[1:09:21] Psychological Services along
[1:09:26] with things like whistleblower
[1:09:27] protections and really learning
[1:09:28] how to build those things that
[1:09:33] is just it builds not only
[1:09:34] the police well but it builds
[1:09:34] our community well, it builds
[1:09:35] our well-being.
[1:09:39] So it's really important we
[1:09:39] work on that and good luck.
[1:09:40] And I wanted to comment that
[1:09:41] because of the issues that
[1:09:46] we've had recently, I think
[1:09:46] police have had some sort of
[1:09:51] standard where they cannot more
[1:09:51] easily talk to themselves about
[1:09:52] how to discuss the technology
[1:09:56] in real time.
[1:09:57] We have to have those
[1:09:58] conversations openly and make
[1:09:58] sure police are practicing in
[1:10:03] good terms.
[1:10:04] >> When we have that
[1:10:04] conversation.
[1:10:05] Thank you.
[1:10:05] Thank you.
[1:10:06] The five minute timer to
[1:10:06] conclude here in council
[1:10:10] chambers no additional speakers
[1:10:10] will be taken.
[1:10:11] There were seven in the queue.
[1:10:12] Lauren Keenan if you can please
[1:10:15] unmute and let me know which
[1:10:16] item or items you wish to speak
[1:10:16] to.
[1:10:17] Item 6 or 5 please.
[1:10:22] Please proceed.
[1:10:22] >> You have one minute.
[1:10:23] Okay I am walking in co founder
[1:10:27] of Family for Safety at San
[1:10:27] Diego.
[1:10:28] I spoke on Friday about why
[1:10:28] the multimodal team matters to
[1:10:29] families like mine hope and
[1:10:33] personally impacted by traffic
[1:10:33] violence.
[1:10:34] Today I want to focus on
[1:10:35] the solution in front of you
[1:10:35] the city's own transportation
[1:10:39] professionals have told us that
[1:10:40] eliminating this team will
[1:10:40] reduce Indigo's ability to
[1:10:45] deliver street safety projects
[1:10:45] .
[1:10:46] If we believe safer streets
[1:10:46] save lives we should take that
[1:10:47] assessment seriously.
[1:10:51] Cities across the country are
[1:10:52] investing in dedicated street
[1:10:52] safety staff, not eliminating
[1:10:53] them.
[1:10:58] You asked advocates to identify
[1:10:59] a practical solution for
[1:11:00] the Aramark included armory Is
[1:11:00] that solution for families who
[1:11:03] have already lost loved ones
[1:11:04] it's really difficult to
[1:11:04] understand why preserving a
[1:11:05] team dedicated to making our
[1:11:10] streets safe safer would not be
[1:11:10] a priority.
[1:11:11] Remember our amendment gives
[1:11:12] you the opportunity to preserve
[1:11:15] the city's ability to make
[1:11:16] streets safer.
[1:11:16] I urge you to amend the item
[1:11:17] the need for funding to
[1:11:21] the multi-modal team.
[1:11:22] Thank you very much.
[1:11:22] Thank you.
[1:11:23] Next the San Diego County
[1:11:23] Bicycle Coalition if you can
[1:11:24] please I'm you and let me know
[1:11:27] which item or items you wish to
[1:11:28] speak to Item 6 or 5 please.
[1:11:33] >> Please proceed.
[1:11:34] >> Good morning City Council.
[1:11:35] My name is the Integrity and
[1:11:35] I'm the advocacy and community
[1:11:36] manager for the City County
[1:11:38] Bicycle Coalition.
[1:11:39] I'm calling in to urge you to
[1:11:40] amend the Armory Project list
[1:11:41] to fully fund the city's
[1:11:44] multimodal team for f y 27.
[1:11:45] The Armory Project List
[1:11:45] includes funding for
[1:11:50] the citywide City Manager plan.
[1:11:51] This plan has been in the works
[1:11:52] for a long time.
[1:11:52] We were excited to see it
[1:11:53] included in this flexible
[1:11:53] funding list.
[1:11:56] Months ago when you received
[1:11:57] the presentation from staff on
[1:11:57] the city Manager plan to
[1:11:58] acknowledge an important fact
[1:12:02] about reducing speeds was that
[1:12:03] changing the sign is not
[1:12:03] enough.
[1:12:04] We need engineering enforcement
[1:12:04] solutions to actually make a
[1:12:05] difference.
[1:12:08] We will not be able to achieve
[1:12:08] the identified and prioritize
[1:12:09] speed reductions without
[1:12:10] the multi-modal team.
[1:12:14] This team was responsible for
[1:12:14] making the quick and easy
[1:12:15] design changes during
[1:12:16] resurfacing that slow speeds
[1:12:16] down.
[1:12:20] We should use those flexible
[1:12:21] armory funds to keep
[1:12:21] the multi-modal team on board
[1:12:22] so they can assist in the work
[1:12:23] outlined in this expansion plan
[1:12:26] section A.D. For this item.
[1:12:27] Based on the quotes provided in
[1:12:30] Friday's meeting we can fully
[1:12:31] fund this team with 12 miles
[1:12:31] worth of slurry seal.
[1:12:32] >> We need this team to make
[1:12:33] the other hundreds of miles
[1:12:33] safer.
[1:12:34] Thank you for your time.
[1:12:36] Thank you.
[1:12:37] Next is Tony.
[1:12:38] If you can please unmute please
[1:12:38] let me know which item or items
[1:12:42] you wish to speak to.
[1:12:42] >> Hello, How you doing?
[1:12:43] Can you hear me?
[1:12:43] Yes.
[1:12:44] Hey, good morning.
[1:12:48] I wanted to speak to item
[1:12:49] number I believe it's 617.
[1:12:58] It was Yes 617 Number 615 Oh
[1:12:58] I'm sorry.
[1:12:59] Not 615 614.
[1:13:04] And which one was the multi
[1:13:09] modal 605 which was speaking to
[1:13:09] six and five as well.
[1:13:10] Please proceed.
[1:13:10] You have three minutes.
[1:13:14] Thank you.
[1:13:15] >> And then I also just wanted
[1:13:16] to clarify two it seems like
[1:13:16] there's been a little bit of
[1:13:19] inconsistency about about what
[1:13:20] is allowed to be spoken to in
[1:13:26] terms of which topics are
[1:13:27] addressed during agenda items
[1:13:27] and which ones are addressed
[1:13:32] are just addressed during non
[1:13:33] agenda public comment.
[1:13:33] I just want to make sure that
[1:13:34] we have some consistency
[1:13:38] because you know we did have
[1:13:39] somebody that was speaking
[1:13:40] earlier and he was told for
[1:13:40] the Balboa Park thing that he
[1:13:44] would have to speak on that at
[1:13:45] a later time because that was
[1:13:45] being discussed at a later
[1:13:46] point in the day.
[1:13:49] But I didn't see anything in
[1:13:50] the agenda about Freemasonry.
[1:13:51] I didn't see anything in
[1:13:56] the agenda about accusing
[1:13:56] council members of drinking
[1:13:57] blood.
[1:13:57] I didn't see anything in
[1:14:02] the agenda about China invading
[1:14:03] the United States.
[1:14:03] So I'm just curious why some of
[1:14:04] our constituents are allowed to
[1:14:08] have just these unhinged rants,
[1:14:09] these disrespectful unhinged
[1:14:09] rants.
[1:14:14] They aren't cut off And if
[1:14:15] that's okay, we're going to
[1:14:16] have that sort of inconsistency
[1:14:16] then I would like the freedom
[1:14:20] to be able to talk about Flock
[1:14:21] Alper and how I'm opposed to it
[1:14:25] for the next three minutes But
[1:14:26] I'm not going to do that.
[1:14:26] I'm not going to disrespect
[1:14:27] y'all's time like that and
[1:14:30] disrespect the rules and
[1:14:31] the decorum like that But I
[1:14:32] would hope that it would
[1:14:32] encourage you all to do your
[1:14:37] job and maybe stay on it a
[1:14:37] little bit better and have more
[1:14:38] consistency with that because
[1:14:39] it's not really fair to
[1:14:42] the rest of us and it's not
[1:14:43] fair to our council members and
[1:14:43] the people in council right
[1:14:44] now.
[1:14:49] I hope I hope that you're
[1:14:50] hearing this because please get
[1:14:50] it together.
[1:14:51] It's it's you get more you get
[1:14:54] more money, you get more bs
[1:14:55] with honey than you do with
[1:14:55] vinegar and accusing people
[1:14:56] making baseless accusations,
[1:14:57] accusing people of drinking
[1:15:00] blood is like is next level
[1:15:01] wrong So get it together.
[1:15:01] Thank you.
[1:15:06] And to speak now on on
[1:15:07] the actual topics that I wanted
[1:15:12] to address I wanted to speak to
[1:15:12] 617 Authorization to grant
[1:15:18] easement on that property See
[1:15:19] Gene is $1 billion company
[1:15:20] multibillion dollar company
[1:15:20] the it says the city will
[1:15:24] receive 20 grand as a payment
[1:15:24] for the easement.
[1:15:25] It seems like it's way too
[1:15:26] little If there's a way that we
[1:15:30] can charge them way more I'm
[1:15:30] sure that they can afford it.
[1:15:35] That would be awesome for 614 I
[1:15:42] love this program.
[1:15:42] I think it's fantastic.
[1:15:43] I would love to see us go a
[1:15:43] step further.
[1:15:44] I think that cops should not
[1:15:48] only get psychological help and
[1:15:48] treatment as they need for ptsd
[1:15:54] but I also think that they
[1:15:54] should that we should be
[1:15:55] exploring them getting degrees
[1:16:00] in psychology so that they can
[1:16:00] make better judgment calls in
[1:16:01] the field.
[1:16:07] And I applied a blurb for
[1:16:07] speaking to that earlier this
[1:16:08] morning And I also want to back
[1:16:12] everybody that's called in
[1:16:12] asking you all to fully fund
[1:16:13] the multi-modal team.
[1:16:17] I support that 100%.
[1:16:18] >> Thank you.
[1:16:18] You're next.
[1:16:21] This one number ending in 7499
[1:16:22] If you can please join me at
[1:16:22] 7499.
[1:16:23] And please let me know which
[1:16:23] item or items you wish to speak
[1:16:30] to on the consent agenda.
[1:16:31] But because this year I'd like
[1:16:32] to address all the items but
[1:16:32] I'll be very brief.
[1:16:35] First I'd like to endorse some
[1:16:36] of the comments made by
[1:16:37] allegedly Audra and many others
[1:16:40] who continually make very good
[1:16:41] points to this council.
[1:16:42] I'd like to speak in particular
[1:16:42] and object in objection to
[1:16:46] the ongoing increases in
[1:16:47] citizen surveillance endorsed
[1:16:47] by this Council.
[1:16:51] I read George Orwell's book
[1:16:51] 1984 back in the 70s when I was
[1:16:52] still in school At that time as
[1:16:58] a young person in the year 1984
[1:16:58] seeing the long, long time in
[1:16:59] the future I remember thinking
[1:17:03] to myself that the citizen
[1:17:04] surveillance portrayed in that
[1:17:04] book could never be practical
[1:17:09] because for every camera in
[1:17:10] every room of every house and
[1:17:11] on every street there would
[1:17:11] have to be a person watching
[1:17:12] it.
[1:17:15] That would mean that you'd need
[1:17:16] at least 1 or 2 people watching
[1:17:17] every citizen That would be
[1:17:17] unsustainable.
[1:17:21] But that was before aa.
[1:17:22] aa is changing everything.
[1:17:27] I am reminded of Jack London's
[1:17:28] opening to Call of the Wild.
[1:17:29] He wrote quote I did not read
[1:17:33] the newspapers or he would have
[1:17:34] known that trouble was brewing
[1:17:34] not alone for himself but for
[1:17:39] every tidewater dog strong of
[1:17:40] muscle and with warm long hair
[1:17:41] from Puget Sound to San Diego.
[1:17:45] End quote.
[1:17:46] That's where we are right now
[1:17:51] with the more general data that
[1:17:52] we give to the more powerful it
[1:17:52] will become and the more
[1:17:57] personal data that we give to
[1:17:57] aa, the more abusive it will
[1:17:58] come become.
[1:18:02] This council needs to be very
[1:18:03] cautious about adding new eyes
[1:18:09] and ears to the ai that is
[1:18:09] growing because we won't be
[1:18:15] able to roll it back.
[1:18:15] >> Thank you.
[1:18:16] Leonard if you'd like to add
[1:18:18] new and please let me know
[1:18:19] which item or items you wish to
[1:18:26] speak to whether I can only it
[1:18:26] for you.
[1:18:26] >> Okay.
[1:18:32] There you go.
[1:18:32] Please let me know which item
[1:18:33] or items you wish to speak to.
[1:18:34] I am sorry In regards to
[1:18:37] measure b it's not an agenda.
[1:18:38] >> Can I speak on that?
[1:18:39] Can you repeat that?
[1:18:39] I'm sorry I didn't hear you
[1:18:40] correctly.
[1:18:44] I signed Measure b isn't a non
[1:18:45] agenda item.
[1:18:45] Can I speak on that?
[1:18:50] You'll have to raise your hand
[1:18:50] during an on agenda public
[1:18:51] comment which will be after
[1:18:51] this afternoon.
[1:18:55] Okay.
[1:18:56] Thank you.
[1:18:56] Thank you.
[1:18:57] Judy Strang If you can please
[1:19:02] unmute Judy.
[1:19:02] There you go.
[1:19:08] Do you know which items you
[1:19:08] wish to speak to on the consent
[1:19:09] agenda?
[1:19:09] >> Yes.
[1:19:09] Good morning.
[1:19:12] I'd like to speak to item 6 or
[1:19:12] 3 which we're meeting notes
[1:19:13] from MARCH the Monday and
[1:19:18] Tuesday meeting back in MARCH.
[1:19:19] I spoke to 80 for 55 and have
[1:19:20] been thinking about it again
[1:19:24] and of course it's on
[1:19:25] the agenda by way of comments.
[1:19:26] And so I just want to reiterate
[1:19:30] why the success of this was for
[1:19:31] the public health community.
[1:19:31] It was the first law in
[1:19:36] the nation that would require
[1:19:37] those who are selling their
[1:19:41] homes to disclose whether there
[1:19:42] had been third smoke or be
[1:19:42] contaminant in their property
[1:19:47] third hand smoke as you know,
[1:19:48] is that toxic residue that
[1:19:49] lingers long after cigarets and
[1:19:53] vaping devices are extinguished
[1:19:54] that settles into carpet walls,
[1:19:55] furniture and it can persist
[1:20:00] there for years and then off
[1:20:00] gases back into the apartment
[1:20:01] into the condo.
[1:20:05] And we of the public health
[1:20:06] community have always said our
[1:20:06] greatest concern for children
[1:20:11] because they're the closest to
[1:20:11] furniture and carpet.
[1:20:12] So we are excited about this
[1:20:12] first in the nation.
[1:20:17] It's a collaborative process.
[1:20:18] It passed with both parties in
[1:20:18] support.
[1:20:22] It shows our concern for smoke
[1:20:23] .
[1:20:23] >> Thank you.
[1:20:24] That does conclude public
[1:20:24] comment on the consent agenda.
[1:20:25] All right.
[1:20:29] Thank you, City Clerk.
[1:20:30] And before I turn over to my
[1:20:34] council colleagues here for
[1:20:35] those of you MAY have noticed,
[1:20:35] I continue to look at my phone.
[1:20:36] There's a 45 acre fire in
[1:20:40] Sorento Valley and there's been
[1:20:41] a number of evacuation orders
[1:20:46] issued to the southerly part of
[1:20:47] Tree Hills, the easterly part
[1:20:47] of Mira mesa.
[1:20:52] I would certainly encourage
[1:20:53] those folks or if you know
[1:20:53] somebody who lives there, pay
[1:20:54] attention to the fire rescue
[1:20:54] folks.
[1:20:58] They know what they're doing.
[1:20:58] They take their job very
[1:20:59] seriously.
[1:20:59] When the issue of evacuation
[1:21:00] routes hopefully everybody's
[1:21:03] safe and fire rescue and
[1:21:04] everybody that supports them
[1:21:05] will be able to put this fire
[1:21:05] out.
[1:21:09] So thank you for letting me
[1:21:10] throw that in there.
[1:21:11] And with that I will turn it
[1:21:15] over to Council member Foster
[1:21:15] Thank you.
[1:21:16] Council PRESIDENT I am going to
[1:21:17] try to keep my comments as
[1:21:22] brief as I can as I would like
[1:21:23] to cede some time and I will
[1:21:27] say this on the front end to
[1:21:28] DR. Wells I want to make sure
[1:21:28] that he has an opportunity to
[1:21:33] come to the mic.
[1:21:33] >> Okay.
[1:21:34] Thank you for that.
[1:21:35] So with that I will start with
[1:21:40] item 638 today I am just so
[1:21:40] proud to bring forward this
[1:21:45] recognition for our very own
[1:21:45] Reverend DR. Walter g.
[1:21:46] >> Wells, a man whose life and
[1:21:51] leadership have touched
[1:21:52] generations in our community.
[1:21:53] >> DR. Wells is a proud
[1:21:58] graduate of Lincoln High
[1:21:59] School, a fellow.
[1:22:00] And for more than five decades.
[1:22:04] And I'll say that again five
[1:22:04] decades he has served as pastor
[1:22:10] of the Mount Airy Baptist
[1:22:10] Church.
[1:22:15] >> 53 years of ministry, 53
[1:22:16] years serving the Lord had
[1:22:21] the calling and has stepped
[1:22:22] into that gap, accepted that
[1:22:27] path and has served
[1:22:28] consistently and has dedicated
[1:22:29] his life to our community.
[1:22:34] Thank you so much.
[1:22:35] >> But his work has always gone
[1:22:36] far beyond the walls of
[1:22:36] the church under his
[1:22:37] leadership.
[1:22:41] Mount Airy has become a place
[1:22:42] where faith, education, service
[1:22:42] and community all come
[1:22:43] together.
[1:22:47] He helped establish the Mount
[1:22:47] Airy Christian Academy,
[1:22:48] the Infinite Toddler Center,
[1:22:52] the Trolley Daycare and
[1:22:53] the Academy Preschool Center
[1:22:54] creating spaces where children
[1:22:58] could learn, grow and be cared
[1:22:59] for correctly.
[1:22:59] I always say no one will take
[1:23:04] better care of us than us.
[1:23:05] >> So thank you so much for
[1:23:05] that.
[1:23:10] DR. Wells understood early on
[1:23:11] that ministry is not only about
[1:23:12] what happens on Sunday.
[1:23:13] It's about meeting the needs of
[1:23:16] the people throughout the week
[1:23:17] supporting families, mentoring
[1:23:17] young people, educating
[1:23:18] children and building up
[1:23:22] the community around you.
[1:23:23] For decades he has poured love,
[1:23:24] wisdom and steady leadership
[1:23:28] into Lincoln Park District four
[1:23:29] and the Greater San Diego
[1:23:29] community.
[1:23:30] His legacy is seen in the lives
[1:23:34] he has helped shape,
[1:23:35] the families he has supported
[1:23:35] and the generations of leaders,
[1:23:36] believers and servants who
[1:23:40] continue to carry that work
[1:23:40] forward.
[1:23:41] >> DR. Wells your legacy is
[1:23:42] carried out in the lives you
[1:23:46] continue to shape the families
[1:23:47] you support and the community
[1:23:47] that stands stronger today
[1:23:52] because of your leadership.
[1:23:53] This honorary street naming is
[1:23:54] one small way we can say thank
[1:23:58] you for a lifetime of service,
[1:23:59] faith and commitment to our
[1:23:59] community.
[1:24:00] I am honored to bring this idea
[1:24:04] forward and I respectfully ask
[1:24:05] my colleagues to support this
[1:24:05] very, very important item.
[1:24:10] And if I can pause there
[1:24:11] quickly to allow the good
[1:24:15] Reverend DR. Walter g.
[1:24:33] >> Wells to come to the mic
[1:24:34] now.
[1:24:34] Councilmember Foster, I know
[1:24:35] when the good reverend get
[1:24:40] started it's going to be hard
[1:24:40] to stop.
[1:24:41] So how much time with you?
[1:24:42] I think I put five minutes on
[1:24:45] the clock.
[1:24:46] Council PRESIDENT You're you're
[1:24:46] welcome to use my.
[1:24:48] MAY I ask how much time do I
[1:24:55] have to our COUNCILMAN.
[1:25:00] >> COUNCILMAN Foster to all of
[1:25:01] the council representatives.
[1:25:07] Let me say how thankful I am to
[1:25:11] be recognized in such an
[1:25:12] unusual manner.
[1:25:17] I also want to say thank you
[1:25:18] for those who are here from
[1:25:23] the church where I pastor Mount
[1:25:24] Airy Baptist Church Can I get
[1:25:29] you to stand and also let me
[1:25:35] recognize all of my pastor
[1:25:36] friends who are here and also
[1:25:42] friends in the community who
[1:25:42] are here.
[1:25:43] Thank you so much for being
[1:25:47] here and to let me know just
[1:25:53] how much you do appreciate what
[1:25:54] I have been trying to do and
[1:25:59] what GOD has called me to do.
[1:26:00] I've had the privilege of
[1:26:01] living here in San Diego and I
[1:26:06] really thank and know that San
[1:26:07] Diego is the greatest city that
[1:26:11] you can live in.
[1:26:12] I had the privilege of living
[1:26:22] here since 1949 and I just
[1:26:23] don't know what I can say
[1:26:28] because I thought when my mom
[1:26:29] and I moved here I was just a
[1:26:34] little nine year old kid and I
[1:26:40] thought that we were making
[1:26:40] the biggest mistake that we
[1:26:41] could ever make in terms of
[1:26:46] coming to San Diego.
[1:26:52] But I found out that GOD had
[1:26:53] ordered my steps.
[1:26:53] >> And that's really why that's
[1:26:58] really why I'm in such a great
[1:27:03] city because no one really can
[1:27:09] do for you or for me what GOD
[1:27:09] has done because GOD works
[1:27:16] through human instrumentality.
[1:27:16] And I just want you to know
[1:27:17] COUNCILMAN And and your staff
[1:27:21] and then all of those who have
[1:27:22] given sanction to doing this
[1:27:27] for me I certainly appreciate
[1:27:28] it from the depths of my heart
[1:27:33] and I will forever be grateful
[1:27:33] .
[1:27:34] I'm also reminded of the fact
[1:27:35] that usually when something
[1:27:40] like this has done the person
[1:27:44] that's deceased and I am by
[1:27:50] the grace of GOD to get to see
[1:27:56] what GOD can do and how GOD
[1:27:57] moves at such a mysterious way
[1:27:57] as one does to Papa.
[1:28:03] Thank you so much again for
[1:28:03] allowing me to be here.
[1:28:08] And of course to allow me to
[1:28:19] have these words of expression
[1:28:20] .
[1:28:26] Thank you.
[1:28:27] >> Pastor Wilson For me as I am
[1:28:31] in this seat I felt it was
[1:28:31] important to make sure as you
[1:28:32] say, typically this happens at
[1:28:33] another time.
[1:28:37] I wanted to make sure that we
[1:28:37] recognize your service, your
[1:28:38] commitment so that you were
[1:28:43] able to be here in chambers and
[1:28:43] to say some words to our
[1:28:44] community.
[1:28:47] So one other thing that I would
[1:28:48] like to say briefly is I just
[1:28:49] want to make sure that we also
[1:28:52] recognize the first lady.
[1:28:58] >> When you took we didn't give
[1:28:59] the first lady a round of
[1:28:59] applause as well.
[1:29:04] Because I know that our good
[1:29:05] doctor Walter g.
[1:29:09] >> Wells I'm sure could not do
[1:29:10] what he is doing without
[1:29:14] the support and the first lady
[1:29:15] allowing him to serve and to be
[1:29:16] shared with the community as he
[1:29:20] is called to do the work of
[1:29:20] the Lord.
[1:29:21] So thank you so much for all
[1:29:25] that you have done as well.
[1:29:31] >> So thank you.
[1:29:31] >> And with that Council
[1:29:32] PRESIDENT, I have one more item
[1:29:37] that I do need to touch on and
[1:29:37] that is item 6 or 4.
[1:29:42] I believe that is the system
[1:29:42] that we are moving to in
[1:29:43] regards to our labor compliance
[1:29:43] system.
[1:29:47] It looks like it is on
[1:29:47] the consent agenda as well.
[1:29:48] I would like to register a no
[1:29:52] vote for that item as well as
[1:29:53] the city is moving in ending a
[1:29:58] contract in relationship with a
[1:29:59] black women a woman owned firm.
[1:30:00] And we are entering into a new
[1:30:04] agreement with a non certified
[1:30:09] firm at I believe over 100% of
[1:30:10] the cost.
[1:30:10] So we are doubling the cost.
[1:30:14] And unfortunately I just can't
[1:30:15] support removing a contract
[1:30:15] from a black woman and I'm firm
[1:30:20] that we are going to pay double
[1:30:21] the cost.
[1:30:21] So I will register a no vote
[1:30:24] for item six or for.
[1:30:25] >> And I will move the consent
[1:30:25] agenda.
[1:30:30] All right.
[1:30:30] Thank you, Councilmember
[1:30:31] Foster.
[1:30:31] So we do have a motion to move
[1:30:32] the consent items.
[1:30:35] I will jump in relatively
[1:30:35] quickly.
[1:30:41] Second, the consent items.
[1:30:42] On 638 I happen to notice that
[1:30:47] clearly the good reverend lived
[1:30:47] life being both in terms of his
[1:30:53] faith and in terms of community
[1:30:53] .
[1:30:54] So it's certainly appropriate
[1:30:54] that you've gone back on
[1:30:55] the honorary street name.
[1:30:55] So thank you Councilmember
[1:30:58] Foster for that.
[1:30:59] A lot of individuals spoke to
[1:31:00] item 6 or 5 the rmr Ave funds.
[1:31:04] This is a second reading which
[1:31:05] gives us almost no actually
[1:31:09] gives us no latitude to change
[1:31:09] it.
[1:31:10] We have been talking about
[1:31:11] tapping into this funding
[1:31:15] source as an option to fund
[1:31:16] the multi-modal team throughout
[1:31:16] our budget conversations.
[1:31:20] So to be clear, if the council
[1:31:21] takes a budget action tomorrow
[1:31:22] that utilizes this funding
[1:31:26] source, the Council will go
[1:31:27] through a second process to
[1:31:28] reallocate those funds to pick
[1:31:33] up the multimodal team and then
[1:31:33] remove some of the slurry seal
[1:31:34] that was currently in there.
[1:31:37] So we need to take an action
[1:31:38] tomorrow on that before we
[1:31:43] would amend our rtm our
[1:31:44] agreement on item 626.
[1:31:44] The Mobility Board Thank you.
[1:31:49] The District one resident Harry
[1:31:50] Baba and I see him in the back
[1:31:51] for your continued service on
[1:31:51] the mobility board and
[1:31:55] congratulations on a
[1:31:56] reappointment and thank you to
[1:31:56] everyone that is stepping up to
[1:32:00] serve the public.
[1:32:01] Item 636 a resolution affirming
[1:32:01] the city's commitment to limit
[1:32:06] greenhouse gas emissions.
[1:32:06] I brought this item to
[1:32:07] the Rules Committee in APRIL in
[1:32:08] response to the Federal
[1:32:10] Government's recent rescission
[1:32:11] of the epa's 2009 endangerment
[1:32:16] finding that 29 fun finding
[1:32:17] based on science curbed vehicle
[1:32:21] emissions and put greenhouse
[1:32:22] gas emission limits in place
[1:32:22] nationwide.
[1:32:23] This resolution is a commitment
[1:32:27] to our values, to science and
[1:32:28] standing up to stand up to
[1:32:28] those who deny climate change
[1:32:32] and its public health impacts
[1:32:33] on our communities.
[1:32:34] And without that I will second
[1:32:34] the item.
[1:32:35] So we have a motion by Council
[1:32:39] member Foster a second by
[1:32:39] myself and will go next to
[1:32:40] Council member von Boulder.
[1:32:44] Thank you very much.
[1:32:44] Equipment item 638.
[1:32:48] Pastor Well congratulations And
[1:32:48] to your First Lady.
[1:32:49] Congratulations and thank you
[1:32:50] for all you've done.
[1:32:50] It's beautiful to see you speak
[1:32:54] today.
[1:32:55] And on item 614 I want to thank
[1:32:55] the department for bringing
[1:32:59] forward the focus contract for
[1:32:59] wellness That is critically
[1:33:00] important.
[1:33:02] We continue wellness for our
[1:33:03] first responders and our
[1:33:04] lifeguards should also get
[1:33:04] access to wellness services And
[1:33:08] I hope that we're able to do
[1:33:08] that in the budget tomorrow.
[1:33:09] And then I just I do have a
[1:33:13] question for Department of
[1:33:18] Transportation folks on item
[1:33:18] 621.
[1:33:19] I if anyone is here from your
[1:33:23] station who can answer
[1:33:24] questions on item 621 which is
[1:33:27] a settlement, we're paying out
[1:33:27] $600,000 to a motorcyclist who
[1:33:28] was injured on a portion of
[1:33:29] Rancho Bernardo Road.
[1:33:32] It's Rancho Bernardo Center
[1:33:33] Drive which I have been telling
[1:33:38] the city for years has been a
[1:33:39] mess And so I know we're
[1:33:40] working on a plan to repay that
[1:33:41] but when are we going to repave
[1:33:42] it?
[1:33:43] >> Good morning.
[1:33:44] Naomi Chavez, interim director
[1:33:44] for Transportation Department.
[1:33:49] We are factoring that into our
[1:33:49] paving schedule for fiscal year
[1:33:50] 27 and that is something that
[1:33:54] we can prioritize for the first
[1:33:54] quarter of the year.
[1:33:58] >> It could be due in JULY.
[1:33:59] We can certainly look into it.
[1:33:59] Okay.
[1:34:04] I just.
[1:34:04] Between Rancho Bernardo Road
[1:34:07] and Cro-Magnon Road we paid a
[1:34:08] 600,000 out to a motorcyclist
[1:34:09] who's injured on Carl Mountain
[1:34:09] Road last year.
[1:34:12] We now paid $1.2 million in
[1:34:15] settlements on road injuries in
[1:34:15] my district.
[1:34:16] Two roads that we have been
[1:34:17] trying to tell the department
[1:34:17] are a problem.
[1:34:21] That $1.2 million could have
[1:34:22] paid for the payment for
[1:34:23] the roads And so I just don't
[1:34:26] know how to better communicate.
[1:34:27] We know our districts you know,
[1:34:31] how do we better communicate to
[1:34:32] the department before liability
[1:34:32] occurs and then once an
[1:34:36] accident does happen, why don't
[1:34:37] we instantly go and fix it so
[1:34:37] it doesn't happen again?
[1:34:42] We can have that conversation
[1:34:42] off line but it's just we need
[1:34:43] to stop the bleeding of city
[1:34:47] settlement money out the door
[1:34:47] when we're trying to raise
[1:34:48] the alarm that these roads are
[1:34:48] a mess.
[1:34:52] So thank you for working on it
[1:34:53] but I am going to push to get
[1:34:54] this fixed immediately because
[1:34:54] if another plaintiff falls
[1:34:57] they're going to be able to
[1:34:57] have a past history and
[1:34:58] the damage will be through
[1:34:58] the roof.
[1:35:03] So I'm going to work I'm going
[1:35:03] to push for JULY.
[1:35:04] Okay.
[1:35:04] Okay.
[1:35:08] Thank you very much.
[1:35:08] >> Thank you.
[1:35:09] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:35:09] All right.
[1:35:09] Thank you.
[1:35:10] Council member Yvonne Wolpert.
[1:35:13] We'll go next to Council member
[1:35:13] Whitburn.
[1:35:14] Thank you.
[1:35:14] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:35:15] I want to join my colleagues in
[1:35:18] congratulating Pastor Wells on
[1:35:18] his well-deserved order and if
[1:35:19] they could for his words in
[1:35:22] chamber this morning and I
[1:35:23] think Council member Foster for
[1:35:24] bringing the item forward this
[1:35:28] morning I want to acknowledge
[1:35:28] the concerns the downtown
[1:35:32] residents have raised about
[1:35:33] the noise exemption language in
[1:35:37] the code update noises.
[1:35:38] Consistently one of the biggest
[1:35:38] issues that my office hears
[1:35:42] about from downtown residents.
[1:35:43] This language was not intended
[1:35:43] to create a capped exemption
[1:35:47] from the noise ordinance.
[1:35:48] Permitted activities do still
[1:35:52] have to go through it establish
[1:35:53] review process that does
[1:35:53] evaluate noise impacts.
[1:35:58] That said, I would like to ask
[1:35:59] our planning director Heidi
[1:35:59] about Blab who is with us this
[1:36:02] morning if she could speak to
[1:36:02] this.
[1:36:03] >> Good morning Council member
[1:36:03] Washburn and members of
[1:36:04] the City Council.
[1:36:08] I did distribute a memo on
[1:36:09] Friday in response to concerns
[1:36:09] that we had received from both
[1:36:13] the downtown Community Planning
[1:36:13] Group as well as the community
[1:36:14] planners committee on this
[1:36:14] particular item.
[1:36:18] I do want to provide
[1:36:19] the additional clarification
[1:36:19] and certainty to this Council
[1:36:22] and members of the public that
[1:36:23] the item is not intended to
[1:36:24] exempt users from the noise
[1:36:24] regulations.
[1:36:27] Noise regulations are an
[1:36:28] important part of our land
[1:36:32] development code and land uses.
[1:36:33] And really the clarification is
[1:36:34] just of existing law and it
[1:36:38] provides a call out for
[1:36:38] instances where the city has
[1:36:39] carefully considered the use
[1:36:43] through discretionary process
[1:36:44] where noise impacts have been
[1:36:44] evaluated.
[1:36:45] >> Thank you.
[1:36:45] Thank you.
[1:36:48] So I blub.
[1:36:49] My office will stay engaged
[1:36:49] with residents and with city
[1:36:50] staff.
[1:36:53] How those protections are
[1:36:54] structured going forward.
[1:36:58] Certainly a legitimate concern
[1:36:59] .
[1:36:59] I also appreciate those who
[1:37:04] coveted the project list for
[1:37:05] the Abrade the rebate that said
[1:37:06] rehabilitation account funds.
[1:37:06] As I mentioned during our
[1:37:08] budget hearing on Friday, I
[1:37:09] share the view that we should
[1:37:10] restore the multimodal team to
[1:37:13] the budget.
[1:37:14] Like Council PRESIDENT LaCava I
[1:37:14] don't want to do that.
[1:37:19] The item that is in front of us
[1:37:20] is the Council PRESIDENT.
[1:37:20] This is the second reading of
[1:37:23] this item and it includes
[1:37:24] the implementation of the speed
[1:37:28] management plan which has
[1:37:29] funding for the city wide
[1:37:30] reduction of posted speed
[1:37:30] limits which is also very
[1:37:31] important to making streets
[1:37:34] safer for pedestrians and
[1:37:34] bicyclists.
[1:37:35] Since this is the second
[1:37:36] reading of the item, if we were
[1:37:39] to change it today we'd have to
[1:37:40] go back to the first reading.
[1:37:40] I don't want to hold all this
[1:37:43] up So as the Council PRESIDENT
[1:37:44] Mentioned, there's still that
[1:37:44] opportunity in the budget
[1:37:45] conversation to restore
[1:37:48] the multimodal team if that is
[1:37:49] the will of my colleagues.
[1:37:49] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:37:50] All right.
[1:37:50] Thank you.
[1:37:52] Council member Whitburn.
[1:37:53] And we'll go next to Council
[1:37:54] Member Campo.
[1:37:54] Thank you very much.
[1:37:55] Council PRESIDENT Just want to
[1:37:58] reiterate an agreement with
[1:37:58] what you pointed out about
[1:37:59] the armor issue as well as
[1:38:00] Councilmember Weyburn in full
[1:38:03] agreement with you there.
[1:38:03] Obviously technicality of
[1:38:04] getting this done today has to
[1:38:04] move forward.
[1:38:07] But I'm 1,000% behind what you
[1:38:08] pointed out.
[1:38:11] Furthermore, on item 642
[1:38:12] council PRESIDENT My sincere
[1:38:13] thank you for what you've done
[1:38:16] and you to Councilmember
[1:38:17] Whitburn on 642.
[1:38:17] That concludes my comments.
[1:38:18] All right Thank you Council
[1:38:20] member camp We'll go next to
[1:38:21] council member Eli Rivera.
[1:38:22] >> All right.
[1:38:22] Thank you.
[1:38:25] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:38:26] I'll start by thanking
[1:38:31] Councilmember Foster for
[1:38:32] bringing forward the street
[1:38:32] renaming.
[1:38:33] I do really appreciate that you
[1:38:34] did the timing.
[1:38:36] I think about, you know, one of
[1:38:36] the street renaming.
[1:38:40] So we did in my district and
[1:38:41] how nice it would have been for
[1:38:45] that person to hear the words
[1:38:50] and so well-deserved Pastor and
[1:38:51] I'm glad that the timing worked
[1:38:51] out in this sort of way.
[1:38:54] Thank you for having
[1:38:55] the intentionality to do that
[1:38:55] and the way that you've done
[1:39:00] And then I want to express my
[1:39:05] appreciation for the advocates
[1:39:05] .
[1:39:09] Related to item 6o5I said it
[1:39:09] last week I'll say it again You
[1:39:10] know we're being pulled in a
[1:39:11] lot of directions here and
[1:39:15] oftentimes the tension between
[1:39:20] wanting to fund important work
[1:39:25] and being willing to ask folks
[1:39:26] to resource that work makes it
[1:39:30] very difficult to bridge that
[1:39:30] gap.
[1:39:31] And in this case we had some
[1:39:35] advocates and folks here at
[1:39:36] the city who continue to work
[1:39:39] for ways to find creative
[1:39:40] solutions to use existing
[1:39:44] resources to do to do important
[1:39:45] work to keep our streets safe.
[1:39:46] It doesn't mean it doesn't come
[1:39:49] without tradeoffs, but we're
[1:39:50] being, I think very transparent
[1:39:51] on what those tradeoffs are.
[1:39:54] So Council PRESIDENT Thank you
[1:39:54] for statements you've made.
[1:39:59] I'm glad to hear councilmembers
[1:40:00] Whitburn and Campo are also on
[1:40:00] the same page.
[1:40:04] And again I think just a tip of
[1:40:04] the cap to the creativity there
[1:40:08] And again with the willingness
[1:40:08] to to recognize that there are
[1:40:13] some tradeoffs because that's
[1:40:14] that's where that's where we're
[1:40:14] at.
[1:40:15] Until we have more resources,
[1:40:17] there's going to continue to be
[1:40:18] very challenging tradeoffs.
[1:40:19] That concludes my comments.
[1:40:19] Thank you.
[1:40:20] Council PRESIDENT.
[1:40:20] All right.
[1:40:23] Thank you, Council member Eli
[1:40:23] Rivera.
[1:40:24] And we'll go next to Council
[1:40:24] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee, then
[1:40:28] Council PRESIDENT And and thank
[1:40:29] you for mentioning fire in
[1:40:29] front of alley as we're both
[1:40:32] dealing with those evacuations
[1:40:33] at the moment I do want to take
[1:40:37] the moment to congratulate
[1:40:37] Pastor Wells but also on
[1:40:38] turnout of the community to
[1:40:42] help celebrate that as well.
[1:40:43] So imagine the opportunity when
[1:40:43] you actually unveil it will be
[1:40:46] a significant one in
[1:40:47] the community And thanks to my
[1:40:48] colleague Councilmember Foster
[1:40:52] for for making this special I
[1:40:56] just briefly wanted to note on
[1:40:57] item 626 a reappointment to
[1:40:58] the Mobility Board of Jeff
[1:41:01] Stosic from University City and
[1:41:02] congratulate him on his
[1:41:02] reappointment, thank him for
[1:41:05] his service.
[1:41:06] He's been a university city
[1:41:07] resident for over 30 years.
[1:41:10] I've been a very active
[1:41:10] committee member and has really
[1:41:11] advocated for public
[1:41:15] transportation and mobility and
[1:41:16] we appreciate his service on
[1:41:16] that board.
[1:41:17] So thank you.
[1:41:21] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[1:41:21] Thank you.
[1:41:22] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[1:41:24] not see anyone else in the life
[1:41:25] We do have a motion by council
[1:41:26] member Foster a second by
[1:41:30] myself to move the consent
[1:41:30] items.
[1:41:31] Clerk please call the roll I'm
[1:41:32] sorry The voting system Please
[1:41:42] cast your vote That does pass
[1:41:42] unanimously with Council
[1:41:45] District four voting no on item
[1:41:45] six so four.
[1:41:46] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:41:47] All right.
[1:41:47] Thank you.
[1:41:50] City Clerk.
[1:41:51] And with that we will now take
[1:41:51] up our morning discussion
[1:41:55] agenda.
[1:41:56] >> clerk Please introduce item
[1:41:59] 628.
[1:42:00] Item 628 is the Pro housing
[1:42:00] designation program application
[1:42:04] If you'd like to speak on this
[1:42:05] item please be sure to submit
[1:42:06] Your speaker slips to the front
[1:42:09] of the room into the clear box
[1:42:09] .
[1:42:10] And if you are participating
[1:42:11] remotely now's the time to
[1:42:13] raise your hand by pressing
[1:42:14] Star nine or the raise your
[1:42:14] hand icon.
[1:42:15] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:42:15] All right.
[1:42:24] Thank you.
[1:42:25] Want to take a little moment
[1:43:14] Let the crowd
[1:43:14] recognize it For
[1:43:17] what it's worth.
[1:43:22] Did you get that?
[1:43:22] All right.
[1:43:26] Now that we got the slide deck
[1:43:27] up.
[1:43:27] Staff please introduce
[1:43:28] yourselves for the record and
[1:43:32] let us know how much time you
[1:43:32] need for your presentation.
[1:43:33] >> Good morning.
[1:43:36] Council members.
[1:43:36] We should only need about five
[1:43:37] minutes for our presentation.
[1:43:41] All right, When you're ready.
[1:43:42] My name is Melissa Garcia and
[1:43:42] I'm a senior planner with
[1:43:43] the city Planning Department.
[1:43:46] Today I'm joined by Special
[1:43:47] Need deputy director with
[1:43:47] the City Planning Department
[1:43:50] and Heidi Von Blum, city
[1:43:51] planning director.
[1:43:51] Today we're here to present
[1:43:53] the pro housing designation an
[1:43:58] application the California
[1:43:58] Department of Housing and
[1:43:59] Community Development or h cd
[1:44:03] created a pro housing
[1:44:03] designation program to promote
[1:44:04] housing development and
[1:44:08] acknowledge jurisdictions that
[1:44:08] go above and beyond state
[1:44:09] housing law.
[1:44:13] The program provides incentives
[1:44:13] to cities and counties in
[1:44:14] the form of additional points
[1:44:18] and preference in the scoring
[1:44:18] of competitive housing,
[1:44:19] community development and
[1:44:22] infrastructure programs Pro
[1:44:23] housing cities get additional
[1:44:23] application points for several
[1:44:24] state funding programs
[1:44:27] including the Affordable
[1:44:28] Housing and Sustainable
[1:44:29] Communities Grant the infill
[1:44:32] infrastructure grant
[1:44:32] Transformative climate
[1:44:33] Communities solutions for
[1:44:36] congested Corridors, Local
[1:44:37] Partnership Program Transit and
[1:44:42] inner city rail capital Program
[1:44:42] and a sustainable
[1:44:43] transportation planning grant
[1:44:43] program.
[1:44:47] Sandag also provides benefits
[1:44:47] to pro housing cities in their
[1:44:51] grant award process including
[1:44:52] guaranteed points in the pro
[1:44:52] housing section of competitive
[1:44:56] grant applications for
[1:44:57] the Smart Growth Incentive
[1:44:57] Program and the Active
[1:44:58] Transportation Grant Program.
[1:45:01] The pro housing designation is
[1:45:02] also required for certain state
[1:45:06] grants like the upcoming
[1:45:06] seventh round of the Homeless
[1:45:07] Housing Assistance and
[1:45:10] Prevention Program.
[1:45:11] To be eligible to receive
[1:45:12] the pro housing designation.
[1:45:16] The city must have a certified
[1:45:16] general plan housing element.
[1:45:17] The city's housing element was
[1:45:21] certified by hcd in SEPTEMBER
[1:45:21] 2021.
[1:45:25] The city must also submit an
[1:45:26] application to hpd explaining
[1:45:27] its programs and policies that
[1:45:30] promote home development.
[1:45:31] The city received the pro
[1:45:34] housing designation in 2020 to
[1:45:35] and with one of the first
[1:45:36] cities in the state to receive
[1:45:36] the designation.
[1:45:40] However, the city is required
[1:45:41] to reapply in order to maintain
[1:45:44] its designation.
[1:45:45] The pro housing application has
[1:45:46] four categories for pro housing
[1:45:49] policies favorable zoning and
[1:45:50] land use.
[1:45:50] Acceleration of housing
[1:45:54] production timeframes.
[1:45:55] Reduction of construction and
[1:45:55] development costs and providing
[1:45:58] financial subsidies.
[1:45:59] A total of 30 points is needed
[1:46:00] to obtain a pro housing
[1:46:04] designation and the city's
[1:46:04] draft application contains a
[1:46:07] total of 67 points.
[1:46:08] Points included are attributed
[1:46:12] to several of the city's pro
[1:46:13] housing home incentive programs
[1:46:14] like complete communities,
[1:46:17] affordable homes and all
[1:46:18] communities and the numerous
[1:46:19] programs adopted in the housing
[1:46:19] action packages.
[1:46:22] Additional points are awarded
[1:46:23] for streamlined approvals,
[1:46:27] parking standards and home
[1:46:27] funding and assistance programs
[1:46:28] like the San Diego Housing
[1:46:31] Trust Fund, Affordable housing
[1:46:32] Preservation Fund and
[1:46:36] the Rental Assistance Program.
[1:46:37] The Pro housing designation
[1:46:38] application requires the city
[1:46:42] to conduct public outreach as
[1:46:42] part of the process to fulfill
[1:46:43] this requirement.
[1:46:46] A draft Web page was created to
[1:46:47] inform the public of this
[1:46:48] effort and gather input on a
[1:46:51] and the draft application and
[1:46:52] an email notification was sent
[1:46:52] out.
[1:46:53] The Planning Department
[1:46:56] requested input on the draft
[1:46:57] application and the public and
[1:46:58] this public City Council
[1:47:01] hearing is also part of
[1:47:02] the required public
[1:47:02] participation.
[1:47:05] Any comments received will be
[1:47:06] considered when drafting
[1:47:06] the final application.
[1:47:10] The next steps in this process
[1:47:11] include collecting all public
[1:47:11] input received from this
[1:47:15] process including any comments
[1:47:16] from this hearing.
[1:47:16] Finalizing the Application.
[1:47:21] Submitting the application to
[1:47:22] hd hd has 60 days to review
[1:47:25] the application once it's
[1:47:25] received.
[1:47:26] Following the 60 days hd hd
[1:47:30] will notify the city if
[1:47:30] additional edits to
[1:47:31] the application are needed or
[1:47:34] if certification is granted.
[1:47:35] Staff's recommendation is to
[1:47:36] approve the proposed action to
[1:47:40] submit an application for pro
[1:47:40] housing designation.
[1:47:44] Authorize the Mayor or designee
[1:47:45] to enter into, execute and
[1:47:45] deliver all documents required
[1:47:48] to participate in the pro
[1:47:49] housing designation program and
[1:47:50] acknowledge that the city is in
[1:47:53] compliance with applicable
[1:47:54] state law and will refrain from
[1:47:55] taking action to inhibit or
[1:47:58] constrain housing production
[1:47:59] and will commit to
[1:47:59] affirmatively furthering fair
[1:48:00] housing.
[1:48:00] That concludes staff's
[1:48:03] presentation.
[1:48:04] >> We're available to answer
[1:48:04] questions.
[1:48:05] Thank you.
[1:48:05] All right.
[1:48:08] Thank you for the presentation
[1:48:09] .
[1:48:09] >> clerk Please proceed with
[1:48:10] public comment.
[1:48:10] Thank you.
[1:48:14] Can I have Joyce Senator
[1:48:15] Allegedly Audra and Max
[1:48:15] Schmidt.
[1:48:18] Max Schmidt, please come up to
[1:48:18] the yellow reserved seats.
[1:48:23] Joey, we'll start with you.
[1:48:24] >> Probably very short.
[1:48:24] I think it's one sentence
[1:48:28] profiles saying big yes to
[1:48:33] anything in support of Hap A.P.
[1:48:34] Funding from the state.
[1:48:34] Got to get it.
[1:48:38] Got to have it in place long
[1:48:38] term Ongoing.
[1:48:42] And a big thank you to
[1:48:43] the Planning Department Heidi.
[1:48:47] >> I just did Heidi.
[1:48:48] Isn't she something else?
[1:48:52] She's just I'm adding time but
[1:48:53] I just had to say that I'm just
[1:48:56] amazed by her brilliance.
[1:48:57] And what would we do without
[1:48:58] her really?
[1:49:02] So thank you very much.
[1:49:02] >> Yes.
[1:49:02] Yes.
[1:49:03] Thank you.
[1:49:10] Allegedly Audra.
[1:49:11] >> It'd be nice if you guys
[1:49:16] really provided housing.
[1:49:16] It's crazy.
[1:49:17] You guys will go through hoops
[1:49:17] to get funding.
[1:49:20] As long as you follow policies
[1:49:21] and procedures which looks like
[1:49:25] you're like doing the right
[1:49:25] thing but you're failing
[1:49:26] miserably And who's determining
[1:49:30] what's affordable Because I
[1:49:30] mean people already tell you
[1:49:31] when they come in here I mean
[1:49:34] they're just trying to survive
[1:49:34] while you guys you know, up
[1:49:35] the taxes on anything or fees
[1:49:39] or more parking or whatever it
[1:49:40] is And it's like you know
[1:49:40] there's that's just the way
[1:49:44] the government works though.
[1:49:45] And it's sad because people
[1:49:46] actually think that you guys
[1:49:49] are good stewards of our money
[1:49:50] that you're not you know, just
[1:49:54] trying to follow a policy.
[1:49:55] Well, the policy should be that
[1:49:56] you provide affordable housing
[1:49:59] and if you like affordable
[1:50:00] housing is like being
[1:50:00] determined by somebody who's
[1:50:01] defining what a woman is.
[1:50:05] It's like I mean you can just
[1:50:05] say it's affordable all you
[1:50:06] want.
[1:50:06] It doesn't mean it really has
[1:50:09] to be but it's just sad because
[1:50:10] it's like you you know, you
[1:50:14] want to create your plan and
[1:50:14] you say we have this program
[1:50:15] but then it's like you just you
[1:50:19] just go outside and you see I
[1:50:19] mean literally outside
[1:50:20] the chamber you guys walk over
[1:50:23] them at night.
[1:50:24] I mean some people go give them
[1:50:28] food but it's like it's kind of
[1:50:29] just like an eyesore like oh my
[1:50:30] GOD, let's get to my car.
[1:50:32] So I mean that should be in
[1:50:33] itself a telltale sign that you
[1:50:37] guys are failing because it's
[1:50:38] not housing for all All of us.
[1:50:38] All of us.
[1:50:42] I mean you say that and again,
[1:50:43] they're just words that you use
[1:50:44] But I mean let's actually do
[1:50:47] that.
[1:50:52] >> You know I mean instead of
[1:50:52] contracting with people like
[1:50:57] Dreams for Change and that
[1:50:58] people would die before they
[1:51:02] get out of Tent City.
[1:51:03] I mean just the way you guys
[1:51:06] treat the homeless, it's that I
[1:51:07] mean again, people will die on
[1:51:08] these steps and yet we're
[1:51:11] creating housing for all.
[1:51:12] >> As long as you guys get that
[1:51:13] money right then it can go to
[1:51:13] your friends.
[1:51:14] Good job.
[1:51:19] Max Schmidt.
[1:51:23] Hi.
[1:51:24] I'm proposing to spend more tax
[1:51:28] dollars on housing.
[1:51:29] Affordable housing for
[1:51:29] the homeless and whatnot is an
[1:51:33] extremely, extremely, extremely
[1:51:34] personal issue for me because I
[1:51:38] lived in subsidized housing and
[1:51:39] during that time I kid you not
[1:51:43] I'm here to open Pandora's box.
[1:51:48] I was targeted by Freemasons
[1:51:49] and some call it mind control.
[1:51:49] What exactly does that mean?
[1:51:53] And I want to say one thing You
[1:51:54] will not silence my voice by
[1:51:55] calling me a schizophrenic or
[1:51:57] mentally ill and that this
[1:51:58] isn't happening to American
[1:51:59] patriots because it is what
[1:51:59] happened when I was living in
[1:52:02] the subsidized apartments was
[1:52:03] that there was a constant ever
[1:52:08] present voice that was saying
[1:52:12] literally antagonizing me,
[1:52:17] patronizing me, mocking me,
[1:52:22] accusing me of things
[1:52:23] constantly nonstop in my
[1:52:26] apartment.
[1:52:27] So the apartments are
[1:52:27] untenable.
[1:52:32] This is a serious problem.
[1:52:32] >> Liberal cities are targeting
[1:52:33] American patriots And yes, I
[1:52:37] walk with patriot groups.
[1:52:37] Yes, I stand up to people's
[1:52:38] militia.
[1:52:40] They're targeting American
[1:52:41] patriots and the possessed and
[1:52:45] the demon possessed liberal
[1:52:46] politicians in San Diego are
[1:52:51] enabling it and working with
[1:52:51] them.
[1:52:52] They're all Masonic brothers
[1:52:55] and their Masonic brothers
[1:52:56] abroad and that's why they want
[1:52:59] to create a one world
[1:53:00] government and Satan is
[1:53:04] commanding them to do this.
[1:53:04] So I know about a cult group
[1:53:05] rituals.
[1:53:05] I know about teleporting, I
[1:53:08] know about cannibalism in
[1:53:09] the Masonic Lodge you will not
[1:53:13] silence my voice with 5150 laws
[1:53:13] because they are communist and
[1:53:14] the First Amendment still lives
[1:53:17] in this country Down with
[1:53:17] the occult.
[1:53:19] I'm not crazy Town with
[1:53:25] the echo Thank you.
[1:53:26] Going to those participating
[1:53:27] remotely as are the five minute
[1:53:29] timer Hector if you can please.
[1:53:30] And you currently have three
[1:53:34] speakers in the queue please
[1:53:34] proceed.
[1:53:35] Thank you.
[1:53:36] Thanks a lot for taking my
[1:53:36] call.
[1:53:39] Hey, the state is is is
[1:53:39] democratic tyranny.
[1:53:44] I would we don't need to be
[1:53:45] linked with the state in a war
[1:53:46] in my neighborhood And Linda
[1:53:49] this Stop the hill from Mission
[1:53:53] Valley 15 a news are coming on
[1:53:54] board They're almost finished
[1:53:57] now One block to houses they're
[1:53:58] out in 1580 use under the old
[1:54:02] program that the state planned
[1:54:06] out and slipped it in there and
[1:54:06] they haven't moved in yet But
[1:54:07] all of a sudden there's going
[1:54:10] to be 30 cars on one block and
[1:54:10] there's no parking at all.
[1:54:15] And also we've had an influx of
[1:54:15] apartment buildings being built
[1:54:19] like crazy in mission Valley
[1:54:20] and Linda Vista up the hill
[1:54:21] where the fires were we might
[1:54:24] have another 4000 units that
[1:54:24] are available.
[1:54:29] Are there going to be really
[1:54:29] soon And they're building No,
[1:54:30] they're not affordable and
[1:54:34] they're not occupied.
[1:54:35] You know there's not a big run
[1:54:35] through some people in there
[1:54:39] but there's thousands units
[1:54:44] already available and maybe
[1:54:44] with the guys that built them
[1:54:45] have them if you don't occupy
[1:54:48] the units within six months
[1:54:52] the rent is 500 bucks a month
[1:54:53] That would occupy you know,
[1:54:57] that would be really legitimate
[1:54:57] .
[1:54:58] We don't know more state stuff.
[1:55:02] We don't need Let the builders
[1:55:03] build their own houses and
[1:55:07] let's do the mass deepwater
[1:55:07] nation.
[1:55:11] If we deported 150,000 people
[1:55:12] to live in San Diego County
[1:55:12] illegally, there'd be a lot
[1:55:13] less.
[1:55:16] There'd be huge housing
[1:55:17] available, affordable housing
[1:55:21] there'd be competition for
[1:55:21] rent.
[1:55:26] So if we mass deportation now
[1:55:26] at the convention center we
[1:55:27] could get paid for it.
[1:55:31] It'll be a reverse reverse.
[1:55:36] You know Occupy they got to go
[1:55:36] ,man Let's do it.
[1:55:37] Okay.
[1:55:37] My next is Tony.
[1:55:42] If you can please unmute.
[1:55:43] Yes.
[1:55:47] Can you hear me?
[1:55:48] >> Yes, we can.
[1:55:48] Please proceed.
[1:55:49] Hey, how's it going?
[1:55:49] City Council.
[1:55:52] Hey, I just wanted to talk
[1:55:52] about the article that was
[1:55:53] released yesterday by the Times
[1:55:58] of San Diego that was talking
[1:55:58] about the license plate reader
[1:55:59] that linked an innocent San
[1:56:03] Diego man to a violent crime
[1:56:03] that he was five miles away
[1:56:04] from.
[1:56:07] I would hope that all of y'all
[1:56:08] would take a look at that
[1:56:08] article and become familiar
[1:56:11] with it and read it because
[1:56:12] there's going to be a lot of
[1:56:13] people showing up tomorrow that
[1:56:14] are going to be talking about
[1:56:14] it and you'll want to have it
[1:56:17] as a reference point too For
[1:56:17] those of you that are going to
[1:56:18] be defending flock, you're
[1:56:21] going to want to dissect that
[1:56:22] article so that you can have
[1:56:23] something to rebut And there
[1:56:27] really is nothing This is
[1:56:27] the second week in a row or
[1:56:28] rather the second time in
[1:56:31] the last month that we've seen
[1:56:32] Flock has completely failed If
[1:56:36] it was having an audition it
[1:56:39] would have lost its job already
[1:56:40] because it failed two weeks ago
[1:56:41] when it sent police to
[1:56:44] the shopping center and they
[1:56:45] took over two hours to respond
[1:56:46] to the shooting that happened
[1:56:50] at the Islamic center And then
[1:56:51] it's mailed this man back in
[1:56:53] NOVEMBER of 2025 actually just
[1:56:54] a couple of weeks before we had
[1:56:57] the big meeting about it And if
[1:56:58] we had known that this had
[1:56:59] happened back then, it probably
[1:57:03] maybe hopefully would have
[1:57:03] affected the council's decision
[1:57:04] and the choice to vote the way
[1:57:04] that it did.
[1:57:08] Marni von Wilpert you just
[1:57:09] expressed concern about
[1:57:11] the potholes and the 1.5
[1:57:12] million or that the million
[1:57:12] dollar settlement by those
[1:57:16] roads not getting fixed.
[1:57:16] Well guess what?
[1:57:17] These two gentlemen who were
[1:57:21] falsely arrested by this flock
[1:57:25] Alper misreading by they're
[1:57:26] both charging the city they're
[1:57:28] both suing the city for 1.5
[1:57:29] million each.
[1:57:29] Right.
[1:57:30] And that's more than the entire
[1:57:33] cost of the flock contract for
[1:57:34] this year which was supposed to
[1:57:35] be 2 million And they're going
[1:57:38] to get it because they were
[1:57:39] falsely imprisoned.
[1:57:39] One of them was falsely
[1:57:40] imprisoned for over a month.
[1:57:45] He spent Thanksgiving in jail
[1:57:46] without his family because of
[1:57:46] this misread misread
[1:57:52] calculation by fluke We need to
[1:57:53] cancel the contract.
[1:57:53] >> Your time has concluded.
[1:57:54] Blair Beakman If you can please
[1:57:56] unmute after that our final
[1:57:56] speaker is 7499.
[1:58:00] >> Blair Hi Blair Beakman I
[1:58:01] wanted to comment Thank you
[1:58:05] much for this item but I think
[1:58:06] I think there really can be a
[1:58:10] way to develop a dialog with
[1:58:10] the federal level on the future
[1:58:11] of housing.
[1:58:14] They always make it difficult
[1:58:19] and it's just the nature of
[1:58:20] Conservative party right wing
[1:58:20] Republican practices But there
[1:58:24] is ways that we can be working
[1:58:25] on things that we can and what
[1:58:28] this item can be doing.
[1:58:29] The mayor when he just recently
[1:58:33] became PRESIDENT Of the us
[1:58:34] mayors conferences, mayors or
[1:58:38] association whatever they are
[1:58:39] he gave a speech He's
[1:58:40] the leader now and he made a
[1:58:43] speech that it's important that
[1:58:44] we talk with our federal
[1:58:48] agencies on housing and what we
[1:58:48] can accomplish And I was really
[1:58:49] impressed by that because man,
[1:58:52] it's my feeling exactly.
[1:58:53] I've been in the same place
[1:58:54] actually.
[1:58:57] So boy good luck that I think
[1:58:58] there is ways that we can
[1:58:58] address the future of housing
[1:59:02] that is kind of been on
[1:59:03] the uprights I've heard
[1:59:07] actually in California So I
[1:59:07] hope that can bring in
[1:59:08] the concepts of middle income
[1:59:09] housing and how much I think
[1:59:12] what that really I mean there's
[1:59:13] a many ways in what that can
[1:59:16] really accomplish And for for
[1:59:17] very low and extremely low
[1:59:18] income housing how that is
[1:59:21] hopeful and as long as we're
[1:59:22] thinking of those two subjects
[1:59:23] as the base of our future of
[1:59:27] housing, then we're in a good
[1:59:27] place.
[1:59:28] And for our federal leaders to
[1:59:31] understand that concept, man
[1:59:32] that would be a lot And I think
[1:59:33] we can do it.
[1:59:36] And by doing that that's
[1:59:37] building our sustainable
[1:59:37] future.
[1:59:41] Good luck in our efforts.
[1:59:41] >> Thank you.
[1:59:41] Thank you.
[1:59:42] And our final speaker is 7499
[1:59:51] If you can please unmute Bob
[1:59:51] because I ski here.
[1:59:54] I just want to endorse
[1:59:55] the earlier comments opposing
[1:59:55] surveillance and about
[1:59:59] the deportation of illegal
[2:00:00] citizens In particular it's
[2:00:01] clear that our housing problem
[2:00:05] could be greatly reduced by
[2:00:05] deporting people who are here
[2:00:06] against our laws.
[2:00:06] However it's important for
[2:00:10] citizens to realize that
[2:00:11] the goals of this council and
[2:00:14] of this mayor are not the same
[2:00:15] as the goals of the citizens.
[2:00:19] The council and the mayor want
[2:00:20] more population in San Diego
[2:00:21] because that makes them more
[2:00:24] important and more powerful.
[2:00:25] >> They don't really care about
[2:00:26] what the citizens actually want
[2:00:30] like thinking.
[2:00:30] >> That concludes public
[2:00:31] comment on this item.
[2:00:31] All right.
[2:00:34] Thank you, City clerk.
[2:00:35] With that will go to
[2:00:36] the council for questions
[2:00:39] Comments entertain a motion and
[2:00:40] we'll start with the chair of
[2:00:40] the Land Use and Housing
[2:00:41] Committee Council PRESIDENT Pro
[2:00:44] Tem Lee then council PRESIDENT
[2:00:44] Thank you to Heidi and
[2:00:45] the entire city planning
[2:00:45] department since our last pro
[2:00:48] housing designation in NOVEMBER
[2:00:49] of 2022 Our annual housing
[2:00:50] report shows that we've made
[2:00:54] progress in our arena goals.
[2:00:55] We've continued to pass out
[2:00:58] proposing policies and continue
[2:00:59] to affirmatively further fair
[2:00:59] housing as well.
[2:01:03] Applying from this continued
[2:01:04] designation from the state
[2:01:04] signifies our commitment to
[2:01:05] expand our capacity to make
[2:01:08] more homes available for our
[2:01:08] working families, students,
[2:01:09] seniors and our most vulnerable
[2:01:09] residents.
[2:01:13] And from there I think we can
[2:01:14] all recognize that we
[2:01:14] continuously have more work to
[2:01:15] do in order to translate that
[2:01:18] capacity into actual housing
[2:01:19] production as well as and
[2:01:19] continue to find ways in which
[2:01:23] we can lower costs that
[2:01:23] ultimately lower whether it's
[2:01:28] rental or housing purchases and
[2:01:28] costs for residents.
[2:01:29] As the chair of land use and
[2:01:30] housing, I look forward to
[2:01:32] continue to work with my
[2:01:33] colleagues this year to move
[2:01:34] that needle forward.
[2:01:34] And with that I will move
[2:01:35] the item.
[2:01:35] Thank you.
[2:01:37] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[2:01:38] >> Thank you.
[2:01:39] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem.
[2:01:39] So we do have a motion by
[2:01:42] the pro tem to move the item
[2:01:43] and we'll go next to council
[2:01:43] member Whitburn.
[2:01:44] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[2:01:44] Thank you.
[2:01:49] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[2:01:49] for your comments.
[2:01:50] I think you Tube is about blood
[2:01:51] and the Planning Department for
[2:01:52] the presentation and all
[2:01:53] the work that you do for
[2:01:53] the city.
[2:01:54] This designation is important
[2:01:55] because it gives the city
[2:01:58] access to pro housing grades,
[2:01:58] additional points and scoring
[2:01:59] of competitive housing
[2:02:02] community development and
[2:02:03] infrastructure applications
[2:02:04] appropriates and other state
[2:02:09] grant programs And I am happy
[2:02:09] to second the motion.
[2:02:10] All right.
[2:02:10] Thank you Council member with
[2:02:11] parents or we do have a motion
[2:02:13] by the council PRESIDENT Pro
[2:02:13] Tem Lee and the second by
[2:02:14] Council whitburn to move
[2:02:17] the item and we'll go next to
[2:02:18] Council member Campo Thank you.
[2:02:19] Council PRESIDENT I want to
[2:02:19] thank our planning department
[2:02:22] for the good work on this.
[2:02:22] This is something I really
[2:02:23] strongly support.
[2:02:24] I've seen this designation
[2:02:27] yield funding for housing that
[2:02:27] was built.
[2:02:28] Linda Vista For seniors that's
[2:02:28] really, really important for
[2:02:32] communities like Linda Vista.
[2:02:32] But just from a basic point of
[2:02:36] view, why wouldn't San Diegans
[2:02:37] want more of their tax dollars
[2:02:37] coming back down to serve
[2:02:41] the needs we have in San Diego
[2:02:42] at the bottom line?
[2:02:42] That isn't a win for all of us
[2:02:43] So I thank them for their good
[2:02:44] work on this and I'm happy to
[2:02:46] be in support.
[2:02:47] All right.
[2:02:48] Thank you Council member Campo.
[2:02:48] We'll go next to Council member
[2:02:51] Foster Oh yes, Thank you.
[2:02:55] >> Council PRESIDENT And I will
[2:02:56] be supportive of this item as I
[2:03:00] do feel that housing is a
[2:03:01] critical critical need and
[2:03:02] everyone should have a place
[2:03:06] that they call home in a place
[2:03:06] that they are proud of And we
[2:03:10] have work to do.
[2:03:10] But I just want to just say as
[2:03:15] we continue to move forward I
[2:03:15] just want to make sure and
[2:03:16] touch upon the things that I
[2:03:19] have concerns about.
[2:03:20] One, making sure that we are
[2:03:24] continuing to make sure we're
[2:03:25] staying engaged with
[2:03:25] the community.
[2:03:26] i think there's a lot of things
[2:03:29] that we can do in regards to
[2:03:30] our communication efforts, our
[2:03:30] education efforts to do a
[2:03:33] better job with with
[2:03:34] communities Also I just want to
[2:03:38] make sure we got a balanced
[2:03:38] approach as we continue to move
[2:03:39] forward.
[2:03:40] I want to make sure that we are
[2:03:43] not concentrating poverty
[2:03:43] especially in a community such
[2:03:47] as District four.
[2:03:48] I want to make sure that we get
[2:03:49] some guardrails in and and that
[2:03:52] we are doing our best job to
[2:03:57] make sure we're just making
[2:03:57] sure we are achieving that That
[2:04:01] balance also I must say I'm
[2:04:02] also concerned just about
[2:04:06] the product that we get in
[2:04:07] District four I received a call
[2:04:12] from dsd saying that there's a
[2:04:16] project that is potentially
[2:04:17] coming online where units are
[2:04:20] less than 200ft.
[2:04:21] I'm not understanding how we
[2:04:25] are looking at allowing that
[2:04:29] type of product especially in
[2:04:30] certain communities in certain
[2:04:30] areas.
[2:04:35] So I just want to make sure
[2:04:36] that we're putting our best
[2:04:36] foot forward as we are continue
[2:04:40] to meet the call.
[2:04:41] I mean to make sure that folks
[2:04:44] have a place that they call
[2:04:45] home that safe and that they
[2:04:48] have that sense of pride.
[2:04:49] So we definitely have work to
[2:04:50] do but I will be supportive of
[2:04:54] this item today.
[2:04:54] So thank you.
[2:04:55] All right.
[2:04:55] Thank you, Councilmember Foster
[2:04:59] Not see me but he else in
[2:04:59] the lights.
[2:05:00] I'll have some quick thoughts
[2:05:01] of course will be supportive of
[2:05:03] this and I appreciate
[2:05:04] Councilmember Campos doing
[2:05:04] the math that says when we're
[2:05:05] sending tax dollars to
[2:05:08] Sacramento and Washington dc,
[2:05:09] let's clear as much of that
[2:05:12] back to help our residents and
[2:05:17] our businesses So yeah, this is
[2:05:18] a pretty straight forward one
[2:05:22] And to the public comment, you
[2:05:22] know we're not meeting
[2:05:23] the needs of all San Diego is
[2:05:24] with our housing I think we're
[2:05:27] pulling every lever that we
[2:05:28] have at our disposal and some
[2:05:31] of those lovers are tied by
[2:05:32] what Sacramento's
[2:05:33] interpretation of how housing
[2:05:37] should be delivered.
[2:05:38] But I think we're pulling every
[2:05:38] lever.
[2:05:38] I think that's one of
[2:05:39] the reasons that the city of
[2:05:41] San Diego is recognized
[2:05:42] statewide as a leader in
[2:05:46] housing going forward we are a
[2:05:46] little bit at the mercy for
[2:05:47] lack of a better word about
[2:05:48] what private development
[2:05:51] chooses to do and how private
[2:05:51] development chooses to
[2:05:56] advertise their products.
[2:05:57] They get to use the word
[2:05:57] affordable with a lowercase a
[2:05:58] all the time.
[2:06:01] I think we take it very
[2:06:01] seriously about designating
[2:06:02] housing with a capital that is
[2:06:06] truly affordable with well
[2:06:07] understood metrics Are we
[2:06:07] delivering enough?
[2:06:11] Now we all know that.
[2:06:12] We all recognize that Are we
[2:06:12] delivering enough at moderate
[2:06:15] income now we all know that But
[2:06:16] I know the Planning Department
[2:06:17] works every day to try to get
[2:06:20] creative to figure out how we
[2:06:20] can deliver more of those
[2:06:21] products at those price points,
[2:06:25] how we do our community plan
[2:06:25] updates and trying to
[2:06:29] accelerate those community plan
[2:06:30] updates that I think as we said
[2:06:34] at a previous meeting housing
[2:06:35] is good, planning is good And
[2:06:35] as Councilmember Foster said
[2:06:39] that balance is what we're I
[2:06:40] think constantly trying to do
[2:06:44] private marketplace will do
[2:06:45] what the private marketplace is
[2:06:46] going to do but to degree that
[2:06:49] we can influence good planning,
[2:06:50] good products that meets
[2:06:54] the needs of San Diego and I
[2:06:55] think we are doing our job.
[2:06:56] But yeah, we're not meeting
[2:06:56] everyone and we're all set And
[2:06:59] if some we have to say it out
[2:07:00] loud every once in a while I'm
[2:07:01] happy to be the one to do that.
[2:07:04] So with that we have a motion
[2:07:04] by Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
[2:07:05] Lee and a second by Council
[2:07:08] member Whitburn Please call
[2:07:09] the roll as the voting system.
[2:07:13] >> Please cast your vote that
[2:07:18] passes unanimously 9 to 0.
[2:07:19] Thank you.
[2:07:19] All right.
[2:07:20] Thank you, city clerk And thank
[2:07:20] you to the Planning department
[2:07:23] and the mayor's office for
[2:07:23] bringing this item forward.
[2:07:24] So with that we will now take
[2:07:28] up not agenda public comment.
[2:07:29] The council members respect and
[2:07:29] appreciate the public's input
[2:07:32] and are fully committed to
[2:07:33] protecting every participant's
[2:07:34] free speech rights at council
[2:07:37] and committee meetings and
[2:07:38] again have a respectful request
[2:07:43] to my colleagues It is noon I
[2:07:43] don't know how many folks we
[2:07:48] have lined up but what are some
[2:07:48] we're going to leave early
[2:07:51] Let's all the fort with at
[2:07:51] least four of us including
[2:07:52] myself that would make five
[2:07:56] through that public knowledge
[2:07:56] and a public comment period.
[2:07:57] So with that clerk please
[2:08:01] proceed with public comment.
[2:08:02] >> Thank you.
[2:08:03] And just to note we have four
[2:08:05] in person and nine currently
[2:08:05] with their hands raised in
[2:08:09] the queue starting with Jacob
[2:08:09] Lewis.
[2:08:10] Jacob Lewis I do not see him
[2:08:10] here.
[2:08:15] Max Schmidt if you can please
[2:08:15] come up to the microphone After
[2:08:17] that will be joined Senator and
[2:08:22] then allegedly address You'll
[2:08:23] have two minutes Please proceed
[2:08:27] on.
[2:08:28] I just wanted I just wanted to
[2:08:32] say a lot of people have given
[2:08:33] the ultimate sacrifice for this
[2:08:38] country on and for me not to
[2:08:42] have mental freedom Is is an
[2:08:43] embarrassment to the United
[2:08:43] States.
[2:08:47] The American flag and the San
[2:08:48] Diego city government.
[2:08:49] You know who I am.
[2:08:53] You know, I walk around San
[2:08:53] Diego public streets and people
[2:08:57] stalk me constantly and they're
[2:08:58] telepathic Freemasons.
[2:08:58] I can say my thoughts out loud
[2:09:02] and endlessly terrorize me by
[2:09:03] doing this.
[2:09:03] You know that they do that You
[2:09:06] know what's going on.
[2:09:07] >> And then when I naively and
[2:09:08] foolishly went to the police
[2:09:12] for help because I am kind of
[2:09:12] an innocent person where I
[2:09:13] didn't know what to do, I felt
[2:09:14] like a prisoner of war to be
[2:09:17] honest.
[2:09:20] The police 5150 me Oh then 5250
[2:09:21] me and I had to leave the state
[2:09:21] to not get an anti-psychotic
[2:09:25] injection and became homeless
[2:09:26] And you know what's going on
[2:09:30] And I will not capitulate to
[2:09:31] the New World Order.
[2:09:35] i will continue to expose them
[2:09:36] by saying they don't like me
[2:09:40] talking about that the majority
[2:09:41] of the West coast is
[2:09:41] reincarnating.
[2:09:45] Communist Freemasons were sane
[2:09:46] and commanding them to form a
[2:09:46] one world government and that
[2:09:47] they're also literally
[2:09:50] teleporting.
[2:09:50] These people do not drive cars.
[2:09:51] The majority of people on
[2:09:55] the West Coast teleporter found
[2:09:56] that's how potent or whatever
[2:09:56] you want to call it demonic
[2:10:02] diabolical is a cult group
[2:10:03] Rituals are we're in
[2:10:03] the Masonic Lodge.
[2:10:04] They're worshiping Satan to
[2:10:05] such a degree that they're
[2:10:06] doing human sacrifices.
[2:10:09] These people are actually
[2:10:09] possessed by the devil.
[2:10:10] They literally teleport around
[2:10:13] like demons And my voice will
[2:10:14] not be silenced And you're not
[2:10:15] going to call me schizophrenic
[2:10:16] or crazy again because I'm not
[2:10:19] stupid.
[2:10:20] I know what's going on and you
[2:10:21] know that when I walk around
[2:10:21] San Diego public streets I'm
[2:10:24] getting harassed and the cops
[2:10:25] are corrupt and enabling it
[2:10:29] down with the occult thinking.
[2:10:30] Next we have to rise and yada
[2:10:31] I'm sorry I did.
[2:10:31] I note for the record that if
[2:10:32] you are online now is the time
[2:10:34] to raise your hand by pressing
[2:10:35] the raise your hand icon or
[2:10:37] calling participant star nine
[2:10:38] If you're wanting to knowledge
[2:10:39] in a public comment virtually
[2:10:39] We do have some Spanish
[2:10:46] speakers on the q see as they
[2:10:47] stay in linea you get a lot of
[2:10:48] sovereigns windows can not in
[2:10:51] like in the what if our Optima
[2:10:51] is three and we're all econo de
[2:10:52] la Moneta Armory.
[2:10:52] Gracias.
[2:10:53] Please proceed.
[2:10:56] Thank you.
[2:10:57] A little bit ago I left
[2:11:01] the chambers and I went around
[2:11:02] for a walk around the block.
[2:11:05] I needed that.
[2:11:06] I guess What I saw the sun.
[2:11:10] The sun was shining The sky was
[2:11:11] that beautiful blue There was a
[2:11:15] little breeze blowing.
[2:11:16] There were people walking dogs.
[2:11:20] There was a homeless person
[2:11:20] sitting in a wheelchair And
[2:11:22] suddenly I had a question for
[2:11:28] myself What are you fighting
[2:11:32] for?
[2:11:37] What am I fighting for?
[2:11:42] So the top priority is that I
[2:11:43] am fighting for our voices
[2:11:49] being heard and respected.
[2:11:50] This is storytelling.
[2:11:55] The two d Tours marketing
[2:11:55] district said this very
[2:11:59] recently that how they do their
[2:12:03] marketing is via storytelling.
[2:12:08] All our work is storytelling
[2:12:13] and we do an ancient ritual
[2:12:14] that goes back to the beginning
[2:12:18] of people.
[2:12:22] We sit around a bonfire and we
[2:12:23] tell our stories together.
[2:12:27] This is the work of all of us
[2:12:28] to tell our stories because we
[2:12:32] must remember that the miracle
[2:12:41] of life, the miracle of life is
[2:12:47] unfolding before our very eyes.
[2:12:47] We are it.
[2:12:52] We are alive and it is a
[2:12:56] miracle And let us never forget
[2:12:57] that.
[2:12:57] >> Love to all Thank you.
[2:13:06] Allegedly Audra It's
[2:13:10] interesting because everything
[2:13:11] has to do with good and evil
[2:13:12] And for those of you that
[2:13:15] believe would know that if you
[2:13:20] really did read the Bible and
[2:13:20] you understood that since
[2:13:21] the beginning of time there has
[2:13:25] been a spiritual warfare going
[2:13:25] on.
[2:13:26] That's why Ephesians six is so
[2:13:29] important for us to put on
[2:13:30] the form or GOD because we
[2:13:31] fight not just against flesh
[2:13:32] and blood but against spiritual
[2:13:35] wickedness.
[2:13:36] And so four things that Max is
[2:13:36] saying those those are very
[2:13:40] true things.
[2:13:41] There are Freemasons, there are
[2:13:44] elite, there are people in
[2:13:45] the Illuminati who sacrifice
[2:13:45] children human beings.
[2:13:49] They drink blood, they eat
[2:13:50] people, they do satanic abuse
[2:13:54] rituals.
[2:13:55] San Diego is a very, very
[2:13:59] prominent stomping ground for
[2:13:59] that And they think the kind of
[2:14:00] technologies that he's talking
[2:14:04] about they can put words into
[2:14:04] your brain.
[2:14:05] I mean it's the voice of GOD.
[2:14:05] There's many different
[2:14:09] technologies and they do M.K.
[2:14:09] Ultra, you know, mind control
[2:14:10] on people.
[2:14:14] So it's like he sounds like
[2:14:14] Looney Tunes of course, but
[2:14:18] those are things that that do
[2:14:19] take place And it's like when
[2:14:20] we have you know, officers like
[2:14:23] Mick Gibbons, you know, and
[2:14:24] the child pornography it's like
[2:14:27] America's the biggest consumers
[2:14:28] of child porn.
[2:14:31] I mean Tim Tebow found 338,000
[2:14:32] ip addresses that were just
[2:14:37] single ones that were
[2:14:38] transmitting this kind of data
[2:14:38] children.
[2:14:41] So I mean you guys have
[2:14:42] children.
[2:14:42] It's like nobody wants to talk
[2:14:43] about these things and that's
[2:14:47] why they perpetuate is because
[2:14:48] we sit here and we brush it
[2:14:48] under the rug.
[2:14:51] That's too crazy to talk about
[2:14:52] But this is why the world is
[2:14:53] like it is.
[2:14:56] People do sacrifice and worship
[2:14:57] Satan and that's why such
[2:15:00] nefarious things can take place
[2:15:00] .
[2:15:01] >> And I would say that you
[2:15:02] guys are on a lower level of
[2:15:06] that but you're being puppeteer
[2:15:06] by those people and you're
[2:15:07] doing their bidding and you're
[2:15:09] brushing it all under the rug
[2:15:14] And that is extremely egregious
[2:15:14] .
[2:15:15] That does conclude public
[2:15:15] comment here in council
[2:15:16] chambers.
[2:15:16] We're going to go to those
[2:15:19] participating remotely.
[2:15:20] We have funny a squirrel
[2:15:23] fantasy podria reality
[2:15:33] laboratory in Boulder as called
[2:15:33] chocolate say okay no my by
[2:15:39] the Iraqis we probably have a
[2:15:39] lot in process quarters
[2:15:40] proposal here at Radio City
[2:15:41] like what I'm into okay grass
[2:15:45] is real Malik boy like got a
[2:15:49] bizarre bird on it when a staff
[2:15:53] member for the San Diego is
[2:15:54] funny is cute It is Good
[2:15:54] afternoon council members My
[2:15:58] name is Fannie Esquivel MR.
[2:15:59] Yaki I play a key common member
[2:16:05] of the community that you and
[2:16:05] I'm a member Occupy that right
[2:16:08] I'm here as a member of a
[2:16:08] committee of my community and
[2:16:12] as a worried mother about trash
[2:16:13] about the state of trash,
[2:16:14] the products that
[2:16:17] the Pakistanis perceive us in
[2:16:17] the best scenario and about
[2:16:19] tobacco shops that are within
[2:16:28] my community see senior of
[2:16:29] course see that yes this is
[2:16:30] area my my community members
[2:16:31] and my children are having to
[2:16:31] see the cigaret butts
[2:16:36] everywhere who are corner.
[2:16:39] Yes And they pick them up to
[2:16:40] play with them So I can only
[2:16:44] catina one other active There
[2:16:45] are children that are touching
[2:16:48] nicotine which is an active
[2:16:49] drug issues monitors is
[2:16:54] important see and their and
[2:16:54] their hands and their clothes
[2:16:59] are full of that nicotine and
[2:16:59] the tobacco and consumer
[2:17:08] tobacco It is to the stage of
[2:17:08] self isn't see I normally
[2:17:09] father is somewhat studying
[2:17:10] the consumption of cigarets and
[2:17:10] nicotine and that discarding
[2:17:12] them on the street has become a
[2:17:13] regular has become regularly
[2:17:20] accepted and that is not okay
[2:17:21] and look at the podium see
[2:17:23] square where we will constantly
[2:17:24] interpret occupy that they're
[2:17:27] still in contact as toxic air
[2:17:27] Instead of being able to relax
[2:17:28] as my kids play outside I have
[2:17:32] to be constantly concerned that
[2:17:33] they are outside playing with a
[2:17:37] toxic substance not turning on
[2:17:38] medicine or therefore that
[2:17:43] illness partially seguros is
[2:17:44] what they in Panama City was
[2:17:45] for me to sell tobacco My
[2:17:47] children deserve to be able to
[2:17:48] play in a space that is free
[2:17:51] and safe free of tobacco.
[2:17:57] They very esteem associate you
[2:17:57] must up for your partner
[2:18:03] partner in a company that is
[2:18:03] the only company to incorporate
[2:18:04] Podemos solution That is
[2:18:05] the problem we need more
[2:18:06] information and more support
[2:18:07] for the community in order to
[2:18:11] address the situation.
[2:18:11] The candidate of the center,
[2:18:16] the product of the tobacco is
[2:18:16] produced from medical marijuana
[2:18:17] and to plug in with a company
[2:18:20] that the amount of trash that
[2:18:20] is nicotine related that is out
[2:18:24] on the streets is something
[2:18:25] that is too much to be able to
[2:18:25] handle that needs to be
[2:18:32] addressed and care for my son.
[2:18:32] Patel Programmer Damian David
[2:18:37] must execute Responsabilidad as
[2:18:37] grandiose company Well I
[2:18:38] understand that is a
[2:18:39] responsibility of each of us
[2:18:40] and the responsibility of
[2:18:40] the city.
[2:18:41] We need to make sure that we
[2:18:44] hold the bigger tobacco
[2:18:44] companies accountable and make
[2:18:49] them responsible as well as
[2:18:50] e-commerce system programmers
[2:18:50] parallel cities But I think
[2:18:56] better we see color products of
[2:19:00] bacteria societies We have to I
[2:19:01] must implement that program of
[2:19:01] ballot equality that is
[2:19:04] declared process say tobacco
[2:19:05] just like we have programs that
[2:19:07] are made to actually recycle
[2:19:07] toxic substances such as oils
[2:19:08] and batteries and things of
[2:19:09] that nature.
[2:19:12] We should also have a recycling
[2:19:12] program for these toxic
[2:19:19] substances of the nicotine in
[2:19:20] cigarets like community could
[2:19:23] get and also glimmer criminal
[2:19:24] potency model as granted
[2:19:26] companion star calories.
[2:19:27] The community is insisting that
[2:19:28] you put us in our safety on top
[2:19:31] of the as more important than
[2:19:32] the tobacco companies and
[2:19:37] the tobacco conglomerates and
[2:19:38] he goes represent that When I
[2:19:39] see what that Limpia say what
[2:19:43] are you familiar I've seen in
[2:19:43] politics politics attorneys not
[2:19:48] represent a system that you
[2:19:49] must get to a crisis point so
[2:19:52] people can good ideas.
[2:19:53] There's a reason Coca-Cola is
[2:19:53] with the eponymous but at that
[2:19:56] I mean that we say that we are
[2:19:57] a clean and a safe and a good
[2:20:00] city but that is not reflected
[2:20:01] in the way that our streets are
[2:20:01] taken care of.
[2:20:02] I ask for your support in
[2:20:04] getting this address that I
[2:20:07] just ask you Given crisis Tony
[2:20:12] if you can please unmute that
[2:20:17] also does conclude the five
[2:20:18] minute timer We have 11 people
[2:20:20] in the queue 12 Nobody else
[2:20:21] will be taken.
[2:20:25] Tony please proceed.
[2:20:26] >> Yes.
[2:20:26] Can you hear me?
[2:20:27] Yes.
[2:20:27] Please proceed.
[2:20:31] Hey, my apologies for
[2:20:31] the earlier comment about Flock
[2:20:32] a pr I was meaning to leave
[2:20:33] that comment during this
[2:20:35] portion and I don't mean to be
[2:20:36] a hypocrite in calling out
[2:20:39] earlier other people that leave
[2:20:40] comments that aren't related to
[2:20:45] the agenda topics So my
[2:20:45] apologies.
[2:20:45] That was my error.
[2:20:46] That was my mistake.
[2:20:50] But getting back to I guess
[2:20:50] that the housing element
[2:20:51] earlier the thing that y'all
[2:20:55] were voting on I, I don't think
[2:20:55] I would have been in support of
[2:20:58] it anyway just because I don't
[2:20:59] know that Todd Gloria is
[2:21:03] necessarily somebody that I
[2:21:04] would trust with the housing
[2:21:08] development process If if I
[2:21:09] understand correctly that's
[2:21:09] what the if that's what
[2:21:10] the issue was about.
[2:21:14] But I'm not entirely sure if
[2:21:15] I'm addressing that with
[2:21:18] the full subject knowledge that
[2:21:19] I should be in order to be
[2:21:19] speaking on it.
[2:21:23] But with that said, I'd like to
[2:21:23] just finish what I was saying
[2:21:24] earlier about Flock Alper and
[2:21:28] the article that I was
[2:21:28] referring to.
[2:21:29] I will try to send in a copy
[2:21:33] tomorrow so that you all can
[2:21:33] see it And when I'm speaking I
[2:21:34] think I think that's done
[2:21:38] through the city Clerk Well I
[2:21:39] think that's what I have to do
[2:21:43] in order to send it in But I'll
[2:21:44] look it up online in just a
[2:21:44] moment.
[2:21:48] But the article on I just I
[2:21:48] just wanted to speak to
[2:21:52] the fact that the like like I
[2:21:52] was saying those two
[2:21:57] settlements or rather the two
[2:21:58] lawsuits the two the two suits
[2:22:01] that have been filed are for
[2:22:02] 1.5 million each.
[2:22:05] That's more than flock is is
[2:22:06] the contract costs for
[2:22:11] the entire year.
[2:22:12] I know that we see it as a
[2:22:12] force multiplier.
[2:22:14] I know that we see ourselves
[2:22:15] being 100 police short.
[2:22:15] But I'm really questioning
[2:22:16] where those numbers come from
[2:22:19] considering they are statistics
[2:22:20] that are based upon comparing
[2:22:24] us to other cities that have a
[2:22:25] comparative population size But
[2:22:29] those other cities have higher
[2:22:29] crime rates so those are not
[2:22:30] analogous.
[2:22:32] >> Your time has concluded.
[2:22:33] >> Barbara Gordon If you can
[2:22:37] please unmute.
[2:22:38] Good afternoon.
[2:22:38] As a health advocate mental
[2:22:42] health services are vital
[2:22:42] especially for individuals with
[2:22:46] justice involvement many due to
[2:22:47] substance abuse.
[2:22:51] I wanted to share with you
[2:22:56] sandbags 2025 Juvenile arrestee
[2:22:56] Drug Use report.
[2:22:57] This is a self report reported
[2:23:01] by juveniles who have been
[2:23:01] arrested.
[2:23:02] Marijuana continues to be
[2:23:06] the most popular drug used
[2:23:07] consistent with previous years.
[2:23:10] Marijuana at 93% was the most
[2:23:15] commonly used substance among
[2:23:15] those interviewed.
[2:23:16] Youth were asked about recent
[2:23:20] drug use of marijuana and it
[2:23:24] showed that the percentage use
[2:23:25] was 73% used with it in
[2:23:25] the past 30 days.
[2:23:30] Most of those had used
[2:23:31] marijuana but they perceived it
[2:23:34] as harmless.
[2:23:35] When asked about the ease of
[2:23:39] assessing certain substances,
[2:23:40] most described marijuana as
[2:23:45] very easy or easy to obtain.
[2:23:45] Again, youth perception of
[2:23:49] marijuana is that it's easier
[2:23:50] to obtain than both tobacco or
[2:23:50] alcohol.
[2:23:54] This report underscores
[2:23:55] the risk of the city's
[2:23:59] widespread marketing of
[2:23:59] marijuana whether it's through
[2:24:00] billboards, storefronts
[2:24:04] advertise advertisement or
[2:24:04] signage.
[2:24:08] The accessibility and available
[2:24:09] city of marijuana is
[2:24:10] unparalleled compared to other
[2:24:14] drugs in the city.
[2:24:14] When Cities League leaders
[2:24:18] advocate for more pot shot, it
[2:24:18] makes our society less safe.
[2:24:23] People do not make their best
[2:24:24] decisions when they are high or
[2:24:24] .
[2:24:27] Please stop putting profits
[2:24:28] ahead of young people's health
[2:24:33] and safety.
[2:24:34] Thank you for letting me speak.
[2:24:34] Thank you.
[2:24:35] Kathleen Lippert, if you can
[2:24:39] please unmute.
[2:24:40] >> Thank you.
[2:24:40] Good afternoon Council.
[2:24:45] I want to thanks and you are to
[2:24:46] Escobar for her wise comments
[2:24:49] and concerns regarding tobacco
[2:24:50] related products and the degree
[2:24:50] and the harms that they pose
[2:24:54] for children.
[2:24:54] But I wanted to speak about
[2:24:55] parks and recreational
[2:24:59] activities for youth that are
[2:24:59] essential.
[2:25:00] >> One of those recreational
[2:25:03] resources it's a service soccer
[2:25:04] fields of Del Mar.
[2:25:05] But the city continues to
[2:25:08] ignore its responsibility to
[2:25:09] enforce the deed restrictions
[2:25:13] adopted in 2016 when the city
[2:25:17] entered a 28 year lease with
[2:25:18] surf sports effectively ending
[2:25:22] two years of peaceful rural
[2:25:22] equestrian use.
[2:25:23] Since 2016 the frequency and
[2:25:27] size of the activities and
[2:25:28] events on this land have grown
[2:25:29] exponentially.
[2:25:33] Request to the city to adhere
[2:25:33] to the restrictions of
[2:25:37] the grant deed are ignored by
[2:25:38] the city and serve restoring
[2:25:39] the peace, tranquility and
[2:25:42] rural character of
[2:25:43] the community and access to a
[2:25:47] local resource for passive
[2:25:47] noncommercial recreational use
[2:25:51] Walking hiking birdwatching are
[2:25:55] no longer possible Service
[2:25:56] exorbitant $20 a day Fees to
[2:26:00] watch children play Soccer is a
[2:26:00] barrier to access for low
[2:26:01] income families but it also is
[2:26:05] onerous for middle income
[2:26:05] families.
[2:26:06] The city faces a lawsuit for
[2:26:10] failing to honor these grant
[2:26:10] deed restrictions that bar
[2:26:14] large assemblies of people and
[2:26:19] cars 2500 a day are now on
[2:26:19] event weekends and limit
[2:26:24] the use of of property to 25
[2:26:24] days a year.
[2:26:29] >> Thank you to council member
[2:26:29] Yvonne Wilpert for your common
[2:26:30] sense recognition that fixing
[2:26:34] roads preventatively can stop
[2:26:38] the litigation subsequent
[2:26:39] litigation when these roads
[2:26:44] have not been that not been
[2:26:45] fixed but they have been
[2:26:46] identified.
[2:26:46] >> Thank you for has concluded
[2:26:49] by big If you can please
[2:26:49] unmute.
[2:26:49] >> Hi Blaire Beekman.
[2:26:53] Thanks for the morning meeting
[2:26:53] today.
[2:26:57] A real good luck that you know
[2:26:57] I started coming to public
[2:26:58] meetings because you know I've
[2:27:02] been so I was so shocked by
[2:27:03] the events of 911 and the fact
[2:27:04] that we don't ever know how to
[2:27:07] talk about it more openly and
[2:27:08] accountably what MAY have
[2:27:11] actually happened on that day.
[2:27:12] You know, when tech policies
[2:27:13] came around tech accountability
[2:27:14] it to me it was a really
[2:27:17] important way to practice how
[2:27:17] we can eventually talk about
[2:27:18] peace and not war.
[2:27:21] Good luck to the people who are
[2:27:22] talking at this time and how
[2:27:23] you know in the importance of
[2:27:26] their items.
[2:27:27] >> The free speech is
[2:27:27] important.
[2:27:28] Believing them is important
[2:27:31] understanding their point of
[2:27:31] view.
[2:27:32] I think you can get a lot of
[2:27:33] support from council persons
[2:27:36] but also respecting the decorum
[2:27:37] of a public meeting process and
[2:27:39] learning to balance those two
[2:27:39] things.
[2:27:40] Good luck how we all try to do
[2:27:41] that.
[2:27:44] I have to do that with my
[2:27:44] issues.
[2:27:45] I can go through the tear my
[2:27:45] teeth out.
[2:27:49] You know how shocking to think
[2:27:50] the day of 911 was But I try to
[2:27:51] do it working within day to day
[2:27:54] policies.
[2:27:55] You guys have had a lot of
[2:27:55] patience with me trying to
[2:27:56] practice that and learn that
[2:27:58] and thank you and I hope that
[2:27:59] it can be good advice for
[2:28:00] the new people who are talking
[2:28:03] at this time how they can learn
[2:28:04] to balance their feelings.
[2:28:08] With that said, I'm dealing a
[2:28:09] lot with the Alpers issues
[2:28:09] right now.
[2:28:10] I think everyone is in San
[2:28:13] Diego Really Good luck.
[2:28:14] The city of Oakland After Trump
[2:28:17] first got into office it was
[2:28:18] either the Oakland police,
[2:28:19] the sheriff's department or
[2:28:19] the bart police.
[2:28:23] They started jumping on the bus
[2:28:23] on the busses and taking out
[2:28:27] criminals like they had
[2:28:28] the technology that allowed
[2:28:32] them to know exactly where
[2:28:32] criminals were and they were
[2:28:33] just plucking them out of
[2:28:34] everywhere And it was really
[2:28:37] questionable how they were
[2:28:37] doing that and that seemed
[2:28:38] illegal And so they stopped
[2:28:42] doing that and I think that's
[2:28:42] what San Diego police and
[2:28:43] parents are trying to address.
[2:28:47] What is legal in their work
[2:28:48] with their lpr use and how do
[2:28:48] we have that conversation
[2:28:52] openly and clearly to
[2:28:53] understand guidelines You're
[2:28:53] talking concluded Hector.
[2:28:59] >> If you can please unmute.
[2:29:00] Thanks for taking my call.
[2:29:00] I wanted to talk about
[2:29:04] the Tijuana sewer problem
[2:29:04] that's never seems to be going
[2:29:05] away and Mexico is not our
[2:29:09] friend.
[2:29:10] They've imported millions of
[2:29:14] pounds of dope and killed
[2:29:14] 400,000 of our young people.
[2:29:18] Right now they're spending $1
[2:29:19] billion in Tijuana on elevated
[2:29:24] highway two and they're not
[2:29:25] taking care of their sewer
[2:29:25] treatment plant.
[2:29:29] They're spending a building
[2:29:29] billion on a deepwater port in
[2:29:34] the Gulf of California near
[2:29:34] there.
[2:29:34] They're going to start
[2:29:35] importing a lot of stuff there.
[2:29:38] They're building a competition
[2:29:38] to the Panama Canal with China
[2:29:43] down there in Panama to build
[2:29:44] rail lines and to deep water
[2:29:44] ports.
[2:29:47] You're spending $10 billion
[2:29:47] with the Chinese.
[2:29:51] They're criminal buddy who are
[2:29:52] importing all the drugs.
[2:29:56] So we need to focus on
[2:29:56] the Tijuana River problem,
[2:30:01] build our own sewer plants,
[2:30:02] steady the air and we'll have a
[2:30:06] tariff on Mexico.
[2:30:06] Trump's got tariffs on them.
[2:30:07] We'll take tariff money to
[2:30:07] build it.
[2:30:10] Don't kid yourself.
[2:30:11] Mexico is not our friend with
[2:30:11] being friends with those guys.
[2:30:15] They're polluting the young
[2:30:15] kids lungs.
[2:30:20] We don't need to study no more
[2:30:21] about the Tijuana River Valley.
[2:30:21] That's a waste of money
[2:30:24] studying And anyone wants to
[2:30:25] study and make them go swimming
[2:30:28] down there.
[2:30:29] And also any kind of pro border
[2:30:34] stuff with those guys it's over
[2:30:34] until they fix their sewer
[2:30:35] problem.
[2:30:39] But we can fix us.
[2:30:39] Stay in the yard sewer
[2:30:43] treatment plant on our side of
[2:30:44] the border.
[2:30:44] Use the land, use the will do
[2:30:48] the mining and then we'll build
[2:30:48] it will charge them will charge
[2:30:52] them off by $10 to come across
[2:30:53] the border.
[2:30:57] We just got to be done with one
[2:30:57] problem at a time.
[2:30:58] And otherwise it's never going
[2:31:03] to get solved.
[2:31:03] >> Okay.
[2:31:04] Your time has concluded.
[2:31:05] John Stump our next speaker
[2:31:06] after that is pretty strange on
[2:31:07] the stump.
[2:31:11] >> Please proceed.
[2:31:11] I cannot.
[2:31:12] There you go.
[2:31:16] Hey, there I go.
[2:31:17] >> Well, I was really
[2:31:21] disappointed.
[2:31:26] >> Item 613 an Initially I
[2:31:26] thought maybe these speakers
[2:31:31] who are talking about
[2:31:36] the different conspiracies just
[2:31:39] got something right that maybe
[2:31:45] maybe it is drinking blood an
[2:31:49] oath to Satan or something that
[2:31:50] guides his counsel.
[2:31:51] But of course I don't think
[2:31:54] I've gone that far.
[2:31:55] >> Luckily the other lesson of
[2:31:59] today's council meeting is if
[2:32:00] you don't do things right and
[2:32:05] you don't get on top of it, you
[2:32:09] pay millions of dollars in
[2:32:09] court settlements.
[2:32:10] And that's the beauty of
[2:32:12] the Constitution The us
[2:32:17] Constitution.
[2:32:18] They divided the government
[2:32:21] into three parts an executive,
[2:32:25] a legislative and judicial.
[2:32:26] And thank GOD for the judicial
[2:32:27] because it gives us an
[2:32:31] opportunity when the executive
[2:32:35] and the legislature don't
[2:32:36] listen to the citizens and
[2:32:40] the concerns of the citizens an
[2:32:45] opportunity of where to proceed
[2:32:46] and maybe get justice.
[2:32:50] >> So I hope that the council
[2:32:55] fully funds the liability fund.
[2:32:56] i hope the council fully funds
[2:33:01] the flood damage from 2024
[2:33:06] During the budget hearings.
[2:33:07] And I wish you all a very good
[2:33:07] day.
[2:33:12] And I want to say hi to
[2:33:12] the senator.
[2:33:15] She supported one of
[2:33:16] the settlements and recognized
[2:33:21] the judicial system.
[2:33:22] >> Sorry your time has expired.
[2:33:23] Judy Strang if you can please
[2:33:25] unmute.
[2:33:26] >> After that is Peggy Walker.
[2:33:27] Judy Strain.
[2:33:30] Yes, Good afternoon.
[2:33:31] I've been speculating on
[2:33:36] the defeat of Prop eight
[2:33:36] measure on the ballot as many
[2:33:40] media outlets have.
[2:33:41] And I would remind us all that
[2:33:45] within the city of San Diego 24
[2:33:50] to 25% of the voters identify
[2:33:50] as independent.
[2:33:51] And that percentage gets
[2:33:51] considerably higher in
[2:33:55] the unincorporated area of
[2:33:58] the county up to as much as
[2:33:59] 3,435%.
[2:34:00] So I'm wondering if we have a
[2:34:04] good understanding of what
[2:34:04] the public wants.
[2:34:05] You hear from a portion of
[2:34:09] the public expressing their
[2:34:09] concerns.
[2:34:10] I'm wondering if the lack of
[2:34:14] attendance at city council
[2:34:15] meeting some indication that
[2:34:19] perhaps you're missing work.
[2:34:20] We need to tell you what we
[2:34:20] care about.
[2:34:24] I often speak to public health
[2:34:24] concerns and so I appreciated
[2:34:28] the young mother who spoke to
[2:34:29] her children picking up
[2:34:33] Cigarets in the public venue.
[2:34:34] >> And many of us have spoken
[2:34:35] to you about the role of
[2:34:39] smoking and vaping be it
[2:34:39] tobacco or marijuana.
[2:34:42] And I would hope that you'd
[2:34:43] have some appreciation for
[2:34:44] the fact that here in our
[2:34:47] county only 9% of
[2:34:48] the population smokes.
[2:34:52] It isn't a right to smoke.
[2:34:53] So when we bring to your
[2:34:54] attention that we would like
[2:34:58] our public venues to be smoke
[2:34:58] free and bakery so that you
[2:34:59] would reduce the toxic waste
[2:35:03] that occurs because of it And
[2:35:03] in an area where everything
[2:35:04] leads to the ocean it would
[2:35:07] certainly improve the quality
[2:35:08] of the water as well.
[2:35:08] I hope you're listening to us.
[2:35:12] We are not choosing sides.
[2:35:12] We're just speaking for
[2:35:13] ourselves as people who want to
[2:35:16] be healthy and really hope that
[2:35:17] everyone around us has that
[2:35:20] opportunity as well and has an
[2:35:21] opportunity to live where their
[2:35:22] air and their water is cleaner
[2:35:26] and that their air is smoke
[2:35:26] free and vape free.
[2:35:27] Thank you.
[2:35:27] Thank you.
[2:35:28] Our next speaker is Peggy
[2:35:31] Walker.
[2:35:32] >> After that is 7499.
[2:35:32] Peggy Walker please unmute.
[2:35:36] Good morning and thank you.
[2:35:36] As a public health advocate I'd
[2:35:37] like to share important
[2:35:40] information just published by
[2:35:41] the International Journal of
[2:35:45] Drug Policy which is warning
[2:35:46] policymakers of rising rates of
[2:35:49] cannabis hyper misses syndrome
[2:35:51] or c h s c h s was brought to
[2:35:55] our attention here years ago by
[2:35:56] San Diego addiction specialist
[2:36:00] DR. Ronnie Love who served with
[2:36:01] the National Office of Drug
[2:36:04] Policy.
[2:36:05] DR. Love continues to warn
[2:36:09] about rising admissions in San
[2:36:10] Diego for c.
[2:36:10] h.
[2:36:11] S which is marked by intense
[2:36:14] pain, nausea, vomiting that is
[2:36:15] often uncontrollable and
[2:36:19] screaming.
[2:36:20] This led doctor loved to call
[2:36:20] the symptoms scrambling for
[2:36:24] the vomiting and screaming
[2:36:24] symptoms.
[2:36:25] The Journal of Drug Policy
[2:36:29] Study findings showed 6% of
[2:36:33] marijuana users aged 16 to 65
[2:36:38] developed chc which demands
[2:36:38] costly E.R. Medical attention.
[2:36:42] DR. Love has surprising numbers
[2:36:43] and diagnoses processes.
[2:36:43] Take your time away from
[2:36:48] the care of other E.R. Patients
[2:36:48] following new studies on c.
[2:36:49] H.
[2:36:53] S.
[2:36:53] The Journal has called on
[2:36:57] policy makers to better educate
[2:36:58] constituents about it and to
[2:36:59] oppose efforts to increase
[2:37:03] access to today's high potency
[2:37:04] mind altering marijuana
[2:37:04] products.
[2:37:09] I urge your consideration of
[2:37:13] the Journal's suggestion that
[2:37:14] it's time to take a hard look
[2:37:14] at policies that result in
[2:37:18] rising cannabis hyperemesis
[2:37:19] syndrome cases and the high
[2:37:23] medical and social costs.
[2:37:24] Thank you.
[2:37:24] Thank you.
[2:37:27] Next 27499 if you can please
[2:37:28] unmute after that will be back.
[2:37:32] You wrote Bob Kozinski here.
[2:37:36] The problems at the Torrey
[2:37:37] Pines Glider port are
[2:37:38] continuing to this day to this
[2:37:41] very day Citizens are excluded
[2:37:42] from flying at the Torrey Pines
[2:37:43] Glider port unless they are
[2:37:46] paid members of the private
[2:37:47] organization that calls itself
[2:37:48] quote the United States hang
[2:37:50] gliding and paragliding
[2:37:51] association or use for that
[2:37:52] wouldn't be bad enough on its
[2:37:56] own.
[2:37:57] But you asserts that as a
[2:37:58] private organization it has
[2:38:01] the right to expel anyone they
[2:38:02] want for any reason they see
[2:38:02] fit.
[2:38:03] In particular, they claim that
[2:38:06] they can expel people for
[2:38:06] coming to speak to the City
[2:38:07] council and be critical of
[2:38:11] the business operating at
[2:38:12] the Torrey Pines Glider port.
[2:38:12] Is anyone on this council
[2:38:17] intelligent enough to recognize
[2:38:17] the problem with that?
[2:38:18] That's like allowing the police
[2:38:21] to jail anyone who comes to
[2:38:22] this council to be critical of
[2:38:22] the police.
[2:38:26] That's like allowing lifeguards
[2:38:27] to ban anyone from our beaches
[2:38:27] who comes to this council to
[2:38:31] complain about the lifeguard.
[2:38:32] How insane is that?
[2:38:32] You MAY wonder why so few
[2:38:36] people speak to this council
[2:38:37] about the glider port and you
[2:38:38] MAY use that as an excuse to
[2:38:38] ignore the problem.
[2:38:41] But there are so few people
[2:38:42] speaking because no one wants
[2:38:43] to be banned from using our
[2:38:46] city park just because they
[2:38:47] dare come to this council to
[2:38:47] complain about the business
[2:38:51] operating that park.
[2:38:52] My expulsion for speaking to
[2:38:52] this Council and for testifying
[2:38:56] in court should initiate a
[2:38:56] giant whistleblower retaliation
[2:39:01] investigation by the city.
[2:39:01] But instead each and every one
[2:39:02] of you look the other way.
[2:39:06] This is a big stain on each of
[2:39:07] you that should follow you
[2:39:07] throughout your careers,
[2:39:08] throughout your lives and into
[2:39:11] whatever follows this lifetime.
[2:39:12] It's time to fix this.
[2:39:15] By reactivating the Torrey
[2:39:16] Pines City Park Advisory Board
[2:39:16] and implementing a flight
[2:39:17] waiver for citizens to use our
[2:39:21] public park, we have been hang
[2:39:22] gliding under a simple one page
[2:39:25] waiver in Los Angeles since
[2:39:25] 2017.
[2:39:26] It's time to do the same for
[2:39:31] the people of San Diego.
[2:39:31] >> Thank you.
[2:39:32] Thank you Becky Rapp If you can
[2:39:34] please unmute.
[2:39:40] >> After that would be Rosa.
[2:39:40] >> Good morning.
[2:39:41] My name is Becky Rapp and I'm
[2:39:42] here today to bring awareness
[2:39:45] to the illegal products being
[2:39:45] sold in our local smoke and
[2:39:46] tobacco shops all across our
[2:39:50] city including down the street
[2:39:50] from my house.
[2:39:51] When you walk or drive by these
[2:39:56] stores you'll see bright signs
[2:39:57] promoting a drug called crape
[2:40:01] often displayed right in
[2:40:02] the front window.
[2:40:02] It is not hidden and it is not
[2:40:03] difficult to find.
[2:40:06] Kratom is a psychoactive
[2:40:06] substance with opioid like
[2:40:07] effects.
[2:40:11] According to the cdc overdose
[2:40:11] surveillance data, Kratom was
[2:40:15] involved in more than 5200
[2:40:19] overdose deaths nationwide
[2:40:19] between 2020 and 2024.
[2:40:20] To put that in perspective,
[2:40:25] this number exceeds estimates
[2:40:25] of deaths linked to crack
[2:40:26] cocaine during the height of
[2:40:30] the crack epidemic in
[2:40:30] the 1980s.
[2:40:35] Yet one became a national
[2:40:35] crisis that dominated headlines
[2:40:36] while the other is sold today
[2:40:40] and gas stations, convenience
[2:40:40] stores and smoke shops.
[2:40:41] At the same time, many of these
[2:40:45] retailers continue to sell
[2:40:46] other illegal products like
[2:40:46] candy and fruit flavored vape
[2:40:47] products as well as hemp
[2:40:51] derived thc products.
[2:40:51] The question is not whether we
[2:40:52] need more laws.
[2:40:55] The question is whether we are
[2:40:56] willing to enforce the laws we
[2:40:57] already have.
[2:40:57] Today I am asking the City
[2:41:01] Council to direct staff to
[2:41:01] provide a public report on
[2:41:02] enforcement efforts related to
[2:41:06] Kratom flavored vape products
[2:41:07] and intoxicating hemp products
[2:41:08] sold within city limits.
[2:41:12] The public deserves to know
[2:41:12] what actions are being taken
[2:41:13] and how many inspections have
[2:41:17] been conducted, how many
[2:41:18] citations have been issued and
[2:41:19] whether current enforcement is
[2:41:19] sufficient.
[2:41:22] It's time to send a message
[2:41:23] that San Diego ordinances are
[2:41:27] not suggestions they are laws
[2:41:27] and laws that will be enforced.
[2:41:28] >> Thank you.
[2:41:33] Thank you, Roseanne.
[2:41:39] You can never see the opening
[2:41:47] with asterisk sales at retail
[2:41:47] sales, huh?
[2:41:48] You see when you're currently
[2:41:51] processing people the outlet
[2:41:52] put forward in previous
[2:42:00] quarters it could see.
[2:42:01] Well I get that when when I
[2:42:01] start with members of Council
[2:42:04] on Religious Ascension.
[2:42:04] Hello.
[2:42:04] Good afternoon, members of
[2:42:05] the council.
[2:42:05] My name is Rosa Sanchez.
[2:42:10] If you or me and I'm here today
[2:42:15] as a member of the community,
[2:42:16] maybe I'm going to be in those
[2:42:20] lines to see how they almost
[2:42:21] feel imparted in one study Be
[2:42:26] that the audience in on this
[2:42:26] video to share with you
[2:42:27] something that has become part
[2:42:30] of our everyday lives And it's
[2:42:31] for me and my family members
[2:42:36] and it should not be that way.
[2:42:37] >> But I would just like to
[2:42:43] feel that only caption by that
[2:42:47] by a reporter as well as MS.
[2:42:48] But I'm familiar the bibimbap
[2:42:48] accessible.
[2:42:55] If I wanted to go before
[2:42:56] neoliberal waste caffeine
[2:42:57] policy which in contrary would
[2:42:58] be for me and is economic for
[2:42:59] many of us only accessible
[2:43:02] housing and affordable housing
[2:43:03] is the only choice for us.
[2:43:04] But it is very difficult to
[2:43:10] find housing of this nature.
[2:43:11] >> Illiteracy is one they all
[2:43:11] transform in Alexandra and
[2:43:18] struck apartment for us as he
[2:43:19] honors but it as he perceives
[2:43:20] and smoke enters our in these
[2:43:24] multi family units smoke enters
[2:43:25] our homes through the walls
[2:43:25] through the vents through
[2:43:26] the door cracks.
[2:43:30] >> I think that it's an
[2:43:35] appropriate without affecting
[2:43:35] the ability for us to feel
[2:43:36] comfortable and safe in our own
[2:43:45] homes which is the some of this
[2:43:45] gets implemented but almost as
[2:43:46] well as but I can say I even if
[2:43:47] it's completely it's not as
[2:43:55] well the antipathy opposing it
[2:43:56] what many people just think to
[2:43:57] open our windows and to let
[2:43:58] fresh air in But this does not
[2:44:05] help the situation So you and
[2:44:06] problem is it will continue to
[2:44:11] continue to enable them to
[2:44:11] develop the mantle in a way
[2:44:12] the federal funds were released
[2:44:20] in in I say their skin was too
[2:44:20] familiar.
[2:44:21] The problem is that the smoke
[2:44:22] actually stays in our homes, in
[2:44:22] our furniture, in our clothes,
[2:44:28] in the apartments and is not
[2:44:28] allowing us to actually live
[2:44:29] comfortably.
[2:44:33] >> I think I'm on a sort of
[2:44:34] course with them and to forgive
[2:44:38] them for sticking with it And
[2:44:39] just like our children's and
[2:44:40] our babies and people in our
[2:44:44] homes complain about how strong
[2:44:44] the smell of the smoke is
[2:44:51] within our homes in much of
[2:44:52] this is personality and I
[2:44:54] expect to see them constantly
[2:44:55] And and that is due to
[2:44:56] the constant constant presence
[2:45:01] of the smoke and one of
[2:45:02] familiarity I think it is
[2:45:06] conditioning simply to feel
[2:45:07] that no family should have to
[2:45:07] live in these kinds of
[2:45:08] conditions within their own
[2:45:13] home and psyche.
[2:45:13] I like it.
[2:45:18] And that's what the familiarity
[2:45:19] is that we are asking that you
[2:45:20] support an ordinance that makes
[2:45:24] all multi family units free of
[2:45:25] smoke smoke free units so that
[2:45:31] a person as many similar areas
[2:45:35] wouldn't be as bad as some of
[2:45:35] these simple tax increases.
[2:45:40] We all deserve to have an area
[2:45:41] that is smoke free and that is
[2:45:42] safe and clean for all of us to
[2:45:47] live in regardless of our
[2:45:48] regardless of how much money we
[2:45:49] bring in just people trying to
[2:45:53] enter and that absolutely set
[2:45:59] up a political scheme political
[2:46:00] and social simplistic and
[2:46:01] simply that And we ask you when
[2:46:03] we ask a city to please be sure
[2:46:04] to support policies that
[2:46:12] support these kinds of
[2:46:13] endeavors within our city which
[2:46:13] you seem to think as you said
[2:46:15] echoing what the icac is our
[2:46:16] final two speakers are medicine
[2:46:17] And then Tony please I mean
[2:46:22] the new Okay thank you.
[2:46:26] i'm going to come I'm here to
[2:46:27] give you my thoughts from last
[2:46:28] time about the emerging
[2:46:28] evidence of marijuana use and
[2:46:31] asthma which is a chronic
[2:46:32] respiratory disease that
[2:46:33] affects millions of Americans
[2:46:33] including my son I just found
[2:46:37] out recently and as
[2:46:38] recreational marijuana use
[2:46:38] becomes increasingly common,
[2:46:39] many people assume it is
[2:46:43] harmless to the lungs.
[2:46:43] However, recent research
[2:46:44] suggests otherwise.
[2:46:48] One national study of 4477
[2:46:49] adults with asthma found that
[2:46:49] individuals who inhaled
[2:46:55] marijuana whether by smoking,
[2:46:55] vaping or both were
[2:46:56] significantly more likely to
[2:47:00] experience an asthma attack
[2:47:01] within one year Compared with
[2:47:02] Nonusers, people who smoked
[2:47:06] marijuana had 64% higher odds
[2:47:11] of an asthma attack and those
[2:47:12] who lived had 81% higher odds.
[2:47:16] A second study examined more
[2:47:16] than 140,000 patients
[2:47:17] hospitalized for severe asthma
[2:47:22] exacerbations after accounting
[2:47:23] for factors such as age,
[2:47:23] smoking status, obesity and
[2:47:24] other health conditions.
[2:47:28] Marijuana users experienced
[2:47:29] substantially worse outcomes
[2:47:34] They had a 68% higher risk of
[2:47:34] death within 30 days a 23%
[2:47:35] higher need for noninvasive
[2:47:39] ventilation, a 65% higher need
[2:47:40] for mechanical ventilation and
[2:47:41] more than double the risk of
[2:47:45] requiring ecmo.
[2:47:46] One of the most intense forms
[2:47:46] of life support.
[2:47:51] While research continues to
[2:47:52] study the underlying
[2:47:53] mechanisms, the message should
[2:47:53] be obvious.
[2:47:54] Inhaled marijuana use MAY pose
[2:47:57] serious risks for people with
[2:47:58] asthma and as policymakers you
[2:47:59] have a responsibility to ensure
[2:48:04] that public health information
[2:48:04] keeps pace with changing laws
[2:48:05] and social norms.
[2:48:05] Residents deserve accurate
[2:48:10] information about these
[2:48:10] respiratory risks associated
[2:48:11] with smoking and vaping
[2:48:12] marijuana especially for those
[2:48:16] living with asthma.
[2:48:17] Thank you.
[2:48:17] Thank you.
[2:48:18] That does include knowledge in
[2:48:19] a public comment Tony had
[2:48:19] already spoken.
[2:48:22] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[2:48:23] All right.
[2:48:23] Thank you.
[2:48:24] So the clerk we will now
[2:48:25] adjourn for the noon recess and
[2:48:25] reconvene in open session at 2
[2:57:56] P.M. Or shortly thereafter
[2:57:57] .
[2:59:57] >>
[3:03:42] .
[3:03:43] >> We have a lot of good people
[3:03:44] in the audience so we've got
[3:03:45] the number five.
[3:03:45] Oh, okay.
[3:03:45] So let's get started.
[3:03:46] Good afternoon.
[3:03:49] I will now reconvene
[3:03:49] the special City Council
[3:03:50] meeting on Monday, JUNE 8th,
[3:03:54] 2026 to order clerk Please call
[3:03:54] the roll.
[3:03:55] >> Thank you.
[3:03:55] Council PRESIDENT Council
[3:03:59] Member Campbell Council Member
[3:03:59] Whitburn here Council Member
[3:04:00] Foster.
[3:04:03] Here Council Member Ron Wilbur
[3:04:04] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[3:04:08] Council Member Campion here
[3:04:09] Council Member Moreno Present
[3:04:13] Council Member Ella Rivera and
[3:04:14] Council PRESIDENT LaCava.
[3:04:15] Present also attending
[3:04:18] the meeting our Assistant City
[3:04:18] Attorney Michelle Garland
[3:04:19] Independent Budget Analyst
[3:04:23] Charles Monica Council Affairs
[3:04:23] Advisor in the Mayor's office
[3:04:24] Code advisor and myself your
[3:04:25] city Clerk Diana Fuentes.
[3:04:25] Thank you.
[3:04:28] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[3:04:29] Thank you for that.
[3:04:29] Clerk Pointers Are there any
[3:04:32] comments from Mayor Mayor's
[3:04:33] office, council city attorney,
[3:04:34] independent budget analyst or
[3:04:37] city clerk?
[3:04:38] >> I see the city Clerk is up.
[3:04:38] Thank you.
[3:04:41] Council PRESIDENT I did just
[3:04:42] want to make a quick comment.
[3:04:43] The Office of the City Clerk in
[3:04:43] coordination with the Office of
[3:04:46] the mayor is pleased to
[3:04:47] announce the launch of the city
[3:04:47] of San Diego's new boards,
[3:04:51] commissions and committees
[3:04:51] website.
[3:04:52] The upgraded site continues to
[3:04:53] provide a centralized location
[3:04:56] for information about
[3:04:57] the city's boards, commissions
[3:04:58] and committees.
[3:04:58] Including current membership
[3:05:01] vacancies, current and upcoming
[3:05:02] expired terms and opportunities
[3:05:02] to apply for service in a more
[3:05:06] user friendly format and in 20
[3:05:07] different languages which
[3:05:10] enhances public access In
[3:05:11] addition to enhancing public
[3:05:12] access to information, the new
[3:05:15] services available at
[3:05:16] approximately one third of
[3:05:17] the cost of the prior platform.
[3:05:21] Through negotiations our office
[3:05:21] also secured additional
[3:05:22] features that improve
[3:05:23] efficiency, enhance reporting
[3:05:25] capabilities, provide a built
[3:05:26] in data retention and create a
[3:05:27] more user friendly experience
[3:05:30] for both applicants and
[3:05:30] members.
[3:05:31] Residents interested in
[3:05:32] learning more about the city's
[3:05:32] boards, commissions and
[3:05:35] committees or serving their
[3:05:36] community are encouraged to
[3:05:37] visit the website at Boards dot
[3:05:41] San Diego dot Govee.
[3:05:41] We invite members of the public
[3:05:42] to explore the new site and
[3:05:45] learn about the many ways they
[3:05:46] can participate in local
[3:05:47] government through service on a
[3:05:49] city's board commission or
[3:05:50] committee.
[3:05:50] >> Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[3:05:51] For the time.
[3:05:51] All right.
[3:05:51] Thank you.
[3:05:55] Clerk Please introduce item
[3:05:55] 629.
[3:05:58] Item 629 is the presentation of
[3:05:59] the status of vacancies
[3:06:00] recruitment and retention
[3:06:00] efforts.
[3:06:04] Per government code section
[3:06:04] 3502.3 If you were hearing
[3:06:08] council chambers and wish to
[3:06:09] speak to this item please be
[3:06:10] sure to submit your speaker
[3:06:10] slip to the front of the room
[3:06:13] and place your speaker slip in
[3:06:14] the clear box If you are
[3:06:14] participating remotely now's
[3:06:17] the time to raise your hand by
[3:06:18] pressing Star nine or the raise
[3:06:19] your hand icon that you council
[3:06:23] PRESIDENT All right.
[3:06:23] Thank you City Clerk Kim
[3:06:24] because this is an item we only
[3:06:25] do once a year and it's a
[3:06:27] little bit different.
[3:06:28] I'm going to give a little bit
[3:06:29] of a long winded explanation.
[3:06:32] California government code
[3:06:32] section 35 o 2.3 requires
[3:06:37] public agency employers to
[3:06:37] present the status of workforce
[3:06:38] vacancies and recruitment and
[3:06:42] retention efforts during
[3:06:42] the public hearing at least
[3:06:43] once per year before the public
[3:06:47] agencies governing body adopts
[3:06:47] the final budget for the year.
[3:06:48] The stated purpose of
[3:06:51] the public hearing is to
[3:06:52] identify any necessary changes
[3:06:52] to policies, procedures and
[3:06:56] recruitment activities that MAY
[3:06:56] lead to obstacles in the hiring
[3:07:01] process of future employees.
[3:07:01] Each of the city's recognized
[3:07:02] employee organizations is
[3:07:05] entitled to make a presentation
[3:07:06] at the public hearing to
[3:07:06] discuss the status of vacancies
[3:07:10] and recruitment and retention
[3:07:11] efforts for positions within
[3:07:11] the bargaining unit represented
[3:07:15] by the recognized employee
[3:07:15] organizations.
[3:07:20] On MAY 29th, 2026, the city's
[3:07:21] Human Resources department
[3:07:21] provided written notice to
[3:07:22] the city is complying with this
[3:07:24] requirement through today's
[3:07:25] presentation.
[3:07:25] Now for those of you MAY
[3:07:29] remember this item had been
[3:07:30] previously scheduled to be
[3:07:30] heard on MAY 10th but
[3:07:31] the meeting was adjourned
[3:07:35] during the tragic event that
[3:07:35] took place in our city that day
[3:07:36] all our eaos were promptly
[3:07:39] notified of the reschedule.
[3:07:40] Two of the city's recognized
[3:07:43] employee organizations Local
[3:07:44] 145 and Local 986 have
[3:07:45] requested to make a
[3:07:49] presentation and we will hear
[3:07:49] those presentations after
[3:07:50] the staff presentation.
[3:07:54] After the conclusion of all our
[3:07:55] ieo presentations the Council
[3:07:58] will have an opportunity to ask
[3:07:59] questions to staff or any
[3:07:59] representative member.
[3:08:03] We will then take public
[3:08:04] comment for this item at
[3:08:04] the conclusion of public
[3:08:05] comment.
[3:08:08] I will turn back to my
[3:08:08] colleagues once more for any
[3:08:09] concluding comments at this
[3:08:09] point.
[3:08:12] If any other recognized
[3:08:13] employee organizations is
[3:08:14] present today and wishes to be
[3:08:17] heard please let the City clerk
[3:08:17] know now.
[3:08:23] With that I see staff is
[3:08:23] seated.
[3:08:24] Please introduce yourselves for
[3:08:24] the record And how much time do
[3:08:27] you need for your presentation
[3:08:27] ?
[3:08:27] Thank you.
[3:08:28] Thank you.
[3:08:28] Council PRESIDENT And Council
[3:08:31] members Five minutes for a
[3:08:31] presentation.
[3:08:32] My name is Aboriginal Health
[3:08:32] and the Deputy Director in
[3:08:35] the Human Resources Department
[3:08:35] .
[3:08:36] With me today is Julie Rasko,
[3:08:37] our human resources director
[3:08:40] and Brian Mallard, our human
[3:08:40] resources officer.
[3:08:41] Also in attendance is
[3:08:44] the personnel department David
[3:08:45] Dellinger, personnel director
[3:08:45] and Darren Kinahan, deputy
[3:08:46] director in the personnel
[3:08:49] department to address any
[3:08:50] questions that the council MAY
[3:08:50] have regarding recruitment
[3:08:51] efforts for the classified
[3:08:51] employees.
[3:08:54] As the Council PRESIDENT
[3:08:55] Mentioned, we're here today to
[3:08:55] present on the status of
[3:08:56] vacancies, recruitment and
[3:08:59] retention efforts per
[3:09:02] California Government Code
[3:09:02] Section 3502.3.
[3:09:03] With that I'm going to turn it
[3:09:04] over to Brian who will walk
[3:09:12] through our presentation.
[3:09:12] Thank you.
[3:09:13] Thank you Council PRESIDENT For
[3:09:17] the introduction Council
[3:09:17] PRESIDENT Council members.
[3:09:18] As was discussed,
[3:09:18] the Government Code requires
[3:09:22] the city to present on
[3:09:23] the status of vacancies in
[3:09:23] recruitment and retention
[3:09:24] efforts during a public hearing
[3:09:27] each fiscal year prior to
[3:09:28] the adoption of the final
[3:09:28] budget.
[3:09:32] If in addition each recognized
[3:09:32] employee organization is
[3:09:33] entitled to make that
[3:09:36] presentation relating to
[3:09:37] positions within their
[3:09:37] bargaining unit during
[3:09:41] the hearing in which the city
[3:09:42] makes its presentation.
[3:09:42] If the number of vacancies
[3:09:46] within a single bargaining unit
[3:09:46] meets or exceeds 20% of
[3:09:47] the total number of full time
[3:09:48] positions within that
[3:09:51] bargaining unit, the recognized
[3:09:51] employee organization MAY
[3:09:52] request the inclusion of
[3:09:53] additional information in
[3:09:55] the presentation.
[3:09:56] This requirement is not
[3:09:59] applicable this year because as
[3:10:00] of JANUARY 1st, 2026 when
[3:10:00] the vacancy data was pulled, no
[3:10:04] bargaining unit in the city had
[3:10:05] a vacancy rate at or exceeding
[3:10:09] 20%.
[3:10:10] Regarding recruitment and
[3:10:10] retention efforts, the Human
[3:10:11] Resources Department and
[3:10:14] personnel department have
[3:10:15] partnered in recent years to
[3:10:15] enhance hiring processes and
[3:10:19] the applicant experience.
[3:10:19] The Human Resources Department
[3:10:20] has focused on employee
[3:10:23] development and retention.
[3:10:24] These and other efforts have
[3:10:24] resulted in voluntary
[3:10:29] separations decreasing year
[3:10:32] over year since 2022 and in
[3:10:33] 2025 the citywide separation
[3:10:37] rate was at its lowest point in
[3:10:38] a decade at 6.3%.
[3:10:42] Looking forward, the personnel
[3:10:43] department will continue to
[3:10:44] identify ways to enhance
[3:10:44] policies and procedures to
[3:10:47] promote efficiency while still
[3:10:48] providing equal opportunity in
[3:10:49] the civil service classified
[3:10:52] hiring process.
[3:10:57] Those efforts discussed related
[3:10:58] to improved employee retention
[3:11:01] and hiring processes have led
[3:11:02] to a city wide budgeted full
[3:11:05] time vacant position vacancy
[3:11:06] rate of 9.82% as of JANUARY 1st
[3:11:06] 2026.
[3:11:10] The next two slides identify
[3:11:11] the vacancy rates by bargaining
[3:11:14] unit as of JANUARY 1st.
[3:11:15] The Government Code requires
[3:11:18] the city to identify vacancy
[3:11:19] rates by bargaining unit within
[3:11:20] each designated recognized
[3:11:20] employee organization.
[3:11:24] We broken this up by
[3:11:28] the general and safety groups.
[3:11:28] The vacancy rate for the Deputy
[3:11:33] City Attorneys Association is
[3:11:36] 3.141% as of JANUARY 1st for
[3:11:37] Local 127 representative
[3:11:41] employees 11.9%.
[3:11:45] Mta has four separate
[3:11:46] bargaining units within within
[3:11:47] their representation That would
[3:11:50] be the administrative Support
[3:11:51] and field service unit which
[3:11:55] covers classifications series
[3:11:56] such as the clerical assistant
[3:12:00] series The and that vacancy
[3:12:01] rate is at 14.69%.
[3:12:05] The professional unit covers
[3:12:06] classifications series such as
[3:12:10] the various Engineer series.
[3:12:14] That vacancy rate is at 7.14%.
[3:12:18] The supervisory unit covers
[3:12:19] series and classifications such
[3:12:20] as the Building Maintenance
[3:12:23] Supervisor and that vacancy
[3:12:28] rate is at 7.09% in
[3:12:28] the technical unit.
[3:12:33] Covers the series such as
[3:12:34] the Administrative Aide series
[3:12:36] and that vacancy rate is at
[3:12:41] 13.85%.
[3:12:42] For the safety groups, Local
[3:12:42] 145 represents the firefighter
[3:12:49] unit and vacancy rate is at
[3:12:49] 7.34%.
[3:12:50] Local 986 has two bargaining
[3:12:54] units That would be
[3:12:55] the lifeguard unit and
[3:12:55] supervisory lifeguard unit that
[3:13:03] would be at 5.62% and 3.23%
[3:13:03] respectively.
[3:13:06] And then Poea also has two
[3:13:07] bargaining units within their
[3:13:07] representation the police unit
[3:13:11] and police management unit.
[3:13:12] The police unit is at 10.66%
[3:13:16] vacancy and the police
[3:13:17] management unit is at 3.33%.
[3:13:20] Vacancy.
[3:13:21] And with that we are available
[3:13:25] for questions.
[3:13:26] >> Thank you so much.
[3:13:26] All right.
[3:13:27] Thank you to staff for
[3:13:28] the presentation.
[3:13:30] We will now hear from Local 145
[3:13:31] who will have up to ten minutes
[3:13:39] for their presentation.
[3:13:40] >> Hello.
[3:13:40] Good afternoon.
[3:13:41] I'm Mark Morrison, vice
[3:13:45] PRESIDENT Standing a city of
[3:13:45] firefighters Local 145.
[3:13:46] With me today is Derek Lewis
[3:13:46] DeLay.
[3:13:49] He's our b division director.
[3:13:50] And we're very excited about
[3:13:50] this opportunity to have this
[3:13:54] discussion.
[3:13:54] We really appreciate your full
[3:13:55] attention because this is
[3:13:56] something that we've identified
[3:13:59] as of critical importance.
[3:13:59] Recruiting and retention has
[3:14:00] been a real challenge as we all
[3:14:04] know.
[3:14:04] I've worked with many of you
[3:14:05] individually on different
[3:14:06] things in terms of public
[3:14:08] safety and I know that you're
[3:14:09] all good people who want to do
[3:14:10] good things and protect this
[3:14:10] community.
[3:14:13] I get it and I appreciate that.
[3:14:13] So we'll start off
[3:14:14] lighthearted.
[3:14:15] We're all trying to break
[3:14:18] the same cake.
[3:14:18] We're all different chefs.
[3:14:19] We all bring different things
[3:14:23] to to the kitchen.
[3:14:23] >> It is my unfortunate duty
[3:14:26] though to tell you that Local
[3:14:26] 145 is fresh out of ingredients
[3:14:31] for sugar coating the spoonful
[3:14:31] of sugar to help the medicine
[3:14:32] go down because of budget cuts
[3:14:33] not available.
[3:14:36] And the truth is the taste is
[3:14:37] much more sour.
[3:14:37] So we've looked at ourselves,
[3:14:38] we've looked at the department
[3:14:41] and we've thought what is it
[3:14:42] that has contributed to this
[3:14:42] problem, to this issue with
[3:14:46] recruitment and retention when
[3:14:47] we look at it from the 50,000
[3:14:47] foot view?
[3:14:48] And there's a lot of things.
[3:14:51] But one of them is something
[3:14:51] that's been highlighted by
[3:14:52] several presentations by fire
[3:14:55] department management coming in
[3:14:56] And it's a celebration of one
[3:15:00] of our most incredible
[3:15:01] attributes as firefighters
[3:15:01] something in our culture that's
[3:15:05] wonderful when Serrano Valley
[3:15:05] is on fire.
[3:15:06] Like many of you know, we don't
[3:15:09] have the option of kicking it
[3:15:10] over to committee and say hey,
[3:15:11] what should we do?
[3:15:12] We'll figure this out in a week
[3:15:15] when buildings are on fire,
[3:15:15] cars are wrecked, people are
[3:15:16] sick, people are gravely
[3:15:16] injured.
[3:15:19] The time is now for action and
[3:15:20] we have to solve it then and
[3:15:20] there.
[3:15:24] That's what we do.
[3:15:25] And that often leads to doing
[3:15:28] less with more because we have
[3:15:29] to People are counting on us.
[3:15:30] And that is a cultural trait
[3:15:34] that I think especially with
[3:15:35] fire management a lot of them
[3:15:39] promoted to positions of
[3:15:40] management and they're doing a
[3:15:40] great job but a lot of them
[3:15:41] haven't set foot in a fire
[3:15:42] station in a long time.
[3:15:44] They don't understand the on
[3:15:44] the ground impacts Like for
[3:15:45] instance hey, the bomb squad
[3:15:48] worked a certain way in 1971.
[3:15:49] Maybe it'll work in 2026.
[3:15:53] It's just not apples to apples.
[3:15:53] The cadet program which by
[3:15:57] the way is responsible for
[3:15:57] almost 150 current employees
[3:15:58] one of the strongest
[3:15:58] recruitment and retention tools
[3:16:02] that we have and we're cutting
[3:16:02] it again.
[3:16:06] These are issues that we have
[3:16:07] identified as problematic.
[3:16:07] And again, it's a it's a
[3:16:11] representation and a
[3:16:12] recognition of what some of our
[3:16:12] strongest core traits as
[3:16:15] problem solvers.
[3:16:16] That's what we do.
[3:16:17] So we can get into our next
[3:16:17] slide.
[3:16:21] All of this is going to be
[3:16:22] predicated on facts.
[3:16:22] All of these are pulled from
[3:16:23] either the San Diego joint sd
[3:16:29] Ph.D. Social media handle or
[3:16:29] different municipalities that
[3:16:30] we compete with.
[3:16:35] So I'd like to kick this over
[3:16:35] to Derek Lewis.
[3:16:36] He is a captain in the Post
[3:16:39] Academy training division.
[3:16:39] And this is an excellent
[3:16:40] opportunity for him to kind of
[3:16:41] really highlight what we're
[3:16:44] seeing and the trends that we
[3:16:45] have to address.
[3:16:45] Derek Good afternoon Council.
[3:16:48] I have the opportunity of
[3:16:49] working as a captain at our
[3:16:53] Post Academy training division
[3:16:53] where once graduating
[3:16:54] the academy firefighters will
[3:16:57] then cycle through those
[3:16:58] stations for their first year
[3:16:59] of training.
[3:16:59] And we're seeing we've seen a
[3:17:03] couple of different trends in
[3:17:03] the last few academies.
[3:17:04] And I think I've been there
[3:17:07] probably close to ten academies
[3:17:08] is the recruits or excuse me
[3:17:12] the firefighters are coming out
[3:17:12] .
[3:17:13] They're a little younger.
[3:17:14] So that trend's going down.
[3:17:17] And then also we're seeing one
[3:17:17] 80s in career changes going
[3:17:21] from one career firefighting.
[3:17:22] Now everyone that we have been
[3:17:23] seeing go through are amazing
[3:17:26] and I couldn't be more proud to
[3:17:27] see or to work with some of
[3:17:28] these folks and be part of
[3:17:31] their training.
[3:17:31] But what's a common theme
[3:17:35] between the two is that they
[3:17:35] have no work experience or
[3:17:36] getting their minimum
[3:17:36] qualifications.
[3:17:39] They're getting their emt But
[3:17:39] there's there's no work
[3:17:40] experience as a emt in many of
[3:17:40] those.
[3:17:43] So that's adding on our
[3:17:44] workload to bring them up to
[3:17:47] speed in a91 system.
[3:17:48] And when you talk about
[3:17:52] applicants coming through and
[3:17:52] then into the fire department,
[3:17:53] is that resume that robust
[3:17:57] resume just isn't there with
[3:17:58] most of our folks coming
[3:17:58] through.
[3:17:59] So there are going to our
[3:18:02] partners up to the north with a
[3:18:02] better compensation package.
[3:18:03] So that's just an example of
[3:18:07] some of the little bit of
[3:18:07] changes that we're starting to
[3:18:08] see there in the training
[3:18:11] environment.
[3:18:11] Thank you, Derek.
[3:18:16] So to kind of shed a little bit
[3:18:16] of light on how we do business
[3:18:17] on a fire truck or a fire
[3:18:19] engine, you're going to have
[3:18:20] one captain an engineer who
[3:18:23] drives the apparatus and two
[3:18:24] firefighters one as a
[3:18:25] paramedic, one as an emt.
[3:18:28] What we've done as a stopgap is
[3:18:28] had certain calls when
[3:18:33] necessary run by captain,
[3:18:34] firefighter, paramedics or
[3:18:37] engineer paramedics.
[3:18:38] Every person has a job to do.
[3:18:43] The supervisors job is to look
[3:18:44] at a situation and ensure that
[3:18:44] there isn't danger looming.
[3:18:47] Someone coming into the scene a
[3:18:47] car driving in uncontrolled.
[3:18:48] Once you take somebody and
[3:18:52] place them into patient care
[3:18:53] now they're here.
[3:18:53] They're not looking here.
[3:18:56] And because of our inability to
[3:18:57] attract firefighter paramedics
[3:19:02] because they are in high
[3:19:03] demand, low supply, we are not
[3:19:03] competitive at all could be
[3:19:06] switch lights because this is
[3:19:07] the anemic salary range for a
[3:19:11] new firefighter paramedic You
[3:19:16] see that there are 42,000 to
[3:19:16] $51,000 approximately Join cfd.
[3:19:20] Can we switch to the next slide
[3:19:20] ?
[3:19:21] This is in Los Angeles your
[3:19:21] same scale.
[3:19:25] The mathematics Do not lie.
[3:19:25] Point blank.
[3:19:30] So this is this is our ask.
[3:19:33] I'd like you to have a look out
[3:19:34] into this audience right now.
[3:19:39] This is what we call our sea of
[3:19:39] red.
[3:19:40] These are the men and women who
[3:19:40] are willing to put it on
[3:19:44] the line operating at the brink
[3:19:44] from all different walks of
[3:19:48] life, all different backgrounds
[3:19:49] ,different skill sets and
[3:19:49] different attributes that they
[3:19:53] bring to this department.
[3:19:54] These are the faces that are
[3:19:54] going to suffer if we don't
[3:19:58] address this problem Head on.
[3:19:59] This problem that has plagued
[3:19:59] San Diego City firefighters for
[3:20:01] the better part of three
[3:20:02] decades.
[3:20:02] These are the individuals whose
[3:20:07] shoulders you will stand on if
[3:20:07] you tell it.
[3:20:08] This is America's finest and
[3:20:11] one of America's safest cities
[3:20:11] .
[3:20:12] Them their blood, sweat and
[3:20:16] tears, their divorces, marital
[3:20:16] problems, mental health issues
[3:20:21] from increased exposure to
[3:20:21] human suffering and tragedy.
[3:20:25] That is what we deal in.
[3:20:26] Please don't signal to Local
[3:20:30] 145 and its membership that
[3:20:31] that job is only really valued
[3:20:36] in Los Angeles City or Los
[3:20:40] Angeles County or au cfa or San
[3:20:40] Francisco.
[3:20:41] Please address the problem.
[3:20:45] Get San Diego City firefighters
[3:20:46] off of the bottom of
[3:20:49] the compensation survey.
[3:20:50] They are worth so much more
[3:20:50] than that.
[3:20:51] Every single one of them.
[3:20:55] Those are the faces.
[3:20:55] Those are the men and women.
[3:20:56] So I implore you please.
[3:20:59] We want to be allies.
[3:21:00] Things work better when we're
[3:21:04] collaborative.
[3:21:04] >> We will stand.
[3:21:05] This group, this sea of red and
[3:21:08] this is only a fraction of what
[3:21:09] we have available because we
[3:21:09] have a massive incident going
[3:21:10] up north.
[3:21:13] We will stand shoulder to
[3:21:13] shoulder with you against
[3:21:18] anyone or anything that is a
[3:21:18] threat to public safety and
[3:21:19] the men and women who risk it
[3:21:20] all the men and women who have
[3:21:23] been injured on this job,
[3:21:24] the men and women who have to
[3:21:24] endure some of the most
[3:21:28] horrifying sounds like
[3:21:32] the loss, the loss of a loved
[3:21:32] one and the sound of heartbreak
[3:21:36] when a mother sees that she has
[3:21:36] lost her child or someone sees
[3:21:37] that they've lost their house,
[3:21:38] that they've worked so hard
[3:21:38] their whole life for.
[3:21:41] And all of their heirlooms and
[3:21:41] belongings.
[3:21:42] This is what they do.
[3:21:46] They should be compensated in a
[3:21:46] fair and equitable manner.
[3:21:51] Many of you were on the panel
[3:21:51] or on council when
[3:21:55] the compensation philosophy was
[3:21:56] adopted.
[3:21:57] We're not even asking to be at
[3:21:57] the top.
[3:21:57] Just please make us
[3:21:58] competitive.
[3:22:01] Please help us address this
[3:22:01] recruitment and retention Make
[3:22:02] it so that we can't I can walk
[3:22:05] into a fire station one across
[3:22:06] the street where I work and I
[3:22:06] can look at my 24 year old
[3:22:09] firefighter paramedic and say
[3:22:10] hey, stay, stay.
[3:22:10] They care.
[3:22:14] They're going to do what's
[3:22:15] necessary to take care of you.
[3:22:16] Don't go to Los Angeles.
[3:22:19] Don't go to San Francisco.
[3:22:20] This city council, this mayor,
[3:22:21] this city, they care about you.
[3:22:24] Please make it possible for me
[3:22:25] to not be lying when I say
[3:22:25] that.
[3:22:29] And again Local 145 is always
[3:22:33] willing to be a partner that
[3:22:34] Thank you very much.
[3:22:35] And I want to end with just a
[3:22:36] simple question and I hope all
[3:22:39] of you based on your actions
[3:22:39] will make it very clear where
[3:22:40] you stand.
[3:22:44] Do we want the San Diego Fire
[3:22:44] Rescue Department to return to
[3:22:45] training ground status after
[3:22:48] Prop b?
[3:22:49] Or do we want San Diego Fire
[3:22:49] Rescue to be a destination fire
[3:22:53] department that attracts
[3:22:54] the best talent in the world?
[3:22:54] Thank you very much for your
[3:22:57] time and I'll be happy to field
[3:23:02] any questions if you have any.
[3:23:02] >> All right.
[3:23:03] Thank you very much.
[3:23:04] So we're going to do the next
[3:23:07] Aereo and then we'll have
[3:23:08] the council members ask any
[3:23:08] questions they might have of
[3:23:20] you.
[3:23:21] All right.
[3:23:26] We will now hear from
[3:23:30] California Teamsters Local 986
[3:23:30] .
[3:23:31] Yeah.
[3:23:34] And you, sir you will always
[3:23:39] also have up to ten minutes
[3:23:44] working just making sure.
[3:23:44] >> Good afternoon, counsel.
[3:23:45] My name is Patrick Van.
[3:23:49] I'm a steward for Teamsters 96
[3:23:49] representing the city of San
[3:23:50] Diego Lifeguards.
[3:23:53] Thank you for the opportunity
[3:23:54] to speak today regarding
[3:23:55] lifeguard recruitment and
[3:23:55] retention.
[3:23:58] There are many factors that
[3:23:59] contribute to staffing
[3:24:00] challenges but today I want to
[3:24:00] speak broadly to what makes San
[3:24:04] Diego lifeguards unique why
[3:24:04] retention matters and what
[3:24:05] the city can do to preserve
[3:24:08] this profession for the future
[3:24:08] generations.
[3:24:09] San Diego lifeguards are unlike
[3:24:13] almost any other public safety
[3:24:13] profession.
[3:24:14] In fact at the state and
[3:24:18] the national level, lifeguards
[3:24:18] are not even represent excuse
[3:24:19] me not even recognized as first
[3:24:20] responders.
[3:24:22] Very few cities in the United
[3:24:23] States even have a professional
[3:24:24] ocean lifeguard service.
[3:24:27] Fewer still operate year-round
[3:24:28] emergency response systems at
[3:24:29] the skill of which San Diego
[3:24:32] does.
[3:24:33] Our geographic excuse me our
[3:24:36] geography demands that we
[3:24:37] protect miles of coastline,
[3:24:37] multiple harbors, coastal
[3:24:41] cliffs, rocky reefs, marine
[3:24:42] protected areas and some of
[3:24:42] the busiest beaches in
[3:24:43] the nation.
[3:24:46] But what truly makes the city
[3:24:47] of San Diego lifeguards unique
[3:24:47] is the scope of work our
[3:24:51] members perform.
[3:24:52] Of course we handle what most
[3:24:52] people associate with
[3:24:56] lifeguarding water observation
[3:24:56] ,ocean rescues, medical aids
[3:24:57] prevention, preventative safety
[3:25:01] work and public interactions.
[3:25:01] But beyond that our members
[3:25:02] also perform scuba search and
[3:25:06] rescue flood response maritime
[3:25:06] firefighting Boating
[3:25:07] Emergencies 911 Emergency
[3:25:11] Dispatching law enforcement
[3:25:11] functions And we offer a 24
[3:25:16] hour emergency response.
[3:25:16] The broad range of
[3:25:17] responsibilities makes us
[3:25:18] difficult to compare to other
[3:25:18] agencies.
[3:25:21] But it's also what makes this
[3:25:21] profession so meaningful to
[3:25:22] the people that do it.
[3:25:26] Our members are highly trained
[3:25:26] public safety professionals and
[3:25:27] the city tarpon depends on them
[3:25:30] Every single day.
[3:25:31] At the same time, recruitment
[3:25:31] and retention continue to be
[3:25:35] major challenges.
[3:25:36] Every year we lose about
[3:25:36] approximately 20% of our
[3:25:39] seasonal workforce and this
[3:25:40] year alone we're expected to
[3:25:41] hire nearly 60 new lifeguards.
[3:25:44] Each of those recruits are
[3:25:45] required to complete physically
[3:25:45] demanding regional academies
[3:25:49] passed background checks,
[3:25:50] complete extensive field
[3:25:50] training and learn to operate
[3:25:51] in one of the most dynamic
[3:25:53] emergency environments
[3:25:54] imaginable.
[3:25:55] A tremendous amount is asked of
[3:25:59] them.
[3:26:04] >> Many work weekends, holidays
[3:26:04] ,fixed schedules throughout
[3:26:05] the busiest times of the year.
[3:26:06] Most of our seasonal employees
[3:26:08] receive no health care, no
[3:26:09] pension, no paid leave and no
[3:26:10] holiday pay.
[3:26:14] They start at approximately $26
[3:26:14] per hour.
[3:26:15] And while that wage MAY sound
[3:26:19] reasonable on paper,
[3:26:19] the reality is the cost of
[3:26:20] living in city of San Diego has
[3:26:23] changed dramatically for many
[3:26:24] of the young lifeguards Staying
[3:26:24] in this profession long term
[3:26:25] becomes financially unrealistic
[3:26:28] even if they love the work.
[3:26:29] And this is what and this was
[3:26:29] the work that carries real
[3:26:33] emotion and physical demands
[3:26:33] Over the course of a summer a
[3:26:34] lifeguard MAY respond to
[3:26:35] hundreds of emergencies.
[3:26:37] They will likely encounter
[3:26:38] people experiencing some of
[3:26:39] the worst moments of their
[3:26:39] lives and in some cases
[3:26:43] the last moments of their
[3:26:43] lives.
[3:26:43] This profession is not for
[3:26:47] everyone but the people that do
[3:26:48] do it stay because they do
[3:26:48] believe in the they believe in
[3:26:49] public service and they care
[3:26:52] deeply about the community.
[3:26:53] They know that They know
[3:26:53] the difference that they are
[3:26:54] making.
[3:26:57] Another major part of retention
[3:26:58] is working conditions.
[3:26:58] Many of our facilities are in
[3:27:01] urgent need of repair or
[3:27:02] replacement.
[3:27:03] At Ocean Beach approximately 20
[3:27:03] lifeguards that work out of an
[3:27:06] old station that leaks when it
[3:27:07] rains and contains only a
[3:27:08] single restroom and unisex
[3:27:11] locker room at Mission Beach.
[3:27:12] Conditions have deteriorated to
[3:27:13] the point that lifeguards will
[3:27:16] likely spend years operating
[3:27:16] out of temporary trailers.
[3:27:17] North Pacific Beach lifeguards
[3:27:20] have been working for decades
[3:27:21] out of what is essentially a
[3:27:22] small metal shipping container
[3:27:22] without running water or
[3:27:25] restroom facilities.
[3:27:26] Conditions like these
[3:27:26] absolutely affect morale,
[3:27:30] professionalism and retention.
[3:27:31] When employees are asked to
[3:27:32] perform at a high level for
[3:27:35] public safety work while
[3:27:36] operating out of deteriorating
[3:27:37] facilities, it sends a message
[3:27:37] about how their profession is
[3:27:39] valued.
[3:27:40] I also want to touch briefly on
[3:27:40] compensation.
[3:27:45] As I mentioned earlier, San
[3:27:45] Diego lifeguards are difficult
[3:27:46] to compare directly to other
[3:27:47] classifications because of
[3:27:49] the many of our members
[3:27:50] eventually transition into
[3:27:54] professions like firefighting,
[3:27:55] law enforcement and health care
[3:27:55] careers that share many of
[3:27:56] the same emergency response
[3:27:59] skills and responsibilities.
[3:28:00] But one useful comparison does
[3:28:00] exist.
[3:28:04] Los Angeles County lifeguards
[3:28:05] are one of closest comparable
[3:28:05] agencies in terms of
[3:28:08] operational scope and
[3:28:08] professional responsibilities.
[3:28:09] San Diego lifeguards currently
[3:28:13] earn roughly 20% less than what
[3:28:14] they make in the county of Los
[3:28:14] Angeles.
[3:28:18] Compensation matters because it
[3:28:19] directly impacts the city's
[3:28:20] ability to recruit and retain
[3:28:23] experienced personnel.
[3:28:23] Competitive pay helps us to
[3:28:24] maintain a professional
[3:28:25] workforce, retain institutional
[3:28:28] knowledge and recruit employees
[3:28:29] who reflect the diverse
[3:28:29] community we serve.
[3:28:33] Finally, I want to touch on
[3:28:34] public awareness.
[3:28:35] One of the most important roles
[3:28:35] as a steward is to simply
[3:28:38] educate people about what San
[3:28:38] Diego lifeguards actually do.
[3:28:42] I'm from New Jersey.
[3:28:43] I get a lot of questions about
[3:28:44] what I do.
[3:28:44] I've been called a pool guard.
[3:28:45] My parents don't really
[3:28:48] understand it yet but we're
[3:28:48] getting there.
[3:28:49] We're going to get the figured
[3:28:52] out that I work full time.
[3:28:52] This profession gives people
[3:28:53] the opportunity to serve their
[3:28:57] community, protect lives, raise
[3:28:58] a family here in San Diego and
[3:28:58] dedicate themselves to public
[3:28:59] service.
[3:29:02] Many people still think
[3:29:03] lifeguarding is a temporary
[3:29:03] seasonal work but for many of
[3:29:04] us this is a career in public
[3:29:07] safety and emergency response.
[3:29:07] But doing that becomes
[3:29:08] increasingly difficult Without
[3:29:12] sustainable wages, safe working
[3:29:12] conditions and recognition of
[3:29:16] equal responsibilities are
[3:29:17] members carry.
[3:29:17] I appreciate the support that
[3:29:18] many of you showed toward our
[3:29:21] members in our profession and I
[3:29:21] encourage the city to continue
[3:29:22] breaking down barriers that
[3:29:25] separate lifeguards from other
[3:29:26] public safety professionals
[3:29:26] because ultimately this
[3:29:27] conversation is not only about
[3:29:30] employee retention.
[3:29:31] It's about maintaining
[3:29:31] the level of emergency response
[3:29:32] and beach safety The public
[3:29:36] expects and depends on every
[3:29:36] year City of San Diego
[3:29:37] Lifeguards Save Thousands of
[3:29:37] lives.
[3:29:41] The city should The city should
[3:29:42] continue investing in
[3:29:42] the people that make this
[3:29:43] possible.
[3:29:52] Thank you.
[3:29:52] All right.
[3:29:57] Clark, did any other recognized
[3:29:58] employee organization indicate
[3:29:59] their wish to speak during
[3:30:02] today's presentation?
[3:30:03] >> I did not receive any other
[3:30:03] requests.
[3:30:03] Okay.
[3:30:07] That was just for the Oreos.
[3:30:08] We'll still have time for
[3:30:08] public comment.
[3:30:09] So again, this is an
[3:30:12] information item.
[3:30:13] >> But with that I'll turn to
[3:30:14] my colleagues for any questions
[3:30:14] you might have for either
[3:30:17] the Oreos or to staff.
[3:30:22] And I don't see any body on
[3:30:23] the line.
[3:30:23] >> Council Member Rivera Thank
[3:30:24] you.
[3:30:27] Council PRESIDENT.
[3:30:28] Since you're here both
[3:30:44] the Oreos and coming up.
[3:30:45] >> So first thank you all for
[3:30:45] coming down.
[3:30:47] Thanks for bringing the members
[3:30:48] down And I know that standing
[3:30:54] in front of Sandy in public and
[3:30:55] making these statements isn't
[3:30:55] easy.
[3:30:56] It requires courage.
[3:30:56] I appreciate you all doing
[3:30:56] that.
[3:31:01] >> I think you all mentioned it
[3:31:02] in in certain terms but is it
[3:31:07] as simple as just bringing you
[3:31:07] all up to the point of being on
[3:31:12] a level playing on a level
[3:31:12] playing field with L.A.?
[3:31:17] Is it increasing wages to a
[3:31:17] certain amount?
[3:31:18] I mean you've got us in front
[3:31:18] of you.
[3:31:22] I mean the most explicit terms
[3:31:22] is you're willing to provide
[3:31:23] them.
[3:31:23] I think it's important for us
[3:31:24] to hear how you think we can
[3:31:27] make this better.
[3:31:32] Sure, I would forgive
[3:31:33] the analogy but if we got a
[3:31:34] room full of firefighters here
[3:31:34] so it's like bodybuilding,
[3:31:34] right?
[3:31:36] You don't get buff overnight.
[3:31:37] It's something that takes any
[3:31:37] level of fitness.
[3:31:41] It takes time and we understand
[3:31:42] that we've gotten to the place
[3:31:43] where we're down here and we
[3:31:47] don't anticipate by any stretch
[3:31:47] of the imagination that this
[3:31:48] could be fixed overnight.
[3:31:48] Sure.
[3:31:49] But we have to start digging
[3:31:52] our way out of this and and
[3:31:52] there's a lot of great work
[3:31:53] that's been done by members of
[3:31:57] this council that helped us
[3:31:57] regain some ground over
[3:31:58] the last several contracts.
[3:31:59] But as you can all imagine,
[3:32:02] each one of the other areas in
[3:32:03] different cities they continue
[3:32:07] to also gain.
[3:32:08] So we we jumped up and then
[3:32:08] fell right back down.
[3:32:11] So I would say the first order
[3:32:11] of business is establishing
[3:32:12] some set level of how we can
[3:32:16] keep pace, Right?
[3:32:17] I mean we don't we're not going
[3:32:18] to get into this marathon race
[3:32:21] and try to win it on our first
[3:32:21] shot.
[3:32:22] But by GOD we have to get to a
[3:32:23] point where we can at least
[3:32:26] figure out how we prioritize
[3:32:27] public safety.
[3:32:31] And in that we'll find a way to
[3:32:32] at least keep pace at least
[3:32:33] live up to the compensation
[3:32:36] philosophy to get us to median
[3:32:36] right.
[3:32:37] I would say that's the biggest
[3:32:37] thing.
[3:32:38] So how do we go about doing
[3:32:38] that?
[3:32:42] Well, that's that's a lot of
[3:32:42] conversations.
[3:32:43] It's a lot of very difficult
[3:32:43] decisions.
[3:32:44] But I think that's why all of
[3:32:46] us are here.
[3:32:47] So I hope that answers
[3:32:47] the question.
[3:32:48] But that's at least the a good
[3:32:51] starting point is to really
[3:32:51] identify how we can just get
[3:32:52] ourselves into a system that
[3:32:54] allows us to keep pace.
[3:32:55] Thanks.
[3:32:59] Okay.
[3:33:00] >> Thank you.
[3:33:00] Absolutely.
[3:33:01] I think that is a great place
[3:33:05] to start it.
[3:33:06] It's it's it's absolutely going
[3:33:07] to be one of the things that
[3:33:07] we're dealing with in the city
[3:33:10] of San Diego is dealing with
[3:33:11] the rising cost of living in
[3:33:11] the city of San Diego,
[3:33:12] particularly if we're going to
[3:33:15] continue the recruitment
[3:33:16] program that we have.
[3:33:17] We recruit consistently from
[3:33:17] our seasonal ranks.
[3:33:21] They are guaranteed work from
[3:33:22] essentially Memorial Day to
[3:33:22] Labor Day and it gets
[3:33:26] increasingly more difficult to
[3:33:27] keep those guards engaged and
[3:33:28] bringing them back year after
[3:33:30] year after year if there's
[3:33:31] going to be that nine month
[3:33:32] period where they don't have
[3:33:32] that guaranteed income and
[3:33:36] ensuring that the income is
[3:33:37] going to be worth it and making
[3:33:38] sure that it's able to continue
[3:33:38] living.
[3:33:41] I'd also say on top of that one
[3:33:42] of the biggest issues that we
[3:33:42] deal with has to do with
[3:33:43] the facilities that we're
[3:33:45] dealing with in the city of San
[3:33:46] Diego.
[3:33:46] We as I stated, there's three
[3:33:47] facilities just right off
[3:33:50] the top that make it very, very
[3:33:51] difficult to maintain.
[3:33:56] Recruitment is a along those
[3:33:56] lines.
[3:33:57] But if you go and work North
[3:33:58] Bay and you're sitting in that
[3:34:01] shipping container, there's no
[3:34:01] level of privacy associated
[3:34:02] with that.
[3:34:02] If you're working in Ocean
[3:34:03] Beach and you're there in
[3:34:03] the winter and it starts
[3:34:07] leaking and you're trying to
[3:34:07] figure out how to take care of
[3:34:08] that.
[3:34:08] That also jumps in the way of
[3:34:11] making sure that we're able to
[3:34:12] do our jobs.
[3:34:12] We've all talked about
[3:34:13] the mission beach issue that's
[3:34:14] going on right now and we're
[3:34:16] thankful that we're taking
[3:34:17] the steps to start to try and
[3:34:22] react and fix that problem.
[3:34:23] But this is going to continue
[3:34:23] to happen over the next 20, 30
[3:34:24] years.
[3:34:27] I'm young in my career.
[3:34:28] I'll be here for another 20
[3:34:28] years.
[3:34:29] But we want to make sure that
[3:34:32] we're setting ourselves up to
[3:34:33] take care of the next
[3:34:33] generation and the generation
[3:34:34] after that and make sure that
[3:34:38] we have the state of the art
[3:34:39] facilities that you do see in
[3:34:39] L.A. County and all these other
[3:34:40] agencies that are investing in
[3:34:43] there and they're public
[3:34:43] safety.
[3:34:44] I'd also like to say once again
[3:34:48] lifeguards not being
[3:34:49] represented as public safety
[3:34:49] officials outside of the city
[3:34:50] is not something that directly
[3:34:53] affects the city but it
[3:34:54] absolutely affects us as a
[3:34:54] profession And we hope that you
[3:34:55] guys will be able to support us
[3:34:58] as we start to work on that
[3:34:59] journey of making sure that
[3:35:00] lifeguards across the state and
[3:35:00] across the United States are
[3:35:04] recognized in the public safety
[3:35:04] that they represent.
[3:35:05] >> Thank you.
[3:35:05] Appreciate that.
[3:35:08] And then just one more question
[3:35:09] and I have comments to make but
[3:35:10] I'll just save this part for
[3:35:12] questions.
[3:35:13] The turnover component of this
[3:35:18] what does it mean when your
[3:35:23] your colleagues are essentially
[3:35:24] having to look elsewhere at all
[3:35:24] times for for better
[3:35:29] opportunities?
[3:35:30] I think like most of us can
[3:35:31] speculate as to why that is But
[3:35:34] in like terms that help us
[3:35:35] understand what that looks like
[3:35:35] for you all in your day to day
[3:35:36] jobs.
[3:35:39] What does it mean when folks
[3:35:40] are leaving for other other
[3:35:45] departments for different
[3:35:45] careers?
[3:35:45] Sure.
[3:35:46] No, And that's a that's a
[3:35:47] really great question.
[3:35:50] I'm glad you asked it because
[3:35:51] there's two components to that
[3:35:51] to that answer.
[3:35:55] One, obviously there's a level
[3:35:56] of understanding.
[3:35:56] These people have families.
[3:35:57] They have lives And this is one
[3:36:01] of the most beautiful, most
[3:36:01] expensive places to live in
[3:36:02] America.
[3:36:06] So it is a very strong
[3:36:06] challenge that comes with it a
[3:36:07] sense of understanding.
[3:36:11] That said though, I understand
[3:36:12] that outside of combat this is
[3:36:17] you form bonds with people by
[3:36:18] virtue of what we're exposed to
[3:36:19] and what we have to carry each
[3:36:22] other through.
[3:36:23] I mean one of the biggest
[3:36:24] killers in our profession has
[3:36:28] just become suicide And I can
[3:36:29] only represent to you so much
[3:36:33] in in words how important and
[3:36:34] valuable some of
[3:36:34] the conversations that I've had
[3:36:35] in the kitchen table in a fire
[3:36:39] station or and to see people
[3:36:40] that you see as a brother or a
[3:36:44] sister make that very difficult
[3:36:45] decision to leave is
[3:36:45] devastating.
[3:36:46] These are people who are in
[3:36:46] your wedding party.
[3:36:50] These are people who your kids
[3:36:50] call Uncle Dante.
[3:36:51] I mean it's just the human
[3:36:55] factor is devastating And
[3:36:55] the financial impacts as you're
[3:37:01] well aware, they are what they
[3:37:01] are.
[3:37:02] They're incredibly challenging
[3:37:02] especially in this region.
[3:37:05] So to answer your question, I
[3:37:06] mean there's a whole gamut of
[3:37:07] different emotions and things
[3:37:11] that you have to deal with and
[3:37:11] people leave.
[3:37:12] And obviously the elephant in
[3:37:13] the room, the talent that you
[3:37:16] lose, the experience that you
[3:37:17] lose.
[3:37:17] This is life and death.
[3:37:18] What we do not to be
[3:37:22] the hyperbole guy but my
[3:37:23] goodness people's lives depend
[3:37:23] on what we do.
[3:37:27] They depend on the fact that
[3:37:27] whoever showing up is
[3:37:28] experienced and obviously as
[3:37:29] Derek highlighted, these are
[3:37:32] really great people but they're
[3:37:33] brand new who aren't bringing
[3:37:34] any experience and experiences.
[3:37:38] You can only get it one way and
[3:37:39] we're not attracting we're not
[3:37:40] attractive enough to coax
[3:37:40] people away from other
[3:37:41] departments who have that
[3:37:41] experience.
[3:37:45] So I mean we're talking
[3:37:45] operational, we're talking on
[3:37:46] an individual level and
[3:37:47] obviously a financial aspect of
[3:37:53] it are very challenging.
[3:37:54] >> As I said, I moved to
[3:37:59] the city of San Diego 11 years
[3:38:04] ago as a seasonal lifeguard one
[3:38:04] when I first moved to the city.
[3:38:05] I paid $600 a month in rent.
[3:38:09] I shared it with an employee
[3:38:09] and the compensation for
[3:38:10] seasonal lifeguards was enough
[3:38:15] to for me to make that work.
[3:38:15] We're quickly moving towards a
[3:38:16] time where people are not going
[3:38:20] to be able to make ends meet
[3:38:21] just based off of the pay
[3:38:26] that's associated with
[3:38:26] lifeguard ones.
[3:38:27] And obviously as the gentleman
[3:38:30] from Local 145 and people that
[3:38:31] I work with on a day to day
[3:38:32] basis and people that I respect
[3:38:36] admire just said when we lose
[3:38:36] these people it's not just one
[3:38:37] person leaves and another
[3:38:41] person steps into their place.
[3:38:42] We're now having to replace a
[3:38:42] knowledge gap, a skill gap and
[3:38:47] then we have to train those
[3:38:48] people up and we're happy to
[3:38:48] bring in new people and train
[3:38:49] that.
[3:38:49] But we also want to keep
[3:38:50] the institutional knowledge
[3:38:53] that's associated with the city
[3:38:54] of San Diego lifeguards as much
[3:38:54] as humanly possible.
[3:38:56] We're seeing significant
[3:38:57] turnover at the lifeguard two
[3:38:57] ranks.
[3:38:58] We're very young agency right
[3:38:59] now because we're starting to
[3:39:02] see that turnover kind of start
[3:39:03] to take place And the people
[3:39:03] that we're bringing in are
[3:39:04] very, very, very skilled and
[3:39:09] very high executer But there is
[3:39:09] something to be said about
[3:39:10] losing that institutional
[3:39:14] knowledge as the city continues
[3:39:14] to get more and more expensive.
[3:39:15] People are going to have to
[3:39:16] make tough decisions.
[3:39:16] We've had we've lost lifeguards
[3:39:19] in the last couple of years who
[3:39:20] just can't afford to make ends
[3:39:21] meet at the seasonal ranks.
[3:39:25] We have people that are very,
[3:39:26] very smart, very skilled but
[3:39:27] they've made the realization
[3:39:31] that lifeguarding they can't do
[3:39:32] the six years as a seasonal
[3:39:33] lifeguard in order that
[3:39:33] the time that it takes to
[3:39:34] promote and we do end up
[3:39:38] thankfully sending a lot of our
[3:39:39] lifeguards over to the fire
[3:39:39] department and working with
[3:39:40] Local 145 and we're happy to be
[3:39:44] able to support those guys that
[3:39:44] end up doing that.
[3:39:45] But we also need to make sure
[3:39:46] that we're supporting our ranks
[3:39:49] as we have pretty frequent
[3:39:50] turnover right now.
[3:39:51] I think in the next five years
[3:39:51] we're losing 25 lifeguards So
[3:39:55] that does take a while for us
[3:39:56] to train them up, get them to
[3:39:57] the position where they're able
[3:39:58] to move into and replace that
[3:39:58] knowledge.
[3:40:02] So that would be it.
[3:40:02] >> Thank you.
[3:40:03] I appreciate those responses.
[3:40:04] Like I said, I have got some
[3:40:07] more comments I want to respect
[3:40:07] the process that that
[3:40:08] the PRESIDENT Set up.
[3:40:09] It's an unacceptable status
[3:40:09] quo.
[3:40:12] I think that's clear.
[3:40:13] And the one thing I do want to
[3:40:14] say is that thank you to both
[3:40:18] both unions for showing up to
[3:40:19] support revenue when we've when
[3:40:19] we made those pushes because
[3:40:25] growing the pie or the cake is
[3:40:25] an important step in getting to
[3:40:26] where we want to go And I know
[3:40:31] that you all have done that on
[3:40:31] a regular basis.
[3:40:32] >> So I just want to say thank
[3:40:32] you.
[3:40:33] Thanks guys.
[3:40:33] President.
[3:40:33] All right.
[3:40:36] Thank you, Councilmember de la
[3:40:37] Rivera.
[3:40:37] We'll go next to council
[3:40:38] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Thank you
[3:40:41] Council PRESIDENT And thank you
[3:40:42] all for showing up today
[3:40:43] especially being that I'm in
[3:40:43] District six we borders around
[3:40:48] Valley with the council
[3:40:49] PRESIDENT And so thank you to
[3:40:49] all the 45 members who are out
[3:40:50] there today actually fighting
[3:40:54] that fire currently.
[3:40:55] I think what kills them are
[3:40:55] really Rivera asked what was
[3:41:00] important and I really
[3:41:01] appreciate your very honest
[3:41:01] answer to that because I think
[3:41:02] that is the struggle that we as
[3:41:05] a city are continuing to have
[3:41:06] in terms of not just talking
[3:41:06] amongst ourselves but also
[3:41:07] talking to the public which is
[3:41:11] that the things that we care
[3:41:11] about in the city and we hear
[3:41:12] from business all the time
[3:41:13] about public safety, fire
[3:41:17] management being important
[3:41:18] brush management be important.
[3:41:19] These things don't happen
[3:41:23] without us choosing to fund it
[3:41:24] and to secure the resources
[3:41:24] necessary to do so.
[3:41:25] And you all watched how
[3:41:29] difficult those discussions can
[3:41:30] be with the public.
[3:41:31] I think we have a lot of work
[3:41:35] to do as a city not just to try
[3:41:36] to figure out how we align
[3:41:37] greater resources but we've a
[3:41:38] lot of work to do to earn trust
[3:41:41] with constituents and voters
[3:41:41] the public as a whole to be
[3:41:42] willing to invest in
[3:41:46] the services that we're telling
[3:41:47] them we desperately need in
[3:41:47] the city.
[3:41:48] And so when you mentioned that
[3:41:52] this isn't just some dream that
[3:41:53] next year we'll snap our
[3:41:54] fingers and we'll hit
[3:41:54] the median that we have all
[3:41:58] said we would in terms of our
[3:41:59] compensation philosophy.
[3:41:59] But it's something that we
[3:42:00] actually have to show that
[3:42:05] we're working towards and
[3:42:05] that's something I'm very
[3:42:06] challenged with in the city is
[3:42:07] as you are all expressing
[3:42:10] today, I think we share
[3:42:10] the same frustrations which is
[3:42:11] we don't have a strategy right
[3:42:12] now of how we're going to get
[3:42:16] there and I totally get it.
[3:42:17] I understand why either of your
[3:42:18] members would wake up in
[3:42:18] the morning and say well
[3:42:23] there's no hope and timeline
[3:42:23] and expectation of the efforts
[3:42:24] that are going to produce some
[3:42:24] change.
[3:42:25] How do we know where we're
[3:42:25] headed?
[3:42:29] So I think that's what's
[3:42:29] important moving forward is how
[3:42:30] we work together as a city.
[3:42:34] Work with each of you for
[3:42:35] members but also work
[3:42:36] collectively with the public to
[3:42:40] try to earn that trust to get
[3:42:41] some strategy moving forward
[3:42:42] and how we're going to achieve
[3:42:42] the resources that are
[3:42:47] necessary to fund not just
[3:42:48] public safety but tomorrow
[3:42:48] we're getting arguing over
[3:42:53] libraries and parks and we had
[3:42:54] a whole discussion of arts and
[3:42:54] culture and whether that's
[3:42:55] important to city and all these
[3:42:58] things continue to be lacking
[3:42:59] And if we don't make a
[3:42:59] concerted effort to actually
[3:43:00] turn that around it won't
[3:43:00] change.
[3:43:04] I'm pretty sure today and
[3:43:05] tomorrow we're going to be
[3:43:05] hearing commentary from folks
[3:43:06] who tell us that the city
[3:43:10] should simply be tightening its
[3:43:10] belt, that we should be living
[3:43:11] within the means that we have
[3:43:12] spending within the means that
[3:43:17] we have We're spending within
[3:43:17] the means that we have means
[3:43:18] leaving you all at the same
[3:43:19] level of funding that we've
[3:43:22] left you all that year after
[3:43:22] year.
[3:43:23] It means watching you fall
[3:43:24] further behind year after year
[3:43:28] compared to your your parallels
[3:43:29] not even in the city of Los
[3:43:29] Angeles but I'm going to guess
[3:43:30] even within this region alone
[3:43:30] that's a challenge.
[3:43:35] So I don't think we're in a
[3:43:35] position where we can just live
[3:43:36] by our means, just watch our
[3:43:40] spending because if that's all
[3:43:41] we're going to do, we're not
[3:43:42] going to get where we need to
[3:43:42] be.
[3:43:43] I'm certainly committed to
[3:43:43] figuring out how we can work
[3:43:47] together to to chart a better
[3:43:47] path.
[3:43:48] I hope everyone else here feels
[3:43:48] the same.
[3:43:48] Thank you.
[3:43:53] All right.
[3:43:54] Thank you.
[3:43:54] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem.
[3:43:55] We'll go next to Councilmember
[3:43:55] Vaughn Wolpert.
[3:43:56] Thank you.
[3:43:59] Council PRESIDENT So we're
[3:44:00] doing comment now than
[3:44:00] the public comments and we can
[3:44:01] comment again thank you I'm so
[3:44:02] I was confused at the process
[3:44:04] so again thank you for being
[3:44:05] here I appreciate all of you
[3:44:08] very much.
[3:44:09] And first of all one question
[3:44:09] I've always viewed lifeguards
[3:44:10] as part of public safety
[3:44:15] through time and they're not Is
[3:44:16] there a legal term that would
[3:44:17] need to change within the city
[3:44:17] of San Diego?
[3:44:20] >> We are recognized as public
[3:44:20] safety.
[3:44:21] It's outside of the city in
[3:44:22] the United States and at
[3:44:26] the state level they're not
[3:44:26] recognized as public safety
[3:44:27] officers for public first
[3:44:27] responders.
[3:44:31] There's no legal term that
[3:44:32] represents us as first
[3:44:33] responders even though
[3:44:36] frequently we find ourselves
[3:44:36] being the first person on scene
[3:44:37] for a lot of calls.
[3:44:38] >> Okay, I'd be happy to write
[3:44:39] letters to whomever in
[3:44:42] the state or federal government
[3:44:43] to know that because you work
[3:44:44] alongside all of our
[3:44:44] professional and saving lives
[3:44:48] and I appreciate what you do
[3:44:52] and the on behalf of course you
[3:44:53] are Second I Mark you're right
[3:44:53] we can't get continue to get
[3:44:59] into a rotating cycle of we
[3:45:00] raise enough compensation that
[3:45:01] we're not the bottom but then
[3:45:05] we get to the bottom again
[3:45:06] become a training ground
[3:45:07] because it is more expensive
[3:45:07] for us to train new
[3:45:08] firefighters, give them
[3:45:11] the expertise they need and
[3:45:12] then they leave And that
[3:45:12] happens over and over and over.
[3:45:13] And I remember a few years ago
[3:45:18] I was fighting hard to just
[3:45:18] increase the compensation for
[3:45:19] our wildfire helicopter team
[3:45:20] because what's the point in
[3:45:20] buying the helicopters if we
[3:45:23] don't have the staff to
[3:45:24] actually get them off
[3:45:24] the ground and get a crew
[3:45:25] inside to actually execute
[3:45:30] rescues and get the water to
[3:45:30] where we need it.
[3:45:31] So I'm glad that we did And
[3:45:32] it's showing they're probably
[3:45:33] out there right now actually
[3:45:34] saving us in one of Valley.
[3:45:35] But that worries me quite a bit
[3:45:35] too.
[3:45:36] We've already slipped down to
[3:45:36] the bottom of the compensation
[3:45:40] study.
[3:45:40] I'm also quite worried about
[3:45:41] the fact that we continue to
[3:45:45] take money from the ems fund
[3:45:46] out of the fire rescue
[3:45:52] department and this was set up
[3:45:53] so that we could actually have
[3:45:54] our own in-house, you know,
[3:45:54] paramedic training school and
[3:45:55] get people trained out to
[3:45:56] the extent of what you need a
[3:45:58] paramedic and stay within our
[3:45:58] department.
[3:46:03] I'll have to go outside and I'm
[3:46:04] I'm worried that we're going to
[3:46:05] continue to do this And so I
[3:46:05] think we need to start fighting
[3:46:06] back and saying no because this
[3:46:09] is revenue that you are working
[3:46:10] hard to bring to the city that
[3:46:11] should be used for the fire
[3:46:11] department.
[3:46:12] And I know we're thinking about
[3:46:17] a different model of how we
[3:46:18] deploy our bill say all of that
[3:46:18] And if we continue to do that
[3:46:19] we MAY recruit and train
[3:46:21] the people we're going to be in
[3:46:22] those ambulances might be city
[3:46:23] employees.
[3:46:23] So they also need to know that
[3:46:27] they can actually have a career
[3:46:28] here in San Diego and not be
[3:46:29] taken away by higher salaries
[3:46:30] in other jurisdictions.
[3:46:34] Can I ask right now in terms of
[3:46:35] what we haven't finished
[3:46:36] negotiating the current
[3:46:36] contract for the days I know we
[3:46:40] are in a budget deficit.
[3:46:40] Everybody is struggling right
[3:46:41] now because our city
[3:46:42] unfortunately did not pass that
[3:46:45] The sales tax increase Honestly
[3:46:46] if we had one that was just
[3:46:47] focused on public safety and
[3:46:47] infrastructure I'll bet you
[3:46:50] that would pass.
[3:46:51] Just a thought out there.
[3:46:52] But so I'm wondering what can
[3:46:54] we do this year even to try and
[3:47:01] help you know, have any
[3:47:06] treasure maps to you know,
[3:47:06] honestly there's been several
[3:47:12] attempts to identify revenue
[3:47:12] generation.
[3:47:13] Councilmember Rivera alluded to
[3:47:18] that We are in a definite
[3:47:19] challenging position in these
[3:47:24] economic times.
[3:47:25] It is a very easy thing for me
[3:47:25] to stand here and say on behalf
[3:47:26] of my membership that this is a
[3:47:29] priority issue because
[3:47:30] obviously I'm not saddled with
[3:47:30] running the entire city.
[3:47:31] I'm simply representing my
[3:47:35] membership.
[3:47:36] I obviously I'm biased.
[3:47:41] I know that there's definitely
[3:47:41] different services that
[3:47:42] everybody provides.
[3:47:42] I think a lot of them are
[3:47:47] wonderful and very important.
[3:47:48] I'm again biased when it comes
[3:47:49] to fire rescue because of
[3:47:52] the by virtue of what we do So
[3:47:53] short of having further
[3:47:54] discussions about how we do
[3:47:59] generate more interview revenue
[3:48:00] potential with at least some
[3:48:00] future initiatives and again
[3:48:05] doors are open.
[3:48:06] We're going to have a sit down
[3:48:07] and have a discussion about
[3:48:07] those kinds of outside the box
[3:48:11] ideas because there is no
[3:48:12] length that we won't go to is
[3:48:13] local 145 and service of our
[3:48:16] members and trying to right
[3:48:17] the wrongs of three decades.
[3:48:18] So yeah we're very open to
[3:48:22] conversations and and I think
[3:48:23] taking some of this stuff for
[3:48:23] sure.
[3:48:24] Okay Got it.
[3:48:24] Thank you.
[3:48:28] And my next question is all
[3:48:29] through our infrastructure and
[3:48:30] I know some of the facilities
[3:48:30] are operating out of are
[3:48:35] completely substandard.
[3:48:36] I mean there's a whole bit
[3:48:37] attendant and one of the fire
[3:48:37] stations is now a giant canvas
[3:48:41] Kevlar tent but need to stop.
[3:48:41] And also with the lifeguards
[3:48:42] I've been in some of your
[3:48:43] stations and it is pretty
[3:48:43] abysmal.
[3:48:46] I mean that ocean air just
[3:48:47] cracks everything apart.
[3:48:47] I do want to thank
[3:48:48] the lifeguards though for
[3:48:55] figuring out a revenue saving
[3:48:55] source by branding the people
[3:48:58] We talked to hundreds here and
[3:48:59] we should never be in a
[3:49:00] position where we're having to
[3:49:00] ask to put brand names on
[3:49:01] buildings to get them funded.
[3:49:04] I mean this is ridiculous Given
[3:49:05] this have we thought about
[3:49:05] doing that for them?
[3:49:11] Should be or the mission Beach
[3:49:12] Lifeguard Tower I cannot
[3:49:12] believe the price that they
[3:49:14] wanted to call was like what
[3:49:15] $33 million for one tower is
[3:49:21] ridiculous But yeah I'm not
[3:49:21] privy to the costs But yeah
[3:49:22] absolutely.
[3:49:26] Just to kind of second what
[3:49:27] local 145 the lifeguards are
[3:49:28] willing to work with whatever
[3:49:32] we think is going to make this
[3:49:33] the easiest transition
[3:49:33] possible.
[3:49:34] We're constantly trying to work
[3:49:38] alongside all the city council
[3:49:38] members to figure out ways for
[3:49:39] us to to work together to make
[3:49:40] to fill these gaps.
[3:49:44] As you said, those are one of
[3:49:45] the best parts of the job but
[3:49:45] it's also one of the worst
[3:49:50] parts of the job because it
[3:49:50] does just destroy everything
[3:49:51] that kind of comes in contact
[3:49:51] with.
[3:49:57] So as you said, brands
[3:49:57] partnerships, stuff along those
[3:49:58] lines they can make things That
[3:49:59] would definitely be something
[3:50:00] that I think the city could
[3:50:03] look into.
[3:50:03] That would be something that
[3:50:04] you guys would have to decide
[3:50:08] but I don't see Local 145 or
[3:50:09] Local 96 you know fighting it
[3:50:09] too much.
[3:50:10] We're just happy and we're
[3:50:14] looking for solutions and if we
[3:50:15] can find solutions together I
[3:50:15] think that's something that we
[3:50:16] would definitely be willing to
[3:50:20] talk about At the very least.
[3:50:20] Okay.
[3:50:21] Thank you.
[3:50:22] Well, I'm happy to reserve my
[3:50:22] questions for the rest of your
[3:50:26] public comment but thank you
[3:50:27] for what you do.
[3:50:27] You can't outsource number one
[3:50:28] and you can't not answer
[3:50:28] the call.
[3:50:32] You know and I know you guys
[3:50:33] are all working When I say guys
[3:50:34] I mean men, women, everybody
[3:50:38] longer hours and callbacks that
[3:50:39] you have to You can't say no to
[3:50:40] mandatory overtime And I know
[3:50:41] you have to go to the wildfires
[3:50:44] as well for strikes So anytime
[3:50:45] you would have off you're
[3:50:46] heading wildfires in their
[3:50:46] jurisdictions And I know that
[3:50:50] is incredibly taxing on you on
[3:50:51] your families and it's really
[3:50:52] been awful to see that spiral.
[3:50:57] So thank you for coming in and
[3:50:57] raising awareness of this
[3:50:58] because we need to do better as
[3:50:59] a city.
[3:50:59] >> Appreciate it.
[3:50:59] All right.
[3:51:00] Thank you.
[3:51:03] Councilmember Bumble.
[3:51:03] First we'll go next to Council
[3:51:04] member Campion.
[3:51:04] Thank you.
[3:51:05] Council PRESIDENT Want to thank
[3:51:06] both of our recognized employer
[3:51:07] organizations for being here
[3:51:08] and so many folks showing up in
[3:51:09] public and checking your cell
[3:51:12] phones to see how your
[3:51:13] colleagues are doing right now.
[3:51:14] I know you're worried about
[3:51:14] them.
[3:51:19] I appreciate the dichotomy of
[3:51:19] what we're seeing from Los
[3:51:20] Angeles versus San Diego and
[3:51:25] what the difference is and
[3:51:26] keeping pace And I know that
[3:51:31] given how far ahead L.A. Is
[3:51:32] 21,000 plus dollars a year at
[3:51:36] the starting end of the scale,
[3:51:37] if L.A. Increases by 3% every
[3:51:42] year, we would have to increase
[3:51:43] by 6% every year to catch them
[3:51:44] in ten years.
[3:51:52] So this is an L.A. And San
[3:51:53] Diego give or take a few things
[3:51:53] here.
[3:51:59] There are roughly the same cost
[3:51:59] of living a little bit more
[3:52:00] expensive for apartments here,
[3:52:04] a little bit more expensive for
[3:52:05] groceries and gasoline and
[3:52:05] transportation up there.
[3:52:10] So I think the counterpart that
[3:52:11] you chose is absolutely right.
[3:52:11] That is what we should peg
[3:52:16] ourselves to And say how are we
[3:52:16] going to get to that standard
[3:52:21] and aim for that And just
[3:52:22] thinking that we have to give
[3:52:27] twice the percentage in terms
[3:52:28] of increases to catch up It's
[3:52:28] daunting but why shouldn't we
[3:52:33] set that goal?
[3:52:34] Why shouldn't we prioritize it
[3:52:34] that way?
[3:52:35] I think we should.
[3:52:40] I wanted to point out a couple
[3:52:40] things too that didn't that
[3:52:41] came through but didn't weren't
[3:52:45] necessarily very explicit.
[3:52:46] The burnout of being
[3:52:51] understaffed means that
[3:52:52] the response times end up being
[3:52:52] slower.
[3:52:57] The folks leave to go somewhere
[3:52:58] else, that the cohesion of
[3:53:04] the units end up fracturing and
[3:53:04] those are incalculable.
[3:53:05] Those are invaluable things.
[3:53:09] You can't assign a dollar
[3:53:10] figure to that and ultimately
[3:53:16] the public just wants to know
[3:53:16] they're going to have someone
[3:53:17] show up on time and you do it
[3:53:18] over and over and over again.
[3:53:21] But we have to quantify this So
[3:53:22] I'm going to be looking at
[3:53:23] the contract and future
[3:53:28] contracts and say just how
[3:53:28] quickly are we closing in on
[3:53:29] L.A. To make sure that we keep
[3:53:30] people here?
[3:53:32] The second thing it was not
[3:53:33] brought up today but I do want
[3:53:38] to say in a public forum that
[3:53:39] the presumptions that
[3:53:39] the health care presumptions
[3:53:44] that the city ought to have in
[3:53:45] our milieux with fire and with
[3:53:46] our lifeguards should be at
[3:53:50] the highest standard recognize
[3:53:51] the most amount of ailments to
[3:53:52] take care of you in your
[3:53:52] retirements.
[3:53:57] I think that what a lot of
[3:53:58] people might not know is just
[3:53:58] the severe lack of sleep that
[3:53:59] firefighters and lifeguards
[3:54:03] have to go through itself over
[3:54:03] the course of a lifetime.
[3:54:04] It increases your chance of
[3:54:05] cancer and a whole bunch of
[3:54:05] other ailments And I know that
[3:54:08] that's hard to calculate in
[3:54:09] the long run, but I want every
[3:54:10] firefighter in lifeguard to
[3:54:11] know that if you get sick when
[3:54:15] you're old City of the city of
[3:54:16] San Diego is going to take care
[3:54:16] of you.
[3:54:17] Those are things that should be
[3:54:20] recognized in the mou as well
[3:54:21] as the dollar figure that we
[3:54:21] should be aiming for.
[3:54:22] So I appreciate you bringing up
[3:54:23] the math and know that we're
[3:54:23] fighting for more than just
[3:54:27] dollars but we're fighting for
[3:54:28] your families and we're
[3:54:28] fighting for your health in
[3:54:29] retirement as well.
[3:54:30] Thanks for always bringing
[3:54:30] those things up in private
[3:54:34] conversations with us as well.
[3:54:35] >> Thank you.
[3:54:35] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[3:54:36] Thank you.
[3:54:36] Council Member Camp Hill
[3:54:39] Council Member Foster Yes,
[3:54:40] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[3:54:45] And as my colleagues mentioned,
[3:54:46] thank you for for being here
[3:54:46] today.
[3:54:50] Thank you to your members for
[3:54:50] coming.
[3:54:51] I am surprised and continue to
[3:54:57] be surprised that lifeguards
[3:54:57] are not considered first
[3:54:58] responders And I always tell
[3:55:03] the story.
[3:55:04] One day when I was at the beach
[3:55:05] my son had graduated and I
[3:55:06] happened to go out to try and
[3:55:10] secure a fire.
[3:55:11] When you go show up at five in
[3:55:11] the morning right and camp out
[3:55:12] of the firing.
[3:55:15] But I must say it's a busy day,
[3:55:16] first day of summer basically.
[3:55:20] And one thing that I had
[3:55:21] the privilege to do was to
[3:55:22] actually watch our lifeguards
[3:55:26] And I was amazed at I felt like
[3:55:27] a lifeguard once they entered
[3:55:32] the water they never came out
[3:55:33] of the water as quick as they
[3:55:33] came back to shore as quick as
[3:55:34] they were right back in And it
[3:55:39] was it was all day.
[3:55:40] And so I think it's unfortunate
[3:55:40] and something that I think does
[3:55:44] need to be addressed long term
[3:55:45] I guess just for staff and I do
[3:55:50] appreciate the presentation but
[3:55:51] I think one thing that I have
[3:55:56] not been able to fully get my
[3:55:57] arms around as we talked about
[3:55:58] the city budget and as we were
[3:56:02] trying to deal with deficit and
[3:56:03] trying to make sure that we are
[3:56:09] in a position to provide
[3:56:09] resources whether that's p or
[3:56:10] mp.
[3:56:13] One thing is I have tried to
[3:56:14] look at our vacancies on
[3:56:18] finding some very interesting
[3:56:19] information.
[3:56:20] I'm finding that we have
[3:56:24] positions that are being
[3:56:25] reported as vacant dating back
[3:56:30] to as late as 2017 and 2018.
[3:56:31] Can you explain to me why we
[3:56:36] would have positions that are
[3:56:41] vacant dating back to 2017 and
[3:56:42] 2018 and what are we doing to
[3:56:43] carry those types of numbers
[3:56:48] and what impact would that have
[3:56:49] to um to to our current status
[3:56:53] as we are looking at in dealing
[3:56:54] with negotiations and contract
[3:56:55] as we look at starting salaries
[3:56:59] and things of that nature
[3:57:00] because I'm just lost as to why
[3:57:01] we would have a position that's
[3:57:04] been vacant since 2017.
[3:57:05] I'm not saying it's fire so
[3:57:05] please don't think that I'm
[3:57:13] just in what I have seen
[3:57:14] Thinking of the number of us
[3:57:15] for each one of the vacancy
[3:57:15] information is specific for
[3:57:19] that position So maybe that
[3:57:19] person was on leave.
[3:57:20] If you have some examples we
[3:57:21] can look into those specific
[3:57:24] one the Department of Finance
[3:57:25] works very closely with
[3:57:26] departments to try to maintain
[3:57:26] the status of the vacancies and
[3:57:27] fill them as actively as
[3:57:27] possible.
[3:57:31] But each and every
[3:57:31] classification is uniquely
[3:57:32] different depending on
[3:57:32] the circumstances.
[3:57:36] >> Okay, I appreciate that And
[3:57:37] I'll give you an example.
[3:57:38] As we were looking at
[3:57:38] the police department I have
[3:57:42] police positions or an officer
[3:57:42] positions that have been vacant
[3:57:43] since 2017.
[3:57:44] My question would be if it's a
[3:57:44] budgeted position clearly we're
[3:57:49] carrying the salary, right.
[3:57:49] Which if that position has been
[3:57:54] vacant since 2017, what are we
[3:57:55] doing with those dollars?
[3:57:56] I feel as if we are just
[3:57:56] dropping the dollars to
[3:58:00] the bottom and using it as a
[3:58:01] slush fund to fund whatever
[3:58:01] priority is there.
[3:58:02] So I guess that's what I'm
[3:58:07] trying to to better understand
[3:58:07] and get to the bottom of that
[3:58:08] makes sense.
[3:58:14] As one example I think
[3:58:14] Councilmember Ellis if I don't
[3:58:15] know for a lot of to come up
[3:58:18] but there are a few things to
[3:58:19] you that one have to have a
[3:58:20] conversation with your office
[3:58:23] as well.
[3:58:24] Just because a position is in
[3:58:25] the budget does not necessarily
[3:58:29] mean that it isn't and it
[3:58:30] remains unfilled.
[3:58:30] Doesn't mean that we are
[3:58:31] setting aside dollars for it.
[3:58:32] We do have what we call a
[3:58:34] budget or personnel expenditure
[3:58:35] savings or vacancy factor that
[3:58:36] we apply to all departments.
[3:58:36] So while you MAY see in fte in
[3:58:41] a budget if it is vacant for
[3:58:42] the entire year in many cases
[3:58:43] there are not actual dollars
[3:58:46] attached to it with particular
[3:58:47] positions in some departments
[3:58:48] where there are several
[3:58:54] the same classifications we've
[3:58:54] had like say five different of
[3:58:55] ones or whatever the position
[3:58:59] is There's frequently turnover
[3:58:59] in positions that are also in
[3:59:01] that same classification.
[3:59:06] So there is a chance that one
[3:59:07] of those positions that you'll
[3:59:07] see see being vacant for 2017
[3:59:10] there would have been people
[3:59:11] being hired and people leaving
[3:59:11] from that classification of
[3:59:12] positions but that actual
[3:59:17] personnel number MAY not have
[3:59:18] had a person put into it.
[3:59:18] Well it could have If we just
[3:59:19] use a different personnel
[3:59:20] number it's the same
[3:59:22] classification but that gets
[3:59:23] into some really nitty gritty
[3:59:23] details.
[3:59:24] We're probably better to spend
[3:59:29] the time just you and me
[3:59:30] sitting at a spreadsheet as
[3:59:30] opposed to talking about it
[3:59:31] here.
[3:59:33] But I'm happy to follow up and
[3:59:34] and I guess I appreciate that
[3:59:40] clarity But even as we talk
[3:59:41] about I guess a term used with
[3:59:46] nitty gritty details, I don't
[3:59:47] know how we fix the structural
[3:59:47] deficit if we don't spend
[3:59:48] the time to go through
[3:59:51] the nitty gritty details and to
[3:59:52] put the budget in a position to
[3:59:53] where it is transparent.
[3:59:57] Can we understand what is in
[3:59:58] front of us And I will just
[3:59:58] follow that up with unbudgeted
[3:59:59] positions.
[4:00:03] i think there are so many
[4:00:04] things that are being moved It
[4:00:05] is very, very difficult to
[4:00:09] understand at any given time
[4:00:09] Where are we truly at
[4:00:10] financially so we can make
[4:00:15] the appropriate decisions that
[4:00:16] we need to make to make sure
[4:00:16] when we address the structural
[4:00:17] deficit and as I said before
[4:00:21] too that we are providing our
[4:00:21] employees our resources to meet
[4:00:27] the obligations that they are
[4:00:27] being asked to meet.
[4:00:28] And so I just feel until we
[4:00:32] deal with what we need to deal
[4:00:33] with as we have a financial
[4:00:37] system that I'm sure we spent
[4:00:38] probably a billion or so on
[4:00:38] thus far, I just think there's
[4:00:43] somehow we need to get into
[4:00:44] that detail and make sure we
[4:00:44] understand it so we can be on
[4:00:49] solid on a solid foundation as
[4:00:50] I am a I'm a builder.
[4:00:51] I always like to be on a solid
[4:00:52] foundation so we can move this
[4:00:56] city forward properly.
[4:00:57] Well, we'll work with you.
[4:00:58] Those are certainly important
[4:00:58] details.
[4:00:59] I stand back a little bit just
[4:01:02] for comparison to Los Angeles
[4:01:03] just to get to some of
[4:01:04] the comments that I thought
[4:01:04] were very present
[4:01:08] Councilmember, we had I
[4:01:09] appreciate it for comparison.
[4:01:10] It is a very similar city to us
[4:01:11] in terms of our cost of living
[4:01:14] and the general cost of doing
[4:01:15] business.
[4:01:16] They have a higher sales tax
[4:01:16] rate that goes directly to
[4:01:17] their city than we do.
[4:01:20] They have a higher hotel tax
[4:01:20] rate that goes directly to
[4:01:21] the city and we do They have a
[4:01:22] utilities user tax.
[4:01:22] The city of San Diego does not
[4:01:27] have any They have a parking
[4:01:27] occupancy tax.
[4:01:28] The city of San Diego does not
[4:01:31] have any They have a documented
[4:01:31] transfer tax for the two times
[4:01:32] or more the city of San Diego
[4:01:33] starting the transfer tax They
[4:01:37] have a business gross receipts
[4:01:37] tax.
[4:01:38] The city does not have a
[4:01:39] business gross receipts tax
[4:01:43] They have an enormous we larger
[4:01:44] tax base and the number of
[4:01:45] taxes and revenues that are
[4:01:45] going into them.
[4:01:49] The city of San Diego does that
[4:01:50] factors into what they can
[4:01:51] afford to pay their employees
[4:01:51] and that factors in to
[4:01:52] the limited amount that we have
[4:01:52] for the services that people
[4:01:58] are demanding.
[4:02:04] All right good counsel present
[4:02:04] .
[4:02:05] >> All right.
[4:02:05] Thank you, Councilmember
[4:02:05] Foster.
[4:02:06] We'll go next to Councilmember
[4:02:07] Campbell.
[4:02:07] Thank you so much.
[4:02:10] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:02:11] I wanted just a little bit
[4:02:12] different First of all, I want
[4:02:16] to say that the first
[4:02:16] responsibility of government is
[4:02:17] the safety of the people and
[4:02:21] that our first responders which
[4:02:21] I have always felt included
[4:02:27] lifeguards, firemen and police
[4:02:28] and paramedics and our medics
[4:02:33] and our ambulance services.
[4:02:33] First of all, thank you.
[4:02:40] You are number one.
[4:02:40] You are what we need the most
[4:02:41] of this is our number one
[4:02:45] responsibility is government.
[4:02:45] Number two, when I saw your
[4:02:46] eight years ago our firemen
[4:02:51] police and lifeguards were paid
[4:02:56] 28, 29 and 35 compared to
[4:02:56] the 30 cities with which our
[4:02:57] personnel people would compare
[4:03:01] us to.
[4:03:02] I thought this was appalling.
[4:03:03] I immediately went to work to
[4:03:07] raise it.
[4:03:08] My goal was to raise it to
[4:03:09] number one position of all
[4:03:13] those 30 cities we got at least
[4:03:18] halfway there.
[4:03:24] Now I'd like to ask who are
[4:03:24] the three that we compare to
[4:03:25] And I haven't heard the numbers
[4:03:29] for this year but I thought we
[4:03:30] were still at least in a median
[4:03:31] position.
[4:03:31] Am I incorrect?
[4:03:34] Have we slipped back down to
[4:03:40] 28, 29th and 30th they're
[4:03:40] looking at up In the meantime
[4:03:45] let me say lifeguards thank you
[4:03:45] .
[4:03:46] I know that you saved thousands
[4:03:51] and thousands of lives every
[4:03:52] year with with water rescue
[4:03:53] especially tourists in
[4:03:58] the ocean And I don't think
[4:03:58] the general public in San Diego
[4:03:59] realizes how many thousands of
[4:04:04] lives you guys save.
[4:04:05] And I want to restate that in
[4:04:05] the month of MARCH which as we
[4:04:10] all remember was very hot this
[4:04:11] year you guys saved about 800
[4:04:16] people from drowning.
[4:04:17] And I also want to thank you
[4:04:17] because you do the water
[4:04:22] rescues during floods and you
[4:04:23] have saved many lives that way.
[4:04:24] You have gone all over this
[4:04:28] nation doing water rescues And
[4:04:29] I so appreciate that And I know
[4:04:34] we all do So I do not want you
[4:04:34] to be underpaid.
[4:04:35] I don't think any of us want
[4:04:35] you to be underpaid.
[4:04:41] Of course the lifeguards
[4:04:42] station and will be that a tin
[4:04:46] can When I got elected Scott
[4:04:46] Peters came over my house.
[4:04:47] He was our congressman then.
[4:04:48] He had been PRESIDENT Of
[4:04:52] the council and he had been
[4:04:53] the head of the Environment
[4:04:53] Committee and he asked me what
[4:04:54] committee I want to be head of
[4:04:55] and I said environment.
[4:04:58] So it was perfect that he was
[4:04:58] there.
[4:04:59] He said What can I do to help?
[4:05:00] I said We need a new lifeguard
[4:05:00] station.
[4:05:04] It'll be He said I'll do what I
[4:05:04] can to help.
[4:05:05] And he tried to get money from
[4:05:10] the federal government for us.
[4:05:11] Now you know the problems we've
[4:05:15] had with the federal government
[4:05:15] .
[4:05:16] Nevertheless we should have had
[4:05:16] that done.
[4:05:17] We should have had it built.
[4:05:22] We went through a variety of
[4:05:22] exercises with our finance
[4:05:23] department.
[4:05:23] Our police department was
[4:05:28] willing to share with
[4:05:29] the budgeting of this so that
[4:05:30] they could also have a station
[4:05:30] where they could write their
[4:05:34] reports whenever at
[4:05:34] the beaches.
[4:05:35] But this has not come to
[4:05:39] fruition and it was horrible
[4:05:40] eight years ago when I looked
[4:05:46] at it and it's worse now So I
[4:05:46] feel for you.
[4:05:47] I feel for you and I think we
[4:05:48] all do But especially because
[4:05:52] so much of my district is beach
[4:05:53] area I definitely, definitely
[4:05:57] feel for you and I definitely
[4:05:58] have witnessed what you go
[4:05:58] through.
[4:05:59] So do we have that answer?
[4:06:05] Yes.
[4:06:06] Councilor Campbell based on our
[4:06:07] recent total compensation
[4:06:07] survey which we do in
[4:06:10] preparation for negotiation,
[4:06:10] the four new hires the 145
[4:06:11] represented overall
[4:06:15] classification is 4.9% below
[4:06:16] market median.
[4:06:16] So in other words we'd have to
[4:06:21] be 4.9% to get to market median
[4:06:21] for their overall
[4:06:22] classification.
[4:06:23] Now each of the individual
[4:06:23] classifications have different
[4:06:24] amounts but that's for
[4:06:28] the average for the entire
[4:06:29] bargaining unit.
[4:06:29] But that's for fire.
[4:06:32] That's for level 145
[4:06:33] representative wage.
[4:06:34] What about lifeguard?
[4:06:34] Well, lifeguards are difficult
[4:06:37] because we don't have 30 we can
[4:06:38] compare with because not too
[4:06:38] many people have the beaches.
[4:06:39] We have not too many cities
[4:06:43] have that.
[4:06:43] So I know we don't compare to
[4:06:48] 30 but we did compare to what
[4:06:48] ten others?
[4:06:48] Yeah.
[4:06:54] So for local effects we are 1%
[4:06:54] above the market median based
[4:06:55] on that total compensation
[4:06:55] survey.
[4:06:56] But as you said we're difficult
[4:07:00] to compare to other agencies.
[4:07:01] That's the closest that we
[4:07:01] have.
[4:07:04] It's for a very small number.
[4:07:05] It's 45 classifications are
[4:07:06] surveyed and out of that total
[4:07:20] there is apologies Once again
[4:07:20] there's about five agencies
[4:07:21] that have similar
[4:07:22] classifications that are
[4:07:27] similar in nature so that
[4:07:27] the comparison is the 1% to
[4:07:27] that.
[4:07:30] So out of the classes it's
[4:07:31] three.
[4:07:31] So we're we're we're going
[4:07:32] we're backsliding a little bit
[4:07:37] on the fire almost 5% and we're
[4:07:43] more median on the lifeguards
[4:07:44] But we need to we need to do
[4:07:45] better And I still have
[4:07:48] the goal of 100% of those my
[4:07:49] last year on council I'm sorry
[4:07:54] about that but I was very
[4:07:55] interested in what the idea had
[4:07:56] to say about the various fees
[4:08:00] that Los Angeles can collect
[4:08:00] that we don't.
[4:08:01] They have also the second
[4:08:02] largest city in America.
[4:08:07] They have at least ten times
[4:08:08] more population than we have.
[4:08:08] So that makes it better.
[4:08:13] However, I must say also I grew
[4:08:13] up in Colorado.
[4:08:14] I've lived in many places
[4:08:14] around the country.
[4:08:19] I have never seen a city not
[4:08:19] have an income tax.
[4:08:20] The city does not have an
[4:08:24] income tax.
[4:08:25] Not smart for a politician to
[4:08:26] talk about tax But you know
[4:08:30] what cities need income.
[4:08:31] We have a lot of income one
[4:08:35] fourth of it for a general fund
[4:08:36] we get from property tax.
[4:08:37] We add $0.12 on the dollar from
[4:08:42] the county on our property tax
[4:08:42] and a lot of our property tax
[4:08:47] goes to schools.
[4:08:48] So that's good because we have
[4:08:49] to we have to help our schools
[4:08:54] But is this right?
[4:08:55] When I was in the legislature
[4:09:00] and I wasn't even running for
[4:09:00] office I asked him about this
[4:09:01] and he said he he had
[4:09:06] the legislate idea get in touch
[4:09:06] with me.
[4:09:07] And what we found out was that
[4:09:12] the legislature, the state
[4:09:13] legislature of Sacramento
[4:09:18] decides how much percent
[4:09:19] the cities in the county are
[4:09:20] going to get out of that county
[4:09:20] property tax.
[4:09:24] The legislature decides not at
[4:09:30] the local people legislature.
[4:09:30] So that's one thing.
[4:09:35] Now our our $0.12 was decided
[4:09:36] probably 1950 when the county
[4:09:36] provided most of the services
[4:09:42] to the people who lived in San
[4:09:42] Diego County.
[4:09:43] We were very small city then
[4:09:47] but it hasn't changed since and
[4:09:48] it's supposed to be based on
[4:09:53] the number of services provided
[4:09:54] by that governmental entity.
[4:09:55] So we need to tell our people
[4:10:00] in Sacramento and I'm sure
[4:10:01] every other big city in
[4:10:02] the state is going through this
[4:10:06] although we are the second
[4:10:07] largest next to L.A. We need to
[4:10:11] tell them change that it's out
[4:10:11] of date.
[4:10:12] We need more percent of our
[4:10:13] property tax to come back to
[4:10:17] San Diego.
[4:10:18] So that's one thing we need to
[4:10:18] do.
[4:10:19] Another thing we need to
[4:10:23] consider as citizens think
[4:10:24] about it Would it kill you to
[4:10:29] pay a half a percent of
[4:10:30] whatever it is you pay to
[4:10:30] the state income tax?
[4:10:31] No.
[4:10:35] Would it help your city?
[4:10:35] Yes.
[4:10:36] Think about that.
[4:10:37] I know people hate to even
[4:10:41] think about taxes.
[4:10:42] I don't blame you.
[4:10:43] We all hate paying taxes but we
[4:10:47] have to if we want services we
[4:10:48] have to pay for them And if we
[4:10:49] want to pay our people an
[4:10:53] excellent wage we have to raise
[4:10:53] the money.
[4:10:54] So we have to think of new and
[4:10:58] different ways and we have to
[4:10:59] look at all those extra fees
[4:11:00] that are against and figure out
[4:11:05] how we can help so that we have
[4:11:06] more budget so that we can
[4:11:10] raise the wages.
[4:11:11] And something else I'd just
[4:11:12] like to say to my colleagues to
[4:11:13] consider and that is that there
[4:11:17] has been a big push to give
[4:11:18] something like $10.3 million to
[4:11:18] the arts this year.
[4:11:23] I believe last year I know
[4:11:24] somebody out there can tell me
[4:11:24] how much we gave to the arts
[4:11:25] last year.
[4:11:32] Was it 4.7 million?
[4:11:33] Do you remember Rolando I don't
[4:11:38] I don't recall exactly but it
[4:11:39] was nowhere near the 10.3.
[4:11:40] >> Some people want to get it
[4:11:40] this year because you're
[4:11:44] talking about paying for
[4:11:45] the arts and for the arts Last
[4:11:49] year last year 11.8 million 11
[4:11:50] point How many Point eight.
[4:11:54] >> Okay So last year was 11
[4:11:55] million.
[4:11:55] This year we're talking 10.3
[4:11:56] million.
[4:11:56] Yes.
[4:12:00] Okay.
[4:12:00] All right.
[4:12:01] Well, we need to give money to
[4:12:01] the arts.
[4:12:02] Why?
[4:12:06] Because the arts bring us
[4:12:06] money.
[4:12:07] The arts bring us revenue and
[4:12:11] the arts for our souls So we do
[4:12:12] need money for the arts.
[4:12:12] But you know what?
[4:12:13] Public safety number one.
[4:12:18] So I asked my colleagues
[4:12:18] consider other things that you
[4:12:19] want to fund.
[4:12:24] Is it possible is it possible
[4:12:25] that we can shift some things
[4:12:30] so that our people get a decent
[4:12:30] wage?
[4:12:31] Think about it We might not be
[4:12:36] able to do this year but let's
[4:12:37] let's all put our heads
[4:12:38] together and think of ways that
[4:12:42] we can have more money so our
[4:12:42] city is not starving for funds.
[4:12:43] >> Thank you.
[4:12:43] Council PRESIDENT Thank you.
[4:12:50] Council member Campbell Council
[4:12:51] Member Lippert I about Council
[4:12:51] PRESIDENT I'll be very brief.
[4:12:52] >> My colleagues have had a lot
[4:12:53] of good comments.
[4:12:55] I just like to take
[4:12:55] the opportunity to say thank
[4:12:56] you.
[4:12:56] You had an extraordinary number
[4:13:00] of calls in my district which
[4:13:01] is this urban area that goes
[4:13:02] without her permission valid.
[4:13:05] You know, you get a lot of
[4:13:06] medical calls for people
[4:13:07] experiencing homelessness.
[4:13:07] You've got all the high rises
[4:13:11] with fire alarms, crashes on
[4:13:12] the freeways.
[4:13:13] The lifeguards respond to
[4:13:18] floods and the river when it
[4:13:18] rains.
[4:13:19] I know you have your hands
[4:13:19] full.
[4:13:20] It's a difficult job.
[4:13:25] I just want you to have I just
[4:13:25] appreciate it.
[4:13:25] Thank you.
[4:13:26] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:13:26] All right.
[4:13:27] Thank you, gentlemen.
[4:13:30] I would not see anybody else in
[4:13:30] the lights.
[4:13:31] I'll offer a few closing
[4:13:35] thoughts myself.
[4:13:36] Thank you for what you all do.
[4:13:37] I mean just bottom line I just
[4:13:41] saw that the rental fire,
[4:13:42] the forward progress on that
[4:13:42] has been stopped.
[4:13:43] That didn't happen magically It
[4:13:44] happened because an amazing
[4:13:44] number of individuals and
[4:13:47] pieces of equipment were out
[4:13:48] there to make that stand and
[4:13:49] prevent as far as I understand
[4:13:53] the structural damage out
[4:13:54] there, there's a lot of mopping
[4:13:55] up left to do but that happens
[4:13:59] because of the training,
[4:13:59] the expertise and
[4:14:00] the commitment that you all
[4:14:00] have individually and
[4:14:05] collectively going forward.
[4:14:06] Lifeguards I think I told
[4:14:06] the story More than one
[4:14:12] lifeguard saved my daughter,
[4:14:13] her friend from a retired Donna
[4:14:14] Lloyd Shores many, many years
[4:14:14] ago.
[4:14:18] So I always felt that was
[4:14:18] personal.
[4:14:19] The couple of things One I'm
[4:14:20] old enough to remember when
[4:14:20] there was proposal to put
[4:14:24] advertisements on lifeguard
[4:14:25] towers and I was down there was
[4:14:25] my first tv appearance They
[4:14:29] held our advertisements.
[4:14:30] I think I've changed my mind.
[4:14:31] If the Acme Company wants to
[4:14:35] sponsor the new Mission Beach
[4:14:36] Lifeguard I'm all in I tell you
[4:14:37] because we got to be creative.
[4:14:41] That's how we're really going
[4:14:42] to do the equipment side And
[4:14:42] when we take the pressure off
[4:14:43] the budget on the equipment
[4:14:47] side and facility side, then we
[4:14:48] can talk about the salary side,
[4:14:49] you know, because that's
[4:14:53] incredibly important.
[4:14:54] But I do want to talk about
[4:14:55] facilities a little bit because
[4:14:59] I've seen in my district
[4:15:00] amazing support by
[4:15:00] the community on the fire site
[4:15:04] Fire Station 21, one of
[4:15:04] the better equipped fire
[4:15:05] stations Fire Station 13 got
[4:15:10] totally rebuilt.
[4:15:11] You see San Diego paid for Fire
[4:15:11] Station 52.
[4:15:12] That's that's got to be
[4:15:16] the newest fire station in
[4:15:17] the entire city And I believe
[4:15:17] the fire station 16 is actually
[4:15:18] being remodeled as we speak
[4:15:22] through strictly private
[4:15:23] private dollars.
[4:15:24] >> We got to get some of that
[4:15:28] activity on the lifeguard side
[4:15:29] ,North Beebe lifeguard station
[4:15:30] as a whole different question
[4:15:33] But I think one thank you for
[4:15:33] those folks that understand
[4:15:34] the importance of doing
[4:15:34] everything that the private
[4:15:38] sector do to can make life just
[4:15:39] a little bit easier for the 24
[4:15:44] hour shifts the long night etc.
[4:15:45] Etc. But that what we have to
[4:15:46] do better I think my colleagues
[4:15:51] have said it very, very well.
[4:15:51] The only other thing I'll throw
[4:15:52] out there is something that my
[4:15:57] office has been looking into I
[4:15:57] think others.
[4:15:58] Proposition 172 I think it was
[4:16:03] before most of you were even
[4:16:04] born and I just quit in 1993.
[4:16:08] So which were supposed to be a
[4:16:09] safety sales tax to make up for
[4:16:10] how much money was swung over
[4:16:10] into education?
[4:16:13] >> I don't think the city gets
[4:16:14] anywhere near its fair share of
[4:16:14] that safety sales tax.
[4:16:15] That would be a big bump, very
[4:16:20] targeted there.
[4:16:21] It's easy for me to talk about
[4:16:21] the little more complicated
[4:16:22] because the county would have
[4:16:23] to give up some of their money
[4:16:27] for for it to flow to us
[4:16:27] instead.
[4:16:28] But there's other ways in
[4:16:29] addition to the one my
[4:16:29] colleagues said So we have to
[4:16:31] figure it out.
[4:16:32] We're in the middle of I'm sure
[4:16:32] intense negotiation.
[4:16:33] You have good representatives
[4:16:34] at the negotiating table going
[4:16:38] forward So thank you for
[4:16:38] the good work.
[4:16:39] Thank you for taking the time
[4:16:39] this afternoon to make your
[4:16:44] case and tell your story which
[4:16:45] is a very personal one.
[4:16:45] So thank you again as anybody
[4:16:49] else in the lights you can take
[4:16:49] a seat and we will go to public
[4:16:50] comment.
[4:16:54] There will be one more time for
[4:16:55] council members to speak on
[4:17:00] this item So public comment we
[4:17:01] have three speakers here.
[4:17:01] >> Max Schmidt if you can
[4:17:05] please come up to
[4:17:06] the microphone After that we
[4:17:06] have allegedly Audra and then
[4:17:17] Senator and then let me just
[4:17:17] set your time.
[4:17:18] You'll have a minute and a
[4:17:19] half.
[4:17:23] Please proceed.
[4:17:24] >> Hi.
[4:17:24] On item 69 the presentation on
[4:17:28] the status of vacancy is
[4:17:29] recruitment and retention
[4:17:30] efforts for the fire
[4:17:30] departments a very personal
[4:17:34] issue for me And the reason why
[4:17:38] is because when I got on 5150
[4:17:39] by Communist for simply talking
[4:17:40] about reincarnation and
[4:17:44] teleporting on the Internet,
[4:17:45] the fire department was used to
[4:17:46] try to frame me as mentally ill
[4:17:50] as well and my voice will not
[4:17:51] be silenced by communists 5150
[4:17:52] lost My voice will not be
[4:17:57] silenced by the Communists
[4:17:58] saying I am mentally ill Also
[4:18:01] they didn't say 5150 to me held
[4:18:02] me in a psych ward for three
[4:18:07] months and inside the psych
[4:18:08] ward they abused me just as
[4:18:08] much as I'm being abused.
[4:18:09] Currently at the Alpha Project
[4:18:12] homeless shelter staff I'm
[4:18:13] being abused everywhere I go by
[4:18:18] Freemasons following me around
[4:18:18] with an omnipresent audible
[4:18:19] voice saying my thoughts out
[4:18:20] loud and criticizing me And I'm
[4:18:24] not crazy Down with the occult
[4:18:25] i'm not crazy And also I don't
[4:18:30] want to say something about
[4:18:31] the city council because
[4:18:31] they're kind of antagonizing me
[4:18:36] as I sit back there and wait to
[4:18:37] speak they're saying we're
[4:18:37] going to 5150 You if you keep
[4:18:42] it up going to 5150 and keep it
[4:18:43] up and I call your bluff you're
[4:18:44] not going to see it.
[4:18:45] You want 50 me right Turn it
[4:18:46] ten times and look where it's
[4:18:47] got you next Exposing a new
[4:18:47] world order like never been
[4:18:51] before You're a reincarnated
[4:18:51] possessed teleporting telepath
[4:18:52] You know it allegedly Order If
[4:19:02] you can please come forward.
[4:19:02] So there's always a domino
[4:19:03] effect Everything that you guys
[4:19:08] do in 2021 and beyond when you
[4:19:08] guys were implementing your
[4:19:13] vaccine mandates you lost quite
[4:19:14] a significant amount of public
[4:19:15] safety workers And we've been
[4:19:19] trying to make up
[4:19:19] the difference ever since.
[4:19:20] And it's like if you did
[4:19:21] prioritize public safety it
[4:19:25] wouldn't be like this And you
[4:19:26] always always want to scapegoat
[4:19:26] like oh it's problems with
[4:19:27] the federal government Now you
[4:19:31] guys have plenty of money, you
[4:19:32] get billions of our dollars and
[4:19:32] you guys aren't good stewards
[4:19:36] of it but yet you want to now
[4:19:37] come in and probably you're
[4:19:37] going to bring in some kind of
[4:19:41] income tax for the people.
[4:19:42] Right?
[4:19:42] All the things that L.A. Has
[4:19:43] And it's like I mean if you
[4:19:47] guys were spending it wisely,
[4:19:48] we wouldn't have to be making
[4:19:49] cuts like this.
[4:19:49] I mean the people that are here
[4:19:52] should be making the kind of
[4:19:53] money that you guys make But
[4:19:54] you sit up here on the dais and
[4:19:54] you're the ones that are
[4:19:58] the arbiters of whether or not
[4:19:59] they're going to be able to
[4:20:00] make a decent wage And it's
[4:20:04] like they're the ones that are
[4:20:05] on the front lines doing
[4:20:05] the work while you guys sit up
[4:20:06] here and pretend that you are
[4:20:09] significant when it's actually
[4:20:10] them and people that are
[4:20:10] actually, you know, putting
[4:20:15] their lives on the line And
[4:20:16] it's just sad because you act
[4:20:17] like there's just not enough
[4:20:17] money now there's plenty of
[4:20:18] money.
[4:20:21] >> You're just misusing it And
[4:20:22] if you weren't then people like
[4:20:23] them wouldn't be, you know,
[4:20:23] trying to figure out how to
[4:20:27] just survive while you know,
[4:20:27] making sure other people
[4:20:28] survive.
[4:20:32] So it's just sad because it's
[4:20:33] like I mean you're going to
[4:20:33] need them at some point.
[4:20:34] I bet you're going to wish that
[4:20:35] you paid a more when they come
[4:20:36] to you including commentaries
[4:20:46] and other First of all thank
[4:20:47] you everyone for
[4:20:52] the presentation and from
[4:20:53] the union speakers and for
[4:20:53] everyone who came out today.
[4:20:58] Love you.
[4:21:03] So a big question is how we
[4:21:03] care.
[4:21:04] Thank you.
[4:21:09] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[4:21:10] how we care how we care about
[4:21:14] our employees and how we care
[4:21:20] about living within our means.
[4:21:25] Thank you PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[4:21:25] .
[4:21:26] Policies and procedures too
[4:21:31] many moving parts.
[4:21:36] If one of our employees studied
[4:21:36] those policies and procedures
[4:21:42] would they understand them?
[4:21:43] Would they be able to speak
[4:21:44] them with us and figure them
[4:21:47] out and say what's working and
[4:21:48] what's not working?
[4:21:52] I don't know.
[4:21:53] Are they hindering the policies
[4:21:58] and procedures?
[4:22:03] Are they hindering us from
[4:22:04] caring about our employees and
[4:22:08] living within our means?
[4:22:09] Can we even do both?
[4:22:13] Isn't there a big question?
[4:22:20] >> Let us share our stories and
[4:22:21] let us stay together on this.
[4:22:22] You can all comment.
[4:22:23] The five minute timer has
[4:22:24] concluded going to those
[4:22:25] participating remotely starting
[4:22:26] with Hector If you can please
[4:22:29] unmute.
[4:22:30] >> Thanks for taking my call.
[4:22:35] I say get the firemen $20,000
[4:22:36] raise for the new guys and then
[4:22:40] we'll instrument the sales tax
[4:22:41] program 10% In addition to all
[4:22:45] the politicians in San Diego
[4:22:46] and California who buy things
[4:22:49] that stores and you'll be a
[4:22:50] pilot program.
[4:22:51] We'll see how that works for
[4:22:51] you guys.
[4:22:55] 10% added to your sales tax to
[4:22:56] pay for the raised for
[4:23:00] the firemen And let's put 80
[4:23:01] new units on the thing in
[4:23:05] Mission Beach the fire the new
[4:23:05] lifeguard tower will put two
[4:23:06] eight units on top of it and
[4:23:11] let the fire let the lifeguards
[4:23:12] live in up.
[4:23:12] It'll be great.
[4:23:16] It'll be good recruiting thing
[4:23:16] and let the firemen and
[4:23:17] the lifeguards build it.
[4:23:21] They can do it though.
[4:23:22] Don't sub it out.
[4:23:23] Let them build it will pay them
[4:23:26] They know they can do the demo.
[4:23:26] They can dig.
[4:23:27] These guys have jobs.
[4:23:28] They've caught some of our
[4:23:32] contractors.
[4:23:33] I know they can do it.
[4:23:33] Let them do it.
[4:23:34] Don't beat it up.
[4:23:37] Some other guys will watch it.
[4:23:38] Make sure they don't do
[4:23:39] the gouges but it'll be great.
[4:23:43] They'd like to 80 units We
[4:23:47] could advertise in L.A. For
[4:23:48] girls to come down here to live
[4:23:49] in up to be lifeguards.
[4:23:52] It's a no brainer.
[4:23:53] Any woman in L.A. Would gladly
[4:23:57] come to San Diego to be a
[4:23:58] lifeguard.
[4:23:58] I know some of those guys too.
[4:23:59] That's what they did.
[4:24:03] They don't want to stay in L.A.
[4:24:03] The jungle they go there.
[4:24:04] Thank you.
[4:24:04] Your time has concluded.
[4:24:06] Tony.
[4:24:10] If you complete on you.
[4:24:11] >> Hey, can you hear me?
[4:24:12] Yes.
[4:24:16] Please proceed.
[4:24:17] >> I just wanted to say I've
[4:24:18] been really inspired hearing
[4:24:21] what everyone's been
[4:24:22] contributing to this
[4:24:22] discussion.
[4:24:23] Thank you for the presentations
[4:24:26] by the fire department and by
[4:24:27] the firefighters excuse me By
[4:24:27] your lifeguards.
[4:24:31] I wanted to start by thanking
[4:24:32] council member PRESIDENT Pro
[4:24:36] Tem Kent Lee for reconsidering
[4:24:37] your position on Floc as we're
[4:24:41] having this discussion about
[4:24:41] public safety.
[4:24:47] Yes, Councilmember Campbell I
[4:24:47] agree with you.
[4:24:48] Public safety is number one but
[4:24:49] we need to also consider smart
[4:24:52] public safety.
[4:24:52] Lifeguarding is smart public
[4:24:53] safety.
[4:24:53] Giving money to lifeguards is
[4:24:57] smart Public safety giving
[4:24:58] money to apps that are not
[4:25:02] effective, that are targeting
[4:25:03] the wrong people that are
[4:25:03] causing us lawsuits.
[4:25:07] 3 million right now is what
[4:25:07] the claim that's being sought
[4:25:11] by the two people that were
[4:25:11] falsely arrested by the flock
[4:25:15] cameras as was reported
[4:25:16] yesterday in the Times of San
[4:25:16] Diego.
[4:25:17] But I love what you said, MISS
[4:25:17] Campbell.
[4:25:21] I totally agree with you.
[4:25:22] We do need to think about
[4:25:25] having if we if we want to fund
[4:25:26] these things that we want
[4:25:26] funded, we need to have more
[4:25:31] money coming from the state.
[4:25:32] We can't just be collecting
[4:25:32] this one center half it, you
[4:25:35] know, like you were saying,
[4:25:36] even collecting half a cent
[4:25:37] more would be a substantial
[4:25:40] increase from what we're seeing
[4:25:41] right now.
[4:25:41] So thanks everyone for your
[4:25:42] input today.
[4:25:46] Very well said.
[4:25:46] >> Thank you.
[4:25:47] Next is John Stump.
[4:25:50] If you can please unmute.
[4:25:55] >> Thank you very much, Counsel
[4:25:56] .
[4:25:56] >> You know in the police in
[4:26:01] the fire, in the lifeguard they
[4:26:05] all are seeking pay from and
[4:26:06] receiving total compensation in
[4:26:11] the area of a half million to a
[4:26:12] quarter of a million per
[4:26:16] employee.
[4:26:17] That's the average.
[4:26:17] You know it.
[4:26:21] I know it.
[4:26:22] How does that happen?
[4:26:26] Because you've got overtime
[4:26:27] being used to boost double pay.
[4:26:31] Now what's the problem?
[4:26:31] You need to find out.
[4:26:36] Use equity and your equity
[4:26:40] department to find out how many
[4:26:41] employees live in District
[4:26:42] eight, District nine and
[4:26:46] District for our employees
[4:26:51] leaving the city for greener
[4:26:51] pastures to live in because
[4:26:56] the schools are no good or the.
[4:26:57] Don't they have pride in their
[4:26:57] community?
[4:27:01] We need to find out how many
[4:27:04] are in Council district four,
[4:27:04] eight and nine.
[4:27:05] You know that old thing about
[4:27:09] blacks not being able to swim
[4:27:10] has been set up set aside by
[4:27:14] Samoan Manuel and Cullen Jones.
[4:27:20] Please give fair compensation
[4:27:20] but don't do it with overtime
[4:27:25] so they can live in Riverside.
[4:27:25] >> Thank you.
[4:27:26] Thank you.
[4:27:26] That concludes your time.
[4:27:29] The five minute timer has also
[4:27:30] concluded Blair Wickman is
[4:27:31] the last speaker in the queue.
[4:27:34] Please proceed.
[4:27:35] >> Thank you.
[4:27:35] Blair Beekman Thank you for
[4:27:38] the words as always from Tony
[4:27:43] To add in our concerns that
[4:27:44] public safety was life saving
[4:27:44] and fire department.
[4:27:48] They've recently moved over to
[4:27:49] their technology and
[4:27:50] surveillance tech moved over to
[4:27:50] Jayhawks.
[4:27:53] Where the data collection goes
[4:27:54] I hope that the federal agency
[4:27:57] there's separate from
[4:27:58] the police.
[4:27:58] I hope that we can be clear and
[4:28:02] have clear conversations with
[4:28:02] Jayhawks and not be afraid of
[4:28:03] those conversations with data
[4:28:07] collection technology.
[4:28:08] With that said, good luck that
[4:28:12] we can look for a new vendor
[4:28:13] besides work by the way.
[4:28:16] I wanted to comment that we are
[4:28:21] out of time to really be
[4:28:26] considering that well that
[4:28:30] because you know this item is
[4:28:31] saying that there's issues with
[4:28:31] the technology and that
[4:28:36] the technology will community
[4:28:36] where people live in the center
[4:28:37] communities.
[4:28:40] Do you have good idea.
[4:28:45] >> >> You seem to have cut off
[4:28:46] That does conclude public
[4:28:46] comment.
[4:28:50] He did drop.
[4:28:50] All right thank you city clerk
[4:28:51] for that.
[4:28:51] So there's one hour one
[4:28:52] additional opportunity for
[4:28:55] counsel to speak up again You
[4:28:55] in there was pretty robust
[4:28:59] conversation but council member
[4:29:00] Eli Rivera Thank you Council
[4:29:01] PRESIDENT It was robust.
[4:29:04] >> I wanted to make sure that I
[4:29:09] didn't add this part and I
[4:29:09] think I appreciate some of my
[4:29:10] colleagues comments.
[4:29:12] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem in
[4:29:17] particular This is just an
[4:29:18] entirely unacceptable way for
[4:29:22] San Diego to live it.
[4:29:23] Obviously the firefighters and
[4:29:27] lifeguards essentially coming
[4:29:28] to council to beg that they be
[4:29:32] compensated enough to not have
[4:29:32] to leave a city that they love
[4:29:36] or a career that they love.
[4:29:37] That's unacceptable.
[4:29:38] That should never be happening
[4:29:41] in a city with the amount of
[4:29:45] resources I mean that on a kind
[4:29:46] of broad level like the amount
[4:29:47] of money that flows through
[4:29:47] this city, the amount of money
[4:29:50] that's taken out of this city
[4:29:51] that should never be happening.
[4:29:55] There's a conversation that
[4:29:56] quite frankly some of us are
[4:30:00] playing into a time that that
[4:30:01] belt can be tightened enough to
[4:30:05] get to where we need to go And
[4:30:06] it's it's just not real.
[4:30:10] It's not real And not only is
[4:30:10] is that not real the idea that
[4:30:11] the general fund is something
[4:30:15] to be terrified of is also not
[4:30:16] real.
[4:30:20] This is who is paid for what
[4:30:21] the general fund.
[4:30:21] These are the services that we
[4:30:25] talked about fire lifeguards we
[4:30:29] didn't hear from from mta but
[4:30:30] everything that folks want and
[4:30:34] need as residents
[4:30:35] overwhelmingly is paid for out
[4:30:39] of the general fund.
[4:30:39] So until we either are
[4:30:44] committed to taxing the wealthy
[4:30:44] and making corporations and
[4:30:45] Tories pay their fair share,
[4:30:48] most of this is just platitudes
[4:30:53] and I these folks deserve more
[4:30:53] than platitudes.
[4:30:58] The last thing I will say in
[4:30:59] terms of the conversation about
[4:30:59] lifeguards being public safety
[4:31:03] employees the city is continue
[4:31:04] to take a position that
[4:31:08] lifeguards are not entitled to
[4:31:12] presumptive coverage in a way
[4:31:13] that matches police officers
[4:31:17] and firefighters And I've said
[4:31:22] it and others have now said it
[4:31:23] both on the dais in public and
[4:31:26] elsewhere that we think that
[4:31:27] that is wrong, this idea that
[4:31:28] they should have to prove
[4:31:31] whether or not illness that
[4:31:32] they caught from the storm
[4:31:33] the storm water that they dove
[4:31:36] into or other ailments that
[4:31:41] they might be dealing with were
[4:31:42] caused on the job is not a good
[4:31:42] way to indicate that we
[4:31:46] actually value their profession
[4:31:47] as a public safety profession.
[4:31:50] So I'm glad that we are
[4:31:51] consistently standing in
[4:31:51] support verbally of public
[4:31:55] safety.
[4:31:56] Where we have to do better is
[4:31:57] the willingness to have
[4:32:00] the conversation to resource
[4:32:01] the city well enough to
[4:32:01] actually make good on
[4:32:05] the requests that they're
[4:32:05] making to us.
[4:32:06] And I know we'll talk more
[4:32:07] about this tomorrow as well.
[4:32:10] Council PRESIDENT But I just it
[4:32:11] bothers me immensely because we
[4:32:11] shouldn't be living this way.
[4:32:16] Thank you.
[4:32:16] All right.
[4:32:16] Thank you.
[4:32:17] The member Eli Rivera will go
[4:32:18] right to council member Von
[4:32:19] Wolpert.
[4:32:20] Thank you.
[4:32:20] I also want to ask some
[4:32:21] questions about recruitment
[4:32:24] because you talked a bit about
[4:32:25] retention today But you know
[4:32:25] cutting the academy I mean
[4:32:30] the cadet program is shooting
[4:32:30] us in the foot because it is
[4:32:31] such a great recruitment tool.
[4:32:34] Same thing with the Women's
[4:32:34] Fire Prep Academy.
[4:32:35] We've gotten many, many
[4:32:35] qualified firefighters out of
[4:32:38] that academy as well.
[4:32:39] But I guess my question is
[4:32:40] citywide, you know, why do we
[4:32:43] leave it to each department to
[4:32:44] have to figure out how to do
[4:32:45] recruitment on their own?
[4:32:45] We have an entire personnel
[4:32:49] department, entire H.R.
[4:32:49] Department.
[4:32:50] Obviously firefighters are
[4:32:50] the best ambassadors to
[4:32:51] the public.
[4:32:51] You should be involved in
[4:32:54] recruiting people.
[4:32:54] That makes total sense.
[4:32:55] But you know, I see David
[4:32:58] delgado here.
[4:32:59] You've done an excellent job
[4:33:00] reforming the personnel
[4:33:00] department and getting people
[4:33:03] through but are there thoughts
[4:33:04] that you have on how we could
[4:33:08] relieve the burden on just
[4:33:08] the fire department, just
[4:33:09] the lifeguards do their own
[4:33:09] recruitment.
[4:33:10] We as a city could help support
[4:33:12] them in their efforts And you
[4:33:13] have done an excellent job,
[4:33:14] sir, in reforming the personnel
[4:33:15] department And I'm very glad
[4:33:17] that you're here.
[4:33:18] >> No, thank you so much for
[4:33:18] the question.
[4:33:19] First of all, I think it is
[4:33:22] really important to have
[4:33:23] the departments as a part of
[4:33:23] the recruitment phase because
[4:33:26] seeing these real life heroes
[4:33:27] go out there and talk to
[4:33:28] people, it really gets them in
[4:33:32] the mood and really want to
[4:33:32] join the city because they're
[4:33:33] going to see the good they get
[4:33:34] to bring in And we are working
[4:33:36] on a lot of things to lower
[4:33:37] the barriers.
[4:33:37] Obviously we've talked about
[4:33:40] that a lot here lately.
[4:33:41] I'll give you a few examples.
[4:33:42] We've worked with the chief's
[4:33:44] office to remove testing
[4:33:49] requirements and bring in house
[4:33:49] training programs so that they
[4:33:50] don't have to go through our
[4:33:50] tests.
[4:33:54] The physical abilities test,
[4:33:55] stuff like that so that they
[4:33:55] can be certified automatically
[4:33:59] to lists allowing for people
[4:34:00] who have passed their test
[4:34:01] before to be certified as well.
[4:34:04] So we are trying to bring down
[4:34:05] the barriers In addition in
[4:34:05] that looking forward we're
[4:34:09] going to be doing more than one
[4:34:10] fire recruit academy each year
[4:34:13] So we're going to be doing two
[4:34:14] recruitments now So we're open
[4:34:14] to any suggestions.
[4:34:18] We work closely with the fire
[4:34:19] department and with the areas
[4:34:19] but we do need them a part of
[4:34:23] the process because they're our
[4:34:24] best selling point.
[4:34:24] Agreed.
[4:34:28] I mean I'm thinking along
[4:34:28] the lines of you had that
[4:34:29] fantastic hiring you fair that
[4:34:32] you guys did would tons of
[4:34:33] people came out Is there a way
[4:34:37] that you could help facilitate
[4:34:38] that and they could Obviously
[4:34:38] we need firefighters to be
[4:34:39] there to be the ambassadors of
[4:34:42] department but they're trying
[4:34:43] to fight fires and rescue
[4:34:43] people.
[4:34:44] You know, they don't need to do
[4:34:45] all the administrative work to
[4:34:47] set these things up.
[4:34:48] You could help with that and
[4:34:48] not you personally.
[4:34:49] I'm just saying your excellent
[4:34:50] department could and then they
[4:34:52] could come know Absolutely.
[4:34:53] And so we've done a couple of
[4:34:57] those hiring halls We are
[4:34:58] moving forward with what we
[4:34:58] call the Chief Logan Fire
[4:35:02] recruit Hiring Hall So what we
[4:35:03] do with that is when they do
[4:35:07] have new hires we go to A.C. Do
[4:35:08] the fingerprinting, the medical
[4:35:11] schedule, everything for them.
[4:35:12] So they're at a fire facility.
[4:35:13] They don't have to come
[4:35:13] downtown.
[4:35:14] They don't have to pay for
[4:35:16] parking.
[4:35:17] So we are definitely doing
[4:35:17] that.
[4:35:18] And one of the issues right now
[4:35:21] with hiring halls is if we
[4:35:22] aren't hiring people, we don't
[4:35:22] want to put out the false
[4:35:26] perception of hey, come on down
[4:35:26] here.
[4:35:27] We have a whole lot of jobs
[4:35:28] available when when we MAY or
[4:35:30] MAY not So but absolutely we're
[4:35:31] happy to do any of those hiring
[4:35:35] fairs and whatever the chief or
[4:35:35] or either one of the chiefs
[4:35:36] need, we're always happy to
[4:35:36] help.
[4:35:39] Okay.
[4:35:40] >> Thank you very much.
[4:35:41] I appreciate it.
[4:35:41] Thank you.
[4:35:44] Okay.
[4:35:45] All right.
[4:35:46] Figured COUNCILMAN Ron Wolpert
[4:35:46] not seeing anybody else on
[4:35:49] the lights.
[4:35:50] I'll thank you all for both
[4:35:51] the presentation and all of you
[4:35:54] for turning out both areas
[4:35:55] taking the time to take
[4:35:59] advantage of this moment while
[4:35:59] negotiations are going
[4:36:00] underway.
[4:36:01] I think you made your points
[4:36:04] very effectively.
[4:36:04] I think you heard some support
[4:36:08] across the entire Dyess here to
[4:36:09] be candid how that translates
[4:36:13] into negotiating contracts
[4:36:14] remains to be seen.
[4:36:15] But I think you guys did a
[4:36:15] great job.
[4:36:16] I think it was worth your time
[4:36:18] to come down here and make your
[4:36:18] case.
[4:36:19] >> So well done.
[4:36:27] All right.
[4:36:28] All right.
[4:36:32] With that.
[4:36:36] Clerk Please introduce item 641
[4:36:36] Item 641 is the repeal Balboa
[4:36:37] Park paid parking user fee If
[4:36:41] you're here for this item
[4:36:41] please be sure to submit your
[4:36:42] speakers up to the front of
[4:36:45] the room in the clear box and
[4:36:46] if you are participating
[4:36:47] remotely now's the time to
[4:36:47] raise your hand by pressing
[4:36:49] Star nine or the raise your
[4:36:49] hand icon.
[4:36:55] >> Thank you Council President
[4:36:55] All right I'm going to get men
[4:37:03] are two for these good folks to
[4:37:09] actually I can tell you as well
[4:37:10] discipline that's quite as
[4:37:11] crowd you ever seen except
[4:37:12] the two chambers So we're going
[4:37:16] to turn this over to council
[4:37:16] member Whitburn to introduce
[4:37:17] the item and you can introduce
[4:37:21] your staff Sir Thank you very
[4:37:21] much.
[4:37:21] Council PRESIDENT I bring
[4:37:25] forward today's action to
[4:37:26] repeal paid parking at Balboa
[4:37:26] Park.
[4:37:27] This action formally approves
[4:37:31] part of the negotiated
[4:37:31] settlement that the City
[4:37:32] Council supported in closed
[4:37:35] session last month.
[4:37:35] The settlement ends an effort
[4:37:36] to repeal the city's trash fees
[4:37:39] through a ballot measure.
[4:37:40] If that effort had been
[4:37:41] successful it would have cost
[4:37:44] the city nearly $150 billion in
[4:37:44] revenue for two consecutive
[4:37:45] years.
[4:37:50] So negotiate the settlement.
[4:37:51] I worked with Michael Zucker,
[4:37:51] the general manager of
[4:37:52] the Mississippi Employers
[4:37:54] Association and we built upon
[4:37:55] an earlier work by the council
[4:37:55] PRESIDENT.
[4:37:59] The settlement has to be two
[4:38:00] components reduction in
[4:38:00] the city's trash fees and
[4:38:03] the repeal of paid parking at
[4:38:04] Balboa Park.
[4:38:04] The first item we'll hear this
[4:38:05] afternoon repeals paid parking
[4:38:08] could double apart.
[4:38:09] The next item will reduce
[4:38:09] the city's trash fees.
[4:38:14] Today I have two new updates
[4:38:15] the repeal of paid parking good
[4:38:18] Balboa Park.
[4:38:19] First it will apply not only to
[4:38:20] the parking lots but also to
[4:38:23] street parking.
[4:38:24] The city will restore free
[4:38:25] parking both in the lots and on
[4:38:28] the streets in Balboa Park And
[4:38:28] second for people who bought
[4:38:32] annual parking passes the city
[4:38:33] will refund any portion of
[4:38:33] the pass that extends beyond
[4:38:34] the end of this year.
[4:38:38] That's because parking will be
[4:38:38] free for everybody by that.
[4:38:39] And with that I will turn it
[4:38:41] over to my chief of staff Jacob
[4:38:43] o'Neill to present the item.
[4:38:49] Good afternoon.
[4:38:49] >> This proposal comes as part
[4:38:53] of a larger negotiated
[4:38:54] compromise regarding the solid
[4:38:55] waste management fee that also
[4:38:58] incorporated this proposed
[4:38:59] repeal of the Balboa Park paid
[4:38:59] parking user fee.
[4:39:03] Councilmember Whitman presented
[4:39:04] the negotiated compromise at
[4:39:05] City Council closed session on
[4:39:07] MAY 28th, 2026 where it was
[4:39:08] approved for consideration here
[4:39:12] in open session.
[4:39:13] >> This item seeks approval to
[4:39:13] rebuild the Balboa Park paid
[4:39:17] parking program with been
[4:39:18] within Balboa Park making
[4:39:19] parking free for everyone
[4:39:26] effective JANUARY 1st, 2027.
[4:39:27] >> There are three types of
[4:39:31] paid parking within Balboa Park
[4:39:32] where meters or a kiosk will be
[4:39:32] removed.
[4:39:36] The first is the surface lots
[4:39:36] parking meter kiosk will be
[4:39:40] removed and all surface lots in
[4:39:44] the park including a number of
[4:39:45] surface lots.
[4:39:45] Oregon Pavilion Casa de Balboa
[4:39:49] Upper inspiration Point and
[4:39:50] lower inspiration point along
[4:39:50] with a few others.
[4:39:54] The next areas that will
[4:39:55] the kiosk will be removed are
[4:39:59] on park Street locations.
[4:40:00] Parking meters kiosks will be
[4:40:03] removed on all park Street
[4:40:04] locations including PRESIDENT's
[4:40:05] Way Village place Balboa Drive
[4:40:09] El Prado Kincaid Drive and
[4:40:09] Juniper Road.
[4:40:13] And then the third portion is
[4:40:14] Park Boulevard.
[4:40:18] There is metered parking there
[4:40:18] like kiosk.
[4:40:19] There's 46 parking meters that
[4:40:20] were installed in Park
[4:40:23] Boulevard is subject to
[4:40:24] the mayoral authority under
[4:40:27] council policy 20 dash 200 dash
[4:40:28] zero four And the mayor has
[4:40:29] agreed to remove all 46 parking
[4:40:35] meters on Park Boulevard.
[4:40:35] >> The item also asks that
[4:40:36] the Treasurer's office stop
[4:40:40] selling passes in order to not
[4:40:44] sell any passes that will go
[4:40:44] beyond DECEMBER 31st 2026.
[4:40:48] Currently there are three types
[4:40:49] of passes yearly, quarterly and
[4:40:53] monthly and this action asked
[4:40:54] that yearly passes stop being
[4:40:58] sold Basically after today so
[4:40:58] that there will be no refunds
[4:41:02] due after the first of the year
[4:41:02] .
[4:41:03] It also asked that
[4:41:03] the quarterly passes stopped
[4:41:08] being sold after SEPTEMBER 30th
[4:41:12] of 2026 so that the quarterly
[4:41:13] passes will not go beyond
[4:41:13] the first of the year and that
[4:41:17] monthly passes stop being sold
[4:41:17] on NOVEMBER 30th 2026 so that
[4:41:19] they will also be done by
[4:41:24] the end of the year.
[4:41:25] The annual passes that have
[4:41:29] previously been sold will be
[4:41:30] refunded and a prorated portion
[4:41:34] for all purchased annual passes
[4:41:34] that remain unused as of
[4:41:35] JANUARY 1st, 2027.
[4:41:38] So if you bought it in FEBRUARY
[4:41:39] of this year and went on
[4:41:40] FEBRUARY of next year you'll be
[4:41:40] refunded for the person
[4:41:46] the portion beyond JANUARY 1st
[4:41:46] .
[4:41:51] >> Parking revenues for fy 2027
[4:41:51] from park user fees were
[4:41:54] projected at 4.4 million and
[4:41:55] the mayor's proposed budget
[4:41:59] working with the eBay and City
[4:41:59] staff.
[4:42:00] Revenues are now projected to
[4:42:03] be higher for f y 2027 monthly
[4:42:03] actual revenues from MARCH to
[4:42:07] MAY have been coming in much
[4:42:08] higher And as you can see from
[4:42:12] the chart on the that the eBay
[4:42:13] has helped create for us we are
[4:42:20] now projecting 3.9 million
[4:42:24] through DECEMBER 31st, 2026 and
[4:42:25] at 3.9 million will still be a
[4:42:28] little bit short of the 4.4
[4:42:29] million that was budgeted.
[4:42:29] But you can also see
[4:42:33] the expenditures the enhanced
[4:42:34] services for the tram will no
[4:42:34] longer be needed for the rest
[4:42:37] of the year for the final six
[4:42:38] months of the fiscal year.
[4:42:42] So that would actually save
[4:42:43] $480,000 which combined with
[4:42:47] the revenues will be basically
[4:42:48] no impact for the 2027 fiscal
[4:42:49] year and that you guys will be
[4:42:54] voting on tomorrow.
[4:42:55] >> So this proposed action
[4:42:59] asked to repeal the previously
[4:43:00] passed resolutions to approve
[4:43:05] the parks user fee revisions to
[4:43:05] authorize the City Treasurer to
[4:43:09] discontinue issuing passes to
[4:43:10] authorize the Treasurer to
[4:43:14] refund the prorated passes
[4:43:15] going beyond the first of
[4:43:15] the year and also directed
[4:43:19] the Department of Finance to
[4:43:20] amend the rate book to remove
[4:43:23] any mention of pro program in
[4:43:24] Balboa Park parking fees.
[4:43:29] So with that.
[4:43:30] Any questions on the fiscal
[4:43:30] impacts?
[4:43:31] The idea I think is here to
[4:43:34] answer and any questions on
[4:43:34] the settlement.
[4:43:35] Councilmember Whitman is here
[4:43:35] to answer.
[4:43:38] We in fact will go to
[4:43:39] the office of the aba.
[4:43:39] Great.
[4:43:40] Thank you.
[4:43:40] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:43:41] Thank you, Jacob for
[4:43:43] the presentation.
[4:43:44] I just wanted to note as you
[4:43:48] heard there will be limited
[4:43:49] impacts on the f y 27 budget
[4:43:49] which you're hearing tomorrow
[4:43:53] associated with this action
[4:43:53] provided the paid parking does
[4:43:54] remain in effect through
[4:43:57] the end of this calendar year
[4:43:58] As you heard, that's because
[4:43:58] paid parking revenue over
[4:44:02] the last several months has
[4:44:02] significantly exceeded
[4:44:03] the projections that were
[4:44:04] included in the project or in
[4:44:06] the proposed budget.
[4:44:07] That means that the net impact
[4:44:07] of removing half a year is
[4:44:08] largely covered by bringing in
[4:44:11] more revenue than expected
[4:44:12] during the first six months of
[4:44:12] the fiscal year.
[4:44:13] I do want to highlight that
[4:44:17] there MAY be impacts on revenue
[4:44:17] from the zero that is
[4:44:18] associated with a recent 44
[4:44:22] year lease extension while
[4:44:22] those years minimum payment
[4:44:23] called for in the lease will go
[4:44:24] away with the termination of
[4:44:24] paid parking.
[4:44:27] The 5050 revenue split will
[4:44:27] remain.
[4:44:31] We are working to evaluate any
[4:44:32] potential impacts for our fy 27
[4:44:32] right now.
[4:44:35] That said, while the overall
[4:44:36] impact to the upcoming fiscal
[4:44:37] year are minor, it's also worth
[4:44:40] acknowledging that this means
[4:44:41] that there will be less revenue
[4:44:42] around 7 to $10 million once we
[4:44:45] hit fy 28 and next year's
[4:44:46] budget cycle will have to take
[4:44:47] that into account.
[4:44:47] Thank you.
[4:44:49] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:44:50] >> All right.
[4:44:50] Thank you Charles for that
[4:44:54] clarification with that clerk,
[4:44:55] please proceed with public
[4:44:55] comment.
[4:44:56] >> Thank you, Council
[4:44:56] PRESIDENT.
[4:44:59] If we can have allegedly Andre
[4:44:59] and Joyce Senator, please come
[4:45:00] up to the front row Allegedly.
[4:45:01] Audra, you can come up to
[4:45:03] the microphone.
[4:45:04] >> You'll have a minute and a
[4:45:08] half.
[4:45:09] >> I mean it's ridiculous that
[4:45:13] we are here dealing with this
[4:45:13] because obviously what you did
[4:45:20] was illegal and
[4:45:21] unconstitutional And the way
[4:45:25] that you guys bring about these
[4:45:26] fees is very negligent when you
[4:45:31] know that this kind of stuff
[4:45:31] can take place and all of a
[4:45:32] sudden we have to come forward
[4:45:35] and repeal what you've already
[4:45:36] put forward like those 46m and
[4:45:37] all of the kiosks like how much
[4:45:40] money are we losing Because you
[4:45:41] decided to go down this path
[4:45:42] and we had to go into
[4:45:46] litigation that's costing us
[4:45:47] not only $1 million for that
[4:45:50] but how much more money did you
[4:45:51] lose in the process of that?
[4:45:51] And then you're talking about
[4:45:55] revenue that's been lost like I
[4:45:55] mean, when are we going to
[4:45:56] start doing things that are
[4:45:59] that are for the benefit of
[4:46:00] the people Because the people
[4:46:01] will come in here and tell you
[4:46:04] guys no but it's like the way
[4:46:05] that things are set up it's
[4:46:06] like well if you don't have
[4:46:09] like 150,000 people come in
[4:46:09] here, we're going to go ahead
[4:46:13] and pass it anyway Like it's
[4:46:13] literally set up for failure
[4:46:14] for the people And then we have
[4:46:18] to come back and do this kind
[4:46:23] of wasting money that you guys
[4:46:24] claim that you I mean look,
[4:46:24] think about how much money
[4:46:27] could have gone to all of these
[4:46:27] first responders, millions of
[4:46:28] dollars that you guys have
[4:46:33] wasted And it happens time and
[4:46:33] again and it's just ridiculous
[4:46:38] to have to like I mean on your
[4:46:46] word like choice on your show.
[4:46:50] City Clerk Are we doing just
[4:46:51] the parking fees now?
[4:46:51] Yes, right now is just
[4:46:52] the parking.
[4:46:52] Okay.
[4:46:55] Thank you.
[4:46:56] Okay.
[4:46:56] I don't need my papers then.
[4:46:57] All right.
[4:47:00] So when I came out of the gate
[4:47:01] on this one I was so pro
[4:47:06] revenue and I really, really
[4:47:10] wanted these fees to be
[4:47:10] enforced and I wanted that
[4:47:14] money to be coming in and
[4:47:15] that's the truth.
[4:47:19] And then I listened to
[4:47:20] everybody almost everybody I
[4:47:24] think every single person And
[4:47:29] they certainly convinced me to
[4:47:33] change my mind Now after I
[4:47:34] change my mind And I said okay,
[4:47:38] no parking fees at Balboa Park
[4:47:39] and so forth, this voice came
[4:47:43] up in the back of my head and
[4:47:48] said Ah joy, are you sure you
[4:47:49] want to change your mind?
[4:47:53] And and the I Charles of
[4:47:53] the eBay just you know,
[4:47:57] validated that that we can say
[4:47:58] okay less impact on the money
[4:48:02] on the revenue for f y 27 sort
[4:48:06] of but what about later and
[4:48:07] what about how we're doing
[4:48:12] these these things How can we
[4:48:12] do better?
[4:48:16] I don't know How can we care
[4:48:17] and how can we live within our
[4:48:17] means?
[4:48:21] I don't know.
[4:48:22] Councilmember Ellen Rivera
[4:48:26] talks about the corporate world
[4:48:26] and money from them.
[4:48:27] I don't know.
[4:48:28] Thank you for that cute little
[4:48:30] comment.
[4:48:31] Five minutes on the time where
[4:48:32] we're going to those
[4:48:32] participating remotely starting
[4:48:36] with Leonard Fiorina.
[4:48:37] You'll have a minute and a half
[4:48:40] if you can please unmute.
[4:48:41] >> Yeah, I'll make a comment
[4:48:44] regarding your measure be on
[4:48:50] helping the deficit The company
[4:48:51] that I saw in the recycling is
[4:48:51] profiting from are you on
[4:48:55] the trash sir Because that is
[4:48:55] the next item.
[4:48:56] Oh it's a next item yes.
[4:48:59] We'll come back to you then.
[4:49:00] Hector if you can please unmute
[4:49:01] This is on Balboa Park paid
[4:49:06] parking fees.
[4:49:07] I got a new way to raise money
[4:49:11] for the parking fees We we talk
[4:49:12] to the brothers and get them to
[4:49:16] chain up all those parking
[4:49:17] meters.
[4:49:17] We'll chain them up and drag
[4:49:20] them over the museum of us and
[4:49:21] we'll create a new thing in
[4:49:26] the lobby that will put all
[4:49:27] the parking meters up there.
[4:49:30] It'll be a new living museum of
[4:49:30] the Museum of Us How human
[4:49:35] beings can mess up Balboa Park.
[4:49:35] It'll be it'll it'll make
[4:49:40] headlines Do this and we'll
[4:49:41] make But we'll charge extra to
[4:49:45] go see the museum pieces of
[4:49:45] the parking meters in there.
[4:49:49] Plus it'll free up free parking
[4:49:50] for the whole park immediately
[4:49:51] And then we got to reimburse
[4:49:54] the guys that lost their
[4:49:55] employees like the railroad
[4:49:55] Museum.
[4:49:59] Four guys got laid off because
[4:49:59] there's no visitors.
[4:50:00] So we got to reimburse those
[4:50:04] guys to hire their employees
[4:50:05] back and pay them back there
[4:50:06] because they had it going on.
[4:50:10] These guys had their business
[4:50:10] going on.
[4:50:11] Other people they're paying
[4:50:13] their guys the money.
[4:50:14] Visitors were come in and you
[4:50:15] guys are getting tax revenue.
[4:50:18] That's another thing.
[4:50:19] How about all these other
[4:50:20] places man The Aerospace Museum
[4:50:24] lost customers These not job
[4:50:25] then those guys are capable
[4:50:29] dudes you know it's just like
[4:50:29] you know it's just another You
[4:50:30] got to take the loss take
[4:50:33] the I'll put it all up on your
[4:50:34] forehead now with your hand
[4:50:42] with an al loser loser Take
[4:50:42] the your time has concluded
[4:50:43] before I proceed with anyone
[4:50:47] else on the virtual there was a
[4:50:47] clerical error My apologies on
[4:50:48] mis filing of the slip So we do
[4:50:52] have a number of speakers still
[4:50:52] here in council chambers.
[4:50:53] David Swarns if you can please
[4:50:56] come forward to the microphone
[4:50:56] after that.
[4:50:57] Ron Johnson Peter Kaminsky
[4:51:01] Michael Warburton and Pamela if
[4:51:05] you can all please come forward
[4:51:05] to the first row.
[4:51:06] >> David please proceed.
[4:51:07] You'll have a minute.
[4:51:07] Thank you.
[4:51:09] That was disappointing.
[4:51:10] The council had been informed
[4:51:11] in advance regarding
[4:51:11] the difficulty and expense of
[4:51:14] implementing sustaining and
[4:51:15] finally of ending such a
[4:51:15] program.
[4:51:18] We are now thankfully in that
[4:51:19] third stage Not soon enough.
[4:51:20] I urge you to move with all due
[4:51:23] dispatch to roll back paid
[4:51:24] parking above all park and on
[4:51:25] the earliest possible schedule
[4:51:29] next week would not be too
[4:51:29] soon.
[4:51:30] It that's completely consistent
[4:51:33] with the settlement as stated
[4:51:33] before the end of the year.
[4:51:34] While there have been different
[4:51:38] adjustments to the program
[4:51:39] which arguably have improved
[4:51:39] it, what they've actually done
[4:51:42] is made it even more confusing.
[4:51:43] Myself and many others are
[4:51:46] staying away from the park
[4:51:47] because it's just and
[4:51:48] reasonable intelligent person
[4:51:53] and it's just beyond me and
[4:51:53] changes every moment I have to,
[4:51:57] you know, check my device to
[4:51:58] make sure what the rules are
[4:51:59] this month or this week or this
[4:52:02] day So please remove it and
[4:52:03] remove it now as soon as
[4:52:05] possible Next week again would
[4:52:09] be that to so Ron Johnson, if
[4:52:13] you can please come forward.
[4:52:14] Hi, how are you?
[4:52:15] My name is Ron Johnson and I'm
[4:52:19] a native San Diego and I've
[4:52:23] lived in Claremont for 50
[4:52:23] years.
[4:52:28] I've also retired twice from
[4:52:28] the aircraft industry at
[4:52:29] General Dynamics Convair I was
[4:52:32] in management.
[4:52:33] I worked my way up.
[4:52:34] I was in a mockup development
[4:52:37] department.
[4:52:38] We developed a lot of items
[4:52:41] when we closed down in 95 half
[4:52:42] of my mockup shop was donated
[4:52:46] to the Aerospace Museum down in
[4:52:46] the basement.
[4:52:47] i'm very knowledgeable of
[4:52:51] aircraft and missile industry
[4:52:51] and over the course of time
[4:52:56] have asked the Aerospace Museum
[4:52:57] if I couldn't bring in a group
[4:53:00] of people and I do docent work
[4:53:01] and volunteer doesn't work to
[4:53:01] explain what all there is
[4:53:05] within the museum because of
[4:53:06] the extensive knowledge that
[4:53:06] I've had over the years that I
[4:53:10] was with Convair Three weeks
[4:53:11] after we shut down I joined a
[4:53:15] postal service and put 22 years
[4:53:16] with the Postal Service.
[4:53:16] I also do docent tours,
[4:53:20] volunteer docent tours also for
[4:53:21] the Aerospace Museum for those
[4:53:22] people who are interested in
[4:53:25] what's going on there.
[4:53:26] Well right now I am a baby
[4:53:30] boomer on fixed income and I've
[4:53:31] talked to a lot of people that
[4:53:34] I give these tours to and
[4:53:35] everything And because of
[4:53:39] the implementation of
[4:53:39] the parking situation at
[4:53:40] Belmont Park, a lot of them
[4:53:44] have become very discouraged
[4:53:45] and have no desire to go back.
[4:53:45] >> Thank you for that
[4:53:46] concluding comment.
[4:53:50] Peter Kaminski.
[4:53:50] Peter you have time ceded to
[4:53:54] you by Theresa won't thank you.
[4:53:55] >> You'll have two minutes.
[4:53:55] Please proceed.
[4:53:56] I mean sorry.
[4:53:57] Three minutes Please proceed.
[4:53:57] Thank you.
[4:53:59] Council PRESIDENT Council
[4:54:00] members Peter Kaminski Bob All
[4:54:00] Park Cultural Partnership
[4:54:03] representing our museums,
[4:54:04] performing arts organizations,
[4:54:05] gardens and cultural
[4:54:08] organizations that call Balboa
[4:54:09] Park home.
[4:54:13] My message today is super
[4:54:13] simple.
[4:54:14] Thank you.
[4:54:18] Thank you for listening and
[4:54:19] thank you for leading.
[4:54:20] Thank you for bringing us to
[4:54:23] this moment.
[4:54:24] The elimination of paid parking
[4:54:28] in Balboa Park Your creativity
[4:54:29] and leadership will begin to
[4:54:33] pull Balboa Double Park back
[4:54:33] from the brink.
[4:54:37] We trust that this vote will
[4:54:38] end.
[4:54:38] Year over year decline in
[4:54:39] visitation to Balbo Park Arts
[4:54:43] and Culture Organization is
[4:54:43] caused by paid parking.
[4:54:47] Specifically we want to express
[4:54:48] our immense gratitude to
[4:54:48] the City Council particularly
[4:54:52] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and
[4:54:53] Councilmember Whitman who stuck
[4:54:57] their necks out for the good of
[4:54:58] this city and the good of
[4:55:02] Balboa Park.
[4:55:03] Are grateful also to make
[4:55:03] glorious city attorney Fermat
[4:55:06] Mike Sackett and former Mayor
[4:55:07] Kevin Faulconer for finding
[4:55:08] that path forward.
[4:55:11] Most importantly we want to
[4:55:16] thank the tens possibly
[4:55:17] hundreds of thousands of San
[4:55:21] Diego kids who spoke up on
[4:55:26] behalf of their Balboa Park.
[4:55:26] They are the people who made
[4:55:27] the difference here.
[4:55:31] Those advocates While we
[4:55:31] celebrate the settlement
[4:55:32] agreement and the commitment to
[4:55:36] win the parking no later than
[4:55:36] JANUARY 1st, we also recognize
[4:55:40] that the next several months
[4:55:41] will not be without challenges.
[4:55:45] Paid parking MAY remain in
[4:55:45] effect through the second half
[4:55:46] of this year and that will lead
[4:55:47] to some real impacts in our
[4:55:50] organization and visitors We
[4:55:51] know some organizations will
[4:55:55] continue to face attendance,
[4:55:56] operational and financial
[4:55:56] challenges during this
[4:55:59] transition period.
[4:56:04] But we also now know this
[4:56:04] The city is listening.
[4:56:09] We have a partner in this city
[4:56:09] council.
[4:56:10] We're committed to working
[4:56:13] through these challenges
[4:56:14] together.
[4:56:14] As the paid parking era comes
[4:56:18] to a very happy close,
[4:56:19] the settlement agreement
[4:56:23] provides certainty and
[4:56:24] certainly allows our
[4:56:24] institutions, our organizations
[4:56:28] to plan to adapt and to focus
[4:56:29] on serving the millions of
[4:56:33] people from our region And for
[4:56:34] the tourists that bring money
[4:56:37] into this economy.
[4:56:38] Thank you for your vote in
[4:56:42] support and for supporting
[4:56:43] the San Diego's community core
[4:56:46] and regional destination.
[4:56:47] >> Again, thank you very, very
[4:56:50] much.
[4:56:55] >> Thank you, Michael.
[4:56:55] Hello.
[4:56:59] Representing the San Diego
[4:57:00] Model Railroad Museum I lost
[4:57:01] count of how many times I stood
[4:57:04] here and talked about
[4:57:05] the impacts on the attendance
[4:57:05] and sharing data and the staff
[4:57:10] members We had the cut and
[4:57:11] the hours of operation we had
[4:57:11] to cut.
[4:57:12] And all of those things.
[4:57:14] But this is not one of those
[4:57:15] times you know I'm here
[4:57:15] actually because Peter stole my
[4:57:17] thunder.
[4:57:23] Truly Thank you.
[4:57:23] I really can't express our team
[4:57:24] meeting after the announcement
[4:57:28] was made and just the sheer
[4:57:28] amount of hope that people had
[4:57:33] paid parking was not going to
[4:57:34] be sustainable for us just.
[4:57:34] Period.
[4:57:38] And to use a bad train pun we
[4:57:38] do see the light at the end of
[4:57:39] the tunnel, right?
[4:57:42] We know that in JANUARY this is
[4:57:42] all going to change uphill for
[4:57:46] us or on the upside for us and
[4:57:47] we are really so grateful I
[4:57:51] can't express it.
[4:57:52] And also to you thank you to
[4:57:53] everybody who engaged in this
[4:57:56] process And it was.
[4:57:56] Uncomfortable and awkward
[4:57:57] sometimes I mean.
[4:58:00] Emily, thank you.
[4:58:01] You know, she came to
[4:58:02] the Bellevue Park Committee
[4:58:05] meetings and that could not
[4:58:07] have been easy And I appreciate
[4:58:07] you being part of that process.
[4:58:10] So it took us all to get here.
[4:58:10] But here we are.
[4:58:11] So thank you for that vote.
[4:58:15] Thanks.
[4:58:16] >> Think in our finals week or
[4:58:20] as Pamela Riegel I think is
[4:58:21] family you have several people
[4:58:21] seeding your time If they can
[4:58:24] please raise their hand.
[4:58:25] Laurie Freitas, Britta
[4:58:29] Lindstrom and Loveless and
[4:58:31] Cassidy Bartolo you'll have 7.5
[4:58:36] minutes.
[4:58:36] >> Good afternoon.
[4:58:37] Thank you.
[4:58:37] Council members.
[4:58:41] My name is Pamela Beagle.
[4:58:41] >> It really is.
[4:58:42] The last time I was here was
[4:58:46] over a year ago with the edu
[4:58:49] bonus when you we all knew
[4:58:49] about that one.
[4:58:50] Thank you very much for
[4:58:50] amending it.
[4:58:54] I really appreciate that.
[4:58:55] But we are here with.
[4:58:58] The Balboa Park parking fees
[4:58:59] And I'll tell you one thing I
[4:59:00] would not want to be any of
[4:59:00] you.
[4:59:04] i don't want your job.
[4:59:04] It is so hard The budget.
[4:59:09] I was here on Friday.
[4:59:09] I listen to everybody.
[4:59:14] I listen to MR. Campo who said
[4:59:14] are we going to do this every
[4:59:15] year?
[4:59:18] What are we 15 million?
[4:59:19] And he ask you, MR. Modica And
[4:59:23] and you said is it going to be
[4:59:23] 15 million more next year?
[4:59:24] And you said Oh no, it's going
[4:59:26] to be 30 years something or
[4:59:26] more than that.
[4:59:27] And so it keeps getting
[4:59:31] exponentially larger.
[4:59:32] You have a terribly hard job to
[4:59:32] do.
[4:59:36] I am not here to yell at you.
[4:59:37] >> I wasn't here to yell at you
[4:59:37] last year either.
[4:59:41] Maybe I can have a few
[4:59:42] suggestions.
[4:59:42] I'm not brilliant but I am one
[4:59:45] of those senior citizens so I
[4:59:49] have been around a little bit.
[4:59:55] I understand MR. LaCava you
[4:59:55] said on Friday you know it it
[4:59:59] isn't a matter of middle
[5:00:00] management cutting.
[5:00:05] >> Cell phone allowance is car
[5:00:05] allowances, little things like
[5:00:06] that here and there.
[5:00:09] It's not a matter of that.
[5:00:10] >> None of you who are here
[5:00:10] today created this problem.
[5:00:14] You didn't It's been going on
[5:00:15] for quite a while, hasn't it Is
[5:00:19] not the current mayor's fault
[5:00:19] either.
[5:00:20] It's been going on for quite a
[5:00:20] while.
[5:00:23] I would know because I'm 105.
[5:00:24] >> But the point is is it has
[5:00:28] been going on for quite a
[5:00:29] while.
[5:00:30] >> I don't think I have to tell
[5:00:30] anybody that we live in
[5:00:34] America's most expensive city
[5:00:34] probably.
[5:00:38] But that makes it all the more
[5:00:39] challenging Now with your get
[5:00:43] it done am I paid attention?
[5:00:44] I do put things in there on
[5:00:48] the Get It Done app and this is
[5:00:48] from your information I didn't
[5:00:49] come up with this on my own I'm
[5:00:53] not that bright but traffic
[5:00:58] signs take 290 days plus to get
[5:00:58] fixed Streetlights 500 I'll be
[5:01:03] dead by then Vegetation
[5:01:04] encroachment 679 plus days curb
[5:01:04] repair.
[5:01:07] >> Might as well forget it 1196
[5:01:08] plus days.
[5:01:12] So what are you going to do
[5:01:13] now?
[5:01:13] You can just kick the can down
[5:01:17] the road Probably declare
[5:01:22] bankruptcy Maybe that was a
[5:01:23] suggestion back in the ninety's
[5:01:23] and the deficit has not gotten
[5:01:27] smaller or it's gotten larger
[5:01:28] if you know your California
[5:01:32] history which I know some of
[5:01:32] you do Vallejo Stockton Orange
[5:01:36] County they've all declared
[5:01:37] bankruptcy.
[5:01:38] Or do you want to consider
[5:01:38] something a little bit
[5:01:41] different?
[5:01:42] >> There is a company with
[5:01:42] the innocuous name of
[5:01:46] management partners which means
[5:01:47] absolutely nothing to anybody
[5:01:51] which merged with the larger
[5:01:51] firm of Baker Tilly.
[5:01:52] I know again probably means
[5:01:56] nothing to anybody and it's a
[5:01:57] consulting firm for
[5:02:01] municipalities like ours.
[5:02:01] They've worked with many
[5:02:02] California cities on budget
[5:02:05] spending, investing, funding
[5:02:10] reserves etc..
[5:02:11] You, the current city council
[5:02:15] and mayor did not create this
[5:02:15] long simmering problem but you
[5:02:20] do have a chance to be a hero
[5:02:21] here and move it this way
[5:02:21] rather than this way because it
[5:02:25] keeps going that way and you
[5:02:26] notice how you go up, up, up
[5:02:27] and then you come back down
[5:02:30] again.
[5:02:31] MISS Campbell has already
[5:02:32] pointed that out.
[5:02:35] She tried.
[5:02:35] We got it up.
[5:02:36] We got it.
[5:02:37] Well, no, no, Now it's going
[5:02:37] back down again.
[5:02:40] I want you to know I'm not an
[5:02:41] employee or a shill for for
[5:02:44] Baker Tilly or management
[5:02:45] partners.
[5:02:45] But they do.
[5:02:46] They are a firm that
[5:02:50] specializes in looking at what
[5:02:51] the problems are defining them.
[5:02:51] I'm not saying that we don't
[5:02:55] need you, MR. Modica.
[5:02:55] >> We need you badly.
[5:02:59] And I actually read your report
[5:03:04] and a lot of the pages in it
[5:03:05] and it's I don't know how you
[5:03:09] sleep at night Scary.
[5:03:10] And I saw your projections.
[5:03:13] I also saw the projections on
[5:03:14] the Balboa Park parking fees
[5:03:15] which kind of confused me
[5:03:18] because they originally said
[5:03:22] last year that they projected
[5:03:23] 12.5 million and then it was
[5:03:26] revised in NOVEMBER down to 2.9
[5:03:27] million And now apparently it's
[5:03:31] back up again at 7 million
[5:03:31] something.
[5:03:31] Yes.
[5:03:32] So that kind of confuses me
[5:03:35] when you go up and down like
[5:03:36] that.
[5:03:40] My feeling is is the museums,
[5:03:43] the restaurants, the vendors
[5:03:49] and the employees,
[5:03:49] the volunteers have all been
[5:03:50] hurt badly by this.
[5:03:53] I don't think you did it on
[5:03:54] purpose.
[5:03:54] I think you did it because you
[5:03:58] felt you had to.
[5:03:59] Where are we going to get
[5:03:59] money?
[5:04:00] As MR. Campbell said, Why can't
[5:04:03] you pay a sales tax?
[5:04:04] Well, you know how the public
[5:04:05] is If it sounds like a tax, if
[5:04:08] it sounds like a fee, we don't
[5:04:08] want it right.
[5:04:09] Everybody says no all the time
[5:04:13] to everything But I'm just just
[5:04:13] want to throw it out there.
[5:04:14] >> I'm not going to take all my
[5:04:17] time here but I just want to
[5:04:18] throw it out there.
[5:04:22] >> Maybe maybe another company
[5:04:23] that specializes in figuring
[5:04:23] out how to get us out of this
[5:04:27] might be something to consider
[5:04:27] just maybe And then maybe I
[5:04:32] won't come back next year and
[5:04:36] say I told you sell but thank
[5:04:37] you again for allowing this
[5:04:37] public discourse.
[5:04:41] I know many times it's boring,
[5:04:41] painful and who wants to listen
[5:04:49] to an old lady But thank you.
[5:04:50] >> Thank you for those
[5:04:50] comments.
[5:04:51] I'm sorry At the five minute
[5:04:51] timer we'll go back to
[5:04:52] the virtual public commenters
[5:04:53] We have six people in
[5:04:54] the queue.
[5:04:57] Tony if you can please unmute.
[5:04:58] >> Hey, how's it going?
[5:04:59] Can you hear me?
[5:05:02] Yes, please proceed.
[5:05:03] >> You'll have a minute and a
[5:05:03] half.
[5:05:04] Thank you.
[5:05:07] I wanted to start by thanking
[5:05:08] Council member Whitburn Thank
[5:05:08] you for your efforts in
[5:05:09] removing the parking meters at
[5:05:11] Balboa Park.
[5:05:12] I didn't get to finish what I
[5:05:13] was saying earlier to
[5:05:13] Councilmember Campbell before
[5:05:16] my time ran out so I just
[5:05:17] wanted to say I really
[5:05:17] important I really appreciate
[5:05:21] the importance It's being
[5:05:21] placed upon the discussion of
[5:05:22] how much how far a setting can
[5:05:25] go Looking forward to working
[5:05:26] with you, your office and
[5:05:27] helping the public understand
[5:05:30] how we can get those property
[5:05:31] taxes given to us from
[5:05:31] the state increased for our
[5:05:32] property taxes.
[5:05:36] I heard you actually mention
[5:05:36] this before and we will MISS
[5:05:37] You when you're out of office
[5:05:38] No longer able to provide
[5:05:41] the historical scope of where
[5:05:41] our problems are sourced from.
[5:05:45] Also the gap between the 10.3
[5:05:45] million in arts funding that
[5:05:46] you restored and the 1.8 that
[5:05:49] you mentioned previously that
[5:05:50] was issued for the arts last
[5:05:51] year could be closed and
[5:05:51] the arts could be fully
[5:05:54] restored simply by cutting and
[5:05:55] canceling the flop contract
[5:05:56] which has already exceeded its
[5:05:59] value in the current lawsuit
[5:05:59] that it's facing for
[5:06:00] the violation of the human
[5:06:04] rights For the two gentlemen
[5:06:04] that I mentioned with the story
[5:06:05] that broke yesterday, County
[5:06:09] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Kent
[5:06:10] Lee motivated by what you said
[5:06:10] earlier, how the public is
[5:06:13] lacking trust about some of
[5:06:14] the programs, how they work and
[5:06:15] how the money is being spent
[5:06:18] within some of these programs
[5:06:19] Totally agree that we all can
[5:06:19] feel loved.
[5:06:22] Your detailed analysis on how
[5:06:23] much it would cost to catch up
[5:06:24] to L.A. Standards of
[5:06:26] comparative pay and how it
[5:06:27] would take $0.06 for every
[5:06:28] $0.03 I think is what you
[5:06:28] mentioned.
[5:06:32] And I also dig the haircut.
[5:06:32] Council member Marni von
[5:06:33] Wilpert loved the French tips.
[5:06:34] The ring looks new.
[5:06:37] If so, congratulations and your
[5:06:38] time of course concluded
[5:06:39] Francine Maxwell if you can
[5:06:44] please unmute the afternoon.
[5:06:45] >> Francine Maxwell
[5:06:45] Southeastern San Diego resident
[5:06:46] Thank you so much for
[5:06:49] the presentation.
[5:06:49] I completely agree that
[5:06:50] the million dollar fee that we
[5:06:54] have to pay the attorneys was
[5:06:54] well worth it.
[5:06:59] We continue to throw around.
[5:07:00] We want to build trust and lack
[5:07:00] trust.
[5:07:00] Let's have a trusting
[5:07:03] conversation and tell us if
[5:07:03] every kiosk that was going to
[5:07:08] we're working on removing cost
[5:07:08] is $750,000.
[5:07:13] Let's have an honest dialog and
[5:07:14] conversation about the dollar
[5:07:14] amounts that are going to be
[5:07:18] returned if we begin to be
[5:07:19] fully transparent because
[5:07:19] everyone has a different
[5:07:23] definite vision of transparency
[5:07:24] we can begin to build trust
[5:07:28] because trust is absolutely
[5:07:28] lacking And if we want to
[5:07:29] compare ourselves to L.A.
[5:07:32] There's a whole bunch of other
[5:07:33] things that we would need to
[5:07:37] compare to L.A. Like how it
[5:07:38] lays oversight to the police is
[5:07:42] far different from the cpa that
[5:07:43] we have here in San Diego.
[5:07:44] So let's begin If we want to do
[5:07:47] apples and apples or apples and
[5:07:48] oranges, let's go ahead But
[5:07:49] again, let's do it straight
[5:07:52] across the board again to give
[5:07:57] Kevin Faulkner a compliment
[5:07:57] That was hilarious to have him
[5:07:58] standing in the building with
[5:08:02] Hillary if again
[5:08:03] the desperation for
[5:08:07] performative antics continues
[5:08:08] we must stop it.
[5:08:12] You made a mistake Come and ask
[5:08:13] for forgiveness and let's move
[5:08:13] forward.
[5:08:16] Thank you.
[5:08:17] >> Next is John Stump.
[5:08:21] If you can please unmute.
[5:08:26] Okay now you got a new
[5:08:27] completely support this action
[5:08:30] It was a mistake in the first
[5:08:30] place.
[5:08:35] You knew it was a mistake but
[5:08:40] you've got to get back to why
[5:08:41] do we have a ballpark ballpark
[5:08:45] for those that you don't know
[5:08:49] was to preserve a watershed
[5:08:50] The only viable watershed for
[5:08:55] downtown It was a public park
[5:08:56] until somebody came up with
[5:09:00] the idea let's have a fair And
[5:09:01] then they built all that junk
[5:09:04] and turn it turned a park into
[5:09:09] an amusement park.
[5:09:10] What you need to do to make up
[5:09:11] this private You know what I've
[5:09:12] told you before?
[5:09:17] It's those amusements in
[5:09:18] the park that make significant
[5:09:22] money like the Old Globe,
[5:09:27] the zoo, art museum, the space
[5:09:32] theater.
[5:09:32] They have to contribute their
[5:09:36] share of the revenues they they
[5:09:36] generate.
[5:09:40] Look at their nine 90s, see how
[5:09:40] much cash is coming in if
[5:09:44] they're paying anybody over
[5:09:45] $200,000 they've got extra
[5:09:45] cash.
[5:09:49] >> They're paying you.
[5:09:50] >> Thank you very much.
[5:09:55] Thank you All three speakers
[5:09:55] Thank you.
[5:09:56] There are three speakers left
[5:09:56] in the queue.
[5:09:58] The five minute timer has
[5:09:59] concluded no additional
[5:09:59] speakers will be taken.
[5:10:00] Blair Beckman if you can please
[5:10:03] unmute that short amount of
[5:10:07] time where Big Ben my zoom cut
[5:10:08] out previously I'm really sorry
[5:10:08] about that.
[5:10:09] I wanted to speak with
[5:10:13] firefighters around.
[5:10:14] I wanted to up my local public
[5:10:14] comment.
[5:10:16] Hopefully I can my items can be
[5:10:17] relevant later.
[5:10:18] Thank you for this item and
[5:10:21] that you have in the way you're
[5:10:22] working your you're being
[5:10:23] flexible and how you can work
[5:10:26] And I find that really
[5:10:26] interesting.
[5:10:27] Thank you.
[5:10:27] I like the words of Joyce
[5:10:31] Sonata I would think kind of
[5:10:32] agreement and how Joyce was
[5:10:32] thinking we really need to
[5:10:36] consider revenue ideas and this
[5:10:37] I thought was a way to do it.
[5:10:40] You had a speaker, MR. Kaminski
[5:10:41] works on the Park Commission
[5:10:41] process.
[5:10:42] He's been very elegant this
[5:10:46] past month how to address
[5:10:47] the baseball park issues And he
[5:10:48] mentioned the idea you know,
[5:10:51] you could have fares for $2 and
[5:10:54] $5 and that would be a much
[5:10:55] more sensible and reasonable
[5:10:56] approach that respects
[5:10:56] the concepts of government.
[5:11:00] You know, in how you use set
[5:11:01] set fees.
[5:11:04] I mean you guys are putting
[5:11:04] fees like rock stars, like
[5:11:05] we're all rock stars or that
[5:11:09] we're a big private corporation
[5:11:10] And I felt that was the really
[5:11:14] wrong approach And I think you
[5:11:15] could have done a lot more
[5:11:15] reasonably and very much with
[5:11:18] thank you to people like Paul
[5:11:19] Kruger who really tried to
[5:11:20] point out how the fee process
[5:11:24] was actually trying to work and
[5:11:25] you guys are having
[5:11:25] difficulties to explain that
[5:11:26] more clearly.
[5:11:29] I tried my darndest to help
[5:11:30] just to help that and I think
[5:11:31] we're we're learning that
[5:11:34] accountability better and I
[5:11:35] hope we remember that lesson
[5:11:35] for the future.
[5:11:37] >> Thank you am has concluded
[5:11:38] Samantha if you can please
[5:11:43] unmute get it afternoon It's my
[5:11:43] first time trying to speak
[5:11:47] remotely.
[5:11:47] >> Can you hear me?
[5:11:48] Yes we can.
[5:11:48] Please proceed.
[5:11:52] Okay first of all thank you to
[5:11:53] the council members.
[5:11:56] This is my first time paying
[5:11:57] attention to a full Budget
[5:12:01] committee process and over
[5:12:02] the last few weeks and I'm
[5:12:05] going I find it very
[5:12:06] inspirational and I feel that
[5:12:11] the community has been able to
[5:12:11] speak And oftentimes I've heard
[5:12:15] council members say before
[5:12:15] going to public comment let's
[5:12:16] hear what the public has to
[5:12:16] say.
[5:12:20] And so I hope that the public
[5:12:25] is listening all all ages from
[5:12:25] high school and every decade
[5:12:30] beyond And this is an example
[5:12:34] of it And I'm very thankful
[5:12:35] that they've listened and will
[5:12:36] be removing the parking fees
[5:12:40] Now some revenue suggestions
[5:12:40] and some of these have been
[5:12:44] stated over the last few weeks
[5:12:45] naming rights to specific
[5:12:49] public areas within the city of
[5:12:50] San Diego and these could be
[5:12:54] naming rights that are each
[5:12:58] year and they could go to bid
[5:12:59] for corporations or even
[5:12:59] individuals could bid for
[5:13:03] naming rights and that would
[5:13:04] only last a year And every
[5:13:04] year, you know have the same
[5:13:10] sort of submission process.
[5:13:11] You know, another thing would
[5:13:15] be a shuttle I'm sorry That
[5:13:16] does conclude your time.
[5:13:20] I can definitely send in
[5:13:21] additional comments The city
[5:13:21] clerk at San diego.Gov and
[5:13:24] those will be distributed
[5:13:30] Margaret Very similar.
[5:13:31] >> And then our final speakers
[5:13:31] honors.
[5:13:32] Hi, my name is Margaret for a
[5:13:34] small founder of San Diego
[5:13:34] United Communities.
[5:13:35] I'm here today because
[5:13:38] the people of the city are done
[5:13:39] waiting.
[5:13:39] We are here to demand
[5:13:40] the immediate repeal of these
[5:13:44] fees not next year, not in 2027
[5:13:45] but today.
[5:13:45] Every day the council delays
[5:13:49] you are choosing to balance
[5:13:50] your budget on the backs of our
[5:13:50] residents.
[5:13:51] You call it fiscal policy.
[5:13:54] We call it systematic
[5:13:55] extraction of wealth from
[5:13:58] families who are already
[5:13:59] struggling to keep the lights
[5:14:00] on and food on the table.
[5:14:03] You are effectively telling
[5:14:03] the people of San Diego that
[5:14:04] your administration
[5:14:04] administrative convenience is
[5:14:08] more important than their
[5:14:08] survival.
[5:14:09] This delay is an insult to
[5:14:13] thousands of signatures we have
[5:14:13] collected.
[5:14:17] It is dereliction of your duty
[5:14:18] to represent the people of San
[5:14:19] Diego, not the bureaucracy.
[5:14:22] You know these fees are unjust
[5:14:23] and you all know they are
[5:14:24] unsustainable.
[5:14:27] You continue to hold them over
[5:14:28] our heads waiting for an
[5:14:32] arbitrary date on a calendar
[5:14:32] year that benefits no one but
[5:14:36] the architects of this tax hike
[5:14:36] .
[5:14:37] We are finished with being told
[5:14:38] to wait for the next budget
[5:14:38] cycle.
[5:14:41] We are finished with empty
[5:14:42] promises of future relief while
[5:14:43] our park accounts are drained
[5:14:46] in present.
[5:14:47] If you truly believe in
[5:14:50] the economic vitality of our
[5:14:50] neighborhoods you have one
[5:14:51] choice Vote to strike these
[5:14:52] fees out today off your books
[5:14:55] effective immediately If you
[5:14:56] choose to keep them in place do
[5:14:57] not pretend you don't know
[5:15:00] the harm you are causing.
[5:15:01] >> We are watching.
[5:15:01] We are waiting.
[5:15:02] We are organized.
[5:15:05] Repeal the fees today And then
[5:15:05] Leonard, are you wanting to
[5:15:12] speak on the paid parking fees
[5:15:12] ?
[5:15:17] I cannot vote for you so I will
[5:15:18] have to go conclude public.
[5:15:23] >> I'm sorry I was waiting to
[5:15:23] speak on the trash.
[5:15:23] Okay.
[5:15:24] That will be next.
[5:15:27] That does conclude public
[5:15:27] comment on this item.
[5:15:28] >> All right.
[5:15:28] Thank you, City clerk We'll
[5:15:31] turn it over to the council for
[5:15:32] questions, comments and
[5:15:33] entertain a motion and we'll
[5:15:37] start out with the architect of
[5:15:38] the settlement agreement is
[5:15:42] council member Whippany.
[5:15:42] Thank you.
[5:15:43] And I want to thank everyone at
[5:15:44] the city who has worked on this
[5:15:46] M.B.A General Manager Michaels
[5:15:46] who cared our council
[5:15:47] PRESIDENT, my council
[5:15:51] colleagues who supported this
[5:15:51] in closed session Rolando
[5:15:52] Chevelle, the Finance
[5:15:56] department, the office of
[5:15:56] the Independent Budget analyst,
[5:15:57] the mayor's office and several
[5:15:58] city departments have been
[5:16:01] involved with this action.
[5:16:02] We are formally approving
[5:16:06] the repeal of paid parking at
[5:16:06] Balboa Park.
[5:16:07] We will restore free parking
[5:16:07] for everyone.
[5:16:11] We will restore free parking
[5:16:12] broadly at the parking lots but
[5:16:13] also add the streets in Balboa
[5:16:16] Park and we will refund any
[5:16:17] portion of annual passes that
[5:16:21] extends beyond the end of this
[5:16:21] year.
[5:16:22] I appreciate the comments of
[5:16:23] MR. Kopecky about the Balboa
[5:16:26] Park Cultural Partnership
[5:16:26] representing the museums and
[5:16:27] the arts and culture
[5:16:28] organizations at the park who
[5:16:30] shared that this repeal carrot
[5:16:31] club suited us.
[5:16:32] I will make the motion to adopt
[5:16:35] the proposed actions and repeal
[5:16:36] paid parking in Balboa Park.
[5:16:36] All right.
[5:16:37] Thank you.
[5:16:41] Council member Whitburn.
[5:16:42] So we have a motion to move
[5:16:42] The staff recommendation will
[5:16:43] go next.
[5:16:45] Councilmember Camp you Thank
[5:16:46] you Council PRESIDENT.
[5:16:50] I'll happily second his motion
[5:16:50] unless your council PRESIDENT
[5:16:51] Would like to second it all.
[5:16:52] >> Thank you.
[5:16:55] Today's action Thank you
[5:16:56] Councilmember Whitburn for your
[5:16:56] hard work on this And today's
[5:16:57] action is a victory for
[5:16:59] accessibility and affordability
[5:17:00] and a crown jewel of San Diego.
[5:17:03] I was proud to have been one of
[5:17:03] the councilmembers to vote
[5:17:04] against paid parking in Balboa
[5:17:05] Park last OCTOBER because I
[5:17:08] believed then as I do now that
[5:17:09] access to one of San Diego's
[5:17:09] most treasured public places
[5:17:13] should not come with the added
[5:17:13] financial burden especially
[5:17:14] based on where you live in our
[5:17:17] region because Balboa Park
[5:17:18] belongs to everyone.
[5:17:18] It's a gathering place for
[5:17:19] families and it's a destination
[5:17:22] for visitors from across
[5:17:23] the region and the world And
[5:17:23] it's a source of recreation and
[5:17:26] enrichment for residents.
[5:17:27] It's a vital source for seniors
[5:17:28] who rely on the parks, cultural
[5:17:28] and educational and
[5:17:32] recreational opportunities.
[5:17:32] So this decision will not only
[5:17:33] benefit museums and theaters,
[5:17:36] gardens and nonprofit
[5:17:37] organizations and cultural
[5:17:38] institutions that make Balboa
[5:17:38] Park the heart of civic and
[5:17:41] cultural life, it benefits
[5:17:42] everyone.
[5:17:42] Of course these organizations
[5:17:43] depend on visitors and members
[5:17:46] volunteers and community
[5:17:47] engagement making the park more
[5:17:48] accessible to lower income and
[5:17:48] middle class.
[5:17:52] San Diego and help strengthen
[5:17:52] those institutions that educate
[5:17:53] our children and preserve our
[5:17:53] history.
[5:17:56] Celebrate our diversity and
[5:17:57] contribute significantly to
[5:17:57] the local economy.
[5:18:00] Whether you're a senior
[5:18:01] visiting museum or a family
[5:18:02] attending a community event or
[5:18:06] a volunteer supporting a
[5:18:06] nonprofit or just a visitor
[5:18:09] experience San Diego for
[5:18:10] the first time this repeal
[5:18:11] makes it easier to enjoy one of
[5:18:14] the city's greatest public
[5:18:15] assets.
[5:18:15] So I want to thank the members
[5:18:16] of the public who rallied to
[5:18:17] show just how important this
[5:18:19] repeal was is and
[5:18:20] the organizations like
[5:18:20] the Balboa Park Cultural
[5:18:24] Partnership and Forever, Bilbao
[5:18:25] Balboa Park, the Old Globe and
[5:18:25] the Model Railroad Museum,
[5:18:29] the Prado the Air and Space
[5:18:30] Museum, the Men\ World Beach
[5:18:30] Cultural Center I could go on
[5:18:33] and on and on and on.
[5:18:34] I remain committed to policies
[5:18:34] that expand access to public
[5:18:38] spaces like these and support
[5:18:38] our residents and visitors and
[5:18:39] institutions alike.
[5:18:39] And I hope this is just
[5:18:40] the beginning of the City
[5:18:43] Council advocating for and
[5:18:44] investing in Balboa Park in
[5:18:44] the way it deserves.
[5:18:49] Thank you that I'll conclude my
[5:18:49] second.
[5:18:50] >> All right.
[5:18:50] Thank you, Councilmember Campo.
[5:18:53] We have I could have gotten
[5:18:57] that applause You still can We
[5:18:58] have a motion by council member
[5:18:58] Whitburn and a second by
[5:19:02] Council member Campo to move
[5:19:02] the recommendation.
[5:19:03] We'll go next to Council member
[5:19:03] Moreno.
[5:19:06] Thank you and thank you for
[5:19:07] the presentation.
[5:19:08] This item is before us today As
[5:19:11] a result of the recent
[5:19:12] settlement regarding the city's
[5:19:16] solid waste management fee as
[5:19:17] part of the settlement the City
[5:19:17] Council is required to take
[5:19:21] certain discretionary actions
[5:19:21] in public meetings including
[5:19:24] the action before us today.
[5:19:25] One of the reasons I voted
[5:19:26] against last year's budget was
[5:19:29] because it relied on revenue
[5:19:30] from paid parking in Balboa
[5:19:34] Park to help close the city's
[5:19:34] budget gap.
[5:19:35] I also oppose paid parking in
[5:19:38] Balboa Park when it was first
[5:19:39] proposed and I remained opposed
[5:19:44] to it Today Balboa Park is one
[5:19:44] of San Diego's most treasured
[5:19:48] parks.
[5:19:49] Let me say that again Balboa
[5:19:53] Park is one of San Diego's most
[5:19:57] treasured parks.
[5:20:02] It belongs to all San Diegans
[5:20:03] including residents of District
[5:20:07] eight and Access to it should
[5:20:08] not depend on a person's
[5:20:11] ability to pay.
[5:20:12] During the discussion
[5:20:13] surrounding the park fee I
[5:20:17] raised concerns about growing
[5:20:17] financial burdens being placed
[5:20:21] on residents At the time
[5:20:22] families were already facing
[5:20:26] increases in water rates, user
[5:20:29] fees and other rising costs for
[5:20:30] residents and District eight
[5:20:34] Every additional fee matters
[5:20:35] Paid parking creates a barrier
[5:20:38] that impacts the quality of
[5:20:39] District eight residents
[5:20:39] especially seniors and
[5:20:43] especially low income.
[5:20:44] I am very pleased to see this
[5:20:48] item before us today and I know
[5:20:49] that residents will once again
[5:20:52] be able to enjoy Balboa Park
[5:20:53] without having to navigate a
[5:20:57] very complicated system very
[5:20:58] complicated parking fee that I
[5:21:02] couldn't even figure out and
[5:21:06] including its time limits
[5:21:07] Balboa Park will continue to be
[5:21:11] a Nexus hub where San Diegans
[5:21:12] experience culture history
[5:21:17] knowledge maybe even a date.
[5:21:18] Can we even say that right now?
[5:21:21] Maybe even a date?
[5:21:22] So for constituents in District
[5:21:23] eight every additional cost
[5:21:25] matter.
[5:21:26] So removing these parking fees
[5:21:27] helps ensure that access to one
[5:21:31] of our most treasured public
[5:21:31] spaces.
[5:21:32] I'm glad to see Balboa Park
[5:21:36] once again become a place that
[5:21:36] is open and accessible to my
[5:21:39] residents and District eight
[5:21:40] reflecting the values that make
[5:21:41] San Diego the city we're also
[5:21:45] proud to call home.
[5:21:46] Now I would be remiss if I
[5:21:49] didn't think Zoo Cat with a my
[5:21:50] colleague Stephen Whitburn and
[5:21:50] all parties involved in
[5:21:54] the settlement of this case.
[5:21:55] So I will be extremely
[5:21:56] supportive of the motion before
[5:22:00] us today and I think everybody
[5:22:00] involved.
[5:22:01] All right.
[5:22:01] Thank you, Councilmember
[5:22:02] Moreno.
[5:22:02] We'll go next to Councilmember
[5:22:05] Isla Rivera.
[5:22:06] >> Thank you, Council
[5:22:06] PRESIDENT.
[5:22:07] Let me start by thanking
[5:22:09] COUNCILMAN Whitburn, you
[5:22:10] council PRESIDENT For your
[5:22:11] engagement on this issue.
[5:22:14] I also want to thank Emily, you
[5:22:15] and all the staff that worked
[5:22:16] so hard to get this set up an
[5:22:19] enormous amount of time was put
[5:22:24] into this And as frustrated as
[5:22:24] many of us including myself
[5:22:28] were with with the roll out,
[5:22:29] that doesn't negate that an
[5:22:31] immense effort was put into it
[5:22:31] .
[5:22:36] So thank you for that.
[5:22:40] So I think this is largely
[5:22:41] good.
[5:22:41] I'm going to name one thing
[5:22:42] that I don't actually think is
[5:22:44] in the best interest of San
[5:22:48] Diego is here access to
[5:22:49] the park for residents?
[5:22:54] Absolutely.
[5:22:54] From the beginning I thought it
[5:22:58] should be free and I do not
[5:22:59] think San Diego is better off
[5:23:00] when we subsidize the vacations
[5:23:03] of folks who are expecting to
[5:23:04] pay to park here And we can
[5:23:08] disagree on that.
[5:23:09] But it is not better for San
[5:23:13] Diego to allow free parking for
[5:23:14] his or for someone who flew
[5:23:18] across country and rented a car
[5:23:19] and expected and expected full
[5:23:19] well that they would be paying
[5:23:21] for parking.
[5:23:26] >> So it is a conversation I
[5:23:30] think we need to wrestle with
[5:23:35] which is commitment to keeping
[5:23:36] costs down for residents
[5:23:40] without having them subsidize
[5:23:41] in other ways the experiences
[5:23:42] of people or people who are
[5:23:45] vacationing here slightly
[5:23:46] different but not completely
[5:23:50] unrelated is the way that
[5:23:50] the rest of the county views
[5:23:51] the city of San Diego.
[5:23:55] I would be all for county
[5:23:55] residents also having free
[5:24:00] access.
[5:24:01] Unfortunately when the city of
[5:24:04] San Diego shows up to get our
[5:24:05] fair share of regional
[5:24:05] transportation dollars,
[5:24:09] the cities who were most loud
[5:24:10] who showed up at the press
[5:24:11] conferences to demand free
[5:24:14] parking for their residents
[5:24:14] actively block our cities
[5:24:19] proportional representation at
[5:24:20] sandag and every every attempt
[5:24:23] we make for proportional
[5:24:24] distribution of regional
[5:24:28] transportation funds they do
[5:24:29] that.
[5:24:29] Those same mayors they sit on
[5:24:30] that they sit at sandag and
[5:24:32] they do that.
[5:24:38] So again, I'm glad that we're
[5:24:38] going to make the aloha free
[5:24:42] for residents and let's not kid
[5:24:43] ourselves that while we are
[5:24:44] doing that we are also
[5:24:48] subsidizing vacations for folks
[5:24:48] who can afford to come here And
[5:24:52] we are granting free access
[5:24:57] which I understand the case for
[5:24:57] for folks outside the city But
[5:25:02] I think it's I think it's only
[5:25:03] fair especially given
[5:25:03] the conversation we just had We
[5:25:07] just had firefighters and
[5:25:07] lifeguards begging to be paid a
[5:25:08] fair wage that they can stay
[5:25:12] and stay working at this city
[5:25:12] And we're going to be
[5:25:13] subsidizing vacations and we're
[5:25:16] going to be giving cities who
[5:25:17] have who don't have the decency
[5:25:17] to give us proportional
[5:25:21] representation of our regional
[5:25:22] transportation body giving them
[5:25:22] free access as well.
[5:25:27] So I appreciate the work that
[5:25:27] was done on this.
[5:25:30] I, I very much dislike that we
[5:25:31] needed to take the path that we
[5:25:36] took to get get here and I hope
[5:25:36] that in the future we get to a
[5:25:37] place where we are more willing
[5:25:41] to stand on the fact that San
[5:25:41] Diego is one of the most
[5:25:42] attractive tourist destinations
[5:25:45] in the country and asking folks
[5:25:46] to pay to park when they are
[5:25:50] vacationing here will not have
[5:25:50] them fleeing San Diego We are
[5:25:54] plenty beautiful and the things
[5:25:55] that we have here are plenty
[5:25:59] attractive to get folks to pay
[5:26:00] their fair share and not our
[5:26:00] San Diego residents to
[5:26:04] subsidize those experiences.
[5:26:05] >> Thank you, Council
[5:26:05] PRESIDENT.
[5:26:05] All right.
[5:26:06] Thank you Councilmember.
[5:26:09] You are not sitting very often
[5:26:10] light fell off offer I guess a
[5:26:13] couple of comments.
[5:26:14] I'm not sure how much more
[5:26:15] needs to be said.
[5:26:15] You know, I I'm grateful for
[5:26:19] the role I played in breaking
[5:26:19] the glass door that said you
[5:26:23] need to talk with everybody and
[5:26:24] bring everybody to the table to
[5:26:25] get to real solutions to very
[5:26:28] real problems.
[5:26:29] And while my initial effort
[5:26:30] didn't quite work,
[5:26:33] Councilmember Whitburn stepped
[5:26:34] through that door and was able
[5:26:35] to close the deal and end up at
[5:26:38] the settlement agreement we
[5:26:39] have here, it clearly as
[5:26:43] the presentation showed it will
[5:26:44] come at a cost And to be clear
[5:26:49] Charles, there's no cost for
[5:26:49] the removal of the existing
[5:26:50] kiosk.
[5:26:53] There's no cost for
[5:26:54] the contract with the third
[5:26:55] party vendor that we have or
[5:26:58] nothing appreciable is that
[5:26:59] correct?
[5:27:00] There shouldn't be a cost to
[5:27:04] terminate the well.
[5:27:04] It's actually to reduce a
[5:27:05] contract and we also have
[5:27:06] meters elsewhere to the extent
[5:27:06] that there's a cost to actually
[5:27:08] move the kiosk themselves it
[5:27:09] would likely be covered in
[5:27:13] the reduced operating
[5:27:13] expenditures.
[5:27:14] They will have to actually have
[5:27:15] enforcement So there's no
[5:27:18] appreciable impact for that.
[5:27:18] All right.
[5:27:19] I thought that be the case.
[5:27:20] But since we're caught up in
[5:27:23] budget conversations I wanted
[5:27:23] to I wanted to confirm that I
[5:27:28] do want to thank the city
[5:27:28] employees that moved heaven and
[5:27:32] earth to make this happen.
[5:27:33] I can see Emily.
[5:27:34] I can see Conrad there way in
[5:27:38] the back and every level from
[5:27:42] the mayor's office through
[5:27:43] the people that did
[5:27:43] the installation.
[5:27:44] You did a lot of work on it.
[5:27:47] Very appreciative And this is
[5:27:48] no reflection on the work that
[5:27:51] you all did.
[5:27:52] The timing was unfortunate.
[5:27:56] The mood of the visitors
[5:27:57] despite we're actually seeing
[5:28:01] that uptick and my wife gives
[5:28:02] me a regular report about how
[5:28:02] many people are using Balboa
[5:28:06] Park But this is what we've all
[5:28:06] agreed to.
[5:28:07] This is actually the third vote
[5:28:11] on this matter for those that
[5:28:11] are curious, we voted on this
[5:28:12] in closed session.
[5:28:13] We voted at this morning on
[5:28:15] consent and this is the formal
[5:28:16] action we have to do to kind of
[5:28:19] close that end of
[5:28:19] the settlement agreement.
[5:28:24] I'm glad to hear that this
[5:28:25] probably won't impact our f y
[5:28:26] 27 budget.
[5:28:30] This particular item we'll have
[5:28:34] to deal with this in f y 28
[5:28:34] making our cost but again is
[5:28:38] going to hit us in the wallet.
[5:28:39] Yeah but it's a lot better than
[5:28:40] the alternative that we were
[5:28:43] facing.
[5:28:44] And then to be absolutely clear
[5:28:44] about something I heard this
[5:28:47] was never the subject of
[5:28:48] litigation.
[5:28:48] This was a byproduct I got
[5:28:49] thrown in to make
[5:28:52] the settlement agreement happen
[5:28:53] but there was never any
[5:28:57] litigation about the authority
[5:28:58] that was there or how it was
[5:29:01] implemented.
[5:29:02] So I don't want anybody to kind
[5:29:07] of confuse that So with that of
[5:29:08] course I'll be agreeing with
[5:29:08] this.
[5:29:09] I think it's the right thing
[5:29:11] for us to do given where we are
[5:29:12] today and then we'll deal with
[5:29:17] next year next year.
[5:29:18] So with that I'll go back to or
[5:29:21] I'll go to Councilmember
[5:29:22] Bumblebee.
[5:29:22] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[5:29:23] Just thank you everybody for
[5:29:23] being here today.
[5:29:27] You know Balboa Park is it is
[5:29:28] one of the gems of our city and
[5:29:31] it attracts people from all
[5:29:31] around the globe to come here
[5:29:32] and thank you for the folks
[5:29:33] from the partnership from
[5:29:35] the museums who make it work.
[5:29:36] You know, I was very hopeful
[5:29:37] that this fund would be used to
[5:29:41] do the maintenance we need on
[5:29:42] our park.
[5:29:42] It's a jam with long overdue
[5:29:43] maintenance.
[5:29:46] We need new sewer lines, new
[5:29:46] pipes, we need new roofs, new
[5:29:51] age bags And that was the goal
[5:29:51] that I was hopeful for this
[5:29:52] revenue source.
[5:29:52] But I crafted the budget
[5:29:53] hearings.
[5:29:55] I said if we don't have a full
[5:29:56] accounting that every single
[5:29:57] dime people pay for parking is
[5:30:00] going in to restoring Balboa
[5:30:01] Park And I will call for
[5:30:02] the full repeal And I have not
[5:30:02] been satisfied that we have
[5:30:06] used it to to the original
[5:30:06] intent.
[5:30:07] So I'm glad to be voting today
[5:30:07] to repeal parking fees in
[5:30:12] Balboa Park and I will vote
[5:30:12] yes.
[5:30:12] All right.
[5:30:13] Thank you.
[5:30:14] Councilmember Yvonne Walbert
[5:30:16] not to anybody else.
[5:30:17] So we have a motion by council
[5:30:17] member Whitburn, the second by
[5:30:21] council member Campo To move
[5:30:21] the recommendation please call
[5:30:23] the roll I'm sorry the voting
[5:30:28] system Please cast your vote
[5:30:28] that passes unanimously.
[5:30:32] >> Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
[5:30:33] All right.
[5:30:37] >> Thank you.
[5:30:41] Okay with that please introduce
[5:30:41] item 640 item six four.
[5:30:42] It is a rejection of solid
[5:30:43] waste management fee in fiscal
[5:30:46] year 2028 and 2029.
[5:30:47] If you'd like to speak to this
[5:30:51] item, now's the time to raise
[5:30:52] your hand by pressing Star nine
[5:30:52] or the raise your hand icon if
[5:30:53] you're participating virtually
[5:30:56] or if you're here in person to
[5:30:57] please submit your speakers up
[5:30:57] to the front of the room in
[5:30:58] the clear box.
[5:30:58] Thank you.
[5:31:03] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[5:31:04] Oh bless you.
[5:31:09] I see staff has settled in.
[5:31:09] Introduce yourselves for
[5:31:10] the record and let us know how
[5:31:11] much time you need for your
[5:31:13] presentation.
[5:31:14] Good afternoon, Council
[5:31:15] PRESIDENT Council members My
[5:31:15] name is Jeremy Bauer.
[5:31:19] I'm assistant director
[5:31:19] Environmental Services joined
[5:31:20] today with Assistant Director
[5:31:20] Jeremy Lugo.
[5:31:22] MAY have 15 minutes for today's
[5:31:23] presentation.
[5:31:27] All right, when you're ready.
[5:31:28] >> All right.
[5:31:28] Okay.
[5:31:29] Good afternoon.
[5:31:29] For today's presentation we're
[5:31:32] going to cover the proposed
[5:31:33] action before council today.
[5:31:34] Background on the solid waste
[5:31:37] management fee and how we got
[5:31:38] to where we are today.
[5:31:39] How esd leveraged our existing
[5:31:42] rate model to produce
[5:31:43] the proportional fees that were
[5:31:43] presented today.
[5:31:48] The updated fees themselves
[5:31:48] with the reduced rates.
[5:31:49] We'll discuss some of
[5:31:53] the fiscal impacts of today's
[5:31:53] decision as well as an updated
[5:31:58] outlook of the Solid Waste
[5:31:59] Management Fund including
[5:31:59] projected revenues,
[5:32:04] expenditures, subsidies and
[5:32:04] fund balance.
[5:32:05] We'll review some additional
[5:32:05] operational and policy
[5:32:08] considerations.
[5:32:08] >> And we'll cover the timeline
[5:32:13] for implementation.
[5:32:14] The action before Council today
[5:32:14] is to adopt a revised Solid
[5:32:18] waste management fee for fiscal
[5:32:19] years 28 and 29.
[5:32:24] Those revised ts would become
[5:32:24] effective on JULY 1st, 2027 and
[5:32:28] JULY 1st, 2028.
[5:32:29] This action does not revise
[5:32:33] the fee for the current fiscal
[5:32:34] year nor does it impact the fee
[5:32:35] for the next fiscal year which
[5:32:38] is set to go into effect JULY
[5:32:39] one, 2026.
[5:32:39] It also does not impact
[5:32:40] the city's approach to
[5:32:42] collecting the fee through
[5:32:47] the county tax roll.
[5:32:48] So as a reminder back in 2022 a
[5:32:52] majority of voters approved
[5:32:53] amending the People's Ordinance
[5:32:54] which removed a long standing
[5:32:57] prohibition that had prevented
[5:32:58] the city from collecting
[5:32:59] revenue to cover the cost to
[5:32:59] provide solid waste management
[5:33:03] services to eligible customers.
[5:33:04] After adoption and more than a
[5:33:09] year of outreach and engagement
[5:33:09] and a cost of service study
[5:33:10] the city presented last JUNE a
[5:33:13] proposal the Waste management
[5:33:14] fee with rates effective JULY
[5:33:17] 1st, 20 2521 six 2027 and 2028.
[5:33:23] Also last JUNE City Council
[5:33:23] authorized the city to collect
[5:33:24] the fee on the county tax roll.
[5:33:27] Prior to the adoption of
[5:33:28] the fee last year the operation
[5:33:29] was largely funded with
[5:33:33] the general fund.
[5:33:34] In MAY of 26 last month as part
[5:33:35] of a tentative settled
[5:33:38] agreement, city Council agreed
[5:33:39] to consider a reduced fee for
[5:33:42] fiscal years 2829 and today's
[5:33:43] action is to consider that
[5:33:48] reduced fee in an open session
[5:33:48] .
[5:33:52] City used our rate model to
[5:33:53] the same one that was used to
[5:33:54] develop because the sort of
[5:33:58] study initially to protect
[5:33:59] the cost of providing solid
[5:34:00] waste services to city
[5:34:00] customers and to allocate
[5:34:03] allocate those costs to
[5:34:04] customers based on services
[5:34:05] provided and the services each
[5:34:09] property received receives.
[5:34:09] The model also includes an
[5:34:10] input for subsidy.
[5:34:14] That was the case last year as
[5:34:15] well.
[5:34:15] And that input field in
[5:34:16] the model allows us allowed
[5:34:19] the city to observe the impact
[5:34:20] subsidies would have on
[5:34:20] the fee.
[5:34:21] I'll note that last year's fee
[5:34:25] that was adopted included
[5:34:26] subsidy from two sources
[5:34:26] the recycling fund as well as
[5:34:30] the container fund.
[5:34:31] For today's action the city was
[5:34:32] able to leverage that same
[5:34:35] input in the model to increase
[5:34:36] the subsidy amounts such that
[5:34:36] the rates for the 95 gallon
[5:34:40] packages aligned with the rates
[5:34:41] in the agreement under
[5:34:46] consideration today for the 95
[5:34:50] gallon bundle in 2028 and
[5:34:51] the 95 gallon bundle for 2029
[5:34:55] namely that is $38.75 per month
[5:34:59] for fiscal year 28 and 3991 per
[5:34:59] month for fiscal year 29.
[5:35:04] Simultaneously the model
[5:35:05] generated corresponding rates
[5:35:09] for the 65 gallon bundle and
[5:35:10] the 35 gallon bundle as well as
[5:35:11] the additional container rates.
[5:35:15] It was done this way to
[5:35:16] preserve the proportional
[5:35:16] relationship among
[5:35:20] the different services.
[5:35:21] That is in other words,
[5:35:21] the city did not manually set
[5:35:24] the rates for the 65 gallon or
[5:35:25] the 35 gallon.
[5:35:25] Rather we applied the same
[5:35:26] model to preserve that
[5:35:29] proportionality.
[5:35:30] >> This slide shows the revised
[5:35:35] Solid Waste management fee
[5:35:36] schedule at a glance.
[5:35:36] The key things I point out are
[5:35:37] the new rates are those
[5:35:37] involved.
[5:35:40] Those are the right two columns
[5:35:40] in the slide.
[5:35:41] I'll also note under
[5:35:45] the previously adopted fees
[5:35:46] the fees were scheduled to go
[5:35:47] to increase significantly in
[5:35:49] fiscal year 28 and that was to
[5:35:50] align when the weekly recycling
[5:35:50] program and a bulky item
[5:35:55] program were set to begin.
[5:35:56] So that additional revenue was
[5:35:56] set to pay for those programs
[5:36:00] which I'll discuss in a moment
[5:36:00] .
[5:36:01] So I won't go through all of
[5:36:02] these but you'll see consistent
[5:36:02] with our presented in the last
[5:36:03] slide.
[5:36:05] You'll see the 95 gallon
[5:36:06] bundle.
[5:36:10] This is third row is at
[5:36:11] the 3875 and in fiscal year 29
[5:36:14] it goes to 3991.
[5:36:15] And then you'll see the other
[5:36:15] proportional rates for
[5:36:16] the other packages and
[5:36:19] the additional containers.
[5:36:20] >> It's worth noting that
[5:36:24] reducing a fee does not reduce
[5:36:25] the cost to provide service.
[5:36:25] Instead it reduces cost
[5:36:30] recovery from ratepayer
[5:36:30] revenue.
[5:36:31] In other words, it means
[5:36:35] there's a gap between the cost
[5:36:36] to provide service and
[5:36:37] the amount of revenue to cover
[5:36:37] those cost.
[5:36:41] We're proposing to address that
[5:36:42] gap in two ways.
[5:36:46] First is by increasing subsidy
[5:36:47] one from the recycling fund and
[5:36:47] secondly from the general fund.
[5:36:51] I'll discuss the subsidy first.
[5:36:52] For modeling purposes esd
[5:36:52] assumed increasing
[5:36:57] the recycling fund subsidy up
[5:36:58] to $22 million per year for
[5:37:01] both fiscal year 28 and fiscal
[5:37:02] year 29.
[5:37:02] As a reminder, the fee that was
[5:37:03] adopted last JUNE already
[5:37:07] included subsidy from
[5:37:07] the recycling fund.
[5:37:08] This proposal would increase
[5:37:11] that subsidy to up to 22
[5:37:11] million.
[5:37:12] Additionally, the model
[5:37:17] estimates that the department
[5:37:17] will need approximately 10 to
[5:37:18] $11 million of general fund
[5:37:22] subsidy to cover the remaining
[5:37:23] expenditures and that would be
[5:37:24] in addition to existing general
[5:37:24] fund expenditures associated
[5:37:28] with the program.
[5:37:29] One for the financial
[5:37:29] assistance program and two to
[5:37:30] cover some of the onetime costs
[5:37:33] for customer transition and
[5:37:34] expenditures prior to customer
[5:37:39] validation.
[5:37:40] Now on the topic of cutting
[5:37:44] costs because the revised fee
[5:37:45] now depends more on additional
[5:37:46] subsidy.
[5:37:46] Esd is assuming that certain
[5:37:51] activities and costs would be
[5:37:51] deferred, reduced or removed
[5:37:54] during the remainder of
[5:37:55] the four year rate period to
[5:37:56] minimize the amount of subsidy
[5:37:56] needed.
[5:38:01] Those include deferring weekly
[5:38:02] recycling, deferring a bulky
[5:38:02] and pick up program, deferring
[5:38:06] the electric vehicle pilot,
[5:38:07] deferring certain capital
[5:38:07] improvements and reducing or
[5:38:15] delaying the buildup of reserve
[5:38:15] .
[5:38:16] This next slide shows
[5:38:16] the updated outlook.
[5:38:17] The print is kind of small so
[5:38:22] I'll just highlight a few items
[5:38:22] .
[5:38:23] First in the upper left hand
[5:38:23] corner.
[5:38:24] You'll see that the fund began
[5:38:27] at a negative and that was
[5:38:28] largely because of the cost of
[5:38:28] service study, the original
[5:38:32] engagement and the development
[5:38:32] of the portal.
[5:38:33] >> All that work that went on
[5:38:34] on the front end before that he
[5:38:34] was adopted.
[5:38:38] Second, the second line shows
[5:38:38] the rate payer revenue that
[5:38:39] the city is projected to
[5:38:44] collect.
[5:38:45] For this year it's around 118
[5:38:45] million.
[5:38:48] Next year the projection goes
[5:38:49] up to about 125 million.
[5:38:50] Then under the revised fee
[5:38:54] schedule we're now projecting
[5:38:55] around 109 million in fiscal
[5:38:58] year 28 and around 111 million
[5:38:58] for 29.
[5:38:59] You'll also see in this table
[5:39:00] the subsidy from the recycling
[5:39:04] fund which again you'll see
[5:39:05] there is an existing subsidy
[5:39:06] for this year and next year.
[5:39:07] And you'll see that the scope
[5:39:10] of the subsidy is projected to
[5:39:11] increase up to $22 million per
[5:39:15] year for fiscal year 29 and 28.
[5:39:16] Fourth you'll see the line for
[5:39:20] the general fund subsidy where
[5:39:21] we estimate approximately
[5:39:22] 10,000,011 million for fiscal
[5:39:24] year 28 and 29.
[5:39:25] Finally the second to last
[5:39:26] lines underscore the point I
[5:39:31] made in the last slide.
[5:39:31] The expenditures line reflects
[5:39:32] it reflects the reduced
[5:39:37] expenditures removing the costs
[5:39:37] for those deferred programs
[5:39:38] the weekly recycling, the bulky
[5:39:39] item the electric vehicle
[5:39:39] pilot.
[5:39:42] Certain capital expenditures
[5:39:43] and reserve building.
[5:39:43] And then even with those
[5:39:44] adjustments you still see that
[5:39:48] our net position on the fund
[5:39:49] which had previously been
[5:39:49] projected to land in a positive
[5:39:54] territory is still forecast to
[5:39:54] remain negative though
[5:39:55] the negative position does
[5:39:55] reduce from the present to
[5:40:02] fiscal year 29.
[5:40:03] Lastly, we thought it's
[5:40:03] important to raise some
[5:40:04] additional considerations for
[5:40:05] today's conversation.
[5:40:08] First diversion of recyclables
[5:40:09] remains and organics remain
[5:40:09] important to keep those out of
[5:40:14] the landfill.
[5:40:14] When the fee was adopted last
[5:40:15] year last JUNE we emphasized
[5:40:20] the operational necessity of
[5:40:21] weekly recycling emphasizing
[5:40:21] the importance to increase
[5:40:22] diversion to meet
[5:40:26] sustainability goals and extend
[5:40:26] the life of the landfill.
[5:40:27] Now that we have biweekly
[5:40:32] recycling is going to maintain
[5:40:33] for now it means that customers
[5:40:34] MAY need additional recycling
[5:40:38] capacity.
[5:40:39] So we are on task environmental
[5:40:39] services to make sure we engage
[5:40:40] with customers so they know how
[5:40:41] to order an additional
[5:40:44] recycling container should they
[5:40:45] need one.
[5:40:45] So we're able to meet their
[5:40:46] need especially those who MAY
[5:40:49] have elected to choose only one
[5:40:50] container anticipating weekly
[5:40:50] recycling.
[5:40:51] I will note that because
[5:40:55] the fees are subsidized heavily
[5:40:56] by the recycling fund, the fee
[5:40:57] for an additional recycling
[5:41:01] container is now lower than it
[5:41:01] was.
[5:41:02] It's around $6 a month for
[5:41:06] fiscal year 28 and around 650
[5:41:06] for fiscal year 29 just
[5:41:07] significantly less than it was
[5:41:07] before.
[5:41:11] That means that customers who
[5:41:12] need that second recycling
[5:41:13] container I can get one at a
[5:41:13] lower rate than it was before.
[5:41:18] Second, the importance of
[5:41:18] maximizing the life of
[5:41:19] the landfill remains.
[5:41:19] Our latest projection still
[5:41:23] shows capacity at Miramar
[5:41:24] around 2031 and so we're still
[5:41:25] planning for that reality.
[5:41:30] An important part of that
[5:41:30] planning is a transfer station
[5:41:31] which is essentially a facility
[5:41:36] or a covered pavilion where
[5:41:37] municipal waste can be taken
[5:41:37] and then consolidated into
[5:41:38] larger transfer vehicles and
[5:41:42] taken to another nearby
[5:41:42] landfill.
[5:41:43] And you see on the slide a
[5:41:43] couple of the local landfills
[5:41:48] in the county.
[5:41:48] In the meantime, Miramar
[5:41:49] remains the primary disposal
[5:41:50] location for municipal waste
[5:41:53] with some waste currently going
[5:41:54] to otir Sycamore.
[5:41:54] And in the meantime as well,
[5:41:55] the department will evaluate
[5:41:59] whether there are opportunities
[5:42:00] to take more of the waste to
[5:42:01] those other landfills.
[5:42:01] Weighing the tradeoffs related
[5:42:05] to travel time staffing,
[5:42:06] efficiency and operational
[5:42:07] costs will also continue to
[5:42:07] update our outlooks on
[5:42:12] the landfill projections for
[5:42:13] closure pending any changes to
[5:42:14] tonnage due to improvements in
[5:42:18] diversion like we've seen with
[5:42:18] the organics program as well as
[5:42:19] any changes to the anticipated
[5:42:23] closure date.
[5:42:24] >> So the anticipated timeline
[5:42:28] JULY 1st, 2025 excuse me JULY
[5:42:29] 1st, 2026 The previously
[5:42:34] adopted fee for 2027 goes into
[5:42:34] effect.
[5:42:38] So that's $44.57 for the 95
[5:42:38] gallon bundle.
[5:42:39] And then JULY 1st, 2027 would
[5:42:42] be the date of the first
[5:42:43] revised fee going into effect
[5:42:44] for the fiscal year 2080 and
[5:42:48] JULY 1st, 2028 would be
[5:42:49] the date for the 3991
[5:42:52] the revised fee for fiscal year
[5:42:53] 29.
[5:42:53] >> And with that I'll post a
[5:42:54] comment in the questions.
[5:42:58] All right.
[5:42:59] Thank you for the presentation
[5:43:00] and the work to bring this item
[5:43:00] forward.
[5:43:04] We'll go down to the office of
[5:43:05] the Ida Jordan Baker Council
[5:43:06] PRESIDENT Jordan Law fiscal
[5:43:06] policy analyst with the Office
[5:43:10] of the aba.
[5:43:11] I've just briefly we did review
[5:43:11] the cost of service model that
[5:43:12] Jeremy mentioned to bring
[5:43:16] the proportional
[5:43:17] proportionality analysis for
[5:43:17] all the fees.
[5:43:18] We're generally in agreement
[5:43:18] with how they did that and
[5:43:22] think that that is a sound way
[5:43:23] to set these fees.
[5:43:23] And for now mostly where my
[5:43:24] comments are going to be are
[5:43:25] going to be a repeat of what
[5:43:29] you heard on Friday as you now
[5:43:29] see in the re model for
[5:43:30] the outlook.
[5:43:30] You can expect a $10.8 million
[5:43:31] general fund subsidy that's
[5:43:35] required in 2028 a $10 Million
[5:43:36] subsidy required in 2029
[5:43:36] because the fees are now no
[5:43:41] longer set to be in a way that
[5:43:41] is 100% fully cost recoverable.
[5:43:42] This also means now that
[5:43:47] the general fund in general is
[5:43:47] also exposed If costs for
[5:43:48] collections do increase between
[5:43:49] now and the end of the three
[5:43:53] cycle period, more than it was
[5:43:53] exposed in previous years for
[5:43:54] things such as labor, vehicle
[5:43:58] costs, disposal fees or other
[5:43:59] things such as potentially if
[5:44:00] the recycling fund can't
[5:44:03] support a $22 million subsidy
[5:44:04] the general fund will have to
[5:44:04] pick that up.
[5:44:05] To that end, our office now has
[5:44:09] the recommendation that we are
[5:44:10] pushing which is that we
[5:44:10] believe that environmental
[5:44:11] services should also develop
[5:44:16] and produce a five year
[5:44:16] financial outlook that covers
[5:44:17] their operations with the Solid
[5:44:18] Waste Management Fund as well
[5:44:21] as potentially other enterprise
[5:44:22] funds that can be presented
[5:44:22] along with the general fund and
[5:44:27] beauty outlooks every year so
[5:44:28] that council and the public
[5:44:28] have an idea of whether
[5:44:29] the general fund subsidy is
[5:44:30] going to be required.
[5:44:33] What are potential fee options
[5:44:33] for councils to consider in
[5:44:34] the future and what is
[5:44:35] the future of these enterprise
[5:44:39] funds as a whole?
[5:44:40] I conclude my comments.
[5:44:41] Also available for questions.
[5:44:41] Thank you.
[5:44:41] All right.
[5:44:42] Thank you Jordan.
[5:44:44] Clerk Please proceed with
[5:44:45] public comment.
[5:44:45] >> The council PRESIDENT
[5:44:46] Allegedly order If you can
[5:44:51] please come forward after that
[5:44:53] will be joining Otto You'll
[5:45:01] have a minute and a half.
[5:45:01] >> See, this is nonsense, Joe,
[5:45:02] because you're acting like what
[5:45:05] you did was an illegal prior to
[5:45:05] 18.
[5:45:06] You guys need to be getting
[5:45:07] the majority approval, not a
[5:45:11] majority of people saying they
[5:45:11] don't want it.
[5:45:12] And so with us paying this
[5:45:17] money it's forcing you to
[5:45:17] change what you guys are doing
[5:45:18] and you probably settle because
[5:45:19] you know that it would have
[5:45:23] caused a significant amount
[5:45:24] more to push on.
[5:45:25] And so you guys want a virtue
[5:45:25] signal here like we're doing
[5:45:29] you a favor now we're going
[5:45:30] back and engaging in because
[5:45:34] you couldn't do the right thing
[5:45:34] in the first place.
[5:45:35] All of that money even for
[5:45:35] the trash fees like you were
[5:45:36] getting an exorbitant amount of
[5:45:39] money beyond what you were
[5:45:40] needing And it's like putting
[5:45:41] this on people's property taxes
[5:45:45] so that they lose their home.
[5:45:46] I mean just the negligence that
[5:45:46] you guys engage in is
[5:45:47] ridiculous And the fact that we
[5:45:51] have to come back and revisit
[5:45:52] these things and you guys want
[5:45:52] to sit up here and act like you
[5:45:53] didn't do anything wrong.
[5:45:57] I mean it's like when you guys
[5:45:58] had no quorum five times in a
[5:45:59] row and you blatantly looked at
[5:46:02] me like you, we can continue
[5:46:03] business And now what do you
[5:46:03] do?
[5:46:04] Because the news came and
[5:46:05] covered it All of a sudden
[5:46:09] you're saying that you need a
[5:46:10] quorum But when I called it out
[5:46:11] time and again you blatantly
[5:46:15] had me escorted out by
[5:46:16] the police with the threat of
[5:46:21] arrest and you want us to trust
[5:46:22] that you guys are going to do
[5:46:22] the right thing?
[5:46:27] Yeah, I bet that's why you
[5:46:28] stood up there on that dias and
[5:46:28] it's probably bulletproof under
[5:46:37] their dressing room.
[5:46:43] This is kind of a tough one for
[5:46:43] me.
[5:46:44] I do want to start out with a
[5:46:48] thank you.
[5:46:49] I want to thank Kirby Brady and
[5:46:54] everybody who worked with her
[5:46:55] from the very beginning and
[5:47:00] she's absolutely brilliant and
[5:47:01] I'm looking forward to her
[5:47:02] working with us on other
[5:47:04] projects in the future.
[5:47:11] So give and take I could speak
[5:47:12] a lot about my personal
[5:47:17] experience with this and where
[5:47:18] I was from it I know it from
[5:47:19] the beginning but we don't need
[5:47:19] to go there.
[5:47:22] Most of you know that how we
[5:47:29] handle these things I can't
[5:47:29] speak to really so much I don't
[5:47:34] know but I do know give and
[5:47:35] take And I did listen to all
[5:47:40] the public who spoke on this
[5:47:41] who spoke against it, the fees
[5:47:46] and I honor them when I speak
[5:47:47] now but I also honor everybody
[5:47:52] that's working to make our city
[5:47:52] work.
[5:47:53] And we've said some beautiful
[5:47:53] things today about what we're
[5:47:58] going to do to change our ways.
[5:47:59] So here's a shining example for
[5:48:04] us Let's not judge you too
[5:48:04] harshly.
[5:48:05] Let's just know that we all
[5:48:10] stumble and we're doing
[5:48:11] the best we can.
[5:48:12] >> But well, thank you.
[5:48:15] I'm sorry The five minute time
[5:48:15] we're going to those
[5:48:16] participating remotely starting
[5:48:17] with Leonard If you can please
[5:48:27] unmute thanking them.
[5:48:27] >> Yes, please proceed.
[5:48:28] I have suggested to revenue for
[5:48:32] the budget.
[5:48:33] The company that's shorting
[5:48:33] the recycling is profiting from
[5:48:39] the City of San Diego residents
[5:48:39] .
[5:48:40] All of the items that are
[5:48:40] shorted, bundled and sold are
[5:48:41] for profit so you should
[5:48:44] renegotiate your windfall from
[5:48:45] recycling companies to recoup
[5:48:50] some money to help with
[5:48:51] the deficit.
[5:48:51] Also renegotiate all leases and
[5:48:56] charge all occupied office
[5:49:01] Space to me should be assessed
[5:49:07] attach to help the deficit also
[5:49:08] should be possible Now you have
[5:49:13] to pay $7 million for that cost
[5:49:14] of service study plus
[5:49:20] the attorney fees that when you
[5:49:21] went to court hdr each which
[5:49:25] should pay back the city when
[5:49:33] this is repealed Also elected
[5:49:37] Meg Marino for her service and
[5:49:38] welcome Sarah Ramirez for
[5:49:43] the next Council for District
[5:49:50] eight and thank you very much
[5:49:57] Tony please I'm you Tony
[5:49:58] Academy Before you I will have
[5:49:59] to move on to the next caller
[5:50:07] if you can limit for yourself I
[5:50:08] want you to move on to the next
[5:50:08] caller.
[5:50:09] John, stop if you can please
[5:50:12] unmute.
[5:50:18] Well, I think I think Senator
[5:50:19] said it very well.
[5:50:20] It's a good day and we all
[5:50:24] stumble and it's part of this
[5:50:24] rebirth or recognition of
[5:50:30] the new way and the healing.
[5:50:36] I suggest that council docket
[5:50:37] eight Maria Severson and
[5:50:42] Michael Gary Day a proclamation
[5:50:42] thanking them on behalf of
[5:50:48] the City of San Diego for
[5:50:49] looking out for the citizens
[5:50:49] and finding the truth in this
[5:50:54] matter and working working out
[5:50:55] a way to have a negotiated
[5:51:00] settlement of two matters and
[5:51:01] giving them sharing some of
[5:51:06] the praise that is already
[5:51:12] being taken by MR. Whitman with
[5:51:12] the moving experts MS. Severson
[5:51:18] and MR. Gary they did a great
[5:51:18] job.
[5:51:23] So the second time around for
[5:51:24] MR. Gary and I hope that you
[5:51:28] can do something in that area
[5:51:34] so I want to thank you again
[5:51:40] for taking this item.
[5:51:41] >> Please approve it.
[5:51:41] Thank you.
[5:51:42] Thank you.
[5:51:42] Francine Maxwell if you can
[5:51:45] please and you Thank you
[5:51:46] Francine Maxwell Southeastern
[5:51:52] San Diego resident Thank you so
[5:51:52] much for the presentation and I
[5:51:53] hope that the council remembers
[5:51:57] that districts four eight and
[5:51:58] nine we pay for parking to go
[5:51:58] to support village and
[5:52:02] especially married couples and
[5:52:03] people that are dating.
[5:52:03] So San Diego residents do know
[5:52:04] how to pay for parking for
[5:52:09] places that they want to go
[5:52:09] sometimes even though with
[5:52:10] support.
[5:52:10] Again, I want to thank the city
[5:52:14] council for making sure that
[5:52:15] the project had multiple
[5:52:15] appointments in multiple areas
[5:52:20] that were just so accessible to
[5:52:21] the entire city whether it was
[5:52:21] in the morning they had
[5:52:26] afternoon appointments and they
[5:52:27] had evening.
[5:52:28] That is what community building
[5:52:28] looks like When you have you
[5:52:32] set something up and it's
[5:52:33] accessible to all
[5:52:34] the constituents in all
[5:52:38] the districts at multiple times
[5:52:39] of day.
[5:52:40] So moving forward let's go
[5:52:40] ahead and continue with that
[5:52:44] model And again you guys can
[5:52:45] hold more meetings.
[5:52:45] You don't have to call them
[5:52:46] town halls.
[5:52:51] You can call them huddle
[5:52:51] meetings And let's begin to
[5:52:52] talk about some things
[5:52:57] especially all the million
[5:52:58] dollar settlements that is
[5:52:58] going away through our risk
[5:52:59] management We can start to
[5:53:03] build trust If you if you say
[5:53:04] what you can say to us and we
[5:53:05] don't have to pay for
[5:53:05] everything.
[5:53:09] Again, thank you so much.
[5:53:10] >> Looking forward for this to
[5:53:11] pass.
[5:53:11] Thank you.
[5:53:12] Next is Hector if you can
[5:53:15] believe them.
[5:53:16] You have a five minute timer.
[5:53:17] There's two people in
[5:53:17] the queue.
[5:53:22] Notify everything And thank you
[5:53:22] for your time.
[5:53:27] Hey, I was doing this trash
[5:53:32] thing and when you're doing it,
[5:53:32] there's 2500 people The city
[5:53:33] was picking up trash that they
[5:53:38] weren't charging for and they
[5:53:39] were the city was not obligated
[5:53:40] to pick up their trash but they
[5:53:44] picked it up for decades
[5:53:45] without the city even knowing
[5:53:45] about it until they started
[5:53:50] charging things.
[5:53:50] So how about if we claw back
[5:53:51] about a year of that trash fees
[5:53:57] on those guys that were picking
[5:53:57] up their trash for like two
[5:54:02] decades and we weren't supposed
[5:54:02] to do it.
[5:54:03] So there's a lot of things in
[5:54:04] the city like that they don't
[5:54:08] even know that's going on.
[5:54:09] Like when SeaWorld didn't pay
[5:54:13] rent for two years they should
[5:54:14] have been on that for the first
[5:54:19] week They stopped paying ever.
[5:54:20] There's a lot of things in
[5:54:21] the city that that guys are
[5:54:25] skating with and the city
[5:54:26] thinks everything's rosy.
[5:54:26] That's why we don't have any
[5:54:27] money at the stuff and then
[5:54:32] collect the rent at Mission Bay
[5:54:33] Park 30% of the guys were
[5:54:38] laying the rent How the city
[5:54:39] means I ask the COUNCILMAN A
[5:54:39] question and answer period.
[5:54:43] So when we talk we can ask you
[5:54:44] guys a question and get an
[5:54:44] answer.
[5:54:50] So just talking about oblivion
[5:54:51] and they'll answer a lot of
[5:54:52] things Anyway, thanks.
[5:54:56] >> Thank you Blair Brickman if
[5:54:57] you can please.
[5:54:57] >> And you.
[5:54:57] All right.
[5:54:58] Thank you.
[5:55:01] Blair Beakman thank you for
[5:55:01] this item.
[5:55:02] Thank you that we're working on
[5:55:03] these issues again with
[5:55:07] possibility.
[5:55:07] Thank you.
[5:55:08] I'm interested in the subsidy
[5:55:13] numbers that were presented
[5:55:19] pretty hefty totals that are at
[5:55:20] the management department waste
[5:55:20] management department can do
[5:55:21] themselves I think was 22
[5:55:22] million and then they need an
[5:55:25] additional 10 million from
[5:55:25] the general fund each year at
[5:55:26] this point good luck How that
[5:55:31] can become a more
[5:55:32] self-sustaining number and that
[5:55:33] the department itself can can
[5:55:38] rely on their own subsidy and
[5:55:39] not on the general fund.
[5:55:39] I don't know if that's a kind
[5:55:40] of goal but it can be an
[5:55:43] important goal possibly because
[5:55:44] I don't know sort of efforts
[5:55:45] Good luck in the efforts that
[5:55:49] we can talk about subsidy and
[5:55:50] then we can talk about for
[5:55:51] people who it's more difficult
[5:55:55] to pay for services and
[5:55:56] possibly get help And then for
[5:56:01] people who can pay for services
[5:56:02] they possibly don't need you as
[5:56:02] much.
[5:56:03] And it's really an important
[5:56:07] question that I think we have
[5:56:07] to really relearn.
[5:56:08] I mean I think the other side
[5:56:09] of the argument is interesting
[5:56:13] but people simply are not being
[5:56:14] able to pay for services that
[5:56:15] we figure out systems.
[5:56:19] I think that to help better
[5:56:20] manage that And good luck with
[5:56:20] the future of tech
[5:56:25] accountability for the future
[5:56:26] of our garbage that we ask
[5:56:26] about the check and and
[5:56:27] the okay to ask questions and
[5:56:35] be accountable about the check
[5:56:35] and Garbage on the Beach
[5:56:36] program has concluded and that
[5:56:37] is this will be comment on All
[5:56:37] right thank you city clerk with
[5:56:38] that will go to the architect
[5:56:39] of this part of the settlement
[5:56:44] agreement council member
[5:56:44] Whitman thank you council
[5:56:45] PRESIDENT I thank you to MR.
[5:56:46] Power of the Environmental
[5:56:46] Services Department And again I
[5:56:48] think everybody at the city who
[5:56:49] has worked on this this is
[5:56:49] the other piece of
[5:56:50] the negotiated settlement that
[5:56:55] I presented to the city council
[5:56:55] in closed session last month.
[5:56:56] I want to highlight a change to
[5:57:01] the negotiated trash fees that
[5:57:02] I had out just last month And
[5:57:02] it is good news The new fees
[5:57:06] for the medium and smaller
[5:57:07] sized trash bundles will be
[5:57:07] even less than expected.
[5:57:12] The 65 gallon medium sized
[5:57:13] trash but it will drop by
[5:57:17] another dollar 50 the 35 gallon
[5:57:17] smaller sized trash bag will
[5:57:18] drop by nearly another $4.
[5:57:23] That is because the fees for
[5:57:24] the medium and small trash
[5:57:25] bottles have to be proportional
[5:57:25] to the 95 gallon That large
[5:57:28] trash bags, all that that drop
[5:57:29] the fees for the medium to
[5:57:30] small bottles by quite a bit.
[5:57:31] So if you use either the medium
[5:57:34] or the small trash cans,
[5:57:35] today's news is even better
[5:57:36] than it was last month.
[5:57:36] And with that I will make
[5:57:39] the motion to adopt
[5:57:40] the proposed actions.
[5:57:40] All right.
[5:57:41] Thank you, Council members.
[5:57:42] So we have a motion by Council
[5:57:45] member whitburn.
[5:57:46] This one's a little more
[5:57:46] personal.
[5:57:49] I'll take the opportunity to
[5:57:50] second the motion.
[5:57:51] And again in all seriousness to
[5:57:56] thank Councilmember Weapon you
[5:57:57] did a you were a tougher
[5:57:57] negotiator.
[5:58:03] You got a better deal than I
[5:58:03] brought out the very first
[5:58:04] time.
[5:58:04] So kudos to you and MR. Zucker.
[5:58:08] I think you made a very awesome
[5:58:08] team in negotiating.
[5:58:09] Unlike Baseball Park, this one
[5:58:14] was subject of litigation.
[5:58:15] This is a settlement agreement
[5:58:16] of that litigation.
[5:58:16] And as Mike McGarry said at
[5:58:20] the press conference, we are no
[5:58:21] longer litigating this issue.
[5:58:22] We have a settlement.
[5:58:26] We all then shake hands and
[5:58:26] move forward.
[5:58:27] So thank you Jeremy and Kirby
[5:58:28] and mayor's office and
[5:58:33] everybody in between that a did
[5:58:34] the hard work to bring this
[5:58:34] forward once the measure be
[5:58:39] passed And I know that with a
[5:58:40] lot of work going forward to
[5:58:41] think about something for
[5:58:46] the very first time and then
[5:58:46] what I was thinking about
[5:58:47] the settlement agreement I just
[5:58:52] thought there'd be a press
[5:58:52] release here.
[5:58:53] The new numbers were all done
[5:58:54] but you did the hard work of
[5:58:57] actually digging and actually
[5:58:58] documenting everything so
[5:58:59] everybody knows exactly what is
[5:59:03] happening in delivering on
[5:59:10] the reduced 95 gallon on 28 and
[5:59:11] 29.
[5:59:11] And I appreciate Councilmember
[5:59:13] Lipman highlighting because I
[5:59:13] know that was one of the things
[5:59:14] that I was informed about that
[5:59:17] we have to make sure that
[5:59:18] the 65 and 35 were proposed
[5:59:23] proportionately reduced as well
[5:59:23] so that it wasn't just a
[5:59:24] benefit to the 95 gallon
[5:59:29] customers going forward.
[5:59:29] As we were talking on the last
[5:59:30] item that does come with a
[5:59:36] financial impact in my judgment
[5:59:36] the reason I pursue the first
[5:59:37] one and perhaps the reason
[5:59:42] Councilmember Lipman picked up
[5:59:42] the ball and got the deal done
[5:59:43] was that the alternative this
[5:59:46] with much, much worse.
[5:59:47] And so this was a good place
[5:59:52] for us to land.
[5:59:53] Everybody's talked about
[5:59:53] the deficit that we're trying
[5:59:59] to resolve this year If we
[5:59:59] didn't have Measure b you can
[6:00:00] only imagine how big
[6:00:05] the deficit would have been
[6:00:06] this year.
[6:00:06] So while a lot of people were
[6:00:07] frustrated about the feel of it
[6:00:10] right the implementation I
[6:00:11] think that we have landed at a
[6:00:16] good place in this.
[6:00:17] We're honoring the settlement
[6:00:18] agreement we brought we talked
[6:00:22] to this as soon as we could
[6:00:23] going forward.
[6:00:23] So good work.
[6:00:28] I mean that's a staff has done
[6:00:29] a lot of heroic work in
[6:00:29] bringing this stuff forward
[6:00:34] very greatly appreciate it And
[6:00:35] as I said, the other item this
[6:00:36] is the settlement here How we
[6:00:36] got to where we are is no
[6:00:40] reflection on staff.
[6:00:40] You guys did excellent work.
[6:00:41] I'm very grateful for that.
[6:00:46] So with that I'm happy to
[6:00:46] second the motion And now we
[6:00:47] have a motion by COUNCILMAN
[6:00:48] Whipple and second by myself to
[6:00:51] move the recommendation will go
[6:00:52] to Council Member Campion.
[6:00:53] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[6:00:53] Thank you to Council member
[6:00:54] Whitburn and you Council
[6:00:57] PRESIDENT I will be in support
[6:00:58] of the motion and thank you for
[6:00:59] your direct and accurate words.
[6:01:04] Today's actions help bring
[6:01:05] the city's implementation of
[6:01:05] the trash free more in line
[6:01:06] with what voters believed they
[6:01:07] were approving at the ballot
[6:01:09] box and from the beginning my
[6:01:10] core concern was that the final
[6:01:11] proposal departed from that
[6:01:11] expectation And so these
[6:01:15] changes are an important step
[6:01:16] towards restoring the trust and
[6:01:16] providing relief to San Diego
[6:01:17] who are facing significant
[6:01:18] affordability challenges.
[6:01:21] So we come closer to honoring
[6:01:22] the will of the electorate
[6:01:23] while continuing to provide
[6:01:23] this essential city service in
[6:01:24] a way that's reasonable and
[6:01:27] responsive to the concerns of
[6:01:27] our communities.
[6:01:28] But lastly, one thing that I
[6:01:28] never doubted or questioned
[6:01:29] the expertise and
[6:01:33] professionalism of our team
[6:01:34] Jeremy and Kirby, thank you and
[6:01:34] your team and sd I've seen you
[6:01:40] in public answering questions.
[6:01:40] You're excellent at your job.
[6:01:41] Thank you.
[6:01:41] Thank you.
[6:01:42] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[6:01:42] Thank you, Councilmember Camp.
[6:01:43] Yeah.
[6:01:45] We'll go next to Councilmember
[6:01:45] Hill over there.
[6:01:46] >> All right.
[6:01:47] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[6:01:51] Thank you Whitburn and council
[6:01:51] PRESIDENT For your work on
[6:01:52] this.
[6:01:52] Jeremy, thank you to you and
[6:01:57] the team for all the work to
[6:01:57] get to this point.
[6:02:03] Jordan as well I, I appreciate
[6:02:08] the mention of the wrestling
[6:02:09] We're going to have to do with
[6:02:09] the services that are provided
[6:02:10] and the cost that those come to
[6:02:14] the city and with the impacts
[6:02:15] of not providing those services
[6:02:16] not just from an environmental
[6:02:16] perspective which there are
[6:02:20] significant impacts there but
[6:02:20] from a cost perspective on a
[6:02:26] long term basis as well.
[6:02:26] For example the city receives
[6:02:32] tipping fees and Miramar and if
[6:02:32] we have to close Miramar we
[6:02:33] would no longer receive those
[6:02:38] tipping fees, correct?
[6:02:38] That's correct.
[6:02:44] And what what are those tipping
[6:02:50] fees amount to to pay for?
[6:02:51] >> I believe it's $84 a ton.
[6:02:52] Speaking for member I don't
[6:02:52] have it in front of me.
[6:02:56] I mean like big picture it not
[6:02:57] only is required to run
[6:03:03] the facility itself right where
[6:03:03] that what from like an annual
[6:03:04] basis how much does that amount
[6:03:06] to that $84 per ton We'll have
[6:03:09] we'll get back to you Jordan
[6:03:16] give a ballpark one second
[6:03:16] while I'm looking at up I would
[6:03:22] actually say it's twofold So
[6:03:22] it's the fees to do is the fees
[6:03:28] to run the Miramar landfill
[6:03:28] which are substantial.
[6:03:29] Those fees are also
[6:03:33] substantially paid by trash
[6:03:34] collect by the individuals who
[6:03:35] are paying into trash
[6:03:35] collection.
[6:03:36] If you no longer have Miramar,
[6:03:40] you no longer have some control
[6:03:40] over those tipping fees If you
[6:03:41] have to go to other landfills,
[6:03:45] the cost to the city to dispose
[6:03:46] of the trash collected would
[6:03:47] also go up and would require
[6:03:52] either higher fees on residents
[6:03:52] or larger general fund subsidy.
[6:03:53] That was the second part of
[6:03:53] the point.
[6:03:54] Okay.
[6:03:57] Yes.
[6:03:58] But yeah, the point being is
[6:04:03] that keeping Miramar open is
[6:04:04] not again just a matter of good
[6:04:05] faith, good environmental
[6:04:10] stewardship and living up to
[6:04:11] the climate control that we
[6:04:11] set.
[6:04:12] There's enormous, enormous
[6:04:17] financial cost associated with
[6:04:17] that as well.
[6:04:18] And so Council PRESIDENT It's a
[6:04:18] conversation we're having
[6:04:19] environmentally I think it's
[6:04:22] something that the full council
[6:04:22] really is going to need to
[6:04:23] wrestle with because that
[6:04:28] horizon that cliff I should say
[6:04:29] is not that far out And and
[6:04:33] anything that we are not
[6:04:34] diverting from the landfill
[6:04:35] speeds up the closure of
[6:04:39] the landfill and the closure of
[6:04:40] landfill comes again with
[6:04:40] significant financial costs.
[6:04:45] And so I fully understand why
[6:04:45] we're here today.
[6:04:46] I think it's good that folks
[6:04:52] will be paying less And just
[6:04:52] for all of us to know there's
[6:04:53] there's no easy way out of this
[6:04:58] because if the if what we're
[6:04:58] hoping is that we simply will
[6:04:59] reduce services to avoid some
[6:05:03] of the financial impacts in
[6:05:04] the next budget year there will
[6:05:10] be a freight train heading out
[6:05:11] as a fiscal freight train
[6:05:15] coming at us 2 or 3 years down
[6:05:15] the road from from punting on
[6:05:16] that.
[6:05:20] So as with everything as it
[6:05:21] relates to the city's budget,
[6:05:21] there's no easy outs.
[6:05:22] We're going to need to be
[6:05:22] better resourced.
[6:05:26] I think the goal from
[6:05:27] the beginning was for there to
[6:05:31] be a subsidy and the hope that
[6:05:32] additional revenue from 2024
[6:05:33] whatever gap there was between
[6:05:38] the projected amount and what
[6:05:39] the actual cost was,
[6:05:39] the general fund could absorb
[6:05:45] that and we ended up with no no
[6:05:46] slot in line And so so here we
[6:05:47] are again.
[6:05:50] I appreciate all the work that
[6:05:50] went into this.
[6:05:51] I just want to be sure we all
[6:05:55] know whether it's reducing
[6:05:55] the amount of recycling that
[6:05:56] we're collecting or not doing
[6:06:01] bulky item pickup that will
[6:06:02] have a fiscal impact and that
[6:06:08] fiscal impact will come much
[6:06:09] sooner than any of us want it
[6:06:10] to come.
[6:06:10] >> I think you got
[6:06:11] the resident.
[6:06:11] All right.
[6:06:14] Thank you, Councilmember Rivera
[6:06:15] .
[6:06:16] We'll go next to Councilmember
[6:06:16] Wolpert.
[6:06:17] Thank you And I thank you
[6:06:17] Council for what we're in for
[6:06:20] your work on everything.
[6:06:20] I appreciate you very much.
[6:06:21] You know, I had voted against
[6:06:25] the trash fee to begin with for
[6:06:25] similar reasons.
[6:06:26] I voted against water rate
[6:06:26] increases.
[6:06:27] We don't need to increase water
[6:06:27] rates.
[6:06:31] The water department can do
[6:06:32] better and we're seeing them do
[6:06:32] better.
[6:06:33] They're finally selling excess
[6:06:33] water rights.
[6:06:36] We don't need two other things
[6:06:36] to do.
[6:06:37] I also don't think that we
[6:06:38] needed to buy new trash cans
[6:06:42] for everybody.
[6:06:43] We could have used that money
[6:06:43] instead to provide weekly
[6:06:44] recycling so we don't need to
[6:06:44] redo the trash.
[6:06:47] We we can do better And so
[6:06:48] the cost of living is already
[6:06:49] high enough in San Diego that
[6:06:49] we could always have done
[6:06:53] better.
[6:06:54] So I wish we didn't have to
[6:06:55] deal with this at all But we
[6:06:55] are where we are and I will
[6:06:59] support the settlement today
[6:07:00] because it helps get us closer
[6:07:00] to where we should have been
[6:07:01] the whole time.
[6:07:01] So thank you.
[6:07:02] All right.
[6:07:05] Thank you Councilmember John
[6:07:06] Wolpert.
[6:07:06] We'll go next to Council foster
[6:07:07] Oh yes.
[6:07:11] Thank you Council PRESIDENT And
[6:07:11] thank you for the presentation.
[6:07:17] I too did not support the trash
[6:07:23] fees or the water rate increase
[6:07:23] as well.
[6:07:24] But I do have a question just
[6:07:30] to in regards to my colleague
[6:07:30] Councilmember Eli Rivera and
[6:07:31] the tipping passes I would
[6:07:35] assume as we are working
[6:07:36] through this, one of the things
[6:07:39] that we do and we do it quite
[6:07:40] often in District four what we
[6:07:41] call dumpster days where we
[6:07:45] have tipping passes.
[6:07:46] I'm assuming those all are in
[6:07:47] this conversation as well in
[6:07:51] regards to the ability to
[6:07:52] maintain that type of service
[6:07:58] that we do in the district that
[6:07:59] is also at risk as well as we
[6:08:03] talk about the landfill and
[6:08:04] able to manage our fees
[6:08:04] accordingly.
[6:08:04] Correct?
[6:08:09] I think if the current
[6:08:10] councilmember we're still
[6:08:14] planning on approximately 99
[6:08:14] events per year looking at
[6:08:18] around nine of the larger
[6:08:19] events per district and two of
[6:08:19] that 39 of the smaller per
[6:08:20] district and two of the bigger
[6:08:21] four district.
[6:08:24] So as of now there's no direct
[6:08:24] impact.
[6:08:25] But to your point the larger
[6:08:25] discussions about city
[6:08:30] priorities and a finite budget
[6:08:31] than that is that is a true
[6:08:31] statement.
[6:08:31] Okay.
[6:08:36] And those events that you were
[6:08:36] referring to are those
[6:08:42] the curbside environmental
[6:08:42] services?
[6:08:43] Those are curbside but we also
[6:08:44] do our own where we can go out
[6:08:48] and we MAY have as many as ten
[6:08:49] bins or whatever the case MAY
[6:08:55] be where we provide that to our
[6:08:55] various neighborhoods.
[6:08:55] Right.
[6:09:00] We do want a district for every
[6:09:01] corner that we sponsor but we
[6:09:02] also help our our neighbor, our
[6:09:06] neighborhoods in regards to our
[6:09:07] town councils and certain
[6:09:07] things.
[6:09:08] What I'm hearing is those two
[6:09:13] will be at risk potentially as
[6:09:13] we continue as you talk about
[6:09:14] the larger conversation where
[6:09:18] that type of amenity or service
[6:09:19] will go away as well.
[6:09:19] >> Correct.
[6:09:20] And to the extent that those
[6:09:25] leverage free tipping passes at
[6:09:26] the landfill when the landfills
[6:09:26] ultimate expiration date
[6:09:27] approaches, then that
[6:09:32] opportunity ceases.
[6:09:32] Okay.
[6:09:32] Thank you for that.
[6:09:33] All right.
[6:09:33] Thank you.
[6:09:34] Councilmember Foster.
[6:09:38] I not see anybody else in
[6:09:38] the lights.
[6:09:39] We do have a motion by Council
[6:09:39] whipper and the second by
[6:09:42] myself to move the staff
[6:09:43] recommendation Clerk please
[6:09:44] call the roll.
[6:09:44] >> I'm sorry The voting system.
[6:09:55] Please cast your vote That
[6:09:55] passes nine unanimously 9 to 0.
[6:09:56] Thank you Also PRESIDENT All
[6:09:56] right.
[6:10:00] Thank you.
[6:10:01] >> All right.
[6:10:02] Five 515 We got a lot of big
[6:10:06] business that we've already
[6:10:07] gotten done but stay tuned.
[6:10:07] We've got three more items to
[6:10:08] go.
[6:10:12] So clerk please introduce item
[6:10:13] 631.
[6:10:13] >> Item 631 is
[6:10:14] the authorization for City of
[6:10:17] San Diego Fiscal year 2027 tax
[6:10:18] and revenue Anticipation And if
[6:10:18] you'd like to speak on this
[6:10:23] item please be sure to submit
[6:10:24] your speakers up to the front
[6:10:25] of the room into the clear box
[6:10:26] or if you are participating
[6:10:26] remotely now's the time to
[6:10:29] raise your hand by pressing
[6:10:30] Star nine or the raise your
[6:10:30] hand icon.
[6:10:31] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[6:10:31] right.
[6:10:35] Thank you.
[6:10:36] I see staff you're settling in.
[6:10:37] Please introduce yourselves for
[6:10:37] the record and let us know how
[6:10:38] much time you need for
[6:10:44] the presentation.
[6:10:44] Good afternoon.
[6:10:45] Good afternoon.
[6:10:50] Council PRESIDENT Council
[6:10:51] members My name is Richard
[6:10:51] Eyre, Financial Operations
[6:10:52] Manager for the Debt Management
[6:10:57] Division Department of Finance
[6:10:58] with me today as Michael as a
[6:10:58] car financing coordinator.
[6:11:01] We'll need approximately ten
[6:11:02] minutes when you're ready.
[6:11:02] Today we were requesting
[6:11:07] authorization for a resolution
[6:11:08] to execute the city's fiscal
[6:11:09] year 2027 Tax and revenue
[6:11:13] anticipation notes or trends
[6:11:14] and related documents in an
[6:11:15] amount not to exceed 340
[6:11:15] million to fund the projected
[6:11:21] seasonal cash flow deficit of
[6:11:21] the general fund during fiscal
[6:11:22] year 2027.
[6:11:26] Both the California Governor
[6:11:26] Government Code and City
[6:11:27] Charter authorize short term
[6:11:28] borrowings to fund operations
[6:11:32] in anticipation of
[6:11:33] the collection of taxes and
[6:11:34] revenues within the same fiscal
[6:11:34] year.
[6:11:35] The City Charter also limits
[6:11:38] the amount of borrowing in a
[6:11:39] fiscal year to no more than 25%
[6:11:44] of budgeted appropriations.
[6:11:45] Trends are a fairly common cash
[6:11:45] management financing tool used
[6:11:46] by state and local governments
[6:11:50] to bridge cash flow Gaps
[6:11:51] between large expenditures
[6:11:52] occurred early in the fiscal
[6:11:52] year and the receipt of taxes
[6:11:56] and other revenues later in
[6:11:57] the year.
[6:11:57] The city has utilized trends in
[6:11:58] prior years most recently in
[6:12:03] fiscal year 2013.
[6:12:08] So why are trends needed now?
[6:12:08] Since 2013 the city has
[6:12:09] generally maintained sufficient
[6:12:10] cash fund balances within funds
[6:12:14] considered available to
[6:12:15] the General fund to manage cash
[6:12:16] flow timing differences without
[6:12:20] the need for external borrowing
[6:12:20] .
[6:12:21] In recent years, however,
[6:12:21] several factors have combined
[6:12:22] to warrant the use of the notes
[6:12:25] for the coming fiscal year.
[6:12:26] Covid relief funds that were
[6:12:27] temporarily used to support
[6:12:31] operations have been exhausted
[6:12:31] .
[6:12:32] Also due to budgetary pressures
[6:12:33] over recent years, general fund
[6:12:34] access equity has been drawn
[6:12:38] down and the city has not made
[6:12:39] contributions to its general
[6:12:39] fund reserves.
[6:12:40] Additionally, the Department of
[6:12:44] Finance has completed analysis
[6:12:45] of certain operational
[6:12:45] operating funds also referred
[6:12:50] to as policy funds to reassess
[6:12:51] their availability for general
[6:12:51] fund cash flow purposes.
[6:12:56] As a result of these factors
[6:12:56] the Department of Finance
[6:12:57] projects monthly cash flow
[6:13:00] shortfalls during the first
[6:13:01] half of fiscal year 2027 that
[6:13:01] can be bridged by the notes
[6:13:06] excuse me.
[6:13:07] The current financing plan
[6:13:07] anticipates the trains will be
[6:13:11] issued on JULY 1st, 2026,
[6:13:12] the same date as the pension
[6:13:13] contribution payment and repaid
[6:13:17] at the end of the fiscal year
[6:13:18] on JUNE 30th.
[6:13:19] The exact size of borrowing
[6:13:19] will be determined by
[6:13:23] the maximum projected general
[6:13:24] fund cash flow deficit during
[6:13:25] the fiscal year and repayments
[6:13:29] of the notes is secured by
[6:13:29] pledged fiscal year 2027
[6:13:30] Unrestricted revenues which
[6:13:35] include taxes other revenues,
[6:13:36] cash receipts and other general
[6:13:39] fund monies attributable to
[6:13:40] fiscal year 2027 as part of
[6:13:41] the financing structure and for
[6:13:41] the benefit of investors.
[6:13:45] A portion of the notes debt
[6:13:46] service will be periodically
[6:13:47] set aside in a separately held
[6:13:47] repayment fund.
[6:13:52] These set asides generally
[6:13:52] occur when the receipt of major
[6:13:57] property tax revenues or after
[6:13:57] the receipt of major property
[6:13:58] tax revenues with set aside
[6:13:59] installments currently expected
[6:14:03] to begin in JANUARY.
[6:14:04] I'll turn it over to Mike to
[6:14:09] provide a few more details.
[6:14:09] >> Thanks Mitch.
[6:14:10] Moving into the popular key
[6:14:11] financing elements, the issue
[6:14:11] of the notes will be the city
[6:14:14] of San Diego.
[6:14:15] The financing is expected to
[6:14:16] consist of a single series of
[6:14:16] short term notes.
[6:14:20] The repayment source is pledged
[6:14:21] to fiscal year 27 unrestricted
[6:14:22] revenues and the notes are
[6:14:23] expected to be issued on a tax
[6:14:27] exempt basis with a final
[6:14:28] maturity of JUNE 30th 2027.
[6:14:28] Based on current market
[6:14:33] conditions, staff is targeting
[6:14:34] a public offering through a
[6:14:34] competitive sale process which
[6:14:35] allows the market to bid on
[6:14:39] the notes and provides the city
[6:14:40] with an opportunity to obtain
[6:14:40] the lowest borrowing cost.
[6:14:41] The financing documents before
[6:14:46] council today in addition to
[6:14:47] the financing resolution
[6:14:47] include forms of
[6:14:48] the accompanying documents.
[6:14:48] The preliminary official
[6:14:52] statement, the continuing
[6:14:53] disclosure certificate paying
[6:14:53] agent agreement, notice of sale
[6:14:58] and if necessary a note
[6:14:59] purchase agreement Should
[6:15:00] market conditions warrant a
[6:15:00] negotiated sale.
[6:15:04] The ratings on the grants have
[6:15:04] been received since docketing
[6:15:05] in our sp one plus and f one
[6:15:06] plus by s&p and Fitch
[6:15:10] respectively.
[6:15:11] These are the highest short
[6:15:12] term ratings available and
[6:15:12] Fitch has affirmed the city's
[6:15:19] long term issuer rating plus
[6:15:25] based on projected cash flow
[6:15:25] deficit.
[6:15:26] The estimated size of the notes
[6:15:26] will be approximately 332
[6:15:27] million.
[6:15:30] The estimated effective
[6:15:31] interest rate based on recent
[6:15:32] market conditions is estimated
[6:15:35] at 2.5% and the not to exceed
[6:15:36] interest rate stated in
[6:15:36] the resolution is 5%.
[6:15:41] Current estimates projected net
[6:15:42] interest cost of approximately
[6:15:42] 8.5 million.
[6:15:43] But it's important to note that
[6:15:47] staff does anticipate a
[6:15:48] significant portion of those
[6:15:49] costs to be offset by
[6:15:49] investment earnings generated
[6:15:53] on the repayment front deposits
[6:15:54] and general fund cash balances.
[6:15:54] These estimates again are
[6:15:55] preliminary and are based on
[6:15:59] fiscal year 27 draft budget
[6:16:00] including the MAY revise and
[6:16:04] current cash flow projections.
[6:16:05] >> The general fund is
[6:16:09] projected to begin fiscal year
[6:16:09] 27 with approximately 360.8
[6:16:10] million in cash including
[6:16:16] certain operating funds.
[6:16:17] On JULY 1st the General fund is
[6:16:18] scheduled to make its annual
[6:16:18] atc payments just service
[6:16:22] totaling approximately 396.1
[6:16:22] million.
[6:16:23] Without the trains borrowing
[6:16:23] monthly general fund cash
[6:16:28] balances are projected to
[6:16:29] remain negative through
[6:16:29] DECEMBER with a maximum
[6:16:30] projected deficit of
[6:16:33] approximately 360 million
[6:16:33] occurring in NOVEMBER based on
[6:16:34] the fiscal year 27 draft
[6:16:34] budget.
[6:16:39] Total projected general fund
[6:16:40] receipts will be approximately
[6:16:40] 2.2 billion and the estimated
[6:16:43] advance borrowing of
[6:16:44] approximately 332 million
[6:16:45] represents roughly 15% of those
[6:16:52] projected general fund receipts
[6:16:52] .
[6:16:53] >> As previously discussed,
[6:16:54] the city is required to
[6:16:54] periodically deposit pledge
[6:16:58] revenues into repayment fund
[6:16:59] prior to maturity of the notes.
[6:16:59] The projected repayment
[6:17:05] schedule includes deposits of
[6:17:06] approximately 104 million in
[6:17:09] JANUARY 139 million in APRIL
[6:17:10] and 24 million in MAY.
[6:17:11] These deposits are structured
[6:17:15] to accumulate sufficient funds
[6:17:15] to repay both principal and
[6:17:16] interest at maturity on JUNE
[6:17:19] 30th of 2027.
[6:17:20] The table on the slide also
[6:17:21] demonstrates strong projected
[6:17:25] coverage levels meaning pledge
[6:17:26] revenues over debt service
[6:17:27] throughout the repayment period
[6:17:30] with overall coverage of 1.75
[6:17:30] times.
[6:17:31] Based on current projections,
[6:17:32] staff anticipates sufficient
[6:17:35] pledge revenues will be
[6:17:36] available to meet all repayment
[6:17:42] bond requirements.
[6:17:42] >> The financing team for
[6:17:43] the transaction includes both
[6:17:44] city staff and external
[6:17:48] financing professionals.
[6:17:49] Camden Public Finance is
[6:17:49] serving as our municipal
[6:17:50] divisor straddling uga Carlson
[6:17:53] and Roth is serving as note and
[6:17:54] disclosure Council us Bank
[6:17:55] Trust company will serve as b
[6:17:59] paying agent and in addition
[6:18:00] the financing team includes
[6:18:00] staff from the Department of
[6:18:01] Finance, the city's attorney's
[6:18:02] office and the city Treasurer's
[6:18:08] office.
[6:18:09] >> The next two slides provide
[6:18:10] a brief summary of the related
[6:18:14] financing documents to be
[6:18:15] approved with this item.
[6:18:16] The preliminary official
[6:18:16] statement or policy is
[6:18:17] the primary disclosure document
[6:18:20] provided to potential
[6:18:20] investors.
[6:18:21] Its purpose is to provide
[6:18:22] information that a reasonable
[6:18:22] investor would consider
[6:18:26] material in making an informed
[6:18:26] investment decision.
[6:18:27] The document includes
[6:18:28] information regarding repayment
[6:18:32] sources for the notes.
[6:18:33] Cash Flow Projections.
[6:18:34] City Financial Information.
[6:18:34] Demographic and Economic
[6:18:38] Information.
[6:18:39] Risk Factors and Credit
[6:18:39] ratings.
[6:18:40] The policy has been prepared to
[6:18:44] the city's disclosure practices
[6:18:44] working group process and will
[6:18:45] continue to be updated as
[6:18:46] necessary prior to the sale of
[6:18:49] the notes.
[6:18:50] >> In addition to the polls,
[6:18:55] council approval today includes
[6:18:56] several related financing
[6:18:56] documents.
[6:18:57] These include the accompanying
[6:18:57] document to the resolution.
[6:19:01] The continuing disclosure
[6:19:02] certificate, the paying agent
[6:19:03] agreement and the notice of
[6:19:07] sale against should market
[6:19:07] conditions warrant a negotiated
[6:19:08] sale rather than a competitive
[6:19:08] sale.
[6:19:10] Approval would also extend to a
[6:19:16] note purchase agreement.
[6:19:17] >> Finally, following Council
[6:19:18] today, staff anticipates
[6:19:23] releasing the preliminary
[6:19:23] official statement the day
[6:19:24] after budget adoption on JUNE
[6:19:24] 10th.
[6:19:25] The Tran Sale is currently
[6:19:29] scheduled for JUNE 16th and
[6:19:29] the financing is expected to
[6:19:30] close on JULY 1st, 2026 at
[6:19:34] which time proceeds will be
[6:19:35] delivered and used to support
[6:19:36] fiscal year 27 general fund
[6:19:36] cash flow needs including
[6:19:40] the annual pension payments.
[6:19:41] This concludes our
[6:19:41] presentation.
[6:19:42] We would be happy to answer any
[6:19:43] questions from the Council.
[6:19:47] Thank you.
[6:19:47] >> All right.
[6:19:48] Thank you for the presentation.
[6:19:52] The fda doesn't have okay with
[6:19:52] that.
[6:19:53] >> Clark, please proceed with
[6:19:53] public comment.
[6:19:54] Thank you.
[6:19:54] Council PRESIDENT Max Schmidt
[6:19:57] If you can please come forward
[6:19:58] after that will be allegedly
[6:20:03] addressed.
[6:20:09] Um, I just want to say thank
[6:20:10] you for the opportunity to
[6:20:10] speak today.
[6:20:14] I wish that on my First
[6:20:15] Amendment was more protected in
[6:20:16] the United States than it is on
[6:20:21] Also I just wanted to say that
[6:20:21] item 631 is a big deal because
[6:20:26] it's a deal of transparency.
[6:20:27] Um, and we need more
[6:20:28] transparency also.
[6:20:31] The reason being more
[6:20:32] transparency because it
[6:20:33] definitely cost money to have
[6:20:36] um people stopped me nonstop
[6:20:37] and constantly use voices to
[6:20:37] harass me nonstop throughout
[6:20:42] the day.
[6:20:43] And I just wanted to say when I
[6:20:43] was held in the psych ward for
[6:20:44] simply posting about Freemasons
[6:20:48] reincarnate and the vast
[6:20:49] majority of people on the West
[6:20:49] Coast reincarnating and
[6:20:54] possessed by the devil and also
[6:20:54] not driving cars and
[6:20:55] teleporting They called me
[6:20:55] crazy.
[6:20:56] They also tried to reeducate
[6:20:56] me.
[6:21:00] They said that I was forced to
[6:21:01] say that covid was not a
[6:21:01] bioweapon and that the 2020
[6:21:05] election was not stolen and
[6:21:06] that Freemasons can't teleport
[6:21:07] and that that is a delusion and
[6:21:08] that it was literally like a
[6:21:11] communist reeducation camp in
[6:21:12] the United States.
[6:21:13] And I just wanted to say that
[6:21:13] the city council as I sit here
[6:21:17] and wait to speak, they're
[6:21:18] going to try to probably call
[6:21:18] me crazy for this but I'm
[6:21:22] Freemasons do something really
[6:21:23] use something called neuro
[6:21:23] linguistic programing to make
[6:21:24] your.
[6:21:24] Have you ever been like super
[6:21:28] Extremely scared Like maybe you
[6:21:29] just got hit by a car or
[6:21:32] something and you're on four
[6:21:33] guys on your tingle like
[6:21:33] you're so scared Like something
[6:21:38] like super super scary happens
[6:21:39] Don't make your tingle on
[6:21:43] Tingle the city council as I
[6:21:44] sit and wait to speak they're
[6:21:44] using neuro linguistic
[6:21:49] programing to threaten me and
[6:21:50] make my tingle And then they
[6:21:50] talk trash about it through
[6:21:54] neuro linguistic programing in
[6:21:54] the United States of America
[6:21:55] Down with the occult.
[6:21:57] >> I'm not crazy.
[6:22:08] >> Allegedly ordering making
[6:22:08] people's tingle.
[6:22:14] It's unfortunate.
[6:22:14] >> Yeah.
[6:22:15] Talk about racketeering.
[6:22:19] I mean it's like we can trust
[6:22:20] that you guys are, you know,
[6:22:20] going to go further into debt
[6:22:24] and then get us out of debt and
[6:22:25] we're never going to be in debt
[6:22:26] again as long as we can borrow
[6:22:26] this money and you guys are
[6:22:29] going to make sure that you're
[6:22:30] really spending our money
[6:22:30] wisely.
[6:22:35] >> It's crazy because it's like
[6:22:36] I mean I bet a bunch of people
[6:22:37] that you take their money from
[6:22:41] which they had this kind of
[6:22:42] problem $340 million like match
[6:22:47] and it was that kind of money I
[6:22:47] mean they only have 340 bucks
[6:22:50] And if they do, you guys will
[6:22:51] take 339 a bit and promise to,
[6:22:51] you know, make their life
[6:22:52] better.
[6:22:56] But you know, just as long as
[6:22:57] they go digging through
[6:22:58] the trash for food, you know,
[6:23:01] and it's like with what you
[6:23:01] guys just did with the other
[6:23:02] things like who's to say that
[6:23:03] you're not going to continue to
[6:23:07] engage in more fraud like that
[6:23:08] and charges fees that you
[6:23:08] shouldn't then have to go back
[6:23:12] and retract it.
[6:23:12] But yeah, it's just it's very
[6:23:13] sad to see that It's like we're
[6:23:16] always having to go borrow
[6:23:17] money even though you guys have
[6:23:18] like billions at your disposal.
[6:23:19] I'm just wondering like again
[6:23:23] how much money is enough that
[6:23:23] you guys won't, you know,
[6:23:30] engage in this kind of stuff?
[6:23:31] Is there any amount you know
[6:23:32] there's as long as whatever
[6:23:36] people have right Do I don't
[6:23:37] know if I have any money in my
[6:23:37] pocket?
[6:23:38] Probably not because nobody
[6:23:38] does.
[6:23:43] Yeah.
[6:23:43] So the five minute time we're
[6:23:45] going to those participating
[6:23:46] remotely starting with Tony if
[6:23:52] you can please unmute Tony you
[6:23:56] seem to be having some
[6:23:57] technical difficulties.
[6:23:57] You're not admitting there
[6:24:06] should be a pop up.
[6:24:07] I will have to move on if you
[6:24:12] can email Hector if you can
[6:24:17] please unmute but thanks for
[6:24:18] taking my call.
[6:24:22] Hey could you guys offer Max
[6:24:23] the job like sweeping up
[6:24:23] the trolley station or
[6:24:24] something or maybe sweeping
[6:24:28] the boardwalk, maybe give Max a
[6:24:29] job, kind of do something good
[6:24:32] but yeah, I was watching to
[6:24:33] the pension board and
[6:24:37] the pension board last month
[6:24:38] bragging their investments was
[6:24:39] enough revenue to pay all their
[6:24:43] obligations for the last year.
[6:24:44] So they're doing really good on
[6:24:48] their investing and have made
[6:24:49] enough money to pay their
[6:24:49] obligations.
[6:24:50] So how about if we take a
[6:24:54] vacation from the pension
[6:24:57] payment for like 6 or 6 months
[6:25:02] vacation for making the payment
[6:25:03] because they've got the money
[6:25:03] in the trust fund and they're
[6:25:04] making money to pay
[6:25:07] the obligations So we could
[6:25:08] take that $700 million that
[6:25:09] we're not going to have to pay
[6:25:13] for the next six months and
[6:25:13] then fill in all the blanks,
[6:25:17] all sorts of places we could
[6:25:18] spend it and they'd still be
[6:25:18] okay.
[6:25:22] They'd have less money in
[6:25:23] the trust fund but they got a
[6:25:24] lot of money in the trust fund
[6:25:25] already and they're investing
[6:25:27] it and they're paying their
[6:25:28] obligations which is that's
[6:25:28] the basic problem.
[6:25:33] The city is the pension
[6:25:33] obligation.
[6:25:33] It's killing us.
[6:25:34] It's going to be killing us
[6:25:38] every year for the next 30
[6:25:38] years.
[6:25:39] I don't think it's ever going
[6:25:39] away.
[6:25:43] People are living longer.
[6:25:44] The pensions are going up.
[6:25:44] Pensions are increasing.
[6:25:48] People living longer.
[6:25:49] >> That's the problem we have
[6:25:49] with the city.
[6:25:50] Man Right there your time
[6:25:53] concluded Blair if you can
[6:25:58] please on mute.
[6:25:58] Blair Beekman Thanks for this
[6:26:02] item To offer some of the words
[6:26:03] of Tony from earlier today He
[6:26:04] always has really interesting
[6:26:04] things to say.
[6:26:08] He thanked Councilperson
[6:26:09] Campbell and her position on on
[6:26:14] on taxing homes and revenue
[6:26:18] raises to find revenue sources
[6:26:19] that Councilperson Campbell has
[6:26:19] a pretty wise opinion on
[6:26:23] the matter and is certainly in
[6:26:24] how to have the debate.
[6:26:28] Councilperson Campbell has on
[6:26:29] the future of how to address
[6:26:33] revenue in our future And she
[6:26:34] has a good argument I think and
[6:26:38] I hope I can be respected and I
[6:26:38] hope that.
[6:26:43] I wanted to quickly mention
[6:26:44] from my previous item that was
[6:26:44] cut off today that with
[6:26:45] the fire department issues
[6:26:49] people are leaving in San Diego
[6:26:50] in massive numbers once they
[6:26:54] get the training So at least
[6:26:55] we're doing the training right
[6:26:55] that people want to be here for
[6:26:58] some reason You've been working
[6:26:59] really good programs with
[6:27:00] the fire department and
[6:27:00] community the past year
[6:27:05] developing good prevention
[6:27:05] practices and that's a good
[6:27:06] learning process.
[6:27:10] Can that be somehow applied to
[6:27:10] your future?
[6:27:11] Questions of how to address
[6:27:12] your fire department issues and
[6:27:15] retention.
[6:27:16] I thought I would mention that
[6:27:17] is possibly tax and revenue
[6:27:20] ideas and yeah so good luck
[6:27:20] with that.
[6:27:25] All sides can really question
[6:27:25] how do we address revenue for
[6:27:26] the future?
[6:27:26] >> San Diego Thank you.
[6:27:27] Thank you.
[6:27:29] Next is Leonard If you can
[6:27:34] please unmute.
[6:27:38] >> Hi yeah I'm also for taxing
[6:27:43] the on occupied office space
[6:27:44] should be assessed a tax
[6:27:48] the same way to the proposition
[6:27:53] that was just voted down on
[6:27:58] charging the unoccupied homes
[6:27:59] should go the same for office
[6:28:03] spaces that are unoccupied.
[6:28:04] There's a lot of businesses
[6:28:07] that we should be promoting San
[6:28:08] Diego to come bring businesses
[6:28:12] to fill those office spaces And
[6:28:17] I think that you'll be able to
[6:28:18] do that And I know that many
[6:28:22] industries have left San Diego
[6:28:22] fishing, manufacturing and
[6:28:23] there's no more people to
[6:28:27] support the sales tax anymore.
[6:28:31] So now you're depending on all
[6:28:32] of us constituents as piggy
[6:28:37] banks and you need to be better
[6:28:37] stewards of our of our money
[6:28:41] And I think that it would be
[6:28:45] better spent toward the Park
[6:28:46] and rec and any other facility
[6:28:51] or infrastructure that you know
[6:28:55] grass the buildings that need
[6:28:56] repair.
[6:29:00] But thank you for your time.
[6:29:01] >> Thank you very much.
[6:29:01] Thank you.
[6:29:02] That does conclude public
[6:29:02] comment on this item.
[6:29:04] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
[6:29:05] right.
[6:29:05] Thank you.
[6:29:06] City clerk will now take
[6:29:06] councilmember questions and
[6:29:09] comments and entertain a motion
[6:29:10] and I don't see anybody willing
[6:29:11] to kick this off so I'll kick
[6:29:11] it off.
[6:29:15] Thank you for the presentation.
[6:29:16] Thank you for reintroducing an
[6:29:16] idea that the city has used
[6:29:20] successfully is allowed under
[6:29:21] the state and the city charter.
[6:29:24] So I'll move the recommendation
[6:29:24] to kick things off.
[6:29:25] Thank you for the good work.
[6:29:26] We'll go next to Council
[6:29:30] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Thank
[6:29:31] House PRESIDENT I'll second
[6:29:34] the motion the motion by myself
[6:29:35] on the second by Council
[6:29:36] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee to move
[6:29:39] the recommendation we'll go
[6:29:40] next to Council Member Campion
[6:29:40] Thank you.
[6:29:41] Council PRESIDENT Just just
[6:29:43] briefly this type of funding
[6:29:48] mechanism is a properly thought
[6:29:48] of of having an interest
[6:29:52] percentage or is it more of a a
[6:29:53] premium to have access to this
[6:29:57] line of funding Because when I
[6:29:58] see the original issue premium
[6:30:01] but then I see estimated
[6:30:02] interest costs it's not
[6:30:03] entirely clear to me is it If
[6:30:07] we are we going to take out
[6:30:08] essentially $332 million for
[6:30:08] cashflow purposes or are we
[6:30:12] going to I see the schedule
[6:30:12] that shows on a quarterly basis
[6:30:13] how we plan to roll this out
[6:30:17] But it's not entirely clear to
[6:30:17] me what the right way of
[6:30:18] describing this to my
[6:30:22] constituents is.
[6:30:23] Is it strictly a percentage
[6:30:23] figure or is it a premium
[6:30:24] amount?
[6:30:26] It is And there is a fixed
[6:30:27] interest rate component there.
[6:30:31] There are just short term notes
[6:30:32] that we do within 12 months
[6:30:33] they will when you see that
[6:30:36] original original issue
[6:30:36] premium, that's because
[6:30:40] interest rate on the notes is
[6:30:41] higher than the effective rate
[6:30:45] so that the dollar amount that
[6:30:46] the investors are paying when
[6:30:47] the notes are sold is actually
[6:30:50] higher than the premium Yet
[6:30:51] it's the same pricing mechanism
[6:30:55] as our lease revenue bonds as
[6:30:55] many typical municipal bonds
[6:30:56] are issued under and it's just
[6:31:00] a term that we use original
[6:31:01] show premium to describe
[6:31:04] the price.
[6:31:05] All right.
[6:31:05] I'll put into that context you
[6:31:06] pointed out with the least
[6:31:08] revenue bonds then and we
[6:31:09] anticipate that 340 million
[6:31:10] sounds like a lot of cash
[6:31:14] That's how was that number
[6:31:18] arrived at very specifically
[6:31:19] that that premium generates
[6:31:23] roughly the 339 million of
[6:31:23] proceeds that will be will
[6:31:28] receive from the sale 332 is
[6:31:29] the is the palm is the so
[6:31:33] the principal amount that'll be
[6:31:36] due that'll come due in 12
[6:31:36] months.
[6:31:37] I see.
[6:31:38] Okay And we're paying it off
[6:31:41] over time Not all at once at
[6:31:41] the end.
[6:31:42] Correct.
[6:31:42] We'll be setting aside in
[6:31:43] the repayment fund once
[6:31:47] the repayment fund reaches 100%
[6:31:47] then we repay on JUNE 30th
[6:31:48] setting aside Very good And
[6:31:51] will that be something we're
[6:31:52] able to monitor on a quarterly
[6:31:52] basis or at those set aside
[6:31:53] periods?
[6:31:56] Absolutely.
[6:31:56] Okay.
[6:31:57] All right.
[6:31:57] Thank you.
[6:31:58] I feel more comfortable with
[6:31:58] that.
[6:31:58] Thank you.
[6:31:59] Council PRESIDENT.
[6:31:59] All right.
[6:32:00] Thank you, Councilmember Campo
[6:32:00] .
[6:32:01] Not seeing anybody on
[6:32:01] the lights.
[6:32:02] Let me ask one question.
[6:32:06] The investors get this for a
[6:32:06] whole year.
[6:32:07] So even though your schedule
[6:32:10] showed we would actually have
[6:32:11] set aside by MAY 1st we'll have
[6:32:12] those kind of city to the bank
[6:32:16] for all of MAY and all JUNE
[6:32:17] That's accumulating interest to
[6:32:18] our benefit And that's correct.
[6:32:20] That's right.
[6:32:21] >> Okay.
[6:32:21] All right.
[6:32:22] With that not seeing anybody
[6:32:25] else on the lights, we have a
[6:32:25] motion by myself on the second
[6:32:26] by council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
[6:32:27] Lee to move the recommendation
[6:32:30] clerk please call the roll I'm
[6:32:31] sorry The voting system Please
[6:32:39] cast your vote That passes
[6:32:40] seven two with Council member
[6:32:41] Moreno and Councilmember Von
[6:32:44] Wilpert voting no Thank you,
[6:32:45] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[6:32:46] Thank you for that Again, thank
[6:32:46] you to staff for the work to
[6:32:49] bring this forward.
[6:32:50] All right.
[6:32:53] Clerk Please introduce item
[6:32:53] 630.
[6:32:54] Item 630 is the authorization
[6:32:56] of the First Amendment to
[6:33:01] contract h242636 to dash m with
[6:33:02] Brown and Caldwell for design
[6:33:04] and construction services for
[6:33:05] the two Improvements and
[6:33:06] Modernization project six funds
[6:33:06] are required pursuant to
[6:33:10] Charter Section 99.
[6:33:11] If you'd like to speak on this
[6:33:12] item now's the time to submit
[6:33:12] your speaker slip to the front
[6:33:14] of the room in the clear box.
[6:33:15] If you are participating
[6:33:16] remotely please be sure to
[6:33:18] raise your hand by pressing
[6:33:19] Star nine or the raise your
[6:33:19] hand icon at this time.
[6:33:22] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[6:33:23] All right.
[6:33:23] Thank you.
[6:33:24] And just by way of brief
[6:33:27] explanation, this is an item
[6:33:28] that normally would have gone
[6:33:29] to 80 It wasn't able to this
[6:33:32] month And there's some hard
[6:33:32] deadlines that we're trying to
[6:33:33] meet and that's why it is being
[6:33:36] direct docketed.
[6:33:37] So staff I see you've settled
[6:33:38] in Introduce yourselves for
[6:33:39] the record and how much time do
[6:33:42] you need for the presentation?
[6:33:42] Good afternoon Honorable
[6:33:47] Council PRESIDENT And members
[6:33:47] of the City Council.
[6:33:48] My name is Shadi Sammy.
[6:33:49] I'm the Deputy Director for
[6:33:51] Utilities Project Delivery
[6:33:52] Division of the Engineering
[6:33:56] Capital Projects Department.
[6:33:57] With me here today is Doc
[6:33:57] Campbell, assistant director of
[6:34:01] the Public Utilities Department
[6:34:02] and Eric Rubalcaba, senior
[6:34:02] civil engineer with
[6:34:06] the engineering capital
[6:34:07] Projects Department who will be
[6:34:07] making this presentation today.
[6:34:10] And we need approximately ten
[6:34:10] minutes.
[6:34:10] All right.
[6:34:11] When you're ready.
[6:34:14] Thank you.
[6:34:20] Oh, thank you, Shari.
[6:34:21] So I requested action is an
[6:34:21] ordinance to approve an
[6:34:22] amendment to the Brian Caldwell
[6:34:24] design contract for the Pump
[6:34:25] Station two project for an
[6:34:28] amount not to exceed $2.294
[6:34:29] million and extend the contract
[6:34:32] from 5 to 8 years through 2032
[6:34:33] for continued engineering
[6:34:37] support.
[6:34:38] Position two is located on
[6:34:41] Harvard Drive within County
[6:34:41] District two adjacent to
[6:34:42] Terminal two of the San Diego
[6:34:45] Airport.
[6:34:46] The service area is almost
[6:34:47] equivalent to the San Diego
[6:34:50] County Pump Station two is
[6:34:51] the terminal point for
[6:34:52] the North metro system.
[6:34:55] Everything north of Highway
[6:34:56] eight and also the south metro
[6:34:57] system which is south of
[6:35:00] Highway o flows from pump
[6:35:01] station to end up at the Point
[6:35:01] Loma Wastewater Treatment plant
[6:35:05] for treatment and disposal with
[6:35:05] an average flow rate of 130
[6:35:09] million gallons per day.
[6:35:10] >> Pump Station two is
[6:35:11] the largest, most critical
[6:35:15] wastewater pump station in our
[6:35:16] system and operates 24 hours a
[6:35:16] day.
[6:35:19] It's been in service in 1963
[6:35:20] making the pump station 63
[6:35:23] years old and has a vertical
[6:35:24] shot Pumps which is pictured on
[6:35:28] the right hand side.
[6:35:29] Next two slides will provide
[6:35:34] context on the importance of
[6:35:34] the pump station and
[6:35:35] the project itself.
[6:35:38] In APRIL 2020 there was a heavy
[6:35:38] rain event that resulted in a
[6:35:42] spill into the Sweetwater River
[6:35:42] due to system blockages and
[6:35:43] pumps being out of service.
[6:35:47] This resulted in a cease and
[6:35:47] desist order in 2023 to
[6:35:48] complete upgrades to pump
[6:35:51] Station one By DECEMBER of 2028
[6:35:55] the city awarded a design build
[6:35:56] contract in 2024 to address
[6:36:00] this issue In JANUARY of 2023 a
[6:36:05] second rain event resulted in a
[6:36:05] spill event in the northern
[6:36:06] region.
[6:36:06] Primary causes were heavy
[6:36:10] inflows and pumps being out of
[6:36:10] service and pump station to
[6:36:11] the city and regulators are
[6:36:14] negotiating a path forward.
[6:36:15] But to date there is no cease
[6:36:16] and desist order for a pump
[6:36:19] station to.
[6:36:20] The city decided to move
[6:36:21] forward with a design contract
[6:36:23] in 2023 to complete the pump
[6:36:26] station to upgrade by DECEMBER
[6:36:32] of 2029 to develop a full scope
[6:36:33] for design services.
[6:36:33] We required a series of shut
[6:36:37] downs to conduct conditioning
[6:36:37] assessments primarily to
[6:36:38] the wells in flowing channels
[6:36:41] and interior of pipes.
[6:36:42] Unfortunately due to pumps
[6:36:43] being out of service and
[6:36:46] the pump station needing to
[6:36:46] operate 24 seven we could not
[6:36:47] take the risk of taking
[6:36:50] additional additional
[6:36:50] components off line and further
[6:36:51] reduce our pumping capacity.
[6:36:55] We decided to move forward with
[6:36:55] a reduced scope contract and
[6:36:56] negotiate an amendment Once we
[6:36:58] had the opportunity to conduct
[6:37:04] these required assessments.
[6:37:04] >> The original contract was
[6:37:08] awarded in JUNE of 2024 and
[6:37:08] included the design services
[6:37:09] for the replacement of
[6:37:10] the suction discharge and
[6:37:13] conveyance replace pumps,
[6:37:13] motors starters and some piping
[6:37:17] modifications and
[6:37:18] instrumentation and vac
[6:37:19] upgrades and minor building
[6:37:19] repairs.
[6:37:22] The original project also
[6:37:23] anticipated a three and a half
[6:37:24] year construction schedule.
[6:37:27] 9 to 12 months for equipment
[6:37:28] procurement and to be replaced
[6:37:32] in the dry season with one pump
[6:37:33] being replaced in the wet
[6:37:37] season.
[6:37:37] Midway through design we were
[6:37:38] able to conduct a series of
[6:37:41] shutdowns that allowed
[6:37:42] assessments of the wet wells
[6:37:43] improving channels and suction
[6:37:43] pipelines.
[6:37:46] We also conducted site
[6:37:47] investigations with the oem
[6:37:47] staff.
[6:37:50] Both identified new scope items
[6:37:51] .
[6:37:51] The city also determined that
[6:37:52] replacement of pumps during
[6:37:53] weather would not be allowed
[6:37:55] since it reduces pumping
[6:37:56] capacity and increases the risk
[6:38:00] of a spill.
[6:38:01] Pumps would only be replaced in
[6:38:02] the dry season two pumps per
[6:38:05] year increasing
[6:38:05] the construction schedule from
[6:38:10] three and a half to five years
[6:38:10] .
[6:38:11] The amendment includes
[6:38:13] construction support for
[6:38:14] the full five years versus
[6:38:15] the three and a half previously
[6:38:15] anticipated.
[6:38:19] A physical model This was based
[6:38:19] on lessons learned from pumps
[6:38:20] in one project.
[6:38:21] Structural retrofit of the wet
[6:38:23] was and influential ornl's
[6:38:24] sluice gate modifications and
[6:38:28] you stop lake system to ensure
[6:38:29] sewer type shutdowns an
[6:38:29] additional service allowance
[6:38:33] for unforeseen items and other
[6:38:33] minor position upgrades
[6:38:34] identified during site
[6:38:37] investigations.
[6:38:42] >> >> The original consultant
[6:38:43] contract was $2.94 million.
[6:38:46] This amendment adds $2.294
[6:38:46] million.
[6:38:47] This amendment was anticipated
[6:38:51] and fully funded via the fiscal
[6:38:52] year 26 allotment.
[6:38:55] The estimated total project
[6:38:55] cost is 135 million with
[6:38:58] construction costing 105
[6:38:59] million which will be awarded
[6:39:02] in fiscal year 27.
[6:39:07] The East the eoc goal for this
[6:39:08] project is 19.3 The Certified
[6:39:12] participation sits at 23.3 now
[6:39:13] provide a 4.7 with the total
[6:39:17] sub consultant Participation of
[6:39:17] 20% in this project is fully
[6:39:21] funded via the Metro Sewer
[6:39:21] Enterprise Fund.
[6:39:22] That concludes my presentation
[6:39:23] and we'll open it up to
[6:39:25] questions.
[6:39:26] >> All right.
[6:39:27] Thank you very much for
[6:39:27] the presentation, the good work
[6:39:28] to bring it forward.
[6:39:31] Clerk Please proceed with
[6:39:31] public comment.
[6:39:31] >> Thank you.
[6:39:32] Council PRESIDENT.
[6:39:33] We have allegedly order if you
[6:39:42] can please come forward.
[6:39:48] We have minutes.
[6:39:49] >> Everybody would leave its
[6:39:53] call.
[6:39:53] Yes this is interesting you
[6:39:54] guys in your not to exceed
[6:39:57] amounts I don't know why we say
[6:39:58] that because you're always like
[6:39:59] we're not going to exceed this
[6:40:02] amount and we're not exceeding
[6:40:03] it by this amount and it's not
[6:40:06] to exceed this amount And yet
[6:40:07] you keep exceeding that amount.
[6:40:08] So I just feel like what is
[6:40:11] the point of saying that
[6:40:12] because this is going to come
[6:40:13] back again and you're going to
[6:40:13] have five more amendments.
[6:40:17] I mean if you're saying are you
[6:40:20] saying this is going to cost
[6:40:21] $135 million to do, then how
[6:40:22] are we why are we having these
[6:40:25] not to exceed by 5 million Like
[6:40:25] you guys should be more
[6:40:29] transparent with the people.
[6:40:30] But if people really knew what
[6:40:31] you were doing I mean you
[6:40:34] wouldn't be here.
[6:40:35] >> So yeah, it just concerning
[6:40:38] especially with the like $5
[6:40:39] billion that you guys need for
[6:40:42] storm infrastructure it's like
[6:40:43] these are the type of things
[6:40:44] that need to be taken care of
[6:40:47] And I feel like they don't It's
[6:40:48] like you worry about other
[6:40:49] things like sure arts and
[6:40:52] culture is nice but it's like
[6:40:53] if we have a storm that comes
[6:40:53] and everybody loses everything
[6:40:54] because we can't keep up with
[6:40:57] the infrastructure, it's like
[6:40:58] are we really being good
[6:40:59] stewards of people's money If
[6:40:59] you're actually putting them in
[6:41:03] danger by not keeping up with
[6:41:03] the things that need to be kept
[6:41:04] up with and then you're like
[6:41:08] forced to do stuff.
[6:41:08] That's what seems to happen a
[6:41:09] lot of times it's like you get
[6:41:12] forced to capitulate as opposed
[6:41:13] to just doing your job and
[6:41:14] making sure that these types of
[6:41:17] things are covered instead of
[6:41:18] having to like go in and borrow
[6:41:22] money all the time because
[6:41:23] we're just you know, we have a
[6:41:23] mayor that likes to make, you
[6:41:27] know, music videos, stuff like
[6:41:32] that with our money and use all
[6:41:33] pr that doesn't work and now
[6:41:33] we're in litigation for it.
[6:41:37] How cool is that Like imagine
[6:41:38] how much money that's going to
[6:41:39] cost us and they're going to
[6:41:41] probably bring in more of it
[6:41:42] and then just you know, ask
[6:41:42] the people for more money.
[6:41:46] I'm sure Jennifer will get it
[6:41:47] in her nice income tax that's
[6:41:48] going to come in.
[6:41:56] I'll we call write a job we'll
[6:41:57] go to those participating
[6:41:57] remotely a story of the five
[6:41:58] minute time or Hector if you
[6:42:00] can please unmute.
[6:42:01] All right.
[6:42:01] Thanks for taking my call.
[6:42:05] Yeah looks like we got to do
[6:42:06] something with this.
[6:42:06] Definitely have to do it or
[6:42:09] whatever it costs and then I
[6:42:10] was thinking too on the other
[6:42:11] cost overruns with the pure
[6:42:15] water system on board Now we
[6:42:15] should get financial updates
[6:42:20] every month on that because
[6:42:21] that's going to be they're just
[6:42:21] going to add it into the bill
[6:42:24] and the bill on the bill
[6:42:24] instead of waiting for a couple
[6:42:25] of years from now And there's
[6:42:28] like a $2 million extra charge
[6:42:33] on the bill So we should have
[6:42:34] those this thing we got to do
[6:42:38] the sewer lines and the water
[6:42:38] is going to take pressure off
[6:42:39] this valves.
[6:42:42] It's going to take some of
[6:42:43] the action off of it eventually
[6:42:46] But down the road there's going
[6:42:47] to be all sorts of cost
[6:42:48] overruns on the pure water
[6:42:52] system no matter what happens.
[6:42:53] You know it's going to cost
[6:42:56] like a railroad thing.
[6:42:57] It's going to cost 200,000,200
[6:43:01] billion And we spent 14 billion
[6:43:02] on the railroad to nowhere from
[6:43:07] California And when it was
[6:43:10] supposed to be all done for 30
[6:43:11] billion every year there's
[6:43:12] overruns and it's just a slush
[6:43:15] fund.
[6:43:16] So I'm I'm not afraid but I
[6:43:20] know that the cure Water
[6:43:21] Project is going to turn into a
[6:43:25] slush fund just like it did for
[6:43:25] the state on the on the rapid
[6:43:30] rail road system That's going
[6:43:30] nowhere.
[6:43:31] So capture some of that money
[6:43:36] and put it in the sewer planet
[6:43:37] to you want to river No more
[6:43:41] money to the high speed rail
[6:43:41] nothing Get rid of it Get rid
[6:43:45] of the governor to man that
[6:43:46] guy's a criminal.
[6:43:46] You know We just got it.
[6:43:47] His wife took all the fire
[6:43:50] money Is those donations to
[6:43:55] the fires His wife took it and
[6:43:55] then like lying about it.
[6:43:59] Now that's it's it's that's
[6:44:00] that's how they work.
[6:44:00] That's how they roll, man.
[6:44:01] They're criminals.
[6:44:04] Those guys.
[6:44:04] >> We've got to go.
[6:44:05] Time has concluded.
[6:44:21] Tony, if you can please unmute
[6:44:21] and you hear me.
[6:44:22] Yes, we can.
[6:44:22] Please proceed.
[6:44:25] Hey, thank you.
[6:44:26] Don't have much to say about
[6:44:26] this project supportive of
[6:44:30] whatever decision is taken in
[6:44:34] whatever direction it goes in.
[6:44:35] I wanted to finish something
[6:44:36] that I was saying earlier
[6:44:36] today.
[6:44:39] I was acknowledging and
[6:44:40] thanking everyone on this
[6:44:41] council for their hard work in
[6:44:44] the last couple of weeks and
[6:44:45] for meeting us at least more
[6:44:49] than halfway with regard to
[6:44:50] restoring rights.
[6:44:50] I would love for the arts to be
[6:44:51] fully funded.
[6:44:52] I would love for Oasis to be
[6:44:54] fully funded.
[6:44:55] I would love to see Flock but I
[6:44:59] am really tired of seeing us
[6:45:00] being used as guinea pigs for
[6:45:04] luxury surveillance technology
[6:45:04] that has already caused
[6:45:05] problems within the city that's
[6:45:09] already costing us more And
[6:45:09] right now when we're having
[6:45:10] these budget discussions I
[6:45:11] don't think that we're being
[6:45:14] very realistic about the cost
[6:45:15] of the lawsuits that are coming
[6:45:15] out of the budget And I get
[6:45:19] that they're not coming out of
[6:45:19] the general fund.
[6:45:20] I get that they come out of
[6:45:20] the private liability fund But
[6:45:23] I think that we have a really
[6:45:24] big issue with our city council
[6:45:27] that it seems like no one is
[6:45:28] really concerned if these funds
[6:45:29] are coming out of the private
[6:45:32] liability fund.
[6:45:33] It's like we have a double
[6:45:36] standard there and it's like
[6:45:37] there's just this total
[6:45:37] disconnect for holding
[6:45:41] the bureaucracy of police
[6:45:42] funding accountable whether it
[6:45:46] be for police brutality.
[6:45:47] I was just reading in
[6:45:48] the Union-Tribune two weeks ago
[6:45:51] or not Sunday but the Sunday
[6:45:52] before last about the dhs agent
[6:45:56] the agent dhs agent who was
[6:45:57] beat up by pd and called a
[6:45:58] whole bunch of racial slurs for
[6:46:01] knocking on his window when he
[6:46:01] was trying to get a hold of
[6:46:02] him.
[6:46:02] And that's another lawsuit
[6:46:05] that's going to cost us who
[6:46:06] knows how many more millions.
[6:46:06] And there's just what I'm
[6:46:07] really concerned about is that
[6:46:10] there's no formal way that
[6:46:14] the cp has no teeth even though
[6:46:14] six years ago that's what
[6:46:15] the citizens of San Diego voted
[6:46:15] for.
[6:46:18] Francine has expressed the same
[6:46:19] concern.
[6:46:20] I just don't really see us
[6:46:24] making any progress We need to
[6:46:25] have courage to confront as dpd
[6:46:28] not just cheerlead its
[6:46:29] concluded your time has
[6:46:30] concluded and that concludes
[6:46:30] public comment on this item.
[6:46:33] >> All right Thank you for
[6:46:34] that.
[6:46:34] City clerk will now turn it
[6:46:37] over to council colleagues for
[6:46:38] questions, comments and
[6:46:38] entertain a motion And we'll
[6:46:39] start with Council member
[6:46:43] Campbell.
[6:46:43] >> Thank you so much.
[6:46:44] This is part of the Point Loma
[6:46:48] pump system.
[6:46:49] We have to do this I move
[6:46:49] staff's recommendation.
[6:46:53] All right thank you council
[6:46:53] members.
[6:46:54] So a motion by council member
[6:46:57] Campbell I'll go ahead and
[6:47:02] second that not anybody else
[6:47:03] might I'll just add my thank
[6:47:03] you for taking care of it.
[6:47:06] Pump Station two is kind of a
[6:47:07] big deal isn't it, in the city?
[6:47:08] So yeah, we got to do it right
[6:47:11] As my colleagues said.
[6:47:11] So we have a motion by Council
[6:47:12] member Campbell the second by
[6:47:13] myself to move the staff
[6:47:16] recommendation.
[6:47:16] >> Please call the roll I'm
[6:47:17] sorry the voting system Please
[6:47:25] cast your vote And that does
[6:47:25] passed unanimously 920 Thank
[6:47:26] you Council PRESIDENT All
[6:47:26] right.
[6:47:27] Thank you.
[6:47:30] City Clerk Clerk Please
[6:47:34] introduce item 632 Item 632 is
[6:47:35] the construction change order
[6:47:39] number five with pc Allen
[6:47:40] Construction Services Inc for
[6:47:40] the installation of a new
[6:47:44] batting cage for Mira mesa
[6:47:44] Community Park Improvements
[6:47:45] Phase two If you'd like to
[6:47:46] speak on this item now's
[6:47:49] the time to raise your hand by
[6:47:50] pressing Star nine or the raise
[6:47:50] your hand icon or by submitting
[6:47:53] a speaker slip If you're here
[6:47:54] in person to the front of
[6:47:55] the room in the clear box.
[6:47:55] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[6:47:59] Thank you.
[6:47:59] Council Council PRESIDENT Pro
[6:48:00] Tem Lee this is in your
[6:48:00] district.
[6:48:03] Did you want to hear
[6:48:04] the presentation or happy to
[6:48:04] waive the presentation.
[6:48:05] Anybody else want to hear
[6:48:08] the presentation?
[6:48:09] All right with that Well thank
[6:48:09] you staff for the work to bring
[6:48:12] it forward and be prepared for
[6:48:13] any questions and comments that
[6:48:13] MAY come up.
[6:48:17] But let's go ahead and go to
[6:48:18] public comment.
[6:48:19] >> Thank you, Max Schmidt, if
[6:48:21] you can please come forward to
[6:48:22] the microphone after that will
[6:48:32] be allegedly Audra, how much
[6:48:32] time do I have?
[6:48:33] >> Sorry.
[6:48:35] You'll have one minute and a
[6:48:38] half on hi items 632 I'm here
[6:48:39] on the paper says installation
[6:48:44] of a new batting cage for
[6:48:44] the Mira Mess Community park.
[6:48:45] I hope everyone understands
[6:48:48] where I'm coming from.
[6:48:48] This is the United States of
[6:48:53] America and I don't have mental
[6:48:53] freedom.
[6:48:54] I am a mind control victim
[6:48:58] where people at the homeless
[6:48:59] shelter that I'm staying at and
[6:49:00] the only reason I'm homeless is
[6:49:03] because they 5150 then 52 50th
[6:49:04] MAY decide to leave the state
[6:49:04] to not get forced
[6:49:06] antipsychotics at the homeless
[6:49:07] shelter I'm staying at
[6:49:08] the staff and other homeless
[6:49:08] people.
[6:49:09] I don't know if they're feds.
[6:49:11] They're obviously Freemasons
[6:49:12] because they're telepathic.
[6:49:13] They keep a constant like
[6:49:17] audible voice saying my
[6:49:17] thoughts out loud mocking me,
[6:49:21] accusing me of things and I
[6:49:22] can't even think I do not have
[6:49:25] mental freedom in America And
[6:49:26] it's a shame on City Council
[6:49:31] for not caring about my
[6:49:32] situation and instead my tax
[6:49:36] dollars are going towards
[6:49:36] the batting cage and mirror
[6:49:37] message or something And all of
[6:49:40] this is because I am I'm
[6:49:41] exposing the new World order to
[6:49:45] the point where the whole
[6:49:45] entire world's population is
[6:49:46] going to know that the majority
[6:49:50] of people in the West Coast are
[6:49:51] on their third act of life and
[6:49:55] they've all reincarnated in
[6:49:56] the cancer park There's a
[6:49:59] statue of a of an old lady gone
[6:50:00] through an archway and coming
[6:50:01] out a little kid There's
[6:50:04] statues about reincarnation and
[6:50:05] I say down off the court you
[6:50:06] shame on all of you like you
[6:50:16] allegedly Audra two hundred
[6:50:21] thousand dollars for a batting
[6:50:21] cage seems quite excessive when
[6:50:25] you could spend I don't know 15
[6:50:25] to $50,000 on it.
[6:50:30] I mean you might as well put,
[6:50:31] you know, 4 or 10 there and you
[6:50:35] know, for that price.
[6:50:36] But it's like anything that
[6:50:36] the government does they'll
[6:50:37] charge you more.
[6:50:40] But I feel like there are parks
[6:50:40] that could use, you know,
[6:50:44] lighting and cameras.
[6:50:45] You know, there's rapes
[6:50:45] happening in parks.
[6:50:46] People are being brutally
[6:50:50] assaulted by police officers
[6:50:50] like in Raghu Campos district
[6:50:54] at Linda Vista Recreation with
[6:50:55] Anthony Warner.
[6:50:56] I mean it's like it's kind of a
[6:50:59] disservice to go to certain
[6:51:00] communities and put this type
[6:51:04] of, you know, accessory per se
[6:51:05] in there where other people are
[6:51:09] just begging for like a swing
[6:51:09] And it's like if you go and
[6:51:14] live in another community you
[6:51:14] can have batting cages, you can
[6:51:15] have you know, hot who knows
[6:51:19] equestrian stuff, all of these
[6:51:19] great perks.
[6:51:20] But I mean if people just want
[6:51:21] a park to go to to bring their
[6:51:24] kids and it's not even safe, I
[6:51:25] just don't think that we should
[6:51:28] be spending $200,000 on a
[6:51:28] batting cage again, especially
[6:51:32] when you could spend less and
[6:51:33] you could put more of them in
[6:51:37] other places like for 50 grand
[6:51:37] each You could go to four
[6:51:38] different parks and put them in
[6:51:41] there but instead let's spend
[6:51:42] this $200,000 here and it makes
[6:51:43] me wonder like who's getting
[6:51:46] kicked back from that Because
[6:51:47] it's like you guys don't have
[6:51:47] to spend money like this but
[6:51:51] you do going to those
[6:51:52] participating remotely.
[6:51:52] Samantha if you can please
[6:52:00] unmute on this is Samantha
[6:52:01] Castronovo and I'm hearing
[6:52:05] the comments on this and then
[6:52:05] it's not clear.
[6:52:07] So hey I wish the presentation
[6:52:13] wasn't waved and I don't know
[6:52:17] what to say.
[6:52:18] I'm just going to hope that
[6:52:19] council members make the right
[6:52:19] decision on this because there
[6:52:22] are other things being cut and
[6:52:27] that 200,000 is much needed in
[6:52:34] many other places right now.
[6:52:39] >> I might conclude with that.
[6:52:44] That concludes your comments.
[6:52:44] Yes.
[6:52:45] Thank you, Tony.
[6:52:48] If you can please unmute.
[6:52:53] Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel
[6:52:54] about this batting cages I mean
[6:52:58] ideally it's a fantastic thing
[6:52:59] and I love to see this money
[6:53:00] going towards youth services
[6:53:03] towards parks and I ordinarily
[6:53:03] would feel like it's a
[6:53:04] fantastic thing just given
[6:53:07] the budget crisis I'm not
[6:53:08] exactly sure where that fits
[6:53:13] into everything but I guess if
[6:53:14] we can fit it in I don't know
[6:53:17] maybe this maybe this I'm
[6:53:18] thinking out loud but maybe
[6:53:18] this is the preventative care
[6:53:22] and the preventative public
[6:53:23] service that we need.
[6:53:24] I hope that I hope that if this
[6:53:28] money is spent in that
[6:53:28] direction I'll say this I hope
[6:53:29] that the batting cages are
[6:53:32] utilized and they are used
[6:53:33] regularly.
[6:53:36] It's a shame we don't see as
[6:53:37] many kids going outside anymore
[6:53:38] as we used to but that's a
[6:53:41] separate discussion for a
[6:53:42] separate day I wanted to finish
[6:53:43] what I was saying earlier
[6:53:46] really I wanted to thank you.
[6:53:47] I appreciate the dry wit and
[6:53:48] sense of humor.
[6:53:52] I thought it was pretty funny
[6:53:55] the joke you cracked about
[6:53:56] 1993, the reference you made
[6:53:56] with the lifeguards and then
[6:53:57] saying you know, but none of
[6:54:00] you were probably alive back
[6:54:00] then Something that you do
[6:54:01] every meeting You crack like
[6:54:05] jokes dry witty jokes and
[6:54:06] sometimes they go over people's
[6:54:06] heads or sometimes people
[6:54:09] aren't ready for them so they
[6:54:10] don't always land.
[6:54:14] But I learned to appreciate
[6:54:15] that.
[6:54:15] So thanks for doing that.
[6:54:19] And finally I wanted to say
[6:54:19] Henry Foster, thank you for
[6:54:20] being back.
[6:54:21] Great to see you asking all
[6:54:24] the questions with regard to
[6:54:25] the funding.
[6:54:25] >> Thank you.
[6:54:26] Thank you, Hector.
[6:54:27] As our final speaker, Hector,
[6:54:32] if you can please unmute.
[6:54:33] >> Well hi Hector.
[6:54:34] Thanks for taking my call And
[6:54:37] this is a great use of money
[6:54:38] man this is great especially in
[6:54:38] Miramar.
[6:54:41] So man there's a lot of like
[6:54:42] kids up there and stuff and you
[6:54:47] should get involved.
[6:54:47] Any Asian kid like in the first
[6:54:51] and third, second, third grade
[6:54:52] give like a letter in the mail
[6:54:55] and invite them to the grand
[6:54:56] opening of this thing and tell
[6:54:57] them we're looking for the next
[6:55:01] row.
[6:55:01] The Padres are going to need
[6:55:02] another It's your map and it's
[6:55:05] come it's going to come out of
[6:55:06] Miramar So it's going to take
[6:55:09] time and give them give them a
[6:55:10] letter man And one of those
[6:55:11] little guys would go Yeah, I
[6:55:14] want to be Ichiro and we could
[6:55:15] have him on the Padres.
[6:55:19] So I think you should do more
[6:55:20] of this And every every council
[6:55:23] district should have their own
[6:55:24] pitching machine and stuff.
[6:55:25] This is a great thing for them.
[6:55:28] It's money well spent and and
[6:55:29] the Padres are going to need
[6:55:29] some of that Asian pitching
[6:55:33] that like the Dodgers they're
[6:55:34] getting them from Japan but we
[6:55:38] got him homegrown right here in
[6:55:39] San Diego Man We got him man So
[6:55:43] instead of paying those
[6:55:44] Japanese and you know, carrying
[6:55:48] guys from Korea we can get our
[6:55:49] own guys pay them anyway.
[6:55:53] GOD bless you guys.
[6:55:53] >> Goodbye.
[6:55:54] Thank you.
[6:55:54] That concludes public comment
[6:55:55] on this item.
[6:55:55] All right.
[6:55:55] Thank you.
[6:55:58] City clerk turned over to my
[6:55:58] council colleagues for
[6:55:59] questions.
[6:55:59] Comments Entertain a motion and
[6:56:00] we'll start with Council
[6:56:03] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Daniels
[6:56:04] PRESIDENT This is an item and
[6:56:04] thank you for weighing
[6:56:07] the presentation.
[6:56:08] This is an item that's actually
[6:56:09] a follow up to when
[6:56:09] the emergency committee park
[6:56:11] was first approved for phase
[6:56:11] one where the space was left
[6:56:12] for batting cages.
[6:56:16] The project was intended but
[6:56:17] never completed and the mayor
[6:56:21] pays to park.
[6:56:21] Phase two project has been well
[6:56:22] underway.
[6:56:22] We're very excited that it's
[6:56:26] actually ahead of schedule and
[6:56:27] as we understand it has left
[6:56:27] some room available as well so
[6:56:28] that this project could be
[6:56:31] taken care of in partnership
[6:56:32] with the users of the park.
[6:56:36] And so the funds only come from
[6:56:37] within the community funds So
[6:56:38] it does not take away from
[6:56:41] other components of the urban
[6:56:42] as we're debating tomorrow's
[6:56:42] budget.
[6:56:42] But we'd be happy to make
[6:56:43] the motion to approve this
[6:56:43] item.
[6:56:44] Thank you.
[6:56:45] All right.
[6:56:46] We have a motion by Council
[6:56:47] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee to move
[6:56:47] the staff recommendation
[6:56:51] Council member Yellow Rivera
[6:56:51] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[6:56:52] I'll second I appreciate
[6:56:55] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
[6:56:56] explaining the limited ways in
[6:56:57] which these funds can be used
[6:57:00] And then I just wanted to point
[6:57:00] this part out because it kind
[6:57:05] of came up and yes we should
[6:57:06] always be as efficient as
[6:57:06] possible their dollars make
[6:57:07] sure they're being spent
[6:57:09] appropriately and giving young
[6:57:10] people an opportunity to
[6:57:14] practice a craft like kidding
[6:57:15] is the exact sort of thing that
[6:57:16] keeps them out of trouble and
[6:57:19] gives them purpose and make
[6:57:20] sure they stay on a positive
[6:57:20] path.
[6:57:21] Repetition Getting positive
[6:57:24] reinforcement, seeing
[6:57:24] themselves improve.
[6:57:25] It's something all the things
[6:57:26] with all things that happen in
[6:57:29] batting cages are exactly
[6:57:29] the sort of thing that we want
[6:57:30] more of in the city.
[6:57:30] So thank you.
[6:57:34] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem for
[6:57:34] explaining details here.
[6:57:36] This seems like an excellent
[6:57:42] investment.
[6:57:42] Can I take that as a second?
[6:57:43] All right.
[6:57:44] So we have a motion by Council
[6:57:46] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee and
[6:57:47] second by Council Mariano
[6:57:47] Rivera to move the staff report
[6:57:50] staff recommendation.
[6:57:51] >> I'll add my thanks.
[6:57:55] Please call the roll.
[6:57:56] I set up the voting system.
[6:58:00] Please cast your vote and that
[6:58:00] passes unanimously 9 to 0.
[6:58:01] All right.
[6:58:01] Again, thank you.
[6:58:05] The staff that brings us to
[6:58:05] the end.
[6:58:06] We will now adjourn council to
[6:58:10] the special council meeting on
[6:58:13] Tuesday, JUNE 9th, 2026 at 9
[6:58:14] A.M. 9 A.M. Where we will start
[6:58:18] with nine Agenda Public comment