --> 02:03:01,576
do feel that housing is a

1786
02:03:01,576 --> 02:03:02,244
critical critical need and

1787
02:03:02,244 --> 02:03:05,244
everyone should have a place

1788
02:03:06,140 --> 02:03:06,881
that they call home in a place

1789
02:03:06,881 --> 02:03:10,180
that they are proud of And we

1790
02:03:10,180 --> 02:03:10,985
have work to do.

1791
02:03:10,985 --> 02:03:15,230
But I just want to just say as

1792
02:03:15,230 --> 02:03:15,724
we continue to move forward I

1793
02:03:15,724 --> 02:03:16,391
just want to make sure and

1794
02:03:16,391 --> 02:03:19,828
touch upon the things that I

1795
02:03:19,828 --> 02:03:20,762
have concerns about.

1796
02:03:20,762 --> 02:03:24,362
One, making sure that we are

1797
02:03:24,633 --> 02:03:25,166
continuing to make sure we're

1798
02:03:25,166 --> 02:03:25,600
staying engaged with

1799
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:26,334
the community.

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02:03:26,334 --> 02:03:29,371
i think there's a lot of things

1801
02:03:29,371 --> 02:03:30,720
that we can do in regards to

1802
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:30,705
our communication efforts, our

1803
02:03:30,705 --> 02:03:33,441
education efforts to do a

1804
02:03:33,441 --> 02:03:34,175
better job with with

1805
02:03:34,175 --> 02:03:37,775
communities Also I just want to

1806
02:03:38,790 --> 02:03:38,847
make sure we got a balanced

1807
02:03:38,847 --> 02:03:39,181
approach as we continue to move

1808
02:03:39,181 --> 02:03:40,215
forward.

1809
02:03:40,215 --> 02:03:43,850
I want to make sure that we are

1810
02:03:43,850 --> 02:03:43,785
not concentrating poverty

1811
02:03:43,785 --> 02:03:46,785
especially in a community such

1812
02:03:47,622 --> 02:03:48,623
as District four.

1813
02:03:48,623 --> 02:03:49,358
I want to make sure that we get

1814
02:03:49,358 --> 02:03:52,694
some guardrails in and and that

1815
02:03:52,694 --> 02:03:56,894
we are doing our best job to

1816
02:03:57,310 --> 02:03:57,799
make sure we're just making

1817
02:03:57,799 --> 02:04:01,399
sure we are achieving that That

1818
02:04:01,970 --> 02:04:02,638
balance also I must say I'm

1819
02:04:02,638 --> 02:04:05,380
also concerned just about

1820
02:04:06,974 --> 02:04:07,875
the product that we get in

1821
02:04:07,875 --> 02:04:11,475
District four I received a call

1822
02:04:12,114 --> 02:04:15,714
from dsd saying that there's a

1823
02:04:16,451 --> 02:04:17,352
project that is potentially

1824
02:04:17,352 --> 02:04:20,289
coming online where units are

1825
02:04:20,289 --> 02:04:21,156
less than 200ft.

1826
02:04:21,156 --> 02:04:24,156
I'm not understanding how we

1827
02:04:25,194 --> 02:04:28,194
are looking at allowing that

1828
02:04:29,831 --> 02:04:30,532
type of product especially in

1829
02:04:30,532 --> 02:04:30,833
certain communities in certain

1830
02:04:30,833 --> 02:04:32,833
areas.

1831
02:04:35,437 --> 02:04:36,105
So I just want to make sure

1832
02:04:36,105 --> 02:04:36,839
that we're putting our best

1833
02:04:36,839 --> 02:04:40,275
foot forward as we are continue

1834
02:04:40,275 --> 02:04:41,142
to meet the call.

1835
02:04:41,142 --> 02:04:44,746
I mean to make sure that folks

1836
02:04:44,746 --> 02:04:45,513
have a place that they call

1837
02:04:45,513 --> 02:04:48,851
home that safe and that they

1838
02:04:48,851 --> 02:04:49,617
have that sense of pride.

1839
02:04:49,617 --> 02:04:50,586
So we definitely have work to

1840
02:04:50,586 --> 02:04:54,389
do but I will be supportive of

1841
02:04:54,389 --> 02:04:54,823
this item today.

1842
02:04:54,823 --> 02:04:55,224
So thank you.

1843
02:04:55,224 --> 02:04:55,957
All right.

1844
02:04:55,957 --> 02:04:58,357
Thank you, Councilmember Foster

1845
02:04:59,395 --> 02:04:59,795
Not see me but he else in

1846
02:04:59,795 --> 02:05:00,495
the lights.

1847
02:05:00,495 --> 02:05:01,230
I'll have some quick thoughts

1848
02:05:01,230 --> 02:05:03,565
of course will be supportive of

1849
02:05:03,565 --> 02:05:04,199
this and I appreciate

1850
02:05:04,199 --> 02:05:04,899
Councilmember Campos doing

1851
02:05:04,899 --> 02:05:05,467
the math that says when we're

1852
02:05:05,467 --> 02:05:07,867
sending tax dollars to

1853
02:05:08,837 --> 02:05:09,505
Sacramento and Washington dc,

1854
02:05:09,505 --> 02:05:12,441
let's clear as much of that

1855
02:05:12,441 --> 02:05:16,410
back to help our residents and

1856
02:05:17,746 --> 02:05:18,447
our businesses So yeah, this is

1857
02:05:18,447 --> 02:05:21,447
a pretty straight forward one

1858
02:05:22,217 --> 02:05:22,785
And to the public comment, you

1859
02:05:22,785 --> 02:05:23,486
know we're not meeting

1860
02:05:23,486 --> 02:05:24,186
the needs of all San Diego is

1861
02:05:24,186 --> 02:05:27,490
with our housing I think we're

1862
02:05:27,490 --> 02:05:28,190
pulling every lever that we

1863
02:05:28,190 --> 02:05:31,790
have at our disposal and some

1864
02:05:31,960 --> 02:05:32,460
of those lovers are tied by

1865
02:05:32,460 --> 02:05:33,162
what Sacramento's

1866
02:05:33,162 --> 02:05:35,562
interpretation of how housing

1867
02:05:37,233 --> 02:05:38,330
should be delivered.

1868
02:05:38,330 --> 02:05:38,334
But I think we're pulling every

1869
02:05:38,334 --> 02:05:38,900
lever.

1870
02:05:38,900 --> 02:05:39,568
I think that's one of

1871
02:05:39,568 --> 02:05:41,870
the reasons that the city of

1872
02:05:41,870 --> 02:05:42,471
San Diego is recognized

1873
02:05:42,471 --> 02:05:45,471
statewide as a leader in

1874
02:05:46,108 --> 02:05:46,775
housing going forward we are a

1875
02:05:46,775 --> 02:05:47,443
little bit at the mercy for

1876
02:05:47,443 --> 02:05:48,430
lack of a better word about

1877
02:05:48,430 --> 02:05:50,430
what private development

1878
02:05:51,213 --> 02:05:51,780
chooses to do and how private

1879
02:05:51,780 --> 02:05:53,780
development chooses to

1880
02:05:56,252 --> 02:05:57,190
advertise their products.

1881
02:05:57,190 --> 02:05:57,720
They get to use the word

1882
02:05:57,720 --> 02:05:58,154
affordable with a lowercase a

1883
02:05:58,154 --> 02:06:00,154
all the time.

1884
02:06:01,290 --> 02:06:01,957
I think we take it very

1885
02:06:01,957 --> 02:06:02,658
seriously about designating

1886
02:06:02,658 --> 02:06:06,258
housing with a capital that is

1887
02:06:06,562 --> 02:06:07,196
truly affordable with well

1888
02:06:07,196 --> 02:06:07,696
understood metrics Are we

1889
02:06:07,696 --> 02:06:09,696
delivering enough?

1890
02:06:11,334 --> 02:06:12,168
Now we all know that.

1891
02:06:12,168 --> 02:06:12,868
We all recognize that Are we

1892
02:06:12,868 --> 02:06:15,268
delivering enough at moderate

1893
02:06:15,705 --> 02:06:16,472
income now we all know that But

1894
02:06:16,472 --> 02:06:17,172
I know the Planning Department

1895
02:06:17,172 --> 02:06:20,109
works every day to try to get

1896
02:06:20,109 --> 02:06:20,809
creative to figure out how we

1897
02:06:20,809 --> 02:06:21,544
can deliver more of those

1898
02:06:21,544 --> 02:06:24,544
products at those price points,

1899
02:06:25,281 --> 02:06:25,848
how we do our community plan

1900
02:06:25,848 --> 02:06:28,248
updates and trying to

1901
02:06:29,818 --> 02:06:30,619
accelerate those community plan

1902
02:06:30,619 --> 02:06:34,590
updates that I think as we said

1903
02:06:34,590 --> 02:06:35,291
at a previous meeting housing

1904
02:06:35,291 --> 02:06:35,992
is good, planning is good And

1905
02:06:35,992 --> 02:06:38,392
as Councilmember Foster said

1906
02:06:39,862 --> 02:06:40,562
that balance is what we're I

1907
02:06:40,562 --> 02:06:43,562
think constantly trying to do

1908
02:06:44,699 --> 02:06:45,434
private marketplace will do

1909
02:06:45,434 --> 02:06:46,135
what the private marketplace is

1910
02:06:46,135 --> 02:06:49,572
going to do but to degree that

1911
02:06:49,572 --> 02:06:50,172
we can influence good planning,

1912
02:06:50,172 --> 02:06:52,572
good products that meets

1913
02:06:54,911 --> 02:06:55,578
the needs of San Diego and I

1914
02:06:55,578 --> 02:06:56,245
think we are doing our job.

1915
02:06:56,245 --> 02:06:56,978
But yeah, we're not meeting

1916
02:06:56,978 --> 02:06:59,615
everyone and we're all set And

1917
02:06:59,615 --> 02:07:00,316
if some we have to say it out

1918
02:07:00,316 --> 02:07:01,500
loud every once in a while I'm

1919
02:07:01,500 --> 02:07:04,153
happy to be the one to do that.

1920
02:07:04,153 --> 02:07:04,821
So with that we have a motion

1921
02:07:04,821 --> 02:07:05,521
by Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

1922
02:07:05,521 --> 02:07:08,825
Lee and a second by Council

1923
02:07:08,825 --> 02:07:09,525
member Whitburn Please call

1924
02:07:09,525 --> 02:07:13,125
the roll as the voting system.

1925
02:07:13,663 --> 02:07:16,663
>> Please cast your vote that

1926
02:07:18,668 --> 02:07:19,680
passes unanimously 9 to 0.

1927
02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:19,435
Thank you.

1928
02:07:19,435 --> 02:07:20,202
All right.

1929
02:07:20,202 --> 02:07:20,903
Thank you, city clerk And thank

1930
02:07:20,903 --> 02:07:23,105
you to the Planning department

1931
02:07:23,105 --> 02:07:23,773
and the mayor's office for

1932
02:07:23,773 --> 02:07:24,540
bringing this item forward.

1933
02:07:24,540 --> 02:07:28,311
So with that we will now take

1934
02:07:28,311 --> 02:07:29,780
up not agenda public comment.

1935
02:07:29,780 --> 02:07:29,778
The council members respect and

1936
02:07:29,778 --> 02:07:32,178
appreciate the public's input

1937
02:07:32,815 --> 02:07:33,516
and are fully committed to

1938
02:07:33,516 --> 02:07:34,216
protecting every participant's

1939
02:07:34,216 --> 02:07:37,216
free speech rights at council

1940
02:07:37,921 --> 02:07:38,688
and committee meetings and

1941
02:07:38,688 --> 02:07:41,688
again have a respectful request

1942
02:07:43,292 --> 02:07:43,993
to my colleagues It is noon I

1943
02:07:43,993 --> 02:07:47,593
don't know how many folks we

1944
02:07:48,164 --> 02:07:48,832
have lined up but what are some

1945
02:07:48,832 --> 02:07:51,133
we're going to leave early

1946
02:07:51,133 --> 02:07:51,768
Let's all the fort with at

1947
02:07:51,768 --> 02:07:52,435
least four of us including

1948
02:07:52,435 --> 02:07:55,435
myself that would make five

1949
02:07:56,720 --> 02:07:56,772
through that public knowledge

1950
02:07:56,772 --> 02:07:57,540
and a public comment period.

1951
02:07:57,540 --> 02:08:00,540
So with that clerk please

1952
02:08:01,811 --> 02:08:02,278
proceed with public comment.

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02:08:02,278 --> 02:08:03,213
>> Thank you.

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02:08:03,213 --> 02:08:05,480
And just to note we have four

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02:08:05,480 --> 02:08:05,682
in person and nine currently

1956
02:08:05,682 --> 02:08:08,682
with their hands raised in

1957
02:08:09,385 --> 02:08:09,853
the queue starting with Jacob

1958
02:08:09,853 --> 02:08:10,654
Lewis.

1959
02:08:10,654 --> 02:08:10,954
Jacob Lewis I do not see him

1960
02:08:10,954 --> 02:08:12,954
here.

1961
02:08:15,191 --> 02:08:15,925
Max Schmidt if you can please

1962
02:08:15,925 --> 02:08:17,627
come up to the microphone After

1963
02:08:17,627 --> 02:08:21,227
that will be joined Senator and

1964
02:08:22,999 --> 02:08:23,800
then allegedly address You'll

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02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:26,800
have two minutes Please proceed

1966
02:08:27,671 --> 02:08:28,505
on.

1967
02:08:28,505 --> 02:08:32,409
I just wanted I just wanted to

1968
02:08:32,409 --> 02:08:33,175
say a lot of people have given

1969
02:08:33,175 --> 02:08:36,175
the ultimate sacrifice for this

1970
02:08:38,180 --> 02:08:42,380
country on and for me not to

1971
02:08:42,618 --> 02:08:43,286
have mental freedom Is is an

1972
02:08:43,286 --> 02:08:43,619
embarrassment to the United

1973
02:08:43,619 --> 02:08:45,619
States.

1974
02:08:47,958 --> 02:08:48,525
The American flag and the San

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02:08:48,525 --> 02:08:49,250
Diego city government.

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02:08:49,250 --> 02:08:52,250
You know who I am.

1977
02:08:53,263 --> 02:08:53,997
You know, I walk around San

1978
02:08:53,997 --> 02:08:56,997
Diego public streets and people

1979
02:08:57,534 --> 02:08:58,100
stalk me constantly and they're

1980
02:08:58,100 --> 02:08:58,802
telepathic Freemasons.

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02:08:58,802 --> 02:09:02,672
I can say my thoughts out loud

1982
02:09:02,672 --> 02:09:03,730
and endlessly terrorize me by

1983
02:09:03,730 --> 02:09:03,840
doing this.

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02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:06,976
You know that they do that You

1985
02:09:06,976 --> 02:09:07,944
know what's going on.

1986
02:09:07,944 --> 02:09:08,612
>> And then when I naively and

1987
02:09:08,612 --> 02:09:11,612
foolishly went to the police

1988
02:09:12,215 --> 02:09:12,849
for help because I am kind of

1989
02:09:12,849 --> 02:09:13,550
an innocent person where I

1990
02:09:13,550 --> 02:09:14,417
didn't know what to do, I felt

1991
02:09:14,417 --> 02:09:17,322
like a prisoner of war to be

1992
02:09:17,322 --> 02:09:19,322
honest.

1993
02:09:20,256 --> 02:09:21,158
The police 5150 me Oh then 5250

1994
02:09:21,158 --> 02:09:21,825
me and I had to leave the state

1995
02:09:21,825 --> 02:09:24,825
to not get an anti-psychotic

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02:09:25,329 --> 02:09:26,129
injection and became homeless

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02:09:26,129 --> 02:09:29,729
And you know what's going on

1998
02:09:30,634 --> 02:09:31,167
And I will not capitulate to

1999
02:09:31,167 --> 02:09:33,567
the New World Order.

2000
02:09:35,372 --> 02:09:36,730
i will continue to expose them

2001
02:09:36,730 --> 02:09:39,673
by saying they don't like me

2002
02:09:40,410 --> 02:09:41,100
talking about that the majority

2003
02:09:41,100 --> 02:09:41,445
of the West coast is

2004
02:09:41,445 --> 02:09:43,445
reincarnating.

2005
02:09:45,381 --> 02:09:46,820
Communist Freemasons were sane

2006
02:09:46,820 --> 02:09:46,783
and commanding them to form a

2007
02:09:46,783 --> 02:09:47,350
one world government and that

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02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:49,350
they're also literally

2009
02:09:50,219 --> 02:09:50,988
teleporting.

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02:09:50,988 --> 02:09:51,621
These people do not drive cars.

2011
02:09:51,621 --> 02:09:54,621
The majority of people on

2012
02:09:55,425 --> 02:09:56,126
the West Coast teleporter found

2013
02:09:56,126 --> 02:09:56,894
that's how potent or whatever

2014
02:09:56,894 --> 02:10:00,494
you want to call it demonic

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02:10:02,565 --> 02:10:03,990
diabolical is a cult group

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02:10:03,990 --> 02:10:03,600
Rituals are we're in

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02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:04,968
the Masonic Lodge.

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02:10:04,968 --> 02:10:05,602
They're worshiping Satan to

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02:10:05,602 --> 02:10:06,203
such a degree that they're

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02:10:06,203 --> 02:10:08,203
doing human sacrifices.

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02:10:09,273 --> 02:10:09,873
These people are actually

2022
02:10:09,873 --> 02:10:10,574
possessed by the devil.

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02:10:10,574 --> 02:10:12,974
They literally teleport around

2024
02:10:13,877 --> 02:10:14,645
like demons And my voice will

2025
02:10:14,645 --> 02:10:15,345
not be silenced And you're not

2026
02:10:15,345 --> 02:10:16,112
going to call me schizophrenic

2027
02:10:16,112 --> 02:10:19,616
or crazy again because I'm not

2028
02:10:19,616 --> 02:10:20,417
stupid.

2029
02:10:20,417 --> 02:10:21,840
I know what's going on and you

2030
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:21,752
know that when I walk around

2031
02:10:21,752 --> 02:10:24,752
San Diego public streets I'm

2032
02:10:24,888 --> 02:10:25,555
getting harassed and the cops

2033
02:10:25,555 --> 02:10:28,555
are corrupt and enabling it

2034
02:10:29,826 --> 02:10:30,694
down with the occult thinking.

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02:10:30,694 --> 02:10:31,161
Next we have to rise and yada

2036
02:10:31,161 --> 02:10:31,861
I'm sorry I did.

2037
02:10:31,861 --> 02:10:32,630
I note for the record that if

2038
02:10:32,630 --> 02:10:34,364
you are online now is the time

2039
02:10:34,364 --> 02:10:35,165
to raise your hand by pressing

2040
02:10:35,165 --> 02:10:37,901
the raise your hand icon or

2041
02:10:37,901 --> 02:10:38,602
calling participant star nine

2042
02:10:38,602 --> 02:10:39,302
If you're wanting to knowledge

2043
02:10:39,302 --> 02:10:39,904
in a public comment virtually

2044
02:10:39,904 --> 02:10:42,904
We do have some Spanish

2045
02:10:46,644 --> 02:10:47,411
speakers on the q see as they

2046
02:10:47,411 --> 02:10:48,112
stay in linea you get a lot of

2047
02:10:48,112 --> 02:10:51,112
sovereigns windows can not in

2048
02:10:51,148 --> 02:10:51,915
like in the what if our Optima

2049
02:10:51,915 --> 02:10:52,450
is three and we're all econo de

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02:10:52,450 --> 02:10:52,782
la Moneta Armory.

2051
02:10:52,782 --> 02:10:53,250
Gracias.

2052
02:10:53,250 --> 02:10:55,250
Please proceed.

2053
02:10:56,586 --> 02:10:57,455
Thank you.

2054
02:10:57,455 --> 02:11:01,550
A little bit ago I left

2055
02:11:01,325 --> 02:11:02,920
the chambers and I went around

2056
02:11:02,920 --> 02:11:05,596
for a walk around the block.

2057
02:11:05,596 --> 02:11:06,464
I needed that.

2058
02:11:06,464 --> 02:11:10,500
I guess What I saw the sun.

2059
02:11:10,500 --> 02:11:11,301
The sun was shining The sky was

2060
02:11:11,301 --> 02:11:14,901
that beautiful blue There was a

2061
02:11:15,338 --> 02:11:16,730
little breeze blowing.

2062
02:11:16,730 --> 02:11:19,730
There were people walking dogs.

2063
02:11:20,244 --> 02:11:20,945
There was a homeless person

2064
02:11:20,945 --> 02:11:22,546
sitting in a wheelchair And

2065
02:11:22,546 --> 02:11:26,146
suddenly I had a question for

2066
02:11:28,319 --> 02:11:31,319
myself What are you fighting

2067
02:11:32,923 --> 02:11:34,923
for?

2068
02:11:37,261 --> 02:11:40,261
What am I fighting for?

2069
02:11:42,433 --> 02:11:43,670
So the top priority is that I

2070
02:11:43,670 --> 02:11:46,670
am fighting for our voices

2071
02:11:49,907 --> 02:11:50,474
being heard and respected.

2072
02:11:50,474 --> 02:11:52,474
This is storytelling.

2073
02:11:55,450 --> 02:11:55,680
The two d Tours marketing

2074
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:58,800
district said this very

2075
02:11:59,450 --> 02:12:03,500
recently that how they do their

2076
02:12:03,420 --> 02:12:05,820
marketing is via storytelling.

2077
02:12:08,793 --> 02:12:11,793
All our work is storytelling

2078
02:12:13,331 --> 02:12:14,198
and we do an ancient ritual

2079
02:12:14,198 --> 02:12:17,798
that goes back to the beginning

2080
02:12:18,269 --> 02:12:20,269
of people.

2081
02:12:22,473 --> 02:12:23,140
We sit around a bonfire and we

2082
02:12:23,140 --> 02:12:25,540
tell our stories together.

2083
02:12:27,978 --> 02:12:28,746
This is the work of all of us

2084
02:12:28,746 --> 02:12:32,346
to tell our stories because we

2085
02:12:32,816 --> 02:12:35,816
must remember that the miracle

2086
02:12:41,926 --> 02:12:46,126
of life, the miracle of life is

2087
02:12:47,331 --> 02:12:47,799
unfolding before our very eyes.

2088
02:12:47,799 --> 02:12:49,799
We are it.

2089
02:12:52,871 --> 02:12:56,940
We are alive and it is a

2090
02:12:56,940 --> 02:12:57,241
miracle And let us never forget

2091
02:12:57,241 --> 02:12:57,941
that.

2092
02:12:57,941 --> 02:13:00,941
>> Love to all Thank you.

2093
02:13:06,284 --> 02:13:08,284
Allegedly Audra It's

2094
02:13:10,922 --> 02:13:11,790
interesting because everything

2095
02:13:11,790 --> 02:13:12,490
has to do with good and evil

2096
02:13:12,490 --> 02:13:15,994
And for those of you that

2097
02:13:15,994 --> 02:13:19,594
believe would know that if you

2098
02:13:20,231 --> 02:13:20,865
really did read the Bible and

2099
02:13:20,865 --> 02:13:21,599
you understood that since

2100
02:13:21,599 --> 02:13:25,199
the beginning of time there has

2101
02:13:25,502 --> 02:13:25,804
been a spiritual warfare going

2102
02:13:25,804 --> 02:13:26,571
on.

2103
02:13:26,571 --> 02:13:29,974
That's why Ephesians six is so

2104
02:13:29,974 --> 02:13:30,675
important for us to put on

2105
02:13:30,675 --> 02:13:31,342
the form or GOD because we

2106
02:13:31,342 --> 02:13:32,760
fight not just against flesh

2107
02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:35,760
and blood but against spiritual

2108
02:13:35,180 --> 02:13:36,470
wickedness.

2109
02:13:36,470 --> 02:13:36,815
And so four things that Max is

2110
02:13:36,815 --> 02:13:39,815
saying those those are very

2111
02:13:40,318 --> 02:13:41,520
true things.

2112
02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:44,520
There are Freemasons, there are

2113
02:13:44,555 --> 02:13:45,222
elite, there are people in

2114
02:13:45,222 --> 02:13:45,790
the Illuminati who sacrifice

2115
02:13:45,790 --> 02:13:47,790
children human beings.

2116
02:13:49,995 --> 02:13:50,762
They drink blood, they eat

2117
02:13:50,762 --> 02:13:53,762
people, they do satanic abuse

2118
02:13:54,633 --> 02:13:55,400
rituals.

2119
02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:59,000
San Diego is a very, very

2120
02:13:59,103 --> 02:13:59,839
prominent stomping ground for

2121
02:13:59,839 --> 02:14:00,539
that And they think the kind of

2122
02:14:00,539 --> 02:14:02,939
technologies that he's talking

2123
02:14:04,750 --> 02:14:04,475
about they can put words into

2124
02:14:04,475 --> 02:14:05,176
your brain.

2125
02:14:05,176 --> 02:14:05,844
I mean it's the voice of GOD.

2126
02:14:05,844 --> 02:14:07,844
There's many different

2127
02:14:09,147 --> 02:14:09,848
technologies and they do M.K.

2128
02:14:09,848 --> 02:14:10,215
Ultra, you know, mind control

2129
02:14:10,215 --> 02:14:12,215
on people.

2130
02:14:14,190 --> 02:14:14,685
So it's like he sounds like

2131
02:14:14,685 --> 02:14:17,685
Looney Tunes of course, but

2132
02:14:18,490 --> 02:14:19,191
those are things that that do

2133
02:14:19,191 --> 02:14:20,570
take place And it's like when

2134
02:14:20,570 --> 02:14:23,361
we have you know, officers like

2135
02:14:23,361 --> 02:14:24,950
Mick Gibbons, you know, and

2136
02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:27,950
the child pornography it's like

2137
02:14:27,899 --> 02:14:28,333
America's the biggest consumers

2138
02:14:28,333 --> 02:14:30,333
of child porn.

2139
02:14:31,970 --> 02:14:32,771
I mean Tim Tebow found 338,000

2140
02:14:32,771 --> 02:14:35,771
ip addresses that were just

2141
02:14:37,309 --> 02:14:38,900
single ones that were

2142
02:14:38,900 --> 02:14:38,376
transmitting this kind of data

2143
02:14:38,376 --> 02:14:40,376
children.

2144
02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:42,247
So I mean you guys have

2145
02:14:42,247 --> 02:14:42,948
children.

2146
02:14:42,948 --> 02:14:43,649
It's like nobody wants to talk

2147
02:14:43,649 --> 02:14:46,649
about these things and that's

2148
02:14:47,451 --> 02:14:48,186
why they perpetuate is because

2149
02:14:48,186 --> 02:14:48,619
we sit here and we brush it

2150
02:14:48,619 --> 02:14:50,619
under the rug.

2151
02:14:51,790 --> 02:14:52,658
That's too crazy to talk about

2152
02:14:52,658 --> 02:14:53,580
But this is why the world is

2153
02:14:53,580 --> 02:14:55,580
like it is.

2154
02:14:56,661 --> 02:14:57,295
People do sacrifice and worship

2155
02:14:57,295 --> 02:15:00,295
Satan and that's why such

2156
02:15:00,565 --> 02:15:00,865
nefarious things can take place

2157
02:15:00,865 --> 02:15:01,633
.

2158
02:15:01,633 --> 02:15:02,334
>> And I would say that you

2159
02:15:02,334 --> 02:15:06,205
guys are on a lower level of

2160
02:15:06,205 --> 02:15:06,872
that but you're being puppeteer

2161
02:15:06,872 --> 02:15:07,573
by those people and you're

2162
02:15:07,573 --> 02:15:09,107
doing their bidding and you're

2163
02:15:09,107 --> 02:15:12,707
brushing it all under the rug

2164
02:15:14,379 --> 02:15:14,704
And that is extremely egregious

2165
02:15:14,704 --> 02:15:15,314
.

2166
02:15:15,314 --> 02:15:15,914
That does conclude public

2167
02:15:15,914 --> 02:15:16,281
comment here in council

2168
02:15:16,281 --> 02:15:16,915
chambers.

2169
02:15:16,915 --> 02:15:19,183
We're going to go to those

2170
02:15:19,183 --> 02:15:20,520
participating remotely.

2171
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:23,520
We have funny a squirrel

2172
02:15:23,922 --> 02:15:25,922
fantasy podria reality

2173
02:15:33,132 --> 02:15:33,832
laboratory in Boulder as called

2174
02:15:33,832 --> 02:15:37,432
chocolate say okay no my by

2175
02:15:39,103 --> 02:15:39,704
the Iraqis we probably have a

2176
02:15:39,704 --> 02:15:40,372
lot in process quarters

2177
02:15:40,372 --> 02:15:41,730
proposal here at Radio City

2178
02:15:41,730 --> 02:15:44,673
like what I'm into okay grass

2179
02:15:45,143 --> 02:15:49,343
is real Malik boy like got a

2180
02:15:49,748 --> 02:15:53,352
bizarre bird on it when a staff

2181
02:15:53,352 --> 02:15:54,530
member for the San Diego is

2182
02:15:54,530 --> 02:15:54,720
funny is cute It is Good

2183
02:15:54,720 --> 02:15:57,120
afternoon council members My

2184
02:15:58,891 --> 02:15:59,858
name is Fannie Esquivel MR.

2185
02:15:59,858 --> 02:16:04,580
Yaki I play a key common member

2186
02:16:05,130 --> 02:16:05,936
of the community that you and

2187
02:16:05,936 --> 02:16:08,000
I'm a member Occupy that right

2188
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:08,700
I'm here as a member of a

2189
02:16:08,700 --> 02:16:11,700
committee of my community and

2190
02:16:12,938 --> 02:16:13,639
as a worried mother about trash

2191
02:16:13,639 --> 02:16:14,139
about the state of trash,

2192
02:16:14,139 --> 02:16:16,139
the products that

2193
02:16:17,275 --> 02:16:17,943
the Pakistanis perceive us in

2194
02:16:17,943 --> 02:16:19,778
the best scenario and about

2195
02:16:19,778 --> 02:16:22,778
tobacco shops that are within

2196
02:16:28,988 --> 02:16:29,755
my community see senior of

2197
02:16:29,755 --> 02:16:30,489
course see that yes this is

2198
02:16:30,489 --> 02:16:31,190
area my my community members

2199
02:16:31,190 --> 02:16:31,757
and my children are having to

2200
02:16:31,757 --> 02:16:34,157
see the cigaret butts

2201
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:38,460
everywhere who are corner.

2202
02:16:39,932 --> 02:16:40,899
Yes And they pick them up to

2203
02:16:40,899 --> 02:16:44,603
play with them So I can only

2204
02:16:44,603 --> 02:16:45,303
catina one other active There

2205
02:16:45,303 --> 02:16:48,303
are children that are touching

2206
02:16:48,874 --> 02:16:49,575
nicotine which is an active

2207
02:16:49,575 --> 02:16:51,975
drug issues monitors is

2208
02:16:54,810 --> 02:16:54,779
important see and their and

2209
02:16:54,779 --> 02:16:57,779
their hands and their clothes

2210
02:16:59,318 --> 02:16:59,919
are full of that nicotine and

2211
02:16:59,919 --> 02:17:02,319
the tobacco and consumer

2212
02:17:08,940 --> 02:17:08,727
tobacco It is to the stage of

2213
02:17:08,727 --> 02:17:09,395
self isn't see I normally

2214
02:17:09,395 --> 02:17:10,129
father is somewhat studying

2215
02:17:10,129 --> 02:17:10,796
the consumption of cigarets and

2216
02:17:10,796 --> 02:17:12,864
nicotine and that discarding

2217
02:17:12,864 --> 02:17:13,533
them on the street has become a

2218
02:17:13,533 --> 02:17:15,933
regular has become regularly

2219
02:17:20,706 --> 02:17:21,407
accepted and that is not okay

2220
02:17:21,407 --> 02:17:23,943
and look at the podium see

2221
02:17:23,943 --> 02:17:24,644
square where we will constantly

2222
02:17:24,644 --> 02:17:27,440
interpret occupy that they're

2223
02:17:27,112 --> 02:17:27,880
still in contact as toxic air

2224
02:17:27,880 --> 02:17:28,681
Instead of being able to relax

2225
02:17:28,681 --> 02:17:32,351
as my kids play outside I have

2226
02:17:32,351 --> 02:17:33,152
to be constantly concerned that

2227
02:17:33,152 --> 02:17:36,752
they are outside playing with a

2228
02:17:37,957 --> 02:17:38,590
toxic substance not turning on

2229
02:17:38,590 --> 02:17:40,990
medicine or therefore that

2230
02:17:43,629 --> 02:17:44,330
illness partially seguros is

2231
02:17:44,330 --> 02:17:45,198
what they in Panama City was

2232
02:17:45,198 --> 02:17:47,200
for me to sell tobacco My

2233
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:48,167
children deserve to be able to

2234
02:17:48,167 --> 02:17:51,571
play in a space that is free

2235
02:17:51,571 --> 02:17:54,571
and safe free of tobacco.

2236
02:17:57,110 --> 02:17:57,710
They very esteem associate you

2237
02:17:57,710 --> 02:18:00,710
must up for your partner

2238
02:18:03,820 --> 02:18:03,817
partner in a company that is

2239
02:18:03,817 --> 02:18:04,417
the only company to incorporate

2240
02:18:04,417 --> 02:18:05,718
Podemos solution That is

2241
02:18:05,718 --> 02:18:06,385
the problem we need more

2242
02:18:06,385 --> 02:18:07,860
information and more support

2243
02:18:07,860 --> 02:18:10,686
for the community in order to

2244
02:18:11,157 --> 02:18:11,891
address the situation.

2245
02:18:11,891 --> 02:18:14,891
The candidate of the center,

2246
02:18:16,950 --> 02:18:16,830
the product of the tobacco is

2247
02:18:16,830 --> 02:18:17,663
produced from medical marijuana

2248
02:18:17,663 --> 02:18:20,320
and to plug in with a company

2249
02:18:20,320 --> 02:18:20,766
that the amount of trash that

2250
02:18:20,766 --> 02:18:24,137
is nicotine related that is out

2251
02:18:24,137 --> 02:18:25,103
on the streets is something

2252
02:18:25,103 --> 02:18:25,772
that is too much to be able to

2253
02:18:25,772 --> 02:18:28,772
handle that needs to be

2254
02:18:32,110 --> 02:18:32,712
addressed and care for my son.

2255
02:18:32,712 --> 02:18:35,112
Patel Programmer Damian David

2256
02:18:37,116 --> 02:18:37,717
must execute Responsabilidad as

2257
02:18:37,717 --> 02:18:38,885
grandiose company Well I

2258
02:18:38,885 --> 02:18:39,552
understand that is a

2259
02:18:39,552 --> 02:18:40,186
responsibility of each of us

2260
02:18:40,186 --> 02:18:40,553
and the responsibility of

2261
02:18:40,553 --> 02:18:41,254
the city.

2262
02:18:41,254 --> 02:18:44,230
We need to make sure that we

2263
02:18:44,230 --> 02:18:44,724
hold the bigger tobacco

2264
02:18:44,724 --> 02:18:47,124
companies accountable and make

2265
02:18:49,596 --> 02:18:50,296
them responsible as well as

2266
02:18:50,296 --> 02:18:50,964
e-commerce system programmers

2267
02:18:50,964 --> 02:18:53,964
parallel cities But I think

2268
02:18:56,435 --> 02:19:00,350
better we see color products of

2269
02:19:00,507 --> 02:19:01,207
bacteria societies We have to I

2270
02:19:01,207 --> 02:19:01,875
must implement that program of

2271
02:19:01,875 --> 02:19:04,275
ballot equality that is

2272
02:19:04,644 --> 02:19:05,378
declared process say tobacco

2273
02:19:05,378 --> 02:19:07,247
just like we have programs that

2274
02:19:07,247 --> 02:19:07,948
are made to actually recycle

2275
02:19:07,948 --> 02:19:08,615
toxic substances such as oils

2276
02:19:08,615 --> 02:19:09,150
and batteries and things of

2277
02:19:09,150 --> 02:19:11,150
that nature.

2278
02:19:12,180 --> 02:19:12,619
We should also have a recycling

2279
02:19:12,619 --> 02:19:15,190
program for these toxic

2280
02:19:19,959 --> 02:19:20,659
substances of the nicotine in

2281
02:19:20,659 --> 02:19:23,590
cigarets like community could

2282
02:19:23,697 --> 02:19:24,297
get and also glimmer criminal

2283
02:19:24,297 --> 02:19:26,366
potency model as granted

2284
02:19:26,366 --> 02:19:27,990
companion star calories.

2285
02:19:27,990 --> 02:19:28,100
The community is insisting that

2286
02:19:28,100 --> 02:19:31,804
you put us in our safety on top

2287
02:19:31,804 --> 02:19:32,439
of the as more important than

2288
02:19:32,439 --> 02:19:34,839
the tobacco companies and

2289
02:19:37,844 --> 02:19:38,545
the tobacco conglomerates and

2290
02:19:38,545 --> 02:19:39,245
he goes represent that When I

2291
02:19:39,245 --> 02:19:42,845
see what that Limpia say what

2292
02:19:43,160 --> 02:19:43,750
are you familiar I've seen in

2293
02:19:43,750 --> 02:19:46,150
politics politics attorneys not

2294
02:19:48,220 --> 02:19:49,122
represent a system that you

2295
02:19:49,122 --> 02:19:52,325
must get to a crisis point so

2296
02:19:52,325 --> 02:19:53,930
people can good ideas.

2297
02:19:53,930 --> 02:19:53,893
There's a reason Coca-Cola is

2298
02:19:53,893 --> 02:19:56,163
with the eponymous but at that

2299
02:19:56,163 --> 02:19:57,630
I mean that we say that we are

2300
02:19:57,630 --> 02:20:00,267
a clean and a safe and a good

2301
02:20:00,267 --> 02:20:01,100
city but that is not reflected

2302
02:20:01,100 --> 02:20:01,434
in the way that our streets are

2303
02:20:01,434 --> 02:20:02,680
taken care of.

2304
02:20:02,680 --> 02:20:04,971
I ask for your support in

2305
02:20:04,971 --> 02:20:07,139
getting this address that I

2306
02:20:07,139 --> 02:20:10,739
just ask you Given crisis Tony

2307
02:20:12,345 --> 02:20:15,945
if you can please unmute that

2308
02:20:17,617 --> 02:20:18,384
also does conclude the five

2309
02:20:18,384 --> 02:20:20,854
minute timer We have 11 people

2310
02:20:20,854 --> 02:20:21,288
in the queue 12 Nobody else

2311
02:20:21,288 --> 02:20:23,288
will be taken.

2312
02:20:25,793 --> 02:20:26,193
Tony please proceed.

2313
02:20:26,193 --> 02:20:26,693
>> Yes.

2314
02:20:26,693 --> 02:20:27,700
Can you hear me?

2315
02:20:27,700 --> 02:20:27,494
Yes.

2316
02:20:27,494 --> 02:20:29,494
Please proceed.

2317
02:20:31,630 --> 02:20:31,798
Hey, my apologies for

2318
02:20:31,798 --> 02:20:32,465
the earlier comment about Flock

2319
02:20:32,465 --> 02:20:33,660
a pr I was meaning to leave

2320
02:20:33,660 --> 02:20:35,466
that comment during this

2321
02:20:35,502 --> 02:20:36,136
portion and I don't mean to be

2322
02:20:36,136 --> 02:20:39,136
a hypocrite in calling out

2323
02:20:39,873 --> 02:20:40,641
earlier other people that leave

2324
02:20:40,641 --> 02:20:43,641
comments that aren't related to

2325
02:20:45,780 --> 02:20:45,451
the agenda topics So my

2326
02:20:45,451 --> 02:20:45,945
apologies.

2327
02:20:45,945 --> 02:20:46,480
That was my error.

2328
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:48,880
That was my mistake.

2329
02:20:50,217 --> 02:20:50,818
But getting back to I guess

2330
02:20:50,818 --> 02:20:51,484
that the housing element

2331
02:20:51,484 --> 02:20:54,484
earlier the thing that y'all

2332
02:20:55,880 --> 02:20:55,889
were voting on I, I don't think

2333
02:20:55,889 --> 02:20:58,925
I would have been in support of

2334
02:20:58,925 --> 02:20:59,626
it anyway just because I don't

2335
02:20:59,626 --> 02:21:02,626
know that Todd Gloria is

2336
02:21:03,964 --> 02:21:04,631
necessarily somebody that I

2337
02:21:04,631 --> 02:21:07,631
would trust with the housing

2338
02:21:08,435 --> 02:21:09,102
development process If if I

2339
02:21:09,102 --> 02:21:09,703
understand correctly that's

2340
02:21:09,703 --> 02:21:10,237
what the if that's what

2341
02:21:10,237 --> 02:21:12,637
the issue was about.

2342
02:21:14,842 --> 02:21:15,442
But I'm not entirely sure if

2343
02:21:15,442 --> 02:21:17,842
I'm addressing that with

2344
02:21:18,545 --> 02:21:19,412
the full subject knowledge that

2345
02:21:19,412 --> 02:21:19,880
I should be in order to be

2346
02:21:19,880 --> 02:21:21,880
speaking on it.

2347
02:21:23,116 --> 02:21:23,884
But with that said, I'd like to

2348
02:21:23,884 --> 02:21:24,685
just finish what I was saying

2349
02:21:24,685 --> 02:21:27,685
earlier about Flock Alper and

2350
02:21:28,455 --> 02:21:28,889
the article that I was

2351
02:21:28,889 --> 02:21:29,723
referring to.

2352
02:21:29,723 --> 02:21:33,260
I will try to send in a copy

2353
02:21:33,260 --> 02:21:33,827
tomorrow so that you all can

2354
02:21:33,827 --> 02:21:34,594
see it And when I'm speaking I

2355
02:21:34,594 --> 02:21:37,594
think I think that's done

2356
02:21:38,599 --> 02:21:39,366
through the city Clerk Well I

2357
02:21:39,366 --> 02:21:43,503
think that's what I have to do

2358
02:21:43,503 --> 02:21:44,304
in order to send it in But I'll

2359
02:21:44,304 --> 02:21:44,638
look it up online in just a

2360
02:21:44,638 --> 02:21:46,638
moment.

2361
02:21:48,109 --> 02:21:48,775
But the article on I just I

2362
02:21:48,775 --> 02:21:51,775
just wanted to speak to

2363
02:21:52,379 --> 02:21:52,913
the fact that the like like I

2364
02:21:52,913 --> 02:21:55,313
was saying those two

2365
02:21:57,517 --> 02:21:58,218
settlements or rather the two

2366
02:21:58,218 --> 02:22:01,789
lawsuits the two the two suits

2367
02:22:01,789 --> 02:22:02,289
that have been filed are for

2368
02:22:02,289 --> 02:22:04,289
1.5 million each.

2369
02:22:05,960 --> 02:22:06,627
That's more than flock is is

2370
02:22:06,627 --> 02:22:09,270
the contract costs for

2371
02:22:11,264 --> 02:22:12,165
the entire year.

2372
02:22:12,165 --> 02:22:12,666
I know that we see it as a

2373
02:22:12,666 --> 02:22:14,568
force multiplier.

2374
02:22:14,568 --> 02:22:15,168
I know that we see ourselves

2375
02:22:15,168 --> 02:22:15,836
being 100 police short.

2376
02:22:15,836 --> 02:22:16,537
But I'm really questioning

2377
02:22:16,537 --> 02:22:19,537
where those numbers come from

2378
02:22:19,774 --> 02:22:20,474
considering they are statistics

2379
02:22:20,474 --> 02:22:23,474
that are based upon comparing

2380
02:22:24,278 --> 02:22:25,120
us to other cities that have a

2381
02:22:25,120 --> 02:22:27,412
comparative population size But

2382
02:22:29,500 --> 02:22:29,817
those other cities have higher

2383
02:22:29,817 --> 02:22:30,184
crime rates so those are not

2384
02:22:30,184 --> 02:22:32,184
analogous.

2385
02:22:32,686 --> 02:22:33,621
>> Your time has concluded.

2386
02:22:33,621 --> 02:22:36,621
>> Barbara Gordon If you can

2387
02:22:37,692 --> 02:22:38,159
please unmute.

2388
02:22:38,159 --> 02:22:38,825
Good afternoon.

2389
02:22:38,825 --> 02:22:41,825
As a health advocate mental

2390
02:22:42,262 --> 02:22:42,997
health services are vital

2391
02:22:42,997 --> 02:22:45,397
especially for individuals with

2392
02:22:46,900 --> 02:22:47,368
justice involvement many due to

2393
02:22:47,368 --> 02:22:49,368
substance abuse.

2394
02:22:51,639 --> 02:22:55,239
I wanted to share with you

2395
02:22:56,760 --> 02:22:56,577
sandbags 2025 Juvenile arrestee

2396
02:22:56,577 --> 02:22:57,445
Drug Use report.

2397
02:22:57,445 --> 02:23:01,450
This is a self report reported

2398
02:23:01,482 --> 02:23:01,849
by juveniles who have been

2399
02:23:01,849 --> 02:23:02,483
arrested.

2400
02:23:02,483 --> 02:23:04,883
Marijuana continues to be

2401
02:23:06,354 --> 02:23:07,870
the most popular drug used

2402
02:23:07,870 --> 02:23:09,487
consistent with previous years.

2403
02:23:10,892 --> 02:23:13,892
Marijuana at 93% was the most

2404
02:23:15,163 --> 02:23:15,663
commonly used substance among

2405
02:23:15,663 --> 02:23:16,364
those interviewed.

2406
02:23:16,364 --> 02:23:19,364
Youth were asked about recent

2407
02:23:20,100 --> 02:23:23,700
drug use of marijuana and it

2408
02:23:24,639 --> 02:23:25,440
showed that the percentage use

2409
02:23:25,440 --> 02:23:25,940
was 73% used with it in

2410
02:23:25,940 --> 02:23:27,940
the past 30 days.

2411
02:23:30,345 --> 02:23:31,145
Most of those had used

2412
02:23:31,145 --> 02:23:34,145
marijuana but they perceived it

2413
02:23:34,649 --> 02:23:35,316
as harmless.

2414
02:23:35,316 --> 02:23:38,916
When asked about the ease of

2415
02:23:39,921 --> 02:23:40,588
assessing certain substances,

2416
02:23:40,588 --> 02:23:42,988
most described marijuana as

2417
02:23:45,590 --> 02:23:45,693
very easy or easy to obtain.

2418
02:23:45,693 --> 02:23:48,930
Again, youth perception of

2419
02:23:49,697 --> 02:23:50,464
marijuana is that it's easier

2420
02:23:50,464 --> 02:23:50,799
to obtain than both tobacco or

2421
02:23:50,799 --> 02:23:52,799
alcohol.

2422
02:23:54,736 --> 02:23:55,302
This report underscores

2423
02:23:55,302 --> 02:23:58,302
the risk of the city's

2424
02:23:59,106 --> 02:23:59,808
widespread marketing of

2425
02:23:59,808 --> 02:24:00,408
marijuana whether it's through

2426
02:24:00,408 --> 02:24:02,408
billboards, storefronts

2427
02:24:04,179 --> 02:24:04,512
advertise advertisement or

2428
02:24:04,512 --> 02:24:06,512
signage.

2429
02:24:08,750 --> 02:24:09,350
The accessibility and available

2430
02:24:09,350 --> 02:24:10,510
city of marijuana is

2431
02:24:10,510 --> 02:24:12,451
unparalleled compared to other

2432
02:24:14,890 --> 02:24:14,723
drugs in the city.

2433
02:24:14,723 --> 02:24:17,123
When Cities League leaders

2434
02:24:18,259 --> 02:24:18,926
advocate for more pot shot, it

2435
02:24:18,926 --> 02:24:21,926
makes our society less safe.

2436
02:24:23,365 --> 02:24:24,980
People do not make their best

2437
02:24:24,980 --> 02:24:24,332
decisions when they are high or

2438
02:24:24,332 --> 02:24:26,332
.

2439
02:24:27,869 --> 02:24:28,570
Please stop putting profits

2440
02:24:28,570 --> 02:24:31,570
ahead of young people's health

2441
02:24:33,175 --> 02:24:34,750
and safety.

2442
02:24:34,750 --> 02:24:34,442
Thank you for letting me speak.

2443
02:24:34,442 --> 02:24:35,143
Thank you.

2444
02:24:35,143 --> 02:24:38,143
Kathleen Lippert, if you can

2445
02:24:39,780 --> 02:24:40,348
please unmute.

2446
02:24:40,348 --> 02:24:40,949
>> Thank you.

2447
02:24:40,949 --> 02:24:42,949
Good afternoon Council.

2448
02:24:45,519 --> 02:24:46,221
I want to thanks and you are to

2449
02:24:46,221 --> 02:24:49,221
Escobar for her wise comments

2450
02:24:49,424 --> 02:24:50,158
and concerns regarding tobacco

2451
02:24:50,158 --> 02:24:50,825
related products and the degree

2452
02:24:50,825 --> 02:24:54,290
and the harms that they pose

2453
02:24:54,290 --> 02:24:54,862
for children.

2454
02:24:54,862 --> 02:24:55,430
But I wanted to speak about

2455
02:24:55,430 --> 02:24:57,430
parks and recreational

2456
02:24:59,660 --> 02:24:59,434
activities for youth that are

2457
02:24:59,434 --> 02:25:00,100
essential.

2458
02:25:00,100 --> 02:25:02,500
>> One of those recreational

2459
02:25:03,938 --> 02:25:04,439
resources it's a service soccer

2460
02:25:04,439 --> 02:25:05,730
fields of Del Mar.

2461
02:25:05,730 --> 02:25:08,730
But the city continues to

2462
02:25:08,810 --> 02:25:09,511
ignore its responsibility to

2463
02:25:09,511 --> 02:25:11,911
enforce the deed restrictions

2464
02:25:13,215 --> 02:25:16,215
adopted in 2016 when the city

2465
02:25:17,352 --> 02:25:18,530
entered a 28 year lease with

2466
02:25:18,530 --> 02:25:20,453
surf sports effectively ending

2467
02:25:22,357 --> 02:25:22,824
two years of peaceful rural

2468
02:25:22,824 --> 02:25:23,725
equestrian use.

2469
02:25:23,725 --> 02:25:26,125
Since 2016 the frequency and

2470
02:25:27,896 --> 02:25:28,597
size of the activities and

2471
02:25:28,597 --> 02:25:29,310
events on this land have grown

2472
02:25:29,310 --> 02:25:31,310
exponentially.

2473
02:25:33,368 --> 02:25:33,935
Request to the city to adhere

2474
02:25:33,935 --> 02:25:36,335
to the restrictions of

2475
02:25:37,839 --> 02:25:38,506
the grant deed are ignored by

2476
02:25:38,506 --> 02:25:39,141
the city and serve restoring

2477
02:25:39,141 --> 02:25:41,541
the peace, tranquility and

2478
02:25:42,343 --> 02:25:43,450
rural character of

2479
02:25:43,450 --> 02:25:46,645
the community and access to a

2480
02:25:47,215 --> 02:25:47,915
local resource for passive

2481
02:25:47,915 --> 02:25:49,915
noncommercial recreational use

2482
02:25:51,854 --> 02:25:54,254
Walking hiking birdwatching are

2483
02:25:55,657 --> 02:25:56,424
no longer possible Service

2484
02:25:56,424 --> 02:25:59,424
exorbitant $20 a day Fees to

2485
02:26:00,295 --> 02:26:00,929
watch children play Soccer is a

2486
02:26:00,929 --> 02:26:01,763
barrier to access for low

2487
02:26:01,763 --> 02:26:05,363
income families but it also is

2488
02:26:05,467 --> 02:26:05,834
onerous for middle income

2489
02:26:05,834 --> 02:26:06,535
families.

2490
02:26:06,535 --> 02:26:10,135
The city faces a lawsuit for

2491
02:26:10,205 --> 02:26:10,839
failing to honor these grant

2492
02:26:10,839 --> 02:26:13,239
deed restrictions that bar

2493
02:26:14,610 --> 02:26:17,610
large assemblies of people and

2494
02:26:19,148 --> 02:26:19,748
cars 2500 a day are now on

2495
02:26:19,748 --> 02:26:22,148
event weekends and limit

2496
02:26:24,850 --> 02:26:24,486
the use of of property to 25

2497
02:26:24,486 --> 02:26:26,486
days a year.

2498
02:26:29,158 --> 02:26:29,858
>> Thank you to council member

2499
02:26:29,858 --> 02:26:30,559
Yvonne Wilpert for your common

2500
02:26:30,559 --> 02:26:32,959
sense recognition that fixing

2501
02:26:34,630 --> 02:26:37,300
roads preventatively can stop

2502
02:26:38,866 --> 02:26:39,534
the litigation subsequent

2503
02:26:39,534 --> 02:26:41,934
litigation when these roads

2504
02:26:44,940 --> 02:26:45,607
have not been that not been

2505
02:26:45,607 --> 02:26:46,800
fixed but they have been

2506
02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:46,709
identified.

2507
02:26:46,709 --> 02:26:49,780
>> Thank you for has concluded

2508
02:26:49,780 --> 02:26:49,411
by big If you can please

2509
02:26:49,411 --> 02:26:49,979
unmute.

2510
02:26:49,979 --> 02:26:51,979
>> Hi Blaire Beekman.

2511
02:26:53,615 --> 02:26:53,915
Thanks for the morning meeting

2512
02:26:53,915 --> 02:26:55,915
today.

2513
02:26:57,152 --> 02:26:57,853
A real good luck that you know

2514
02:26:57,853 --> 02:26:58,554
I started coming to public

2515
02:26:58,554 --> 02:27:01,554
meetings because you know I've

2516
02:27:02,791 --> 02:27:03,492
been so I was so shocked by

2517
02:27:03,492 --> 02:27:04,326
the events of 911 and the fact

2518
02:27:04,326 --> 02:27:07,663
that we don't ever know how to

2519
02:27:07,663 --> 02:27:08,297
talk about it more openly and

2520
02:27:08,297 --> 02:27:10,697
accountably what MAY have

2521
02:27:11,834 --> 02:27:12,534
actually happened on that day.

2522
02:27:12,534 --> 02:27:13,269
You know, when tech policies

2523
02:27:13,269 --> 02:27:14,102
came around tech accountability

2524
02:27:14,102 --> 02:27:17,139
it to me it was a really

2525
02:27:17,139 --> 02:27:17,807
important way to practice how

2526
02:27:17,807 --> 02:27:18,306
we can eventually talk about

2527
02:27:18,306 --> 02:27:20,706
peace and not war.

2528
02:27:21,711 --> 02:27:22,378
Good luck to the people who are

2529
02:27:22,378 --> 02:27:23,178
talking at this time and how

2530
02:27:23,178 --> 02:27:26,682
you know in the importance of

2531
02:27:26,682 --> 02:27:27,283
their items.

2532
02:27:27,283 --> 02:27:27,649
>> The free speech is

2533
02:27:27,649 --> 02:27:28,317
important.

2534
02:27:28,317 --> 02:27:30,717
Believing them is important

2535
02:27:31,554 --> 02:27:31,854
understanding their point of

2536
02:27:31,854 --> 02:27:32,721
view.

2537
02:27:32,721 --> 02:27:33,389
I think you can get a lot of

2538
02:27:33,389 --> 02:27:35,789
support from council persons

2539
02:27:36,692 --> 02:27:37,493
but also respecting the decorum

2540
02:27:37,493 --> 02:27:39,662
of a public meeting process and

2541
02:27:39,662 --> 02:27:39,995
learning to balance those two

2542
02:27:39,995 --> 02:27:40,730
things.

2543
02:27:40,730 --> 02:27:41,300
Good luck how we all try to do

2544
02:27:41,300 --> 02:27:43,300
that.

2545
02:27:44,133 --> 02:27:44,634
I have to do that with my

2546
02:27:44,634 --> 02:27:45,401
issues.

2547
02:27:45,401 --> 02:27:45,768
I can go through the tear my

2548
02:27:45,768 --> 02:27:47,768
teeth out.

2549
02:27:49,672 --> 02:27:50,640
You know how shocking to think

2550
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:51,607
the day of 911 was But I try to

2551
02:27:51,607 --> 02:27:54,342
do it working within day to day

2552
02:27:54,342 --> 02:27:55,278
policies.

2553
02:27:55,278 --> 02:27:55,912
You guys have had a lot of

2554
02:27:55,912 --> 02:27:56,579
patience with me trying to

2555
02:27:56,579 --> 02:27:58,915
practice that and learn that

2556
02:27:58,915 --> 02:27:59,615
and thank you and I hope that

2557
02:27:59,615 --> 02:28:00,316
it can be good advice for

2558
02:28:00,316 --> 02:28:03,419
the new people who are talking

2559
02:28:03,419 --> 02:28:04,530
at this time how they can learn

2560
02:28:04,530 --> 02:28:06,453
to balance their feelings.

2561
02:28:08,824 --> 02:28:09,458
With that said, I'm dealing a

2562
02:28:09,458 --> 02:28:09,825
lot with the Alpers issues

2563
02:28:09,825 --> 02:28:10,593
right now.

2564
02:28:10,593 --> 02:28:13,529
I think everyone is in San

2565
02:28:13,529 --> 02:28:14,263
Diego Really Good luck.

2566
02:28:14,263 --> 02:28:17,863
The city of Oakland After Trump

2567
02:28:17,967 --> 02:28:18,601
first got into office it was

2568
02:28:18,601 --> 02:28:19,267
either the Oakland police,

2569
02:28:19,267 --> 02:28:19,735
the sheriff's department or

2570
02:28:19,735 --> 02:28:21,735
the bart police.

2571
02:28:23,139 --> 02:28:23,906
They started jumping on the bus

2572
02:28:23,906 --> 02:28:27,506
on the busses and taking out

2573
02:28:27,977 --> 02:28:28,644
criminals like they had

2574
02:28:28,644 --> 02:28:31,440
the technology that allowed

2575
02:28:32,181 --> 02:28:32,849
them to know exactly where

2576
02:28:32,849 --> 02:28:33,483
criminals were and they were

2577
02:28:33,483 --> 02:28:34,150
just plucking them out of

2578
02:28:34,150 --> 02:28:37,860
everywhere And it was really

2579
02:28:37,860 --> 02:28:37,720
questionable how they were

2580
02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:38,387
doing that and that seemed

2581
02:28:38,387 --> 02:28:41,387
illegal And so they stopped

2582
02:28:42,325 --> 02:28:42,959
doing that and I think that's

2583
02:28:42,959 --> 02:28:43,659
what San Diego police and

2584
02:28:43,659 --> 02:28:46,659
parents are trying to address.

2585
02:28:47,263 --> 02:28:48,630
What is legal in their work

2586
02:28:48,630 --> 02:28:48,731
with their lpr use and how do

2587
02:28:48,731 --> 02:28:51,131
we have that conversation

2588
02:28:52,434 --> 02:28:53,102
openly and clearly to

2589
02:28:53,102 --> 02:28:53,736
understand guidelines You're

2590
02:28:53,736 --> 02:28:55,736
talking concluded Hector.

2591
02:28:59,542 --> 02:29:00,210
>> If you can please unmute.

2592
02:29:00,210 --> 02:29:00,876
Thanks for taking my call.

2593
02:29:00,876 --> 02:29:03,876
I wanted to talk about

2594
02:29:04,180 --> 02:29:04,981
the Tijuana sewer problem

2595
02:29:04,981 --> 02:29:05,849
that's never seems to be going

2596
02:29:05,849 --> 02:29:09,449
away and Mexico is not our

2597
02:29:09,518 --> 02:29:10,185
friend.

2598
02:29:10,185 --> 02:29:12,585
They've imported millions of

2599
02:29:14,900 --> 02:29:14,757
pounds of dope and killed

2600
02:29:14,757 --> 02:29:17,157
400,000 of our young people.

2601
02:29:18,895 --> 02:29:19,695
Right now they're spending $1

2602
02:29:19,695 --> 02:29:22,695
billion in Tijuana on elevated

2603
02:29:24,801 --> 02:29:25,435
highway two and they're not

2604
02:29:25,435 --> 02:29:25,902
taking care of their sewer

2605
02:29:25,902 --> 02:29:27,902
treatment plant.

2606
02:29:29,172 --> 02:29:29,940
They're spending a building

2607
02:29:29,940 --> 02:29:33,540
billion on a deepwater port in

2608
02:29:34,100 --> 02:29:34,310
the Gulf of California near

2609
02:29:34,310 --> 02:29:34,911
there.

2610
02:29:34,911 --> 02:29:35,644
They're going to start

2611
02:29:35,644 --> 02:29:38,114
importing a lot of stuff there.

2612
02:29:38,114 --> 02:29:38,882
They're building a competition

2613
02:29:38,882 --> 02:29:42,482
to the Panama Canal with China

2614
02:29:43,219 --> 02:29:44,200
down there in Panama to build

2615
02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:44,320
rail lines and to deep water

2616
02:29:44,320 --> 02:29:46,320
ports.

2617
02:29:47,257 --> 02:29:47,757
You're spending $10 billion

2618
02:29:47,757 --> 02:29:49,757
with the Chinese.

2619
02:29:51,995 --> 02:29:52,595
They're criminal buddy who are

2620
02:29:52,595 --> 02:29:54,995
importing all the drugs.

2621
02:29:56,650 --> 02:29:56,699
So we need to focus on

2622
02:29:56,699 --> 02:29:59,990
the Tijuana River problem,

2623
02:30:01,471 --> 02:30:02,272
build our own sewer plants,

2624
02:30:02,272 --> 02:30:06,142
steady the air and we'll have a

2625
02:30:06,142 --> 02:30:06,810
tariff on Mexico.

2626
02:30:06,810 --> 02:30:07,443
Trump's got tariffs on them.

2627
02:30:07,443 --> 02:30:07,811
We'll take tariff money to

2628
02:30:07,811 --> 02:30:09,811
build it.

2629
02:30:10,380 --> 02:30:11,248
Don't kid yourself.

2630
02:30:11,248 --> 02:30:11,947
Mexico is not our friend with

2631
02:30:11,947 --> 02:30:14,947
being friends with those guys.

2632
02:30:15,152 --> 02:30:15,552
They're polluting the young

2633
02:30:15,552 --> 02:30:17,552
kids lungs.

2634
02:30:20,323 --> 02:30:21,570
We don't need to study no more

2635
02:30:21,570 --> 02:30:21,691
about the Tijuana River Valley.

2636
02:30:21,691 --> 02:30:24,691
That's a waste of money

2637
02:30:24,795 --> 02:30:25,595
studying And anyone wants to

2638
02:30:25,595 --> 02:30:28,898
study and make them go swimming

2639
02:30:28,898 --> 02:30:29,865
down there.

2640
02:30:29,865 --> 02:30:34,650
And also any kind of pro border

2641
02:30:34,103 --> 02:30:34,738
stuff with those guys it's over

2642
02:30:34,738 --> 02:30:35,720
until they fix their sewer

2643
02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:37,720
problem.

2644
02:30:39,242 --> 02:30:39,843
But we can fix us.

2645
02:30:39,843 --> 02:30:42,843
Stay in the yard sewer

2646
02:30:43,714 --> 02:30:44,114
treatment plant on our side of

2647
02:30:44,114 --> 02:30:44,881
the border.

2648
02:30:44,881 --> 02:30:48,184
Use the land, use the will do

2649
02:30:48,184 --> 02:30:48,919
the mining and then we'll build

2650
02:30:48,919 --> 02:30:52,519
it will charge them will charge

2651
02:30:52,956 --> 02:30:53,356
them off by $10 to come across

2652
02:30:53,356 --> 02:30:55,356
the border.

2653
02:30:57,494 --> 02:30:57,994
We just got to be done with one

2654
02:30:57,994 --> 02:30:58,695
problem at a time.

2655
02:30:58,695 --> 02:31:01,695
And otherwise it's never going

2656
02:31:03,466 --> 02:31:03,866
to get solved.

2657
02:31:03,866 --> 02:31:04,467
>> Okay.

2658
02:31:04,467 --> 02:31:05,301
Your time has concluded.

2659
02:31:05,301 --> 02:31:06,937
John Stump our next speaker

2660
02:31:06,937 --> 02:31:07,304
after that is pretty strange on

2661
02:31:07,304 --> 02:31:09,304
the stump.

2662
02:31:11,275 --> 02:31:11,775
>> Please proceed.

2663
02:31:11,775 --> 02:31:12,342
I cannot.

2664
02:31:12,342 --> 02:31:14,342
There you go.

2665
02:31:16,646 --> 02:31:17,581
Hey, there I go.

2666
02:31:17,581 --> 02:31:19,981
>> Well, I was really

2667
02:31:21,852 --> 02:31:23,852
disappointed.

2668
02:31:26,890 --> 02:31:26,757
>> Item 613 an Initially I

2669
02:31:26,757 --> 02:31:29,157
thought maybe these speakers

2670
02:31:31,127 --> 02:31:33,527
who are talking about

2671
02:31:36,100 --> 02:31:38,500
the different conspiracies just

2672
02:31:39,236 --> 02:31:42,236
got something right that maybe

2673
02:31:45,475 --> 02:31:49,750
maybe it is drinking blood an

2674
02:31:49,813 --> 02:31:50,347
oath to Satan or something that

2675
02:31:50,347 --> 02:31:51,810
guides his counsel.

2676
02:31:51,810 --> 02:31:54,681
But of course I don't think

2677
02:31:54,852 --> 02:31:55,652
I've gone that far.

2678
02:31:55,652 --> 02:31:58,652
>> Luckily the other lesson of

2679
02:31:59,790 --> 02:32:00,491
today's council meeting is if

2680
02:32:00,491 --> 02:32:04,910
you don't do things right and

2681
02:32:05,162 --> 02:32:09,650
you don't get on top of it, you

2682
02:32:09,650 --> 02:32:09,566
pay millions of dollars in

2683
02:32:09,566 --> 02:32:10,333
court settlements.

2684
02:32:10,333 --> 02:32:12,268
And that's the beauty of

2685
02:32:12,268 --> 02:32:14,668
the Constitution The us

2686
02:32:17,441 --> 02:32:18,308
Constitution.

2687
02:32:18,308 --> 02:32:20,708
They divided the government

2688
02:32:21,212 --> 02:32:24,212
into three parts an executive,

2689
02:32:25,983 --> 02:32:26,817
a legislative and judicial.

2690
02:32:26,817 --> 02:32:27,517
And thank GOD for the judicial

2691
02:32:27,517 --> 02:32:30,517
because it gives us an

2692
02:32:31,788 --> 02:32:34,188
opportunity when the executive

2693
02:32:35,960 --> 02:32:36,826
and the legislature don't

2694
02:32:36,826 --> 02:32:39,826
listen to the citizens and

2695
02:32:40,997 --> 02:32:44,597
the concerns of the citizens an

2696
02:32:45,603 --> 02:32:46,203
opportunity of where to proceed

2697
02:32:46,203 --> 02:32:48,603
and maybe get justice.

2698
02:32:50,808 --> 02:32:54,408
>> So I hope that the council

2699
02:32:55,813 --> 02:32:56,881
fully funds the liability fund.

2700
02:32:56,881 --> 02:33:00,481
i hope the council fully funds

2701
02:33:01,384 --> 02:33:03,784
the flood damage from 2024

2702
02:33:06,390 --> 02:33:07,358
During the budget hearings.

2703
02:33:07,358 --> 02:33:07,624
And I wish you all a very good

2704
02:33:07,624 --> 02:33:09,624
day.

2705
02:33:12,162 --> 02:33:12,563
And I want to say hi to

2706
02:33:12,563 --> 02:33:14,563
the senator.

2707
02:33:15,800 --> 02:33:16,601
She supported one of

2708
02:33:16,601 --> 02:33:19,100
the settlements and recognized

2709
02:33:21,405 --> 02:33:22,173
the judicial system.

2710
02:33:22,173 --> 02:33:23,140
>> Sorry your time has expired.

2711
02:33:23,140 --> 02:33:25,876
Judy Strang if you can please

2712
02:33:25,876 --> 02:33:26,743
unmute.

2713
02:33:26,743 --> 02:33:27,143
>> After that is Peggy Walker.

2714
02:33:27,143 --> 02:33:29,143
Judy Strain.

2715
02:33:30,781 --> 02:33:31,615
Yes, Good afternoon.

2716
02:33:31,615 --> 02:33:34,150
I've been speculating on

2717
02:33:36,530 --> 02:33:36,754
the defeat of Prop eight

2718
02:33:36,754 --> 02:33:40,354
measure on the ballot as many

2719
02:33:40,624 --> 02:33:41,593
media outlets have.

2720
02:33:41,593 --> 02:33:45,629
And I would remind us all that

2721
02:33:45,629 --> 02:33:49,229
within the city of San Diego 24

2722
02:33:50,670 --> 02:33:50,568
to 25% of the voters identify

2723
02:33:50,568 --> 02:33:51,169
as independent.

2724
02:33:51,169 --> 02:33:51,735
And that percentage gets

2725
02:33:51,735 --> 02:33:53,735
considerably higher in

2726
02:33:55,273 --> 02:33:57,673
the unincorporated area of

2727
02:33:58,976 --> 02:33:59,310
the county up to as much as

2728
02:33:59,310 --> 02:34:00,143
3,435%.

2729
02:34:00,143 --> 02:34:04,315
So I'm wondering if we have a

2730
02:34:04,315 --> 02:34:04,815
good understanding of what

2731
02:34:04,815 --> 02:34:05,483
the public wants.

2732
02:34:05,483 --> 02:34:09,830
You hear from a portion of

2733
02:34:09,354 --> 02:34:09,720
the public expressing their

2734
02:34:09,720 --> 02:34:10,421
concerns.

2735
02:34:10,421 --> 02:34:14,210
I'm wondering if the lack of

2736
02:34:14,692 --> 02:34:15,360
attendance at city council

2737
02:34:15,360 --> 02:34:17,760
meeting some indication that

2738
02:34:19,330 --> 02:34:20,264
perhaps you're missing work.

2739
02:34:20,264 --> 02:34:20,664
We need to tell you what we

2740
02:34:20,664 --> 02:34:22,664
care about.

2741
02:34:24,235 --> 02:34:24,935
I often speak to public health

2742
02:34:24,935 --> 02:34:27,935
concerns and so I appreciated

2743
02:34:28,606 --> 02:34:29,207
the young mother who spoke to

2744
02:34:29,207 --> 02:34:31,607
her children picking up

2745
02:34:33,711 --> 02:34:34,579
Cigarets in the public venue.

2746
02:34:34,579 --> 02:34:35,380
>> And many of us have spoken

2747
02:34:35,380 --> 02:34:38,980
to you about the role of

2748
02:34:39,150 --> 02:34:39,717
smoking and vaping be it

2749
02:34:39,717 --> 02:34:41,717
tobacco or marijuana.

2750
02:34:42,654 --> 02:34:43,321
And I would hope that you'd

2751
02:34:43,321 --> 02:34:44,550
have some appreciation for

2752
02:34:44,550 --> 02:34:47,655
the fact that here in our

2753
02:34:47,825 --> 02:34:48,393
county only 9% of

2754
02:34:48,393 --> 02:34:50,393
the population smokes.

2755
02:34:52,764 --> 02:34:53,531
It isn't a right to smoke.

2756
02:34:53,531 --> 02:34:54,199
So when we bring to your

2757
02:34:54,199 --> 02:34:57,199
attention that we would like

2758
02:34:58,680 --> 02:34:58,836
our public venues to be smoke

2759
02:34:58,836 --> 02:34:59,504
free and bakery so that you

2760
02:34:59,504 --> 02:35:02,504
would reduce the toxic waste

2761
02:35:03,241 --> 02:35:03,907
that occurs because of it And

2762
02:35:03,907 --> 02:35:04,575
in an area where everything

2763
02:35:04,575 --> 02:35:07,412
leads to the ocean it would

2764
02:35:07,412 --> 02:35:08,130
certainly improve the quality

2765
02:35:08,130 --> 02:35:08,780
of the water as well.

2766
02:35:08,780 --> 02:35:12,830
I hope you're listening to us.

2767
02:35:12,830 --> 02:35:12,750
We are not choosing sides.

2768
02:35:12,750 --> 02:35:13,551
We're just speaking for

2769
02:35:13,551 --> 02:35:16,855
ourselves as people who want to

2770
02:35:16,855 --> 02:35:17,522
be healthy and really hope that

2771
02:35:17,522 --> 02:35:20,522
everyone around us has that

2772
02:35:20,858 --> 02:35:21,593
opportunity as well and has an

2773
02:35:21,593 --> 02:35:22,294
opportunity to live where their

2774
02:35:22,294 --> 02:35:25,894
air and their water is cleaner

2775
02:35:26,364 --> 02:35:26,897
and that their air is smoke

2776
02:35:26,897 --> 02:35:27,265
free and vape free.

2777
02:35:27,265 --> 02:35:27,632
Thank you.

2778
02:35:27,632 --> 02:35:28,500
Thank you.

2779
02:35:28,500 --> 02:35:31,436
Our next speaker is Peggy

2780
02:35:31,436 --> 02:35:32,170
Walker.

2781
02:35:32,170 --> 02:35:32,838
>> After that is 7499.

2782
02:35:32,838 --> 02:35:35,238
Peggy Walker please unmute.

2783
02:35:36,400 --> 02:35:36,875
Good morning and thank you.

2784
02:35:36,875 --> 02:35:37,508
As a public health advocate I'd

2785
02:35:37,508 --> 02:35:39,908
like to share important

2786
02:35:40,712 --> 02:35:41,413
information just published by

2787
02:35:41,413 --> 02:35:43,813
the International Journal of

2788
02:35:45,950 --> 02:35:46,685
Drug Policy which is warning

2789
02:35:46,685 --> 02:35:49,685
policymakers of rising rates of

2790
02:35:49,854 --> 02:35:51,123
cannabis hyper misses syndrome

2791
02:35:51,123 --> 02:35:55,360
or c h s c h s was brought to

2792
02:35:55,360 --> 02:35:56,610
our attention here years ago by

2793
02:35:56,610 --> 02:35:58,461
San Diego addiction specialist

2794
02:36:00,565 --> 02:36:01,265
DR. Ronnie Love who served with

2795
02:36:01,265 --> 02:36:04,265
the National Office of Drug

2796
02:36:04,603 --> 02:36:05,269
Policy.

2797
02:36:05,269 --> 02:36:08,269
DR. Love continues to warn

2798
02:36:09,707 --> 02:36:10,175
about rising admissions in San

2799
02:36:10,175 --> 02:36:10,475
Diego for c.

2800
02:36:10,475 --> 02:36:11,442
h.

2801
02:36:11,442 --> 02:36:14,479
S which is marked by intense

2802
02:36:14,479 --> 02:36:15,180
pain, nausea, vomiting that is

2803
02:36:15,180 --> 02:36:17,180
often uncontrollable and

2804
02:36:19,417 --> 02:36:20,285
screaming.

2805
02:36:20,285 --> 02:36:20,953
This led doctor loved to call

2806
02:36:20,953 --> 02:36:23,353
the symptoms scrambling for

2807
02:36:24,322 --> 02:36:24,690
the vomiting and screaming

2808
02:36:24,690 --> 02:36:25,324
symptoms.

2809
02:36:25,324 --> 02:36:28,324
The Journal of Drug Policy

2810
02:36:29,161 --> 02:36:31,561
Study findings showed 6% of

2811
02:36:33,310 --> 02:36:35,431
marijuana users aged 16 to 65

2812
02:36:38,236 --> 02:36:38,937
developed chc which demands

2813
02:36:38,937 --> 02:36:41,937
costly E.R. Medical attention.

2814
02:36:42,774 --> 02:36:43,375
DR. Love has surprising numbers

2815
02:36:43,375 --> 02:36:43,975
and diagnoses processes.

2816
02:36:43,975 --> 02:36:46,975
Take your time away from

2817
02:36:48,112 --> 02:36:48,781
the care of other E.R. Patients

2818
02:36:48,781 --> 02:36:49,140
following new studies on c.

2819
02:36:49,140 --> 02:36:51,140
H.

2820
02:36:53,180 --> 02:36:53,685
S.

2821
02:36:53,685 --> 02:36:56,685
The Journal has called on

2822
02:36:57,722 --> 02:36:58,424
policy makers to better educate

2823
02:36:58,424 --> 02:36:59,124
constituents about it and to

2824
02:36:59,124 --> 02:37:01,524
oppose efforts to increase

2825
02:37:03,862 --> 02:37:04,463
access to today's high potency

2826
02:37:04,463 --> 02:37:04,829
mind altering marijuana

2827
02:37:04,829 --> 02:37:06,829
products.

2828
02:37:09,168 --> 02:37:12,168
I urge your consideration of

2829
02:37:13,238 --> 02:37:14,105
the Journal's suggestion that

2830
02:37:14,105 --> 02:37:14,906
it's time to take a hard look

2831
02:37:14,906 --> 02:37:17,906
at policies that result in

2832
02:37:18,377 --> 02:37:19,780
rising cannabis hyperemesis

2833
02:37:19,780 --> 02:37:22,780
syndrome cases and the high

2834
02:37:23,715 --> 02:37:24,830
medical and social costs.

2835
02:37:24,830 --> 02:37:24,549
Thank you.

2836
02:37:24,549 --> 02:37:26,549
Thank you.

2837
02:37:27,853 --> 02:37:28,586
Next 27499 if you can please

2838
02:37:28,586 --> 02:37:32,186
unmute after that will be back.

2839
02:37:32,691 --> 02:37:35,691
You wrote Bob Kozinski here.

2840
02:37:36,729 --> 02:37:37,329
The problems at the Torrey

2841
02:37:37,329 --> 02:37:38,300
Pines Glider port are

2842
02:37:38,300 --> 02:37:41,630
continuing to this day to this

2843
02:37:41,633 --> 02:37:42,367
very day Citizens are excluded

2844
02:37:42,367 --> 02:37:43,340
from flying at the Torrey Pines

2845
02:37:43,340 --> 02:37:46,340
Glider port unless they are

2846
02:37:46,939 --> 02:37:47,640
paid members of the private

2847
02:37:47,640 --> 02:37:48,306
organization that calls itself

2848
02:37:48,306 --> 02:37:50,876
quote the United States hang

2849
02:37:50,876 --> 02:37:51,577
gliding and paragliding

2850
02:37:51,577 --> 02:37:52,445
association or use for that

2851
02:37:52,445 --> 02:37:56,450
wouldn't be bad enough on its

2852
02:37:56,882 --> 02:37:57,649
own.

2853
02:37:57,649 --> 02:37:58,317
But you asserts that as a

2854
02:37:58,317 --> 02:38:00,717
private organization it has

2855
02:38:01,554 --> 02:38:02,254
the right to expel anyone they

2856
02:38:02,254 --> 02:38:02,521
want for any reason they see

2857
02:38:02,521 --> 02:38:03,222
fit.

2858
02:38:03,222 --> 02:38:06,222
In particular, they claim that

2859
02:38:06,325 --> 02:38:06,992
they can expel people for

2860
02:38:06,992 --> 02:38:07,693
coming to speak to the City

2861
02:38:07,693 --> 02:38:10,693
council and be critical of

2862
02:38:11,397 --> 02:38:12,980
the business operating at

2863
02:38:12,980 --> 02:38:12,764
the Torrey Pines Glider port.

2864
02:38:12,764 --> 02:38:15,764
Is anyone on this council

2865
02:38:17,300 --> 02:38:17,570
intelligent enough to recognize

2866
02:38:17,570 --> 02:38:18,304
the problem with that?

2867
02:38:18,304 --> 02:38:21,304
That's like allowing the police

2868
02:38:21,674 --> 02:38:22,375
to jail anyone who comes to

2869
02:38:22,375 --> 02:38:22,775
this council to be critical of

2870
02:38:22,775 --> 02:38:24,775
the police.

2871
02:38:26,345 --> 02:38:27,450
That's like allowing lifeguards

2872
02:38:27,450 --> 02:38:27,713
to ban anyone from our beaches

2873
02:38:27,713 --> 02:38:31,313
who comes to this council to

2874
02:38:31,517 --> 02:38:32,840
complain about the lifeguard.

2875
02:38:32,840 --> 02:38:32,951
How insane is that?

2876
02:38:32,951 --> 02:38:36,551
You MAY wonder why so few

2877
02:38:36,722 --> 02:38:37,423
people speak to this council

2878
02:38:37,423 --> 02:38:38,910
about the glider port and you

2879
02:38:38,910 --> 02:38:38,624
MAY use that as an excuse to

2880
02:38:38,624 --> 02:38:40,624
ignore the problem.

2881
02:38:41,727 --> 02:38:42,427
But there are so few people

2882
02:38:42,427 --> 02:38:43,950
speaking because no one wants

2883
02:38:43,950 --> 02:38:46,465
to be banned from using our

2884
02:38:46,465 --> 02:38:47,166
city park just because they

2885
02:38:47,166 --> 02:38:47,834
dare come to this council to

2886
02:38:47,834 --> 02:38:50,234
complain about the business

2887
02:38:51,437 --> 02:38:52,104
operating that park.

2888
02:38:52,104 --> 02:38:52,838
My expulsion for speaking to

2889
02:38:52,838 --> 02:38:55,838
this Council and for testifying

2890
02:38:56,107 --> 02:38:56,843
in court should initiate a

2891
02:38:56,843 --> 02:38:58,843
giant whistleblower retaliation

2892
02:39:01,146 --> 02:39:01,914
investigation by the city.

2893
02:39:01,914 --> 02:39:02,548
But instead each and every one

2894
02:39:02,548 --> 02:39:06,148
of you look the other way.

2895
02:39:06,485 --> 02:39:07,119
This is a big stain on each of

2896
02:39:07,119 --> 02:39:07,720
you that should follow you

2897
02:39:07,720 --> 02:39:08,420
throughout your careers,

2898
02:39:08,420 --> 02:39:11,393
throughout your lives and into

2899
02:39:11,393 --> 02:39:12,240
whatever follows this lifetime.

2900
02:39:12,240 --> 02:39:15,240
It's time to fix this.

2901
02:39:15,427 --> 02:39:16,129
By reactivating the Torrey

2902
02:39:16,129 --> 02:39:16,763
Pines City Park Advisory Board

2903
02:39:16,763 --> 02:39:17,497
and implementing a flight

2904
02:39:17,497 --> 02:39:21,970
waiver for citizens to use our

2905
02:39:21,734 --> 02:39:22,467
public park, we have been hang

2906
02:39:22,467 --> 02:39:25,371
gliding under a simple one page

2907
02:39:25,371 --> 02:39:25,672
waiver in Los Angeles since

2908
02:39:25,672 --> 02:39:26,339
2017.

2909
02:39:26,339 --> 02:39:30,539
It's time to do the same for

2910
02:39:31,760 --> 02:39:31,644
the people of San Diego.

2911
02:39:31,644 --> 02:39:32,612
>> Thank you.

2912
02:39:32,612 --> 02:39:34,414
Thank you Becky Rapp If you can

2913
02:39:34,414 --> 02:39:36,414
please unmute.

2914
02:39:40,153 --> 02:39:40,620
>> After that would be Rosa.

2915
02:39:40,620 --> 02:39:41,454
>> Good morning.

2916
02:39:41,454 --> 02:39:42,155
My name is Becky Rapp and I'm

2917
02:39:42,155 --> 02:39:45,900
here today to bring awareness

2918
02:39:45,900 --> 02:39:45,758
to the illegal products being

2919
02:39:45,758 --> 02:39:46,559
sold in our local smoke and

2920
02:39:46,559 --> 02:39:49,559
tobacco shops all across our

2921
02:39:50,363 --> 02:39:50,796
city including down the street

2922
02:39:50,796 --> 02:39:51,798
from my house.

2923
02:39:51,798 --> 02:39:55,998
When you walk or drive by these

2924
02:39:56,335 --> 02:39:57,360
stores you'll see bright signs

2925
02:39:57,360 --> 02:40:00,360
promoting a drug called crape

2926
02:40:01,541 --> 02:40:02,410
often displayed right in

2927
02:40:02,410 --> 02:40:02,908
the front window.

2928
02:40:02,908 --> 02:40:03,409
It is not hidden and it is not

2929
02:40:03,409 --> 02:40:05,409
difficult to find.

2930
02:40:06,112 --> 02:40:06,746
Kratom is a psychoactive

2931
02:40:06,746 --> 02:40:07,800
substance with opioid like

2932
02:40:07,800 --> 02:40:09,800
effects.

2933
02:40:11,184 --> 02:40:11,885
According to the cdc overdose

2934
02:40:11,885 --> 02:40:14,285
surveillance data, Kratom was

2935
02:40:15,655 --> 02:40:18,550
involved in more than 5200

2936
02:40:19,325 --> 02:40:19,926
overdose deaths nationwide

2937
02:40:19,926 --> 02:40:20,660
between 2020 and 2024.

2938
02:40:20,660 --> 02:40:23,660
To put that in perspective,

2939
02:40:25,231 --> 02:40:25,899
this number exceeds estimates

2940
02:40:25,899 --> 02:40:26,599
of deaths linked to crack

2941
02:40:26,599 --> 02:40:29,599
cocaine during the height of

2942
02:40:30,303 --> 02:40:30,670
the crack epidemic in

2943
02:40:30,670 --> 02:40:32,670
the 1980s.

2944
02:40:35,208 --> 02:40:35,942
Yet one became a national

2945
02:40:35,942 --> 02:40:36,642
crisis that dominated headlines

2946
02:40:36,642 --> 02:40:40,460
while the other is sold today

2947
02:40:40,460 --> 02:40:40,646
and gas stations, convenience

2948
02:40:40,646 --> 02:40:41,381
stores and smoke shops.

2949
02:40:41,381 --> 02:40:45,519
At the same time, many of these

2950
02:40:45,519 --> 02:40:46,185
retailers continue to sell

2951
02:40:46,185 --> 02:40:46,886
other illegal products like

2952
02:40:46,886 --> 02:40:47,487
candy and fruit flavored vape

2953
02:40:47,487 --> 02:40:50,487
products as well as hemp

2954
02:40:51,570 --> 02:40:51,825
derived thc products.

2955
02:40:51,825 --> 02:40:52,292
The question is not whether we

2956
02:40:52,292 --> 02:40:54,292
need more laws.

2957
02:40:55,929 --> 02:40:56,629
The question is whether we are

2958
02:40:56,629 --> 02:40:57,630
willing to enforce the laws we

2959
02:40:57,630 --> 02:40:57,698
already have.

2960
02:40:57,698 --> 02:41:01,267
Today I am asking the City

2961
02:41:01,267 --> 02:41:01,902
Council to direct staff to

2962
02:41:01,902 --> 02:41:02,602
provide a public report on

2963
02:41:02,602 --> 02:41:05,200
enforcement efforts related to

2964
02:41:06,906 --> 02:41:07,607
Kratom flavored vape products

2965
02:41:07,607 --> 02:41:08,208
and intoxicating hemp products

2966
02:41:08,208 --> 02:41:10,608
sold within city limits.

2967
02:41:12,145 --> 02:41:12,813
The public deserves to know

2968
02:41:12,813 --> 02:41:13,513
what actions are being taken

2969
02:41:13,513 --> 02:41:16,513
and how many inspections have

2970
02:41:17,750 --> 02:41:18,451
been conducted, how many

2971
02:41:18,451 --> 02:41:19,151
citations have been issued and

2972
02:41:19,151 --> 02:41:19,553
whether current enforcement is

2973
02:41:19,553 --> 02:41:21,553
sufficient.

2974
02:41:22,855 --> 02:41:23,557
It's time to send a message

2975
02:41:23,557 --> 02:41:26,557
that San Diego ordinances are

2976
02:41:27,127 --> 02:41:27,928
not suggestions they are laws

2977
02:41:27,928 --> 02:41:28,395
and laws that will be enforced.

2978
02:41:28,395 --> 02:41:30,395
>> Thank you.

2979
02:41:33,200 --> 02:41:35,200
Thank you, Roseanne.

2980
02:41:39,872 --> 02:41:43,472
You can never see the opening

2981
02:41:47,314 --> 02:41:47,714
with asterisk sales at retail

2982
02:41:47,714 --> 02:41:48,482
sales, huh?

2983
02:41:48,482 --> 02:41:51,482
You see when you're currently

2984
02:41:51,585 --> 02:41:52,185
processing people the outlet

2985
02:41:52,185 --> 02:41:54,585
put forward in previous

2986
02:42:00,394 --> 02:42:01,227
quarters it could see.

2987
02:42:01,227 --> 02:42:01,929
Well I get that when when I

2988
02:42:01,929 --> 02:42:04,310
start with members of Council

2989
02:42:04,310 --> 02:42:04,331
on Religious Ascension.

2990
02:42:04,331 --> 02:42:04,965
Hello.

2991
02:42:04,965 --> 02:42:05,365
Good afternoon, members of

2992
02:42:05,365 --> 02:42:05,966
the council.

2993
02:42:05,966 --> 02:42:08,966
My name is Rosa Sanchez.

2994
02:42:10,704 --> 02:42:15,504
If you or me and I'm here today

2995
02:42:15,708 --> 02:42:16,476
as a member of the community,

2996
02:42:16,476 --> 02:42:20,547
maybe I'm going to be in those

2997
02:42:20,547 --> 02:42:21,248
lines to see how they almost

2998
02:42:21,248 --> 02:42:24,848
feel imparted in one study Be

2999
02:42:26,530 --> 02:42:26,653
that the audience in on this

3000
02:42:26,653 --> 02:42:27,421
video to share with you

3001
02:42:27,421 --> 02:42:30,421
something that has become part

3002
02:42:30,523 --> 02:42:31,258
of our everyday lives And it's

3003
02:42:31,258 --> 02:42:34,858
for me and my family members

3004
02:42:36,396 --> 02:42:37,430
and it should not be that way.

3005
02:42:37,430 --> 02:42:41,300
>> But I would just like to

3006
02:42:43,270 --> 02:42:46,870
feel that only caption by that

3007
02:42:47,707 --> 02:42:48,409
by a reporter as well as MS.

3008
02:42:48,409 --> 02:42:48,809
But I'm familiar the bibimbap

3009
02:42:48,809 --> 02:42:50,809
accessible.

3010
02:42:55,415 --> 02:42:56,500
If I wanted to go before

3011
02:42:56,500 --> 02:42:57,718
neoliberal waste caffeine

3012
02:42:57,718 --> 02:42:58,486
policy which in contrary would

3013
02:42:58,486 --> 02:42:59,119
be for me and is economic for

3014
02:42:59,119 --> 02:43:02,119
many of us only accessible

3015
02:43:02,589 --> 02:43:03,257
housing and affordable housing

3016
02:43:03,257 --> 02:43:04,250
is the only choice for us.

3017
02:43:04,250 --> 02:43:07,625
But it is very difficult to

3018
02:43:10,530 --> 02:43:11,300
find housing of this nature.

3019
02:43:11,300 --> 02:43:11,999
>> Illiteracy is one they all

3020
02:43:11,999 --> 02:43:14,399
transform in Alexandra and

3021
02:43:18,405 --> 02:43:19,373
struck apartment for us as he

3022
02:43:19,373 --> 02:43:20,740
honors but it as he perceives

3023
02:43:20,740 --> 02:43:23,674
and smoke enters our in these

3024
02:43:24,478 --> 02:43:25,145
multi family units smoke enters

3025
02:43:25,145 --> 02:43:25,780
our homes through the walls

3026
02:43:25,780 --> 02:43:26,246
through the vents through

3027
02:43:26,246 --> 02:43:28,246
the door cracks.

3028
02:43:30,684 --> 02:43:33,684
>> I think that it's an

3029
02:43:35,323 --> 02:43:35,989
appropriate without affecting

3030
02:43:35,989 --> 02:43:36,724
the ability for us to feel

3031
02:43:36,724 --> 02:43:40,324
comfortable and safe in our own

3032
02:43:45,650 --> 02:43:45,766
homes which is the some of this

3033
02:43:45,766 --> 02:43:46,734
gets implemented but almost as

3034
02:43:46,734 --> 02:43:47,802
well as but I can say I even if

3035
02:43:47,802 --> 02:43:50,802
it's completely it's not as

3036
02:43:55,610 --> 02:43:56,844
well the antipathy opposing it

3037
02:43:56,844 --> 02:43:57,545
what many people just think to

3038
02:43:57,545 --> 02:43:58,412
open our windows and to let

3039
02:43:58,412 --> 02:44:02,612
fresh air in But this does not

3040
02:44:05,486 --> 02:44:06,187
help the situation So you and

3041
02:44:06,187 --> 02:44:09,787
problem is it will continue to

3042
02:44:11,259 --> 02:44:11,925
continue to enable them to

3043
02:44:11,925 --> 02:44:12,660
develop the mantle in a way

3044
02:44:12,660 --> 02:44:15,660
the federal funds were released

3045
02:44:20,334 --> 02:44:20,701
in in I say their skin was too

3046
02:44:20,701 --> 02:44:21,402
familiar.

3047
02:44:21,402 --> 02:44:22,136
The problem is that the smoke

3048
02:44:22,136 --> 02:44:22,836
actually stays in our homes, in

3049
02:44:22,836 --> 02:44:25,836
our furniture, in our clothes,

3050
02:44:28,900 --> 02:44:28,676
in the apartments and is not

3051
02:44:28,676 --> 02:44:29,760
allowing us to actually live

3052
02:44:29,760 --> 02:44:31,760
comfortably.

3053
02:44:33,915 --> 02:44:34,681
>> I think I'm on a sort of

3054
02:44:34,681 --> 02:44:38,281
course with them and to forgive

3055
02:44:38,853 --> 02:44:39,520
them for sticking with it And

3056
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:40,321
just like our children's and

3057
02:44:40,321 --> 02:44:43,921
our babies and people in our

3058
02:44:44,240 --> 02:44:44,659
homes complain about how strong

3059
02:44:44,659 --> 02:44:48,259
the smell of the smoke is

3060
02:44:51,499 --> 02:44:52,133
within our homes in much of

3061
02:44:52,133 --> 02:44:54,635
this is personality and I

3062
02:44:54,635 --> 02:44:55,403
expect to see them constantly

3063
02:44:55,403 --> 02:44:56,104
And and that is due to

3064
02:44:56,104 --> 02:44:58,504
the constant constant presence

3065
02:45:01,475 --> 02:45:02,176
of the smoke and one of

3066
02:45:02,176 --> 02:45:05,176
familiarity I think it is

3067
02:45:06,714 --> 02:45:07,415
conditioning simply to feel

3068
02:45:07,415 --> 02:45:07,982
that no family should have to

3069
02:45:07,982 --> 02:45:08,649
live in these kinds of

3070
02:45:08,649 --> 02:45:11,490
conditions within their own

3071
02:45:13,210 --> 02:45:13,488
home and psyche.

3072
02:45:13,488 --> 02:45:15,488
I like it.

3073
02:45:18,660 --> 02:45:19,527
And that's what the familiarity

3074
02:45:19,527 --> 02:45:20,261
is that we are asking that you

3075
02:45:20,261 --> 02:45:23,261
support an ordinance that makes

3076
02:45:24,399 --> 02:45:25,266
all multi family units free of

3077
02:45:25,266 --> 02:45:28,866
smoke smoke free units so that

3078
02:45:31,500 --> 02:45:34,605
a person as many similar areas

3079
02:45:35,242 --> 02:45:35,909
wouldn't be as bad as some of

3080
02:45:35,909 --> 02:45:38,309
these simple tax increases.

3081
02:45:40,448 --> 02:45:41,348
We all deserve to have an area

3082
02:45:41,348 --> 02:45:42,116
that is smoke free and that is

3083
02:45:42,116 --> 02:45:46,916
safe and clean for all of us to

3084
02:45:47,588 --> 02:45:48,356
live in regardless of our

3085
02:45:48,356 --> 02:45:49,157
regardless of how much money we

3086
02:45:49,157 --> 02:45:52,757
bring in just people trying to

3087
02:45:53,662 --> 02:45:56,662
enter and that absolutely set

3088
02:45:59,633 --> 02:46:00,267
up a political scheme political

3089
02:46:00,267 --> 02:46:01,102
and social simplistic and

3090
02:46:01,102 --> 02:46:03,939
simply that And we ask you when

3091
02:46:03,939 --> 02:46:04,539
we ask a city to please be sure

3092
02:46:04,539 --> 02:46:06,939
to support policies that

3093
02:46:12,446 --> 02:46:13,181
support these kinds of

3094
02:46:13,181 --> 02:46:13,915
endeavors within our city which

3095
02:46:13,915 --> 02:46:15,984
you seem to think as you said

3096
02:46:15,984 --> 02:46:16,718
echoing what the icac is our

3097
02:46:16,718 --> 02:46:17,452
final two speakers are medicine

3098
02:46:17,452 --> 02:46:21,520
And then Tony please I mean

3099
02:46:22,900 --> 02:46:25,900
the new Okay thank you.

3100
02:46:26,962 --> 02:46:27,662
i'm going to come I'm here to

3101
02:46:27,662 --> 02:46:28,263
give you my thoughts from last

3102
02:46:28,263 --> 02:46:28,964
time about the emerging

3103
02:46:28,964 --> 02:46:31,933
evidence of marijuana use and

3104
02:46:31,933 --> 02:46:32,534
asthma which is a chronic

3105
02:46:32,534 --> 02:46:33,235
respiratory disease that

3106
02:46:33,235 --> 02:46:33,935
affects millions of Americans

3107
02:46:33,935 --> 02:46:37,372
including my son I just found

3108
02:46:37,372 --> 02:46:38,600
out recently and as

3109
02:46:38,600 --> 02:46:38,673
recreational marijuana use

3110
02:46:38,673 --> 02:46:39,274
becomes increasingly common,

3111
02:46:39,274 --> 02:46:42,274
many people assume it is

3112
02:46:43,345 --> 02:46:43,945
harmless to the lungs.

3113
02:46:43,945 --> 02:46:44,479
However, recent research

3114
02:46:44,479 --> 02:46:46,479
suggests otherwise.

3115
02:46:48,650 --> 02:46:49,351
One national study of 4477

3116
02:46:49,351 --> 02:46:49,951
adults with asthma found that

3117
02:46:49,951 --> 02:46:51,951
individuals who inhaled

3118
02:46:55,230 --> 02:46:55,557
marijuana whether by smoking,

3119
02:46:55,557 --> 02:46:56,224
vaping or both were

3120
02:46:56,224 --> 02:46:58,624
significantly more likely to

3121
02:47:00,762 --> 02:47:01,463
experience an asthma attack

3122
02:47:01,463 --> 02:47:02,130
within one year Compared with

3123
02:47:02,130 --> 02:47:04,530
Nonusers, people who smoked

3124
02:47:06,201 --> 02:47:08,601
marijuana had 64% higher odds

3125
02:47:11,306 --> 02:47:12,730
of an asthma attack and those

3126
02:47:12,730 --> 02:47:15,730
who lived had 81% higher odds.

3127
02:47:16,440 --> 02:47:16,612
A second study examined more

3128
02:47:16,612 --> 02:47:17,311
than 140,000 patients

3129
02:47:17,311 --> 02:47:19,711
hospitalized for severe asthma

3130
02:47:22,484 --> 02:47:23,850
exacerbations after accounting

3131
02:47:23,850 --> 02:47:23,752
for factors such as age,

3132
02:47:23,752 --> 02:47:24,352
smoking status, obesity and

3133
02:47:24,352 --> 02:47:26,352
other health conditions.

3134
02:47:28,757 --> 02:47:29,424
Marijuana users experienced

3135
02:47:29,424 --> 02:47:31,424
substantially worse outcomes

3136
02:47:34,620 --> 02:47:34,730
They had a 68% higher risk of

3137
02:47:34,730 --> 02:47:35,397
death within 30 days a 23%

3138
02:47:35,397 --> 02:47:37,797
higher need for noninvasive

3139
02:47:39,935 --> 02:47:40,635
ventilation, a 65% higher need

3140
02:47:40,635 --> 02:47:41,303
for mechanical ventilation and

3141
02:47:41,303 --> 02:47:44,903
more than double the risk of

3142
02:47:45,473 --> 02:47:46,208
requiring ecmo.

3143
02:47:46,208 --> 02:47:46,675
One of the most intense forms

3144
02:47:46,675 --> 02:47:48,675
of life support.

3145
02:47:51,814 --> 02:47:52,347
While research continues to

3146
02:47:52,347 --> 02:47:53,480
study the underlying

3147
02:47:53,480 --> 02:47:53,449
mechanisms, the message should

3148
02:47:53,449 --> 02:47:54,148
be obvious.

3149
02:47:54,148 --> 02:47:57,148
Inhaled marijuana use MAY pose

3150
02:47:57,787 --> 02:47:58,487
serious risks for people with

3151
02:47:58,487 --> 02:47:59,220
asthma and as policymakers you

3152
02:47:59,220 --> 02:48:02,220
have a responsibility to ensure

3153
02:48:04,126 --> 02:48:04,826
that public health information

3154
02:48:04,826 --> 02:48:05,327
keeps pace with changing laws

3155
02:48:05,327 --> 02:48:05,961
and social norms.

3156
02:48:05,961 --> 02:48:07,961
Residents deserve accurate

3157
02:48:10,299 --> 02:48:10,966
information about these

3158
02:48:10,966 --> 02:48:11,567
respiratory risks associated

3159
02:48:11,567 --> 02:48:12,268
with smoking and vaping

3160
02:48:12,268 --> 02:48:14,668
marijuana especially for those

3161
02:48:16,871 --> 02:48:17,272
living with asthma.

3162
02:48:17,272 --> 02:48:17,672
Thank you.

3163
02:48:17,672 --> 02:48:18,374
Thank you.

3164
02:48:18,374 --> 02:48:19,800
That does include knowledge in

3165
02:48:19,800 --> 02:48:19,474
a public comment Tony had

3166
02:48:19,474 --> 02:48:21,474
already spoken.

3167
02:48:22,878 --> 02:48:23,412
Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

3168
02:48:23,412 --> 02:48:23,779
All right.

3169
02:48:23,779 --> 02:48:24,413
Thank you.

3170
02:48:24,413 --> 02:48:25,147
So the clerk we will now

3171
02:48:25,147 --> 02:48:25,981
adjourn for the noon recess and

3172
02:48:25,981 --> 02:48:28,981
reconvene in open session at 2

3173
02:57:56,887 --> 02:57:57,221
P.M. Or shortly thereafter

3174
02:57:57,221 --> 02:57:59,221
.

3175
02:59:57,309 --> 02:59:59,309
>>

3176
03:03:42,901 --> 03:03:43,870
.

3177
03:03:43,870 --> 03:03:44,537
>> We have a lot of good people

3178
03:03:44,537 --> 03:03:45,400
in the audience so we've got

3179
03:03:45,400 --> 03:03:45,371
the number five.

3180
03:03:45,371 --> 03:03:45,938
Oh, okay.

3181
03:03:45,938 --> 03:03:46,405
So let's get started.

3182
03:03:46,405 --> 03:03:48,405
Good afternoon.

3183
03:03:49,800 --> 03:03:49,608
I will now reconvene

3184
03:03:49,608 --> 03:03:50,276
the special City Council

3185
03:03:50,276 --> 03:03:53,276
meeting on Monday, JUNE 8th,

3186
03:03:54,447 --> 03:03:54,814
2026 to order clerk Please call

3187
03:03:54,814 --> 03:03:55,248
the roll.

3188
03:03:55,248 --> 03:03:55,882
>> Thank you.

3189
03:03:55,882 --> 03:03:57,882
Council PRESIDENT Council

3190
03:03:59,218 --> 03:03:59,885
Member Campbell Council Member

3191
03:03:59,885 --> 03:04:00,219
Whitburn here Council Member

3192
03:04:00,219 --> 03:04:02,219
Foster.

3193
03:04:03,389 --> 03:04:04,189
Here Council Member Ron Wilbur

3194
03:04:04,189 --> 03:04:07,189
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

3195
03:04:08,428 --> 03:04:09,128
Council Member Campion here

3196
03:04:09,128 --> 03:04:11,528
Council Member Moreno Present

3197
03:04:13,932 --> 03:04:14,566
Council Member Ella Rivera and

3198
03:04:14,566 --> 03:04:15,134
Council PRESIDENT LaCava.

3199
03:04:15,134 --> 03:04:17,134
Present also attending

3200
03:04:18,337 --> 03:04:18,972
the meeting our Assistant City

3201
03:04:18,972 --> 03:04:19,605
Attorney Michelle Garland

3202
03:04:19,605 --> 03:04:21,605
Independent Budget Analyst

3203
03:04:23,900 --> 03:04:23,709
Charles Monica Council Affairs

3204
03:04:23,709 --> 03:04:24,376
Advisor in the Mayor's office

3205
03:04:24,376 --> 03:04:25,110
Code advisor and myself your

3206
03:04:25,110 --> 03:04:25,378
city Clerk Diana Fuentes.

3207
03:04:25,378 --> 03:04:27,378
Thank you.

3208
03:04:28,414 --> 03:04:29,140
Council PRESIDENT All right.

3209
03:04:29,140 --> 03:04:29,849
Thank you for that.

3210
03:04:29,849 --> 03:04:32,849
Clerk Pointers Are there any

3211
03:04:32,885 --> 03:04:33,586
comments from Mayor Mayor's

3212
03:04:33,586 --> 03:04:34,286
office, council city attorney,

3213
03:04:34,286 --> 03:04:36,686
independent budget analyst or

3214
03:04:37,590 --> 03:04:38,425
city clerk?

3215
03:04:38,425 --> 03:04:38,824
>> I see the city Clerk is up.

3216
03:04:38,824 --> 03:04:40,824
Thank you.

3217
03:04:41,628 --> 03:04:42,461
Council PRESIDENT I did just

3218
03:04:42,461 --> 03:04:43,195
want to make a quick comment.

3219
03:04:43,195 --> 03:04:43,929
The Office of the City Clerk in

3220
03:04:43,929 --> 03:04:46,533
coordination with the Office of

3221
03:04:46,533 --> 03:04:47,267
the mayor is pleased to

3222
03:04:47,267 --> 03:04:47,900
announce the launch of the city

3223
03:04:47,900 --> 03:04:50,900
of San Diego's new boards,

3224
03:04:51,304 --> 03:04:51,637
commissions and committees

3225
03:04:51,637 --> 03:04:52,338
website.

3226
03:04:52,338 --> 03:04:53,390
The upgraded site continues to

3227
03:04:53,390 --> 03:04:55,439
provide a centralized location

3228
03:04:56,943 --> 03:04:57,644
for information about

3229
03:04:57,644 --> 03:04:58,110
the city's boards, commissions

3230
03:04:58,110 --> 03:04:58,777
and committees.

3231
03:04:58,777 --> 03:05:00,777
Including current membership

3232
03:05:01,481 --> 03:05:02,215
vacancies, current and upcoming

3233
03:05:02,215 --> 03:05:02,982
expired terms and opportunities

3234
03:05:02,982 --> 03:05:06,853
to apply for service in a more

3235
03:05:06,853 --> 03:05:07,487
user friendly format and in 20

3236
03:05:07,487 --> 03:05:09,487
different languages which

3237
03:05:10,957 --> 03:05:11,624
enhances public access In

3238
03:05:11,624 --> 03:05:12,324
addition to enhancing public

3239
03:05:12,324 --> 03:05:15,324
access to information, the new

3240
03:05:15,995 --> 03:05:16,629
services available at

3241
03:05:16,629 --> 03:05:17,364
approximately one third of

3242
03:05:17,364 --> 03:05:20,964
the cost of the prior platform.

3243
03:05:21,167 --> 03:05:21,767
Through negotiations our office

3244
03:05:21,767 --> 03:05:22,335
also secured additional

3245
03:05:22,335 --> 03:05:23,360
features that improve

3246
03:05:23,360 --> 03:05:25,360
efficiency, enhance reporting

3247
03:05:25,772 --> 03:05:26,473
capabilities, provide a built

3248
03:05:26,473 --> 03:05:27,173
in data retention and create a

3249
03:05:27,173 --> 03:05:29,573
more user friendly experience

3250
03:05:30,477 --> 03:05:30,810
for both applicants and

3251
03:05:30,810 --> 03:05:31,411
members.

3252
03:05:31,411 --> 03:05:32,112
Residents interested in

3253
03:05:32,112 --> 03:05:32,712
learning more about the city's

3254
03:05:32,712 --> 03:05:34,712
boards, commissions and

3255
03:05:35,682 --> 03:05:36,349
committees or serving their

3256
03:05:36,349 --> 03:05:37,830
community are encouraged to

3257
03:05:37,830 --> 03:05:40,683
visit the website at Boards dot

3258
03:05:41,121 --> 03:05:41,855
San Diego dot Govee.

3259
03:05:41,855 --> 03:05:42,522
We invite members of the public

3260
03:05:42,522 --> 03:05:45,892
to explore the new site and

3261
03:05:45,892 --> 03:05:46,492
learn about the many ways they

3262
03:05:46,492 --> 03:05:47,227
can participate in local

3263
03:05:47,227 --> 03:05:49,629
government through service on a

3264
03:05:49,629 --> 03:05:50,630
city's board commission or

3265
03:05:50,630 --> 03:05:50,797
committee.

3266
03:05:50,797 --> 03:05:51,231
>> Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

3267
03:05:51,231 --> 03:05:51,598
For the time.

3268
03:05:51,598 --> 03:05:51,965
All right.

3269
03:05:51,965 --> 03:05:53,965
Thank you.

3270
03:05:55,101 --> 03:05:55,368
Clerk Please introduce item

3271
03:05:55,368 --> 03:05:57,368
629.

3272
03:05:58,905 --> 03:05:59,506
Item 629 is the presentation of

3273
03:05:59,506 --> 03:06:00,140
the status of vacancies

3274
03:06:00,140 --> 03:06:00,473
recruitment and retention

3275
03:06:00,473 --> 03:06:02,473
efforts.

3276
03:06:04,210 --> 03:06:04,845
Per government code section

3277
03:06:04,845 --> 03:06:07,245
3502.3 If you were hearing

3278
03:06:08,915 --> 03:06:09,616
council chambers and wish to

3279
03:06:09,616 --> 03:06:10,283
speak to this item please be

3280
03:06:10,283 --> 03:06:10,983
sure to submit your speaker

3281
03:06:10,983 --> 03:06:13,654
slip to the front of the room

3282
03:06:13,654 --> 03:06:14,253
and place your speaker slip in

3283
03:06:14,253 --> 03:06:14,921
the clear box If you are

3284
03:06:14,921 --> 03:06:16,921
participating remotely now's

3285
03:06:17,958 --> 03:06:18,692
the time to raise your hand by

3286
03:06:18,692 --> 03:06:19,425
pressing Star nine or the raise

3287
03:06:19,425 --> 03:06:23,250
your hand icon that you council

3288
03:06:23,130 --> 03:06:23,796
PRESIDENT All right.

3289
03:06:23,796 --> 03:06:24,530
Thank you City Clerk Kim

3290
03:06:24,530 --> 03:06:25,165
because this is an item we only

3291
03:06:25,165 --> 03:06:27,834
do once a year and it's a

3292
03:06:27,834 --> 03:06:28,769
little bit different.

3293
03:06:28,769 --> 03:06:29,502
I'm going to give a little bit

3294
03:06:29,502 --> 03:06:32,105
of a long winded explanation.

3295
03:06:32,105 --> 03:06:32,806
California government code

3296
03:06:32,806 --> 03:06:34,806
section 35 o 2.3 requires

3297
03:06:37,244 --> 03:06:37,977
public agency employers to

3298
03:06:37,977 --> 03:06:38,678
present the status of workforce

3299
03:06:38,678 --> 03:06:41,780
vacancies and recruitment and

3300
03:06:42,215 --> 03:06:42,882
retention efforts during

3301
03:06:42,882 --> 03:06:43,617
the public hearing at least

3302
03:06:43,617 --> 03:06:47,217
once per year before the public

3303
03:06:47,287 --> 03:06:47,987
agencies governing body adopts

3304
03:06:47,987 --> 03:06:48,555
the final budget for the year.

3305
03:06:48,555 --> 03:06:50,955
The stated purpose of

3306
03:06:51,391 --> 03:06:52,920
the public hearing is to

3307
03:06:52,920 --> 03:06:52,759
identify any necessary changes

3308
03:06:52,759 --> 03:06:55,159
to policies, procedures and

3309
03:06:56,960 --> 03:06:56,830
recruitment activities that MAY

3310
03:06:56,830 --> 03:07:00,430
lead to obstacles in the hiring

3311
03:07:01,201 --> 03:07:01,902
process of future employees.

3312
03:07:01,902 --> 03:07:02,536
Each of the city's recognized

3313
03:07:02,536 --> 03:07:04,536
employee organizations is

3314
03:07:05,339 --> 03:07:06,106
entitled to make a presentation

3315
03:07:06,106 --> 03:07:06,840
at the public hearing to

3316
03:07:06,840 --> 03:07:09,840
discuss the status of vacancies

3317
03:07:10,377 --> 03:07:11,111
and recruitment and retention

3318
03:07:11,111 --> 03:07:11,845
efforts for positions within

3319
03:07:11,845 --> 03:07:14,245
the bargaining unit represented

3320
03:07:15,282 --> 03:07:15,715
by the recognized employee

3321
03:07:15,715 --> 03:07:17,715
organizations.

3322
03:07:20,587 --> 03:07:21,221
On MAY 29th, 2026, the city's

3323
03:07:21,221 --> 03:07:21,855
Human Resources department

3324
03:07:21,855 --> 03:07:22,590
provided written notice to

3325
03:07:22,590 --> 03:07:24,758
the city is complying with this

3326
03:07:24,758 --> 03:07:25,191
requirement through today's

3327
03:07:25,191 --> 03:07:25,925
presentation.

3328
03:07:25,925 --> 03:07:29,525
Now for those of you MAY

3329
03:07:29,530 --> 03:07:30,169
remember this item had been

3330
03:07:30,169 --> 03:07:30,731
previously scheduled to be

3331
03:07:30,731 --> 03:07:31,364
heard on MAY 10th but

3332
03:07:31,364 --> 03:07:33,764
the meeting was adjourned

3333
03:07:35,169 --> 03:07:35,969
during the tragic event that

3334
03:07:35,969 --> 03:07:36,737
took place in our city that day

3335
03:07:36,737 --> 03:07:39,506
all our eaos were promptly

3336
03:07:39,506 --> 03:07:40,307
notified of the reschedule.

3337
03:07:40,307 --> 03:07:43,307
Two of the city's recognized

3338
03:07:43,777 --> 03:07:44,377
employee organizations Local

3339
03:07:44,377 --> 03:07:45,450
145 and Local 986 have

3340
03:07:45,450 --> 03:07:47,445
requested to make a

3341
03:07:49,160 --> 03:07:49,650
presentation and we will hear

3342
03:07:49,650 --> 03:07:50,250
those presentations after

3343
03:07:50,250 --> 03:07:52,250
the staff presentation.

3344
03:07:54,488 --> 03:07:55,189
After the conclusion of all our

3345
03:07:55,189 --> 03:07:57,589
ieo presentations the Council

3346
03:07:58,392 --> 03:07:59,260
will have an opportunity to ask

3347
03:07:59,260 --> 03:07:59,593
questions to staff or any

3348
03:07:59,593 --> 03:08:01,593
representative member.

3349
03:08:03,764 --> 03:08:04,364
We will then take public

3350
03:08:04,364 --> 03:08:04,966
comment for this item at

3351
03:08:04,966 --> 03:08:05,299
the conclusion of public

3352
03:08:05,299 --> 03:08:07,299
comment.

3353
03:08:08,102 --> 03:08:08,802
I will turn back to my

3354
03:08:08,802 --> 03:08:09,470
colleagues once more for any

3355
03:08:09,470 --> 03:08:09,770
concluding comments at this

3356
03:08:09,770 --> 03:08:11,770
point.

3357
03:08:12,873 --> 03:08:13,508
If any other recognized

3358
03:08:13,508 --> 03:08:14,208
employee organizations is

3359
03:08:14,208 --> 03:08:17,611
present today and wishes to be

3360
03:08:17,611 --> 03:08:17,978
heard please let the City clerk

3361
03:08:17,978 --> 03:08:19,978
know now.

3362
03:08:23,160 --> 03:08:23,351
With that I see staff is

3363
03:08:23,351 --> 03:08:24,850
seated.

3364
03:08:24,850 --> 03:08:24,818
Please introduce yourselves for

3365
03:08:24,818 --> 03:08:27,210
the record And how much time do

3366
03:08:27,210 --> 03:08:27,354
you need for your presentation

3367
03:08:27,354 --> 03:08:27,755
?

3368
03:08:27,755 --> 03:08:28,121
Thank you.

3369
03:08:28,121 --> 03:08:28,890
Thank you.

3370
03:08:28,890 --> 03:08:31,158
Council PRESIDENT And Council

3371
03:08:31,158 --> 03:08:31,591
members Five minutes for a

3372
03:08:31,591 --> 03:08:32,260
presentation.

3373
03:08:32,260 --> 03:08:32,894
My name is Aboriginal Health

3374
03:08:32,894 --> 03:08:35,596
and the Deputy Director in

3375
03:08:35,596 --> 03:08:35,929
the Human Resources Department

3376
03:08:35,929 --> 03:08:36,663
.

3377
03:08:36,663 --> 03:08:37,331
With me today is Julie Rasko,

3378
03:08:37,331 --> 03:08:39,731
our human resources director

3379
03:08:40,267 --> 03:08:40,768
and Brian Mallard, our human

3380
03:08:40,768 --> 03:08:41,335
resources officer.

3381
03:08:41,335 --> 03:08:43,735
Also in attendance is

3382
03:08:44,639 --> 03:08:45,339
the personnel department David

3383
03:08:45,339 --> 03:08:45,973
Dellinger, personnel director

3384
03:08:45,973 --> 03:08:46,607
and Darren Kinahan, deputy

3385
03:08:46,607 --> 03:08:49,700
director in the personnel

3386
03:08:49,376 --> 03:08:50,770
department to address any

3387
03:08:50,770 --> 03:08:50,712
questions that the council MAY

3388
03:08:50,712 --> 03:08:51,345
have regarding recruitment

3389
03:08:51,345 --> 03:08:51,712
efforts for the classified

3390
03:08:51,712 --> 03:08:53,712
employees.

3391
03:08:54,515 --> 03:08:55,215
As the Council PRESIDENT

3392
03:08:55,215 --> 03:08:55,816
Mentioned, we're here today to

3393
03:08:55,816 --> 03:08:56,451
present on the status of

3394
03:08:56,451 --> 03:08:58,451
vacancies, recruitment and

3395
03:08:59,286 --> 03:09:01,286
retention efforts per

3396
03:09:02,423 --> 03:09:02,890
California Government Code

3397
03:09:02,890 --> 03:09:03,791
Section 3502.3.

3398
03:09:03,791 --> 03:09:04,492
With that I'm going to turn it

3399
03:09:04,492 --> 03:09:08,920
over to Brian who will walk

3400
03:09:12,467 --> 03:09:12,867
through our presentation.

3401
03:09:12,867 --> 03:09:13,634
Thank you.

3402
03:09:13,634 --> 03:09:16,634
Thank you Council PRESIDENT For

3403
03:09:17,380 --> 03:09:17,672
the introduction Council

3404
03:09:17,672 --> 03:09:18,172
PRESIDENT Council members.

3405
03:09:18,172 --> 03:09:18,839
As was discussed,

3406
03:09:18,839 --> 03:09:21,239
the Government Code requires

3407
03:09:22,376 --> 03:09:23,110
the city to present on

3408
03:09:23,110 --> 03:09:23,644
the status of vacancies in

3409
03:09:23,644 --> 03:09:24,378
recruitment and retention

3410
03:09:24,378 --> 03:09:27,378
efforts during a public hearing

3411
03:09:27,482 --> 03:09:28,115
each fiscal year prior to

3412
03:09:28,115 --> 03:09:28,449
the adoption of the final

3413
03:09:28,449 --> 03:09:30,449
budget.

3414
03:09:32,190 --> 03:09:32,620
If in addition each recognized

3415
03:09:32,620 --> 03:09:33,188
employee organization is

3416
03:09:33,188 --> 03:09:35,588
entitled to make that

3417
03:09:36,857 --> 03:09:37,425
presentation relating to

3418
03:09:37,425 --> 03:09:37,992
positions within their

3419
03:09:37,992 --> 03:09:39,992
bargaining unit during

3420
03:09:41,462 --> 03:09:42,620
the hearing in which the city

3421
03:09:42,620 --> 03:09:42,697
makes its presentation.

3422
03:09:42,697 --> 03:09:45,697
If the number of vacancies

3423
03:09:46,134 --> 03:09:46,934
within a single bargaining unit

3424
03:09:46,934 --> 03:09:47,635
meets or exceeds 20% of

3425
03:09:47,635 --> 03:09:48,203
the total number of full time

3426
03:09:48,203 --> 03:09:50,203
positions within that

3427
03:09:51,138 --> 03:09:51,773
bargaining unit, the recognized

3428
03:09:51,773 --> 03:09:52,373
employee organization MAY

3429
03:09:52,373 --> 03:09:53,600
request the inclusion of

3430
03:09:53,600 --> 03:09:55,600
additional information in

3431
03:09:55,443 --> 03:09:56,111
the presentation.

3432
03:09:56,111 --> 03:09:58,511
This requirement is not

3433
03:09:59,413 --> 03:10:00,114
applicable this year because as

3434
03:10:00,114 --> 03:10:00,849
of JANUARY 1st, 2026 when

3435
03:10:00,849 --> 03:10:04,449
the vacancy data was pulled, no

3436
03:10:04,852 --> 03:10:05,753
bargaining unit in the city had

3437
03:10:05,753 --> 03:10:09,353
a vacancy rate at or exceeding

3438
03:10:09,624 --> 03:10:10,257
20%.

3439
03:10:10,257 --> 03:10:10,925
Regarding recruitment and

3440
03:10:10,925 --> 03:10:11,525
retention efforts, the Human

3441
03:10:11,525 --> 03:10:13,525
Resources Department and

3442
03:10:14,495 --> 03:10:15,196
personnel department have

3443
03:10:15,196 --> 03:10:15,865
partnered in recent years to

3444
03:10:15,865 --> 03:10:18,265
enhance hiring processes and

3445
03:10:19,102 --> 03:10:19,834
the applicant experience.

3446
03:10:19,834 --> 03:10:20,435
The Human Resources Department

3447
03:10:20,435 --> 03:10:22,835
has focused on employee

3448
03:10:23,671 --> 03:10:24,339
development and retention.

3449
03:10:24,339 --> 03:10:24,939
These and other efforts have

3450
03:10:24,939 --> 03:10:26,939
resulted in voluntary

3451
03:10:29,377 --> 03:10:31,377
separations decreasing year

3452
03:10:32,980 --> 03:10:33,648
over year since 2022 and in

3453
03:10:33,648 --> 03:10:35,648
2025 the citywide separation

3454
03:10:37,718 --> 03:10:38,219
rate was at its lowest point in

3455
03:10:38,219 --> 03:10:40,219
a decade at 6.3%.

3456
03:10:42,991 --> 03:10:43,658
Looking forward, the personnel

3457
03:10:43,658 --> 03:10:44,259
department will continue to

3458
03:10:44,259 --> 03:10:44,893
identify ways to enhance

3459
03:10:44,893 --> 03:10:47,293
policies and procedures to

3460
03:10:47,929 --> 03:10:48,629
promote efficiency while still

3461
03:10:48,629 --> 03:10:49,297
providing equal opportunity in

3462
03:10:49,297 --> 03:10:51,697
the civil service classified

3463
03:10:52,233 --> 03:10:54,233
hiring process.

3464
03:10:57,405 --> 03:10:58,106
Those efforts discussed related

3465
03:10:58,106 --> 03:11:00,506
to improved employee retention

3466
03:11:01,876 --> 03:11:02,644
and hiring processes have led

3467
03:11:02,644 --> 03:11:05,680
to a city wide budgeted full

3468
03:11:05,680 --> 03:11:06,547
time vacant position vacancy

3469
03:11:06,547 --> 03:11:06,882
rate of 9.82% as of JANUARY 1st

3470
03:11:06,882 --> 03:11:08,882
2026.

3471
03:11:10,885 --> 03:11:11,619
The next two slides identify

3472
03:11:11,619 --> 03:11:14,555
the vacancy rates by bargaining

3473
03:11:14,555 --> 03:11:15,256
unit as of JANUARY 1st.

3474
03:11:15,256 --> 03:11:17,656
The Government Code requires

3475
03:11:18,727 --> 03:11:19,494
the city to identify vacancy

3476
03:11:19,494 --> 03:11:20,128
rates by bargaining unit within

3477
03:11:20,128 --> 03:11:20,695
each designated recognized

3478
03:11:20,695 --> 03:11:22,695
employee organization.

3479
03:11:24,990 --> 03:11:27,990
We broken this up by

3480
03:11:28,690 --> 03:11:28,837
the general and safety groups.

3481
03:11:28,837 --> 03:11:32,437
The vacancy rate for the Deputy

3482
03:11:33,108 --> 03:11:35,508
City Attorneys Association is

3483
03:11:36,978 --> 03:11:37,646
3.141% as of JANUARY 1st for

3484
03:11:37,646 --> 03:11:39,646
Local 127 representative

3485
03:11:41,917 --> 03:11:43,917
employees 11.9%.

3486
03:11:45,954 --> 03:11:46,654
Mta has four separate

3487
03:11:46,654 --> 03:11:47,388
bargaining units within within

3488
03:11:47,388 --> 03:11:49,788
their representation That would

3489
03:11:50,759 --> 03:11:51,559
be the administrative Support

3490
03:11:51,559 --> 03:11:54,559
and field service unit which

3491
03:11:55,897 --> 03:11:56,598
covers classifications series

3492
03:11:56,598 --> 03:11:59,598
such as the clerical assistant

3493
03:12:00,635 --> 03:12:01,236
series The and that vacancy

3494
03:12:01,236 --> 03:12:03,236
rate is at 14.69%.

3495
03:12:05,774 --> 03:12:06,675
The professional unit covers

3496
03:12:06,675 --> 03:12:09,750
classifications series such as

3497
03:12:10,345 --> 03:12:12,745
the various Engineer series.

3498
03:12:14,383 --> 03:12:17,383
That vacancy rate is at 7.14%.

3499
03:12:18,920 --> 03:12:19,654
The supervisory unit covers

3500
03:12:19,654 --> 03:12:20,322
series and classifications such

3501
03:12:20,322 --> 03:12:22,722
as the Building Maintenance

3502
03:12:23,792 --> 03:12:26,192
Supervisor and that vacancy

3503
03:12:28,430 --> 03:12:28,963
rate is at 7.09% in

3504
03:12:28,963 --> 03:12:30,963
the technical unit.

3505
03:12:33,802 --> 03:12:34,503
Covers the series such as

3506
03:12:34,503 --> 03:12:36,370
the Administrative Aide series

3507
03:12:36,370 --> 03:12:39,637
and that vacancy rate is at

3508
03:12:41,443 --> 03:12:42,177
13.85%.

3509
03:12:42,177 --> 03:12:42,878
For the safety groups, Local

3510
03:12:42,878 --> 03:12:44,878
145 represents the firefighter

3511
03:12:49,385 --> 03:12:49,715
unit and vacancy rate is at

3512
03:12:49,715 --> 03:12:50,352
7.34%.

3513
03:12:50,352 --> 03:12:52,752
Local 986 has two bargaining

3514
03:12:54,456 --> 03:12:55,260
units That would be

3515
03:12:55,260 --> 03:12:55,757
the lifeguard unit and

3516
03:12:55,757 --> 03:12:58,157
supervisory lifeguard unit that

3517
03:13:03,264 --> 03:13:03,699
would be at 5.62% and 3.23%

3518
03:13:03,699 --> 03:13:05,699
respectively.

3519
03:13:06,301 --> 03:13:07,200
And then Poea also has two

3520
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:07,703
bargaining units within their

3521
03:13:07,703 --> 03:13:10,103
representation the police unit

3522
03:13:11,206 --> 03:13:12,740
and police management unit.

3523
03:13:12,740 --> 03:13:15,740
The police unit is at 10.66%

3524
03:13:16,512 --> 03:13:17,179
vacancy and the police

3525
03:13:17,179 --> 03:13:19,579
management unit is at 3.33%.

3526
03:13:20,949 --> 03:13:21,817
Vacancy.

3527
03:13:21,817 --> 03:13:25,417
And with that we are available

3528
03:13:25,854 --> 03:13:26,522
for questions.

3529
03:13:26,522 --> 03:13:26,889
>> Thank you so much.

3530
03:13:26,889 --> 03:13:27,556
All right.

3531
03:13:27,556 --> 03:13:28,560
Thank you to staff for

3532
03:13:28,560 --> 03:13:30,560
the presentation.

3533
03:13:30,526 --> 03:13:31,293
We will now hear from Local 145

3534
03:13:31,293 --> 03:13:35,493
who will have up to ten minutes

3535
03:13:39,869 --> 03:13:40,369
for their presentation.

3536
03:13:40,369 --> 03:13:40,836
>> Hello.

3537
03:13:40,836 --> 03:13:41,436
Good afternoon.

3538
03:13:41,436 --> 03:13:43,836
I'm Mark Morrison, vice

3539
03:13:45,174 --> 03:13:45,774
PRESIDENT Standing a city of

3540
03:13:45,774 --> 03:13:46,441
firefighters Local 145.

3541
03:13:46,441 --> 03:13:46,742
With me today is Derek Lewis

3542
03:13:46,742 --> 03:13:48,742
DeLay.

3543
03:13:49,378 --> 03:13:50,450
He's our b division director.

3544
03:13:50,450 --> 03:13:50,813
And we're very excited about

3545
03:13:50,813 --> 03:13:53,813
this opportunity to have this

3546
03:13:54,149 --> 03:13:54,950
discussion.

3547
03:13:54,950 --> 03:13:55,584
We really appreciate your full

3548
03:13:55,584 --> 03:13:56,318
attention because this is

3549
03:13:56,318 --> 03:13:58,718
something that we've identified

3550
03:13:59,155 --> 03:13:59,822
as of critical importance.

3551
03:13:59,822 --> 03:14:00,589
Recruiting and retention has

3552
03:14:00,589 --> 03:14:04,930
been a real challenge as we all

3553
03:14:04,930 --> 03:14:04,793
know.

3554
03:14:04,793 --> 03:14:05,427
I've worked with many of you

3555
03:14:05,427 --> 03:14:06,620
individually on different

3556
03:14:06,620 --> 03:14:08,964
things in terms of public

3557
03:14:08,964 --> 03:14:09,699
safety and I know that you're

3558
03:14:09,699 --> 03:14:10,366
all good people who want to do

3559
03:14:10,366 --> 03:14:10,733
good things and protect this

3560
03:14:10,733 --> 03:14:12,733
community.

3561
03:14:13,469 --> 03:14:13,969
I get it and I appreciate that.

3562
03:14:13,969 --> 03:14:14,403
So we'll start off

3563
03:14:14,403 --> 03:14:15,700
lighthearted.

3564
03:14:15,700 --> 03:14:18,700
We're all trying to break

3565
03:14:18,173 --> 03:14:18,807
the same cake.

3566
03:14:18,807 --> 03:14:19,509
We're all different chefs.

3567
03:14:19,509 --> 03:14:22,509
We all bring different things

3568
03:14:23,145 --> 03:14:23,946
to to the kitchen.

3569
03:14:23,946 --> 03:14:26,810
>> It is my unfortunate duty

3570
03:14:26,810 --> 03:14:26,916
though to tell you that Local

3571
03:14:26,916 --> 03:14:29,916
145 is fresh out of ingredients

3572
03:14:31,220 --> 03:14:31,987
for sugar coating the spoonful

3573
03:14:31,987 --> 03:14:32,688
of sugar to help the medicine

3574
03:14:32,688 --> 03:14:33,122
go down because of budget cuts

3575
03:14:33,122 --> 03:14:35,122
not available.

3576
03:14:36,659 --> 03:14:37,126
And the truth is the taste is

3577
03:14:37,126 --> 03:14:37,827
much more sour.

3578
03:14:37,827 --> 03:14:38,528
So we've looked at ourselves,

3579
03:14:38,528 --> 03:14:41,464
we've looked at the department

3580
03:14:41,464 --> 03:14:42,131
and we've thought what is it

3581
03:14:42,131 --> 03:14:42,798
that has contributed to this

3582
03:14:42,798 --> 03:14:45,798
problem, to this issue with

3583
03:14:46,435 --> 03:14:47,169
recruitment and retention when

3584
03:14:47,169 --> 03:14:47,536
we look at it from the 50,000

3585
03:14:47,536 --> 03:14:48,237
foot view?

3586
03:14:48,237 --> 03:14:51,740
And there's a lot of things.

3587
03:14:51,740 --> 03:14:51,707
But one of them is something

3588
03:14:51,707 --> 03:14:52,408
that's been highlighted by

3589
03:14:52,408 --> 03:14:54,808
several presentations by fire

3590
03:14:55,578 --> 03:14:56,278
department management coming in

3591
03:14:56,278 --> 03:14:59,878
And it's a celebration of one

3592
03:15:00,616 --> 03:15:01,251
of our most incredible

3593
03:15:01,251 --> 03:15:01,984
attributes as firefighters

3594
03:15:01,984 --> 03:15:04,984
something in our culture that's

3595
03:15:05,321 --> 03:15:05,722
wonderful when Serrano Valley

3596
03:15:05,722 --> 03:15:06,589
is on fire.

3597
03:15:06,589 --> 03:15:09,993
Like many of you know, we don't

3598
03:15:09,993 --> 03:15:10,693
have the option of kicking it

3599
03:15:10,693 --> 03:15:11,194
over to committee and say hey,

3600
03:15:11,194 --> 03:15:12,280
what should we do?

3601
03:15:12,280 --> 03:15:15,640
We'll figure this out in a week

3602
03:15:15,640 --> 03:15:15,732
when buildings are on fire,

3603
03:15:15,732 --> 03:15:16,332
cars are wrecked, people are

3604
03:15:16,332 --> 03:15:16,666
sick, people are gravely

3605
03:15:16,666 --> 03:15:18,666
injured.

3606
03:15:19,869 --> 03:15:20,637
The time is now for action and

3607
03:15:20,637 --> 03:15:20,936
we have to solve it then and

3608
03:15:20,936 --> 03:15:22,936
there.

3609
03:15:24,908 --> 03:15:25,675
That's what we do.

3610
03:15:25,675 --> 03:15:28,977
And that often leads to doing

3611
03:15:28,977 --> 03:15:29,679
less with more because we have

3612
03:15:29,679 --> 03:15:30,613
to People are counting on us.

3613
03:15:30,613 --> 03:15:34,213
And that is a cultural trait

3614
03:15:34,317 --> 03:15:35,185
that I think especially with

3615
03:15:35,185 --> 03:15:38,785
fire management a lot of them

3616
03:15:39,522 --> 03:15:40,223
promoted to positions of

3617
03:15:40,223 --> 03:15:40,890
management and they're doing a

3618
03:15:40,890 --> 03:15:41,524
great job but a lot of them

3619
03:15:41,524 --> 03:15:42,125
haven't set foot in a fire

3620
03:15:42,125 --> 03:15:44,160
station in a long time.

3621
03:15:44,160 --> 03:15:44,828
They don't understand the on

3622
03:15:44,828 --> 03:15:45,495
the ground impacts Like for

3623
03:15:45,495 --> 03:15:48,495
instance hey, the bomb squad

3624
03:15:48,965 --> 03:15:49,632
worked a certain way in 1971.

3625
03:15:49,632 --> 03:15:52,320
Maybe it'll work in 2026.

3626
03:15:53,303 --> 03:15:53,970
It's just not apples to apples.

3627
03:15:53,970 --> 03:15:56,970
The cadet program which by

3628
03:15:57,600 --> 03:15:57,674
the way is responsible for

3629
03:15:57,674 --> 03:15:58,208
almost 150 current employees

3630
03:15:58,208 --> 03:15:58,942
one of the strongest

3631
03:15:58,942 --> 03:16:01,342
recruitment and retention tools

3632
03:16:02,278 --> 03:16:02,645
that we have and we're cutting

3633
03:16:02,645 --> 03:16:04,645
it again.

3634
03:16:06,449 --> 03:16:07,830
These are issues that we have

3635
03:16:07,830 --> 03:16:07,917
identified as problematic.

3636
03:16:07,917 --> 03:16:11,421
And again, it's a it's a

3637
03:16:11,421 --> 03:16:12,154
representation and a

3638
03:16:12,154 --> 03:16:12,755
recognition of what some of our

3639
03:16:12,755 --> 03:16:15,155
strongest core traits as

3640
03:16:15,825 --> 03:16:16,393
problem solvers.

3641
03:16:16,393 --> 03:16:17,260
That's what we do.

3642
03:16:17,260 --> 03:16:17,560
So we can get into our next

3643
03:16:17,560 --> 03:16:19,560
slide.

3644
03:16:21,531 --> 03:16:22,650
All of this is going to be

3645
03:16:22,650 --> 03:16:22,732
predicated on facts.

3646
03:16:22,732 --> 03:16:23,934
All of these are pulled from

3647
03:16:23,934 --> 03:16:27,534
either the San Diego joint sd

3648
03:16:29,138 --> 03:16:29,840
Ph.D. Social media handle or

3649
03:16:29,840 --> 03:16:30,306
different municipalities that

3650
03:16:30,306 --> 03:16:32,306
we compete with.

3651
03:16:35,450 --> 03:16:35,512
So I'd like to kick this over

3652
03:16:35,512 --> 03:16:36,213
to Derek Lewis.

3653
03:16:36,213 --> 03:16:39,149
He is a captain in the Post

3654
03:16:39,149 --> 03:16:39,816
Academy training division.

3655
03:16:39,816 --> 03:16:40,517
And this is an excellent

3656
03:16:40,517 --> 03:16:41,183
opportunity for him to kind of

3657
03:16:41,183 --> 03:16:43,583
really highlight what we're

3658
03:16:44,688 --> 03:16:45,155
seeing and the trends that we

3659
03:16:45,155 --> 03:16:45,855
have to address.

3660
03:16:45,855 --> 03:16:48,255
Derek Good afternoon Council.

3661
03:16:48,992 --> 03:16:49,693
I have the opportunity of

3662
03:16:49,693 --> 03:16:53,960
working as a captain at our

3663
03:16:53,960 --> 03:16:53,663
Post Academy training division

3664
03:16:53,663 --> 03:16:54,364
where once graduating

3665
03:16:54,364 --> 03:16:56,764
the academy firefighters will

3666
03:16:57,967 --> 03:16:58,669
then cycle through those

3667
03:16:58,669 --> 03:16:59,680
stations for their first year

3668
03:16:59,680 --> 03:16:59,770
of training.

3669
03:16:59,770 --> 03:17:03,206
And we're seeing we've seen a

3670
03:17:03,206 --> 03:17:03,806
couple of different trends in

3671
03:17:03,806 --> 03:17:04,474
the last few academies.

3672
03:17:04,474 --> 03:17:07,777
And I think I've been there

3673
03:17:07,777 --> 03:17:08,445
probably close to ten academies

3674
03:17:08,445 --> 03:17:12,450
is the recruits or excuse me

3675
03:17:12,549 --> 03:17:12,883
the firefighters are coming out

3676
03:17:12,883 --> 03:17:13,516
.

3677
03:17:13,516 --> 03:17:14,184
They're a little younger.

3678
03:17:14,184 --> 03:17:17,184
So that trend's going down.

3679
03:17:17,220 --> 03:17:17,988
And then also we're seeing one

3680
03:17:17,988 --> 03:17:20,988
80s in career changes going

3681
03:17:21,857 --> 03:17:22,558
from one career firefighting.

3682
03:17:22,558 --> 03:17:23,326
Now everyone that we have been

3683
03:17:23,326 --> 03:17:26,326
seeing go through are amazing

3684
03:17:26,730 --> 03:17:27,464
and I couldn't be more proud to

3685
03:17:27,464 --> 03:17:28,231
see or to work with some of

3686
03:17:28,231 --> 03:17:31,100
these folks and be part of

3687
03:17:31,100 --> 03:17:31,835
their training.

3688
03:17:31,835 --> 03:17:34,835
But what's a common theme

3689
03:17:35,720 --> 03:17:35,705
between the two is that they

3690
03:17:35,705 --> 03:17:36,273
have no work experience or

3691
03:17:36,273 --> 03:17:36,740
getting their minimum

3692
03:17:36,740 --> 03:17:38,740
qualifications.

3693
03:17:39,109 --> 03:17:39,709
They're getting their emt But

3694
03:17:39,709 --> 03:17:40,411
there's there's no work

3695
03:17:40,411 --> 03:17:40,711
experience as a emt in many of

3696
03:17:40,711 --> 03:17:42,711
those.

3697
03:17:43,814 --> 03:17:44,581
So that's adding on our

3698
03:17:44,581 --> 03:17:47,518
workload to bring them up to

3699
03:17:47,518 --> 03:17:48,185
speed in a91 system.

3700
03:17:48,185 --> 03:17:51,185
And when you talk about

3701
03:17:52,550 --> 03:17:52,789
applicants coming through and

3702
03:17:52,789 --> 03:17:53,424
then into the fire department,

3703
03:17:53,424 --> 03:17:56,424
is that resume that robust

3704
03:17:57,428 --> 03:17:58,280
resume just isn't there with

3705
03:17:58,280 --> 03:17:58,362
most of our folks coming

3706
03:17:58,362 --> 03:17:59,195
through.

3707
03:17:59,195 --> 03:18:02,232
So there are going to our

3708
03:18:02,232 --> 03:18:02,899
partners up to the north with a

3709
03:18:02,899 --> 03:18:03,567
better compensation package.

3710
03:18:03,567 --> 03:18:07,104
So that's just an example of

3711
03:18:07,104 --> 03:18:07,805
some of the little bit of

3712
03:18:07,805 --> 03:18:08,439
changes that we're starting to

3713
03:18:08,439 --> 03:18:11,108
see there in the training

3714
03:18:11,108 --> 03:18:11,675
environment.

3715
03:18:11,675 --> 03:18:13,675
Thank you, Derek.

3716
03:18:16,120 --> 03:18:16,779
So to kind of shed a little bit

3717
03:18:16,779 --> 03:18:17,481
of light on how we do business

3718
03:18:17,481 --> 03:18:19,750
on a fire truck or a fire

3719
03:18:19,750 --> 03:18:20,417
engine, you're going to have

3720
03:18:20,417 --> 03:18:23,417
one captain an engineer who

3721
03:18:23,854 --> 03:18:24,455
drives the apparatus and two

3722
03:18:24,455 --> 03:18:25,890
firefighters one as a

3723
03:18:25,890 --> 03:18:28,580
paramedic, one as an emt.

3724
03:18:28,580 --> 03:18:28,825
What we've done as a stopgap is

3725
03:18:28,825 --> 03:18:31,225
had certain calls when

3726
03:18:33,364 --> 03:18:34,640
necessary run by captain,

3727
03:18:34,640 --> 03:18:36,640
firefighter, paramedics or

3728
03:18:37,935 --> 03:18:38,803
engineer paramedics.

3729
03:18:38,803 --> 03:18:43,300
Every person has a job to do.

3730
03:18:43,307 --> 03:18:44,800
The supervisors job is to look

3731
03:18:44,800 --> 03:18:44,675
at a situation and ensure that

3732
03:18:44,675 --> 03:18:47,750
there isn't danger looming.

3733
03:18:47,278 --> 03:18:47,945
Someone coming into the scene a

3734
03:18:47,945 --> 03:18:48,580
car driving in uncontrolled.

3735
03:18:48,580 --> 03:18:51,580
Once you take somebody and

3736
03:18:52,516 --> 03:18:53,170
place them into patient care

3737
03:18:53,170 --> 03:18:53,651
now they're here.

3738
03:18:53,651 --> 03:18:56,510
They're not looking here.

3739
03:18:56,987 --> 03:18:57,688
And because of our inability to

3740
03:18:57,688 --> 03:18:59,688
attract firefighter paramedics

3741
03:19:02,393 --> 03:19:03,160
because they are in high

3742
03:19:03,160 --> 03:19:03,828
demand, low supply, we are not

3743
03:19:03,828 --> 03:19:06,697
competitive at all could be

3744
03:19:06,697 --> 03:19:07,398
switch lights because this is

3745
03:19:07,398 --> 03:19:10,998
the anemic salary range for a

3746
03:19:11,435 --> 03:19:13,835
new firefighter paramedic You

3747
03:19:16,240 --> 03:19:16,974
see that there are 42,000 to

3748
03:19:16,974 --> 03:19:18,974
$51,000 approximately Join cfd.

3749
03:19:20,770 --> 03:19:20,377
Can we switch to the next slide

3750
03:19:20,377 --> 03:19:21,144
?

3751
03:19:21,144 --> 03:19:21,545
This is in Los Angeles your

3752
03:19:21,545 --> 03:19:23,545
same scale.

3753
03:19:25,249 --> 03:19:25,649
The mathematics Do not lie.

3754
03:19:25,649 --> 03:19:27,649
Point blank.

3755
03:19:30,154 --> 03:19:33,991
So this is this is our ask.

3756
03:19:33,991 --> 03:19:34,692
I'd like you to have a look out

3757
03:19:34,692 --> 03:19:37,692
into this audience right now.

3758
03:19:39,300 --> 03:19:39,296
This is what we call our sea of

3759
03:19:39,296 --> 03:19:40,970
red.

3760
03:19:40,970 --> 03:19:40,898
These are the men and women who

3761
03:19:40,898 --> 03:19:44,202
are willing to put it on

3762
03:19:44,202 --> 03:19:44,869
the line operating at the brink

3763
03:19:44,869 --> 03:19:47,869
from all different walks of

3764
03:19:48,372 --> 03:19:49,730
life, all different backgrounds

3765
03:19:49,730 --> 03:19:49,774
,different skill sets and

3766
03:19:49,774 --> 03:19:52,174
different attributes that they

3767
03:19:53,343 --> 03:19:54,112
bring to this department.

3768
03:19:54,112 --> 03:19:54,812
These are the faces that are

3769
03:19:54,812 --> 03:19:58,382
going to suffer if we don't

3770
03:19:58,382 --> 03:19:59,830
address this problem Head on.

3771
03:19:59,830 --> 03:19:59,851
This problem that has plagued

3772
03:19:59,851 --> 03:20:01,853
San Diego City firefighters for

3773
03:20:01,853 --> 03:20:02,186
the better part of three

3774
03:20:02,186 --> 03:20:02,920
decades.

3775
03:20:02,920 --> 03:20:05,920
These are the individuals whose

3776
03:20:07,910 --> 03:20:07,525
shoulders you will stand on if

3777
03:20:07,525 --> 03:20:08,192
you tell it.

3778
03:20:08,192 --> 03:20:11,192
This is America's finest and

3779
03:20:11,295 --> 03:20:11,595
one of America's safest cities

3780
03:20:11,595 --> 03:20:12,463
.

3781
03:20:12,463 --> 03:20:15,463
Them their blood, sweat and

3782
03:20:16,200 --> 03:20:16,900
tears, their divorces, marital

3783
03:20:16,900 --> 03:20:19,300
problems, mental health issues

3784
03:20:21,720 --> 03:20:21,739
from increased exposure to

3785
03:20:21,739 --> 03:20:24,139
human suffering and tragedy.

3786
03:20:25,710 --> 03:20:26,411
That is what we deal in.

3787
03:20:26,411 --> 03:20:29,411
Please don't signal to Local

3788
03:20:30,949 --> 03:20:31,716
145 and its membership that

3789
03:20:31,716 --> 03:20:35,316
that job is only really valued

3790
03:20:36,154 --> 03:20:39,754
in Los Angeles City or Los

3791
03:20:40,124 --> 03:20:40,492
Angeles County or au cfa or San

3792
03:20:40,492 --> 03:20:41,159
Francisco.

3793
03:20:41,159 --> 03:20:43,559
Please address the problem.

3794
03:20:45,697 --> 03:20:46,230
Get San Diego City firefighters

3795
03:20:46,230 --> 03:20:49,230
off of the bottom of

3796
03:20:49,834 --> 03:20:50,602
the compensation survey.

3797
03:20:50,602 --> 03:20:50,969
They are worth so much more

3798
03:20:50,969 --> 03:20:51,603
than that.

3799
03:20:51,603 --> 03:20:54,603
Every single one of them.

3800
03:20:55,600 --> 03:20:55,773
Those are the faces.

3801
03:20:55,773 --> 03:20:56,540
Those are the men and women.

3802
03:20:56,540 --> 03:20:59,540
So I implore you please.

3803
03:20:59,744 --> 03:21:00,612
We want to be allies.

3804
03:21:00,612 --> 03:21:03,612
Things work better when we're

3805
03:21:04,115 --> 03:21:04,683
collaborative.

3806
03:21:04,683 --> 03:21:05,550
>> We will stand.

3807
03:21:05,550 --> 03:21:08,553
This group, this sea of red and

3808
03:21:08,553 --> 03:21:09,219
this is only a fraction of what

3809
03:21:09,219 --> 03:21:09,920
we have available because we

3810
03:21:09,920 --> 03:21:10,288
have a massive incident going

3811
03:21:10,288 --> 03:21:12,288
up north.

3812
03:21:13,358 --> 03:21:13,991
We will stand shoulder to

3813
03:21:13,991 --> 03:21:16,391
shoulder with you against

3814
03:21:18,196 --> 03:21:18,897
anyone or anything that is a

3815
03:21:18,897 --> 03:21:19,597
threat to public safety and

3816
03:21:19,597 --> 03:21:20,365
the men and women who risk it

3817
03:21:20,365 --> 03:21:23,602
all the men and women who have

3818
03:21:23,602 --> 03:21:24,301
been injured on this job,

3819
03:21:24,301 --> 03:21:24,970
the men and women who have to

3820
03:21:24,970 --> 03:21:27,970
endure some of the most

3821
03:21:28,640 --> 03:21:30,640
horrifying sounds like

3822
03:21:32,430 --> 03:21:32,777
the loss, the loss of a loved

3823
03:21:32,777 --> 03:21:36,470
one and the sound of heartbreak

3824
03:21:36,470 --> 03:21:36,815
when a mother sees that she has

3825
03:21:36,815 --> 03:21:37,515
lost her child or someone sees

3826
03:21:37,515 --> 03:21:38,182
that they've lost their house,

3827
03:21:38,182 --> 03:21:38,750
that they've worked so hard

3828
03:21:38,750 --> 03:21:41,150
their whole life for.

3829
03:21:41,520 --> 03:21:41,920
And all of their heirlooms and

3830
03:21:41,920 --> 03:21:42,487
belongings.

3831
03:21:42,487 --> 03:21:45,487
This is what they do.

3832
03:21:46,358 --> 03:21:46,992
They should be compensated in a

3833
03:21:46,992 --> 03:21:49,392
fair and equitable manner.

3834
03:21:51,950 --> 03:21:51,796
Many of you were on the panel

3835
03:21:51,796 --> 03:21:54,196
or on council when

3836
03:21:55,968 --> 03:21:56,300
the compensation philosophy was

3837
03:21:56,300 --> 03:21:57,350
adopted.

3838
03:21:57,350 --> 03:21:57,369
We're not even asking to be at

3839
03:21:57,369 --> 03:21:57,902
the top.

3840
03:21:57,902 --> 03:21:58,302
Just please make us

3841
03:21:58,302 --> 03:22:00,302
competitive.

3842
03:22:01,730 --> 03:22:01,773
Please help us address this

3843
03:22:01,773 --> 03:22:02,474
recruitment and retention Make

3844
03:22:02,474 --> 03:22:05,310
it so that we can't I can walk

3845
03:22:05,310 --> 03:22:06,110
into a fire station one across

3846
03:22:06,110 --> 03:22:06,745
the street where I work and I

3847
03:22:06,745 --> 03:22:09,681
can look at my 24 year old

3848
03:22:09,681 --> 03:22:10,148
firefighter paramedic and say

3849
03:22:10,148 --> 03:22:10,582
hey, stay, stay.

3850
03:22:10,582 --> 03:22:12,582
They care.

3851
03:22:14,920 --> 03:22:15,620
They're going to do what's

3852
03:22:15,620 --> 03:22:16,220
necessary to take care of you.

3853
03:22:16,220 --> 03:22:19,220
Don't go to Los Angeles.

3854
03:22:19,958 --> 03:22:20,659
Don't go to San Francisco.

3855
03:22:20,659 --> 03:22:21,393
This city council, this mayor,

3856
03:22:21,393 --> 03:22:24,596
this city, they care about you.

3857
03:22:24,596 --> 03:22:25,397
Please make it possible for me

3858
03:22:25,397 --> 03:22:25,697
to not be lying when I say

3859
03:22:25,697 --> 03:22:27,697
that.

3860
03:22:29,100 --> 03:22:32,100
And again Local 145 is always

3861
03:22:33,704 --> 03:22:34,406
willing to be a partner that

3862
03:22:34,406 --> 03:22:35,339
Thank you very much.

3863
03:22:35,339 --> 03:22:36,410
And I want to end with just a

3864
03:22:36,410 --> 03:22:39,440
simple question and I hope all

3865
03:22:39,440 --> 03:22:39,744
of you based on your actions

3866
03:22:39,744 --> 03:22:40,112
will make it very clear where

3867
03:22:40,112 --> 03:22:42,112
you stand.

3868
03:22:44,490 --> 03:22:44,749
Do we want the San Diego Fire

3869
03:22:44,749 --> 03:22:45,417
Rescue Department to return to

3870
03:22:45,417 --> 03:22:47,817
training ground status after

3871
03:22:48,186 --> 03:22:49,540
Prop b?

3872
03:22:49,540 --> 03:22:49,922
Or do we want San Diego Fire

3873
03:22:49,922 --> 03:22:53,325
Rescue to be a destination fire

3874
03:22:53,325 --> 03:22:54,260
department that attracts

3875
03:22:54,260 --> 03:22:54,760
the best talent in the world?

3876
03:22:54,760 --> 03:22:57,829
Thank you very much for your

3877
03:22:57,829 --> 03:23:02,290
time and I'll be happy to field

3878
03:23:02,334 --> 03:23:02,935
any questions if you have any.

3879
03:23:02,935 --> 03:23:03,502
>> All right.

3880
03:23:03,502 --> 03:23:04,269
Thank you very much.

3881
03:23:04,269 --> 03:23:07,473
So we're going to do the next

3882
03:23:07,473 --> 03:23:08,140
Aereo and then we'll have

3883
03:23:08,140 --> 03:23:08,840
the council members ask any

3884
03:23:08,840 --> 03:23:11,840
questions they might have of

3885
03:23:20,785 --> 03:23:21,286
you.

3886
03:23:21,286 --> 03:23:23,286
All right.

3887
03:23:26,910 --> 03:23:29,910
We will now hear from

3888
03:23:30,495 --> 03:23:30,829
California Teamsters Local 986

3889
03:23:30,829 --> 03:23:31,130
.

3890
03:23:31,130 --> 03:23:33,130
Yeah.

3891
03:23:34,133 --> 03:23:37,733
And you, sir you will always

3892
03:23:39,405 --> 03:23:43,500
also have up to ten minutes

3893
03:23:44,430 --> 03:23:44,810
working just making sure.

3894
03:23:44,810 --> 03:23:45,410
>> Good afternoon, counsel.

3895
03:23:45,410 --> 03:23:48,410
My name is Patrick Van.

3896
03:23:49,247 --> 03:23:49,915
I'm a steward for Teamsters 96

3897
03:23:49,915 --> 03:23:50,416
representing the city of San

3898
03:23:50,416 --> 03:23:52,416
Diego Lifeguards.

3899
03:23:53,853 --> 03:23:54,453
Thank you for the opportunity

3900
03:23:54,453 --> 03:23:55,870
to speak today regarding

3901
03:23:55,870 --> 03:23:55,454
lifeguard recruitment and

3902
03:23:55,454 --> 03:23:57,454
retention.

3903
03:23:58,991 --> 03:23:59,558
There are many factors that

3904
03:23:59,558 --> 03:24:00,259
contribute to staffing

3905
03:24:00,259 --> 03:24:00,993
challenges but today I want to

3906
03:24:00,993 --> 03:24:04,196
speak broadly to what makes San

3907
03:24:04,196 --> 03:24:04,830
Diego lifeguards unique why

3908
03:24:04,830 --> 03:24:05,497
retention matters and what

3909
03:24:05,497 --> 03:24:08,500
the city can do to preserve

3910
03:24:08,500 --> 03:24:08,901
this profession for the future

3911
03:24:08,901 --> 03:24:09,635
generations.

3912
03:24:09,635 --> 03:24:12,635
San Diego lifeguards are unlike

3913
03:24:13,371 --> 03:24:13,773
almost any other public safety

3914
03:24:13,773 --> 03:24:14,373
profession.

3915
03:24:14,373 --> 03:24:17,973
In fact at the state and

3916
03:24:18,244 --> 03:24:18,978
the national level, lifeguards

3917
03:24:18,978 --> 03:24:19,712
are not even represent excuse

3918
03:24:19,712 --> 03:24:20,112
me not even recognized as first

3919
03:24:20,112 --> 03:24:22,112
responders.

3920
03:24:22,981 --> 03:24:23,715
Very few cities in the United

3921
03:24:23,715 --> 03:24:24,316
States even have a professional

3922
03:24:24,316 --> 03:24:26,316
ocean lifeguard service.

3923
03:24:27,886 --> 03:24:28,587
Fewer still operate year-round

3924
03:24:28,587 --> 03:24:29,255
emergency response systems at

3925
03:24:29,255 --> 03:24:32,425
the skill of which San Diego

3926
03:24:32,425 --> 03:24:33,920
does.

3927
03:24:33,920 --> 03:24:36,920
Our geographic excuse me our

3928
03:24:36,695 --> 03:24:37,363
geography demands that we

3929
03:24:37,363 --> 03:24:37,996
protect miles of coastline,

3930
03:24:37,996 --> 03:24:39,996
multiple harbors, coastal

3931
03:24:41,734 --> 03:24:42,401
cliffs, rocky reefs, marine

3932
03:24:42,401 --> 03:24:42,969
protected areas and some of

3933
03:24:42,969 --> 03:24:43,369
the busiest beaches in

3934
03:24:43,369 --> 03:24:45,369
the nation.

3935
03:24:46,439 --> 03:24:47,139
But what truly makes the city

3936
03:24:47,139 --> 03:24:47,740
of San Diego lifeguards unique

3937
03:24:47,740 --> 03:24:51,244
is the scope of work our

3938
03:24:51,244 --> 03:24:52,780
members perform.

3939
03:24:52,780 --> 03:24:52,645
Of course we handle what most

3940
03:24:52,645 --> 03:24:54,645
people associate with

3941
03:24:56,181 --> 03:24:56,982
lifeguarding water observation

3942
03:24:56,982 --> 03:24:57,717
,ocean rescues, medical aids

3943
03:24:57,717 --> 03:24:59,717
prevention, preventative safety

3944
03:25:01,154 --> 03:25:01,821
work and public interactions.

3945
03:25:01,821 --> 03:25:02,522
But beyond that our members

3946
03:25:02,522 --> 03:25:05,522
also perform scuba search and

3947
03:25:06,292 --> 03:25:06,825
rescue flood response maritime

3948
03:25:06,825 --> 03:25:07,460
firefighting Boating

3949
03:25:07,460 --> 03:25:09,460
Emergencies 911 Emergency

3950
03:25:11,197 --> 03:25:11,863
Dispatching law enforcement

3951
03:25:11,863 --> 03:25:14,863
functions And we offer a 24

3952
03:25:16,102 --> 03:25:16,702
hour emergency response.

3953
03:25:16,702 --> 03:25:17,336
The broad range of

3954
03:25:17,336 --> 03:25:18,360
responsibilities makes us

3955
03:25:18,360 --> 03:25:18,404
difficult to compare to other

3956
03:25:18,404 --> 03:25:20,404
agencies.

3957
03:25:21,400 --> 03:25:21,707
But it's also what makes this

3958
03:25:21,707 --> 03:25:22,275
profession so meaningful to

3959
03:25:22,275 --> 03:25:25,275
the people that do it.

3960
03:25:26,179 --> 03:25:26,913
Our members are highly trained

3961
03:25:26,913 --> 03:25:27,647
public safety professionals and

3962
03:25:27,647 --> 03:25:30,516
the city tarpon depends on them

3963
03:25:30,516 --> 03:25:31,217
Every single day.

3964
03:25:31,217 --> 03:25:31,884
At the same time, recruitment

3965
03:25:31,884 --> 03:25:34,884
and retention continue to be

3966
03:25:35,455 --> 03:25:36,122
major challenges.

3967
03:25:36,122 --> 03:25:36,722
Every year we lose about

3968
03:25:36,722 --> 03:25:38,722
approximately 20% of our

3969
03:25:39,925 --> 03:25:40,626
seasonal workforce and this

3970
03:25:40,626 --> 03:25:41,327
year alone we're expected to

3971
03:25:41,327 --> 03:25:43,727
hire nearly 60 new lifeguards.

3972
03:25:44,397 --> 03:25:45,131
Each of those recruits are

3973
03:25:45,131 --> 03:25:45,798
required to complete physically

3974
03:25:45,798 --> 03:25:47,798
demanding regional academies

3975
03:25:49,635 --> 03:25:50,236
passed background checks,

3976
03:25:50,236 --> 03:25:50,937
complete extensive field

3977
03:25:50,937 --> 03:25:51,571
training and learn to operate

3978
03:25:51,571 --> 03:25:53,906
in one of the most dynamic

3979
03:25:53,906 --> 03:25:54,306
emergency environments

3980
03:25:54,306 --> 03:25:55,175
imaginable.

3981
03:25:55,175 --> 03:25:58,775
A tremendous amount is asked of

3982
03:25:59,450 --> 03:26:01,450
them.

3983
03:26:04,160 --> 03:26:04,717
>> Many work weekends, holidays

3984
03:26:04,717 --> 03:26:05,418
,fixed schedules throughout

3985
03:26:05,418 --> 03:26:06,119
the busiest times of the year.

3986
03:26:06,119 --> 03:26:08,922
Most of our seasonal employees

3987
03:26:08,922 --> 03:26:09,622
receive no health care, no

3988
03:26:09,622 --> 03:26:10,220
pension, no paid leave and no

3989
03:26:10,220 --> 03:26:12,220
holiday pay.

3990
03:26:14,461 --> 03:26:14,827
They start at approximately $26

3991
03:26:14,827 --> 03:26:15,695
per hour.

3992
03:26:15,695 --> 03:26:19,990
And while that wage MAY sound

3993
03:26:19,990 --> 03:26:19,733
reasonable on paper,

3994
03:26:19,733 --> 03:26:20,466
the reality is the cost of

3995
03:26:20,466 --> 03:26:23,506
living in city of San Diego has

3996
03:26:23,506 --> 03:26:24,237
changed dramatically for many

3997
03:26:24,237 --> 03:26:24,903
of the young lifeguards Staying

3998
03:26:24,903 --> 03:26:25,638
in this profession long term

3999
03:26:25,638 --> 03:26:27,638
becomes financially unrealistic

4000
03:26:28,341 --> 03:26:29,276
even if they love the work.

4001
03:26:29,276 --> 03:26:29,909
And this is what and this was

4002
03:26:29,909 --> 03:26:32,909
the work that carries real

4003
03:26:33,280 --> 03:26:33,980
emotion and physical demands

4004
03:26:33,980 --> 03:26:34,581
Over the course of a summer a

4005
03:26:34,581 --> 03:26:35,180
lifeguard MAY respond to

4006
03:26:35,180 --> 03:26:37,180
hundreds of emergencies.

4007
03:26:37,917 --> 03:26:38,584
They will likely encounter

4008
03:26:38,584 --> 03:26:39,219
people experiencing some of

4009
03:26:39,219 --> 03:26:39,819
the worst moments of their

4010
03:26:39,819 --> 03:26:42,819
lives and in some cases

4011
03:26:43,220 --> 03:26:43,323
the last moments of their

4012
03:26:43,323 --> 03:26:43,957
lives.

4013
03:26:43,957 --> 03:26:46,957
This profession is not for

4014
03:26:47,460 --> 03:26:48,261
everyone but the people that do

4015
03:26:48,261 --> 03:26:48,962
do it stay because they do

4016
03:26:48,962 --> 03:26:49,629
believe in the they believe in

4017
03:26:49,629 --> 03:26:52,598
public service and they care

4018
03:26:52,598 --> 03:26:53,266
deeply about the community.

4019
03:26:53,266 --> 03:26:53,934
They know that They know

4020
03:26:53,934 --> 03:26:54,266
the difference that they are

4021
03:26:54,266 --> 03:26:56,266
making.

4022
03:26:57,604 --> 03:26:58,171
Another major part of retention

4023
03:26:58,171 --> 03:26:58,872
is working conditions.

4024
03:26:58,872 --> 03:27:01,975
Many of our facilities are in

4025
03:27:01,975 --> 03:27:02,375
urgent need of repair or

4026
03:27:02,375 --> 03:27:03,109
replacement.

4027
03:27:03,109 --> 03:27:03,810
At Ocean Beach approximately 20

4028
03:27:03,810 --> 03:27:06,813
lifeguards that work out of an

4029
03:27:06,813 --> 03:27:07,446
old station that leaks when it

4030
03:27:07,446 --> 03:27:08,810
rains and contains only a

4031
03:27:08,810 --> 03:27:10,481
single restroom and unisex

4032
03:27:11,585 --> 03:27:12,319
locker room at Mission Beach.

4033
03:27:12,319 --> 03:27:13,190
Conditions have deteriorated to

4034
03:27:13,190 --> 03:27:16,190
the point that lifeguards will

4035
03:27:16,356 --> 03:27:16,990
likely spend years operating

4036
03:27:16,990 --> 03:27:17,691
out of temporary trailers.

4037
03:27:17,691 --> 03:27:20,910
North Pacific Beach lifeguards

4038
03:27:20,927 --> 03:27:21,628
have been working for decades

4039
03:27:21,628 --> 03:27:22,329
out of what is essentially a

4040
03:27:22,329 --> 03:27:22,929
small metal shipping container

4041
03:27:22,929 --> 03:27:25,329
without running water or

4042
03:27:25,732 --> 03:27:26,333
restroom facilities.

4043
03:27:26,333 --> 03:27:26,967
Conditions like these

4044
03:27:26,967 --> 03:27:28,967
absolutely affect morale,

4045
03:27:30,937 --> 03:27:31,605
professionalism and retention.

4046
03:27:31,605 --> 03:27:32,338
When employees are asked to

4047
03:27:32,338 --> 03:27:35,741
perform at a high level for

4048
03:27:35,741 --> 03:27:36,443
public safety work while

4049
03:27:36,443 --> 03:27:37,143
operating out of deteriorating

4050
03:27:37,143 --> 03:27:37,844
facilities, it sends a message

4051
03:27:37,844 --> 03:27:39,479
about how their profession is

4052
03:27:39,479 --> 03:27:40,346
valued.

4053
03:27:40,346 --> 03:27:40,781
I also want to touch briefly on

4054
03:27:40,781 --> 03:27:42,781
compensation.

4055
03:27:45,184 --> 03:27:45,885
As I mentioned earlier, San

4056
03:27:45,885 --> 03:27:46,553
Diego lifeguards are difficult

4057
03:27:46,553 --> 03:27:47,187
to compare directly to other

4058
03:27:47,187 --> 03:27:49,187
classifications because of

4059
03:27:49,822 --> 03:27:50,457
the many of our members

4060
03:27:50,457 --> 03:27:52,457
eventually transition into

4061
03:27:54,294 --> 03:27:55,280
professions like firefighting,

4062
03:27:55,280 --> 03:27:55,661
law enforcement and health care

4063
03:27:55,661 --> 03:27:56,330
careers that share many of

4064
03:27:56,330 --> 03:27:58,730
the same emergency response

4065
03:27:59,633 --> 03:28:00,333
skills and responsibilities.

4066
03:28:00,333 --> 03:28:00,634
But one useful comparison does

4067
03:28:00,634 --> 03:28:02,634
exist.

4068
03:28:04,271 --> 03:28:05,500
Los Angeles County lifeguards

4069
03:28:05,500 --> 03:28:05,639
are one of closest comparable

4070
03:28:05,639 --> 03:28:08,390
agencies in terms of

4071
03:28:08,275 --> 03:28:08,975
operational scope and

4072
03:28:08,975 --> 03:28:09,676
professional responsibilities.

4073
03:28:09,676 --> 03:28:12,760
San Diego lifeguards currently

4074
03:28:13,513 --> 03:28:14,214
earn roughly 20% less than what

4075
03:28:14,214 --> 03:28:14,547
they make in the county of Los

4076
03:28:14,547 --> 03:28:16,547
Angeles.

4077
03:28:18,752 --> 03:28:19,420
Compensation matters because it

4078
03:28:19,420 --> 03:28:20,120
directly impacts the city's

4079
03:28:20,120 --> 03:28:23,120
ability to recruit and retain

4080
03:28:23,157 --> 03:28:23,824
experienced personnel.

4081
03:28:23,824 --> 03:28:24,424
Competitive pay helps us to

4082
03:28:24,424 --> 03:28:25,159
maintain a professional

4083
03:28:25,159 --> 03:28:27,159
workforce, retain institutional

4084
03:28:28,428 --> 03:28:29,290
knowledge and recruit employees

4085
03:28:29,290 --> 03:28:29,563
who reflect the diverse

4086
03:28:29,563 --> 03:28:31,563
community we serve.

4087
03:28:33,934 --> 03:28:34,435
Finally, I want to touch on

4088
03:28:34,435 --> 03:28:35,169
public awareness.

4089
03:28:35,169 --> 03:28:35,802
One of the most important roles

4090
03:28:35,802 --> 03:28:38,138
as a steward is to simply

4091
03:28:38,138 --> 03:28:38,839
educate people about what San

4092
03:28:38,839 --> 03:28:41,239
Diego lifeguards actually do.

4093
03:28:42,876 --> 03:28:43,743
I'm from New Jersey.

4094
03:28:43,743 --> 03:28:44,110
I get a lot of questions about

4095
03:28:44,110 --> 03:28:44,812
what I do.

4096
03:28:44,812 --> 03:28:45,445
I've been called a pool guard.

4097
03:28:45,445 --> 03:28:47,845
My parents don't really

4098
03:28:48,282 --> 03:28:48,716
understand it yet but we're

4099
03:28:48,716 --> 03:28:49,416
getting there.

4100
03:28:49,416 --> 03:28:52,118
We're going to get the figured

4101
03:28:52,118 --> 03:28:52,786
out that I work full time.

4102
03:28:52,786 --> 03:28:53,487
This profession gives people

4103
03:28:53,487 --> 03:28:56,487
the opportunity to serve their

4104
03:28:57,458 --> 03:28:58,191
community, protect lives, raise

4105
03:28:58,191 --> 03:28:58,893
a family here in San Diego and

4106
03:28:58,893 --> 03:28:59,226
dedicate themselves to public

4107
03:28:59,226 --> 03:29:01,226
service.

4108
03:29:02,596 --> 03:29:03,263
Many people still think

4109
03:29:03,263 --> 03:29:03,964
lifeguarding is a temporary

4110
03:29:03,964 --> 03:29:04,664
seasonal work but for many of

4111
03:29:04,664 --> 03:29:07,340
us this is a career in public

4112
03:29:07,340 --> 03:29:07,601
safety and emergency response.

4113
03:29:07,601 --> 03:29:08,302
But doing that becomes

4114
03:29:08,302 --> 03:29:10,302
increasingly difficult Without

4115
03:29:12,500 --> 03:29:12,706
sustainable wages, safe working

4116
03:29:12,706 --> 03:29:15,106
conditions and recognition of

4117
03:29:16,677 --> 03:29:17,111
equal responsibilities are

4118
03:29:17,111 --> 03:29:17,812
members carry.

4119
03:29:17,812 --> 03:29:18,511
I appreciate the support that

4120
03:29:18,511 --> 03:29:21,215
many of you showed toward our

4121
03:29:21,215 --> 03:29:21,915
members in our profession and I

4122
03:29:21,915 --> 03:29:22,583
encourage the city to continue

4123
03:29:22,583 --> 03:29:24,983
breaking down barriers that

4124
03:29:25,519 --> 03:29:26,186
separate lifeguards from other

4125
03:29:26,186 --> 03:29:26,786
public safety professionals

4126
03:29:26,786 --> 03:29:27,488
because ultimately this

4127
03:29:27,488 --> 03:29:30,488
conversation is not only about

4128
03:29:30,623 --> 03:29:31,192
employee retention.

4129
03:29:31,192 --> 03:29:31,925
It's about maintaining

4130
03:29:31,925 --> 03:29:32,593
the level of emergency response

4131
03:29:32,593 --> 03:29:35,593
and beach safety The public

4132
03:29:36,197 --> 03:29:36,797
expects and depends on every

4133
03:29:36,797 --> 03:29:37,464
year City of San Diego

4134
03:29:37,464 --> 03:29:37,765
Lifeguards Save Thousands of

4135
03:29:37,765 --> 03:29:39,765
lives.

4136
03:29:41,435 --> 03:29:42,300
The city should The city should

4137
03:29:42,300 --> 03:29:42,636
continue investing in

4138
03:29:42,636 --> 03:29:43,400
the people that make this

4139
03:29:43,400 --> 03:29:45,400
possible.

4140
03:29:52,346 --> 03:29:52,879
Thank you.

4141
03:29:52,879 --> 03:29:54,879
All right.

4142
03:29:57,984 --> 03:29:58,685
Clark, did any other recognized

4143
03:29:58,685 --> 03:29:59,320
employee organization indicate

4144
03:29:59,320 --> 03:30:02,320
their wish to speak during

4145
03:30:02,523 --> 03:30:03,324
today's presentation?

4146
03:30:03,324 --> 03:30:03,691
>> I did not receive any other

4147
03:30:03,691 --> 03:30:03,991
requests.

4148
03:30:03,991 --> 03:30:05,991
Okay.

4149
03:30:07,428 --> 03:30:08,195
That was just for the Oreos.

4150
03:30:08,195 --> 03:30:08,662
We'll still have time for

4151
03:30:08,662 --> 03:30:09,230
public comment.

4152
03:30:09,230 --> 03:30:12,230
So again, this is an

4153
03:30:12,566 --> 03:30:13,400
information item.

4154
03:30:13,400 --> 03:30:14,135
>> But with that I'll turn to

4155
03:30:14,135 --> 03:30:14,769
my colleagues for any questions

4156
03:30:14,769 --> 03:30:17,671
you might have for either

4157
03:30:17,671 --> 03:30:20,671
the Oreos or to staff.

4158
03:30:22,810 --> 03:30:23,177
And I don't see any body on

4159
03:30:23,177 --> 03:30:23,878
the line.

4160
03:30:23,878 --> 03:30:24,145
>> Council Member Rivera Thank

4161
03:30:24,145 --> 03:30:26,145
you.

4162
03:30:27,414 --> 03:30:28,820
Council PRESIDENT.

4163
03:30:28,820 --> 03:30:30,482
Since you're here both

4164
03:30:44,532 --> 03:30:45,366
the Oreos and coming up.

4165
03:30:45,366 --> 03:30:45,767
>> So first thank you all for

4166
03:30:45,767 --> 03:30:47,669
coming down.

4167
03:30:47,669 --> 03:30:48,536
Thanks for bringing the members

4168
03:30:48,536 --> 03:30:52,136
down And I know that standing

4169
03:30:54,475 --> 03:30:55,176
in front of Sandy in public and

4170
03:30:55,176 --> 03:30:55,476
making these statements isn't

4171
03:30:55,476 --> 03:30:56,100
easy.

4172
03:30:56,100 --> 03:30:56,644
It requires courage.

4173
03:30:56,644 --> 03:30:56,944
I appreciate you all doing

4174
03:30:56,944 --> 03:30:58,944
that.

4175
03:31:01,982 --> 03:31:02,850
>> I think you all mentioned it

4176
03:31:02,850 --> 03:31:07,500
in in certain terms but is it

4177
03:31:07,880 --> 03:31:07,955
as simple as just bringing you

4178
03:31:07,955 --> 03:31:12,393
all up to the point of being on

4179
03:31:12,393 --> 03:31:12,994
a level playing on a level

4180
03:31:12,994 --> 03:31:15,994
playing field with L.A.?

4181
03:31:17,331 --> 03:31:17,799
Is it increasing wages to a

4182
03:31:17,799 --> 03:31:18,499
certain amount?

4183
03:31:18,499 --> 03:31:18,833
I mean you've got us in front

4184
03:31:18,833 --> 03:31:20,833
of you.

4185
03:31:22,170 --> 03:31:22,870
I mean the most explicit terms

4186
03:31:22,870 --> 03:31:23,171
is you're willing to provide

4187
03:31:23,171 --> 03:31:23,871
them.

4188
03:31:23,871 --> 03:31:24,739
I think it's important for us

4189
03:31:24,739 --> 03:31:27,800
to hear how you think we can

4190
03:31:27,800 --> 03:31:29,800
make this better.

4191
03:31:32,546 --> 03:31:33,347
Sure, I would forgive

4192
03:31:33,347 --> 03:31:34,480
the analogy but if we got a

4193
03:31:34,480 --> 03:31:34,682
room full of firefighters here

4194
03:31:34,682 --> 03:31:34,983
so it's like bodybuilding,

4195
03:31:34,983 --> 03:31:36,551
right?

4196
03:31:36,551 --> 03:31:37,252
You don't get buff overnight.

4197
03:31:37,252 --> 03:31:37,752
It's something that takes any

4198
03:31:37,752 --> 03:31:39,752
level of fitness.

4199
03:31:41,856 --> 03:31:42,557
It takes time and we understand

4200
03:31:42,557 --> 03:31:43,223
that we've gotten to the place

4201
03:31:43,223 --> 03:31:46,823
where we're down here and we

4202
03:31:47,950 --> 03:31:47,795
don't anticipate by any stretch

4203
03:31:47,795 --> 03:31:48,430
of the imagination that this

4204
03:31:48,430 --> 03:31:48,730
could be fixed overnight.

4205
03:31:48,730 --> 03:31:49,397
Sure.

4206
03:31:49,397 --> 03:31:52,100
But we have to start digging

4207
03:31:52,100 --> 03:31:52,866
our way out of this and and

4208
03:31:52,866 --> 03:31:53,568
there's a lot of great work

4209
03:31:53,568 --> 03:31:57,720
that's been done by members of

4210
03:31:57,720 --> 03:31:57,672
this council that helped us

4211
03:31:57,672 --> 03:31:58,340
regain some ground over

4212
03:31:58,340 --> 03:31:59,700
the last several contracts.

4213
03:31:59,700 --> 03:32:02,310
But as you can all imagine,

4214
03:32:02,310 --> 03:32:03,110
each one of the other areas in

4215
03:32:03,110 --> 03:32:05,411
different cities they continue

4216
03:32:07,449 --> 03:32:08,383
to also gain.

4217
03:32:08,383 --> 03:32:08,950
So we we jumped up and then

4218
03:32:08,950 --> 03:32:11,319
fell right back down.

4219
03:32:11,319 --> 03:32:11,986
So I would say the first order

4220
03:32:11,986 --> 03:32:12,721
of business is establishing

4221
03:32:12,721 --> 03:32:16,691
some set level of how we can

4222
03:32:16,691 --> 03:32:17,525
keep pace, Right?

4223
03:32:17,525 --> 03:32:18,225
I mean we don't we're not going

4224
03:32:18,225 --> 03:32:21,595
to get into this marathon race

4225
03:32:21,595 --> 03:32:21,896
and try to win it on our first

4226
03:32:21,896 --> 03:32:22,831
shot.

4227
03:32:22,831 --> 03:32:23,632
But by GOD we have to get to a

4228
03:32:23,632 --> 03:32:26,701
point where we can at least

4229
03:32:26,701 --> 03:32:27,135
figure out how we prioritize

4230
03:32:27,135 --> 03:32:29,135
public safety.

4231
03:32:31,873 --> 03:32:32,540
And in that we'll find a way to

4232
03:32:32,540 --> 03:32:33,207
at least keep pace at least

4233
03:32:33,207 --> 03:32:36,207
live up to the compensation

4234
03:32:36,510 --> 03:32:36,811
philosophy to get us to median

4235
03:32:36,811 --> 03:32:37,612
right.

4236
03:32:37,612 --> 03:32:37,913
I would say that's the biggest

4237
03:32:37,913 --> 03:32:38,579
thing.

4238
03:32:38,579 --> 03:32:38,880
So how do we go about doing

4239
03:32:38,880 --> 03:32:40,880
that?

4240
03:32:42,250 --> 03:32:42,684
Well, that's that's a lot of

4241
03:32:42,684 --> 03:32:43,351
conversations.

4242
03:32:43,351 --> 03:32:43,718
It's a lot of very difficult

4243
03:32:43,718 --> 03:32:44,418
decisions.

4244
03:32:44,418 --> 03:32:46,788
But I think that's why all of

4245
03:32:46,788 --> 03:32:47,455
us are here.

4246
03:32:47,455 --> 03:32:47,890
So I hope that answers

4247
03:32:47,890 --> 03:32:48,590
the question.

4248
03:32:48,590 --> 03:32:51,293
But that's at least the a good

4249
03:32:51,293 --> 03:32:51,993
starting point is to really

4250
03:32:51,993 --> 03:32:52,661
identify how we can just get

4251
03:32:52,661 --> 03:32:54,762
ourselves into a system that

4252
03:32:54,762 --> 03:32:55,163
allows us to keep pace.

4253
03:32:55,163 --> 03:32:57,163
Thanks.

4254
03:32:59,967 --> 03:33:00,535
Okay.

4255
03:33:00,535 --> 03:33:00,936
>> Thank you.

4256
03:33:00,936 --> 03:33:01,803
Absolutely.

4257
03:33:01,803 --> 03:33:05,673
I think that is a great place

4258
03:33:05,673 --> 03:33:06,474
to start it.

4259
03:33:06,474 --> 03:33:07,142
It's it's it's absolutely going

4260
03:33:07,142 --> 03:33:07,842
to be one of the things that

4261
03:33:07,842 --> 03:33:10,745
we're dealing with in the city

4262
03:33:10,745 --> 03:33:11,413
of San Diego is dealing with

4263
03:33:11,413 --> 03:33:11,979
the rising cost of living in

4264
03:33:11,979 --> 03:33:12,680
the city of San Diego,

4265
03:33:12,680 --> 03:33:15,680
particularly if we're going to

4266
03:33:15,850 --> 03:33:16,418
continue the recruitment

4267
03:33:16,418 --> 03:33:17,850
program that we have.

4268
03:33:17,850 --> 03:33:17,619
We recruit consistently from

4269
03:33:17,619 --> 03:33:19,619
our seasonal ranks.

4270
03:33:21,489 --> 03:33:22,156
They are guaranteed work from

4271
03:33:22,156 --> 03:33:22,724
essentially Memorial Day to

4272
03:33:22,724 --> 03:33:25,724
Labor Day and it gets

4273
03:33:26,627 --> 03:33:27,329
increasingly more difficult to

4274
03:33:27,329 --> 03:33:28,300
keep those guards engaged and

4275
03:33:28,300 --> 03:33:30,565
bringing them back year after

4276
03:33:30,565 --> 03:33:31,333
year after year if there's

4277
03:33:31,333 --> 03:33:32,000
going to be that nine month

4278
03:33:32,000 --> 03:33:32,634
period where they don't have

4279
03:33:32,634 --> 03:33:35,340
that guaranteed income and

4280
03:33:36,504 --> 03:33:37,372
ensuring that the income is

4281
03:33:37,372 --> 03:33:38,106
going to be worth it and making

4282
03:33:38,106 --> 03:33:38,440
sure that it's able to continue

4283
03:33:38,440 --> 03:33:40,440
living.

4284
03:33:41,576 --> 03:33:42,277
I'd also say on top of that one

4285
03:33:42,277 --> 03:33:42,878
of the biggest issues that we

4286
03:33:42,878 --> 03:33:43,512
deal with has to do with

4287
03:33:43,512 --> 03:33:45,747
the facilities that we're

4288
03:33:45,747 --> 03:33:46,480
dealing with in the city of San

4289
03:33:46,480 --> 03:33:46,749
Diego.

4290
03:33:46,749 --> 03:33:47,383
We as I stated, there's three

4291
03:33:47,383 --> 03:33:49,783
facilities just right off

4292
03:33:50,753 --> 03:33:51,319
the top that make it very, very

4293
03:33:51,319 --> 03:33:53,319
difficult to maintain.

4294
03:33:56,424 --> 03:33:56,778
Recruitment is a along those

4295
03:33:56,778 --> 03:33:57,493
lines.

4296
03:33:57,493 --> 03:33:58,193
But if you go and work North

4297
03:33:58,193 --> 03:34:01,300
Bay and you're sitting in that

4298
03:34:01,300 --> 03:34:01,697
shipping container, there's no

4299
03:34:01,697 --> 03:34:02,640
level of privacy associated

4300
03:34:02,640 --> 03:34:02,698
with that.

4301
03:34:02,698 --> 03:34:03,332
If you're working in Ocean

4302
03:34:03,332 --> 03:34:03,933
Beach and you're there in

4303
03:34:03,933 --> 03:34:06,933
the winter and it starts

4304
03:34:07,350 --> 03:34:07,803
leaking and you're trying to

4305
03:34:07,803 --> 03:34:08,103
figure out how to take care of

4306
03:34:08,103 --> 03:34:08,804
that.

4307
03:34:08,804 --> 03:34:11,640
That also jumps in the way of

4308
03:34:11,640 --> 03:34:12,141
making sure that we're able to

4309
03:34:12,141 --> 03:34:12,741
do our jobs.

4310
03:34:12,741 --> 03:34:13,442
We've all talked about

4311
03:34:13,442 --> 03:34:14,108
the mission beach issue that's

4312
03:34:14,108 --> 03:34:16,477
going on right now and we're

4313
03:34:16,477 --> 03:34:17,246
thankful that we're taking

4314
03:34:17,246 --> 03:34:21,446
the steps to start to try and

4315
03:34:22,251 --> 03:34:23,180
react and fix that problem.

4316
03:34:23,180 --> 03:34:23,719
But this is going to continue

4317
03:34:23,719 --> 03:34:24,190
to happen over the next 20, 30

4318
03:34:24,190 --> 03:34:26,190
years.

4319
03:34:27,255 --> 03:34:28,230
I'm young in my career.

4320
03:34:28,230 --> 03:34:28,324
I'll be here for another 20

4321
03:34:28,324 --> 03:34:29,258
years.

4322
03:34:29,258 --> 03:34:32,560
But we want to make sure that

4323
03:34:32,560 --> 03:34:33,129
we're setting ourselves up to

4324
03:34:33,129 --> 03:34:33,828
take care of the next

4325
03:34:33,828 --> 03:34:34,530
generation and the generation

4326
03:34:34,530 --> 03:34:38,130
after that and make sure that

4327
03:34:38,401 --> 03:34:39,101
we have the state of the art

4328
03:34:39,101 --> 03:34:39,835
facilities that you do see in

4329
03:34:39,835 --> 03:34:40,536
L.A. County and all these other

4330
03:34:40,536 --> 03:34:43,139
agencies that are investing in

4331
03:34:43,139 --> 03:34:43,472
there and they're public

4332
03:34:43,472 --> 03:34:44,506
safety.

4333
03:34:44,506 --> 03:34:48,477
I'd also like to say once again

4334
03:34:48,477 --> 03:34:49,144
lifeguards not being

4335
03:34:49,144 --> 03:34:49,845
represented as public safety

4336
03:34:49,845 --> 03:34:50,545
officials outside of the city

4337
03:34:50,545 --> 03:34:53,545
is not something that directly

4338
03:34:53,548 --> 03:34:54,249
affects the city but it

4339
03:34:54,249 --> 03:34:54,984
absolutely affects us as a

4340
03:34:54,984 --> 03:34:55,718
profession And we hope that you

4341
03:34:55,718 --> 03:34:58,720
guys will be able to support us

4342
03:34:58,720 --> 03:34:59,388
as we start to work on that

4343
03:34:59,388 --> 03:35:00,122
journey of making sure that

4344
03:35:00,122 --> 03:35:00,789
lifeguards across the state and

4345
03:35:00,789 --> 03:35:03,789
across the United States are

4346
03:35:04,293 --> 03:35:04,826
recognized in the public safety

4347
03:35:04,826 --> 03:35:05,261
that they represent.

4348
03:35:05,261 --> 03:35:05,728
>> Thank you.

4349
03:35:05,728 --> 03:35:07,728
Appreciate that.

4350
03:35:08,497 --> 03:35:09,264
And then just one more question

4351
03:35:09,264 --> 03:35:10,132
and I have comments to make but

4352
03:35:10,132 --> 03:35:12,702
I'll just save this part for

4353
03:35:12,702 --> 03:35:13,402
questions.

4354
03:35:13,402 --> 03:35:16,402
The turnover component of this

4355
03:35:18,640 --> 03:35:22,240
what does it mean when your

4356
03:35:23,479 --> 03:35:24,246
your colleagues are essentially

4357
03:35:24,246 --> 03:35:24,946
having to look elsewhere at all

4358
03:35:24,946 --> 03:35:27,346
times for for better

4359
03:35:29,385 --> 03:35:30,253
opportunities?

4360
03:35:30,253 --> 03:35:31,120
I think like most of us can

4361
03:35:31,120 --> 03:35:34,524
speculate as to why that is But

4362
03:35:34,524 --> 03:35:35,257
in like terms that help us

4363
03:35:35,257 --> 03:35:35,958
understand what that looks like

4364
03:35:35,958 --> 03:35:36,259
for you all in your day to day

4365
03:35:36,259 --> 03:35:38,259
jobs.

4366
03:35:39,529 --> 03:35:40,296
What does it mean when folks

4367
03:35:40,296 --> 03:35:43,296
are leaving for other other

4368
03:35:45,234 --> 03:35:45,568
departments for different

4369
03:35:45,568 --> 03:35:45,867
careers?

4370
03:35:45,867 --> 03:35:46,502
Sure.

4371
03:35:46,502 --> 03:35:47,690
No, And that's a that's a

4372
03:35:47,690 --> 03:35:49,690
really great question.

4373
03:35:50,373 --> 03:35:51,730
I'm glad you asked it because

4374
03:35:51,730 --> 03:35:51,541
there's two components to that

4375
03:35:51,541 --> 03:35:53,541
to that answer.

4376
03:35:55,511 --> 03:35:56,450
One, obviously there's a level

4377
03:35:56,450 --> 03:35:56,712
of understanding.

4378
03:35:56,712 --> 03:35:57,446
These people have families.

4379
03:35:57,446 --> 03:36:01,150
They have lives And this is one

4380
03:36:01,150 --> 03:36:01,818
of the most beautiful, most

4381
03:36:01,818 --> 03:36:02,151
expensive places to live in

4382
03:36:02,151 --> 03:36:04,151
America.

4383
03:36:06,122 --> 03:36:06,889
So it is a very strong

4384
03:36:06,889 --> 03:36:07,490
challenge that comes with it a

4385
03:36:07,490 --> 03:36:09,490
sense of understanding.

4386
03:36:11,961 --> 03:36:12,662
That said though, I understand

4387
03:36:12,662 --> 03:36:16,262
that outside of combat this is

4388
03:36:17,967 --> 03:36:18,701
you form bonds with people by

4389
03:36:18,701 --> 03:36:19,502
virtue of what we're exposed to

4390
03:36:19,502 --> 03:36:22,639
and what we have to carry each

4391
03:36:22,639 --> 03:36:23,339
other through.

4392
03:36:23,339 --> 03:36:24,400
I mean one of the biggest

4393
03:36:24,400 --> 03:36:27,400
killers in our profession has

4394
03:36:28,181 --> 03:36:29,450
just become suicide And I can

4395
03:36:29,450 --> 03:36:32,645
only represent to you so much

4396
03:36:33,683 --> 03:36:34,149
in in words how important and

4397
03:36:34,149 --> 03:36:34,884
valuable some of

4398
03:36:34,884 --> 03:36:35,585
the conversations that I've had

4399
03:36:35,585 --> 03:36:39,355
in the kitchen table in a fire

4400
03:36:39,355 --> 03:36:40,323
station or and to see people

4401
03:36:40,323 --> 03:36:44,594
that you see as a brother or a

4402
03:36:44,594 --> 03:36:45,128
sister make that very difficult

4403
03:36:45,128 --> 03:36:45,528
decision to leave is

4404
03:36:45,528 --> 03:36:46,195
devastating.

4405
03:36:46,195 --> 03:36:46,729
These are people who are in

4406
03:36:46,729 --> 03:36:48,729
your wedding party.

4407
03:36:50,265 --> 03:36:50,767
These are people who your kids

4408
03:36:50,767 --> 03:36:51,534
call Uncle Dante.

4409
03:36:51,534 --> 03:36:55,134
I mean it's just the human

4410
03:36:55,238 --> 03:36:55,972
factor is devastating And

4411
03:36:55,972 --> 03:36:58,972
the financial impacts as you're

4412
03:37:01,110 --> 03:37:01,489
well aware, they are what they

4413
03:37:01,489 --> 03:37:02,780
are.

4414
03:37:02,780 --> 03:37:02,712
They're incredibly challenging

4415
03:37:02,712 --> 03:37:05,112
especially in this region.

4416
03:37:05,715 --> 03:37:06,415
So to answer your question, I

4417
03:37:06,415 --> 03:37:07,116
mean there's a whole gamut of

4418
03:37:07,116 --> 03:37:09,516
different emotions and things

4419
03:37:11,521 --> 03:37:11,955
that you have to deal with and

4420
03:37:11,955 --> 03:37:12,689
people leave.

4421
03:37:12,689 --> 03:37:13,389
And obviously the elephant in

4422
03:37:13,389 --> 03:37:16,893
the room, the talent that you

4423
03:37:16,893 --> 03:37:17,193
lose, the experience that you

4424
03:37:17,193 --> 03:37:17,794
lose.

4425
03:37:17,794 --> 03:37:18,628
This is life and death.

4426
03:37:18,628 --> 03:37:22,228
What we do not to be

4427
03:37:22,332 --> 03:37:23,330
the hyperbole guy but my

4428
03:37:23,330 --> 03:37:23,466
goodness people's lives depend

4429
03:37:23,466 --> 03:37:25,866
on what we do.

4430
03:37:27,270 --> 03:37:27,971
They depend on the fact that

4431
03:37:27,971 --> 03:37:28,638
whoever showing up is

4432
03:37:28,638 --> 03:37:29,305
experienced and obviously as

4433
03:37:29,305 --> 03:37:31,705
Derek highlighted, these are

4434
03:37:32,943 --> 03:37:33,643
really great people but they're

4435
03:37:33,643 --> 03:37:34,377
brand new who aren't bringing

4436
03:37:34,377 --> 03:37:36,777
any experience and experiences.

4437
03:37:38,782 --> 03:37:39,515
You can only get it one way and

4438
03:37:39,515 --> 03:37:40,149
we're not attracting we're not

4439
03:37:40,149 --> 03:37:40,717
attractive enough to coax

4440
03:37:40,717 --> 03:37:41,351
people away from other

4441
03:37:41,351 --> 03:37:41,751
departments who have that

4442
03:37:41,751 --> 03:37:43,751
experience.

4443
03:37:45,550 --> 03:37:45,755
So I mean we're talking

4444
03:37:45,755 --> 03:37:46,356
operational, we're talking on

4445
03:37:46,356 --> 03:37:47,900
an individual level and

4446
03:37:47,900 --> 03:37:50,900
obviously a financial aspect of

4447
03:37:53,129 --> 03:37:54,970
it are very challenging.

4448
03:37:54,970 --> 03:37:57,697
>> As I said, I moved to

4449
03:37:59,469 --> 03:38:03,690
the city of San Diego 11 years

4450
03:38:04,700 --> 03:38:04,875
ago as a seasonal lifeguard one

4451
03:38:04,875 --> 03:38:05,675
when I first moved to the city.

4452
03:38:05,675 --> 03:38:09,275
I paid $600 a month in rent.

4453
03:38:09,345 --> 03:38:09,980
I shared it with an employee

4454
03:38:09,980 --> 03:38:10,681
and the compensation for

4455
03:38:10,681 --> 03:38:13,810
seasonal lifeguards was enough

4456
03:38:15,184 --> 03:38:15,885
to for me to make that work.

4457
03:38:15,885 --> 03:38:16,620
We're quickly moving towards a

4458
03:38:16,620 --> 03:38:20,220
time where people are not going

4459
03:38:20,490 --> 03:38:21,124
to be able to make ends meet

4460
03:38:21,124 --> 03:38:24,724
just based off of the pay

4461
03:38:26,950 --> 03:38:26,563
that's associated with

4462
03:38:26,563 --> 03:38:27,297
lifeguard ones.

4463
03:38:27,297 --> 03:38:30,297
And obviously as the gentleman

4464
03:38:30,667 --> 03:38:31,535
from Local 145 and people that

4465
03:38:31,535 --> 03:38:32,268
I work with on a day to day

4466
03:38:32,268 --> 03:38:35,868
basis and people that I respect

4467
03:38:36,730 --> 03:38:36,773
admire just said when we lose

4468
03:38:36,773 --> 03:38:37,407
these people it's not just one

4469
03:38:37,407 --> 03:38:39,807
person leaves and another

4470
03:38:41,311 --> 03:38:42,179
person steps into their place.

4471
03:38:42,179 --> 03:38:42,880
We're now having to replace a

4472
03:38:42,880 --> 03:38:46,480
knowledge gap, a skill gap and

4473
03:38:47,350 --> 03:38:48,118
then we have to train those

4474
03:38:48,118 --> 03:38:48,819
people up and we're happy to

4475
03:38:48,819 --> 03:38:49,119
bring in new people and train

4476
03:38:49,119 --> 03:38:49,719
that.

4477
03:38:49,719 --> 03:38:50,386
But we also want to keep

4478
03:38:50,386 --> 03:38:52,386
the institutional knowledge

4479
03:38:53,523 --> 03:38:54,324
that's associated with the city

4480
03:38:54,324 --> 03:38:54,858
of San Diego lifeguards as much

4481
03:38:54,858 --> 03:38:56,794
as humanly possible.

4482
03:38:56,794 --> 03:38:57,528
We're seeing significant

4483
03:38:57,528 --> 03:38:57,827
turnover at the lifeguard two

4484
03:38:57,827 --> 03:38:58,529
ranks.

4485
03:38:58,529 --> 03:38:59,228
We're very young agency right

4486
03:38:59,228 --> 03:39:02,228
now because we're starting to

4487
03:39:02,633 --> 03:39:03,300
see that turnover kind of start

4488
03:39:03,300 --> 03:39:03,934
to take place And the people

4489
03:39:03,934 --> 03:39:04,601
that we're bringing in are

4490
03:39:04,601 --> 03:39:07,601
very, very, very skilled and

4491
03:39:09,390 --> 03:39:09,673
very high executer But there is

4492
03:39:09,673 --> 03:39:10,306
something to be said about

4493
03:39:10,306 --> 03:39:12,306
losing that institutional

4494
03:39:14,110 --> 03:39:14,845
knowledge as the city continues

4495
03:39:14,845 --> 03:39:15,512
to get more and more expensive.

4496
03:39:15,512 --> 03:39:16,800
People are going to have to

4497
03:39:16,800 --> 03:39:16,814
make tough decisions.

4498
03:39:16,814 --> 03:39:19,814
We've had we've lost lifeguards

4499
03:39:19,984 --> 03:39:20,751
in the last couple of years who

4500
03:39:20,751 --> 03:39:21,418
just can't afford to make ends

4501
03:39:21,418 --> 03:39:24,418
meet at the seasonal ranks.

4502
03:39:25,989 --> 03:39:26,657
We have people that are very,

4503
03:39:26,657 --> 03:39:27,324
very smart, very skilled but

4504
03:39:27,324 --> 03:39:29,724
they've made the realization

4505
03:39:31,895 --> 03:39:32,596
that lifeguarding they can't do

4506
03:39:32,596 --> 03:39:33,197
the six years as a seasonal

4507
03:39:33,197 --> 03:39:33,831
lifeguard in order that

4508
03:39:33,831 --> 03:39:34,431
the time that it takes to

4509
03:39:34,431 --> 03:39:38,310
promote and we do end up

4510
03:39:38,502 --> 03:39:39,169
thankfully sending a lot of our

4511
03:39:39,169 --> 03:39:39,837
lifeguards over to the fire

4512
03:39:39,837 --> 03:39:40,570
department and working with

4513
03:39:40,570 --> 03:39:44,740
Local 145 and we're happy to be

4514
03:39:44,740 --> 03:39:44,575
able to support those guys that

4515
03:39:44,575 --> 03:39:45,342
end up doing that.

4516
03:39:45,342 --> 03:39:46,760
But we also need to make sure

4517
03:39:46,760 --> 03:39:49,760
that we're supporting our ranks

4518
03:39:49,814 --> 03:39:50,381
as we have pretty frequent

4519
03:39:50,381 --> 03:39:51,147
turnover right now.

4520
03:39:51,147 --> 03:39:51,849
I think in the next five years

4521
03:39:51,849 --> 03:39:54,249
we're losing 25 lifeguards So

4522
03:39:55,919 --> 03:39:56,687
that does take a while for us

4523
03:39:56,687 --> 03:39:57,421
to train them up, get them to

4524
03:39:57,421 --> 03:39:58,122
the position where they're able

4525
03:39:58,122 --> 03:39:58,489
to move into and replace that

4526
03:39:58,489 --> 03:40:00,489
knowledge.

4527
03:40:02,225 --> 03:40:02,693
So that would be it.

4528
03:40:02,693 --> 03:40:03,393
>> Thank you.

4529
03:40:03,393 --> 03:40:04,610
I appreciate those responses.

4530
03:40:04,610 --> 03:40:07,264
Like I said, I have got some

4531
03:40:07,264 --> 03:40:07,831
more comments I want to respect

4532
03:40:07,831 --> 03:40:08,399
the process that that

4533
03:40:08,399 --> 03:40:09,660
the PRESIDENT Set up.

4534
03:40:09,660 --> 03:40:09,333
It's an unacceptable status

4535
03:40:09,333 --> 03:40:11,333
quo.

4536
03:40:12,569 --> 03:40:13,504
I think that's clear.

4537
03:40:13,504 --> 03:40:14,404
And the one thing I do want to

4538
03:40:14,404 --> 03:40:18,542
say is that thank you to both

4539
03:40:18,542 --> 03:40:19,276
both unions for showing up to

4540
03:40:19,276 --> 03:40:19,944
support revenue when we've when

4541
03:40:19,944 --> 03:40:22,944
we made those pushes because

4542
03:40:25,215 --> 03:40:25,949
growing the pie or the cake is

4543
03:40:25,949 --> 03:40:26,950
an important step in getting to

4544
03:40:26,950 --> 03:40:31,289
where we want to go And I know

4545
03:40:31,289 --> 03:40:31,755
that you all have done that on

4546
03:40:31,755 --> 03:40:32,456
a regular basis.

4547
03:40:32,456 --> 03:40:32,723
>> So I just want to say thank

4548
03:40:32,723 --> 03:40:33,124
you.

4549
03:40:33,124 --> 03:40:33,491
Thanks guys.

4550
03:40:33,491 --> 03:40:33,858
President.

4551
03:40:33,858 --> 03:40:35,858
All right.

4552
03:40:36,894 --> 03:40:37,227
Thank you, Councilmember de la

4553
03:40:37,227 --> 03:40:37,828
Rivera.

4554
03:40:37,828 --> 03:40:38,563
We'll go next to council

4555
03:40:38,563 --> 03:40:41,999
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Thank you

4556
03:40:41,999 --> 03:40:42,600
Council PRESIDENT And thank you

4557
03:40:42,600 --> 03:40:43,266
all for showing up today

4558
03:40:43,266 --> 03:40:43,968
especially being that I'm in

4559
03:40:43,968 --> 03:40:46,968
District six we borders around

4560
03:40:48,272 --> 03:40:49,390
Valley with the council

4561
03:40:49,390 --> 03:40:49,740
PRESIDENT And so thank you to

4562
03:40:49,740 --> 03:40:50,441
all the 45 members who are out

4563
03:40:50,441 --> 03:40:52,841
there today actually fighting

4564
03:40:54,278 --> 03:40:55,112
that fire currently.

4565
03:40:55,112 --> 03:40:55,813
I think what kills them are

4566
03:40:55,813 --> 03:40:58,813
really Rivera asked what was

4567
03:41:00,350 --> 03:41:01,180
important and I really

4568
03:41:01,180 --> 03:41:01,719
appreciate your very honest

4569
03:41:01,719 --> 03:41:02,453
answer to that because I think

4570
03:41:02,453 --> 03:41:05,490
that is the struggle that we as

4571
03:41:05,490 --> 03:41:06,156
a city are continuing to have

4572
03:41:06,156 --> 03:41:06,790
in terms of not just talking

4573
03:41:06,790 --> 03:41:07,492
amongst ourselves but also

4574
03:41:07,492 --> 03:41:11,920
talking to the public which is

4575
03:41:11,228 --> 03:41:11,929
that the things that we care

4576
03:41:11,929 --> 03:41:12,563
about in the city and we hear

4577
03:41:12,563 --> 03:41:13,197
from business all the time

4578
03:41:13,197 --> 03:41:15,597
about public safety, fire

4579
03:41:17,735 --> 03:41:18,435
management being important

4580
03:41:18,435 --> 03:41:19,690
brush management be important.

4581
03:41:19,690 --> 03:41:21,469
These things don't happen

4582
03:41:23,340 --> 03:41:24,750
without us choosing to fund it

4583
03:41:24,750 --> 03:41:24,609
and to secure the resources

4584
03:41:24,609 --> 03:41:25,309
necessary to do so.

4585
03:41:25,309 --> 03:41:28,309
And you all watched how

4586
03:41:29,746 --> 03:41:30,281
difficult those discussions can

4587
03:41:30,281 --> 03:41:31,115
be with the public.

4588
03:41:31,115 --> 03:41:35,820
I think we have a lot of work

4589
03:41:35,820 --> 03:41:36,487
to do as a city not just to try

4590
03:41:36,487 --> 03:41:37,187
to figure out how we align

4591
03:41:37,187 --> 03:41:38,220
greater resources but we've a

4592
03:41:38,220 --> 03:41:41,225
lot of work to do to earn trust

4593
03:41:41,225 --> 03:41:41,926
with constituents and voters

4594
03:41:41,926 --> 03:41:42,527
the public as a whole to be

4595
03:41:42,527 --> 03:41:44,927
willing to invest in

4596
03:41:46,865 --> 03:41:47,532
the services that we're telling

4597
03:41:47,532 --> 03:41:47,899
them we desperately need in

4598
03:41:47,899 --> 03:41:48,600
the city.

4599
03:41:48,600 --> 03:41:52,200
And so when you mentioned that

4600
03:41:52,970 --> 03:41:53,638
this isn't just some dream that

4601
03:41:53,638 --> 03:41:54,205
next year we'll snap our

4602
03:41:54,205 --> 03:41:54,872
fingers and we'll hit

4603
03:41:54,872 --> 03:41:58,472
the median that we have all

4604
03:41:58,610 --> 03:41:59,210
said we would in terms of our

4605
03:41:59,210 --> 03:41:59,844
compensation philosophy.

4606
03:41:59,844 --> 03:42:00,478
But it's something that we

4607
03:42:00,478 --> 03:42:03,478
actually have to show that

4608
03:42:05,316 --> 03:42:05,949
we're working towards and

4609
03:42:05,949 --> 03:42:06,651
that's something I'm very

4610
03:42:06,651 --> 03:42:07,285
challenged with in the city is

4611
03:42:07,285 --> 03:42:10,154
as you are all expressing

4612
03:42:10,154 --> 03:42:10,856
today, I think we share

4613
03:42:10,856 --> 03:42:11,556
the same frustrations which is

4614
03:42:11,556 --> 03:42:12,323
we don't have a strategy right

4615
03:42:12,323 --> 03:42:16,523
now of how we're going to get

4616
03:42:16,827 --> 03:42:17,595
there and I totally get it.

4617
03:42:17,595 --> 03:42:18,196
I understand why either of your

4618
03:42:18,196 --> 03:42:18,796
members would wake up in

4619
03:42:18,796 --> 03:42:21,796
the morning and say well

4620
03:42:23,134 --> 03:42:23,834
there's no hope and timeline

4621
03:42:23,834 --> 03:42:24,535
and expectation of the efforts

4622
03:42:24,535 --> 03:42:24,871
that are going to produce some

4623
03:42:24,871 --> 03:42:25,503
change.

4624
03:42:25,503 --> 03:42:25,837
How do we know where we're

4625
03:42:25,837 --> 03:42:27,837
headed?

4626
03:42:29,400 --> 03:42:29,774
So I think that's what's

4627
03:42:29,774 --> 03:42:30,441
important moving forward is how

4628
03:42:30,441 --> 03:42:34,410
we work together as a city.

4629
03:42:34,746 --> 03:42:35,313
Work with each of you for

4630
03:42:35,313 --> 03:42:36,470
members but also work

4631
03:42:36,470 --> 03:42:39,470
collectively with the public to

4632
03:42:40,852 --> 03:42:41,519
try to earn that trust to get

4633
03:42:41,519 --> 03:42:42,220
some strategy moving forward

4634
03:42:42,220 --> 03:42:42,786
and how we're going to achieve

4635
03:42:42,786 --> 03:42:45,186
the resources that are

4636
03:42:47,625 --> 03:42:48,260
necessary to fund not just

4637
03:42:48,260 --> 03:42:48,894
public safety but tomorrow

4638
03:42:48,894 --> 03:42:51,294
we're getting arguing over

4639
03:42:53,465 --> 03:42:54,165
libraries and parks and we had

4640
03:42:54,165 --> 03:42:54,800
a whole discussion of arts and

4641
03:42:54,800 --> 03:42:55,534
culture and whether that's

4642
03:42:55,534 --> 03:42:58,436
important to city and all these

4643
03:42:58,436 --> 03:42:59,237
things continue to be lacking

4644
03:42:59,237 --> 03:42:59,905
And if we don't make a

4645
03:42:59,905 --> 03:43:00,539
concerted effort to actually

4646
03:43:00,539 --> 03:43:00,871
turn that around it won't

4647
03:43:00,871 --> 03:43:02,871
change.

4648
03:43:04,642 --> 03:43:05,276
I'm pretty sure today and

4649
03:43:05,276 --> 03:43:05,977
tomorrow we're going to be

4650
03:43:05,977 --> 03:43:06,611
hearing commentary from folks

4651
03:43:06,611 --> 03:43:10,211
who tell us that the city

4652
03:43:10,282 --> 03:43:10,982
should simply be tightening its

4653
03:43:10,982 --> 03:43:11,683
belt, that we should be living

4654
03:43:11,683 --> 03:43:12,384
within the means that we have

4655
03:43:12,384 --> 03:43:15,384
spending within the means that

4656
03:43:17,255 --> 03:43:17,923
we have We're spending within

4657
03:43:17,923 --> 03:43:18,590
the means that we have means

4658
03:43:18,590 --> 03:43:19,257
leaving you all at the same

4659
03:43:19,257 --> 03:43:22,257
level of funding that we've

4660
03:43:22,528 --> 03:43:22,861
left you all that year after

4661
03:43:22,861 --> 03:43:23,528
year.

4662
03:43:23,528 --> 03:43:24,228
It means watching you fall

4663
03:43:24,228 --> 03:43:27,228
further behind year after year

4664
03:43:28,266 --> 03:43:29,340
compared to your your parallels

4665
03:43:29,340 --> 03:43:29,735
not even in the city of Los

4666
03:43:29,735 --> 03:43:30,435
Angeles but I'm going to guess

4667
03:43:30,435 --> 03:43:30,969
even within this region alone

4668
03:43:30,969 --> 03:43:32,969
that's a challenge.

4669
03:43:35,173 --> 03:43:35,907
So I don't think we're in a

4670
03:43:35,907 --> 03:43:36,675
position where we can just live

4671
03:43:36,675 --> 03:43:40,275
by our means, just watch our

4672
03:43:40,845 --> 03:43:41,512
spending because if that's all

4673
03:43:41,512 --> 03:43:42,214
we're going to do, we're not

4674
03:43:42,214 --> 03:43:42,480
going to get where we need to

4675
03:43:42,480 --> 03:43:43,114
be.

4676
03:43:43,114 --> 03:43:43,782
I'm certainly committed to

4677
03:43:43,782 --> 03:43:47,185
figuring out how we can work

4678
03:43:47,185 --> 03:43:47,485
together to to chart a better

4679
03:43:47,485 --> 03:43:48,219
path.

4680
03:43:48,219 --> 03:43:48,587
I hope everyone else here feels

4681
03:43:48,587 --> 03:43:48,954
the same.

4682
03:43:48,954 --> 03:43:50,954
Thank you.

4683
03:43:53,759 --> 03:43:54,159
All right.

4684
03:43:54,159 --> 03:43:54,792
Thank you.

4685
03:43:54,792 --> 03:43:55,494
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem.

4686
03:43:55,494 --> 03:43:55,961
We'll go next to Councilmember

4687
03:43:55,961 --> 03:43:56,328
Vaughn Wolpert.

4688
03:43:56,328 --> 03:43:58,328
Thank you.

4689
03:43:59,531 --> 03:44:00,980
Council PRESIDENT So we're

4690
03:44:00,980 --> 03:44:00,799
doing comment now than

4691
03:44:00,799 --> 03:44:01,500
the public comments and we can

4692
03:44:01,500 --> 03:44:02,201
comment again thank you I'm so

4693
03:44:02,201 --> 03:44:04,236
I was confused at the process

4694
03:44:04,236 --> 03:44:05,300
so again thank you for being

4695
03:44:05,300 --> 03:44:08,307
here I appreciate all of you

4696
03:44:08,307 --> 03:44:09,174
very much.

4697
03:44:09,174 --> 03:44:09,875
And first of all one question

4698
03:44:09,875 --> 03:44:10,475
I've always viewed lifeguards

4699
03:44:10,475 --> 03:44:13,475
as part of public safety

4700
03:44:15,747 --> 03:44:16,448
through time and they're not Is

4701
03:44:16,448 --> 03:44:17,148
there a legal term that would

4702
03:44:17,148 --> 03:44:17,583
need to change within the city

4703
03:44:17,583 --> 03:44:19,583
of San Diego?

4704
03:44:20,452 --> 03:44:20,785
>> We are recognized as public

4705
03:44:20,785 --> 03:44:21,453
safety.

4706
03:44:21,453 --> 03:44:22,540
It's outside of the city in

4707
03:44:22,540 --> 03:44:25,540
the United States and at

4708
03:44:26,910 --> 03:44:26,758
the state level they're not

4709
03:44:26,758 --> 03:44:27,392
recognized as public safety

4710
03:44:27,392 --> 03:44:27,792
officers for public first

4711
03:44:27,792 --> 03:44:29,792
responders.

4712
03:44:31,897 --> 03:44:32,464
There's no legal term that

4713
03:44:32,464 --> 03:44:33,310
represents us as first

4714
03:44:33,310 --> 03:44:35,310
responders even though

4715
03:44:36,234 --> 03:44:36,969
frequently we find ourselves

4716
03:44:36,969 --> 03:44:37,503
being the first person on scene

4717
03:44:37,503 --> 03:44:38,304
for a lot of calls.

4718
03:44:38,304 --> 03:44:39,400
>> Okay, I'd be happy to write

4719
03:44:39,400 --> 03:44:41,404
letters to whomever in

4720
03:44:42,808 --> 03:44:43,508
the state or federal government

4721
03:44:43,508 --> 03:44:44,430
to know that because you work

4722
03:44:44,430 --> 03:44:44,743
alongside all of our

4723
03:44:44,743 --> 03:44:47,143
professional and saving lives

4724
03:44:48,146 --> 03:44:51,746
and I appreciate what you do

4725
03:44:52,317 --> 03:44:53,118
and the on behalf of course you

4726
03:44:53,118 --> 03:44:53,986
are Second I Mark you're right

4727
03:44:53,986 --> 03:44:57,586
we can't get continue to get

4728
03:44:59,825 --> 03:45:00,525
into a rotating cycle of we

4729
03:45:00,525 --> 03:45:01,226
raise enough compensation that

4730
03:45:01,226 --> 03:45:04,826
we're not the bottom but then

4731
03:45:05,998 --> 03:45:06,599
we get to the bottom again

4732
03:45:06,599 --> 03:45:07,266
become a training ground

4733
03:45:07,266 --> 03:45:07,800
because it is more expensive

4734
03:45:07,800 --> 03:45:08,400
for us to train new

4735
03:45:08,400 --> 03:45:10,400
firefighters, give them

4736
03:45:11,504 --> 03:45:12,104
the expertise they need and

4737
03:45:12,104 --> 03:45:12,838
then they leave And that

4738
03:45:12,838 --> 03:45:13,539
happens over and over and over.

4739
03:45:13,539 --> 03:45:17,739
And I remember a few years ago

4740
03:45:18,100 --> 03:45:18,711
I was fighting hard to just

4741
03:45:18,711 --> 03:45:19,378
increase the compensation for

4742
03:45:19,378 --> 03:45:20,450
our wildfire helicopter team

4743
03:45:20,450 --> 03:45:20,712
because what's the point in

4744
03:45:20,712 --> 03:45:23,683
buying the helicopters if we

4745
03:45:23,683 --> 03:45:24,250
don't have the staff to

4746
03:45:24,250 --> 03:45:24,883
actually get them off

4747
03:45:24,883 --> 03:45:25,518
the ground and get a crew

4748
03:45:25,518 --> 03:45:27,918
inside to actually execute

4749
03:45:30,489 --> 03:45:30,990
rescues and get the water to

4750
03:45:30,990 --> 03:45:31,790
where we need it.

4751
03:45:31,790 --> 03:45:32,491
So I'm glad that we did And

4752
03:45:32,491 --> 03:45:33,659
it's showing they're probably

4753
03:45:33,659 --> 03:45:34,426
out there right now actually

4754
03:45:34,426 --> 03:45:35,161
saving us in one of Valley.

4755
03:45:35,161 --> 03:45:35,428
But that worries me quite a bit

4756
03:45:35,428 --> 03:45:36,128
too.

4757
03:45:36,128 --> 03:45:36,828
We've already slipped down to

4758
03:45:36,828 --> 03:45:39,828
the bottom of the compensation

4759
03:45:40,310 --> 03:45:40,700
study.

4760
03:45:40,700 --> 03:45:41,367
I'm also quite worried about

4761
03:45:41,367 --> 03:45:44,967
the fact that we continue to

4762
03:45:45,638 --> 03:45:46,204
take money from the ems fund

4763
03:45:46,204 --> 03:45:49,204
out of the fire rescue

4764
03:45:52,545 --> 03:45:53,345
department and this was set up

4765
03:45:53,345 --> 03:45:54,130
so that we could actually have

4766
03:45:54,130 --> 03:45:54,713
our own in-house, you know,

4767
03:45:54,713 --> 03:45:55,347
paramedic training school and

4768
03:45:55,347 --> 03:45:56,480
get people trained out to

4769
03:45:56,480 --> 03:45:58,840
the extent of what you need a

4770
03:45:58,840 --> 03:45:58,484
paramedic and stay within our

4771
03:45:58,484 --> 03:46:00,484
department.

4772
03:46:03,755 --> 03:46:04,556
I'll have to go outside and I'm

4773
03:46:04,556 --> 03:46:05,224
I'm worried that we're going to

4774
03:46:05,224 --> 03:46:05,958
continue to do this And so I

4775
03:46:05,958 --> 03:46:06,692
think we need to start fighting

4776
03:46:06,692 --> 03:46:09,862
back and saying no because this

4777
03:46:09,862 --> 03:46:10,563
is revenue that you are working

4778
03:46:10,563 --> 03:46:11,229
hard to bring to the city that

4779
03:46:11,229 --> 03:46:11,630
should be used for the fire

4780
03:46:11,630 --> 03:46:12,365
department.

4781
03:46:12,365 --> 03:46:15,965
And I know we're thinking about

4782
03:46:17,370 --> 03:46:18,137
a different model of how we

4783
03:46:18,137 --> 03:46:18,837
deploy our bill say all of that

4784
03:46:18,837 --> 03:46:19,438
And if we continue to do that

4785
03:46:19,438 --> 03:46:21,941
we MAY recruit and train

4786
03:46:21,941 --> 03:46:22,642
the people we're going to be in

4787
03:46:22,642 --> 03:46:23,900
those ambulances might be city

4788
03:46:23,900 --> 03:46:23,709
employees.

4789
03:46:23,709 --> 03:46:27,880
So they also need to know that

4790
03:46:27,880 --> 03:46:28,747
they can actually have a career

4791
03:46:28,747 --> 03:46:29,448
here in San Diego and not be

4792
03:46:29,448 --> 03:46:30,480
taken away by higher salaries

4793
03:46:30,480 --> 03:46:32,480
in other jurisdictions.

4794
03:46:34,953 --> 03:46:35,555
Can I ask right now in terms of

4795
03:46:35,555 --> 03:46:36,155
what we haven't finished

4796
03:46:36,155 --> 03:46:36,889
negotiating the current

4797
03:46:36,889 --> 03:46:40,930
contract for the days I know we

4798
03:46:40,930 --> 03:46:40,793
are in a budget deficit.

4799
03:46:40,793 --> 03:46:41,327
Everybody is struggling right

4800
03:46:41,327 --> 03:46:42,610
now because our city

4801
03:46:42,610 --> 03:46:45,610
unfortunately did not pass that

4802
03:46:45,597 --> 03:46:46,365
The sales tax increase Honestly

4803
03:46:46,365 --> 03:46:47,330
if we had one that was just

4804
03:46:47,330 --> 03:46:47,700
focused on public safety and

4805
03:46:47,700 --> 03:46:50,100
infrastructure I'll bet you

4806
03:46:50,770 --> 03:46:51,537
that would pass.

4807
03:46:51,537 --> 03:46:52,304
Just a thought out there.

4808
03:46:52,304 --> 03:46:54,574
But so I'm wondering what can

4809
03:46:54,574 --> 03:46:59,374
we do this year even to try and

4810
03:47:01,547 --> 03:47:04,547
help you know, have any

4811
03:47:06,185 --> 03:47:06,886
treasure maps to you know,

4812
03:47:06,886 --> 03:47:09,286
honestly there's been several

4813
03:47:12,580 --> 03:47:12,459
attempts to identify revenue

4814
03:47:12,459 --> 03:47:13,226
generation.

4815
03:47:13,226 --> 03:47:15,626
Councilmember Rivera alluded to

4816
03:47:18,497 --> 03:47:19,199
that We are in a definite

4817
03:47:19,199 --> 03:47:21,599
challenging position in these

4818
03:47:24,270 --> 03:47:25,138
economic times.

4819
03:47:25,138 --> 03:47:25,905
It is a very easy thing for me

4820
03:47:25,905 --> 03:47:26,639
to stand here and say on behalf

4821
03:47:26,639 --> 03:47:29,542
of my membership that this is a

4822
03:47:29,542 --> 03:47:30,243
priority issue because

4823
03:47:30,243 --> 03:47:30,844
obviously I'm not saddled with

4824
03:47:30,844 --> 03:47:31,478
running the entire city.

4825
03:47:31,478 --> 03:47:33,878
I'm simply representing my

4826
03:47:35,648 --> 03:47:36,348
membership.

4827
03:47:36,348 --> 03:47:38,748
I obviously I'm biased.

4828
03:47:41,200 --> 03:47:41,621
I know that there's definitely

4829
03:47:41,621 --> 03:47:42,155
different services that

4830
03:47:42,155 --> 03:47:42,788
everybody provides.

4831
03:47:42,788 --> 03:47:46,988
I think a lot of them are

4832
03:47:47,627 --> 03:47:48,461
wonderful and very important.

4833
03:47:48,461 --> 03:47:49,950
I'm again biased when it comes

4834
03:47:49,950 --> 03:47:52,950
to fire rescue because of

4835
03:47:52,899 --> 03:47:53,533
the by virtue of what we do So

4836
03:47:53,533 --> 03:47:54,200
short of having further

4837
03:47:54,200 --> 03:47:57,200
discussions about how we do

4838
03:47:59,573 --> 03:48:00,240
generate more interview revenue

4839
03:48:00,240 --> 03:48:00,941
potential with at least some

4840
03:48:00,941 --> 03:48:03,341
future initiatives and again

4841
03:48:05,478 --> 03:48:06,413
doors are open.

4842
03:48:06,413 --> 03:48:07,800
We're going to have a sit down

4843
03:48:07,800 --> 03:48:07,781
and have a discussion about

4844
03:48:07,781 --> 03:48:11,381
those kinds of outside the box

4845
03:48:11,918 --> 03:48:12,652
ideas because there is no

4846
03:48:12,652 --> 03:48:13,320
length that we won't go to is

4847
03:48:13,320 --> 03:48:16,320
local 145 and service of our

4848
03:48:16,924 --> 03:48:17,591
members and trying to right

4849
03:48:17,591 --> 03:48:18,291
the wrongs of three decades.

4850
03:48:18,291 --> 03:48:21,891
So yeah we're very open to

4851
03:48:22,828 --> 03:48:23,530
conversations and and I think

4852
03:48:23,530 --> 03:48:23,830
taking some of this stuff for

4853
03:48:23,830 --> 03:48:24,230
sure.

4854
03:48:24,230 --> 03:48:24,597
Okay Got it.

4855
03:48:24,597 --> 03:48:26,597
Thank you.

4856
03:48:28,702 --> 03:48:29,402
And my next question is all

4857
03:48:29,402 --> 03:48:30,103
through our infrastructure and

4858
03:48:30,103 --> 03:48:30,703
I know some of the facilities

4859
03:48:30,703 --> 03:48:33,703
are operating out of are

4860
03:48:35,475 --> 03:48:36,343
completely substandard.

4861
03:48:36,343 --> 03:48:37,430
I mean there's a whole bit

4862
03:48:37,430 --> 03:48:37,744
attendant and one of the fire

4863
03:48:37,744 --> 03:48:41,248
stations is now a giant canvas

4864
03:48:41,248 --> 03:48:41,948
Kevlar tent but need to stop.

4865
03:48:41,948 --> 03:48:42,582
And also with the lifeguards

4866
03:48:42,582 --> 03:48:43,216
I've been in some of your

4867
03:48:43,216 --> 03:48:43,549
stations and it is pretty

4868
03:48:43,549 --> 03:48:45,549
abysmal.

4869
03:48:46,486 --> 03:48:47,870
I mean that ocean air just

4870
03:48:47,870 --> 03:48:47,587
cracks everything apart.

4871
03:48:47,587 --> 03:48:48,221
I do want to thank

4872
03:48:48,221 --> 03:48:50,621
the lifeguards though for

4873
03:48:55,227 --> 03:48:55,929
figuring out a revenue saving

4874
03:48:55,929 --> 03:48:58,865
source by branding the people

4875
03:48:58,865 --> 03:48:59,533
We talked to hundreds here and

4876
03:48:59,533 --> 03:49:00,233
we should never be in a

4877
03:49:00,233 --> 03:49:00,867
position where we're having to

4878
03:49:00,867 --> 03:49:01,568
ask to put brand names on

4879
03:49:01,568 --> 03:49:04,471
buildings to get them funded.

4880
03:49:04,471 --> 03:49:05,105
I mean this is ridiculous Given

4881
03:49:05,105 --> 03:49:05,638
this have we thought about

4882
03:49:05,638 --> 03:49:08,380
doing that for them?

4883
03:49:11,711 --> 03:49:12,311
Should be or the mission Beach

4884
03:49:12,311 --> 03:49:12,980
Lifeguard Tower I cannot

4885
03:49:12,980 --> 03:49:14,748
believe the price that they

4886
03:49:14,748 --> 03:49:15,515
wanted to call was like what

4887
03:49:15,515 --> 03:49:18,515
$33 million for one tower is

4888
03:49:21,880 --> 03:49:21,754
ridiculous But yeah I'm not

4889
03:49:21,754 --> 03:49:22,155
privy to the costs But yeah

4890
03:49:22,155 --> 03:49:24,155
absolutely.

4891
03:49:26,793 --> 03:49:27,461
Just to kind of second what

4892
03:49:27,461 --> 03:49:28,162
local 145 the lifeguards are

4893
03:49:28,162 --> 03:49:31,162
willing to work with whatever

4894
03:49:32,800 --> 03:49:33,367
we think is going to make this

4895
03:49:33,367 --> 03:49:33,734
the easiest transition

4896
03:49:33,734 --> 03:49:34,468
possible.

4897
03:49:34,468 --> 03:49:37,468
We're constantly trying to work

4898
03:49:38,710 --> 03:49:38,772
alongside all the city council

4899
03:49:38,772 --> 03:49:39,473
members to figure out ways for

4900
03:49:39,473 --> 03:49:40,700
us to to work together to make

4901
03:49:40,700 --> 03:49:42,407
to fill these gaps.

4902
03:49:44,411 --> 03:49:45,112
As you said, those are one of

4903
03:49:45,112 --> 03:49:45,746
the best parts of the job but

4904
03:49:45,746 --> 03:49:49,346
it's also one of the worst

4905
03:49:50,150 --> 03:49:50,818
parts of the job because it

4906
03:49:50,818 --> 03:49:51,518
does just destroy everything

4907
03:49:51,518 --> 03:49:51,819
that kind of comes in contact

4908
03:49:51,819 --> 03:49:53,819
with.

4909
03:49:57,257 --> 03:49:57,991
So as you said, brands

4910
03:49:57,991 --> 03:49:58,725
partnerships, stuff along those

4911
03:49:58,725 --> 03:49:59,427
lines they can make things That

4912
03:49:59,427 --> 03:50:00,940
would definitely be something

4913
03:50:00,940 --> 03:50:03,163
that I think the city could

4914
03:50:03,163 --> 03:50:03,864
look into.

4915
03:50:03,864 --> 03:50:04,565
That would be something that

4916
03:50:04,565 --> 03:50:08,165
you guys would have to decide

4917
03:50:08,302 --> 03:50:09,300
but I don't see Local 145 or

4918
03:50:09,300 --> 03:50:09,370
Local 96 you know fighting it

4919
03:50:09,370 --> 03:50:10,370
too much.

4920
03:50:10,370 --> 03:50:13,370
We're just happy and we're

4921
03:50:14,308 --> 03:50:15,900
looking for solutions and if we

4922
03:50:15,900 --> 03:50:15,709
can find solutions together I

4923
03:50:15,709 --> 03:50:16,410
think that's something that we

4924
03:50:16,410 --> 03:50:19,410
would definitely be willing to

4925
03:50:20,580 --> 03:50:20,881
talk about At the very least.

4926
03:50:20,881 --> 03:50:21,248
Okay.

4927
03:50:21,248 --> 03:50:22,160
Thank you.

4928
03:50:22,160 --> 03:50:22,716
Well, I'm happy to reserve my

4929
03:50:22,716 --> 03:50:26,316
questions for the rest of your

4930
03:50:26,586 --> 03:50:27,153
public comment but thank you

4931
03:50:27,153 --> 03:50:27,888
for what you do.

4932
03:50:27,888 --> 03:50:28,489
You can't outsource number one

4933
03:50:28,489 --> 03:50:28,856
and you can't not answer

4934
03:50:28,856 --> 03:50:30,856
the call.

4935
03:50:32,593 --> 03:50:33,361
You know and I know you guys

4936
03:50:33,361 --> 03:50:34,280
are all working When I say guys

4937
03:50:34,280 --> 03:50:37,280
I mean men, women, everybody

4938
03:50:38,933 --> 03:50:39,734
longer hours and callbacks that

4939
03:50:39,734 --> 03:50:40,434
you have to You can't say no to

4940
03:50:40,434 --> 03:50:41,168
mandatory overtime And I know

4941
03:50:41,168 --> 03:50:44,839
you have to go to the wildfires

4942
03:50:44,839 --> 03:50:45,472
as well for strikes So anytime

4943
03:50:45,472 --> 03:50:46,106
you would have off you're

4944
03:50:46,106 --> 03:50:46,807
heading wildfires in their

4945
03:50:46,807 --> 03:50:49,807
jurisdictions And I know that

4946
03:50:50,710 --> 03:50:51,412
is incredibly taxing on you on

4947
03:50:51,412 --> 03:50:52,113
your families and it's really

4948
03:50:52,113 --> 03:50:55,713
been awful to see that spiral.

4949
03:50:57,318 --> 03:50:57,951
So thank you for coming in and

4950
03:50:57,951 --> 03:50:58,686
raising awareness of this

4951
03:50:58,686 --> 03:50:59,200
because we need to do better as

4952
03:50:59,200 --> 03:50:59,520
a city.

4953
03:50:59,520 --> 03:50:59,887
>> Appreciate it.

4954
03:50:59,887 --> 03:51:00,254
All right.

4955
03:51:00,254 --> 03:51:02,254
Thank you.

4956
03:51:03,190 --> 03:51:03,958
Councilmember Bumble.

4957
03:51:03,958 --> 03:51:04,425
First we'll go next to Council

4958
03:51:04,425 --> 03:51:04,791
member Campion.

4959
03:51:04,791 --> 03:51:05,526
Thank you.

4960
03:51:05,526 --> 03:51:06,260
Council PRESIDENT Want to thank

4961
03:51:06,260 --> 03:51:07,794
both of our recognized employer

4962
03:51:07,794 --> 03:51:08,563
organizations for being here

4963
03:51:08,563 --> 03:51:09,263
and so many folks showing up in

4964
03:51:09,263 --> 03:51:12,263
public and checking your cell

4965
03:51:12,833 --> 03:51:13,567
phones to see how your

4966
03:51:13,567 --> 03:51:14,234
colleagues are doing right now.

4967
03:51:14,234 --> 03:51:14,535
I know you're worried about

4968
03:51:14,535 --> 03:51:16,535
them.

4969
03:51:19,106 --> 03:51:19,740
I appreciate the dichotomy of

4970
03:51:19,740 --> 03:51:20,408
what we're seeing from Los

4971
03:51:20,408 --> 03:51:23,408
Angeles versus San Diego and

4972
03:51:25,145 --> 03:51:26,130
what the difference is and

4973
03:51:26,130 --> 03:51:29,613
keeping pace And I know that

4974
03:51:31,385 --> 03:51:32,860
given how far ahead L.A. Is

4975
03:51:32,860 --> 03:51:35,860
21,000 plus dollars a year at

4976
03:51:36,790 --> 03:51:37,491
the starting end of the scale,

4977
03:51:37,491 --> 03:51:41,910
if L.A. Increases by 3% every

4978
03:51:42,930 --> 03:51:43,731
year, we would have to increase

4979
03:51:43,731 --> 03:51:44,165
by 6% every year to catch them

4980
03:51:44,165 --> 03:51:46,165
in ten years.

4981
03:51:52,774 --> 03:51:53,541
So this is an L.A. And San

4982
03:51:53,541 --> 03:51:53,841
Diego give or take a few things

4983
03:51:53,841 --> 03:51:55,841
here.

4984
03:51:59,113 --> 03:51:59,814
There are roughly the same cost

4985
03:51:59,814 --> 03:52:00,516
of living a little bit more

4986
03:52:00,516 --> 03:52:02,916
expensive for apartments here,

4987
03:52:04,385 --> 03:52:05,190
a little bit more expensive for

4988
03:52:05,190 --> 03:52:05,619
groceries and gasoline and

4989
03:52:05,619 --> 03:52:07,619
transportation up there.

4990
03:52:10,525 --> 03:52:11,225
So I think the counterpart that

4991
03:52:11,225 --> 03:52:11,859
you chose is absolutely right.

4992
03:52:11,859 --> 03:52:15,459
That is what we should peg

4993
03:52:16,290 --> 03:52:16,731
ourselves to And say how are we

4994
03:52:16,731 --> 03:52:20,331
going to get to that standard

4995
03:52:21,902 --> 03:52:22,603
and aim for that And just

4996
03:52:22,603 --> 03:52:26,203
thinking that we have to give

4997
03:52:27,509 --> 03:52:28,209
twice the percentage in terms

4998
03:52:28,209 --> 03:52:28,910
of increases to catch up It's

4999
03:52:28,910 --> 03:52:31,910
daunting but why shouldn't we

5000
03:52:33,514 --> 03:52:34,215
set that goal?

5001
03:52:34,215 --> 03:52:34,582
Why shouldn't we prioritize it

5002
03:52:34,582 --> 03:52:35,830
that way?

5003
03:52:35,830 --> 03:52:37,483
I think we should.

5004
03:52:40,188 --> 03:52:40,855
I wanted to point out a couple

5005
03:52:40,855 --> 03:52:41,589
things too that didn't that

5006
03:52:41,589 --> 03:52:44,589
came through but didn't weren't

5007
03:52:45,927 --> 03:52:46,494
necessarily very explicit.

5008
03:52:46,494 --> 03:52:48,894
The burnout of being

5009
03:52:51,866 --> 03:52:52,600
understaffed means that

5010
03:52:52,600 --> 03:52:52,934
the response times end up being

5011
03:52:52,934 --> 03:52:54,934
slower.

5012
03:52:57,772 --> 03:52:58,406
The folks leave to go somewhere

5013
03:52:58,406 --> 03:53:01,406
else, that the cohesion of

5014
03:53:04,279 --> 03:53:04,879
the units end up fracturing and

5015
03:53:04,879 --> 03:53:05,547
those are incalculable.

5016
03:53:05,547 --> 03:53:07,947
Those are invaluable things.

5017
03:53:09,784 --> 03:53:10,518
You can't assign a dollar

5018
03:53:10,518 --> 03:53:13,518
figure to that and ultimately

5019
03:53:16,570 --> 03:53:16,758
the public just wants to know

5020
03:53:16,758 --> 03:53:17,459
they're going to have someone

5021
03:53:17,459 --> 03:53:18,159
show up on time and you do it

5022
03:53:18,159 --> 03:53:21,759
over and over and over again.

5023
03:53:21,963 --> 03:53:22,664
But we have to quantify this So

5024
03:53:22,664 --> 03:53:23,265
I'm going to be looking at

5025
03:53:23,265 --> 03:53:25,665
the contract and future

5026
03:53:28,170 --> 03:53:28,837
contracts and say just how

5027
03:53:28,837 --> 03:53:29,637
quickly are we closing in on

5028
03:53:29,637 --> 03:53:30,380
L.A. To make sure that we keep

5029
03:53:30,380 --> 03:53:32,380
people here?

5030
03:53:32,941 --> 03:53:33,742
The second thing it was not

5031
03:53:33,742 --> 03:53:37,942
brought up today but I do want

5032
03:53:38,547 --> 03:53:39,147
to say in a public forum that

5033
03:53:39,147 --> 03:53:39,814
the presumptions that

5034
03:53:39,814 --> 03:53:42,214
the health care presumptions

5035
03:53:44,686 --> 03:53:45,387
that the city ought to have in

5036
03:53:45,387 --> 03:53:46,540
our milieux with fire and with

5037
03:53:46,540 --> 03:53:49,540
our lifeguards should be at

5038
03:53:50,859 --> 03:53:51,560
the highest standard recognize

5039
03:53:51,560 --> 03:53:52,227
the most amount of ailments to

5040
03:53:52,227 --> 03:53:52,627
take care of you in your

5041
03:53:52,627 --> 03:53:54,627
retirements.

5042
03:53:57,465 --> 03:53:58,166
I think that what a lot of

5043
03:53:58,166 --> 03:53:58,867
people might not know is just

5044
03:53:58,867 --> 03:53:59,534
the severe lack of sleep that

5045
03:53:59,534 --> 03:54:01,534
firefighters and lifeguards

5046
03:54:03,105 --> 03:54:03,739
have to go through itself over

5047
03:54:03,739 --> 03:54:04,405
the course of a lifetime.

5048
03:54:04,405 --> 03:54:05,720
It increases your chance of

5049
03:54:05,720 --> 03:54:05,774
cancer and a whole bunch of

5050
03:54:05,774 --> 03:54:08,977
other ailments And I know that

5051
03:54:08,977 --> 03:54:09,678
that's hard to calculate in

5052
03:54:09,678 --> 03:54:10,345
the long run, but I want every

5053
03:54:10,345 --> 03:54:11,460
firefighter in lifeguard to

5054
03:54:11,460 --> 03:54:15,246
know that if you get sick when

5055
03:54:15,417 --> 03:54:16,185
you're old City of the city of

5056
03:54:16,185 --> 03:54:16,518
San Diego is going to take care

5057
03:54:16,518 --> 03:54:17,252
of you.

5058
03:54:17,252 --> 03:54:20,555
Those are things that should be

5059
03:54:20,555 --> 03:54:21,323
recognized in the mou as well

5060
03:54:21,323 --> 03:54:21,890
as the dollar figure that we

5061
03:54:21,890 --> 03:54:22,624
should be aiming for.

5062
03:54:22,624 --> 03:54:23,292
So I appreciate you bringing up

5063
03:54:23,292 --> 03:54:23,959
the math and know that we're

5064
03:54:23,959 --> 03:54:26,959
fighting for more than just

5065
03:54:27,729 --> 03:54:28,330
dollars but we're fighting for

5066
03:54:28,330 --> 03:54:28,997
your families and we're

5067
03:54:28,997 --> 03:54:29,531
fighting for your health in

5068
03:54:29,531 --> 03:54:30,165
retirement as well.

5069
03:54:30,165 --> 03:54:30,799
Thanks for always bringing

5070
03:54:30,799 --> 03:54:33,799
those things up in private

5071
03:54:34,603 --> 03:54:35,700
conversations with us as well.

5072
03:54:35,700 --> 03:54:35,737
>> Thank you.

5073
03:54:35,737 --> 03:54:36,105
Council PRESIDENT All right.

5074
03:54:36,105 --> 03:54:36,705
Thank you.

5075
03:54:36,705 --> 03:54:39,105
Council Member Camp Hill

5076
03:54:39,341 --> 03:54:40,800
Council Member Foster Yes,

5077
03:54:40,800 --> 03:54:42,408
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

5078
03:54:45,313 --> 03:54:46,140
And as my colleagues mentioned,

5079
03:54:46,140 --> 03:54:46,314
thank you for for being here

5080
03:54:46,314 --> 03:54:48,314
today.

5081
03:54:50,452 --> 03:54:50,785
Thank you to your members for

5082
03:54:50,785 --> 03:54:51,552
coming.

5083
03:54:51,552 --> 03:54:55,152
I am surprised and continue to

5084
03:54:57,191 --> 03:54:57,826
be surprised that lifeguards

5085
03:54:57,826 --> 03:54:58,560
are not considered first

5086
03:54:58,560 --> 03:55:01,560
responders And I always tell

5087
03:55:03,765 --> 03:55:04,632
the story.

5088
03:55:04,632 --> 03:55:05,267
One day when I was at the beach

5089
03:55:05,267 --> 03:55:06,100
my son had graduated and I

5090
03:55:06,100 --> 03:55:10,201
happened to go out to try and

5091
03:55:10,239 --> 03:55:11,272
secure a fire.

5092
03:55:11,272 --> 03:55:11,974
When you go show up at five in

5093
03:55:11,974 --> 03:55:12,408
the morning right and camp out

5094
03:55:12,408 --> 03:55:14,408
of the firing.

5095
03:55:15,544 --> 03:55:16,245
But I must say it's a busy day,

5096
03:55:16,245 --> 03:55:19,245
first day of summer basically.

5097
03:55:20,716 --> 03:55:21,350
And one thing that I had

5098
03:55:21,350 --> 03:55:22,510
the privilege to do was to

5099
03:55:22,510 --> 03:55:24,451
actually watch our lifeguards

5100
03:55:26,555 --> 03:55:27,255
And I was amazed at I felt like

5101
03:55:27,255 --> 03:55:30,255
a lifeguard once they entered

5102
03:55:32,428 --> 03:55:33,195
the water they never came out

5103
03:55:33,195 --> 03:55:33,929
of the water as quick as they

5104
03:55:33,929 --> 03:55:34,896
came back to shore as quick as

5105
03:55:34,896 --> 03:55:39,960
they were right back in And it

5106
03:55:39,334 --> 03:55:40,169
was it was all day.

5107
03:55:40,169 --> 03:55:40,902
And so I think it's unfortunate

5108
03:55:40,902 --> 03:55:44,502
and something that I think does

5109
03:55:44,672 --> 03:55:45,708
need to be addressed long term

5110
03:55:45,708 --> 03:55:50,379
I guess just for staff and I do

5111
03:55:50,379 --> 03:55:51,146
appreciate the presentation but

5112
03:55:51,146 --> 03:55:55,346
I think one thing that I have

5113
03:55:56,619 --> 03:55:57,319
not been able to fully get my

5114
03:55:57,319 --> 03:55:58,186
arms around as we talked about

5115
03:55:58,186 --> 03:56:02,386
the city budget and as we were

5116
03:56:02,892 --> 03:56:03,692
trying to deal with deficit and

5117
03:56:03,692 --> 03:56:07,892
trying to make sure that we are

5118
03:56:09,230 --> 03:56:09,932
in a position to provide

5119
03:56:09,932 --> 03:56:10,231
resources whether that's p or

5120
03:56:10,231 --> 03:56:12,231
mp.

5121
03:56:13,803 --> 03:56:14,437
One thing is I have tried to

5122
03:56:14,437 --> 03:56:17,437
look at our vacancies on

5123
03:56:18,941 --> 03:56:19,375
finding some very interesting

5124
03:56:19,375 --> 03:56:20,109
information.

5125
03:56:20,109 --> 03:56:23,109
I'm finding that we have

5126
03:56:24,913 --> 03:56:25,615
positions that are being

5127
03:56:25,615 --> 03:56:28,615
reported as vacant dating back

5128
03:56:30,686 --> 03:56:31,654
to as late as 2017 and 2018.

5129
03:56:31,654 --> 03:56:35,854
Can you explain to me why we

5130
03:56:36,725 --> 03:56:39,725
would have positions that are

5131
03:56:41,730 --> 03:56:42,531
vacant dating back to 2017 and

5132
03:56:42,531 --> 03:56:43,198
2018 and what are we doing to

5133
03:56:43,198 --> 03:56:46,198
carry those types of numbers

5134
03:56:48,504 --> 03:56:49,271
and what impact would that have

5135
03:56:49,271 --> 03:56:53,471
to um to to our current status

5136
03:56:53,810 --> 03:56:54,510
as we are looking at in dealing

5137
03:56:54,510 --> 03:56:55,244
with negotiations and contract

5138
03:56:55,244 --> 03:56:58,844
as we look at starting salaries

5139
03:56:59,815 --> 03:57:00,583
and things of that nature

5140
03:57:00,583 --> 03:57:01,483
because I'm just lost as to why

5141
03:57:01,483 --> 03:57:04,420
we would have a position that's

5142
03:57:04,420 --> 03:57:05,187
been vacant since 2017.

5143
03:57:05,187 --> 03:57:05,855
I'm not saying it's fire so

5144
03:57:05,855 --> 03:57:08,855
please don't think that I'm

5145
03:57:13,596 --> 03:57:14,364
just in what I have seen

5146
03:57:14,364 --> 03:57:15,300
Thinking of the number of us

5147
03:57:15,300 --> 03:57:15,698
for each one of the vacancy

5148
03:57:15,698 --> 03:57:18,980
information is specific for

5149
03:57:19,269 --> 03:57:19,802
that position So maybe that

5150
03:57:19,802 --> 03:57:20,470
person was on leave.

5151
03:57:20,470 --> 03:57:21,137
If you have some examples we

5152
03:57:21,137 --> 03:57:24,137
can look into those specific

5153
03:57:24,741 --> 03:57:25,375
one the Department of Finance

5154
03:57:25,375 --> 03:57:26,750
works very closely with

5155
03:57:26,750 --> 03:57:26,809
departments to try to maintain

5156
03:57:26,809 --> 03:57:27,410
the status of the vacancies and

5157
03:57:27,410 --> 03:57:27,777
fill them as actively as

5158
03:57:27,777 --> 03:57:29,777
possible.

5159
03:57:31,113 --> 03:57:31,748
But each and every

5160
03:57:31,748 --> 03:57:32,315
classification is uniquely

5161
03:57:32,315 --> 03:57:32,815
different depending on

5162
03:57:32,815 --> 03:57:34,815
the circumstances.

5163
03:57:36,952 --> 03:57:37,586
>> Okay, I appreciate that And

5164
03:57:37,586 --> 03:57:38,187
I'll give you an example.

5165
03:57:38,187 --> 03:57:38,855
As we were looking at

5166
03:57:38,855 --> 03:57:41,855
the police department I have

5167
03:57:42,191 --> 03:57:42,925
police positions or an officer

5168
03:57:42,925 --> 03:57:43,326
positions that have been vacant

5169
03:57:43,326 --> 03:57:44,270
since 2017.

5170
03:57:44,270 --> 03:57:44,761
My question would be if it's a

5171
03:57:44,761 --> 03:57:47,161
budgeted position clearly we're

5172
03:57:49,231 --> 03:57:49,966
carrying the salary, right.

5173
03:57:49,966 --> 03:57:53,566
Which if that position has been

5174
03:57:54,804 --> 03:57:55,438
vacant since 2017, what are we

5175
03:57:55,438 --> 03:57:56,139
doing with those dollars?

5176
03:57:56,139 --> 03:57:56,739
I feel as if we are just

5177
03:57:56,739 --> 03:57:59,139
dropping the dollars to

5178
03:58:00,610 --> 03:58:01,276
the bottom and using it as a

5179
03:58:01,276 --> 03:58:01,778
slush fund to fund whatever

5180
03:58:01,778 --> 03:58:02,511
priority is there.

5181
03:58:02,511 --> 03:58:06,111
So I guess that's what I'm

5182
03:58:07,116 --> 03:58:07,817
trying to to better understand

5183
03:58:07,817 --> 03:58:08,218
and get to the bottom of that

5184
03:58:08,218 --> 03:58:10,218
makes sense.

5185
03:58:14,257 --> 03:58:14,957
As one example I think

5186
03:58:14,957 --> 03:58:15,925
Councilmember Ellis if I don't

5187
03:58:15,925 --> 03:58:18,762
know for a lot of to come up

5188
03:58:18,762 --> 03:58:19,495
but there are a few things to

5189
03:58:19,495 --> 03:58:20,196
you that one have to have a

5190
03:58:20,196 --> 03:58:22,596
conversation with your office

5191
03:58:23,600 --> 03:58:24,367
as well.

5192
03:58:24,367 --> 03:58:25,101
Just because a position is in

5193
03:58:25,101 --> 03:58:28,101
the budget does not necessarily

5194
03:58:29,872 --> 03:58:30,373
mean that it isn't and it

5195
03:58:30,373 --> 03:58:30,974
remains unfilled.

5196
03:58:30,974 --> 03:58:31,674
Doesn't mean that we are

5197
03:58:31,674 --> 03:58:32,309
setting aside dollars for it.

5198
03:58:32,309 --> 03:58:34,744
We do have what we call a

5199
03:58:34,744 --> 03:58:35,445
budget or personnel expenditure

5200
03:58:35,445 --> 03:58:36,111
savings or vacancy factor that

5201
03:58:36,111 --> 03:58:36,846
we apply to all departments.

5202
03:58:36,846 --> 03:58:41,646
So while you MAY see in fte in

5203
03:58:41,651 --> 03:58:42,352
a budget if it is vacant for

5204
03:58:42,352 --> 03:58:43,190
the entire year in many cases

5205
03:58:43,190 --> 03:58:46,190
there are not actual dollars

5206
03:58:46,990 --> 03:58:47,691
attached to it with particular

5207
03:58:47,691 --> 03:58:48,291
positions in some departments

5208
03:58:48,291 --> 03:58:50,691
where there are several

5209
03:58:54,630 --> 03:58:54,831
the same classifications we've

5210
03:58:54,831 --> 03:58:55,533
had like say five different of

5211
03:58:55,533 --> 03:58:58,533
ones or whatever the position

5212
03:58:59,135 --> 03:58:59,836
is There's frequently turnover

5213
03:58:59,836 --> 03:59:01,380
in positions that are also in

5214
03:59:01,380 --> 03:59:03,380
that same classification.

5215
03:59:06,443 --> 03:59:07,144
So there is a chance that one

5216
03:59:07,144 --> 03:59:07,844
of those positions that you'll

5217
03:59:07,844 --> 03:59:10,547
see see being vacant for 2017

5218
03:59:10,547 --> 03:59:11,248
there would have been people

5219
03:59:11,248 --> 03:59:11,914
being hired and people leaving

5220
03:59:11,914 --> 03:59:12,549
from that classification of

5221
03:59:12,549 --> 03:59:14,949
positions but that actual

5222
03:59:17,521 --> 03:59:18,188
personnel number MAY not have

5223
03:59:18,188 --> 03:59:18,889
had a person put into it.

5224
03:59:18,889 --> 03:59:19,523
Well it could have If we just

5225
03:59:19,523 --> 03:59:20,560
use a different personnel

5226
03:59:20,560 --> 03:59:22,456
number it's the same

5227
03:59:22,459 --> 03:59:23,160
classification but that gets

5228
03:59:23,160 --> 03:59:23,493
into some really nitty gritty

5229
03:59:23,493 --> 03:59:24,193
details.

5230
03:59:24,193 --> 03:59:27,193
We're probably better to spend

5231
03:59:29,399 --> 03:59:30,670
the time just you and me

5232
03:59:30,670 --> 03:59:30,734
sitting at a spreadsheet as

5233
03:59:30,734 --> 03:59:31,330
opposed to talking about it

5234
03:59:31,330 --> 03:59:33,330
here.

5235
03:59:33,904 --> 03:59:34,805
But I'm happy to follow up and

5236
03:59:34,805 --> 03:59:38,405
and I guess I appreciate that

5237
03:59:40,544 --> 03:59:41,311
clarity But even as we talk

5238
03:59:41,311 --> 03:59:45,511
about I guess a term used with

5239
03:59:46,382 --> 03:59:47,116
nitty gritty details, I don't

5240
03:59:47,116 --> 03:59:47,751
know how we fix the structural

5241
03:59:47,751 --> 03:59:48,318
deficit if we don't spend

5242
03:59:48,318 --> 03:59:51,318
the time to go through

5243
03:59:51,989 --> 03:59:52,723
the nitty gritty details and to

5244
03:59:52,723 --> 03:59:53,323
put the budget in a position to

5245
03:59:53,323 --> 03:59:55,723
where it is transparent.

5246
03:59:57,327 --> 03:59:58,950
Can we understand what is in

5247
03:59:58,950 --> 03:59:58,795
front of us And I will just

5248
03:59:58,795 --> 03:59:59,162
follow that up with unbudgeted

5249
03:59:59,162 --> 04:00:01,162
positions.

5250
04:00:03,934 --> 04:00:04,634
i think there are so many

5251
04:00:04,634 --> 04:00:05,269
things that are being moved It

5252
04:00:05,269 --> 04:00:08,269
is very, very difficult to

5253
04:00:09,272 --> 04:00:09,973
understand at any given time

5254
04:00:09,973 --> 04:00:10,640
Where are we truly at

5255
04:00:10,640 --> 04:00:13,640
financially so we can make

5256
04:00:15,412 --> 04:00:16,279
the appropriate decisions that

5257
04:00:16,279 --> 04:00:16,980
we need to make to make sure

5258
04:00:16,980 --> 04:00:17,748
when we address the structural

5259
04:00:17,748 --> 04:00:21,151
deficit and as I said before

5260
04:00:21,151 --> 04:00:21,919
too that we are providing our

5261
04:00:21,919 --> 04:00:24,919
employees our resources to meet

5262
04:00:27,124 --> 04:00:27,658
the obligations that they are

5263
04:00:27,658 --> 04:00:28,425
being asked to meet.

5264
04:00:28,425 --> 04:00:32,496
And so I just feel until we

5265
04:00:32,496 --> 04:00:33,297
deal with what we need to deal

5266
04:00:33,297 --> 04:00:36,897
with as we have a financial

5267
04:00:37,233 --> 04:00:38,340
system that I'm sure we spent

5268
04:00:38,340 --> 04:00:38,802
probably a billion or so on

5269
04:00:38,802 --> 04:00:42,402
thus far, I just think there's

5270
04:00:43,541 --> 04:00:44,207
somehow we need to get into

5271
04:00:44,207 --> 04:00:44,909
that detail and make sure we

5272
04:00:44,909 --> 04:00:49,109
understand it so we can be on

5273
04:00:49,714 --> 04:00:50,513
solid on a solid foundation as

5274
04:00:50,513 --> 04:00:51,314
I am a I'm a builder.

5275
04:00:51,314 --> 04:00:52,150
I always like to be on a solid

5276
04:00:52,150 --> 04:00:55,615
foundation so we can move this

5277
04:00:56,821 --> 04:00:57,488
city forward properly.

5278
04:00:57,488 --> 04:00:58,189
Well, we'll work with you.

5279
04:00:58,189 --> 04:00:58,522
Those are certainly important

5280
04:00:58,522 --> 04:00:59,222
details.

5281
04:00:59,222 --> 04:01:02,660
I stand back a little bit just

5282
04:01:02,660 --> 04:01:03,360
for comparison to Los Angeles

5283
04:01:03,360 --> 04:01:04,280
just to get to some of

5284
04:01:04,280 --> 04:01:04,528
the comments that I thought

5285
04:01:04,528 --> 04:01:06,528
were very present

5286
04:01:08,832 --> 04:01:09,533
Councilmember, we had I

5287
04:01:09,533 --> 04:01:10,267
appreciate it for comparison.

5288
04:01:10,267 --> 04:01:11,168
It is a very similar city to us

5289
04:01:11,168 --> 04:01:14,972
in terms of our cost of living

5290
04:01:14,972 --> 04:01:15,339
and the general cost of doing

5291
04:01:15,339 --> 04:01:16,600
business.

5292
04:01:16,600 --> 04:01:16,640
They have a higher sales tax

5293
04:01:16,640 --> 04:01:17,208
rate that goes directly to

5294
04:01:17,208 --> 04:01:20,208
their city than we do.

5295
04:01:20,310 --> 04:01:20,945
They have a higher hotel tax

5296
04:01:20,945 --> 04:01:21,645
rate that goes directly to

5297
04:01:21,645 --> 04:01:22,179
the city and we do They have a

5298
04:01:22,179 --> 04:01:22,879
utilities user tax.

5299
04:01:22,879 --> 04:01:27,790
The city of San Diego does not

5300
04:01:27,184 --> 04:01:27,618
have any They have a parking

5301
04:01:27,618 --> 04:01:28,319
occupancy tax.

5302
04:01:28,319 --> 04:01:31,289
The city of San Diego does not

5303
04:01:31,289 --> 04:01:31,989
have any They have a documented

5304
04:01:31,989 --> 04:01:32,690
transfer tax for the two times

5305
04:01:32,690 --> 04:01:33,391
or more the city of San Diego

5306
04:01:33,391 --> 04:01:36,391
starting the transfer tax They

5307
04:01:37,595 --> 04:01:37,928
have a business gross receipts

5308
04:01:37,928 --> 04:01:38,595
tax.

5309
04:01:38,595 --> 04:01:39,263
The city does not have a

5310
04:01:39,263 --> 04:01:41,663
business gross receipts tax

5311
04:01:43,801 --> 04:01:44,502
They have an enormous we larger

5312
04:01:44,502 --> 04:01:45,169
tax base and the number of

5313
04:01:45,169 --> 04:01:45,636
taxes and revenues that are

5314
04:01:45,636 --> 04:01:47,636
going into them.

5315
04:01:49,640 --> 04:01:50,308
The city of San Diego does that

5316
04:01:50,308 --> 04:01:51,800
factors into what they can

5317
04:01:51,800 --> 04:01:51,575
afford to pay their employees

5318
04:01:51,575 --> 04:01:52,309
and that factors in to

5319
04:01:52,309 --> 04:01:52,977
the limited amount that we have

5320
04:01:52,977 --> 04:01:55,977
for the services that people

5321
04:01:58,583 --> 04:02:00,583
are demanding.

5322
04:02:04,222 --> 04:02:04,521
All right good counsel present

5323
04:02:04,521 --> 04:02:05,220
.

5324
04:02:05,220 --> 04:02:05,623
>> All right.

5325
04:02:05,623 --> 04:02:05,956
Thank you, Councilmember

5326
04:02:05,956 --> 04:02:06,657
Foster.

5327
04:02:06,657 --> 04:02:07,240
We'll go next to Councilmember

5328
04:02:07,240 --> 04:02:07,525
Campbell.

5329
04:02:07,525 --> 04:02:09,925
Thank you so much.

5330
04:02:10,895 --> 04:02:11,662
Council PRESIDENT.

5331
04:02:11,662 --> 04:02:12,363
I wanted just a little bit

5332
04:02:12,363 --> 04:02:15,963
different First of all, I want

5333
04:02:16,200 --> 04:02:16,934
to say that the first

5334
04:02:16,934 --> 04:02:17,602
responsibility of government is

5335
04:02:17,602 --> 04:02:21,139
the safety of the people and

5336
04:02:21,139 --> 04:02:21,806
that our first responders which

5337
04:02:21,806 --> 04:02:24,806
I have always felt included

5338
04:02:27,178 --> 04:02:28,450
lifeguards, firemen and police

5339
04:02:28,450 --> 04:02:31,450
and paramedics and our medics

5340
04:02:33,116 --> 04:02:33,717
and our ambulance services.

5341
04:02:33,717 --> 04:02:36,717
First of all, thank you.

5342
04:02:40,191 --> 04:02:40,958
You are number one.

5343
04:02:40,958 --> 04:02:41,659
You are what we need the most

5344
04:02:41,659 --> 04:02:45,129
of this is our number one

5345
04:02:45,129 --> 04:02:45,897
responsibility is government.

5346
04:02:45,897 --> 04:02:46,664
Number two, when I saw your

5347
04:02:46,664 --> 04:02:49,664
eight years ago our firemen

5348
04:02:51,135 --> 04:02:54,135
police and lifeguards were paid

5349
04:02:56,207 --> 04:02:56,874
28, 29 and 35 compared to

5350
04:02:56,874 --> 04:02:57,575
the 30 cities with which our

5351
04:02:57,575 --> 04:02:59,975
personnel people would compare

5352
04:03:01,746 --> 04:03:02,547
us to.

5353
04:03:02,547 --> 04:03:03,447
I thought this was appalling.

5354
04:03:03,447 --> 04:03:07,470
I immediately went to work to

5355
04:03:07,317 --> 04:03:08,285
raise it.

5356
04:03:08,285 --> 04:03:09,530
My goal was to raise it to

5357
04:03:09,530 --> 04:03:12,530
number one position of all

5358
04:03:13,957 --> 04:03:17,557
those 30 cities we got at least

5359
04:03:18,964 --> 04:03:20,964
halfway there.

5360
04:03:24,340 --> 04:03:24,735
Now I'd like to ask who are

5361
04:03:24,735 --> 04:03:25,470
the three that we compare to

5362
04:03:25,470 --> 04:03:29,700
And I haven't heard the numbers

5363
04:03:29,774 --> 04:03:30,642
for this year but I thought we

5364
04:03:30,642 --> 04:03:31,900
were still at least in a median

5365
04:03:31,900 --> 04:03:31,475
position.

5366
04:03:31,475 --> 04:03:33,475
Am I incorrect?

5367
04:03:34,120 --> 04:03:37,612
Have we slipped back down to

5368
04:03:40,180 --> 04:03:40,718
28, 29th and 30th they're

5369
04:03:40,718 --> 04:03:44,318
looking at up In the meantime

5370
04:03:45,457 --> 04:03:45,756
let me say lifeguards thank you

5371
04:03:45,756 --> 04:03:46,558
.

5372
04:03:46,558 --> 04:03:50,158
I know that you saved thousands

5373
04:03:51,996 --> 04:03:52,697
and thousands of lives every

5374
04:03:52,697 --> 04:03:53,265
year with with water rescue

5375
04:03:53,265 --> 04:03:55,265
especially tourists in

5376
04:03:58,690 --> 04:03:58,804
the ocean And I don't think

5377
04:03:58,804 --> 04:03:59,504
the general public in San Diego

5378
04:03:59,504 --> 04:04:02,504
realizes how many thousands of

5379
04:04:04,275 --> 04:04:05,210
lives you guys save.

5380
04:04:05,210 --> 04:04:05,910
And I want to restate that in

5381
04:04:05,910 --> 04:04:10,110
the month of MARCH which as we

5382
04:04:10,748 --> 04:04:11,515
all remember was very hot this

5383
04:04:11,515 --> 04:04:14,515
year you guys saved about 800

5384
04:04:16,321 --> 04:04:17,289
people from drowning.

5385
04:04:17,289 --> 04:04:17,889
And I also want to thank you

5386
04:04:17,889 --> 04:04:20,889
because you do the water

5387
04:04:22,594 --> 04:04:23,328
rescues during floods and you

5388
04:04:23,328 --> 04:04:24,129
have saved many lives that way.

5389
04:04:24,129 --> 04:04:27,729
You have gone all over this

5390
04:04:28,366 --> 04:04:29,167
nation doing water rescues And

5391
04:04:29,167 --> 04:04:33,367
I so appreciate that And I know

5392
04:04:34,172 --> 04:04:34,639
we all do So I do not want you

5393
04:04:34,639 --> 04:04:35,306
to be underpaid.

5394
04:04:35,306 --> 04:04:35,841
I don't think any of us want

5395
04:04:35,841 --> 04:04:38,241
you to be underpaid.

5396
04:04:41,313 --> 04:04:42,180
Of course the lifeguards

5397
04:04:42,180 --> 04:04:46,251
station and will be that a tin

5398
04:04:46,251 --> 04:04:46,952
can When I got elected Scott

5399
04:04:46,952 --> 04:04:47,653
Peters came over my house.

5400
04:04:47,653 --> 04:04:48,353
He was our congressman then.

5401
04:04:48,353 --> 04:04:51,353
He had been PRESIDENT Of

5402
04:04:52,491 --> 04:04:53,158
the council and he had been

5403
04:04:53,158 --> 04:04:53,859
the head of the Environment

5404
04:04:53,859 --> 04:04:54,559
Committee and he asked me what

5405
04:04:54,559 --> 04:04:55,160
committee I want to be head of

5406
04:04:55,160 --> 04:04:57,560
and I said environment.

5407
04:04:58,430 --> 04:04:58,730
So it was perfect that he was

5408
04:04:58,730 --> 04:04:59,497
there.

5409
04:04:59,497 --> 04:05:00,265
He said What can I do to help?

5410
04:05:00,265 --> 04:05:00,599
I said We need a new lifeguard

5411
04:05:00,599 --> 04:05:02,599
station.

5412
04:05:04,690 --> 04:05:04,470
It'll be He said I'll do what I

5413
04:05:04,470 --> 04:05:05,404
can to help.

5414
04:05:05,404 --> 04:05:09,604
And he tried to get money from

5415
04:05:10,342 --> 04:05:11,760
the federal government for us.

5416
04:05:11,760 --> 04:05:14,676
Now you know the problems we've

5417
04:05:15,547 --> 04:05:15,848
had with the federal government

5418
04:05:15,848 --> 04:05:16,582
.

5419
04:05:16,582 --> 04:05:16,949
Nevertheless we should have had

5420
04:05:16,949 --> 04:05:17,616
that done.

5421
04:05:17,616 --> 04:05:21,216
We should have had it built.

5422
04:05:22,187 --> 04:05:22,821
We went through a variety of

5423
04:05:22,821 --> 04:05:23,222
exercises with our finance

5424
04:05:23,222 --> 04:05:23,855
department.

5425
04:05:23,855 --> 04:05:26,255
Our police department was

5426
04:05:28,694 --> 04:05:29,394
willing to share with

5427
04:05:29,394 --> 04:05:30,950
the budgeting of this so that

5428
04:05:30,950 --> 04:05:30,763
they could also have a station

5429
04:05:30,763 --> 04:05:33,763
where they could write their

5430
04:05:34,300 --> 04:05:34,700
reports whenever at

5431
04:05:34,700 --> 04:05:35,367
the beaches.

5432
04:05:35,367 --> 04:05:38,967
But this has not come to

5433
04:05:39,972 --> 04:05:40,773
fruition and it was horrible

5434
04:05:40,773 --> 04:05:44,373
eight years ago when I looked

5435
04:05:46,312 --> 04:05:46,812
at it and it's worse now So I

5436
04:05:46,812 --> 04:05:47,679
feel for you.

5437
04:05:47,679 --> 04:05:48,380
I feel for you and I think we

5438
04:05:48,380 --> 04:05:51,380
all do But especially because

5439
04:05:52,618 --> 04:05:53,318
so much of my district is beach

5440
04:05:53,318 --> 04:05:55,718
area I definitely, definitely

5441
04:05:57,823 --> 04:05:58,524
feel for you and I definitely

5442
04:05:58,524 --> 04:05:58,858
have witnessed what you go

5443
04:05:58,858 --> 04:05:59,492
through.

5444
04:05:59,492 --> 04:06:03,920
So do we have that answer?

5445
04:06:05,965 --> 04:06:06,699
Yes.

5446
04:06:06,699 --> 04:06:07,332
Councilor Campbell based on our

5447
04:06:07,332 --> 04:06:07,900
recent total compensation

5448
04:06:07,900 --> 04:06:10,350
survey which we do in

5449
04:06:10,350 --> 04:06:10,669
preparation for negotiation,

5450
04:06:10,669 --> 04:06:11,203
the four new hires the 145

5451
04:06:11,203 --> 04:06:13,203
represented overall

5452
04:06:15,673 --> 04:06:16,108
classification is 4.9% below

5453
04:06:16,108 --> 04:06:16,842
market median.

5454
04:06:16,842 --> 04:06:21,420
So in other words we'd have to

5455
04:06:21,446 --> 04:06:21,947
be 4.9% to get to market median

5456
04:06:21,947 --> 04:06:22,415
for their overall

5457
04:06:22,415 --> 04:06:23,490
classification.

5458
04:06:23,490 --> 04:06:23,749
Now each of the individual

5459
04:06:23,749 --> 04:06:24,316
classifications have different

5460
04:06:24,316 --> 04:06:26,716
amounts but that's for

5461
04:06:28,954 --> 04:06:29,422
the average for the entire

5462
04:06:29,422 --> 04:06:29,955
bargaining unit.

5463
04:06:29,955 --> 04:06:32,355
But that's for fire.

5464
04:06:32,991 --> 04:06:33,526
That's for level 145

5465
04:06:33,526 --> 04:06:34,930
representative wage.

5466
04:06:34,930 --> 04:06:34,794
What about lifeguard?

5467
04:06:34,794 --> 04:06:37,194
Well, lifeguards are difficult

5468
04:06:37,596 --> 04:06:38,263
because we don't have 30 we can

5469
04:06:38,263 --> 04:06:38,964
compare with because not too

5470
04:06:38,964 --> 04:06:39,632
many people have the beaches.

5471
04:06:39,632 --> 04:06:43,102
We have not too many cities

5472
04:06:43,102 --> 04:06:43,936
have that.

5473
04:06:43,936 --> 04:06:48,107
So I know we don't compare to

5474
04:06:48,107 --> 04:06:48,507
30 but we did compare to what

5475
04:06:48,507 --> 04:06:48,808
ten others?

5476
04:06:48,808 --> 04:06:50,808
Yeah.

5477
04:06:54,790 --> 04:06:54,780
So for local effects we are 1%

5478
04:06:54,780 --> 04:06:55,414
above the market median based

5479
04:06:55,414 --> 04:06:55,748
on that total compensation

5480
04:06:55,748 --> 04:06:56,482
survey.

5481
04:06:56,482 --> 04:07:00,820
But as you said we're difficult

5482
04:07:00,653 --> 04:07:01,319
to compare to other agencies.

5483
04:07:01,319 --> 04:07:01,621
That's the closest that we

5484
04:07:01,621 --> 04:07:03,621
have.

5485
04:07:04,624 --> 04:07:05,324
It's for a very small number.

5486
04:07:05,324 --> 04:07:06,125
It's 45 classifications are

5487
04:07:06,125 --> 04:07:09,725
surveyed and out of that total

5488
04:07:20,306 --> 04:07:20,973
there is apologies Once again

5489
04:07:20,973 --> 04:07:21,473
there's about five agencies

5490
04:07:21,473 --> 04:07:22,740
that have similar

5491
04:07:22,740 --> 04:07:24,740
classifications that are

5492
04:07:27,130 --> 04:07:27,679
similar in nature so that

5493
04:07:27,679 --> 04:07:27,980
the comparison is the 1% to

5494
04:07:27,980 --> 04:07:29,980
that.

5495
04:07:30,716 --> 04:07:31,170
So out of the classes it's

5496
04:07:31,170 --> 04:07:31,651
three.

5497
04:07:31,651 --> 04:07:32,352
So we're we're we're going

5498
04:07:32,352 --> 04:07:35,352
we're backsliding a little bit

5499
04:07:37,490 --> 04:07:41,900
on the fire almost 5% and we're

5500
04:07:43,530 --> 04:07:44,497
more median on the lifeguards

5501
04:07:44,497 --> 04:07:45,164
But we need to we need to do

5502
04:07:45,164 --> 04:07:48,164
better And I still have

5503
04:07:48,400 --> 04:07:49,102
the goal of 100% of those my

5504
04:07:49,102 --> 04:07:52,702
last year on council I'm sorry

5505
04:07:54,574 --> 04:07:55,309
about that but I was very

5506
04:07:55,309 --> 04:07:56,900
interested in what the idea had

5507
04:07:56,900 --> 04:07:59,609
to say about the various fees

5508
04:08:00,446 --> 04:08:00,879
that Los Angeles can collect

5509
04:08:00,879 --> 04:08:01,514
that we don't.

5510
04:08:01,514 --> 04:08:02,114
They have also the second

5511
04:08:02,114 --> 04:08:04,514
largest city in America.

5512
04:08:07,319 --> 04:08:08,210
They have at least ten times

5513
04:08:08,210 --> 04:08:08,621
more population than we have.

5514
04:08:08,621 --> 04:08:11,621
So that makes it better.

5515
04:08:13,125 --> 04:08:13,593
However, I must say also I grew

5516
04:08:13,593 --> 04:08:14,227
up in Colorado.

5517
04:08:14,227 --> 04:08:14,760
I've lived in many places

5518
04:08:14,760 --> 04:08:16,760
around the country.

5519
04:08:19,310 --> 04:08:19,565
I have never seen a city not

5520
04:08:19,565 --> 04:08:20,267
have an income tax.

5521
04:08:20,267 --> 04:08:23,867
The city does not have an

5522
04:08:24,704 --> 04:08:25,505
income tax.

5523
04:08:25,505 --> 04:08:26,172
Not smart for a politician to

5524
04:08:26,172 --> 04:08:29,772
talk about tax But you know

5525
04:08:30,410 --> 04:08:31,276
what cities need income.

5526
04:08:31,276 --> 04:08:35,476
We have a lot of income one

5527
04:08:35,915 --> 04:08:36,683
fourth of it for a general fund

5528
04:08:36,683 --> 04:08:37,651
we get from property tax.

5529
04:08:37,651 --> 04:08:41,251
We add $0.12 on the dollar from

5530
04:08:42,188 --> 04:08:42,955
the county on our property tax

5531
04:08:42,955 --> 04:08:47,155
and a lot of our property tax

5532
04:08:47,394 --> 04:08:48,160
goes to schools.

5533
04:08:48,160 --> 04:08:49,128
So that's good because we have

5534
04:08:49,128 --> 04:08:53,328
to we have to help our schools

5535
04:08:54,234 --> 04:08:55,000
But is this right?

5536
04:08:55,000 --> 04:08:58,600
When I was in the legislature

5537
04:09:00,600 --> 04:09:00,707
and I wasn't even running for

5538
04:09:00,707 --> 04:09:01,575
office I asked him about this

5539
04:09:01,575 --> 04:09:05,175
and he said he he had

5540
04:09:06,479 --> 04:09:06,813
the legislate idea get in touch

5541
04:09:06,813 --> 04:09:07,814
with me.

5542
04:09:07,814 --> 04:09:12,140
And what we found out was that

5543
04:09:12,552 --> 04:09:13,186
the legislature, the state

5544
04:09:13,186 --> 04:09:15,186
legislature of Sacramento

5545
04:09:18,725 --> 04:09:19,392
decides how much percent

5546
04:09:19,392 --> 04:09:20,126
the cities in the county are

5547
04:09:20,126 --> 04:09:20,559
going to get out of that county

5548
04:09:20,559 --> 04:09:22,559
property tax.

5549
04:09:24,931 --> 04:09:27,931
The legislature decides not at

5550
04:09:30,103 --> 04:09:30,704
the local people legislature.

5551
04:09:30,704 --> 04:09:33,104
So that's one thing.

5552
04:09:35,509 --> 04:09:36,209
Now our our $0.12 was decided

5553
04:09:36,209 --> 04:09:36,910
probably 1950 when the county

5554
04:09:36,910 --> 04:09:39,910
provided most of the services

5555
04:09:42,349 --> 04:09:42,784
to the people who lived in San

5556
04:09:42,784 --> 04:09:43,450
Diego County.

5557
04:09:43,450 --> 04:09:47,500
We were very small city then

5558
04:09:47,888 --> 04:09:48,555
but it hasn't changed since and

5559
04:09:48,555 --> 04:09:52,155
it's supposed to be based on

5560
04:09:53,827 --> 04:09:54,561
the number of services provided

5561
04:09:54,561 --> 04:09:55,495
by that governmental entity.

5562
04:09:55,495 --> 04:09:59,695
So we need to tell our people

5563
04:10:00,701 --> 04:10:01,301
in Sacramento and I'm sure

5564
04:10:01,301 --> 04:10:02,690
every other big city in

5565
04:10:02,690 --> 04:10:05,669
the state is going through this

5566
04:10:06,373 --> 04:10:07,107
although we are the second

5567
04:10:07,107 --> 04:10:11,445
largest next to L.A. We need to

5568
04:10:11,445 --> 04:10:11,778
tell them change that it's out

5569
04:10:11,778 --> 04:10:12,478
of date.

5570
04:10:12,478 --> 04:10:13,346
We need more percent of our

5571
04:10:13,346 --> 04:10:16,946
property tax to come back to

5572
04:10:17,417 --> 04:10:18,285
San Diego.

5573
04:10:18,285 --> 04:10:18,552
So that's one thing we need to

5574
04:10:18,552 --> 04:10:19,353
do.

5575
04:10:19,353 --> 04:10:22,353
Another thing we need to

5576
04:10:23,824 --> 04:10:24,591
consider as citizens think

5577
04:10:24,591 --> 04:10:28,791
about it Would it kill you to

5578
04:10:29,563 --> 04:10:30,264
pay a half a percent of

5579
04:10:30,264 --> 04:10:30,831
whatever it is you pay to

5580
04:10:30,831 --> 04:10:31,980
the state income tax?

5581
04:10:31,980 --> 04:10:33,980
No.

5582
04:10:35,436 --> 04:10:35,835
Would it help your city?

5583
04:10:35,835 --> 04:10:36,336
Yes.

5584
04:10:36,336 --> 04:10:37,171
Think about that.

5585
04:10:37,171 --> 04:10:40,771
I know people hate to even

5586
04:10:41,608 --> 04:10:42,209
think about taxes.

5587
04:10:42,209 --> 04:10:43,440
I don't blame you.

5588
04:10:43,440 --> 04:10:47,244
We all hate paying taxes but we

5589
04:10:47,414 --> 04:10:48,248
have to if we want services we

5590
04:10:48,248 --> 04:10:49,150
have to pay for them And if we

5591
04:10:49,150 --> 04:10:52,615
want to pay our people an

5592
04:10:53,487 --> 04:10:53,854
excellent wage we have to raise

5593
04:10:53,854 --> 04:10:54,721
the money.

5594
04:10:54,721 --> 04:10:58,892
So we have to think of new and

5595
04:10:58,892 --> 04:10:59,559
different ways and we have to

5596
04:10:59,559 --> 04:11:00,461
look at all those extra fees

5597
04:11:00,461 --> 04:11:04,610
that are against and figure out

5598
04:11:05,265 --> 04:11:06,330
how we can help so that we have

5599
04:11:06,330 --> 04:11:09,633
more budget so that we can

5600
04:11:10,671 --> 04:11:11,437
raise the wages.

5601
04:11:11,437 --> 04:11:12,173
And something else I'd just

5602
04:11:12,173 --> 04:11:13,600
like to say to my colleagues to

5603
04:11:13,600 --> 04:11:16,606
consider and that is that there

5604
04:11:17,344 --> 04:11:18,780
has been a big push to give

5605
04:11:18,780 --> 04:11:18,612
something like $10.3 million to

5606
04:11:18,612 --> 04:11:21,120
the arts this year.

5607
04:11:23,516 --> 04:11:24,217
I believe last year I know

5608
04:11:24,217 --> 04:11:24,918
somebody out there can tell me

5609
04:11:24,918 --> 04:11:25,285
how much we gave to the arts

5610
04:11:25,285 --> 04:11:27,285
last year.

5611
04:11:32,426 --> 04:11:33,194
Was it 4.7 million?

5612
04:11:33,194 --> 04:11:36,794
Do you remember Rolando I don't

5613
04:11:38,866 --> 04:11:39,500
I don't recall exactly but it

5614
04:11:39,500 --> 04:11:40,200
was nowhere near the 10.3.

5615
04:11:40,200 --> 04:11:40,800
>> Some people want to get it

5616
04:11:40,800 --> 04:11:43,200
this year because you're

5617
04:11:44,739 --> 04:11:45,539
talking about paying for

5618
04:11:45,539 --> 04:11:49,739
the arts and for the arts Last

5619
04:11:49,876 --> 04:11:50,544
year last year 11.8 million 11

5620
04:11:50,544 --> 04:11:53,544
point How many Point eight.

5621
04:11:54,715 --> 04:11:55,480
>> Okay So last year was 11

5622
04:11:55,480 --> 04:11:55,716
million.

5623
04:11:55,716 --> 04:11:56,500
This year we're talking 10.3

5624
04:11:56,500 --> 04:11:56,316
million.

5625
04:11:56,316 --> 04:11:58,316
Yes.

5626
04:12:00,120 --> 04:12:00,520
Okay.

5627
04:12:00,520 --> 04:12:01,388
All right.

5628
04:12:01,388 --> 04:12:01,755
Well, we need to give money to

5629
04:12:01,755 --> 04:12:02,230
the arts.

5630
04:12:02,230 --> 04:12:04,230
Why?

5631
04:12:06,427 --> 04:12:06,726
Because the arts bring us

5632
04:12:06,726 --> 04:12:07,428
money.

5633
04:12:07,428 --> 04:12:11,280
The arts bring us revenue and

5634
04:12:11,732 --> 04:12:12,333
the arts for our souls So we do

5635
04:12:12,333 --> 04:12:12,834
need money for the arts.

5636
04:12:12,834 --> 04:12:13,467
But you know what?

5637
04:12:13,467 --> 04:12:15,867
Public safety number one.

5638
04:12:18,380 --> 04:12:18,740
So I asked my colleagues

5639
04:12:18,740 --> 04:12:19,173
consider other things that you

5640
04:12:19,173 --> 04:12:21,173
want to fund.

5641
04:12:24,745 --> 04:12:25,446
Is it possible is it possible

5642
04:12:25,446 --> 04:12:29,460
that we can shift some things

5643
04:12:30,151 --> 04:12:30,451
so that our people get a decent

5644
04:12:30,451 --> 04:12:31,219
wage?

5645
04:12:31,219 --> 04:12:35,419
Think about it We might not be

5646
04:12:36,858 --> 04:12:37,458
able to do this year but let's

5647
04:12:37,458 --> 04:12:38,192
let's all put our heads

5648
04:12:38,192 --> 04:12:41,792
together and think of ways that

5649
04:12:42,960 --> 04:12:42,864
we can have more money so our

5650
04:12:42,864 --> 04:12:43,331
city is not starving for funds.

5651
04:12:43,331 --> 04:12:43,998
>> Thank you.

5652
04:12:43,998 --> 04:12:46,398
Council PRESIDENT Thank you.

5653
04:12:50,471 --> 04:12:51,172
Council member Campbell Council

5654
04:12:51,172 --> 04:12:51,873
Member Lippert I about Council

5655
04:12:51,873 --> 04:12:52,606
PRESIDENT I'll be very brief.

5656
04:12:52,606 --> 04:12:53,107
>> My colleagues have had a lot

5657
04:12:53,107 --> 04:12:55,107
of good comments.

5658
04:12:55,143 --> 04:12:55,810
I just like to take

5659
04:12:55,810 --> 04:12:56,760
the opportunity to say thank

5660
04:12:56,760 --> 04:12:56,811
you.

5661
04:12:56,811 --> 04:12:59,811
You had an extraordinary number

5662
04:13:00,748 --> 04:13:01,415
of calls in my district which

5663
04:13:01,415 --> 04:13:02,116
is this urban area that goes

5664
04:13:02,116 --> 04:13:04,516
without her permission valid.

5665
04:13:05,954 --> 04:13:06,554
You know, you get a lot of

5666
04:13:06,554 --> 04:13:07,188
medical calls for people

5667
04:13:07,188 --> 04:13:07,889
experiencing homelessness.

5668
04:13:07,889 --> 04:13:11,489
You've got all the high rises

5669
04:13:11,993 --> 04:13:12,426
with fire alarms, crashes on

5670
04:13:12,426 --> 04:13:13,610
the freeways.

5671
04:13:13,610 --> 04:13:15,461
The lifeguards respond to

5672
04:13:18,366 --> 04:13:18,666
floods and the river when it

5673
04:13:18,666 --> 04:13:19,334
rains.

5674
04:13:19,334 --> 04:13:19,634
I know you have your hands

5675
04:13:19,634 --> 04:13:20,201
full.

5676
04:13:20,201 --> 04:13:22,601
It's a difficult job.

5677
04:13:25,600 --> 04:13:25,440
I just want you to have I just

5678
04:13:25,440 --> 04:13:25,806
appreciate it.

5679
04:13:25,806 --> 04:13:26,307
Thank you.

5680
04:13:26,307 --> 04:13:26,674
Council PRESIDENT.

5681
04:13:26,674 --> 04:13:27,242
All right.

5682
04:13:27,242 --> 04:13:29,242
Thank you, gentlemen.

5683
04:13:30,145 --> 04:13:30,544
I would not see anybody else in

5684
04:13:30,544 --> 04:13:31,145
the lights.

5685
04:13:31,145 --> 04:13:34,145
I'll offer a few closing

5686
04:13:35,383 --> 04:13:36,284
thoughts myself.

5687
04:13:36,284 --> 04:13:37,185
Thank you for what you all do.

5688
04:13:37,185 --> 04:13:41,385
I mean just bottom line I just

5689
04:13:41,790 --> 04:13:42,457
saw that the rental fire,

5690
04:13:42,457 --> 04:13:42,956
the forward progress on that

5691
04:13:42,956 --> 04:13:43,691
has been stopped.

5692
04:13:43,691 --> 04:13:44,358
That didn't happen magically It

5693
04:13:44,358 --> 04:13:44,993
happened because an amazing

5694
04:13:44,993 --> 04:13:47,393
number of individuals and

5695
04:13:47,929 --> 04:13:48,629
pieces of equipment were out

5696
04:13:48,629 --> 04:13:49,397
there to make that stand and

5697
04:13:49,397 --> 04:13:52,997
prevent as far as I understand

5698
04:13:53,468 --> 04:13:54,235
the structural damage out

5699
04:13:54,235 --> 04:13:55,360
there, there's a lot of mopping

5700
04:13:55,360 --> 04:13:59,106
up left to do but that happens

5701
04:13:59,106 --> 04:13:59,607
because of the training,

5702
04:13:59,607 --> 04:14:00,275
the expertise and

5703
04:14:00,275 --> 04:14:00,841
the commitment that you all

5704
04:14:00,841 --> 04:14:02,841
have individually and

5705
04:14:05,613 --> 04:14:06,381
collectively going forward.

5706
04:14:06,381 --> 04:14:06,982
Lifeguards I think I told

5707
04:14:06,982 --> 04:14:09,982
the story More than one

5708
04:14:12,654 --> 04:14:13,388
lifeguard saved my daughter,

5709
04:14:13,388 --> 04:14:14,890
her friend from a retired Donna

5710
04:14:14,890 --> 04:14:14,355
Lloyd Shores many, many years

5711
04:14:14,355 --> 04:14:16,355
ago.

5712
04:14:18,359 --> 04:14:18,726
So I always felt that was

5713
04:14:18,726 --> 04:14:19,394
personal.

5714
04:14:19,394 --> 04:14:20,610
The couple of things One I'm

5715
04:14:20,610 --> 04:14:20,695
old enough to remember when

5716
04:14:20,695 --> 04:14:23,695
there was proposal to put

5717
04:14:24,499 --> 04:14:25,266
advertisements on lifeguard

5718
04:14:25,266 --> 04:14:25,934
towers and I was down there was

5719
04:14:25,934 --> 04:14:28,934
my first tv appearance They

5720
04:14:29,837 --> 04:14:30,705
held our advertisements.

5721
04:14:30,705 --> 04:14:31,473
I think I've changed my mind.

5722
04:14:31,473 --> 04:14:35,730
If the Acme Company wants to

5723
04:14:35,811 --> 04:14:36,611
sponsor the new Mission Beach

5724
04:14:36,611 --> 04:14:37,312
Lifeguard I'm all in I tell you

5725
04:14:37,312 --> 04:14:40,912
because we got to be creative.

5726
04:14:41,415 --> 04:14:42,830
That's how we're really going

5727
04:14:42,830 --> 04:14:42,784
to do the equipment side And

5728
04:14:42,784 --> 04:14:43,451
when we take the pressure off

5729
04:14:43,451 --> 04:14:46,451
the budget on the equipment

5730
04:14:47,956 --> 04:14:48,689
side and facility side, then we

5731
04:14:48,689 --> 04:14:49,291
can talk about the salary side,

5732
04:14:49,291 --> 04:14:51,691
you know, because that's

5733
04:14:53,662 --> 04:14:54,595
incredibly important.

5734
04:14:54,595 --> 04:14:55,330
But I do want to talk about

5735
04:14:55,330 --> 04:14:58,330
facilities a little bit because

5736
04:14:59,634 --> 04:15:00,235
I've seen in my district

5737
04:15:00,235 --> 04:15:00,935
amazing support by

5738
04:15:00,935 --> 04:15:04,339
the community on the fire site

5739
04:15:04,339 --> 04:15:04,939
Fire Station 21, one of

5740
04:15:04,939 --> 04:15:05,607
the better equipped fire

5741
04:15:05,607 --> 04:15:08,700
stations Fire Station 13 got

5742
04:15:10,612 --> 04:15:11,479
totally rebuilt.

5743
04:15:11,479 --> 04:15:11,879
You see San Diego paid for Fire

5744
04:15:11,879 --> 04:15:12,480
Station 52.

5745
04:15:12,480 --> 04:15:15,480
That's that's got to be

5746
04:15:16,418 --> 04:15:17,118
the newest fire station in

5747
04:15:17,118 --> 04:15:17,852
the entire city And I believe

5748
04:15:17,852 --> 04:15:18,519
the fire station 16 is actually

5749
04:15:18,519 --> 04:15:21,519
being remodeled as we speak

5750
04:15:22,758 --> 04:15:23,225
through strictly private

5751
04:15:23,225 --> 04:15:24,250
private dollars.

5752
04:15:24,250 --> 04:15:28,225
>> We got to get some of that

5753
04:15:28,730 --> 04:15:29,498
activity on the lifeguard side

5754
04:15:29,498 --> 04:15:30,198
,North Beebe lifeguard station

5755
04:15:30,198 --> 04:15:33,350
as a whole different question

5756
04:15:33,350 --> 04:15:33,702
But I think one thank you for

5757
04:15:33,702 --> 04:15:34,303
those folks that understand

5758
04:15:34,303 --> 04:15:34,970
the importance of doing

5759
04:15:34,970 --> 04:15:37,370
everything that the private

5760
04:15:38,540 --> 04:15:39,240
sector do to can make life just

5761
04:15:39,240 --> 04:15:42,840
a little bit easier for the 24

5762
04:15:44,913 --> 04:15:45,680
hour shifts the long night etc.

5763
04:15:45,680 --> 04:15:46,448
Etc. But that what we have to

5764
04:15:46,448 --> 04:15:50,480
do better I think my colleagues

5765
04:15:51,860 --> 04:15:51,820
have said it very, very well.

5766
04:15:51,820 --> 04:15:52,520
The only other thing I'll throw

5767
04:15:52,520 --> 04:15:56,120
out there is something that my

5768
04:15:57,590 --> 04:15:57,492
office has been looking into I

5769
04:15:57,492 --> 04:15:58,193
think others.

5770
04:15:58,193 --> 04:16:01,193
Proposition 172 I think it was

5771
04:16:03,432 --> 04:16:04,300
before most of you were even

5772
04:16:04,300 --> 04:16:07,900
born and I just quit in 1993.

5773
04:16:08,636 --> 04:16:09,371
So which were supposed to be a

5774
04:16:09,371 --> 04:16:10,720
safety sales tax to make up for

5775
04:16:10,720 --> 04:16:10,540
how much money was swung over

5776
04:16:10,540 --> 04:16:12,540
into education?

5777
04:16:13,542 --> 04:16:14,276
>> I don't think the city gets

5778
04:16:14,276 --> 04:16:14,843
anywhere near its fair share of

5779
04:16:14,843 --> 04:16:15,544
that safety sales tax.

5780
04:16:15,544 --> 04:16:19,744
That would be a big bump, very

5781
04:16:20,182 --> 04:16:21,500
targeted there.

5782
04:16:21,500 --> 04:16:21,717
It's easy for me to talk about

5783
04:16:21,717 --> 04:16:22,418
the little more complicated

5784
04:16:22,418 --> 04:16:23,118
because the county would have

5785
04:16:23,118 --> 04:16:27,318
to give up some of their money

5786
04:16:27,522 --> 04:16:27,856
for for it to flow to us

5787
04:16:27,856 --> 04:16:28,491
instead.

5788
04:16:28,491 --> 04:16:29,580
But there's other ways in

5789
04:16:29,580 --> 04:16:29,758
addition to the one my

5790
04:16:29,758 --> 04:16:31,593
colleagues said So we have to

5791
04:16:31,593 --> 04:16:32,428
figure it out.

5792
04:16:32,428 --> 04:16:32,961
We're in the middle of I'm sure

5793
04:16:32,961 --> 04:16:33,662
intense negotiation.

5794
04:16:33,662 --> 04:16:34,362
You have good representatives

5795
04:16:34,362 --> 04:16:37,362
at the negotiating table going

5796
04:16:38,134 --> 04:16:38,567
forward So thank you for

5797
04:16:38,567 --> 04:16:39,268
the good work.

5798
04:16:39,268 --> 04:16:39,935
Thank you for taking the time

5799
04:16:39,935 --> 04:16:42,935
this afternoon to make your

5800
04:16:44,406 --> 04:16:45,700
case and tell your story which

5801
04:16:45,700 --> 04:16:45,708
is a very personal one.

5802
04:16:45,708 --> 04:16:49,450
So thank you again as anybody

5803
04:16:49,450 --> 04:16:49,912
else in the lights you can take

5804
04:16:49,912 --> 04:16:50,246
a seat and we will go to public

5805
04:16:50,246 --> 04:16:52,246
comment.

5806
04:16:54,917 --> 04:16:55,584
There will be one more time for

5807
04:16:55,584 --> 04:16:58,584
council members to speak on

5808
04:17:00,523 --> 04:17:01,156
this item So public comment we

5809
04:17:01,156 --> 04:17:01,791
have three speakers here.

5810
04:17:01,791 --> 04:17:04,791
>> Max Schmidt if you can

5811
04:17:05,360 --> 04:17:06,280
please come up to

5812
04:17:06,280 --> 04:17:06,729
the microphone After that we

5813
04:17:06,729 --> 04:17:09,729
have allegedly Audra and then

5814
04:17:17,539 --> 04:17:17,974
Senator and then let me just

5815
04:17:17,974 --> 04:17:18,707
set your time.

5816
04:17:18,707 --> 04:17:19,700
You'll have a minute and a

5817
04:17:19,700 --> 04:17:21,700
half.

5818
04:17:23,746 --> 04:17:24,113
Please proceed.

5819
04:17:24,113 --> 04:17:24,880
>> Hi.

5820
04:17:24,880 --> 04:17:27,880
On item 69 the presentation on

5821
04:17:28,851 --> 04:17:29,485
the status of vacancy is

5822
04:17:29,485 --> 04:17:30,180
recruitment and retention

5823
04:17:30,180 --> 04:17:30,686
efforts for the fire

5824
04:17:30,686 --> 04:17:33,860
departments a very personal

5825
04:17:34,991 --> 04:17:38,960
issue for me And the reason why

5826
04:17:38,960 --> 04:17:39,694
is because when I got on 5150

5827
04:17:39,694 --> 04:17:40,296
by Communist for simply talking

5828
04:17:40,296 --> 04:17:42,296
about reincarnation and

5829
04:17:44,733 --> 04:17:45,468
teleporting on the Internet,

5830
04:17:45,468 --> 04:17:46,201
the fire department was used to

5831
04:17:46,201 --> 04:17:50,401
try to frame me as mentally ill

5832
04:17:50,973 --> 04:17:51,674
as well and my voice will not

5833
04:17:51,674 --> 04:17:52,441
be silenced by communists 5150

5834
04:17:52,441 --> 04:17:56,410
lost My voice will not be

5835
04:17:57,547 --> 04:17:58,414
silenced by the Communists

5836
04:17:58,414 --> 04:18:01,751
saying I am mentally ill Also

5837
04:18:01,751 --> 04:18:02,518
they didn't say 5150 to me held

5838
04:18:02,518 --> 04:18:06,718
me in a psych ward for three

5839
04:18:07,223 --> 04:18:08,240
months and inside the psych

5840
04:18:08,240 --> 04:18:08,658
ward they abused me just as

5841
04:18:08,658 --> 04:18:09,358
much as I'm being abused.

5842
04:18:09,358 --> 04:18:12,358
Currently at the Alpha Project

5843
04:18:12,695 --> 04:18:13,463
homeless shelter staff I'm

5844
04:18:13,463 --> 04:18:17,630
being abused everywhere I go by

5845
04:18:18,200 --> 04:18:18,868
Freemasons following me around

5846
04:18:18,868 --> 04:18:19,535
with an omnipresent audible

5847
04:18:19,535 --> 04:18:20,270
voice saying my thoughts out

5848
04:18:20,270 --> 04:18:23,870
loud and criticizing me And I'm

5849
04:18:24,908 --> 04:18:25,675
not crazy Down with the occult

5850
04:18:25,675 --> 04:18:29,875
i'm not crazy And also I don't

5851
04:18:30,580 --> 04:18:31,180
want to say something about

5852
04:18:31,180 --> 04:18:31,915
the city council because

5853
04:18:31,915 --> 04:18:34,915
they're kind of antagonizing me

5854
04:18:36,652 --> 04:18:37,286
as I sit back there and wait to

5855
04:18:37,286 --> 04:18:37,987
speak they're saying we're

5856
04:18:37,987 --> 04:18:41,587
going to 5150 You if you keep

5857
04:18:42,758 --> 04:18:43,526
it up going to 5150 and keep it

5858
04:18:43,526 --> 04:18:44,600
up and I call your bluff you're

5859
04:18:44,600 --> 04:18:45,895
not going to see it.

5860
04:18:45,895 --> 04:18:46,663
You want 50 me right Turn it

5861
04:18:46,663 --> 04:18:47,330
ten times and look where it's

5862
04:18:47,330 --> 04:18:47,997
got you next Exposing a new

5863
04:18:47,997 --> 04:18:50,997
world order like never been

5864
04:18:51,234 --> 04:18:51,934
before You're a reincarnated

5865
04:18:51,934 --> 04:18:52,635
possessed teleporting telepath

5866
04:18:52,635 --> 04:18:56,235
You know it allegedly Order If

5867
04:19:02,312 --> 04:19:02,979
you can please come forward.

5868
04:19:02,979 --> 04:19:03,746
So there's always a domino

5869
04:19:03,746 --> 04:19:06,746
effect Everything that you guys

5870
04:19:08,283 --> 04:19:08,952
do in 2021 and beyond when you

5871
04:19:08,952 --> 04:19:11,352
guys were implementing your

5872
04:19:13,690 --> 04:19:14,424
vaccine mandates you lost quite

5873
04:19:14,424 --> 04:19:15,125
a significant amount of public

5874
04:19:15,125 --> 04:19:18,125
safety workers And we've been

5875
04:19:19,229 --> 04:19:19,863
trying to make up

5876
04:19:19,863 --> 04:19:20,463
the difference ever since.

5877
04:19:20,463 --> 04:19:21,131
And it's like if you did

5878
04:19:21,131 --> 04:19:23,531
prioritize public safety it

5879
04:19:25,502 --> 04:19:26,235
wouldn't be like this And you

5880
04:19:26,235 --> 04:19:26,870
always always want to scapegoat

5881
04:19:26,870 --> 04:19:27,571
like oh it's problems with

5882
04:19:27,571 --> 04:19:30,571
the federal government Now you

5883
04:19:31,441 --> 04:19:32,175
guys have plenty of money, you

5884
04:19:32,175 --> 04:19:32,876
get billions of our dollars and

5885
04:19:32,876 --> 04:19:35,876
you guys aren't good stewards

5886
04:19:36,413 --> 04:19:37,790
of it but yet you want to now

5887
04:19:37,790 --> 04:19:37,780
come in and probably you're

5888
04:19:37,780 --> 04:19:41,684
going to bring in some kind of

5889
04:19:41,684 --> 04:19:42,850
income tax for the people.

5890
04:19:42,850 --> 04:19:42,752
Right?

5891
04:19:42,752 --> 04:19:43,519
All the things that L.A. Has

5892
04:19:43,519 --> 04:19:47,719
And it's like I mean if you

5893
04:19:47,857 --> 04:19:48,557
guys were spending it wisely,

5894
04:19:48,557 --> 04:19:49,250
we wouldn't have to be making

5895
04:19:49,250 --> 04:19:49,760
cuts like this.

5896
04:19:49,760 --> 04:19:52,896
I mean the people that are here

5897
04:19:52,896 --> 04:19:53,596
should be making the kind of

5898
04:19:53,596 --> 04:19:54,363
money that you guys make But

5899
04:19:54,363 --> 04:19:54,964
you sit up here on the dais and

5900
04:19:54,964 --> 04:19:57,964
you're the ones that are

5901
04:19:58,668 --> 04:19:59,335
the arbiters of whether or not

5902
04:19:59,335 --> 04:20:00,200
they're going to be able to

5903
04:20:00,200 --> 04:20:03,602
make a decent wage And it's

5904
04:20:04,641 --> 04:20:05,241
like they're the ones that are

5905
04:20:05,241 --> 04:20:05,942
on the front lines doing

5906
04:20:05,942 --> 04:20:06,676
the work while you guys sit up

5907
04:20:06,676 --> 04:20:09,713
here and pretend that you are

5908
04:20:09,713 --> 04:20:10,314
significant when it's actually

5909
04:20:10,314 --> 04:20:10,981
them and people that are

5910
04:20:10,981 --> 04:20:13,381
actually, you know, putting

5911
04:20:15,852 --> 04:20:16,552
their lives on the line And

5912
04:20:16,552 --> 04:20:17,220
it's just sad because you act

5913
04:20:17,220 --> 04:20:17,888
like there's just not enough

5914
04:20:17,888 --> 04:20:18,188
money now there's plenty of

5915
04:20:18,188 --> 04:20:20,188
money.

5916
04:20:21,625 --> 04:20:22,358
>> You're just misusing it And

5917
04:20:22,358 --> 04:20:23,260
if you weren't then people like

5918
04:20:23,260 --> 04:20:23,693
them wouldn't be, you know,

5919
04:20:23,693 --> 04:20:27,231
trying to figure out how to

5920
04:20:27,231 --> 04:20:27,831
just survive while you know,

5921
04:20:27,831 --> 04:20:28,165
making sure other people

5922
04:20:28,165 --> 04:20:30,165
survive.

5923
04:20:32,369 --> 04:20:33,700
So it's just sad because it's

5924
04:20:33,700 --> 04:20:33,670
like I mean you're going to

5925
04:20:33,670 --> 04:20:34,403
need them at some point.

5926
04:20:34,403 --> 04:20:35,105
I bet you're going to wish that

5927
04:20:35,105 --> 04:20:36,439
you paid a more when they come

5928
04:20:36,439 --> 04:20:38,839
to you including commentaries

5929
04:20:46,783 --> 04:20:47,251
and other First of all thank

5930
04:20:47,251 --> 04:20:49,251
you everyone for

5931
04:20:52,556 --> 04:20:53,189
the presentation and from

5932
04:20:53,189 --> 04:20:53,857
the union speakers and for

5933
04:20:53,857 --> 04:20:56,857
everyone who came out today.

5934
04:20:58,562 --> 04:21:00,562
Love you.

5935
04:21:03,434 --> 04:21:03,734
So a big question is how we

5936
04:21:03,734 --> 04:21:04,134
care.

5937
04:21:04,134 --> 04:21:06,134
Thank you.

5938
04:21:09,406 --> 04:21:10,474
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

5939
04:21:10,474 --> 04:21:14,674
how we care how we care about

5940
04:21:14,912 --> 04:21:18,512
our employees and how we care

5941
04:21:20,584 --> 04:21:23,584
about living within our means.

5942
04:21:25,455 --> 04:21:25,790
Thank you PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee

5943
04:21:25,790 --> 04:21:26,456
.

5944
04:21:26,456 --> 04:21:28,856
Policies and procedures too

5945
04:21:31,628 --> 04:21:33,628
many moving parts.

5946
04:21:36,233 --> 04:21:36,967
If one of our employees studied

5947
04:21:36,967 --> 04:21:39,367
those policies and procedures

5948
04:21:42,773 --> 04:21:43,541
would they understand them?

5949
04:21:43,541 --> 04:21:44,208
Would they be able to speak

5950
04:21:44,208 --> 04:21:47,711
them with us and figure them

5951
04:21:47,711 --> 04:21:48,244
out and say what's working and

5952
04:21:48,244 --> 04:21:50,244
what's not working?

5953
04:21:52,650 --> 04:21:53,384
I don't know.

5954
04:21:53,384 --> 04:21:56,384
Are they hindering the policies

5955
04:21:58,489 --> 04:22:00,489
and procedures?

5956
04:22:03,394 --> 04:22:04,940
Are they hindering us from

5957
04:22:04,940 --> 04:22:07,940
caring about our employees and

5958
04:22:08,998 --> 04:22:09,667
living within our means?

5959
04:22:09,667 --> 04:22:12,667
Can we even do both?

5960
04:22:13,904 --> 04:22:16,904
Isn't there a big question?

5961
04:22:20,578 --> 04:22:21,345
>> Let us share our stories and

5962
04:22:21,345 --> 04:22:22,120
let us stay together on this.

5963
04:22:22,120 --> 04:22:23,981
You can all comment.

5964
04:22:23,981 --> 04:22:24,582
The five minute timer has

5965
04:22:24,582 --> 04:22:25,315
concluded going to those

5966
04:22:25,315 --> 04:22:26,160
participating remotely starting

5967
04:22:26,160 --> 04:22:29,487
with Hector If you can please

5968
04:22:29,487 --> 04:22:30,221
unmute.

5969
04:22:30,221 --> 04:22:33,221
>> Thanks for taking my call.

5970
04:22:35,593 --> 04:22:36,359
I say get the firemen $20,000

5971
04:22:36,359 --> 04:22:40,331
raise for the new guys and then

5972
04:22:40,331 --> 04:22:41,199
we'll instrument the sales tax

5973
04:22:41,199 --> 04:22:44,199
program 10% In addition to all

5974
04:22:45,670 --> 04:22:46,370
the politicians in San Diego

5975
04:22:46,370 --> 04:22:49,370
and California who buy things

5976
04:22:49,941 --> 04:22:50,374
that stores and you'll be a

5977
04:22:50,374 --> 04:22:51,410
pilot program.

5978
04:22:51,410 --> 04:22:51,408
We'll see how that works for

5979
04:22:51,408 --> 04:22:53,408
you guys.

5980
04:22:55,846 --> 04:22:56,414
10% added to your sales tax to

5981
04:22:56,414 --> 04:22:59,414
pay for the raised for

5982
04:23:00,318 --> 04:23:01,180
the firemen And let's put 80

5983
04:23:01,180 --> 04:23:04,618
new units on the thing in

5984
04:23:05,550 --> 04:23:05,756
Mission Beach the fire the new

5985
04:23:05,756 --> 04:23:06,724
lifeguard tower will put two

5986
04:23:06,724 --> 04:23:10,924
eight units on top of it and

5987
04:23:11,729 --> 04:23:12,162
let the fire let the lifeguards

5988
04:23:12,162 --> 04:23:12,630
live in up.

5989
04:23:12,630 --> 04:23:14,630
It'll be great.

5990
04:23:16,100 --> 04:23:16,701
It'll be good recruiting thing

5991
04:23:16,701 --> 04:23:17,301
and let the firemen and

5992
04:23:17,301 --> 04:23:19,701
the lifeguards build it.

5993
04:23:21,838 --> 04:23:22,406
They can do it though.

5994
04:23:22,406 --> 04:23:23,241
Don't sub it out.

5995
04:23:23,241 --> 04:23:26,377
Let them build it will pay them

5996
04:23:26,377 --> 04:23:26,945
They know they can do the demo.

5997
04:23:26,945 --> 04:23:27,512
They can dig.

5998
04:23:27,512 --> 04:23:28,379
These guys have jobs.

5999
04:23:28,379 --> 04:23:31,379
They've caught some of our

6000
04:23:32,450 --> 04:23:33,283
contractors.

6001
04:23:33,283 --> 04:23:33,751
I know they can do it.

6002
04:23:33,751 --> 04:23:34,319
Let them do it.

6003
04:23:34,319 --> 04:23:36,719
Don't beat it up.

6004
04:23:37,689 --> 04:23:38,356
Some other guys will watch it.

6005
04:23:38,356 --> 04:23:39,570
Make sure they don't do

6006
04:23:39,570 --> 04:23:42,657
the gouges but it'll be great.

6007
04:23:43,494 --> 04:23:46,494
They'd like to 80 units We

6008
04:23:47,532 --> 04:23:48,399
could advertise in L.A. For

6009
04:23:48,399 --> 04:23:49,330
girls to come down here to live

6010
04:23:49,330 --> 04:23:52,330
in up to be lifeguards.

6011
04:23:52,871 --> 04:23:53,638
It's a no brainer.

6012
04:23:53,638 --> 04:23:57,809
Any woman in L.A. Would gladly

6013
04:23:57,809 --> 04:23:58,175
come to San Diego to be a

6014
04:23:58,175 --> 04:23:58,877
lifeguard.

6015
04:23:58,877 --> 04:23:59,443
I know some of those guys too.

6016
04:23:59,443 --> 04:24:01,843
That's what they did.

6017
04:24:03,214 --> 04:24:03,848
They don't want to stay in L.A.

6018
04:24:03,848 --> 04:24:04,215
The jungle they go there.

6019
04:24:04,215 --> 04:24:04,815
Thank you.

6020
04:24:04,815 --> 04:24:06,840
Your time has concluded.

6021
04:24:06,840 --> 04:24:08,840
Tony.

6022
04:24:10,955 --> 04:24:11,823
If you complete on you.

6023
04:24:11,823 --> 04:24:12,122
>> Hey, can you hear me?

6024
04:24:12,122 --> 04:24:14,122
Yes.

6025
04:24:16,928 --> 04:24:17,895
Please proceed.

6026
04:24:17,895 --> 04:24:18,562
>> I just wanted to say I've

6027
04:24:18,562 --> 04:24:20,962
been really inspired hearing

6028
04:24:21,699 --> 04:24:22,233
what everyone's been

6029
04:24:22,233 --> 04:24:22,634
contributing to this

6030
04:24:22,634 --> 04:24:23,367
discussion.

6031
04:24:23,367 --> 04:24:26,367
Thank you for the presentations

6032
04:24:26,403 --> 04:24:27,138
by the fire department and by

6033
04:24:27,138 --> 04:24:27,605
the firefighters excuse me By

6034
04:24:27,605 --> 04:24:29,605
your lifeguards.

6035
04:24:31,409 --> 04:24:32,210
I wanted to start by thanking

6036
04:24:32,210 --> 04:24:34,610
council member PRESIDENT Pro

6037
04:24:36,615 --> 04:24:37,315
Tem Kent Lee for reconsidering

6038
04:24:37,315 --> 04:24:40,915
your position on Floc as we're

6039
04:24:41,219 --> 04:24:41,653
having this discussion about

6040
04:24:41,653 --> 04:24:43,653
public safety.

6041
04:24:47,910 --> 04:24:47,592
Yes, Councilmember Campbell I

6042
04:24:47,592 --> 04:24:48,326
agree with you.

6043
04:24:48,326 --> 04:24:49,940
Public safety is number one but

6044
04:24:49,940 --> 04:24:52,300
we need to also consider smart

6045
04:24:52,300 --> 04:24:52,731
public safety.

6046
04:24:52,731 --> 04:24:53,640
Lifeguarding is smart public

6047
04:24:53,640 --> 04:24:53,764
safety.

6048
04:24:53,764 --> 04:24:56,764
Giving money to lifeguards is

6049
04:24:57,669 --> 04:24:58,436
smart Public safety giving

6050
04:24:58,436 --> 04:25:02,360
money to apps that are not

6051
04:25:02,774 --> 04:25:03,408
effective, that are targeting

6052
04:25:03,408 --> 04:25:03,942
the wrong people that are

6053
04:25:03,942 --> 04:25:05,942
causing us lawsuits.

6054
04:25:07,245 --> 04:25:07,946
3 million right now is what

6055
04:25:07,946 --> 04:25:10,946
the claim that's being sought

6056
04:25:11,249 --> 04:25:11,949
by the two people that were

6057
04:25:11,949 --> 04:25:14,949
falsely arrested by the flock

6058
04:25:15,720 --> 04:25:16,421
cameras as was reported

6059
04:25:16,421 --> 04:25:16,721
yesterday in the Times of San

6060
04:25:16,721 --> 04:25:17,455
Diego.

6061
04:25:17,455 --> 04:25:17,822
But I love what you said, MISS

6062
04:25:17,822 --> 04:25:19,822
Campbell.

6063
04:25:21,259 --> 04:25:22,270
I totally agree with you.

6064
04:25:22,270 --> 04:25:25,530
We do need to think about

6065
04:25:25,530 --> 04:25:26,163
having if we if we want to fund

6066
04:25:26,163 --> 04:25:26,832
these things that we want

6067
04:25:26,832 --> 04:25:30,432
funded, we need to have more

6068
04:25:31,503 --> 04:25:32,236
money coming from the state.

6069
04:25:32,236 --> 04:25:32,904
We can't just be collecting

6070
04:25:32,904 --> 04:25:35,640
this one center half it, you

6071
04:25:35,640 --> 04:25:36,308
know, like you were saying,

6072
04:25:36,308 --> 04:25:37,900
even collecting half a cent

6073
04:25:37,900 --> 04:25:40,900
more would be a substantial

6074
04:25:40,879 --> 04:25:41,245
increase from what we're seeing

6075
04:25:41,245 --> 04:25:41,914
right now.

6076
04:25:41,914 --> 04:25:42,314
So thanks everyone for your

6077
04:25:42,314 --> 04:25:44,314
input today.

6078
04:25:46,218 --> 04:25:46,718
Very well said.

6079
04:25:46,718 --> 04:25:47,285
>> Thank you.

6080
04:25:47,285 --> 04:25:49,685
Next is John Stump.

6081
04:25:50,689 --> 04:25:53,689
If you can please unmute.

6082
04:25:55,828 --> 04:25:56,204
>> Thank you very much, Counsel

6083
04:25:56,204 --> 04:25:56,895
.

6084
04:25:56,895 --> 04:26:00,495
>> You know in the police in

6085
04:26:01,633 --> 04:26:05,233
the fire, in the lifeguard they

6086
04:26:05,771 --> 04:26:06,672
all are seeking pay from and

6087
04:26:06,672 --> 04:26:09,720
receiving total compensation in

6088
04:26:11,743 --> 04:26:12,544
the area of a half million to a

6089
04:26:12,544 --> 04:26:15,544
quarter of a million per

6090
04:26:16,782 --> 04:26:17,349
employee.

6091
04:26:17,349 --> 04:26:17,783
That's the average.

6092
04:26:17,783 --> 04:26:19,783
You know it.

6093
04:26:21,353 --> 04:26:22,200
I know it.

6094
04:26:22,200 --> 04:26:24,420
How does that happen?

6095
04:26:26,258 --> 04:26:27,250
Because you've got overtime

6096
04:26:27,250 --> 04:26:30,625
being used to boost double pay.

6097
04:26:31,630 --> 04:26:31,830
Now what's the problem?

6098
04:26:31,830 --> 04:26:34,830
You need to find out.

6099
04:26:36,350 --> 04:26:39,350
Use equity and your equity

6100
04:26:40,972 --> 04:26:41,607
department to find out how many

6101
04:26:41,607 --> 04:26:42,240
employees live in District

6102
04:26:42,240 --> 04:26:44,640
eight, District nine and

6103
04:26:46,111 --> 04:26:48,511
District for our employees

6104
04:26:51,316 --> 04:26:51,984
leaving the city for greener

6105
04:26:51,984 --> 04:26:54,984
pastures to live in because

6106
04:26:56,721 --> 04:26:57,456
the schools are no good or the.

6107
04:26:57,456 --> 04:26:57,823
Don't they have pride in their

6108
04:26:57,823 --> 04:26:59,823
community?

6109
04:27:01,260 --> 04:27:04,296
We need to find out how many

6110
04:27:04,296 --> 04:27:04,796
are in Council district four,

6111
04:27:04,796 --> 04:27:05,563
eight and nine.

6112
04:27:05,563 --> 04:27:09,163
You know that old thing about

6113
04:27:09,435 --> 04:27:10,401
blacks not being able to swim

6114
04:27:10,401 --> 04:27:14,601
has been set up set aside by

6115
04:27:14,740 --> 04:27:17,740
Samoan Manuel and Cullen Jones.

6116
04:27:20,179 --> 04:27:20,880
Please give fair compensation

6117
04:27:20,880 --> 04:27:24,480
but don't do it with overtime

6118
04:27:25,351 --> 04:27:25,784
so they can live in Riverside.

6119
04:27:25,784 --> 04:27:26,185
>> Thank you.

6120
04:27:26,185 --> 04:27:26,852
Thank you.

6121
04:27:26,852 --> 04:27:29,252
That concludes your time.

6122
04:27:29,955 --> 04:27:30,589
The five minute timer has also

6123
04:27:30,589 --> 04:27:31,290
concluded Blair Wickman is

6124
04:27:31,290 --> 04:27:34,627
the last speaker in the queue.

6125
04:27:34,627 --> 04:27:35,127
Please proceed.

6126
04:27:35,127 --> 04:27:35,961
>> Thank you.

6127
04:27:35,961 --> 04:27:38,363
Blair Beekman Thank you for

6128
04:27:38,363 --> 04:27:41,963
the words as always from Tony

6129
04:27:43,335 --> 04:27:44,360
To add in our concerns that

6130
04:27:44,360 --> 04:27:44,570
public safety was life saving

6131
04:27:44,570 --> 04:27:46,570
and fire department.

6132
04:27:48,774 --> 04:27:49,308
They've recently moved over to

6133
04:27:49,308 --> 04:27:50,410
their technology and

6134
04:27:50,410 --> 04:27:50,409
surveillance tech moved over to

6135
04:27:50,409 --> 04:27:52,409
Jayhawks.

6136
04:27:53,779 --> 04:27:54,547
Where the data collection goes

6137
04:27:54,547 --> 04:27:57,682
I hope that the federal agency

6138
04:27:57,682 --> 04:27:58,830
there's separate from

6139
04:27:58,830 --> 04:27:58,851
the police.

6140
04:27:58,851 --> 04:28:02,540
I hope that we can be clear and

6141
04:28:02,540 --> 04:28:02,855
have clear conversations with

6142
04:28:02,855 --> 04:28:03,555
Jayhawks and not be afraid of

6143
04:28:03,555 --> 04:28:05,955
those conversations with data

6144
04:28:07,693 --> 04:28:08,461
collection technology.

6145
04:28:08,461 --> 04:28:12,610
With that said, good luck that

6146
04:28:12,432 --> 04:28:13,320
we can look for a new vendor

6147
04:28:13,320 --> 04:28:16,320
besides work by the way.

6148
04:28:16,802 --> 04:28:21,200
I wanted to comment that we are

6149
04:28:21,406 --> 04:28:25,600
out of time to really be

6150
04:28:26,512 --> 04:28:28,912
considering that well that

6151
04:28:30,550 --> 04:28:31,284
because you know this item is

6152
04:28:31,284 --> 04:28:31,883
saying that there's issues with

6153
04:28:31,883 --> 04:28:34,283
the technology and that

6154
04:28:36,222 --> 04:28:36,956
the technology will community

6155
04:28:36,956 --> 04:28:37,356
where people live in the center

6156
04:28:37,356 --> 04:28:39,356
communities.

6157
04:28:40,259 --> 04:28:43,259
Do you have good idea.

6158
04:28:45,698 --> 04:28:46,332
>> >> You seem to have cut off

6159
04:28:46,332 --> 04:28:46,665
That does conclude public

6160
04:28:46,665 --> 04:28:48,665
comment.

6161
04:28:50,169 --> 04:28:50,937
He did drop.

6162
04:28:50,937 --> 04:28:51,304
All right thank you city clerk

6163
04:28:51,304 --> 04:28:51,905
for that.

6164
04:28:51,905 --> 04:28:52,539
So there's one hour one

6165
04:28:52,539 --> 04:28:54,539
additional opportunity for

6166
04:28:55,240 --> 04:28:55,909
counsel to speak up again You

6167
04:28:55,909 --> 04:28:58,909
in there was pretty robust

6168
04:28:59,879 --> 04:29:00,547
conversation but council member

6169
04:29:00,547 --> 04:29:01,147
Eli Rivera Thank you Council

6170
04:29:01,147 --> 04:29:03,547
PRESIDENT It was robust.

6171
04:29:04,951 --> 04:29:09,151
>> I wanted to make sure that I

6172
04:29:09,189 --> 04:29:09,889
didn't add this part and I

6173
04:29:09,889 --> 04:29:10,423
think I appreciate some of my

6174
04:29:10,423 --> 04:29:12,423
colleagues comments.

6175
04:29:12,659 --> 04:29:15,659
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem in

6176
04:29:17,362 --> 04:29:18,640
particular This is just an

6177
04:29:18,640 --> 04:29:20,464
entirely unacceptable way for

6178
04:29:22,669 --> 04:29:23,536
San Diego to live it.

6179
04:29:23,536 --> 04:29:25,936
Obviously the firefighters and

6180
04:29:27,340 --> 04:29:28,207
lifeguards essentially coming

6181
04:29:28,207 --> 04:29:32,110
to council to beg that they be

6182
04:29:32,110 --> 04:29:32,779
compensated enough to not have

6183
04:29:32,779 --> 04:29:36,916
to leave a city that they love

6184
04:29:36,916 --> 04:29:37,516
or a career that they love.

6185
04:29:37,516 --> 04:29:38,218
That's unacceptable.

6186
04:29:38,218 --> 04:29:41,154
That should never be happening

6187
04:29:41,154 --> 04:29:45,354
in a city with the amount of

6188
04:29:45,692 --> 04:29:46,393
resources I mean that on a kind

6189
04:29:46,393 --> 04:29:47,600
of broad level like the amount

6190
04:29:47,600 --> 04:29:47,761
of money that flows through

6191
04:29:47,761 --> 04:29:50,763
this city, the amount of money

6192
04:29:50,763 --> 04:29:51,497
that's taken out of this city

6193
04:29:51,497 --> 04:29:54,497
that should never be happening.

6194
04:29:55,869 --> 04:29:56,569
There's a conversation that

6195
04:29:56,569 --> 04:30:00,169
quite frankly some of us are

6196
04:30:00,640 --> 04:30:01,407
playing into a time that that

6197
04:30:01,407 --> 04:30:05,700
belt can be tightened enough to

6198
04:30:05,478 --> 04:30:06,790
get to where we need to go And

6199
04:30:06,790 --> 04:30:09,790
it's it's just not real.

6200
04:30:10,282 --> 04:30:10,984
It's not real And not only is

6201
04:30:10,984 --> 04:30:11,684
is that not real the idea that

6202
04:30:11,684 --> 04:30:14,684
the general fund is something

6203
04:30:15,822 --> 04:30:16,122
to be terrified of is also not

6204
04:30:16,122 --> 04:30:18,122
real.

6205
04:30:20,660 --> 04:30:21,161
This is who is paid for what

6206
04:30:21,161 --> 04:30:21,862
the general fund.

6207
04:30:21,862 --> 04:30:25,462
These are the services that we

6208
04:30:25,499 --> 04:30:28,499
talked about fire lifeguards we

6209
04:30:29,836 --> 04:30:30,636
didn't hear from from mta but

6210
04:30:30,636 --> 04:30:33,636
everything that folks want and

6211
04:30:34,674 --> 04:30:35,375
need as residents

6212
04:30:35,375 --> 04:30:38,375
overwhelmingly is paid for out

6213
04:30:39,179 --> 04:30:39,846
of the general fund.

6214
04:30:39,846 --> 04:30:42,846
So until we either are

6215
04:30:44,170 --> 04:30:44,684
committed to taxing the wealthy

6216
04:30:44,684 --> 04:30:45,352
and making corporations and

6217
04:30:45,352 --> 04:30:48,352
Tories pay their fair share,

6218
04:30:48,889 --> 04:30:52,489
most of this is just platitudes

6219
04:30:53,527 --> 04:30:53,994
and I these folks deserve more

6220
04:30:53,994 --> 04:30:55,994
than platitudes.

6221
04:30:58,532 --> 04:30:59,265
The last thing I will say in

6222
04:30:59,265 --> 04:30:59,966
terms of the conversation about

6223
04:30:59,966 --> 04:31:02,366
lifeguards being public safety

6224
04:31:03,336 --> 04:31:04,104
employees the city is continue

6225
04:31:04,104 --> 04:31:07,104
to take a position that

6226
04:31:08,275 --> 04:31:11,275
lifeguards are not entitled to

6227
04:31:12,613 --> 04:31:13,280
presumptive coverage in a way

6228
04:31:13,280 --> 04:31:15,680
that matches police officers

6229
04:31:17,918 --> 04:31:20,918
and firefighters And I've said

6230
04:31:22,389 --> 04:31:23,890
it and others have now said it

6231
04:31:23,890 --> 04:31:26,827
both on the dais in public and

6232
04:31:26,827 --> 04:31:27,527
elsewhere that we think that

6233
04:31:27,527 --> 04:31:28,162
that is wrong, this idea that

6234
04:31:28,162 --> 04:31:31,162
they should have to prove

6235
04:31:31,699 --> 04:31:32,332
whether or not illness that

6236
04:31:32,332 --> 04:31:33,330
they caught from the storm

6237
04:31:33,330 --> 04:31:36,603
the storm water that they dove

6238
04:31:36,603 --> 04:31:39,603
into or other ailments that

6239
04:31:41,208 --> 04:31:42,900
they might be dealing with were

6240
04:31:42,900 --> 04:31:42,676
caused on the job is not a good

6241
04:31:42,676 --> 04:31:45,676
way to indicate that we

6242
04:31:46,313 --> 04:31:47,140
actually value their profession

6243
04:31:47,140 --> 04:31:50,140
as a public safety profession.

6244
04:31:50,551 --> 04:31:51,151
So I'm glad that we are

6245
04:31:51,151 --> 04:31:51,785
consistently standing in

6246
04:31:51,785 --> 04:31:54,185
support verbally of public

6247
04:31:55,622 --> 04:31:56,490
safety.

6248
04:31:56,490 --> 04:31:57,191
Where we have to do better is

6249
04:31:57,191 --> 04:31:59,591
the willingness to have

6250
04:32:00,427 --> 04:32:01,280
the conversation to resource

6251
04:32:01,280 --> 04:32:01,628
the city well enough to

6252
04:32:01,628 --> 04:32:04,280
actually make good on

6253
04:32:05,399 --> 04:32:05,832
the requests that they're

6254
04:32:05,832 --> 04:32:06,500
making to us.

6255
04:32:06,500 --> 04:32:07,167
And I know we'll talk more

6256
04:32:07,167 --> 04:32:10,167
about this tomorrow as well.

6257
04:32:10,370 --> 04:32:11,104
Council PRESIDENT But I just it

6258
04:32:11,104 --> 04:32:11,805
bothers me immensely because we

6259
04:32:11,805 --> 04:32:14,805
shouldn't be living this way.

6260
04:32:16,100 --> 04:32:16,376
Thank you.

6261
04:32:16,376 --> 04:32:16,777
All right.

6262
04:32:16,777 --> 04:32:17,478
Thank you.

6263
04:32:17,478 --> 04:32:18,212
The member Eli Rivera will go

6264
04:32:18,212 --> 04:32:19,646
right to council member Von

6265
04:32:19,646 --> 04:32:20,114
Wolpert.

6266
04:32:20,114 --> 04:32:20,881
Thank you.

6267
04:32:20,881 --> 04:32:21,548
I also want to ask some

6268
04:32:21,548 --> 04:32:23,548
questions about recruitment

6269
04:32:24,552 --> 04:32:25,219
because you talked a bit about

6270
04:32:25,219 --> 04:32:25,920
retention today But you know

6271
04:32:25,920 --> 04:32:28,920
cutting the academy I mean

6272
04:32:30,257 --> 04:32:30,958
the cadet program is shooting

6273
04:32:30,958 --> 04:32:31,659
us in the foot because it is

6274
04:32:31,659 --> 04:32:34,127
such a great recruitment tool.

6275
04:32:34,127 --> 04:32:34,628
Same thing with the Women's

6276
04:32:34,628 --> 04:32:35,229
Fire Prep Academy.

6277
04:32:35,229 --> 04:32:35,930
We've gotten many, many

6278
04:32:35,930 --> 04:32:38,330
qualified firefighters out of

6279
04:32:38,733 --> 04:32:39,500
that academy as well.

6280
04:32:39,500 --> 04:32:40,201
But I guess my question is

6281
04:32:40,201 --> 04:32:43,671
citywide, you know, why do we

6282
04:32:43,671 --> 04:32:44,538
leave it to each department to

6283
04:32:44,538 --> 04:32:45,172
have to figure out how to do

6284
04:32:45,172 --> 04:32:45,840
recruitment on their own?

6285
04:32:45,840 --> 04:32:48,840
We have an entire personnel

6286
04:32:49,276 --> 04:32:49,676
department, entire H.R.

6287
04:32:49,676 --> 04:32:50,311
Department.

6288
04:32:50,311 --> 04:32:50,911
Obviously firefighters are

6289
04:32:50,911 --> 04:32:51,312
the best ambassadors to

6290
04:32:51,312 --> 04:32:51,945
the public.

6291
04:32:51,945 --> 04:32:54,315
You should be involved in

6292
04:32:54,315 --> 04:32:54,915
recruiting people.

6293
04:32:54,915 --> 04:32:55,850
That makes total sense.

6294
04:32:55,850 --> 04:32:58,986
But you know, I see David

6295
04:32:58,986 --> 04:32:59,654
delgado here.

6296
04:32:59,654 --> 04:33:00,254
You've done an excellent job

6297
04:33:00,254 --> 04:33:00,955
reforming the personnel

6298
04:33:00,955 --> 04:33:03,355
department and getting people

6299
04:33:03,357 --> 04:33:04,910
through but are there thoughts

6300
04:33:04,910 --> 04:33:08,620
that you have on how we could

6301
04:33:08,620 --> 04:33:08,695
relieve the burden on just

6302
04:33:08,695 --> 04:33:09,362
the fire department, just

6303
04:33:09,362 --> 04:33:09,763
the lifeguards do their own

6304
04:33:09,763 --> 04:33:10,498
recruitment.

6305
04:33:10,498 --> 04:33:12,934
We as a city could help support

6306
04:33:12,934 --> 04:33:13,600
them in their efforts And you

6307
04:33:13,600 --> 04:33:14,335
have done an excellent job,

6308
04:33:14,335 --> 04:33:15,200
sir, in reforming the personnel

6309
04:33:15,200 --> 04:33:17,204
department And I'm very glad

6310
04:33:17,204 --> 04:33:18,390
that you're here.

6311
04:33:18,390 --> 04:33:18,472
>> No, thank you so much for

6312
04:33:18,472 --> 04:33:19,239
the question.

6313
04:33:19,239 --> 04:33:22,376
First of all, I think it is

6314
04:33:22,376 --> 04:33:23,770
really important to have

6315
04:33:23,770 --> 04:33:23,777
the departments as a part of

6316
04:33:23,777 --> 04:33:26,177
the recruitment phase because

6317
04:33:26,914 --> 04:33:27,781
seeing these real life heroes

6318
04:33:27,781 --> 04:33:28,482
go out there and talk to

6319
04:33:28,482 --> 04:33:32,530
people, it really gets them in

6320
04:33:32,530 --> 04:33:32,754
the mood and really want to

6321
04:33:32,754 --> 04:33:33,454
join the city because they're

6322
04:33:33,454 --> 04:33:34,155
going to see the good they get

6323
04:33:34,155 --> 04:33:36,624
to bring in And we are working

6324
04:33:36,624 --> 04:33:37,580
on a lot of things to lower

6325
04:33:37,580 --> 04:33:37,724
the barriers.

6326
04:33:37,724 --> 04:33:40,124
Obviously we've talked about

6327
04:33:40,927 --> 04:33:41,796
that a lot here lately.

6328
04:33:41,796 --> 04:33:42,496
I'll give you a few examples.

6329
04:33:42,496 --> 04:33:44,465
We've worked with the chief's

6330
04:33:44,465 --> 04:33:46,865
office to remove testing

6331
04:33:49,270 --> 04:33:49,970
requirements and bring in house

6332
04:33:49,970 --> 04:33:50,638
training programs so that they

6333
04:33:50,638 --> 04:33:50,938
don't have to go through our

6334
04:33:50,938 --> 04:33:52,938
tests.

6335
04:33:54,542 --> 04:33:55,243
The physical abilities test,

6336
04:33:55,243 --> 04:33:55,943
stuff like that so that they

6337
04:33:55,943 --> 04:33:58,343
can be certified automatically

6338
04:33:59,747 --> 04:34:00,381
to lists allowing for people

6339
04:34:00,381 --> 04:34:01,115
who have passed their test

6340
04:34:01,115 --> 04:34:04,552
before to be certified as well.

6341
04:34:04,552 --> 04:34:05,220
So we are trying to bring down

6342
04:34:05,220 --> 04:34:05,853
the barriers In addition in

6343
04:34:05,853 --> 04:34:08,253
that looking forward we're

6344
04:34:09,624 --> 04:34:10,324
going to be doing more than one

6345
04:34:10,324 --> 04:34:13,324
fire recruit academy each year

6346
04:34:13,728 --> 04:34:14,429
So we're going to be doing two

6347
04:34:14,429 --> 04:34:14,963
recruitments now So we're open

6348
04:34:14,963 --> 04:34:16,963
to any suggestions.

6349
04:34:18,433 --> 04:34:19,133
We work closely with the fire

6350
04:34:19,133 --> 04:34:19,967
department and with the areas

6351
04:34:19,967 --> 04:34:23,571
but we do need them a part of

6352
04:34:23,571 --> 04:34:24,105
the process because they're our

6353
04:34:24,105 --> 04:34:24,439
best selling point.

6354
04:34:24,439 --> 04:34:26,439
Agreed.

6355
04:34:28,243 --> 04:34:28,876
I mean I'm thinking along

6356
04:34:28,876 --> 04:34:29,577
the lines of you had that

6357
04:34:29,577 --> 04:34:32,577
fantastic hiring you fair that

6358
04:34:32,714 --> 04:34:33,515
you guys did would tons of

6359
04:34:33,515 --> 04:34:37,385
people came out Is there a way

6360
04:34:37,385 --> 04:34:38,119
that you could help facilitate

6361
04:34:38,119 --> 04:34:38,753
that and they could Obviously

6362
04:34:38,753 --> 04:34:39,454
we need firefighters to be

6363
04:34:39,454 --> 04:34:42,656
there to be the ambassadors of

6364
04:34:42,656 --> 04:34:43,291
department but they're trying

6365
04:34:43,291 --> 04:34:43,625
to fight fires and rescue

6366
04:34:43,625 --> 04:34:44,358
people.

6367
04:34:44,358 --> 04:34:45,590
You know, they don't need to do

6368
04:34:45,590 --> 04:34:47,695
all the administrative work to

6369
04:34:47,695 --> 04:34:48,463
set these things up.

6370
04:34:48,463 --> 04:34:48,996
You could help with that and

6371
04:34:48,996 --> 04:34:49,698
not you personally.

6372
04:34:49,698 --> 04:34:50,398
I'm just saying your excellent

6373
04:34:50,398 --> 04:34:52,500
department could and then they

6374
04:34:52,500 --> 04:34:53,367
could come know Absolutely.

6375
04:34:53,367 --> 04:34:57,339
And so we've done a couple of

6376
04:34:57,339 --> 04:34:58,390
those hiring halls We are

6377
04:34:58,390 --> 04:34:58,706
moving forward with what we

6378
04:34:58,706 --> 04:35:01,706
call the Chief Logan Fire

6379
04:35:02,777 --> 04:35:03,545
recruit Hiring Hall So what we

6380
04:35:03,545 --> 04:35:07,349
do with that is when they do

6381
04:35:07,349 --> 04:35:08,830
have new hires we go to A.C. Do

6382
04:35:08,830 --> 04:35:10,483
the fingerprinting, the medical

6383
04:35:11,653 --> 04:35:12,520
schedule, everything for them.

6384
04:35:12,520 --> 04:35:13,121
So they're at a fire facility.

6385
04:35:13,121 --> 04:35:13,487
They don't have to come

6386
04:35:13,487 --> 04:35:14,189
downtown.

6387
04:35:14,189 --> 04:35:16,390
They don't have to pay for

6388
04:35:16,390 --> 04:35:17,920
parking.

6389
04:35:17,920 --> 04:35:17,392
So we are definitely doing

6390
04:35:17,392 --> 04:35:18,125
that.

6391
04:35:18,125 --> 04:35:21,362
And one of the issues right now

6392
04:35:21,362 --> 04:35:22,630
with hiring halls is if we

6393
04:35:22,630 --> 04:35:22,731
aren't hiring people, we don't

6394
04:35:22,731 --> 04:35:26,331
want to put out the false

6395
04:35:26,334 --> 04:35:26,635
perception of hey, come on down

6396
04:35:26,635 --> 04:35:27,368
here.

6397
04:35:27,368 --> 04:35:28,136
We have a whole lot of jobs

6398
04:35:28,136 --> 04:35:30,572
available when when we MAY or

6399
04:35:30,572 --> 04:35:31,306
MAY not So but absolutely we're

6400
04:35:31,306 --> 04:35:35,276
happy to do any of those hiring

6401
04:35:35,276 --> 04:35:35,944
fairs and whatever the chief or

6402
04:35:35,944 --> 04:35:36,611
or either one of the chiefs

6403
04:35:36,611 --> 04:35:36,912
need, we're always happy to

6404
04:35:36,912 --> 04:35:38,912
help.

6405
04:35:39,981 --> 04:35:40,648
Okay.

6406
04:35:40,648 --> 04:35:41,149
>> Thank you very much.

6407
04:35:41,149 --> 04:35:41,516
I appreciate it.

6408
04:35:41,516 --> 04:35:43,516
Thank you.

6409
04:35:44,820 --> 04:35:45,320
Okay.

6410
04:35:45,320 --> 04:35:46,210
All right.

6411
04:35:46,210 --> 04:35:46,655
Figured COUNCILMAN Ron Wolpert

6412
04:35:46,655 --> 04:35:49,391
not seeing anybody else on

6413
04:35:49,391 --> 04:35:50,158
the lights.

6414
04:35:50,158 --> 04:35:51,590
I'll thank you all for both

6415
04:35:51,590 --> 04:35:54,363
the presentation and all of you

6416
04:35:54,363 --> 04:35:55,630
for turning out both areas

6417
04:35:55,630 --> 04:35:58,630
taking the time to take

6418
04:35:59,401 --> 04:35:59,967
advantage of this moment while

6419
04:35:59,967 --> 04:36:00,335
negotiations are going

6420
04:36:00,335 --> 04:36:01,300
underway.

6421
04:36:01,300 --> 04:36:04,500
I think you made your points

6422
04:36:04,500 --> 04:36:04,773
very effectively.

6423
04:36:04,773 --> 04:36:08,373
I think you heard some support

6424
04:36:08,944 --> 04:36:09,644
across the entire Dyess here to

6425
04:36:09,644 --> 04:36:12,644
be candid how that translates

6426
04:36:13,782 --> 04:36:14,382
into negotiating contracts

6427
04:36:14,382 --> 04:36:15,183
remains to be seen.

6428
04:36:15,183 --> 04:36:15,551
But I think you guys did a

6429
04:36:15,551 --> 04:36:16,284
great job.

6430
04:36:16,284 --> 04:36:18,387
I think it was worth your time

6431
04:36:18,387 --> 04:36:18,686
to come down here and make your

6432
04:36:18,686 --> 04:36:19,187
case.

6433
04:36:19,187 --> 04:36:21,187
>> So well done.

6434
04:36:27,728 --> 04:36:28,960
All right.

6435
04:36:28,960 --> 04:36:30,960
All right.

6436
04:36:32,334 --> 04:36:34,334
With that.

6437
04:36:36,105 --> 04:36:36,939
Clerk Please introduce item 641

6438
04:36:36,939 --> 04:36:37,672
Item 641 is the repeal Balboa

6439
04:36:37,672 --> 04:36:41,272
Park paid parking user fee If

6440
04:36:41,276 --> 04:36:41,976
you're here for this item

6441
04:36:41,976 --> 04:36:42,643
please be sure to submit your

6442
04:36:42,643 --> 04:36:45,847
speakers up to the front of

6443
04:36:45,847 --> 04:36:46,515
the room in the clear box and

6444
04:36:46,515 --> 04:36:47,148
if you are participating

6445
04:36:47,148 --> 04:36:47,816
remotely now's the time to

6446
04:36:47,816 --> 04:36:49,184
raise your hand by pressing

6447
04:36:49,184 --> 04:36:49,551
Star nine or the raise your

6448
04:36:49,551 --> 04:36:51,551
hand icon.

6449
04:36:55,124 --> 04:36:55,991
>> Thank you Council President

6450
04:36:55,991 --> 04:37:00,191
All right I'm going to get men

6451
04:37:03,232 --> 04:37:07,432
are two for these good folks to

6452
04:37:09,471 --> 04:37:10,105
actually I can tell you as well

6453
04:37:10,105 --> 04:37:11,206
discipline that's quite as

6454
04:37:11,206 --> 04:37:12,600
crowd you ever seen except

6455
04:37:12,600 --> 04:37:15,606
the two chambers So we're going

6456
04:37:16,440 --> 04:37:16,712
to turn this over to council

6457
04:37:16,712 --> 04:37:17,413
member Whitburn to introduce

6458
04:37:17,413 --> 04:37:21,130
the item and you can introduce

6459
04:37:21,160 --> 04:37:21,316
your staff Sir Thank you very

6460
04:37:21,316 --> 04:37:21,951
much.

6461
04:37:21,951 --> 04:37:24,351
Council PRESIDENT I bring

6462
04:37:25,620 --> 04:37:26,322
forward today's action to

6463
04:37:26,322 --> 04:37:26,622
repeal paid parking at Balboa

6464
04:37:26,622 --> 04:37:27,323
Park.

6465
04:37:27,323 --> 04:37:29,723
This action formally approves

6466
04:37:31,600 --> 04:37:31,660
part of the negotiated

6467
04:37:31,660 --> 04:37:32,327
settlement that the City

6468
04:37:32,327 --> 04:37:34,727
Council supported in closed

6469
04:37:35,264 --> 04:37:35,998
session last month.

6470
04:37:35,998 --> 04:37:36,732
The settlement ends an effort

6471
04:37:36,732 --> 04:37:39,935
to repeal the city's trash fees

6472
04:37:39,935 --> 04:37:40,703
through a ballot measure.

6473
04:37:40,703 --> 04:37:41,504
If that effort had been

6474
04:37:41,504 --> 04:37:44,140
successful it would have cost

6475
04:37:44,140 --> 04:37:44,807
the city nearly $150 billion in

6476
04:37:44,807 --> 04:37:45,107
revenue for two consecutive

6477
04:37:45,107 --> 04:37:47,107
years.

6478
04:37:50,345 --> 04:37:51,800
So negotiate the settlement.

6479
04:37:51,800 --> 04:37:51,647
I worked with Michael Zucker,

6480
04:37:51,647 --> 04:37:52,281
the general manager of

6481
04:37:52,281 --> 04:37:54,281
the Mississippi Employers

6482
04:37:54,617 --> 04:37:55,318
Association and we built upon

6483
04:37:55,318 --> 04:37:55,684
an earlier work by the council

6484
04:37:55,684 --> 04:37:57,684
PRESIDENT.

6485
04:37:59,487 --> 04:38:00,880
The settlement has to be two

6486
04:38:00,880 --> 04:38:00,722
components reduction in

6487
04:38:00,722 --> 04:38:03,722
the city's trash fees and

6488
04:38:03,859 --> 04:38:04,259
the repeal of paid parking at

6489
04:38:04,259 --> 04:38:04,960
Balboa Park.

6490
04:38:04,960 --> 04:38:05,661
The first item we'll hear this

6491
04:38:05,661 --> 04:38:08,610
afternoon repeals paid parking

6492
04:38:08,564 --> 04:38:09,198
could double apart.

6493
04:38:09,198 --> 04:38:09,765
The next item will reduce

6494
04:38:09,765 --> 04:38:12,165
the city's trash fees.

6495
04:38:14,270 --> 04:38:15,400
Today I have two new updates

6496
04:38:15,400 --> 04:38:18,604
the repeal of paid parking good

6497
04:38:18,641 --> 04:38:19,508
Balboa Park.

6498
04:38:19,508 --> 04:38:20,176
First it will apply not only to

6499
04:38:20,176 --> 04:38:23,776
the parking lots but also to

6500
04:38:23,880 --> 04:38:24,547
street parking.

6501
04:38:24,547 --> 04:38:25,314
The city will restore free

6502
04:38:25,314 --> 04:38:28,284
parking both in the lots and on

6503
04:38:28,284 --> 04:38:28,951
the streets in Balboa Park And

6504
04:38:28,951 --> 04:38:31,951
second for people who bought

6505
04:38:32,621 --> 04:38:33,321
annual parking passes the city

6506
04:38:33,321 --> 04:38:33,990
will refund any portion of

6507
04:38:33,990 --> 04:38:34,556
the pass that extends beyond

6508
04:38:34,556 --> 04:38:37,556
the end of this year.

6509
04:38:38,940 --> 04:38:38,761
That's because parking will be

6510
04:38:38,761 --> 04:38:39,495
free for everybody by that.

6511
04:38:39,495 --> 04:38:41,960
And with that I will turn it

6512
04:38:41,960 --> 04:38:43,866
over to my chief of staff Jacob

6513
04:38:43,866 --> 04:38:46,866
o'Neill to present the item.

6514
04:38:49,380 --> 04:38:49,772
Good afternoon.

6515
04:38:49,772 --> 04:38:52,772
>> This proposal comes as part

6516
04:38:53,743 --> 04:38:54,444
of a larger negotiated

6517
04:38:54,444 --> 04:38:55,144
compromise regarding the solid

6518
04:38:55,144 --> 04:38:58,144
waste management fee that also

6519
04:38:58,647 --> 04:38:59,348
incorporated this proposed

6520
04:38:59,348 --> 04:38:59,848
repeal of the Balboa Park paid

6521
04:38:59,848 --> 04:39:01,848
parking user fee.

6522
04:39:03,786 --> 04:39:04,453
Councilmember Whitman presented

6523
04:39:04,453 --> 04:39:05,154
the negotiated compromise at

6524
04:39:05,154 --> 04:39:07,991
City Council closed session on

6525
04:39:07,991 --> 04:39:08,725
MAY 28th, 2026 where it was

6526
04:39:08,725 --> 04:39:11,125
approved for consideration here

6527
04:39:12,395 --> 04:39:13,162
in open session.

6528
04:39:13,162 --> 04:39:13,830
>> This item seeks approval to

6529
04:39:13,830 --> 04:39:16,830
rebuild the Balboa Park paid

6530
04:39:17,900 --> 04:39:18,534
parking program with been

6531
04:39:18,534 --> 04:39:19,168
within Balboa Park making

6532
04:39:19,168 --> 04:39:21,568
parking free for everyone

6533
04:39:26,509 --> 04:39:27,277
effective JANUARY 1st, 2027.

6534
04:39:27,277 --> 04:39:30,277
>> There are three types of

6535
04:39:31,714 --> 04:39:32,482
paid parking within Balboa Park

6536
04:39:32,482 --> 04:39:32,815
where meters or a kiosk will be

6537
04:39:32,815 --> 04:39:34,815
removed.

6538
04:39:36,520 --> 04:39:36,719
The first is the surface lots

6539
04:39:36,719 --> 04:39:39,719
parking meter kiosk will be

6540
04:39:40,856 --> 04:39:44,456
removed and all surface lots in

6541
04:39:44,627 --> 04:39:45,610
the park including a number of

6542
04:39:45,610 --> 04:39:45,895
surface lots.

6543
04:39:45,895 --> 04:39:48,895
Oregon Pavilion Casa de Balboa

6544
04:39:49,599 --> 04:39:50,300
Upper inspiration Point and

6545
04:39:50,300 --> 04:39:50,800
lower inspiration point along

6546
04:39:50,800 --> 04:39:53,200
with a few others.

6547
04:39:54,738 --> 04:39:55,438
The next areas that will

6548
04:39:55,438 --> 04:39:59,380
the kiosk will be removed are

6549
04:39:59,609 --> 04:40:00,310
on park Street locations.

6550
04:40:00,310 --> 04:40:03,310
Parking meters kiosks will be

6551
04:40:03,646 --> 04:40:04,381
removed on all park Street

6552
04:40:04,381 --> 04:40:05,810
locations including PRESIDENT's

6553
04:40:05,810 --> 04:40:08,810
Way Village place Balboa Drive

6554
04:40:09,219 --> 04:40:09,653
El Prado Kincaid Drive and

6555
04:40:09,653 --> 04:40:11,653
Juniper Road.

6556
04:40:13,556 --> 04:40:14,240
And then the third portion is

6557
04:40:14,240 --> 04:40:16,240
Park Boulevard.

6558
04:40:18,562 --> 04:40:18,962
There is metered parking there

6559
04:40:18,962 --> 04:40:19,663
like kiosk.

6560
04:40:19,663 --> 04:40:20,230
There's 46 parking meters that

6561
04:40:20,230 --> 04:40:22,630
were installed in Park

6562
04:40:23,466 --> 04:40:24,134
Boulevard is subject to

6563
04:40:24,134 --> 04:40:26,534
the mayoral authority under

6564
04:40:27,570 --> 04:40:28,238
council policy 20 dash 200 dash

6565
04:40:28,238 --> 04:40:29,873
zero four And the mayor has

6566
04:40:29,873 --> 04:40:32,873
agreed to remove all 46 parking

6567
04:40:35,450 --> 04:40:35,745
meters on Park Boulevard.

6568
04:40:35,745 --> 04:40:36,445
>> The item also asks that

6569
04:40:36,445 --> 04:40:38,845
the Treasurer's office stop

6570
04:40:40,116 --> 04:40:43,716
selling passes in order to not

6571
04:40:44,187 --> 04:40:44,887
sell any passes that will go

6572
04:40:44,887 --> 04:40:46,887
beyond DECEMBER 31st 2026.

6573
04:40:48,658 --> 04:40:49,392
Currently there are three types

6574
04:40:49,392 --> 04:40:52,392
of passes yearly, quarterly and

6575
04:40:53,563 --> 04:40:54,264
monthly and this action asked

6576
04:40:54,264 --> 04:40:57,264
that yearly passes stop being

6577
04:40:58,135 --> 04:40:58,835
sold Basically after today so

6578
04:40:58,835 --> 04:41:02,139
that there will be no refunds

6579
04:41:02,139 --> 04:41:02,439
due after the first of the year

6580
04:41:02,439 --> 04:41:03,400
.

6581
04:41:03,400 --> 04:41:03,707
It also asked that

6582
04:41:03,707 --> 04:41:06,107
the quarterly passes stopped

6583
04:41:08,278 --> 04:41:11,278
being sold after SEPTEMBER 30th

6584
04:41:12,515 --> 04:41:13,216
of 2026 so that the quarterly

6585
04:41:13,216 --> 04:41:13,917
passes will not go beyond

6586
04:41:13,917 --> 04:41:17,187
the first of the year and that

6587
04:41:17,187 --> 04:41:17,887
monthly passes stop being sold

6588
04:41:17,887 --> 04:41:19,155
on NOVEMBER 30th 2026 so that

6589
04:41:19,155 --> 04:41:22,755
they will also be done by

6590
04:41:24,695 --> 04:41:25,395
the end of the year.

6591
04:41:25,395 --> 04:41:28,395
The annual passes that have

6592
04:41:29,333 --> 04:41:30,660
previously been sold will be

6593
04:41:30,660 --> 04:41:33,660
refunded and a prorated portion

6594
04:41:34,104 --> 04:41:34,705
for all purchased annual passes

6595
04:41:34,705 --> 04:41:35,205
that remain unused as of

6596
04:41:35,205 --> 04:41:37,205
JANUARY 1st, 2027.

6597
04:41:38,808 --> 04:41:39,610
So if you bought it in FEBRUARY

6598
04:41:39,610 --> 04:41:40,343
of this year and went on

6599
04:41:40,343 --> 04:41:40,944
FEBRUARY of next year you'll be

6600
04:41:40,944 --> 04:41:43,344
refunded for the person

6601
04:41:46,650 --> 04:41:46,991
the portion beyond JANUARY 1st

6602
04:41:46,991 --> 04:41:48,991
.

6603
04:41:51,870 --> 04:41:51,789
>> Parking revenues for fy 2027

6604
04:41:51,789 --> 04:41:54,625
from park user fees were

6605
04:41:54,625 --> 04:41:55,292
projected at 4.4 million and

6606
04:41:55,292 --> 04:41:57,692
the mayor's proposed budget

6607
04:41:59,950 --> 04:41:59,395
working with the eBay and City

6608
04:41:59,395 --> 04:42:00,970
staff.

6609
04:42:00,970 --> 04:42:03,970
Revenues are now projected to

6610
04:42:03,100 --> 04:42:03,801
be higher for f y 2027 monthly

6611
04:42:03,801 --> 04:42:06,801
actual revenues from MARCH to

6612
04:42:07,770 --> 04:42:08,639
MAY have been coming in much

6613
04:42:08,639 --> 04:42:12,309
higher And as you can see from

6614
04:42:12,309 --> 04:42:13,310
the chart on the that the eBay

6615
04:42:13,310 --> 04:42:17,510
has helped create for us we are

6616
04:42:20,350 --> 04:42:22,350
now projecting 3.9 million

6617
04:42:24,788 --> 04:42:25,655
through DECEMBER 31st, 2026 and

6618
04:42:25,655 --> 04:42:28,425
at 3.9 million will still be a

6619
04:42:28,425 --> 04:42:29,590
little bit short of the 4.4

6620
04:42:29,590 --> 04:42:29,760
million that was budgeted.

6621
04:42:29,760 --> 04:42:32,760
But you can also see

6622
04:42:33,397 --> 04:42:34,970
the expenditures the enhanced

6623
04:42:34,970 --> 04:42:34,798
services for the tram will no

6624
04:42:34,798 --> 04:42:37,701
longer be needed for the rest

6625
04:42:37,701 --> 04:42:38,335
of the year for the final six

6626
04:42:38,335 --> 04:42:41,335
months of the fiscal year.

6627
04:42:42,139 --> 04:42:43,400
So that would actually save

6628
04:42:43,400 --> 04:42:45,400
$480,000 which combined with

6629
04:42:47,478 --> 04:42:48,178
the revenues will be basically

6630
04:42:48,178 --> 04:42:49,980
no impact for the 2027 fiscal

6631
04:42:49,980 --> 04:42:54,180
year and that you guys will be

6632
04:42:54,952 --> 04:42:55,653
voting on tomorrow.

6633
04:42:55,653 --> 04:42:58,530
>> So this proposed action

6634
04:42:59,723 --> 04:43:00,424
asked to repeal the previously

6635
04:43:00,424 --> 04:43:02,824
passed resolutions to approve

6636
04:43:05,129 --> 04:43:05,863
the parks user fee revisions to

6637
04:43:05,863 --> 04:43:08,863
authorize the City Treasurer to

6638
04:43:09,500 --> 04:43:10,201
discontinue issuing passes to

6639
04:43:10,201 --> 04:43:12,601
authorize the Treasurer to

6640
04:43:14,639 --> 04:43:15,305
refund the prorated passes

6641
04:43:15,305 --> 04:43:15,940
going beyond the first of

6642
04:43:15,940 --> 04:43:18,940
the year and also directed

6643
04:43:19,677 --> 04:43:20,378
the Department of Finance to

6644
04:43:20,378 --> 04:43:23,978
amend the rate book to remove

6645
04:43:23,981 --> 04:43:24,615
any mention of pro program in

6646
04:43:24,615 --> 04:43:27,150
Balboa Park parking fees.

6647
04:43:29,353 --> 04:43:30,860
So with that.

6648
04:43:30,860 --> 04:43:30,421
Any questions on the fiscal

6649
04:43:30,421 --> 04:43:31,870
impacts?

6650
04:43:31,870 --> 04:43:34,424
The idea I think is here to

6651
04:43:34,424 --> 04:43:34,891
answer and any questions on

6652
04:43:34,891 --> 04:43:35,593
the settlement.

6653
04:43:35,593 --> 04:43:35,960
Councilmember Whitman is here

6654
04:43:35,960 --> 04:43:37,960
to answer.

6655
04:43:38,963 --> 04:43:39,563
We in fact will go to

6656
04:43:39,563 --> 04:43:39,864
the office of the aba.

6657
04:43:39,864 --> 04:43:40,231
Great.

6658
04:43:40,231 --> 04:43:40,730
Thank you.

6659
04:43:40,730 --> 04:43:41,399
Council PRESIDENT.

6660
04:43:41,399 --> 04:43:43,301
Thank you, Jacob for

6661
04:43:43,301 --> 04:43:44,167
the presentation.

6662
04:43:44,167 --> 04:43:48,305
I just wanted to note as you

6663
04:43:48,305 --> 04:43:49,106
heard there will be limited

6664
04:43:49,106 --> 04:43:49,807
impacts on the f y 27 budget

6665
04:43:49,807 --> 04:43:52,207
which you're hearing tomorrow

6666
04:43:53,277 --> 04:43:53,978
associated with this action

6667
04:43:53,978 --> 04:43:54,579
provided the paid parking does

6668
04:43:54,579 --> 04:43:56,979
remain in effect through

6669
04:43:57,415 --> 04:43:58,149
the end of this calendar year

6670
04:43:58,149 --> 04:43:58,783
As you heard, that's because

6671
04:43:58,783 --> 04:44:01,183
paid parking revenue over

6672
04:44:02,386 --> 04:44:02,953
the last several months has

6673
04:44:02,953 --> 04:44:03,588
significantly exceeded

6674
04:44:03,588 --> 04:44:04,287
the projections that were

6675
04:44:04,287 --> 04:44:06,390
included in the project or in

6676
04:44:06,390 --> 04:44:07,900
the proposed budget.

6677
04:44:07,900 --> 04:44:07,725
That means that the net impact

6678
04:44:07,725 --> 04:44:08,426
of removing half a year is

6679
04:44:08,426 --> 04:44:11,426
largely covered by bringing in

6680
04:44:11,495 --> 04:44:12,196
more revenue than expected

6681
04:44:12,196 --> 04:44:12,664
during the first six months of

6682
04:44:12,664 --> 04:44:13,330
the fiscal year.

6683
04:44:13,330 --> 04:44:16,930
I do want to highlight that

6684
04:44:17,168 --> 04:44:17,735
there MAY be impacts on revenue

6685
04:44:17,735 --> 04:44:18,403
from the zero that is

6686
04:44:18,403 --> 04:44:20,803
associated with a recent 44

6687
04:44:22,106 --> 04:44:22,774
year lease extension while

6688
04:44:22,774 --> 04:44:23,508
those years minimum payment

6689
04:44:23,508 --> 04:44:24,175
called for in the lease will go

6690
04:44:24,175 --> 04:44:24,609
away with the termination of

6691
04:44:24,609 --> 04:44:26,609
paid parking.

6692
04:44:27,145 --> 04:44:27,478
The 5050 revenue split will

6693
04:44:27,478 --> 04:44:29,478
remain.

6694
04:44:31,315 --> 04:44:32,830
We are working to evaluate any

6695
04:44:32,830 --> 04:44:32,450
potential impacts for our fy 27

6696
04:44:32,450 --> 04:44:34,450
right now.

6697
04:44:35,787 --> 04:44:36,490
That said, while the overall

6698
04:44:36,490 --> 04:44:37,221
impact to the upcoming fiscal

6699
04:44:37,221 --> 04:44:40,691
year are minor, it's also worth

6700
04:44:40,691 --> 04:44:41,491
acknowledging that this means

6701
04:44:41,491 --> 04:44:42,460
that there will be less revenue

6702
04:44:42,460 --> 04:44:45,460
around 7 to $10 million once we

6703
04:44:45,864 --> 04:44:46,564
hit fy 28 and next year's

6704
04:44:46,564 --> 04:44:47,650
budget cycle will have to take

6705
04:44:47,650 --> 04:44:47,431
that into account.

6706
04:44:47,431 --> 04:44:49,400
Thank you.

6707
04:44:49,400 --> 04:44:50,100
Council PRESIDENT.

6708
04:44:50,100 --> 04:44:50,668
>> All right.

6709
04:44:50,668 --> 04:44:53,668
Thank you Charles for that

6710
04:44:54,639 --> 04:44:55,273
clarification with that clerk,

6711
04:44:55,273 --> 04:44:55,607
please proceed with public

6712
04:44:55,607 --> 04:44:56,174
comment.

6713
04:44:56,174 --> 04:44:56,541
>> Thank you, Council

6714
04:44:56,541 --> 04:44:58,541
PRESIDENT.

6715
04:44:59,276 --> 04:44:59,978
If we can have allegedly Andre

6716
04:44:59,978 --> 04:45:00,678
and Joyce Senator, please come

6717
04:45:00,678 --> 04:45:01,412
up to the front row Allegedly.

6718
04:45:01,412 --> 04:45:03,140
Audra, you can come up to

6719
04:45:03,140 --> 04:45:04,182
the microphone.

6720
04:45:04,182 --> 04:45:07,782
>> You'll have a minute and a

6721
04:45:08,219 --> 04:45:09,120
half.

6722
04:45:09,120 --> 04:45:12,120
>> I mean it's ridiculous that

6723
04:45:13,158 --> 04:45:13,925
we are here dealing with this

6724
04:45:13,925 --> 04:45:16,925
because obviously what you did

6725
04:45:20,432 --> 04:45:21,980
was illegal and

6726
04:45:21,980 --> 04:45:23,498
unconstitutional And the way

6727
04:45:25,670 --> 04:45:26,538
that you guys bring about these

6728
04:45:26,538 --> 04:45:30,138
fees is very negligent when you

6729
04:45:31,750 --> 04:45:31,742
know that this kind of stuff

6730
04:45:31,742 --> 04:45:32,443
can take place and all of a

6731
04:45:32,443 --> 04:45:35,648
sudden we have to come forward

6732
04:45:35,648 --> 04:45:36,414
and repeal what you've already

6733
04:45:36,414 --> 04:45:37,148
put forward like those 46m and

6734
04:45:37,148 --> 04:45:40,985
all of the kiosks like how much

6735
04:45:40,985 --> 04:45:41,686
money are we losing Because you

6736
04:45:41,686 --> 04:45:42,554
decided to go down this path

6737
04:45:42,554 --> 04:45:46,154
and we had to go into

6738
04:45:46,324 --> 04:45:47,250
litigation that's costing us

6739
04:45:47,250 --> 04:45:50,250
not only $1 million for that

6740
04:45:50,428 --> 04:45:51,129
but how much more money did you

6741
04:45:51,129 --> 04:45:51,830
lose in the process of that?

6742
04:45:51,830 --> 04:45:54,830
And then you're talking about

6743
04:45:55,990 --> 04:45:55,767
revenue that's been lost like I

6744
04:45:55,767 --> 04:45:56,435
mean, when are we going to

6745
04:45:56,435 --> 04:45:59,435
start doing things that are

6746
04:45:59,704 --> 04:46:00,404
that are for the benefit of

6747
04:46:00,404 --> 04:46:01,105
the people Because the people

6748
04:46:01,105 --> 04:46:04,843
will come in here and tell you

6749
04:46:04,843 --> 04:46:05,544
guys no but it's like the way

6750
04:46:05,544 --> 04:46:06,410
that things are set up it's

6751
04:46:06,410 --> 04:46:09,247
like well if you don't have

6752
04:46:09,247 --> 04:46:09,948
like 150,000 people come in

6753
04:46:09,948 --> 04:46:13,151
here, we're going to go ahead

6754
04:46:13,151 --> 04:46:13,851
and pass it anyway Like it's

6755
04:46:13,851 --> 04:46:14,719
literally set up for failure

6756
04:46:14,719 --> 04:46:18,790
for the people And then we have

6757
04:46:18,790 --> 04:46:22,990
to come back and do this kind

6758
04:46:23,494 --> 04:46:24,162
of wasting money that you guys

6759
04:46:24,162 --> 04:46:24,796
claim that you I mean look,

6760
04:46:24,796 --> 04:46:27,980
think about how much money

6761
04:46:27,980 --> 04:46:27,799
could have gone to all of these

6762
04:46:27,799 --> 04:46:28,466
first responders, millions of

6763
04:46:28,466 --> 04:46:31,466
dollars that you guys have

6764
04:46:33,500 --> 04:46:33,738
wasted And it happens time and

6765
04:46:33,738 --> 04:46:36,738
again and it's just ridiculous

6766
04:46:38,310 --> 04:46:43,110
to have to like I mean on your

6767
04:46:46,118 --> 04:46:49,718
word like choice on your show.

6768
04:46:50,655 --> 04:46:51,223
City Clerk Are we doing just

6769
04:46:51,223 --> 04:46:51,889
the parking fees now?

6770
04:46:51,889 --> 04:46:52,290
Yes, right now is just

6771
04:46:52,290 --> 04:46:52,591
the parking.

6772
04:46:52,591 --> 04:46:54,591
Okay.

6773
04:46:55,894 --> 04:46:56,195
Thank you.

6774
04:46:56,195 --> 04:46:56,928
Okay.

6775
04:46:56,928 --> 04:46:57,295
I don't need my papers then.

6776
04:46:57,295 --> 04:46:59,295
All right.

6777
04:47:00,966 --> 04:47:01,934
So when I came out of the gate

6778
04:47:01,934 --> 04:47:06,134
on this one I was so pro

6779
04:47:06,472 --> 04:47:09,472
revenue and I really, really

6780
04:47:10,142 --> 04:47:10,843
wanted these fees to be

6781
04:47:10,843 --> 04:47:13,843
enforced and I wanted that

6782
04:47:14,612 --> 04:47:15,114
money to be coming in and

6783
04:47:15,114 --> 04:47:17,114
that's the truth.

6784
04:47:19,918 --> 04:47:20,619
And then I listened to

6785
04:47:20,619 --> 04:47:23,190
everybody almost everybody I

6786
04:47:24,589 --> 04:47:27,589
think every single person And

6787
04:47:29,128 --> 04:47:32,128
they certainly convinced me to

6788
04:47:33,932 --> 04:47:34,699
change my mind Now after I

6789
04:47:34,699 --> 04:47:38,871
change my mind And I said okay,

6790
04:47:38,871 --> 04:47:39,738
no parking fees at Balboa Park

6791
04:47:39,738 --> 04:47:43,338
and so forth, this voice came

6792
04:47:43,608 --> 04:47:48,408
up in the back of my head and

6793
04:47:48,413 --> 04:47:49,470
said Ah joy, are you sure you

6794
04:47:49,470 --> 04:47:52,470
want to change your mind?

6795
04:47:53,520 --> 04:47:53,651
And and the I Charles of

6796
04:47:53,651 --> 04:47:56,651
the eBay just you know,

6797
04:47:57,523 --> 04:47:58,324
validated that that we can say

6798
04:47:58,324 --> 04:48:01,924
okay less impact on the money

6799
04:48:02,862 --> 04:48:06,999
on the revenue for f y 27 sort

6800
04:48:06,999 --> 04:48:07,766
of but what about later and

6801
04:48:07,766 --> 04:48:10,766
what about how we're doing

6802
04:48:12,380 --> 04:48:12,405
these these things How can we

6803
04:48:12,405 --> 04:48:14,405
do better?

6804
04:48:16,575 --> 04:48:17,343
I don't know How can we care

6805
04:48:17,343 --> 04:48:17,643
and how can we live within our

6806
04:48:17,643 --> 04:48:19,643
means?

6807
04:48:21,914 --> 04:48:22,548
I don't know.

6808
04:48:22,548 --> 04:48:24,548
Councilmember Ellen Rivera

6809
04:48:26,185 --> 04:48:26,785
talks about the corporate world

6810
04:48:26,785 --> 04:48:27,252
and money from them.

6811
04:48:27,252 --> 04:48:28,220
I don't know.

6812
04:48:28,220 --> 04:48:30,956
Thank you for that cute little

6813
04:48:30,956 --> 04:48:31,724
comment.

6814
04:48:31,724 --> 04:48:32,258
Five minutes on the time where

6815
04:48:32,258 --> 04:48:32,992
we're going to those

6816
04:48:32,992 --> 04:48:34,992
participating remotely starting

6817
04:48:36,229 --> 04:48:37,960
with Leonard Fiorina.

6818
04:48:37,960 --> 04:48:40,700
You'll have a minute and a half

6819
04:48:40,700 --> 04:48:41,467
if you can please unmute.

6820
04:48:41,467 --> 04:48:44,467
>> Yeah, I'll make a comment

6821
04:48:44,937 --> 04:48:47,937
regarding your measure be on

6822
04:48:50,343 --> 04:48:51,177
helping the deficit The company

6823
04:48:51,177 --> 04:48:51,911
that I saw in the recycling is

6824
04:48:51,911 --> 04:48:54,911
profiting from are you on

6825
04:48:55,214 --> 04:48:55,648
the trash sir Because that is

6826
04:48:55,648 --> 04:48:56,315
the next item.

6827
04:48:56,315 --> 04:48:59,418
Oh it's a next item yes.

6828
04:48:59,418 --> 04:49:00,153
We'll come back to you then.

6829
04:49:00,153 --> 04:49:01,120
Hector if you can please unmute

6830
04:49:01,120 --> 04:49:04,720
This is on Balboa Park paid

6831
04:49:06,892 --> 04:49:07,827
parking fees.

6832
04:49:07,827 --> 04:49:11,898
I got a new way to raise money

6833
04:49:11,898 --> 04:49:12,632
for the parking fees We we talk

6834
04:49:12,632 --> 04:49:16,735
to the brothers and get them to

6835
04:49:16,735 --> 04:49:17,700
chain up all those parking

6836
04:49:17,700 --> 04:49:17,737
meters.

6837
04:49:17,737 --> 04:49:20,473
We'll chain them up and drag

6838
04:49:20,473 --> 04:49:21,441
them over the museum of us and

6839
04:49:21,441 --> 04:49:25,410
we'll create a new thing in

6840
04:49:26,345 --> 04:49:27,120
the lobby that will put all

6841
04:49:27,120 --> 04:49:30,120
the parking meters up there.

6842
04:49:30,490 --> 04:49:30,716
It'll be a new living museum of

6843
04:49:30,716 --> 04:49:34,316
the Museum of Us How human

6844
04:49:35,880 --> 04:49:35,922
beings can mess up Balboa Park.

6845
04:49:35,922 --> 04:49:38,922
It'll be it'll it'll make

6846
04:49:40,826 --> 04:49:41,527
headlines Do this and we'll

6847
04:49:41,527 --> 04:49:45,127
make But we'll charge extra to

6848
04:49:45,231 --> 04:49:45,899
go see the museum pieces of

6849
04:49:45,899 --> 04:49:48,899
the parking meters in there.

6850
04:49:49,768 --> 04:49:50,470
Plus it'll free up free parking

6851
04:49:50,470 --> 04:49:51,237
for the whole park immediately

6852
04:49:51,237 --> 04:49:54,741
And then we got to reimburse

6853
04:49:54,741 --> 04:49:55,407
the guys that lost their

6854
04:49:55,407 --> 04:49:55,742
employees like the railroad

6855
04:49:55,742 --> 04:49:57,742
Museum.

6856
04:49:59,411 --> 04:49:59,945
Four guys got laid off because

6857
04:49:59,945 --> 04:50:00,680
there's no visitors.

6858
04:50:00,680 --> 04:50:04,280
So we got to reimburse those

6859
04:50:04,751 --> 04:50:05,518
guys to hire their employees

6860
04:50:05,518 --> 04:50:06,219
back and pay them back there

6861
04:50:06,219 --> 04:50:09,819
because they had it going on.

6862
04:50:10,890 --> 04:50:10,456
These guys had their business

6863
04:50:10,456 --> 04:50:11,124
going on.

6864
04:50:11,124 --> 04:50:13,524
Other people they're paying

6865
04:50:13,726 --> 04:50:14,561
their guys the money.

6866
04:50:14,561 --> 04:50:15,261
Visitors were come in and you

6867
04:50:15,261 --> 04:50:18,261
guys are getting tax revenue.

6868
04:50:18,665 --> 04:50:19,331
That's another thing.

6869
04:50:19,331 --> 04:50:20,660
How about all these other

6870
04:50:20,660 --> 04:50:23,660
places man The Aerospace Museum

6871
04:50:24,770 --> 04:50:25,438
lost customers These not job

6872
04:50:25,438 --> 04:50:28,438
then those guys are capable

6873
04:50:29,420 --> 04:50:29,742
dudes you know it's just like

6874
04:50:29,742 --> 04:50:30,510
you know it's just another You

6875
04:50:30,510 --> 04:50:33,546
got to take the loss take

6876
04:50:33,546 --> 04:50:34,213
the I'll put it all up on your

6877
04:50:34,213 --> 04:50:37,213
forehead now with your hand

6878
04:50:42,220 --> 04:50:42,688
with an al loser loser Take

6879
04:50:42,688 --> 04:50:43,356
the your time has concluded

6880
04:50:43,356 --> 04:50:46,356
before I proceed with anyone

6881
04:50:47,293 --> 04:50:47,994
else on the virtual there was a

6882
04:50:47,994 --> 04:50:48,828
clerical error My apologies on

6883
04:50:48,828 --> 04:50:52,264
mis filing of the slip So we do

6884
04:50:52,264 --> 04:50:52,899
have a number of speakers still

6885
04:50:52,899 --> 04:50:53,599
here in council chambers.

6886
04:50:53,599 --> 04:50:56,469
David Swarns if you can please

6887
04:50:56,469 --> 04:50:56,870
come forward to the microphone

6888
04:50:56,870 --> 04:50:57,537
after that.

6889
04:50:57,537 --> 04:50:59,937
Ron Johnson Peter Kaminsky

6890
04:51:01,675 --> 04:51:04,675
Michael Warburton and Pamela if

6891
04:51:05,378 --> 04:51:05,879
you can all please come forward

6892
04:51:05,879 --> 04:51:06,513
to the first row.

6893
04:51:06,513 --> 04:51:07,800
>> David please proceed.

6894
04:51:07,800 --> 04:51:07,447
You'll have a minute.

6895
04:51:07,447 --> 04:51:09,447
Thank you.

6896
04:51:09,983 --> 04:51:10,684
That was disappointing.

6897
04:51:10,684 --> 04:51:11,218
The council had been informed

6898
04:51:11,218 --> 04:51:11,918
in advance regarding

6899
04:51:11,918 --> 04:51:14,918
the difficulty and expense of

6900
04:51:14,921 --> 04:51:15,522
implementing sustaining and

6901
04:51:15,522 --> 04:51:15,855
finally of ending such a

6902
04:51:15,855 --> 04:51:17,855
program.

6903
04:51:18,925 --> 04:51:19,592
We are now thankfully in that

6904
04:51:19,592 --> 04:51:20,460
third stage Not soon enough.

6905
04:51:20,460 --> 04:51:23,864
I urge you to move with all due

6906
04:51:23,864 --> 04:51:24,564
dispatch to roll back paid

6907
04:51:24,564 --> 04:51:25,265
parking above all park and on

6908
04:51:25,265 --> 04:51:27,665
the earliest possible schedule

6909
04:51:29,403 --> 04:51:29,703
next week would not be too

6910
04:51:29,703 --> 04:51:30,436
soon.

6911
04:51:30,436 --> 04:51:32,836
It that's completely consistent

6912
04:51:33,730 --> 04:51:33,740
with the settlement as stated

6913
04:51:33,740 --> 04:51:34,507
before the end of the year.

6914
04:51:34,507 --> 04:51:37,507
While there have been different

6915
04:51:38,545 --> 04:51:39,212
adjustments to the program

6916
04:51:39,212 --> 04:51:39,912
which arguably have improved

6917
04:51:39,912 --> 04:51:42,912
it, what they've actually done

6918
04:51:42,950 --> 04:51:43,584
is made it even more confusing.

6919
04:51:43,584 --> 04:51:46,584
Myself and many others are

6920
04:51:46,987 --> 04:51:47,688
staying away from the park

6921
04:51:47,688 --> 04:51:48,388
because it's just and

6922
04:51:48,388 --> 04:51:50,388
reasonable intelligent person

6923
04:51:53,260 --> 04:51:53,994
and it's just beyond me and

6924
04:51:53,994 --> 04:51:57,594
changes every moment I have to,

6925
04:51:57,831 --> 04:51:58,499
you know, check my device to

6926
04:51:58,499 --> 04:51:59,399
make sure what the rules are

6927
04:51:59,399 --> 04:52:02,335
this month or this week or this

6928
04:52:02,335 --> 04:52:03,360
day So please remove it and

6929
04:52:03,360 --> 04:52:05,105
remove it now as soon as

6930
04:52:05,105 --> 04:52:08,105
possible Next week again would

6931
04:52:09,175 --> 04:52:13,375
be that to so Ron Johnson, if

6932
04:52:13,981 --> 04:52:14,648
you can please come forward.

6933
04:52:14,648 --> 04:52:15,515
Hi, how are you?

6934
04:52:15,515 --> 04:52:19,119
My name is Ron Johnson and I'm

6935
04:52:19,119 --> 04:52:22,719
a native San Diego and I've

6936
04:52:23,156 --> 04:52:23,457
lived in Claremont for 50

6937
04:52:23,457 --> 04:52:25,457
years.

6938
04:52:28,295 --> 04:52:28,895
I've also retired twice from

6939
04:52:28,895 --> 04:52:29,596
the aircraft industry at

6940
04:52:29,596 --> 04:52:32,596
General Dynamics Convair I was

6941
04:52:32,866 --> 04:52:33,566
in management.

6942
04:52:33,566 --> 04:52:34,502
I worked my way up.

6943
04:52:34,502 --> 04:52:37,438
I was in a mockup development

6944
04:52:37,438 --> 04:52:38,205
department.

6945
04:52:38,205 --> 04:52:41,609
We developed a lot of items

6946
04:52:41,609 --> 04:52:42,476
when we closed down in 95 half

6947
04:52:42,476 --> 04:52:46,760
of my mockup shop was donated

6948
04:52:46,180 --> 04:52:46,613
to the Aerospace Museum down in

6949
04:52:46,613 --> 04:52:47,248
the basement.

6950
04:52:47,248 --> 04:52:49,648
i'm very knowledgeable of

6951
04:52:51,284 --> 04:52:51,952
aircraft and missile industry

6952
04:52:51,952 --> 04:52:55,552
and over the course of time

6953
04:52:56,290 --> 04:52:57,580
have asked the Aerospace Museum

6954
04:52:57,580 --> 04:53:00,361
if I couldn't bring in a group

6955
04:53:00,361 --> 04:53:01,610
of people and I do docent work

6956
04:53:01,610 --> 04:53:01,829
and volunteer doesn't work to

6957
04:53:01,829 --> 04:53:04,829
explain what all there is

6958
04:53:05,532 --> 04:53:06,200
within the museum because of

6959
04:53:06,200 --> 04:53:06,900
the extensive knowledge that

6960
04:53:06,900 --> 04:53:10,970
I've had over the years that I

6961
04:53:10,970 --> 04:53:11,739
was with Convair Three weeks

6962
04:53:11,739 --> 04:53:15,542
after we shut down I joined a

6963
04:53:15,542 --> 04:53:16,143
postal service and put 22 years

6964
04:53:16,143 --> 04:53:16,744
with the Postal Service.

6965
04:53:16,744 --> 04:53:19,744
I also do docent tours,

6966
04:53:20,848 --> 04:53:21,549
volunteer docent tours also for

6967
04:53:21,549 --> 04:53:22,216
the Aerospace Museum for those

6968
04:53:22,216 --> 04:53:25,216
people who are interested in

6969
04:53:25,652 --> 04:53:26,520
what's going on there.

6970
04:53:26,520 --> 04:53:30,291
Well right now I am a baby

6971
04:53:30,291 --> 04:53:31,910
boomer on fixed income and I've

6972
04:53:31,910 --> 04:53:34,962
talked to a lot of people that

6973
04:53:34,962 --> 04:53:35,596
I give these tours to and

6974
04:53:35,596 --> 04:53:37,996
everything And because of

6975
04:53:39,332 --> 04:53:39,933
the implementation of

6976
04:53:39,933 --> 04:53:40,601
the parking situation at

6977
04:53:40,601 --> 04:53:44,201
Belmont Park, a lot of them

6978
04:53:44,305 --> 04:53:45,171
have become very discouraged

6979
04:53:45,171 --> 04:53:45,873
and have no desire to go back.

6980
04:53:45,873 --> 04:53:46,407
>> Thank you for that

6981
04:53:46,407 --> 04:53:48,407
concluding comment.

6982
04:53:50,440 --> 04:53:50,878
Peter Kaminski.

6983
04:53:50,878 --> 04:53:54,478
Peter you have time ceded to

6984
04:53:54,749 --> 04:53:55,448
you by Theresa won't thank you.

6985
04:53:55,448 --> 04:53:55,916
>> You'll have two minutes.

6986
04:53:55,916 --> 04:53:56,350
Please proceed.

6987
04:53:56,350 --> 04:53:57,500
I mean sorry.

6988
04:53:57,500 --> 04:53:57,418
Three minutes Please proceed.

6989
04:53:57,418 --> 04:53:59,418
Thank you.

6990
04:53:59,520 --> 04:54:00,221
Council PRESIDENT Council

6991
04:54:00,221 --> 04:54:00,854
members Peter Kaminski Bob All

6992
04:54:00,854 --> 04:54:02,854
Park Cultural Partnership

6993
04:54:03,991 --> 04:54:04,691
representing our museums,

6994
04:54:04,691 --> 04:54:05,225
performing arts organizations,

6995
04:54:05,225 --> 04:54:07,225
gardens and cultural

6996
04:54:08,963 --> 04:54:09,330
organizations that call Balboa

6997
04:54:09,330 --> 04:54:11,330
Park home.

6998
04:54:13,600 --> 04:54:13,934
My message today is super

6999
04:54:13,934 --> 04:54:14,302
simple.

7000
04:54:14,302 --> 04:54:16,302
Thank you.

7001
04:54:18,906 --> 04:54:19,507
Thank you for listening and

7002
04:54:19,507 --> 04:54:20,474
thank you for leading.

7003
04:54:20,474 --> 04:54:23,578
Thank you for bringing us to

7004
04:54:23,578 --> 04:54:24,312
this moment.

7005
04:54:24,312 --> 04:54:27,312
The elimination of paid parking

7006
04:54:28,449 --> 04:54:29,116
in Balboa Park Your creativity

7007
04:54:29,116 --> 04:54:32,116
and leadership will begin to

7008
04:54:33,210 --> 04:54:33,488
pull Balboa Double Park back

7009
04:54:33,488 --> 04:54:35,488
from the brink.

7010
04:54:37,925 --> 04:54:38,359
We trust that this vote will

7011
04:54:38,359 --> 04:54:38,993
end.

7012
04:54:38,993 --> 04:54:39,693
Year over year decline in

7013
04:54:39,693 --> 04:54:42,693
visitation to Balbo Park Arts

7014
04:54:43,970 --> 04:54:43,698
and Culture Organization is

7015
04:54:43,698 --> 04:54:46,980
caused by paid parking.

7016
04:54:47,468 --> 04:54:48,690
Specifically we want to express

7017
04:54:48,690 --> 04:54:48,769
our immense gratitude to

7018
04:54:48,769 --> 04:54:51,169
the City Council particularly

7019
04:54:52,973 --> 04:54:53,708
Council PRESIDENT LaCava and

7020
04:54:53,708 --> 04:54:56,108
Councilmember Whitman who stuck

7021
04:54:57,845 --> 04:54:58,546
their necks out for the good of

7022
04:54:58,546 --> 04:55:02,146
this city and the good of

7023
04:55:02,417 --> 04:55:03,840
Balboa Park.

7024
04:55:03,840 --> 04:55:03,785
Are grateful also to make

7025
04:55:03,785 --> 04:55:06,185
glorious city attorney Fermat

7026
04:55:06,988 --> 04:55:07,655
Mike Sackett and former Mayor

7027
04:55:07,655 --> 04:55:08,155
Kevin Faulconer for finding

7028
04:55:08,155 --> 04:55:10,155
that path forward.

7029
04:55:11,860 --> 04:55:14,860
Most importantly we want to

7030
04:55:16,831 --> 04:55:17,531
thank the tens possibly

7031
04:55:17,531 --> 04:55:20,531
hundreds of thousands of San

7032
04:55:21,403 --> 04:55:25,300
Diego kids who spoke up on

7033
04:55:26,107 --> 04:55:26,774
behalf of their Balboa Park.

7034
04:55:26,774 --> 04:55:27,308
They are the people who made

7035
04:55:27,308 --> 04:55:29,308
the difference here.

7036
04:55:31,245 --> 04:55:31,846
Those advocates While we

7037
04:55:31,846 --> 04:55:32,580
celebrate the settlement

7038
04:55:32,580 --> 04:55:35,580
agreement and the commitment to

7039
04:55:36,151 --> 04:55:36,951
win the parking no later than

7040
04:55:36,951 --> 04:55:39,951
JANUARY 1st, we also recognize

7041
04:55:40,822 --> 04:55:41,556
that the next several months

7042
04:55:41,556 --> 04:55:44,556
will not be without challenges.

7043
04:55:45,260 --> 04:55:45,960
Paid parking MAY remain in

7044
04:55:45,960 --> 04:55:46,694
effect through the second half

7045
04:55:46,694 --> 04:55:47,529
of this year and that will lead

7046
04:55:47,529 --> 04:55:50,531
to some real impacts in our

7047
04:55:50,531 --> 04:55:51,199
organization and visitors We

7048
04:55:51,199 --> 04:55:53,599
know some organizations will

7049
04:55:55,503 --> 04:55:56,137
continue to face attendance,

7050
04:55:56,137 --> 04:55:56,705
operational and financial

7051
04:55:56,705 --> 04:55:58,705
challenges during this

7052
04:55:59,241 --> 04:56:01,241
transition period.

7053
04:56:04,345 --> 04:56:04,912
But we also now know this

7054
04:56:04,912 --> 04:56:07,312
The city is listening.

7055
04:56:09,617 --> 04:56:09,951
We have a partner in this city

7056
04:56:09,951 --> 04:56:10,585
council.

7057
04:56:10,585 --> 04:56:12,985
We're committed to working

7058
04:56:13,722 --> 04:56:14,880
through these challenges

7059
04:56:14,880 --> 04:56:14,856
together.

7060
04:56:14,856 --> 04:56:18,456
As the paid parking era comes

7061
04:56:18,794 --> 04:56:19,394
to a very happy close,

7062
04:56:19,394 --> 04:56:21,394
the settlement agreement

7063
04:56:23,532 --> 04:56:24,650
provides certainty and

7064
04:56:24,650 --> 04:56:24,800
certainly allows our

7065
04:56:24,800 --> 04:56:26,800
institutions, our organizations

7066
04:56:28,704 --> 04:56:29,404
to plan to adapt and to focus

7067
04:56:29,404 --> 04:56:32,404
on serving the millions of

7068
04:56:33,742 --> 04:56:34,443
people from our region And for

7069
04:56:34,443 --> 04:56:37,443
the tourists that bring money

7070
04:56:37,745 --> 04:56:38,613
into this economy.

7071
04:56:38,613 --> 04:56:42,213
Thank you for your vote in

7072
04:56:42,851 --> 04:56:43,551
support and for supporting

7073
04:56:43,551 --> 04:56:46,551
the San Diego's community core

7074
04:56:46,688 --> 04:56:47,623
and regional destination.

7075
04:56:47,623 --> 04:56:50,192
>> Again, thank you very, very

7076
04:56:50,192 --> 04:56:52,192
much.

7077
04:56:55,264 --> 04:56:55,596
>> Thank you, Michael.

7078
04:56:55,596 --> 04:56:57,596
Hello.

7079
04:56:59,601 --> 04:57:00,302
Representing the San Diego

7080
04:57:00,302 --> 04:57:01,690
Model Railroad Museum I lost

7081
04:57:01,690 --> 04:57:04,472
count of how many times I stood

7082
04:57:04,472 --> 04:57:05,173
here and talked about

7083
04:57:05,173 --> 04:57:05,874
the impacts on the attendance

7084
04:57:05,874 --> 04:57:09,474
and sharing data and the staff

7085
04:57:10,712 --> 04:57:11,412
members We had the cut and

7086
04:57:11,412 --> 04:57:11,747
the hours of operation we had

7087
04:57:11,747 --> 04:57:12,347
to cut.

7088
04:57:12,347 --> 04:57:14,616
And all of those things.

7089
04:57:14,616 --> 04:57:15,217
But this is not one of those

7090
04:57:15,217 --> 04:57:15,984
times you know I'm here

7091
04:57:15,984 --> 04:57:17,953
actually because Peter stole my

7092
04:57:17,953 --> 04:57:19,953
thunder.

7093
04:57:23,158 --> 04:57:23,891
Truly Thank you.

7094
04:57:23,891 --> 04:57:24,593
I really can't express our team

7095
04:57:24,593 --> 04:57:26,993
meeting after the announcement

7096
04:57:28,130 --> 04:57:28,897
was made and just the sheer

7097
04:57:28,897 --> 04:57:32,497
amount of hope that people had

7098
04:57:33,334 --> 04:57:34,200
paid parking was not going to

7099
04:57:34,200 --> 04:57:34,335
be sustainable for us just.

7100
04:57:34,335 --> 04:57:36,335
Period.

7101
04:57:38,273 --> 04:57:38,974
And to use a bad train pun we

7102
04:57:38,974 --> 04:57:39,474
do see the light at the end of

7103
04:57:39,474 --> 04:57:41,474
the tunnel, right?

7104
04:57:42,277 --> 04:57:42,978
We know that in JANUARY this is

7105
04:57:42,978 --> 04:57:46,548
all going to change uphill for

7106
04:57:46,548 --> 04:57:47,348
us or on the upside for us and

7107
04:57:47,348 --> 04:57:50,948
we are really so grateful I

7108
04:57:51,419 --> 04:57:52,288
can't express it.

7109
04:57:52,288 --> 04:57:53,540
And also to you thank you to

7110
04:57:53,540 --> 04:57:56,540
everybody who engaged in this

7111
04:57:56,291 --> 04:57:56,926
process And it was.

7112
04:57:56,926 --> 04:57:57,426
Uncomfortable and awkward

7113
04:57:57,426 --> 04:57:59,426
sometimes I mean.

7114
04:58:00,930 --> 04:58:01,630
Emily, thank you.

7115
04:58:01,630 --> 04:58:02,298
You know, she came to

7116
04:58:02,298 --> 04:58:04,698
the Bellevue Park Committee

7117
04:58:05,634 --> 04:58:07,119
meetings and that could not

7118
04:58:07,119 --> 04:58:07,274
have been easy And I appreciate

7119
04:58:07,274 --> 04:58:10,272
you being part of that process.

7120
04:58:10,272 --> 04:58:10,873
So it took us all to get here.

7121
04:58:10,873 --> 04:58:11,674
But here we are.

7122
04:58:11,674 --> 04:58:15,110
So thank you for that vote.

7123
04:58:15,110 --> 04:58:16,145
Thanks.

7124
04:58:16,145 --> 04:58:19,745
>> Think in our finals week or

7125
04:58:20,583 --> 04:58:21,283
as Pamela Riegel I think is

7126
04:58:21,283 --> 04:58:21,984
family you have several people

7127
04:58:21,984 --> 04:58:24,787
seeding your time If they can

7128
04:58:24,787 --> 04:58:25,387
please raise their hand.

7129
04:58:25,387 --> 04:58:27,387
Laurie Freitas, Britta

7130
04:58:29,825 --> 04:58:31,427
Lindstrom and Loveless and

7131
04:58:31,427 --> 04:58:33,827
Cassidy Bartolo you'll have 7.5

7132
04:58:36,265 --> 04:58:36,765
minutes.

7133
04:58:36,765 --> 04:58:37,131
>> Good afternoon.

7134
04:58:37,131 --> 04:58:37,599
Thank you.

7135
04:58:37,599 --> 04:58:39,599
Council members.

7136
04:58:41,300 --> 04:58:41,570
My name is Pamela Beagle.

7137
04:58:41,570 --> 04:58:42,538
>> It really is.

7138
04:58:42,538 --> 04:58:46,509
The last time I was here was

7139
04:58:46,509 --> 04:58:49,245
over a year ago with the edu

7140
04:58:49,245 --> 04:58:49,745
bonus when you we all knew

7141
04:58:49,745 --> 04:58:50,413
about that one.

7142
04:58:50,413 --> 04:58:50,812
Thank you very much for

7143
04:58:50,812 --> 04:58:52,812
amending it.

7144
04:58:54,383 --> 04:58:55,510
I really appreciate that.

7145
04:58:55,510 --> 04:58:58,510
But we are here with.

7146
04:58:58,721 --> 04:58:59,622
The Balboa Park parking fees

7147
04:58:59,622 --> 04:59:00,389
And I'll tell you one thing I

7148
04:59:00,389 --> 04:59:00,656
would not want to be any of

7149
04:59:00,656 --> 04:59:02,656
you.

7150
04:59:04,293 --> 04:59:04,994
i don't want your job.

7151
04:59:04,994 --> 04:59:08,594
It is so hard The budget.

7152
04:59:09,165 --> 04:59:09,799
I was here on Friday.

7153
04:59:09,799 --> 04:59:12,199
I listen to everybody.

7154
04:59:14,169 --> 04:59:14,971
I listen to MR. Campo who said

7155
04:59:14,971 --> 04:59:15,271
are we going to do this every

7156
04:59:15,271 --> 04:59:17,271
year?

7157
04:59:18,674 --> 04:59:19,509
What are we 15 million?

7158
04:59:19,509 --> 04:59:23,312
And he ask you, MR. Modica And

7159
04:59:23,312 --> 04:59:23,946
and you said is it going to be

7160
04:59:23,946 --> 04:59:24,881
15 million more next year?

7161
04:59:24,881 --> 04:59:26,482
And you said Oh no, it's going

7162
04:59:26,482 --> 04:59:26,949
to be 30 years something or

7163
04:59:26,949 --> 04:59:27,750
more than that.

7164
04:59:27,750 --> 04:59:30,750
And so it keeps getting

7165
04:59:31,453 --> 04:59:32,288
exponentially larger.

7166
04:59:32,288 --> 04:59:32,555
You have a terribly hard job to

7167
04:59:32,555 --> 04:59:34,555
do.

7168
04:59:36,459 --> 04:59:37,492
I am not here to yell at you.

7169
04:59:37,492 --> 04:59:37,994
>> I wasn't here to yell at you

7170
04:59:37,994 --> 04:59:39,994
last year either.

7171
04:59:41,664 --> 04:59:42,640
Maybe I can have a few

7172
04:59:42,640 --> 04:59:42,765
suggestions.

7173
04:59:42,765 --> 04:59:45,501
I'm not brilliant but I am one

7174
04:59:45,501 --> 04:59:49,101
of those senior citizens so I

7175
04:59:49,639 --> 04:59:53,239
have been around a little bit.

7176
04:59:55,210 --> 04:59:55,980
I understand MR. LaCava you

7177
04:59:55,980 --> 04:59:59,949
said on Friday you know it it

7178
04:59:59,949 --> 05:00:00,483
isn't a matter of middle

7179
05:00:00,483 --> 05:00:02,483
management cutting.

7180
05:00:05,154 --> 05:00:05,855
>> Cell phone allowance is car

7181
05:00:05,855 --> 05:00:06,389
allowances, little things like

7182
05:00:06,389 --> 05:00:08,789
that here and there.

7183
05:00:09,259 --> 05:00:10,126
It's not a matter of that.

7184
05:00:10,126 --> 05:00:10,793
>> None of you who are here

7185
05:00:10,793 --> 05:00:13,193
today created this problem.

7186
05:00:14,931 --> 05:00:15,731
You didn't It's been going on

7187
05:00:15,731 --> 05:00:19,602
for quite a while, hasn't it Is

7188
05:00:19,602 --> 05:00:19,935
not the current mayor's fault

7189
05:00:19,935 --> 05:00:20,670
either.

7190
05:00:20,670 --> 05:00:20,970
It's been going on for quite a

7191
05:00:20,970 --> 05:00:22,970
while.

7192
05:00:23,806 --> 05:00:24,773
I would know because I'm 105.

7193
05:00:24,773 --> 05:00:28,845
>> But the point is is it has

7194
05:00:28,845 --> 05:00:29,145
been going on for quite a

7195
05:00:29,145 --> 05:00:30,120
while.

7196
05:00:30,120 --> 05:00:30,780
>> I don't think I have to tell

7197
05:00:30,780 --> 05:00:33,780
anybody that we live in

7198
05:00:34,160 --> 05:00:34,384
America's most expensive city

7199
05:00:34,384 --> 05:00:36,384
probably.

7200
05:00:38,355 --> 05:00:39,540
But that makes it all the more

7201
05:00:39,540 --> 05:00:42,540
challenging Now with your get

7202
05:00:43,426 --> 05:00:44,260
it done am I paid attention?

7203
05:00:44,260 --> 05:00:48,310
I do put things in there on

7204
05:00:48,310 --> 05:00:48,731
the Get It Done app and this is

7205
05:00:48,731 --> 05:00:49,499
from your information I didn't

7206
05:00:49,499 --> 05:00:53,102
come up with this on my own I'm

7207
05:00:53,102 --> 05:00:56,102
not that bright but traffic

7208
05:00:58,208 --> 05:00:58,909
signs take 290 days plus to get

7209
05:00:58,909 --> 05:01:01,309
fixed Streetlights 500 I'll be

7210
05:01:03,313 --> 05:01:04,460
dead by then Vegetation

7211
05:01:04,460 --> 05:01:04,381
encroachment 679 plus days curb

7212
05:01:04,381 --> 05:01:06,381
repair.

7213
05:01:07,984 --> 05:01:08,351
>> Might as well forget it 1196

7214
05:01:08,351 --> 05:01:10,351
plus days.

7215
05:01:12,822 --> 05:01:13,123
So what are you going to do

7216
05:01:13,123 --> 05:01:13,990
now?

7217
05:01:13,990 --> 05:01:17,493
You can just kick the can down

7218
05:01:17,493 --> 05:01:19,893
the road Probably declare

7219
05:01:22,298 --> 05:01:23,320
bankruptcy Maybe that was a

7220
05:01:23,320 --> 05:01:23,733
suggestion back in the ninety's

7221
05:01:23,733 --> 05:01:27,333
and the deficit has not gotten

7222
05:01:27,771 --> 05:01:28,438
smaller or it's gotten larger

7223
05:01:28,438 --> 05:01:31,438
if you know your California

7224
05:01:32,142 --> 05:01:32,876
history which I know some of

7225
05:01:32,876 --> 05:01:35,876
you do Vallejo Stockton Orange

7226
05:01:36,980 --> 05:01:37,381
County they've all declared

7227
05:01:37,381 --> 05:01:38,810
bankruptcy.

7228
05:01:38,810 --> 05:01:38,749
Or do you want to consider

7229
05:01:38,749 --> 05:01:41,149
something a little bit

7230
05:01:41,284 --> 05:01:42,850
different?

7231
05:01:42,850 --> 05:01:42,652
>> There is a company with

7232
05:01:42,652 --> 05:01:45,520
the innocuous name of

7233
05:01:46,556 --> 05:01:47,256
management partners which means

7234
05:01:47,256 --> 05:01:49,656
absolutely nothing to anybody

7235
05:01:51,194 --> 05:01:51,795
which merged with the larger

7236
05:01:51,795 --> 05:01:52,495
firm of Baker Tilly.

7237
05:01:52,495 --> 05:01:55,495
I know again probably means

7238
05:01:56,833 --> 05:01:57,366
nothing to anybody and it's a

7239
05:01:57,366 --> 05:01:59,366
consulting firm for

7240
05:02:01,104 --> 05:02:01,705
municipalities like ours.

7241
05:02:01,705 --> 05:02:02,371
They've worked with many

7242
05:02:02,371 --> 05:02:04,771
California cities on budget

7243
05:02:05,942 --> 05:02:07,942
spending, investing, funding

7244
05:02:10,380 --> 05:02:11,148
reserves etc..

7245
05:02:11,148 --> 05:02:14,148
You, the current city council

7246
05:02:15,219 --> 05:02:15,919
and mayor did not create this

7247
05:02:15,919 --> 05:02:18,919
long simmering problem but you

7248
05:02:20,256 --> 05:02:21,240
do have a chance to be a hero

7249
05:02:21,240 --> 05:02:21,925
here and move it this way

7250
05:02:21,925 --> 05:02:25,525
rather than this way because it

7251
05:02:25,895 --> 05:02:26,663
keeps going that way and you

7252
05:02:26,663 --> 05:02:27,531
notice how you go up, up, up

7253
05:02:27,531 --> 05:02:30,868
and then you come back down

7254
05:02:30,868 --> 05:02:31,534
again.

7255
05:02:31,534 --> 05:02:32,350
MISS Campbell has already

7256
05:02:32,350 --> 05:02:34,350
pointed that out.

7257
05:02:35,205 --> 05:02:35,906
She tried.

7258
05:02:35,906 --> 05:02:36,372
We got it up.

7259
05:02:36,372 --> 05:02:37,740
We got it.

7260
05:02:37,740 --> 05:02:37,541
Well, no, no, Now it's going

7261
05:02:37,541 --> 05:02:39,541
back down again.

7262
05:02:40,677 --> 05:02:41,377
I want you to know I'm not an

7263
05:02:41,377 --> 05:02:44,782
employee or a shill for for

7264
05:02:44,782 --> 05:02:45,215
Baker Tilly or management

7265
05:02:45,215 --> 05:02:45,683
partners.

7266
05:02:45,683 --> 05:02:46,550
But they do.

7267
05:02:46,550 --> 05:02:49,550
They are a firm that

7268
05:02:50,421 --> 05:02:51,155
specializes in looking at what

7269
05:02:51,155 --> 05:02:51,855
the problems are defining them.

7270
05:02:51,855 --> 05:02:55,920
I'm not saying that we don't

7271
05:02:55,920 --> 05:02:55,759
need you, MR. Modica.

7272
05:02:55,759 --> 05:02:58,159
>> We need you badly.

7273
05:02:59,897 --> 05:03:03,497
And I actually read your report

7274
05:03:04,334 --> 05:03:05,202
and a lot of the pages in it

7275
05:03:05,202 --> 05:03:09,173
and it's I don't know how you

7276
05:03:09,173 --> 05:03:10,600
sleep at night Scary.

7277
05:03:10,600 --> 05:03:13,600
And I saw your projections.

7278
05:03:13,811 --> 05:03:14,478
I also saw the projections on

7279
05:03:14,478 --> 05:03:15,112
the Balboa Park parking fees

7280
05:03:15,112 --> 05:03:18,112
which kind of confused me

7281
05:03:18,882 --> 05:03:21,282
because they originally said

7282
05:03:22,852 --> 05:03:23,521
last year that they projected

7283
05:03:23,521 --> 05:03:26,490
12.5 million and then it was

7284
05:03:26,490 --> 05:03:27,224
revised in NOVEMBER down to 2.9

7285
05:03:27,224 --> 05:03:30,224
million And now apparently it's

7286
05:03:31,128 --> 05:03:31,494
back up again at 7 million

7287
05:03:31,494 --> 05:03:31,762
something.

7288
05:03:31,762 --> 05:03:32,596
Yes.

7289
05:03:32,596 --> 05:03:35,932
So that kind of confuses me

7290
05:03:35,932 --> 05:03:36,233
when you go up and down like

7291
05:03:36,233 --> 05:03:38,233
that.

7292
05:03:40,571 --> 05:03:43,808
My feeling is is the museums,

7293
05:03:43,808 --> 05:03:46,208
the restaurants, the vendors

7294
05:03:49,180 --> 05:03:49,847
and the employees,

7295
05:03:49,847 --> 05:03:50,381
the volunteers have all been

7296
05:03:50,381 --> 05:03:52,781
hurt badly by this.

7297
05:03:53,684 --> 05:03:54,170
I don't think you did it on

7298
05:03:54,170 --> 05:03:54,752
purpose.

7299
05:03:54,752 --> 05:03:58,522
I think you did it because you

7300
05:03:58,522 --> 05:03:59,289
felt you had to.

7301
05:03:59,289 --> 05:03:59,590
Where are we going to get

7302
05:03:59,590 --> 05:04:00,324
money?

7303
05:04:00,324 --> 05:04:03,861
As MR. Campbell said, Why can't

7304
05:04:03,861 --> 05:04:04,662
you pay a sales tax?

7305
05:04:04,662 --> 05:04:05,495
Well, you know how the public

7306
05:04:05,495 --> 05:04:08,531
is If it sounds like a tax, if

7307
05:04:08,531 --> 05:04:08,966
it sounds like a fee, we don't

7308
05:04:08,966 --> 05:04:09,699
want it right.

7309
05:04:09,699 --> 05:04:13,271
Everybody says no all the time

7310
05:04:13,271 --> 05:04:13,937
to everything But I'm just just

7311
05:04:13,937 --> 05:04:14,772
want to throw it out there.

7312
05:04:14,772 --> 05:04:17,608
>> I'm not going to take all my

7313
05:04:17,608 --> 05:04:18,142
time here but I just want to

7314
05:04:18,142 --> 05:04:20,542
throw it out there.

7315
05:04:22,446 --> 05:04:23,114
>> Maybe maybe another company

7316
05:04:23,114 --> 05:04:23,915
that specializes in figuring

7317
05:04:23,915 --> 05:04:27,510
out how to get us out of this

7318
05:04:27,510 --> 05:04:27,718
might be something to consider

7319
05:04:27,718 --> 05:04:31,318
just maybe And then maybe I

7320
05:04:32,156 --> 05:04:35,756
won't come back next year and

7321
05:04:36,694 --> 05:04:37,361
say I told you sell but thank

7322
05:04:37,361 --> 05:04:37,862
you again for allowing this

7323
05:04:37,862 --> 05:04:39,862
public discourse.

7324
05:04:41,165 --> 05:04:41,966
I know many times it's boring,

7325
05:04:41,966 --> 05:04:45,566
painful and who wants to listen

7326
05:04:49,307 --> 05:04:50,740
to an old lady But thank you.

7327
05:04:50,740 --> 05:04:50,441
>> Thank you for those

7328
05:04:50,441 --> 05:04:51,108
comments.

7329
05:04:51,108 --> 05:04:51,675
I'm sorry At the five minute

7330
05:04:51,675 --> 05:04:52,376
timer we'll go back to

7331
05:04:52,376 --> 05:04:53,745
the virtual public commenters

7332
05:04:53,745 --> 05:04:54,112
We have six people in

7333
05:04:54,112 --> 05:04:56,112
the queue.

7334
05:04:57,815 --> 05:04:58,516
Tony if you can please unmute.

7335
05:04:58,516 --> 05:04:59,500
>> Hey, how's it going?

7336
05:04:59,500 --> 05:05:01,450
Can you hear me?

7337
05:05:02,720 --> 05:05:03,554
Yes, please proceed.

7338
05:05:03,554 --> 05:05:03,854
>> You'll have a minute and a

7339
05:05:03,854 --> 05:05:04,222
half.

7340
05:05:04,222 --> 05:05:06,222
Thank you.

7341
05:05:07,358 --> 05:05:08,580
I wanted to start by thanking

7342
05:05:08,580 --> 05:05:08,660
Council member Whitburn Thank

7343
05:05:08,660 --> 05:05:09,360
you for your efforts in

7344
05:05:09,360 --> 05:05:11,596
removing the parking meters at

7345
05:05:11,596 --> 05:05:12,530
Balboa Park.

7346
05:05:12,530 --> 05:05:13,970
I didn't get to finish what I

7347
05:05:13,970 --> 05:05:13,798
was saying earlier to

7348
05:05:13,798 --> 05:05:15,798
Councilmember Campbell before

7349
05:05:16,568 --> 05:05:17,168
my time ran out so I just

7350
05:05:17,168 --> 05:05:17,869
wanted to say I really

7351
05:05:17,869 --> 05:05:20,269
important I really appreciate

7352
05:05:21,272 --> 05:05:21,972
the importance It's being

7353
05:05:21,972 --> 05:05:22,941
placed upon the discussion of

7354
05:05:22,941 --> 05:05:25,976
how much how far a setting can

7355
05:05:25,976 --> 05:05:26,611
go Looking forward to working

7356
05:05:26,611 --> 05:05:27,312
with you, your office and

7357
05:05:27,312 --> 05:05:29,712
helping the public understand

7358
05:05:30,548 --> 05:05:31,249
how we can get those property

7359
05:05:31,249 --> 05:05:31,916
taxes given to us from

7360
05:05:31,916 --> 05:05:32,383
the state increased for our

7361
05:05:32,383 --> 05:05:34,383
property taxes.

7362
05:05:36,870 --> 05:05:36,887
I heard you actually mention

7363
05:05:36,887 --> 05:05:37,589
this before and we will MISS

7364
05:05:37,589 --> 05:05:38,289
You when you're out of office

7365
05:05:38,289 --> 05:05:41,250
No longer able to provide

7366
05:05:41,250 --> 05:05:41,726
the historical scope of where

7367
05:05:41,726 --> 05:05:44,726
our problems are sourced from.

7368
05:05:45,196 --> 05:05:45,863
Also the gap between the 10.3

7369
05:05:45,863 --> 05:05:46,564
million in arts funding that

7370
05:05:46,564 --> 05:05:49,564
you restored and the 1.8 that

7371
05:05:49,901 --> 05:05:50,601
you mentioned previously that

7372
05:05:50,601 --> 05:05:51,202
was issued for the arts last

7373
05:05:51,202 --> 05:05:51,803
year could be closed and

7374
05:05:51,803 --> 05:05:54,803
the arts could be fully

7375
05:05:54,805 --> 05:05:55,473
restored simply by cutting and

7376
05:05:55,473 --> 05:05:56,173
canceling the flop contract

7377
05:05:56,173 --> 05:05:59,173
which has already exceeded its

7378
05:05:59,210 --> 05:05:59,744
value in the current lawsuit

7379
05:05:59,744 --> 05:06:00,377
that it's facing for

7380
05:06:00,377 --> 05:06:03,377
the violation of the human

7381
05:06:04,115 --> 05:06:04,849
rights For the two gentlemen

7382
05:06:04,849 --> 05:06:05,517
that I mentioned with the story

7383
05:06:05,517 --> 05:06:07,917
that broke yesterday, County

7384
05:06:09,453 --> 05:06:10,155
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Kent

7385
05:06:10,155 --> 05:06:10,822
Lee motivated by what you said

7386
05:06:10,822 --> 05:06:13,822
earlier, how the public is

7387
05:06:13,959 --> 05:06:14,693
lacking trust about some of

7388
05:06:14,693 --> 05:06:15,360
the programs, how they work and

7389
05:06:15,360 --> 05:06:18,463
how the money is being spent

7390
05:06:18,463 --> 05:06:19,164
within some of these programs

7391
05:06:19,164 --> 05:06:19,564
Totally agree that we all can

7392
05:06:19,564 --> 05:06:21,564
feel loved.

7393
05:06:22,868 --> 05:06:23,735
Your detailed analysis on how

7394
05:06:23,735 --> 05:06:24,268
much it would cost to catch up

7395
05:06:24,268 --> 05:06:26,972
to L.A. Standards of

7396
05:06:26,972 --> 05:06:27,672
comparative pay and how it

7397
05:06:27,672 --> 05:06:28,306
would take $0.06 for every

7398
05:06:28,306 --> 05:06:28,673
$0.03 I think is what you

7399
05:06:28,673 --> 05:06:30,673
mentioned.

7400
05:06:32,210 --> 05:06:32,811
And I also dig the haircut.

7401
05:06:32,811 --> 05:06:33,512
Council member Marni von

7402
05:06:33,512 --> 05:06:34,450
Wilpert loved the French tips.

7403
05:06:34,450 --> 05:06:36,445
The ring looks new.

7404
05:06:37,749 --> 05:06:38,350
If so, congratulations and your

7405
05:06:38,350 --> 05:06:39,160
time of course concluded

7406
05:06:39,160 --> 05:06:42,160
Francine Maxwell if you can

7407
05:06:44,589 --> 05:06:45,123
please unmute the afternoon.

7408
05:06:45,123 --> 05:06:45,856
>> Francine Maxwell

7409
05:06:45,856 --> 05:06:46,424
Southeastern San Diego resident

7410
05:06:46,424 --> 05:06:49,227
Thank you so much for

7411
05:06:49,227 --> 05:06:49,928
the presentation.

7412
05:06:49,928 --> 05:06:50,628
I completely agree that

7413
05:06:50,628 --> 05:06:54,228
the million dollar fee that we

7414
05:06:54,265 --> 05:06:54,699
have to pay the attorneys was

7415
05:06:54,699 --> 05:06:56,699
well worth it.

7416
05:06:59,204 --> 05:07:00,500
We continue to throw around.

7417
05:07:00,500 --> 05:07:00,305
We want to build trust and lack

7418
05:07:00,305 --> 05:07:00,905
trust.

7419
05:07:00,905 --> 05:07:03,207
Let's have a trusting

7420
05:07:03,207 --> 05:07:03,909
conversation and tell us if

7421
05:07:03,909 --> 05:07:07,509
every kiosk that was going to

7422
05:07:08,460 --> 05:07:08,446
we're working on removing cost

7423
05:07:08,446 --> 05:07:10,446
is $750,000.

7424
05:07:13,352 --> 05:07:14,520
Let's have an honest dialog and

7425
05:07:14,520 --> 05:07:14,720
conversation about the dollar

7426
05:07:14,720 --> 05:07:18,320
amounts that are going to be

7427
05:07:18,690 --> 05:07:19,324
returned if we begin to be

7428
05:07:19,324 --> 05:07:19,925
fully transparent because

7429
05:07:19,925 --> 05:07:22,325
everyone has a different

7430
05:07:23,328 --> 05:07:24,620
definite vision of transparency

7431
05:07:24,620 --> 05:07:27,662
we can begin to build trust

7432
05:07:28,233 --> 05:07:28,901
because trust is absolutely

7433
05:07:28,901 --> 05:07:29,534
lacking And if we want to

7434
05:07:29,534 --> 05:07:32,534
compare ourselves to L.A.

7435
05:07:32,904 --> 05:07:33,605
There's a whole bunch of other

7436
05:07:33,605 --> 05:07:37,205
things that we would need to

7437
05:07:37,843 --> 05:07:38,576
compare to L.A. Like how it

7438
05:07:38,576 --> 05:07:42,176
lays oversight to the police is

7439
05:07:42,681 --> 05:07:43,348
far different from the cpa that

7440
05:07:43,348 --> 05:07:44,287
we have here in San Diego.

7441
05:07:44,287 --> 05:07:47,953
So let's begin If we want to do

7442
05:07:47,953 --> 05:07:48,620
apples and apples or apples and

7443
05:07:48,620 --> 05:07:49,320
oranges, let's go ahead But

7444
05:07:49,320 --> 05:07:52,320
again, let's do it straight

7445
05:07:52,758 --> 05:07:56,358
across the board again to give

7446
05:07:57,950 --> 05:07:57,863
Kevin Faulkner a compliment

7447
05:07:57,863 --> 05:07:58,564
That was hilarious to have him

7448
05:07:58,564 --> 05:08:01,564
standing in the building with

7449
05:08:02,801 --> 05:08:03,435
Hillary if again

7450
05:08:03,435 --> 05:08:05,435
the desperation for

7451
05:08:07,506 --> 05:08:08,700
performative antics continues

7452
05:08:08,700 --> 05:08:10,407
we must stop it.

7453
05:08:12,611 --> 05:08:13,311
You made a mistake Come and ask

7454
05:08:13,311 --> 05:08:13,645
for forgiveness and let's move

7455
05:08:13,645 --> 05:08:15,645
forward.

7456
05:08:16,515 --> 05:08:17,182
Thank you.

7457
05:08:17,182 --> 05:08:19,582
>> Next is John Stump.

7458
05:08:21,153 --> 05:08:24,153
If you can please unmute.

7459
05:08:26,325 --> 05:08:27,250
Okay now you got a new

7460
05:08:27,250 --> 05:08:29,425
completely support this action

7461
05:08:30,695 --> 05:08:30,996
It was a mistake in the first

7462
05:08:30,996 --> 05:08:32,996
place.

7463
05:08:35,333 --> 05:08:39,533
You knew it was a mistake but

7464
05:08:40,338 --> 05:08:41,173
you've got to get back to why

7465
05:08:41,173 --> 05:08:44,773
do we have a ballpark ballpark

7466
05:08:45,176 --> 05:08:48,776
for those that you don't know

7467
05:08:49,615 --> 05:08:50,483
was to preserve a watershed

7468
05:08:50,483 --> 05:08:53,483
The only viable watershed for

7469
05:08:55,287 --> 05:08:56,880
downtown It was a public park

7470
05:08:56,880 --> 05:08:59,880
until somebody came up with

7471
05:09:00,493 --> 05:09:01,393
the idea let's have a fair And

7472
05:09:01,393 --> 05:09:04,963
then they built all that junk

7473
05:09:04,963 --> 05:09:09,163
and turn it turned a park into

7474
05:09:09,602 --> 05:09:10,603
an amusement park.

7475
05:09:10,603 --> 05:09:11,337
What you need to do to make up

7476
05:09:11,337 --> 05:09:12,171
this private You know what I've

7477
05:09:12,171 --> 05:09:14,171
told you before?

7478
05:09:17,643 --> 05:09:18,411
It's those amusements in

7479
05:09:18,411 --> 05:09:21,411
the park that make significant

7480
05:09:22,482 --> 05:09:25,482
money like the Old Globe,

7481
05:09:27,486 --> 05:09:31,860
the zoo, art museum, the space

7482
05:09:32,910 --> 05:09:32,827
theater.

7483
05:09:32,827 --> 05:09:35,827
They have to contribute their

7484
05:09:36,195 --> 05:09:36,562
share of the revenues they they

7485
05:09:36,562 --> 05:09:38,562
generate.

7486
05:09:40,650 --> 05:09:40,766
Look at their nine 90s, see how

7487
05:09:40,766 --> 05:09:44,366
much cash is coming in if

7488
05:09:44,637 --> 05:09:45,271
they're paying anybody over

7489
05:09:45,271 --> 05:09:45,571
$200,000 they've got extra

7490
05:09:45,571 --> 05:09:47,571
cash.

7491
05:09:49,875 --> 05:09:50,643
>> They're paying you.

7492
05:09:50,643 --> 05:09:53,430
>> Thank you very much.

7493
05:09:55,248 --> 05:09:55,615
Thank you All three speakers

7494
05:09:55,615 --> 05:09:56,315
Thank you.

7495
05:09:56,315 --> 05:09:56,749
There are three speakers left

7496
05:09:56,749 --> 05:09:58,684
in the queue.

7497
05:09:58,684 --> 05:09:59,285
The five minute timer has

7498
05:09:59,285 --> 05:09:59,885
concluded no additional

7499
05:09:59,885 --> 05:10:00,620
speakers will be taken.

7500
05:10:00,620 --> 05:10:03,656
Blair Beckman if you can please

7501
05:10:03,656 --> 05:10:06,656
unmute that short amount of

7502
05:10:07,794 --> 05:10:08,528
time where Big Ben my zoom cut

7503
05:10:08,528 --> 05:10:08,928
out previously I'm really sorry

7504
05:10:08,928 --> 05:10:09,562
about that.

7505
05:10:09,562 --> 05:10:12,562
I wanted to speak with

7506
05:10:13,265 --> 05:10:14,200
firefighters around.

7507
05:10:14,200 --> 05:10:14,534
I wanted to up my local public

7508
05:10:14,534 --> 05:10:16,534
comment.

7509
05:10:16,836 --> 05:10:17,336
Hopefully I can my items can be

7510
05:10:17,336 --> 05:10:18,104
relevant later.

7511
05:10:18,104 --> 05:10:21,704
Thank you for this item and

7512
05:10:21,974 --> 05:10:22,608
that you have in the way you're

7513
05:10:22,608 --> 05:10:23,309
working your you're being

7514
05:10:23,309 --> 05:10:26,578
flexible and how you can work

7515
05:10:26,578 --> 05:10:26,979
And I find that really

7516
05:10:26,979 --> 05:10:27,346
interesting.

7517
05:10:27,346 --> 05:10:27,980
Thank you.

7518
05:10:27,980 --> 05:10:31,451
I like the words of Joyce

7519
05:10:31,451 --> 05:10:32,118
Sonata I would think kind of

7520
05:10:32,118 --> 05:10:32,752
agreement and how Joyce was

7521
05:10:32,752 --> 05:10:35,752
thinking we really need to

7522
05:10:36,589 --> 05:10:37,456
consider revenue ideas and this

7523
05:10:37,456 --> 05:10:40,826
I thought was a way to do it.

7524
05:10:40,826 --> 05:10:41,594
You had a speaker, MR. Kaminski

7525
05:10:41,594 --> 05:10:41,927
works on the Park Commission

7526
05:10:41,927 --> 05:10:42,595
process.

7527
05:10:42,595 --> 05:10:45,595
He's been very elegant this

7528
05:10:46,766 --> 05:10:47,499
past month how to address

7529
05:10:47,499 --> 05:10:48,167
the baseball park issues And he

7530
05:10:48,167 --> 05:10:51,710
mentioned the idea you know,

7531
05:10:51,710 --> 05:10:54,671
you could have fares for $2 and

7532
05:10:54,974 --> 05:10:55,642
$5 and that would be a much

7533
05:10:55,642 --> 05:10:56,209
more sensible and reasonable

7534
05:10:56,209 --> 05:10:56,876
approach that respects

7535
05:10:56,876 --> 05:10:59,276
the concepts of government.

7536
05:11:00,880 --> 05:11:01,247
You know, in how you use set

7537
05:11:01,247 --> 05:11:03,247
set fees.

7538
05:11:04,316 --> 05:11:04,984
I mean you guys are putting

7539
05:11:04,984 --> 05:11:05,685
fees like rock stars, like

7540
05:11:05,685 --> 05:11:09,285
we're all rock stars or that

7541
05:11:09,355 --> 05:11:10,290
we're a big private corporation

7542
05:11:10,290 --> 05:11:14,490
And I felt that was the really

7543
05:11:14,493 --> 05:11:15,195
wrong approach And I think you

7544
05:11:15,195 --> 05:11:15,895
could have done a lot more

7545
05:11:15,895 --> 05:11:18,895
reasonably and very much with

7546
05:11:18,999 --> 05:11:19,666
thank you to people like Paul

7547
05:11:19,666 --> 05:11:20,366
Kruger who really tried to

7548
05:11:20,366 --> 05:11:23,966
point out how the fee process

7549
05:11:24,537 --> 05:11:25,710
was actually trying to work and

7550
05:11:25,710 --> 05:11:25,738
you guys are having

7551
05:11:25,738 --> 05:11:26,172
difficulties to explain that

7552
05:11:26,172 --> 05:11:28,172
more clearly.

7553
05:11:29,542 --> 05:11:30,343
I tried my darndest to help

7554
05:11:30,343 --> 05:11:31,100
just to help that and I think

7555
05:11:31,100 --> 05:11:33,410
we're we're learning that

7556
05:11:34,514 --> 05:11:35,181
accountability better and I

7557
05:11:35,181 --> 05:11:35,649
hope we remember that lesson

7558
05:11:35,649 --> 05:11:37,649
for the future.

7559
05:11:37,784 --> 05:11:38,652
>> Thank you am has concluded

7560
05:11:38,652 --> 05:11:41,652
Samantha if you can please

7561
05:11:43,190 --> 05:11:43,957
unmute get it afternoon It's my

7562
05:11:43,957 --> 05:11:46,957
first time trying to speak

7563
05:11:47,293 --> 05:11:47,927
remotely.

7564
05:11:47,927 --> 05:11:48,428
>> Can you hear me?

7565
05:11:48,428 --> 05:11:48,894
Yes we can.

7566
05:11:48,894 --> 05:11:50,894
Please proceed.

7567
05:11:52,765 --> 05:11:53,299
Okay first of all thank you to

7568
05:11:53,299 --> 05:11:55,299
the council members.

7569
05:11:56,670 --> 05:11:57,370
This is my first time paying

7570
05:11:57,370 --> 05:12:00,370
attention to a full Budget

7571
05:12:01,608 --> 05:12:02,242
committee process and over

7572
05:12:02,242 --> 05:12:05,842
the last few weeks and I'm

7573
05:12:05,879 --> 05:12:06,679
going I find it very

7574
05:12:06,679 --> 05:12:09,679
inspirational and I feel that

7575
05:12:11,118 --> 05:12:11,852
the community has been able to

7576
05:12:11,852 --> 05:12:14,852
speak And oftentimes I've heard

7577
05:12:15,122 --> 05:12:15,855
council members say before

7578
05:12:15,855 --> 05:12:16,523
going to public comment let's

7579
05:12:16,523 --> 05:12:16,790
hear what the public has to

7580
05:12:16,790 --> 05:12:18,790
say.

7581
05:12:20,494 --> 05:12:24,694
And so I hope that the public

7582
05:12:25,970 --> 05:12:25,966
is listening all all ages from

7583
05:12:25,966 --> 05:12:28,966
high school and every decade

7584
05:12:30,804 --> 05:12:34,404
beyond And this is an example

7585
05:12:34,740 --> 05:12:35,442
of it And I'm very thankful

7586
05:12:35,442 --> 05:12:36,143
that they've listened and will

7587
05:12:36,143 --> 05:12:39,143
be removing the parking fees

7588
05:12:40,280 --> 05:12:40,948
Now some revenue suggestions

7589
05:12:40,948 --> 05:12:44,548
and some of these have been

7590
05:12:44,785 --> 05:12:45,552
stated over the last few weeks

7591
05:12:45,552 --> 05:12:47,952
naming rights to specific

7592
05:12:49,923 --> 05:12:50,791
public areas within the city of

7593
05:12:50,791 --> 05:12:54,194
San Diego and these could be

7594
05:12:54,194 --> 05:12:57,194
naming rights that are each

7595
05:12:58,632 --> 05:12:59,233
year and they could go to bid

7596
05:12:59,233 --> 05:12:59,866
for corporations or even

7597
05:12:59,866 --> 05:13:02,266
individuals could bid for

7598
05:13:03,504 --> 05:13:04,171
naming rights and that would

7599
05:13:04,171 --> 05:13:04,972
only last a year And every

7600
05:13:04,972 --> 05:13:08,572
year, you know have the same

7601
05:13:10,444 --> 05:13:11,378
sort of submission process.

7602
05:13:11,378 --> 05:13:14,378
You know, another thing would

7603
05:13:15,815 --> 05:13:16,416
be a shuttle I'm sorry That

7604
05:13:16,416 --> 05:13:18,816
does conclude your time.

7605
05:13:20,454 --> 05:13:21,121
I can definitely send in

7606
05:13:21,121 --> 05:13:21,755
additional comments The city

7607
05:13:21,755 --> 05:13:24,291
clerk at San diego.Gov and

7608
05:13:24,291 --> 05:13:26,691
those will be distributed

7609
05:13:30,798 --> 05:13:31,599
Margaret Very similar.

7610
05:13:31,599 --> 05:13:31,932
>> And then our final speakers

7611
05:13:31,932 --> 05:13:32,700
honors.

7612
05:13:32,700 --> 05:13:34,100
Hi, my name is Margaret for a

7613
05:13:34,100 --> 05:13:34,635
small founder of San Diego

7614
05:13:34,635 --> 05:13:35,202
United Communities.

7615
05:13:35,202 --> 05:13:37,602
I'm here today because

7616
05:13:38,705 --> 05:13:39,390
the people of the city are done

7617
05:13:39,390 --> 05:13:39,707
waiting.

7618
05:13:39,707 --> 05:13:40,407
We are here to demand

7619
05:13:40,407 --> 05:13:43,407
the immediate repeal of these

7620
05:13:44,744 --> 05:13:45,112
fees not next year, not in 2027

7621
05:13:45,112 --> 05:13:45,778
but today.

7622
05:13:45,778 --> 05:13:48,778
Every day the council delays

7623
05:13:49,316 --> 05:13:50,500
you are choosing to balance

7624
05:13:50,500 --> 05:13:50,416
your budget on the backs of our

7625
05:13:50,416 --> 05:13:51,510
residents.

7626
05:13:51,510 --> 05:13:54,510
You call it fiscal policy.

7627
05:13:54,522 --> 05:13:55,155
We call it systematic

7628
05:13:55,155 --> 05:13:57,555
extraction of wealth from

7629
05:13:58,759 --> 05:13:59,459
families who are already

7630
05:13:59,459 --> 05:14:00,940
struggling to keep the lights

7631
05:14:00,940 --> 05:14:03,630
on and food on the table.

7632
05:14:03,630 --> 05:14:03,731
You are effectively telling

7633
05:14:03,731 --> 05:14:04,265
the people of San Diego that

7634
05:14:04,265 --> 05:14:04,965
your administration

7635
05:14:04,965 --> 05:14:06,965
administrative convenience is

7636
05:14:08,202 --> 05:14:08,569
more important than their

7637
05:14:08,569 --> 05:14:09,270
survival.

7638
05:14:09,270 --> 05:14:12,870
This delay is an insult to

7639
05:14:13,340 --> 05:14:13,708
thousands of signatures we have

7640
05:14:13,708 --> 05:14:15,708
collected.

7641
05:14:17,678 --> 05:14:18,378
It is dereliction of your duty

7642
05:14:18,378 --> 05:14:19,460
to represent the people of San

7643
05:14:19,460 --> 05:14:21,446
Diego, not the bureaucracy.

7644
05:14:22,950 --> 05:14:23,618
You know these fees are unjust

7645
05:14:23,618 --> 05:14:24,520
and you all know they are

7646
05:14:24,520 --> 05:14:26,520
unsustainable.

7647
05:14:27,622 --> 05:14:28,222
You continue to hold them over

7648
05:14:28,222 --> 05:14:31,222
our heads waiting for an

7649
05:14:32,930 --> 05:14:32,894
arbitrary date on a calendar

7650
05:14:32,894 --> 05:14:36,494
year that benefits no one but

7651
05:14:36,597 --> 05:14:36,897
the architects of this tax hike

7652
05:14:36,897 --> 05:14:37,665
.

7653
05:14:37,665 --> 05:14:38,332
We are finished with being told

7654
05:14:38,332 --> 05:14:38,633
to wait for the next budget

7655
05:14:38,633 --> 05:14:40,633
cycle.

7656
05:14:41,969 --> 05:14:42,703
We are finished with empty

7657
05:14:42,703 --> 05:14:43,404
promises of future relief while

7658
05:14:43,404 --> 05:14:46,404
our park accounts are drained

7659
05:14:46,473 --> 05:14:47,108
in present.

7660
05:14:47,108 --> 05:14:50,108
If you truly believe in

7661
05:14:50,344 --> 05:14:50,978
the economic vitality of our

7662
05:14:50,978 --> 05:14:51,645
neighborhoods you have one

7663
05:14:51,645 --> 05:14:52,346
choice Vote to strike these

7664
05:14:52,346 --> 05:14:55,516
fees out today off your books

7665
05:14:55,516 --> 05:14:56,316
effective immediately If you

7666
05:14:56,316 --> 05:14:57,840
choose to keep them in place do

7667
05:14:57,840 --> 05:15:00,840
not pretend you don't know

7668
05:15:00,888 --> 05:15:01,455
the harm you are causing.

7669
05:15:01,455 --> 05:15:01,923
>> We are watching.

7670
05:15:01,923 --> 05:15:02,423
We are waiting.

7671
05:15:02,423 --> 05:15:04,423
We are organized.

7672
05:15:05,125 --> 05:15:05,794
Repeal the fees today And then

7673
05:15:05,794 --> 05:15:08,794
Leonard, are you wanting to

7674
05:15:12,499 --> 05:15:12,834
speak on the paid parking fees

7675
05:15:12,834 --> 05:15:14,834
?

7676
05:15:17,705 --> 05:15:18,373
I cannot vote for you so I will

7677
05:15:18,373 --> 05:15:21,373
have to go conclude public.

7678
05:15:23,110 --> 05:15:23,544
>> I'm sorry I was waiting to

7679
05:15:23,544 --> 05:15:23,845
speak on the trash.

7680
05:15:23,845 --> 05:15:24,345
Okay.

7681
05:15:24,345 --> 05:15:26,745
That will be next.

7682
05:15:27,114 --> 05:15:27,715
That does conclude public

7683
05:15:27,715 --> 05:15:28,215
comment on this item.

7684
05:15:28,215 --> 05:15:28,883
>> All right.

7685
05:15:28,883 --> 05:15:31,883
Thank you, City clerk We'll

7686
05:15:31,953 --> 05:15:32,553
turn it over to the council for

7687
05:15:32,553 --> 05:15:33,221
questions, comments and

7688
05:15:33,221 --> 05:15:36,221
entertain a motion and we'll

7689
05:15:37,392 --> 05:15:38,580
start out with the architect of

7690
05:15:38,580 --> 05:15:40,458
the settlement agreement is

7691
05:15:42,620 --> 05:15:42,463
council member Whippany.

7692
05:15:42,463 --> 05:15:43,297
Thank you.

7693
05:15:43,297 --> 05:15:44,980
And I want to thank everyone at

7694
05:15:44,980 --> 05:15:46,201
the city who has worked on this

7695
05:15:46,201 --> 05:15:46,768
M.B.A General Manager Michaels

7696
05:15:46,768 --> 05:15:47,335
who cared our council

7697
05:15:47,335 --> 05:15:49,335
PRESIDENT, my council

7698
05:15:51,172 --> 05:15:51,806
colleagues who supported this

7699
05:15:51,806 --> 05:15:52,373
in closed session Rolando

7700
05:15:52,373 --> 05:15:54,373
Chevelle, the Finance

7701
05:15:56,211 --> 05:15:56,945
department, the office of

7702
05:15:56,945 --> 05:15:57,645
the Independent Budget analyst,

7703
05:15:57,645 --> 05:15:58,279
the mayor's office and several

7704
05:15:58,279 --> 05:16:00,679
city departments have been

7705
05:16:01,683 --> 05:16:02,350
involved with this action.

7706
05:16:02,350 --> 05:16:04,750
We are formally approving

7707
05:16:06,254 --> 05:16:06,654
the repeal of paid parking at

7708
05:16:06,654 --> 05:16:07,355
Balboa Park.

7709
05:16:07,355 --> 05:16:07,789
We will restore free parking

7710
05:16:07,789 --> 05:16:09,789
for everyone.

7711
05:16:11,793 --> 05:16:12,527
We will restore free parking

7712
05:16:12,527 --> 05:16:13,228
broadly at the parking lots but

7713
05:16:13,228 --> 05:16:16,364
also add the streets in Balboa

7714
05:16:16,364 --> 05:16:17,640
Park and we will refund any

7715
05:16:17,640 --> 05:16:20,640
portion of annual passes that

7716
05:16:21,502 --> 05:16:21,803
extends beyond the end of this

7717
05:16:21,803 --> 05:16:22,504
year.

7718
05:16:22,504 --> 05:16:23,171
I appreciate the comments of

7719
05:16:23,171 --> 05:16:26,171
MR. Kopecky about the Balboa

7720
05:16:26,207 --> 05:16:26,874
Park Cultural Partnership

7721
05:16:26,874 --> 05:16:27,409
representing the museums and

7722
05:16:27,409 --> 05:16:28,109
the arts and culture

7723
05:16:28,109 --> 05:16:30,845
organizations at the park who

7724
05:16:30,845 --> 05:16:31,313
shared that this repeal carrot

7725
05:16:31,313 --> 05:16:32,460
club suited us.

7726
05:16:32,460 --> 05:16:35,884
I will make the motion to adopt

7727
05:16:35,884 --> 05:16:36,551
the proposed actions and repeal

7728
05:16:36,551 --> 05:16:36,918
paid parking in Balboa Park.

7729
05:16:36,918 --> 05:16:37,285
All right.

7730
05:16:37,285 --> 05:16:39,285
Thank you.

7731
05:16:41,389 --> 05:16:42,224
Council member Whitburn.

7732
05:16:42,224 --> 05:16:42,924
So we have a motion to move

7733
05:16:42,924 --> 05:16:43,257
The staff recommendation will

7734
05:16:43,257 --> 05:16:45,257
go next.

7735
05:16:45,526 --> 05:16:46,940
Councilmember Camp you Thank

7736
05:16:46,940 --> 05:16:48,940
you Council PRESIDENT.

7737
05:16:50,264 --> 05:16:50,965
I'll happily second his motion

7738
05:16:50,965 --> 05:16:51,633
unless your council PRESIDENT

7739
05:16:51,633 --> 05:16:52,660
Would like to second it all.

7740
05:16:52,660 --> 05:16:54,660
>> Thank you.

7741
05:16:55,470 --> 05:16:56,204
Today's action Thank you

7742
05:16:56,204 --> 05:16:56,905
Councilmember Whitburn for your

7743
05:16:56,905 --> 05:16:57,505
hard work on this And today's

7744
05:16:57,505 --> 05:16:59,707
action is a victory for

7745
05:16:59,707 --> 05:17:00,442
accessibility and affordability

7746
05:17:00,442 --> 05:17:03,245
and a crown jewel of San Diego.

7747
05:17:03,245 --> 05:17:03,879
I was proud to have been one of

7748
05:17:03,879 --> 05:17:04,579
the councilmembers to vote

7749
05:17:04,579 --> 05:17:05,246
against paid parking in Balboa

7750
05:17:05,246 --> 05:17:08,246
Park last OCTOBER because I

7751
05:17:08,650 --> 05:17:09,317
believed then as I do now that

7752
05:17:09,317 --> 05:17:09,985
access to one of San Diego's

7753
05:17:09,985 --> 05:17:12,385
most treasured public places

7754
05:17:13,121 --> 05:17:13,788
should not come with the added

7755
05:17:13,788 --> 05:17:14,489
financial burden especially

7756
05:17:14,489 --> 05:17:17,625
based on where you live in our

7757
05:17:17,625 --> 05:17:18,159
region because Balboa Park

7758
05:17:18,159 --> 05:17:18,794
belongs to everyone.

7759
05:17:18,794 --> 05:17:19,527
It's a gathering place for

7760
05:17:19,527 --> 05:17:22,527
families and it's a destination

7761
05:17:22,531 --> 05:17:23,198
for visitors from across

7762
05:17:23,198 --> 05:17:23,931
the region and the world And

7763
05:17:23,931 --> 05:17:26,935
it's a source of recreation and

7764
05:17:26,935 --> 05:17:27,702
enrichment for residents.

7765
05:17:27,702 --> 05:17:28,436
It's a vital source for seniors

7766
05:17:28,436 --> 05:17:28,970
who rely on the parks, cultural

7767
05:17:28,970 --> 05:17:30,970
and educational and

7768
05:17:32,107 --> 05:17:32,975
recreational opportunities.

7769
05:17:32,975 --> 05:17:33,675
So this decision will not only

7770
05:17:33,675 --> 05:17:36,750
benefit museums and theaters,

7771
05:17:36,978 --> 05:17:37,613
gardens and nonprofit

7772
05:17:37,613 --> 05:17:38,313
organizations and cultural

7773
05:17:38,313 --> 05:17:38,980
institutions that make Balboa

7774
05:17:38,980 --> 05:17:41,883
Park the heart of civic and

7775
05:17:41,883 --> 05:17:42,250
cultural life, it benefits

7776
05:17:42,250 --> 05:17:42,951
everyone.

7777
05:17:42,951 --> 05:17:43,652
Of course these organizations

7778
05:17:43,652 --> 05:17:46,652
depend on visitors and members

7779
05:17:46,988 --> 05:17:47,723
volunteers and community

7780
05:17:47,723 --> 05:17:48,423
engagement making the park more

7781
05:17:48,423 --> 05:17:48,856
accessible to lower income and

7782
05:17:48,856 --> 05:17:50,856
middle class.

7783
05:17:52,940 --> 05:17:52,828
San Diego and help strengthen

7784
05:17:52,828 --> 05:17:53,529
those institutions that educate

7785
05:17:53,529 --> 05:17:53,862
our children and preserve our

7786
05:17:53,862 --> 05:17:55,862
history.

7787
05:17:56,665 --> 05:17:57,332
Celebrate our diversity and

7788
05:17:57,332 --> 05:17:57,833
contribute significantly to

7789
05:17:57,833 --> 05:17:59,833
the local economy.

7790
05:18:00,701 --> 05:18:01,403
Whether you're a senior

7791
05:18:01,403 --> 05:18:02,104
visiting museum or a family

7792
05:18:02,104 --> 05:18:05,104
attending a community event or

7793
05:18:06,410 --> 05:18:06,809
a volunteer supporting a

7794
05:18:06,809 --> 05:18:09,809
nonprofit or just a visitor

7795
05:18:09,945 --> 05:18:10,578
experience San Diego for

7796
05:18:10,578 --> 05:18:11,313
the first time this repeal

7797
05:18:11,313 --> 05:18:14,549
makes it easier to enjoy one of

7798
05:18:14,549 --> 05:18:15,500
the city's greatest public

7799
05:18:15,500 --> 05:18:15,884
assets.

7800
05:18:15,884 --> 05:18:16,551
So I want to thank the members

7801
05:18:16,551 --> 05:18:17,219
of the public who rallied to

7802
05:18:17,219 --> 05:18:19,654
show just how important this

7803
05:18:19,654 --> 05:18:20,221
repeal was is and

7804
05:18:20,221 --> 05:18:20,822
the organizations like

7805
05:18:20,822 --> 05:18:23,222
the Balboa Park Cultural

7806
05:18:24,460 --> 05:18:25,160
Partnership and Forever, Bilbao

7807
05:18:25,160 --> 05:18:25,794
Balboa Park, the Old Globe and

7808
05:18:25,794 --> 05:18:28,194
the Model Railroad Museum,

7809
05:18:29,598 --> 05:18:30,265
the Prado the Air and Space

7810
05:18:30,265 --> 05:18:30,966
Museum, the Men\ World Beach

7811
05:18:30,966 --> 05:18:33,369
Cultural Center I could go on

7812
05:18:33,369 --> 05:18:34,203
and on and on and on.

7813
05:18:34,203 --> 05:18:34,870
I remain committed to policies

7814
05:18:34,870 --> 05:18:37,870
that expand access to public

7815
05:18:38,400 --> 05:18:38,740
spaces like these and support

7816
05:18:38,740 --> 05:18:39,275
our residents and visitors and

7817
05:18:39,275 --> 05:18:39,875
institutions alike.

7818
05:18:39,875 --> 05:18:40,509
And I hope this is just

7819
05:18:40,509 --> 05:18:43,509
the beginning of the City

7820
05:18:43,512 --> 05:18:44,179
Council advocating for and

7821
05:18:44,179 --> 05:18:44,713
investing in Balboa Park in

7822
05:18:44,713 --> 05:18:47,113
the way it deserves.

7823
05:18:49,385 --> 05:18:49,718
Thank you that I'll conclude my

7824
05:18:49,718 --> 05:18:50,152
second.

7825
05:18:50,152 --> 05:18:50,886
>> All right.

7826
05:18:50,886 --> 05:18:53,286
Thank you, Councilmember Campo.

7827
05:18:53,322 --> 05:18:56,922
We have I could have gotten

7828
05:18:57,493 --> 05:18:58,227
that applause You still can We

7829
05:18:58,227 --> 05:18:58,827
have a motion by council member

7830
05:18:58,827 --> 05:19:01,827
Whitburn and a second by

7831
05:19:02,264 --> 05:19:02,798
Council member Campo to move

7832
05:19:02,798 --> 05:19:03,531
the recommendation.

7833
05:19:03,531 --> 05:19:03,865
We'll go next to Council member

7834
05:19:03,865 --> 05:19:05,865
Moreno.

7835
05:19:06,868 --> 05:19:07,370
Thank you and thank you for

7836
05:19:07,370 --> 05:19:08,103
the presentation.

7837
05:19:08,103 --> 05:19:11,640
This item is before us today As

7838
05:19:11,640 --> 05:19:12,374
a result of the recent

7839
05:19:12,374 --> 05:19:14,774
settlement regarding the city's

7840
05:19:16,412 --> 05:19:17,146
solid waste management fee as

7841
05:19:17,146 --> 05:19:17,813
part of the settlement the City

7842
05:19:17,813 --> 05:19:20,813
Council is required to take

7843
05:19:21,116 --> 05:19:21,784
certain discretionary actions

7844
05:19:21,784 --> 05:19:24,184
in public meetings including

7845
05:19:24,553 --> 05:19:25,321
the action before us today.

7846
05:19:25,321 --> 05:19:26,210
One of the reasons I voted

7847
05:19:26,210 --> 05:19:29,210
against last year's budget was

7848
05:19:29,492 --> 05:19:30,159
because it relied on revenue

7849
05:19:30,159 --> 05:19:33,159
from paid parking in Balboa

7850
05:19:34,330 --> 05:19:34,730
Park to help close the city's

7851
05:19:34,730 --> 05:19:35,497
budget gap.

7852
05:19:35,497 --> 05:19:38,834
I also oppose paid parking in

7853
05:19:38,834 --> 05:19:39,569
Balboa Park when it was first

7854
05:19:39,569 --> 05:19:42,569
proposed and I remained opposed

7855
05:19:44,400 --> 05:19:44,841
to it Today Balboa Park is one

7856
05:19:44,841 --> 05:19:47,841
of San Diego's most treasured

7857
05:19:48,311 --> 05:19:49,378
parks.

7858
05:19:49,378 --> 05:19:52,978
Let me say that again Balboa

7859
05:19:53,415 --> 05:19:57,615
Park is one of San Diego's most

7860
05:19:57,854 --> 05:19:59,854
treasured parks.

7861
05:20:02,925 --> 05:20:03,658
It belongs to all San Diegans

7862
05:20:03,658 --> 05:20:06,580
including residents of District

7863
05:20:07,496 --> 05:20:08,970
eight and Access to it should

7864
05:20:08,970 --> 05:20:11,970
not depend on a person's

7865
05:20:11,968 --> 05:20:12,568
ability to pay.

7866
05:20:12,568 --> 05:20:13,202
During the discussion

7867
05:20:13,202 --> 05:20:16,202
surrounding the park fee I

7868
05:20:17,106 --> 05:20:17,808
raised concerns about growing

7869
05:20:17,808 --> 05:20:20,208
financial burdens being placed

7870
05:20:21,778 --> 05:20:22,445
on residents At the time

7871
05:20:22,445 --> 05:20:24,845
families were already facing

7872
05:20:26,249 --> 05:20:29,249
increases in water rates, user

7873
05:20:29,818 --> 05:20:30,486
fees and other rising costs for

7874
05:20:30,486 --> 05:20:32,886
residents and District eight

7875
05:20:34,590 --> 05:20:35,358
Every additional fee matters

7876
05:20:35,358 --> 05:20:38,358
Paid parking creates a barrier

7877
05:20:38,660 --> 05:20:39,261
that impacts the quality of

7878
05:20:39,261 --> 05:20:39,829
District eight residents

7879
05:20:39,829 --> 05:20:41,829
especially seniors and

7880
05:20:43,933 --> 05:20:44,767
especially low income.

7881
05:20:44,767 --> 05:20:48,471
I am very pleased to see this

7882
05:20:48,471 --> 05:20:49,172
item before us today and I know

7883
05:20:49,172 --> 05:20:52,172
that residents will once again

7884
05:20:52,642 --> 05:20:53,342
be able to enjoy Balboa Park

7885
05:20:53,342 --> 05:20:56,342
without having to navigate a

7886
05:20:57,980 --> 05:20:58,681
very complicated system very

7887
05:20:58,681 --> 05:21:01,681
complicated parking fee that I

7888
05:21:02,352 --> 05:21:05,352
couldn't even figure out and

7889
05:21:06,789 --> 05:21:07,657
including its time limits

7890
05:21:07,657 --> 05:21:11,257
Balboa Park will continue to be

7891
05:21:11,828 --> 05:21:12,495
a Nexus hub where San Diegans

7892
05:21:12,495 --> 05:21:14,495
experience culture history

7893
05:21:17,499 --> 05:21:18,368
knowledge maybe even a date.

7894
05:21:18,368 --> 05:21:21,671
Can we even say that right now?

7895
05:21:21,671 --> 05:21:22,505
Maybe even a date?

7896
05:21:22,505 --> 05:21:23,173
So for constituents in District

7897
05:21:23,173 --> 05:21:25,573
eight every additional cost

7898
05:21:25,842 --> 05:21:26,542
matter.

7899
05:21:26,542 --> 05:21:27,276
So removing these parking fees

7900
05:21:27,276 --> 05:21:30,876
helps ensure that access to one

7901
05:21:31,380 --> 05:21:31,715
of our most treasured public

7902
05:21:31,715 --> 05:21:32,381
spaces.

7903
05:21:32,381 --> 05:21:35,981
I'm glad to see Balboa Park

7904
05:21:36,252 --> 05:21:36,919
once again become a place that

7905
05:21:36,919 --> 05:21:39,856
is open and accessible to my

7906
05:21:39,856 --> 05:21:40,590
residents and District eight

7907
05:21:40,590 --> 05:21:41,291
reflecting the values that make

7908
05:21:41,291 --> 05:21:44,891
San Diego the city we're also

7909
05:21:45,294 --> 05:21:46,162
proud to call home.

7910
05:21:46,162 --> 05:21:49,566
Now I would be remiss if I

7911
05:21:49,566 --> 05:21:50,266
didn't think Zoo Cat with a my

7912
05:21:50,266 --> 05:21:50,867
colleague Stephen Whitburn and

7913
05:21:50,867 --> 05:21:53,267
all parties involved in

7914
05:21:54,737 --> 05:21:55,405
the settlement of this case.

7915
05:21:55,405 --> 05:21:56,139
So I will be extremely

7916
05:21:56,139 --> 05:21:59,139
supportive of the motion before

7917
05:22:00,543 --> 05:22:00,910
us today and I think everybody

7918
05:22:00,910 --> 05:22:01,278
involved.

7919
05:22:01,278 --> 05:22:01,878
All right.

7920
05:22:01,878 --> 05:22:02,211
Thank you, Councilmember

7921
05:22:02,211 --> 05:22:02,913
Moreno.

7922
05:22:02,913 --> 05:22:05,448
We'll go next to Councilmember

7923
05:22:05,448 --> 05:22:06,490
Isla Rivera.

7924
05:22:06,490 --> 05:22:06,416
>> Thank you, Council

7925
05:22:06,416 --> 05:22:07,116
PRESIDENT.

7926
05:22:07,116 --> 05:22:09,853
Let me start by thanking

7927
05:22:09,853 --> 05:22:10,487
COUNCILMAN Whitburn, you

7928
05:22:10,487 --> 05:22:11,121
council PRESIDENT For your

7929
05:22:11,121 --> 05:22:13,521
engagement on this issue.

7930
05:22:14,524 --> 05:22:15,225
I also want to thank Emily, you

7931
05:22:15,225 --> 05:22:16,192
and all the staff that worked

7932
05:22:16,192 --> 05:22:19,396
so hard to get this set up an

7933
05:22:19,396 --> 05:22:22,996
enormous amount of time was put

7934
05:22:24,234 --> 05:22:24,900
into this And as frustrated as

7935
05:22:24,900 --> 05:22:27,900
many of us including myself

7936
05:22:28,772 --> 05:22:29,439
were with with the roll out,

7937
05:22:29,439 --> 05:22:31,475
that doesn't negate that an

7938
05:22:31,475 --> 05:22:31,775
immense effort was put into it

7939
05:22:31,775 --> 05:22:33,775
.

7940
05:22:36,480 --> 05:22:39,480
So thank you for that.

7941
05:22:40,817 --> 05:22:41,117
So I think this is largely

7942
05:22:41,117 --> 05:22:41,784
good.

7943
05:22:41,784 --> 05:22:42,685
I'm going to name one thing

7944
05:22:42,685 --> 05:22:44,121
that I don't actually think is

7945
05:22:44,121 --> 05:22:47,721
in the best interest of San

7946
05:22:48,925 --> 05:22:49,526
Diego is here access to

7947
05:22:49,526 --> 05:22:51,926
the park for residents?

7948
05:22:54,131 --> 05:22:54,931
Absolutely.

7949
05:22:54,931 --> 05:22:58,531
From the beginning I thought it

7950
05:22:58,602 --> 05:22:59,302
should be free and I do not

7951
05:22:59,302 --> 05:23:00,360
think San Diego is better off

7952
05:23:00,360 --> 05:23:03,360
when we subsidize the vacations

7953
05:23:03,739 --> 05:23:04,708
of folks who are expecting to

7954
05:23:04,708 --> 05:23:08,679
pay to park here And we can

7955
05:23:08,679 --> 05:23:09,746
disagree on that.

7956
05:23:09,746 --> 05:23:13,783
But it is not better for San

7957
05:23:13,783 --> 05:23:14,584
Diego to allow free parking for

7958
05:23:14,584 --> 05:23:18,184
his or for someone who flew

7959
05:23:18,555 --> 05:23:19,256
across country and rented a car

7960
05:23:19,256 --> 05:23:19,957
and expected and expected full

7961
05:23:19,957 --> 05:23:21,157
well that they would be paying

7962
05:23:21,157 --> 05:23:23,157
for parking.

7963
05:23:26,530 --> 05:23:30,130
>> So it is a conversation I

7964
05:23:30,501 --> 05:23:34,101
think we need to wrestle with

7965
05:23:35,872 --> 05:23:36,473
which is commitment to keeping

7966
05:23:36,473 --> 05:23:38,873
costs down for residents

7967
05:23:40,711 --> 05:23:41,512
without having them subsidize

7968
05:23:41,512 --> 05:23:42,312
in other ways the experiences

7969
05:23:42,312 --> 05:23:45,782
of people or people who are

7970
05:23:45,782 --> 05:23:46,450
vacationing here slightly

7971
05:23:46,450 --> 05:23:48,850
different but not completely

7972
05:23:50,254 --> 05:23:50,921
unrelated is the way that

7973
05:23:50,921 --> 05:23:51,488
the rest of the county views

7974
05:23:51,488 --> 05:23:54,488
the city of San Diego.

7975
05:23:55,325 --> 05:23:55,993
I would be all for county

7976
05:23:55,993 --> 05:23:58,393
residents also having free

7977
05:24:00,431 --> 05:24:01,131
access.

7978
05:24:01,131 --> 05:24:04,131
Unfortunately when the city of

7979
05:24:04,701 --> 05:24:05,301
San Diego shows up to get our

7980
05:24:05,301 --> 05:24:05,902
fair share of regional

7981
05:24:05,902 --> 05:24:07,902
transportation dollars,

7982
05:24:09,873 --> 05:24:10,508
the cities who were most loud

7983
05:24:10,508 --> 05:24:11,142
who showed up at the press

7984
05:24:11,142 --> 05:24:13,542
conferences to demand free

7985
05:24:14,178 --> 05:24:14,979
parking for their residents

7986
05:24:14,979 --> 05:24:17,379
actively block our cities

7987
05:24:19,516 --> 05:24:20,217
proportional representation at

7988
05:24:20,217 --> 05:24:23,217
sandag and every every attempt

7989
05:24:23,521 --> 05:24:24,187
we make for proportional

7990
05:24:24,187 --> 05:24:26,187
distribution of regional

7991
05:24:28,926 --> 05:24:29,226
transportation funds they do

7992
05:24:29,226 --> 05:24:29,927
that.

7993
05:24:29,927 --> 05:24:30,594
Those same mayors they sit on

7994
05:24:30,594 --> 05:24:32,362
that they sit at sandag and

7995
05:24:32,362 --> 05:24:34,362
they do that.

7996
05:24:38,301 --> 05:24:38,970
So again, I'm glad that we're

7997
05:24:38,970 --> 05:24:42,570
going to make the aloha free

7998
05:24:42,939 --> 05:24:43,607
for residents and let's not kid

7999
05:24:43,607 --> 05:24:44,341
ourselves that while we are

8000
05:24:44,341 --> 05:24:47,341
doing that we are also

8001
05:24:48,120 --> 05:24:48,879
subsidizing vacations for folks

8002
05:24:48,879 --> 05:24:52,582
who can afford to come here And

8003
05:24:52,582 --> 05:24:55,582
we are granting free access

8004
05:24:57,121 --> 05:24:57,989
which I understand the case for

8005
05:24:57,989 --> 05:25:01,589
for folks outside the city But

8006
05:25:02,593 --> 05:25:03,160
I think it's I think it's only

8007
05:25:03,160 --> 05:25:03,894
fair especially given

8008
05:25:03,894 --> 05:25:07,231
the conversation we just had We

8009
05:25:07,231 --> 05:25:07,966
just had firefighters and

8010
05:25:07,966 --> 05:25:08,799
lifeguards begging to be paid a

8011
05:25:08,799 --> 05:25:12,103
fair wage that they can stay

8012
05:25:12,103 --> 05:25:12,670
and stay working at this city

8013
05:25:12,670 --> 05:25:13,404
And we're going to be

8014
05:25:13,404 --> 05:25:15,804
subsidizing vacations and we're

8015
05:25:16,307 --> 05:25:17,410
going to be giving cities who

8016
05:25:17,410 --> 05:25:17,642
have who don't have the decency

8017
05:25:17,642 --> 05:25:20,420
to give us proportional

8018
05:25:21,612 --> 05:25:22,346
representation of our regional

8019
05:25:22,346 --> 05:25:22,880
transportation body giving them

8020
05:25:22,880 --> 05:25:25,280
free access as well.

8021
05:25:27,850 --> 05:25:27,585
So I appreciate the work that

8022
05:25:27,585 --> 05:25:29,985
was done on this.

8023
05:25:30,989 --> 05:25:31,856
I, I very much dislike that we

8024
05:25:31,856 --> 05:25:36,260
needed to take the path that we

8025
05:25:36,260 --> 05:25:36,794
took to get get here and I hope

8026
05:25:36,794 --> 05:25:37,528
that in the future we get to a

8027
05:25:37,528 --> 05:25:41,128
place where we are more willing

8028
05:25:41,165 --> 05:25:41,765
to stand on the fact that San

8029
05:25:41,765 --> 05:25:42,499
Diego is one of the most

8030
05:25:42,499 --> 05:25:44,499
attractive tourist destinations

8031
05:25:45,503 --> 05:25:46,371
in the country and asking folks

8032
05:25:46,371 --> 05:25:50,140
to pay to park when they are

8033
05:25:50,140 --> 05:25:50,941
vacationing here will not have

8034
05:25:50,941 --> 05:25:54,541
them fleeing San Diego We are

8035
05:25:54,611 --> 05:25:55,313
plenty beautiful and the things

8036
05:25:55,313 --> 05:25:58,913
that we have here are plenty

8037
05:25:59,550 --> 05:26:00,317
attractive to get folks to pay

8038
05:26:00,317 --> 05:26:00,887
their fair share and not our

8039
05:26:00,887 --> 05:26:03,287
San Diego residents to

8040
05:26:04,522 --> 05:26:05,890
subsidize those experiences.

8041
05:26:05,890 --> 05:26:05,456
>> Thank you, Council

8042
05:26:05,456 --> 05:26:05,823
PRESIDENT.

8043
05:26:05,823 --> 05:26:06,423
All right.

8044
05:26:06,423 --> 05:26:08,423
Thank you Councilmember.

8045
05:26:09,327 --> 05:26:10,940
You are not sitting very often

8046
05:26:10,940 --> 05:26:13,798
light fell off offer I guess a

8047
05:26:13,798 --> 05:26:14,532
couple of comments.

8048
05:26:14,532 --> 05:26:15,320
I'm not sure how much more

8049
05:26:15,320 --> 05:26:15,900
needs to be said.

8050
05:26:15,900 --> 05:26:19,203
You know, I I'm grateful for

8051
05:26:19,203 --> 05:26:19,871
the role I played in breaking

8052
05:26:19,871 --> 05:26:23,471
the glass door that said you

8053
05:26:23,842 --> 05:26:24,575
need to talk with everybody and

8054
05:26:24,575 --> 05:26:25,276
bring everybody to the table to

8055
05:26:25,276 --> 05:26:28,746
get to real solutions to very

8056
05:26:28,746 --> 05:26:29,514
real problems.

8057
05:26:29,514 --> 05:26:30,140
And while my initial effort

8058
05:26:30,140 --> 05:26:32,140
didn't quite work,

8059
05:26:33,784 --> 05:26:34,552
Councilmember Whitburn stepped

8060
05:26:34,552 --> 05:26:35,520
through that door and was able

8061
05:26:35,520 --> 05:26:38,656
to close the deal and end up at

8062
05:26:38,656 --> 05:26:39,524
the settlement agreement we

8063
05:26:39,524 --> 05:26:42,524
have here, it clearly as

8064
05:26:43,730 --> 05:26:44,796
the presentation showed it will

8065
05:26:44,796 --> 05:26:49,134
come at a cost And to be clear

8066
05:26:49,134 --> 05:26:49,801
Charles, there's no cost for

8067
05:26:49,801 --> 05:26:50,100
the removal of the existing

8068
05:26:50,100 --> 05:26:52,100
kiosk.

8069
05:26:53,704 --> 05:26:54,372
There's no cost for

8070
05:26:54,372 --> 05:26:55,730
the contract with the third

8071
05:26:55,730 --> 05:26:58,673
party vendor that we have or

8072
05:26:58,977 --> 05:26:59,311
nothing appreciable is that

8073
05:26:59,311 --> 05:27:00,111
correct?

8074
05:27:00,111 --> 05:27:03,711
There shouldn't be a cost to

8075
05:27:04,181 --> 05:27:04,849
terminate the well.

8076
05:27:04,849 --> 05:27:05,483
It's actually to reduce a

8077
05:27:05,483 --> 05:27:06,183
contract and we also have

8078
05:27:06,183 --> 05:27:06,918
meters elsewhere to the extent

8079
05:27:06,918 --> 05:27:08,586
that there's a cost to actually

8080
05:27:08,586 --> 05:27:09,254
move the kiosk themselves it

8081
05:27:09,254 --> 05:27:12,254
would likely be covered in

8082
05:27:13,525 --> 05:27:13,958
the reduced operating

8083
05:27:13,958 --> 05:27:14,693
expenditures.

8084
05:27:14,693 --> 05:27:15,326
They will have to actually have

8085
05:27:15,326 --> 05:27:17,726
enforcement So there's no

8086
05:27:18,196 --> 05:27:18,596
appreciable impact for that.

8087
05:27:18,596 --> 05:27:19,263
All right.

8088
05:27:19,263 --> 05:27:20,310
I thought that be the case.

8089
05:27:20,310 --> 05:27:23,680
But since we're caught up in

8090
05:27:23,680 --> 05:27:23,935
budget conversations I wanted

8091
05:27:23,935 --> 05:27:28,730
to I wanted to confirm that I

8092
05:27:28,730 --> 05:27:28,807
do want to thank the city

8093
05:27:28,807 --> 05:27:31,807
employees that moved heaven and

8094
05:27:32,743 --> 05:27:33,311
earth to make this happen.

8095
05:27:33,311 --> 05:27:34,379
I can see Emily.

8096
05:27:34,379 --> 05:27:38,500
I can see Conrad there way in

8097
05:27:38,500 --> 05:27:41,650
the back and every level from

8098
05:27:42,854 --> 05:27:43,388
the mayor's office through

8099
05:27:43,388 --> 05:27:43,889
the people that did

8100
05:27:43,889 --> 05:27:44,623
the installation.

8101
05:27:44,623 --> 05:27:47,392
You did a lot of work on it.

8102
05:27:47,392 --> 05:27:48,930
Very appreciative And this is

8103
05:27:48,930 --> 05:27:51,693
no reflection on the work that

8104
05:27:51,830 --> 05:27:52,497
you all did.

8105
05:27:52,497 --> 05:27:54,897
The timing was unfortunate.

8106
05:27:56,968 --> 05:27:57,669
The mood of the visitors

8107
05:27:57,669 --> 05:28:00,690
despite we're actually seeing

8108
05:28:01,340 --> 05:28:02,400
that uptick and my wife gives

8109
05:28:02,400 --> 05:28:02,807
me a regular report about how

8110
05:28:02,807 --> 05:28:05,807
many people are using Balboa

8111
05:28:06,578 --> 05:28:06,944
Park But this is what we've all

8112
05:28:06,944 --> 05:28:07,679
agreed to.

8113
05:28:07,679 --> 05:28:11,830
This is actually the third vote

8114
05:28:11,830 --> 05:28:11,782
on this matter for those that

8115
05:28:11,782 --> 05:28:12,284
are curious, we voted on this

8116
05:28:12,284 --> 05:28:13,118
in closed session.

8117
05:28:13,118 --> 05:28:15,454
We voted at this morning on

8118
05:28:15,454 --> 05:28:16,255
consent and this is the formal

8119
05:28:16,255 --> 05:28:19,290
action we have to do to kind of

8120
05:28:19,290 --> 05:28:19,925
close that end of

8121
05:28:19,925 --> 05:28:21,925
the settlement agreement.

8122
05:28:24,964 --> 05:28:25,663
I'm glad to hear that this

8123
05:28:25,663 --> 05:28:26,300
probably won't impact our f y

8124
05:28:26,300 --> 05:28:28,300
27 budget.

8125
05:28:30,101 --> 05:28:33,101
This particular item we'll have

8126
05:28:34,173 --> 05:28:34,940
to deal with this in f y 28

8127
05:28:34,940 --> 05:28:38,540
making our cost but again is

8128
05:28:38,743 --> 05:28:39,711
going to hit us in the wallet.

8129
05:28:39,711 --> 05:28:40,512
Yeah but it's a lot better than

8130
05:28:40,512 --> 05:28:43,248
the alternative that we were

8131
05:28:43,248 --> 05:28:44,820
facing.

8132
05:28:44,820 --> 05:28:44,750
And then to be absolutely clear

8133
05:28:44,750 --> 05:28:47,653
about something I heard this

8134
05:28:47,653 --> 05:28:48,530
was never the subject of

8135
05:28:48,530 --> 05:28:48,721
litigation.

8136
05:28:48,721 --> 05:28:49,420
This was a byproduct I got

8137
05:28:49,420 --> 05:28:51,820
thrown in to make

8138
05:28:52,824 --> 05:28:53,492
the settlement agreement happen

8139
05:28:53,492 --> 05:28:56,492
but there was never any

8140
05:28:57,363 --> 05:28:58,364
litigation about the authority

8141
05:28:58,364 --> 05:29:01,834
that was there or how it was

8142
05:29:01,834 --> 05:29:02,801
implemented.

8143
05:29:02,801 --> 05:29:07,100
So I don't want anybody to kind

8144
05:29:07,806 --> 05:29:08,474
of confuse that So with that of

8145
05:29:08,474 --> 05:29:08,774
course I'll be agreeing with

8146
05:29:08,774 --> 05:29:09,441
this.

8147
05:29:09,441 --> 05:29:11,943
I think it's the right thing

8148
05:29:11,943 --> 05:29:12,645
for us to do given where we are

8149
05:29:12,645 --> 05:29:16,245
today and then we'll deal with

8150
05:29:17,490 --> 05:29:18,117
next year next year.

8151
05:29:18,117 --> 05:29:21,687
So with that I'll go back to or

8152
05:29:21,687 --> 05:29:22,540
I'll go to Councilmember

8153
05:29:22,540 --> 05:29:22,755
Bumblebee.

8154
05:29:22,755 --> 05:29:23,421
>> Thank you Council PRESIDENT

8155
05:29:23,421 --> 05:29:23,922
Just thank you everybody for

8156
05:29:23,922 --> 05:29:25,922
being here today.

8157
05:29:27,259 --> 05:29:28,260
You know Balboa Park is it is

8158
05:29:28,260 --> 05:29:31,130
one of the gems of our city and

8159
05:29:31,130 --> 05:29:31,831
it attracts people from all

8160
05:29:31,831 --> 05:29:32,498
around the globe to come here

8161
05:29:32,498 --> 05:29:33,132
and thank you for the folks

8162
05:29:33,132 --> 05:29:35,532
from the partnership from

8163
05:29:35,700 --> 05:29:36,535
the museums who make it work.

8164
05:29:36,535 --> 05:29:37,536
You know, I was very hopeful

8165
05:29:37,536 --> 05:29:41,736
that this fund would be used to

8166
05:29:41,774 --> 05:29:42,141
do the maintenance we need on

8167
05:29:42,141 --> 05:29:42,808
our park.

8168
05:29:42,808 --> 05:29:43,209
It's a jam with long overdue

8169
05:29:43,209 --> 05:29:45,209
maintenance.

8170
05:29:46,245 --> 05:29:46,945
We need new sewer lines, new

8171
05:29:46,945 --> 05:29:50,545
pipes, we need new roofs, new

8172
05:29:51,830 --> 05:29:51,850
age bags And that was the goal

8173
05:29:51,850 --> 05:29:52,318
that I was hopeful for this

8174
05:29:52,318 --> 05:29:52,918
revenue source.

8175
05:29:52,918 --> 05:29:53,285
But I crafted the budget

8176
05:29:53,285 --> 05:29:55,285
hearings.

8177
05:29:55,988 --> 05:29:56,655
I said if we don't have a full

8178
05:29:56,655 --> 05:29:57,356
accounting that every single

8179
05:29:57,356 --> 05:30:00,592
dime people pay for parking is

8180
05:30:00,592 --> 05:30:01,360
going in to restoring Balboa

8181
05:30:01,360 --> 05:30:02,610
Park And I will call for

8182
05:30:02,610 --> 05:30:02,737
the full repeal And I have not

8183
05:30:02,737 --> 05:30:05,737
been satisfied that we have

8184
05:30:06,980 --> 05:30:06,432
used it to to the original

8185
05:30:06,432 --> 05:30:07,133
intent.

8186
05:30:07,133 --> 05:30:07,800
So I'm glad to be voting today

8187
05:30:07,800 --> 05:30:10,800
to repeal parking fees in

8188
05:30:12,338 --> 05:30:12,604
Balboa Park and I will vote

8189
05:30:12,604 --> 05:30:12,972
yes.

8190
05:30:12,972 --> 05:30:13,339
All right.

8191
05:30:13,339 --> 05:30:14,600
Thank you.

8192
05:30:14,600 --> 05:30:16,600
Councilmember Yvonne Walbert

8193
05:30:16,275 --> 05:30:17,142
not to anybody else.

8194
05:30:17,142 --> 05:30:17,844
So we have a motion by council

8195
05:30:17,844 --> 05:30:20,844
member Whitburn, the second by

8196
05:30:21,146 --> 05:30:21,848
council member Campo To move

8197
05:30:21,848 --> 05:30:23,115
the recommendation please call

8198
05:30:23,115 --> 05:30:26,715
the roll I'm sorry the voting

8199
05:30:28,221 --> 05:30:28,820
system Please cast your vote

8200
05:30:28,820 --> 05:30:30,820
that passes unanimously.

8201
05:30:32,658 --> 05:30:33,250
>> Thank you, Council PRESIDENT

8202
05:30:33,250 --> 05:30:35,250
All right.

8203
05:30:37,596 --> 05:30:39,596
>> Thank you.

8204
05:30:41,000 --> 05:30:41,667
Okay with that please introduce

8205
05:30:41,667 --> 05:30:42,435
item 640 item six four.

8206
05:30:42,435 --> 05:30:43,235
It is a rejection of solid

8207
05:30:43,235 --> 05:30:46,235
waste management fee in fiscal

8208
05:30:46,439 --> 05:30:47,306
year 2028 and 2029.

8209
05:30:47,306 --> 05:30:51,277
If you'd like to speak to this

8210
05:30:51,277 --> 05:30:52,450
item, now's the time to raise

8211
05:30:52,450 --> 05:30:52,744
your hand by pressing Star nine

8212
05:30:52,744 --> 05:30:53,446
or the raise your hand icon if

8213
05:30:53,446 --> 05:30:55,446
you're participating virtually

8214
05:30:56,381 --> 05:30:57,830
or if you're here in person to

8215
05:30:57,830 --> 05:30:57,751
please submit your speakers up

8216
05:30:57,751 --> 05:30:58,184
to the front of the room in

8217
05:30:58,184 --> 05:30:58,551
the clear box.

8218
05:30:58,551 --> 05:31:00,551
Thank you.

8219
05:31:03,589 --> 05:31:04,560
Council PRESIDENT All right.

8220
05:31:04,560 --> 05:31:06,560
Oh bless you.

8221
05:31:09,129 --> 05:31:09,729
I see staff has settled in.

8222
05:31:09,729 --> 05:31:10,430
Introduce yourselves for

8223
05:31:10,430 --> 05:31:11,197
the record and let us know how

8224
05:31:11,197 --> 05:31:13,766
much time you need for your

8225
05:31:13,766 --> 05:31:14,367
presentation.

8226
05:31:14,367 --> 05:31:15,340
Good afternoon, Council

8227
05:31:15,340 --> 05:31:15,602
PRESIDENT Council members My

8228
05:31:15,602 --> 05:31:18,200
name is Jeremy Bauer.

8229
05:31:19,172 --> 05:31:19,873
I'm assistant director

8230
05:31:19,873 --> 05:31:20,573
Environmental Services joined

8231
05:31:20,573 --> 05:31:20,974
today with Assistant Director

8232
05:31:20,974 --> 05:31:22,942
Jeremy Lugo.

8233
05:31:22,942 --> 05:31:23,375
MAY have 15 minutes for today's

8234
05:31:23,375 --> 05:31:25,375
presentation.

8235
05:31:27,880 --> 05:31:28,480
All right, when you're ready.

8236
05:31:28,480 --> 05:31:28,781
>> All right.

8237
05:31:28,781 --> 05:31:29,249
Okay.

8238
05:31:29,249 --> 05:31:29,949
Good afternoon.

8239
05:31:29,949 --> 05:31:32,349
For today's presentation we're

8240
05:31:32,719 --> 05:31:33,385
going to cover the proposed

8241
05:31:33,385 --> 05:31:34,870
action before council today.

8242
05:31:34,870 --> 05:31:37,870
Background on the solid waste

8243
05:31:37,690 --> 05:31:38,291
management fee and how we got

8244
05:31:38,291 --> 05:31:39,240
to where we are today.

8245
05:31:39,240 --> 05:31:42,240
How esd leveraged our existing

8246
05:31:42,529 --> 05:31:43,262
rate model to produce

8247
05:31:43,262 --> 05:31:43,730
the proportional fees that were

8248
05:31:43,730 --> 05:31:45,730
presented today.

8249
05:31:48,267 --> 05:31:48,868
The updated fees themselves

8250
05:31:48,868 --> 05:31:49,435
with the reduced rates.

8251
05:31:49,435 --> 05:31:51,835
We'll discuss some of

8252
05:31:53,173 --> 05:31:53,974
the fiscal impacts of today's

8253
05:31:53,974 --> 05:31:57,574
decision as well as an updated

8254
05:31:58,678 --> 05:31:59,312
outlook of the Solid Waste

8255
05:31:59,312 --> 05:31:59,846
Management Fund including

8256
05:31:59,846 --> 05:32:01,846
projected revenues,

8257
05:32:04,500 --> 05:32:04,484
expenditures, subsidies and

8258
05:32:04,484 --> 05:32:05,151
fund balance.

8259
05:32:05,151 --> 05:32:05,719
We'll review some additional

8260
05:32:05,719 --> 05:32:07,719
operational and policy

8261
05:32:08,187 --> 05:32:08,956
considerations.

8262
05:32:08,956 --> 05:32:11,956
>> And we'll cover the timeline

8263
05:32:13,493 --> 05:32:14,260
for implementation.

8264
05:32:14,260 --> 05:32:14,927
The action before Council today

8265
05:32:14,927 --> 05:32:18,527
is to adopt a revised Solid

8266
05:32:18,999 --> 05:32:19,499
waste management fee for fiscal

8267
05:32:19,499 --> 05:32:21,499
years 28 and 29.

8268
05:32:24,370 --> 05:32:24,771
Those revised ts would become

8269
05:32:24,771 --> 05:32:27,771
effective on JULY 1st, 2027 and

8270
05:32:28,575 --> 05:32:29,341
JULY 1st, 2028.

8271
05:32:29,341 --> 05:32:32,341
This action does not revise

8272
05:32:33,680 --> 05:32:34,514
the fee for the current fiscal

8273
05:32:34,514 --> 05:32:35,214
year nor does it impact the fee

8274
05:32:35,214 --> 05:32:38,752
for the next fiscal year which

8275
05:32:38,752 --> 05:32:39,152
is set to go into effect JULY

8276
05:32:39,152 --> 05:32:39,820
one, 2026.

8277
05:32:39,820 --> 05:32:40,420
It also does not impact

8278
05:32:40,420 --> 05:32:42,421
the city's approach to

8279
05:32:42,421 --> 05:32:44,821
collecting the fee through

8280
05:32:47,594 --> 05:32:48,561
the county tax roll.

8281
05:32:48,561 --> 05:32:52,733
So as a reminder back in 2022 a

8282
05:32:52,733 --> 05:32:53,466
majority of voters approved

8283
05:32:53,466 --> 05:32:54,167
amending the People's Ordinance

8284
05:32:54,167 --> 05:32:57,167
which removed a long standing

8285
05:32:57,771 --> 05:32:58,372
prohibition that had prevented

8286
05:32:58,372 --> 05:32:59,390
the city from collecting

8287
05:32:59,390 --> 05:32:59,740
revenue to cover the cost to

8288
05:32:59,740 --> 05:33:02,140
provide solid waste management

8289
05:33:03,476 --> 05:33:04,177
services to eligible customers.

8290
05:33:04,177 --> 05:33:07,777
After adoption and more than a

8291
05:33:09,150 --> 05:33:09,782
year of outreach and engagement

8292
05:33:09,782 --> 05:33:10,484
and a cost of service study

8293
05:33:10,484 --> 05:33:13,420
the city presented last JUNE a

8294
05:33:13,420 --> 05:33:14,121
proposal the Waste management

8295
05:33:14,121 --> 05:33:17,121
fee with rates effective JULY

8296
05:33:17,791 --> 05:33:19,791
1st, 20 2521 six 2027 and 2028.

8297
05:33:23,620 --> 05:33:23,764
Also last JUNE City Council

8298
05:33:23,764 --> 05:33:24,498
authorized the city to collect

8299
05:33:24,498 --> 05:33:27,835
the fee on the county tax roll.

8300
05:33:27,835 --> 05:33:28,569
Prior to the adoption of

8301
05:33:28,569 --> 05:33:29,169
the fee last year the operation

8302
05:33:29,169 --> 05:33:31,569
was largely funded with

8303
05:33:33,673 --> 05:33:34,708
the general fund.

8304
05:33:34,708 --> 05:33:35,409
In MAY of 26 last month as part

8305
05:33:35,409 --> 05:33:37,809
of a tentative settled

8306
05:33:38,612 --> 05:33:39,312
agreement, city Council agreed

8307
05:33:39,312 --> 05:33:42,416
to consider a reduced fee for

8308
05:33:42,416 --> 05:33:43,116
fiscal years 2829 and today's

8309
05:33:43,116 --> 05:33:46,116
action is to consider that

8310
05:33:48,210 --> 05:33:48,321
reduced fee in an open session

8311
05:33:48,321 --> 05:33:50,321
.

8312
05:33:52,926 --> 05:33:53,727
City used our rate model to

8313
05:33:53,727 --> 05:33:54,395
the same one that was used to

8314
05:33:54,395 --> 05:33:57,395
develop because the sort of

8315
05:33:58,765 --> 05:33:59,433
study initially to protect

8316
05:33:59,433 --> 05:34:00,000
the cost of providing solid

8317
05:34:00,000 --> 05:34:00,634
waste services to city

8318
05:34:00,634 --> 05:34:03,340
customers and to allocate

8319
05:34:03,837 --> 05:34:04,504
allocate those costs to

8320
05:34:04,504 --> 05:34:05,205
customers based on services

8321
05:34:05,205 --> 05:34:08,205
provided and the services each

8322
05:34:09,109 --> 05:34:09,776
property received receives.

8323
05:34:09,776 --> 05:34:10,277
The model also includes an

8324
05:34:10,277 --> 05:34:12,277
input for subsidy.

8325
05:34:14,982 --> 05:34:15,282
That was the case last year as

8326
05:34:15,282 --> 05:34:15,883
well.

8327
05:34:15,883 --> 05:34:16,550
And that input field in

8328
05:34:16,550 --> 05:34:19,550
the model allows us allowed

8329
05:34:19,753 --> 05:34:20,454
the city to observe the impact

8330
05:34:20,454 --> 05:34:20,787
subsidies would have on

8331
05:34:20,787 --> 05:34:21,488
the fee.

8332
05:34:21,488 --> 05:34:25,880
I'll note that last year's fee

8333
05:34:25,425 --> 05:34:26,930
that was adopted included

8334
05:34:26,930 --> 05:34:26,794
subsidy from two sources

8335
05:34:26,794 --> 05:34:30,394
the recycling fund as well as

8336
05:34:30,664 --> 05:34:31,398
the container fund.

8337
05:34:31,398 --> 05:34:32,320
For today's action the city was

8338
05:34:32,320 --> 05:34:35,320
able to leverage that same

8339
05:34:35,603 --> 05:34:36,302
input in the model to increase

8340
05:34:36,302 --> 05:34:36,971
the subsidy amounts such that

8341
05:34:36,971 --> 05:34:39,971
the rates for the 95 gallon

8342
05:34:40,975 --> 05:34:41,575
packages aligned with the rates

8343
05:34:41,575 --> 05:34:43,975
in the agreement under

8344
05:34:46,946 --> 05:34:49,346
consideration today for the 95

8345
05:34:50,451 --> 05:34:51,151
gallon bundle in 2028 and

8346
05:34:51,151 --> 05:34:53,551
the 95 gallon bundle for 2029

8347
05:34:55,189 --> 05:34:58,189
namely that is $38.75 per month

8348
05:34:59,360 --> 05:34:59,994
for fiscal year 28 and 3991 per

8349
05:34:59,994 --> 05:35:02,394
month for fiscal year 29.

8350
05:35:04,732 --> 05:35:05,433
Simultaneously the model

8351
05:35:05,433 --> 05:35:07,433
generated corresponding rates

8352
05:35:09,971 --> 05:35:10,738
for the 65 gallon bundle and

8353
05:35:10,738 --> 05:35:11,472
the 35 gallon bundle as well as

8354
05:35:11,472 --> 05:35:13,872
the additional container rates.

8355
05:35:15,576 --> 05:35:16,210
It was done this way to

8356
05:35:16,210 --> 05:35:16,711
preserve the proportional

8357
05:35:16,711 --> 05:35:18,711
relationship among

8358
05:35:20,481 --> 05:35:21,249
the different services.

8359
05:35:21,249 --> 05:35:21,949
That is in other words,

8360
05:35:21,949 --> 05:35:24,584
the city did not manually set

8361
05:35:24,584 --> 05:35:25,190
the rates for the 65 gallon or

8362
05:35:25,190 --> 05:35:25,653
the 35 gallon.

8363
05:35:25,653 --> 05:35:26,220
Rather we applied the same

8364
05:35:26,220 --> 05:35:28,620
model to preserve that

8365
05:35:29,957 --> 05:35:30,691
proportionality.

8366
05:35:30,691 --> 05:35:33,691
>> This slide shows the revised

8367
05:35:35,529 --> 05:35:36,130
Solid Waste management fee

8368
05:35:36,130 --> 05:35:36,898
schedule at a glance.

8369
05:35:36,898 --> 05:35:37,498
The key things I point out are

8370
05:35:37,498 --> 05:35:37,864
the new rates are those

8371
05:35:37,864 --> 05:35:39,864
involved.

8372
05:35:40,660 --> 05:35:40,501
Those are the right two columns

8373
05:35:40,501 --> 05:35:41,350
in the slide.

8374
05:35:41,350 --> 05:35:43,435
I'll also note under

8375
05:35:45,673 --> 05:35:46,374
the previously adopted fees

8376
05:35:46,374 --> 05:35:47,400
the fees were scheduled to go

8377
05:35:47,400 --> 05:35:49,440
to increase significantly in

8378
05:35:49,644 --> 05:35:50,378
fiscal year 28 and that was to

8379
05:35:50,378 --> 05:35:50,978
align when the weekly recycling

8380
05:35:50,978 --> 05:35:53,978
program and a bulky item

8381
05:35:55,350 --> 05:35:56,150
program were set to begin.

8382
05:35:56,150 --> 05:35:56,851
So that additional revenue was

8383
05:35:56,851 --> 05:36:00,188
set to pay for those programs

8384
05:36:00,188 --> 05:36:00,488
which I'll discuss in a moment

8385
05:36:00,488 --> 05:36:01,322
.

8386
05:36:01,322 --> 05:36:02,560
So I won't go through all of

8387
05:36:02,560 --> 05:36:02,757
these but you'll see consistent

8388
05:36:02,757 --> 05:36:03,570
with our presented in the last

8389
05:36:03,570 --> 05:36:05,570
slide.

8390
05:36:05,793 --> 05:36:06,127
You'll see the 95 gallon

8391
05:36:06,127 --> 05:36:08,127
bundle.

8392
05:36:10,331 --> 05:36:11,198
This is third row is at

8393
05:36:11,198 --> 05:36:14,198
the 3875 and in fiscal year 29

8394
05:36:14,702 --> 05:36:15,403
it goes to 3991.

8395
05:36:15,403 --> 05:36:15,970
And then you'll see the other

8396
05:36:15,970 --> 05:36:16,537
proportional rates for

8397
05:36:16,537 --> 05:36:18,937
the other packages and

8398
05:36:19,407 --> 05:36:20,740
the additional containers.

8399
05:36:20,740 --> 05:36:22,474
>> It's worth noting that

8400
05:36:24,612 --> 05:36:25,280
reducing a fee does not reduce

8401
05:36:25,280 --> 05:36:25,879
the cost to provide service.

8402
05:36:25,879 --> 05:36:28,279
Instead it reduces cost

8403
05:36:30,384 --> 05:36:30,718
recovery from ratepayer

8404
05:36:30,718 --> 05:36:31,385
revenue.

8405
05:36:31,385 --> 05:36:34,385
In other words, it means

8406
05:36:35,990 --> 05:36:36,591
there's a gap between the cost

8407
05:36:36,591 --> 05:36:37,292
to provide service and

8408
05:36:37,292 --> 05:36:37,692
the amount of revenue to cover

8409
05:36:37,692 --> 05:36:39,692
those cost.

8410
05:36:41,563 --> 05:36:42,620
We're proposing to address that

8411
05:36:42,620 --> 05:36:44,462
gap in two ways.

8412
05:36:46,367 --> 05:36:47,135
First is by increasing subsidy

8413
05:36:47,135 --> 05:36:47,868
one from the recycling fund and

8414
05:36:47,868 --> 05:36:50,868
secondly from the general fund.

8415
05:36:51,573 --> 05:36:52,206
I'll discuss the subsidy first.

8416
05:36:52,206 --> 05:36:52,707
For modeling purposes esd

8417
05:36:52,707 --> 05:36:54,707
assumed increasing

8418
05:36:57,445 --> 05:36:58,113
the recycling fund subsidy up

8419
05:36:58,113 --> 05:37:01,113
to $22 million per year for

8420
05:37:01,716 --> 05:37:02,490
both fiscal year 28 and fiscal

8421
05:37:02,490 --> 05:37:02,817
year 29.

8422
05:37:02,817 --> 05:37:03,485
As a reminder, the fee that was

8423
05:37:03,485 --> 05:37:05,885
adopted last JUNE already

8424
05:37:07,355 --> 05:37:07,889
included subsidy from

8425
05:37:07,889 --> 05:37:08,556
the recycling fund.

8426
05:37:08,556 --> 05:37:10,956
This proposal would increase

8427
05:37:11,660 --> 05:37:11,993
that subsidy to up to 22

8428
05:37:11,993 --> 05:37:12,594
million.

8429
05:37:12,594 --> 05:37:14,594
Additionally, the model

8430
05:37:17,980 --> 05:37:17,799
estimates that the department

8431
05:37:17,799 --> 05:37:18,466
will need approximately 10 to

8432
05:37:18,466 --> 05:37:20,866
$11 million of general fund

8433
05:37:22,671 --> 05:37:23,371
subsidy to cover the remaining

8434
05:37:23,371 --> 05:37:24,105
expenditures and that would be

8435
05:37:24,105 --> 05:37:24,772
in addition to existing general

8436
05:37:24,772 --> 05:37:26,772
fund expenditures associated

8437
05:37:28,510 --> 05:37:29,770
with the program.

8438
05:37:29,770 --> 05:37:29,778
One for the financial

8439
05:37:29,778 --> 05:37:30,512
assistance program and two to

8440
05:37:30,512 --> 05:37:33,982
cover some of the onetime costs

8441
05:37:33,982 --> 05:37:34,683
for customer transition and

8442
05:37:34,683 --> 05:37:37,830
expenditures prior to customer

8443
05:37:39,487 --> 05:37:40,288
validation.

8444
05:37:40,288 --> 05:37:43,888
Now on the topic of cutting

8445
05:37:44,960 --> 05:37:45,694
costs because the revised fee

8446
05:37:45,694 --> 05:37:46,270
now depends more on additional

8447
05:37:46,270 --> 05:37:46,728
subsidy.

8448
05:37:46,728 --> 05:37:49,728
Esd is assuming that certain

8449
05:37:51,990 --> 05:37:51,766
activities and costs would be

8450
05:37:51,766 --> 05:37:54,166
deferred, reduced or removed

8451
05:37:54,903 --> 05:37:55,570
during the remainder of

8452
05:37:55,570 --> 05:37:56,270
the four year rate period to

8453
05:37:56,270 --> 05:37:56,605
minimize the amount of subsidy

8454
05:37:56,605 --> 05:37:58,605
needed.

8455
05:38:01,476 --> 05:38:02,144
Those include deferring weekly

8456
05:38:02,144 --> 05:38:02,844
recycling, deferring a bulky

8457
05:38:02,844 --> 05:38:05,844
and pick up program, deferring

8458
05:38:06,448 --> 05:38:07,820
the electric vehicle pilot,

8459
05:38:07,820 --> 05:38:07,748
deferring certain capital

8460
05:38:07,748 --> 05:38:10,148
improvements and reducing or

8461
05:38:15,524 --> 05:38:15,857
delaying the buildup of reserve

8462
05:38:15,857 --> 05:38:16,424
.

8463
05:38:16,424 --> 05:38:16,958
This next slide shows

8464
05:38:16,958 --> 05:38:17,659
the updated outlook.

8465
05:38:17,659 --> 05:38:21,859
The print is kind of small so

8466
05:38:22,130 --> 05:38:22,431
I'll just highlight a few items

8467
05:38:22,431 --> 05:38:23,970
.

8468
05:38:23,970 --> 05:38:23,432
First in the upper left hand

8469
05:38:23,432 --> 05:38:24,132
corner.

8470
05:38:24,132 --> 05:38:27,369
You'll see that the fund began

8471
05:38:27,369 --> 05:38:28,690
at a negative and that was

8472
05:38:28,690 --> 05:38:28,737
largely because of the cost of

8473
05:38:28,737 --> 05:38:31,137
service study, the original

8474
05:38:32,374 --> 05:38:32,875
engagement and the development

8475
05:38:32,875 --> 05:38:33,708
of the portal.

8476
05:38:33,708 --> 05:38:34,443
>> All that work that went on

8477
05:38:34,443 --> 05:38:34,843
on the front end before that he

8478
05:38:34,843 --> 05:38:36,843
was adopted.

8479
05:38:38,213 --> 05:38:38,881
Second, the second line shows

8480
05:38:38,881 --> 05:38:39,481
the rate payer revenue that

8481
05:38:39,481 --> 05:38:42,481
the city is projected to

8482
05:38:44,219 --> 05:38:45,530
collect.

8483
05:38:45,530 --> 05:38:45,387
For this year it's around 118

8484
05:38:45,387 --> 05:38:47,387
million.

8485
05:38:48,791 --> 05:38:49,391
Next year the projection goes

8486
05:38:49,391 --> 05:38:50,240
up to about 125 million.

8487
05:38:50,240 --> 05:38:53,240
Then under the revised fee

8488
05:38:54,863 --> 05:38:55,564
schedule we're now projecting

8489
05:38:55,564 --> 05:38:57,964
around 109 million in fiscal

8490
05:38:58,600 --> 05:38:58,934
year 28 and around 111 million

8491
05:38:58,934 --> 05:38:59,668
for 29.

8492
05:38:59,668 --> 05:39:00,369
You'll also see in this table

8493
05:39:00,369 --> 05:39:03,369
the subsidy from the recycling

8494
05:39:04,973 --> 05:39:05,641
fund which again you'll see

8495
05:39:05,641 --> 05:39:06,307
there is an existing subsidy

8496
05:39:06,307 --> 05:39:07,900
for this year and next year.

8497
05:39:07,900 --> 05:39:10,379
And you'll see that the scope

8498
05:39:10,379 --> 05:39:11,800
of the subsidy is projected to

8499
05:39:11,800 --> 05:39:14,800
increase up to $22 million per

8500
05:39:15,317 --> 05:39:16,850
year for fiscal year 29 and 28.

8501
05:39:16,850 --> 05:39:19,685
Fourth you'll see the line for

8502
05:39:20,889 --> 05:39:21,523
the general fund subsidy where

8503
05:39:21,523 --> 05:39:22,223
we estimate approximately

8504
05:39:22,223 --> 05:39:24,223
10,000,011 million for fiscal

8505
05:39:24,927 --> 05:39:25,627
year 28 and 29.

8506
05:39:25,627 --> 05:39:26,295
Finally the second to last

8507
05:39:26,295 --> 05:39:29,295
lines underscore the point I

8508
05:39:31,100 --> 05:39:31,800
made in the last slide.

8509
05:39:31,800 --> 05:39:32,401
The expenditures line reflects

8510
05:39:32,401 --> 05:39:34,801
it reflects the reduced

8511
05:39:37,600 --> 05:39:37,673
expenditures removing the costs

8512
05:39:37,673 --> 05:39:38,407
for those deferred programs

8513
05:39:38,407 --> 05:39:39,410
the weekly recycling, the bulky

8514
05:39:39,410 --> 05:39:39,341
item the electric vehicle

8515
05:39:39,341 --> 05:39:41,341
pilot.

8516
05:39:42,678 --> 05:39:43,245
Certain capital expenditures

8517
05:39:43,245 --> 05:39:43,845
and reserve building.

8518
05:39:43,845 --> 05:39:44,546
And then even with those

8519
05:39:44,546 --> 05:39:47,546
adjustments you still see that

8520
05:39:48,417 --> 05:39:49,510
our net position on the fund

8521
05:39:49,510 --> 05:39:49,784
which had previously been

8522
05:39:49,784 --> 05:39:53,384
projected to land in a positive

8523
05:39:54,230 --> 05:39:54,589
territory is still forecast to

8524
05:39:54,589 --> 05:39:55,223
remain negative though

8525
05:39:55,223 --> 05:39:55,858
the negative position does

8526
05:39:55,858 --> 05:39:58,858
reduce from the present to

8527
05:40:02,598 --> 05:40:03,199
fiscal year 29.

8528
05:40:03,199 --> 05:40:03,799
Lastly, we thought it's

8529
05:40:03,799 --> 05:40:04,500
important to raise some

8530
05:40:04,500 --> 05:40:05,660
additional considerations for

8531
05:40:05,660 --> 05:40:07,660
today's conversation.

8532
05:40:08,503 --> 05:40:09,171
First diversion of recyclables

8533
05:40:09,171 --> 05:40:09,872
remains and organics remain

8534
05:40:09,872 --> 05:40:13,472
important to keep those out of

8535
05:40:14,276 --> 05:40:14,977
the landfill.

8536
05:40:14,977 --> 05:40:15,644
When the fee was adopted last

8537
05:40:15,644 --> 05:40:18,644
year last JUNE we emphasized

8538
05:40:20,383 --> 05:40:21,500
the operational necessity of

8539
05:40:21,500 --> 05:40:21,684
weekly recycling emphasizing

8540
05:40:21,684 --> 05:40:22,183
the importance to increase

8541
05:40:22,183 --> 05:40:24,183
diversion to meet

8542
05:40:26,550 --> 05:40:26,689
sustainability goals and extend

8543
05:40:26,689 --> 05:40:27,456
the life of the landfill.

8544
05:40:27,456 --> 05:40:30,456
Now that we have biweekly

8545
05:40:32,761 --> 05:40:33,495
recycling is going to maintain

8546
05:40:33,495 --> 05:40:34,196
for now it means that customers

8547
05:40:34,196 --> 05:40:36,596
MAY need additional recycling

8548
05:40:38,166 --> 05:40:39,350
capacity.

8549
05:40:39,350 --> 05:40:39,769
So we are on task environmental

8550
05:40:39,769 --> 05:40:40,503
services to make sure we engage

8551
05:40:40,503 --> 05:40:41,690
with customers so they know how

8552
05:40:41,690 --> 05:40:43,469
to order an additional

8553
05:40:44,841 --> 05:40:45,207
recycling container should they

8554
05:40:45,207 --> 05:40:45,908
need one.

8555
05:40:45,908 --> 05:40:46,609
So we're able to meet their

8556
05:40:46,609 --> 05:40:49,445
need especially those who MAY

8557
05:40:49,445 --> 05:40:50,145
have elected to choose only one

8558
05:40:50,145 --> 05:40:50,513
container anticipating weekly

8559
05:40:50,513 --> 05:40:51,113
recycling.

8560
05:40:51,113 --> 05:40:54,113
I will note that because

8561
05:40:55,818 --> 05:40:56,519
the fees are subsidized heavily

8562
05:40:56,519 --> 05:40:57,186
by the recycling fund, the fee

8563
05:40:57,186 --> 05:40:59,586
for an additional recycling

8564
05:41:01,657 --> 05:41:01,924
container is now lower than it

8565
05:41:01,924 --> 05:41:02,658
was.

8566
05:41:02,658 --> 05:41:05,658
It's around $6 a month for

8567
05:41:06,162 --> 05:41:06,763
fiscal year 28 and around 650

8568
05:41:06,763 --> 05:41:07,463
for fiscal year 29 just

8569
05:41:07,463 --> 05:41:07,797
significantly less than it was

8570
05:41:07,797 --> 05:41:09,797
before.

8571
05:41:11,668 --> 05:41:12,335
That means that customers who

8572
05:41:12,335 --> 05:41:13,200
need that second recycling

8573
05:41:13,200 --> 05:41:13,703
container I can get one at a

8574
05:41:13,703 --> 05:41:17,303
lower rate than it was before.

8575
05:41:18,410 --> 05:41:18,608
Second, the importance of

8576
05:41:18,608 --> 05:41:19,175
maximizing the life of

8577
05:41:19,175 --> 05:41:19,842
the landfill remains.

8578
05:41:19,842 --> 05:41:22,242
Our latest projection still

8579
05:41:23,680 --> 05:41:24,380
shows capacity at Miramar

8580
05:41:24,380 --> 05:41:25,140
around 2031 and so we're still

8581
05:41:25,140 --> 05:41:27,414
planning for that reality.

8582
05:41:30,253 --> 05:41:30,954
An important part of that

8583
05:41:30,954 --> 05:41:31,688
planning is a transfer station

8584
05:41:31,688 --> 05:41:34,688
which is essentially a facility

8585
05:41:36,525 --> 05:41:37,193
or a covered pavilion where

8586
05:41:37,193 --> 05:41:37,826
municipal waste can be taken

8587
05:41:37,826 --> 05:41:38,494
and then consolidated into

8588
05:41:38,494 --> 05:41:40,894
larger transfer vehicles and

8589
05:41:42,198 --> 05:41:42,565
taken to another nearby

8590
05:41:42,565 --> 05:41:43,199
landfill.

8591
05:41:43,199 --> 05:41:43,900
And you see on the slide a

8592
05:41:43,900 --> 05:41:46,900
couple of the local landfills

8593
05:41:48,370 --> 05:41:48,738
in the county.

8594
05:41:48,738 --> 05:41:49,405
In the meantime, Miramar

8595
05:41:49,405 --> 05:41:50,730
remains the primary disposal

8596
05:41:50,730 --> 05:41:52,473
location for municipal waste

8597
05:41:53,676 --> 05:41:54,210
with some waste currently going

8598
05:41:54,210 --> 05:41:54,878
to otir Sycamore.

8599
05:41:54,878 --> 05:41:55,544
And in the meantime as well,

8600
05:41:55,544 --> 05:41:57,944
the department will evaluate

8601
05:41:59,849 --> 05:42:00,716
whether there are opportunities

8602
05:42:00,716 --> 05:42:01,284
to take more of the waste to

8603
05:42:01,284 --> 05:42:01,984
those other landfills.

8604
05:42:01,984 --> 05:42:04,384
Weighing the tradeoffs related

8605
05:42:05,789 --> 05:42:06,422
to travel time staffing,

8606
05:42:06,422 --> 05:42:07,900
efficiency and operational

8607
05:42:07,900 --> 05:42:07,657
costs will also continue to

8608
05:42:07,657 --> 05:42:10,570
update our outlooks on

8609
05:42:12,828 --> 05:42:13,530
the landfill projections for

8610
05:42:13,530 --> 05:42:14,229
closure pending any changes to

8611
05:42:14,229 --> 05:42:17,229
tonnage due to improvements in

8612
05:42:18,100 --> 05:42:18,735
diversion like we've seen with

8613
05:42:18,735 --> 05:42:19,435
the organics program as well as

8614
05:42:19,435 --> 05:42:22,435
any changes to the anticipated

8615
05:42:23,540 --> 05:42:24,407
closure date.

8616
05:42:24,407 --> 05:42:26,807
>> So the anticipated timeline

8617
05:42:28,878 --> 05:42:29,478
JULY 1st, 2025 excuse me JULY

8618
05:42:29,478 --> 05:42:31,478
1st, 2026 The previously

8619
05:42:34,284 --> 05:42:34,618
adopted fee for 2027 goes into

8620
05:42:34,618 --> 05:42:36,618
effect.

8621
05:42:38,355 --> 05:42:38,788
So that's $44.57 for the 95

8622
05:42:38,788 --> 05:42:39,489
gallon bundle.

8623
05:42:39,489 --> 05:42:42,489
And then JULY 1st, 2027 would

8624
05:42:42,925 --> 05:42:43,626
be the date of the first

8625
05:42:43,626 --> 05:42:44,294
revised fee going into effect

8626
05:42:44,294 --> 05:42:47,294
for the fiscal year 2080 and

8627
05:42:48,664 --> 05:42:49,232
JULY 1st, 2028 would be

8628
05:42:49,232 --> 05:42:51,632
the date for the 3991

8629
05:42:52,837 --> 05:42:53,103
the revised fee for fiscal year

8630
05:42:53,103 --> 05:42:53,937
29.

8631
05:42:53,937 --> 05:42:54,571
>> And with that I'll post a

8632
05:42:54,571 --> 05:42:56,971
comment in the questions.

8633
05:42:58,507 --> 05:42:59,309
All right.

8634
05:42:59,309 --> 05:43:00,430
Thank you for the presentation

8635
05:43:00,430 --> 05:43:00,377
and the work to bring this item

8636
05:43:00,377 --> 05:43:02,377
forward.

8637
05:43:04,947 --> 05:43:05,615
We'll go down to the office of

8638
05:43:05,615 --> 05:43:06,283
the Ida Jordan Baker Council

8639
05:43:06,283 --> 05:43:06,983
PRESIDENT Jordan Law fiscal

8640
05:43:06,983 --> 05:43:09,983
policy analyst with the Office

8641
05:43:10,487 --> 05:43:11,254
of the aba.

8642
05:43:11,254 --> 05:43:11,955
I've just briefly we did review

8643
05:43:11,955 --> 05:43:12,589
the cost of service model that

8644
05:43:12,589 --> 05:43:14,989
Jeremy mentioned to bring

8645
05:43:16,526 --> 05:43:17,226
the proportional

8646
05:43:17,226 --> 05:43:17,661
proportionality analysis for

8647
05:43:17,661 --> 05:43:18,328
all the fees.

8648
05:43:18,328 --> 05:43:18,962
We're generally in agreement

8649
05:43:18,962 --> 05:43:22,562
with how they did that and

8650
05:43:22,599 --> 05:43:23,200
think that that is a sound way

8651
05:43:23,200 --> 05:43:23,967
to set these fees.

8652
05:43:23,967 --> 05:43:24,635
And for now mostly where my

8653
05:43:24,635 --> 05:43:25,302
comments are going to be are

8654
05:43:25,302 --> 05:43:29,239
going to be a repeat of what

8655
05:43:29,239 --> 05:43:29,839
you heard on Friday as you now

8656
05:43:29,839 --> 05:43:30,240
see in the re model for

8657
05:43:30,240 --> 05:43:30,941
the outlook.

8658
05:43:30,941 --> 05:43:31,608
You can expect a $10.8 million

8659
05:43:31,608 --> 05:43:34,800
general fund subsidy that's

8660
05:43:35,512 --> 05:43:36,113
required in 2028 a $10 Million

8661
05:43:36,113 --> 05:43:36,780
subsidy required in 2029

8662
05:43:36,780 --> 05:43:40,380
because the fees are now no

8663
05:43:41,170 --> 05:43:41,751
longer set to be in a way that

8664
05:43:41,751 --> 05:43:42,352
is 100% fully cost recoverable.

8665
05:43:42,352 --> 05:43:45,352
This also means now that

8666
05:43:47,190 --> 05:43:47,825
the general fund in general is

8667
05:43:47,825 --> 05:43:48,559
also exposed If costs for

8668
05:43:48,559 --> 05:43:49,225
collections do increase between

8669
05:43:49,225 --> 05:43:53,130
now and the end of the three

8670
05:43:53,130 --> 05:43:53,830
cycle period, more than it was

8671
05:43:53,830 --> 05:43:54,531
exposed in previous years for

8672
05:43:54,531 --> 05:43:57,531
things such as labor, vehicle

8673
05:43:58,969 --> 05:43:59,669
costs, disposal fees or other

8674
05:43:59,669 --> 05:44:00,270
things such as potentially if

8675
05:44:00,270 --> 05:44:02,670
the recycling fund can't

8676
05:44:03,740 --> 05:44:04,441
support a $22 million subsidy

8677
05:44:04,441 --> 05:44:04,875
the general fund will have to

8678
05:44:04,875 --> 05:44:05,709
pick that up.

8679
05:44:05,709 --> 05:44:09,513
To that end, our office now has

8680
05:44:09,513 --> 05:44:10,113
the recommendation that we are

8681
05:44:10,113 --> 05:44:10,747
pushing which is that we

8682
05:44:10,747 --> 05:44:11,415
believe that environmental

8683
05:44:11,415 --> 05:44:13,815
services should also develop

8684
05:44:16,219 --> 05:44:16,920
and produce a five year

8685
05:44:16,920 --> 05:44:17,655
financial outlook that covers

8686
05:44:17,655 --> 05:44:18,355
their operations with the Solid

8687
05:44:18,355 --> 05:44:21,355
Waste Management Fund as well

8688
05:44:21,558 --> 05:44:22,225
as potentially other enterprise

8689
05:44:22,225 --> 05:44:22,960
funds that can be presented

8690
05:44:22,960 --> 05:44:26,560
along with the general fund and

8691
05:44:27,598 --> 05:44:28,265
beauty outlooks every year so

8692
05:44:28,265 --> 05:44:28,865
that council and the public

8693
05:44:28,865 --> 05:44:29,533
have an idea of whether

8694
05:44:29,533 --> 05:44:30,100
the general fund subsidy is

8695
05:44:30,100 --> 05:44:32,500
going to be required.

8696
05:44:33,203 --> 05:44:33,870
What are potential fee options

8697
05:44:33,870 --> 05:44:34,438
for councils to consider in

8698
05:44:34,438 --> 05:44:35,139
the future and what is

8699
05:44:35,139 --> 05:44:38,139
the future of these enterprise

8700
05:44:39,876 --> 05:44:40,477
funds as a whole?

8701
05:44:40,477 --> 05:44:41,178
I conclude my comments.

8702
05:44:41,178 --> 05:44:41,545
Also available for questions.

8703
05:44:41,545 --> 05:44:41,912
Thank you.

8704
05:44:41,912 --> 05:44:42,413
All right.

8705
05:44:42,413 --> 05:44:44,413
Thank you Jordan.

8706
05:44:44,882 --> 05:44:45,348
Clerk Please proceed with

8707
05:44:45,348 --> 05:44:45,983
public comment.

8708
05:44:45,983 --> 05:44:46,616
>> The council PRESIDENT

8709
05:44:46,616 --> 05:44:49,616
Allegedly order If you can

8710
05:44:51,855 --> 05:44:53,724
please come forward after that

8711
05:44:53,724 --> 05:44:56,724
will be joining Otto You'll

8712
05:45:01,980 --> 05:45:01,865
have a minute and a half.

8713
05:45:01,865 --> 05:45:02,600
>> See, this is nonsense, Joe,

8714
05:45:02,600 --> 05:45:05,468
because you're acting like what

8715
05:45:05,468 --> 05:45:05,736
you did was an illegal prior to

8716
05:45:05,736 --> 05:45:06,470
18.

8717
05:45:06,470 --> 05:45:07,171
You guys need to be getting

8718
05:45:07,171 --> 05:45:10,171
the majority approval, not a

8719
05:45:11,342 --> 05:45:11,775
majority of people saying they

8720
05:45:11,775 --> 05:45:12,476
don't want it.

8721
05:45:12,476 --> 05:45:16,760
And so with us paying this

8722
05:45:17,114 --> 05:45:17,914
money it's forcing you to

8723
05:45:17,914 --> 05:45:18,649
change what you guys are doing

8724
05:45:18,649 --> 05:45:19,316
and you probably settle because

8725
05:45:19,316 --> 05:45:22,916
you know that it would have

8726
05:45:23,721 --> 05:45:24,221
caused a significant amount

8727
05:45:24,221 --> 05:45:25,210
more to push on.

8728
05:45:25,210 --> 05:45:25,690
And so you guys want a virtue

8729
05:45:25,690 --> 05:45:28,690
signal here like we're doing

8730
05:45:29,860 --> 05:45:30,528
you a favor now we're going

8731
05:45:30,528 --> 05:45:33,528
back and engaging in because

8732
05:45:34,310 --> 05:45:34,565
you couldn't do the right thing

8733
05:45:34,565 --> 05:45:35,233
in the first place.

8734
05:45:35,233 --> 05:45:35,900
All of that money even for

8735
05:45:35,900 --> 05:45:36,634
the trash fees like you were

8736
05:45:36,634 --> 05:45:39,634
getting an exorbitant amount of

8737
05:45:39,737 --> 05:45:40,438
money beyond what you were

8738
05:45:40,438 --> 05:45:41,172
needing And it's like putting

8739
05:45:41,172 --> 05:45:44,172
this on people's property taxes

8740
05:45:45,275 --> 05:45:46,430
so that they lose their home.

8741
05:45:46,430 --> 05:45:46,644
I mean just the negligence that

8742
05:45:46,644 --> 05:45:47,411
you guys engage in is

8743
05:45:47,411 --> 05:45:51,110
ridiculous And the fact that we

8744
05:45:51,482 --> 05:45:52,183
have to come back and revisit

8745
05:45:52,183 --> 05:45:52,916
these things and you guys want

8746
05:45:52,916 --> 05:45:53,550
to sit up here and act like you

8747
05:45:53,550 --> 05:45:55,950
didn't do anything wrong.

8748
05:45:57,622 --> 05:45:58,355
I mean it's like when you guys

8749
05:45:58,355 --> 05:45:59,900
had no quorum five times in a

8750
05:45:59,900 --> 05:46:02,690
row and you blatantly looked at

8751
05:46:02,826 --> 05:46:03,627
me like you, we can continue

8752
05:46:03,627 --> 05:46:03,895
business And now what do you

8753
05:46:03,895 --> 05:46:04,529
do?

8754
05:46:04,529 --> 05:46:05,196
Because the news came and

8755
05:46:05,196 --> 05:46:08,796
covered it All of a sudden

8756
05:46:09,633 --> 05:46:10,401
you're saying that you need a

8757
05:46:10,401 --> 05:46:11,101
quorum But when I called it out

8758
05:46:11,101 --> 05:46:14,101
time and again you blatantly

8759
05:46:15,640 --> 05:46:16,340
had me escorted out by

8760
05:46:16,340 --> 05:46:19,940
the police with the threat of

8761
05:46:21,245 --> 05:46:22,130
arrest and you want us to trust

8762
05:46:22,130 --> 05:46:22,480
that you guys are going to do

8763
05:46:22,480 --> 05:46:24,480
the right thing?

8764
05:46:27,318 --> 05:46:28,860
Yeah, I bet that's why you

8765
05:46:28,860 --> 05:46:28,819
stood up there on that dias and

8766
05:46:28,819 --> 05:46:31,219
it's probably bulletproof under

8767
05:46:37,328 --> 05:46:39,328
their dressing room.

8768
05:46:43,660 --> 05:46:43,350
This is kind of a tough one for

8769
05:46:43,350 --> 05:46:44,335
me.

8770
05:46:44,335 --> 05:46:48,573
I do want to start out with a

8771
05:46:48,573 --> 05:46:49,440
thank you.

8772
05:46:49,440 --> 05:46:53,640
I want to thank Kirby Brady and

8773
05:46:54,645 --> 05:46:55,313
everybody who worked with her

8774
05:46:55,313 --> 05:46:58,313
from the very beginning and

8775
05:47:00,618 --> 05:47:01,285
she's absolutely brilliant and

8776
05:47:01,285 --> 05:47:02,870
I'm looking forward to her

8777
05:47:02,870 --> 05:47:04,255
working with us on other

8778
05:47:04,255 --> 05:47:06,655
projects in the future.

8779
05:47:11,295 --> 05:47:12,630
So give and take I could speak

8780
05:47:12,630 --> 05:47:15,630
a lot about my personal

8781
05:47:17,535 --> 05:47:18,403
experience with this and where

8782
05:47:18,403 --> 05:47:19,137
I was from it I know it from

8783
05:47:19,137 --> 05:47:19,536
the beginning but we don't need

8784
05:47:19,536 --> 05:47:21,536
to go there.

8785
05:47:22,306 --> 05:47:26,506
Most of you know that how we

8786
05:47:29,114 --> 05:47:29,881
handle these things I can't

8787
05:47:29,881 --> 05:47:34,810
speak to really so much I don't

8788
05:47:34,785 --> 05:47:35,586
know but I do know give and

8789
05:47:35,586 --> 05:47:39,786
take And I did listen to all

8790
05:47:40,659 --> 05:47:41,359
the public who spoke on this

8791
05:47:41,359 --> 05:47:44,959
who spoke against it, the fees

8792
05:47:46,364 --> 05:47:47,650
and I honor them when I speak

8793
05:47:47,650 --> 05:47:50,665
now but I also honor everybody

8794
05:47:52,237 --> 05:47:52,537
that's working to make our city

8795
05:47:52,537 --> 05:47:53,238
work.

8796
05:47:53,238 --> 05:47:53,939
And we've said some beautiful

8797
05:47:53,939 --> 05:47:56,939
things today about what we're

8798
05:47:58,343 --> 05:47:59,277
going to do to change our ways.

8799
05:47:59,277 --> 05:48:02,877
So here's a shining example for

8800
05:48:04,315 --> 05:48:04,649
us Let's not judge you too

8801
05:48:04,649 --> 05:48:05,349
harshly.

8802
05:48:05,349 --> 05:48:08,949
Let's just know that we all

8803
05:48:10,922 --> 05:48:11,389
stumble and we're doing

8804
05:48:11,389 --> 05:48:12,230
the best we can.

8805
05:48:12,230 --> 05:48:14,423
>> But well, thank you.

8806
05:48:15,326 --> 05:48:15,861
I'm sorry The five minute time

8807
05:48:15,861 --> 05:48:16,595
we're going to those

8808
05:48:16,595 --> 05:48:17,295
participating remotely starting

8809
05:48:17,295 --> 05:48:20,895
with Leonard If you can please

8810
05:48:27,172 --> 05:48:27,773
unmute thanking them.

8811
05:48:27,773 --> 05:48:28,706
>> Yes, please proceed.

8812
05:48:28,706 --> 05:48:32,306
I have suggested to revenue for

8813
05:48:32,377 --> 05:48:33,780
the budget.

8814
05:48:33,780 --> 05:48:33,812
The company that's shorting

8815
05:48:33,812 --> 05:48:36,812
the recycling is profiting from

8816
05:48:39,217 --> 05:48:39,551
the City of San Diego residents

8817
05:48:39,551 --> 05:48:40,218
.

8818
05:48:40,218 --> 05:48:40,919
All of the items that are

8819
05:48:40,919 --> 05:48:41,552
shorted, bundled and sold are

8820
05:48:41,552 --> 05:48:44,552
for profit so you should

8821
05:48:44,789 --> 05:48:45,490
renegotiate your windfall from

8822
05:48:45,490 --> 05:48:47,890
recycling companies to recoup

8823
05:48:50,762 --> 05:48:51,163
some money to help with

8824
05:48:51,163 --> 05:48:51,897
the deficit.

8825
05:48:51,897 --> 05:48:54,897
Also renegotiate all leases and

8826
05:48:56,635 --> 05:48:59,350
charge all occupied office

8827
05:49:01,907 --> 05:49:05,507
Space to me should be assessed

8828
05:49:07,846 --> 05:49:08,814
attach to help the deficit also

8829
05:49:08,814 --> 05:49:12,414
should be possible Now you have

8830
05:49:13,451 --> 05:49:14,530
to pay $7 million for that cost

8831
05:49:14,530 --> 05:49:16,453
of service study plus

8832
05:49:20,259 --> 05:49:21,126
the attorney fees that when you

8833
05:49:21,126 --> 05:49:24,726
went to court hdr each which

8834
05:49:25,464 --> 05:49:29,640
should pay back the city when

8835
05:49:33,500 --> 05:49:36,500
this is repealed Also elected

8836
05:49:37,909 --> 05:49:38,811
Meg Marino for her service and

8837
05:49:38,811 --> 05:49:41,211
welcome Sarah Ramirez for

8838
05:49:43,715 --> 05:49:46,715
the next Council for District

8839
05:49:50,955 --> 05:49:54,555
eight and thank you very much

8840
05:49:57,630 --> 05:49:58,429
Tony please I'm you Tony

8841
05:49:58,429 --> 05:49:59,298
Academy Before you I will have

8842
05:49:59,298 --> 05:50:03,498
to move on to the next caller

8843
05:50:07,306 --> 05:50:08,174
if you can limit for yourself I

8844
05:50:08,174 --> 05:50:08,506
want you to move on to the next

8845
05:50:08,506 --> 05:50:09,341
caller.

8846
05:50:09,341 --> 05:50:12,645
John, stop if you can please

8847
05:50:12,645 --> 05:50:14,645
unmute.

8848
05:50:18,651 --> 05:50:19,150
Well, I think I think Senator

8849
05:50:19,150 --> 05:50:20,219
said it very well.

8850
05:50:20,219 --> 05:50:24,256
It's a good day and we all

8851
05:50:24,256 --> 05:50:24,890
stumble and it's part of this

8852
05:50:24,890 --> 05:50:27,290
rebirth or recognition of

8853
05:50:30,129 --> 05:50:33,729
the new way and the healing.

8854
05:50:36,435 --> 05:50:37,350
I suggest that council docket

8855
05:50:37,350 --> 05:50:39,435
eight Maria Severson and

8856
05:50:42,208 --> 05:50:42,909
Michael Gary Day a proclamation

8857
05:50:42,909 --> 05:50:45,909
thanking them on behalf of

8858
05:50:48,381 --> 05:50:49,480
the City of San Diego for

8859
05:50:49,480 --> 05:50:49,748
looking out for the citizens

8860
05:50:49,748 --> 05:50:53,348
and finding the truth in this

8861
05:50:54,187 --> 05:50:55,540
matter and working working out

8862
05:50:55,540 --> 05:50:58,654
a way to have a negotiated

8863
05:51:00,826 --> 05:51:01,494
settlement of two matters and

8864
05:51:01,494 --> 05:51:04,494
giving them sharing some of

8865
05:51:06,599 --> 05:51:09,599
the praise that is already

8866
05:51:12,700 --> 05:51:12,805
being taken by MR. Whitman with

8867
05:51:12,805 --> 05:51:15,805
the moving experts MS. Severson

8868
05:51:18,511 --> 05:51:18,807
and MR. Gary they did a great

8869
05:51:18,807 --> 05:51:20,807
job.

8870
05:51:23,349 --> 05:51:24,216
So the second time around for

8871
05:51:24,216 --> 05:51:28,870
MR. Gary and I hope that you

8872
05:51:28,870 --> 05:51:31,687
can do something in that area

8873
05:51:34,594 --> 05:51:38,794
so I want to thank you again

8874
05:51:40,633 --> 05:51:41,301
for taking this item.

8875
05:51:41,301 --> 05:51:41,668
>> Please approve it.

8876
05:51:41,668 --> 05:51:42,340
Thank you.

8877
05:51:42,340 --> 05:51:42,702
Thank you.

8878
05:51:42,702 --> 05:51:45,702
Francine Maxwell if you can

8879
05:51:45,805 --> 05:51:46,506
please and you Thank you

8880
05:51:46,506 --> 05:51:48,506
Francine Maxwell Southeastern

8881
05:51:52,780 --> 05:51:52,811
San Diego resident Thank you so

8882
05:51:52,811 --> 05:51:53,546
much for the presentation and I

8883
05:51:53,546 --> 05:51:56,546
hope that the council remembers

8884
05:51:57,349 --> 05:51:58,840
that districts four eight and

8885
05:51:58,840 --> 05:51:58,651
nine we pay for parking to go

8886
05:51:58,651 --> 05:52:01,510
to support village and

8887
05:52:02,555 --> 05:52:03,156
especially married couples and

8888
05:52:03,156 --> 05:52:03,923
people that are dating.

8889
05:52:03,923 --> 05:52:04,791
So San Diego residents do know

8890
05:52:04,791 --> 05:52:08,391
how to pay for parking for

8891
05:52:09,228 --> 05:52:09,862
places that they want to go

8892
05:52:09,862 --> 05:52:10,196
sometimes even though with

8893
05:52:10,196 --> 05:52:10,930
support.

8894
05:52:10,930 --> 05:52:14,601
Again, I want to thank the city

8895
05:52:14,601 --> 05:52:15,201
council for making sure that

8896
05:52:15,201 --> 05:52:15,902
the project had multiple

8897
05:52:15,902 --> 05:52:18,302
appointments in multiple areas

8898
05:52:20,672 --> 05:52:21,374
that were just so accessible to

8899
05:52:21,374 --> 05:52:21,975
the entire city whether it was

8900
05:52:21,975 --> 05:52:24,975
in the morning they had

8901
05:52:26,946 --> 05:52:27,347
afternoon appointments and they

8902
05:52:27,347 --> 05:52:28,800
had evening.

8903
05:52:28,800 --> 05:52:28,747
That is what community building

8904
05:52:28,747 --> 05:52:32,347
looks like When you have you

8905
05:52:32,919 --> 05:52:33,419
set something up and it's

8906
05:52:33,419 --> 05:52:34,200
accessible to all

8907
05:52:34,200 --> 05:52:36,420
the constituents in all

8908
05:52:38,991 --> 05:52:39,392
the districts at multiple times

8909
05:52:39,392 --> 05:52:40,600
of day.

8910
05:52:40,600 --> 05:52:40,726
So moving forward let's go

8911
05:52:40,726 --> 05:52:43,726
ahead and continue with that

8912
05:52:44,698 --> 05:52:45,230
model And again you guys can

8913
05:52:45,230 --> 05:52:45,899
hold more meetings.

8914
05:52:45,899 --> 05:52:46,299
You don't have to call them

8915
05:52:46,299 --> 05:52:48,299
town halls.

8916
05:52:51,370 --> 05:52:51,738
You can call them huddle

8917
05:52:51,738 --> 05:52:52,305
meetings And let's begin to

8918
05:52:52,305 --> 05:52:54,705
talk about some things

8919
05:52:57,410 --> 05:52:58,440
especially all the million

8920
05:52:58,440 --> 05:52:58,711
dollar settlements that is

8921
05:52:58,711 --> 05:52:59,379
going away through our risk

8922
05:52:59,379 --> 05:53:02,379
management We can start to

8923
05:53:03,916 --> 05:53:04,684
build trust If you if you say

8924
05:53:04,684 --> 05:53:05,251
what you can say to us and we

8925
05:53:05,251 --> 05:53:05,652
don't have to pay for

8926
05:53:05,652 --> 05:53:07,652
everything.

8927
05:53:09,989 --> 05:53:10,724
Again, thank you so much.

8928
05:53:10,724 --> 05:53:11,240
>> Looking forward for this to

8929
05:53:11,240 --> 05:53:11,391
pass.

8930
05:53:11,391 --> 05:53:12,259
Thank you.

8931
05:53:12,259 --> 05:53:15,859
Next is Hector if you can

8932
05:53:15,962 --> 05:53:16,729
believe them.

8933
05:53:16,729 --> 05:53:17,297
You have a five minute timer.

8934
05:53:17,297 --> 05:53:17,663
There's two people in

8935
05:53:17,663 --> 05:53:19,663
the queue.

8936
05:53:22,202 --> 05:53:22,636
Notify everything And thank you

8937
05:53:22,636 --> 05:53:24,636
for your time.

8938
05:53:27,400 --> 05:53:30,640
Hey, I was doing this trash

8939
05:53:32,450 --> 05:53:32,713
thing and when you're doing it,

8940
05:53:32,713 --> 05:53:33,413
there's 2500 people The city

8941
05:53:33,413 --> 05:53:37,130
was picking up trash that they

8942
05:53:38,785 --> 05:53:39,519
weren't charging for and they

8943
05:53:39,519 --> 05:53:40,253
were the city was not obligated

8944
05:53:40,253 --> 05:53:44,453
to pick up their trash but they

8945
05:53:44,524 --> 05:53:45,225
picked it up for decades

8946
05:53:45,225 --> 05:53:45,892
without the city even knowing

8947
05:53:45,892 --> 05:53:48,892
about it until they started

8948
05:53:50,300 --> 05:53:50,897
charging things.

8949
05:53:50,897 --> 05:53:51,698
So how about if we claw back

8950
05:53:51,698 --> 05:53:55,898
about a year of that trash fees

8951
05:53:57,700 --> 05:53:57,738
on those guys that were picking

8952
05:53:57,738 --> 05:54:01,338
up their trash for like two

8953
05:54:02,375 --> 05:54:02,942
decades and we weren't supposed

8954
05:54:02,942 --> 05:54:03,811
to do it.

8955
05:54:03,811 --> 05:54:04,510
So there's a lot of things in

8956
05:54:04,510 --> 05:54:08,110
the city like that they don't

8957
05:54:08,748 --> 05:54:09,617
even know that's going on.

8958
05:54:09,617 --> 05:54:12,617
Like when SeaWorld didn't pay

8959
05:54:13,486 --> 05:54:14,220
rent for two years they should

8960
05:54:14,220 --> 05:54:18,420
have been on that for the first

8961
05:54:19,726 --> 05:54:20,594
week They stopped paying ever.

8962
05:54:20,594 --> 05:54:21,261
There's a lot of things in

8963
05:54:21,261 --> 05:54:24,861
the city that that guys are

8964
05:54:25,632 --> 05:54:26,266
skating with and the city

8965
05:54:26,266 --> 05:54:26,934
thinks everything's rosy.

8966
05:54:26,934 --> 05:54:27,601
That's why we don't have any

8967
05:54:27,601 --> 05:54:31,201
money at the stuff and then

8968
05:54:32,573 --> 05:54:33,206
collect the rent at Mission Bay

8969
05:54:33,206 --> 05:54:36,206
Park 30% of the guys were

8970
05:54:38,379 --> 05:54:39,179
laying the rent How the city

8971
05:54:39,179 --> 05:54:39,846
means I ask the COUNCILMAN A

8972
05:54:39,846 --> 05:54:42,246
question and answer period.

8973
05:54:43,784 --> 05:54:44,451
So when we talk we can ask you

8974
05:54:44,451 --> 05:54:44,785
guys a question and get an

8975
05:54:44,785 --> 05:54:46,785
answer.

8976
05:54:50,691 --> 05:54:51,458
So just talking about oblivion

8977
05:54:51,458 --> 05:54:52,250
and they'll answer a lot of

8978
05:54:52,250 --> 05:54:54,250
things Anyway, thanks.

8979
05:54:56,564 --> 05:54:57,300
>> Thank you Blair Brickman if

8980
05:54:57,300 --> 05:54:57,431
you can please.

8981
05:54:57,431 --> 05:54:57,831
>> And you.

8982
05:54:57,831 --> 05:54:58,231
All right.

8983
05:54:58,231 --> 05:55:00,231
Thank you.

8984
05:55:01,234 --> 05:55:01,602
Blair Beakman thank you for

8985
05:55:01,602 --> 05:55:02,336
this item.

8986
05:55:02,336 --> 05:55:03,300
Thank you that we're working on

8987
05:55:03,300 --> 05:55:05,403
these issues again with

8988
05:55:07,410 --> 05:55:07,440
possibility.

8989
05:55:07,440 --> 05:55:08,142
Thank you.

8990
05:55:08,142 --> 05:55:11,142
I'm interested in the subsidy

8991
05:55:13,681 --> 05:55:16,810
numbers that were presented

8992
05:55:19,520 --> 05:55:20,254
pretty hefty totals that are at

8993
05:55:20,254 --> 05:55:20,921
the management department waste

8994
05:55:20,921 --> 05:55:21,554
management department can do

8995
05:55:21,554 --> 05:55:22,256
themselves I think was 22

8996
05:55:22,256 --> 05:55:25,292
million and then they need an

8997
05:55:25,292 --> 05:55:25,993
additional 10 million from

8998
05:55:25,993 --> 05:55:26,694
the general fund each year at

8999
05:55:26,694 --> 05:55:30,294
this point good luck How that

9000
05:55:31,932 --> 05:55:32,666
can become a more

9001
05:55:32,666 --> 05:55:33,367
self-sustaining number and that

9002
05:55:33,367 --> 05:55:36,367
the department itself can can

9003
05:55:38,439 --> 05:55:39,400
rely on their own subsidy and

9004
05:55:39,400 --> 05:55:39,740
not on the general fund.

9005
05:55:39,740 --> 05:55:40,673
I don't know if that's a kind

9006
05:55:40,673 --> 05:55:43,710
of goal but it can be an

9007
05:55:43,710 --> 05:55:44,412
important goal possibly because

9008
05:55:44,412 --> 05:55:45,112
I don't know sort of efforts

9009
05:55:45,112 --> 05:55:48,712
Good luck in the efforts that

9010
05:55:49,816 --> 05:55:50,484
we can talk about subsidy and

9011
05:55:50,484 --> 05:55:51,285
then we can talk about for

9012
05:55:51,285 --> 05:55:54,285
people who it's more difficult

9013
05:55:55,890 --> 05:55:56,590
to pay for services and

9014
05:55:56,590 --> 05:56:00,190
possibly get help And then for

9015
05:56:01,295 --> 05:56:02,950
people who can pay for services

9016
05:56:02,950 --> 05:56:02,396
they possibly don't need you as

9017
05:56:02,396 --> 05:56:03,640
much.

9018
05:56:03,640 --> 05:56:06,640
And it's really an important

9019
05:56:07,401 --> 05:56:07,902
question that I think we have

9020
05:56:07,902 --> 05:56:08,635
to really relearn.

9021
05:56:08,635 --> 05:56:09,336
I mean I think the other side

9022
05:56:09,336 --> 05:56:12,336
of the argument is interesting

9023
05:56:13,807 --> 05:56:14,509
but people simply are not being

9024
05:56:14,509 --> 05:56:15,750
able to pay for services that

9025
05:56:15,750 --> 05:56:17,475
we figure out systems.

9026
05:56:19,580 --> 05:56:20,281
I think that to help better

9027
05:56:20,281 --> 05:56:20,782
manage that And good luck with

9028
05:56:20,782 --> 05:56:23,182
the future of tech

9029
05:56:25,286 --> 05:56:26,870
accountability for the future

9030
05:56:26,870 --> 05:56:26,687
of our garbage that we ask

9031
05:56:26,687 --> 05:56:27,388
about the check and and

9032
05:56:27,388 --> 05:56:30,988
the okay to ask questions and

9033
05:56:35,263 --> 05:56:35,863
be accountable about the check

9034
05:56:35,863 --> 05:56:36,564
and Garbage on the Beach

9035
05:56:36,564 --> 05:56:37,265
program has concluded and that

9036
05:56:37,265 --> 05:56:37,999
is this will be comment on All

9037
05:56:37,999 --> 05:56:38,700
right thank you city clerk with

9038
05:56:38,700 --> 05:56:39,400
that will go to the architect

9039
05:56:39,400 --> 05:56:43,000
of this part of the settlement

9040
05:56:44,238 --> 05:56:44,871
agreement council member

9041
05:56:44,871 --> 05:56:45,540
Whitman thank you council

9042
05:56:45,540 --> 05:56:46,174
PRESIDENT I thank you to MR.

9043
05:56:46,174 --> 05:56:46,907
Power of the Environmental

9044
05:56:46,907 --> 05:56:48,710
Services Department And again I

9045
05:56:48,710 --> 05:56:49,410
think everybody at the city who

9046
05:56:49,410 --> 05:56:49,910
has worked on this this is

9047
05:56:49,910 --> 05:56:50,611
the other piece of

9048
05:56:50,611 --> 05:56:53,110
the negotiated settlement that

9049
05:56:55,150 --> 05:56:55,716
I presented to the city council

9050
05:56:55,716 --> 05:56:56,550
in closed session last month.

9051
05:56:56,550 --> 05:57:00,750
I want to highlight a change to

9052
05:57:01,489 --> 05:57:02,256
the negotiated trash fees that

9053
05:57:02,256 --> 05:57:02,924
I had out just last month And

9054
05:57:02,924 --> 05:57:06,728
it is good news The new fees

9055
05:57:06,728 --> 05:57:07,394
for the medium and smaller

9056
05:57:07,394 --> 05:57:07,995
sized trash bundles will be

9057
05:57:07,995 --> 05:57:10,395
even less than expected.

9058
05:57:12,434 --> 05:57:13,101
The 65 gallon medium sized

9059
05:57:13,101 --> 05:57:16,701
trash but it will drop by

9060
05:57:17,700 --> 05:57:17,739
another dollar 50 the 35 gallon

9061
05:57:17,739 --> 05:57:18,373
smaller sized trash bag will

9062
05:57:18,373 --> 05:57:20,773
drop by nearly another $4.

9063
05:57:23,645 --> 05:57:24,279
That is because the fees for

9064
05:57:24,279 --> 05:57:25,130
the medium and small trash

9065
05:57:25,130 --> 05:57:25,680
bottles have to be proportional

9066
05:57:25,680 --> 05:57:28,680
to the 95 gallon That large

9067
05:57:28,949 --> 05:57:29,584
trash bags, all that that drop

9068
05:57:29,584 --> 05:57:30,285
the fees for the medium to

9069
05:57:30,285 --> 05:57:31,190
small bottles by quite a bit.

9070
05:57:31,190 --> 05:57:34,689
So if you use either the medium

9071
05:57:34,689 --> 05:57:35,356
or the small trash cans,

9072
05:57:35,356 --> 05:57:36,487
today's news is even better

9073
05:57:36,487 --> 05:57:36,639
than it was last month.

9074
05:57:36,639 --> 05:57:39,894
And with that I will make

9075
05:57:39,894 --> 05:57:40,462
the motion to adopt

9076
05:57:40,462 --> 05:57:40,829
the proposed actions.

9077
05:57:40,829 --> 05:57:41,495
All right.

9078
05:57:41,495 --> 05:57:42,230
Thank you, Council members.

9079
05:57:42,230 --> 05:57:45,734
So we have a motion by Council

9080
05:57:45,734 --> 05:57:46,400
member whitburn.

9081
05:57:46,400 --> 05:57:46,768
This one's a little more

9082
05:57:46,768 --> 05:57:48,768
personal.

9083
05:57:49,838 --> 05:57:50,338
I'll take the opportunity to

9084
05:57:50,338 --> 05:57:51,105
second the motion.

9085
05:57:51,105 --> 05:57:54,705
And again in all seriousness to

9086
05:57:56,645 --> 05:57:57,345
thank Councilmember Weapon you

9087
05:57:57,345 --> 05:57:57,745
did a you were a tougher

9088
05:57:57,745 --> 05:57:59,745
negotiator.

9089
05:58:03,184 --> 05:58:03,818
You got a better deal than I

9090
05:58:03,818 --> 05:58:04,119
brought out the very first

9091
05:58:04,119 --> 05:58:04,886
time.

9092
05:58:04,886 --> 05:58:08,356
So kudos to you and MR. Zucker.

9093
05:58:08,356 --> 05:58:08,890
I think you made a very awesome

9094
05:58:08,890 --> 05:58:09,590
team in negotiating.

9095
05:58:09,590 --> 05:58:12,590
Unlike Baseball Park, this one

9096
05:58:14,729 --> 05:58:15,497
was subject of litigation.

9097
05:58:15,497 --> 05:58:16,310
This is a settlement agreement

9098
05:58:16,310 --> 05:58:16,698
of that litigation.

9099
05:58:16,698 --> 05:58:20,298
And as Mike McGarry said at

9100
05:58:20,735 --> 05:58:21,435
the press conference, we are no

9101
05:58:21,435 --> 05:58:22,300
longer litigating this issue.

9102
05:58:22,300 --> 05:58:24,403
We have a settlement.

9103
05:58:26,408 --> 05:58:26,842
We all then shake hands and

9104
05:58:26,842 --> 05:58:27,609
move forward.

9105
05:58:27,609 --> 05:58:28,176
So thank you Jeremy and Kirby

9106
05:58:28,176 --> 05:58:30,576
and mayor's office and

9107
05:58:33,648 --> 05:58:34,315
everybody in between that a did

9108
05:58:34,315 --> 05:58:34,983
the hard work to bring this

9109
05:58:34,983 --> 05:58:37,983
forward once the measure be

9110
05:58:39,654 --> 05:58:40,355
passed And I know that with a

9111
05:58:40,355 --> 05:58:41,230
lot of work going forward to

9112
05:58:41,230 --> 05:58:43,423
think about something for

9113
05:58:46,228 --> 05:58:46,862
the very first time and then

9114
05:58:46,862 --> 05:58:47,595
what I was thinking about

9115
05:58:47,595 --> 05:58:50,595
the settlement agreement I just

9116
05:58:52,233 --> 05:58:52,668
thought there'd be a press

9117
05:58:52,668 --> 05:58:53,368
release here.

9118
05:58:53,368 --> 05:58:54,350
The new numbers were all done

9119
05:58:54,350 --> 05:58:57,973
but you did the hard work of

9120
05:58:57,973 --> 05:58:58,607
actually digging and actually

9121
05:58:58,607 --> 05:58:59,341
documenting everything so

9122
05:58:59,341 --> 05:59:02,341
everybody knows exactly what is

9123
05:59:03,612 --> 05:59:06,120
happening in delivering on

9124
05:59:10,852 --> 05:59:11,154
the reduced 95 gallon on 28 and

9125
05:59:11,154 --> 05:59:11,820
29.

9126
05:59:11,820 --> 05:59:13,255
And I appreciate Councilmember

9127
05:59:13,255 --> 05:59:13,989
Lipman highlighting because I

9128
05:59:13,989 --> 05:59:14,690
know that was one of the things

9129
05:59:14,690 --> 05:59:17,759
that I was informed about that

9130
05:59:17,759 --> 05:59:18,427
we have to make sure that

9131
05:59:18,427 --> 05:59:20,827
the 65 and 35 were proposed

9132
05:59:23,197 --> 05:59:23,965
proportionately reduced as well

9133
05:59:23,965 --> 05:59:24,666
so that it wasn't just a

9134
05:59:24,666 --> 05:59:27,660
benefit to the 95 gallon

9135
05:59:29,300 --> 05:59:29,771
customers going forward.

9136
05:59:29,771 --> 05:59:30,638
As we were talking on the last

9137
05:59:30,638 --> 05:59:34,238
item that does come with a

9138
05:59:36,110 --> 05:59:36,711
financial impact in my judgment

9139
05:59:36,711 --> 05:59:37,345
the reason I pursue the first

9140
05:59:37,345 --> 05:59:40,345
one and perhaps the reason

9141
05:59:42,217 --> 05:59:42,918
Councilmember Lipman picked up

9142
05:59:42,918 --> 05:59:43,618
the ball and got the deal done

9143
05:59:43,618 --> 05:59:46,618
was that the alternative this

9144
05:59:46,989 --> 05:59:47,956
with much, much worse.

9145
05:59:47,956 --> 05:59:52,156
And so this was a good place

9146
05:59:52,494 --> 05:59:53,950
for us to land.

9147
05:59:53,950 --> 05:59:53,795
Everybody's talked about

9148
05:59:53,795 --> 05:59:56,795
the deficit that we're trying

9149
05:59:59,330 --> 05:59:59,735
to resolve this year If we

9150
05:59:59,735 --> 06:00:00,402
didn't have Measure b you can

9151
06:00:00,402 --> 06:00:02,802
only imagine how big

9152
06:00:05,774 --> 06:00:06,141
the deficit would have been

9153
06:00:06,141 --> 06:00:06,942
this year.

9154
06:00:06,942 --> 06:00:07,710
So while a lot of people were

9155
06:00:07,710 --> 06:00:10,946
frustrated about the feel of it

9156
06:00:10,946 --> 06:00:11,814
right the implementation I

9157
06:00:11,814 --> 06:00:16,140
think that we have landed at a

9158
06:00:16,619 --> 06:00:17,352
good place in this.

9159
06:00:17,352 --> 06:00:18,530
We're honoring the settlement

9160
06:00:18,530 --> 06:00:21,530
agreement we brought we talked

9161
06:00:22,691 --> 06:00:23,125
to this as soon as we could

9162
06:00:23,125 --> 06:00:23,559
going forward.

9163
06:00:23,559 --> 06:00:25,559
So good work.

9164
06:00:28,397 --> 06:00:29,640
I mean that's a staff has done

9165
06:00:29,640 --> 06:00:29,731
a lot of heroic work in

9166
06:00:29,731 --> 06:00:32,131
bringing this stuff forward

9167
06:00:34,536 --> 06:00:35,337
very greatly appreciate it And

9168
06:00:35,337 --> 06:00:36,380
as I said, the other item this

9169
06:00:36,380 --> 06:00:36,805
is the settlement here How we

9170
06:00:36,805 --> 06:00:40,142
got to where we are is no

9171
06:00:40,142 --> 06:00:40,810
reflection on staff.

9172
06:00:40,810 --> 06:00:41,476
You guys did excellent work.

9173
06:00:41,476 --> 06:00:44,476
I'm very grateful for that.

9174
06:00:46,148 --> 06:00:46,815
So with that I'm happy to

9175
06:00:46,815 --> 06:00:47,483
second the motion And now we

9176
06:00:47,483 --> 06:00:48,217
have a motion by COUNCILMAN

9177
06:00:48,217 --> 06:00:51,817
Whipple and second by myself to

9178
06:00:51,821 --> 06:00:52,455
move the recommendation will go

9179
06:00:52,455 --> 06:00:53,122
to Council Member Campion.

9180
06:00:53,122 --> 06:00:53,789
Thank you Council PRESIDENT

9181
06:00:53,789 --> 06:00:54,390
Thank you to Council member

9182
06:00:54,390 --> 06:00:56,790
Whitburn and you Council

9183
06:00:57,993 --> 06:00:58,728
PRESIDENT I will be in support

9184
06:00:58,728 --> 06:00:59,461
of the motion and thank you for

9185
06:00:59,461 --> 06:01:02,461
your direct and accurate words.

9186
06:01:04,400 --> 06:01:05,670
Today's actions help bring

9187
06:01:05,670 --> 06:01:05,735
the city's implementation of

9188
06:01:05,735 --> 06:01:06,435
the trash free more in line

9189
06:01:06,435 --> 06:01:07,103
with what voters believed they

9190
06:01:07,103 --> 06:01:09,705
were approving at the ballot

9191
06:01:09,705 --> 06:01:10,439
box and from the beginning my

9192
06:01:10,439 --> 06:01:11,107
core concern was that the final

9193
06:01:11,107 --> 06:01:11,707
proposal departed from that

9194
06:01:11,707 --> 06:01:14,107
expectation And so these

9195
06:01:15,444 --> 06:01:16,179
changes are an important step

9196
06:01:16,179 --> 06:01:16,879
towards restoring the trust and

9197
06:01:16,879 --> 06:01:17,513
providing relief to San Diego

9198
06:01:17,513 --> 06:01:18,149
who are facing significant

9199
06:01:18,149 --> 06:01:20,149
affordability challenges.

9200
06:01:21,850 --> 06:01:22,484
So we come closer to honoring

9201
06:01:22,484 --> 06:01:23,152
the will of the electorate

9202
06:01:23,152 --> 06:01:23,852
while continuing to provide

9203
06:01:23,852 --> 06:01:24,519
this essential city service in

9204
06:01:24,519 --> 06:01:27,560
a way that's reasonable and

9205
06:01:27,560 --> 06:01:27,523
responsive to the concerns of

9206
06:01:27,523 --> 06:01:28,190
our communities.

9207
06:01:28,190 --> 06:01:28,857
But lastly, one thing that I

9208
06:01:28,857 --> 06:01:29,358
never doubted or questioned

9209
06:01:29,358 --> 06:01:31,358
the expertise and

9210
06:01:33,329 --> 06:01:34,630
professionalism of our team

9211
06:01:34,630 --> 06:01:34,764
Jeremy and Kirby, thank you and

9212
06:01:34,764 --> 06:01:38,964
your team and sd I've seen you

9213
06:01:40,169 --> 06:01:40,870
in public answering questions.

9214
06:01:40,870 --> 06:01:41,236
You're excellent at your job.

9215
06:01:41,236 --> 06:01:41,604
Thank you.

9216
06:01:41,604 --> 06:01:42,271
Thank you.

9217
06:01:42,271 --> 06:01:42,972
Council PRESIDENT All right.

9218
06:01:42,972 --> 06:01:43,271
Thank you, Councilmember Camp.

9219
06:01:43,271 --> 06:01:45,271
Yeah.

9220
06:01:45,508 --> 06:01:45,975
We'll go next to Councilmember

9221
06:01:45,975 --> 06:01:46,408
Hill over there.

9222
06:01:46,408 --> 06:01:47,109
>> All right.

9223
06:01:47,109 --> 06:01:49,509
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.

9224
06:01:51,347 --> 06:01:51,981
Thank you Whitburn and council

9225
06:01:51,981 --> 06:01:52,281
PRESIDENT For your work on

9226
06:01:52,281 --> 06:01:52,949
this.

9227
06:01:52,949 --> 06:01:56,549
Jeremy, thank you to you and

9228
06:01:57,253 --> 06:01:57,753
the team for all the work to

9229
06:01:57,753 --> 06:02:00,153
get to this point.

9230
06:02:03,250 --> 06:02:06,625
Jordan as well I, I appreciate

9231
06:02:08,397 --> 06:02:09,265
the mention of the wrestling

9232
06:02:09,265 --> 06:02:09,965
We're going to have to do with

9233
06:02:09,965 --> 06:02:10,700
the services that are provided

9234
06:02:10,700 --> 06:02:14,704
and the cost that those come to

9235
06:02:14,704 --> 06:02:15,471
the city and with the impacts

9236
06:02:15,471 --> 06:02:16,172
of not providing those services

9237
06:02:16,172 --> 06:02:16,839
not just from an environmental

9238
06:02:16,839 --> 06:02:19,239
perspective which there are

9239
06:02:20,210 --> 06:02:20,876
significant impacts there but

9240
06:02:20,876 --> 06:02:24,476
from a cost perspective on a

9241
06:02:26,490 --> 06:02:26,816
long term basis as well.

9242
06:02:26,816 --> 06:02:29,816
For example the city receives

9243
06:02:32,288 --> 06:02:32,989
tipping fees and Miramar and if

9244
06:02:32,989 --> 06:02:33,756
we have to close Miramar we

9245
06:02:33,756 --> 06:02:36,756
would no longer receive those

9246
06:02:38,193 --> 06:02:38,661
tipping fees, correct?

9247
06:02:38,661 --> 06:02:40,661
That's correct.

9248
06:02:44,133 --> 06:02:47,733
And what what are those tipping

9249
06:02:50,640 --> 06:02:51,508
fees amount to to pay for?

9250
06:02:51,508 --> 06:02:52,175
>> I believe it's $84 a ton.

9251
06:02:52,175 --> 06:02:52,775
Speaking for member I don't

9252
06:02:52,775 --> 06:02:56,311
have it in front of me.

9253
06:02:56,311 --> 06:02:57,112
I mean like big picture it not

9254
06:02:57,112 --> 06:03:00,112
only is required to run

9255
06:03:03,219 --> 06:03:03,920
the facility itself right where

9256
06:03:03,920 --> 06:03:04,788
that what from like an annual

9257
06:03:04,788 --> 06:03:06,690
basis how much does that amount

9258
06:03:06,690 --> 06:03:09,259
to that $84 per ton We'll have

9259
06:03:09,259 --> 06:03:12,859
we'll get back to you Jordan

9260
06:03:16,310 --> 06:03:16,832
give a ballpark one second

9261
06:03:16,832 --> 06:03:21,320
while I'm looking at up I would

9262
06:03:22,500 --> 06:03:22,772
actually say it's twofold So

9263
06:03:22,772 --> 06:03:27,572
it's the fees to do is the fees

9264
06:03:28,770 --> 06:03:28,645
to run the Miramar landfill

9265
06:03:28,645 --> 06:03:29,179
which are substantial.

9266
06:03:29,179 --> 06:03:31,579
Those fees are also

9267
06:03:33,884 --> 06:03:34,584
substantially paid by trash

9268
06:03:34,584 --> 06:03:35,152
collect by the individuals who

9269
06:03:35,152 --> 06:03:35,551
are paying into trash

9270
06:03:35,551 --> 06:03:36,252
collection.

9271
06:03:36,252 --> 06:03:39,852
If you no longer have Miramar,

9272
06:03:40,190 --> 06:03:40,891
you no longer have some control

9273
06:03:40,891 --> 06:03:41,591
over those tipping fees If you

9274
06:03:41,591 --> 06:03:45,191
have to go to other landfills,

9275
06:03:45,795 --> 06:03:46,463
the cost to the city to dispose

9276
06:03:46,463 --> 06:03:47,130
of the trash collected would

9277
06:03:47,130 --> 06:03:50,730
also go up and would require

9278
06:03:52,169 --> 06:03:52,936
either higher fees on residents

9279
06:03:52,936 --> 06:03:53,603
or larger general fund subsidy.

9280
06:03:53,603 --> 06:03:53,970
That was the second part of

9281
06:03:53,970 --> 06:03:54,271
the point.

9282
06:03:54,271 --> 06:03:56,271
Okay.

9283
06:03:57,908 --> 06:03:58,575
Yes.

9284
06:03:58,575 --> 06:04:02,175
But yeah, the point being is

9285
06:04:03,847 --> 06:04:04,714
that keeping Miramar open is

9286
06:04:04,714 --> 06:04:05,348
not again just a matter of good

9287
06:04:05,348 --> 06:04:07,348
faith, good environmental

9288
06:04:10,687 --> 06:04:11,354
stewardship and living up to

9289
06:04:11,354 --> 06:04:11,621
the climate control that we

9290
06:04:11,621 --> 06:04:12,256
set.

9291
06:04:12,256 --> 06:04:14,256
There's enormous, enormous

9292
06:04:17,600 --> 06:04:17,494
financial cost associated with

9293
06:04:17,494 --> 06:04:18,262
that as well.

9294
06:04:18,262 --> 06:04:18,895
And so Council PRESIDENT It's a

9295
06:04:18,895 --> 06:04:19,563
conversation we're having

9296
06:04:19,563 --> 06:04:21,963
environmentally I think it's

9297
06:04:22,165 --> 06:04:22,933
something that the full council

9298
06:04:22,933 --> 06:04:23,633
really is going to need to

9299
06:04:23,633 --> 06:04:26,330
wrestle with because that

9300
06:04:28,437 --> 06:04:29,405
horizon that cliff I should say

9301
06:04:29,405 --> 06:04:33,605
is not that far out And and

9302
06:04:33,944 --> 06:04:34,611
anything that we are not

9303
06:04:34,611 --> 06:04:35,212
diverting from the landfill

9304
06:04:35,212 --> 06:04:38,212
speeds up the closure of

9305
06:04:39,583 --> 06:04:40,217
the landfill and the closure of

9306
06:04:40,217 --> 06:04:40,884
landfill comes again with

9307
06:04:40,884 --> 06:04:42,884
significant financial costs.

9308
06:04:45,389 --> 06:04:45,889
And so I fully understand why

9309
06:04:45,889 --> 06:04:46,556
we're here today.

9310
06:04:46,556 --> 06:04:50,156
I think it's good that folks

9311
06:04:52,290 --> 06:04:52,796
will be paying less And just

9312
06:04:52,796 --> 06:04:53,564
for all of us to know there's

9313
06:04:53,564 --> 06:04:57,764
there's no easy way out of this

9314
06:04:58,269 --> 06:04:58,969
because if the if what we're

9315
06:04:58,969 --> 06:04:59,670
hoping is that we simply will

9316
06:04:59,670 --> 06:05:02,670
reduce services to avoid some

9317
06:05:03,707 --> 06:05:04,441
of the financial impacts in

9318
06:05:04,441 --> 06:05:08,410
the next budget year there will

9319
06:05:10,981 --> 06:05:11,615
be a freight train heading out

9320
06:05:11,615 --> 06:05:14,615
as a fiscal freight train

9321
06:05:15,285 --> 06:05:15,986
coming at us 2 or 3 years down

9322
06:05:15,986 --> 06:05:16,286
the road from from punting on

9323
06:05:16,286 --> 06:05:18,286
that.

9324
06:05:20,591 --> 06:05:21,292
So as with everything as it

9325
06:05:21,292 --> 06:05:21,859
relates to the city's budget,

9326
06:05:21,859 --> 06:05:22,493
there's no easy outs.

9327
06:05:22,493 --> 06:05:22,992
We're going to need to be

9328
06:05:22,992 --> 06:05:24,992
better resourced.

9329
06:05:26,931 --> 06:05:27,631
I think the goal from

9330
06:05:27,631 --> 06:05:31,231
the beginning was for there to

9331
06:05:31,902 --> 06:05:32,570
be a subsidy and the hope that

9332
06:05:32,570 --> 06:05:33,270
additional revenue from 2024

9333
06:05:33,270 --> 06:05:36,270
whatever gap there was between

9334
06:05:38,742 --> 06:05:39,276
the projected amount and what

9335
06:05:39,276 --> 06:05:39,976
the actual cost was,

9336
06:05:39,976 --> 06:05:42,976
the general fund could absorb

9337
06:05:45,950 --> 06:05:46,817
that and we ended up with no no

9338
06:05:46,817 --> 06:05:47,184
slot in line And so so here we

9339
06:05:47,184 --> 06:05:49,184
are again.

9340
06:05:50,860 --> 06:05:50,554
I appreciate all the work that

9341
06:05:50,554 --> 06:05:51,422
went into this.

9342
06:05:51,422 --> 06:05:55,293
I just want to be sure we all

9343
06:05:55,293 --> 06:05:55,960
know whether it's reducing

9344
06:05:55,960 --> 06:05:56,660
the amount of recycling that

9345
06:05:56,660 --> 06:05:59,660
we're collecting or not doing

9346
06:06:01,499 --> 06:06:02,198
bulky item pickup that will

9347
06:06:02,198 --> 06:06:05,798
have a fiscal impact and that

9348
06:06:08,872 --> 06:06:09,740
fiscal impact will come much

9349
06:06:09,740 --> 06:06:10,730
sooner than any of us want it

9350
06:06:10,730 --> 06:06:10,574
to come.

9351
06:06:10,574 --> 06:06:11,800
>> I think you got

9352
06:06:11,800 --> 06:06:11,375
the resident.

9353
06:06:11,375 --> 06:06:13,375
All right.

9354
06:06:14,945 --> 06:06:15,278
Thank you, Councilmember Rivera

9355
06:06:15,278 --> 06:06:16,112
.

9356
06:06:16,112 --> 06:06:16,447
We'll go next to Councilmember

9357
06:06:16,447 --> 06:06:17,810
Wolpert.

9358
06:06:17,810 --> 06:06:17,782
Thank you And I thank you

9359
06:06:17,782 --> 06:06:20,170
Council for what we're in for

9360
06:06:20,170 --> 06:06:20,684
your work on everything.

9361
06:06:20,684 --> 06:06:21,452
I appreciate you very much.

9362
06:06:21,452 --> 06:06:25,520
You know, I had voted against

9363
06:06:25,489 --> 06:06:25,956
the trash fee to begin with for

9364
06:06:25,956 --> 06:06:26,590
similar reasons.

9365
06:06:26,590 --> 06:06:26,957
I voted against water rate

9366
06:06:26,957 --> 06:06:27,692
increases.

9367
06:06:27,692 --> 06:06:27,992
We don't need to increase water

9368
06:06:27,992 --> 06:06:29,992
rates.

9369
06:06:31,662 --> 06:06:32,430
The water department can do

9370
06:06:32,430 --> 06:06:32,763
better and we're seeing them do

9371
06:06:32,763 --> 06:06:33,464
better.

9372
06:06:33,464 --> 06:06:33,898
They're finally selling excess

9373
06:06:33,898 --> 06:06:35,898
water rights.

9374
06:06:36,300 --> 06:06:36,601
We don't need two other things

9375
06:06:36,601 --> 06:06:37,335
to do.

9376
06:06:37,335 --> 06:06:38,202
I also don't think that we

9377
06:06:38,202 --> 06:06:41,802
needed to buy new trash cans

9378
06:06:42,272 --> 06:06:43,400
for everybody.

9379
06:06:43,400 --> 06:06:43,674
We could have used that money

9380
06:06:43,674 --> 06:06:44,375
instead to provide weekly

9381
06:06:44,375 --> 06:06:44,842
recycling so we don't need to

9382
06:06:44,842 --> 06:06:46,842
redo the trash.

9383
06:06:47,745 --> 06:06:48,445
We we can do better And so

9384
06:06:48,445 --> 06:06:49,146
the cost of living is already

9385
06:06:49,146 --> 06:06:49,781
high enough in San Diego that

9386
06:06:49,781 --> 06:06:52,781
we could always have done

9387
06:06:53,618 --> 06:06:54,452
better.

9388
06:06:54,452 --> 06:06:55,118
So I wish we didn't have to

9389
06:06:55,118 --> 06:06:55,786
deal with this at all But we

9390
06:06:55,786 --> 06:06:59,390
are where we are and I will

9391
06:06:59,390 --> 06:07:00,191
support the settlement today

9392
06:07:00,191 --> 06:07:00,858
because it helps get us closer

9393
06:07:00,858 --> 06:07:01,325
to where we should have been

9394
06:07:01,325 --> 06:07:01,758
the whole time.

9395
06:07:01,758 --> 06:07:02,126
So thank you.

9396
06:07:02,126 --> 06:07:04,126
All right.

9397
06:07:05,830 --> 06:07:06,163
Thank you Councilmember John

9398
06:07:06,163 --> 06:07:06,897
Wolpert.

9399
06:07:06,897 --> 06:07:07,231
We'll go next to Council foster

9400
06:07:07,231 --> 06:07:09,231
Oh yes.

9401
06:07:11,102 --> 06:07:11,835
Thank you Council PRESIDENT And

9402
06:07:11,835 --> 06:07:14,835
thank you for the presentation.

9403
06:07:17,208 --> 06:07:21,408
I too did not support the trash

9404
06:07:23,214 --> 06:07:23,548
fees or the water rate increase

9405
06:07:23,548 --> 06:07:24,381
as well.

9406
06:07:24,381 --> 06:07:28,581
But I do have a question just

9407
06:07:30,321 --> 06:07:30,989
to in regards to my colleague

9408
06:07:30,989 --> 06:07:31,623
Councilmember Eli Rivera and

9409
06:07:31,623 --> 06:07:34,623
the tipping passes I would

9410
06:07:35,293 --> 06:07:36,270
assume as we are working

9411
06:07:36,270 --> 06:07:39,627
through this, one of the things

9412
06:07:39,864 --> 06:07:40,565
that we do and we do it quite

9413
06:07:40,565 --> 06:07:41,232
often in District four what we

9414
06:07:41,232 --> 06:07:44,232
call dumpster days where we

9415
06:07:45,770 --> 06:07:46,638
have tipping passes.

9416
06:07:46,638 --> 06:07:47,405
I'm assuming those all are in

9417
06:07:47,405 --> 06:07:50,405
this conversation as well in

9418
06:07:51,943 --> 06:07:52,644
regards to the ability to

9419
06:07:52,644 --> 06:07:55,644
maintain that type of service

9420
06:07:58,183 --> 06:07:59,500
that we do in the district that

9421
06:07:59,500 --> 06:08:03,421
is also at risk as well as we

9422
06:08:03,421 --> 06:08:04,890
talk about the landfill and

9423
06:08:04,890 --> 06:08:04,489
able to manage our fees

9424
06:08:04,489 --> 06:08:04,822
accordingly.

9425
06:08:04,822 --> 06:08:06,822
Correct?

9426
06:08:09,961 --> 06:08:10,594
I think if the current

9427
06:08:10,594 --> 06:08:12,594
councilmember we're still

9428
06:08:14,265 --> 06:08:14,899
planning on approximately 99

9429
06:08:14,899 --> 06:08:17,899
events per year looking at

9430
06:08:18,436 --> 06:08:19,236
around nine of the larger

9431
06:08:19,236 --> 06:08:19,871
events per district and two of

9432
06:08:19,871 --> 06:08:20,572
that 39 of the smaller per

9433
06:08:20,572 --> 06:08:21,500
district and two of the bigger

9434
06:08:21,500 --> 06:08:23,500
four district.

9435
06:08:24,209 --> 06:08:24,542
So as of now there's no direct

9436
06:08:24,542 --> 06:08:25,210
impact.

9437
06:08:25,210 --> 06:08:25,777
But to your point the larger

9438
06:08:25,777 --> 06:08:27,777
discussions about city

9439
06:08:30,314 --> 06:08:31,820
priorities and a finite budget

9440
06:08:31,820 --> 06:08:31,449
than that is that is a true

9441
06:08:31,449 --> 06:08:31,750
statement.

9442
06:08:31,750 --> 06:08:33,750
Okay.

9443
06:08:36,421 --> 06:08:36,988
And those events that you were

9444
06:08:36,988 --> 06:08:39,388
referring to are those

9445
06:08:42,560 --> 06:08:42,928
the curbside environmental

9446
06:08:42,928 --> 06:08:43,662
services?

9447
06:08:43,662 --> 06:08:44,729
Those are curbside but we also

9448
06:08:44,729 --> 06:08:48,666
do our own where we can go out

9449
06:08:48,666 --> 06:08:49,367
and we MAY have as many as ten

9450
06:08:49,367 --> 06:08:52,967
bins or whatever the case MAY

9451
06:08:55,400 --> 06:08:55,607
be where we provide that to our

9452
06:08:55,607 --> 06:08:55,907
various neighborhoods.

9453
06:08:55,907 --> 06:08:57,907
Right.

9454
06:09:00,912 --> 06:09:01,613
We do want a district for every

9455
06:09:01,613 --> 06:09:02,380
corner that we sponsor but we

9456
06:09:02,380 --> 06:09:05,980
also help our our neighbor, our

9457
06:09:06,718 --> 06:09:07,352
neighborhoods in regards to our

9458
06:09:07,352 --> 06:09:07,685
town councils and certain

9459
06:09:07,685 --> 06:09:08,386
things.

9460
06:09:08,386 --> 06:09:11,986
What I'm hearing is those two

9461
06:09:13,910 --> 06:09:13,792
will be at risk potentially as

9462
06:09:13,792 --> 06:09:14,492
we continue as you talk about

9463
06:09:14,492 --> 06:09:16,892
the larger conversation where

9464
06:09:18,797 --> 06:09:19,397
that type of amenity or service

9465
06:09:19,397 --> 06:09:19,797
will go away as well.

9466
06:09:19,797 --> 06:09:20,565
>> Correct.

9467
06:09:20,565 --> 06:09:24,165
And to the extent that those

9468
06:09:25,304 --> 06:09:26,370
leverage free tipping passes at

9469
06:09:26,370 --> 06:09:26,638
the landfill when the landfills

9470
06:09:26,638 --> 06:09:27,205
ultimate expiration date

9471
06:09:27,205 --> 06:09:29,205
approaches, then that

9472
06:09:32,770 --> 06:09:32,377
opportunity ceases.

9473
06:09:32,377 --> 06:09:32,944
Okay.

9474
06:09:32,944 --> 06:09:33,312
Thank you for that.

9475
06:09:33,312 --> 06:09:33,678
All right.

9476
06:09:33,678 --> 06:09:34,245
Thank you.

9477
06:09:34,245 --> 06:09:36,245
Councilmember Foster.

9478
06:09:38,216 --> 06:09:38,617
I not see anybody else in

9479
06:09:38,617 --> 06:09:39,317
the lights.

9480
06:09:39,317 --> 06:09:39,952
We do have a motion by Council

9481
06:09:39,952 --> 06:09:42,952
whipper and the second by

9482
06:09:42,954 --> 06:09:43,622
myself to move the staff

9483
06:09:43,622 --> 06:09:44,550
recommendation Clerk please

9484
06:09:44,550 --> 06:09:44,790
call the roll.

9485
06:09:44,790 --> 06:09:47,790
>> I'm sorry The voting system.

9486
06:09:55,134 --> 06:09:55,868
Please cast your vote That

9487
06:09:55,868 --> 06:09:56,535
passes nine unanimously 9 to 0.

9488
06:09:56,535 --> 06:09:56,834
Thank you Also PRESIDENT All

9489
06:09:56,834 --> 06:09:58,834
right.

9490
06:10:00,972 --> 06:10:01,473
Thank you.

9491
06:10:01,473 --> 06:10:02,374
>> All right.

9492
06:10:02,374 --> 06:10:06,344
Five 515 We got a lot of big

9493
06:10:06,344 --> 06:10:07,112
business that we've already

9494
06:10:07,112 --> 06:10:07,879
gotten done but stay tuned.

9495
06:10:07,879 --> 06:10:08,146
We've got three more items to

9496
06:10:08,146 --> 06:10:10,146
go.

9497
06:10:12,985 --> 06:10:13,285
So clerk please introduce item

9498
06:10:13,285 --> 06:10:13,852
631.

9499
06:10:13,852 --> 06:10:14,553
>> Item 631 is

9500
06:10:14,553 --> 06:10:17,423
the authorization for City of

9501
06:10:17,423 --> 06:10:18,156
San Diego Fiscal year 2027 tax

9502
06:10:18,156 --> 06:10:18,824
and revenue Anticipation And if

9503
06:10:18,824 --> 06:10:22,424
you'd like to speak on this

9504
06:10:23,963 --> 06:10:24,730
item please be sure to submit

9505
06:10:24,730 --> 06:10:25,431
your speakers up to the front

9506
06:10:25,431 --> 06:10:26,980
of the room into the clear box

9507
06:10:26,980 --> 06:10:26,732
or if you are participating

9508
06:10:26,732 --> 06:10:29,401
remotely now's the time to

9509
06:10:29,401 --> 06:10:30,102
raise your hand by pressing

9510
06:10:30,102 --> 06:10:30,469
Star nine or the raise your

9511
06:10:30,469 --> 06:10:31,203
hand icon.

9512
06:10:31,203 --> 06:10:31,503
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

9513
06:10:31,503 --> 06:10:33,503
right.

9514
06:10:35,708 --> 06:10:36,474
Thank you.

9515
06:10:36,474 --> 06:10:37,209
I see staff you're settling in.

9516
06:10:37,209 --> 06:10:37,910
Please introduce yourselves for

9517
06:10:37,910 --> 06:10:38,676
the record and let us know how

9518
06:10:38,676 --> 06:10:41,676
much time you need for

9519
06:10:44,516 --> 06:10:44,984
the presentation.

9520
06:10:44,984 --> 06:10:45,451
Good afternoon.

9521
06:10:45,451 --> 06:10:47,451
Good afternoon.

9522
06:10:50,389 --> 06:10:51,890
Council PRESIDENT Council

9523
06:10:51,890 --> 06:10:51,724
members My name is Richard

9524
06:10:51,724 --> 06:10:52,458
Eyre, Financial Operations

9525
06:10:52,458 --> 06:10:55,458
Manager for the Debt Management

9526
06:10:57,463 --> 06:10:58,330
Division Department of Finance

9527
06:10:58,330 --> 06:10:58,964
with me today as Michael as a

9528
06:10:58,964 --> 06:11:00,964
car financing coordinator.

9529
06:11:01,400 --> 06:11:02,330
We'll need approximately ten

9530
06:11:02,330 --> 06:11:02,635
minutes when you're ready.

9531
06:11:02,635 --> 06:11:05,350
Today we were requesting

9532
06:11:07,873 --> 06:11:08,541
authorization for a resolution

9533
06:11:08,541 --> 06:11:09,175
to execute the city's fiscal

9534
06:11:09,175 --> 06:11:11,575
year 2027 Tax and revenue

9535
06:11:13,946 --> 06:11:14,646
anticipation notes or trends

9536
06:11:14,646 --> 06:11:15,247
and related documents in an

9537
06:11:15,247 --> 06:11:15,948
amount not to exceed 340

9538
06:11:15,948 --> 06:11:18,948
million to fund the projected

9539
06:11:21,200 --> 06:11:21,720
seasonal cash flow deficit of

9540
06:11:21,720 --> 06:11:22,880
the general fund during fiscal

9541
06:11:22,880 --> 06:11:24,880
year 2027.

9542
06:11:26,158 --> 06:11:26,758
Both the California Governor

9543
06:11:26,758 --> 06:11:27,426
Government Code and City

9544
06:11:27,426 --> 06:11:28,127
Charter authorize short term

9545
06:11:28,127 --> 06:11:30,527
borrowings to fund operations

9546
06:11:32,765 --> 06:11:33,432
in anticipation of

9547
06:11:33,432 --> 06:11:34,166
the collection of taxes and

9548
06:11:34,166 --> 06:11:34,467
revenues within the same fiscal

9549
06:11:34,467 --> 06:11:35,134
year.

9550
06:11:35,134 --> 06:11:38,134
The City Charter also limits

9551
06:11:38,537 --> 06:11:39,305
the amount of borrowing in a

9552
06:11:39,305 --> 06:11:42,905
fiscal year to no more than 25%

9553
06:11:44,443 --> 06:11:45,211
of budgeted appropriations.

9554
06:11:45,211 --> 06:11:45,911
Trends are a fairly common cash

9555
06:11:45,911 --> 06:11:46,612
management financing tool used

9556
06:11:46,612 --> 06:11:49,612
by state and local governments

9557
06:11:50,983 --> 06:11:51,617
to bridge cash flow Gaps

9558
06:11:51,617 --> 06:11:52,285
between large expenditures

9559
06:11:52,285 --> 06:11:52,985
occurred early in the fiscal

9560
06:11:52,985 --> 06:11:56,585
year and the receipt of taxes

9561
06:11:56,823 --> 06:11:57,190
and other revenues later in

9562
06:11:57,190 --> 06:11:57,924
the year.

9563
06:11:57,924 --> 06:11:58,591
The city has utilized trends in

9564
06:11:58,591 --> 06:12:01,591
prior years most recently in

9565
06:12:03,295 --> 06:12:05,295
fiscal year 2013.

9566
06:12:08,100 --> 06:12:08,768
So why are trends needed now?

9567
06:12:08,768 --> 06:12:09,501
Since 2013 the city has

9568
06:12:09,501 --> 06:12:10,235
generally maintained sufficient

9569
06:12:10,235 --> 06:12:13,235
cash fund balances within funds

9570
06:12:14,674 --> 06:12:15,408
considered available to

9571
06:12:15,408 --> 06:12:16,142
the General fund to manage cash

9572
06:12:16,142 --> 06:12:18,542
flow timing differences without

9573
06:12:20,113 --> 06:12:20,412
the need for external borrowing

9574
06:12:20,412 --> 06:12:21,800
.

9575
06:12:21,800 --> 06:12:21,781
In recent years, however,

9576
06:12:21,781 --> 06:12:22,515
several factors have combined

9577
06:12:22,515 --> 06:12:25,785
to warrant the use of the notes

9578
06:12:25,785 --> 06:12:26,552
for the coming fiscal year.

9579
06:12:26,552 --> 06:12:27,220
Covid relief funds that were

9580
06:12:27,220 --> 06:12:29,620
temporarily used to support

9581
06:12:31,591 --> 06:12:31,891
operations have been exhausted

9582
06:12:31,891 --> 06:12:32,658
.

9583
06:12:32,658 --> 06:12:33,393
Also due to budgetary pressures

9584
06:12:33,393 --> 06:12:34,600
over recent years, general fund

9585
06:12:34,600 --> 06:12:37,600
access equity has been drawn

9586
06:12:38,831 --> 06:12:39,499
down and the city has not made

9587
06:12:39,499 --> 06:12:39,933
contributions to its general

9588
06:12:39,933 --> 06:12:40,666
fund reserves.

9589
06:12:40,666 --> 06:12:43,660
Additionally, the Department of

9590
06:12:44,604 --> 06:12:45,171
Finance has completed analysis

9591
06:12:45,171 --> 06:12:45,872
of certain operational

9592
06:12:45,872 --> 06:12:48,272
operating funds also referred

9593
06:12:50,510 --> 06:12:51,210
to as policy funds to reassess

9594
06:12:51,210 --> 06:12:51,811
their availability for general

9595
06:12:51,811 --> 06:12:54,211
fund cash flow purposes.

9596
06:12:56,490 --> 06:12:56,682
As a result of these factors

9597
06:12:56,682 --> 06:12:57,316
the Department of Finance

9598
06:12:57,316 --> 06:12:59,716
projects monthly cash flow

9599
06:13:00,453 --> 06:13:01,221
shortfalls during the first

9600
06:13:01,221 --> 06:13:01,921
half of fiscal year 2027 that

9601
06:13:01,921 --> 06:13:05,521
can be bridged by the notes

9602
06:13:06,525 --> 06:13:07,193
excuse me.

9603
06:13:07,193 --> 06:13:07,894
The current financing plan

9604
06:13:07,894 --> 06:13:10,894
anticipates the trains will be

9605
06:13:11,864 --> 06:13:12,532
issued on JULY 1st, 2026,

9606
06:13:12,532 --> 06:13:13,266
the same date as the pension

9607
06:13:13,266 --> 06:13:15,666
contribution payment and repaid

9608
06:13:17,971 --> 06:13:18,405
at the end of the fiscal year

9609
06:13:18,405 --> 06:13:19,720
on JUNE 30th.

9610
06:13:19,720 --> 06:13:19,639
The exact size of borrowing

9611
06:13:19,639 --> 06:13:22,390
will be determined by

9612
06:13:23,610 --> 06:13:24,310
the maximum projected general

9613
06:13:24,310 --> 06:13:25,110
fund cash flow deficit during

9614
06:13:25,110 --> 06:13:28,110
the fiscal year and repayments

9615
06:13:29,215 --> 06:13:29,816
of the notes is secured by

9616
06:13:29,816 --> 06:13:30,483
pledged fiscal year 2027

9617
06:13:30,483 --> 06:13:32,483
Unrestricted revenues which

9618
06:13:35,689 --> 06:13:36,423
include taxes other revenues,

9619
06:13:36,423 --> 06:13:39,423
cash receipts and other general

9620
06:13:39,793 --> 06:13:40,559
fund monies attributable to

9621
06:13:40,559 --> 06:13:41,294
fiscal year 2027 as part of

9622
06:13:41,294 --> 06:13:41,928
the financing structure and for

9623
06:13:41,928 --> 06:13:44,328
the benefit of investors.

9624
06:13:45,999 --> 06:13:46,666
A portion of the notes debt

9625
06:13:46,666 --> 06:13:47,367
service will be periodically

9626
06:13:47,367 --> 06:13:47,834
set aside in a separately held

9627
06:13:47,834 --> 06:13:49,834
repayment fund.

9628
06:13:52,370 --> 06:13:52,772
These set asides generally

9629
06:13:52,772 --> 06:13:56,372
occur when the receipt of major

9630
06:13:57,244 --> 06:13:57,944
property tax revenues or after

9631
06:13:57,944 --> 06:13:58,611
the receipt of major property

9632
06:13:58,611 --> 06:13:59,345
tax revenues with set aside

9633
06:13:59,345 --> 06:14:01,345
installments currently expected

9634
06:14:03,483 --> 06:14:04,450
to begin in JANUARY.

9635
06:14:04,450 --> 06:14:08,650
I'll turn it over to Mike to

9636
06:14:09,423 --> 06:14:09,923
provide a few more details.

9637
06:14:09,923 --> 06:14:10,590
>> Thanks Mitch.

9638
06:14:10,590 --> 06:14:11,291
Moving into the popular key

9639
06:14:11,291 --> 06:14:11,992
financing elements, the issue

9640
06:14:11,992 --> 06:14:14,995
of the notes will be the city

9641
06:14:14,995 --> 06:14:15,695
of San Diego.

9642
06:14:15,695 --> 06:14:16,395
The financing is expected to

9643
06:14:16,395 --> 06:14:16,897
consist of a single series of

9644
06:14:16,897 --> 06:14:18,897
short term notes.

9645
06:14:20,967 --> 06:14:21,701
The repayment source is pledged

9646
06:14:21,701 --> 06:14:22,335
to fiscal year 27 unrestricted

9647
06:14:22,335 --> 06:14:23,350
revenues and the notes are

9648
06:14:23,350 --> 06:14:27,235
expected to be issued on a tax

9649
06:14:27,641 --> 06:14:28,308
exempt basis with a final

9650
06:14:28,308 --> 06:14:28,909
maturity of JUNE 30th 2027.

9651
06:14:28,909 --> 06:14:31,309
Based on current market

9652
06:14:33,546 --> 06:14:34,247
conditions, staff is targeting

9653
06:14:34,247 --> 06:14:34,948
a public offering through a

9654
06:14:34,948 --> 06:14:35,615
competitive sale process which

9655
06:14:35,615 --> 06:14:39,215
allows the market to bid on

9656
06:14:39,486 --> 06:14:40,187
the notes and provides the city

9657
06:14:40,187 --> 06:14:40,821
with an opportunity to obtain

9658
06:14:40,821 --> 06:14:41,520
the lowest borrowing cost.

9659
06:14:41,520 --> 06:14:43,920
The financing documents before

9660
06:14:46,526 --> 06:14:47,127
council today in addition to

9661
06:14:47,127 --> 06:14:47,594
the financing resolution

9662
06:14:47,594 --> 06:14:48,261
include forms of

9663
06:14:48,261 --> 06:14:48,862
the accompanying documents.

9664
06:14:48,862 --> 06:14:50,862
The preliminary official

9665
06:14:52,433 --> 06:14:53,133
statement, the continuing

9666
06:14:53,133 --> 06:14:53,867
disclosure certificate paying

9667
06:14:53,867 --> 06:14:56,867
agent agreement, notice of sale

9668
06:14:58,772 --> 06:14:59,406
and if necessary a note

9669
06:14:59,406 --> 06:15:00,730
purchase agreement Should

9670
06:15:00,730 --> 06:15:00,541
market conditions warrant a

9671
06:15:00,541 --> 06:15:02,541
negotiated sale.

9672
06:15:04,211 --> 06:15:04,912
The ratings on the grants have

9673
06:15:04,912 --> 06:15:05,679
been received since docketing

9674
06:15:05,679 --> 06:15:06,480
in our sp one plus and f one

9675
06:15:06,480 --> 06:15:10,800
plus by s&p and Fitch

9676
06:15:10,716 --> 06:15:11,418
respectively.

9677
06:15:11,418 --> 06:15:12,520
These are the highest short

9678
06:15:12,520 --> 06:15:12,753
term ratings available and

9679
06:15:12,753 --> 06:15:15,753
Fitch has affirmed the city's

9680
06:15:19,590 --> 06:15:22,590
long term issuer rating plus

9681
06:15:25,199 --> 06:15:25,532
based on projected cash flow

9682
06:15:25,532 --> 06:15:26,266
deficit.

9683
06:15:26,266 --> 06:15:26,900
The estimated size of the notes

9684
06:15:26,900 --> 06:15:27,234
will be approximately 332

9685
06:15:27,234 --> 06:15:29,234
million.

9686
06:15:30,971 --> 06:15:31,672
The estimated effective

9687
06:15:31,672 --> 06:15:32,373
interest rate based on recent

9688
06:15:32,373 --> 06:15:34,773
market conditions is estimated

9689
06:15:35,675 --> 06:15:36,276
at 2.5% and the not to exceed

9690
06:15:36,276 --> 06:15:36,844
interest rate stated in

9691
06:15:36,844 --> 06:15:38,844
the resolution is 5%.

9692
06:15:41,481 --> 06:15:42,182
Current estimates projected net

9693
06:15:42,182 --> 06:15:42,582
interest cost of approximately

9694
06:15:42,582 --> 06:15:43,316
8.5 million.

9695
06:15:43,316 --> 06:15:46,916
But it's important to note that

9696
06:15:47,955 --> 06:15:48,622
staff does anticipate a

9697
06:15:48,622 --> 06:15:49,189
significant portion of those

9698
06:15:49,189 --> 06:15:49,890
costs to be offset by

9699
06:15:49,890 --> 06:15:51,890
investment earnings generated

9700
06:15:53,327 --> 06:15:54,610
on the repayment front deposits

9701
06:15:54,610 --> 06:15:54,695
and general fund cash balances.

9702
06:15:54,695 --> 06:15:55,362
These estimates again are

9703
06:15:55,362 --> 06:15:58,362
preliminary and are based on

9704
06:15:59,466 --> 06:16:00,133
fiscal year 27 draft budget

9705
06:16:00,133 --> 06:16:03,133
including the MAY revise and

9706
06:16:04,838 --> 06:16:05,606
current cash flow projections.

9707
06:16:05,606 --> 06:16:08,600
>> The general fund is

9708
06:16:09,210 --> 06:16:09,876
projected to begin fiscal year

9709
06:16:09,876 --> 06:16:10,511
27 with approximately 360.8

9710
06:16:10,511 --> 06:16:12,911
million in cash including

9711
06:16:16,650 --> 06:16:17,384
certain operating funds.

9712
06:16:17,384 --> 06:16:18,520
On JULY 1st the General fund is

9713
06:16:18,520 --> 06:16:18,685
scheduled to make its annual

9714
06:16:18,685 --> 06:16:21,850
atc payments just service

9715
06:16:22,890 --> 06:16:22,423
totaling approximately 396.1

9716
06:16:22,423 --> 06:16:23,900
million.

9717
06:16:23,900 --> 06:16:23,724
Without the trains borrowing

9718
06:16:23,724 --> 06:16:26,124
monthly general fund cash

9719
06:16:28,562 --> 06:16:29,163
balances are projected to

9720
06:16:29,163 --> 06:16:29,764
remain negative through

9721
06:16:29,764 --> 06:16:30,297
DECEMBER with a maximum

9722
06:16:30,297 --> 06:16:32,297
projected deficit of

9723
06:16:33,100 --> 06:16:33,800
approximately 360 million

9724
06:16:33,800 --> 06:16:34,401
occurring in NOVEMBER based on

9725
06:16:34,401 --> 06:16:34,735
the fiscal year 27 draft

9726
06:16:34,735 --> 06:16:36,735
budget.

9727
06:16:39,406 --> 06:16:40,107
Total projected general fund

9728
06:16:40,107 --> 06:16:40,808
receipts will be approximately

9729
06:16:40,808 --> 06:16:43,208
2.2 billion and the estimated

9730
06:16:43,711 --> 06:16:44,345
advance borrowing of

9731
06:16:44,345 --> 06:16:45,780
approximately 332 million

9732
06:16:45,780 --> 06:16:47,478
represents roughly 15% of those

9733
06:16:52,553 --> 06:16:52,853
projected general fund receipts

9734
06:16:52,853 --> 06:16:53,554
.

9735
06:16:53,554 --> 06:16:54,155
>> As previously discussed,

9736
06:16:54,155 --> 06:16:54,822
the city is required to

9737
06:16:54,822 --> 06:16:56,822
periodically deposit pledge

9738
06:16:58,626 --> 06:16:59,359
revenues into repayment fund

9739
06:16:59,359 --> 06:16:59,960
prior to maturity of the notes.

9740
06:16:59,960 --> 06:17:01,960
The projected repayment

9741
06:17:05,532 --> 06:17:06,234
schedule includes deposits of

9742
06:17:06,234 --> 06:17:08,234
approximately 104 million in

9743
06:17:09,937 --> 06:17:10,505
JANUARY 139 million in APRIL

9744
06:17:10,505 --> 06:17:11,205
and 24 million in MAY.

9745
06:17:11,205 --> 06:17:13,605
These deposits are structured

9746
06:17:15,142 --> 06:17:15,843
to accumulate sufficient funds

9747
06:17:15,843 --> 06:17:16,610
to repay both principal and

9748
06:17:16,610 --> 06:17:19,610
interest at maturity on JUNE

9749
06:17:19,914 --> 06:17:20,615
30th of 2027.

9750
06:17:20,615 --> 06:17:21,315
The table on the slide also

9751
06:17:21,315 --> 06:17:23,315
demonstrates strong projected

9752
06:17:25,719 --> 06:17:26,421
coverage levels meaning pledge

9753
06:17:26,421 --> 06:17:27,155
revenues over debt service

9754
06:17:27,155 --> 06:17:29,555
throughout the repayment period

9755
06:17:30,425 --> 06:17:30,757
with overall coverage of 1.75

9756
06:17:30,757 --> 06:17:31,459
times.

9757
06:17:31,459 --> 06:17:32,126
Based on current projections,

9758
06:17:32,126 --> 06:17:34,126
staff anticipates sufficient

9759
06:17:35,430 --> 06:17:36,164
pledge revenues will be

9760
06:17:36,164 --> 06:17:39,164
available to meet all repayment

9761
06:17:42,700 --> 06:17:42,704
bond requirements.

9762
06:17:42,704 --> 06:17:43,404
>> The financing team for

9763
06:17:43,404 --> 06:17:44,500
the transaction includes both

9764
06:17:44,500 --> 06:17:46,405
city staff and external

9765
06:17:48,376 --> 06:17:49,430
financing professionals.

9766
06:17:49,430 --> 06:17:49,644
Camden Public Finance is

9767
06:17:49,644 --> 06:17:50,345
serving as our municipal

9768
06:17:50,345 --> 06:17:52,745
divisor straddling uga Carlson

9769
06:17:53,915 --> 06:17:54,549
and Roth is serving as note and

9770
06:17:54,549 --> 06:17:55,250
disclosure Council us Bank

9771
06:17:55,250 --> 06:17:58,850
Trust company will serve as b

9772
06:17:59,420 --> 06:18:00,880
paying agent and in addition

9773
06:18:00,880 --> 06:18:00,755
the financing team includes

9774
06:18:00,755 --> 06:18:01,455
staff from the Department of

9775
06:18:01,455 --> 06:18:02,190
Finance, the city's attorney's

9776
06:18:02,190 --> 06:18:05,190
office and the city Treasurer's

9777
06:18:08,696 --> 06:18:09,396
office.

9778
06:18:09,396 --> 06:18:10,980
>> The next two slides provide

9779
06:18:10,980 --> 06:18:13,698
a brief summary of the related

9780
06:18:14,835 --> 06:18:15,436
financing documents to be

9781
06:18:15,436 --> 06:18:16,360
approved with this item.

9782
06:18:16,360 --> 06:18:16,604
The preliminary official

9783
06:18:16,604 --> 06:18:17,338
statement or policy is

9784
06:18:17,338 --> 06:18:19,738
the primary disclosure document

9785
06:18:20,608 --> 06:18:20,975
provided to potential

9786
06:18:20,975 --> 06:18:21,609
investors.

9787
06:18:21,609 --> 06:18:22,310
Its purpose is to provide

9788
06:18:22,310 --> 06:18:22,910
information that a reasonable

9789
06:18:22,910 --> 06:18:24,910
investor would consider

9790
06:18:26,381 --> 06:18:26,915
material in making an informed

9791
06:18:26,915 --> 06:18:27,481
investment decision.

9792
06:18:27,481 --> 06:18:28,215
The document includes

9793
06:18:28,215 --> 06:18:30,215
information regarding repayment

9794
06:18:32,787 --> 06:18:33,355
sources for the notes.

9795
06:18:33,355 --> 06:18:34,220
Cash Flow Projections.

9796
06:18:34,220 --> 06:18:34,622
City Financial Information.

9797
06:18:34,622 --> 06:18:36,622
Demographic and Economic

9798
06:18:38,693 --> 06:18:39,294
Information.

9799
06:18:39,294 --> 06:18:39,627
Risk Factors and Credit

9800
06:18:39,627 --> 06:18:40,360
ratings.

9801
06:18:40,360 --> 06:18:43,960
The policy has been prepared to

9802
06:18:44,320 --> 06:18:44,732
the city's disclosure practices

9803
06:18:44,732 --> 06:18:45,366
working group process and will

9804
06:18:45,366 --> 06:18:46,100
continue to be updated as

9805
06:18:46,100 --> 06:18:49,700
necessary prior to the sale of

9806
06:18:49,804 --> 06:18:50,505
the notes.

9807
06:18:50,505 --> 06:18:53,505
>> In addition to the polls,

9808
06:18:55,543 --> 06:18:56,177
council approval today includes

9809
06:18:56,177 --> 06:18:56,545
several related financing

9810
06:18:56,545 --> 06:18:57,245
documents.

9811
06:18:57,245 --> 06:18:57,913
These include the accompanying

9812
06:18:57,913 --> 06:19:00,313
document to the resolution.

9813
06:19:01,716 --> 06:19:02,416
The continuing disclosure

9814
06:19:02,416 --> 06:19:03,830
certificate, the paying agent

9815
06:19:03,830 --> 06:19:06,830
agreement and the notice of

9816
06:19:07,155 --> 06:19:07,889
sale against should market

9817
06:19:07,889 --> 06:19:08,590
conditions warrant a negotiated

9818
06:19:08,590 --> 06:19:08,890
sale rather than a competitive

9819
06:19:08,890 --> 06:19:10,792
sale.

9820
06:19:10,792 --> 06:19:14,392
Approval would also extend to a

9821
06:19:16,932 --> 06:19:17,699
note purchase agreement.

9822
06:19:17,699 --> 06:19:18,299
>> Finally, following Council

9823
06:19:18,299 --> 06:19:20,299
today, staff anticipates

9824
06:19:23,305 --> 06:19:23,939
releasing the preliminary

9825
06:19:23,939 --> 06:19:24,639
official statement the day

9826
06:19:24,639 --> 06:19:24,940
after budget adoption on JUNE

9827
06:19:24,940 --> 06:19:25,573
10th.

9828
06:19:25,573 --> 06:19:28,573
The Tran Sale is currently

9829
06:19:29,440 --> 06:19:29,710
scheduled for JUNE 16th and

9830
06:19:29,710 --> 06:19:30,345
the financing is expected to

9831
06:19:30,345 --> 06:19:33,345
close on JULY 1st, 2026 at

9832
06:19:34,983 --> 06:19:35,683
which time proceeds will be

9833
06:19:35,683 --> 06:19:36,351
delivered and used to support

9834
06:19:36,351 --> 06:19:36,985
fiscal year 27 general fund

9835
06:19:36,985 --> 06:19:39,385
cash flow needs including

9836
06:19:40,789 --> 06:19:41,356
the annual pension payments.

9837
06:19:41,356 --> 06:19:41,790
This concludes our

9838
06:19:41,790 --> 06:19:42,524
presentation.

9839
06:19:42,524 --> 06:19:43,191
We would be happy to answer any

9840
06:19:43,191 --> 06:19:45,591
questions from the Council.

9841
06:19:47,128 --> 06:19:47,628
Thank you.

9842
06:19:47,628 --> 06:19:48,363
>> All right.

9843
06:19:48,363 --> 06:19:51,363
Thank you for the presentation.

9844
06:19:52,234 --> 06:19:52,533
The fda doesn't have okay with

9845
06:19:52,533 --> 06:19:53,268
that.

9846
06:19:53,268 --> 06:19:53,735
>> Clark, please proceed with

9847
06:19:53,735 --> 06:19:54,104
public comment.

9848
06:19:54,104 --> 06:19:54,803
Thank you.

9849
06:19:54,803 --> 06:19:57,203
Council PRESIDENT Max Schmidt

9850
06:19:57,973 --> 06:19:58,740
If you can please come forward

9851
06:19:58,740 --> 06:20:01,740
after that will be allegedly

9852
06:20:03,178 --> 06:20:05,178
addressed.

9853
06:20:09,485 --> 06:20:10,118
Um, I just want to say thank

9854
06:20:10,118 --> 06:20:10,519
you for the opportunity to

9855
06:20:10,519 --> 06:20:12,519
speak today.

9856
06:20:14,556 --> 06:20:15,290
I wish that on my First

9857
06:20:15,290 --> 06:20:16,250
Amendment was more protected in

9858
06:20:16,250 --> 06:20:20,225
the United States than it is on

9859
06:20:21,960 --> 06:20:21,964
Also I just wanted to say that

9860
06:20:21,964 --> 06:20:25,564
item 631 is a big deal because

9861
06:20:26,869 --> 06:20:27,503
it's a deal of transparency.

9862
06:20:27,503 --> 06:20:28,200
Um, and we need more

9863
06:20:28,200 --> 06:20:30,200
transparency also.

9864
06:20:31,940 --> 06:20:32,541
The reason being more

9865
06:20:32,541 --> 06:20:33,241
transparency because it

9866
06:20:33,241 --> 06:20:36,241
definitely cost money to have

9867
06:20:36,277 --> 06:20:37,450
um people stopped me nonstop

9868
06:20:37,450 --> 06:20:37,713
and constantly use voices to

9869
06:20:37,713 --> 06:20:40,113
harass me nonstop throughout

9870
06:20:42,351 --> 06:20:43,285
the day.

9871
06:20:43,285 --> 06:20:43,985
And I just wanted to say when I

9872
06:20:43,985 --> 06:20:44,719
was held in the psych ward for

9873
06:20:44,719 --> 06:20:47,119
simply posting about Freemasons

9874
06:20:48,323 --> 06:20:49,240
reincarnate and the vast

9875
06:20:49,240 --> 06:20:49,624
majority of people on the West

9876
06:20:49,624 --> 06:20:51,624
Coast reincarnating and

9877
06:20:54,263 --> 06:20:54,797
possessed by the devil and also

9878
06:20:54,797 --> 06:20:55,431
not driving cars and

9879
06:20:55,431 --> 06:20:55,730
teleporting They called me

9880
06:20:55,730 --> 06:20:56,398
crazy.

9881
06:20:56,398 --> 06:20:56,686
They also tried to reeducate

9882
06:20:56,686 --> 06:20:58,686
me.

9883
06:21:00,369 --> 06:21:01,700
They said that I was forced to

9884
06:21:01,700 --> 06:21:01,737
say that covid was not a

9885
06:21:01,737 --> 06:21:04,137
bioweapon and that the 2020

9886
06:21:05,908 --> 06:21:06,609
election was not stolen and

9887
06:21:06,609 --> 06:21:07,343
that Freemasons can't teleport

9888
06:21:07,343 --> 06:21:08,100
and that that is a delusion and

9889
06:21:08,100 --> 06:21:11,610
that it was literally like a

9890
06:21:11,813 --> 06:21:12,314
communist reeducation camp in

9891
06:21:12,314 --> 06:21:13,150
the United States.

9892
06:21:13,150 --> 06:21:13,849
And I just wanted to say that

9893
06:21:13,849 --> 06:21:17,586
the city council as I sit here

9894
06:21:17,586 --> 06:21:18,286
and wait to speak, they're

9895
06:21:18,286 --> 06:21:18,921
going to try to probably call

9896
06:21:18,921 --> 06:21:22,425
me crazy for this but I'm

9897
06:21:22,425 --> 06:21:23,580
Freemasons do something really

9898
06:21:23,580 --> 06:21:23,758
use something called neuro

9899
06:21:23,758 --> 06:21:24,590
linguistic programing to make

9900
06:21:24,590 --> 06:21:24,759
your.

9901
06:21:24,759 --> 06:21:28,297
Have you ever been like super

9902
06:21:28,297 --> 06:21:29,650
Extremely scared Like maybe you

9903
06:21:29,650 --> 06:21:32,468
just got hit by a car or

9904
06:21:32,468 --> 06:21:33,169
something and you're on four

9905
06:21:33,169 --> 06:21:33,903
guys on your tingle like

9906
06:21:33,903 --> 06:21:36,903
you're so scared Like something

9907
06:21:38,273 --> 06:21:39,740
like super super scary happens

9908
06:21:39,740 --> 06:21:42,740
Don't make your tingle on

9909
06:21:43,512 --> 06:21:44,279
Tingle the city council as I

9910
06:21:44,279 --> 06:21:44,846
sit and wait to speak they're

9911
06:21:44,846 --> 06:21:46,846
using neuro linguistic

9912
06:21:49,418 --> 06:21:50,185
programing to threaten me and

9913
06:21:50,185 --> 06:21:50,853
make my tingle And then they

9914
06:21:50,853 --> 06:21:53,853
talk trash about it through

9915
06:21:54,190 --> 06:21:54,857
neuro linguistic programing in

9916
06:21:54,857 --> 06:21:55,424
the United States of America

9917
06:21:55,424 --> 06:21:57,359
Down with the occult.

9918
06:21:57,359 --> 06:21:59,359
>> I'm not crazy.

9919
06:22:08,337 --> 06:22:08,804
>> Allegedly ordering making

9920
06:22:08,804 --> 06:22:10,804
people's tingle.

9921
06:22:14,310 --> 06:22:14,676
It's unfortunate.

9922
06:22:14,676 --> 06:22:15,277
>> Yeah.

9923
06:22:15,277 --> 06:22:17,277
Talk about racketeering.

9924
06:22:19,448 --> 06:22:20,115
I mean it's like we can trust

9925
06:22:20,115 --> 06:22:20,816
that you guys are, you know,

9926
06:22:20,816 --> 06:22:24,416
going to go further into debt

9927
06:22:24,787 --> 06:22:25,521
and then get us out of debt and

9928
06:22:25,521 --> 06:22:26,222
we're never going to be in debt

9929
06:22:26,222 --> 06:22:26,889
again as long as we can borrow

9930
06:22:26,889 --> 06:22:29,725
this money and you guys are

9931
06:22:29,725 --> 06:22:30,358
going to make sure that you're

9932
06:22:30,358 --> 06:22:30,693
really spending our money

9933
06:22:30,693 --> 06:22:32,693
wisely.

9934
06:22:35,598 --> 06:22:36,465
>> It's crazy because it's like

9935
06:22:36,465 --> 06:22:37,166
I mean I bet a bunch of people

9936
06:22:37,166 --> 06:22:40,766
that you take their money from

9937
06:22:41,337 --> 06:22:42,710
which they had this kind of

9938
06:22:42,710 --> 06:22:44,471
problem $340 million like match

9939
06:22:47,110 --> 06:22:47,810
and it was that kind of money I

9940
06:22:47,810 --> 06:22:50,346
mean they only have 340 bucks

9941
06:22:50,346 --> 06:22:51,214
And if they do, you guys will

9942
06:22:51,214 --> 06:22:51,848
take 339 a bit and promise to,

9943
06:22:51,848 --> 06:22:52,182
you know, make their life

9944
06:22:52,182 --> 06:22:54,182
better.

9945
06:22:56,952 --> 06:22:57,553
But you know, just as long as

9946
06:22:57,553 --> 06:22:58,254
they go digging through

9947
06:22:58,254 --> 06:23:01,256
the trash for food, you know,

9948
06:23:01,256 --> 06:23:01,957
and it's like with what you

9949
06:23:01,957 --> 06:23:02,659
guys just did with the other

9950
06:23:02,659 --> 06:23:03,459
things like who's to say that

9951
06:23:03,459 --> 06:23:07,590
you're not going to continue to

9952
06:23:07,530 --> 06:23:08,164
engage in more fraud like that

9953
06:23:08,164 --> 06:23:08,865
and charges fees that you

9954
06:23:08,865 --> 06:23:12,101
shouldn't then have to go back

9955
06:23:12,101 --> 06:23:12,869
and retract it.

9956
06:23:12,869 --> 06:23:13,636
But yeah, it's just it's very

9957
06:23:13,636 --> 06:23:16,939
sad to see that It's like we're

9958
06:23:16,939 --> 06:23:17,707
always having to go borrow

9959
06:23:17,707 --> 06:23:18,440
money even though you guys have

9960
06:23:18,440 --> 06:23:19,142
like billions at your disposal.

9961
06:23:19,142 --> 06:23:22,142
I'm just wondering like again

9962
06:23:23,780 --> 06:23:23,713
how much money is enough that

9963
06:23:23,713 --> 06:23:26,713
you guys won't, you know,

9964
06:23:30,919 --> 06:23:31,688
engage in this kind of stuff?

9965
06:23:31,688 --> 06:23:32,355
Is there any amount you know

9966
06:23:32,355 --> 06:23:35,355
there's as long as whatever

9967
06:23:36,459 --> 06:23:37,293
people have right Do I don't

9968
06:23:37,293 --> 06:23:37,627
know if I have any money in my

9969
06:23:37,627 --> 06:23:38,295
pocket?

9970
06:23:38,295 --> 06:23:38,594
Probably not because nobody

9971
06:23:38,594 --> 06:23:40,594
does.

9972
06:23:43,660 --> 06:23:43,866
Yeah.

9973
06:23:43,866 --> 06:23:45,935
So the five minute time we're

9974
06:23:45,935 --> 06:23:46,703
going to those participating

9975
06:23:46,703 --> 06:23:49,703
remotely starting with Tony if

9976
06:23:52,174 --> 06:23:55,774
you can please unmute Tony you

9977
06:23:56,613 --> 06:23:57,213
seem to be having some

9978
06:23:57,213 --> 06:23:57,847
technical difficulties.

9979
06:23:57,847 --> 06:24:00,247
You're not admitting there

9980
06:24:06,456 --> 06:24:07,629
should be a pop up.

9981
06:24:07,629 --> 06:24:12,429
I will have to move on if you

9982
06:24:12,595 --> 06:24:16,195
can email Hector if you can

9983
06:24:17,700 --> 06:24:18,168
please unmute but thanks for

9984
06:24:18,168 --> 06:24:20,168
taking my call.

9985
06:24:22,539 --> 06:24:23,140
Hey could you guys offer Max

9986
06:24:23,140 --> 06:24:23,706
the job like sweeping up

9987
06:24:23,706 --> 06:24:24,374
the trolley station or

9988
06:24:24,374 --> 06:24:26,774
something or maybe sweeping

9989
06:24:28,444 --> 06:24:29,346
the boardwalk, maybe give Max a

9990
06:24:29,346 --> 06:24:32,946
job, kind of do something good

9991
06:24:32,949 --> 06:24:33,516
but yeah, I was watching to

9992
06:24:33,516 --> 06:24:35,916
the pension board and

9993
06:24:37,687 --> 06:24:38,388
the pension board last month

9994
06:24:38,388 --> 06:24:39,155
bragging their investments was

9995
06:24:39,155 --> 06:24:42,755
enough revenue to pay all their

9996
06:24:43,694 --> 06:24:44,461
obligations for the last year.

9997
06:24:44,461 --> 06:24:48,610
So they're doing really good on

9998
06:24:48,598 --> 06:24:49,232
their investing and have made

9999
06:24:49,232 --> 06:24:49,633
enough money to pay their

10000
06:24:49,633 --> 06:24:50,467
obligations.

10001
06:24:50,467 --> 06:24:54,171
So how about if we take a

10002
06:24:54,171 --> 06:24:56,571
vacation from the pension

10003
06:24:57,574 --> 06:25:00,574
payment for like 6 or 6 months

10004
06:25:02,378 --> 06:25:03,790
vacation for making the payment

10005
06:25:03,790 --> 06:25:03,780
because they've got the money

10006
06:25:03,780 --> 06:25:04,347
in the trust fund and they're

10007
06:25:04,347 --> 06:25:06,747
making money to pay

10008
06:25:07,951 --> 06:25:08,619
the obligations So we could

10009
06:25:08,619 --> 06:25:09,519
take that $700 million that

10010
06:25:09,519 --> 06:25:13,230
we're not going to have to pay

10011
06:25:13,230 --> 06:25:13,690
for the next six months and

10012
06:25:13,690 --> 06:25:17,290
then fill in all the blanks,

10013
06:25:17,760 --> 06:25:18,462
all sorts of places we could

10014
06:25:18,462 --> 06:25:18,761
spend it and they'd still be

10015
06:25:18,761 --> 06:25:20,761
okay.

10016
06:25:22,900 --> 06:25:23,701
They'd have less money in

10017
06:25:23,701 --> 06:25:24,400
the trust fund but they got a

10018
06:25:24,400 --> 06:25:25,102
lot of money in the trust fund

10019
06:25:25,102 --> 06:25:27,502
already and they're investing

10020
06:25:27,771 --> 06:25:28,438
it and they're paying their

10021
06:25:28,438 --> 06:25:28,939
obligations which is that's

10022
06:25:28,939 --> 06:25:30,939
the basic problem.

10023
06:25:33,110 --> 06:25:33,510
The city is the pension

10024
06:25:33,510 --> 06:25:33,977
obligation.

10025
06:25:33,977 --> 06:25:34,778
It's killing us.

10026
06:25:34,778 --> 06:25:38,378
It's going to be killing us

10027
06:25:38,549 --> 06:25:38,849
every year for the next 30

10028
06:25:38,849 --> 06:25:39,550
years.

10029
06:25:39,550 --> 06:25:39,850
I don't think it's ever going

10030
06:25:39,850 --> 06:25:41,850
away.

10031
06:25:43,687 --> 06:25:44,320
People are living longer.

10032
06:25:44,320 --> 06:25:44,921
The pensions are going up.

10033
06:25:44,921 --> 06:25:46,921
Pensions are increasing.

10034
06:25:48,458 --> 06:25:49,159
People living longer.

10035
06:25:49,159 --> 06:25:49,592
>> That's the problem we have

10036
06:25:49,592 --> 06:25:50,294
with the city.

10037
06:25:50,294 --> 06:25:53,290
Man Right there your time

10038
06:25:53,290 --> 06:25:56,290
concluded Blair if you can

10039
06:25:58,235 --> 06:25:58,935
please on mute.

10040
06:25:58,935 --> 06:26:01,935
Blair Beekman Thanks for this

10041
06:26:02,873 --> 06:26:03,640
item To offer some of the words

10042
06:26:03,640 --> 06:26:04,341
of Tony from earlier today He

10043
06:26:04,341 --> 06:26:04,774
always has really interesting

10044
06:26:04,774 --> 06:26:06,774
things to say.

10045
06:26:08,450 --> 06:26:09,120
He thanked Councilperson

10046
06:26:09,120 --> 06:26:12,612
Campbell and her position on on

10047
06:26:14,752 --> 06:26:17,752
on taxing homes and revenue

10048
06:26:18,455 --> 06:26:19,190
raises to find revenue sources

10049
06:26:19,190 --> 06:26:19,789
that Councilperson Campbell has

10050
06:26:19,789 --> 06:26:22,789
a pretty wise opinion on

10051
06:26:23,794 --> 06:26:24,461
the matter and is certainly in

10052
06:26:24,461 --> 06:26:27,461
how to have the debate.

10053
06:26:28,265 --> 06:26:29,132
Councilperson Campbell has on

10054
06:26:29,132 --> 06:26:32,732
the future of how to address

10055
06:26:33,403 --> 06:26:34,171
revenue in our future And she

10056
06:26:34,171 --> 06:26:38,371
has a good argument I think and

10057
06:26:38,575 --> 06:26:38,943
I hope I can be respected and I

10058
06:26:38,943 --> 06:26:40,943
hope that.

10059
06:26:43,514 --> 06:26:44,280
I wanted to quickly mention

10060
06:26:44,280 --> 06:26:44,881
from my previous item that was

10061
06:26:44,881 --> 06:26:45,517
cut off today that with

10062
06:26:45,517 --> 06:26:47,917
the fire department issues

10063
06:26:49,754 --> 06:26:50,420
people are leaving in San Diego

10064
06:26:50,420 --> 06:26:53,420
in massive numbers once they

10065
06:26:54,392 --> 06:26:55,920
get the training So at least

10066
06:26:55,920 --> 06:26:55,826
we're doing the training right

10067
06:26:55,826 --> 06:26:58,896
that people want to be here for

10068
06:26:58,896 --> 06:26:59,530
some reason You've been working

10069
06:26:59,530 --> 06:27:00,130
really good programs with

10070
06:27:00,130 --> 06:27:00,731
the fire department and

10071
06:27:00,731 --> 06:27:03,131
community the past year

10072
06:27:05,235 --> 06:27:05,903
developing good prevention

10073
06:27:05,903 --> 06:27:06,403
practices and that's a good

10074
06:27:06,403 --> 06:27:08,403
learning process.

10075
06:27:10,274 --> 06:27:10,675
Can that be somehow applied to

10076
06:27:10,675 --> 06:27:11,341
your future?

10077
06:27:11,341 --> 06:27:12,760
Questions of how to address

10078
06:27:12,760 --> 06:27:15,760
your fire department issues and

10079
06:27:15,513 --> 06:27:16,314
retention.

10080
06:27:16,314 --> 06:27:17,800
I thought I would mention that

10081
06:27:17,800 --> 06:27:20,800
is possibly tax and revenue

10082
06:27:20,218 --> 06:27:20,585
ideas and yeah so good luck

10083
06:27:20,585 --> 06:27:22,585
with that.

10084
06:27:25,220 --> 06:27:25,823
All sides can really question

10085
06:27:25,823 --> 06:27:26,224
how do we address revenue for

10086
06:27:26,224 --> 06:27:26,824
the future?

10087
06:27:26,824 --> 06:27:27,191
>> San Diego Thank you.

10088
06:27:27,191 --> 06:27:29,191
Thank you.

10089
06:27:29,426 --> 06:27:33,260
Next is Leonard If you can

10090
06:27:34,650 --> 06:27:36,650
please unmute.

10091
06:27:38,870 --> 06:27:42,470
>> Hi yeah I'm also for taxing

10092
06:27:43,307 --> 06:27:44,750
the on occupied office space

10093
06:27:44,750 --> 06:27:47,750
should be assessed a tax

10094
06:27:48,979 --> 06:27:52,579
the same way to the proposition

10095
06:27:53,885 --> 06:27:57,485
that was just voted down on

10096
06:27:58,823 --> 06:27:59,523
charging the unoccupied homes

10097
06:27:59,523 --> 06:28:03,123
should go the same for office

10098
06:28:03,360 --> 06:28:04,950
spaces that are unoccupied.

10099
06:28:04,950 --> 06:28:07,950
There's a lot of businesses

10100
06:28:07,999 --> 06:28:08,766
that we should be promoting San

10101
06:28:08,766 --> 06:28:11,766
Diego to come bring businesses

10102
06:28:12,937 --> 06:28:16,537
to fill those office spaces And

10103
06:28:17,208 --> 06:28:18,750
I think that you'll be able to

10104
06:28:18,750 --> 06:28:22,147
do that And I know that many

10105
06:28:22,147 --> 06:28:22,780
industries have left San Diego

10106
06:28:22,780 --> 06:28:23,448
fishing, manufacturing and

10107
06:28:23,448 --> 06:28:26,448
there's no more people to

10108
06:28:27,218 --> 06:28:30,218
support the sales tax anymore.

10109
06:28:31,556 --> 06:28:32,223
So now you're depending on all

10110
06:28:32,223 --> 06:28:35,223
of us constituents as piggy

10111
06:28:37,610 --> 06:28:37,829
banks and you need to be better

10112
06:28:37,829 --> 06:28:41,429
stewards of our of our money

10113
06:28:41,599 --> 06:28:45,799
And I think that it would be

10114
06:28:45,870 --> 06:28:46,738
better spent toward the Park

10115
06:28:46,738 --> 06:28:50,338
and rec and any other facility

10116
06:28:51,276 --> 06:28:54,276
or infrastructure that you know

10117
06:28:55,914 --> 06:28:56,247
grass the buildings that need

10118
06:28:56,247 --> 06:28:58,247
repair.

10119
06:29:00,752 --> 06:29:01,385
But thank you for your time.

10120
06:29:01,385 --> 06:29:01,753
>> Thank you very much.

10121
06:29:01,753 --> 06:29:02,387
Thank you.

10122
06:29:02,387 --> 06:29:02,954
That does conclude public

10123
06:29:02,954 --> 06:29:04,889
comment on this item.

10124
06:29:04,889 --> 06:29:05,189
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All

10125
06:29:05,189 --> 06:29:05,590
right.

10126
06:29:05,590 --> 06:29:06,257
Thank you.

10127
06:29:06,257 --> 06:29:06,924
City clerk will now take

10128
06:29:06,924 --> 06:29:08,924
councilmember questions and

10129
06:29:09,794 --> 06:29:10,594
comments and entertain a motion

10130
06:29:10,594 --> 06:29:11,362
and I don't see anybody willing

10131
06:29:11,362 --> 06:29:11,763
to kick this off so I'll kick

10132
06:29:11,763 --> 06:29:13,763
it off.

10133
06:29:15,366 --> 06:29:16,670
Thank you for the presentation.

10134
06:29:16,670 --> 06:29:16,800
Thank you for reintroducing an

10135
06:29:16,800 --> 06:29:20,400
idea that the city has used

10136
06:29:20,505 --> 06:29:21,239
successfully is allowed under

10137
06:29:21,239 --> 06:29:24,376
the state and the city charter.

10138
06:29:24,376 --> 06:29:24,976
So I'll move the recommendation

10139
06:29:24,976 --> 06:29:25,677
to kick things off.

10140
06:29:25,677 --> 06:29:26,511
Thank you for the good work.

10141
06:29:26,511 --> 06:29:29,511
We'll go next to Council

10142
06:29:30,681 --> 06:29:31,449
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Thank

10143
06:29:31,449 --> 06:29:33,849
House PRESIDENT I'll second

10144
06:29:34,685 --> 06:29:35,286
the motion the motion by myself

10145
06:29:35,286 --> 06:29:36,540
on the second by Council

10146
06:29:36,540 --> 06:29:39,391
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee to move

10147
06:29:39,391 --> 06:29:40,920
the recommendation we'll go

10148
06:29:40,920 --> 06:29:40,459
next to Council Member Campion

10149
06:29:40,459 --> 06:29:41,125
Thank you.

10150
06:29:41,125 --> 06:29:43,525
Council PRESIDENT Just just

10151
06:29:43,528 --> 06:29:46,528
briefly this type of funding

10152
06:29:48,990 --> 06:29:48,700
mechanism is a properly thought

10153
06:29:48,700 --> 06:29:51,700
of of having an interest

10154
06:29:52,403 --> 06:29:53,305
percentage or is it more of a a

10155
06:29:53,305 --> 06:29:56,905
premium to have access to this

10156
06:29:57,743 --> 06:29:58,443
line of funding Because when I

10157
06:29:58,443 --> 06:30:01,443
see the original issue premium

10158
06:30:01,947 --> 06:30:02,614
but then I see estimated

10159
06:30:02,614 --> 06:30:03,415
interest costs it's not

10160
06:30:03,415 --> 06:30:07,385
entirely clear to me is it If

10161
06:30:07,385 --> 06:30:08,530
we are we going to take out

10162
06:30:08,530 --> 06:30:08,719
essentially $332 million for

10163
06:30:08,719 --> 06:30:11,719
cashflow purposes or are we

10164
06:30:12,224 --> 06:30:12,957
going to I see the schedule

10165
06:30:12,957 --> 06:30:13,825
that shows on a quarterly basis

10166
06:30:13,825 --> 06:30:17,228
how we plan to roll this out

10167
06:30:17,228 --> 06:30:17,829
But it's not entirely clear to

10168
06:30:17,829 --> 06:30:18,497
me what the right way of

10169
06:30:18,497 --> 06:30:20,897
describing this to my

10170
06:30:22,401 --> 06:30:23,101
constituents is.

10171
06:30:23,101 --> 06:30:23,735
Is it strictly a percentage

10172
06:30:23,735 --> 06:30:24,690
figure or is it a premium

10173
06:30:24,690 --> 06:30:26,690
amount?

10174
06:30:26,972 --> 06:30:27,673
It is And there is a fixed

10175
06:30:27,673 --> 06:30:30,730
interest rate component there.

10176
06:30:31,510 --> 06:30:32,277
There are just short term notes

10177
06:30:32,277 --> 06:30:33,145
that we do within 12 months

10178
06:30:33,145 --> 06:30:36,181
they will when you see that

10179
06:30:36,181 --> 06:30:36,781
original original issue

10180
06:30:36,781 --> 06:30:38,781
premium, that's because

10181
06:30:40,752 --> 06:30:41,520
interest rate on the notes is

10182
06:30:41,520 --> 06:30:44,520
higher than the effective rate

10183
06:30:45,690 --> 06:30:46,391
so that the dollar amount that

10184
06:30:46,391 --> 06:30:47,920
the investors are paying when

10185
06:30:47,920 --> 06:30:50,495
the notes are sold is actually

10186
06:30:50,495 --> 06:30:51,230
higher than the premium Yet

10187
06:30:51,230 --> 06:30:54,230
it's the same pricing mechanism

10188
06:30:55,134 --> 06:30:55,800
as our lease revenue bonds as

10189
06:30:55,800 --> 06:30:56,601
many typical municipal bonds

10190
06:30:56,601 --> 06:31:00,201
are issued under and it's just

10191
06:31:00,572 --> 06:31:01,273
a term that we use original

10192
06:31:01,273 --> 06:31:03,673
show premium to describe

10193
06:31:04,743 --> 06:31:05,210
the price.

10194
06:31:05,210 --> 06:31:05,978
All right.

10195
06:31:05,978 --> 06:31:06,612
I'll put into that context you

10196
06:31:06,612 --> 06:31:08,847
pointed out with the least

10197
06:31:08,847 --> 06:31:09,515
revenue bonds then and we

10198
06:31:09,515 --> 06:31:10,315
anticipate that 340 million

10199
06:31:10,315 --> 06:31:13,915
sounds like a lot of cash

10200
06:31:14,853 --> 06:31:17,853
That's how was that number

10201
06:31:18,824 --> 06:31:19,592
arrived at very specifically

10202
06:31:19,592 --> 06:31:21,992
that that premium generates

10203
06:31:23,280 --> 06:31:23,695
roughly the 339 million of

10204
06:31:23,695 --> 06:31:26,695
proceeds that will be will

10205
06:31:28,600 --> 06:31:29,405
receive from the sale 332 is

10206
06:31:29,405 --> 06:31:33,272
the is the palm is the so

10207
06:31:33,272 --> 06:31:36,272
the principal amount that'll be

10208
06:31:36,575 --> 06:31:36,908
due that'll come due in 12

10209
06:31:36,908 --> 06:31:37,276
months.

10210
06:31:37,276 --> 06:31:38,430
I see.

10211
06:31:38,430 --> 06:31:41,643
Okay And we're paying it off

10212
06:31:41,647 --> 06:31:41,981
over time Not all at once at

10213
06:31:41,981 --> 06:31:42,314
the end.

10214
06:31:42,314 --> 06:31:42,948
Correct.

10215
06:31:42,948 --> 06:31:43,548
We'll be setting aside in

10216
06:31:43,548 --> 06:31:45,948
the repayment fund once

10217
06:31:47,190 --> 06:31:47,720
the repayment fund reaches 100%

10218
06:31:47,720 --> 06:31:48,387
then we repay on JUNE 30th

10219
06:31:48,387 --> 06:31:51,387
setting aside Very good And

10220
06:31:51,523 --> 06:31:52,224
will that be something we're

10221
06:31:52,224 --> 06:31:52,891
able to monitor on a quarterly

10222
06:31:52,891 --> 06:31:53,225
basis or at those set aside

10223
06:31:53,225 --> 06:31:55,225
periods?

10224
06:31:56,395 --> 06:31:56,695
Absolutely.

10225
06:31:56,695 --> 06:31:57,950
Okay.

10226
06:31:57,950 --> 06:31:57,463
All right.

10227
06:31:57,463 --> 06:31:58,164
Thank you.

10228
06:31:58,164 --> 06:31:58,464
I feel more comfortable with

10229
06:31:58,464 --> 06:31:58,831
that.

10230
06:31:58,831 --> 06:31:59,330
Thank you.

10231
06:31:59,330 --> 06:31:59,699
Council PRESIDENT.

10232
06:31:59,699 --> 06:32:00,499
All right.

10233
06:32:00,499 --> 06:32:00,833
Thank you, Councilmember Campo

10234
06:32:00,833 --> 06:32:01,400
.

10235
06:32:01,400 --> 06:32:01,801
Not seeing anybody on

10236
06:32:01,801 --> 06:32:02,400
the lights.

10237
06:32:02,400 --> 06:32:05,400
Let me ask one question.

10238
06:32:06,720 --> 06:32:06,472
The investors get this for a

10239
06:32:06,472 --> 06:32:07,138
whole year.

10240
06:32:07,138 --> 06:32:10,138
So even though your schedule

10241
06:32:10,842 --> 06:32:11,610
showed we would actually have

10242
06:32:11,610 --> 06:32:12,478
set aside by MAY 1st we'll have

10243
06:32:12,478 --> 06:32:16,649
those kind of city to the bank

10244
06:32:16,649 --> 06:32:17,383
for all of MAY and all JUNE

10245
06:32:17,383 --> 06:32:18,117
That's accumulating interest to

10246
06:32:18,117 --> 06:32:20,653
our benefit And that's correct.

10247
06:32:20,653 --> 06:32:21,153
That's right.

10248
06:32:21,153 --> 06:32:21,520
>> Okay.

10249
06:32:21,520 --> 06:32:22,255
All right.

10250
06:32:22,255 --> 06:32:25,224
With that not seeing anybody

10251
06:32:25,224 --> 06:32:25,958
else on the lights, we have a

10252
06:32:25,958 --> 06:32:26,625
motion by myself on the second

10253
06:32:26,625 --> 06:32:27,326
by council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

10254
06:32:27,326 --> 06:32:30,326
Lee to move the recommendation

10255
06:32:30,730 --> 06:32:31,430
clerk please call the roll I'm

10256
06:32:31,430 --> 06:32:34,430
sorry The voting system Please

10257
06:32:39,972 --> 06:32:40,673
cast your vote That passes

10258
06:32:40,673 --> 06:32:41,340
seven two with Council member

10259
06:32:41,340 --> 06:32:43,740
Moreno and Councilmember Von

10260
06:32:44,677 --> 06:32:45,344
Wilpert voting no Thank you,

10261
06:32:45,344 --> 06:32:46,790
Council PRESIDENT All right.

10262
06:32:46,790 --> 06:32:46,745
Thank you for that Again, thank

10263
06:32:46,745 --> 06:32:49,649
you to staff for the work to

10264
06:32:49,649 --> 06:32:50,820
bring this forward.

10265
06:32:50,820 --> 06:32:52,820
All right.

10266
06:32:53,352 --> 06:32:53,619
Clerk Please introduce item

10267
06:32:53,619 --> 06:32:54,420
630.

10268
06:32:54,420 --> 06:32:56,622
Item 630 is the authorization

10269
06:32:56,622 --> 06:32:59,622
of the First Amendment to

10270
06:33:01,794 --> 06:33:02,495
contract h242636 to dash m with

10271
06:33:02,495 --> 06:33:04,697
Brown and Caldwell for design

10272
06:33:04,697 --> 06:33:05,298
and construction services for

10273
06:33:05,298 --> 06:33:06,320
the two Improvements and

10274
06:33:06,320 --> 06:33:06,632
Modernization project six funds

10275
06:33:06,632 --> 06:33:09,320
are required pursuant to

10276
06:33:10,703 --> 06:33:11,571
Charter Section 99.

10277
06:33:11,571 --> 06:33:12,271
If you'd like to speak on this

10278
06:33:12,271 --> 06:33:12,972
item now's the time to submit

10279
06:33:12,972 --> 06:33:14,974
your speaker slip to the front

10280
06:33:14,974 --> 06:33:15,641
of the room in the clear box.

10281
06:33:15,641 --> 06:33:16,275
If you are participating

10282
06:33:16,275 --> 06:33:18,645
remotely please be sure to

10283
06:33:18,645 --> 06:33:19,312
raise your hand by pressing

10284
06:33:19,312 --> 06:33:19,913
Star nine or the raise your

10285
06:33:19,913 --> 06:33:22,849
hand icon at this time.

10286
06:33:22,849 --> 06:33:23,349
Thank you Council PRESIDENT.

10287
06:33:23,349 --> 06:33:23,716
All right.

10288
06:33:23,716 --> 06:33:24,483
Thank you.

10289
06:33:24,483 --> 06:33:27,886
And just by way of brief

10290
06:33:27,886 --> 06:33:28,587
explanation, this is an item

10291
06:33:28,587 --> 06:33:29,321
that normally would have gone

10292
06:33:29,321 --> 06:33:32,910
to 80 It wasn't able to this

10293
06:33:32,910 --> 06:33:32,792
month And there's some hard

10294
06:33:32,792 --> 06:33:33,660
deadlines that we're trying to

10295
06:33:33,660 --> 06:33:36,962
meet and that's why it is being

10296
06:33:36,962 --> 06:33:37,864
direct docketed.

10297
06:33:37,864 --> 06:33:38,531
So staff I see you've settled

10298
06:33:38,531 --> 06:33:39,264
in Introduce yourselves for

10299
06:33:39,264 --> 06:33:42,168
the record and how much time do

10300
06:33:42,168 --> 06:33:42,768
you need for the presentation?

10301
06:33:42,768 --> 06:33:44,768
Good afternoon Honorable

10302
06:33:47,730 --> 06:33:47,607
Council PRESIDENT And members

10303
06:33:47,607 --> 06:33:48,240
of the City Council.

10304
06:33:48,240 --> 06:33:49,120
My name is Shadi Sammy.

10305
06:33:49,120 --> 06:33:51,577
I'm the Deputy Director for

10306
06:33:51,577 --> 06:33:52,249
Utilities Project Delivery

10307
06:33:52,249 --> 06:33:54,649
Division of the Engineering

10308
06:33:56,315 --> 06:33:57,183
Capital Projects Department.

10309
06:33:57,183 --> 06:33:57,917
With me here today is Doc

10310
06:33:57,917 --> 06:34:00,317
Campbell, assistant director of

10311
06:34:01,655 --> 06:34:02,288
the Public Utilities Department

10312
06:34:02,288 --> 06:34:02,822
and Eric Rubalcaba, senior

10313
06:34:02,822 --> 06:34:04,822
civil engineer with

10314
06:34:06,459 --> 06:34:07,193
the engineering capital

10315
06:34:07,193 --> 06:34:07,927
Projects Department who will be

10316
06:34:07,927 --> 06:34:10,196
making this presentation today.

10317
06:34:10,196 --> 06:34:10,530
And we need approximately ten

10318
06:34:10,530 --> 06:34:10,897
minutes.

10319
06:34:10,897 --> 06:34:11,398
All right.

10320
06:34:11,398 --> 06:34:13,398
When you're ready.

10321
06:34:14,566 --> 06:34:16,566
Thank you.

10322
06:34:20,239 --> 06:34:21,600
Oh, thank you, Shari.

10323
06:34:21,600 --> 06:34:21,607
So I requested action is an

10324
06:34:21,607 --> 06:34:22,341
ordinance to approve an

10325
06:34:22,341 --> 06:34:24,644
amendment to the Brian Caldwell

10326
06:34:24,644 --> 06:34:25,312
design contract for the Pump

10327
06:34:25,312 --> 06:34:28,312
Station two project for an

10328
06:34:28,381 --> 06:34:29,116
amount not to exceed $2.294

10329
06:34:29,116 --> 06:34:32,116
million and extend the contract

10330
06:34:32,652 --> 06:34:33,286
from 5 to 8 years through 2032

10331
06:34:33,286 --> 06:34:35,286
for continued engineering

10332
06:34:37,657 --> 06:34:38,358
support.

10333
06:34:38,358 --> 06:34:41,294
Position two is located on

10334
06:34:41,294 --> 06:34:41,895
Harvard Drive within County

10335
06:34:41,895 --> 06:34:42,595
District two adjacent to

10336
06:34:42,595 --> 06:34:45,865
Terminal two of the San Diego

10337
06:34:45,865 --> 06:34:46,499
Airport.

10338
06:34:46,499 --> 06:34:47,166
The service area is almost

10339
06:34:47,166 --> 06:34:50,166
equivalent to the San Diego

10340
06:34:50,904 --> 06:34:51,471
County Pump Station two is

10341
06:34:51,471 --> 06:34:52,710
the terminal point for

10342
06:34:52,710 --> 06:34:54,471
the North metro system.

10343
06:34:55,775 --> 06:34:56,476
Everything north of Highway

10344
06:34:56,476 --> 06:34:57,770
eight and also the south metro

10345
06:34:57,770 --> 06:35:00,770
system which is south of

10346
06:35:00,346 --> 06:35:01,148
Highway o flows from pump

10347
06:35:01,148 --> 06:35:01,881
station to end up at the Point

10348
06:35:01,881 --> 06:35:04,281
Loma Wastewater Treatment plant

10349
06:35:05,520 --> 06:35:05,752
for treatment and disposal with

10350
06:35:05,752 --> 06:35:08,752
an average flow rate of 130

10351
06:35:09,689 --> 06:35:10,390
million gallons per day.

10352
06:35:10,390 --> 06:35:11,240
>> Pump Station two is

10353
06:35:11,240 --> 06:35:13,424
the largest, most critical

10354
06:35:15,495 --> 06:35:16,196
wastewater pump station in our

10355
06:35:16,196 --> 06:35:16,463
system and operates 24 hours a

10356
06:35:16,463 --> 06:35:18,463
day.

10357
06:35:19,800 --> 06:35:20,434
It's been in service in 1963

10358
06:35:20,434 --> 06:35:22,834
making the pump station 63

10359
06:35:23,803 --> 06:35:24,538
years old and has a vertical

10360
06:35:24,538 --> 06:35:28,138
shot Pumps which is pictured on

10361
06:35:28,542 --> 06:35:29,309
the right hand side.

10362
06:35:29,309 --> 06:35:32,309
Next two slides will provide

10363
06:35:34,414 --> 06:35:34,948
context on the importance of

10364
06:35:34,948 --> 06:35:35,481
the pump station and

10365
06:35:35,481 --> 06:35:37,481
the project itself.

10366
06:35:38,251 --> 06:35:38,952
In APRIL 2020 there was a heavy

10367
06:35:38,952 --> 06:35:42,222
rain event that resulted in a

10368
06:35:42,222 --> 06:35:42,956
spill into the Sweetwater River

10369
06:35:42,956 --> 06:35:43,624
due to system blockages and

10370
06:35:43,624 --> 06:35:46,624
pumps being out of service.

10371
06:35:47,940 --> 06:35:47,694
This resulted in a cease and

10372
06:35:47,694 --> 06:35:48,395
desist order in 2023 to

10373
06:35:48,395 --> 06:35:50,795
complete upgrades to pump

10374
06:35:51,498 --> 06:35:54,498
Station one By DECEMBER of 2028

10375
06:35:55,201 --> 06:35:56,690
the city awarded a design build

10376
06:35:56,690 --> 06:35:58,469
contract in 2024 to address

10377
06:36:00,874 --> 06:36:04,474
this issue In JANUARY of 2023 a

10378
06:36:05,312 --> 06:36:05,980
second rain event resulted in a

10379
06:36:05,980 --> 06:36:06,312
spill event in the northern

10380
06:36:06,312 --> 06:36:06,947
region.

10381
06:36:06,947 --> 06:36:09,347
Primary causes were heavy

10382
06:36:10,170 --> 06:36:10,683
inflows and pumps being out of

10383
06:36:10,683 --> 06:36:11,352
service and pump station to

10384
06:36:11,352 --> 06:36:14,352
the city and regulators are

10385
06:36:14,722 --> 06:36:15,589
negotiating a path forward.

10386
06:36:15,589 --> 06:36:16,356
But to date there is no cease

10387
06:36:16,356 --> 06:36:19,660
and desist order for a pump

10388
06:36:19,660 --> 06:36:20,260
station to.

10389
06:36:20,260 --> 06:36:21,280
The city decided to move

10390
06:36:21,280 --> 06:36:23,564
forward with a design contract

10391
06:36:23,564 --> 06:36:26,564
in 2023 to complete the pump

10392
06:36:26,834 --> 06:36:29,834
station to upgrade by DECEMBER

10393
06:36:32,573 --> 06:36:33,107
of 2029 to develop a full scope

10394
06:36:33,107 --> 06:36:33,774
for design services.

10395
06:36:33,774 --> 06:36:37,144
We required a series of shut

10396
06:36:37,144 --> 06:36:37,745
downs to conduct conditioning

10397
06:36:37,745 --> 06:36:38,445
assessments primarily to

10398
06:36:38,445 --> 06:36:41,445
the wells in flowing channels

10399
06:36:41,915 --> 06:36:42,550
and interior of pipes.

10400
06:36:42,550 --> 06:36:43,184
Unfortunately due to pumps

10401
06:36:43,184 --> 06:36:46,200
being out of service and

10402
06:36:46,200 --> 06:36:46,720
the pump station needing to

10403
06:36:46,720 --> 06:36:47,321
operate 24 seven we could not

10404
06:36:47,321 --> 06:36:50,570
take the risk of taking

10405
06:36:50,570 --> 06:36:50,791
additional additional

10406
06:36:50,791 --> 06:36:51,458
components off line and further

10407
06:36:51,458 --> 06:36:53,858
reduce our pumping capacity.

10408
06:36:55,195 --> 06:36:55,863
We decided to move forward with

10409
06:36:55,863 --> 06:36:56,563
a reduced scope contract and

10410
06:36:56,563 --> 06:36:58,933
negotiate an amendment Once we

10411
06:36:58,933 --> 06:37:01,933
had the opportunity to conduct

10412
06:37:04,138 --> 06:37:04,804
these required assessments.

10413
06:37:04,804 --> 06:37:07,204
>> The original contract was

10414
06:37:08,309 --> 06:37:08,976
awarded in JUNE of 2024 and

10415
06:37:08,976 --> 06:37:09,543
included the design services

10416
06:37:09,543 --> 06:37:10,177
for the replacement of

10417
06:37:10,177 --> 06:37:12,577
the suction discharge and

10418
06:37:13,470 --> 06:37:13,914
conveyance replace pumps,

10419
06:37:13,914 --> 06:37:16,914
motors starters and some piping

10420
06:37:17,785 --> 06:37:18,419
modifications and

10421
06:37:18,419 --> 06:37:19,860
instrumentation and vac

10422
06:37:19,860 --> 06:37:19,420
upgrades and minor building

10423
06:37:19,420 --> 06:37:21,420
repairs.

10424
06:37:22,890 --> 06:37:23,591
The original project also

10425
06:37:23,591 --> 06:37:24,258
anticipated a three and a half

10426
06:37:24,258 --> 06:37:26,258
year construction schedule.

10427
06:37:27,694 --> 06:37:28,395
9 to 12 months for equipment

10428
06:37:28,395 --> 06:37:31,395
procurement and to be replaced

10429
06:37:32,300 --> 06:37:33,000
in the dry season with one pump

10430
06:37:33,000 --> 06:37:36,000
being replaced in the wet

10431
06:37:37,237 --> 06:37:37,939
season.

10432
06:37:37,939 --> 06:37:38,706
Midway through design we were

10433
06:37:38,706 --> 06:37:41,642
able to conduct a series of

10434
06:37:41,642 --> 06:37:42,310
shutdowns that allowed

10435
06:37:42,310 --> 06:37:43,100
assessments of the wet wells

10436
06:37:43,100 --> 06:37:43,377
improving channels and suction

10437
06:37:43,377 --> 06:37:45,377
pipelines.

10438
06:37:46,514 --> 06:37:47,181
We also conducted site

10439
06:37:47,181 --> 06:37:47,482
investigations with the oem

10440
06:37:47,482 --> 06:37:49,482
staff.

10441
06:37:50,818 --> 06:37:51,119
Both identified new scope items

10442
06:37:51,119 --> 06:37:51,819
.

10443
06:37:51,819 --> 06:37:52,486
The city also determined that

10444
06:37:52,486 --> 06:37:53,154
replacement of pumps during

10445
06:37:53,154 --> 06:37:55,756
weather would not be allowed

10446
06:37:55,756 --> 06:37:56,490
since it reduces pumping

10447
06:37:56,490 --> 06:37:59,490
capacity and increases the risk

10448
06:38:00,661 --> 06:38:01,429
of a spill.

10449
06:38:01,429 --> 06:38:02,131
Pumps would only be replaced in

10450
06:38:02,131 --> 06:38:05,650
the dry season two pumps per

10451
06:38:05,650 --> 06:38:05,766
year increasing

10452
06:38:05,766 --> 06:38:08,166
the construction schedule from

10453
06:38:10,104 --> 06:38:10,438
three and a half to five years

10454
06:38:10,438 --> 06:38:11,400
.

10455
06:38:11,400 --> 06:38:13,400
The amendment includes

10456
06:38:13,775 --> 06:38:14,408
construction support for

10457
06:38:14,408 --> 06:38:15,143
the full five years versus

10458
06:38:15,143 --> 06:38:15,543
the three and a half previously

10459
06:38:15,543 --> 06:38:17,543
anticipated.

10460
06:38:19,246 --> 06:38:19,947
A physical model This was based

10461
06:38:19,947 --> 06:38:20,414
on lessons learned from pumps

10462
06:38:20,414 --> 06:38:21,115
in one project.

10463
06:38:21,115 --> 06:38:23,818
Structural retrofit of the wet

10464
06:38:23,818 --> 06:38:24,519
was and influential ornl's

10465
06:38:24,519 --> 06:38:26,919
sluice gate modifications and

10466
06:38:28,690 --> 06:38:29,291
you stop lake system to ensure

10467
06:38:29,291 --> 06:38:29,958
sewer type shutdowns an

10468
06:38:29,958 --> 06:38:31,958
additional service allowance

10469
06:38:33,361 --> 06:38:33,962
for unforeseen items and other

10470
06:38:33,962 --> 06:38:34,528
minor position upgrades

10471
06:38:34,528 --> 06:38:36,528
identified during site

10472
06:38:37,699 --> 06:38:39,699
investigations.

10473
06:38:42,670 --> 06:38:43,338
>> >> The original consultant

10474
06:38:43,338 --> 06:38:45,338
contract was $2.94 million.

10475
06:38:46,307 --> 06:38:46,641
This amendment adds $2.294

10476
06:38:46,641 --> 06:38:47,342
million.

10477
06:38:47,342 --> 06:38:49,742
This amendment was anticipated

10478
06:38:51,745 --> 06:38:52,246
and fully funded via the fiscal

10479
06:38:52,246 --> 06:38:54,246
year 26 allotment.

10480
06:38:55,160 --> 06:38:55,917
The estimated total project

10481
06:38:55,917 --> 06:38:58,317
cost is 135 million with

10482
06:38:58,553 --> 06:38:59,254
construction costing 105

10483
06:38:59,254 --> 06:39:02,190
million which will be awarded

10484
06:39:02,190 --> 06:39:04,190
in fiscal year 27.

10485
06:39:07,629 --> 06:39:08,328
The East the eoc goal for this

10486
06:39:08,328 --> 06:39:10,728
project is 19.3 The Certified

10487
06:39:12,767 --> 06:39:13,468
participation sits at 23.3 now

10488
06:39:13,468 --> 06:39:16,468
provide a 4.7 with the total

10489
06:39:17,750 --> 06:39:17,739
sub consultant Participation of

10490
06:39:17,739 --> 06:39:20,739
20% in this project is fully

10491
06:39:21,509 --> 06:39:21,976
funded via the Metro Sewer

10492
06:39:21,976 --> 06:39:22,677
Enterprise Fund.

10493
06:39:22,677 --> 06:39:23,411
That concludes my presentation

10494
06:39:23,411 --> 06:39:25,947
and we'll open it up to

10495
06:39:25,947 --> 06:39:26,481
questions.

10496
06:39:26,481 --> 06:39:27,810
>> All right.

10497
06:39:27,810 --> 06:39:27,815
Thank you very much for

10498
06:39:27,815 --> 06:39:28,350
the presentation, the good work

10499
06:39:28,350 --> 06:39:30,750
to bring it forward.

10500
06:39:31,520 --> 06:39:31,519
Clerk Please proceed with

10501
06:39:31,519 --> 06:39:31,953
public comment.

10502
06:39:31,953 --> 06:39:32,454
>> Thank you.

10503
06:39:32,454 --> 06:39:33,555
Council PRESIDENT.

10504
06:39:33,555 --> 06:39:37,155
We have allegedly order if you

10505
06:39:42,963 --> 06:39:45,363
can please come forward.

10506
06:39:48,303 --> 06:39:49,271
We have minutes.

10507
06:39:49,271 --> 06:39:51,671
>> Everybody would leave its

10508
06:39:53,141 --> 06:39:53,842
call.

10509
06:39:53,842 --> 06:39:54,509
Yes this is interesting you

10510
06:39:54,509 --> 06:39:57,913
guys in your not to exceed

10511
06:39:57,913 --> 06:39:58,646
amounts I don't know why we say

10512
06:39:58,646 --> 06:39:59,381
that because you're always like

10513
06:39:59,381 --> 06:40:02,784
we're not going to exceed this

10514
06:40:02,784 --> 06:40:03,552
amount and we're not exceeding

10515
06:40:03,552 --> 06:40:06,955
it by this amount and it's not

10516
06:40:06,955 --> 06:40:07,722
to exceed this amount And yet

10517
06:40:07,722 --> 06:40:08,623
you keep exceeding that amount.

10518
06:40:08,623 --> 06:40:11,660
So I just feel like what is

10519
06:40:11,660 --> 06:40:12,360
the point of saying that

10520
06:40:12,360 --> 06:40:13,610
because this is going to come

10521
06:40:13,610 --> 06:40:13,695
back again and you're going to

10522
06:40:13,695 --> 06:40:16,950
have five more amendments.

10523
06:40:17,990 --> 06:40:20,602
I mean if you're saying are you

10524
06:40:20,602 --> 06:40:21,269
saying this is going to cost

10525
06:40:21,269 --> 06:40:22,700
$135 million to do, then how

10526
06:40:22,700 --> 06:40:25,106
are we why are we having these

10527
06:40:25,106 --> 06:40:25,707
not to exceed by 5 million Like

10528
06:40:25,707 --> 06:40:28,707
you guys should be more

10529
06:40:29,578 --> 06:40:30,312
transparent with the people.

10530
06:40:30,312 --> 06:40:31,130
But if people really knew what

10531
06:40:31,130 --> 06:40:34,613
you were doing I mean you

10532
06:40:34,883 --> 06:40:35,784
wouldn't be here.

10533
06:40:35,784 --> 06:40:38,486
>> So yeah, it just concerning

10534
06:40:38,486 --> 06:40:39,254
especially with the like $5

10535
06:40:39,254 --> 06:40:42,590
billion that you guys need for

10536
06:40:42,590 --> 06:40:43,358
storm infrastructure it's like

10537
06:40:43,358 --> 06:40:44,225
these are the type of things

10538
06:40:44,225 --> 06:40:47,929
that need to be taken care of

10539
06:40:47,929 --> 06:40:48,564
And I feel like they don't It's

10540
06:40:48,564 --> 06:40:49,197
like you worry about other

10541
06:40:49,197 --> 06:40:52,167
things like sure arts and

10542
06:40:52,167 --> 06:40:53,350
culture is nice but it's like

10543
06:40:53,350 --> 06:40:53,735
if we have a storm that comes

10544
06:40:53,735 --> 06:40:54,436
and everybody loses everything

10545
06:40:54,436 --> 06:40:57,840
because we can't keep up with

10546
06:40:57,840 --> 06:40:58,440
the infrastructure, it's like

10547
06:40:58,440 --> 06:40:59,141
are we really being good

10548
06:40:59,141 --> 06:40:59,875
stewards of people's money If

10549
06:40:59,875 --> 06:41:02,875
you're actually putting them in

10550
06:41:03,110 --> 06:41:03,745
danger by not keeping up with

10551
06:41:03,745 --> 06:41:04,580
the things that need to be kept

10552
06:41:04,580 --> 06:41:08,150
up with and then you're like

10553
06:41:08,150 --> 06:41:08,883
forced to do stuff.

10554
06:41:08,883 --> 06:41:09,684
That's what seems to happen a

10555
06:41:09,684 --> 06:41:12,788
lot of times it's like you get

10556
06:41:12,788 --> 06:41:13,488
forced to capitulate as opposed

10557
06:41:13,488 --> 06:41:14,356
to just doing your job and

10558
06:41:14,356 --> 06:41:17,593
making sure that these types of

10559
06:41:17,593 --> 06:41:18,560
things are covered instead of

10560
06:41:18,560 --> 06:41:22,297
having to like go in and borrow

10561
06:41:22,297 --> 06:41:23,310
money all the time because

10562
06:41:23,310 --> 06:41:23,732
we're just you know, we have a

10563
06:41:23,732 --> 06:41:27,332
mayor that likes to make, you

10564
06:41:27,403 --> 06:41:30,403
know, music videos, stuff like

10565
06:41:32,407 --> 06:41:33,175
that with our money and use all

10566
06:41:33,175 --> 06:41:33,842
pr that doesn't work and now

10567
06:41:33,842 --> 06:41:36,842
we're in litigation for it.

10568
06:41:37,880 --> 06:41:38,647
How cool is that Like imagine

10569
06:41:38,647 --> 06:41:39,315
how much money that's going to

10570
06:41:39,315 --> 06:41:41,216
cost us and they're going to

10571
06:41:41,216 --> 06:41:42,170
probably bring in more of it

10572
06:41:42,170 --> 06:41:42,651
and then just you know, ask

10573
06:41:42,651 --> 06:41:45,651
the people for more money.

10574
06:41:46,822 --> 06:41:47,523
I'm sure Jennifer will get it

10575
06:41:47,523 --> 06:41:48,230
in her nice income tax that's

10576
06:41:48,230 --> 06:41:50,423
going to come in.

10577
06:41:56,465 --> 06:41:57,990
I'll we call write a job we'll

10578
06:41:57,990 --> 06:41:57,766
go to those participating

10579
06:41:57,766 --> 06:41:58,433
remotely a story of the five

10580
06:41:58,433 --> 06:42:00,636
minute time or Hector if you

10581
06:42:00,636 --> 06:42:01,360
can please unmute.

10582
06:42:01,360 --> 06:42:01,704
All right.

10583
06:42:01,704 --> 06:42:04,704
Thanks for taking my call.

10584
06:42:05,640 --> 06:42:06,174
Yeah looks like we got to do

10585
06:42:06,174 --> 06:42:06,842
something with this.

10586
06:42:06,842 --> 06:42:09,945
Definitely have to do it or

10587
06:42:09,945 --> 06:42:10,646
whatever it costs and then I

10588
06:42:10,646 --> 06:42:11,313
was thinking too on the other

10589
06:42:11,313 --> 06:42:14,313
cost overruns with the pure

10590
06:42:15,170 --> 06:42:15,683
water system on board Now we

10591
06:42:15,683 --> 06:42:18,830
should get financial updates

10592
06:42:20,423 --> 06:42:21,156
every month on that because

10593
06:42:21,156 --> 06:42:21,891
that's going to be they're just

10594
06:42:21,891 --> 06:42:24,260
going to add it into the bill

10595
06:42:24,260 --> 06:42:24,995
and the bill on the bill

10596
06:42:24,995 --> 06:42:25,828
instead of waiting for a couple

10597
06:42:25,828 --> 06:42:28,664
of years from now And there's

10598
06:42:28,664 --> 06:42:31,664
like a $2 million extra charge

10599
06:42:33,569 --> 06:42:34,436
on the bill So we should have

10600
06:42:34,436 --> 06:42:38,140
those this thing we got to do

10601
06:42:38,140 --> 06:42:38,841
the sewer lines and the water

10602
06:42:38,841 --> 06:42:39,242
is going to take pressure off

10603
06:42:39,242 --> 06:42:41,242
this valves.

10604
06:42:42,878 --> 06:42:43,613
It's going to take some of

10605
06:42:43,613 --> 06:42:46,983
the action off of it eventually

10606
06:42:46,983 --> 06:42:47,649
But down the road there's going

10607
06:42:47,649 --> 06:42:48,351
to be all sorts of cost

10608
06:42:48,351 --> 06:42:51,351
overruns on the pure water

10609
06:42:52,554 --> 06:42:53,255
system no matter what happens.

10610
06:42:53,255 --> 06:42:56,759
You know it's going to cost

10611
06:42:56,759 --> 06:42:57,493
like a railroad thing.

10612
06:42:57,493 --> 06:42:59,893
It's going to cost 200,000,200

10613
06:43:01,697 --> 06:43:02,498
billion And we spent 14 billion

10614
06:43:02,498 --> 06:43:06,980
on the railroad to nowhere from

10615
06:43:07,350 --> 06:43:10,350
California And when it was

10616
06:43:10,606 --> 06:43:11,241
supposed to be all done for 30

10617
06:43:11,241 --> 06:43:12,700
billion every year there's

10618
06:43:12,700 --> 06:43:15,607
overruns and it's just a slush

10619
06:43:15,878 --> 06:43:16,712
fund.

10620
06:43:16,712 --> 06:43:20,783
So I'm I'm not afraid but I

10621
06:43:20,783 --> 06:43:21,551
know that the cure Water

10622
06:43:21,551 --> 06:43:25,154
Project is going to turn into a

10623
06:43:25,154 --> 06:43:25,922
slush fund just like it did for

10624
06:43:25,922 --> 06:43:30,122
the state on the on the rapid

10625
06:43:30,560 --> 06:43:30,893
rail road system That's going

10626
06:43:30,893 --> 06:43:31,727
nowhere.

10627
06:43:31,727 --> 06:43:35,327
So capture some of that money

10628
06:43:36,966 --> 06:43:37,700
and put it in the sewer planet

10629
06:43:37,700 --> 06:43:41,370
to you want to river No more

10630
06:43:41,370 --> 06:43:41,904
money to the high speed rail

10631
06:43:41,904 --> 06:43:45,575
nothing Get rid of it Get rid

10632
06:43:45,575 --> 06:43:46,108
of the governor to man that

10633
06:43:46,108 --> 06:43:46,843
guy's a criminal.

10634
06:43:46,843 --> 06:43:47,676
You know We just got it.

10635
06:43:47,676 --> 06:43:50,446
His wife took all the fire

10636
06:43:50,446 --> 06:43:53,446
money Is those donations to

10637
06:43:55,840 --> 06:43:55,751
the fires His wife took it and

10638
06:43:55,751 --> 06:43:58,751
then like lying about it.

10639
06:43:59,522 --> 06:44:00,123
Now that's it's it's that's

10640
06:44:00,123 --> 06:44:00,790
that's how they work.

10641
06:44:00,790 --> 06:44:01,290
That's how they roll, man.

10642
06:44:01,290 --> 06:44:03,290
They're criminals.

10643
06:44:04,294 --> 06:44:04,961
Those guys.

10644
06:44:04,961 --> 06:44:05,495
>> We've got to go.

10645
06:44:05,495 --> 06:44:07,495
Time has concluded.

10646
06:44:21,276 --> 06:44:21,878
Tony, if you can please unmute

10647
06:44:21,878 --> 06:44:22,345
and you hear me.

10648
06:44:22,345 --> 06:44:22,812
Yes, we can.

10649
06:44:22,812 --> 06:44:24,812
Please proceed.

10650
06:44:25,281 --> 06:44:26,480
Hey, thank you.

10651
06:44:26,480 --> 06:44:26,683
Don't have much to say about

10652
06:44:26,683 --> 06:44:29,830
this project supportive of

10653
06:44:30,420 --> 06:44:33,420
whatever decision is taken in

10654
06:44:34,658 --> 06:44:35,525
whatever direction it goes in.

10655
06:44:35,525 --> 06:44:36,159
I wanted to finish something

10656
06:44:36,159 --> 06:44:36,459
that I was saying earlier

10657
06:44:36,459 --> 06:44:38,459
today.

10658
06:44:39,829 --> 06:44:40,463
I was acknowledging and

10659
06:44:40,463 --> 06:44:41,164
thanking everyone on this

10660
06:44:41,164 --> 06:44:44,764
council for their hard work in

10661
06:44:44,801 --> 06:44:45,568
the last couple of weeks and

10662
06:44:45,568 --> 06:44:49,168
for meeting us at least more

10663
06:44:49,539 --> 06:44:50,400
than halfway with regard to

10664
06:44:50,400 --> 06:44:50,806
restoring rights.

10665
06:44:50,806 --> 06:44:51,240
I would love for the arts to be

10666
06:44:51,240 --> 06:44:52,700
fully funded.

10667
06:44:52,700 --> 06:44:54,210
I would love for Oasis to be

10668
06:44:54,210 --> 06:44:55,345
fully funded.

10669
06:44:55,345 --> 06:44:59,583
I would love to see Flock but I

10670
06:44:59,583 --> 06:45:00,383
am really tired of seeing us

10671
06:45:00,383 --> 06:45:03,983
being used as guinea pigs for

10672
06:45:04,530 --> 06:45:04,654
luxury surveillance technology

10673
06:45:04,654 --> 06:45:05,388
that has already caused

10674
06:45:05,388 --> 06:45:08,388
problems within the city that's

10675
06:45:09,225 --> 06:45:09,893
already costing us more And

10676
06:45:09,893 --> 06:45:10,526
right now when we're having

10677
06:45:10,526 --> 06:45:11,194
these budget discussions I

10678
06:45:11,194 --> 06:45:14,194
don't think that we're being

10679
06:45:14,330 --> 06:45:15,650
very realistic about the cost

10680
06:45:15,650 --> 06:45:15,732
of the lawsuits that are coming

10681
06:45:15,732 --> 06:45:19,102
out of the budget And I get

10682
06:45:19,102 --> 06:45:19,602
that they're not coming out of

10683
06:45:19,602 --> 06:45:20,270
the general fund.

10684
06:45:20,270 --> 06:45:20,970
I get that they come out of

10685
06:45:20,970 --> 06:45:23,606
the private liability fund But

10686
06:45:23,606 --> 06:45:24,474
I think that we have a really

10687
06:45:24,474 --> 06:45:27,810
big issue with our city council

10688
06:45:27,810 --> 06:45:28,545
that it seems like no one is

10689
06:45:28,545 --> 06:45:29,245
really concerned if these funds

10690
06:45:29,245 --> 06:45:32,482
are coming out of the private

10691
06:45:32,482 --> 06:45:33,249
liability fund.

10692
06:45:33,249 --> 06:45:36,553
It's like we have a double

10693
06:45:36,553 --> 06:45:37,154
standard there and it's like

10694
06:45:37,154 --> 06:45:37,754
there's just this total

10695
06:45:37,754 --> 06:45:39,754
disconnect for holding

10696
06:45:41,658 --> 06:45:42,359
the bureaucracy of police

10697
06:45:42,359 --> 06:45:44,759
funding accountable whether it

10698
06:45:46,963 --> 06:45:47,631
be for police brutality.

10699
06:45:47,631 --> 06:45:48,365
I was just reading in

10700
06:45:48,365 --> 06:45:51,365
the Union-Tribune two weeks ago

10701
06:45:51,502 --> 06:45:52,236
or not Sunday but the Sunday

10702
06:45:52,236 --> 06:45:55,836
before last about the dhs agent

10703
06:45:56,873 --> 06:45:57,674
the agent dhs agent who was

10704
06:45:57,674 --> 06:45:58,541
beat up by pd and called a

10705
06:45:58,541 --> 06:46:01,111
whole bunch of racial slurs for

10706
06:46:01,111 --> 06:46:01,778
knocking on his window when he

10707
06:46:01,778 --> 06:46:02,450
was trying to get a hold of

10708
06:46:02,450 --> 06:46:02,679
him.

10709
06:46:02,679 --> 06:46:05,790
And that's another lawsuit

10710
06:46:05,649 --> 06:46:06,349
that's going to cost us who

10711
06:46:06,349 --> 06:46:06,984
knows how many more millions.

10712
06:46:06,984 --> 06:46:07,684
And there's just what I'm

10713
06:46:07,684 --> 06:46:10,684
really concerned about is that

10714
06:46:10,788 --> 06:46:13,788
there's no formal way that

10715
06:46:14,191 --> 06:46:14,825
the cp has no teeth even though

10716
06:46:14,825 --> 06:46:15,559
six years ago that's what

10717
06:46:15,559 --> 06:46:15,825
the citizens of San Diego voted

10718
06:46:15,825 --> 06:46:17,825
for.

10719
06:46:18,996 --> 06:46:19,328
Francine has expressed the same

10720
06:46:19,328 --> 06:46:20,970
concern.

10721
06:46:20,970 --> 06:46:23,697
I just don't really see us

10722
06:46:24,334 --> 06:46:25,690
making any progress We need to

10723
06:46:25,690 --> 06:46:28,669
have courage to confront as dpd

10724
06:46:28,905 --> 06:46:29,506
not just cheerlead its

10725
06:46:29,506 --> 06:46:30,173
concluded your time has

10726
06:46:30,173 --> 06:46:30,841
concluded and that concludes

10727
06:46:30,841 --> 06:46:33,810
public comment on this item.

10728
06:46:33,810 --> 06:46:34,111
>> All right Thank you for

10729
06:46:34,111 --> 06:46:34,779
that.

10730
06:46:34,779 --> 06:46:37,714
City clerk will now turn it

10731
06:46:37,714 --> 06:46:38,315
over to council colleagues for

10732
06:46:38,315 --> 06:46:38,983
questions, comments and

10733
06:46:38,983 --> 06:46:39,616
entertain a motion And we'll

10734
06:46:39,616 --> 06:46:42,160
start with Council member

10735
06:46:43,200 --> 06:46:43,687
Campbell.

10736
06:46:43,687 --> 06:46:44,521
>> Thank you so much.

10737
06:46:44,521 --> 06:46:48,425
This is part of the Point Loma

10738
06:46:48,425 --> 06:46:49,293
pump system.

10739
06:46:49,293 --> 06:46:49,893
We have to do this I move

10740
06:46:49,893 --> 06:46:51,893
staff's recommendation.

10741
06:46:53,264 --> 06:46:53,597
All right thank you council

10742
06:46:53,597 --> 06:46:54,364
members.

10743
06:46:54,364 --> 06:46:57,567
So a motion by council member

10744
06:46:57,567 --> 06:47:00,567
Campbell I'll go ahead and

10745
06:47:02,373 --> 06:47:03,730
second that not anybody else

10746
06:47:03,730 --> 06:47:03,740
might I'll just add my thank

10747
06:47:03,740 --> 06:47:06,477
you for taking care of it.

10748
06:47:06,477 --> 06:47:07,211
Pump Station two is kind of a

10749
06:47:07,211 --> 06:47:08,112
big deal isn't it, in the city?

10750
06:47:08,112 --> 06:47:11,148
So yeah, we got to do it right

10751
06:47:11,148 --> 06:47:11,982
As my colleagues said.

10752
06:47:11,982 --> 06:47:12,683
So we have a motion by Council

10753
06:47:12,683 --> 06:47:13,284
member Campbell the second by

10754
06:47:13,284 --> 06:47:16,284
myself to move the staff

10755
06:47:16,320 --> 06:47:16,987
recommendation.

10756
06:47:16,987 --> 06:47:17,688
>> Please call the roll I'm

10757
06:47:17,688 --> 06:47:20,688
sorry the voting system Please

10758
06:47:25,950 --> 06:47:25,763
cast your vote And that does

10759
06:47:25,763 --> 06:47:26,397
passed unanimously 920 Thank

10760
06:47:26,397 --> 06:47:26,697
you Council PRESIDENT All

10761
06:47:26,697 --> 06:47:27,640
right.

10762
06:47:27,640 --> 06:47:29,640
Thank you.

10763
06:47:30,467 --> 06:47:32,867
City Clerk Clerk Please

10764
06:47:34,738 --> 06:47:35,439
introduce item 632 Item 632 is

10765
06:47:35,439 --> 06:47:37,839
the construction change order

10766
06:47:39,310 --> 06:47:40,100
number five with pc Allen

10767
06:47:40,100 --> 06:47:40,644
Construction Services Inc for

10768
06:47:40,644 --> 06:47:43,644
the installation of a new

10769
06:47:44,215 --> 06:47:44,882
batting cage for Mira mesa

10770
06:47:44,882 --> 06:47:45,516
Community Park Improvements

10771
06:47:45,516 --> 06:47:46,217
Phase two If you'd like to

10772
06:47:46,217 --> 06:47:49,217
speak on this item now's

10773
06:47:49,419 --> 06:47:50,154
the time to raise your hand by

10774
06:47:50,154 --> 06:47:50,887
pressing Star nine or the raise

10775
06:47:50,887 --> 06:47:53,858
your hand icon or by submitting

10776
06:47:53,858 --> 06:47:54,492
a speaker slip If you're here

10777
06:47:54,492 --> 06:47:55,125
in person to the front of

10778
06:47:55,125 --> 06:47:55,793
the room in the clear box.

10779
06:47:55,793 --> 06:47:58,193
Thank you Council PRESIDENT

10780
06:47:59,196 --> 06:47:59,897
Thank you.

10781
06:47:59,897 --> 06:48:00,498
Council Council PRESIDENT Pro

10782
06:48:00,498 --> 06:48:00,865
Tem Lee this is in your

10783
06:48:00,865 --> 06:48:02,865
district.

10784
06:48:03,401 --> 06:48:04,135
Did you want to hear

10785
06:48:04,135 --> 06:48:04,735
the presentation or happy to

10786
06:48:04,735 --> 06:48:05,403
waive the presentation.

10787
06:48:05,403 --> 06:48:08,272
Anybody else want to hear

10788
06:48:08,272 --> 06:48:09,400
the presentation?

10789
06:48:09,400 --> 06:48:09,774
All right with that Well thank

10790
06:48:09,774 --> 06:48:12,476
you staff for the work to bring

10791
06:48:12,476 --> 06:48:13,210
it forward and be prepared for

10792
06:48:13,210 --> 06:48:13,610
any questions and comments that

10793
06:48:13,610 --> 06:48:15,610
MAY come up.

10794
06:48:17,881 --> 06:48:18,348
But let's go ahead and go to

10795
06:48:18,348 --> 06:48:19,490
public comment.

10796
06:48:19,490 --> 06:48:21,419
>> Thank you, Max Schmidt, if

10797
06:48:21,419 --> 06:48:22,120
you can please come forward to

10798
06:48:22,120 --> 06:48:25,120
the microphone after that will

10799
06:48:32,163 --> 06:48:32,663
be allegedly Audra, how much

10800
06:48:32,663 --> 06:48:33,640
time do I have?

10801
06:48:33,640 --> 06:48:35,640
>> Sorry.

10802
06:48:35,600 --> 06:48:38,903
You'll have one minute and a

10803
06:48:38,903 --> 06:48:39,604
half on hi items 632 I'm here

10804
06:48:39,604 --> 06:48:42,604
on the paper says installation

10805
06:48:44,207 --> 06:48:44,909
of a new batting cage for

10806
06:48:44,909 --> 06:48:45,576
the Mira Mess Community park.

10807
06:48:45,576 --> 06:48:47,976
I hope everyone understands

10808
06:48:48,245 --> 06:48:48,913
where I'm coming from.

10809
06:48:48,913 --> 06:48:52,513
This is the United States of

10810
06:48:53,500 --> 06:48:53,384
America and I don't have mental

10811
06:48:53,384 --> 06:48:54,151
freedom.

10812
06:48:54,151 --> 06:48:57,751
I am a mind control victim

10813
06:48:58,656 --> 06:48:59,457
where people at the homeless

10814
06:48:59,457 --> 06:49:00,191
shelter that I'm staying at and

10815
06:49:00,191 --> 06:49:03,361
the only reason I'm homeless is

10816
06:49:03,361 --> 06:49:04,620
because they 5150 then 52 50th

10817
06:49:04,620 --> 06:49:04,562
MAY decide to leave the state

10818
06:49:04,562 --> 06:49:06,962
to not get forced

10819
06:49:06,997 --> 06:49:07,599
antipsychotics at the homeless

10820
06:49:07,599 --> 06:49:08,265
shelter I'm staying at

10821
06:49:08,265 --> 06:49:08,600
the staff and other homeless

10822
06:49:08,600 --> 06:49:09,300
people.

10823
06:49:09,300 --> 06:49:11,803
I don't know if they're feds.

10824
06:49:11,803 --> 06:49:12,470
They're obviously Freemasons

10825
06:49:12,470 --> 06:49:13,104
because they're telepathic.

10826
06:49:13,104 --> 06:49:16,104
They keep a constant like

10827
06:49:17,750 --> 06:49:17,775
audible voice saying my

10828
06:49:17,775 --> 06:49:20,775
thoughts out loud mocking me,

10829
06:49:21,513 --> 06:49:22,414
accusing me of things and I

10830
06:49:22,414 --> 06:49:25,984
can't even think I do not have

10831
06:49:25,984 --> 06:49:26,684
mental freedom in America And

10832
06:49:26,684 --> 06:49:30,284
it's a shame on City Council

10833
06:49:31,389 --> 06:49:32,890
for not caring about my

10834
06:49:32,890 --> 06:49:35,890
situation and instead my tax

10835
06:49:36,227 --> 06:49:36,894
dollars are going towards

10836
06:49:36,894 --> 06:49:37,629
the batting cage and mirror

10837
06:49:37,629 --> 06:49:40,931
message or something And all of

10838
06:49:40,931 --> 06:49:41,666
this is because I am I'm

10839
06:49:41,666 --> 06:49:45,266
exposing the new World order to

10840
06:49:45,302 --> 06:49:45,970
the point where the whole

10841
06:49:45,970 --> 06:49:46,705
entire world's population is

10842
06:49:46,705 --> 06:49:50,305
going to know that the majority

10843
06:49:50,842 --> 06:49:51,642
of people in the West Coast are

10844
06:49:51,642 --> 06:49:55,614
on their third act of life and

10845
06:49:55,614 --> 06:49:56,247
they've all reincarnated in

10846
06:49:56,247 --> 06:49:59,247
the cancer park There's a

10847
06:49:59,985 --> 06:50:00,685
statue of a of an old lady gone

10848
06:50:00,685 --> 06:50:01,285
through an archway and coming

10849
06:50:01,285 --> 06:50:04,285
out a little kid There's

10850
06:50:04,856 --> 06:50:05,624
statues about reincarnation and

10851
06:50:05,624 --> 06:50:06,591
I say down off the court you

10852
06:50:06,591 --> 06:50:10,791
shame on all of you like you

10853
06:50:16,468 --> 06:50:18,868
allegedly Audra two hundred

10854
06:50:21,205 --> 06:50:21,940
thousand dollars for a batting

10855
06:50:21,940 --> 06:50:24,940
cage seems quite excessive when

10856
06:50:25,276 --> 06:50:25,810
you could spend I don't know 15

10857
06:50:25,810 --> 06:50:27,810
to $50,000 on it.

10858
06:50:30,115 --> 06:50:31,183
I mean you might as well put,

10859
06:50:31,183 --> 06:50:34,783
you know, 4 or 10 there and you

10860
06:50:35,520 --> 06:50:36,188
know, for that price.

10861
06:50:36,188 --> 06:50:36,855
But it's like anything that

10862
06:50:36,855 --> 06:50:37,322
the government does they'll

10863
06:50:37,322 --> 06:50:39,322
charge you more.

10864
06:50:40,580 --> 06:50:40,692
But I feel like there are parks

10865
06:50:40,692 --> 06:50:43,692
that could use, you know,

10866
06:50:44,696 --> 06:50:45,296
lighting and cameras.

10867
06:50:45,296 --> 06:50:45,831
You know, there's rapes

10868
06:50:45,831 --> 06:50:46,465
happening in parks.

10869
06:50:46,465 --> 06:50:48,865
People are being brutally

10870
06:50:50,135 --> 06:50:50,835
assaulted by police officers

10871
06:50:50,835 --> 06:50:53,835
like in Raghu Campos district

10872
06:50:54,706 --> 06:50:55,173
at Linda Vista Recreation with

10873
06:50:55,173 --> 06:50:56,141
Anthony Warner.

10874
06:50:56,141 --> 06:50:59,945
I mean it's like it's kind of a

10875
06:50:59,945 --> 06:51:00,712
disservice to go to certain

10876
06:51:00,712 --> 06:51:03,712
communities and put this type

10877
06:51:04,316 --> 06:51:05,830
of, you know, accessory per se

10878
06:51:05,830 --> 06:51:08,683
in there where other people are

10879
06:51:09,540 --> 06:51:09,821
just begging for like a swing

10880
06:51:09,821 --> 06:51:14,210
And it's like if you go and

10881
06:51:14,193 --> 06:51:14,926
live in another community you

10882
06:51:14,926 --> 06:51:15,661
can have batting cages, you can

10883
06:51:15,661 --> 06:51:19,261
have you know, hot who knows

10884
06:51:19,531 --> 06:51:19,931
equestrian stuff, all of these

10885
06:51:19,931 --> 06:51:20,632
great perks.

10886
06:51:20,632 --> 06:51:21,700
But I mean if people just want

10887
06:51:21,700 --> 06:51:24,736
a park to go to to bring their

10888
06:51:24,736 --> 06:51:25,604
kids and it's not even safe, I

10889
06:51:25,604 --> 06:51:28,240
just don't think that we should

10890
06:51:28,240 --> 06:51:28,940
be spending $200,000 on a

10891
06:51:28,940 --> 06:51:31,340
batting cage again, especially

10892
06:51:32,644 --> 06:51:33,412
when you could spend less and

10893
06:51:33,412 --> 06:51:37,150
you could put more of them in

10894
06:51:37,150 --> 06:51:37,716
other places like for 50 grand

10895
06:51:37,716 --> 06:51:38,584
each You could go to four

10896
06:51:38,584 --> 06:51:41,620
different parks and put them in

10897
06:51:41,620 --> 06:51:42,354
there but instead let's spend

10898
06:51:42,354 --> 06:51:43,550
this $200,000 here and it makes

10899
06:51:43,550 --> 06:51:46,550
me wonder like who's getting

10900
06:51:46,491 --> 06:51:47,192
kicked back from that Because

10901
06:51:47,192 --> 06:51:47,959
it's like you guys don't have

10902
06:51:47,959 --> 06:51:51,559
to spend money like this but

10903
06:51:51,630 --> 06:51:52,231
you do going to those

10904
06:51:52,231 --> 06:51:52,865
participating remotely.

10905
06:51:52,865 --> 06:51:55,865
Samantha if you can please

10906
06:52:00,472 --> 06:52:01,106
unmute on this is Samantha

10907
06:52:01,106 --> 06:52:03,506
Castronovo and I'm hearing

10908
06:52:05,110 --> 06:52:05,578
the comments on this and then

10909
06:52:05,578 --> 06:52:07,578
it's not clear.

10910
06:52:07,780 --> 06:52:11,380
So hey I wish the presentation

10911
06:52:13,251 --> 06:52:16,851
wasn't waved and I don't know

10912
06:52:17,690 --> 06:52:18,457
what to say.

10913
06:52:18,457 --> 06:52:19,157
I'm just going to hope that

10914
06:52:19,157 --> 06:52:19,858
council members make the right

10915
06:52:19,858 --> 06:52:22,661
decision on this because there

10916
06:52:22,661 --> 06:52:26,261
are other things being cut and

10917
06:52:27,666 --> 06:52:30,666
that 200,000 is much needed in

10918
06:52:34,340 --> 06:52:37,340
many other places right now.

10919
06:52:39,450 --> 06:52:42,450
>> I might conclude with that.

10920
06:52:44,316 --> 06:52:44,662
That concludes your comments.

10921
06:52:44,662 --> 06:52:45,840
Yes.

10922
06:52:45,840 --> 06:52:47,840
Thank you, Tony.

10923
06:52:48,654 --> 06:52:51,654
If you can please unmute.

10924
06:52:53,859 --> 06:52:54,594
Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel

10925
06:52:54,594 --> 06:52:58,194
about this batting cages I mean

10926
06:52:58,698 --> 06:52:59,565
ideally it's a fantastic thing

10927
06:52:59,565 --> 06:53:00,233
and I love to see this money

10928
06:53:00,233 --> 06:53:02,633
going towards youth services

10929
06:53:03,302 --> 06:53:03,869
towards parks and I ordinarily

10930
06:53:03,869 --> 06:53:04,503
would feel like it's a

10931
06:53:04,503 --> 06:53:06,903
fantastic thing just given

10932
06:53:07,874 --> 06:53:08,541
the budget crisis I'm not

10933
06:53:08,541 --> 06:53:11,541
exactly sure where that fits

10934
06:53:13,445 --> 06:53:14,346
into everything but I guess if

10935
06:53:14,346 --> 06:53:17,449
we can fit it in I don't know

10936
06:53:17,449 --> 06:53:18,117
maybe this maybe this I'm

10937
06:53:18,117 --> 06:53:18,818
thinking out loud but maybe

10938
06:53:18,818 --> 06:53:21,818
this is the preventative care

10939
06:53:22,555 --> 06:53:23,122
and the preventative public

10940
06:53:23,122 --> 06:53:24,190
service that we need.

10941
06:53:24,190 --> 06:53:28,600
I hope that I hope that if this

10942
06:53:28,600 --> 06:53:28,761
money is spent in that

10943
06:53:28,761 --> 06:53:29,395
direction I'll say this I hope

10944
06:53:29,395 --> 06:53:32,395
that the batting cages are

10945
06:53:32,931 --> 06:53:33,299
utilized and they are used

10946
06:53:33,299 --> 06:53:35,299
regularly.

10947
06:53:36,936 --> 06:53:37,669
It's a shame we don't see as

10948
06:53:37,669 --> 06:53:38,404
many kids going outside anymore

10949
06:53:38,404 --> 06:53:41,808
as we used to but that's a

10950
06:53:41,808 --> 06:53:42,542
separate discussion for a

10951
06:53:42,542 --> 06:53:43,175
separate day I wanted to finish

10952
06:53:43,175 --> 06:53:46,175
what I was saying earlier

10953
06:53:46,879 --> 06:53:47,646
really I wanted to thank you.

10954
06:53:47,646 --> 06:53:48,113
I appreciate the dry wit and

10955
06:53:48,113 --> 06:53:50,113
sense of humor.

10956
06:53:52,850 --> 06:53:55,554
I thought it was pretty funny

10957
06:53:55,554 --> 06:53:56,222
the joke you cracked about

10958
06:53:56,222 --> 06:53:56,888
1993, the reference you made

10959
06:53:56,888 --> 06:53:57,557
with the lifeguards and then

10960
06:53:57,557 --> 06:54:00,226
saying you know, but none of

10961
06:54:00,226 --> 06:54:00,860
you were probably alive back

10962
06:54:00,860 --> 06:54:01,594
then Something that you do

10963
06:54:01,594 --> 06:54:04,594
every meeting You crack like

10964
06:54:05,565 --> 06:54:06,298
jokes dry witty jokes and

10965
06:54:06,298 --> 06:54:06,932
sometimes they go over people's

10966
06:54:06,932 --> 06:54:09,332
heads or sometimes people

10967
06:54:09,869 --> 06:54:10,369
aren't ready for them so they

10968
06:54:10,369 --> 06:54:12,369
don't always land.

10969
06:54:14,707 --> 06:54:15,800
But I learned to appreciate

10970
06:54:15,800 --> 06:54:15,675
that.

10971
06:54:15,675 --> 06:54:18,675
So thanks for doing that.

10972
06:54:19,178 --> 06:54:19,845
And finally I wanted to say

10973
06:54:19,845 --> 06:54:20,245
Henry Foster, thank you for

10974
06:54:20,245 --> 06:54:21,130
being back.

10975
06:54:21,130 --> 06:54:24,613
Great to see you asking all

10976
06:54:24,684 --> 06:54:25,840
the questions with regard to

10977
06:54:25,840 --> 06:54:25,518
the funding.

10978
06:54:25,518 --> 06:54:26,190
>> Thank you.

10979
06:54:26,190 --> 06:54:27,120
Thank you, Hector.

10980
06:54:27,120 --> 06:54:30,120
As our final speaker, Hector,

10981
06:54:32,859 --> 06:54:33,460
if you can please unmute.

10982
06:54:33,460 --> 06:54:34,194
>> Well hi Hector.

10983
06:54:34,194 --> 06:54:37,497
Thanks for taking my call And

10984
06:54:37,497 --> 06:54:38,298
this is a great use of money

10985
06:54:38,298 --> 06:54:38,631
man this is great especially in

10986
06:54:38,631 --> 06:54:40,631
Miramar.

10987
06:54:41,701 --> 06:54:42,568
So man there's a lot of like

10988
06:54:42,568 --> 06:54:46,768
kids up there and stuff and you

10989
06:54:47,206 --> 06:54:47,974
should get involved.

10990
06:54:47,974 --> 06:54:51,378
Any Asian kid like in the first

10991
06:54:51,378 --> 06:54:52,780
and third, second, third grade

10992
06:54:52,780 --> 06:54:55,582
give like a letter in the mail

10993
06:54:55,582 --> 06:54:56,349
and invite them to the grand

10994
06:54:56,349 --> 06:54:57,150
opening of this thing and tell

10995
06:54:57,150 --> 06:55:00,750
them we're looking for the next

10996
06:55:01,220 --> 06:55:01,788
row.

10997
06:55:01,788 --> 06:55:02,655
The Padres are going to need

10998
06:55:02,655 --> 06:55:05,959
another It's your map and it's

10999
06:55:05,959 --> 06:55:06,660
come it's going to come out of

11000
06:55:06,660 --> 06:55:09,862
Miramar So it's going to take

11001
06:55:09,862 --> 06:55:10,564
time and give them give them a

11002
06:55:10,564 --> 06:55:11,264
letter man And one of those

11003
06:55:11,264 --> 06:55:14,668
little guys would go Yeah, I

11004
06:55:14,668 --> 06:55:15,268
want to be Ichiro and we could

11005
06:55:15,268 --> 06:55:18,268
have him on the Padres.

11006
06:55:19,407 --> 06:55:20,207
So I think you should do more

11007
06:55:20,207 --> 06:55:23,807
of this And every every council

11008
06:55:23,876 --> 06:55:24,543
district should have their own

11009
06:55:24,543 --> 06:55:25,312
pitching machine and stuff.

11010
06:55:25,312 --> 06:55:28,615
This is a great thing for them.

11011
06:55:28,615 --> 06:55:29,282
It's money well spent and and

11012
06:55:29,282 --> 06:55:29,983
the Padres are going to need

11013
06:55:29,983 --> 06:55:32,983
some of that Asian pitching

11014
06:55:33,753 --> 06:55:34,457
that like the Dodgers they're

11015
06:55:34,457 --> 06:55:38,570
getting them from Japan but we

11016
06:55:38,691 --> 06:55:39,760
got him homegrown right here in

11017
06:55:39,760 --> 06:55:43,530
San Diego Man We got him man So

11018
06:55:43,530 --> 06:55:44,263
instead of paying those

11019
06:55:44,263 --> 06:55:47,263
Japanese and you know, carrying

11020
06:55:48,869 --> 06:55:49,503
guys from Korea we can get our

11021
06:55:49,503 --> 06:55:52,503
own guys pay them anyway.

11022
06:55:53,206 --> 06:55:53,607
GOD bless you guys.

11023
06:55:53,607 --> 06:55:54,700
>> Goodbye.

11024
06:55:54,700 --> 06:55:54,708
Thank you.

11025
06:55:54,708 --> 06:55:55,142
That concludes public comment

11026
06:55:55,142 --> 06:55:55,508
on this item.

11027
06:55:55,508 --> 06:55:55,875
All right.

11028
06:55:55,875 --> 06:55:57,875
Thank you.

11029
06:55:58,215 --> 06:55:58,779
City clerk turned over to my

11030
06:55:58,779 --> 06:55:59,145
council colleagues for

11031
06:55:59,145 --> 06:55:59,880
questions.

11032
06:55:59,880 --> 06:56:00,480
Comments Entertain a motion and

11033
06:56:00,480 --> 06:56:02,880
we'll start with Council

11034
06:56:03,416 --> 06:56:04,117
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Daniels

11035
06:56:04,117 --> 06:56:04,785
PRESIDENT This is an item and

11036
06:56:04,785 --> 06:56:07,185
thank you for weighing

11037
06:56:07,654 --> 06:56:08,454
the presentation.

11038
06:56:08,454 --> 06:56:09,220
This is an item that's actually

11039
06:56:09,220 --> 06:56:09,689
a follow up to when

11040
06:56:09,689 --> 06:56:11,157
the emergency committee park

11041
06:56:11,157 --> 06:56:11,825
was first approved for phase

11042
06:56:11,825 --> 06:56:12,325
one where the space was left

11043
06:56:12,325 --> 06:56:14,325
for batting cages.

11044
06:56:16,663 --> 06:56:17,364
The project was intended but

11045
06:56:17,364 --> 06:56:20,364
never completed and the mayor

11046
06:56:21,134 --> 06:56:21,902
pays to park.

11047
06:56:21,902 --> 06:56:22,269
Phase two project has been well

11048
06:56:22,269 --> 06:56:22,937
underway.

11049
06:56:22,937 --> 06:56:25,937
We're very excited that it's

11050
06:56:26,373 --> 06:56:27,400
actually ahead of schedule and

11051
06:56:27,400 --> 06:56:27,741
as we understand it has left

11052
06:56:27,741 --> 06:56:28,375
some room available as well so

11053
06:56:28,375 --> 06:56:31,375
that this project could be

11054
06:56:31,445 --> 06:56:32,112
taken care of in partnership

11055
06:56:32,112 --> 06:56:35,712
with the users of the park.

11056
06:56:36,817 --> 06:56:37,518
And so the funds only come from

11057
06:56:37,518 --> 06:56:38,152
within the community funds So

11058
06:56:38,152 --> 06:56:41,321
it does not take away from

11059
06:56:41,321 --> 06:56:42,220
other components of the urban

11060
06:56:42,220 --> 06:56:42,355
as we're debating tomorrow's

11061
06:56:42,355 --> 06:56:42,990
budget.

11062
06:56:42,990 --> 06:56:43,623
But we'd be happy to make

11063
06:56:43,623 --> 06:56:43,924
the motion to approve this

11064
06:56:43,924 --> 06:56:44,290
item.

11065
06:56:44,290 --> 06:56:45,826
Thank you.

11066
06:56:45,826 --> 06:56:46,693
All right.

11067
06:56:46,693 --> 06:56:47,393
We have a motion by Council

11068
06:56:47,393 --> 06:56:47,994
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee to move

11069
06:56:47,994 --> 06:56:49,994
the staff recommendation

11070
06:56:51,298 --> 06:56:51,965
Council member Yellow Rivera

11071
06:56:51,965 --> 06:56:52,566
Thank you Council PRESIDENT

11072
06:56:52,566 --> 06:56:54,966
I'll second I appreciate

11073
06:56:55,802 --> 06:56:56,503
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem

11074
06:56:56,503 --> 06:56:57,204
explaining the limited ways in

11075
06:56:57,204 --> 06:57:00,207
which these funds can be used

11076
06:57:00,207 --> 06:57:00,907
And then I just wanted to point

11077
06:57:00,907 --> 06:57:04,507
this part out because it kind

11078
06:57:05,412 --> 06:57:06,460
of came up and yes we should

11079
06:57:06,460 --> 06:57:06,713
always be as efficient as

11080
06:57:06,713 --> 06:57:07,314
possible their dollars make

11081
06:57:07,314 --> 06:57:09,583
sure they're being spent

11082
06:57:09,583 --> 06:57:10,184
appropriately and giving young

11083
06:57:10,184 --> 06:57:12,584
people an opportunity to

11084
06:57:14,788 --> 06:57:15,522
practice a craft like kidding

11085
06:57:15,522 --> 06:57:16,223
is the exact sort of thing that

11086
06:57:16,223 --> 06:57:19,560
keeps them out of trouble and

11087
06:57:19,560 --> 06:57:20,361
gives them purpose and make

11088
06:57:20,361 --> 06:57:20,661
sure they stay on a positive

11089
06:57:20,661 --> 06:57:21,328
path.

11090
06:57:21,328 --> 06:57:23,328
Repetition Getting positive

11091
06:57:24,465 --> 06:57:24,999
reinforcement, seeing

11092
06:57:24,999 --> 06:57:25,699
themselves improve.

11093
06:57:25,699 --> 06:57:26,400
It's something all the things

11094
06:57:26,400 --> 06:57:29,269
with all things that happen in

11095
06:57:29,269 --> 06:57:29,970
batting cages are exactly

11096
06:57:29,970 --> 06:57:30,504
the sort of thing that we want

11097
06:57:30,504 --> 06:57:30,937
more of in the city.

11098
06:57:30,937 --> 06:57:32,937
So thank you.

11099
06:57:34,275 --> 06:57:34,874
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem for

11100
06:57:34,874 --> 06:57:36,477
explaining details here.

11101
06:57:36,477 --> 06:57:39,477
This seems like an excellent

11102
06:57:42,150 --> 06:57:42,883
investment.

11103
06:57:42,883 --> 06:57:43,284
Can I take that as a second?

11104
06:57:43,284 --> 06:57:44,117
All right.

11105
06:57:44,117 --> 06:57:46,387
So we have a motion by Council

11106
06:57:46,387 --> 06:57:47,210
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee and

11107
06:57:47,210 --> 06:57:47,755
second by Council Mariano

11108
06:57:47,755 --> 06:57:50,424
Rivera to move the staff report

11109
06:57:50,424 --> 06:57:51,910
staff recommendation.

11110
06:57:51,910 --> 06:57:53,491
>> I'll add my thanks.

11111
06:57:55,996 --> 06:57:56,730
Please call the roll.

11112
06:57:56,730 --> 06:58:00,267
I set up the voting system.

11113
06:58:00,267 --> 06:58:00,901
Please cast your vote and that

11114
06:58:00,901 --> 06:58:01,268
passes unanimously 9 to 0.

11115
06:58:01,268 --> 06:58:01,769
All right.

11116
06:58:01,769 --> 06:58:03,769
Again, thank you.

11117
06:58:05,473 --> 06:58:05,806
The staff that brings us to

11118
06:58:05,806 --> 06:58:06,506
the end.

11119
06:58:06,506 --> 06:58:10,106
We will now adjourn council to

11120
06:58:10,310 --> 06:58:13,310
the special council meeting on

11121
06:58:13,915 --> 06:58:14,681
Tuesday, JUNE 9th, 2026 at 9

11122
06:58:14,681 --> 06:58:18,586
A.M. 9 A.M. Where we will start

11123
06:58:18,586 --> 06:58:21,586
with nine Agenda Public comment