[8:36] and [10:45] I can get started. [10:51] Good morning. [10:52] I will now call the City [10:52] Council meeting of Tuesday JUNE [10:53] 16th 2026 to order Clerk Please [10:57] call the roll. [10:57] >> Thank you. [10:58] Council PRESIDENT Councilmember [10:59] Campbell Councilmember Whitburn [11:04] Councilmember Foster here [11:05] Councilmember Bong for Council [11:05] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee [11:09] Councilmember You Councilor [11:10] Moreno Councilmember Ella [11:15] Rivera and Council PRESIDENT [11:16] LaCava. [11:16] A quorum is now present. [11:21] We will begin this morning with [11:22] the land acknowledgment and [11:22] the Pledge of Allegiance led by [11:25] Council member Moreno Thank [11:25] you. [11:32] Please stand. [11:32] We respectfully acknowledge [11:38] that the culmination or [11:39] the original inhabitants of [11:39] the Unceded land now known as [11:44] San Diego despite enduring [11:45] the horrors of genocide and [11:45] colonization, the Kumi spirit [11:46] remains unbroken. [11:50] We honor the resilience of [11:51] their ancestors who fought to [11:52] protect their culture and land. [11:57] Today they carry their legacy [11:57] forward ensuring that their [11:58] traditions continue to thrive [12:02] in gratitude and strength. [12:03] We stand with the culmination [12:04] connected to our past and [12:09] committed to a thriving future. [12:09] Please raise the flag Put your [12:10] hand over your heart and repeat [12:10] after me. [12:15] I pledge allegiance to the flag [12:16] of the United States of America [12:20] and to the Republic for which [12:21] it stands One nation under GOD, [12:22] indivisible with liberty and [12:23] justice for all. [12:30] Eloquent as please go over how [12:35] the public can offer their [12:35] testimony. [12:36] Thank you. [12:36] Council PRESIDENT I'd like to [12:37] highlight the slide on [12:38] the screen that reveals how [12:38] the public can offer their [12:41] public testimony during today's [12:42] meeting. [12:42] Please note the time [12:43] allocations for proclamations [12:43] and consent items for meeting [12:47] management purposes The order [12:48] can be found on the agenda [12:49] Summary found online or at [12:49] the table in the back of [12:49] the room. [12:54] If you're in person please [12:55] complete speakers with these [12:56] complaints because I've looked [12:56] at the entrance of chambers and [12:57] bring it to the front of [12:58] the room in the clear box. [13:00] Council ambassadors are [13:00] available near the entrance of [13:01] chambers and can assist with [13:02] questions and speakers lips no [13:06] further into person testimony [13:07] will be taken at once [13:07] the Council begins Virtual [13:08] testimony. [13:08] Thank you Counsel Present All [13:11] right. [13:12] Thank you. [13:12] So we will begin this morning [13:13] by dispensing with the approval [13:17] of the proclamation items Clerk [13:18] Please proceed with public [13:18] comment. [13:18] Thank you. [13:19] The public comment period for [13:20] proclamations is now open. [13:21] Each speaker will have one [13:22] minute per item per person. [13:23] If you would like to speak on [13:23] three or more items you will [13:27] have a maximum of three [13:28] minutes. [13:28] The proclamation items being [13:32] approved are items 3332 and as [13:32] 503. [13:33] If I can have Jacob Lewis [13:34] Edwards please come forward to [13:38] the microphone. [13:38] And then after that is Joyce [13:39] Zenyatta. [13:44] And then after that we have [13:44] Samuel Merrill, Stephen Lynn [13:49] Lundy, Ronnie Gillett and [13:50] Johnny. [13:50] If you can all please come up [13:51] to the front row in the yellow [13:52] reserved seats. [13:55] Jacob you're speaking on item [13:55] 3031 and 32 so you'll have [13:56] three minutes. [14:00] Please proceed. [14:01] Good morning men and women of [14:02] our city council and everybody [14:02] in council chambers. [14:06] Thank you for allowing me [14:07] standing in front of you today [14:07] to speak. [14:11] Proclamation days are very [14:12] important that are to recognize [14:17] days of recognition. [14:18] >> This is a city This is a [14:22] country of the melting pot for [14:23] the people by the people. [14:24] I would like to address our [14:28] African American friends, [14:28] neighbors, loved ones, [14:34] community members that [14:35] African-American folk were done [14:39] horribly wrong in past history [14:40] and that needs to be recognized [14:44] for what's going on in our [14:45] country though is unjust for [14:45] everybody. [14:49] I spoke in front of city [14:54] Council a couple months back [14:55] and I posted it on YouTube. [14:56] If you look up Jacob Edwards [15:00] speaks on YouTube and you will [15:05] see that short clip Since that [15:06] speech what has occurred is [15:10] very concerning. [15:11] Our country had been hijacked [15:16] hijacked by the Italian mafia [15:16] and we allowed that in our [15:17] country. [15:22] Chinese espionage was on it [15:23] the entire time from the jump [15:27] and they have capitalized on it [15:28] and they are positioned and [15:28] ready to take over our [15:32] government and our country. [15:33] The deal they made with [15:37] the Federal Reserve families to [15:38] declare their debt to [15:39] the Chinese is very disturbing [15:42] to eliminate the best of [15:43] the best in our country. [15:47] So their best of the best can [15:48] come in taking our country [15:48] over. [15:53] >> This is being covered up. [15:57] Some are going along with this [15:57] . [15:58] Some who are aware are too [16:02] afraid to confront and running [16:03] from it. [16:07] I encourage everybody and [16:08] anybody that can please stand [16:08] up. [16:12] We stand up for ourselves. [16:13] We stand up for each other and [16:17] we stand up for our country and [16:18] it's time to do so. [16:19] Ladies and gentlemen, thank you [16:22] for allowing me to speak in [16:23] front of you And uh, GOD bless [16:24] the city of San Diego. [16:28] GOD bless the United States And [16:29] I will be speaking again. [16:34] >> Troy Senator, if you can [16:34] please come forward. [16:35] You're speaking items 30 and [16:37] it's 503 so you'll have two [16:37] minutes. [16:38] Please proceed. [16:40] I think you have 30 Jewish [16:41] American Heritage Month. [16:45] The Jewish people have existed [16:46] for over 3000 years coming from [16:51] all races, backgrounds and [16:51] countries across the world. [16:56] Perhaps there is only one [17:00] family tree growing on our [17:01] beautiful earth. [17:04] Then we could say one people [17:05] one family one world. [17:10] Love to all the members of that [17:10] beautiful family tree. [17:10] All right. [17:18] As five over three Juneteenth [17:19] 2026 date perhaps the roots of [17:23] the family tree that I just [17:27] spoke of for the Jewish people [17:28] are the roots of freedom for [17:32] all peoples. [17:33] Just imagine how strong that [17:38] tree would be, how beautiful [17:42] that tree would be with all [17:43] family members living in [17:43] freedom And that coming from [17:47] the very roots of that tree. [17:51] When I Googled the movie Roots [17:52] an image of a young black boy [17:57] with heavy manacles on his [18:01] wrist appeared It wasn't [18:02] the manacles that stood out to [18:06] me it was the piercing look of [18:07] struggle and suffering in his [18:11] eyes that looked out at me. [18:12] And it was really, really tough [18:16] for me to keep my look into his [18:17] eyes. [18:17] Love all of you. [18:21] Thank you very much for coming. [18:22] Sorry for your struggles but [18:26] we're together and we're doing [18:26] it okay. [18:27] >> Love to all. [18:27] Thank you. [18:31] Samuel Merrill. [18:32] You have Johanna Harriet. [18:35] Please raise your hand. [18:36] >> Thank you. [18:36] Oh, Jonathan. [18:40] Sorry. [18:41] >> You'll have two minutes on [18:41] items. [18:41] 5 or 3. [18:42] Please proceed. [18:42] Thank you. [18:46] Good morning, Council members. [18:46] i am Samuel Merrill. [18:50] As we celebrate Juneteenth, we [18:51] honor a defining moment in [18:52] American history the day when [18:55] the last U.S. The last enslaved [18:56] African-Americans learned of [18:56] their freedom. [19:00] Juneteenth reminds us that [19:01] freedom today is freedom denied [19:04] and that progress often comes [19:05] only through persistence, [19:06] sacrifice and struggle. [19:10] Today as a city we acknowledge [19:11] that historical inequities [19:14] helped shape many of [19:15] the disparities we continue to [19:16] see in our communities. [19:16] We have recognized [19:20] the importance of pursuing [19:20] equity in our policies and [19:24] budgeting decisions and our [19:25] investments in communities that [19:26] have too often been overlooked [19:29] Where progress has been made. [19:30] The work is not complete. [19:34] Juneteenth is not only a [19:34] celebration of black heritage, [19:35] resilience and achievement. [19:38] It is also a call to action. [19:39] It reminds us that justice and [19:43] equity are ongoing pursuits [19:44] that require a commitment and [19:44] accountability. [19:45] As we reflect on [19:48] the significance of Juneteenth, [19:49] let us celebrate how far we [19:53] have come, where we made and [19:54] committed to the work that lies [19:54] ahead. [19:55] I mean this observance [19:58] encourage us to continue [19:58] pursuing justice, expanding [19:59] opportunity and building a city [20:03] where equity is a reality for [20:03] all. [20:04] >> Thank you. [20:04] Thank you. [20:06] Next we have Steven Lundy for [20:11] item 31. [20:12] >> Good morning City Council [20:12] Chambers. [20:13] I would like to thank [20:14] the Council and particular [20:17] council members Whitburn and [20:17] Capello for their sponsorship [20:18] of the proclamation recognizing [20:22] the sunnier Scottish Highland [20:22] Games and gathering plans for [20:23] its 50th holding of [20:27] the Highland Games in San Diego [20:27] and Sydney County. [20:30] The Games as you refer to it as [20:31] similar to Seven Rings Circus [20:31] with several events and [20:32] competitions running [20:32] concurrently. [20:36] The competition is are heavy [20:37] athletics where various classes [20:38] and athletes are throwing heavy [20:42] things for distance or height [20:42] whether it be a hammer [20:43] the Panama stone, a corn sheaf [20:47] and of course the caber where a [20:47] perfect score is given for [20:48] turning in line and the caber [20:49] at 12:00 Street in front of [20:50] the thrower. [20:50] The origins of the Scottish [20:54] Athletics is before the modern [20:55] Olympics Highland dancing [20:59] dancers compete in classes of [21:00] age and proficiency. [21:00] They perform a highland fling [21:04] with arms like a Gloria Stag [21:05] The sword dance over crossed [21:06] swords to celebrate a victory [21:09] in battle. [21:09] The show entries are all [21:10] trousers another celebration [21:13] kicking of them down trousers [21:14] after the act of prescription [21:15] was lifted. [21:15] >> Thank you for that [21:16] concluding sentence. [21:19] I'm sorry it is one minute but [21:20] if you have written comments [21:20] you can definitely give them to [21:21] my staff and they can pass it [21:24] around for the council to [21:24] continue reading them. [21:25] Thank you. [21:25] Thank you. [21:26] Would you like to leave here? [21:30] Ronnie Gilet You have people in [21:30] your time. [21:34] Stay and. [21:35] >> Jenny Yes I would like to [21:39] call Jennifer sitting for me [21:40] for our large community and [21:40] then Berlin. [21:43] >> Thank you. [21:43] You'll have three minutes. [21:49] Please proceed. [21:49] >> Good morning. [21:52] Think guests It Officials. [21:53] Community leaders, clergy [21:57] members, friends and members of [21:58] the Asian community On behalf [22:04] of our community I want you to [22:05] listen Really Just think of [22:08] the responsable community of [22:09] village clergy or the me or mom [22:11] who do la Community action on [22:12] behalf of all of our community. [22:13] It is my great honor and [22:17] privilege to welcome you to [22:17] this special Asian launch [22:23] celebration Or don't do local [22:24] communities that are weak and [22:24] learn to know in a most [22:28] privileged casual sweat lap you [22:29] have the asset Celebration [22:32] Special Gym where you put in [22:32] one Asia. [22:33] Today we gather not only to [22:35] celebrate the history, culture, [22:36] resilience and contribution of [22:41] the Asian people but also to [22:42] recognize an individual who [22:45] with the leadership service and [22:46] dedication of positively impact [22:52] countless lives in our [22:53] community. [22:53] >> Also genius Summary We need [22:56] no social map to celebrate Le [22:57] Soir Le coutu le resilience [23:05] contribution Asia simple will [23:07] connect a person new leadership [23:08] new service in the development [23:11] of an impact positive Xu Lin on [23:12] behalf of the percent do not [23:15] call community First I would [23:16] like to express our sincere [23:17] gratitude to the members of [23:20] the City Council community [23:21] organization, volunteers, [23:25] sponsors and all those who work [23:25] tirelessly to make this [23:26] celebration possible. [23:31] >> To the you are expecting me [23:32] and not with sincere gratitude. [23:35] Oh my GOD You can say municipal [23:36] or organization communautaire [23:46] or the been involved or partner [23:47] are to say I saw we lost ground [23:49] We said celebration possible [23:50] what we should chant the most [23:50] important diversity [23:52] the language eligible to know [23:52] your communautaire de la ville [23:53] de son your support demonstrate [23:55] the value of diversity [23:55] inclusion and community [23:56] partnership in the city of San [24:00] Diego. [24:01] We specially thank the City [24:01] Council for recognizing [24:05] the contribution of the Asian [24:05] American community and for [24:06] providing opportunities that [24:10] strengthen unity among all [24:16] people newcomers particularly [24:17] among conserved municipal [24:17] people. [24:21] Our work on la Contribution de [24:21] la Community Asian American [24:26] warfare the supporting taking [24:27] of force unity outward to less [24:29] it while your commitment to [24:30] honoring cultural heritage and [24:30] preserve destroys traditions [24:35] and values that enrich our [24:35] city. [24:40] Volcanic ash alone no rain No [24:41] no Patrimoine cultural and [24:41] attribute appraisal will [24:46] destroy La Traditionnelle value [24:50] key are she's not going will [24:50] Today we are especially proud [24:54] to honor pathogenic sida as an [24:54] ambassador of the San Diego [24:55] Asian community Osuji know some [25:01] particular must hear Durand [25:04] Omar's opus still Johnny Oxy [25:05] the Ambassador de la community [25:06] icn de San Diego This [25:08] recognition reflects years of [25:09] faithful leadership, community [25:10] service and unwavering [25:14] commitment to helping others [25:15] set locally sourced reflect [25:19] design need to leadership [25:20] fidelity do service [25:24] communautaire Dunga Azuma Costa [25:25] Villa Azuka Pasteur Do you see [25:28] that as serve not only as [25:29] spiritual leader but also as a [25:30] mentor advocate and bridge [25:34] builder with our community? [25:35] Pastor Johnny Oxytocin [25:38] witnessed remarkable leader [25:47] Spiritual command [25:47] The difference about his shall [25:48] do not only percent do not a [25:52] community glass ashram diploma [25:53] did no good swami or two We [25:54] acquire all plantation Esquire [25:54] to ease dedication Many [25:57] families have found [25:57] encouragement, guidance and [26:02] hope Yes is leadership reminds [26:02] us that you influence is [26:07] measured not by titles but by [26:07] service. [26:08] He has consistently [26:11] demonstrated compassion, [26:12] integrity and a genuine desire [26:20] to uplift or death. [26:20] So leadership not our pelikula [26:21] very top influence. [26:22] This means your Palm Pilot [26:23] quality public service [26:28] eloquence to multimode Raila [26:29] compassion and integrity This [26:32] your sincere deal really Azuka [26:33] says If all can foresee la will [26:33] assure us singular [26:38] communication our who is the la [26:38] collaboration avec some did our [26:40] community do some is efforts [26:41] have threatened relationship [26:42] within the Asian community and [26:45] fostered collaboration with [26:45] the broader San Diego community [26:50] as ition. [26:51] We take pride in our heritage a [26:55] heritage mark by courage, [26:55] perseverance, faith and freedom [27:02] are Takai I some here do not [27:03] editors and heritage more [27:05] capable guys love perseverance [27:10] love what La de la Libert\ [27:11] least what I see corny this [27:14] strongly popular German art [27:15] history continues to inspire [27:15] people around the world and [27:20] today we celebrate those values [27:21] through the example of leaders [27:26] like Passage on You See that [27:26] tells you that today We thank [27:29] you for your dedication, your [27:29] vision and your commitment to [27:34] serve to serving GOD's people [27:34] in our community is also [27:35] unassailable. [27:38] >> Several articles will exempt [27:39] the leader Telco Louis Pasteur. [27:45] DR. John Yuxi the doctor said [27:46] the osuji know for what mission [27:49] what we did, what we vision [27:50] evoking engagement with service [27:51] you pep did you it do not [27:53] according to your work as live [27:54] a lasting impact and this honor [27:55] as ambassador of the standing [27:58] ovation community is both [27:58] well-deserved and deeply [27:59] appreciated. [27:59] >> Thank you for that [28:04] concluding comment. [28:05] >> I'll let you finish [28:05] translating that concluding [28:06] comment. [28:06] Okay. [28:09] What I will say in a point you [28:10] have issued on air a I do do [28:14] la community I seen this San [28:17] Diego airplane my military a [28:18] pro forma appreciate thank you [28:18] so much. [28:19] Thank you very much Merci [28:22] beaucoup. [28:23] >> Thank you. [28:23] Next is Johnny. [28:23] Johnny. [28:24] Oh, that was you. [28:26] Okay. [28:31] Maximilian Schmidt, you are [28:32] speaking on items s503 item 32. [28:38] >> Item 31 and item 30 You'll [28:38] have three minutes to speak on [28:43] all of those items. [28:48] Hi. [28:48] Hi. [28:51] I just wanted to talk about [28:52] item 30 Jewish American [28:57] Heritage Month on the Masonic [28:57] lodges down the street have a [29:02] the star of David on it and [29:03] also the Seal Solomon And for [29:07] me having a whole month on [29:11] where this is celebrated is [29:12] already impressing on me [29:13] because I'm being targeted by [29:16] Freemasons And so that's hard [29:17] for me as a Christian because I [29:18] feel like I'm already being [29:21] persecuted And for the Haitian [29:22] Flag Day I'm just out here [29:23] making points that I think [29:26] someone has to make if no one [29:27] else is going to make them. [29:31] Um, Haiti is widely considered [29:32] one of the most corrupt [29:32] countries in the world and [29:33] their people are some of [29:36] the poorest and the is [29:37] the poorest country in [29:41] the Western Hemisphere And I [29:42] like I'm just curious how for [29:42] the we celebrate Jewish [29:47] American heritage Month and [29:47] Haitian Flag Day I wish we [29:48] could celebrate I think [29:52] the people from Haiti are some [29:53] of the friendliest people. [29:56] Some of them are my neighbors [29:57] But I wish we could separate [30:01] the flag from the people [30:02] instead of having Haitian Flag [30:06] Day Maybe on Haitian Heritage [30:06] Day. [30:07] And the reason why is because I [30:11] used to live in a third world [30:11] country in Namibia, Africa and [30:16] I visited the slums and I know [30:16] what it's like to walk around [30:20] that area And I volunteered [30:21] there And I think there's [30:22] people in Haiti who MAY feel [30:26] oppressed by the Haitian flag [30:27] where the government is rich [30:28] and the government has all [30:28] the money. [30:30] I think it's actually been [30:31] considered state capture what's [30:35] going on in Haiti and I'm just [30:36] here to make the point. [30:36] Having a flag that's that [30:40] celebrates the most corrupt [30:41] government in the world and [30:41] the poorest country in [30:45] the world due to the government [30:46] corruption where the government [30:46] sitting fine in Haiti and [30:47] they're flying the flag over [30:50] their mansions. [30:51] And I just wanted to say I wish [30:54] we got Haitian Heritage Day, [30:59] not Haitian Flag Day And again [30:59] separate the people from [31:04] the country and I think a lot [31:05] of people in Haiti MAY even see [31:09] more freedom in the American [31:09] flag than the Haitian flag of [31:10] the people actually in Haiti [31:14] And I just wanted to say for [31:18] the other for Juneteenth Day [31:23] and I have no comment on that. [31:24] And for the Scottish Highland [31:28] Games Day, um when I think of [31:33] Scottish heritage I think of [31:34] how I'm being persecuted by [31:38] the Masonic Lodge for being a [31:38] Christian And I honestly think [31:42] of the Scottish Rite and again [31:43] I have two things that resemble [31:44] Freemasonry and then a Haitian [31:48] Flag Day resembling a corrupt [31:48] government. [31:49] >> I'm oppose I oppose then [31:53] that does confuse your time [31:53] allegedly. [31:54] Andre, if you can please come [31:55] forward you'll have two minutes [31:56] speaking on items 30 and that's [32:01] 503 32 I'll add the minute and [32:05] add that to your time So so you [32:05] guys in your proclamations it's [32:06] interesting how much time we [32:09] spend on this and then how much [32:10] time we spend on doing [32:11] the business that needs to be [32:11] done like with consent throwing [32:14] all these things you know and [32:15] you know one thing one vote and [32:19] all that and you know it just [32:19] feels like you guys want to get [32:20] through business, you know, and [32:24] make these times seem like [32:24] everything is all right. [32:25] And you know, Max had a really [32:28] good point about the Haitian [32:29] flag and celebrating that [32:34] because that could be seen by [32:34] some individuals as something [32:38] that is like an enslavement. [32:39] I mean I'm starting to see [32:39] the American flag is kind of an [32:43] embarrassment because of all [32:44] the things that happen in our [32:48] nation and the enslavement that [32:49] happens with the people. [32:53] And that's why even with [32:53] Juneteenth it's like, you know, [32:57] nobody's free. [32:58] I mean we can celebrate these [32:58] things because nobody should be [33:02] enslaved But you know, as as a [33:03] mass as a group, as all of us [33:07] we are being enslaved because [33:07] if you look at what's happening [33:08] across the world, I mean people [33:12] are, you know, suffering. [33:12] I mean they're just trying to [33:16] survive and then, you know, [33:17] the government's here to put [33:18] you in all these programs and [33:21] it's like a prison cell that [33:22] you guys put people in and you [33:26] create dependance and the need [33:27] for you know, people to come [33:31] and get services But then you [33:32] don't even really provide [33:32] the services that need to be [33:35] you guys take our money and you [33:36] racketeer with it. [33:37] It's really sad and it's like [33:38] you know behind all of these [33:41] proclamations there's so much [33:42] more that needs to be talked [33:44] about And that's why Ephesians [33:45] 511 is so important because [33:46] we're in a spiritual battle and [33:49] we have been since [33:50] the beginning of time And for [33:51] those of you that believe you [33:54] should really see that and [33:55] that's why we're not supposed [33:55] to engage with this spiritual [33:59] works the works of spiritual [33:59] darkness but we're rather to [34:00] approve them. [34:04] And so sometimes that means [34:04] saying things that people [34:05] aren't going to like hearing. [34:06] But I feel like when we are [34:09] celebrating Jewish heritage, [34:10] you know, we don't talk about [34:14] the things like you know that [34:15] in the Talmud you know, a three [34:18] year old plus one day is able [34:19] to consent to having sex that's [34:24] pedophilia that Moyles will go [34:24] in and orally copulate also [34:29] known as rape boys who have [34:29] been circumcised And that's [34:30] actually a satanic ritual to [34:34] the blood of a child like that. [34:38] And it's just sad that that can [34:39] happen in front of so many [34:39] people. [34:40] I mean this is why the abuse of [34:43] children continues because [34:43] people brush stuff like this [34:44] under the rug And Israel is a [34:48] pedophile sanctuary. [34:49] It's a place where people can [34:53] go and not have any you know, [34:53] accountability for children. [34:57] And again, America is [34:58] the biggest consumer of child [34:58] porn. [34:59] It gets distributed across all [34:59] over. [35:02] I mean you guys have had [35:03] officers that have you know, [35:06] are being charged with that So [35:07] thank you for that remark. [35:11] >> Sidney Cooper Jr After that [35:12] we have Jason Shanley If you [35:13] can please come up to [35:16] the yellow reserved seats [35:17] Sidney to the microphone and [35:18] Jason Shanley up to the hill [35:21] reserved seats. [35:21] >> Please proceed. [35:22] I just wanted to thank you for [35:23] the acknowledgment of [35:26] Juneteenth the Cooper Family [35:26] Foundation. [35:27] The gentlemen spoke before [35:30] about Juneteenth and its [35:31] importance in its history and I [35:31] don't want to go over that but [35:32] I would like to say something [35:35] about my mother and father and [35:35] being in southeast San Diego [35:36] and wanting to celebrate [35:37] Juneteenth coming from [35:40] the South there's pretty much [35:41] three pillars to [35:41] the celebration. [35:45] One is healing the community, [35:46] bringing the community together [35:46] in education. [35:47] Part of that education is going [35:50] to be honoring the people who [35:50] came before us. [35:54] That was part of the enslaved [35:55] people the Emancipation [35:56] Proclamation then all the way [35:59] through Jim Crow and [36:00] segregation and coming together [36:01] as a community to heal. [36:04] Just wanted to thank [36:05] the council for having me and [36:05] my family here [36:06] The acknowledgment of [36:08] Juneteenth and [36:09] the accomplishments of all [36:09] Americans and making this day [36:14] become a national day because [36:14] that was the really vision of [36:18] my father's making Juneteenth a [36:19] national holiday. [36:19] We've been celebrating [36:20] Juneteenth for over 55 years [36:25] ever since I was a little kid [36:26] And I went to the point with my [36:26] heart. [36:26] So thank you so much. [36:27] Thank you for that. [36:27] Thank you, Mark. [36:28] Thank you for the time. [36:28] >> Thank you. [36:32] Jason Chandler Yeah, I'm Jason [36:33] Shelly I'm just speaking [36:34] because I have the ability to [36:36] and I think it's important to [36:37] exercise rights when we have [36:37] them. [36:38] Very grateful for City Council [36:41] remembering Juneteenth. [36:42] What I was thinking about on my [36:43] way down here was people [36:46] toiling and not understanding [36:47] that freedom was around [36:48] the corner And what I was [36:51] thinking to myself and maybe to [36:51] remind leaders and people that [36:52] MAY be struggling for a [36:55] particular cause I think it's [36:56] important to remember that [36:57] sometimes the freedom has come [37:00] and we just haven't the message [37:01] hasn't been delivered yet. [37:02] And so to me it was a silver [37:06] lining in Juneteenth that [37:06] freedom was always available. [37:07] It's just that people just [37:07] didn't know. [37:10] And so I just wanted to [37:11] encourage everybody to see it [37:11] through. [37:12] Thank you for all that you do [37:15] Thank you for continuing to [37:15] remember these things and I [37:16] hope that we can get to [37:17] the point at some point where [37:20] we realize that to be little [37:20] celebrations of people that are [37:25] here in America try to enjoy [37:25] what they enjoy I think is a [37:26] disservice to the things that [37:27] we fought for. [37:29] So thank you for everything. [37:30] >> Thank you for remembering [37:31] Juneteenth. [37:31] GOD bless. [37:31] Thank you. [37:34] That does conclude public [37:35] comment here in council [37:35] chambers going to those [37:39] participating remotely. [37:40] We have one person in the queue [37:44] right now Blair Beekman If you [37:45] can please unmute and let me [37:45] know which item or items you [37:46] wish to speak to. [37:49] All right. [37:50] We're Beekman. [37:53] I wanted to speak to item 3032 [38:00] and ask the 5 or 3. [38:00] >> Please proceed. [38:01] Actually please do not proceed. [38:05] We do have Robin Todd also that [38:06] wanted to speak on this. [38:09] Robin Todd, I'll be coming back [38:14] to you for your speaking on [38:23] items 503 You you'll have one [38:24] minute Please proceed. [38:24] Good morning City Council. [38:25] My name is Robin Todd. [38:29] I'm a field representative for [38:29] Assemblymember DR. Sharp [38:32] Collins of the 79th Assembly [38:32] District. [38:33] I'm here today to thank [38:36] the city to San Diego City [38:36] Council for recognizing [38:37] Juneteenth JUNE 19th as a day [38:41] of reflection and celebration. [38:42] It serves as a reminder of [38:43] struggles and sacrifice where [38:46] our ancestors is but also a [38:47] source of enormous pride in [38:52] the Brazilian. [38:52] Let us use this opportunity to [38:56] celebrate our history and and [38:57] strength, achievements and [38:57] contributions of our ancestors. [38:58] Thank you again for bringing [39:03] this forward. [39:13] >> And then Lauren Cobbs. [39:13] Hello everyone. [39:14] My name is Lauren Cobbs and [39:18] the founder of sd Melanin and I [39:19] just want to say thank you for [39:22] your support and providing [39:23] space for national Juneteenth [39:27] celebrations here in San Diego [39:28] . [39:28] So we've been creating [39:29] experiences for our community [39:33] to celebrate Juneteenth since [39:34] 2018 and we're just really [39:38] honored and really blessed to [39:38] be able to provide this And [39:39] thank you for the support of [39:40] Juneteenth. [39:43] Thank you. [39:44] Thank you. [39:44] That does now include public [39:45] comment here in council [39:45] chambers. [39:47] So during the five minute timer [39:52] Blair Beckman if you can please [39:52] unmute again and you'll have [39:53] three minutes. [39:57] Please proceed. [39:57] >> All right. [39:58] We're Beakman again. [40:00] I traveled out to Cooma this [40:01] week and I'll be staying here [40:08] and so my zoom MAY be off and [40:08] on sometimes and that be why [40:11] it's happening It it's the case [40:12] but it's really nice here by [40:15] the way Very nice mineral ponds [40:16] they have here for swimming [40:17] It's really interesting Human [40:21] park I wanted to comment I [40:24] guess I had three items to [40:25] start with Item 32 in [40:27] the middle of Haitian flag Day [40:32] An interesting item to have. [40:33] Thank you. [40:34] I think we all can very much [40:36] respect what Haitian culture [40:41] adds to our world basically and [40:42] thank you for public comment to [40:47] question the Flag Day itself. [40:48] But interestingly I think that [40:49] Flag Day in the very least can [40:52] be able having it here can at [40:53] least allow us to ask those [40:53] questions that were asked today [40:57] and in that sense we can have a [40:58] more open broad conversation [41:01] and thanks for [41:02] the conversation. [41:06] We had other items 5 or 3 [41:11] Juneteenth 2026 day Thank you [41:11] for this and for the history [41:12] lesson I learned today. [41:16] It was it was explained very [41:17] nicely how to consider a sense [41:21] of freedom even when yeah [41:21] there's freedoms available even [41:22] when we don't think we have [41:26] them And it's nice that we [41:26] acknowledge that that we can [41:31] work for a sense of what our [41:32] better selves are and a look [41:35] how we can find that and how [41:36] that relates to the Jewish [41:40] American Heritage Month. [41:41] We're at an important time in [41:41] San Diego and across [41:45] the country how to address our [41:46] relationship between Israel and [41:50] the Middle East and and what's [41:54] that relationship with America [41:55] And I think we're learning and [41:59] San Diego important lessons [41:59] over things like the ira [42:04] contract that was recently [42:04] the item we had yesterday at [42:09] Council on Somali issues. [42:09] >> People are being feeling [42:10] fearful of their own belief [42:14] systems and need help And I [42:15] hope in San Diego we can learn [42:18] to take that is not flattery [42:19] but a real process of working [42:23] together towards answers And I [42:23] hope people with the ira issues [42:24] can be open to suggestions and [42:28] ideas and that we build it as a [42:29] form of democracy. [42:33] >> You know in San Diego and I [42:34] know that it's uncomfortable to [42:38] people of the Jewish faith [42:38] right now to work towards [42:39] the concepts that are called [42:40] democracy because it often [42:43] involves a lot of good Muslim [42:44] ideas and Muslim input. [42:47] >> But I hope that that's our [42:48] that's a good point here in [42:49] America what we can do together [42:53] and that I think can give great [42:53] examples to Israel for [42:54] the future what we can do well [42:57] here together in this country. [42:58] So I hope we work on ira things [43:02] work on its language is needed [43:02] as a poor community. [43:03] >> It also has concluded [43:08] Kathleen Lippert, if you can [43:08] please unmute and then Judy [43:11] Strong Thank you. [43:12] >> Good morning, Counsel. [43:13] It is important to recognize [43:16] all groups have members who are [43:17] I'm sorry what items are items [43:18] that you want to speak to? [43:21] >> Oh 3031 And that's final [43:22] three. [43:22] >> Okay. [43:22] Thank you. [43:26] Please proceed. [43:27] >> It is important to recognize [43:27] that all groups have members [43:30] who are unethical and immoral [43:31] but there are always good [43:35] people within those groups. [43:36] Jews have contributed greatly [43:37] despite contributions [43:41] representing a very small [43:44] number of their population 40% [43:45] of Nobel laureates in [43:50] economics, 26% in physiology [43:51] but 24 in physics. [43:54] DR. Ito for Eckert though was [43:54] one of the most important [43:55] the Hungarian born Jewish [43:56] Holocaust survivor. [43:59] She became renowned [43:59] psychologist, celebrated for [44:04] her expertise on trauma, [44:04] recovery and resilience for [44:05] those suffering from ptsd Of [44:09] all origins, her philosophy [44:10] from which we all can benefit [44:14] was that suffering is [44:14] inevitable. [44:15] Victimization is a choice. [44:19] She asserted that people can [44:20] heal by letting go of hatred. [44:24] She died this last APRIL. [44:25] >> Her memoir The Choice is her [44:29] journey from Ashridge to find [44:30] freedom in her mind And it is a [44:31] powerful message for all of us [44:39] today regarding s five o three [44:40] Juneteenth I agree with [44:41] the earlier comment that it is [44:41] important to recognize [44:44] the rights we have and [44:44] celebrate reminders to [44:49] telegraph those rights. [44:50] >> Sometimes we are not aware [44:51] of them, sometimes we make [44:55] false assumptions and so [44:55] clarifying the record is indeed [45:00] important And regarding I am 31 [45:01] five decades of Scottish [45:05] heritage tradition music but [45:06] Scottish contributions were [45:10] also for us philosophers [45:11] discoveries Adam Smith, [45:12] Alexander Graham Bell James [45:16] Kurt Maxwell, Robert Burns. [45:17] Lois Robert Louis Stevenson. [45:18] Sir Walter Scott That was it. [45:22] And James Clerk Maxwell All of [45:23] us all of our individual [45:27] populations have such [45:28] remarkable people like these. [45:32] We should never broad brush [45:33] each other. [45:33] It is an unfair It's very [45:34] unfair. [45:34] Okay. [45:34] Thank you. [45:38] That's all I want to say. [45:39] >> Thank you, Judy. [45:40] Strange if you can please [45:43] unmute. [45:43] >> Good morning. [45:44] I'm just speaking to item 31. [45:49] Thank you. [45:50] Felt as a strain by marriage [45:53] that I had to salute also [45:54] the Scottish tradition of [45:55] dancing and singing and having [46:00] a good time. [46:01] They are deeply known for their [46:01] fierce patriotism and the rich [46:06] storytelling and they are [46:06] famous for an adventure. [46:07] One was mentioned previously [46:11] that I also would add [46:12] the telephone by Alexander [46:12] Graham Bell the television by [46:18] John Logie vide and penicillin. [46:18] My husband the pharmacist [46:22] reminds me discovered by Sir [46:23] Alexander Fleming and of course [46:24] the steam engine that changed [46:28] the West developed by James [46:28] Watt. [46:29] Thanks for this opportunity to [46:30] call attention to the mix of [46:34] people we have across [46:34] the United States that come [46:35] from countries that have [46:39] wonderful traditions that [46:40] enriched us all when they [46:41] brought them here to America. [46:41] >> Thank you. [46:42] Thank you. [46:46] That does include public [46:47] comment on the proclamation [46:47] thanking us for that. [46:48] >> All right. [46:48] Thank you for the carcass. [46:49] I'll turn it over to my council [46:51] colleagues for comments and [46:51] entertain a motion. [46:52] >> We'll start with Council [46:53] member Campbell Thank you. [46:55] Council PRESIDENT I would first [46:56] like to make a motion that we [46:56] pass all the proclamations I'd [47:01] like to speak about item 30 as [47:06] five of three and item 31 [47:07] briefly on item 31 since I am a [47:07] Campbell a huge clan in [47:12] Scotland even though I married [47:12] the name I am just delighted [47:17] with being a Campbell And so I [47:18] want to thank you for that [47:24] proclamation and enjoy [47:24] the Highland Games. [47:25] I'd like to speak also on [47:25] Juneteenth. [47:29] It's so important that we [47:30] remember forever that day. [47:35] This reminds me of Passover. [47:36] We Jewish people celebrate our [47:37] liberation from Egypt Slavery [47:42] back thousands of years when [47:42] Moses led us out of slavery And [47:47] I, I think of the of [47:48] the spiritual go down Moses I [47:54] think of the connection between [47:55] black people and Jewish people [47:55] and there were many black [48:00] people who actually are Jewish. [48:06] And I'm just so honored that we [48:06] are celebrating Juneteenth And [48:12] let us never forget that day [48:12] ever. [48:13] A thousand years from now let [48:14] us all celebrate Juneteenth. [48:18] It's so important to remember [48:23] And I also want to speak on [48:23] item 30. [48:24] Jewish American Heritage Month [48:24] was last month in MAY but we [48:29] had so many breaks that we were [48:29] able to give this proclamation [48:30] at that time. [48:35] This is a time when we honor [48:36] the Jewish-American community [48:37] which has been in America since [48:40] the very beginning of our [48:41] nation. [48:46] Judaism teaches us nothing of [48:47] what that person spoke of. [48:48] That is a lie and that is [48:52] completely anti-Semitic and [48:53] wrong and incorrect. [48:59] The Jewish religion teaches us [48:59] that we are all one people all [49:00] of us. [49:07] Shamar I Israel on an oil here [49:10] of Israel The Lord is one [49:10] The Jewish people brought [49:11] the concept of one GOD to [49:16] the world. [49:16] It is our responsibility as [49:17] Jews and as all of us to care [49:22] for our communities and to [49:22] uplift each other. [49:23] When a Jewish synagogue in [49:27] Patchway was targeted in 2019 [49:28] resulting in one woman who had [49:28] died from her injuries and [49:33] three other people injured, all [49:34] the San Diego residents of all [49:34] backgrounds and faiths came [49:39] around the Jewish community and [49:39] helped including the Muslims. [49:45] And last month our city in our [49:45] city three men were murdered at [49:46] the Islamic Center of San Diego [49:50] in a hate crime just because [49:51] they are of the Muslim [49:51] religion. [49:52] This is so wrong. [49:57] And remember that Judaism is a [49:58] religion not a race. [50:02] All races contain Jewish people [50:03] . [50:03] It is an ancient ancient [50:04] religion and it is religion [50:08] that respects all of our [50:09] brothers and sisters and [50:09] teaches us that everyone is a [50:15] brother and sister. [50:15] The Golden Rule All of these [50:21] things came from Judaism and we [50:22] support our Muslim brothers and [50:27] sisters and I want to say that [50:28] you should not conflate [50:32] the Jewish people of America [50:32] with Israel. [50:33] We have nothing to do with [50:38] the political system or [50:39] the problems in Israel. [50:39] We are Americans and we believe [50:44] in the separation of church and [50:45] state And I believe if they did [50:45] that they'd be better off. [50:51] But that's my opinion because [50:51] I'm an American and that's what [50:52] we practice here. [50:55] I think I'm about six seventh [51:00] generation and we go way [51:01] further back to So let us not [51:07] forget that American Jews are [51:07] American than American Blacks [51:08] are American. [51:13] We are all Americans and we are [51:13] living we are living our [51:14] freedom. [51:15] So thank you so much for all of [51:19] these proclamations. [51:19] Remember that hate prejudice, [51:25] hate speech has no place in [51:25] this city. [51:31] Thank you. [51:31] All right. [51:32] Thank you, council members. [51:33] And we do have a motion by [51:34] Council member Campbell to move [51:37] the proclamation items forward [51:38] And we'll go next to [51:39] Councilmember camp You Thank [51:39] you council PRESIDENT Second [51:40] the motion and thank you [51:43] members of the public for their [51:44] participation today and for [51:44] coming down to City Hall. [51:45] I'm proud to join my colleagues [51:46] in recognizing Jewish American [51:49] heritage Month and celebrating [51:50] the countless contributions of [51:51] Jewish Americans who made our [51:51] city and our country an amazing [51:55] place. [51:56] Council District seven is home [51:56] to vibrant Jewish communities, [51:57] particularly in Del Cerro. [52:01] We have three important [52:02] congregations Temple Emanuel [52:02] out of East County and [52:06] Congregation to Earth Israel [52:07] and soon moving to San Carlos [52:07] is Temple Beth Jacob as well [52:08] And of course these [52:11] institutions help strengthen [52:12] our neighborhoods through [52:13] worship and education, [52:13] community service and cultural [52:14] leadership. [52:18] And I just want just four of [52:18] many, many Jewish institutions [52:19] around our city. [52:20] They're doing amazing work And [52:24] so I'm very proud to bring that [52:25] forward with my colleagues. [52:25] I'm also proud to join [52:26] Councilmember Whitman in [52:30] recognizing San Diego Scottish [52:31] Highland Games. [52:31] They celebrate the many [52:32] individuals and organizations [52:33] who help put that longstanding [52:35] tradition together and make it [52:36] possible here in San Diego and [52:37] members of the public who said [52:41] all of the contributions of [52:42] Scotland and Scottish people to [52:42] the world events like these [52:43] bring people together and [52:43] strengthen community [52:48] connections and highlight [52:48] the rich cultural diversity [52:49] that makes San Diego such a [52:49] special place. [52:50] So I want to thank everyone [52:51] involved for their dedication [52:54] and volunteerism and continued [52:55] contributions to our city. [52:55] And I'd like to finally thank [52:56] my colleagues for bringing [52:57] forward the proclamation for [53:00] Juneteenth as we honor [53:01] the resilience and achievements [53:01] and enduring contributions of [53:02] African Americans while [53:06] reflecting on the significance [53:06] of freedom and the ongoing [53:07] pursuit of equality. [53:08] Even to today, the members of [53:08] the public who are here today [53:12] said it better than I could. [53:13] But I do definitely want to [53:14] thank in particular the Cooper [53:15] family for their longstanding [53:17] recognition of this tradition [53:18] well before governments [53:19] recognized it here in San Diego [53:19] and across our country. [53:20] So I thank them in particular. [53:24] Finally just recognizing this [53:24] day helped ensure the lessons [53:25] of the history continue to [53:26] inform our efforts to build [53:29] the inclusive future that I [53:30] know we all want and are all [53:30] trying to achieve. [53:31] >> So thank you very much [53:32] Council PRESIDENT And I [53:32] conclude my second. [53:36] All right. [53:37] >> Thank you sir. [53:37] So we have a motion by Council [53:38] member Campbell second by [53:42] Council member Carpio to move [53:43] the proclamations and with that [53:43] will go to Council member [53:44] Whipper Thank you Council [53:47] PRESIDENT Thank you to Council [53:48] PRESIDENT PRESIDENT Lee and [53:49] Councilmembers Foster Brito and [53:49] Isla Rivera bringing forward [53:52] the proclamation recognizing [53:53] Juneteenth 2026 day we [53:54] celebrate the resilience [53:54] contributions and enduring [54:00] legacy of black Americans here [54:00] in San Diego across our country [54:01] as we honor this important day [54:05] and reflect on our history, we [54:06] also reaffirm our commitment to [54:07] advancing opportunity, equity [54:12] and justice for all. [54:12] And thank you to council [54:13] members Foster de la Rivera for [54:13] bringing forward [54:14] the proclamation ordering [54:17] Haitian flag Day San Diego's [54:18] Haitian community is a vital [54:19] and vibrant part of the fabric [54:23] of our city today we celebrate [54:24] not only a flag but a legacy of [54:24] resilience and pride and [54:30] incredible contributions to our [54:31] shared hope. [54:31] I'm pleased to join [54:32] Councilmembers Cabo Carpio [54:36] Ariela Rivera recognizing [54:36] Jewish American Heritage Month. [54:37] It's an opportunity not only to [54:38] celebrate the Jewish [54:38] communities contributions to [54:42] the community but also to [54:42] reflect on the importance of [54:43] protecting religious freedom, [54:47] diversity and human dignity At [54:48] a time when anti-Semitism [54:48] continues to rise. [54:49] It is important that we stand [54:50] with our Jewish community that [54:53] against hatred in all of its [54:54] forms. [54:54] And finally happy to join [54:58] Councilmember Carpio and [54:59] Councilmember Campbell in [55:00] bringing forward San Diego [55:04] Scottish Highland Games Day [55:05] recognizes an organization that [55:06] has spent more than five [55:06] decades celebrating Scottish [55:11] culture and traditions and [55:12] heritage in our region. [55:12] Since its a corporation in 1974 [55:17] the San Diego Scottish Highland [55:17] Games has grown into one of [55:18] the region's largest cultural [55:19] festivals bringing together an [55:23] average of 17,000 attendees [55:24] each year. [55:24] As we heard earlier from [55:28] Stephen Laddie, the Chieftain [55:29] of the San Diego Scottish [55:30] Highland Games, the festival [55:30] celebrates many aspects of [55:36] Scottish heritage and [55:36] tradition. [55:37] Here's what ran out before he [55:37] had a chance to finish his [55:38] remarks but he did provide [55:41] the rest of his comments to us [55:42] up here. [55:43] It goes on to say that quote [55:47] For education purposes we have [55:48] whiskey tasting for education [55:48] purposes. [55:53] I'm sure where you will learn [55:54] how the water at the peat [55:54] flavors, the barley and how [55:55] eating a different previously [56:00] used oak barrels changes [56:01] the notes and the aromas of [56:01] the grain. [56:05] So if you're interested in [56:06] attending for educational [56:06] purposes, this year's Highland [56:10] Games will take place on [56:10] Saturday, JUNE 20th and Sunday [56:11] JUNE 21st at Bishop Valley [56:11] River Park. [56:12] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. [56:12] All right. [56:17] Thank you Council member [56:17] Whitburn Not anybody else [56:18] Council member Isla Rivera [56:22] Thank you. [56:23] Council PRESIDENT All right. [56:24] Before I speak to some of [56:28] the specific proclamations I [56:28] want acknowledge why a couple [56:29] of them are here today rather [56:30] than last month. [56:34] Council member Campbell alluded [56:35] to this as well. [56:39] We postpone two of these [56:39] proclamations out of respect to [56:40] make room for the community to [56:45] grieve after the shooting of [56:45] the Islamic center And so to [56:51] our Jewish and Asian [56:51] communities. [56:52] I appreciate your patience, [56:52] grace and understanding your [56:57] willingness to wait so we can [56:58] hold space for another group's [56:58] pain reflects the values that [57:03] we aiming to honor here today. [57:04] And I think that there is a [57:09] thread that I see in in [57:09] the Haitian flag [57:10] the Proclamation Jewish [57:11] American Heritage Month [57:11] Proclamation and Juneteenth [57:15] Proclamation and that's that [57:16] liberation is not given through [57:16] words alone. [57:21] It's one and it takes work. [57:22] Haitian Flag Day marks [57:22] the birth of a flag that was [57:23] stitched together by people who [57:27] refuse to remain in chains [57:28] The people who wage the only [57:28] successful slave revolution to [57:31] founded free nation and built [57:32] the first black republic in [57:32] the world. [57:33] Their freedom was not granted [57:34] to them. [57:38] They took it And that same [57:38] spirit I'm proud to see it [57:44] growing here in San Diego and [57:44] in my district which is home to [57:45] a growing Haitian community [57:46] whose faith, resilience and [57:46] contributions are making our [57:50] city stronger. [57:51] I want to say thank you to [57:52] leaders like Pastor Johnson who [57:56] carry that legacy forward in [57:57] our neighborhoods and show so [57:57] much support for other [57:58] communities as well. [58:02] Jewish American Heritage Month [58:02] honors the people my people [58:03] whose own story begins with [58:08] liberation and who carry an [58:08] enduring commitment to repair [58:09] what's broken in the world. [58:13] That part of that heritage is [58:14] the part that I hold closest [58:15] and takes pride in and has [58:20] demonstrated itself in multiple [58:21] ways throughout the years from [58:25] Ruth Ginsburg and her long [58:26] successful fight to expand [58:26] the promise of equality to [58:32] women to the Freedom Summer in [58:33] 1964 where two young Jewish [58:33] activists Andrew Goodman and [58:37] Michael Schwerner were murdered [58:38] in Mississippi alongside their [58:39] black colleague James Chaney [58:39] for the work of registering [58:43] black Americans to vote. [58:44] They did side by side in [58:45] the same cause fighting for [58:50] liberation and freedom and [58:50] America. [58:55] Well, thank you for your [58:56] comments about making this [58:57] about Jewish American Heritage [58:57] Month. [58:58] That's what this is about. [59:02] But then also the country Jews [59:03] here in America and [59:07] the contributions that are made [59:08] . [59:08] And finally I'll turn to [59:09] Juneteenth which might be [59:10] the most powerful reminder of [59:14] all of that notion that [59:14] liberation is not given through [59:15] words. [59:19] The Emancipation Proclamation [59:20] was historic and necessary, but [59:21] a proclamation is words and [59:25] words on a page in outbreak [59:26] The Chains of For more than [59:26] two years after it was signed, [59:27] people in Texas remained [59:32] enslaved until troops reached [59:33] Galveston and did the work of [59:33] carrying that freedom into into [59:38] the world and enforcing it. [59:38] Freedom declared is not [59:39] the same as freedom delivered. [59:44] This is the tension woven into [59:44] our nation since its founding [59:45] The space between the promises [59:50] that were written on paper and [59:51] the freedom the people are [59:51] actually living. [59:52] We declare that all people are [59:55] created equal while millions [59:56] were held in. [1:00:01] Closing that gap has been an [1:00:02] ongoing effort and it has [1:00:03] required people willing to do [1:00:03] the work. [1:00:07] So with all three of these [1:00:08] proclamations they certainly [1:00:14] are a reason to celebrate but [1:00:14] they're also a reason to [1:00:20] recommit to the work of freedom [1:00:21] . [1:00:21] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT [1:00:22] All right. [1:00:22] Thank you, Council member La [1:00:23] Rivera. [1:00:23] We'll go next to Councilmember [1:00:24] Moreno. [1:00:25] Thank you. [1:00:25] I'd like to take this [1:00:26] opportunity to congratulate all [1:00:27] the recipients of proclamations [1:00:31] today. [1:00:32] I do have comments on item as [1:00:36] 5o3 which is Juneteenth 2020 [1:00:36] sixth day. [1:00:42] It's an honor to join council [1:00:43] member Foster Council member [1:00:47] Ella Rivera and Council member [1:00:48] Lee in recognizing an important [1:00:53] moment in our nation's history [1:00:54] and also to reflect on [1:00:54] the significance of Juneteenth. [1:00:59] Juneteenth reminds us of [1:01:00] the perseverance and resilience [1:01:00] of the black community and also [1:01:01] the long struggle to ensure [1:01:05] that freedom and equal rights [1:01:06] were not only promised but [1:01:06] actually made a reality. [1:01:11] We honor those who continue to [1:01:12] advocate for justice even after [1:01:16] emancipation was declared. [1:01:17] Recognizing that progress often [1:01:22] requires more than the passage [1:01:23] of a law, One of the lessons [1:01:24] Juneteenth teaches us is that [1:01:29] policy is not enough. [1:01:29] Meaningful change requires [1:01:30] implementation, accountability [1:01:34] and enforcement. [1:01:35] And as public servants we have [1:01:36] a responsibility to ensure that [1:01:41] the commitments we make are [1:01:41] carried out in a way that [1:01:42] delivers real results for [1:01:46] the communities that we serve. [1:01:47] I'm proud to recognize [1:01:47] Juneteenth and the ongoing [1:01:53] contributions of the Black [1:01:54] community to our city, to our [1:01:54] state and to our nation. [1:01:59] I did see sd Mellon here Women [1:01:59] of Color Wore and the Cooper [1:02:00] Family Foundation. [1:02:05] I have been a strong supporter [1:02:06] of the Cooper Family Foundation [1:02:11] that will be celebrating its [1:02:11] would you say 50th anniversary [1:02:16] over the 55 year anniversary [1:02:20] JUNE 20th at Memorial Park in [1:02:20] District eight. [1:02:21] I do want to tied in with our [1:02:22] budget that we just passed. [1:02:26] Every single year we allocate [1:02:27] funding to Juneteenth [1:02:32] celebration because I recognize [1:02:33] the importance that that [1:02:33] celebration has not only to [1:02:38] the to the black community but [1:02:39] also to the District eight [1:02:40] community just in general. [1:02:44] I think if MR. Sidney Cooper [1:02:45] were to go out and go out this [1:02:45] Saturday he would just be blown [1:02:49] away by by community coming [1:02:50] together and also by the fact [1:02:55] that you guys still give out [1:02:56] free lunches to kids. [1:02:57] That is powerful and profound [1:03:01] and all the family activities [1:03:02] that are free and are available [1:03:07] to the residents. [1:03:08] So tying it back to the budget [1:03:09] this council did restore hcf [1:03:13] funding So we will be there one [1:03:13] more year. [1:03:14] >> And thank you guys for what [1:03:14] you do. [1:03:19] I know it is a it is a quite [1:03:19] quite a event, right? [1:03:24] It's a lot. [1:03:25] So thank you for what you do [1:03:26] and and for what a lot of folks [1:03:30] in this room do and I'm sorry [1:03:31] if I didn't recognize you but [1:03:32] Cooper families And so I will [1:03:36] always uplift the event. [1:03:37] But with that council PRESIDENT [1:03:42] I am happy to support [1:03:43] the motion before us today. [1:03:43] >> Thank you. [1:03:44] All right. [1:03:44] Thank you. [1:03:45] Council member Randolph will go [1:03:45] to Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem [1:03:47] Lee then Council PRESIDENT And [1:03:52] thank you to my colleagues for [1:03:53] a number of recognitions today. [1:03:54] Starting off with Jewish [1:03:54] American Heritage Month I do [1:03:57] want to thank my colleagues [1:03:58] especially Councilmember Rivera [1:04:03] and Council member Campbell for [1:04:04] taking a moment to move this [1:04:05] recognition Given [1:04:05] the circumstances of the last [1:04:10] month and still taking this [1:04:10] opportunity to recognize our [1:04:11] Jewish American community here [1:04:15] in San Diego. [1:04:15] Thank you for the recognition [1:04:20] of the Haitian Flag Day as well [1:04:20] . [1:04:21] And Council member Whitburn, [1:04:26] you had me at Educational. [1:04:27] Thank you for that and best [1:04:27] wishes as you put on [1:04:31] the Scottish Highland Games. [1:04:33] I'll speak to items 5 or 3 and [1:04:33] I'm honored to join [1:04:34] Councilmembers Foster Moreno [1:04:37] and Rivera to proclaim [1:04:38] Juneteenth in the city of San [1:04:38] Diego and recognize this [1:04:42] important moment in our [1:04:43] nation's history. [1:04:43] We all know the history of why [1:04:47] Juneteenth has come to be and I [1:04:48] think what it serves to this [1:04:52] day is a reminder of the path [1:04:53] to liberation even when delayed [1:04:54] can be achieved through [1:04:54] the enduring power of [1:04:58] resistance and resilience and [1:04:59] the recognition of Juneteenth [1:05:03] as a federal holiday in 2021 [1:05:04] certainly represented an [1:05:05] important acknowledgment of a [1:05:05] chapter of American history [1:05:09] that has too often been [1:05:09] forgotten not forgotten but [1:05:10] perhaps overlooked. [1:05:15] And I think we especially need [1:05:16] to think now. [1:05:16] County Supervisor Monica [1:05:20] Montgomery for helping to bring [1:05:21] this forward at that time to [1:05:22] ensure that the city of San [1:05:22] Diego also recognized [1:05:25] Juneteenth as an official [1:05:25] holiday to the stage and [1:05:26] invites us to celebrate [1:05:30] the strength, leadership and [1:05:30] countless contributions of [1:05:31] black Americans reminds us that [1:05:32] history has to be recognized [1:05:35] and learn from And it's a [1:05:36] challenge I think to this day [1:05:40] for us to grapple with [1:05:41] the pains of that history and [1:05:46] to also make amends not just as [1:05:46] a society, as a country but [1:05:47] also in the ways that we can [1:05:51] here at the city of San Diego. [1:05:52] So certainly I look forward not [1:05:55] only to celebrating Juneteenth [1:05:56] with many of you but to [1:05:57] continue using that as an [1:06:01] opportunity to remind of [1:06:02] the continual work when it [1:06:02] comes to delivering justice [1:06:07] within our communities. [1:06:08] Thank you Council for All [1:06:08] right. [1:06:08] Thank you. [1:06:09] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee [1:06:11] We'll go next to Council member [1:06:12] Foster Yes thank you. [1:06:16] >> Council PRESIDENT And just [1:06:17] thank you to my colleagues for [1:06:22] all of the proclamations and [1:06:26] the recognition you know, [1:06:27] Jewish American Heritage Month. [1:06:28] Just thank you for being in [1:06:32] this forward Again, as you have [1:06:33] heard from my colleagues, you [1:06:37] know, with the time that we are [1:06:38] in, I think we need to do [1:06:41] everything we can to uplift and [1:06:46] to celebrate once the heritage [1:06:51] culture and things of the sort [1:06:52] And thank you to the Jewish [1:06:56] American community for all [1:06:57] their contributions to this [1:06:57] city of San Diego. [1:07:02] Asian flag Day. [1:07:02] I'm proud to bring this [1:07:03] proclamation forward along with [1:07:04] my colleague council member [1:07:09] Sean Isla Rivera. [1:07:10] But I just want everyone to [1:07:12] understand this is about [1:07:13] recognizing a day rooted in [1:07:18] freedom, rooted in unity, in [1:07:19] the belief that dignity belongs [1:07:22] to everyone. [1:07:27] And I must say I'm a little [1:07:28] appalled that we have to hear [1:07:32] comments about bringing an item [1:07:36] such as Haitian flag Day to be [1:07:37] recognized. [1:07:41] And so I just want to make sure [1:07:42] that with the Haitian community [1:07:43] just thank you for everything [1:07:47] that you do your contribution [1:07:47] to the city of San Diego and [1:07:51] thank you for continuing to [1:07:52] share your culture to to share [1:07:56] what unity is, how important it [1:08:00] is to unify as a people and to [1:08:01] make sure our future [1:08:05] generations understand [1:08:06] the significance and understand [1:08:10] the traditions, the practices [1:08:10] of one's culture. [1:08:11] So thank you for that [1:08:15] Juneteenth 2026 Day Thank you [1:08:20] to the Cooper family for [1:08:21] everything that you do And I'll [1:08:24] say this there in District [1:08:25] eight there's a reason they're [1:08:25] in District eight. [1:08:27] That's where we were allowed to [1:08:32] live. [1:08:33] So I want to make sure everyone [1:08:34] understands that as we talk [1:08:37] about these significance of [1:08:38] Juneteenth And I'm a young man [1:08:42] then I've said this before on [1:08:43] this dais that attended Hampton [1:08:46] University for five years every [1:08:51] day every day I saw [1:08:56] the Emancipation Oak. [1:08:57] Every time I go back to this [1:09:05] day I go to that location and I [1:09:06] remember my time at Hampton. [1:09:10] >> I remember what I learned [1:09:11] about the importance and [1:09:14] the significance of that Oak [1:09:15] tree And here we are today to [1:09:20] continue to celebrate. [1:09:21] And for me this is about [1:09:24] resolve. [1:09:25] This is about taking a moment [1:09:29] to celebrate black greatness, [1:09:30] to celebrate that no matter [1:09:35] what has happened to us, no [1:09:35] matter what we continue to go [1:09:39] through, we can take time out [1:09:40] to celebrate us, to look at [1:09:44] each other and say I love you. [1:09:44] Things will get better. [1:09:49] We will make sure things get [1:09:50] better because no one's going [1:09:54] to take better care of us than [1:09:54] us. [1:09:55] So thank you for those [1:09:58] continued efforts. [1:09:59] Thank you for continuing to [1:10:03] reflect on the significance of [1:10:04] the black community to [1:10:08] the success of the city of San [1:10:09] Diego. [1:10:09] It's one of the reasons we [1:10:10] established the San Diego Black [1:10:13] Arts and Culture District. [1:10:14] I truly believe there would be [1:10:18] no San Diego if it were not for [1:10:18] the contributions of black [1:10:22] Americans to the City of San [1:10:22] Diego. [1:10:23] So thank you so much. [1:10:23] Let's continue to celebrate. [1:10:27] But let's also make sure we [1:10:32] have a lot of work to do Also I [1:10:37] just have to to close with [1:10:37] this. [1:10:38] And I would need just a little [1:10:39] more time when that alarm goes [1:10:44] off. [1:10:45] The past few months have been [1:10:49] very, very difficult. [1:10:53] We have seen hate and we have [1:10:58] seen it consistently. [1:10:59] And one thing that we cannot do [1:11:02] and one thing that we must not [1:11:07] do is fall subject to [1:11:08] the divisiveness and the hate [1:11:12] that is coming from [1:11:13] the PRESIDENT Of the United [1:11:17] States and the White House. [1:11:18] We cannot allow that to happen. [1:11:21] That is not San Diego. [1:11:22] When we talk about progress, [1:11:26] the civil right the Civil [1:11:27] Rights Act of 1964 is under [1:11:31] attack. [1:11:32] It is under continued attack. [1:11:39] The Voting Rights Act of 1965. [1:11:40] If you hear what is being said, [1:11:44] it is being said people of [1:11:44] color. [1:11:48] They do not want us to vote. [1:11:53] We cannot force subject to this [1:11:54] rhetoric and this hate coming [1:11:58] to this Dyess or coming to give [1:11:58] comment and to have [1:12:03] the audacity to tell a culture [1:12:03] that they should not celebrate [1:12:07] their flag. [1:12:07] That is wrong. [1:12:12] We start every meeting in this [1:12:13] chambers during the Pledge of [1:12:17] Allegiance with all of its [1:12:18] flaws that the United States of [1:12:24] America has. [1:12:28] >> We were founded on what I [1:12:29] feel is one of the most [1:12:30] probably the most egregious [1:12:38] acts in this world. [1:12:39] We are still feeling [1:12:45] the impacts today. [1:12:46] >> We are 5% of the population [1:12:49] in the city of San Diego but we [1:12:50] make up 30% of the homeless [1:12:51] population. [1:12:55] I have our board of trustees [1:12:55] here today. [1:12:56] Sharon Whitehurst Payne with [1:12:57] San Diego Unified School [1:13:02] District. [1:13:03] She has to fight every day to [1:13:07] get the resources to get [1:13:08] the attention that our young [1:13:11] students need to learn how to [1:13:16] read and write. [1:13:17] We were told we had no business [1:13:19] understanding how to read and [1:13:24] write. [1:13:25] >> To this day we just went [1:13:28] through a $6 billion budget and [1:13:28] we have to fight to keep [1:13:29] libraries open. [1:13:33] Why are we fighting to keep an [1:13:37] institution where we learn, [1:13:37] learn how to read, learn how to [1:13:41] write, learn how to prepare our [1:13:42] young folks to be successful in [1:13:45] this very, very challenging [1:13:46] world that we call the United [1:13:47] States of America. [1:13:51] And I know we are here to [1:13:52] celebrate. [1:13:53] We're going to do a flag [1:13:56] raising for Juneteenth. [1:13:56] I'm going to be out at [1:13:57] the Cooper Family Foundation. [1:14:01] I invite everyone to the city [1:14:01] of San Diego, the county of San [1:14:02] Diego Come and celebrate [1:14:08] Juneteenth. [1:14:08] Come and celebrate Black [1:14:10] Independence Day and come and [1:14:16] understand what it looks like [1:14:16] when we love on one another [1:14:21] when we celebrate family, when [1:14:22] we can take all that bad and [1:14:26] set it to the side for the day [1:14:26] and say we are good people. [1:14:31] We are a value we have [1:14:31] contributed to this United [1:14:35] States of America. [1:14:36] And I think it's something that [1:14:40] we all need to continue to [1:14:40] strive. [1:14:41] And I will say this and I [1:14:45] appreciate the proclamation but [1:14:46] some time has passed where [1:14:50] the state of California took [1:14:51] some time out to put together [1:14:54] the reparations task force. [1:14:55] It was groundbreaking work. [1:14:59] It set the path forward. [1:15:03] But we need to make sure that [1:15:04] we not only look at that [1:15:05] document that we don't only sit [1:15:09] here and acknowledge days such [1:15:13] as Juneteenth or the Haitian [1:15:13] Flag Day. [1:15:17] We need to do more. [1:15:18] We need to take action. [1:15:20] And we need to actually correct [1:15:25] the harm. [1:15:26] And everyone needs to [1:15:30] understand that and hear that. [1:15:34] And again, we need to fight [1:15:35] hate. [1:15:39] Hate has no place No place in [1:15:40] this city of San Diego. [1:15:44] And no one should feel that [1:15:45] they are unsafe based on [1:15:49] the color of their skin or [1:15:50] their religious beliefs and who [1:15:50] they are. [1:15:54] But we must be respectful so we [1:15:54] can agree to disagree. [1:15:58] But we must be respectful. [1:15:59] And so with that council [1:16:03] PRESIDENT That will conclude my [1:16:04] comments. [1:16:04] Again, thank you for everyone [1:16:05] to the public for coming out. [1:16:08] Let's make sure we take some [1:16:09] time out to celebrate all these [1:16:13] significant proclamations and [1:16:14] let's be the best San Diego [1:16:14] that we can be. [1:16:18] Let's not fight each other. [1:16:18] Let's embrace our diversity. [1:16:23] Let's embrace our culture. [1:16:27] Be truly want this to be [1:16:31] the greatest city. [1:16:32] We must do better. [1:16:37] We must must do better. [1:16:37] And we must open our arms and [1:16:41] we must receive our brothers [1:16:41] and sisters. [1:16:42] And we must celebrate each [1:16:46] other. [1:16:46] And we must uplift and support [1:16:47] each other. [1:16:50] So thank you, Council PRESIDENT [1:16:51] . [1:16:51] >> I will conclude there. [1:16:52] All right. [1:16:52] Thank you, sir. [1:17:01] You asked for more time. [1:17:04] >> I give you three minutes [1:17:05] Used used up very, very well. [1:17:09] >> All wrap things up. [1:17:10] Thank you to my colleagues for [1:17:10] bringing forth these [1:17:13] proclamations that celebrate [1:17:14] who we are as San Diego and [1:17:15] the diversity that makes our [1:17:18] city special. [1:17:19] And to those of you who showed [1:17:20] up for the first time perhaps [1:17:23] the only time and spoke from [1:17:24] the heart about a proclamation [1:17:28] that meant something to you [1:17:29] whether it's your nationality, [1:17:30] your belief, your cultural [1:17:30] heritage. [1:17:32] Thank you for taking the time [1:17:33] to come out and share your [1:17:34] thoughts or feelings with us [1:17:37] this morning. [1:17:38] So with that we have a motion [1:17:39] by Councilmember Campbell and a [1:17:42] second by council member come [1:17:42] here to move the proclamations. [1:17:43] Clerk Please call the roll. [1:17:43] Thank you. [1:17:44] Council PRESIDENT I'm sorry [1:17:45] The voting system Please cast [1:17:56] your vote and that passes [1:17:57] unanimously 7 to 0 with council [1:17:59] member Marnie, one of Oprah and [1:17:59] Councilmember Campbell absent. [1:18:00] >> Thank you, Council [1:18:00] PRESIDENT. [1:18:01] All right. [1:18:01] Thank you. [1:18:03] With that we will now pause for [1:18:04] photos and we will start with [1:20:05] sw 503 Juneteenth 2026 Day [1:24:12] and then [1:27:15] All right as a friendly rule [1:27:15] reminder to our colleagues [1:27:16] we're going to go to do [1:27:16] the consent item. [1:27:20] Some of the items require six [1:27:20] votes. [1:27:21] I'm not telling you how to vote [1:27:23] but we need to hold There's [1:27:24] only six of us left. [1:27:28] So if there's any no pressure [1:27:32] But we do We need to have at [1:27:33] least six votes six individuals [1:27:37] here with the possibility of [1:27:37] the votes not telling you how [1:27:38] to vote. [1:27:39] So we will now proceed with [1:27:42] the approval of the consent [1:27:42] items. [1:27:43] Are there any requests to pull [1:27:43] an item? [1:27:47] Yes, there are. [1:27:48] >> There is item If we could [1:27:51] get a presentation on item as [1:27:52] 5a1 the proposed fiscal year 27 [1:27:53] rec center fund Budget [1:27:57] opportunity Fund budget and [1:27:57] 2025 complete outside report [1:27:58] please. [1:28:02] Okay So we'll do the consent [1:28:02] items and then we'll hear here [1:28:06] that item next not see any [1:28:07] other requests. [1:28:07] Clerk Please proceed with [1:28:12] public comment on the consent [1:28:12] item. [1:28:13] Think on the remainder of [1:28:13] the consent item. [1:28:14] Thank you. [1:28:17] Council PRESIDENT If I can have [1:28:18] Jacob Lewis Edwards please come [1:28:18] up to the front. [1:28:21] After that we have Maximillian [1:28:22] Schmidt allegedly Audra and [1:28:26] then Anthony Dang Joyce [1:28:27] Kenyatta. [1:28:27] Claudia Rodriguez. [1:28:31] Jocelyn Estrada and Sherry [1:28:31] Jones. [1:28:32] If you can all please come [1:28:35] forward to the front row that [1:28:36] would really facilitate meeting [1:28:36] management. [1:28:39] Now you're speaking on three [1:28:40] items Jacob so you'll have [1:28:44] three minutes 5121 Please [1:28:44] proceed. [1:28:44] Thank you very much. [1:28:45] I'd like to start by thanking [1:28:49] our council one again Campbell [1:28:50] for comments about the anti [1:28:53] Semitic rhetoric in chambers [1:28:54] that are free speech is [1:28:58] important and we have the right [1:28:59] to speak out against such [1:28:59] rhetoric. [1:29:03] Thank you to her for that and [1:29:04] thank you for Council Foster's [1:29:08] comments. [1:29:09] He couldn't have said it any [1:29:09] better. [1:29:12] I was that was amazing how he [1:29:17] put that. [1:29:18] No I'm going to speak up on [1:29:22] the consent agenda items. [1:29:22] All these agenda items we go [1:29:23] over are very important. [1:29:27] However I think that we could [1:29:28] put agenda items forth to [1:29:31] confront some serious stuff. [1:29:32] It was years ago my mom's [1:29:37] brother Danny Tyler's position [1:29:38] at the Department of Homeland [1:29:38] Security was hijacked by [1:29:42] the Italian mafia that led to [1:29:42] them hijacking our federal [1:29:47] government and the agencies. [1:29:48] I was encouraging the Costa [1:29:48] Nostra over a year ago. [1:29:51] Please hand the keys back. [1:29:52] This could be your demise as [1:29:56] well that a foreign country or [1:30:00] adversary could capitalize on [1:30:01] this And that was what was [1:30:01] transpiring the entire time. [1:30:03] Chinese espionage was on it [1:30:08] from the jump for what's going [1:30:13] on now, what it's led to is [1:30:13] genocide. [1:30:17] The Federal Reserve families of [1:30:18] China a lot of money to settle [1:30:22] their debt. [1:30:23] They cut a deal with China that [1:30:26] they can't take our government [1:30:27] and our country over And upon [1:30:32] that agreement to eliminate [1:30:36] profiles of folks the Chinese [1:30:37] do not want the best to [1:30:37] the best of our country So [1:30:41] their best of the best can [1:30:42] swoop in. [1:30:45] It's completely unacceptable. [1:30:46] We stand up for ourselves. [1:30:50] We stand up for each other and [1:30:51] we stand up for our country. [1:30:52] I want you to check out [1:30:56] the YouTube clip this posted [1:30:57] under Jacob Edwards speaks for [1:30:58] I spoke right here at this [1:31:03] microphone. [1:31:04] What has transpired since [1:31:05] the deal that the Federal [1:31:08] Reserve families cut with [1:31:08] the Chinese? [1:31:09] It's completely unacceptable in [1:31:13] this country I take the coast [1:31:14] to coast for would even agree [1:31:15] and I, I think I still [1:31:18] encourage them to step back, [1:31:19] fight with us and let's all [1:31:23] work together was work together [1:31:24] that the Chinese should not [1:31:24] overthrow our government, take [1:31:27] our country over Genocide is [1:31:28] completely unacceptable in this [1:31:28] country. [1:31:34] We stand against it that [1:31:35] everybody needs to work [1:31:39] together, fight for ourselves, [1:31:40] fight for each other and fight [1:31:40] for our country. [1:31:45] I say GOD bless San Diego and [1:31:46] GOD bless the United States of [1:31:46] America. [1:31:49] >> Think I'm supposed to speak [1:31:50] in public comment but I'm going [1:31:51] to refrain And you all have [1:31:54] Maximilian Schmidt You're [1:31:59] speaking on items 100 106 and [1:32:04] 107 Hi. [1:32:04] >> I researched approval of [1:32:08] the fiscal year 27 San Diego [1:32:09] Tourism Marketing District [1:32:16] Report of Activities and $5,656 [1:32:17] million of our tax dollars are [1:32:21] being used to try to encourage [1:32:22] support develop tourism in San [1:32:27] Diego And I just wanted to say [1:32:27] that nowhere do they support [1:32:32] maybe Christian tourism because [1:32:32] i know San Diego has a long [1:32:37] history of Catholic missions [1:32:37] and beautiful Christian [1:32:42] churches all across San Diego [1:32:43] and I thought maybe we're going [1:32:47] to have a Jewish Heritage Month [1:32:48] and a Haitian Flag Day and [1:32:52] Juneteenth. [1:32:53] Maybe we could do something for [1:32:57] Christianity instead Everyone [1:32:58] talks about hate speech and [1:32:58] the and the truth is they're [1:33:02] trying to tie the word [1:33:03] Christian into the word hate [1:33:04] speech by calling us white [1:33:08] Christian nationalists And I'm [1:33:08] supposed to be and they're [1:33:09] going to probably call me [1:33:10] nationalist just because I said [1:33:12] I don't support Haitian Flag [1:33:13] Day because it's the most [1:33:18] corrupt country on in [1:33:18] the entire Western Hemisphere [1:33:22] thus has the poorest people's [1:33:23] population in the Western [1:33:24] Hemisphere And then we have a [1:33:28] whole day commemorated they [1:33:29] said for thousands and [1:33:29] thousands of years. [1:33:30] Let us commemorate the Haitian [1:33:33] flag on this special day. [1:33:34] And it's also I'm sorry it's [1:33:37] the communist government too [1:33:38] And I feel like there's [1:33:38] communist elements to San [1:33:44] Diego's on to San Diego to for [1:33:44] example a neural linguistic [1:33:48] programing has become a problem [1:33:49] And I hate to say that but it's [1:33:53] true On the San Diego trolley [1:33:54] every time the trolley makes an [1:33:55] announcement it uses neuro [1:33:58] linguistic programing to try to [1:33:59] read my mind and make me [1:33:59] nervous. [1:34:03] It does that because someone [1:34:04] who did pagan rituals and [1:34:04] became telepathic is actually [1:34:09] controlling the trolley. [1:34:10] They'll even slam on the brakes [1:34:10] or accelerate in conjunction [1:34:15] with my movements and they can [1:34:16] do that because the third eye [1:34:16] is real and it's called camping [1:34:20] out in someone's consciousness [1:34:20] so they can literally access [1:34:21] your consciousness and [1:34:26] the trolley driver can drive [1:34:27] the car and it's called [1:34:27] standardization. [1:34:28] He can slow it down and speed [1:34:29] up my movements and in [1:34:31] the trolley intercom So I'm [1:34:32] just saying $56 million that [1:34:37] we're spending on tourism. [1:34:37] Meanwhile we've got the roots [1:34:38] of communism are starting to [1:34:41] grow out of San Diego from [1:34:42] everything from public transit [1:34:42] to walking down the street and [1:34:46] buildings making bizarre high [1:34:47] pitch noises thanks to your [1:34:47] actions. [1:34:52] So $56 million is hard earned [1:34:53] money from that you're taking [1:34:53] from property tax and cannabis [1:34:57] tax from the people of San [1:34:58] Diego You're taking out $56 [1:34:58] million and you're trying to [1:35:02] say we want to increase tourism [1:35:03] almost no transparency. [1:35:03] >> The report Meanwhile there's [1:35:08] communism going on in San Diego [1:35:08] Next is allegedly order You're [1:35:12] speaking on several items 5101 [1:35:13] or 2 One of I want to wait 191 [1:35:14] ten and it's 501 You'll have [1:35:14] three minutes. [1:35:19] >> Please proceed. [1:35:20] Yeah. [1:35:20] I find it interesting that [1:35:24] talking about pedophilia is [1:35:30] considered anti-Semitic and [1:35:31] hate speech and being a victim [1:35:35] of a pedophile for nine years [1:35:40] That's like me talking about It [1:35:41] is hate speech against Bert [1:35:45] Dickerson who did that to me [1:35:46] And it's like not a problem [1:35:51] that those things happen [1:35:51] because those are very true [1:35:56] What I spoke about They do oral [1:35:57] suction on babies who have been [1:36:03] circumcised and how to have sex [1:36:04] with a child a little girl who [1:36:07] is three years old And one day [1:36:12] if they can give consent And so [1:36:13] it's like hateful for me to say [1:36:13] those things. [1:36:18] Yes, I hate pedophilia. [1:36:19] I do as a victim because it [1:36:20] continues and there is no [1:36:24] justice because of things like [1:36:25] this being buried and it being [1:36:26] considered hate speech that I [1:36:29] talk about it And [1:36:36] Jewish-Americans go to Israel [1:36:36] because of the sanctuary for [1:36:41] pedophilia And there's so much [1:36:42] pedophilia that has been [1:36:42] exposed But it's like [1:36:48] acceptable. [1:36:49] Everybody accepts it And it's [1:36:49] like for people who have [1:36:50] children. [1:36:53] But it's so concerning to me [1:36:54] that you would say it's hateful [1:37:00] for me to talk about that when [1:37:00] I think we should to protect [1:37:01] your children from things like [1:37:05] that happening. [1:37:06] It happened to me in a daycare. [1:37:07] I was taken to this house every [1:37:12] day where this man would abuse [1:37:18] me and I called him on [1:37:18] the phone at the police station [1:37:23] when I was 12 years old and got [1:37:23] him to admit it and nothing [1:37:24] happened because the judge said [1:37:30] that if when I said he said [1:37:31] what do you think should [1:37:31] happen? [1:37:31] >> I said you know what? [1:37:32] I think he should go to jail [1:37:33] for a year. [1:37:35] That sounded like a really long [1:37:36] time as a 12 year old And he [1:37:41] said that he would be worse off [1:37:42] if he went to jail. [1:37:43] Yeah, he probably did Good Then [1:37:47] he won't abuse any more [1:37:47] children like he continues to [1:37:48] do for the last 30 something [1:37:53] years because of like this. [1:37:54] >> And for those of you have [1:37:59] children shame on you for [1:38:00] calling that hate speech [1:38:05] because I feel like that is [1:38:06] hate speech to victims for [1:38:11] going Why is this acceptable? [1:38:12] >> Why can people stand in a [1:38:13] crowd of people and watch a man [1:38:17] a little boy's spit it a clap [1:38:23] and celebrate it all that comes [1:38:24] off of this kind of evil and [1:38:29] that is why we are supposed to [1:38:30] repent but not go into it and [1:38:31] accept it and like brush it [1:38:35] under the rug when we have [1:38:36] children and we just basically [1:38:40] play Russian roulette with them [1:38:46] and these people run rampant [1:38:47] because of this our time is [1:38:48] supported. [1:38:53] >> Anthony Doing your speaking [1:38:54] on item 100 you have a minute? [1:38:55] >> Please proceed. [1:38:55] Thank you. [1:38:55] Good morning. [1:38:59] My name is Anthony Dana. [1:39:00] >> I'm the Climate Action [1:39:00] Campaign. [1:39:01] We're building an affordable [1:39:02] 100% clean and reliable energy [1:39:05] future so you can already pay [1:39:06] the highest electricity rates [1:39:10] in the nation of $0.45 per [1:39:10] kilowatt hour which is more [1:39:11] than two times the national [1:39:12] average with a typical monthly [1:39:16] bill of over $300 for a single [1:39:17] family home heating squeezed by [1:39:22] the affordability crisis at [1:39:23] every corner as you need to [1:39:24] support a general rate case [1:39:28] request yesterday afternoon [1:39:28] requesting 3.8 billion starting [1:39:29] in 2028. [1:39:30] If approved this would add an [1:39:34] extra $22.48 per month on [1:39:34] the average family's gas and [1:39:40] electric bill. [1:39:41] That is almost an additional [1:39:41] $270 a year Every single family [1:39:46] would be handing over to [1:39:47] Jeannie. [1:39:48] That's exactly excuse me that's [1:39:48] exactly why today's energy [1:39:52] affordability and [1:39:53] accountability resolution [1:39:53] matters And we hope that [1:39:54] the full council can pass this [1:40:00] resolution. [1:40:00] >> Thank you, Joyce. [1:40:01] Other please come forward. [1:40:02] You'll have three minutes to [1:40:02] speak on 101, two, four. [1:40:05] One, two, 31251502. [1:40:06] Please proceed. [1:40:06] Thank you. [1:40:09] Just quickly thank you for [1:40:10] the dignity of listening. [1:40:16] It was very beautiful. [1:40:16] Very beautiful. [1:40:17] Okay, I have a bunch of them [1:40:22] and they're not going to be in [1:40:22] order. [1:40:22] Sorry about that. [1:40:23] Most of them are so on 100. [1:40:28] Well this is exciting. [1:40:29] Ten bills addressing utility [1:40:29] affordability. [1:40:34] I mean this is a happy moment [1:40:34] or what And for DR. Campbell [1:40:40] because she spoke of the cpu [1:40:41] you see an affordability on [1:40:41] the rates It's changing folks [1:40:46] There's an article in the u-t [1:40:47] on that I forgot to bring it [1:40:48] and read it but there's changes [1:40:52] happening in the cpu, see which [1:40:53] is going to really help [1:40:58] affordability on rates for [1:40:59] the labor agreement with meaa [1:41:00] and the union the good faith [1:41:04] negotiate ation process. [1:41:05] I love those words So a big [1:41:06] thank you for the excellent [1:41:11] leadership of Michael Jacquet [1:41:11] and the rest of his team. [1:41:17] They're absolute really [1:41:17] important and what they do is [1:41:23] so it just helps all of us. [1:41:23] So along with that labor item [1:41:24] there's one, two, three and as [1:41:27] five of five which is deputy [1:41:33] city attorneys and the afscme, [1:41:33] it's a long wording there. [1:41:34] I want to say to everybody [1:41:40] the unions I love you, we need [1:41:40] you. [1:41:41] You're just a part of our [1:41:45] the fabric of our city. [1:41:46] You're a powerful force. [1:41:46] So now that your process is [1:41:51] coming to a close, we need you [1:41:52] to jump on board in another [1:41:52] way. [1:41:53] You need to help us with our [1:41:58] budget and all other areas. [1:41:59] We really need your help to [1:41:59] help us figure out with our [1:42:04] priorities and where we're [1:42:04] heading with that. [1:42:05] Okay. [1:42:05] Thank you. [1:42:06] Thank you and love you for that [1:42:09] extra help on one of those [1:42:09] seven the tmd the last time [1:42:10] they presented to us and they [1:42:15] talked about storytelling I [1:42:15] just loved it. [1:42:16] I couldn't believe that tmb [1:42:20] uses storyteller for their [1:42:21] marketing tool so I really like [1:42:21] the tmd. [1:42:27] We're a tourist community and [1:42:28] we really rely on them so I [1:42:28] thank them very much. [1:42:31] And then on 5502a big yes to [1:42:31] the c p p. [1:42:37] S funding for cd4 That's an [1:42:37] underserved community. [1:42:43] We are doing better. [1:42:44] Hey folks, this is life right [1:42:49] here And isn't it beautiful And [1:42:50] we're doing it together And I [1:42:51] am so honored to be here with [1:42:56] you celebrating the miracle [1:42:57] that life itself is Love you [1:43:04] all Claudia Rodriguez This [1:43:04] can't be the last. [1:43:07] >> You'll have one minute. [1:43:08] >> Please proceed. [1:43:08] Thank you. [1:43:09] Good morning. [1:43:09] Honorable council members. [1:43:14] My name's Claudia Rodriguez [1:43:15] Blonsky and I'm a resident and [1:43:15] small business owner in Barrio [1:43:19] Logan in District eight Oh. [1:43:19] I runs a local sustainable [1:43:20] fashion studio on Logan Avenue [1:43:24] where we teach sewing, [1:43:24] celebrate local culture and [1:43:25] create handmade garments that [1:43:30] tell stories of our community [1:43:30] Visitors to center You will [1:43:31] find our way to our businesses [1:43:32] like ours and when they do it [1:43:32] matters. [1:43:36] Currently I'm currently part of [1:43:37] a 2026 cohort for the San Diego [1:43:42] Tourism accelerated Program [1:43:42] which gives us real tools to [1:43:43] grow and connect with our wider [1:43:43] audience. [1:43:48] This program exists because of [1:43:49] tmd funding allocated to [1:43:49] the tourism authority. [1:43:55] I urge the city to approve [1:43:55] the Team Dee's proposed budget [1:43:56] It supports not just the big [1:44:00] hotels but small business [1:44:01] communities rooted businesses [1:44:01] That makes you worth visiting. [1:44:03] Thank you. [1:44:03] >> Thank you. [1:44:09] Jocelyn Estrada Hello. [1:44:16] Good morning Honorable [1:44:16] COUNCILMAN. [1:44:17] My name is Joseph Estrada in a [1:44:18] resident and business owner in [1:44:23] District four I only cut some [1:44:24] cake and dessert This is called [1:44:24] We've cut out microns in water [1:44:28] and investments in attracting [1:44:29] visitors to San Diego directly [1:44:29] benefit local businesses like [1:44:30] me. [1:44:34] Not only do we benefit from [1:44:34] the visitors who come and spend [1:44:35] money, we also feel supported [1:44:39] by the tourism industry itself [1:44:40] . [1:44:40] We're currently a part of [1:44:41] the County Tourism Authority [1:44:42] accelerator program and that [1:44:45] program among other efforts is [1:44:46] made possible because of [1:44:47] the tourism marketing district [1:44:52] funds that are allotted to San [1:44:53] Diego Tourism Authority. [1:44:53] So I hope that the city [1:44:54] approves of this proposed [1:44:57] budget to keep bringing [1:44:58] the tourists and Diego and [1:44:58] supporting our local small [1:44:59] businesses like myself. [1:44:59] Thank you. [1:45:03] Thank you. [1:45:04] And Sherry Jones also one of [1:45:09] the other good morning council [1:45:10] members How many mystery Jones [1:45:14] and I'm a resident and business [1:45:15] owner in District four and [1:45:15] the co-founder co-founder of [1:45:16] Black Eagle, a nonprofit [1:45:20] dedicated to connecting [1:45:21] residents and visitors with [1:45:21] the black with black owned [1:45:22] businesses, cultural events and [1:45:23] community experiences [1:45:26] throughout any accounting over [1:45:27] the past decade Black Bendigo [1:45:31] has grown into a platform that [1:45:31] reaches nearly 50,000 community [1:45:32] members and visitors while [1:45:35] helping to spotlight more than [1:45:36] 600 black owned businesses to [1:45:36] our region. [1:45:37] We are currently participating [1:45:40] in the annual tourism Authority [1:45:41] Accelerator program which is [1:45:42] helping us better understand [1:45:42] how to connect visitors with [1:45:48] rich culture experiences, small [1:45:48] businesses and communities and [1:45:49] makes indigo such a special [1:45:54] destination Investment into [1:45:54] attracting visitors will [1:45:55] benefit local businesses and [1:45:56] organizations like the ones we [1:45:59] support when visitors come to [1:46:00] our city they spend money at [1:46:01] local restaurants, shops, [1:46:02] hotels, attractions and events. [1:46:07] We appreciate the city and [1:46:07] continue a partnership within [1:46:08] tourism and help you. [1:46:12] >> Thank you. [1:46:13] >> Thank you. [1:46:13] That does include public [1:46:14] comment here in council [1:46:15] chambers Are the five minute [1:46:15] timer going to those [1:46:16] participating remotely starting [1:46:16] with Slurpee? [1:46:17] >> Come in if you can please [1:46:23] let me know. [1:46:23] >> All right. [1:46:24] But clarification please let me [1:46:28] know which item or items you [1:46:28] wish to speak to. [1:46:37] >> Yeah I have several 5101 or [1:46:38] 2 123124125107I think And then [1:46:43] ask 500 thinking I have three [1:46:43] minutes Please proceed. [1:46:44] >> Yeah Thank you. [1:46:49] I'm going to the first item [1:46:54] item 100 Senate bills according [1:46:55] Addressing Utility [1:46:55] Affordability Accountability [1:47:01] I'm hopeful this item you know [1:47:01] it's good that it's doing well [1:47:02] Address the future of community [1:47:06] energy and that even though [1:47:07] we've had recent conversations [1:47:08] community energy is still about [1:47:08] ten years away really [1:47:13] functioning well in San Diego. [1:47:14] Can we start making the steps [1:47:14] now and just make that a [1:47:18] regular conversation in our [1:47:19] energy dialog? [1:47:19] >> I hope we can do that. [1:47:24] You will all feel better I [1:47:25] think by doing that and to go [1:47:29] on to item 1 or 2 Council San [1:47:30] Diego County detention [1:47:30] facilities this was an item [1:47:35] brought to committee a few [1:47:35] weeks ago. [1:47:36] Councilperson Whitburn actually [1:47:36] asked to be nice questions [1:47:40] about that item. [1:47:41] I hope that's being better [1:47:42] addressed as there is a [1:47:46] significant number of deaths [1:47:47] happening in our county [1:47:47] detention facilities each year. [1:47:48] What are we doing to address [1:47:52] that? [1:47:53] It has to be worked on. [1:47:53] Santa Clara has been having [1:47:58] similar problems. [1:47:59] Can we put our two minds [1:48:00] together to work on these [1:48:00] things? [1:48:01] We should be able to come up [1:48:04] with solutions and good luck [1:48:09] how we can Going on two items [1:48:09] 1033104 These are tentative [1:48:10] agreements with employee [1:48:14] associations I've said [1:48:15] previously it MAY be too late [1:48:15] now I hope you can still [1:48:16] consider the idea that you can [1:48:21] actually take some very small [1:48:21] pay cut whatever small pay cut [1:48:27] you take as employees of [1:48:27] the city and city council. [1:48:28] Perkins It just is that concept [1:48:32] of building trust with [1:48:33] the community and good faith [1:48:34] efforts And I hope you guys [1:48:38] want to consider life in those [1:48:39] terms And I think it would open [1:48:40] up a better way to look at [1:48:44] the budget issues So I hope I [1:48:44] hope that's a consideration And [1:48:45] believe it or not Oakland [1:48:50] they're having trouble with [1:48:51] their employee issues more than [1:48:51] San Diego So they're not [1:48:52] absolutely perfect in how they [1:48:56] work. [1:48:56] We're looking at in creating a [1:48:57] compromise with Oakland issues [1:49:02] as well I want to fight about i [1:49:02] learned in Oakland over time [1:49:08] issues if we are a Department [1:49:08] of Transportation to work on [1:49:09] traffic citation issues that [1:49:10] can greatly reduce the amount [1:49:14] of effort that's put in by [1:49:14] the police department currently [1:49:15] in Oakland any way on traffic [1:49:20] citation things they put in a [1:49:21] large percentage of what we're [1:49:21] taking on that gridlock how you [1:49:22] can work on that if it's in a [1:49:25] different department of [1:49:26] Transportation if that can help [1:49:27] with overtime issues And you [1:49:33] conclude the issue about our [1:49:33] counterparts in Vancouver is [1:49:34] missing a lot of council [1:49:35] meetings like today also and [1:49:38] it's becoming a bit hurtful. [1:49:39] I really missed her voice and [1:49:44] found a little voice at [1:49:44] the time of the shooting [1:49:45] issues. [1:49:45] I need their voices and good [1:49:46] look how you can appear more [1:49:46] open. [1:49:49] Thank you. [1:49:50] Thank you. [1:49:54] Next is 244461 Phone number [1:49:55] 4461 please on you and let me [1:49:56] know which item or items you [1:50:00] wish to speak to. [1:50:01] I for item one seven You'll [1:50:02] have one minute. [1:50:06] Please proceed. [1:50:06] >> Hi. [1:50:07] I'm a product in San Diego. [1:50:08] My name is David and I wanted [1:50:09] to add my support to [1:50:13] the approval of this year's [1:50:14] work with the tmd, the tmd as [1:50:14] the sole source of funding to [1:50:18] market San Diego and keep us at [1:50:19] the top choice for travelers [1:50:19] when they decide where they [1:50:20] want to spend their vacations. [1:50:25] Also for events at&t provides [1:50:25] all of the important marketing [1:50:26] funds that help drive hotel [1:50:26] room nights. [1:50:31] So since sending will benefit [1:50:32] from at&t investment through [1:50:33] the top, the stronger tourism [1:50:37] is the stronger San Diego is. [1:50:37] >> Thank you. [1:50:37] Thank you. [1:50:38] Next is Mark Neville. [1:50:41] If you come please unmute Mark [1:50:42] Neville. [1:50:42] >> Thank you. [1:50:47] And this is for item 107. [1:50:47] Thank you. [1:50:48] Please proceed. [1:50:48] Good morning. [1:50:49] Honorable Council members. [1:50:53] My name is Mark Neville. [1:50:53] I'm the ceo of Sports San [1:50:54] Diego, the nonprofit group [1:50:58] charged with recruiting, [1:50:58] supporting and hosting tourism [1:50:59] driving sports events to our [1:50:59] community. [1:51:04] On behalf of our board of [1:51:05] directors I respectfully urge [1:51:08] your approval of the fiscal [1:51:08] year 2027 tmd report of [1:51:09] Activities and [1:51:10] the authorization of related [1:51:14] expenditures. [1:51:15] As a nonprofit organization [1:51:15] with no other city funding [1:51:16] mechanism, tmd support is [1:51:21] essential to everything we do. [1:51:22] It is what made possible this [1:51:22] week's nascar San Diego weekend [1:51:27] and what brought Manchester [1:51:28] United, the New Zealand All [1:51:28] Blacks and scores of other [1:51:29] world class tourism driving [1:51:33] events to our destination. [1:51:33] There's also what sustains [1:51:34] beloved annual traditions like [1:51:38] the Holiday Bowl and the Rady [1:51:39] Children's Invitational. [1:51:39] These events don't just fill [1:51:40] hotel rooms. [1:51:44] They support jobs, create tax [1:51:44] revenues and fuel small [1:51:45] businesses, restaurants, local [1:51:51] attractions and our broader [1:51:52] economy. [1:51:52] I certainly hope the council [1:51:53] will vote favorably. [1:51:53] Thank you for that concluding [1:51:54] sentence. [1:51:55] Kathleen Lippert, if you can [1:51:56] please unmute and let me know [1:51:57] which item or items you wish to [1:52:01] speak to. [1:52:07] 50 and and 50502. [1:52:07] >> Please proceed. [1:52:13] You have two minutes. [1:52:14] I'm sorry I'm burning something [1:52:14] on the stove. [1:52:15] I'm going to have to come back [1:52:15] and apologize. [1:52:19] Okay. [1:52:20] Well your final speaker But you [1:52:20] can always send in comments [1:52:21] That doesn't include public [1:52:22] comment on the consent agenda. [1:52:22] >> All right. [1:52:28] I hope that's okay. [1:52:29] So with that I'll turn it over [1:52:30] to my colleagues for any [1:52:35] questions. [1:52:36] Comments Entertain a motion And [1:52:36] now there we go Councilmember [1:52:37] Yellow again. [1:52:40] We'll start off with you. [1:52:40] Thank you. [1:52:40] Council PRESIDENT. [1:52:45] I will start by moving approval [1:52:46] of the consent agenda. [1:52:49] Um and just thank you for your [1:52:50] partnership. [1:52:56] Um, on our resolution, um, I'll [1:53:02] keep it short since we're front [1:53:03] and long. [1:53:03] >> Thank you, Council [1:53:04] PRESIDENT. [1:53:04] All right. [1:53:05] Thank you, Chair So we have a [1:53:05] motion by council member Eli [1:53:07] Rivera to move the consent [1:53:08] items except for 5 or 1 which [1:53:09] will be heard next. [1:53:13] And I'll go ahead and I guess [1:53:14] second the motion to move [1:53:18] the consent items. [1:53:19] Just a couple of comments on my [1:53:20] part. [1:53:20] I want to thank you council [1:53:24] member Gloria for bringing [1:53:24] the resolution on item number [1:53:25] 100. [1:53:30] The city support of these bills [1:53:31] and our collective advocacy [1:53:31] with our nonprofit partners [1:53:32] including Climate Action [1:53:35] Campaign make sure that we have [1:53:36] a stronger voice in Sacramento. [1:53:36] We are furthering [1:53:37] the conversation around utility [1:53:40] affordability and lowering [1:53:41] the bill for San Diegans. [1:53:45] Then item 1 or 2 I've always [1:53:46] had a question in the back of [1:53:46] my mind about Prop 172 and why [1:53:50] we have to spend our dollars [1:53:51] given how much the county gets [1:53:56] for public safety and based on [1:53:57] the old Prop 172 But I'll leave [1:53:58] that for another day. [1:53:58] So with that not for anybody [1:54:01] else in the life we have a [1:54:02] motion by council member Eli [1:54:02] Rivera. [1:54:03] We have a second by myself to [1:54:07] move the consent items except [1:54:07] for 5 or 1. [1:54:11] >> Clerk Please call the vote [1:54:12] I'm sorry the voting system [1:54:12] Please cast your vote and that [1:54:20] passes unanimously 7 to 0 with [1:54:21] Council Member Final Operating [1:54:21] Council Member Campbell. [1:54:22] Absent Thank you Council [1:54:22] PRESIDENT All right. [1:54:26] Thank you for that and [1:54:27] congratulation to our three [1:54:30] arias We got the memo used on. [1:54:31] And with that we'll invite [1:54:34] staff to come up and make a [1:54:40] presentation on 5 or 1. [1:54:41] But first let me have the city [1:54:41] clerk introduce that item. [1:54:42] Thank you. [1:54:46] Council PRESIDENT Item 5a1 was [1:54:47] put on the consent agenda and [1:54:50] it is the proposed fiscal year [1:54:50] 2027 Recreation Center Fund [1:54:51] Budget Opportunity Fund budgets [1:54:54] and 2025 come play outside [1:54:54] report Thank you Council [1:54:55] PRESIDENT If you'd like to [1:54:59] speak on this item please raise [1:55:00] your hand or submit a speaker [1:55:00] slip now. [1:55:01] >> All right with that please [1:55:01] introduce yourselves for [1:55:04] the record and let us know how [1:55:05] much time you need. [1:55:05] >> Thank you. [1:55:06] My name is Sarah Rizzo. [1:55:07] I'm the deputy director with [1:55:10] the Parks and Recreation [1:55:10] Department. [1:55:11] With me today is Salom\ [1:55:11] Martinez, our program equity [1:55:12] manager. [1:55:13] And we will need eight minutes [1:55:14] please. [1:55:14] All right. [1:55:14] When you're ready. [1:55:15] Thank you. [1:55:15] Good. [1:55:16] Good morning. [1:55:18] Today we're here to present [1:55:19] the proposed fiscal year 2027 [1:55:23] Recreation Center Fund budgets [1:55:23] as well as the Opportunity Fund [1:55:24] budget and an overview of [1:55:25] the 2025 complete outside [1:55:28] report. [1:55:29] The Department has 62 [1:55:30] recreation center funds one for [1:55:34] each recreation center in [1:55:34] addition to one for [1:55:35] the Therapeutic Recreation [1:55:36] Services Program and our Age [1:55:39] Well services program. [1:55:39] We also established an [1:55:40] opportunity fund in 2022 [1:55:45] through Council policy 700 Dash [1:55:45] 48. [1:55:46] Recreation center funds are [1:55:46] special revenue funds that are [1:55:49] designated to enhance program [1:55:50] offerings across [1:55:51] the communities as well as [1:55:55] community events and minor [1:55:55] maintenance projects. [1:55:56] They supplement basic [1:55:59] recreation services offered [1:56:00] through the general fund. [1:56:01] They are developed each year in [1:56:04] the fall by department site [1:56:05] supervisors with input from [1:56:06] community recreation groups or [1:56:09] in the absence of a community [1:56:10] recreation group. [1:56:10] They provide they seek input [1:56:11] from the public attending their [1:56:14] facilities either through [1:56:15] programs passing by or through [1:56:18] community events. [1:56:19] >> The proposed fiscal year [1:56:24] 2027 budget has a range varying [1:56:25] from 23,000 up to a high of [1:56:27] just under 1 million with our [1:56:28] average at $154,000. [1:56:32] These variations occur based on [1:56:33] the amount of activity [1:56:33] occurring at a recreation [1:56:34] center the size and the amount [1:56:37] of space they have available to [1:56:38] permit and or program as well [1:56:38] as the number of parks and [1:56:42] facilities in the community in [1:56:42] which they are permitting [1:56:47] budget revenue generates from [1:56:47] program registration fees [1:56:48] either through cost recoverable [1:56:51] contract services or through [1:56:52] minor fees charged for staff [1:56:52] led programs. [1:56:56] In addition to the permit fees [1:56:57] that I mentioned earlier. [1:56:57] In addition they receive [1:57:00] contributions through [1:57:01] the Opportunity Fund on an [1:57:01] annual basis and MAY do [1:57:02] fundraising through community [1:57:05] events. [1:57:06] Expenses go directly towards [1:57:07] recreation programing. [1:57:07] As I mentioned, contract [1:57:10] service providers, jerseys, [1:57:11] trophies, equipment supplies, [1:57:15] mat etc.. [1:57:16] Special events They go towards [1:57:20] vendors, supplies, equipment. [1:57:21] And again those minor [1:57:21] maintenance projects such as [1:57:23] gym floor resurfacing field [1:57:28] maintenance, renovation etc.. [1:57:29] This year we are anticipating [1:57:30] having an ending balance in [1:57:33] fiscal year 26 of just over [1:57:34] $9.7 million. [1:57:38] We project revenue in fiscal [1:57:39] year 27 of just over $5.4 [1:57:39] million. [1:57:43] This year we did identify [1:57:44] $555,000 in opportunity funds [1:57:48] to allocate which is a 38% [1:57:49] increase from last year And we [1:57:53] are proposing to expend just [1:57:54] over $9.5 million collectively [1:57:58] across all recreation center [1:57:58] funds. [1:57:59] The slide shows a glimpse of [1:58:02] how recreation center funds [1:58:03] have bounced back from [1:58:03] the pandemic. [1:58:07] You'll see on the far left that [1:58:08] was our pandemic year in which [1:58:08] we didn't spend or generate [1:58:12] much funding. [1:58:13] And we are currently at a point [1:58:14] where we have exceeded our [1:58:17] pre-pandemic revenue and [1:58:21] expenditure thresholds. [1:58:22] >> The opportunity fund [1:58:27] allocation process that Leslie [1:58:27] mentioned earlier the fiscal [1:58:31] year 2027 available funds for [1:58:31] allocations $555,000. [1:58:34] That's a 38% increase from f y [1:58:35] 26 and is a direct result of [1:58:36] the fee increases that took [1:58:39] place in APRIL of 2025. [1:58:40] In addition to the donations [1:58:40] from the Carmel Valley [1:58:44] Recreation Center Fund of [1:58:45] $25,000 and the Canyon Side [1:58:48] Recreation Center Fund of [1:58:49] $10,000, the Opportunity Fund, [1:58:49] as I mentioned, is governed [1:58:53] through council policies 700 [1:58:54] dash 48. [1:58:54] Each year the department [1:58:57] nominates six department staff [1:58:58] to form a committee. [1:58:59] And this year we added our San [1:59:02] Diego Parks Foundation co-chair [1:59:02] to participate in this process. [1:59:07] They review the policy, [1:59:07] the budgets, the proposals, [1:59:08] the methodology, historical [1:59:11] recommendations from [1:59:11] the council and they analyze [1:59:16] through a scoring matrix a [1:59:16] scoring system based on [1:59:17] the available funds of each [1:59:21] recreation center, the proposed [1:59:22] budgets, the proximity of that [1:59:25] recreation center to a [1:59:26] community of concern whether it [1:59:27] being directly in a community [1:59:30] of concern or servicing a [1:59:31] community of concern and if [1:59:32] there's an aquatic facility in [1:59:35] the area that also shares [1:59:36] within those recreation center [1:59:36] funds. [1:59:40] In addition per recommendation [1:59:40] from Council District nine, we [1:59:41] also require that recreation [1:59:44] center funds requesting a fund [1:59:45] from an allocation from [1:59:49] the Opportunity Fund spend [1:59:50] their budget down about down to [1:59:50] $5,000 because that allows for [1:59:54] the opportunity fund to spread [1:59:55] to more facilities and or [1:59:56] provide a larger budget. [1:59:59] This year the Opportunity Fund [2:00:03] Committee was able to identify [2:00:03] 14 sites eligible for [2:00:04] allocation with a target of [2:00:08] providing each of them a budget [2:00:08] of $85,000. [2:00:12] This is an increase from last [2:00:13] year where you'll see we were [2:00:16] able to allocate 11 sites a [2:00:20] budget of $65,000 and the year [2:00:21] prior ten sites a budget of [2:00:24] $50,000 And our inaugural year [2:00:25] six sites received $84,000. [2:00:26] So in total since [2:00:30] the opportunity fund was [2:00:31] established, 15 sites that [2:00:31] would be included in this [2:00:35] upcoming budget for fiscal year [2:00:35] will have benefited from [2:00:38] the opportunity funds receiving [2:00:43] over $1.7 million. [2:00:44] I will add the Department has [2:00:44] taken a multi-pronged approach [2:00:48] to establishing funding sources [2:00:48] for sites in underserved [2:00:53] communities whether that be [2:00:54] through the opportunity fund, [2:00:55] through grants and through our [2:00:58] philanthropic partners and [2:00:58] salemi. [2:00:59] We'll talk more to that shortly [2:01:00] on the complete outside funding [2:01:02] that helps support programs [2:01:03] across the city. [2:01:04] Here are the 14 sites that are [2:01:08] proposed to receive opportunity [2:01:08] funding. [2:01:09] Azalea, Stockton. [2:01:12] Cesar Solis Penn Athletic. [2:01:13] Willie Henderson. [2:01:13] Collina Del Sol Park de La [2:01:14] Cruz. [2:01:17] Skyline Hills Mountain View Bay [2:01:18] Terraces Choice Lake City [2:01:23] Heights South Crest and Encanto [2:01:23] . [2:01:24] The slide will show you their [2:01:24] opportunity Fund score. [2:01:26] The higher their score, [2:01:27] the higher their financial [2:01:27] need. [2:01:28] And again those other factors [2:01:29] whether they are residing in a [2:01:32] community of concern and if [2:01:32] they have an aquatic facility [2:01:37] those also boost points and [2:01:37] you'll see that budget baseline [2:01:38] of $85,000. [2:01:42] There are some sites here that [2:01:42] are anticipated to receive hud [2:01:43] funding this fiscal year. [2:01:47] The committee still felt that [2:01:47] it was important to continue [2:01:48] providing these opportunity [2:01:51] fund allocations to those sites [2:01:52] in the event that the hud [2:01:53] funding is pulled for any [2:01:56] reason. [2:01:56] And with that these are [2:02:01] the actions that we are [2:02:01] requesting of the Council this [2:02:02] year. [2:02:06] And I will hand it over to [2:02:07] Salemi to go over the complete [2:02:07] outside report and then we'll [2:02:12] take any questions you MAY have [2:02:12] . [2:02:13] Thank you. [2:02:13] So this year I'm just going [2:02:14] over a quick summary of [2:02:17] the complete outside program [2:02:18] that we offered in 2025 and our [2:02:19] accomplishments. [2:02:22] This program began I began as a [2:02:23] part of the mayor for Mayor [2:02:24] Todd Gloria Summer for all of [2:02:27] us initiative. [2:02:27] This program targets youth in [2:02:28] historically underserved [2:02:31] communities and aims to provide [2:02:32] equitable access to a variety [2:02:33] of recreational activities and [2:02:37] events for all to attend. [2:02:37] Since the inception of [2:02:38] the program we're proud to [2:02:40] announce that we've reached [2:02:41] over 208,000 youth adults and [2:02:45] seniors over the past five [2:02:45] years. [2:02:50] Programing participation and [2:02:51] funding has fluctuated as seen [2:02:51] on the table below. [2:02:54] And that's just due to [2:02:55] the changes in programing [2:02:56] that's being offered or [2:02:56] the funding available year [2:03:00] after year to be able to have [2:03:00] those programs. [2:03:01] This year we had less level of [2:03:04] camps and less deep sea fishing [2:03:05] trips which resulted in lower [2:03:05] participation. [2:03:09] But overall we did see an [2:03:09] increase in funding from [2:03:13] contributors in 2025 [2:03:13] programing. [2:03:14] And our goal every year is to [2:03:15] increase participation and [2:03:17] funding as much as possible. [2:03:18] I'll just ask for an additional [2:03:19] three minutes. [2:03:22] Thank you. [2:03:23] The complete outside programing [2:03:23] events are supported through a [2:03:24] combination of city funding [2:03:27] grants and donations. [2:03:28] We appreciate all funders that [2:03:29] help support this program [2:03:32] including the San Diego Parks [2:03:33] Foundation, the county of San [2:03:33] Diego feeding San Diego San [2:03:37] Diego Foundation and our own [2:03:38] local San Diego P.D. Prevent [2:03:43] Drowning Foundation and the c e [2:03:43] k Foundation. [2:03:46] In 2025, more than 2.1 million [2:03:47] in contributions were utilized [2:03:50] to support the complete outside [2:03:51] programs and this was across [2:03:52] all of our historically [2:03:52] underserved communities. [2:03:56] Since the inception [2:03:56] the department has received [2:03:58] over 9.5 million in total [2:04:03] contributions. [2:04:04] >> The next slides here will [2:04:05] just go over a brief summary of [2:04:08] what those programs look like [2:04:08] and the attendance [2:04:09] participation. [2:04:12] So so far we've expanded [2:04:12] the programs in 2025 to 36 [2:04:13] recreation centers and for [2:04:17] aquatic facilities during [2:04:18] the month of MAY through [2:04:18] SEPTEMBER which are peak summer [2:04:22] months with the target [2:04:22] investment in council districts [2:04:23] four, eight and nine. [2:04:24] But we did expand to council [2:04:27] districts three and seven as [2:04:27] well. [2:04:27] The primary focus for [2:04:28] the programing was based on [2:04:31] documented gaps in access to [2:04:32] recreational enrichment [2:04:32] opportunities. [2:04:33] And our staff actually works [2:04:36] alongside the site supervisors [2:04:37] to determine where the need is [2:04:38] to enhance their programs as [2:04:41] needed. [2:04:45] So overall we've reached over [2:04:46] 54,476 participating FTEs [2:04:50] through 1418 programs that were [2:04:50] offered in total. [2:04:51] >> So here you'll see and I [2:04:54] won't go over all of these but [2:04:55] you'll just see an overview of [2:04:55] all the programs that were [2:04:56] offered. [2:04:59] So kudos to all our staff that [2:05:00] work day in and day out over [2:05:00] the summer to put on these [2:05:01] programs. [2:05:04] But you'll see high level this [2:05:05] this is over the last five [2:05:05] years the attendance at [2:05:09] participation numbers for our [2:05:10] day camps, our specialty camps, [2:05:10] nature camps, team nights and [2:05:14] left to right you'll see [2:05:17] the numbers from 2021 to 2020 [2:05:18] 1225 and how the program has [2:05:22] grown. [2:05:23] As mentioned we see some of [2:05:24] the fluctuation in the amount [2:05:27] of specialty camp specialty [2:05:28] camps are. [2:05:28] These are the gymnastics, [2:05:32] the karate, the stem, the drone [2:05:33] programs that you'll see that [2:05:33] are being offered out in your [2:05:34] communities. [2:05:37] And we saw a reduction in [2:05:38] the level out camps which [2:05:38] dropped the participation. [2:05:42] Nature camps are offered by [2:05:42] the staff. [2:05:43] They the this program rotates [2:05:46] around year after year to [2:05:47] different communities to be [2:05:48] able to offer every community [2:05:52] the opportunity for nature [2:05:52] based programing and field [2:05:53] trips. [2:05:53] The teen night programs are [2:05:54] always really great. [2:05:57] Thanks to the staff They work [2:05:57] diligently to coordinate all of [2:06:01] the activities for youth ages [2:06:02] 13 to 17. [2:06:02] Overall a really great program [2:06:03] in partnership with the San [2:06:06] Diego pd or free food is [2:06:07] offered activities, games, [2:06:11] sports and field trips. [2:06:12] And we were able to increase [2:06:12] numbers in our teen [2:06:16] participation from 3500 last [2:06:20] year to a little over 4200 this [2:06:21] year. [2:06:21] >> In addition, you'll see our [2:06:25] parks after dart program that [2:06:26] just kicked off this summer as [2:06:26] well. [2:06:29] Again, another very successful [2:06:30] program that we are offering at [2:06:31] five locations. [2:06:35] This is every Thursday, Friday [2:06:35] and Saturday from 5 to 8. [2:06:38] Total of 99 events that were [2:06:42] offered last year with three [2:06:42] over 36,000 participants. [2:06:45] We did go from eight weeks to [2:06:46] seven weeks only because we had [2:06:46] to adapt the program with [2:06:50] the school schedule that got [2:06:50] out earlier. [2:06:51] It ended later. [2:06:51] But overall a very great [2:06:55] successful event and we haven't [2:06:55] been out. [2:06:56] We encourage you to come out. [2:06:57] Free meals for the kids [2:07:00] community resources and all [2:07:00] kinds of youth activities and [2:07:01] entertainment as well. [2:07:05] We saw an increase in aquatic [2:07:05] programs with our free Learn to [2:07:06] Swim program and free swimming [2:07:09] that was offered at a park [2:07:10] after dark locations such as [2:07:11] City Heights Memorial. [2:07:14] We have our beloved movie in [2:07:15] the Parks event that also [2:07:16] kicked off this summer with a [2:07:16] lot of great events that are [2:07:19] being enhanced by the San Diego [2:07:19] Parks Foundation as well. [2:07:20] So we appreciate their [2:07:23] contribution contributions. [2:07:24] And although I did say that we [2:07:25] did see a reduction in deep sea [2:07:28] fishing trips, we did identify [2:07:29] other funding to be able to [2:07:29] bring back those programs this [2:07:33] year as well. [2:07:33] With that said, that's just a [2:07:34] brief overview. [2:07:37] We invite you to read the full [2:07:38] report to see all the great [2:07:39] details of the programs that [2:07:39] we've offered. [2:07:42] But our commitment to provide [2:07:43] equitable access to enjoyable [2:07:44] and fulfillment recreation [2:07:44] opportunities for our residents [2:07:47] will continue. [2:07:48] Our efforts include expanding [2:07:49] programing opportunities and [2:07:52] types of programs, reassessing [2:07:53] community needs through [2:07:57] feedback, seeking additional [2:07:58] funding resources and grants. [2:07:58] Our community recreation needs [2:08:02] assessment should be coming out [2:08:03] in the next month or two and [2:08:04] we'll take the recommendations [2:08:07] and the results from that [2:08:07] assessment and be able to put [2:08:08] those into action moving [2:08:09] forward in this next year [2:08:12] including how to allocate those [2:08:13] fundings moving forward. [2:08:13] So with that that's the end of [2:08:17] my presentation and we open it [2:08:18] up to any questions that you [2:08:18] MAY have. [2:08:19] Thank you. [2:08:19] All right. [2:08:22] Thank you for the presentation [2:08:22] And clerk please proceed with [2:08:23] public comment. [2:08:27] >> I do not see any speaker [2:08:28] slips here in council chambers. [2:08:28] Yeah, okay. [2:08:32] Come to the microphone. [2:08:32] I think it was in the consent. [2:08:33] Yeah. [2:08:35] Another paper Because it was a [2:08:35] We'll get it from you. [2:08:41] >> Yeah, we'll get it. [2:08:42] >> We don't need another one. [2:08:43] Since it was pulled from [2:08:45] consent, right? [2:08:46] >> Yeah. [2:08:46] One minute please for a minute. [2:08:50] So I'd like to know because [2:08:51] there's these camps and [2:08:55] children are, you know, [2:08:56] engaging in different things [2:08:59] here I would like to know what [2:09:00] you guys are doing to ensure [2:09:01] that you're not hiring [2:09:05] pedophiles because not all [2:09:05] pedophiles are labeled as sex [2:09:09] offenders at this point because [2:09:10] they have not been convicted [2:09:10] and they walk around in suits [2:09:15] and look like everyday people [2:09:15] and they go where children are. [2:09:20] And so I mean in schools [2:09:21] they're hiring instructional [2:09:24] aides down in San Isidro and [2:09:25] hiring that from the parents [2:09:26] And there's children It's like [2:09:29] happening during nap time And [2:09:30] because it's being hidden [2:09:34] there's children who are scared [2:09:34] to take naps but yet there's no [2:09:35] other victims. [2:09:38] So I just would like to know [2:09:39] what checks and balances you [2:09:40] guys are doing to make sure [2:09:40] that you're not putting [2:09:44] children in danger Again, I was [2:09:45] at a daycare and it was [2:09:48] the woman's son that does [2:09:53] things in public Comment here [2:09:54] in council chambers by those [2:09:54] participating remotely. [2:09:57] Beekman You'll have one minute [2:09:58] to speak to item as 501 Hi. [2:09:58] >> Thank you. [2:10:03] Pleasure beekman Thanks for [2:10:04] the words of Dora She's [2:10:07] described your life a lot [2:10:07] recently on previous items. [2:10:11] Thank you for those efforts and [2:10:12] what can be doing to address [2:10:12] the issue she's talking about [2:10:20] for this item I am interested [2:10:21] It was originally a committee a [2:10:22] few weeks ago. [2:10:23] It's now here or within this [2:10:26] past month I guess it's now [2:10:26] here. [2:10:27] I'm interested in the rec [2:10:31] center portion and the funding [2:10:36] ideas I I've talked a lot about [2:10:36] . [2:10:37] You know I think there's been [2:10:37] some really heavy conversations [2:10:38] going about on about the future [2:10:41] of biometric tech in our rec [2:10:42] centers But it's been a quiet [2:10:42] conversation. [2:10:46] How is that conversation going? [2:10:47] And I just wanted to remind you [2:10:47] does that be a part of these [2:10:51] funding questions and how can [2:10:51] we be more clear that we can [2:10:55] talk openly about biometric [2:10:56] tech and it shouldn't be a [2:10:56] fearful subject. [2:10:57] It's a matter of fact part of [2:11:01] our everyday lives Now we have [2:11:01] to be more open and clear. [2:11:02] >> Good luck How you can can be [2:11:03] Thank you. [2:11:05] That doesn't fit your time And [2:11:06] that concludes public comment [2:11:06] on this item. [2:11:07] >> All right. [2:11:09] Thank you City Clerk. [2:11:10] So with that we'll turn it back [2:11:11] to our council colleagues for [2:11:14] questions, comments are and [2:11:15] entertain a motion and we will [2:11:16] start with Council member [2:11:19] Moreno Thank you and thank you [2:11:20] for the presentation. [2:11:20] >> I want to start off by [2:11:24] saying that Parks and Rec is [2:11:25] one of my most favorite [2:11:29] departments and also by saying [2:11:33] that we very much associate [2:11:34] with the Parks and Rec in all [2:11:35] their activities. [2:11:36] We were just at Parks after [2:11:38] Dark on Friday. [2:11:39] We got there an hour late and [2:11:43] my daughter didn't get to get a [2:11:48] what is it called a wristband [2:11:48] because they were all out which [2:11:49] she was sad But this is exactly [2:11:53] what we want right? [2:11:54] Kids engaged and climbing [2:11:54] walls. [2:11:58] So kudos to that. [2:11:59] Can you quickly explain what [2:12:01] the opportunity fund is and why [2:12:06] it was created? [2:12:07] Yes, Thank you for [2:12:07] the question. [2:12:08] The Opportunity Fund is a [2:12:08] special revenue fund that [2:12:11] collects revenue via permit [2:12:12] fees and it was created to help [2:12:16] expand equitable programing and [2:12:17] access in our underserved [2:12:17] communities. [2:12:21] Thank you. [2:12:22] >> And how does the money get [2:12:26] allocated? [2:12:26] Excuse me? [2:12:30] Each year the Department [2:12:31] nominates a committee of [2:12:31] department staff. [2:12:32] They're nominated via their [2:12:35] division deputy directors. [2:12:36] This year we had six department [2:12:40] staff comprising of various [2:12:41] analysts through the department [2:12:41] an area manager, district [2:12:45] manager, park ranger and we [2:12:46] also invited our sanogo Parks [2:12:49] Foundation co-chair to join [2:12:50] the process this year. [2:12:50] Got you. [2:12:51] So this was the director [2:12:55] the deputy director who got to [2:12:55] choose the Opportunity Fund [2:12:58] committee, the deputy directors [2:12:59] nominated staff from their [2:13:00] division and who ultimately [2:13:03] chose somebody Somebody was [2:13:03] nominated. [2:13:08] So who chose the nominees? [2:13:08] The deputy directors and [2:13:09] ultimately our program equity [2:13:14] manager approved the slate. [2:13:14] >> Okay. [2:13:14] Approved the slate. [2:13:18] I'm very disappointed. [2:13:22] Wanted to see that in the list [2:13:23] of 15 parks and rec centers [2:13:23] that are to receive opportunity [2:13:27] funds only Caesars Sillies and [2:13:30] South Crest Park in District [2:13:31] eight are receiving funds this [2:13:34] year in District nine five [2:13:38] parks are receiving a total of [2:13:38] 243,000 this fiscal year last [2:13:42] year for Parks and Dean and [2:13:45] nine received 160 in district [2:13:46] for seven parks were allocated [2:13:50] a total of 242,000 Last year [2:13:53] they received about $157,000. [2:13:57] How much opportunity funds did [2:13:58] District eight receive this [2:14:02] year? [2:14:20] Don't answer that part 55,000 [2:14:24] for Caesar Solis and 13,929 for [2:14:28] South Crest. [2:14:29] I'll do the math right here [2:14:33] 55,000 for Caesar Solis And how [2:14:33] much? [2:14:37] 55,008 14 and 13,009 29 I'll [2:14:38] put 13,000 since I didn't get [2:14:42] that So roughly around 70 [2:14:43] something thousand dollars. [2:14:43] >> Does that sound equitable to [2:14:47] you when District eight [2:14:51] received about $75,000 compared [2:14:54] to the 250,000 that d nine and [2:14:55] d four received this year? [2:14:56] And let me point to you that [2:14:59] last year District eight only [2:15:00] received $49,000 in opportunity [2:15:07] funds while d nine received 160 [2:15:08] and d four received 157 So I [2:15:12] ask you again does that sound [2:15:13] equitable to you Now I [2:15:14] appreciate your concern and [2:15:15] bringing that to our attention. [2:15:17] The committee focuses on [2:15:18] the scoring matrix and again [2:15:19] sites that have higher revenue [2:15:22] fund balances I'm sorry [2:15:23] Recreation Center fund balances [2:15:26] have more funding available to [2:15:27] put towards programing So when [2:15:31] they set a baseline of $85,000 [2:15:31] as a budget for a recreation [2:15:32] center fund, those were [2:15:36] the sites that had a fund [2:15:37] balance less than 84th out [2:15:41] $85,000 excuse me. [2:15:42] So per se it was not a council [2:15:45] district focused decision. [2:15:46] It was based on the available [2:15:46] funding they had got. [2:15:50] You All of these are [2:15:51] communities of concern that [2:15:52] we're talking about and they're [2:15:55] not being treated equitable And [2:15:56] that's why I'm bringing this [2:15:56] up. [2:15:57] It's not fair that my [2:16:00] communities continue to be left [2:16:00] behind yet again when there are [2:16:01] programs such as [2:16:05] the opportunity Fund to help [2:16:09] get equity back a park and rec [2:16:09] . [2:16:10] So you're saying that [2:16:13] the reason that District eight [2:16:13] did not receive funds is [2:16:18] because it's fund balance in [2:16:22] each park and rec was not [2:16:22] expended? [2:16:23] >> Why are these parks in [2:16:26] District eight not spending [2:16:27] their funding? [2:16:27] >> Yeah, that's a great [2:16:28] question. [2:16:31] As I mentioned earlier we have [2:16:32] multiple funding sources that [2:16:33] are supporting the expansion of [2:16:36] equitable programing across our [2:16:37] underserved communities and [2:16:40] that includes the 2.1 million [2:16:41] we just discussed and come play [2:16:44] outside funding which about 1.8 [2:16:45] million came from the San Diego [2:16:45] Parks Foundation. [2:16:49] And so we've seen a growth in [2:16:49] our fund balances across a lot [2:16:50] of the underserved communities [2:16:53] because the San Diego parks [2:16:54] Foundation has began to [2:16:55] contribute and pour so much [2:16:58] funding into supporting a lot [2:16:59] of the primary programing [2:16:59] that's going on at these [2:17:00] facilities. [2:17:03] So because Parks After Dark was [2:17:04] out Silver Wing they did not [2:17:05] receive funding. [2:17:08] That's what you're telling me. [2:17:09] They do have grant funding [2:17:13] source as well as funding from [2:17:13] the San Diego Parks Foundation [2:17:14] that help support their [2:17:15] programs such as their day [2:17:16] camps, their nature camps as [2:17:21] well as their enhanced programs [2:17:22] and services that are being [2:17:22] offered as well. [2:17:27] I also heard yourself say that [2:17:28] there's fund balances that are [2:17:31] not being expended which to me [2:17:32] was absolutely shocking. [2:17:36] That was extremely shocking. [2:17:36] Montgomery Waller, also known [2:17:37] as Lucky Waller has been [2:17:41] requesting a scoreboard for [2:17:41] their baseball field. [2:17:42] Lucky Waller has a very long [2:17:45] history. [2:17:46] It was the first baseball [2:17:47] league in the South Bay. [2:17:51] They contacted my office and [2:17:54] there's an invoice of $34,000 [2:17:54] that they sent to me regarding [2:17:58] their scoreboard. [2:18:02] Montgomery Waller has a total [2:18:03] of $302,000 And once again I [2:18:04] ask why was this funding not [2:18:08] expended Memorial at Memorial [2:18:08] Park the San Diego American [2:18:12] Memorial Little League can't [2:18:13] play baseball because their [2:18:18] their field isn't leveled and [2:18:18] bleachers and dugouts don't [2:18:23] have covers And yet I'm being [2:18:24] told that they're not. [2:18:25] These park and RECs are not [2:18:28] expending their funds So that [2:18:28] to me is just mind boggling. [2:18:32] I hear you when you say that [2:18:33] there are other funds that are [2:18:34] being received in these park [2:18:37] and rec facilities but I don't [2:18:38] think that should be a [2:18:39] deterrent for spending [2:18:42] opportunity funds in this [2:18:43] community In the in my [2:18:43] community for instance, [2:18:47] oftentimes we have been left [2:18:48] behind for many years in many [2:18:52] administrations and it's going [2:18:53] to take a lot it's going to [2:18:54] take more funding and it's [2:18:57] going to take more focus and [2:18:58] more money. [2:18:58] And I've shared with my [2:18:59] colleagues that it's going to [2:19:02] take more money for us to get [2:19:02] back on the same track to have [2:19:05] programing as other communities [2:19:06] ,as other park and rec [2:19:10] communities. [2:19:11] >> Did you guys know about [2:19:12] the Little League? [2:19:15] Montgomery Waller requesting a [2:19:20] a scoreboard at the tune of [2:19:24] $34,000 and with a $300,000 [2:19:25] budget why was that not spent [2:19:25] out? [2:19:29] I unfortunately just learned of [2:19:30] that in the recent weeks and we [2:19:31] prepared these budgets several [2:19:34] months ago. [2:19:35] So this is definitely something [2:19:35] we can consider for use [2:19:36] the Montgomery Waller funds to [2:19:39] support that scoreboard And I [2:19:40] just think that the way [2:19:40] the process the way that this [2:19:44] is being handled is not [2:19:44] equitable. [2:19:45] I haven't gotten a good [2:19:49] explanation as to why [2:19:50] opportunity funds are being [2:19:54] expended at such a I don't I [2:19:54] can't do math as fast as I [2:19:55] could speak And the percentage [2:19:59] that District aid is receiving [2:20:00] in an opportunity funds is just [2:20:03] I would be doing a disservice [2:20:04] to my constituents if I didn't [2:20:08] stand up and say I'm not going [2:20:08] to vote for this. [2:20:09] This is absolutely not [2:20:09] equitable. [2:20:12] This is not what the intention [2:20:13] was for these opportunity funds [2:20:14] And I would call to question [2:20:17] the committee that is being [2:20:18] formed and how they're choosing [2:20:23] oftentimes I understand this is [2:20:23] the process but I will tell you [2:20:26] on the record this process is [2:20:27] absolutely flawed especially [2:20:32] when a council member knows [2:20:32] more about what the communit [2:20:33] what the park and rec needs [2:20:37] than what the director needs. [2:20:38] That to me is just it's [2:20:51] shocking My my residents would [2:20:55] greatly appreciate for their [2:20:56] funding allocations to their [2:20:59] park and RECs and District [2:21:00] eight so residents in my [2:21:01] community are able to enjoy [2:21:04] much more quality programing in [2:21:05] parks near their neighborhoods. [2:21:08] We don't want to drive past [2:21:09] the 94 We don't we don't want [2:21:14] to go and have a movie you know [2:21:15] to go have any type of [2:21:18] programing to have oil painting [2:21:19] or whatever the cases I [2:21:23] strongly disagree with [2:21:24] the decision that has been [2:21:26] presented because District [2:21:27] eight deserves way more than [2:21:28] what the city of San Diego is [2:21:28] giving it with the opportunity [2:21:32] funds And I would urge my [2:21:33] colleagues to send this back to [2:21:35] staff and to fix this So it's a [2:21:40] more equitable it's more [2:21:41] equitable the District eight So [2:21:41] thank you. [2:21:45] COUNCILMAN Moreno, before you [2:21:46] wrapped your comments, Andy [2:21:46] Fields on the line you might [2:21:49] want to hear his comments and [2:21:50] then respond and thank you [2:21:54] Council PRESIDENT And thank you [2:21:55] COUNCILMAN Moreno for your very [2:21:55] important comments. [2:21:59] Yes, our department is aware of [2:21:59] the issues that you've [2:22:00] described both at Memorial and [2:22:04] at Lucky Waller. [2:22:04] We've been working with [2:22:05] the Memorial Little League in [2:22:06] fact on that very scoreboard. [2:22:06] The main problem with [2:22:09] the scoreboard is that [2:22:09] the scoreboard itself lacks a [2:22:13] ability to use your cell phone [2:22:14] to activate it. [2:22:14] So one of the things working [2:22:15] with the Little League on is [2:22:18] how we can get that corrected. [2:22:19] We don't know if it's a full on [2:22:20] replacement of the entire [2:22:20] scoreboard but we're in [2:22:24] the process of determining that [2:22:24] now and that's where we think [2:22:25] some of the fun balance that's [2:22:29] available with Memorial be very [2:22:29] helpful to achieve that [2:22:30] replacement. [2:22:30] So we are actively working on [2:22:34] that as well And Lucky Waller, [2:22:34] we understand those concerns [2:22:38] and what a significant piece of [2:22:39] the action there is is that we [2:22:40] need to actually establish some [2:22:43] capital projects to address [2:22:44] various issues with [2:22:44] the existing lighting system as [2:22:48] well as addressing the area [2:22:48] around the recreation center [2:22:53] including the play areas. [2:22:54] So we are aware of those issues [2:22:58] to the recreation center funds [2:22:59] are continuing to be an area of [2:23:00] resource for us to address [2:23:04] these long needed repairs. [2:23:05] You're absolutely right about [2:23:05] that and you have our [2:23:06] commitment to will do what we [2:23:10] can to spend those moneys down [2:23:10] so that we can be very much [2:23:11] more in line with [2:23:15] the methodology. [2:23:15] Now question was raised earlier [2:23:16] about who serves on [2:23:16] the committee and what [2:23:20] the committee methodology is. [2:23:20] The methodology is truly based [2:23:21] on how much money is available [2:23:25] to spend in each of [2:23:25] the different communities that [2:23:26] are historically underserved. [2:23:27] It just happens There's been [2:23:30] more money that's been [2:23:30] accumulated in the District [2:23:31] eight locations when compared [2:23:35] to the others but that's also [2:23:36] part of a long term trajectory [2:23:36] to push the opportunity Fund [2:23:41] into all of the areas and get [2:23:42] all of them up to where they [2:23:45] can actually achieve some of [2:23:46] the very outcomes that you're [2:23:47] seeking to achieve here. [2:23:47] So please know that we're all [2:23:51] in as far as trying to address [2:23:52] this and to fix this as best we [2:23:52] can. [2:23:53] And we do have our apologies on [2:23:56] any missed communication or [2:23:57] misunderstanding. [2:23:57] We are as MR. Roscoe mentioned [2:24:01] in a transitionary period [2:24:02] misere So we'll be assuming [2:24:06] the leadership role for [2:24:07] the southern parts of San Diego [2:24:08] in the near future and that's [2:24:08] as a result of some of [2:24:12] the budgetary changes that are [2:24:13] being implemented currently. [2:24:14] But we would love to be with [2:24:14] your office and have further [2:24:18] discussions to together solve [2:24:18] these many problems that have [2:24:19] been outlined today. [2:24:19] Thank you. [2:24:22] Thank you. [2:24:23] Thank you for that. [2:24:24] And I just I just want to close [2:24:28] by saying I heard a few things [2:24:28] here. [2:24:29] I heard that my community is [2:24:30] not receiving opportunity funds [2:24:34] this year because one we don't [2:24:34] have they get too much [2:24:40] nonprofit funding And [2:24:40] the second one that I heard was [2:24:45] we haven't formulated I don't [2:24:46] want to call it a capital [2:24:46] improvement project but we [2:24:50] haven't formulated a needs [2:24:51] assessment and that's why you [2:24:52] guys did it know that [2:24:57] Montgomery Waller needs a [2:24:57] scoreboard and it hasn't worked [2:25:00] for years yet they're sitting [2:25:01] on $300,000 So this is staff [2:25:06] not being prepared to to to [2:25:07] spend all the funding that a [2:25:11] park and rec has. [2:25:12] Once again my issue with this [2:25:17] is my community is very much in [2:25:17] need. [2:25:18] We very much need programing at [2:25:23] our park and that is why I [2:25:24] fight tooth and nail every [2:25:24] single year to make sure that [2:25:28] we get the funding. [2:25:29] This is not equitable and [2:25:34] the way that you guys are [2:25:35] scoring these parking racks is [2:25:35] not equitable either. [2:25:40] So like I said I would request [2:25:41] and I would ask my colleagues [2:25:46] to please send this back and [2:25:47] find that it would be fine if [2:25:47] it was one year. [2:25:52] It's one year We messed up. [2:25:52] >> That's fine but this is two [2:25:53] years now that district has [2:25:54] been left behind and I'm not [2:25:54] going to stand for it. [2:25:57] So that concludes my comments. [2:25:58] >> Thank you. [2:25:58] All right. [2:25:59] Thank you. [2:26:03] COUNCILMAN Moreno between Andy [2:26:04] and Kota JUNE is typically [2:26:04] budget. [2:26:09] We do a lot of budgets. [2:26:10] How do we address the concern? [2:26:10] I don't see anybody else [2:26:11] jumping the lights. [2:26:15] I think there's some level of [2:26:15] support here. [2:26:16] >> I think looking forward we [2:26:17] can absolutely go back to [2:26:21] the committee that select [2:26:22] the opportunity fund [2:26:22] allocations to maybe [2:26:23] incorporate more council [2:26:23] feedback and take it maybe [2:26:26] outside of just the department [2:26:27] . [2:26:27] I applaud the Parks Rec [2:26:28] Department for bringing in an [2:26:29] external philanthropic partner [2:26:33] to help score but I think a [2:26:34] council perspective would also [2:26:34] be helpful. [2:26:35] These are the dollars that fund [2:26:38] much of the summer programing [2:26:39] at all rec centers in all of [2:26:40] your districts And so we do [2:26:41] need to move ahead with some [2:26:45] action before the end of this [2:26:46] fiscal year. [2:26:46] So we have maybe two weeks [2:26:47] left. [2:26:51] I do caution against going back [2:26:52] to the committee to reallocate [2:26:53] the funds because I don't think [2:26:57] that process would be able to [2:26:58] be done in time prior to JULY [2:26:59] 1st when these funds would be [2:27:03] necessary And and Councilmember [2:27:04] ,I completely understand your [2:27:05] concern here And I realize that [2:27:05] the dollar amount proposed in [2:27:10] this current allocation is far [2:27:11] less than what d four and 9 [2:27:14] A.M. I sure as well you are [2:27:15] going into that fy 27 with $1.2 [2:27:16] million in total funds which is [2:27:21] both which is more than both d [2:27:21] four and nine Hence I think [2:27:22] that the lower allocation now [2:27:26] because staff didn't spend it [2:27:27] how do I look at ad8 residents? [2:27:28] How do I look at a kid at [2:27:29] the Montgomery Memorial and [2:27:32] tell them you can't play [2:27:33] baseball because staff didn't [2:27:37] spend the money? [2:27:38] You just said we have $1.2 [2:27:39] million. [2:27:39] I hope the little leagues are [2:27:44] listening to this and I hope [2:27:44] all the news is listening to [2:27:45] this as well. [2:27:45] This is really, really, really [2:27:49] making me angry. [2:27:50] >> There's no justification to [2:27:55] this member is 100% of [2:28:00] the opportunity fund allocated [2:28:01] the projected amount? [2:28:07] Yes Thank Well actually [2:28:08] Councilmember Eli Rivera on [2:28:13] the lights and see what [2:28:14] thoughts you might have. [2:28:19] >> Yeah I think there's a I get [2:28:20] similarly frustrated we don't [2:28:21] get money out the door in [2:28:25] the kicking we get this [2:28:25] conversation all the time We [2:28:26] create equity policies and in [2:28:31] those policies on paper don't [2:28:32] result in equity on the ground. [2:28:36] It makes us look like we are [2:28:43] just full of it and and when we [2:28:43] start talking to communities [2:28:44] about it they're talking about [2:28:48] having programs for their kids [2:28:49] and we start talking about a [2:28:49] very cool policy that we [2:28:50] passed. [2:28:51] They look at us like we're on a [2:28:51] different planet and that's [2:28:54] because we kind of are They [2:28:55] care about what's happening in [2:29:00] their communities not about [2:29:00] the people that we're pushing [2:29:06] around on the dais So there's a [2:29:07] policy part of this [2:29:07] conversation. [2:29:08] There's an operations part of [2:29:11] this conversation. [2:29:12] We're not going to change [2:29:13] the policy here on the fly [2:29:18] the quickest lever to pull is [2:29:19] on the operation side. [2:29:20] And I guess what I'm trying to [2:29:24] understand is hearing [2:29:25] Councilmember Moreno's [2:29:25] frustration with knowing that [2:29:28] there's on sitting in an [2:29:35] account and that being [2:29:35] the reason for the lack of [2:29:36] investment or at least part of [2:29:41] the reason for the lack of [2:29:42] investment it would come via [2:29:42] the opportunity fund Most [2:29:46] important thing to do in this [2:29:47] moment it would seem is to get [2:29:48] the money out in a way that [2:29:52] provides the intended benefit [2:29:53] to the community. [2:29:54] So I I'm trying to be careful [2:29:58] here because it's it's District [2:29:58] eight that we're talking about [2:29:59] that is the primary impact of [2:30:00] community. [2:30:02] But again we've had moments [2:30:09] where in District nine similar [2:30:10] situation that is incredibly [2:30:10] frustrating So I don't know if [2:30:15] you have thoughts on how to [2:30:16] speak to the immediate [2:30:16] frustration that I'm hearing [2:30:21] which is getting the money out [2:30:26] the door so that the community [2:30:27] can feel that benefit. [2:30:27] Yeah let's get the dollars out [2:30:28] the door. [2:30:28] Councilmember And so I think [2:30:33] the task for Parks and Rec is [2:30:34] to figure out what our work [2:30:35] plan is to get these dollars [2:30:35] out quickly so we don't end up [2:30:40] in the same situation next year [2:30:41] where you don't get [2:30:41] the opportunity funds because [2:30:42] you have too much fund balance. [2:30:43] So it looks great on paper that [2:30:46] you're walking it out by 28 [2:30:46] next year with a high fund [2:30:47] balance. [2:30:47] But what does that actually [2:30:48] mean for your residents? [2:30:51] And so I think the task for [2:30:52] Parks and Rec maybe prior to [2:30:53] the start of the fiscal year is [2:30:53] what the financing and work [2:30:57] plan is for each of the rec [2:30:57] centers. [2:30:58] I think you have 7 or 8 in your [2:30:59] in your district on how to [2:31:03] spend those dollars down and [2:31:04] what the programing and [2:31:04] activities look like for so you [2:31:05] can communicate them out to [2:31:10] your residents a pen to paper [2:31:11] get the dollars out the door. [2:31:12] I want to say one more question [2:31:12] on that. [2:31:12] Right. [2:31:15] There's a communication piece [2:31:16] of this as well Whether it's [2:31:21] whatever district is is is [2:31:21] benefiting from opportunity [2:31:26] fund resources If if they're [2:31:27] not getting out for one reason [2:31:28] or another, we need to know [2:31:33] that because it allows us [2:31:33] the opportunity to work with [2:31:38] you to say well here are a [2:31:39] whole I would I would imagine [2:31:40] that if you asked any of us on [2:31:44] the dais ways to get dollars [2:31:45] out the door for opportunity [2:31:50] fund eligible expenses we could [2:31:51] come up with a long list very [2:31:51] quickly to long list pretty [2:31:56] quickly but we can't do that if [2:31:57] we don't know that that's that [2:31:57] that's happening. [2:31:58] And so that communication piece [2:32:02] is just incredibly important. [2:32:07] So I will ask it in the future [2:32:08] if this issue is arising much [2:32:09] sooner rather than later [2:32:16] because the last thing it [2:32:16] should be doing is impacting [2:32:17] scoring in the next year [2:32:18] because to to remembering this [2:32:20] point that does start it like [2:32:21] pushes an inequitable domino [2:32:26] forward and are producing [2:32:27] inequitable results in [2:32:27] the ground for a program that [2:32:28] was designed to do the exact [2:32:32] opposite Thank you counsel [2:32:33] PRESIDENT All right. [2:32:33] >> Thank you, sir. [2:32:34] We'll go back to Councilmember [2:32:35] Moreno Thank you. [2:32:38] I would ask staff to go back [2:32:39] with this opportunity fund and [2:32:44] find a more equitable way to [2:32:45] disburse the funding. [2:32:45] That is a request I'm making [2:32:46] and it was brought to my [2:32:49] attention as we were doing [2:32:50] the proclamations by the Cooper [2:32:50] family that staff at Memorial [2:32:56] is not allowing them to hook up [2:32:57] to water and or and electricity [2:33:03] for a free bubble machine. [2:33:03] We have $1.2 million sitting in [2:33:09] dea coffers that just it's just [2:33:10] the math is not happening And [2:33:14] so that would be my request is [2:33:15] I think we have one more what [2:33:15] next week's meeting and that [2:33:20] this be brought back and that [2:33:21] the committee find a way their [2:33:21] city staff right and they work [2:33:26] for you we could politely ask [2:33:27] them to come together and find [2:33:27] a more equitable way to [2:33:28] disperse to opportunity funds. [2:33:33] Thank you. [2:33:34] Thank you Council member I'll [2:33:35] go back now Go to Councilmember [2:33:38] Foster. [2:33:38] >> Yes, thank you. [2:33:39] I'm council PRESIDENT And I do [2:33:43] appreciate my colleagues [2:33:44] comments and concerns but I [2:33:50] also do understand fund balance [2:33:50] and continuing to to receive [2:33:56] funds where we are not [2:33:57] deploying state funds. [2:34:02] And so I think what would [2:34:02] really be I think the main [2:34:08] cause of the heartburn is why [2:34:08] are we not expending funds and [2:34:14] having an acceptable response [2:34:14] to that Because the purpose of [2:34:15] establishing this opportunity [2:34:16] fund was to make sure [2:34:21] communities were able to [2:34:21] program and have the resources [2:34:26] and utilize the facilities for [2:34:27] their needs. [2:34:27] >> And so I think number one, [2:34:28] we need to make sure that we [2:34:32] answer that question What is [2:34:33] the plan moving forward? [2:34:33] How are we going to expend [2:34:34] those funds and how we are [2:34:38] going to have the appropriate [2:34:39] timeline associated with that? [2:34:44] And I think that's really at [2:34:45] the heart of what she is [2:34:45] indicating because if we're [2:34:50] just want to leave fund value, [2:34:51] if we're just going to leave on [2:34:52] balances, no one will get [2:34:56] the benefit of and the intent [2:34:57] of what the opportunity fund [2:34:57] is. [2:34:58] So I think I would request that [2:35:02] as we move forward and just [2:35:03] even as we appreciate what [2:35:04] comes back or potentially what [2:35:04] could come back, I think we [2:35:08] need to put this in as part of [2:35:09] our budget monitoring process [2:35:10] and highlight this specifically [2:35:14] because even with District four [2:35:15] we have a big uncertainty on [2:35:15] hud funding. [2:35:20] Right to say hey, we don't even [2:35:20] know if we MAY get it. [2:35:21] It MAY get both x, y and z. [2:35:22] So I think this uncertainty and [2:35:25] again I'll go back to [2:35:26] the federal level that is [2:35:27] creating a lot of the concern [2:35:31] and issues that we are falling [2:35:31] into. [2:35:32] And so I think if we can put [2:35:33] this into our monitoring [2:35:34] process and highlight this to [2:35:38] make sure that we are truly [2:35:38] meeting the intent that we can. [2:35:39] I would also ask the ipa, I [2:35:43] think the ipa should kind of [2:35:44] use the if we can utilize [2:35:44] the Department of Race and [2:35:49] Equity to further dive into [2:35:50] this to look at the concerns [2:35:50] that were brought up in regards [2:35:56] to panel of this elections. [2:35:57] What's on the table is we are [2:36:01] looking at in having these [2:36:02] discussions and looking to [2:36:02] allocate the dollars [2:36:08] accordingly I think accordingly [2:36:09] I think if we can utilize [2:36:09] the office of the idea as well [2:36:10] to be a part of this and to [2:36:13] work with city staff, I think [2:36:14] we will hopefully see some [2:36:15] progress and be in a position [2:36:19] to move things forward. [2:36:20] My concern of course would be [2:36:25] just as my colleagues concern [2:36:25] is we have the dollars [2:36:26] allocated. [2:36:26] We went through our budget [2:36:27] discussions but making sure [2:36:31] that we get these dollars [2:36:31] allocated and deployed without [2:36:37] any further delay as a whole. [2:36:38] So I think that's my my desire. [2:36:44] I don't mind, you know, if we [2:36:44] are going to bring this back [2:36:45] next week. [2:36:49] Council PRESIDENT I think that [2:36:50] would be your call is you do [2:36:50] run the docket but I think [2:36:56] the main question that needs to [2:36:56] be answered is how are you [2:36:57] going to deploy the fund [2:36:58] balance that has been sitting [2:37:01] in I don't know almost always [2:37:02] been sitting for Right. [2:37:03] Which I which I would agree [2:37:08] That is very, very difficult to [2:37:09] take if we are not moving those [2:37:10] funds and if there are issues [2:37:13] just even conveying conveying [2:37:20] the issues to to the offices so [2:37:20] that folks are informed they [2:37:21] can try to help find a [2:37:26] resolution and know how to [2:37:26] communicate with constituents. [2:37:27] Right. [2:37:27] Those are great. [2:37:32] Why is it why is it [2:37:33] the councilmembers obligation [2:37:34] to go out and explain to [2:37:34] constituents which she she has [2:37:37] no sign authority on the fund [2:37:38] balance? [2:37:38] She truly hasn't She can't put [2:37:39] a contract in place. [2:37:40] You can't there's so much that [2:37:43] she cannot do but yet she needs [2:37:44] to go out and explain to her [2:37:45] constituents why this has been [2:37:48] sitting for two years or [2:37:49] whatever that case MAY be. [2:37:50] So I just think one of those [2:37:53] things we need to clean up [2:37:54] operations and make sure we are [2:37:55] moving forward in meeting [2:37:55] the intent of what [2:38:01] the opportunity fund is. [2:38:07] Charles, do you want to jump in [2:38:08] before I go to to Councilmember [2:38:13] Foster's question Correct me if [2:38:14] I'm wrong the opportunity fine [2:38:18] If a zero sum then there is x [2:38:19] number of dollars and going to [2:38:20] figure out how to allocate [2:38:20] them. [2:38:21] So for District eight to get [2:38:24] more funding district 49 will [2:38:25] have to give up some. [2:38:26] So if there is going to be a [2:38:30] motion to ask for a [2:38:31] reallocation I want that from [2:38:32] the council members. [2:38:32] I want equity. [2:38:38] I want equity and opportunity [2:38:38] funds of 2027. [2:38:39] That's what I'm asking. [2:38:39] i'm just I figure how we get [2:38:40] there. [2:38:42] So District 49 would have to [2:38:43] give up some money to get a [2:38:46] bigger allocation for District [2:38:47] eight So to bring it back for [2:38:53] that purpose I would need to [2:38:53] hear from the two of you [2:38:54] because you're the two that are [2:38:55] going to be affected by that [2:38:59] and I hate to have that [2:38:59] question. [2:39:00] It is a zero fund so that's how [2:39:01] you have to puzzle it out And [2:39:04] I'm sorry Council PRESIDENT But [2:39:10] if I MAY that that sounds like [2:39:10] Hunger Games. [2:39:11] That sounds like you're putting [2:39:16] us in a position to have a [2:39:22] conversation amongst ourselves [2:39:23] where I'll simply put I don't [2:39:23] have a fund balance that is [2:39:28] that significant. [2:39:29] And so I think city staff needs [2:39:34] to come back and determine how [2:39:35] they are going to be more [2:39:35] efficient and resolve [2:39:39] the outstanding outstanding [2:39:40] issues and to to take care of [2:39:45] expanding the dollars. [2:39:46] I don't I'm not in a position [2:39:51] to say hey, I'm going to give [2:39:52] something up where I didn't [2:39:53] create the situation And [2:39:57] clearly there's dollars that [2:39:58] need to be deployed Sounds like [2:40:03] an operational concern. [2:40:04] Our acknowledge it was an awful [2:40:10] thing for me to ask but I'm [2:40:11] thinking about what can be done [2:40:12] in a week or two and if I might [2:40:16] be there's some larger [2:40:17] questions that I'll speak to [2:40:17] and perhaps the pro tem will [2:40:22] speak to but you to know we [2:40:23] need this done by JULY 1st for [2:40:23] the start of the new fiscal [2:40:28] year We can target maybe JUNE [2:40:28] 20th 9th or JUNE 30th by us a [2:40:29] little bit more time to meet [2:40:30] both the councilmembers [2:40:30] concerns and an understanding [2:40:34] that yes it is zero sum And so [2:40:35] I think spending more time with [2:40:39] the other officers that MAY be [2:40:40] impacted but trying to maybe [2:40:41] buy us another week to put [2:40:41] together a more holistic [2:40:42] package. [2:40:46] So hopefully talking to the end [2:40:47] of the month rather than next [2:40:48] week I think is a better path [2:40:48] if possible. [2:40:48] Okay. [2:40:52] I think what we saw in [2:40:53] the budget my apologies for [2:40:54] the program but some of [2:40:57] the creative thinking in terms [2:40:57] of legal interpretations about [2:40:58] funding where we can get [2:40:59] funding that MAY make [2:41:03] the conversation a little bit [2:41:04] easier. [2:41:05] I do not know if there is any [2:41:05] opportunity there but for [2:41:10] everybody But are thinking cap [2:41:11] thought and look things a [2:41:12] little bit differently I'll [2:41:12] have more comments but let me [2:41:16] go to council PRESIDENT Pro Tem [2:41:16] Lee Thank you for your [2:41:17] patience. [2:41:17] >> Thank you PRESIDENT I [2:41:22] actually I thank you customer [2:41:23] Marina for bringing this topic [2:41:23] off of consent to have this [2:41:24] discussion because I think it's [2:41:27] easy for us to see these come [2:41:27] and go each year without [2:41:28] actually looking into [2:41:34] the specifics and Councilmember [2:41:35] Foster's point I understand [2:41:35] that I think one gets this a [2:41:36] zero sum game So at the end of [2:41:39] day there's only a limited [2:41:39] number of funds that are [2:41:40] allocated into opportunity [2:41:40] funds. [2:41:44] But I think the feedback that's [2:41:45] coming back isn't who needs to [2:41:46] give up what it's that the if [2:41:51] the calculations based off of [2:41:52] something that's off to begin [2:41:52] with then the problem is only [2:41:53] what it is because it's now [2:41:58] been identified or if it was [2:41:58] calculated differently no one [2:41:59] would be losing money just [2:41:59] would it be calculated [2:42:03] differently And I think that's [2:42:04] all that's all I think [2:42:04] the discussion needs to be at [2:42:07] this point is is some kind of [2:42:08] understanding that fund [2:42:09] balances just because they've [2:42:09] been sitting there unspent [2:42:14] should account against [2:42:15] the community If there's a [2:42:15] reason why those funds should [2:42:20] be spent and I don't know what [2:42:20] the solution to that is, I will [2:42:21] note that when you look at when [2:42:25] you look at the rec center [2:42:26] funds across the chart and you [2:42:27] look at the ones based on [2:42:27] the lowest amount of revenue [2:42:31] that's collected from [2:42:32] recreation programing that sort [2:42:32] of matches up pretty heavily [2:42:37] with the list of rec centers [2:42:38] that receive Rec Center [2:42:38] Opportunity Fund funding as [2:42:42] well. [2:42:42] There's got to be some way to [2:42:43] correlate that and not just [2:42:48] base it off of balances if that [2:42:49] would make some sense. [2:42:50] Another thing I would note is [2:42:53] that this is an interesting [2:42:54] conversation because I think in [2:42:55] each of our communities [2:42:56] especially in parks surrounding [2:42:59] rec centers, some of the older [2:42:59] ones often have playground [2:43:00] equipment and other things that [2:43:04] are falling apart and we're [2:43:05] often scrounging for a couple [2:43:06] thousand dollars here or there [2:43:10] to fix a couple of things And [2:43:11] then yes, it is very difficult [2:43:11] to go look at a chart like this [2:43:15] and find that there's tens of [2:43:16] thousands if not hundreds of [2:43:17] thousands of dollars sitting in [2:43:21] a fund that isn't utilized [2:43:22] the spark an entire memory of [2:43:22] mine I was at the literally [2:43:26] closing day in Mesa where they [2:43:27] literally have the city's get [2:43:32] it done link on a qr code at [2:43:32] their snack shop to remind [2:43:33] every person buying something [2:43:37] to report that a set of shell [2:43:38] states shades have been out of [2:43:39] commission for the better part [2:43:42] of the entire season and they [2:43:43] get everyone to submit requests [2:43:44] thinking that's going to be [2:43:47] taken care of And those are [2:43:48] the kinds of things where I [2:43:49] think we're usually trying to [2:43:52] find funding elsewhere to [2:43:52] resolve. [2:43:53] So for me beyond this [2:43:58] discussion I think there's an [2:43:58] opportunity to think about how [2:43:59] we approach this in the next [2:43:59] year. [2:44:00] I also would really benefit [2:44:03] from understanding how [2:44:04] the actual budgets are [2:44:04] determined per rec center fund [2:44:05] and how those budgets are being [2:44:09] allocated because they're very [2:44:09] different. [2:44:10] There are some that have a huge [2:44:11] amount in terms of programing [2:44:14] funds that exceed [2:44:15] the programing revenue that's [2:44:15] being received And so this year [2:44:19] we're actually spending down [2:44:20] balances across the entire city [2:44:21] by a couple million dollars But [2:44:21] I don't imagine that's [2:44:25] sustainable And so I'm trying [2:44:26] to understand what does that [2:44:26] mean in a year or two when [2:44:30] those balances aren't going to [2:44:30] support that level of spending? [2:44:31] Are we heavily subsidizing [2:44:32] recreational programs at [2:44:36] the moment And we're going to [2:44:36] find ourselves in a tough spot [2:44:37] in two years. [2:44:38] That's something that stuck out [2:44:38] to me. [2:44:41] There are some rec center funds [2:44:42] that have a huge amount being [2:44:43] allocated towards maintenance [2:44:46] and others had a very little [2:44:47] and again so and some that have [2:44:48] a huge amount for contingency [2:44:51] or other expenses I think those [2:44:52] kinds of details actually would [2:44:56] help us in individual rec [2:44:57] centers because again we get [2:44:57] these requests from community [2:44:58] members and sometimes for [2:45:01] simple little things And I [2:45:02] think we need to be able to [2:45:03] understand where to point them [2:45:03] towards in terms of [2:45:07] opportunities to get things [2:45:07] fixed in the city. [2:45:08] We've all talked about how [2:45:13] wonderful it is to build new [2:45:13] parks and playgrounds and [2:45:14] whatnot but there's a lot in [2:45:15] the city and a lot in each of [2:45:17] our districts that is in [2:45:18] disrepair that needs to be [2:45:19] taken care of and that we're [2:45:22] seeing funding sitting around [2:45:22] does certainly hurt. [2:45:23] So that was my $0.02. [2:45:23] Thank you. [2:45:27] Council PRESIDENT. [2:45:27] All right. [2:45:28] Thank you. [2:45:28] We'll go back to Councilmember [2:45:29] Eli Rivera. [2:45:29] All right. [2:45:29] Thank you. [2:45:32] Council PRESIDENT. [2:45:33] So one of the things that we [2:45:37] did during this past this I [2:45:38] guess current fiscal year that [2:45:38] was meant to grow the Pie for [2:45:41] Opportunity Fund was require [2:45:42] that the lease holders of [2:45:47] the polo fields pay $100,000 to [2:45:47] be used specifically for [2:45:52] opportunity funds that as I [2:45:53] understand it is not included [2:45:53] in the allocations for this [2:45:54] year that payments supposed to [2:45:56] come in JANUARY? [2:45:57] That's correct. [2:45:57] Is there a reason why we [2:46:02] wouldn't be able to apply and [2:46:02] I'll look to the aba on this [2:46:03] don't want to be responsible [2:46:05] here but if we know we're [2:46:06] getting $100,000 in JANUARY why [2:46:10] we wouldn't be able to bank on [2:46:11] that and use that so that we're [2:46:15] not battling each other for rec [2:46:15] centers. [2:46:20] I mean I'm thinking Stockton [2:46:20] Rec Center is the one that [2:46:22] comes to mind for me and that [2:46:23] one is really benefited from [2:46:27] this Senior Services Financial [2:46:33] literacy Zouma classes, youth [2:46:33] programing And this is in a [2:46:37] community that that rec center [2:46:42] was starved for resources to [2:46:43] the point of of you know like [2:46:43] really kind of like barely [2:46:46] having a pulse. [2:46:47] Opportunity Fund has revived [2:46:51] the rec center and [2:46:52] the community is it is one of [2:46:56] the few places where they can [2:46:57] be where they can feel safe and [2:47:02] and enriched their they've gone [2:47:02] on hikes together. [2:47:06] It's a beautiful, beautiful [2:47:07] thing. [2:47:07] And the idea that we're going [2:47:10] to be pulling funds from one [2:47:11] program that does something [2:47:12] like that to ensure that other [2:47:16] kids in this city have access [2:47:16] to the resources they should [2:47:17] have. [2:47:17] If there's any way to avoid [2:47:20] that, I'd like to do that [2:47:20] especially if we know that [2:47:21] there's money coming in during [2:47:25] the next fiscal year. [2:47:25] Yeah. [2:47:26] In response to your question, [2:47:26] Councilmember in general, if [2:47:27] there's a reasonable [2:47:30] expectation that dollars will [2:47:31] be coming in the door it is [2:47:31] fine and appropriate to budget [2:47:35] those as you are preparing your [2:47:36] final budget which you already [2:47:37] have which is essentially [2:47:40] allocated dollars towards that [2:47:44] MAY or MAY not kind of allow [2:47:45] for cash flow needs but those [2:47:46] would be a specific kind of [2:47:49] departmental questions on when [2:47:50] dollars would be out the door. [2:47:50] And as I understand it, [2:47:51] the issue with the doors are [2:47:52] not going out the door fast [2:47:53] enough right now. [2:47:58] So I would want any specific [2:47:59] allocation to be informed by [2:48:00] the department and the council [2:48:01] officers expectation of what [2:48:01] the needs are. [2:48:04] But if you have a reasonable [2:48:05] expectation that dollars will [2:48:08] be coming in allocating to them [2:48:08] at this point makes sense. [2:48:09] >> Yeah. [2:48:10] So I guess what I what I would [2:48:13] say is this because I think [2:48:14] this is where Councilperson [2:48:15] Pro-Tem was going what would [2:48:15] the math look like? [2:48:17] What was the scoring look like [2:48:17] if the dollars had gone out [2:48:18] the door? [2:48:19] Like I think we all agree that [2:48:22] they should And then once we've [2:48:23] answered that question or [2:48:27] either way if there's resources [2:48:32] that we know are dependable I [2:48:33] was really glad when that [2:48:37] happened. [2:48:38] That was I think a really good [2:48:38] example of again of leaning [2:48:41] into the things that San Diego [2:48:42] takes a lot of pride in but [2:48:45] don't necessarily isn't [2:48:46] necessarily benefit everyone [2:48:47] across the city and making it [2:48:50] work for the folks who often [2:48:56] are left behind so if that's if [2:48:57] we can figure out problem one [2:48:57] first which is how are these [2:48:58] dollars going to go out [2:49:00] the door, then we can then make [2:49:06] sure that with the any reassess [2:49:06] amount of scoring that would be [2:49:07] taken those dollars being out [2:49:10] the door that there's resources [2:49:11] there to support it so that you [2:49:14] know districts that have [2:49:15] objectively been funded in an [2:49:20] equitable way in the in [2:49:21] the past don't again end up in [2:49:24] a situation where we're [2:49:25] battling each other for those [2:49:25] funds. [2:49:25] Thank you. [2:49:26] That is great point that we do [2:49:29] have that funding coming in [2:49:29] JANUARY. [2:49:30] I will caution each year we [2:49:34] budget the opportunity fund [2:49:34] based on the dollars we've [2:49:38] collected in the year prior. [2:49:42] And so if we utilize [2:49:43] the $100,000 in fy 27 that will [2:49:46] be the 100,000 less will have [2:49:47] for fy 28. [2:49:51] Granted we haven't utilized [2:49:52] that funding yet but I just [2:49:52] want to make sure that that [2:49:53] that's clear But we could [2:49:57] certainly look to utilize an [2:49:57] all or part of that funding as [2:50:02] part of reanalyzing the fy 27 [2:50:03] Opportunity Fund allocation And [2:50:07] I do want to state that as Andy [2:50:07] mentioned earlier with [2:50:08] the merge of the Community [2:50:08] Parks two division and [2:50:10] the Citywide Recreation [2:50:11] Services Division there'll be [2:50:12] more oversight and connectivity [2:50:16] as an awareness of what's going [2:50:17] on across both of those [2:50:20] divisions now that they'll [2:50:20] become one and there will be [2:50:21] more oversight in [2:50:21] the expenditure of [2:50:24] the recreation center funds. [2:50:25] I will add that in the spring [2:50:26] of this past year we [2:50:30] established a team that is [2:50:31] working directly with each of [2:50:31] the center directors across [2:50:34] the department for this exact [2:50:35] reason as to ensure that they [2:50:36] are looking at their budgets, [2:50:39] their spending, their budgets, [2:50:39] their expanding, their [2:50:40] programing based on community [2:50:41] feedback And this was also in [2:50:44] anticipation of the community [2:50:45] recreation needs assessment [2:50:46] that we will be receiving this [2:50:46] summer. [2:50:49] We want to be as prepared as we [2:50:49] can be to ensure that our very [2:50:50] green recreation center [2:50:54] directors are ready to launch [2:50:55] programing based on what that [2:50:55] community feedback was. [2:50:58] And so you do have my [2:50:59] commitment that we will be [2:51:00] monitoring closely expenditures [2:51:03] of these funds so that they are [2:51:04] going to the purpose that [2:51:05] they're intended to serve and [2:51:08] that is programing for [2:51:08] the community. [2:51:09] >> Thank you. [2:51:10] So maybe maybe we need a motion [2:51:13] right before we do and take a [2:51:15] two minute pause maybe. [2:51:39] Yeah. [2:51:40] I like to avoid surprising [2:51:44] people Give it a go. [2:51:45] Councilmember Eli Rivera Oh [2:51:46] right. [2:51:52] So I'm to do my best here on [2:51:53] the fly. [2:51:57] >> Um, brace yourselves Now we [2:52:02] can't just return this to staff [2:52:02] ,but I want to be specific [2:52:03] about what we're asking for to [2:52:04] come back. [2:52:06] I think that's the part because [2:52:07] it needs to come back. [2:52:08] I think the thing that we want [2:52:12] is a plan for how fund balances [2:52:17] will be spent If a an [2:52:24] assessment of the scoring if [2:52:24] the fund balances were to have [2:52:29] been spent down in the way that [2:52:29] we agree they should have been [2:52:34] And then I, I think we should [2:52:35] be tapping into those polo [2:52:35] fields funds. [2:52:39] I understand that it's [2:52:39] different than the way that [2:52:40] the other funds have flowed [2:52:44] into into the opportunity fund [2:52:48] But we're we're far from we're [2:52:49] far from overflowing [2:52:49] the coffers of of of our rec [2:52:53] centers. [2:52:54] So I think if we have those [2:52:55] things in place when the item [2:52:58] comes back we'll be in a place [2:52:59] where we can get to [2:53:00] the resolution that I think we [2:53:03] all want. [2:53:04] Does that work as a motion for [2:53:04] you Council PRESIDENT So I [2:53:08] think that's direction to [2:53:08] the staff and my suggestion is [2:53:09] we just returned this to staff [2:53:13] and re docket it probably on [2:53:13] JUNE 29th. [2:53:14] I want to make sure that [2:53:17] Councilmember Moreno could [2:53:18] attend that But you have [2:53:19] sufficient direction others MAY [2:53:23] have others But again there's a [2:53:23] two week window to actually get [2:53:24] something that can be approved [2:53:28] and maybe not totally fixed [2:53:28] because I think there's a [2:53:29] larger conversation I'll have [2:53:32] some additional facts as well [2:53:33] But I think you have enough [2:53:34] direction of what and [2:53:37] COUNCILMAN Moran, I see kind of [2:53:38] nodding your head as well. [2:53:41] >> All right. [2:53:42] >> So we're not actually having [2:53:43] a motion on the table. [2:53:43] We'll just return it to staff. [2:53:47] Can I get a verbal commitment [2:53:47] and that Yes, Councilmember, [2:53:48] you have our commitment. [2:53:48] Okay. [2:53:51] And then Charles, do you do win [2:53:52] Is there anything else that [2:53:56] would accompany the use of [2:53:57] those funds that would need to [2:54:01] be docketed adjacent to this [2:54:01] item in order to pull [2:54:02] the levers necessary to make [2:54:06] that possible? [2:54:07] I don't believe so at this [2:54:08] time, Councilmember If there is [2:54:11] I'll certainly work with [2:54:11] the administration and staff to [2:54:12] make sure know I'm looking for [2:54:13] problem to make sure it ends up [2:54:15] being docketed. [2:54:16] Thank you. [2:54:16] Against PRESIDENT. [2:54:17] All right. [2:54:17] Thank you. [2:54:18] So we'll go to council member [2:54:20] whitburn Thank you. [2:54:20] Council PRESIDENT Certainly [2:54:21] happy to go in this direction. [2:54:25] However, districts 894 want to [2:54:25] handle it. [2:54:29] I would say you know [2:54:30] understanding that there's a [2:54:30] broader concern around getting [2:54:34] the expenditure is out the door [2:54:35] and perhaps taking a look at [2:54:39] how things are scored If we do [2:54:40] run into a challenge getting [2:54:44] something across the finish [2:54:44] line I don't see the District [2:54:49] eight is going to go through a [2:54:49] you know, a billion plus [2:54:58] dollars right away But more [2:54:59] power to you if you do. [2:55:00] But getting getting to my point [2:55:03] I would I would be supportive [2:55:03] somewhere along the way of just [2:55:04] allocating $100,000 in general [2:55:08] fund to make up the gap from [2:55:09] what you otherwise would have [2:55:16] been allocated had what's that [2:55:16] ? [2:55:17] >> Okay. [2:55:17] Well all right. [2:55:18] So maybe there's a whole nother [2:55:18] issue there But I mean we [2:55:21] could, you know, do some [2:55:22] allocation for the general fund [2:55:26] to make up equity gap there if [2:55:27] we ready to but at least I [2:55:28] would be supportive of that So [2:55:28] yeah. [2:55:31] All right Thank you Council My [2:55:32] term will go back to council [2:55:32] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee They get [2:55:36] to follow up questions just ask [2:55:36] one is that the final budget [2:55:37] action that the council took [2:55:38] there were restorations of [2:55:41] course to a number of rec [2:55:41] centers. [2:55:44] Is that did that impact [2:55:45] the budgets that ultimately are [2:55:49] seen here Presumably the 20 [2:55:50] hours in addition that number [2:55:51] of rec centers would adjust [2:55:54] the programing availability and [2:55:54] expectations for revenue and [2:55:55] expenditures? [2:55:58] I just don't know to [2:55:59] the positive or to [2:55:59] the negative. [2:56:00] Yes, Thank you for [2:56:00] the question. [2:56:03] We do have some of the sites [2:56:04] that are receiving reduced [2:56:05] hours that we are currently [2:56:08] working with our department [2:56:08] director on how we can [2:56:09] potentially utilize these funds [2:56:13] if if at all within Proposition [2:56:14] 26 to support the operations of [2:56:14] those locations. [2:56:18] But oh yeah I don't mean that [2:56:18] in particular. [2:56:22] I know that idea was brought up [2:56:23] and I for 1 A.M. Not a huge fan [2:56:24] of use utilizing the existing [2:56:27] funding. [2:56:28] i mean some rec centers across [2:56:28] the city don't have fund [2:56:33] balances to utilize for ours. [2:56:33] Others might be utilized for [2:56:34] programing in other ways etc. [2:56:37] So I yeah I, I don't think that [2:56:38] was the goal but in the final [2:56:41] budget we did restore hours at [2:56:42] a number of rec centers and so [2:56:43] I assume that changes [2:56:46] the budget assumptions because [2:56:47] these were put together prior [2:56:47] to the final budget being [2:56:51] adopted. [2:56:51] And so I think that's [2:56:52] the question is how does that [2:56:56] change some of these numbers at [2:56:57] the end of the day given that [2:56:58] they're already a little bit [2:56:58] out of date I assume because we [2:57:01] already adjusted the hours at I [2:57:02] believe it was like nine rec [2:57:05] center across the city? [2:57:06] Yeah. [2:57:06] If they're sites with reduced [2:57:07] hours they won't be generating [2:57:10] the revenue If they don't have [2:57:10] the additional programing [2:57:11] taking place because of [2:57:11] the reduced hours which means [2:57:12] they won't have those [2:57:15] expenditures going out [2:57:15] associated with those programs. [2:57:16] Right. [2:57:16] So were these with these [2:57:17] budgets built off of [2:57:20] the proposed budget with [2:57:20] reduced hours? [2:57:20] No. [2:57:21] These budgets were built prior [2:57:24] to the general fund budget [2:57:25] season and Council PRESIDENT [2:57:29] Pro Tem if I MAY jump in just [2:57:30] real quick when it comes to [2:57:31] the Recreation Center fund and [2:57:35] the opportunity Fund, a great [2:57:35] deal of that money is derived [2:57:36] from permit revenue permit [2:57:39] revenue is primarily sourced [2:57:39] from the rental of rooms and [2:57:40] from the rental of fields And [2:57:44] honestly most of the permit [2:57:44] revenue that we see is focused [2:57:49] on the field rentals and so as [2:57:49] the field rentals are not [2:57:50] affected by recreation center [2:57:54] hours of operation we do [2:57:55] anticipate that the recreation [2:57:55] centers will still be excuse me [2:57:58] the fields will be able to [2:57:59] generate enough revenue to be [2:58:00] able to keep what we think is [2:58:00] going to occur and [2:58:03] the opportunity fund within [2:58:04] the same general range that [2:58:05] it's been over the last several [2:58:08] years. [2:58:09] If we had closures of fields [2:58:09] and things like that and I [2:58:13] think we would see a bigger [2:58:13] challenge in front of us with [2:58:14] respect to the generation [2:58:18] potential of permit revenue. [2:58:19] Thanks. [2:58:19] Got it. [2:58:19] Thank you. [2:58:20] Any and then I assume that [2:58:22] means what little revenue was [2:58:23] being generated by room rentals [2:58:24] that was definitely impacted by [2:58:28] closure. [2:58:29] Was that that final impact [2:58:29] scenario not assumed here? [2:58:32] Okay. [2:58:33] And then my last question is [2:58:34] around special event budgets. [2:58:36] Each of these rec centers have [2:58:37] special events funding [2:58:37] budgeted. [2:58:38] Is that largely to support [2:58:42] events at the rec center itself [2:58:42] is putting on or are they ones [2:58:43] that they are doing at times in [2:58:46] partnership with the community [2:58:47] ? [2:58:48] And I mentioned this and if you [2:58:48] remember at Stanley Rec Center [2:58:50] we had a discussion two years [2:58:51] ago about a an annual OCTOBER [2:58:55] Fest event held as a support [2:58:56] for local schools that [2:58:56] ultimately that was being [2:58:57] supported as a sponsored event [2:59:01] through the rec center for a [2:59:01] number of years and then [2:59:02] suddenly was not and they [2:59:03] canceled because permit fees [2:59:04] suddenly went through the roof. [2:59:05] That's that's where I'm looking [2:59:09] to understand how special event [2:59:10] budgets fill in the gap there [2:59:10] as well. [2:59:11] Don't have to answer all that [2:59:14] now but I just want to flag it [2:59:15] as something that we might [2:59:16] follow but certainly be happy [2:59:16] to have a follow up discussion [2:59:17] with you on that. [2:59:19] Thank you. [2:59:20] >> All right. [2:59:21] I don't see anybody else in [2:59:22] lights so I'll be brief in my [2:59:28] comments. [2:59:29] This is the kind of stuff I [2:59:29] love a tiny red flag that opens [2:59:32] up a conversation that [2:59:33] everybody thinks it's just kind [2:59:34] of a routine business And we do [2:59:34] this every year so let's just [2:59:37] pass it every year. [2:59:37] I do want to thank the two of [2:59:38] you. [2:59:39] I want to thank Andy for [2:59:42] jumping in And as a quick [2:59:43] reminder, Opportunity Fund is [2:59:46] just a few years old. [2:59:47] It was built from scratch. [2:59:51] I think some of the things that [2:59:52] were discussed today at least [2:59:56] to me shows that maybe it's [2:59:56] time to relook at [2:59:57] the opportunity Fund. [3:00:01] I took a quick glance at [3:00:02] the policy and it's pretty [3:00:03] broad in its scope when it as I [3:00:07] compare it to 800 dash 14 four [3:00:08] see ip that's incredibly [3:00:10] detailed with what the matrix [3:00:11] is and what the priorities are [3:00:15] And I imagine for my colleagues [3:00:16] that when they look at what [3:00:20] the budget is they don't [3:00:21] actually know where that money [3:00:21] is being spent, not that it [3:00:22] hasn't been allocated or [3:00:25] budgeted correctly or [3:00:26] appropriately but I think it [3:00:27] leaves a lot of questions and [3:00:30] questions lead to more [3:00:30] questions and concerns going [3:00:31] forward. [3:00:31] So the department might want to [3:00:35] think about how to communicate [3:00:35] better of if for a recreation [3:00:39] center this is what the funding [3:00:40] is, what that funding is being [3:00:41] spent on because I suspect [3:00:41] somewhere in a deeper [3:00:45] spreadsheet that information is [3:00:45] actually sitting there whether [3:00:46] it's programing or a capital [3:00:49] improvement or a maintenance [3:00:50] ongoing maintenance And that [3:00:54] might answer a lot of questions [3:00:54] in advance of an item like this [3:00:55] coming forward. [3:00:59] But I do want to recognize that [3:01:00] this is something new that we [3:01:00] tried. [3:01:01] It was a problem. [3:01:05] We recognized everybody in Lima [3:01:06] And to create this program, can [3:01:06] the Opportunity Fund be [3:01:09] expanded as or more dollars [3:01:09] that can be shifted from [3:01:10] recreation centers and higher [3:01:15] opportunity areas are things [3:01:16] that I think we ought to be [3:01:16] looking at in the year ahead, [3:01:19] not in the next two weeks but [3:01:20] going forward. [3:01:25] So with that as a reminder this [3:01:25] is being returned to staff. [3:01:26] I anticipate that will docket [3:01:29] this on Monday, JUNE 29th to [3:01:34] hear the feedback from [3:01:35] the department that was offered [3:01:36] by Councilmember Moreno, [3:01:39] Councilmember Eli Rivera and I [3:01:40] think the other council members [3:01:44] as well so that we can meet our [3:01:45] budgetary deadlines and get [3:01:45] this docketed. [3:01:48] So JULY 1st everybody knows [3:01:48] what kind of funding they have [3:01:49] available So you have a little [3:01:52] bit of work ahead of you. [3:01:53] Thank you very much for your [3:01:54] ongoing effort and thank you [3:01:57] Kota for helping us navigate [3:01:57] this going forward. [3:02:01] All right. [3:02:06] So that concludes if 501 are [3:02:07] there any mayoral council city [3:02:08] attorney, independent budget [3:02:11] analyst or city Clerk Comments [3:02:12] not seeing anybody lights Thank [3:02:16] you for that Given the hour we [3:02:17] will take non agenda public [3:02:17] comment for those individuals [3:02:21] in person and we will take [3:02:26] remote comments starting at [3:02:26] the 2:00 session. [3:02:27] So just the in-person non [3:02:30] agenda public comment I was [3:02:31] respect for people that sat [3:02:32] patiently and waited and will [3:02:36] take the remote and virtual [3:02:36] call in at 2 P.M. Without [3:02:40] the council members respect and [3:02:41] appreciate the public Someone [3:02:41] are fully committed to [3:02:42] protecting every participant's [3:02:44] free speech rights at Council [3:02:45] and committee meetings. [3:02:46] Clerk Please proceed with [3:02:46] the in-person public comment. [3:02:50] Again deferring the virtual [3:02:51] public comment until the 2:00 [3:02:51] session. [3:02:54] >> Thank you Pearl 2.7 Public [3:02:54] comment opportunity for members [3:02:55] that are here in chambers to [3:02:59] speak as noted those will be [3:03:00] trailed for the virtual join [3:03:03] Senator Maximillian Schmidt and [3:03:04] allegedly Audrey if you can [3:03:05] please come forward Joe you'll [3:03:05] have two minutes. [3:03:08] Please proceed. [3:03:13] >> There there has been a lot [3:03:13] of good fighting in these [3:03:14] chambers lately. [3:03:18] Each agenda item had a purpose [3:03:18] and a focus unique to it [3:03:22] Whether it was budget trash [3:03:23] fees, parking fees, hate crimes [3:03:27] and more. [3:03:28] Yet in my opinion something is [3:03:33] missing Something that brings [3:03:37] the beautiful tapestry. [3:03:38] Thank you Council member Ito [3:03:41] Revere together as one Yes [3:03:46] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee. [3:03:47] Words do matter So in my [3:03:51] opinion we need the words of a [3:03:56] new vision for San Diego a [3:03:56] noble vision for the great [3:03:56] city. [3:04:00] We want to become. [3:04:05] This would be the kickstart we [3:04:06] need for the boldness we need [3:04:10] to unravel and solve. [3:04:14] What is not working at our city [3:04:15] Structural core. [3:04:20] Dear Public you are all of you [3:04:25] all of us at the very top of [3:04:26] our city's organization chart. [3:04:30] Let's work together as one to [3:04:35] create a noble vision for our [3:04:35] beautiful city. [3:04:36] Now it's been a absolutely [3:04:39] beautiful morning. [3:04:40] >> Thank you everybody and love [3:04:51] to all Maximilian Schmidt in [3:04:52] California. [3:04:56] Every year there are hundreds [3:04:57] of suicides and thousands of [3:04:57] overdoses. [3:05:01] And I want to open Pandora's [3:05:02] box that a lot of them are due [3:05:06] to the lie that human beings [3:05:07] cannot read and other human [3:05:08] beings mind and that there's an [3:05:12] underground genocide going on [3:05:12] against normal white Christians [3:05:17] like myself that's been going [3:05:18] on since the time of Christ and [3:05:18] it's called Zeus. [3:05:22] It's song where I live in a [3:05:22] city owned and city operated [3:05:27] homeless shelter and I go to a [3:05:28] city operated library to look [3:05:28] for jobs and then I take [3:05:32] the city operated trolley in [3:05:32] between places and everywhere I [3:05:37] go there is something reading [3:05:38] my mind for example say like um [3:05:38] you have to like I'm thinking [3:05:42] of using the restroom right now [3:05:43] like someone will stand behind [3:05:43] me saying that the second I [3:05:46] think of using the restroom [3:05:47] looks like Oh I just checked [3:05:48] out a book from the library or [3:05:52] something and they'll say like [3:05:53] what book you checked out Or [3:05:53] even if if the person can't see [3:05:57] it they'll say um also all [3:05:57] sorts of disturbing things [3:06:01] basically trying to make you [3:06:02] subconsciously paranoid all [3:06:05] the time And it's coupled with [3:06:06] buildings making high pitch [3:06:07] noises all the time throughout [3:06:10] the day It's called a noise [3:06:10] campaign noise harassment and [3:06:11] people are being depopulated [3:06:15] under the table underground in [3:06:16] America and especially patriots [3:06:19] like myself who kind of found [3:06:20] themselves stranded in liberal [3:06:20] cities. [3:06:21] I'm from northern Kentucky, [3:06:21] southern Ohio. [3:06:24] I'm just a normal average [3:06:25] person who was living homeless [3:09:55] and [3:09:55] All right, good afternoon. [3:09:56] I will now reconvene the City [3:10:01] council meeting of Tuesday, [3:10:01] JUNE 16th excuse me 2026. [3:10:02] Clerk Please call the roll. [3:10:02] Thank you. [3:10:08] Council PRESIDENT Council [3:10:08] Member Campbell Yea Council [3:10:09] Member Whiteman Sure. [3:10:13] Council Member Foster Council [3:10:19] Member Von Wilpert Council [3:10:19] PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee there [3:10:24] Council Member Can you hear [3:10:25] Council Member Moreno Present [3:10:29] Council Member Eli Rivera and [3:10:29] Council PRESIDENT LaCava [3:10:36] Present Oh sorry Also attend [3:10:37] the meeting or Assistant City [3:10:41] Attorney Leslie Fitzgerald [3:10:42] Independent Budget Analyst [3:10:43] Charles Mollica Council Affairs [3:10:44] Advisor in the Mayor's office [3:10:47] Co-Designer and myself for City [3:10:48] Clerk Diana Fuentes Thank you [3:10:49] Council PRESIDENT Thank you. [3:10:49] A quorum is not present. [3:10:50] We will start this afternoon [3:10:54] session with our trailed non [3:10:54] agenda public comment from this [3:10:55] morning As a reminder we took [3:10:59] in-person non agenda public [3:11:00] comment at the end of our [3:11:01] morning session so now we will [3:11:04] hear the trail virtual portion [3:11:05] so Clark please proceed with [3:11:06] virtual non agenda public [3:11:06] comment. [3:11:07] >> Thank you. [3:11:11] Thank you Council PRESIDENT I [3:11:12] am starting the five minute [3:11:12] timer and going to those [3:11:13] participating remotely as you [3:11:17] know please be sure to speak on [3:11:18] items that are not on [3:11:18] the agenda but within [3:11:19] the subject matter jurisdiction [3:11:23] of the City Council. [3:11:24] >> Becky Wrap if you can please [3:11:24] unmute. [3:11:28] Good afternoon. [3:11:29] My name is Becky Rock and today [3:11:30] I'd like to recognize and thank [3:11:31] city attorney for her for her [3:11:34] office and her office for [3:11:35] taking action against [3:11:36] the illegal sale of marijuana [3:11:40] products at two San Diego smoke [3:11:40] shops On APRIL 30th the city [3:11:41] attorney announced that her [3:11:47] office had secured a temporary [3:11:47] restraining order against [3:11:52] Miramax to smoke, smoking and [3:11:52] prime smoke be requiring them [3:11:53] to stop selling marijuana [3:11:54] products without the licenses [3:11:58] required by state law And [3:11:59] the San Diego Municipal Code [3:12:03] one of those stores Prime Smoke [3:12:04] and Vape is located near my [3:12:05] home And as a resident I [3:12:09] appreciate the city's efforts [3:12:09] to address illegal activity in [3:12:10] our neighborhoods. [3:12:14] However, as of today, just six [3:12:15] weeks after the APRIL 30th [3:12:15] enforcement action, these [3:12:21] products still appear to be [3:12:21] advertised in the store [3:12:22] windows. [3:12:22] My concern goes beyond illegal [3:12:27] marijuana sales as many of [3:12:28] these smoke shops including [3:12:29] crime smoke and we are openly [3:12:32] selling flavored tobacco and [3:12:33] kratom which California has [3:12:38] also prohibited brightly lit up [3:12:39] signs are posted on their [3:12:40] Windows advertising using [3:12:40] illegal products. [3:12:44] True enforcement means [3:12:45] addressing all of the laws that [3:12:46] are being violated The business [3:12:46] of selling illegal marijuana [3:12:50] illegal flavored tobacco or [3:12:51] illegal kratom Those violations [3:12:51] should be investigated enforce [3:12:56] consistently. [3:12:57] I encourage the city to build [3:12:58] on the city attorney's efforts [3:13:02] by increasing inspections and [3:13:03] providing regular updates to [3:13:04] the public on compliance If [3:13:09] laws continue to be broken [3:13:09] the permits need to be revoked. [3:13:10] Please send a message that our [3:13:15] city will no longer tolerate [3:13:15] these illegal sales. [3:13:16] >> Thank you. [3:13:16] Thank you. [3:13:18] Next is Kathleen Lippert. [3:13:25] >> If you can please unmute. [3:13:26] Thank you for letting me speak. [3:13:31] i really am still struggling [3:13:31] with Councilmember Foster's [3:13:32] comments this afternoon. [3:13:37] I thought they were divisive [3:13:43] and continuing to focus on ways [3:13:44] on for reparations instead of [3:13:49] moving forward keeps us mired [3:13:50] in the divisiveness that we are [3:13:50] already in. [3:13:55] Also blaming the city's deficit [3:13:56] for conservatives, radicals and [3:13:57] this administration instead of [3:14:01] taking responsibility and [3:14:02] spending on things like zero [3:14:07] carbon goals, equity and [3:14:08] flooding that occurred because [3:14:08] the city diverted maintenance [3:14:12] not because of climate change. [3:14:13] The failure to enforce public [3:14:14] health laws such as public [3:14:19] drinking, smoking and drug use [3:14:19] already on the books continue [3:14:20] to erode community trust and [3:14:25] increase the city's looking [3:14:25] more like a third world country [3:14:26] rather than a beautiful, clean [3:14:31] and safe city at once was [3:14:32] originally created Unions [3:14:37] originally created to serve [3:14:38] the public now have become self [3:14:38] serving. [3:14:43] They are not helping [3:14:44] the public. [3:14:44] In fact they are a detriment [3:14:48] and a barrier to public have [3:14:49] the public being able to be [3:14:50] served by their elected [3:14:50] leaders. [3:14:54] They have way too much [3:14:55] influence. [3:14:55] Unions continue to oppose [3:14:56] school choice when parents want [3:15:00] the choice of schools that's [3:15:01] tailored for their children. [3:15:02] And despite global effort to [3:15:07] modernize slavery is widespread [3:15:11] and still at 167 countries [3:15:12] the first country to denounce [3:15:13] slavery was Great Britain. [3:15:13] The second was America. [3:15:17] Yet these are the only two [3:15:17] countries that continue to be [3:15:21] persecuted for ever having [3:15:22] allowed slavery in the first [3:15:22] place. [3:15:23] People of color were not only [3:15:29] the only humans traffic [3:15:29] the British occupied and ruled [3:15:30] over I thank you Your time has [3:15:30] concluded. [3:15:31] Blair Beakman if you can please [3:15:38] I'm you all right there? [3:15:38] Beakman Thank you. [3:15:42] Yeah, I wanted to comment from [3:15:42] yesterday. [3:15:43] I am really hopeful about [3:15:48] the initiative about you know, [3:15:49] working on what's happening [3:15:54] with our Somali community And [3:16:00] so I'm interested how we will [3:16:01] be working together to ask [3:16:02] people who are promoting a way [3:16:06] of thinking and believe how [3:16:07] they can limit that, how they [3:16:08] can bring their words to a [3:16:13] different place in asking [3:16:13] questions And that is a real [3:16:19] serious problem that I want to [3:16:20] be able to address How do we [3:16:21] address policy without going at [3:16:24] each other's throats Basically [3:16:25] And that takes work from all of [3:16:31] us And yeah I, I hope we can we [3:16:32] can get there. [3:16:32] It takes a lot of practice and [3:16:36] I want to I'm just [3:16:37] understanding how to possibly [3:16:38] better practice those things. [3:16:43] It takes patience and it takes [3:16:43] really wanting to listen to [3:16:44] both sides And Detroit Senator [3:16:49] who was thinking about ideas of [3:16:50] real hate after the events of [3:16:50] the Islamic shooting incidents [3:16:55] I was amazed and impressed by [3:16:56] the calmness and wisdom of [3:17:01] the imams from San Diego And I [3:17:02] listened to an a man from Texas [3:17:03] at the same time who was [3:17:06] speaking on the issues at [3:17:07] the shooting and they offered a [3:17:08] real sense of peace and just [3:17:12] ask for patience how to address [3:17:12] things. [3:17:13] And it was really helpful for [3:17:18] myself And I learned important [3:17:19] lessons that maybe Joyce and I [3:17:19] can talk to imam of the San [3:17:24] Diego Islamic Center and get [3:17:25] his understanding on how to [3:17:25] address such things. [3:17:26] We need that more in San Diego [3:17:30] We don't need hyperbolic [3:17:31] behavior and language and we [3:17:35] have to learn ways to really [3:17:36] hear both sides and come up [3:17:37] with progressive answers. [3:17:37] >> How do we do that? [3:17:37] Thank you. [3:17:40] Thank you. [3:17:41] Next is a phone number ending [3:17:42] in 5935. [3:17:50] If you can press star six to [3:17:50] unmute 5935. [3:17:57] Brother Steve Star six to [3:18:08] unmute I'll come back to you [3:18:12] Peggy Walker if you can please [3:18:17] unmute. [3:18:18] Thank you. [3:18:18] Good afternoon. [3:18:19] Because this is Pride month I [3:18:19] came to call attention to [3:18:23] multiple studies showing lgbtq [3:18:23] youth use intoxicating [3:18:29] substances as at significantly [3:18:29] higher rates than their [3:18:33] straight peers and are twice as [3:18:34] likely to use marijuana. [3:18:35] This high prevalence points to [3:18:40] the susceptibility of this [3:18:41] vulnerable population to [3:18:41] negative substance use outcomes [3:18:44] to administrative research [3:18:45] finds a higher proportion of [3:18:50] lgbtq young people use cigarets [3:18:51] and e-cigarettes highlighting [3:18:55] persistent disparities in [3:18:56] tobacco use among this group as [3:18:56] well. [3:18:57] Due in part to targeted [3:19:01] marketing by the tobacco [3:19:01] industry tactics adopted by [3:19:06] the marijuana manufacturers as [3:19:07] well National substance use [3:19:12] prevention data Further shows [3:19:13] 56% of lgbtq youth used alcohol [3:19:17] in the past year including 47% [3:19:22] under age 21 and 1 in 3 used [3:19:22] marijuana. [3:19:26] >> Disturbingly, national data [3:19:27] shows higher substance use [3:19:27] rates have increased the risk [3:19:32] of suicide attempt by lgbtq [3:19:36] youth compared with their peers [3:19:37] according to research [3:19:38] harassment and discrimination [3:19:41] of the lgbtq individuals. [3:19:42] Increase of stress leading to [3:19:46] higher rates of youth substance [3:19:47] use putting them at greater [3:19:48] risk of addiction and related [3:19:53] mental health concerns. [3:19:53] And this data emphasizes that [3:19:57] widespread commercialization of [3:19:58] marijuana and other addictive [3:19:58] products continues to harm [3:20:03] young people across the board [3:20:03] as especially vulnerable youth. [3:20:08] While promises of protection [3:20:09] have failed in light of all [3:20:12] this, I urge you to rethink [3:20:13] drug policies that allow [3:20:18] widespread availability of high [3:20:19] potency thc and harm all youth. [3:20:23] >> Your time has concluded [3:20:23] going back 59355935. [3:20:32] Press star six to unmute I [3:20:33] think I'm reading that right [3:20:38] yes 5935 star six to unmute [3:20:38] fortunately if you can hear me [3:20:39] we will have to move on to [3:20:43] other callers. [3:20:49] Star six To unmute you are not [3:20:54] on mute and we cannot hear you [3:20:55] here in council chambers and I [3:20:56] can unmute for you remember [3:20:57] the welcome to give written [3:21:02] comments to the Council Madison [3:21:07] If you can please unmute I [3:21:08] thank you. [3:21:08] Good afternoon City Council [3:21:09] members. [3:21:12] Yesterday I spoke about [3:21:13] California's new air tool that [3:21:14] helps identify marijuana [3:21:17] packaging that MAY appeal to [3:21:18] children. [3:21:18] I think that development [3:21:19] highlights something important [3:21:23] technology can be used to [3:21:23] better protect public health [3:21:24] and safety. [3:21:27] If regulators are willing to [3:21:28] use artificial intelligence to [3:21:28] help identify problematic [3:21:32] packaging, perhaps we should [3:21:33] also explore how new [3:21:33] technologies can support [3:21:36] enforcement efforts against [3:21:37] cannabis retailers that violate [3:21:37] the law. [3:21:41] Many San Diegan have heard [3:21:42] concerns about retailers [3:21:42] selling unapproved or illegal [3:21:46] products including products [3:21:47] that MAY not have undergone [3:21:47] required testing or that are [3:21:50] sold outside of approved [3:21:51] channels. [3:21:51] Effective enforcement is [3:21:55] essential because rules only [3:21:56] protect the public when they [3:21:56] are actually followed and [3:22:00] enforced. [3:22:01] I encourage the city to think [3:22:04] creatively about how technology [3:22:05] and data can help identify [3:22:06] patterns of noncompliance, [3:22:10] improve inspections, support [3:22:10] investigations and make [3:22:14] enforcement resources more [3:22:14] efficient. [3:22:15] Air should never replace human [3:22:16] judgment, but it MAY help [3:22:19] regulators focus attention [3:22:20] where problems are most likely [3:22:20] to exist. [3:22:24] As a mother of three young [3:22:25] children, my concern is that [3:22:26] when products with intoxicating [3:22:29] effects are sold in our [3:22:30] communities we should be doing [3:22:30] everything we can to ensure [3:22:34] businesses are following [3:22:34] the rules and that youth are [3:22:35] protected from exposure and [3:22:39] access to the state's new ai [3:22:40] tool shows that innovation can [3:22:43] be used in service of public [3:22:44] safety. [3:22:44] I hope San Diego will continue [3:22:48] looking for ways to use [3:22:49] available technology to [3:22:49] strengthen oversight, improve [3:22:50] accountability and protect [3:22:53] young people. [3:22:54] Thank you. [3:22:54] Thank you. [3:22:55] Thank you. [3:22:57] 7499. [3:23:05] If you can please unmute 7499. [3:23:06] >> Bob Kozinski here. [3:23:10] First bravo to Kathleen [3:23:10] Lippert. [3:23:11] This council's earlier flowery [3:23:14] speeches about Juneteenth [3:23:15] freedom and equal rights would [3:23:16] indeed be admirable if this [3:23:19] council itself wasn't denying [3:23:20] freedom and equal rights to [3:23:21] your own citizens right here in [3:23:25] your own city, in your own time [3:23:25] and under your own noses. [3:23:26] Every member of this council [3:23:30] knows that citizens are being [3:23:30] arbitrarily discriminated [3:23:31] against At the Torrey Pines [3:23:34] Glider port by your [3:23:35] concessionaire and an [3:23:35] organization calling itself [3:23:35] Youth. [3:23:39] But this council and you Joe [3:23:40] LaCava allow your glider port [3:23:41] operator to deny equal rights [3:23:45] to any citizens that day or use [3:23:45] the disguise they don't like [3:23:46] for any reason. [3:23:49] Does this city or this city [3:23:50] council make any effort at all [3:23:54] to ensure that youth isn't [3:23:54] expelling people out of [3:23:55] discrimination or retaliation [3:23:59] or for any other unjustified [3:23:59] reasons? [3:24:00] No you don't. [3:24:03] Yet each of you postured here [3:24:04] today as if you really cared [3:24:04] about people being abused in [3:24:08] this city and this country. [3:24:08] The proof is there. [3:24:09] You don't. [3:24:12] Just yesterday on JUNE 15th, [3:24:12] 2026 I spent another day hang [3:24:13] gliding at the Dockweiler hang [3:24:17] gliding site in Los Angeles [3:24:17] near lax. [3:24:18] Myself and dozens maybe [3:24:22] hundreds of others have been [3:24:23] able to fly at that site since [3:24:23] 2017 when the county of Los [3:24:27] Angeles reviewed Uber's [3:24:28] predatory expulsion practices [3:24:31] and determined that the county [3:24:32] of Los Angeles would not allow [3:24:32] citizens to be arbitrarily [3:24:36] barred from public recreational [3:24:36] lands. [3:24:37] So in 2017 the County of Los [3:24:41] Angeles implemented Dockweiler [3:24:41] waiver which has been [3:24:42] successfully in place for [3:24:42] nearly a decade. [3:24:46] Yet what do you do in San Diego [3:24:46] ? [3:24:47] You make flowery speeches about [3:24:47] Juneteenth rather than taking [3:24:50] the actions that you could take [3:24:51] right here in your own city. [3:24:52] Some of you also feel the need [3:24:56] to grandstand and rail against [3:24:56] our PRESIDENT While you don't [3:24:57] even do your own job right here [3:25:00] in San Diego. [3:25:01] This problem was solved in just [3:25:02] a few short months by [3:25:02] the county of Los Angeles, but [3:25:05] it has gotten completely [3:25:06] unresolved and even ignored [3:25:06] here in San Diego. [3:25:10] Shame on you, Joe Lacob. [3:25:11] Shame on you, Todd Gloria And [3:25:12] shame on this entire city [3:25:15] council. [3:25:15] >> Your time has concluded and [3:25:16] that concludes on agenda public [3:25:17] comment virtually for today's [3:25:19] meeting. [3:25:20] All right, City clerk. [3:25:21] Some of you MAY have noticed [3:25:24] that our typical screens remain [3:25:25] blank So we're going to take a [3:25:26] couple of minutes and do a [3:25:29] reboot of a system that [3:25:29] hopefully will clear that [3:25:30] problem. [3:27:11] So bear with us [3:29:12] and [3:30:24] then thank you for your [3:30:24] patience. [3:30:25] We are back online. [3:30:25] All right. [3:30:29] Just getting ready for JULY [3:30:30] 1st. [3:30:30] Thank you to the Wizards that [3:30:32] figured that out. [3:30:37] >> All right. [3:30:38] Just because today is a day we [3:30:41] will be changing the order of [3:30:41] items on today's docket and we [3:30:45] will start with item 333 and [3:30:46] phase f8-1. [3:30:51] We will then hear items s5o4, [3:30:54] then 330 and 331. [3:30:59] At the end we'll come back for [3:31:03] a pfa minutes and pfa non [3:31:04] agenda public comment at [3:31:04] the end. [3:31:08] So with that clerk please [3:31:09] introduce the City Council and [3:31:09] the Public Facilities Financing [3:31:13] Authority related items. [3:31:14] >> Item 330 through three is [3:31:14] the authorization for [3:31:15] the Public Facilities Financing [3:31:17] Authority of the City of San [3:31:18] Diego Senior Water Revenue [3:31:21] Bonds Series 2026 a preliminary [3:31:25] official statement and item one [3:31:25] is the approval of the form and [3:31:26] authorization of [3:31:26] the distribution of [3:31:30] the preliminary official [3:31:30] statement and authorization of [3:31:31] the execution delivery and [3:31:34] distribution of the official [3:31:35] statement in connection with [3:31:36] the issuance and sale by [3:31:36] the Public Facilities Financing [3:31:40] Authority of the City of San [3:31:40] Diego its 2026 senior water [3:31:41] revenue bonds. [3:31:45] This item is not subject to [3:31:45] the mayor's veto. [3:31:46] Thank you Council PRESIDENT. [3:31:46] All right. [3:31:46] Thank you. [3:31:47] I see staff is starting to [3:31:50] settle in. [3:31:50] When you're ready please [3:31:51] introduce yourselves for [3:31:54] the record and let us know how [3:31:54] much time you need for [3:31:55] the combined presentation. [3:31:55] >> Thank you. [3:32:00] Good afternoon. [3:32:01] Council PRESIDENT And members [3:32:01] of the City Council. [3:32:02] Jose Padilla, assistant [3:32:03] director with the Department of [3:32:04] Finance and presenting with me [3:32:05] today Marisol Wilder, Venus [3:32:09] financing Coordinator. [3:32:09] Jasmine and Jasmine Mellon [3:32:10] finance analyst from [3:32:11] the Department of Finance. [3:32:14] And Rhett Butler, Chief Deputy [3:32:14] Deputy City Attorney. [3:32:18] We also have Adam Jones from [3:32:19] Public Utilities and soon from [3:32:25] a municipal advisor and our [3:32:25] bond counsel Diane Quan from [3:32:26] Hawkins del Lynwood [3:32:28] participating remotely. [3:32:28] You'll need about 10 to 12 [3:32:29] minutes. [3:32:29] All right. [3:32:30] When you're ready. [3:32:32] Thank you. [3:32:33] The city council previously [3:32:36] approved the issuance of [3:32:37] the 2026 a water bond and all [3:32:40] relevant legal documents via [3:32:41] ordinance in MARCH 2026. [3:32:41] And the authority also took [3:32:46] similar action in FEBRUARY 2026 [3:32:46] with a resolution. [3:32:51] Before I turn it to Marisol on [3:32:51] the specifics of the requested [3:32:54] actions, I'd like to note first [3:32:54] that these bonds do not impact [3:32:58] the city's debt ratios. [3:32:59] The water bonds are governed by [3:33:00] financial metrics specific to [3:33:03] the utility including debt [3:33:04] service coverage and liquidity [3:33:08] or cash flow metrics. [3:33:09] Second, the water utility bonds [3:33:09] were put on a negative outlook [3:33:14] last year by two rating [3:33:14] agencies Fitch and Moody's. [3:33:18] Just earlier this morning we [3:33:18] received ratings on the 2026 [3:33:22] senior water revenue bonds. [3:33:23] Moody's has downgraded [3:33:23] the ratings of the senior water [3:33:27] revenue bonds from Double-a to [3:33:28] to Double-a three and changed [3:33:32] the outlook from negative to [3:33:33] stable. [3:33:33] They cited reduction in [3:33:34] the water, utilities, liquidity [3:33:38] and debt along with and debt [3:33:38] ratios. [3:33:42] Sorry They cited the water [3:33:43] utilities, liquidity and [3:33:43] coverage issues along with [3:33:47] uncertain ability to raise [3:33:48] rates to maintain adequate [3:33:52] liquidity as reasons for this [3:33:52] downgrade. [3:33:53] We expect Fitch to release [3:33:53] their ratings later this [3:33:54] afternoon. [3:33:56] Staff will distribute a [3:33:57] detailed memorandum on [3:34:01] the readings including rating [3:34:01] actions on the outstanding [3:34:02] water bonds and loans in [3:34:03] the coming days. [3:34:07] And now I will turn it over to [3:34:07] Marisol to go over the fiscal [3:34:08] impact and the preliminary [3:34:14] official statement based on [3:34:15] estimated market conditions as [3:34:15] of MAY 20th 2026. [3:34:19] The Vivendi financing plan [3:34:19] includes approximately 140 [3:34:23] million and new money proceeds [3:34:23] . [3:34:24] The estimated true interest [3:34:27] cost for the new money bonds is [3:34:28] approximately 4.42%. [3:34:29] Debt service is expected to be [3:34:33] about 3.6 million in fiscal [3:34:33] year 27. [3:34:34] If I take it interest only [3:34:37] payment thereafter [3:34:37] the anticipated debt service is [3:34:41] approximately 8.4 million [3:34:42] annually through fiscal year [3:34:42] 57. [3:34:43] Refinancing component [3:34:45] The refinancing component is [3:34:46] expected to generate [3:34:47] significant savings with an [3:34:50] estimated net present value [3:34:51] savings of 8.9% and total [3:34:52] estimated savings of [3:34:56] approximately 32.3 million. [3:34:56] The debt service coverage ratio [3:35:01] is estimated at 1.41 times in [3:35:01] fiscal year 26 and is projected [3:35:06] to increase to 2.17 times in [3:35:10] the five year projection period [3:35:10] . [3:35:11] This slide summarizes [3:35:11] the estimated sources and uses [3:35:15] of funds. [3:35:15] Overall the transaction is [3:35:18] expected to generate [3:35:19] approximately 475 million in [3:35:19] bond proceeds. [3:35:20] These funds will primarily be [3:35:24] used for three purposes [3:35:25] repaying outstanding commercial [3:35:25] paper funding water system [3:35:29] capital improvements and [3:35:29] refunding outstanding water [3:35:30] revenue bonds. [3:35:31] A relatively small portion will [3:35:34] cover cost of issuance. [3:35:35] As with all financing [3:35:35] estimates, these figures remain [3:35:37] subject to change based on [3:35:42] market conditions. [3:35:43] >> Regarding the time line with [3:35:46] council approval of the post we [3:35:47] expect to release the documents [3:35:48] to the market in the next few [3:35:52] days and price the bonds about [3:35:52] two weeks from now on JULY 1st. [3:35:53] The bonds are anticipated to [3:35:57] close on JULY 14th 2026. [3:35:57] These dates are estimates and [3:36:01] MAY be adjusted if necessary. [3:36:06] >> The literary the preliminary [3:36:07] official statement is intended [3:36:08] to provide information that an [3:36:08] investor would consider [3:36:12] material in making an informed [3:36:12] investment decision and [3:36:13] includes the terms of [3:36:13] the bonds. [3:36:16] The Financing Plan. [3:36:17] Security for Repayment. [3:36:17] Financial and Operational [3:36:21] Information about the water [3:36:22] system Applicable risk factors [3:36:26] and expected credit ratings. [3:36:31] This slide with the pertinent [3:36:32] information contained in [3:36:32] the preliminary official [3:36:36] statement on the water system [3:36:37] and the city overall that an [3:36:41] investor would need to consider [3:36:41] such as water system service [3:36:45] area facilities, water supply [3:36:46] capital improvement program, [3:36:50] financial operations and five [3:36:50] year projections. [3:36:51] Also included is information on [3:36:55] climate change investments, [3:36:55] labor relations, insurance, [3:36:59] pension and litigation. [3:37:00] The p o. [3:37:04] S also lists risk factors that [3:37:05] investors MAY consider in their [3:37:05] purchase of the bonds. [3:37:09] The posted grab's risks related [3:37:10] to the water system and risks [3:37:11] related to the bonds themselves [3:37:16] and other risks. [3:37:17] And finally there are [3:37:18] appendices contained in [3:37:18] the document that provide [3:37:21] additional information for [3:37:22] the bondholder. [3:37:22] These include summaries of [3:37:27] principal legal documents [3:37:27] the form of bond counsel's [3:37:28] approving opinion, [3:37:31] the continuing disclosures [3:37:32] certificate and information [3:37:33] regarding the book entry only [3:37:33] system used for the bonds. [3:37:36] The document will continue to [3:37:37] be updated as needed until it's [3:37:41] released to the market. [3:37:42] Now let's turn it over to Brett [3:37:42] to briefly describe [3:37:46] the disclosure process. [3:37:50] Thank you and good afternoon. [3:37:51] As you are familiar from your [3:37:52] securities responsibility [3:37:56] disclosure responsibility [3:37:56] trainings in the past. [3:37:57] This all stems from [3:38:00] the Securities Disclosure [3:38:01] Ordinance that was adopted in [3:38:01] mid 2000s. [3:38:05] It requires the establishment [3:38:06] of the Disclosure Practices [3:38:07] Working Group or ewg. [3:38:11] The composition of that group [3:38:15] is the ceo Director of Finance [3:38:16] ,Chief Financial Officer, City [3:38:20] Attorney, the dca for finance [3:38:21] and Disclosure And then we have [3:38:22] outside general Disclosure [3:38:22] counsel. [3:38:25] The dpw then established as [3:38:26] part of the disclosure [3:38:30] ordinances requirements [3:38:30] the disclosure controls and [3:38:35] procedures or controls and as [3:38:36] part of the controls and [3:38:40] the process the mayor, city [3:38:40] attorney and cfo provide [3:38:41] certifications regarding [3:38:45] the policy to the marketing [3:38:46] document that there are no [3:38:46] material misstatements or [3:38:50] omissions within the document. [3:38:50] >> Next slide please. [3:38:55] So at the beginning the process [3:38:55] involves solicitation from [3:38:56] numerous departments that will [3:39:00] contribute material information [3:39:00] to the book. [3:39:04] P d d of treasurer etc. You can [3:39:05] see the list there. [3:39:09] All of those directors of those [3:39:10] departments will provide [3:39:10] certifications as to [3:39:11] the accuracy and completeness [3:39:14] of the information that they [3:39:14] provide. [3:39:15] We also review publicly [3:39:19] available sources. [3:39:20] The s goes through multiple [3:39:24] iterations as it's developed to [3:39:25] make sure that we are telling [3:39:25] the story to the market [3:39:29] accurately and completely. [3:39:29] And then ultimately [3:39:34] the financing group and each of [3:39:34] those contributing departments [3:39:35] will certify to dpw g that [3:39:39] the process was followed and [3:39:39] that the content is as it's [3:39:40] required to be accurate and [3:39:40] complete. [3:39:46] Next slide please. [3:39:47] It was the post that was sent [3:39:51] to you was approved, reviewed [3:39:52] and approved by the dpw g. [3:39:56] You have received along with [3:39:57] the Disclosure Responsibilities [3:39:57] memorandum that I sent along [3:40:01] last week certifications from [3:40:02] the Mayor, the city attorney [3:40:05] and the cfo. [3:40:06] Along with that memorandum it [3:40:10] sets forth all of your as [3:40:11] council members your legal [3:40:14] obligations and it could [3:40:15] provide some guidance as to how [3:40:16] you're to meet those [3:40:19] obligations And also it [3:40:20] contains all of those [3:40:21] individual certifications from [3:40:24] departments. [3:40:25] And as was said before, Mirasol [3:40:29] stated the updates will be [3:40:30] provided if and when they occur [3:40:34] and if they are material. [3:40:34] And so with that we'll go to [3:40:35] the last slide. [3:40:38] And this is what you're being [3:40:39] asked to do to approve the form [3:40:40] and authorize the pos here [3:40:40] today. [3:40:51] Thank you. [3:40:51] That concludes [3:40:52] the presentation. [3:40:52] Yes. [3:40:52] All right. [3:40:55] Thank you for the work and for [3:40:56] the presentation, please. [3:40:56] Clerk Please proceed with [3:41:00] public comment for these two [3:41:00] items. [3:41:00] >> Thank you. [3:41:01] We'll proceed with public [3:41:02] comment on both items. [3:41:02] Maximilian Schmidt If you can [3:41:07] please come forward. [3:41:11] Then after that will be [3:41:15] allegedly addressed. [3:41:16] >> You'll have two minutes for [3:41:17] these items. [3:41:17] Please proceed. [3:41:17] Hi. [3:41:21] I just wanted to make my voice [3:41:25] heard here and use my First [3:41:25] Amendment right to say that I, [3:41:26] um. [3:41:29] I know this is only an [3:41:30] information agenda, but I want [3:41:35] to say that I, um I'm opposed [3:41:39] to the city investing our tax [3:41:40] dollars period. [3:41:41] Um, no matter how they invest [3:41:45] them even if they get $150 [3:41:46] million aggregate total of new [3:41:49] money And I want to question [3:41:50] the cfo, the mayor and [3:41:54] the financing group as to [3:41:59] the reason I'm opposed to them [3:42:00] is because I believe there [3:42:04] could be chances for collusion [3:42:04] and market manipulation among [3:42:05] Masonic brothers inside [3:42:10] the market and on city council [3:42:14] taking our tax dollars to [3:42:15] invest to invest with. [3:42:19] And the reason why is because I [3:42:20] have reason to believe that [3:42:24] the same people who are on are [3:42:28] running the water system and um [3:42:29] could be Masonic brothers with [3:42:34] the city council and I believe [3:42:37] that um is can cause collusion [3:42:38] and I believe that more [3:42:39] attention needs to be drawn [3:42:43] towards um the City council and [3:42:48] the people in the market um and [3:42:48] the water system they're not [3:42:52] total strangers to each other. [3:42:53] Um, they MAY know each other [3:42:57] quite well and I can see how [3:42:58] there could be market [3:43:03] manipulation where if I'm if I [3:43:04] want to start investing my [3:43:04] money I feel uncomfortable If [3:43:07] there is Masonic brothers, um, [3:43:08] playing around with the market [3:43:09] investing money in the market [3:43:12] and I, I wanted to say that [3:43:12] maybe we should not allow [3:43:17] Freemasons to invest in [3:43:18] the market because they're [3:43:18] telepathic and that could cause [3:43:19] an unfair advantage. [3:43:22] >> Your time has concluded [3:43:22] allegedly. [3:43:23] Try If you can please come [3:43:24] forward You'll have two minutes [3:43:31] for both items. [3:43:32] >> Uh, I do appreciate Max. [3:43:33] He does have a little bit of a [3:43:36] different way of presenting [3:43:37] things but what he is saying is [3:43:40] true There is manipulation in [3:43:41] the market and things like [3:43:41] that. [3:43:42] So you guys want to kind of [3:43:45] dismiss people but if you [3:43:46] listen to things that they're [3:43:50] saying you might pick a [3:43:50] pointers that would bring you [3:43:51] back over center of what [3:43:55] the person is saying Because [3:43:59] you know the problem is is that [3:44:00] it's interesting that we're [3:44:01] always getting into debt for [3:44:02] the basic necessities of things [3:44:05] that need to be provided. [3:44:06] You know, the government should [3:44:09] have been put in place for us [3:44:10] to have like those basic things [3:44:14] like water, electricity and you [3:44:15] know, just the freedom of [3:44:19] movement and things like that. [3:44:20] But what happens is is that you [3:44:21] guys look at it as a business [3:44:24] so you buy and you sell water, [3:44:24] you know and it's like we go [3:44:28] into debt trying to provide it. [3:44:29] We can't even keep up with [3:44:29] the infrastructure. [3:44:32] I mean look at this storm $5 [3:44:33] billion that we need for storm [3:44:33] infrastructure. [3:44:37] That's that's a disgrace And so [3:44:38] it's like, you know, when [3:44:38] the government gets into doing [3:44:42] things in a business manner, [3:44:42] they're looking at revenue and [3:44:46] making money and not really [3:44:47] just making sure that we have [3:44:47] these things. [3:44:51] That's why it's awesome to be [3:44:52] out in an unincorporated area [3:44:53] where you can have your own [3:44:53] water and you don't have [3:44:56] the city or in some, you know, [3:44:57] municipality or corporation [3:45:00] coming in and putting fluoride [3:45:01] and chlorine and lye and all of [3:45:05] these things like you guys do [3:45:06] you know we're able to just [3:45:07] from the ground drill get [3:45:11] the water and be able to you [3:45:11] know, provide for our families [3:45:15] in that way. [3:45:16] But it's like when [3:45:16] the government weaponizes [3:45:17] things And that's the problem [3:45:20] is that things should be benign [3:45:21] And on the surface it looks [3:45:21] that way. [3:45:24] But when you weaponize [3:45:25] something against the people [3:45:26] that's where corruption comes [3:45:29] in And so it's unfortunate that [3:45:30] we have to be in debt just for [3:45:35] things like water sewer as I in [3:45:35] the five minute time we're [3:45:36] going to those participating [3:45:39] remotely starting with [3:45:40] Christine Wellborn if you can [3:45:41] please on mute Are you speaking [3:45:42] on both items or just one of [3:45:51] them? [3:45:52] Christine while we're on hold [3:45:52] on one second. [3:45:57] I do see that you are speaking [3:45:58] We do not hear you here in [3:46:09] council chambers. [3:46:09] Hello. [3:46:14] I'm muted or you're muted. [3:46:14] We can't hear any of [3:46:18] the presentation through Zoom [3:46:19] or over the phone. [3:46:23] We are working on it If you can [3:46:24] give me your comments. [3:46:24] That's all I was calling about. [3:46:25] Thank you. [3:46:28] Thank you. [3:46:29] Blair Beckman if you can please [3:46:38] on All right we're Beekman Same [3:46:42] thing I was not able at all to [3:46:43] hear the presentation I'm [3:46:43] surprisingly I'm able to speak [3:46:47] a comment time on on the senior [3:46:48] water plant issues and I [3:46:52] couldn't hear the presentation [3:46:53] I can just offer good luck and [3:46:57] how we now my timer okay my [3:46:57] timer starting. [3:46:58] Good luck how we can address [3:47:02] water or bond issues clearly I [3:47:06] think we have to yes I [3:47:06] understand. [3:47:07] One minute. [3:47:07] One second please. [3:47:11] I'll be 10s I I understand that [3:47:11] we have an obligation to [3:47:17] practice quality, you know, [3:47:18] building I think we have to [3:47:21] really acknowledge for some [3:47:21] people it's more difficult to [3:47:22] pay for services than other [3:47:26] people and how we work on that [3:47:27] and consider that what we can [3:47:28] be doing and help in some way. [3:47:29] You're talking about that on [3:47:30] this item. [3:47:34] Thank you. [3:47:35] Thank you. [3:47:35] We are going to do one more [3:47:44] test before we proceed. [3:47:44] >> Test test. [3:47:48] Can somebody hear me on [3:47:48] the panel? [3:48:08] If I'd test test, test Now can [3:48:24] you hear Test now? [3:48:27] No, We are having technical [3:49:09] difficulties with the audio [3:49:10] test Test. [3:49:14] Can you hear now? [3:49:14] Test Test. [3:49:36] I see the mic working testing [3:49:41] the test Test 123. [3:49:43] I do see the mic going up and [3:50:07] down Just getting confirmation [3:50:07] . [3:50:08] Test, test, test, test, test. [3:50:15] One, two, three, test, test. [3:50:44] >> Now it's gone Well and we [3:50:45] have our tests that process in [3:50:46] place for JULY 1st that we can [3:50:46] run through. [3:50:48] We do see the microphone is [3:50:59] going up and down. [3:51:06] You can hear I'm getting [3:51:06] reports that it can be heard. [3:51:10] >> I'm just going to go to one [3:51:11] of our speakers online, [3:51:11] Kathleen Lippert, can you [3:51:16] confirm if you can hear [3:51:20] Kathleen the pick anyone you [3:51:50] all right Test test. [3:51:54] Can you hear test test. [3:51:58] I don't see you're going You [3:52:05] still hear it again, I'm [3:52:06] getting different reports for [3:52:07] different people. [3:52:12] It's hard Can't be Olympic And [3:52:26] you and you okay. [3:52:44] Test test, test, test. [3:52:48] One, two, three, test, test. [3:52:49] One, two, three. [3:53:06] Okay, test One, two, three, [3:53:07] test. [3:55:08] One, two, three [3:56:19] . [3:56:20] Thank you for your patience For [3:56:21] those that are on Zoom we are [3:56:22] trying to resolve the technical [3:56:22] difficulties. [3:58:23] If you can hear me [4:00:12] test user please unmute test [4:00:17] user please on you see I can [4:00:18] hear you. [4:00:18] Thank you. [4:00:22] My apologies again for [4:00:23] the technical difficulties. [4:00:35] >> We are ready to continue. [4:00:35] All right. [4:00:41] We're back up and operating So [4:00:42] with that we will turn it over [4:00:42] to council member questions and [4:00:43] comments on both items and then [4:00:48] take separate motions from [4:00:48] the two. [4:00:49] So anybody want to take this [4:00:54] off or you want me to count [4:01:00] the number is over there. [4:01:01] Thank you, PRESIDENT All right. [4:01:05] I want to make sure that I [4:01:06] understood some of the comments [4:01:11] at the beginning, the downgrade [4:01:11] that was mentioned. [4:01:15] What are the practical [4:01:16] implications of that for [4:01:21] the city? [4:01:22] Thank you Council Member First, [4:01:23] the downgrade was specific to [4:01:28] the water utility so any [4:01:29] impacts would be only on [4:01:29] the water utility, not [4:01:30] the general fund bonds of this [4:01:34] who bonds in terms of practical [4:01:35] impacts typically So in this [4:01:40] case the bonds that we are [4:01:41] selling in two weeks are still [4:01:41] going to be in the category [4:01:46] They were downgraded from 2 to [4:01:46] 3. [4:01:52] We could see some impact on [4:01:52] the interest rate or the cost [4:01:53] of borrowing. [4:01:53] It's it's hard to quantify [4:01:59] exactly how much but in based [4:01:59] on my discussion with them this [4:02:04] bill advisor worst case there [4:02:10] could be an impact of about [4:02:10] five basis points or.05 percent [4:02:16] that's that's give or take but [4:02:16] also to get more context as we [4:02:17] know the interest rates are [4:02:21] determined the date of pricing [4:02:21] and there are several factors [4:02:22] that determine our final [4:02:27] borrowing rate depending on how [4:02:28] many other bonds are available [4:02:28] for sale that day. [4:02:29] What are the demand conditions [4:02:33] Macroeconomy conditions, [4:02:33] geopolitical conditions. [4:02:34] So in that context of this [4:02:39] rating downgrade qualitatively [4:02:44] could is a relatively minor and [4:02:51] potential impact. [4:02:51] Got it. [4:02:51] Okay. [4:02:52] I appreciate that. [4:02:57] Well with that in mind I will [4:02:58] move approval of the staff [4:03:02] recommendation Council [4:03:03] PRESIDENT All right. [4:03:07] >> We have a motion on item 333 [4:03:08] the staff recommendation by [4:03:08] Councilmember de la Rivera. [4:03:09] I will go ahead and second and [4:03:13] I just want to follow up on his [4:03:14] question. [4:03:15] Well, the thing that I think [4:03:15] you were thinking but didn't [4:03:19] actually say that if there is [4:03:19] if everything else is stable [4:03:20] except for that five basis [4:03:25] points, this is still the right [4:03:26] thing for us to do at this [4:03:26] time. [4:03:27] Yes, that is correct. [4:03:31] Okay. [4:03:32] Just want to double check that [4:03:33] both in terms of new bonds as [4:03:34] well as refunding the old bonds [4:03:37] that is correct. [4:03:37] Okay. [4:03:38] Thank you for that. [4:03:38] So with nobody else on [4:03:42] the lights we do have a motion [4:03:43] by council member Eli Rivera [4:03:44] and second by myself to move [4:03:47] the staff recommendation on [4:03:48] item 333 please call the roll [4:03:50] I'm sorry the voting system [4:03:56] Please cast your vote that [4:04:02] passes unanimously 8 to 0 with [4:04:03] council member Von Wilpert [4:04:03] upset. [4:04:04] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All [4:04:04] right. [4:04:05] Thank you. [4:04:05] We will now adjourn as the city [4:04:08] council and convene at [4:04:09] the Public Facilities Financing [4:04:10] Authority to vote on the Public [4:04:10] Facilities Financing Authority [4:04:15] item Council member I'll work [4:04:19] on your motion again and I will [4:04:19] second again. [4:04:20] So we have a motion by council [4:04:23] member Eli River and the second [4:04:29] by myself to move pfa item for [4:04:30] one with that clerk please call [4:04:30] the roll aside the voting [4:04:37] system please cast your vote [4:04:38] and that passes unanimously 8 [4:04:39] to 0 with Council member Von [4:04:44] Wilpert Absent. [4:04:45] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All [4:04:46] right, Thank you and thank you [4:04:46] to staff for the work and [4:04:50] taking that item early. [4:04:50] So with that clerk please [4:04:55] introduce item 504 Item 5o4 is [4:04:56] the amendment to the salary [4:05:00] ordinance for fiscal year 2027. [4:05:01] If you are here and wish to [4:05:02] speak to that item please [4:05:02] submit your speakers up to [4:05:06] the front of the room And if [4:05:06] you're here virtually please be [4:05:07] sure to raise your hand by [4:05:08] pressing Star nine or the raise [4:05:10] your hand icon. [4:05:11] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT [4:05:11] All right. [4:05:17] Thank you. [4:05:17] So when you get a chance to [4:05:18] settle in, please introduce [4:05:20] yourselves for the record and [4:05:21] let us know how much time you [4:05:33] need So good afternoon. [4:05:33] Council PRESIDENT Council [4:05:34] Members I'm Julie Roscoe, [4:05:35] director of Human Resources and [4:05:40] with me here today is Abby Dahl [4:05:41] ls Deputy Director for Human [4:05:41] Resources. [4:05:42] Also with us today is Code [4:05:45] Advisor from the mayor's office [4:05:46] Rolando Chavez Chief Financial [4:05:46] Officer Tom Brady from the city [4:05:51] Attorney's office, Cornell [4:05:52] Allen from Risk Management who [4:05:53] will be joining us virtually. [4:05:54] We have Christy Davis here from [4:05:57] Personnel. [4:05:58] She's here in person and and [4:05:58] Sally Ruby and Luis Mateos from [4:05:59] the Department of Finance who [4:06:02] will also be joining virtually [4:06:03] We are here today to present [4:06:04] the amendment to the fiscal [4:06:07] year 2027 salary ordinance. [4:06:08] Our presentation will take [4:06:13] approximately seven minutes And [4:06:13] with that I'll turn it over to [4:06:14] Jared Belts who will watch [4:06:15] the presentation. [4:06:18] Thank you. [4:06:19] So as a reminder we we let you [4:06:24] know that on MAY 19th we will [4:06:25] be returning with an amendment [4:06:26] to the salary ordinance once [4:06:26] we've reached agreement with [4:06:29] our recognized employer. [4:06:30] In addition, we have now [4:06:31] reached agreement with our [4:06:31] Municipal Employees Association [4:06:32] or Deputy City Attorneys [4:06:36] Association and Local 127 So [4:06:37] we're going to walk you through [4:06:38] the changes as a result of [4:06:42] the implementation other than [4:06:42] we'll use for fiscal year 27 [4:06:43] and then also for [4:06:44] the unrepresented and then with [4:06:48] an update for the automobile [4:06:49] loan for the accessory use that [4:06:54] were reached that you approved [4:06:54] earlier this morning for Natca [4:06:58] Local 127 for fiscal year 27 [4:07:01] there's a 2% general wage [4:07:02] increase effective JULY 1 to [4:07:03] 2026 for any abc and Local 127 [4:07:07] There's also an equity [4:07:08] adjustment one equity [4:07:08] adjustment of 1.5% effective [4:07:12] JULY 1st, 2026 for the Deputy [4:07:13] City Attorney classification [4:07:16] The dca two grade of that [4:07:17] classification and to address [4:07:22] the cost saving issues of our [4:07:23] concessions and cost saving [4:07:24] measures for those increases [4:07:24] for general salary increases [4:07:29] and the equity adjustments for [4:07:30] the 83 and 127 the three at [4:07:30] recognized implementations [4:07:34] agreed to implement an unpaid [4:07:35] mandatory furlough of 40 hours [4:07:38] which is effective JULY 1st of [4:07:39] 2026. [4:07:39] There are some exceptions to [4:07:40] that There are all dispatcher [4:07:44] classification and nine [4:07:45] classifications within [4:07:46] the Environmental Services [4:07:46] Department are excluded from [4:07:49] the mandatory furlough program [4:07:49] . [4:07:50] There's also additional 46 [4:07:51] classifications that were [4:07:55] permitted the opportunity to [4:07:56] vote to opt out of [4:07:57] the mandatory furlough program. [4:07:57] Any of those employees who did [4:08:01] not participate in [4:08:02] the mandatory furlough program [4:08:03] in exchange of not having this [4:08:06] 40 hours will not receive [4:08:06] the 24 hours of discretionary [4:08:07] leave in lieu of that of [4:08:08] the hourly nonstandard [4:08:11] employees are not are excluded [4:08:12] from the mandatory furlough [4:08:12] program. [4:08:16] We are still in good faith [4:08:17] negotiations with our local 145 [4:08:21] local 96 and we recognize [4:08:22] the employer in his actions [4:08:23] once we have reached agreement [4:08:26] with those recognized employer [4:08:27] organizations we will return [4:08:28] again to amend the salary [4:08:28] ordinance to update the salary [4:08:31] tables based on those [4:08:31] agreements for our [4:08:32] unrepresented employees. [4:08:36] Now that we have reached [4:08:41] agreement with mta for [4:08:41] the general salary and wage [4:08:42] increase, the Mayor is making [4:08:42] recommendation of a 2% [4:08:42] effective the last day of [4:08:46] the fiscal year on JUNE 30th of [4:08:46] 2027. [4:08:47] The reason for that is [4:08:47] unrepresented employees are not [4:08:51] participating in the mandatory [4:08:51] furlough program. [4:08:52] So the 2% general salary [4:08:53] increase which is proposed to [4:08:56] address connection issues will [4:08:57] not go into effect until [4:08:59] the last day of the fiscal year [4:09:04] on 27. [4:09:05] There are some exceptions for [4:09:05] underrepresented as well [4:09:06] The city attorney is [4:09:09] recommending for unrepresented [4:09:10] deputies city attorney [4:09:10] classification that they [4:09:11] receive the same salary [4:09:15] increase consistent with those [4:09:16] that are received by the Deputy [4:09:16] City Attorney Association [4:09:20] represented employees for [4:09:21] fiscal year 27 which means they [4:09:24] would get the 2% JULY 1st of [4:09:25] 2026. [4:09:25] The interim classifications [4:09:26] which include intern, legal, [4:09:30] intern and senior legal intern [4:09:30] is not recommended to receive a [4:09:33] general salary increase for [4:09:34] fiscal year 27. [4:09:35] Also we have unrepresented and [4:09:39] unclassified sworn police and [4:09:40] fire department employees. [4:09:41] It's recommended that their [4:09:44] salary increases be consistent [4:09:45] with those reached by any [4:09:50] approved mou for Poway and 145 [4:09:50] respectively. [4:09:51] That's based on the fact that [4:09:51] they supervise those [4:09:54] individuals. [4:09:55] Also there's an exception for [4:09:55] the police chief and the fire [4:09:56] chief. [4:09:58] It's recommended that they [4:09:59] receive the 2% increase with [4:10:00] the other end represented on [4:10:03] the last day of the fiscal year [4:10:04] to be in line with the other [4:10:04] chief officers that are [4:10:08] unrepresented as well. [4:10:08] The Marine safety captain is a [4:10:09] classified and represented [4:10:14] sworn lifeguard classification [4:10:14] and it's recommended that they [4:10:15] receive the salary increase [4:10:18] consistent with those received [4:10:19] by any approved local 96 mou [4:10:23] which has not occurred yet. [4:10:24] Those are the wages. [4:10:25] Another update to the salary [4:10:28] ordinance as well as [4:10:29] modification to the automobile [4:10:30] allowance Based on input from [4:10:33] the city council the mayor does [4:10:33] regular recommendation for an [4:10:34] exception to Exhibit f for [4:10:36] fiscal year 27. [4:10:37] The mayor will not provide a [4:10:38] monthly automobile allowance to [4:10:41] the Chief of staff and deputy [4:10:42] chief of staff. [4:10:42] With that we'd like to [4:10:46] acknowledge the work from all [4:10:47] the departments that [4:10:48] participate in the salary [4:10:48] ordinance including [4:10:49] the Department of Finance, [4:10:52] Department of Information [4:10:52] Technology, our office, [4:10:53] the Office of the City [4:10:53] Attorney, the office of [4:10:56] the ada, the personnel [4:10:56] department and the risk [4:10:57] management department. [4:10:58] With that that concludes our [4:10:58] presentation and we're [4:11:02] available for any questions [4:11:02] that you MAY have. [4:11:03] >> Thank you. [4:11:03] All right. [4:11:04] Thank you for the presentation. [4:11:07] I believe the office of [4:11:07] the City attorney has a [4:11:08] correction. [4:11:08] >> For the record. [4:11:11] Thank you, Counsel. [4:11:12] PRESIDENT Our office discovered [4:11:13] a minor minor typographical [4:11:17] error in the ordinance which we [4:11:17] will correct after the meeting [4:11:21] And Tom Brady will explain [4:11:22] more. [4:11:22] >> Yes. [4:11:23] Good afternoon. [4:11:26] On page six, section eight of [4:11:27] the ordinance there's a [4:11:30] reference to the unclassified [4:11:31] service that needs to be [4:11:32] changed to the classified [4:11:38] service That's all. [4:11:38] All right. [4:11:39] I'll leave it to my colleagues [4:11:42] that they have any questions [4:11:43] But with that clerk please [4:11:43] proceed with public comment. [4:11:44] Thank you Council PRESIDENT If [4:11:47] we can have Maximilian Schmidt [4:11:48] please come forward. [4:11:49] Then after that is allegedly [4:11:56] addressed Hi. [4:12:01] >> I just wanted my First [4:12:02] Amendment right to be to speak [4:12:07] on this item to be heard And I [4:12:08] wanted to say that I'm opposed [4:12:11] to the salary increases and I [4:12:12] believe that there's problems [4:12:16] in the city that I'm small [4:12:17] salary cut from the city [4:12:21] employees could really help [4:12:21] with. [4:12:22] I'm homeless and I walk every [4:12:23] day from the 12th imperial [4:12:26] subway stop to the Alpha [4:12:27] Project Bridge shelter and on [4:12:31] that walk there's so much trash [4:12:31] where you literally have to [4:12:32] kick through it And this is [4:12:33] every single day and you could [4:12:36] pay someone the minimum wage to [4:12:37] just pick up the trash and it [4:12:40] really wouldn't be too [4:12:41] expensive Or you could put [4:12:41] trash cans on that street and [4:12:42] if we don't have enough money [4:12:45] for it, maybe a small solid [4:12:49] maybe a small decrease in [4:12:50] salary could allow us to get [4:12:51] enough money for that. [4:12:51] And also I wanted to say [4:12:54] something else concerning [4:12:55] the salary increase to [4:12:56] the Environmental Services [4:12:56] Department. [4:12:59] Some people MAY call this a [4:13:00] conspiracy but in California [4:13:05] there's actually a ten year [4:13:06] plan laid out to try to [4:13:09] subsidize subsidize green [4:13:14] energy even more to try to [4:13:15] increase taxes on the people of [4:13:18] California to try to make them [4:13:19] intentionally more poor by [4:13:20] increasing property tax, [4:13:24] increasing sales tax and to [4:13:24] intentionally take the money [4:13:29] from the people in this giant [4:13:30] plot to create to make [4:13:33] Americans actually poorer. [4:13:34] And they MAY say we want to [4:13:35] subsidize green energy to try [4:13:37] and help the planet. [4:13:38] We're sorry that your taxes [4:13:39] went up but the truth is what [4:13:42] if they're overexaggerating [4:13:43] the climate to try to raise [4:13:47] taxes to try to bring in [4:13:48] tyranny, to try to bring in [4:13:48] the new world order to try to [4:13:51] create a one world government, [4:13:52] why would they do that? [4:13:52] Because evil exists And if [4:13:56] they've done a pagan ritual to [4:13:57] make them telepathic, there [4:13:57] could be Satan could be [4:13:58] commanding them to make a one [4:14:01] world government and do that [4:14:02] allegedly If you can please [4:14:10] come forward. [4:14:11] >> They are overexaggerating it [4:14:15] Max. [4:14:16] You're right about that. [4:14:16] Oh my gosh. [4:14:17] I thought you guys said 27 [4:14:17] minutes. [4:14:20] I was like we're in a listen to [4:14:20] this for 27 minutes. [4:14:24] I really was like wow. [4:14:25] So thank you for doing that [4:14:25] Quickly Any who with salaries [4:14:29] it's like of course everybody [4:14:30] wants a raise. [4:14:30] >> Right? [4:14:33] And it used to be on like [4:14:33] the merits of what you did in [4:14:37] your job and like how your [4:14:38] excelling in your going above [4:14:39] and beyond like what you need [4:14:43] to do to make sure that you're, [4:14:44] you know, doing your job well [4:14:45] And now it's just like in a [4:14:48] group you know what? [4:14:49] Screw it. [4:14:49] Let's just give them all a [4:14:50] raise. [4:14:50] That's what happens. [4:14:51] And it's unfortunate because [4:14:54] people like Max or you know, [4:14:54] whoever it's like they're [4:14:55] homeless and they're just [4:14:56] trying to survive And it's like [4:14:58] your money's going to go to [4:14:59] give somebody else a raise. [4:15:00] They're going to be able to go [4:15:03] get their yacht you know, pay [4:15:03] payment on their Ferrari, you [4:15:07] know, or just their home Right [4:15:08] . [4:15:08] >> That has more than just [4:15:12] the tent size, you know, space [4:15:13] that you gave people intensity. [4:15:14] I mean good thing for those [4:15:17] lawsuits, right? [4:15:17] Leslie? [4:15:18] I know federal lawsuits doesn't [4:15:21] look good but anyway, yeah, [4:15:22] let's give people raises, [4:15:22] right? [4:15:23] >> And as a group let's just do [4:15:27] it like all of you guys Like [4:15:27] let's just go ahead and give [4:15:30] you another $100,000, right? [4:15:31] I mean because at some point it [4:15:31] would be nice if you guys were [4:15:34] like Listen, we really care [4:15:35] about the people in our [4:15:36] community and we're willing to [4:15:36] take a pay cut. [4:15:40] I'm willing to you know, say [4:15:40] that I don't need to go get [4:15:41] Starbucks today and I'm willing [4:15:44] to give that back to the people [4:15:45] that I represent that I'm [4:15:46] sitting here and saying and I'm [4:15:49] making their lives better. [4:15:50] Oh, will you have people come [4:15:51] in And again you guys walk over [4:15:54] these people when you leave [4:15:55] here at night I mean not like [4:15:56] during the day like if we leave [4:15:59] in the next like couple of [4:16:00] hours you're not going to see [4:16:00] them. [4:16:01] >> But when it becomes [4:16:05] nighttime and they're there we [4:16:05] just walk right over them. [4:16:06] But good thing you guys got a [4:16:09] raise or whoever in the you [4:16:10] know city is good. [4:16:15] >> It's good start of the five [4:16:16] minute time we're going to [4:16:17] those participating remotely. [4:16:17] >> Blair McMahan if you can [4:16:25] please unmute all right We're [4:16:26] big fan and thank you for this [4:16:28] item here. [4:16:29] >> I'm an experienced about [4:16:33] thinking I don't have an [4:16:34] experience in how to think and [4:16:37] think about issues of savvy [4:16:37] ordinance issues how how that [4:16:42] balance can be So but I'm [4:16:47] trying to learn and I'm I'm [4:16:48] definitely trying to learn to [4:16:52] respect that you know salary [4:16:52] rate increases for city [4:16:53] employees is important and it's [4:16:56] definitely morale boosting. [4:16:57] I've been listening to Oakland [4:17:01] items lately and my gosh, they [4:17:02] want to like have their [4:17:06] employee pay for their own [4:17:07] health care and retirement [4:17:07] fund. [4:17:11] Can you imagine in that I mean [4:17:12] I heard that and I was just [4:17:13] like that is going to cause [4:17:16] the morale issue And I was [4:17:17] surprised, you know, so they [4:17:22] really have to they're doing [4:17:22] their things to have to tighten [4:17:23] up their budget too. [4:17:26] And they're asking their [4:17:27] employees to pay the bill to [4:17:27] foot the bill. [4:17:31] Wow. [4:17:31] Wow. [4:17:32] So I think that's a little [4:17:36] strong And and I think there's [4:17:37] ways they're trying to figure [4:17:41] out ways to work that out. [4:17:41] But guess what? [4:17:42] Guess why they're doing it [4:17:42] Because they want their social [4:17:45] services and the people their [4:17:46] community to have the social [4:17:50] services they need And that I [4:17:51] hope can be incentive for [4:17:55] yourselves to understand what [4:17:56] we're really what really being [4:18:00] worked on in Oakland and [4:18:01] the belief system involved And [4:18:05] it really takes dedication. [4:18:06] >> I mean we're we are a very [4:18:10] slick, large efficient city and [4:18:11] i just hope we learn how to [4:18:15] take practices to heart of and [4:18:16] practice the heart and good [4:18:16] luck how we can be doing that [4:18:20] The salary ordinance items and [4:18:20] such as the explanations I've [4:18:21] described before Thank you [4:18:24] Thank you. [4:18:25] That does include public [4:18:29] comment for this item I All [4:18:29] right. [4:18:30] >> Thank you City Clerk I'll [4:18:31] turn it over to my colleagues [4:18:35] for any questions, comments and [4:18:35] entertain a motion and we'll go [4:18:39] again to Councilmember Eli [4:18:40] Rivera, the council PRESIDENT. [4:18:45] I'll move approval All right. [4:18:47] And council PRESIDENT Pro tem [4:18:48] leave now for a second. [4:18:49] All right. [4:18:49] So we have a motion by council [4:18:53] member Eli Rivera, a second by [4:18:53] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee [4:18:58] to move the staff recommends [4:18:58] motion. [4:18:59] I'll just thank you for [4:18:59] the good work and clerk Please [4:19:00] call the roll. [4:19:01] I started the voting system. [4:19:15] >> Please cast your vote That [4:19:16] passes unanimously 6 to 0 with [4:19:20] council member Von Wilpert, [4:19:21] Council member Whitburn and [4:19:22] Council member Campbell Absent [4:19:23] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All [4:19:23] right. [4:19:24] >> Thank you and thank you for [4:19:27] the work. [4:19:31] And with that please introduce [4:19:32] item 330. [4:19:32] >> Item three 30 is to [4:19:33] authorize the award and [4:19:37] execution of a sole source [4:19:37] contract with Adam Air [4:19:38] Solutions Inc. [4:19:41] Six votes are required pursuant [4:19:41] to Charter section 99. [4:19:45] If you'd like to speak on this [4:19:46] item please be sure to meet [4:19:47] your speakers up to the front [4:19:47] of the room or if you're [4:19:50] participating remotely now's [4:19:51] the time to raise your hand by [4:19:52] pressing Star nine or the raise [4:19:52] your hand icon. [4:19:56] Thank you Council PRESIDENT. [4:19:56] All right. [4:19:56] Thank you. [4:19:57] This is another one of those [4:19:59] direct docketed items because [4:20:00] 80 I did not meet So with that [4:20:01] staff as you settle in please [4:20:04] introduce yourself for [4:20:05] the record and let us know how [4:20:06] much time you need. [4:20:06] >> Good afternoon. [4:20:10] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and [4:20:10] members of the Council. [4:20:11] My name is Patrick, our interim [4:20:14] Deputy director with [4:20:15] the Transportation Department [4:20:15] And with me today is Chelsea [4:20:19] Glacier's Deputy director with [4:20:20] the Transportation Department. [4:20:20] Our presentation takes about [4:20:21] five minutes. [4:20:24] All right, when you're ready. [4:20:28] Item 330 is a direct docket to [4:20:29] the city council like you just [4:20:29] mentioned Due to [4:20:30] the adjournment of the MAY 80th [4:20:33] committee and requests [4:20:34] the authority to award and [4:20:35] execute a ten year sole source [4:20:36] contract with Adam Ice [4:20:41] Solutions Inc. [4:20:42] Our presentation will begin [4:20:42] with an overview of the current [4:20:46] contract and look ahead to [4:20:47] the proposed new ten year [4:20:47] agreement. [4:20:48] We will then discuss [4:20:51] the factors that led to [4:20:52] the city to pursue a sole [4:20:52] source procurement approach [4:20:53] before providing a deeper [4:20:56] overview of the dot maps. [4:20:57] Application is functionality [4:21:01] and a critical role It plays in [4:21:01] supporting the city's project [4:21:02] delivery. [4:21:02] The current five year agreement [4:21:07] was execu rated in 2021 and is [4:21:07] set to expire this month. [4:21:10] The contract has a total value [4:21:14] of $649,000 or about $130,000 [4:21:15] annually. [4:21:15] The proposed new agreement [4:21:20] would establish a new ten year [4:21:23] contract with an annual cost of [4:21:24] $125,000 for the first five [4:21:27] years and $145,000 for [4:21:28] the remaining five years for a [4:21:31] total contract value of 1.35 [4:21:31] million. [4:21:32] As shown on this table in [4:21:36] the slide, why is this [4:21:41] agreement being proposed as a [4:21:42] sole source contract? [4:21:42] Dot maps is a proprietary [4:21:46] software owned and licensed [4:21:46] exclusively by Adam Air making [4:21:51] it unavailable through any [4:21:51] other vendor. [4:21:52] Over the past several years [4:21:55] the platform has become deeply [4:21:56] integrated into the city's [4:21:57] business processes, data [4:22:00] structures and connected [4:22:01] systems serving as a critical [4:22:02] tool for project delivery and [4:22:05] service coordination. [4:22:06] Today approximately 1000 city [4:22:11] users rely on dot maps to [4:22:11] perform the daily work [4:22:12] replacing the platform which [4:22:15] requires significant [4:22:15] redevelopment extensive [4:22:16] customization. [4:22:20] Staff retraining and complex [4:22:20] data migration efforts [4:22:24] resulting in substantial cost [4:22:25] operational disruption and [4:22:26] implementation risk. [4:22:30] Given the software's proven [4:22:30] performance mature integrations [4:22:31] and importance to maintaining [4:22:35] service continuity. [4:22:35] Continuing with the existing [4:22:36] platform is the most practical [4:22:40] and cost effective option. [4:22:41] The proposed ten year agreement [4:22:44] also provides long term [4:22:45] operational stability, [4:22:46] predictable costs and a reduced [4:22:49] risk for the city. [4:22:50] With this I hand it over to [4:22:51] Chelsea to go over the dot maps [4:22:54] application in more detail. [4:22:55] >> Good afternoon. [4:22:59] As you all know this is our [4:23:00] citywide project coordination [4:23:00] system. [4:23:04] It helps do project [4:23:05] coordination as well as be a [4:23:05] project finder. [4:23:09] We have internal facing [4:23:10] application as well as a public [4:23:14] facing application like Patrick [4:23:15] mentioned, we integrate data [4:23:15] from a number of city sources [4:23:19] throughout the development [4:23:20] services engineering capital [4:23:24] projects, transportation, [4:23:25] public utilities, stormwater [4:23:25] special events and external [4:23:29] utilities. [4:23:30] There was extension extensive [4:23:34] customization and the end [4:23:34] result is being able to see [4:23:41] everything on one on one map. [4:23:42] The reason why this matters is [4:23:43] because the city of San Diego [4:23:46] has a strong commitment to both [4:23:47] our street preservation [4:23:51] ordinance as well as well as a [4:23:51] one tick policy. [4:23:52] From an internal perspective [4:23:55] this map identifies those [4:23:56] conflicts and opportunities to [4:23:59] coordinate very early in [4:24:00] the process. [4:24:00] By doing that it saves money, [4:24:04] time and resources that don't [4:24:09] end up as real time conflicts [4:24:10] While people are trying to [4:24:11] excavate from a public facing [4:24:15] perspective. [4:24:15] It has improvements to our [4:24:19] customer experience including [4:24:20] being able to see this [4:24:24] information real time on a [4:24:25] public facing map If you're a [4:24:26] resident as well as some [4:24:29] notifications and options that [4:24:30] you could be you know, put in [4:24:34] your address, make a little box [4:24:35] around it. [4:24:35] And any project that's going to [4:24:39] be coming up in your area, it [4:24:40] will notify you ahead of time [4:24:40] to minimize disruptions. [4:24:44] So in general these this is an [4:24:44] extremely important platform [4:24:48] for the city And I will pass it [4:24:53] back over to Patrick. [4:24:53] Thank you, Chelsea. [4:24:54] That concludes our [4:24:54] presentations. [4:24:58] We are happy to answer any [4:24:58] questions. [4:24:58] All right. [4:24:59] Thank you very much for [4:24:59] the presentation. [4:25:02] Clerk Please proceed with [4:25:03] public comment. [4:25:03] >> Thank you. [4:25:04] Maximilian Schmidt If you can [4:25:04] please come up to [4:25:08] the microphone after that is [4:25:08] allegedly Audra and then Troy [4:25:16] Senator. [4:25:22] >> Hi My name is Mark Schmidt [4:25:23] and I just want to say that I'm [4:25:27] being persecuted by Freemason [4:25:28] and I don't know if it's [4:25:29] because I'm Catholic if if it's [4:25:31] because I do grassroots [4:25:32] activism or what but I've also [4:25:36] done a lot of act activism [4:25:37] against Freemasonry especially [4:25:41] in Washington dc and to give a [4:25:42] special award to a software [4:25:46] company is a um hurts my [4:25:47] feelings in a way because [4:25:51] computer software is one of [4:25:52] the way ways that um Freemasons [4:25:55] target me where if I'm looking [4:25:59] at my phone and let's just say [4:26:00] i'm sending someone a text [4:26:05] message on my phone as I send [4:26:05] the message a voice will come [4:26:10] out of my phone on harassing me [4:26:10] and it's state sponsored [4:26:14] harassment via I and via [4:26:15] computer softwares and [4:26:19] Freemasons can do that They can [4:26:20] target people with ai and I [4:26:24] feel like on that just it's [4:26:25] just unfortunate that we're [4:26:29] giving the special award to [4:26:30] this software company when we [4:26:34] don't talk about maybe nowhere [4:26:35] in public is that even found on [4:26:39] the Internet that Freemasons [4:26:44] used not only media and tv to [4:26:45] try to brainwash people to be [4:26:46] liberals but if you do lots of [4:26:49] grassroots activism um against [4:26:50] Freemasonry they'll even use [4:26:54] technology to harass you And um [4:26:58] it's becoming a problem And [4:26:59] unfortunately it's sad to say [4:27:03] that communism exist in America [4:27:04] and they're using ai to do it. [4:27:09] Um they're also telepathic like [4:27:09] from doing human sacrifices in [4:27:10] the Masonic Lodge So they also [4:27:14] can say your thoughts out loud [4:27:14] and mess with you [4:27:18] telepathically But ai is also [4:27:19] being used to target patriots [4:27:19] and it's a problem. [4:27:22] >> Thank you. [4:27:32] >> Allegedly Andre Air is [4:27:37] definitely going to be used for [4:27:37] the New World Order and [4:27:38] bringing in the antichrist. [4:27:38] We'll get into that later [4:27:42] However Ah this is very [4:27:43] dangerous and I keep talking [4:27:47] about it because of course [4:27:47] there's a monopoly on this type [4:27:48] of software so it's like you [4:27:49] have to go and get a single [4:27:52] source procurement for it. [4:27:52] They're the only ones that [4:27:57] provide it and you know it's [4:27:57] like air is very dangerous. [4:27:58] The people that create it even [4:28:01] talk about that how it can be [4:28:02] weaponized, how it hallucinates [4:28:03] I mean it can give you false [4:28:06] information And to say that [4:28:07] the customer experience is [4:28:11] better because of it I highly [4:28:12] doubt that because it's like we [4:28:15] you can call in and talk to a [4:28:16] lot even to the police and it's [4:28:20] like you could tell I need to [4:28:21] speak to this department and it [4:28:22] will tell you that apartment [4:28:26] doesn't exist And then you call [4:28:26] in and then you speak to like [4:28:27] an actual technician and [4:28:27] they're like Yeah, let me [4:28:30] transfer you. [4:28:31] So all I'm saying is like let's [4:28:32] not sugarcoat it and act like [4:28:36] this stuff is like going to be [4:28:36] beneficial. [4:28:37] I mean on the surface it looks [4:28:40] good because it's like yeah it [4:28:40] makes things easier but how [4:28:41] many jobs are people losing [4:28:45] because you are taking away [4:28:45] their ability to, you know, do [4:28:49] that part of the job Like [4:28:50] whatever information that it's [4:28:51] collecting. [4:28:51] I'm not sure where my notes are [4:28:55] on that And you know, just [4:28:55] making sure that I mean because [4:29:00] that's what happens people to [4:29:01] say oh, it's not going to take [4:29:01] any jobs. [4:29:02] It's going to make things [4:29:02] easier. [4:29:04] We're going to save money. [4:29:05] You know, in reality it's going [4:29:06] to cost us a buttload of money. [4:29:07] It's going to take all our [4:29:10] power, our fresh water because [4:29:10] these data centers need our [4:29:14] fresh water while we get our [4:29:14] sewage back. [4:29:15] How cool is that And the fact [4:29:19] that it's we're giving our data [4:29:20] to people like BlackRock and [4:29:23] Vanguard again it's like we [4:29:24] worry about these corporations [4:29:25] and but it's like you guys [4:29:28] willingly are giving all of [4:29:28] this information about very [4:29:29] critical stuff to people that [4:29:33] have nefarious intentions. [4:29:36] >> So what would you and yada [4:29:41] if you can please come forward [4:29:41] . [4:29:42] Okay First of all I want to go [4:29:46] to work for Chelsea in [4:29:46] transportation. [4:29:50] She gets five stars for helping [4:29:51] me this afternoon And of course [4:29:54] I love transportation All [4:29:54] around. [4:29:55] So thank you. [4:29:55] Okay. [4:30:00] So yes to the Adam Air I [4:30:05] contract ten years is okay yet [4:30:05] I am sure with tech [4:30:10] exponentially speeding up that [4:30:10] tech services will need to be [4:30:14] updated every moment. [4:30:15] That's an exaggeration but I [4:30:19] know you understand that. [4:30:24] So Adam I owns the platform [4:30:24] that the city has customized [4:30:29] and to be honest with you I [4:30:29] love this item. [4:30:30] It makes such a difference when [4:30:31] you talk to the department [4:30:34] That's handling it because she [4:30:35] got me to see just absolutely [4:30:38] the whole big picture of it and [4:30:39] it's pretty darn wonderful. [4:30:43] So let's see here. [4:30:44] I don't want to MISS Out here. [4:30:48] So I did that Excuse me What? [4:30:52] Why It matters Six items Mac [4:30:53] minimizes I think it's a good [4:30:57] minimize integrated public [4:30:58] facing internal facing and [4:30:58] saves money. [4:31:02] We'll take that any time we can [4:31:03] get it So and they have this [4:31:07] wonderful thing called conflict [4:31:07] ordination. [4:31:08] I hope I got that right, [4:31:09] Chelsea But anyway it reminds [4:31:12] me of when I was a therapist [4:31:13] and the pharmacies weren't [4:31:17] gathering everything together [4:31:18] so that everybody knew what [4:31:18] prescriptions were going to [4:31:19] this one person that I was [4:31:22] handling as a client. [4:31:23] So now this thing this conflict [4:31:26] ordination brings all of it [4:31:27] together So projects are not, [4:31:28] you know, bouncing all over [4:31:32] the place and not coordinating [4:31:32] with other kind and causing [4:31:33] conflict and risk. [4:31:34] So Chelsea I think that's [4:31:37] pretty fabulous On that [4:31:38] underrepresentation in Latino [4:31:42] female in a and I science [4:31:49] computer and sales no for that [4:31:50] concluding including that they [4:31:50] said they filed it thank you [4:31:51] thank you that took five minute [4:31:52] timer has started Blair Beckman [4:32:01] if you can please unmute Blair [4:32:05] Brickman I can hear me for you [4:32:05] . [4:32:06] >> Hi there. [4:32:07] Beckman Can you hear me? [4:32:10] Yes, Please proceed. [4:32:11] >> Thank you. [4:32:11] Sorry about that. [4:32:12] Hi. [4:32:12] Thank you. [4:32:12] Yeah. [4:32:15] Put this item I noticed [4:32:18] the mighty words one more time [4:32:19] that this is a ten year [4:32:20] contract and I just been seeing [4:32:23] those words a lot is how you [4:32:24] been doing the contract process [4:32:24] lately? [4:32:28] I'm a bit concerned by that. [4:32:29] >> It's a long, long time and [4:32:33] I'm just questioning It's as a [4:32:36] way to practice. [4:32:37] I think five years is a lot [4:32:38] more reasonable and it's [4:32:38] certainly a long time. [4:32:42] It's well a five year contract. [4:32:43] i like the ten year contract [4:32:47] idea in that it describes [4:32:48] the concepts of planning in and [4:32:52] how a ways that we really plan [4:32:53] out our future and how we [4:32:57] create ourselves. [4:32:58] I think it's very good for that [4:32:58] and I wish it. [4:33:01] Council We talked a lot, lot [4:33:05] more and more broad terms of 5 [4:33:06] to 10 years and 2 to 5 years. [4:33:07] We have to do everything on [4:33:11] the fly and just at the spur of [4:33:12] the moment and it gets kind of [4:33:15] tiring and it makes [4:33:16] conversations limited Overall [4:33:16] we lack depth in how to talk [4:33:20] about how to see a larger [4:33:21] picture and making choices and [4:33:24] decision making. [4:33:25] So I like that these contracts [4:33:29] are at a ten year point at some [4:33:30] and in some ways these types of [4:33:34] contracts are usually reserved [4:33:34] for military it's my [4:33:35] understanding. [4:33:38] >> And so you get a sense of [4:33:39] it's conservative value and [4:33:39] nature and you know, [4:33:44] predictions and tendencies. [4:33:44] >> So in a way it's good. [4:33:48] I'm just a bit worried about it [4:33:49] overall but I like the idea [4:33:53] that we can talk in more a [4:33:54] broader sense about our long [4:33:54] term planning for our [4:33:58] communities. [4:33:59] How can we do that more here at [4:33:59] the everyday level in council [4:34:00] meetings? [4:34:03] I hope we can do that or that's [4:34:04] just all my thoughts and [4:34:04] feelings on this item. [4:34:07] Thanks for your patience. [4:34:08] >> Thank you. [4:34:08] That does conclude public [4:34:09] comment on this item. [4:34:09] All right. [4:34:12] Thank you. [4:34:13] City Clerk We'll turn it over [4:34:13] to council for questions [4:34:14] Comments Entertain a motion and [4:34:16] we'll start with council member [4:34:17] Campbell Thank you so much. [4:34:18] >> Just just to see if I have [4:34:22] this correctly, I remember a [4:34:22] few years back when we didn't [4:34:27] coordinate these things and we [4:34:27] ended up having one utility [4:34:28] tearing up the street another [4:34:32] coming in week later tearing it [4:34:32] up again. [4:34:33] And what this does is makes [4:34:37] that much better. [4:34:38] We coordinate all the tearing [4:34:41] up to try to occur at one time [4:34:41] So when we fix the street [4:34:45] afterwards it stays fixed. [4:34:46] So this has helped tremendously [4:34:46] and I really appreciate it. [4:34:49] Unfortunately this is the only [4:34:50] company that provides that but [4:34:54] unfortunately in that some [4:34:55] times most of the time [4:34:55] competition brings a decrease [4:34:59] in price. [4:35:00] However this price is very [4:35:03] reasonable a 1.35 million over [4:35:04] a ten year period for all this [4:35:05] software. [4:35:08] So I am very happy to make [4:35:09] the motion that we accept [4:35:09] staff's recommendation. [4:35:13] Thank you. [4:35:13] All right. [4:35:14] Thank you. [4:35:14] Council members, we do have a [4:35:15] motion by Councilmember [4:35:16] Campbell to move the staff [4:35:19] recommendation and not oh [4:35:20] Councilmember Whitburn jumps in [4:35:21] there with a second on [4:35:22] the motion not seeing anybody [4:35:26] on the lights. [4:35:27] We have a motion by council [4:35:28] member Campbell to move [4:35:28] the staff recommendation [4:35:31] seconded by Council member [4:35:32] Whitburn. [4:35:32] >> The Clerk Please call [4:35:33] the roll I'm sorry at [4:35:33] the voting system please cast [4:35:41] your vote that passes unanimous [4:35:42] 8 to 0 with Council member Von [4:35:42] Wilpert absent. [4:35:43] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All [4:35:46] right. [4:35:46] Thank you. [4:35:46] Step out. [4:35:47] I'll do it. [4:35:50] Okay. [4:35:51] >> So with that please [4:35:55] introduce item 331 Item 331 is [4:35:55] the second amendment to the as [4:35:59] needed to transportation [4:36:00] Engineering Services agreement [4:36:03] with Kimberly Hawn and [4:36:03] Associates h1869856 votes are [4:36:08] required pursuant to Charter [4:36:08] section 99. [4:36:09] If you'd like to speak to this [4:36:10] item please be sure to raise [4:36:13] your hand by pressing star nine [4:36:13] or the raise your hand icon. [4:36:14] Thank you Council PRESIDENT All [4:36:14] right. [4:36:15] Thank you. [4:36:18] And I see staff you've settled [4:36:18] in. [4:36:19] Please introduce yourselves for [4:36:20] the record and let us know how [4:36:22] much time you need. [4:36:27] All right. [4:36:28] We five minutes should be good [4:36:28] for us. [4:36:29] My name is Carrie Purcell. [4:36:29] Good afternoon. [4:36:32] Council PRESIDENT, Council [4:36:32] members. [4:36:33] We're happy to be here today. [4:36:34] My name is Carrie Purcell. [4:36:36] I'm a deputy director with [4:36:37] Engineering Capital Projects [4:36:38] Department Program Project [4:36:42] Development Division. [4:36:43] And with me today is Michael [4:36:43] Ramirez. [4:36:44] He's a senior civil engineer. [4:36:47] Our our section is responsible [4:36:47] for managing the as needed [4:36:51] engineering agreements with for [4:36:52] our department. [4:36:53] We're here today to ask for [4:36:57] council approval to be able to [4:36:57] approve a Second Amendment to [4:37:02] our housing to transportation [4:37:03] with Kelly Horne and Associates [4:37:05] for an additional 36 months. [4:37:06] We also have staff available [4:37:10] from the project teams If there [4:37:11] are project specific questions [4:37:12] related to the project tasks [4:37:12] that are being extended for [4:37:15] time. [4:37:16] So with that I would like to [4:37:17] turn it over to Michael Ramirez [4:37:21] to give you the details of that [4:37:21] request. [4:37:21] >> Thank you. [4:37:22] Thank you, Carrie. [4:37:23] My name is Michael Ramirez, [4:37:23] Senior Civil Engineering with [4:37:26] the engineering Capital [4:37:27] Projects. [4:37:27] I will be presenting the item [4:37:28] 331. [4:37:32] Like Carrie mentioned is a [4:37:33] Second Amendment to an extended [4:37:34] transportation contract with [4:37:36] Kimberly and Horton Associates [4:37:36] . [4:37:37] >> This request is to authorize [4:37:41] a Second Amendment to extend [4:37:41] the contract duration for [4:37:42] additional 36 months from [4:37:46] the 24 months that was approved [4:37:47] to the Firstst Amendment. [4:37:47] This would be a total of 60 [4:37:48] months from the original [4:37:51] contract execution. [4:37:52] It is a no cost time extension [4:37:55] to complete to test out of [4:37:55] the eight tests that were [4:37:56] approved from the First [4:38:00] Amendment. [4:38:00] A little background. [4:38:04] The original contract was [4:38:05] executed on AUGUST 23rd, 2019 [4:38:08] for an amount of $5 million [4:38:09] with a five year duration. [4:38:12] There were a total of 22 test [4:38:13] every issue during those five [4:38:13] years. [4:38:14] A First Amendment for a no cost [4:38:18] time extension was executed on [4:38:19] AUGUST 2nd, 2024, which [4:38:22] extended the duration of eight [4:38:22] test for an additional 24 [4:38:23] months. [4:38:28] As previously mentioned, this [4:38:28] contract meant the Second [4:38:29] Amendment would add an [4:38:29] additional 36 months needed to [4:38:33] complete to the test. [4:38:34] Out of the eight tests that [4:38:35] were approved from the First [4:38:36] Amendment, the new expiration [4:38:40] would be AUGUST 2020 nine. [4:38:41] >> So the first project is [4:38:47] the Kensington. [4:38:48] During the first case it is [4:38:50] located in District nine [4:38:51] Mid-City. [4:38:51] The scope includes a [4:38:52] replacement of sewer and storm [4:38:53] drains along with access way [4:38:59] within the Kenyon. [4:39:00] >> During the design phase, [4:39:00] additional environmental [4:39:01] requirements and coordination [4:39:02] efforts resulted in additional [4:39:04] scope including preparation of [4:39:05] traffic control, revegetation [4:39:06] plans and additional biological [4:39:10] survey efforts. [4:39:10] The project schedule as [4:39:11] expected was extended due to an [4:39:12] ongoing environmental review [4:39:15] Regulatory agency permitting [4:39:16] easement acquisition and court [4:39:17] and Caltrans encroachment [4:39:21] permit processing. [4:39:21] The project requires [4:39:22] environmental mitigation and [4:39:23] entitlement processing that are [4:39:27] associated with the impacts of [4:39:27] sensitive upland and wetland [4:39:28] vegetation including [4:39:29] the preparation of mitigated [4:39:33] negative declaration Site [4:39:33] development permit. [4:39:34] Updates to technical [4:39:34] environmental studies and [4:39:38] completion of resource agc [4:39:39] permitting which is currently [4:39:42] anticipated through JUNE 2027. [4:39:43] The other project is the Black [4:39:48] Mountain Reservoir Spillway. [4:39:49] It's located in District five. [4:39:49] The project scope is the design [4:39:53] and construction of an osha [4:39:54] compliant access stairway which [4:39:55] includes a chain link fence as [4:39:56] well as alteration to a gate [4:40:02] and ladder. [4:40:02] The design was completed last [4:40:03] year and the project is now [4:40:04] ready for construction. [4:40:08] We will need this consultant [4:40:09] through the construction phase [4:40:11] and as with preparation until [4:40:12] summer 2027. [4:40:13] As you can see on the screen [4:40:18] the equal opportunity this this [4:40:18] was subject to a 20% voluntary. [4:40:24] The achieved goal achieved we [4:40:25] achieved the 25% participation [4:40:30] which is above the goal. [4:40:31] >> Just to reiterate this [4:40:35] request is to authorize a [4:40:36] Second Amendment to extend [4:40:39] the contract duration for [4:40:40] additional 36 months For me for [4:40:40] the 24 months that was approved [4:40:41] in the First Amendment. [4:40:44] For a total of 60 months from [4:40:45] the original contract duration [4:40:45] to complete the two tests [4:40:49] discussed in this presentation [4:40:50] . [4:40:50] >> At this time we welcome any [4:40:51] questions you MAY have. [4:40:51] Thank you. [4:40:52] All right. [4:40:52] Thank you for the presentation. [4:40:55] Deputy Clerk Please proceed [4:40:56] with public comment. [4:40:56] Thank you. [4:40:57] Council PRESIDENT We'll begin [4:41:02] with in-person public comment. [4:41:02] Maximillian will be followed by [4:41:05] allegedly order to be followed [4:41:12] by Dawson to. [4:41:18] I just want to say that I'm [4:41:19] opposed to the Second Amendment [4:41:19] as needed Transportation [4:41:23] engineering Services agreement [4:41:24] with Kimberly Hawn Associates. [4:41:25] And the reason I'm the reason [4:41:30] I'm opposed to it is because I [4:41:36] have reason to believe that on [4:41:36] that city Council are [4:41:42] Freemasons and I'm opposed to [4:41:42] free Masons on being involved [4:41:47] with any of my tax dollars [4:41:47] period. [4:41:48] I do not want Freemasons [4:41:53] handling my tax dollars and [4:41:53] the reason why is because [4:41:54] Freemasons are also persecuting [4:42:00] me on believe it or not I'm not [4:42:01] crazy But when I walk down [4:42:05] the street on people say my [4:42:06] thoughts out loud and I believe [4:42:07] it's state sponsored because at [4:42:11] the homeless shelter which is [4:42:12] owned by the city I will also [4:42:13] get harassed there on I'm not [4:42:16] going to say if staff are [4:42:17] involved at the library where [4:42:22] the librarians are paid on with [4:42:23] our tax dollars I get harassed [4:42:24] by librarians on the trolley [4:42:29] where the trolley intercom is [4:42:30] paid is ran with our tax [4:42:30] dollars. [4:42:31] I get harassed on the trolley [4:42:31] and I get her out of [4:42:35] linguistics which is constantly [4:42:36] reading my mind and people are [4:42:37] constantly holding over my head [4:42:41] that they can read my mind And [4:42:42] I came in city council and city [4:42:42] council exposed to me that they [4:42:47] could read my mind and and [4:42:48] harass me with it. [4:42:48] It's called neuro linguistics [4:42:52] and everywhere I go I seem to [4:42:53] get harassed by people reading [4:42:58] my mind And it's Freemasons [4:42:59] doing it And I oppose On [4:43:05] the Freemasons handling our tax [4:43:06] our tax dollars And maybe when [4:43:06] everyone voted and elected [4:43:11] the council to office they [4:43:11] didn't know that they're [4:43:12] Freemasons. [4:43:12] But I'm here to expose to [4:43:13] the world that San Diego City [4:43:17] Council are all Freemasons. [4:43:17] >> Thank you. [4:43:18] That does conclude your time [4:43:28] allegedly order Jennifer did [4:43:29] you admit that your employees [4:43:35] are incompetent and you guys [4:43:35] can't make sure that you're not [4:43:36] ripping up the street twice [4:43:40] without a That is interesting [4:43:41] because obviously your project [4:43:41] coordinator and finder needs to [4:43:46] be because we don't need people [4:43:47] to do that we need to replace [4:43:52] their jobs with I love it to [4:43:57] two tasks are going to take an [4:43:58] extra 36 months right That's [4:43:58] interesting. [4:44:04] How much more is going to be [4:44:05] needed to complete one task in [4:44:09] 48 months Feel like we're going [4:44:10] to come back in like, you know, [4:44:15] 20 months and be like listen, [4:44:16] we need more time. [4:44:16] We need more time. [4:44:21] This is storm and sewer right? [4:44:22] Those things are not a [4:44:23] necessity I don't think I mean [4:44:23] we don't treat it like it [4:44:24] right? [4:44:28] I mean we need $5 billion storm [4:44:28] stop. [4:44:29] I think that's terrifying to [4:44:32] think about. [4:44:33] I mean and we have El Nino in [4:44:33] the wings. [4:44:38] You guys ready for this? [4:44:39] What are we going to do? [4:44:40] How many people are we going to [4:44:44] sue this time for being like [4:44:45] you guys aren't prepared right? [4:44:45] Make some money, make some [4:44:49] revenue for the city. [4:44:50] Right Because we're not [4:44:51] prepared So those people who [4:44:56] are too. [4:44:56] I mean they should have been [4:44:57] right. [4:44:57] It doesn't matter if you guys [4:44:58] take this money and put it [4:44:58] elsewhere. [4:45:01] I mean because you got your [4:45:01] environmental reviews, you know [4:45:02] all those things the permits, [4:45:08] all the things that you guys [4:45:08] require getting in your own way [4:45:09] of providing what you need to [4:45:09] provide. [4:45:13] >> How weird is that? [4:45:14] It's interesting when you see [4:45:15] the way the government works it [4:45:21] like intentionally cut its own [4:45:22] nose off to save its face Like [4:45:26] it's like And yet we're giving [4:45:26] people raises. [4:45:26] I love it. [4:45:27] We're so good. [4:45:28] I mean if you want to make [4:45:32] money and racketeer get into [4:45:33] the government. [4:45:33] >> Thank you for those [4:45:33] comments. [4:45:37] Joyce On the other Thank you [4:45:43] Kevin. [4:45:44] Good to see you up there. [4:45:44] Okay. [4:45:48] So yes to the Second Amendment [4:45:49] with Kimberly Horn on [4:45:54] the service agreement. [4:45:55] When I look at these eeoc [4:46:00] reports, I'm amazed when I see [4:46:04] as I did on this 114 that's 14 [4:46:05] sub contracts. [4:46:11] Isn't that amazing to think of [4:46:11] how many pieces are needed for [4:46:17] a project So thank you for [4:46:17] mentioning the eeoc item. [4:46:18] I really appreciate that I [4:46:23] rarely hear that. [4:46:24] So I'm just getting back real [4:46:29] quick on many subcontractors [4:46:30] and it just amazes me when we [4:46:36] begin to think of with the time [4:46:36] frame and time is so crazy. [4:46:40] I'm dealing with time right now [4:46:41] . [4:46:42] It's crazy And all these pieces [4:46:47] that have to fall into place to [4:46:47] transportation projects and all [4:46:48] projects really but it just [4:46:52] blows me away how we can bring [4:46:53] those pieces together for [4:46:54] collaboration, coordination and [4:46:58] get it done. [4:46:59] I don't get it. [4:46:59] Thank you so very much. [4:47:00] So on the underrepresentation [4:47:05] we've got Latino and female in [4:47:05] management and financial [4:47:10] African-American, Latino and [4:47:11] Asian in professional I that [4:47:11] was the eeoc. [4:47:17] I could not find a workforce [4:47:18] report and they didn't allude [4:47:18] to it in the eeoc report so I [4:47:19] couldn't find it in the back up [4:47:23] and it might have been buried [4:47:23] somewhere. [4:47:24] But anyway I kind of MISS [4:47:24] Seeing the workforce report [4:47:29] anyway, it was a great day. [4:47:29] Thank you everybody for [4:47:30] participating. [4:47:34] We're in this together and [4:47:35] we're getting it done One step [4:47:36] at a time. [4:47:41] Love to all Thank you. [4:47:41] That concludes in-person public [4:47:42] comment for virtual public [4:47:46] comment I've started the five [4:47:46] minute timer in council [4:47:47] chambers. [4:47:47] We will now turn to the virtual [4:47:49] queue in which there is one [4:47:57] participant requesting to speak [4:47:57] . [4:47:58] Larry Beekman please begin. [4:47:58] All right. [4:48:02] We're Big Ben Thanks for this [4:48:02] item. [4:48:03] It's like some honest good work [4:48:08] for it. [4:48:09] It's it's working on our storm [4:48:10] drain issues it sounds like and [4:48:14] we really need it and thank [4:48:14] you. [4:48:14] It'll be helpful. [4:48:20] I was really seriously reminded [4:48:21] of budget time, you know, in [4:48:25] people's complaints you know [4:48:25] working on storm sewer issues, [4:48:26] the needs of people power and [4:48:31] people smarts and just putting [4:48:32] their heads together and coming [4:48:37] up with solutions. [4:48:37] You have some good solutions [4:48:38] here that will take a lot of [4:48:39] funding dollars and you're [4:48:43] going to come through and do [4:48:43] some nice things. [4:48:44] These are big project things to [4:48:45] me I'm trying to consider what [4:48:49] are the day to day things that [4:48:50] can just help facilitate, you [4:48:50] know, a good thinking process [4:48:55] for all of us And when we get [4:48:56] stuck there can be ways to move [4:48:56] forward. [4:48:57] You did that today with a few [4:49:01] items earlier that you know [4:49:01] certain practices that you [4:49:02] couldn't move forward with [4:49:07] things and there was just ways [4:49:08] to continue to ask Well yeah we [4:49:08] can do things possibly Let's [4:49:12] bring that out And how do we do [4:49:18] that more regularly And with [4:49:19] for instance stormwater issues [4:49:19] if and when they come up [4:49:23] Because I know previously I [4:49:24] would just get stuck sometimes [4:49:25] and like well we just got to [4:49:30] continue the same old same old [4:49:30] And I felt really stupid with [4:49:36] that And but you know you know [4:49:36] I want to be figuring that [4:49:43] better now and so I guess I [4:49:43] mentioned at this time what is [4:49:44] our day to day smarts to work [4:49:48] out of our usual routines and [4:49:53] to really do something good and [4:49:54] good luck. [4:49:54] >> How we can be thinking and [4:49:55] doing that with stormwater is [4:49:59] Thank you. [4:50:00] Thank you. [4:50:01] That concludes our comment on [4:50:01] item 331. [4:50:05] All right. [4:50:06] Thank you Deputy Clerk There is [4:50:07] no storm water or a storm [4:50:07] drainage in this item so just [4:50:12] clear that for the record I [4:50:13] will turn over to council [4:50:14] members questions comments [4:50:14] entertain a motion will go to [4:50:16] council member Aiello were [4:50:17] there All right thank you [4:50:22] Council PRESIDENT I appreciate [4:50:23] the presentation. [4:50:27] I think one question I do want [4:50:33] to ask though is looking at [4:50:34] the first part the continuing [4:50:35] improvements and the staff [4:50:35] report. [4:50:39] It says the consultant's task [4:50:44] was executed on AUGUST 23rd and [4:50:49] is currently set to expire on [4:50:49] AUGUST 23rd 2026 to [4:50:50] the original project based on [4:50:50] it has to be completion of [4:50:52] design by DECEMBER 20th For [4:50:59] however, the project schedule [4:51:00] was delayed for a number of [4:51:01] reasons or extended and I'm [4:51:04] trying to understand on [4:51:05] the front end how difficult it [4:51:11] was to anticipate the reasons [4:51:11] why we are extending Nothing [4:51:17] here seems say nothing but very [4:51:22] few of these things seem [4:51:23] surprising so why not just have [4:51:28] a timeline that better matches [4:51:29] what we expect the timeline to [4:51:29] actually be? [4:51:35] Yeah so I think when what [4:51:36] happens is during design is [4:51:36] more information becomes [4:51:37] available and as you that [4:51:41] information becomes ground [4:51:41] truth then the design gets more [4:51:42] refined, the project gets more [4:51:43] refined And so some of [4:51:47] the assumptions can move [4:51:47] around. [4:51:48] But I would defer to [4:51:48] the project management team to [4:51:50] get more detail on the specific [4:51:50] project. [4:51:56] >> Thank you. [4:51:57] Good afternoon everyone. [4:51:58] My name is needs to be around [4:52:03] senior civil engineer as it was [4:52:03] noted in the presentation this [4:52:04] project is located in [4:52:09] the Canyon Environmentalist [4:52:09] area which is required [4:52:10] extensive environmental and [4:52:16] also we are close to I-5 That [4:52:17] requires a permit from [4:52:17] Caltrans. [4:52:18] In addition to that when we [4:52:22] started the project we started [4:52:22] a high level. [4:52:23] We required at various [4:52:28] technical study to define [4:52:28] the scope of work which helps [4:52:29] us to understand what needs to [4:52:34] be built. [4:52:35] That is why it took a long time [4:52:35] to do that. [4:52:36] Originally when we started [4:52:40] the project the information [4:52:41] that we have was enough to [4:52:46] initiate it but thereafter we [4:52:47] did more work, more research [4:52:53] and put into a detail of [4:52:53] the project. [4:52:54] That is why you'll see more [4:52:54] amendment thereafter because we [4:52:58] know more about the projects I [4:53:03] think is not five right? [4:53:08] Pardon me You said it's near [4:53:08] five. [4:53:09] This is your five and your five [4:53:13] like the Caltrans encroachment [4:53:14] you mentioned the project is [4:53:15] close to eight which is [4:53:20] requiring encroachment. [4:53:21] I think I understood all of [4:53:21] that. [4:53:22] I guess what I'm trying [4:53:25] understand is again I [4:53:26] understand that it's [4:53:26] complicated. [4:53:27] I understand that there are [4:53:31] there but there's a lot that's [4:53:32] going into this. [4:53:32] What I'm not understanding [4:53:33] necessarily is how that was [4:53:38] unanticipated. [4:53:38] We knew it was in a canyon. [4:53:39] We knew it was environmentally [4:53:39] sensitive. [4:53:40] We knew that it would likely [4:53:44] involve working with like I'm [4:53:44] trying to understand that [4:53:49] the gap between what was [4:53:55] projected to be the timeline [4:53:56] and what is actually and what [4:53:56] was actually the timeline and [4:53:57] how much of that was actually [4:54:01] unforeseeable because if it's [4:54:02] foreseeable why aren't we [4:54:02] building that into the timeline [4:54:07] on at the beginning? [4:54:08] That's a very good question and [4:54:08] here's why this matters. [4:54:14] There's like one [4:54:14] the expectations that are set [4:54:15] on the status with [4:54:16] the expectations that are set [4:54:16] on the day yesterday conveyed [4:54:23] out to the community and it [4:54:23] just feels like there's a [4:54:24] better way to to discuss these [4:54:26] things on the front end so that [4:54:33] we're not constantly explaining [4:54:33] why things are taking longer [4:54:34] than they expect than they are [4:54:44] expected to take And a perfect [4:54:45] answer to that question I just [4:54:45] I think it's a fair question [4:54:51] Raise the yes, I think there [4:54:51] are assumptions made at [4:54:52] the early phase of design [4:54:56] the pre design phase and we [4:54:56] have timeframes we assume for [4:54:57] certain environmental reviews [4:55:01] permitting mitigation. [4:55:02] But what can happen is there's [4:55:03] sort of accumulation of all of [4:55:08] a sudden not often but [4:55:08] unanticipated like now you will [4:55:09] have this impact. [4:55:09] So you have to define [4:55:14] the number of of what that [4:55:15] impact is and so that it kind [4:55:15] of creates a multiplier a [4:55:19] little bit in terms of pushing [4:55:20] out the time. [4:55:20] So I don't think it happens on [4:55:21] all projects but in these [4:55:25] particular projects where you [4:55:26] have these different factors [4:55:26] like the various natural [4:55:31] resources in environmental [4:55:32] reviews and Caltrans they sort [4:55:32] of all work together to add [4:55:36] time Sometimes it's kind of [4:55:37] like the best way I can [4:55:38] describe it but it's probably [4:55:38] goes better. [4:55:38] Okay. [4:55:42] And is there not another way to [4:55:54] do this though? [4:55:55] I don't know if there's another [4:55:55] way to do it. [4:55:56] I mean I guess I would defer to [4:56:00] the design teams They accept a [4:56:01] project with certain [4:56:01] assumptions made, right? [4:56:02] Here's the scope. [4:56:06] Here's where it is and then [4:56:07] they work out what they [4:56:08] anticipate to be the time [4:56:12] frames for these different [4:56:12] items with Caltrans or [4:56:13] environmental permitting and do [4:56:18] their best to capture that. [4:56:19] And that's part of what when [4:56:20] you have a consultant to help [4:56:20] refine the project and [4:56:24] the design of the project then [4:56:25] you're going to tease out some [4:56:25] of these elements where you're [4:56:29] going to have to assume things [4:56:30] and then sometimes you can't [4:56:31] always you just can't predict [4:56:36] what's going to be the time [4:56:36] frame. [4:56:37] Sometimes I think that's what [4:56:41] it comes down to. [4:56:42] Okay well I won't belabor [4:56:47] the point. [4:56:51] I, I just feel like in the year [4:56:51] 2026 with the amount of [4:56:52] information that we have, [4:56:57] the knowledge we have, [4:56:58] the experience we have we [4:56:59] should be getting better at [4:57:03] predicting these things not [4:57:03] worse And I'm not sure that [4:57:04] we're getting better. [4:57:08] So I hope that we can find a [4:57:09] better answer to whether or not [4:57:10] there's other ways ways of [4:57:14] doing things Um in the future [4:57:14] because this is it's just it's [4:57:15] not a good way of building [4:57:19] trust and it doesn't seem like [4:57:20] a particularly good way of [4:57:25] delivering what residents [4:57:25] expect. [4:57:26] Again, I know there's always [4:57:31] unforeseen issues that arise [4:57:36] whether or not they're [4:57:36] unforeseeable is a different [4:57:37] question and whether or not we [4:57:38] can factor at least some of [4:57:41] that in on the front end to [4:57:41] create realistic expectations I [4:57:42] think is an important thing to [4:57:46] wrestle with The standard order [4:57:47] of business that we just [4:57:48] routinely extended and extend [4:57:49] and extend and all of us should [4:57:53] just expect that except that I [4:57:54] think that's the part that I'm [4:57:59] just less accepting of at this [4:57:59] point. [4:58:00] With that I will move approval. [4:58:01] Council PRESIDENT Thank you. [4:58:02] Okay we have most of my from a [4:58:05] regular of to move a staff [4:58:05] recommendation I'm going to [4:58:06] jump in with my big mouth [4:58:09] wonder the storm drains in [4:58:09] there so I spoke incorrectly [4:58:10] what I'm guessing is I didn't [4:58:14] actually hear that this project [4:58:14] is taking longer. [4:58:19] You have a panel of as needed [4:58:20] consultants on board and as you [4:58:25] identify projects you decide [4:58:26] which project to find to which [4:58:26] as needed. [4:58:31] The duration of that as need a [4:58:32] consultant doesn't necessarily [4:58:36] line up with the project need [4:58:37] and so someone MAY make it. [4:58:37] That's correct. [4:58:38] That is correct. [4:58:41] So we're conflating [4:58:42] the contract of an as needed [4:58:47] basis with this particular [4:58:47] contract. [4:58:48] Now someone did make a decision [4:58:52] going this Fern's only got a [4:58:53] couple of years left and we [4:58:54] think this project is going to [4:58:55] get done in a couple of years [4:58:57] Or do we likely have consultant [4:58:58] team so much? [4:58:59] Let's go ahead and give that [4:59:03] anticipating that we probably [4:59:07] will need a time extension $0 I [4:59:08] think council like for $0 going [4:59:08] forward. [4:59:09] So it's that decision to award [4:59:15] this project to this as needed [4:59:15] or to this consultant that if [4:59:18] the glitch as opposed to this [4:59:19] project taking longer than one [4:59:19] would guess because I'm you [4:59:23] didn't say it so I'm assuming [4:59:24] this project's probably taken [4:59:25] as long as storms or excuse me [4:59:29] sewer projects in Kenyon's take [4:59:30] That's what I'm kind of kind of [4:59:33] guessing so I don't That helps [4:59:33] you, sir. [4:59:34] But I think that's where [4:59:38] the problem lies is should we [4:59:39] have gone with this consultant [4:59:39] for this project? [4:59:43] >> Yeah, I just I think what's [4:59:44] the original project Based on [4:59:44] anticipated completion of [4:59:47] design by DECEMBER 24th. [4:59:48] So there's components of this [4:59:51] that are in the staff report [4:59:52] that is speaking to when [4:59:53] certain things should have been [4:59:53] done. [4:59:57] There's so I probably am [4:59:58] conflating certain components [5:00:02] or aspects of this but we also [5:00:06] you know there's there's [5:00:07] certain deadlines that are [5:00:12] built into the staff report [5:00:13] that doesn't feel like we're I [5:00:13] call them deadlines because [5:00:14] once I put a date down for [5:00:16] something I considered a [5:00:17] deadline and I don't disagree [5:00:21] with that So but I'll be happy [5:00:22] to Second thought We have a [5:00:23] motion by Councilmember Eula [5:00:23] Rivera in a second by myself so [5:00:25] maybe my comments weren't so [5:00:26] helpful. [5:00:27] So with that I will go to [5:00:30] Councilmember Foster. [5:00:31] Yes, Thank you, Council [5:00:32] PRESIDENT And I do appreciate [5:00:35] your your approach in trying to [5:00:41] provide some clarification But [5:00:42] I think what I will add is that [5:00:42] the utilization of the city [5:00:45] contracts and this issue that [5:00:46] we receive when you talk about [5:00:50] task orders being issued and [5:00:50] time extension not a new [5:00:51] conversation it has been going [5:00:55] on for years and I wish [5:00:56] the city attorney would step in [5:01:00] and do a full analysis and make [5:01:00] sure that we are doing things [5:01:01] appropriately because I think [5:01:05] we are abusing that tool just a [5:01:05] little excessively out of a [5:01:09] matter of convenience. [5:01:10] I will say the other side of [5:01:14] this is and I would agree when [5:01:18] we talk about the items that [5:01:23] are identified as potential [5:01:23] delays, I would agree that [5:01:24] those are things that we should [5:01:28] have known and anticipated. [5:01:29] But also if we are talking [5:01:33] about I mean I did not look up [5:01:34] the specifics of the project [5:01:37] but if we were supposed to have [5:01:38] something done in 2024 I would [5:01:42] ask are we monitoring and [5:01:43] holding our consultants [5:01:47] accountable? [5:01:47] Are we looking at managing this [5:01:52] appropriately and using [5:01:52] the tool of errors and [5:01:57] omissions insurance to hold [5:01:57] them accountable as we are [5:02:02] doing business? [5:02:03] And so I think those are things [5:02:06] that we need to continue to [5:02:07] look at, discuss and review and [5:02:11] make sure that just as we are [5:02:12] held accountable for getting [5:02:16] work done, I want to make sure [5:02:17] that we are holding our [5:02:20] consultants and our contractors [5:02:21] accountable. [5:02:22] If they are to hit a date they [5:02:23] should have a darn good reason [5:02:25] for not hitting that date And [5:02:26] most of the folks that we do [5:02:30] work with are very, very [5:02:31] familiar with the I'm going to [5:02:35] say current conditions as they [5:02:36] go out and do the business that [5:02:40] they do, We tend to repeat [5:02:40] the utilization of our [5:02:45] consultants quite often and so [5:02:45] I think that's something that [5:02:46] we need to look at especially [5:02:47] as we are looking at the gap [5:02:49] with our ip and getting done [5:02:50] what we need to get done. [5:02:54] So I think there's some overall [5:02:54] management improvements that [5:02:55] need to be made to drive our [5:02:59] costs down and to hold folks [5:03:00] accountable so we can deliver [5:03:04] what we need to deliver. [5:03:04] Thank you. [5:03:05] Council PRESIDENT All right. [5:03:06] Well said. [5:03:06] I'm not seeing anybody else in [5:03:07] light. [5:03:08] We have a motion by council [5:03:09] member Eli Rivera and a second [5:03:10] by myself to move the staff [5:03:13] recommendation. [5:03:14] Deputy clerk please call [5:03:14] the roll. [5:03:18] Thank you. [5:03:18] Council PRESIDENT I have set up [5:03:19] the voting system. [5:03:31] Please cast your vote. [5:03:32] The item passes unanimously [5:03:35] with Council District five [5:03:35] absent. [5:03:36] All right. [5:03:37] Thank you and thank you to [5:03:40] staff. [5:03:41] We will now adjourn as the city [5:03:42] council and reconvene as [5:03:45] the public facilities Finance [5:03:46] Authority to vote on the Public [5:03:50] Facilities Finance Authority [5:03:50] item. [5:03:51] There is just one item We will [5:03:54] proceed with the approval of [5:03:55] the Public Facilities Financing [5:04:00] Authority minutes is just [5:04:00] the minutes. [5:04:01] Clerk Deputy Clerk Please [5:04:04] proceed with public comment on [5:04:05] the Public Facilities Financing [5:04:05] Authority minutes The public [5:04:09] comment period for the Public [5:04:09] Facilities Financing Authority [5:04:10] minutes is now open. [5:04:14] Please note each speaker will [5:04:15] have one minute per person. [5:04:16] The minutes being approved are [5:04:19] for the meetings of Tuesday [5:04:22] NOVEMBER 18th 2025 Tuesday [5:04:23] FEBRUARY 24th 2026. [5:04:27] Tuesday, APRIL 21st 2026. [5:04:28] We will begin with in-person [5:04:31] public comment. [5:04:41] Maximilian Schmidt Total Hi. [5:04:46] >> I first came to City Council [5:04:47] just to make my voice heard [5:04:47] because I'm being targeted and [5:04:48] persecuted. [5:04:50] I believe for being Catholic by [5:04:51] telepathic Freemasons who can [5:04:55] read my mind And I never would [5:04:56] have thought in a million years [5:05:01] that the state trolley [5:05:01] the state homeless shelter in [5:05:02] the state library and [5:05:03] the buildings downtown that are [5:05:06] persecuting me that my [5:05:07] persecution would lead into [5:05:07] city council who also [5:05:12] persecuted me of neuro [5:05:12] linguistics. [5:05:13] And I wanted to say I brought [5:05:13] up this statement before I [5:05:16] think on the minutes by [5:05:16] persecutory of neuro [5:05:17] linguistics they exposed to me [5:05:20] that they're Freemasons and [5:05:21] that they're telepathic and [5:05:22] they've done pagan rituals and [5:05:25] that their religion is actually [5:05:25] paganism and Freemasonry And I [5:05:30] believe that they have an [5:05:31] unfair advantage over [5:05:31] the common man because they're [5:05:34] telepathic and they can use a [5:05:35] third eye to camp out in [5:05:39] people's consciousness and know [5:05:40] exactly what they're thinking. [5:05:40] I think in the minutes there [5:05:41] should be an asterisk on who's [5:05:44] a Freemason and I believe that [5:05:45] to give up their advantage. [5:05:45] >> Thank you for your comments. [5:05:56] Next up is allegedly order [5:05:57] holding people accountable. [5:06:01] You guys are funny. [5:06:02] Yes with minutes sewer water, [5:06:06] sewer bonds. [5:06:07] You know, I'm a little [5:06:08] concerned that we're, you know, [5:06:09] going into debt and wasting [5:06:12] this money when you guys aren't [5:06:13] keeping up with [5:06:13] the infrastructure the way that [5:06:14] you should. [5:06:17] So it's like you know, I mean [5:06:18] we're just going to continue to [5:06:22] get further into debt by [5:06:26] utilizing these bonds And [5:06:27] that's what's so funny. [5:06:27] I mean for like with these [5:06:28] types of things like let's go [5:06:31] into debt for that but like you [5:06:32] know all the other stuff like [5:06:32] Todd Gloria, Megan his music [5:06:36] videos and stuff like that [5:06:37] where the money's there. [5:06:37] You know what I mean? [5:06:41] Like it's just very sad to see [5:06:42] the things that take place with [5:06:42] again the bare necessities of [5:06:46] what we need and where you [5:06:50] know, we're paying to even, you [5:06:51] know, talks of fire water. [5:06:52] I mean we're being given back [5:06:55] our own sewage like these are [5:06:56] things I never thought that [5:06:59] would like be taking place. [5:07:00] And again, all while data [5:07:01] centers and lithium mining [5:07:03] takes our fresh water Make that [5:07:07] make sense. [5:07:08] Thank you. [5:07:09] That concludes in-person public [5:07:09] comment. [5:07:12] We have no speakers in [5:07:13] the virtual queue. [5:07:14] That concludes public comment [5:07:17] on the public facilities [5:07:17] financing minutes although [5:07:22] there is nobody here. [5:07:22] We will take public comments [5:07:27] from the council members Any [5:07:27] questions or comments anybody [5:07:28] wants to make a motion to move [5:07:32] the minutes are council member [5:07:32] Campo Thank you sir and [5:07:38] the second by Council member [5:07:39] Campbell So we have a motion by [5:07:39] Council member Campion and [5:07:40] second by Council member [5:07:42] Campbell to move approval of [5:07:43] the Public Facilities Finance [5:07:43] Authority minutes The Clerk [5:07:46] Please call the roll outside of [5:07:47] the voting system please cast [5:07:55] your vote. [5:08:00] The item passes unanimously [5:08:01] with Council District five [5:08:01] absent. [5:08:02] All right. [5:08:05] Thank you Deputy Clerk We will [5:08:06] now take up the Public [5:08:09] Facilities Financing Authority [5:08:10] Non Agenda Public Comment [5:08:11] The Public Facilities Finance [5:08:15] Authority members respect and [5:08:16] appreciate the public's input [5:08:16] and are fully committed to [5:08:19] protecting every participant's [5:08:20] free speech rights at [5:08:21] the Public Facilities Finance [5:08:25] Authority meetings. [5:08:25] Deputy Clerk Please proceed [5:08:26] with public comment on [5:08:30] the public facilities financing [5:08:30] Authority per rule 2.7 Non [5:08:31] Agenda Public comment as an [5:08:35] opportunity for members of [5:08:36] the public to comment on items [5:08:36] that are not on the agenda but [5:08:37] within the subject matter [5:08:40] jurisdiction of the Public [5:08:41] Facilities Financing Authority. [5:08:43] Each speaker will have two [5:08:44] minutes. [5:08:44] If you are in chambers please [5:08:45] submit your speaker slip If you [5:08:48] are joining us virtually please [5:08:49] raise your hand to speak by [5:08:49] tapping the raise your hand [5:08:50] icon or if you are a call in [5:08:53] participant Star nine We will [5:08:54] begin with in-person public [5:09:05] comment allegedly under Joe no [5:09:06] one's here. [5:09:11] We're still here And I'm saying [5:09:11] okay I'm saying come on Joe. [5:09:15] You know any who Yes, there is [5:09:19] a very big concern with public [5:09:20] utilities and these data [5:09:20] centers. [5:09:24] So community power they [5:09:25] couldn't hold their meeting [5:09:25] because they didn't notice it [5:09:29] properly This last time but [5:09:30] they were getting ready to talk [5:09:31] about their you know, keeping [5:09:35] the power on for these data [5:09:35] centers which I don't know what [5:09:36] data centers are talking about. [5:09:37] I'm not sure if it's like [5:09:38] the fusion center or what need [5:09:39] to find out more about that. [5:09:40] But while our power goes out as [5:09:44] the community will keep [5:09:45] the data centers on, does that [5:09:48] not concern anybody that we're [5:09:49] going to pay extra to keep a [5:09:50] data center running while [5:09:56] the people have no power? [5:09:56] Is that right? [5:09:57] That's that should be [5:09:58] concerning, isn't it? [5:10:01] I mean because this is where [5:10:01] we're headed again taking our [5:10:05] freshwater while we get our [5:10:06] sewage with what you call pure [5:10:10] water and then taking our power [5:10:11] so our power can go out in our [5:10:11] homes. [5:10:15] >> Say somebody has like an [5:10:16] oxygen tank. [5:10:16] I don't know. [5:10:17] Hopefully they have a generator [5:10:20] circuit it to But as long as [5:10:21] our data centers are running [5:10:24] we're good right? [5:10:25] How much more are we going to [5:10:26] have to pay to make sure that [5:10:26] happens? [5:10:26] And then with all these [5:10:29] electric vehicles and whatnot, [5:10:30] you know what I'm saying? [5:10:34] Like we're already told you you [5:10:35] can't use your ac The power [5:10:39] grid is at its max capacity but [5:10:39] we bring in the data centers. [5:10:40] So do you guys want to [5:10:44] sacrifice the people for data? [5:10:48] >> I would like to know are you [5:10:49] guys going to stand in the gap [5:10:50] for the people and make sure [5:10:54] that these data centers are not [5:10:54] priority over the people? [5:10:58] I appreciate you Joe, for [5:10:59] actually like recognizing that [5:11:00] this is an issue where all [5:11:03] the rest of the robots are [5:11:04] sitting here like that's not a [5:11:04] problem. [5:11:05] I mean it doesn't matter for [5:11:08] your kids right, Right, right, [5:11:09] right. [5:11:12] >> Thank you for that comment. [5:11:13] That does conclude in-person [5:11:14] public comment And we have no [5:11:17] raised hands in the virtual [5:11:17] queue. [5:11:18] That concludes public [5:11:19] facilities financing authority [5:11:22] non agenda public comment. [5:11:22] All right. [5:11:23] Thank you Deputy Clerk We will [5:11:24] now adjourn as the public [5:11:27] Facilities finance Authority [5:11:28] and reconvene as the City [5:11:28] Council. [5:11:31] With that we will now adjourn [5:11:32] Council to the next regularly [5:11:35] scheduled council meeting on [5:11:39] Monday JUNE 22nd, 2026 at 10