[0:00] the 2:00 afternoon session.
[0:00] So again, thank you to all of
[0:04] you for your patience here.
[0:05] I know some of you are here for
[0:08] the very, very first time So
[0:09] all right, we're ready.
[0:10] Kevin All right.
[0:10] Good morning.
[0:13] I will now call the city
[0:14] Council meeting of Tuesday,
[0:14] JUNE 23rd, 2026 to order Deputy
[0:19] Clerk please call the roll.
[0:19] Councilmember Campbell here.
[0:23] Council member Whitburn here
[0:23] Council Member Foster here
[0:24] Council Member Von Weber
[0:28] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee
[0:28] Council Member Campo here
[0:32] Council Member Moreno Present
[0:33] Council member Eli Rivera and
[0:33] Council Member Council
[0:37] PRESIDENT LaCava present.
[0:38] Also attending the meeting are
[0:39] Chief Deputy City Attorney
[0:42] Melissa Ables, Independent
[0:43] Budget Analyst Charles Mollica
[0:44] Council Affairs Advisor in
[0:48] the Mayor's office Kota Sizer
[0:49] and myself your Deputy City
[0:52] Clerk Kevin Smith All right,
[0:53] thank you for that.
[0:53] A quorum is now present.
[0:56] We will begin this morning with
[0:57] the land acknowledgment and
[0:57] the Pledge of Allegiance led by
[0:58] Council member Whitburn.
[1:04] So if you would please stand we
[1:10] respectfully acknowledge that
[1:11] the committee should are
[1:11] the original inhabitants of
[1:12] the Unceded land.
[1:14] I know to San Diego.
[1:14] Despite enduring the horrors of
[1:15] genocide and colonization,
[1:18] the Holy Spirit remains
[1:18] unbroken.
[1:19] We honor the resilience of
[1:20] their ancestors who fought to
[1:23] protect their culture and land
[1:24] Today they carry their legacy
[1:24] forward ensuring that their
[1:28] traditions continue to thrive
[1:28] and gratitude and strength We
[1:29] stand with the combination
[1:33] connected to our past and
[1:33] committed to a thriving future.
[1:38] Please face the flag Hand over
[1:38] your heart.
[1:38] Ready?
[1:39] Begin.
[1:42] I pledge allegiance to the flag
[1:42] of the United States of America
[1:47] and to the Republic for which
[1:47] it stands One nation under GOD
[1:51] indivisible with liberty and
[1:56] justice for all.
[1:56] All right.
[2:01] Deputy Clerk please go over how
[2:01] the public can offer their
[2:02] testimony.
[2:02] They will now highlight
[2:05] the slide on the screen that
[2:06] reviews how the public can
[2:10] offer their public testimony
[2:24] during today's meeting.
[2:25] I'll summarize the slide on
[2:25] the screen.
[2:29] Please note that the time
[2:30] allocations for proclamations
[2:31] and consent items for meeting
[2:34] management purpose purposes
[2:35] the order can be found on
[2:36] the agenda summary found on
[2:36] line or at the table in
[2:40] the back of the room.
[2:40] If you are in person please
[2:41] complete a speaker slip located
[2:44] at the entrance of chambers and
[2:44] bring it to the front of
[2:45] the room.
[2:45] Council ambassadors are
[2:49] available near the entrance of
[2:50] this room and can assist with
[2:54] questions and speaker slips.
[2:55] No further in-person testimony
[2:56] will be taken once the City
[2:57] Council begins virtual
[3:02] testimony.
[3:03] All right.
[3:03] Thank you.
[3:04] With that we will now dispense
[3:07] with the approval of
[3:07] the proclamation items.
[3:08] Deputy Clerk Please proceed
[3:12] with public comment.
[3:13] The public comment period for
[3:13] the proclamation items is now
[3:14] open.
[3:16] Each speaker will have one
[3:17] minute per item per person.
[3:18] If you would like to speak on
[3:18] three or more items you will
[3:21] have a maximum of three
[3:21] minutes.
[3:22] The proclamation items being
[3:26] approved are items 3031 sw 500
[3:30] and 504.
[3:31] >> >> We will begin with
[3:36] in-person public comment.
[3:40] Jason Cox Please come forward.
[3:41] You'll have one minute to speak
[3:49] on items five and four.
[3:49] Good morning everybody.
[3:50] I'm speaking today as a
[3:53] resident of Oak Park and a
[3:54] frequent patron of the Oak Park
[3:54] Library.
[3:57] I probably been down there five
[3:58] times for books, maybe 15 or 10
[3:58] for community events but
[4:02] the rest for Mark Davis.
[4:03] I want to say he's gone far
[4:04] beyond what it means to be a
[4:07] librarian.
[4:08] And I would want to call out
[4:09] was active role in supporting
[4:10] the community be it friends of
[4:13] the library or the Oak Park
[4:14] Youth Core and see that he's
[4:14] been exceptional.
[4:17] But what I really want to
[4:17] highlight today is the fact
[4:18] that for Mark it has never been
[4:19] exceptional.
[4:22] It's just a Tuesday.
[4:23] I've never seen someone so
[4:27] professional, so nonchalant and
[4:27] yet so compassionate and
[4:31] helpful at the same time.
[4:32] He has proven that pragmatism
[4:33] does not preclude activism and
[4:36] in doing so rather than
[4:36] exceeding the standards for
[4:41] librarians, he's lifted them up
[4:42] to his He's the quintessence of
[4:46] what it means to be a librarian
[4:47] in the 21st century and he's a
[4:47] true public servant.
[4:50] I hope he can serve as a model
[4:51] for all those who come after
[4:52] him and we're truly sad to see
[4:54] him go.
[4:58] Thank you for your comment.
[4:59] >> Our next speaker is Lisa
[5:04] Solis.
[5:05] >> This is Lisa Solis.
[5:09] You do have time ceded to you
[5:10] by one other individual.
[5:14] Eric Bana Tao, are you here?
[5:15] Could you raise your hand,
[5:15] please?
[5:16] Oh, thank you very much.
[5:18] You will have a total of two
[5:19] minutes.
[5:19] >> Good morning.
[5:23] Good morning, City Council.
[5:24] And on behalf of Bird Rock
[5:25] Elementary School, I'm Eric
[5:28] Bana, our school principal.
[5:29] On behalf of the whole entire
[5:33] staff, the community and our
[5:33] students we are excited and
[5:34] happy that you can acknowledge
[5:37] our 75th anniversary.
[5:38] And with that we have a little
[5:38] bit of a serenade for you.
[5:41] But first let me introduce our
[5:42] music teacher MS..
[5:45] Solis.
[5:46] Good morning.
[5:47] We're so excited to be here as
[5:50] Sioux City Council today.
[5:51] We have our students here.
[5:52] When I found out that we were
[5:55] having this celebration I
[5:56] thought it was really important
[5:57] for everybody to know that we
[6:01] are Pelican's River pelicans.
[6:05] Our our our how do you say our
[6:06] motto are we have what's that
[6:10] called The person The Pelican.
[6:11] Our slogan Our slogan is
[6:12] the Pelican And we are not
[6:16] pelican.
[6:16] We are pelicans and we love DR.
[6:17] Barnett.
[6:20] Well, we call him DR. At Bird
[6:21] Rock.
[6:21] So you'll hear him mentioned in
[6:22] this song And I have today with
[6:25] me a very Talia, Petra and
[6:26] Campbell and they're going to
[6:28] be singing our song.
[6:39] It's great to be a pelican and
[6:44] creatively again we find that
[6:50] again and again Got to be
[6:51] the way be jazz and get this
[6:55] every day we live we learn, we
[7:00] give and play We dance and sing
[7:05] The pelicans where we live we
[7:06] learn wages and we dance and
[7:11] sing and let them tell you why
[7:16] The pelicans we're not going
[7:34] anywhere And the Pelican Land
[7:35] Thank you.
[7:36] Our next speaker is James
[7:38] Savage.
[7:44] James speaking on item 34
[7:49] Pollinator Week James c of Yes
[7:54] 09090 sorry I couldn't read
[7:54] James apologize.
[7:55] No worries.
[7:55] Well I wanted to thank Council
[7:59] PRESIDENT LaCava and
[8:00] the members of the City Council
[8:01] Thank you today for recognizing
[8:04] Pollinator Week 2026 As someone
[8:05] who studies bees and
[8:09] representing the city of San
[8:09] Diego Obesity Initiative,
[8:10] pollinators are not just a
[8:14] symbol of nature they are part
[8:14] of our working infrastructure
[8:15] of healthy ecosystems In San
[8:19] Diego they support canyons,
[8:19] parks, gardens, native plants
[8:24] and even food and therefore
[8:25] they're really valuable part of
[8:25] our city.
[8:26] And I'm especially grateful
[8:29] that the city has taken
[8:30] the leadership role in
[8:31] the mayor's monarch pledge and
[8:31] particularly for supporting
[8:35] Edie 2254 the Monarch
[8:35] Protection Bill protecting
[8:40] Monarch Overwintering habitats
[8:41] in our California coast is
[8:45] exactly the kind of practical
[8:46] science based action that can
[8:46] make a real difference.
[8:47] So I think pollinator
[8:51] protection with the city's help
[8:52] is not just abstract We can
[8:53] dedicate ourselves to reducing
[8:56] chemicals, to planting
[8:57] biodiverse water, drought
[9:02] tolerant native plants and
[9:03] bringing our actions to make a
[9:03] real difference.
[9:04] >> Thank you for helping San
[9:05] Diego take the lead in this.
[9:11] Thank you.
[9:12] >> Our next speaker is Max
[9:12] Schmidt.
[9:27] Max Schmidt your final slip to
[9:30] speak to items 31 s 505 before
[9:31] so you will have a total of
[9:32] three minutes.
[9:32] >> Hi.
[9:36] I just wanted to say that I'm
[9:37] strongly opposed to all of
[9:42] these on new dates on we've got
[9:42] JUNE 22nd to 28th pollinator
[9:47] week JUNE 30th Shawna Anderson
[9:52] Day on JUNE AUGUST 26th Bird
[9:52] Rock Elementary Day JUNE 25th
[9:53] Mark Davis Day I'm opposed to
[9:58] all of those days strongly
[9:58] opposed to them very, very
[9:59] strongly, strongly opposed to
[10:03] them.
[10:03] And the reason why is because
[10:04] all they are are distractions
[10:08] and cover ups for
[10:09] the underground Catholic
[10:38] genocide to something or if I'm
[10:43] for something I'm about to say
[10:44] the reason I'm opposed to
[10:44] certain something I know my
[10:48] rights and the reason I'm
[10:49] opposed to these dates is
[10:53] because in my opinion with my
[10:53] First Amendment right I believe
[10:54] that they are cover up for a
[10:55] Catholic genocide happening in
[10:59] San Diego where people are
[11:00] being driven completely crazy
[11:04] and driven to suicide and and
[11:05] driven to drugs by being
[11:06] constantly surrounded by
[11:06] Freemasons who are telepathic,
[11:11] who've done hermetic chants in
[11:12] Masonic Lodge to become
[11:12] telepathic Freemasons surround
[11:17] Catholics and speak gibberish
[11:18] nonstop while saying their
[11:18] thoughts out loud to try to
[11:19] drive them crazy mentally ill
[11:24] suicidal into drugs And there's
[11:25] an underground genocide in that
[11:26] for city council to say like we
[11:30] support human rights and we
[11:30] support on all these human
[11:31] rights issues they're phonies
[11:36] if they support human rights
[11:37] then why are they covering up
[11:37] the Catholic genocide?
[11:38] And I know my first minute
[11:42] rights and I feel a little
[11:42] frustrated I was interrupted
[11:43] because if I come here and
[11:44] spend my time and say if I'm
[11:47] opposed to an issue I have
[11:48] the right to say why I'm
[11:48] opposed to it.
[11:49] And I believe that these on
[11:50] dates are cover ups for
[11:53] Catholic genocide that's
[11:54] happening in San Diego.
[11:55] It's a miracle I'm even alive
[12:00] right now because after being
[12:00] made homeless in the dead of
[12:01] winter by liberals in
[12:02] Cincinnati, I moved to San
[12:06] Diego to not freeze to death
[12:07] And I am for the past year when
[12:12] I go to job interviews they
[12:13] also speak gibberish to me and
[12:14] read my mind and mess with me.
[12:14] i can't get a job in San Diego
[12:18] and for the past year I've been
[12:19] followed around and had my head
[12:20] completely mentally destroyed
[12:24] by people speaking gibberish
[12:25] around me nonstop saying my
[12:26] thoughts And there's a truth of
[12:30] genocide and a city council are
[12:30] phonies.
[12:31] They don't care about human
[12:31] rights.
[12:32] They're covering up a Catholic
[12:33] genocide in San Diego And I
[12:34] don't want to be interrupted
[12:49] again.
[12:56] So what you might I mean this
[13:00] works but the jurors I mean it
[13:01] seems like the system is still
[13:06] glitching.
[13:12] No, you should do some
[13:20] housecleaning real quick.
[13:37] I brought my broom but we can
[13:48] hear you and they can hear So
[13:49] it's cool.
[13:55] I'm live so we're getting it
[13:55] out there.
[13:56] You know what I mean?
[13:56] This is not edited anyhow.
[14:01] It's good to see you guys on
[14:02] this level and like this is how
[14:02] it should be This close to
[14:03] the people know it terrifies
[14:06] you guys but you know to really
[14:07] feel like you're living and
[14:08] doing what the people need we
[14:12] should be on the same level and
[14:13] not you guys up on a diet that
[14:13] feels like you're trying to be
[14:18] above the people And so I'm
[14:22] going to connect 31 and 30 and
[14:23] 500 and that's 504 So with
[14:24] the Pollinator week I think you
[14:28] guys you know there's always
[14:29] underlying things when you have
[14:29] these proclamations And again I
[14:30] feel like you should spend more
[14:35] time on the rest of the agenda
[14:36] as you do on proclamations You
[14:36] spend a very long time on it
[14:40] and then it's like we just rush
[14:41] through the rest of
[14:41] the business.
[14:42] But with this pollinator stuff
[14:43] I mean there are things that
[14:46] are affecting pollinators like
[14:47] five g like the chem trails and
[14:52] even things like Roundup that
[14:53] are being sprayed to you know,
[14:54] kill certain weeds and stuff
[14:58] but like there's an effect that
[14:59] this has on the environment.
[15:00] And so you know, when we have
[15:00] people that are into
[15:04] environmental protection, I
[15:05] would think that they would be
[15:05] into geoengineering and making
[15:06] sure that you know, we don't
[15:10] have things like that that are
[15:11] not only detrimental to us as
[15:11] human beings but also
[15:12] the environment.
[15:16] And so you know, bees are
[15:17] heavily affected by five g and
[15:18] there aren't as many as there
[15:22] should be And this is why you
[15:23] know, the environment is
[15:24] affected And so it's like you
[15:27] guys want to talk about climate
[15:28] change and things like that but
[15:29] you don't talk about
[15:33] the manmade weather warfare
[15:34] that is happening and that is
[15:35] egregious because it's like
[15:39] that's affecting all of us And
[15:40] I just don't understand For
[15:41] people who do claim to care
[15:41] about the environment then that
[15:46] stuff should bother you And
[15:47] it's a disgrace to say this is
[15:47] pollinators week when there are
[15:48] things that are happening that
[15:52] are detrimental to them that
[15:52] could be stopped.
[15:53] It doesn't have to take place
[15:54] just like the storms didn't
[15:58] have to take place.
[15:59] But when there's you know,
[15:59] cloud seeding happening there's
[16:04] detriment that follows And so
[16:05] it's like if we don't, you
[16:06] know, acknowledge these things
[16:06] it's just I mean what's
[16:10] the point of doing this?
[16:11] And then for, you know,
[16:11] the librarian and for
[16:17] the elementary you know what
[16:18] bothers me is there's a lot of
[16:18] sexualization of children
[16:19] happening in schools And that
[16:19] is the truth.
[16:23] It's happening with books and
[16:23] you know, under the guise of
[16:24] pride.
[16:28] But this is very dangerous
[16:29] because I tell you guys all
[16:29] the time it leads to a grooming
[16:35] type of thing that leads kids
[16:35] to being victims of sexual
[16:36] assault because an adult can
[16:37] come up to them and talk to
[16:41] them about things that they
[16:42] shouldn't know about and
[16:42] shouldn't be learning in school
[16:43] even pronouns.
[16:43] That's not something that
[16:47] children should be learning.
[16:48] You know, they should be
[16:48] learning things that are going
[16:49] to help them in life And it
[16:50] feels like, you know, kids are
[16:54] failing because of curriculum
[16:55] and stuff like this.
[16:55] So I just feel like if you guys
[16:59] want to sit here and be so
[17:00] happy about things, we need to
[17:00] talk about the underlying
[17:01] things as well.
[17:01] >> Thank you.
[17:05] That does conclude your time.
[17:05] That concludes in-person public
[17:06] comment.
[17:06] I've started the five minute
[17:11] timer in council in committee
[17:11] room.
[17:12] We will now turn to the virtual
[17:13] queue in which there are
[17:17] currently three participants
[17:17] requesting to speak.
[17:18] Please state which proclamation
[17:23] item items you wish to speak
[17:23] to.
[17:24] We'll go first to caller with
[17:29] the last four digits 8700 if
[17:30] you can please unmute please
[17:35] proceed.
[17:35] Thank you.
[17:36] By the way I was applauding
[17:42] with everyone I'm going to do
[17:42] all of them.
[17:47] A deputy city clerk Hello?
[17:47] I'm sorry.
[17:47] I'm sorry.
[17:54] What was your question And no
[17:54] question a deputy city Clerk I
[17:59] will be doing all items.
[18:00] >> All items.
[18:00] Okay.
[18:00] Thank you.
[18:01] You'll have three minutes.
[18:02] I'm sorry about that.
[18:02] I think I was kind of muffled.
[18:06] Okay, so let's start with Bird
[18:06] Rock.
[18:12] Oh, my GOD.
[18:13] >> I just Those four faces.
[18:13] Those faces of the children in
[18:18] the song I mean, this is
[18:19] the beauty.
[18:19] This is the beauty.
[18:24] This is just part of the whole
[18:24] circle And I just Thank you.
[18:25] >> Thank you, You guys and
[18:26] gals, you were just so great.
[18:30] You just touched my heart.
[18:31] I love you so much.
[18:35] And then on the stage I just
[18:36] want to say that the very first
[18:37] speaker who spoke on that and
[18:42] he just said it so eloquently
[18:43] and I wanted to thank him for
[18:43] that.
[18:44] And Mark Davis, thank you for
[18:48] making the world better And
[18:49] then Shawna Anderson, same for
[18:49] you.
[18:53] I celebrate you and I thank you
[18:54] for making the world better.
[18:58] Now here's the main one for me
[18:59] today and that is number three
[19:00] which is pollinator week.
[19:04] So here we go enabling
[19:05] the reproduction of flowering
[19:11] plants standing well into
[19:12] the city usa affiliate.
[19:17] Love, love, love The mayor's
[19:17] Bonner Pledge.
[19:18] Thank you for that, Mayor.
[19:23] One of the pollinator year
[19:23] heroes to me is director of
[19:28] the World Beat Cultural Center
[19:29] in San Diego's Balboa Park with
[19:30] Kate Cheatham.
[19:34] Thank you Makita.
[19:35] You do beautiful things for San
[19:36] Diego and you love our
[19:40] pollinators.
[19:41] Okay.
[19:41] And then lastly I want to
[19:42] suggest that you Google
[19:47] the image of bees
[19:47] affectionately called pollen
[19:48] pants where they carry
[19:54] the pollen in the nectar back
[19:54] to the hive.
[19:55] It's just an amazing thing.
[19:59] It's actually the little bags
[20:05] are woven with hair and in just
[20:06] it's just an amazing thing.
[20:07] So I celebrate with all of you
[20:12] a great job in moving in
[20:12] adapting this morning and
[20:13] looking forward to the rest of
[20:17] the day and live to evolve.
[20:18] Thank you.
[20:19] Our next speaker is Blair
[20:20] Beekman.
[20:27] Please on you.
[20:28] All right.
[20:28] We're Beekman.
[20:29] Happy Tuesday morning to
[20:32] everyone.
[20:33] I wanted to speak on item 30.
[20:34] Just one item today.
[20:34] Okay.
[20:35] You'll have one minute.
[20:38] Thank you.
[20:39] >> Yeah, I just wanted to thank
[20:40] yourselves for this item to be
[20:45] thankful to our butterflies and
[20:46] bees is a good thing and it's
[20:51] nice to have to have such a
[20:51] proclamation for our
[20:52] pollinators.
[20:57] Thank you.
[20:58] Thank you For words of the ira
[20:58] in stressing the importance of
[20:59] all the things we have to
[21:03] consider so we can continue to
[21:03] have our flowers and an overall
[21:08] good luck that as we are all
[21:09] trying to understand you know
[21:10] different levels and forces
[21:14] that kind of hinder us and
[21:15] conflict with us as we try to
[21:15] work on our issues, we try to
[21:21] find the constructive ness out
[21:21] of it.
[21:22] Identifying the weaknesses is
[21:23] important but then finding
[21:23] the positive constructive ness
[21:26] out of it.
[21:27] Good luck how we can do that in
[21:28] the same public dialog I think
[21:29] that can be a good thing.
[21:33] I try to practice how to do
[21:33] that.
[21:34] Good luck from the negative
[21:35] Speak of the positive it makes
[21:39] for good meeting.
[21:39] >> Thank you.
[21:40] Thank you.
[21:40] Next speakers Kathleen Lippert
[21:51] please begin.
[21:51] >> Thank you.
[21:52] Good morning Council And thank
[21:52] you for this proclamation of
[21:57] the colony for the pollinators
[21:57] .
[21:58] I wanted to speak about
[21:58] phenology.
[21:59] It's the timing of endemic
[21:59] plant species and it's
[22:03] essential to understanding
[22:04] their growth cycles and which
[22:05] have evolved to be compatible
[22:09] with flowering fruiting plants
[22:10] ,bird migrations and endemic
[22:10] insects.
[22:11] If you have a pollinator with
[22:15] nothing to pollinate
[22:16] the pollinator dies fruiting
[22:17] and flowering and native
[22:22] natural environments evolve to
[22:22] be compatible so they can all
[22:23] survive.
[22:24] That process is disrupted when
[22:28] endemic insect and species are
[22:28] replaced with things like
[22:34] marijuana and hemp growth that
[22:34] are not native.
[22:35] They consume massive amounts of
[22:35] water and are grown with
[22:36] pesticides.
[22:40] Insecticides and herbicides
[22:40] that will poison native plants,
[22:41] insects and wildlife.
[22:46] Those who care enough to
[22:47] proclaim the importance of
[22:47] pollinators for a proclamation
[22:52] should recognize these harms
[22:53] address reference to something
[22:57] that does conclude your time.
[22:58] Our next speaker is Tony.
[23:15] Please begin Just Tony we can't
[23:15] hear you very well.
[23:21] We can hear like a tiny little
[23:21] bit.
[23:22] Can you turn up the volume or
[23:28] something That's better.
[23:29] >> You got to go into morning's
[23:33] council.
[23:34] How are you doing today?
[23:35] I'm just calling to say that I.
[23:40] I support the people which and
[23:41] all the initiatives to bring
[23:45] attention and highlight all
[23:46] the actions in support of bees
[23:46] and pollination.
[23:51] Pollination plays an essential
[23:51] role Food production supporting
[23:52] local bees that are needed to
[23:57] the area is super important.
[23:58] Honey bees often get all
[23:58] the credit and they get all
[24:03] the glory But we have we have
[24:04] to be and a number of other
[24:05] native bees that actually grow
[24:09] inside the ground And the more
[24:10] that we expand the cities and
[24:15] the more that we are able for
[24:16] everything in the country of
[24:16] everything we're getting rid of
[24:21] the spaces where the growth is
[24:27] Not all bees burrow in hives in
[24:28] big colonies like that We want
[24:28] to be honey bees.
[24:33] You want to know on that side.
[24:34] >> Thank you for your time.
[24:34] Thank you.
[24:35] That does conclude your time.
[24:39] I will note for the record
[24:39] the five minute timer has
[24:40] concluded with one speaker left
[24:41] in the queue.
[24:41] No other speakers will be
[24:41] taken.
[24:50] Natalie Raskin Please begin.
[24:50] >> Hey good morning.
[24:51] Thank you for having me today.
[24:52] It's Natalie Rush.
[24:55] I just wanted to comment on
[24:56] the Bee the Pollinator week.
[24:57] It's contradictory that we have
[25:01] this week but yet we still
[25:01] spray our skies with chemicals.
[25:02] I live in a big apartment
[25:07] complex and I even have
[25:08] pictures where they come in
[25:08] every summer and spray all
[25:13] the plants and we have massive
[25:14] amount of dead bees in
[25:15] the parking lot.
[25:15] So we're going to have
[25:16] pollinator week where we also
[25:20] going to do to protect them in
[25:20] areas such as the apartment
[25:24] complex who's using what
[25:25] chemicals to kill these bees
[25:31] and why we spray our skies.
[25:32] They want to see contrails or
[25:32] contrails?
[25:33] Which one is it?
[25:37] Because when we spray the skies
[25:37] we're spraying our children to
[25:43] fix.
[25:43] >> Thank you.
[25:44] That concludes the public
[25:45] comment on proclamation items.
[25:48] All right.
[25:49] Thank you, Deputy Clerk I'll
[25:50] kick off council member comment
[25:55] and move the proclamation Item
[25:56] three Pollinator work As we've
[25:57] heard in partnership with Mayor
[26:01] Gloria, this proclamation
[26:02] sustains the buzz that San
[26:03] Diego values its environmental
[26:03] impact as a designated bee city
[26:08] pollinators are proof that
[26:09] sometimes even the smallest
[26:09] constituents have the biggest
[26:10] impact And without our
[26:11] pollinators and native plants
[26:14] that go hand in hand to support
[26:15] our biodiversity, our local
[26:15] food system and economy, San
[26:19] Diego would not have
[26:20] the vibrant ecosystem that we
[26:20] know and love without
[26:21] pollinators from bees to
[26:22] butterflies and everything in
[26:26] between we rely heavily on
[26:27] these pollinators to sustain
[26:27] our communities.
[26:28] It is important that we
[26:28] continue to do everything we
[26:33] can in San Diego to protect our
[26:33] diverse ecosystem from the many
[26:34] challenges that their
[26:35] pollinators face including
[26:38] climate change.
[26:39] And I know my staff is taking
[26:39] notes based on some of
[26:40] the comments the public made.
[26:44] Thank you to all the scientists
[26:45] ,biologists, local
[26:45] environmental organizations,
[26:46] the volunteers who make it
[26:47] their mission to protect our
[26:51] cities pollinators and keep say
[26:51] the thriving and special thank
[26:56] you to Professor DR. James Nye
[26:56] for your research and your
[26:57] passion in this area.
[27:01] Item 5a1 word Rock Elementary
[27:01] 75th Anniversary day.
[27:02] So congratulations to
[27:06] the school for 75 years of
[27:07] service to the Youth Alliance
[27:08] San Diego through education and
[27:12] innovation.
[27:13] As many of you know, Bird Rock
[27:14] Elementary holds a special
[27:14] place in my family's heart.
[27:17] My wife taught there for more
[27:18] than 25 years and my children
[27:19] attended their elementary
[27:23] school years there being able
[27:23] to witness firsthand
[27:24] the dedication of care for
[27:25] the school and staff put into
[27:25] our youth is worthy to take a
[27:29] moment to celebrate this
[27:30] anniversary recognizing
[27:30] the leadership and teachers of
[27:31] the past to those who are
[27:35] leading and will lead to
[27:36] the school forward and to
[27:36] the parents.
[27:37] This is the first place that I
[27:41] did Community volunteer work so
[27:41] who knows?
[27:42] You do some community volunteer
[27:42] work.
[27:43] You end up as an elected
[27:46] official.
[27:47] I don't that's bad or good but
[27:48] at least that was my path away
[27:52] from earning multiple awards
[27:52] and honors as a California
[27:53] Distinguished School and one of
[27:54] America's healthiest schools,
[27:57] Murdoch Elementary continues to
[27:57] foster a thriving, supportive
[27:58] and premier community where
[28:03] students feel encouraged to
[28:04] learn and succeed leading today
[28:04] and sustaining high standards
[28:05] for students and
[28:08] the communities is the school's
[28:13] principal DR. Eric How DR.
[28:14] Bennett remains committed to
[28:19] ensuring the same Scuse me
[28:19] The Byrd Rock Elementary
[28:20] continues to be a place where
[28:21] students and parents alike feel
[28:24] confident and connected and
[28:25] with administrators like
[28:25] Principal DR. Bennett, staff
[28:31] teachers and parents Byrd Rock
[28:31] Elementary It's upheld
[28:32] the standards over the past 75
[28:32] years.
[28:35] Today we celebrate tomorrow I
[28:36] know you continue to work on
[28:41] behalf of the students Event
[28:42] Item 31 Shawn Anderson Day in
[28:43] partnership with Councilmember
[28:45] Yvonne Wolpert.
[28:46] I congratulate and thank John
[28:47] Anderson for her work and
[28:50] commitment of 26 years to
[28:51] the San Diego River Park With
[28:51] the past six years as
[28:56] the executive Director of
[28:56] the Joint Powers Authority,
[28:57] Shauna has been consistently at
[29:01] the forefront for local
[29:01] environmental protections and
[29:02] open space advocacy in District
[29:06] one from securing over $6
[29:07] million in state and federal
[29:08] funding for regional trail
[29:08] projects to being a respected
[29:11] leader to her peers and staff,
[29:12] she provided critical oversight
[29:13] on major habitat restoration
[29:17] projects built by others.
[29:18] But now with management
[29:18] responsibility, she drove
[29:23] critical advances to the long
[29:23] term build out of the 71 mile
[29:27] Coast to Coast Crest Trail with
[29:28] now 50 miles already in place,
[29:29] she transformed long term plans
[29:33] into groundbreaking projects
[29:34] that expand environmental
[29:34] access and restore natural
[29:39] habitat because of her
[29:39] residents and visitors are able
[29:40] to experience more of what San
[29:44] Diego and the region has to
[29:44] offer.
[29:45] Thank you Shauna for your
[29:46] exceptional work with the San
[29:49] Diego jpa and everything that
[29:50] you've done for our city.
[29:50] Congratulations on your
[29:51] retirement.
[29:51] Would you like to offer a few
[30:01] words?
[30:02] Thank you.
[30:02] Council PRESIDENT Joe LaCava I
[30:07] really like the connection
[30:08] between Pollinator Week and
[30:08] the San Diego River Park
[30:12] because protecting our open
[30:13] spaces and our river valleys
[30:17] through the San Diego region is
[30:18] so critical to our pollinators.
[30:22] I'd like to thank the city of
[30:22] San Diego for your years of
[30:27] support for the jpa
[30:28] particularly two board members
[30:31] current board board members Joe
[30:32] LaCava and Marni von Wilpert
[30:33] who've been on the board of
[30:33] the jpa since I've been
[30:36] the director.
[30:37] And for all your passion and
[30:41] engagement as we navigate
[30:42] the challenges protecting our
[30:46] open spaces 35 miles of those
[30:47] 50 miles of the Coastal Crest
[30:51] Trail and other trails in
[30:52] the park are within the city of
[30:53] San Diego City limits.
[30:56] I'd like to add to the team
[30:57] effort and I'd like to
[30:58] acknowledge some of our jpa
[30:58] staff that are here.
[31:01] Please raise your hand.
[31:02] We have a wonderful team of
[31:02] only 12 people and we
[31:06] accomplished so much.
[31:07] I'd like to thank my family
[31:08] who's also here.
[31:08] Please raise your hand.
[31:12] I like to say that I've raised
[31:13] my kids at the San Diego River
[31:16] Park and it's true.
[31:17] Uh, finally I'd like to give a
[31:22] quick thank you to the first
[31:22] responders and the fire
[31:23] department of the city of San
[31:29] Diego Yesterday a brush fire
[31:30] appeared next to Lake Hodges
[31:34] and thanks to the firefighters
[31:35] and first responders it was
[31:35] only a brush fire was contained
[31:40] within, you know, just a short
[31:40] time And thankfully protecting
[31:44] the San the important San Diego
[31:44] River Valley.
[31:45] So thank you so much.
[31:49] I appreciate the recognition.
[31:49] >> All right.
[31:50] Thank you, John.
[31:51] Again, congratulations that
[31:58] your time and again I will move
[31:59] the proclamation and we'll go
[31:59] to Councilmember Foster.
[32:00] Yes.
[32:03] Thank you, council PRESIDENT.
[32:04] And just a quick
[32:08] congratulations to all of
[32:08] the folks and organizations
[32:13] that are being recognized for
[32:13] the proclamations.
[32:16] I would like to speak briefly
[32:17] on item 30 and as five of four
[32:18] first starting with pollinator
[32:22] week 2026, just what we'd like
[32:22] to thank you council PRESIDENT
[32:26] And the mayor's office for
[32:27] bringing this proclamation
[32:27] forward.
[32:31] Also just want to recognize a
[32:31] very special place in District
[32:32] four known as the Paradise
[32:36] Hills Native Garden It with
[32:37] the work of your office and
[32:41] the mayor's office it has been
[32:41] incorporated into the city of
[32:45] San Diego's Bee City program
[32:46] And so it is just such a
[32:49] beautiful place And I say you
[32:50] know we talk about
[32:51] the resiliency of District four
[32:54] that Native Garden is actually
[32:55] built on an old landfill And so
[32:56] you can only imagine
[32:59] the challenges that go along
[33:00] with that as you can only, you
[33:03] know, penetrate to certain
[33:04] levels and degrees.
[33:05] And I tell you they have really
[33:09] found a way to to make that
[33:09] into a view to beautiful space.
[33:13] Not only do they have to be
[33:14] part of the bee garden that
[33:14] they that they have out there
[33:17] but they also have
[33:18] the butterfly garden as well.
[33:19] So if you ever have a chance
[33:20] you like gardening please stop
[33:23] by The Paradise Hills Native
[33:23] Garden is just a beautiful
[33:24] space and I say it's kind of
[33:27] like the zoo.
[33:28] They have all these species out
[33:29] there with all names of this
[33:32] species and it's really a
[33:32] beautiful educational place.
[33:33] So thank you.
[33:36] Just a big shout out to Nancy
[33:37] and West Jansen for and all
[33:38] the volunteers for everything
[33:38] that takes place at Paradise
[33:42] Hills Garden Also as 504 Mark
[33:47] Davis Day Um yeah Give him a
[33:51] round of applause.
[33:52] >> I'm proud to bring proud
[33:52] Hello Proud to bring this
[33:56] proclamation forward with Mayor
[33:56] Todd Glory to recognize Mark
[33:57] Davis day and celebrate a
[34:00] career that has meant so much
[34:04] to all park in our city for
[34:04] nearly four decades, Marc
[34:05] dedicated himself to public
[34:06] service and to creating spaces
[34:09] where people could learn,
[34:10] connect and feel welcomed.
[34:11] And if you ever been out to
[34:15] the Oak Park Library and
[34:15] the and the friends of
[34:16] the library in the events, it
[34:19] is truly truly a place that
[34:20] brings committee community
[34:24] together for fellowship.
[34:25] As we know libraries are our
[34:29] anchor in our community and
[34:30] again special places where we
[34:34] open the doors and just create
[34:35] fellowship and opportunity for
[34:35] our residents.
[34:36] And Mark understood that
[34:39] through his leadership in
[34:40] partnership with the Friends of
[34:40] the Oak Park Library,
[34:41] the branch became a trusted
[34:44] community space and brought
[34:44] people together and created
[34:45] opportunities for generations
[34:48] of residents And we see that
[34:49] impact directly in our office
[34:49] today.
[34:53] As you saw through the efforts
[34:53] there and my my engagement with
[34:58] the Oak Park community and
[34:58] the friends of the Oak Park
[34:59] Library Jackson that came up
[35:03] and gave comment is now an
[35:03] intern in my office and he made
[35:07] it very adamant that he wanted
[35:08] getting around that he wanted
[35:08] to be here today to recognize
[35:12] Mark So just really want to
[35:13] just really appreciate
[35:14] the partnership Mark built with
[35:17] the community libraries staff
[35:18] and his commitment to making
[35:18] sure the future of the Oak Park
[35:21] Library reflected the needs of
[35:22] the people who use it every
[35:22] day.
[35:26] So on behalf of District four
[35:27] and the Oak Park Community
[35:28] Friends of the Oak Park Library
[35:31] and the City of San Diego Marc
[35:32] just thank you for your
[35:32] service, your leadership and
[35:36] for everything you have given
[35:37] to Oak Park and the city of San
[35:37] Diego.
[35:41] And I just want you to really
[35:42] enjoy this next chapter and it
[35:45] is well deserved And of course
[35:46] you are invited and want to
[35:48] make sure we see you at the new
[35:54] Oak Park opening when we get
[35:54] that building completed.
[35:58] So looking forward to having
[35:58] you there.
[35:59] Mark would you like to say a
[36:02] few words If you want.
[36:03] Okay.
[36:17] Please.
[36:18] All right coworkers.
[36:18] It might have been nice if you
[36:19] let me know that I was going to
[36:26] be speaking today ahead of time
[36:27] .
[36:27] Know our libraries are
[36:31] definitely are hubs to our
[36:32] communities more than just
[36:33] places for educational
[36:37] materials but they are
[36:37] community centers and I'm very
[36:41] happy and proud to have been
[36:42] able to work in one and and
[36:46] serve a community in the city.
[36:47] And I want to remind you guys,
[36:50] a dollar for dollar investments
[36:51] in libraries is probably more
[36:52] effective than fighting crime
[36:55] than investment in police.
[36:56] >> So thank you for restoring
[36:59] as much of the library funding
[37:00] as you were able.
[37:04] >> I appreciate it.
[37:05] Thank you.
[37:06] Thank you so much tonight And
[37:09] I'm sure I'm sure Anita Chavez
[37:10] will be giving you a big giant
[37:15] hug as you retired But looking
[37:15] forward to having you at
[37:19] the opening of the New Oak Park
[37:19] Library.
[37:20] So with that I will second
[37:23] the motion and thank you for
[37:24] the opportunity Counsel
[37:24] present.
[37:25] All right.
[37:25] Thank you.
[37:28] So we have a motion by myself
[37:29] and a second by Councilmember
[37:30] Foster and with a proclamation
[37:31] so I don't see anybody else on
[37:33] the lights So please call
[37:34] the roll Deputy Clerk I have
[37:34] set up the voting system.
[37:47] Please cast your vote.
[37:47] Councilmember Weprin, could you
[37:50] state your vote for the record,
[37:51] please?
[38:00] >> Thank you.
[38:01] The item passes unanimously
[38:04] with the council District five
[38:04] absent.
[38:04] >> All right.
[38:08] Thank you for that for continue
[38:09] to ask the indulgence of those
[38:13] assembled here.
[38:14] We're going to pause briefly to
[38:15] go out in the chamber to take
[38:18] pictures with the four
[38:18] recipient of the proclamations
[38:19] anybody who wants to come into
[38:22] chambers and witness
[38:23] the photos, you're welcome to
[38:27] do that If you choose to leave
[38:27] two elevators are are working.
[38:32] I've been told the two
[38:33] elevators are in fact working
[38:36] so you won't have to walk all
[38:37] the way back down.
[38:38] So my colleagues would join me
[38:40] in chambers for that.
[38:40] We can take pictures with
[39:42] the four recipients that don't
[39:43] Oh I mean somebody just has
[40:32] this opportunity to up
[41:14] and
[41:15] you
[41:45] know Yeah, yeah.
[42:36] Check One, two, three, four
[44:36] And
[46:04] the events that started right
[48:04] here in say
[49:36] just Okay, we're back from a
[49:40] brief pause But Kevin why don't
[49:41] you take attendance?
[49:50] >> The council members security
[49:50] Council member Campbell here
[49:51] Council member Whitburn here
[49:57] Council member Foster Von
[49:58] Wilpert Council PRESIDENT Pro
[50:03] Tem Lee Council Member Campos
[50:03] Council Member Moreno Present
[50:07] Council Member Eli Rivera
[50:08] Resident for PRESIDENT LaCava
[50:12] present All right Thank you And
[50:12] again thank you for indulging
[50:15] us as we kind of navigate these
[50:16] 10:00 technical problems.
[50:17] So we're going to proceed with
[50:17] the approval of the consent
[50:21] items and there are two
[50:22] corrective statements for
[50:26] the record our City Attorney
[50:26] Thank you Council PRESIDENT On
[50:30] item as 501 our office will be
[50:31] submitting a corrected digest
[50:35] and ordinance to clarify that
[50:35] the ordinance if approved will
[50:36] remain in effect without any
[50:40] further action by council If
[50:44] Vehicle code section 21214.7 is
[50:44] extended by the state
[50:45] legislature.
[50:48] All right.
[50:49] >> Thank you for that.
[50:50] And I believe the office of
[50:50] the mayor has a correction as
[50:51] well.
[50:51] Thank you.
[50:54] Council PRESIDENT For item 100.
[50:54] The staff report on resolution
[50:55] indicate that appointee
[50:58] Stephanie Benvenuto resides in
[50:59] Council District one.
[51:00] However she actually resides in
[51:02] Council District two.
[51:03] >> a correct id resolution will
[51:04] be submitted following
[51:04] the meeting.
[51:07] There we go with that.
[51:08] Are there any requests to pull
[51:12] an item or any of the items by
[51:12] the council?
[51:13] I don't see any request So with
[51:14] that Deputy clerk please
[51:17] proceed with public testimony
[51:18] on the consent items.
[51:18] >> Thank you.
[51:22] Council PRESIDENT Please note
[51:23] each speaker will have one
[51:23] minute per item per person.
[51:27] If you would like to speak on
[51:28] three or more items you will
[51:28] have a maximum of three
[51:29] minutes.
[51:29] The consent agenda includes
[51:36] items 1050 through 52 100 1a1
[51:39] as a5a1 as 502 and as 503 Also
[51:40] let me note for the record
[51:41] the potential appointments that
[51:44] are on the agenda this morning
[51:45] Item 100 at the potential
[51:45] appointment of Stephanie
[51:49] Benvenuto, John Ford, Tyler
[51:50] Martin and Tiffany McDaniel to
[51:54] the homelessness revenue
[51:55] Account Citizens Oversight
[51:59] Committee Item 101 is
[51:59] the potential appointment of
[52:00] Tom Harmon to the Board of
[52:03] Building Appeals and Advisors.
[52:09] We did receive comments on item
[52:10] 5a1 on our e comment form which
[52:10] has been distributed to
[52:14] the Council that we will go to
[52:14] in-person comment.
[52:18] Max Schmitt please come
[52:18] forward.
[52:23] You have submitted speaker
[52:23] slips on all of the consent
[52:24] items so you will have a
[52:26] maximum of three minutes.
[52:31] Hi I just wanted to use my
[52:32] First Amendment right here
[52:36] today at City Hall and say that
[52:40] with my First Amendment right
[52:44] in my opinion I am opposed to
[52:49] all of the consent agenda items
[52:50] .
[52:50] I'm opposed to every single one
[52:51] with my First Amendment right
[52:55] and in my opinion and I want to
[53:00] say the reason why the reason
[53:01] why I'm opposed to all of these
[53:04] items is because I believe that
[53:09] every thing should be stopped
[53:14] and that the city government
[53:18] should actually be shut down
[53:19] until more awareness is drawn
[53:23] about the Catholic genocide and
[53:23] if I'm going to get in trouble
[53:27] for not staying on topic one of
[53:27] the item 100 is appointments to
[53:28] the Homeless Revenue account
[53:31] Citizens Oversight Committee.
[53:32] I think the Homeless Revenue
[53:36] Oversight Committee should be
[53:37] shut down until awareness is
[53:42] drawn on homeless Catholic
[53:42] people are.
[53:43] You can call it death by
[53:46] gibberish where Freemasons
[53:47] surround homeless Catholic
[53:51] people and speak gibberish
[53:52] nonstop to the point they go
[53:56] mentally ill commit suicide or
[53:56] turn to drugs and it's an
[54:00] underground hidden genocide and
[54:01] I want to say the reason why
[54:02] I'm opposed these items and why
[54:05] it's such a big deal is because
[54:10] homeless people are dying and
[54:11] they're being intentionally
[54:15] driven to suicide,
[54:19] intentionally driven to drugs
[54:20] by armed telepathic people
[54:24] surrounding them nonstop
[54:25] surrounding them at
[54:29] the homeless shelter
[54:29] surrounding them and public
[54:30] transit surrounding them every
[54:34] single where every single place
[54:35] they go and speaking gibberish
[54:39] so that their mind is so that
[54:39] they their mind is constantly
[54:40] going insane.
[54:44] It's imagine being forced to
[54:44] wear headphones that all you
[54:48] hear is gibberish all day long
[54:49] through these headphones and
[54:53] then half the time if you can
[54:53] make out any of the gibberish
[54:54] it's saying your thoughts out
[54:58] loud.
[54:58] Imagine how that could drive
[54:59] someone to suicide or drug
[55:02] addiction.
[55:03] There is an underground
[55:07] genocide on in San Diego that's
[55:08] being covered up and city
[55:12] council are phonies.
[55:12] They don't care about human
[55:17] rights because they know about
[55:18] this underground genocide.
[55:18] And the reason I know why is
[55:19] because when I come to city
[55:23] hall, city council members are
[55:23] actually intentionally speaking
[55:24] gibberish to try to drive me
[55:28] crazy And they know they're
[55:28] guilty and I'm not stupid.
[55:32] Stop targeting Catholics.
[55:33] >> Shame on all of you.
[55:33] Thank you.
[55:34] That does conclude your time
[55:34] Allegedly.
[55:37] Audra, please come forward and
[55:40] state the items you'd like to
[55:45] speak to.
[55:46] We'll cover as much as
[55:46] possible.
[55:46] Okay.
[55:51] The three minutes listed items
[55:53] 5050 to 100 as 501 as 502 and
[55:54] that's 503 on your speaker
[55:54] slip.
[55:55] That's right.
[55:55] Three minutes.
[55:57] Let's do this.
[55:57] All right.
[55:58] Fun fact flies also pollinate.
[56:02] So that's interesting.
[56:03] You MAY not want to kill them.
[56:04] You know what I mean?
[56:04] It's like they also you know
[56:07] there's a reason why they go
[56:08] after any who So yes, I'll
[56:09] continue to say this with your
[56:13] software agreements I feel like
[56:13] it is very negligent when we
[56:17] are engaging with these
[56:17] monopolies that have all of
[56:18] the government information
[56:22] Again because it seems
[56:22] convenient but it's very
[56:23] dangerous with the people who
[56:27] are have nefarious intentions
[56:31] like BlackRock and Vanguard who
[56:32] are you know, just being given
[56:32] our data it's crazy.
[56:36] >> Nobody cares.
[56:36] And then there's appointment
[56:37] for the homeless revenue
[56:41] account.
[56:41] I feel like you should rename
[56:42] that because it sounds like
[56:43] you're making money off
[56:46] the homeless.
[56:47] I mean you do but I feel like
[56:48] it needs to be more along
[56:51] the lines of the you know,
[56:51] homelessness o t revenue
[56:56] account because it really does
[56:56] it doesn't it doesn't look
[56:57] good.
[56:57] But I guess let's be
[57:01] transparent with the people so
[57:02] that they know you know what I
[57:02] mean that they're you know a
[57:05] hot commodity because they make
[57:05] you a lot of money And with
[57:10] this electric bike stuff I just
[57:10] feel like eventually these are
[57:11] going to be regulated like
[57:11] cars.
[57:15] So you're going to need a
[57:15] license and insurance and all
[57:16] of that stuff.
[57:19] So I mean people Sean, that
[57:20] bike you know what I mean?
[57:20] You're going to have to get a
[57:21] specific license for it and
[57:24] children will too.
[57:25] So it's interesting And then
[57:29] with this emergency ambulance
[57:29] transportation billing so I
[57:30] understand this is for billing
[57:34] but ambulances like full
[57:35] ambulance are ambulances that
[57:38] are picking people up And I
[57:39] would like to specify ambulance
[57:43] number 36 that is engaged in
[57:44] drugging people Falck also
[57:49] manufacturers some of these
[57:49] drugs that they use to kind of
[57:54] sedate people and it is
[57:54] something that is known that
[57:55] happens in ambulances not just
[57:58] in fog but across the nation
[57:59] and probably the world where
[58:00] people who get sedated also get
[58:04] sexually assaulted.
[58:05] And Andrea Epping had a rape
[58:06] kit done after she was in a
[58:09] fall ambulance after she was
[58:09] assaulted by Anthony Warner San
[58:14] Diego pd Officer and put into
[58:15] this ambulance and one of those
[58:15] like burritos or you know they
[58:18] just like wrap you up it's a
[58:19] wrap or whatever And she wound
[58:20] up in the hospital with no
[58:24] clothes and they're like Where
[58:24] are your clothes?
[58:25] I mean she had them at
[58:28] the skate park.
[58:29] Raul is in your district but
[58:30] evidently when she ended up in
[58:34] the hospital there were no
[58:35] clothes and she had a rape kit
[58:36] done And when that was done
[58:38] they said this is one of
[58:39] the worst cases I've seen And I
[58:40] saw a bunch of bruises on her
[58:44] legs that look like, you know,
[58:44] fingerprints on the inside of
[58:49] her thighs And so it's very
[58:49] concerning to know that this is
[58:50] happening in the city of San
[58:54] Diego And right now they have
[58:55] deemed her incompetent.
[58:56] So you know, all of this can
[58:57] get buried under the rock.
[59:01] >> Good job.
[59:12] But the risky police state
[59:13] the item you would like to
[59:16] speak to item ten the minutes.
[59:16] Okay.
[59:17] Thank you.
[59:18] I just like to say that I'd
[59:21] like to see more detail in
[59:22] the minutes rather than less.
[59:22] The minutes are supposed to
[59:26] reflect what happened at
[59:27] the meeting.
[59:27] They're searchable so people
[59:28] can look for what they're
[59:32] interested in and I've heard
[59:32] that push to actually reduce
[59:33] the amount of detail in
[59:37] the minutes when citizens speak
[59:37] rather than increase it And I
[59:38] think it should be increased so
[59:42] that what we say here is at
[59:42] least captured to some degree.
[59:46] I know it has to be summarized
[59:47] might be something for you to
[59:48] do at some point But I do think
[59:52] that you know, I spent six
[59:53] hours here yesterday waiting to
[59:57] give a two minute speech and i
[59:58] think the citizens deserve a
[59:58] little more than just their
[1:00:02] name And a couple of words Also
[1:00:03] I don't understand why we're
[1:00:06] now reducing all citizen
[1:00:07] comments to one minute.
[1:00:08] There's not that many speakers
[1:00:08] here.
[1:00:09] There's no justification to not
[1:00:12] have two minutes today And I've
[1:00:13] seen it again and again Now I
[1:00:14] can understand if you have a
[1:00:17] council full of you know, a
[1:00:18] chamber full of people as we
[1:00:19] did yesterday with the telecom
[1:00:23] but in general we should
[1:00:23] reserve two minutes for
[1:00:24] the Brown Act.
[1:00:24] Thank you concludes your time
[1:00:34] And Anthony Ralphs please state
[1:00:34] the items you'd like to speak
[1:00:39] to Like to speak to item ten
[1:00:39] I'd like to speak to item 100
[1:00:44] and I'd like to speak to item
[1:00:44] 501 please.
[1:00:45] So you'll have three minutes
[1:00:50] with regard to item ten.
[1:00:50] Well first of all good
[1:00:53] afternoon City Council With
[1:00:54] regard to item ten I would like
[1:00:55] to say that I strongly agree
[1:01:00] with what Bob just shared.
[1:01:01] I also share that position as
[1:01:01] well.
[1:01:02] I think that if we were making
[1:01:06] the time to park down here for
[1:01:06] making a time to sit here for
[1:01:07] hours if we're making the time
[1:01:08] to routinely show up, I think
[1:01:11] that we all deserve to have
[1:01:12] what we say recorded as
[1:01:12] accurately as possible and as
[1:01:17] thoroughly as possible.
[1:01:21] Moving on to item 100 I've good
[1:01:22] luck with these appointments.
[1:01:23] I know that empty seats can't
[1:01:23] make the important decisions
[1:01:27] that are needed with regard to
[1:01:28] all of these issues So I hope
[1:01:28] that these people are
[1:01:29] appointed.
[1:01:33] I'm not sure who they are but I
[1:01:33] hope that they are qualified
[1:01:38] and good luck to them and with
[1:01:39] regard to item s501
[1:01:44] the Municipal Code the new
[1:01:49] sections eight for 19 420 and
[1:01:49] 8421 relating to electric
[1:01:50] bicycle safety.
[1:01:50] I'm assuming that that's I
[1:01:55] actually have not seen those
[1:01:56] codes specifically so I can't
[1:01:57] speak to all the nuances within
[1:02:01] them but I just wanted to share
[1:02:01] my own personal testimony with
[1:02:02] regard to electrical bicycle
[1:02:07] safety and share that my
[1:02:08] brother's almost been hit by an
[1:02:08] electric bike actually grazed
[1:02:13] his bass almost and thankfully
[1:02:13] it didn't hurt him and it
[1:02:18] didn't hurt his bass But I'm
[1:02:19] sure that you hear stories like
[1:02:20] this all the time so I won't
[1:02:21] bore you with more details Just
[1:02:24] hoping that we can do something
[1:02:25] with regard to public safety
[1:02:26] with these electric bicycles.
[1:02:29] Thank you.
[1:02:30] Thank you.
[1:02:31] That concludes in-person public
[1:02:36] comment.
[1:02:36] I've started the five minute
[1:02:37] timer in the committee room.
[1:02:38] We will now turn to the virtual
[1:02:42] queue in which there are seven
[1:02:42] participants requesting to
[1:02:43] speak.
[1:02:52] We'll begin with John Elway.
[1:02:53] John, please begin.
[1:02:53] Thank you.
[1:02:53] Good morning.
[1:02:57] City COUNCILMAN John Brady with
[1:02:58] Experience Advisors.
[1:02:58] I'd like to speak on
[1:03:01] the consent agenda and item 100
[1:03:02] please.
[1:03:02] Thank you.
[1:03:09] So I want I'm sorry item 100.
[1:03:09] Yes.
[1:03:09] Yes.
[1:03:09] Okay.
[1:03:13] Well, I wanted to thank you and
[1:03:13] also the consent agenda item
[1:03:14] 100 is on the consent agenda.
[1:03:20] >> Oh, sorry about that.
[1:03:21] I don't want to speak on
[1:03:21] the item related to
[1:03:22] the Homeless revenue Committee
[1:03:22] as well.
[1:03:26] Okay.
[1:03:26] >> Thank you.
[1:03:27] It's two minutes please.
[1:03:32] So I am concerned about this
[1:03:33] homeless revenue committee.
[1:03:34] I we've spoken with our members
[1:03:35] the way the language of this
[1:03:38] committee is set up.
[1:03:38] It appears that no one from
[1:03:39] the homeless services base
[1:03:44] could actually serve on their
[1:03:45] committee if they are if they
[1:03:46] are recipients of any city
[1:03:50] funding which is almost
[1:03:51] everyone in this space
[1:03:52] including our own and what
[1:03:56] appears to be developing based
[1:03:57] on the first four appointments
[1:03:58] is that there is no homeless
[1:04:02] services or knowledge or
[1:04:03] experience happening And on top
[1:04:09] of it we are and I know no
[1:04:09] problem with the individuals or
[1:04:10] the resumes but what's
[1:04:11] happening is we are actually
[1:04:11] creating an exception for
[1:04:15] someone who does not live in
[1:04:15] the city who is a lobbyist.
[1:04:16] This committee, if it has
[1:04:21] impact over how this funding is
[1:04:22] spent looks like to me it will
[1:04:22] largely be made up by business
[1:04:26] people and no one with any
[1:04:27] lived experience or knowledge
[1:04:33] of the industry itself And that
[1:04:33] is problematic for us.
[1:04:34] As to the public comment area,
[1:04:39] I did want to say that when you
[1:04:44] call in right now you get an
[1:04:45] error.
[1:04:45] If you dial in and enter
[1:04:46] the code it says either it
[1:04:50] doesn't recognize it or ask for
[1:04:50] the code again and people hang
[1:04:51] up.
[1:04:51] Also when we pull an item like
[1:04:56] yesterday on path we had two
[1:04:57] people set up to speak but we
[1:04:58] could not give them time to get
[1:04:58] on the phone because there was
[1:05:01] not the presentation that was
[1:05:01] planned for.
[1:05:06] Thank you.
[1:05:07] Thank you.
[1:05:12] Our next speaker is Aurora
[1:05:12] Livingston.
[1:05:13] Please state the items that you
[1:05:14] would like to speak to and
[1:05:18] begin.
[1:05:19] >> Good morning Council
[1:05:19] PRESIDENT And Council members.
[1:05:24] My name is Aurora and I'm
[1:05:25] speaking today on behalf of
[1:05:26] California State Senator
[1:05:30] Catherine Blake Speer on item
[1:05:31] s5a1 The Senator supports this
[1:05:32] ordinance to improve e-bike
[1:05:37] safety and thanks Councilmember
[1:05:38] Campo for his leadership on
[1:05:38] this important issue.
[1:05:42] Senator Blake's Mayor I applaud
[1:05:42] the city of San Diego for
[1:05:43] taking such a thoughtful
[1:05:44] education First approach to
[1:05:48] improving e-bike safety e-bikes
[1:05:49] really are an important part of
[1:05:49] our transportation system.
[1:05:53] They provide a sustainable
[1:05:54] mobility option for many
[1:05:54] residents.
[1:05:55] Unfortunately there have been
[1:05:56] serious injuries involving
[1:06:00] young riders who MAY not have
[1:06:00] the training or understand
[1:06:01] the rules of the road to safely
[1:06:06] operate these e-bikes.
[1:06:06] This ordinance strikes
[1:06:07] the right balance by
[1:06:08] establishing a reasonable age
[1:06:12] restriction and prioritizing
[1:06:12] public education And these are
[1:06:13] commonsense guardrails that
[1:06:14] focus on prevention and will
[1:06:19] help keep all road users safe.
[1:06:19] Senator Alex Mayor looks
[1:06:20] forward to advancing
[1:06:21] complementary state legislation
[1:06:24] to strengthen e-bike safety
[1:06:25] standards and improve consumer
[1:06:25] protections.
[1:06:26] >> Thank you.
[1:06:30] Thank you.
[1:06:31] Our next speaker is Leif
[1:06:31] Ganzer.
[1:06:32] Please state the item you would
[1:06:37] like to speak to.
[1:06:38] >> I am a novice.
[1:06:39] My name is left and I want to
[1:06:45] speak on 5a1.
[1:06:46] I must have one bike right off
[1:06:47] I take it to the grocery store
[1:06:48] On the right is all the time I
[1:06:49] have a class one e-bike which
[1:06:49] is limited to 20mph.
[1:06:50] I want to point out that you
[1:06:55] picked up the worst statement
[1:06:55] to support when it comes to
[1:06:56] e-bikes.
[1:06:57] There is no bicycle at all that
[1:06:57] it supports This particular
[1:07:01] bill especially because it
[1:07:02] would limit children under 12
[1:07:02] to ride Class one and Class two
[1:07:03] e-bikes.
[1:07:03] These are not the e-bikes that
[1:07:07] people are always talking about
[1:07:07] these monthly models.
[1:07:08] These are typically not
[1:07:09] the e-bikes that kids are doing
[1:07:09] these on.
[1:07:13] I want you to understand this
[1:07:13] has nothing to do with kids
[1:07:14] riding on the highway.
[1:07:15] There's nothing to do with kids
[1:07:17] doing wheelies.
[1:07:18] Please don't use the excuse
[1:07:19] that you're doing something
[1:07:19] because what you're doing is
[1:07:24] you're doing the easy thing and
[1:07:25] you are creating bad things for
[1:07:25] people that cannot vote.
[1:07:30] So if you care about e-bike
[1:07:31] safety you would be
[1:07:31] consistently and fully about
[1:07:32] implementing safe bicycle
[1:07:36] infrastructure.
[1:07:37] Might ask if you can do all of
[1:07:37] the education first off and yes
[1:07:42] you can all the education all I
[1:07:43] don't even I'm opposed to
[1:07:44] better enforcement but please
[1:07:50] take out the restriction on
[1:07:51] class one and custom e-bikes.
[1:07:51] That's all I've got.
[1:07:52] Thank you.
[1:07:52] That concludes your time.
[1:07:54] Please note that the five
[1:07:54] minute timer has concluded with
[1:07:55] five speakers left in
[1:07:55] the queue.
[1:08:00] No other speakers will be taken
[1:08:01] .
[1:08:01] Next up is Ross Tritt.
[1:08:03] Please state the time you'd
[1:08:10] like to speak to me in.
[1:08:11] Thank you.
[1:08:11] Speaking on this final one.
[1:08:12] Good morning to all
[1:08:12] the PRESIDENT With all
[1:08:16] the members of the San Diego
[1:08:17] Zoo Counsel.
[1:08:18] My name is Ross Trade and I'm
[1:08:18] speaking on behalf of
[1:08:19] Assemblymember Brenner in
[1:08:22] support of item as 5a1 which
[1:08:23] would opposite of the need to
[1:08:27] go into the 20 to 34 pilot
[1:08:28] program that you can do
[1:08:29] COUNCILMAN Camp over target
[1:08:29] championing this ordinance in
[1:08:32] San Diego.
[1:08:33] Assembly member DR. Brenner
[1:08:34] authored 80.34 in response to
[1:08:39] the growing number of pigeons
[1:08:39] involving young riders across
[1:08:40] the district.
[1:08:40] As a mom of two children, she
[1:08:45] knows firsthand how important
[1:08:46] it is to keep our kids safe on
[1:08:46] the road.
[1:08:47] And this is really just a
[1:08:48] common sense change that gives
[1:08:51] cities the tools to protect
[1:08:52] families and prevent a tragic
[1:08:52] accident from happening.
[1:08:53] I respectfully ask for your
[1:08:56] vote and thank you.
[1:09:01] Our next speaker is Blair being
[1:09:02] pleased that the item or items
[1:09:10] he wished to speak to?
[1:09:10] >> Hi.
[1:09:11] Blair Bateman I wanted to speak
[1:09:12] to It's 5a1 that's 5a3 an item
[1:09:13] 51.
[1:09:13] >> You'll have three minutes.
[1:09:19] Please proceed.
[1:09:19] >> Okay.
[1:09:20] Thank you.
[1:09:24] I guess first to 5 or 1
[1:09:25] the electrical electric
[1:09:30] electrical electric bikes that
[1:09:31] I come up to to more from what
[1:09:35] the future of infrastructure is
[1:09:36] going to be like in terms of
[1:09:37] our smart cities and e-bike use
[1:09:41] And do we have good tech
[1:09:42] accountability practices and
[1:09:42] policies for the future of
[1:09:47] e-bikes?
[1:09:47] The argument you guys are
[1:09:53] having right now is interesting
[1:09:53] .
[1:09:54] Good luck how it can be
[1:09:54] debated.
[1:09:55] I think people should have
[1:09:55] freedom but I guess that can
[1:09:59] always be limitations with
[1:10:00] the need for safety.
[1:10:01] Good luck in finding that good
[1:10:05] balance and good luck on tech
[1:10:06] accountability Good check
[1:10:06] accountability with the future
[1:10:11] of e-bikes for item I need open
[1:10:17] policy and best practices for
[1:10:18] both emergency transport
[1:10:24] billing and collection services
[1:10:25] items.
[1:10:25] I wanted to reiterate the words
[1:10:26] of Dara We're doing our
[1:10:29] ambulance service stuff.
[1:10:30] Do we need a review of how our
[1:10:31] ambulance workers are taking
[1:10:35] care of our people?
[1:10:36] I think it should be front and
[1:10:37] center of how we address
[1:10:41] ourselves at this time and with
[1:10:41] the police issues as well.
[1:10:42] I've been mentioning that I'm
[1:10:43] really surprised at what's
[1:10:48] happening to Andrea.
[1:10:48] I mean she's a pretty innocent
[1:10:49] person and she's getting real
[1:10:53] railroad treatment right now.
[1:10:54] She's her rights are being
[1:10:54] taken away And I think we have
[1:10:55] to really work something right
[1:11:00] now and start better
[1:11:00] principles.
[1:11:01] Good luck how we can do that
[1:11:02] and addressing exactly what
[1:11:05] the Ari was talking about,
[1:11:06] what's going on with how
[1:11:06] ambulance workers take people
[1:11:11] to the hospital, what's going
[1:11:12] on in that time period, Those
[1:11:12] things have to be addressed.
[1:11:16] Is it larger than just Andrea's
[1:11:17] issue here in San Diego?
[1:11:17] We have to consider all these
[1:11:18] things.
[1:11:27] Um, and also for item 51
[1:11:28] improvements and modernization
[1:11:33] project for a an improvement
[1:11:33] I'm learning important lessons
[1:11:34] in the difference between storm
[1:11:40] water storm drain issues and
[1:11:41] these are sewer systems.
[1:11:41] These are all different
[1:11:42] classifications.
[1:11:45] I spoke much a week or so ago
[1:11:46] on my feelings of storm water
[1:11:47] issues when you were working on
[1:11:51] Storm drain issues the related
[1:11:52] but there can be a bit of
[1:11:53] differences and I didn't mark
[1:11:57] those differences I wish I did.
[1:11:58] I really tried to be heartfelt
[1:12:03] in my work last week and I was
[1:12:04] spoken to what is the more
[1:12:04] proper order of how to talk
[1:12:08] about the things But
[1:12:09] nonetheless my words have good
[1:12:10] intentions for everyone and I
[1:12:15] hope we continue to work on our
[1:12:15] stuff and work on clarifying
[1:12:16] language when we clarify each
[1:12:17] other that it can be done
[1:12:17] softly.
[1:12:21] It's I have to learn that too.
[1:12:22] >> Thank you.
[1:12:22] Thank you.
[1:12:23] Natalie Raskin Please state
[1:12:24] which item or items you wish to
[1:12:36] speak to.
[1:12:37] I Can you hear me?
[1:12:37] Yes I can hear you.
[1:12:38] Which item would you like to
[1:12:42] speak on Consent Item one 100
[1:12:43] 100.
[1:12:43] Okay.
[1:12:48] That's Natalie Roski.
[1:12:48] The title is kind of concerning
[1:12:49] to me.
[1:12:54] It does sound a bit boxy More
[1:12:59] on ish.
[1:13:00] It's concerning to me also that
[1:13:00] there's appointed for people to
[1:13:06] this board and I want to go
[1:13:06] fill out an application and
[1:13:07] it's saying it's not taken any
[1:13:09] applications and that there are
[1:13:16] seven seats available.
[1:13:17] I think with the transparency
[1:13:17] that is happening through
[1:13:22] the city and with its
[1:13:23] constituents I'm supposed to be
[1:13:28] a stakeholder but it doesn't
[1:13:29] seem that my stake holding
[1:13:34] seems to be noticed too much
[1:13:35] with this I got a letter from
[1:13:36] the housing Commission that my
[1:13:40] age We will end NOVEMBER 30th
[1:13:41] and then I will no longer be a
[1:13:45] part of any housing commission
[1:13:46] available.
[1:13:52] >> Thank you.
[1:13:52] That does conclude your time.
[1:13:53] The next speaker the caller
[1:13:58] with the last four digits 8700
[1:13:59] Please state the item or
[1:14:10] anybody wish to speak to Am I
[1:14:17] on You are on which item would
[1:14:17] you like to okay Sorry Deputy
[1:14:18] City Clerk Good.
[1:14:21] >> You're doing such a good
[1:14:22] job.
[1:14:28] 5051 Excuse me a hundred 5 or 1
[1:14:33] two, 213 and four and two.
[1:14:33] I'm sorry.
[1:14:34] Did you get that or you want me
[1:14:38] redo it?
[1:14:38] >> I got that.
[1:14:39] You'll have a total of three
[1:14:39] minutes.
[1:14:40] Okay.
[1:14:40] Thank you so much.
[1:14:45] Okay, so 15.
[1:14:45] Yes.
[1:14:46] This is a very important item.
[1:14:46] Yes.
[1:14:51] To be to know to collect for a
[1:14:52] comprehensive contract and
[1:14:56] labor compliance software
[1:14:56] solution support.
[1:14:57] This is the administration and
[1:15:04] enforcement functions of
[1:15:05] the llc the play and the you'll
[1:15:08] see programs Wonderful
[1:15:09] wonderful important item a
[1:15:15] question in today's I.T world
[1:15:15] is ten years too long 51 yes to
[1:15:21] Brown in Caldwell the eeoc
[1:15:22] report 59 employees 11
[1:15:27] subcontractors a question what
[1:15:28] about under-representation in
[1:15:34] the subcontractors do we follow
[1:15:34] that workforce No copy of
[1:15:35] the workforce report from Brown
[1:15:39] and Caldwell It's what
[1:15:40] the county This is one reason
[1:15:44] why item 50 is so crucial 100
[1:15:45] Yes to the appointments for
[1:15:46] the homeless Whether you
[1:15:50] accounted a sense oversight
[1:15:50] committee.
[1:15:51] Thank you.
[1:15:51] Thank you Volunteers for years
[1:15:56] seems appropriate length of
[1:15:57] service revenue from
[1:15:58] the measure security Please
[1:16:03] consider what John Brady said
[1:16:04] this morning.
[1:16:04] I think that's a good thing to
[1:16:09] look at and 5a1 yes and thank
[1:16:10] you to council member Ken Peel
[1:16:15] and all others involve on
[1:16:16] the e-bike prohibition for
[1:16:16] under 12 one people This makes
[1:16:21] sense.
[1:16:22] We need to guide our young
[1:16:23] people and this is very
[1:16:23] important for their safety.
[1:16:28] So a question on that Could
[1:16:28] the lack of resources affect
[1:16:29] enforcement of it?
[1:16:34] 5 or 3 yes.
[1:16:35] But will three on the fence
[1:16:39] with Whitman contract for
[1:16:39] ambulance building and
[1:16:40] collection services?
[1:16:41] Is there a program to help low
[1:16:45] income people with
[1:16:45] the payments?
[1:16:50] I'm sorry back to 502 Yes to
[1:16:51] the First Amendment to all
[1:16:52] involved cdb grant funds and
[1:16:56] thank you This hub system
[1:16:57] timeline has been bumped for
[1:16:57] meeting deadlines.
[1:17:03] Please be careful on that
[1:17:03] involves equity and underserved
[1:17:04] communities.
[1:17:08] It's a good thing.
[1:17:09] So thank you to the Economic
[1:17:14] Development Department.
[1:17:15] So this is chock full of good
[1:17:16] stuff and appreciate your work
[1:17:16] on this letter.
[1:17:19] Well thank you.
[1:17:20] Our next speaker is Katherine
[1:17:24] Douglas.
[1:17:25] >> Please state which item or
[1:17:26] items you would like to speak
[1:17:31] to Safety.
[1:17:31] Okay.
[1:17:32] You'll have one minute.
[1:17:32] Please proceed.
[1:17:36] I strongly support this common
[1:17:37] sense e-bike safety proposal
[1:17:37] unanimously approved by
[1:17:38] the Public Safety Committee.
[1:17:43] There's an urgent need for
[1:17:43] practical measures that will
[1:17:44] enhance public safety and help
[1:17:45] prevent avoidable injuries.
[1:17:49] Setting a minimum age of 12 for
[1:17:50] Class one and Class two e-bike
[1:17:51] riders prohibiting passengers
[1:17:55] unless a bike is specifically
[1:17:55] designed with a permanent
[1:17:56] second seat.
[1:18:01] These are simple common sense
[1:18:01] safety measures.
[1:18:02] These safeguards will protect
[1:18:02] young riders, reduce dangerous
[1:18:06] riding behaviors, make our
[1:18:07] streets safer for everyone.
[1:18:08] As as e-bike usage continues to
[1:18:13] grow, kids need these
[1:18:14] protections now more than ever
[1:18:14] to ensure they can ride safely
[1:18:19] and responsibly while
[1:18:19] protecting those around them.
[1:18:20] I urge you to support
[1:18:24] Councilmember Campos proposal
[1:18:25] and swiftly implement these
[1:18:25] much needed safety
[1:18:25] improvements.
[1:18:30] Thank you very much.
[1:18:31] >> Thank you.
[1:18:31] That does conclude public
[1:18:32] comment on the consent agenda.
[1:18:36] All right.
[1:18:37] Thank you.
[1:18:37] Deputy Clerk turned over to
[1:18:38] council members Questions,
[1:18:39] comments Entertain a motion and
[1:18:39] we will start with council
[1:18:42] member Campbell.
[1:18:43] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:18:43] Thank you to members of
[1:18:44] the public for their
[1:18:44] participation today I will move
[1:18:47] approval of the consent agenda
[1:18:48] and speak briefly to item 5a1
[1:18:53] The regulations on e-bikes.
[1:18:54] This ordinance comes down to
[1:18:54] one simple question for me and
[1:18:55] my constituents If we know
[1:18:59] children are being seriously
[1:19:00] injured on e-bikes and we have
[1:19:00] the legal authority to act, why
[1:19:04] wouldn't we?
[1:19:04] As a parent of two young
[1:19:05] children, a former fifth grade
[1:19:06] teacher as well?
[1:19:06] Child safety is always at
[1:19:09] the top of my mind and I've
[1:19:09] seen the data.
[1:19:10] I've spoken with the families.
[1:19:11] I've spoken to the doctors.
[1:19:11] I've heard from health care
[1:19:15] professionals and educators In
[1:19:16] the message is clear They want
[1:19:16] to see us do more to protect
[1:19:17] our children.
[1:19:20] Today's e-bikes are not
[1:19:21] the bicycles many of us grew up
[1:19:21] writing.
[1:19:22] They travel farther and faster
[1:19:26] often in traffic alongside cars
[1:19:26] And yet many young writers
[1:19:27] haven't received the training
[1:19:28] on the rules of the road or
[1:19:32] safe riding practices.
[1:19:33] So this ordinance uses
[1:19:36] the authority provided by ab
[1:19:37] 2234 to establish common sense
[1:19:37] guardrails focused on education
[1:19:41] and accountability and safety.
[1:19:42] The goal is not to punish
[1:19:43] anyone particularly children.
[1:19:47] The goal is to prevent injuries
[1:19:48] before they happen.
[1:19:49] I want to particularly thank
[1:19:49] Assembly member Tasha Burner
[1:19:52] for authoring ab 2234 and
[1:19:53] Senator Catherine Blake Speer
[1:19:53] whose upcoming legislation will
[1:19:57] put more responsibility on
[1:19:57] manufacturers.
[1:19:58] And that has my full support as
[1:19:58] well.
[1:20:03] E-bikes are and can be a great
[1:20:04] transportation option.
[1:20:08] But safety cannot be optional.
[1:20:08] So when children are being
[1:20:09] seriously injured and other
[1:20:10] pedestrians walking around or
[1:20:13] being injured doing nothing
[1:20:13] can't be an option.
[1:20:14] Our state legislature allows us
[1:20:18] allows for this ordinance to be
[1:20:19] a tool to protect children and
[1:20:19] protect everyone really and
[1:20:23] collect evidence for several
[1:20:24] years to help shape policy into
[1:20:25] the future.
[1:20:25] This ordinance is reasonable.
[1:20:29] It's balanced and the necessary
[1:20:29] step to protect young riders,
[1:20:30] their families and everyone who
[1:20:31] shares our roads and sidewalks.
[1:20:35] So with that I respectfully ask
[1:20:36] support of the Council.
[1:20:36] And that concludes my motion.
[1:20:37] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[1:20:37] Thank you.
[1:20:40] Council Member Kennedy So we
[1:20:41] have a motion to move
[1:20:42] the consent items not seen in
[1:20:44] the light.
[1:20:45] I'll second it and I will thank
[1:20:45] you Council Member for bringing
[1:20:49] the item forward and I will
[1:20:50] join you in expressing
[1:20:56] the frustration for the good
[1:20:57] work that Senator Blake's mayor
[1:20:58] and Assembly member Barnard
[1:20:58] have been trying to have common
[1:21:00] sense legislation and having a
[1:21:01] tough time up in Sacramento but
[1:21:02] at least we have this.
[1:21:06] Thank you for taking that
[1:21:06] opportunity for the pilot
[1:21:07] program And I thank you to
[1:21:07] the city attorney for
[1:21:10] clarifying that this will have
[1:21:11] the same term of whatever of
[1:21:12] the state legislation is going
[1:21:17] forward.
[1:21:18] So we have a motion by Council
[1:21:18] member Campi and a second by
[1:21:20] myself to move the consent
[1:21:21] items will go next to council
[1:21:22] member Ella Rivera.
[1:21:25] >> Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[1:21:26] I will first be asking some
[1:21:31] questions about item 100
[1:21:32] the appointments to
[1:21:32] the homeless revenue account
[1:21:36] Citizen Oversight Committee.
[1:21:37] This has nothing to do with it
[1:21:42] Specific resumes or
[1:21:42] qualifications of the folks who
[1:21:47] are being nominated today.
[1:21:47] But I do think that it's
[1:21:48] incredibly important that there
[1:21:52] eventually be folks who have
[1:21:53] lived experience on that
[1:21:56] committee That's especially
[1:21:56] important since as was
[1:22:01] mentioned in public comment
[1:22:02] the service providers will
[1:22:02] almost certainly be excluded
[1:22:06] from participating.
[1:22:11] That experience of having been
[1:22:12] homeless tried to navigate
[1:22:17] the system seeing what works
[1:22:18] and what doesn't work from
[1:22:18] various perspectives is
[1:22:22] incredibly important.
[1:22:22] We know that when the city has
[1:22:23] done our best work on
[1:22:26] homelessness it has been very
[1:22:27] much guided by people with that
[1:22:31] experience at the table not as
[1:22:31] a as an afterthought, not as
[1:22:36] window dressing but as you know
[1:22:37] in a meaningful way that
[1:22:37] actually helps inform
[1:22:38] the direction that is being
[1:22:40] being headed.
[1:22:41] So I am happy to support
[1:22:42] the appointments of the folks
[1:22:45] who are nominated today.
[1:22:46] I will not be supporting any
[1:22:46] additional appointments to this
[1:22:50] committee until there are until
[1:22:51] at least someone with lived
[1:22:55] experience is appointed after
[1:22:55] this.
[1:22:56] I just want to be transparent
[1:22:57] about that because I do think
[1:23:00] it's it's critical to ensure
[1:23:00] that the intended effect of
[1:23:04] this committee lands in the way
[1:23:05] that it's supposed to land in
[1:23:09] terms of impact item as 5 or 1
[1:23:10] appreciate the work that's been
[1:23:14] done here.
[1:23:15] The one thing that I will flag
[1:23:19] is wanting to be sure that we
[1:23:22] are tracking what
[1:23:23] the enforcement of this
[1:23:24] ordinance looks like Once that
[1:23:28] does go into effect there are
[1:23:28] already gross
[1:23:33] disproportionality in terms of
[1:23:33] enforcement of the variety of
[1:23:34] laws in the city.
[1:23:40] Young people experience those
[1:23:44] disproportionate enforcements
[1:23:45] in a significant way.
[1:23:46] The school to prison pipeline
[1:23:49] is real.
[1:23:50] The youth to prison pipeline is
[1:23:55] real And I want to be sure that
[1:23:59] this ordinance is being
[1:24:00] enforced with the intended
[1:24:01] effect of protecting young
[1:24:04] people from harm not as a
[1:24:09] pretext to additional contacts
[1:24:10] with law from law enforcement
[1:24:10] to young people especially
[1:24:14] young people of color.
[1:24:15] I do I, I will be very closely
[1:24:18] looking to see that black and
[1:24:19] brown youth are not being
[1:24:20] disproportionately targeted for
[1:24:24] enforcement of this law.
[1:24:25] So understand the desired
[1:24:25] effect.
[1:24:29] I too have been very concerned
[1:24:33] at times when I've seen young
[1:24:33] folks bombing down hills on
[1:24:38] e-bikes and all of that All
[1:24:43] that can go wrong there and
[1:24:44] again just want to be sure that
[1:24:47] we're not opening the door to
[1:24:48] disproportionate and
[1:24:48] unnecessary interactions
[1:24:57] between young folks and the in
[1:24:57] law enforcement or the justice
[1:24:58] system.
[1:24:59] And I'll just play out one
[1:25:02] example where we could see this
[1:25:05] happening where a young person
[1:25:06] 13 or 14 years old, maybe 15,
[1:25:10] 16 or 17 depending on how
[1:25:11] creative folks want to be in
[1:25:16] terms of of enforcing this or
[1:25:16] attempting to enforce this law
[1:25:21] gets stopped with the pretext
[1:25:21] of checking to make sure that
[1:25:22] the person is of
[1:25:25] the appropriate age to be
[1:25:26] riding a class one or class two
[1:25:30] e-bike and that initiates an
[1:25:30] unnecessary contact between
[1:25:35] that young person and
[1:25:35] the system.
[1:25:36] If that person is not carrying
[1:25:39] id you can kind of see it going
[1:25:40] from there in terms of what
[1:25:44] that contact can look like And
[1:25:44] again thinking about my
[1:25:45] constituents, the young folks
[1:25:46] that I worked with over
[1:25:49] the years who have have had
[1:25:53] negative experiences that very
[1:25:54] rarely involve them actually
[1:25:57] causing harm but has
[1:26:02] permanently clouded their their
[1:26:03] perception of the city, their
[1:26:07] perception of public safety.
[1:26:08] I want to make sure that this
[1:26:12] doesn't open the door for that
[1:26:12] .
[1:26:13] And then lastly just want to
[1:26:13] make sure that we continue to
[1:26:17] to encourage folks to to ride
[1:26:18] when possible that we encourage
[1:26:18] folks to develop those habits
[1:26:21] rather than discourage that.
[1:26:22] That's important to me as well.
[1:26:23] So I appreciate the intended
[1:26:23] effect.
[1:26:27] I will support the motion in
[1:26:28] front of us but we'll be
[1:26:28] looking closely to make sure
[1:26:31] that it's not being enforced in
[1:26:32] a disproportionate way.
[1:26:32] Thank you.
[1:26:33] Council PRESIDENT All right.
[1:26:34] Thank you, Council Member de La
[1:26:34] Rivera.
[1:26:36] We'll go next to Council member
[1:26:37] Foster Yes, thank you.
[1:26:37] >> Council PRESIDENT.
[1:26:41] i just would like to register I
[1:26:42] will be supporting the consent
[1:26:45] agenda but I would like to
[1:26:46] register a no vote for item
[1:26:51] number 50.
[1:26:52] The new contract with Biji
[1:26:56] would be to g Now again we are
[1:27:00] ending a contract with a
[1:27:00] certified black women owned
[1:27:05] woman owned business and we are
[1:27:05] entering into a new agreement
[1:27:09] with a non certified firm at
[1:27:09] double the cost and that is
[1:27:13] very problematic for me.
[1:27:14] So I will be registering a no
[1:27:15] vote.
[1:27:15] All right.
[1:27:19] Thank you, Councilmember Foster
[1:27:19] .
[1:27:20] We'll go back to council member
[1:27:21] Thank you, Council PRESIDENT.
[1:27:21] I appreciate it.
[1:27:23] Councilmember Eloy Rivera's
[1:27:24] points are completely spot on
[1:27:28] on the historical and societal
[1:27:29] effects that he's talking
[1:27:29] about.
[1:27:32] I just want to point out about
[1:27:32] 20 to 34 does account for
[1:27:33] collection of the data that
[1:27:34] he's pointing out that are
[1:27:36] important.
[1:27:37] Subsection d of that state law
[1:27:38] says that the when we submit
[1:27:41] the data to the state to
[1:27:42] the state legislature as a
[1:27:42] result of this pilot program,
[1:27:46] it does include how many times
[1:27:47] a person is stopped while under
[1:27:50] the age of 12 but then where
[1:27:51] they an officer thought they
[1:27:55] were under the age of 12 but
[1:27:55] was in fact over the age limit.
[1:27:56] The officer does have to take
[1:27:59] down information about
[1:28:00] perceived race, ethnicity,
[1:28:01] gender and approximate age of
[1:28:04] the person stopped and provided
[1:28:05] that the identification of
[1:28:06] these characteristics is solely
[1:28:06] based on the observation or
[1:28:07] perception of the police
[1:28:09] officer who initiated
[1:28:10] the traffic stop.
[1:28:10] So I appreciate his points on
[1:28:14] that And note that the state
[1:28:14] legislature does require us to
[1:28:15] collect and submit that
[1:28:19] information to protect against
[1:28:19] the issues he brought up.
[1:28:20] So thank you for those points.
[1:28:20] All right.
[1:28:24] Thank you, sir.
[1:28:25] Not seeing anyone else in
[1:28:25] the lights.
[1:28:26] We have a motion by
[1:28:27] Councilmember Campos second by
[1:28:27] myself.
[1:28:28] Deputy Clerk Please call
[1:28:28] the roll.
[1:28:29] I have set up the voting system
[1:28:30] .
[1:28:44] Please cast your vote Count
[1:28:45] Councilmember Woodburn, can we
[1:28:46] get a voice vote from you as
[1:28:46] well?
[1:28:47] Yes, thank you.
[1:28:49] The item passes unanimously
[1:28:50] with district for a casting a
[1:28:53] no vote on item number 50 and
[1:28:57] districts one and districts
[1:28:58] five and District two and
[1:28:58] District five absent.
[1:29:01] Thank you Council PRESIDENT.
[1:29:02] >> Stephanie's messed up my
[1:29:06] head with that we have any
[1:29:07] comments by mayors office
[1:29:10] council member City attorney
[1:29:11] Independent Budget analyst.
[1:29:15] City Clerk The only comment I
[1:29:16] have to follow up on
[1:29:17] Councilmember Eloy Rivera's
[1:29:19] comments regarding item 101 of
[1:29:20] the appointees does have lived
[1:29:21] experience but I completely
[1:29:24] understand your concern and
[1:29:25] your request that for
[1:29:25] the remaining three
[1:29:26] appointments to keep that top
[1:29:30] of mind so completely.
[1:29:30] All right.
[1:29:31] Thank you for that input Kota
[1:29:34] not seeing anybody else we will
[1:29:35] now take up non agenda public
[1:29:39] comment.
[1:29:40] Council members respect and
[1:29:40] appreciate the public's input
[1:29:41] and are fully committed to
[1:29:43] protecting every participant's
[1:29:44] free speech rights at council
[1:29:44] and committee meetings.
[1:29:48] Deputy Clerk Please proceed
[1:29:48] with public comment.
[1:29:49] Thank you.
[1:29:52] Council PRESIDENT Per Rule 2.7
[1:29:53] on Agenda Public comment is an
[1:29:53] opportunity for members of
[1:29:57] the public to comment on items
[1:29:58] that are not on the agenda but
[1:29:58] within the subject matter
[1:29:58] jurisdiction of the City
[1:30:01] Council.
[1:30:02] Each speaker will have two
[1:30:02] minutes.
[1:30:05] Please note if there are eight
[1:30:05] or more speakers on a single
[1:30:06] topic the maximum time for
[1:30:09] the topic will be 16 minutes.
[1:30:10] If you are in the committee
[1:30:10] room please submit your speaker
[1:30:14] slip.
[1:30:15] If you are joining us virtually
[1:30:15] please raise your hand to speak
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[1:30:24] We will begin with in person
[1:30:28] comment Maximillian Schmitt
[1:30:29] Please come forward.
[1:30:29] You'll have two minutes to
[1:30:38] speak.
[1:30:38] Communist countries across
[1:30:42] the world are eliminating
[1:30:43] dissidents and killing off
[1:30:47] anyone who opposes them and how
[1:30:48] they do this Is there actually
[1:30:52] people What if I told you that
[1:30:53] if someone does a hermetic
[1:30:57] chant in a masonic lodge they
[1:30:57] have the ability to look
[1:30:58] through your eyes and read your
[1:30:59] mind and access your
[1:31:01] consciousness completely.
[1:31:02] And what's going on is
[1:31:03] communist countries.
[1:31:06] If someone's a dissident they
[1:31:07] will actually surround
[1:31:08] the dissident and they will
[1:31:12] speak gibberish half gibberish
[1:31:13] half on like patronizing their
[1:31:16] private thoughts to drive them
[1:31:17] mentally ill to on suicide or
[1:31:21] mental illness or drug
[1:31:21] addiction.
[1:31:22] And it's it's extremely cruel
[1:31:22] and unusual.
[1:31:23] What's the equivalent of
[1:31:25] wearing headphones speaking
[1:31:26] gibberish or patronizing your
[1:31:30] private thoughts nonstop and
[1:31:31] that those communist tactics to
[1:31:31] remove dissidents has sadly
[1:31:35] spilled over into San Diego
[1:31:36] where I'm someone who's done a
[1:31:41] lot of grassroots on my own on
[1:31:42] my own free time I took it upon
[1:31:46] myself to go to the store and
[1:31:47] get a Trump flag and wave a
[1:31:50] Trump flag on the corner.
[1:31:51] That's what I like to do for
[1:31:54] fun And after that happened I
[1:31:55] started to get surrounded by
[1:31:59] people telepathic Freemasons
[1:32:00] speaking gibberish nonstop,
[1:32:04] driving me insane, driving me
[1:32:05] crazy And I wanted to say
[1:32:06] the gop doesn't do that.
[1:32:09] We don't target people who
[1:32:10] don't like the gop and try to
[1:32:14] drive them crazy and kill them
[1:32:14] with driving them crazy
[1:32:15] gibberish.
[1:32:19] That's what communists do and
[1:32:19] that's what liberals do.
[1:32:20] And I want to make it clear
[1:32:23] that liberals do not care about
[1:32:23] human rights.
[1:32:24] They're supposed to be like
[1:32:25] the party that cares about
[1:32:28] human rights, cares about any
[1:32:32] hate against homosexuals, cares
[1:32:33] about illegal immigrants.
[1:32:33] However they're using communist
[1:32:38] tactics to kill people who
[1:32:38] don't like them.
[1:32:39] >> So liberals aren't the party
[1:32:39] of human rights.
[1:32:42] They're phonies.
[1:32:42] Thank you.
[1:32:43] That does conclude your time.
[1:32:51] Next up is allegedly Andre
[1:32:52] lived to experience should be a
[1:32:57] requirement not for that but
[1:32:57] whatever I mean because I feel
[1:32:58] like you're just saying that
[1:33:01] you're going to do that and
[1:33:02] role I would actually say that
[1:33:06] collecting that guilt data on
[1:33:07] children under 12 could be very
[1:33:07] concerning with the things that
[1:33:11] happen with children and data
[1:33:12] collection with your guys's
[1:33:16] cannabis item yesterday.
[1:33:17] I'm wondering if you know that
[1:33:17] in DECEMBER that it got
[1:33:21] reclassified as a schedule
[1:33:22] three like ketamine and so it's
[1:33:22] going to have to be
[1:33:26] pharmaceutical grade and have
[1:33:27] like fda approved manufacturing
[1:33:31] and all of these things.
[1:33:31] So as you're bringing in these
[1:33:32] requirements I mean the goal is
[1:33:33] to like get the cannabis
[1:33:35] industry out of here.
[1:33:36] I mean it's just going to go
[1:33:37] back to back to the black
[1:33:41] market but it's going to put
[1:33:41] dispensaries out of business.
[1:33:42] So as you're talking about
[1:33:43] deliveries here and there, you
[1:33:46] know, reclassifying this again,
[1:33:46] that's why it's like back and
[1:33:47] forth.
[1:33:47] I mean it's like a roller
[1:33:50] coaster ride.
[1:33:51] How do you keep up with that?
[1:33:52] But you should think about that
[1:33:53] as you're bringing in
[1:33:55] enforcement and going back to
[1:33:56] Andrea Ebbing it's very
[1:34:00] concerning to know that they
[1:34:00] have deemed her incompetent
[1:34:05] because she's not incompetent
[1:34:05] and a psychological evaluation
[1:34:10] The evaluator said she was
[1:34:10] competent and then somebody
[1:34:11] from the county like a social
[1:34:12] worker came in and started
[1:34:15] asking her political questions.
[1:34:15] And so if regardless of that,
[1:34:19] the judge has the deciding
[1:34:20] factor in a pc 1368 So
[1:34:24] the problem is is that this is
[1:34:25] going to stall the proceedings
[1:34:26] and she could potentially go
[1:34:29] into a mental facility and be
[1:34:30] drugged up And this is a way to
[1:34:31] silence people and it's just
[1:34:34] really sad to know that she has
[1:34:35] been fighting for her children
[1:34:38] fighting to report crimes that
[1:34:39] have happened against her and
[1:34:40] this is what takes place.
[1:34:40] And her attorney prior to
[1:34:44] saying that she was incompetent
[1:34:44] like a few weeks prior had
[1:34:49] filed a dismissal of charges
[1:34:49] because the arrest was
[1:34:50] unlawful.
[1:34:53] So there is a huge problem here
[1:34:54] that they have now deemed her
[1:34:54] incompetent when all
[1:34:55] the charges could be.
[1:34:58] >> That does conclude your time
[1:34:59] .
[1:35:00] Next up is Lay brother Stephen
[1:35:04] g.
[1:35:04] Said love.
[1:35:05] Please come forward to
[1:35:06] the microphone.
[1:35:11] You'll have two minutes.
[1:35:11] I understand you have some
[1:35:13] media you'd like to project if
[1:35:23] possible.
[1:35:28] Good afternoon San Diego City
[1:35:29] Council and Citizens I am Lee
[1:35:29] Brother Steven Gerrard should
[1:35:34] love ski I'd like to open up
[1:35:34] with holy Scripture because
[1:35:35] that's a good thing to do.
[1:35:38] I think And I'm going to open
[1:35:41] up to Proverbs ten in honor of
[1:35:46] we've just celebrated Father's
[1:35:47] Day Mother's Day, the Father's
[1:35:48] Day time frame, the proverbs of
[1:35:52] Solomon a wise son make of
[1:35:53] the glad father but a foolish
[1:35:53] son is the heaviness of his
[1:35:56] mother treasures of wickedness,
[1:36:01] profit nothing but
[1:36:02] righteousness delivers from
[1:36:02] death.
[1:36:07] The Lord will not suffer
[1:36:07] the soul of the righteous
[1:36:11] the famished But he cast away
[1:36:11] the substance of the wicked.
[1:36:15] He become a poor that delyth
[1:36:16] with a slack hand but the hand
[1:36:21] of the diligent make it through
[1:36:21] rich he that gather it And
[1:36:26] summer is a wise son but he
[1:36:27] that sleep in harvest is a son
[1:36:30] that cause of the shame and
[1:36:31] finally blessings are upon
[1:36:35] the head of the just but
[1:36:35] violence covers the mouth of
[1:36:40] the wicked to I delivered all
[1:36:40] of you a wonderful Bible
[1:36:45] bookmark I travel the country
[1:36:45] and I have spoken at Standing
[1:36:49] Eagle in the past amplifying
[1:36:49] new usa preborn personhood
[1:36:53] cities since I am a pro-life
[1:36:54] speaker What I wanted to
[1:36:58] display before you is that I
[1:36:59] attended the California MARCH
[1:37:00] for Life on MARCH 16th of this
[1:37:04] year in Sacramento and
[1:37:04] the document up there shows
[1:37:08] that about 4000 citizen sons
[1:37:09] attended the wonderful MARCH
[1:37:12] for For Life because we are
[1:37:13] marching for the sanctity of
[1:37:13] life.
[1:37:17] We all here in council chambers
[1:37:18] started off our journey of life
[1:37:18] in our mother's.
[1:37:22] Fatherhood starts in
[1:37:23] the mother's.
[1:37:23] Motherhood starts in
[1:37:24] the mother's.
[1:37:28] Childhood starts in the mother.
[1:37:29] Thank you.
[1:37:29] That does conclude your time.
[1:37:30] Thank you And I'll continue to
[1:37:32] update you on the new
[1:37:33] possibilities opportunities.
[1:37:33] Thank you.
[1:37:37] Next speaker is Bob Kozinski My
[1:37:38] video.
[1:37:51] Okay we'll bring the video up
[1:37:51] Bob Kozinski here.
[1:37:52] >> a week ago today I was hang
[1:37:53] gliding at Dockweiler State
[1:37:56] Beach in Los Angeles under
[1:37:57] the Dockweiler waiver that has
[1:38:00] been in place since 2017
[1:38:00] the public has been able to
[1:38:01] hang glider at Dockweiler Beach
[1:38:04] for nearly ten years under that
[1:38:05] waiver a decade ago however,
[1:38:09] hang gliding at Dockweiler was
[1:38:10] not allowed by the county of
[1:38:11] Los Angeles without use by
[1:38:11] membership.
[1:38:14] Fortunately that all changed
[1:38:15] due to a sequence of events
[1:38:16] that started right here in San
[1:38:19] Diego On JULY 24th, 2011.
[1:38:19] A female student named Shannon
[1:38:24] Hamby was taking lessons at
[1:38:24] Tori through the city's
[1:38:25] concessionaire.
[1:38:26] She was under radio supervision
[1:38:29] when she was flown directly
[1:38:29] into the path of another
[1:38:29] student.
[1:38:30] She crashed and was badly
[1:38:34] injured.
[1:38:34] I was contacted by Shannon's
[1:38:35] lawyer and asked to testify as
[1:38:38] an expert witness and I did.
[1:38:39] My testimony in SEPTEMBER of
[1:38:43] 2014 was solid and the case was
[1:38:43] quickly settled in Shannon's
[1:38:44] favor for an undisclosed
[1:38:44] amount.
[1:38:48] Uber ended up losing their
[1:38:48] insurance coverage by November
[1:38:49] of 2014.
[1:38:53] I was retaliated against by
[1:38:54] your concessionaire who
[1:38:54] conspired with you spend
[1:38:57] the spring of 2015 to have me
[1:38:58] expelled for my testimony which
[1:39:02] ended my ability to fly at all
[1:39:02] use for sites including Torrey
[1:39:03] Pines and Dockweiler.
[1:39:06] In early 2017 we met with newly
[1:39:07] elected Barbara Bree for help
[1:39:11] Barbara Bree suggested a flight
[1:39:12] waiver to solve the problem but
[1:39:15] she never followed through.
[1:39:16] Joel Foulston I also spoke to
[1:39:17] the Los Angeles County Board of
[1:39:20] Supervisors While Barbara Bree
[1:39:21] did nothing here in San Diego,
[1:39:25] Los Angeles Supervisor Janice
[1:39:25] Hahn stepped up and actually
[1:39:26] instituted a waiver.
[1:39:30] The first Dockweiler waivers
[1:39:30] were issued to Joe Foust, Frank
[1:39:34] Culver and myself on JULY 26th,
[1:39:34] 2017 and we have flown under
[1:39:39] those waivers without incident
[1:39:39] .
[1:39:40] Ever since Barbara Barrie
[1:39:41] dodged the issue for the rest
[1:39:44] of her term until her failed
[1:39:44] mayoral bid in 2020.
[1:39:45] Joe LaCava has followed her
[1:39:49] lead throughout his entire term
[1:39:50] reactivate the Torrey Pines
[1:39:50] City Park Advisory Board and
[1:39:54] institute a Torrey Pines flight
[1:39:55] waiver now.
[1:39:55] >> Thank you, Tom.
[1:39:57] Thank you.
[1:40:07] Next speaker is Anthony Ralphs
[1:40:12] Good.
[1:40:13] Good afternoon City Council.
[1:40:13] Good afternoon City Council.
[1:40:17] I'm sure you're probably
[1:40:18] wondering what the flowers are
[1:40:18] for.
[1:40:19] The flowers are from Dee Flock,
[1:40:22] San Diego and they are to all
[1:40:23] of our city council members who
[1:40:23] voted against Flock and who
[1:40:27] respect their constituencies
[1:40:28] privacy rights.
[1:40:28] And I actually got some.
[1:40:31] I tried to find some blue
[1:40:32] irises since they're
[1:40:32] the official flower of
[1:40:33] the city.
[1:40:36] I wasn't able to find any But I
[1:40:37] did get these irises that
[1:40:37] really resemble the blue irises
[1:40:41] And I think that they're really
[1:40:42] pretty.
[1:40:42] I wanted to give these two are
[1:40:46] independent budget analysts to
[1:40:46] Charles Modica because he
[1:40:51] advised the city council to cut
[1:40:51] flock from the mayor's budget.
[1:40:52] And because he's
[1:40:56] the independent budget analyst,
[1:40:56] we should be listening to him.
[1:40:57] We should be respecting
[1:41:00] the financial input that he
[1:41:01] gives our city and the fact
[1:41:01] that we are not and the fact
[1:41:02] that we are disrespecting our
[1:41:05] constituent his privacy and
[1:41:06] that we are giving an already
[1:41:09] overbloated police budget even
[1:41:10] more money and even more
[1:41:11] surveillance technology to use
[1:41:11] against us is extremely
[1:41:15] concerning.
[1:41:16] In this last week I saw a
[1:41:20] report that was detailing 17
[1:41:20] cases of police stalking their
[1:41:25] former ex-girlfriends using
[1:41:25] Floc a lpr technology.
[1:41:30] Just yesterday there was a
[1:41:31] shooting and it was not stopped
[1:41:35] due to Floc a lpr technology.
[1:41:36] That's the second time that
[1:41:36] Floc has failed in the last
[1:41:37] month.
[1:41:40] If I were to fail at my job
[1:41:40] like that in significant
[1:41:44] instances where I was expected
[1:41:45] to give a performance and I
[1:41:45] didn't deliver I would be
[1:41:49] immediately fired.
[1:41:50] I don't understand why as dpd
[1:41:54] continues to be shown
[1:41:55] the leniency that they've been
[1:41:55] shown and I'm not sure how
[1:41:56] we're going to hold them
[1:41:59] accountable when we have $42
[1:42:00] million in the public liability
[1:42:04] fund that they've blown through
[1:42:05] and all of the lawsuits that
[1:42:10] they've cost the city and we're
[1:42:10] not done paying those.
[1:42:11] I would like to see this
[1:42:11] council focus on police
[1:42:14] accountability.
[1:42:15] >> Thank you.
[1:42:16] That does conclude your time
[1:42:16] And our city clerk staff can
[1:42:19] help distribute the flowers.
[1:42:20] That does conclude in-person
[1:42:20] public comment.
[1:42:24] I've started the five minute
[1:42:25] timer.
[1:42:25] In the committee room we will
[1:42:29] now turn to the virtual queue
[1:42:30] in which there are currently
[1:42:30] ten participants requesting to
[1:42:35] speak.
[1:42:35] We will go first to Blair
[1:42:36] Beekman.
[1:42:39] Please begin your comments.
[1:42:39] All right.
[1:42:44] Thank you First for me to go
[1:42:45] first myself.
[1:42:47] But first as I am also really
[1:42:48] trying I think we can address
[1:42:53] our issues in new ways.
[1:42:53] I'm hoping that there is simply
[1:42:56] a can I feel there's
[1:42:57] the continuing growing
[1:42:58] political will in the past year
[1:42:58] in San Diego and across
[1:43:02] the country to no longer do
[1:43:03] business with Fox as block
[1:43:03] maybe developing its ideas its
[1:43:06] data within the context of
[1:43:07] supporting international
[1:43:07] policies.
[1:43:08] The work I have been describing
[1:43:12] for months now How about
[1:43:13] the city of Oakland County of
[1:43:13] Alameda are creating a process
[1:43:17] of full community input best
[1:43:17] practices to leapfrog for a new
[1:43:21] better principles approach
[1:43:22] under this is simply a good
[1:43:23] model San Diego can refer to at
[1:43:28] this time a good beginning one
[1:43:36] I simply should be continuing
[1:43:36] community dialog and
[1:43:37] conversations now formerly
[1:43:38] leader Carpenter Fox and to
[1:43:39] look for a better principal
[1:43:42] vendor or do we simply give up
[1:43:43] the vendor process altogether
[1:43:43] and work out new data
[1:43:48] collection arrangements
[1:43:49] securely So owners of new San
[1:43:49] Diego ale yards at the same
[1:43:55] time San Diego we can be
[1:43:56] working towards something of a
[1:43:56] yearly review process.
[1:44:00] I feel that can be important
[1:44:01] also at this time and how to
[1:44:02] create a small reduction of
[1:44:05] unnecessary or redundant
[1:44:06] surveillance technology used
[1:44:06] from local San Diego
[1:44:10] neighborhoods And at the same
[1:44:10] same time this will not take
[1:44:11] much away from the current use
[1:44:14] of surveillance technology
[1:44:14] within San Diego neighborhood
[1:44:19] Public safety concerns.
[1:44:19] I'm also hoping this can
[1:44:20] develop a consistent,
[1:44:21] responsible yearly reduction of
[1:44:24] unnecessary unnecessary
[1:44:24] surveillance tech while at
[1:44:29] the same time developing better
[1:44:30] principled, more responsible
[1:44:30] community tech use with clear
[1:44:34] oversight.
[1:44:35] I think it can work.
[1:44:35] Monica Montgomery Step two
[1:44:39] years ago Gail yours would be
[1:44:39] reduced.
[1:44:40] That was that was on her mind
[1:44:44] with new APIs and good luck we
[1:44:45] can talk more about your use of
[1:44:46] these accounts conclude your
[1:44:49] time Next speaker is Terry and
[1:44:49] Skelly.
[1:44:52] Please begin.
[1:44:58] Good afternoon San Diego City
[1:44:59] Council Chair McCarver My name
[1:45:00] is Terry and Skelly and I work
[1:45:03] with my planning group on good
[1:45:03] public health and safety
[1:45:04] policies in land use decisions.
[1:45:08] I spoke yesterday and support
[1:45:09] for item 2 or 2 regarding
[1:45:09] creating more comprehensive
[1:45:12] policies regarding popular
[1:45:12] rates.
[1:45:13] I truly appreciate the city's
[1:45:17] efforts to know who is selling
[1:45:17] pot in our cities and where
[1:45:18] the pot is coming from since it
[1:45:22] doesn't seem to have a physical
[1:45:22] location within the city.
[1:45:26] I was concerned that there were
[1:45:27] those yesterday He wanted to
[1:45:27] have a permit from other
[1:45:31] another jurisdiction and then
[1:45:31] wanted to deliver in San Diego
[1:45:32] but did not want to register
[1:45:36] for a permit to deliver in San
[1:45:36] Diego.
[1:45:37] That was a scary declaration
[1:45:41] and made me wonder about all
[1:45:41] those pot entrepreneurs who
[1:45:42] continuously tell us that they
[1:45:46] are providing a necessary
[1:45:46] service.
[1:45:47] However, they don't want to
[1:45:50] abide by the rules and register
[1:45:51] in the city of San Diego to
[1:45:55] deliver pot That makes
[1:45:56] the public wonder if the real
[1:45:56] motive behind selling pot is
[1:46:00] just money which has always
[1:46:01] been the motive behind selling
[1:46:01] drugs.
[1:46:05] So I especially appreciate
[1:46:06] the work of City Councilperson
[1:46:07] Camille and staff for creating
[1:46:10] a system of fines associated
[1:46:11] with enforcement against pot
[1:46:11] deliveries.
[1:46:15] Doing so illegally.
[1:46:16] I also appreciate the larger
[1:46:20] dialog regarding enforcement
[1:46:21] commitments for the police
[1:46:21] department and code
[1:46:22] enforcement.
[1:46:25] >> Thank you for hearing my
[1:46:25] issues this morning or
[1:46:26] afternoon.
[1:46:29] Thank you.
[1:46:30] Our next speaker is Barbara
[1:46:30] Gordon.
[1:46:34] Please begin.
[1:46:34] >> Thank you.
[1:46:38] As a public health educator I
[1:46:39] wanted to share with you
[1:46:40] the American Medical
[1:46:43] Association's recently adopted
[1:46:44] new policy calling for
[1:46:45] the prohibition of flavored
[1:46:48] cannabis vaping products in
[1:46:49] cannabis dispensaries, hemp
[1:46:53] product retailers and other
[1:46:53] retail outlets while also
[1:46:58] advocating for legislate
[1:46:58] changes.
[1:46:59] Their position reflects
[1:46:59] the organization's growing
[1:47:03] concern about public health
[1:47:04] risks associated with flavored
[1:47:04] vaping products and their
[1:47:08] appeal to adolescents and young
[1:47:09] adults, according to the ama.
[1:47:13] Flavors such as fruit candy
[1:47:13] menthol can make vaping
[1:47:17] products more attractive to
[1:47:18] youth, increasing
[1:47:18] the likelihood of initiation
[1:47:22] and long term substance use.
[1:47:22] The new policy extends to
[1:47:23] the ama's longstanding position
[1:47:27] reflect in a broader effort to
[1:47:28] reduce youth exposure to an
[1:47:32] inhaled psychoactive
[1:47:33] substances.
[1:47:33] The report says there is no
[1:47:37] public health justification for
[1:47:38] flavors that enhance the appeal
[1:47:42] of cannabis based products
[1:47:43] particularly when youth vaping
[1:47:47] remains a significant concern.
[1:47:48] Ama leaders leaders have
[1:47:52] emphasized that protecting
[1:47:52] young people from addiction and
[1:47:53] potential health harms should
[1:47:57] take precedence over
[1:47:58] the commercialization and
[1:47:58] availability.
[1:47:58] >> Thank you.
[1:48:02] That does conclude your time.
[1:48:06] Our next speaker is caller with
[1:48:06] last four digits 8700.
[1:48:10] Please begin.
[1:48:16] Thank you, Joyce And yet
[1:48:20] the beautiful tapestry the lens
[1:48:21] through which we look at and
[1:48:26] see life here's my lens.
[1:48:30] What if we are all pollinators
[1:48:31] in city government?
[1:48:32] After 20 years in my work as an
[1:48:36] activist I see a common thread
[1:48:36] through it all.
[1:48:40] We are all working to see what
[1:48:41] works best.
[1:48:45] We now know that bees are
[1:48:45] connected to a bigger picture
[1:48:46] that includes a mysterious
[1:48:50] miracle.
[1:48:51] Yes, the mysterious miracle is
[1:48:55] a bumpy yet something is
[1:48:55] working.
[1:49:00] We're still here.
[1:49:01] Life is still here.
[1:49:05] I woke up feeling different
[1:49:10] this morning about cgt, about
[1:49:14] public power, about fees,
[1:49:15] parking fees, budget abuse
[1:49:21] parks, libraries, even floor
[1:49:21] and so forth.
[1:49:25] We are doing something that
[1:49:25] the whole world is doing.
[1:49:26] We are doing what we are meant
[1:49:31] to do.
[1:49:31] We are fulfilling our role as
[1:49:35] pollinators of the great circle
[1:49:36] of life.
[1:49:40] In my opinion we are so lucky
[1:49:41] We are just happened to be here
[1:49:46] in San Diego.
[1:49:47] We are just so lucky and we are
[1:49:47] connected.
[1:49:52] I believe in that.
[1:49:53] i really do And I just I'm
[1:49:57] getting stronger and stronger
[1:49:57] about it through all these
[1:49:58] difficult days.
[1:50:02] It's all connected.
[1:50:02] I believe in that.
[1:50:07] So I hope you'll consider that
[1:50:07] too.
[1:50:08] And I'm sure you're there
[1:50:09] already on many levels.
[1:50:09] Maybe you're even the best of
[1:50:10] the best.
[1:50:13] Help us with our new vision if
[1:50:13] you are.
[1:50:14] So I believe in all of that and
[1:50:18] I believe in the beautiful
[1:50:19] tapestry.
[1:50:19] Love to all beauty.
[1:50:23] Great day.
[1:50:23] Thank you.
[1:50:24] Please know that the five
[1:50:27] minute timer has concluded with
[1:50:27] five speakers left in
[1:50:28] the queue.
[1:50:29] No other speakers will be taken
[1:50:29] at this time.
[1:50:30] Next up is John Elliott.
[1:50:36] Please begin.
[1:50:36] Good afternoon.
[1:50:37] Thank you, Council members.
[1:50:41] Thank you Johnny Lowe for
[1:50:42] discussing lived experience.
[1:50:43] The lived experience that was
[1:50:47] mentioned is not what we would
[1:50:47] define as lived experience
[1:50:48] which is somebody who has
[1:50:51] experienced homelessness within
[1:50:52] the last 5 to 10 years and is
[1:50:52] intimately involved in
[1:50:56] the homeless space as an
[1:50:56] advocate.
[1:50:57] I don't think that anybody here
[1:51:02] should consider experiencing
[1:51:02] somebody who MAY have
[1:51:03] experienced homelessness ten,
[1:51:07] 15, 20 years ago not even in
[1:51:07] the region iPad or here because
[1:51:12] things are different now.
[1:51:13] I also want to talk about Neil
[1:51:13] Goode.
[1:51:17] So it was not clear to any of
[1:51:18] us that when you voted to cut
[1:51:19] the funding for Neil Good that
[1:51:23] there would not be an option to
[1:51:23] do fundraising and maintain
[1:51:24] the operations and that
[1:51:28] the permit was being pulled at
[1:51:28] the end of the year.
[1:51:29] If that is the case that is
[1:51:29] outrageous.
[1:51:33] That means we traded critically
[1:51:34] needed resources for our most
[1:51:39] suffering people to fund floc
[1:51:39] and that is completely
[1:51:40] unacceptable.
[1:51:44] It was never made clear in any
[1:51:45] of your deliberations that
[1:51:45] the funding you were committing
[1:51:50] or committing was tied to a
[1:51:50] permanent closure by revocation
[1:51:56] of permit and no one including
[1:51:57] everybody in the community
[1:51:58] community Body Alliance was
[1:51:58] aware of that either.
[1:52:00] We would have addressed it
[1:52:01] differently when it comes to
[1:52:06] that issue.
[1:52:07] We need to be revisiting why
[1:52:08] exactly we are terminating
[1:52:12] the permit when there is an
[1:52:12] option and people are
[1:52:13] interested to fundraise
[1:52:13] the necessary funds to keep
[1:52:18] the facility open as is.
[1:52:24] And then finally it has come to
[1:52:24] our attention that if you do
[1:52:29] not have a solution for your
[1:52:30] fee voucher by the end of
[1:52:30] the year that you are going to
[1:52:35] be dropped have no priority and
[1:52:36] and be on your own finding
[1:52:36] housing And that too is not
[1:52:37] acceptable especially when
[1:52:43] the county failed all theirs.
[1:52:44] >> That does conclude your
[1:52:44] time.
[1:52:45] Our next speaker is Natalie
[1:52:45] Maskey.
[1:52:50] Please begin.
[1:52:50] Hi.
[1:52:51] i just want to give you an
[1:52:52] update on the letter that I
[1:52:55] received.
[1:52:57] I was on a phone call and I got
[1:52:57] interrupted.
[1:53:02] It basically states for word
[1:53:02] for word that when the San
[1:53:03] Diego Housing Commission stops
[1:53:08] paying the rent subsidy you
[1:53:08] will no longer be an chc
[1:53:09] participant.
[1:53:09] You will not need to do
[1:53:13] anything and you will no longer
[1:53:14] be a part of this program.
[1:53:20] I was informed that I would be
[1:53:21] on a waiting list for a project
[1:53:21] based voucher so it's unclear
[1:53:25] to me if that would still be
[1:53:26] the case.
[1:53:26] I have tried contacting I am in
[1:53:32] contact with Legal Aid which it
[1:53:32] tells me to do.
[1:53:38] There's urgency it seems with
[1:53:38] any of these entities surging
[1:53:43] up It still has not seemed to
[1:53:44] get back to me.
[1:53:45] I have contacted every single
[1:53:50] entity that I can to put me in
[1:53:50] front of somebody that I can
[1:53:56] relate to How wrong this is.
[1:53:56] It's extremely overwhelming
[1:54:02] going to these websites When I
[1:54:03] spoke last week or the week
[1:54:03] before a willing and able
[1:54:08] bodied person that has
[1:54:09] the ability to do certain tasks
[1:54:09] that is having a really hard
[1:54:14] time completing tasks when
[1:54:14] the other parties are
[1:54:15] participating back or there
[1:54:20] doesn't seem to be an urgency
[1:54:21] in what's happening.
[1:54:21] I'll give you an estimation on
[1:54:25] what NOVEMBER 30th will look
[1:54:26] like if nobody else gets
[1:54:31] housing there will be over 1600
[1:54:31] people.
[1:54:32] A lot of them with children
[1:54:37] that will be unhoused on that
[1:54:37] day.
[1:54:42] That is overwhelming to me just
[1:54:43] to even think about and with
[1:54:44] the cuts, where are these
[1:54:45] people going to go?
[1:54:52] Thank you.
[1:54:52] Thank you.
[1:54:53] Next up is Judy Strang.
[1:54:58] Please begin.
[1:54:58] >> Good afternoon.
[1:54:59] San Diego City Council.
[1:55:04] Thank you for the many comments
[1:55:05] we've heard so far.
[1:55:06] I wanted to share with you an
[1:55:07] article that came out from
[1:55:10] the Washington Post in
[1:55:11] association with the University
[1:55:11] of Colorado study regarding
[1:55:17] cannabis and brain surgery as
[1:55:23] Brain Awareness Month.
[1:55:24] I talked about that when we
[1:55:24] were talking about e-bikes
[1:55:25] because that's the injury you
[1:55:26] so often hear about.
[1:55:29] And traumatic brain injuries
[1:55:29] are horrific.
[1:55:30] Those of you who've had
[1:55:30] exposure to that with people
[1:55:31] can appreciate it.
[1:55:34] Anyway, the article from
[1:55:35] Washington Post is entitled
[1:55:35] Seven Unexpected Findings that
[1:55:40] Highlight Significant
[1:55:41] Vulnerabilities of Younger
[1:55:41] Individuals Related to
[1:55:42] Marijuana Use.
[1:55:46] I'm only going to share a
[1:55:47] couple that really struck me.
[1:55:48] First, I would like to share
[1:55:53] that because continues to
[1:55:53] surprise me that people don't
[1:55:54] realize that the cannabis
[1:55:58] people are using these days are
[1:55:58] not the plant with low
[1:55:59] concentrations.
[1:56:00] They are highly engineered and
[1:56:05] engineered to increase their
[1:56:05] potency.
[1:56:06] And this of course is what
[1:56:06] leads to addiction and
[1:56:10] dependance and adverse mental
[1:56:11] health episodes.
[1:56:12] Number two the structural
[1:56:16] change to the adolescent brain
[1:56:17] due to their exposure to
[1:56:17] marijuana use is significant.
[1:56:23] They call it in this article
[1:56:23] brain inflammation and it
[1:56:24] changes the structural wiring
[1:56:29] of the White matter in
[1:56:29] the brain.
[1:56:30] One can only think for about
[1:56:35] 10s and you know what that
[1:56:36] means for a population of
[1:56:36] children a whole demographic.
[1:56:37] And three the concern they have
[1:56:41] regarding working memory
[1:56:41] impairment and I've spoken to
[1:56:47] that concern as it applies to
[1:56:47] impaired driving.
[1:56:48] The fourth and the one that
[1:56:49] brings me here is the role of
[1:56:53] marijuana use in triggering
[1:56:53] the mental health problems of
[1:56:54] paranoia and panic.
[1:56:55] If you've ever dealt with
[1:56:59] someone having a bad experience
[1:56:59] with paranoia you know how
[1:57:00] painful it is.
[1:57:04] Thank you.
[1:57:05] Thank you, Becky Rapp.
[1:57:05] Please begin.
[1:57:11] Good afternoon.
[1:57:11] My name is Becky Robin.
[1:57:12] I'd like to thank the Public
[1:57:13] Safety Committee for bringing
[1:57:16] forward the transition Support
[1:57:17] Team pilot program helping to
[1:57:18] connect vulnerable individuals
[1:57:23] with behavioral health services
[1:57:23] ,housing resources and other
[1:57:24] supportive programs as it is
[1:57:24] crucial.
[1:57:30] However, I'm concerned that in
[1:57:30] the report marijuana and its
[1:57:31] potential behavioral health
[1:57:32] impacts were not included.
[1:57:35] If the goal of the transition
[1:57:36] support team is to improve
[1:57:37] behavioral health outcomes and
[1:57:41] prevent people from falling
[1:57:42] deeper into crisis then we must
[1:57:42] recognize the connection
[1:57:43] between high potency marijuana
[1:57:47] products and mental health
[1:57:48] consequences.
[1:57:48] The most recent publicly
[1:57:53] reported San Diego County
[1:57:54] toxicology report found that
[1:57:57] thc was present in 43% of
[1:57:58] completed suicides involving
[1:58:03] individuals age 25 and younger.
[1:58:04] Let that sink in for a minute.
[1:58:07] 43%.
[1:58:08] We have to start recognizing
[1:58:08] the role marijuana plays in
[1:58:13] mental health outcomes.
[1:58:14] I'm also encouraging
[1:58:15] the council to request updated
[1:58:19] information from the medical
[1:58:20] examiner, behavioral health
[1:58:20] services and other agencies
[1:58:21] regarding thc positive
[1:58:21] suicides.
[1:58:26] Marijuana related psychiatric
[1:58:26] admissions, emergency
[1:58:27] department visits and impaired
[1:58:32] driving incidents.
[1:58:33] As this pilot program
[1:58:38] progresses, council must ensure
[1:58:39] that marijuana prevention,
[1:58:39] education and behavioral health
[1:58:44] reporting are integrated into
[1:58:44] this program.
[1:58:45] If the mission of the trans
[1:58:46] transition support team is to
[1:58:50] help people avoid crisis and
[1:58:51] achieve stability then we
[1:58:51] should be willing to address
[1:58:52] all substances that MAY be
[1:58:56] contributing to those
[1:58:57] challenges.
[1:58:57] >> Thank you.
[1:58:57] Thank you.
[1:59:00] Our final speaker is Madison.
[1:59:07] Again.
[1:59:07] Hi.
[1:59:08] Thank you and good afternoon.
[1:59:08] My concern is about the growing
[1:59:13] normalization of marijuana use
[1:59:14] and what science tells us about
[1:59:14] its impact on young people.
[1:59:15] Lynn Silver is a San Diego
[1:59:19] based public health physician
[1:59:19] and advocate focused on
[1:59:20] protecting youth health through
[1:59:24] evidence based policy
[1:59:25] prevention and education.
[1:59:26] Her work centers on reducing
[1:59:30] the harms of substance use and
[1:59:31] supporting healthier
[1:59:31] communities and she shared
[1:59:36] the recent research that shows
[1:59:37] that when it comes to cannabis,
[1:59:38] three factors matter most how
[1:59:38] often it is used.
[1:59:43] How young someone is when they
[1:59:43] start and the potency of
[1:59:44] the thc.
[1:59:49] Unfortunately today's marijuana
[1:59:50] products are far more potent
[1:59:50] than those used in previous
[1:59:51] generations and young people
[1:59:55] are particularly vulnerable to
[1:59:55] the effects.
[1:59:56] Studies have found that heavy
[2:00:00] cannabis use is associated with
[2:00:01] changes in brain connectivity,
[2:00:01] reduced working memory and an
[2:00:06] increased risk of psychosis
[2:00:07] like symptoms perhaps most
[2:00:08] concerning adolescents who use
[2:00:08] cannabis within the previous
[2:00:13] year were found to have double
[2:00:13] the risk of developing a
[2:00:16] psychotic or bipolar disorder
[2:00:17] by age 26.
[2:00:18] We're also seeing other serious
[2:00:23] consequences like cases of
[2:00:24] cannabinoid hyperemesis
[2:00:24] syndrome, a condition that
[2:00:25] causes severe and repeated
[2:00:25] vomiting.
[2:00:30] Have quadrupled among young
[2:00:30] people in recent years.
[2:00:31] Researchers have concluded that
[2:00:35] cannabis does not support it as
[2:00:36] a treatment for many mental
[2:00:36] health conditions.
[2:00:37] Despite claims often made by
[2:00:42] the industry, the takeaway from
[2:00:42] all this research is clear
[2:00:43] there is no safe limit for
[2:00:47] youth cannabis use.
[2:00:47] The developing brain is
[2:00:48] uniquely susceptible to harm
[2:00:49] and early exposure carries
[2:00:53] measurable risks that can last
[2:00:54] well into adulthood.
[2:00:54] As policymakers you have
[2:00:55] the responsibility to put
[2:00:59] the health and well-being of
[2:00:59] young people first.
[2:01:00] I urge you to continue
[2:01:01] supporting policies that reduce
[2:01:06] youth exposure, limit
[2:01:07] normalization and prioritize
[2:01:07] prevention and education.
[2:01:08] >> Thank you.
[2:01:11] Thank you.
[2:01:12] >> This concludes knowledge and
[2:01:13] the public comment.
[2:01:13] All right.
[2:01:14] Thank you Deputy Clerk for
[2:01:14] that.
[2:01:18] I haven't gotten confirmation
[2:01:18] that the chambers will be
[2:01:19] suitable.
[2:01:19] I'm getting ahead Not that it
[2:01:23] probably won't be.
[2:01:24] So when you come back to
[2:01:24] the 12th floor, check if
[2:01:29] Chambers ready will go in there
[2:01:29] And if not we will resume
[2:01:30] the meeting here in
[2:01:31] the committee room.
[2:01:35] So we will now adjourn for
[2:01:35] the noon recess and reconvene
[2:01:36] in open session at 2 P.M. Or
[2:01:39] shortly thereafter.
[2:01:40] Thank you everyone for their
[2:29:15] All right.
[2:29:16] >> Good afternoon.
[2:29:16] We're going to get started.
[2:29:21] I will now reconvene the city
[2:29:21] council meeting of Tuesday,
[2:29:22] JUNE 23rd, 2026.
[2:29:23] Deputy Clerk Please call
[2:29:28] the Roll Council Member
[2:29:28] Campbell.
[2:29:29] Council Member Whitburn here
[2:29:29] Council Member Foster here
[2:29:33] Council Member Vaughn Wilbert.
[2:29:34] Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee.
[2:29:40] Council Member Campo here.
[2:29:40] Council Member Moreno.
[2:29:41] Present Council Member Isla
[2:29:44] Rivera.
[2:29:45] And Council PRESIDENT LaCava.
[2:29:45] Present.
[2:29:46] Also attending the meeting are
[2:29:51] Assistant City Attorney Leslie
[2:29:52] Fitzgerald, Independent Budget
[2:29:52] Analyst Charles Monica.
[2:29:53] Council Affairs Advisor in
[2:29:56] the Mayor's office Gomez Iser
[2:29:57] and myself Definitely.
[2:29:58] Deputy City Clerk Kevin Smith.
[2:29:58] All right.
[2:30:03] Thank you for that Quorum is
[2:30:03] now present.
[2:30:04] While the technical issues in
[2:30:04] council chambers look like
[2:30:05] they're very, very close to
[2:30:10] being resolved, we decided to
[2:30:11] take this or I decided to take
[2:30:11] the safer course.
[2:30:12] >> We know this works.
[2:30:15] It went very well This morning.
[2:30:16] And again, thank you to
[2:30:17] the city clerk's work, I.T. And
[2:30:21] everybody my colleagues and
[2:30:22] the public.
[2:30:23] Flexibility to move us into
[2:30:27] the committee room and get on
[2:30:28] with this morning's business.
[2:30:34] With that we also have a change
[2:30:34] of order for this afternoon.
[2:30:38] We will start with item 333.
[2:30:38] We will hear the staff
[2:30:44] presentation and public comment
[2:30:45] for that item and we will trail
[2:30:46] item 333 after the public
[2:30:50] hearing is concluded.
[2:30:51] We will then hear item 330.
[2:30:52] After that is concluded we will
[2:30:57] come back for item 333 to hear
[2:30:57] the tabulation of any protests
[2:30:58] and proceed with council member
[2:31:02] comments.
[2:31:03] Questions and entertain a
[2:31:03] motion.
[2:31:08] With that Deputy Clerk please
[2:31:14] introduce item 333333 is
[2:31:14] collection of solid waste
[2:31:15] management fee on county tax
[2:31:15] rolls.
[2:31:16] Six votes are required pursuant
[2:31:19] to health and safety Code
[2:31:19] section 5473.
[2:31:19] >> All right.
[2:31:25] We will now open the notice to
[2:31:25] public hearing to consider
[2:31:26] whether to adopt the written
[2:31:27] report identifying the parcels
[2:31:30] receiving city provided solid
[2:31:31] waste management services and
[2:31:32] the solid waste management fees
[2:31:32] for each parcel for
[2:31:36] the upcoming tax year.
[2:31:37] If the report is adopted,
[2:31:38] the solid waste management fees
[2:31:38] listed in the report will be
[2:31:42] collected on the 2026 2027
[2:31:43] county tax roll in the same
[2:31:48] manner by the same persons at
[2:31:49] the same time as together with
[2:31:49] and not separate from
[2:31:54] the general taxes.
[2:31:55] If you are an affected property
[2:31:56] owners and have a written
[2:31:56] protest that you want to submit
[2:32:01] please bring it to the front
[2:32:02] where speaker slips are
[2:32:02] submitted And if you wish to
[2:32:03] register a protest as part of
[2:32:06] your comments please state your
[2:32:07] name and address for
[2:32:07] the record.
[2:32:08] Both oral and written protest
[2:32:12] will be accepted including
[2:32:12] protest received virtually.
[2:32:13] The public hearing will
[2:32:18] conclude at the end of all
[2:32:19] public testimony.
[2:32:19] And as stated earlier we will
[2:32:20] then trail this item and move
[2:32:24] on to item 330 to allow
[2:32:25] the clerk to tabulate
[2:32:25] the protests from affected
[2:32:30] property owners without staff.
[2:32:31] Please introduce yourselves for
[2:32:32] the record and let us know how
[2:32:33] much time you need for your
[2:32:36] presentation.
[2:32:37] Good afternoon Council members.
[2:32:38] My name is Jeremy Bauer and
[2:32:38] Assistant Director of
[2:32:39] Environmental Services
[2:32:43] Department and joined today
[2:32:43] with us with Deputy Director
[2:32:44] Sarah Sims.
[2:32:45] We request ten minutes please.
[2:32:51] When you're ready.
[2:32:52] So today's action we'll talk
[2:32:53] quickly about the background.
[2:32:53] Following the description of
[2:32:58] the proposed action, talk about
[2:32:59] today's meeting, the proposed
[2:32:59] hearing and how it was noticed.
[2:33:03] We'll discuss how the fees were
[2:33:04] calculated for those that are
[2:33:04] in the report that will be
[2:33:05] presented and considered by
[2:33:09] city council.
[2:33:10] Will remind the departments
[2:33:10] benefits of tax for billing
[2:33:14] that we had identified last
[2:33:15] year and continue to hold today
[2:33:21] And then timeline of next steps
[2:33:21] .
[2:33:22] So on the proposed action I
[2:33:22] just for the record I want to
[2:33:23] note that yesterday we did
[2:33:27] update the description of
[2:33:27] the proposed action in
[2:33:28] the staff report.
[2:33:28] It had referenced the fiscal
[2:33:32] year as fiscal year 27 dash
[2:33:33] 2006 2006 dash 2007 and just
[2:33:37] didn't conform with how
[2:33:38] the city typically refers to
[2:33:38] fiscal year.
[2:33:39] We corrected it to match what's
[2:33:43] on the screen fiscal year 2047.
[2:33:44] So the item today as council
[2:33:50] PRESIDENT Explained is for
[2:33:51] Council to consider a report of
[2:33:51] a list of the properties that
[2:33:52] receive solid waste management
[2:33:55] services from the city of San
[2:33:56] Diego and the amount of fee to
[2:33:57] be charged for the solid waste
[2:33:58] management fee for fiscal year
[2:34:04] 2027 as background.
[2:34:05] Last JUNE after the fee was
[2:34:06] adopted by City Council
[2:34:10] emergency Services Department
[2:34:11] returned to City Council to
[2:34:12] receive authorization to
[2:34:12] collect that fee on the county
[2:34:16] tax roll.
[2:34:17] The city then submitted a
[2:34:18] report to county of the list of
[2:34:22] properties and the amount of
[2:34:22] the fee.
[2:34:23] And then as the county collects
[2:34:23] the fee it remits revenue to
[2:34:28] the city each month as it
[2:34:28] revenues receive from
[2:34:29] the county from customers to
[2:34:34] the county typically comes into
[2:34:35] a bulk areas of revenue around
[2:34:35] NOVEMBER, DECEMBER and between
[2:34:36] FEBRUARY and APRIL
[2:34:41] corresponding when the majority
[2:34:41] of customers pay their property
[2:34:42] taxes.
[2:34:46] So today's action is to request
[2:34:47] Council to adopt the report for
[2:34:48] fiscal year 27 And as Council
[2:34:51] PRESIDENT Noted, this requires
[2:34:52] a two thirds majority to pass a
[2:34:52] public hearing.
[2:34:58] Notice was published on JUNE
[2:34:59] 8th and filed with the city
[2:34:59] clerk.
[2:35:00] The city Clerk website includes
[2:35:04] the report of the properties.
[2:35:04] We also turn on the daily
[2:35:05] transcript We advertised notice
[2:35:06] of today's meeting and
[2:35:11] availability of the report as
[2:35:12] well as how to protest and how
[2:35:12] to be present for this meeting
[2:35:16] and then the report if adopted
[2:35:16] by City Council today.
[2:35:17] Environmental Services
[2:35:17] Department by AUGUST 10th will
[2:35:21] submit that report to
[2:35:22] the county which will then
[2:35:22] allow us to collect the revenue
[2:35:28] in the coming year.
[2:35:28] This slide just shows a an
[2:35:29] image of notice that was
[2:35:33] published with the daily
[2:35:34] transcript including a
[2:35:34] description of today's hearing.
[2:35:35] The time and location
[2:35:38] the health and Safety code
[2:35:39] citation contact information
[2:35:40] and information on how the city
[2:35:44] considers protests.
[2:35:45] This slide shows the headings
[2:35:50] of the report.
[2:35:51] So the first column is
[2:35:52] the individual id for each
[2:35:56] property the assessor's parcel
[2:35:57] number.
[2:35:57] The second column is
[2:35:58] the baseline fee for each
[2:35:58] property.
[2:36:03] So corresponding to the service
[2:36:03] level that that property has.
[2:36:04] So for example if a property
[2:36:08] has the 35 gallon trash
[2:36:13] container package it would show
[2:36:14] $403.92 corresponding to
[2:36:14] the baseline rate for that
[2:36:15] service package.
[2:36:20] The next four columns show
[2:36:21] potential credits that that
[2:36:21] property might have earned in
[2:36:22] this current fiscal year.
[2:36:25] So for example, if a property
[2:36:26] ordered a 35 gallon package
[2:36:32] the smallest container this
[2:36:32] year in right now and they
[2:36:33] received that in JANUARY.
[2:36:37] The 35 gallon package is $10.78
[2:36:41] less than the 95 gallon.
[2:36:42] So the math would be six months
[2:36:42] times $10.78.
[2:36:47] So that would show-$64.68.
[2:36:53] So demonstrating a credit of
[2:36:53] $64.68 for the difference in
[2:36:54] the fee.
[2:36:54] Similarly, the next column
[2:36:59] shows financial assistance
[2:36:59] received.
[2:37:00] So if a property was eligible
[2:37:01] for financial assistance in
[2:37:04] this case it might show
[2:37:05] -$201.96 corresponding to that
[2:37:10] credit for assistance.
[2:37:11] The next item just says other
[2:37:11] adjustments That's a catch all.
[2:37:12] We don't have any other
[2:37:16] adjustments but we included
[2:37:17] that in case there were other
[2:37:17] adjustments to account for.
[2:37:18] And then the next column is
[2:37:19] total of all the credits.
[2:37:22] So in this case for example I
[2:37:27] just described it would be
[2:37:28] $64.68 plus 201 96.
[2:37:31] So a total credit of $266.64.
[2:37:32] The next several columns show
[2:37:37] debits or additional charges.
[2:37:38] So if for example a customer
[2:37:43] received a second trash
[2:37:43] container in JANUARY in this
[2:37:47] fiscal year a second trash
[2:37:48] container costs $17.78 per
[2:37:48] month.
[2:37:49] If they received that in
[2:37:53] JANUARY the math would be six
[2:37:53] times 1778.
[2:37:57] So this customer would show a
[2:37:58] debit of $106.68.
[2:37:58] Assume as well for example that
[2:38:04] this customer pledged to donate
[2:38:05] $100 toward the financial
[2:38:05] assistance program.
[2:38:06] In that case, the column for
[2:38:10] financial assistance donation
[2:38:10] would show $100.
[2:38:11] So in this example if you
[2:38:12] summarize to the total would
[2:38:16] show $206.68.
[2:38:17] The final column on the right
[2:38:17] is the net.
[2:38:22] So we would show whatever
[2:38:22] the baseline fee was for
[2:38:23] the customer minus any credits
[2:38:27] plus any additional charges or
[2:38:28] debits.
[2:38:29] And that would be the amount to
[2:38:34] be charged to the customer.
[2:38:34] Just want to note that although
[2:38:35] this MAY sound complicated,
[2:38:36] the portal was designed to
[2:38:40] track the delivery dates of
[2:38:40] containers and to export
[2:38:41] the report in an easy manner
[2:38:45] for stuff.
[2:38:46] This slide shows in text form
[2:38:51] what I just described on how
[2:38:52] the fees were calculated in
[2:38:53] the report.
[2:38:57] I'll also note that customers
[2:38:57] can view the fee breakdown on
[2:38:58] their portal account if they
[2:39:03] have a portal account at which
[2:39:04] portal that San diego.Gov.
[2:39:05] If they don't have a portal
[2:39:05] account they can call our call
[2:39:09] center.
[2:39:10] The number listed on the slide
[2:39:11] 858694 7000.
[2:39:15] And our call center staff have
[2:39:16] access to the background data
[2:39:17] and could describe the math
[2:39:17] that goes into the charts for
[2:39:20] each property.
[2:39:21] This slide just recaps
[2:39:27] the rationale why staff
[2:39:28] proposed checks were billing
[2:39:28] initially.
[2:39:29] We had estimated that standing
[2:39:33] up any billing department would
[2:39:34] cost a significant sum of money
[2:39:35] and the costs of that program
[2:39:35] would have been incorporated
[2:39:39] into the overall fee that went
[2:39:39] to customers.
[2:39:40] By taking another path that
[2:39:45] savings has been passed on to
[2:39:45] customers.
[2:39:46] Its actual billing is also
[2:39:51] convenient for customers.
[2:39:52] They're already paying
[2:39:52] the property tax bill anyway so
[2:39:53] this is one less bill to track.
[2:39:56] It's easier for the city We
[2:39:57] have no need to track tenants
[2:39:57] coming and going.
[2:39:58] The customer is the property
[2:39:58] owner.
[2:40:02] There is a strong payment
[2:40:03] compliance.
[2:40:07] As of last week 98.48% of
[2:40:08] customers have paid their
[2:40:08] property tax bill.
[2:40:09] We have a couple more weeks
[2:40:14] left in the fiscal year.
[2:40:14] Typically the city budget its
[2:40:18] budgets with an assumption of
[2:40:19] 98.89 8.9.
[2:40:20] So we'll be able to see in
[2:40:20] the coming weeks whether this
[2:40:21] year is on track with prior
[2:40:24] years or if there's any
[2:40:25] difference and the cost to
[2:40:26] the city for the county to send
[2:40:31] other bills, collect
[2:40:31] the revenue and do any follow
[2:40:35] up customers cost us around
[2:40:36] $22,500 per year for the county
[2:40:41] to take care of all of them.
[2:40:41] And this last slide just shows
[2:40:42] a summary of the timeline.
[2:40:48] So on JUNE 8th as I noted, we
[2:40:48] noticed the action today,
[2:40:49] the report today being
[2:40:53] available.
[2:40:54] The hearing is taking place as
[2:40:54] we speak.
[2:40:55] And then by AUGUST 10th if
[2:40:59] council adopts the fee we will
[2:40:59] provide the report to
[2:41:00] the county which will then
[2:41:01] allow us to collect this
[2:41:01] revenue in the coming fiscal
[2:41:02] year.
[2:41:05] And then in the fall customers
[2:41:06] can expect to see the fee on
[2:41:10] their property tax bills.
[2:41:11] And that's all I have.
[2:41:16] Thank you.
[2:41:16] All right.
[2:41:17] Thank you for the presentation.
[2:41:18] So with that we will go to
[2:41:22] public comment.
[2:41:23] And as a friendly reminder to
[2:41:24] issue a protest you must
[2:41:28] actually be a customer of
[2:41:28] the City of San Diego trash
[2:41:29] collection system.
[2:41:34] So please proceed with public
[2:41:34] comment.
[2:41:35] >> Thank you.
[2:41:36] Council PRESIDENT The public
[2:41:40] comment period for this item is
[2:41:40] now open.
[2:41:41] I would like to remind everyone
[2:41:42] that if you are an affected
[2:41:42] property owner and wish to
[2:41:46] submit a protest against
[2:41:46] adoption of the written report
[2:41:47] identifying solid waste
[2:41:48] management fees to be collected
[2:41:51] on the 2026 2027 tax rule You
[2:41:52] must do so prior to the close
[2:41:53] of the public hearing or
[2:41:57] protests started during
[2:41:57] the public comment period.
[2:41:58] Protests that are received by
[2:41:59] the court before the hearing is
[2:42:03] closed will be counted.
[2:42:04] If you're in chambers please
[2:42:04] submit your speaker slip on top
[2:42:08] of the box at the front of
[2:42:09] the room.
[2:42:10] If you're watching on city tv
[2:42:15] or the live stream online and
[2:42:16] would like to call into
[2:42:20] the meeting to speak please
[2:42:20] call 16692545252.
[2:42:24] When prompted input webinar id
[2:42:25] 1609430466 If you are joining
[2:42:26] us virtually please raise your
[2:42:31] hand to speak by tapping
[2:42:31] the raise your hand icon or if
[2:42:33] you are calling participant
[2:42:33] Star nine.
[2:42:40] We will we will begin with
[2:42:41] in-person comment.
[2:42:44] Max Schmitt to please come
[2:42:44] forward you'll have ten minutes
[2:43:01] to speak.
[2:43:02] Hi.
[2:43:07] I wanted to be a voice for all
[2:43:08] property owners in San Diego
[2:43:09] who could not come to this
[2:43:14] meeting to say that
[2:43:14] the property taxes are too high
[2:43:20] and that for there to be this
[2:43:20] additional fee on the property
[2:43:25] taxes.
[2:43:26] I think a lot of property
[2:43:31] owners obviously don't want
[2:43:32] this fee.
[2:43:37] I know many people I know that
[2:43:37] might be the minority of people
[2:43:43] because I do believe in fair
[2:43:43] elections and I believe that
[2:43:44] there's many liberals in San
[2:43:45] Diego who believe that city
[2:43:49] council knows how to spend
[2:43:50] their money better than they
[2:43:50] do.
[2:43:56] So maybe they support the fee.
[2:43:57] However, I do know that there
[2:43:58] is a voice of resistance in San
[2:44:02] Diego who thinks the property
[2:44:03] taxes are too high.
[2:44:04] I for 1 A.M. Homeless so I
[2:44:08] don't have the property so it
[2:44:08] doesn't really count for me.
[2:44:09] And I also want to be a voice
[2:44:14] for Catholics where I think
[2:44:15] many Catholics would be against
[2:44:20] an added property tax for to go
[2:44:21] to the city of San Diego
[2:44:21] because of the Catholic
[2:44:26] genocide going on.
[2:44:27] I think that until the city of
[2:44:27] San Diego addresses
[2:44:32] the underground hidden Catholic
[2:44:32] genocide I believe many
[2:44:33] Catholic property owners in San
[2:44:38] Diego would be against an extra
[2:44:43] an increase in property tax.
[2:44:44] And the reason I think that is
[2:44:45] because the genocides real on
[2:44:49] Catholics are being killed.
[2:44:50] They're being surrounded by
[2:44:55] people speaking gibberish until
[2:44:56] the point they're driven
[2:44:56] completely insane and it's
[2:45:01] become a serious problem And
[2:45:01] needs to be addressed.
[2:45:02] >> Thank you for your comments.
[2:45:12] Allegedly under I guess I
[2:45:12] wonder how many times we're
[2:45:17] going to go down this path.
[2:45:18] I mean what was Proposition 218
[2:45:22] put in place for And we just
[2:45:23] had a lawsuit for $1 million to
[2:45:24] get you guys to change what is
[2:45:28] happening.
[2:45:29] And here we are again saying
[2:45:29] that you want people property
[2:45:33] owners to come and protest.
[2:45:37] Are you going to honor Prop 218
[2:45:38] or are we going to go down
[2:45:39] the path again to potentially
[2:45:44] engage in litigation and cause
[2:45:44] the city really the people a
[2:45:45] million more dollars or
[2:45:49] potentially more than that
[2:45:49] because you are not engaging in
[2:45:54] this work properly the way that
[2:45:55] you talk about you know, you
[2:46:00] know, strong payment compliance
[2:46:00] .
[2:46:01] Well, I mean when you're set to
[2:46:02] lose your house if you do not
[2:46:06] pay this bill I mean of course
[2:46:06] you're going to force
[2:46:07] compliance.
[2:46:07] But when you talk about making
[2:46:11] it easier and cheaper and
[2:46:12] convenient to put it on a tax
[2:46:16] roll that is very negligent
[2:46:17] because that's not true, you're
[2:46:18] actually setting people up to
[2:46:21] lose their property And when
[2:46:22] nobody knows about you guys
[2:46:26] it's like this room is filled
[2:46:27] with your staff and a couple of
[2:46:31] people who you know, care about
[2:46:32] what's going on in
[2:46:32] the community around us.
[2:46:33] But when you have people who
[2:46:37] are working right now trying to
[2:46:37] make ends meet and you're
[2:46:38] expecting them to come and
[2:46:46] protest a new tax bill, just
[2:46:46] kind of wondering like why we
[2:46:47] continue to do these things
[2:46:51] that that is insanity when you
[2:46:51] continue to try and stick a
[2:46:52] square peg into a round hole
[2:46:57] and expect people to I mean,
[2:46:57] yeah, most people don't pay
[2:46:58] attention but you will have
[2:47:02] people that will come against
[2:47:02] you in litigation and it's not
[2:47:03] fair to the people to make us
[2:47:07] do that in order for you guys
[2:47:08] to follow the law you expect us
[2:47:08] to.
[2:47:09] And so I think that you should
[2:47:12] be held to the same standard.
[2:47:13] Thank you.
[2:47:13] That does conclude in-person
[2:47:18] public comment.
[2:47:19] I've started the five person
[2:47:22] excuse me I've started the five
[2:47:23] minute timer in the committee
[2:47:24] room and will now turn to
[2:47:27] the virtual queue which there
[2:47:28] are currently two participants
[2:47:32] requesting to speak.
[2:47:35] Hector please begin your
[2:47:40] comments.
[2:47:41] All right.
[2:47:41] Thanks for building trust in
[2:47:42] the community.
[2:47:46] This is not like the one two
[2:47:46] kick or this thing was not
[2:47:47] really documented Trust for
[2:47:50] the community but the way you
[2:47:51] collect the fees I disagree
[2:47:52] with this.
[2:47:55] I don't have a house.
[2:47:56] I got a condo.
[2:47:57] So we had trash pickup private
[2:48:02] and then the let it is where
[2:48:05] there's no one even there to
[2:48:05] protest.
[2:48:06] Yes, they probably don't even
[2:48:09] know about it If you send them
[2:48:10] a message I think you should
[2:48:14] just trust trust the people to
[2:48:15] send their money and every
[2:48:15] month just trust the public to
[2:48:19] send you a check every month
[2:48:20] instead of taking out of your
[2:48:20] property tax which is just
[2:48:25] that's like that's not right
[2:48:28] you know to do that And any way
[2:48:29] who gets the spread so your
[2:48:30] check clears your property tax
[2:48:34] like a week ago and then
[2:48:34] the property taxes do like in
[2:48:38] the next week and then who gets
[2:48:39] the spread from the actual
[2:48:43] money being in the bank So
[2:48:44] the money comes to the city It
[2:48:44] probably doesn't go directly to
[2:48:48] the city for a while.
[2:48:48] So does the city get
[2:48:49] the spread?
[2:48:52] That's the whole banking system
[2:48:53] is in the spread.
[2:48:53] Whoever makes that holding
[2:48:56] the money for seven days is
[2:48:57] worth something.
[2:48:58] That's a lot of money that's
[2:49:02] going to somewhere.
[2:49:02] I was just wondering who get do
[2:49:03] you guys know who gets
[2:49:07] the spread?
[2:49:08] Does the county get it while
[2:49:09] they're sitting on all the cash
[2:49:11] before they give it to you Or
[2:49:12] do you when they pay your taxes
[2:49:16] you don't get the money that
[2:49:16] same day.
[2:49:17] So I just wondered who's
[2:49:20] shading, who's getting
[2:49:21] the spread And you might want
[2:49:26] to tell us if you know that
[2:49:27] who's getting the spread.
[2:49:30] That's one of my questions And
[2:49:30] then good luck with the trash
[2:49:35] thing to That's my thing.
[2:49:39] Thank you for your comments.
[2:49:39] Our next speaker is a caller
[2:49:40] with the last four digits 8700
[2:49:46] Please begin.
[2:49:50] Thank you.
[2:49:51] So we have two minutes right?
[2:49:52] Deputy City Clerk That's
[2:49:55] correct.
[2:49:56] Thank you so much, Joy.
[2:49:59] Senator first of all yes to
[2:50:04] trash collection system I think
[2:50:04] I heard this correctly
[2:50:08] The county is going to keep
[2:50:13] $22,000 per year out of those
[2:50:14] fees in order to process them.
[2:50:18] Tax rules that surprise me.
[2:50:19] I wish it were zero.
[2:50:23] So thank you for
[2:50:24] the presentation dsd and thank
[2:50:25] you to esd for all your work on
[2:50:28] this matter especially thank
[2:50:29] you to Kirby Brady,
[2:50:33] the director.
[2:50:34] Now for me this process really
[2:50:34] was the lessons I've learned.
[2:50:38] I learned a lot.
[2:50:38] You know I was a board right
[2:50:42] from the beginning and I know
[2:50:43] how many years ago that was And
[2:50:44] I just have learned a lot And
[2:50:48] after that give and take on
[2:50:48] both sides that we came to this
[2:50:49] place.
[2:50:52] I support the adjusted lower
[2:50:57] fee schedule Now I want to say
[2:50:58] this Dear homeowners, I've
[2:50:58] never been a homeowner.
[2:50:59] I wish that would have happened
[2:51:02] to me.
[2:51:03] It wasn't in the cards.
[2:51:06] But anyway, dear homeowners,
[2:51:07] please don't protest this.
[2:51:12] I'm trying to get inside your
[2:51:12] pocketbook, inside the quality
[2:51:13] of your life And you know I
[2:51:16] can't in reality but I just ask
[2:51:17] that we need your help.
[2:51:22] We need you just to jump on
[2:51:23] board and to help us through
[2:51:25] this big crisis of deficits and
[2:51:26] so forth.
[2:51:26] Everybody makes mistakes.
[2:51:29] We're all doing our best So
[2:51:30] dear homeowners on all sides
[2:51:35] please do not protest.
[2:51:39] Please participate in our
[2:51:40] government and make it work for
[2:51:41] all of us together at the same
[2:51:44] family table.
[2:51:45] So thank you for listening And
[2:51:49] to all thank you.
[2:51:50] Our next speaker is Toni.
[2:52:03] Please begin your comments.
[2:52:08] Toni we can't quite hear you.
[2:52:09] Can you speak up or turn up
[2:52:12] the volume please?
[2:52:22] Toni, we cannot hear you.
[2:52:31] We will have to move on.
[2:52:32] Council PRESIDENT That
[2:52:33] concludes public comment on
[2:52:33] this item.
[2:52:36] All right.
[2:52:37] >> Thank you Deputy Kirk With
[2:52:41] that the public hearing is now
[2:52:41] closed.
[2:52:42] And as previously noted we will
[2:52:45] trail this item while protests
[2:52:46] are being tabulated and move on
[2:52:47] to item 330.
[2:52:51] The protest will be read into
[2:52:51] the record after item 330
[2:52:55] concludes and we will take
[2:52:56] councilmember comments
[2:52:56] questions and entertain a
[2:52:57] motion at that time.
[2:53:00] So with that Deputy Clerk
[2:53:04] please introduce item 330 Item
[2:53:04] 330 is city provided
[2:53:05] residential Solid waste
[2:53:07] management services
[2:53:18] Implementation Update.
[2:53:23] All right, Please introduce
[2:53:24] yourselves again for the record
[2:53:25] and let us know how much time
[2:53:25] you need for this item.
[2:53:27] >> Thank you.
[2:53:27] Council PRESIDENT.
[2:53:28] Good afternoon, Council
[2:53:28] members.
[2:53:29] My name is Jeremy Bauer,
[2:53:30] Assistant Director,
[2:53:32] Environmental Services
[2:53:33] Department.
[2:53:33] I'm joined with Sarah Sims, our
[2:53:34] Deputy director.
[2:53:36] MAY please have up to 15
[2:53:37] minutes for this item.
[2:53:37] >> All right.
[2:53:37] When you're ready.
[2:53:38] Great.
[2:53:41] So today's item is to provide
[2:53:41] an update on the implementation
[2:53:42] activities.
[2:53:42] Environmental Services
[2:53:46] Department has been up to since
[2:53:47] last JUNE when the solid waste
[2:53:50] management fee was adopted.
[2:53:51] We'll provide a quick update on
[2:53:52] the background.
[2:53:55] We'll discuss the container,
[2:53:56] roll out the customer portal.
[2:54:00] We'll talk about the financial
[2:54:00] assistance program.
[2:54:01] The outreach and engagement
[2:54:05] activities we've undertaken
[2:54:05] upcoming program developments.
[2:54:12] The fund outlook And next Steps
[2:54:13] .
[2:54:14] So as a background under
[2:54:17] the city ordinance city forces
[2:54:18] are obligated to provide trash
[2:54:19] and recycling services to
[2:54:23] eligible customers in the city
[2:54:24] of San Diego.
[2:54:24] The city ordinance specifies
[2:54:25] that this work be done by
[2:54:28] employees of the city of San
[2:54:28] Diego.
[2:54:29] And it clarifies who's eligible
[2:54:32] namely residential properties
[2:54:33] with one of up to four
[2:54:37] properties on a single lot that
[2:54:37] meet city requirements for city
[2:54:38] service.
[2:54:38] Measure b.
[2:54:42] When it was adopted by voters
[2:54:43] in 2022, it removed a long
[2:54:43] standing prohibition that had
[2:54:46] been in place that prevented
[2:54:47] the city from recovering
[2:54:48] the cost To provide this
[2:54:51] service.
[2:54:52] Following a year of outreach
[2:54:56] and engagement and a cost of
[2:54:57] service study, we presented
[2:54:57] four City Council
[2:55:01] considerations last JUNE a fee
[2:55:02] to recover those costs.
[2:55:02] City Council adopted that fee
[2:55:06] on JUNE nine, 2025 and then a
[2:55:07] couple of weeks after that
[2:55:10] authorized the city to collect
[2:55:11] the fee on the county textual.
[2:55:15] Before the adoption of that fee
[2:55:16] the services were primarily
[2:55:17] covered by the general fund.
[2:55:20] Now they're largely covered by
[2:55:20] the fee as well.
[2:55:21] I'll note in this presentation
[2:55:24] that on JUNE 8th the City
[2:55:25] Council authorized a settlement
[2:55:29] agreement which reduces
[2:55:30] the previously adopted fee for
[2:55:33] fiscal year 28 and 29.
[2:55:34] The action did not change
[2:55:35] the fee for the current year
[2:55:36] nor did it change the fee for
[2:55:41] next year.
[2:55:41] So on the container rollout
[2:55:46] I'll take the opportunity to
[2:55:46] remind the rationale for
[2:55:47] replacing the containers.
[2:55:51] The new fee is based on
[2:55:52] the size of the trash container
[2:55:52] and the total number of
[2:55:56] containers on the property.
[2:55:57] The new containers recognizing
[2:56:00] that the city did not have
[2:56:01] great data on the number of
[2:56:01] containers at each property.
[2:56:05] We didn't have sufficient
[2:56:06] accuracy or precision to be
[2:56:06] able to know how many
[2:56:10] containers were out there and
[2:56:11] to be able to ensure customer
[2:56:11] verification that we were only
[2:56:15] providing service to eligible
[2:56:16] customers and that we were
[2:56:19] providing service at the level
[2:56:20] selected by the customer.
[2:56:24] Also recognizing that so many
[2:56:25] of the containers out there
[2:56:26] were well beyond their useful
[2:56:26] life, we did make
[2:56:30] the determination that the most
[2:56:30] effective way to validate our
[2:56:31] customers and their service
[2:56:35] level was to do provide new
[2:56:35] containers, new trash and
[2:56:39] recycling containers.
[2:56:40] Importantly we involved in this
[2:56:40] process collecting
[2:56:44] the containers to recycle them
[2:56:45] to ensure that that material is
[2:56:48] available to make new plastic
[2:56:49] products including buckets,
[2:56:50] pallets or even new trash
[2:56:53] containers.
[2:56:54] I will also note that the we
[2:56:55] are not doing a comprehensive
[2:56:58] replacement of the green
[2:56:59] organics containers as those
[2:56:59] are quite new But those
[2:57:02] customers that are changing
[2:57:03] their organics service level or
[2:57:04] have the legacy yard waste
[2:57:06] containers they will receive a
[2:57:11] new green container.
[2:57:12] This slide shows a visual
[2:57:16] representation representation
[2:57:16] of the progress of the roll
[2:57:17] out.
[2:57:17] You'll see the bar graphs on
[2:57:20] the left.
[2:57:21] The progress on the gray
[2:57:22] container rollout.
[2:57:25] We started in OCTOBER and
[2:57:26] essentially completed that
[2:57:26] process in MAY.
[2:57:31] As of there's a less than half
[2:57:32] a percent or so of data
[2:57:35] verification for some of
[2:57:36] the gray containers But
[2:57:38] essentially it's complete at
[2:57:42] 259,000 containers to nearly
[2:57:43] 2020 5000 customers at this
[2:57:43] point.
[2:57:44] And as I mentioned, we're
[2:57:44] verifying data for
[2:57:48] the remaining of the blue
[2:57:48] containers.
[2:57:49] We're at nearly 60% roll out.
[2:57:52] Do you see the teal shows,
[2:57:53] the actual and the blue shows
[2:57:56] the anticipated progress and
[2:57:57] scheduled to be complete by
[2:57:58] the end of SEPTEMBER?
[2:58:02] The customer portal we launched
[2:58:07] in in JULY of last year.
[2:58:07] It's a way for customers to
[2:58:08] engage in self-service to
[2:58:11] select their containers, to
[2:58:12] track their service levels,
[2:58:15] track their billing history and
[2:58:16] also to sign up for text
[2:58:20] message alerts or email alerts
[2:58:21] .
[2:58:21] Over 123,000 customers have
[2:58:24] created portal accounts about
[2:58:25] 55%.
[2:58:26] We designed it to be optional.
[2:58:26] We know some customers prefer
[2:58:29] to speak on the phone and that
[2:58:30] remains an option.
[2:58:31] It also allows customers to
[2:58:35] pledge donations.
[2:58:39] And as of this week around
[2:58:40] $63,000 has been raised by
[2:58:43] customers who not only are
[2:58:44] paying the fee for the first
[2:58:44] time but pledged to donate
[2:58:45] money to the financial
[2:58:46] assistance program to help
[2:58:48] their neighbors.
[2:58:48] I'll also note that customers
[2:58:49] can create a portal account at
[2:58:53] any time.
[2:58:54] They have benefits to doing so.
[2:58:58] The website San Diego dot gov
[2:58:59] slash trash has a 1 to 3 step
[2:59:00] process for how they can create
[2:59:03] an account and by doing so
[2:59:04] again they have the benefits of
[2:59:08] the ability to self-service for
[2:59:08] container replacement repairs,
[2:59:10] checking service or to view
[2:59:15] their history.
[2:59:16] So the financial assistance
[2:59:19] program I really want to
[2:59:20] describe this as a success
[2:59:20] story.
[2:59:21] We were throughout the outreach
[2:59:22] and engagement we heard
[2:59:25] concerns from residents about
[2:59:25] paying a fee for the very first
[2:59:26] time and we have reassured them
[2:59:29] that we are working on
[2:59:30] developing a financial
[2:59:31] assistance program to help
[2:59:34] those who would be most in
[2:59:34] need.
[2:59:35] So it was very meaningful for
[2:59:36] us that city council included
[2:59:39] in the budget for esd funding
[2:59:39] to launch this program in
[2:59:43] JANUARY We partnered with
[2:59:44] the Metropolitan Area Advisory
[2:59:45] Committee on Anti-Poverty of
[2:59:48] San Diego County, also known as
[2:59:49] Mack, a local nonprofit And I'm
[2:59:50] pleased to share that a couple
[2:59:52] of representatives from Mack
[2:59:53] are here with us today in
[2:59:53] the chamber.
[2:59:57] >> The program was designed
[2:59:58] based on either household
[2:59:58] income if household if
[3:00:02] customers meet income
[3:00:06] requirements or as a proxy if a
[3:00:07] member of the household is
[3:00:07] enrolled in an existing
[3:00:11] assistance program including
[3:00:12] Medi-Cal Health, Fresh CalWORKs
[3:00:13] or the Low Income Home Energy
[3:00:13] Assistance Program.
[3:00:16] If they apply they could be
[3:00:17] deemed they could qualify for
[3:00:18] the assistance program.
[3:00:21] The assistance amount was set
[3:00:21] at 50% off of the solid waste
[3:00:25] management fee or recognizing
[3:00:26] the concerns around charging on
[3:00:27] the tax roll.
[3:00:30] We added an additional
[3:00:31] criterion If a household was
[3:00:35] enrolled in a payment plan for
[3:00:36] past due property taxes which
[3:00:36] is an indicator of past
[3:00:40] inability to pay their property
[3:00:41] taxes, they would qualify for a
[3:00:41] 400% subsidy.
[3:00:46] And as of this week two two
[3:00:46] customers have met both
[3:00:47] criteria And so we have made
[3:00:50] use of both both the 50% off
[3:00:53] assistance as well as the 100%
[3:00:53] subsidy.
[3:00:58] I'll note for fiscal year 26
[3:00:58] assistance we had set a
[3:00:59] deadline of APRIL 30th and Mac
[3:01:02] is currently going through
[3:01:02] the fourth thousand
[3:01:03] applications that were
[3:01:03] received.
[3:01:04] We're still accepting
[3:01:07] applications now through next
[3:01:08] APRIL 30th for assistance
[3:01:11] towards the fiscal year 27 fee.
[3:01:16] And I'll note that as of as of
[3:01:16] now of the approximately 4000
[3:01:19] applications received, around
[3:01:20] 2400 have been fully approved
[3:01:20] and Mac is busy working through
[3:01:24] the remainder.
[3:01:24] Some things to look forward to
[3:01:25] for next year with with
[3:01:28] the program.
[3:01:29] As I noted in addition to this
[3:01:30] this program remains in our
[3:01:30] budget.
[3:01:33] In addition to the budgeted
[3:01:34] amount from the general fund
[3:01:37] we're also counting on
[3:01:38] the $64,000 in donations from
[3:01:38] customers.
[3:01:39] We've also based on feedback
[3:01:43] from the community we've added
[3:01:43] an additional proxy criterion
[3:01:44] if a household member is
[3:01:48] enrolled in the Jenny Care
[3:01:48] program they would also qualify
[3:01:49] for our program.
[3:01:52] That will also be updating
[3:01:53] the income requirements to
[3:01:53] $2,027.
[3:01:54] We've also streamlined
[3:01:57] enrollment re enrollment based
[3:01:58] on feedback.
[3:01:58] If a customer is eligible one
[3:02:02] year they would qualify for a
[3:02:03] second year assuming it's a
[3:02:03] still the same property owner.
[3:02:07] Similarly if they apply for
[3:02:08] the first time in 2027 they
[3:02:09] would have a streamline and a
[3:02:11] qualification for the year
[3:02:12] after that.
[3:02:12] For applications that are
[3:02:17] approved to the for AUGUST 10th
[3:02:17] they will see their reduction
[3:02:21] applied proactively to the bill
[3:02:22] that they see on their property
[3:02:25] tax bill after AUGUST 10th
[3:02:25] assuming funding remains.
[3:02:26] We will continue to accept
[3:02:29] applications on a rolling basis
[3:02:30] and at that point the payments
[3:02:35] will be provided as a rebate.
[3:02:36] We'll continue to hold clinics,
[3:02:36] in-person clinics to assist
[3:02:39] customers on how to enroll, how
[3:02:40] to apply for the program And
[3:02:43] the program will continue to be
[3:02:44] first come first serve.
[3:02:44] I'll note that the funding for
[3:02:48] the program had capacity for
[3:02:48] 7000 customers.
[3:02:49] We had 4000 applications this
[3:02:52] year so we did have capacity to
[3:02:53] fully cover the number of
[3:02:53] applications.
[3:02:58] We continue to spread the word
[3:02:59] about the program and we
[3:02:59] believe with through word of
[3:03:03] mouth and social media and
[3:03:03] targeted outreach more people
[3:03:04] will become aware.
[3:03:05] We continue to believe that
[3:03:07] the existing capacity is enough
[3:03:08] to meet the need of people who
[3:03:09] will apply.
[3:03:12] With that said, we are
[3:03:13] receiving weekly updates for
[3:03:14] Mac and as we get the data if
[3:03:17] we need to revisit or pivot we
[3:03:22] will be able to do so.
[3:03:22] Outreach and engagement.
[3:03:27] Mac I mentioned has done at
[3:03:31] this point 1515 in-person
[3:03:31] clinics the last fiscal year or
[3:03:35] sorry before APRIL 30th and
[3:03:35] seven more since APRIL 30th.
[3:03:36] For our part it's been
[3:03:37] important to us to continue to
[3:03:40] be available and present in
[3:03:41] the community to give updates
[3:03:41] similar to what you're hearing
[3:03:44] in this presentation.
[3:03:45] Talk about financial assistance
[3:03:46] and answer questions face to
[3:03:46] face.
[3:03:49] I've seen many of your staff.
[3:03:50] I've seen some of you in person
[3:03:51] yourselves as well at these
[3:03:54] meetings and we continue to be
[3:03:55] available to do so.
[3:03:56] As of now we've done about 25
[3:04:01] of these meetings with
[3:04:02] community planning group
[3:04:02] meetings, town councils and
[3:04:03] others.
[3:04:03] We talk about the container
[3:04:04] rollout potential systems and
[3:04:09] we answer the questions.
[3:04:10] So what's coming up with
[3:04:14] the adoption of the reduced
[3:04:15] fees for fiscal year 28 and 29?
[3:04:16] As we get out in the community
[3:04:20] we'll continue to amplify that
[3:04:20] decision and what it means for
[3:04:21] the timing of the reduced fees
[3:04:25] and what it means with regard
[3:04:25] to weekly just like
[3:04:26] the previous plans for weekly
[3:04:27] recycling and previous plans
[3:04:30] for the bulky item program.
[3:04:30] We'll also continue to
[3:04:34] emphasize that the plan was
[3:04:35] always when we developed
[3:04:36] deliver the new containers to
[3:04:39] ultimately phase out collection
[3:04:40] from the old black containers
[3:04:41] and the old dark blue
[3:04:41] containers.
[3:04:42] So we'll continue to
[3:04:43] communicate on that as well as
[3:04:49] customers who need additional
[3:04:49] containers engaging with them
[3:04:50] so they know how to do so
[3:04:53] whether it's ordering more or
[3:04:54] for those who have determined
[3:04:55] they don't need as much
[3:04:58] capacity how to downsize which
[3:04:59] could result in reduced fee for
[3:05:03] them going forward as well as
[3:05:04] emphasizing the availability of
[3:05:04] the financial assistance
[3:05:05] program.
[3:05:08] Our code compliance officers
[3:05:09] when they observe overflowing
[3:05:09] containers they will be
[3:05:12] engaging with customers leaving
[3:05:13] behind literature so customers
[3:05:16] know how to order a second
[3:05:17] container as well as if they
[3:05:17] continue to see the lingering
[3:05:21] black containers to remove
[3:05:21] those and engage with
[3:05:22] the customers.
[3:05:25] So if they need to order
[3:05:26] another one another gray one
[3:05:27] they know how to do so.
[3:05:30] We mentioned last JUNE that all
[3:05:31] of the new containers become
[3:05:31] equipped with rfid readers.
[3:05:35] We are working on the next
[3:05:36] stages of a pilot to test
[3:05:37] the technology of the hardware
[3:05:40] that will be attached to
[3:05:41] the trucks and that hardware
[3:05:42] when when installed would allow
[3:05:45] us to collect operational data
[3:05:46] to improve services over time
[3:05:50] as well as identify containers
[3:05:50] that are not where they are
[3:05:51] supposed to be.
[3:05:51] That's not the purpose of
[3:05:55] today's item but we will you
[3:05:56] can look forward to an item in
[3:05:56] the coming weeks or so on on
[3:06:00] that item.
[3:06:00] The fee schedule I won't go
[3:06:04] into too much detail.
[3:06:05] We've presented this a couple
[3:06:06] of weeks ago but I'll just
[3:06:09] highlight for those present.
[3:06:10] The second column are the fees
[3:06:14] that go into effect JULY 1st,
[3:06:14] 2026 of this year.
[3:06:15] You can see they are about a
[3:06:18] dollar more for the three main
[3:06:22] bundles but then I'll emphasize
[3:06:22] the latter two columns Those
[3:06:23] are the newly adopted reduced
[3:06:26] fees for fiscal year 28 in
[3:06:27] fiscal year 29.
[3:06:28] And one thing in particular I
[3:06:31] want to emphasize is
[3:06:32] the because the reduced fees
[3:06:32] are heavily subsidized by
[3:06:35] the recycling fund.
[3:06:36] The fee for an additional
[3:06:37] recycling bin for fiscal year
[3:06:40] 28 goes down to $6.01 per month
[3:06:44] for that fiscal year and then
[3:06:44] $6.56 per month for
[3:06:45] the following fiscal year.
[3:06:48] And this is important to note
[3:06:49] as some customers MAY have
[3:06:49] ordered fewer recycling
[3:06:53] containers anticipating weekly
[3:06:53] recycling.
[3:06:54] So I wanted to be sure to
[3:06:56] amplify the subsidized rate for
[3:07:01] a second recycling container.
[3:07:02] This next slide as well we
[3:07:07] presented a couple of weeks ago
[3:07:07] at the adoption of the reduced
[3:07:08] fees.
[3:07:08] I'll just note a couple of
[3:07:11] things.
[3:07:11] One, the second row shows
[3:07:15] the rate revenue.
[3:07:16] So looking at the third column
[3:07:17] you see the rate revenue goes
[3:07:20] down significantly when
[3:07:21] the fees are reduced.
[3:07:21] The next two rows show
[3:07:22] the subsidies.
[3:07:26] So you see the estimated
[3:07:26] subsidies from the recycling
[3:07:27] fund.
[3:07:30] And then the next row
[3:07:31] the subsidies from the general
[3:07:31] fund.
[3:07:32] I'll note these are these are
[3:07:32] estimates They will ultimately
[3:07:35] be subject to the budgeting
[3:07:36] process and actual expenditures
[3:07:37] and revenues leading up to
[3:07:40] those years.
[3:07:40] And then lastly the fund
[3:07:41] balance, you can see that we
[3:07:44] are one of the anticipated
[3:07:45] changes we made to our
[3:07:45] operation based on the reduced
[3:07:53] fees is not funding our to
[3:07:54] build up our fund balance.
[3:07:55] So you see if we remain in a
[3:07:57] negative position through
[3:07:57] the four year period.
[3:08:01] So next steps is following up
[3:08:02] the latter part of the hearing
[3:08:03] on the adoption of the report
[3:08:06] for the property tax bill
[3:08:10] Following this item between now
[3:08:10] and AUGUST 10th Mac will
[3:08:11] continue to review applications
[3:08:14] for fiscal Year 27 assistance.
[3:08:15] For those who will see
[3:08:15] the assistance in the form of a
[3:08:19] credit on their tax bill and
[3:08:19] then after AUGUST 10th they'll
[3:08:20] continue to review applications
[3:08:24] for rebate style And then by
[3:08:24] AUGUST 10th if City Council
[3:08:25] adopts the fee today the report
[3:08:29] today rather by AUGUST 10th
[3:08:29] will submit the report to
[3:08:30] the county and then between MAY
[3:08:34] and the SEPTEMBER will continue
[3:08:34] the rollout of the new
[3:08:38] recycling containers.
[3:08:39] >> And thank you for your time
[3:08:39] this afternoon.
[3:08:40] All right.
[3:08:40] Thank you for the work and
[3:08:42] the presentation.
[3:08:43] Deputy Clerk Please proceed
[3:08:48] with public comment.
[3:08:48] Thank you.
[3:08:48] Council PRESIDENT.
[3:08:50] We will begin with in-person
[3:08:51] public comment.
[3:08:56] Max Schmitt please come
[3:08:57] forward.
[3:08:59] You'll have two minutes to
[3:09:08] speak.
[3:09:08] Hi.
[3:09:09] I just wanted to say that
[3:09:13] increasing the fees increase
[3:09:17] for the monthly fees that
[3:09:18] homeowners pay for their trash
[3:09:22] and recycling services to me
[3:09:23] seems unnecessary.
[3:09:27] I believe that homeowners
[3:09:27] should not have to pay such
[3:09:31] high fees for trash and
[3:09:31] recycling.
[3:09:36] I believe that if
[3:09:37] the government was cut out of
[3:09:37] the situation and the homeowner
[3:09:41] could pay the trash or
[3:09:46] recycling company directly, it
[3:09:46] could be cheaper.
[3:09:50] And I think that property taxes
[3:09:51] could go down and I think
[3:09:55] property taxes are too high for
[3:10:00] people And I do not support
[3:10:00] giving the city of San Diego
[3:10:05] any more money.
[3:10:06] And it has to do with many
[3:10:06] reasons.
[3:10:10] And one is because of
[3:10:15] the underground hidden Catholic
[3:10:15] genocide that needs that hasn't
[3:10:16] been addressed.
[3:10:20] And I just also wanted to say
[3:10:21] that there's a one of the sides
[3:10:24] and raised fees says that are
[3:10:28] recycled containers are going
[3:10:29] to be repurposed into other
[3:10:30] plastic products and they tried
[3:10:33] to make it an environmental
[3:10:34] issue.
[3:10:35] And I just wanted to say there
[3:10:35] seems to be a connection and
[3:10:38] random tax increases and trying
[3:10:39] to help the environment where
[3:10:39] it seems like an age old
[3:10:44] liberal strategy straight out
[3:10:44] of the liberal playbook to
[3:10:45] throw in some slides about
[3:10:48] the environment when they
[3:10:49] increase, when they try to
[3:10:50] increase taxes I'm going to say
[3:10:53] this tax increase on property
[3:10:54] is a big deal and that I don't
[3:10:55] want the I don't think
[3:10:59] the climate should be used as a
[3:10:59] scapegoat to tax people more.
[3:11:00] And I will honestly say that I
[3:11:04] believe that Satan MAY be
[3:11:09] telling liberals to exaggerate
[3:11:09] the climate to try to tax
[3:11:10] people more.
[3:11:10] >> Thank you.
[3:11:11] That does conclude your time.
[3:11:20] Allegedly Audra definitely will
[3:11:21] use the climate to tax people
[3:11:25] more.
[3:11:26] This is interesting Why does
[3:11:29] the negative balance get
[3:11:30] smaller to 2029?
[3:11:30] >> That's interesting.
[3:11:31] I don't know if I'm reading it
[3:11:34] right and then saying there
[3:11:39] will be reductions through that
[3:11:39] year.
[3:11:40] I mean really because I feel
[3:11:41] like you guys are going to come
[3:11:43] back to us for more money at
[3:11:44] some point because it's not
[3:11:45] going to be enough.
[3:11:45] And again, you talk about
[3:11:49] people receiving trash cans.
[3:11:49] No, they're paying for them.
[3:11:50] Let's be real.
[3:11:54] They're forced to pay for those
[3:11:54] even if they don't need them.
[3:11:55] And the fact that you're saying
[3:11:59] you're going to recycle them I
[3:11:59] mean we'll see about that.
[3:12:00] I'm sure that's another racket
[3:12:04] that's going to be you know,
[3:12:04] engaged in because I mean
[3:12:05] anything you can make money off
[3:12:08] of people are like jumping on
[3:12:08] that.
[3:12:09] So I guess I was a little
[3:12:13] confused as well about Prop 218
[3:12:13] unfortunately.
[3:12:14] I guess it's like you guys can
[3:12:18] sit here and raise the fee as
[3:12:19] much as you want and as long as
[3:12:20] nobody's here to protest it
[3:12:23] doesn't matter Or so it's like
[3:12:24] oh so many loopholes that you
[3:12:28] know, get taken advantage of
[3:12:32] when people are you know,
[3:12:33] having to pay more money And
[3:12:33] these rfid chips I mean come
[3:12:37] on, You're like we're
[3:12:37] collecting debt.
[3:12:38] I mean the amount of data
[3:12:42] that's collected on people is
[3:12:43] just so insane, especially when
[3:12:44] these data centers like they're
[3:12:47] going to be taking all our
[3:12:48] fresh water.
[3:12:48] How cool is that?
[3:12:49] I mean are you guys excited for
[3:12:52] us to like figure out how ice
[3:12:53] is going to provide us with
[3:12:53] more water?
[3:12:56] Probably that'll be neat.
[3:12:57] But yeah, I just this is very
[3:13:01] sad because people should have
[3:13:02] the ability to say what they
[3:13:06] want as far as the tax goes and
[3:13:07] yet here we are again You're
[3:13:08] not going to have enough
[3:13:08] protests And so this is going
[3:13:12] to move forward And I'd like to
[3:13:13] know I mean what are you doing
[3:13:13] Because this was the million
[3:13:17] dollar lawsuit that made you
[3:13:17] reduce the fee.
[3:13:18] Are you going to give people a
[3:13:19] credit for what they paid in
[3:13:22] the interim of, you know, your
[3:13:22] mistake?
[3:13:23] >> Thank you.
[3:13:23] That does conclude your time.
[3:13:27] I have that That concludes
[3:13:28] in-person public comment.
[3:13:28] I have started the five minute
[3:13:32] timer in the committee room.
[3:13:33] We will now turn to the virtual
[3:13:35] queue in which there are
[3:13:36] currently three participants
[3:13:37] requesting to speak.
[3:13:39] We will begin with Hector.
[3:13:44] Please begin.
[3:13:44] Thanks guys.
[3:13:45] Yeah this is a different
[3:13:49] another example of a city not
[3:13:49] knowing what's going on where
[3:13:53] there was 2500 people getting
[3:13:54] their trash picked up that
[3:13:58] shouldn't have got it done.
[3:13:59] So they just found that out
[3:13:59] when they started doing
[3:14:03] the cans taken up some guy's
[3:14:04] apartment that should have had
[3:14:07] a commercial guy doing it.
[3:14:07] So this is probably not
[3:14:08] the only thing.
[3:14:09] There's other places in
[3:14:12] the city where they're giving
[3:14:13] out free services or they're
[3:14:17] giving out special deals to
[3:14:18] people that no one knows about
[3:14:18] yet.
[3:14:22] But this is another example.
[3:14:22] And then to set the record
[3:14:26] straight to build trust in
[3:14:27] the community, why don't you
[3:14:28] pull all the parking meters of
[3:14:32] Balboa Park now so we can have
[3:14:32] free parking over the summer to
[3:14:36] go visit Balboa Park and stuff
[3:14:37] That would be like show us a
[3:14:41] good sign of building trust in
[3:14:42] the community.
[3:14:46] Just just apologize to
[3:14:46] everybody for putting them
[3:14:50] through And you want to start
[3:14:51] you want to turn over a new
[3:14:55] leaf and go for it and then
[3:14:56] let's see there was one other
[3:14:57] thing I wanted to do.
[3:14:58] Yeah, you're going to charge
[3:15:01] them for the Oh yeah, the solid
[3:15:07] waste we got to get a solid
[3:15:07] waste factory down the t on a
[3:15:10] river and do some waste removal
[3:15:15] down there and I think that
[3:15:16] the city should focus on
[3:15:17] the t12 river sewer plant
[3:15:20] upgrades big time upgrade down
[3:15:21] there with solar use some of
[3:15:26] that recycle old stuff down
[3:15:27] there that that absorb all
[3:15:31] the sewer gas and everything
[3:15:32] Anyway it's going to be it's
[3:15:33] going to be a good summer.
[3:15:36] It's going to be hot and that
[3:15:37] stuff's going to smell terrible
[3:15:40] for the kids.
[3:15:41] So that's that's should be our
[3:15:42] number one focus.
[3:15:42] Okay.
[3:15:45] Thank you.
[3:15:46] Thank you.
[3:15:47] We'll go to our next speaker
[3:15:51] with a caller What the last
[3:16:01] four digits 8700 Please begin.
[3:16:01] Thank you, Joy.
[3:16:05] Senator, I just have a bachelor
[3:16:05] of Arts and ends.
[3:16:10] Thank you for the update esd
[3:16:10] Very very good update.
[3:16:11] Thank you.
[3:16:15] Also for our great financial
[3:16:16] assistance program that you're
[3:16:19] you've been rolling out.
[3:16:20] It sounds very successful still
[3:16:25] available and just thank you so
[3:16:26] much I appreciate the recycling
[3:16:31] of the container and I thank
[3:16:32] you for improved line Thank you
[3:16:36] everybody for improved
[3:16:36] alignment with Measure b in a
[3:16:41] question for you esd would you
[3:16:42] and Director Kirby Brady
[3:16:47] discuss adding qualitative data
[3:16:51] to the metrics that would be
[3:16:52] really super for you to explore
[3:16:53] that innovative idea?
[3:16:57] It's not really innovative.
[3:16:57] It's being used throughout a
[3:16:58] lot of other different areas in
[3:17:02] government, in business and so
[3:17:03] forth.
[3:17:03] So let's see what is this We
[3:17:08] can always improve customer
[3:17:09] relations right and community
[3:17:09] outreach and engagement.
[3:17:13] So any efforts that you can
[3:17:14] approve to make those better
[3:17:14] would be absolutely super duper
[3:17:19] love the customer donations.
[3:17:20] >> Thank you Customers Whoever
[3:17:23] you are you get five stars.
[3:17:24] I think it's up to $67,000.
[3:17:29] So thank you and thank you sd g
[3:17:34] and e, I mean I don't get it
[3:17:35] but if there's an opportunity
[3:17:36] to thank them for caring about
[3:17:40] the community, let's do it.
[3:17:40] So their care program I guess
[3:17:45] can be added to our quote They
[3:17:46] can qualify if they qualify for
[3:17:47] our programs that program can
[3:17:47] be added to it.
[3:17:51] So I feel really, really good
[3:17:52] and I want to be sure and thank
[3:17:53] them for any little steps big
[3:17:57] steps.
[3:17:58] We want some big steps if any.
[3:17:59] But thank you for that.
[3:18:03] And again this is a great item
[3:18:03] We've made great project
[3:18:08] progress lessons learned all
[3:18:08] thank you.
[3:18:09] Our next speaker is Toni.
[3:18:19] Please begin your comments.
[3:18:20] Toni please please unmute and
[3:18:25] begin your comments.
[3:18:26] >> Can you hear me?
[3:18:26] Yes we can hear you.
[3:18:27] Please begin.
[3:18:31] Thank you.
[3:18:32] Hey I am in support of this
[3:18:32] measure.
[3:18:37] I think that it's necessary.
[3:18:38] I think we need to have some
[3:18:38] type of crash service.
[3:18:42] I would love to see putting in
[3:18:43] more of an effort to create
[3:18:43] some some conversations.
[3:18:44] I know that we do have like
[3:18:49] green compost at some areas
[3:18:49] like the Mira mesa landfill for
[3:18:50] example.
[3:18:50] But I know that we don't have
[3:18:54] any actual compost landfills
[3:18:54] that are designed for like
[3:19:00] biodegradable plates and cups
[3:19:01] and utensils and things like
[3:19:01] that.
[3:19:02] Or please correct me if I'm
[3:19:06] wrong whenever y'all respond to
[3:19:06] these comments, please please
[3:19:07] let me know if there is a
[3:19:08] compostable site because as far
[3:19:11] as I know like when you pick up
[3:19:12] compostable plates or utensils
[3:19:12] or whatever even napkins they
[3:19:17] all say on the packaging itself
[3:19:18] they say only it's only
[3:19:18] disposable or only compostable
[3:19:23] within compostable landfill
[3:19:23] facilities.
[3:19:24] I have not I don't know of any
[3:19:29] that exist here in San Diego
[3:19:30] and that would be a huge
[3:19:31] incentive for people within
[3:19:31] the sustainable community and
[3:19:35] for waste at large.
[3:19:36] If we can if we can eliminate
[3:19:37] the mass amount of plastics
[3:19:42] that we're using, we would be
[3:19:42] so much better off if we could
[3:19:43] create some type of ordinances
[3:19:47] requiring packaging on foods
[3:19:52] and on goods to use alternative
[3:19:53] packaging because I mean we've
[3:19:54] been beholden to the DuPont
[3:19:59] monopoly on plastics for far
[3:19:59] too long and there's way too
[3:20:04] many alternatives that exist
[3:20:05] for packaging including like
[3:20:10] amp which has been declassified
[3:20:11] .
[3:20:11] It's now available for
[3:20:12] commercial use.
[3:20:17] It's now not scheduled as like
[3:20:18] a narcotic as it previously was
[3:20:22] as of 2019 the end of the first
[3:20:26] Trump administration was one of
[3:20:26] the things we did idly on his
[3:20:27] way out legalizing hemp which
[3:20:32] was super cool and really
[3:20:32] unexpected.
[3:20:33] >> Thank you Anyway, conclude
[3:20:33] your time.
[3:20:34] Thank you.
[3:20:38] That concludes the public
[3:20:39] testimony on item 330.
[3:20:39] All right.
[3:20:40] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.
[3:20:44] A reminder this is an
[3:20:44] information item No motions
[3:20:45] required but I'll turn it over
[3:20:46] to council member for questions
[3:20:49] and comments and we'll start
[3:20:50] with Councilmember Rivera.
[3:20:51] Thank you, Health PRESIDENT.
[3:20:51] Thanks for the presentation,
[3:20:55] Jeremy and for all the work
[3:21:00] that led up to this.
[3:21:01] A couple of questions.
[3:21:02] One and this is for you and or
[3:21:07] Jordan the fund balance that
[3:21:08] was was shown there.
[3:21:13] What are the effects of that?
[3:21:19] >> So when we think of
[3:21:20] the question council member
[3:21:20] when we crossed the threshold
[3:21:21] of a fiscal year with a
[3:21:22] negative balance we do have
[3:21:25] the ability to pay that
[3:21:26] enterprise fund a one day loan
[3:21:31] to cross the threshold at a non
[3:21:32] zero and then the first day of
[3:21:33] the next fiscal year to pay it
[3:21:33] back.
[3:21:38] So there's an ability to cross
[3:21:38] the fiscal year with negative
[3:21:43] ultimately as we adopted
[3:21:44] the fee last year the goal was
[3:21:45] to build up a reserve fund.
[3:21:50] We are postponing that at this
[3:21:51] time but long term that is
[3:21:51] something we can do.
[3:21:52] Does it Ultimately we would
[3:21:53] want to be in a position with
[3:21:56] with a positive balance.
[3:21:56] I turned over to Jordan to get
[3:21:57] more.
[3:22:01] Yeah, I mean it mostly did It
[3:22:02] mostly starts to be a big
[3:22:03] budgeting problem If you have a
[3:22:03] lot of on balances with a
[3:22:07] negative fund balance which is
[3:22:07] why we typically try to
[3:22:08] highlight these things if we're
[3:22:09] seeing many of them.
[3:22:13] Jeremy is correct as far as esd
[3:22:14] goes because he is he also runs
[3:22:14] two other large enterprise
[3:22:15] funds.
[3:22:18] They currently are projected to
[3:22:19] have positive cash balances So
[3:22:20] within esd you will be fine.
[3:22:24] But again it's not a good
[3:22:25] practice.
[3:22:25] The original cost of service
[3:22:26] did anticipate building up a
[3:22:32] reserve over a number of years
[3:22:32] in order to adjust to
[3:22:33] fluctuations that MAY or MAY
[3:22:34] not happen in between cost of
[3:22:34] service studies.
[3:22:37] But at this point right now
[3:22:38] given where we are with
[3:22:38] the fees, the settlements,
[3:22:39] etc., the best course of action
[3:22:43] at this point is just to manage
[3:22:43] the fund where it is because
[3:22:44] otherwise you would be
[3:22:49] requiring the general fund to
[3:22:49] be spending more money into
[3:22:50] the fund in order to try to get
[3:22:51] out of that negative fund
[3:22:54] balance quicker than what's
[3:22:55] currently projected.
[3:22:55] Right.
[3:23:00] Okay.
[3:23:01] And I'll note too.
[3:23:02] So originally the plan was for
[3:23:07] the fund to Jeremy correct me
[3:23:07] if I'm wrong it would have
[3:23:08] gotten out of negative balance
[3:23:12] around what your 2 or 3?
[3:23:13] Correct.
[3:23:13] Yeah.
[3:23:14] So there was a plan to get
[3:23:14] there for it.
[3:23:15] This might have just been
[3:23:17] changed.
[3:23:23] Okay.
[3:23:29] Will it be a problem?
[3:23:30] It would it would be a bigger
[3:23:31] problem if the fund balance was
[3:23:31] going the other way.
[3:23:34] So one of the reasons why
[3:23:35] you're actually seeing that
[3:23:36] going into a but it's going
[3:23:41] smaller is because a lot of
[3:23:41] that is the general fund paying
[3:23:42] back for costs that were
[3:23:45] incurred but not reimbursed in
[3:23:45] the first year If it was
[3:23:46] getting larger perpetually
[3:23:47] larger that would be a problem
[3:23:51] that you would see because then
[3:23:52] you don't have a plan at which
[3:23:53] you there would be no plan in
[3:23:56] order to to bring it back in at
[3:23:57] that point you would need to
[3:23:58] start taking financial actions
[3:23:59] to bring it back into positive
[3:24:03] balance which would either
[3:24:04] require more general fund
[3:24:04] subsidies or higher fees and a
[3:24:05] subsequent cost of service
[3:24:09] study.
[3:24:10] Thank you.
[3:24:10] We've talked about this a
[3:24:11] little bit but I want to make
[3:24:15] sure I drill down just a little
[3:24:15] bit more.
[3:24:21] Some of services that are
[3:24:22] provided or planned to be
[3:24:28] provided are now that the plan
[3:24:28] is scaled back.
[3:24:32] Are there and there's
[3:24:33] the services that residents can
[3:24:38] receive and experience as a
[3:24:39] result of those operations.
[3:24:40] And then there's the diversion
[3:24:44] from our landfill.
[3:24:45] There's climate action goals
[3:24:50] that we're pursuing.
[3:24:51] Are there plans in place or is
[3:24:56] there planning happening to
[3:25:02] pursue those goals to reduce
[3:25:03] what ends up in the landfill in
[3:25:04] a different way than what we
[3:25:08] we'd planned for?
[3:25:09] >> Yes.
[3:25:09] Councilmember one One example
[3:25:10] is investment of some of our
[3:25:15] recycling staff from our waste
[3:25:16] reduction division to be
[3:25:21] stopped at the landfill itself
[3:25:21] at the gate that help identify
[3:25:22] loads of waste that is heading
[3:25:27] towards the face of
[3:25:28] the landfill but to engage with
[3:25:28] them to divert what's
[3:25:33] recyclable from that load.
[3:25:34] >> Additionally, as I mentioned
[3:25:35] in my remarks, additional
[3:25:39] outreach to help customers
[3:25:40] understand that for a second
[3:25:45] recycling container is more
[3:25:45] affordable than it was last
[3:25:46] year and make sure they know
[3:25:46] that.
[3:25:50] So if they need to order a
[3:25:51] second recycling container they
[3:25:52] can do so at a subsidized rate.
[3:25:52] Okay.
[3:25:57] I appreciate that And
[3:25:58] the reason I keep asking what
[3:25:59] this part is and we're going to
[3:25:59] continue our conversations at
[3:26:02] this environment committee and
[3:26:03] hopefully at the full council
[3:26:08] is the closure of the landfill
[3:26:09] is it's not a small deal for
[3:26:09] the city.
[3:26:13] It's a really, really big one
[3:26:14] on a variety of fronts.
[3:26:14] And so I want to make sure that
[3:26:19] we're doing everything we can
[3:26:20] to push that out or at least
[3:26:22] not accelerate cliff that we're
[3:26:29] running toward.
[3:26:29] Okay.
[3:26:35] Is there anything that you are
[3:26:35] not planning to do but you
[3:26:40] would like to be able to do
[3:26:47] that doesn't involve the weekly
[3:26:48] recycling or something that was
[3:26:49] already planned for?
[3:26:49] I don't know if that makes
[3:26:50] sense Or are there other
[3:26:53] strategies or tactics that are
[3:26:54] being considered as a way of
[3:26:54] again either pushing out
[3:26:56] the cliff or at least not
[3:26:57] accelerating our approach to
[3:27:09] the cliff?
[3:27:10] The clean up division helps
[3:27:15] with some of the community
[3:27:15] cleanup events that is a
[3:27:16] general fund funded division.
[3:27:17] So to the extent that that
[3:27:21] division had more funding
[3:27:21] available they could be more
[3:27:22] available to do those community
[3:27:26] cleanups And when our staff are
[3:27:27] directly involved in cleanup
[3:27:28] events it's easier to divert to
[3:27:28] separate segregate recyclable
[3:27:33] materials versus materials that
[3:27:34] are intended for the landfill
[3:27:34] itself.
[3:27:34] Yeah.
[3:27:35] And just to kind of give it to
[3:27:39] you if you can to reiterate to
[3:27:44] all of us from a financial
[3:27:45] perspective the impacts of are
[3:27:50] closing sooner rather than
[3:27:50] later or being able to push
[3:27:51] that out.
[3:27:52] >> I mean it's hard to quantify
[3:27:57] at this point But I will tell
[3:27:58] you as is so Miramar as it
[3:27:58] stands right now is
[3:28:02] the cheapest place to deposit
[3:28:03] solid waste and go to recycling
[3:28:04] to do those things.
[3:28:04] And the reason why it's
[3:28:08] the cheapest is because it's
[3:28:09] managed by the city.
[3:28:09] Right.
[3:28:10] So this would be similar to you
[3:28:10] know, if the city was able to
[3:28:14] manage its water to a
[3:28:15] wholesaler as opposed to having
[3:28:16] a different entity charge you
[3:28:16] to do different things.
[3:28:21] So to that end, if Miramar goes
[3:28:21] away as being the place where
[3:28:22] waste could go to be deposited
[3:28:26] and the city does have to start
[3:28:27] going to other private
[3:28:28] landfills which I believe it's
[3:28:32] only private landfills that are
[3:28:32] remaining in the county At that
[3:28:33] point you now have to pay
[3:28:37] either their disposal fees
[3:28:38] which will make the cost for
[3:28:39] collection services go up which
[3:28:40] will then require either higher
[3:28:43] fees on homeowners or
[3:28:44] additional general fund
[3:28:44] dollars.
[3:28:45] There's also the options to do
[3:28:50] the transfer station But again
[3:28:51] the transfer station just
[3:28:51] because it's extra steps it
[3:28:52] could be cheaper than
[3:28:56] the landfills directly but it
[3:28:56] still would not be the same as
[3:28:57] just being able to utilize me
[3:28:58] or mine the way it's currently
[3:29:02] being utilized.
[3:29:03] >> And then there's the tipping
[3:29:04] fees that we want And
[3:29:08] the tipping fee is what you for
[3:29:09] collection services Even though
[3:29:10] it's city of San Diego dumping
[3:29:11] a city San Diego site pays to
[3:29:15] dump at the Miramar land
[3:29:15] tipping fees that we received
[3:29:16] from from other entities as
[3:29:16] well correct?
[3:29:20] >> So yeah so those will come
[3:29:20] up We'll have to figure out a
[3:29:21] way to run the landfill.
[3:29:22] One landfills run other
[3:29:26] operations without receiving
[3:29:27] tipping fees both from the city
[3:29:27] of San Diego and from outside
[3:29:28] entities as well because
[3:29:29] they'll no longer be a landfill
[3:29:32] to operate.
[3:29:33] I appreciate this and I know
[3:29:34] we've talked to this a bit.
[3:29:34] I just I keep hammering this
[3:29:38] part because I think there was
[3:29:39] a perception that we could
[3:29:39] recycling was a nice to have
[3:29:44] and I suppose it was from a
[3:29:45] perspective of it's not
[3:29:46] something that the city needed
[3:29:51] to do today necessarily and
[3:29:51] it's not necessarily something
[3:29:52] that residents all needed on a
[3:29:53] weekly basis but it served a
[3:29:56] greater purpose that has
[3:29:57] significant environmental and
[3:30:02] economic impacts for the city
[3:30:02] over the long term.
[3:30:03] And so as with everything that
[3:30:08] we deal with, there are no easy
[3:30:09] outs And you know, not doing
[3:30:14] weekly recycling solves for one
[3:30:15] problem and it creates others
[3:30:16] as well And we just need to be
[3:30:16] eyes wide open about that.
[3:30:21] And I appreciate the creativity
[3:30:21] of of esd on how we're going to
[3:30:26] approach that.
[3:30:27] I think it's going to require a
[3:30:27] group effort.
[3:30:28] I remember a few years ago I
[3:30:32] asked the ways in which in my
[3:30:33] mail services was kind of boxed
[3:30:38] in by not being able to recover
[3:30:39] cost And I actually got a
[3:30:39] really interesting response to
[3:30:40] that question which was in
[3:30:45] certain ways requires the city
[3:30:46] to be more creative because
[3:30:50] there the ability to recover
[3:30:51] costs just wasn't there.
[3:30:52] And so it looks like you're
[3:30:52] leaning back into that
[3:30:57] creativity that we needed to
[3:30:57] use in the past.
[3:30:58] But the General General Fund
[3:31:06] still has in a period
[3:31:07] significant costs I think as a
[3:31:08] result of this.
[3:31:08] Last thing I want to say is
[3:31:12] thank you again for
[3:31:12] the outreach and the really
[3:31:13] intentional effort there to to
[3:31:18] make sure that folks know about
[3:31:18] know about the rebate or
[3:31:19] the refund programs or
[3:31:24] the discount programs.
[3:31:25] That was very important to us.
[3:31:26] That was important to us before
[3:31:31] we ever got to the program up
[3:31:32] and running and will continue
[3:31:32] to be important to me as well.
[3:31:33] So thank you again for
[3:31:33] the work.
[3:31:37] Thank you for the time.
[3:31:37] Council PRESIDENT.
[3:31:38] All right.
[3:31:38] Thank you, Councilmember
[3:31:39] Talavera.
[3:31:39] We'll go next to Councilmember
[3:31:40] Moreno.
[3:31:42] Thank you And thank you for
[3:31:42] the presentation.
[3:31:43] I want to start off by thinking
[3:31:48] of the environmental Services
[3:31:48] Department for the incredible
[3:31:49] work you guys do day in, day
[3:31:54] out This past MARCH I had
[3:31:55] the pleasure of joining city
[3:31:56] staff for a ride along during a
[3:32:01] trash pickup day in District
[3:32:01] eight and the A.T.M. At
[3:32:05] the Miramar Landfill Operations
[3:32:06] station.
[3:32:07] Pretty impressive piece of work
[3:32:12] that we have there in the city
[3:32:12] of San Diego.
[3:32:13] I think the yard has
[3:32:17] the collection services,
[3:32:18] the division, the container
[3:32:19] management program and
[3:32:23] the trash pickup for truck
[3:32:24] maintenance crews.
[3:32:24] We exited the operation station
[3:32:30] and what really astounded me
[3:32:30] was the hundreds of trucks that
[3:32:36] are housed at the station just
[3:32:36] and just how everybody left in
[3:32:37] just it was almost like a
[3:32:38] beautiful symphony of trash
[3:32:43] trucks going out And I was able
[3:32:43] to ride one of the trucks
[3:32:48] driven by MR. Enrique Rojas,
[3:32:49] also known as Kiki.
[3:32:49] MR. Rojas has been a sanitation
[3:32:50] worker for the city of San
[3:32:54] Diego for almost 40 years and
[3:32:55] he was kind enough to share his
[3:33:00] experience with me as we drove
[3:33:01] south to the southern part of
[3:33:01] the district.
[3:33:05] And one of the things that I
[3:33:06] was just taken aback by is that
[3:33:11] these folks are really
[3:33:12] sometimes for a lot of
[3:33:13] residents their number one
[3:33:16] people rate the number one
[3:33:17] person that they first connect
[3:33:21] with in the city of San Diego.
[3:33:22] The love and admiration from
[3:33:23] the kids was also really quite
[3:33:29] impressive And MR. Rojas just
[3:33:29] really went out of his way to
[3:33:34] accommodate every question,
[3:33:35] every comment.
[3:33:35] So just kudos to him and I'm
[3:33:41] sure I was probably a thorn on
[3:33:42] his back for the morning But
[3:33:43] nonetheless it was it was quite
[3:33:47] the experience.
[3:33:48] We were in the community of
[3:33:53] Nestor and unbeknownst to me we
[3:33:54] were for a time we were being
[3:33:55] followed by another vehicle
[3:33:59] that was collecting the empty
[3:33:59] containers.
[3:34:00] So this allowed me to see
[3:34:04] firsthand just
[3:34:05] the complications of this
[3:34:06] rollout of such a just a
[3:34:11] massive scale But it was
[3:34:11] impressive to see how you know,
[3:34:12] obviously they work together
[3:34:13] and and how complicated this
[3:34:16] endeavor was Truly complicated.
[3:34:17] My ride along ended with with
[3:34:22] the Otay landfill in Chula
[3:34:23] Vista and just the impressive
[3:34:24] work that goes there I believe
[3:34:28] it's owned by Republic if I'm
[3:34:29] not mistaken.
[3:34:30] So I was able to see firsthand
[3:34:35] what the esd men and women do
[3:34:36] daily and it's just incredible
[3:34:36] to witness the magnitude of
[3:34:40] work that happens behind
[3:34:41] the scenes of a service that I
[3:34:42] think often goes unnoticed.
[3:34:42] So I'm just extremely grateful
[3:34:48] to all the sd everybody in sd
[3:34:48] because I know it's not just
[3:34:49] the folks speaking up.
[3:34:53] It's like I said, it's like a
[3:34:53] symphony.
[3:34:54] It was grueling and it was
[3:34:59] demanding just but the one
[3:34:59] thing that it was very clear to
[3:35:04] me is it's so it's such a it's
[3:35:11] such a it's something like I
[3:35:12] said that we don't think about
[3:35:12] And thanks to you guys we don't
[3:35:13] have to think about it.
[3:35:16] It's just so invaluable to
[3:35:16] the quality of life.
[3:35:17] I quickly understood if these
[3:35:22] men and women decide not to
[3:35:23] show up one day or even two it
[3:35:24] would just be super detrimental
[3:35:28] to the city workers.
[3:35:28] So just wanted to say recognize
[3:35:29] them and thank them for
[3:35:33] everything that they do.
[3:35:34] Moving on to the updates
[3:35:39] regarding the implementation, I
[3:35:40] want to note that this is
[3:35:41] obviously it's important to me
[3:35:45] that residents receive access
[3:35:45] to financial aid.
[3:35:47] How many financial aid clinics
[3:35:53] have we helped stop Checking my
[3:35:57] notes I believe it's 22 with
[3:35:58] six since the APRIL 30th
[3:36:01] deadline for fiscal year 26
[3:36:02] assistance and they've
[3:36:03] continued after that And we're
[3:36:03] currently coordinating with
[3:36:08] macc to identify dates for
[3:36:08] additional clinics for that And
[3:36:09] these are in-person right?
[3:36:12] The 22 they are in person
[3:36:13] Wonderful.
[3:36:13] >> And how many have been held
[3:36:17] in District eight I believe it
[3:36:18] was four would double check my
[3:36:19] notes but my recollection was
[3:36:21] it was it was four.
[3:36:22] Got you.
[3:36:22] And at what times have these
[3:36:23] clinics been held?
[3:36:27] They've been approximately
[3:36:31] again MR. Memory around 930 in
[3:36:32] the morning to 330 in
[3:36:32] the afternoon give or take.
[3:36:33] >> And I do appreciate
[3:36:37] the effort that esd has put to
[3:36:38] reaching out to the community.
[3:36:38] I am concerned regarding
[3:36:43] the times that we've chosen to
[3:36:43] hold these clinics and this
[3:36:48] would be a follow not a follow
[3:36:49] up but a critique if you will.
[3:36:49] I represent a working class
[3:36:54] community where folks often
[3:36:54] have just more than one job and
[3:36:55] I do find it problematic that
[3:36:56] these clinics are not being
[3:37:00] held past 530 or even on
[3:37:00] weekends when residents are
[3:37:05] more likely to attend.
[3:37:06] I'd also like to ask given that
[3:37:06] the program can support
[3:37:09] approximately 7000 customers
[3:37:14] and only 3897 applications have
[3:37:14] been received right Not
[3:37:18] accepted Receive That's correct
[3:37:19] .
[3:37:19] What target outreach tactics
[3:37:20] are being considered for fiscal
[3:37:23] year 27 to increase
[3:37:24] the participation And out of
[3:37:28] those?
[3:37:28] So that's one question.
[3:37:29] And the second question is out
[3:37:33] of those 3897, how much how
[3:37:34] many have been accepted?
[3:37:35] So I'll take the last one
[3:37:35] first.
[3:37:39] So far around 2300 have been
[3:37:43] fully approved of the of
[3:37:43] the nearly 4004.
[3:37:44] I thank you for the feedback on
[3:37:44] the timing.
[3:37:48] I'll note last year one of
[3:37:48] the constraints with
[3:37:49] involvement of our staff is
[3:37:53] that the financial assistance
[3:37:54] program is general fund funded
[3:37:59] and our program was funded by
[3:37:59] the rate payers.
[3:38:00] Now that will be entering a
[3:38:03] subsidized program with general
[3:38:03] fund we might have
[3:38:04] the opportunity to explore
[3:38:05] whether staff could become
[3:38:09] involved in either providing
[3:38:10] more assistance or even
[3:38:10] attending more clinics
[3:38:11] something we can look into now
[3:38:14] that we're not 1% but we have
[3:38:15] Sorry you've made me think of
[3:38:19] another question We have enough
[3:38:19] money for up to 7000 folks.
[3:38:20] That's correct.
[3:38:24] So that isn't a question.
[3:38:24] And on that note, on
[3:38:28] the targeted outreach we've one
[3:38:29] one item we've done is reached
[3:38:30] out to the county to see if
[3:38:31] there's any information they
[3:38:33] could share either of those
[3:38:34] folks who MAY have in the past
[3:38:35] had inability to pay their
[3:38:39] property taxes on time.
[3:38:40] Also if they'd be willing to
[3:38:41] pass along our information if
[3:38:44] they couldn't share
[3:38:44] the addresses directly.
[3:38:45] And then additionally we've
[3:38:45] been coordinating with
[3:38:49] community based organizations
[3:38:49] and to invite them to pass
[3:38:50] along information on
[3:38:50] the program to their
[3:38:51] communities they serve in their
[3:38:54] networks.
[3:38:54] Okay.
[3:38:55] And that is what that's
[3:39:00] the tactic to get more folks to
[3:39:00] apply or yeah I guess at this
[3:39:04] point to just apply right?
[3:39:04] Yes.
[3:39:05] And the other thing I would
[3:39:07] note is one of the feedback we
[3:39:08] received in the first year was
[3:39:13] rather than having people apply
[3:39:13] from scratch in the second
[3:39:14] year, can we streamline so that
[3:39:16] if they qualified from one year
[3:39:17] if they remain the property
[3:39:17] owner of that property have it
[3:39:21] be two year increments And what
[3:39:22] that means is for the second
[3:39:23] year we're not starting from
[3:39:23] zero.
[3:39:27] We're essentially starting from
[3:39:27] and then we can build from
[3:39:28] there 2300 correct.
[3:39:31] Which would be okay And there
[3:39:32] is an opening and a closing
[3:39:32] right?
[3:39:33] When is the opening and closing
[3:39:36] of these applications for
[3:39:39] the fiscal year 24 fiscal year
[3:39:40] 26.
[3:39:40] The program launched in JANUARY
[3:39:43] and it was through APRIL 30th
[3:39:44] are now starting MAY 1st
[3:39:48] through we projected next year
[3:39:48] APRIL 30th.
[3:39:49] And the reason for that it
[3:39:52] gives us an ability to go
[3:39:53] through all of the applications
[3:39:54] received and then get through
[3:39:57] that queue and get
[3:39:58] the assistance out before
[3:39:59] the end of the fiscal year.
[3:39:59] So it's currently open
[3:40:03] the application process is
[3:40:03] currently current.
[3:40:08] Okay And Mac is a provider or a
[3:40:08] partner I should say.
[3:40:09] What are we paying Mac to do
[3:40:12] This work The first fiscal year
[3:40:17] fiscal 26 it was approximate
[3:40:18] only on the order of 500,000
[3:40:18] for the year for next fiscal
[3:40:22] year Again based on approximate
[3:40:23] memory it's on the order of
[3:40:26] around 250,000.
[3:40:27] >> So part of the reason
[3:40:27] the first year was more was
[3:40:28] standing up the program and
[3:40:30] building infrastructure So it's
[3:40:31] 500,000 to put on 15 clinics
[3:40:35] and to accept or deny
[3:40:35] the applications correct and
[3:40:36] also to outreach for
[3:40:36] the applications.
[3:40:37] That's correct.
[3:40:40] Okay.
[3:40:40] What's the average wait time
[3:40:41] for a financial assistance
[3:40:45] application So I can answer
[3:40:45] that question indirectly They
[3:40:50] have been getting through a
[3:40:53] round lately around 100 to 200
[3:40:53] applications a week.
[3:40:54] It's hard to give an exact
[3:40:58] average because a lot of
[3:40:58] the applications if they're
[3:40:59] 100% complete they have all
[3:41:00] the information they can
[3:41:02] approve it very quickly.
[3:41:03] What they've been doing is if
[3:41:04] an application is missing
[3:41:08] information, they've been
[3:41:08] reaching out, calling
[3:41:09] the applicant or calling them
[3:41:11] waiting them to call back to
[3:41:12] get missing information or
[3:41:12] corrected information.
[3:41:13] So depending on how responsive
[3:41:17] an applicant is that could
[3:41:17] extend how long it how long it
[3:41:18] would take.
[3:41:21] >> We have 3997 applications.
[3:41:25] So can you tell me how long You
[3:41:26] probably can't tell me right
[3:41:27] now but can you tell me
[3:41:30] the median wait time for
[3:41:31] the financial assistance
[3:41:35] application for maybe even say
[3:41:36] the 2300?
[3:41:37] I guess we should only include
[3:41:41] that because there are also So
[3:41:44] for the 3897 if I could know
[3:41:45] how many you know how long it
[3:41:49] takes just on average even not
[3:41:50] putting into consideration any
[3:41:50] variable just this is what it's
[3:41:55] taking I would say multiple
[3:41:59] months to give you an average
[3:42:00] it would include the date that
[3:42:00] application was received and
[3:42:01] then the date.
[3:42:04] So it would be looking at
[3:42:04] the individual factors for all
[3:42:05] 4000.
[3:42:10] I can check with a mac I'm not
[3:42:10] going to put them on the slide
[3:42:11] unless they I would say no I
[3:42:12] wouldn't want that.
[3:42:14] I can even just an email just
[3:42:15] so I could see it and I would
[3:42:18] our staff and Mac also to
[3:42:19] factor in working families
[3:42:23] schedules for I mentioned that
[3:42:24] for the clinics if they could
[3:42:28] start later in the day
[3:42:28] obviously robust outreach for
[3:42:29] residents consider senior
[3:42:33] citizens especially
[3:42:33] the inability to attend some of
[3:42:38] the meetings I think is going
[3:42:39] to be a factor and also
[3:42:42] the fact that a lot of well I
[3:42:43] shouldn't say a lot 10% of
[3:42:44] the population in my district
[3:42:47] are they exist within
[3:42:48] the digital divide.
[3:42:52] So they have they do not have
[3:42:52] access to any, you know, smart
[3:42:53] form phone wi fi.
[3:42:57] So really getting creative on
[3:43:01] how we outreach this program so
[3:43:02] our residents able to walk into
[3:43:06] Mac's installations and receive
[3:43:07] information for the financial
[3:43:07] assistance program.
[3:43:11] I understand that there their
[3:43:16] offices are in Chula Vista but
[3:43:17] is is a resident are we able to
[3:43:18] send a resident to the Mac
[3:43:21] facility to apply in Chula
[3:43:22] Vista?
[3:43:22] They aren't staffed and set up
[3:43:26] to accept walk in the clinics
[3:43:27] are the primary approach and so
[3:43:32] i thank you for the feedback on
[3:43:33] the timing of those events and
[3:43:34] that's something we can look at
[3:43:34] for the coming years and sketch
[3:43:36] with those to make sure they're
[3:43:36] accessible.
[3:43:36] >> Thank you.
[3:43:40] And so obviously just to put it
[3:43:41] on the record, future clinics
[3:43:45] are being considered in other
[3:43:45] communities in addition to San
[3:43:46] Ysidro and Logan Heights.
[3:43:46] Right.
[3:43:47] We're looking at Otay Mesa
[3:43:50] Nester Egger I just want to put
[3:43:51] that on the record and I just
[3:43:55] have a few more maybe a minute
[3:43:55] or two.
[3:43:56] Once again it's important to me
[3:43:59] that residents in District
[3:43:59] eight have the opportunity to
[3:44:00] easily participate in
[3:44:04] the financial assistance
[3:44:04] clinics provided by esd.
[3:44:05] It's good to hear that you guys
[3:44:09] might jump in and get some of
[3:44:09] that intellectual property
[3:44:14] right that we're handing over
[3:44:14] to Mac.
[3:44:15] Thank you Mac by the way.
[3:44:19] And so yeah, we should make it
[3:44:23] easier rather than harder for
[3:44:24] folks to apply And so that
[3:44:28] would be my concluding comments
[3:44:29] But once again just tremendous
[3:44:30] work that the men and women did
[3:44:34] out in in esd Just it was truly
[3:44:38] phenomenal and it was tough too
[3:44:39] And I actually got to lift up a
[3:44:39] trash can.
[3:44:43] So that was that was really
[3:44:43] cool.
[3:44:44] So please thank Kiki and all of
[3:44:45] his and I think we're working
[3:44:47] on a ride share That's what
[3:44:48] came out of this conversation
[3:44:49] is a ride share with sandag.
[3:44:52] So it was a really fun time And
[3:44:53] thank you you guys.
[3:44:53] I appreciate it.
[3:44:54] Thank you, Councilmember.
[3:44:54] All right.
[3:44:55] Thank you.
[3:44:57] COUNCILMAN Moreno.
[3:44:58] We'll go next to Councilmember
[3:44:59] Camp You you council PRESIDENT.
[3:44:59] Thank you to our staff
[3:45:01] obviously Environmental
[3:45:02] Services does an excellent and
[3:45:03] important job for making sure
[3:45:07] public is safe and healthy and
[3:45:08] million other things.
[3:45:09] We wanted to just get a sense
[3:45:11] of one of the issues in
[3:45:15] the staff report It looks like
[3:45:16] the first rfid readers aren't
[3:45:16] working out but we're going to
[3:45:17] a second one.
[3:45:18] Can you give us a little more
[3:45:18] information on that?
[3:45:20] Oh yes.
[3:45:21] So we discussed last JUNE that
[3:45:25] all the new containers come
[3:45:25] with the rfid Readers
[3:45:26] themselves are in
[3:45:26] the containers and that our
[3:45:30] plan was to test hardware
[3:45:31] through a pilot before we
[3:45:35] invested in installing on our
[3:45:38] on our fleet of trucks We did
[3:45:39] test one hardware the detection
[3:45:43] rate and the versatility of
[3:45:44] the equipment was not
[3:45:48] sufficient for our in our
[3:45:49] perspective to invest the money
[3:45:50] to buy 150 to 200 of those
[3:45:53] devices.
[3:45:54] In that sense we see it as a
[3:45:55] successful pilot and that we
[3:45:58] were able to conclude something
[3:45:59] before purchasing varig
[3:46:03] the same the same vendor that
[3:46:04] makes the containers we became
[3:46:04] aware also makes this hardware
[3:46:09] So our next step is to test
[3:46:09] that hardware and if and only
[3:46:13] if it also turns out to be
[3:46:13] successful scanning meeting our
[3:46:14] Detectability goals Then at
[3:46:17] that point we would plan to
[3:46:18] invest in the equipment to
[3:46:19] install on the trucks.
[3:46:22] Okay understood.
[3:46:22] In terms of the second pilot
[3:46:23] that we see we're at, where
[3:46:27] have we already started testing
[3:46:27] that as early this summer?
[3:46:28] So we have an item coming to
[3:46:31] council in the coming weeks or
[3:46:32] so to consider the contract
[3:46:36] vehicle that would allow us to
[3:46:37] buy the equipment.
[3:46:37] Very good.
[3:46:41] Okay.
[3:46:42] What's the long term plan?
[3:46:42] What what's plan c if this one
[3:46:44] doesn't work Because rfid chips
[3:46:45] are important for us to be able
[3:46:50] to certify that we're charging
[3:46:51] people for the right at
[3:46:51] the right location for
[3:46:55] the right amount of trash in
[3:46:56] general if for some reason it
[3:47:00] wasn't giving the detective
[3:47:01] rate we would look for we would
[3:47:01] look for if there's other
[3:47:04] equipment, other vendors and
[3:47:04] then we could also test.
[3:47:05] Okay.
[3:47:05] Well looking forward to
[3:47:09] bringing that seeing that item
[3:47:10] come to full council and making
[3:47:11] sure we get this to work.
[3:47:11] Thank you.
[3:47:11] Thank you.
[3:47:13] Councilmember.
[3:47:14] All right.
[3:47:15] Thank you, Councilmember Campo.
[3:47:16] I don't see anybody else in
[3:47:18] the lights.
[3:47:19] I'll add my thanks.
[3:47:19] You know a good reminder that
[3:47:22] everything you're doing you
[3:47:28] started from scratch and and a
[3:47:32] fabulous job and you know, a
[3:47:33] lot of bumps along the way.
[3:47:34] But you navigated those and
[3:47:37] righted the ship and really
[3:47:38] delivered for us.
[3:47:38] A couple of questions kind of
[3:47:42] inspired by my colleagues that
[3:47:43] I wasn't really going to ask.
[3:47:46] So in the f y 26 budget we
[3:47:47] allocated money for this
[3:47:47] financial assistance.
[3:47:51] It sounds like we did not burn
[3:47:51] through that.
[3:47:52] Did we roll that over So we
[3:47:56] actually have more money in f y
[3:47:59] 27 or do we still have the 3
[3:47:59] million?
[3:48:00] Yes.
[3:48:00] So the for the contract
[3:48:03] administration we simply
[3:48:04] wouldn't spend that for
[3:48:05] the amount that was allocated
[3:48:09] for the assistance itself.
[3:48:09] We still have that and we're
[3:48:12] going through the nearly 4000
[3:48:13] applications and depending on
[3:48:13] whether there's how many of
[3:48:17] those are fully approved,
[3:48:18] the remaining funding would
[3:48:18] first go to those.
[3:48:22] It would then roll over and
[3:48:22] then when we review
[3:48:23] the applications for next year
[3:48:26] we'd have it available.
[3:48:27] If funding is not used then at
[3:48:28] that point it would be
[3:48:28] available to return to
[3:48:31] the general fund.
[3:48:31] Okay.
[3:48:35] In terms of expectations,
[3:48:35] the 2300 that were approved
[3:48:36] that would be a credit towards
[3:48:40] the f y 26 cost that would show
[3:48:43] up in their f y 27 bill.
[3:48:44] So no thank you.
[3:48:47] Thank you for the question
[3:48:48] Councilmember So for those that
[3:48:51] have applied for fiscal year 26
[3:48:52] because they've already
[3:48:53] received their bill and in most
[3:48:56] cases already paid it
[3:48:56] the assistance for this year is
[3:48:57] in the form of a rebate so they
[3:48:58] will receive or have already
[3:49:01] received in some cases either a
[3:49:02] check or direct deposit for
[3:49:02] next year.
[3:49:06] The plan is to primarily do
[3:49:06] the proactive credit on the tax
[3:49:07] bill.
[3:49:07] Okay.
[3:49:11] And then the remainder of
[3:49:11] the 4000 And once they get
[3:49:15] finally approved I get there in
[3:49:16] process.
[3:49:16] Will they also get a rebate
[3:49:17] That will be a rebate as well?
[3:49:17] Yes.
[3:49:18] Okay.
[3:49:20] All right.
[3:49:21] Again, standing up a first time
[3:49:25] effort So really doing a very,
[3:49:25] very good job.
[3:49:26] I appreciate Councilmember
[3:49:29] Moreno's perspective given her
[3:49:30] knowledge of her constituents
[3:49:31] about how to connect with them.
[3:49:34] I think that's the biggest
[3:49:34] challenge we have is how to
[3:49:35] connect with people who don't
[3:49:39] know our programs available And
[3:49:39] this is something that can be
[3:49:44] pretty available to them.
[3:49:45] There was a comment I want make
[3:49:46] sure people realize t genie
[3:49:49] does not run the care program
[3:49:50] or they run the care program.
[3:49:53] It is not Genie's money it is
[3:49:54] ratepayers money that Genie
[3:49:58] manages on behalf of a
[3:49:59] statewide public purpose
[3:50:03] program No shade on Genie but I
[3:50:03] didn't want anybody to get
[3:50:04] confused after yesterday's
[3:50:08] conversation And I appreciate
[3:50:08] the conversation too about
[3:50:12] the fund balance and keeping an
[3:50:13] eye and managing on that.
[3:50:14] But at the risk of
[3:50:17] relitigating, I think about 70
[3:50:18] or 80 million that was being
[3:50:19] taken out of the general fund
[3:50:23] to run esd that no longer is
[3:50:27] part of the conversation and
[3:50:28] and I know there are still some
[3:50:28] folks that believe that private
[3:50:31] haulers charge less than
[3:50:32] the city And I think I know
[3:50:33] personally that that is not
[3:50:33] true.
[3:50:36] We heard a lot of stories about
[3:50:37] how much people pay for private
[3:50:41] waste collection that goes
[3:50:41] above and beyond what the city
[3:50:42] is actually charging.
[3:50:45] Nevertheless, we should be
[3:50:46] sensitive to what constituents
[3:50:50] have to pay going forward.
[3:50:51] So with that again, thank you
[3:50:51] for the very good work.
[3:50:55] Thank you for these regular
[3:50:56] updates about the program and
[3:50:56] keeping us informed.
[3:51:00] It's I think very helpful to us
[3:51:01] and to the public.
[3:51:01] So again this was an
[3:51:04] information item and no motion
[3:51:05] is required.
[3:51:06] So with that Deputy clerk
[3:51:10] please reintroduce item 333 and
[3:51:11] proceed with the tabulated
[3:51:15] protests.
[3:51:15] Item three through three is a
[3:51:16] collection of solid waste
[3:51:19] management fees on the county
[3:51:20] tax roll.
[3:51:24] There's information provided by
[3:51:25] the Environmental Services
[3:51:28] Department 112,516 protest
[3:51:29] would represent 50% plus one of
[3:51:32] parcel subject to the proposed
[3:51:33] solid waste management fees.
[3:51:35] The city clerk's office
[3:51:36] received three protests against
[3:51:37] adoption of the written report
[3:51:41] identifying affected parcels
[3:51:41] and the solid waste management
[3:51:42] fees to be charged to each
[3:51:45] affected Parcel parcel on
[3:51:50] the 2026 2027 County Tax Bill
[3:51:51] without reviewing or
[3:51:51] authenticating any protests and
[3:51:55] assuming that they are all
[3:51:56] valid and from affected
[3:51:56] property owners.
[3:51:57] We can clearly say that
[3:52:00] the number of protests lodged
[3:52:01] with the city clerk's office is
[3:52:03] clearly below the threshold of
[3:52:04] 50% plus one.
[3:52:05] This concludes my report.
[3:52:05] All right.
[3:52:09] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.
[3:52:09] Again, the public hearing
[3:52:10] portion was closed.
[3:52:13] We will now take up council
[3:52:14] members questions and comments
[3:52:14] and entertain a motion and we
[3:52:19] will start with Councilmember
[3:52:19] Rivera.
[3:52:20] Thank you.
[3:52:20] Health resident I'll move
[3:52:23] the recommendation here.
[3:52:24] All right.
[3:52:25] And not see anybody else in
[3:52:28] lights.
[3:52:33] I'll go ahead and second that
[3:52:34] I'll leave it at that not see
[3:52:34] anybody else.
[3:52:35] So we have a motion by council
[3:52:38] member Eli Rivera and a second
[3:52:38] by myself to move the staff
[3:52:42] recommendation on item 333.
[3:52:47] Clerk Please call the roll.
[3:52:48] I have started the voting
[3:52:48] system.
[3:52:52] Please cast your vote and I
[3:52:52] will need a verbal votes from
[3:52:53] Councilmember Campbell and
[3:52:56] Council member Whitburn Please
[3:52:56] .
[3:52:57] Yes yes.
[3:53:06] Thank you.
[3:53:11] That item passes.
[3:53:19] Um 622 with District five
[3:53:19] absent.
[3:53:24] >> All right With that Deputy
[3:53:27] clerk please introduce item
[3:53:32] s505 items 505 is the fiscal
[3:53:34] year 2027 Appropriation
[3:53:53] ordinance.
[3:53:54] All right.
[3:53:58] As you settle yourself in,
[3:53:59] please introduce yourselves for
[3:53:59] the record and let us know how
[3:54:00] much time you need for your
[3:54:03] presentation.
[3:54:04] >> Good afternoon.
[3:54:04] Council PRESIDENT LaCava and
[3:54:08] council members.
[3:54:09] I'm Ben Battaglia, Director of
[3:54:09] Finance.
[3:54:10] With me today is Amber
[3:54:13] Gutierrez, financial operations
[3:54:13] manager.
[3:54:14] Today we'll be presenting
[3:54:17] the fiscal year 2027
[3:54:18] appropriation ordinance and
[3:54:19] we'll need about five minutes
[3:54:19] please.
[3:54:19] >> All right.
[3:54:22] When you're ready.
[3:54:25] The city council approved
[3:54:26] the fiscal year 2027 budget on
[3:54:26] JUNE 9th and the mayor signed
[3:54:30] the budget resolution on JUNE
[3:54:31] 11th.
[3:54:31] The adoption of
[3:54:32] the appropriation ordinance is
[3:54:36] the final step in the fiscal
[3:54:37] year 2027 budget process as
[3:54:41] outlined in Charter section 69.
[3:54:42] The aoa appropriates the budget
[3:54:42] based on the two controlling
[3:54:46] documents The salary ordinance
[3:54:47] which sets the compensation for
[3:54:51] city employees and the budget
[3:54:51] resolution And this
[3:54:52] incorporates the mayor's draft
[3:54:56] budget as modified by the MAY
[3:54:57] revision and the City Council's
[3:55:00] additional modifications.
[3:55:01] The purpose of the eo is to
[3:55:02] define the legal level at which
[3:55:05] the Mayor and the cfo are
[3:55:06] authorized to control
[3:55:06] operational and capital project
[3:55:10] expenditures.
[3:55:10] Additionally it facilitates
[3:55:13] administration of the city's
[3:55:17] $6.4 million for $6.4 billion
[3:55:18] budget by providing certain
[3:55:18] delegations of authority to
[3:55:22] the Chief financial officer.
[3:55:23] And this is mostly for routine
[3:55:24] non policy items.
[3:55:26] Charter Section 69 requires
[3:55:27] that the City Council adopt
[3:55:28] the aoe by JUNE 30th each each
[3:55:33] year.
[3:55:34] This year there are three
[3:55:34] requested modifications to
[3:55:35] the act.
[3:55:38] The first is modifying section
[3:55:41] 2g2 and adding a new section
[3:55:42] 2g4 and this authorizes the cfo
[3:55:47] to reallocate unobligated cdbg
[3:55:47] balances to previously council
[3:55:52] approved nonprofit facility
[3:55:52] improvement projects to support
[3:55:57] timely project completion.
[3:55:57] This authority is to reallocate
[3:55:58] funds for completed canceled or
[3:56:02] ineligible cdbg projects to
[3:56:03] eligible nonprofit facility
[3:56:07] projects in line with
[3:56:08] consolidated plan objectives
[3:56:08] and will assist the city in
[3:56:11] meeting federal timeliness
[3:56:12] requirements.
[3:56:12] Since this item was presented
[3:56:16] to the budget and government
[3:56:17] Efficiency Committee last week
[3:56:17] we worked closely with
[3:56:18] the Office of the aba to revise
[3:56:22] the language to clarify
[3:56:22] the intent of this section
[3:56:27] including that authority to
[3:56:28] appropriate balances on future
[3:56:28] activities not previously
[3:56:32] approved in the annual Action
[3:56:32] Plan or are subject to Council
[3:56:36] authorization and all uses of
[3:56:37] this added authority will be
[3:56:37] included in the consolidated
[3:56:41] annual performance and
[3:56:41] Evaluation Report each year.
[3:56:46] The second update authorizes
[3:56:46] the cfo to accept appropriate
[3:56:47] and expend grants that are
[3:56:51] awarded to the office of
[3:56:51] the City Clerk.
[3:56:52] The new section improves
[3:56:52] administrative efficiency for
[3:56:55] the city clerk's grant funded
[3:56:56] projects and it expands
[3:56:57] the city's ability to leverage
[3:57:03] external funding sources.
[3:57:03] And the third update removes
[3:57:07] section 2b8 and this removes
[3:57:07] the automated refuse container
[3:57:08] fund from the Special Revenue
[3:57:11] Fund section with
[3:57:12] the establishment of the Solid
[3:57:12] Waste Management Fund.
[3:57:15] This fund will be fully
[3:57:16] exhausted and closed in fiscal
[3:57:17] year 2026 and therefore this
[3:57:20] section is no longer required.
[3:57:21] And finally there are minor
[3:57:22] language updates throughout
[3:57:25] the document including updating
[3:57:26] the fiscal year and
[3:57:30] the recitals.
[3:57:31] >> Included with this item are
[3:57:32] the fiscal year 2027 operating
[3:57:35] and capital appropriations
[3:57:35] along with the annual change
[3:57:36] letter as well as a signed
[3:57:39] budget resolution.
[3:57:40] Staff's recommendation is to
[3:57:41] approve the fiscal year 27
[3:57:44] Appropriation ordinance which
[3:57:45] will codify the adopted budget
[3:57:45] into law.
[3:57:46] That concludes our presentation
[3:57:47] and we're available for any
[3:57:49] questions.
[3:57:50] >> All right.
[3:57:51] Thank you for the work and
[3:57:51] thank you for the presentation.
[3:57:54] Deputy Clerk Please proceed
[3:57:55] with public comment.
[3:57:55] >> Thank you.
[3:57:59] We will begin with in-person
[3:58:00] public comment.
[3:58:03] Max Schmitt please come forward
[3:58:16] if you will have two minutes on
[3:58:17] finalizing this ordinance and
[3:58:21] finalizing the fiscal year 27
[3:58:26] tax limit is a big deal and I
[3:58:27] just wanted to say that I'm
[3:58:31] opposed to all city tax.
[3:58:32] >> One of the things I saw in
[3:58:36] there was a recycling
[3:58:40] enterprise fund and I don't
[3:58:41] think that money should be
[3:58:46] taken from the people for
[3:58:46] the climate agenda hoax that's
[3:58:51] being pressed and I just wanted
[3:58:55] to say that San Diego in their
[3:58:56] general fund has about $2
[3:58:57] billion that they get from
[3:59:05] property sales on cannabis tax
[3:59:06] And if that $2 billion they
[3:59:10] provide fire and police safety
[3:59:10] ,they operate the parks.
[3:59:11] They operate the libraries.
[3:59:14] And I just want to give a first
[3:59:14] hand testimony of why I'm
[3:59:19] opposed to San Diego Getting
[3:59:20] taxes from a homeless person
[3:59:20] who uses the libraries, uses
[3:59:26] the parks.
[3:59:27] And I just wanted to say that
[3:59:27] I've been harassed by police
[3:59:31] officers who believe it or not
[3:59:32] this is going to sound crazy
[3:59:36] but have actually exposed me to
[3:59:41] squad cars teleporting on in
[3:59:42] conjunction my private thoughts
[3:59:45] and then literally said to me
[3:59:46] police officers tried to scare
[3:59:47] me saying you're getting
[3:59:51] teleport traffic which was
[3:59:51] the stupidest thing in
[3:59:52] the world where freemason
[3:59:56] luciferian is like I said
[3:59:56] the police exposed me to
[3:59:57] teleporting and then said
[4:00:01] You're going to teleport
[4:00:02] traffic is stupid And then at
[4:00:02] the library on which taxes go
[4:00:05] to support the library I get
[4:00:05] surrounded by librarians
[4:00:06] speaking gibberish trying to
[4:00:10] make me go insane and then at
[4:00:11] the parks the same thing
[4:00:15] happens Park employees will
[4:00:16] speak gibberish to make me go
[4:00:16] insane and then the transit of
[4:00:21] the transit police will also
[4:00:21] try to make me go insane.
[4:00:22] >> So I don't think San Diego
[4:00:23] should begin any.
[4:00:23] Thank you for your comments.
[4:00:24] That does conclude your time.
[4:00:25] Our next speaker is allegedly
[4:00:34] Andrea sent not funny to
[4:00:35] anybody else.
[4:00:39] The only three people protested
[4:00:39] .
[4:00:40] Does that sound like good
[4:00:40] numbers?
[4:00:40] Right.
[4:00:41] Good outreach.
[4:00:44] I mean, Anyway, uh, that's just
[4:00:45] so sad because these people are
[4:00:48] going to have a rude awakening
[4:00:49] .
[4:00:49] Who knows?
[4:00:50] Just the things change or that
[4:00:51] I mean, sure, it gets less
[4:00:53] whatever.
[4:00:54] Yes, This is interesting, Sean.
[4:00:58] Be creative with less Right?
[4:00:58] I mean, don't you guys think
[4:00:59] that you could do that?
[4:01:00] I think that should be an
[4:01:03] ordinance that you guys create.
[4:01:03] You know, I mean because
[4:01:04] the mayor it's like absolute
[4:01:07] power corrupts obviously.
[4:01:08] And then a couple of you guys
[4:01:12] want to be mayor so it'll be
[4:01:13] interesting to see how that
[4:01:13] plays out.
[4:01:14] But wouldn't it be good if
[4:01:16] there was an ordinance for real
[4:01:17] when we have to do with
[4:01:18] the budget that it's like let's
[4:01:21] see how much we can cut back
[4:01:22] your funds and see how much you
[4:01:27] can do with less and I mean I'm
[4:01:27] telling you you guys get
[4:01:28] creative, right?
[4:01:32] Sean Don't you guys feel like
[4:01:32] you could do a lot more with
[4:01:33] less money?
[4:01:33] I do.
[4:01:36] I feel like you guys would be
[4:01:37] very good and you could do like
[4:01:41] a competition where you see who
[4:01:42] you know comes up with the best
[4:01:42] ideas.
[4:01:46] I'm telling you I mean people
[4:01:46] have to do it out in
[4:01:47] the public.
[4:01:50] You could even have a citizen
[4:01:51] board of people that would come
[4:01:55] in and be like This is what we
[4:01:56] could do with less and we'll
[4:02:00] get more with it Telling you
[4:02:01] people like on their budget
[4:02:01] just to go to the grocery store
[4:02:02] it's like I mean you can't buy
[4:02:06] organic but you sure make sure
[4:02:07] I mean I remember being a kid
[4:02:09] and I was like I could live off
[4:02:10] of 20 bucks for a week and I
[4:02:10] did it.
[4:02:13] I mean it's possible So I feel
[4:02:14] like we should be really good
[4:02:14] stewards of the people's money
[4:02:19] and seeing what we can do
[4:02:19] again.
[4:02:20] You guys are going to have to
[4:02:20] take cuts.
[4:02:22] You're not going to be able to
[4:02:23] ,you know, wear those fancy
[4:02:24] suits and ride your electric
[4:02:24] bikes.
[4:02:28] But at least the people won't
[4:02:29] be suffering as much, right?
[4:02:29] Because you're not going to
[4:02:32] take as much from us.
[4:02:33] It'll be good.
[4:02:34] I think that that should be
[4:02:34] something you guys work on
[4:02:37] lickety Split and I know you
[4:02:37] well.
[4:02:38] Thank you That include your
[4:02:38] time.
[4:02:51] Next speaker is Anthony Ralphs
[4:02:51] .
[4:02:52] Good afternoon City council.
[4:02:53] Just want to let you know can
[4:02:53] Lee I didn't forget about you.
[4:02:56] I got you these flowers as
[4:02:56] well.
[4:02:57] This is a sign a gesture of
[4:03:01] appreciation for the change of
[4:03:01] position on flock.
[4:03:05] It means a lot to us residents
[4:03:06] in San Diego that you're taking
[4:03:06] our privacy concerns seriously.
[4:03:10] And I know that it was within
[4:03:11] the context of a budget crisis
[4:03:11] that we're still in.
[4:03:12] And I know that you explained
[4:03:15] that given the circumstances,
[4:03:16] if we could afford everything
[4:03:20] you would still prefer to have
[4:03:21] this type of technology in
[4:03:21] place.
[4:03:25] And while that position is
[4:03:25] hopefully one that you'll
[4:03:26] reconsider when you reevaluate
[4:03:29] when you look into all of
[4:03:30] the harm that Floc has been
[4:03:34] causing throughout the city,
[4:03:35] hopefully that can weigh in on
[4:03:36] your mindset moving forward.
[4:03:39] Hopefully it's not just
[4:03:39] something that's solely
[4:03:43] predicated upon the fiscal
[4:03:44] situation that we find
[4:03:44] ourselves in which is only
[4:03:45] going to get worse until we
[4:03:48] address the root systemic
[4:03:49] issues of this problem which is
[4:03:53] a totally unaccountable police
[4:03:54] force and a city council or
[4:03:55] only half of a city council
[4:03:58] that's willing to address that
[4:03:59] problem.
[4:03:59] The other half I'm concerned
[4:04:00] about because they're not
[4:04:04] making eye contact with me and
[4:04:04] I'm addressing them and it
[4:04:05] looks like they're on their
[4:04:07] phones right now as I'm
[4:04:08] speaking to them And it's
[4:04:09] disrespectful And there's a
[4:04:14] number of council members that
[4:04:14] aren't even here right now
[4:04:15] including Marni von Wilpert.
[4:04:18] And I know that this is
[4:04:19] something that's frustrated you
[4:04:19] LaCava as well.
[4:04:20] You've mentioned it multiple
[4:04:23] times It's it's disrespect for
[4:04:24] the people of San Diego to
[4:04:24] the constituents.
[4:04:28] You know y'all are being paid
[4:04:29] well and we spend a lot of our
[4:04:30] time and a lot of our money to
[4:04:33] come out here and to have these
[4:04:33] two minutes to be able to
[4:04:34] address you and the least that
[4:04:38] y'all can do is look at us and
[4:04:38] make eye contact with us.
[4:04:42] MISS Campbell MR. Whitburn, as
[4:04:43] we're addressing you directly
[4:04:47] thank you.
[4:04:48] Thank you.
[4:04:48] That does conclude in-person
[4:04:51] public comment.
[4:04:52] We will now turn to virtual
[4:04:52] public comment.
[4:04:55] I've started the five minute
[4:04:56] timer in the committee room and
[4:05:00] there are currently there is
[4:05:01] currently one participant
[4:05:01] requesting to speak.
[4:05:06] So we will go to caller with
[4:05:08] the last four digits 8700
[4:05:13] please begin.
[4:05:14] Thank you.
[4:05:15] First off point for just a few
[4:05:18] seconds.
[4:05:19] Thank you, PRESIDENT Lacob for
[4:05:23] giving me the clarity on
[4:05:28] the sdb sdg Any item that we
[4:05:29] really appreciated.
[4:05:32] And then Councilmember Marino.
[4:05:33] Five stars for that
[4:05:37] storytelling.
[4:05:38] Does everybody notice the power
[4:05:39] of storytelling?
[4:05:43] That was an example on me
[4:05:47] picking up the trash story That
[4:05:47] was five stars.
[4:05:48] Okay.
[4:05:52] So on the item itself please
[4:05:57] let's work on open
[4:05:58] communication and collaboration
[4:06:02] between all branches of
[4:06:02] government.
[4:06:03] Okay.
[4:06:03] I think this is a very, very
[4:06:08] important it's kind of a dicey
[4:06:09] I have an item to me for some
[4:06:13] reason but I want that kind of
[4:06:13] improvement.
[4:06:14] The public really deserves
[4:06:14] that.
[4:06:17] Now on the update with the item
[4:06:23] involving c, d, b, g a little
[4:06:23] concern on the project, this
[4:06:24] goes way back with me when I
[4:06:27] used to really put time in on
[4:06:31] that some of the projects fail
[4:06:32] and I can't remember if
[4:06:33] the training was inappropriate
[4:06:36] or the application was
[4:06:36] inappropriate.
[4:06:37] But let's make sure that we're
[4:06:42] handling all those projects for
[4:06:42] those wonderful people that
[4:06:43] want to do them And I think a
[4:06:44] lot of them are low income
[4:06:48] people having a dream come
[4:06:48] true.
[4:06:53] So I don't know exactly how I'm
[4:06:53] saying that in the right way
[4:06:54] but if I'm helping I hope so.
[4:06:55] And then one thing I hope you
[4:06:58] have time to read This is
[4:06:58] the Department of Finance.
[4:06:59] The whole thing is a quote As
[4:07:02] the city continues to address
[4:07:03] the structural budget deficit,
[4:07:03] the importance of maintaining
[4:07:08] cash reserves to strengthen
[4:07:08] the city's fiscal position and
[4:07:13] effectively manage potential
[4:07:18] future economic downturns has
[4:07:18] never been more critical.
[4:07:21] Thank you for your time.
[4:07:21] Thank you.
[4:07:27] Thank you.
[4:07:27] >> That concludes public
[4:07:28] testimony and item 5 or 5.
[4:07:28] All right.
[4:07:29] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.
[4:07:33] Will now turn over to council
[4:07:33] members for questions, Comments
[4:07:34] Entertain a motion and we'll
[4:07:35] start with the chair of
[4:07:38] the Budget Committee.
[4:07:38] Council member Foster.
[4:07:39] Yes, Thank you.
[4:07:43] Council PRESIDENT And Rolando
[4:07:44] I'm sorry Thank you for
[4:07:45] the presentation and thank you
[4:07:49] for addressing the cdbg item.
[4:07:49] You know our discussion in
[4:07:55] committee.
[4:07:55] So with that I will move
[4:07:56] staff's recommendation.
[4:07:56] All right.
[4:07:57] Thank you Council member.
[4:07:58] So we have a motion by
[4:08:00] Councilmember Foster to move
[4:08:01] the recommendation.
[4:08:02] We'll go next to Councilmember
[4:08:02] Campo.
[4:08:03] Thank you Council PRESIDENT
[4:08:03] Thank you to our Department of
[4:08:07] Finance and our city attorney's
[4:08:08] office for the good work on
[4:08:08] this.
[4:08:09] >> I'll second All right.
[4:08:09] We have a motion by
[4:08:10] Councilmember Foster or second
[4:08:11] by Councilmember Champion to
[4:08:11] move the staff recommendation
[4:08:14] And I'll just quickly add my
[4:08:15] thanks for the good work.
[4:08:16] I know there's a lot that goes
[4:08:16] into this And responding to
[4:08:20] Councilmember Foster's concern
[4:08:25] the cbd are a tricky thing and
[4:08:25] you all do a great job of
[4:08:26] navigating the challenges
[4:08:32] associated with that So with
[4:08:33] that again we have a motion by
[4:08:34] Councilmember Foster, a second
[4:08:34] by Councilmember Campo.
[4:08:36] Deputy Clerk Call the roll
[4:08:37] after the voting system please
[4:08:37] cast your vote and they'll need
[4:08:38] a verbal vote from
[4:08:42] Councilmember Campbell and
[4:08:43] Councilmember William Campbell.
[4:08:43] Yes.
[4:08:44] Yes.
[4:08:58] Thank you.
[4:08:59] That item passes unanimously
[4:09:03] with Council District five
[4:09:03] absent.
[4:09:04] Yeah.
[4:09:08] So that's 818 yeses and one
[4:09:08] absent, correct?
[4:09:14] Yes we'll get it today Anyway
[4:09:17] with that Deputy clerk please
[4:09:27] introduce item 332 item 332 is
[4:09:28] the fiscal year 2027 tax
[4:09:28] appropriations when it began
[4:09:33] when it And with that staff
[4:09:34] please introduce yourself again
[4:09:35] for this item and let us know
[4:09:39] what time you need.
[4:09:39] >> Good afternoon Council
[4:09:40] PRESIDENT Lacob and Council
[4:09:40] Members.
[4:09:41] I'm Ben Battaglia, director of
[4:09:44] Finance and with me is Amber
[4:09:45] Gutierrez, financial operations
[4:09:45] manager.
[4:09:46] We're here today to present
[4:09:49] the fiscal year 2027 tax
[4:09:50] appropriations limit also known
[4:09:51] as the gambling And we'll need
[4:09:51] about four minutes.
[4:09:51] All right.
[4:09:54] When you're ready.
[4:10:01] In NOVEMBER of 1979, California
[4:10:01] voters approved Proposition
[4:10:02] four, also known as the gan
[4:10:02] initiative.
[4:10:03] This legislation requires a
[4:10:07] governing body of each local
[4:10:07] jurisdiction in California to
[4:10:08] establish a tax appropriations
[4:10:13] limit and this is a restriction
[4:10:13] on the amount of tax revenue
[4:10:14] that can be appropriated in any
[4:10:18] fiscal year.
[4:10:19] Local jurisdictions can choose
[4:10:20] among four adjustment factors
[4:10:21] which includes measures of
[4:10:25] inflation and population growth
[4:10:26] to complete the final
[4:10:26] adjustment factor.
[4:10:30] The measures for inflation or
[4:10:31] price factors include growth in
[4:10:32] California per capita income or
[4:10:37] growth in the city's gross
[4:10:38] assessed valuation due to new
[4:10:39] nonresidential construction
[4:10:42] which measure which measures
[4:10:43] While measures for population
[4:10:44] growth include population
[4:10:48] growth within the county or
[4:10:49] the city, revenue subject to
[4:10:50] the limit consist of tax
[4:10:54] proceeds and state subventions
[4:10:54] .
[4:10:55] Tax proceeds include property
[4:10:56] tax, sales tax, transient
[4:11:01] occupancy tax and other local
[4:11:01] taxes.
[4:11:02] As a result, not all city
[4:11:03] revenues are included in this
[4:11:07] calculation The tax
[4:11:07] appropriations limit must be
[4:11:11] established on or before JUNE
[4:11:12] 30th each fiscal year for
[4:11:12] the following fiscal year.
[4:11:16] The fiscal year 27 can limit
[4:11:17] calculation verifies that
[4:11:17] appropriations are below
[4:11:21] the limit in accordance with
[4:11:22] Proposition 111 guidelines.
[4:11:28] The fiscal year 2027 tax
[4:11:28] appropriations limit was
[4:11:29] calculated by adjusting
[4:11:29] the prior year's tax
[4:11:34] appropriations limit using one
[4:11:34] of four annual adjustment
[4:11:39] factors the recommended fiscal
[4:11:40] year 27 adjustment factor uses
[4:11:40] the percentage change in
[4:11:41] assessed valuation in new
[4:11:45] nonresidential construction and
[4:11:46] the population factor based on
[4:11:46] the percent growth in
[4:11:51] the city's population.
[4:11:51] And this results in an
[4:11:56] adjustment factor of 1.1168 or
[4:11:56] 11.68%.
[4:11:57] The adjustment factor is then
[4:12:01] applied to the previous year's
[4:12:02] appropriations limit of 6.29
[4:12:06] billion resulting in a fiscal
[4:12:06] year 27 tax appropriations
[4:12:07] limit of 7.03 billion.
[4:12:12] And again this is an 11.68%
[4:12:16] increase over the fiscal year
[4:12:17] 26 tax appropriations limit.
[4:12:18] I will note the fiscal year 26
[4:12:22] tax appropriations limit was
[4:12:27] revised from 6.24 billion to
[4:12:28] 6.29 billion following receipt
[4:12:28] of a revised report from
[4:12:29] the county which made a
[4:12:30] correction to the city's
[4:12:33] assessed valuation of
[4:12:34] nonresidential construction
[4:12:34] from the prior year.
[4:12:35] And this revision has no impact
[4:12:39] on the city's compliance with
[4:12:40] the tax appropriations limit.
[4:12:44] The fiscal year 27 tax
[4:12:45] appropriations limit is
[4:12:45] calculated to be 7.03 billion a
[4:12:50] total adjusted appropriations
[4:12:51] subject to this limit for
[4:12:55] fiscal year 27 is 1.71 billion.
[4:12:56] As a result, the fiscal year 27
[4:12:56] tax appropriations are
[4:13:01] projected to be below the limit
[4:13:01] by 5.32 billion.
[4:13:02] Staff's recommendation is to
[4:13:02] approve the resolution to
[4:13:07] establish a tax appropriations
[4:13:07] limit of 7.03 billion for
[4:13:08] fiscal year 27.
[4:13:13] That concludes our presentation
[4:13:14] and we're happy to answer any
[4:13:15] questions you MAY have.
[4:13:15] >> All right.
[4:13:16] Thank you for the presentation
[4:13:16] and the work.
[4:13:17] I'll now turn it over to
[4:13:20] the office of the ipa for
[4:13:20] comments.
[4:13:20] Great.
[4:13:21] Thank you Council PRESIDENT,
[4:13:22] council members and thank you
[4:13:22] again for the presentation.
[4:13:25] So this is really a routine
[4:13:26] item that we take up every year
[4:13:26] but it is worth taking a moment
[4:13:27] to talk about what the gambling
[4:13:31] bit tells us about the city's
[4:13:31] overall level of resources.
[4:13:32] As you heard, the gang limit
[4:13:35] was established by 1979 a
[4:13:36] statewide measure that was
[4:13:36] implemented in 1980 and it set
[4:13:37] a cap on the total amount of
[4:13:41] tax revenue that the state as
[4:13:42] well as any local government in
[4:13:42] the state can appropriate.
[4:13:43] And it tied that cap to actual
[4:13:47] tax appropriations in 1979.
[4:13:48] Again, as you heard, the limit
[4:13:48] can be adjusted each year by
[4:13:53] using several factors growth
[4:13:53] and income growth
[4:13:54] nonresidential assessed value
[4:13:55] growth from the population of
[4:13:55] the city of the county.
[4:13:59] And this was done to recognize
[4:13:59] that inflation exists in
[4:14:00] the city's growth but still
[4:14:01] with the underlying intention
[4:14:06] of holding tax revenue near or
[4:14:06] below those 1979 levels.
[4:14:07] The adjustment to the gan limit
[4:14:11] that you just heard would bring
[4:14:12] the city's limit to just over
[4:14:12] $7 billion.
[4:14:13] Our actual tax revenue that is
[4:14:17] subject to the gambling it for
[4:14:18] the upcoming fiscal year is
[4:14:19] estimated at $1.7 billion.
[4:14:23] This tells us something about
[4:14:24] our resources and this will be
[4:14:24] inexact because the city's
[4:14:29] economy does not precisely
[4:14:30] track the four adjustment
[4:14:30] factors in the city generally
[4:14:31] uses the largest possible
[4:14:32] factor One of three calculates
[4:14:32] the limit.
[4:14:35] But it's a very rough
[4:14:36] shorthand.
[4:14:36] The $5.3 billion difference
[4:14:41] between our actual tax revenues
[4:14:41] and the updated gambling It
[4:14:42] illustrate that if the city's
[4:14:46] tax revenues simply kept pace
[4:14:47] since 1980 with growth in
[4:14:47] income, property values and
[4:14:50] population, the city would be
[4:14:51] collecting roughly four times
[4:14:51] the tax revenue that it does
[4:14:52] today.
[4:14:55] And this gap is one of the real
[4:14:56] reasons that the investments
[4:14:57] the city made in its operations
[4:15:00] and the infrastructure 45 years
[4:15:00] ago were in many cases
[4:15:01] significantly larger than
[4:15:02] the investments that it can
[4:15:02] make now.
[4:15:06] Now the constraints on
[4:15:06] the city's resources are not
[4:15:07] caused by the gambling.
[4:15:08] They're instead the result of
[4:15:08] how the city raises money and
[4:15:11] what voters are willing to
[4:15:12] approve.
[4:15:12] But this annual item is a
[4:15:13] useful reminder of the gap
[4:15:14] between what the city once
[4:15:19] invested in itself and what it
[4:15:19] can afford to invest it today.
[4:15:20] And this should also complicate
[4:15:23] any notion that the city's
[4:15:24] current budget issues are
[4:15:24] simply the result of
[4:15:25] overspending instead of
[4:15:30] the larger part of that story
[4:15:30] is that tax revenues have not
[4:15:31] kept pace with growth of
[4:15:32] the city or with the cost of
[4:15:36] demands for programs and
[4:15:36] infrastructure in the city.
[4:15:37] We've just moved past
[4:15:38] the adoption of a difficult
[4:15:42] budget but it is worth keeping
[4:15:43] this gap in mind as we go
[4:15:43] through the rest of the year
[4:15:44] and continue to have
[4:15:45] discussions about the programs
[4:15:48] and policies that this Council
[4:15:49] would like to pursue.
[4:15:49] Thank you.
[4:15:50] Council PRESIDENT.
[4:15:50] All right.
[4:15:51] Thank you, Charles.
[4:15:51] Always appreciate your
[4:15:53] perspective.
[4:15:54] And with that Deputy clerk,
[4:15:55] please proceed with public
[4:15:55] comment.
[4:15:55] Thank you.
[4:16:00] Council PRESIDENT We will begin
[4:16:01] with in-person public comment.
[4:16:02] Next minute please come
[4:16:02] forward.
[4:16:03] You'll have two minutes to
[4:16:09] speak on.
[4:16:15] I just want to say I was at
[4:16:16] City Hall when they had
[4:16:20] the fiscal year 2027 budget
[4:16:20] finalized and it was a big
[4:16:21] crowded day at city hall And
[4:16:26] then now we have these final
[4:16:26] two ordinances finalizing it
[4:16:26] again.
[4:16:31] And then I just want to say
[4:16:32] that it's very interesting to
[4:16:33] me that after the it's
[4:16:38] finalized and we have the tax
[4:16:38] revenue is stated at $1.7
[4:16:39] billion.
[4:16:44] It's very item three three to
[4:16:45] the limit is very interesting
[4:16:45] to me.
[4:16:49] And the reason why is because
[4:16:50] it's on just this kind of
[4:17:00] random number of $7 billion and
[4:17:01] on there $5 billion underneath
[4:17:01] underneath that.
[4:17:02] And I just want to say it's
[4:17:07] just kind of interesting to
[4:17:07] have this information item
[4:17:08] right after everything is
[4:17:09] finalized to say oh by the way,
[4:17:13] there's a limit to how much
[4:17:13] revenue we can make and it's 7
[4:17:17] billion when when the revenue
[4:17:17] is only 1.7 billion.
[4:17:18] And the reason it's interesting
[4:17:22] to me is the Chinese communist
[4:17:23] Party has something called ten
[4:17:24] year and 20 year plans laid out
[4:17:29] And to me it almost reminds me
[4:17:29] of something that the Chinese
[4:17:30] Chinese Communist Party would
[4:17:34] do as a ten year plan and
[4:17:35] the gang limit presentation
[4:17:39] even said that on revenues that
[4:17:40] the revenues are not keeping up
[4:17:40] with city growth and they want
[4:17:45] revenues to be higher.
[4:17:45] And I just can't imagine
[4:17:46] the financial hardship
[4:17:47] the people of San Diego would
[4:17:51] have if if the gang limit was
[4:17:52] reached this year and we
[4:17:56] actually had $7 billion in
[4:18:03] revenue all taxed on it just it
[4:18:03] just almost seems like a very
[4:18:04] interesting thing to have this
[4:18:08] random gang limit after
[4:18:09] the budget finalized Almost
[4:18:15] seems like a a plan of sorts to
[4:18:15] try to increase thinking that
[4:18:16] does conclude your time
[4:18:26] allegedly order the surely is
[4:18:27] interesting never really
[4:18:31] understood it before you get
[4:18:32] really good education come into
[4:18:33] meetings like this That's why
[4:18:37] people should pay attention.
[4:18:38] But it's interesting that you
[4:18:38] set the limit of like how much
[4:18:44] you guys can spend.
[4:18:45] Like what if your children were
[4:18:45] like I'm going to tell you how
[4:18:46] much you can spend on me and
[4:18:47] it's like a billion bucks and
[4:18:50] you better spend it And if you
[4:18:50] don't you better give me that
[4:18:51] money back, you know, because
[4:18:52] you guys it's like obviously
[4:18:56] you're going to come in below
[4:18:56] that but it makes it look good
[4:18:57] that like we're coming in below
[4:19:01] our limit And it's just
[4:19:02] interesting to see the way
[4:19:02] the government works how it's
[4:19:03] like you know, you set your
[4:19:08] policies and like you want to
[4:19:09] keep people in compliance with
[4:19:13] your policies but doesn't
[4:19:14] really matter if they break
[4:19:14] the law.
[4:19:15] It's like you can break the law
[4:19:16] but just follow the policy and
[4:19:19] like we'll do all this nonsense
[4:19:20] to pretend like we're holding
[4:19:20] people accountable.
[4:19:24] It's just you know But when
[4:19:25] you're setting your own limits
[4:19:26] I mean like you're going to set
[4:19:26] it to a place where you're
[4:19:27] going to exceed it.
[4:19:30] I mean obviously you would not
[4:19:30] be stupid.
[4:19:31] I mean but it's also sad to
[4:19:36] see, you know, people come in
[4:19:37] and give you guys, you know,
[4:19:43] accolades and appreciation for
[4:19:44] votes and you know, I'm used to
[4:19:44] you guys not looking.
[4:19:45] It's like it's fine.
[4:19:49] I mean enjoy do appreciate even
[4:19:50] though half the time your faces
[4:19:51] are kind of funny because but
[4:19:52] you're you're you're you're not
[4:19:55] on your phone you know you're
[4:19:56] you're sometimes I feel like
[4:19:57] you're in la la land It's okay
[4:19:57] but you're you're you know
[4:20:01] listening which you can get
[4:20:02] into that mode But it's like I
[4:20:03] mean if you guys treated your
[4:20:07] or if your staff treated you
[4:20:07] this way if your staff while
[4:20:08] you were talking to them was
[4:20:09] looking down on their phone you
[4:20:12] would fire them immediately.
[4:20:13] You wouldn't put up with it.
[4:20:14] But yet people we pay your
[4:20:19] paycheck and you guys can't
[4:20:19] even give people the courtesy
[4:20:20] of even saying thank you for
[4:20:24] something like that.
[4:20:25] I mean he didn't have to do
[4:20:26] that.
[4:20:26] He spent his own money doing it
[4:20:27] And just the fact that you guys
[4:20:30] don't even acknowledge it just
[4:20:31] shows you that doesn't work
[4:20:36] with your time.
[4:20:37] I have started the five minute
[4:20:38] timer in the committee room.
[4:20:38] We'll now turn to virtual
[4:20:42] the virtual queue which there
[4:20:43] are currently just one
[4:20:43] participant requesting to
[4:20:44] speak.
[4:20:48] So we will begin with caller
[4:20:49] with the last four digits 8700
[4:20:54] please begin.
[4:20:59] Thank you.
[4:21:00] Excuse me a deputy city Clerk
[4:21:00] Two minutes.
[4:21:01] Yes, two minutes.
[4:21:06] Thank you Joy.
[4:21:11] Assuming I've never spoken on
[4:21:12] this item and I wasn't going to
[4:21:17] speak So this is off the top of
[4:21:18] my head and in what MAY be
[4:21:22] pressed or nine is our idea or
[4:21:28] great idea.
[4:21:28] Monica Monica speaking And you
[4:21:34] spoke beautifully.
[4:21:35] I want to add to it because we
[4:21:40] have a structural budget
[4:21:41] deficit and it does involve
[4:21:46] overspending and it's out of
[4:21:47] balance and it's replicating
[4:21:48] itself for 20 or more years And
[4:21:53] we're like a journal stuck on a
[4:21:54] wheel going round and round and
[4:21:54] round and round again And I'm
[4:21:58] looking forward to speaking
[4:21:59] with all of you maybe tomorrow
[4:22:04] if I get energy about the time
[4:22:05] of reckoning which has to do
[4:22:06] with the people who didn't vote
[4:22:10] on the sales tax measures,
[4:22:11] the recent one and we need to
[4:22:15] listen to them because they're
[4:22:16] telling us we're not spending
[4:22:21] our money correctly.
[4:22:22] We are overspending.
[4:22:22] I know what's more complicated
[4:22:28] than that And I just thank you
[4:22:29] ,Monica.
[4:22:29] That was beautifully said But I
[4:22:34] think we need to tweak it a
[4:22:35] little bit And I'm really
[4:22:36] there's a great article from
[4:22:36] the u-t on It's got the word
[4:22:40] reckoning in it for our city
[4:22:40] and the people are saying no to
[4:22:46] our things So I'm going to
[4:22:46] really try to work on that for
[4:22:47] tomorrow.
[4:22:48] Anyway, thank you for listening
[4:22:52] Always a great day.
[4:22:53] We have one more love to all.
[4:22:54] Thank you.
[4:22:58] That concludes public testimony
[4:22:59] on item 332.
[4:22:59] >> All right.
[4:23:00] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.
[4:23:00] With that we'll turn over to
[4:23:05] the council members for
[4:23:05] questions.
[4:23:06] Comments Entertain a motion and
[4:23:07] we'll start with council member
[4:23:07] You Thank you.
[4:23:11] Council PRESIDENT I think you
[4:23:12] members of the public for their
[4:23:13] participation this item of
[4:23:13] approval of such
[4:23:14] recommendation.
[4:23:16] >> All right.
[4:23:17] We have a motion by Council
[4:23:17] member Campo.
[4:23:18] We'll go next to Council Member
[4:23:21] Foster a second by Council
[4:23:21] member foster So we do have a
[4:23:26] motion by Council kennedy a
[4:23:27] second by Council member Foster
[4:23:27] I don't think I throw in that
[4:23:28] the element please correct me
[4:23:29] if I'm wrong was actually a
[4:23:32] voter approved So we're just
[4:23:33] following the voter approved
[4:23:33] measure.
[4:23:33] That's correct.
[4:23:37] It's probably like 218 There's
[4:23:38] a lot of reasons to be a little
[4:23:38] frustrated by it But until
[4:23:39] there's a new vote and
[4:23:43] repositioning that legislation
[4:23:44] with that we just have to
[4:23:45] follow that.
[4:23:45] >> So all right.
[4:23:50] We have a motion by Council
[4:23:50] member Kennedy on a second by
[4:23:51] Council member Foster.
[4:23:52] I think as you've seen we have
[4:23:52] a little glitch in the voting
[4:23:55] system of the tally system.
[4:23:56] So all in favor say aye.
[4:23:56] All right.
[4:24:05] And he opposed and was that of
[4:24:06] no council member.
[4:24:10] You know what I pay attention
[4:24:10] to the audience So that passes
[4:24:16] 8 to 0 with District five
[4:24:16] absent Deputy Clerk please
[4:24:21] introduce item 331 Thank you
[4:24:21] Council PRESIDENT Item 331 is
[4:24:26] the fiscal year 2027 tax rate
[4:24:27] ordinance for the maintenance
[4:24:27] of zoological exhibits.
[4:24:32] This item is not subject to
[4:24:32] the mayor's.
[4:24:32] Yeah.
[4:24:33] All right.
[4:24:33] Thank you for that.
[4:24:34] So we have the same staff but
[4:24:35] please introduce yourself for
[4:24:38] this item and let us know how
[4:24:39] much time you need.
[4:24:39] >> Good afternoon.
[4:24:40] Council PRESIDENT Joe Lacob and
[4:24:44] council members.
[4:24:45] I'm a financial operations
[4:24:46] manager with the Department of
[4:24:46] Finance and with me is that
[4:24:50] battalion director of Finance.
[4:24:51] We are here to present
[4:24:52] the fiscal year 2027 tax rate
[4:24:52] ordinance.
[4:24:56] We about three minutes.
[4:24:56] All right when you're ready.
[4:24:57] The tax rate ordinance
[4:25:01] establishes a tax levy for
[4:25:02] the maintenance of the logical
[4:25:03] exhibits in accordance with
[4:25:03] section 75 of the city charter
[4:25:08] which requires the adoption of
[4:25:08] an annual tax levy by
[4:25:09] ordinance.
[4:25:09] Approval of this ordinance also
[4:25:13] ensures compliance with
[4:25:14] the filing requirements and
[4:25:15] deadline established by
[4:25:15] the County Auditor and
[4:25:16] Comptroller which mandates
[4:25:21] submission no later than
[4:25:21] the last day of AUGUST of each
[4:25:22] year.
[4:25:22] This levy was originally
[4:25:25] approved in 1934 when San Diego
[4:25:26] voters approved Section 77 of
[4:25:31] the city charter to levy an
[4:25:31] annual property tax of $0.02
[4:25:32] per $100 of assessed value to
[4:25:37] be used exclusively for
[4:25:37] the maintenance of zoological
[4:25:38] exhibits in Double Park in
[4:25:43] 1981, the California Revenue
[4:25:44] and Taxation Code's definition
[4:25:44] of the assessed valuation on
[4:25:45] which property taxes are levied
[4:25:49] was changed from 25% of
[4:25:49] the property's value to 100% of
[4:25:50] the property's value In order
[4:25:55] to translate Charter Section 77
[4:25:56] a's tax rates to the new
[4:26:00] definition a conversion factor
[4:26:01] of one fourth was applied to
[4:26:01] logical exhibits tax rate
[4:26:05] changing the levy from $0.02
[4:26:06] per $100 of assessed value to
[4:26:09] half a cent per $100 of
[4:26:09] assessed value.
[4:26:10] Since then the tax rate has
[4:26:15] remained unchanged for fiscal
[4:26:15] year 2027 with the Logical
[4:26:16] Exhibits Maintenance Fund is
[4:26:20] budgeted at approximately 22.8
[4:26:20] million for revenues and
[4:26:21] expenditures and it's based on
[4:26:26] the calculation of a half a
[4:26:27] cent per every $100 of assessed
[4:26:27] value.
[4:26:28] This amount is an estimate
[4:26:31] based on the city's fiscal year
[4:26:32] 2027 property tax budget.
[4:26:33] Each year the city transfers
[4:26:37] transfers the actual property
[4:26:37] tax revenues collected by
[4:26:42] the county for this purpose be
[4:26:43] 22.8 million represents only a
[4:26:43] portion of the total costs of
[4:26:44] maintenance The logical
[4:26:45] exhibits the remaining costs
[4:26:48] are funded through new
[4:26:49] operations and support from
[4:26:50] members, donors and guests.
[4:26:50] Staff's recommendation is to
[4:26:54] approve the fiscal year 2027
[4:26:55] tax rate ordinance levying a
[4:26:58] property tax of half a cent per
[4:26:58] $100 of assessed value to be
[4:26:59] used exclusively for
[4:26:59] the maintenance of zoological
[4:27:03] exhibits in double Park in
[4:27:03] compliance with Charter Section
[4:27:04] 75 and the County Auditor and
[4:27:09] Comptroller's requirements.
[4:27:10] That concludes our presentation
[4:27:11] that we're available for Any
[4:27:11] questions.
[4:27:11] All right.
[4:27:12] Thank you for the work and
[4:27:15] thank you for the presentation
[4:27:15] .
[4:27:16] Deputy Clerk Please proceed
[4:27:16] with public comment.
[4:27:21] Thank you Counsel PRESIDENT Max
[4:27:21] Schmidt We'll begin with
[4:27:22] in-person comment.
[4:27:22] Max Schmidt please come
[4:27:23] forward.
[4:27:24] You'll have two minutes to
[4:27:35] speak on increasing the tax to
[4:27:40] $0.05 for every $100 of the $22
[4:27:41] million in maintenance revenue
[4:27:45] on seems unnecessary.
[4:27:51] And I just wanted to say that
[4:27:51] earning taxes off of San
[4:27:57] Diego's amazing zoo also seems
[4:28:02] unnecessary I think with on
[4:28:07] the $2 billion in taxes that
[4:28:08] San Diego San Diego has to
[4:28:09] spend on maybe they could try
[4:28:13] to make the zoo more affordable
[4:28:14] or even free.
[4:28:19] I know St Louis, Missouri has a
[4:28:19] free zoo and it's very popular
[4:28:24] and I just wanted to also say
[4:28:25] that I've mentioned this a lot
[4:28:29] already but I'm against
[4:28:30] the city of San Diego getting
[4:28:34] any tax dollars from the people
[4:28:35] whether it's through the zoo's
[4:28:40] maintenance fee or whether it's
[4:28:40] through property or sales tax.
[4:28:44] And the reason why is because
[4:28:49] there is serious criminal and
[4:28:49] illegal activity that falls
[4:28:54] under city sponsored and state
[4:28:55] sponsored.
[4:28:59] And what that is is people
[4:29:00] being paid tax dollars like
[4:29:01] staff at homeless shelter
[4:29:04] police officer transit
[4:29:05] authority on the trolley on
[4:29:09] whoever is running the trolley
[4:29:13] intercom are actually harassing
[4:29:14] Catholics And what they do is
[4:29:19] this They speak constant,
[4:29:20] bizarre, strange half
[4:29:24] gibberish, half I'm reading
[4:29:25] your mind I know it sounds
[4:29:26] crazy where they're telepathic
[4:29:26] from doing hermetic chants
[4:29:29] The Masonic Lodge and people
[4:29:30] who are getting paid tax
[4:29:34] dollars are actually trying to
[4:29:34] drive Catholics either to
[4:29:35] suicide or drug addiction And
[4:29:39] there's a genocide happening.
[4:29:39] Thank you.
[4:29:40] That does conclude your time
[4:29:49] Allegedly order Poor Vivienne
[4:29:50] got thrown under the bus.
[4:29:50] Why?
[4:29:51] Why not call out Jennifer?
[4:29:54] You didn't think it was her?
[4:29:54] >> Yeah, this is interesting.
[4:29:59] That's I mean a half a cent and
[4:30:00] you get $22 million almost 23 I
[4:30:04] feel like that should give us a
[4:30:05] free pass to go to the zoo when
[4:30:09] they're getting that much money
[4:30:10] from the people in is this
[4:30:11] county leaders is just in
[4:30:14] the city is this just city
[4:30:14] property Yeah that's
[4:30:15] interesting That's a lot of
[4:30:18] money and those people still
[4:30:19] have to pay to go to the zoo.
[4:30:20] And I'm wondering because it's
[4:30:23] like nobody really keeps up
[4:30:24] with their maintenance.
[4:30:24] How do we know that this is
[4:30:27] going towards their maintenance
[4:30:28] really?
[4:30:28] I mean do we know that Is there
[4:30:29] any kind of checks and balances
[4:30:33] to be sure we just give it to
[4:30:34] them and say it's out of our
[4:30:36] hands?
[4:30:36] Right.
[4:30:41] So how it works I guess so.
[4:30:42] I mean that's that's the way it
[4:30:42] seems.
[4:30:46] That's the way the government
[4:30:46] works.
[4:30:46] We contract with you.
[4:30:47] We did our part.
[4:30:50] We followed the policy.
[4:30:51] We created a bike lane.
[4:30:51] Yeah.
[4:30:55] It cost like $13 million and it
[4:30:55] goes to no or but we did what
[4:30:56] we were supposed to do.
[4:30:59] So again it's like until people
[4:31:00] are going to like go to the zoo
[4:31:03] for free I mean $22 million and
[4:31:04] plus we're like holding animals
[4:31:04] in captivity.
[4:31:08] I always hated that as a kid
[4:31:09] like go in and watching these
[4:31:12] animals I mean they say they
[4:31:13] save them but it's like is it
[4:31:14] really I mean because like out
[4:31:18] in their own habitat they don't
[4:31:18] really do those things But it's
[4:31:22] like, you know, wild horses,
[4:31:22] mustangs.
[4:31:23] I had a couple of those ones So
[4:31:27] sad They're like 50 bucks You
[4:31:27] can't even like sell them for
[4:31:28] that much because they're wild
[4:31:31] horses anyway.
[4:31:32] Yeah.
[4:31:32] So I just like to see kind of
[4:31:36] some kind of uh you know, uh
[4:31:36] audit to make sure that this
[4:31:37] money is going towards
[4:31:40] maintenance and how much more
[4:31:41] they're like requiring from
[4:31:41] the people.
[4:31:45] I'd also like to request an
[4:31:46] audit on flock so if we could
[4:31:50] do that as well that would be
[4:31:50] good.
[4:31:51] Thank you.
[4:31:51] That does conclude your time.
[4:31:52] Our next speaker is Anthony
[4:32:04] Ralphs.
[4:32:05] I think I'm in favor of this
[4:32:09] tax but I'm not entirely sure.
[4:32:13] Um, I.
[4:32:14] I don't know if the zoo is a
[4:32:18] private corporation and if
[4:32:19] they're getting public subsidy.
[4:32:24] If so, then it probably I don't
[4:32:25] know if this tax is justified.
[4:32:26] They do bring in a lot of
[4:32:29] people.
[4:32:30] They are like a world famous
[4:32:30] and the world famous San Diego
[4:32:31] Zoo.
[4:32:31] Right.
[4:32:33] So I guess there's a there
[4:32:37] could be a justification for it
[4:32:38] But the not knowing that
[4:32:39] distinction makes it difficult
[4:32:43] to formulate a fully educated
[4:32:43] opinion.
[4:32:46] So I think I'm in favor of it
[4:32:52] Anyway, thanks.
[4:32:52] Thank you.
[4:32:53] That does conclude in-person
[4:32:56] public comment.
[4:32:57] I I've started the five minute
[4:32:58] timer and the committee room
[4:33:01] and we will now turn to
[4:33:02] the virtual queue where there
[4:33:04] is one speaker requesting to
[4:33:05] speak.
[4:33:05] Hector please begin your
[4:33:09] comments.
[4:33:14] Having grown up here I've been
[4:33:15] to the zoo a lot of times as a
[4:33:15] kid.
[4:33:18] I think we should sunset this
[4:33:19] thing and not pay him anything
[4:33:24] because originally did that to
[4:33:25] get the zoo running up and
[4:33:28] running so the Sand City could
[4:33:29] with the zoo when it first
[4:33:29] started to get everything going
[4:33:33] But now the zoo is in great
[4:33:33] hands.
[4:33:34] There's a lot of entrepreneurs
[4:33:38] there, a lot of people donate.
[4:33:39] It's top of the line and we
[4:33:42] should almost charge them $20
[4:33:43] million like rent or something
[4:33:47] because they're the you know,
[4:33:48] they have all sorts of things
[4:33:52] going on and we don't need to
[4:33:52] subsidize them.
[4:33:53] Not that we got to be mad him
[4:33:57] or nothing but just we got 20
[4:33:57] million we can spend on so many
[4:34:01] other things and they should we
[4:34:02] could charge him maybe a
[4:34:06] million bucks rent because I
[4:34:06] think we own the property but
[4:34:07] it's probably it's it's own
[4:34:11] corporation or how it works and
[4:34:12] the zoo works but all the big
[4:34:16] time guys in the zoo, they know
[4:34:16] what's going on And this is
[4:34:20] just an extra this is almost
[4:34:20] mayonnaise on the sandwich.
[4:34:21] You know if you take out
[4:34:25] the mayonnaise it would still
[4:34:25] be a good sandwich.
[4:34:26] You know they're not hurting
[4:34:30] for money but they're getting
[4:34:31] the parking revenue now So who
[4:34:34] knows what's going to happen.
[4:34:35] But anyway, we should move to
[4:34:39] sunset this politically it
[4:34:40] might be a no no for you guys
[4:34:41] but we'll spend the money down
[4:34:44] in Barrio Logan man setting up
[4:34:45] a lot of stuff down there.
[4:34:49] Parks Dumber and you give
[4:34:50] the money to you know, all
[4:34:54] sorts of different things we
[4:34:55] could do and it would make a
[4:34:58] positive impact in a lot of
[4:34:58] different places.
[4:35:03] Thanks for your time.
[4:35:03] Thank you.
[4:35:04] We have the next speaker is a
[4:35:08] caller with the last four
[4:35:08] digits 8700.
[4:35:12] Please begin your comments.
[4:35:19] Thank you Joyce and your to
[4:35:21] Councilmember Foster the third
[4:35:22] Would you listen up on this
[4:35:29] item please?
[4:35:30] We have a world class zoo.
[4:35:30] There's no doubt about it.
[4:35:35] And in on another item this
[4:35:35] year last year we realized in
[4:35:39] real life that we just had we
[4:35:40] were told and we knew how great
[4:35:43] they are and how they improved
[4:35:44] and the executives and
[4:35:48] everything and then great And
[4:35:49] you know so out of the five
[4:35:54] stars which I think is the best
[4:35:54] sometimes I give a plus more
[4:35:55] But out of the five stars they
[4:35:59] only get four from me And
[4:35:59] the reason for that is there's
[4:36:03] a question mark on the Fifth
[4:36:04] Star and that is how they treat
[4:36:08] their employees And I don't
[4:36:13] know excuse me if I stumble on
[4:36:14] this with the eeoc and
[4:36:17] the workforce reports I Googled
[4:36:18] back away a year or two ago I
[4:36:22] Googled how they treat their
[4:36:22] employees and I got awful
[4:36:26] negativity stuff and I just
[4:36:31] it's it frightened me.
[4:36:36] It just shocked me.
[4:36:37] So I just would like to shine a
[4:36:37] light there.
[4:36:41] Councilmember Foster the third
[4:36:45] and make sure that I can that
[4:36:46] I'm wrong that it's just fake
[4:36:50] fake news on Google And so I
[4:36:51] just had to get that off my
[4:36:55] chest.
[4:36:56] I wasn't going to speak on this
[4:36:56] item.
[4:36:57] I was sort of waiting for MR.
[4:37:00] Stump to speak.
[4:37:01] So I feel better that I put
[4:37:05] that out there.
[4:37:06] I hope it's wrong But if there
[4:37:06] me if these people these
[4:37:09] employees are doing
[4:37:10] the maintenance, we've got to
[4:37:14] treat them five stars So please
[4:37:15] check on that and it's been a
[4:37:20] great day and thank you so much
[4:37:21] for listening up to all Thank
[4:37:24] you.
[4:37:25] That concludes public testimony
[4:37:25] on item 331.
[4:37:25] All right.
[4:37:29] Thank you, Deputy Clerk.
[4:37:30] With that will turn over to
[4:37:30] council members for questions,
[4:37:31] Comments Entertain a motion and
[4:37:34] we'll start with Council member
[4:37:34] Whitburn.
[4:37:35] Thank you.
[4:37:35] Council PRESIDENT 92 years ago
[4:37:39] Sandiego residents voted to
[4:37:40] enact this property tax to help
[4:37:40] maintain the exhibits at
[4:37:40] the zoo.
[4:37:44] Whatever voters pass a property
[4:37:45] tax for a specific purpose
[4:37:46] the funds have to be used for
[4:37:49] that purpose and only that
[4:37:49] purpose.
[4:37:50] In this case the funds must be
[4:37:54] used for the exhibits at
[4:37:54] the zoo.
[4:37:58] San Diego Zoo is a point of
[4:37:58] pride for our city.
[4:37:59] It's the reason many tourists
[4:38:03] visit our city.
[4:38:03] A lot of the people who work at
[4:38:07] the zoo have worked there for
[4:38:08] decades and speak very highly
[4:38:08] of their experience.
[4:38:11] Many of them are represented by
[4:38:12] the Teamsters Union.
[4:38:13] I very much appreciate
[4:38:17] the zoo's long standing
[4:38:17] partnership with the city and
[4:38:18] I'm happy to move the staff
[4:38:18] recommendation.
[4:38:19] All right.
[4:38:23] We have a motion by council
[4:38:23] member Whitburn.
[4:38:24] Well let's go to Councilmember
[4:38:24] Camp.
[4:38:26] You happy to Second Council
[4:38:26] PRESIDENT Oh right.
[4:38:30] >> Well quick on the on that I
[4:38:31] don't see anybody else on
[4:38:36] the lights And so we're going
[4:38:37] to do a voice vote again We
[4:38:37] have a motion by COUNCILMAN
[4:38:38] Whitburn, the second by Council
[4:38:41] member Campo to move the staff
[4:38:42] recommendation In favor say aye
[4:38:45] Aye Any nays that passes eight
[4:38:49] zero with District five absent.
[4:38:49] That brings us to the end of
[4:38:53] our agenda.
[4:38:54] We will now adjourn Council to
[4:38:54] the next regularly scheduled
[4:38:58] council meeting on Monday JUNE
[4:38:59] 29th, 2026 at 10 A.M. And I am
[4:39:00] confident we will be back in