and
I can get started.
Good morning.
I will now call the City
Council meeting of Tuesday JUNE
16th 2026 to order Clerk Please
call the roll.
>> Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT Councilmember
Campbell Councilmember Whitburn
Councilmember Foster here
Councilmember Bong for Council
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
Councilmember You Councilor
Moreno Councilmember Ella
Rivera and Council PRESIDENT
LaCava.
A quorum is now present.
We will begin this morning with
the land acknowledgment and
the Pledge of Allegiance led by
Council member Moreno Thank
you.
Please stand.
We respectfully acknowledge
that the culmination or
the original inhabitants of
the Unceded land now known as
San Diego despite enduring
the horrors of genocide and
colonization, the Kumi spirit
remains unbroken.
We honor the resilience of
their ancestors who fought to
protect their culture and land.
Today they carry their legacy
forward ensuring that their
traditions continue to thrive
in gratitude and strength.
We stand with the culmination
connected to our past and
committed to a thriving future.
Please raise the flag Put your
hand over your heart and repeat
after me.
I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which
it stands One nation under GOD,
indivisible with liberty and
justice for all.
Eloquent as please go over how
the public can offer their
testimony.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT I'd like to
highlight the slide on
the screen that reveals how
the public can offer their
public testimony during today's
meeting.
Please note the time
allocations for proclamations
and consent items for meeting
management purposes The order
can be found on the agenda
Summary found online or at
the table in the back of
the room.
If you're in person please
complete speakers with these
complaints because I've looked
at the entrance of chambers and
bring it to the front of
the room in the clear box.
Council ambassadors are
available near the entrance of
chambers and can assist with
questions and speakers lips no
further into person testimony
will be taken at once
the Council begins Virtual
testimony.
Thank you Counsel Present All
right.
Thank you.
So we will begin this morning
by dispensing with the approval
of the proclamation items Clerk
Please proceed with public
comment.
Thank you.
The public comment period for
proclamations is now open.
Each speaker will have one
minute per item per person.
If you would like to speak on
three or more items you will
have a maximum of three
minutes.
The proclamation items being
approved are items 3332 and as
503.
If I can have Jacob Lewis
Edwards please come forward to
the microphone.
And then after that is Joyce
Zenyatta.
And then after that we have
Samuel Merrill, Stephen Lynn
Lundy, Ronnie Gillett and
Johnny.
If you can all please come up
to the front row in the yellow
reserved seats.
Jacob you're speaking on item
3031 and 32 so you'll have
three minutes.
Please proceed.
Good morning men and women of
our city council and everybody
in council chambers.
Thank you for allowing me
standing in front of you today
to speak.
Proclamation days are very
important that are to recognize
days of recognition.
>> This is a city This is a
country of the melting pot for
the people by the people.
I would like to address our
African American friends,
neighbors, loved ones,
community members that
African-American folk were done
horribly wrong in past history
and that needs to be recognized
for what's going on in our
country though is unjust for
everybody.
I spoke in front of city
Council a couple months back
and I posted it on YouTube.
If you look up Jacob Edwards
speaks on YouTube and you will
see that short clip Since that
speech what has occurred is
very concerning.
Our country had been hijacked
hijacked by the Italian mafia
and we allowed that in our
country.
Chinese espionage was on it
the entire time from the jump
and they have capitalized on it
and they are positioned and
ready to take over our
government and our country.
The deal they made with
the Federal Reserve families to
declare their debt to
the Chinese is very disturbing
to eliminate the best of
the best in our country.
So their best of the best can
come in taking our country
over.
>> This is being covered up.
Some are going along with this
.
Some who are aware are too
afraid to confront and running
from it.
I encourage everybody and
anybody that can please stand
up.
We stand up for ourselves.
We stand up for each other and
we stand up for our country and
it's time to do so.
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you
for allowing me to speak in
front of you And uh, GOD bless
the city of San Diego.
GOD bless the United States And
I will be speaking again.
>> Troy Senator, if you can
please come forward.
You're speaking items 30 and
it's 503 so you'll have two
minutes.
Please proceed.
I think you have 30 Jewish
American Heritage Month.
The Jewish people have existed
for over 3000 years coming from
all races, backgrounds and
countries across the world.
Perhaps there is only one
family tree growing on our
beautiful earth.
Then we could say one people
one family one world.
Love to all the members of that
beautiful family tree.
All right.
As five over three Juneteenth
2026 date perhaps the roots of
the family tree that I just
spoke of for the Jewish people
are the roots of freedom for
all peoples.
Just imagine how strong that
tree would be, how beautiful
that tree would be with all
family members living in
freedom And that coming from
the very roots of that tree.
When I Googled the movie Roots
an image of a young black boy
with heavy manacles on his
wrist appeared It wasn't
the manacles that stood out to
me it was the piercing look of
struggle and suffering in his
eyes that looked out at me.
And it was really, really tough
for me to keep my look into his
eyes.
Love all of you.
Thank you very much for coming.
Sorry for your struggles but
we're together and we're doing
it okay.
>> Love to all.
Thank you.
Samuel Merrill.
You have Johanna Harriet.
Please raise your hand.
>> Thank you.
Oh, Jonathan.
Sorry.
>> You'll have two minutes on
items.
5 or 3.
Please proceed.
Thank you.
Good morning, Council members.
i am Samuel Merrill.
As we celebrate Juneteenth, we
honor a defining moment in
American history the day when
the last U.S. The last enslaved
African-Americans learned of
their freedom.
Juneteenth reminds us that
freedom today is freedom denied
and that progress often comes
only through persistence,
sacrifice and struggle.
Today as a city we acknowledge
that historical inequities
helped shape many of
the disparities we continue to
see in our communities.
We have recognized
the importance of pursuing
equity in our policies and
budgeting decisions and our
investments in communities that
have too often been overlooked
Where progress has been made.
The work is not complete.
Juneteenth is not only a
celebration of black heritage,
resilience and achievement.
It is also a call to action.
It reminds us that justice and
equity are ongoing pursuits
that require a commitment and
accountability.
As we reflect on
the significance of Juneteenth,
let us celebrate how far we
have come, where we made and
committed to the work that lies
ahead.
I mean this observance
encourage us to continue
pursuing justice, expanding
opportunity and building a city
where equity is a reality for
all.
>> Thank you.
Thank you.
Next we have Steven Lundy for
item 31.
>> Good morning City Council
Chambers.
I would like to thank
the Council and particular
council members Whitburn and
Capello for their sponsorship
of the proclamation recognizing
the sunnier Scottish Highland
Games and gathering plans for
its 50th holding of
the Highland Games in San Diego
and Sydney County.
The Games as you refer to it as
similar to Seven Rings Circus
with several events and
competitions running
concurrently.
The competition is are heavy
athletics where various classes
and athletes are throwing heavy
things for distance or height
whether it be a hammer
the Panama stone, a corn sheaf
and of course the caber where a
perfect score is given for
turning in line and the caber
at 12:00 Street in front of
the thrower.
The origins of the Scottish
Athletics is before the modern
Olympics Highland dancing
dancers compete in classes of
age and proficiency.
They perform a highland fling
with arms like a Gloria Stag
The sword dance over crossed
swords to celebrate a victory
in battle.
The show entries are all
trousers another celebration
kicking of them down trousers
after the act of prescription
was lifted.
>> Thank you for that
concluding sentence.
I'm sorry it is one minute but
if you have written comments
you can definitely give them to
my staff and they can pass it
around for the council to
continue reading them.
Thank you.
Would you like to leave here?
Ronnie Gilet You have people in
your time.
Stay and.
>> Jenny Yes I would like to
call Jennifer sitting for me
for our large community and
then Berlin.
>> Thank you.
You'll have three minutes.
Please proceed.
>> Good morning.
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celebrate the history, culture,
resilience and contribution of
the Asian people but also to
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celebration possible.
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concluding comment.
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>> Thank you.
Next is Johnny.
Johnny.
Oh, that was you.
Okay.
Maximilian Schmidt, you are
speaking on items s503 item 32.
>> Item 31 and item 30 You'll
have three minutes to speak on
all of those items.
Hi.
I just wanted to talk about
item 30 Jewish American
Heritage Month on the Masonic
lodges down the street have a
the star of David on it and
also the Seal Solomon And for
me having a whole month on
where this is celebrated is
already impressing on me
because I'm being targeted by
Freemasons And so that's hard
for me as a Christian because I
feel like I'm already being
persecuted And for the Haitian
Flag Day I'm just out here
making points that I think
someone has to make if no one
else is going to make them.
Um, Haiti is widely considered
one of the most corrupt
countries in the world and
their people are some of
the poorest and the is
the poorest country in
the Western Hemisphere And I
like I'm just curious how for
the we celebrate Jewish
American heritage Month and
Haitian Flag Day I wish we
could celebrate I think
the people from Haiti are some
of the friendliest people.
Some of them are my neighbors
But I wish we could separate
the flag from the people
instead of having Haitian Flag
Day Maybe on Haitian Heritage
Day.
And the reason why is because I
used to live in a third world
country in Namibia, Africa and
I visited the slums and I know
what it's like to walk around
that area And I volunteered
there And I think there's
people in Haiti who MAY feel
oppressed by the Haitian flag
where the government is rich
and the government has all
the money.
I think it's actually been
considered state capture what's
going on in Haiti and I'm just
here to make the point.
Having a flag that's that
celebrates the most corrupt
government in the world and
the poorest country in
the world due to the government
corruption where the government
sitting fine in Haiti and
they're flying the flag over
their mansions.
And I just wanted to say I wish
we got Haitian Heritage Day,
not Haitian Flag Day And again
separate the people from
the country and I think a lot
of people in Haiti MAY even see
more freedom in the American
flag than the Haitian flag of
the people actually in Haiti
And I just wanted to say for
the other for Juneteenth Day
and I have no comment on that.
And for the Scottish Highland
Games Day, um when I think of
Scottish heritage I think of
how I'm being persecuted by
the Masonic Lodge for being a
Christian And I honestly think
of the Scottish Rite and again
I have two things that resemble
Freemasonry and then a Haitian
Flag Day resembling a corrupt
government.
>> I'm oppose I oppose then
that does confuse your time
allegedly.
Andre, if you can please come
forward you'll have two minutes
speaking on items 30 and that's
503 32 I'll add the minute and
add that to your time So so you
guys in your proclamations it's
interesting how much time we
spend on this and then how much
time we spend on doing
the business that needs to be
done like with consent throwing
all these things you know and
you know one thing one vote and
all that and you know it just
feels like you guys want to get
through business, you know, and
make these times seem like
everything is all right.
And you know, Max had a really
good point about the Haitian
flag and celebrating that
because that could be seen by
some individuals as something
that is like an enslavement.
I mean I'm starting to see
the American flag is kind of an
embarrassment because of all
the things that happen in our
nation and the enslavement that
happens with the people.
And that's why even with
Juneteenth it's like, you know,
nobody's free.
I mean we can celebrate these
things because nobody should be
enslaved But you know, as as a
mass as a group, as all of us
we are being enslaved because
if you look at what's happening
across the world, I mean people
are, you know, suffering.
I mean they're just trying to
survive and then, you know,
the government's here to put
you in all these programs and
it's like a prison cell that
you guys put people in and you
create dependance and the need
for you know, people to come
and get services But then you
don't even really provide
the services that need to be
you guys take our money and you
racketeer with it.
It's really sad and it's like
you know behind all of these
proclamations there's so much
more that needs to be talked
about And that's why Ephesians
511 is so important because
we're in a spiritual battle and
we have been since
the beginning of time And for
those of you that believe you
should really see that and
that's why we're not supposed
to engage with this spiritual
works the works of spiritual
darkness but we're rather to
approve them.
And so sometimes that means
saying things that people
aren't going to like hearing.
But I feel like when we are
celebrating Jewish heritage,
you know, we don't talk about
the things like you know that
in the Talmud you know, a three
year old plus one day is able
to consent to having sex that's
pedophilia that Moyles will go
in and orally copulate also
known as rape boys who have
been circumcised And that's
actually a satanic ritual to
the blood of a child like that.
And it's just sad that that can
happen in front of so many
people.
I mean this is why the abuse of
children continues because
people brush stuff like this
under the rug And Israel is a
pedophile sanctuary.
It's a place where people can
go and not have any you know,
accountability for children.
And again, America is
the biggest consumer of child
porn.
It gets distributed across all
over.
I mean you guys have had
officers that have you know,
are being charged with that So
thank you for that remark.
>> Sidney Cooper Jr After that
we have Jason Shanley If you
can please come up to
the yellow reserved seats
Sidney to the microphone and
Jason Shanley up to the hill
reserved seats.
>> Please proceed.
I just wanted to thank you for
the acknowledgment of
Juneteenth the Cooper Family
Foundation.
The gentlemen spoke before
about Juneteenth and its
importance in its history and I
don't want to go over that but
I would like to say something
about my mother and father and
being in southeast San Diego
and wanting to celebrate
Juneteenth coming from
the South there's pretty much
three pillars to
the celebration.
One is healing the community,
bringing the community together
in education.
Part of that education is going
to be honoring the people who
came before us.
That was part of the enslaved
people the Emancipation
Proclamation then all the way
through Jim Crow and
segregation and coming together
as a community to heal.
Just wanted to thank
the council for having me and
my family here
The acknowledgment of
Juneteenth and
the accomplishments of all
Americans and making this day
become a national day because
that was the really vision of
my father's making Juneteenth a
national holiday.
We've been celebrating
Juneteenth for over 55 years
ever since I was a little kid
And I went to the point with my
heart.
So thank you so much.
Thank you for that.
Thank you, Mark.
Thank you for the time.
>> Thank you.
Jason Chandler Yeah, I'm Jason
Shelly I'm just speaking
because I have the ability to
and I think it's important to
exercise rights when we have
them.
Very grateful for City Council
remembering Juneteenth.
What I was thinking about on my
way down here was people
toiling and not understanding
that freedom was around
the corner And what I was
thinking to myself and maybe to
remind leaders and people that
MAY be struggling for a
particular cause I think it's
important to remember that
sometimes the freedom has come
and we just haven't the message
hasn't been delivered yet.
And so to me it was a silver
lining in Juneteenth that
freedom was always available.
It's just that people just
didn't know.
And so I just wanted to
encourage everybody to see it
through.
Thank you for all that you do
Thank you for continuing to
remember these things and I
hope that we can get to
the point at some point where
we realize that to be little
celebrations of people that are
here in America try to enjoy
what they enjoy I think is a
disservice to the things that
we fought for.
So thank you for everything.
>> Thank you for remembering
Juneteenth.
GOD bless.
Thank you.
That does conclude public
comment here in council
chambers going to those
participating remotely.
We have one person in the queue
right now Blair Beekman If you
can please unmute and let me
know which item or items you
wish to speak to.
All right.
We're Beekman.
I wanted to speak to item 3032
and ask the 5 or 3.
>> Please proceed.
Actually please do not proceed.
We do have Robin Todd also that
wanted to speak on this.
Robin Todd, I'll be coming back
to you for your speaking on
items 503 You you'll have one
minute Please proceed.
Good morning City Council.
My name is Robin Todd.
I'm a field representative for
Assemblymember DR. Sharp
Collins of the 79th Assembly
District.
I'm here today to thank
the city to San Diego City
Council for recognizing
Juneteenth JUNE 19th as a day
of reflection and celebration.
It serves as a reminder of
struggles and sacrifice where
our ancestors is but also a
source of enormous pride in
the Brazilian.
Let us use this opportunity to
celebrate our history and and
strength, achievements and
contributions of our ancestors.
Thank you again for bringing
this forward.
>> And then Lauren Cobbs.
Hello everyone.
My name is Lauren Cobbs and
the founder of sd Melanin and I
just want to say thank you for
your support and providing
space for national Juneteenth
celebrations here in San Diego
.
So we've been creating
experiences for our community
to celebrate Juneteenth since
2018 and we're just really
honored and really blessed to
be able to provide this And
thank you for the support of
Juneteenth.
Thank you.
That does now include public
comment here in council
chambers.
So during the five minute timer
Blair Beckman if you can please
unmute again and you'll have
three minutes.
Please proceed.
>> All right.
We're Beakman again.
I traveled out to Cooma this
week and I'll be staying here
and so my zoom MAY be off and
on sometimes and that be why
it's happening It it's the case
but it's really nice here by
the way Very nice mineral ponds
they have here for swimming
It's really interesting Human
park I wanted to comment I
guess I had three items to
start with Item 32 in
the middle of Haitian flag Day
An interesting item to have.
Thank you.
I think we all can very much
respect what Haitian culture
adds to our world basically and
thank you for public comment to
question the Flag Day itself.
But interestingly I think that
Flag Day in the very least can
be able having it here can at
least allow us to ask those
questions that were asked today
and in that sense we can have a
more open broad conversation
and thanks for
the conversation.
We had other items 5 or 3
Juneteenth 2026 day Thank you
for this and for the history
lesson I learned today.
It was it was explained very
nicely how to consider a sense
of freedom even when yeah
there's freedoms available even
when we don't think we have
them And it's nice that we
acknowledge that that we can
work for a sense of what our
better selves are and a look
how we can find that and how
that relates to the Jewish
American Heritage Month.
We're at an important time in
San Diego and across
the country how to address our
relationship between Israel and
the Middle East and and what's
that relationship with America
And I think we're learning and
San Diego important lessons
over things like the ira
contract that was recently
the item we had yesterday at
Council on Somali issues.
>> People are being feeling
fearful of their own belief
systems and need help And I
hope in San Diego we can learn
to take that is not flattery
but a real process of working
together towards answers And I
hope people with the ira issues
can be open to suggestions and
ideas and that we build it as a
form of democracy.
>> You know in San Diego and I
know that it's uncomfortable to
people of the Jewish faith
right now to work towards
the concepts that are called
democracy because it often
involves a lot of good Muslim
ideas and Muslim input.
>> But I hope that that's our
that's a good point here in
America what we can do together
and that I think can give great
examples to Israel for
the future what we can do well
here together in this country.
So I hope we work on ira things
work on its language is needed
as a poor community.
>> It also has concluded
Kathleen Lippert, if you can
please unmute and then Judy
Strong Thank you.
>> Good morning, Counsel.
It is important to recognize
all groups have members who are
I'm sorry what items are items
that you want to speak to?
>> Oh 3031 And that's final
three.
>> Okay.
Thank you.
Please proceed.
>> It is important to recognize
that all groups have members
who are unethical and immoral
but there are always good
people within those groups.
Jews have contributed greatly
despite contributions
representing a very small
number of their population 40%
of Nobel laureates in
economics, 26% in physiology
but 24 in physics.
DR. Ito for Eckert though was
one of the most important
the Hungarian born Jewish
Holocaust survivor.
She became renowned
psychologist, celebrated for
her expertise on trauma,
recovery and resilience for
those suffering from ptsd Of
all origins, her philosophy
from which we all can benefit
was that suffering is
inevitable.
Victimization is a choice.
She asserted that people can
heal by letting go of hatred.
She died this last APRIL.
>> Her memoir The Choice is her
journey from Ashridge to find
freedom in her mind And it is a
powerful message for all of us
today regarding s five o three
Juneteenth I agree with
the earlier comment that it is
important to recognize
the rights we have and
celebrate reminders to
telegraph those rights.
>> Sometimes we are not aware
of them, sometimes we make
false assumptions and so
clarifying the record is indeed
important And regarding I am 31
five decades of Scottish
heritage tradition music but
Scottish contributions were
also for us philosophers
discoveries Adam Smith,
Alexander Graham Bell James
Kurt Maxwell, Robert Burns.
Lois Robert Louis Stevenson.
Sir Walter Scott That was it.
And James Clerk Maxwell All of
us all of our individual
populations have such
remarkable people like these.
We should never broad brush
each other.
It is an unfair It's very
unfair.
Okay.
Thank you.
That's all I want to say.
>> Thank you, Judy.
Strange if you can please
unmute.
>> Good morning.
I'm just speaking to item 31.
Thank you.
Felt as a strain by marriage
that I had to salute also
the Scottish tradition of
dancing and singing and having
a good time.
They are deeply known for their
fierce patriotism and the rich
storytelling and they are
famous for an adventure.
One was mentioned previously
that I also would add
the telephone by Alexander
Graham Bell the television by
John Logie vide and penicillin.
My husband the pharmacist
reminds me discovered by Sir
Alexander Fleming and of course
the steam engine that changed
the West developed by James
Watt.
Thanks for this opportunity to
call attention to the mix of
people we have across
the United States that come
from countries that have
wonderful traditions that
enriched us all when they
brought them here to America.
>> Thank you.
Thank you.
That does include public
comment on the proclamation
thanking us for that.
>> All right.
Thank you for the carcass.
I'll turn it over to my council
colleagues for comments and
entertain a motion.
>> We'll start with Council
member Campbell Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT I would first
like to make a motion that we
pass all the proclamations I'd
like to speak about item 30 as
five of three and item 31
briefly on item 31 since I am a
Campbell a huge clan in
Scotland even though I married
the name I am just delighted
with being a Campbell And so I
want to thank you for that
proclamation and enjoy
the Highland Games.
I'd like to speak also on
Juneteenth.
It's so important that we
remember forever that day.
This reminds me of Passover.
We Jewish people celebrate our
liberation from Egypt Slavery
back thousands of years when
Moses led us out of slavery And
I, I think of the of
the spiritual go down Moses I
think of the connection between
black people and Jewish people
and there were many black
people who actually are Jewish.
And I'm just so honored that we
are celebrating Juneteenth And
let us never forget that day
ever.
A thousand years from now let
us all celebrate Juneteenth.
It's so important to remember
And I also want to speak on
item 30.
Jewish American Heritage Month
was last month in MAY but we
had so many breaks that we were
able to give this proclamation
at that time.
This is a time when we honor
the Jewish-American community
which has been in America since
the very beginning of our
nation.
Judaism teaches us nothing of
what that person spoke of.
That is a lie and that is
completely anti-Semitic and
wrong and incorrect.
The Jewish religion teaches us
that we are all one people all
of us.
Shamar I Israel on an oil here
of Israel The Lord is one
The Jewish people brought
the concept of one GOD to
the world.
It is our responsibility as
Jews and as all of us to care
for our communities and to
uplift each other.
When a Jewish synagogue in
Patchway was targeted in 2019
resulting in one woman who had
died from her injuries and
three other people injured, all
the San Diego residents of all
backgrounds and faiths came
around the Jewish community and
helped including the Muslims.
And last month our city in our
city three men were murdered at
the Islamic Center of San Diego
in a hate crime just because
they are of the Muslim
religion.
This is so wrong.
And remember that Judaism is a
religion not a race.
All races contain Jewish people
.
It is an ancient ancient
religion and it is religion
that respects all of our
brothers and sisters and
teaches us that everyone is a
brother and sister.
The Golden Rule All of these
things came from Judaism and we
support our Muslim brothers and
sisters and I want to say that
you should not conflate
the Jewish people of America
with Israel.
We have nothing to do with
the political system or
the problems in Israel.
We are Americans and we believe
in the separation of church and
state And I believe if they did
that they'd be better off.
But that's my opinion because
I'm an American and that's what
we practice here.
I think I'm about six seventh
generation and we go way
further back to So let us not
forget that American Jews are
American than American Blacks
are American.
We are all Americans and we are
living we are living our
freedom.
So thank you so much for all of
these proclamations.
Remember that hate prejudice,
hate speech has no place in
this city.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you, council members.
And we do have a motion by
Council member Campbell to move
the proclamation items forward
And we'll go next to
Councilmember camp You Thank
you council PRESIDENT Second
the motion and thank you
members of the public for their
participation today and for
coming down to City Hall.
I'm proud to join my colleagues
in recognizing Jewish American
heritage Month and celebrating
the countless contributions of
Jewish Americans who made our
city and our country an amazing
place.
Council District seven is home
to vibrant Jewish communities,
particularly in Del Cerro.
We have three important
congregations Temple Emanuel
out of East County and
Congregation to Earth Israel
and soon moving to San Carlos
is Temple Beth Jacob as well
And of course these
institutions help strengthen
our neighborhoods through
worship and education,
community service and cultural
leadership.
And I just want just four of
many, many Jewish institutions
around our city.
They're doing amazing work And
so I'm very proud to bring that
forward with my colleagues.
I'm also proud to join
Councilmember Whitman in
recognizing San Diego Scottish
Highland Games.
They celebrate the many
individuals and organizations
who help put that longstanding
tradition together and make it
possible here in San Diego and
members of the public who said
all of the contributions of
Scotland and Scottish people to
the world events like these
bring people together and
strengthen community
connections and highlight
the rich cultural diversity
that makes San Diego such a
special place.
So I want to thank everyone
involved for their dedication
and volunteerism and continued
contributions to our city.
And I'd like to finally thank
my colleagues for bringing
forward the proclamation for
Juneteenth as we honor
the resilience and achievements
and enduring contributions of
African Americans while
reflecting on the significance
of freedom and the ongoing
pursuit of equality.
Even to today, the members of
the public who are here today
said it better than I could.
But I do definitely want to
thank in particular the Cooper
family for their longstanding
recognition of this tradition
well before governments
recognized it here in San Diego
and across our country.
So I thank them in particular.
Finally just recognizing this
day helped ensure the lessons
of the history continue to
inform our efforts to build
the inclusive future that I
know we all want and are all
trying to achieve.
>> So thank you very much
Council PRESIDENT And I
conclude my second.
All right.
>> Thank you sir.
So we have a motion by Council
member Campbell second by
Council member Carpio to move
the proclamations and with that
will go to Council member
Whipper Thank you Council
PRESIDENT Thank you to Council
PRESIDENT PRESIDENT Lee and
Councilmembers Foster Brito and
Isla Rivera bringing forward
the proclamation recognizing
Juneteenth 2026 day we
celebrate the resilience
contributions and enduring
legacy of black Americans here
in San Diego across our country
as we honor this important day
and reflect on our history, we
also reaffirm our commitment to
advancing opportunity, equity
and justice for all.
And thank you to council
members Foster de la Rivera for
bringing forward
the proclamation ordering
Haitian flag Day San Diego's
Haitian community is a vital
and vibrant part of the fabric
of our city today we celebrate
not only a flag but a legacy of
resilience and pride and
incredible contributions to our
shared hope.
I'm pleased to join
Councilmembers Cabo Carpio
Ariela Rivera recognizing
Jewish American Heritage Month.
It's an opportunity not only to
celebrate the Jewish
communities contributions to
the community but also to
reflect on the importance of
protecting religious freedom,
diversity and human dignity At
a time when anti-Semitism
continues to rise.
It is important that we stand
with our Jewish community that
against hatred in all of its
forms.
And finally happy to join
Councilmember Carpio and
Councilmember Campbell in
bringing forward San Diego
Scottish Highland Games Day
recognizes an organization that
has spent more than five
decades celebrating Scottish
culture and traditions and
heritage in our region.
Since its a corporation in 1974
the San Diego Scottish Highland
Games has grown into one of
the region's largest cultural
festivals bringing together an
average of 17,000 attendees
each year.
As we heard earlier from
Stephen Laddie, the Chieftain
of the San Diego Scottish
Highland Games, the festival
celebrates many aspects of
Scottish heritage and
tradition.
Here's what ran out before he
had a chance to finish his
remarks but he did provide
the rest of his comments to us
up here.
It goes on to say that quote
For education purposes we have
whiskey tasting for education
purposes.
I'm sure where you will learn
how the water at the peat
flavors, the barley and how
eating a different previously
used oak barrels changes
the notes and the aromas of
the grain.
So if you're interested in
attending for educational
purposes, this year's Highland
Games will take place on
Saturday, JUNE 20th and Sunday
JUNE 21st at Bishop Valley
River Park.
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
All right.
Thank you Council member
Whitburn Not anybody else
Council member Isla Rivera
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT All right.
Before I speak to some of
the specific proclamations I
want acknowledge why a couple
of them are here today rather
than last month.
Council member Campbell alluded
to this as well.
We postpone two of these
proclamations out of respect to
make room for the community to
grieve after the shooting of
the Islamic center And so to
our Jewish and Asian
communities.
I appreciate your patience,
grace and understanding your
willingness to wait so we can
hold space for another group's
pain reflects the values that
we aiming to honor here today.
And I think that there is a
thread that I see in in
the Haitian flag
the Proclamation Jewish
American Heritage Month
Proclamation and Juneteenth
Proclamation and that's that
liberation is not given through
words alone.
It's one and it takes work.
Haitian Flag Day marks
the birth of a flag that was
stitched together by people who
refuse to remain in chains
The people who wage the only
successful slave revolution to
founded free nation and built
the first black republic in
the world.
Their freedom was not granted
to them.
They took it And that same
spirit I'm proud to see it
growing here in San Diego and
in my district which is home to
a growing Haitian community
whose faith, resilience and
contributions are making our
city stronger.
I want to say thank you to
leaders like Pastor Johnson who
carry that legacy forward in
our neighborhoods and show so
much support for other
communities as well.
Jewish American Heritage Month
honors the people my people
whose own story begins with
liberation and who carry an
enduring commitment to repair
what's broken in the world.
That part of that heritage is
the part that I hold closest
and takes pride in and has
demonstrated itself in multiple
ways throughout the years from
Ruth Ginsburg and her long
successful fight to expand
the promise of equality to
women to the Freedom Summer in
1964 where two young Jewish
activists Andrew Goodman and
Michael Schwerner were murdered
in Mississippi alongside their
black colleague James Chaney
for the work of registering
black Americans to vote.
They did side by side in
the same cause fighting for
liberation and freedom and
America.
Well, thank you for your
comments about making this
about Jewish American Heritage
Month.
That's what this is about.
But then also the country Jews
here in America and
the contributions that are made
.
And finally I'll turn to
Juneteenth which might be
the most powerful reminder of
all of that notion that
liberation is not given through
words.
The Emancipation Proclamation
was historic and necessary, but
a proclamation is words and
words on a page in outbreak
The Chains of For more than
two years after it was signed,
people in Texas remained
enslaved until troops reached
Galveston and did the work of
carrying that freedom into into
the world and enforcing it.
Freedom declared is not
the same as freedom delivered.
This is the tension woven into
our nation since its founding
The space between the promises
that were written on paper and
the freedom the people are
actually living.
We declare that all people are
created equal while millions
were held in.
Closing that gap has been an
ongoing effort and it has
required people willing to do
the work.
So with all three of these
proclamations they certainly
are a reason to celebrate but
they're also a reason to
recommit to the work of freedom
.
Thank you, Council PRESIDENT
All right.
Thank you, Council member La
Rivera.
We'll go next to Councilmember
Moreno.
Thank you.
I'd like to take this
opportunity to congratulate all
the recipients of proclamations
today.
I do have comments on item as
5o3 which is Juneteenth 2020
sixth day.
It's an honor to join council
member Foster Council member
Ella Rivera and Council member
Lee in recognizing an important
moment in our nation's history
and also to reflect on
the significance of Juneteenth.
Juneteenth reminds us of
the perseverance and resilience
of the black community and also
the long struggle to ensure
that freedom and equal rights
were not only promised but
actually made a reality.
We honor those who continue to
advocate for justice even after
emancipation was declared.
Recognizing that progress often
requires more than the passage
of a law, One of the lessons
Juneteenth teaches us is that
policy is not enough.
Meaningful change requires
implementation, accountability
and enforcement.
And as public servants we have
a responsibility to ensure that
the commitments we make are
carried out in a way that
delivers real results for
the communities that we serve.
I'm proud to recognize
Juneteenth and the ongoing
contributions of the Black
community to our city, to our
state and to our nation.
I did see sd Mellon here Women
of Color Wore and the Cooper
Family Foundation.
I have been a strong supporter
of the Cooper Family Foundation
that will be celebrating its
would you say 50th anniversary
over the 55 year anniversary
JUNE 20th at Memorial Park in
District eight.
I do want to tied in with our
budget that we just passed.
Every single year we allocate
funding to Juneteenth
celebration because I recognize
the importance that that
celebration has not only to
the to the black community but
also to the District eight
community just in general.
I think if MR. Sidney Cooper
were to go out and go out this
Saturday he would just be blown
away by by community coming
together and also by the fact
that you guys still give out
free lunches to kids.
That is powerful and profound
and all the family activities
that are free and are available
to the residents.
So tying it back to the budget
this council did restore hcf
funding So we will be there one
more year.
>> And thank you guys for what
you do.
I know it is a it is a quite
quite a event, right?
It's a lot.
So thank you for what you do
and and for what a lot of folks
in this room do and I'm sorry
if I didn't recognize you but
Cooper families And so I will
always uplift the event.
But with that council PRESIDENT
I am happy to support
the motion before us today.
>> Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
Council member Randolph will go
to Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
Lee then Council PRESIDENT And
thank you to my colleagues for
a number of recognitions today.
Starting off with Jewish
American Heritage Month I do
want to thank my colleagues
especially Councilmember Rivera
and Council member Campbell for
taking a moment to move this
recognition Given
the circumstances of the last
month and still taking this
opportunity to recognize our
Jewish American community here
in San Diego.
Thank you for the recognition
of the Haitian Flag Day as well
.
And Council member Whitburn,
you had me at Educational.
Thank you for that and best
wishes as you put on
the Scottish Highland Games.
I'll speak to items 5 or 3 and
I'm honored to join
Councilmembers Foster Moreno
and Rivera to proclaim
Juneteenth in the city of San
Diego and recognize this
important moment in our
nation's history.
We all know the history of why
Juneteenth has come to be and I
think what it serves to this
day is a reminder of the path
to liberation even when delayed
can be achieved through
the enduring power of
resistance and resilience and
the recognition of Juneteenth
as a federal holiday in 2021
certainly represented an
important acknowledgment of a
chapter of American history
that has too often been
forgotten not forgotten but
perhaps overlooked.
And I think we especially need
to think now.
County Supervisor Monica
Montgomery for helping to bring
this forward at that time to
ensure that the city of San
Diego also recognized
Juneteenth as an official
holiday to the stage and
invites us to celebrate
the strength, leadership and
countless contributions of
black Americans reminds us that
history has to be recognized
and learn from And it's a
challenge I think to this day
for us to grapple with
the pains of that history and
to also make amends not just as
a society, as a country but
also in the ways that we can
here at the city of San Diego.
So certainly I look forward not
only to celebrating Juneteenth
with many of you but to
continue using that as an
opportunity to remind of
the continual work when it
comes to delivering justice
within our communities.
Thank you Council for All
right.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
We'll go next to Council member
Foster Yes thank you.
>> Council PRESIDENT And just
thank you to my colleagues for
all of the proclamations and
the recognition you know,
Jewish American Heritage Month.
Just thank you for being in
this forward Again, as you have
heard from my colleagues, you
know, with the time that we are
in, I think we need to do
everything we can to uplift and
to celebrate once the heritage
culture and things of the sort
And thank you to the Jewish
American community for all
their contributions to this
city of San Diego.
Asian flag Day.
I'm proud to bring this
proclamation forward along with
my colleague council member
Sean Isla Rivera.
But I just want everyone to
understand this is about
recognizing a day rooted in
freedom, rooted in unity, in
the belief that dignity belongs
to everyone.
And I must say I'm a little
appalled that we have to hear
comments about bringing an item
such as Haitian flag Day to be
recognized.
And so I just want to make sure
that with the Haitian community
just thank you for everything
that you do your contribution
to the city of San Diego and
thank you for continuing to
share your culture to to share
what unity is, how important it
is to unify as a people and to
make sure our future
generations understand
the significance and understand
the traditions, the practices
of one's culture.
So thank you for that
Juneteenth 2026 Day Thank you
to the Cooper family for
everything that you do And I'll
say this there in District
eight there's a reason they're
in District eight.
That's where we were allowed to
live.
So I want to make sure everyone
understands that as we talk
about these significance of
Juneteenth And I'm a young man
then I've said this before on
this dais that attended Hampton
University for five years every
day every day I saw
the Emancipation Oak.
Every time I go back to this
day I go to that location and I
remember my time at Hampton.
>> I remember what I learned
about the importance and
the significance of that Oak
tree And here we are today to
continue to celebrate.
And for me this is about
resolve.
This is about taking a moment
to celebrate black greatness,
to celebrate that no matter
what has happened to us, no
matter what we continue to go
through, we can take time out
to celebrate us, to look at
each other and say I love you.
Things will get better.
We will make sure things get
better because no one's going
to take better care of us than
us.
So thank you for those
continued efforts.
Thank you for continuing to
reflect on the significance of
the black community to
the success of the city of San
Diego.
It's one of the reasons we
established the San Diego Black
Arts and Culture District.
I truly believe there would be
no San Diego if it were not for
the contributions of black
Americans to the City of San
Diego.
So thank you so much.
Let's continue to celebrate.
But let's also make sure we
have a lot of work to do Also I
just have to to close with
this.
And I would need just a little
more time when that alarm goes
off.
The past few months have been
very, very difficult.
We have seen hate and we have
seen it consistently.
And one thing that we cannot do
and one thing that we must not
do is fall subject to
the divisiveness and the hate
that is coming from
the PRESIDENT Of the United
States and the White House.
We cannot allow that to happen.
That is not San Diego.
When we talk about progress,
the civil right the Civil
Rights Act of 1964 is under
attack.
It is under continued attack.
The Voting Rights Act of 1965.
If you hear what is being said,
it is being said people of
color.
They do not want us to vote.
We cannot force subject to this
rhetoric and this hate coming
to this Dyess or coming to give
comment and to have
the audacity to tell a culture
that they should not celebrate
their flag.
That is wrong.
We start every meeting in this
chambers during the Pledge of
Allegiance with all of its
flaws that the United States of
America has.
>> We were founded on what I
feel is one of the most
probably the most egregious
acts in this world.
We are still feeling
the impacts today.
>> We are 5% of the population
in the city of San Diego but we
make up 30% of the homeless
population.
I have our board of trustees
here today.
Sharon Whitehurst Payne with
San Diego Unified School
District.
She has to fight every day to
get the resources to get
the attention that our young
students need to learn how to
read and write.
We were told we had no business
understanding how to read and
write.
>> To this day we just went
through a $6 billion budget and
we have to fight to keep
libraries open.
Why are we fighting to keep an
institution where we learn,
learn how to read, learn how to
write, learn how to prepare our
young folks to be successful in
this very, very challenging
world that we call the United
States of America.
And I know we are here to
celebrate.
We're going to do a flag
raising for Juneteenth.
I'm going to be out at
the Cooper Family Foundation.
I invite everyone to the city
of San Diego, the county of San
Diego Come and celebrate
Juneteenth.
Come and celebrate Black
Independence Day and come and
understand what it looks like
when we love on one another
when we celebrate family, when
we can take all that bad and
set it to the side for the day
and say we are good people.
We are a value we have
contributed to this United
States of America.
And I think it's something that
we all need to continue to
strive.
And I will say this and I
appreciate the proclamation but
some time has passed where
the state of California took
some time out to put together
the reparations task force.
It was groundbreaking work.
It set the path forward.
But we need to make sure that
we not only look at that
document that we don't only sit
here and acknowledge days such
as Juneteenth or the Haitian
Flag Day.
We need to do more.
We need to take action.
And we need to actually correct
the harm.
And everyone needs to
understand that and hear that.
And again, we need to fight
hate.
Hate has no place No place in
this city of San Diego.
And no one should feel that
they are unsafe based on
the color of their skin or
their religious beliefs and who
they are.
But we must be respectful so we
can agree to disagree.
But we must be respectful.
And so with that council
PRESIDENT That will conclude my
comments.
Again, thank you for everyone
to the public for coming out.
Let's make sure we take some
time out to celebrate all these
significant proclamations and
let's be the best San Diego
that we can be.
Let's not fight each other.
Let's embrace our diversity.
Let's embrace our culture.
Be truly want this to be
the greatest city.
We must do better.
We must must do better.
And we must open our arms and
we must receive our brothers
and sisters.
And we must celebrate each
other.
And we must uplift and support
each other.
So thank you, Council PRESIDENT
.
>> I will conclude there.
All right.
Thank you, sir.
You asked for more time.
>> I give you three minutes
Used used up very, very well.
>> All wrap things up.
Thank you to my colleagues for
bringing forth these
proclamations that celebrate
who we are as San Diego and
the diversity that makes our
city special.
And to those of you who showed
up for the first time perhaps
the only time and spoke from
the heart about a proclamation
that meant something to you
whether it's your nationality,
your belief, your cultural
heritage.
Thank you for taking the time
to come out and share your
thoughts or feelings with us
this morning.
So with that we have a motion
by Councilmember Campbell and a
second by council member come
here to move the proclamations.
Clerk Please call the roll.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT I'm sorry
The voting system Please cast
your vote and that passes
unanimously 7 to 0 with council
member Marnie, one of Oprah and
Councilmember Campbell absent.
>> Thank you, Council
PRESIDENT.
All right.
Thank you.
With that we will now pause for
photos and we will start with
sw 503 Juneteenth 2026 Day
and then
All right as a friendly rule
reminder to our colleagues
we're going to go to do
the consent item.
Some of the items require six
votes.
I'm not telling you how to vote
but we need to hold There's
only six of us left.
So if there's any no pressure
But we do We need to have at
least six votes six individuals
here with the possibility of
the votes not telling you how
to vote.
So we will now proceed with
the approval of the consent
items.
Are there any requests to pull
an item?
Yes, there are.
>> There is item If we could
get a presentation on item as
5a1 the proposed fiscal year 27
rec center fund Budget
opportunity Fund budget and
2025 complete outside report
please.
Okay So we'll do the consent
items and then we'll hear here
that item next not see any
other requests.
Clerk Please proceed with
public comment on the consent
item.
Think on the remainder of
the consent item.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT If I can have
Jacob Lewis Edwards please come
up to the front.
After that we have Maximillian
Schmidt allegedly Audra and
then Anthony Dang Joyce
Kenyatta.
Claudia Rodriguez.
Jocelyn Estrada and Sherry
Jones.
If you can all please come
forward to the front row that
would really facilitate meeting
management.
Now you're speaking on three
items Jacob so you'll have
three minutes 5121 Please
proceed.
Thank you very much.
I'd like to start by thanking
our council one again Campbell
for comments about the anti
Semitic rhetoric in chambers
that are free speech is
important and we have the right
to speak out against such
rhetoric.
Thank you to her for that and
thank you for Council Foster's
comments.
He couldn't have said it any
better.
I was that was amazing how he
put that.
No I'm going to speak up on
the consent agenda items.
All these agenda items we go
over are very important.
However I think that we could
put agenda items forth to
confront some serious stuff.
It was years ago my mom's
brother Danny Tyler's position
at the Department of Homeland
Security was hijacked by
the Italian mafia that led to
them hijacking our federal
government and the agencies.
I was encouraging the Costa
Nostra over a year ago.
Please hand the keys back.
This could be your demise as
well that a foreign country or
adversary could capitalize on
this And that was what was
transpiring the entire time.
Chinese espionage was on it
from the jump for what's going
on now, what it's led to is
genocide.
The Federal Reserve families of
China a lot of money to settle
their debt.
They cut a deal with China that
they can't take our government
and our country over And upon
that agreement to eliminate
profiles of folks the Chinese
do not want the best to
the best of our country So
their best of the best can
swoop in.
It's completely unacceptable.
We stand up for ourselves.
We stand up for each other and
we stand up for our country.
I want you to check out
the YouTube clip this posted
under Jacob Edwards speaks for
I spoke right here at this
microphone.
What has transpired since
the deal that the Federal
Reserve families cut with
the Chinese?
It's completely unacceptable in
this country I take the coast
to coast for would even agree
and I, I think I still
encourage them to step back,
fight with us and let's all
work together was work together
that the Chinese should not
overthrow our government, take
our country over Genocide is
completely unacceptable in this
country.
We stand against it that
everybody needs to work
together, fight for ourselves,
fight for each other and fight
for our country.
I say GOD bless San Diego and
GOD bless the United States of
America.
>> Think I'm supposed to speak
in public comment but I'm going
to refrain And you all have
Maximilian Schmidt You're
speaking on items 100 106 and
107 Hi.
>> I researched approval of
the fiscal year 27 San Diego
Tourism Marketing District
Report of Activities and $5,656
million of our tax dollars are
being used to try to encourage
support develop tourism in San
Diego And I just wanted to say
that nowhere do they support
maybe Christian tourism because
i know San Diego has a long
history of Catholic missions
and beautiful Christian
churches all across San Diego
and I thought maybe we're going
to have a Jewish Heritage Month
and a Haitian Flag Day and
Juneteenth.
Maybe we could do something for
Christianity instead Everyone
talks about hate speech and
the and the truth is they're
trying to tie the word
Christian into the word hate
speech by calling us white
Christian nationalists And I'm
supposed to be and they're
going to probably call me
nationalist just because I said
I don't support Haitian Flag
Day because it's the most
corrupt country on in
the entire Western Hemisphere
thus has the poorest people's
population in the Western
Hemisphere And then we have a
whole day commemorated they
said for thousands and
thousands of years.
Let us commemorate the Haitian
flag on this special day.
And it's also I'm sorry it's
the communist government too
And I feel like there's
communist elements to San
Diego's on to San Diego to for
example a neural linguistic
programing has become a problem
And I hate to say that but it's
true On the San Diego trolley
every time the trolley makes an
announcement it uses neuro
linguistic programing to try to
read my mind and make me
nervous.
It does that because someone
who did pagan rituals and
became telepathic is actually
controlling the trolley.
They'll even slam on the brakes
or accelerate in conjunction
with my movements and they can
do that because the third eye
is real and it's called camping
out in someone's consciousness
so they can literally access
your consciousness and
the trolley driver can drive
the car and it's called
standardization.
He can slow it down and speed
up my movements and in
the trolley intercom So I'm
just saying $56 million that
we're spending on tourism.
Meanwhile we've got the roots
of communism are starting to
grow out of San Diego from
everything from public transit
to walking down the street and
buildings making bizarre high
pitch noises thanks to your
actions.
So $56 million is hard earned
money from that you're taking
from property tax and cannabis
tax from the people of San
Diego You're taking out $56
million and you're trying to
say we want to increase tourism
almost no transparency.
>> The report Meanwhile there's
communism going on in San Diego
Next is allegedly order You're
speaking on several items 5101
or 2 One of I want to wait 191
ten and it's 501 You'll have
three minutes.
>> Please proceed.
Yeah.
I find it interesting that
talking about pedophilia is
considered anti-Semitic and
hate speech and being a victim
of a pedophile for nine years
That's like me talking about It
is hate speech against Bert
Dickerson who did that to me
And it's like not a problem
that those things happen
because those are very true
What I spoke about They do oral
suction on babies who have been
circumcised and how to have sex
with a child a little girl who
is three years old And one day
if they can give consent And so
it's like hateful for me to say
those things.
Yes, I hate pedophilia.
I do as a victim because it
continues and there is no
justice because of things like
this being buried and it being
considered hate speech that I
talk about it And
Jewish-Americans go to Israel
because of the sanctuary for
pedophilia And there's so much
pedophilia that has been
exposed But it's like
acceptable.
Everybody accepts it And it's
like for people who have
children.
But it's so concerning to me
that you would say it's hateful
for me to talk about that when
I think we should to protect
your children from things like
that happening.
It happened to me in a daycare.
I was taken to this house every
day where this man would abuse
me and I called him on
the phone at the police station
when I was 12 years old and got
him to admit it and nothing
happened because the judge said
that if when I said he said
what do you think should
happen?
>> I said you know what?
I think he should go to jail
for a year.
That sounded like a really long
time as a 12 year old And he
said that he would be worse off
if he went to jail.
Yeah, he probably did Good Then
he won't abuse any more
children like he continues to
do for the last 30 something
years because of like this.
>> And for those of you have
children shame on you for
calling that hate speech
because I feel like that is
hate speech to victims for
going Why is this acceptable?
>> Why can people stand in a
crowd of people and watch a man
a little boy's spit it a clap
and celebrate it all that comes
off of this kind of evil and
that is why we are supposed to
repent but not go into it and
accept it and like brush it
under the rug when we have
children and we just basically
play Russian roulette with them
and these people run rampant
because of this our time is
supported.
>> Anthony Doing your speaking
on item 100 you have a minute?
>> Please proceed.
Thank you.
Good morning.
My name is Anthony Dana.
>> I'm the Climate Action
Campaign.
We're building an affordable
100% clean and reliable energy
future so you can already pay
the highest electricity rates
in the nation of $0.45 per
kilowatt hour which is more
than two times the national
average with a typical monthly
bill of over $300 for a single
family home heating squeezed by
the affordability crisis at
every corner as you need to
support a general rate case
request yesterday afternoon
requesting 3.8 billion starting
in 2028.
If approved this would add an
extra $22.48 per month on
the average family's gas and
electric bill.
That is almost an additional
$270 a year Every single family
would be handing over to
Jeannie.
That's exactly excuse me that's
exactly why today's energy
affordability and
accountability resolution
matters And we hope that
the full council can pass this
resolution.
>> Thank you, Joyce.
Other please come forward.
You'll have three minutes to
speak on 101, two, four.
One, two, 31251502.
Please proceed.
Thank you.
Just quickly thank you for
the dignity of listening.
It was very beautiful.
Very beautiful.
Okay, I have a bunch of them
and they're not going to be in
order.
Sorry about that.
Most of them are so on 100.
Well this is exciting.
Ten bills addressing utility
affordability.
I mean this is a happy moment
or what And for DR. Campbell
because she spoke of the cpu
you see an affordability on
the rates It's changing folks
There's an article in the u-t
on that I forgot to bring it
and read it but there's changes
happening in the cpu, see which
is going to really help
affordability on rates for
the labor agreement with meaa
and the union the good faith
negotiate ation process.
I love those words So a big
thank you for the excellent
leadership of Michael Jacquet
and the rest of his team.
They're absolute really
important and what they do is
so it just helps all of us.
So along with that labor item
there's one, two, three and as
five of five which is deputy
city attorneys and the afscme,
it's a long wording there.
I want to say to everybody
the unions I love you, we need
you.
You're just a part of our
the fabric of our city.
You're a powerful force.
So now that your process is
coming to a close, we need you
to jump on board in another
way.
You need to help us with our
budget and all other areas.
We really need your help to
help us figure out with our
priorities and where we're
heading with that.
Okay.
Thank you.
Thank you and love you for that
extra help on one of those
seven the tmd the last time
they presented to us and they
talked about storytelling I
just loved it.
I couldn't believe that tmb
uses storyteller for their
marketing tool so I really like
the tmd.
We're a tourist community and
we really rely on them so I
thank them very much.
And then on 5502a big yes to
the c p p.
S funding for cd4 That's an
underserved community.
We are doing better.
Hey folks, this is life right
here And isn't it beautiful And
we're doing it together And I
am so honored to be here with
you celebrating the miracle
that life itself is Love you
all Claudia Rodriguez This
can't be the last.
>> You'll have one minute.
>> Please proceed.
Thank you.
Good morning.
Honorable council members.
My name's Claudia Rodriguez
Blonsky and I'm a resident and
small business owner in Barrio
Logan in District eight Oh.
I runs a local sustainable
fashion studio on Logan Avenue
where we teach sewing,
celebrate local culture and
create handmade garments that
tell stories of our community
Visitors to center You will
find our way to our businesses
like ours and when they do it
matters.
Currently I'm currently part of
a 2026 cohort for the San Diego
Tourism accelerated Program
which gives us real tools to
grow and connect with our wider
audience.
This program exists because of
tmd funding allocated to
the tourism authority.
I urge the city to approve
the Team Dee's proposed budget
It supports not just the big
hotels but small business
communities rooted businesses
That makes you worth visiting.
Thank you.
>> Thank you.
Jocelyn Estrada Hello.
Good morning Honorable
COUNCILMAN.
My name is Joseph Estrada in a
resident and business owner in
District four I only cut some
cake and dessert This is called
We've cut out microns in water
and investments in attracting
visitors to San Diego directly
benefit local businesses like
me.
Not only do we benefit from
the visitors who come and spend
money, we also feel supported
by the tourism industry itself
.
We're currently a part of
the County Tourism Authority
accelerator program and that
program among other efforts is
made possible because of
the tourism marketing district
funds that are allotted to San
Diego Tourism Authority.
So I hope that the city
approves of this proposed
budget to keep bringing
the tourists and Diego and
supporting our local small
businesses like myself.
Thank you.
And Sherry Jones also one of
the other good morning council
members How many mystery Jones
and I'm a resident and business
owner in District four and
the co-founder co-founder of
Black Eagle, a nonprofit
dedicated to connecting
residents and visitors with
the black with black owned
businesses, cultural events and
community experiences
throughout any accounting over
the past decade Black Bendigo
has grown into a platform that
reaches nearly 50,000 community
members and visitors while
helping to spotlight more than
600 black owned businesses to
our region.
We are currently participating
in the annual tourism Authority
Accelerator program which is
helping us better understand
how to connect visitors with
rich culture experiences, small
businesses and communities and
makes indigo such a special
destination Investment into
attracting visitors will
benefit local businesses and
organizations like the ones we
support when visitors come to
our city they spend money at
local restaurants, shops,
hotels, attractions and events.
We appreciate the city and
continue a partnership within
tourism and help you.
>> Thank you.
That does include public
comment here in council
chambers Are the five minute
timer going to those
participating remotely starting
with Slurpee?
>> Come in if you can please
let me know.
>> All right.
But clarification please let me
know which item or items you
wish to speak to.
>> Yeah I have several 5101 or
2 123124125107I think And then
ask 500 thinking I have three
minutes Please proceed.
>> Yeah Thank you.
I'm going to the first item
item 100 Senate bills according
Addressing Utility
Affordability Accountability
I'm hopeful this item you know
it's good that it's doing well
Address the future of community
energy and that even though
we've had recent conversations
community energy is still about
ten years away really
functioning well in San Diego.
Can we start making the steps
now and just make that a
regular conversation in our
energy dialog?
>> I hope we can do that.
You will all feel better I
think by doing that and to go
on to item 1 or 2 Council San
Diego County detention
facilities this was an item
brought to committee a few
weeks ago.
Councilperson Whitburn actually
asked to be nice questions
about that item.
I hope that's being better
addressed as there is a
significant number of deaths
happening in our county
detention facilities each year.
What are we doing to address
that?
It has to be worked on.
Santa Clara has been having
similar problems.
Can we put our two minds
together to work on these
things?
We should be able to come up
with solutions and good luck
how we can Going on two items
1033104 These are tentative
agreements with employee
associations I've said
previously it MAY be too late
now I hope you can still
consider the idea that you can
actually take some very small
pay cut whatever small pay cut
you take as employees of
the city and city council.
Perkins It just is that concept
of building trust with
the community and good faith
efforts And I hope you guys
want to consider life in those
terms And I think it would open
up a better way to look at
the budget issues So I hope I
hope that's a consideration And
believe it or not Oakland
they're having trouble with
their employee issues more than
San Diego So they're not
absolutely perfect in how they
work.
We're looking at in creating a
compromise with Oakland issues
as well I want to fight about i
learned in Oakland over time
issues if we are a Department
of Transportation to work on
traffic citation issues that
can greatly reduce the amount
of effort that's put in by
the police department currently
in Oakland any way on traffic
citation things they put in a
large percentage of what we're
taking on that gridlock how you
can work on that if it's in a
different department of
Transportation if that can help
with overtime issues And you
conclude the issue about our
counterparts in Vancouver is
missing a lot of council
meetings like today also and
it's becoming a bit hurtful.
I really missed her voice and
found a little voice at
the time of the shooting
issues.
I need their voices and good
look how you can appear more
open.
Thank you.
Next is 244461 Phone number
4461 please on you and let me
know which item or items you
wish to speak to.
I for item one seven You'll
have one minute.
Please proceed.
>> Hi.
I'm a product in San Diego.
My name is David and I wanted
to add my support to
the approval of this year's
work with the tmd, the tmd as
the sole source of funding to
market San Diego and keep us at
the top choice for travelers
when they decide where they
want to spend their vacations.
Also for events at&t provides
all of the important marketing
funds that help drive hotel
room nights.
So since sending will benefit
from at&t investment through
the top, the stronger tourism
is the stronger San Diego is.
>> Thank you.
Thank you.
Next is Mark Neville.
If you come please unmute Mark
Neville.
>> Thank you.
And this is for item 107.
Thank you.
Please proceed.
Good morning.
Honorable Council members.
My name is Mark Neville.
I'm the ceo of Sports San
Diego, the nonprofit group
charged with recruiting,
supporting and hosting tourism
driving sports events to our
community.
On behalf of our board of
directors I respectfully urge
your approval of the fiscal
year 2027 tmd report of
Activities and
the authorization of related
expenditures.
As a nonprofit organization
with no other city funding
mechanism, tmd support is
essential to everything we do.
It is what made possible this
week's nascar San Diego weekend
and what brought Manchester
United, the New Zealand All
Blacks and scores of other
world class tourism driving
events to our destination.
There's also what sustains
beloved annual traditions like
the Holiday Bowl and the Rady
Children's Invitational.
These events don't just fill
hotel rooms.
They support jobs, create tax
revenues and fuel small
businesses, restaurants, local
attractions and our broader
economy.
I certainly hope the council
will vote favorably.
Thank you for that concluding
sentence.
Kathleen Lippert, if you can
please unmute and let me know
which item or items you wish to
speak to.
50 and and 50502.
>> Please proceed.
You have two minutes.
I'm sorry I'm burning something
on the stove.
I'm going to have to come back
and apologize.
Okay.
Well your final speaker But you
can always send in comments
That doesn't include public
comment on the consent agenda.
>> All right.
I hope that's okay.
So with that I'll turn it over
to my colleagues for any
questions.
Comments Entertain a motion And
now there we go Councilmember
Yellow again.
We'll start off with you.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT.
I will start by moving approval
of the consent agenda.
Um and just thank you for your
partnership.
Um, on our resolution, um, I'll
keep it short since we're front
and long.
>> Thank you, Council
PRESIDENT.
All right.
Thank you, Chair So we have a
motion by council member Eli
Rivera to move the consent
items except for 5 or 1 which
will be heard next.
And I'll go ahead and I guess
second the motion to move
the consent items.
Just a couple of comments on my
part.
I want to thank you council
member Gloria for bringing
the resolution on item number
100.
The city support of these bills
and our collective advocacy
with our nonprofit partners
including Climate Action
Campaign make sure that we have
a stronger voice in Sacramento.
We are furthering
the conversation around utility
affordability and lowering
the bill for San Diegans.
Then item 1 or 2 I've always
had a question in the back of
my mind about Prop 172 and why
we have to spend our dollars
given how much the county gets
for public safety and based on
the old Prop 172 But I'll leave
that for another day.
So with that not for anybody
else in the life we have a
motion by council member Eli
Rivera.
We have a second by myself to
move the consent items except
for 5 or 1.
>> Clerk Please call the vote
I'm sorry the voting system
Please cast your vote and that
passes unanimously 7 to 0 with
Council Member Final Operating
Council Member Campbell.
Absent Thank you Council
PRESIDENT All right.
Thank you for that and
congratulation to our three
arias We got the memo used on.
And with that we'll invite
staff to come up and make a
presentation on 5 or 1.
But first let me have the city
clerk introduce that item.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT Item 5a1 was
put on the consent agenda and
it is the proposed fiscal year
2027 Recreation Center Fund
Budget Opportunity Fund budgets
and 2025 come play outside
report Thank you Council
PRESIDENT If you'd like to
speak on this item please raise
your hand or submit a speaker
slip now.
>> All right with that please
introduce yourselves for
the record and let us know how
much time you need.
>> Thank you.
My name is Sarah Rizzo.
I'm the deputy director with
the Parks and Recreation
Department.
With me today is Salom\
Martinez, our program equity
manager.
And we will need eight minutes
please.
All right.
When you're ready.
Thank you.
Good.
Good morning.
Today we're here to present
the proposed fiscal year 2027
Recreation Center Fund budgets
as well as the Opportunity Fund
budget and an overview of
the 2025 complete outside
report.
The Department has 62
recreation center funds one for
each recreation center in
addition to one for
the Therapeutic Recreation
Services Program and our Age
Well services program.
We also established an
opportunity fund in 2022
through Council policy 700 Dash
48.
Recreation center funds are
special revenue funds that are
designated to enhance program
offerings across
the communities as well as
community events and minor
maintenance projects.
They supplement basic
recreation services offered
through the general fund.
They are developed each year in
the fall by department site
supervisors with input from
community recreation groups or
in the absence of a community
recreation group.
They provide they seek input
from the public attending their
facilities either through
programs passing by or through
community events.
>> The proposed fiscal year
2027 budget has a range varying
from 23,000 up to a high of
just under 1 million with our
average at $154,000.
These variations occur based on
the amount of activity
occurring at a recreation
center the size and the amount
of space they have available to
permit and or program as well
as the number of parks and
facilities in the community in
which they are permitting
budget revenue generates from
program registration fees
either through cost recoverable
contract services or through
minor fees charged for staff
led programs.
In addition to the permit fees
that I mentioned earlier.
In addition they receive
contributions through
the Opportunity Fund on an
annual basis and MAY do
fundraising through community
events.
Expenses go directly towards
recreation programing.
As I mentioned, contract
service providers, jerseys,
trophies, equipment supplies,
mat etc..
Special events They go towards
vendors, supplies, equipment.
And again those minor
maintenance projects such as
gym floor resurfacing field
maintenance, renovation etc..
This year we are anticipating
having an ending balance in
fiscal year 26 of just over
$9.7 million.
We project revenue in fiscal
year 27 of just over $5.4
million.
This year we did identify
$555,000 in opportunity funds
to allocate which is a 38%
increase from last year And we
are proposing to expend just
over $9.5 million collectively
across all recreation center
funds.
The slide shows a glimpse of
how recreation center funds
have bounced back from
the pandemic.
You'll see on the far left that
was our pandemic year in which
we didn't spend or generate
much funding.
And we are currently at a point
where we have exceeded our
pre-pandemic revenue and
expenditure thresholds.
>> The opportunity fund
allocation process that Leslie
mentioned earlier the fiscal
year 2027 available funds for
allocations $555,000.
That's a 38% increase from f y
26 and is a direct result of
the fee increases that took
place in APRIL of 2025.
In addition to the donations
from the Carmel Valley
Recreation Center Fund of
$25,000 and the Canyon Side
Recreation Center Fund of
$10,000, the Opportunity Fund,
as I mentioned, is governed
through council policies 700
dash 48.
Each year the department
nominates six department staff
to form a committee.
And this year we added our San
Diego Parks Foundation co-chair
to participate in this process.
They review the policy,
the budgets, the proposals,
the methodology, historical
recommendations from
the council and they analyze
through a scoring matrix a
scoring system based on
the available funds of each
recreation center, the proposed
budgets, the proximity of that
recreation center to a
community of concern whether it
being directly in a community
of concern or servicing a
community of concern and if
there's an aquatic facility in
the area that also shares
within those recreation center
funds.
In addition per recommendation
from Council District nine, we
also require that recreation
center funds requesting a fund
from an allocation from
the Opportunity Fund spend
their budget down about down to
$5,000 because that allows for
the opportunity fund to spread
to more facilities and or
provide a larger budget.
This year the Opportunity Fund
Committee was able to identify
14 sites eligible for
allocation with a target of
providing each of them a budget
of $85,000.
This is an increase from last
year where you'll see we were
able to allocate 11 sites a
budget of $65,000 and the year
prior ten sites a budget of
$50,000 And our inaugural year
six sites received $84,000.
So in total since
the opportunity fund was
established, 15 sites that
would be included in this
upcoming budget for fiscal year
will have benefited from
the opportunity funds receiving
over $1.7 million.
I will add the Department has
taken a multi-pronged approach
to establishing funding sources
for sites in underserved
communities whether that be
through the opportunity fund,
through grants and through our
philanthropic partners and
salemi.
We'll talk more to that shortly
on the complete outside funding
that helps support programs
across the city.
Here are the 14 sites that are
proposed to receive opportunity
funding.
Azalea, Stockton.
Cesar Solis Penn Athletic.
Willie Henderson.
Collina Del Sol Park de La
Cruz.
Skyline Hills Mountain View Bay
Terraces Choice Lake City
Heights South Crest and Encanto
.
The slide will show you their
opportunity Fund score.
The higher their score,
the higher their financial
need.
And again those other factors
whether they are residing in a
community of concern and if
they have an aquatic facility
those also boost points and
you'll see that budget baseline
of $85,000.
There are some sites here that
are anticipated to receive hud
funding this fiscal year.
The committee still felt that
it was important to continue
providing these opportunity
fund allocations to those sites
in the event that the hud
funding is pulled for any
reason.
And with that these are
the actions that we are
requesting of the Council this
year.
And I will hand it over to
Salemi to go over the complete
outside report and then we'll
take any questions you MAY have
.
Thank you.
So this year I'm just going
over a quick summary of
the complete outside program
that we offered in 2025 and our
accomplishments.
This program began I began as a
part of the mayor for Mayor
Todd Gloria Summer for all of
us initiative.
This program targets youth in
historically underserved
communities and aims to provide
equitable access to a variety
of recreational activities and
events for all to attend.
Since the inception of
the program we're proud to
announce that we've reached
over 208,000 youth adults and
seniors over the past five
years.
Programing participation and
funding has fluctuated as seen
on the table below.
And that's just due to
the changes in programing
that's being offered or
the funding available year
after year to be able to have
those programs.
This year we had less level of
camps and less deep sea fishing
trips which resulted in lower
participation.
But overall we did see an
increase in funding from
contributors in 2025
programing.
And our goal every year is to
increase participation and
funding as much as possible.
I'll just ask for an additional
three minutes.
Thank you.
The complete outside programing
events are supported through a
combination of city funding
grants and donations.
We appreciate all funders that
help support this program
including the San Diego Parks
Foundation, the county of San
Diego feeding San Diego San
Diego Foundation and our own
local San Diego P.D. Prevent
Drowning Foundation and the c e
k Foundation.
In 2025, more than 2.1 million
in contributions were utilized
to support the complete outside
programs and this was across
all of our historically
underserved communities.
Since the inception
the department has received
over 9.5 million in total
contributions.
>> The next slides here will
just go over a brief summary of
what those programs look like
and the attendance
participation.
So so far we've expanded
the programs in 2025 to 36
recreation centers and for
aquatic facilities during
the month of MAY through
SEPTEMBER which are peak summer
months with the target
investment in council districts
four, eight and nine.
But we did expand to council
districts three and seven as
well.
The primary focus for
the programing was based on
documented gaps in access to
recreational enrichment
opportunities.
And our staff actually works
alongside the site supervisors
to determine where the need is
to enhance their programs as
needed.
So overall we've reached over
54,476 participating FTEs
through 1418 programs that were
offered in total.
>> So here you'll see and I
won't go over all of these but
you'll just see an overview of
all the programs that were
offered.
So kudos to all our staff that
work day in and day out over
the summer to put on these
programs.
But you'll see high level this
this is over the last five
years the attendance at
participation numbers for our
day camps, our specialty camps,
nature camps, team nights and
left to right you'll see
the numbers from 2021 to 2020
1225 and how the program has
grown.
As mentioned we see some of
the fluctuation in the amount
of specialty camp specialty
camps are.
These are the gymnastics,
the karate, the stem, the drone
programs that you'll see that
are being offered out in your
communities.
And we saw a reduction in
the level out camps which
dropped the participation.
Nature camps are offered by
the staff.
They the this program rotates
around year after year to
different communities to be
able to offer every community
the opportunity for nature
based programing and field
trips.
The teen night programs are
always really great.
Thanks to the staff They work
diligently to coordinate all of
the activities for youth ages
13 to 17.
Overall a really great program
in partnership with the San
Diego pd or free food is
offered activities, games,
sports and field trips.
And we were able to increase
numbers in our teen
participation from 3500 last
year to a little over 4200 this
year.
>> In addition, you'll see our
parks after dart program that
just kicked off this summer as
well.
Again, another very successful
program that we are offering at
five locations.
This is every Thursday, Friday
and Saturday from 5 to 8.
Total of 99 events that were
offered last year with three
over 36,000 participants.
We did go from eight weeks to
seven weeks only because we had
to adapt the program with
the school schedule that got
out earlier.
It ended later.
But overall a very great
successful event and we haven't
been out.
We encourage you to come out.
Free meals for the kids
community resources and all
kinds of youth activities and
entertainment as well.
We saw an increase in aquatic
programs with our free Learn to
Swim program and free swimming
that was offered at a park
after dark locations such as
City Heights Memorial.
We have our beloved movie in
the Parks event that also
kicked off this summer with a
lot of great events that are
being enhanced by the San Diego
Parks Foundation as well.
So we appreciate their
contribution contributions.
And although I did say that we
did see a reduction in deep sea
fishing trips, we did identify
other funding to be able to
bring back those programs this
year as well.
With that said, that's just a
brief overview.
We invite you to read the full
report to see all the great
details of the programs that
we've offered.
But our commitment to provide
equitable access to enjoyable
and fulfillment recreation
opportunities for our residents
will continue.
Our efforts include expanding
programing opportunities and
types of programs, reassessing
community needs through
feedback, seeking additional
funding resources and grants.
Our community recreation needs
assessment should be coming out
in the next month or two and
we'll take the recommendations
and the results from that
assessment and be able to put
those into action moving
forward in this next year
including how to allocate those
fundings moving forward.
So with that that's the end of
my presentation and we open it
up to any questions that you
MAY have.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you for the presentation
And clerk please proceed with
public comment.
>> I do not see any speaker
slips here in council chambers.
Yeah, okay.
Come to the microphone.
I think it was in the consent.
Yeah.
Another paper Because it was a
We'll get it from you.
>> Yeah, we'll get it.
>> We don't need another one.
Since it was pulled from
consent, right?
>> Yeah.
One minute please for a minute.
So I'd like to know because
there's these camps and
children are, you know,
engaging in different things
here I would like to know what
you guys are doing to ensure
that you're not hiring
pedophiles because not all
pedophiles are labeled as sex
offenders at this point because
they have not been convicted
and they walk around in suits
and look like everyday people
and they go where children are.
And so I mean in schools
they're hiring instructional
aides down in San Isidro and
hiring that from the parents
And there's children It's like
happening during nap time And
because it's being hidden
there's children who are scared
to take naps but yet there's no
other victims.
So I just would like to know
what checks and balances you
guys are doing to make sure
that you're not putting
children in danger Again, I was
at a daycare and it was
the woman's son that does
things in public Comment here
in council chambers by those
participating remotely.
Beekman You'll have one minute
to speak to item as 501 Hi.
>> Thank you.
Pleasure beekman Thanks for
the words of Dora She's
described your life a lot
recently on previous items.
Thank you for those efforts and
what can be doing to address
the issue she's talking about
for this item I am interested
It was originally a committee a
few weeks ago.
It's now here or within this
past month I guess it's now
here.
I'm interested in the rec
center portion and the funding
ideas I I've talked a lot about
.
You know I think there's been
some really heavy conversations
going about on about the future
of biometric tech in our rec
centers But it's been a quiet
conversation.
How is that conversation going?
And I just wanted to remind you
does that be a part of these
funding questions and how can
we be more clear that we can
talk openly about biometric
tech and it shouldn't be a
fearful subject.
It's a matter of fact part of
our everyday lives Now we have
to be more open and clear.
>> Good luck How you can can be
Thank you.
That doesn't fit your time And
that concludes public comment
on this item.
>> All right.
Thank you City Clerk.
So with that we'll turn it back
to our council colleagues for
questions, comments are and
entertain a motion and we will
start with Council member
Moreno Thank you and thank you
for the presentation.
>> I want to start off by
saying that Parks and Rec is
one of my most favorite
departments and also by saying
that we very much associate
with the Parks and Rec in all
their activities.
We were just at Parks after
Dark on Friday.
We got there an hour late and
my daughter didn't get to get a
what is it called a wristband
because they were all out which
she was sad But this is exactly
what we want right?
Kids engaged and climbing
walls.
So kudos to that.
Can you quickly explain what
the opportunity fund is and why
it was created?
Yes, Thank you for
the question.
The Opportunity Fund is a
special revenue fund that
collects revenue via permit
fees and it was created to help
expand equitable programing and
access in our underserved
communities.
Thank you.
>> And how does the money get
allocated?
Excuse me?
Each year the Department
nominates a committee of
department staff.
They're nominated via their
division deputy directors.
This year we had six department
staff comprising of various
analysts through the department
an area manager, district
manager, park ranger and we
also invited our sanogo Parks
Foundation co-chair to join
the process this year.
Got you.
So this was the director
the deputy director who got to
choose the Opportunity Fund
committee, the deputy directors
nominated staff from their
division and who ultimately
chose somebody Somebody was
nominated.
So who chose the nominees?
The deputy directors and
ultimately our program equity
manager approved the slate.
>> Okay.
Approved the slate.
I'm very disappointed.
Wanted to see that in the list
of 15 parks and rec centers
that are to receive opportunity
funds only Caesars Sillies and
South Crest Park in District
eight are receiving funds this
year in District nine five
parks are receiving a total of
243,000 this fiscal year last
year for Parks and Dean and
nine received 160 in district
for seven parks were allocated
a total of 242,000 Last year
they received about $157,000.
How much opportunity funds did
District eight receive this
year?
Don't answer that part 55,000
for Caesar Solis and 13,929 for
South Crest.
I'll do the math right here
55,000 for Caesar Solis And how
much?
55,008 14 and 13,009 29 I'll
put 13,000 since I didn't get
that So roughly around 70
something thousand dollars.
>> Does that sound equitable to
you when District eight
received about $75,000 compared
to the 250,000 that d nine and
d four received this year?
And let me point to you that
last year District eight only
received $49,000 in opportunity
funds while d nine received 160
and d four received 157 So I
ask you again does that sound
equitable to you Now I
appreciate your concern and
bringing that to our attention.
The committee focuses on
the scoring matrix and again
sites that have higher revenue
fund balances I'm sorry
Recreation Center fund balances
have more funding available to
put towards programing So when
they set a baseline of $85,000
as a budget for a recreation
center fund, those were
the sites that had a fund
balance less than 84th out
$85,000 excuse me.
So per se it was not a council
district focused decision.
It was based on the available
funding they had got.
You All of these are
communities of concern that
we're talking about and they're
not being treated equitable And
that's why I'm bringing this
up.
It's not fair that my
communities continue to be left
behind yet again when there are
programs such as
the opportunity Fund to help
get equity back a park and rec
.
So you're saying that
the reason that District eight
did not receive funds is
because it's fund balance in
each park and rec was not
expended?
>> Why are these parks in
District eight not spending
their funding?
>> Yeah, that's a great
question.
As I mentioned earlier we have
multiple funding sources that
are supporting the expansion of
equitable programing across our
underserved communities and
that includes the 2.1 million
we just discussed and come play
outside funding which about 1.8
million came from the San Diego
Parks Foundation.
And so we've seen a growth in
our fund balances across a lot
of the underserved communities
because the San Diego parks
Foundation has began to
contribute and pour so much
funding into supporting a lot
of the primary programing
that's going on at these
facilities.
So because Parks After Dark was
out Silver Wing they did not
receive funding.
That's what you're telling me.
They do have grant funding
source as well as funding from
the San Diego Parks Foundation
that help support their
programs such as their day
camps, their nature camps as
well as their enhanced programs
and services that are being
offered as well.
I also heard yourself say that
there's fund balances that are
not being expended which to me
was absolutely shocking.
That was extremely shocking.
Montgomery Waller, also known
as Lucky Waller has been
requesting a scoreboard for
their baseball field.
Lucky Waller has a very long
history.
It was the first baseball
league in the South Bay.
They contacted my office and
there's an invoice of $34,000
that they sent to me regarding
their scoreboard.
Montgomery Waller has a total
of $302,000 And once again I
ask why was this funding not
expended Memorial at Memorial
Park the San Diego American
Memorial Little League can't
play baseball because their
their field isn't leveled and
bleachers and dugouts don't
have covers And yet I'm being
told that they're not.
These park and RECs are not
expending their funds So that
to me is just mind boggling.
I hear you when you say that
there are other funds that are
being received in these park
and rec facilities but I don't
think that should be a
deterrent for spending
opportunity funds in this
community In the in my
community for instance,
oftentimes we have been left
behind for many years in many
administrations and it's going
to take a lot it's going to
take more funding and it's
going to take more focus and
more money.
And I've shared with my
colleagues that it's going to
take more money for us to get
back on the same track to have
programing as other communities
,as other park and rec
communities.
>> Did you guys know about
the Little League?
Montgomery Waller requesting a
a scoreboard at the tune of
$34,000 and with a $300,000
budget why was that not spent
out?
I unfortunately just learned of
that in the recent weeks and we
prepared these budgets several
months ago.
So this is definitely something
we can consider for use
the Montgomery Waller funds to
support that scoreboard And I
just think that the way
the process the way that this
is being handled is not
equitable.
I haven't gotten a good
explanation as to why
opportunity funds are being
expended at such a I don't I
can't do math as fast as I
could speak And the percentage
that District aid is receiving
in an opportunity funds is just
I would be doing a disservice
to my constituents if I didn't
stand up and say I'm not going
to vote for this.
This is absolutely not
equitable.
This is not what the intention
was for these opportunity funds
And I would call to question
the committee that is being
formed and how they're choosing
oftentimes I understand this is
the process but I will tell you
on the record this process is
absolutely flawed especially
when a council member knows
more about what the communit
what the park and rec needs
than what the director needs.
That to me is just it's
shocking My my residents would
greatly appreciate for their
funding allocations to their
park and RECs and District
eight so residents in my
community are able to enjoy
much more quality programing in
parks near their neighborhoods.
We don't want to drive past
the 94 We don't we don't want
to go and have a movie you know
to go have any type of
programing to have oil painting
or whatever the cases I
strongly disagree with
the decision that has been
presented because District
eight deserves way more than
what the city of San Diego is
giving it with the opportunity
funds And I would urge my
colleagues to send this back to
staff and to fix this So it's a
more equitable it's more
equitable the District eight So
thank you.
COUNCILMAN Moreno, before you
wrapped your comments, Andy
Fields on the line you might
want to hear his comments and
then respond and thank you
Council PRESIDENT And thank you
COUNCILMAN Moreno for your very
important comments.
Yes, our department is aware of
the issues that you've
described both at Memorial and
at Lucky Waller.
We've been working with
the Memorial Little League in
fact on that very scoreboard.
The main problem with
the scoreboard is that
the scoreboard itself lacks a
ability to use your cell phone
to activate it.
So one of the things working
with the Little League on is
how we can get that corrected.
We don't know if it's a full on
replacement of the entire
scoreboard but we're in
the process of determining that
now and that's where we think
some of the fun balance that's
available with Memorial be very
helpful to achieve that
replacement.
So we are actively working on
that as well And Lucky Waller,
we understand those concerns
and what a significant piece of
the action there is is that we
need to actually establish some
capital projects to address
various issues with
the existing lighting system as
well as addressing the area
around the recreation center
including the play areas.
So we are aware of those issues
to the recreation center funds
are continuing to be an area of
resource for us to address
these long needed repairs.
You're absolutely right about
that and you have our
commitment to will do what we
can to spend those moneys down
so that we can be very much
more in line with
the methodology.
Now question was raised earlier
about who serves on
the committee and what
the committee methodology is.
The methodology is truly based
on how much money is available
to spend in each of
the different communities that
are historically underserved.
It just happens There's been
more money that's been
accumulated in the District
eight locations when compared
to the others but that's also
part of a long term trajectory
to push the opportunity Fund
into all of the areas and get
all of them up to where they
can actually achieve some of
the very outcomes that you're
seeking to achieve here.
So please know that we're all
in as far as trying to address
this and to fix this as best we
can.
And we do have our apologies on
any missed communication or
misunderstanding.
We are as MR. Roscoe mentioned
in a transitionary period
misere So we'll be assuming
the leadership role for
the southern parts of San Diego
in the near future and that's
as a result of some of
the budgetary changes that are
being implemented currently.
But we would love to be with
your office and have further
discussions to together solve
these many problems that have
been outlined today.
Thank you.
Thank you for that.
And I just I just want to close
by saying I heard a few things
here.
I heard that my community is
not receiving opportunity funds
this year because one we don't
have they get too much
nonprofit funding And
the second one that I heard was
we haven't formulated I don't
want to call it a capital
improvement project but we
haven't formulated a needs
assessment and that's why you
guys did it know that
Montgomery Waller needs a
scoreboard and it hasn't worked
for years yet they're sitting
on $300,000 So this is staff
not being prepared to to to
spend all the funding that a
park and rec has.
Once again my issue with this
is my community is very much in
need.
We very much need programing at
our park and that is why I
fight tooth and nail every
single year to make sure that
we get the funding.
This is not equitable and
the way that you guys are
scoring these parking racks is
not equitable either.
So like I said I would request
and I would ask my colleagues
to please send this back and
find that it would be fine if
it was one year.
It's one year We messed up.
>> That's fine but this is two
years now that district has
been left behind and I'm not
going to stand for it.
So that concludes my comments.
>> Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
COUNCILMAN Moreno between Andy
and Kota JUNE is typically
budget.
We do a lot of budgets.
How do we address the concern?
I don't see anybody else
jumping the lights.
I think there's some level of
support here.
>> I think looking forward we
can absolutely go back to
the committee that select
the opportunity fund
allocations to maybe
incorporate more council
feedback and take it maybe
outside of just the department
.
I applaud the Parks Rec
Department for bringing in an
external philanthropic partner
to help score but I think a
council perspective would also
be helpful.
These are the dollars that fund
much of the summer programing
at all rec centers in all of
your districts And so we do
need to move ahead with some
action before the end of this
fiscal year.
So we have maybe two weeks
left.
I do caution against going back
to the committee to reallocate
the funds because I don't think
that process would be able to
be done in time prior to JULY
1st when these funds would be
necessary And and Councilmember
,I completely understand your
concern here And I realize that
the dollar amount proposed in
this current allocation is far
less than what d four and 9
A.M. I sure as well you are
going into that fy 27 with $1.2
million in total funds which is
both which is more than both d
four and nine Hence I think
that the lower allocation now
because staff didn't spend it
how do I look at ad8 residents?
How do I look at a kid at
the Montgomery Memorial and
tell them you can't play
baseball because staff didn't
spend the money?
You just said we have $1.2
million.
I hope the little leagues are
listening to this and I hope
all the news is listening to
this as well.
This is really, really, really
making me angry.
>> There's no justification to
this member is 100% of
the opportunity fund allocated
the projected amount?
Yes Thank Well actually
Councilmember Eli Rivera on
the lights and see what
thoughts you might have.
>> Yeah I think there's a I get
similarly frustrated we don't
get money out the door in
the kicking we get this
conversation all the time We
create equity policies and in
those policies on paper don't
result in equity on the ground.
It makes us look like we are
just full of it and and when we
start talking to communities
about it they're talking about
having programs for their kids
and we start talking about a
very cool policy that we
passed.
They look at us like we're on a
different planet and that's
because we kind of are They
care about what's happening in
their communities not about
the people that we're pushing
around on the dais So there's a
policy part of this
conversation.
There's an operations part of
this conversation.
We're not going to change
the policy here on the fly
the quickest lever to pull is
on the operation side.
And I guess what I'm trying to
understand is hearing
Councilmember Moreno's
frustration with knowing that
there's on sitting in an
account and that being
the reason for the lack of
investment or at least part of
the reason for the lack of
investment it would come via
the opportunity fund Most
important thing to do in this
moment it would seem is to get
the money out in a way that
provides the intended benefit
to the community.
So I I'm trying to be careful
here because it's it's District
eight that we're talking about
that is the primary impact of
community.
But again we've had moments
where in District nine similar
situation that is incredibly
frustrating So I don't know if
you have thoughts on how to
speak to the immediate
frustration that I'm hearing
which is getting the money out
the door so that the community
can feel that benefit.
Yeah let's get the dollars out
the door.
Councilmember And so I think
the task for Parks and Rec is
to figure out what our work
plan is to get these dollars
out quickly so we don't end up
in the same situation next year
where you don't get
the opportunity funds because
you have too much fund balance.
So it looks great on paper that
you're walking it out by 28
next year with a high fund
balance.
But what does that actually
mean for your residents?
And so I think the task for
Parks and Rec maybe prior to
the start of the fiscal year is
what the financing and work
plan is for each of the rec
centers.
I think you have 7 or 8 in your
in your district on how to
spend those dollars down and
what the programing and
activities look like for so you
can communicate them out to
your residents a pen to paper
get the dollars out the door.
I want to say one more question
on that.
Right.
There's a communication piece
of this as well Whether it's
whatever district is is is
benefiting from opportunity
fund resources If if they're
not getting out for one reason
or another, we need to know
that because it allows us
the opportunity to work with
you to say well here are a
whole I would I would imagine
that if you asked any of us on
the dais ways to get dollars
out the door for opportunity
fund eligible expenses we could
come up with a long list very
quickly to long list pretty
quickly but we can't do that if
we don't know that that's that
that's happening.
And so that communication piece
is just incredibly important.
So I will ask it in the future
if this issue is arising much
sooner rather than later
because the last thing it
should be doing is impacting
scoring in the next year
because to to remembering this
point that does start it like
pushes an inequitable domino
forward and are producing
inequitable results in
the ground for a program that
was designed to do the exact
opposite Thank you counsel
PRESIDENT All right.
>> Thank you, sir.
We'll go back to Councilmember
Moreno Thank you.
I would ask staff to go back
with this opportunity fund and
find a more equitable way to
disburse the funding.
That is a request I'm making
and it was brought to my
attention as we were doing
the proclamations by the Cooper
family that staff at Memorial
is not allowing them to hook up
to water and or and electricity
for a free bubble machine.
We have $1.2 million sitting in
dea coffers that just it's just
the math is not happening And
so that would be my request is
I think we have one more what
next week's meeting and that
this be brought back and that
the committee find a way their
city staff right and they work
for you we could politely ask
them to come together and find
a more equitable way to
disperse to opportunity funds.
Thank you.
Thank you Council member I'll
go back now Go to Councilmember
Foster.
>> Yes, thank you.
I'm council PRESIDENT And I do
appreciate my colleagues
comments and concerns but I
also do understand fund balance
and continuing to to receive
funds where we are not
deploying state funds.
And so I think what would
really be I think the main
cause of the heartburn is why
are we not expending funds and
having an acceptable response
to that Because the purpose of
establishing this opportunity
fund was to make sure
communities were able to
program and have the resources
and utilize the facilities for
their needs.
>> And so I think number one,
we need to make sure that we
answer that question What is
the plan moving forward?
How are we going to expend
those funds and how we are
going to have the appropriate
timeline associated with that?
And I think that's really at
the heart of what she is
indicating because if we're
just want to leave fund value,
if we're just going to leave on
balances, no one will get
the benefit of and the intent
of what the opportunity fund
is.
So I think I would request that
as we move forward and just
even as we appreciate what
comes back or potentially what
could come back, I think we
need to put this in as part of
our budget monitoring process
and highlight this specifically
because even with District four
we have a big uncertainty on
hud funding.
Right to say hey, we don't even
know if we MAY get it.
It MAY get both x, y and z.
So I think this uncertainty and
again I'll go back to
the federal level that is
creating a lot of the concern
and issues that we are falling
into.
And so I think if we can put
this into our monitoring
process and highlight this to
make sure that we are truly
meeting the intent that we can.
I would also ask the ipa, I
think the ipa should kind of
use the if we can utilize
the Department of Race and
Equity to further dive into
this to look at the concerns
that were brought up in regards
to panel of this elections.
What's on the table is we are
looking at in having these
discussions and looking to
allocate the dollars
accordingly I think accordingly
I think if we can utilize
the office of the idea as well
to be a part of this and to
work with city staff, I think
we will hopefully see some
progress and be in a position
to move things forward.
My concern of course would be
just as my colleagues concern
is we have the dollars
allocated.
We went through our budget
discussions but making sure
that we get these dollars
allocated and deployed without
any further delay as a whole.
So I think that's my my desire.
I don't mind, you know, if we
are going to bring this back
next week.
Council PRESIDENT I think that
would be your call is you do
run the docket but I think
the main question that needs to
be answered is how are you
going to deploy the fund
balance that has been sitting
in I don't know almost always
been sitting for Right.
Which I which I would agree
That is very, very difficult to
take if we are not moving those
funds and if there are issues
just even conveying conveying
the issues to to the offices so
that folks are informed they
can try to help find a
resolution and know how to
communicate with constituents.
Right.
Those are great.
Why is it why is it
the councilmembers obligation
to go out and explain to
constituents which she she has
no sign authority on the fund
balance?
She truly hasn't She can't put
a contract in place.
You can't there's so much that
she cannot do but yet she needs
to go out and explain to her
constituents why this has been
sitting for two years or
whatever that case MAY be.
So I just think one of those
things we need to clean up
operations and make sure we are
moving forward in meeting
the intent of what
the opportunity fund is.
Charles, do you want to jump in
before I go to to Councilmember
Foster's question Correct me if
I'm wrong the opportunity fine
If a zero sum then there is x
number of dollars and going to
figure out how to allocate
them.
So for District eight to get
more funding district 49 will
have to give up some.
So if there is going to be a
motion to ask for a
reallocation I want that from
the council members.
I want equity.
I want equity and opportunity
funds of 2027.
That's what I'm asking.
i'm just I figure how we get
there.
So District 49 would have to
give up some money to get a
bigger allocation for District
eight So to bring it back for
that purpose I would need to
hear from the two of you
because you're the two that are
going to be affected by that
and I hate to have that
question.
It is a zero fund so that's how
you have to puzzle it out And
I'm sorry Council PRESIDENT But
if I MAY that that sounds like
Hunger Games.
That sounds like you're putting
us in a position to have a
conversation amongst ourselves
where I'll simply put I don't
have a fund balance that is
that significant.
And so I think city staff needs
to come back and determine how
they are going to be more
efficient and resolve
the outstanding outstanding
issues and to to take care of
expanding the dollars.
I don't I'm not in a position
to say hey, I'm going to give
something up where I didn't
create the situation And
clearly there's dollars that
need to be deployed Sounds like
an operational concern.
Our acknowledge it was an awful
thing for me to ask but I'm
thinking about what can be done
in a week or two and if I might
be there's some larger
questions that I'll speak to
and perhaps the pro tem will
speak to but you to know we
need this done by JULY 1st for
the start of the new fiscal
year We can target maybe JUNE
20th 9th or JUNE 30th by us a
little bit more time to meet
both the councilmembers
concerns and an understanding
that yes it is zero sum And so
I think spending more time with
the other officers that MAY be
impacted but trying to maybe
buy us another week to put
together a more holistic
package.
So hopefully talking to the end
of the month rather than next
week I think is a better path
if possible.
Okay.
I think what we saw in
the budget my apologies for
the program but some of
the creative thinking in terms
of legal interpretations about
funding where we can get
funding that MAY make
the conversation a little bit
easier.
I do not know if there is any
opportunity there but for
everybody But are thinking cap
thought and look things a
little bit differently I'll
have more comments but let me
go to council PRESIDENT Pro Tem
Lee Thank you for your
patience.
>> Thank you PRESIDENT I
actually I thank you customer
Marina for bringing this topic
off of consent to have this
discussion because I think it's
easy for us to see these come
and go each year without
actually looking into
the specifics and Councilmember
Foster's point I understand
that I think one gets this a
zero sum game So at the end of
day there's only a limited
number of funds that are
allocated into opportunity
funds.
But I think the feedback that's
coming back isn't who needs to
give up what it's that the if
the calculations based off of
something that's off to begin
with then the problem is only
what it is because it's now
been identified or if it was
calculated differently no one
would be losing money just
would it be calculated
differently And I think that's
all that's all I think
the discussion needs to be at
this point is is some kind of
understanding that fund
balances just because they've
been sitting there unspent
should account against
the community If there's a
reason why those funds should
be spent and I don't know what
the solution to that is, I will
note that when you look at when
you look at the rec center
funds across the chart and you
look at the ones based on
the lowest amount of revenue
that's collected from
recreation programing that sort
of matches up pretty heavily
with the list of rec centers
that receive Rec Center
Opportunity Fund funding as
well.
There's got to be some way to
correlate that and not just
base it off of balances if that
would make some sense.
Another thing I would note is
that this is an interesting
conversation because I think in
each of our communities
especially in parks surrounding
rec centers, some of the older
ones often have playground
equipment and other things that
are falling apart and we're
often scrounging for a couple
thousand dollars here or there
to fix a couple of things And
then yes, it is very difficult
to go look at a chart like this
and find that there's tens of
thousands if not hundreds of
thousands of dollars sitting in
a fund that isn't utilized
the spark an entire memory of
mine I was at the literally
closing day in Mesa where they
literally have the city's get
it done link on a qr code at
their snack shop to remind
every person buying something
to report that a set of shell
states shades have been out of
commission for the better part
of the entire season and they
get everyone to submit requests
thinking that's going to be
taken care of And those are
the kinds of things where I
think we're usually trying to
find funding elsewhere to
resolve.
So for me beyond this
discussion I think there's an
opportunity to think about how
we approach this in the next
year.
I also would really benefit
from understanding how
the actual budgets are
determined per rec center fund
and how those budgets are being
allocated because they're very
different.
There are some that have a huge
amount in terms of programing
funds that exceed
the programing revenue that's
being received And so this year
we're actually spending down
balances across the entire city
by a couple million dollars But
I don't imagine that's
sustainable And so I'm trying
to understand what does that
mean in a year or two when
those balances aren't going to
support that level of spending?
Are we heavily subsidizing
recreational programs at
the moment And we're going to
find ourselves in a tough spot
in two years.
That's something that stuck out
to me.
There are some rec center funds
that have a huge amount being
allocated towards maintenance
and others had a very little
and again so and some that have
a huge amount for contingency
or other expenses I think those
kinds of details actually would
help us in individual rec
centers because again we get
these requests from community
members and sometimes for
simple little things And I
think we need to be able to
understand where to point them
towards in terms of
opportunities to get things
fixed in the city.
We've all talked about how
wonderful it is to build new
parks and playgrounds and
whatnot but there's a lot in
the city and a lot in each of
our districts that is in
disrepair that needs to be
taken care of and that we're
seeing funding sitting around
does certainly hurt.
So that was my $0.02.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT.
All right.
Thank you.
We'll go back to Councilmember
Eli Rivera.
All right.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT.
So one of the things that we
did during this past this I
guess current fiscal year that
was meant to grow the Pie for
Opportunity Fund was require
that the lease holders of
the polo fields pay $100,000 to
be used specifically for
opportunity funds that as I
understand it is not included
in the allocations for this
year that payments supposed to
come in JANUARY?
That's correct.
Is there a reason why we
wouldn't be able to apply and
I'll look to the aba on this
don't want to be responsible
here but if we know we're
getting $100,000 in JANUARY why
we wouldn't be able to bank on
that and use that so that we're
not battling each other for rec
centers.
I mean I'm thinking Stockton
Rec Center is the one that
comes to mind for me and that
one is really benefited from
this Senior Services Financial
literacy Zouma classes, youth
programing And this is in a
community that that rec center
was starved for resources to
the point of of you know like
really kind of like barely
having a pulse.
Opportunity Fund has revived
the rec center and
the community is it is one of
the few places where they can
be where they can feel safe and
and enriched their they've gone
on hikes together.
It's a beautiful, beautiful
thing.
And the idea that we're going
to be pulling funds from one
program that does something
like that to ensure that other
kids in this city have access
to the resources they should
have.
If there's any way to avoid
that, I'd like to do that
especially if we know that
there's money coming in during
the next fiscal year.
Yeah.
In response to your question,
Councilmember in general, if
there's a reasonable
expectation that dollars will
be coming in the door it is
fine and appropriate to budget
those as you are preparing your
final budget which you already
have which is essentially
allocated dollars towards that
MAY or MAY not kind of allow
for cash flow needs but those
would be a specific kind of
departmental questions on when
dollars would be out the door.
And as I understand it,
the issue with the doors are
not going out the door fast
enough right now.
So I would want any specific
allocation to be informed by
the department and the council
officers expectation of what
the needs are.
But if you have a reasonable
expectation that dollars will
be coming in allocating to them
at this point makes sense.
>> Yeah.
So I guess what I what I would
say is this because I think
this is where Councilperson
Pro-Tem was going what would
the math look like?
What was the scoring look like
if the dollars had gone out
the door?
Like I think we all agree that
they should And then once we've
answered that question or
either way if there's resources
that we know are dependable I
was really glad when that
happened.
That was I think a really good
example of again of leaning
into the things that San Diego
takes a lot of pride in but
don't necessarily isn't
necessarily benefit everyone
across the city and making it
work for the folks who often
are left behind so if that's if
we can figure out problem one
first which is how are these
dollars going to go out
the door, then we can then make
sure that with the any reassess
amount of scoring that would be
taken those dollars being out
the door that there's resources
there to support it so that you
know districts that have
objectively been funded in an
equitable way in the in
the past don't again end up in
a situation where we're
battling each other for those
funds.
Thank you.
That is great point that we do
have that funding coming in
JANUARY.
I will caution each year we
budget the opportunity fund
based on the dollars we've
collected in the year prior.
And so if we utilize
the $100,000 in fy 27 that will
be the 100,000 less will have
for fy 28.
Granted we haven't utilized
that funding yet but I just
want to make sure that that
that's clear But we could
certainly look to utilize an
all or part of that funding as
part of reanalyzing the fy 27
Opportunity Fund allocation And
I do want to state that as Andy
mentioned earlier with
the merge of the Community
Parks two division and
the Citywide Recreation
Services Division there'll be
more oversight and connectivity
as an awareness of what's going
on across both of those
divisions now that they'll
become one and there will be
more oversight in
the expenditure of
the recreation center funds.
I will add that in the spring
of this past year we
established a team that is
working directly with each of
the center directors across
the department for this exact
reason as to ensure that they
are looking at their budgets,
their spending, their budgets,
their expanding, their
programing based on community
feedback And this was also in
anticipation of the community
recreation needs assessment
that we will be receiving this
summer.
We want to be as prepared as we
can be to ensure that our very
green recreation center
directors are ready to launch
programing based on what that
community feedback was.
And so you do have my
commitment that we will be
monitoring closely expenditures
of these funds so that they are
going to the purpose that
they're intended to serve and
that is programing for
the community.
>> Thank you.
So maybe maybe we need a motion
right before we do and take a
two minute pause maybe.
Yeah.
I like to avoid surprising
people Give it a go.
Councilmember Eli Rivera Oh
right.
So I'm to do my best here on
the fly.
>> Um, brace yourselves Now we
can't just return this to staff
,but I want to be specific
about what we're asking for to
come back.
I think that's the part because
it needs to come back.
I think the thing that we want
is a plan for how fund balances
will be spent If a an
assessment of the scoring if
the fund balances were to have
been spent down in the way that
we agree they should have been
And then I, I think we should
be tapping into those polo
fields funds.
I understand that it's
different than the way that
the other funds have flowed
into into the opportunity fund
But we're we're far from we're
far from overflowing
the coffers of of of our rec
centers.
So I think if we have those
things in place when the item
comes back we'll be in a place
where we can get to
the resolution that I think we
all want.
Does that work as a motion for
you Council PRESIDENT So I
think that's direction to
the staff and my suggestion is
we just returned this to staff
and re docket it probably on
JUNE 29th.
I want to make sure that
Councilmember Moreno could
attend that But you have
sufficient direction others MAY
have others But again there's a
two week window to actually get
something that can be approved
and maybe not totally fixed
because I think there's a
larger conversation I'll have
some additional facts as well
But I think you have enough
direction of what and
COUNCILMAN Moran, I see kind of
nodding your head as well.
>> All right.
>> So we're not actually having
a motion on the table.
We'll just return it to staff.
Can I get a verbal commitment
and that Yes, Councilmember,
you have our commitment.
Okay.
And then Charles, do you do win
Is there anything else that
would accompany the use of
those funds that would need to
be docketed adjacent to this
item in order to pull
the levers necessary to make
that possible?
I don't believe so at this
time, Councilmember If there is
I'll certainly work with
the administration and staff to
make sure know I'm looking for
problem to make sure it ends up
being docketed.
Thank you.
Against PRESIDENT.
All right.
Thank you.
So we'll go to council member
whitburn Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT Certainly
happy to go in this direction.
However, districts 894 want to
handle it.
I would say you know
understanding that there's a
broader concern around getting
the expenditure is out the door
and perhaps taking a look at
how things are scored If we do
run into a challenge getting
something across the finish
line I don't see the District
eight is going to go through a
you know, a billion plus
dollars right away But more
power to you if you do.
But getting getting to my point
I would I would be supportive
somewhere along the way of just
allocating $100,000 in general
fund to make up the gap from
what you otherwise would have
been allocated had what's that
?
>> Okay.
Well all right.
So maybe there's a whole nother
issue there But I mean we
could, you know, do some
allocation for the general fund
to make up equity gap there if
we ready to but at least I
would be supportive of that So
yeah.
All right Thank you Council My
term will go back to council
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee They get
to follow up questions just ask
one is that the final budget
action that the council took
there were restorations of
course to a number of rec
centers.
Is that did that impact
the budgets that ultimately are
seen here Presumably the 20
hours in addition that number
of rec centers would adjust
the programing availability and
expectations for revenue and
expenditures?
I just don't know to
the positive or to
the negative.
Yes, Thank you for
the question.
We do have some of the sites
that are receiving reduced
hours that we are currently
working with our department
director on how we can
potentially utilize these funds
if if at all within Proposition
26 to support the operations of
those locations.
But oh yeah I don't mean that
in particular.
I know that idea was brought up
and I for 1 A.M. Not a huge fan
of use utilizing the existing
funding.
i mean some rec centers across
the city don't have fund
balances to utilize for ours.
Others might be utilized for
programing in other ways etc.
So I yeah I, I don't think that
was the goal but in the final
budget we did restore hours at
a number of rec centers and so
I assume that changes
the budget assumptions because
these were put together prior
to the final budget being
adopted.
And so I think that's
the question is how does that
change some of these numbers at
the end of the day given that
they're already a little bit
out of date I assume because we
already adjusted the hours at I
believe it was like nine rec
center across the city?
Yeah.
If they're sites with reduced
hours they won't be generating
the revenue If they don't have
the additional programing
taking place because of
the reduced hours which means
they won't have those
expenditures going out
associated with those programs.
Right.
So were these with these
budgets built off of
the proposed budget with
reduced hours?
No.
These budgets were built prior
to the general fund budget
season and Council PRESIDENT
Pro Tem if I MAY jump in just
real quick when it comes to
the Recreation Center fund and
the opportunity Fund, a great
deal of that money is derived
from permit revenue permit
revenue is primarily sourced
from the rental of rooms and
from the rental of fields And
honestly most of the permit
revenue that we see is focused
on the field rentals and so as
the field rentals are not
affected by recreation center
hours of operation we do
anticipate that the recreation
centers will still be excuse me
the fields will be able to
generate enough revenue to be
able to keep what we think is
going to occur and
the opportunity fund within
the same general range that
it's been over the last several
years.
If we had closures of fields
and things like that and I
think we would see a bigger
challenge in front of us with
respect to the generation
potential of permit revenue.
Thanks.
Got it.
Thank you.
Any and then I assume that
means what little revenue was
being generated by room rentals
that was definitely impacted by
closure.
Was that that final impact
scenario not assumed here?
Okay.
And then my last question is
around special event budgets.
Each of these rec centers have
special events funding
budgeted.
Is that largely to support
events at the rec center itself
is putting on or are they ones
that they are doing at times in
partnership with the community
?
And I mentioned this and if you
remember at Stanley Rec Center
we had a discussion two years
ago about a an annual OCTOBER
Fest event held as a support
for local schools that
ultimately that was being
supported as a sponsored event
through the rec center for a
number of years and then
suddenly was not and they
canceled because permit fees
suddenly went through the roof.
That's that's where I'm looking
to understand how special event
budgets fill in the gap there
as well.
Don't have to answer all that
now but I just want to flag it
as something that we might
follow but certainly be happy
to have a follow up discussion
with you on that.
Thank you.
>> All right.
I don't see anybody else in
lights so I'll be brief in my
comments.
This is the kind of stuff I
love a tiny red flag that opens
up a conversation that
everybody thinks it's just kind
of a routine business And we do
this every year so let's just
pass it every year.
I do want to thank the two of
you.
I want to thank Andy for
jumping in And as a quick
reminder, Opportunity Fund is
just a few years old.
It was built from scratch.
I think some of the things that
were discussed today at least
to me shows that maybe it's
time to relook at
the opportunity Fund.
I took a quick glance at
the policy and it's pretty
broad in its scope when it as I
compare it to 800 dash 14 four
see ip that's incredibly
detailed with what the matrix
is and what the priorities are
And I imagine for my colleagues
that when they look at what
the budget is they don't
actually know where that money
is being spent, not that it
hasn't been allocated or
budgeted correctly or
appropriately but I think it
leaves a lot of questions and
questions lead to more
questions and concerns going
forward.
So the department might want to
think about how to communicate
better of if for a recreation
center this is what the funding
is, what that funding is being
spent on because I suspect
somewhere in a deeper
spreadsheet that information is
actually sitting there whether
it's programing or a capital
improvement or a maintenance
ongoing maintenance And that
might answer a lot of questions
in advance of an item like this
coming forward.
But I do want to recognize that
this is something new that we
tried.
It was a problem.
We recognized everybody in Lima
And to create this program, can
the Opportunity Fund be
expanded as or more dollars
that can be shifted from
recreation centers and higher
opportunity areas are things
that I think we ought to be
looking at in the year ahead,
not in the next two weeks but
going forward.
So with that as a reminder this
is being returned to staff.
I anticipate that will docket
this on Monday, JUNE 29th to
hear the feedback from
the department that was offered
by Councilmember Moreno,
Councilmember Eli Rivera and I
think the other council members
as well so that we can meet our
budgetary deadlines and get
this docketed.
So JULY 1st everybody knows
what kind of funding they have
available So you have a little
bit of work ahead of you.
Thank you very much for your
ongoing effort and thank you
Kota for helping us navigate
this going forward.
All right.
So that concludes if 501 are
there any mayoral council city
attorney, independent budget
analyst or city Clerk Comments
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So just the in-person non
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Again deferring the virtual
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>> Thank you Pearl 2.7 Public
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Senator Maximillian Schmidt and
allegedly Audrey if you can
please come forward Joe you'll
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Please proceed.
>> There there has been a lot
of good fighting in these
chambers lately.
Each agenda item had a purpose
and a focus unique to it
Whether it was budget trash
fees, parking fees, hate crimes
and more.
Yet in my opinion something is
missing Something that brings
the beautiful tapestry.
Thank you Council member Ito
Revere together as one Yes
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
Words do matter So in my
opinion we need the words of a
new vision for San Diego a
noble vision for the great
city.
We want to become.
This would be the kickstart we
need for the boldness we need
to unravel and solve.
What is not working at our city
Structural core.
Dear Public you are all of you
all of us at the very top of
our city's organization chart.
Let's work together as one to
create a noble vision for our
beautiful city.
Now it's been a absolutely
beautiful morning.
>> Thank you everybody and love
to all Maximilian Schmidt in
California.
Every year there are hundreds
of suicides and thousands of
overdoses.
And I want to open Pandora's
box that a lot of them are due
to the lie that human beings
cannot read and other human
beings mind and that there's an
underground genocide going on
against normal white Christians
like myself that's been going
on since the time of Christ and
it's called Zeus.
It's song where I live in a
city owned and city operated
homeless shelter and I go to a
city operated library to look
for jobs and then I take
the city operated trolley in
between places and everywhere I
go there is something reading
my mind for example say like um
you have to like I'm thinking
of using the restroom right now
like someone will stand behind
me saying that the second I
think of using the restroom
looks like Oh I just checked
out a book from the library or
something and they'll say like
what book you checked out Or
even if if the person can't see
it they'll say um also all
sorts of disturbing things
basically trying to make you
subconsciously paranoid all
the time And it's coupled with
buildings making high pitch
noises all the time throughout
the day It's called a noise
campaign noise harassment and
people are being depopulated
under the table underground in
America and especially patriots
like myself who kind of found
themselves stranded in liberal
cities.
I'm from northern Kentucky,
southern Ohio.
I'm just a normal average
person who was living homeless
and
All right, good afternoon.
I will now reconvene the City
council meeting of Tuesday,
JUNE 16th excuse me 2026.
Clerk Please call the roll.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT Council
Member Campbell Yea Council
Member Whiteman Sure.
Council Member Foster Council
Member Von Wilpert Council
PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee there
Council Member Can you hear
Council Member Moreno Present
Council Member Eli Rivera and
Council PRESIDENT LaCava
Present Oh sorry Also attend
the meeting or Assistant City
Attorney Leslie Fitzgerald
Independent Budget Analyst
Charles Mollica Council Affairs
Advisor in the Mayor's office
Co-Designer and myself for City
Clerk Diana Fuentes Thank you
Council PRESIDENT Thank you.
A quorum is not present.
We will start this afternoon
session with our trailed non
agenda public comment from this
morning As a reminder we took
in-person non agenda public
comment at the end of our
morning session so now we will
hear the trail virtual portion
so Clark please proceed with
virtual non agenda public
comment.
>> Thank you.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT I
am starting the five minute
timer and going to those
participating remotely as you
know please be sure to speak on
items that are not on
the agenda but within
the subject matter jurisdiction
of the City Council.
>> Becky Wrap if you can please
unmute.
Good afternoon.
My name is Becky Rock and today
I'd like to recognize and thank
city attorney for her for her
office and her office for
taking action against
the illegal sale of marijuana
products at two San Diego smoke
shops On APRIL 30th the city
attorney announced that her
office had secured a temporary
restraining order against
Miramax to smoke, smoking and
prime smoke be requiring them
to stop selling marijuana
products without the licenses
required by state law And
the San Diego Municipal Code
one of those stores Prime Smoke
and Vape is located near my
home And as a resident I
appreciate the city's efforts
to address illegal activity in
our neighborhoods.
However, as of today, just six
weeks after the APRIL 30th
enforcement action, these
products still appear to be
advertised in the store
windows.
My concern goes beyond illegal
marijuana sales as many of
these smoke shops including
crime smoke and we are openly
selling flavored tobacco and
kratom which California has
also prohibited brightly lit up
signs are posted on their
Windows advertising using
illegal products.
True enforcement means
addressing all of the laws that
are being violated The business
of selling illegal marijuana
illegal flavored tobacco or
illegal kratom Those violations
should be investigated enforce
consistently.
I encourage the city to build
on the city attorney's efforts
by increasing inspections and
providing regular updates to
the public on compliance If
laws continue to be broken
the permits need to be revoked.
Please send a message that our
city will no longer tolerate
these illegal sales.
>> Thank you.
Thank you.
Next is Kathleen Lippert.
>> If you can please unmute.
Thank you for letting me speak.
i really am still struggling
with Councilmember Foster's
comments this afternoon.
I thought they were divisive
and continuing to focus on ways
on for reparations instead of
moving forward keeps us mired
in the divisiveness that we are
already in.
Also blaming the city's deficit
for conservatives, radicals and
this administration instead of
taking responsibility and
spending on things like zero
carbon goals, equity and
flooding that occurred because
the city diverted maintenance
not because of climate change.
The failure to enforce public
health laws such as public
drinking, smoking and drug use
already on the books continue
to erode community trust and
increase the city's looking
more like a third world country
rather than a beautiful, clean
and safe city at once was
originally created Unions
originally created to serve
the public now have become self
serving.
They are not helping
the public.
In fact they are a detriment
and a barrier to public have
the public being able to be
served by their elected
leaders.
They have way too much
influence.
Unions continue to oppose
school choice when parents want
the choice of schools that's
tailored for their children.
And despite global effort to
modernize slavery is widespread
and still at 167 countries
the first country to denounce
slavery was Great Britain.
The second was America.
Yet these are the only two
countries that continue to be
persecuted for ever having
allowed slavery in the first
place.
People of color were not only
the only humans traffic
the British occupied and ruled
over I thank you Your time has
concluded.
Blair Beakman if you can please
I'm you all right there?
Beakman Thank you.
Yeah, I wanted to comment from
yesterday.
I am really hopeful about
the initiative about you know,
working on what's happening
with our Somali community And
so I'm interested how we will
be working together to ask
people who are promoting a way
of thinking and believe how
they can limit that, how they
can bring their words to a
different place in asking
questions And that is a real
serious problem that I want to
be able to address How do we
address policy without going at
each other's throats Basically
And that takes work from all of
us And yeah I, I hope we can we
can get there.
It takes a lot of practice and
I want to I'm just
understanding how to possibly
better practice those things.
It takes patience and it takes
really wanting to listen to
both sides And Detroit Senator
who was thinking about ideas of
real hate after the events of
the Islamic shooting incidents
I was amazed and impressed by
the calmness and wisdom of
the imams from San Diego And I
listened to an a man from Texas
at the same time who was
speaking on the issues at
the shooting and they offered a
real sense of peace and just
ask for patience how to address
things.
And it was really helpful for
myself And I learned important
lessons that maybe Joyce and I
can talk to imam of the San
Diego Islamic Center and get
his understanding on how to
address such things.
We need that more in San Diego
We don't need hyperbolic
behavior and language and we
have to learn ways to really
hear both sides and come up
with progressive answers.
>> How do we do that?
Thank you.
Next is a phone number ending
in 5935.
If you can press star six to
unmute 5935.
Brother Steve Star six to
unmute I'll come back to you
Peggy Walker if you can please
unmute.
Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Because this is Pride month I
came to call attention to
multiple studies showing lgbtq
youth use intoxicating
substances as at significantly
higher rates than their
straight peers and are twice as
likely to use marijuana.
This high prevalence points to
the susceptibility of this
vulnerable population to
negative substance use outcomes
to administrative research
finds a higher proportion of
lgbtq young people use cigarets
and e-cigarettes highlighting
persistent disparities in
tobacco use among this group as
well.
Due in part to targeted
marketing by the tobacco
industry tactics adopted by
the marijuana manufacturers as
well National substance use
prevention data Further shows
56% of lgbtq youth used alcohol
in the past year including 47%
under age 21 and 1 in 3 used
marijuana.
>> Disturbingly, national data
shows higher substance use
rates have increased the risk
of suicide attempt by lgbtq
youth compared with their peers
according to research
harassment and discrimination
of the lgbtq individuals.
Increase of stress leading to
higher rates of youth substance
use putting them at greater
risk of addiction and related
mental health concerns.
And this data emphasizes that
widespread commercialization of
marijuana and other addictive
products continues to harm
young people across the board
as especially vulnerable youth.
While promises of protection
have failed in light of all
this, I urge you to rethink
drug policies that allow
widespread availability of high
potency thc and harm all youth.
>> Your time has concluded
going back 59355935.
Press star six to unmute I
think I'm reading that right
yes 5935 star six to unmute
fortunately if you can hear me
we will have to move on to
other callers.
Star six To unmute you are not
on mute and we cannot hear you
here in council chambers and I
can unmute for you remember
the welcome to give written
comments to the Council Madison
If you can please unmute I
thank you.
Good afternoon City Council
members.
Yesterday I spoke about
California's new air tool that
helps identify marijuana
packaging that MAY appeal to
children.
I think that development
highlights something important
technology can be used to
better protect public health
and safety.
If regulators are willing to
use artificial intelligence to
help identify problematic
packaging, perhaps we should
also explore how new
technologies can support
enforcement efforts against
cannabis retailers that violate
the law.
Many San Diegan have heard
concerns about retailers
selling unapproved or illegal
products including products
that MAY not have undergone
required testing or that are
sold outside of approved
channels.
Effective enforcement is
essential because rules only
protect the public when they
are actually followed and
enforced.
I encourage the city to think
creatively about how technology
and data can help identify
patterns of noncompliance,
improve inspections, support
investigations and make
enforcement resources more
efficient.
Air should never replace human
judgment, but it MAY help
regulators focus attention
where problems are most likely
to exist.
As a mother of three young
children, my concern is that
when products with intoxicating
effects are sold in our
communities we should be doing
everything we can to ensure
businesses are following
the rules and that youth are
protected from exposure and
access to the state's new ai
tool shows that innovation can
be used in service of public
safety.
I hope San Diego will continue
looking for ways to use
available technology to
strengthen oversight, improve
accountability and protect
young people.
Thank you.
7499.
If you can please unmute 7499.
>> Bob Kozinski here.
First bravo to Kathleen
Lippert.
This council's earlier flowery
speeches about Juneteenth
freedom and equal rights would
indeed be admirable if this
council itself wasn't denying
freedom and equal rights to
your own citizens right here in
your own city, in your own time
and under your own noses.
Every member of this council
knows that citizens are being
arbitrarily discriminated
against At the Torrey Pines
Glider port by your
concessionaire and an
organization calling itself
Youth.
But this council and you Joe
LaCava allow your glider port
operator to deny equal rights
to any citizens that day or use
the disguise they don't like
for any reason.
Does this city or this city
council make any effort at all
to ensure that youth isn't
expelling people out of
discrimination or retaliation
or for any other unjustified
reasons?
No you don't.
Yet each of you postured here
today as if you really cared
about people being abused in
this city and this country.
The proof is there.
You don't.
Just yesterday on JUNE 15th,
2026 I spent another day hang
gliding at the Dockweiler hang
gliding site in Los Angeles
near lax.
Myself and dozens maybe
hundreds of others have been
able to fly at that site since
2017 when the county of Los
Angeles reviewed Uber's
predatory expulsion practices
and determined that the county
of Los Angeles would not allow
citizens to be arbitrarily
barred from public recreational
lands.
So in 2017 the County of Los
Angeles implemented Dockweiler
waiver which has been
successfully in place for
nearly a decade.
Yet what do you do in San Diego
?
You make flowery speeches about
Juneteenth rather than taking
the actions that you could take
right here in your own city.
Some of you also feel the need
to grandstand and rail against
our PRESIDENT While you don't
even do your own job right here
in San Diego.
This problem was solved in just
a few short months by
the county of Los Angeles, but
it has gotten completely
unresolved and even ignored
here in San Diego.
Shame on you, Joe Lacob.
Shame on you, Todd Gloria And
shame on this entire city
council.
>> Your time has concluded and
that concludes on agenda public
comment virtually for today's
meeting.
All right, City clerk.
Some of you MAY have noticed
that our typical screens remain
blank So we're going to take a
couple of minutes and do a
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problem.
So bear with us
and
then thank you for your
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We are back online.
All right.
Just getting ready for JULY
1st.
Thank you to the Wizards that
figured that out.
>> All right.
Just because today is a day we
will be changing the order of
items on today's docket and we
will start with item 333 and
phase f8-1.
We will then hear items s5o4,
then 330 and 331.
At the end we'll come back for
a pfa minutes and pfa non
agenda public comment at
the end.
So with that clerk please
introduce the City Council and
the Public Facilities Financing
Authority related items.
>> Item 330 through three is
the authorization for
the Public Facilities Financing
Authority of the City of San
Diego Senior Water Revenue
Bonds Series 2026 a preliminary
official statement and item one
is the approval of the form and
authorization of
the distribution of
the preliminary official
statement and authorization of
the execution delivery and
distribution of the official
statement in connection with
the issuance and sale by
the Public Facilities Financing
Authority of the City of San
Diego its 2026 senior water
revenue bonds.
This item is not subject to
the mayor's veto.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
All right.
Thank you.
I see staff is starting to
settle in.
When you're ready please
introduce yourselves for
the record and let us know how
much time you need for
the combined presentation.
>> Thank you.
Good afternoon.
Council PRESIDENT And members
of the City Council.
Jose Padilla, assistant
director with the Department of
Finance and presenting with me
today Marisol Wilder, Venus
financing Coordinator.
Jasmine and Jasmine Mellon
finance analyst from
the Department of Finance.
And Rhett Butler, Chief Deputy
Deputy City Attorney.
We also have Adam Jones from
Public Utilities and soon from
a municipal advisor and our
bond counsel Diane Quan from
Hawkins del Lynwood
participating remotely.
You'll need about 10 to 12
minutes.
All right.
When you're ready.
Thank you.
The city council previously
approved the issuance of
the 2026 a water bond and all
relevant legal documents via
ordinance in MARCH 2026.
And the authority also took
similar action in FEBRUARY 2026
with a resolution.
Before I turn it to Marisol on
the specifics of the requested
actions, I'd like to note first
that these bonds do not impact
the city's debt ratios.
The water bonds are governed by
financial metrics specific to
the utility including debt
service coverage and liquidity
or cash flow metrics.
Second, the water utility bonds
were put on a negative outlook
last year by two rating
agencies Fitch and Moody's.
Just earlier this morning we
received ratings on the 2026
senior water revenue bonds.
Moody's has downgraded
the ratings of the senior water
revenue bonds from Double-a to
to Double-a three and changed
the outlook from negative to
stable.
They cited reduction in
the water, utilities, liquidity
and debt along with and debt
ratios.
Sorry They cited the water
utilities, liquidity and
coverage issues along with
uncertain ability to raise
rates to maintain adequate
liquidity as reasons for this
downgrade.
We expect Fitch to release
their ratings later this
afternoon.
Staff will distribute a
detailed memorandum on
the readings including rating
actions on the outstanding
water bonds and loans in
the coming days.
And now I will turn it over to
Marisol to go over the fiscal
impact and the preliminary
official statement based on
estimated market conditions as
of MAY 20th 2026.
The Vivendi financing plan
includes approximately 140
million and new money proceeds
.
The estimated true interest
cost for the new money bonds is
approximately 4.42%.
Debt service is expected to be
about 3.6 million in fiscal
year 27.
If I take it interest only
payment thereafter
the anticipated debt service is
approximately 8.4 million
annually through fiscal year
57.
Refinancing component
The refinancing component is
expected to generate
significant savings with an
estimated net present value
savings of 8.9% and total
estimated savings of
approximately 32.3 million.
The debt service coverage ratio
is estimated at 1.41 times in
fiscal year 26 and is projected
to increase to 2.17 times in
the five year projection period
.
This slide summarizes
the estimated sources and uses
of funds.
Overall the transaction is
expected to generate
approximately 475 million in
bond proceeds.
These funds will primarily be
used for three purposes
repaying outstanding commercial
paper funding water system
capital improvements and
refunding outstanding water
revenue bonds.
A relatively small portion will
cover cost of issuance.
As with all financing
estimates, these figures remain
subject to change based on
market conditions.
>> Regarding the time line with
council approval of the post we
expect to release the documents
to the market in the next few
days and price the bonds about
two weeks from now on JULY 1st.
The bonds are anticipated to
close on JULY 14th 2026.
These dates are estimates and
MAY be adjusted if necessary.
>> The literary the preliminary
official statement is intended
to provide information that an
investor would consider
material in making an informed
investment decision and
includes the terms of
the bonds.
The Financing Plan.
Security for Repayment.
Financial and Operational
Information about the water
system Applicable risk factors
and expected credit ratings.
This slide with the pertinent
information contained in
the preliminary official
statement on the water system
and the city overall that an
investor would need to consider
such as water system service
area facilities, water supply
capital improvement program,
financial operations and five
year projections.
Also included is information on
climate change investments,
labor relations, insurance,
pension and litigation.
The p o.
S also lists risk factors that
investors MAY consider in their
purchase of the bonds.
The posted grab's risks related
to the water system and risks
related to the bonds themselves
and other risks.
And finally there are
appendices contained in
the document that provide
additional information for
the bondholder.
These include summaries of
principal legal documents
the form of bond counsel's
approving opinion,
the continuing disclosures
certificate and information
regarding the book entry only
system used for the bonds.
The document will continue to
be updated as needed until it's
released to the market.
Now let's turn it over to Brett
to briefly describe
the disclosure process.
Thank you and good afternoon.
As you are familiar from your
securities responsibility
disclosure responsibility
trainings in the past.
This all stems from
the Securities Disclosure
Ordinance that was adopted in
mid 2000s.
It requires the establishment
of the Disclosure Practices
Working Group or ewg.
The composition of that group
is the ceo Director of Finance
,Chief Financial Officer, City
Attorney, the dca for finance
and Disclosure And then we have
outside general Disclosure
counsel.
The dpw then established as
part of the disclosure
ordinances requirements
the disclosure controls and
procedures or controls and as
part of the controls and
the process the mayor, city
attorney and cfo provide
certifications regarding
the policy to the marketing
document that there are no
material misstatements or
omissions within the document.
>> Next slide please.
So at the beginning the process
involves solicitation from
numerous departments that will
contribute material information
to the book.
P d d of treasurer etc. You can
see the list there.
All of those directors of those
departments will provide
certifications as to
the accuracy and completeness
of the information that they
provide.
We also review publicly
available sources.
The s goes through multiple
iterations as it's developed to
make sure that we are telling
the story to the market
accurately and completely.
And then ultimately
the financing group and each of
those contributing departments
will certify to dpw g that
the process was followed and
that the content is as it's
required to be accurate and
complete.
Next slide please.
It was the post that was sent
to you was approved, reviewed
and approved by the dpw g.
You have received along with
the Disclosure Responsibilities
memorandum that I sent along
last week certifications from
the Mayor, the city attorney
and the cfo.
Along with that memorandum it
sets forth all of your as
council members your legal
obligations and it could
provide some guidance as to how
you're to meet those
obligations And also it
contains all of those
individual certifications from
departments.
And as was said before, Mirasol
stated the updates will be
provided if and when they occur
and if they are material.
And so with that we'll go to
the last slide.
And this is what you're being
asked to do to approve the form
and authorize the pos here
today.
Thank you.
That concludes
the presentation.
Yes.
All right.
Thank you for the work and for
the presentation, please.
Clerk Please proceed with
public comment for these two
items.
>> Thank you.
We'll proceed with public
comment on both items.
Maximilian Schmidt If you can
please come forward.
Then after that will be
allegedly addressed.
>> You'll have two minutes for
these items.
Please proceed.
Hi.
I just wanted to make my voice
heard here and use my First
Amendment right to say that I,
um.
I know this is only an
information agenda, but I want
to say that I, um I'm opposed
to the city investing our tax
dollars period.
Um, no matter how they invest
them even if they get $150
million aggregate total of new
money And I want to question
the cfo, the mayor and
the financing group as to
the reason I'm opposed to them
is because I believe there
could be chances for collusion
and market manipulation among
Masonic brothers inside
the market and on city council
taking our tax dollars to
invest to invest with.
And the reason why is because I
have reason to believe that
the same people who are on are
running the water system and um
could be Masonic brothers with
the city council and I believe
that um is can cause collusion
and I believe that more
attention needs to be drawn
towards um the City council and
the people in the market um and
the water system they're not
total strangers to each other.
Um, they MAY know each other
quite well and I can see how
there could be market
manipulation where if I'm if I
want to start investing my
money I feel uncomfortable If
there is Masonic brothers, um,
playing around with the market
investing money in the market
and I, I wanted to say that
maybe we should not allow
Freemasons to invest in
the market because they're
telepathic and that could cause
an unfair advantage.
>> Your time has concluded
allegedly.
Try If you can please come
forward You'll have two minutes
for both items.
>> Uh, I do appreciate Max.
He does have a little bit of a
different way of presenting
things but what he is saying is
true There is manipulation in
the market and things like
that.
So you guys want to kind of
dismiss people but if you
listen to things that they're
saying you might pick a
pointers that would bring you
back over center of what
the person is saying Because
you know the problem is is that
it's interesting that we're
always getting into debt for
the basic necessities of things
that need to be provided.
You know, the government should
have been put in place for us
to have like those basic things
like water, electricity and you
know, just the freedom of
movement and things like that.
But what happens is is that you
guys look at it as a business
so you buy and you sell water,
you know and it's like we go
into debt trying to provide it.
We can't even keep up with
the infrastructure.
I mean look at this storm $5
billion that we need for storm
infrastructure.
That's that's a disgrace And so
it's like, you know, when
the government gets into doing
things in a business manner,
they're looking at revenue and
making money and not really
just making sure that we have
these things.
That's why it's awesome to be
out in an unincorporated area
where you can have your own
water and you don't have
the city or in some, you know,
municipality or corporation
coming in and putting fluoride
and chlorine and lye and all of
these things like you guys do
you know we're able to just
from the ground drill get
the water and be able to you
know, provide for our families
in that way.
But it's like when
the government weaponizes
things And that's the problem
is that things should be benign
And on the surface it looks
that way.
But when you weaponize
something against the people
that's where corruption comes
in And so it's unfortunate that
we have to be in debt just for
things like water sewer as I in
the five minute time we're
going to those participating
remotely starting with
Christine Wellborn if you can
please on mute Are you speaking
on both items or just one of
them?
Christine while we're on hold
on one second.
I do see that you are speaking
We do not hear you here in
council chambers.
Hello.
I'm muted or you're muted.
We can't hear any of
the presentation through Zoom
or over the phone.
We are working on it If you can
give me your comments.
That's all I was calling about.
Thank you.
Blair Beckman if you can please
on All right we're Beekman Same
thing I was not able at all to
hear the presentation I'm
surprisingly I'm able to speak
a comment time on on the senior
water plant issues and I
couldn't hear the presentation
I can just offer good luck and
how we now my timer okay my
timer starting.
Good luck how we can address
water or bond issues clearly I
think we have to yes I
understand.
One minute.
One second please.
I'll be 10s I I understand that
we have an obligation to
practice quality, you know,
building I think we have to
really acknowledge for some
people it's more difficult to
pay for services than other
people and how we work on that
and consider that what we can
be doing and help in some way.
You're talking about that on
this item.
Thank you.
We are going to do one more
test before we proceed.
>> Test test.
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>> Now it's gone Well and we
have our tests that process in
place for JULY 1st that we can
run through.
We do see the microphone is
going up and down.
You can hear I'm getting
reports that it can be heard.
>> I'm just going to go to one
of our speakers online,
Kathleen Lippert, can you
confirm if you can hear
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Thank you for your patience For
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hear you.
Thank you.
My apologies again for
the technical difficulties.
>> We are ready to continue.
All right.
We're back up and operating So
with that we will turn it over
to council member questions and
comments on both items and then
take separate motions from
the two.
So anybody want to take this
off or you want me to count
the number is over there.
Thank you, PRESIDENT All right.
I want to make sure that I
understood some of the comments
at the beginning, the downgrade
that was mentioned.
What are the practical
implications of that for
the city?
Thank you Council Member First,
the downgrade was specific to
the water utility so any
impacts would be only on
the water utility, not
the general fund bonds of this
who bonds in terms of practical
impacts typically So in this
case the bonds that we are
selling in two weeks are still
going to be in the category
They were downgraded from 2 to
3.
We could see some impact on
the interest rate or the cost
of borrowing.
It's it's hard to quantify
exactly how much but in based
on my discussion with them this
bill advisor worst case there
could be an impact of about
five basis points or.05 percent
that's that's give or take but
also to get more context as we
know the interest rates are
determined the date of pricing
and there are several factors
that determine our final
borrowing rate depending on how
many other bonds are available
for sale that day.
What are the demand conditions
Macroeconomy conditions,
geopolitical conditions.
So in that context of this
rating downgrade qualitatively
could is a relatively minor and
potential impact.
Got it.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
Well with that in mind I will
move approval of the staff
recommendation Council
PRESIDENT All right.
>> We have a motion on item 333
the staff recommendation by
Councilmember de la Rivera.
I will go ahead and second and
I just want to follow up on his
question.
Well, the thing that I think
you were thinking but didn't
actually say that if there is
if everything else is stable
except for that five basis
points, this is still the right
thing for us to do at this
time.
Yes, that is correct.
Okay.
Just want to double check that
both in terms of new bonds as
well as refunding the old bonds
that is correct.
Okay.
Thank you for that.
So with nobody else on
the lights we do have a motion
by council member Eli Rivera
and second by myself to move
the staff recommendation on
item 333 please call the roll
I'm sorry the voting system
Please cast your vote that
passes unanimously 8 to 0 with
council member Von Wilpert
upset.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
right.
Thank you.
We will now adjourn as the city
council and convene at
the Public Facilities Financing
Authority to vote on the Public
Facilities Financing Authority
item Council member I'll work
on your motion again and I will
second again.
So we have a motion by council
member Eli River and the second
by myself to move pfa item for
one with that clerk please call
the roll aside the voting
system please cast your vote
and that passes unanimously 8
to 0 with Council member Von
Wilpert Absent.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
right, Thank you and thank you
to staff for the work and
taking that item early.
So with that clerk please
introduce item 504 Item 5o4 is
the amendment to the salary
ordinance for fiscal year 2027.
If you are here and wish to
speak to that item please
submit your speakers up to
the front of the room And if
you're here virtually please be
sure to raise your hand by
pressing Star nine or the raise
your hand icon.
>> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
All right.
Thank you.
So when you get a chance to
settle in, please introduce
yourselves for the record and
let us know how much time you
need So good afternoon.
Council PRESIDENT Council
Members I'm Julie Roscoe,
director of Human Resources and
with me here today is Abby Dahl
ls Deputy Director for Human
Resources.
Also with us today is Code
Advisor from the mayor's office
Rolando Chavez Chief Financial
Officer Tom Brady from the city
Attorney's office, Cornell
Allen from Risk Management who
will be joining us virtually.
We have Christy Davis here from
Personnel.
She's here in person and and
Sally Ruby and Luis Mateos from
the Department of Finance who
will also be joining virtually
We are here today to present
the amendment to the fiscal
year 2027 salary ordinance.
Our presentation will take
approximately seven minutes And
with that I'll turn it over to
Jared Belts who will watch
the presentation.
Thank you.
So as a reminder we we let you
know that on MAY 19th we will
be returning with an amendment
to the salary ordinance once
we've reached agreement with
our recognized employer.
In addition, we have now
reached agreement with our
Municipal Employees Association
or Deputy City Attorneys
Association and Local 127 So
we're going to walk you through
the changes as a result of
the implementation other than
we'll use for fiscal year 27
and then also for
the unrepresented and then with
an update for the automobile
loan for the accessory use that
were reached that you approved
earlier this morning for Natca
Local 127 for fiscal year 27
there's a 2% general wage
increase effective JULY 1 to
2026 for any abc and Local 127
There's also an equity
adjustment one equity
adjustment of 1.5% effective
JULY 1st, 2026 for the Deputy
City Attorney classification
The dca two grade of that
classification and to address
the cost saving issues of our
concessions and cost saving
measures for those increases
for general salary increases
and the equity adjustments for
the 83 and 127 the three at
recognized implementations
agreed to implement an unpaid
mandatory furlough of 40 hours
which is effective JULY 1st of
2026.
There are some exceptions to
that There are all dispatcher
classification and nine
classifications within
the Environmental Services
Department are excluded from
the mandatory furlough program
.
There's also additional 46
classifications that were
permitted the opportunity to
vote to opt out of
the mandatory furlough program.
Any of those employees who did
not participate in
the mandatory furlough program
in exchange of not having this
40 hours will not receive
the 24 hours of discretionary
leave in lieu of that of
the hourly nonstandard
employees are not are excluded
from the mandatory furlough
program.
We are still in good faith
negotiations with our local 145
local 96 and we recognize
the employer in his actions
once we have reached agreement
with those recognized employer
organizations we will return
again to amend the salary
ordinance to update the salary
tables based on those
agreements for our
unrepresented employees.
Now that we have reached
agreement with mta for
the general salary and wage
increase, the Mayor is making
recommendation of a 2%
effective the last day of
the fiscal year on JUNE 30th of
2027.
The reason for that is
unrepresented employees are not
participating in the mandatory
furlough program.
So the 2% general salary
increase which is proposed to
address connection issues will
not go into effect until
the last day of the fiscal year
on 27.
There are some exceptions for
underrepresented as well
The city attorney is
recommending for unrepresented
deputies city attorney
classification that they
receive the same salary
increase consistent with those
that are received by the Deputy
City Attorney Association
represented employees for
fiscal year 27 which means they
would get the 2% JULY 1st of
2026.
The interim classifications
which include intern, legal,
intern and senior legal intern
is not recommended to receive a
general salary increase for
fiscal year 27.
Also we have unrepresented and
unclassified sworn police and
fire department employees.
It's recommended that their
salary increases be consistent
with those reached by any
approved mou for Poway and 145
respectively.
That's based on the fact that
they supervise those
individuals.
Also there's an exception for
the police chief and the fire
chief.
It's recommended that they
receive the 2% increase with
the other end represented on
the last day of the fiscal year
to be in line with the other
chief officers that are
unrepresented as well.
The Marine safety captain is a
classified and represented
sworn lifeguard classification
and it's recommended that they
receive the salary increase
consistent with those received
by any approved local 96 mou
which has not occurred yet.
Those are the wages.
Another update to the salary
ordinance as well as
modification to the automobile
allowance Based on input from
the city council the mayor does
regular recommendation for an
exception to Exhibit f for
fiscal year 27.
The mayor will not provide a
monthly automobile allowance to
the Chief of staff and deputy
chief of staff.
With that we'd like to
acknowledge the work from all
the departments that
participate in the salary
ordinance including
the Department of Finance,
Department of Information
Technology, our office,
the Office of the City
Attorney, the office of
the ada, the personnel
department and the risk
management department.
With that that concludes our
presentation and we're
available for any questions
that you MAY have.
>> Thank you.
All right.
Thank you for the presentation.
I believe the office of
the City attorney has a
correction.
>> For the record.
Thank you, Counsel.
PRESIDENT Our office discovered
a minor minor typographical
error in the ordinance which we
will correct after the meeting
And Tom Brady will explain
more.
>> Yes.
Good afternoon.
On page six, section eight of
the ordinance there's a
reference to the unclassified
service that needs to be
changed to the classified
service That's all.
All right.
I'll leave it to my colleagues
that they have any questions
But with that clerk please
proceed with public comment.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT If
we can have Maximilian Schmidt
please come forward.
Then after that is allegedly
addressed Hi.
>> I just wanted my First
Amendment right to be to speak
on this item to be heard And I
wanted to say that I'm opposed
to the salary increases and I
believe that there's problems
in the city that I'm small
salary cut from the city
employees could really help
with.
I'm homeless and I walk every
day from the 12th imperial
subway stop to the Alpha
Project Bridge shelter and on
that walk there's so much trash
where you literally have to
kick through it And this is
every single day and you could
pay someone the minimum wage to
just pick up the trash and it
really wouldn't be too
expensive Or you could put
trash cans on that street and
if we don't have enough money
for it, maybe a small solid
maybe a small decrease in
salary could allow us to get
enough money for that.
And also I wanted to say
something else concerning
the salary increase to
the Environmental Services
Department.
Some people MAY call this a
conspiracy but in California
there's actually a ten year
plan laid out to try to
subsidize subsidize green
energy even more to try to
increase taxes on the people of
California to try to make them
intentionally more poor by
increasing property tax,
increasing sales tax and to
intentionally take the money
from the people in this giant
plot to create to make
Americans actually poorer.
And they MAY say we want to
subsidize green energy to try
and help the planet.
We're sorry that your taxes
went up but the truth is what
if they're overexaggerating
the climate to try to raise
taxes to try to bring in
tyranny, to try to bring in
the new world order to try to
create a one world government,
why would they do that?
Because evil exists And if
they've done a pagan ritual to
make them telepathic, there
could be Satan could be
commanding them to make a one
world government and do that
allegedly If you can please
come forward.
>> They are overexaggerating it
Max.
You're right about that.
Oh my gosh.
I thought you guys said 27
minutes.
I was like we're in a listen to
this for 27 minutes.
I really was like wow.
So thank you for doing that
Quickly Any who with salaries
it's like of course everybody
wants a raise.
>> Right?
And it used to be on like
the merits of what you did in
your job and like how your
excelling in your going above
and beyond like what you need
to do to make sure that you're,
you know, doing your job well
And now it's just like in a
group you know what?
Screw it.
Let's just give them all a
raise.
That's what happens.
And it's unfortunate because
people like Max or you know,
whoever it's like they're
homeless and they're just
trying to survive And it's like
your money's going to go to
give somebody else a raise.
They're going to be able to go
get their yacht you know, pay
payment on their Ferrari, you
know, or just their home Right
.
>> That has more than just
the tent size, you know, space
that you gave people intensity.
I mean good thing for those
lawsuits, right?
Leslie?
I know federal lawsuits doesn't
look good but anyway, yeah,
let's give people raises,
right?
>> And as a group let's just do
it like all of you guys Like
let's just go ahead and give
you another $100,000, right?
I mean because at some point it
would be nice if you guys were
like Listen, we really care
about the people in our
community and we're willing to
take a pay cut.
I'm willing to you know, say
that I don't need to go get
Starbucks today and I'm willing
to give that back to the people
that I represent that I'm
sitting here and saying and I'm
making their lives better.
Oh, will you have people come
in And again you guys walk over
these people when you leave
here at night I mean not like
during the day like if we leave
in the next like couple of
hours you're not going to see
them.
>> But when it becomes
nighttime and they're there we
just walk right over them.
But good thing you guys got a
raise or whoever in the you
know city is good.
>> It's good start of the five
minute time we're going to
those participating remotely.
>> Blair McMahan if you can
please unmute all right We're
big fan and thank you for this
item here.
>> I'm an experienced about
thinking I don't have an
experience in how to think and
think about issues of savvy
ordinance issues how how that
balance can be So but I'm
trying to learn and I'm I'm
definitely trying to learn to
respect that you know salary
rate increases for city
employees is important and it's
definitely morale boosting.
I've been listening to Oakland
items lately and my gosh, they
want to like have their
employee pay for their own
health care and retirement
fund.
Can you imagine in that I mean
I heard that and I was just
like that is going to cause
the morale issue And I was
surprised, you know, so they
really have to they're doing
their things to have to tighten
up their budget too.
And they're asking their
employees to pay the bill to
foot the bill.
Wow.
So I think that's a little
strong And and I think there's
ways they're trying to figure
out ways to work that out.
But guess what?
Guess why they're doing it
Because they want their social
services and the people their
community to have the social
services they need And that I
hope can be incentive for
yourselves to understand what
we're really what really being
worked on in Oakland and
the belief system involved And
it really takes dedication.
>> I mean we're we are a very
slick, large efficient city and
i just hope we learn how to
take practices to heart of and
practice the heart and good
luck how we can be doing that
The salary ordinance items and
such as the explanations I've
described before Thank you
Thank you.
That does include public
comment for this item I All
right.
>> Thank you City Clerk I'll
turn it over to my colleagues
for any questions, comments and
entertain a motion and we'll go
again to Councilmember Eli
Rivera, the council PRESIDENT.
I'll move approval All right.
And council PRESIDENT Pro tem
leave now for a second.
All right.
So we have a motion by council
member Eli Rivera, a second by
Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
to move the staff recommends
motion.
I'll just thank you for
the good work and clerk Please
call the roll.
I started the voting system.
>> Please cast your vote That
passes unanimously 6 to 0 with
council member Von Wilpert,
Council member Whitburn and
Council member Campbell Absent
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
right.
>> Thank you and thank you for
the work.
And with that please introduce
item 330.
>> Item three 30 is to
authorize the award and
execution of a sole source
contract with Adam Air
Solutions Inc.
Six votes are required pursuant
to Charter section 99.
If you'd like to speak on this
item please be sure to meet
your speakers up to the front
of the room or if you're
participating remotely now's
the time to raise your hand by
pressing Star nine or the raise
your hand icon.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
All right.
Thank you.
This is another one of those
direct docketed items because
80 I did not meet So with that
staff as you settle in please
introduce yourself for
the record and let us know how
much time you need.
>> Good afternoon.
Council PRESIDENT LaCava and
members of the Council.
My name is Patrick, our interim
Deputy director with
the Transportation Department
And with me today is Chelsea
Glacier's Deputy director with
the Transportation Department.
Our presentation takes about
five minutes.
All right, when you're ready.
Item 330 is a direct docket to
the city council like you just
mentioned Due to
the adjournment of the MAY 80th
committee and requests
the authority to award and
execute a ten year sole source
contract with Adam Ice
Solutions Inc.
Our presentation will begin
with an overview of the current
contract and look ahead to
the proposed new ten year
agreement.
We will then discuss
the factors that led to
the city to pursue a sole
source procurement approach
before providing a deeper
overview of the dot maps.
Application is functionality
and a critical role It plays in
supporting the city's project
delivery.
The current five year agreement
was execu rated in 2021 and is
set to expire this month.
The contract has a total value
of $649,000 or about $130,000
annually.
The proposed new agreement
would establish a new ten year
contract with an annual cost of
$125,000 for the first five
years and $145,000 for
the remaining five years for a
total contract value of 1.35
million.
As shown on this table in
the slide, why is this
agreement being proposed as a
sole source contract?
Dot maps is a proprietary
software owned and licensed
exclusively by Adam Air making
it unavailable through any
other vendor.
Over the past several years
the platform has become deeply
integrated into the city's
business processes, data
structures and connected
systems serving as a critical
tool for project delivery and
service coordination.
Today approximately 1000 city
users rely on dot maps to
perform the daily work
replacing the platform which
requires significant
redevelopment extensive
customization.
Staff retraining and complex
data migration efforts
resulting in substantial cost
operational disruption and
implementation risk.
Given the software's proven
performance mature integrations
and importance to maintaining
service continuity.
Continuing with the existing
platform is the most practical
and cost effective option.
The proposed ten year agreement
also provides long term
operational stability,
predictable costs and a reduced
risk for the city.
With this I hand it over to
Chelsea to go over the dot maps
application in more detail.
>> Good afternoon.
As you all know this is our
citywide project coordination
system.
It helps do project
coordination as well as be a
project finder.
We have internal facing
application as well as a public
facing application like Patrick
mentioned, we integrate data
from a number of city sources
throughout the development
services engineering capital
projects, transportation,
public utilities, stormwater
special events and external
utilities.
There was extension extensive
customization and the end
result is being able to see
everything on one on one map.
The reason why this matters is
because the city of San Diego
has a strong commitment to both
our street preservation
ordinance as well as well as a
one tick policy.
From an internal perspective
this map identifies those
conflicts and opportunities to
coordinate very early in
the process.
By doing that it saves money,
time and resources that don't
end up as real time conflicts
While people are trying to
excavate from a public facing
perspective.
It has improvements to our
customer experience including
being able to see this
information real time on a
public facing map If you're a
resident as well as some
notifications and options that
you could be you know, put in
your address, make a little box
around it.
And any project that's going to
be coming up in your area, it
will notify you ahead of time
to minimize disruptions.
So in general these this is an
extremely important platform
for the city And I will pass it
back over to Patrick.
Thank you, Chelsea.
That concludes our
presentations.
We are happy to answer any
questions.
All right.
Thank you very much for
the presentation.
Clerk Please proceed with
public comment.
>> Thank you.
Maximilian Schmidt If you can
please come up to
the microphone after that is
allegedly Audra and then Troy
Senator.
>> Hi My name is Mark Schmidt
and I just want to say that I'm
being persecuted by Freemason
and I don't know if it's
because I'm Catholic if if it's
because I do grassroots
activism or what but I've also
done a lot of act activism
against Freemasonry especially
in Washington dc and to give a
special award to a software
company is a um hurts my
feelings in a way because
computer software is one of
the way ways that um Freemasons
target me where if I'm looking
at my phone and let's just say
i'm sending someone a text
message on my phone as I send
the message a voice will come
out of my phone on harassing me
and it's state sponsored
harassment via I and via
computer softwares and
Freemasons can do that They can
target people with ai and I
feel like on that just it's
just unfortunate that we're
giving the special award to
this software company when we
don't talk about maybe nowhere
in public is that even found on
the Internet that Freemasons
used not only media and tv to
try to brainwash people to be
liberals but if you do lots of
grassroots activism um against
Freemasonry they'll even use
technology to harass you And um
it's becoming a problem And
unfortunately it's sad to say
that communism exist in America
and they're using ai to do it.
Um they're also telepathic like
from doing human sacrifices in
the Masonic Lodge So they also
can say your thoughts out loud
and mess with you
telepathically But ai is also
being used to target patriots
and it's a problem.
>> Thank you.
>> Allegedly Andre Air is
definitely going to be used for
the New World Order and
bringing in the antichrist.
We'll get into that later
However Ah this is very
dangerous and I keep talking
about it because of course
there's a monopoly on this type
of software so it's like you
have to go and get a single
source procurement for it.
They're the only ones that
provide it and you know it's
like air is very dangerous.
The people that create it even
talk about that how it can be
weaponized, how it hallucinates
I mean it can give you false
information And to say that
the customer experience is
better because of it I highly
doubt that because it's like we
you can call in and talk to a
lot even to the police and it's
like you could tell I need to
speak to this department and it
will tell you that apartment
doesn't exist And then you call
in and then you speak to like
an actual technician and
they're like Yeah, let me
transfer you.
So all I'm saying is like let's
not sugarcoat it and act like
this stuff is like going to be
beneficial.
I mean on the surface it looks
good because it's like yeah it
makes things easier but how
many jobs are people losing
because you are taking away
their ability to, you know, do
that part of the job Like
whatever information that it's
collecting.
I'm not sure where my notes are
on that And you know, just
making sure that I mean because
that's what happens people to
say oh, it's not going to take
any jobs.
It's going to make things
easier.
We're going to save money.
You know, in reality it's going
to cost us a buttload of money.
It's going to take all our
power, our fresh water because
these data centers need our
fresh water while we get our
sewage back.
How cool is that And the fact
that it's we're giving our data
to people like BlackRock and
Vanguard again it's like we
worry about these corporations
and but it's like you guys
willingly are giving all of
this information about very
critical stuff to people that
have nefarious intentions.
>> So what would you and yada
if you can please come forward
.
Okay First of all I want to go
to work for Chelsea in
transportation.
She gets five stars for helping
me this afternoon And of course
I love transportation All
around.
So thank you.
Okay.
So yes to the Adam Air I
contract ten years is okay yet
I am sure with tech
exponentially speeding up that
tech services will need to be
updated every moment.
That's an exaggeration but I
know you understand that.
So Adam I owns the platform
that the city has customized
and to be honest with you I
love this item.
It makes such a difference when
you talk to the department
That's handling it because she
got me to see just absolutely
the whole big picture of it and
it's pretty darn wonderful.
So let's see here.
I don't want to MISS Out here.
So I did that Excuse me What?
Why It matters Six items Mac
minimizes I think it's a good
minimize integrated public
facing internal facing and
saves money.
We'll take that any time we can
get it So and they have this
wonderful thing called conflict
ordination.
I hope I got that right,
Chelsea But anyway it reminds
me of when I was a therapist
and the pharmacies weren't
gathering everything together
so that everybody knew what
prescriptions were going to
this one person that I was
handling as a client.
So now this thing this conflict
ordination brings all of it
together So projects are not,
you know, bouncing all over
the place and not coordinating
with other kind and causing
conflict and risk.
So Chelsea I think that's
pretty fabulous On that
underrepresentation in Latino
female in a and I science
computer and sales no for that
concluding including that they
said they filed it thank you
thank you that took five minute
timer has started Blair Beckman
if you can please unmute Blair
Brickman I can hear me for you
.
>> Hi there.
Beckman Can you hear me?
Yes, Please proceed.
>> Thank you.
Sorry about that.
Hi.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Put this item I noticed
the mighty words one more time
that this is a ten year
contract and I just been seeing
those words a lot is how you
been doing the contract process
lately?
I'm a bit concerned by that.
>> It's a long, long time and
I'm just questioning It's as a
way to practice.
I think five years is a lot
more reasonable and it's
certainly a long time.
It's well a five year contract.
i like the ten year contract
idea in that it describes
the concepts of planning in and
how a ways that we really plan
out our future and how we
create ourselves.
I think it's very good for that
and I wish it.
Council We talked a lot, lot
more and more broad terms of 5
to 10 years and 2 to 5 years.
We have to do everything on
the fly and just at the spur of
the moment and it gets kind of
tiring and it makes
conversations limited Overall
we lack depth in how to talk
about how to see a larger
picture and making choices and
decision making.
So I like that these contracts
are at a ten year point at some
and in some ways these types of
contracts are usually reserved
for military it's my
understanding.
>> And so you get a sense of
it's conservative value and
nature and you know,
predictions and tendencies.
>> So in a way it's good.
I'm just a bit worried about it
overall but I like the idea
that we can talk in more a
broader sense about our long
term planning for our
communities.
How can we do that more here at
the everyday level in council
meetings?
I hope we can do that or that's
just all my thoughts and
feelings on this item.
Thanks for your patience.
>> Thank you.
That does conclude public
comment on this item.
All right.
Thank you.
City Clerk We'll turn it over
to council for questions
Comments Entertain a motion and
we'll start with council member
Campbell Thank you so much.
>> Just just to see if I have
this correctly, I remember a
few years back when we didn't
coordinate these things and we
ended up having one utility
tearing up the street another
coming in week later tearing it
up again.
And what this does is makes
that much better.
We coordinate all the tearing
up to try to occur at one time
So when we fix the street
afterwards it stays fixed.
So this has helped tremendously
and I really appreciate it.
Unfortunately this is the only
company that provides that but
unfortunately in that some
times most of the time
competition brings a decrease
in price.
However this price is very
reasonable a 1.35 million over
a ten year period for all this
software.
So I am very happy to make
the motion that we accept
staff's recommendation.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you.
Council members, we do have a
motion by Councilmember
Campbell to move the staff
recommendation and not oh
Councilmember Whitburn jumps in
there with a second on
the motion not seeing anybody
on the lights.
We have a motion by council
member Campbell to move
the staff recommendation
seconded by Council member
Whitburn.
>> The Clerk Please call
the roll I'm sorry at
the voting system please cast
your vote that passes unanimous
8 to 0 with Council member Von
Wilpert absent.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
right.
Thank you.
Step out.
I'll do it.
Okay.
>> So with that please
introduce item 331 Item 331 is
the second amendment to the as
needed to transportation
Engineering Services agreement
with Kimberly Hawn and
Associates h1869856 votes are
required pursuant to Charter
section 99.
If you'd like to speak to this
item please be sure to raise
your hand by pressing star nine
or the raise your hand icon.
Thank you Council PRESIDENT All
right.
Thank you.
And I see staff you've settled
in.
Please introduce yourselves for
the record and let us know how
much time you need.
All right.
We five minutes should be good
for us.
My name is Carrie Purcell.
Good afternoon.
Council PRESIDENT, Council
members.
We're happy to be here today.
My name is Carrie Purcell.
I'm a deputy director with
Engineering Capital Projects
Department Program Project
Development Division.
And with me today is Michael
Ramirez.
He's a senior civil engineer.
Our our section is responsible
for managing the as needed
engineering agreements with for
our department.
We're here today to ask for
council approval to be able to
approve a Second Amendment to
our housing to transportation
with Kelly Horne and Associates
for an additional 36 months.
We also have staff available
from the project teams If there
are project specific questions
related to the project tasks
that are being extended for
time.
So with that I would like to
turn it over to Michael Ramirez
to give you the details of that
request.
>> Thank you.
Thank you, Carrie.
My name is Michael Ramirez,
Senior Civil Engineering with
the engineering Capital
Projects.
I will be presenting the item
331.
Like Carrie mentioned is a
Second Amendment to an extended
transportation contract with
Kimberly and Horton Associates
.
>> This request is to authorize
a Second Amendment to extend
the contract duration for
additional 36 months from
the 24 months that was approved
to the Firstst Amendment.
This would be a total of 60
months from the original
contract execution.
It is a no cost time extension
to complete to test out of
the eight tests that were
approved from the First
Amendment.
A little background.
The original contract was
executed on AUGUST 23rd, 2019
for an amount of $5 million
with a five year duration.
There were a total of 22 test
every issue during those five
years.
A First Amendment for a no cost
time extension was executed on
AUGUST 2nd, 2024, which
extended the duration of eight
test for an additional 24
months.
As previously mentioned, this
contract meant the Second
Amendment would add an
additional 36 months needed to
complete to the test.
Out of the eight tests that
were approved from the First
Amendment, the new expiration
would be AUGUST 2020 nine.
>> So the first project is
the Kensington.
During the first case it is
located in District nine
Mid-City.
The scope includes a
replacement of sewer and storm
drains along with access way
within the Kenyon.
>> During the design phase,
additional environmental
requirements and coordination
efforts resulted in additional
scope including preparation of
traffic control, revegetation
plans and additional biological
survey efforts.
The project schedule as
expected was extended due to an
ongoing environmental review
Regulatory agency permitting
easement acquisition and court
and Caltrans encroachment
permit processing.
The project requires
environmental mitigation and
entitlement processing that are
associated with the impacts of
sensitive upland and wetland
vegetation including
the preparation of mitigated
negative declaration Site
development permit.
Updates to technical
environmental studies and
completion of resource agc
permitting which is currently
anticipated through JUNE 2027.
The other project is the Black
Mountain Reservoir Spillway.
It's located in District five.
The project scope is the design
and construction of an osha
compliant access stairway which
includes a chain link fence as
well as alteration to a gate
and ladder.
The design was completed last
year and the project is now
ready for construction.
We will need this consultant
through the construction phase
and as with preparation until
summer 2027.
As you can see on the screen
the equal opportunity this this
was subject to a 20% voluntary.
The achieved goal achieved we
achieved the 25% participation
which is above the goal.
>> Just to reiterate this
request is to authorize a
Second Amendment to extend
the contract duration for
additional 36 months For me for
the 24 months that was approved
in the First Amendment.
For a total of 60 months from
the original contract duration
to complete the two tests
discussed in this presentation
.
>> At this time we welcome any
questions you MAY have.
Thank you.
All right.
Thank you for the presentation.
Deputy Clerk Please proceed
with public comment.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT We'll begin
with in-person public comment.
Maximillian will be followed by
allegedly order to be followed
by Dawson to.
I just want to say that I'm
opposed to the Second Amendment
as needed Transportation
engineering Services agreement
with Kimberly Hawn Associates.
And the reason I'm the reason
I'm opposed to it is because I
have reason to believe that on
that city Council are
Freemasons and I'm opposed to
free Masons on being involved
with any of my tax dollars
period.
I do not want Freemasons
handling my tax dollars and
the reason why is because
Freemasons are also persecuting
me on believe it or not I'm not
crazy But when I walk down
the street on people say my
thoughts out loud and I believe
it's state sponsored because at
the homeless shelter which is
owned by the city I will also
get harassed there on I'm not
going to say if staff are
involved at the library where
the librarians are paid on with
our tax dollars I get harassed
by librarians on the trolley
where the trolley intercom is
paid is ran with our tax
dollars.
I get harassed on the trolley
and I get her out of
linguistics which is constantly
reading my mind and people are
constantly holding over my head
that they can read my mind And
I came in city council and city
council exposed to me that they
could read my mind and and
harass me with it.
It's called neuro linguistics
and everywhere I go I seem to
get harassed by people reading
my mind And it's Freemasons
doing it And I oppose On
the Freemasons handling our tax
our tax dollars And maybe when
everyone voted and elected
the council to office they
didn't know that they're
Freemasons.
But I'm here to expose to
the world that San Diego City
Council are all Freemasons.
>> Thank you.
That does conclude your time
allegedly order Jennifer did
you admit that your employees
are incompetent and you guys
can't make sure that you're not
ripping up the street twice
without a That is interesting
because obviously your project
coordinator and finder needs to
be because we don't need people
to do that we need to replace
their jobs with I love it to
two tasks are going to take an
extra 36 months right That's
interesting.
How much more is going to be
needed to complete one task in
48 months Feel like we're going
to come back in like, you know,
20 months and be like listen,
we need more time.
We need more time.
This is storm and sewer right?
Those things are not a
necessity I don't think I mean
we don't treat it like it
right?
I mean we need $5 billion storm
stop.
I think that's terrifying to
think about.
I mean and we have El Nino in
the wings.
You guys ready for this?
What are we going to do?
How many people are we going to
sue this time for being like
you guys aren't prepared right?
Make some money, make some
revenue for the city.
Right Because we're not
prepared So those people who
are too.
I mean they should have been
right.
It doesn't matter if you guys
take this money and put it
elsewhere.
I mean because you got your
environmental reviews, you know
all those things the permits,
all the things that you guys
require getting in your own way
of providing what you need to
provide.
>> How weird is that?
It's interesting when you see
the way the government works it
like intentionally cut its own
nose off to save its face Like
it's like And yet we're giving
people raises.
I love it.
We're so good.
I mean if you want to make
money and racketeer get into
the government.
>> Thank you for those
comments.
Joyce On the other Thank you
Kevin.
Good to see you up there.
Okay.
So yes to the Second Amendment
with Kimberly Horn on
the service agreement.
When I look at these eeoc
reports, I'm amazed when I see
as I did on this 114 that's 14
sub contracts.
Isn't that amazing to think of
how many pieces are needed for
a project So thank you for
mentioning the eeoc item.
I really appreciate that I
rarely hear that.
So I'm just getting back real
quick on many subcontractors
and it just amazes me when we
begin to think of with the time
frame and time is so crazy.
I'm dealing with time right now
.
It's crazy And all these pieces
that have to fall into place to
transportation projects and all
projects really but it just
blows me away how we can bring
those pieces together for
collaboration, coordination and
get it done.
I don't get it.
Thank you so very much.
So on the underrepresentation
we've got Latino and female in
management and financial
African-American, Latino and
Asian in professional I that
was the eeoc.
I could not find a workforce
report and they didn't allude
to it in the eeoc report so I
couldn't find it in the back up
and it might have been buried
somewhere.
But anyway I kind of MISS
Seeing the workforce report
anyway, it was a great day.
Thank you everybody for
participating.
We're in this together and
we're getting it done One step
at a time.
Love to all Thank you.
That concludes in-person public
comment for virtual public
comment I've started the five
minute timer in council
chambers.
We will now turn to the virtual
queue in which there is one
participant requesting to speak
.
Larry Beekman please begin.
All right.
We're Big Ben Thanks for this
item.
It's like some honest good work
for it.
It's it's working on our storm
drain issues it sounds like and
we really need it and thank
you.
It'll be helpful.
I was really seriously reminded
of budget time, you know, in
people's complaints you know
working on storm sewer issues,
the needs of people power and
people smarts and just putting
their heads together and coming
up with solutions.
You have some good solutions
here that will take a lot of
funding dollars and you're
going to come through and do
some nice things.
These are big project things to
me I'm trying to consider what
are the day to day things that
can just help facilitate, you
know, a good thinking process
for all of us And when we get
stuck there can be ways to move
forward.
You did that today with a few
items earlier that you know
certain practices that you
couldn't move forward with
things and there was just ways
to continue to ask Well yeah we
can do things possibly Let's
bring that out And how do we do
that more regularly And with
for instance stormwater issues
if and when they come up
Because I know previously I
would just get stuck sometimes
and like well we just got to
continue the same old same old
And I felt really stupid with
that And but you know you know
I want to be figuring that
better now and so I guess I
mentioned at this time what is
our day to day smarts to work
out of our usual routines and
to really do something good and
good luck.
>> How we can be thinking and
doing that with stormwater is
Thank you.
That concludes our comment on
item 331.
All right.
Thank you Deputy Clerk There is
no storm water or a storm
drainage in this item so just
clear that for the record I
will turn over to council
members questions comments
entertain a motion will go to
council member Aiello were
there All right thank you
Council PRESIDENT I appreciate
the presentation.
I think one question I do want
to ask though is looking at
the first part the continuing
improvements and the staff
report.
It says the consultant's task
was executed on AUGUST 23rd and
is currently set to expire on
AUGUST 23rd 2026 to
the original project based on
it has to be completion of
design by DECEMBER 20th For
however, the project schedule
was delayed for a number of
reasons or extended and I'm
trying to understand on
the front end how difficult it
was to anticipate the reasons
why we are extending Nothing
here seems say nothing but very
few of these things seem
surprising so why not just have
a timeline that better matches
what we expect the timeline to
actually be?
Yeah so I think when what
happens is during design is
more information becomes
available and as you that
information becomes ground
truth then the design gets more
refined, the project gets more
refined And so some of
the assumptions can move
around.
But I would defer to
the project management team to
get more detail on the specific
project.
>> Thank you.
Good afternoon everyone.
My name is needs to be around
senior civil engineer as it was
noted in the presentation this
project is located in
the Canyon Environmentalist
area which is required
extensive environmental and
also we are close to I-5 That
requires a permit from
Caltrans.
In addition to that when we
started the project we started
a high level.
We required at various
technical study to define
the scope of work which helps
us to understand what needs to
be built.
That is why it took a long time
to do that.
Originally when we started
the project the information
that we have was enough to
initiate it but thereafter we
did more work, more research
and put into a detail of
the project.
That is why you'll see more
amendment thereafter because we
know more about the projects I
think is not five right?
Pardon me You said it's near
five.
This is your five and your five
like the Caltrans encroachment
you mentioned the project is
close to eight which is
requiring encroachment.
I think I understood all of
that.
I guess what I'm trying
understand is again I
understand that it's
complicated.
I understand that there are
there but there's a lot that's
going into this.
What I'm not understanding
necessarily is how that was
unanticipated.
We knew it was in a canyon.
We knew it was environmentally
sensitive.
We knew that it would likely
involve working with like I'm
trying to understand that
the gap between what was
projected to be the timeline
and what is actually and what
was actually the timeline and
how much of that was actually
unforeseeable because if it's
foreseeable why aren't we
building that into the timeline
on at the beginning?
That's a very good question and
here's why this matters.
There's like one
the expectations that are set
on the status with
the expectations that are set
on the day yesterday conveyed
out to the community and it
just feels like there's a
better way to to discuss these
things on the front end so that
we're not constantly explaining
why things are taking longer
than they expect than they are
expected to take And a perfect
answer to that question I just
I think it's a fair question
Raise the yes, I think there
are assumptions made at
the early phase of design
the pre design phase and we
have timeframes we assume for
certain environmental reviews
permitting mitigation.
But what can happen is there's
sort of accumulation of all of
a sudden not often but
unanticipated like now you will
have this impact.
So you have to define
the number of of what that
impact is and so that it kind
of creates a multiplier a
little bit in terms of pushing
out the time.
So I don't think it happens on
all projects but in these
particular projects where you
have these different factors
like the various natural
resources in environmental
reviews and Caltrans they sort
of all work together to add
time Sometimes it's kind of
like the best way I can
describe it but it's probably
goes better.
Okay.
And is there not another way to
do this though?
I don't know if there's another
way to do it.
I mean I guess I would defer to
the design teams They accept a
project with certain
assumptions made, right?
Here's the scope.
Here's where it is and then
they work out what they
anticipate to be the time
frames for these different
items with Caltrans or
environmental permitting and do
their best to capture that.
And that's part of what when
you have a consultant to help
refine the project and
the design of the project then
you're going to tease out some
of these elements where you're
going to have to assume things
and then sometimes you can't
always you just can't predict
what's going to be the time
frame.
Sometimes I think that's what
it comes down to.
Okay well I won't belabor
the point.
I, I just feel like in the year
2026 with the amount of
information that we have,
the knowledge we have,
the experience we have we
should be getting better at
predicting these things not
worse And I'm not sure that
we're getting better.
So I hope that we can find a
better answer to whether or not
there's other ways ways of
doing things Um in the future
because this is it's just it's
not a good way of building
trust and it doesn't seem like
a particularly good way of
delivering what residents
expect.
Again, I know there's always
unforeseen issues that arise
whether or not they're
unforeseeable is a different
question and whether or not we
can factor at least some of
that in on the front end to
create realistic expectations I
think is an important thing to
wrestle with The standard order
of business that we just
routinely extended and extend
and extend and all of us should
just expect that except that I
think that's the part that I'm
just less accepting of at this
point.
With that I will move approval.
Council PRESIDENT Thank you.
Okay we have most of my from a
regular of to move a staff
recommendation I'm going to
jump in with my big mouth
wonder the storm drains in
there so I spoke incorrectly
what I'm guessing is I didn't
actually hear that this project
is taking longer.
You have a panel of as needed
consultants on board and as you
identify projects you decide
which project to find to which
as needed.
The duration of that as need a
consultant doesn't necessarily
line up with the project need
and so someone MAY make it.
That's correct.
That is correct.
So we're conflating
the contract of an as needed
basis with this particular
contract.
Now someone did make a decision
going this Fern's only got a
couple of years left and we
think this project is going to
get done in a couple of years
Or do we likely have consultant
team so much?
Let's go ahead and give that
anticipating that we probably
will need a time extension $0 I
think council like for $0 going
forward.
So it's that decision to award
this project to this as needed
or to this consultant that if
the glitch as opposed to this
project taking longer than one
would guess because I'm you
didn't say it so I'm assuming
this project's probably taken
as long as storms or excuse me
sewer projects in Kenyon's take
That's what I'm kind of kind of
guessing so I don't That helps
you, sir.
But I think that's where
the problem lies is should we
have gone with this consultant
for this project?
>> Yeah, I just I think what's
the original project Based on
anticipated completion of
design by DECEMBER 24th.
So there's components of this
that are in the staff report
that is speaking to when
certain things should have been
done.
There's so I probably am
conflating certain components
or aspects of this but we also
you know there's there's
certain deadlines that are
built into the staff report
that doesn't feel like we're I
call them deadlines because
once I put a date down for
something I considered a
deadline and I don't disagree
with that So but I'll be happy
to Second thought We have a
motion by Councilmember Eula
Rivera in a second by myself so
maybe my comments weren't so
helpful.
So with that I will go to
Councilmember Foster.
Yes, Thank you, Council
PRESIDENT And I do appreciate
your your approach in trying to
provide some clarification But
I think what I will add is that
the utilization of the city
contracts and this issue that
we receive when you talk about
task orders being issued and
time extension not a new
conversation it has been going
on for years and I wish
the city attorney would step in
and do a full analysis and make
sure that we are doing things
appropriately because I think
we are abusing that tool just a
little excessively out of a
matter of convenience.
I will say the other side of
this is and I would agree when
we talk about the items that
are identified as potential
delays, I would agree that
those are things that we should
have known and anticipated.
But also if we are talking
about I mean I did not look up
the specifics of the project
but if we were supposed to have
something done in 2024 I would
ask are we monitoring and
holding our consultants
accountable?
Are we looking at managing this
appropriately and using
the tool of errors and
omissions insurance to hold
them accountable as we are
doing business?
And so I think those are things
that we need to continue to
look at, discuss and review and
make sure that just as we are
held accountable for getting
work done, I want to make sure
that we are holding our
consultants and our contractors
accountable.
If they are to hit a date they
should have a darn good reason
for not hitting that date And
most of the folks that we do
work with are very, very
familiar with the I'm going to
say current conditions as they
go out and do the business that
they do, We tend to repeat
the utilization of our
consultants quite often and so
I think that's something that
we need to look at especially
as we are looking at the gap
with our ip and getting done
what we need to get done.
So I think there's some overall
management improvements that
need to be made to drive our
costs down and to hold folks
accountable so we can deliver
what we need to deliver.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT All right.
Well said.
I'm not seeing anybody else in
light.
We have a motion by council
member Eli Rivera and a second
by myself to move the staff
recommendation.
Deputy clerk please call
the roll.
Thank you.
Council PRESIDENT I have set up
the voting system.
Please cast your vote.
The item passes unanimously
with Council District five
absent.
All right.
Thank you and thank you to
staff.
We will now adjourn as the city
council and reconvene as
the public facilities Finance
Authority to vote on the Public
Facilities Finance Authority
item.
There is just one item We will
proceed with the approval of
the Public Facilities Financing
Authority minutes is just
the minutes.
Clerk Deputy Clerk Please
proceed with public comment on
the Public Facilities Financing
Authority minutes The public
comment period for the Public
Facilities Financing Authority
minutes is now open.
Please note each speaker will
have one minute per person.
The minutes being approved are
for the meetings of Tuesday
NOVEMBER 18th 2025 Tuesday
FEBRUARY 24th 2026.
Tuesday, APRIL 21st 2026.
We will begin with in-person
public comment.
Maximilian Schmidt Total Hi.
>> I first came to City Council
just to make my voice heard
because I'm being targeted and
persecuted.
I believe for being Catholic by
telepathic Freemasons who can
read my mind And I never would
have thought in a million years
that the state trolley
the state homeless shelter in
the state library and
the buildings downtown that are
persecuting me that my
persecution would lead into
city council who also
persecuted me of neuro
linguistics.
And I wanted to say I brought
up this statement before I
think on the minutes by
persecutory of neuro
linguistics they exposed to me
that they're Freemasons and
that they're telepathic and
they've done pagan rituals and
that their religion is actually
paganism and Freemasonry And I
believe that they have an
unfair advantage over
the common man because they're
telepathic and they can use a
third eye to camp out in
people's consciousness and know
exactly what they're thinking.
I think in the minutes there
should be an asterisk on who's
a Freemason and I believe that
to give up their advantage.
>> Thank you for your comments.
Next up is allegedly order
holding people accountable.
You guys are funny.
Yes with minutes sewer water,
sewer bonds.
You know, I'm a little
concerned that we're, you know,
going into debt and wasting
this money when you guys aren't
keeping up with
the infrastructure the way that
you should.
So it's like you know, I mean
we're just going to continue to
get further into debt by
utilizing these bonds And
that's what's so funny.
I mean for like with these
types of things like let's go
into debt for that but like you
know all the other stuff like
Todd Gloria, Megan his music
videos and stuff like that
where the money's there.
You know what I mean?
Like it's just very sad to see
the things that take place with
again the bare necessities of
what we need and where you
know, we're paying to even, you
know, talks of fire water.
I mean we're being given back
our own sewage like these are
things I never thought that
would like be taking place.
And again, all while data
centers and lithium mining
takes our fresh water Make that
make sense.
Thank you.
That concludes in-person public
comment.
We have no speakers in
the virtual queue.
That concludes public comment
on the public facilities
financing minutes although
there is nobody here.
We will take public comments
from the council members Any
questions or comments anybody
wants to make a motion to move
the minutes are council member
Campo Thank you sir and
the second by Council member
Campbell So we have a motion by
Council member Campion and
second by Council member
Campbell to move approval of
the Public Facilities Finance
Authority minutes The Clerk
Please call the roll outside of
the voting system please cast
your vote.
The item passes unanimously
with Council District five
absent.
All right.
Thank you Deputy Clerk We will
now take up the Public
Facilities Financing Authority
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participant Star nine We will
begin with in-person public
comment allegedly under Joe no
one's here.
We're still here And I'm saying
okay I'm saying come on Joe.
You know any who Yes, there is
a very big concern with public
utilities and these data
centers.
So community power they
couldn't hold their meeting
because they didn't notice it
properly This last time but
they were getting ready to talk
about their you know, keeping
the power on for these data
centers which I don't know what
data centers are talking about.
I'm not sure if it's like
the fusion center or what need
to find out more about that.
But while our power goes out as
the community will keep
the data centers on, does that
not concern anybody that we're
going to pay extra to keep a
data center running while
the people have no power?
Is that right?
That's that should be
concerning, isn't it?
I mean because this is where
we're headed again taking our
freshwater while we get our
sewage with what you call pure
water and then taking our power
so our power can go out in our
homes.
>> Say somebody has like an
oxygen tank.
I don't know.
Hopefully they have a generator
circuit it to But as long as
our data centers are running
we're good right?
How much more are we going to
have to pay to make sure that
happens?
And then with all these
electric vehicles and whatnot,
you know what I'm saying?
Like we're already told you you
can't use your ac The power
grid is at its max capacity but
we bring in the data centers.
So do you guys want to
sacrifice the people for data?
>> I would like to know are you
guys going to stand in the gap
for the people and make sure
that these data centers are not
priority over the people?
I appreciate you Joe, for
actually like recognizing that
this is an issue where all
the rest of the robots are
sitting here like that's not a
problem.
I mean it doesn't matter for
your kids right, Right, right,
right.
>> Thank you for that comment.
That does conclude in-person
public comment And we have no
raised hands in the virtual
queue.
That concludes public
facilities financing authority
non agenda public comment.
All right.
Thank you Deputy Clerk We will
now adjourn as the public
Facilities finance Authority
and reconvene as the City
Council.
With that we will now adjourn
Council to the next regularly
scheduled council meeting on
Monday JUNE 22nd, 2026 at 10