1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:00,851 the 2:00 afternoon session. 2 00:00:00,851 --> 00:00:04,755 So again, thank you to all of 3 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:05,689 you for your patience here. 4 00:00:05,689 --> 00:00:08,992 I know some of you are here for 5 00:00:08,992 --> 00:00:09,593 the very, very first time So 6 00:00:09,593 --> 00:00:10,930 all right, we're ready. 7 00:00:10,930 --> 00:00:10,528 Kevin All right. 8 00:00:10,528 --> 00:00:12,528 Good morning. 9 00:00:13,464 --> 00:00:14,131 I will now call the city 10 00:00:14,131 --> 00:00:14,865 Council meeting of Tuesday, 11 00:00:14,865 --> 00:00:17,865 JUNE 23rd, 2026 to order Deputy 12 00:00:19,170 --> 00:00:19,837 Clerk please call the roll. 13 00:00:19,837 --> 00:00:21,837 Councilmember Campbell here. 14 00:00:23,341 --> 00:00:23,974 Council member Whitburn here 15 00:00:23,974 --> 00:00:24,608 Council Member Foster here 16 00:00:24,608 --> 00:00:27,800 Council Member Von Weber 17 00:00:28,212 --> 00:00:28,846 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee 18 00:00:28,846 --> 00:00:31,246 Council Member Campo here 19 00:00:32,483 --> 00:00:33,183 Council Member Moreno Present 20 00:00:33,183 --> 00:00:33,750 Council member Eli Rivera and 21 00:00:33,750 --> 00:00:35,750 Council Member Council 22 00:00:37,922 --> 00:00:38,689 PRESIDENT LaCava present. 23 00:00:38,689 --> 00:00:39,323 Also attending the meeting are 24 00:00:39,323 --> 00:00:41,723 Chief Deputy City Attorney 25 00:00:42,827 --> 00:00:43,527 Melissa Ables, Independent 26 00:00:43,527 --> 00:00:44,161 Budget Analyst Charles Mollica 27 00:00:44,161 --> 00:00:46,561 Council Affairs Advisor in 28 00:00:48,399 --> 00:00:49,660 the Mayor's office Kota Sizer 29 00:00:49,660 --> 00:00:52,660 and myself your Deputy City 30 00:00:52,603 --> 00:00:53,137 Clerk Kevin Smith All right, 31 00:00:53,137 --> 00:00:53,771 thank you for that. 32 00:00:53,771 --> 00:00:56,507 A quorum is now present. 33 00:00:56,507 --> 00:00:57,208 We will begin this morning with 34 00:00:57,208 --> 00:00:57,941 the land acknowledgment and 35 00:00:57,941 --> 00:00:58,542 the Pledge of Allegiance led by 36 00:00:58,542 --> 00:01:00,542 Council member Whitburn. 37 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,248 So if you would please stand we 38 00:01:10,554 --> 00:01:11,155 respectfully acknowledge that 39 00:01:11,155 --> 00:01:11,822 the committee should are 40 00:01:11,822 --> 00:01:12,323 the original inhabitants of 41 00:01:12,323 --> 00:01:14,158 the Unceded land. 42 00:01:14,158 --> 00:01:14,926 I know to San Diego. 43 00:01:14,926 --> 00:01:15,560 Despite enduring the horrors of 44 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,560 genocide and colonization, 45 00:01:18,396 --> 00:01:18,763 the Holy Spirit remains 46 00:01:18,763 --> 00:01:19,396 unbroken. 47 00:01:19,396 --> 00:01:20,164 We honor the resilience of 48 00:01:20,164 --> 00:01:23,164 their ancestors who fought to 49 00:01:23,568 --> 00:01:24,268 protect their culture and land 50 00:01:24,268 --> 00:01:24,936 Today they carry their legacy 51 00:01:24,936 --> 00:01:27,336 forward ensuring that their 52 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:28,773 traditions continue to thrive 53 00:01:28,773 --> 00:01:29,407 and gratitude and strength We 54 00:01:29,407 --> 00:01:31,807 stand with the combination 55 00:01:33,144 --> 00:01:33,877 connected to our past and 56 00:01:33,877 --> 00:01:36,877 committed to a thriving future. 57 00:01:38,149 --> 00:01:38,549 Please face the flag Hand over 58 00:01:38,549 --> 00:01:38,850 your heart. 59 00:01:38,850 --> 00:01:39,150 Ready? 60 00:01:39,150 --> 00:01:41,150 Begin. 61 00:01:42,860 --> 00:01:42,820 I pledge allegiance to the flag 62 00:01:42,820 --> 00:01:46,420 of the United States of America 63 00:01:47,250 --> 00:01:47,892 and to the Republic for which 64 00:01:47,892 --> 00:01:51,229 it stands One nation under GOD 65 00:01:51,229 --> 00:01:53,629 indivisible with liberty and 66 00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:56,434 justice for all. 67 00:01:56,434 --> 00:01:58,434 All right. 68 00:02:01,105 --> 00:02:01,739 Deputy Clerk please go over how 69 00:02:01,739 --> 00:02:02,106 the public can offer their 70 00:02:02,106 --> 00:02:02,707 testimony. 71 00:02:02,707 --> 00:02:05,107 They will now highlight 72 00:02:05,810 --> 00:02:06,511 the slide on the screen that 73 00:02:06,511 --> 00:02:09,511 reviews how the public can 74 00:02:10,815 --> 00:02:13,215 offer their public testimony 75 00:02:24,562 --> 00:02:25,296 during today's meeting. 76 00:02:25,296 --> 00:02:25,697 I'll summarize the slide on 77 00:02:25,697 --> 00:02:27,697 the screen. 78 00:02:29,701 --> 00:02:30,402 Please note that the time 79 00:02:30,402 --> 00:02:31,102 allocations for proclamations 80 00:02:31,102 --> 00:02:34,102 and consent items for meeting 81 00:02:34,872 --> 00:02:35,507 management purpose purposes 82 00:02:35,507 --> 00:02:36,174 the order can be found on 83 00:02:36,174 --> 00:02:36,774 the agenda summary found on 84 00:02:36,774 --> 00:02:40,440 line or at the table in 85 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:40,845 the back of the room. 86 00:02:40,845 --> 00:02:41,579 If you are in person please 87 00:02:41,579 --> 00:02:44,249 complete a speaker slip located 88 00:02:44,249 --> 00:02:44,950 at the entrance of chambers and 89 00:02:44,950 --> 00:02:45,317 bring it to the front of 90 00:02:45,317 --> 00:02:45,917 the room. 91 00:02:45,917 --> 00:02:47,917 Council ambassadors are 92 00:02:49,821 --> 00:02:50,589 available near the entrance of 93 00:02:50,589 --> 00:02:54,189 this room and can assist with 94 00:02:54,759 --> 00:02:55,459 questions and speaker slips. 95 00:02:55,459 --> 00:02:56,127 No further in-person testimony 96 00:02:56,127 --> 00:02:57,162 will be taken once the City 97 00:02:57,162 --> 00:02:59,162 Council begins virtual 98 00:03:02,734 --> 00:03:03,135 testimony. 99 00:03:03,135 --> 00:03:03,502 All right. 100 00:03:03,502 --> 00:03:04,269 Thank you. 101 00:03:04,269 --> 00:03:07,205 With that we will now dispense 102 00:03:07,205 --> 00:03:07,806 with the approval of 103 00:03:07,806 --> 00:03:08,473 the proclamation items. 104 00:03:08,473 --> 00:03:10,873 Deputy Clerk Please proceed 105 00:03:12,343 --> 00:03:13,780 with public comment. 106 00:03:13,780 --> 00:03:13,777 The public comment period for 107 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:14,790 the proclamation items is now 108 00:03:14,790 --> 00:03:16,790 open. 109 00:03:16,948 --> 00:03:17,616 Each speaker will have one 110 00:03:17,616 --> 00:03:18,316 minute per item per person. 111 00:03:18,316 --> 00:03:18,983 If you would like to speak on 112 00:03:18,983 --> 00:03:21,653 three or more items you will 113 00:03:21,653 --> 00:03:21,987 have a maximum of three 114 00:03:21,987 --> 00:03:22,654 minutes. 115 00:03:22,654 --> 00:03:25,540 The proclamation items being 116 00:03:26,892 --> 00:03:29,292 approved are items 3031 sw 500 117 00:03:30,962 --> 00:03:31,897 and 504. 118 00:03:31,897 --> 00:03:34,297 >> >> We will begin with 119 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,680 in-person public comment. 120 00:03:40,572 --> 00:03:41,606 Jason Cox Please come forward. 121 00:03:41,606 --> 00:03:45,206 You'll have one minute to speak 122 00:03:49,470 --> 00:03:49,648 on items five and four. 123 00:03:49,648 --> 00:03:50,249 Good morning everybody. 124 00:03:50,249 --> 00:03:53,249 I'm speaking today as a 125 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:54,653 resident of Oak Park and a 126 00:03:54,653 --> 00:03:54,987 frequent patron of the Oak Park 127 00:03:54,987 --> 00:03:56,987 Library. 128 00:03:57,522 --> 00:03:58,290 I probably been down there five 129 00:03:58,290 --> 00:03:58,991 times for books, maybe 15 or 10 130 00:03:58,991 --> 00:04:01,391 for community events but 131 00:04:02,861 --> 00:04:03,729 the rest for Mark Davis. 132 00:04:03,729 --> 00:04:04,696 I want to say he's gone far 133 00:04:04,696 --> 00:04:07,999 beyond what it means to be a 134 00:04:07,999 --> 00:04:08,967 librarian. 135 00:04:08,967 --> 00:04:09,668 And I would want to call out 136 00:04:09,668 --> 00:04:10,369 was active role in supporting 137 00:04:10,369 --> 00:04:13,538 the community be it friends of 138 00:04:13,538 --> 00:04:14,206 the library or the Oak Park 139 00:04:14,206 --> 00:04:14,706 Youth Core and see that he's 140 00:04:14,706 --> 00:04:16,706 been exceptional. 141 00:04:17,276 --> 00:04:17,976 But what I really want to 142 00:04:17,976 --> 00:04:18,743 highlight today is the fact 143 00:04:18,743 --> 00:04:19,144 that for Mark it has never been 144 00:04:19,144 --> 00:04:21,144 exceptional. 145 00:04:22,648 --> 00:04:23,482 It's just a Tuesday. 146 00:04:23,482 --> 00:04:26,482 I've never seen someone so 147 00:04:27,285 --> 00:04:27,886 professional, so nonchalant and 148 00:04:27,886 --> 00:04:30,286 yet so compassionate and 149 00:04:31,957 --> 00:04:32,791 helpful at the same time. 150 00:04:32,791 --> 00:04:33,492 He has proven that pragmatism 151 00:04:33,492 --> 00:04:36,260 does not preclude activism and 152 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:36,928 in doing so rather than 153 00:04:36,928 --> 00:04:39,328 exceeding the standards for 154 00:04:41,567 --> 00:04:42,367 librarians, he's lifted them up 155 00:04:42,367 --> 00:04:45,967 to his He's the quintessence of 156 00:04:46,238 --> 00:04:47,106 what it means to be a librarian 157 00:04:47,106 --> 00:04:47,640 in the 21st century and he's a 158 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,640 true public servant. 159 00:04:50,910 --> 00:04:51,610 I hope he can serve as a model 160 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:52,477 for all those who come after 161 00:04:52,477 --> 00:04:54,112 him and we're truly sad to see 162 00:04:54,112 --> 00:04:56,112 him go. 163 00:04:58,918 --> 00:04:59,952 Thank you for your comment. 164 00:04:59,952 --> 00:05:02,952 >> Our next speaker is Lisa 165 00:05:04,590 --> 00:05:05,257 Solis. 166 00:05:05,257 --> 00:05:07,657 >> This is Lisa Solis. 167 00:05:09,461 --> 00:05:10,620 You do have time ceded to you 168 00:05:10,620 --> 00:05:12,462 by one other individual. 169 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,670 Eric Bana Tao, are you here? 170 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:15,401 Could you raise your hand, 171 00:05:15,401 --> 00:05:16,100 please? 172 00:05:16,100 --> 00:05:18,871 Oh, thank you very much. 173 00:05:18,871 --> 00:05:19,205 You will have a total of two 174 00:05:19,205 --> 00:05:19,672 minutes. 175 00:05:19,672 --> 00:05:21,672 >> Good morning. 176 00:05:23,909 --> 00:05:24,643 Good morning, City Council. 177 00:05:24,643 --> 00:05:25,344 And on behalf of Bird Rock 178 00:05:25,344 --> 00:05:27,744 Elementary School, I'm Eric 179 00:05:28,447 --> 00:05:29,148 Bana, our school principal. 180 00:05:29,148 --> 00:05:32,748 On behalf of the whole entire 181 00:05:33,180 --> 00:05:33,686 staff, the community and our 182 00:05:33,686 --> 00:05:34,387 students we are excited and 183 00:05:34,387 --> 00:05:37,289 happy that you can acknowledge 184 00:05:37,289 --> 00:05:38,900 our 75th anniversary. 185 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:38,891 And with that we have a little 186 00:05:38,891 --> 00:05:41,527 bit of a serenade for you. 187 00:05:41,527 --> 00:05:42,280 But first let me introduce our 188 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:44,280 music teacher MS.. 189 00:05:45,965 --> 00:05:46,399 Solis. 190 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:47,232 Good morning. 191 00:05:47,232 --> 00:05:50,702 We're so excited to be here as 192 00:05:50,702 --> 00:05:51,370 Sioux City Council today. 193 00:05:51,370 --> 00:05:52,237 We have our students here. 194 00:05:52,237 --> 00:05:55,740 When I found out that we were 195 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:56,475 having this celebration I 196 00:05:56,475 --> 00:05:57,176 thought it was really important 197 00:05:57,176 --> 00:06:00,776 for everybody to know that we 198 00:06:01,347 --> 00:06:03,747 are Pelican's River pelicans. 199 00:06:05,584 --> 00:06:06,552 Our our our how do you say our 200 00:06:06,552 --> 00:06:10,152 motto are we have what's that 201 00:06:10,990 --> 00:06:11,591 called The person The Pelican. 202 00:06:11,591 --> 00:06:12,358 Our slogan Our slogan is 203 00:06:12,358 --> 00:06:15,958 the Pelican And we are not 204 00:06:16,620 --> 00:06:16,929 pelican. 205 00:06:16,929 --> 00:06:17,262 We are pelicans and we love DR. 206 00:06:17,262 --> 00:06:19,262 Barnett. 207 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,100 Well, we call him DR. At Bird 208 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:21,834 Rock. 209 00:06:21,834 --> 00:06:22,668 So you'll hear him mentioned in 210 00:06:22,668 --> 00:06:25,704 this song And I have today with 211 00:06:25,704 --> 00:06:26,406 me a very Talia, Petra and 212 00:06:26,406 --> 00:06:28,841 Campbell and they're going to 213 00:06:28,841 --> 00:06:31,241 be singing our song. 214 00:06:39,818 --> 00:06:44,180 It's great to be a pelican and 215 00:06:44,257 --> 00:06:47,257 creatively again we find that 216 00:06:50,863 --> 00:06:51,731 again and again Got to be 217 00:06:51,731 --> 00:06:55,902 the way be jazz and get this 218 00:06:55,902 --> 00:07:00,390 every day we live we learn, we 219 00:07:00,390 --> 00:07:04,239 give and play We dance and sing 220 00:07:05,145 --> 00:07:06,120 The pelicans where we live we 221 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,612 learn wages and we dance and 222 00:07:11,118 --> 00:07:15,318 sing and let them tell you why 223 00:07:16,289 --> 00:07:19,289 The pelicans we're not going 224 00:07:34,707 --> 00:07:35,108 anywhere And the Pelican Land 225 00:07:35,108 --> 00:07:36,750 Thank you. 226 00:07:36,750 --> 00:07:38,444 Our next speaker is James 227 00:07:38,444 --> 00:07:40,444 Savage. 228 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,484 James speaking on item 34 229 00:07:49,822 --> 00:07:53,422 Pollinator Week James c of Yes 230 00:07:54,260 --> 00:07:54,727 09090 sorry I couldn't read 231 00:07:54,727 --> 00:07:55,161 James apologize. 232 00:07:55,161 --> 00:07:55,996 No worries. 233 00:07:55,996 --> 00:07:59,596 Well I wanted to thank Council 234 00:07:59,698 --> 00:08:00,433 PRESIDENT LaCava and 235 00:08:00,433 --> 00:08:01,167 the members of the City Council 236 00:08:01,167 --> 00:08:04,167 Thank you today for recognizing 237 00:08:04,471 --> 00:08:05,710 Pollinator Week 2026 As someone 238 00:08:05,710 --> 00:08:07,471 who studies bees and 239 00:08:09,420 --> 00:08:09,676 representing the city of San 240 00:08:09,676 --> 00:08:10,310 Diego Obesity Initiative, 241 00:08:10,310 --> 00:08:13,310 pollinators are not just a 242 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:14,781 symbol of nature they are part 243 00:08:14,781 --> 00:08:15,482 of our working infrastructure 244 00:08:15,482 --> 00:08:18,482 of healthy ecosystems In San 245 00:08:19,286 --> 00:08:19,986 Diego they support canyons, 246 00:08:19,986 --> 00:08:22,386 parks, gardens, native plants 247 00:08:24,758 --> 00:08:25,492 and even food and therefore 248 00:08:25,492 --> 00:08:25,858 they're really valuable part of 249 00:08:25,858 --> 00:08:26,526 our city. 250 00:08:26,526 --> 00:08:28,926 And I'm especially grateful 251 00:08:29,930 --> 00:08:30,497 that the city has taken 252 00:08:30,497 --> 00:08:31,198 the leadership role in 253 00:08:31,198 --> 00:08:31,865 the mayor's monarch pledge and 254 00:08:31,865 --> 00:08:33,865 particularly for supporting 255 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:35,669 Edie 2254 the Monarch 256 00:08:35,669 --> 00:08:37,669 Protection Bill protecting 257 00:08:40,907 --> 00:08:41,542 Monarch Overwintering habitats 258 00:08:41,542 --> 00:08:44,542 in our California coast is 259 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,380 exactly the kind of practical 260 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:46,980 science based action that can 261 00:08:46,980 --> 00:08:47,614 make a real difference. 262 00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:50,140 So I think pollinator 263 00:08:51,885 --> 00:08:52,552 protection with the city's help 264 00:08:52,552 --> 00:08:53,253 is not just abstract We can 265 00:08:53,253 --> 00:08:55,653 dedicate ourselves to reducing 266 00:08:56,857 --> 00:08:57,490 chemicals, to planting 267 00:08:57,490 --> 00:08:59,490 biodiverse water, drought 268 00:09:02,529 --> 00:09:03,297 tolerant native plants and 269 00:09:03,297 --> 00:09:03,764 bringing our actions to make a 270 00:09:03,764 --> 00:09:04,431 real difference. 271 00:09:04,431 --> 00:09:05,666 >> Thank you for helping San 272 00:09:05,666 --> 00:09:09,266 Diego take the lead in this. 273 00:09:11,772 --> 00:09:12,606 Thank you. 274 00:09:12,606 --> 00:09:12,939 >> Our next speaker is Max 275 00:09:12,939 --> 00:09:14,939 Schmidt. 276 00:09:27,855 --> 00:09:30,891 Max Schmidt your final slip to 277 00:09:30,891 --> 00:09:31,658 speak to items 31 s 505 before 278 00:09:31,658 --> 00:09:32,920 so you will have a total of 279 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:32,392 three minutes. 280 00:09:32,392 --> 00:09:34,392 >> Hi. 281 00:09:36,330 --> 00:09:37,310 I just wanted to say that I'm 282 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:40,310 strongly opposed to all of 283 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:42,803 these on new dates on we've got 284 00:09:42,803 --> 00:09:45,803 JUNE 22nd to 28th pollinator 285 00:09:47,274 --> 00:09:50,274 week JUNE 30th Shawna Anderson 286 00:09:52,146 --> 00:09:52,846 Day on JUNE AUGUST 26th Bird 287 00:09:52,846 --> 00:09:53,547 Rock Elementary Day JUNE 25th 288 00:09:53,547 --> 00:09:57,147 Mark Davis Day I'm opposed to 289 00:09:58,252 --> 00:09:58,886 all of those days strongly 290 00:09:58,886 --> 00:09:59,586 opposed to them very, very 291 00:09:59,586 --> 00:10:01,986 strongly, strongly opposed to 292 00:10:03,190 --> 00:10:03,958 them. 293 00:10:03,958 --> 00:10:04,658 And the reason why is because 294 00:10:04,658 --> 00:10:07,658 all they are are distractions 295 00:10:08,529 --> 00:10:09,130 and cover ups for 296 00:10:09,130 --> 00:10:11,130 the underground Catholic 297 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:41,625 genocide to something or if I'm 298 00:10:43,397 --> 00:10:44,310 for something I'm about to say 299 00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:44,699 the reason I'm opposed to 300 00:10:44,699 --> 00:10:47,699 certain something I know my 301 00:10:48,836 --> 00:10:49,470 rights and the reason I'm 302 00:10:49,470 --> 00:10:52,470 opposed to these dates is 303 00:10:53,139 --> 00:10:53,874 because in my opinion with my 304 00:10:53,874 --> 00:10:54,541 First Amendment right I believe 305 00:10:54,541 --> 00:10:55,243 that they are cover up for a 306 00:10:55,243 --> 00:10:57,643 Catholic genocide happening in 307 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:00,581 San Diego where people are 308 00:11:00,581 --> 00:11:02,981 being driven completely crazy 309 00:11:04,919 --> 00:11:05,620 and driven to suicide and and 310 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:06,220 driven to drugs by being 311 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:06,921 constantly surrounded by 312 00:11:06,921 --> 00:11:09,321 Freemasons who are telepathic, 313 00:11:11,526 --> 00:11:12,126 who've done hermetic chants in 314 00:11:12,126 --> 00:11:12,827 Masonic Lodge to become 315 00:11:12,827 --> 00:11:14,827 telepathic Freemasons surround 316 00:11:17,632 --> 00:11:18,265 Catholics and speak gibberish 317 00:11:18,265 --> 00:11:18,933 nonstop while saying their 318 00:11:18,933 --> 00:11:19,634 thoughts out loud to try to 319 00:11:19,634 --> 00:11:22,634 drive them crazy mentally ill 320 00:11:24,539 --> 00:11:25,272 suicidal into drugs And there's 321 00:11:25,272 --> 00:11:26,107 an underground genocide in that 322 00:11:26,107 --> 00:11:30,278 for city council to say like we 323 00:11:30,278 --> 00:11:30,912 support human rights and we 324 00:11:30,912 --> 00:11:31,612 support on all these human 325 00:11:31,612 --> 00:11:34,120 rights issues they're phonies 326 00:11:36,451 --> 00:11:37,151 if they support human rights 327 00:11:37,151 --> 00:11:37,718 then why are they covering up 328 00:11:37,718 --> 00:11:38,353 the Catholic genocide? 329 00:11:38,353 --> 00:11:41,953 And I know my first minute 330 00:11:42,190 --> 00:11:42,857 rights and I feel a little 331 00:11:42,857 --> 00:11:43,491 frustrated I was interrupted 332 00:11:43,491 --> 00:11:44,158 because if I come here and 333 00:11:44,158 --> 00:11:47,795 spend my time and say if I'm 334 00:11:47,795 --> 00:11:48,462 opposed to an issue I have 335 00:11:48,462 --> 00:11:48,896 the right to say why I'm 336 00:11:48,896 --> 00:11:49,564 opposed to it. 337 00:11:49,564 --> 00:11:50,164 And I believe that these on 338 00:11:50,164 --> 00:11:53,164 dates are cover ups for 339 00:11:53,868 --> 00:11:54,469 Catholic genocide that's 340 00:11:54,469 --> 00:11:55,169 happening in San Diego. 341 00:11:55,169 --> 00:11:58,769 It's a miracle I'm even alive 342 00:12:00,410 --> 00:12:00,708 right now because after being 343 00:12:00,708 --> 00:12:01,276 made homeless in the dead of 344 00:12:01,276 --> 00:12:02,100 winter by liberals in 345 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:05,100 Cincinnati, I moved to San 346 00:12:06,815 --> 00:12:07,581 Diego to not freeze to death 347 00:12:07,581 --> 00:12:12,381 And I am for the past year when 348 00:12:12,787 --> 00:12:13,487 I go to job interviews they 349 00:12:13,487 --> 00:12:14,189 also speak gibberish to me and 350 00:12:14,189 --> 00:12:14,889 read my mind and mess with me. 351 00:12:14,889 --> 00:12:18,592 i can't get a job in San Diego 352 00:12:18,592 --> 00:12:19,327 and for the past year I've been 353 00:12:19,327 --> 00:12:20,280 followed around and had my head 354 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,280 completely mentally destroyed 355 00:12:24,865 --> 00:12:25,533 by people speaking gibberish 356 00:12:25,533 --> 00:12:26,267 around me nonstop saying my 357 00:12:26,267 --> 00:12:29,867 thoughts And there's a truth of 358 00:12:30,405 --> 00:12:30,738 genocide and a city council are 359 00:12:30,738 --> 00:12:31,406 phonies. 360 00:12:31,406 --> 00:12:31,740 They don't care about human 361 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:32,440 rights. 362 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,775 They're covering up a Catholic 363 00:12:33,775 --> 00:12:34,575 genocide in San Diego And I 364 00:12:34,575 --> 00:12:37,575 don't want to be interrupted 365 00:12:49,690 --> 00:12:51,690 again. 366 00:12:56,264 --> 00:13:00,234 So what you might I mean this 367 00:13:00,234 --> 00:13:01,200 works but the jurors I mean it 368 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,602 seems like the system is still 369 00:13:06,408 --> 00:13:08,408 glitching. 370 00:13:12,981 --> 00:13:15,981 No, you should do some 371 00:13:20,221 --> 00:13:22,221 housecleaning real quick. 372 00:13:37,472 --> 00:13:41,672 I brought my broom but we can 373 00:13:48,650 --> 00:13:49,500 hear you and they can hear So 374 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:51,500 it's cool. 375 00:13:55,357 --> 00:13:55,724 I'm live so we're getting it 376 00:13:55,724 --> 00:13:56,291 out there. 377 00:13:56,291 --> 00:13:56,960 You know what I mean? 378 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,960 This is not edited anyhow. 379 00:14:01,429 --> 00:14:02,164 It's good to see you guys on 380 00:14:02,164 --> 00:14:02,798 this level and like this is how 381 00:14:02,798 --> 00:14:03,465 it should be This close to 382 00:14:03,465 --> 00:14:06,465 the people know it terrifies 383 00:14:06,835 --> 00:14:07,502 you guys but you know to really 384 00:14:07,502 --> 00:14:08,203 feel like you're living and 385 00:14:08,203 --> 00:14:11,803 doing what the people need we 386 00:14:12,730 --> 00:14:13,410 should be on the same level and 387 00:14:13,410 --> 00:14:13,741 not you guys up on a diet that 388 00:14:13,741 --> 00:14:17,341 feels like you're trying to be 389 00:14:18,447 --> 00:14:22,470 above the people And so I'm 390 00:14:22,783 --> 00:14:23,552 going to connect 31 and 30 and 391 00:14:23,552 --> 00:14:24,286 500 and that's 504 So with 392 00:14:24,286 --> 00:14:27,886 the Pollinator week I think you 393 00:14:28,423 --> 00:14:29,158 guys you know there's always 394 00:14:29,158 --> 00:14:29,892 underlying things when you have 395 00:14:29,892 --> 00:14:30,625 these proclamations And again I 396 00:14:30,625 --> 00:14:34,225 feel like you should spend more 397 00:14:35,497 --> 00:14:36,231 time on the rest of the agenda 398 00:14:36,231 --> 00:14:36,899 as you do on proclamations You 399 00:14:36,899 --> 00:14:40,969 spend a very long time on it 400 00:14:40,969 --> 00:14:41,503 and then it's like we just rush 401 00:14:41,503 --> 00:14:41,937 through the rest of 402 00:14:41,937 --> 00:14:42,638 the business. 403 00:14:42,638 --> 00:14:43,304 But with this pollinator stuff 404 00:14:43,304 --> 00:14:46,608 I mean there are things that 405 00:14:46,608 --> 00:14:47,342 are affecting pollinators like 406 00:14:47,342 --> 00:14:51,542 five g like the chem trails and 407 00:14:52,881 --> 00:14:53,649 even things like Roundup that 408 00:14:53,649 --> 00:14:54,316 are being sprayed to you know, 409 00:14:54,316 --> 00:14:57,316 kill certain weeds and stuff 410 00:14:58,854 --> 00:14:59,588 but like there's an effect that 411 00:14:59,588 --> 00:15:00,388 this has on the environment. 412 00:15:00,388 --> 00:15:00,956 And so you know, when we have 413 00:15:00,956 --> 00:15:03,356 people that are into 414 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,260 environmental protection, I 415 00:15:05,260 --> 00:15:05,961 would think that they would be 416 00:15:05,961 --> 00:15:06,628 into geoengineering and making 417 00:15:06,628 --> 00:15:10,228 sure that you know, we don't 418 00:15:10,566 --> 00:15:11,266 have things like that that are 419 00:15:11,266 --> 00:15:11,834 not only detrimental to us as 420 00:15:11,834 --> 00:15:12,301 human beings but also 421 00:15:12,301 --> 00:15:14,301 the environment. 422 00:15:16,872 --> 00:15:17,573 And so you know, bees are 423 00:15:17,573 --> 00:15:18,273 heavily affected by five g and 424 00:15:18,273 --> 00:15:21,873 there aren't as many as there 425 00:15:22,745 --> 00:15:23,344 should be And this is why you 426 00:15:23,344 --> 00:15:24,460 know, the environment is 427 00:15:24,460 --> 00:15:27,646 affected And so it's like you 428 00:15:27,749 --> 00:15:28,517 guys want to talk about climate 429 00:15:28,517 --> 00:15:29,510 change and things like that but 430 00:15:29,510 --> 00:15:31,451 you don't talk about 431 00:15:33,656 --> 00:15:34,423 the manmade weather warfare 432 00:15:34,423 --> 00:15:35,900 that is happening and that is 433 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:37,490 egregious because it's like 434 00:15:39,729 --> 00:15:40,396 that's affecting all of us And 435 00:15:40,396 --> 00:15:41,630 I just don't understand For 436 00:15:41,630 --> 00:15:41,797 people who do claim to care 437 00:15:41,797 --> 00:15:44,797 about the environment then that 438 00:15:46,435 --> 00:15:47,169 stuff should bother you And 439 00:15:47,169 --> 00:15:47,903 it's a disgrace to say this is 440 00:15:47,903 --> 00:15:48,604 pollinators week when there are 441 00:15:48,604 --> 00:15:51,604 things that are happening that 442 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:52,775 are detrimental to them that 443 00:15:52,775 --> 00:15:53,509 could be stopped. 444 00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:54,176 It doesn't have to take place 445 00:15:54,176 --> 00:15:57,176 just like the storms didn't 446 00:15:58,447 --> 00:15:59,115 have to take place. 447 00:15:59,115 --> 00:15:59,849 But when there's you know, 448 00:15:59,849 --> 00:16:02,249 cloud seeding happening there's 449 00:16:04,887 --> 00:16:05,554 detriment that follows And so 450 00:16:05,554 --> 00:16:06,255 it's like if we don't, you 451 00:16:06,255 --> 00:16:06,856 know, acknowledge these things 452 00:16:06,856 --> 00:16:09,856 it's just I mean what's 453 00:16:10,526 --> 00:16:11,293 the point of doing this? 454 00:16:11,293 --> 00:16:11,961 And then for, you know, 455 00:16:11,961 --> 00:16:14,361 the librarian and for 456 00:16:17,333 --> 00:16:18,660 the elementary you know what 457 00:16:18,660 --> 00:16:18,701 bothers me is there's a lot of 458 00:16:18,701 --> 00:16:19,402 sexualization of children 459 00:16:19,402 --> 00:16:19,835 happening in schools And that 460 00:16:19,835 --> 00:16:21,835 is the truth. 461 00:16:23,305 --> 00:16:23,973 It's happening with books and 462 00:16:23,973 --> 00:16:24,273 you know, under the guise of 463 00:16:24,273 --> 00:16:26,273 pride. 464 00:16:28,444 --> 00:16:29,212 But this is very dangerous 465 00:16:29,212 --> 00:16:29,945 because I tell you guys all 466 00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:34,145 the time it leads to a grooming 467 00:16:35,184 --> 00:16:35,885 type of thing that leads kids 468 00:16:35,885 --> 00:16:36,552 to being victims of sexual 469 00:16:36,552 --> 00:16:37,220 assault because an adult can 470 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:41,420 come up to them and talk to 471 00:16:41,491 --> 00:16:42,910 them about things that they 472 00:16:42,910 --> 00:16:42,825 shouldn't know about and 473 00:16:42,825 --> 00:16:43,259 shouldn't be learning in school 474 00:16:43,259 --> 00:16:43,893 even pronouns. 475 00:16:43,893 --> 00:16:46,293 That's not something that 476 00:16:47,330 --> 00:16:48,640 children should be learning. 477 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:48,764 You know, they should be 478 00:16:48,764 --> 00:16:49,432 learning things that are going 479 00:16:49,432 --> 00:16:50,132 to help them in life And it 480 00:16:50,132 --> 00:16:53,732 feels like, you know, kids are 481 00:16:54,604 --> 00:16:55,138 failing because of curriculum 482 00:16:55,138 --> 00:16:55,972 and stuff like this. 483 00:16:55,972 --> 00:16:59,575 So I just feel like if you guys 484 00:16:59,575 --> 00:17:00,276 want to sit here and be so 485 00:17:00,276 --> 00:17:00,910 happy about things, we need to 486 00:17:00,910 --> 00:17:01,377 talk about the underlying 487 00:17:01,377 --> 00:17:01,811 things as well. 488 00:17:01,811 --> 00:17:03,811 >> Thank you. 489 00:17:05,114 --> 00:17:05,918 That does conclude your time. 490 00:17:05,918 --> 00:17:06,248 That concludes in-person public 491 00:17:06,248 --> 00:17:06,916 comment. 492 00:17:06,916 --> 00:17:09,916 I've started the five minute 493 00:17:11,521 --> 00:17:11,820 timer in council in committee 494 00:17:11,820 --> 00:17:12,555 room. 495 00:17:12,555 --> 00:17:13,289 We will now turn to the virtual 496 00:17:13,289 --> 00:17:16,289 queue in which there are 497 00:17:17,327 --> 00:17:17,860 currently three participants 498 00:17:17,860 --> 00:17:18,595 requesting to speak. 499 00:17:18,595 --> 00:17:20,995 Please state which proclamation 500 00:17:23,533 --> 00:17:23,800 item items you wish to speak 501 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,701 to. 502 00:17:24,701 --> 00:17:28,301 We'll go first to caller with 503 00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:30,105 the last four digits 8700 if 504 00:17:30,105 --> 00:17:33,105 you can please unmute please 505 00:17:35,111 --> 00:17:35,478 proceed. 506 00:17:35,478 --> 00:17:36,246 Thank you. 507 00:17:36,246 --> 00:17:39,846 By the way I was applauding 508 00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:42,419 with everyone I'm going to do 509 00:17:42,419 --> 00:17:44,419 all of them. 510 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:47,590 A deputy city clerk Hello? 511 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:47,991 I'm sorry. 512 00:17:47,991 --> 00:17:49,991 I'm sorry. 513 00:17:54,197 --> 00:17:54,898 What was your question And no 514 00:17:54,898 --> 00:17:58,498 question a deputy city Clerk I 515 00:17:59,702 --> 00:18:00,203 will be doing all items. 516 00:18:00,203 --> 00:18:00,503 >> All items. 517 00:18:00,503 --> 00:18:00,870 Okay. 518 00:18:00,870 --> 00:18:01,504 Thank you. 519 00:18:01,504 --> 00:18:02,720 You'll have three minutes. 520 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:02,772 I'm sorry about that. 521 00:18:02,772 --> 00:18:06,376 I think I was kind of muffled. 522 00:18:06,376 --> 00:18:06,676 Okay, so let's start with Bird 523 00:18:06,676 --> 00:18:08,676 Rock. 524 00:18:12,148 --> 00:18:13,160 Oh, my GOD. 525 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:13,883 >> I just Those four faces. 526 00:18:13,883 --> 00:18:17,483 Those faces of the children in 527 00:18:18,988 --> 00:18:19,389 the song I mean, this is 528 00:18:19,389 --> 00:18:19,923 the beauty. 529 00:18:19,923 --> 00:18:22,323 This is the beauty. 530 00:18:24,294 --> 00:18:24,995 This is just part of the whole 531 00:18:24,995 --> 00:18:25,628 circle And I just Thank you. 532 00:18:25,628 --> 00:18:26,329 >> Thank you, You guys and 533 00:18:26,329 --> 00:18:29,929 gals, you were just so great. 534 00:18:30,834 --> 00:18:31,501 You just touched my heart. 535 00:18:31,501 --> 00:18:34,501 I love you so much. 536 00:18:35,739 --> 00:18:36,473 And then on the stage I just 537 00:18:36,473 --> 00:18:37,207 want to say that the very first 538 00:18:37,207 --> 00:18:40,807 speaker who spoke on that and 539 00:18:42,712 --> 00:18:43,413 he just said it so eloquently 540 00:18:43,413 --> 00:18:43,713 and I wanted to thank him for 541 00:18:43,713 --> 00:18:44,448 that. 542 00:18:44,448 --> 00:18:48,480 And Mark Davis, thank you for 543 00:18:48,518 --> 00:18:49,219 making the world better And 544 00:18:49,219 --> 00:18:49,485 then Shawna Anderson, same for 545 00:18:49,485 --> 00:18:51,485 you. 546 00:18:53,956 --> 00:18:54,624 I celebrate you and I thank you 547 00:18:54,624 --> 00:18:57,624 for making the world better. 548 00:18:58,962 --> 00:18:59,662 Now here's the main one for me 549 00:18:59,662 --> 00:19:00,297 today and that is number three 550 00:19:00,297 --> 00:19:02,697 which is pollinator week. 551 00:19:04,835 --> 00:19:05,535 So here we go enabling 552 00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:07,935 the reproduction of flowering 553 00:19:11,441 --> 00:19:12,420 plants standing well into 554 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:14,442 the city usa affiliate. 555 00:19:17,470 --> 00:19:17,481 Love, love, love The mayor's 556 00:19:17,481 --> 00:19:18,115 Bonner Pledge. 557 00:19:18,115 --> 00:19:21,115 Thank you for that, Mayor. 558 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,720 One of the pollinator year 559 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,320 heroes to me is director of 560 00:19:28,992 --> 00:19:29,759 the World Beat Cultural Center 561 00:19:29,759 --> 00:19:30,193 in San Diego's Balboa Park with 562 00:19:30,193 --> 00:19:32,193 Kate Cheatham. 563 00:19:34,964 --> 00:19:35,832 Thank you Makita. 564 00:19:35,832 --> 00:19:36,600 You do beautiful things for San 565 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,600 Diego and you love our 566 00:19:40,871 --> 00:19:41,171 pollinators. 567 00:19:41,171 --> 00:19:41,938 Okay. 568 00:19:41,938 --> 00:19:42,539 And then lastly I want to 569 00:19:42,539 --> 00:19:44,939 suggest that you Google 570 00:19:47,430 --> 00:19:47,711 the image of bees 571 00:19:47,711 --> 00:19:48,344 affectionately called pollen 572 00:19:48,344 --> 00:19:50,744 pants where they carry 573 00:19:54,284 --> 00:19:54,685 the pollen in the nectar back 574 00:19:54,685 --> 00:19:55,352 to the hive. 575 00:19:55,352 --> 00:19:58,352 It's just an amazing thing. 576 00:19:59,957 --> 00:20:02,957 It's actually the little bags 577 00:20:05,796 --> 00:20:06,463 are woven with hair and in just 578 00:20:06,463 --> 00:20:07,364 it's just an amazing thing. 579 00:20:07,364 --> 00:20:11,564 So I celebrate with all of you 580 00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:12,702 a great job in moving in 581 00:20:12,702 --> 00:20:13,403 adapting this morning and 582 00:20:13,403 --> 00:20:17,300 looking forward to the rest of 583 00:20:17,874 --> 00:20:18,275 the day and live to evolve. 584 00:20:18,275 --> 00:20:19,142 Thank you. 585 00:20:19,142 --> 00:20:20,577 Our next speaker is Blair 586 00:20:20,577 --> 00:20:22,577 Beekman. 587 00:20:27,984 --> 00:20:28,384 Please on you. 588 00:20:28,384 --> 00:20:28,819 All right. 589 00:20:28,819 --> 00:20:29,520 We're Beekman. 590 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,920 Happy Tuesday morning to 591 00:20:32,823 --> 00:20:33,724 everyone. 592 00:20:33,724 --> 00:20:34,291 I wanted to speak on item 30. 593 00:20:34,291 --> 00:20:34,592 Just one item today. 594 00:20:34,592 --> 00:20:35,192 Okay. 595 00:20:35,192 --> 00:20:37,592 You'll have one minute. 596 00:20:38,996 --> 00:20:39,865 Thank you. 597 00:20:39,865 --> 00:20:40,631 >> Yeah, I just wanted to thank 598 00:20:40,631 --> 00:20:44,231 yourselves for this item to be 599 00:20:45,268 --> 00:20:46,237 thankful to our butterflies and 600 00:20:46,237 --> 00:20:50,437 bees is a good thing and it's 601 00:20:51,409 --> 00:20:51,943 nice to have to have such a 602 00:20:51,943 --> 00:20:52,342 proclamation for our 603 00:20:52,342 --> 00:20:54,342 pollinators. 604 00:20:57,381 --> 00:20:58,149 Thank you. 605 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:58,849 Thank you For words of the ira 606 00:20:58,849 --> 00:20:59,550 in stressing the importance of 607 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:03,530 all the things we have to 608 00:21:03,530 --> 00:21:03,787 consider so we can continue to 609 00:21:03,787 --> 00:21:07,387 have our flowers and an overall 610 00:21:08,926 --> 00:21:09,627 good luck that as we are all 611 00:21:09,627 --> 00:21:10,294 trying to understand you know 612 00:21:10,294 --> 00:21:12,694 different levels and forces 613 00:21:14,264 --> 00:21:15,320 that kind of hinder us and 614 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:15,900 conflict with us as we try to 615 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:20,100 work on our issues, we try to 616 00:21:21,472 --> 00:21:21,807 find the constructive ness out 617 00:21:21,807 --> 00:21:22,507 of it. 618 00:21:22,507 --> 00:21:23,140 Identifying the weaknesses is 619 00:21:23,140 --> 00:21:23,841 important but then finding 620 00:21:23,841 --> 00:21:26,241 the positive constructive ness 621 00:21:26,711 --> 00:21:27,745 out of it. 622 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:28,446 Good luck how we can do that in 623 00:21:28,446 --> 00:21:29,800 the same public dialog I think 624 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,680 that can be a good thing. 625 00:21:33,383 --> 00:21:33,684 I try to practice how to do 626 00:21:33,684 --> 00:21:34,352 that. 627 00:21:34,352 --> 00:21:35,520 Good luck from the negative 628 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,652 Speak of the positive it makes 629 00:21:39,423 --> 00:21:39,891 for good meeting. 630 00:21:39,891 --> 00:21:40,291 >> Thank you. 631 00:21:40,291 --> 00:21:40,992 Thank you. 632 00:21:40,992 --> 00:21:43,392 Next speakers Kathleen Lippert 633 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,502 please begin. 634 00:21:51,502 --> 00:21:52,202 >> Thank you. 635 00:21:52,202 --> 00:21:52,870 Good morning Council And thank 636 00:21:52,870 --> 00:21:55,870 you for this proclamation of 637 00:21:57,308 --> 00:21:57,608 the colony for the pollinators 638 00:21:57,608 --> 00:21:58,275 . 639 00:21:58,275 --> 00:21:58,642 I wanted to speak about 640 00:21:58,642 --> 00:21:59,277 phenology. 641 00:21:59,277 --> 00:21:59,844 It's the timing of endemic 642 00:21:59,844 --> 00:22:02,244 plant species and it's 643 00:22:03,614 --> 00:22:04,315 essential to understanding 644 00:22:04,315 --> 00:22:05,150 their growth cycles and which 645 00:22:05,150 --> 00:22:08,150 have evolved to be compatible 646 00:22:09,854 --> 00:22:10,587 with flowering fruiting plants 647 00:22:10,587 --> 00:22:10,922 ,bird migrations and endemic 648 00:22:10,922 --> 00:22:11,623 insects. 649 00:22:11,623 --> 00:22:15,223 If you have a pollinator with 650 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,427 nothing to pollinate 651 00:22:16,427 --> 00:22:17,270 the pollinator dies fruiting 652 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:19,427 and flowering and native 653 00:22:22,133 --> 00:22:22,934 natural environments evolve to 654 00:22:22,934 --> 00:22:23,267 be compatible so they can all 655 00:22:23,267 --> 00:22:24,200 survive. 656 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,200 That process is disrupted when 657 00:22:28,172 --> 00:22:28,806 endemic insect and species are 658 00:22:28,806 --> 00:22:31,206 replaced with things like 659 00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:34,612 marijuana and hemp growth that 660 00:22:34,612 --> 00:22:35,345 are not native. 661 00:22:35,345 --> 00:22:35,947 They consume massive amounts of 662 00:22:35,947 --> 00:22:36,347 water and are grown with 663 00:22:36,347 --> 00:22:38,347 pesticides. 664 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:40,819 Insecticides and herbicides 665 00:22:40,819 --> 00:22:41,385 that will poison native plants, 666 00:22:41,385 --> 00:22:43,385 insects and wildlife. 667 00:22:46,591 --> 00:22:47,225 Those who care enough to 668 00:22:47,225 --> 00:22:47,926 proclaim the importance of 669 00:22:47,926 --> 00:22:50,326 pollinators for a proclamation 670 00:22:52,530 --> 00:22:53,231 should recognize these harms 671 00:22:53,231 --> 00:22:55,631 address reference to something 672 00:22:57,368 --> 00:22:58,136 that does conclude your time. 673 00:22:58,136 --> 00:23:01,136 Our next speaker is Tony. 674 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:15,854 Please begin Just Tony we can't 675 00:23:15,854 --> 00:23:18,254 hear you very well. 676 00:23:21,259 --> 00:23:21,593 We can hear like a tiny little 677 00:23:21,593 --> 00:23:22,527 bit. 678 00:23:22,527 --> 00:23:26,727 Can you turn up the volume or 679 00:23:28,667 --> 00:23:29,701 something That's better. 680 00:23:29,701 --> 00:23:33,301 >> You got to go into morning's 681 00:23:33,972 --> 00:23:34,672 council. 682 00:23:34,672 --> 00:23:35,440 How are you doing today? 683 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,640 I'm just calling to say that I. 684 00:23:40,912 --> 00:23:41,580 I support the people which and 685 00:23:41,580 --> 00:23:44,580 all the initiatives to bring 686 00:23:45,584 --> 00:23:46,284 attention and highlight all 687 00:23:46,284 --> 00:23:46,751 the actions in support of bees 688 00:23:46,751 --> 00:23:48,751 and pollination. 689 00:23:51,188 --> 00:23:51,923 Pollination plays an essential 690 00:23:51,923 --> 00:23:52,623 role Food production supporting 691 00:23:52,623 --> 00:23:56,223 local bees that are needed to 692 00:23:57,395 --> 00:23:58,129 the area is super important. 693 00:23:58,129 --> 00:23:58,797 Honey bees often get all 694 00:23:58,797 --> 00:24:02,397 the credit and they get all 695 00:24:03,936 --> 00:24:04,703 the glory But we have we have 696 00:24:04,703 --> 00:24:05,404 to be and a number of other 697 00:24:05,404 --> 00:24:08,404 native bees that actually grow 698 00:24:09,541 --> 00:24:10,307 inside the ground And the more 699 00:24:10,307 --> 00:24:13,907 that we expand the cities and 700 00:24:15,446 --> 00:24:16,114 the more that we are able for 701 00:24:16,114 --> 00:24:16,848 everything in the country of 702 00:24:16,848 --> 00:24:19,848 everything we're getting rid of 703 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,320 the spaces where the growth is 704 00:24:27,659 --> 00:24:28,426 Not all bees burrow in hives in 705 00:24:28,426 --> 00:24:28,927 big colonies like that We want 706 00:24:28,927 --> 00:24:31,327 to be honey bees. 707 00:24:33,365 --> 00:24:34,990 You want to know on that side. 708 00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:34,500 >> Thank you for your time. 709 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:35,200 Thank you. 710 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,200 That does conclude your time. 711 00:24:39,204 --> 00:24:39,838 I will note for the record 712 00:24:39,838 --> 00:24:40,572 the five minute timer has 713 00:24:40,572 --> 00:24:41,600 concluded with one speaker left 714 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:41,640 in the queue. 715 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:41,940 No other speakers will be 716 00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:43,940 taken. 717 00:24:50,148 --> 00:24:50,816 Natalie Raskin Please begin. 718 00:24:50,816 --> 00:24:51,516 >> Hey good morning. 719 00:24:51,516 --> 00:24:52,160 Thank you for having me today. 720 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,160 It's Natalie Rush. 721 00:24:55,887 --> 00:24:56,555 I just wanted to comment on 722 00:24:56,555 --> 00:24:57,289 the Bee the Pollinator week. 723 00:24:57,289 --> 00:25:00,289 It's contradictory that we have 724 00:25:01,159 --> 00:25:01,894 this week but yet we still 725 00:25:01,894 --> 00:25:02,594 spray our skies with chemicals. 726 00:25:02,594 --> 00:25:06,194 I live in a big apartment 727 00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:08,267 complex and I even have 728 00:25:08,267 --> 00:25:08,901 pictures where they come in 729 00:25:08,901 --> 00:25:11,901 every summer and spray all 730 00:25:13,972 --> 00:25:14,673 the plants and we have massive 731 00:25:14,673 --> 00:25:15,140 amount of dead bees in 732 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:15,707 the parking lot. 733 00:25:15,707 --> 00:25:16,408 So we're going to have 734 00:25:16,408 --> 00:25:19,408 pollinator week where we also 735 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:20,679 going to do to protect them in 736 00:25:20,679 --> 00:25:23,679 areas such as the apartment 737 00:25:24,949 --> 00:25:25,618 complex who's using what 738 00:25:25,618 --> 00:25:28,618 chemicals to kill these bees 739 00:25:31,757 --> 00:25:32,624 and why we spray our skies. 740 00:25:32,624 --> 00:25:32,992 They want to see contrails or 741 00:25:32,992 --> 00:25:33,459 contrails? 742 00:25:33,459 --> 00:25:35,859 Which one is it? 743 00:25:37,228 --> 00:25:37,997 Because when we spray the skies 744 00:25:37,997 --> 00:25:40,997 we're spraying our children to 745 00:25:43,369 --> 00:25:43,836 fix. 746 00:25:43,836 --> 00:25:44,469 >> Thank you. 747 00:25:44,469 --> 00:25:45,170 That concludes the public 748 00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:47,570 comment on proclamation items. 749 00:25:48,874 --> 00:25:49,541 All right. 750 00:25:49,541 --> 00:25:50,276 Thank you, Deputy Clerk I'll 751 00:25:50,276 --> 00:25:53,276 kick off council member comment 752 00:25:55,648 --> 00:25:56,348 and move the proclamation Item 753 00:25:56,348 --> 00:25:57,820 three Pollinator work As we've 754 00:25:57,820 --> 00:26:00,820 heard in partnership with Mayor 755 00:26:01,921 --> 00:26:02,554 Gloria, this proclamation 756 00:26:02,554 --> 00:26:03,255 sustains the buzz that San 757 00:26:03,255 --> 00:26:03,989 Diego values its environmental 758 00:26:03,989 --> 00:26:07,589 impact as a designated bee city 759 00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:09,128 pollinators are proof that 760 00:26:09,128 --> 00:26:09,829 sometimes even the smallest 761 00:26:09,829 --> 00:26:10,396 constituents have the biggest 762 00:26:10,396 --> 00:26:11,970 impact And without our 763 00:26:11,970 --> 00:26:13,497 pollinators and native plants 764 00:26:14,433 --> 00:26:15,101 that go hand in hand to support 765 00:26:15,101 --> 00:26:15,768 our biodiversity, our local 766 00:26:15,768 --> 00:26:18,768 food system and economy, San 767 00:26:19,572 --> 00:26:20,272 Diego would not have 768 00:26:20,272 --> 00:26:20,840 the vibrant ecosystem that we 769 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,440 know and love without 770 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,141 pollinators from bees to 771 00:26:22,141 --> 00:26:24,541 butterflies and everything in 772 00:26:26,445 --> 00:26:27,112 between we rely heavily on 773 00:26:27,112 --> 00:26:27,579 these pollinators to sustain 774 00:26:27,579 --> 00:26:28,180 our communities. 775 00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:28,848 It is important that we 776 00:26:28,848 --> 00:26:31,848 continue to do everything we 777 00:26:33,252 --> 00:26:33,986 can in San Diego to protect our 778 00:26:33,986 --> 00:26:34,553 diverse ecosystem from the many 779 00:26:34,553 --> 00:26:35,187 challenges that their 780 00:26:35,187 --> 00:26:37,187 pollinators face including 781 00:26:38,524 --> 00:26:39,392 climate change. 782 00:26:39,392 --> 00:26:39,959 And I know my staff is taking 783 00:26:39,959 --> 00:26:40,660 notes based on some of 784 00:26:40,660 --> 00:26:43,660 the comments the public made. 785 00:26:44,696 --> 00:26:45,230 Thank you to all the scientists 786 00:26:45,230 --> 00:26:45,898 ,biologists, local 787 00:26:45,898 --> 00:26:46,532 environmental organizations, 788 00:26:46,532 --> 00:26:47,199 the volunteers who make it 789 00:26:47,199 --> 00:26:50,199 their mission to protect our 790 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:51,704 cities pollinators and keep say 791 00:26:51,704 --> 00:26:54,704 the thriving and special thank 792 00:26:56,309 --> 00:26:56,942 you to Professor DR. James Nye 793 00:26:56,942 --> 00:26:57,510 for your research and your 794 00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:59,910 passion in this area. 795 00:27:01,380 --> 00:27:01,948 Item 5a1 word Rock Elementary 796 00:27:01,948 --> 00:27:02,515 75th Anniversary day. 797 00:27:02,515 --> 00:27:04,515 So congratulations to 798 00:27:06,586 --> 00:27:07,286 the school for 75 years of 799 00:27:07,286 --> 00:27:08,200 service to the Youth Alliance 800 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,200 San Diego through education and 801 00:27:12,691 --> 00:27:13,626 innovation. 802 00:27:13,626 --> 00:27:14,260 As many of you know, Bird Rock 803 00:27:14,260 --> 00:27:14,927 Elementary holds a special 804 00:27:14,927 --> 00:27:17,630 place in my family's heart. 805 00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:18,398 My wife taught there for more 806 00:27:18,398 --> 00:27:19,320 than 25 years and my children 807 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,320 attended their elementary 808 00:27:23,235 --> 00:27:23,769 school years there being able 809 00:27:23,769 --> 00:27:24,403 to witness firsthand 810 00:27:24,403 --> 00:27:25,104 the dedication of care for 811 00:27:25,104 --> 00:27:25,805 the school and staff put into 812 00:27:25,805 --> 00:27:29,544 our youth is worthy to take a 813 00:27:29,544 --> 00:27:30,142 moment to celebrate this 814 00:27:30,142 --> 00:27:30,843 anniversary recognizing 815 00:27:30,843 --> 00:27:31,477 the leadership and teachers of 816 00:27:31,477 --> 00:27:35,770 the past to those who are 817 00:27:35,615 --> 00:27:36,249 leading and will lead to 818 00:27:36,249 --> 00:27:36,649 the school forward and to 819 00:27:36,649 --> 00:27:37,349 the parents. 820 00:27:37,349 --> 00:27:41,540 This is the first place that I 821 00:27:41,540 --> 00:27:41,421 did Community volunteer work so 822 00:27:41,421 --> 00:27:42,155 who knows? 823 00:27:42,155 --> 00:27:42,455 You do some community volunteer 824 00:27:42,455 --> 00:27:43,222 work. 825 00:27:43,222 --> 00:27:46,726 You end up as an elected 826 00:27:46,726 --> 00:27:47,560 official. 827 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,328 I don't that's bad or good but 828 00:27:48,328 --> 00:27:52,198 at least that was my path away 829 00:27:52,198 --> 00:27:52,832 from earning multiple awards 830 00:27:52,832 --> 00:27:53,566 and honors as a California 831 00:27:53,566 --> 00:27:54,267 Distinguished School and one of 832 00:27:54,267 --> 00:27:56,267 America's healthiest schools, 833 00:27:57,136 --> 00:27:57,837 Murdoch Elementary continues to 834 00:27:57,837 --> 00:27:58,504 foster a thriving, supportive 835 00:27:58,504 --> 00:28:00,904 and premier community where 836 00:28:03,309 --> 00:28:04,430 students feel encouraged to 837 00:28:04,430 --> 00:28:04,744 learn and succeed leading today 838 00:28:04,744 --> 00:28:05,211 and sustaining high standards 839 00:28:05,211 --> 00:28:07,211 for students and 840 00:28:08,381 --> 00:28:11,381 the communities is the school's 841 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,487 principal DR. Eric How DR. 842 00:28:14,487 --> 00:28:16,887 Bennett remains committed to 843 00:28:19,392 --> 00:28:19,993 ensuring the same Scuse me 844 00:28:19,993 --> 00:28:20,693 The Byrd Rock Elementary 845 00:28:20,693 --> 00:28:21,427 continues to be a place where 846 00:28:21,427 --> 00:28:24,427 students and parents alike feel 847 00:28:24,698 --> 00:28:25,298 confident and connected and 848 00:28:25,298 --> 00:28:25,966 with administrators like 849 00:28:25,966 --> 00:28:28,366 Principal DR. Bennett, staff 850 00:28:31,171 --> 00:28:31,738 teachers and parents Byrd Rock 851 00:28:31,738 --> 00:28:32,439 Elementary It's upheld 852 00:28:32,439 --> 00:28:32,739 the standards over the past 75 853 00:28:32,739 --> 00:28:34,739 years. 854 00:28:35,307 --> 00:28:36,900 Today we celebrate tomorrow I 855 00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,609 know you continue to work on 856 00:28:41,747 --> 00:28:42,449 behalf of the students Event 857 00:28:42,449 --> 00:28:43,149 Item 31 Shawn Anderson Day in 858 00:28:43,149 --> 00:28:45,149 partnership with Councilmember 859 00:28:45,986 --> 00:28:46,753 Yvonne Wolpert. 860 00:28:46,753 --> 00:28:47,420 I congratulate and thank John 861 00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:50,420 Anderson for her work and 862 00:28:50,656 --> 00:28:51,358 commitment of 26 years to 863 00:28:51,358 --> 00:28:51,925 the San Diego River Park With 864 00:28:51,925 --> 00:28:54,925 the past six years as 865 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:56,763 the executive Director of 866 00:28:56,763 --> 00:28:57,497 the Joint Powers Authority, 867 00:28:57,497 --> 00:29:00,497 Shauna has been consistently at 868 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:01,768 the forefront for local 869 00:29:01,768 --> 00:29:02,502 environmental protections and 870 00:29:02,502 --> 00:29:05,502 open space advocacy in District 871 00:29:06,873 --> 00:29:07,541 one from securing over $6 872 00:29:07,541 --> 00:29:08,175 million in state and federal 873 00:29:08,175 --> 00:29:08,875 funding for regional trail 874 00:29:08,875 --> 00:29:11,875 projects to being a respected 875 00:29:11,978 --> 00:29:12,712 leader to her peers and staff, 876 00:29:12,712 --> 00:29:13,380 she provided critical oversight 877 00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:15,780 on major habitat restoration 878 00:29:17,684 --> 00:29:18,285 projects built by others. 879 00:29:18,285 --> 00:29:18,952 But now with management 880 00:29:18,952 --> 00:29:20,952 responsibility, she drove 881 00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:23,723 critical advances to the long 882 00:29:23,723 --> 00:29:27,323 term build out of the 71 mile 883 00:29:27,694 --> 00:29:28,462 Coast to Coast Crest Trail with 884 00:29:28,462 --> 00:29:29,195 now 50 miles already in place, 885 00:29:29,195 --> 00:29:32,195 she transformed long term plans 886 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:34,134 into groundbreaking projects 887 00:29:34,134 --> 00:29:34,768 that expand environmental 888 00:29:34,768 --> 00:29:37,168 access and restore natural 889 00:29:39,390 --> 00:29:39,773 habitat because of her 890 00:29:39,773 --> 00:29:40,473 residents and visitors are able 891 00:29:40,473 --> 00:29:44,730 to experience more of what San 892 00:29:44,478 --> 00:29:44,778 Diego and the region has to 893 00:29:44,778 --> 00:29:45,412 offer. 894 00:29:45,412 --> 00:29:46,112 Thank you Shauna for your 895 00:29:46,112 --> 00:29:49,112 exceptional work with the San 896 00:29:49,450 --> 00:29:50,150 Diego jpa and everything that 897 00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:50,751 you've done for our city. 898 00:29:50,751 --> 00:29:51,150 Congratulations on your 899 00:29:51,150 --> 00:29:51,985 retirement. 900 00:29:51,985 --> 00:29:56,185 Would you like to offer a few 901 00:30:01,695 --> 00:30:02,620 words? 902 00:30:02,620 --> 00:30:02,829 Thank you. 903 00:30:02,829 --> 00:30:05,829 Council PRESIDENT Joe LaCava I 904 00:30:07,368 --> 00:30:08,350 really like the connection 905 00:30:08,350 --> 00:30:08,635 between Pollinator Week and 906 00:30:08,635 --> 00:30:11,635 the San Diego River Park 907 00:30:12,639 --> 00:30:13,340 because protecting our open 908 00:30:13,340 --> 00:30:16,340 spaces and our river valleys 909 00:30:17,377 --> 00:30:18,112 through the San Diego region is 910 00:30:18,112 --> 00:30:21,112 so critical to our pollinators. 911 00:30:22,216 --> 00:30:22,916 I'd like to thank the city of 912 00:30:22,916 --> 00:30:26,516 San Diego for your years of 913 00:30:27,354 --> 00:30:28,550 support for the jpa 914 00:30:28,550 --> 00:30:30,455 particularly two board members 915 00:30:31,825 --> 00:30:32,492 current board board members Joe 916 00:30:32,492 --> 00:30:33,160 LaCava and Marni von Wilpert 917 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:33,794 who've been on the board of 918 00:30:33,794 --> 00:30:36,363 the jpa since I've been 919 00:30:36,363 --> 00:30:37,130 the director. 920 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:40,730 And for all your passion and 921 00:30:41,735 --> 00:30:42,436 engagement as we navigate 922 00:30:42,436 --> 00:30:44,836 the challenges protecting our 923 00:30:46,974 --> 00:30:47,675 open spaces 35 miles of those 924 00:30:47,675 --> 00:30:50,675 50 miles of the Coastal Crest 925 00:30:51,712 --> 00:30:52,446 Trail and other trails in 926 00:30:52,446 --> 00:30:53,130 the park are within the city of 927 00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:55,413 San Diego City limits. 928 00:30:56,951 --> 00:30:57,618 I'd like to add to the team 929 00:30:57,618 --> 00:30:58,285 effort and I'd like to 930 00:30:58,285 --> 00:30:58,819 acknowledge some of our jpa 931 00:30:58,819 --> 00:31:01,219 staff that are here. 932 00:31:01,588 --> 00:31:02,356 Please raise your hand. 933 00:31:02,356 --> 00:31:02,957 We have a wonderful team of 934 00:31:02,957 --> 00:31:05,357 only 12 people and we 935 00:31:06,826 --> 00:31:07,595 accomplished so much. 936 00:31:07,595 --> 00:31:08,620 I'd like to thank my family 937 00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:08,662 who's also here. 938 00:31:08,662 --> 00:31:11,620 Please raise your hand. 939 00:31:12,533 --> 00:31:13,234 I like to say that I've raised 940 00:31:13,234 --> 00:31:16,437 my kids at the San Diego River 941 00:31:16,437 --> 00:31:17,371 Park and it's true. 942 00:31:17,371 --> 00:31:21,571 Uh, finally I'd like to give a 943 00:31:22,109 --> 00:31:22,709 quick thank you to the first 944 00:31:22,709 --> 00:31:23,411 responders and the fire 945 00:31:23,411 --> 00:31:27,110 department of the city of San 946 00:31:29,417 --> 00:31:30,117 Diego Yesterday a brush fire 947 00:31:30,117 --> 00:31:33,117 appeared next to Lake Hodges 948 00:31:34,455 --> 00:31:35,122 and thanks to the firefighters 949 00:31:35,122 --> 00:31:35,923 and first responders it was 950 00:31:35,923 --> 00:31:39,523 only a brush fire was contained 951 00:31:40,940 --> 00:31:40,795 within, you know, just a short 952 00:31:40,795 --> 00:31:43,195 time And thankfully protecting 953 00:31:44,465 --> 00:31:44,899 the San the important San Diego 954 00:31:44,899 --> 00:31:45,466 River Valley. 955 00:31:45,466 --> 00:31:48,466 So thank you so much. 956 00:31:49,537 --> 00:31:49,971 I appreciate the recognition. 957 00:31:49,971 --> 00:31:50,471 >> All right. 958 00:31:50,471 --> 00:31:51,138 Thank you, John. 959 00:31:51,138 --> 00:31:53,138 Again, congratulations that 960 00:31:58,579 --> 00:31:59,380 your time and again I will move 961 00:31:59,380 --> 00:31:59,981 the proclamation and we'll go 962 00:31:59,981 --> 00:32:00,248 to Councilmember Foster. 963 00:32:00,248 --> 00:32:02,248 Yes. 964 00:32:03,484 --> 00:32:04,185 Thank you, council PRESIDENT. 965 00:32:04,185 --> 00:32:06,585 And just a quick 966 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:08,722 congratulations to all of 967 00:32:08,722 --> 00:32:11,122 the folks and organizations 968 00:32:13,270 --> 00:32:13,528 that are being recognized for 969 00:32:13,528 --> 00:32:15,528 the proclamations. 970 00:32:16,731 --> 00:32:17,598 I would like to speak briefly 971 00:32:17,598 --> 00:32:18,299 on item 30 and as five of four 972 00:32:18,299 --> 00:32:20,699 first starting with pollinator 973 00:32:22,170 --> 00:32:22,870 week 2026, just what we'd like 974 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:25,870 to thank you council PRESIDENT 975 00:32:26,841 --> 00:32:27,475 And the mayor's office for 976 00:32:27,475 --> 00:32:27,809 bringing this proclamation 977 00:32:27,809 --> 00:32:29,809 forward. 978 00:32:31,246 --> 00:32:31,946 Also just want to recognize a 979 00:32:31,946 --> 00:32:32,580 very special place in District 980 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:35,580 four known as the Paradise 981 00:32:36,284 --> 00:32:37,850 Hills Native Garden It with 982 00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:40,685 the work of your office and 983 00:32:41,257 --> 00:32:41,956 the mayor's office it has been 984 00:32:41,956 --> 00:32:44,956 incorporated into the city of 985 00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:46,127 San Diego's Bee City program 986 00:32:46,127 --> 00:32:49,898 And so it is just such a 987 00:32:49,898 --> 00:32:50,498 beautiful place And I say you 988 00:32:50,498 --> 00:32:51,232 know we talk about 989 00:32:51,232 --> 00:32:54,232 the resiliency of District four 990 00:32:54,903 --> 00:32:55,770 that Native Garden is actually 991 00:32:55,770 --> 00:32:56,304 built on an old landfill And so 992 00:32:56,304 --> 00:32:58,704 you can only imagine 993 00:32:59,706 --> 00:33:00,575 the challenges that go along 994 00:33:00,575 --> 00:33:03,812 with that as you can only, you 995 00:33:03,812 --> 00:33:04,345 know, penetrate to certain 996 00:33:04,345 --> 00:33:05,180 levels and degrees. 997 00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:09,150 And I tell you they have really 998 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:09,884 found a way to to make that 999 00:33:09,884 --> 00:33:13,484 into a view to beautiful space. 1000 00:33:13,587 --> 00:33:14,289 Not only do they have to be 1001 00:33:14,289 --> 00:33:14,989 part of the bee garden that 1002 00:33:14,989 --> 00:33:17,992 they that they have out there 1003 00:33:17,992 --> 00:33:18,693 but they also have 1004 00:33:18,693 --> 00:33:19,461 the butterfly garden as well. 1005 00:33:19,461 --> 00:33:20,227 So if you ever have a chance 1006 00:33:20,227 --> 00:33:23,164 you like gardening please stop 1007 00:33:23,164 --> 00:33:23,798 by The Paradise Hills Native 1008 00:33:23,798 --> 00:33:24,632 Garden is just a beautiful 1009 00:33:24,632 --> 00:33:27,935 space and I say it's kind of 1010 00:33:27,935 --> 00:33:28,703 like the zoo. 1011 00:33:28,703 --> 00:33:29,371 They have all these species out 1012 00:33:29,371 --> 00:33:32,240 there with all names of this 1013 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,907 species and it's really a 1014 00:33:32,907 --> 00:33:33,341 beautiful educational place. 1015 00:33:33,341 --> 00:33:35,341 So thank you. 1016 00:33:36,778 --> 00:33:37,545 Just a big shout out to Nancy 1017 00:33:37,545 --> 00:33:38,246 and West Jansen for and all 1018 00:33:38,246 --> 00:33:38,913 the volunteers for everything 1019 00:33:38,913 --> 00:33:41,913 that takes place at Paradise 1020 00:33:42,617 --> 00:33:45,617 Hills Garden Also as 504 Mark 1021 00:33:47,322 --> 00:33:51,392 Davis Day Um yeah Give him a 1022 00:33:51,392 --> 00:33:52,160 round of applause. 1023 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:52,961 >> I'm proud to bring proud 1024 00:33:52,961 --> 00:33:55,961 Hello Proud to bring this 1025 00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:56,731 proclamation forward with Mayor 1026 00:33:56,731 --> 00:33:57,431 Todd Glory to recognize Mark 1027 00:33:57,431 --> 00:34:00,431 Davis day and celebrate a 1028 00:34:00,936 --> 00:34:04,239 career that has meant so much 1029 00:34:04,239 --> 00:34:04,872 to all park in our city for 1030 00:34:04,872 --> 00:34:05,540 nearly four decades, Marc 1031 00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:06,241 dedicated himself to public 1032 00:34:06,241 --> 00:34:09,241 service and to creating spaces 1033 00:34:09,811 --> 00:34:10,445 where people could learn, 1034 00:34:10,445 --> 00:34:11,179 connect and feel welcomed. 1035 00:34:11,179 --> 00:34:15,500 And if you ever been out to 1036 00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:15,617 the Oak Park Library and 1037 00:34:15,617 --> 00:34:16,318 the and the friends of 1038 00:34:16,318 --> 00:34:19,554 the library in the events, it 1039 00:34:19,554 --> 00:34:20,187 is truly truly a place that 1040 00:34:20,187 --> 00:34:22,187 brings committee community 1041 00:34:24,659 --> 00:34:25,527 together for fellowship. 1042 00:34:25,527 --> 00:34:29,127 As we know libraries are our 1043 00:34:29,665 --> 00:34:30,365 anchor in our community and 1044 00:34:30,365 --> 00:34:33,365 again special places where we 1045 00:34:34,502 --> 00:34:35,203 open the doors and just create 1046 00:34:35,203 --> 00:34:35,637 fellowship and opportunity for 1047 00:34:35,637 --> 00:34:36,237 our residents. 1048 00:34:36,237 --> 00:34:38,637 And Mark understood that 1049 00:34:39,574 --> 00:34:40,308 through his leadership in 1050 00:34:40,308 --> 00:34:40,876 partnership with the Friends of 1051 00:34:40,876 --> 00:34:41,543 the Oak Park Library, 1052 00:34:41,543 --> 00:34:44,112 the branch became a trusted 1053 00:34:44,112 --> 00:34:44,780 community space and brought 1054 00:34:44,780 --> 00:34:45,480 people together and created 1055 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,480 opportunities for generations 1056 00:34:48,917 --> 00:34:49,618 of residents And we see that 1057 00:34:49,618 --> 00:34:49,918 impact directly in our office 1058 00:34:49,918 --> 00:34:51,918 today. 1059 00:34:53,222 --> 00:34:53,989 As you saw through the efforts 1060 00:34:53,989 --> 00:34:57,589 there and my my engagement with 1061 00:34:58,260 --> 00:34:58,927 the Oak Park community and 1062 00:34:58,927 --> 00:34:59,595 the friends of the Oak Park 1063 00:34:59,595 --> 00:35:02,595 Library Jackson that came up 1064 00:35:03,132 --> 00:35:03,899 and gave comment is now an 1065 00:35:03,899 --> 00:35:07,502 intern in my office and he made 1066 00:35:07,502 --> 00:35:08,203 it very adamant that he wanted 1067 00:35:08,203 --> 00:35:08,971 getting around that he wanted 1068 00:35:08,971 --> 00:35:12,571 to be here today to recognize 1069 00:35:12,841 --> 00:35:13,409 Mark So just really want to 1070 00:35:13,409 --> 00:35:14,142 just really appreciate 1071 00:35:14,142 --> 00:35:17,142 the partnership Mark built with 1072 00:35:17,446 --> 00:35:18,113 the community libraries staff 1073 00:35:18,113 --> 00:35:18,847 and his commitment to making 1074 00:35:18,847 --> 00:35:21,950 sure the future of the Oak Park 1075 00:35:21,950 --> 00:35:22,651 Library reflected the needs of 1076 00:35:22,651 --> 00:35:22,918 the people who use it every 1077 00:35:22,918 --> 00:35:24,918 day. 1078 00:35:26,988 --> 00:35:27,656 So on behalf of District four 1079 00:35:27,656 --> 00:35:28,389 and the Oak Park Community 1080 00:35:28,389 --> 00:35:31,694 Friends of the Oak Park Library 1081 00:35:31,694 --> 00:35:32,294 and the City of San Diego Marc 1082 00:35:32,294 --> 00:35:32,961 just thank you for your 1083 00:35:32,961 --> 00:35:35,361 service, your leadership and 1084 00:35:36,197 --> 00:35:37,660 for everything you have given 1085 00:35:37,660 --> 00:35:37,366 to Oak Park and the city of San 1086 00:35:37,366 --> 00:35:39,366 Diego. 1087 00:35:41,337 --> 00:35:42,370 And I just want you to really 1088 00:35:42,370 --> 00:35:45,637 enjoy this next chapter and it 1089 00:35:45,907 --> 00:35:46,575 is well deserved And of course 1090 00:35:46,575 --> 00:35:48,777 you are invited and want to 1091 00:35:48,777 --> 00:35:53,577 make sure we see you at the new 1092 00:35:54,216 --> 00:35:54,817 Oak Park opening when we get 1093 00:35:54,817 --> 00:35:56,817 that building completed. 1094 00:35:58,187 --> 00:35:58,621 So looking forward to having 1095 00:35:58,621 --> 00:35:59,454 you there. 1096 00:35:59,454 --> 00:36:02,792 Mark would you like to say a 1097 00:36:02,792 --> 00:36:03,159 few words If you want. 1098 00:36:03,159 --> 00:36:05,159 Okay. 1099 00:36:17,540 --> 00:36:18,740 Please. 1100 00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:18,841 All right coworkers. 1101 00:36:18,841 --> 00:36:19,875 It might have been nice if you 1102 00:36:19,875 --> 00:36:24,675 let me know that I was going to 1103 00:36:26,949 --> 00:36:27,278 be speaking today ahead of time 1104 00:36:27,278 --> 00:36:27,917 . 1105 00:36:27,917 --> 00:36:30,317 Know our libraries are 1106 00:36:31,988 --> 00:36:32,621 definitely are hubs to our 1107 00:36:32,621 --> 00:36:33,188 communities more than just 1108 00:36:33,188 --> 00:36:35,188 places for educational 1109 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:37,860 materials but they are 1110 00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:40,860 community centers and I'm very 1111 00:36:41,898 --> 00:36:42,765 happy and proud to have been 1112 00:36:42,765 --> 00:36:46,468 able to work in one and and 1113 00:36:46,468 --> 00:36:47,336 serve a community in the city. 1114 00:36:47,336 --> 00:36:50,973 And I want to remind you guys, 1115 00:36:50,973 --> 00:36:51,673 a dollar for dollar investments 1116 00:36:51,673 --> 00:36:52,375 in libraries is probably more 1117 00:36:52,375 --> 00:36:54,775 effective than fighting crime 1118 00:36:55,611 --> 00:36:56,545 than investment in police. 1119 00:36:56,545 --> 00:36:59,545 >> So thank you for restoring 1120 00:36:59,948 --> 00:37:00,449 as much of the library funding 1121 00:37:00,449 --> 00:37:02,849 as you were able. 1122 00:37:04,987 --> 00:37:05,388 >> I appreciate it. 1123 00:37:05,388 --> 00:37:06,155 Thank you. 1124 00:37:06,155 --> 00:37:09,755 Thank you so much tonight And 1125 00:37:09,826 --> 00:37:10,793 I'm sure I'm sure Anita Chavez 1126 00:37:10,793 --> 00:37:14,993 will be giving you a big giant 1127 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:15,632 hug as you retired But looking 1128 00:37:15,632 --> 00:37:18,632 forward to having you at 1129 00:37:19,135 --> 00:37:19,468 the opening of the New Oak Park 1130 00:37:19,468 --> 00:37:20,102 Library. 1131 00:37:20,102 --> 00:37:23,702 So with that I will second 1132 00:37:23,973 --> 00:37:24,573 the motion and thank you for 1133 00:37:24,573 --> 00:37:24,908 the opportunity Counsel 1134 00:37:24,908 --> 00:37:25,274 present. 1135 00:37:25,274 --> 00:37:25,642 All right. 1136 00:37:25,642 --> 00:37:27,642 Thank you. 1137 00:37:28,978 --> 00:37:29,745 So we have a motion by myself 1138 00:37:29,745 --> 00:37:30,446 and a second by Councilmember 1139 00:37:30,446 --> 00:37:31,147 Foster and with a proclamation 1140 00:37:31,147 --> 00:37:33,449 so I don't see anybody else on 1141 00:37:33,449 --> 00:37:34,117 the lights So please call 1142 00:37:34,117 --> 00:37:34,750 the roll Deputy Clerk I have 1143 00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:37,750 set up the voting system. 1144 00:37:47,196 --> 00:37:47,997 Please cast your vote. 1145 00:37:47,997 --> 00:37:50,397 Councilmember Weprin, could you 1146 00:37:50,867 --> 00:37:51,201 state your vote for the record, 1147 00:37:51,201 --> 00:37:53,201 please? 1148 00:38:00,709 --> 00:38:01,411 >> Thank you. 1149 00:38:01,411 --> 00:38:03,811 The item passes unanimously 1150 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:04,380 with the council District five 1151 00:38:04,380 --> 00:38:04,814 absent. 1152 00:38:04,814 --> 00:38:06,814 >> All right. 1153 00:38:08,885 --> 00:38:09,652 Thank you for that for continue 1154 00:38:09,652 --> 00:38:13,252 to ask the indulgence of those 1155 00:38:13,556 --> 00:38:14,324 assembled here. 1156 00:38:14,324 --> 00:38:15,191 We're going to pause briefly to 1157 00:38:15,191 --> 00:38:18,128 go out in the chamber to take 1158 00:38:18,128 --> 00:38:18,828 pictures with the four 1159 00:38:18,828 --> 00:38:19,529 recipient of the proclamations 1160 00:38:19,529 --> 00:38:22,532 anybody who wants to come into 1161 00:38:22,532 --> 00:38:23,232 chambers and witness 1162 00:38:23,232 --> 00:38:26,232 the photos, you're welcome to 1163 00:38:27,104 --> 00:38:27,804 do that If you choose to leave 1164 00:38:27,804 --> 00:38:30,804 two elevators are are working. 1165 00:38:32,309 --> 00:38:33,900 I've been told the two 1166 00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:36,900 elevators are in fact working 1167 00:38:36,846 --> 00:38:37,347 so you won't have to walk all 1168 00:38:37,347 --> 00:38:38,480 the way back down. 1169 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,183 So my colleagues would join me 1170 00:38:40,183 --> 00:38:40,950 in chambers for that. 1171 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:43,950 We can take pictures with 1172 00:39:42,379 --> 00:39:43,280 the four recipients that don't 1173 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,880 Oh I mean somebody just has 1174 00:40:32,262 --> 00:40:34,662 this opportunity to up 1175 00:41:14,772 --> 00:41:15,720 and 1176 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:17,720 you 1177 00:41:45,769 --> 00:41:47,769 know Yeah, yeah. 1178 00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:39,420 Check One, two, three, four 1179 00:44:36,908 --> 00:44:38,908 And 1180 00:46:04,663 --> 00:46:07,663 the events that started right 1181 00:48:04,984 --> 00:48:06,984 here in say 1182 00:49:36,142 --> 00:49:39,742 just Okay, we're back from a 1183 00:49:40,847 --> 00:49:41,381 brief pause But Kevin why don't 1184 00:49:41,381 --> 00:49:43,381 you take attendance? 1185 00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:50,857 >> The council members security 1186 00:49:50,857 --> 00:49:51,525 Council member Campbell here 1187 00:49:51,525 --> 00:49:53,925 Council member Whitburn here 1188 00:49:57,865 --> 00:49:58,565 Council member Foster Von 1189 00:49:58,565 --> 00:50:00,965 Wilpert Council PRESIDENT Pro 1190 00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:03,870 Tem Lee Council Member Campos 1191 00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:06,270 Council Member Moreno Present 1192 00:50:07,473 --> 00:50:08,175 Council Member Eli Rivera 1193 00:50:08,175 --> 00:50:10,575 Resident for PRESIDENT LaCava 1194 00:50:12,212 --> 00:50:12,912 present All right Thank you And 1195 00:50:12,912 --> 00:50:15,749 again thank you for indulging 1196 00:50:15,749 --> 00:50:16,383 us as we kind of navigate these 1197 00:50:16,383 --> 00:50:17,830 10:00 technical problems. 1198 00:50:17,830 --> 00:50:17,751 So we're going to proceed with 1199 00:50:17,751 --> 00:50:20,751 the approval of the consent 1200 00:50:21,388 --> 00:50:22,550 items and there are two 1201 00:50:22,550 --> 00:50:24,550 corrective statements for 1202 00:50:26,126 --> 00:50:26,827 the record our City Attorney 1203 00:50:26,827 --> 00:50:29,827 Thank you Council PRESIDENT On 1204 00:50:30,864 --> 00:50:31,565 item as 501 our office will be 1205 00:50:31,565 --> 00:50:33,965 submitting a corrected digest 1206 00:50:35,169 --> 00:50:35,869 and ordinance to clarify that 1207 00:50:35,869 --> 00:50:36,537 the ordinance if approved will 1208 00:50:36,537 --> 00:50:39,537 remain in effect without any 1209 00:50:40,507 --> 00:50:43,507 further action by council If 1210 00:50:44,178 --> 00:50:44,745 Vehicle code section 21214.7 is 1211 00:50:44,745 --> 00:50:45,145 extended by the state 1212 00:50:45,145 --> 00:50:47,145 legislature. 1213 00:50:48,682 --> 00:50:49,350 All right. 1214 00:50:49,350 --> 00:50:50,500 >> Thank you for that. 1215 00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:50,751 And I believe the office of 1216 00:50:50,751 --> 00:50:51,510 the mayor has a correction as 1217 00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:51,418 well. 1218 00:50:51,418 --> 00:50:53,418 Thank you. 1219 00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:54,722 Council PRESIDENT For item 100. 1220 00:50:54,722 --> 00:50:55,323 The staff report on resolution 1221 00:50:55,323 --> 00:50:57,323 indicate that appointee 1222 00:50:58,859 --> 00:50:59,426 Stephanie Benvenuto resides in 1223 00:50:59,426 --> 00:51:00,160 Council District one. 1224 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,963 However she actually resides in 1225 00:51:02,963 --> 00:51:03,764 Council District two. 1226 00:51:03,764 --> 00:51:04,331 >> a correct id resolution will 1227 00:51:04,331 --> 00:51:04,732 be submitted following 1228 00:51:04,732 --> 00:51:06,732 the meeting. 1229 00:51:07,668 --> 00:51:08,435 There we go with that. 1230 00:51:08,435 --> 00:51:12,350 Are there any requests to pull 1231 00:51:12,405 --> 00:51:12,807 an item or any of the items by 1232 00:51:12,807 --> 00:51:13,574 the council? 1233 00:51:13,574 --> 00:51:14,174 I don't see any request So with 1234 00:51:14,174 --> 00:51:16,574 that Deputy clerk please 1235 00:51:17,578 --> 00:51:18,145 proceed with public testimony 1236 00:51:18,145 --> 00:51:18,578 on the consent items. 1237 00:51:18,578 --> 00:51:20,578 >> Thank you. 1238 00:51:22,583 --> 00:51:23,217 Council PRESIDENT Please note 1239 00:51:23,217 --> 00:51:23,884 each speaker will have one 1240 00:51:23,884 --> 00:51:26,884 minute per item per person. 1241 00:51:27,454 --> 00:51:28,222 If you would like to speak on 1242 00:51:28,222 --> 00:51:28,822 three or more items you will 1243 00:51:28,822 --> 00:51:29,156 have a maximum of three 1244 00:51:29,156 --> 00:51:29,823 minutes. 1245 00:51:29,823 --> 00:51:32,223 The consent agenda includes 1246 00:51:36,596 --> 00:51:38,596 items 1050 through 52 100 1a1 1247 00:51:39,834 --> 00:51:40,468 as a5a1 as 502 and as 503 Also 1248 00:51:40,468 --> 00:51:41,202 let me note for the record 1249 00:51:41,202 --> 00:51:43,602 the potential appointments that 1250 00:51:44,705 --> 00:51:45,372 are on the agenda this morning 1251 00:51:45,372 --> 00:51:45,973 Item 100 at the potential 1252 00:51:45,973 --> 00:51:47,973 appointment of Stephanie 1253 00:51:49,709 --> 00:51:50,411 Benvenuto, John Ford, Tyler 1254 00:51:50,411 --> 00:51:53,411 Martin and Tiffany McDaniel to 1255 00:51:54,548 --> 00:51:55,249 the homelessness revenue 1256 00:51:55,249 --> 00:51:57,249 Account Citizens Oversight 1257 00:51:59,120 --> 00:51:59,787 Committee Item 101 is 1258 00:51:59,787 --> 00:52:00,421 the potential appointment of 1259 00:52:00,421 --> 00:52:03,824 Tom Harmon to the Board of 1260 00:52:03,824 --> 00:52:06,224 Building Appeals and Advisors. 1261 00:52:09,196 --> 00:52:10,640 We did receive comments on item 1262 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:10,731 5a1 on our e comment form which 1263 00:52:10,731 --> 00:52:13,131 has been distributed to 1264 00:52:14,350 --> 00:52:14,535 the Council that we will go to 1265 00:52:14,535 --> 00:52:16,535 in-person comment. 1266 00:52:18,306 --> 00:52:18,639 Max Schmitt please come 1267 00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:20,639 forward. 1268 00:52:23,211 --> 00:52:23,945 You have submitted speaker 1269 00:52:23,945 --> 00:52:24,812 slips on all of the consent 1270 00:52:24,812 --> 00:52:26,514 items so you will have a 1271 00:52:26,514 --> 00:52:28,914 maximum of three minutes. 1272 00:52:31,786 --> 00:52:32,420 Hi I just wanted to use my 1273 00:52:32,420 --> 00:52:34,820 First Amendment right here 1274 00:52:36,924 --> 00:52:40,495 today at City Hall and say that 1275 00:52:40,495 --> 00:52:43,495 with my First Amendment right 1276 00:52:44,966 --> 00:52:49,166 in my opinion I am opposed to 1277 00:52:49,836 --> 00:52:50,171 all of the consent agenda items 1278 00:52:50,171 --> 00:52:50,905 . 1279 00:52:50,905 --> 00:52:51,706 I'm opposed to every single one 1280 00:52:51,706 --> 00:52:54,706 with my First Amendment right 1281 00:52:55,677 --> 00:53:00,114 and in my opinion and I want to 1282 00:53:00,114 --> 00:53:01,820 say the reason why the reason 1283 00:53:01,820 --> 00:53:04,952 why I'm opposed to all of these 1284 00:53:04,952 --> 00:53:08,552 items is because I believe that 1285 00:53:09,457 --> 00:53:12,457 every thing should be stopped 1286 00:53:14,620 --> 00:53:17,620 and that the city government 1287 00:53:18,366 --> 00:53:19,670 should actually be shut down 1288 00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:22,670 until more awareness is drawn 1289 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:23,872 about the Catholic genocide and 1290 00:53:23,872 --> 00:53:27,800 if I'm going to get in trouble 1291 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:27,742 for not staying on topic one of 1292 00:53:27,742 --> 00:53:28,410 the item 100 is appointments to 1293 00:53:28,410 --> 00:53:30,810 the Homeless Revenue account 1294 00:53:31,980 --> 00:53:32,781 Citizens Oversight Committee. 1295 00:53:32,781 --> 00:53:35,781 I think the Homeless Revenue 1296 00:53:36,818 --> 00:53:37,519 Oversight Committee should be 1297 00:53:37,519 --> 00:53:40,519 shut down until awareness is 1298 00:53:42,123 --> 00:53:42,557 drawn on homeless Catholic 1299 00:53:42,557 --> 00:53:43,491 people are. 1300 00:53:43,491 --> 00:53:46,761 You can call it death by 1301 00:53:46,761 --> 00:53:47,394 gibberish where Freemasons 1302 00:53:47,394 --> 00:53:49,394 surround homeless Catholic 1303 00:53:51,566 --> 00:53:52,233 people and speak gibberish 1304 00:53:52,233 --> 00:53:55,833 nonstop to the point they go 1305 00:53:56,204 --> 00:53:56,905 mentally ill commit suicide or 1306 00:53:56,905 --> 00:54:00,505 turn to drugs and it's an 1307 00:54:00,675 --> 00:54:01,476 underground hidden genocide and 1308 00:54:01,476 --> 00:54:02,210 I want to say the reason why 1309 00:54:02,210 --> 00:54:05,810 I'm opposed these items and why 1310 00:54:05,913 --> 00:54:10,113 it's such a big deal is because 1311 00:54:10,652 --> 00:54:11,353 homeless people are dying and 1312 00:54:11,353 --> 00:54:13,353 they're being intentionally 1313 00:54:15,323 --> 00:54:17,323 driven to suicide, 1314 00:54:19,728 --> 00:54:20,428 intentionally driven to drugs 1315 00:54:20,428 --> 00:54:22,828 by armed telepathic people 1316 00:54:24,866 --> 00:54:25,467 surrounding them nonstop 1317 00:54:25,467 --> 00:54:27,467 surrounding them at 1318 00:54:29,137 --> 00:54:29,804 the homeless shelter 1319 00:54:29,804 --> 00:54:30,505 surrounding them and public 1320 00:54:30,505 --> 00:54:32,905 transit surrounding them every 1321 00:54:34,409 --> 00:54:35,110 single where every single place 1322 00:54:35,110 --> 00:54:38,110 they go and speaking gibberish 1323 00:54:39,470 --> 00:54:39,781 so that their mind is so that 1324 00:54:39,781 --> 00:54:40,215 they their mind is constantly 1325 00:54:40,215 --> 00:54:42,215 going insane. 1326 00:54:44,186 --> 00:54:44,986 It's imagine being forced to 1327 00:54:44,986 --> 00:54:47,986 wear headphones that all you 1328 00:54:48,857 --> 00:54:49,524 hear is gibberish all day long 1329 00:54:49,524 --> 00:54:51,924 through these headphones and 1330 00:54:53,228 --> 00:54:53,929 then half the time if you can 1331 00:54:53,929 --> 00:54:54,630 make out any of the gibberish 1332 00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:57,630 it's saying your thoughts out 1333 00:54:58,132 --> 00:54:58,800 loud. 1334 00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:59,568 Imagine how that could drive 1335 00:54:59,568 --> 00:55:02,568 someone to suicide or drug 1336 00:55:02,704 --> 00:55:03,372 addiction. 1337 00:55:03,372 --> 00:55:05,772 There is an underground 1338 00:55:07,542 --> 00:55:08,176 genocide on in San Diego that's 1339 00:55:08,176 --> 00:55:11,176 being covered up and city 1340 00:55:12,180 --> 00:55:12,847 council are phonies. 1341 00:55:12,847 --> 00:55:15,847 They don't care about human 1342 00:55:17,486 --> 00:55:18,120 rights because they know about 1343 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,787 this underground genocide. 1344 00:55:18,787 --> 00:55:19,621 And the reason I know why is 1345 00:55:19,621 --> 00:55:23,124 because when I come to city 1346 00:55:23,124 --> 00:55:23,859 hall, city council members are 1347 00:55:23,859 --> 00:55:24,526 actually intentionally speaking 1348 00:55:24,526 --> 00:55:28,126 gibberish to try to drive me 1349 00:55:28,196 --> 00:55:28,830 crazy And they know they're 1350 00:55:28,830 --> 00:55:31,830 guilty and I'm not stupid. 1351 00:55:32,367 --> 00:55:33,234 Stop targeting Catholics. 1352 00:55:33,234 --> 00:55:33,602 >> Shame on all of you. 1353 00:55:33,602 --> 00:55:34,269 Thank you. 1354 00:55:34,269 --> 00:55:34,636 That does conclude your time 1355 00:55:34,636 --> 00:55:36,636 Allegedly. 1356 00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,840 Audra, please come forward and 1357 00:55:40,876 --> 00:55:44,476 state the items you'd like to 1358 00:55:45,481 --> 00:55:46,248 speak to. 1359 00:55:46,248 --> 00:55:46,615 We'll cover as much as 1360 00:55:46,615 --> 00:55:46,915 possible. 1361 00:55:46,915 --> 00:55:48,915 Okay. 1362 00:55:51,654 --> 00:55:53,856 The three minutes listed items 1363 00:55:53,856 --> 00:55:54,490 5050 to 100 as 501 as 502 and 1364 00:55:54,490 --> 00:55:54,790 that's 503 on your speaker 1365 00:55:54,790 --> 00:55:55,224 slip. 1366 00:55:55,224 --> 00:55:55,658 That's right. 1367 00:55:55,658 --> 00:55:57,558 Three minutes. 1368 00:55:57,558 --> 00:55:57,960 Let's do this. 1369 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:58,661 All right. 1370 00:55:58,661 --> 00:56:01,661 Fun fact flies also pollinate. 1371 00:56:02,765 --> 00:56:03,632 So that's interesting. 1372 00:56:03,632 --> 00:56:04,198 You MAY not want to kill them. 1373 00:56:04,198 --> 00:56:04,867 You know what I mean? 1374 00:56:04,867 --> 00:56:07,803 It's like they also you know 1375 00:56:07,803 --> 00:56:08,571 there's a reason why they go 1376 00:56:08,571 --> 00:56:09,471 after any who So yes, I'll 1377 00:56:09,471 --> 00:56:13,710 continue to say this with your 1378 00:56:13,142 --> 00:56:13,842 software agreements I feel like 1379 00:56:13,842 --> 00:56:17,460 it is very negligent when we 1380 00:56:17,460 --> 00:56:17,746 are engaging with these 1381 00:56:17,746 --> 00:56:18,380 monopolies that have all of 1382 00:56:18,380 --> 00:56:20,380 the government information 1383 00:56:22,510 --> 00:56:22,651 Again because it seems 1384 00:56:22,651 --> 00:56:23,419 convenient but it's very 1385 00:56:23,419 --> 00:56:26,419 dangerous with the people who 1386 00:56:27,256 --> 00:56:29,656 are have nefarious intentions 1387 00:56:31,660 --> 00:56:32,427 like BlackRock and Vanguard who 1388 00:56:32,427 --> 00:56:32,961 are you know, just being given 1389 00:56:32,961 --> 00:56:35,361 our data it's crazy. 1390 00:56:36,132 --> 00:56:36,799 >> Nobody cares. 1391 00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:37,399 And then there's appointment 1392 00:56:37,399 --> 00:56:39,799 for the homeless revenue 1393 00:56:41,203 --> 00:56:41,971 account. 1394 00:56:41,971 --> 00:56:42,638 I feel like you should rename 1395 00:56:42,638 --> 00:56:43,239 that because it sounds like 1396 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,639 you're making money off 1397 00:56:46,342 --> 00:56:47,276 the homeless. 1398 00:56:47,276 --> 00:56:48,177 I mean you do but I feel like 1399 00:56:48,177 --> 00:56:51,380 it needs to be more along 1400 00:56:51,380 --> 00:56:51,980 the lines of the you know, 1401 00:56:51,980 --> 00:56:54,380 homelessness o t revenue 1402 00:56:56,218 --> 00:56:56,852 account because it really does 1403 00:56:56,852 --> 00:56:57,153 it doesn't it doesn't look 1404 00:56:57,153 --> 00:56:57,887 good. 1405 00:56:57,887 --> 00:57:00,887 But I guess let's be 1406 00:57:01,323 --> 00:57:02,580 transparent with the people so 1407 00:57:02,580 --> 00:57:02,757 that they know you know what I 1408 00:57:02,757 --> 00:57:05,127 mean that they're you know a 1409 00:57:05,127 --> 00:57:05,994 hot commodity because they make 1410 00:57:05,994 --> 00:57:10,166 you a lot of money And with 1411 00:57:10,166 --> 00:57:10,867 this electric bike stuff I just 1412 00:57:10,867 --> 00:57:11,501 feel like eventually these are 1413 00:57:11,501 --> 00:57:11,801 going to be regulated like 1414 00:57:11,801 --> 00:57:13,801 cars. 1415 00:57:15,238 --> 00:57:15,938 So you're going to need a 1416 00:57:15,938 --> 00:57:16,372 license and insurance and all 1417 00:57:16,372 --> 00:57:18,372 of that stuff. 1418 00:57:19,375 --> 00:57:20,143 So I mean people Sean, that 1419 00:57:20,143 --> 00:57:20,977 bike you know what I mean? 1420 00:57:20,977 --> 00:57:21,744 You're going to have to get a 1421 00:57:21,744 --> 00:57:24,413 specific license for it and 1422 00:57:24,413 --> 00:57:25,214 children will too. 1423 00:57:25,214 --> 00:57:28,214 So it's interesting And then 1424 00:57:29,152 --> 00:57:29,819 with this emergency ambulance 1425 00:57:29,819 --> 00:57:30,520 transportation billing so I 1426 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,520 understand this is for billing 1427 00:57:34,423 --> 00:57:35,124 but ambulances like full 1428 00:57:35,124 --> 00:57:37,524 ambulance are ambulances that 1429 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:39,696 are picking people up And I 1430 00:57:39,696 --> 00:57:42,696 would like to specify ambulance 1431 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:44,600 number 36 that is engaged in 1432 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,000 drugging people Falck also 1433 00:57:49,105 --> 00:57:49,906 manufacturers some of these 1434 00:57:49,906 --> 00:57:54,106 drugs that they use to kind of 1435 00:57:54,143 --> 00:57:54,810 sedate people and it is 1436 00:57:54,810 --> 00:57:55,511 something that is known that 1437 00:57:55,511 --> 00:57:58,511 happens in ambulances not just 1438 00:57:58,847 --> 00:57:59,515 in fog but across the nation 1439 00:57:59,515 --> 00:58:00,316 and probably the world where 1440 00:58:00,316 --> 00:58:03,916 people who get sedated also get 1441 00:58:04,554 --> 00:58:05,421 sexually assaulted. 1442 00:58:05,421 --> 00:58:06,289 And Andrea Epping had a rape 1443 00:58:06,289 --> 00:58:09,580 kit done after she was in a 1444 00:58:09,580 --> 00:58:09,792 fall ambulance after she was 1445 00:58:09,792 --> 00:58:12,792 assaulted by Anthony Warner San 1446 00:58:14,464 --> 00:58:15,198 Diego pd Officer and put into 1447 00:58:15,198 --> 00:58:15,899 this ambulance and one of those 1448 00:58:15,899 --> 00:58:18,935 like burritos or you know they 1449 00:58:18,935 --> 00:58:19,635 just like wrap you up it's a 1450 00:58:19,635 --> 00:58:20,435 wrap or whatever And she wound 1451 00:58:20,435 --> 00:58:24,350 up in the hospital with no 1452 00:58:24,307 --> 00:58:24,808 clothes and they're like Where 1453 00:58:24,808 --> 00:58:25,574 are your clothes? 1454 00:58:25,574 --> 00:58:28,711 I mean she had them at 1455 00:58:28,711 --> 00:58:29,478 the skate park. 1456 00:58:29,478 --> 00:58:30,346 Raul is in your district but 1457 00:58:30,346 --> 00:58:33,946 evidently when she ended up in 1458 00:58:34,684 --> 00:58:35,451 the hospital there were no 1459 00:58:35,451 --> 00:58:36,119 clothes and she had a rape kit 1460 00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:38,855 done And when that was done 1461 00:58:38,855 --> 00:58:39,589 they said this is one of 1462 00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:40,289 the worst cases I've seen And I 1463 00:58:40,289 --> 00:58:44,227 saw a bunch of bruises on her 1464 00:58:44,227 --> 00:58:44,927 legs that look like, you know, 1465 00:58:44,927 --> 00:58:47,927 fingerprints on the inside of 1466 00:58:49,165 --> 00:58:49,900 her thighs And so it's very 1467 00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:50,633 concerning to know that this is 1468 00:58:50,633 --> 00:58:54,233 happening in the city of San 1469 00:58:54,604 --> 00:58:55,205 Diego And right now they have 1470 00:58:55,205 --> 00:58:56,380 deemed her incompetent. 1471 00:58:56,380 --> 00:58:57,407 So you know, all of this can 1472 00:58:57,407 --> 00:59:00,407 get buried under the rock. 1473 00:59:01,611 --> 00:59:03,611 >> Good job. 1474 00:59:12,689 --> 00:59:13,355 But the risky police state 1475 00:59:13,355 --> 00:59:16,660 the item you would like to 1476 00:59:16,660 --> 00:59:16,993 speak to item ten the minutes. 1477 00:59:16,993 --> 00:59:17,359 Okay. 1478 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:18,228 Thank you. 1479 00:59:18,228 --> 00:59:21,330 I just like to say that I'd 1480 00:59:21,330 --> 00:59:22,320 like to see more detail in 1481 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:22,699 the minutes rather than less. 1482 00:59:22,699 --> 00:59:25,699 The minutes are supposed to 1483 00:59:26,869 --> 00:59:27,271 reflect what happened at 1484 00:59:27,271 --> 00:59:27,937 the meeting. 1485 00:59:27,937 --> 00:59:28,572 They're searchable so people 1486 00:59:28,572 --> 00:59:31,572 can look for what they're 1487 00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:32,709 interested in and I've heard 1488 00:59:32,709 --> 00:59:33,376 that push to actually reduce 1489 00:59:33,376 --> 00:59:36,376 the amount of detail in 1490 00:59:37,180 --> 00:59:37,880 the minutes when citizens speak 1491 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:38,615 rather than increase it And I 1492 00:59:38,615 --> 00:59:42,215 think it should be increased so 1493 00:59:42,218 --> 00:59:42,919 that what we say here is at 1494 00:59:42,919 --> 00:59:45,919 least captured to some degree. 1495 00:59:46,957 --> 00:59:47,724 I know it has to be summarized 1496 00:59:47,724 --> 00:59:48,592 might be something for you to 1497 00:59:48,592 --> 00:59:52,762 do at some point But I do think 1498 00:59:52,762 --> 00:59:53,496 that you know, I spent six 1499 00:59:53,496 --> 00:59:56,496 hours here yesterday waiting to 1500 00:59:57,501 --> 00:59:58,168 give a two minute speech and i 1501 00:59:58,168 --> 00:59:58,835 think the citizens deserve a 1502 00:59:58,835 --> 01:00:01,835 little more than just their 1503 01:00:02,606 --> 01:00:03,273 name And a couple of words Also 1504 01:00:03,273 --> 01:00:06,273 I don't understand why we're 1505 01:00:06,777 --> 01:00:07,377 now reducing all citizen 1506 01:00:07,377 --> 01:00:08,770 comments to one minute. 1507 01:00:08,770 --> 01:00:08,378 There's not that many speakers 1508 01:00:08,378 --> 01:00:09,146 here. 1509 01:00:09,146 --> 01:00:12,146 There's no justification to not 1510 01:00:12,649 --> 01:00:13,383 have two minutes today And I've 1511 01:00:13,383 --> 01:00:14,151 seen it again and again Now I 1512 01:00:14,151 --> 01:00:17,751 can understand if you have a 1513 01:00:17,854 --> 01:00:18,555 council full of you know, a 1514 01:00:18,555 --> 01:00:19,256 chamber full of people as we 1515 01:00:19,256 --> 01:00:22,256 did yesterday with the telecom 1516 01:00:23,193 --> 01:00:23,793 but in general we should 1517 01:00:23,793 --> 01:00:24,228 reserve two minutes for 1518 01:00:24,228 --> 01:00:24,928 the Brown Act. 1519 01:00:24,928 --> 01:00:27,928 Thank you concludes your time 1520 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:34,705 And Anthony Ralphs please state 1521 01:00:34,705 --> 01:00:38,305 the items you'd like to speak 1522 01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:39,910 to Like to speak to item ten 1523 01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:43,510 I'd like to speak to item 100 1524 01:00:44,148 --> 01:00:44,581 and I'd like to speak to item 1525 01:00:44,581 --> 01:00:45,315 501 please. 1526 01:00:45,315 --> 01:00:48,315 So you'll have three minutes 1527 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:50,988 with regard to item ten. 1528 01:00:50,988 --> 01:00:53,857 Well first of all good 1529 01:00:53,857 --> 01:00:54,725 afternoon City Council With 1530 01:00:54,725 --> 01:00:55,425 regard to item ten I would like 1531 01:00:55,425 --> 01:00:59,250 to say that I strongly agree 1532 01:01:00,396 --> 01:01:01,165 with what Bob just shared. 1533 01:01:01,165 --> 01:01:01,465 I also share that position as 1534 01:01:01,465 --> 01:01:02,265 well. 1535 01:01:02,265 --> 01:01:06,360 I think that if we were making 1536 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:06,804 the time to park down here for 1537 01:01:06,804 --> 01:01:07,504 making a time to sit here for 1538 01:01:07,504 --> 01:01:08,205 hours if we're making the time 1539 01:01:08,205 --> 01:01:11,475 to routinely show up, I think 1540 01:01:11,475 --> 01:01:12,760 that we all deserve to have 1541 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:12,843 what we say recorded as 1542 01:01:12,843 --> 01:01:15,843 accurately as possible and as 1543 01:01:17,381 --> 01:01:19,381 thoroughly as possible. 1544 01:01:21,886 --> 01:01:22,586 Moving on to item 100 I've good 1545 01:01:22,586 --> 01:01:23,287 luck with these appointments. 1546 01:01:23,287 --> 01:01:23,954 I know that empty seats can't 1547 01:01:23,954 --> 01:01:26,354 make the important decisions 1548 01:01:27,491 --> 01:01:28,259 that are needed with regard to 1549 01:01:28,259 --> 01:01:28,826 all of these issues So I hope 1550 01:01:28,826 --> 01:01:29,192 that these people are 1551 01:01:29,192 --> 01:01:31,192 appointed. 1552 01:01:33,163 --> 01:01:33,831 I'm not sure who they are but I 1553 01:01:33,831 --> 01:01:36,831 hope that they are qualified 1554 01:01:38,469 --> 01:01:39,700 and good luck to them and with 1555 01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:41,470 regard to item s501 1556 01:01:44,809 --> 01:01:47,809 the Municipal Code the new 1557 01:01:49,146 --> 01:01:49,780 sections eight for 19 420 and 1558 01:01:49,780 --> 01:01:50,247 8421 relating to electric 1559 01:01:50,247 --> 01:01:50,880 bicycle safety. 1560 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,880 I'm assuming that that's I 1561 01:01:55,653 --> 01:01:56,354 actually have not seen those 1562 01:01:56,354 --> 01:01:57,880 codes specifically so I can't 1563 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,688 speak to all the nuances within 1564 01:02:01,292 --> 01:02:01,995 them but I just wanted to share 1565 01:02:01,995 --> 01:02:02,660 my own personal testimony with 1566 01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:05,600 regard to electrical bicycle 1567 01:02:07,365 --> 01:02:08,990 safety and share that my 1568 01:02:08,990 --> 01:02:08,799 brother's almost been hit by an 1569 01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:11,199 electric bike actually grazed 1570 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:13,671 his bass almost and thankfully 1571 01:02:13,671 --> 01:02:17,271 it didn't hurt him and it 1572 01:02:18,876 --> 01:02:19,610 didn't hurt his bass But I'm 1573 01:02:19,610 --> 01:02:20,278 sure that you hear stories like 1574 01:02:20,278 --> 01:02:21,770 this all the time so I won't 1575 01:02:21,770 --> 01:02:24,677 bore you with more details Just 1576 01:02:24,882 --> 01:02:25,550 hoping that we can do something 1577 01:02:25,550 --> 01:02:26,250 with regard to public safety 1578 01:02:26,250 --> 01:02:28,650 with these electric bicycles. 1579 01:02:29,954 --> 01:02:30,455 Thank you. 1580 01:02:30,455 --> 01:02:31,222 Thank you. 1581 01:02:31,222 --> 01:02:33,622 That concludes in-person public 1582 01:02:36,270 --> 01:02:36,761 comment. 1583 01:02:36,761 --> 01:02:37,428 I've started the five minute 1584 01:02:37,428 --> 01:02:38,162 timer in the committee room. 1585 01:02:38,162 --> 01:02:42,333 We will now turn to the virtual 1586 01:02:42,333 --> 01:02:42,967 queue in which there are seven 1587 01:02:42,967 --> 01:02:43,267 participants requesting to 1588 01:02:43,267 --> 01:02:45,267 speak. 1589 01:02:52,443 --> 01:02:53,100 We'll begin with John Elway. 1590 01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:53,411 John, please begin. 1591 01:02:53,411 --> 01:02:53,845 Thank you. 1592 01:02:53,845 --> 01:02:55,845 Good morning. 1593 01:02:57,481 --> 01:02:58,150 City COUNCILMAN John Brady with 1594 01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:58,549 Experience Advisors. 1595 01:02:58,549 --> 01:03:01,549 I'd like to speak on 1596 01:03:01,953 --> 01:03:02,286 the consent agenda and item 100 1597 01:03:02,286 --> 01:03:02,654 please. 1598 01:03:02,654 --> 01:03:04,654 Thank you. 1599 01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:09,327 So I want I'm sorry item 100. 1600 01:03:09,327 --> 01:03:09,627 Yes. 1601 01:03:09,627 --> 01:03:09,928 Yes. 1602 01:03:09,928 --> 01:03:11,928 Okay. 1603 01:03:13,298 --> 01:03:13,997 Well, I wanted to thank you and 1604 01:03:13,997 --> 01:03:14,699 also the consent agenda item 1605 01:03:14,699 --> 01:03:17,699 100 is on the consent agenda. 1606 01:03:20,305 --> 01:03:21,720 >> Oh, sorry about that. 1607 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:21,606 I don't want to speak on 1608 01:03:21,606 --> 01:03:22,307 the item related to 1609 01:03:22,307 --> 01:03:22,639 the Homeless revenue Committee 1610 01:03:22,639 --> 01:03:24,639 as well. 1611 01:03:26,244 --> 01:03:26,811 Okay. 1612 01:03:26,811 --> 01:03:27,411 >> Thank you. 1613 01:03:27,411 --> 01:03:29,811 It's two minutes please. 1614 01:03:32,951 --> 01:03:33,618 So I am concerned about this 1615 01:03:33,618 --> 01:03:34,352 homeless revenue committee. 1616 01:03:34,352 --> 01:03:35,190 I we've spoken with our members 1617 01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:38,220 the way the language of this 1618 01:03:38,220 --> 01:03:38,790 committee is set up. 1619 01:03:38,790 --> 01:03:39,424 It appears that no one from 1620 01:03:39,424 --> 01:03:41,824 the homeless services base 1621 01:03:44,862 --> 01:03:45,563 could actually serve on their 1622 01:03:45,563 --> 01:03:46,297 committee if they are if they 1623 01:03:46,297 --> 01:03:49,297 are recipients of any city 1624 01:03:50,836 --> 01:03:51,402 funding which is almost 1625 01:03:51,402 --> 01:03:52,137 everyone in this space 1626 01:03:52,137 --> 01:03:55,137 including our own and what 1627 01:03:56,942 --> 01:03:57,642 appears to be developing based 1628 01:03:57,642 --> 01:03:58,310 on the first four appointments 1629 01:03:58,310 --> 01:04:01,910 is that there is no homeless 1630 01:04:02,380 --> 01:04:03,114 services or knowledge or 1631 01:04:03,114 --> 01:04:06,114 experience happening And on top 1632 01:04:09,119 --> 01:04:09,854 of it we are and I know no 1633 01:04:09,854 --> 01:04:10,422 problem with the individuals or 1634 01:04:10,422 --> 01:04:11,890 the resumes but what's 1635 01:04:11,890 --> 01:04:11,722 happening is we are actually 1636 01:04:11,722 --> 01:04:14,122 creating an exception for 1637 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:15,827 someone who does not live in 1638 01:04:15,827 --> 01:04:16,595 the city who is a lobbyist. 1639 01:04:16,595 --> 01:04:19,595 This committee, if it has 1640 01:04:21,433 --> 01:04:22,167 impact over how this funding is 1641 01:04:22,167 --> 01:04:22,868 spent looks like to me it will 1642 01:04:22,868 --> 01:04:26,468 largely be made up by business 1643 01:04:26,538 --> 01:04:27,238 people and no one with any 1644 01:04:27,238 --> 01:04:29,638 lived experience or knowledge 1645 01:04:33,178 --> 01:04:33,745 of the industry itself And that 1646 01:04:33,745 --> 01:04:34,446 is problematic for us. 1647 01:04:34,446 --> 01:04:38,460 As to the public comment area, 1648 01:04:39,151 --> 01:04:43,951 I did want to say that when you 1649 01:04:44,990 --> 01:04:45,291 call in right now you get an 1650 01:04:45,291 --> 01:04:45,991 error. 1651 01:04:45,991 --> 01:04:46,625 If you dial in and enter 1652 01:04:46,625 --> 01:04:50,225 the code it says either it 1653 01:04:50,261 --> 01:04:50,962 doesn't recognize it or ask for 1654 01:04:50,962 --> 01:04:51,229 the code again and people hang 1655 01:04:51,229 --> 01:04:51,963 up. 1656 01:04:51,963 --> 01:04:56,163 Also when we pull an item like 1657 01:04:56,567 --> 01:04:57,436 yesterday on path we had two 1658 01:04:57,436 --> 01:04:58,170 people set up to speak but we 1659 01:04:58,170 --> 01:04:58,937 could not give them time to get 1660 01:04:58,937 --> 01:05:01,720 on the phone because there was 1661 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:01,473 not the presentation that was 1662 01:05:01,473 --> 01:05:03,473 planned for. 1663 01:05:06,911 --> 01:05:07,312 Thank you. 1664 01:05:07,312 --> 01:05:09,312 Thank you. 1665 01:05:12,584 --> 01:05:12,984 Our next speaker is Aurora 1666 01:05:12,984 --> 01:05:13,752 Livingston. 1667 01:05:13,752 --> 01:05:14,620 Please state the items that you 1668 01:05:14,620 --> 01:05:18,220 would like to speak to and 1669 01:05:18,490 --> 01:05:19,910 begin. 1670 01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:19,791 >> Good morning Council 1671 01:05:19,791 --> 01:05:22,191 PRESIDENT And Council members. 1672 01:05:24,930 --> 01:05:25,597 My name is Aurora and I'm 1673 01:05:25,597 --> 01:05:26,197 speaking today on behalf of 1674 01:05:26,197 --> 01:05:28,197 California State Senator 1675 01:05:30,936 --> 01:05:31,637 Catherine Blake Speer on item 1676 01:05:31,637 --> 01:05:32,304 s5a1 The Senator supports this 1677 01:05:32,304 --> 01:05:34,704 ordinance to improve e-bike 1678 01:05:37,376 --> 01:05:38,430 safety and thanks Councilmember 1679 01:05:38,430 --> 01:05:38,610 Campo for his leadership on 1680 01:05:38,610 --> 01:05:40,610 this important issue. 1681 01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:42,981 Senator Blake's Mayor I applaud 1682 01:05:42,981 --> 01:05:43,582 the city of San Diego for 1683 01:05:43,582 --> 01:05:44,249 taking such a thoughtful 1684 01:05:44,249 --> 01:05:46,649 education First approach to 1685 01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:49,154 improving e-bike safety e-bikes 1686 01:05:49,154 --> 01:05:49,789 really are an important part of 1687 01:05:49,789 --> 01:05:51,789 our transportation system. 1688 01:05:53,826 --> 01:05:54,426 They provide a sustainable 1689 01:05:54,426 --> 01:05:54,794 mobility option for many 1690 01:05:54,794 --> 01:05:55,494 residents. 1691 01:05:55,494 --> 01:05:56,128 Unfortunately there have been 1692 01:05:56,128 --> 01:05:58,128 serious injuries involving 1693 01:06:00,650 --> 01:06:00,699 young riders who MAY not have 1694 01:06:00,699 --> 01:06:01,433 the training or understand 1695 01:06:01,433 --> 01:06:05,633 the rules of the road to safely 1696 01:06:06,271 --> 01:06:06,838 operate these e-bikes. 1697 01:06:06,838 --> 01:06:07,372 This ordinance strikes 1698 01:06:07,372 --> 01:06:08,730 the right balance by 1699 01:06:08,730 --> 01:06:10,473 establishing a reasonable age 1700 01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:12,777 restriction and prioritizing 1701 01:06:12,777 --> 01:06:13,445 public education And these are 1702 01:06:13,445 --> 01:06:14,112 commonsense guardrails that 1703 01:06:14,112 --> 01:06:17,112 focus on prevention and will 1704 01:06:19,318 --> 01:06:19,918 help keep all road users safe. 1705 01:06:19,918 --> 01:06:20,452 Senator Alex Mayor looks 1706 01:06:20,452 --> 01:06:21,186 forward to advancing 1707 01:06:21,186 --> 01:06:23,186 complementary state legislation 1708 01:06:24,790 --> 01:06:25,490 to strengthen e-bike safety 1709 01:06:25,490 --> 01:06:25,891 standards and improve consumer 1710 01:06:25,891 --> 01:06:26,325 protections. 1711 01:06:26,325 --> 01:06:28,325 >> Thank you. 1712 01:06:30,996 --> 01:06:31,664 Thank you. 1713 01:06:31,664 --> 01:06:31,997 Our next speaker is Leif 1714 01:06:31,997 --> 01:06:32,731 Ganzer. 1715 01:06:32,731 --> 01:06:36,331 Please state the item you would 1716 01:06:37,837 --> 01:06:38,504 like to speak to. 1717 01:06:38,504 --> 01:06:39,538 >> I am a novice. 1718 01:06:39,538 --> 01:06:44,338 My name is left and I want to 1719 01:06:45,845 --> 01:06:46,812 speak on 5a1. 1720 01:06:46,812 --> 01:06:47,546 I must have one bike right off 1721 01:06:47,546 --> 01:06:48,480 I take it to the grocery store 1722 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:49,181 On the right is all the time I 1723 01:06:49,181 --> 01:06:49,715 have a class one e-bike which 1724 01:06:49,715 --> 01:06:50,382 is limited to 20mph. 1725 01:06:50,382 --> 01:06:54,582 I want to point out that you 1726 01:06:55,187 --> 01:06:55,988 picked up the worst statement 1727 01:06:55,988 --> 01:06:56,321 to support when it comes to 1728 01:06:56,321 --> 01:06:57,560 e-bikes. 1729 01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:57,723 There is no bicycle at all that 1730 01:06:57,723 --> 01:07:00,123 it supports This particular 1731 01:07:01,527 --> 01:07:02,227 bill especially because it 1732 01:07:02,227 --> 01:07:02,961 would limit children under 12 1733 01:07:02,961 --> 01:07:03,295 to ride Class one and Class two 1734 01:07:03,295 --> 01:07:03,998 e-bikes. 1735 01:07:03,998 --> 01:07:07,266 These are not the e-bikes that 1736 01:07:07,266 --> 01:07:07,833 people are always talking about 1737 01:07:07,833 --> 01:07:08,434 these monthly models. 1738 01:07:08,434 --> 01:07:09,168 These are typically not 1739 01:07:09,168 --> 01:07:09,535 the e-bikes that kids are doing 1740 01:07:09,535 --> 01:07:11,535 these on. 1741 01:07:13,205 --> 01:07:13,872 I want you to understand this 1742 01:07:13,872 --> 01:07:14,439 has nothing to do with kids 1743 01:07:14,439 --> 01:07:15,174 riding on the highway. 1744 01:07:15,174 --> 01:07:17,810 There's nothing to do with kids 1745 01:07:17,810 --> 01:07:18,544 doing wheelies. 1746 01:07:18,544 --> 01:07:19,211 Please don't use the excuse 1747 01:07:19,211 --> 01:07:19,878 that you're doing something 1748 01:07:19,878 --> 01:07:22,878 because what you're doing is 1749 01:07:24,483 --> 01:07:25,218 you're doing the easy thing and 1750 01:07:25,218 --> 01:07:25,818 you are creating bad things for 1751 01:07:25,818 --> 01:07:28,218 people that cannot vote. 1752 01:07:30,723 --> 01:07:31,257 So if you care about e-bike 1753 01:07:31,257 --> 01:07:31,924 safety you would be 1754 01:07:31,924 --> 01:07:32,557 consistently and fully about 1755 01:07:32,557 --> 01:07:34,557 implementing safe bicycle 1756 01:07:36,229 --> 01:07:37,130 infrastructure. 1757 01:07:37,130 --> 01:07:37,863 Might ask if you can do all of 1758 01:07:37,863 --> 01:07:41,463 the education first off and yes 1759 01:07:42,935 --> 01:07:43,569 you can all the education all I 1760 01:07:43,569 --> 01:07:44,270 don't even I'm opposed to 1761 01:07:44,270 --> 01:07:46,670 better enforcement but please 1762 01:07:50,442 --> 01:07:51,143 take out the restriction on 1763 01:07:51,143 --> 01:07:51,677 class one and custom e-bikes. 1764 01:07:51,677 --> 01:07:52,450 That's all I've got. 1765 01:07:52,450 --> 01:07:52,678 Thank you. 1766 01:07:52,678 --> 01:07:54,213 That concludes your time. 1767 01:07:54,213 --> 01:07:54,947 Please note that the five 1768 01:07:54,947 --> 01:07:55,515 minute timer has concluded with 1769 01:07:55,515 --> 01:07:55,881 five speakers left in 1770 01:07:55,881 --> 01:07:57,881 the queue. 1771 01:08:00,853 --> 01:08:01,154 No other speakers will be taken 1772 01:08:01,154 --> 01:08:01,821 . 1773 01:08:01,821 --> 01:08:03,723 Next up is Ross Tritt. 1774 01:08:03,723 --> 01:08:06,723 Please state the time you'd 1775 01:08:10,697 --> 01:08:11,970 like to speak to me in. 1776 01:08:11,970 --> 01:08:11,763 Thank you. 1777 01:08:11,763 --> 01:08:12,332 Speaking on this final one. 1778 01:08:12,332 --> 01:08:12,899 Good morning to all 1779 01:08:12,899 --> 01:08:15,299 the PRESIDENT With all 1780 01:08:16,802 --> 01:08:17,237 the members of the San Diego 1781 01:08:17,237 --> 01:08:18,710 Zoo Counsel. 1782 01:08:18,710 --> 01:08:18,638 My name is Ross Trade and I'm 1783 01:08:18,638 --> 01:08:19,272 speaking on behalf of 1784 01:08:19,272 --> 01:08:21,272 Assemblymember Brenner in 1785 01:08:22,942 --> 01:08:23,642 support of item as 5a1 which 1786 01:08:23,642 --> 01:08:27,242 would opposite of the need to 1787 01:08:27,980 --> 01:08:28,581 go into the 20 to 34 pilot 1788 01:08:28,581 --> 01:08:29,248 program that you can do 1789 01:08:29,248 --> 01:08:29,949 COUNCILMAN Camp over target 1790 01:08:29,949 --> 01:08:32,349 championing this ordinance in 1791 01:08:32,952 --> 01:08:33,620 San Diego. 1792 01:08:33,620 --> 01:08:34,320 Assembly member DR. Brenner 1793 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,720 authored 80.34 in response to 1794 01:08:39,125 --> 01:08:39,826 the growing number of pigeons 1795 01:08:39,826 --> 01:08:40,260 involving young riders across 1796 01:08:40,260 --> 01:08:40,960 the district. 1797 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,160 As a mom of two children, she 1798 01:08:45,532 --> 01:08:46,365 knows firsthand how important 1799 01:08:46,365 --> 01:08:46,732 it is to keep our kids safe on 1800 01:08:46,732 --> 01:08:47,367 the road. 1801 01:08:47,367 --> 01:08:48,680 And this is really just a 1802 01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:51,680 common sense change that gives 1803 01:08:51,638 --> 01:08:52,339 cities the tools to protect 1804 01:08:52,339 --> 01:08:52,939 families and prevent a tragic 1805 01:08:52,939 --> 01:08:53,606 accident from happening. 1806 01:08:53,606 --> 01:08:56,606 I respectfully ask for your 1807 01:08:56,876 --> 01:08:59,276 vote and thank you. 1808 01:09:01,848 --> 01:09:02,549 Our next speaker is Blair being 1809 01:09:02,549 --> 01:09:06,149 pleased that the item or items 1810 01:09:10,256 --> 01:09:10,656 he wished to speak to? 1811 01:09:10,656 --> 01:09:11,524 >> Hi. 1812 01:09:11,524 --> 01:09:12,959 Blair Bateman I wanted to speak 1813 01:09:12,959 --> 01:09:13,226 to It's 5a1 that's 5a3 an item 1814 01:09:13,226 --> 01:09:13,927 51. 1815 01:09:13,927 --> 01:09:16,327 >> You'll have three minutes. 1816 01:09:19,398 --> 01:09:19,798 Please proceed. 1817 01:09:19,798 --> 01:09:20,166 >> Okay. 1818 01:09:20,166 --> 01:09:22,166 Thank you. 1819 01:09:24,504 --> 01:09:25,105 I guess first to 5 or 1 1820 01:09:25,105 --> 01:09:27,105 the electrical electric 1821 01:09:30,677 --> 01:09:31,644 electrical electric bikes that 1822 01:09:31,644 --> 01:09:35,615 I come up to to more from what 1823 01:09:35,615 --> 01:09:36,382 the future of infrastructure is 1824 01:09:36,382 --> 01:09:37,117 going to be like in terms of 1825 01:09:37,117 --> 01:09:40,717 our smart cities and e-bike use 1826 01:09:41,488 --> 01:09:42,155 And do we have good tech 1827 01:09:42,155 --> 01:09:42,789 accountability practices and 1828 01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:45,789 policies for the future of 1829 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:47,727 e-bikes? 1830 01:09:47,727 --> 01:09:50,727 The argument you guys are 1831 01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:53,407 having right now is interesting 1832 01:09:53,407 --> 01:09:54,167 . 1833 01:09:54,167 --> 01:09:54,501 Good luck how it can be 1834 01:09:54,501 --> 01:09:55,135 debated. 1835 01:09:55,135 --> 01:09:55,869 I think people should have 1836 01:09:55,869 --> 01:09:59,469 freedom but I guess that can 1837 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:00,373 always be limitations with 1838 01:10:00,373 --> 01:10:01,740 the need for safety. 1839 01:10:01,740 --> 01:10:04,674 Good luck in finding that good 1840 01:10:05,445 --> 01:10:06,780 balance and good luck on tech 1841 01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:06,780 accountability Good check 1842 01:10:06,780 --> 01:10:09,180 accountability with the future 1843 01:10:11,751 --> 01:10:15,951 of e-bikes for item I need open 1844 01:10:17,524 --> 01:10:18,125 policy and best practices for 1845 01:10:18,125 --> 01:10:20,125 both emergency transport 1846 01:10:24,698 --> 01:10:25,164 billing and collection services 1847 01:10:25,164 --> 01:10:25,899 items. 1848 01:10:25,899 --> 01:10:26,500 I wanted to reiterate the words 1849 01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:29,402 of Dara We're doing our 1850 01:10:29,402 --> 01:10:30,470 ambulance service stuff. 1851 01:10:30,470 --> 01:10:31,138 Do we need a review of how our 1852 01:10:31,138 --> 01:10:33,538 ambulance workers are taking 1853 01:10:35,842 --> 01:10:36,710 care of our people? 1854 01:10:36,710 --> 01:10:37,311 I think it should be front and 1855 01:10:37,311 --> 01:10:40,311 center of how we address 1856 01:10:41,248 --> 01:10:41,881 ourselves at this time and with 1857 01:10:41,881 --> 01:10:42,582 the police issues as well. 1858 01:10:42,582 --> 01:10:43,216 I've been mentioning that I'm 1859 01:10:43,216 --> 01:10:45,616 really surprised at what's 1860 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:48,889 happening to Andrea. 1861 01:10:48,889 --> 01:10:49,590 I mean she's a pretty innocent 1862 01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:52,590 person and she's getting real 1863 01:10:53,427 --> 01:10:54,160 railroad treatment right now. 1864 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:54,862 She's her rights are being 1865 01:10:54,862 --> 01:10:55,562 taken away And I think we have 1866 01:10:55,562 --> 01:10:58,562 to really work something right 1867 01:11:00,467 --> 01:11:00,868 now and start better 1868 01:11:00,868 --> 01:11:01,535 principles. 1869 01:11:01,535 --> 01:11:02,236 Good luck how we can do that 1870 01:11:02,236 --> 01:11:04,636 and addressing exactly what 1871 01:11:05,472 --> 01:11:06,730 the Ari was talking about, 1872 01:11:06,730 --> 01:11:06,773 what's going on with how 1873 01:11:06,773 --> 01:11:09,173 ambulance workers take people 1874 01:11:11,277 --> 01:11:12,460 to the hospital, what's going 1875 01:11:12,460 --> 01:11:12,713 on in that time period, Those 1876 01:11:12,713 --> 01:11:15,713 things have to be addressed. 1877 01:11:16,483 --> 01:11:17,184 Is it larger than just Andrea's 1878 01:11:17,184 --> 01:11:17,918 issue here in San Diego? 1879 01:11:17,918 --> 01:11:18,252 We have to consider all these 1880 01:11:18,252 --> 01:11:20,252 things. 1881 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:28,620 Um, and also for item 51 1882 01:11:28,620 --> 01:11:30,620 improvements and modernization 1883 01:11:33,167 --> 01:11:33,868 project for a an improvement 1884 01:11:33,868 --> 01:11:34,602 I'm learning important lessons 1885 01:11:34,602 --> 01:11:37,602 in the difference between storm 1886 01:11:40,407 --> 01:11:41,800 water storm drain issues and 1887 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:41,609 these are sewer systems. 1888 01:11:41,609 --> 01:11:42,760 These are all different 1889 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,760 classifications. 1890 01:11:45,846 --> 01:11:46,547 I spoke much a week or so ago 1891 01:11:46,547 --> 01:11:47,414 on my feelings of storm water 1892 01:11:47,414 --> 01:11:51,140 issues when you were working on 1893 01:11:51,986 --> 01:11:52,753 Storm drain issues the related 1894 01:11:52,753 --> 01:11:53,520 but there can be a bit of 1895 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,520 differences and I didn't mark 1896 01:11:57,491 --> 01:11:58,259 those differences I wish I did. 1897 01:11:58,259 --> 01:12:01,859 I really tried to be heartfelt 1898 01:12:03,431 --> 01:12:04,650 in my work last week and I was 1899 01:12:04,650 --> 01:12:04,799 spoken to what is the more 1900 01:12:04,799 --> 01:12:08,399 proper order of how to talk 1901 01:12:08,869 --> 01:12:09,570 about the things But 1902 01:12:09,570 --> 01:12:10,271 nonetheless my words have good 1903 01:12:10,271 --> 01:12:13,271 intentions for everyone and I 1904 01:12:15,142 --> 01:12:15,842 hope we continue to work on our 1905 01:12:15,842 --> 01:12:16,543 stuff and work on clarifying 1906 01:12:16,543 --> 01:12:17,178 language when we clarify each 1907 01:12:17,178 --> 01:12:17,511 other that it can be done 1908 01:12:17,511 --> 01:12:19,511 softly. 1909 01:12:21,982 --> 01:12:22,482 It's I have to learn that too. 1910 01:12:22,482 --> 01:12:22,849 >> Thank you. 1911 01:12:22,849 --> 01:12:23,517 Thank you. 1912 01:12:23,517 --> 01:12:24,352 Natalie Raskin Please state 1913 01:12:24,352 --> 01:12:28,552 which item or items you wish to 1914 01:12:36,663 --> 01:12:37,331 speak to. 1915 01:12:37,331 --> 01:12:37,898 I Can you hear me? 1916 01:12:37,898 --> 01:12:38,766 Yes I can hear you. 1917 01:12:38,766 --> 01:12:42,366 Which item would you like to 1918 01:12:42,737 --> 01:12:43,300 speak on Consent Item one 100 1919 01:12:43,300 --> 01:12:43,304 100. 1920 01:12:43,304 --> 01:12:45,304 Okay. 1921 01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:48,776 That's Natalie Roski. 1922 01:12:48,776 --> 01:12:49,760 The title is kind of concerning 1923 01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,760 to me. 1924 01:12:54,115 --> 01:12:58,315 It does sound a bit boxy More 1925 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:00,540 on ish. 1926 01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:00,788 It's concerning to me also that 1927 01:13:00,788 --> 01:13:03,788 there's appointed for people to 1928 01:13:06,327 --> 01:13:06,994 this board and I want to go 1929 01:13:06,994 --> 01:13:07,695 fill out an application and 1930 01:13:07,695 --> 01:13:09,931 it's saying it's not taken any 1931 01:13:09,931 --> 01:13:12,931 applications and that there are 1932 01:13:16,437 --> 01:13:17,171 seven seats available. 1933 01:13:17,171 --> 01:13:17,805 I think with the transparency 1934 01:13:17,805 --> 01:13:20,205 that is happening through 1935 01:13:22,643 --> 01:13:23,377 the city and with its 1936 01:13:23,377 --> 01:13:26,377 constituents I'm supposed to be 1937 01:13:28,816 --> 01:13:29,450 a stakeholder but it doesn't 1938 01:13:29,450 --> 01:13:32,450 seem that my stake holding 1939 01:13:34,856 --> 01:13:35,657 seems to be noticed too much 1940 01:13:35,657 --> 01:13:36,357 with this I got a letter from 1941 01:13:36,357 --> 01:13:39,357 the housing Commission that my 1942 01:13:40,395 --> 01:13:41,262 age We will end NOVEMBER 30th 1943 01:13:41,262 --> 01:13:45,700 and then I will no longer be a 1944 01:13:45,700 --> 01:13:46,670 part of any housing commission 1945 01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:48,670 available. 1946 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:52,941 >> Thank you. 1947 01:13:52,941 --> 01:13:53,607 That does conclude your time. 1948 01:13:53,607 --> 01:13:56,607 The next speaker the caller 1949 01:13:58,445 --> 01:13:59,470 with the last four digits 8700 1950 01:13:59,470 --> 01:14:02,470 Please state the item or 1951 01:14:10,425 --> 01:14:14,625 anybody wish to speak to Am I 1952 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:17,732 on You are on which item would 1953 01:14:17,732 --> 01:14:18,199 you like to okay Sorry Deputy 1954 01:14:18,199 --> 01:14:20,199 City Clerk Good. 1955 01:14:21,836 --> 01:14:22,170 >> You're doing such a good 1956 01:14:22,170 --> 01:14:24,170 job. 1957 01:14:28,242 --> 01:14:31,242 5051 Excuse me a hundred 5 or 1 1958 01:14:33,348 --> 01:14:33,748 two, 213 and four and two. 1959 01:14:33,748 --> 01:14:34,782 I'm sorry. 1960 01:14:34,782 --> 01:14:38,285 Did you get that or you want me 1961 01:14:38,285 --> 01:14:38,853 redo it? 1962 01:14:38,853 --> 01:14:39,520 >> I got that. 1963 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:39,854 You'll have a total of three 1964 01:14:39,854 --> 01:14:40,155 minutes. 1965 01:14:40,155 --> 01:14:40,655 Okay. 1966 01:14:40,655 --> 01:14:43,550 Thank you so much. 1967 01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:45,326 Okay, so 15. 1968 01:14:45,326 --> 01:14:46,940 Yes. 1969 01:14:46,940 --> 01:14:46,394 This is a very important item. 1970 01:14:46,394 --> 01:14:48,394 Yes. 1971 01:14:51,633 --> 01:14:52,266 To be to know to collect for a 1972 01:14:52,266 --> 01:14:54,266 comprehensive contract and 1973 01:14:56,370 --> 01:14:56,538 labor compliance software 1974 01:14:56,538 --> 01:14:57,239 solution support. 1975 01:14:57,239 --> 01:15:00,239 This is the administration and 1976 01:15:04,845 --> 01:15:05,647 enforcement functions of 1977 01:15:05,647 --> 01:15:08,750 the llc the play and the you'll 1978 01:15:08,750 --> 01:15:09,384 see programs Wonderful 1979 01:15:09,384 --> 01:15:11,784 wonderful important item a 1980 01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:15,991 question in today's I.T world 1981 01:15:15,991 --> 01:15:20,191 is ten years too long 51 yes to 1982 01:15:21,530 --> 01:15:22,130 Brown in Caldwell the eeoc 1983 01:15:22,130 --> 01:15:24,130 report 59 employees 11 1984 01:15:27,702 --> 01:15:28,403 subcontractors a question what 1985 01:15:28,403 --> 01:15:30,403 about under-representation in 1986 01:15:34,175 --> 01:15:34,810 the subcontractors do we follow 1987 01:15:34,810 --> 01:15:35,543 that workforce No copy of 1988 01:15:35,543 --> 01:15:38,543 the workforce report from Brown 1989 01:15:39,615 --> 01:15:40,315 and Caldwell It's what 1990 01:15:40,315 --> 01:15:43,915 the county This is one reason 1991 01:15:44,819 --> 01:15:45,486 why item 50 is so crucial 100 1992 01:15:45,486 --> 01:15:46,880 Yes to the appointments for 1993 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:48,488 the homeless Whether you 1994 01:15:50,492 --> 01:15:50,859 accounted a sense oversight 1995 01:15:50,859 --> 01:15:51,226 committee. 1996 01:15:51,226 --> 01:15:51,926 Thank you. 1997 01:15:51,926 --> 01:15:54,926 Thank you Volunteers for years 1998 01:15:56,865 --> 01:15:57,399 seems appropriate length of 1999 01:15:57,399 --> 01:15:58,660 service revenue from 2000 01:15:58,660 --> 01:16:00,466 the measure security Please 2001 01:16:03,604 --> 01:16:04,390 consider what John Brady said 2002 01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:04,774 this morning. 2003 01:16:04,774 --> 01:16:08,974 I think that's a good thing to 2004 01:16:09,311 --> 01:16:10,120 look at and 5a1 yes and thank 2005 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,612 you to council member Ken Peel 2006 01:16:15,451 --> 01:16:16,840 and all others involve on 2007 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:16,785 the e-bike prohibition for 2008 01:16:16,785 --> 01:16:19,785 under 12 one people This makes 2009 01:16:21,557 --> 01:16:22,424 sense. 2010 01:16:22,424 --> 01:16:23,250 We need to guide our young 2011 01:16:23,250 --> 01:16:23,692 people and this is very 2012 01:16:23,692 --> 01:16:26,920 important for their safety. 2013 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:28,731 So a question on that Could 2014 01:16:28,731 --> 01:16:29,231 the lack of resources affect 2015 01:16:29,231 --> 01:16:31,231 enforcement of it? 2016 01:16:34,503 --> 01:16:35,170 5 or 3 yes. 2017 01:16:35,170 --> 01:16:38,770 But will three on the fence 2018 01:16:39,207 --> 01:16:39,775 with Whitman contract for 2019 01:16:39,775 --> 01:16:40,309 ambulance building and 2020 01:16:40,309 --> 01:16:41,100 collection services? 2021 01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:45,210 Is there a program to help low 2022 01:16:45,346 --> 01:16:45,781 income people with 2023 01:16:45,781 --> 01:16:47,781 the payments? 2024 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:51,553 I'm sorry back to 502 Yes to 2025 01:16:51,553 --> 01:16:52,221 the First Amendment to all 2026 01:16:52,221 --> 01:16:55,221 involved cdb grant funds and 2027 01:16:56,825 --> 01:16:57,492 thank you This hub system 2028 01:16:57,492 --> 01:16:57,993 timeline has been bumped for 2029 01:16:57,993 --> 01:16:59,993 meeting deadlines. 2030 01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:03,932 Please be careful on that 2031 01:17:03,932 --> 01:17:04,333 involves equity and underserved 2032 01:17:04,333 --> 01:17:06,333 communities. 2033 01:17:08,270 --> 01:17:09,400 It's a good thing. 2034 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,604 So thank you to the Economic 2035 01:17:14,543 --> 01:17:15,411 Development Department. 2036 01:17:15,411 --> 01:17:16,111 So this is chock full of good 2037 01:17:16,111 --> 01:17:16,579 stuff and appreciate your work 2038 01:17:16,579 --> 01:17:18,579 on this letter. 2039 01:17:19,515 --> 01:17:20,382 Well thank you. 2040 01:17:20,382 --> 01:17:23,382 Our next speaker is Katherine 2041 01:17:24,620 --> 01:17:25,488 Douglas. 2042 01:17:25,488 --> 01:17:26,355 >> Please state which item or 2043 01:17:26,355 --> 01:17:29,955 items you would like to speak 2044 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:31,661 to Safety. 2045 01:17:31,661 --> 01:17:32,261 Okay. 2046 01:17:32,261 --> 01:17:32,728 You'll have one minute. 2047 01:17:32,728 --> 01:17:34,728 Please proceed. 2048 01:17:36,565 --> 01:17:37,233 I strongly support this common 2049 01:17:37,233 --> 01:17:37,833 sense e-bike safety proposal 2050 01:17:37,833 --> 01:17:38,501 unanimously approved by 2051 01:17:38,501 --> 01:17:40,901 the Public Safety Committee. 2052 01:17:43,139 --> 01:17:43,806 There's an urgent need for 2053 01:17:43,806 --> 01:17:44,507 practical measures that will 2054 01:17:44,507 --> 01:17:45,174 enhance public safety and help 2055 01:17:45,174 --> 01:17:47,174 prevent avoidable injuries. 2056 01:17:49,978 --> 01:17:50,680 Setting a minimum age of 12 for 2057 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:51,380 Class one and Class two e-bike 2058 01:17:51,380 --> 01:17:53,380 riders prohibiting passengers 2059 01:17:55,218 --> 01:17:55,852 unless a bike is specifically 2060 01:17:55,852 --> 01:17:56,252 designed with a permanent 2061 01:17:56,252 --> 01:17:58,252 second seat. 2062 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:01,524 These are simple common sense 2063 01:18:01,524 --> 01:18:02,225 safety measures. 2064 01:18:02,225 --> 01:18:02,925 These safeguards will protect 2065 01:18:02,925 --> 01:18:05,325 young riders, reduce dangerous 2066 01:18:06,962 --> 01:18:07,630 riding behaviors, make our 2067 01:18:07,630 --> 01:18:08,431 streets safer for everyone. 2068 01:18:08,431 --> 01:18:12,310 As as e-bike usage continues to 2069 01:18:13,436 --> 01:18:14,137 grow, kids need these 2070 01:18:14,137 --> 01:18:14,837 protections now more than ever 2071 01:18:14,837 --> 01:18:18,437 to ensure they can ride safely 2072 01:18:19,410 --> 01:18:19,742 and responsibly while 2073 01:18:19,742 --> 01:18:20,309 protecting those around them. 2074 01:18:20,309 --> 01:18:23,309 I urge you to support 2075 01:18:24,380 --> 01:18:25,470 Councilmember Campos proposal 2076 01:18:25,470 --> 01:18:25,548 and swiftly implement these 2077 01:18:25,548 --> 01:18:25,982 much needed safety 2078 01:18:25,982 --> 01:18:27,982 improvements. 2079 01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:31,200 Thank you very much. 2080 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:31,654 >> Thank you. 2081 01:18:31,654 --> 01:18:32,355 That does conclude public 2082 01:18:32,355 --> 01:18:35,355 comment on the consent agenda. 2083 01:18:36,692 --> 01:18:37,930 All right. 2084 01:18:37,930 --> 01:18:37,760 Thank you. 2085 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:38,394 Deputy Clerk turned over to 2086 01:18:38,394 --> 01:18:39,128 council members Questions, 2087 01:18:39,128 --> 01:18:39,762 comments Entertain a motion and 2088 01:18:39,762 --> 01:18:42,432 we will start with council 2089 01:18:42,432 --> 01:18:43,990 member Campbell. 2090 01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:43,699 Thank you Council PRESIDENT 2091 01:18:43,699 --> 01:18:44,233 Thank you to members of 2092 01:18:44,233 --> 01:18:44,967 the public for their 2093 01:18:44,967 --> 01:18:47,770 participation today I will move 2094 01:18:47,770 --> 01:18:48,571 approval of the consent agenda 2095 01:18:48,571 --> 01:18:52,171 and speak briefly to item 5a1 2096 01:18:53,509 --> 01:18:54,177 The regulations on e-bikes. 2097 01:18:54,177 --> 01:18:54,878 This ordinance comes down to 2098 01:18:54,878 --> 01:18:55,511 one simple question for me and 2099 01:18:55,511 --> 01:18:58,511 my constituents If we know 2100 01:18:59,249 --> 01:19:00,160 children are being seriously 2101 01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:00,750 injured on e-bikes and we have 2102 01:19:00,750 --> 01:19:04,220 the legal authority to act, why 2103 01:19:04,220 --> 01:19:04,955 wouldn't we? 2104 01:19:04,955 --> 01:19:05,655 As a parent of two young 2105 01:19:05,655 --> 01:19:06,122 children, a former fifth grade 2106 01:19:06,122 --> 01:19:06,756 teacher as well? 2107 01:19:06,756 --> 01:19:09,292 Child safety is always at 2108 01:19:09,292 --> 01:19:09,725 the top of my mind and I've 2109 01:19:09,725 --> 01:19:10,493 seen the data. 2110 01:19:10,493 --> 01:19:11,160 I've spoken with the families. 2111 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:11,828 I've spoken to the doctors. 2112 01:19:11,828 --> 01:19:14,828 I've heard from health care 2113 01:19:15,331 --> 01:19:16,320 professionals and educators In 2114 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:16,699 the message is clear They want 2115 01:19:16,699 --> 01:19:17,133 to see us do more to protect 2116 01:19:17,133 --> 01:19:19,133 our children. 2117 01:19:20,837 --> 01:19:21,604 Today's e-bikes are not 2118 01:19:21,604 --> 01:19:21,938 the bicycles many of us grew up 2119 01:19:21,938 --> 01:19:22,639 writing. 2120 01:19:22,639 --> 01:19:25,639 They travel farther and faster 2121 01:19:26,276 --> 01:19:26,909 often in traffic alongside cars 2122 01:19:26,909 --> 01:19:27,610 And yet many young writers 2123 01:19:27,610 --> 01:19:28,278 haven't received the training 2124 01:19:28,278 --> 01:19:32,449 on the rules of the road or 2125 01:19:32,449 --> 01:19:33,160 safe riding practices. 2126 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,416 So this ordinance uses 2127 01:19:36,285 --> 01:19:37,530 the authority provided by ab 2128 01:19:37,530 --> 01:19:37,787 2234 to establish common sense 2129 01:19:37,787 --> 01:19:40,187 guardrails focused on education 2130 01:19:41,825 --> 01:19:42,592 and accountability and safety. 2131 01:19:42,592 --> 01:19:43,293 The goal is not to punish 2132 01:19:43,293 --> 01:19:45,293 anyone particularly children. 2133 01:19:47,898 --> 01:19:48,431 The goal is to prevent injuries 2134 01:19:48,431 --> 01:19:49,132 before they happen. 2135 01:19:49,132 --> 01:19:49,799 I want to particularly thank 2136 01:19:49,799 --> 01:19:52,199 Assembly member Tasha Burner 2137 01:19:52,401 --> 01:19:53,102 for authoring ab 2234 and 2138 01:19:53,102 --> 01:19:53,837 Senator Catherine Blake Speer 2139 01:19:53,837 --> 01:19:56,237 whose upcoming legislation will 2140 01:19:57,307 --> 01:19:57,741 put more responsibility on 2141 01:19:57,741 --> 01:19:58,475 manufacturers. 2142 01:19:58,475 --> 01:19:58,775 And that has my full support as 2143 01:19:58,775 --> 01:20:00,775 well. 2144 01:20:03,613 --> 01:20:04,181 E-bikes are and can be a great 2145 01:20:04,181 --> 01:20:06,181 transportation option. 2146 01:20:08,185 --> 01:20:08,852 But safety cannot be optional. 2147 01:20:08,852 --> 01:20:09,519 So when children are being 2148 01:20:09,519 --> 01:20:10,220 seriously injured and other 2149 01:20:10,220 --> 01:20:12,620 pedestrians walking around or 2150 01:20:13,356 --> 01:20:13,890 being injured doing nothing 2151 01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:14,624 can't be an option. 2152 01:20:14,624 --> 01:20:17,624 Our state legislature allows us 2153 01:20:18,595 --> 01:20:19,296 allows for this ordinance to be 2154 01:20:19,296 --> 01:20:19,963 a tool to protect children and 2155 01:20:19,963 --> 01:20:22,363 protect everyone really and 2156 01:20:23,833 --> 01:20:24,634 collect evidence for several 2157 01:20:24,634 --> 01:20:25,350 years to help shape policy into 2158 01:20:25,350 --> 01:20:25,736 the future. 2159 01:20:25,736 --> 01:20:28,136 This ordinance is reasonable. 2160 01:20:29,500 --> 01:20:29,706 It's balanced and the necessary 2161 01:20:29,706 --> 01:20:30,440 step to protect young riders, 2162 01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:31,174 their families and everyone who 2163 01:20:31,174 --> 01:20:34,174 shares our roads and sidewalks. 2164 01:20:35,444 --> 01:20:36,450 So with that I respectfully ask 2165 01:20:36,450 --> 01:20:36,747 support of the Council. 2166 01:20:36,747 --> 01:20:37,414 And that concludes my motion. 2167 01:20:37,414 --> 01:20:37,781 Council PRESIDENT All right. 2168 01:20:37,781 --> 01:20:39,781 Thank you. 2169 01:20:40,617 --> 01:20:41,218 Council Member Kennedy So we 2170 01:20:41,218 --> 01:20:42,180 have a motion to move 2171 01:20:42,180 --> 01:20:44,387 the consent items not seen in 2172 01:20:44,387 --> 01:20:45,255 the light. 2173 01:20:45,255 --> 01:20:45,989 I'll second it and I will thank 2174 01:20:45,989 --> 01:20:48,989 you Council Member for bringing 2175 01:20:49,993 --> 01:20:50,761 the item forward and I will 2176 01:20:50,761 --> 01:20:53,161 join you in expressing 2177 01:20:56,633 --> 01:20:57,366 the frustration for the good 2178 01:20:57,366 --> 01:20:58,350 work that Senator Blake's mayor 2179 01:20:58,350 --> 01:20:58,768 and Assembly member Barnard 2180 01:20:58,768 --> 01:21:00,971 have been trying to have common 2181 01:21:00,971 --> 01:21:01,705 sense legislation and having a 2182 01:21:01,705 --> 01:21:02,272 tough time up in Sacramento but 2183 01:21:02,272 --> 01:21:05,272 at least we have this. 2184 01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:06,643 Thank you for taking that 2185 01:21:06,643 --> 01:21:07,277 opportunity for the pilot 2186 01:21:07,277 --> 01:21:07,844 program And I thank you to 2187 01:21:07,844 --> 01:21:10,244 the city attorney for 2188 01:21:10,814 --> 01:21:11,482 clarifying that this will have 2189 01:21:11,482 --> 01:21:12,182 the same term of whatever of 2190 01:21:12,182 --> 01:21:15,182 the state legislation is going 2191 01:21:17,287 --> 01:21:18,155 forward. 2192 01:21:18,155 --> 01:21:18,822 So we have a motion by Council 2193 01:21:18,822 --> 01:21:20,891 member Campi and a second by 2194 01:21:20,891 --> 01:21:21,692 myself to move the consent 2195 01:21:21,692 --> 01:21:22,225 items will go next to council 2196 01:21:22,225 --> 01:21:24,225 member Ella Rivera. 2197 01:21:25,463 --> 01:21:26,530 >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT 2198 01:21:26,530 --> 01:21:30,130 I will first be asking some 2199 01:21:31,735 --> 01:21:32,269 questions about item 100 2200 01:21:32,269 --> 01:21:32,936 the appointments to 2201 01:21:32,936 --> 01:21:35,336 the homeless revenue account 2202 01:21:36,740 --> 01:21:37,775 Citizen Oversight Committee. 2203 01:21:37,775 --> 01:21:41,975 This has nothing to do with it 2204 01:21:42,179 --> 01:21:42,913 Specific resumes or 2205 01:21:42,913 --> 01:21:45,913 qualifications of the folks who 2206 01:21:47,500 --> 01:21:47,818 are being nominated today. 2207 01:21:47,818 --> 01:21:48,552 But I do think that it's 2208 01:21:48,552 --> 01:21:50,952 incredibly important that there 2209 01:21:52,489 --> 01:21:53,900 eventually be folks who have 2210 01:21:53,900 --> 01:21:55,490 lived experience on that 2211 01:21:56,293 --> 01:21:56,894 committee That's especially 2212 01:21:56,894 --> 01:21:59,294 important since as was 2213 01:22:01,432 --> 01:22:02,660 mentioned in public comment 2214 01:22:02,660 --> 01:22:02,733 the service providers will 2215 01:22:02,733 --> 01:22:05,133 almost certainly be excluded 2216 01:22:06,770 --> 01:22:08,770 from participating. 2217 01:22:11,742 --> 01:22:12,442 That experience of having been 2218 01:22:12,442 --> 01:22:14,842 homeless tried to navigate 2219 01:22:17,447 --> 01:22:18,820 the system seeing what works 2220 01:22:18,820 --> 01:22:18,682 and what doesn't work from 2221 01:22:18,682 --> 01:22:20,682 various perspectives is 2222 01:22:22,190 --> 01:22:22,886 incredibly important. 2223 01:22:22,886 --> 01:22:23,486 We know that when the city has 2224 01:22:23,486 --> 01:22:26,486 done our best work on 2225 01:22:26,524 --> 01:22:27,257 homelessness it has been very 2226 01:22:27,257 --> 01:22:30,857 much guided by people with that 2227 01:22:31,195 --> 01:22:31,896 experience at the table not as 2228 01:22:31,896 --> 01:22:35,496 a as an afterthought, not as 2229 01:22:36,500 --> 01:22:37,101 window dressing but as you know 2230 01:22:37,101 --> 01:22:37,668 in a meaningful way that 2231 01:22:37,668 --> 01:22:38,336 actually helps inform 2232 01:22:38,336 --> 01:22:40,604 the direction that is being 2233 01:22:40,604 --> 01:22:41,438 being headed. 2234 01:22:41,438 --> 01:22:42,139 So I am happy to support 2235 01:22:42,139 --> 01:22:45,139 the appointments of the folks 2236 01:22:45,376 --> 01:22:46,210 who are nominated today. 2237 01:22:46,210 --> 01:22:46,944 I will not be supporting any 2238 01:22:46,944 --> 01:22:49,344 additional appointments to this 2239 01:22:50,882 --> 01:22:51,648 committee until there are until 2240 01:22:51,648 --> 01:22:54,648 at least someone with lived 2241 01:22:55,452 --> 01:22:55,752 experience is appointed after 2242 01:22:55,752 --> 01:22:56,453 this. 2243 01:22:56,453 --> 01:22:57,188 I just want to be transparent 2244 01:22:57,188 --> 01:23:00,157 about that because I do think 2245 01:23:00,157 --> 01:23:00,825 it's it's critical to ensure 2246 01:23:00,825 --> 01:23:03,825 that the intended effect of 2247 01:23:04,796 --> 01:23:05,496 this committee lands in the way 2248 01:23:05,496 --> 01:23:09,960 that it's supposed to land in 2249 01:23:09,534 --> 01:23:10,268 terms of impact item as 5 or 1 2250 01:23:10,268 --> 01:23:13,268 appreciate the work that's been 2251 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:15,720 done here. 2252 01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,100 The one thing that I will flag 2253 01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:22,880 is wanting to be sure that we 2254 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:23,614 are tracking what 2255 01:23:23,614 --> 01:23:24,382 the enforcement of this 2256 01:23:24,382 --> 01:23:27,382 ordinance looks like Once that 2257 01:23:28,352 --> 01:23:28,786 does go into effect there are 2258 01:23:28,786 --> 01:23:30,786 already gross 2259 01:23:33,224 --> 01:23:33,924 disproportionality in terms of 2260 01:23:33,924 --> 01:23:34,425 enforcement of the variety of 2261 01:23:34,425 --> 01:23:36,825 laws in the city. 2262 01:23:40,431 --> 01:23:42,831 Young people experience those 2263 01:23:44,768 --> 01:23:45,403 disproportionate enforcements 2264 01:23:45,403 --> 01:23:46,103 in a significant way. 2265 01:23:46,103 --> 01:23:49,103 The school to prison pipeline 2266 01:23:49,741 --> 01:23:50,675 is real. 2267 01:23:50,675 --> 01:23:54,275 The youth to prison pipeline is 2268 01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:59,918 real And I want to be sure that 2269 01:23:59,918 --> 01:24:00,551 this ordinance is being 2270 01:24:00,551 --> 01:24:01,186 enforced with the intended 2271 01:24:01,186 --> 01:24:03,586 effect of protecting young 2272 01:24:04,622 --> 01:24:08,222 people from harm not as a 2273 01:24:09,461 --> 01:24:10,161 pretext to additional contacts 2274 01:24:10,161 --> 01:24:10,795 with law from law enforcement 2275 01:24:10,795 --> 01:24:13,195 to young people especially 2276 01:24:14,532 --> 01:24:15,467 young people of color. 2277 01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:18,969 I do I, I will be very closely 2278 01:24:18,969 --> 01:24:19,603 looking to see that black and 2279 01:24:19,603 --> 01:24:20,338 brown youth are not being 2280 01:24:20,338 --> 01:24:22,338 disproportionately targeted for 2281 01:24:24,342 --> 01:24:25,430 enforcement of this law. 2282 01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:25,376 So understand the desired 2283 01:24:25,376 --> 01:24:27,376 effect. 2284 01:24:29,114 --> 01:24:32,714 I too have been very concerned 2285 01:24:33,151 --> 01:24:33,918 at times when I've seen young 2286 01:24:33,918 --> 01:24:36,918 folks bombing down hills on 2287 01:24:38,456 --> 01:24:42,560 e-bikes and all of that All 2288 01:24:43,194 --> 01:24:44,620 that can go wrong there and 2289 01:24:44,620 --> 01:24:47,565 again just want to be sure that 2290 01:24:47,565 --> 01:24:48,165 we're not opening the door to 2291 01:24:48,165 --> 01:24:48,766 disproportionate and 2292 01:24:48,766 --> 01:24:50,766 unnecessary interactions 2293 01:24:57,242 --> 01:24:57,976 between young folks and the in 2294 01:24:57,976 --> 01:24:58,310 law enforcement or the justice 2295 01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:59,100 system. 2296 01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:02,610 And I'll just play out one 2297 01:25:02,881 --> 01:25:05,817 example where we could see this 2298 01:25:05,817 --> 01:25:06,684 happening where a young person 2299 01:25:06,684 --> 01:25:09,840 13 or 14 years old, maybe 15, 2300 01:25:10,488 --> 01:25:11,456 16 or 17 depending on how 2301 01:25:11,456 --> 01:25:15,560 creative folks want to be in 2302 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:16,861 terms of of enforcing this or 2303 01:25:16,861 --> 01:25:19,861 attempting to enforce this law 2304 01:25:21,660 --> 01:25:21,766 gets stopped with the pretext 2305 01:25:21,766 --> 01:25:22,234 of checking to make sure that 2306 01:25:22,234 --> 01:25:24,634 the person is of 2307 01:25:25,704 --> 01:25:26,505 the appropriate age to be 2308 01:25:26,505 --> 01:25:30,700 riding a class one or class two 2309 01:25:30,700 --> 01:25:30,675 e-bike and that initiates an 2310 01:25:30,675 --> 01:25:32,675 unnecessary contact between 2311 01:25:35,130 --> 01:25:35,413 that young person and 2312 01:25:35,413 --> 01:25:36,281 the system. 2313 01:25:36,281 --> 01:25:39,881 If that person is not carrying 2314 01:25:39,985 --> 01:25:40,652 id you can kind of see it going 2315 01:25:40,652 --> 01:25:44,156 from there in terms of what 2316 01:25:44,156 --> 01:25:44,756 that contact can look like And 2317 01:25:44,756 --> 01:25:45,457 again thinking about my 2318 01:25:45,457 --> 01:25:46,580 constituents, the young folks 2319 01:25:46,580 --> 01:25:49,580 that I worked with over 2320 01:25:49,361 --> 01:25:52,961 the years who have have had 2321 01:25:53,998 --> 01:25:54,666 negative experiences that very 2322 01:25:54,666 --> 01:25:57,660 rarely involve them actually 2323 01:25:57,702 --> 01:26:00,102 causing harm but has 2324 01:26:02,507 --> 01:26:03,207 permanently clouded their their 2325 01:26:03,207 --> 01:26:06,207 perception of the city, their 2326 01:26:07,546 --> 01:26:08,413 perception of public safety. 2327 01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:12,830 I want to make sure that this 2328 01:26:12,830 --> 01:26:12,384 doesn't open the door for that 2329 01:26:12,384 --> 01:26:13,118 . 2330 01:26:13,118 --> 01:26:13,819 And then lastly just want to 2331 01:26:13,819 --> 01:26:17,322 make sure that we continue to 2332 01:26:17,322 --> 01:26:18,560 to encourage folks to to ride 2333 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:18,757 when possible that we encourage 2334 01:26:18,757 --> 01:26:21,757 folks to develop those habits 2335 01:26:21,993 --> 01:26:22,761 rather than discourage that. 2336 01:26:22,761 --> 01:26:23,462 That's important to me as well. 2337 01:26:23,462 --> 01:26:23,795 So I appreciate the intended 2338 01:26:23,795 --> 01:26:25,795 effect. 2339 01:26:27,332 --> 01:26:28,330 I will support the motion in 2340 01:26:28,330 --> 01:26:28,700 front of us but we'll be 2341 01:26:28,700 --> 01:26:31,700 looking closely to make sure 2342 01:26:31,904 --> 01:26:32,504 that it's not being enforced in 2343 01:26:32,504 --> 01:26:32,871 a disproportionate way. 2344 01:26:32,871 --> 01:26:33,539 Thank you. 2345 01:26:33,539 --> 01:26:34,272 Council PRESIDENT All right. 2346 01:26:34,272 --> 01:26:34,605 Thank you, Council Member de La 2347 01:26:34,605 --> 01:26:36,542 Rivera. 2348 01:26:36,542 --> 01:26:37,142 We'll go next to Council member 2349 01:26:37,142 --> 01:26:37,709 Foster Yes, thank you. 2350 01:26:37,709 --> 01:26:39,709 >> Council PRESIDENT. 2351 01:26:41,380 --> 01:26:42,800 i just would like to register I 2352 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,800 will be supporting the consent 2353 01:26:45,684 --> 01:26:46,552 agenda but I would like to 2354 01:26:46,552 --> 01:26:50,152 register a no vote for item 2355 01:26:51,190 --> 01:26:52,570 number 50. 2356 01:26:52,570 --> 01:26:55,570 The new contract with Biji 2357 01:26:56,195 --> 01:27:00,165 would be to g Now again we are 2358 01:27:00,165 --> 01:27:00,832 ending a contract with a 2359 01:27:00,832 --> 01:27:03,232 certified black women owned 2360 01:27:05,203 --> 01:27:05,905 woman owned business and we are 2361 01:27:05,905 --> 01:27:08,905 entering into a new agreement 2362 01:27:09,308 --> 01:27:09,975 with a non certified firm at 2363 01:27:09,975 --> 01:27:13,575 double the cost and that is 2364 01:27:13,846 --> 01:27:14,780 very problematic for me. 2365 01:27:14,780 --> 01:27:15,800 So I will be registering a no 2366 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:15,447 vote. 2367 01:27:15,447 --> 01:27:17,447 All right. 2368 01:27:19,318 --> 01:27:19,618 Thank you, Councilmember Foster 2369 01:27:19,618 --> 01:27:20,419 . 2370 01:27:20,419 --> 01:27:21,120 We'll go back to council member 2371 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:21,587 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 2372 01:27:21,587 --> 01:27:23,587 I appreciate it. 2373 01:27:23,589 --> 01:27:24,356 Councilmember Eloy Rivera's 2374 01:27:24,356 --> 01:27:27,356 points are completely spot on 2375 01:27:28,727 --> 01:27:29,361 on the historical and societal 2376 01:27:29,361 --> 01:27:29,662 effects that he's talking 2377 01:27:29,662 --> 01:27:31,662 about. 2378 01:27:32,980 --> 01:27:32,764 I just want to point out about 2379 01:27:32,764 --> 01:27:33,432 20 to 34 does account for 2380 01:27:33,432 --> 01:27:34,650 collection of the data that 2381 01:27:34,650 --> 01:27:36,802 he's pointing out that are 2382 01:27:36,802 --> 01:27:37,570 important. 2383 01:27:37,570 --> 01:27:38,237 Subsection d of that state law 2384 01:27:38,237 --> 01:27:41,574 says that the when we submit 2385 01:27:41,574 --> 01:27:42,207 the data to the state to 2386 01:27:42,207 --> 01:27:42,908 the state legislature as a 2387 01:27:42,908 --> 01:27:45,908 result of this pilot program, 2388 01:27:46,780 --> 01:27:47,450 it does include how many times 2389 01:27:47,450 --> 01:27:50,645 a person is stopped while under 2390 01:27:50,716 --> 01:27:51,417 the age of 12 but then where 2391 01:27:51,417 --> 01:27:54,417 they an officer thought they 2392 01:27:55,221 --> 01:27:55,955 were under the age of 12 but 2393 01:27:55,955 --> 01:27:56,655 was in fact over the age limit. 2394 01:27:56,655 --> 01:27:59,791 The officer does have to take 2395 01:27:59,791 --> 01:28:00,426 down information about 2396 01:28:00,426 --> 01:28:01,127 perceived race, ethnicity, 2397 01:28:01,127 --> 01:28:04,127 gender and approximate age of 2398 01:28:04,830 --> 01:28:05,464 the person stopped and provided 2399 01:28:05,464 --> 01:28:06,199 that the identification of 2400 01:28:06,199 --> 01:28:06,866 these characteristics is solely 2401 01:28:06,866 --> 01:28:07,466 based on the observation or 2402 01:28:07,466 --> 01:28:09,735 perception of the police 2403 01:28:09,735 --> 01:28:10,236 officer who initiated 2404 01:28:10,236 --> 01:28:10,937 the traffic stop. 2405 01:28:10,937 --> 01:28:14,240 So I appreciate his points on 2406 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:14,941 that And note that the state 2407 01:28:14,941 --> 01:28:15,541 legislature does require us to 2408 01:28:15,541 --> 01:28:17,941 collect and submit that 2409 01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:19,645 information to protect against 2410 01:28:19,645 --> 01:28:20,346 the issues he brought up. 2411 01:28:20,346 --> 01:28:20,713 So thank you for those points. 2412 01:28:20,713 --> 01:28:22,713 All right. 2413 01:28:24,450 --> 01:28:25,118 Thank you, sir. 2414 01:28:25,118 --> 01:28:25,518 Not seeing anyone else in 2415 01:28:25,518 --> 01:28:26,119 the lights. 2416 01:28:26,119 --> 01:28:27,653 We have a motion by 2417 01:28:27,653 --> 01:28:27,987 Councilmember Campos second by 2418 01:28:27,987 --> 01:28:28,588 myself. 2419 01:28:28,588 --> 01:28:28,955 Deputy Clerk Please call 2420 01:28:28,955 --> 01:28:29,722 the roll. 2421 01:28:29,722 --> 01:28:30,220 I have set up the voting system 2422 01:28:30,220 --> 01:28:32,220 . 2423 01:28:44,938 --> 01:28:45,638 Please cast your vote Count 2424 01:28:45,638 --> 01:28:46,339 Councilmember Woodburn, can we 2425 01:28:46,339 --> 01:28:46,639 get a voice vote from you as 2426 01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:47,106 well? 2427 01:28:47,106 --> 01:28:49,106 Yes, thank you. 2428 01:28:49,576 --> 01:28:50,276 The item passes unanimously 2429 01:28:50,276 --> 01:28:53,746 with district for a casting a 2430 01:28:53,746 --> 01:28:57,346 no vote on item number 50 and 2431 01:28:57,650 --> 01:28:58,284 districts one and districts 2432 01:28:58,284 --> 01:28:58,850 five and District two and 2433 01:28:58,850 --> 01:29:00,850 District five absent. 2434 01:29:01,754 --> 01:29:02,422 Thank you Council PRESIDENT. 2435 01:29:02,422 --> 01:29:04,822 >> Stephanie's messed up my 2436 01:29:06,859 --> 01:29:07,493 head with that we have any 2437 01:29:07,493 --> 01:29:09,893 comments by mayors office 2438 01:29:10,963 --> 01:29:11,631 council member City attorney 2439 01:29:11,631 --> 01:29:13,631 Independent Budget analyst. 2440 01:29:15,968 --> 01:29:16,568 City Clerk The only comment I 2441 01:29:16,568 --> 01:29:17,237 have to follow up on 2442 01:29:17,237 --> 01:29:19,237 Councilmember Eloy Rivera's 2443 01:29:19,905 --> 01:29:20,606 comments regarding item 101 of 2444 01:29:20,606 --> 01:29:21,273 the appointees does have lived 2445 01:29:21,273 --> 01:29:23,673 experience but I completely 2446 01:29:24,610 --> 01:29:25,177 understand your concern and 2447 01:29:25,177 --> 01:29:25,711 your request that for 2448 01:29:25,711 --> 01:29:26,412 the remaining three 2449 01:29:26,412 --> 01:29:29,412 appointments to keep that top 2450 01:29:30,217 --> 01:29:30,583 of mind so completely. 2451 01:29:30,583 --> 01:29:31,450 All right. 2452 01:29:31,450 --> 01:29:34,854 Thank you for that input Kota 2453 01:29:34,854 --> 01:29:35,722 not seeing anybody else we will 2454 01:29:35,722 --> 01:29:39,322 now take up non agenda public 2455 01:29:39,392 --> 01:29:40,600 comment. 2456 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:40,760 Council members respect and 2457 01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:41,394 appreciate the public's input 2458 01:29:41,394 --> 01:29:43,563 and are fully committed to 2459 01:29:43,563 --> 01:29:44,264 protecting every participant's 2460 01:29:44,264 --> 01:29:44,864 free speech rights at council 2461 01:29:44,864 --> 01:29:46,864 and committee meetings. 2462 01:29:48,301 --> 01:29:48,835 Deputy Clerk Please proceed 2463 01:29:48,835 --> 01:29:49,202 with public comment. 2464 01:29:49,202 --> 01:29:51,202 Thank you. 2465 01:29:52,404 --> 01:29:53,106 Council PRESIDENT Per Rule 2.7 2466 01:29:53,106 --> 01:29:53,773 on Agenda Public comment is an 2467 01:29:53,773 --> 01:29:56,173 opportunity for members of 2468 01:29:57,900 --> 01:29:58,129 the public to comment on items 2469 01:29:58,129 --> 01:29:58,360 that are not on the agenda but 2470 01:29:58,360 --> 01:29:58,945 within the subject matter 2471 01:29:58,945 --> 01:30:01,345 jurisdiction of the City 2472 01:30:01,615 --> 01:30:02,282 Council. 2473 01:30:02,282 --> 01:30:02,616 Each speaker will have two 2474 01:30:02,616 --> 01:30:04,616 minutes. 2475 01:30:05,151 --> 01:30:05,952 Please note if there are eight 2476 01:30:05,952 --> 01:30:06,586 or more speakers on a single 2477 01:30:06,586 --> 01:30:09,488 topic the maximum time for 2478 01:30:09,488 --> 01:30:10,223 the topic will be 16 minutes. 2479 01:30:10,223 --> 01:30:10,957 If you are in the committee 2480 01:30:10,957 --> 01:30:13,957 room please submit your speaker 2481 01:30:14,261 --> 01:30:15,280 slip. 2482 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:15,762 If you are joining us virtually 2483 01:30:15,762 --> 01:30:18,999 please raise your hand to speak 2484 01:30:18,999 --> 01:30:20,660 by tapping the Raise your hand 2485 01:30:20,660 --> 01:30:23,737 icon or if you are a call in 2486 01:30:23,737 --> 01:30:24,604 participant star nine. 2487 01:30:24,604 --> 01:30:28,204 We will begin with in person 2488 01:30:28,675 --> 01:30:29,209 comment Maximillian Schmitt 2489 01:30:29,209 --> 01:30:29,943 Please come forward. 2490 01:30:29,943 --> 01:30:32,943 You'll have two minutes to 2491 01:30:38,118 --> 01:30:38,985 speak. 2492 01:30:38,985 --> 01:30:40,985 Communist countries across 2493 01:30:42,656 --> 01:30:43,290 the world are eliminating 2494 01:30:43,290 --> 01:30:45,690 dissidents and killing off 2495 01:30:47,427 --> 01:30:48,295 anyone who opposes them and how 2496 01:30:48,295 --> 01:30:51,895 they do this Is there actually 2497 01:30:52,832 --> 01:30:53,467 people What if I told you that 2498 01:30:53,467 --> 01:30:56,467 if someone does a hermetic 2499 01:30:57,304 --> 01:30:57,904 chant in a masonic lodge they 2500 01:30:57,904 --> 01:30:58,639 have the ability to look 2501 01:30:58,639 --> 01:30:59,172 through your eyes and read your 2502 01:30:59,172 --> 01:31:01,572 mind and access your 2503 01:31:01,742 --> 01:31:02,509 consciousness completely. 2504 01:31:02,509 --> 01:31:03,430 And what's going on is 2505 01:31:03,430 --> 01:31:05,430 communist countries. 2506 01:31:06,780 --> 01:31:07,347 If someone's a dissident they 2507 01:31:07,347 --> 01:31:08,140 will actually surround 2508 01:31:08,140 --> 01:31:11,140 the dissident and they will 2509 01:31:12,318 --> 01:31:13,850 speak gibberish half gibberish 2510 01:31:13,850 --> 01:31:16,850 half on like patronizing their 2511 01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:17,558 private thoughts to drive them 2512 01:31:17,558 --> 01:31:21,158 mentally ill to on suicide or 2513 01:31:21,327 --> 01:31:21,695 mental illness or drug 2514 01:31:21,695 --> 01:31:22,396 addiction. 2515 01:31:22,396 --> 01:31:22,796 And it's it's extremely cruel 2516 01:31:22,796 --> 01:31:23,397 and unusual. 2517 01:31:23,397 --> 01:31:25,699 What's the equivalent of 2518 01:31:25,699 --> 01:31:26,400 wearing headphones speaking 2519 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,800 gibberish or patronizing your 2520 01:31:30,537 --> 01:31:31,271 private thoughts nonstop and 2521 01:31:31,271 --> 01:31:31,939 that those communist tactics to 2522 01:31:31,939 --> 01:31:34,339 remove dissidents has sadly 2523 01:31:35,876 --> 01:31:36,577 spilled over into San Diego 2524 01:31:36,577 --> 01:31:40,177 where I'm someone who's done a 2525 01:31:41,281 --> 01:31:42,349 lot of grassroots on my own on 2526 01:31:42,349 --> 01:31:46,153 my own free time I took it upon 2527 01:31:46,153 --> 01:31:47,200 myself to go to the store and 2528 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,323 get a Trump flag and wave a 2529 01:31:50,323 --> 01:31:51,191 Trump flag on the corner. 2530 01:31:51,191 --> 01:31:54,962 That's what I like to do for 2531 01:31:54,962 --> 01:31:55,629 fun And after that happened I 2532 01:31:55,629 --> 01:31:58,629 started to get surrounded by 2533 01:31:59,633 --> 01:32:00,300 people telepathic Freemasons 2534 01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:02,300 speaking gibberish nonstop, 2535 01:32:04,738 --> 01:32:05,439 driving me insane, driving me 2536 01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:06,400 crazy And I wanted to say 2537 01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,400 the gop doesn't do that. 2538 01:32:09,342 --> 01:32:10,210 We don't target people who 2539 01:32:10,210 --> 01:32:14,247 don't like the gop and try to 2540 01:32:14,247 --> 01:32:14,848 drive them crazy and kill them 2541 01:32:14,848 --> 01:32:15,216 with driving them crazy 2542 01:32:15,216 --> 01:32:17,216 gibberish. 2543 01:32:19,190 --> 01:32:19,620 That's what communists do and 2544 01:32:19,620 --> 01:32:20,354 that's what liberals do. 2545 01:32:20,354 --> 01:32:23,390 And I want to make it clear 2546 01:32:23,390 --> 01:32:23,824 that liberals do not care about 2547 01:32:23,824 --> 01:32:24,491 human rights. 2548 01:32:24,491 --> 01:32:25,125 They're supposed to be like 2549 01:32:25,125 --> 01:32:28,125 the party that cares about 2550 01:32:28,262 --> 01:32:31,262 human rights, cares about any 2551 01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:33,134 hate against homosexuals, cares 2552 01:32:33,134 --> 01:32:33,868 about illegal immigrants. 2553 01:32:33,868 --> 01:32:36,268 However they're using communist 2554 01:32:38,138 --> 01:32:38,606 tactics to kill people who 2555 01:32:38,606 --> 01:32:39,340 don't like them. 2556 01:32:39,340 --> 01:32:39,806 >> So liberals aren't the party 2557 01:32:39,806 --> 01:32:41,806 of human rights. 2558 01:32:42,175 --> 01:32:42,576 They're phonies. 2559 01:32:42,576 --> 01:32:43,277 Thank you. 2560 01:32:43,277 --> 01:32:46,277 That does conclude your time. 2561 01:32:51,284 --> 01:32:52,253 Next up is allegedly Andre 2562 01:32:52,253 --> 01:32:55,853 lived to experience should be a 2563 01:32:57,257 --> 01:32:57,958 requirement not for that but 2564 01:32:57,958 --> 01:32:58,726 whatever I mean because I feel 2565 01:32:58,726 --> 01:33:01,662 like you're just saying that 2566 01:33:01,662 --> 01:33:02,363 you're going to do that and 2567 01:33:02,363 --> 01:33:05,963 role I would actually say that 2568 01:33:06,333 --> 01:33:07,680 collecting that guilt data on 2569 01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:07,802 children under 12 could be very 2570 01:33:07,802 --> 01:33:10,802 concerning with the things that 2571 01:33:11,472 --> 01:33:12,139 happen with children and data 2572 01:33:12,139 --> 01:33:14,539 collection with your guys's 2573 01:33:16,243 --> 01:33:17,111 cannabis item yesterday. 2574 01:33:17,111 --> 01:33:17,712 I'm wondering if you know that 2575 01:33:17,712 --> 01:33:20,712 in DECEMBER that it got 2576 01:33:21,318 --> 01:33:22,820 reclassified as a schedule 2577 01:33:22,820 --> 01:33:22,750 three like ketamine and so it's 2578 01:33:22,750 --> 01:33:25,750 going to have to be 2579 01:33:26,721 --> 01:33:27,455 pharmaceutical grade and have 2580 01:33:27,455 --> 01:33:29,855 like fda approved manufacturing 2581 01:33:31,225 --> 01:33:31,992 and all of these things. 2582 01:33:31,992 --> 01:33:32,726 So as you're bringing in these 2583 01:33:32,726 --> 01:33:33,327 requirements I mean the goal is 2584 01:33:33,327 --> 01:33:35,729 to like get the cannabis 2585 01:33:35,729 --> 01:33:36,563 industry out of here. 2586 01:33:36,563 --> 01:33:37,197 I mean it's just going to go 2587 01:33:37,197 --> 01:33:40,797 back to back to the black 2588 01:33:41,350 --> 01:33:41,736 market but it's going to put 2589 01:33:41,736 --> 01:33:42,369 dispensaries out of business. 2590 01:33:42,369 --> 01:33:43,700 So as you're talking about 2591 01:33:43,700 --> 01:33:46,700 deliveries here and there, you 2592 01:33:46,107 --> 01:33:46,807 know, reclassifying this again, 2593 01:33:46,807 --> 01:33:47,107 that's why it's like back and 2594 01:33:47,107 --> 01:33:47,875 forth. 2595 01:33:47,875 --> 01:33:50,845 I mean it's like a roller 2596 01:33:50,845 --> 01:33:51,779 coaster ride. 2597 01:33:51,779 --> 01:33:52,514 How do you keep up with that? 2598 01:33:52,514 --> 01:33:53,214 But you should think about that 2599 01:33:53,214 --> 01:33:55,614 as you're bringing in 2600 01:33:55,683 --> 01:33:56,284 enforcement and going back to 2601 01:33:56,284 --> 01:33:58,684 Andrea Ebbing it's very 2602 01:34:00,540 --> 01:34:00,722 concerning to know that they 2603 01:34:00,722 --> 01:34:03,122 have deemed her incompetent 2604 01:34:05,260 --> 01:34:05,760 because she's not incompetent 2605 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,160 and a psychological evaluation 2606 01:34:10,298 --> 01:34:10,965 The evaluator said she was 2607 01:34:10,965 --> 01:34:11,666 competent and then somebody 2608 01:34:11,666 --> 01:34:12,299 from the county like a social 2609 01:34:12,299 --> 01:34:15,360 worker came in and started 2610 01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:15,770 asking her political questions. 2611 01:34:15,770 --> 01:34:19,370 And so if regardless of that, 2612 01:34:19,841 --> 01:34:20,709 the judge has the deciding 2613 01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:23,709 factor in a pc 1368 So 2614 01:34:24,679 --> 01:34:25,379 the problem is is that this is 2615 01:34:25,379 --> 01:34:26,470 going to stall the proceedings 2616 01:34:26,470 --> 01:34:29,470 and she could potentially go 2617 01:34:29,484 --> 01:34:30,351 into a mental facility and be 2618 01:34:30,351 --> 01:34:31,119 drugged up And this is a way to 2619 01:34:31,119 --> 01:34:34,119 silence people and it's just 2620 01:34:34,989 --> 01:34:35,689 really sad to know that she has 2621 01:34:35,689 --> 01:34:38,689 been fighting for her children 2622 01:34:38,993 --> 01:34:39,694 fighting to report crimes that 2623 01:34:39,694 --> 01:34:40,327 have happened against her and 2624 01:34:40,327 --> 01:34:40,995 this is what takes place. 2625 01:34:40,995 --> 01:34:43,995 And her attorney prior to 2626 01:34:44,232 --> 01:34:44,899 saying that she was incompetent 2627 01:34:44,899 --> 01:34:48,499 like a few weeks prior had 2628 01:34:49,337 --> 01:34:49,904 filed a dismissal of charges 2629 01:34:49,904 --> 01:34:50,271 because the arrest was 2630 01:34:50,271 --> 01:34:52,271 unlawful. 2631 01:34:53,341 --> 01:34:54,142 So there is a huge problem here 2632 01:34:54,142 --> 01:34:54,676 that they have now deemed her 2633 01:34:54,676 --> 01:34:55,243 incompetent when all 2634 01:34:55,243 --> 01:34:57,643 the charges could be. 2635 01:34:58,980 --> 01:34:59,280 >> That does conclude your time 2636 01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:00,247 . 2637 01:35:00,247 --> 01:35:03,847 Next up is Lay brother Stephen 2638 01:35:04,486 --> 01:35:04,987 g. 2639 01:35:04,987 --> 01:35:05,754 Said love. 2640 01:35:05,754 --> 01:35:06,254 Please come forward to 2641 01:35:06,254 --> 01:35:08,254 the microphone. 2642 01:35:11,326 --> 01:35:11,993 You'll have two minutes. 2643 01:35:11,993 --> 01:35:13,795 I understand you have some 2644 01:35:13,795 --> 01:35:17,395 media you'd like to project if 2645 01:35:23,304 --> 01:35:25,304 possible. 2646 01:35:28,476 --> 01:35:29,177 Good afternoon San Diego City 2647 01:35:29,177 --> 01:35:29,878 Council and Citizens I am Lee 2648 01:35:29,878 --> 01:35:32,278 Brother Steven Gerrard should 2649 01:35:34,150 --> 01:35:34,682 love ski I'd like to open up 2650 01:35:34,682 --> 01:35:35,317 with holy Scripture because 2651 01:35:35,317 --> 01:35:38,587 that's a good thing to do. 2652 01:35:38,587 --> 01:35:41,889 I think And I'm going to open 2653 01:35:41,889 --> 01:35:46,890 up to Proverbs ten in honor of 2654 01:35:46,727 --> 01:35:47,429 we've just celebrated Father's 2655 01:35:47,429 --> 01:35:48,163 Day Mother's Day, the Father's 2656 01:35:48,163 --> 01:35:51,763 Day time frame, the proverbs of 2657 01:35:52,367 --> 01:35:53,680 Solomon a wise son make of 2658 01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:53,768 the glad father but a foolish 2659 01:35:53,768 --> 01:35:56,972 son is the heaviness of his 2660 01:35:56,972 --> 01:35:59,372 mother treasures of wickedness, 2661 01:36:01,777 --> 01:36:02,444 profit nothing but 2662 01:36:02,444 --> 01:36:02,744 righteousness delivers from 2663 01:36:02,744 --> 01:36:04,744 death. 2664 01:36:07,150 --> 01:36:07,682 The Lord will not suffer 2665 01:36:07,682 --> 01:36:10,682 the soul of the righteous 2666 01:36:11,152 --> 01:36:11,819 the famished But he cast away 2667 01:36:11,819 --> 01:36:14,819 the substance of the wicked. 2668 01:36:15,690 --> 01:36:16,592 He become a poor that delyth 2669 01:36:16,592 --> 01:36:20,792 with a slack hand but the hand 2670 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:21,797 of the diligent make it through 2671 01:36:21,797 --> 01:36:25,397 rich he that gather it And 2672 01:36:26,134 --> 01:36:27,102 summer is a wise son but he 2673 01:36:27,102 --> 01:36:30,605 that sleep in harvest is a son 2674 01:36:30,605 --> 01:36:31,240 that cause of the shame and 2675 01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,640 finally blessings are upon 2676 01:36:35,177 --> 01:36:35,878 the head of the just but 2677 01:36:35,878 --> 01:36:38,878 violence covers the mouth of 2678 01:36:40,115 --> 01:36:40,782 the wicked to I delivered all 2679 01:36:40,782 --> 01:36:43,782 of you a wonderful Bible 2680 01:36:45,530 --> 01:36:45,754 bookmark I travel the country 2681 01:36:45,754 --> 01:36:49,158 and I have spoken at Standing 2682 01:36:49,158 --> 01:36:49,825 Eagle in the past amplifying 2683 01:36:49,825 --> 01:36:52,225 new usa preborn personhood 2684 01:36:53,896 --> 01:36:54,496 cities since I am a pro-life 2685 01:36:54,496 --> 01:36:57,496 speaker What I wanted to 2686 01:36:58,734 --> 01:36:59,434 display before you is that I 2687 01:36:59,434 --> 01:37:00,135 attended the California MARCH 2688 01:37:00,135 --> 01:37:04,600 for Life on MARCH 16th of this 2689 01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:04,673 year in Sacramento and 2690 01:37:04,673 --> 01:37:07,673 the document up there shows 2691 01:37:08,877 --> 01:37:09,545 that about 4000 citizen sons 2692 01:37:09,545 --> 01:37:11,945 attended the wonderful MARCH 2693 01:37:12,982 --> 01:37:13,649 for For Life because we are 2694 01:37:13,649 --> 01:37:13,949 marching for the sanctity of 2695 01:37:13,949 --> 01:37:15,949 life. 2696 01:37:17,652 --> 01:37:18,420 We all here in council chambers 2697 01:37:18,420 --> 01:37:18,988 started off our journey of life 2698 01:37:18,988 --> 01:37:20,988 in our mother's. 2699 01:37:22,991 --> 01:37:23,425 Fatherhood starts in 2700 01:37:23,425 --> 01:37:23,960 the mother's. 2701 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:24,393 Motherhood starts in 2702 01:37:24,393 --> 01:37:26,393 the mother's. 2703 01:37:28,930 --> 01:37:29,298 Childhood starts in the mother. 2704 01:37:29,298 --> 01:37:29,999 Thank you. 2705 01:37:29,999 --> 01:37:30,732 That does conclude your time. 2706 01:37:30,732 --> 01:37:32,902 Thank you And I'll continue to 2707 01:37:32,902 --> 01:37:33,569 update you on the new 2708 01:37:33,569 --> 01:37:33,936 possibilities opportunities. 2709 01:37:33,936 --> 01:37:35,936 Thank you. 2710 01:37:37,706 --> 01:37:38,700 Next speaker is Bob Kozinski My 2711 01:37:38,700 --> 01:37:40,700 video. 2712 01:37:51,220 --> 01:37:51,754 Okay we'll bring the video up 2713 01:37:51,754 --> 01:37:52,688 Bob Kozinski here. 2714 01:37:52,688 --> 01:37:53,389 >> a week ago today I was hang 2715 01:37:53,389 --> 01:37:55,789 gliding at Dockweiler State 2716 01:37:56,692 --> 01:37:57,392 Beach in Los Angeles under 2717 01:37:57,392 --> 01:38:00,332 the Dockweiler waiver that has 2718 01:38:00,332 --> 01:38:00,996 been in place since 2017 2719 01:38:00,996 --> 01:38:01,730 the public has been able to 2720 01:38:01,730 --> 01:38:04,730 hang glider at Dockweiler Beach 2721 01:38:04,933 --> 01:38:05,601 for nearly ten years under that 2722 01:38:05,601 --> 01:38:08,601 waiver a decade ago however, 2723 01:38:09,672 --> 01:38:10,372 hang gliding at Dockweiler was 2724 01:38:10,372 --> 01:38:11,600 not allowed by the county of 2725 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:11,407 Los Angeles without use by 2726 01:38:11,407 --> 01:38:13,407 membership. 2727 01:38:14,477 --> 01:38:15,177 Fortunately that all changed 2728 01:38:15,177 --> 01:38:16,440 due to a sequence of events 2729 01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:19,181 that started right here in San 2730 01:38:19,181 --> 01:38:19,915 Diego On JULY 24th, 2011. 2731 01:38:19,915 --> 01:38:22,915 A female student named Shannon 2732 01:38:24,253 --> 01:38:24,853 Hamby was taking lessons at 2733 01:38:24,853 --> 01:38:25,321 Tori through the city's 2734 01:38:25,321 --> 01:38:26,550 concessionaire. 2735 01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:29,250 She was under radio supervision 2736 01:38:29,250 --> 01:38:29,625 when she was flown directly 2737 01:38:29,625 --> 01:38:29,959 into the path of another 2738 01:38:29,959 --> 01:38:30,593 student. 2739 01:38:30,593 --> 01:38:33,593 She crashed and was badly 2740 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:34,897 injured. 2741 01:38:34,897 --> 01:38:35,598 I was contacted by Shannon's 2742 01:38:35,598 --> 01:38:38,867 lawyer and asked to testify as 2743 01:38:38,867 --> 01:38:39,602 an expert witness and I did. 2744 01:38:39,602 --> 01:38:42,602 My testimony in SEPTEMBER of 2745 01:38:43,206 --> 01:38:43,873 2014 was solid and the case was 2746 01:38:43,873 --> 01:38:44,473 quickly settled in Shannon's 2747 01:38:44,473 --> 01:38:44,807 favor for an undisclosed 2748 01:38:44,807 --> 01:38:46,807 amount. 2749 01:38:48,177 --> 01:38:48,878 Uber ended up losing their 2750 01:38:48,878 --> 01:38:49,211 insurance coverage by November 2751 01:38:49,211 --> 01:38:51,211 of 2014. 2752 01:38:53,416 --> 01:38:54,160 I was retaliated against by 2753 01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:54,617 your concessionaire who 2754 01:38:54,617 --> 01:38:57,170 conspired with you spend 2755 01:38:57,286 --> 01:38:58,200 the spring of 2015 to have me 2756 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,200 expelled for my testimony which 2757 01:39:02,250 --> 01:39:02,725 ended my ability to fly at all 2758 01:39:02,725 --> 01:39:03,292 use for sites including Torrey 2759 01:39:03,292 --> 01:39:05,292 Pines and Dockweiler. 2760 01:39:06,996 --> 01:39:07,797 In early 2017 we met with newly 2761 01:39:07,797 --> 01:39:10,797 elected Barbara Bree for help 2762 01:39:11,401 --> 01:39:12,134 Barbara Bree suggested a flight 2763 01:39:12,134 --> 01:39:15,734 waiver to solve the problem but 2764 01:39:15,938 --> 01:39:16,706 she never followed through. 2765 01:39:16,706 --> 01:39:17,473 Joel Foulston I also spoke to 2766 01:39:17,473 --> 01:39:20,443 the Los Angeles County Board of 2767 01:39:20,443 --> 01:39:21,144 Supervisors While Barbara Bree 2768 01:39:21,144 --> 01:39:24,744 did nothing here in San Diego, 2769 01:39:25,181 --> 01:39:25,847 Los Angeles Supervisor Janice 2770 01:39:25,847 --> 01:39:26,382 Hahn stepped up and actually 2771 01:39:26,382 --> 01:39:28,382 instituted a waiver. 2772 01:39:30,190 --> 01:39:30,753 The first Dockweiler waivers 2773 01:39:30,753 --> 01:39:34,223 were issued to Joe Foust, Frank 2774 01:39:34,223 --> 01:39:34,924 Culver and myself on JULY 26th, 2775 01:39:34,924 --> 01:39:37,924 2017 and we have flown under 2776 01:39:39,529 --> 01:39:39,829 those waivers without incident 2777 01:39:39,829 --> 01:39:40,463 . 2778 01:39:40,463 --> 01:39:41,164 Ever since Barbara Barrie 2779 01:39:41,164 --> 01:39:44,133 dodged the issue for the rest 2780 01:39:44,133 --> 01:39:44,733 of her term until her failed 2781 01:39:44,733 --> 01:39:45,401 mayoral bid in 2020. 2782 01:39:45,401 --> 01:39:48,401 Joe LaCava has followed her 2783 01:39:49,371 --> 01:39:50,390 lead throughout his entire term 2784 01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:50,707 reactivate the Torrey Pines 2785 01:39:50,707 --> 01:39:53,707 City Park Advisory Board and 2786 01:39:54,810 --> 01:39:55,210 institute a Torrey Pines flight 2787 01:39:55,210 --> 01:39:55,711 waiver now. 2788 01:39:55,711 --> 01:39:57,680 >> Thank you, Tom. 2789 01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,680 Thank you. 2790 01:40:07,157 --> 01:40:10,157 Next speaker is Anthony Ralphs 2791 01:40:12,362 --> 01:40:13,290 Good. 2792 01:40:13,290 --> 01:40:13,697 Good afternoon City Council. 2793 01:40:13,697 --> 01:40:16,970 Good afternoon City Council. 2794 01:40:17,367 --> 01:40:18,680 I'm sure you're probably 2795 01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:18,334 wondering what the flowers are 2796 01:40:18,334 --> 01:40:19,690 for. 2797 01:40:19,690 --> 01:40:22,338 The flowers are from Dee Flock, 2798 01:40:22,338 --> 01:40:23,720 San Diego and they are to all 2799 01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:23,807 of our city council members who 2800 01:40:23,807 --> 01:40:26,807 voted against Flock and who 2801 01:40:27,910 --> 01:40:28,378 respect their constituencies 2802 01:40:28,378 --> 01:40:28,978 privacy rights. 2803 01:40:28,978 --> 01:40:31,848 And I actually got some. 2804 01:40:31,848 --> 01:40:32,381 I tried to find some blue 2805 01:40:32,381 --> 01:40:32,949 irises since they're 2806 01:40:32,949 --> 01:40:33,316 the official flower of 2807 01:40:33,316 --> 01:40:35,316 the city. 2808 01:40:36,553 --> 01:40:37,187 I wasn't able to find any But I 2809 01:40:37,187 --> 01:40:37,921 did get these irises that 2810 01:40:37,921 --> 01:40:40,921 really resemble the blue irises 2811 01:40:41,925 --> 01:40:42,259 And I think that they're really 2812 01:40:42,259 --> 01:40:42,992 pretty. 2813 01:40:42,992 --> 01:40:46,296 I wanted to give these two are 2814 01:40:46,296 --> 01:40:46,930 independent budget analysts to 2815 01:40:46,930 --> 01:40:49,330 Charles Modica because he 2816 01:40:51,234 --> 01:40:51,935 advised the city council to cut 2817 01:40:51,935 --> 01:40:52,402 flock from the mayor's budget. 2818 01:40:52,402 --> 01:40:54,402 And because he's 2819 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:56,706 the independent budget analyst, 2820 01:40:56,706 --> 01:40:57,373 we should be listening to him. 2821 01:40:57,373 --> 01:40:59,773 We should be respecting 2822 01:41:00,610 --> 01:41:01,277 the financial input that he 2823 01:41:01,277 --> 01:41:01,945 gives our city and the fact 2824 01:41:01,945 --> 01:41:02,646 that we are not and the fact 2825 01:41:02,646 --> 01:41:05,646 that we are disrespecting our 2826 01:41:05,782 --> 01:41:06,483 constituent his privacy and 2827 01:41:06,483 --> 01:41:09,886 that we are giving an already 2828 01:41:09,886 --> 01:41:10,554 overbloated police budget even 2829 01:41:10,554 --> 01:41:11,254 more money and even more 2830 01:41:11,254 --> 01:41:11,854 surveillance technology to use 2831 01:41:11,854 --> 01:41:14,254 against us is extremely 2832 01:41:15,258 --> 01:41:16,126 concerning. 2833 01:41:16,126 --> 01:41:20,630 In this last week I saw a 2834 01:41:20,630 --> 01:41:20,864 report that was detailing 17 2835 01:41:20,864 --> 01:41:23,864 cases of police stalking their 2836 01:41:25,402 --> 01:41:25,968 former ex-girlfriends using 2837 01:41:25,968 --> 01:41:28,368 Floc a lpr technology. 2838 01:41:30,507 --> 01:41:31,241 Just yesterday there was a 2839 01:41:31,241 --> 01:41:34,841 shooting and it was not stopped 2840 01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:36,146 due to Floc a lpr technology. 2841 01:41:36,146 --> 01:41:36,813 That's the second time that 2842 01:41:36,813 --> 01:41:37,114 Floc has failed in the last 2843 01:41:37,114 --> 01:41:39,114 month. 2844 01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:40,650 If I were to fail at my job 2845 01:41:40,650 --> 01:41:43,500 like that in significant 2846 01:41:44,521 --> 01:41:45,189 instances where I was expected 2847 01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:45,888 to give a performance and I 2848 01:41:45,888 --> 01:41:48,888 didn't deliver I would be 2849 01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:50,527 immediately fired. 2850 01:41:50,527 --> 01:41:54,127 I don't understand why as dpd 2851 01:41:54,498 --> 01:41:55,199 continues to be shown 2852 01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:55,832 the leniency that they've been 2853 01:41:55,832 --> 01:41:56,533 shown and I'm not sure how 2854 01:41:56,533 --> 01:41:59,533 we're going to hold them 2855 01:41:59,837 --> 01:42:00,570 accountable when we have $42 2856 01:42:00,570 --> 01:42:03,570 million in the public liability 2857 01:42:04,974 --> 01:42:05,642 fund that they've blown through 2858 01:42:05,642 --> 01:42:09,242 and all of the lawsuits that 2859 01:42:10,140 --> 01:42:10,581 they've cost the city and we're 2860 01:42:10,581 --> 01:42:11,281 not done paying those. 2861 01:42:11,281 --> 01:42:11,949 I would like to see this 2862 01:42:11,949 --> 01:42:14,349 council focus on police 2863 01:42:14,885 --> 01:42:15,486 accountability. 2864 01:42:15,486 --> 01:42:16,153 >> Thank you. 2865 01:42:16,153 --> 01:42:16,820 That does conclude your time 2866 01:42:16,820 --> 01:42:19,356 And our city clerk staff can 2867 01:42:19,356 --> 01:42:20,230 help distribute the flowers. 2868 01:42:20,230 --> 01:42:20,490 That does conclude in-person 2869 01:42:20,490 --> 01:42:22,490 public comment. 2870 01:42:24,762 --> 01:42:25,620 I've started the five minute 2871 01:42:25,620 --> 01:42:25,762 timer. 2872 01:42:25,762 --> 01:42:29,362 In the committee room we will 2873 01:42:29,366 --> 01:42:30,660 now turn to the virtual queue 2874 01:42:30,660 --> 01:42:30,768 in which there are currently 2875 01:42:30,768 --> 01:42:33,168 ten participants requesting to 2876 01:42:35,500 --> 01:42:35,772 speak. 2877 01:42:35,772 --> 01:42:36,106 We will go first to Blair 2878 01:42:36,106 --> 01:42:38,106 Beekman. 2879 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:39,476 Please begin your comments. 2880 01:42:39,476 --> 01:42:41,476 All right. 2881 01:42:44,748 --> 01:42:45,182 Thank you First for me to go 2882 01:42:45,182 --> 01:42:47,182 first myself. 2883 01:42:47,785 --> 01:42:48,552 But first as I am also really 2884 01:42:48,552 --> 01:42:52,152 trying I think we can address 2885 01:42:53,123 --> 01:42:53,858 our issues in new ways. 2886 01:42:53,858 --> 01:42:56,793 I'm hoping that there is simply 2887 01:42:56,793 --> 01:42:57,361 a can I feel there's 2888 01:42:57,361 --> 01:42:58,940 the continuing growing 2889 01:42:58,940 --> 01:42:58,695 political will in the past year 2890 01:42:58,695 --> 01:43:01,695 in San Diego and across 2891 01:43:02,366 --> 01:43:03,000 the country to no longer do 2892 01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:03,734 business with Fox as block 2893 01:43:03,734 --> 01:43:06,734 maybe developing its ideas its 2894 01:43:06,970 --> 01:43:07,571 data within the context of 2895 01:43:07,571 --> 01:43:07,938 supporting international 2896 01:43:07,938 --> 01:43:08,672 policies. 2897 01:43:08,672 --> 01:43:12,272 The work I have been describing 2898 01:43:12,343 --> 01:43:13,430 for months now How about 2899 01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:13,744 the city of Oakland County of 2900 01:43:13,744 --> 01:43:16,744 Alameda are creating a process 2901 01:43:17,214 --> 01:43:17,948 of full community input best 2902 01:43:17,948 --> 01:43:21,548 practices to leapfrog for a new 2903 01:43:21,986 --> 01:43:22,753 better principles approach 2904 01:43:22,753 --> 01:43:23,621 under this is simply a good 2905 01:43:23,621 --> 01:43:27,821 model San Diego can refer to at 2906 01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:31,759 this time a good beginning one 2907 01:43:36,433 --> 01:43:36,967 I simply should be continuing 2908 01:43:36,967 --> 01:43:37,602 community dialog and 2909 01:43:37,602 --> 01:43:38,903 conversations now formerly 2910 01:43:38,903 --> 01:43:39,569 leader Carpenter Fox and to 2911 01:43:39,569 --> 01:43:42,569 look for a better principal 2912 01:43:42,606 --> 01:43:43,307 vendor or do we simply give up 2913 01:43:43,307 --> 01:43:43,875 the vendor process altogether 2914 01:43:43,875 --> 01:43:46,875 and work out new data 2915 01:43:48,412 --> 01:43:49,213 collection arrangements 2916 01:43:49,213 --> 01:43:49,914 securely So owners of new San 2917 01:43:49,914 --> 01:43:53,514 Diego ale yards at the same 2918 01:43:55,452 --> 01:43:56,153 time San Diego we can be 2919 01:43:56,153 --> 01:43:56,721 working towards something of a 2920 01:43:56,721 --> 01:43:58,721 yearly review process. 2921 01:44:00,525 --> 01:44:01,292 I feel that can be important 2922 01:44:01,292 --> 01:44:02,590 also at this time and how to 2923 01:44:02,590 --> 01:44:05,590 create a small reduction of 2924 01:44:05,563 --> 01:44:06,230 unnecessary or redundant 2925 01:44:06,230 --> 01:44:06,764 surveillance technology used 2926 01:44:06,764 --> 01:44:09,164 from local San Diego 2927 01:44:10,670 --> 01:44:10,768 neighborhoods And at the same 2928 01:44:10,768 --> 01:44:11,536 same time this will not take 2929 01:44:11,536 --> 01:44:14,239 much away from the current use 2930 01:44:14,239 --> 01:44:14,939 of surveillance technology 2931 01:44:14,939 --> 01:44:17,339 within San Diego neighborhood 2932 01:44:19,143 --> 01:44:19,811 Public safety concerns. 2933 01:44:19,811 --> 01:44:20,378 I'm also hoping this can 2934 01:44:20,378 --> 01:44:21,112 develop a consistent, 2935 01:44:21,112 --> 01:44:23,512 responsible yearly reduction of 2936 01:44:24,248 --> 01:44:24,882 unnecessary unnecessary 2937 01:44:24,882 --> 01:44:27,282 surveillance tech while at 2938 01:44:29,453 --> 01:44:30,120 the same time developing better 2939 01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:30,822 principled, more responsible 2940 01:44:30,822 --> 01:44:33,822 community tech use with clear 2941 01:44:34,525 --> 01:44:35,192 oversight. 2942 01:44:35,192 --> 01:44:35,827 I think it can work. 2943 01:44:35,827 --> 01:44:38,227 Monica Montgomery Step two 2944 01:44:39,464 --> 01:44:39,797 years ago Gail yours would be 2945 01:44:39,797 --> 01:44:40,531 reduced. 2946 01:44:40,531 --> 01:44:44,731 That was that was on her mind 2947 01:44:44,869 --> 01:44:45,670 with new APIs and good luck we 2948 01:44:45,670 --> 01:44:46,370 can talk more about your use of 2949 01:44:46,370 --> 01:44:48,770 these accounts conclude your 2950 01:44:49,106 --> 01:44:49,440 time Next speaker is Terry and 2951 01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:51,440 Skelly. 2952 01:44:52,977 --> 01:44:54,977 Please begin. 2953 01:44:58,716 --> 01:44:59,417 Good afternoon San Diego City 2954 01:44:59,417 --> 01:45:00,117 Council Chair McCarver My name 2955 01:45:00,117 --> 01:45:03,530 is Terry and Skelly and I work 2956 01:45:03,530 --> 01:45:03,654 with my planning group on good 2957 01:45:03,654 --> 01:45:04,388 public health and safety 2958 01:45:04,388 --> 01:45:07,388 policies in land use decisions. 2959 01:45:08,393 --> 01:45:09,930 I spoke yesterday and support 2960 01:45:09,930 --> 01:45:09,761 for item 2 or 2 regarding 2961 01:45:09,761 --> 01:45:11,761 creating more comprehensive 2962 01:45:12,530 --> 01:45:12,830 policies regarding popular 2963 01:45:12,830 --> 01:45:13,531 rates. 2964 01:45:13,531 --> 01:45:16,531 I truly appreciate the city's 2965 01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:17,702 efforts to know who is selling 2966 01:45:17,702 --> 01:45:18,570 pot in our cities and where 2967 01:45:18,570 --> 01:45:22,273 the pot is coming from since it 2968 01:45:22,273 --> 01:45:22,907 doesn't seem to have a physical 2969 01:45:22,907 --> 01:45:25,307 location within the city. 2970 01:45:26,311 --> 01:45:27,100 I was concerned that there were 2971 01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:27,679 those yesterday He wanted to 2972 01:45:27,679 --> 01:45:30,679 have a permit from other 2973 01:45:31,182 --> 01:45:31,883 another jurisdiction and then 2974 01:45:31,883 --> 01:45:32,584 wanted to deliver in San Diego 2975 01:45:32,584 --> 01:45:36,184 but did not want to register 2976 01:45:36,354 --> 01:45:36,654 for a permit to deliver in San 2977 01:45:36,654 --> 01:45:37,322 Diego. 2978 01:45:37,322 --> 01:45:40,322 That was a scary declaration 2979 01:45:41,126 --> 01:45:41,792 and made me wonder about all 2980 01:45:41,792 --> 01:45:42,493 those pot entrepreneurs who 2981 01:45:42,493 --> 01:45:45,493 continuously tell us that they 2982 01:45:46,297 --> 01:45:46,630 are providing a necessary 2983 01:45:46,630 --> 01:45:47,298 service. 2984 01:45:47,298 --> 01:45:50,298 However, they don't want to 2985 01:45:50,769 --> 01:45:51,569 abide by the rules and register 2986 01:45:51,569 --> 01:45:55,340 in the city of San Diego to 2987 01:45:55,340 --> 01:45:56,410 deliver pot That makes 2988 01:45:56,410 --> 01:45:56,708 the public wonder if the real 2989 01:45:56,708 --> 01:45:59,708 motive behind selling pot is 2990 01:46:00,879 --> 01:46:01,580 just money which has always 2991 01:46:01,580 --> 01:46:01,880 been the motive behind selling 2992 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,880 drugs. 2993 01:46:05,616 --> 01:46:06,318 So I especially appreciate 2994 01:46:06,318 --> 01:46:07,180 the work of City Councilperson 2995 01:46:07,180 --> 01:46:10,180 Camille and staff for creating 2996 01:46:10,622 --> 01:46:11,289 a system of fines associated 2997 01:46:11,289 --> 01:46:11,690 with enforcement against pot 2998 01:46:11,690 --> 01:46:13,690 deliveries. 2999 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:16,461 Doing so illegally. 3000 01:46:16,461 --> 01:46:19,461 I also appreciate the larger 3001 01:46:20,599 --> 01:46:21,232 dialog regarding enforcement 3002 01:46:21,232 --> 01:46:21,767 commitments for the police 3003 01:46:21,767 --> 01:46:22,167 department and code 3004 01:46:22,167 --> 01:46:24,167 enforcement. 3005 01:46:25,303 --> 01:46:25,871 >> Thank you for hearing my 3006 01:46:25,871 --> 01:46:26,238 issues this morning or 3007 01:46:26,238 --> 01:46:28,238 afternoon. 3008 01:46:29,308 --> 01:46:30,750 Thank you. 3009 01:46:30,750 --> 01:46:30,408 Our next speaker is Barbara 3010 01:46:30,408 --> 01:46:32,408 Gordon. 3011 01:46:34,346 --> 01:46:34,812 Please begin. 3012 01:46:34,812 --> 01:46:36,812 >> Thank you. 3013 01:46:38,950 --> 01:46:39,551 As a public health educator I 3014 01:46:39,551 --> 01:46:40,850 wanted to share with you 3015 01:46:40,850 --> 01:46:42,850 the American Medical 3016 01:46:43,822 --> 01:46:44,389 Association's recently adopted 3017 01:46:44,389 --> 01:46:45,560 new policy calling for 3018 01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,456 the prohibition of flavored 3019 01:46:48,628 --> 01:46:49,293 cannabis vaping products in 3020 01:46:49,293 --> 01:46:51,293 cannabis dispensaries, hemp 3021 01:46:53,130 --> 01:46:53,765 product retailers and other 3022 01:46:53,765 --> 01:46:56,165 retail outlets while also 3023 01:46:58,700 --> 01:46:58,503 advocating for legislate 3024 01:46:58,503 --> 01:46:59,104 changes. 3025 01:46:59,104 --> 01:46:59,738 Their position reflects 3026 01:46:59,738 --> 01:47:01,738 the organization's growing 3027 01:47:03,608 --> 01:47:04,309 concern about public health 3028 01:47:04,309 --> 01:47:04,943 risks associated with flavored 3029 01:47:04,943 --> 01:47:07,343 vaping products and their 3030 01:47:08,780 --> 01:47:09,481 appeal to adolescents and young 3031 01:47:09,481 --> 01:47:12,481 adults, according to the ama. 3032 01:47:13,318 --> 01:47:13,919 Flavors such as fruit candy 3033 01:47:13,919 --> 01:47:16,319 menthol can make vaping 3034 01:47:17,589 --> 01:47:18,900 products more attractive to 3035 01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:18,757 youth, increasing 3036 01:47:18,757 --> 01:47:21,157 the likelihood of initiation 3037 01:47:22,294 --> 01:47:22,994 and long term substance use. 3038 01:47:22,994 --> 01:47:23,729 The new policy extends to 3039 01:47:23,729 --> 01:47:26,129 the ama's longstanding position 3040 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:28,600 reflect in a broader effort to 3041 01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:31,600 reduce youth exposure to an 3042 01:47:32,838 --> 01:47:33,238 inhaled psychoactive 3043 01:47:33,238 --> 01:47:33,906 substances. 3044 01:47:33,906 --> 01:47:37,506 The report says there is no 3045 01:47:37,509 --> 01:47:38,243 public health justification for 3046 01:47:38,243 --> 01:47:41,243 flavors that enhance the appeal 3047 01:47:42,548 --> 01:47:43,249 of cannabis based products 3048 01:47:43,249 --> 01:47:45,649 particularly when youth vaping 3049 01:47:47,485 --> 01:47:48,870 remains a significant concern. 3050 01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:50,487 Ama leaders leaders have 3051 01:47:52,124 --> 01:47:52,858 emphasized that protecting 3052 01:47:52,858 --> 01:47:53,559 young people from addiction and 3053 01:47:53,559 --> 01:47:55,959 potential health harms should 3054 01:47:57,463 --> 01:47:58,970 take precedence over 3055 01:47:58,970 --> 01:47:58,531 the commercialization and 3056 01:47:58,531 --> 01:47:58,964 availability. 3057 01:47:58,964 --> 01:48:00,964 >> Thank you. 3058 01:48:02,868 --> 01:48:05,868 That does conclude your time. 3059 01:48:06,710 --> 01:48:06,639 Our next speaker is caller with 3060 01:48:06,639 --> 01:48:08,639 last four digits 8700. 3061 01:48:10,775 --> 01:48:12,775 Please begin. 3062 01:48:16,315 --> 01:48:19,315 Thank you, Joyce And yet 3063 01:48:20,753 --> 01:48:21,554 the beautiful tapestry the lens 3064 01:48:21,554 --> 01:48:25,154 through which we look at and 3065 01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,920 see life here's my lens. 3066 01:48:30,663 --> 01:48:31,230 What if we are all pollinators 3067 01:48:31,230 --> 01:48:32,331 in city government? 3068 01:48:32,331 --> 01:48:36,101 After 20 years in my work as an 3069 01:48:36,101 --> 01:48:36,569 activist I see a common thread 3070 01:48:36,569 --> 01:48:38,569 through it all. 3071 01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:41,240 We are all working to see what 3072 01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,240 works best. 3073 01:48:45,770 --> 01:48:45,811 We now know that bees are 3074 01:48:45,811 --> 01:48:46,445 connected to a bigger picture 3075 01:48:46,445 --> 01:48:48,845 that includes a mysterious 3076 01:48:50,883 --> 01:48:51,784 miracle. 3077 01:48:51,784 --> 01:48:54,784 Yes, the mysterious miracle is 3078 01:48:55,554 --> 01:48:55,888 a bumpy yet something is 3079 01:48:55,888 --> 01:48:57,888 working. 3080 01:49:00,660 --> 01:49:01,260 We're still here. 3081 01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:03,660 Life is still here. 3082 01:49:05,865 --> 01:49:08,865 I woke up feeling different 3083 01:49:10,670 --> 01:49:13,670 this morning about cgt, about 3084 01:49:14,740 --> 01:49:15,374 public power, about fees, 3085 01:49:15,374 --> 01:49:17,774 parking fees, budget abuse 3086 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:21,514 parks, libraries, even floor 3087 01:49:21,514 --> 01:49:23,514 and so forth. 3088 01:49:25,510 --> 01:49:25,685 We are doing something that 3089 01:49:25,685 --> 01:49:26,619 the whole world is doing. 3090 01:49:26,619 --> 01:49:30,819 We are doing what we are meant 3091 01:49:31,570 --> 01:49:31,891 to do. 3092 01:49:31,891 --> 01:49:35,491 We are fulfilling our role as 3093 01:49:35,694 --> 01:49:36,290 pollinators of the great circle 3094 01:49:36,290 --> 01:49:38,290 of life. 3095 01:49:40,967 --> 01:49:41,734 In my opinion we are so lucky 3096 01:49:41,734 --> 01:49:45,934 We are just happened to be here 3097 01:49:46,500 --> 01:49:47,400 in San Diego. 3098 01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:47,407 We are just so lucky and we are 3099 01:49:47,407 --> 01:49:49,407 connected. 3100 01:49:52,450 --> 01:49:53,112 I believe in that. 3101 01:49:53,112 --> 01:49:57,183 i really do And I just I'm 3102 01:49:57,183 --> 01:49:57,817 getting stronger and stronger 3103 01:49:57,817 --> 01:49:58,284 about it through all these 3104 01:49:58,284 --> 01:50:00,284 difficult days. 3105 01:50:02,455 --> 01:50:02,989 It's all connected. 3106 01:50:02,989 --> 01:50:05,389 I believe in that. 3107 01:50:07,393 --> 01:50:07,861 So I hope you'll consider that 3108 01:50:07,861 --> 01:50:08,494 too. 3109 01:50:08,494 --> 01:50:09,950 And I'm sure you're there 3110 01:50:09,950 --> 01:50:09,796 already on many levels. 3111 01:50:09,796 --> 01:50:10,163 Maybe you're even the best of 3112 01:50:10,163 --> 01:50:12,163 the best. 3113 01:50:13,433 --> 01:50:13,766 Help us with our new vision if 3114 01:50:13,766 --> 01:50:14,768 you are. 3115 01:50:14,768 --> 01:50:18,805 So I believe in all of that and 3116 01:50:18,805 --> 01:50:19,171 I believe in the beautiful 3117 01:50:19,171 --> 01:50:19,705 tapestry. 3118 01:50:19,705 --> 01:50:22,105 Love to all beauty. 3119 01:50:23,242 --> 01:50:23,643 Great day. 3120 01:50:23,643 --> 01:50:24,277 Thank you. 3121 01:50:24,277 --> 01:50:27,277 Please know that the five 3122 01:50:27,347 --> 01:50:27,914 minute timer has concluded with 3123 01:50:27,914 --> 01:50:28,281 five speakers left in 3124 01:50:28,281 --> 01:50:29,150 the queue. 3125 01:50:29,150 --> 01:50:29,449 No other speakers will be taken 3126 01:50:29,449 --> 01:50:30,750 at this time. 3127 01:50:30,750 --> 01:50:33,750 Next up is John Elliott. 3128 01:50:36,455 --> 01:50:36,923 Please begin. 3129 01:50:36,923 --> 01:50:37,590 Good afternoon. 3130 01:50:37,590 --> 01:50:39,990 Thank you, Council members. 3131 01:50:41,761 --> 01:50:42,429 Thank you Johnny Lowe for 3132 01:50:42,429 --> 01:50:43,129 discussing lived experience. 3133 01:50:43,129 --> 01:50:46,129 The lived experience that was 3134 01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:47,734 mentioned is not what we would 3135 01:50:47,734 --> 01:50:48,368 define as lived experience 3136 01:50:48,368 --> 01:50:51,368 which is somebody who has 3137 01:50:51,504 --> 01:50:52,305 experienced homelessness within 3138 01:50:52,305 --> 01:50:52,872 the last 5 to 10 years and is 3139 01:50:52,872 --> 01:50:54,872 intimately involved in 3140 01:50:56,476 --> 01:50:56,843 the homeless space as an 3141 01:50:56,843 --> 01:50:57,576 advocate. 3142 01:50:57,576 --> 01:51:01,176 I don't think that anybody here 3143 01:51:02,181 --> 01:51:02,749 should consider experiencing 3144 01:51:02,749 --> 01:51:03,450 somebody who MAY have 3145 01:51:03,450 --> 01:51:05,450 experienced homelessness ten, 3146 01:51:07,153 --> 01:51:07,887 15, 20 years ago not even in 3147 01:51:07,887 --> 01:51:11,487 the region iPad or here because 3148 01:51:12,258 --> 01:51:13,920 things are different now. 3149 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:13,393 I also want to talk about Neil 3150 01:51:13,393 --> 01:51:15,393 Goode. 3151 01:51:17,731 --> 01:51:18,532 So it was not clear to any of 3152 01:51:18,532 --> 01:51:19,232 us that when you voted to cut 3153 01:51:19,232 --> 01:51:22,832 the funding for Neil Good that 3154 01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:23,670 there would not be an option to 3155 01:51:23,670 --> 01:51:24,270 do fundraising and maintain 3156 01:51:24,270 --> 01:51:26,670 the operations and that 3157 01:51:28,275 --> 01:51:28,809 the permit was being pulled at 3158 01:51:28,809 --> 01:51:29,509 the end of the year. 3159 01:51:29,509 --> 01:51:29,910 If that is the case that is 3160 01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:31,910 outrageous. 3161 01:51:33,847 --> 01:51:34,548 That means we traded critically 3162 01:51:34,548 --> 01:51:37,548 needed resources for our most 3163 01:51:39,119 --> 01:51:39,686 suffering people to fund floc 3164 01:51:39,686 --> 01:51:40,120 and that is completely 3165 01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:42,120 unacceptable. 3166 01:51:44,457 --> 01:51:45,920 It was never made clear in any 3167 01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:45,826 of your deliberations that 3168 01:51:45,826 --> 01:51:48,826 the funding you were committing 3169 01:51:50,163 --> 01:51:50,897 or committing was tied to a 3170 01:51:50,897 --> 01:51:53,297 permanent closure by revocation 3171 01:51:56,903 --> 01:51:57,537 of permit and no one including 3172 01:51:57,537 --> 01:51:58,204 everybody in the community 3173 01:51:58,204 --> 01:51:58,772 community Body Alliance was 3174 01:51:58,772 --> 01:52:00,473 aware of that either. 3175 01:52:00,473 --> 01:52:01,241 We would have addressed it 3176 01:52:01,241 --> 01:52:04,241 differently when it comes to 3177 01:52:06,613 --> 01:52:07,480 that issue. 3178 01:52:07,480 --> 01:52:08,114 We need to be revisiting why 3179 01:52:08,114 --> 01:52:10,514 exactly we are terminating 3180 01:52:12,119 --> 01:52:12,719 the permit when there is an 3181 01:52:12,719 --> 01:52:13,320 option and people are 3182 01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:13,987 interested to fundraise 3183 01:52:13,987 --> 01:52:16,987 the necessary funds to keep 3184 01:52:18,292 --> 01:52:21,292 the facility open as is. 3185 01:52:24,197 --> 01:52:24,897 And then finally it has come to 3186 01:52:24,897 --> 01:52:28,497 our attention that if you do 3187 01:52:29,236 --> 01:52:30,300 not have a solution for your 3188 01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:30,704 fee voucher by the end of 3189 01:52:30,704 --> 01:52:34,904 the year that you are going to 3190 01:52:35,242 --> 01:52:36,900 be dropped have no priority and 3191 01:52:36,900 --> 01:52:36,710 and be on your own finding 3192 01:52:36,710 --> 01:52:37,344 housing And that too is not 3193 01:52:37,344 --> 01:52:39,344 acceptable especially when 3194 01:52:43,617 --> 01:52:44,284 the county failed all theirs. 3195 01:52:44,284 --> 01:52:44,585 >> That does conclude your 3196 01:52:44,585 --> 01:52:45,252 time. 3197 01:52:45,252 --> 01:52:45,586 Our next speaker is Natalie 3198 01:52:45,586 --> 01:52:47,586 Maskey. 3199 01:52:50,424 --> 01:52:50,824 Please begin. 3200 01:52:50,824 --> 01:52:51,658 Hi. 3201 01:52:51,658 --> 01:52:52,459 i just want to give you an 3202 01:52:52,459 --> 01:52:55,963 update on the letter that I 3203 01:52:55,963 --> 01:52:57,970 received. 3204 01:52:57,970 --> 01:52:57,497 I was on a phone call and I got 3205 01:52:57,497 --> 01:52:59,497 interrupted. 3206 01:53:02,236 --> 01:53:02,869 It basically states for word 3207 01:53:02,869 --> 01:53:03,571 for word that when the San 3208 01:53:03,571 --> 01:53:05,971 Diego Housing Commission stops 3209 01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:08,709 paying the rent subsidy you 3210 01:53:08,709 --> 01:53:09,109 will no longer be an chc 3211 01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:09,910 participant. 3212 01:53:09,910 --> 01:53:13,510 You will not need to do 3213 01:53:13,681 --> 01:53:14,381 anything and you will no longer 3214 01:53:14,381 --> 01:53:17,981 be a part of this program. 3215 01:53:20,290 --> 01:53:21,550 I was informed that I would be 3216 01:53:21,550 --> 01:53:21,755 on a waiting list for a project 3217 01:53:21,755 --> 01:53:24,755 based voucher so it's unclear 3218 01:53:25,892 --> 01:53:26,260 to me if that would still be 3219 01:53:26,260 --> 01:53:26,994 the case. 3220 01:53:26,994 --> 01:53:31,194 I have tried contacting I am in 3221 01:53:32,332 --> 01:53:32,833 contact with Legal Aid which it 3222 01:53:32,833 --> 01:53:35,233 tells me to do. 3223 01:53:38,105 --> 01:53:38,872 There's urgency it seems with 3224 01:53:38,872 --> 01:53:41,872 any of these entities surging 3225 01:53:43,811 --> 01:53:44,278 up It still has not seemed to 3226 01:53:44,278 --> 01:53:45,120 get back to me. 3227 01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,120 I have contacted every single 3228 01:53:50,251 --> 01:53:50,952 entity that I can to put me in 3229 01:53:50,952 --> 01:53:54,552 front of somebody that I can 3230 01:53:56,123 --> 01:53:56,857 relate to How wrong this is. 3231 01:53:56,857 --> 01:53:58,857 It's extremely overwhelming 3232 01:54:02,363 --> 01:54:03,300 going to these websites When I 3233 01:54:03,300 --> 01:54:03,664 spoke last week or the week 3234 01:54:03,664 --> 01:54:06,664 before a willing and able 3235 01:54:08,469 --> 01:54:09,203 bodied person that has 3236 01:54:09,203 --> 01:54:09,937 the ability to do certain tasks 3237 01:54:09,937 --> 01:54:13,537 that is having a really hard 3238 01:54:14,275 --> 01:54:14,842 time completing tasks when 3239 01:54:14,842 --> 01:54:15,510 the other parties are 3240 01:54:15,510 --> 01:54:17,910 participating back or there 3241 01:54:20,481 --> 01:54:21,480 doesn't seem to be an urgency 3242 01:54:21,480 --> 01:54:21,949 in what's happening. 3243 01:54:21,949 --> 01:54:25,352 I'll give you an estimation on 3244 01:54:25,352 --> 01:54:26,120 what NOVEMBER 30th will look 3245 01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:29,120 like if nobody else gets 3246 01:54:31,225 --> 01:54:31,592 housing there will be over 1600 3247 01:54:31,592 --> 01:54:32,293 people. 3248 01:54:32,293 --> 01:54:35,893 A lot of them with children 3249 01:54:37,465 --> 01:54:37,755 that will be unhoused on that 3250 01:54:37,755 --> 01:54:39,755 day. 3251 01:54:42,771 --> 01:54:43,438 That is overwhelming to me just 3252 01:54:43,438 --> 01:54:44,720 to even think about and with 3253 01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:45,873 the cuts, where are these 3254 01:54:45,873 --> 01:54:48,273 people going to go? 3255 01:54:52,145 --> 01:54:52,547 Thank you. 3256 01:54:52,547 --> 01:54:53,214 Thank you. 3257 01:54:53,214 --> 01:54:56,214 Next up is Judy Strang. 3258 01:54:58,385 --> 01:54:58,920 Please begin. 3259 01:54:58,920 --> 01:54:59,521 >> Good afternoon. 3260 01:54:59,521 --> 01:55:01,921 San Diego City Council. 3261 01:55:04,992 --> 01:55:05,526 Thank you for the many comments 3262 01:55:05,526 --> 01:55:06,327 we've heard so far. 3263 01:55:06,327 --> 01:55:07,950 I wanted to share with you an 3264 01:55:07,950 --> 01:55:10,950 article that came out from 3265 01:55:10,598 --> 01:55:11,332 the Washington Post in 3266 01:55:11,332 --> 01:55:11,999 association with the University 3267 01:55:11,999 --> 01:55:14,399 of Colorado study regarding 3268 01:55:17,572 --> 01:55:20,572 cannabis and brain surgery as 3269 01:55:23,511 --> 01:55:24,244 Brain Awareness Month. 3270 01:55:24,244 --> 01:55:24,879 I talked about that when we 3271 01:55:24,879 --> 01:55:25,580 were talking about e-bikes 3272 01:55:25,580 --> 01:55:26,114 because that's the injury you 3273 01:55:26,114 --> 01:55:28,514 so often hear about. 3274 01:55:29,500 --> 01:55:29,484 And traumatic brain injuries 3275 01:55:29,484 --> 01:55:30,850 are horrific. 3276 01:55:30,850 --> 01:55:30,752 Those of you who've had 3277 01:55:30,752 --> 01:55:31,252 exposure to that with people 3278 01:55:31,252 --> 01:55:33,252 can appreciate it. 3279 01:55:34,489 --> 01:55:35,156 Anyway, the article from 3280 01:55:35,156 --> 01:55:35,857 Washington Post is entitled 3281 01:55:35,857 --> 01:55:38,257 Seven Unexpected Findings that 3282 01:55:40,662 --> 01:55:41,295 Highlight Significant 3283 01:55:41,295 --> 01:55:41,863 Vulnerabilities of Younger 3284 01:55:41,863 --> 01:55:42,296 Individuals Related to 3285 01:55:42,296 --> 01:55:44,296 Marijuana Use. 3286 01:55:46,702 --> 01:55:47,402 I'm only going to share a 3287 01:55:47,402 --> 01:55:48,102 couple that really struck me. 3288 01:55:48,102 --> 01:55:51,702 First, I would like to share 3289 01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:53,708 that because continues to 3290 01:55:53,708 --> 01:55:54,342 surprise me that people don't 3291 01:55:54,342 --> 01:55:56,742 realize that the cannabis 3292 01:55:58,346 --> 01:55:58,947 people are using these days are 3293 01:55:58,947 --> 01:55:59,413 not the plant with low 3294 01:55:59,413 --> 01:56:00,148 concentrations. 3295 01:56:00,148 --> 01:56:03,148 They are highly engineered and 3296 01:56:05,530 --> 01:56:05,387 engineered to increase their 3297 01:56:05,387 --> 01:56:06,210 potency. 3298 01:56:06,210 --> 01:56:06,721 And this of course is what 3299 01:56:06,721 --> 01:56:09,121 leads to addiction and 3300 01:56:10,959 --> 01:56:11,426 dependance and adverse mental 3301 01:56:11,426 --> 01:56:12,590 health episodes. 3302 01:56:12,590 --> 01:56:14,459 Number two the structural 3303 01:56:16,698 --> 01:56:17,298 change to the adolescent brain 3304 01:56:17,298 --> 01:56:17,999 due to their exposure to 3305 01:56:17,999 --> 01:56:20,399 marijuana use is significant. 3306 01:56:23,338 --> 01:56:23,972 They call it in this article 3307 01:56:23,972 --> 01:56:24,672 brain inflammation and it 3308 01:56:24,672 --> 01:56:27,720 changes the structural wiring 3309 01:56:29,770 --> 01:56:29,444 of the White matter in 3310 01:56:29,444 --> 01:56:30,112 the brain. 3311 01:56:30,112 --> 01:56:33,712 One can only think for about 3312 01:56:35,517 --> 01:56:36,151 10s and you know what that 3313 01:56:36,151 --> 01:56:36,852 means for a population of 3314 01:56:36,852 --> 01:56:37,586 children a whole demographic. 3315 01:56:37,586 --> 01:56:41,890 And three the concern they have 3316 01:56:41,890 --> 01:56:41,789 regarding working memory 3317 01:56:41,789 --> 01:56:44,789 impairment and I've spoken to 3318 01:56:47,262 --> 01:56:47,762 that concern as it applies to 3319 01:56:47,762 --> 01:56:48,430 impaired driving. 3320 01:56:48,430 --> 01:56:49,131 The fourth and the one that 3321 01:56:49,131 --> 01:56:53,134 brings me here is the role of 3322 01:56:53,134 --> 01:56:53,835 marijuana use in triggering 3323 01:56:53,835 --> 01:56:54,369 the mental health problems of 3324 01:56:54,369 --> 01:56:55,300 paranoia and panic. 3325 01:56:55,300 --> 01:56:58,300 If you've ever dealt with 3326 01:56:59,440 --> 01:56:59,675 someone having a bad experience 3327 01:56:59,675 --> 01:57:00,108 with paranoia you know how 3328 01:57:00,108 --> 01:57:02,108 painful it is. 3329 01:57:04,579 --> 01:57:05,247 Thank you. 3330 01:57:05,247 --> 01:57:05,681 Thank you, Becky Rapp. 3331 01:57:05,681 --> 01:57:07,681 Please begin. 3332 01:57:11,180 --> 01:57:11,787 Good afternoon. 3333 01:57:11,787 --> 01:57:12,487 My name is Becky Robin. 3334 01:57:12,487 --> 01:57:13,188 I'd like to thank the Public 3335 01:57:13,188 --> 01:57:15,588 Safety Committee for bringing 3336 01:57:16,825 --> 01:57:17,525 forward the transition Support 3337 01:57:17,525 --> 01:57:18,227 Team pilot program helping to 3338 01:57:18,227 --> 01:57:20,227 connect vulnerable individuals 3339 01:57:23,970 --> 01:57:23,832 with behavioral health services 3340 01:57:23,832 --> 01:57:24,499 ,housing resources and other 3341 01:57:24,499 --> 01:57:24,833 supportive programs as it is 3342 01:57:24,833 --> 01:57:26,833 crucial. 3343 01:57:30,138 --> 01:57:30,805 However, I'm concerned that in 3344 01:57:30,805 --> 01:57:31,473 the report marijuana and its 3345 01:57:31,473 --> 01:57:32,107 potential behavioral health 3346 01:57:32,107 --> 01:57:34,507 impacts were not included. 3347 01:57:35,777 --> 01:57:36,412 If the goal of the transition 3348 01:57:36,412 --> 01:57:37,112 support team is to improve 3349 01:57:37,112 --> 01:57:39,512 behavioral health outcomes and 3350 01:57:41,483 --> 01:57:42,284 prevent people from falling 3351 01:57:42,284 --> 01:57:42,885 deeper into crisis then we must 3352 01:57:42,885 --> 01:57:43,585 recognize the connection 3353 01:57:43,585 --> 01:57:45,985 between high potency marijuana 3354 01:57:47,723 --> 01:57:48,157 products and mental health 3355 01:57:48,157 --> 01:57:48,757 consequences. 3356 01:57:48,757 --> 01:57:51,157 The most recent publicly 3357 01:57:53,362 --> 01:57:54,290 reported San Diego County 3358 01:57:54,290 --> 01:57:56,429 toxicology report found that 3359 01:57:57,833 --> 01:57:58,499 thc was present in 43% of 3360 01:57:58,499 --> 01:58:00,499 completed suicides involving 3361 01:58:03,239 --> 01:58:04,172 individuals age 25 and younger. 3362 01:58:04,172 --> 01:58:07,476 Let that sink in for a minute. 3363 01:58:07,476 --> 01:58:08,210 43%. 3364 01:58:08,210 --> 01:58:08,877 We have to start recognizing 3365 01:58:08,877 --> 01:58:11,877 the role marijuana plays in 3366 01:58:13,816 --> 01:58:14,350 mental health outcomes. 3367 01:58:14,350 --> 01:58:15,500 I'm also encouraging 3368 01:58:15,500 --> 01:58:18,500 the council to request updated 3369 01:58:19,654 --> 01:58:20,322 information from the medical 3370 01:58:20,322 --> 01:58:20,990 examiner, behavioral health 3371 01:58:20,990 --> 01:58:21,557 services and other agencies 3372 01:58:21,557 --> 01:58:21,924 regarding thc positive 3373 01:58:21,924 --> 01:58:23,924 suicides. 3374 01:58:26,610 --> 01:58:26,628 Marijuana related psychiatric 3375 01:58:26,628 --> 01:58:27,331 admissions, emergency 3376 01:58:27,331 --> 01:58:29,731 department visits and impaired 3377 01:58:32,334 --> 01:58:33,200 driving incidents. 3378 01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,402 As this pilot program 3379 01:58:38,474 --> 01:58:39,107 progresses, council must ensure 3380 01:58:39,107 --> 01:58:39,842 that marijuana prevention, 3381 01:58:39,842 --> 01:58:42,242 education and behavioral health 3382 01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:44,914 reporting are integrated into 3383 01:58:44,914 --> 01:58:45,580 this program. 3384 01:58:45,580 --> 01:58:46,282 If the mission of the trans 3385 01:58:46,282 --> 01:58:49,282 transition support team is to 3386 01:58:50,586 --> 01:58:51,219 help people avoid crisis and 3387 01:58:51,219 --> 01:58:51,887 achieve stability then we 3388 01:58:51,887 --> 01:58:52,521 should be willing to address 3389 01:58:52,521 --> 01:58:55,521 all substances that MAY be 3390 01:58:56,692 --> 01:58:57,920 contributing to those 3391 01:58:57,920 --> 01:58:57,526 challenges. 3392 01:58:57,526 --> 01:58:57,894 >> Thank you. 3393 01:58:57,894 --> 01:58:59,894 Thank you. 3394 01:59:00,895 --> 01:59:03,895 Our final speaker is Madison. 3395 01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:07,303 Again. 3396 01:59:07,303 --> 01:59:08,370 Hi. 3397 01:59:08,370 --> 01:59:08,771 Thank you and good afternoon. 3398 01:59:08,771 --> 01:59:12,371 My concern is about the growing 3399 01:59:13,409 --> 01:59:14,176 normalization of marijuana use 3400 01:59:14,176 --> 01:59:14,844 and what science tells us about 3401 01:59:14,844 --> 01:59:15,577 its impact on young people. 3402 01:59:15,577 --> 01:59:19,810 Lynn Silver is a San Diego 3403 01:59:19,810 --> 01:59:19,682 based public health physician 3404 01:59:19,682 --> 01:59:20,416 and advocate focused on 3405 01:59:20,416 --> 01:59:22,816 protecting youth health through 3406 01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:25,354 evidence based policy 3407 01:59:25,354 --> 01:59:26,210 prevention and education. 3408 01:59:26,210 --> 01:59:29,210 Her work centers on reducing 3409 01:59:30,693 --> 01:59:31,227 the harms of substance use and 3410 01:59:31,227 --> 01:59:31,861 supporting healthier 3411 01:59:31,861 --> 01:59:34,261 communities and she shared 3412 01:59:36,999 --> 01:59:37,767 the recent research that shows 3413 01:59:37,767 --> 01:59:38,468 that when it comes to cannabis, 3414 01:59:38,468 --> 01:59:38,968 three factors matter most how 3415 01:59:38,968 --> 01:59:41,368 often it is used. 3416 01:59:43,106 --> 01:59:43,706 How young someone is when they 3417 01:59:43,706 --> 01:59:44,400 start and the potency of 3418 01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:46,400 the thc. 3419 01:59:49,445 --> 01:59:50,112 Unfortunately today's marijuana 3420 01:59:50,112 --> 01:59:50,779 products are far more potent 3421 01:59:50,779 --> 01:59:51,447 than those used in previous 3422 01:59:51,447 --> 01:59:53,847 generations and young people 3423 01:59:55,284 --> 01:59:55,685 are particularly vulnerable to 3424 01:59:55,685 --> 01:59:56,387 the effects. 3425 01:59:56,387 --> 01:59:59,387 Studies have found that heavy 3426 02:00:00,556 --> 02:00:01,256 cannabis use is associated with 3427 02:00:01,256 --> 02:00:01,958 changes in brain connectivity, 3428 02:00:01,958 --> 02:00:04,958 reduced working memory and an 3429 02:00:06,963 --> 02:00:07,597 increased risk of psychosis 3430 02:00:07,597 --> 02:00:08,298 like symptoms perhaps most 3431 02:00:08,298 --> 02:00:08,965 concerning adolescents who use 3432 02:00:08,965 --> 02:00:11,365 cannabis within the previous 3433 02:00:13,169 --> 02:00:13,770 year were found to have double 3434 02:00:13,770 --> 02:00:16,770 the risk of developing a 3435 02:00:16,906 --> 02:00:17,373 psychotic or bipolar disorder 3436 02:00:17,373 --> 02:00:18,107 by age 26. 3437 02:00:18,107 --> 02:00:21,107 We're also seeing other serious 3438 02:00:23,613 --> 02:00:24,213 consequences like cases of 3439 02:00:24,213 --> 02:00:24,847 cannabinoid hyperemesis 3440 02:00:24,847 --> 02:00:25,481 syndrome, a condition that 3441 02:00:25,481 --> 02:00:25,849 causes severe and repeated 3442 02:00:25,849 --> 02:00:27,849 vomiting. 3443 02:00:30,860 --> 02:00:30,687 Have quadrupled among young 3444 02:00:30,687 --> 02:00:31,420 people in recent years. 3445 02:00:31,420 --> 02:00:33,820 Researchers have concluded that 3446 02:00:35,457 --> 02:00:36,125 cannabis does not support it as 3447 02:00:36,125 --> 02:00:36,626 a treatment for many mental 3448 02:00:36,626 --> 02:00:37,293 health conditions. 3449 02:00:37,293 --> 02:00:40,293 Despite claims often made by 3450 02:00:42,310 --> 02:00:42,665 the industry, the takeaway from 3451 02:00:42,665 --> 02:00:43,366 all this research is clear 3452 02:00:43,366 --> 02:00:46,966 there is no safe limit for 3453 02:00:47,236 --> 02:00:47,871 youth cannabis use. 3454 02:00:47,871 --> 02:00:48,538 The developing brain is 3455 02:00:48,538 --> 02:00:49,172 uniquely susceptible to harm 3456 02:00:49,172 --> 02:00:51,572 and early exposure carries 3457 02:00:53,643 --> 02:00:54,176 measurable risks that can last 3458 02:00:54,176 --> 02:00:54,777 well into adulthood. 3459 02:00:54,777 --> 02:00:55,411 As policymakers you have 3460 02:00:55,411 --> 02:00:57,811 the responsibility to put 3461 02:00:59,382 --> 02:00:59,916 the health and well-being of 3462 02:00:59,916 --> 02:01:00,483 young people first. 3463 02:01:00,483 --> 02:01:01,216 I urge you to continue 3464 02:01:01,216 --> 02:01:03,616 supporting policies that reduce 3465 02:01:06,356 --> 02:01:07,230 youth exposure, limit 3466 02:01:07,230 --> 02:01:07,657 normalization and prioritize 3467 02:01:07,657 --> 02:01:08,910 prevention and education. 3468 02:01:08,910 --> 02:01:10,910 >> Thank you. 3469 02:01:11,661 --> 02:01:12,494 Thank you. 3470 02:01:12,494 --> 02:01:13,290 >> This concludes knowledge and 3471 02:01:13,290 --> 02:01:13,396 the public comment. 3472 02:01:13,396 --> 02:01:14,300 All right. 3473 02:01:14,300 --> 02:01:14,331 Thank you Deputy Clerk for 3474 02:01:14,331 --> 02:01:16,331 that. 3475 02:01:18,268 --> 02:01:18,901 I haven't gotten confirmation 3476 02:01:18,901 --> 02:01:19,269 that the chambers will be 3477 02:01:19,269 --> 02:01:19,969 suitable. 3478 02:01:19,969 --> 02:01:23,540 I'm getting ahead Not that it 3479 02:01:23,540 --> 02:01:24,307 probably won't be. 3480 02:01:24,307 --> 02:01:24,908 So when you come back to 3481 02:01:24,908 --> 02:01:27,908 the 12th floor, check if 3482 02:01:29,246 --> 02:01:29,946 Chambers ready will go in there 3483 02:01:29,946 --> 02:01:30,480 And if not we will resume 3484 02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:31,140 the meeting here in 3485 02:01:31,140 --> 02:01:33,140 the committee room. 3486 02:01:35,285 --> 02:01:35,986 So we will now adjourn for 3487 02:01:35,986 --> 02:01:36,653 the noon recess and reconvene 3488 02:01:36,653 --> 02:01:39,222 in open session at 2 P.M. Or 3489 02:01:39,222 --> 02:01:40,900 shortly thereafter. 3490 02:01:40,900 --> 02:01:43,900 Thank you everyone for their 3491 02:29:15,681 --> 02:29:16,181 All right. 3492 02:29:16,181 --> 02:29:16,849 >> Good afternoon. 3493 02:29:16,849 --> 02:29:19,849 We're going to get started. 3494 02:29:21,320 --> 02:29:21,987 I will now reconvene the city 3495 02:29:21,987 --> 02:29:22,454 council meeting of Tuesday, 3496 02:29:22,454 --> 02:29:23,540 JUNE 23rd, 2026. 3497 02:29:23,540 --> 02:29:25,454 Deputy Clerk Please call 3498 02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:28,526 the Roll Council Member 3499 02:29:28,526 --> 02:29:29,194 Campbell. 3500 02:29:29,194 --> 02:29:29,828 Council Member Whitburn here 3501 02:29:29,828 --> 02:29:32,228 Council Member Foster here 3502 02:29:33,531 --> 02:29:34,232 Council Member Vaughn Wilbert. 3503 02:29:34,232 --> 02:29:37,232 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee. 3504 02:29:40,272 --> 02:29:40,839 Council Member Campo here. 3505 02:29:40,839 --> 02:29:41,507 Council Member Moreno. 3506 02:29:41,507 --> 02:29:43,907 Present Council Member Isla 3507 02:29:44,643 --> 02:29:45,344 Rivera. 3508 02:29:45,344 --> 02:29:45,678 And Council PRESIDENT LaCava. 3509 02:29:45,678 --> 02:29:46,378 Present. 3510 02:29:46,378 --> 02:29:49,378 Also attending the meeting are 3511 02:29:51,617 --> 02:29:52,317 Assistant City Attorney Leslie 3512 02:29:52,317 --> 02:29:52,918 Fitzgerald, Independent Budget 3513 02:29:52,918 --> 02:29:53,552 Analyst Charles Monica. 3514 02:29:53,552 --> 02:29:55,952 Council Affairs Advisor in 3515 02:29:56,888 --> 02:29:57,456 the Mayor's office Gomez Iser 3516 02:29:57,456 --> 02:29:58,157 and myself Definitely. 3517 02:29:58,157 --> 02:29:58,524 Deputy City Clerk Kevin Smith. 3518 02:29:58,524 --> 02:30:00,524 All right. 3519 02:30:03,262 --> 02:30:03,662 Thank you for that Quorum is 3520 02:30:03,662 --> 02:30:04,362 now present. 3521 02:30:04,362 --> 02:30:04,997 While the technical issues in 3522 02:30:04,997 --> 02:30:05,664 council chambers look like 3523 02:30:05,664 --> 02:30:08,664 they're very, very close to 3524 02:30:10,436 --> 02:30:11,203 being resolved, we decided to 3525 02:30:11,203 --> 02:30:11,704 take this or I decided to take 3526 02:30:11,704 --> 02:30:12,271 the safer course. 3527 02:30:12,271 --> 02:30:14,671 >> We know this works. 3528 02:30:15,841 --> 02:30:16,608 It went very well This morning. 3529 02:30:16,608 --> 02:30:17,408 And again, thank you to 3530 02:30:17,408 --> 02:30:21,608 the city clerk's work, I.T. And 3531 02:30:21,947 --> 02:30:22,348 everybody my colleagues and 3532 02:30:22,348 --> 02:30:23,150 the public. 3533 02:30:23,150 --> 02:30:26,150 Flexibility to move us into 3534 02:30:27,819 --> 02:30:28,521 the committee room and get on 3535 02:30:28,521 --> 02:30:30,921 with this morning's business. 3536 02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:34,826 With that we also have a change 3537 02:30:34,826 --> 02:30:37,826 of order for this afternoon. 3538 02:30:38,330 --> 02:30:38,930 We will start with item 333. 3539 02:30:38,930 --> 02:30:41,930 We will hear the staff 3540 02:30:44,769 --> 02:30:45,638 presentation and public comment 3541 02:30:45,638 --> 02:30:46,272 for that item and we will trail 3542 02:30:46,272 --> 02:30:48,672 item 333 after the public 3543 02:30:50,376 --> 02:30:51,143 hearing is concluded. 3544 02:30:51,143 --> 02:30:52,100 We will then hear item 330. 3545 02:30:52,100 --> 02:30:55,610 After that is concluded we will 3546 02:30:57,150 --> 02:30:57,717 come back for item 333 to hear 3547 02:30:57,717 --> 02:30:58,451 the tabulation of any protests 3548 02:30:58,451 --> 02:31:01,451 and proceed with council member 3549 02:31:02,388 --> 02:31:03,550 comments. 3550 02:31:03,550 --> 02:31:03,389 Questions and entertain a 3551 02:31:03,389 --> 02:31:05,389 motion. 3552 02:31:08,461 --> 02:31:11,461 With that Deputy Clerk please 3553 02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:14,834 introduce item 333333 is 3554 02:31:14,834 --> 02:31:15,501 collection of solid waste 3555 02:31:15,501 --> 02:31:15,802 management fee on county tax 3556 02:31:15,802 --> 02:31:16,536 rolls. 3557 02:31:16,536 --> 02:31:19,710 Six votes are required pursuant 3558 02:31:19,710 --> 02:31:19,505 to health and safety Code 3559 02:31:19,505 --> 02:31:19,939 section 5473. 3560 02:31:19,939 --> 02:31:21,939 >> All right. 3561 02:31:25,111 --> 02:31:25,744 We will now open the notice to 3562 02:31:25,744 --> 02:31:26,412 public hearing to consider 3563 02:31:26,412 --> 02:31:27,112 whether to adopt the written 3564 02:31:27,112 --> 02:31:29,512 report identifying the parcels 3565 02:31:30,583 --> 02:31:31,284 receiving city provided solid 3566 02:31:31,284 --> 02:31:32,180 waste management services and 3567 02:31:32,180 --> 02:31:32,551 the solid waste management fees 3568 02:31:32,551 --> 02:31:34,951 for each parcel for 3569 02:31:36,824 --> 02:31:37,523 the upcoming tax year. 3570 02:31:37,523 --> 02:31:38,257 If the report is adopted, 3571 02:31:38,257 --> 02:31:38,925 the solid waste management fees 3572 02:31:38,925 --> 02:31:42,525 listed in the report will be 3573 02:31:42,996 --> 02:31:43,662 collected on the 2026 2027 3574 02:31:43,662 --> 02:31:47,262 county tax roll in the same 3575 02:31:48,701 --> 02:31:49,401 manner by the same persons at 3576 02:31:49,401 --> 02:31:49,969 the same time as together with 3577 02:31:49,969 --> 02:31:52,369 and not separate from 3578 02:31:54,607 --> 02:31:55,407 the general taxes. 3579 02:31:55,407 --> 02:31:56,420 If you are an affected property 3580 02:31:56,420 --> 02:31:56,776 owners and have a written 3581 02:31:56,776 --> 02:32:00,376 protest that you want to submit 3582 02:32:01,580 --> 02:32:02,182 please bring it to the front 3583 02:32:02,182 --> 02:32:02,848 where speaker slips are 3584 02:32:02,848 --> 02:32:03,550 submitted And if you wish to 3585 02:32:03,550 --> 02:32:06,719 register a protest as part of 3586 02:32:06,719 --> 02:32:07,253 your comments please state your 3587 02:32:07,253 --> 02:32:07,653 name and address for 3588 02:32:07,653 --> 02:32:08,354 the record. 3589 02:32:08,354 --> 02:32:11,354 Both oral and written protest 3590 02:32:12,192 --> 02:32:12,859 will be accepted including 3591 02:32:12,859 --> 02:32:13,459 protest received virtually. 3592 02:32:13,459 --> 02:32:15,859 The public hearing will 3593 02:32:18,798 --> 02:32:19,299 conclude at the end of all 3594 02:32:19,299 --> 02:32:19,999 public testimony. 3595 02:32:19,999 --> 02:32:20,700 And as stated earlier we will 3596 02:32:20,700 --> 02:32:24,300 then trail this item and move 3597 02:32:24,737 --> 02:32:25,305 on to item 330 to allow 3598 02:32:25,305 --> 02:32:25,939 the clerk to tabulate 3599 02:32:25,939 --> 02:32:28,339 the protests from affected 3600 02:32:30,910 --> 02:32:31,644 property owners without staff. 3601 02:32:31,644 --> 02:32:32,345 Please introduce yourselves for 3602 02:32:32,345 --> 02:32:33,460 the record and let us know how 3603 02:32:33,460 --> 02:32:36,646 much time you need for your 3604 02:32:36,749 --> 02:32:37,483 presentation. 3605 02:32:37,483 --> 02:32:38,151 Good afternoon Council members. 3606 02:32:38,151 --> 02:32:38,718 My name is Jeremy Bauer and 3607 02:32:38,718 --> 02:32:39,285 Assistant Director of 3608 02:32:39,285 --> 02:32:41,285 Environmental Services 3609 02:32:43,256 --> 02:32:43,923 Department and joined today 3610 02:32:43,923 --> 02:32:44,324 with us with Deputy Director 3611 02:32:44,324 --> 02:32:45,125 Sarah Sims. 3612 02:32:45,125 --> 02:32:48,125 We request ten minutes please. 3613 02:32:51,564 --> 02:32:52,332 When you're ready. 3614 02:32:52,332 --> 02:32:53,330 So today's action we'll talk 3615 02:32:53,330 --> 02:32:53,700 quickly about the background. 3616 02:32:53,700 --> 02:32:56,100 Following the description of 3617 02:32:58,370 --> 02:32:59,720 the proposed action, talk about 3618 02:32:59,720 --> 02:32:59,806 today's meeting, the proposed 3619 02:32:59,806 --> 02:33:03,406 hearing and how it was noticed. 3620 02:33:03,409 --> 02:33:04,110 We'll discuss how the fees were 3621 02:33:04,110 --> 02:33:04,744 calculated for those that are 3622 02:33:04,744 --> 02:33:05,411 in the report that will be 3623 02:33:05,411 --> 02:33:07,811 presented and considered by 3624 02:33:09,515 --> 02:33:10,283 city council. 3625 02:33:10,283 --> 02:33:10,951 Will remind the departments 3626 02:33:10,951 --> 02:33:13,951 benefits of tax for billing 3627 02:33:14,954 --> 02:33:15,755 that we had identified last 3628 02:33:15,755 --> 02:33:19,355 year and continue to hold today 3629 02:33:21,270 --> 02:33:21,341 And then timeline of next steps 3630 02:33:21,341 --> 02:33:22,280 . 3631 02:33:22,280 --> 02:33:22,728 So on the proposed action I 3632 02:33:22,728 --> 02:33:23,463 just for the record I want to 3633 02:33:23,463 --> 02:33:26,463 note that yesterday we did 3634 02:33:27,660 --> 02:33:27,633 update the description of 3635 02:33:27,633 --> 02:33:28,135 the proposed action in 3636 02:33:28,135 --> 02:33:28,802 the staff report. 3637 02:33:28,802 --> 02:33:31,802 It had referenced the fiscal 3638 02:33:32,305 --> 02:33:33,600 year as fiscal year 27 dash 3639 02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:35,600 2006 2006 dash 2007 and just 3640 02:33:37,711 --> 02:33:38,378 didn't conform with how 3641 02:33:38,378 --> 02:33:38,778 the city typically refers to 3642 02:33:38,778 --> 02:33:39,512 fiscal year. 3643 02:33:39,512 --> 02:33:43,112 We corrected it to match what's 3644 02:33:43,917 --> 02:33:44,784 on the screen fiscal year 2047. 3645 02:33:44,784 --> 02:33:48,384 So the item today as council 3646 02:33:50,357 --> 02:33:51,910 PRESIDENT Explained is for 3647 02:33:51,910 --> 02:33:51,791 Council to consider a report of 3648 02:33:51,791 --> 02:33:52,492 a list of the properties that 3649 02:33:52,492 --> 02:33:54,892 receive solid waste management 3650 02:33:55,896 --> 02:33:56,597 services from the city of San 3651 02:33:56,597 --> 02:33:57,364 Diego and the amount of fee to 3652 02:33:57,364 --> 02:33:58,331 be charged for the solid waste 3653 02:33:58,331 --> 02:34:01,331 management fee for fiscal year 3654 02:34:04,804 --> 02:34:05,472 2027 as background. 3655 02:34:05,472 --> 02:34:06,106 Last JUNE after the fee was 3656 02:34:06,106 --> 02:34:08,506 adopted by City Council 3657 02:34:10,911 --> 02:34:11,578 emergency Services Department 3658 02:34:11,578 --> 02:34:12,178 returned to City Council to 3659 02:34:12,178 --> 02:34:12,880 receive authorization to 3660 02:34:12,880 --> 02:34:16,480 collect that fee on the county 3661 02:34:16,683 --> 02:34:17,351 tax roll. 3662 02:34:17,351 --> 02:34:18,840 The city then submitted a 3663 02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:22,189 report to county of the list of 3664 02:34:22,189 --> 02:34:22,522 properties and the amount of 3665 02:34:22,522 --> 02:34:23,257 the fee. 3666 02:34:23,257 --> 02:34:23,924 And then as the county collects 3667 02:34:23,924 --> 02:34:27,524 the fee it remits revenue to 3668 02:34:28,295 --> 02:34:28,862 the city each month as it 3669 02:34:28,862 --> 02:34:29,529 revenues receive from 3670 02:34:29,529 --> 02:34:32,529 the county from customers to 3671 02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:35,200 the county typically comes into 3672 02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:35,702 a bulk areas of revenue around 3673 02:34:35,702 --> 02:34:36,203 NOVEMBER, DECEMBER and between 3674 02:34:36,203 --> 02:34:38,203 FEBRUARY and APRIL 3675 02:34:41,740 --> 02:34:41,808 corresponding when the majority 3676 02:34:41,808 --> 02:34:42,109 of customers pay their property 3677 02:34:42,109 --> 02:34:44,109 taxes. 3678 02:34:46,814 --> 02:34:47,548 So today's action is to request 3679 02:34:47,548 --> 02:34:48,247 Council to adopt the report for 3680 02:34:48,247 --> 02:34:51,247 fiscal year 27 And as Council 3681 02:34:51,318 --> 02:34:52,186 PRESIDENT Noted, this requires 3682 02:34:52,186 --> 02:34:52,652 a two thirds majority to pass a 3683 02:34:52,652 --> 02:34:54,652 public hearing. 3684 02:34:58,425 --> 02:34:59,920 Notice was published on JUNE 3685 02:34:59,920 --> 02:34:59,392 8th and filed with the city 3686 02:34:59,392 --> 02:35:00,127 clerk. 3687 02:35:00,127 --> 02:35:03,127 The city Clerk website includes 3688 02:35:04,264 --> 02:35:04,931 the report of the properties. 3689 02:35:04,931 --> 02:35:05,665 We also turn on the daily 3690 02:35:05,665 --> 02:35:06,233 transcript We advertised notice 3691 02:35:06,233 --> 02:35:08,633 of today's meeting and 3692 02:35:11,205 --> 02:35:12,600 availability of the report as 3693 02:35:12,600 --> 02:35:12,706 well as how to protest and how 3694 02:35:12,706 --> 02:35:16,760 to be present for this meeting 3695 02:35:16,760 --> 02:35:16,710 and then the report if adopted 3696 02:35:16,710 --> 02:35:17,278 by City Council today. 3697 02:35:17,278 --> 02:35:17,978 Environmental Services 3698 02:35:17,978 --> 02:35:20,978 Department by AUGUST 10th will 3699 02:35:21,448 --> 02:35:22,820 submit that report to 3700 02:35:22,820 --> 02:35:22,817 the county which will then 3701 02:35:22,817 --> 02:35:26,417 allow us to collect the revenue 3702 02:35:28,220 --> 02:35:28,789 in the coming year. 3703 02:35:28,789 --> 02:35:29,590 This slide just shows a an 3704 02:35:29,590 --> 02:35:32,590 image of notice that was 3705 02:35:33,461 --> 02:35:34,280 published with the daily 3706 02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:34,762 transcript including a 3707 02:35:34,762 --> 02:35:35,328 description of today's hearing. 3708 02:35:35,328 --> 02:35:37,728 The time and location 3709 02:35:38,899 --> 02:35:39,566 the health and Safety code 3710 02:35:39,566 --> 02:35:40,301 citation contact information 3711 02:35:40,301 --> 02:35:43,901 and information on how the city 3712 02:35:44,805 --> 02:35:45,673 considers protests. 3713 02:35:45,673 --> 02:35:48,673 This slide shows the headings 3714 02:35:50,845 --> 02:35:51,545 of the report. 3715 02:35:51,545 --> 02:35:52,179 So the first column is 3716 02:35:52,179 --> 02:35:55,179 the individual id for each 3717 02:35:56,784 --> 02:35:57,118 property the assessor's parcel 3718 02:35:57,118 --> 02:35:57,652 number. 3719 02:35:57,652 --> 02:35:58,286 The second column is 3720 02:35:58,286 --> 02:35:58,652 the baseline fee for each 3721 02:35:58,652 --> 02:36:00,652 property. 3722 02:36:03,157 --> 02:36:03,858 So corresponding to the service 3723 02:36:03,858 --> 02:36:04,659 level that that property has. 3724 02:36:04,659 --> 02:36:08,259 So for example if a property 3725 02:36:08,896 --> 02:36:11,296 has the 35 gallon trash 3726 02:36:13,634 --> 02:36:14,235 container package it would show 3727 02:36:14,235 --> 02:36:14,869 $403.92 corresponding to 3728 02:36:14,869 --> 02:36:15,336 the baseline rate for that 3729 02:36:15,336 --> 02:36:17,336 service package. 3730 02:36:20,341 --> 02:36:21,800 The next four columns show 3731 02:36:21,800 --> 02:36:21,709 potential credits that that 3732 02:36:21,709 --> 02:36:22,343 property might have earned in 3733 02:36:22,343 --> 02:36:24,743 this current fiscal year. 3734 02:36:25,947 --> 02:36:26,747 So for example, if a property 3735 02:36:26,747 --> 02:36:29,147 ordered a 35 gallon package 3736 02:36:32,190 --> 02:36:32,687 the smallest container this 3737 02:36:32,687 --> 02:36:33,321 year in right now and they 3738 02:36:33,321 --> 02:36:35,721 received that in JANUARY. 3739 02:36:37,158 --> 02:36:39,558 The 35 gallon package is $10.78 3740 02:36:41,496 --> 02:36:42,263 less than the 95 gallon. 3741 02:36:42,263 --> 02:36:42,697 So the math would be six months 3742 02:36:42,697 --> 02:36:44,697 times $10.78. 3743 02:36:47,101 --> 02:36:49,501 So that would show-$64.68. 3744 02:36:53,207 --> 02:36:53,875 So demonstrating a credit of 3745 02:36:53,875 --> 02:36:54,208 $64.68 for the difference in 3746 02:36:54,208 --> 02:36:54,842 the fee. 3747 02:36:54,842 --> 02:36:57,242 Similarly, the next column 3748 02:36:59,280 --> 02:36:59,647 shows financial assistance 3749 02:36:59,647 --> 02:37:00,348 received. 3750 02:37:00,348 --> 02:37:01,150 So if a property was eligible 3751 02:37:01,150 --> 02:37:03,415 for financial assistance in 3752 02:37:04,852 --> 02:37:05,553 this case it might show 3753 02:37:05,553 --> 02:37:07,553 -$201.96 corresponding to that 3754 02:37:10,391 --> 02:37:11,159 credit for assistance. 3755 02:37:11,159 --> 02:37:11,892 The next item just says other 3756 02:37:11,892 --> 02:37:12,493 adjustments That's a catch all. 3757 02:37:12,493 --> 02:37:15,493 We don't have any other 3758 02:37:16,530 --> 02:37:17,232 adjustments but we included 3759 02:37:17,232 --> 02:37:17,899 that in case there were other 3760 02:37:17,899 --> 02:37:18,566 adjustments to account for. 3761 02:37:18,566 --> 02:37:19,200 And then the next column is 3762 02:37:19,200 --> 02:37:22,200 total of all the credits. 3763 02:37:22,604 --> 02:37:26,804 So in this case for example I 3764 02:37:27,442 --> 02:37:28,420 just described it would be 3765 02:37:28,420 --> 02:37:30,420 $64.68 plus 201 96. 3766 02:37:31,612 --> 02:37:32,547 So a total credit of $266.64. 3767 02:37:32,547 --> 02:37:35,547 The next several columns show 3768 02:37:37,651 --> 02:37:38,520 debits or additional charges. 3769 02:37:38,520 --> 02:37:42,120 So if for example a customer 3770 02:37:43,224 --> 02:37:43,891 received a second trash 3771 02:37:43,891 --> 02:37:46,891 container in JANUARY in this 3772 02:37:47,695 --> 02:37:48,328 fiscal year a second trash 3773 02:37:48,328 --> 02:37:48,630 container costs $17.78 per 3774 02:37:48,630 --> 02:37:49,230 month. 3775 02:37:49,230 --> 02:37:52,230 If they received that in 3776 02:37:53,133 --> 02:37:53,568 JANUARY the math would be six 3777 02:37:53,568 --> 02:37:55,568 times 1778. 3778 02:37:57,605 --> 02:37:58,106 So this customer would show a 3779 02:37:58,106 --> 02:37:58,973 debit of $106.68. 3780 02:37:58,973 --> 02:38:02,573 Assume as well for example that 3781 02:38:04,712 --> 02:38:05,347 this customer pledged to donate 3782 02:38:05,347 --> 02:38:05,880 $100 toward the financial 3783 02:38:05,880 --> 02:38:06,548 assistance program. 3784 02:38:06,548 --> 02:38:10,148 In that case, the column for 3785 02:38:10,385 --> 02:38:10,886 financial assistance donation 3786 02:38:10,886 --> 02:38:11,619 would show $100. 3787 02:38:11,619 --> 02:38:12,320 So in this example if you 3788 02:38:12,320 --> 02:38:15,320 summarize to the total would 3789 02:38:16,591 --> 02:38:17,292 show $206.68. 3790 02:38:17,292 --> 02:38:17,692 The final column on the right 3791 02:38:17,692 --> 02:38:19,692 is the net. 3792 02:38:22,264 --> 02:38:22,864 So we would show whatever 3793 02:38:22,864 --> 02:38:23,564 the baseline fee was for 3794 02:38:23,564 --> 02:38:26,564 the customer minus any credits 3795 02:38:27,968 --> 02:38:28,303 plus any additional charges or 3796 02:38:28,303 --> 02:38:29,700 debits. 3797 02:38:29,700 --> 02:38:33,270 And that would be the amount to 3798 02:38:34,142 --> 02:38:34,910 be charged to the customer. 3799 02:38:34,910 --> 02:38:35,577 Just want to note that although 3800 02:38:35,577 --> 02:38:36,210 this MAY sound complicated, 3801 02:38:36,210 --> 02:38:39,210 the portal was designed to 3802 02:38:40,282 --> 02:38:40,882 track the delivery dates of 3803 02:38:40,882 --> 02:38:41,550 containers and to export 3804 02:38:41,550 --> 02:38:45,150 the report in an easy manner 3805 02:38:45,721 --> 02:38:46,588 for stuff. 3806 02:38:46,588 --> 02:38:50,188 This slide shows in text form 3807 02:38:51,960 --> 02:38:52,627 what I just described on how 3808 02:38:52,627 --> 02:38:53,280 the fees were calculated in 3809 02:38:53,280 --> 02:38:55,280 the report. 3810 02:38:57,165 --> 02:38:57,966 I'll also note that customers 3811 02:38:57,966 --> 02:38:58,633 can view the fee breakdown on 3812 02:38:58,633 --> 02:39:01,633 their portal account if they 3813 02:39:03,738 --> 02:39:04,372 have a portal account at which 3814 02:39:04,372 --> 02:39:05,400 portal that San diego.Gov. 3815 02:39:05,400 --> 02:39:05,841 If they don't have a portal 3816 02:39:05,841 --> 02:39:09,441 account they can call our call 3817 02:39:09,912 --> 02:39:10,646 center. 3818 02:39:10,646 --> 02:39:11,460 The number listed on the slide 3819 02:39:11,460 --> 02:39:13,460 858694 7000. 3820 02:39:15,784 --> 02:39:16,485 And our call center staff have 3821 02:39:16,485 --> 02:39:17,152 access to the background data 3822 02:39:17,152 --> 02:39:17,852 and could describe the math 3823 02:39:17,852 --> 02:39:20,989 that goes into the charts for 3824 02:39:20,989 --> 02:39:21,757 each property. 3825 02:39:21,757 --> 02:39:24,157 This slide just recaps 3826 02:39:27,862 --> 02:39:28,530 the rationale why staff 3827 02:39:28,530 --> 02:39:28,897 proposed checks were billing 3828 02:39:28,897 --> 02:39:29,598 initially. 3829 02:39:29,598 --> 02:39:32,598 We had estimated that standing 3830 02:39:33,702 --> 02:39:34,436 up any billing department would 3831 02:39:34,436 --> 02:39:35,137 cost a significant sum of money 3832 02:39:35,137 --> 02:39:35,804 and the costs of that program 3833 02:39:35,804 --> 02:39:38,204 would have been incorporated 3834 02:39:39,241 --> 02:39:39,675 into the overall fee that went 3835 02:39:39,675 --> 02:39:40,342 to customers. 3836 02:39:40,342 --> 02:39:43,342 By taking another path that 3837 02:39:45,413 --> 02:39:45,780 savings has been passed on to 3838 02:39:45,780 --> 02:39:46,414 customers. 3839 02:39:46,414 --> 02:39:49,414 Its actual billing is also 3840 02:39:51,487 --> 02:39:52,540 convenient for customers. 3841 02:39:52,540 --> 02:39:52,788 They're already paying 3842 02:39:52,788 --> 02:39:53,522 the property tax bill anyway so 3843 02:39:53,522 --> 02:39:56,658 this is one less bill to track. 3844 02:39:56,658 --> 02:39:57,426 It's easier for the city We 3845 02:39:57,426 --> 02:39:57,926 have no need to track tenants 3846 02:39:57,926 --> 02:39:58,594 coming and going. 3847 02:39:58,594 --> 02:39:58,893 The customer is the property 3848 02:39:58,893 --> 02:40:00,893 owner. 3849 02:40:02,798 --> 02:40:03,198 There is a strong payment 3850 02:40:03,198 --> 02:40:05,198 compliance. 3851 02:40:07,436 --> 02:40:08,700 As of last week 98.48% of 3852 02:40:08,700 --> 02:40:08,570 customers have paid their 3853 02:40:08,570 --> 02:40:09,238 property tax bill. 3854 02:40:09,238 --> 02:40:12,838 We have a couple more weeks 3855 02:40:14,900 --> 02:40:14,743 left in the fiscal year. 3856 02:40:14,743 --> 02:40:17,743 Typically the city budget its 3857 02:40:18,848 --> 02:40:19,248 budgets with an assumption of 3858 02:40:19,248 --> 02:40:20,115 98.89 8.9. 3859 02:40:20,115 --> 02:40:20,816 So we'll be able to see in 3860 02:40:20,816 --> 02:40:21,483 the coming weeks whether this 3861 02:40:21,483 --> 02:40:24,720 year is on track with prior 3862 02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:25,354 years or if there's any 3863 02:40:25,354 --> 02:40:26,880 difference and the cost to 3864 02:40:26,880 --> 02:40:30,288 the city for the county to send 3865 02:40:31,193 --> 02:40:31,895 other bills, collect 3866 02:40:31,895 --> 02:40:35,364 the revenue and do any follow 3867 02:40:35,364 --> 02:40:36,980 up customers cost us around 3868 02:40:36,980 --> 02:40:39,980 $22,500 per year for the county 3869 02:40:41,137 --> 02:40:41,904 to take care of all of them. 3870 02:40:41,904 --> 02:40:42,538 And this last slide just shows 3871 02:40:42,538 --> 02:40:45,538 a summary of the timeline. 3872 02:40:48,770 --> 02:40:48,711 So on JUNE 8th as I noted, we 3873 02:40:48,711 --> 02:40:49,278 noticed the action today, 3874 02:40:49,278 --> 02:40:51,678 the report today being 3875 02:40:53,716 --> 02:40:54,416 available. 3876 02:40:54,416 --> 02:40:54,783 The hearing is taking place as 3877 02:40:54,783 --> 02:40:55,418 we speak. 3878 02:40:55,418 --> 02:40:59,180 And then by AUGUST 10th if 3879 02:40:59,288 --> 02:40:59,855 council adopts the fee we will 3880 02:40:59,855 --> 02:41:00,489 provide the report to 3881 02:41:00,489 --> 02:41:01,900 the county which will then 3882 02:41:01,900 --> 02:41:01,757 allow us to collect this 3883 02:41:01,757 --> 02:41:02,580 revenue in the coming fiscal 3884 02:41:02,580 --> 02:41:04,580 year. 3885 02:41:05,761 --> 02:41:06,429 And then in the fall customers 3886 02:41:06,429 --> 02:41:10,365 can expect to see the fee on 3887 02:41:10,365 --> 02:41:11,330 their property tax bills. 3888 02:41:11,330 --> 02:41:14,330 And that's all I have. 3889 02:41:16,205 --> 02:41:16,606 Thank you. 3890 02:41:16,606 --> 02:41:17,340 All right. 3891 02:41:17,340 --> 02:41:18,340 Thank you for the presentation. 3892 02:41:18,340 --> 02:41:22,540 So with that we will go to 3893 02:41:22,778 --> 02:41:23,646 public comment. 3894 02:41:23,646 --> 02:41:24,247 And as a friendly reminder to 3895 02:41:24,247 --> 02:41:27,247 issue a protest you must 3896 02:41:28,183 --> 02:41:28,887 actually be a customer of 3897 02:41:28,887 --> 02:41:29,385 the City of San Diego trash 3898 02:41:29,385 --> 02:41:31,385 collection system. 3899 02:41:34,624 --> 02:41:34,960 So please proceed with public 3900 02:41:34,960 --> 02:41:35,391 comment. 3901 02:41:35,391 --> 02:41:36,580 >> Thank you. 3902 02:41:36,580 --> 02:41:38,458 Council PRESIDENT The public 3903 02:41:40,262 --> 02:41:40,630 comment period for this item is 3904 02:41:40,630 --> 02:41:41,397 now open. 3905 02:41:41,397 --> 02:41:42,640 I would like to remind everyone 3906 02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:42,698 that if you are an affected 3907 02:41:42,698 --> 02:41:45,698 property owner and wish to 3908 02:41:46,200 --> 02:41:46,702 submit a protest against 3909 02:41:46,702 --> 02:41:47,303 adoption of the written report 3910 02:41:47,303 --> 02:41:48,370 identifying solid waste 3911 02:41:48,370 --> 02:41:51,370 management fees to be collected 3912 02:41:51,741 --> 02:41:52,442 on the 2026 2027 tax rule You 3913 02:41:52,442 --> 02:41:53,109 must do so prior to the close 3914 02:41:53,109 --> 02:41:56,109 of the public hearing or 3915 02:41:57,280 --> 02:41:57,914 protests started during 3916 02:41:57,914 --> 02:41:58,614 the public comment period. 3917 02:41:58,614 --> 02:41:59,349 Protests that are received by 3918 02:41:59,349 --> 02:42:02,949 the court before the hearing is 3919 02:42:03,386 --> 02:42:04,870 closed will be counted. 3920 02:42:04,870 --> 02:42:04,821 If you're in chambers please 3921 02:42:04,821 --> 02:42:08,421 submit your speaker slip on top 3922 02:42:08,991 --> 02:42:09,359 of the box at the front of 3923 02:42:09,359 --> 02:42:10,590 the room. 3924 02:42:10,590 --> 02:42:13,659 If you're watching on city tv 3925 02:42:15,432 --> 02:42:16,320 or the live stream online and 3926 02:42:16,320 --> 02:42:19,320 would like to call into 3927 02:42:20,200 --> 02:42:20,503 the meeting to speak please 3928 02:42:20,503 --> 02:42:22,503 call 16692545252. 3929 02:42:24,573 --> 02:42:25,275 When prompted input webinar id 3930 02:42:25,275 --> 02:42:26,420 1609430466 If you are joining 3931 02:42:26,420 --> 02:42:29,420 us virtually please raise your 3932 02:42:31,147 --> 02:42:31,848 hand to speak by tapping 3933 02:42:31,848 --> 02:42:33,349 the raise your hand icon or if 3934 02:42:33,349 --> 02:42:33,750 you are calling participant 3935 02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:35,750 Star nine. 3936 02:42:40,690 --> 02:42:41,191 We will we will begin with 3937 02:42:41,191 --> 02:42:43,191 in-person comment. 3938 02:42:44,228 --> 02:42:44,961 Max Schmitt to please come 3939 02:42:44,961 --> 02:42:47,961 forward you'll have ten minutes 3940 02:43:01,911 --> 02:43:02,237 to speak. 3941 02:43:02,237 --> 02:43:04,237 Hi. 3942 02:43:07,951 --> 02:43:08,618 I wanted to be a voice for all 3943 02:43:08,618 --> 02:43:09,485 property owners in San Diego 3944 02:43:09,485 --> 02:43:13,850 who could not come to this 3945 02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:14,758 meeting to say that 3946 02:43:14,758 --> 02:43:18,358 the property taxes are too high 3947 02:43:20,263 --> 02:43:20,964 and that for there to be this 3948 02:43:20,964 --> 02:43:23,964 additional fee on the property 3949 02:43:25,602 --> 02:43:26,335 taxes. 3950 02:43:26,335 --> 02:43:29,935 I think a lot of property 3951 02:43:31,808 --> 02:43:32,242 owners obviously don't want 3952 02:43:32,242 --> 02:43:34,242 this fee. 3953 02:43:37,114 --> 02:43:37,947 I know many people I know that 3954 02:43:37,947 --> 02:43:41,547 might be the minority of people 3955 02:43:43,186 --> 02:43:43,853 because I do believe in fair 3956 02:43:43,853 --> 02:43:44,521 elections and I believe that 3957 02:43:44,521 --> 02:43:45,221 there's many liberals in San 3958 02:43:45,221 --> 02:43:48,221 Diego who believe that city 3959 02:43:49,859 --> 02:43:50,527 council knows how to spend 3960 02:43:50,527 --> 02:43:50,794 their money better than they 3961 02:43:50,794 --> 02:43:52,794 do. 3962 02:43:56,400 --> 02:43:57,167 So maybe they support the fee. 3963 02:43:57,167 --> 02:43:58,135 However, I do know that there 3964 02:43:58,135 --> 02:44:02,335 is a voice of resistance in San 3965 02:44:02,739 --> 02:44:03,273 Diego who thinks the property 3966 02:44:03,273 --> 02:44:04,107 taxes are too high. 3967 02:44:04,107 --> 02:44:08,178 I for 1 A.M. Homeless so I 3968 02:44:08,178 --> 02:44:08,845 don't have the property so it 3969 02:44:08,845 --> 02:44:09,812 doesn't really count for me. 3970 02:44:09,812 --> 02:44:14,450 And I also want to be a voice 3971 02:44:14,450 --> 02:44:15,185 for Catholics where I think 3972 02:44:15,185 --> 02:44:18,185 many Catholics would be against 3973 02:44:20,524 --> 02:44:21,124 an added property tax for to go 3974 02:44:21,124 --> 02:44:21,725 to the city of San Diego 3975 02:44:21,725 --> 02:44:24,125 because of the Catholic 3976 02:44:26,597 --> 02:44:27,364 genocide going on. 3977 02:44:27,364 --> 02:44:27,965 I think that until the city of 3978 02:44:27,965 --> 02:44:29,965 San Diego addresses 3979 02:44:32,135 --> 02:44:32,735 the underground hidden Catholic 3980 02:44:32,735 --> 02:44:33,470 genocide I believe many 3981 02:44:33,470 --> 02:44:36,470 Catholic property owners in San 3982 02:44:38,408 --> 02:44:42,800 Diego would be against an extra 3983 02:44:43,580 --> 02:44:44,448 an increase in property tax. 3984 02:44:44,448 --> 02:44:45,149 And the reason I think that is 3985 02:44:45,149 --> 02:44:48,149 because the genocides real on 3986 02:44:49,787 --> 02:44:50,453 Catholics are being killed. 3987 02:44:50,453 --> 02:44:52,853 They're being surrounded by 3988 02:44:55,626 --> 02:44:56,226 people speaking gibberish until 3989 02:44:56,226 --> 02:44:56,860 the point they're driven 3990 02:44:56,860 --> 02:44:59,260 completely insane and it's 3991 02:45:01,980 --> 02:45:01,699 become a serious problem And 3992 02:45:01,699 --> 02:45:02,466 needs to be addressed. 3993 02:45:02,466 --> 02:45:05,466 >> Thank you for your comments. 3994 02:45:12,209 --> 02:45:12,876 Allegedly under I guess I 3995 02:45:12,876 --> 02:45:15,876 wonder how many times we're 3996 02:45:17,715 --> 02:45:18,582 going to go down this path. 3997 02:45:18,582 --> 02:45:21,582 I mean what was Proposition 218 3998 02:45:22,987 --> 02:45:23,888 put in place for And we just 3999 02:45:23,888 --> 02:45:24,855 had a lawsuit for $1 million to 4000 02:45:24,855 --> 02:45:28,358 get you guys to change what is 4001 02:45:28,358 --> 02:45:29,126 happening. 4002 02:45:29,126 --> 02:45:29,827 And here we are again saying 4003 02:45:29,827 --> 02:45:32,827 that you want people property 4004 02:45:33,864 --> 02:45:36,864 owners to come and protest. 4005 02:45:37,902 --> 02:45:38,702 Are you going to honor Prop 218 4006 02:45:38,702 --> 02:45:39,403 or are we going to go down 4007 02:45:39,403 --> 02:45:42,403 the path again to potentially 4008 02:45:44,174 --> 02:45:44,842 engage in litigation and cause 4009 02:45:44,842 --> 02:45:45,476 the city really the people a 4010 02:45:45,476 --> 02:45:47,876 million more dollars or 4011 02:45:49,246 --> 02:45:49,980 potentially more than that 4012 02:45:49,980 --> 02:45:53,580 because you are not engaging in 4013 02:45:54,852 --> 02:45:55,552 this work properly the way that 4014 02:45:55,552 --> 02:45:59,152 you talk about you know, you 4015 02:46:00,257 --> 02:46:00,558 know, strong payment compliance 4016 02:46:00,558 --> 02:46:01,392 . 4017 02:46:01,392 --> 02:46:02,159 Well, I mean when you're set to 4018 02:46:02,159 --> 02:46:06,630 lose your house if you do not 4019 02:46:06,630 --> 02:46:06,630 pay this bill I mean of course 4020 02:46:06,630 --> 02:46:07,300 you're going to force 4021 02:46:07,300 --> 02:46:07,731 compliance. 4022 02:46:07,731 --> 02:46:11,331 But when you talk about making 4023 02:46:11,402 --> 02:46:12,370 it easier and cheaper and 4024 02:46:12,370 --> 02:46:16,570 convenient to put it on a tax 4025 02:46:16,573 --> 02:46:17,308 roll that is very negligent 4026 02:46:17,308 --> 02:46:18,900 because that's not true, you're 4027 02:46:18,900 --> 02:46:21,900 actually setting people up to 4028 02:46:21,679 --> 02:46:22,346 lose their property And when 4029 02:46:22,346 --> 02:46:25,346 nobody knows about you guys 4030 02:46:26,517 --> 02:46:27,418 it's like this room is filled 4031 02:46:27,418 --> 02:46:31,555 with your staff and a couple of 4032 02:46:31,555 --> 02:46:32,156 people who you know, care about 4033 02:46:32,156 --> 02:46:32,757 what's going on in 4034 02:46:32,757 --> 02:46:33,424 the community around us. 4035 02:46:33,424 --> 02:46:37,240 But when you have people who 4036 02:46:37,280 --> 02:46:37,662 are working right now trying to 4037 02:46:37,662 --> 02:46:38,396 make ends meet and you're 4038 02:46:38,396 --> 02:46:41,396 expecting them to come and 4039 02:46:46,203 --> 02:46:46,904 protest a new tax bill, just 4040 02:46:46,904 --> 02:46:47,571 kind of wondering like why we 4041 02:46:47,571 --> 02:46:50,571 continue to do these things 4042 02:46:51,275 --> 02:46:51,976 that that is insanity when you 4043 02:46:51,976 --> 02:46:52,643 continue to try and stick a 4044 02:46:52,643 --> 02:46:56,243 square peg into a round hole 4045 02:46:57,140 --> 02:46:57,682 and expect people to I mean, 4046 02:46:57,682 --> 02:46:58,348 yeah, most people don't pay 4047 02:46:58,348 --> 02:47:01,348 attention but you will have 4048 02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:02,853 people that will come against 4049 02:47:02,853 --> 02:47:03,554 you in litigation and it's not 4050 02:47:03,554 --> 02:47:07,592 fair to the people to make us 4051 02:47:07,592 --> 02:47:08,359 do that in order for you guys 4052 02:47:08,359 --> 02:47:08,626 to follow the law you expect us 4053 02:47:08,626 --> 02:47:09,427 to. 4054 02:47:09,427 --> 02:47:12,764 And so I think that you should 4055 02:47:12,764 --> 02:47:13,131 be held to the same standard. 4056 02:47:13,131 --> 02:47:13,898 Thank you. 4057 02:47:13,898 --> 02:47:16,298 That does conclude in-person 4058 02:47:18,536 --> 02:47:19,270 public comment. 4059 02:47:19,270 --> 02:47:22,270 I've started the five person 4060 02:47:22,707 --> 02:47:23,408 excuse me I've started the five 4061 02:47:23,408 --> 02:47:24,108 minute timer in the committee 4062 02:47:24,108 --> 02:47:27,579 room and will now turn to 4063 02:47:27,579 --> 02:47:28,279 the virtual queue which there 4064 02:47:28,279 --> 02:47:30,679 are currently two participants 4065 02:47:32,350 --> 02:47:34,350 requesting to speak. 4066 02:47:35,653 --> 02:47:38,530 Hector please begin your 4067 02:47:40,825 --> 02:47:41,226 comments. 4068 02:47:41,226 --> 02:47:41,892 All right. 4069 02:47:41,892 --> 02:47:42,327 Thanks for building trust in 4070 02:47:42,327 --> 02:47:44,327 the community. 4071 02:47:46,264 --> 02:47:46,965 This is not like the one two 4072 02:47:46,965 --> 02:47:47,665 kick or this thing was not 4073 02:47:47,665 --> 02:47:50,650 really documented Trust for 4074 02:47:50,969 --> 02:47:51,636 the community but the way you 4075 02:47:51,636 --> 02:47:52,300 collect the fees I disagree 4076 02:47:52,300 --> 02:47:54,300 with this. 4077 02:47:55,907 --> 02:47:56,507 I don't have a house. 4078 02:47:56,507 --> 02:47:57,374 I got a condo. 4079 02:47:57,374 --> 02:48:00,974 So we had trash pickup private 4080 02:48:02,380 --> 02:48:05,483 and then the let it is where 4081 02:48:05,483 --> 02:48:05,816 there's no one even there to 4082 02:48:05,816 --> 02:48:06,518 protest. 4083 02:48:06,518 --> 02:48:09,518 Yes, they probably don't even 4084 02:48:09,688 --> 02:48:10,488 know about it If you send them 4085 02:48:10,488 --> 02:48:14,880 a message I think you should 4086 02:48:14,526 --> 02:48:15,227 just trust trust the people to 4087 02:48:15,227 --> 02:48:15,928 send their money and every 4088 02:48:15,928 --> 02:48:19,496 month just trust the public to 4089 02:48:19,496 --> 02:48:20,198 send you a check every month 4090 02:48:20,198 --> 02:48:20,965 instead of taking out of your 4091 02:48:20,965 --> 02:48:23,965 property tax which is just 4092 02:48:25,336 --> 02:48:28,336 that's like that's not right 4093 02:48:28,907 --> 02:48:29,608 you know to do that And any way 4094 02:48:29,608 --> 02:48:30,374 who gets the spread so your 4095 02:48:30,374 --> 02:48:33,374 check clears your property tax 4096 02:48:34,780 --> 02:48:34,779 like a week ago and then 4097 02:48:34,779 --> 02:48:38,379 the property taxes do like in 4098 02:48:38,916 --> 02:48:39,551 the next week and then who gets 4099 02:48:39,551 --> 02:48:42,551 the spread from the actual 4100 02:48:43,388 --> 02:48:44,156 money being in the bank So 4101 02:48:44,156 --> 02:48:44,890 the money comes to the city It 4102 02:48:44,890 --> 02:48:47,890 probably doesn't go directly to 4103 02:48:48,159 --> 02:48:48,727 the city for a while. 4104 02:48:48,727 --> 02:48:49,127 So does the city get 4105 02:48:49,127 --> 02:48:51,127 the spread? 4106 02:48:52,630 --> 02:48:53,165 That's the whole banking system 4107 02:48:53,165 --> 02:48:53,799 is in the spread. 4108 02:48:53,799 --> 02:48:56,199 Whoever makes that holding 4109 02:48:56,934 --> 02:48:57,402 the money for seven days is 4110 02:48:57,402 --> 02:48:58,690 worth something. 4111 02:48:58,690 --> 02:49:01,669 That's a lot of money that's 4112 02:49:02,730 --> 02:49:02,941 going to somewhere. 4113 02:49:02,941 --> 02:49:03,708 I was just wondering who get do 4114 02:49:03,708 --> 02:49:06,708 you guys know who gets 4115 02:49:07,580 --> 02:49:08,280 the spread? 4116 02:49:08,280 --> 02:49:09,130 Does the county get it while 4117 02:49:09,130 --> 02:49:11,516 they're sitting on all the cash 4118 02:49:11,516 --> 02:49:12,384 before they give it to you Or 4119 02:49:12,384 --> 02:49:16,154 do you when they pay your taxes 4120 02:49:16,154 --> 02:49:16,521 you don't get the money that 4121 02:49:16,521 --> 02:49:17,322 same day. 4122 02:49:17,322 --> 02:49:20,322 So I just wondered who's 4123 02:49:20,926 --> 02:49:21,626 shading, who's getting 4124 02:49:21,626 --> 02:49:25,226 the spread And you might want 4125 02:49:26,531 --> 02:49:27,165 to tell us if you know that 4126 02:49:27,165 --> 02:49:29,565 who's getting the spread. 4127 02:49:30,350 --> 02:49:30,735 That's one of my questions And 4128 02:49:30,735 --> 02:49:34,335 then good luck with the trash 4129 02:49:35,730 --> 02:49:38,730 thing to That's my thing. 4130 02:49:39,211 --> 02:49:39,977 Thank you for your comments. 4131 02:49:39,977 --> 02:49:40,912 Our next speaker is a caller 4132 02:49:40,912 --> 02:49:43,912 with the last four digits 8700 4133 02:49:46,118 --> 02:49:48,118 Please begin. 4134 02:49:50,922 --> 02:49:51,790 Thank you. 4135 02:49:51,790 --> 02:49:52,524 So we have two minutes right? 4136 02:49:52,524 --> 02:49:54,924 Deputy City Clerk That's 4137 02:49:55,293 --> 02:49:56,610 correct. 4138 02:49:56,610 --> 02:49:59,610 Thank you so much, Joy. 4139 02:49:59,631 --> 02:50:03,231 Senator first of all yes to 4140 02:50:04,169 --> 02:50:04,770 trash collection system I think 4141 02:50:04,770 --> 02:50:07,170 I heard this correctly 4142 02:50:08,707 --> 02:50:12,307 The county is going to keep 4143 02:50:13,445 --> 02:50:14,212 $22,000 per year out of those 4144 02:50:14,212 --> 02:50:17,812 fees in order to process them. 4145 02:50:18,816 --> 02:50:19,518 Tax rules that surprise me. 4146 02:50:19,518 --> 02:50:22,518 I wish it were zero. 4147 02:50:23,722 --> 02:50:24,423 So thank you for 4148 02:50:24,423 --> 02:50:25,491 the presentation dsd and thank 4149 02:50:25,491 --> 02:50:28,661 you to esd for all your work on 4150 02:50:28,661 --> 02:50:29,228 this matter especially thank 4151 02:50:29,228 --> 02:50:31,628 you to Kirby Brady, 4152 02:50:33,265 --> 02:50:34,132 the director. 4153 02:50:34,132 --> 02:50:34,833 Now for me this process really 4154 02:50:34,833 --> 02:50:37,833 was the lessons I've learned. 4155 02:50:38,103 --> 02:50:38,970 I learned a lot. 4156 02:50:38,970 --> 02:50:42,741 You know I was a board right 4157 02:50:42,741 --> 02:50:43,542 from the beginning and I know 4158 02:50:43,542 --> 02:50:44,510 how many years ago that was And 4159 02:50:44,510 --> 02:50:48,130 I just have learned a lot And 4160 02:50:48,130 --> 02:50:48,780 after that give and take on 4161 02:50:48,780 --> 02:50:49,800 both sides that we came to this 4162 02:50:49,800 --> 02:50:51,800 place. 4163 02:50:52,785 --> 02:50:55,785 I support the adjusted lower 4164 02:50:57,690 --> 02:50:58,324 fee schedule Now I want to say 4165 02:50:58,324 --> 02:50:58,924 this Dear homeowners, I've 4166 02:50:58,924 --> 02:50:59,657 never been a homeowner. 4167 02:50:59,657 --> 02:51:02,661 I wish that would have happened 4168 02:51:02,661 --> 02:51:03,294 to me. 4169 02:51:03,294 --> 02:51:06,294 It wasn't in the cards. 4170 02:51:06,632 --> 02:51:07,266 But anyway, dear homeowners, 4171 02:51:07,266 --> 02:51:09,666 please don't protest this. 4172 02:51:12,204 --> 02:51:12,905 I'm trying to get inside your 4173 02:51:12,905 --> 02:51:13,572 pocketbook, inside the quality 4174 02:51:13,572 --> 02:51:16,709 of your life And you know I 4175 02:51:16,709 --> 02:51:17,310 can't in reality but I just ask 4176 02:51:17,310 --> 02:51:20,310 that we need your help. 4177 02:51:22,481 --> 02:51:23,148 We need you just to jump on 4178 02:51:23,148 --> 02:51:25,817 board and to help us through 4179 02:51:25,817 --> 02:51:26,217 this big crisis of deficits and 4180 02:51:26,217 --> 02:51:26,886 so forth. 4181 02:51:26,886 --> 02:51:28,886 Everybody makes mistakes. 4182 02:51:29,922 --> 02:51:30,890 We're all doing our best So 4183 02:51:30,890 --> 02:51:33,890 dear homeowners on all sides 4184 02:51:35,428 --> 02:51:37,828 please do not protest. 4185 02:51:39,632 --> 02:51:40,432 Please participate in our 4186 02:51:40,432 --> 02:51:41,300 government and make it work for 4187 02:51:41,300 --> 02:51:44,437 all of us together at the same 4188 02:51:44,437 --> 02:51:45,204 family table. 4189 02:51:45,204 --> 02:51:48,804 So thank you for listening And 4190 02:51:49,442 --> 02:51:50,209 to all thank you. 4191 02:51:50,209 --> 02:51:53,209 Our next speaker is Toni. 4192 02:52:03,622 --> 02:52:06,220 Please begin your comments. 4193 02:52:08,727 --> 02:52:09,662 Toni we can't quite hear you. 4194 02:52:09,662 --> 02:52:12,598 Can you speak up or turn up 4195 02:52:12,598 --> 02:52:14,598 the volume please? 4196 02:52:22,709 --> 02:52:25,709 Toni, we cannot hear you. 4197 02:52:31,818 --> 02:52:32,385 We will have to move on. 4198 02:52:32,385 --> 02:52:33,520 Council PRESIDENT That 4199 02:52:33,520 --> 02:52:33,418 concludes public comment on 4200 02:52:33,418 --> 02:52:35,418 this item. 4201 02:52:36,990 --> 02:52:37,757 All right. 4202 02:52:37,757 --> 02:52:40,757 >> Thank you Deputy Kirk With 4203 02:52:41,327 --> 02:52:41,661 that the public hearing is now 4204 02:52:41,661 --> 02:52:42,395 closed. 4205 02:52:42,395 --> 02:52:45,899 And as previously noted we will 4206 02:52:45,899 --> 02:52:46,699 trail this item while protests 4207 02:52:46,699 --> 02:52:47,990 are being tabulated and move on 4208 02:52:47,990 --> 02:52:49,990 to item 330. 4209 02:52:51,337 --> 02:52:51,971 The protest will be read into 4210 02:52:51,971 --> 02:52:54,371 the record after item 330 4211 02:52:55,708 --> 02:52:56,276 concludes and we will take 4212 02:52:56,276 --> 02:52:56,910 councilmember comments 4213 02:52:56,910 --> 02:52:57,444 questions and entertain a 4214 02:52:57,444 --> 02:52:59,844 motion at that time. 4215 02:53:00,713 --> 02:53:03,713 So with that Deputy Clerk 4216 02:53:04,283 --> 02:53:04,884 please introduce item 330 Item 4217 02:53:04,884 --> 02:53:05,485 330 is city provided 4218 02:53:05,485 --> 02:53:07,485 residential Solid waste 4219 02:53:07,954 --> 02:53:09,954 management services 4220 02:53:18,364 --> 02:53:20,364 Implementation Update. 4221 02:53:23,637 --> 02:53:24,370 All right, Please introduce 4222 02:53:24,370 --> 02:53:25,710 yourselves again for the record 4223 02:53:25,710 --> 02:53:25,672 and let us know how much time 4224 02:53:25,672 --> 02:53:27,440 you need for this item. 4225 02:53:27,440 --> 02:53:27,941 >> Thank you. 4226 02:53:27,941 --> 02:53:28,541 Council PRESIDENT. 4227 02:53:28,541 --> 02:53:28,875 Good afternoon, Council 4228 02:53:28,875 --> 02:53:29,475 members. 4229 02:53:29,475 --> 02:53:30,900 My name is Jeremy Bauer, 4230 02:53:30,900 --> 02:53:32,900 Assistant Director, 4231 02:53:32,612 --> 02:53:33,460 Environmental Services 4232 02:53:33,460 --> 02:53:33,813 Department. 4233 02:53:33,813 --> 02:53:34,280 I'm joined with Sarah Sims, our 4234 02:53:34,280 --> 02:53:36,280 Deputy director. 4235 02:53:36,483 --> 02:53:37,500 MAY please have up to 15 4236 02:53:37,500 --> 02:53:37,484 minutes for this item. 4237 02:53:37,484 --> 02:53:37,984 >> All right. 4238 02:53:37,984 --> 02:53:38,285 When you're ready. 4239 02:53:38,285 --> 02:53:40,285 Great. 4240 02:53:41,220 --> 02:53:41,955 So today's item is to provide 4241 02:53:41,955 --> 02:53:42,356 an update on the implementation 4242 02:53:42,356 --> 02:53:42,922 activities. 4243 02:53:42,922 --> 02:53:44,922 Environmental Services 4244 02:53:46,592 --> 02:53:47,293 Department has been up to since 4245 02:53:47,293 --> 02:53:50,797 last JUNE when the solid waste 4246 02:53:50,797 --> 02:53:51,564 management fee was adopted. 4247 02:53:51,564 --> 02:53:52,320 We'll provide a quick update on 4248 02:53:52,320 --> 02:53:54,320 the background. 4249 02:53:55,802 --> 02:53:56,503 We'll discuss the container, 4250 02:53:56,503 --> 02:53:59,503 roll out the customer portal. 4251 02:54:00,373 --> 02:54:00,907 We'll talk about the financial 4252 02:54:00,907 --> 02:54:01,575 assistance program. 4253 02:54:01,575 --> 02:54:03,975 The outreach and engagement 4254 02:54:05,212 --> 02:54:05,912 activities we've undertaken 4255 02:54:05,912 --> 02:54:07,912 upcoming program developments. 4256 02:54:12,986 --> 02:54:13,334 The fund outlook And next Steps 4257 02:54:13,334 --> 02:54:14,200 . 4258 02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:17,200 So as a background under 4259 02:54:17,958 --> 02:54:18,658 the city ordinance city forces 4260 02:54:18,658 --> 02:54:19,292 are obligated to provide trash 4261 02:54:19,292 --> 02:54:21,692 and recycling services to 4262 02:54:23,864 --> 02:54:24,297 eligible customers in the city 4263 02:54:24,297 --> 02:54:24,965 of San Diego. 4264 02:54:24,965 --> 02:54:25,599 The city ordinance specifies 4265 02:54:25,599 --> 02:54:28,469 that this work be done by 4266 02:54:28,469 --> 02:54:28,768 employees of the city of San 4267 02:54:28,768 --> 02:54:29,536 Diego. 4268 02:54:29,536 --> 02:54:32,536 And it clarifies who's eligible 4269 02:54:32,672 --> 02:54:33,340 namely residential properties 4270 02:54:33,340 --> 02:54:36,940 with one of up to four 4271 02:54:37,211 --> 02:54:37,944 properties on a single lot that 4272 02:54:37,944 --> 02:54:38,278 meet city requirements for city 4273 02:54:38,278 --> 02:54:38,645 service. 4274 02:54:38,645 --> 02:54:40,645 Measure b. 4275 02:54:42,382 --> 02:54:43,830 When it was adopted by voters 4276 02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:43,783 in 2022, it removed a long 4277 02:54:43,783 --> 02:54:46,183 standing prohibition that had 4278 02:54:46,887 --> 02:54:47,487 been in place that prevented 4279 02:54:47,487 --> 02:54:48,880 the city from recovering 4280 02:54:48,880 --> 02:54:51,880 the cost To provide this 4281 02:54:51,391 --> 02:54:52,590 service. 4282 02:54:52,590 --> 02:54:55,590 Following a year of outreach 4283 02:54:56,496 --> 02:54:57,163 and engagement and a cost of 4284 02:54:57,163 --> 02:54:57,664 service study, we presented 4285 02:54:57,664 --> 02:54:59,664 four City Council 4286 02:55:01,535 --> 02:55:02,136 considerations last JUNE a fee 4287 02:55:02,136 --> 02:55:02,835 to recover those costs. 4288 02:55:02,835 --> 02:55:05,835 City Council adopted that fee 4289 02:55:06,406 --> 02:55:07,107 on JUNE nine, 2025 and then a 4290 02:55:07,107 --> 02:55:10,107 couple of weeks after that 4291 02:55:10,611 --> 02:55:11,311 authorized the city to collect 4292 02:55:11,311 --> 02:55:14,911 the fee on the county textual. 4293 02:55:15,882 --> 02:55:16,550 Before the adoption of that fee 4294 02:55:16,550 --> 02:55:17,217 the services were primarily 4295 02:55:17,217 --> 02:55:20,217 covered by the general fund. 4296 02:55:20,387 --> 02:55:20,854 Now they're largely covered by 4297 02:55:20,854 --> 02:55:21,655 the fee as well. 4298 02:55:21,655 --> 02:55:24,655 I'll note in this presentation 4299 02:55:24,958 --> 02:55:25,692 that on JUNE 8th the City 4300 02:55:25,692 --> 02:55:28,920 Council authorized a settlement 4301 02:55:29,796 --> 02:55:30,597 agreement which reduces 4302 02:55:30,597 --> 02:55:33,597 the previously adopted fee for 4303 02:55:33,701 --> 02:55:34,401 fiscal year 28 and 29. 4304 02:55:34,401 --> 02:55:35,680 The action did not change 4305 02:55:35,680 --> 02:55:36,360 the fee for the current year 4306 02:55:36,360 --> 02:55:40,236 nor did it change the fee for 4307 02:55:41,242 --> 02:55:41,909 next year. 4308 02:55:41,909 --> 02:55:44,909 So on the container rollout 4309 02:55:46,146 --> 02:55:46,747 I'll take the opportunity to 4310 02:55:46,747 --> 02:55:47,380 remind the rationale for 4311 02:55:47,380 --> 02:55:49,380 replacing the containers. 4312 02:55:51,418 --> 02:55:52,153 The new fee is based on 4313 02:55:52,153 --> 02:55:52,753 the size of the trash container 4314 02:55:52,753 --> 02:55:55,753 and the total number of 4315 02:55:56,290 --> 02:55:57,570 containers on the property. 4316 02:55:57,570 --> 02:55:59,457 The new containers recognizing 4317 02:56:00,561 --> 02:56:01,261 that the city did not have 4318 02:56:01,261 --> 02:56:01,929 great data on the number of 4319 02:56:01,929 --> 02:56:04,329 containers at each property. 4320 02:56:05,733 --> 02:56:06,400 We didn't have sufficient 4321 02:56:06,400 --> 02:56:06,967 accuracy or precision to be 4322 02:56:06,967 --> 02:56:09,967 able to know how many 4323 02:56:10,371 --> 02:56:11,105 containers were out there and 4324 02:56:11,105 --> 02:56:11,839 to be able to ensure customer 4325 02:56:11,839 --> 02:56:14,839 verification that we were only 4326 02:56:15,543 --> 02:56:16,176 providing service to eligible 4327 02:56:16,176 --> 02:56:19,176 customers and that we were 4328 02:56:19,713 --> 02:56:20,347 providing service at the level 4329 02:56:20,347 --> 02:56:22,747 selected by the customer. 4330 02:56:24,952 --> 02:56:25,652 Also recognizing that so many 4331 02:56:25,652 --> 02:56:26,353 of the containers out there 4332 02:56:26,353 --> 02:56:26,920 were well beyond their useful 4333 02:56:26,920 --> 02:56:29,320 life, we did make 4334 02:56:30,257 --> 02:56:30,958 the determination that the most 4335 02:56:30,958 --> 02:56:31,625 effective way to validate our 4336 02:56:31,625 --> 02:56:34,250 customers and their service 4337 02:56:35,290 --> 02:56:35,663 level was to do provide new 4338 02:56:35,663 --> 02:56:38,630 containers, new trash and 4339 02:56:39,700 --> 02:56:40,434 recycling containers. 4340 02:56:40,434 --> 02:56:40,935 Importantly we involved in this 4341 02:56:40,935 --> 02:56:42,935 process collecting 4342 02:56:44,372 --> 02:56:45,105 the containers to recycle them 4343 02:56:45,105 --> 02:56:48,705 to ensure that that material is 4344 02:56:48,910 --> 02:56:49,577 available to make new plastic 4345 02:56:49,577 --> 02:56:50,210 products including buckets, 4346 02:56:50,210 --> 02:56:53,210 pallets or even new trash 4347 02:56:53,714 --> 02:56:54,582 containers. 4348 02:56:54,582 --> 02:56:55,349 I will also note that the we 4349 02:56:55,349 --> 02:56:58,349 are not doing a comprehensive 4350 02:56:58,485 --> 02:56:59,153 replacement of the green 4351 02:56:59,153 --> 02:56:59,753 organics containers as those 4352 02:56:59,753 --> 02:57:02,753 are quite new But those 4353 02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:03,524 customers that are changing 4354 02:57:03,524 --> 02:57:04,157 their organics service level or 4355 02:57:04,157 --> 02:57:06,627 have the legacy yard waste 4356 02:57:06,627 --> 02:57:09,627 containers they will receive a 4357 02:57:11,432 --> 02:57:12,299 new green container. 4358 02:57:12,299 --> 02:57:15,299 This slide shows a visual 4359 02:57:16,103 --> 02:57:16,771 representation representation 4360 02:57:16,771 --> 02:57:17,380 of the progress of the roll 4361 02:57:17,380 --> 02:57:17,772 out. 4362 02:57:17,772 --> 02:57:20,908 You'll see the bar graphs on 4363 02:57:20,908 --> 02:57:21,542 the left. 4364 02:57:21,542 --> 02:57:22,430 The progress on the gray 4365 02:57:22,430 --> 02:57:24,430 container rollout. 4366 02:57:25,546 --> 02:57:26,180 We started in OCTOBER and 4367 02:57:26,180 --> 02:57:26,647 essentially completed that 4368 02:57:26,647 --> 02:57:28,647 process in MAY. 4369 02:57:31,252 --> 02:57:32,119 As of there's a less than half 4370 02:57:32,119 --> 02:57:35,719 a percent or so of data 4371 02:57:35,790 --> 02:57:36,391 verification for some of 4372 02:57:36,391 --> 02:57:38,791 the gray containers But 4373 02:57:38,960 --> 02:57:41,360 essentially it's complete at 4374 02:57:42,730 --> 02:57:43,398 259,000 containers to nearly 4375 02:57:43,398 --> 02:57:43,698 2020 5000 customers at this 4376 02:57:43,698 --> 02:57:44,332 point. 4377 02:57:44,332 --> 02:57:44,832 And as I mentioned, we're 4378 02:57:44,832 --> 02:57:46,832 verifying data for 4379 02:57:48,202 --> 02:57:48,603 the remaining of the blue 4380 02:57:48,603 --> 02:57:49,303 containers. 4381 02:57:49,303 --> 02:57:52,303 We're at nearly 60% roll out. 4382 02:57:52,940 --> 02:57:53,741 Do you see the teal shows, 4383 02:57:53,741 --> 02:57:56,944 the actual and the blue shows 4384 02:57:56,944 --> 02:57:57,612 the anticipated progress and 4385 02:57:57,612 --> 02:57:58,179 scheduled to be complete by 4386 02:57:58,179 --> 02:58:00,579 the end of SEPTEMBER? 4387 02:58:02,483 --> 02:58:05,483 The customer portal we launched 4388 02:58:07,188 --> 02:58:07,955 in in JULY of last year. 4389 02:58:07,955 --> 02:58:08,590 It's a way for customers to 4390 02:58:08,590 --> 02:58:10,990 engage in self-service to 4391 02:58:11,592 --> 02:58:12,260 select their containers, to 4392 02:58:12,260 --> 02:58:14,660 track their service levels, 4393 02:58:15,797 --> 02:58:16,564 track their billing history and 4394 02:58:16,564 --> 02:58:20,164 also to sign up for text 4395 02:58:20,835 --> 02:58:21,136 message alerts or email alerts 4396 02:58:21,136 --> 02:58:21,802 . 4397 02:58:21,802 --> 02:58:23,802 Over 123,000 customers have 4398 02:58:24,906 --> 02:58:25,239 created portal accounts about 4399 02:58:25,239 --> 02:58:26,700 55%. 4400 02:58:26,700 --> 02:58:26,707 We designed it to be optional. 4401 02:58:26,707 --> 02:58:29,707 We know some customers prefer 4402 02:58:29,878 --> 02:58:30,377 to speak on the phone and that 4403 02:58:30,377 --> 02:58:31,145 remains an option. 4404 02:58:31,145 --> 02:58:34,145 It also allows customers to 4405 02:58:35,160 --> 02:58:37,160 pledge donations. 4406 02:58:39,321 --> 02:58:40,210 And as of this week around 4407 02:58:40,210 --> 02:58:42,421 $63,000 has been raised by 4408 02:58:43,625 --> 02:58:44,292 customers who not only are 4409 02:58:44,292 --> 02:58:44,926 paying the fee for the first 4410 02:58:44,926 --> 02:58:45,493 time but pledged to donate 4411 02:58:45,493 --> 02:58:46,127 money to the financial 4412 02:58:46,127 --> 02:58:48,290 assistance program to help 4413 02:58:48,290 --> 02:58:48,796 their neighbors. 4414 02:58:48,796 --> 02:58:49,564 I'll also note that customers 4415 02:58:49,564 --> 02:58:53,164 can create a portal account at 4416 02:58:53,268 --> 02:58:54,380 any time. 4417 02:58:54,380 --> 02:58:57,638 They have benefits to doing so. 4418 02:58:58,439 --> 02:58:59,340 The website San Diego dot gov 4419 02:58:59,340 --> 02:59:00,108 slash trash has a 1 to 3 step 4420 02:59:00,108 --> 02:59:03,512 process for how they can create 4421 02:59:03,512 --> 02:59:04,246 an account and by doing so 4422 02:59:04,246 --> 02:59:07,846 again they have the benefits of 4423 02:59:08,182 --> 02:59:08,884 the ability to self-service for 4424 02:59:08,884 --> 02:59:10,218 container replacement repairs, 4425 02:59:10,218 --> 02:59:13,218 checking service or to view 4426 02:59:15,590 --> 02:59:16,358 their history. 4427 02:59:16,358 --> 02:59:18,758 So the financial assistance 4428 02:59:19,894 --> 02:59:20,561 program I really want to 4429 02:59:20,561 --> 02:59:20,862 describe this as a success 4430 02:59:20,862 --> 02:59:21,596 story. 4431 02:59:21,596 --> 02:59:22,197 We were throughout the outreach 4432 02:59:22,197 --> 02:59:24,597 and engagement we heard 4433 02:59:25,200 --> 02:59:25,934 concerns from residents about 4434 02:59:25,934 --> 02:59:26,768 paying a fee for the very first 4435 02:59:26,768 --> 02:59:29,971 time and we have reassured them 4436 02:59:29,971 --> 02:59:30,539 that we are working on 4437 02:59:30,539 --> 02:59:31,172 developing a financial 4438 02:59:31,172 --> 02:59:33,572 assistance program to help 4439 02:59:34,575 --> 02:59:34,876 those who would be most in 4440 02:59:34,876 --> 02:59:35,577 need. 4441 02:59:35,577 --> 02:59:36,278 So it was very meaningful for 4442 02:59:36,278 --> 02:59:39,180 us that city council included 4443 02:59:39,180 --> 02:59:39,814 in the budget for esd funding 4444 02:59:39,814 --> 02:59:42,814 to launch this program in 4445 02:59:43,918 --> 02:59:44,653 JANUARY We partnered with 4446 02:59:44,653 --> 02:59:45,320 the Metropolitan Area Advisory 4447 02:59:45,320 --> 02:59:47,720 Committee on Anti-Poverty of 4448 02:59:48,923 --> 02:59:49,724 San Diego County, also known as 4449 02:59:49,724 --> 02:59:50,426 Mack, a local nonprofit And I'm 4450 02:59:50,426 --> 02:59:52,594 pleased to share that a couple 4451 02:59:52,594 --> 02:59:53,395 of representatives from Mack 4452 02:59:53,395 --> 02:59:53,795 are here with us today in 4453 02:59:53,795 --> 02:59:55,795 the chamber. 4454 02:59:57,465 --> 02:59:58,133 >> The program was designed 4455 02:59:58,133 --> 02:59:58,767 based on either household 4456 02:59:58,767 --> 03:00:01,167 income if household if 4457 03:00:02,437 --> 03:00:04,437 customers meet income 4458 03:00:06,708 --> 03:00:07,342 requirements or as a proxy if a 4459 03:00:07,342 --> 03:00:07,943 member of the household is 4460 03:00:07,943 --> 03:00:10,343 enrolled in an existing 4461 03:00:11,880 --> 03:00:12,614 assistance program including 4462 03:00:12,614 --> 03:00:13,315 Medi-Cal Health, Fresh CalWORKs 4463 03:00:13,315 --> 03:00:13,849 or the Low Income Home Energy 4464 03:00:13,849 --> 03:00:15,849 Assistance Program. 4465 03:00:16,852 --> 03:00:17,552 If they apply they could be 4466 03:00:17,552 --> 03:00:18,153 deemed they could qualify for 4467 03:00:18,153 --> 03:00:20,153 the assistance program. 4468 03:00:21,190 --> 03:00:21,957 The assistance amount was set 4469 03:00:21,957 --> 03:00:25,557 at 50% off of the solid waste 4470 03:00:25,960 --> 03:00:26,695 management fee or recognizing 4471 03:00:26,695 --> 03:00:27,129 the concerns around charging on 4472 03:00:27,129 --> 03:00:29,129 the tax roll. 4473 03:00:30,532 --> 03:00:31,200 We added an additional 4474 03:00:31,200 --> 03:00:34,200 criterion If a household was 4475 03:00:35,537 --> 03:00:36,238 enrolled in a payment plan for 4476 03:00:36,238 --> 03:00:36,839 past due property taxes which 4477 03:00:36,839 --> 03:00:39,839 is an indicator of past 4478 03:00:40,776 --> 03:00:41,510 inability to pay their property 4479 03:00:41,510 --> 03:00:41,943 taxes, they would qualify for a 4480 03:00:41,943 --> 03:00:43,943 400% subsidy. 4481 03:00:46,140 --> 03:00:46,615 And as of this week two two 4482 03:00:46,615 --> 03:00:47,315 customers have met both 4483 03:00:47,315 --> 03:00:50,619 criteria And so we have made 4484 03:00:50,619 --> 03:00:53,455 use of both both the 50% off 4485 03:00:53,455 --> 03:00:53,789 assistance as well as the 100% 4486 03:00:53,789 --> 03:00:55,789 subsidy. 4487 03:00:58,293 --> 03:00:58,893 I'll note for fiscal year 26 4488 03:00:58,893 --> 03:00:59,662 assistance we had set a 4489 03:00:59,662 --> 03:01:02,330 deadline of APRIL 30th and Mac 4490 03:01:02,330 --> 03:01:02,864 is currently going through 4491 03:01:02,864 --> 03:01:03,432 the fourth thousand 4492 03:01:03,432 --> 03:01:03,799 applications that were 4493 03:01:03,799 --> 03:01:04,366 received. 4494 03:01:04,366 --> 03:01:06,366 We're still accepting 4495 03:01:07,536 --> 03:01:08,170 applications now through next 4496 03:01:08,170 --> 03:01:10,570 APRIL 30th for assistance 4497 03:01:11,140 --> 03:01:14,140 towards the fiscal year 27 fee. 4498 03:01:16,440 --> 03:01:16,778 And I'll note that as of as of 4499 03:01:16,778 --> 03:01:19,178 now of the approximately 4000 4500 03:01:19,381 --> 03:01:20,115 applications received, around 4501 03:01:20,115 --> 03:01:20,950 2400 have been fully approved 4502 03:01:20,950 --> 03:01:24,860 and Mac is busy working through 4503 03:01:24,860 --> 03:01:24,854 the remainder. 4504 03:01:24,854 --> 03:01:25,620 Some things to look forward to 4505 03:01:25,620 --> 03:01:28,620 for next year with with 4506 03:01:28,757 --> 03:01:29,625 the program. 4507 03:01:29,625 --> 03:01:30,292 As I noted in addition to this 4508 03:01:30,292 --> 03:01:30,626 this program remains in our 4509 03:01:30,626 --> 03:01:32,626 budget. 4510 03:01:33,929 --> 03:01:34,596 In addition to the budgeted 4511 03:01:34,596 --> 03:01:37,596 amount from the general fund 4512 03:01:37,633 --> 03:01:38,333 we're also counting on 4513 03:01:38,333 --> 03:01:38,701 the $64,000 in donations from 4514 03:01:38,701 --> 03:01:39,368 customers. 4515 03:01:39,368 --> 03:01:42,368 We've also based on feedback 4516 03:01:43,500 --> 03:01:43,706 from the community we've added 4517 03:01:43,706 --> 03:01:44,306 an additional proxy criterion 4518 03:01:44,306 --> 03:01:47,306 if a household member is 4519 03:01:48,144 --> 03:01:48,877 enrolled in the Jenny Care 4520 03:01:48,877 --> 03:01:49,344 program they would also qualify 4521 03:01:49,344 --> 03:01:51,344 for our program. 4522 03:01:52,548 --> 03:01:53,181 That will also be updating 4523 03:01:53,181 --> 03:01:53,516 the income requirements to 4524 03:01:53,516 --> 03:01:54,830 $2,027. 4525 03:01:54,830 --> 03:01:56,830 We've also streamlined 4526 03:01:57,620 --> 03:01:58,200 enrollment re enrollment based 4527 03:01:58,200 --> 03:01:58,720 on feedback. 4528 03:01:58,720 --> 03:02:02,320 If a customer is eligible one 4529 03:02:02,391 --> 03:02:03,590 year they would qualify for a 4530 03:02:03,590 --> 03:02:03,759 second year assuming it's a 4531 03:02:03,759 --> 03:02:06,759 still the same property owner. 4532 03:02:07,630 --> 03:02:08,297 Similarly if they apply for 4533 03:02:08,297 --> 03:02:09,980 the first time in 2027 they 4534 03:02:09,980 --> 03:02:11,667 would have a streamline and a 4535 03:02:11,667 --> 03:02:12,670 qualification for the year 4536 03:02:12,670 --> 03:02:12,701 after that. 4537 03:02:12,701 --> 03:02:15,101 For applications that are 4538 03:02:17,400 --> 03:02:17,739 approved to the for AUGUST 10th 4539 03:02:17,739 --> 03:02:20,739 they will see their reduction 4540 03:02:21,811 --> 03:02:22,545 applied proactively to the bill 4541 03:02:22,545 --> 03:02:25,148 that they see on their property 4542 03:02:25,148 --> 03:02:25,782 tax bill after AUGUST 10th 4543 03:02:25,782 --> 03:02:26,416 assuming funding remains. 4544 03:02:26,416 --> 03:02:29,416 We will continue to accept 4545 03:02:29,886 --> 03:02:30,686 applications on a rolling basis 4546 03:02:30,686 --> 03:02:34,286 and at that point the payments 4547 03:02:35,324 --> 03:02:36,590 will be provided as a rebate. 4548 03:02:36,590 --> 03:02:36,726 We'll continue to hold clinics, 4549 03:02:36,726 --> 03:02:39,126 in-person clinics to assist 4550 03:02:39,629 --> 03:02:40,296 customers on how to enroll, how 4551 03:02:40,296 --> 03:02:43,632 to apply for the program And 4552 03:02:43,632 --> 03:02:44,233 the program will continue to be 4553 03:02:44,233 --> 03:02:44,934 first come first serve. 4554 03:02:44,934 --> 03:02:48,400 I'll note that the funding for 4555 03:02:48,400 --> 03:02:48,471 the program had capacity for 4556 03:02:48,471 --> 03:02:49,238 7000 customers. 4557 03:02:49,238 --> 03:02:51,638 We had 4000 applications this 4558 03:02:52,775 --> 03:02:53,409 year so we did have capacity to 4559 03:02:53,409 --> 03:02:53,843 fully cover the number of 4560 03:02:53,843 --> 03:02:55,843 applications. 4561 03:02:58,580 --> 03:02:59,181 We continue to spread the word 4562 03:02:59,181 --> 03:02:59,849 about the program and we 4563 03:02:59,849 --> 03:03:02,849 believe with through word of 4564 03:03:03,286 --> 03:03:03,986 mouth and social media and 4565 03:03:03,986 --> 03:03:04,487 targeted outreach more people 4566 03:03:04,487 --> 03:03:05,154 will become aware. 4567 03:03:05,154 --> 03:03:07,990 We continue to believe that 4568 03:03:07,990 --> 03:03:08,691 the existing capacity is enough 4569 03:03:08,691 --> 03:03:09,920 to meet the need of people who 4570 03:03:09,920 --> 03:03:11,920 will apply. 4571 03:03:12,929 --> 03:03:13,596 With that said, we are 4572 03:03:13,596 --> 03:03:14,297 receiving weekly updates for 4573 03:03:14,297 --> 03:03:17,700 Mac and as we get the data if 4574 03:03:17,700 --> 03:03:21,900 we need to revisit or pivot we 4575 03:03:22,710 --> 03:03:22,672 will be able to do so. 4576 03:03:22,672 --> 03:03:24,672 Outreach and engagement. 4577 03:03:27,760 --> 03:03:30,676 Mac I mentioned has done at 4578 03:03:31,114 --> 03:03:31,848 this point 1515 in-person 4579 03:03:31,848 --> 03:03:35,118 clinics the last fiscal year or 4580 03:03:35,118 --> 03:03:35,785 sorry before APRIL 30th and 4581 03:03:35,785 --> 03:03:36,352 seven more since APRIL 30th. 4582 03:03:36,352 --> 03:03:37,219 For our part it's been 4583 03:03:37,219 --> 03:03:40,557 important to us to continue to 4584 03:03:40,557 --> 03:03:41,257 be available and present in 4585 03:03:41,257 --> 03:03:41,958 the community to give updates 4586 03:03:41,958 --> 03:03:44,728 similar to what you're hearing 4587 03:03:44,728 --> 03:03:45,462 in this presentation. 4588 03:03:45,462 --> 03:03:46,129 Talk about financial assistance 4589 03:03:46,129 --> 03:03:46,429 and answer questions face to 4590 03:03:46,429 --> 03:03:48,429 face. 4591 03:03:49,766 --> 03:03:50,599 I've seen many of your staff. 4592 03:03:50,599 --> 03:03:51,301 I've seen some of you in person 4593 03:03:51,301 --> 03:03:54,301 yourselves as well at these 4594 03:03:54,503 --> 03:03:55,380 meetings and we continue to be 4595 03:03:55,380 --> 03:03:56,606 available to do so. 4596 03:03:56,606 --> 03:04:00,206 As of now we've done about 25 4597 03:04:01,611 --> 03:04:02,212 of these meetings with 4598 03:04:02,212 --> 03:04:02,879 community planning group 4599 03:04:02,879 --> 03:04:03,213 meetings, town councils and 4600 03:04:03,213 --> 03:04:03,880 others. 4601 03:04:03,880 --> 03:04:04,948 We talk about the container 4602 03:04:04,948 --> 03:04:07,348 rollout potential systems and 4603 03:04:09,752 --> 03:04:10,520 we answer the questions. 4604 03:04:10,520 --> 03:04:13,520 So what's coming up with 4605 03:04:14,957 --> 03:04:15,825 the adoption of the reduced 4606 03:04:15,825 --> 03:04:16,659 fees for fiscal year 28 and 29? 4607 03:04:16,659 --> 03:04:20,300 As we get out in the community 4608 03:04:20,300 --> 03:04:20,797 we'll continue to amplify that 4609 03:04:20,797 --> 03:04:21,498 decision and what it means for 4610 03:04:21,498 --> 03:04:25,980 the timing of the reduced fees 4611 03:04:25,368 --> 03:04:25,969 and what it means with regard 4612 03:04:25,969 --> 03:04:26,669 to weekly just like 4613 03:04:26,669 --> 03:04:27,337 the previous plans for weekly 4614 03:04:27,337 --> 03:04:29,737 recycling and previous plans 4615 03:04:30,206 --> 03:04:30,874 for the bulky item program. 4616 03:04:30,874 --> 03:04:33,274 We'll also continue to 4617 03:04:34,844 --> 03:04:35,445 emphasize that the plan was 4618 03:04:35,445 --> 03:04:36,145 always when we developed 4619 03:04:36,145 --> 03:04:39,145 deliver the new containers to 4620 03:04:39,815 --> 03:04:40,517 ultimately phase out collection 4621 03:04:40,517 --> 03:04:41,840 from the old black containers 4622 03:04:41,840 --> 03:04:41,485 and the old dark blue 4623 03:04:41,485 --> 03:04:42,190 containers. 4624 03:04:42,190 --> 03:04:43,987 So we'll continue to 4625 03:04:43,987 --> 03:04:47,587 communicate on that as well as 4626 03:04:49,920 --> 03:04:49,792 customers who need additional 4627 03:04:49,792 --> 03:04:50,460 containers engaging with them 4628 03:04:50,460 --> 03:04:53,963 so they know how to do so 4629 03:04:53,963 --> 03:04:54,697 whether it's ordering more or 4630 03:04:54,697 --> 03:04:55,298 for those who have determined 4631 03:04:55,298 --> 03:04:58,298 they don't need as much 4632 03:04:58,835 --> 03:04:59,569 capacity how to downsize which 4633 03:04:59,569 --> 03:05:03,169 could result in reduced fee for 4634 03:05:03,573 --> 03:05:04,307 them going forward as well as 4635 03:05:04,307 --> 03:05:04,908 emphasizing the availability of 4636 03:05:04,908 --> 03:05:05,241 the financial assistance 4637 03:05:05,241 --> 03:05:07,241 program. 4638 03:05:08,312 --> 03:05:09,120 Our code compliance officers 4639 03:05:09,120 --> 03:05:09,613 when they observe overflowing 4640 03:05:09,613 --> 03:05:12,130 containers they will be 4641 03:05:12,916 --> 03:05:13,617 engaging with customers leaving 4642 03:05:13,617 --> 03:05:16,170 behind literature so customers 4643 03:05:16,453 --> 03:05:17,120 know how to order a second 4644 03:05:17,120 --> 03:05:17,821 container as well as if they 4645 03:05:17,821 --> 03:05:20,821 continue to see the lingering 4646 03:05:21,324 --> 03:05:21,892 black containers to remove 4647 03:05:21,892 --> 03:05:22,325 those and engage with 4648 03:05:22,325 --> 03:05:24,325 the customers. 4649 03:05:25,929 --> 03:05:26,630 So if they need to order 4650 03:05:26,630 --> 03:05:27,230 another one another gray one 4651 03:05:27,230 --> 03:05:30,634 they know how to do so. 4652 03:05:30,634 --> 03:05:31,301 We mentioned last JUNE that all 4653 03:05:31,301 --> 03:05:31,969 of the new containers become 4654 03:05:31,969 --> 03:05:34,369 equipped with rfid readers. 4655 03:05:35,773 --> 03:05:36,473 We are working on the next 4656 03:05:36,473 --> 03:05:37,174 stages of a pilot to test 4657 03:05:37,174 --> 03:05:40,174 the technology of the hardware 4658 03:05:40,944 --> 03:05:41,612 that will be attached to 4659 03:05:41,612 --> 03:05:42,345 the trucks and that hardware 4660 03:05:42,345 --> 03:05:45,345 when when installed would allow 4661 03:05:45,715 --> 03:05:46,416 us to collect operational data 4662 03:05:46,416 --> 03:05:49,416 to improve services over time 4663 03:05:50,190 --> 03:05:50,787 as well as identify containers 4664 03:05:50,787 --> 03:05:51,254 that are not where they are 4665 03:05:51,254 --> 03:05:51,889 supposed to be. 4666 03:05:51,889 --> 03:05:54,889 That's not the purpose of 4667 03:05:55,292 --> 03:05:56,610 today's item but we will you 4668 03:05:56,610 --> 03:05:56,827 can look forward to an item in 4669 03:05:56,827 --> 03:06:00,164 the coming weeks or so on on 4670 03:06:00,164 --> 03:06:00,931 that item. 4671 03:06:00,931 --> 03:06:04,531 The fee schedule I won't go 4672 03:06:04,868 --> 03:06:05,635 into too much detail. 4673 03:06:05,635 --> 03:06:06,336 We've presented this a couple 4674 03:06:06,336 --> 03:06:09,739 of weeks ago but I'll just 4675 03:06:09,739 --> 03:06:10,474 highlight for those present. 4676 03:06:10,474 --> 03:06:14,740 The second column are the fees 4677 03:06:14,277 --> 03:06:14,878 that go into effect JULY 1st, 4678 03:06:14,878 --> 03:06:15,846 2026 of this year. 4679 03:06:15,846 --> 03:06:18,482 You can see they are about a 4680 03:06:18,482 --> 03:06:22,820 dollar more for the three main 4681 03:06:22,186 --> 03:06:22,853 bundles but then I'll emphasize 4682 03:06:22,853 --> 03:06:23,554 the latter two columns Those 4683 03:06:23,554 --> 03:06:26,554 are the newly adopted reduced 4684 03:06:26,857 --> 03:06:27,324 fees for fiscal year 28 in 4685 03:06:27,324 --> 03:06:28,250 fiscal year 29. 4686 03:06:28,250 --> 03:06:31,362 And one thing in particular I 4687 03:06:31,362 --> 03:06:32,290 want to emphasize is 4688 03:06:32,290 --> 03:06:32,662 the because the reduced fees 4689 03:06:32,662 --> 03:06:35,620 are heavily subsidized by 4690 03:06:35,933 --> 03:06:36,633 the recycling fund. 4691 03:06:36,633 --> 03:06:37,401 The fee for an additional 4692 03:06:37,401 --> 03:06:40,401 recycling bin for fiscal year 4693 03:06:40,404 --> 03:06:43,404 28 goes down to $6.01 per month 4694 03:06:44,108 --> 03:06:44,642 for that fiscal year and then 4695 03:06:44,642 --> 03:06:45,276 $6.56 per month for 4696 03:06:45,276 --> 03:06:47,676 the following fiscal year. 4697 03:06:48,412 --> 03:06:49,790 And this is important to note 4698 03:06:49,790 --> 03:06:49,680 as some customers MAY have 4699 03:06:49,680 --> 03:06:51,680 ordered fewer recycling 4700 03:06:53,451 --> 03:06:53,818 containers anticipating weekly 4701 03:06:53,818 --> 03:06:54,718 recycling. 4702 03:06:54,718 --> 03:06:56,286 So I wanted to be sure to 4703 03:06:56,286 --> 03:06:59,286 amplify the subsidized rate for 4704 03:07:01,558 --> 03:07:02,626 a second recycling container. 4705 03:07:02,626 --> 03:07:06,226 This next slide as well we 4706 03:07:07,131 --> 03:07:07,832 presented a couple of weeks ago 4707 03:07:07,832 --> 03:07:08,132 at the adoption of the reduced 4708 03:07:08,132 --> 03:07:08,799 fees. 4709 03:07:08,799 --> 03:07:11,200 I'll just note a couple of 4710 03:07:11,200 --> 03:07:11,869 things. 4711 03:07:11,869 --> 03:07:14,869 One, the second row shows 4712 03:07:15,739 --> 03:07:16,440 the rate revenue. 4713 03:07:16,440 --> 03:07:17,141 So looking at the third column 4714 03:07:17,141 --> 03:07:20,678 you see the rate revenue goes 4715 03:07:20,678 --> 03:07:21,278 down significantly when 4716 03:07:21,278 --> 03:07:21,846 the fees are reduced. 4717 03:07:21,846 --> 03:07:22,279 The next two rows show 4718 03:07:22,279 --> 03:07:24,279 the subsidies. 4719 03:07:26,150 --> 03:07:26,818 So you see the estimated 4720 03:07:26,818 --> 03:07:27,118 subsidies from the recycling 4721 03:07:27,118 --> 03:07:29,118 fund. 4722 03:07:30,454 --> 03:07:31,155 And then the next row 4723 03:07:31,155 --> 03:07:31,456 the subsidies from the general 4724 03:07:31,456 --> 03:07:32,156 fund. 4725 03:07:32,156 --> 03:07:32,857 I'll note these are these are 4726 03:07:32,857 --> 03:07:35,257 estimates They will ultimately 4727 03:07:35,693 --> 03:07:36,427 be subject to the budgeting 4728 03:07:36,427 --> 03:07:37,610 process and actual expenditures 4729 03:07:37,610 --> 03:07:40,610 and revenues leading up to 4730 03:07:40,198 --> 03:07:40,831 those years. 4731 03:07:40,831 --> 03:07:41,666 And then lastly the fund 4732 03:07:41,666 --> 03:07:44,434 balance, you can see that we 4733 03:07:44,434 --> 03:07:45,200 are one of the anticipated 4734 03:07:45,200 --> 03:07:45,702 changes we made to our 4735 03:07:45,702 --> 03:07:48,702 operation based on the reduced 4736 03:07:53,711 --> 03:07:54,411 fees is not funding our to 4737 03:07:54,411 --> 03:07:55,346 build up our fund balance. 4738 03:07:55,346 --> 03:07:57,148 So you see if we remain in a 4739 03:07:57,148 --> 03:07:57,714 negative position through 4740 03:07:57,714 --> 03:08:00,114 the four year period. 4741 03:08:01,786 --> 03:08:02,486 So next steps is following up 4742 03:08:02,486 --> 03:08:03,187 the latter part of the hearing 4743 03:08:03,187 --> 03:08:06,591 on the adoption of the report 4744 03:08:06,591 --> 03:08:09,591 for the property tax bill 4745 03:08:10,940 --> 03:08:10,794 Following this item between now 4746 03:08:10,794 --> 03:08:11,529 and AUGUST 10th Mac will 4747 03:08:11,529 --> 03:08:13,929 continue to review applications 4748 03:08:14,431 --> 03:08:15,990 for fiscal Year 27 assistance. 4749 03:08:15,990 --> 03:08:15,833 For those who will see 4750 03:08:15,833 --> 03:08:19,103 the assistance in the form of a 4751 03:08:19,103 --> 03:08:19,804 credit on their tax bill and 4752 03:08:19,804 --> 03:08:20,538 then after AUGUST 10th they'll 4753 03:08:20,538 --> 03:08:22,938 continue to review applications 4754 03:08:24,750 --> 03:08:24,742 for rebate style And then by 4755 03:08:24,742 --> 03:08:25,476 AUGUST 10th if City Council 4756 03:08:25,476 --> 03:08:29,760 adopts the fee today the report 4757 03:08:29,247 --> 03:08:29,881 today rather by AUGUST 10th 4758 03:08:29,881 --> 03:08:30,615 will submit the report to 4759 03:08:30,615 --> 03:08:34,180 the county and then between MAY 4760 03:08:34,180 --> 03:08:34,585 and the SEPTEMBER will continue 4761 03:08:34,585 --> 03:08:37,585 the rollout of the new 4762 03:08:38,590 --> 03:08:39,390 recycling containers. 4763 03:08:39,390 --> 03:08:39,857 >> And thank you for your time 4764 03:08:39,857 --> 03:08:40,224 this afternoon. 4765 03:08:40,224 --> 03:08:40,925 All right. 4766 03:08:40,925 --> 03:08:42,861 Thank you for the work and 4767 03:08:42,861 --> 03:08:43,528 the presentation. 4768 03:08:43,528 --> 03:08:45,928 Deputy Clerk Please proceed 4769 03:08:48,650 --> 03:08:48,466 with public comment. 4770 03:08:48,466 --> 03:08:48,967 Thank you. 4771 03:08:48,967 --> 03:08:50,735 Council PRESIDENT. 4772 03:08:50,735 --> 03:08:51,202 We will begin with in-person 4773 03:08:51,202 --> 03:08:53,202 public comment. 4774 03:08:56,907 --> 03:08:57,242 Max Schmitt please come 4775 03:08:57,242 --> 03:08:59,100 forward. 4776 03:08:59,100 --> 03:09:02,100 You'll have two minutes to 4777 03:09:08,319 --> 03:09:08,622 speak. 4778 03:09:08,622 --> 03:09:09,554 Hi. 4779 03:09:09,554 --> 03:09:13,154 I just wanted to say that 4780 03:09:13,424 --> 03:09:15,824 increasing the fees increase 4781 03:09:17,329 --> 03:09:18,290 for the monthly fees that 4782 03:09:18,290 --> 03:09:21,290 homeowners pay for their trash 4783 03:09:22,734 --> 03:09:23,235 and recycling services to me 4784 03:09:23,235 --> 03:09:25,235 seems unnecessary. 4785 03:09:27,500 --> 03:09:27,772 I believe that homeowners 4786 03:09:27,772 --> 03:09:31,372 should not have to pay such 4787 03:09:31,575 --> 03:09:31,943 high fees for trash and 4788 03:09:31,943 --> 03:09:33,943 recycling. 4789 03:09:36,381 --> 03:09:37,810 I believe that if 4790 03:09:37,810 --> 03:09:37,815 the government was cut out of 4791 03:09:37,815 --> 03:09:40,815 the situation and the homeowner 4792 03:09:41,286 --> 03:09:44,286 could pay the trash or 4793 03:09:46,291 --> 03:09:46,792 recycling company directly, it 4794 03:09:46,792 --> 03:09:48,792 could be cheaper. 4795 03:09:50,562 --> 03:09:51,429 And I think that property taxes 4796 03:09:51,429 --> 03:09:55,290 could go down and I think 4797 03:09:55,567 --> 03:09:59,167 property taxes are too high for 4798 03:10:00,105 --> 03:10:00,805 people And I do not support 4799 03:10:00,805 --> 03:10:04,405 giving the city of San Diego 4800 03:10:05,411 --> 03:10:06,277 any more money. 4801 03:10:06,277 --> 03:10:06,612 And it has to do with many 4802 03:10:06,612 --> 03:10:08,612 reasons. 4803 03:10:10,348 --> 03:10:13,348 And one is because of 4804 03:10:15,190 --> 03:10:15,754 the underground hidden Catholic 4805 03:10:15,754 --> 03:10:16,221 genocide that needs that hasn't 4806 03:10:16,221 --> 03:10:18,221 been addressed. 4807 03:10:20,225 --> 03:10:21,260 And I just also wanted to say 4808 03:10:21,260 --> 03:10:24,796 that there's a one of the sides 4809 03:10:24,796 --> 03:10:28,396 and raised fees says that are 4810 03:10:28,767 --> 03:10:29,468 recycled containers are going 4811 03:10:29,468 --> 03:10:30,202 to be repurposed into other 4812 03:10:30,202 --> 03:10:33,202 plastic products and they tried 4813 03:10:33,939 --> 03:10:34,239 to make it an environmental 4814 03:10:34,239 --> 03:10:35,730 issue. 4815 03:10:35,730 --> 03:10:35,780 And I just wanted to say there 4816 03:10:35,780 --> 03:10:38,576 seems to be a connection and 4817 03:10:38,576 --> 03:10:39,278 random tax increases and trying 4818 03:10:39,278 --> 03:10:39,978 to help the environment where 4819 03:10:39,978 --> 03:10:43,578 it seems like an age old 4820 03:10:44,149 --> 03:10:44,783 liberal strategy straight out 4821 03:10:44,783 --> 03:10:45,417 of the liberal playbook to 4822 03:10:45,417 --> 03:10:48,417 throw in some slides about 4823 03:10:48,954 --> 03:10:49,654 the environment when they 4824 03:10:49,654 --> 03:10:50,388 increase, when they try to 4825 03:10:50,388 --> 03:10:53,625 increase taxes I'm going to say 4826 03:10:53,625 --> 03:10:54,592 this tax increase on property 4827 03:10:54,592 --> 03:10:55,193 is a big deal and that I don't 4828 03:10:55,193 --> 03:10:58,193 want the I don't think 4829 03:10:59,640 --> 03:10:59,764 the climate should be used as a 4830 03:10:59,764 --> 03:11:00,699 scapegoat to tax people more. 4831 03:11:00,699 --> 03:11:04,369 And I will honestly say that I 4832 03:11:04,369 --> 03:11:07,369 believe that Satan MAY be 4833 03:11:09,740 --> 03:11:09,774 telling liberals to exaggerate 4834 03:11:09,774 --> 03:11:10,175 the climate to try to tax 4835 03:11:10,175 --> 03:11:10,609 people more. 4836 03:11:10,609 --> 03:11:11,309 >> Thank you. 4837 03:11:11,309 --> 03:11:14,309 That does conclude your time. 4838 03:11:20,785 --> 03:11:21,586 Allegedly Audra definitely will 4839 03:11:21,586 --> 03:11:25,186 use the climate to tax people 4840 03:11:25,624 --> 03:11:26,425 more. 4841 03:11:26,425 --> 03:11:29,425 This is interesting Why does 4842 03:11:29,728 --> 03:11:30,229 the negative balance get 4843 03:11:30,229 --> 03:11:30,796 smaller to 2029? 4844 03:11:30,796 --> 03:11:31,664 >> That's interesting. 4845 03:11:31,664 --> 03:11:34,433 I don't know if I'm reading it 4846 03:11:34,433 --> 03:11:37,433 right and then saying there 4847 03:11:39,338 --> 03:11:39,638 will be reductions through that 4848 03:11:39,638 --> 03:11:40,406 year. 4849 03:11:40,406 --> 03:11:41,140 I mean really because I feel 4850 03:11:41,140 --> 03:11:43,975 like you guys are going to come 4851 03:11:43,975 --> 03:11:44,643 back to us for more money at 4852 03:11:44,643 --> 03:11:45,177 some point because it's not 4853 03:11:45,177 --> 03:11:45,844 going to be enough. 4854 03:11:45,844 --> 03:11:48,844 And again, you talk about 4855 03:11:49,149 --> 03:11:49,815 people receiving trash cans. 4856 03:11:49,815 --> 03:11:50,316 No, they're paying for them. 4857 03:11:50,316 --> 03:11:52,316 Let's be real. 4858 03:11:54,253 --> 03:11:54,987 They're forced to pay for those 4859 03:11:54,987 --> 03:11:55,721 even if they don't need them. 4860 03:11:55,721 --> 03:11:59,225 And the fact that you're saying 4861 03:11:59,225 --> 03:11:59,858 you're going to recycle them I 4862 03:11:59,858 --> 03:12:00,559 mean we'll see about that. 4863 03:12:00,559 --> 03:12:03,559 I'm sure that's another racket 4864 03:12:04,630 --> 03:12:04,696 that's going to be you know, 4865 03:12:04,696 --> 03:12:05,531 engaged in because I mean 4866 03:12:05,531 --> 03:12:08,467 anything you can make money off 4867 03:12:08,467 --> 03:12:08,767 of people are like jumping on 4868 03:12:08,767 --> 03:12:09,568 that. 4869 03:12:09,568 --> 03:12:13,338 So I guess I was a little 4870 03:12:13,338 --> 03:12:13,772 confused as well about Prop 218 4871 03:12:13,772 --> 03:12:14,473 unfortunately. 4872 03:12:14,473 --> 03:12:18,673 I guess it's like you guys can 4873 03:12:18,677 --> 03:12:19,545 sit here and raise the fee as 4874 03:12:19,545 --> 03:12:20,212 much as you want and as long as 4875 03:12:20,212 --> 03:12:23,212 nobody's here to protest it 4876 03:12:23,815 --> 03:12:24,516 doesn't matter Or so it's like 4877 03:12:24,516 --> 03:12:28,900 oh so many loopholes that you 4878 03:12:28,900 --> 03:12:31,900 know, get taken advantage of 4879 03:12:32,525 --> 03:12:33,226 when people are you know, 4880 03:12:33,226 --> 03:12:33,926 having to pay more money And 4881 03:12:33,926 --> 03:12:37,129 these rfid chips I mean come 4882 03:12:37,129 --> 03:12:37,597 on, You're like we're 4883 03:12:37,597 --> 03:12:38,230 collecting debt. 4884 03:12:38,230 --> 03:12:41,830 I mean the amount of data 4885 03:12:42,535 --> 03:12:43,268 that's collected on people is 4886 03:12:43,268 --> 03:12:44,300 just so insane, especially when 4887 03:12:44,300 --> 03:12:47,300 these data centers like they're 4888 03:12:47,807 --> 03:12:48,207 going to be taking all our 4889 03:12:48,207 --> 03:12:48,707 fresh water. 4890 03:12:48,707 --> 03:12:49,441 How cool is that? 4891 03:12:49,441 --> 03:12:52,479 I mean are you guys excited for 4892 03:12:52,479 --> 03:12:53,178 us to like figure out how ice 4893 03:12:53,178 --> 03:12:53,579 is going to provide us with 4894 03:12:53,579 --> 03:12:55,579 more water? 4895 03:12:56,782 --> 03:12:57,650 Probably that'll be neat. 4896 03:12:57,650 --> 03:13:01,521 But yeah, I just this is very 4897 03:13:01,521 --> 03:13:02,187 sad because people should have 4898 03:13:02,187 --> 03:13:05,787 the ability to say what they 4899 03:13:06,725 --> 03:13:07,426 want as far as the tax goes and 4900 03:13:07,426 --> 03:13:08,260 yet here we are again You're 4901 03:13:08,260 --> 03:13:08,728 not going to have enough 4902 03:13:08,728 --> 03:13:12,328 protests And so this is going 4903 03:13:12,431 --> 03:13:13,199 to move forward And I'd like to 4904 03:13:13,199 --> 03:13:13,866 know I mean what are you doing 4905 03:13:13,866 --> 03:13:16,866 Because this was the million 4906 03:13:17,102 --> 03:13:17,570 dollar lawsuit that made you 4907 03:13:17,570 --> 03:13:18,271 reduce the fee. 4908 03:13:18,271 --> 03:13:19,380 Are you going to give people a 4909 03:13:19,380 --> 03:13:22,274 credit for what they paid in 4910 03:13:22,274 --> 03:13:22,609 the interim of, you know, your 4911 03:13:22,609 --> 03:13:23,420 mistake? 4912 03:13:23,420 --> 03:13:23,743 >> Thank you. 4913 03:13:23,743 --> 03:13:26,743 That does conclude your time. 4914 03:13:27,513 --> 03:13:28,147 I have that That concludes 4915 03:13:28,147 --> 03:13:28,848 in-person public comment. 4916 03:13:28,848 --> 03:13:32,252 I have started the five minute 4917 03:13:32,252 --> 03:13:33,152 timer in the committee room. 4918 03:13:33,152 --> 03:13:35,855 We will now turn to the virtual 4919 03:13:35,855 --> 03:13:36,522 queue in which there are 4920 03:13:36,522 --> 03:13:37,560 currently three participants 4921 03:13:37,560 --> 03:13:39,560 requesting to speak. 4922 03:13:39,580 --> 03:13:42,580 We will begin with Hector. 4923 03:13:44,396 --> 03:13:44,898 Please begin. 4924 03:13:44,898 --> 03:13:45,565 Thanks guys. 4925 03:13:45,565 --> 03:13:48,565 Yeah this is a different 4926 03:13:49,269 --> 03:13:49,969 another example of a city not 4927 03:13:49,969 --> 03:13:52,969 knowing what's going on where 4928 03:13:53,673 --> 03:13:54,306 there was 2500 people getting 4929 03:13:54,306 --> 03:13:57,306 their trash picked up that 4930 03:13:58,377 --> 03:13:59,145 shouldn't have got it done. 4931 03:13:59,145 --> 03:13:59,846 So they just found that out 4932 03:13:59,846 --> 03:14:02,246 when they started doing 4933 03:14:03,717 --> 03:14:04,417 the cans taken up some guy's 4934 03:14:04,417 --> 03:14:07,220 apartment that should have had 4935 03:14:07,220 --> 03:14:07,987 a commercial guy doing it. 4936 03:14:07,987 --> 03:14:08,455 So this is probably not 4937 03:14:08,455 --> 03:14:09,550 the only thing. 4938 03:14:09,550 --> 03:14:11,455 There's other places in 4939 03:14:12,592 --> 03:14:13,259 the city where they're giving 4940 03:14:13,259 --> 03:14:16,259 out free services or they're 4941 03:14:17,697 --> 03:14:18,398 giving out special deals to 4942 03:14:18,398 --> 03:14:18,664 people that no one knows about 4943 03:14:18,664 --> 03:14:20,664 yet. 4944 03:14:22,680 --> 03:14:22,769 But this is another example. 4945 03:14:22,769 --> 03:14:26,369 And then to set the record 4946 03:14:26,806 --> 03:14:27,473 straight to build trust in 4947 03:14:27,473 --> 03:14:28,174 the community, why don't you 4948 03:14:28,174 --> 03:14:31,774 pull all the parking meters of 4949 03:14:32,245 --> 03:14:32,979 Balboa Park now so we can have 4950 03:14:32,979 --> 03:14:36,579 free parking over the summer to 4951 03:14:36,816 --> 03:14:37,584 go visit Balboa Park and stuff 4952 03:14:37,584 --> 03:14:41,654 That would be like show us a 4953 03:14:41,654 --> 03:14:42,880 good sign of building trust in 4954 03:14:42,880 --> 03:14:44,880 the community. 4955 03:14:46,326 --> 03:14:46,960 Just just apologize to 4956 03:14:46,960 --> 03:14:49,360 everybody for putting them 4957 03:14:50,797 --> 03:14:51,664 through And you want to start 4958 03:14:51,664 --> 03:14:55,864 you want to turn over a new 4959 03:14:55,902 --> 03:14:56,670 leaf and go for it and then 4960 03:14:56,670 --> 03:14:57,237 let's see there was one other 4961 03:14:57,237 --> 03:14:58,105 thing I wanted to do. 4962 03:14:58,105 --> 03:15:01,105 Yeah, you're going to charge 4963 03:15:01,608 --> 03:15:05,808 them for the Oh yeah, the solid 4964 03:15:07,800 --> 03:15:07,948 waste we got to get a solid 4965 03:15:07,948 --> 03:15:10,884 waste factory down the t on a 4966 03:15:10,884 --> 03:15:14,484 river and do some waste removal 4967 03:15:15,956 --> 03:15:16,556 down there and I think that 4968 03:15:16,556 --> 03:15:17,190 the city should focus on 4969 03:15:17,190 --> 03:15:20,190 the t12 river sewer plant 4970 03:15:20,961 --> 03:15:21,728 upgrades big time upgrade down 4971 03:15:21,728 --> 03:15:25,328 there with solar use some of 4972 03:15:26,333 --> 03:15:27,134 that recycle old stuff down 4973 03:15:27,134 --> 03:15:30,134 there that that absorb all 4974 03:15:31,805 --> 03:15:32,472 the sewer gas and everything 4975 03:15:32,472 --> 03:15:33,139 Anyway it's going to be it's 4976 03:15:33,139 --> 03:15:36,410 going to be a good summer. 4977 03:15:36,410 --> 03:15:37,143 It's going to be hot and that 4978 03:15:37,143 --> 03:15:40,143 stuff's going to smell terrible 4979 03:15:40,981 --> 03:15:41,748 for the kids. 4980 03:15:41,748 --> 03:15:42,249 So that's that's should be our 4981 03:15:42,249 --> 03:15:42,549 number one focus. 4982 03:15:42,549 --> 03:15:44,549 Okay. 4983 03:15:45,952 --> 03:15:46,320 Thank you. 4984 03:15:46,320 --> 03:15:47,287 Thank you. 4985 03:15:47,287 --> 03:15:50,887 We'll go to our next speaker 4986 03:15:51,725 --> 03:15:55,325 with a caller What the last 4987 03:16:01,340 --> 03:16:01,535 four digits 8700 Please begin. 4988 03:16:01,535 --> 03:16:03,535 Thank you, Joy. 4989 03:16:05,105 --> 03:16:05,605 Senator, I just have a bachelor 4990 03:16:05,605 --> 03:16:08,500 of Arts and ends. 4991 03:16:10,377 --> 03:16:10,943 Thank you for the update esd 4992 03:16:10,943 --> 03:16:11,311 Very very good update. 4993 03:16:11,311 --> 03:16:13,311 Thank you. 4994 03:16:15,449 --> 03:16:16,149 Also for our great financial 4995 03:16:16,149 --> 03:16:18,549 assistance program that you're 4996 03:16:19,986 --> 03:16:20,854 you've been rolling out. 4997 03:16:20,854 --> 03:16:23,854 It sounds very successful still 4998 03:16:25,292 --> 03:16:26,250 available and just thank you so 4999 03:16:26,250 --> 03:16:29,250 much I appreciate the recycling 5000 03:16:31,264 --> 03:16:32,132 of the container and I thank 5001 03:16:32,132 --> 03:16:35,732 you for improved line Thank you 5002 03:16:36,103 --> 03:16:36,803 everybody for improved 5003 03:16:36,803 --> 03:16:40,403 alignment with Measure b in a 5004 03:16:41,608 --> 03:16:42,275 question for you esd would you 5005 03:16:42,275 --> 03:16:44,675 and Director Kirby Brady 5006 03:16:47,214 --> 03:16:49,614 discuss adding qualitative data 5007 03:16:51,819 --> 03:16:52,586 to the metrics that would be 5008 03:16:52,586 --> 03:16:53,153 really super for you to explore 5009 03:16:53,153 --> 03:16:55,153 that innovative idea? 5010 03:16:57,224 --> 03:16:57,992 It's not really innovative. 5011 03:16:57,992 --> 03:16:58,726 It's being used throughout a 5012 03:16:58,726 --> 03:17:02,326 lot of other different areas in 5013 03:17:02,863 --> 03:17:03,163 government, in business and so 5014 03:17:03,163 --> 03:17:03,931 forth. 5015 03:17:03,931 --> 03:17:08,131 So let's see what is this We 5016 03:17:08,369 --> 03:17:09,690 can always improve customer 5017 03:17:09,690 --> 03:17:09,670 relations right and community 5018 03:17:09,670 --> 03:17:11,670 outreach and engagement. 5019 03:17:13,440 --> 03:17:14,108 So any efforts that you can 5020 03:17:14,108 --> 03:17:14,842 approve to make those better 5021 03:17:14,842 --> 03:17:17,842 would be absolutely super duper 5022 03:17:19,613 --> 03:17:20,314 love the customer donations. 5023 03:17:20,314 --> 03:17:22,714 >> Thank you Customers Whoever 5024 03:17:23,984 --> 03:17:24,719 you are you get five stars. 5025 03:17:24,719 --> 03:17:27,719 I think it's up to $67,000. 5026 03:17:29,423 --> 03:17:34,223 So thank you and thank you sd g 5027 03:17:34,695 --> 03:17:35,429 and e, I mean I don't get it 5028 03:17:35,429 --> 03:17:36,130 but if there's an opportunity 5029 03:17:36,130 --> 03:17:39,730 to thank them for caring about 5030 03:17:40,660 --> 03:17:40,834 the community, let's do it. 5031 03:17:40,834 --> 03:17:44,434 So their care program I guess 5032 03:17:45,940 --> 03:17:46,674 can be added to our quote They 5033 03:17:46,674 --> 03:17:47,375 can qualify if they qualify for 5034 03:17:47,375 --> 03:17:47,842 our programs that program can 5035 03:17:47,842 --> 03:17:50,242 be added to it. 5036 03:17:51,980 --> 03:17:52,847 So I feel really, really good 5037 03:17:52,847 --> 03:17:53,747 and I want to be sure and thank 5038 03:17:53,747 --> 03:17:57,347 them for any little steps big 5039 03:17:57,785 --> 03:17:58,652 steps. 5040 03:17:58,652 --> 03:17:59,253 We want some big steps if any. 5041 03:17:59,253 --> 03:18:02,253 But thank you for that. 5042 03:18:03,224 --> 03:18:03,825 And again this is a great item 5043 03:18:03,825 --> 03:18:06,225 We've made great project 5044 03:18:08,162 --> 03:18:08,562 progress lessons learned all 5045 03:18:08,562 --> 03:18:09,230 thank you. 5046 03:18:09,230 --> 03:18:12,230 Our next speaker is Toni. 5047 03:18:19,673 --> 03:18:20,374 Please begin your comments. 5048 03:18:20,374 --> 03:18:23,374 Toni please please unmute and 5049 03:18:25,513 --> 03:18:26,180 begin your comments. 5050 03:18:26,180 --> 03:18:26,848 >> Can you hear me? 5051 03:18:26,848 --> 03:18:27,347 Yes we can hear you. 5052 03:18:27,347 --> 03:18:29,347 Please begin. 5053 03:18:31,285 --> 03:18:32,153 Thank you. 5054 03:18:32,153 --> 03:18:32,487 Hey I am in support of this 5055 03:18:32,487 --> 03:18:34,487 measure. 5056 03:18:37,424 --> 03:18:38,292 I think that it's necessary. 5057 03:18:38,292 --> 03:18:38,860 I think we need to have some 5058 03:18:38,860 --> 03:18:41,260 type of crash service. 5059 03:18:42,530 --> 03:18:43,197 I would love to see putting in 5060 03:18:43,197 --> 03:18:43,798 more of an effort to create 5061 03:18:43,798 --> 03:18:44,665 some some conversations. 5062 03:18:44,665 --> 03:18:48,865 I know that we do have like 5063 03:18:49,360 --> 03:18:49,771 green compost at some areas 5064 03:18:49,771 --> 03:18:50,104 like the Mira mesa landfill for 5065 03:18:50,104 --> 03:18:50,871 example. 5066 03:18:50,871 --> 03:18:54,108 But I know that we don't have 5067 03:18:54,108 --> 03:18:54,742 any actual compost landfills 5068 03:18:54,742 --> 03:18:57,742 that are designed for like 5069 03:19:00,547 --> 03:19:01,248 biodegradable plates and cups 5070 03:19:01,248 --> 03:19:01,549 and utensils and things like 5071 03:19:01,549 --> 03:19:02,217 that. 5072 03:19:02,217 --> 03:19:05,817 Or please correct me if I'm 5073 03:19:06,870 --> 03:19:06,787 wrong whenever y'all respond to 5074 03:19:06,787 --> 03:19:07,489 these comments, please please 5075 03:19:07,489 --> 03:19:08,222 let me know if there is a 5076 03:19:08,222 --> 03:19:11,222 compostable site because as far 5077 03:19:11,392 --> 03:19:12,930 as I know like when you pick up 5078 03:19:12,930 --> 03:19:12,794 compostable plates or utensils 5079 03:19:12,794 --> 03:19:15,794 or whatever even napkins they 5080 03:19:17,499 --> 03:19:18,199 all say on the packaging itself 5081 03:19:18,199 --> 03:19:18,900 they say only it's only 5082 03:19:18,900 --> 03:19:21,300 disposable or only compostable 5083 03:19:23,571 --> 03:19:23,972 within compostable landfill 5084 03:19:23,972 --> 03:19:24,839 facilities. 5085 03:19:24,839 --> 03:19:29,577 I have not I don't know of any 5086 03:19:29,577 --> 03:19:30,345 that exist here in San Diego 5087 03:19:30,345 --> 03:19:31,110 and that would be a huge 5088 03:19:31,110 --> 03:19:31,712 incentive for people within 5089 03:19:31,712 --> 03:19:34,112 the sustainable community and 5090 03:19:35,983 --> 03:19:36,851 for waste at large. 5091 03:19:36,851 --> 03:19:37,519 If we can if we can eliminate 5092 03:19:37,519 --> 03:19:40,519 the mass amount of plastics 5093 03:19:42,570 --> 03:19:42,857 that we're using, we would be 5094 03:19:42,857 --> 03:19:43,558 so much better off if we could 5095 03:19:43,558 --> 03:19:46,558 create some type of ordinances 5096 03:19:47,696 --> 03:19:50,960 requiring packaging on foods 5097 03:19:52,968 --> 03:19:53,667 and on goods to use alternative 5098 03:19:53,667 --> 03:19:54,336 packaging because I mean we've 5099 03:19:54,336 --> 03:19:57,336 been beholden to the DuPont 5100 03:19:59,174 --> 03:19:59,841 monopoly on plastics for far 5101 03:19:59,841 --> 03:20:03,441 too long and there's way too 5102 03:20:04,379 --> 03:20:05,460 many alternatives that exist 5103 03:20:05,460 --> 03:20:07,446 for packaging including like 5104 03:20:10,919 --> 03:20:11,245 amp which has been declassified 5105 03:20:11,245 --> 03:20:11,787 . 5106 03:20:11,787 --> 03:20:12,253 It's now available for 5107 03:20:12,253 --> 03:20:14,253 commercial use. 5108 03:20:17,559 --> 03:20:18,427 It's now not scheduled as like 5109 03:20:18,427 --> 03:20:22,270 a narcotic as it previously was 5110 03:20:22,230 --> 03:20:26,340 as of 2019 the end of the first 5111 03:20:26,340 --> 03:20:26,734 Trump administration was one of 5112 03:20:26,734 --> 03:20:27,436 the things we did idly on his 5113 03:20:27,436 --> 03:20:30,436 way out legalizing hemp which 5114 03:20:32,306 --> 03:20:32,707 was super cool and really 5115 03:20:32,707 --> 03:20:33,408 unexpected. 5116 03:20:33,408 --> 03:20:33,775 >> Thank you Anyway, conclude 5117 03:20:33,775 --> 03:20:34,142 your time. 5118 03:20:34,142 --> 03:20:36,142 Thank you. 5119 03:20:38,680 --> 03:20:39,247 That concludes the public 5120 03:20:39,247 --> 03:20:39,614 testimony on item 330. 5121 03:20:39,614 --> 03:20:40,215 All right. 5122 03:20:40,215 --> 03:20:42,615 Thank you, Deputy Clerk. 5123 03:20:44,186 --> 03:20:44,853 A reminder this is an 5124 03:20:44,853 --> 03:20:45,554 information item No motions 5125 03:20:45,554 --> 03:20:46,288 required but I'll turn it over 5126 03:20:46,288 --> 03:20:49,288 to council member for questions 5127 03:20:49,758 --> 03:20:50,392 and comments and we'll start 5128 03:20:50,392 --> 03:20:51,590 with Councilmember Rivera. 5129 03:20:51,590 --> 03:20:51,727 Thank you, Health PRESIDENT. 5130 03:20:51,727 --> 03:20:54,127 Thanks for the presentation, 5131 03:20:55,731 --> 03:20:59,331 Jeremy and for all the work 5132 03:21:00,902 --> 03:21:01,502 that led up to this. 5133 03:21:01,502 --> 03:21:02,604 A couple of questions. 5134 03:21:02,604 --> 03:21:07,404 One and this is for you and or 5135 03:21:07,810 --> 03:21:08,410 Jordan the fund balance that 5136 03:21:08,410 --> 03:21:10,810 was was shown there. 5137 03:21:13,582 --> 03:21:17,182 What are the effects of that? 5138 03:21:19,488 --> 03:21:20,155 >> So when we think of 5139 03:21:20,155 --> 03:21:20,856 the question council member 5140 03:21:20,856 --> 03:21:21,457 when we crossed the threshold 5141 03:21:21,457 --> 03:21:22,124 of a fiscal year with a 5142 03:21:22,124 --> 03:21:25,124 negative balance we do have 5143 03:21:25,794 --> 03:21:26,595 the ability to pay that 5144 03:21:26,595 --> 03:21:30,195 enterprise fund a one day loan 5145 03:21:31,666 --> 03:21:32,368 to cross the threshold at a non 5146 03:21:32,368 --> 03:21:33,670 zero and then the first day of 5147 03:21:33,670 --> 03:21:33,368 the next fiscal year to pay it 5148 03:21:33,368 --> 03:21:35,368 back. 5149 03:21:38,273 --> 03:21:38,974 So there's an ability to cross 5150 03:21:38,974 --> 03:21:41,974 the fiscal year with negative 5151 03:21:43,745 --> 03:21:44,446 ultimately as we adopted 5152 03:21:44,446 --> 03:21:45,114 the fee last year the goal was 5153 03:21:45,114 --> 03:21:48,714 to build up a reserve fund. 5154 03:21:50,486 --> 03:21:51,185 We are postponing that at this 5155 03:21:51,185 --> 03:21:51,720 time but long term that is 5156 03:21:51,720 --> 03:21:52,388 something we can do. 5157 03:21:52,388 --> 03:21:53,880 Does it Ultimately we would 5158 03:21:53,880 --> 03:21:56,124 want to be in a position with 5159 03:21:56,124 --> 03:21:56,959 with a positive balance. 5160 03:21:56,959 --> 03:21:57,259 I turned over to Jordan to get 5161 03:21:57,259 --> 03:21:59,259 more. 5162 03:22:01,797 --> 03:22:02,466 Yeah, I mean it mostly did It 5163 03:22:02,466 --> 03:22:03,198 mostly starts to be a big 5164 03:22:03,198 --> 03:22:03,832 budgeting problem If you have a 5165 03:22:03,832 --> 03:22:07,269 lot of on balances with a 5166 03:22:07,269 --> 03:22:07,869 negative fund balance which is 5167 03:22:07,869 --> 03:22:08,604 why we typically try to 5168 03:22:08,604 --> 03:22:09,137 highlight these things if we're 5169 03:22:09,137 --> 03:22:11,537 seeing many of them. 5170 03:22:13,609 --> 03:22:14,342 Jeremy is correct as far as esd 5171 03:22:14,342 --> 03:22:14,977 goes because he is he also runs 5172 03:22:14,977 --> 03:22:15,277 two other large enterprise 5173 03:22:15,277 --> 03:22:17,277 funds. 5174 03:22:18,814 --> 03:22:19,515 They currently are projected to 5175 03:22:19,515 --> 03:22:20,182 have positive cash balances So 5176 03:22:20,182 --> 03:22:23,782 within esd you will be fine. 5177 03:22:24,820 --> 03:22:25,187 But again it's not a good 5178 03:22:25,187 --> 03:22:25,854 practice. 5179 03:22:25,854 --> 03:22:26,522 The original cost of service 5180 03:22:26,522 --> 03:22:29,522 did anticipate building up a 5181 03:22:32,127 --> 03:22:32,728 reserve over a number of years 5182 03:22:32,728 --> 03:22:33,396 in order to adjust to 5183 03:22:33,396 --> 03:22:34,950 fluctuations that MAY or MAY 5184 03:22:34,950 --> 03:22:34,564 not happen in between cost of 5185 03:22:34,564 --> 03:22:36,564 service studies. 5186 03:22:37,466 --> 03:22:38,660 But at this point right now 5187 03:22:38,660 --> 03:22:38,701 given where we are with 5188 03:22:38,701 --> 03:22:39,435 the fees, the settlements, 5189 03:22:39,435 --> 03:22:43,350 etc., the best course of action 5190 03:22:43,138 --> 03:22:43,806 at this point is just to manage 5191 03:22:43,806 --> 03:22:44,373 the fund where it is because 5192 03:22:44,373 --> 03:22:46,773 otherwise you would be 5193 03:22:49,440 --> 03:22:49,712 requiring the general fund to 5194 03:22:49,712 --> 03:22:50,446 be spending more money into 5195 03:22:50,446 --> 03:22:51,800 the fund in order to try to get 5196 03:22:51,800 --> 03:22:54,800 out of that negative fund 5197 03:22:54,817 --> 03:22:55,351 balance quicker than what's 5198 03:22:55,351 --> 03:22:55,651 currently projected. 5199 03:22:55,651 --> 03:22:57,651 Right. 5200 03:23:00,989 --> 03:23:01,659 Okay. 5201 03:23:01,659 --> 03:23:02,525 And I'll note too. 5202 03:23:02,525 --> 03:23:06,125 So originally the plan was for 5203 03:23:07,129 --> 03:23:07,830 the fund to Jeremy correct me 5204 03:23:07,830 --> 03:23:08,630 if I'm wrong it would have 5205 03:23:08,630 --> 03:23:11,630 gotten out of negative balance 5206 03:23:12,869 --> 03:23:13,202 around what your 2 or 3? 5207 03:23:13,202 --> 03:23:13,502 Correct. 5208 03:23:13,502 --> 03:23:14,137 Yeah. 5209 03:23:14,137 --> 03:23:14,570 So there was a plan to get 5210 03:23:14,570 --> 03:23:15,303 there for it. 5211 03:23:15,303 --> 03:23:17,506 This might have just been 5212 03:23:17,506 --> 03:23:19,506 changed. 5213 03:23:23,450 --> 03:23:25,450 Okay. 5214 03:23:29,719 --> 03:23:30,586 Will it be a problem? 5215 03:23:30,586 --> 03:23:31,320 It would it would be a bigger 5216 03:23:31,320 --> 03:23:31,854 problem if the fund balance was 5217 03:23:31,854 --> 03:23:34,254 going the other way. 5218 03:23:34,891 --> 03:23:35,558 So one of the reasons why 5219 03:23:35,558 --> 03:23:36,224 you're actually seeing that 5220 03:23:36,224 --> 03:23:39,824 going into a but it's going 5221 03:23:41,640 --> 03:23:41,797 smaller is because a lot of 5222 03:23:41,797 --> 03:23:42,398 that is the general fund paying 5223 03:23:42,398 --> 03:23:45,100 back for costs that were 5224 03:23:45,100 --> 03:23:45,701 incurred but not reimbursed in 5225 03:23:45,701 --> 03:23:46,335 the first year If it was 5226 03:23:46,335 --> 03:23:47,360 getting larger perpetually 5227 03:23:47,360 --> 03:23:50,636 larger that would be a problem 5228 03:23:51,608 --> 03:23:52,375 that you would see because then 5229 03:23:52,375 --> 03:23:53,750 you don't have a plan at which 5230 03:23:53,750 --> 03:23:56,980 you there would be no plan in 5231 03:23:56,980 --> 03:23:57,746 order to to bring it back in at 5232 03:23:57,746 --> 03:23:58,448 that point you would need to 5233 03:23:58,448 --> 03:23:59,147 start taking financial actions 5234 03:23:59,147 --> 03:24:02,747 to bring it back into positive 5235 03:24:03,486 --> 03:24:04,120 balance which would either 5236 03:24:04,120 --> 03:24:04,821 require more general fund 5237 03:24:04,821 --> 03:24:05,455 subsidies or higher fees and a 5238 03:24:05,455 --> 03:24:07,855 subsequent cost of service 5239 03:24:09,893 --> 03:24:10,259 study. 5240 03:24:10,259 --> 03:24:10,926 Thank you. 5241 03:24:10,926 --> 03:24:11,794 We've talked about this a 5242 03:24:11,794 --> 03:24:15,464 little bit but I want to make 5243 03:24:15,464 --> 03:24:15,832 sure I drill down just a little 5244 03:24:15,832 --> 03:24:17,832 bit more. 5245 03:24:21,703 --> 03:24:22,405 Some of services that are 5246 03:24:22,405 --> 03:24:25,405 provided or planned to be 5247 03:24:28,444 --> 03:24:28,911 provided are now that the plan 5248 03:24:28,911 --> 03:24:30,911 is scaled back. 5249 03:24:32,982 --> 03:24:33,749 Are there and there's 5250 03:24:33,749 --> 03:24:36,749 the services that residents can 5251 03:24:38,855 --> 03:24:39,522 receive and experience as a 5252 03:24:39,522 --> 03:24:40,223 result of those operations. 5253 03:24:40,223 --> 03:24:43,223 And then there's the diversion 5254 03:24:44,861 --> 03:24:45,562 from our landfill. 5255 03:24:45,562 --> 03:24:47,962 There's climate action goals 5256 03:24:50,900 --> 03:24:51,768 that we're pursuing. 5257 03:24:51,768 --> 03:24:55,968 Are there plans in place or is 5258 03:24:56,206 --> 03:24:58,606 there planning happening to 5259 03:25:02,979 --> 03:25:03,780 pursue those goals to reduce 5260 03:25:03,780 --> 03:25:04,447 what ends up in the landfill in 5261 03:25:04,447 --> 03:25:08,470 a different way than what we 5262 03:25:08,685 --> 03:25:09,860 we'd planned for? 5263 03:25:09,860 --> 03:25:09,785 >> Yes. 5264 03:25:09,785 --> 03:25:10,520 Councilmember one One example 5265 03:25:10,520 --> 03:25:14,120 is investment of some of our 5266 03:25:15,559 --> 03:25:16,159 recycling staff from our waste 5267 03:25:16,159 --> 03:25:18,559 reduction division to be 5268 03:25:21,131 --> 03:25:21,932 stopped at the landfill itself 5269 03:25:21,932 --> 03:25:22,799 at the gate that help identify 5270 03:25:22,799 --> 03:25:26,399 loads of waste that is heading 5271 03:25:27,404 --> 03:25:28,138 towards the face of 5272 03:25:28,138 --> 03:25:28,704 the landfill but to engage with 5273 03:25:28,704 --> 03:25:31,104 them to divert what's 5274 03:25:33,777 --> 03:25:34,611 recyclable from that load. 5275 03:25:34,611 --> 03:25:35,245 >> Additionally, as I mentioned 5276 03:25:35,245 --> 03:25:37,645 in my remarks, additional 5277 03:25:39,516 --> 03:25:40,183 outreach to help customers 5278 03:25:40,183 --> 03:25:43,183 understand that for a second 5279 03:25:45,210 --> 03:25:45,689 recycling container is more 5280 03:25:45,689 --> 03:25:46,356 affordable than it was last 5281 03:25:46,356 --> 03:25:46,657 year and make sure they know 5282 03:25:46,657 --> 03:25:48,657 that. 5283 03:25:50,594 --> 03:25:51,328 So if they need to order a 5284 03:25:51,328 --> 03:25:52,620 second recycling container they 5285 03:25:52,620 --> 03:25:52,362 can do so at a subsidized rate. 5286 03:25:52,362 --> 03:25:54,362 Okay. 5287 03:25:57,567 --> 03:25:58,267 I appreciate that And 5288 03:25:58,267 --> 03:25:59,200 the reason I keep asking what 5289 03:25:59,200 --> 03:25:59,703 this part is and we're going to 5290 03:25:59,703 --> 03:26:02,103 continue our conversations at 5291 03:26:02,772 --> 03:26:03,473 this environment committee and 5292 03:26:03,473 --> 03:26:06,473 hopefully at the full council 5293 03:26:08,712 --> 03:26:09,613 is the closure of the landfill 5294 03:26:09,613 --> 03:26:09,980 is it's not a small deal for 5295 03:26:09,980 --> 03:26:11,980 the city. 5296 03:26:13,483 --> 03:26:14,840 It's a really, really big one 5297 03:26:14,840 --> 03:26:14,984 on a variety of fronts. 5298 03:26:14,984 --> 03:26:19,589 And so I want to make sure that 5299 03:26:19,589 --> 03:26:20,590 we're doing everything we can 5300 03:26:20,590 --> 03:26:22,659 to push that out or at least 5301 03:26:22,659 --> 03:26:25,659 not accelerate cliff that we're 5302 03:26:29,366 --> 03:26:29,733 running toward. 5303 03:26:29,733 --> 03:26:31,733 Okay. 5304 03:26:35,500 --> 03:26:35,806 Is there anything that you are 5305 03:26:35,806 --> 03:26:39,406 not planning to do but you 5306 03:26:40,411 --> 03:26:44,611 would like to be able to do 5307 03:26:47,851 --> 03:26:48,585 that doesn't involve the weekly 5308 03:26:48,585 --> 03:26:49,119 recycling or something that was 5309 03:26:49,119 --> 03:26:49,753 already planned for? 5310 03:26:49,753 --> 03:26:50,353 I don't know if that makes 5311 03:26:50,353 --> 03:26:53,353 sense Or are there other 5312 03:26:53,357 --> 03:26:54,240 strategies or tactics that are 5313 03:26:54,240 --> 03:26:54,624 being considered as a way of 5314 03:26:54,624 --> 03:26:56,693 again either pushing out 5315 03:26:56,693 --> 03:26:57,594 the cliff or at least not 5316 03:26:57,594 --> 03:26:59,994 accelerating our approach to 5317 03:27:09,340 --> 03:27:10,107 the cliff? 5318 03:27:10,107 --> 03:27:13,107 The clean up division helps 5319 03:27:15,179 --> 03:27:15,779 with some of the community 5320 03:27:15,779 --> 03:27:16,479 cleanup events that is a 5321 03:27:16,479 --> 03:27:17,114 general fund funded division. 5322 03:27:17,114 --> 03:27:20,714 So to the extent that that 5323 03:27:21,152 --> 03:27:21,819 division had more funding 5324 03:27:21,819 --> 03:27:22,553 available they could be more 5325 03:27:22,553 --> 03:27:25,553 available to do those community 5326 03:27:26,857 --> 03:27:27,524 cleanups And when our staff are 5327 03:27:27,524 --> 03:27:28,259 directly involved in cleanup 5328 03:27:28,259 --> 03:27:28,959 events it's easier to divert to 5329 03:27:28,959 --> 03:27:30,959 separate segregate recyclable 5330 03:27:33,464 --> 03:27:34,164 materials versus materials that 5331 03:27:34,164 --> 03:27:34,498 are intended for the landfill 5332 03:27:34,498 --> 03:27:34,798 itself. 5333 03:27:34,798 --> 03:27:35,599 Yeah. 5334 03:27:35,599 --> 03:27:39,103 And just to kind of give it to 5335 03:27:39,103 --> 03:27:43,303 you if you can to reiterate to 5336 03:27:44,675 --> 03:27:45,375 all of us from a financial 5337 03:27:45,375 --> 03:27:48,375 perspective the impacts of are 5338 03:27:50,247 --> 03:27:50,948 closing sooner rather than 5339 03:27:50,948 --> 03:27:51,315 later or being able to push 5340 03:27:51,315 --> 03:27:52,182 that out. 5341 03:27:52,182 --> 03:27:55,782 >> I mean it's hard to quantify 5342 03:27:57,355 --> 03:27:58,122 at this point But I will tell 5343 03:27:58,122 --> 03:27:58,722 you as is so Miramar as it 5344 03:27:58,722 --> 03:28:01,122 stands right now is 5345 03:28:02,960 --> 03:28:03,694 the cheapest place to deposit 5346 03:28:03,694 --> 03:28:04,227 solid waste and go to recycling 5347 03:28:04,227 --> 03:28:04,828 to do those things. 5348 03:28:04,828 --> 03:28:07,828 And the reason why it's 5349 03:28:08,632 --> 03:28:09,166 the cheapest is because it's 5350 03:28:09,166 --> 03:28:09,466 managed by the city. 5351 03:28:09,466 --> 03:28:10,267 Right. 5352 03:28:10,267 --> 03:28:10,968 So this would be similar to you 5353 03:28:10,968 --> 03:28:14,739 know, if the city was able to 5354 03:28:14,739 --> 03:28:15,473 manage its water to a 5355 03:28:15,473 --> 03:28:16,173 wholesaler as opposed to having 5356 03:28:16,173 --> 03:28:16,773 a different entity charge you 5357 03:28:16,773 --> 03:28:19,173 to do different things. 5358 03:28:21,110 --> 03:28:21,712 So to that end, if Miramar goes 5359 03:28:21,712 --> 03:28:22,446 away as being the place where 5360 03:28:22,446 --> 03:28:26,460 waste could go to be deposited 5361 03:28:26,884 --> 03:28:27,451 and the city does have to start 5362 03:28:27,451 --> 03:28:28,151 going to other private 5363 03:28:28,151 --> 03:28:31,151 landfills which I believe it's 5364 03:28:32,223 --> 03:28:32,957 only private landfills that are 5365 03:28:32,957 --> 03:28:33,624 remaining in the county At that 5366 03:28:33,624 --> 03:28:37,224 point you now have to pay 5367 03:28:37,962 --> 03:28:38,662 either their disposal fees 5368 03:28:38,662 --> 03:28:39,397 which will make the cost for 5369 03:28:39,397 --> 03:28:40,131 collection services go up which 5370 03:28:40,131 --> 03:28:43,131 will then require either higher 5371 03:28:43,701 --> 03:28:44,302 fees on homeowners or 5372 03:28:44,302 --> 03:28:44,635 additional general fund 5373 03:28:44,635 --> 03:28:45,336 dollars. 5374 03:28:45,336 --> 03:28:48,936 There's also the options to do 5375 03:28:50,575 --> 03:28:51,208 the transfer station But again 5376 03:28:51,208 --> 03:28:51,876 the transfer station just 5377 03:28:51,876 --> 03:28:52,443 because it's extra steps it 5378 03:28:52,443 --> 03:28:54,843 could be cheaper than 5379 03:28:56,146 --> 03:28:56,848 the landfills directly but it 5380 03:28:56,848 --> 03:28:57,548 still would not be the same as 5381 03:28:57,548 --> 03:28:58,249 just being able to utilize me 5382 03:28:58,249 --> 03:29:01,849 or mine the way it's currently 5383 03:29:02,987 --> 03:29:03,855 being utilized. 5384 03:29:03,855 --> 03:29:04,422 >> And then there's the tipping 5385 03:29:04,422 --> 03:29:07,422 fees that we want And 5386 03:29:08,960 --> 03:29:09,694 the tipping fee is what you for 5387 03:29:09,694 --> 03:29:10,395 collection services Even though 5388 03:29:10,395 --> 03:29:11,950 it's city of San Diego dumping 5389 03:29:11,950 --> 03:29:15,650 a city San Diego site pays to 5390 03:29:15,650 --> 03:29:15,767 dump at the Miramar land 5391 03:29:15,767 --> 03:29:16,434 tipping fees that we received 5392 03:29:16,434 --> 03:29:16,867 from from other entities as 5393 03:29:16,867 --> 03:29:18,867 well correct? 5394 03:29:20,104 --> 03:29:20,839 >> So yeah so those will come 5395 03:29:20,839 --> 03:29:21,439 up We'll have to figure out a 5396 03:29:21,439 --> 03:29:22,400 way to run the landfill. 5397 03:29:22,400 --> 03:29:24,440 One landfills run other 5398 03:29:26,310 --> 03:29:27,440 operations without receiving 5399 03:29:27,440 --> 03:29:27,745 tipping fees both from the city 5400 03:29:27,745 --> 03:29:28,346 of San Diego and from outside 5401 03:29:28,346 --> 03:29:29,800 entities as well because 5402 03:29:29,800 --> 03:29:32,584 they'll no longer be a landfill 5403 03:29:32,584 --> 03:29:33,418 to operate. 5404 03:29:33,418 --> 03:29:34,850 I appreciate this and I know 5405 03:29:34,850 --> 03:29:34,785 we've talked to this a bit. 5406 03:29:34,785 --> 03:29:38,385 I just I keep hammering this 5407 03:29:38,388 --> 03:29:39,230 part because I think there was 5408 03:29:39,230 --> 03:29:39,690 a perception that we could 5409 03:29:39,690 --> 03:29:43,290 recycling was a nice to have 5410 03:29:44,896 --> 03:29:45,497 and I suppose it was from a 5411 03:29:45,497 --> 03:29:46,197 perspective of it's not 5412 03:29:46,197 --> 03:29:49,197 something that the city needed 5413 03:29:51,202 --> 03:29:51,903 to do today necessarily and 5414 03:29:51,903 --> 03:29:52,604 it's not necessarily something 5415 03:29:52,604 --> 03:29:53,271 that residents all needed on a 5416 03:29:53,271 --> 03:29:56,871 weekly basis but it served a 5417 03:29:56,874 --> 03:29:57,575 greater purpose that has 5418 03:29:57,575 --> 03:29:59,575 significant environmental and 5419 03:30:02,413 --> 03:30:02,947 economic impacts for the city 5420 03:30:02,947 --> 03:30:03,715 over the long term. 5421 03:30:03,715 --> 03:30:07,315 And so as with everything that 5422 03:30:08,253 --> 03:30:09,540 we deal with, there are no easy 5423 03:30:09,540 --> 03:30:12,654 outs And you know, not doing 5424 03:30:14,893 --> 03:30:15,593 weekly recycling solves for one 5425 03:30:15,593 --> 03:30:16,294 problem and it creates others 5426 03:30:16,294 --> 03:30:16,995 as well And we just need to be 5427 03:30:16,995 --> 03:30:19,995 eyes wide open about that. 5428 03:30:21,320 --> 03:30:21,933 And I appreciate the creativity 5429 03:30:21,933 --> 03:30:26,538 of of esd on how we're going to 5430 03:30:26,538 --> 03:30:27,471 approach that. 5431 03:30:27,471 --> 03:30:27,905 I think it's going to require a 5432 03:30:27,905 --> 03:30:28,773 group effort. 5433 03:30:28,773 --> 03:30:32,677 I remember a few years ago I 5434 03:30:32,677 --> 03:30:33,411 asked the ways in which in my 5435 03:30:33,411 --> 03:30:37,110 mail services was kind of boxed 5436 03:30:38,517 --> 03:30:39,284 in by not being able to recover 5437 03:30:39,284 --> 03:30:39,985 cost And I actually got a 5438 03:30:39,985 --> 03:30:40,619 really interesting response to 5439 03:30:40,619 --> 03:30:43,619 that question which was in 5440 03:30:45,757 --> 03:30:46,458 certain ways requires the city 5441 03:30:46,458 --> 03:30:49,458 to be more creative because 5442 03:30:50,995 --> 03:30:51,596 there the ability to recover 5443 03:30:51,596 --> 03:30:52,331 costs just wasn't there. 5444 03:30:52,331 --> 03:30:52,898 And so it looks like you're 5445 03:30:52,898 --> 03:30:55,298 leaning back into that 5446 03:30:57,268 --> 03:30:57,736 creativity that we needed to 5447 03:30:57,736 --> 03:30:58,403 use in the past. 5448 03:30:58,403 --> 03:31:01,403 But the General General Fund 5449 03:31:06,912 --> 03:31:07,679 still has in a period 5450 03:31:07,679 --> 03:31:08,146 significant costs I think as a 5451 03:31:08,146 --> 03:31:08,881 result of this. 5452 03:31:08,881 --> 03:31:12,184 Last thing I want to say is 5453 03:31:12,184 --> 03:31:12,851 thank you again for 5454 03:31:12,851 --> 03:31:13,551 the outreach and the really 5455 03:31:13,551 --> 03:31:16,551 intentional effort there to to 5456 03:31:18,189 --> 03:31:18,990 make sure that folks know about 5457 03:31:18,990 --> 03:31:19,558 know about the rebate or 5458 03:31:19,558 --> 03:31:21,958 the refund programs or 5459 03:31:24,763 --> 03:31:25,530 the discount programs. 5460 03:31:25,530 --> 03:31:26,297 That was very important to us. 5461 03:31:26,297 --> 03:31:29,897 That was important to us before 5462 03:31:31,470 --> 03:31:32,171 we ever got to the program up 5463 03:31:32,171 --> 03:31:32,871 and running and will continue 5464 03:31:32,871 --> 03:31:33,438 to be important to me as well. 5465 03:31:33,438 --> 03:31:33,808 So thank you again for 5466 03:31:33,808 --> 03:31:35,808 the work. 5467 03:31:37,276 --> 03:31:37,776 Thank you for the time. 5468 03:31:37,776 --> 03:31:38,143 Council PRESIDENT. 5469 03:31:38,143 --> 03:31:38,744 All right. 5470 03:31:38,744 --> 03:31:39,111 Thank you, Councilmember 5471 03:31:39,111 --> 03:31:39,812 Talavera. 5472 03:31:39,812 --> 03:31:40,242 We'll go next to Councilmember 5473 03:31:40,242 --> 03:31:42,242 Moreno. 5474 03:31:42,380 --> 03:31:42,881 Thank you And thank you for 5475 03:31:42,881 --> 03:31:43,649 the presentation. 5476 03:31:43,649 --> 03:31:47,849 I want to start off by thinking 5477 03:31:48,186 --> 03:31:48,888 of the environmental Services 5478 03:31:48,888 --> 03:31:49,587 Department for the incredible 5479 03:31:49,587 --> 03:31:53,787 work you guys do day in, day 5480 03:31:54,960 --> 03:31:55,627 out This past MARCH I had 5481 03:31:55,627 --> 03:31:56,428 the pleasure of joining city 5482 03:31:56,428 --> 03:32:00,628 staff for a ride along during a 5483 03:32:01,660 --> 03:32:01,666 trash pickup day in District 5484 03:32:01,666 --> 03:32:05,866 eight and the A.T.M. At 5485 03:32:05,904 --> 03:32:06,238 the Miramar Landfill Operations 5486 03:32:06,238 --> 03:32:07,720 station. 5487 03:32:07,720 --> 03:32:10,720 Pretty impressive piece of work 5488 03:32:12,244 --> 03:32:12,678 that we have there in the city 5489 03:32:12,678 --> 03:32:13,245 of San Diego. 5490 03:32:13,245 --> 03:32:16,245 I think the yard has 5491 03:32:17,849 --> 03:32:18,517 the collection services, 5492 03:32:18,517 --> 03:32:19,850 the division, the container 5493 03:32:19,850 --> 03:32:21,850 management program and 5494 03:32:23,589 --> 03:32:24,890 the trash pickup for truck 5495 03:32:24,890 --> 03:32:24,857 maintenance crews. 5496 03:32:24,857 --> 03:32:27,857 We exited the operation station 5497 03:32:30,228 --> 03:32:30,963 and what really astounded me 5498 03:32:30,963 --> 03:32:34,563 was the hundreds of trucks that 5499 03:32:36,135 --> 03:32:36,902 are housed at the station just 5500 03:32:36,902 --> 03:32:37,602 and just how everybody left in 5501 03:32:37,602 --> 03:32:38,269 just it was almost like a 5502 03:32:38,269 --> 03:32:40,669 beautiful symphony of trash 5503 03:32:43,175 --> 03:32:43,809 trucks going out And I was able 5504 03:32:43,809 --> 03:32:47,409 to ride one of the trucks 5505 03:32:48,581 --> 03:32:49,115 driven by MR. Enrique Rojas, 5506 03:32:49,115 --> 03:32:49,882 also known as Kiki. 5507 03:32:49,882 --> 03:32:50,650 MR. Rojas has been a sanitation 5508 03:32:50,650 --> 03:32:54,250 worker for the city of San 5509 03:32:54,620 --> 03:32:55,387 Diego for almost 40 years and 5510 03:32:55,387 --> 03:32:59,587 he was kind enough to share his 5511 03:33:00,492 --> 03:33:01,193 experience with me as we drove 5512 03:33:01,193 --> 03:33:01,627 south to the southern part of 5513 03:33:01,627 --> 03:33:03,627 the district. 5514 03:33:05,731 --> 03:33:06,499 And one of the things that I 5515 03:33:06,499 --> 03:33:10,699 was just taken aback by is that 5516 03:33:11,804 --> 03:33:12,471 these folks are really 5517 03:33:12,471 --> 03:33:13,172 sometimes for a lot of 5518 03:33:13,172 --> 03:33:15,572 residents their number one 5519 03:33:16,675 --> 03:33:17,376 people rate the number one 5520 03:33:17,376 --> 03:33:20,376 person that they first connect 5521 03:33:21,981 --> 03:33:22,682 with in the city of San Diego. 5522 03:33:22,682 --> 03:33:23,416 The love and admiration from 5523 03:33:23,416 --> 03:33:27,160 the kids was also really quite 5524 03:33:29,870 --> 03:33:29,889 impressive And MR. Rojas just 5525 03:33:29,889 --> 03:33:34,890 really went out of his way to 5526 03:33:34,694 --> 03:33:35,128 accommodate every question, 5527 03:33:35,128 --> 03:33:35,962 every comment. 5528 03:33:35,962 --> 03:33:40,162 So just kudos to him and I'm 5529 03:33:41,701 --> 03:33:42,368 sure I was probably a thorn on 5530 03:33:42,368 --> 03:33:43,169 his back for the morning But 5531 03:33:43,169 --> 03:33:46,769 nonetheless it was it was quite 5532 03:33:47,240 --> 03:33:48,410 the experience. 5533 03:33:48,410 --> 03:33:51,641 We were in the community of 5534 03:33:53,680 --> 03:33:54,447 Nestor and unbeknownst to me we 5535 03:33:54,447 --> 03:33:55,114 were for a time we were being 5536 03:33:55,114 --> 03:33:57,514 followed by another vehicle 5537 03:33:59,485 --> 03:33:59,886 that was collecting the empty 5538 03:33:59,886 --> 03:34:00,553 containers. 5539 03:34:00,553 --> 03:34:04,153 So this allowed me to see 5540 03:34:04,991 --> 03:34:05,625 firsthand just 5541 03:34:05,625 --> 03:34:06,292 the complications of this 5542 03:34:06,292 --> 03:34:09,892 rollout of such a just a 5543 03:34:11,130 --> 03:34:11,864 massive scale But it was 5544 03:34:11,864 --> 03:34:12,532 impressive to see how you know, 5545 03:34:12,532 --> 03:34:13,199 obviously they work together 5546 03:34:13,199 --> 03:34:16,199 and and how complicated this 5547 03:34:16,668 --> 03:34:17,637 endeavor was Truly complicated. 5548 03:34:17,637 --> 03:34:21,237 My ride along ended with with 5549 03:34:22,842 --> 03:34:23,543 the Otay landfill in Chula 5550 03:34:23,543 --> 03:34:24,243 Vista and just the impressive 5551 03:34:24,243 --> 03:34:27,843 work that goes there I believe 5552 03:34:28,848 --> 03:34:29,282 it's owned by Republic if I'm 5553 03:34:29,282 --> 03:34:30,830 not mistaken. 5554 03:34:30,830 --> 03:34:34,283 So I was able to see firsthand 5555 03:34:35,555 --> 03:34:36,256 what the esd men and women do 5556 03:34:36,256 --> 03:34:36,923 daily and it's just incredible 5557 03:34:36,923 --> 03:34:39,923 to witness the magnitude of 5558 03:34:40,627 --> 03:34:41,426 work that happens behind 5559 03:34:41,426 --> 03:34:42,950 the scenes of a service that I 5560 03:34:42,950 --> 03:34:42,795 think often goes unnoticed. 5561 03:34:42,795 --> 03:34:45,795 So I'm just extremely grateful 5562 03:34:48,168 --> 03:34:48,868 to all the sd everybody in sd 5563 03:34:48,868 --> 03:34:49,435 because I know it's not just 5564 03:34:49,435 --> 03:34:51,835 the folks speaking up. 5565 03:34:53,239 --> 03:34:53,606 It's like I said, it's like a 5566 03:34:53,606 --> 03:34:54,307 symphony. 5567 03:34:54,307 --> 03:34:57,907 It was grueling and it was 5568 03:34:59,120 --> 03:34:59,812 demanding just but the one 5569 03:34:59,812 --> 03:35:04,120 thing that it was very clear to 5570 03:35:04,450 --> 03:35:09,250 me is it's so it's such a it's 5571 03:35:11,324 --> 03:35:12,250 such a it's something like I 5572 03:35:12,250 --> 03:35:12,759 said that we don't think about 5573 03:35:12,759 --> 03:35:13,360 And thanks to you guys we don't 5574 03:35:13,360 --> 03:35:16,360 have to think about it. 5575 03:35:16,429 --> 03:35:16,963 It's just so invaluable to 5576 03:35:16,963 --> 03:35:17,663 the quality of life. 5577 03:35:17,663 --> 03:35:20,663 I quickly understood if these 5578 03:35:22,702 --> 03:35:23,570 men and women decide not to 5579 03:35:23,570 --> 03:35:24,304 show up one day or even two it 5580 03:35:24,304 --> 03:35:27,304 would just be super detrimental 5581 03:35:28,208 --> 03:35:28,975 to the city workers. 5582 03:35:28,975 --> 03:35:29,676 So just wanted to say recognize 5583 03:35:29,676 --> 03:35:32,676 them and thank them for 5584 03:35:33,647 --> 03:35:34,514 everything that they do. 5585 03:35:34,514 --> 03:35:37,514 Moving on to the updates 5586 03:35:39,786 --> 03:35:40,487 regarding the implementation, I 5587 03:35:40,487 --> 03:35:41,187 want to note that this is 5588 03:35:41,187 --> 03:35:44,187 obviously it's important to me 5589 03:35:45,125 --> 03:35:45,625 that residents receive access 5590 03:35:45,625 --> 03:35:47,427 to financial aid. 5591 03:35:47,427 --> 03:35:50,427 How many financial aid clinics 5592 03:35:53,834 --> 03:35:57,434 have we helped stop Checking my 5593 03:35:57,704 --> 03:35:58,338 notes I believe it's 22 with 5594 03:35:58,338 --> 03:36:01,338 six since the APRIL 30th 5595 03:36:01,875 --> 03:36:02,442 deadline for fiscal year 26 5596 03:36:02,442 --> 03:36:03,143 assistance and they've 5597 03:36:03,143 --> 03:36:03,810 continued after that And we're 5598 03:36:03,810 --> 03:36:05,810 currently coordinating with 5599 03:36:08,115 --> 03:36:08,848 macc to identify dates for 5600 03:36:08,848 --> 03:36:09,482 additional clinics for that And 5601 03:36:09,482 --> 03:36:11,882 these are in-person right? 5602 03:36:12,786 --> 03:36:13,152 The 22 they are in person 5603 03:36:13,152 --> 03:36:13,854 Wonderful. 5604 03:36:13,854 --> 03:36:17,454 >> And how many have been held 5605 03:36:17,925 --> 03:36:18,625 in District eight I believe it 5606 03:36:18,625 --> 03:36:19,326 was four would double check my 5607 03:36:19,326 --> 03:36:21,695 notes but my recollection was 5608 03:36:21,695 --> 03:36:22,950 it was it was four. 5609 03:36:22,950 --> 03:36:22,828 Got you. 5610 03:36:22,828 --> 03:36:23,330 And at what times have these 5611 03:36:23,330 --> 03:36:25,330 clinics been held? 5612 03:36:27,634 --> 03:36:29,634 They've been approximately 5613 03:36:31,638 --> 03:36:32,239 again MR. Memory around 930 in 5614 03:36:32,239 --> 03:36:32,906 the morning to 330 in 5615 03:36:32,906 --> 03:36:33,474 the afternoon give or take. 5616 03:36:33,474 --> 03:36:35,874 >> And I do appreciate 5617 03:36:37,478 --> 03:36:38,178 the effort that esd has put to 5618 03:36:38,178 --> 03:36:38,778 reaching out to the community. 5619 03:36:38,778 --> 03:36:41,178 I am concerned regarding 5620 03:36:43,217 --> 03:36:43,883 the times that we've chosen to 5621 03:36:43,883 --> 03:36:46,883 hold these clinics and this 5622 03:36:48,422 --> 03:36:49,289 would be a follow not a follow 5623 03:36:49,289 --> 03:36:49,957 up but a critique if you will. 5624 03:36:49,957 --> 03:36:52,957 I represent a working class 5625 03:36:54,128 --> 03:36:54,995 community where folks often 5626 03:36:54,995 --> 03:36:55,696 have just more than one job and 5627 03:36:55,696 --> 03:36:56,363 I do find it problematic that 5628 03:36:56,363 --> 03:36:59,363 these clinics are not being 5629 03:37:00,200 --> 03:37:00,868 held past 530 or even on 5630 03:37:00,868 --> 03:37:03,268 weekends when residents are 5631 03:37:05,205 --> 03:37:06,720 more likely to attend. 5632 03:37:06,720 --> 03:37:06,673 I'd also like to ask given that 5633 03:37:06,673 --> 03:37:09,730 the program can support 5634 03:37:09,609 --> 03:37:11,609 approximately 7000 customers 5635 03:37:14,281 --> 03:37:14,882 and only 3897 applications have 5636 03:37:14,882 --> 03:37:17,282 been received right Not 5637 03:37:18,886 --> 03:37:19,186 accepted Receive That's correct 5638 03:37:19,186 --> 03:37:19,853 . 5639 03:37:19,853 --> 03:37:20,587 What target outreach tactics 5640 03:37:20,587 --> 03:37:23,324 are being considered for fiscal 5641 03:37:23,324 --> 03:37:24,124 year 27 to increase 5642 03:37:24,124 --> 03:37:27,124 the participation And out of 5643 03:37:28,162 --> 03:37:28,796 those? 5644 03:37:28,796 --> 03:37:29,496 So that's one question. 5645 03:37:29,496 --> 03:37:33,960 And the second question is out 5646 03:37:33,967 --> 03:37:34,568 of those 3897, how much how 5647 03:37:34,568 --> 03:37:35,202 many have been accepted? 5648 03:37:35,202 --> 03:37:35,502 So I'll take the last one 5649 03:37:35,502 --> 03:37:37,502 first. 5650 03:37:39,306 --> 03:37:42,306 So far around 2300 have been 5651 03:37:43,277 --> 03:37:43,744 fully approved of the of 5652 03:37:43,744 --> 03:37:44,545 the nearly 4004. 5653 03:37:44,545 --> 03:37:44,945 I thank you for the feedback on 5654 03:37:44,945 --> 03:37:46,945 the timing. 5655 03:37:48,449 --> 03:37:48,982 I'll note last year one of 5656 03:37:48,982 --> 03:37:49,650 the constraints with 5657 03:37:49,650 --> 03:37:52,650 involvement of our staff is 5658 03:37:53,787 --> 03:37:54,488 that the financial assistance 5659 03:37:54,488 --> 03:37:57,488 program is general fund funded 5660 03:37:59,192 --> 03:37:59,660 and our program was funded by 5661 03:37:59,660 --> 03:38:00,327 the rate payers. 5662 03:38:00,327 --> 03:38:03,297 Now that will be entering a 5663 03:38:03,297 --> 03:38:03,898 subsidized program with general 5664 03:38:03,898 --> 03:38:04,532 fund we might have 5665 03:38:04,532 --> 03:38:05,166 the opportunity to explore 5666 03:38:05,166 --> 03:38:07,566 whether staff could become 5667 03:38:09,437 --> 03:38:10,370 involved in either providing 5668 03:38:10,370 --> 03:38:10,604 more assistance or even 5669 03:38:10,604 --> 03:38:11,305 attending more clinics 5670 03:38:11,305 --> 03:38:14,809 something we can look into now 5671 03:38:14,809 --> 03:38:15,509 that we're not 1% but we have 5672 03:38:15,509 --> 03:38:19,130 Sorry you've made me think of 5673 03:38:19,130 --> 03:38:19,780 another question We have enough 5674 03:38:19,780 --> 03:38:20,248 money for up to 7000 folks. 5675 03:38:20,248 --> 03:38:22,248 That's correct. 5676 03:38:24,117 --> 03:38:24,885 So that isn't a question. 5677 03:38:24,885 --> 03:38:27,885 And on that note, on 5678 03:38:28,956 --> 03:38:29,724 the targeted outreach we've one 5679 03:38:29,724 --> 03:38:30,390 one item we've done is reached 5680 03:38:30,390 --> 03:38:31,580 out to the county to see if 5681 03:38:31,580 --> 03:38:33,458 there's any information they 5682 03:38:33,928 --> 03:38:34,628 could share either of those 5683 03:38:34,628 --> 03:38:35,396 folks who MAY have in the past 5684 03:38:35,396 --> 03:38:38,396 had inability to pay their 5685 03:38:39,467 --> 03:38:40,234 property taxes on time. 5686 03:38:40,234 --> 03:38:41,340 Also if they'd be willing to 5687 03:38:41,340 --> 03:38:44,340 pass along our information if 5688 03:38:44,138 --> 03:38:44,739 they couldn't share 5689 03:38:44,739 --> 03:38:45,406 the addresses directly. 5690 03:38:45,406 --> 03:38:45,973 And then additionally we've 5691 03:38:45,973 --> 03:38:47,973 been coordinating with 5692 03:38:49,143 --> 03:38:49,910 community based organizations 5693 03:38:49,910 --> 03:38:50,444 and to invite them to pass 5694 03:38:50,444 --> 03:38:50,978 along information on 5695 03:38:50,978 --> 03:38:51,712 the program to their 5696 03:38:51,712 --> 03:38:54,649 communities they serve in their 5697 03:38:54,649 --> 03:38:54,949 networks. 5698 03:38:54,949 --> 03:38:55,783 Okay. 5699 03:38:55,783 --> 03:38:58,783 And that is what that's 5700 03:39:00,540 --> 03:39:00,821 the tactic to get more folks to 5701 03:39:00,821 --> 03:39:04,158 apply or yeah I guess at this 5702 03:39:04,158 --> 03:39:04,591 point to just apply right? 5703 03:39:04,591 --> 03:39:05,192 Yes. 5704 03:39:05,192 --> 03:39:07,562 And the other thing I would 5705 03:39:07,562 --> 03:39:08,262 note is one of the feedback we 5706 03:39:08,262 --> 03:39:11,862 received in the first year was 5707 03:39:13,670 --> 03:39:13,701 rather than having people apply 5708 03:39:13,701 --> 03:39:14,435 from scratch in the second 5709 03:39:14,435 --> 03:39:16,537 year, can we streamline so that 5710 03:39:16,537 --> 03:39:17,205 if they qualified from one year 5711 03:39:17,205 --> 03:39:17,939 if they remain the property 5712 03:39:17,939 --> 03:39:21,539 owner of that property have it 5713 03:39:21,809 --> 03:39:22,477 be two year increments And what 5714 03:39:22,477 --> 03:39:23,143 that means is for the second 5715 03:39:23,143 --> 03:39:23,444 year we're not starting from 5716 03:39:23,444 --> 03:39:25,444 zero. 5717 03:39:27,148 --> 03:39:27,815 We're essentially starting from 5718 03:39:27,815 --> 03:39:28,348 and then we can build from 5719 03:39:28,348 --> 03:39:30,348 there 2300 correct. 5720 03:39:31,319 --> 03:39:32,200 Which would be okay And there 5721 03:39:32,200 --> 03:39:32,320 is an opening and a closing 5722 03:39:32,320 --> 03:39:33,540 right? 5723 03:39:33,540 --> 03:39:36,190 When is the opening and closing 5724 03:39:36,190 --> 03:39:38,590 of these applications for 5725 03:39:39,861 --> 03:39:40,128 the fiscal year 24 fiscal year 5726 03:39:40,128 --> 03:39:40,862 26. 5727 03:39:40,862 --> 03:39:43,430 The program launched in JANUARY 5728 03:39:43,430 --> 03:39:44,980 and it was through APRIL 30th 5729 03:39:44,980 --> 03:39:47,980 are now starting MAY 1st 5730 03:39:48,536 --> 03:39:48,937 through we projected next year 5731 03:39:48,937 --> 03:39:49,571 APRIL 30th. 5732 03:39:49,571 --> 03:39:52,841 And the reason for that it 5733 03:39:52,841 --> 03:39:53,575 gives us an ability to go 5734 03:39:53,575 --> 03:39:54,274 through all of the applications 5735 03:39:54,274 --> 03:39:57,274 received and then get through 5736 03:39:57,746 --> 03:39:58,379 that queue and get 5737 03:39:58,379 --> 03:39:59,470 the assistance out before 5738 03:39:59,470 --> 03:39:59,614 the end of the fiscal year. 5739 03:39:59,614 --> 03:40:02,140 So it's currently open 5740 03:40:03,218 --> 03:40:03,718 the application process is 5741 03:40:03,718 --> 03:40:05,718 currently current. 5742 03:40:08,289 --> 03:40:08,856 Okay And Mac is a provider or a 5743 03:40:08,856 --> 03:40:09,858 partner I should say. 5744 03:40:09,858 --> 03:40:12,961 What are we paying Mac to do 5745 03:40:12,961 --> 03:40:16,561 This work The first fiscal year 5746 03:40:17,399 --> 03:40:18,990 fiscal 26 it was approximate 5747 03:40:18,990 --> 03:40:18,766 only on the order of 500,000 5748 03:40:18,766 --> 03:40:22,366 for the year for next fiscal 5749 03:40:22,403 --> 03:40:23,171 year Again based on approximate 5750 03:40:23,171 --> 03:40:26,274 memory it's on the order of 5751 03:40:26,274 --> 03:40:27,800 around 250,000. 5752 03:40:27,800 --> 03:40:27,675 >> So part of the reason 5753 03:40:27,675 --> 03:40:28,343 the first year was more was 5754 03:40:28,343 --> 03:40:30,711 standing up the program and 5755 03:40:30,711 --> 03:40:31,412 building infrastructure So it's 5756 03:40:31,412 --> 03:40:33,812 500,000 to put on 15 clinics 5757 03:40:35,830 --> 03:40:35,749 and to accept or deny 5758 03:40:35,749 --> 03:40:36,284 the applications correct and 5759 03:40:36,284 --> 03:40:36,785 also to outreach for 5760 03:40:36,785 --> 03:40:37,252 the applications. 5761 03:40:37,252 --> 03:40:39,252 That's correct. 5762 03:40:40,222 --> 03:40:40,956 Okay. 5763 03:40:40,956 --> 03:40:41,589 What's the average wait time 5764 03:40:41,589 --> 03:40:43,989 for a financial assistance 5765 03:40:45,193 --> 03:40:45,894 application So I can answer 5766 03:40:45,894 --> 03:40:48,294 that question indirectly They 5767 03:40:50,132 --> 03:40:53,132 have been getting through a 5768 03:40:53,335 --> 03:40:53,868 round lately around 100 to 200 5769 03:40:53,868 --> 03:40:54,602 applications a week. 5770 03:40:54,602 --> 03:40:58,202 It's hard to give an exact 5771 03:40:58,206 --> 03:40:58,873 average because a lot of 5772 03:40:58,873 --> 03:40:59,540 the applications if they're 5773 03:40:59,540 --> 03:41:00,142 100% complete they have all 5774 03:41:00,142 --> 03:41:02,542 the information they can 5775 03:41:02,778 --> 03:41:03,545 approve it very quickly. 5776 03:41:03,545 --> 03:41:04,212 What they've been doing is if 5777 03:41:04,212 --> 03:41:06,612 an application is missing 5778 03:41:08,116 --> 03:41:08,684 information, they've been 5779 03:41:08,684 --> 03:41:09,384 reaching out, calling 5780 03:41:09,384 --> 03:41:11,687 the applicant or calling them 5781 03:41:11,687 --> 03:41:12,387 waiting them to call back to 5782 03:41:12,387 --> 03:41:12,954 get missing information or 5783 03:41:12,954 --> 03:41:13,655 corrected information. 5784 03:41:13,655 --> 03:41:16,655 So depending on how responsive 5785 03:41:17,159 --> 03:41:17,926 an applicant is that could 5786 03:41:17,926 --> 03:41:18,326 extend how long it how long it 5787 03:41:18,326 --> 03:41:20,326 would take. 5788 03:41:21,330 --> 03:41:23,330 >> We have 3997 applications. 5789 03:41:25,967 --> 03:41:26,668 So can you tell me how long You 5790 03:41:26,668 --> 03:41:27,536 probably can't tell me right 5791 03:41:27,536 --> 03:41:30,839 now but can you tell me 5792 03:41:30,839 --> 03:41:31,440 the median wait time for 5793 03:41:31,440 --> 03:41:33,440 the financial assistance 5794 03:41:35,978 --> 03:41:36,345 application for maybe even say 5795 03:41:36,345 --> 03:41:37,145 the 2300? 5796 03:41:37,145 --> 03:41:40,745 I guess we should only include 5797 03:41:41,216 --> 03:41:44,816 that because there are also So 5798 03:41:44,986 --> 03:41:45,888 for the 3897 if I could know 5799 03:41:45,888 --> 03:41:49,458 how many you know how long it 5800 03:41:49,458 --> 03:41:50,159 takes just on average even not 5801 03:41:50,159 --> 03:41:50,959 putting into consideration any 5802 03:41:50,959 --> 03:41:54,559 variable just this is what it's 5803 03:41:55,297 --> 03:41:58,297 taking I would say multiple 5804 03:41:59,268 --> 03:42:00,690 months to give you an average 5805 03:42:00,690 --> 03:42:00,735 it would include the date that 5806 03:42:00,735 --> 03:42:01,170 application was received and 5807 03:42:01,170 --> 03:42:03,170 then the date. 5808 03:42:04,720 --> 03:42:04,773 So it would be looking at 5809 03:42:04,773 --> 03:42:05,730 the individual factors for all 5810 03:42:05,730 --> 03:42:07,730 4000. 5811 03:42:10,450 --> 03:42:10,846 I can check with a mac I'm not 5812 03:42:10,846 --> 03:42:11,513 going to put them on the slide 5813 03:42:11,513 --> 03:42:12,470 unless they I would say no I 5814 03:42:12,470 --> 03:42:14,470 wouldn't want that. 5815 03:42:14,350 --> 03:42:15,217 I can even just an email just 5816 03:42:15,217 --> 03:42:18,553 so I could see it and I would 5817 03:42:18,553 --> 03:42:19,187 our staff and Mac also to 5818 03:42:19,187 --> 03:42:21,587 factor in working families 5819 03:42:23,559 --> 03:42:24,260 schedules for I mentioned that 5820 03:42:24,260 --> 03:42:27,860 for the clinics if they could 5821 03:42:28,229 --> 03:42:28,931 start later in the day 5822 03:42:28,931 --> 03:42:29,565 obviously robust outreach for 5823 03:42:29,565 --> 03:42:31,565 residents consider senior 5824 03:42:33,200 --> 03:42:33,969 citizens especially 5825 03:42:33,969 --> 03:42:37,569 the inability to attend some of 5826 03:42:38,507 --> 03:42:39,208 the meetings I think is going 5827 03:42:39,208 --> 03:42:42,808 to be a factor and also 5828 03:42:42,878 --> 03:42:43,646 the fact that a lot of well I 5829 03:42:43,646 --> 03:42:44,346 shouldn't say a lot 10% of 5830 03:42:44,346 --> 03:42:47,346 the population in my district 5831 03:42:47,583 --> 03:42:48,117 are they exist within 5832 03:42:48,117 --> 03:42:50,117 the digital divide. 5833 03:42:52,210 --> 03:42:52,822 So they have they do not have 5834 03:42:52,822 --> 03:42:53,322 access to any, you know, smart 5835 03:42:53,322 --> 03:42:55,722 form phone wi fi. 5836 03:42:57,459 --> 03:43:00,459 So really getting creative on 5837 03:43:01,897 --> 03:43:02,630 how we outreach this program so 5838 03:43:02,630 --> 03:43:06,230 our residents able to walk into 5839 03:43:06,569 --> 03:43:07,269 Mac's installations and receive 5840 03:43:07,269 --> 03:43:07,803 information for the financial 5841 03:43:07,803 --> 03:43:09,803 assistance program. 5842 03:43:11,907 --> 03:43:14,907 I understand that there their 5843 03:43:16,412 --> 03:43:17,380 offices are in Chula Vista but 5844 03:43:17,380 --> 03:43:18,130 is is a resident are we able to 5845 03:43:18,130 --> 03:43:21,613 send a resident to the Mac 5846 03:43:21,750 --> 03:43:22,510 facility to apply in Chula 5847 03:43:22,510 --> 03:43:22,752 Vista? 5848 03:43:22,752 --> 03:43:26,155 They aren't staffed and set up 5849 03:43:26,155 --> 03:43:27,230 to accept walk in the clinics 5850 03:43:27,230 --> 03:43:30,623 are the primary approach and so 5851 03:43:32,695 --> 03:43:33,395 i thank you for the feedback on 5852 03:43:33,395 --> 03:43:34,130 the timing of those events and 5853 03:43:34,130 --> 03:43:34,863 that's something we can look at 5854 03:43:34,863 --> 03:43:36,980 for the coming years and sketch 5855 03:43:36,980 --> 03:43:36,499 with those to make sure they're 5856 03:43:36,499 --> 03:43:36,932 accessible. 5857 03:43:36,932 --> 03:43:38,932 >> Thank you. 5858 03:43:40,469 --> 03:43:41,170 And so obviously just to put it 5859 03:43:41,170 --> 03:43:44,170 on the record, future clinics 5860 03:43:45,410 --> 03:43:45,741 are being considered in other 5861 03:43:45,741 --> 03:43:46,375 communities in addition to San 5862 03:43:46,375 --> 03:43:46,675 Ysidro and Logan Heights. 5863 03:43:46,675 --> 03:43:47,343 Right. 5864 03:43:47,343 --> 03:43:50,343 We're looking at Otay Mesa 5865 03:43:50,746 --> 03:43:51,447 Nester Egger I just want to put 5866 03:43:51,447 --> 03:43:55,510 that on the record and I just 5867 03:43:55,510 --> 03:43:55,384 have a few more maybe a minute 5868 03:43:55,384 --> 03:43:56,119 or two. 5869 03:43:56,119 --> 03:43:59,155 Once again it's important to me 5870 03:43:59,155 --> 03:43:59,855 that residents in District 5871 03:43:59,855 --> 03:44:00,423 eight have the opportunity to 5872 03:44:00,423 --> 03:44:02,423 easily participate in 5873 03:44:04,293 --> 03:44:04,894 the financial assistance 5874 03:44:04,894 --> 03:44:05,861 clinics provided by esd. 5875 03:44:05,861 --> 03:44:09,365 It's good to hear that you guys 5876 03:44:09,365 --> 03:44:09,999 might jump in and get some of 5877 03:44:09,999 --> 03:44:11,999 that intellectual property 5878 03:44:14,270 --> 03:44:14,603 right that we're handing over 5879 03:44:14,603 --> 03:44:15,270 to Mac. 5880 03:44:15,270 --> 03:44:18,870 Thank you Mac by the way. 5881 03:44:19,208 --> 03:44:23,408 And so yeah, we should make it 5882 03:44:23,813 --> 03:44:24,513 easier rather than harder for 5883 03:44:24,513 --> 03:44:28,113 folks to apply And so that 5884 03:44:28,685 --> 03:44:29,385 would be my concluding comments 5885 03:44:29,385 --> 03:44:30,119 But once again just tremendous 5886 03:44:30,119 --> 03:44:34,224 work that the men and women did 5887 03:44:34,224 --> 03:44:38,463 out in in esd Just it was truly 5888 03:44:38,463 --> 03:44:39,229 phenomenal and it was tough too 5889 03:44:39,229 --> 03:44:39,595 And I actually got to lift up a 5890 03:44:39,595 --> 03:44:41,595 trash can. 5891 03:44:43,232 --> 03:44:43,533 So that was that was really 5892 03:44:43,533 --> 03:44:44,400 cool. 5893 03:44:44,400 --> 03:44:45,101 So please thank Kiki and all of 5894 03:44:45,101 --> 03:44:47,937 his and I think we're working 5895 03:44:47,937 --> 03:44:48,638 on a ride share That's what 5896 03:44:48,638 --> 03:44:49,305 came out of this conversation 5897 03:44:49,305 --> 03:44:52,905 is a ride share with sandag. 5898 03:44:52,976 --> 03:44:53,510 So it was a really fun time And 5899 03:44:53,510 --> 03:44:53,976 thank you you guys. 5900 03:44:53,976 --> 03:44:54,611 I appreciate it. 5901 03:44:54,611 --> 03:44:54,978 Thank you, Councilmember. 5902 03:44:54,978 --> 03:44:55,345 All right. 5903 03:44:55,345 --> 03:44:57,345 Thank you. 5904 03:44:57,947 --> 03:44:58,681 COUNCILMAN Moreno. 5905 03:44:58,681 --> 03:44:59,415 We'll go next to Councilmember 5906 03:44:59,415 --> 03:44:59,983 Camp You you council PRESIDENT. 5907 03:44:59,983 --> 03:45:01,584 Thank you to our staff 5908 03:45:01,584 --> 03:45:02,285 obviously Environmental 5909 03:45:02,285 --> 03:45:03,520 Services does an excellent and 5910 03:45:03,520 --> 03:45:06,520 important job for making sure 5911 03:45:07,790 --> 03:45:08,358 public is safe and healthy and 5912 03:45:08,358 --> 03:45:09,225 million other things. 5913 03:45:09,225 --> 03:45:11,995 We wanted to just get a sense 5914 03:45:11,995 --> 03:45:15,498 of one of the issues in 5915 03:45:15,498 --> 03:45:16,199 the staff report It looks like 5916 03:45:16,199 --> 03:45:16,900 the first rfid readers aren't 5917 03:45:16,900 --> 03:45:17,333 working out but we're going to 5918 03:45:17,333 --> 03:45:18,330 a second one. 5919 03:45:18,330 --> 03:45:18,568 Can you give us a little more 5920 03:45:18,568 --> 03:45:20,336 information on that? 5921 03:45:20,336 --> 03:45:21,103 Oh yes. 5922 03:45:21,103 --> 03:45:24,703 So we discussed last JUNE that 5923 03:45:25,175 --> 03:45:25,742 all the new containers come 5924 03:45:25,742 --> 03:45:26,242 with the rfid Readers 5925 03:45:26,242 --> 03:45:26,909 themselves are in 5926 03:45:26,909 --> 03:45:29,909 the containers and that our 5927 03:45:30,380 --> 03:45:31,470 plan was to test hardware 5928 03:45:31,470 --> 03:45:34,470 through a pilot before we 5929 03:45:35,118 --> 03:45:38,118 invested in installing on our 5930 03:45:38,421 --> 03:45:39,289 on our fleet of trucks We did 5931 03:45:39,289 --> 03:45:42,289 test one hardware the detection 5932 03:45:43,960 --> 03:45:44,528 rate and the versatility of 5933 03:45:44,528 --> 03:45:46,928 the equipment was not 5934 03:45:48,598 --> 03:45:49,332 sufficient for our in our 5935 03:45:49,332 --> 03:45:50,100 perspective to invest the money 5936 03:45:50,100 --> 03:45:53,100 to buy 150 to 200 of those 5937 03:45:53,570 --> 03:45:54,504 devices. 5938 03:45:54,504 --> 03:45:55,171 In that sense we see it as a 5939 03:45:55,171 --> 03:45:58,171 successful pilot and that we 5940 03:45:58,508 --> 03:45:59,109 were able to conclude something 5941 03:45:59,109 --> 03:46:01,109 before purchasing varig 5942 03:46:03,346 --> 03:46:04,470 the same the same vendor that 5943 03:46:04,470 --> 03:46:04,815 makes the containers we became 5944 03:46:04,815 --> 03:46:07,815 aware also makes this hardware 5945 03:46:09,152 --> 03:46:09,853 So our next step is to test 5946 03:46:09,853 --> 03:46:13,560 that hardware and if and only 5947 03:46:13,560 --> 03:46:13,790 if it also turns out to be 5948 03:46:13,790 --> 03:46:14,457 successful scanning meeting our 5949 03:46:14,457 --> 03:46:16,857 Detectability goals Then at 5950 03:46:17,961 --> 03:46:18,595 that point we would plan to 5951 03:46:18,595 --> 03:46:19,162 invest in the equipment to 5952 03:46:19,162 --> 03:46:21,562 install on the trucks. 5953 03:46:22,165 --> 03:46:22,966 Okay understood. 5954 03:46:22,966 --> 03:46:23,633 In terms of the second pilot 5955 03:46:23,633 --> 03:46:27,204 that we see we're at, where 5956 03:46:27,204 --> 03:46:27,838 have we already started testing 5957 03:46:27,838 --> 03:46:28,738 that as early this summer? 5958 03:46:28,738 --> 03:46:31,975 So we have an item coming to 5959 03:46:31,975 --> 03:46:32,742 council in the coming weeks or 5960 03:46:32,742 --> 03:46:35,742 so to consider the contract 5961 03:46:36,713 --> 03:46:37,214 vehicle that would allow us to 5962 03:46:37,214 --> 03:46:37,581 buy the equipment. 5963 03:46:37,581 --> 03:46:39,581 Very good. 5964 03:46:41,385 --> 03:46:42,850 Okay. 5965 03:46:42,850 --> 03:46:42,920 What's the long term plan? 5966 03:46:42,920 --> 03:46:44,821 What what's plan c if this one 5967 03:46:44,821 --> 03:46:45,789 doesn't work Because rfid chips 5968 03:46:45,789 --> 03:46:49,989 are important for us to be able 5969 03:46:50,727 --> 03:46:51,328 to certify that we're charging 5970 03:46:51,328 --> 03:46:51,895 people for the right at 5971 03:46:51,895 --> 03:46:54,295 the right location for 5972 03:46:55,199 --> 03:46:56,166 the right amount of trash in 5973 03:46:56,166 --> 03:46:59,766 general if for some reason it 5974 03:47:00,404 --> 03:47:01,138 wasn't giving the detective 5975 03:47:01,138 --> 03:47:01,772 rate we would look for we would 5976 03:47:01,772 --> 03:47:04,174 look for if there's other 5977 03:47:04,174 --> 03:47:04,874 equipment, other vendors and 5978 03:47:04,874 --> 03:47:05,175 then we could also test. 5979 03:47:05,175 --> 03:47:05,910 Okay. 5980 03:47:05,910 --> 03:47:08,310 Well looking forward to 5981 03:47:09,880 --> 03:47:10,614 bringing that seeing that item 5982 03:47:10,614 --> 03:47:11,248 come to full council and making 5983 03:47:11,248 --> 03:47:11,615 sure we get this to work. 5984 03:47:11,615 --> 03:47:11,982 Thank you. 5985 03:47:11,982 --> 03:47:13,982 Thank you. 5986 03:47:13,984 --> 03:47:14,485 Councilmember. 5987 03:47:14,485 --> 03:47:15,219 All right. 5988 03:47:15,219 --> 03:47:16,190 Thank you, Councilmember Campo. 5989 03:47:16,190 --> 03:47:18,589 I don't see anybody else in 5990 03:47:18,589 --> 03:47:19,156 the lights. 5991 03:47:19,156 --> 03:47:19,923 I'll add my thanks. 5992 03:47:19,923 --> 03:47:22,859 You know a good reminder that 5993 03:47:22,859 --> 03:47:25,259 everything you're doing you 5994 03:47:28,132 --> 03:47:31,732 started from scratch and and a 5995 03:47:32,836 --> 03:47:33,504 fabulous job and you know, a 5996 03:47:33,504 --> 03:47:34,171 lot of bumps along the way. 5997 03:47:34,171 --> 03:47:37,171 But you navigated those and 5998 03:47:37,608 --> 03:47:38,108 righted the ship and really 5999 03:47:38,108 --> 03:47:38,809 delivered for us. 6000 03:47:38,809 --> 03:47:42,379 A couple of questions kind of 6001 03:47:42,379 --> 03:47:43,800 inspired by my colleagues that 6002 03:47:43,800 --> 03:47:46,680 I wasn't really going to ask. 6003 03:47:46,750 --> 03:47:47,351 So in the f y 26 budget we 6004 03:47:47,351 --> 03:47:47,918 allocated money for this 6005 03:47:47,918 --> 03:47:49,918 financial assistance. 6006 03:47:51,154 --> 03:47:51,588 It sounds like we did not burn 6007 03:47:51,588 --> 03:47:52,489 through that. 6008 03:47:52,489 --> 03:47:56,393 Did we roll that over So we 6009 03:47:56,393 --> 03:47:59,395 actually have more money in f y 6010 03:47:59,395 --> 03:47:59,729 27 or do we still have the 3 6011 03:47:59,729 --> 03:48:00,300 million? 6012 03:48:00,300 --> 03:48:00,798 Yes. 6013 03:48:00,798 --> 03:48:03,798 So the for the contract 6014 03:48:03,901 --> 03:48:04,502 administration we simply 6015 03:48:04,502 --> 03:48:05,202 wouldn't spend that for 6016 03:48:05,202 --> 03:48:08,202 the amount that was allocated 6017 03:48:09,600 --> 03:48:09,740 for the assistance itself. 6018 03:48:09,740 --> 03:48:12,309 We still have that and we're 6019 03:48:12,309 --> 03:48:13,100 going through the nearly 4000 6020 03:48:13,100 --> 03:48:13,677 applications and depending on 6021 03:48:13,677 --> 03:48:16,677 whether there's how many of 6022 03:48:17,481 --> 03:48:18,149 those are fully approved, 6023 03:48:18,149 --> 03:48:18,649 the remaining funding would 6024 03:48:18,649 --> 03:48:21,490 first go to those. 6025 03:48:22,252 --> 03:48:22,787 It would then roll over and 6026 03:48:22,787 --> 03:48:23,487 then when we review 6027 03:48:23,487 --> 03:48:26,487 the applications for next year 6028 03:48:26,956 --> 03:48:27,825 we'd have it available. 6029 03:48:27,825 --> 03:48:28,392 If funding is not used then at 6030 03:48:28,392 --> 03:48:28,992 that point it would be 6031 03:48:28,992 --> 03:48:31,362 available to return to 6032 03:48:31,362 --> 03:48:31,662 the general fund. 6033 03:48:31,662 --> 03:48:33,662 Okay. 6034 03:48:35,199 --> 03:48:35,866 In terms of expectations, 6035 03:48:35,866 --> 03:48:36,667 the 2300 that were approved 6036 03:48:36,667 --> 03:48:40,400 that would be a credit towards 6037 03:48:40,400 --> 03:48:43,774 the f y 26 cost that would show 6038 03:48:43,774 --> 03:48:44,342 up in their f y 27 bill. 6039 03:48:44,342 --> 03:48:46,742 So no thank you. 6040 03:48:47,645 --> 03:48:48,379 Thank you for the question 6041 03:48:48,379 --> 03:48:51,379 Councilmember So for those that 6042 03:48:51,849 --> 03:48:52,450 have applied for fiscal year 26 6043 03:48:52,450 --> 03:48:53,184 because they've already 6044 03:48:53,184 --> 03:48:56,153 received their bill and in most 6045 03:48:56,153 --> 03:48:56,887 cases already paid it 6046 03:48:56,887 --> 03:48:57,622 the assistance for this year is 6047 03:48:57,622 --> 03:48:58,289 in the form of a rebate so they 6048 03:48:58,289 --> 03:49:01,289 will receive or have already 6049 03:49:01,726 --> 03:49:02,393 received in some cases either a 6050 03:49:02,393 --> 03:49:02,760 check or direct deposit for 6051 03:49:02,760 --> 03:49:04,760 next year. 6052 03:49:06,960 --> 03:49:06,831 The plan is to primarily do 6053 03:49:06,831 --> 03:49:07,131 the proactive credit on the tax 6054 03:49:07,131 --> 03:49:07,432 bill. 6055 03:49:07,432 --> 03:49:09,432 Okay. 6056 03:49:11,269 --> 03:49:11,902 And then the remainder of 6057 03:49:11,902 --> 03:49:14,902 the 4000 And once they get 6058 03:49:15,906 --> 03:49:16,240 finally approved I get there in 6059 03:49:16,240 --> 03:49:16,908 process. 6060 03:49:16,908 --> 03:49:17,608 Will they also get a rebate 6061 03:49:17,608 --> 03:49:17,874 That will be a rebate as well? 6062 03:49:17,874 --> 03:49:18,175 Yes. 6063 03:49:18,175 --> 03:49:20,175 Okay. 6064 03:49:20,545 --> 03:49:21,412 All right. 6065 03:49:21,412 --> 03:49:25,120 Again, standing up a first time 6066 03:49:25,182 --> 03:49:25,616 effort So really doing a very, 6067 03:49:25,616 --> 03:49:26,250 very good job. 6068 03:49:26,250 --> 03:49:28,250 I appreciate Councilmember 6069 03:49:29,954 --> 03:49:30,654 Moreno's perspective given her 6070 03:49:30,654 --> 03:49:31,389 knowledge of her constituents 6071 03:49:31,389 --> 03:49:34,258 about how to connect with them. 6072 03:49:34,258 --> 03:49:34,959 I think that's the biggest 6073 03:49:34,959 --> 03:49:35,660 challenge we have is how to 6074 03:49:35,660 --> 03:49:38,660 connect with people who don't 6075 03:49:39,163 --> 03:49:39,864 know our programs available And 6076 03:49:39,864 --> 03:49:43,464 this is something that can be 6077 03:49:44,736 --> 03:49:45,603 pretty available to them. 6078 03:49:45,603 --> 03:49:46,271 There was a comment I want make 6079 03:49:46,271 --> 03:49:49,271 sure people realize t genie 6080 03:49:49,873 --> 03:49:50,574 does not run the care program 6081 03:49:50,574 --> 03:49:53,878 or they run the care program. 6082 03:49:53,878 --> 03:49:54,546 It is not Genie's money it is 6083 03:49:54,546 --> 03:49:56,946 ratepayers money that Genie 6084 03:49:58,616 --> 03:49:59,217 manages on behalf of a 6085 03:49:59,217 --> 03:50:01,217 statewide public purpose 6086 03:50:03,354 --> 03:50:03,988 program No shade on Genie but I 6087 03:50:03,988 --> 03:50:04,622 didn't want anybody to get 6088 03:50:04,622 --> 03:50:06,622 confused after yesterday's 6089 03:50:08,192 --> 03:50:08,827 conversation And I appreciate 6090 03:50:08,827 --> 03:50:11,227 the conversation too about 6091 03:50:12,997 --> 03:50:13,631 the fund balance and keeping an 6092 03:50:13,631 --> 03:50:14,165 eye and managing on that. 6093 03:50:14,165 --> 03:50:17,165 But at the risk of 6094 03:50:17,869 --> 03:50:18,569 relitigating, I think about 70 6095 03:50:18,569 --> 03:50:19,270 or 80 million that was being 6096 03:50:19,270 --> 03:50:22,870 taken out of the general fund 6097 03:50:23,107 --> 03:50:27,178 to run esd that no longer is 6098 03:50:27,178 --> 03:50:28,460 part of the conversation and 6099 03:50:28,460 --> 03:50:28,779 and I know there are still some 6100 03:50:28,779 --> 03:50:31,683 folks that believe that private 6101 03:50:31,683 --> 03:50:32,450 haulers charge less than 6102 03:50:32,450 --> 03:50:33,118 the city And I think I know 6103 03:50:33,118 --> 03:50:33,418 personally that that is not 6104 03:50:33,418 --> 03:50:35,418 true. 6105 03:50:36,655 --> 03:50:37,455 We heard a lot of stories about 6106 03:50:37,455 --> 03:50:41,550 how much people pay for private 6107 03:50:41,226 --> 03:50:41,927 waste collection that goes 6108 03:50:41,927 --> 03:50:42,494 above and beyond what the city 6109 03:50:42,494 --> 03:50:44,494 is actually charging. 6110 03:50:45,530 --> 03:50:46,231 Nevertheless, we should be 6111 03:50:46,231 --> 03:50:48,631 sensitive to what constituents 6112 03:50:50,368 --> 03:50:51,136 have to pay going forward. 6113 03:50:51,136 --> 03:50:51,736 So with that again, thank you 6114 03:50:51,736 --> 03:50:54,736 for the very good work. 6115 03:50:55,307 --> 03:50:56,700 Thank you for these regular 6116 03:50:56,700 --> 03:50:56,541 updates about the program and 6117 03:50:56,541 --> 03:50:58,541 keeping us informed. 6118 03:51:00,545 --> 03:51:01,450 It's I think very helpful to us 6119 03:51:01,450 --> 03:51:01,646 and to the public. 6120 03:51:01,646 --> 03:51:04,646 So again this was an 6121 03:51:04,950 --> 03:51:05,350 information item and no motion 6122 03:51:05,350 --> 03:51:06,217 is required. 6123 03:51:06,217 --> 03:51:09,217 So with that Deputy clerk 6124 03:51:10,554 --> 03:51:11,189 please reintroduce item 333 and 6125 03:51:11,189 --> 03:51:13,589 proceed with the tabulated 6126 03:51:15,260 --> 03:51:15,793 protests. 6127 03:51:15,793 --> 03:51:16,428 Item three through three is a 6128 03:51:16,428 --> 03:51:18,828 collection of solid waste 6129 03:51:19,698 --> 03:51:20,650 management fees on the county 6130 03:51:20,650 --> 03:51:22,650 tax roll. 6131 03:51:24,436 --> 03:51:25,700 There's information provided by 6132 03:51:25,700 --> 03:51:27,700 the Environmental Services 6133 03:51:28,740 --> 03:51:29,474 Department 112,516 protest 6134 03:51:29,474 --> 03:51:32,474 would represent 50% plus one of 6135 03:51:32,811 --> 03:51:33,478 parcel subject to the proposed 6136 03:51:33,478 --> 03:51:35,878 solid waste management fees. 6137 03:51:35,947 --> 03:51:36,681 The city clerk's office 6138 03:51:36,681 --> 03:51:37,382 received three protests against 6139 03:51:37,382 --> 03:51:40,382 adoption of the written report 6140 03:51:41,119 --> 03:51:41,854 identifying affected parcels 6141 03:51:41,854 --> 03:51:42,488 and the solid waste management 6142 03:51:42,488 --> 03:51:45,991 fees to be charged to each 6143 03:51:45,991 --> 03:51:48,391 affected Parcel parcel on 6144 03:51:50,696 --> 03:51:51,230 the 2026 2027 County Tax Bill 6145 03:51:51,230 --> 03:51:51,964 without reviewing or 6146 03:51:51,964 --> 03:51:54,364 authenticating any protests and 6147 03:51:55,400 --> 03:51:56,100 assuming that they are all 6148 03:51:56,100 --> 03:51:56,468 valid and from affected 6149 03:51:56,468 --> 03:51:57,690 property owners. 6150 03:51:57,690 --> 03:52:00,690 We can clearly say that 6151 03:52:00,405 --> 03:52:01,173 the number of protests lodged 6152 03:52:01,173 --> 03:52:03,942 with the city clerk's office is 6153 03:52:03,942 --> 03:52:04,409 clearly below the threshold of 6154 03:52:04,409 --> 03:52:05,440 50% plus one. 6155 03:52:05,440 --> 03:52:05,444 This concludes my report. 6156 03:52:05,444 --> 03:52:07,444 All right. 6157 03:52:09,114 --> 03:52:09,748 Thank you, Deputy Clerk. 6158 03:52:09,748 --> 03:52:10,282 Again, the public hearing 6159 03:52:10,282 --> 03:52:12,282 portion was closed. 6160 03:52:13,519 --> 03:52:14,219 We will now take up council 6161 03:52:14,219 --> 03:52:14,920 members questions and comments 6162 03:52:14,920 --> 03:52:18,520 and entertain a motion and we 6163 03:52:19,625 --> 03:52:19,957 will start with Councilmember 6164 03:52:19,957 --> 03:52:20,325 Rivera. 6165 03:52:20,325 --> 03:52:20,958 Thank you. 6166 03:52:20,958 --> 03:52:23,358 Health resident I'll move 6167 03:52:23,962 --> 03:52:24,329 the recommendation here. 6168 03:52:24,329 --> 03:52:25,296 All right. 6169 03:52:25,296 --> 03:52:28,330 And not see anybody else in 6170 03:52:28,330 --> 03:52:30,330 lights. 6171 03:52:33,672 --> 03:52:34,540 I'll go ahead and second that 6172 03:52:34,540 --> 03:52:34,973 I'll leave it at that not see 6173 03:52:34,973 --> 03:52:35,873 anybody else. 6174 03:52:35,873 --> 03:52:38,276 So we have a motion by council 6175 03:52:38,276 --> 03:52:38,943 member Eli Rivera and a second 6176 03:52:38,943 --> 03:52:42,543 by myself to move the staff 6177 03:52:42,914 --> 03:52:44,914 recommendation on item 333. 6178 03:52:47,419 --> 03:52:48,870 Clerk Please call the roll. 6179 03:52:48,870 --> 03:52:48,420 I have started the voting 6180 03:52:48,420 --> 03:52:50,420 system. 6181 03:52:52,191 --> 03:52:52,892 Please cast your vote and I 6182 03:52:52,892 --> 03:52:53,525 will need a verbal votes from 6183 03:52:53,525 --> 03:52:55,525 Councilmember Campbell and 6184 03:52:56,695 --> 03:52:56,995 Council member Whitburn Please 6185 03:52:56,995 --> 03:52:57,395 . 6186 03:52:57,395 --> 03:52:59,395 Yes yes. 6187 03:53:06,138 --> 03:53:08,138 Thank you. 6188 03:53:11,476 --> 03:53:13,476 That item passes. 6189 03:53:19,285 --> 03:53:19,618 Um 622 with District five 6190 03:53:19,618 --> 03:53:21,618 absent. 6191 03:53:24,323 --> 03:53:27,226 >> All right With that Deputy 6192 03:53:27,226 --> 03:53:29,626 clerk please introduce item 6193 03:53:32,998 --> 03:53:34,633 s505 items 505 is the fiscal 6194 03:53:34,633 --> 03:53:36,633 year 2027 Appropriation 6195 03:53:53,686 --> 03:53:54,520 ordinance. 6196 03:53:54,520 --> 03:53:56,520 All right. 6197 03:53:58,557 --> 03:53:59,292 As you settle yourself in, 6198 03:53:59,292 --> 03:53:59,992 please introduce yourselves for 6199 03:53:59,992 --> 03:54:00,659 the record and let us know how 6200 03:54:00,659 --> 03:54:03,562 much time you need for your 6201 03:54:03,562 --> 03:54:04,960 presentation. 6202 03:54:04,960 --> 03:54:04,764 >> Good afternoon. 6203 03:54:04,764 --> 03:54:07,164 Council PRESIDENT LaCava and 6204 03:54:08,801 --> 03:54:09,501 council members. 6205 03:54:09,501 --> 03:54:09,835 I'm Ben Battaglia, Director of 6206 03:54:09,835 --> 03:54:10,536 Finance. 6207 03:54:10,536 --> 03:54:13,372 With me today is Amber 6208 03:54:13,372 --> 03:54:13,706 Gutierrez, financial operations 6209 03:54:13,706 --> 03:54:14,340 manager. 6210 03:54:14,340 --> 03:54:16,740 Today we'll be presenting 6211 03:54:17,676 --> 03:54:18,344 the fiscal year 2027 6212 03:54:18,344 --> 03:54:19,440 appropriation ordinance and 6213 03:54:19,440 --> 03:54:19,378 we'll need about five minutes 6214 03:54:19,378 --> 03:54:19,812 please. 6215 03:54:19,812 --> 03:54:21,812 >> All right. 6216 03:54:22,247 --> 03:54:24,247 When you're ready. 6217 03:54:25,517 --> 03:54:26,219 The city council approved 6218 03:54:26,219 --> 03:54:26,918 the fiscal year 2027 budget on 6219 03:54:26,918 --> 03:54:30,518 JUNE 9th and the mayor signed 6220 03:54:30,857 --> 03:54:31,190 the budget resolution on JUNE 6221 03:54:31,190 --> 03:54:31,657 11th. 6222 03:54:31,657 --> 03:54:32,357 The adoption of 6223 03:54:32,357 --> 03:54:34,757 the appropriation ordinance is 6224 03:54:36,362 --> 03:54:37,300 the final step in the fiscal 6225 03:54:37,300 --> 03:54:39,430 year 2027 budget process as 6226 03:54:41,367 --> 03:54:42,168 outlined in Charter section 69. 6227 03:54:42,168 --> 03:54:42,834 The aoa appropriates the budget 6228 03:54:42,834 --> 03:54:45,834 based on the two controlling 6229 03:54:46,339 --> 03:54:47,140 documents The salary ordinance 6230 03:54:47,140 --> 03:54:50,140 which sets the compensation for 6231 03:54:51,311 --> 03:54:51,844 city employees and the budget 6232 03:54:51,844 --> 03:54:52,545 resolution And this 6233 03:54:52,545 --> 03:54:54,945 incorporates the mayor's draft 6234 03:54:56,549 --> 03:54:57,283 budget as modified by the MAY 6235 03:54:57,283 --> 03:55:00,283 revision and the City Council's 6236 03:55:00,820 --> 03:55:01,588 additional modifications. 6237 03:55:01,588 --> 03:55:02,322 The purpose of the eo is to 6238 03:55:02,322 --> 03:55:05,491 define the legal level at which 6239 03:55:05,491 --> 03:55:06,590 the Mayor and the cfo are 6240 03:55:06,590 --> 03:55:06,793 authorized to control 6241 03:55:06,793 --> 03:55:09,193 operational and capital project 6242 03:55:10,162 --> 03:55:10,830 expenditures. 6243 03:55:10,830 --> 03:55:12,830 Additionally it facilitates 6244 03:55:13,700 --> 03:55:16,100 administration of the city's 6245 03:55:17,636 --> 03:55:18,304 $6.4 million for $6.4 billion 6246 03:55:18,304 --> 03:55:18,971 budget by providing certain 6247 03:55:18,971 --> 03:55:21,371 delegations of authority to 6248 03:55:22,709 --> 03:55:23,576 the Chief financial officer. 6249 03:55:23,576 --> 03:55:24,760 And this is mostly for routine 6250 03:55:24,760 --> 03:55:26,760 non policy items. 6251 03:55:26,646 --> 03:55:27,313 Charter Section 69 requires 6252 03:55:27,313 --> 03:55:28,481 that the City Council adopt 6253 03:55:28,481 --> 03:55:32,681 the aoe by JUNE 30th each each 6254 03:55:33,286 --> 03:55:34,530 year. 6255 03:55:34,530 --> 03:55:34,688 This year there are three 6256 03:55:34,688 --> 03:55:35,210 requested modifications to 6257 03:55:35,210 --> 03:55:37,210 the act. 6258 03:55:38,240 --> 03:55:41,240 The first is modifying section 6259 03:55:41,661 --> 03:55:42,429 2g2 and adding a new section 6260 03:55:42,429 --> 03:55:46,290 2g4 and this authorizes the cfo 6261 03:55:47,266 --> 03:55:47,968 to reallocate unobligated cdbg 6262 03:55:47,968 --> 03:55:50,368 balances to previously council 6263 03:55:52,105 --> 03:55:52,838 approved nonprofit facility 6264 03:55:52,838 --> 03:55:55,238 improvement projects to support 6265 03:55:57,430 --> 03:55:57,777 timely project completion. 6266 03:55:57,777 --> 03:55:58,511 This authority is to reallocate 6267 03:55:58,511 --> 03:56:01,511 funds for completed canceled or 6268 03:56:02,382 --> 03:56:03,490 ineligible cdbg projects to 6269 03:56:03,490 --> 03:56:05,490 eligible nonprofit facility 6270 03:56:07,387 --> 03:56:08,540 projects in line with 6271 03:56:08,540 --> 03:56:08,722 consolidated plan objectives 6272 03:56:08,722 --> 03:56:11,824 and will assist the city in 6273 03:56:11,824 --> 03:56:12,258 meeting federal timeliness 6274 03:56:12,258 --> 03:56:12,959 requirements. 6275 03:56:12,959 --> 03:56:15,959 Since this item was presented 6276 03:56:16,730 --> 03:56:17,430 to the budget and government 6277 03:56:17,430 --> 03:56:17,997 Efficiency Committee last week 6278 03:56:17,997 --> 03:56:18,732 we worked closely with 6279 03:56:18,732 --> 03:56:22,135 the Office of the aba to revise 6280 03:56:22,135 --> 03:56:22,769 the language to clarify 6281 03:56:22,769 --> 03:56:25,769 the intent of this section 6282 03:56:27,440 --> 03:56:28,141 including that authority to 6283 03:56:28,141 --> 03:56:28,775 appropriate balances on future 6284 03:56:28,775 --> 03:56:30,775 activities not previously 6285 03:56:32,120 --> 03:56:32,712 approved in the annual Action 6286 03:56:32,712 --> 03:56:36,312 Plan or are subject to Council 6287 03:56:36,516 --> 03:56:37,184 authorization and all uses of 6288 03:56:37,184 --> 03:56:37,851 this added authority will be 6289 03:56:37,851 --> 03:56:40,251 included in the consolidated 6290 03:56:41,288 --> 03:56:41,955 annual performance and 6291 03:56:41,955 --> 03:56:44,355 Evaluation Report each year. 6292 03:56:46,126 --> 03:56:46,827 The second update authorizes 6293 03:56:46,827 --> 03:56:47,461 the cfo to accept appropriate 6294 03:56:47,461 --> 03:56:50,461 and expend grants that are 6295 03:56:51,164 --> 03:56:51,631 awarded to the office of 6296 03:56:51,631 --> 03:56:52,232 the City Clerk. 6297 03:56:52,232 --> 03:56:52,933 The new section improves 6298 03:56:52,933 --> 03:56:54,933 administrative efficiency for 6299 03:56:55,702 --> 03:56:56,302 the city clerk's grant funded 6300 03:56:56,302 --> 03:56:57,600 projects and it expands 6301 03:56:57,600 --> 03:57:00,600 the city's ability to leverage 6302 03:57:03,110 --> 03:57:03,977 external funding sources. 6303 03:57:03,977 --> 03:57:06,977 And the third update removes 6304 03:57:07,113 --> 03:57:07,815 section 2b8 and this removes 6305 03:57:07,815 --> 03:57:08,514 the automated refuse container 6306 03:57:08,514 --> 03:57:11,418 fund from the Special Revenue 6307 03:57:11,418 --> 03:57:12,119 Fund section with 6308 03:57:12,119 --> 03:57:12,686 the establishment of the Solid 6309 03:57:12,686 --> 03:57:14,686 Waste Management Fund. 6310 03:57:15,822 --> 03:57:16,523 This fund will be fully 6311 03:57:16,523 --> 03:57:17,224 exhausted and closed in fiscal 6312 03:57:17,224 --> 03:57:19,624 year 2026 and therefore this 6313 03:57:20,828 --> 03:57:21,494 section is no longer required. 6314 03:57:21,494 --> 03:57:22,162 And finally there are minor 6315 03:57:22,162 --> 03:57:24,162 language updates throughout 6316 03:57:25,666 --> 03:57:26,366 the document including updating 6317 03:57:26,366 --> 03:57:28,766 the fiscal year and 6318 03:57:30,804 --> 03:57:31,572 the recitals. 6319 03:57:31,572 --> 03:57:32,272 >> Included with this item are 6320 03:57:32,272 --> 03:57:34,672 the fiscal year 2027 operating 6321 03:57:35,209 --> 03:57:35,876 and capital appropriations 6322 03:57:35,876 --> 03:57:36,577 along with the annual change 6323 03:57:36,577 --> 03:57:39,879 letter as well as a signed 6324 03:57:39,879 --> 03:57:40,581 budget resolution. 6325 03:57:40,581 --> 03:57:41,215 Staff's recommendation is to 6326 03:57:41,215 --> 03:57:43,615 approve the fiscal year 27 6327 03:57:44,585 --> 03:57:45,286 Appropriation ordinance which 6328 03:57:45,286 --> 03:57:45,652 will codify the adopted budget 6329 03:57:45,652 --> 03:57:46,387 into law. 6330 03:57:46,387 --> 03:57:47,540 That concludes our presentation 6331 03:57:47,540 --> 03:57:49,790 and we're available for any 6332 03:57:49,790 --> 03:57:50,391 questions. 6333 03:57:50,391 --> 03:57:51,570 >> All right. 6334 03:57:51,570 --> 03:57:51,792 Thank you for the work and 6335 03:57:51,792 --> 03:57:54,662 thank you for the presentation. 6336 03:57:54,662 --> 03:57:55,194 Deputy Clerk Please proceed 6337 03:57:55,194 --> 03:57:55,629 with public comment. 6338 03:57:55,629 --> 03:57:57,629 >> Thank you. 6339 03:57:59,600 --> 03:58:00,670 We will begin with in-person 6340 03:58:00,670 --> 03:58:02,670 public comment. 6341 03:58:03,871 --> 03:58:06,871 Max Schmitt please come forward 6342 03:58:16,383 --> 03:58:17,151 if you will have two minutes on 6343 03:58:17,151 --> 03:58:19,551 finalizing this ordinance and 6344 03:58:21,589 --> 03:58:23,989 finalizing the fiscal year 27 6345 03:58:26,593 --> 03:58:27,261 tax limit is a big deal and I 6346 03:58:27,261 --> 03:58:30,861 just wanted to say that I'm 6347 03:58:31,699 --> 03:58:32,766 opposed to all city tax. 6348 03:58:32,766 --> 03:58:36,836 >> One of the things I saw in 6349 03:58:36,836 --> 03:58:39,236 there was a recycling 6350 03:58:40,875 --> 03:58:41,642 enterprise fund and I don't 6351 03:58:41,642 --> 03:58:44,642 think that money should be 6352 03:58:46,280 --> 03:58:46,981 taken from the people for 6353 03:58:46,981 --> 03:58:49,981 the climate agenda hoax that's 6354 03:58:51,585 --> 03:58:55,185 being pressed and I just wanted 6355 03:58:55,823 --> 03:58:56,523 to say that San Diego in their 6356 03:58:56,523 --> 03:58:57,324 general fund has about $2 6357 03:58:57,324 --> 03:59:00,324 billion that they get from 6358 03:59:05,499 --> 03:59:06,267 property sales on cannabis tax 6359 03:59:06,267 --> 03:59:09,267 And if that $2 billion they 6360 03:59:10,137 --> 03:59:10,905 provide fire and police safety 6361 03:59:10,905 --> 03:59:11,572 ,they operate the parks. 6362 03:59:11,572 --> 03:59:13,972 They operate the libraries. 6363 03:59:14,342 --> 03:59:14,975 And I just want to give a first 6364 03:59:14,975 --> 03:59:17,975 hand testimony of why I'm 6365 03:59:19,379 --> 03:59:20,470 opposed to San Diego Getting 6366 03:59:20,470 --> 03:59:20,982 taxes from a homeless person 6367 03:59:20,982 --> 03:59:23,982 who uses the libraries, uses 6368 03:59:26,354 --> 03:59:27,221 the parks. 6369 03:59:27,221 --> 03:59:27,989 And I just wanted to say that 6370 03:59:27,989 --> 03:59:30,989 I've been harassed by police 6371 03:59:31,758 --> 03:59:32,460 officers who believe it or not 6372 03:59:32,460 --> 03:59:36,600 this is going to sound crazy 6373 03:59:36,597 --> 03:59:40,197 but have actually exposed me to 6374 03:59:41,336 --> 03:59:42,700 squad cars teleporting on in 6375 03:59:42,700 --> 03:59:44,470 conjunction my private thoughts 6376 03:59:45,773 --> 03:59:46,473 and then literally said to me 6377 03:59:46,473 --> 03:59:47,750 police officers tried to scare 6378 03:59:47,750 --> 03:59:49,475 me saying you're getting 6379 03:59:51,245 --> 03:59:51,812 teleport traffic which was 6380 03:59:51,812 --> 03:59:52,447 the stupidest thing in 6381 03:59:52,447 --> 03:59:54,847 the world where freemason 6382 03:59:56,384 --> 03:59:56,985 luciferian is like I said 6383 03:59:56,985 --> 03:59:57,619 the police exposed me to 6384 03:59:57,619 --> 04:00:00,190 teleporting and then said 6385 04:00:01,355 --> 04:00:02,123 You're going to teleport 6386 04:00:02,123 --> 04:00:02,824 traffic is stupid And then at 6387 04:00:02,824 --> 04:00:05,192 the library on which taxes go 6388 04:00:05,192 --> 04:00:05,793 to support the library I get 6389 04:00:05,793 --> 04:00:06,461 surrounded by librarians 6390 04:00:06,461 --> 04:00:08,861 speaking gibberish trying to 6391 04:00:10,465 --> 04:00:11,650 make me go insane and then at 6392 04:00:11,650 --> 04:00:14,650 the parks the same thing 6393 04:00:15,303 --> 04:00:16,700 happens Park employees will 6394 04:00:16,700 --> 04:00:16,771 speak gibberish to make me go 6395 04:00:16,771 --> 04:00:20,371 insane and then the transit of 6396 04:00:21,109 --> 04:00:21,776 the transit police will also 6397 04:00:21,776 --> 04:00:22,543 try to make me go insane. 6398 04:00:22,543 --> 04:00:23,440 >> So I don't think San Diego 6399 04:00:23,440 --> 04:00:23,711 should begin any. 6400 04:00:23,711 --> 04:00:24,678 Thank you for your comments. 6401 04:00:24,678 --> 04:00:25,613 That does conclude your time. 6402 04:00:25,613 --> 04:00:28,613 Our next speaker is allegedly 6403 04:00:34,656 --> 04:00:35,890 Andrea sent not funny to 6404 04:00:35,890 --> 04:00:37,890 anybody else. 6405 04:00:39,193 --> 04:00:39,494 The only three people protested 6406 04:00:39,494 --> 04:00:40,161 . 6407 04:00:40,161 --> 04:00:40,495 Does that sound like good 6408 04:00:40,495 --> 04:00:40,795 numbers? 6409 04:00:40,795 --> 04:00:41,229 Right. 6410 04:00:41,229 --> 04:00:43,229 Good outreach. 6411 04:00:44,532 --> 04:00:45,266 I mean, Anyway, uh, that's just 6412 04:00:45,266 --> 04:00:48,806 so sad because these people are 6413 04:00:48,806 --> 04:00:49,104 going to have a rude awakening 6414 04:00:49,104 --> 04:00:49,504 . 6415 04:00:49,504 --> 04:00:50,205 Who knows? 6416 04:00:50,205 --> 04:00:51,390 Just the things change or that 6417 04:00:51,390 --> 04:00:53,642 I mean, sure, it gets less 6418 04:00:53,642 --> 04:00:54,375 whatever. 6419 04:00:54,375 --> 04:00:57,375 Yes, This is interesting, Sean. 6420 04:00:58,460 --> 04:00:58,813 Be creative with less Right? 6421 04:00:58,813 --> 04:00:59,414 I mean, don't you guys think 6422 04:00:59,414 --> 04:01:00,348 that you could do that? 6423 04:01:00,348 --> 04:01:03,185 I think that should be an 6424 04:01:03,185 --> 04:01:03,852 ordinance that you guys create. 6425 04:01:03,852 --> 04:01:04,519 You know, I mean because 6426 04:01:04,519 --> 04:01:07,519 the mayor it's like absolute 6427 04:01:07,922 --> 04:01:08,790 power corrupts obviously. 6428 04:01:08,790 --> 04:01:12,661 And then a couple of you guys 6429 04:01:12,661 --> 04:01:13,328 want to be mayor so it'll be 6430 04:01:13,328 --> 04:01:13,695 interesting to see how that 6431 04:01:13,695 --> 04:01:14,328 plays out. 6432 04:01:14,328 --> 04:01:16,798 But wouldn't it be good if 6433 04:01:16,798 --> 04:01:17,498 there was an ordinance for real 6434 04:01:17,498 --> 04:01:18,233 when we have to do with 6435 04:01:18,233 --> 04:01:21,770 the budget that it's like let's 6436 04:01:21,770 --> 04:01:22,637 see how much we can cut back 6437 04:01:22,637 --> 04:01:26,837 your funds and see how much you 6438 04:01:27,175 --> 04:01:27,776 can do with less and I mean I'm 6439 04:01:27,776 --> 04:01:28,243 telling you you guys get 6440 04:01:28,243 --> 04:01:30,243 creative, right? 6441 04:01:32,470 --> 04:01:32,781 Sean Don't you guys feel like 6442 04:01:32,781 --> 04:01:33,181 you could do a lot more with 6443 04:01:33,181 --> 04:01:33,515 less money? 6444 04:01:33,515 --> 04:01:35,515 I do. 6445 04:01:36,717 --> 04:01:37,486 I feel like you guys would be 6446 04:01:37,486 --> 04:01:41,356 very good and you could do like 6447 04:01:41,356 --> 04:01:42,900 a competition where you see who 6448 04:01:42,900 --> 04:01:42,391 you know comes up with the best 6449 04:01:42,391 --> 04:01:44,391 ideas. 6450 04:01:46,280 --> 04:01:46,694 I'm telling you I mean people 6451 04:01:46,694 --> 04:01:47,950 have to do it out in 6452 04:01:47,950 --> 04:01:49,950 the public. 6453 04:01:50,565 --> 04:01:51,366 You could even have a citizen 6454 04:01:51,366 --> 04:01:54,966 board of people that would come 6455 04:01:55,704 --> 04:01:56,371 in and be like This is what we 6456 04:01:56,371 --> 04:01:59,971 could do with less and we'll 6457 04:02:00,441 --> 04:02:01,142 get more with it Telling you 6458 04:02:01,142 --> 04:02:01,876 people like on their budget 6459 04:02:01,876 --> 04:02:02,777 just to go to the grocery store 6460 04:02:02,777 --> 04:02:06,548 it's like I mean you can't buy 6461 04:02:06,548 --> 04:02:07,282 organic but you sure make sure 6462 04:02:07,282 --> 04:02:09,585 I mean I remember being a kid 6463 04:02:09,585 --> 04:02:10,419 and I was like I could live off 6464 04:02:10,419 --> 04:02:10,752 of 20 bucks for a week and I 6465 04:02:10,752 --> 04:02:12,752 did it. 6466 04:02:13,455 --> 04:02:14,156 I mean it's possible So I feel 6467 04:02:14,156 --> 04:02:14,857 like we should be really good 6468 04:02:14,857 --> 04:02:17,857 stewards of the people's money 6469 04:02:19,610 --> 04:02:19,361 and seeing what we can do 6470 04:02:19,361 --> 04:02:20,620 again. 6471 04:02:20,620 --> 04:02:20,429 You guys are going to have to 6472 04:02:20,429 --> 04:02:22,429 take cuts. 6473 04:02:22,931 --> 04:02:23,699 You're not going to be able to 6474 04:02:23,699 --> 04:02:24,366 ,you know, wear those fancy 6475 04:02:24,366 --> 04:02:24,666 suits and ride your electric 6476 04:02:24,666 --> 04:02:26,666 bikes. 6477 04:02:28,470 --> 04:02:29,138 But at least the people won't 6478 04:02:29,138 --> 04:02:29,805 be suffering as much, right? 6479 04:02:29,805 --> 04:02:32,805 Because you're not going to 6480 04:02:32,875 --> 04:02:33,341 take as much from us. 6481 04:02:33,341 --> 04:02:34,760 It'll be good. 6482 04:02:34,760 --> 04:02:34,710 I think that that should be 6483 04:02:34,710 --> 04:02:37,212 something you guys work on 6484 04:02:37,212 --> 04:02:37,646 lickety Split and I know you 6485 04:02:37,646 --> 04:02:38,313 well. 6486 04:02:38,313 --> 04:02:38,614 Thank you That include your 6487 04:02:38,614 --> 04:02:40,614 time. 6488 04:02:51,460 --> 04:02:51,829 Next speaker is Anthony Ralphs 6489 04:02:51,829 --> 04:02:52,428 . 6490 04:02:52,428 --> 04:02:53,128 Good afternoon City council. 6491 04:02:53,128 --> 04:02:53,829 Just want to let you know can 6492 04:02:53,829 --> 04:02:56,632 Lee I didn't forget about you. 6493 04:02:56,632 --> 04:02:56,932 I got you these flowers as 6494 04:02:56,932 --> 04:02:57,900 well. 6495 04:02:57,900 --> 04:03:01,103 This is a sign a gesture of 6496 04:03:01,103 --> 04:03:01,603 appreciation for the change of 6497 04:03:01,603 --> 04:03:03,603 position on flock. 6498 04:03:05,273 --> 04:03:06,750 It means a lot to us residents 6499 04:03:06,750 --> 04:03:06,809 in San Diego that you're taking 6500 04:03:06,809 --> 04:03:09,209 our privacy concerns seriously. 6501 04:03:10,678 --> 04:03:11,380 And I know that it was within 6502 04:03:11,380 --> 04:03:11,913 the context of a budget crisis 6503 04:03:11,913 --> 04:03:12,680 that we're still in. 6504 04:03:12,680 --> 04:03:15,718 And I know that you explained 6505 04:03:15,718 --> 04:03:16,419 that given the circumstances, 6506 04:03:16,419 --> 04:03:19,419 if we could afford everything 6507 04:03:20,388 --> 04:03:21,230 you would still prefer to have 6508 04:03:21,230 --> 04:03:21,323 this type of technology in 6509 04:03:21,323 --> 04:03:23,323 place. 6510 04:03:25,600 --> 04:03:25,694 And while that position is 6511 04:03:25,694 --> 04:03:26,395 hopefully one that you'll 6512 04:03:26,395 --> 04:03:28,795 reconsider when you reevaluate 6513 04:03:29,998 --> 04:03:30,666 when you look into all of 6514 04:03:30,666 --> 04:03:34,266 the harm that Floc has been 6515 04:03:34,870 --> 04:03:35,638 causing throughout the city, 6516 04:03:35,638 --> 04:03:36,305 hopefully that can weigh in on 6517 04:03:36,305 --> 04:03:38,705 your mindset moving forward. 6518 04:03:39,341 --> 04:03:39,942 Hopefully it's not just 6519 04:03:39,942 --> 04:03:41,942 something that's solely 6520 04:03:43,712 --> 04:03:44,279 predicated upon the fiscal 6521 04:03:44,279 --> 04:03:44,913 situation that we find 6522 04:03:44,913 --> 04:03:45,680 ourselves in which is only 6523 04:03:45,680 --> 04:03:48,918 going to get worse until we 6524 04:03:48,918 --> 04:03:49,652 address the root systemic 6525 04:03:49,652 --> 04:03:53,252 issues of this problem which is 6526 04:03:53,756 --> 04:03:54,523 a totally unaccountable police 6527 04:03:54,523 --> 04:03:55,224 force and a city council or 6528 04:03:55,224 --> 04:03:58,824 only half of a city council 6529 04:03:58,894 --> 04:03:59,228 that's willing to address that 6530 04:03:59,228 --> 04:03:59,896 problem. 6531 04:03:59,896 --> 04:04:00,529 The other half I'm concerned 6532 04:04:00,529 --> 04:04:02,929 about because they're not 6533 04:04:04,166 --> 04:04:04,800 making eye contact with me and 6534 04:04:04,800 --> 04:04:05,468 I'm addressing them and it 6535 04:04:05,468 --> 04:04:07,870 looks like they're on their 6536 04:04:07,870 --> 04:04:08,537 phones right now as I'm 6537 04:04:08,537 --> 04:04:09,238 speaking to them And it's 6538 04:04:09,238 --> 04:04:11,638 disrespectful And there's a 6539 04:04:14,176 --> 04:04:14,810 number of council members that 6540 04:04:14,810 --> 04:04:15,478 aren't even here right now 6541 04:04:15,478 --> 04:04:17,878 including Marni von Wilpert. 6542 04:04:18,280 --> 04:04:19,140 And I know that this is 6543 04:04:19,140 --> 04:04:19,481 something that's frustrated you 6544 04:04:19,481 --> 04:04:20,149 LaCava as well. 6545 04:04:20,149 --> 04:04:22,549 You've mentioned it multiple 6546 04:04:23,486 --> 04:04:24,120 times It's it's disrespect for 6547 04:04:24,120 --> 04:04:24,620 the people of San Diego to 6548 04:04:24,620 --> 04:04:26,620 the constituents. 6549 04:04:28,558 --> 04:04:29,325 You know y'all are being paid 6550 04:04:29,325 --> 04:04:30,126 well and we spend a lot of our 6551 04:04:30,126 --> 04:04:33,620 time and a lot of our money to 6552 04:04:33,620 --> 04:04:33,762 come out here and to have these 6553 04:04:33,762 --> 04:04:34,530 two minutes to be able to 6554 04:04:34,530 --> 04:04:38,130 address you and the least that 6555 04:04:38,134 --> 04:04:38,768 y'all can do is look at us and 6556 04:04:38,768 --> 04:04:41,768 make eye contact with us. 6557 04:04:42,372 --> 04:04:43,720 MISS Campbell MR. Whitburn, as 6558 04:04:43,720 --> 04:04:45,472 we're addressing you directly 6559 04:04:47,610 --> 04:04:48,770 thank you. 6560 04:04:48,770 --> 04:04:48,745 Thank you. 6561 04:04:48,745 --> 04:04:51,145 That does conclude in-person 6562 04:04:51,680 --> 04:04:52,515 public comment. 6563 04:04:52,515 --> 04:04:52,982 We will now turn to virtual 6564 04:04:52,982 --> 04:04:54,982 public comment. 6565 04:04:55,485 --> 04:04:56,219 I've started the five minute 6566 04:04:56,219 --> 04:04:59,819 timer in the committee room and 6567 04:05:00,623 --> 04:05:01,257 there are currently there is 6568 04:05:01,257 --> 04:05:01,791 currently one participant 6569 04:05:01,791 --> 04:05:03,791 requesting to speak. 6570 04:05:06,620 --> 04:05:08,998 So we will go to caller with 6571 04:05:08,998 --> 04:05:11,398 the last four digits 8700 6572 04:05:13,602 --> 04:05:14,103 please begin. 6573 04:05:14,103 --> 04:05:15,138 Thank you. 6574 04:05:15,138 --> 04:05:18,440 First off point for just a few 6575 04:05:18,440 --> 04:05:19,142 seconds. 6576 04:05:19,142 --> 04:05:22,142 Thank you, PRESIDENT Lacob for 6577 04:05:23,379 --> 04:05:26,379 giving me the clarity on 6578 04:05:28,551 --> 04:05:29,850 the sdb sdg Any item that we 6579 04:05:29,850 --> 04:05:31,850 really appreciated. 6580 04:05:32,555 --> 04:05:33,322 And then Councilmember Marino. 6581 04:05:33,322 --> 04:05:35,722 Five stars for that 6582 04:05:37,960 --> 04:05:38,695 storytelling. 6583 04:05:38,695 --> 04:05:39,161 Does everybody notice the power 6584 04:05:39,161 --> 04:05:41,161 of storytelling? 6585 04:05:43,366 --> 04:05:46,966 That was an example on me 6586 04:05:47,503 --> 04:05:47,970 picking up the trash story That 6587 04:05:47,970 --> 04:05:48,271 was five stars. 6588 04:05:48,271 --> 04:05:50,271 Okay. 6589 04:05:52,275 --> 04:05:55,875 So on the item itself please 6590 04:05:57,647 --> 04:05:58,381 let's work on open 6591 04:05:58,381 --> 04:06:00,381 communication and collaboration 6592 04:06:02,519 --> 04:06:02,919 between all branches of 6593 04:06:02,919 --> 04:06:03,219 government. 6594 04:06:03,219 --> 04:06:03,987 Okay. 6595 04:06:03,987 --> 04:06:08,187 I think this is a very, very 6596 04:06:08,625 --> 04:06:09,492 important it's kind of a dicey 6597 04:06:09,492 --> 04:06:13,960 I have an item to me for some 6598 04:06:13,960 --> 04:06:13,496 reason but I want that kind of 6599 04:06:13,496 --> 04:06:14,130 improvement. 6600 04:06:14,130 --> 04:06:14,430 The public really deserves 6601 04:06:14,430 --> 04:06:16,430 that. 6602 04:06:17,701 --> 04:06:21,901 Now on the update with the item 6603 04:06:23,139 --> 04:06:23,806 involving c, d, b, g a little 6604 04:06:23,806 --> 04:06:24,474 concern on the project, this 6605 04:06:24,474 --> 04:06:27,577 goes way back with me when I 6606 04:06:27,577 --> 04:06:31,715 used to really put time in on 6607 04:06:31,715 --> 04:06:32,415 that some of the projects fail 6608 04:06:32,415 --> 04:06:33,116 and I can't remember if 6609 04:06:33,116 --> 04:06:35,516 the training was inappropriate 6610 04:06:36,253 --> 04:06:36,720 or the application was 6611 04:06:36,720 --> 04:06:37,421 inappropriate. 6612 04:06:37,421 --> 04:06:41,210 But let's make sure that we're 6613 04:06:42,325 --> 04:06:42,993 handling all those projects for 6614 04:06:42,993 --> 04:06:43,693 those wonderful people that 6615 04:06:43,693 --> 04:06:44,528 want to do them And I think a 6616 04:06:44,528 --> 04:06:48,128 lot of them are low income 6617 04:06:48,198 --> 04:06:48,498 people having a dream come 6618 04:06:48,498 --> 04:06:50,498 true. 6619 04:06:53,103 --> 04:06:53,803 So I don't know exactly how I'm 6620 04:06:53,803 --> 04:06:54,504 saying that in the right way 6621 04:06:54,504 --> 04:06:55,339 but if I'm helping I hope so. 6622 04:06:55,339 --> 04:06:58,175 And then one thing I hope you 6623 04:06:58,175 --> 04:06:58,809 have time to read This is 6624 04:06:58,809 --> 04:06:59,509 the Department of Finance. 6625 04:06:59,509 --> 04:07:02,512 The whole thing is a quote As 6626 04:07:02,512 --> 04:07:03,213 the city continues to address 6627 04:07:03,213 --> 04:07:03,913 the structural budget deficit, 6628 04:07:03,913 --> 04:07:06,313 the importance of maintaining 6629 04:07:08,151 --> 04:07:08,852 cash reserves to strengthen 6630 04:07:08,852 --> 04:07:11,852 the city's fiscal position and 6631 04:07:13,557 --> 04:07:15,557 effectively manage potential 6632 04:07:18,262 --> 04:07:18,896 future economic downturns has 6633 04:07:18,896 --> 04:07:21,131 never been more critical. 6634 04:07:21,131 --> 04:07:21,497 Thank you for your time. 6635 04:07:21,497 --> 04:07:23,497 Thank you. 6636 04:07:27,237 --> 04:07:27,871 Thank you. 6637 04:07:27,871 --> 04:07:28,505 >> That concludes public 6638 04:07:28,505 --> 04:07:28,872 testimony and item 5 or 5. 6639 04:07:28,872 --> 04:07:29,473 All right. 6640 04:07:29,473 --> 04:07:31,873 Thank you, Deputy Clerk. 6641 04:07:33,110 --> 04:07:33,844 Will now turn over to council 6642 04:07:33,844 --> 04:07:34,511 members for questions, Comments 6643 04:07:34,511 --> 04:07:35,112 Entertain a motion and we'll 6644 04:07:35,112 --> 04:07:38,800 start with the chair of 6645 04:07:38,800 --> 04:07:38,649 the Budget Committee. 6646 04:07:38,649 --> 04:07:39,115 Council member Foster. 6647 04:07:39,115 --> 04:07:41,115 Yes, Thank you. 6648 04:07:43,454 --> 04:07:44,221 Council PRESIDENT And Rolando 6649 04:07:44,221 --> 04:07:45,220 I'm sorry Thank you for 6650 04:07:45,220 --> 04:07:48,220 the presentation and thank you 6651 04:07:49,126 --> 04:07:49,960 for addressing the cdbg item. 6652 04:07:49,960 --> 04:07:52,960 You know our discussion in 6653 04:07:55,132 --> 04:07:55,899 committee. 6654 04:07:55,899 --> 04:07:56,500 So with that I will move 6655 04:07:56,500 --> 04:07:56,867 staff's recommendation. 6656 04:07:56,867 --> 04:07:57,501 All right. 6657 04:07:57,501 --> 04:07:58,680 Thank you Council member. 6658 04:07:58,680 --> 04:08:00,804 So we have a motion by 6659 04:08:00,804 --> 04:08:01,338 Councilmember Foster to move 6660 04:08:01,338 --> 04:08:02,380 the recommendation. 6661 04:08:02,380 --> 04:08:02,339 We'll go next to Councilmember 6662 04:08:02,339 --> 04:08:03,700 Campo. 6663 04:08:03,700 --> 04:08:03,707 Thank you Council PRESIDENT 6664 04:08:03,707 --> 04:08:07,307 Thank you to our Department of 6665 04:08:07,411 --> 04:08:08,770 Finance and our city attorney's 6666 04:08:08,770 --> 04:08:08,379 office for the good work on 6667 04:08:08,379 --> 04:08:09,120 this. 6668 04:08:09,120 --> 04:08:09,913 >> I'll second All right. 6669 04:08:09,913 --> 04:08:10,614 We have a motion by 6670 04:08:10,614 --> 04:08:11,281 Councilmember Foster or second 6671 04:08:11,281 --> 04:08:11,982 by Councilmember Champion to 6672 04:08:11,982 --> 04:08:14,382 move the staff recommendation 6673 04:08:14,552 --> 04:08:15,185 And I'll just quickly add my 6674 04:08:15,185 --> 04:08:16,200 thanks for the good work. 6675 04:08:16,200 --> 04:08:16,787 I know there's a lot that goes 6676 04:08:16,787 --> 04:08:19,787 into this And responding to 6677 04:08:20,691 --> 04:08:22,691 Councilmember Foster's concern 6678 04:08:25,290 --> 04:08:25,896 the cbd are a tricky thing and 6679 04:08:25,896 --> 04:08:26,530 you all do a great job of 6680 04:08:26,530 --> 04:08:28,530 navigating the challenges 6681 04:08:32,536 --> 04:08:33,303 associated with that So with 6682 04:08:33,303 --> 04:08:34,300 that again we have a motion by 6683 04:08:34,300 --> 04:08:34,605 Councilmember Foster, a second 6684 04:08:34,605 --> 04:08:36,540 by Councilmember Campo. 6685 04:08:36,540 --> 04:08:37,240 Deputy Clerk Call the roll 6686 04:08:37,240 --> 04:08:37,975 after the voting system please 6687 04:08:37,975 --> 04:08:38,509 cast your vote and they'll need 6688 04:08:38,509 --> 04:08:40,909 a verbal vote from 6689 04:08:42,947 --> 04:08:43,680 Councilmember Campbell and 6690 04:08:43,680 --> 04:08:43,948 Councilmember William Campbell. 6691 04:08:43,948 --> 04:08:44,214 Yes. 6692 04:08:44,214 --> 04:08:46,214 Yes. 6693 04:08:58,529 --> 04:08:59,297 Thank you. 6694 04:08:59,297 --> 04:09:01,697 That item passes unanimously 6695 04:09:03,534 --> 04:09:03,868 with Council District five 6696 04:09:03,868 --> 04:09:04,168 absent. 6697 04:09:04,168 --> 04:09:06,168 Yeah. 6698 04:09:08,272 --> 04:09:08,740 So that's 818 yeses and one 6699 04:09:08,740 --> 04:09:10,740 absent, correct? 6700 04:09:14,412 --> 04:09:17,748 Yes we'll get it today Anyway 6701 04:09:17,748 --> 04:09:20,748 with that Deputy clerk please 6702 04:09:27,425 --> 04:09:28,250 introduce item 332 item 332 is 6703 04:09:28,250 --> 04:09:28,693 the fiscal year 2027 tax 6704 04:09:28,693 --> 04:09:31,930 appropriations when it began 6705 04:09:33,731 --> 04:09:34,465 when it And with that staff 6706 04:09:34,465 --> 04:09:35,166 please introduce yourself again 6707 04:09:35,166 --> 04:09:39,337 for this item and let us know 6708 04:09:39,337 --> 04:09:39,970 what time you need. 6709 04:09:39,970 --> 04:09:40,638 >> Good afternoon Council 6710 04:09:40,638 --> 04:09:40,971 PRESIDENT Lacob and Council 6711 04:09:40,971 --> 04:09:41,672 Members. 6712 04:09:41,672 --> 04:09:44,375 I'm Ben Battaglia, director of 6713 04:09:44,375 --> 04:09:45,109 Finance and with me is Amber 6714 04:09:45,109 --> 04:09:45,442 Gutierrez, financial operations 6715 04:09:45,442 --> 04:09:46,110 manager. 6716 04:09:46,110 --> 04:09:49,110 We're here today to present 6717 04:09:49,647 --> 04:09:50,381 the fiscal year 2027 tax 6718 04:09:50,381 --> 04:09:51,810 appropriations limit also known 6719 04:09:51,810 --> 04:09:51,615 as the gambling And we'll need 6720 04:09:51,615 --> 04:09:51,983 about four minutes. 6721 04:09:51,983 --> 04:09:53,983 All right. 6722 04:09:54,585 --> 04:09:56,585 When you're ready. 6723 04:10:01,590 --> 04:10:01,726 In NOVEMBER of 1979, California 6724 04:10:01,726 --> 04:10:02,393 voters approved Proposition 6725 04:10:02,393 --> 04:10:02,794 four, also known as the gan 6726 04:10:02,794 --> 04:10:03,461 initiative. 6727 04:10:03,461 --> 04:10:05,861 This legislation requires a 6728 04:10:07,298 --> 04:10:07,999 governing body of each local 6729 04:10:07,999 --> 04:10:08,700 jurisdiction in California to 6730 04:10:08,700 --> 04:10:11,100 establish a tax appropriations 6731 04:10:13,300 --> 04:10:13,671 limit and this is a restriction 6732 04:10:13,671 --> 04:10:14,405 on the amount of tax revenue 6733 04:10:14,405 --> 04:10:18,500 that can be appropriated in any 6734 04:10:18,977 --> 04:10:19,744 fiscal year. 6735 04:10:19,744 --> 04:10:20,445 Local jurisdictions can choose 6736 04:10:20,445 --> 04:10:21,790 among four adjustment factors 6737 04:10:21,790 --> 04:10:23,479 which includes measures of 6738 04:10:25,717 --> 04:10:26,283 inflation and population growth 6739 04:10:26,283 --> 04:10:26,784 to complete the final 6740 04:10:26,784 --> 04:10:28,784 adjustment factor. 6741 04:10:30,788 --> 04:10:31,523 The measures for inflation or 6742 04:10:31,523 --> 04:10:32,257 price factors include growth in 6743 04:10:32,257 --> 04:10:35,257 California per capita income or 6744 04:10:37,662 --> 04:10:38,362 growth in the city's gross 6745 04:10:38,362 --> 04:10:39,290 assessed valuation due to new 6746 04:10:39,290 --> 04:10:41,290 nonresidential construction 6747 04:10:42,667 --> 04:10:43,368 which measure which measures 6748 04:10:43,368 --> 04:10:44,200 While measures for population 6749 04:10:44,200 --> 04:10:46,200 growth include population 6750 04:10:48,940 --> 04:10:49,707 growth within the county or 6751 04:10:49,707 --> 04:10:50,308 the city, revenue subject to 6752 04:10:50,308 --> 04:10:53,308 the limit consist of tax 6753 04:10:54,546 --> 04:10:54,878 proceeds and state subventions 6754 04:10:54,878 --> 04:10:55,580 . 6755 04:10:55,580 --> 04:10:56,214 Tax proceeds include property 6756 04:10:56,214 --> 04:10:58,614 tax, sales tax, transient 6757 04:11:01,419 --> 04:11:01,745 occupancy tax and other local 6758 04:11:01,745 --> 04:11:02,420 taxes. 6759 04:11:02,420 --> 04:11:03,188 As a result, not all city 6760 04:11:03,188 --> 04:11:06,188 revenues are included in this 6761 04:11:07,580 --> 04:11:07,725 calculation The tax 6762 04:11:07,725 --> 04:11:10,125 appropriations limit must be 6763 04:11:11,630 --> 04:11:12,263 established on or before JUNE 6764 04:11:12,263 --> 04:11:12,897 30th each fiscal year for 6765 04:11:12,897 --> 04:11:15,297 the following fiscal year. 6766 04:11:16,400 --> 04:11:17,350 The fiscal year 27 can limit 6767 04:11:17,350 --> 04:11:17,636 calculation verifies that 6768 04:11:17,636 --> 04:11:19,636 appropriations are below 6769 04:11:21,873 --> 04:11:22,541 the limit in accordance with 6770 04:11:22,541 --> 04:11:24,541 Proposition 111 guidelines. 6771 04:11:28,120 --> 04:11:28,613 The fiscal year 2027 tax 6772 04:11:28,613 --> 04:11:29,214 appropriations limit was 6773 04:11:29,214 --> 04:11:29,747 calculated by adjusting 6774 04:11:29,747 --> 04:11:32,147 the prior year's tax 6775 04:11:34,520 --> 04:11:34,752 appropriations limit using one 6776 04:11:34,752 --> 04:11:37,152 of four annual adjustment 6777 04:11:39,558 --> 04:11:40,258 factors the recommended fiscal 6778 04:11:40,258 --> 04:11:40,858 year 27 adjustment factor uses 6779 04:11:40,858 --> 04:11:41,492 the percentage change in 6780 04:11:41,492 --> 04:11:43,892 assessed valuation in new 6781 04:11:45,697 --> 04:11:46,398 nonresidential construction and 6782 04:11:46,398 --> 04:11:46,964 the population factor based on 6783 04:11:46,964 --> 04:11:49,364 the percent growth in 6784 04:11:51,169 --> 04:11:51,837 the city's population. 6785 04:11:51,837 --> 04:11:54,837 And this results in an 6786 04:11:56,700 --> 04:11:56,341 adjustment factor of 1.1168 or 6787 04:11:56,341 --> 04:11:57,420 11.68%. 6788 04:11:57,420 --> 04:12:00,420 The adjustment factor is then 6789 04:12:01,813 --> 04:12:02,481 applied to the previous year's 6790 04:12:02,481 --> 04:12:04,481 appropriations limit of 6.29 6791 04:12:06,830 --> 04:12:06,718 billion resulting in a fiscal 6792 04:12:06,718 --> 04:12:07,319 year 27 tax appropriations 6793 04:12:07,319 --> 04:12:09,319 limit of 7.03 billion. 6794 04:12:12,190 --> 04:12:15,190 And again this is an 11.68% 6795 04:12:16,928 --> 04:12:17,595 increase over the fiscal year 6796 04:12:17,595 --> 04:12:18,363 26 tax appropriations limit. 6797 04:12:18,363 --> 04:12:21,963 I will note the fiscal year 26 6798 04:12:22,734 --> 04:12:25,134 tax appropriations limit was 6799 04:12:27,539 --> 04:12:28,239 revised from 6.24 billion to 6800 04:12:28,239 --> 04:12:28,840 6.29 billion following receipt 6801 04:12:28,840 --> 04:12:29,440 of a revised report from 6802 04:12:29,440 --> 04:12:30,410 the county which made a 6803 04:12:30,410 --> 04:12:32,441 correction to the city's 6804 04:12:33,444 --> 04:12:34,112 assessed valuation of 6805 04:12:34,112 --> 04:12:34,646 nonresidential construction 6806 04:12:34,646 --> 04:12:35,380 from the prior year. 6807 04:12:35,380 --> 04:12:38,980 And this revision has no impact 6808 04:12:39,484 --> 04:12:40,185 on the city's compliance with 6809 04:12:40,185 --> 04:12:42,585 the tax appropriations limit. 6810 04:12:44,589 --> 04:12:45,190 The fiscal year 27 tax 6811 04:12:45,190 --> 04:12:45,923 appropriations limit is 6812 04:12:45,923 --> 04:12:48,923 calculated to be 7.03 billion a 6813 04:12:50,729 --> 04:12:51,362 total adjusted appropriations 6814 04:12:51,362 --> 04:12:54,362 subject to this limit for 6815 04:12:55,400 --> 04:12:56,168 fiscal year 27 is 1.71 billion. 6816 04:12:56,168 --> 04:12:56,735 As a result, the fiscal year 27 6817 04:12:56,735 --> 04:12:58,735 tax appropriations are 6818 04:13:01,106 --> 04:13:01,607 projected to be below the limit 6819 04:13:01,607 --> 04:13:02,274 by 5.32 billion. 6820 04:13:02,274 --> 04:13:02,975 Staff's recommendation is to 6821 04:13:02,975 --> 04:13:05,375 approve the resolution to 6822 04:13:07,178 --> 04:13:07,813 establish a tax appropriations 6823 04:13:07,813 --> 04:13:08,280 limit of 7.03 billion for 6824 04:13:08,280 --> 04:13:10,280 fiscal year 27. 6825 04:13:13,719 --> 04:13:14,486 That concludes our presentation 6826 04:13:14,486 --> 04:13:15,870 and we're happy to answer any 6827 04:13:15,870 --> 04:13:15,520 questions you MAY have. 6828 04:13:15,520 --> 04:13:16,221 >> All right. 6829 04:13:16,221 --> 04:13:16,655 Thank you for the presentation 6830 04:13:16,655 --> 04:13:17,256 and the work. 6831 04:13:17,256 --> 04:13:20,920 I'll now turn it over to 6832 04:13:20,920 --> 04:13:20,459 the office of the ipa for 6833 04:13:20,459 --> 04:13:20,759 comments. 6834 04:13:20,759 --> 04:13:21,427 Great. 6835 04:13:21,427 --> 04:13:22,127 Thank you Council PRESIDENT, 6836 04:13:22,127 --> 04:13:22,795 council members and thank you 6837 04:13:22,795 --> 04:13:25,195 again for the presentation. 6838 04:13:25,498 --> 04:13:26,232 So this is really a routine 6839 04:13:26,232 --> 04:13:26,965 item that we take up every year 6840 04:13:26,965 --> 04:13:27,700 but it is worth taking a moment 6841 04:13:27,700 --> 04:13:31,700 to talk about what the gambling 6842 04:13:31,700 --> 04:13:31,737 bit tells us about the city's 6843 04:13:31,737 --> 04:13:32,404 overall level of resources. 6844 04:13:32,404 --> 04:13:35,541 As you heard, the gang limit 6845 04:13:35,541 --> 04:13:36,175 was established by 1979 a 6846 04:13:36,175 --> 04:13:36,876 statewide measure that was 6847 04:13:36,876 --> 04:13:37,543 implemented in 1980 and it set 6848 04:13:37,543 --> 04:13:41,447 a cap on the total amount of 6849 04:13:41,447 --> 04:13:42,181 tax revenue that the state as 6850 04:13:42,181 --> 04:13:42,815 well as any local government in 6851 04:13:42,815 --> 04:13:43,516 the state can appropriate. 6852 04:13:43,516 --> 04:13:47,352 And it tied that cap to actual 6853 04:13:47,352 --> 04:13:48,870 tax appropriations in 1979. 6854 04:13:48,870 --> 04:13:48,754 Again, as you heard, the limit 6855 04:13:48,754 --> 04:13:52,354 can be adjusted each year by 6856 04:13:53,425 --> 04:13:53,925 using several factors growth 6857 04:13:53,925 --> 04:13:54,627 and income growth 6858 04:13:54,627 --> 04:13:55,327 nonresidential assessed value 6859 04:13:55,327 --> 04:13:55,928 growth from the population of 6860 04:13:55,928 --> 04:13:58,928 the city of the county. 6861 04:13:59,131 --> 04:13:59,732 And this was done to recognize 6862 04:13:59,732 --> 04:14:00,399 that inflation exists in 6863 04:14:00,399 --> 04:14:01,100 the city's growth but still 6864 04:14:01,100 --> 04:14:03,500 with the underlying intention 6865 04:14:06,400 --> 04:14:06,605 of holding tax revenue near or 6866 04:14:06,605 --> 04:14:07,340 below those 1979 levels. 6867 04:14:07,340 --> 04:14:10,940 The adjustment to the gan limit 6868 04:14:11,444 --> 04:14:12,144 that you just heard would bring 6869 04:14:12,144 --> 04:14:12,545 the city's limit to just over 6870 04:14:12,545 --> 04:14:13,312 $7 billion. 6871 04:14:13,312 --> 04:14:16,912 Our actual tax revenue that is 6872 04:14:17,750 --> 04:14:18,417 subject to the gambling it for 6873 04:14:18,417 --> 04:14:19,510 the upcoming fiscal year is 6874 04:14:19,510 --> 04:14:21,510 estimated at $1.7 billion. 6875 04:14:23,656 --> 04:14:24,357 This tells us something about 6876 04:14:24,357 --> 04:14:24,991 our resources and this will be 6877 04:14:24,991 --> 04:14:27,391 inexact because the city's 6878 04:14:29,628 --> 04:14:30,262 economy does not precisely 6879 04:14:30,262 --> 04:14:30,963 track the four adjustment 6880 04:14:30,963 --> 04:14:31,597 factors in the city generally 6881 04:14:31,597 --> 04:14:32,297 uses the largest possible 6882 04:14:32,297 --> 04:14:32,665 factor One of three calculates 6883 04:14:32,665 --> 04:14:34,665 the limit. 6884 04:14:35,901 --> 04:14:36,269 But it's a very rough 6885 04:14:36,269 --> 04:14:36,936 shorthand. 6886 04:14:36,936 --> 04:14:38,936 The $5.3 billion difference 6887 04:14:41,390 --> 04:14:41,707 between our actual tax revenues 6888 04:14:41,707 --> 04:14:42,408 and the updated gambling It 6889 04:14:42,408 --> 04:14:45,408 illustrate that if the city's 6890 04:14:46,679 --> 04:14:47,312 tax revenues simply kept pace 6891 04:14:47,312 --> 04:14:47,981 since 1980 with growth in 6892 04:14:47,981 --> 04:14:50,381 income, property values and 6893 04:14:50,415 --> 04:14:51,117 population, the city would be 6894 04:14:51,117 --> 04:14:51,784 collecting roughly four times 6895 04:14:51,784 --> 04:14:52,830 the tax revenue that it does 6896 04:14:52,830 --> 04:14:54,830 today. 6897 04:14:55,688 --> 04:14:56,355 And this gap is one of the real 6898 04:14:56,355 --> 04:14:57,900 reasons that the investments 6899 04:14:57,900 --> 04:15:00,292 the city made in its operations 6900 04:15:00,292 --> 04:15:00,893 and the infrastructure 45 years 6901 04:15:00,893 --> 04:15:01,527 ago were in many cases 6902 04:15:01,527 --> 04:15:02,194 significantly larger than 6903 04:15:02,194 --> 04:15:02,562 the investments that it can 6904 04:15:02,562 --> 04:15:04,562 make now. 6905 04:15:06,132 --> 04:15:06,799 Now the constraints on 6906 04:15:06,799 --> 04:15:07,400 the city's resources are not 6907 04:15:07,400 --> 04:15:08,101 caused by the gambling. 6908 04:15:08,101 --> 04:15:08,801 They're instead the result of 6909 04:15:08,801 --> 04:15:11,737 how the city raises money and 6910 04:15:11,737 --> 04:15:12,710 what voters are willing to 6911 04:15:12,710 --> 04:15:12,807 approve. 6912 04:15:12,807 --> 04:15:13,439 But this annual item is a 6913 04:15:13,439 --> 04:15:14,730 useful reminder of the gap 6914 04:15:14,730 --> 04:15:17,730 between what the city once 6915 04:15:19,112 --> 04:15:19,812 invested in itself and what it 6916 04:15:19,812 --> 04:15:20,546 can afford to invest it today. 6917 04:15:20,546 --> 04:15:23,546 And this should also complicate 6918 04:15:23,583 --> 04:15:24,283 any notion that the city's 6919 04:15:24,283 --> 04:15:24,817 current budget issues are 6920 04:15:24,817 --> 04:15:25,418 simply the result of 6921 04:15:25,418 --> 04:15:27,418 overspending instead of 6922 04:15:30,890 --> 04:15:30,890 the larger part of that story 6923 04:15:30,890 --> 04:15:31,491 is that tax revenues have not 6924 04:15:31,491 --> 04:15:32,258 kept pace with growth of 6925 04:15:32,258 --> 04:15:36,329 the city or with the cost of 6926 04:15:36,329 --> 04:15:36,996 demands for programs and 6927 04:15:36,996 --> 04:15:37,563 infrastructure in the city. 6928 04:15:37,563 --> 04:15:38,231 We've just moved past 6929 04:15:38,231 --> 04:15:41,231 the adoption of a difficult 6930 04:15:42,535 --> 04:15:43,302 budget but it is worth keeping 6931 04:15:43,302 --> 04:15:43,970 this gap in mind as we go 6932 04:15:43,970 --> 04:15:44,503 through the rest of the year 6933 04:15:44,503 --> 04:15:45,204 and continue to have 6934 04:15:45,204 --> 04:15:47,604 discussions about the programs 6935 04:15:48,675 --> 04:15:49,241 and policies that this Council 6936 04:15:49,241 --> 04:15:49,609 would like to pursue. 6937 04:15:49,609 --> 04:15:50,110 Thank you. 6938 04:15:50,110 --> 04:15:50,477 Council PRESIDENT. 6939 04:15:50,477 --> 04:15:51,100 All right. 6940 04:15:51,100 --> 04:15:51,578 Thank you, Charles. 6941 04:15:51,578 --> 04:15:53,578 Always appreciate your 6942 04:15:53,846 --> 04:15:54,514 perspective. 6943 04:15:54,514 --> 04:15:55,147 And with that Deputy clerk, 6944 04:15:55,147 --> 04:15:55,481 please proceed with public 6945 04:15:55,481 --> 04:15:55,849 comment. 6946 04:15:55,849 --> 04:15:57,849 Thank you. 6947 04:16:00,754 --> 04:16:01,454 Council PRESIDENT We will begin 6948 04:16:01,454 --> 04:16:02,550 with in-person public comment. 6949 04:16:02,550 --> 04:16:02,389 Next minute please come 6950 04:16:02,389 --> 04:16:03,222 forward. 6951 04:16:03,222 --> 04:16:06,222 You'll have two minutes to 6952 04:16:09,329 --> 04:16:11,329 speak on. 6953 04:16:15,435 --> 04:16:16,236 I just want to say I was at 6954 04:16:16,236 --> 04:16:19,236 City Hall when they had 6955 04:16:20,500 --> 04:16:20,707 the fiscal year 2027 budget 6956 04:16:20,707 --> 04:16:21,374 finalized and it was a big 6957 04:16:21,374 --> 04:16:24,974 crowded day at city hall And 6958 04:16:26,120 --> 04:16:26,680 then now we have these final 6959 04:16:26,680 --> 04:16:26,980 two ordinances finalizing it 6960 04:16:26,980 --> 04:16:28,980 again. 6961 04:16:31,884 --> 04:16:32,585 And then I just want to say 6962 04:16:32,585 --> 04:16:33,186 that it's very interesting to 6963 04:16:33,186 --> 04:16:36,186 me that after the it's 6964 04:16:38,191 --> 04:16:38,825 finalized and we have the tax 6965 04:16:38,825 --> 04:16:39,159 revenue is stated at $1.7 6966 04:16:39,159 --> 04:16:41,159 billion. 6967 04:16:44,363 --> 04:16:45,650 It's very item three three to 6968 04:16:45,650 --> 04:16:45,364 the limit is very interesting 6969 04:16:45,364 --> 04:16:47,364 to me. 6970 04:16:49,602 --> 04:16:50,370 And the reason why is because 6971 04:16:50,370 --> 04:16:53,970 it's on just this kind of 6972 04:17:00,246 --> 04:17:01,140 random number of $7 billion and 6973 04:17:01,140 --> 04:17:01,480 on there $5 billion underneath 6974 04:17:01,480 --> 04:17:02,215 underneath that. 6975 04:17:02,215 --> 04:17:06,415 And I just want to say it's 6976 04:17:07,120 --> 04:17:07,756 just kind of interesting to 6977 04:17:07,756 --> 04:17:08,388 have this information item 6978 04:17:08,388 --> 04:17:09,122 right after everything is 6979 04:17:09,122 --> 04:17:13,930 finalized to say oh by the way, 6980 04:17:13,930 --> 04:17:13,960 there's a limit to how much 6981 04:17:13,960 --> 04:17:17,263 revenue we can make and it's 7 6982 04:17:17,263 --> 04:17:17,798 billion when when the revenue 6983 04:17:17,798 --> 04:17:18,532 is only 1.7 billion. 6984 04:17:18,532 --> 04:17:21,532 And the reason it's interesting 6985 04:17:22,602 --> 04:17:23,337 to me is the Chinese communist 6986 04:17:23,337 --> 04:17:24,710 Party has something called ten 6987 04:17:24,710 --> 04:17:27,671 year and 20 year plans laid out 6988 04:17:29,900 --> 04:17:29,710 And to me it almost reminds me 6989 04:17:29,710 --> 04:17:30,410 of something that the Chinese 6990 04:17:30,410 --> 04:17:32,810 Chinese Communist Party would 6991 04:17:34,515 --> 04:17:35,182 do as a ten year plan and 6992 04:17:35,182 --> 04:17:37,582 the gang limit presentation 6993 04:17:39,553 --> 04:17:40,287 even said that on revenues that 6994 04:17:40,287 --> 04:17:40,988 the revenues are not keeping up 6995 04:17:40,988 --> 04:17:44,588 with city growth and they want 6996 04:17:45,192 --> 04:17:45,859 revenues to be higher. 6997 04:17:45,859 --> 04:17:46,426 And I just can't imagine 6998 04:17:46,426 --> 04:17:47,127 the financial hardship 6999 04:17:47,127 --> 04:17:50,727 the people of San Diego would 7000 04:17:51,965 --> 04:17:52,765 have if if the gang limit was 7001 04:17:52,765 --> 04:17:55,765 reached this year and we 7002 04:17:56,170 --> 04:17:58,570 actually had $7 billion in 7003 04:18:03,430 --> 04:18:03,743 revenue all taxed on it just it 7004 04:18:03,743 --> 04:18:04,444 just almost seems like a very 7005 04:18:04,444 --> 04:18:07,444 interesting thing to have this 7006 04:18:08,382 --> 04:18:09,490 random gang limit after 7007 04:18:09,490 --> 04:18:11,449 the budget finalized Almost 7008 04:18:15,289 --> 04:18:15,990 seems like a a plan of sorts to 7009 04:18:15,990 --> 04:18:16,590 try to increase thinking that 7010 04:18:16,590 --> 04:18:18,990 does conclude your time 7011 04:18:26,435 --> 04:18:27,340 allegedly order the surely is 7012 04:18:27,340 --> 04:18:29,340 interesting never really 7013 04:18:31,939 --> 04:18:32,673 understood it before you get 7014 04:18:32,673 --> 04:18:33,373 really good education come into 7015 04:18:33,373 --> 04:18:36,373 meetings like this That's why 7016 04:18:37,478 --> 04:18:38,179 people should pay attention. 7017 04:18:38,179 --> 04:18:38,879 But it's interesting that you 7018 04:18:38,879 --> 04:18:43,790 set the limit of like how much 7019 04:18:44,318 --> 04:18:45,520 you guys can spend. 7020 04:18:45,520 --> 04:18:45,752 Like what if your children were 7021 04:18:45,752 --> 04:18:46,420 like I'm going to tell you how 7022 04:18:46,420 --> 04:18:47,121 much you can spend on me and 7023 04:18:47,121 --> 04:18:50,570 it's like a billion bucks and 7024 04:18:50,570 --> 04:18:50,758 you better spend it And if you 7025 04:18:50,758 --> 04:18:51,459 don't you better give me that 7026 04:18:51,459 --> 04:18:52,126 money back, you know, because 7027 04:18:52,126 --> 04:18:55,126 you guys it's like obviously 7028 04:18:56,970 --> 04:18:56,864 you're going to come in below 7029 04:18:56,864 --> 04:18:57,665 that but it makes it look good 7030 04:18:57,665 --> 04:19:01,265 that like we're coming in below 7031 04:19:01,535 --> 04:19:02,169 our limit And it's just 7032 04:19:02,169 --> 04:19:02,869 interesting to see the way 7033 04:19:02,869 --> 04:19:03,537 the government works how it's 7034 04:19:03,537 --> 04:19:07,137 like you know, you set your 7035 04:19:08,442 --> 04:19:09,142 policies and like you want to 7036 04:19:09,142 --> 04:19:12,142 keep people in compliance with 7037 04:19:13,646 --> 04:19:14,315 your policies but doesn't 7038 04:19:14,315 --> 04:19:14,648 really matter if they break 7039 04:19:14,648 --> 04:19:15,382 the law. 7040 04:19:15,382 --> 04:19:16,820 It's like you can break the law 7041 04:19:16,820 --> 04:19:19,420 but just follow the policy and 7042 04:19:19,420 --> 04:19:20,121 like we'll do all this nonsense 7043 04:19:20,121 --> 04:19:20,654 to pretend like we're holding 7044 04:19:20,654 --> 04:19:22,654 people accountable. 7045 04:19:24,926 --> 04:19:25,626 It's just you know But when 7046 04:19:25,626 --> 04:19:26,360 you're setting your own limits 7047 04:19:26,360 --> 04:19:26,994 I mean like you're going to set 7048 04:19:26,994 --> 04:19:27,527 it to a place where you're 7049 04:19:27,527 --> 04:19:29,927 going to exceed it. 7050 04:19:30,531 --> 04:19:30,932 I mean obviously you would not 7051 04:19:30,932 --> 04:19:31,799 be stupid. 7052 04:19:31,799 --> 04:19:35,999 I mean but it's also sad to 7053 04:19:36,704 --> 04:19:37,371 see, you know, people come in 7054 04:19:37,371 --> 04:19:40,971 and give you guys, you know, 7055 04:19:43,310 --> 04:19:44,111 accolades and appreciation for 7056 04:19:44,111 --> 04:19:44,679 votes and you know, I'm used to 7057 04:19:44,679 --> 04:19:45,212 you guys not looking. 7058 04:19:45,212 --> 04:19:47,612 It's like it's fine. 7059 04:19:49,984 --> 04:19:50,718 I mean enjoy do appreciate even 7060 04:19:50,718 --> 04:19:51,419 though half the time your faces 7061 04:19:51,419 --> 04:19:52,152 are kind of funny because but 7062 04:19:52,152 --> 04:19:55,152 you're you're you're you're not 7063 04:19:55,856 --> 04:19:56,523 on your phone you know you're 7064 04:19:56,523 --> 04:19:57,224 you're sometimes I feel like 7065 04:19:57,224 --> 04:19:57,925 you're in la la land It's okay 7066 04:19:57,925 --> 04:20:00,925 but you're you're you know 7067 04:20:01,595 --> 04:20:02,330 listening which you can get 7068 04:20:02,330 --> 04:20:03,300 into that mode But it's like I 7069 04:20:03,300 --> 04:20:06,630 mean if you guys treated your 7070 04:20:07,268 --> 04:20:07,969 or if your staff treated you 7071 04:20:07,969 --> 04:20:08,636 this way if your staff while 7072 04:20:08,636 --> 04:20:09,370 you were talking to them was 7073 04:20:09,370 --> 04:20:12,840 looking down on their phone you 7074 04:20:12,840 --> 04:20:13,675 would fire them immediately. 7075 04:20:13,675 --> 04:20:14,642 You wouldn't put up with it. 7076 04:20:14,642 --> 04:20:18,242 But yet people we pay your 7077 04:20:19,180 --> 04:20:19,881 paycheck and you guys can't 7078 04:20:19,881 --> 04:20:20,548 even give people the courtesy 7079 04:20:20,548 --> 04:20:24,148 of even saying thank you for 7080 04:20:24,885 --> 04:20:25,787 something like that. 7081 04:20:25,787 --> 04:20:26,860 I mean he didn't have to do 7082 04:20:26,860 --> 04:20:26,821 that. 7083 04:20:26,821 --> 04:20:27,555 He spent his own money doing it 7084 04:20:27,555 --> 04:20:30,524 And just the fact that you guys 7085 04:20:30,524 --> 04:20:31,192 don't even acknowledge it just 7086 04:20:31,192 --> 04:20:34,192 shows you that doesn't work 7087 04:20:36,864 --> 04:20:37,598 with your time. 7088 04:20:37,598 --> 04:20:38,268 I have started the five minute 7089 04:20:38,268 --> 04:20:38,900 timer in the committee room. 7090 04:20:38,900 --> 04:20:41,900 We'll now turn to virtual 7091 04:20:42,770 --> 04:20:43,338 the virtual queue which there 7092 04:20:43,338 --> 04:20:43,972 are currently just one 7093 04:20:43,972 --> 04:20:44,272 participant requesting to 7094 04:20:44,272 --> 04:20:46,272 speak. 7095 04:20:48,810 --> 04:20:49,511 So we will begin with caller 7096 04:20:49,511 --> 04:20:52,511 with the last four digits 8700 7097 04:20:54,115 --> 04:20:56,115 please begin. 7098 04:20:59,820 --> 04:21:00,588 Thank you. 7099 04:21:00,588 --> 04:21:00,989 Excuse me a deputy city Clerk 7100 04:21:00,989 --> 04:21:01,489 Two minutes. 7101 04:21:01,489 --> 04:21:03,489 Yes, two minutes. 7102 04:21:06,861 --> 04:21:08,861 Thank you Joy. 7103 04:21:11,565 --> 04:21:12,434 Assuming I've never spoken on 7104 04:21:12,434 --> 04:21:16,634 this item and I wasn't going to 7105 04:21:17,906 --> 04:21:18,773 speak So this is off the top of 7106 04:21:18,773 --> 04:21:22,843 my head and in what MAY be 7107 04:21:22,843 --> 04:21:27,430 pressed or nine is our idea or 7108 04:21:28,160 --> 04:21:28,783 great idea. 7109 04:21:28,783 --> 04:21:31,783 Monica Monica speaking And you 7110 04:21:34,356 --> 04:21:35,390 spoke beautifully. 7111 04:21:35,390 --> 04:21:40,190 I want to add to it because we 7112 04:21:40,862 --> 04:21:41,530 have a structural budget 7113 04:21:41,530 --> 04:21:44,530 deficit and it does involve 7114 04:21:46,835 --> 04:21:47,502 overspending and it's out of 7115 04:21:47,502 --> 04:21:48,236 balance and it's replicating 7116 04:21:48,236 --> 04:21:51,836 itself for 20 or more years And 7117 04:21:53,308 --> 04:21:54,420 we're like a journal stuck on a 7118 04:21:54,420 --> 04:21:54,742 wheel going round and round and 7119 04:21:54,742 --> 04:21:58,342 round and round again And I'm 7120 04:21:58,747 --> 04:21:59,481 looking forward to speaking 7121 04:21:59,481 --> 04:22:03,810 with all of you maybe tomorrow 7122 04:22:04,618 --> 04:22:05,320 if I get energy about the time 7123 04:22:05,320 --> 04:22:06,540 of reckoning which has to do 7124 04:22:06,540 --> 04:22:09,654 with the people who didn't vote 7125 04:22:10,424 --> 04:22:11,126 on the sales tax measures, 7126 04:22:11,126 --> 04:22:15,326 the recent one and we need to 7127 04:22:15,930 --> 04:22:16,632 listen to them because they're 7128 04:22:16,632 --> 04:22:19,632 telling us we're not spending 7129 04:22:21,536 --> 04:22:22,103 our money correctly. 7130 04:22:22,103 --> 04:22:22,804 We are overspending. 7131 04:22:22,804 --> 04:22:25,804 I know what's more complicated 7132 04:22:28,744 --> 04:22:29,144 than that And I just thank you 7133 04:22:29,144 --> 04:22:29,911 ,Monica. 7134 04:22:29,911 --> 04:22:33,511 That was beautifully said But I 7135 04:22:34,716 --> 04:22:35,417 think we need to tweak it a 7136 04:22:35,417 --> 04:22:36,840 little bit And I'm really 7137 04:22:36,840 --> 04:22:36,785 there's a great article from 7138 04:22:36,785 --> 04:22:40,188 the u-t on It's got the word 7139 04:22:40,188 --> 04:22:40,928 reckoning in it for our city 7140 04:22:40,928 --> 04:22:45,128 and the people are saying no to 7141 04:22:46,261 --> 04:22:46,962 our things So I'm going to 7142 04:22:46,962 --> 04:22:47,328 really try to work on that for 7143 04:22:47,328 --> 04:22:48,630 tomorrow. 7144 04:22:48,630 --> 04:22:51,630 Anyway, thank you for listening 7145 04:22:52,967 --> 04:22:53,802 Always a great day. 7146 04:22:53,802 --> 04:22:54,169 We have one more love to all. 7147 04:22:54,169 --> 04:22:56,169 Thank you. 7148 04:22:58,573 --> 04:22:59,740 That concludes public testimony 7149 04:22:59,740 --> 04:22:59,608 on item 332. 7150 04:22:59,608 --> 04:23:00,208 >> All right. 7151 04:23:00,208 --> 04:23:00,909 Thank you, Deputy Clerk. 7152 04:23:00,909 --> 04:23:04,509 With that we'll turn over to 7153 04:23:05,347 --> 04:23:05,714 the council members for 7154 04:23:05,714 --> 04:23:06,447 questions. 7155 04:23:06,447 --> 04:23:07,182 Comments Entertain a motion and 7156 04:23:07,182 --> 04:23:07,616 we'll start with council member 7157 04:23:07,616 --> 04:23:09,616 You Thank you. 7158 04:23:11,753 --> 04:23:12,487 Council PRESIDENT I think you 7159 04:23:12,487 --> 04:23:13,122 members of the public for their 7160 04:23:13,122 --> 04:23:13,589 participation this item of 7161 04:23:13,589 --> 04:23:14,550 approval of such 7162 04:23:14,550 --> 04:23:16,550 recommendation. 7163 04:23:16,325 --> 04:23:17,192 >> All right. 7164 04:23:17,192 --> 04:23:17,626 We have a motion by Council 7165 04:23:17,626 --> 04:23:18,393 member Campo. 7166 04:23:18,393 --> 04:23:21,230 We'll go next to Council Member 7167 04:23:21,230 --> 04:23:21,997 Foster a second by Council 7168 04:23:21,997 --> 04:23:26,197 member foster So we do have a 7169 04:23:26,435 --> 04:23:27,170 motion by Council kennedy a 7170 04:23:27,170 --> 04:23:27,870 second by Council member Foster 7171 04:23:27,870 --> 04:23:28,570 I don't think I throw in that 7172 04:23:28,570 --> 04:23:29,238 the element please correct me 7173 04:23:29,238 --> 04:23:32,508 if I'm wrong was actually a 7174 04:23:32,508 --> 04:23:33,175 voter approved So we're just 7175 04:23:33,175 --> 04:23:33,509 following the voter approved 7176 04:23:33,509 --> 04:23:33,976 measure. 7177 04:23:33,976 --> 04:23:35,976 That's correct. 7178 04:23:37,479 --> 04:23:38,214 It's probably like 218 There's 7179 04:23:38,214 --> 04:23:38,847 a lot of reasons to be a little 7180 04:23:38,847 --> 04:23:39,481 frustrated by it But until 7181 04:23:39,481 --> 04:23:42,481 there's a new vote and 7182 04:23:43,919 --> 04:23:44,620 repositioning that legislation 7183 04:23:44,620 --> 04:23:45,200 with that we just have to 7184 04:23:45,200 --> 04:23:45,487 follow that. 7185 04:23:45,487 --> 04:23:47,487 >> So all right. 7186 04:23:50,159 --> 04:23:50,859 We have a motion by Council 7187 04:23:50,859 --> 04:23:51,427 member Kennedy on a second by 7188 04:23:51,427 --> 04:23:52,127 Council member Foster. 7189 04:23:52,127 --> 04:23:52,828 I think as you've seen we have 7190 04:23:52,828 --> 04:23:55,664 a little glitch in the voting 7191 04:23:55,664 --> 04:23:56,432 system of the tally system. 7192 04:23:56,432 --> 04:23:56,832 So all in favor say aye. 7193 04:23:56,832 --> 04:23:58,832 All right. 7194 04:24:05,741 --> 04:24:06,241 And he opposed and was that of 7195 04:24:06,241 --> 04:24:08,241 no council member. 7196 04:24:10,279 --> 04:24:10,979 You know what I pay attention 7197 04:24:10,979 --> 04:24:14,579 to the audience So that passes 7198 04:24:16,284 --> 04:24:16,952 8 to 0 with District five 7199 04:24:16,952 --> 04:24:19,352 absent Deputy Clerk please 7200 04:24:21,230 --> 04:24:21,723 introduce item 331 Thank you 7201 04:24:21,723 --> 04:24:24,123 Council PRESIDENT Item 331 is 7202 04:24:26,429 --> 04:24:27,129 the fiscal year 2027 tax rate 7203 04:24:27,129 --> 04:24:27,729 ordinance for the maintenance 7204 04:24:27,729 --> 04:24:29,729 of zoological exhibits. 7205 04:24:32,680 --> 04:24:32,468 This item is not subject to 7206 04:24:32,468 --> 04:24:32,768 the mayor's. 7207 04:24:32,768 --> 04:24:33,135 Yeah. 7208 04:24:33,135 --> 04:24:33,669 All right. 7209 04:24:33,669 --> 04:24:34,369 Thank you for that. 7210 04:24:34,369 --> 04:24:35,710 So we have the same staff but 7211 04:24:35,710 --> 04:24:37,471 please introduce yourself for 7212 04:24:38,874 --> 04:24:39,407 this item and let us know how 7213 04:24:39,407 --> 04:24:39,909 much time you need. 7214 04:24:39,909 --> 04:24:40,643 >> Good afternoon. 7215 04:24:40,643 --> 04:24:43,643 Council PRESIDENT Joe Lacob and 7216 04:24:44,780 --> 04:24:45,481 council members. 7217 04:24:45,481 --> 04:24:46,182 I'm a financial operations 7218 04:24:46,182 --> 04:24:46,849 manager with the Department of 7219 04:24:46,849 --> 04:24:50,449 Finance and with me is that 7220 04:24:50,920 --> 04:24:51,587 battalion director of Finance. 7221 04:24:51,587 --> 04:24:52,287 We are here to present 7222 04:24:52,287 --> 04:24:52,655 the fiscal year 2027 tax rate 7223 04:24:52,655 --> 04:24:54,655 ordinance. 7224 04:24:56,292 --> 04:24:56,959 We about three minutes. 7225 04:24:56,959 --> 04:24:57,526 All right when you're ready. 7226 04:24:57,526 --> 04:24:59,926 The tax rate ordinance 7227 04:25:01,664 --> 04:25:02,364 establishes a tax levy for 7228 04:25:02,364 --> 04:25:03,320 the maintenance of the logical 7229 04:25:03,320 --> 04:25:03,733 exhibits in accordance with 7230 04:25:03,733 --> 04:25:06,733 section 75 of the city charter 7231 04:25:08,171 --> 04:25:08,838 which requires the adoption of 7232 04:25:08,838 --> 04:25:09,204 an annual tax levy by 7233 04:25:09,204 --> 04:25:09,939 ordinance. 7234 04:25:09,939 --> 04:25:12,939 Approval of this ordinance also 7235 04:25:13,810 --> 04:25:14,477 ensures compliance with 7236 04:25:14,477 --> 04:25:15,780 the filing requirements and 7237 04:25:15,780 --> 04:25:15,644 deadline established by 7238 04:25:15,644 --> 04:25:16,279 the County Auditor and 7239 04:25:16,279 --> 04:25:18,279 Comptroller which mandates 7240 04:25:21,830 --> 04:25:21,784 submission no later than 7241 04:25:21,784 --> 04:25:22,840 the last day of AUGUST of each 7242 04:25:22,840 --> 04:25:22,685 year. 7243 04:25:22,685 --> 04:25:25,850 This levy was originally 7244 04:25:25,521 --> 04:25:26,222 approved in 1934 when San Diego 7245 04:25:26,222 --> 04:25:28,622 voters approved Section 77 of 7246 04:25:31,194 --> 04:25:31,861 the city charter to levy an 7247 04:25:31,861 --> 04:25:32,562 annual property tax of $0.02 7248 04:25:32,562 --> 04:25:35,562 per $100 of assessed value to 7249 04:25:37,100 --> 04:25:37,800 be used exclusively for 7250 04:25:37,800 --> 04:25:38,434 the maintenance of zoological 7251 04:25:38,434 --> 04:25:41,434 exhibits in Double Park in 7252 04:25:43,339 --> 04:25:44,400 1981, the California Revenue 7253 04:25:44,400 --> 04:25:44,706 and Taxation Code's definition 7254 04:25:44,706 --> 04:25:45,441 of the assessed valuation on 7255 04:25:45,441 --> 04:25:48,441 which property taxes are levied 7256 04:25:49,245 --> 04:25:49,979 was changed from 25% of 7257 04:25:49,979 --> 04:25:50,680 the property's value to 100% of 7258 04:25:50,680 --> 04:25:53,680 the property's value In order 7259 04:25:55,852 --> 04:25:56,553 to translate Charter Section 77 7260 04:25:56,553 --> 04:26:00,153 a's tax rates to the new 7261 04:26:00,523 --> 04:26:01,191 definition a conversion factor 7262 04:26:01,191 --> 04:26:01,891 of one fourth was applied to 7263 04:26:01,891 --> 04:26:04,291 logical exhibits tax rate 7264 04:26:05,762 --> 04:26:06,462 changing the levy from $0.02 7265 04:26:06,462 --> 04:26:09,462 per $100 of assessed value to 7266 04:26:09,466 --> 04:26:09,932 half a cent per $100 of 7267 04:26:09,932 --> 04:26:10,600 assessed value. 7268 04:26:10,600 --> 04:26:14,200 Since then the tax rate has 7269 04:26:15,271 --> 04:26:15,905 remained unchanged for fiscal 7270 04:26:15,905 --> 04:26:16,572 year 2027 with the Logical 7271 04:26:16,572 --> 04:26:18,972 Exhibits Maintenance Fund is 7272 04:26:20,143 --> 04:26:20,743 budgeted at approximately 22.8 7273 04:26:20,743 --> 04:26:21,443 million for revenues and 7274 04:26:21,443 --> 04:26:24,443 expenditures and it's based on 7275 04:26:26,650 --> 04:26:27,417 the calculation of a half a 7276 04:26:27,417 --> 04:26:27,717 cent per every $100 of assessed 7277 04:26:27,717 --> 04:26:28,351 value. 7278 04:26:28,351 --> 04:26:31,351 This amount is an estimate 7279 04:26:31,821 --> 04:26:32,455 based on the city's fiscal year 7280 04:26:32,455 --> 04:26:33,122 2027 property tax budget. 7281 04:26:33,122 --> 04:26:36,122 Each year the city transfers 7282 04:26:37,227 --> 04:26:37,861 transfers the actual property 7283 04:26:37,861 --> 04:26:40,261 tax revenues collected by 7284 04:26:42,365 --> 04:26:43,660 the county for this purpose be 7285 04:26:43,660 --> 04:26:43,767 22.8 million represents only a 7286 04:26:43,767 --> 04:26:44,367 portion of the total costs of 7287 04:26:44,367 --> 04:26:45,340 maintenance The logical 7288 04:26:45,340 --> 04:26:47,434 exhibits the remaining costs 7289 04:26:48,705 --> 04:26:49,372 are funded through new 7290 04:26:49,372 --> 04:26:50,400 operations and support from 7291 04:26:50,400 --> 04:26:50,707 members, donors and guests. 7292 04:26:50,707 --> 04:26:53,107 Staff's recommendation is to 7293 04:26:54,444 --> 04:26:55,111 approve the fiscal year 2027 7294 04:26:55,111 --> 04:26:58,470 tax rate ordinance levying a 7295 04:26:58,470 --> 04:26:58,748 property tax of half a cent per 7296 04:26:58,748 --> 04:26:59,282 $100 of assessed value to be 7297 04:26:59,282 --> 04:26:59,983 used exclusively for 7298 04:26:59,983 --> 04:27:02,383 the maintenance of zoological 7299 04:27:03,253 --> 04:27:03,987 exhibits in double Park in 7300 04:27:03,987 --> 04:27:04,688 compliance with Charter Section 7301 04:27:04,688 --> 04:27:07,688 75 and the County Auditor and 7302 04:27:09,626 --> 04:27:10,360 Comptroller's requirements. 7303 04:27:10,360 --> 04:27:11,270 That concludes our presentation 7304 04:27:11,270 --> 04:27:11,394 that we're available for Any 7305 04:27:11,394 --> 04:27:11,761 questions. 7306 04:27:11,761 --> 04:27:12,396 All right. 7307 04:27:12,396 --> 04:27:15,320 Thank you for the work and 7308 04:27:15,320 --> 04:27:15,364 thank you for the presentation 7309 04:27:15,364 --> 04:27:16,320 . 7310 04:27:16,320 --> 04:27:16,565 Deputy Clerk Please proceed 7311 04:27:16,565 --> 04:27:18,565 with public comment. 7312 04:27:21,137 --> 04:27:21,738 Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT Max 7313 04:27:21,738 --> 04:27:22,238 Schmidt We'll begin with 7314 04:27:22,238 --> 04:27:22,839 in-person comment. 7315 04:27:22,839 --> 04:27:23,173 Max Schmidt please come 7316 04:27:23,173 --> 04:27:24,340 forward. 7317 04:27:24,340 --> 04:27:27,340 You'll have two minutes to 7318 04:27:35,619 --> 04:27:39,219 speak on increasing the tax to 7319 04:27:40,991 --> 04:27:41,691 $0.05 for every $100 of the $22 7320 04:27:41,691 --> 04:27:44,910 million in maintenance revenue 7321 04:27:45,931 --> 04:27:47,931 on seems unnecessary. 7322 04:27:51,340 --> 04:27:51,802 And I just wanted to say that 7323 04:27:51,802 --> 04:27:54,802 earning taxes off of San 7324 04:27:57,700 --> 04:28:00,700 Diego's amazing zoo also seems 7325 04:28:02,790 --> 04:28:05,790 unnecessary I think with on 7326 04:28:07,650 --> 04:28:08,418 the $2 billion in taxes that 7327 04:28:08,418 --> 04:28:09,219 San Diego San Diego has to 7328 04:28:09,219 --> 04:28:12,819 spend on maybe they could try 7329 04:28:13,689 --> 04:28:14,124 to make the zoo more affordable 7330 04:28:14,124 --> 04:28:16,124 or even free. 7331 04:28:19,229 --> 04:28:19,930 I know St Louis, Missouri has a 7332 04:28:19,930 --> 04:28:23,530 free zoo and it's very popular 7333 04:28:24,635 --> 04:28:25,336 and I just wanted to also say 7334 04:28:25,336 --> 04:28:28,936 that I've mentioned this a lot 7335 04:28:29,306 --> 04:28:30,700 already but I'm against 7336 04:28:30,700 --> 04:28:33,607 the city of San Diego getting 7337 04:28:34,511 --> 04:28:35,279 any tax dollars from the people 7338 04:28:35,279 --> 04:28:38,279 whether it's through the zoo's 7339 04:28:40,284 --> 04:28:40,985 maintenance fee or whether it's 7340 04:28:40,985 --> 04:28:43,985 through property or sales tax. 7341 04:28:44,655 --> 04:28:48,255 And the reason why is because 7342 04:28:49,920 --> 04:28:49,760 there is serious criminal and 7343 04:28:49,760 --> 04:28:52,160 illegal activity that falls 7344 04:28:54,699 --> 04:28:55,650 under city sponsored and state 7345 04:28:55,650 --> 04:28:57,650 sponsored. 7346 04:28:59,803 --> 04:29:00,471 And what that is is people 7347 04:29:00,471 --> 04:29:01,104 being paid tax dollars like 7348 04:29:01,104 --> 04:29:03,504 staff at homeless shelter 7349 04:29:04,775 --> 04:29:05,442 police officer transit 7350 04:29:05,442 --> 04:29:08,442 authority on the trolley on 7351 04:29:09,379 --> 04:29:12,379 whoever is running the trolley 7352 04:29:13,951 --> 04:29:14,718 intercom are actually harassing 7353 04:29:14,718 --> 04:29:18,318 Catholics And what they do is 7354 04:29:19,723 --> 04:29:20,324 this They speak constant, 7355 04:29:20,324 --> 04:29:22,324 bizarre, strange half 7356 04:29:24,762 --> 04:29:25,462 gibberish, half I'm reading 7357 04:29:25,462 --> 04:29:26,163 your mind I know it sounds 7358 04:29:26,163 --> 04:29:26,797 crazy where they're telepathic 7359 04:29:26,797 --> 04:29:29,197 from doing hermetic chants 7360 04:29:29,566 --> 04:29:30,167 The Masonic Lodge and people 7361 04:29:30,167 --> 04:29:33,167 who are getting paid tax 7362 04:29:34,138 --> 04:29:34,772 dollars are actually trying to 7363 04:29:34,772 --> 04:29:35,472 drive Catholics either to 7364 04:29:35,472 --> 04:29:38,472 suicide or drug addiction And 7365 04:29:39,900 --> 04:29:39,409 there's a genocide happening. 7366 04:29:39,409 --> 04:29:40,177 Thank you. 7367 04:29:40,177 --> 04:29:43,177 That does conclude your time 7368 04:29:49,487 --> 04:29:50,187 Allegedly order Poor Vivienne 7369 04:29:50,187 --> 04:29:50,454 got thrown under the bus. 7370 04:29:50,454 --> 04:29:51,122 Why? 7371 04:29:51,122 --> 04:29:54,250 Why not call out Jennifer? 7372 04:29:54,250 --> 04:29:54,859 You didn't think it was her? 7373 04:29:54,859 --> 04:29:57,259 >> Yeah, this is interesting. 7374 04:29:59,797 --> 04:30:00,665 That's I mean a half a cent and 7375 04:30:00,665 --> 04:30:03,665 you get $22 million almost 23 I 7376 04:30:04,635 --> 04:30:05,402 feel like that should give us a 7377 04:30:05,402 --> 04:30:09,941 free pass to go to the zoo when 7378 04:30:09,941 --> 04:30:10,575 they're getting that much money 7379 04:30:10,575 --> 04:30:11,208 from the people in is this 7380 04:30:11,208 --> 04:30:14,208 county leaders is just in 7381 04:30:14,244 --> 04:30:14,779 the city is this just city 7382 04:30:14,779 --> 04:30:15,445 property Yeah that's 7383 04:30:15,445 --> 04:30:18,445 interesting That's a lot of 7384 04:30:18,749 --> 04:30:19,550 money and those people still 7385 04:30:19,550 --> 04:30:20,284 have to pay to go to the zoo. 7386 04:30:20,284 --> 04:30:23,284 And I'm wondering because it's 7387 04:30:23,421 --> 04:30:24,210 like nobody really keeps up 7388 04:30:24,210 --> 04:30:24,688 with their maintenance. 7389 04:30:24,688 --> 04:30:27,725 How do we know that this is 7390 04:30:27,725 --> 04:30:28,590 going towards their maintenance 7391 04:30:28,590 --> 04:30:28,959 really? 7392 04:30:28,959 --> 04:30:29,694 I mean do we know that Is there 7393 04:30:29,694 --> 04:30:33,294 any kind of checks and balances 7394 04:30:33,431 --> 04:30:34,398 to be sure we just give it to 7395 04:30:34,398 --> 04:30:36,401 them and say it's out of our 7396 04:30:36,401 --> 04:30:36,767 hands? 7397 04:30:36,767 --> 04:30:38,767 Right. 7398 04:30:41,839 --> 04:30:42,607 So how it works I guess so. 7399 04:30:42,607 --> 04:30:42,907 I mean that's that's the way it 7400 04:30:42,907 --> 04:30:44,907 seems. 7401 04:30:46,440 --> 04:30:46,344 That's the way the government 7402 04:30:46,344 --> 04:30:46,911 works. 7403 04:30:46,911 --> 04:30:47,511 We contract with you. 7404 04:30:47,511 --> 04:30:49,911 We did our part. 7405 04:30:50,882 --> 04:30:51,648 We followed the policy. 7406 04:30:51,648 --> 04:30:51,950 We created a bike lane. 7407 04:30:51,950 --> 04:30:53,950 Yeah. 7408 04:30:55,153 --> 04:30:55,953 It cost like $13 million and it 7409 04:30:55,953 --> 04:30:56,554 goes to no or but we did what 7410 04:30:56,554 --> 04:30:59,457 we were supposed to do. 7411 04:30:59,457 --> 04:31:00,224 So again it's like until people 7412 04:31:00,224 --> 04:31:03,628 are going to like go to the zoo 7413 04:31:03,628 --> 04:31:04,362 for free I mean $22 million and 7414 04:31:04,362 --> 04:31:04,796 plus we're like holding animals 7415 04:31:04,796 --> 04:31:06,796 in captivity. 7416 04:31:08,332 --> 04:31:09,330 I always hated that as a kid 7417 04:31:09,330 --> 04:31:12,633 like go in and watching these 7418 04:31:12,670 --> 04:31:13,438 animals I mean they say they 7419 04:31:13,438 --> 04:31:14,205 save them but it's like is it 7420 04:31:14,205 --> 04:31:17,805 really I mean because like out 7421 04:31:18,109 --> 04:31:18,843 in their own habitat they don't 7422 04:31:18,843 --> 04:31:22,180 really do those things But it's 7423 04:31:22,180 --> 04:31:22,547 like, you know, wild horses, 7424 04:31:22,547 --> 04:31:23,548 mustangs. 7425 04:31:23,548 --> 04:31:27,510 I had a couple of those ones So 7426 04:31:27,510 --> 04:31:27,752 sad They're like 50 bucks You 7427 04:31:27,752 --> 04:31:28,453 can't even like sell them for 7428 04:31:28,453 --> 04:31:31,453 that much because they're wild 7429 04:31:31,723 --> 04:31:32,230 horses anyway. 7430 04:31:32,230 --> 04:31:32,923 Yeah. 7431 04:31:32,923 --> 04:31:36,610 So I just like to see kind of 7432 04:31:36,610 --> 04:31:36,727 some kind of uh you know, uh 7433 04:31:36,727 --> 04:31:37,429 audit to make sure that this 7434 04:31:37,429 --> 04:31:39,829 money is going towards 7435 04:31:40,832 --> 04:31:41,499 maintenance and how much more 7436 04:31:41,499 --> 04:31:41,900 they're like requiring from 7437 04:31:41,900 --> 04:31:43,900 the people. 7438 04:31:45,803 --> 04:31:46,604 I'd also like to request an 7439 04:31:46,604 --> 04:31:50,375 audit on flock so if we could 7440 04:31:50,375 --> 04:31:50,675 do that as well that would be 7441 04:31:50,675 --> 04:31:51,420 good. 7442 04:31:51,420 --> 04:31:51,743 Thank you. 7443 04:31:51,743 --> 04:31:52,510 That does conclude your time. 7444 04:31:52,510 --> 04:31:55,510 Our next speaker is Anthony 7445 04:32:04,256 --> 04:32:05,123 Ralphs. 7446 04:32:05,123 --> 04:32:09,323 I think I'm in favor of this 7447 04:32:09,361 --> 04:32:12,961 tax but I'm not entirely sure. 7448 04:32:13,965 --> 04:32:14,899 Um, I. 7449 04:32:14,899 --> 04:32:18,970 I don't know if the zoo is a 7450 04:32:18,970 --> 04:32:19,704 private corporation and if 7451 04:32:19,704 --> 04:32:22,104 they're getting public subsidy. 7452 04:32:24,376 --> 04:32:25,770 If so, then it probably I don't 7453 04:32:25,770 --> 04:32:26,111 know if this tax is justified. 7454 04:32:26,111 --> 04:32:29,414 They do bring in a lot of 7455 04:32:29,414 --> 04:32:30,181 people. 7456 04:32:30,181 --> 04:32:30,882 They are like a world famous 7457 04:32:30,882 --> 04:32:31,149 and the world famous San Diego 7458 04:32:31,149 --> 04:32:31,448 Zoo. 7459 04:32:31,448 --> 04:32:33,448 Right. 7460 04:32:33,986 --> 04:32:37,586 So I guess there's a there 7461 04:32:37,956 --> 04:32:38,556 could be a justification for it 7462 04:32:38,556 --> 04:32:39,258 But the not knowing that 7463 04:32:39,258 --> 04:32:41,658 distinction makes it difficult 7464 04:32:43,428 --> 04:32:43,762 to formulate a fully educated 7465 04:32:43,762 --> 04:32:45,762 opinion. 7466 04:32:46,899 --> 04:32:51,699 So I think I'm in favor of it 7467 04:32:52,104 --> 04:32:52,570 Anyway, thanks. 7468 04:32:52,570 --> 04:32:53,238 Thank you. 7469 04:32:53,238 --> 04:32:55,638 That does conclude in-person 7470 04:32:56,742 --> 04:32:57,476 public comment. 7471 04:32:57,476 --> 04:32:58,143 I I've started the five minute 7472 04:32:58,143 --> 04:33:01,143 timer and the committee room 7473 04:33:01,346 --> 04:33:02,470 and we will now turn to 7474 04:33:02,470 --> 04:33:04,883 the virtual queue where there 7475 04:33:04,883 --> 04:33:05,183 is one speaker requesting to 7476 04:33:05,183 --> 04:33:05,850 speak. 7477 04:33:05,850 --> 04:33:08,250 Hector please begin your 7478 04:33:09,922 --> 04:33:11,922 comments. 7479 04:33:14,525 --> 04:33:15,394 Having grown up here I've been 7480 04:33:15,394 --> 04:33:15,661 to the zoo a lot of times as a 7481 04:33:15,661 --> 04:33:17,661 kid. 7482 04:33:18,363 --> 04:33:19,330 I think we should sunset this 7483 04:33:19,330 --> 04:33:22,930 thing and not pay him anything 7484 04:33:24,603 --> 04:33:25,237 because originally did that to 7485 04:33:25,237 --> 04:33:28,507 get the zoo running up and 7486 04:33:28,507 --> 04:33:29,207 running so the Sand City could 7487 04:33:29,207 --> 04:33:29,942 with the zoo when it first 7488 04:33:29,942 --> 04:33:32,942 started to get everything going 7489 04:33:33,479 --> 04:33:33,779 But now the zoo is in great 7490 04:33:33,779 --> 04:33:34,479 hands. 7491 04:33:34,479 --> 04:33:37,479 There's a lot of entrepreneurs 7492 04:33:38,650 --> 04:33:39,618 there, a lot of people donate. 7493 04:33:39,618 --> 04:33:42,620 It's top of the line and we 7494 04:33:42,620 --> 04:33:43,322 should almost charge them $20 7495 04:33:43,322 --> 04:33:46,322 million like rent or something 7496 04:33:47,660 --> 04:33:48,360 because they're the you know, 7497 04:33:48,360 --> 04:33:51,960 they have all sorts of things 7498 04:33:52,330 --> 04:33:52,798 going on and we don't need to 7499 04:33:52,798 --> 04:33:53,599 subsidize them. 7500 04:33:53,599 --> 04:33:57,200 Not that we got to be mad him 7501 04:33:57,200 --> 04:33:57,870 or nothing but just we got 20 7502 04:33:57,870 --> 04:34:01,740 million we can spend on so many 7503 04:34:01,740 --> 04:34:02,341 other things and they should we 7504 04:34:02,341 --> 04:34:05,341 could charge him maybe a 7505 04:34:06,440 --> 04:34:06,745 million bucks rent because I 7506 04:34:06,745 --> 04:34:07,412 think we own the property but 7507 04:34:07,412 --> 04:34:10,412 it's probably it's it's own 7508 04:34:11,951 --> 04:34:12,651 corporation or how it works and 7509 04:34:12,651 --> 04:34:16,210 the zoo works but all the big 7510 04:34:16,210 --> 04:34:16,722 time guys in the zoo, they know 7511 04:34:16,722 --> 04:34:20,225 what's going on And this is 7512 04:34:20,225 --> 04:34:20,892 just an extra this is almost 7513 04:34:20,892 --> 04:34:21,693 mayonnaise on the sandwich. 7514 04:34:21,693 --> 04:34:25,264 You know if you take out 7515 04:34:25,264 --> 04:34:25,798 the mayonnaise it would still 7516 04:34:25,798 --> 04:34:26,532 be a good sandwich. 7517 04:34:26,532 --> 04:34:29,532 You know they're not hurting 7518 04:34:30,502 --> 04:34:31,203 for money but they're getting 7519 04:34:31,203 --> 04:34:34,707 the parking revenue now So who 7520 04:34:34,707 --> 04:34:35,474 knows what's going to happen. 7521 04:34:35,474 --> 04:34:39,740 But anyway, we should move to 7522 04:34:39,712 --> 04:34:40,612 sunset this politically it 7523 04:34:40,612 --> 04:34:41,380 might be a no no for you guys 7524 04:34:41,380 --> 04:34:44,883 but we'll spend the money down 7525 04:34:44,883 --> 04:34:45,584 in Barrio Logan man setting up 7526 04:34:45,584 --> 04:34:49,184 a lot of stuff down there. 7527 04:34:49,722 --> 04:34:50,356 Parks Dumber and you give 7528 04:34:50,356 --> 04:34:53,956 the money to you know, all 7529 04:34:54,260 --> 04:34:55,161 sorts of different things we 7530 04:34:55,161 --> 04:34:58,464 could do and it would make a 7531 04:34:58,464 --> 04:34:58,965 positive impact in a lot of 7532 04:34:58,965 --> 04:35:00,965 different places. 7533 04:35:03,369 --> 04:35:03,870 Thanks for your time. 7534 04:35:03,870 --> 04:35:04,637 Thank you. 7535 04:35:04,637 --> 04:35:08,307 We have the next speaker is a 7536 04:35:08,307 --> 04:35:08,708 caller with the last four 7537 04:35:08,708 --> 04:35:10,708 digits 8700. 7538 04:35:12,845 --> 04:35:15,245 Please begin your comments. 7539 04:35:19,252 --> 04:35:21,992 Thank you Joyce and your to 7540 04:35:21,992 --> 04:35:22,888 Councilmember Foster the third 7541 04:35:22,888 --> 04:35:26,488 Would you listen up on this 7542 04:35:29,562 --> 04:35:30,328 item please? 7543 04:35:30,328 --> 04:35:30,963 We have a world class zoo. 7544 04:35:30,963 --> 04:35:33,963 There's no doubt about it. 7545 04:35:35,101 --> 04:35:35,902 And in on another item this 7546 04:35:35,902 --> 04:35:39,405 year last year we realized in 7547 04:35:39,405 --> 04:35:40,172 real life that we just had we 7548 04:35:40,172 --> 04:35:43,776 were told and we knew how great 7549 04:35:43,776 --> 04:35:44,343 they are and how they improved 7550 04:35:44,343 --> 04:35:46,743 and the executives and 7551 04:35:48,815 --> 04:35:49,515 everything and then great And 7552 04:35:49,515 --> 04:35:53,715 you know so out of the five 7553 04:35:54,200 --> 04:35:54,821 stars which I think is the best 7554 04:35:54,821 --> 04:35:55,588 sometimes I give a plus more 7555 04:35:55,588 --> 04:35:59,192 But out of the five stars they 7556 04:35:59,192 --> 04:35:59,892 only get four from me And 7557 04:35:59,892 --> 04:36:03,363 the reason for that is there's 7558 04:36:03,363 --> 04:36:04,263 a question mark on the Fifth 7559 04:36:04,263 --> 04:36:08,134 Star and that is how they treat 7560 04:36:08,134 --> 04:36:11,134 their employees And I don't 7561 04:36:13,506 --> 04:36:14,730 know excuse me if I stumble on 7562 04:36:14,730 --> 04:36:17,730 this with the eeoc and 7563 04:36:17,510 --> 04:36:18,377 the workforce reports I Googled 7564 04:36:18,377 --> 04:36:22,470 back away a year or two ago I 7565 04:36:22,470 --> 04:36:22,849 Googled how they treat their 7566 04:36:22,849 --> 04:36:25,849 employees and I got awful 7567 04:36:26,920 --> 04:36:29,920 negativity stuff and I just 7568 04:36:31,724 --> 04:36:34,124 it's it frightened me. 7569 04:36:36,529 --> 04:36:37,464 It just shocked me. 7570 04:36:37,464 --> 04:36:37,864 So I just would like to shine a 7571 04:36:37,864 --> 04:36:39,864 light there. 7572 04:36:41,367 --> 04:36:43,767 Councilmember Foster the third 7573 04:36:45,505 --> 04:36:46,306 and make sure that I can that 7574 04:36:46,306 --> 04:36:49,906 I'm wrong that it's just fake 7575 04:36:50,910 --> 04:36:51,878 fake news on Google And so I 7576 04:36:51,878 --> 04:36:55,581 just had to get that off my 7577 04:36:55,581 --> 04:36:56,448 chest. 7578 04:36:56,448 --> 04:36:56,750 I wasn't going to speak on this 7579 04:36:56,750 --> 04:36:57,450 item. 7580 04:36:57,450 --> 04:37:00,353 I was sort of waiting for MR. 7581 04:37:00,353 --> 04:37:01,287 Stump to speak. 7582 04:37:01,287 --> 04:37:05,358 So I feel better that I put 7583 04:37:05,358 --> 04:37:06,192 that out there. 7584 04:37:06,192 --> 04:37:06,993 I hope it's wrong But if there 7585 04:37:06,993 --> 04:37:09,728 me if these people these 7586 04:37:09,728 --> 04:37:10,430 employees are doing 7587 04:37:10,430 --> 04:37:13,430 the maintenance, we've got to 7588 04:37:14,601 --> 04:37:15,568 treat them five stars So please 7589 04:37:15,568 --> 04:37:19,768 check on that and it's been a 7590 04:37:20,674 --> 04:37:21,541 great day and thank you so much 7591 04:37:21,541 --> 04:37:24,277 for listening up to all Thank 7592 04:37:24,277 --> 04:37:25,110 you. 7593 04:37:25,110 --> 04:37:25,411 That concludes public testimony 7594 04:37:25,411 --> 04:37:25,779 on item 331. 7595 04:37:25,779 --> 04:37:27,779 All right. 7596 04:37:29,349 --> 04:37:30,116 Thank you, Deputy Clerk. 7597 04:37:30,116 --> 04:37:30,817 With that will turn over to 7598 04:37:30,817 --> 04:37:31,551 council members for questions, 7599 04:37:31,551 --> 04:37:34,521 Comments Entertain a motion and 7600 04:37:34,521 --> 04:37:34,887 we'll start with Council member 7601 04:37:34,887 --> 04:37:35,255 Whitburn. 7602 04:37:35,255 --> 04:37:35,956 Thank you. 7603 04:37:35,956 --> 04:37:38,356 Council PRESIDENT 92 years ago 7604 04:37:39,259 --> 04:37:40,600 Sandiego residents voted to 7605 04:37:40,600 --> 04:37:40,661 enact this property tax to help 7606 04:37:40,661 --> 04:37:40,994 maintain the exhibits at 7607 04:37:40,994 --> 04:37:42,994 the zoo. 7608 04:37:44,665 --> 04:37:45,299 Whatever voters pass a property 7609 04:37:45,299 --> 04:37:46,990 tax for a specific purpose 7610 04:37:46,990 --> 04:37:49,136 the funds have to be used for 7611 04:37:49,136 --> 04:37:49,469 that purpose and only that 7612 04:37:49,469 --> 04:37:50,303 purpose. 7613 04:37:50,303 --> 04:37:54,730 In this case the funds must be 7614 04:37:54,730 --> 04:37:54,408 used for the exhibits at 7615 04:37:54,408 --> 04:37:56,408 the zoo. 7616 04:37:58,245 --> 04:37:58,845 San Diego Zoo is a point of 7617 04:37:58,845 --> 04:37:59,580 pride for our city. 7618 04:37:59,580 --> 04:38:02,580 It's the reason many tourists 7619 04:38:03,830 --> 04:38:03,951 visit our city. 7620 04:38:03,951 --> 04:38:07,653 A lot of the people who work at 7621 04:38:07,653 --> 04:38:08,355 the zoo have worked there for 7622 04:38:08,355 --> 04:38:08,888 decades and speak very highly 7623 04:38:08,888 --> 04:38:10,888 of their experience. 7624 04:38:11,925 --> 04:38:12,459 Many of them are represented by 7625 04:38:12,459 --> 04:38:13,260 the Teamsters Union. 7626 04:38:13,260 --> 04:38:15,426 I very much appreciate 7627 04:38:17,163 --> 04:38:17,865 the zoo's long standing 7628 04:38:17,865 --> 04:38:18,531 partnership with the city and 7629 04:38:18,531 --> 04:38:18,999 I'm happy to move the staff 7630 04:38:18,999 --> 04:38:19,365 recommendation. 7631 04:38:19,365 --> 04:38:21,365 All right. 7632 04:38:23,360 --> 04:38:23,503 We have a motion by council 7633 04:38:23,503 --> 04:38:24,204 member Whitburn. 7634 04:38:24,204 --> 04:38:24,505 Well let's go to Councilmember 7635 04:38:24,505 --> 04:38:26,406 Camp. 7636 04:38:26,406 --> 04:38:26,940 You happy to Second Council 7637 04:38:26,940 --> 04:38:28,940 PRESIDENT Oh right. 7638 04:38:30,810 --> 04:38:31,511 >> Well quick on the on that I 7639 04:38:31,511 --> 04:38:34,511 don't see anybody else on 7640 04:38:36,416 --> 04:38:37,184 the lights And so we're going 7641 04:38:37,184 --> 04:38:37,851 to do a voice vote again We 7642 04:38:37,851 --> 04:38:38,584 have a motion by COUNCILMAN 7643 04:38:38,584 --> 04:38:41,355 Whitburn, the second by Council 7644 04:38:41,355 --> 04:38:42,880 member Campo to move the staff 7645 04:38:42,880 --> 04:38:45,880 recommendation In favor say aye 7646 04:38:45,910 --> 04:38:48,691 Aye Any nays that passes eight 7647 04:38:49,129 --> 04:38:49,997 zero with District five absent. 7648 04:38:49,997 --> 04:38:53,500 That brings us to the end of 7649 04:38:53,500 --> 04:38:54,268 our agenda. 7650 04:38:54,268 --> 04:38:54,935 We will now adjourn Council to 7651 04:38:54,935 --> 04:38:57,335 the next regularly scheduled 7652 04:38:58,638 --> 04:38:59,506 council meeting on Monday JUNE 7653 04:38:59,506 --> 04:39:00,574 29th, 2026 at 10 A.M. And I am 7654 04:39:00,574 --> 04:39:04,174 confident we will be back in