1 00:06:44,355 --> 00:06:46,355 and 2 00:08:44,275 --> 00:08:46,275 will 3 00:13:42,542 --> 00:13:43,900 get one. 4 00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:45,900 >> All right. 5 00:13:47,714 --> 00:13:48,481 Good morning, everyone. 6 00:13:48,481 --> 00:13:49,149 >> We're going to get started. 7 00:13:49,149 --> 00:13:49,816 I will now call the city 8 00:13:49,816 --> 00:13:52,216 council meeting of Tuesday, 9 00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:54,187 JUNE 30th, 2026 to order Clerk 10 00:13:54,187 --> 00:13:54,621 please call the roll. 11 00:13:54,621 --> 00:13:55,255 >> Thank you. 12 00:13:55,255 --> 00:13:57,255 Council PRESIDENT Council 13 00:13:59,326 --> 00:14:01,326 member Campbell. 14 00:14:05,650 --> 00:14:05,498 Council Member Campbell I do 15 00:14:05,498 --> 00:14:06,166 thank you. 16 00:14:06,166 --> 00:14:08,566 Council Member Whipper here 17 00:14:11,905 --> 00:14:12,505 Council Member Foster Council 18 00:14:12,505 --> 00:14:13,206 Zimmerman Labor Council 19 00:14:13,206 --> 00:14:15,942 PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Council 20 00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:16,610 Member Campos here Council 21 00:14:16,610 --> 00:14:17,210 Member Moreno Council member 22 00:14:17,210 --> 00:14:19,610 Ella Rivera and Council 23 00:14:22,215 --> 00:14:22,916 PRESIDENT LaCava present Also 24 00:14:22,916 --> 00:14:23,517 attending the meeting our city 25 00:14:23,517 --> 00:14:24,152 Attorney Heather Ferber, 26 00:14:24,152 --> 00:14:26,152 Independent budget analyst 27 00:14:28,255 --> 00:14:28,955 Charles Mollica Council Affairs 28 00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:29,656 Advisor in the Mayor's office 29 00:14:29,656 --> 00:14:30,356 Curtis Eisner myself for City 30 00:14:30,356 --> 00:14:33,260 Clerk Diana Fuentes thank you. 31 00:14:33,260 --> 00:14:33,993 Council PRESIDENT All right. 32 00:14:33,993 --> 00:14:34,461 Thank you, City Clerk a quorum 33 00:14:34,461 --> 00:14:35,195 is now present. 34 00:14:35,195 --> 00:14:35,862 We will begin this morning with 35 00:14:35,862 --> 00:14:36,863 the land acknowledgment and 36 00:14:36,863 --> 00:14:37,397 the pledge of Allegiance let by 37 00:14:37,397 --> 00:14:39,397 council member camp. 38 00:14:48,275 --> 00:14:48,742 >> You We respectfully 39 00:14:48,742 --> 00:14:49,309 acknowledge that 40 00:14:49,309 --> 00:14:49,976 the communication are 41 00:14:49,976 --> 00:14:52,376 the original inhabitants of 42 00:14:54,614 --> 00:14:55,150 the Unceded land now known as 43 00:14:55,150 --> 00:14:55,816 San Diego. 44 00:14:55,816 --> 00:14:56,549 Despite the horrors of genocide 45 00:14:56,549 --> 00:14:58,949 and colonization, the community 46 00:14:59,820 --> 00:15:00,621 spirit remains unbroken. 47 00:15:00,621 --> 00:15:01,320 We honor the resilience of 48 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,220 their ancestors who fought to 49 00:15:02,220 --> 00:15:05,220 protect their culture and land 50 00:15:06,393 --> 00:15:07,600 and today they carry their 51 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:07,728 legacy forward ensuring that 52 00:15:07,728 --> 00:15:08,328 their traditions continue to 53 00:15:08,328 --> 00:15:10,728 thrive and gratitude and 54 00:15:11,798 --> 00:15:12,466 strength We stand with 55 00:15:12,466 --> 00:15:13,133 the culmination connected to 56 00:15:13,133 --> 00:15:13,599 our past and committed to a 57 00:15:13,599 --> 00:15:15,599 thriving future. 58 00:15:18,171 --> 00:15:18,572 Please space to flag and of 59 00:15:18,572 --> 00:15:18,972 your heart. 60 00:15:18,972 --> 00:15:20,972 Ready Begin. 61 00:15:23,210 --> 00:15:23,977 I pledge allegiance to the flag 62 00:15:23,977 --> 00:15:24,677 of the United States of America 63 00:15:24,677 --> 00:15:28,277 and to the Republic for which 64 00:15:28,649 --> 00:15:29,316 it stands One nation under GOD 65 00:15:29,316 --> 00:15:31,716 indivisible with liberty and 66 00:15:33,954 --> 00:15:35,954 justice for all. 67 00:15:40,661 --> 00:15:41,360 With that with that thought, 68 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:41,995 please go over how the public 69 00:15:41,995 --> 00:15:42,362 can offer their testimony. 70 00:15:42,362 --> 00:15:44,362 Thank you. 71 00:15:46,330 --> 00:15:46,767 I'd like to highlight the slide 72 00:15:46,767 --> 00:15:47,400 on the screen that reveals how 73 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,135 the public can offer their 74 00:15:48,135 --> 00:15:48,469 public testimony during today's 75 00:15:48,469 --> 00:15:49,200 meeting. 76 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,402 Please note the time 77 00:15:51,705 --> 00:15:52,406 allocations for proclamations 78 00:15:52,406 --> 00:15:53,390 and consent items for meeting 79 00:15:53,390 --> 00:15:55,439 management purposes of one 80 00:15:56,577 --> 00:15:57,244 minute per item three minutes 81 00:15:57,244 --> 00:15:57,878 max for three or more items 82 00:15:57,878 --> 00:15:58,612 the order can be found on 83 00:15:58,612 --> 00:16:01,612 the agenda Summary found online 84 00:16:03,500 --> 00:16:03,417 or at the table in the back of 85 00:16:03,417 --> 00:16:04,830 the room. 86 00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:04,818 If you are in person please 87 00:16:04,818 --> 00:16:05,552 complete the speaker stipulated 88 00:16:05,552 --> 00:16:08,288 at the entrance of chambers and 89 00:16:08,288 --> 00:16:08,923 bring it to the front of 90 00:16:08,923 --> 00:16:09,523 the room in the clear box. 91 00:16:09,523 --> 00:16:10,224 Council ambassadors are 92 00:16:10,224 --> 00:16:10,891 available near the entrance of 93 00:16:10,891 --> 00:16:13,891 chambers and can assist with 94 00:16:14,128 --> 00:16:14,929 questions and speaker slips. 95 00:16:14,929 --> 00:16:15,629 No further in-person testimony 96 00:16:15,629 --> 00:16:16,330 will be taken once the council 97 00:16:16,330 --> 00:16:18,730 begins Virtual testimony Thank 98 00:16:20,167 --> 00:16:20,468 you Council PRESIDENT All 99 00:16:20,468 --> 00:16:21,201 right. 100 00:16:21,201 --> 00:16:21,902 Thank you for that To the clerk 101 00:16:21,902 --> 00:16:22,436 With that we will now dispense 102 00:16:22,436 --> 00:16:24,836 with the approval of 103 00:16:25,739 --> 00:16:26,439 the proclamation items. 104 00:16:26,439 --> 00:16:26,907 Clerk Please proceed with 105 00:16:26,907 --> 00:16:27,274 public comment. 106 00:16:27,274 --> 00:16:27,841 Thank you. 107 00:16:27,841 --> 00:16:28,542 The public library for 108 00:16:28,542 --> 00:16:31,542 the proclamations item is now 109 00:16:31,879 --> 00:16:32,546 open each speaker will have one 110 00:16:32,546 --> 00:16:33,247 minute per item per person. 111 00:16:33,247 --> 00:16:33,980 If you would like to speak on 112 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:34,648 three or more items you'll have 113 00:16:34,648 --> 00:16:37,648 a maximum of three minutes. 114 00:16:38,886 --> 00:16:39,754 Proclamation items being 115 00:16:39,754 --> 00:16:42,154 approved are items 3332 at 500 116 00:16:42,523 --> 00:16:43,224 5a1 and five before we did 117 00:16:43,224 --> 00:16:46,224 receive comments on item 31 in 118 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:48,162 favor of your comment for which 119 00:16:48,162 --> 00:16:48,562 I've been distributed to 120 00:16:48,562 --> 00:16:49,230 the Council. 121 00:16:49,230 --> 00:16:53,430 We do have quite a number of 122 00:16:54,702 --> 00:16:55,200 speakers here for proclamations 123 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:55,770 . 124 00:16:55,770 --> 00:16:56,470 If we can start with Jacob 125 00:16:56,470 --> 00:16:58,870 Lewis Edwards You're speaking 126 00:16:59,400 --> 00:16:59,740 on items 3032 and s5o1 If I can 127 00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:00,407 have the following individuals 128 00:17:00,407 --> 00:17:04,700 please come up to the yellow 129 00:17:05,246 --> 00:17:05,613 reserved seats at the front of 130 00:17:05,613 --> 00:17:06,314 the room. 131 00:17:06,314 --> 00:17:06,981 Mahalo Lenny Ariel Arriola if 132 00:17:06,981 --> 00:17:09,981 you can please come forward. 133 00:17:11,619 --> 00:17:14,190 Ron Lewis allegedly Audra 134 00:17:17,458 --> 00:17:18,192 Cushing, Lynn Elliot and 135 00:17:18,192 --> 00:17:18,893 Claudia Huang if you can please 136 00:17:18,893 --> 00:17:19,527 all come forward to the yellow 137 00:17:19,527 --> 00:17:21,927 reserved seats and please 138 00:17:22,930 --> 00:17:23,664 proceed. 139 00:17:23,664 --> 00:17:26,640 Good morning, COUNCILMAN And 140 00:17:29,437 --> 00:17:30,604 women Everybody in chambers. 141 00:17:30,604 --> 00:17:34,108 So I'm going to go over item 30 142 00:17:34,108 --> 00:17:34,675 and 32. 143 00:17:34,675 --> 00:17:37,750 Item five final one. 144 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:39,981 Item 30 is a recognition a 145 00:17:39,981 --> 00:17:40,581 month of recognition for San 146 00:17:40,581 --> 00:17:42,981 Diego lgbtq Pride Month. 147 00:17:45,253 --> 00:17:45,787 >> That is great. 148 00:17:45,787 --> 00:17:47,787 That's awesome. 149 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:51,693 Proclaiming JUNE 7th to be as 150 00:17:51,693 --> 00:17:52,160 three coffee bar 10th 151 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,160 anniversary day. 152 00:17:56,698 --> 00:17:57,498 That's also that's really good 153 00:17:57,498 --> 00:18:00,498 and a city attorney recognition 154 00:18:02,770 --> 00:18:03,438 day now we go over a lot of 155 00:18:03,438 --> 00:18:06,438 recognition days and that is 156 00:18:08,442 --> 00:18:09,177 wonderful What's going on in 157 00:18:09,177 --> 00:18:12,777 our city folks as genocide This 158 00:18:14,949 --> 00:18:15,683 is well known If you look at a 159 00:18:15,683 --> 00:18:16,284 YouTube clip I spoke right here 160 00:18:16,284 --> 00:18:18,684 at this microphone Jacob 161 00:18:20,588 --> 00:18:21,289 Edwards speaks since that 162 00:18:21,289 --> 00:18:24,289 YouTube clip where you'll see 163 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:27,729 my speech and I stood right 164 00:18:27,729 --> 00:18:31,329 here speaking to you all city 165 00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:33,201 council which transpired was a 166 00:18:33,201 --> 00:18:33,735 deal by the Federal Reserve 167 00:18:33,735 --> 00:18:34,436 families to cut with 168 00:18:34,436 --> 00:18:38,360 the Chinese to wipe out their 169 00:18:38,173 --> 00:18:38,974 debt of trillions and included 170 00:18:38,974 --> 00:18:39,673 a deal of genocide to occur to 171 00:18:39,673 --> 00:18:43,273 wipe out the best Our country 172 00:18:44,645 --> 00:18:45,280 has recruited from 173 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,814 the Department of Homeland 174 00:18:45,814 --> 00:18:46,547 Security's database. 175 00:18:46,547 --> 00:18:50,747 >> We've lost a lot of lives in 176 00:18:51,386 --> 00:18:52,530 this country right here is 177 00:18:52,530 --> 00:18:52,721 the epicenter of it having a 178 00:18:52,721 --> 00:18:55,721 hard time dealing with this. 179 00:18:56,724 --> 00:18:57,225 But I ask why aren't we 180 00:18:57,225 --> 00:18:57,859 confronting this? 181 00:18:57,859 --> 00:19:00,259 Why isn't this discussed? 182 00:19:02,797 --> 00:19:03,198 People are given jobs 183 00:19:03,198 --> 00:19:03,832 assignments. 184 00:19:03,832 --> 00:19:06,232 People are given carrots. 185 00:19:08,670 --> 00:19:09,437 People are afraid. 186 00:19:09,437 --> 00:19:13,370 I have not once heard anybody 187 00:19:15,277 --> 00:19:15,911 in this community standing up 188 00:19:15,911 --> 00:19:16,311 like I do speaking loudly 189 00:19:16,311 --> 00:19:18,311 against it. 190 00:19:21,820 --> 00:19:21,750 It's well known I mentioned to 191 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:22,450 somebody about the genocide 192 00:19:22,450 --> 00:19:25,450 yesterday and the guy started 193 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:27,823 going into details of 194 00:19:27,823 --> 00:19:30,823 the operations thinking My GOD, 195 00:19:33,261 --> 00:19:33,595 this is more well known than I 196 00:19:33,595 --> 00:19:34,329 thought. 197 00:19:34,329 --> 00:19:37,329 Why isn't this discussed Folks, 198 00:19:38,330 --> 00:19:39,000 you are elected officials. 199 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,200 You stand up for us as our 200 00:19:44,172 --> 00:19:44,973 elected officials for 201 00:19:44,973 --> 00:19:45,640 the people, by the people And 202 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,640 that's what this country is 203 00:19:50,746 --> 00:19:51,480 about, folks not genocide, not 204 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Chinese taking over our country 205 00:19:56,885 --> 00:19:57,586 for a debt The Federal Reserve 206 00:19:57,586 --> 00:19:58,253 families owe them for trouble 207 00:19:58,253 --> 00:19:58,887 We were going through in our 208 00:19:58,887 --> 00:20:01,887 country They were going to 209 00:20:02,257 --> 00:20:03,225 appear to swoop in as our 210 00:20:03,225 --> 00:20:06,825 saviors but cut a deal of 211 00:20:08,797 --> 00:20:09,464 genocide. 212 00:20:09,464 --> 00:20:09,931 Folks, we need to start 213 00:20:09,931 --> 00:20:10,665 discussing this. 214 00:20:10,665 --> 00:20:14,865 I say we need to start standing 215 00:20:14,903 --> 00:20:15,671 up for ourselves. 216 00:20:15,671 --> 00:20:16,271 We need to start standing up 217 00:20:16,271 --> 00:20:17,673 for each other and start 218 00:20:17,673 --> 00:20:21,273 standing up for our country and 219 00:20:24,580 --> 00:20:25,280 the future of our country. 220 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:25,948 >> Let's start discussing this 221 00:20:25,948 --> 00:20:26,648 Your time has concluded and 222 00:20:26,648 --> 00:20:29,648 standing up for ourselves and 223 00:20:31,353 --> 00:20:32,870 our country That's a good 224 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:32,788 example of actually not talking 225 00:20:32,788 --> 00:20:33,456 to the proclamation items not 226 00:20:33,456 --> 00:20:36,456 agenda Public comment I do. 227 00:20:36,525 --> 00:20:37,159 Yeah we can talk about anything 228 00:20:37,159 --> 00:20:37,860 within the city's purview. 229 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:38,293 Let's be respectful to members 230 00:20:38,293 --> 00:20:40,293 of the public. 231 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:42,831 You don't have to be respectful 232 00:20:42,831 --> 00:20:43,532 possibly be respectful of those 233 00:20:43,532 --> 00:20:43,866 who come to the chambers this 234 00:20:43,866 --> 00:20:44,299 morning. 235 00:20:44,299 --> 00:20:46,299 >> Thank you. 236 00:20:47,569 --> 00:20:48,337 Mahalo. 237 00:20:48,337 --> 00:20:50,737 >> You're speaking on item 30. 238 00:20:53,509 --> 00:20:54,760 You'll have one minute on 239 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:54,443 behalf of the center. 240 00:20:54,443 --> 00:20:56,443 Thank you. 241 00:20:59,915 --> 00:21:00,582 Council members for recognizing 242 00:21:00,582 --> 00:21:01,150 Pride Month visibility This 243 00:21:01,150 --> 00:21:03,550 visibility is vital to 244 00:21:05,721 --> 00:21:06,321 confronting discrimination and 245 00:21:06,321 --> 00:21:07,220 ensuring everyone feels 246 00:21:07,220 --> 00:21:09,422 accepted to live authentically 247 00:21:11,794 --> 00:21:12,327 despite the federal 248 00:21:12,327 --> 00:21:12,928 government's Despite 249 00:21:12,928 --> 00:21:13,596 the federal government's 250 00:21:13,596 --> 00:21:16,596 attempts at taking away our 251 00:21:18,330 --> 00:21:18,767 progress especially from our 252 00:21:18,767 --> 00:21:21,167 trans and non-binary community. 253 00:21:23,805 --> 00:21:24,507 It is beautiful to see my local 254 00:21:24,507 --> 00:21:24,874 government fight against those 255 00:21:24,874 --> 00:21:25,508 attempts. 256 00:21:25,508 --> 00:21:28,508 The city support makes San 257 00:21:30,279 --> 00:21:30,980 Diego feel safe, welcoming and 258 00:21:30,980 --> 00:21:31,747 a place to be proud of. 259 00:21:31,747 --> 00:21:34,147 Your leadership is deeply 260 00:21:35,618 --> 00:21:36,284 appreciated. 261 00:21:36,284 --> 00:21:36,986 I look forward to seeing 262 00:21:36,986 --> 00:21:39,522 the city advance towards true 263 00:21:39,522 --> 00:21:39,855 equity for the lgbtq community 264 00:21:39,855 --> 00:21:41,855 . 265 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:48,731 >> Thank you Ron Luis you have 266 00:21:48,731 --> 00:21:51,131 demonstrated by Jeanette Amato 267 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:51,667 did raise your hand. 268 00:21:51,667 --> 00:21:52,268 >> Thank you. 269 00:21:52,268 --> 00:21:54,668 You'll have two minutes. 270 00:21:58,174 --> 00:21:58,641 Please proceed. 271 00:21:58,641 --> 00:21:59,342 Thank you. 272 00:21:59,342 --> 00:21:59,976 Council PRESIDENT McCarver and 273 00:21:59,976 --> 00:22:01,976 Councilmember Campbell for 274 00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:04,346 proclaiming JUNE 2026 to be 275 00:22:04,346 --> 00:22:06,746 Alzheimer's and bring awareness 276 00:22:09,952 --> 00:22:10,252 about in the city of San Diego 277 00:22:10,252 --> 00:22:11,530 . 278 00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:11,354 As you heard my name is Ron 279 00:22:11,354 --> 00:22:12,540 Lewis. 280 00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:12,688 I currently serve as the board 281 00:22:12,688 --> 00:22:13,356 chair for the Alzheimer's 282 00:22:13,356 --> 00:22:16,259 Association of San Diego in 283 00:22:16,259 --> 00:22:16,959 Imperial County And on behalf 284 00:22:16,959 --> 00:22:17,660 of our chapter we are very 285 00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:18,394 honored and grateful to accept 286 00:22:18,394 --> 00:22:21,394 this proclamation from the city 287 00:22:22,732 --> 00:22:23,432 of San Diego Recognizing this 288 00:22:23,432 --> 00:22:24,133 month JUNE as the Alzheimer's 289 00:22:24,133 --> 00:22:27,133 and Brain Awareness Month this 290 00:22:28,370 --> 00:22:29,105 recognition so impactful and 291 00:22:29,105 --> 00:22:29,806 important because of the nearly 292 00:22:29,806 --> 00:22:32,206 7 million Americans age 65 and 293 00:22:34,277 --> 00:22:34,977 older living with Alzheimer's 294 00:22:34,977 --> 00:22:35,678 disease Data has shown also 295 00:22:35,678 --> 00:22:38,678 that more than 75,000 of those 296 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:41,651 Americans and those living in 297 00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:44,651 San Diego so that's caregivers 298 00:22:46,522 --> 00:22:47,223 Alzheimer's brain awareness 299 00:22:47,223 --> 00:22:47,890 Month was created to bring 300 00:22:47,890 --> 00:22:48,558 awareness to and honor those 301 00:22:48,558 --> 00:22:51,558 individuals as well as many 302 00:22:52,362 --> 00:22:53,620 more millions of friends and 303 00:22:53,620 --> 00:22:53,663 family members who are caring 304 00:22:53,663 --> 00:22:54,330 for someone living with 305 00:22:54,330 --> 00:22:56,730 the disease The Alzheimer's 306 00:22:58,768 --> 00:22:59,469 Association leads the way to 307 00:22:59,469 --> 00:23:00,200 end Alzheimer's and all other 308 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,670 forms of dementia by 309 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:02,670 accelerating global research 310 00:23:04,641 --> 00:23:05,374 driving risk reduction and 311 00:23:05,374 --> 00:23:06,900 early detection Here at home we 312 00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:08,409 support our community by 313 00:23:10,746 --> 00:23:11,447 conducting educational programs 314 00:23:11,447 --> 00:23:11,981 for caregivers and people who 315 00:23:11,981 --> 00:23:13,981 recently received an 316 00:23:15,985 --> 00:23:16,686 Alzheimer's diagnosis over 317 00:23:16,686 --> 00:23:17,387 the past 12 months our chapter 318 00:23:17,387 --> 00:23:18,860 has been able to provide free 319 00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:20,486 resources and support through 320 00:23:22,925 --> 00:23:25,325 our educational programs and 321 00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:28,531 support groups to $65 to 6500 322 00:23:28,531 --> 00:23:28,898 individuals in our local 323 00:23:28,898 --> 00:23:29,532 community. 324 00:23:29,532 --> 00:23:30,266 We're proud to offer these 325 00:23:30,266 --> 00:23:32,266 educational programs throughout 326 00:23:33,803 --> 00:23:34,571 San Diego in both English and 327 00:23:34,571 --> 00:23:38,771 in Spanish And we do host our 328 00:23:39,943 --> 00:23:40,276 annual walk to end Alzheimer's 329 00:23:40,276 --> 00:23:41,430 . 330 00:23:41,430 --> 00:23:41,844 >> And once again we'd like to 331 00:23:41,844 --> 00:23:46,150 thank you so much City of San 332 00:23:46,150 --> 00:23:46,682 Diego for recognizing JUNE as 333 00:23:46,682 --> 00:23:47,282 Alzheimer's Brain Awareness 334 00:23:47,282 --> 00:23:50,282 Health Month and we hope 335 00:23:51,354 --> 00:23:52,550 hopeful and confident that 336 00:23:52,550 --> 00:23:52,589 through our efforts one day 337 00:23:52,589 --> 00:23:52,989 will bring an end to 338 00:23:52,989 --> 00:23:53,423 Alzheimer's. 339 00:23:53,423 --> 00:23:55,423 >> Thank you. 340 00:24:00,263 --> 00:24:00,562 Allegedly all is beginning his 341 00:24:00,562 --> 00:24:01,431 3500. 342 00:24:01,431 --> 00:24:02,650 >> As for everyone and as I go 343 00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:02,399 forward you'll have three 344 00:24:02,399 --> 00:24:04,399 minutes. 345 00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:09,400 Please proceed. 346 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:09,706 >> You guys, we're all in this 347 00:24:09,706 --> 00:24:12,106 together like hostages, right? 348 00:24:13,577 --> 00:24:13,877 That's good. 349 00:24:13,877 --> 00:24:14,711 Yes. 350 00:24:14,711 --> 00:24:18,911 And I know what I'm going to 351 00:24:19,649 --> 00:24:20,417 say is going to be twisted and 352 00:24:20,417 --> 00:24:24,170 I'll be gaslit for it but 353 00:24:25,522 --> 00:24:26,223 that's okay because I come from 354 00:24:26,223 --> 00:24:26,957 a perspective where the truth 355 00:24:26,957 --> 00:24:29,957 matters and there's things that 356 00:24:30,927 --> 00:24:31,595 aren't addressed in these 357 00:24:31,595 --> 00:24:32,162 proclamations that should be 358 00:24:32,162 --> 00:24:32,896 like with Alzheimer's. 359 00:24:32,896 --> 00:24:36,496 My mother died of dementia with 360 00:24:37,534 --> 00:24:38,268 dementia and we don't really 361 00:24:38,268 --> 00:24:38,969 talk about the actual causes of 362 00:24:38,969 --> 00:24:41,969 these things and the detriment 363 00:24:43,473 --> 00:24:44,241 to heavy metals and things like 364 00:24:44,241 --> 00:24:47,841 fluoride too in our brain and 365 00:24:49,913 --> 00:24:50,613 our ability to function And 366 00:24:50,613 --> 00:24:51,281 when you know it's coming from 367 00:24:51,281 --> 00:24:54,881 the air, the water, the food 368 00:24:56,186 --> 00:24:56,920 and injections and so you know 369 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:57,721 you guys promote those types of 370 00:24:57,721 --> 00:25:01,921 things and yet you say that you 371 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:02,459 want to have awareness with 372 00:25:02,459 --> 00:25:03,193 that. 373 00:25:03,193 --> 00:25:03,860 So I think we should be aware 374 00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:06,860 that these things cause that 375 00:25:06,897 --> 00:25:07,898 and then anything to do with 376 00:25:07,898 --> 00:25:11,498 attorneys it's like they have a 377 00:25:13,803 --> 00:25:14,438 global allegiance through 378 00:25:14,438 --> 00:25:15,138 the British registry here. 379 00:25:15,138 --> 00:25:18,738 So it's like I mean obviously 380 00:25:19,977 --> 00:25:20,744 that is a problem and we're 381 00:25:20,744 --> 00:25:21,477 paying a city attorney to be up 382 00:25:21,477 --> 00:25:25,770 here and protect the city while 383 00:25:25,682 --> 00:25:26,316 they go after the people you 384 00:25:26,316 --> 00:25:26,882 know, like people who lost 385 00:25:26,882 --> 00:25:29,282 everything in a storm. 386 00:25:32,155 --> 00:25:32,923 So and then with this pride and 387 00:25:32,923 --> 00:25:37,123 the lgbtq plus my problem is as 388 00:25:37,927 --> 00:25:38,662 a victim of a pedophile, this 389 00:25:38,662 --> 00:25:39,396 is honoring maps which is minor 390 00:25:39,396 --> 00:25:42,996 attracted persons and it is on 391 00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:44,735 the pride progress flag And as 392 00:25:44,735 --> 00:25:47,735 a victim that's terrifying to 393 00:25:50,107 --> 00:25:50,741 me because you know that's 394 00:25:50,741 --> 00:25:51,408 talking about the rape of 395 00:25:51,408 --> 00:25:53,808 children And it's concerning 396 00:25:55,613 --> 00:25:56,213 that we are glorifying that as 397 00:25:56,213 --> 00:25:56,846 a sexual preference and 398 00:25:56,846 --> 00:25:57,214 especially people who have 399 00:25:57,214 --> 00:25:59,214 children. 400 00:26:01,884 --> 00:26:02,553 i don't understand the Russian 401 00:26:02,553 --> 00:26:03,286 roulette that's played with 402 00:26:03,286 --> 00:26:06,286 children like people think that 403 00:26:07,625 --> 00:26:08,359 their child is untouchable. 404 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,590 But this is why it continues 405 00:26:09,590 --> 00:26:12,590 because the man that was 406 00:26:12,463 --> 00:26:12,930 abusing me for nine years was a 407 00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:13,730 victim himself. 408 00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:17,930 So he was a victim that became 409 00:26:18,836 --> 00:26:19,470 a predator because you don't 410 00:26:19,470 --> 00:26:20,170 when you're ten years old 411 00:26:20,170 --> 00:26:22,570 sexually assault babies unless 412 00:26:24,542 --> 00:26:25,208 you learned that behavior 413 00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:26,177 because you were yourself a 414 00:26:26,177 --> 00:26:29,177 victim And then you become 415 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:33,917 the victimizer because nobody 416 00:26:33,917 --> 00:26:37,517 wants to talk about this stuff 417 00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:40,323 And and that is what is so 418 00:26:40,323 --> 00:26:42,723 nefarious because you shouldn't 419 00:26:45,162 --> 00:26:45,863 make victims feel like they are 420 00:26:45,863 --> 00:26:48,263 unwanted by promoting somebody 421 00:26:51,702 --> 00:26:52,269 who has sex with them, which 422 00:26:52,269 --> 00:26:52,837 that's what they say. 423 00:26:52,837 --> 00:26:53,504 But it again is rape. 424 00:26:53,504 --> 00:26:53,871 You can't have sex with 425 00:26:53,871 --> 00:26:55,871 the child. 426 00:26:57,308 --> 00:26:57,975 We have Scott Wiener who people 427 00:26:57,975 --> 00:27:01,479 support and he's the one who 428 00:27:01,479 --> 00:27:02,146 puts in bills who say if you're 429 00:27:02,146 --> 00:27:02,813 ten years apart that you can 430 00:27:02,813 --> 00:27:05,813 consent And that would mean 431 00:27:06,317 --> 00:27:07,510 that I could consent as a five 432 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:07,318 year old for this man to groom 433 00:27:07,318 --> 00:27:08,190 me. 434 00:27:08,190 --> 00:27:11,522 >> And as I'm wearing a skirt 435 00:27:11,522 --> 00:27:12,156 he's putting on a garter How 436 00:27:12,156 --> 00:27:12,990 special is that official? 437 00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:15,390 >> And Eliot, you're speaking 438 00:27:17,795 --> 00:27:18,262 on item 32. 439 00:27:18,262 --> 00:27:18,696 Please proceed. 440 00:27:18,696 --> 00:27:19,330 Good morning. 441 00:27:19,330 --> 00:27:21,330 Council PRESIDENT, council 442 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:24,535 members and members at the San 443 00:27:24,535 --> 00:27:25,203 Diego community. 444 00:27:25,203 --> 00:27:26,300 My name is Caitlin Elliott. 445 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,674 She her her pronouns and I'm an 446 00:27:29,674 --> 00:27:30,374 executive director for San 447 00:27:30,374 --> 00:27:31,750 Diego Pride on behalf of San 448 00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:31,642 Diego Pride thank you so much 449 00:27:31,642 --> 00:27:33,642 for this proclamation. 450 00:27:35,513 --> 00:27:36,180 Recognizing Pride Month and 451 00:27:36,180 --> 00:27:38,180 the Resilience Contributions 452 00:27:41,252 --> 00:27:41,753 and Humanity of lgbtq People 453 00:27:41,753 --> 00:27:43,753 across our city. 454 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:46,490 In just two weeks more than 455 00:27:46,490 --> 00:27:47,124 250,000 people will gather for 456 00:27:47,124 --> 00:27:47,692 San Diego Pride Parade and 457 00:27:47,692 --> 00:27:49,692 Festival to celebrate 458 00:27:52,496 --> 00:27:52,864 the beauty and diversity of our 459 00:27:52,864 --> 00:27:53,598 community. 460 00:27:53,598 --> 00:27:54,298 I invite everyone that can hear 461 00:27:54,298 --> 00:27:57,702 my voice to come and sign on 462 00:27:57,702 --> 00:27:58,690 with us and gobble up our Canon 463 00:27:58,690 --> 00:27:58,736 Hillcrest. 464 00:27:58,736 --> 00:27:59,404 Together we will honor those 465 00:27:59,404 --> 00:28:02,404 who came before us celebrate 466 00:28:03,775 --> 00:28:04,509 who we are today and inspire 467 00:28:04,509 --> 00:28:04,876 the future that we are building 468 00:28:04,876 --> 00:28:05,543 together. 469 00:28:05,543 --> 00:28:08,543 The call to protect equality 470 00:28:09,147 --> 00:28:09,814 defend human dignity and ensure 471 00:28:09,814 --> 00:28:12,814 every lgbtq person can live 472 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:15,687 openly and safely belongs to 473 00:28:15,687 --> 00:28:16,530 all of us every day of 474 00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:16,788 the year. 475 00:28:16,788 --> 00:28:20,388 So thank you for standing with 476 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,827 our community and we look 477 00:28:22,827 --> 00:28:23,940 forward to celebrating with 478 00:28:23,940 --> 00:28:25,940 you. 479 00:28:27,765 --> 00:28:28,433 Claudia Call you one if I can 480 00:28:28,433 --> 00:28:29,134 come to the microphone then 481 00:28:29,134 --> 00:28:32,734 David Smith please come up to 482 00:28:34,972 --> 00:28:35,707 the other reserved seats. 483 00:28:35,707 --> 00:28:36,740 Claudia you have people filling 484 00:28:36,740 --> 00:28:36,741 your time. 485 00:28:36,741 --> 00:28:39,244 Shall we call them to come? 486 00:28:39,244 --> 00:28:39,510 Please raise your hand, Shall 487 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:40,211 we? 488 00:28:40,211 --> 00:28:40,778 >> Well, I'm sorry if I'm 489 00:28:40,778 --> 00:28:42,778 misstating your name. 490 00:28:44,582 --> 00:28:45,150 Please raise your hand and then 491 00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:45,383 Hector Davis. 492 00:28:45,383 --> 00:28:47,383 Thank you. 493 00:28:48,586 --> 00:28:49,860 You'll have three minutes to 494 00:28:49,860 --> 00:28:49,788 talk on item 32. 495 00:28:49,788 --> 00:28:52,188 Good morning, Council members. 496 00:28:54,159 --> 00:28:54,759 First of all, thank you so much 497 00:28:54,759 --> 00:28:55,560 for having us here. 498 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,194 My name is Claudia and I'm here 499 00:28:56,194 --> 00:28:59,194 to represent my family and 500 00:29:00,699 --> 00:29:03,699 everybody from s3 Coffee Bar. 501 00:29:05,570 --> 00:29:06,271 We are so honored for this 502 00:29:06,271 --> 00:29:06,972 proclamation And ten years ago 503 00:29:06,972 --> 00:29:10,572 me and my sisters opened this 504 00:29:12,430 --> 00:29:12,577 coffee shop for my mom and 505 00:29:12,577 --> 00:29:13,311 Grabell San Diego. 506 00:29:13,311 --> 00:29:16,911 We were trying to create a 507 00:29:17,182 --> 00:29:18,830 welcoming space for people to 508 00:29:18,830 --> 00:29:18,783 kind of just talk and hang out 509 00:29:18,783 --> 00:29:21,783 with our own neighbors because 510 00:29:23,855 --> 00:29:24,256 we didn't see that then ten 511 00:29:24,256 --> 00:29:26,256 years ago. 512 00:29:28,493 --> 00:29:29,270 But every now ten years from 513 00:29:29,270 --> 00:29:29,728 now we never imagine 514 00:29:29,728 --> 00:29:30,395 the incredible community that 515 00:29:30,395 --> 00:29:33,995 we have built in that area. 516 00:29:34,332 --> 00:29:35,330 And we are incredibly lucky to 517 00:29:35,330 --> 00:29:38,330 have such good neighbors first 518 00:29:40,205 --> 00:29:40,906 responders, local schools, 519 00:29:40,906 --> 00:29:41,573 local organizations that have 520 00:29:41,573 --> 00:29:42,740 supported us throughout this 521 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:44,740 whole entire time. 522 00:29:46,111 --> 00:29:46,678 I don't think that's what's 523 00:29:46,678 --> 00:29:47,411 going to be possible. 524 00:29:47,411 --> 00:29:48,146 You know and everybody that had 525 00:29:48,146 --> 00:29:51,746 walked in through the doors to 526 00:29:52,918 --> 00:29:53,218 support us, we are incredibly 527 00:29:53,218 --> 00:29:53,851 lucky. 528 00:29:53,851 --> 00:29:54,286 Thank you so much for this 529 00:29:54,286 --> 00:29:56,286 proclamation. 530 00:29:59,258 --> 00:29:59,958 Thank you. 531 00:29:59,958 --> 00:30:00,659 David Smith David Smith, you 532 00:30:00,659 --> 00:30:00,959 have Daniel Smith asking your 533 00:30:00,959 --> 00:30:02,959 time. 534 00:30:03,962 --> 00:30:04,563 Please raise your hand and you 535 00:30:04,563 --> 00:30:04,930 please raise your hand. 536 00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:05,329 Thank you. 537 00:30:05,329 --> 00:30:06,640 Thank you. 538 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,640 And Daniel Smith, please raise 539 00:30:10,669 --> 00:30:11,503 your hand. 540 00:30:11,503 --> 00:30:11,970 >> You'll have three minutes. 541 00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:12,337 Please proceed. 542 00:30:12,337 --> 00:30:13,380 Thank you. 543 00:30:13,380 --> 00:30:15,438 Good morning, Council members. 544 00:30:16,375 --> 00:30:17,750 My name is David Smith and 545 00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:17,776 the ceo of Eldorado Properties 546 00:30:17,776 --> 00:30:18,510 in the Great Lakes community. 547 00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:22,710 On behalf of my family that are 548 00:30:23,148 --> 00:30:23,715 here this morning, I'd like to 549 00:30:23,715 --> 00:30:24,383 thank the Council for 550 00:30:24,383 --> 00:30:25,500 the proclamation celebrating 551 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,500 today JUNE 30th as Eldorado 552 00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:29,154 Properties Day in the city of 553 00:30:29,154 --> 00:30:29,655 San Diego as we celebrate our 554 00:30:29,655 --> 00:30:31,655 40th anniversary. 555 00:30:34,826 --> 00:30:35,494 Celebrating anniversaries are 556 00:30:35,494 --> 00:30:36,195 no short milestone and we 557 00:30:36,195 --> 00:30:36,862 believe that the 40th year of 558 00:30:36,862 --> 00:30:39,262 operations serving San Diego 559 00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:41,133 and the mission Valley area 560 00:30:41,133 --> 00:30:41,800 helping families find homes and 561 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,800 businesses find places to to 562 00:30:46,572 --> 00:30:47,272 work and to thrive. 563 00:30:47,272 --> 00:30:47,940 It's been a great honor. 564 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:48,673 We would like to furthermore 565 00:30:48,673 --> 00:30:51,673 think elsewhere Capital for his 566 00:30:52,578 --> 00:30:53,278 tireless work and incredible 567 00:30:53,278 --> 00:30:53,979 community and just the general 568 00:30:53,979 --> 00:30:56,379 betterment of District seven. 569 00:30:58,517 --> 00:30:59,318 He's a true champion of 570 00:30:59,318 --> 00:30:59,918 the City Council as many of you 571 00:30:59,918 --> 00:31:00,452 are for our great city. 572 00:31:00,452 --> 00:31:01,860 So we thank you for 573 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,486 the proclamation and look 574 00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:05,291 forward to many more years of 575 00:31:05,291 --> 00:31:05,624 our families Business thriving 576 00:31:05,624 --> 00:31:06,570 to come. 577 00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:06,425 >> Thank you. 578 00:31:06,425 --> 00:31:07,590 Thank you. 579 00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:09,459 That does conclude public 580 00:31:10,195 --> 00:31:10,929 comment on proclamations here 581 00:31:10,929 --> 00:31:11,629 in council chambers I'm sorry 582 00:31:11,629 --> 00:31:12,297 the five minute timer going to 583 00:31:12,297 --> 00:31:14,297 those participating remotely 584 00:31:17,569 --> 00:31:18,304 starting with Blair Beekman If 585 00:31:18,304 --> 00:31:18,971 you can please email and let me 586 00:31:18,971 --> 00:31:22,571 know which item or items you 587 00:31:23,509 --> 00:31:25,909 wish to speak to. 588 00:31:28,414 --> 00:31:29,810 >> I'm Blair Beekman Happy 589 00:31:29,810 --> 00:31:29,782 student Your last day of 590 00:31:29,782 --> 00:31:33,382 the month to everyone I wanted 591 00:31:34,285 --> 00:31:34,787 to speak to the items let me 592 00:31:34,787 --> 00:31:35,286 get my board here. 593 00:31:35,286 --> 00:31:37,286 Item 30. 594 00:31:39,891 --> 00:31:40,426 Item 32 An item as final for 595 00:31:40,426 --> 00:31:42,426 about three minutes. 596 00:31:45,197 --> 00:31:45,564 >> Please proceed. 597 00:31:45,564 --> 00:31:47,564 Thank you. 598 00:31:50,836 --> 00:31:51,237 I guess it's a speak to lgbtq 599 00:31:51,237 --> 00:31:52,380 Pride month. 600 00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:54,438 Congratulations that it's here. 601 00:31:57,743 --> 00:31:58,410 I've been living in here one of 602 00:31:58,410 --> 00:31:59,144 the past few years and they 603 00:31:59,144 --> 00:32:02,744 have a great pride parade at 604 00:32:02,815 --> 00:32:03,683 the end of JUNE. 605 00:32:03,683 --> 00:32:04,490 They just had it this past 606 00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:06,490 Saturday. 607 00:32:08,521 --> 00:32:09,255 There it was easily over You 608 00:32:09,255 --> 00:32:09,989 know, 1500 people in the parade 609 00:32:09,989 --> 00:32:13,589 in the MARCH big all around 610 00:32:14,526 --> 00:32:14,960 the downtown area And it's a 611 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,527 big festival. 612 00:32:15,527 --> 00:32:17,927 It's really nice here. 613 00:32:20,867 --> 00:32:21,634 And so I've been learning just 614 00:32:21,634 --> 00:32:25,834 that it's a good event and I've 615 00:32:26,639 --> 00:32:27,306 been enjoying it here And so I 616 00:32:27,306 --> 00:32:28,107 just wanted to mention that 617 00:32:28,107 --> 00:32:31,430 good luck and how we can think 618 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:34,643 of our good value systems in 619 00:32:36,982 --> 00:32:38,170 Gay Pride Month. 620 00:32:38,170 --> 00:32:41,721 I wanted to comment on also as 621 00:32:41,721 --> 00:32:42,421 I'm 32 the coffee bar 622 00:32:42,421 --> 00:32:42,688 Congratulations to the coffee 623 00:32:42,688 --> 00:32:44,688 bar. 624 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,270 I wanted to note that I've been 625 00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:48,694 living in Tijuana off and on 626 00:32:48,694 --> 00:32:51,998 for the past few years now. 627 00:32:51,998 --> 00:32:52,298 I've been very much enjoying it 628 00:32:52,298 --> 00:32:52,999 . 629 00:32:52,999 --> 00:32:53,599 The cafes here and the coffee 630 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,999 is mostly usually always 631 00:32:58,771 --> 00:32:59,539 organic coffee usually from 632 00:32:59,539 --> 00:33:03,509 corpus area and a note to our 633 00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:04,243 American coffee and cafe bars 634 00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:05,440 that are using organic coffee. 635 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,644 It's a lot healthier and it 636 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:09,682 just makes your body feel much 637 00:33:09,682 --> 00:33:12,820 more comfortable and better 638 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,154 good looking in American cafes 639 00:33:15,154 --> 00:33:15,454 using organic coffee more 640 00:33:15,454 --> 00:33:17,454 often. 641 00:33:20,894 --> 00:33:21,594 >> And finally I'm sure as it's 642 00:33:21,594 --> 00:33:22,295 free coffee, does our organic 643 00:33:22,295 --> 00:33:25,564 choices sound like a good bar? 644 00:33:25,564 --> 00:33:26,332 I hope we can help. 645 00:33:26,332 --> 00:33:27,000 And with items Bible for 646 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000 Alzheimer's Brain Awareness 647 00:33:35,275 --> 00:33:36,176 Month I wanted to comment on I 648 00:33:36,176 --> 00:33:36,776 guess you know to say it I grew 649 00:33:36,776 --> 00:33:39,776 up actually in my 20s. 650 00:33:40,346 --> 00:33:40,880 i'm in my late 50s now in my 651 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,614 20s I was labeled as 652 00:33:41,614 --> 00:33:44,614 schizophrenic and I fought hard 653 00:33:45,452 --> 00:33:46,850 to get out of that label And to 654 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:49,850 me Alzheimer's is kind of 655 00:33:49,723 --> 00:33:50,523 the other end of the scale of 656 00:33:50,523 --> 00:33:51,156 that in some ways and sometimes 657 00:33:51,156 --> 00:33:54,156 there's a lot of chemical 658 00:33:54,994 --> 00:33:55,394 reactions that are happening in 659 00:33:55,394 --> 00:33:56,263 one's brain. 660 00:33:56,263 --> 00:34:00,463 There is also just a mind frame 661 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,201 in how we share our social 662 00:34:01,201 --> 00:34:03,201 space and communication 663 00:34:05,438 --> 00:34:06,139 together that tends to promote 664 00:34:06,139 --> 00:34:06,573 such things as Alzheimer's and 665 00:34:06,573 --> 00:34:07,507 schizophrenia. 666 00:34:07,507 --> 00:34:11,100 We have to be I mean that's why 667 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:11,745 a part of the reason I sit up 668 00:34:11,745 --> 00:34:12,379 here every week trying to speak 669 00:34:12,379 --> 00:34:14,779 so clearly on good 670 00:34:16,820 --> 00:34:16,783 communication If we have good 671 00:34:16,783 --> 00:34:17,384 clear communication with each 672 00:34:17,384 --> 00:34:17,784 other, that's what ends 673 00:34:17,784 --> 00:34:19,784 Alzheimer's. 674 00:34:21,121 --> 00:34:21,887 That's what end schizophrenia. 675 00:34:21,887 --> 00:34:25,487 But we purposely put up walls, 676 00:34:26,693 --> 00:34:27,427 boundaries and guardrail walls 677 00:34:27,427 --> 00:34:28,940 that we don't talk to ourselves 678 00:34:28,940 --> 00:34:28,762 more often good about how we 679 00:34:28,762 --> 00:34:31,162 just communicate better with 680 00:34:31,965 --> 00:34:32,666 each other. 681 00:34:32,666 --> 00:34:33,366 It's really important and I'm 682 00:34:33,366 --> 00:34:36,366 really sorry about the recent 683 00:34:37,471 --> 00:34:37,904 lgbtq events that happened up 684 00:34:37,904 --> 00:34:38,538 in Hillcrest. 685 00:34:38,538 --> 00:34:40,538 Surveillance video caught 686 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:43,410 the people who were causing 687 00:34:43,410 --> 00:34:44,244 problems. 688 00:34:44,244 --> 00:34:44,845 >> I want to talk to public 689 00:34:44,845 --> 00:34:45,245 comment time more about 690 00:34:45,245 --> 00:34:45,645 the subject. 691 00:34:45,645 --> 00:34:47,645 I thank you. 692 00:34:48,148 --> 00:34:48,782 Thank you. 693 00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:49,516 Next is Jennifer Watson. 694 00:34:49,516 --> 00:34:50,384 If you can please let me know 695 00:34:50,384 --> 00:34:52,786 which item or items you wish to 696 00:34:52,786 --> 00:34:54,786 speak to. 697 00:34:58,425 --> 00:34:59,192 Academy for you You will have 698 00:34:59,192 --> 00:34:59,354 to unmute. 699 00:34:59,354 --> 00:34:59,559 >> There you go. 700 00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:01,559 Hello. 701 00:35:02,963 --> 00:35:07,763 Yes I am I'm on item I believe 702 00:35:08,235 --> 00:35:08,936 it's 30 the lgb choose yes 703 00:35:08,936 --> 00:35:09,803 he'll have one minute Please 704 00:35:09,803 --> 00:35:13,307 proceed I'm I just think that 705 00:35:13,307 --> 00:35:14,740 of course everyone is free to 706 00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:17,978 live their own way but what I 707 00:35:17,978 --> 00:35:18,611 do not think is appropriate is 708 00:35:18,611 --> 00:35:21,110 how they parade themselves 709 00:35:22,616 --> 00:35:23,317 through the streets in doing 710 00:35:23,317 --> 00:35:25,717 just disgusting sexual things 711 00:35:27,921 --> 00:35:28,889 Like I can't say oh well you 712 00:35:28,889 --> 00:35:32,693 can't be this but I if I can 713 00:35:32,693 --> 00:35:33,460 get arrested for doing improper 714 00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:36,460 sexual things out there like 715 00:35:38,665 --> 00:35:39,399 pulling down my pants are going 716 00:35:39,399 --> 00:35:40,134 to the bathroom on the street I 717 00:35:40,134 --> 00:35:43,134 don't believe that these people 718 00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:46,170 should be out there parading 719 00:35:48,175 --> 00:35:48,842 these what they do their their 720 00:35:48,842 --> 00:35:49,243 sexual orientation and it's 721 00:35:49,243 --> 00:35:51,243 disgusting. 722 00:35:52,845 --> 00:35:53,514 It's okay to be gay but it's 723 00:35:53,514 --> 00:35:56,514 disgusting And I don't think 724 00:35:57,584 --> 00:35:58,452 that we should have a whole 725 00:35:58,452 --> 00:36:02,520 month to to advertise that kind 726 00:36:03,290 --> 00:36:04,124 of garbage to our children. 727 00:36:04,124 --> 00:36:04,825 I mean you guys need to get 728 00:36:04,825 --> 00:36:07,825 your head straight and realize 729 00:36:08,696 --> 00:36:09,430 you gay is gay but that that 730 00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:12,430 kind of parading and disgusting 731 00:36:13,434 --> 00:36:14,201 this throughout our streets 732 00:36:14,201 --> 00:36:15,200 that's on it's that your time 733 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,838 has concluded 8700 if you can 734 00:36:17,838 --> 00:36:18,539 please unmute the five minute 735 00:36:18,539 --> 00:36:19,239 timer has also concluded there 736 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,839 are two speakers in the queue 737 00:36:22,910 --> 00:36:23,677 No additional speakers will be 738 00:36:23,677 --> 00:36:24,545 taken 8700 Please let me know 739 00:36:24,545 --> 00:36:28,470 which item or items you wish to 740 00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:30,470 speak to. 741 00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,119 Yes 3501 and 504 please. 742 00:36:35,488 --> 00:36:36,189 >> Yes I think you'll have two 743 00:36:36,189 --> 00:36:36,490 minutes please Pressing Oh I'm 744 00:36:36,490 --> 00:36:37,570 sorry. 745 00:36:37,570 --> 00:36:39,457 >> Did you say three? 746 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:40,427 Please proceed. 747 00:36:40,427 --> 00:36:42,427 Thank you. 748 00:36:44,932 --> 00:36:47,932 30 San Diego lgbtq Plus Pride 749 00:36:49,470 --> 00:36:50,370 Month There is a rainbow right 750 00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:50,838 there in that acronym. 751 00:36:50,838 --> 00:36:53,838 I just discovered that last 752 00:36:53,974 --> 00:36:54,742 night. 753 00:36:54,742 --> 00:36:58,342 It always thrills me that when 754 00:36:58,979 --> 00:36:59,613 I look at the natural world I 755 00:36:59,613 --> 00:37:02,130 see an infinite abundant 756 00:37:04,510 --> 00:37:04,785 rainbow of variety everywhere. 757 00:37:04,785 --> 00:37:07,185 Let's join together and 758 00:37:08,288 --> 00:37:09,560 celebrate the beautiful 759 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,560 tapestry of San Diego woven 760 00:37:14,895 --> 00:37:17,295 into all of life. 761 00:37:17,931 --> 00:37:18,566 Love to all as 501 Senior 762 00:37:18,566 --> 00:37:20,966 Deputy City Attorney John 763 00:37:22,103 --> 00:37:22,803 Taylor Gay I haven't Met You 764 00:37:22,803 --> 00:37:25,203 Senior Deputy City Attorney 765 00:37:28,175 --> 00:37:32,375 Taylor yet I am wowed by these 766 00:37:36,830 --> 00:37:36,851 numbers in litigation 85.2 767 00:37:36,851 --> 00:37:39,851 million recovery help the city 768 00:37:41,289 --> 00:37:44,289 collect over $250 million in t 769 00:37:45,525 --> 00:37:45,893 or t revenue for the people of 770 00:37:45,893 --> 00:37:47,893 San Diego. 771 00:37:51,499 --> 00:37:55,269 I wish we could give you back a 772 00:37:55,269 --> 00:37:58,269 percentage on all the mass. 773 00:37:59,606 --> 00:38:00,441 Thank you and also a big thank 774 00:38:00,441 --> 00:38:01,175 you to the work of the entire 775 00:38:01,175 --> 00:38:04,775 office of the city attorney You 776 00:38:05,345 --> 00:38:06,470 are always in the background 777 00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:08,447 forefront supporting the rule 778 00:38:10,170 --> 00:38:10,518 of law which is the foundation 779 00:38:10,518 --> 00:38:12,518 of our democracy. 780 00:38:15,590 --> 00:38:16,190 We appreciate it and value all 781 00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:16,690 of you at the office of 782 00:38:16,690 --> 00:38:18,690 the City Attorney. 783 00:38:20,261 --> 00:38:20,662 We love you all. 784 00:38:20,662 --> 00:38:21,496 Thank you. 785 00:38:21,496 --> 00:38:24,265 You know I'm going to go for 786 00:38:24,265 --> 00:38:28,136 I'm going to tell you a story a 787 00:38:28,136 --> 00:38:28,903 beautiful story For many years 788 00:38:28,903 --> 00:38:32,503 12 or more I had a massage 789 00:38:32,707 --> 00:38:33,374 client and she was well already 790 00:38:33,374 --> 00:38:36,974 into her 80s when I started 791 00:38:37,812 --> 00:38:40,812 with her and she developed 792 00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:42,950 Alzheimer's early on And so I, 793 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:43,485 I saw her every week 794 00:38:43,485 --> 00:38:44,520 practically And so I 795 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,520 established quite a 796 00:38:47,822 --> 00:38:48,590 relationship with her and saw 797 00:38:48,590 --> 00:38:52,190 her process And toward the end 798 00:38:52,961 --> 00:38:56,561 she didn't know me anymore And 799 00:38:57,766 --> 00:38:58,533 her daughter. 800 00:38:58,533 --> 00:38:59,301 So we talked about and her 801 00:38:59,301 --> 00:39:02,637 daughter said I want you to 802 00:39:02,637 --> 00:39:03,371 keep coming. 803 00:39:03,371 --> 00:39:04,172 And she felt Mary felt 804 00:39:04,172 --> 00:39:07,172 comfortable with me coming And 805 00:39:07,242 --> 00:39:10,242 you know what I discovered 806 00:39:11,913 --> 00:39:12,714 There was a spirit in us. 807 00:39:12,714 --> 00:39:16,184 It never ages it I discovered 808 00:39:16,184 --> 00:39:17,218 it in Mary. 809 00:39:17,218 --> 00:39:20,922 She didn't know me but she knew 810 00:39:20,922 --> 00:39:21,323 her life. 811 00:39:21,323 --> 00:39:22,156 She did. 812 00:39:22,156 --> 00:39:25,393 And I just wanted to share that 813 00:39:25,393 --> 00:39:25,827 with you that it's a difficult 814 00:39:25,827 --> 00:39:26,561 journey. 815 00:39:26,561 --> 00:39:27,229 I know that for parents and 816 00:39:27,229 --> 00:39:29,629 children and everything but 817 00:39:30,565 --> 00:39:30,866 never give up on the spirit of 818 00:39:30,866 --> 00:39:31,366 life. 819 00:39:31,366 --> 00:39:33,366 It's always there. 820 00:39:35,303 --> 00:39:35,871 It's unchanging. 821 00:39:35,871 --> 00:39:36,538 Thank you so much. 822 00:39:36,538 --> 00:39:39,538 I celebrate all the voices 823 00:39:40,242 --> 00:39:40,809 speaking today. 824 00:39:40,809 --> 00:39:41,109 Let's stick together. 825 00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:41,810 Okay. 826 00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:44,813 Love to all time has concluded 827 00:39:44,813 --> 00:39:45,446 Judy Strong If you can please 828 00:39:45,446 --> 00:39:48,446 unmute after that our last 829 00:39:49,450 --> 00:39:50,218 speaker is Amanda. 830 00:39:50,218 --> 00:39:53,218 >> Good morning City Council I 831 00:39:53,255 --> 00:39:54,220 would like to speak to item 832 00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:57,622 five for I'm glad for this 833 00:39:58,460 --> 00:39:59,940 opportunity to have a map 834 00:39:59,940 --> 00:39:59,561 focused on Alzheimer's and 835 00:39:59,561 --> 00:40:01,561 brain awareness. 836 00:40:03,532 --> 00:40:04,232 I sometimes feel that they 837 00:40:04,232 --> 00:40:07,232 should be very much separated 838 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:08,837 because brain and Alzheimer's 839 00:40:08,837 --> 00:40:11,837 and other types of debilitating 840 00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:13,909 diseases that affect the brain 841 00:40:13,909 --> 00:40:14,609 and to a certain extent 842 00:40:14,609 --> 00:40:17,609 traumatic brain injury sort of 843 00:40:17,912 --> 00:40:18,680 seem like they have their own 844 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,680 awareness and then those issues 845 00:40:22,851 --> 00:40:23,552 associated with the development 846 00:40:23,552 --> 00:40:27,152 of the brain and how important 847 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:28,690 it is to be sensitive about 848 00:40:28,690 --> 00:40:29,358 this development of young 849 00:40:29,358 --> 00:40:32,194 people growing into a young 850 00:40:32,194 --> 00:40:32,728 adult and to do the best to 851 00:40:32,728 --> 00:40:34,728 protect their brain. 852 00:40:36,465 --> 00:40:37,232 And I was reminded of the old 853 00:40:37,232 --> 00:40:37,699 adage a mind is a terrible 854 00:40:37,699 --> 00:40:39,699 thing to waste. 855 00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:42,537 This is very much a part of 856 00:40:42,537 --> 00:40:46,137 the 1970s and it's still in 857 00:40:46,241 --> 00:40:50,212 play now And I would remind us 858 00:40:50,212 --> 00:40:51,130 all that we know that at ages 859 00:40:51,130 --> 00:40:54,130 12 to 25 this is specifically a 860 00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:55,918 risky time for young people to 861 00:40:55,918 --> 00:40:56,618 smoke, vape or consume 862 00:40:56,618 --> 00:40:58,420 marijuana because the brain is 863 00:40:58,420 --> 00:40:58,787 developed over time has 864 00:40:58,787 --> 00:41:00,787 concluded. 865 00:41:03,726 --> 00:41:04,526 Amanda if you can please unmute 866 00:41:04,526 --> 00:41:08,126 please let me know which item 867 00:41:08,764 --> 00:41:11,500 or items you wish to speak to. 868 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:12,670 Yeah I am speaking that item 31 869 00:41:12,670 --> 00:41:14,670 and 32 two minutes. 870 00:41:16,505 --> 00:41:17,339 >> Please proceed. 871 00:41:17,339 --> 00:41:21,510 I just wanted to say I love 872 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:22,244 when we celebrate the heroes of 873 00:41:22,244 --> 00:41:23,110 our community and we give voice 874 00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:25,411 to underrepresented groups with 875 00:41:26,615 --> 00:41:27,483 these proclamations. 876 00:41:27,483 --> 00:41:28,150 I love it and warms my heart 877 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:31,150 Sense of community Love it, 878 00:41:31,653 --> 00:41:33,653 love it. 879 00:41:35,424 --> 00:41:36,580 However I am 31 and 32 or 880 00:41:36,580 --> 00:41:38,458 celebrating a real estate 881 00:41:40,463 --> 00:41:41,397 agency and a coffee bar. 882 00:41:41,397 --> 00:41:42,197 I would just like to say that 883 00:41:42,197 --> 00:41:45,797 when I was a small business 884 00:41:45,868 --> 00:41:46,568 owner I like many other small 885 00:41:46,568 --> 00:41:48,968 businesses, paid thousands of 886 00:41:50,339 --> 00:41:51,400 dollars and invested many hours 887 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:51,707 into marketing in the hope of 888 00:41:51,707 --> 00:41:54,943 getting just a few leads and 889 00:41:54,943 --> 00:41:55,311 drumming up just a bit of 890 00:41:55,311 --> 00:41:55,978 business. 891 00:41:55,978 --> 00:41:59,115 I wish they would have known 892 00:41:59,115 --> 00:42:00,820 that all I had to do was cozy 893 00:42:00,820 --> 00:42:00,683 up to Raul Campo so I could get 894 00:42:00,683 --> 00:42:03,830 city wide marketing on 895 00:42:04,153 --> 00:42:04,954 the taxpayer's dime. 896 00:42:04,954 --> 00:42:05,654 Raul I don't think this helps 897 00:42:05,654 --> 00:42:09,254 you beat the charges that you 898 00:42:09,392 --> 00:42:09,992 have allowed developers to 899 00:42:09,992 --> 00:42:12,392 ravage your district for 900 00:42:13,290 --> 00:42:13,763 instance the two thing the two 901 00:42:13,763 --> 00:42:16,532 single family lots next door to 902 00:42:16,532 --> 00:42:17,266 my stepdad that were replaced 903 00:42:17,266 --> 00:42:20,266 by a 26 unit development with 904 00:42:22,238 --> 00:42:22,939 no parking required as much as 905 00:42:22,939 --> 00:42:23,673 I support small businesses and 906 00:42:23,673 --> 00:42:26,843 I think our city council should 907 00:42:26,843 --> 00:42:27,510 do the same I don't think this 908 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:28,211 is an appropriate use of our 909 00:42:28,211 --> 00:42:28,811 tax dollars and hope you guys 910 00:42:28,811 --> 00:42:32,810 can find a better way to 911 00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:32,482 support small business. 912 00:42:32,482 --> 00:42:33,115 >> Thanks. 913 00:42:33,115 --> 00:42:33,783 That does conclude public 914 00:42:33,783 --> 00:42:36,183 comment on the proclamation. 915 00:42:36,385 --> 00:42:36,986 I guess all right. 916 00:42:36,986 --> 00:42:37,687 Thank you, City Clerk. 917 00:42:37,687 --> 00:42:38,354 And with that we'll turn it 918 00:42:38,354 --> 00:42:39,870 over to council members for 919 00:42:39,870 --> 00:42:41,924 comments and entertain a motion 920 00:42:41,924 --> 00:42:42,625 and we'll start with Council 921 00:42:42,625 --> 00:42:43,259 Member Campo Thank you Council 922 00:42:43,259 --> 00:42:43,960 PRESIDENT And thank you to 923 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,163 the members of the public for 924 00:42:46,163 --> 00:42:46,629 your participation today I'll 925 00:42:46,629 --> 00:42:47,363 move approval of 926 00:42:47,363 --> 00:42:49,763 the proclamations start briefly 927 00:42:51,901 --> 00:42:52,569 Absolute Lee thrilled to 928 00:42:52,569 --> 00:42:53,269 support San Diego lgbtq plus 929 00:42:53,269 --> 00:42:55,669 Pride Month Proclamation Thank 930 00:42:56,872 --> 00:42:57,207 my colleagues for bringing that 931 00:42:57,207 --> 00:42:57,907 forward. 932 00:42:57,907 --> 00:42:58,541 I cannot wait to join everyone 933 00:42:58,541 --> 00:42:59,308 on this dais at the annual 934 00:42:59,308 --> 00:43:00,910 Pride Parade in a couple of 935 00:43:00,910 --> 00:43:01,778 weeks. 936 00:43:01,778 --> 00:43:02,512 I've said it before and I'll 937 00:43:02,512 --> 00:43:05,982 say it again Pride in San Diego 938 00:43:05,982 --> 00:43:06,648 is so much more special since 939 00:43:06,648 --> 00:43:07,350 we have the entire summer to 940 00:43:07,350 --> 00:43:08,840 celebrate it both in JUNE and 941 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,321 JULY so that we can acknowledge 942 00:43:11,321 --> 00:43:11,988 the contributions of the lgbtq 943 00:43:11,988 --> 00:43:12,689 Plus community to San Diego 944 00:43:12,689 --> 00:43:15,689 whether it was serving in 945 00:43:16,492 --> 00:43:17,193 the military, serving in 946 00:43:17,193 --> 00:43:19,593 government, in education, law 947 00:43:20,296 --> 00:43:20,997 enforcement, the arts sciences 948 00:43:20,997 --> 00:43:21,598 and medicine small and big 949 00:43:21,598 --> 00:43:23,598 business hospitality and 950 00:43:25,634 --> 00:43:26,200 tourism, civil rights and civic 951 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,702 advocacy. 952 00:43:26,702 --> 00:43:27,504 And while many in power MAY be 953 00:43:27,504 --> 00:43:31,700 trying to set the lgbtq plus 954 00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:31,674 community back, nothing can 955 00:43:31,674 --> 00:43:32,308 hold us back in that pursuit 956 00:43:32,308 --> 00:43:34,708 for justice and equality. 957 00:43:34,844 --> 00:43:35,512 So happy pride San Diego and 958 00:43:35,512 --> 00:43:38,512 I'm proud to support that. 959 00:43:39,150 --> 00:43:39,616 I will also be speaking to two 960 00:43:39,616 --> 00:43:39,949 items that I'm bringing 961 00:43:39,949 --> 00:43:40,616 forward. 962 00:43:40,616 --> 00:43:41,284 I'm honored to celebrate two 963 00:43:41,284 --> 00:43:43,684 amazing businesses that are 964 00:43:44,788 --> 00:43:45,388 reaching a very nice milestone 965 00:43:45,388 --> 00:43:46,122 sions from the Grant 966 00:43:46,122 --> 00:43:46,688 neighborhood both of which were 967 00:43:46,688 --> 00:43:48,224 in chamber here today. 968 00:43:48,224 --> 00:43:48,758 First congratulations to El 969 00:43:48,758 --> 00:43:49,459 Dorado Properties on 970 00:43:49,459 --> 00:43:51,859 celebrating their 40 years of 971 00:43:52,796 --> 00:43:53,462 serving San Diego since its 972 00:43:53,462 --> 00:43:54,197 founding four decades ago In 973 00:43:54,197 --> 00:43:57,330 JUNE of 1986 this family owned 974 00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:57,734 business has built a legacy of 975 00:43:57,734 --> 00:43:58,468 integrity and professionalism 976 00:43:58,468 --> 00:44:01,638 and long term investment in our 977 00:44:01,638 --> 00:44:02,305 neighborhoods helping 978 00:44:02,305 --> 00:44:02,872 generations of families and 979 00:44:02,872 --> 00:44:03,273 putting down roots for 980 00:44:03,273 --> 00:44:05,273 businesses. 981 00:44:07,377 --> 00:44:08,770 Eldorado Properties has been a 982 00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:08,778 cornerstone of the Navajo and 983 00:44:08,778 --> 00:44:09,512 Granville communities not only 984 00:44:09,512 --> 00:44:11,912 through property management and 985 00:44:12,820 --> 00:44:12,782 real estate services but 986 00:44:12,782 --> 00:44:16,382 helping shape the area in many 987 00:44:16,853 --> 00:44:17,487 years passed their leadership 988 00:44:17,487 --> 00:44:18,121 in the long term Granville 989 00:44:18,121 --> 00:44:20,521 rezoning effort and their 990 00:44:20,957 --> 00:44:21,591 commitment to thoughtful 991 00:44:21,591 --> 00:44:22,258 redevelopment have helped 992 00:44:22,258 --> 00:44:22,859 position these neighborhoods 993 00:44:22,859 --> 00:44:25,259 for continued growth and 994 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:26,963 opportunity. 995 00:44:26,963 --> 00:44:27,630 There are working class and low 996 00:44:27,630 --> 00:44:30,500 income San Diego who have a 997 00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:31,201 home they can afford in our 998 00:44:31,201 --> 00:44:31,801 city because the Smith family 999 00:44:31,801 --> 00:44:34,801 saw a better future for 1000 00:44:35,739 --> 00:44:36,372 Granville years before people 1001 00:44:36,372 --> 00:44:37,107 started talking about it. 1002 00:44:37,107 --> 00:44:39,910 So I want to thank them Daniel, 1003 00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:40,610 Danielle and David and 1004 00:44:40,610 --> 00:44:41,278 the entire Eldorado Properties 1005 00:44:41,278 --> 00:44:41,912 team for your commitment to 1006 00:44:41,912 --> 00:44:43,912 revitalizing our community 1007 00:44:44,814 --> 00:44:45,515 projects like 1008 00:44:45,515 --> 00:44:46,183 the transformation of the long 1009 00:44:46,183 --> 00:44:46,883 vacant property on Fairmont 1010 00:44:46,883 --> 00:44:49,186 Avenue into thriving homes and 1011 00:44:49,186 --> 00:44:49,820 local small businesses 1012 00:44:49,820 --> 00:44:50,487 demonstrate that positive 1013 00:44:50,487 --> 00:44:51,530 impact that community minded 1014 00:44:51,530 --> 00:44:53,530 leadership can serve. 1015 00:44:54,257 --> 00:44:54,958 So for those decades of service 1016 00:44:54,958 --> 00:44:55,392 and investment and partnership 1017 00:44:55,392 --> 00:44:56,590 I thank them. 1018 00:44:56,590 --> 00:44:59,362 But I also want to point out 1019 00:44:59,362 --> 00:45:00,630 this the Smith family has also 1020 00:45:00,630 --> 00:45:00,730 put so much time and effort 1021 00:45:00,730 --> 00:45:03,130 into representing the Navajo 1022 00:45:04,468 --> 00:45:05,168 community as board members of 1023 00:45:05,168 --> 00:45:05,702 the Navajo Planning Group and 1024 00:45:05,702 --> 00:45:06,369 to the cpc as well. 1025 00:45:06,369 --> 00:45:08,971 There are few families that 1026 00:45:08,971 --> 00:45:09,606 have put so much time into 1027 00:45:09,606 --> 00:45:10,140 volunteering and balancing 1028 00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:10,841 the needs of diverse 1029 00:45:10,841 --> 00:45:13,241 communities of businesses and 1030 00:45:13,577 --> 00:45:14,444 residents like they have. 1031 00:45:14,444 --> 00:45:15,145 They truly know every road in 1032 00:45:15,145 --> 00:45:17,545 the community, every sidewalk 1033 00:45:18,482 --> 00:45:19,149 and park every canyon and 1034 00:45:19,149 --> 00:45:19,449 the history that comes from 1035 00:45:19,449 --> 00:45:20,150 that. 1036 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:20,817 So I congratulate them on this 1037 00:45:20,817 --> 00:45:23,217 historic milestone and wish 1038 00:45:23,754 --> 00:45:24,488 them continued success And one 1039 00:45:24,488 --> 00:45:28,580 day soon we'll get the Alvarado 1040 00:45:28,580 --> 00:45:28,725 Creek realignment done. 1041 00:45:28,725 --> 00:45:29,393 And next I'm honored to 1042 00:45:29,393 --> 00:45:32,393 celebrate s-3 Coffee Bar on 1043 00:45:32,629 --> 00:45:33,430 their 10th anniversary, Claudio 1044 00:45:33,430 --> 00:45:34,131 conquered said it better than I 1045 00:45:34,131 --> 00:45:37,533 ever could she and her family 1046 00:45:37,533 --> 00:45:38,235 and the entire s-3 coffee bar 1047 00:45:38,235 --> 00:45:38,936 team are celebrating ten years 1048 00:45:38,936 --> 00:45:39,536 of exceptional service and one 1049 00:45:39,536 --> 00:45:41,936 of District Seven's most 1050 00:45:42,139 --> 00:45:42,840 welcoming gathering places 1051 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,440 regularly packed with college 1052 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,840 students sitting next to 1053 00:45:46,643 --> 00:45:47,344 seniors who are sitting next to 1054 00:45:47,344 --> 00:45:48,780 families who are sitting next 1055 00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:48,779 to folks who own their own home 1056 00:45:48,779 --> 00:45:50,814 sitting next to folks who live 1057 00:45:50,814 --> 00:45:51,148 in permanent supportive housing 1058 00:45:51,148 --> 00:45:51,882 . 1059 00:45:51,882 --> 00:45:52,483 They serve everyone who's their 1060 00:45:52,483 --> 00:45:54,883 neighbor no matter what. 1061 00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:57,454 So what began as a neighborhood 1062 00:45:57,454 --> 00:45:58,155 coffee shop in Granville is now 1063 00:45:58,155 --> 00:46:00,555 a true community institution. 1064 00:46:01,458 --> 00:46:02,159 You don't just grab a coffee 1065 00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:02,793 there, you meet your neighbors 1066 00:46:02,793 --> 00:46:05,193 and friendships are formed 1067 00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:05,929 there And it's one of my 1068 00:46:05,929 --> 00:46:06,597 favorite places to hold a 1069 00:46:06,597 --> 00:46:09,567 coffee with Campo Town Hall. 1070 00:46:09,567 --> 00:46:10,267 So they've helped redefine 1071 00:46:10,267 --> 00:46:11,100 the character of Granville by 1072 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:13,971 creating this warm and inviting 1073 00:46:13,971 --> 00:46:14,772 space and I congratulate them 1074 00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:15,472 on their 10th year in service 1075 00:46:15,472 --> 00:46:19,720 And I know there's just many 1076 00:46:19,243 --> 00:46:19,877 more decades to come. 1077 00:46:19,877 --> 00:46:20,544 That concludes my motion. 1078 00:46:20,544 --> 00:46:21,110 Council PRESIDENT All right. 1079 00:46:21,110 --> 00:46:23,110 Thank you, sir. 1080 00:46:23,947 --> 00:46:24,581 So we have a motion by council 1081 00:46:24,581 --> 00:46:25,282 member Camp Hill to move. 1082 00:46:25,282 --> 00:46:28,282 The proclamations will go next 1083 00:46:28,819 --> 00:46:29,486 to Council member Kimball Thank 1084 00:46:29,486 --> 00:46:30,870 you Council PRESIDENT And I 1085 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:32,487 would first like to 1086 00:46:33,958 --> 00:46:34,625 congratulate everyone who's 1087 00:46:34,625 --> 00:46:37,495 receiving a plaque and every 1088 00:46:37,495 --> 00:46:38,280 group receiving a project and I 1089 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:38,429 would like to second 1090 00:46:38,429 --> 00:46:40,429 the motion. 1091 00:46:41,432 --> 00:46:42,399 I would like to speak on item 1092 00:46:42,399 --> 00:46:46,370 30 and item s5o4 And I want to 1093 00:46:46,370 --> 00:46:46,970 thank Mayor Mayor Todd Gloria 1094 00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:47,638 and all council members 1095 00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:50,408 Whitburn and Von Wilpert for 1096 00:46:50,408 --> 00:46:53,408 joining me in bringing forward 1097 00:46:54,278 --> 00:46:55,246 this proclamation for Pride 1098 00:46:55,246 --> 00:46:58,246 declares JULY 2026 is San Diego 1099 00:46:59,950 --> 00:47:00,751 lgbtq Pride Month in the City 1100 00:47:00,751 --> 00:47:04,622 of San Diego and we will be 1101 00:47:04,622 --> 00:47:05,389 celebrating all month. 1102 00:47:05,389 --> 00:47:08,989 This is truly there is nothing 1103 00:47:09,927 --> 00:47:10,795 as wonderful as joy and the joy 1104 00:47:10,795 --> 00:47:14,395 of pride in San Diego is 1105 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,320 fabulous 250,000 San Diegans 1106 00:47:20,605 --> 00:47:24,205 gay and straight of all creeds, 1107 00:47:24,742 --> 00:47:25,443 all colors show up to enjoy 1108 00:47:25,443 --> 00:47:26,244 the celebration of pride And 1109 00:47:26,244 --> 00:47:29,244 this is celebrated because for 1110 00:47:30,414 --> 00:47:31,282 so long as Audra mentioned 1111 00:47:31,282 --> 00:47:34,882 things like this were not even 1112 00:47:35,153 --> 00:47:35,787 mentioned And it's very 1113 00:47:35,787 --> 00:47:36,387 important that we not have 1114 00:47:36,387 --> 00:47:36,721 these kinds of things as 1115 00:47:36,721 --> 00:47:38,721 secrets. 1116 00:47:39,957 --> 00:47:40,625 We need to know what really 1117 00:47:40,625 --> 00:47:44,225 exists in the world and that 1118 00:47:44,962 --> 00:47:45,663 it's okay As a gay person I can 1119 00:47:45,663 --> 00:47:49,263 tell you how I struggled with 1120 00:47:49,534 --> 00:47:50,401 this because I'm 81 years old 1121 00:47:50,401 --> 00:47:53,438 so I can tell you that it took 1122 00:47:53,438 --> 00:47:54,205 me a long time to accept myself 1123 00:47:54,205 --> 00:47:55,373 but I was born this way and 1124 00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:59,573 Lady Gaga said it and she was 1125 00:48:00,945 --> 00:48:01,713 right. 1126 00:48:01,713 --> 00:48:04,713 We are being our authentic 1127 00:48:05,950 --> 00:48:06,584 selves and we want everyone to 1128 00:48:06,584 --> 00:48:07,285 be their authentic self no 1129 00:48:07,285 --> 00:48:07,552 matter what kind of self they 1130 00:48:07,552 --> 00:48:09,552 are. 1131 00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:14,225 We are accepting in this 1132 00:48:14,225 --> 00:48:16,625 community especially in San 1133 00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:18,463 Diego has provided safety, 1134 00:48:18,463 --> 00:48:19,630 acceptance and refuge for 1135 00:48:19,630 --> 00:48:21,630 countless people seeking 1136 00:48:22,533 --> 00:48:23,340 the freedom to live as their 1137 00:48:23,340 --> 00:48:23,768 authentic selves. 1138 00:48:23,768 --> 00:48:26,768 The progress we celebrate today 1139 00:48:27,605 --> 00:48:28,273 was fought for by generations 1140 00:48:28,273 --> 00:48:31,273 of advocates and leaders who 1141 00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:32,710 paved the way for us as we 1142 00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:33,378 gather this year we recognize 1143 00:48:33,378 --> 00:48:36,714 that many of the rights and 1144 00:48:36,714 --> 00:48:37,215 freedoms we fought for are now 1145 00:48:37,215 --> 00:48:37,916 being challenged. 1146 00:48:37,916 --> 00:48:40,916 Yet our community continues to 1147 00:48:41,586 --> 00:48:42,253 do what it has always done. 1148 00:48:42,253 --> 00:48:45,253 We will show up with 1149 00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:47,459 resilience, courage and joy 1150 00:48:47,459 --> 00:48:51,529 because even joy is an act of 1151 00:48:51,529 --> 00:48:52,397 resistance. 1152 00:48:52,397 --> 00:48:53,980 We must never allow anyone to 1153 00:48:53,980 --> 00:48:55,366 take away our ability to love, 1154 00:48:55,366 --> 00:48:59,566 to be happy or to be exactly 1155 00:49:00,538 --> 00:49:01,406 who we are. 1156 00:49:01,406 --> 00:49:02,730 I also would like to speak on 1157 00:49:02,730 --> 00:49:04,943 Item s5 Over for Alzheimer's 1158 00:49:04,943 --> 00:49:05,810 and Brain Awareness Month. 1159 00:49:05,810 --> 00:49:06,478 It is so important to continue 1160 00:49:06,478 --> 00:49:08,878 to acknowledge the suffering 1161 00:49:09,881 --> 00:49:10,582 that Alzheimer's disease can 1162 00:49:10,582 --> 00:49:14,182 cause not only among our older 1163 00:49:14,919 --> 00:49:15,553 population who suffer from it 1164 00:49:15,553 --> 00:49:16,253 but from the families and 1165 00:49:16,253 --> 00:49:19,253 the caregivers who help those 1166 00:49:19,724 --> 00:49:20,580 who have this terrible disease 1167 00:49:20,580 --> 00:49:20,659 . 1168 00:49:20,659 --> 00:49:23,590 We praise the scientific 1169 00:49:24,629 --> 00:49:25,396 medical research that can 1170 00:49:25,396 --> 00:49:28,396 continue to find causes and 1171 00:49:29,467 --> 00:49:31,467 treatment for this. 1172 00:49:33,405 --> 00:49:34,172 And as of 2025 there were 1173 00:49:34,172 --> 00:49:34,873 75,000 San Diego and as Ron 1174 00:49:34,873 --> 00:49:37,873 said, who are living with 1175 00:49:38,375 --> 00:49:39,440 Alzheimer's disease. 1176 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:39,778 Many family members of 1177 00:49:39,778 --> 00:49:42,778 the people with Alzheimer's are 1178 00:49:43,414 --> 00:49:44,116 so affected they often have to 1179 00:49:44,116 --> 00:49:47,716 leave their jobs to give full 1180 00:49:48,353 --> 00:49:48,954 time unpaid care to the loved 1181 00:49:48,954 --> 00:49:49,688 one with Alzheimer's by 1182 00:49:49,688 --> 00:49:52,880 recognizing and Alzheimer's and 1183 00:49:53,225 --> 00:49:53,825 brain Awareness Month, we're 1184 00:49:53,825 --> 00:49:55,825 reaffirming San Diego's 1185 00:49:57,495 --> 00:49:58,163 commitment to supporting people 1186 00:49:58,163 --> 00:49:58,696 affected by Alzheimer's and 1187 00:49:58,696 --> 00:50:00,696 other dementias and 1188 00:50:02,834 --> 00:50:03,635 the importance of continued 1189 00:50:03,635 --> 00:50:04,303 research so that we can improve 1190 00:50:04,303 --> 00:50:07,303 the means of diagnosis and 1191 00:50:07,906 --> 00:50:08,507 hopefully find a cure. 1192 00:50:08,507 --> 00:50:08,874 >> Thank you, Council 1193 00:50:08,874 --> 00:50:09,241 PRESIDENT. 1194 00:50:09,241 --> 00:50:11,241 All right. 1195 00:50:13,345 --> 00:50:14,790 Thank you. 1196 00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:14,713 So we have a motion by 1197 00:50:14,713 --> 00:50:15,314 Councilmember Campo and a 1198 00:50:15,314 --> 00:50:15,681 second by council member 1199 00:50:15,681 --> 00:50:16,315 Campbell. 1200 00:50:16,315 --> 00:50:18,616 We'll go next to our city 1201 00:50:18,616 --> 00:50:18,983 attorney. 1202 00:50:18,983 --> 00:50:19,484 Thank you. 1203 00:50:19,484 --> 00:50:20,185 Council PRESIDENT. 1204 00:50:20,185 --> 00:50:20,485 I'd like to speak on item s5o1 1205 00:50:20,485 --> 00:50:22,485 today. 1206 00:50:23,221 --> 00:50:23,854 It is my honor to recognize 1207 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:24,455 the remarkable career and 1208 00:50:24,455 --> 00:50:26,855 service of John Taylor. 1209 00:50:27,459 --> 00:50:28,160 For more than 19 years John 1210 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:28,927 Taylor has served the city of 1211 00:50:28,927 --> 00:50:32,297 San Diego as a deputy city 1212 00:50:32,297 --> 00:50:33,980 attorney with great dedication. 1213 00:50:33,980 --> 00:50:35,933 John is retiring after more 1214 00:50:35,933 --> 00:50:36,602 than 34 years in the legal 1215 00:50:36,602 --> 00:50:39,200 profession building a legacy 1216 00:50:40,772 --> 00:50:41,373 defined by professionalism, 1217 00:50:41,373 --> 00:50:42,400 diligence and integrity. 1218 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,543 He is a lifelong San Diegan. 1219 00:50:45,543 --> 00:50:46,178 He grew up in University City 1220 00:50:46,178 --> 00:50:46,812 in La Hoya attending Marie 1221 00:50:46,812 --> 00:50:49,212 Curie Elementary, La Hoya 1222 00:50:49,948 --> 00:50:50,649 Country de Maryland's Junior 1223 00:50:50,649 --> 00:50:54,249 High and La Hoya High School. 1224 00:50:54,486 --> 00:50:55,154 Throughout his tenure with 1225 00:50:55,154 --> 00:50:55,853 the city attorney's office, 1226 00:50:55,853 --> 00:50:56,522 John represented the city with 1227 00:50:56,522 --> 00:50:59,522 great skill and tenacity for 1228 00:50:59,958 --> 00:51:00,291 the majority of the cases he 1229 00:51:00,291 --> 00:51:00,993 handled. 1230 00:51:00,993 --> 00:51:01,694 John represented the city as a 1231 00:51:01,694 --> 00:51:04,940 plaintiff in contract disputes 1232 00:51:04,763 --> 00:51:05,464 and complex construction 1233 00:51:05,464 --> 00:51:06,164 litigation frequently going up 1234 00:51:06,164 --> 00:51:08,164 against well-funded companies 1235 00:51:09,334 --> 00:51:09,934 and their big law attorneys 1236 00:51:09,934 --> 00:51:10,636 through negotiations and 1237 00:51:10,636 --> 00:51:13,360 litigation with online travel 1238 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:14,406 companies and short term rental 1239 00:51:14,406 --> 00:51:15,400 platforms. 1240 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:15,741 John also helped the city 1241 00:51:15,741 --> 00:51:18,141 collect millions in transient 1242 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:19,811 occupancy tax revenue. 1243 00:51:19,811 --> 00:51:20,579 But beyond the numbers, what 1244 00:51:20,579 --> 00:51:23,983 stands out most is the way John 1245 00:51:23,983 --> 00:51:24,650 showed up in the office And for 1246 00:51:24,650 --> 00:51:25,183 his colleagues who mentioned 1247 00:51:25,183 --> 00:51:27,183 his mentorship, his 1248 00:51:28,687 --> 00:51:29,388 collaborative spirit and his 1249 00:51:29,388 --> 00:51:30,122 commitment to public service. 1250 00:51:30,122 --> 00:51:33,158 His presence has helped shape a 1251 00:51:33,158 --> 00:51:33,893 positive positive culture and 1252 00:51:33,893 --> 00:51:34,560 the city attorney's office that 1253 00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:34,960 will continue long after his 1254 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,960 retirement. 1255 00:51:38,330 --> 00:51:38,930 And of course John is not 1256 00:51:38,930 --> 00:51:39,465 walking this path alone. 1257 00:51:39,465 --> 00:51:41,465 He deeply appreciate 1258 00:51:42,735 --> 00:51:43,436 the support of his colleagues 1259 00:51:43,436 --> 00:51:44,203 and his family and friends. 1260 00:51:44,203 --> 00:51:44,770 Here with John are his wife 1261 00:51:44,770 --> 00:51:47,170 Tammy and his parents. 1262 00:51:49,141 --> 00:51:49,808 John at home his two children 1263 00:51:49,808 --> 00:51:50,443 couldn't be here but I know 1264 00:51:50,443 --> 00:51:50,775 they're cheering him on in 1265 00:51:50,775 --> 00:51:52,478 spirit. 1266 00:51:52,478 --> 00:51:53,111 I'm happy to celebrate senior 1267 00:51:53,111 --> 00:51:53,812 Deputy City Attorney John 1268 00:51:53,812 --> 00:51:54,112 Taylor Day and the city of San 1269 00:51:54,112 --> 00:51:55,447 Diego. 1270 00:51:55,447 --> 00:51:57,847 Congratulations, John and thank 1271 00:52:19,672 --> 00:52:20,506 you for your service. 1272 00:52:20,506 --> 00:52:21,207 Now John, I know you're kind of 1273 00:52:21,207 --> 00:52:24,443 shy and it's hard for you to 1274 00:52:24,443 --> 00:52:25,144 take all this at elation, but 1275 00:52:25,144 --> 00:52:25,444 give us a couple of words. 1276 00:52:25,444 --> 00:52:27,444 Yeah. 1277 00:52:29,549 --> 00:52:29,849 Thank you so much for the warm 1278 00:52:29,849 --> 00:52:30,449 words. 1279 00:52:30,449 --> 00:52:31,150 City Attorney Ferber and 1280 00:52:31,150 --> 00:52:34,150 Council member Von Wilpert for 1281 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,870 also sponsoring the commission. 1282 00:52:35,870 --> 00:52:35,655 First I'd like to congratulate 1283 00:52:35,655 --> 00:52:36,189 everyone else who got 1284 00:52:36,189 --> 00:52:38,189 proclamation today. 1285 00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:40,260 That's a big deal. 1286 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:40,726 I want to thank Tammy and my 1287 00:52:40,726 --> 00:52:43,463 parents for being here because 1288 00:52:43,463 --> 00:52:43,763 Tammy went on this journey with 1289 00:52:43,763 --> 00:52:44,530 me. 1290 00:52:44,530 --> 00:52:45,197 >> We got married after my 1291 00:52:45,197 --> 00:52:45,898 first year in law school and 1292 00:52:45,898 --> 00:52:46,432 she's been there for the whole 1293 00:52:46,432 --> 00:52:48,432 ride throughout it. 1294 00:52:49,334 --> 00:52:49,969 And my book club guys, I am 1295 00:52:49,969 --> 00:52:50,269 surprised that they're all 1296 00:52:50,269 --> 00:52:50,970 here. 1297 00:52:50,970 --> 00:52:53,706 These are guys who I went to 1298 00:52:53,706 --> 00:52:54,407 junior high and high school 1299 00:52:54,407 --> 00:52:54,774 with and so we're together and 1300 00:52:54,774 --> 00:52:56,774 it's fun. 1301 00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:58,810 And lastly I want to thank you 1302 00:52:58,810 --> 00:52:59,512 know, I couldn't have done all 1303 00:52:59,512 --> 00:53:00,179 this without the team And that 1304 00:53:00,179 --> 00:53:03,179 team is the city attorney's 1305 00:53:03,383 --> 00:53:04,250 office. 1306 00:53:04,250 --> 00:53:04,917 And so a special thanks to my 1307 00:53:04,917 --> 00:53:07,317 current secretary Sue Benson 1308 00:53:08,221 --> 00:53:08,955 who's been with me for probably 1309 00:53:08,955 --> 00:53:09,489 10 or 11 years Danielle Posset 1310 00:53:09,489 --> 00:53:11,489 who's my paralegal. 1311 00:53:13,292 --> 00:53:13,960 She'd been with me for about 15 1312 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:14,294 years and currently Eric and 1313 00:53:14,294 --> 00:53:16,294 Grandy. 1314 00:53:17,330 --> 00:53:18,310 And actually Sean Brown is here 1315 00:53:18,310 --> 00:53:18,330 who was my investigator for 11 1316 00:53:18,330 --> 00:53:18,865 years. 1317 00:53:18,865 --> 00:53:20,865 He retired in 2019. 1318 00:53:22,435 --> 00:53:23,168 So this is a special day. 1319 00:53:23,168 --> 00:53:23,469 >> It is the coolest thing 1320 00:53:23,469 --> 00:53:25,469 ever. 1321 00:53:41,721 --> 00:53:42,322 And thank you so much. 1322 00:53:42,322 --> 00:53:42,889 >> All right. 1323 00:53:42,889 --> 00:53:43,590 Thank you for that. 1324 00:53:43,590 --> 00:53:44,230 And we'll go next to council 1325 00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:46,230 member weapon. 1326 00:53:46,461 --> 00:53:46,960 Thank you very much. 1327 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:47,627 Council PRESIDENT. 1328 00:53:47,627 --> 00:53:48,294 I want to thank our council 1329 00:53:48,294 --> 00:53:50,294 PRESIDENT And Councilmember 1330 00:53:50,530 --> 00:53:51,197 Campbell for bringing forward 1331 00:53:51,197 --> 00:53:51,931 the proclamation recognizing 1332 00:53:51,931 --> 00:53:52,232 Alzheimer's and Brain Awareness 1333 00:53:52,232 --> 00:53:54,232 Month. 1334 00:53:56,302 --> 00:53:57,360 Alzheimer's disease affects 1335 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:57,670 thousands of San Diego families 1336 00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:59,973 and I want to thank all 1337 00:53:59,973 --> 00:54:00,707 the organizations like 1338 00:54:00,707 --> 00:54:01,341 the Alzheimer's Association and 1339 00:54:01,341 --> 00:54:03,741 others that support these 1340 00:54:05,611 --> 00:54:06,313 families who are often 1341 00:54:06,313 --> 00:54:06,612 caregiving for a loved one at 1342 00:54:06,612 --> 00:54:08,612 home. 1343 00:54:10,383 --> 00:54:11,500 There has been a lot of 1344 00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:11,751 impressive breakthroughs in 1345 00:54:11,751 --> 00:54:12,452 treatment recently, but there 1346 00:54:12,452 --> 00:54:15,522 is so much more to do in terms 1347 00:54:15,522 --> 00:54:16,189 of research and I appreciate 1348 00:54:16,189 --> 00:54:16,756 everybody who is working so 1349 00:54:16,756 --> 00:54:19,156 hard to support that. 1350 00:54:21,361 --> 00:54:22,940 Thank you to the mayor and my 1351 00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:22,828 colleagues for bringing forward 1352 00:54:22,828 --> 00:54:24,828 the proclamation congratulating 1353 00:54:25,132 --> 00:54:25,832 Council General R.D. De Castro 1354 00:54:25,832 --> 00:54:26,466 for his outstanding work as 1355 00:54:26,466 --> 00:54:26,933 honorary Consul General of 1356 00:54:26,933 --> 00:54:28,933 the Philippines. 1357 00:54:30,570 --> 00:54:31,171 Now more than ever, diplomacy 1358 00:54:31,171 --> 00:54:34,171 is necessary to not only 1359 00:54:34,974 --> 00:54:35,574 establish strong bilateral 1360 00:54:35,574 --> 00:54:36,309 relations but also to 1361 00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:36,977 understand and support the many 1362 00:54:36,977 --> 00:54:39,377 nationalities that call our 1363 00:54:39,646 --> 00:54:40,412 city home. 1364 00:54:40,412 --> 00:54:41,114 We're lucky to have a great 1365 00:54:41,114 --> 00:54:44,114 example of this Consul General 1366 00:54:44,584 --> 00:54:45,251 de Castro. 1367 00:54:45,251 --> 00:54:45,986 I do appreciate the city 1368 00:54:45,986 --> 00:54:46,653 attorney and Councilmember Vogt 1369 00:54:46,653 --> 00:54:49,530 Wilpert for bringing forward 1370 00:54:49,522 --> 00:54:50,224 the recognition for a deputy 1371 00:54:50,224 --> 00:54:50,891 city attorney John Taylor Day. 1372 00:54:50,891 --> 00:54:53,827 I would like to congratulate 1373 00:54:53,827 --> 00:54:54,194 MR. Taylor on 19 years at 1374 00:54:54,194 --> 00:54:54,894 the city. 1375 00:54:54,894 --> 00:54:58,131 Thank you for your service and 1376 00:54:58,131 --> 00:54:58,865 enjoy your retirement. 1377 00:54:58,865 --> 00:54:59,599 Now let me thank everybody who 1378 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:02,599 is here for the proclamation 1379 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:03,403 recognizing San Diego lgbt 1380 00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:04,400 Pride Month. 1381 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,400 Over the years the lgbtq 1382 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,542 community has made great 1383 00:55:08,542 --> 00:55:09,309 progress in our journey toward 1384 00:55:09,309 --> 00:55:12,309 equality and that is especially 1385 00:55:12,746 --> 00:55:13,646 true here in San Diego. 1386 00:55:13,646 --> 00:55:14,348 I am proud that we have a mayor 1387 00:55:14,348 --> 00:55:17,348 and three council members who 1388 00:55:17,651 --> 00:55:18,170 are members of the lgbtq 1389 00:55:18,170 --> 00:55:18,685 community. 1390 00:55:18,685 --> 00:55:19,386 In fact the district that I 1391 00:55:19,386 --> 00:55:21,786 represent has been represented 1392 00:55:22,855 --> 00:55:23,256 by a member the lgbtq community 1393 00:55:23,256 --> 00:55:25,256 since 1993. 1394 00:55:27,761 --> 00:55:28,395 Chris Kehoe was elected to 1395 00:55:28,395 --> 00:55:29,290 represent this district 33 1396 00:55:29,290 --> 00:55:29,363 years ago followed by Toni 1397 00:55:29,363 --> 00:55:31,363 Atkins. 1398 00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:33,467 Todd Gloria and Chris Ward 1399 00:55:33,467 --> 00:55:34,134 before me. 1400 00:55:34,134 --> 00:55:37,134 Maybe the district that has 1401 00:55:37,237 --> 00:55:37,871 been most extensively 1402 00:55:37,871 --> 00:55:38,505 represented by a member of 1403 00:55:38,505 --> 00:55:41,505 the lgbtq community in our 1404 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:42,775 country. 1405 00:55:42,775 --> 00:55:43,577 Just as importantly, I am proud 1406 00:55:43,577 --> 00:55:47,177 that every single one of my 1407 00:55:47,181 --> 00:55:47,915 colleagues on this council who 1408 00:55:47,915 --> 00:55:48,549 do not have the good fortune of 1409 00:55:48,549 --> 00:55:51,549 being members of the lgbtq 1410 00:55:51,752 --> 00:55:52,186 community are staunch allies of 1411 00:55:52,186 --> 00:55:52,919 our community. 1412 00:55:52,919 --> 00:55:55,919 They are vocal supporters of 1413 00:55:56,624 --> 00:55:57,357 the lgbtq community. 1414 00:55:57,357 --> 00:55:58,920 They attend community events 1415 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,562 and they are part of the reason 1416 00:56:01,562 --> 00:56:02,263 why San Diego is one of 1417 00:56:02,263 --> 00:56:02,696 the most lgbtq friendly cities 1418 00:56:02,696 --> 00:56:04,696 in the nation. 1419 00:56:05,966 --> 00:56:06,734 I am grateful to them. 1420 00:56:06,734 --> 00:56:07,100 I'm also grateful to all of 1421 00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:07,768 you. 1422 00:56:07,768 --> 00:56:10,705 You are also a big part of 1423 00:56:10,705 --> 00:56:11,238 the reason why this is such an 1424 00:56:11,238 --> 00:56:12,720 lgbt friendly city. 1425 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:12,740 Thank you to all of you who 1426 00:56:12,740 --> 00:56:14,740 represent organizations that 1427 00:56:15,775 --> 00:56:16,543 serve the lgbtq community. 1428 00:56:16,543 --> 00:56:19,543 The Center say Diego Pride 1429 00:56:19,947 --> 00:56:20,648 The Imperial Court, all of our 1430 00:56:20,648 --> 00:56:21,348 city employees who are members 1431 00:56:21,348 --> 00:56:24,948 of the lgbtq community and so 1432 00:56:24,985 --> 00:56:25,686 many more to collaborate. 1433 00:56:25,686 --> 00:56:29,286 Ramirez, who is one of our 1434 00:56:29,857 --> 00:56:30,657 community's trailblazers, is 1435 00:56:30,657 --> 00:56:31,425 here to call, was a co-founder 1436 00:56:31,425 --> 00:56:31,925 of San Diego Pride more than a 1437 00:56:31,925 --> 00:56:33,925 half century ago. 1438 00:56:34,662 --> 00:56:35,290 I think 1974 if I'm not 1439 00:56:35,290 --> 00:56:35,729 mistaken. 1440 00:56:35,729 --> 00:56:38,729 He's here with this year's 1441 00:56:39,433 --> 00:56:40,234 Pride titleholders. 1442 00:56:40,234 --> 00:56:40,734 We had a ceremony honoring them 1443 00:56:40,734 --> 00:56:43,134 a short time ago. 1444 00:56:44,338 --> 00:56:45,138 It's particularly important 1445 00:56:45,138 --> 00:56:45,906 that all of you are so visible 1446 00:56:45,906 --> 00:56:48,906 and I'm grateful that my 1447 00:56:49,143 --> 00:56:49,543 colleagues are vocal during 1448 00:56:49,543 --> 00:56:50,144 these times. 1449 00:56:50,144 --> 00:56:52,544 I mentioned the progress 1450 00:56:53,447 --> 00:56:54,348 the community has made but we 1451 00:56:54,348 --> 00:56:54,715 have a long way to go around 1452 00:56:54,715 --> 00:56:56,715 the world. 1453 00:56:58,886 --> 00:56:59,487 Same sex relationships remain 1454 00:56:59,487 --> 00:57:00,221 illegal in more than 60 1455 00:57:00,221 --> 00:57:00,554 countries and in nearly a dozen 1456 00:57:00,554 --> 00:57:02,554 of them. 1457 00:57:04,625 --> 00:57:04,925 Being gay is punishable by 1458 00:57:04,925 --> 00:57:05,593 death. 1459 00:57:05,593 --> 00:57:06,292 It's hard to wrap your head 1460 00:57:06,292 --> 00:57:09,230 around that this day and age. 1461 00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:09,864 But in nearly a dozen countries 1462 00:57:09,864 --> 00:57:10,164 being gay is punishable by 1463 00:57:10,164 --> 00:57:10,998 death. 1464 00:57:10,998 --> 00:57:13,300 And here at home we continue to 1465 00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:13,901 see efforts to dehumanize and 1466 00:57:13,901 --> 00:57:14,468 discriminate against our 1467 00:57:14,468 --> 00:57:16,468 transgender siblings. 1468 00:57:18,706 --> 00:57:19,407 We continue to see things like 1469 00:57:19,407 --> 00:57:19,974 the eggs thrown at members of 1470 00:57:19,974 --> 00:57:22,374 the lgbtq community in 1471 00:57:22,810 --> 00:57:23,777 Hillcrest. 1472 00:57:23,777 --> 00:57:24,745 A couple of weekends ago we had 1473 00:57:24,745 --> 00:57:28,516 somebody a year or two ago come 1474 00:57:28,516 --> 00:57:29,116 by and shoot pellet guns at 1475 00:57:29,116 --> 00:57:29,584 people standing outside 1476 00:57:29,584 --> 00:57:30,318 the bars there. 1477 00:57:30,318 --> 00:57:32,453 I'm just sick and tired of that 1478 00:57:32,453 --> 00:57:33,154 folks. 1479 00:57:33,154 --> 00:57:33,888 These were teenagers a couple 1480 00:57:33,888 --> 00:57:34,222 of weekends ago who should know 1481 00:57:34,222 --> 00:57:36,222 better. 1482 00:57:37,124 --> 00:57:37,825 From what I know they are 1483 00:57:37,825 --> 00:57:40,825 generally bright kids who went 1484 00:57:41,963 --> 00:57:42,730 to really good schools. 1485 00:57:42,730 --> 00:57:46,330 And here they are throwing eggs 1486 00:57:46,700 --> 00:57:47,168 at members of the lgbtq 1487 00:57:47,168 --> 00:57:47,969 community. 1488 00:57:47,969 --> 00:57:48,770 I'm glad they were caught and I 1489 00:57:48,770 --> 00:57:51,606 hope that somebody talk some 1490 00:57:51,606 --> 00:57:52,373 sense into them. 1491 00:57:52,373 --> 00:57:53,400 And of course at the national 1492 00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,400 level the lgbtq community is 1493 00:57:56,777 --> 00:57:57,512 seeing its rights chipped away 1494 00:57:57,512 --> 00:57:59,912 by this federal administration, 1495 00:58:01,148 --> 00:58:01,783 by the Supreme Court and a 1496 00:58:01,783 --> 00:58:02,830 ruling that was announced 1497 00:58:02,830 --> 00:58:02,816 today. 1498 00:58:02,816 --> 00:58:06,200 So as we celebrate say Diego 1499 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,620 Pride, we can be grateful at 1500 00:58:10,491 --> 00:58:11,259 the progress that we have made 1501 00:58:11,259 --> 00:58:11,959 and grateful that we live in 1502 00:58:11,959 --> 00:58:12,359 such an lgbt friendly city as 1503 00:58:12,359 --> 00:58:14,359 San Diego. 1504 00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:19,230 But also be motivated to fight 1505 00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:20,301 for the rights of our community 1506 00:58:20,301 --> 00:58:20,835 ,the rights of our community 1507 00:58:20,835 --> 00:58:21,202 and every community. 1508 00:58:21,202 --> 00:58:23,202 Thank you. 1509 00:58:25,390 --> 00:58:25,707 Council PRESIDENT Wright Thank 1510 00:58:25,707 --> 00:58:26,441 you Council member Whitburn. 1511 00:58:26,441 --> 00:58:29,310 We'll go next to Council member 1512 00:58:29,310 --> 00:58:29,810 Isla Rivera. 1513 00:58:29,810 --> 00:58:30,211 >> All right. 1514 00:58:30,211 --> 00:58:31,450 Thank you. 1515 00:58:31,450 --> 00:58:34,450 Council PRESIDENT Um thank you 1516 00:58:34,749 --> 00:58:35,516 to everyone who came out here 1517 00:58:35,516 --> 00:58:38,516 who's been recognized and is 1518 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:39,721 supporting those who are being 1519 00:58:39,721 --> 00:58:41,721 recognized this morning. 1520 00:58:42,456 --> 00:58:43,910 I'll start with item 30. 1521 00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:45,910 Appreciate councilmembers 1522 00:58:46,928 --> 00:58:47,528 Campbell Whitburn and Van 1523 00:58:47,528 --> 00:58:49,528 Wilpert bringing forward 1524 00:58:51,766 --> 00:58:52,434 the San Diego lgbtq pride Month 1525 00:58:52,434 --> 00:58:54,434 Proclamation in partnership 1526 00:58:56,438 --> 00:58:57,105 with Mayor Gloria. 1527 00:58:57,105 --> 00:58:59,505 I appreciate your comments. 1528 00:59:02,277 --> 00:59:02,976 COUNCILMAN Whitburn I always 1529 00:59:02,976 --> 00:59:03,511 appreciate the acknowledgment 1530 00:59:03,511 --> 00:59:05,911 of allyship and your 1531 00:59:07,249 --> 00:59:07,916 recognition of it and I think 1532 00:59:07,916 --> 00:59:11,516 I've been really proud to be 1533 00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:12,754 part of a council where we've 1534 00:59:12,754 --> 00:59:14,122 been united in demonstrating 1535 00:59:14,122 --> 00:59:17,122 our support for the community 1536 00:59:20,729 --> 00:59:24,929 and it it's striking to me that 1537 00:59:25,433 --> 00:59:28,433 you we say things like 1538 00:59:29,404 --> 00:59:30,105 the advance of civil rights 1539 00:59:30,105 --> 00:59:33,105 can't be taken for granted. 1540 00:59:34,809 --> 00:59:35,544 We talk about arc of history 1541 00:59:35,544 --> 00:59:36,211 bending toward justice but that 1542 00:59:36,211 --> 00:59:38,611 not necessarily being linear 1543 00:59:39,147 --> 00:59:39,848 and this definitely feels like 1544 00:59:39,848 --> 00:59:40,614 one of those moments And even 1545 00:59:40,614 --> 00:59:43,614 the conversation this morning I 1546 00:59:43,919 --> 00:59:46,919 think I heard more rhetoric 1547 00:59:48,723 --> 00:59:49,424 that was not just ignorant but 1548 00:59:49,424 --> 00:59:51,824 hateful toward the lgbt 1549 00:59:54,129 --> 00:59:54,729 community than I've heard in 1550 00:59:54,729 --> 00:59:57,129 previous years And that 1551 00:59:58,333 --> 00:59:59,670 certainly is a is a warning 1552 00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:59,768 signal of why it's so important 1553 00:59:59,768 --> 01:00:03,368 for us to stand in solidarity, 1554 01:00:03,672 --> 01:00:04,390 in support of people being who 1555 01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:04,739 they are. 1556 01:00:04,739 --> 01:00:07,139 COUNCILMAN Campbell, thank you 1557 01:00:08,610 --> 01:00:12,210 for sharing your your story And 1558 01:00:12,948 --> 01:00:13,548 I couldn't be more proud to 1559 01:00:13,548 --> 01:00:14,316 serve with you all. 1560 01:00:14,316 --> 01:00:14,916 I couldn't be more proud of 1561 01:00:14,916 --> 01:00:17,753 the way that San Diego 1562 01:00:17,753 --> 01:00:18,453 celebrates pride for anyone 1563 01:00:18,453 --> 01:00:21,453 who's actually been out there 1564 01:00:22,424 --> 01:00:22,958 with the exception of those who 1565 01:00:22,958 --> 01:00:24,958 are being hateful. 1566 01:00:26,228 --> 01:00:30,428 It is one of the most family 1567 01:00:30,465 --> 01:00:31,166 friendly, celebratory just 1568 01:00:31,166 --> 01:00:34,166 positive events that I've ever 1569 01:00:35,504 --> 01:00:36,538 been a part of anywhere. 1570 01:00:36,538 --> 01:00:40,409 It feels like love and I think 1571 01:00:40,409 --> 01:00:41,109 it's the exact sort of thing we 1572 01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:44,513 should want more of in this 1573 01:00:44,513 --> 01:00:45,380 city, not less of. 1574 01:00:45,380 --> 01:00:48,980 And so I'm glad we're where 1575 01:00:49,818 --> 01:00:50,519 we're doing what we're doing 1576 01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:51,186 today and we'll be doing what 1577 01:00:51,186 --> 01:00:54,786 we'll be doing over the next 1578 01:00:54,790 --> 01:00:55,491 month And I'm not going to 1579 01:00:55,491 --> 01:00:59,910 apologize for that and I don't 1580 01:00:59,161 --> 01:01:00,940 think anyone should. 1581 01:01:00,940 --> 01:01:04,294 Last but not least thank you to 1582 01:01:04,533 --> 01:01:04,899 MR. Taylor for your service to 1583 01:01:04,899 --> 01:01:05,467 the city. 1584 01:01:05,467 --> 01:01:07,867 I very much appreciate 1585 01:01:09,204 --> 01:01:12,204 everything you've done for us. 1586 01:01:13,842 --> 01:01:14,476 I appreciate fan section you 1587 01:01:14,476 --> 01:01:17,476 brought with you today and 1588 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:19,247 the enthusiasm they've shown. 1589 01:01:19,247 --> 01:01:19,981 That was a lot of fun. 1590 01:01:19,981 --> 01:01:20,282 Thank you for everything you've 1591 01:01:20,282 --> 01:01:20,649 done. 1592 01:01:20,649 --> 01:01:22,649 Oh, sorry. 1593 01:01:23,652 --> 01:01:24,386 One one last thing I wanted to 1594 01:01:24,386 --> 01:01:25,190 say thank you to council member 1595 01:01:25,190 --> 01:01:27,389 council PRESIDENT Club and 1596 01:01:27,389 --> 01:01:27,956 Councilor Campbell for I 1597 01:01:27,956 --> 01:01:28,657 continue to recognize 1598 01:01:28,657 --> 01:01:29,124 Alzheimer's and brought Brand 1599 01:01:29,124 --> 01:01:29,758 Awareness Month. 1600 01:01:29,758 --> 01:01:31,961 i think this is something 1601 01:01:31,961 --> 01:01:32,695 you've done for multiple years 1602 01:01:32,695 --> 01:01:33,395 now and the special calling out 1603 01:01:33,395 --> 01:01:36,995 of the caregivers who are such 1604 01:01:37,399 --> 01:01:38,990 an important part of that I've 1605 01:01:38,990 --> 01:01:41,990 shared before I've watched my 1606 01:01:41,770 --> 01:01:42,504 mom take care of family who's 1607 01:01:42,504 --> 01:01:43,239 who's been who's struggled with 1608 01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:46,239 dementia and Alzheimer's And it 1609 01:01:47,243 --> 01:01:51,443 is it is such an enormous task. 1610 01:01:51,714 --> 01:01:52,213 It requires incredible amount 1611 01:01:52,213 --> 01:01:53,820 of care and love. 1612 01:01:53,820 --> 01:01:56,820 And anyone who's watched a 1613 01:01:56,986 --> 01:01:57,853 loved one battle these ailments 1614 01:01:57,853 --> 01:02:01,453 knows how hard that is for 1615 01:02:02,291 --> 01:02:05,291 everyone who who's for everyone 1616 01:02:05,961 --> 01:02:06,729 who's around those people And 1617 01:02:06,729 --> 01:02:09,729 continuing to make efforts to 1618 01:02:11,467 --> 01:02:12,133 prevent and potentially cure 1619 01:02:12,133 --> 01:02:12,802 those ailments is something 1620 01:02:12,802 --> 01:02:15,202 that we should continuously 1621 01:02:16,939 --> 01:02:17,539 strive for and I appreciate you 1622 01:02:17,539 --> 01:02:18,240 all continuing to bring 1623 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:18,941 awareness to it And with that 1624 01:02:18,941 --> 01:02:19,308 council PRESIDENT Concludes my 1625 01:02:19,308 --> 01:02:21,308 comments. 1626 01:02:21,344 --> 01:02:21,911 Thank you. 1627 01:02:21,911 --> 01:02:22,611 >> All right. 1628 01:02:22,611 --> 01:02:22,945 Thank you, Council member Ella 1629 01:02:22,945 --> 01:02:23,546 Rivera. 1630 01:02:23,546 --> 01:02:26,546 We'll go next to Council 1631 01:02:26,816 --> 01:02:27,516 PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee Council 1632 01:02:27,516 --> 01:02:29,986 PRESIDENT I'll speak to items 1633 01:02:29,986 --> 01:02:30,486 30 is 500 and 5a1 on item 31 to 1634 01:02:30,486 --> 01:02:31,870 thank Mayor Gloria 1635 01:02:31,870 --> 01:02:31,754 Councilmembers Campbell 1636 01:02:31,754 --> 01:02:34,723 Whitburn and Van Wilpert for 1637 01:02:34,723 --> 01:02:35,157 bringing forward this 1638 01:02:35,157 --> 01:02:35,725 proclamation. 1639 01:02:35,725 --> 01:02:36,459 I'm honored to support 1640 01:02:36,459 --> 01:02:38,859 Santiago's lgbtq Plus community 1641 01:02:39,529 --> 01:02:40,162 and to celebrate their 1642 01:02:40,162 --> 01:02:40,763 countless contributions to 1643 01:02:40,763 --> 01:02:41,463 the vibrancy of our city 1644 01:02:41,463 --> 01:02:43,863 whether it's through historic 1645 01:02:44,366 --> 01:02:45,670 advocacy service to our greater 1646 01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:45,767 community and in fighting for 1647 01:02:45,767 --> 01:02:48,167 representation at every level 1648 01:02:49,472 --> 01:02:50,390 of government as Council member 1649 01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:50,740 would bring to chair. 1650 01:02:50,740 --> 01:02:53,643 While Pride Month is certainly 1651 01:02:53,643 --> 01:02:54,343 a meaningful time for 1652 01:02:54,343 --> 01:02:55,440 celebration, it also serves as 1653 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,348 a reminder that the fight for 1654 01:02:58,348 --> 01:02:59,480 equality, dignity and inclusion 1655 01:02:59,480 --> 01:02:59,749 continues and especially given 1656 01:02:59,749 --> 01:03:00,450 the growing and brazen efforts 1657 01:03:00,450 --> 01:03:02,850 of our federal administration 1658 01:03:03,353 --> 01:03:03,686 to roll back protections and 1659 01:03:03,686 --> 01:03:04,353 rights. 1660 01:03:04,353 --> 01:03:05,200 I think it's more important 1661 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,620 than ever that we stand with 1662 01:03:08,624 --> 01:03:09,292 our lgbtq plus neighbors in 1663 01:03:09,292 --> 01:03:09,759 fighting against hatred and 1664 01:03:09,759 --> 01:03:11,759 discrimination. 1665 01:03:13,396 --> 01:03:14,300 Santiago is proud to be a city 1666 01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:14,698 that values inclusion and 1667 01:03:14,698 --> 01:03:15,398 belonging where every person 1668 01:03:15,398 --> 01:03:18,868 should be able to live openly, 1669 01:03:18,868 --> 01:03:19,335 safely and as their true 1670 01:03:19,335 --> 01:03:19,969 authentic self. 1671 01:03:19,969 --> 01:03:20,636 My team and I always look 1672 01:03:20,636 --> 01:03:23,360 forward to participating in 1673 01:03:23,673 --> 01:03:24,440 several standing upright events 1674 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:25,108 each year particularly light up 1675 01:03:25,108 --> 01:03:25,808 the Cathedral, the Spirit of 1676 01:03:25,808 --> 01:03:28,808 Stonewall Rally and of course 1677 01:03:29,450 --> 01:03:29,913 the Pride parade. 1678 01:03:29,913 --> 01:03:30,446 >> So I want to thank all 1679 01:03:30,446 --> 01:03:31,470 the advocates, kumu 1680 01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:33,470 organizations, community 1681 01:03:34,150 --> 01:03:34,850 leaders and more who continue 1682 01:03:34,850 --> 01:03:35,552 to make San Diego a welcoming 1683 01:03:35,552 --> 01:03:36,252 place for all and look forward 1684 01:03:36,252 --> 01:03:39,122 to celebrating pride with many 1685 01:03:39,122 --> 01:03:39,756 of you in the months ahead. 1686 01:03:39,756 --> 01:03:42,756 Next moving to item s500. 1687 01:03:44,727 --> 01:03:45,428 I'm honored to bring forward a 1688 01:03:45,428 --> 01:03:46,950 proclamation and to be joined 1689 01:03:46,950 --> 01:03:49,465 by some of my colleagues in 1690 01:03:49,465 --> 01:03:50,133 recognizing Audie DeCastro for 1691 01:03:50,133 --> 01:03:50,767 his outstanding service and 1692 01:03:50,767 --> 01:03:53,167 leadership as the Honorary 1693 01:03:53,836 --> 01:03:54,437 Consul for the Philippines in 1694 01:03:54,437 --> 01:03:55,371 San Diego since 2014. 1695 01:03:55,371 --> 01:03:59,442 And I would note that as a 1696 01:03:59,442 --> 01:04:00,143 volunteer role that he's played 1697 01:04:00,143 --> 01:04:00,677 for more than a decade, we're 1698 01:04:00,677 --> 01:04:01,344 ought to strengthen 1699 01:04:01,344 --> 01:04:03,744 the relationship between San 1700 01:04:03,913 --> 01:04:04,414 Diego and the Philippines 1701 01:04:04,414 --> 01:04:05,140 fostering cultural 1702 01:04:05,140 --> 01:04:05,682 understanding, economic 1703 01:04:05,682 --> 01:04:06,283 partnerships and meaningful 1704 01:04:06,283 --> 01:04:08,283 connections between our 1705 01:04:09,519 --> 01:04:10,253 communities. 1706 01:04:10,253 --> 01:04:10,954 He's been a dedicated advocate 1707 01:04:10,954 --> 01:04:13,954 for the Filipino and Filipino 1708 01:04:15,250 --> 01:04:15,691 American community of more than 1709 01:04:15,691 --> 01:04:16,359 200,000 residents throughout 1710 01:04:16,359 --> 01:04:19,262 our region where he provides 1711 01:04:19,262 --> 01:04:19,963 support and resources to 1712 01:04:19,963 --> 01:04:20,597 countless residents while also 1713 01:04:20,597 --> 01:04:21,297 creating opportunities for 1714 01:04:21,297 --> 01:04:23,697 civic engagement and community 1715 01:04:24,701 --> 01:04:25,301 empowerment through initiatives 1716 01:04:25,301 --> 01:04:25,902 such as the state of 1717 01:04:25,902 --> 01:04:26,603 the Filipino community. 1718 01:04:26,603 --> 01:04:29,603 He's served in many volunteer 1719 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:30,707 roles throughout San Diego. 1720 01:04:30,707 --> 01:04:31,274 He's been the former PRESIDENT 1721 01:04:31,274 --> 01:04:33,674 Of the Asian Business 1722 01:04:36,790 --> 01:04:36,746 Association, PRESIDENT Of 1723 01:04:36,746 --> 01:04:37,379 Filipino-American Lawyers of 1724 01:04:37,379 --> 01:04:38,810 San Diego, former chair of 1725 01:04:38,810 --> 01:04:40,481 the Filipino American Chamber 1726 01:04:40,917 --> 01:04:41,484 of Commerce and he served as a 1727 01:04:41,484 --> 01:04:42,118 member of the Board of 1728 01:04:42,118 --> 01:04:42,519 Governors on the San Diego 1729 01:04:42,519 --> 01:04:44,519 Foundation. 1730 01:04:45,550 --> 01:04:45,922 And that's just to name a few. 1731 01:04:45,922 --> 01:04:46,790 But as part of and in addition 1732 01:04:46,790 --> 01:04:50,126 to running his own law firm, he 1733 01:04:50,126 --> 01:04:50,794 also fought for justice whether 1734 01:04:50,794 --> 01:04:51,428 through voting rights or to 1735 01:04:51,428 --> 01:04:54,428 ensure that those who are 1736 01:04:55,732 --> 01:04:56,980 the most vulnerable are not 1737 01:04:56,980 --> 01:04:56,799 forgotten. 1738 01:04:56,799 --> 01:04:57,500 He helped to found Pagosa Law 1739 01:04:57,500 --> 01:05:00,500 Clinic which provides free or 1740 01:05:00,804 --> 01:05:01,405 low cost legal services for 1741 01:05:01,405 --> 01:05:01,972 members of the Filipino 1742 01:05:01,972 --> 01:05:03,972 community particularly 1743 01:05:05,742 --> 01:05:06,476 immigrants and vulnerable 1744 01:05:06,476 --> 01:05:07,177 populations facing immigration, 1745 01:05:07,177 --> 01:05:09,577 housing, domestic violence and 1746 01:05:11,715 --> 01:05:12,582 other legal issues. 1747 01:05:12,582 --> 01:05:13,216 San Diego is certainly stronger 1748 01:05:13,216 --> 01:05:13,850 because of his service and 1749 01:05:13,850 --> 01:05:16,250 the Filipino community is 1750 01:05:16,419 --> 01:05:16,953 richer because of his 1751 01:05:16,953 --> 01:05:17,354 volunteerism and his 1752 01:05:17,354 --> 01:05:18,200 commitment. 1753 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,200 And so as his distinguished 1754 01:05:21,725 --> 01:05:22,359 tenure comes to a close, we 1755 01:05:22,359 --> 01:05:23,600 thank you for his enduring 1756 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:23,627 legacy of diplomacy, advocacy 1757 01:05:23,627 --> 01:05:26,270 and public service and 1758 01:05:27,397 --> 01:05:28,131 congratulate him on 1759 01:05:28,131 --> 01:05:28,798 the profound impact he has made 1760 01:05:28,798 --> 01:05:29,165 on Senegal and the Filipino 1761 01:05:29,165 --> 01:05:31,165 community. 1762 01:05:33,336 --> 01:05:34,400 >> And finally on se 5a1I did 1763 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:34,705 want to take a quick minute 1764 01:05:34,705 --> 01:05:37,641 just to acknowledge and think, 1765 01:05:37,641 --> 01:05:38,275 John, for his service to our 1766 01:05:38,275 --> 01:05:38,942 community and to the city. 1767 01:05:38,942 --> 01:05:39,775 You have often come to these 1768 01:05:39,775 --> 01:05:43,375 chambers and let us know that 1769 01:05:43,747 --> 01:05:44,715 there's a subpoena coming for 1770 01:05:44,715 --> 01:05:49,515 us to appear at a at a great 1771 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:50,620 event that your wife Tammy has 1772 01:05:50,620 --> 01:05:50,921 helped to put on every single 1773 01:05:50,921 --> 01:05:51,655 year. 1774 01:05:51,655 --> 01:05:52,356 And certainly we didn't need to 1775 01:05:52,356 --> 01:05:54,958 send you a subpoena to get you 1776 01:05:54,958 --> 01:05:55,793 to appear today clearly. 1777 01:05:55,793 --> 01:05:56,459 But Tammy has helped to bring a 1778 01:05:56,459 --> 01:05:57,161 group of second graders out 1779 01:05:57,161 --> 01:05:59,930 every year and John helps to 1780 01:05:59,930 --> 01:06:00,764 organize with multiple offices. 1781 01:06:00,764 --> 01:06:04,535 And it is to me always a 1782 01:06:04,535 --> 01:06:05,335 special opportunity each time 1783 01:06:05,335 --> 01:06:06,300 to get young people who are 1784 01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:06,603 here in council chambers who 1785 01:06:06,603 --> 01:06:09,603 want to learn about how 1786 01:06:10,908 --> 01:06:11,608 government works, whether it's 1787 01:06:11,608 --> 01:06:12,276 the fact that we can and can't 1788 01:06:12,276 --> 01:06:15,276 fix potholes enough of them 1789 01:06:16,714 --> 01:06:17,448 ever streets ever to how all 1790 01:06:17,448 --> 01:06:18,148 the different branches even our 1791 01:06:18,148 --> 01:06:21,148 local level of government work 1792 01:06:22,619 --> 01:06:23,254 so so thank you John for your 1793 01:06:23,254 --> 01:06:23,988 service to the city and to 1794 01:06:23,988 --> 01:06:27,588 the great community and we hope 1795 01:06:32,563 --> 01:06:32,921 also get to see Tammy and your 1796 01:06:32,921 --> 01:06:33,697 . 1797 01:06:33,697 --> 01:06:34,970 >> And with that that concludes 1798 01:06:34,970 --> 01:06:34,832 my comments. 1799 01:06:34,832 --> 01:06:35,132 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 1800 01:06:35,132 --> 01:06:35,499 right. 1801 01:06:35,499 --> 01:06:37,499 Thank you. 1802 01:06:38,636 --> 01:06:39,369 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee 1803 01:06:39,369 --> 01:06:40,104 All my colleagues have spoken 1804 01:06:40,104 --> 01:06:43,607 so I'll have a few comments to 1805 01:06:43,607 --> 01:06:44,475 close it up. 1806 01:06:44,475 --> 01:06:45,142 Thank you to my colleagues for 1807 01:06:45,142 --> 01:06:45,476 bringing these proclamations 1808 01:06:45,476 --> 01:06:47,476 forward. 1809 01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:50,748 Congratulations everyone and 1810 01:06:50,748 --> 01:06:51,449 everything is being recognized. 1811 01:06:51,449 --> 01:06:54,449 My colleagues were so eloquent 1812 01:06:55,888 --> 01:06:56,754 as well as the public. 1813 01:06:56,754 --> 01:06:57,721 I'll offer a few spot comments 1814 01:06:57,721 --> 01:07:01,321 on item 30 I kind of wasn't 1815 01:07:02,259 --> 01:07:02,760 mentioned so I thought it was 1816 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:03,394 worth mentioning. 1817 01:07:03,394 --> 01:07:04,940 My daughter is in Budapest 1818 01:07:04,940 --> 01:07:07,694 right now and I'm sure you're 1819 01:07:08,432 --> 01:07:09,990 well aware that Budapest had 1820 01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:09,800 the first Pride parade in 16 1821 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,400 years because of the change of 1822 01:07:14,638 --> 01:07:15,406 the government administration. 1823 01:07:15,406 --> 01:07:17,806 As Councilmember Eli Rivera 1824 01:07:20,611 --> 01:07:21,345 said, the arc of equality can 1825 01:07:21,345 --> 01:07:21,979 bend very slowly but it can be 1826 01:07:21,979 --> 01:07:22,680 And so never give up hope 1827 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,680 Despite what we hear sometimes 1828 01:07:26,416 --> 01:07:28,816 these days I am 31. 1829 01:07:30,755 --> 01:07:31,555 I met Diane Smith from ten 1830 01:07:31,555 --> 01:07:32,423 years ago and he had one simple 1831 01:07:32,423 --> 01:07:35,423 request Just get that channel 1832 01:07:37,610 --> 01:07:37,861 fixed. 1833 01:07:37,861 --> 01:07:38,596 Here we are ten years later and 1834 01:07:38,596 --> 01:07:39,330 it's still not fixed But I know 1835 01:07:39,330 --> 01:07:42,330 Council Member Capital is doing 1836 01:07:43,201 --> 01:07:43,567 everything in his power to get 1837 01:07:43,567 --> 01:07:44,402 that done. 1838 01:07:44,402 --> 01:07:45,102 It is such a critical part of 1839 01:07:45,102 --> 01:07:47,502 the redevelopment of Granville 1840 01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:49,841 having grown up just up 1841 01:07:49,841 --> 01:07:50,508 the hill in Allan Gardens I'm 1842 01:07:50,508 --> 01:07:53,508 well aware of that challenge 1843 01:07:55,146 --> 01:07:55,880 and as well as the roads that 1844 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,614 are necessary to really ensure 1845 01:07:56,614 --> 01:07:59,614 that that gravel really becomes 1846 01:08:01,418 --> 01:08:02,120 everything that it can be and 1847 01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:02,420 such an important part of our 1848 01:08:02,420 --> 01:08:03,120 city. 1849 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,120 Another important neighborhood 1850 01:08:08,292 --> 01:08:08,959 added Castro item that's 500 1851 01:08:08,959 --> 01:08:09,659 thank you council PRESIDENT 1852 01:08:09,659 --> 01:08:10,328 Particularly for bringing that 1853 01:08:10,328 --> 01:08:13,897 you did such an eloquent job 1854 01:08:13,897 --> 01:08:14,632 I'll just say thank you for 1855 01:08:14,632 --> 01:08:17,632 bringing that forward and thank 1856 01:08:18,690 --> 01:08:18,770 you for his service And then as 1857 01:08:18,770 --> 01:08:19,370 501 John Taylor You know what 1858 01:08:19,370 --> 01:08:19,904 Joy? 1859 01:08:19,904 --> 01:08:23,340 Tonight I made that comment got 1860 01:08:23,340 --> 01:08:24,750 a little bit of laugh. 1861 01:08:24,750 --> 01:08:24,809 You know, I think it's actually 1862 01:08:24,809 --> 01:08:25,543 a moment of seriousness that we 1863 01:08:25,543 --> 01:08:28,543 often forget about those who 1864 01:08:29,881 --> 01:08:30,548 choose public service in 1865 01:08:30,548 --> 01:08:31,182 the city attorney's office. 1866 01:08:31,182 --> 01:08:34,782 You know, I don't know how 1867 01:08:35,987 --> 01:08:36,654 calculations go but if you were 1868 01:08:36,654 --> 01:08:37,288 in private practice and you 1869 01:08:37,288 --> 01:08:39,288 generated 2085 million in 1870 01:08:41,250 --> 01:08:41,759 settlement, what 25 a third of 1871 01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:45,359 that could go to attorneys fees 1872 01:08:46,130 --> 01:08:46,464 and yet you chose public 1873 01:08:46,464 --> 01:08:47,232 service. 1874 01:08:47,232 --> 01:08:47,966 And so we're really grateful to 1875 01:08:47,966 --> 01:08:51,566 you and everybody who serves in 1876 01:08:52,437 --> 01:08:52,737 the office of the city attorney 1877 01:08:52,737 --> 01:08:53,438 . 1878 01:08:53,438 --> 01:08:54,138 It is such an important 1879 01:08:54,138 --> 01:08:54,738 function that we often take a 1880 01:08:54,738 --> 01:08:55,373 little bit too lightly. 1881 01:08:55,373 --> 01:08:57,773 So congratulations on your 1882 01:08:59,777 --> 01:09:02,777 retirement And then on 504 in 1883 01:09:05,316 --> 01:09:06,170 partnership with Councilmember 1884 01:09:06,170 --> 01:09:06,684 Campbell proclaiming JUNE 2026 1885 01:09:06,684 --> 01:09:09,684 to be Alzheimer's and Brand 1886 01:09:10,388 --> 01:09:11,890 Awareness Month and City of San 1887 01:09:11,890 --> 01:09:11,756 Diego for a disease that 1888 01:09:11,756 --> 01:09:12,357 touches so many lives, It's 1889 01:09:12,357 --> 01:09:12,856 important to me that we 1890 01:09:12,856 --> 01:09:14,856 highlight not only 1891 01:09:16,995 --> 01:09:17,662 the challenge that Alzheimer's 1892 01:09:17,662 --> 01:09:18,363 brings but also the strength 1893 01:09:18,363 --> 01:09:19,960 and resilience of individuals, 1894 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,960 friends and family, health care 1895 01:09:22,968 --> 01:09:23,702 providers and advocates who 1896 01:09:23,702 --> 01:09:24,335 face those challenges every day 1897 01:09:24,335 --> 01:09:27,335 In the state of California 1898 01:09:27,472 --> 01:09:28,390 there are 720,000 individuals 1899 01:09:28,390 --> 01:09:28,707 currently living with 1900 01:09:28,707 --> 01:09:31,107 Alzheimer's and it's become 1901 01:09:33,377 --> 01:09:34,112 the leading cause of death in 1902 01:09:34,112 --> 01:09:37,112 adults older than 85 years old. 1903 01:09:37,949 --> 01:09:38,550 My father was 85 when he passed 1904 01:09:38,550 --> 01:09:39,250 away 16 years ago from 1905 01:09:39,250 --> 01:09:41,250 complications associated with 1906 01:09:44,689 --> 01:09:45,357 Alzheimer's While research was 1907 01:09:45,357 --> 01:09:46,570 continue to make advances in 1908 01:09:46,570 --> 01:09:46,791 the fight against Alzheimer's, 1909 01:09:46,791 --> 01:09:47,192 there's still so much more work 1910 01:09:47,192 --> 01:09:47,792 to be done. 1911 01:09:47,792 --> 01:09:50,792 Thank you to the medical 1912 01:09:51,163 --> 01:09:51,897 professionals, researchers, 1913 01:09:51,897 --> 01:09:52,630 health organizations and family 1914 01:09:52,630 --> 01:09:53,231 friends who continue to provide 1915 01:09:53,231 --> 01:09:55,631 support to those facing 1916 01:09:56,735 --> 01:09:57,402 the challenges of Alzheimer's 1917 01:09:57,402 --> 01:09:58,690 their compassion, dedication 1918 01:09:58,690 --> 01:09:58,770 and unwavering commitment to 1919 01:09:58,770 --> 01:10:02,370 caring for those you love make 1920 01:10:03,141 --> 01:10:03,808 a profound difference in 1921 01:10:03,808 --> 01:10:04,509 the lives of those affected. 1922 01:10:04,509 --> 01:10:08,580 And as I said, every time we 1923 01:10:08,580 --> 01:10:09,281 bring this proclamation to 1924 01:10:09,281 --> 01:10:09,981 family and friends who have no 1925 01:10:09,981 --> 01:10:12,981 one individual who's either at 1926 01:10:14,452 --> 01:10:15,153 risk of Alzheimer's or having 1927 01:10:15,153 --> 01:10:15,854 those early signs, you will 1928 01:10:15,854 --> 01:10:16,587 never know what was that last 1929 01:10:16,587 --> 01:10:19,587 conversation you have with them 1930 01:10:20,559 --> 01:10:20,892 before they don't recognize you 1931 01:10:20,892 --> 01:10:21,493 anymore. 1932 01:10:21,493 --> 01:10:24,493 So love them, hug them, 1933 01:10:25,797 --> 01:10:26,565 appreciate them every day 1934 01:10:26,565 --> 01:10:27,266 because that will be that one 1935 01:10:27,266 --> 01:10:27,933 moment where they're suddenly 1936 01:10:27,933 --> 01:10:28,199 not there and not recognize 1937 01:10:28,199 --> 01:10:30,199 you. 1938 01:10:32,673 --> 01:10:33,338 So I think about that often 1939 01:10:33,338 --> 01:10:34,306 with my father that I don't 1940 01:10:34,306 --> 01:10:39,106 know what the last time I had a 1941 01:10:39,111 --> 01:10:39,811 conversation where he actually 1942 01:10:39,811 --> 01:10:40,578 recognized who I was or he 1943 01:10:40,578 --> 01:10:43,578 recognized his wife or my 1944 01:10:44,583 --> 01:10:45,384 sister going forward. 1945 01:10:45,384 --> 01:10:45,851 What a tragic, tragic disease. 1946 01:10:45,851 --> 01:10:46,584 I'm grateful for 1947 01:10:46,584 --> 01:10:48,984 the organizations that continue 1948 01:10:50,389 --> 01:10:50,756 to promote awareness and 1949 01:10:50,756 --> 01:10:51,557 research. 1950 01:10:51,557 --> 01:10:55,757 So with that we have a motion 1951 01:10:58,163 --> 01:10:58,764 by Council member Camp you in a 1952 01:10:58,764 --> 01:10:59,465 second by Council member 1953 01:10:59,465 --> 01:11:02,465 Campbell I'm sorry the voting 1954 01:11:02,835 --> 01:11:05,835 system Please cast your vote 1955 01:11:09,340 --> 01:11:09,975 that passes initially 6 to 0 1956 01:11:09,975 --> 01:11:10,642 with Councilmember Moreno, 1957 01:11:10,642 --> 01:11:11,310 Councilmember von Wilber and 1958 01:11:11,310 --> 01:11:13,710 council member Foster Absent 1959 01:11:14,747 --> 01:11:15,470 Thank you Council PRESIDENT All 1960 01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:15,413 right. 1961 01:11:15,413 --> 01:11:16,148 Thank you. 1962 01:11:16,148 --> 01:11:16,815 With that we will now pause for 1963 01:11:16,815 --> 01:11:17,482 photos and we'll start with 1964 01:11:17,482 --> 01:11:19,482 item 41 Eldorado Properties. 1965 01:13:18,871 --> 01:13:23,671 So if you come up to the pit 1966 01:18:56,777 --> 01:18:58,777 and 1967 01:25:10,854 --> 01:25:12,854 you 1968 01:25:16,426 --> 01:25:18,826 have everyone out there, 1969 01:25:27,603 --> 01:25:30,603 somebody All right, let's get 1970 01:25:32,809 --> 01:25:33,210 back to the business of 1971 01:25:33,210 --> 01:25:33,810 the morning. 1972 01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:34,478 We will now proceed with 1973 01:25:34,478 --> 01:25:37,478 the approval of the consent 1974 01:25:37,981 --> 01:25:38,749 items. 1975 01:25:38,749 --> 01:25:39,516 Are there any request to pull 1976 01:25:39,516 --> 01:25:43,487 an item off consent Not see any 1977 01:25:43,487 --> 01:25:44,187 request by my colleagues? 1978 01:25:44,187 --> 01:25:44,655 >> clerk Please proceed with 1979 01:25:44,655 --> 01:25:46,655 public comment. 1980 01:25:48,258 --> 01:25:49,260 Please note each speaker will 1981 01:25:49,260 --> 01:25:49,365 have one minute per item per 1982 01:25:49,365 --> 01:25:50,600 person. 1983 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:50,727 If you would like to speak on 1984 01:25:50,727 --> 01:25:53,970 three or more items you will 1985 01:25:53,970 --> 01:25:53,430 have a maximum of three 1986 01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:54,970 minutes. 1987 01:25:54,970 --> 01:25:56,497 The consent agenda includes 1988 01:25:58,335 --> 01:25:59,203 items 1052 54 103 1 or 2 as 502 1989 01:25:59,203 --> 01:26:02,172 and as 503 We did receive 1990 01:26:02,172 --> 01:26:02,940 comments on items 53 and three 1991 01:26:02,940 --> 01:26:05,940 oppose an item 1 or 2 one 1992 01:26:07,544 --> 01:26:08,245 opposed we are e comment form 1993 01:26:08,245 --> 01:26:08,645 which have been distributed to 1994 01:26:08,645 --> 01:26:09,313 the Council. 1995 01:26:09,313 --> 01:26:12,750 We do have speakers here in 1996 01:26:12,750 --> 01:26:13,383 council chambers started with 1997 01:26:13,383 --> 01:26:15,419 starting with Jacob Lewis 1998 01:26:15,419 --> 01:26:16,120 Edwards speaking on I was 42 1999 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:16,820 s5o2 and s503 Please come 2000 01:26:16,820 --> 01:26:17,521 forward to the mic You'll have 2001 01:26:17,521 --> 01:26:21,121 three minutes And then we have 2002 01:26:22,125 --> 01:26:22,826 allegedly Audra with 1 or 2 1 2003 01:26:22,826 --> 01:26:24,826 to 1 5051 5253 and 100. 2004 01:26:27,310 --> 01:26:27,631 Please proceed again. 2005 01:26:27,631 --> 01:26:29,631 Good morning COUNCILMAN. 2006 01:26:32,605 --> 01:26:33,470 I'm women and I am going to 2007 01:26:33,470 --> 01:26:36,707 stay on subject matter that are 2008 01:26:36,707 --> 01:26:39,107 so item 52 amendment to 2009 01:26:40,944 --> 01:26:43,944 the salary ordinance the 27th 2010 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:47,751 fiscal year now amending the 27 2011 01:26:47,751 --> 01:26:48,219 fiscal budget is going to be 2012 01:26:48,219 --> 01:26:50,219 very important. 2013 01:26:51,922 --> 01:26:55,522 It is going to be necessary 2014 01:26:56,250 --> 01:26:56,727 Also item s5o2 ordinance 2015 01:26:56,727 --> 01:26:58,796 amending Chapter two relating 2016 01:26:58,796 --> 01:27:00,796 to post-employment health 2017 01:27:04,735 --> 01:27:07,135 benefits for eligible employees 2018 01:27:09,340 --> 01:27:10,700 and then item 5a3 First 2019 01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:12,407 Amendment to the Employment 2020 01:27:14,211 --> 01:27:15,780 Assistance Program erp Now all 2021 01:27:15,780 --> 01:27:18,678 of these items deal with folks 2022 01:27:19,517 --> 01:27:21,517 livelihoods, folks, livelihoods 2023 01:27:24,989 --> 01:27:25,320 and that's a subject matter 2024 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,320 here. 2025 01:27:29,727 --> 01:27:30,361 I consider So I'm going to talk 2026 01:27:30,361 --> 01:27:32,761 about our livelihoods, our 2027 01:27:34,565 --> 01:27:36,965 livelihoods are under attack. 2028 01:27:40,371 --> 01:27:41,238 >> Our country is under attack 2029 01:27:41,238 --> 01:27:45,108 that if we don't stand up we're 2030 01:27:45,108 --> 01:27:45,809 in some trouble folks, what I 2031 01:27:45,809 --> 01:27:48,479 spoke about earlier some very 2032 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:50,879 real stuff and council 2033 01:27:52,817 --> 01:27:53,684 PRESIDENT It's we're going to 2034 01:27:53,684 --> 01:27:56,420 need to stand up against this 2035 01:27:56,420 --> 01:27:58,420 stuff. 2036 01:28:02,260 --> 01:28:02,827 It was years ago My mom's mom's 2037 01:28:02,827 --> 01:28:03,561 brother's position on 2038 01:28:03,561 --> 01:28:05,961 Department of Homeland Security 2039 01:28:06,663 --> 01:28:07,532 was hijacked by the mob. 2040 01:28:07,532 --> 01:28:07,864 They were put on me by my 2041 01:28:07,864 --> 01:28:09,864 family. 2042 01:28:11,335 --> 01:28:11,636 I consider it now not the mob's 2043 01:28:11,636 --> 01:28:13,636 fall. 2044 01:28:15,505 --> 01:28:16,700 They were able to take the keys 2045 01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:16,507 to our country. 2046 01:28:16,507 --> 01:28:17,442 Why wouldn't they? 2047 01:28:17,442 --> 01:28:20,278 I blame those in Washington dc 2048 01:28:20,278 --> 01:28:23,278 but Chinese espionage was on 2049 01:28:23,581 --> 01:28:26,581 the thing the entire time. 2050 01:28:28,585 --> 01:28:29,287 What it's led to is genocide. 2051 01:28:29,287 --> 01:28:31,989 >> Look up the YouTube clip 2052 01:28:31,989 --> 01:28:34,989 Jacob Edwards speaks and heard 2053 01:28:37,562 --> 01:28:39,962 briefly explains what's going 2054 01:28:42,990 --> 01:28:42,767 on The Chinese espionage Take a 2055 01:28:42,767 --> 01:28:46,367 look at this entire time to 2056 01:28:46,571 --> 01:28:47,272 take our country over Federal 2057 01:28:47,272 --> 01:28:50,272 Reserve families who owe China 2058 01:28:51,976 --> 01:28:52,310 a lot of money cut a deal of 2059 01:28:52,310 --> 01:28:52,977 disgust. 2060 01:28:52,977 --> 01:28:56,577 How dare they That yeah, you 2061 01:28:57,282 --> 01:28:58,820 can take our country over pork 2062 01:28:58,820 --> 01:29:01,185 clear in that debt trillions We 2063 01:29:01,185 --> 01:29:04,785 owe you most disturbing so deal 2064 01:29:05,456 --> 01:29:06,157 a genocide that went along with 2065 01:29:06,157 --> 01:29:09,157 it Recruited to the Department 2066 01:29:09,994 --> 01:29:10,695 of Homeland Security's database 2067 01:29:10,695 --> 01:29:11,396 for the best the best of our 2068 01:29:11,396 --> 01:29:13,396 country and competition 2069 01:29:14,999 --> 01:29:15,666 The Chinese taking our country 2070 01:29:15,666 --> 01:29:18,666 over Folks recruited in mass 2071 01:29:19,904 --> 01:29:20,705 numbers to convention centers 2072 01:29:20,705 --> 01:29:21,239 right here in San Diego is 2073 01:29:21,239 --> 01:29:22,730 the epicenter of it. 2074 01:29:22,730 --> 01:29:25,673 I don't know how many other 2075 01:29:28,580 --> 01:29:29,314 cities are involved. 2076 01:29:29,314 --> 01:29:30,480 >> The genocides occurred their 2077 01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:32,417 best the best comment allegedly 2078 01:29:32,417 --> 01:29:32,784 Andre we'll stand up for 2079 01:29:32,784 --> 01:29:33,584 ourselves. 2080 01:29:33,584 --> 01:29:36,520 >> Folks must stand up against 2081 01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:37,489 this. 2082 01:29:37,489 --> 01:29:40,489 >> I need to do some 2083 01:29:42,294 --> 01:29:42,960 housekeeping really quick 2084 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:43,427 because Sean you're twisting 2085 01:29:43,427 --> 01:29:44,129 what I'm saying. 2086 01:29:44,129 --> 01:29:47,332 I'm not asking you to stand 2087 01:29:47,332 --> 01:29:47,699 against the gay or trans 2088 01:29:47,699 --> 01:29:48,433 community. 2089 01:29:48,433 --> 01:29:51,433 I'm asking why you're condoning 2090 01:29:52,570 --> 01:29:53,205 pedophilia and the rape of 2091 01:29:53,205 --> 01:29:53,939 children and why you don't 2092 01:29:53,939 --> 01:29:56,975 stand against that and the fact 2093 01:29:56,975 --> 01:29:57,675 that you say that you won't 2094 01:29:57,675 --> 01:30:00,675 stand against that is very 2095 01:30:01,713 --> 01:30:02,414 concerning because I guess as 2096 01:30:02,414 --> 01:30:03,140 long as pedophiles are living 2097 01:30:03,140 --> 01:30:03,715 their authentic life and 2098 01:30:03,715 --> 01:30:06,484 they're upset, then to myself 2099 01:30:06,484 --> 01:30:07,219 you can be inclusive and 2100 01:30:07,219 --> 01:30:09,619 equitable all while admonishing 2101 01:30:11,556 --> 01:30:12,190 and hating on victims for 2102 01:30:12,190 --> 01:30:12,623 sharing assaults that are 2103 01:30:12,623 --> 01:30:14,623 taking place. 2104 01:30:16,294 --> 01:30:16,695 So that's extremely 2105 01:30:16,695 --> 01:30:16,995 interesting. 2106 01:30:16,995 --> 01:30:18,995 Okay. 2107 01:30:20,464 --> 01:30:21,650 So you know with 50 I mean any 2108 01:30:21,650 --> 01:30:24,650 time you guys are always 2109 01:30:25,337 --> 01:30:26,103 updating and you know changing 2110 01:30:26,103 --> 01:30:26,705 your codes and stuff and it's 2111 01:30:26,705 --> 01:30:27,305 like a revolving door of 2112 01:30:27,305 --> 01:30:29,775 changes I don't know how 2113 01:30:29,775 --> 01:30:30,375 anybody can keep up with it 2114 01:30:30,375 --> 01:30:31,760 with this pure water. 2115 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,760 You know, I'm wondering what 2116 01:30:34,646 --> 01:30:35,280 kind of testing you guys have 2117 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:35,946 done when you are putting 2118 01:30:35,946 --> 01:30:38,946 things like lye and chlorine 2119 01:30:39,351 --> 01:30:40,180 and very toxic like toxic 2120 01:30:40,180 --> 01:30:43,180 chemicals into this water as 2121 01:30:44,289 --> 01:30:44,957 well as you know, there's 2122 01:30:44,957 --> 01:30:45,691 sewage and different things 2123 01:30:45,691 --> 01:30:45,991 that are still going to be left 2124 01:30:45,991 --> 01:30:47,991 over. 2125 01:30:49,227 --> 01:30:49,928 How do you know what the health 2126 01:30:49,928 --> 01:30:50,696 effects are on the people or 2127 01:30:50,696 --> 01:30:53,696 have you done testing that 2128 01:30:54,990 --> 01:30:54,766 would prove that it is 2129 01:30:54,766 --> 01:30:55,500 absolutely pure water, that 2130 01:30:55,500 --> 01:30:59,100 it's healthy, that there are no 2131 01:30:59,171 --> 01:30:59,872 health effects or is this 2132 01:30:59,872 --> 01:31:00,572 something that's going to come 2133 01:31:00,572 --> 01:31:01,240 down the pike and we're going 2134 01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:03,708 to just revisit it when it 2135 01:31:03,708 --> 01:31:04,409 comes and then you'll have some 2136 01:31:04,409 --> 01:31:05,110 kind of mitigating plan price 2137 01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:08,110 some vaccine or something like 2138 01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:09,414 that And the salary ordinances 2139 01:31:09,414 --> 01:31:12,414 let's quit giving people raises 2140 01:31:13,518 --> 01:31:14,186 until we can really make sure 2141 01:31:14,186 --> 01:31:14,786 we're providing stuff and we 2142 01:31:14,786 --> 01:31:15,354 have the money to do it. 2143 01:31:15,354 --> 01:31:17,754 You guys keep coming. 2144 01:31:17,989 --> 01:31:18,690 Did the people who don't have 2145 01:31:18,690 --> 01:31:22,290 any money to give other people 2146 01:31:22,728 --> 01:31:23,395 raises It's ridiculous. 2147 01:31:23,395 --> 01:31:24,196 And with these sole source 2148 01:31:24,196 --> 01:31:27,499 contracts with Adam I you know 2149 01:31:27,499 --> 01:31:27,832 I just saw Waymo driving 2150 01:31:27,832 --> 01:31:28,567 around. 2151 01:31:28,567 --> 01:31:32,638 I think that we need to bring 2152 01:31:32,638 --> 01:31:33,339 in an ordinance that bans 2153 01:31:33,339 --> 01:31:34,600 Waymo's Is that you're saying 2154 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:34,305 they're not going to come in 2155 01:31:34,305 --> 01:31:34,840 here? 2156 01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:35,541 Are we banning them? 2157 01:31:35,541 --> 01:31:37,576 Is there something that you're 2158 01:31:37,576 --> 01:31:38,444 going to do to make sure 2159 01:31:38,444 --> 01:31:39,143 they're not going to be here or 2160 01:31:39,143 --> 01:31:39,778 is that just you're not going 2161 01:31:39,778 --> 01:31:40,379 to contract with them but 2162 01:31:40,379 --> 01:31:42,881 they'll be able to be in 2163 01:31:42,881 --> 01:31:43,515 the city and we need to be 2164 01:31:43,515 --> 01:31:45,915 worrying about these data 2165 01:31:46,218 --> 01:31:47,190 centers in ai and even goes 2166 01:31:47,190 --> 01:31:50,619 into the power the San Diego 2167 01:31:51,357 --> 01:31:52,240 equity campus and you know your 2168 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:52,725 clean energy fraud that you 2169 01:31:52,725 --> 01:31:56,925 know you want to sit here and 2170 01:31:56,962 --> 01:31:57,730 act like this is green energy 2171 01:31:57,730 --> 01:32:01,330 when in fact it's totally toxic 2172 01:32:01,700 --> 01:32:02,101 to the environment as well as 2173 01:32:02,101 --> 01:32:02,867 human life. 2174 01:32:02,867 --> 01:32:06,409 I mean like these busses and 2175 01:32:06,409 --> 01:32:07,105 different things that come in 2176 01:32:07,105 --> 01:32:07,740 and you know, the data centers 2177 01:32:07,740 --> 01:32:10,740 taking up our fresh water. 2178 01:32:11,277 --> 01:32:11,677 Oh well we're given the pure 2179 01:32:11,677 --> 01:32:12,411 water right? 2180 01:32:12,411 --> 01:32:15,448 But we don't need to test that 2181 01:32:15,448 --> 01:32:15,915 as long as the data centers get 2182 01:32:15,915 --> 01:32:16,615 the fresh stuff. 2183 01:32:16,615 --> 01:32:17,316 I mean who cares what people 2184 01:32:17,316 --> 01:32:20,453 get Just the scraps, you know, 2185 01:32:20,453 --> 01:32:21,530 And eventually we're going to 2186 01:32:21,530 --> 01:32:21,654 be given Soylent Green. 2187 01:32:21,654 --> 01:32:22,521 That should be exciting. 2188 01:32:22,521 --> 01:32:24,790 I mean we already are I guess 2189 01:32:24,790 --> 01:32:25,491 in the water because there's 2190 01:32:25,491 --> 01:32:26,192 babies and stuff that are, you 2191 01:32:26,192 --> 01:32:29,192 know, flushed down the toilet 2192 01:32:29,562 --> 01:32:30,263 in those And then how can you 2193 01:32:30,263 --> 01:32:33,263 be trusted with this disaster 2194 01:32:33,966 --> 01:32:34,266 recovery infrastructure funding 2195 01:32:34,266 --> 01:32:35,101 ? 2196 01:32:35,101 --> 01:32:35,634 Why don't you just keep up with 2197 01:32:35,634 --> 01:32:37,634 the infrastructure? 2198 01:32:38,638 --> 01:32:39,138 But wait, you guys need $5 2199 01:32:39,138 --> 01:32:39,639 billion for it? 2200 01:32:39,639 --> 01:32:40,673 >> Dang it. 2201 01:32:40,673 --> 01:32:43,876 But at least you have this in 2202 01:32:43,876 --> 01:32:44,610 case something happens right? 2203 01:32:44,610 --> 01:32:45,244 >> Your time has concluded. 2204 01:32:45,244 --> 01:32:47,644 We're going to those 2205 01:32:48,748 --> 01:32:49,448 participating remotely starting 2206 01:32:49,448 --> 01:32:50,149 the five minute timer starting 2207 01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:53,319 with Blair Beckman If you can 2208 01:32:53,319 --> 01:32:54,200 please unmute please let me 2209 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,620 know which item or items you 2210 01:32:58,925 --> 01:33:01,325 wish to speak to. 2211 01:33:01,928 --> 01:33:02,995 >> I will be quiet again going 2212 01:33:02,995 --> 01:33:06,799 first and not quite ready but I 2213 01:33:06,799 --> 01:33:07,567 am kind of ready here. 2214 01:33:07,567 --> 01:33:11,167 I wanted to speak to basically 2215 01:33:11,404 --> 01:33:12,104 this day all the consent items 2216 01:33:12,104 --> 01:33:15,104 except uh let me see. 2217 01:33:16,342 --> 01:33:20,542 I got to get in here except 2218 01:33:20,979 --> 01:33:22,979 item 54. 2219 01:33:25,485 --> 01:33:26,252 Blair you do need to be ready. 2220 01:33:26,252 --> 01:33:27,120 >> I'm very sorry about that. 2221 01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:30,890 I'm ready now all I want to 2222 01:33:30,890 --> 01:33:31,290 speak to all items not 254. 2223 01:33:31,290 --> 01:33:31,758 >> Okay? 2224 01:33:31,758 --> 01:33:33,758 Please continue. 2225 01:33:35,328 --> 01:33:35,728 Sorry about that. 2226 01:33:35,728 --> 01:33:36,290 Thank you. 2227 01:33:36,290 --> 01:33:36,462 Okay. 2228 01:33:36,462 --> 01:33:38,462 Blair Beckman. 2229 01:33:40,265 --> 01:33:40,566 Yeah. 2230 01:33:40,566 --> 01:33:41,334 Okay. 2231 01:33:41,334 --> 01:33:42,350 So start with item 50 Coastal 2232 01:33:42,350 --> 01:33:44,350 Commission Modifications Land 2233 01:33:45,271 --> 01:33:45,904 Development Code Update Again, 2234 01:33:45,904 --> 01:33:48,904 one of my regular talking 2235 01:33:49,809 --> 01:33:50,476 points these days are it's 2236 01:33:50,476 --> 01:33:51,177 important that we understand 2237 01:33:51,177 --> 01:33:54,777 the concepts of sea level rise 2238 01:33:55,181 --> 01:33:55,915 issue and how we talk about 2239 01:33:55,915 --> 01:33:58,915 that with Midway Rising because 2240 01:33:59,752 --> 01:34:00,420 if we do that makes it easier 2241 01:34:00,420 --> 01:34:01,120 to talk about sea level rise 2242 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,524 issues for a number of issues 2243 01:34:04,524 --> 01:34:05,225 in San Diego that I think we're 2244 01:34:05,225 --> 01:34:08,627 having a bit of trouble with 2245 01:34:08,627 --> 01:34:09,329 because at Midway Rising I know 2246 01:34:09,329 --> 01:34:11,729 Captain Rhodes she's described 2247 01:34:13,767 --> 01:34:14,434 there can be ways to architect 2248 01:34:14,434 --> 01:34:17,434 and build midway rising with 2249 01:34:18,404 --> 01:34:19,104 sea level rise issues but she 2250 01:34:19,104 --> 01:34:22,704 also questions it and I think 2251 01:34:23,443 --> 01:34:24,210 we should be doing the same It 2252 01:34:24,210 --> 01:34:24,878 should be an open process to 2253 01:34:24,878 --> 01:34:25,211 consider good work in those 2254 01:34:25,211 --> 01:34:27,211 efforts. 2255 01:34:27,980 --> 01:34:28,848 What we can be doing with Pure 2256 01:34:28,848 --> 01:34:31,848 Water 51 on kpbs They just 2257 01:34:37,890 --> 01:34:38,524 reported that uh, Mexico 2258 01:34:38,524 --> 01:34:38,958 Tijuana is working on pure 2259 01:34:38,958 --> 01:34:40,958 water issues. 2260 01:34:43,290 --> 01:34:43,763 >> They've had council persons 2261 01:34:43,763 --> 01:34:47,363 visit ocean side, you know, and 2262 01:34:48,670 --> 01:34:48,368 I just thought that was amazing 2263 01:34:48,368 --> 01:34:48,969 . 2264 01:34:48,969 --> 01:34:49,669 So they're interested in 2265 01:34:49,669 --> 01:34:53,390 the future of pure water quite 2266 01:34:53,390 --> 01:34:53,740 possibly present year one 2267 01:34:53,740 --> 01:34:57,340 valley If we think of pure 2268 01:34:57,344 --> 01:34:58,440 water in those terms of how it 2269 01:34:58,440 --> 01:34:58,745 can help our environment, how 2270 01:34:58,745 --> 01:35:02,345 it can possibly help with air 2271 01:35:02,682 --> 01:35:03,450 issues that's one thing We have 2272 01:35:03,450 --> 01:35:04,251 to be very cautious how we talk 2273 01:35:04,251 --> 01:35:06,886 about it as drinking water 2274 01:35:06,886 --> 01:35:07,521 though I think and good luck 2275 01:35:07,521 --> 01:35:08,188 We're learning to do that 2276 01:35:08,188 --> 01:35:11,188 better keep up those good 2277 01:35:11,691 --> 01:35:12,359 efforts and continuing good 2278 01:35:12,359 --> 01:35:13,590 communication with Tijuana. 2279 01:35:13,590 --> 01:35:16,296 I mean it's just proving what 2280 01:35:16,296 --> 01:35:17,130 good communication is about. 2281 01:35:17,130 --> 01:35:20,730 >> So good luck on that effort 2282 01:35:20,835 --> 01:35:21,568 Sally Ordinance salary 2283 01:35:21,568 --> 01:35:22,302 ordinance issues I've mentioned 2284 01:35:22,302 --> 01:35:25,806 for the first time about a week 2285 01:35:25,806 --> 01:35:26,473 ago I hope you can if not this 2286 01:35:26,473 --> 01:35:27,700 year, the next year you can 2287 01:35:27,700 --> 01:35:29,407 really be working on 2288 01:35:30,209 --> 01:35:31,178 the concept that our city 2289 01:35:31,178 --> 01:35:33,914 workers take a $50 cut in pay 2290 01:35:33,914 --> 01:35:34,214 each month That's 600 bucks a 2291 01:35:34,214 --> 01:35:36,214 year. 2292 01:35:37,451 --> 01:35:41,651 That's a savings of over two to 2293 01:35:41,888 --> 01:35:42,556 almost $2 million a year If we 2294 01:35:42,556 --> 01:35:43,423 have like 3000 plus staff 2295 01:35:43,423 --> 01:35:47,230 workers that's a lot in budget 2296 01:35:47,961 --> 01:35:48,562 savings really Consider that 2297 01:35:48,562 --> 01:35:49,263 Learned to take one for 2298 01:35:49,263 --> 01:35:52,566 the team and that it's okay 2299 01:35:52,566 --> 01:35:53,533 there can be times we can't do 2300 01:35:53,533 --> 01:35:56,469 that We MAY be at a time we can 2301 01:35:56,469 --> 01:36:00,690 next year MAY not but let's 2302 01:36:00,340 --> 01:36:04,540 hope we can to go on Item 100 2303 01:36:05,345 --> 01:36:06,130 is well when we see 1 to 1 is 2304 01:36:06,130 --> 01:36:08,413 construction of Beach Street 2305 01:36:09,249 --> 01:36:10,117 pedestrian corridor project. 2306 01:36:10,117 --> 01:36:13,921 This is an item that is dealing 2307 01:36:13,921 --> 01:36:14,555 with you know my usual issues 2308 01:36:14,555 --> 01:36:15,122 of working on better check 2309 01:36:15,122 --> 01:36:17,122 accountability and how 2310 01:36:19,930 --> 01:36:19,592 important that is And when you 2311 01:36:19,592 --> 01:36:20,294 dress better check 2312 01:36:20,294 --> 01:36:22,294 accountability You're actually 2313 01:36:23,330 --> 01:36:24,310 addressing our best practices 2314 01:36:24,310 --> 01:36:24,398 and asking to end genocide 2315 01:36:24,398 --> 01:36:25,265 basically. 2316 01:36:25,265 --> 01:36:29,680 And that's why I do the work I 2317 01:36:29,680 --> 01:36:32,572 do so we can end genocide and 2318 01:36:32,572 --> 01:36:33,273 war and with the ability park 2319 01:36:33,273 --> 01:36:33,741 issues I'll talk about later. 2320 01:36:33,741 --> 01:36:35,741 >> Thank you. 2321 01:36:37,878 --> 01:36:38,545 Next is Cynthia if I can have a 2322 01:36:38,545 --> 01:36:39,120 Gary please come forward to 2323 01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:39,713 the microphone. 2324 01:36:39,713 --> 01:36:42,683 He is our translator here will 2325 01:36:42,683 --> 01:36:43,183 be translating Cynthia from 2326 01:36:43,183 --> 01:36:45,183 French to English. 2327 01:36:46,287 --> 01:36:47,870 Cynthia is speaking on item 50 2328 01:36:47,870 --> 01:36:47,855 If you can please let her know 2329 01:36:47,855 --> 01:36:50,424 that she'll have one minute for 2330 01:36:50,424 --> 01:36:51,910 her comments and then one 2331 01:36:51,910 --> 01:36:51,725 minute for your translation. 2332 01:36:51,725 --> 01:36:52,260 Thank you, Gary, for being 2333 01:36:52,260 --> 01:36:52,493 here. 2334 01:36:52,493 --> 01:36:54,493 You're welcome. 2335 01:36:55,162 --> 01:36:55,496 Good morning, COUNCILWOMAN And 2336 01:36:55,496 --> 01:36:57,496 Council. 2337 01:37:01,670 --> 01:37:01,707 Uh, both Cynthia and Uncle 2338 01:37:01,707 --> 01:37:03,707 Wasabi Enigma Illuminator 2339 01:37:07,641 --> 01:37:08,508 Duncan come on to say that if I 2340 01:37:08,508 --> 01:37:12,108 recall there was a crack was 2341 01:37:14,480 --> 01:37:14,682 the interplay Okay, I want to 2342 01:37:14,682 --> 01:37:17,682 share about this in church 2343 01:37:18,252 --> 01:37:18,819 Wonder she said Did you group 2344 01:37:18,819 --> 01:37:19,487 ducks into the pool Is 2345 01:37:19,487 --> 01:37:21,487 immigrant refugee d'afrique 2346 01:37:23,124 --> 01:37:23,824 been blessed with their money 2347 01:37:23,824 --> 01:37:26,930 They completely want to manage 2348 01:37:26,930 --> 01:37:26,827 it or not As in we grant 2349 01:37:26,827 --> 01:37:27,495 refugee Originaire d'afrique to 2350 01:37:27,495 --> 01:37:30,495 Rosemary via San Diego News 2351 01:37:30,598 --> 01:37:31,198 It's not opposition I like to 2352 01:37:31,198 --> 01:37:33,198 second l'approbation de 2353 01:37:34,769 --> 01:37:35,569 modification proposal I don't 2354 01:37:35,569 --> 01:37:36,437 really read up on they don't 2355 01:37:36,437 --> 01:37:41,237 want to fix it I do me trust 2356 01:37:41,442 --> 01:37:42,108 and Catherine Wendler Suman and 2357 01:37:42,108 --> 01:37:44,508 Obstet and Suman w 2358 01:37:51,152 --> 01:37:51,852 marginalizing poor please your 2359 01:37:51,852 --> 01:37:52,620 mom did not come they said 2360 01:37:52,620 --> 01:37:54,988 sample present They plead their 2361 01:37:54,988 --> 01:37:55,890 model royal pleasure so men do 2362 01:37:55,890 --> 01:37:56,457 so did not comment on Suva 2363 01:37:56,457 --> 01:37:57,240 control t additive she 2364 01:37:57,240 --> 01:37:59,240 \conomique linguistic 2365 01:37:59,626 --> 01:38:00,394 administrative led and positive 2366 01:38:00,394 --> 01:38:02,763 I was here a little bit some 2367 01:38:02,763 --> 01:38:03,464 excluded participation Citoyen 2368 01:38:03,464 --> 01:38:04,131 Solari welcome onset politique 2369 01:38:04,131 --> 01:38:07,731 et de screaming I thought it 2370 01:38:08,350 --> 01:38:08,703 was his if he would rather 2371 01:38:08,703 --> 01:38:09,337 contest indecision go global 2372 01:38:09,337 --> 01:38:12,337 talent no division I made 2373 01:38:13,841 --> 01:38:14,642 the bonjela positive enunciated 2374 01:38:14,642 --> 01:38:15,409 an individual it him on speech 2375 01:38:15,409 --> 01:38:19,900 is more concerned when you see 2376 01:38:19,480 --> 01:38:20,248 do play mama reduce and if I am 2377 01:38:20,248 --> 01:38:23,848 on GOD is not excessive I 2378 01:38:26,921 --> 01:38:27,722 choose a guarantee good truly 2379 01:38:27,722 --> 01:38:28,489 is You don't do San Diego and 2380 01:38:28,489 --> 01:38:29,757 up on the Monday letter when 2381 01:38:29,757 --> 01:38:30,458 you did not audition Please 2382 01:38:30,458 --> 01:38:32,527 escape plan your time has come 2383 01:38:32,527 --> 01:38:33,394 to translate her Good morning 2384 01:38:33,394 --> 01:38:36,994 My name is sincere and I 2385 01:38:37,298 --> 01:38:39,698 represent the students from 2386 01:38:41,703 --> 01:38:42,770 the refugees from the refugees 2387 01:38:42,770 --> 01:38:47,408 in San Diego So I don't know So 2388 01:38:47,408 --> 01:38:48,175 why it is so difficult I like 2389 01:38:48,175 --> 01:38:51,775 for the council like us to 2390 01:38:52,146 --> 01:38:55,146 understand how difficult it is 2391 01:38:56,784 --> 01:38:57,452 of immigrants who come here and 2392 01:38:57,452 --> 01:39:00,955 the amount of that that they 2393 01:39:00,955 --> 01:39:01,656 require like to pay. 2394 01:39:01,656 --> 01:39:04,656 It's exorbitant So it's really 2395 01:39:07,940 --> 01:39:07,795 expensive and it's more like a 2396 01:39:07,795 --> 01:39:08,829 matter of mental lack of us. 2397 01:39:08,829 --> 01:39:13,290 So I don't know why Immigrant I 2398 01:39:14,836 --> 01:39:16,670 showed it to the council like 2399 01:39:16,670 --> 01:39:17,238 could reduce days of fee so for 2400 01:39:17,238 --> 01:39:17,972 fun for something more 2401 01:39:17,972 --> 01:39:20,708 affordable for us and that will 2402 01:39:20,708 --> 01:39:24,908 be that will be better and we 2403 01:39:25,547 --> 01:39:26,414 should and have like to to be 2404 01:39:26,414 --> 01:39:30,852 to be a by not a by we 2405 01:39:30,852 --> 01:39:34,452 shouldn't have like to to fight 2406 01:39:35,900 --> 01:39:35,990 like a for to to to let our 2407 01:39:35,990 --> 01:39:39,590 white nose So in this situation 2408 01:39:40,962 --> 01:39:41,496 so thank you thank you extra 2409 01:39:41,496 --> 01:39:41,963 time was a lot for 2410 01:39:41,963 --> 01:39:42,797 the translation. 2411 01:39:42,797 --> 01:39:45,767 >> Thank you so much Gary for 2412 01:39:45,767 --> 01:39:46,434 coming down. 2413 01:39:46,434 --> 01:39:47,168 Thank you Cynthia for your 2414 01:39:47,168 --> 01:39:49,670 comments 8700 If you can please 2415 01:39:49,670 --> 01:39:50,638 unmute and let me know which 2416 01:39:50,638 --> 01:39:54,838 item or items you wish to speak 2417 01:39:59,581 --> 01:40:01,581 to. 2418 01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:05,484 >> Thank you Only 51 please. 2419 01:40:07,956 --> 01:40:11,556 Please proceed Yes to the First 2420 01:40:12,194 --> 01:40:12,794 Amendment for North City Pure 2421 01:40:12,794 --> 01:40:14,794 Water Facility and 2422 01:40:17,232 --> 01:40:17,933 demonstration Pure water 2423 01:40:17,933 --> 01:40:19,933 Facility with Truffle 2424 01:40:22,170 --> 01:40:24,170 Technologies. 2425 01:40:27,242 --> 01:40:30,842 I celebrate this statement in c 2426 01:40:31,112 --> 01:40:35,584 p w f will be the first full 2427 01:40:35,584 --> 01:40:39,184 scale facility in the world in 2428 01:40:39,454 --> 01:40:42,454 the world using five advanced 2429 01:40:44,259 --> 01:40:44,626 water treatment processes in 2430 01:40:44,626 --> 01:40:45,360 sequence. 2431 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,360 Isn't that an amazing statement 2432 01:40:49,298 --> 01:40:53,498 to be first in the world with 2433 01:40:54,570 --> 01:40:57,570 this amazing project of pure 2434 01:40:58,540 --> 01:40:59,400 water So 20 years with Trizol. 2435 01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:01,400 That's five stars. 2436 01:41:02,144 --> 01:41:03,110 Trussell Thank you so much For 2437 01:41:03,110 --> 01:41:06,110 20 years and we appreciate you 2438 01:41:09,510 --> 01:41:09,618 And just keep us going till we 2439 01:41:09,618 --> 01:41:12,453 get to all the phases. 2440 01:41:12,453 --> 01:41:13,155 Thank you and your time helpful 2441 01:41:13,155 --> 01:41:13,889 Quickly within the five minute 2442 01:41:13,889 --> 01:41:16,889 timer also concluded there were 2443 01:41:16,959 --> 01:41:17,392 five speakers in the queue with 2444 01:41:17,392 --> 01:41:18,126 joy. 2445 01:41:18,126 --> 01:41:18,826 There are four speakers now No 2446 01:41:18,826 --> 01:41:21,226 additional speakers will be 2447 01:41:22,431 --> 01:41:23,198 taken or asco. 2448 01:41:23,198 --> 01:41:26,502 Please let us know which item 2449 01:41:26,502 --> 01:41:27,468 or items you wish to speak to. 2450 01:41:27,468 --> 01:41:31,680 Yes shop items all the items 2451 01:41:31,507 --> 01:41:34,507 and retaliation for speaking on 2452 01:41:34,643 --> 01:41:37,430 all the items especially 3030 2453 01:41:39,947 --> 01:41:40,782 as part of the proclamation. 2454 01:41:40,782 --> 01:41:43,782 >> So you cannot speak to 30 2455 01:41:44,753 --> 01:41:45,454 You can speak on the items 2456 01:41:45,454 --> 01:41:45,787 within the within the consent 2457 01:41:45,787 --> 01:41:47,787 agenda. 2458 01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:50,859 >> Okay, Ernie Casco I'm in all 2459 01:41:50,859 --> 01:41:54,459 the items trying to speak I 2460 01:41:54,763 --> 01:41:55,398 received experienced 2461 01:41:55,398 --> 01:41:57,398 retaliation myself serious 2462 01:42:00,690 --> 01:42:00,836 injuries, assaults and poisoned 2463 01:42:00,836 --> 01:42:01,737 with by hazard two more times 2464 01:42:01,737 --> 01:42:04,373 by Big Pharma poison It is 2465 01:42:04,373 --> 01:42:05,400 the health care system. 2466 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:05,541 This is genocide in America 2467 01:42:05,541 --> 01:42:07,541 shamefully over 2468 01:42:09,912 --> 01:42:10,579 the commercialized portion of a 2469 01:42:10,579 --> 01:42:11,280 public park and land Torrey 2470 01:42:11,280 --> 01:42:14,280 Pines glider part I'm dying 2471 01:42:14,883 --> 01:42:15,384 with stage four cancer that's 2472 01:42:15,384 --> 01:42:17,384 now in remission. 2473 01:42:19,540 --> 01:42:19,688 But you haven't killed my voice 2474 01:42:19,688 --> 01:42:22,688 in concern of Torrey Pines 2475 01:42:23,626 --> 01:42:24,226 Blight Report Ongoing dispute 2476 01:42:24,226 --> 01:42:24,827 The Dear Ernie letter I 2477 01:42:24,827 --> 01:42:27,827 received from the cpp is 2478 01:42:28,664 --> 01:42:29,432 completely unacceptable. 2479 01:42:29,432 --> 01:42:30,990 All it fails to accept to 2480 01:42:30,990 --> 01:42:32,990 address serious allegations 2481 01:42:33,835 --> 01:42:34,437 made to the city Council Joe 2482 01:42:34,437 --> 01:42:36,837 LaCava San Diego Police 2483 01:42:38,473 --> 01:42:39,175 Department itself it it 2484 01:42:39,175 --> 01:42:39,875 completely ignores the victim 2485 01:42:39,875 --> 01:42:42,875 and witnesses and the ongoing 2486 01:42:43,579 --> 01:42:44,313 criminal activity and public 2487 01:42:44,313 --> 01:42:44,747 safety concerns at Torrey Pines 2488 01:42:44,747 --> 01:42:46,747 Flight Report. 2489 01:42:47,483 --> 01:42:48,170 My first question is where are 2490 01:42:48,170 --> 01:42:48,651 the police reports? 2491 01:42:48,651 --> 01:42:51,510 Residents should never be 2492 01:42:51,988 --> 01:42:52,622 forced to sign an access pass 2493 01:42:52,622 --> 01:42:52,988 and waiver under threat of 2494 01:42:52,988 --> 01:42:54,988 violence. 2495 01:42:57,193 --> 01:42:57,827 I receive unanimous letters of 2496 01:42:57,827 --> 01:42:58,461 support from La Hoya Town 2497 01:42:58,461 --> 01:43:00,861 Council, the Hawaii Shores 2498 01:43:02,365 --> 01:43:03,650 Association, the University Kim 2499 01:43:03,650 --> 01:43:05,465 Black Community Planning Group 2500 01:43:06,435 --> 01:43:07,136 to stop this yet core issues 2501 01:43:07,136 --> 01:43:07,503 remain ignored while problems 2502 01:43:07,503 --> 01:43:09,503 continue. 2503 01:43:11,407 --> 01:43:12,175 You haven't killed my voice. 2504 01:43:12,175 --> 01:43:15,175 I'm asking three things from 2505 01:43:16,412 --> 01:43:17,460 the City council to restore 2506 01:43:17,460 --> 01:43:20,646 the park to the people and 2507 01:43:21,183 --> 01:43:21,918 protect us from future abuse 2508 01:43:21,918 --> 01:43:25,518 First thing Where are the first 2509 01:43:25,921 --> 01:43:26,556 Where are the police reports of 2510 01:43:26,556 --> 01:43:27,230 the victim and witnesses? 2511 01:43:27,230 --> 01:43:27,624 Let's see them. 2512 01:43:27,624 --> 01:43:30,240 Second stop the illegal 2513 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:32,280 collection of public fundings 2514 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:32,762 into private accounts with a 2515 01:43:32,762 --> 01:43:36,650 full city audit of Torrey Pines 2516 01:43:36,650 --> 01:43:36,733 Slide report. 2517 01:43:36,733 --> 01:43:39,133 Third restore lawful public 2518 01:43:39,768 --> 01:43:40,436 access to ensure no one is 2519 01:43:40,436 --> 01:43:41,137 forced into signing waivers. 2520 01:43:41,137 --> 01:43:44,137 It's time to enforce American 2521 01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:45,775 law not administrative law and 2522 01:43:45,775 --> 01:43:48,775 stand up for our constitutional 2523 01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:50,179 recreational rights and 2524 01:43:50,179 --> 01:43:50,880 freedoms and implement the San 2525 01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,280 Diego recreational waiver that 2526 01:43:54,283 --> 01:43:54,884 ends this dispute over our 2527 01:43:54,884 --> 01:43:57,284 freedom at public parks. 2528 01:43:59,722 --> 01:44:00,389 Thank you, Ernie Casco. 2529 01:44:00,389 --> 01:44:01,124 >> Next is Hector. 2530 01:44:01,124 --> 01:44:03,693 If you can please unmute and 2531 01:44:03,693 --> 01:44:04,360 let me know which item or items 2532 01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:07,360 you wish to speak to. 2533 01:44:07,864 --> 01:44:08,264 >> I'd like to speak to 5051 2534 01:44:08,264 --> 01:44:08,765 and 52. 2535 01:44:08,765 --> 01:44:09,398 >> Thank you. 2536 01:44:09,398 --> 01:44:09,866 You'll have three minutes. 2537 01:44:09,866 --> 01:44:11,866 Please proceed. 2538 01:44:14,300 --> 01:44:14,571 So on item 50 the Coastal 2539 01:44:14,571 --> 01:44:16,571 Commission the Coastal 2540 01:44:17,707 --> 01:44:18,700 Commission has done us a lot of 2541 01:44:18,700 --> 01:44:18,842 harm. 2542 01:44:18,842 --> 01:44:19,642 It takes a lot of time to get 2543 01:44:19,642 --> 01:44:22,642 and to improve to approve 2544 01:44:23,312 --> 01:44:26,312 things And they're just like 2545 01:44:27,183 --> 01:44:27,917 brought a lot of hurt on city 2546 01:44:27,917 --> 01:44:30,917 build skyscrapers by the beach. 2547 01:44:31,921 --> 01:44:32,622 We should just ignore 2548 01:44:32,622 --> 01:44:33,289 the Coastal Commission as much 2549 01:44:33,289 --> 01:44:33,756 We can just tell them we're 2550 01:44:33,756 --> 01:44:36,156 going to do it. 2551 01:44:37,159 --> 01:44:37,527 We can do our own coastal 2552 01:44:37,527 --> 01:44:39,527 decisions. 2553 01:44:42,198 --> 01:44:42,766 We the coast we love our coast. 2554 01:44:42,766 --> 01:44:43,800 We know our coast. 2555 01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,169 We don't let them talk And it's 2556 01:44:46,169 --> 01:44:48,569 just another bureaucracy with 2557 01:44:51,141 --> 01:44:54,741 the Democratic scam going on in 2558 01:44:55,450 --> 01:44:55,712 our city And then on the 51 on 2559 01:44:55,712 --> 01:44:56,446 the pier water I think it's 2560 01:44:56,446 --> 01:45:00,460 good that Mexico is looking for 2561 01:45:00,283 --> 01:45:01,183 pure water. 2562 01:45:01,183 --> 01:45:01,918 I say we just dam up the border 2563 01:45:01,918 --> 01:45:05,518 crossing and let them deal with 2564 01:45:05,622 --> 01:45:06,388 the sewage water. 2565 01:45:06,388 --> 01:45:06,690 It'll it'll put a fire under 2566 01:45:06,690 --> 01:45:08,690 there. 2567 01:45:09,326 --> 01:45:10,260 They can smell some of that 2568 01:45:10,260 --> 01:45:10,493 Mexican They're giving us 2569 01:45:10,493 --> 01:45:12,493 the pure water. 2570 01:45:14,664 --> 01:45:15,432 I think we should do audits 2571 01:45:15,432 --> 01:45:19,320 every month and publish them at 2572 01:45:19,236 --> 01:45:20,103 the city council because you 2573 01:45:20,103 --> 01:45:20,437 know this is going to be a huge 2574 01:45:20,437 --> 01:45:22,437 overrun. 2575 01:45:24,274 --> 01:45:24,975 This is like we can't even 2576 01:45:24,975 --> 01:45:25,675 handle parking at the zoo let 2577 01:45:25,675 --> 01:45:28,675 alone the billions of dollars 2578 01:45:29,450 --> 01:45:30,130 it's going to cost us. 2579 01:45:30,130 --> 01:45:33,616 We need to keep an eye on this 2580 01:45:33,616 --> 01:45:34,217 And the lady that runs it, 2581 01:45:34,217 --> 01:45:34,885 she's not tough enough. 2582 01:45:34,885 --> 01:45:37,885 She's she's like looking for 2583 01:45:39,289 --> 01:45:40,900 her partner. 2584 01:45:40,900 --> 01:45:43,660 We know we need somebody who's 2585 01:45:43,660 --> 01:45:43,994 just we ain't going to buy no 2586 01:45:43,994 --> 01:45:44,361 extras. 2587 01:45:44,361 --> 01:45:46,361 Take it. 2588 01:45:48,332 --> 01:45:48,632 She could get tough to speak of 2589 01:45:48,632 --> 01:45:49,466 . 2590 01:45:49,466 --> 01:45:50,167 She has a 15 year old daughter 2591 01:45:50,167 --> 01:45:53,303 and the guy is looking for my 2592 01:45:53,303 --> 01:45:53,603 looking to take her out on a 2593 01:45:53,603 --> 01:45:54,370 date. 2594 01:45:54,370 --> 01:45:57,370 He's 28 Italian guy with a 2595 01:45:58,141 --> 01:45:58,474 heavy hairy chest and gold 2596 01:45:58,474 --> 01:45:59,900 chains. 2597 01:45:59,900 --> 01:46:01,409 She'd be saying no. 2598 01:46:02,879 --> 01:46:03,647 You taking her out? 2599 01:46:03,647 --> 01:46:04,214 That's what she's got to say. 2600 01:46:04,214 --> 01:46:06,614 With the cost overruns 2601 01:46:07,251 --> 01:46:07,950 the contractors are going to 2602 01:46:07,950 --> 01:46:08,418 She's an easy mark for 2603 01:46:08,418 --> 01:46:10,418 the contractors. 2604 01:46:12,122 --> 01:46:12,990 It's not it's not a committee 2605 01:46:12,990 --> 01:46:16,592 saying no, she needs to say no 2606 01:46:16,592 --> 01:46:17,661 and no more overruns. 2607 01:46:17,661 --> 01:46:21,799 We're going to make up a lot of 2608 01:46:21,799 --> 01:46:22,499 stuff And then the pay thing 52 2609 01:46:22,499 --> 01:46:24,301 is like Hey, times are tough 2610 01:46:24,301 --> 01:46:24,601 man and we're given a 10% 2611 01:46:24,601 --> 01:46:25,269 raise. 2612 01:46:25,269 --> 01:46:28,269 We need to weed out 2613 01:46:29,506 --> 01:46:30,240 the employees Anybody that 2614 01:46:30,240 --> 01:46:30,707 celebrated Charlie Kirk's death 2615 01:46:30,707 --> 01:46:32,707 needs to leave. 2616 01:46:34,478 --> 01:46:35,212 We cannot pay them nothing we 2617 01:46:35,212 --> 01:46:38,212 never research The employees is 2618 01:46:39,516 --> 01:46:39,817 celebrated his death and we're 2619 01:46:39,817 --> 01:46:41,817 taken. 2620 01:46:43,954 --> 01:46:44,655 We'll have a bounty If you turn 2621 01:46:44,655 --> 01:46:47,958 in one of your employees who 2622 01:46:47,958 --> 01:46:48,659 celebrated and say we'll give 2623 01:46:48,659 --> 01:46:51,590 you $1,000 and that person 2624 01:46:52,796 --> 01:46:53,429 needs to go There's a bunch of 2625 01:46:53,429 --> 01:46:54,365 them on the city payroll. 2626 01:46:54,365 --> 01:46:57,965 Those guys need to go whatever 2627 01:46:58,350 --> 01:46:58,802 color their hair is. 2628 01:46:58,802 --> 01:46:59,570 But whatever their deal is it's 2629 01:46:59,570 --> 01:47:02,570 probably something to do with 2630 01:47:02,907 --> 01:47:03,541 the alphabet crew celebrating 2631 01:47:03,541 --> 01:47:06,541 the death of Charlie Kirk. 2632 01:47:08,179 --> 01:47:08,846 So the alphabet is 2633 01:47:08,846 --> 01:47:11,846 the hopefully it's going to 2634 01:47:11,915 --> 01:47:12,616 it's heading downhill man. 2635 01:47:12,616 --> 01:47:15,160 >> Hopefully they'll learn how 2636 01:47:16,854 --> 01:47:17,254 to spell me. 2637 01:47:17,254 --> 01:47:18,220 Thank you. 2638 01:47:18,220 --> 01:47:18,722 If you raise your hand after 2639 01:47:18,722 --> 01:47:22,322 the five minute timer you will 2640 01:47:23,227 --> 01:47:23,928 not be taken But you can 2641 01:47:23,928 --> 01:47:24,595 definitely submit comments at 2642 01:47:24,595 --> 01:47:25,296 City Clerk at San diego.Gov. 2643 01:47:25,296 --> 01:47:27,164 Judy Strang If you can please 2644 01:47:27,164 --> 01:47:27,898 unmute and let me know which 2645 01:47:27,898 --> 01:47:28,165 item or items you wish to speak 2646 01:47:28,165 --> 01:47:28,499 to. 2647 01:47:28,499 --> 01:47:28,933 >> Yes. 2648 01:47:28,933 --> 01:47:30,933 Good morning. 2649 01:47:31,869 --> 01:47:35,469 I'd like to speak to s503 2650 01:47:35,539 --> 01:47:36,173 regarding the First Amendment 2651 01:47:36,173 --> 01:47:36,907 to the Employee assistance 2652 01:47:36,907 --> 01:47:40,507 program here at the city that's 2653 01:47:40,544 --> 01:47:41,178 being provided to us by 2654 01:47:41,178 --> 01:47:41,912 Evernorth Care Solutions. 2655 01:47:41,912 --> 01:47:45,149 I think it would have been 2656 01:47:45,149 --> 01:47:45,916 extraordinarily useful to have 2657 01:47:45,916 --> 01:47:49,516 a staff report on the city's 2658 01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:51,856 APRIL Cobra. 2659 01:47:51,856 --> 01:47:55,159 This is a program provided to 2660 01:47:55,159 --> 01:47:55,893 employees generally speaking in 2661 01:47:55,893 --> 01:47:58,893 my experience with eap programs 2662 01:47:59,931 --> 01:48:00,698 it's for behavioral health 2663 01:48:00,698 --> 01:48:01,299 issues and we are grateful that 2664 01:48:01,299 --> 01:48:01,899 the city recognizes how 2665 01:48:01,899 --> 01:48:04,899 important it is to their 2666 01:48:05,403 --> 01:48:06,237 employees. 2667 01:48:06,237 --> 01:48:07,138 That was not the case 40 years 2668 01:48:07,138 --> 01:48:09,707 ago so it's about time We have 2669 01:48:09,707 --> 01:48:10,441 recognized over the last 2670 01:48:10,441 --> 01:48:13,441 several decades how valuable it 2671 01:48:14,712 --> 01:48:15,279 is to help our employees with 2672 01:48:15,279 --> 01:48:15,646 their alcohol and drug 2673 01:48:15,646 --> 01:48:17,646 problems. 2674 01:48:20,150 --> 01:48:20,818 Those problems affect 2675 01:48:20,818 --> 01:48:21,586 the bottom line of the city. 2676 01:48:21,586 --> 01:48:24,586 They affect job performance and 2677 01:48:25,857 --> 01:48:26,524 productivity and nothing more. 2678 01:48:26,524 --> 01:48:28,924 So that impaired cognitive 2679 01:48:30,128 --> 01:48:30,728 function because it creates bad 2680 01:48:30,728 --> 01:48:31,462 decision making You MISS 2681 01:48:31,462 --> 01:48:34,462 Deadlines, you have sloppy work 2682 01:48:35,566 --> 01:48:36,267 and decreased efficiency and 2683 01:48:36,267 --> 01:48:36,901 nothing so much as someone who 2684 01:48:36,901 --> 01:48:37,268 is under the influence of 2685 01:48:37,268 --> 01:48:39,268 marijuana. 2686 01:48:40,304 --> 01:48:40,738 So thank you to this group. 2687 01:48:40,738 --> 01:48:41,438 >> Thank you. 2688 01:48:41,438 --> 01:48:44,410 That does conclude your time. 2689 01:48:44,410 --> 01:48:47,410 Our next speaker is Jennifer 2690 01:48:48,946 --> 01:48:49,814 Bennett And please begin. 2691 01:48:49,814 --> 01:48:52,814 >> Hi, I'm John Hogan here 2692 01:48:53,851 --> 01:48:54,552 speaking from Jennifer Bennett 2693 01:48:54,552 --> 01:48:58,152 who had to leave just now. 2694 01:48:59,524 --> 01:49:00,124 Quickly on behalf of 2695 01:49:00,124 --> 01:49:00,791 the community of Redwood 2696 01:49:00,791 --> 01:49:01,459 Village and the Eastern Area 2697 01:49:01,459 --> 01:49:03,859 Community Planning Group, we 2698 01:49:03,895 --> 01:49:04,662 asked for the approval of funds 2699 01:49:04,662 --> 01:49:08,262 for the Stream view drive green 2700 01:49:08,632 --> 01:49:09,300 infrastructure improvements for 2701 01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:09,701 the health and safety of our 2702 01:49:09,701 --> 01:49:11,701 communities. 2703 01:49:12,837 --> 01:49:14,837 This is item 100. 2704 01:49:16,607 --> 01:49:17,375 We'd like to thank the Council 2705 01:49:17,375 --> 01:49:18,760 District nine Rep Sean De la 2706 01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:18,743 Rivera and all the city staff 2707 01:49:18,743 --> 01:49:21,143 for their consideration and 2708 01:49:21,212 --> 01:49:21,913 work on this project. 2709 01:49:21,913 --> 01:49:24,913 We appreciate it very much. 2710 01:49:25,283 --> 01:49:25,817 Been many years that we've been 2711 01:49:25,817 --> 01:49:27,817 advocating for this. 2712 01:49:30,655 --> 01:49:31,156 >> Thank you very much. 2713 01:49:31,156 --> 01:49:31,790 Thank you. 2714 01:49:31,790 --> 01:49:34,190 That does conclude public 2715 01:49:35,493 --> 01:49:36,270 comment on the consent agenda. 2716 01:49:36,270 --> 01:49:36,393 >> All right. 2717 01:49:36,393 --> 01:49:37,162 Thank you. 2718 01:49:37,162 --> 01:49:37,562 City Clerk and deputy clerk for 2719 01:49:37,562 --> 01:49:39,562 wrapping up. 2720 01:49:40,465 --> 01:49:41,132 With that we'll turn it over to 2721 01:49:41,132 --> 01:49:41,766 the council members for any 2722 01:49:41,766 --> 01:49:44,166 questions or comments and 2723 01:49:44,769 --> 01:49:45,569 entertain a motion. 2724 01:49:45,569 --> 01:49:45,970 We'll start with council member 2725 01:49:45,970 --> 01:49:46,338 Isla Rivera. 2726 01:49:46,338 --> 01:49:46,705 All right. 2727 01:49:46,705 --> 01:49:48,705 Thank you. 2728 01:49:49,541 --> 01:49:50,208 Council PRESIDENT. 2729 01:49:50,208 --> 01:49:50,841 I will move approval of 2730 01:49:50,841 --> 01:49:53,841 the outcome of the consent 2731 01:49:54,679 --> 01:49:55,447 agenda. 2732 01:49:55,447 --> 01:49:56,113 I just wanted to speak briefly 2733 01:49:56,113 --> 01:49:58,113 to item 100 authorizes 2734 01:49:59,618 --> 01:50:00,285 stormwater department to accept 2735 01:50:00,285 --> 01:50:00,952 and appropriate funding from 2736 01:50:00,952 --> 01:50:01,519 the California Department of 2737 01:50:01,519 --> 01:50:03,519 Housing and Community 2738 01:50:04,189 --> 01:50:04,789 Development 2020 for disaster 2739 01:50:04,789 --> 01:50:06,789 recovery infrastructure. 2740 01:50:09,194 --> 01:50:12,194 Mitt R.I.P. Fund. 2741 01:50:14,566 --> 01:50:17,566 So that very long unwieldy 2742 01:50:18,904 --> 01:50:21,904 title is really beneath that 2743 01:50:24,900 --> 01:50:24,609 long unwieldy title is a 2744 01:50:24,609 --> 01:50:25,343 project that's going to 2745 01:50:25,343 --> 01:50:25,944 directly improve the quality of 2746 01:50:25,944 --> 01:50:28,344 life for Redwood Village 2747 01:50:28,913 --> 01:50:29,448 resident residents in my 2748 01:50:29,448 --> 01:50:30,148 district and beyond. 2749 01:50:30,148 --> 01:50:33,748 Stream View Drive has been in 2750 01:50:33,952 --> 01:50:34,686 the works for many years and I 2751 01:50:34,686 --> 01:50:35,420 want to thank the Stormwater 2752 01:50:35,420 --> 01:50:35,854 Engineering and Capital Project 2753 01:50:35,854 --> 01:50:37,854 team for this. 2754 01:50:39,910 --> 01:50:39,725 I also want to thank some of 2755 01:50:39,725 --> 01:50:40,325 our community leaders Lyn, 2756 01:50:40,325 --> 01:50:42,725 Bettina and Jennifer for 2757 01:50:43,862 --> 01:50:44,463 community organizing work on 2758 01:50:44,463 --> 01:50:45,130 this and never allowing 2759 01:50:45,130 --> 01:50:47,499 the city and my office to 2760 01:50:47,499 --> 01:50:50,499 forget that this is important 2761 01:50:52,304 --> 01:50:53,700 and needs to get done. 2762 01:50:53,700 --> 01:50:56,670 Stream View Drive has been a 2763 01:50:57,308 --> 01:50:57,976 long overdue project just like 2764 01:50:57,976 --> 01:50:58,577 this one that combines blue 2765 01:50:58,577 --> 01:50:59,211 green infrastructure and 2766 01:50:59,211 --> 01:51:02,211 supports our efforts to be 2767 01:51:02,413 --> 01:51:03,215 climate resilient. 2768 01:51:03,215 --> 01:51:03,949 It's situated just upstream and 2769 01:51:03,949 --> 01:51:06,949 tributary to Choice Creek which 2770 01:51:07,186 --> 01:51:07,819 is an urban waterway that was 2771 01:51:07,819 --> 01:51:08,352 impacted during the severe 2772 01:51:08,352 --> 01:51:10,352 rainstorms in 2024. 2773 01:51:12,524 --> 01:51:13,225 And this project will improve 2774 01:51:13,225 --> 01:51:13,926 the capture and conveyance of 2775 01:51:13,926 --> 01:51:16,926 urban runoff along the Stream 2776 01:51:16,995 --> 01:51:17,596 stream View Drive and install 2777 01:51:17,596 --> 01:51:19,596 new stormwater treatment 2778 01:51:20,365 --> 01:51:20,732 systems within the 258 acre 2779 01:51:20,732 --> 01:51:22,732 watershed. 2780 01:51:25,104 --> 01:51:25,838 There are some really great 2781 01:51:25,838 --> 01:51:26,538 components of this including an 2782 01:51:26,538 --> 01:51:28,938 underground trash capture belt 2783 01:51:29,941 --> 01:51:30,642 underground stormwater 2784 01:51:30,642 --> 01:51:31,209 detention vault and multi-use 2785 01:51:31,209 --> 01:51:33,209 treatment area vault. 2786 01:51:35,113 --> 01:51:35,848 Together they will help reduce 2787 01:51:35,848 --> 01:51:37,871 pollutant levels such as trash, 2788 01:51:37,871 --> 01:51:38,330 sediment, zinc and other 2789 01:51:38,330 --> 01:51:38,321 contaminants entering Choi's 2790 01:51:38,321 --> 01:51:39,985 Creek. 2791 01:51:39,985 --> 01:51:40,552 Additionally, the detention 2792 01:51:40,552 --> 01:51:41,219 belt will help manage 2793 01:51:41,219 --> 01:51:43,619 stormwater by reducing peak 2794 01:51:45,190 --> 01:51:45,924 flows into the creek. 2795 01:51:45,924 --> 01:51:46,525 So these are smart investments 2796 01:51:46,525 --> 01:51:47,226 the type of things that 2797 01:51:47,226 --> 01:51:49,928 the city should keep pursuing 2798 01:51:49,928 --> 01:51:50,763 as we move forward. 2799 01:51:50,763 --> 01:51:51,430 I want to say thank you again 2800 01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:52,640 to our community leaders for 2801 01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,833 their advocacy on this and 2802 01:51:54,833 --> 01:51:55,334 the city workers who helped 2803 01:51:55,334 --> 01:51:56,340 make this happen. 2804 01:51:56,340 --> 01:51:59,340 Council PRESIDENT I assume you 2805 01:51:59,805 --> 01:52:00,672 probably understood everything 2806 01:52:00,672 --> 01:52:01,340 that I said better than I did. 2807 01:52:01,340 --> 01:52:01,673 >> But that concludes my 2808 01:52:01,673 --> 01:52:03,673 motion. 2809 01:52:05,411 --> 01:52:06,178 All right. 2810 01:52:06,178 --> 01:52:06,746 Yeah, I think you nailed it. 2811 01:52:06,746 --> 01:52:07,446 I think the community 2812 01:52:07,446 --> 01:52:07,713 understands it and appreciate 2813 01:52:07,713 --> 01:52:09,713 it. 2814 01:52:09,882 --> 01:52:10,616 So we have a motion by council 2815 01:52:10,616 --> 01:52:11,184 member Ella Rivera and we'll go 2816 01:52:11,184 --> 01:52:11,550 next to council member 2817 01:52:11,550 --> 01:52:13,550 Whitburn. 2818 01:52:13,853 --> 01:52:14,619 Thank you. 2819 01:52:14,619 --> 01:52:15,287 Council PRESIDENT I'm happy to 2820 01:52:15,287 --> 01:52:15,821 second the motion to approve 2821 01:52:15,821 --> 01:52:17,821 the consent agenda. 2822 01:52:19,558 --> 01:52:20,159 Just note how pleased I am with 2823 01:52:20,159 --> 01:52:20,793 item 101 which is that 2824 01:52:20,793 --> 01:52:23,193 agreement with Civic said 2825 01:52:23,796 --> 01:52:24,463 the year ago for construction 2826 01:52:24,463 --> 01:52:25,970 of the b Street pedestrian 2827 01:52:25,970 --> 01:52:27,970 corridor project downtown. 2828 01:52:28,467 --> 01:52:29,330 This is a project that has been 2829 01:52:29,330 --> 01:52:29,668 decades in the making. 2830 01:52:29,668 --> 01:52:32,668 It's going to provide much 2831 01:52:32,972 --> 01:52:33,739 needed pedestrian improvements 2832 01:52:33,739 --> 01:52:34,339 that will make it easier for 2833 01:52:34,339 --> 01:52:34,807 people to access public 2834 01:52:34,807 --> 01:52:35,508 transportation. 2835 01:52:35,508 --> 01:52:38,377 It will increase safety around 2836 01:52:38,377 --> 01:52:39,780 the set of a depot for downtown 2837 01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:41,478 residents and visitors alike. 2838 01:52:42,548 --> 01:52:43,114 This action advances our goals 2839 01:52:43,114 --> 01:52:45,114 of improving mobility, 2840 01:52:48,120 --> 01:52:48,487 accessibility and productivity 2841 01:52:48,487 --> 01:52:49,288 downtown. 2842 01:52:49,288 --> 01:52:49,954 And I want to thank city staff 2843 01:52:49,954 --> 01:52:50,622 and civic San Diego for all 2844 01:52:50,622 --> 01:52:52,224 their work in moving this 2845 01:52:52,224 --> 01:52:52,925 project towards construction. 2846 01:52:52,925 --> 01:52:53,292 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 2847 01:52:53,292 --> 01:52:53,759 All right. 2848 01:52:53,759 --> 01:52:54,660 Thank you, sir. 2849 01:52:54,660 --> 01:52:57,997 So we have a motion by council 2850 01:52:57,997 --> 01:52:58,664 member Eli Rivera and second by 2851 01:52:58,664 --> 01:52:59,165 COUNCILMAN Whitburn to move 2852 01:52:59,165 --> 01:53:01,165 the consent item. 2853 01:53:02,468 --> 01:53:02,902 I don't see anybody else on 2854 01:53:02,902 --> 01:53:03,603 the lights so. 2855 01:53:03,603 --> 01:53:03,970 Clerk Deputy Clerk Please call 2856 01:53:03,970 --> 01:53:05,337 the roll. 2857 01:53:05,337 --> 01:53:05,671 I have set up the voting 2858 01:53:05,671 --> 01:53:07,671 system. 2859 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:21,854 >> Please cast your vote. 2860 01:53:21,854 --> 01:53:24,254 Councilmember Yellow era didn't 2861 01:53:26,492 --> 01:53:27,590 record If you did. 2862 01:53:27,590 --> 01:53:29,590 There you go. 2863 01:53:31,264 --> 01:53:32,131 Thank you. 2864 01:53:32,131 --> 01:53:34,531 >> The consent agenda passes 2865 01:53:36,769 --> 01:53:37,470 unanimously six nothing with 2866 01:53:37,470 --> 01:53:37,937 council districts four, five, 2867 01:53:37,937 --> 01:53:39,937 seven and eight. 2868 01:53:41,140 --> 01:53:41,674 Absent. 2869 01:53:41,674 --> 01:53:42,410 >> All right. 2870 01:53:42,410 --> 01:53:44,410 Thank you. 2871 01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:47,914 So with that oh, do we have any 2872 01:53:47,914 --> 01:53:48,247 comments from the mayor's 2873 01:53:48,247 --> 01:53:48,848 office? 2874 01:53:48,848 --> 01:53:51,248 City council member city 2875 01:53:51,617 --> 01:53:52,351 attorney, independent 2876 01:53:52,351 --> 01:53:55,351 independent budget analyst or a 2877 01:53:55,788 --> 01:53:56,155 city clerk not seeing any 2878 01:53:56,155 --> 01:53:56,823 requests. 2879 01:53:56,823 --> 01:53:57,390 We will now take up the non 2880 01:53:57,390 --> 01:53:59,390 agenda Public comment. 2881 01:54:01,327 --> 01:54:02,610 Council members respect and 2882 01:54:02,610 --> 01:54:02,628 appreciate the public input and 2883 01:54:02,628 --> 01:54:03,329 are fully committed to 2884 01:54:03,329 --> 01:54:05,329 protecting every participant's 2885 01:54:06,132 --> 01:54:06,733 free speech rights at council 2886 01:54:06,733 --> 01:54:07,367 and committee meetings. 2887 01:54:07,367 --> 01:54:09,767 Clerk Please proceed with 2888 01:54:10,904 --> 01:54:13,304 public comment per rule 2.7 2889 01:54:16,900 --> 01:54:16,709 Known Agenda Public Comment as 2890 01:54:16,709 --> 01:54:17,410 an opportunity for members of 2891 01:54:17,410 --> 01:54:18,111 the public to comment on items 2892 01:54:18,111 --> 01:54:19,979 that are not on the agenda but 2893 01:54:19,979 --> 01:54:20,580 within the subject matter 2894 01:54:20,580 --> 01:54:20,913 jurisdiction of the City 2895 01:54:20,913 --> 01:54:22,913 Council. 2896 01:54:24,185 --> 01:54:24,517 Each speaker will have two 2897 01:54:24,517 --> 01:54:25,218 minutes. 2898 01:54:25,218 --> 01:54:25,919 Please note if there are eight 2899 01:54:25,919 --> 01:54:29,422 or more speakers on a single 2900 01:54:29,422 --> 01:54:30,123 topic the maximum time for 2901 01:54:30,123 --> 01:54:30,824 the topic will be 60 Minutes. 2902 01:54:30,824 --> 01:54:33,626 If you are in chambers please 2903 01:54:33,626 --> 01:54:34,493 submit your speaker slip. 2904 01:54:34,493 --> 01:54:35,228 If you are joining us virtually 2905 01:54:35,228 --> 01:54:35,928 please raise your hand to speak 2906 01:54:35,928 --> 01:54:39,528 by tapping the raise your hand 2907 01:54:40,990 --> 01:54:40,700 icon or if you are a call in 2908 01:54:40,700 --> 01:54:42,700 participant start nine. 2909 01:54:43,503 --> 01:54:46,503 We will begin with in-person 2910 01:54:48,508 --> 01:54:50,908 comment Jacob Lewis Edwards 2911 01:54:54,648 --> 01:54:55,150 again good morning Council men 2912 01:54:55,150 --> 01:54:55,982 and women. 2913 01:54:55,982 --> 01:55:00,182 So it was years ago my family 2914 01:55:00,253 --> 01:55:00,920 put the mafia on me to squash 2915 01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:04,520 any trace of anything I was 2916 01:55:04,524 --> 01:55:05,191 calling out in my family had 2917 01:55:05,191 --> 01:55:06,920 nothing to do with the mafia 2918 01:55:06,920 --> 01:55:09,595 That was my family did that to 2919 01:55:09,595 --> 01:55:10,363 me. 2920 01:55:10,363 --> 01:55:10,930 They hijacked my mom's younger 2921 01:55:10,930 --> 01:55:11,665 brother's position in 2922 01:55:11,665 --> 01:55:14,650 Department of Homeland Security 2923 01:55:14,101 --> 01:55:14,834 over our country Cyber security 2924 01:55:14,834 --> 01:55:17,834 networks over time that enabled 2925 01:55:19,339 --> 01:55:19,872 them hijacking our federal 2926 01:55:19,872 --> 01:55:20,674 government agencies. 2927 01:55:20,674 --> 01:55:21,408 I say now not their fault of 2928 01:55:21,408 --> 01:55:24,578 course they have taken the keys 2929 01:55:24,578 --> 01:55:24,978 to our country If they were 2930 01:55:24,978 --> 01:55:25,745 able to. 2931 01:55:25,745 --> 01:55:26,213 I blame those in Washington dc 2932 01:55:26,213 --> 01:55:28,213 who allowed it. 2933 01:55:30,283 --> 01:55:30,617 I was terrorized all along 2934 01:55:30,617 --> 01:55:31,318 the way. 2935 01:55:31,318 --> 01:55:32,180 My civil rights and liberties 2936 01:55:32,180 --> 01:55:35,180 violated in the grossest ways 2937 01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:35,756 you could imagine My human 2938 01:55:35,756 --> 01:55:36,423 rights grossly violated with 2939 01:55:36,423 --> 01:55:38,823 our government agencies used 2940 01:55:40,794 --> 01:55:41,428 against us Chinese espionage on 2941 01:55:41,428 --> 01:55:42,950 the thing the entire time. 2942 01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:45,950 Watch the clip Jacob Edward 2943 01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:47,300 speaks on YouTube where I spoke 2944 01:55:47,300 --> 01:55:50,300 right here at this microphone 2945 01:55:51,710 --> 01:55:51,805 is where the genocide Federal 2946 01:55:51,805 --> 01:55:52,439 Reserve families cutting a deal 2947 01:55:52,439 --> 01:55:56,390 to wipe out the debt of 2948 01:55:56,109 --> 01:55:56,910 trillions of the Chinese. 2949 01:55:56,910 --> 01:55:57,210 How dare they hand our country 2950 01:55:57,210 --> 01:55:59,210 over? 2951 01:56:01,348 --> 01:56:02,490 But the deal of genocide to 2952 01:56:02,490 --> 01:56:02,749 wipe out the best of the best 2953 01:56:02,749 --> 01:56:06,949 of our country so to the best 2954 01:56:07,554 --> 01:56:08,155 of their best you come in 2955 01:56:08,155 --> 01:56:08,789 the recruiting them from 2956 01:56:08,789 --> 01:56:09,523 the Department of Homeland 2957 01:56:09,523 --> 01:56:11,825 Security's database at the best 2958 01:56:11,825 --> 01:56:12,459 this country has and 2959 01:56:12,459 --> 01:56:13,260 slaughtering them in mass 2960 01:56:13,260 --> 01:56:16,260 numbers to the best of 2961 01:56:16,797 --> 01:56:17,297 the Chinese can come in. 2962 01:56:17,297 --> 01:56:17,698 How dare they? 2963 01:56:17,698 --> 01:56:19,698 Our country. 2964 01:56:22,436 --> 01:56:25,436 Our country, our local leaders, 2965 01:56:28,242 --> 01:56:28,875 our community needs to stand up 2966 01:56:28,875 --> 01:56:31,875 that this is our country. 2967 01:56:32,679 --> 01:56:33,347 This is our livelihoods. 2968 01:56:33,347 --> 01:56:33,647 Our country's future is at 2969 01:56:33,647 --> 01:56:35,647 stake. 2970 01:56:38,452 --> 01:56:39,319 Our lives are at stake. 2971 01:56:39,319 --> 01:56:40,190 That I urge you every one of 2972 01:56:40,190 --> 01:56:43,619 you and folk in the community 2973 01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:44,725 this time to quit going along 2974 01:56:44,725 --> 01:56:45,592 with this acting like it's not 2975 01:56:45,592 --> 01:56:49,192 going on running from it for 2976 01:56:50,300 --> 01:56:50,731 everybody to fight together 2977 01:56:50,731 --> 01:56:51,432 Stand up for our country, for 2978 01:56:51,432 --> 01:56:54,601 the people, by the people that 2979 01:56:54,601 --> 01:56:55,369 don't include your time. 2980 01:56:55,369 --> 01:56:57,769 >> Our next speaker is 2981 01:57:10,484 --> 01:57:11,218 allegedly Audra. 2982 01:57:11,218 --> 01:57:11,952 >> It's interesting people get 2983 01:57:11,952 --> 01:57:14,952 offended when I talk about 2984 01:57:15,623 --> 01:57:16,690 pedophiles. 2985 01:57:16,690 --> 01:57:20,890 Makes me wonder if you guys are 2986 01:57:21,862 --> 01:57:22,563 pedophiles because like to be 2987 01:57:22,563 --> 01:57:26,163 offended to talk I should be 2988 01:57:27,568 --> 01:57:28,302 that you're offended that that 2989 01:57:28,302 --> 01:57:28,936 happens that you shouldn't want 2990 01:57:28,936 --> 01:57:31,936 children to be raped or 2991 01:57:32,606 --> 01:57:33,374 sexually assaulted. 2992 01:57:33,374 --> 01:57:36,374 I'm not promoting it and 2993 01:57:38,211 --> 01:57:38,912 glorifying it as a sexual 2994 01:57:38,912 --> 01:57:39,680 preference and that as long as 2995 01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,680 a pedophile is living it's 2996 01:57:44,285 --> 01:57:44,985 authentic life and being their 2997 01:57:44,985 --> 01:57:47,385 authentic selves then those 2998 01:57:49,990 --> 01:57:50,691 children don't matter all while 2999 01:57:50,691 --> 01:57:54,291 we say you care about all 3000 01:57:54,929 --> 01:57:55,595 people I would make it suffice 3001 01:57:55,595 --> 01:57:59,195 to say that you don't care 3002 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:03,000 about victims that you 3003 01:58:06,540 --> 01:58:07,241 perpetuate creating them and 3004 01:58:07,241 --> 01:58:07,942 you consider me talking about 3005 01:58:07,942 --> 01:58:10,942 pedophiles hate speech or anti 3006 01:58:13,140 --> 01:58:13,748 Semitic or homophobe big or you 3007 01:58:13,748 --> 01:58:14,448 know I'm a bigot or racist or 3008 01:58:14,448 --> 01:58:18,480 whatever you know what I mean? 3009 01:58:18,586 --> 01:58:19,287 All the gaslighting names So 3010 01:58:19,287 --> 01:58:22,287 you're willing to gaslight me 3011 01:58:24,458 --> 01:58:25,326 for talking about it and hating 3012 01:58:25,326 --> 01:58:26,270 it being a victim of it And 3013 01:58:26,270 --> 01:58:29,627 then it's like you want to 3014 01:58:30,731 --> 01:58:31,532 twist what I'm saying while 3015 01:58:31,532 --> 01:58:35,132 right there right in front of 3016 01:58:36,904 --> 01:58:37,572 us Minor attractive persons are 3017 01:58:37,572 --> 01:58:39,972 being honored and glorified 3018 01:58:42,176 --> 01:58:43,440 while I'm being gaslit as if 3019 01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,244 I'm asking you to not accept a 3020 01:58:48,416 --> 01:58:49,283 certain community. 3021 01:58:49,283 --> 01:58:52,883 But I guess why are we 3022 01:58:54,554 --> 01:58:55,356 accepting pedophilia as okay 3023 01:58:55,356 --> 01:58:56,224 when you do have children That 3024 01:58:56,224 --> 01:59:00,762 that is a question I do have I 3025 01:59:00,762 --> 01:59:01,529 don't that doesn't make sense 3026 01:59:01,529 --> 01:59:02,230 to me And I would say that 3027 01:59:02,230 --> 01:59:05,230 competency is in question When 3028 01:59:06,100 --> 01:59:06,801 you can have children and 3029 01:59:06,801 --> 01:59:09,801 promote that your child could 3030 01:59:13,208 --> 01:59:13,875 potentially be abused that that 3031 01:59:13,875 --> 01:59:14,409 doesn't make that make does 3032 01:59:14,409 --> 01:59:15,143 conclude your time. 3033 01:59:15,143 --> 01:59:15,577 >> Our next speaker is Liam mad 3034 01:59:15,577 --> 01:59:17,577 that FEBRUARY? 3035 01:59:21,983 --> 01:59:22,617 Please come forward. 3036 01:59:22,617 --> 01:59:23,284 Good morning City Council. 3037 01:59:23,284 --> 01:59:26,884 I hope I can have your 3038 01:59:28,289 --> 01:59:28,623 attention for at least the next 3039 01:59:28,623 --> 01:59:29,324 minute. 3040 01:59:29,324 --> 01:59:30,580 My name is Liam Adventures. 3041 01:59:30,580 --> 01:59:30,357 I'm a 14 year old from District 3042 01:59:30,357 --> 01:59:32,357 seven. 3043 01:59:34,950 --> 01:59:34,829 This council I believe should 3044 01:59:34,829 --> 01:59:35,463 terminate its contract with Fox 3045 01:59:35,463 --> 01:59:36,164 safety because it has been 3046 01:59:36,164 --> 01:59:36,698 proven time and time again in 3047 01:59:36,698 --> 01:59:39,980 San Diego and across 3048 01:59:40,134 --> 01:59:40,869 the country that we cannot 3049 01:59:40,869 --> 01:59:41,536 govern and effectively Consider 3050 01:59:41,536 --> 01:59:44,536 this Within the first three 3051 01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:46,374 weeks of operation we had 3052 01:59:46,374 --> 01:59:47,750 12,914 unauthorized searches in 3053 01:59:47,750 --> 01:59:49,475 2024 alone as deputy transfer 3054 01:59:51,746 --> 01:59:52,480 data to a federal agency 62 3055 01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:53,148 times that of fear in violation 3056 01:59:53,148 --> 01:59:56,148 of California state law and 3057 01:59:57,385 --> 01:59:58,119 the city's own privacy advisory 3058 01:59:58,119 --> 01:59:58,553 Board recommended shutting this 3059 01:59:58,553 --> 01:59:59,287 program down. 3060 01:59:59,287 --> 01:59:59,521 This council overrode that 5 to 3061 01:59:59,521 --> 02:00:01,521 3. 3062 02:00:03,491 --> 02:00:04,259 Moreover, these data also shows 3063 02:00:04,259 --> 02:00:06,659 that 100 of the 140 aggregated 3064 02:00:07,662 --> 02:00:08,396 database searches run in 2024 3065 02:00:08,396 --> 02:00:08,863 only point 2% actually assisted 3066 02:00:08,863 --> 02:00:10,863 investigations. 3067 02:00:14,603 --> 02:00:15,236 So this is a federal reflection 3068 02:00:15,236 --> 02:00:15,836 of the fatal shortcomings 3069 02:00:15,836 --> 02:00:16,471 within Floc technology. 3070 02:00:16,471 --> 02:00:17,720 El Cajon is being sued by 3071 02:00:17,720 --> 02:00:19,107 the Attorney General for 3072 02:00:19,107 --> 02:00:19,741 showing data illegally. 3073 02:00:19,741 --> 02:00:22,141 Ventura County logged over 3074 02:00:25,847 --> 02:00:26,514 364,000 illegal data searches. 3075 02:00:26,514 --> 02:00:27,182 One misconfigured camera in 3076 02:00:27,182 --> 02:00:27,883 Mountain View exposed it to 3077 02:00:27,883 --> 02:00:30,883 over 250 agencies and in San 3078 02:00:32,687 --> 02:00:33,388 Francisco not so far from us it 3079 02:00:33,388 --> 02:00:33,988 has been searched 1.6 million 3080 02:00:33,988 --> 02:00:34,689 times by people without 3081 02:00:34,689 --> 02:00:38,289 the legal authority to do so. 3082 02:00:38,794 --> 02:00:39,394 And so then we have the same 3083 02:00:39,394 --> 02:00:39,994 failure repeated across 3084 02:00:39,994 --> 02:00:40,594 multiple jurisdictions. 3085 02:00:40,594 --> 02:00:44,794 We have to ask is that a 3086 02:00:44,866 --> 02:00:45,735 failure of implementation? 3087 02:00:45,735 --> 02:00:46,234 I'd say no, it's a failure of 3088 02:00:46,234 --> 02:00:46,935 the architecture. 3089 02:00:46,935 --> 02:00:47,635 If we look at Floc it's built 3090 02:00:47,635 --> 02:00:50,973 to make sure and very easy and 3091 02:00:50,973 --> 02:00:51,807 accountability very difficult. 3092 02:00:51,807 --> 02:00:52,507 And I personally believe that 3093 02:00:52,507 --> 02:00:53,108 no policy this council passes 3094 02:00:53,108 --> 02:00:53,642 can possibly change with 3095 02:00:53,642 --> 02:00:56,420 systems built to do. 3096 02:00:57,179 --> 02:00:57,813 And so this is why reform is 3097 02:00:57,813 --> 02:00:58,547 not the answer because we 3098 02:00:58,547 --> 02:01:01,547 cannot regulate or regulate our 3099 02:01:02,484 --> 02:01:02,784 way around system or structural 3100 02:01:02,784 --> 02:01:03,585 flaw. 3101 02:01:03,585 --> 02:01:04,253 And so that's the only response 3102 02:01:04,253 --> 02:01:04,986 that is proportional to this 3103 02:01:04,986 --> 02:01:08,586 many that has failed many times 3104 02:01:08,824 --> 02:01:09,725 in many places. 3105 02:01:09,725 --> 02:01:10,392 And San Diego does not have to 3106 02:01:10,392 --> 02:01:11,590 choose between public safety 3107 02:01:11,590 --> 02:01:13,495 and governance because of a 3108 02:01:13,495 --> 02:01:14,196 government that sacrifices one 3109 02:01:14,196 --> 02:01:14,730 to protect the other actually 3110 02:01:14,730 --> 02:01:16,730 protects the other. 3111 02:01:18,433 --> 02:01:19,100 >> Thank you for listening. 3112 02:01:19,100 --> 02:01:19,401 >> Good job. 3113 02:01:19,401 --> 02:01:20,269 Thank you. 3114 02:01:20,269 --> 02:01:23,269 Our next speaker is Anthony 3115 02:01:30,879 --> 02:01:31,647 Ralphs. 3116 02:01:31,647 --> 02:01:32,147 >> Where's Waldo and Wilbur? 3117 02:01:32,147 --> 02:01:34,147 One more time. 3118 02:01:36,652 --> 02:01:37,419 She's not here. 3119 02:01:37,419 --> 02:01:38,530 And it gets really frustrating 3120 02:01:38,530 --> 02:01:38,720 to know that we're paying 3121 02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:39,421 council members that aren't 3122 02:01:39,421 --> 02:01:42,191 present when we're wishing to 3123 02:01:42,191 --> 02:01:42,925 address them. 3124 02:01:42,925 --> 02:01:43,425 I don't know if she's on 3125 02:01:43,425 --> 02:01:43,992 official business. 3126 02:01:43,992 --> 02:01:46,392 It hasn't been spoken. 3127 02:01:49,164 --> 02:01:49,898 If she is and again it is 3128 02:01:49,898 --> 02:01:50,633 really frustrating to see empty 3129 02:01:50,633 --> 02:01:53,633 seats when they're getting paid 3130 02:01:54,136 --> 02:01:54,570 very well to not be listening 3131 02:01:54,570 --> 02:01:55,337 to us. 3132 02:01:55,337 --> 02:01:56,105 I brought these three flowers I 3133 02:01:56,105 --> 02:02:00,305 want to give them to the three 3134 02:02:00,643 --> 02:02:01,110 members of city council that 3135 02:02:01,110 --> 02:02:01,744 voted for Flock. 3136 02:02:01,744 --> 02:02:02,411 I know that I'm obviously 3137 02:02:02,411 --> 02:02:05,411 against Flock but the reason 3138 02:02:06,915 --> 02:02:07,583 why I got you these flowers is 3139 02:02:07,583 --> 02:02:08,284 because six months ago seven 3140 02:02:08,284 --> 02:02:08,984 months ago when you initially 3141 02:02:08,984 --> 02:02:12,584 voted for Flock, if you hadn't 3142 02:02:12,755 --> 02:02:13,455 done that I wouldn't have 3143 02:02:13,455 --> 02:02:14,890 started paying attention Seven 3144 02:02:14,890 --> 02:02:14,723 months ago I didn't know a 3145 02:02:14,723 --> 02:02:17,294 single one of your names. 3146 02:02:17,294 --> 02:02:18,270 I didn't know a single one of 3147 02:02:18,270 --> 02:02:18,360 your positions on a plethora of 3148 02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:19,280 issues. 3149 02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:19,728 In that time I've gotten to 3150 02:02:19,728 --> 02:02:22,932 know not only the issues I've 3151 02:02:22,932 --> 02:02:23,632 got to know where you stand on 3152 02:02:23,632 --> 02:02:24,333 many of these issues and I've 3153 02:02:24,333 --> 02:02:24,667 gotten to learn a ton in that 3154 02:02:24,667 --> 02:02:26,667 process. 3155 02:02:29,205 --> 02:02:29,905 So it inadvertently woke a 3156 02:02:29,905 --> 02:02:30,606 sleeping giant in me and it 3157 02:02:30,606 --> 02:02:31,240 inadvertently woke a sleeping 3158 02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:34,840 giant in this city And our 3159 02:02:35,444 --> 02:02:36,780 civic participation is now at 3160 02:02:36,780 --> 02:02:36,378 full throttle or at least 3161 02:02:36,378 --> 02:02:37,790 minus. 3162 02:02:37,790 --> 02:02:40,679 And I'm one of the privileged 3163 02:02:40,983 --> 02:02:41,751 few who can come here on a 3164 02:02:41,751 --> 02:02:42,418 regular basis who can afford to 3165 02:02:42,418 --> 02:02:42,852 park, who can afford to take 3166 02:02:42,852 --> 02:02:43,486 time off work. 3167 02:02:43,486 --> 02:02:46,486 Not everyone can do that. 3168 02:02:46,922 --> 02:02:47,590 And that's why I'm here 3169 02:02:47,590 --> 02:02:47,956 routinely to represent this 3170 02:02:47,956 --> 02:02:48,691 position. 3171 02:02:48,691 --> 02:02:51,691 And even though I fundamentally 3172 02:02:52,661 --> 02:02:53,262 disagree with you all I still 3173 02:02:53,262 --> 02:02:53,995 got love for you all. 3174 02:02:53,995 --> 02:02:54,730 I agree with what Joyce Sonata 3175 02:02:54,730 --> 02:02:58,930 said when she says love to all. 3176 02:02:59,335 --> 02:02:59,968 And so again, even though I 3177 02:02:59,968 --> 02:03:00,703 disagree, I actually came 3178 02:03:00,703 --> 02:03:03,703 yesterday with the intention of 3179 02:03:04,874 --> 02:03:05,574 issuing you an apology because 3180 02:03:05,574 --> 02:03:06,274 seven months ago when I called 3181 02:03:06,274 --> 02:03:06,975 you out for not being present, 3182 02:03:06,975 --> 02:03:07,443 I didn't know that you were on 3183 02:03:07,443 --> 02:03:09,443 paternity leave. 3184 02:03:11,814 --> 02:03:12,681 Like if I. 3185 02:03:12,681 --> 02:03:13,382 I wish that more One Wilbert 3186 02:03:13,382 --> 02:03:14,250 had some kind of an excuse or 3187 02:03:14,250 --> 02:03:17,653 at least would give us a reason 3188 02:03:17,653 --> 02:03:18,354 as to why she's not here right 3189 02:03:18,354 --> 02:03:19,121 now so that we could at least 3190 02:03:19,121 --> 02:03:22,721 know why she isn't present in 3191 02:03:22,792 --> 02:03:23,226 helping us make the decisions 3192 02:03:23,226 --> 02:03:23,826 that we need. 3193 02:03:23,826 --> 02:03:24,493 I also wanted to mention 3194 02:03:24,493 --> 02:03:24,861 the Supreme Court's decision 3195 02:03:24,861 --> 02:03:25,562 yesterday. 3196 02:03:25,562 --> 02:03:29,665 I wanted to read it to you and 3197 02:03:29,665 --> 02:03:30,233 read it to those who were 3198 02:03:30,233 --> 02:03:30,933 present but they ruled 3199 02:03:30,933 --> 02:03:31,567 yesterday that law enforcement 3200 02:03:31,567 --> 02:03:31,901 officials use the Geofence 3201 02:03:31,901 --> 02:03:33,901 warrant. 3202 02:03:34,937 --> 02:03:35,471 >> Think about that. 3203 02:03:35,471 --> 02:03:36,172 Conclude your time. 3204 02:03:36,172 --> 02:03:36,873 Basically they ruled that up. 3205 02:03:36,873 --> 02:03:37,239 That does conclude your time. 3206 02:03:37,239 --> 02:03:39,239 Thank you. 3207 02:03:41,377 --> 02:03:41,978 Tomorrow I've started the five 3208 02:03:41,978 --> 02:03:42,678 minute timer in council 3209 02:03:42,678 --> 02:03:46,278 chambers and we'll now turn to 3210 02:03:46,716 --> 02:03:47,383 virtual content. 3211 02:03:47,383 --> 02:03:47,716 We will begin with Blair 3212 02:03:47,716 --> 02:03:49,716 Beekman. 3213 02:03:53,550 --> 02:03:53,555 Blair please begin. 3214 02:03:53,555 --> 02:03:53,990 >> Hi. 3215 02:03:53,990 --> 02:03:54,691 Blair Beekman. 3216 02:03:54,691 --> 02:03:57,691 Thanks for the meeting today. 3217 02:03:58,928 --> 02:03:59,228 Thanks a lot for the words of 3218 02:03:59,228 --> 02:03:59,896 Tony. 3219 02:03:59,896 --> 02:04:00,595 In the past year our council 3220 02:04:00,595 --> 02:04:02,995 presidents have really learned 3221 02:04:06,536 --> 02:04:07,202 the art form of getting out of 3222 02:04:07,202 --> 02:04:07,704 meetings and especially with 3223 02:04:07,704 --> 02:04:08,438 council PRESIDENT. 3224 02:04:08,438 --> 02:04:11,241 But we'll begin to campaign all 3225 02:04:11,241 --> 02:04:11,741 respect for her campaign that I 3226 02:04:11,741 --> 02:04:12,510 hope he can win. 3227 02:04:12,510 --> 02:04:16,110 I think he would be better 3228 02:04:17,780 --> 02:04:18,414 served by staying at council 3229 02:04:18,414 --> 02:04:19,115 meetings instead of always 3230 02:04:19,115 --> 02:04:19,482 leaving now and per committee 3231 02:04:19,482 --> 02:04:21,482 meetings. 3232 02:04:22,752 --> 02:04:23,519 I think he would have a better 3233 02:04:23,519 --> 02:04:24,200 campaign if he was at her 3234 02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:24,654 regular meetings. 3235 02:04:24,654 --> 02:04:24,954 We would respect her a lot 3236 02:04:24,954 --> 02:04:26,954 more. 3237 02:04:29,259 --> 02:04:29,658 I'm starting to disrespect what 3238 02:04:29,658 --> 02:04:30,293 she's doing. 3239 02:04:30,293 --> 02:04:30,894 It's becoming aggravating. 3240 02:04:30,894 --> 02:04:33,894 It was an important day. 3241 02:04:35,298 --> 02:04:35,665 She was supposed to be there So 3242 02:04:35,665 --> 02:04:36,398 I'm upset. 3243 02:04:36,398 --> 02:04:37,660 We've got to start returning to 3244 02:04:37,660 --> 02:04:39,466 meetings more regularly And 3245 02:04:41,104 --> 02:04:41,971 same with our other council. 3246 02:04:41,971 --> 02:04:46,171 I also and thanks as always for 3247 02:04:46,776 --> 02:04:47,760 the words of Anthony by the way 3248 02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:47,743 . 3249 02:04:47,743 --> 02:04:48,144 I wanted to comment on 3250 02:04:48,144 --> 02:04:50,144 the comment. 3251 02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:53,850 The idea is you know stormwater 3252 02:04:53,850 --> 02:04:54,516 issues we had worries you know 3253 02:04:54,516 --> 02:04:58,116 the past few years so we 3254 02:04:59,422 --> 02:05:00,155 couldn't talk more openly and 3255 02:05:00,155 --> 02:05:00,623 clearly we could have It's been 3256 02:05:00,623 --> 02:05:01,357 a few years now. 3257 02:05:01,357 --> 02:05:04,357 Can we please stop using 3258 02:05:04,761 --> 02:05:05,328 the euphemisms sports utility 3259 02:05:05,328 --> 02:05:05,895 lighting to talk about 3260 02:05:05,895 --> 02:05:06,630 the depth of what our 3261 02:05:06,630 --> 02:05:09,300 surveillance technology and our 3262 02:05:11,768 --> 02:05:12,234 parks and rec center that's 3263 02:05:12,234 --> 02:05:12,969 actually doing? 3264 02:05:12,969 --> 02:05:16,673 Can we be more specific in that 3265 02:05:16,673 --> 02:05:17,207 instead of it's a euphemism you 3266 02:05:17,207 --> 02:05:17,774 guys are using? 3267 02:05:17,774 --> 02:05:18,341 Let's really move past 3268 02:05:18,341 --> 02:05:20,341 the euphemism please. 3269 02:05:22,412 --> 02:05:22,912 It's safe It please trust it. 3270 02:05:22,912 --> 02:05:23,580 Don't be fearful. 3271 02:05:23,580 --> 02:05:25,980 Quick conversation is good. 3272 02:05:29,953 --> 02:05:30,719 There's also concepts you know 3273 02:05:30,719 --> 02:05:34,524 City of Oakland has a love life 3274 02:05:34,524 --> 02:05:35,392 philosophy that I hope we can 3275 02:05:35,392 --> 02:05:36,920 help that they don't want to do 3276 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:36,959 harm in their decision making. 3277 02:05:36,959 --> 02:05:41,665 I think you can help a lot And 3278 02:05:41,665 --> 02:05:45,865 the comment on your use in real 3279 02:05:47,604 --> 02:05:48,338 time Police are confused. 3280 02:05:48,338 --> 02:05:49,500 They don't quite know the rules 3281 02:05:49,500 --> 02:05:52,576 of the road in when they can 3282 02:05:52,576 --> 02:05:53,443 and can't talk about their data 3283 02:05:53,443 --> 02:05:54,144 tech and we have to learn to 3284 02:05:54,144 --> 02:05:54,778 have that open conversation so 3285 02:05:54,778 --> 02:05:58,378 we can That's what I keep 3286 02:05:58,515 --> 02:05:59,383 trying to say at this time. 3287 02:05:59,383 --> 02:06:00,116 >> We have to have an open 3288 02:06:00,116 --> 02:06:00,384 conversation not a closed thank 3289 02:06:00,384 --> 02:06:02,384 you. 3290 02:06:05,187 --> 02:06:05,856 That does conclude your time. 3291 02:06:05,856 --> 02:06:06,155 Your next speaker is that 3292 02:06:06,155 --> 02:06:08,155 could. 3293 02:06:16,133 --> 02:06:16,700 Please begin. 3294 02:06:16,700 --> 02:06:17,534 >> Good morning. 3295 02:06:17,534 --> 02:06:18,402 My name is Becky Brock and I'm 3296 02:06:18,402 --> 02:06:22,200 here today to ask for greater 3297 02:06:22,105 --> 02:06:22,673 transfer and accountability in 3298 02:06:22,673 --> 02:06:23,207 San Diego's marijuana 3299 02:06:23,207 --> 02:06:25,207 permitting program. 3300 02:06:26,510 --> 02:06:27,144 Seven years ago, Rancho 3301 02:06:27,144 --> 02:06:27,778 Bernardo residents spent a 3302 02:06:27,778 --> 02:06:28,378 significant amount of time 3303 02:06:28,378 --> 02:06:30,378 participating in public 3304 02:06:33,183 --> 02:06:33,750 processes But our neighborhood 3305 02:06:33,750 --> 02:06:34,485 pot shop was approved. 3306 02:06:34,485 --> 02:06:36,885 We attended hearings, submitted 3307 02:06:38,288 --> 02:06:38,889 comments and carefully 3308 02:06:38,889 --> 02:06:39,456 evaluated the applicant. 3309 02:06:39,456 --> 02:06:42,456 But today if you visit 3310 02:06:44,828 --> 02:06:45,529 the city's website, the permit 3311 02:06:45,529 --> 02:06:47,929 still identifies the original 3312 02:06:49,867 --> 02:06:50,701 permit holder not the business 3313 02:06:50,701 --> 02:06:51,101 that is now actually holding 3314 02:06:51,101 --> 02:06:51,769 the permit. 3315 02:06:51,769 --> 02:06:54,169 We stumbled across industry 3316 02:06:57,107 --> 02:06:57,741 publications that reported that 3317 02:06:57,741 --> 02:07:00,141 the House has acquired 12 3318 02:07:02,313 --> 02:07:03,130 existing pot shop permits in 3319 02:07:03,130 --> 02:07:03,714 San Diego yet they're not 3320 02:07:03,714 --> 02:07:06,714 updated on the city's website. 3321 02:07:08,117 --> 02:07:08,886 That raises a simple question 3322 02:07:08,886 --> 02:07:09,486 Why is it easier to learn who 3323 02:07:09,486 --> 02:07:11,886 controls the city issued 3324 02:07:14,291 --> 02:07:14,992 marijuana permit from an 3325 02:07:14,992 --> 02:07:15,593 industry publication than from 3326 02:07:15,593 --> 02:07:17,993 the city's own website? 3327 02:07:20,464 --> 02:07:21,232 If owner ownership changes, if 3328 02:07:21,232 --> 02:07:21,932 a permit is transferred or if a 3329 02:07:21,932 --> 02:07:22,633 new company takes control of a 3330 02:07:22,633 --> 02:07:25,633 pot show, the public shouldn't 3331 02:07:26,169 --> 02:07:26,770 have to search through 3332 02:07:26,770 --> 02:07:27,505 corporate records, state 3333 02:07:27,505 --> 02:07:29,905 databases or trade publications 3334 02:07:31,609 --> 02:07:32,242 to find that information. 3335 02:07:32,242 --> 02:07:32,943 The community's interest 3336 02:07:32,943 --> 02:07:33,310 doesn't end when the permit is 3337 02:07:33,310 --> 02:07:35,310 approved. 3338 02:07:38,382 --> 02:07:39,830 In many ways that's when 3339 02:07:39,830 --> 02:07:39,449 transparency becomes even more 3340 02:07:39,449 --> 02:07:40,151 important. 3341 02:07:40,151 --> 02:07:44,210 So I urge the city to maintain 3342 02:07:44,210 --> 02:07:44,621 an up to date publicly 3343 02:07:44,621 --> 02:07:45,256 accessible database that 3344 02:07:45,256 --> 02:07:47,256 identifies current permit 3345 02:07:50,895 --> 02:07:51,562 holders and current operators. 3346 02:07:51,562 --> 02:07:53,962 Ownership changes and permit 3347 02:07:55,866 --> 02:07:56,300 transfers for every shop in 3348 02:07:56,300 --> 02:07:57,100 the region. 3349 02:07:57,100 --> 02:07:57,702 Residents deserve to know who 3350 02:07:57,702 --> 02:07:58,269 is operating these businesses 3351 02:07:58,269 --> 02:08:00,669 throughout the life of 3352 02:08:02,206 --> 02:08:02,673 the permit not just on the day 3353 02:08:02,673 --> 02:08:03,374 it was approved. 3354 02:08:03,374 --> 02:08:05,774 Public participation should be 3355 02:08:08,111 --> 02:08:08,412 matched by public transparency 3356 02:08:08,412 --> 02:08:08,913 . 3357 02:08:08,913 --> 02:08:09,280 >> Thank you. 3358 02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:10,214 Thank you. 3359 02:08:10,214 --> 02:08:13,784 Our next speaker is a caller 3360 02:08:13,784 --> 02:08:14,117 with the last four digits 3361 02:08:14,117 --> 02:08:16,117 737234. 3362 02:08:19,924 --> 02:08:21,924 Please begin. 3363 02:08:26,230 --> 02:08:26,564 >> >> Good afternoon, City 3364 02:08:26,564 --> 02:08:27,198 Council. 3365 02:08:27,198 --> 02:08:27,865 My name is Kevin Skilling. 3366 02:08:27,865 --> 02:08:30,865 I'm a parent public educator 3367 02:08:31,302 --> 02:08:31,802 and I am a planning group 3368 02:08:31,802 --> 02:08:32,503 member as well. 3369 02:08:32,503 --> 02:08:33,137 When reviewing air quality in 3370 02:08:33,137 --> 02:08:33,804 the city of San Diego and 3371 02:08:33,804 --> 02:08:36,804 the role of tobacco related 3372 02:08:38,176 --> 02:08:38,710 disease and death, it is very 3373 02:08:38,710 --> 02:08:39,110 important to address 3374 02:08:39,110 --> 02:08:39,777 disparities. 3375 02:08:39,777 --> 02:08:42,177 The overall conclusion that 3376 02:08:43,915 --> 02:08:44,615 tobacco takes a higher toll on 3377 02:08:44,615 --> 02:08:47,615 less advantaged people is not 3378 02:08:49,530 --> 02:08:49,620 new but needs to be carefully 3379 02:08:49,620 --> 02:08:50,287 regarded when policies 3380 02:08:50,287 --> 02:08:50,755 regarding smoking and vaping 3381 02:08:50,755 --> 02:08:51,389 are considered. 3382 02:08:51,389 --> 02:08:53,789 Here in California stained 3383 02:08:56,127 --> 02:08:56,794 glass Faculty member at 3384 02:08:56,794 --> 02:08:59,194 the University of California 3385 02:09:02,399 --> 02:09:03,670 San Francisco uc ucsf School of 3386 02:09:03,670 --> 02:09:03,769 Medicine and the Division of 3387 02:09:03,769 --> 02:09:06,769 Cardiology stated and I quote 3388 02:09:07,438 --> 02:09:08,173 It's important to recognize 3389 02:09:08,173 --> 02:09:08,906 the growing role of cannabis in 3390 02:09:08,906 --> 02:09:09,474 undermining tobacco control and 3391 02:09:09,474 --> 02:09:11,474 contributing to health 3392 02:09:14,412 --> 02:09:15,113 disparities especially given 3393 02:09:15,113 --> 02:09:18,113 the prevalence of tobacco and 3394 02:09:19,917 --> 02:09:20,618 cannabis use in youth and young 3395 02:09:20,618 --> 02:09:21,185 adults and the socio economic 3396 02:09:21,185 --> 02:09:23,185 and health disparities 3397 02:09:26,390 --> 02:09:27,240 associated with chronic or 3398 02:09:27,240 --> 02:09:27,358 daily use of marijuana or 3399 02:09:27,358 --> 02:09:29,358 tobacco. 3400 02:09:31,930 --> 02:09:32,563 Tobacco use which is of grave 3401 02:09:32,563 --> 02:09:34,963 concern for public health 3402 02:09:36,868 --> 02:09:37,735 educators who work on behalf of 3403 02:09:37,735 --> 02:09:38,703 18 to 30 year olds and those of 3404 02:09:38,703 --> 02:09:42,903 us who are parent group of that 3405 02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:43,742 specific age group. 3406 02:09:43,742 --> 02:09:44,409 Protecting all city residents 3407 02:09:44,409 --> 02:09:46,809 from exposure to secondhand 3408 02:09:48,279 --> 02:09:49,130 tobacco and cannabis smoke in 3409 02:09:49,130 --> 02:09:49,580 all indoor and outdoor settings 3410 02:09:49,580 --> 02:09:51,980 should be a priority. 3411 02:09:54,653 --> 02:09:55,353 Reducing the availability and 3412 02:09:55,353 --> 02:09:55,987 advertising related to tobacco 3413 02:09:55,987 --> 02:09:58,987 and marijuana should be a 3414 02:10:00,625 --> 02:10:01,426 priority of our county and 3415 02:10:01,426 --> 02:10:04,426 summer 2026 would be the best 3416 02:10:07,165 --> 02:10:07,866 time for our city county to 3417 02:10:07,866 --> 02:10:10,866 consider an emergency ban of 3418 02:10:12,404 --> 02:10:13,710 marijuana and tobacco smoking 3419 02:10:13,710 --> 02:10:13,738 and vaping in public spaces. 3420 02:10:13,738 --> 02:10:16,738 Thank you for hearing my 3421 02:10:18,743 --> 02:10:19,244 concerns This afternoon. 3422 02:10:19,244 --> 02:10:19,911 >> Thank you. 3423 02:10:19,911 --> 02:10:20,412 Please note the five minute 3424 02:10:20,412 --> 02:10:22,812 timer did go off. 3425 02:10:24,382 --> 02:10:24,983 We have seven speakers 3426 02:10:24,983 --> 02:10:25,650 remaining in the queue. 3427 02:10:25,650 --> 02:10:25,950 No further speakers will be 3428 02:10:25,950 --> 02:10:26,651 taken. 3429 02:10:26,651 --> 02:10:29,510 Kathleen Lippert please begin 3430 02:10:32,424 --> 02:10:33,191 your comments. 3431 02:10:33,191 --> 02:10:33,959 Thank you for letting me speak. 3432 02:10:33,959 --> 02:10:34,259 I'd like to address the housing 3433 02:10:34,259 --> 02:10:36,259 issue. 3434 02:10:38,763 --> 02:10:39,431 The need for affordable housing 3435 02:10:39,431 --> 02:10:40,980 is great but housing quickly 3436 02:10:40,980 --> 02:10:42,498 becomes unaffordable when a 3437 02:10:44,903 --> 02:10:45,670 city continues to add fee after 3438 02:10:45,670 --> 02:10:46,271 fee d focus is only on one 3439 02:10:46,271 --> 02:10:48,671 side The tenant landlord 3440 02:10:50,509 --> 02:10:51,420 equation protections solely 3441 02:10:51,420 --> 02:10:53,420 focused on tenants. 3442 02:10:57,490 --> 02:11:00,490 MS. The expense that landlords 3443 02:11:03,540 --> 02:11:03,422 are expenses are created for 3444 02:11:03,422 --> 02:11:04,122 landlords. 3445 02:11:04,122 --> 02:11:07,122 The city's failure to analyze 3446 02:11:08,293 --> 02:11:09,160 both benefits and risks has led 3447 02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:09,828 to higher cost of housing and a 3448 02:11:09,828 --> 02:11:10,362 failure to protect those who 3449 02:11:10,362 --> 02:11:12,362 deserve protection. 3450 02:11:14,366 --> 02:11:15,100 Landlords cost for maintenance, 3451 02:11:15,100 --> 02:11:17,100 upkeep, habitability standards, 3452 02:11:21,306 --> 02:11:21,974 inflation can lead to landlords 3453 02:11:21,974 --> 02:11:24,374 failing to properly maintain 3454 02:11:26,245 --> 02:11:26,979 their property and the cost of 3455 02:11:26,979 --> 02:11:27,678 remediating units where smoking 3456 02:11:27,678 --> 02:11:31,278 or vaping has taken place adds 3457 02:11:33,185 --> 02:11:33,918 an additional layer of costs as 3458 02:11:33,918 --> 02:11:37,518 well as the health impacts that 3459 02:11:38,490 --> 02:11:39,258 are caused by that. 3460 02:11:39,258 --> 02:11:40,250 Anthony Infection rules do not 3461 02:11:40,250 --> 02:11:43,625 allow for rent or landlords to 3462 02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:44,429 evict problematic nuisance 3463 02:11:44,429 --> 02:11:45,164 tenants. 3464 02:11:45,164 --> 02:11:48,164 The eviction process is lengthy 3465 02:11:50,903 --> 02:11:51,637 and costly and rent caps do not 3466 02:11:51,637 --> 02:11:54,637 allow landlords to adjust rents 3467 02:11:56,508 --> 02:11:57,209 in response to market changes. 3468 02:11:57,209 --> 02:11:57,876 Screening restrictions that do 3469 02:11:57,876 --> 02:11:58,577 not allow proper vetting of 3470 02:11:58,577 --> 02:12:01,577 potential tenants can lead to 3471 02:12:02,815 --> 02:12:03,582 tenants with a history of 3472 02:12:03,582 --> 02:12:07,182 failing to pay their rent or 3473 02:12:08,887 --> 02:12:09,488 previously damaged property and 3474 02:12:09,488 --> 02:12:11,888 tenants who MAY exploit 3475 02:12:14,660 --> 02:12:15,394 friendly tenant regulations. 3476 02:12:15,394 --> 02:12:16,950 The cost of forcing landlords 3477 02:12:16,950 --> 02:12:19,950 to accept tenants who cannot 3478 02:12:20,166 --> 02:12:20,866 afford the rent or forcing 3479 02:12:20,866 --> 02:12:21,533 landlords to accept government 3480 02:12:21,533 --> 02:12:24,533 housing vouchers can lead to 3481 02:12:26,739 --> 02:12:27,173 costs that are passed on to 3482 02:12:27,173 --> 02:12:27,772 other tenants. 3483 02:12:27,772 --> 02:12:30,172 A healthy rental market 3484 02:12:32,770 --> 02:12:32,811 recognizes there are two 3485 02:12:32,811 --> 02:12:33,145 entities involved in the rental 3486 02:12:33,145 --> 02:12:35,145 market. 3487 02:12:38,317 --> 02:12:38,951 Renters and landlords can 3488 02:12:38,951 --> 02:12:39,618 adjust Include your time. 3489 02:12:39,618 --> 02:12:42,618 Our next speaker is Madison. 3490 02:12:43,823 --> 02:12:44,590 Please begin. 3491 02:12:44,590 --> 02:12:44,923 >> I thank you City Council 3492 02:12:44,923 --> 02:12:46,923 members. 3493 02:12:48,829 --> 02:12:49,561 As a mother of three children I 3494 02:12:49,561 --> 02:12:50,229 often think about how much care 3495 02:12:50,229 --> 02:12:53,229 goes into protecting a baby 3496 02:12:54,399 --> 02:12:54,700 before that child is even born 3497 02:12:54,700 --> 02:12:55,334 . 3498 02:12:55,334 --> 02:12:55,968 Pregnant women are told to 3499 02:12:55,968 --> 02:12:58,968 watch what they eat, what 3500 02:13:00,105 --> 02:13:00,806 medications they take and what 3501 02:13:00,806 --> 02:13:01,474 substances they avoid because 3502 02:13:01,474 --> 02:13:02,207 those early months matter So 3503 02:13:02,207 --> 02:13:05,207 much for a child's development. 3504 02:13:06,345 --> 02:13:07,450 That's why I think it's 3505 02:13:07,450 --> 02:13:07,747 important to pay attention to 3506 02:13:07,747 --> 02:13:08,381 what the medical community is 3507 02:13:08,381 --> 02:13:08,880 saying about cannabis use 3508 02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:10,880 during pregnancy. 3509 02:13:12,180 --> 02:13:12,752 The American College of 3510 02:13:12,752 --> 02:13:13,452 Obstetricians and Gynecologists 3511 02:13:13,452 --> 02:13:14,520 recently updated its clinical 3512 02:13:14,520 --> 02:13:16,452 guidance and stated that 3513 02:13:18,190 --> 02:13:18,791 cannabis use during pregnancy 3514 02:13:18,791 --> 02:13:19,492 has been associated with 3515 02:13:19,492 --> 02:13:21,892 serious risks and spontaneous 3516 02:13:23,896 --> 02:13:24,497 preterm birth, low birth weight 3517 02:13:24,497 --> 02:13:25,131 and developmental delay. 3518 02:13:25,131 --> 02:13:27,531 As marijuana becomes more 3519 02:13:30,569 --> 02:13:31,270 socially accepted and easier to 3520 02:13:31,270 --> 02:13:31,938 access, many women MAY assume 3521 02:13:31,938 --> 02:13:35,538 it is harmless because it is 3522 02:13:36,175 --> 02:13:36,943 often described as natural or 3523 02:13:36,943 --> 02:13:37,512 even promoted as a way to help 3524 02:13:37,512 --> 02:13:38,243 with stress or nausea. 3525 02:13:38,243 --> 02:13:41,843 But doctors are very clear that 3526 02:13:42,150 --> 02:13:42,681 there are no medical 3527 02:13:42,681 --> 02:13:43,316 indications for cannabis use 3528 02:13:43,316 --> 02:13:43,983 during pregnancy or during 3529 02:13:43,983 --> 02:13:46,983 the postpartum period or in 3530 02:13:48,154 --> 02:13:48,855 fact at all. 3531 02:13:48,855 --> 02:13:49,522 Thc crosses the placenta 3532 02:13:49,522 --> 02:13:52,522 meaning a developing baby is 3533 02:13:54,159 --> 02:13:54,861 exposed during critical stages 3534 02:13:54,861 --> 02:13:55,595 of growth when the brain and 3535 02:13:55,595 --> 02:13:57,995 body are especially vulnerable. 3536 02:14:00,700 --> 02:14:01,334 Mothers deserve honest 3537 02:14:01,334 --> 02:14:02,680 information to make these 3538 02:14:02,680 --> 02:14:02,601 decisions for their baby that's 3539 02:14:02,601 --> 02:14:04,601 growing inside them. 3540 02:14:06,172 --> 02:14:06,873 And if we are serious about 3541 02:14:06,873 --> 02:14:07,507 protecting maternal and child 3542 02:14:07,507 --> 02:14:08,141 health then public policy 3543 02:14:08,141 --> 02:14:10,541 should reflect the medical 3544 02:14:12,412 --> 02:14:13,113 evidence showing prenatal 3545 02:14:13,113 --> 02:14:13,846 cannabis use is dangerous and 3546 02:14:13,846 --> 02:14:15,415 not go along with the marketing 3547 02:14:15,415 --> 02:14:18,415 narrative that says it's not. 3548 02:14:21,521 --> 02:14:22,210 Thank you. 3549 02:14:22,210 --> 02:14:22,688 >> Thank you. 3550 02:14:22,688 --> 02:14:25,688 Our next speaker is Hector. 3551 02:14:28,270 --> 02:14:28,595 Please begin. 3552 02:14:28,595 --> 02:14:29,229 >> All right. 3553 02:14:29,229 --> 02:14:29,929 The immigration front has 3554 02:14:29,929 --> 02:14:32,929 stepped forward on the Supreme 3555 02:14:33,799 --> 02:14:34,534 Court just ruled temporary 3556 02:14:34,534 --> 02:14:37,534 legal status has been revoked 3557 02:14:38,304 --> 02:14:39,720 for a million people. 3558 02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:42,672 So anybody that works for this 3559 02:14:44,770 --> 02:14:44,811 city who has temporary legal 3560 02:14:44,811 --> 02:14:45,245 status you just got fired. 3561 02:14:45,245 --> 02:14:47,245 Your history. 3562 02:14:49,949 --> 02:14:50,682 You don't want the city aiding 3563 02:14:50,682 --> 02:14:53,682 and abetting them with paydays. 3564 02:14:56,389 --> 02:14:57,570 So talk to city Attorney that's 3565 02:14:57,570 --> 02:15:00,570 aiding and abetting the guys 3566 02:15:01,695 --> 02:15:02,295 with temporary legal service as 3567 02:15:02,295 --> 02:15:03,630 status has been revoked. 3568 02:15:03,630 --> 02:15:06,630 You're here $1,000 a day fine 3569 02:15:07,767 --> 02:15:08,735 to be here illegally. 3570 02:15:08,735 --> 02:15:09,469 So if you have any money in 3571 02:15:09,469 --> 02:15:13,669 the bank you might want to take 3572 02:15:14,307 --> 02:15:15,800 it out before Trump just brings 3573 02:15:15,800 --> 02:15:15,875 on ice with the big teeth and 3574 02:15:15,875 --> 02:15:19,946 then you can to play that game 3575 02:15:19,946 --> 02:15:20,614 No more. 3576 02:15:20,614 --> 02:15:21,314 Even though Somali guys have 3577 02:15:21,314 --> 02:15:23,714 temporary legal status, there 3578 02:15:26,486 --> 02:15:26,853 has to be then get back on 3579 02:15:26,853 --> 02:15:27,654 the boat. 3580 02:15:27,654 --> 02:15:31,254 They don't hold man for you 3581 02:15:31,257 --> 02:15:32,250 Suffer too much. 3582 02:15:32,250 --> 02:15:35,250 Save your suffering for Somalia 3583 02:15:37,497 --> 02:15:38,198 and the homelands like Haiti 3584 02:15:38,198 --> 02:15:41,198 and all other great countries. 3585 02:15:42,969 --> 02:15:43,602 Please go back to your great 3586 02:15:43,602 --> 02:15:43,937 country because The Iceman 3587 02:15:43,937 --> 02:15:45,937 cometh. 3588 02:15:48,442 --> 02:15:49,142 We got to change the song 3589 02:15:49,142 --> 02:15:53,342 the theme song in San Diego to 3590 02:15:53,346 --> 02:15:54,480 Ice Ice Baby. 3591 02:15:54,480 --> 02:15:54,880 And I love those cameras. 3592 02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:59,800 They just put a bunch more down 3593 02:15:59,286 --> 02:15:59,986 by Fashion Valley. 3594 02:15:59,986 --> 02:16:00,687 The brand new ones they 3595 02:16:00,687 --> 02:16:00,954 installed about 20 of them so 3596 02:16:00,954 --> 02:16:02,954 far. 3597 02:16:04,758 --> 02:16:05,491 If you're in fashion Valley you 3598 02:16:05,491 --> 02:16:06,158 might want to go somewhere else 3599 02:16:06,158 --> 02:16:06,859 But there's a lot of cameras 3600 02:16:06,859 --> 02:16:09,859 just brand new ones on 3601 02:16:10,931 --> 02:16:11,798 the falls. 3602 02:16:11,798 --> 02:16:12,532 They look state of the art So I 3603 02:16:12,532 --> 02:16:15,532 don't know who's watching those 3604 02:16:16,169 --> 02:16:16,703 cameras but you do and watch 3605 02:16:16,703 --> 02:16:19,703 just the way it is. 3606 02:16:21,742 --> 02:16:22,275 The mass rapid deportations are 3607 02:16:22,275 --> 02:16:22,943 going to get better. 3608 02:16:22,943 --> 02:16:23,410 There's other things that's 3609 02:16:23,410 --> 02:16:25,410 going to happen. 3610 02:16:26,847 --> 02:16:27,548 Trump's got to get the all 3611 02:16:27,548 --> 02:16:28,415 the computerized programs and 3612 02:16:28,415 --> 02:16:32,286 it's going to be pretty easy Do 3613 02:16:32,286 --> 02:16:35,286 that does conclude your time. 3614 02:16:35,956 --> 02:16:36,590 Our next speaker is caller with 3615 02:16:36,590 --> 02:16:38,990 the last four digits 8700 3616 02:16:41,361 --> 02:16:43,361 please begin. 3617 02:16:47,568 --> 02:16:50,568 >> >> Joy of senator all city 3618 02:16:52,473 --> 02:16:53,173 needs a new vision that fosters 3619 02:16:53,173 --> 02:16:56,173 all components of our budget. 3620 02:16:58,145 --> 02:17:02,345 Dear public all of you each of 3621 02:17:02,583 --> 02:17:03,250 you are at the very top of 3622 02:17:03,250 --> 02:17:05,650 the city organization chart. 3623 02:17:08,522 --> 02:17:09,890 There has been a lot of 3624 02:17:09,890 --> 02:17:09,823 passionate fighting in 3625 02:17:09,823 --> 02:17:13,423 the chambers lately Fight for a 3626 02:17:14,561 --> 02:17:18,161 budget, fight for a trash free 3627 02:17:19,633 --> 02:17:20,334 fight for a parking fee fight 3628 02:17:20,334 --> 02:17:20,701 against hate crimes and lots 3629 02:17:20,701 --> 02:17:22,701 lots more. 3630 02:17:24,604 --> 02:17:24,939 Yet in my opinion something is 3631 02:17:24,939 --> 02:17:25,772 missing. 3632 02:17:25,772 --> 02:17:29,372 We need a new vision for 3633 02:17:29,410 --> 02:17:30,144 the city of San Diego. 3634 02:17:30,144 --> 02:17:33,744 A noble vision for the great 3635 02:17:35,115 --> 02:17:35,983 city We want to become. 3636 02:17:35,983 --> 02:17:39,583 This would be the kickstart we 3637 02:17:40,320 --> 02:17:40,721 need for the boldness we need 3638 02:17:40,721 --> 02:17:42,721 to unravel. 3639 02:17:45,793 --> 02:17:49,863 And so what is not working at 3640 02:17:49,863 --> 02:17:50,264 our city structure will core 3641 02:17:50,264 --> 02:17:52,264 your public. 3642 02:17:55,690 --> 02:17:55,770 All of you are at the very top 3643 02:17:55,770 --> 02:17:56,880 of our city's organization 3644 02:17:56,880 --> 02:17:58,880 chart. 3645 02:18:00,875 --> 02:18:01,742 Let's work together as one to 3646 02:18:01,742 --> 02:18:05,245 create a new more noble Excuse 3647 02:18:05,245 --> 02:18:06,130 me. 3648 02:18:06,130 --> 02:18:09,613 Let's work together as one to 3649 02:18:11,118 --> 02:18:11,652 create a new noble vision for 3650 02:18:11,652 --> 02:18:13,652 our beautiful city. 3651 02:18:15,656 --> 02:18:16,356 Now I love you all and I want 3652 02:18:16,356 --> 02:18:19,956 to finish with wishing all of 3653 02:18:20,794 --> 02:18:21,395 you a really wonderful 4th of 3654 02:18:21,395 --> 02:18:22,290 JULY legislative recess. 3655 02:18:22,290 --> 02:18:22,396 See you when you get back. 3656 02:18:22,396 --> 02:18:24,396 Thank you. 3657 02:18:24,966 --> 02:18:28,566 And I will speak to fast 3658 02:18:28,936 --> 02:18:29,402 spreading love to all. 3659 02:18:29,402 --> 02:18:30,171 Thank you. 3660 02:18:30,171 --> 02:18:33,171 Our next speaker in Casco 3661 02:18:38,379 --> 02:18:38,980 please begin. 3662 02:18:38,980 --> 02:18:39,714 Ernie Casco once again. 3663 02:18:39,714 --> 02:18:43,314 What is the main issue at 3664 02:18:43,684 --> 02:18:44,484 Torrey Pines Glider Port? 3665 02:18:44,484 --> 02:18:45,219 We the people are being forced 3666 02:18:45,219 --> 02:18:48,219 to buy insurance now required 3667 02:18:48,356 --> 02:18:49,230 by law and an access pass 3668 02:18:49,230 --> 02:18:52,230 waiver to use public park. 3669 02:18:53,828 --> 02:18:54,462 This is insurance fraud and 3670 02:18:54,462 --> 02:18:55,162 misappropriation of public 3671 02:18:55,162 --> 02:18:58,990 funds and going into private 3672 02:18:58,990 --> 02:18:58,800 accounts. 3673 02:18:58,800 --> 02:18:59,501 A racketeering operation which 3674 02:18:59,501 --> 02:19:01,901 demands full transparency city 3675 02:19:02,937 --> 02:19:03,603 audit that would end 3676 02:19:03,603 --> 02:19:04,272 the corruption within Torrey 3677 02:19:04,272 --> 02:19:06,672 Pines Great Port Management. 3678 02:19:07,942 --> 02:19:08,509 City Council has a proven 3679 02:19:08,509 --> 02:19:09,177 solution The San Diego 3680 02:19:09,177 --> 02:19:11,177 recreational waiver secures 3681 02:19:12,814 --> 02:19:13,448 city liabilities, isolates 3682 02:19:13,448 --> 02:19:14,810 safety concerns and stops 3683 02:19:14,810 --> 02:19:16,481 the illegal collection of 3684 02:19:17,885 --> 02:19:18,453 public funding and the private 3685 02:19:18,453 --> 02:19:19,153 accounts By separating 3686 02:19:19,153 --> 02:19:22,153 the business from normal free 3687 02:19:23,424 --> 02:19:24,910 public access by allowing 3688 02:19:24,910 --> 02:19:24,759 the business to stay and pay 3689 02:19:24,759 --> 02:19:25,426 their own bills are failing 3690 02:19:25,426 --> 02:19:28,362 like every other business in 3691 02:19:28,362 --> 02:19:29,970 public parks and lands. 3692 02:19:29,970 --> 02:19:32,567 There are laws to protect us. 3693 02:19:32,567 --> 02:19:34,567 Who is liable? 3694 02:19:37,500 --> 02:19:37,705 The City Council is responsible 3695 02:19:37,705 --> 02:19:38,373 to provide police reports that 3696 02:19:38,373 --> 02:19:40,773 normally provide justice for 3697 02:19:42,410 --> 02:19:43,440 the victims and witnesses who 3698 02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:43,443 have been damaged by your 3699 02:19:43,443 --> 02:19:44,145 leaseholder. 3700 02:19:44,145 --> 02:19:47,145 There are common business laws 3701 02:19:47,682 --> 02:19:48,349 to protect the public on how 3702 02:19:48,349 --> 02:19:48,950 businesses should be run in 3703 02:19:48,950 --> 02:19:51,350 public parks and lands. 3704 02:19:52,353 --> 02:19:52,887 You need to apply those rules 3705 02:19:52,887 --> 02:19:53,520 to your leaseholder. 3706 02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:55,920 The San Diego recreational 3707 02:19:57,124 --> 02:19:57,659 waiver is a win for City 3708 02:19:57,659 --> 02:19:58,393 council liabilities. 3709 02:19:58,393 --> 02:20:01,393 Using common contract laws that 3710 02:20:01,629 --> 02:20:02,297 legally restores 3711 02:20:02,297 --> 02:20:02,964 the recreational rights and 3712 02:20:02,964 --> 02:20:05,964 freedoms for years to come. 3713 02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:07,369 Thank you, Ernie Casco. 3714 02:20:07,369 --> 02:20:10,969 It's time for you to stop 3715 02:20:11,439 --> 02:20:12,700 the crime in your own office or 3716 02:20:12,700 --> 02:20:12,874 step out of office. 3717 02:20:12,874 --> 02:20:15,274 >> Representing San Diego Hoya 3718 02:20:16,377 --> 02:20:18,377 residents. 3719 02:20:19,140 --> 02:20:19,314 >> >> Our next speaker is John 3720 02:20:19,314 --> 02:20:21,314 Stump. 3721 02:20:24,319 --> 02:20:24,786 >> Please begin. 3722 02:20:24,786 --> 02:20:26,786 >> Thank you. 3723 02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:29,724 Happy Philippines Independence 3724 02:20:29,724 --> 02:20:32,124 Weekend and United States 3725 02:20:34,162 --> 02:20:34,996 independence Weekend. 3726 02:20:34,996 --> 02:20:39,670 I want to speak I want to 3727 02:20:39,670 --> 02:20:42,670 request that the council read 3728 02:20:42,571 --> 02:20:44,971 Docket Ordinance 0261 one nine 3729 02:20:48,143 --> 02:20:51,743 on the fees to register an 3730 02:20:57,252 --> 02:20:57,986 appeal The Council made 3731 02:20:57,986 --> 02:21:00,986 the determination that work was 3732 02:21:03,225 --> 02:21:03,925 based not on reasonable or 3733 02:21:03,925 --> 02:21:06,925 rational basis costs The city 3734 02:21:07,229 --> 02:21:07,929 appeal costs are now if c Dixit 3735 02:21:07,929 --> 02:21:08,530 and the staff report that 3736 02:21:08,530 --> 02:21:11,530 the fees were based on 3737 02:21:12,400 --> 02:21:12,734 contained obvious mathematical 3738 02:21:12,734 --> 02:21:14,703 errors. 3739 02:21:14,703 --> 02:21:18,303 I you know I'm protesting these 3740 02:21:20,442 --> 02:21:23,442 fees because it now excludes 3741 02:21:25,790 --> 02:21:25,914 the common man. 3742 02:21:25,914 --> 02:21:28,914 I can't believe that Democrats 3743 02:21:30,551 --> 02:21:34,151 would set fees so high to 3744 02:21:34,823 --> 02:21:35,424 exclude the participation of 3745 02:21:35,424 --> 02:21:37,824 the common working man. 3746 02:21:40,280 --> 02:21:40,528 Fees are now so high that it's 3747 02:21:40,528 --> 02:21:42,928 the same as rent. 3748 02:21:44,633 --> 02:21:45,334 Additionally, I've asked MISS 3749 02:21:45,334 --> 02:21:47,734 Fuentes to contact me 3750 02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:50,839 concerning the appeal notice 3751 02:21:50,839 --> 02:21:54,410 that is being sent out for 3752 02:21:54,410 --> 02:21:57,410 appeals before the City Council 3753 02:21:59,348 --> 02:22:00,149 for quasi judicial hearings. 3754 02:22:00,149 --> 02:22:03,749 There's one set for the seventh 3755 02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:04,485 and the way it's set up is 3756 02:22:04,485 --> 02:22:05,154 the defendant. 3757 02:22:05,154 --> 02:22:07,554 The executive branch gets 3758 02:22:09,792 --> 02:22:12,192 notice and participation while 3759 02:22:13,462 --> 02:22:13,862 the appellant gets no 3760 02:22:13,862 --> 02:22:14,730 recognition. 3761 02:22:14,730 --> 02:22:18,333 That whole notice has to be re 3762 02:22:18,333 --> 02:22:18,700 sent out or revised or 3763 02:22:18,700 --> 02:22:20,700 something. 3764 02:22:23,238 --> 02:22:23,939 It's seriously flawed and 3765 02:22:23,939 --> 02:22:26,339 doesn't meet legal standards. 3766 02:22:28,644 --> 02:22:29,440 So I asked City Clerk Fuentes 3767 02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:29,511 to call me. 3768 02:22:29,511 --> 02:22:30,179 >> Thank you. 3769 02:22:30,179 --> 02:22:30,645 Thank you for your time. 3770 02:22:30,645 --> 02:22:32,645 Thank you. 3771 02:22:33,482 --> 02:22:33,882 Our next and last speaker is 3772 02:22:33,882 --> 02:22:35,882 Judy Strang. 3773 02:22:42,323 --> 02:22:42,858 Please begin. 3774 02:22:42,858 --> 02:22:43,225 >> Good afternoon. 3775 02:22:43,225 --> 02:22:45,225 Excuse me. 3776 02:22:46,962 --> 02:22:47,830 Good afternoon, City Council. 3777 02:22:47,830 --> 02:22:50,830 Thank you for the all 3778 02:22:51,500 --> 02:22:52,201 the behind the scenes 3779 02:22:52,201 --> 02:22:52,835 operations that allow those of 3780 02:22:52,835 --> 02:22:53,736 us who are on the worksite 3781 02:22:53,736 --> 02:22:56,872 today to call in and share some 3782 02:22:56,872 --> 02:22:57,606 thoughts and observations 3783 02:22:57,606 --> 02:22:58,307 because of the experiences that 3784 02:22:58,307 --> 02:23:01,777 we have that are applicable we 3785 02:23:01,777 --> 02:23:02,111 think to the decisions you are 3786 02:23:02,111 --> 02:23:02,712 making. 3787 02:23:02,712 --> 02:23:05,712 I wanted to continue my 3788 02:23:06,415 --> 02:23:07,149 thoughts when I spoke to s54 3789 02:23:07,149 --> 02:23:09,549 regarding Alzheimer's and brain 3790 02:23:11,354 --> 02:23:12,221 awareness Month. 3791 02:23:12,221 --> 02:23:12,855 And I mentioned I think that 3792 02:23:12,855 --> 02:23:13,222 there's two sort of issues 3793 02:23:13,222 --> 02:23:15,222 going on. 3794 02:23:15,691 --> 02:23:19,291 One both of which I'm familiar 3795 02:23:19,561 --> 02:23:20,262 with a family member who has a 3796 02:23:20,262 --> 02:23:22,662 traumatic brain injury choice 3797 02:23:24,600 --> 02:23:25,134 he didn't make And it's been 3798 02:23:25,134 --> 02:23:25,534 horrific for him and 3799 02:23:25,534 --> 02:23:26,202 caregivers. 3800 02:23:26,202 --> 02:23:29,672 And then on the other hand, 3801 02:23:29,672 --> 02:23:30,339 another family member who's 3802 02:23:30,339 --> 02:23:32,339 unfortunately wasted his 3803 02:23:34,810 --> 02:23:37,210 beautiful brain because he 3804 02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:39,248 began his marijuana use at 17. 3805 02:23:39,248 --> 02:23:43,419 And we all know I think it's 3806 02:23:43,419 --> 02:23:44,860 been pretty clear from 3807 02:23:44,860 --> 02:23:46,486 the research that adolescent 3808 02:23:47,523 --> 02:23:48,240 brains continue to be formed up 3809 02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:48,724 until they're 25. 3810 02:23:48,724 --> 02:23:49,358 That's partially why marijuana 3811 02:23:49,358 --> 02:23:51,758 addiction is considered a 3812 02:23:52,395 --> 02:23:53,229 pediatric onset disease. 3813 02:23:53,229 --> 02:23:56,229 And so preventing young people 3814 02:23:57,400 --> 02:23:58,201 from initiating marijuana and 3815 02:23:58,201 --> 02:23:58,835 other drug use is really their 3816 02:23:58,835 --> 02:24:01,235 best chance for fulfilling 3817 02:24:01,904 --> 02:24:02,772 their potential. 3818 02:24:02,772 --> 02:24:03,539 A research that I think we MAY 3819 02:24:03,539 --> 02:24:06,539 have mentioned before but I 3820 02:24:07,510 --> 02:24:08,211 think comes as no new news to 3821 02:24:08,211 --> 02:24:11,514 you all that what children and 3822 02:24:11,514 --> 02:24:12,181 young adults see in their city 3823 02:24:12,181 --> 02:24:15,181 affects how they feel about 3824 02:24:15,985 --> 02:24:16,753 choices They make a particular 3825 02:24:16,753 --> 02:24:17,353 or this research suggests that 3826 02:24:17,353 --> 02:24:19,353 the commercial marijuana 3827 02:24:20,623 --> 02:24:21,157 enterprises that are in their 3828 02:24:21,157 --> 02:24:21,791 community, in their 3829 02:24:21,791 --> 02:24:23,791 neighborhoods mutes their 3830 02:24:25,661 --> 02:24:26,195 perception of risk and 3831 02:24:26,195 --> 02:24:26,662 increases the use of 3832 02:24:26,662 --> 02:24:28,662 the substances. 3833 02:24:31,567 --> 02:24:32,268 Which also compounded here in 3834 02:24:32,268 --> 02:24:32,902 the city of San Diego because 3835 02:24:32,902 --> 02:24:35,902 we have billboards and you 3836 02:24:35,905 --> 02:24:36,673 don't see billboards for Fenton 3837 02:24:36,673 --> 02:24:37,400 all that you sure do for 3838 02:24:37,400 --> 02:24:37,774 marijuana. 3839 02:24:37,774 --> 02:24:40,309 And so again, we're headed into 3840 02:24:40,309 --> 02:24:41,770 summer time. 3841 02:24:41,770 --> 02:24:41,778 We have young people out there 3842 02:24:41,778 --> 02:24:44,178 recreating and it's important 3843 02:24:44,948 --> 02:24:45,648 for us to look around our city 3844 02:24:45,648 --> 02:24:45,982 and see what influences our 3845 02:24:45,982 --> 02:24:46,416 choices. 3846 02:24:46,416 --> 02:24:46,783 >> Thank you. 3847 02:24:46,783 --> 02:24:48,783 Thank you. 3848 02:24:50,754 --> 02:24:51,321 That does conclude knowledge 3849 02:24:51,321 --> 02:24:51,688 and the public on it. 3850 02:24:51,688 --> 02:24:52,388 All right. 3851 02:24:52,388 --> 02:24:54,390 Thank you, Deputy Clerk We are 3852 02:24:54,390 --> 02:24:55,240 now adjourned for the noon 3853 02:24:55,240 --> 02:24:55,759 recess and reconvene open 3854 02:24:55,759 --> 02:24:59,359 session at 2 P.M. Or shortly 3855 02:25:03,566 --> 02:25:05,566 thereafter. 3856 02:40:39,144 --> 02:40:39,845 >> And 3857 02:40:39,845 --> 02:40:40,211 the already thank you for your 3858 02:40:40,211 --> 02:40:40,712 patience. 3859 02:40:40,712 --> 02:40:42,712 >> Good afternoon. 3860 02:40:43,282 --> 02:40:43,948 I will now reconvene the City 3861 02:40:43,948 --> 02:40:44,416 Council meeting of Tuesday, 3862 02:40:44,416 --> 02:40:46,416 JUNE 30th, 2026. 3863 02:40:47,652 --> 02:40:48,219 Clerk Please call the roll. 3864 02:40:48,219 --> 02:40:50,219 >> >> Thank you. 3865 02:40:52,457 --> 02:40:53,191 Council PRESIDENT Councilmember 3866 02:40:53,191 --> 02:40:55,191 Campbell Councilmember Whitburn 3867 02:40:58,620 --> 02:41:00,620 Councilmember Foster here. 3868 02:41:02,134 --> 02:41:03,100 Councilmember Von Wilpert 3869 02:41:03,100 --> 02:41:06,100 Council PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee 3870 02:41:07,390 --> 02:41:07,606 Councilmember Ocampo. 3871 02:41:07,606 --> 02:41:09,606 Councilmember Moreno 3872 02:41:11,977 --> 02:41:12,578 Councilmember Ella Rivera and 3873 02:41:12,578 --> 02:41:14,578 Council PRESIDENT LaCava 3874 02:41:17,150 --> 02:41:17,716 present also attending 3875 02:41:17,716 --> 02:41:18,350 the meeting are Assistant City 3876 02:41:18,350 --> 02:41:18,983 Attorney Michelle Garland, 3877 02:41:18,983 --> 02:41:20,983 independent budget analyst 3878 02:41:22,210 --> 02:41:22,721 Charles Monica, Council Affairs 3879 02:41:22,721 --> 02:41:25,721 advisor in the Mayor's office, 3880 02:41:26,658 --> 02:41:27,359 Code advisor and myself here 3881 02:41:27,359 --> 02:41:28,270 Deputy City Clerk Kevin Smith 3882 02:41:28,270 --> 02:41:29,962 All right, thank you Deputy 3883 02:41:29,962 --> 02:41:30,662 Clerk And with that 3884 02:41:30,662 --> 02:41:33,620 Councilmember Foster, can you 3885 02:41:35,267 --> 02:41:35,834 read your statement? 3886 02:41:35,834 --> 02:41:37,834 Yes, Thank you. 3887 02:41:40,505 --> 02:41:41,206 Council PRESIDENT I am 3888 02:41:41,206 --> 02:41:44,206 notifying the city council and 3889 02:41:45,377 --> 02:41:46,780 the public that I am attending 3890 02:41:46,780 --> 02:41:46,812 the meeting today remotely due 3891 02:41:46,812 --> 02:41:49,948 to just cause related to travel 3892 02:41:49,948 --> 02:41:50,749 while on official business 3893 02:41:50,749 --> 02:41:51,517 pursuant to the Brown Act I am 3894 02:41:51,517 --> 02:41:54,517 disclosing that there are no 3895 02:41:55,487 --> 02:41:56,188 individuals 18 years of age or 3896 02:41:56,188 --> 02:41:59,691 older present in the room with 3897 02:41:59,691 --> 02:42:00,426 me I will update this 3898 02:42:00,426 --> 02:42:03,426 disclosure if it changes during 3899 02:42:04,229 --> 02:42:04,730 the course of the meeting. 3900 02:42:04,730 --> 02:42:05,197 >> All right. 3901 02:42:05,197 --> 02:42:07,197 Thank you sir. 3902 02:42:09,334 --> 02:42:10,200 A quorum is now present for our 3903 02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:10,669 first order of business This 3904 02:42:10,669 --> 02:42:13,669 afternoon we have a request 3905 02:42:13,839 --> 02:42:14,606 from staff to return item 331. 3906 02:42:14,606 --> 02:42:14,974 I would like to make a 3907 02:42:14,974 --> 02:42:16,974 statement. 3908 02:42:23,381 --> 02:42:23,686 Michael, but there you go. 3909 02:42:23,686 --> 02:42:24,490 Okay. 3910 02:42:24,490 --> 02:42:24,683 Thank you. 3911 02:42:24,683 --> 02:42:26,683 Council PRESIDENT Michael 3912 02:42:27,386 --> 02:42:28,530 Prinz, Assistant deputy 3913 02:42:28,530 --> 02:42:28,721 director in the Development 3914 02:42:28,721 --> 02:42:29,388 Services Department staff is 3915 02:42:29,388 --> 02:42:32,388 requesting that the item be 3916 02:42:32,658 --> 02:42:33,159 returned to staff to allow 3917 02:42:33,159 --> 02:42:33,893 further review of 3918 02:42:33,893 --> 02:42:36,229 the appellant's letter received 3919 02:42:36,229 --> 02:42:37,290 on Thursday, JUNE 25th and then 3920 02:42:37,290 --> 02:42:37,330 to bring that back at a later 3921 02:42:37,330 --> 02:42:39,330 date. 3922 02:42:40,732 --> 02:42:41,200 >> All right. 3923 02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:41,900 Thank you, sir. 3924 02:42:41,900 --> 02:42:44,900 I take notice of public 3925 02:42:46,138 --> 02:42:46,873 hearings pretty seriously And 3926 02:42:46,873 --> 02:42:47,706 so in addition to the staff's 3927 02:42:47,706 --> 02:42:50,642 request, I also ask them to 3928 02:42:50,642 --> 02:42:51,244 give us evidence that 3929 02:42:51,244 --> 02:42:51,911 the appellant in fact is 3930 02:42:51,911 --> 02:42:54,311 comfortable with this being 3931 02:42:54,880 --> 02:42:55,548 delayed to take into 3932 02:42:55,548 --> 02:42:55,948 consideration the additional 3933 02:42:55,948 --> 02:42:57,948 information. 3934 02:42:59,485 --> 02:43:00,152 So without objection that my 3935 02:43:00,152 --> 02:43:00,886 colleagues will return this 3936 02:43:00,886 --> 02:43:04,289 item to staff and look for it 3937 02:43:04,289 --> 02:43:04,891 to be in docketed probably 3938 02:43:04,891 --> 02:43:07,291 after the summer recess. 3939 02:43:08,827 --> 02:43:09,762 Thank you sir. 3940 02:43:09,762 --> 02:43:12,762 With that clerk Deputy Clerk 3941 02:43:14,133 --> 02:43:16,133 please introduce item 330. 3942 02:43:17,737 --> 02:43:18,370 >> Item 330 is residential 3943 02:43:18,370 --> 02:43:20,206 rental price gouging, fee 3944 02:43:20,206 --> 02:43:22,206 exploitation and cost 3945 02:43:40,260 --> 02:43:40,693 transparency Ordinance Um 3946 02:43:40,693 --> 02:43:41,327 Council member Yellow Do we 3947 02:43:41,327 --> 02:43:43,763 want to make some opening 3948 02:43:43,763 --> 02:43:44,196 comments before turning it over 3949 02:43:44,196 --> 02:43:44,630 to your team? 3950 02:43:44,630 --> 02:43:46,630 >> Thank you. 3951 02:43:48,134 --> 02:43:48,868 Council PRESIDENT All right. 3952 02:43:48,868 --> 02:43:49,569 Last year the council had a 3953 02:43:49,569 --> 02:43:51,969 select committee to address 3954 02:43:53,439 --> 02:43:54,390 the cost of living and a lot of 3955 02:43:54,390 --> 02:43:54,674 good work happened there 3956 02:43:54,674 --> 02:43:56,674 including the residential 3957 02:43:57,844 --> 02:43:58,711 tenant utility ordinance. 3958 02:43:58,711 --> 02:43:59,412 And when that item came to 3959 02:43:59,412 --> 02:44:00,112 council there was a message we 3960 02:44:00,112 --> 02:44:03,112 heard from many renters across 3961 02:44:03,116 --> 02:44:03,750 San Diego that while that 3962 02:44:03,750 --> 02:44:06,150 ordinance would be helpful 3963 02:44:07,587 --> 02:44:08,354 there were there was still a 3964 02:44:08,354 --> 02:44:11,954 sea of fees that they were 3965 02:44:12,225 --> 02:44:12,858 drowning in and having a real 3966 02:44:12,858 --> 02:44:15,858 impact on their ability to 3967 02:44:16,229 --> 02:44:17,960 afford to live in San Diego. 3968 02:44:17,960 --> 02:44:17,730 So today you will have an 3969 02:44:17,730 --> 02:44:20,130 opportunity to discuss and 3970 02:44:21,200 --> 02:44:21,801 workshop a draft ordinance 3971 02:44:21,801 --> 02:44:22,468 meant to protect renters 3972 02:44:22,468 --> 02:44:23,135 throughout San Diego During 3973 02:44:23,135 --> 02:44:26,135 public comment we will hear 3974 02:44:26,172 --> 02:44:26,872 stories from San Diegans that 3975 02:44:26,872 --> 02:44:29,272 have experienced and continue 3976 02:44:30,843 --> 02:44:31,511 to face junk fees every day. 3977 02:44:31,511 --> 02:44:32,178 We also hear opposition to 3978 02:44:32,178 --> 02:44:35,778 the ordinance as we do every 3979 02:44:35,982 --> 02:44:36,716 time we take and take steps to 3980 02:44:36,716 --> 02:44:37,550 protect renters in this city we 3981 02:44:37,550 --> 02:44:40,386 will hear that it will be 3982 02:44:40,386 --> 02:44:40,987 impossible to be a landlord. 3983 02:44:40,987 --> 02:44:41,621 But there are examples 3984 02:44:41,621 --> 02:44:44,210 throughout the country of 3985 02:44:44,391 --> 02:44:45,910 similar ordinances that provide 3986 02:44:45,910 --> 02:44:45,758 the same protections that are 3987 02:44:45,758 --> 02:44:48,158 being presented here today. 3988 02:44:50,290 --> 02:44:50,797 What I think we need to make 3989 02:44:50,797 --> 02:44:54,397 clear is who the city is 3990 02:44:54,500 --> 02:44:55,234 actually working for and it 3991 02:44:55,234 --> 02:44:56,350 should be every day San Diegans 3992 02:44:56,350 --> 02:44:59,672 that make up the heart of our 3993 02:44:59,672 --> 02:45:00,407 city not corporate interests. 3994 02:45:00,407 --> 02:45:01,740 And with that I'll hand it over 3995 02:45:01,740 --> 02:45:03,474 to Jeffrey to begin 3996 02:45:04,310 --> 02:45:04,711 the presentation. 3997 02:45:04,711 --> 02:45:06,711 Thank you. 3998 02:45:09,682 --> 02:45:10,383 Hello, Council PRESIDENT. 3999 02:45:10,383 --> 02:45:11,510 Like other members of the City 4000 02:45:11,510 --> 02:45:11,384 council, my name is Jeffrey 4001 02:45:11,384 --> 02:45:12,520 Nguyen. 4002 02:45:12,520 --> 02:45:13,987 I'm presenting on behalf of 4003 02:45:13,987 --> 02:45:14,720 Councilmember Isla Rivera and 4004 02:45:14,720 --> 02:45:15,322 presenting item 330 residential 4005 02:45:15,322 --> 02:45:17,722 rental price gouging for 4006 02:45:18,225 --> 02:45:18,824 exploitation and cost 4007 02:45:18,824 --> 02:45:20,824 transparency ordinance. 4008 02:45:23,696 --> 02:45:24,531 >> I need about ten minutes. 4009 02:45:24,531 --> 02:45:26,931 >> Item 330 is an informational 4010 02:45:28,100 --> 02:45:28,702 item I'll be going over 4011 02:45:28,702 --> 02:45:29,402 the draft ordinance and we are 4012 02:45:29,402 --> 02:45:32,402 seeking input from the public 4013 02:45:33,240 --> 02:45:34,107 and council members. 4014 02:45:34,107 --> 02:45:36,507 >> First our fight background 4015 02:45:36,676 --> 02:45:37,343 and additional context and one 4016 02:45:37,343 --> 02:45:37,877 we are bringing forward this 4017 02:45:37,877 --> 02:45:39,877 proposed ordinance. 4018 02:45:41,648 --> 02:45:42,248 The purpose of this ordinance 4019 02:45:42,248 --> 02:45:42,649 is to make housing more 4020 02:45:42,649 --> 02:45:43,383 affordable. 4021 02:45:43,383 --> 02:45:46,190 Respond to concerns or requests 4022 02:45:46,190 --> 02:45:46,753 we have heard from San Diegans 4023 02:45:46,753 --> 02:45:47,454 and to promote fairness, equity 4024 02:45:47,454 --> 02:45:49,854 and transparency regarding how 4025 02:45:50,123 --> 02:45:50,724 landlords charge fees to 4026 02:45:50,724 --> 02:45:52,724 residential tenants and 4027 02:45:55,162 --> 02:45:55,862 applicants. 4028 02:45:55,862 --> 02:45:56,563 >> This item was originally 4029 02:45:56,563 --> 02:45:59,563 brought forward at the Select 4030 02:46:00,300 --> 02:46:01,100 Committee on Addressing Cost of 4031 02:46:01,100 --> 02:46:01,735 Living on OCTOBER 30th, 2025. 4032 02:46:01,735 --> 02:46:04,735 The item in committee presented 4033 02:46:05,439 --> 02:46:06,600 a proposed aspects to be 4034 02:46:06,600 --> 02:46:06,740 drafted into the draft 4035 02:46:06,740 --> 02:46:10,243 ordinance as part of the Action 4036 02:46:10,243 --> 02:46:10,877 Council District four and nine 4037 02:46:10,877 --> 02:46:11,578 were directed to work with 4038 02:46:11,578 --> 02:46:14,248 the City Attorney's Office to 4039 02:46:14,248 --> 02:46:14,948 draft an ordinance to be later 4040 02:46:14,948 --> 02:46:17,348 presented for discussion which 4041 02:46:19,653 --> 02:46:20,420 we are doing here today. 4042 02:46:20,420 --> 02:46:21,121 At the same time this item was 4043 02:46:21,121 --> 02:46:24,121 heard at committee the county 4044 02:46:25,920 --> 02:46:25,592 was simultaneously working on a 4045 02:46:25,592 --> 02:46:26,226 similar ordinance. 4046 02:46:26,226 --> 02:46:26,860 Our office partnered with 4047 02:46:26,860 --> 02:46:29,260 the offices of Supervisor 4048 02:46:30,397 --> 02:46:30,998 Montgomery Staab and Supervisor 4049 02:46:30,998 --> 02:46:33,398 Gary to develop similar 4050 02:46:34,735 --> 02:46:35,135 ordinances for the city and 4051 02:46:35,135 --> 02:46:35,836 the county. 4052 02:46:35,836 --> 02:46:36,503 Since last year we have worked 4053 02:46:36,503 --> 02:46:38,305 together to draft all our 4054 02:46:38,305 --> 02:46:41,305 ordinances and they mirror each 4055 02:46:42,542 --> 02:46:43,410 other as much as possible. 4056 02:46:43,410 --> 02:46:46,446 This is a brief overview of 4057 02:46:46,446 --> 02:46:47,470 the rental market per Redfin in 4058 02:46:47,470 --> 02:46:49,447 quarter three of 2024 in 4059 02:46:50,150 --> 02:46:53,750 the San Diego metro area 48% of 4060 02:46:53,954 --> 02:46:54,722 San Diegans were renters And as 4061 02:46:54,722 --> 02:46:55,422 of MAY 2026 the average rent in 4062 02:46:55,422 --> 02:46:57,822 San Diego was approximate 4063 02:46:59,920 --> 02:47:01,920 Approximately $3,027. 4064 02:47:02,495 --> 02:47:03,230 Of the renters in San Diego 4065 02:47:03,230 --> 02:47:03,964 about 110,000 are cost burdened 4066 02:47:03,964 --> 02:47:07,467 or pay more than 30% of their 4067 02:47:07,467 --> 02:47:08,268 income to rent. 4068 02:47:08,268 --> 02:47:09,200 This chart shows the proportion 4069 02:47:09,200 --> 02:47:12,372 of recent renters by the number 4070 02:47:12,372 --> 02:47:13,400 of applications they submitted. 4071 02:47:13,400 --> 02:47:13,707 A 2024 report by the White 4072 02:47:13,707 --> 02:47:16,107 House Council of Economic 4073 02:47:17,577 --> 02:47:20,577 Advisors reports the burden of 4074 02:47:21,282 --> 02:47:21,782 application fees totaled 176 4075 02:47:21,782 --> 02:47:23,782 million each year. 4076 02:47:25,190 --> 02:47:25,685 A 2025 Zillow Consumer Housing 4077 02:47:25,685 --> 02:47:28,685 Trends report noted fees MAY 4078 02:47:29,723 --> 02:47:30,224 not apply equally throughout 4079 02:47:30,224 --> 02:47:30,824 the rental market. 4080 02:47:30,824 --> 02:47:33,224 Recent renters of color 4081 02:47:34,295 --> 02:47:34,962 reported paying higher total 4082 02:47:34,962 --> 02:47:37,362 amounts in application fees. 4083 02:47:38,466 --> 02:47:39,133 They are also more likely to 4084 02:47:39,133 --> 02:47:39,833 report paying at least one 4085 02:47:39,833 --> 02:47:42,233 recurring fee and renters 4086 02:47:43,604 --> 02:47:46,604 between the ages of 18 and 29 4087 02:47:46,741 --> 02:47:50,941 are most likely to pay at least 4088 02:47:52,113 --> 02:47:52,813 one recurring fee. 4089 02:47:52,813 --> 02:47:55,813 San Diego are cost burdened. 4090 02:47:56,450 --> 02:47:57,151 Cost of living expenses are 4091 02:47:57,151 --> 02:48:00,151 going up but working families 4092 02:48:01,880 --> 02:48:01,856 incomes are not keeping pace. 4093 02:48:01,856 --> 02:48:02,557 Jeung fees are a growing 4094 02:48:02,557 --> 02:48:04,957 problem burdening San Diegans. 4095 02:48:06,427 --> 02:48:07,160 On the following slide our real 4096 02:48:07,160 --> 02:48:07,461 example shared to our Office of 4097 02:48:07,461 --> 02:48:08,950 Fees. 4098 02:48:08,950 --> 02:48:10,495 Tenants have been charged 4099 02:48:10,665 --> 02:48:11,365 renting in San Diego. 4100 02:48:11,365 --> 02:48:12,660 This slide shows an additional 4101 02:48:12,660 --> 02:48:15,666 fee to tenants for choosing a 4102 02:48:18,906 --> 02:48:19,774 month to month lease option. 4103 02:48:19,774 --> 02:48:20,474 >> This is a quote from a San 4104 02:48:20,474 --> 02:48:22,977 Diego n whose landlord removed 4105 02:48:22,977 --> 02:48:23,678 their garage from their rent 4106 02:48:23,678 --> 02:48:26,678 agreement unless they paid an 4107 02:48:28,482 --> 02:48:29,317 additional $600 fee per month. 4108 02:48:29,317 --> 02:48:32,453 >> The next two slides are from 4109 02:48:32,453 --> 02:48:33,320 another San Diego and who 4110 02:48:33,320 --> 02:48:33,755 struggle to find a new home on 4111 02:48:33,755 --> 02:48:35,755 short notice. 4112 02:48:36,758 --> 02:48:37,425 Their landlord gave them 60 day 4113 02:48:37,425 --> 02:48:38,159 notice to move out with a 4114 02:48:38,159 --> 02:48:38,659 household of eight three adults 4115 02:48:38,659 --> 02:48:40,659 and five children. 4116 02:48:41,763 --> 02:48:42,497 They had a pay application and 4117 02:48:42,497 --> 02:48:43,231 screening fees for three adults 4118 02:48:43,231 --> 02:48:46,100 for every unit they applied to. 4119 02:48:46,100 --> 02:48:46,968 They spent over $400 to apply 4120 02:48:46,968 --> 02:48:50,568 not to get housing just to 4121 02:48:50,672 --> 02:48:51,339 apply. 4122 02:48:51,339 --> 02:48:52,400 They shared with our office 4123 02:48:52,400 --> 02:48:54,440 that every denied application 4124 02:48:55,409 --> 02:48:56,144 was met with the same response 4125 02:48:56,144 --> 02:48:59,744 that someone else has chosen or 4126 02:48:59,781 --> 02:49:00,582 they had too many application. 4127 02:49:00,582 --> 02:49:03,582 >> In all of these instances 4128 02:49:04,719 --> 02:49:05,587 the landlord kept that money. 4129 02:49:05,587 --> 02:49:08,587 >> Rental fees Are any payment 4130 02:49:10,491 --> 02:49:11,590 or charged imposed by a 4131 02:49:11,590 --> 02:49:11,759 landlord to a tenant. 4132 02:49:11,759 --> 02:49:14,795 A rental fee does not include 4133 02:49:14,795 --> 02:49:15,496 rent late fees security 4134 02:49:15,496 --> 02:49:16,131 deposits and utility charges. 4135 02:49:16,131 --> 02:49:16,831 Here are some examples of 4136 02:49:16,831 --> 02:49:19,467 rental fees that tenants MAY 4137 02:49:19,467 --> 02:49:20,268 need to pay to find a home or 4138 02:49:20,268 --> 02:49:23,268 to continue living in their 4139 02:49:23,938 --> 02:49:24,638 home. 4140 02:49:24,638 --> 02:49:25,306 >> Other jurisdictions have 4141 02:49:25,306 --> 02:49:27,706 begun taking actions against 4142 02:49:28,810 --> 02:49:29,243 unnecessary or excessive fee 4143 02:49:29,243 --> 02:49:29,944 practices. 4144 02:49:29,944 --> 02:49:31,944 Bellingham, Washington Captain 4145 02:49:33,481 --> 02:49:34,182 Late fees do 2% of outstanding 4146 02:49:34,182 --> 02:49:34,749 monthly rent past due cap 4147 02:49:34,749 --> 02:49:36,749 security deposits and 4148 02:49:38,820 --> 02:49:39,354 prohibitive fee for the use of 4149 02:49:39,354 --> 02:49:41,354 in unit appliances. 4150 02:49:42,891 --> 02:49:43,224 Access to common areas and more 4151 02:49:43,224 --> 02:49:43,825 . 4152 02:49:43,825 --> 02:49:46,225 >> The State of Virginia 4153 02:49:48,290 --> 02:49:48,830 requires fee transparency 4154 02:49:48,830 --> 02:49:49,464 capped late fees and provided a 4155 02:49:49,464 --> 02:49:52,464 grace period for the late 4156 02:49:53,201 --> 02:49:53,801 payment of rent. 4157 02:49:53,801 --> 02:49:54,369 >> The state of Colorado 4158 02:49:54,369 --> 02:49:56,369 prohibits persons from 4159 02:49:58,273 --> 02:49:58,840 misrepresenting the pricing of 4160 02:49:58,840 --> 02:49:59,474 goods and services and 4161 02:49:59,474 --> 02:50:01,474 prohibited landlords from 4162 02:50:03,145 --> 02:50:03,912 requiring tenants to pay a fee 4163 02:50:03,912 --> 02:50:04,613 for the processing of rents and 4164 02:50:04,613 --> 02:50:05,130 for the services necessary to 4165 02:50:05,130 --> 02:50:05,614 comply with 4166 02:50:05,614 --> 02:50:07,614 the responsibilities or 4167 02:50:11,486 --> 02:50:12,120 obligation of the landlord. 4168 02:50:12,120 --> 02:50:12,787 The state of Colorado also 4169 02:50:12,787 --> 02:50:15,187 restricted pet deposits, pet 4170 02:50:16,358 --> 02:50:16,657 rents and pet related rental 4171 02:50:16,657 --> 02:50:17,325 fees. 4172 02:50:17,325 --> 02:50:20,325 This graph shows the housing 4173 02:50:21,663 --> 02:50:22,630 market in Colorado in response 4174 02:50:22,630 --> 02:50:22,731 to the bill. 4175 02:50:22,731 --> 02:50:25,731 The blue vertical line shows 4176 02:50:25,966 --> 02:50:26,668 the implementation date and 4177 02:50:26,668 --> 02:50:27,269 the graph shows the proportion 4178 02:50:27,269 --> 02:50:27,636 of rentals that were pet 4179 02:50:27,636 --> 02:50:29,203 friendly. 4180 02:50:29,203 --> 02:50:30,204 As you can see the proportion 4181 02:50:30,204 --> 02:50:33,804 of pet friendly units did not 4182 02:50:34,643 --> 02:50:35,377 decrease. 4183 02:50:35,377 --> 02:50:36,780 There are a number of state 4184 02:50:36,780 --> 02:50:36,778 laws that regulate and provide 4185 02:50:36,778 --> 02:50:39,178 certain protections on rental 4186 02:50:39,414 --> 02:50:40,215 fees. 4187 02:50:40,215 --> 02:50:40,949 Our proposal builds on current 4188 02:50:40,949 --> 02:50:43,949 state law to provide additional 4189 02:50:44,553 --> 02:50:45,287 needed protections. 4190 02:50:45,287 --> 02:50:48,287 With this background this leads 4191 02:50:51,726 --> 02:50:52,394 into our policy proposal Since 4192 02:50:52,394 --> 02:50:53,280 MAY 19th when the item was 4193 02:50:53,280 --> 02:50:55,428 originally scheduled to be 4194 02:50:55,831 --> 02:50:56,398 heard, there has been one 4195 02:50:56,398 --> 02:50:57,320 addition to the draft. 4196 02:50:57,320 --> 02:50:57,699 I would like to note under 4197 02:50:57,699 --> 02:50:59,701 exemptions we have added 4198 02:50:59,701 --> 02:51:02,101 the exemption of affordable 4199 02:51:04,406 --> 02:51:04,740 housing excluding Section eight 4200 02:51:04,740 --> 02:51:05,374 . 4201 02:51:05,374 --> 02:51:06,740 The proposed ordinance is 4202 02:51:06,740 --> 02:51:09,740 divided into two main portions 4203 02:51:10,145 --> 02:51:10,746 charges to applicants and 4204 02:51:10,746 --> 02:51:11,313 charges to tenants under 4205 02:51:11,313 --> 02:51:11,946 charges to applicants. 4206 02:51:11,946 --> 02:51:14,750 A landlord shall accept an 4207 02:51:14,750 --> 02:51:15,417 applicant screening report and 4208 02:51:15,417 --> 02:51:16,510 not charge the applicant for 4209 02:51:16,510 --> 02:51:18,451 the landlord to separately 4210 02:51:18,886 --> 02:51:19,455 obtain any information 4211 02:51:19,455 --> 02:51:21,455 including included in 4212 02:51:24,260 --> 02:51:24,325 the applicant screening report 4213 02:51:24,325 --> 02:51:24,960 . 4214 02:51:24,960 --> 02:51:25,661 A landlord MAY charge an 4215 02:51:25,661 --> 02:51:28,300 applicant a holding deposit in 4216 02:51:28,300 --> 02:51:28,497 an amount not to exceed 5% of 4217 02:51:28,497 --> 02:51:29,230 monthly rent for 4218 02:51:29,230 --> 02:51:31,630 the residential rental property 4219 02:51:32,534 --> 02:51:33,235 being held. 4220 02:51:33,235 --> 02:51:33,903 If the landlord and applicant 4221 02:51:33,903 --> 02:51:36,903 applicant fail to finalize a 4222 02:51:37,673 --> 02:51:38,240 lease the landlord shall refund 4223 02:51:38,240 --> 02:51:38,806 the holding deposit to 4224 02:51:38,806 --> 02:51:41,206 the applicant or apply 4225 02:51:42,578 --> 02:51:43,145 the holding deposit to rent or 4226 02:51:43,145 --> 02:51:45,145 the security deposit. 4227 02:51:46,715 --> 02:51:47,516 If they fail to finalize a 4228 02:51:47,516 --> 02:51:48,150 lease at no fault of 4229 02:51:48,150 --> 02:51:48,750 the applicant the landlord 4230 02:51:48,750 --> 02:51:51,150 shall refund the holding 4231 02:51:51,220 --> 02:51:51,987 deposit within five business 4232 02:51:51,987 --> 02:51:56,580 days from the date the hold on 4233 02:51:56,580 --> 02:51:58,458 the property expires and 4234 02:52:01,430 --> 02:52:02,197 charges to tenants. 4235 02:52:02,197 --> 02:52:02,965 A landlord tenant charge a 4236 02:52:02,965 --> 02:52:05,267 tenant recurring fees and a 4237 02:52:05,267 --> 02:52:06,350 cumulative amount and greater 4238 02:52:06,350 --> 02:52:06,801 than 5% of monthly rent If a 4239 02:52:06,801 --> 02:52:09,801 fee is recurring at intervals 4240 02:52:10,139 --> 02:52:10,773 other than monthly. 4241 02:52:10,773 --> 02:52:13,173 The landlord shall prorate 4242 02:52:14,577 --> 02:52:15,277 the fee to a monthly rate for 4243 02:52:15,277 --> 02:52:16,440 the purposes of this section. 4244 02:52:16,440 --> 02:52:19,548 A landlord shall not charge a 4245 02:52:19,548 --> 02:52:20,182 tenant a late fee in an amount 4246 02:52:20,182 --> 02:52:20,482 greater than 2% of monthly 4247 02:52:20,482 --> 02:52:22,482 rent. 4248 02:52:24,487 --> 02:52:25,257 A Landlords are not charged a 4249 02:52:25,257 --> 02:52:28,290 tenant a late fee unless rent 4250 02:52:28,290 --> 02:52:28,624 is overdue by seven days or 4251 02:52:28,624 --> 02:52:29,258 greater. 4252 02:52:29,258 --> 02:52:32,258 A landlord shall apply any 4253 02:52:32,961 --> 02:52:33,696 payments by or on behalf of 4254 02:52:33,696 --> 02:52:34,897 the tenant first to rent and do 4255 02:52:34,897 --> 02:52:38,497 and then to any unpaid late 4256 02:52:40,769 --> 02:52:41,403 fees a landlord charge that 4257 02:52:41,403 --> 02:52:42,137 charge a tenant an amount 4258 02:52:42,137 --> 02:52:45,137 greater than the processing fee 4259 02:52:45,607 --> 02:52:46,342 imposed on the landlord. 4260 02:52:46,342 --> 02:52:49,942 A Landlords are not charged a 4261 02:52:50,313 --> 02:52:50,946 tenant a fee for services 4262 02:52:50,946 --> 02:52:51,681 solicited by a landlord to 4263 02:52:51,681 --> 02:52:54,810 maintain the residential rental 4264 02:52:55,284 --> 02:52:55,651 property in a habitable 4265 02:52:55,651 --> 02:52:56,452 condition. 4266 02:52:56,452 --> 02:52:59,452 >> For example pest control a 4267 02:52:59,755 --> 02:53:00,556 landlord shall not charge a 4268 02:53:00,556 --> 02:53:01,224 tenant a fee for a tenant to 4269 02:53:01,224 --> 02:53:03,426 own or maintain a common 4270 02:53:03,426 --> 02:53:05,826 household pet at their 4271 02:53:08,431 --> 02:53:09,650 residential rental property. 4272 02:53:09,650 --> 02:53:09,732 The American Society for 4273 02:53:09,732 --> 02:53:12,732 the Prevention of Cruelty to 4274 02:53:12,735 --> 02:53:13,436 Animals The aspca provided our 4275 02:53:13,436 --> 02:53:14,360 office data and insight into 4276 02:53:14,360 --> 02:53:17,360 pet fees in San Diego. 4277 02:53:18,740 --> 02:53:18,374 Pet related charges are shown 4278 02:53:18,374 --> 02:53:19,750 here. 4279 02:53:19,750 --> 02:53:22,644 They are broken down by pet 4280 02:53:22,644 --> 02:53:22,979 fees, pet deposits and pet rent 4281 02:53:22,979 --> 02:53:23,846 . 4282 02:53:23,846 --> 02:53:27,149 Many of these fees were charged 4283 02:53:27,149 --> 02:53:28,170 per pet. 4284 02:53:28,170 --> 02:53:31,170 >> Finally a landlord shall not 4285 02:53:32,421 --> 02:53:33,550 charge a tenant if he does not 4286 02:53:33,550 --> 02:53:33,789 specified in the lease. 4287 02:53:33,789 --> 02:53:37,389 A tenant MAY agree in writing 4288 02:53:37,560 --> 02:53:38,194 to a proposed fee not specify 4289 02:53:38,194 --> 02:53:38,895 it in the lease. 4290 02:53:38,895 --> 02:53:39,562 After the landlord provides a 4291 02:53:39,562 --> 02:53:42,562 written notice to the tenant 4292 02:53:42,765 --> 02:53:43,533 not less than 30 days before 4293 02:53:43,533 --> 02:53:47,236 the fee is intended to go into 4294 02:53:47,236 --> 02:53:47,937 effect the written notice shall 4295 02:53:47,937 --> 02:53:50,337 include the following purpose 4296 02:53:52,341 --> 02:53:53,420 for the fee total amount of 4297 02:53:53,420 --> 02:53:53,910 the fee in the amount of each 4298 02:53:53,910 --> 02:53:56,879 charge of the fee if charged in 4299 02:53:56,879 --> 02:53:57,647 intervals the duration the fee 4300 02:53:57,647 --> 02:54:00,883 will be charged if charged in 4301 02:54:00,883 --> 02:54:01,183 intervals The commencement 4302 02:54:01,183 --> 02:54:01,951 date. 4303 02:54:01,951 --> 02:54:05,551 The fee will be charged an 4304 02:54:05,722 --> 02:54:06,489 itemized billing for the fee. 4305 02:54:06,489 --> 02:54:07,357 In other words, a tenant can 4306 02:54:07,357 --> 02:54:10,957 reject a proposed new fee Their 4307 02:54:11,127 --> 02:54:11,761 landlord is trying to impose 4308 02:54:11,761 --> 02:54:14,761 that has not already been 4309 02:54:15,232 --> 02:54:16,199 specified in the lease. 4310 02:54:16,199 --> 02:54:19,199 >> a landlord shall disclose in 4311 02:54:20,336 --> 02:54:21,300 a clear conspicuous manner 4312 02:54:21,300 --> 02:54:21,671 the following information on 4313 02:54:21,671 --> 02:54:24,710 any website or advertisement 4314 02:54:25,410 --> 02:54:25,808 that list an available rental. 4315 02:54:25,808 --> 02:54:29,408 The total amount of charges for 4316 02:54:29,879 --> 02:54:30,547 submission and consideration of 4317 02:54:30,547 --> 02:54:31,246 an application to lease a 4318 02:54:31,246 --> 02:54:33,646 residential rental property an 4319 02:54:34,751 --> 02:54:35,318 itemized as to each charge 4320 02:54:35,318 --> 02:54:35,919 the total monthly rent 4321 02:54:35,919 --> 02:54:38,919 the total amount of fees 4322 02:54:39,823 --> 02:54:40,490 whether the fees are optional 4323 02:54:40,490 --> 02:54:43,159 or required, the nature and 4324 02:54:43,159 --> 02:54:43,760 purpose of the fees and 4325 02:54:43,760 --> 02:54:46,160 the timing and frequency 4326 02:54:48,564 --> 02:54:49,432 the fees will be charged. 4327 02:54:49,432 --> 02:54:51,832 >> a landlord's itemized all 4328 02:54:54,137 --> 02:54:54,837 fees distinct from rent in 4329 02:54:54,837 --> 02:54:55,538 the lease and on any bill or 4330 02:54:55,538 --> 02:54:56,673 invoice to the tenant Each fee 4331 02:54:56,673 --> 02:54:59,730 must be intelligible and 4332 02:55:01,844 --> 02:55:02,612 distinct from other fees. 4333 02:55:02,612 --> 02:55:03,280 On this slide is a current 4334 02:55:03,280 --> 02:55:03,746 example pulled from various 4335 02:55:03,746 --> 02:55:05,746 Zillow listings. 4336 02:55:07,170 --> 02:55:07,684 A fee transparency and fee 4337 02:55:07,684 --> 02:55:10,840 disclosure in an online 4338 02:55:11,388 --> 02:55:11,887 advertisement. 4339 02:55:11,887 --> 02:55:12,389 >> This concludes 4340 02:55:12,389 --> 02:55:14,389 the presentation. 4341 02:55:16,325 --> 02:55:17,270 For the sake of time I provided 4342 02:55:17,270 --> 02:55:17,727 a high level overview of 4343 02:55:17,727 --> 02:55:21,327 the ordinance and I'm happy to 4344 02:55:21,697 --> 02:55:22,164 go over any portion in detail. 4345 02:55:22,164 --> 02:55:22,666 >> Thank you. 4346 02:55:22,666 --> 02:55:23,365 Thank you Jeffrey. 4347 02:55:23,365 --> 02:55:25,765 Counselors I'll just conclude 4348 02:55:25,869 --> 02:55:26,569 by saying again this is a 4349 02:55:26,569 --> 02:55:26,870 conversation that started last 4350 02:55:26,870 --> 02:55:27,571 year. 4351 02:55:27,571 --> 02:55:30,571 I want to thank Councilmember 4352 02:55:30,740 --> 02:55:31,475 Foster for his partnership 4353 02:55:31,475 --> 02:55:35,750 since committee and the work of 4354 02:55:35,345 --> 02:55:35,912 his office in addition to 4355 02:55:35,912 --> 02:55:36,512 the partnership of our 4356 02:55:36,512 --> 02:55:38,912 colleagues at the county 4357 02:55:40,500 --> 02:55:40,717 supervisor Montgomery Step in 4358 02:55:40,717 --> 02:55:41,451 Supervisor Gary they've all 4359 02:55:41,451 --> 02:55:41,885 been very helpful in getting us 4360 02:55:41,885 --> 02:55:42,452 to this point. 4361 02:55:42,452 --> 02:55:42,819 >> Thank you, Council 4362 02:55:42,819 --> 02:55:44,819 PRESIDENT. 4363 02:55:45,455 --> 02:55:46,156 All right then Councilmember 4364 02:55:46,156 --> 02:55:49,156 Ella Rivera and your officers 4365 02:55:49,626 --> 02:55:50,127 work And to Jeremy and Maya for 4366 02:55:50,127 --> 02:55:50,827 the presentation. 4367 02:55:50,827 --> 02:55:53,827 With that deputy clerk please 4368 02:55:56,767 --> 02:55:57,234 proceed with public comment. 4369 02:55:57,234 --> 02:55:57,734 >> Thank you. 4370 02:55:57,734 --> 02:55:58,335 Council PRESIDENT. 4371 02:55:58,335 --> 02:56:00,504 This item received five 4372 02:56:00,504 --> 02:56:01,203 comments in favor and 27 4373 02:56:01,203 --> 02:56:04,203 comments in opposition via our 4374 02:56:05,342 --> 02:56:06,900 e comment form which has been 4375 02:56:06,900 --> 02:56:06,643 distributed to the Council. 4376 02:56:06,643 --> 02:56:06,977 Each speaker will have one 4377 02:56:06,977 --> 02:56:08,977 minute. 4378 02:56:10,147 --> 02:56:10,480 We will begin with in-person 4379 02:56:10,480 --> 02:56:12,480 comment. 4380 02:56:12,516 --> 02:56:14,916 Diandra kron please come. 4381 02:56:17,854 --> 02:56:18,722 Please come forward. 4382 02:56:18,722 --> 02:56:19,156 And after diandra we will have 4383 02:56:19,156 --> 02:56:21,156 William Snell. 4384 02:56:22,426 --> 02:56:22,759 Stephanie Benvenuto and Susan 4385 02:56:22,759 --> 02:56:24,759 Ornelas. 4386 02:56:27,363 --> 02:56:28,650 Please come sit in the front 4387 02:56:28,650 --> 02:56:28,532 row and be ready to speak. 4388 02:56:28,532 --> 02:56:28,999 >> Please begin. 4389 02:56:28,999 --> 02:56:30,999 Good afternoon. 4390 02:56:32,168 --> 02:56:32,870 Council members. 4391 02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:33,503 My name is Deandra Cryan. 4392 02:56:33,503 --> 02:56:34,203 I'm a vice PRESIDENT And 4393 02:56:34,203 --> 02:56:36,603 Assistant general counsel for 4394 02:56:36,774 --> 02:56:37,407 Valley Living for Compliance 4395 02:56:37,407 --> 02:56:38,750 and Environmental Health. 4396 02:56:38,750 --> 02:56:38,442 I'm also a local California 4397 02:56:38,442 --> 02:56:40,442 resident. 4398 02:56:41,478 --> 02:56:42,179 I'm here today regarding 4399 02:56:42,179 --> 02:56:42,713 the proposed fee restrictions 4400 02:56:42,713 --> 02:56:44,713 on housing providers 4401 02:56:46,517 --> 02:56:46,917 specifically as they relate to 4402 02:56:46,917 --> 02:56:47,451 valet trash. 4403 02:56:47,451 --> 02:56:49,851 Valet living has set 4404 02:56:50,721 --> 02:56:51,388 the standard for amenity 4405 02:56:51,388 --> 02:56:52,880 multifamily waste management 4406 02:56:52,880 --> 02:56:54,488 management for over 30 years. 4407 02:56:55,592 --> 02:56:56,260 We service more than 2 million 4408 02:56:56,260 --> 02:56:58,660 apartment homes every night 4409 02:57:00,130 --> 02:57:00,764 across the United States and in 4410 02:57:00,764 --> 02:57:03,164 San Diego County alone. 4411 02:57:04,868 --> 02:57:05,669 We employ 128 w2 Associates 4412 02:57:05,669 --> 02:57:06,300 with an annual payroll of 1.6 4413 02:57:06,300 --> 02:57:06,837 million. 4414 02:57:06,837 --> 02:57:10,437 Many of those part time workers 4415 02:57:10,807 --> 02:57:11,508 local to the city who rely on 4416 02:57:11,508 --> 02:57:11,875 their income to support their 4417 02:57:11,875 --> 02:57:12,408 families. 4418 02:57:12,408 --> 02:57:15,408 I want to be direct. 4419 02:57:15,479 --> 02:57:16,450 Valley trash is not a baseline 4420 02:57:16,450 --> 02:57:18,450 habitability service. 4421 02:57:20,417 --> 02:57:21,151 It's an operational add on 4422 02:57:21,151 --> 02:57:21,785 amenity designed to enhance and 4423 02:57:21,785 --> 02:57:23,785 optimize waste management, 4424 02:57:25,489 --> 02:57:26,190 improve being resident 4425 02:57:26,190 --> 02:57:26,590 satisfaction, waste diversion 4426 02:57:26,590 --> 02:57:28,590 and safety. 4427 02:57:30,427 --> 02:57:32,827 We support strong disclosure 4428 02:57:35,432 --> 02:57:35,900 however. 4429 02:57:35,900 --> 02:57:36,533 >> Thank you. 4430 02:57:36,533 --> 02:57:36,901 That concludes your time. 4431 02:57:36,901 --> 02:57:38,901 Thank you. 4432 02:57:39,738 --> 02:57:40,700 Our next speaker is William 4433 02:57:40,700 --> 02:57:42,700 Snell. 4434 02:57:45,876 --> 02:57:46,510 >> William, you have a Amanda 4435 02:57:46,510 --> 02:57:47,244 MacDonald seating you time 4436 02:57:47,244 --> 02:57:50,181 Amanda can you raise your hand? 4437 02:57:50,181 --> 02:57:50,847 >> Thank you. 4438 02:57:50,847 --> 02:57:51,515 And you also have a 4439 02:57:51,515 --> 02:57:53,915 presentation which our staff 4440 02:57:54,752 --> 02:57:55,252 will um. 4441 02:57:55,252 --> 02:57:55,553 Oh good. 4442 02:57:55,553 --> 02:57:57,553 Yeah. 4443 02:58:04,629 --> 02:58:05,396 Okay. 4444 02:58:05,396 --> 02:58:07,965 >> Uh, first of all, good 4445 02:58:07,965 --> 02:58:09,965 afternoon to everyone. 4446 02:58:13,704 --> 02:58:14,472 Next slide please. 4447 02:58:14,472 --> 02:58:17,472 Circa 1980, my parents built a 4448 02:58:18,509 --> 02:58:19,210 small apartment building within 4449 02:58:19,210 --> 02:58:19,911 a moderate walking distance 4450 02:58:19,911 --> 02:58:23,511 from where we are now located. 4451 02:58:23,781 --> 02:58:24,448 We currently have tenants that 4452 02:58:24,448 --> 02:58:26,848 have been there 12 years 18 4453 02:58:27,852 --> 02:58:28,152 years on the state over 20 4454 02:58:28,152 --> 02:58:29,200 years. 4455 02:58:29,200 --> 02:58:32,620 We try to provide a quality 4456 02:58:32,890 --> 02:58:33,391 environment at a very 4457 02:58:33,391 --> 02:58:35,391 reasonable price. 4458 02:58:38,960 --> 02:58:38,763 Next slide please. 4459 02:58:38,763 --> 02:58:39,196 I have never charged for 4460 02:58:39,196 --> 02:58:39,864 screening fee. 4461 02:58:39,864 --> 02:58:41,532 I've never charged anyone at 4462 02:58:41,532 --> 02:58:45,360 any time for screening for a 4463 02:58:45,360 --> 02:58:47,360 period. 4464 02:58:50,775 --> 02:58:51,576 Next slide please. 4465 02:58:51,576 --> 02:58:52,310 I do not use holding deposits. 4466 02:58:52,310 --> 02:58:55,310 I believe the handshake between 4467 02:58:56,347 --> 02:58:56,847 honorable individuals should be 4468 02:58:56,847 --> 02:58:58,847 entirely adequate. 4469 02:59:00,918 --> 02:59:01,753 Next slide please. 4470 02:59:01,753 --> 02:59:05,353 I do not charge for water. 4471 02:59:07,580 --> 02:59:07,792 Pest control or trash? 4472 02:59:07,792 --> 02:59:10,461 I can remember a time when 4473 02:59:10,461 --> 02:59:14,132 the city of San Diego picked up 4474 02:59:14,132 --> 02:59:14,732 the trash for free. 4475 02:59:14,732 --> 02:59:16,732 Next slide please. 4476 02:59:20,638 --> 02:59:21,506 I have not charged a late fee 4477 02:59:21,506 --> 02:59:24,700 in over a decade and that 4478 02:59:24,700 --> 02:59:26,407 individual had more problems 4479 02:59:29,547 --> 02:59:30,470 than just a late fee. 4480 02:59:30,470 --> 02:59:32,470 Next slide please. 4481 02:59:34,652 --> 02:59:35,420 I do not charge for parking. 4482 02:59:35,420 --> 02:59:35,787 Neighbors have come to my 4483 02:59:35,787 --> 02:59:36,488 property. 4484 02:59:36,488 --> 02:59:36,855 And by the way I do not claim 4485 02:59:36,855 --> 02:59:38,855 ownership. 4486 02:59:39,791 --> 02:59:40,425 I am only a steward of 4487 02:59:40,425 --> 02:59:41,590 the small family business. 4488 02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:44,590 Neighbors have come to my 4489 02:59:45,396 --> 02:59:45,864 property and requested to rent 4490 02:59:45,864 --> 02:59:46,363 parking spaces. 4491 02:59:46,363 --> 02:59:48,363 Next slide please. 4492 02:59:51,360 --> 02:59:51,736 I've always turned them down 4493 02:59:51,736 --> 02:59:52,369 because I believe the parking 4494 02:59:52,369 --> 02:59:55,369 spaces should be deemed to 4495 02:59:56,407 --> 02:59:56,775 the residents who have first 4496 02:59:56,775 --> 02:59:57,408 priority. 4497 02:59:57,408 --> 02:59:59,808 But the neighborhood does 4498 03:00:00,440 --> 03:00:00,712 desperately need more parking. 4499 03:00:00,712 --> 03:00:02,712 Next slide, please. 4500 03:00:06,684 --> 03:00:07,419 There was a widespread 4501 03:00:07,419 --> 03:00:10,419 discussion of disclosure of all 4502 03:00:11,590 --> 03:00:11,890 manner of fees timing, purpose 4503 03:00:11,890 --> 03:00:12,557 . 4504 03:00:12,557 --> 03:00:12,857 >> That does conclude your 4505 03:00:12,857 --> 03:00:13,225 time. 4506 03:00:13,225 --> 03:00:15,225 Thank you. 4507 03:00:17,662 --> 03:00:17,996 Fast forward to the last slide 4508 03:00:17,996 --> 03:00:18,463 . 4509 03:00:18,463 --> 03:00:19,164 I'm sorry, sir. 4510 03:00:19,164 --> 03:00:22,164 That does conclude your time. 4511 03:00:28,340 --> 03:00:29,274 We want to move on. 4512 03:00:29,274 --> 03:00:29,975 >> I want to go after that. 4513 03:00:29,975 --> 03:00:30,342 Our next speaker is Stephanie 4514 03:00:30,342 --> 03:00:32,342 Benvenuto. 4515 03:00:34,579 --> 03:00:35,800 Stephanie, you have four people 4516 03:00:35,800 --> 03:00:35,780 sitting your time. 4517 03:00:35,780 --> 03:00:36,248 When I call your name, please 4518 03:00:36,248 --> 03:00:38,248 raise your hand. 4519 03:00:39,718 --> 03:00:40,485 Matt Aubrey. 4520 03:00:40,485 --> 03:00:40,785 I didn't make it in time. 4521 03:00:40,785 --> 03:00:42,785 Okay. 4522 03:00:43,687 --> 03:00:45,687 James Lawson. 4523 03:00:49,795 --> 03:00:50,161 Ilya Ramirez. 4524 03:00:50,161 --> 03:00:52,161 No. 4525 03:00:55,534 --> 03:00:55,868 And Crystal Valentine. 4526 03:00:55,868 --> 03:00:56,167 Crystal. 4527 03:00:56,167 --> 03:00:58,167 Okay. 4528 03:01:00,739 --> 03:01:01,139 You will have two minutes. 4529 03:01:01,139 --> 03:01:01,439 >> Okay. 4530 03:01:01,439 --> 03:01:01,807 Cool. 4531 03:01:01,807 --> 03:01:02,541 Thank you. 4532 03:01:02,541 --> 03:01:04,941 My name's Stephanie Benvenuto. 4533 03:01:05,710 --> 03:01:06,311 I'm here on behalf of the San 4534 03:01:06,311 --> 03:01:06,945 Diego Building Industry 4535 03:01:06,945 --> 03:01:07,546 Association and I want to 4536 03:01:07,546 --> 03:01:09,546 respectfully oppose this 4537 03:01:10,782 --> 03:01:11,583 proposal. 4538 03:01:11,583 --> 03:01:12,317 I'll start by recommitting to 4539 03:01:12,317 --> 03:01:13,180 the goal that we share with you 4540 03:01:13,180 --> 03:01:13,718 all which is adding more homes 4541 03:01:13,718 --> 03:01:16,455 to our stock, thereby lowering 4542 03:01:16,455 --> 03:01:17,122 the costs. 4543 03:01:17,122 --> 03:01:17,856 We have significant concerns 4544 03:01:17,856 --> 03:01:18,590 with this policy one because we 4545 03:01:18,590 --> 03:01:19,290 believe it will be difficult to 4546 03:01:19,290 --> 03:01:21,690 enact but secondarily because 4547 03:01:21,926 --> 03:01:22,661 we think it jeopardizes 4548 03:01:22,661 --> 03:01:23,610 investment that is necessary to 4549 03:01:23,610 --> 03:01:23,695 build homes. 4550 03:01:23,695 --> 03:01:26,695 We are very interested in 4551 03:01:28,233 --> 03:01:28,834 the transparency item we do 4552 03:01:28,834 --> 03:01:29,535 believe that that is a 4553 03:01:29,535 --> 03:01:30,168 component that we can support 4554 03:01:30,168 --> 03:01:30,869 and that is best practice. 4555 03:01:30,869 --> 03:01:31,169 Many of our members already do 4556 03:01:31,169 --> 03:01:33,169 that. 4557 03:01:34,105 --> 03:01:34,806 Fundamentally the problem with 4558 03:01:34,806 --> 03:01:35,507 the capital investment is that 4559 03:01:35,507 --> 03:01:36,108 these homes don't get built by 4560 03:01:36,108 --> 03:01:38,108 one wealthy individual. 4561 03:01:39,978 --> 03:01:40,713 We have to go to a market that 4562 03:01:40,713 --> 03:01:41,446 markets that the rate of return 4563 03:01:41,446 --> 03:01:42,114 that rate of return is only met 4564 03:01:42,114 --> 03:01:45,500 when people can recoup their 4565 03:01:45,500 --> 03:01:45,717 cost of housing. 4566 03:01:45,717 --> 03:01:46,418 This policy jeopardizes that 4567 03:01:46,418 --> 03:01:47,152 with a more blanket approach. 4568 03:01:47,152 --> 03:01:51,290 We think that there is far more 4569 03:01:51,290 --> 03:01:51,924 room to continue to working 4570 03:01:51,924 --> 03:01:52,624 with the authors office to 4571 03:01:52,624 --> 03:01:53,225 identify something that's more 4572 03:01:53,225 --> 03:01:55,225 functional, that avoids 4573 03:01:56,595 --> 03:01:57,296 unintended consequences and 4574 03:01:57,296 --> 03:01:58,300 that creates enough supply so 4575 03:01:58,300 --> 03:01:58,631 that people have the options of 4576 03:01:58,631 --> 03:02:01,310 where they live thereby 4577 03:02:02,801 --> 03:02:03,502 limiting predatory behavior 4578 03:02:03,502 --> 03:02:04,136 like what we're seeing and 4579 03:02:04,136 --> 03:02:04,837 hearing so much of today. 4580 03:02:04,837 --> 03:02:05,537 So again we ask for additional 4581 03:02:05,537 --> 03:02:08,641 time to work with the author. 4582 03:02:08,641 --> 03:02:09,341 We hope that our considerations 4583 03:02:09,341 --> 03:02:09,708 are an unintended consequences 4584 03:02:09,708 --> 03:02:10,408 are heard. 4585 03:02:10,408 --> 03:02:11,110 We did submit a letter to you 4586 03:02:11,110 --> 03:02:14,110 all highlighting some of those 4587 03:02:15,140 --> 03:02:15,714 and we will be available for 4588 03:02:15,714 --> 03:02:16,148 further discussion with you in 4589 03:02:16,148 --> 03:02:16,515 your offices. 4590 03:02:16,515 --> 03:02:18,515 Thank you. 4591 03:02:21,850 --> 03:02:23,850 Thank you. 4592 03:02:26,158 --> 03:02:26,458 Our next speaker is Susan Ellis 4593 03:02:26,458 --> 03:02:27,193 . 4594 03:02:27,193 --> 03:02:27,459 >> One minute please begin. 4595 03:02:27,459 --> 03:02:28,600 Hi. 4596 03:02:28,600 --> 03:02:28,394 Good afternoon, Council 4597 03:02:28,394 --> 03:02:30,394 members. 4598 03:02:32,197 --> 03:02:32,932 My name is Susan Ornelas and 4599 03:02:32,932 --> 03:02:33,532 I'm a junior studying political 4600 03:02:33,532 --> 03:02:33,933 science at Phenix State 4601 03:02:33,933 --> 03:02:34,633 University. 4602 03:02:34,633 --> 03:02:38,833 I grew up in an apartment with 4603 03:02:39,400 --> 03:02:39,605 my siblings where my mom who 4604 03:02:39,605 --> 03:02:40,239 was a single parent and 4605 03:02:40,239 --> 03:02:40,973 the head of our household 4606 03:02:40,973 --> 03:02:41,340 worked hard to keep a roof over 4607 03:02:41,340 --> 03:02:43,340 our head. 4608 03:02:45,244 --> 03:02:45,978 As a child I remember the worry 4609 03:02:45,978 --> 03:02:46,445 on my mom's face every time our 4610 03:02:46,445 --> 03:02:48,445 rent increased. 4611 03:02:49,281 --> 03:02:49,882 So whether it was $50 or $100 4612 03:02:49,882 --> 03:02:50,486 and at the time I didn't 4613 03:02:50,486 --> 03:02:51,150 understand the numbers. 4614 03:02:51,150 --> 03:02:54,750 I just knew our whole family 4615 03:02:54,987 --> 03:02:55,721 carried that stress. 4616 03:02:55,721 --> 03:02:56,287 Families deserve stability, not 4617 03:02:56,287 --> 03:02:56,955 uncertainty requiring 4618 03:02:56,955 --> 03:02:58,955 transparency and protecting 4619 03:03:01,930 --> 03:03:01,726 renters from unnecessary 4620 03:03:01,726 --> 03:03:02,327 charges help families plan 4621 03:03:02,327 --> 03:03:03,290 budget and stay housed. 4622 03:03:03,290 --> 03:03:05,429 Please support this ordinance 4623 03:03:06,665 --> 03:03:07,133 and help make renting more fair 4624 03:03:07,133 --> 03:03:07,833 and transparent. 4625 03:03:07,833 --> 03:03:08,134 >> Thank you so much for your 4626 03:03:08,134 --> 03:03:10,134 time. 4627 03:03:12,638 --> 03:03:13,339 Thank you. 4628 03:03:13,339 --> 03:03:13,940 Our next speaker is Sheila 4629 03:03:13,940 --> 03:03:16,340 Barefoot and followed by 4630 03:03:19,111 --> 03:03:19,779 Michelle of Finland, Joni 4631 03:03:19,779 --> 03:03:22,179 Halpern, Caitlin McQuade and 4632 03:03:25,618 --> 03:03:26,385 Annette Cabinet. 4633 03:03:26,385 --> 03:03:27,530 >> Please come forward to 4634 03:03:27,530 --> 03:03:27,353 the front row to be ready to 4635 03:03:27,353 --> 03:03:29,353 speak. 4636 03:03:31,491 --> 03:03:32,191 Sheila as she's coming up I 4637 03:03:32,191 --> 03:03:32,892 can't figure out there's a lot 4638 03:03:32,892 --> 03:03:35,361 of people probably in an hour 4639 03:03:35,361 --> 03:03:36,280 in chambers for the very first 4640 03:03:36,280 --> 03:03:36,728 time so we have a certain 4641 03:03:36,728 --> 03:03:39,128 decorum rather than doing 4642 03:03:41,167 --> 03:03:41,868 clapping. 4643 03:03:41,868 --> 03:03:42,535 Whether you agree or disagree 4644 03:03:42,535 --> 03:03:43,202 comes up if you agree with 4645 03:03:43,202 --> 03:03:46,202 the speaker you want to 4646 03:03:47,340 --> 03:03:48,700 indicate that to the council. 4647 03:03:48,700 --> 03:03:48,708 Thumbs down if you disagree. 4648 03:03:48,708 --> 03:03:49,208 And that allows us to keep 4649 03:03:49,208 --> 03:03:51,208 the meeting going. 4650 03:03:53,645 --> 03:03:54,800 So thank you very much for 4651 03:03:54,800 --> 03:03:54,714 the courtesy. 4652 03:03:54,714 --> 03:03:55,480 >> Good afternoon, Council 4653 03:03:55,480 --> 03:03:57,480 members. 4654 03:03:59,850 --> 03:03:59,953 My name is Sheila Barefoot. 4655 03:03:59,953 --> 03:04:00,620 I'm a San Diego resident, a 4656 03:04:00,620 --> 03:04:00,920 renter and a member of Human 4657 03:04:00,920 --> 03:04:02,920 Right. 4658 03:04:05,258 --> 03:04:05,992 I'm here today asking you to 4659 03:04:05,992 --> 03:04:06,626 support the junk fee ordinance. 4660 03:04:06,626 --> 03:04:07,260 As someone who experienced 4661 03:04:07,260 --> 03:04:09,660 homelessness myself I can 4662 03:04:11,698 --> 03:04:12,165 attest the difficulties of 4663 03:04:12,165 --> 03:04:12,865 finding shelter. 4664 03:04:12,865 --> 03:04:16,465 Not only is it the relentless 4665 03:04:17,103 --> 03:04:17,804 rising costs of rent but 4666 03:04:17,804 --> 03:04:18,438 the unpredictability factor of 4667 03:04:18,438 --> 03:04:19,105 junk food that makes it a 4668 03:04:19,105 --> 03:04:22,105 burden on San Diego Renters 4669 03:04:23,176 --> 03:04:24,109 like myself. 4670 03:04:24,109 --> 03:04:24,810 It was a hard climb back to 4671 03:04:24,810 --> 03:04:25,411 being housed and the pressure 4672 03:04:25,411 --> 03:04:28,411 of junk fees makes it 4673 03:04:30,150 --> 03:04:30,849 unpredictable as I do have 4674 03:04:30,849 --> 03:04:31,184 trash and sewer fees added to 4675 03:04:31,184 --> 03:04:31,918 my rent. 4676 03:04:31,918 --> 03:04:35,518 Many in our community who are 4677 03:04:35,989 --> 03:04:36,623 seeking housing after 4678 03:04:36,623 --> 03:04:37,290 homelessness not only find 4679 03:04:37,290 --> 03:04:39,690 affordability a blockade but 4680 03:04:41,794 --> 03:04:42,361 additional junk fees make it 4681 03:04:42,361 --> 03:04:43,610 even more burdensome. 4682 03:04:43,610 --> 03:04:43,596 Those who live on fixed or 4683 03:04:43,596 --> 03:04:44,640 strict budgets need 4684 03:04:44,640 --> 03:04:46,640 predictability. 4685 03:04:48,134 --> 03:04:48,768 This ordinance will stop 4686 03:04:48,768 --> 03:04:49,202 the exploitation and bring 4687 03:04:49,202 --> 03:04:49,869 transparency. 4688 03:04:49,869 --> 03:04:53,469 Again, I urge you to support 4689 03:04:53,473 --> 03:04:54,107 the junk fee ordinance. 4690 03:04:54,107 --> 03:04:54,507 Thank you for your time. 4691 03:04:54,507 --> 03:04:55,375 Thank you. 4692 03:04:55,375 --> 03:04:58,375 Our next speaker is Michelle 4693 03:05:00,914 --> 03:05:01,681 Fenlon. 4694 03:05:01,681 --> 03:05:02,382 Michelle, you have time to buy 4695 03:05:02,382 --> 03:05:05,318 Juliet to Juliet Take advice. 4696 03:05:05,318 --> 03:05:05,919 Okay, great. 4697 03:05:05,919 --> 03:05:06,353 You'll have two minutes. 4698 03:05:06,353 --> 03:05:06,953 Please begin. 4699 03:05:06,953 --> 03:05:07,286 Good afternoon, council 4700 03:05:07,286 --> 03:05:08,210 members. 4701 03:05:08,210 --> 03:05:11,621 My name is Michelle Finland and 4702 03:05:12,625 --> 03:05:12,959 I'm an advocate with the Heat 4703 03:05:12,959 --> 03:05:13,693 network. 4704 03:05:13,693 --> 03:05:14,393 I'm here to urge your full and 4705 03:05:14,393 --> 03:05:14,761 urgent support of the junk fee 4706 03:05:14,761 --> 03:05:16,761 ordinance. 4707 03:05:17,898 --> 03:05:18,565 I became homeless in 2022 after 4708 03:05:18,565 --> 03:05:19,266 fleeing a domestic violence 4709 03:05:19,266 --> 03:05:19,799 situation and I remained that 4710 03:05:19,799 --> 03:05:22,199 way for three years. 4711 03:05:23,937 --> 03:05:24,538 I went from owning a thriving 4712 03:05:24,538 --> 03:05:25,238 business and living in a 4713 03:05:25,238 --> 03:05:27,638 beautiful apartment to working 4714 03:05:29,442 --> 03:05:30,143 multiple service industry jobs 4715 03:05:30,143 --> 03:05:30,910 while living out of my car. 4716 03:05:30,910 --> 03:05:33,310 When you're homeless or 4717 03:05:35,782 --> 03:05:36,516 exhausted, you're absolutely 4718 03:05:36,516 --> 03:05:37,217 hungry and you're depressed and 4719 03:05:37,217 --> 03:05:37,951 you're saving every last penny 4720 03:05:37,951 --> 03:05:41,287 just to be able to rebuild your 4721 03:05:41,287 --> 03:05:42,122 stability. 4722 03:05:42,122 --> 03:05:42,822 Saving for a deposit became one 4723 03:05:42,822 --> 03:05:46,422 of my last worries when I 4724 03:05:47,994 --> 03:05:48,795 finally started applying for 4725 03:05:48,795 --> 03:05:49,429 permits I hit a brick wall of 4726 03:05:49,429 --> 03:05:51,829 predatory and hidden fees. 4727 03:05:53,633 --> 03:05:54,267 I was really devastated to find 4728 03:05:54,267 --> 03:05:54,801 out exactly how misleading 4729 03:05:54,801 --> 03:05:56,801 advertisements were. 4730 03:05:59,539 --> 03:06:00,206 Landlords are tacking on 4731 03:06:00,206 --> 03:06:00,907 additional application fees. 4732 03:06:00,907 --> 03:06:01,642 There's hidden administrative 4733 03:06:01,642 --> 03:06:05,242 charges and every single time I 4734 03:06:05,846 --> 03:06:06,546 thought I was going to get 4735 03:06:06,546 --> 03:06:07,147 housed a rock would get pulled 4736 03:06:07,147 --> 03:06:07,881 out from underneath me. 4737 03:06:07,881 --> 03:06:11,885 When you are homeless or out of 4738 03:06:11,885 --> 03:06:12,786 cash poor in general which a 4739 03:06:12,786 --> 03:06:13,420 lot of us are now 50 to $100 in 4740 03:06:13,420 --> 03:06:13,854 unexpected fees is not an 4741 03:06:13,854 --> 03:06:15,854 inconvenience. 4742 03:06:21,395 --> 03:06:22,290 It's a barrier to safety. 4743 03:06:22,290 --> 03:06:22,728 >> This ordinance directly 4744 03:06:22,728 --> 03:06:23,397 solves the exact barriers that 4745 03:06:23,397 --> 03:06:23,830 I was facing when trying to 4746 03:06:23,830 --> 03:06:25,830 find housing. 4747 03:06:27,000 --> 03:06:27,701 This allows transparency and 4748 03:06:27,701 --> 03:06:28,367 advertisements and allows for 4749 03:06:28,367 --> 03:06:31,367 applicants to be used Their 4750 03:06:33,400 --> 03:06:33,774 screening processes so that 4751 03:06:33,774 --> 03:06:34,508 they don't have to keep paying. 4752 03:06:34,508 --> 03:06:35,208 I never overcame these hurdles. 4753 03:06:35,208 --> 03:06:38,808 I just find ways around them. 4754 03:06:39,120 --> 03:06:39,680 I lived off grid in a tiny home 4755 03:06:39,680 --> 03:06:40,380 and now I'm renting from a 4756 03:06:40,380 --> 03:06:43,380 religious cult so not ideal. 4757 03:06:44,718 --> 03:06:45,452 This ordinance provides 4758 03:06:45,452 --> 03:06:45,852 predictability that people need 4759 03:06:45,852 --> 03:06:47,852 to survive. 4760 03:06:51,930 --> 03:06:51,792 I really hope that you take 4761 03:06:51,792 --> 03:06:52,492 this into consideration and I 4762 03:06:52,492 --> 03:06:56,920 really hope that you push this 4763 03:06:56,129 --> 03:06:56,864 forward to help protect 4764 03:06:56,864 --> 03:06:57,530 thousands of families and it'll 4765 03:06:57,530 --> 03:06:58,650 help find housing or keep a 4766 03:06:58,650 --> 03:07:00,465 place to call home. 4767 03:07:01,935 --> 03:07:02,536 Thank you so much. 4768 03:07:02,536 --> 03:07:03,203 >> Thank you. 4769 03:07:03,203 --> 03:07:03,537 Our next speaker is Joni 4770 03:07:03,537 --> 03:07:05,537 Halpern. 4771 03:07:08,976 --> 03:07:09,677 Joni, you have time ceded to 4772 03:07:09,677 --> 03:07:10,377 you by the following people If 4773 03:07:10,377 --> 03:07:10,878 you could raise your hand when 4774 03:07:10,878 --> 03:07:11,178 I call your name. 4775 03:07:11,178 --> 03:07:13,178 Layla. 4776 03:07:15,282 --> 03:07:15,848 Layla Thank you. 4777 03:07:15,848 --> 03:07:18,248 And hinder to hero. 4778 03:07:21,210 --> 03:07:21,422 Okay. 4779 03:07:21,422 --> 03:07:21,822 And Patrice. 4780 03:07:21,822 --> 03:07:22,189 Okay, great. 4781 03:07:22,189 --> 03:07:22,590 Thank you. 4782 03:07:22,590 --> 03:07:24,590 Go ahead. 4783 03:07:25,125 --> 03:07:25,593 You will have four minutes. 4784 03:07:25,593 --> 03:07:26,560 Good afternoon. 4785 03:07:26,560 --> 03:07:30,760 My name is Joni Halper and I 4786 03:07:31,365 --> 03:07:31,899 work as a lawyer at 4787 03:07:31,899 --> 03:07:32,466 the Partnership for 4788 03:07:32,466 --> 03:07:32,833 the Advancement of New 4789 03:07:32,833 --> 03:07:33,501 Americans. 4790 03:07:33,501 --> 03:07:36,369 We serve immigrants who are 4791 03:07:36,369 --> 03:07:37,170 some of the hardest working 4792 03:07:37,170 --> 03:07:37,638 people earning at the bottom of 4793 03:07:37,638 --> 03:07:38,205 the wage scale. 4794 03:07:38,205 --> 03:07:38,572 And their work is very 4795 03:07:38,572 --> 03:07:40,572 important. 4796 03:07:42,209 --> 03:07:42,777 They're the ones who care for 4797 03:07:42,777 --> 03:07:43,144 the sick, the elderly, 4798 03:07:43,144 --> 03:07:43,711 the kids. 4799 03:07:43,711 --> 03:07:44,378 They clean hotels and 4800 03:07:44,378 --> 03:07:46,378 hospitals, office buildings, 4801 03:07:48,820 --> 03:07:48,849 houses. 4802 03:07:48,849 --> 03:07:49,483 They take every job that 4803 03:07:49,483 --> 03:07:50,117 requires strong hands and 4804 03:07:50,117 --> 03:07:53,117 strong back and they don't 4805 03:07:54,188 --> 03:07:54,955 complain. 4806 03:07:54,955 --> 03:07:55,556 They're all struggling to keep 4807 03:07:55,556 --> 03:07:56,257 a roof over their heads. 4808 03:07:56,257 --> 03:07:59,857 But it's not just the high 4809 03:08:00,594 --> 03:08:00,995 rents that are making it 4810 03:08:00,995 --> 03:08:01,662 impossible. 4811 03:08:01,662 --> 03:08:02,363 All over the city there are 4812 03:08:02,363 --> 03:08:05,363 investors small and large who 4813 03:08:06,967 --> 03:08:07,668 capture properties jack up 4814 03:08:07,668 --> 03:08:08,269 rents and institute institute 4815 03:08:08,269 --> 03:08:10,669 fees for everything from 4816 03:08:12,773 --> 03:08:13,474 failure to clean a garbage can 4817 03:08:13,474 --> 03:08:14,175 to fines for children playing 4818 03:08:14,175 --> 03:08:17,775 in common areas of a complex. 4819 03:08:18,379 --> 03:08:19,113 Some of these fees are in 4820 03:08:19,113 --> 03:08:19,814 the lease buried in legalese in 4821 03:08:19,814 --> 03:08:20,181 30 pages in the back parts of 4822 03:08:20,181 --> 03:08:22,181 the lease. 4823 03:08:24,318 --> 03:08:25,190 And they're imposed. 4824 03:08:25,190 --> 03:08:25,753 The problem is they're imposed 4825 03:08:25,753 --> 03:08:28,753 without merit and tenants can't 4826 03:08:29,156 --> 03:08:29,590 fight back because they fear 4827 03:08:29,590 --> 03:08:30,258 retaliation. 4828 03:08:30,258 --> 03:08:30,958 There are fees for trashcan 4829 03:08:30,958 --> 03:08:33,358 breakage or replacement smoke 4830 03:08:36,964 --> 03:08:37,632 alarm tampering, wrecking walk 4831 03:08:37,632 --> 03:08:38,199 replacement repairs vacancy 4832 03:08:38,199 --> 03:08:40,199 recovery lease buyout 4833 03:08:41,636 --> 03:08:42,403 dishonored payments, late rent 4834 03:08:42,403 --> 03:08:43,104 using a common area parking on 4835 03:08:43,104 --> 03:08:46,104 the premises storage and more. 4836 03:08:47,909 --> 03:08:48,609 If someone pays their rent on 4837 03:08:48,609 --> 03:08:49,243 time but it's processed beyond 4838 03:08:49,243 --> 03:08:49,777 the due date the tenant is 4839 03:08:49,777 --> 03:08:52,177 charged a late fee. 4840 03:08:54,820 --> 03:08:54,816 If a lock zinc toilet appliance 4841 03:08:54,816 --> 03:08:55,516 that never worked right finally 4842 03:08:55,516 --> 03:08:58,516 breaks the tenant is charged. 4843 03:09:00,210 --> 03:09:00,687 And there are administrative 4844 03:09:00,687 --> 03:09:01,356 fees that keep going up for 4845 03:09:01,356 --> 03:09:03,756 racial utility billing when 4846 03:09:05,927 --> 03:09:06,561 people move out or evicted 4847 03:09:06,561 --> 03:09:07,128 because they can't afford 4848 03:09:07,128 --> 03:09:07,796 the rent and the fees. 4849 03:09:07,796 --> 03:09:10,196 Many property owners charge 4850 03:09:11,633 --> 03:09:12,333 tenants for repairs and 4851 03:09:12,333 --> 03:09:12,934 replacement costs so extensive 4852 03:09:12,934 --> 03:09:15,934 they amount to nearly a 4853 03:09:17,710 --> 03:09:17,839 renovation of the entire unit. 4854 03:09:17,839 --> 03:09:18,540 An example is a family that 4855 03:09:18,540 --> 03:09:22,140 came to me with a debt 4856 03:09:22,877 --> 03:09:23,578 collection letter for charges 4857 03:09:23,578 --> 03:09:24,245 imposed by the property owner. 4858 03:09:24,245 --> 03:09:24,912 After they moved they moved 4859 03:09:24,912 --> 03:09:27,912 into the unit with sluggish 4860 03:09:29,651 --> 03:09:30,351 sink drains a stove in an oven 4861 03:09:30,351 --> 03:09:33,351 that didn't work Cabinet doors 4862 03:09:34,622 --> 03:09:35,356 falling off moldy bathroom 4863 03:09:35,356 --> 03:09:35,990 floors and vertical blinds that 4864 03:09:35,990 --> 03:09:36,523 you couldn't open because 4865 03:09:36,523 --> 03:09:38,923 the panels fell out. 4866 03:09:40,695 --> 03:09:41,429 But when they moved out they 4867 03:09:41,429 --> 03:09:42,630 were charged for replacement of 4868 03:09:42,630 --> 03:09:42,697 all flooring countertops, 4869 03:09:42,697 --> 03:09:44,697 appliances, paint, window 4870 03:09:46,468 --> 03:09:46,801 coverings totaling more than 4871 03:09:46,801 --> 03:09:47,502 $20,000. 4872 03:09:47,502 --> 03:09:50,502 This allowed the landlords to 4873 03:09:52,474 --> 03:09:53,174 keep the security deposit and 4874 03:09:53,174 --> 03:09:53,875 then build a tenant for extra 4875 03:09:53,875 --> 03:09:54,542 repairs and replacement costs. 4876 03:09:54,542 --> 03:09:57,542 And when the tenant couldn't 4877 03:09:58,980 --> 03:09:59,647 pay the landlord sold the debt 4878 03:09:59,647 --> 03:10:00,248 to the collection agency and 4879 03:10:00,248 --> 03:10:00,582 this was reported on his 4880 03:10:00,582 --> 03:10:02,582 credit. 4881 03:10:04,986 --> 03:10:05,553 Something has to be done to 4882 03:10:05,553 --> 03:10:06,221 stop these practices. 4883 03:10:06,221 --> 03:10:09,221 My clients can't easily find 4884 03:10:10,592 --> 03:10:11,392 another place to live. 4885 03:10:11,392 --> 03:10:12,127 They end up subletting with 4886 03:10:12,127 --> 03:10:15,127 whole families crammed into one 4887 03:10:16,664 --> 03:10:17,432 room renting porches and sheds. 4888 03:10:17,432 --> 03:10:17,999 They sleep in cars and some 4889 03:10:17,999 --> 03:10:18,700 sleep on the floors of 4890 03:10:18,700 --> 03:10:21,700 neighbors and friends and they 4891 03:10:23,370 --> 03:10:24,105 have to move every two weeks. 4892 03:10:24,105 --> 03:10:24,806 Try being old or sick or 4893 03:10:24,806 --> 03:10:27,806 disabled and living like that 4894 03:10:28,676 --> 03:10:28,977 or dragging your kids through 4895 03:10:28,977 --> 03:10:29,611 this. 4896 03:10:29,611 --> 03:10:32,110 The annual homeless street 4897 03:10:35,216 --> 03:10:35,884 count does not even begin to 4898 03:10:35,884 --> 03:10:36,618 show the scope of people who 4899 03:10:36,618 --> 03:10:40,218 have no adequate housing due to 4900 03:10:40,855 --> 03:10:41,256 fees that have shifted to 4901 03:10:41,256 --> 03:10:41,989 the tenants. 4902 03:10:41,989 --> 03:10:42,657 The investor's risk of loss and 4903 03:10:42,657 --> 03:10:42,991 the burden of ensuring their 4904 03:10:42,991 --> 03:10:44,991 profit. 4905 03:10:47,829 --> 03:10:48,463 This ordinance is a good start 4906 03:10:48,463 --> 03:10:51,463 at reining in these fees. 4907 03:10:52,000 --> 03:10:52,366 >> Thank you. 4908 03:10:52,366 --> 03:10:53,235 Thank you. 4909 03:10:53,235 --> 03:10:56,235 Our next speaker is Caitlin 4910 03:10:57,872 --> 03:10:58,607 McQuade. 4911 03:10:58,607 --> 03:11:01,700 Good afternoon council members. 4912 03:11:04,646 --> 03:11:05,413 My name is Caitlin McQuade. 4913 03:11:05,413 --> 03:11:06,114 I'm a lifelong San Diego and 4914 03:11:06,114 --> 03:11:06,447 I'm a renter and I'm a single 4915 03:11:06,447 --> 03:11:08,447 mother. 4916 03:11:11,860 --> 03:11:11,553 I know how quickly housing can 4917 03:11:11,553 --> 03:11:12,254 become unstable. 4918 03:11:12,254 --> 03:11:12,921 I've experienced homelessness 4919 03:11:12,921 --> 03:11:16,521 and today the only reason my 4920 03:11:16,959 --> 03:11:17,692 family is housed is because a 4921 03:11:17,692 --> 03:11:18,360 relative brings us our home for 4922 03:11:18,360 --> 03:11:20,760 an incredibly reduced rent. 4923 03:11:22,731 --> 03:11:23,398 Even with that support we are 4924 03:11:23,398 --> 03:11:25,798 still one unexpected expense 4925 03:11:28,537 --> 03:11:29,304 away from losing everything. 4926 03:11:29,304 --> 03:11:29,938 That's why junk fees matter 4927 03:11:29,938 --> 03:11:30,605 when families are already 4928 03:11:30,605 --> 03:11:32,605 choosing between groceries, 4929 03:11:34,443 --> 03:11:35,770 child care and keeping 4930 03:11:35,770 --> 03:11:35,810 the lights on a surprising 4931 03:11:35,810 --> 03:11:36,445 house b can be the expense that 4932 03:11:36,445 --> 03:11:39,445 pushes them over the edge. 4933 03:11:40,382 --> 03:11:41,116 Renters deserve to know 4934 03:11:41,116 --> 03:11:41,850 the true cost of housing before 4935 03:11:41,850 --> 03:11:45,450 they sign a lease, not after 4936 03:11:46,455 --> 03:11:47,122 price. 4937 03:11:47,122 --> 03:11:47,756 Transparency and limits on 4938 03:11:47,756 --> 03:11:48,489 unnecessary fees will help 4939 03:11:48,489 --> 03:11:51,489 families budget stay housed and 4940 03:11:52,940 --> 03:11:52,795 to avoid homelessness. 4941 03:11:52,795 --> 03:11:53,162 I urge you to support this 4942 03:11:53,162 --> 03:11:53,528 ordinance. 4943 03:11:53,528 --> 03:11:55,528 Thank you. 4944 03:11:59,334 --> 03:12:00,200 Thank you. 4945 03:12:00,200 --> 03:12:00,368 Our next speaker is Annette 4946 03:12:00,368 --> 03:12:01,360 Cardenas. 4947 03:12:01,360 --> 03:12:01,436 Well approach the microphone 4948 03:12:01,436 --> 03:12:03,436 could help. 4949 03:12:05,740 --> 03:12:05,407 Del Mastro am I right? 4950 03:12:05,407 --> 03:12:07,407 Exactly. 4951 03:12:10,646 --> 03:12:11,246 Lucky Aiden and Leo Rossman 4952 03:12:11,246 --> 03:12:13,646 please come forward to 4953 03:12:16,118 --> 03:12:16,518 the front room and you'll have 4954 03:12:16,518 --> 03:12:16,952 one minute. 4955 03:12:16,952 --> 03:12:17,553 Please begin. 4956 03:12:17,553 --> 03:12:17,887 Good afternoon, Council 4957 03:12:17,887 --> 03:12:19,887 members. 4958 03:12:21,657 --> 03:12:22,324 My name is Annette Cabinets and 4959 03:12:22,324 --> 03:12:23,250 I'm here today with the Hill 4960 03:12:23,250 --> 03:12:26,625 Network in support of the junk 4961 03:12:28,864 --> 03:12:29,732 fee Ordinance Check Ordinance v 4962 03:12:29,732 --> 03:12:33,269 excuse me San Diego is the most 4963 03:12:33,269 --> 03:12:33,969 expensive city in the country 4964 03:12:33,969 --> 03:12:34,637 for many renters When expected 4965 03:12:34,637 --> 03:12:37,637 Bill can mean the difference 4966 03:12:39,608 --> 03:12:40,142 between staying housed and 4967 03:12:40,142 --> 03:12:41,900 facing homelessness. 4968 03:12:41,900 --> 03:12:44,980 I do do do know this because I 4969 03:12:44,980 --> 03:12:45,748 have been chronically homeless 4970 03:12:45,748 --> 03:12:49,348 in San Diego for some time 4971 03:12:51,220 --> 03:12:54,820 Recently my son just rented an 4972 03:12:55,291 --> 03:12:55,958 apartment and he had to pay out 4973 03:12:55,958 --> 03:12:58,358 about $160 just in screening 4974 03:13:00,128 --> 03:13:00,763 fees and he just applied to one 4975 03:13:00,763 --> 03:13:01,129 place before he had found 4976 03:13:01,129 --> 03:13:03,129 something. 4977 03:13:04,900 --> 03:13:05,568 But that's $160 That makes a 4978 03:13:05,568 --> 03:13:08,568 lot of difference in someone 4979 03:13:11,140 --> 03:13:14,140 who's on a restricted budget. 4980 03:13:16,879 --> 03:13:17,546 And not only are we seeing 4981 03:13:17,546 --> 03:13:18,130 the fees higher I'm sorry we 4982 03:13:18,130 --> 03:13:18,447 are also notice. 4983 03:13:18,447 --> 03:13:20,447 >> Thank you. 4984 03:13:23,418 --> 03:13:23,819 Thank you. 4985 03:13:23,819 --> 03:13:24,587 Thank you. 4986 03:13:24,587 --> 03:13:28,187 Our next speaker is our Dale 4987 03:13:30,893 --> 03:13:31,527 Mastro And now you have time 4988 03:13:31,527 --> 03:13:31,828 standing by Owen, Drew and 4989 03:13:31,828 --> 03:13:32,261 Nikki. 4990 03:13:32,261 --> 03:13:34,261 Okay, please. 4991 03:13:36,632 --> 03:13:36,932 Beginning of two minutes. 4992 03:13:36,932 --> 03:13:37,532 Hi. 4993 03:13:37,532 --> 03:13:37,967 My name's Eldon Mastro. 4994 03:13:37,967 --> 03:13:39,967 I'm a senior. 4995 03:13:40,803 --> 03:13:41,570 I'm an ex blue collar worker. 4996 03:13:41,570 --> 03:13:42,438 I'm a disabled veteran and yes, 4997 03:13:42,438 --> 03:13:46,380 I'm a small mom and pop 4998 03:13:46,876 --> 03:13:47,643 landlord. 4999 03:13:47,643 --> 03:13:48,311 This is another bias law that's 5000 03:13:48,311 --> 03:13:52,281 put in front of us the small 5001 03:13:52,281 --> 03:13:53,182 mom and pop landlords. 5002 03:13:53,182 --> 03:13:53,750 I mean you can hear how our 5003 03:13:53,750 --> 03:13:55,750 policies are personal. 5004 03:13:58,621 --> 03:13:59,288 We are with our tenants but 5005 03:13:59,288 --> 03:13:59,989 this bias opinion is when 5006 03:13:59,989 --> 03:14:03,589 you're driving it to be more 5007 03:14:03,860 --> 03:14:04,227 and more like corporate 5008 03:14:04,227 --> 03:14:04,961 landlords. 5009 03:14:04,961 --> 03:14:05,662 These actions dragged corporate 5010 03:14:05,662 --> 03:14:09,262 landlords so that we can't do 5011 03:14:09,765 --> 03:14:11,765 this right now. 5012 03:14:15,338 --> 03:14:16,390 Me and my wife are victim 2 to 5013 03:14:16,390 --> 03:14:16,739 1 of the professional tenants 5014 03:14:16,739 --> 03:14:17,407 because we took an application 5015 03:14:17,407 --> 03:14:21,700 that we believed to be true. 5016 03:14:21,577 --> 03:14:22,245 So right now we are we have to 5017 03:14:22,245 --> 03:14:22,845 turn this property over to a 5018 03:14:22,845 --> 03:14:25,245 property manager who has 5019 03:14:26,882 --> 03:14:27,550 attorneys that are doing this. 5020 03:14:27,550 --> 03:14:28,117 They're trying to help us 5021 03:14:28,117 --> 03:14:30,517 salvage what we have. 5022 03:14:33,790 --> 03:14:34,524 We my wife we decided to buy a 5023 03:14:34,524 --> 03:14:34,958 property 20 years ago and never 5024 03:14:34,958 --> 03:14:36,958 buy a home. 5025 03:14:39,195 --> 03:14:39,829 We bought a five plex that we 5026 03:14:39,829 --> 03:14:40,530 lived in in Claremont And 5027 03:14:40,530 --> 03:14:44,601 the deal is is that I do most 5028 03:14:44,601 --> 03:14:44,934 of the work is a blue collar 5029 03:14:44,934 --> 03:14:45,635 worker. 5030 03:14:45,635 --> 03:14:45,935 I work weekends, holidays, all 5031 03:14:45,935 --> 03:14:46,669 that. 5032 03:14:46,669 --> 03:14:50,269 They have a retirement of some 5033 03:14:51,700 --> 03:14:51,708 kind And for you guys to take 5034 03:14:51,708 --> 03:14:52,375 that away from me if I didn't 5035 03:14:52,375 --> 03:14:53,800 know that when I did this we 5036 03:14:53,800 --> 03:14:56,608 did just put the money in 5037 03:14:56,746 --> 03:14:57,447 the stock market Somebody other 5038 03:14:57,447 --> 03:14:57,847 You guys are rental properties 5039 03:14:57,847 --> 03:14:59,847 to the land. 5040 03:15:02,552 --> 03:15:03,153 The mom and pops are not 5041 03:15:03,153 --> 03:15:03,820 the bad ones in this. 5042 03:15:03,820 --> 03:15:04,420 I don't want to charge 5043 03:15:04,420 --> 03:15:05,221 the tenants water fees. 5044 03:15:05,221 --> 03:15:09,920 I don't want to charge them pet 5045 03:15:09,920 --> 03:15:09,960 fees. 5046 03:15:09,960 --> 03:15:10,660 You just take it away from me. 5047 03:15:10,660 --> 03:15:11,428 You say Hey you know you know 5048 03:15:11,428 --> 03:15:14,831 what units that we have because 5049 03:15:14,831 --> 03:15:15,532 we pay a rental fee then you 5050 03:15:15,532 --> 03:15:16,233 just say that apartment there 5051 03:15:16,233 --> 03:15:19,833 doesn't pay trash fees and we 5052 03:15:20,837 --> 03:15:21,538 will charge the tenants. 5053 03:15:21,538 --> 03:15:22,500 You take responsibility for 5054 03:15:22,500 --> 03:15:22,639 these decisions. 5055 03:15:22,639 --> 03:15:23,240 Same thing with the water. 5056 03:15:23,240 --> 03:15:26,240 We don't need to charge 5057 03:15:27,143 --> 03:15:27,677 the tenant water, make the city 5058 03:15:27,677 --> 03:15:28,378 pay for their water. 5059 03:15:28,378 --> 03:15:29,780 I don't have any problem with 5060 03:15:29,780 --> 03:15:33,490 that I'm sure No Mom and Pop 5061 03:15:33,490 --> 03:15:33,383 has any problem with that 5062 03:15:33,383 --> 03:15:34,117 either. 5063 03:15:34,117 --> 03:15:34,784 >> The thing is is that my 5064 03:15:34,784 --> 03:15:37,184 insurance has been canceled 5065 03:15:40,900 --> 03:15:40,399 four times in the last Thank 5066 03:15:40,399 --> 03:15:41,157 you. 5067 03:15:41,157 --> 03:15:41,858 That does conclude your time in 5068 03:15:41,858 --> 03:15:42,258 there and it bites and then 5069 03:15:42,258 --> 03:15:42,959 the lawsuit. 5070 03:15:42,959 --> 03:15:45,959 >> Our next speaker is humira 5071 03:15:48,798 --> 03:15:49,566 you Sophie One minute. 5072 03:15:49,566 --> 03:15:52,566 Good afternoon my name is 5073 03:15:54,671 --> 03:15:55,405 Humira Sophie with pana. 5074 03:15:55,405 --> 03:15:56,730 We all know that low income 5075 03:15:56,730 --> 03:15:56,673 families are struggling with 5076 03:15:56,673 --> 03:15:57,274 rent here in San Diego. 5077 03:15:57,274 --> 03:15:59,274 They're stretching their 5078 03:16:00,609 --> 03:16:01,178 pockets to afford the basic 5079 03:16:01,178 --> 03:16:01,878 necessity of shelter. 5080 03:16:01,878 --> 03:16:04,878 Community members come to pana 5081 03:16:07,500 --> 03:16:07,718 seeking assistance when they 5082 03:16:07,718 --> 03:16:08,418 thought they were paying one 5083 03:16:08,418 --> 03:16:09,850 thing for rent and all of a 5084 03:16:09,850 --> 03:16:12,850 sudden there's all of these 5085 03:16:12,956 --> 03:16:13,624 fees that they weren't aware of 5086 03:16:13,624 --> 03:16:13,924 and now they can't afford to 5087 03:16:13,924 --> 03:16:14,791 rent. 5088 03:16:14,791 --> 03:16:18,391 They can't afford rent and are 5089 03:16:18,395 --> 03:16:18,695 facing being evicted from their 5090 03:16:18,695 --> 03:16:19,363 homes. 5091 03:16:19,363 --> 03:16:19,996 My colleague Johnny Halpern 5092 03:16:19,996 --> 03:16:20,297 talked about many of these 5093 03:16:20,297 --> 03:16:22,297 cases. 5094 03:16:24,734 --> 03:16:25,501 She's inundated with these 5095 03:16:25,501 --> 03:16:26,203 types of cases that come to us 5096 03:16:26,203 --> 03:16:29,803 every single day and the city 5097 03:16:30,440 --> 03:16:30,774 must do more to protect tenants 5098 03:16:30,774 --> 03:16:31,475 . 5099 03:16:31,475 --> 03:16:32,176 This ordinance is necessary to 5100 03:16:32,176 --> 03:16:32,543 protect low income workers and 5101 03:16:32,543 --> 03:16:34,543 families. 5102 03:16:37,248 --> 03:16:37,915 Housing should be clear fair, 5103 03:16:37,915 --> 03:16:38,582 predictable, not filled with 5104 03:16:38,582 --> 03:16:39,249 hidden costs and fine print. 5105 03:16:39,249 --> 03:16:41,649 The proposed ordinance would 5106 03:16:44,688 --> 03:16:45,355 cap extra rental fee that no 5107 03:16:45,355 --> 03:16:46,230 more than 5% of monthly rent 5108 03:16:46,230 --> 03:16:49,623 This is needed so that San 5109 03:16:49,726 --> 03:16:50,160 Diego is going to have more 5110 03:16:50,160 --> 03:16:50,527 transparency. 5111 03:16:50,527 --> 03:16:50,893 Thank you. 5112 03:16:50,893 --> 03:16:52,893 Thank you. 5113 03:16:55,699 --> 03:16:56,200 Ed? 5114 03:16:56,200 --> 03:16:56,933 >> Good afternoon. 5115 03:16:56,933 --> 03:17:00,533 My name is Lucky with Pana. 5116 03:17:01,739 --> 03:17:02,372 I'm here in support of this 5117 03:17:02,372 --> 03:17:03,730 ordinance because everyone 5118 03:17:03,730 --> 03:17:03,807 deserves to know the true cost 5119 03:17:03,807 --> 03:17:07,407 of housing before making one of 5120 03:17:08,450 --> 03:17:08,579 the biggest financial decisions 5121 03:17:08,579 --> 03:17:09,179 of their lives. 5122 03:17:09,179 --> 03:17:09,880 Videos are really really 5123 03:17:09,880 --> 03:17:10,447 expensive and for many renters 5124 03:17:10,447 --> 03:17:12,847 a challenge isn't just 5125 03:17:14,518 --> 03:17:15,152 the monthly rent it's 5126 03:17:15,152 --> 03:17:15,886 the unexpected Fees appear 5127 03:17:15,886 --> 03:17:16,520 through the application process 5128 03:17:16,520 --> 03:17:19,520 or even after when they're 5129 03:17:20,591 --> 03:17:21,258 signing the lease that is 5130 03:17:21,258 --> 03:17:21,926 caused to make it harder for 5131 03:17:21,926 --> 03:17:24,326 individuals and families to 5132 03:17:25,729 --> 03:17:26,630 budget plan and secure stable 5133 03:17:26,630 --> 03:17:26,797 housing. 5134 03:17:26,797 --> 03:17:27,297 This mortgage is about fairness 5135 03:17:27,297 --> 03:17:29,297 and transparency. 5136 03:17:30,901 --> 03:17:31,602 It creates clear expectations 5137 03:17:31,602 --> 03:17:32,269 so that renters can make 5138 03:17:32,269 --> 03:17:32,969 informed decisions and help 5139 03:17:32,969 --> 03:17:35,969 ensure that advertised cost of 5140 03:17:37,207 --> 03:17:37,741 housing reflects what people 5141 03:17:37,741 --> 03:17:38,375 are actually paying. 5142 03:17:38,375 --> 03:17:38,976 A more transparent rental 5143 03:17:38,976 --> 03:17:41,376 market benefit not only 5144 03:17:42,780 --> 03:17:43,481 the renters but also those 5145 03:17:43,481 --> 03:17:44,115 responsible landlords who are 5146 03:17:44,115 --> 03:17:44,781 already operating fairly. 5147 03:17:44,781 --> 03:17:47,181 Everyone deserves access to 5148 03:17:49,420 --> 03:17:50,530 housing without worrying about 5149 03:17:50,530 --> 03:17:50,554 hidden costs or unexpected 5150 03:17:50,554 --> 03:17:51,222 financial burdens. 5151 03:17:51,222 --> 03:17:54,822 So I respectfully ask you to 5152 03:17:56,327 --> 03:17:56,727 support this ordinance. 5153 03:17:56,727 --> 03:17:57,127 Thank you. 5154 03:17:57,127 --> 03:17:58,162 Thank you. 5155 03:17:58,162 --> 03:18:02,362 So Leo, this man Leo comes to 5156 03:18:02,433 --> 03:18:03,367 the microphone. 5157 03:18:03,367 --> 03:18:03,733 >> Can I please have a good 5158 03:18:03,733 --> 03:18:04,268 afternoon? 5159 03:18:04,268 --> 03:18:06,268 Welcome to the. 5160 03:18:07,672 --> 03:18:08,339 I'm here today in support of 5161 03:18:08,339 --> 03:18:10,739 this ordinance because every 5162 03:18:12,877 --> 03:18:13,744 San Diego I'm sorry, sir. 5163 03:18:13,744 --> 03:18:14,345 You do have time ceded to you 5164 03:18:14,345 --> 03:18:15,780 by another individual. 5165 03:18:15,780 --> 03:18:18,678 I need to confirm they're here. 5166 03:18:19,717 --> 03:18:20,184 Jabbar Kasim, could you please 5167 03:18:20,184 --> 03:18:20,585 raise your hand? 5168 03:18:20,585 --> 03:18:22,585 Okay, great. 5169 03:18:26,900 --> 03:18:26,524 You'll have two minutes. 5170 03:18:26,524 --> 03:18:27,225 Please begin. 5171 03:18:27,225 --> 03:18:27,625 Hey, my name is Sali Osman. 5172 03:18:27,625 --> 03:18:29,625 I'm here. 5173 03:18:30,828 --> 03:18:31,596 I work until tonight. 5174 03:18:31,596 --> 03:18:35,196 I live in San Diego for 5175 03:18:37,168 --> 03:18:37,668 the last 18 years Ben Knight 5176 03:18:37,668 --> 03:18:38,269 The Arab League. 5177 03:18:38,269 --> 03:18:38,636 The cost of living plus 5178 03:18:38,636 --> 03:18:40,636 inflation. 5179 03:18:41,572 --> 03:18:42,507 Life is sort of it. 5180 03:18:42,507 --> 03:18:43,173 So I'm here today in support of 5181 03:18:43,173 --> 03:18:45,573 this ordinance because every 5182 03:18:47,545 --> 03:18:48,279 Sunday against this sort of 5183 03:18:48,279 --> 03:18:48,880 access to housing that is fair, 5184 03:18:48,880 --> 03:18:50,880 transparent, affordable 5185 03:18:53,184 --> 03:18:53,884 families should not have to 5186 03:18:53,884 --> 03:18:56,884 worry about a surprise charge 5187 03:18:58,489 --> 03:18:59,123 hidden fees or unclean rental 5188 03:18:59,123 --> 03:18:59,891 costs when they are simply 5189 03:18:59,891 --> 03:19:03,491 trying to find a stable place 5190 03:19:03,761 --> 03:19:04,595 to live. 5191 03:19:04,595 --> 03:19:08,195 San Diego must take a clear 5192 03:19:09,333 --> 03:19:10,340 stand for renters by making 5193 03:19:10,340 --> 03:19:13,340 sure housing costs are honest, 5194 03:19:15,840 --> 03:19:16,341 predictable and not inflated by 5195 03:19:16,341 --> 03:19:18,341 unfair junk fees. 5196 03:19:19,844 --> 03:19:20,511 San Diego is already one of 5197 03:19:20,511 --> 03:19:21,780 the most expensive place to 5198 03:19:21,780 --> 03:19:23,478 live in this country. 5199 03:19:25,550 --> 03:19:26,217 Many renters have been charged 5200 03:19:26,217 --> 03:19:26,517 extra fees on top of high 5201 03:19:26,517 --> 03:19:28,517 rents. 5202 03:19:31,422 --> 03:19:32,550 >> These fee cut include 5203 03:19:32,550 --> 03:19:34,550 processing fee convenience 5204 03:19:36,293 --> 03:19:36,995 fees, late fees, duplicate 5205 03:19:36,995 --> 03:19:39,395 application fees and surprise 5206 03:19:42,166 --> 03:19:42,467 charges after a lease is signed 5207 03:19:42,467 --> 03:19:43,134 . 5208 03:19:43,134 --> 03:19:45,534 Some renters listed listing 5209 03:19:47,572 --> 03:19:48,172 will not clearly show the full 5210 03:19:48,172 --> 03:19:49,400 cost of housing upfront. 5211 03:19:49,400 --> 03:19:52,640 Hidden fees can add hundreds of 5212 03:19:53,745 --> 03:19:54,112 dollars each month for working 5213 03:19:54,112 --> 03:19:56,112 families. 5214 03:19:58,383 --> 03:19:59,184 Renters deserve to know 5215 03:19:59,184 --> 03:20:03,384 the true cost of a home before 5216 03:20:04,722 --> 03:20:05,390 apply or sign a lease. 5217 03:20:05,390 --> 03:20:06,157 >> Housing should be clear, 5218 03:20:06,157 --> 03:20:09,157 fair and into predictable not 5219 03:20:10,629 --> 03:20:10,996 feeling with hidden costs in 5220 03:20:10,996 --> 03:20:12,996 the fine. 5221 03:20:15,332 --> 03:20:16,101 The proposed ordinance would 5222 03:20:16,101 --> 03:20:16,434 cap extra rent fee at no more 5223 03:20:16,434 --> 03:20:18,434 than 5%. 5224 03:20:20,472 --> 03:20:21,239 Similarly rents. 5225 03:20:21,239 --> 03:20:21,606 >> I actually support this 5226 03:20:21,606 --> 03:20:22,140 ordinance. 5227 03:20:22,140 --> 03:20:24,540 Thank you very much. 5228 03:20:26,244 --> 03:20:27,110 Thank you. 5229 03:20:27,110 --> 03:20:27,779 Our next speaker is Remo Abdi. 5230 03:20:27,779 --> 03:20:30,179 Well Remo walks in 5231 03:20:31,950 --> 03:20:32,651 the microphone and I also ask 5232 03:20:32,651 --> 03:20:35,510 Angel Pippins Lopez, Victoria 5233 03:20:37,255 --> 03:20:39,655 Rizzo, Maria Cortez, Alberto 5234 03:20:39,724 --> 03:20:40,392 Rivera and Briana Young to 5235 03:20:40,392 --> 03:20:42,792 please come forward to 5236 03:20:45,964 --> 03:20:46,832 the front row. 5237 03:20:46,832 --> 03:20:47,466 I know you have one person 5238 03:20:47,466 --> 03:20:47,766 sitting at your time Aria 5239 03:20:47,766 --> 03:20:48,967 Patel. 5240 03:20:48,967 --> 03:20:49,267 Could you please raise your 5241 03:20:49,267 --> 03:20:49,733 hand? 5242 03:20:49,733 --> 03:20:51,733 >> Okay, great. 5243 03:20:53,905 --> 03:20:54,372 You'll have two minutes. 5244 03:20:54,372 --> 03:20:54,840 Thank you. 5245 03:20:54,840 --> 03:20:55,440 Good afternoon. 5246 03:20:55,440 --> 03:20:55,774 Good afternoon, Council 5247 03:20:55,774 --> 03:20:57,774 members. 5248 03:21:00,479 --> 03:21:01,180 My name is Rama Abdi and 5249 03:21:01,180 --> 03:21:01,880 the director of Organizing and 5250 03:21:01,880 --> 03:21:04,883 campaign with Pana and also a 5251 03:21:04,883 --> 03:21:05,483 resident of District nine And 5252 03:21:05,483 --> 03:21:05,851 I'm here to support this 5253 03:21:05,851 --> 03:21:06,718 ordinance. 5254 03:21:06,718 --> 03:21:10,489 I want to speak from my own 5255 03:21:10,489 --> 03:21:11,289 experience So when I was 5256 03:21:11,289 --> 03:21:15,489 looking for a place to rent I 5257 03:21:15,894 --> 03:21:16,361 paid hundreds of of dollars and 5258 03:21:16,361 --> 03:21:17,280 application fee. 5259 03:21:17,280 --> 03:21:20,280 I applied to many apartments 5260 03:21:20,599 --> 03:21:21,266 but did not get approved. 5261 03:21:21,266 --> 03:21:24,266 I lost all that money. 5262 03:21:24,936 --> 03:21:25,704 It was very hard for me because 5263 03:21:25,704 --> 03:21:26,405 I was only trying to get to 5264 03:21:26,405 --> 03:21:26,738 find a safe place for my 5265 03:21:26,738 --> 03:21:28,738 family. 5266 03:21:30,342 --> 03:21:30,876 I also work with immigrant and 5267 03:21:30,876 --> 03:21:31,744 refugee communities. 5268 03:21:31,744 --> 03:21:35,681 I see how hard it is for them. 5269 03:21:35,681 --> 03:21:36,381 They came here hoping for a 5270 03:21:36,381 --> 03:21:39,981 better life but they face high 5271 03:21:40,886 --> 03:21:41,186 rent and many fees just to 5272 03:21:41,186 --> 03:21:42,530 apply. 5273 03:21:42,530 --> 03:21:45,390 For many families this is too 5274 03:21:45,390 --> 03:21:46,291 much. 5275 03:21:46,291 --> 03:21:46,625 Home should not be this hard to 5276 03:21:46,625 --> 03:21:47,259 get it. 5277 03:21:47,259 --> 03:21:50,195 It should bring safety and 5278 03:21:50,195 --> 03:21:50,963 hopes for them. 5279 03:21:50,963 --> 03:21:53,963 Please make this renting more 5280 03:21:55,300 --> 03:21:55,801 fair and protect families from 5281 03:21:55,801 --> 03:21:56,468 these unsafe fees. 5282 03:21:56,468 --> 03:22:00,680 Thank you for your time and 5283 03:22:00,339 --> 03:22:00,839 support this ordinance. 5284 03:22:00,839 --> 03:22:01,273 >> Thank you. 5285 03:22:01,273 --> 03:22:03,273 Next speakers. 5286 03:22:05,176 --> 03:22:05,744 Angel Pippins Lopez. 5287 03:22:05,744 --> 03:22:07,744 >> Hi everyone. 5288 03:22:09,983 --> 03:22:10,682 My name is Angel Pippins Lopez 5289 03:22:10,682 --> 03:22:11,383 and I'm the transportation and 5290 03:22:11,383 --> 03:22:11,717 planning program manager with 5291 03:22:11,717 --> 03:22:13,717 the cdc. 5292 03:22:15,921 --> 03:22:16,588 I'm also a renter and a long 5293 03:22:16,588 --> 03:22:17,323 time resident of the city of 5294 03:22:17,323 --> 03:22:20,893 San Diego And in the process of 5295 03:22:20,893 --> 03:22:21,594 securing my lease I paid over 5296 03:22:21,594 --> 03:22:24,594 $500 in screening fees that I 5297 03:22:25,631 --> 03:22:26,165 did not get back as many of 5298 03:22:26,165 --> 03:22:26,565 the people here have 5299 03:22:26,565 --> 03:22:27,233 experienced. 5300 03:22:27,233 --> 03:22:30,833 At the same time I received 5301 03:22:30,836 --> 03:22:31,570 monthly bills for ranging 5302 03:22:31,570 --> 03:22:33,970 between 50 and $250 for various 5303 03:22:35,307 --> 03:22:35,774 jump fees that I rarely see 5304 03:22:35,774 --> 03:22:36,442 the benefit of. 5305 03:22:36,442 --> 03:22:40,420 It is very serious when San 5306 03:22:40,146 --> 03:22:40,946 Diegans come to you and say 5307 03:22:40,946 --> 03:22:41,613 this is a real problem that 5308 03:22:41,613 --> 03:22:44,613 renters are facing every day 5309 03:22:45,617 --> 03:22:46,318 displacement becomes a more 5310 03:22:46,318 --> 03:22:46,986 serious issue for the city of 5311 03:22:46,986 --> 03:22:47,753 San Diego and it's essential 5312 03:22:47,753 --> 03:22:50,489 that we do what we can to avoid 5313 03:22:50,489 --> 03:22:51,190 displace rent and educate 5314 03:22:51,190 --> 03:22:54,694 renters on how they can ensure 5315 03:22:54,694 --> 03:22:55,428 that they are being protected. 5316 03:22:55,428 --> 03:22:56,162 Often the most disadvantaged 5317 03:22:56,162 --> 03:22:58,562 and disinvested communities are 5318 03:23:00,399 --> 03:23:01,670 the ones who receive the least 5319 03:23:01,670 --> 03:23:01,734 information about how these 5320 03:23:01,734 --> 03:23:02,101 programs are supposed to be 5321 03:23:02,101 --> 03:23:04,101 enforced. 5322 03:23:04,804 --> 03:23:05,537 And I ask that you not only 5323 03:23:05,537 --> 03:23:06,105 approve this ordinance but also 5324 03:23:06,105 --> 03:23:06,539 educate the community. 5325 03:23:06,539 --> 03:23:08,539 >> Thank you. 5326 03:23:10,142 --> 03:23:10,843 Thank you. 5327 03:23:10,843 --> 03:23:11,277 Our next speaker is Victoria 5328 03:23:11,277 --> 03:23:13,277 Ella Brazeau. 5329 03:23:16,414 --> 03:23:17,830 Victoria, you have time ceded 5330 03:23:17,830 --> 03:23:17,383 to you by Nicholas Lubbers. 5331 03:23:17,383 --> 03:23:17,984 Okay. 5332 03:23:17,984 --> 03:23:20,152 Do you raise your hand? 5333 03:23:20,152 --> 03:23:20,453 Thank you Nicholas and Angela. 5334 03:23:20,453 --> 03:23:20,987 Mel. 5335 03:23:20,987 --> 03:23:21,287 All right, Angela. 5336 03:23:21,287 --> 03:23:21,721 Okay. 5337 03:23:21,721 --> 03:23:23,721 There she is. 5338 03:23:24,457 --> 03:23:25,191 Go ahead. 5339 03:23:25,191 --> 03:23:25,491 >> You'll have three minutes. 5340 03:23:25,491 --> 03:23:25,858 Okay. 5341 03:23:25,858 --> 03:23:26,325 Thank you. 5342 03:23:26,325 --> 03:23:28,325 Good afternoon. 5343 03:23:29,295 --> 03:23:29,629 PRESIDENT LaCava and council 5344 03:23:29,629 --> 03:23:30,396 members. 5345 03:23:30,396 --> 03:23:33,532 Today I'm coming to you as an 5346 03:23:33,532 --> 03:23:34,166 ordinary citizen of San Diego 5347 03:23:34,166 --> 03:23:34,967 and an everyday citizen. 5348 03:23:34,967 --> 03:23:37,967 My name's Victoria La Brousseau 5349 03:23:39,380 --> 03:23:39,705 for nearly 30 years I've been a 5350 03:23:39,705 --> 03:23:40,206 housing provider off and on 5351 03:23:40,206 --> 03:23:42,606 here in San Diego. 5352 03:23:43,810 --> 03:23:44,544 >> My husband served in 5353 03:23:44,544 --> 03:23:47,814 the military and every time his 5354 03:23:47,814 --> 03:23:48,681 orders took us away we rented 5355 03:23:48,681 --> 03:23:49,415 out our family home so that one 5356 03:23:49,415 --> 03:23:49,782 day we could return to the city 5357 03:23:49,782 --> 03:23:51,782 we love. 5358 03:23:53,252 --> 03:23:53,953 One thing that stood out to me 5359 03:23:53,953 --> 03:23:54,653 when I read through the staff 5360 03:23:54,653 --> 03:23:57,756 report in one of the nation's 5361 03:23:57,756 --> 03:23:58,391 largest military communities 5362 03:23:58,391 --> 03:23:59,250 there is no discussion of 5363 03:23:59,250 --> 03:24:01,425 the military families who 5364 03:24:02,562 --> 03:24:03,263 temporarily rent out their 5365 03:24:03,263 --> 03:24:03,896 homes while serving elsewhere. 5366 03:24:03,896 --> 03:24:06,896 Did anyone study how many 5367 03:24:07,700 --> 03:24:08,300 military families this 5368 03:24:08,300 --> 03:24:08,901 ordinance could affect? 5369 03:24:08,901 --> 03:24:11,901 One statement by this in 5370 03:24:12,538 --> 03:24:12,939 the staff report particularly 5371 03:24:12,939 --> 03:24:13,606 concern me. 5372 03:24:13,606 --> 03:24:16,606 It says landlord fees quote 5373 03:24:16,842 --> 03:24:17,443 should not be another avenue 5374 03:24:17,443 --> 03:24:18,177 for landlords to extract 5375 03:24:18,177 --> 03:24:20,577 excessive profits from renters. 5376 03:24:21,413 --> 03:24:21,915 I believe that's a shortsighted 5377 03:24:21,915 --> 03:24:22,814 characterization. 5378 03:24:22,814 --> 03:24:26,414 For my family this wasn't an 5379 03:24:26,853 --> 03:24:27,420 investment property. 5380 03:24:27,420 --> 03:24:28,870 This was our home. 5381 03:24:28,870 --> 03:24:31,870 The rent barely covered our 5382 03:24:31,324 --> 03:24:31,991 mortgage Property taxes, 5383 03:24:31,991 --> 03:24:32,358 insurance repairs and other 5384 03:24:32,358 --> 03:24:34,358 expenses. 5385 03:24:36,463 --> 03:24:37,330 We weren't extracting profits. 5386 03:24:37,330 --> 03:24:38,310 We were trying to break even 5387 03:24:38,310 --> 03:24:41,310 while preserving our home that 5388 03:24:41,601 --> 03:24:42,368 we hoped to return to. 5389 03:24:42,368 --> 03:24:42,702 Over the years we had multiple 5390 03:24:42,702 --> 03:24:43,236 tenants. 5391 03:24:43,236 --> 03:24:45,236 Some were wonderful. 5392 03:24:45,805 --> 03:24:46,439 Others called significant 5393 03:24:46,439 --> 03:24:47,730 financial losses that came 5394 03:24:47,730 --> 03:24:50,730 right out of our pocket. 5395 03:24:50,844 --> 03:24:51,478 I ask you to consider 5396 03:24:51,478 --> 03:24:52,780 the cumulative impacts of 5397 03:24:52,780 --> 03:24:54,478 the policies like this. 5398 03:24:55,548 --> 03:24:55,982 >> I understand the desire to 5399 03:24:55,982 --> 03:24:57,982 help renters. 5400 03:24:59,552 --> 03:25:00,253 In fact my 22 year old son is 5401 03:25:00,253 --> 03:25:01,870 here with me and he's looking 5402 03:25:01,870 --> 03:25:04,230 in the market right now as we 5403 03:25:04,230 --> 03:25:04,958 speak. 5404 03:25:04,958 --> 03:25:05,725 >> He wants to build his future 5405 03:25:05,725 --> 03:25:09,620 in San Diego and he'll soon be 5406 03:25:09,620 --> 03:25:09,362 looking for the housing himself 5407 03:25:09,362 --> 03:25:10,960 . 5408 03:25:10,960 --> 03:25:10,830 I want affordable housing and 5409 03:25:10,830 --> 03:25:13,767 protection for him just as much 5410 03:25:13,767 --> 03:25:14,534 as you do. 5411 03:25:14,534 --> 03:25:15,235 But I don't believe this 5412 03:25:15,235 --> 03:25:17,635 ordinance is representative of 5413 03:25:18,638 --> 03:25:19,472 the people it regulates. 5414 03:25:19,472 --> 03:25:20,273 It assumes one type of housing 5415 03:25:20,273 --> 03:25:23,873 provider when San Diego is home 5416 03:25:23,876 --> 03:25:24,577 to military families, retirees, 5417 03:25:24,577 --> 03:25:27,577 families renting out a single 5418 03:25:28,715 --> 03:25:29,449 home and many others whose 5419 03:25:29,449 --> 03:25:30,500 experiences are very different. 5420 03:25:30,500 --> 03:25:32,500 Before adopting another 5421 03:25:34,321 --> 03:25:35,210 regulation that affects every 5422 03:25:35,210 --> 03:25:35,689 housing provider in this city, 5423 03:25:35,689 --> 03:25:38,358 I ask that you first ensure 5424 03:25:38,358 --> 03:25:38,925 that you consider all of them. 5425 03:25:38,925 --> 03:25:39,626 For those reasons I 5426 03:25:39,626 --> 03:25:39,993 respectfully ask you to oppose 5427 03:25:39,993 --> 03:25:41,993 this item. 5428 03:25:43,896 --> 03:25:44,197 Thank you very much for your 5429 03:25:44,197 --> 03:25:44,631 time. 5430 03:25:44,631 --> 03:25:46,631 >> Thank you. 5431 03:25:53,407 --> 03:25:53,907 Next speaker is Maria Cortez. 5432 03:25:53,907 --> 03:25:54,573 >> Hello. 5433 03:25:54,573 --> 03:25:57,573 My name is Maria Cortez. 5434 03:25:58,811 --> 03:25:59,279 I'm a resident of City Heights 5435 03:25:59,279 --> 03:26:01,279 for 5454 years. 5436 03:26:02,782 --> 03:26:03,483 I'm also with the City Heights 5437 03:26:03,483 --> 03:26:03,850 City with transportation and 5438 03:26:03,850 --> 03:26:04,751 planning. 5439 03:26:04,751 --> 03:26:08,522 I am here in support of this 5440 03:26:08,522 --> 03:26:09,189 ordinance because I have I'm 5441 03:26:09,189 --> 03:26:12,189 out there in the community. 5442 03:26:12,526 --> 03:26:12,960 I see what's going on in 5443 03:26:12,960 --> 03:26:13,627 the community. 5444 03:26:13,627 --> 03:26:17,227 My community we have so many 5445 03:26:17,764 --> 03:26:18,398 people that are having problems 5446 03:26:18,398 --> 03:26:21,398 with with the hidden fees. 5447 03:26:22,703 --> 03:26:23,360 >> They are as we say they are 5448 03:26:23,360 --> 03:26:23,737 living. 5449 03:26:23,737 --> 03:26:27,337 We're living with them ten to 5450 03:26:27,340 --> 03:26:28,800 maybe 15 people in one one 5451 03:26:28,800 --> 03:26:31,800 apartment in just one unit. 5452 03:26:31,978 --> 03:26:32,713 And to see the kids go through 5453 03:26:32,713 --> 03:26:36,350 the things that they have to go 5454 03:26:36,350 --> 03:26:37,150 through I understand what some 5455 03:26:37,150 --> 03:26:37,551 of tenants and the owners here 5456 03:26:37,551 --> 03:26:39,551 are saying. 5457 03:26:41,421 --> 03:26:42,156 I understand that. 5458 03:26:42,156 --> 03:26:42,623 But for the other ones this is 5459 03:26:42,623 --> 03:26:44,623 something else. 5460 03:26:45,959 --> 03:26:46,560 I also have a friend right now 5461 03:26:46,560 --> 03:26:47,227 who is going through a 5462 03:26:47,227 --> 03:26:49,627 situation where hidden fees 5463 03:26:51,198 --> 03:26:54,198 were were proposed to her. 5464 03:26:55,436 --> 03:26:56,303 And I am trying to help her but 5465 03:26:56,303 --> 03:26:56,703 she has to be out of the house 5466 03:26:56,703 --> 03:26:57,404 by tomorrow. 5467 03:26:57,404 --> 03:26:58,372 >> So I want to say thank you. 5468 03:26:58,372 --> 03:27:01,372 That does conclude your time. 5469 03:27:08,214 --> 03:27:08,982 >> Gilberto Olvera. 5470 03:27:08,982 --> 03:27:09,316 >> Good afternoon, Council 5471 03:27:09,316 --> 03:27:09,884 members. 5472 03:27:09,884 --> 03:27:12,884 My name is Gil Vieira. 5473 03:27:13,453 --> 03:27:14,188 I'm the director of the Housing 5474 03:27:14,188 --> 03:27:14,855 Justice Collaborative and Legal 5475 03:27:14,855 --> 03:27:15,122 Aid Society San Diego Legal 5476 03:27:15,122 --> 03:27:15,756 Aid. 5477 03:27:15,756 --> 03:27:18,258 Our mission is to prevent 5478 03:27:18,258 --> 03:27:18,858 homelessness with holistic 5479 03:27:18,858 --> 03:27:19,560 wraparound services and 5480 03:27:19,560 --> 03:27:20,940 enforcing laws to protect our 5481 03:27:20,940 --> 03:27:22,940 most vulnerable from 5482 03:27:23,163 --> 03:27:24,310 exploitation. 5483 03:27:24,310 --> 03:27:24,732 We are seeing landlords charge 5484 03:27:24,732 --> 03:27:25,398 fees to cover things Landlords 5485 03:27:25,398 --> 03:27:27,798 are legally responsible for 5486 03:27:28,469 --> 03:27:29,135 such as monthly pest control 5487 03:27:29,135 --> 03:27:29,769 fees, fees to stay month to 5488 03:27:29,769 --> 03:27:32,169 month maintenance fees and 5489 03:27:32,940 --> 03:27:33,641 the many other tenants pay for 5490 03:27:33,641 --> 03:27:34,375 monthly insurance premium that 5491 03:27:34,375 --> 03:27:35,750 protects the landlords property 5492 03:27:35,750 --> 03:27:38,750 and limit their own liability. 5493 03:27:38,479 --> 03:27:39,146 This is exploitation. 5494 03:27:39,146 --> 03:27:39,880 We see firsthand how hidden 5495 03:27:39,880 --> 03:27:42,650 fees push families to the brink 5496 03:27:42,650 --> 03:27:42,983 and are designed to leech off 5497 03:27:42,983 --> 03:27:43,684 tenants. 5498 03:27:43,684 --> 03:27:45,819 The rent ledgers we see today 5499 03:27:45,819 --> 03:27:46,520 have more than five monthly 5500 03:27:46,520 --> 03:27:47,154 charges a month that result in 5501 03:27:47,154 --> 03:27:49,554 long complex ledgers that 5502 03:27:51,425 --> 03:27:52,590 confuse tenants who shouldn't 5503 03:27:52,590 --> 03:27:52,727 need an mba or accounting 5504 03:27:52,727 --> 03:27:55,727 degree to decipher your own 5505 03:27:56,230 --> 03:27:56,931 ledger by closing loopholes In 5506 03:27:56,931 --> 03:27:57,598 the many transparencies we're 5507 03:27:57,598 --> 03:28:00,434 helping to build a more fair 5508 03:28:00,434 --> 03:28:01,100 and stable housing market for 5509 03:28:01,100 --> 03:28:01,669 everyone in San Diego. 5510 03:28:01,669 --> 03:28:02,403 Something that I would think 5511 03:28:02,403 --> 03:28:04,803 ethical housing providers would 5512 03:28:05,338 --> 03:28:06,600 be supportive of. 5513 03:28:06,600 --> 03:28:06,406 Thank you for your time. 5514 03:28:06,406 --> 03:28:08,406 Thank you. 5515 03:28:10,344 --> 03:28:11,450 Next speaker is Brianna Young 5516 03:28:11,450 --> 03:28:11,512 or Brianna comes to 5517 03:28:11,512 --> 03:28:12,213 the microphone. 5518 03:28:12,213 --> 03:28:15,213 I would ask Alex Vazquez 5519 03:28:15,549 --> 03:28:17,949 Melanie Woods, David Baker, 5520 03:28:20,521 --> 03:28:21,155 Claire Snider and Carmen Panelo 5521 03:28:21,155 --> 03:28:24,155 Loza Valdez to please come 5522 03:28:25,659 --> 03:28:26,394 forward to the front row. 5523 03:28:26,394 --> 03:28:26,861 >> So Brianna, please begin. 5524 03:28:26,861 --> 03:28:28,861 Have one minute. 5525 03:28:29,997 --> 03:28:30,398 Good afternoon, members of 5526 03:28:30,398 --> 03:28:31,132 the council. 5527 03:28:31,132 --> 03:28:31,832 >> My name is Brianna Young and 5528 03:28:31,832 --> 03:28:34,680 while I'm currently an intern 5529 03:28:34,680 --> 03:28:34,836 at the San Diego and Imperial 5530 03:28:34,836 --> 03:28:35,469 County Labor Council, I am here 5531 03:28:35,469 --> 03:28:36,270 today representing myself. 5532 03:28:36,270 --> 03:28:39,400 I doubt you need to hear more 5533 03:28:39,400 --> 03:28:39,807 about the affordability issues 5534 03:28:39,807 --> 03:28:40,541 here in San Diego, but that is 5535 03:28:40,541 --> 03:28:41,800 one of the reasons you sit here 5536 03:28:41,800 --> 03:28:43,800 on this council. 5537 03:28:44,378 --> 03:28:45,113 I am a recent graduate from uc 5538 03:28:45,113 --> 03:28:45,913 San Diego and I learned the lay 5539 03:28:45,913 --> 03:28:48,782 of the land in La Hoya so it 5540 03:28:48,782 --> 03:28:49,551 didn't take me long to realize 5541 03:28:49,551 --> 03:28:50,317 I was out of my tax bracket. 5542 03:28:50,317 --> 03:28:53,453 My roommates and I were all 5543 03:28:53,453 --> 03:28:54,188 full working students. 5544 03:28:54,188 --> 03:28:54,822 Full time working students have 5545 03:28:54,822 --> 03:28:57,222 been looking to relocate. 5546 03:28:57,825 --> 03:28:58,526 No fancy coastal places just 5547 03:28:58,526 --> 03:28:59,193 somewhere simple to start our 5548 03:28:59,193 --> 03:28:59,594 lives and careers and finish 5549 03:28:59,594 --> 03:29:00,228 our degrees. 5550 03:29:00,228 --> 03:29:00,561 >> But it hasn't been that 5551 03:29:00,561 --> 03:29:02,561 simple. 5552 03:29:03,631 --> 03:29:04,297 Even finding a home in our 5553 03:29:04,297 --> 03:29:04,999 price range we're still hit 5554 03:29:04,999 --> 03:29:07,335 with these junk fees that are 5555 03:29:07,335 --> 03:29:08,360 on the agenda today in 5556 03:29:08,360 --> 03:29:08,636 the month of JUNE alone we 5557 03:29:08,636 --> 03:29:10,636 spent roughly $250 on 5558 03:29:12,139 --> 03:29:12,707 application fees and 5559 03:29:12,707 --> 03:29:13,107 screenings, background 5560 03:29:13,107 --> 03:29:13,775 screenings. 5561 03:29:13,775 --> 03:29:14,175 We were still rejected from 5562 03:29:14,175 --> 03:29:16,175 every place. 5563 03:29:17,312 --> 03:29:18,120 This isn't getting into 5564 03:29:18,120 --> 03:29:18,746 the fact that we're struggling 5565 03:29:18,746 --> 03:29:19,280 to find a place that's livable, 5566 03:29:19,280 --> 03:29:21,280 safe and accessible. 5567 03:29:21,816 --> 03:29:22,215 There are already hidden fees 5568 03:29:22,215 --> 03:29:22,917 everywhere. 5569 03:29:22,917 --> 03:29:23,618 They're hidden in our grocery 5570 03:29:23,618 --> 03:29:26,821 stores going to the gas pump, 5571 03:29:26,821 --> 03:29:27,689 getting insured and now just 5572 03:29:27,689 --> 03:29:28,189 trying to find a place to live. 5573 03:29:28,189 --> 03:29:28,723 I can't afford it. 5574 03:29:28,723 --> 03:29:29,591 We can't afford it. 5575 03:29:29,591 --> 03:29:31,593 So I support this ordinance and 5576 03:29:31,593 --> 03:29:32,590 I hope you will too. 5577 03:29:32,590 --> 03:29:34,590 >> Thank you. 5578 03:29:35,930 --> 03:29:37,930 Alex Vasquez. 5579 03:29:41,302 --> 03:29:42,700 >> Hi. 5580 03:29:42,700 --> 03:29:42,637 >> My name is Alex Vasquez. 5581 03:29:42,637 --> 03:29:43,304 I'm an organizer with 5582 03:29:43,304 --> 03:29:43,838 Partnership for a Better San 5583 03:29:43,838 --> 03:29:45,838 Diego, the affiliate 5584 03:29:45,940 --> 03:29:46,641 organization of San Diego and 5585 03:29:46,641 --> 03:29:49,410 Imperial County Labor Council 5586 03:29:49,844 --> 03:29:50,545 that represents over 100 unions 5587 03:29:50,545 --> 03:29:51,312 and more than 200,000 workers. 5588 03:29:51,312 --> 03:29:54,983 I am here to support the junk 5589 03:29:54,983 --> 03:29:55,716 food ordinance that was 5590 03:29:55,716 --> 03:29:56,418 proposed by Councilmember Shani 5591 03:29:56,418 --> 03:29:57,170 Le Rivera because looking for 5592 03:29:57,170 --> 03:29:59,417 housing should come with 5593 03:29:59,921 --> 03:30:00,654 transparency. 5594 03:30:00,654 --> 03:30:01,289 I have personally struggled to 5595 03:30:01,289 --> 03:30:02,230 find housing in San Diego. 5596 03:30:02,230 --> 03:30:04,458 As someone who has been through 5597 03:30:04,458 --> 03:30:05,126 that with roommates meaning 5598 03:30:05,126 --> 03:30:08,126 several incomes it was still 5599 03:30:09,640 --> 03:30:09,664 expensive and ridiculous to be 5600 03:30:09,664 --> 03:30:10,640 paying 30 to $60 per 5601 03:30:10,640 --> 03:30:10,732 application. 5602 03:30:10,732 --> 03:30:14,332 What is worse is that wasn't 5603 03:30:14,435 --> 03:30:15,135 even guaranteed to get housing 5604 03:30:15,135 --> 03:30:18,135 and the competition is insane. 5605 03:30:19,274 --> 03:30:19,941 You go to an open house and you 5606 03:30:19,941 --> 03:30:20,642 feel like a sardine because 5607 03:30:20,642 --> 03:30:21,376 there are so many other people 5608 03:30:21,376 --> 03:30:24,312 who are looking for and paid 5609 03:30:24,312 --> 03:30:24,913 and application fee just to see 5610 03:30:24,913 --> 03:30:25,580 this apartment or house. 5611 03:30:25,580 --> 03:30:28,580 Too many San Diego residents 5612 03:30:28,650 --> 03:30:29,317 are paying unexpected fees and 5613 03:30:29,317 --> 03:30:29,818 other costs that are already 5614 03:30:29,818 --> 03:30:31,818 expensive housing. 5615 03:30:33,221 --> 03:30:34,540 It makes it even harder. 5616 03:30:34,540 --> 03:30:34,957 I appreciate the city taking a 5617 03:30:34,957 --> 03:30:38,293 closer look at this issue and I 5618 03:30:38,293 --> 03:30:38,894 encourage you to continue 5619 03:30:38,894 --> 03:30:39,460 advancing policies that 5620 03:30:39,460 --> 03:30:39,894 increase transparency. 5621 03:30:39,894 --> 03:30:40,629 >> Thank you. 5622 03:30:40,629 --> 03:30:42,629 Thank you. 5623 03:30:45,967 --> 03:30:46,635 >> Melanie Woods Melanie, you 5624 03:30:46,635 --> 03:30:49,350 have several people sitting 5625 03:30:50,906 --> 03:30:51,606 your time so if you could just 5626 03:30:51,606 --> 03:30:53,875 raise your hand when I read 5627 03:30:53,875 --> 03:30:56,275 your name verifier here. 5628 03:30:59,470 --> 03:31:01,470 New Muncie. 5629 03:31:03,852 --> 03:31:04,352 Denise Dennis. 5630 03:31:04,352 --> 03:31:04,653 Venetia Hamilton. 5631 03:31:04,653 --> 03:31:06,653 Okay. 5632 03:31:08,590 --> 03:31:08,890 Adrianne Medina. 5633 03:31:08,890 --> 03:31:10,890 Okay. 5634 03:31:13,495 --> 03:31:14,620 Angela MAY. 5635 03:31:14,620 --> 03:31:16,620 Heather King. 5636 03:31:17,933 --> 03:31:19,933 Stephanie Grimm. 5637 03:31:23,372 --> 03:31:23,772 Shawn Ford. 5638 03:31:23,772 --> 03:31:25,772 Thank you. 5639 03:31:27,642 --> 03:31:28,110 Thank you. 5640 03:31:28,110 --> 03:31:28,610 Thursday Flores. 5641 03:31:28,610 --> 03:31:30,610 Matthew Gonzalez. 5642 03:31:31,460 --> 03:31:33,460 Heather Shepherd. 5643 03:31:33,982 --> 03:31:35,982 Tracy Brunetti. 5644 03:31:38,190 --> 03:31:40,190 Kayla Castaneda. 5645 03:31:43,558 --> 03:31:43,959 Kelly McKenna. 5646 03:31:43,959 --> 03:31:45,959 Okay, great. 5647 03:31:46,694 --> 03:31:47,290 Melanie, you'll have 15 5648 03:31:47,290 --> 03:31:47,495 minutes. 5649 03:31:47,495 --> 03:31:47,863 >> Please begin. 5650 03:31:47,863 --> 03:31:48,530 Excellent. 5651 03:31:48,530 --> 03:31:51,530 Sorry I wasn't planning a 5652 03:31:51,834 --> 03:31:52,234 filibuster. 5653 03:31:52,234 --> 03:31:52,801 All right. 5654 03:31:52,801 --> 03:31:53,402 Good afternoon, Chair. 5655 03:31:53,402 --> 03:31:55,802 Members of the council. 5656 03:31:56,337 --> 03:31:57,720 I'm Melanie Bird and I serve as 5657 03:31:57,720 --> 03:31:57,573 the vice PRESIDENT For of local 5658 03:31:57,573 --> 03:31:58,173 public affairs for 5659 03:31:58,173 --> 03:32:00,173 the California Apartment 5660 03:32:00,676 --> 03:32:01,376 Association. 5661 03:32:01,376 --> 03:32:02,111 I'm also ad5 resident. 5662 03:32:02,111 --> 03:32:05,111 Caa is the largest statewide 5663 03:32:05,214 --> 03:32:05,914 trade association representing 5664 03:32:05,914 --> 03:32:08,314 owners, operators and managers 5665 03:32:10,152 --> 03:32:10,786 of multifamily housing. 5666 03:32:10,786 --> 03:32:13,186 Our membership ranges from 5667 03:32:15,190 --> 03:32:15,824 large multifamily operators to 5668 03:32:15,824 --> 03:32:16,759 small mom and pop housing 5669 03:32:16,759 --> 03:32:19,661 providers who own 1 or 2 rental 5670 03:32:19,661 --> 03:32:20,429 properties. 5671 03:32:20,429 --> 03:32:23,429 Education and compliance are at 5672 03:32:24,233 --> 03:32:24,533 the heart of our mission at caa 5673 03:32:24,533 --> 03:32:25,234 . 5674 03:32:25,234 --> 03:32:25,934 I'm here representing ethical 5675 03:32:25,934 --> 03:32:28,934 housing providers many of whom 5676 03:32:29,805 --> 03:32:30,506 you see behind me but many, 5677 03:32:30,506 --> 03:32:30,806 many more who couldn't be here 5678 03:32:30,806 --> 03:32:32,806 today. 5679 03:32:34,643 --> 03:32:35,376 We're strongly opposed to 5680 03:32:35,376 --> 03:32:36,111 the ordinance before you today. 5681 03:32:36,111 --> 03:32:38,511 It regulates legitimate revenue 5682 03:32:39,814 --> 03:32:40,549 streams that are fundamental to 5683 03:32:40,549 --> 03:32:43,549 the economics of rental housing 5684 03:32:44,486 --> 03:32:45,121 and in so doing so risks 5685 03:32:45,121 --> 03:32:47,521 undermining the city's own 5686 03:32:49,225 --> 03:32:49,892 housing production goals. 5687 03:32:49,892 --> 03:32:52,292 Further, there's no evidence 5688 03:32:53,863 --> 03:32:54,496 that the proposed policy 5689 03:32:54,496 --> 03:32:55,231 solutions will achieve any 5690 03:32:55,231 --> 03:32:58,231 specific goals or solve any 5691 03:32:59,734 --> 03:33:00,102 identify wide or quantified 5692 03:33:00,102 --> 03:33:02,102 problems. 5693 03:33:04,407 --> 03:33:05,107 One of our biggest concerns on 5694 03:33:05,107 --> 03:33:05,574 this proposal is a cap on 5695 03:33:05,574 --> 03:33:06,208 the cap on fees. 5696 03:33:06,208 --> 03:33:08,608 These aren't hidden fees. 5697 03:33:09,278 --> 03:33:10,120 They're a commonly used revenue 5698 03:33:10,120 --> 03:33:13,120 stream baked into the financing 5699 03:33:13,849 --> 03:33:14,349 and revenue assumptions of 5700 03:33:14,349 --> 03:33:14,951 housing projects. 5701 03:33:14,951 --> 03:33:17,951 These fees are driven by 5702 03:33:18,322 --> 03:33:18,888 the cost of labor insurance, 5703 03:33:18,888 --> 03:33:20,888 maintenance contracts, 5704 03:33:23,458 --> 03:33:24,126 utilities and vendor expenses. 5705 03:33:24,126 --> 03:33:25,270 The 5% cap is arbitrary and 5706 03:33:25,270 --> 03:33:28,598 it's too low to account for 5707 03:33:28,598 --> 03:33:29,331 the market rate of providing 5708 03:33:29,331 --> 03:33:29,966 these amenities and too low for 5709 03:33:29,966 --> 03:33:32,366 housing providers to cover 5710 03:33:33,469 --> 03:33:34,336 their own costs. 5711 03:33:34,336 --> 03:33:37,936 Capping the amount that MAY be 5712 03:33:38,207 --> 03:33:38,774 charged for these services will 5713 03:33:38,774 --> 03:33:39,475 either require housing 5714 03:33:39,475 --> 03:33:42,445 providers to shift those costs 5715 03:33:42,445 --> 03:33:43,112 into base rent or reduce 5716 03:33:43,112 --> 03:33:45,512 the availability of optional 5717 03:33:47,583 --> 03:33:48,217 services altogether. 5718 03:33:48,217 --> 03:33:50,617 As currently drafted, this 5719 03:33:52,188 --> 03:33:52,889 ordinance also includes 5720 03:33:52,889 --> 03:33:54,889 operational services optional 5721 03:33:56,192 --> 03:33:56,893 services under the 5% cap. 5722 03:33:56,893 --> 03:33:59,293 Think reserved Parking storage 5723 03:34:01,397 --> 03:34:01,897 units technology packages and 5724 03:34:01,897 --> 03:34:03,897 pediment entries. 5725 03:34:05,835 --> 03:34:06,469 These are all optional expenses 5726 03:34:06,469 --> 03:34:07,103 that residents voluntarily 5727 03:34:07,103 --> 03:34:07,403 choose based on their own 5728 03:34:07,403 --> 03:34:09,403 needs. 5729 03:34:10,640 --> 03:34:11,107 But these services have real 5730 03:34:11,107 --> 03:34:13,107 operating costs. 5731 03:34:15,177 --> 03:34:15,878 Pet friendly housing have has 5732 03:34:15,878 --> 03:34:18,878 to provide pet relief areas, 5733 03:34:20,316 --> 03:34:21,500 trash bags and pay staff to 5734 03:34:21,500 --> 03:34:21,551 clean up when less diligent pet 5735 03:34:21,551 --> 03:34:23,951 pet owners do not. 5736 03:34:25,540 --> 03:34:25,755 If these costs cannot be 5737 03:34:25,755 --> 03:34:28,755 recuperated through a pet fee, 5738 03:34:29,358 --> 03:34:30,600 housing providers MAY choose to 5739 03:34:30,600 --> 03:34:30,726 stop allowing pets altogether 5740 03:34:30,726 --> 03:34:34,326 or if they still allow pets. 5741 03:34:34,664 --> 03:34:35,398 These costs will be wrapped 5742 03:34:35,398 --> 03:34:36,980 into base rents and shoulder by 5743 03:34:36,980 --> 03:34:38,498 tenants regardless of whether 5744 03:34:39,102 --> 03:34:39,768 they own a pet. 5745 03:34:39,768 --> 03:34:40,403 Additionally, this arbitrary 5746 03:34:40,403 --> 03:34:43,403 cap has no relationship to 5747 03:34:44,400 --> 03:34:46,400 actual costs. 5748 03:34:47,710 --> 03:34:48,511 Picture a scenario one person 5749 03:34:48,511 --> 03:34:50,911 paying $3,000 in rent and 5750 03:34:52,281 --> 03:34:54,681 another paying 2500 their or 5751 03:34:57,187 --> 03:34:57,587 they are each paying a cap to 5752 03:34:57,587 --> 03:34:59,587 5% in fees. 5753 03:35:00,523 --> 03:35:01,224 Should the resident paying 2500 5754 03:35:01,224 --> 03:35:04,824 pay less in those fees despite 5755 03:35:05,461 --> 03:35:06,129 receiving the same services? 5756 03:35:06,129 --> 03:35:06,830 Ironically this creates a 5757 03:35:06,830 --> 03:35:09,230 situation where allowable fee 5758 03:35:10,867 --> 03:35:11,234 increases increase as rent 5759 03:35:11,234 --> 03:35:11,834 increase. 5760 03:35:11,834 --> 03:35:14,834 Even though the cost of 5761 03:35:15,537 --> 03:35:16,338 providing these services 5762 03:35:16,338 --> 03:35:19,938 remains the same, none of those 5763 03:35:20,410 --> 03:35:20,710 outcomes improve affordability 5764 03:35:20,710 --> 03:35:21,377 . 5765 03:35:21,377 --> 03:35:22,450 We're also deeply concerned 5766 03:35:22,450 --> 03:35:24,445 about the reusable screening 5767 03:35:25,848 --> 03:35:26,583 report requirement. 5768 03:35:26,583 --> 03:35:29,583 Reducing application costs is a 5769 03:35:30,387 --> 03:35:31,200 worthwhile goal but we have to 5770 03:35:31,200 --> 03:35:31,521 balance affordability with 5771 03:35:31,521 --> 03:35:33,521 accuracy and risk. 5772 03:35:35,558 --> 03:35:36,258 Housing providers rely on 5773 03:35:36,258 --> 03:35:38,658 trusted third party screening 5774 03:35:40,196 --> 03:35:40,863 systems that integrate directly 5775 03:35:40,863 --> 03:35:41,565 into their leasing platforms 5776 03:35:41,565 --> 03:35:43,965 and apply consistent screening 5777 03:35:45,135 --> 03:35:45,836 standards to every applicant. 5778 03:35:45,836 --> 03:35:48,236 This proposal requires housing 5779 03:35:50,207 --> 03:35:50,874 providers accept reusable 5780 03:35:50,874 --> 03:35:52,874 screening reports, creating 5781 03:35:55,679 --> 03:35:56,346 uncertainty about how those 5782 03:35:56,346 --> 03:35:59,346 reports will be verified and 5783 03:36:00,250 --> 03:36:00,717 how they will fit into existing 5784 03:36:00,717 --> 03:36:01,284 leasing systems. 5785 03:36:01,284 --> 03:36:01,685 These concerns aren't 5786 03:36:01,685 --> 03:36:03,685 theoretical. 5787 03:36:05,455 --> 03:36:06,890 A recent Wall Street Journal 5788 03:36:06,890 --> 03:36:08,890 investigation documented a 5789 03:36:09,893 --> 03:36:10,560 dramatic increase in rental 5790 03:36:10,560 --> 03:36:12,560 application fraud including 5791 03:36:14,731 --> 03:36:15,465 falsifying pay stubs, fake 5792 03:36:15,465 --> 03:36:16,330 employment records, manipulated 5793 03:36:16,330 --> 03:36:18,433 credit profiles and ai 5794 03:36:19,803 --> 03:36:20,303 generated financial documents 5795 03:36:20,303 --> 03:36:20,971 being sold online. 5796 03:36:20,971 --> 03:36:23,371 The ordinance allows housing 5797 03:36:25,740 --> 03:36:28,740 providers to obtain new reports 5798 03:36:29,279 --> 03:36:29,947 at their own expense but this 5799 03:36:29,947 --> 03:36:30,647 language creates uncertainty 5800 03:36:30,647 --> 03:36:33,470 regarding what constitutes an 5801 03:36:34,840 --> 03:36:34,784 acceptable report. 5802 03:36:34,784 --> 03:36:36,784 What verification obligations 5803 03:36:38,922 --> 03:36:39,655 does the landlord assume and 5804 03:36:39,655 --> 03:36:40,357 how landlords should reconcile 5805 03:36:40,357 --> 03:36:42,757 the applicant provided report 5806 03:36:44,260 --> 03:36:44,628 with their own screening 5807 03:36:44,628 --> 03:36:45,329 standards? 5808 03:36:45,329 --> 03:36:47,329 These inconsistencies between 5809 03:36:49,333 --> 03:36:50,000 the tenant provider report and 5810 03:36:50,000 --> 03:36:53,000 the third party report could 5811 03:36:54,438 --> 03:36:55,380 result in more applications 5812 03:36:55,380 --> 03:36:57,380 actually being rejected. 5813 03:36:59,209 --> 03:36:59,910 Let's say for a second maybe 5814 03:36:59,910 --> 03:37:00,610 you truly believe that housing 5815 03:37:00,610 --> 03:37:03,100 providers should shoulder that 5816 03:37:03,980 --> 03:37:04,715 screening cost. 5817 03:37:04,715 --> 03:37:05,148 The reality is that those costs 5818 03:37:05,148 --> 03:37:07,148 don't go away. 5819 03:37:09,186 --> 03:37:09,887 They get redistributed out. 5820 03:37:09,887 --> 03:37:10,587 Housing providers shouldering 5821 03:37:10,587 --> 03:37:14,187 that burden are more likely to 5822 03:37:14,224 --> 03:37:14,825 adopt higher screening 5823 03:37:14,825 --> 03:37:15,559 criteria, close listings 5824 03:37:15,559 --> 03:37:17,959 quickly and close opportunities 5825 03:37:18,962 --> 03:37:19,363 for tenants wanting to be 5826 03:37:19,363 --> 03:37:20,630 rescreened. 5827 03:37:20,630 --> 03:37:23,630 These outcomes do not increase 5828 03:37:23,834 --> 03:37:24,268 housing opportunity and 5829 03:37:24,268 --> 03:37:24,901 affordability. 5830 03:37:24,901 --> 03:37:28,338 In fact they MAY harm it. 5831 03:37:28,338 --> 03:37:28,839 Moving on to late rent 5832 03:37:28,839 --> 03:37:29,539 the ordinance also 5833 03:37:29,539 --> 03:37:31,939 fundamentally changes how late 5834 03:37:33,611 --> 03:37:34,278 payments are handled. 5835 03:37:34,278 --> 03:37:37,278 A mandatory seven day grace 5836 03:37:38,415 --> 03:37:38,816 period doesn't simply delay a 5837 03:37:38,816 --> 03:37:39,383 late fee. 5838 03:37:39,383 --> 03:37:40,117 It effectively changes 5839 03:37:40,117 --> 03:37:43,717 the practical due date of rent 5840 03:37:43,787 --> 03:37:44,355 for every residential lease in 5841 03:37:44,355 --> 03:37:47,355 the city of San Diego. 5842 03:37:47,958 --> 03:37:48,658 Yet we've seen no evidence 5843 03:37:48,658 --> 03:37:49,359 demonstrating that a mandatory 5844 03:37:49,359 --> 03:37:52,359 seven day grace period reduces 5845 03:37:53,330 --> 03:37:53,831 eviction laws or improves 5846 03:37:53,831 --> 03:37:54,598 housing stability. 5847 03:37:54,598 --> 03:37:57,535 If the city's goal is to help 5848 03:37:57,535 --> 03:37:58,135 households experiencing genuine 5849 03:37:58,135 --> 03:37:58,669 hardship, then targeted 5850 03:37:58,669 --> 03:38:00,669 assistance and early 5851 03:38:02,139 --> 03:38:02,773 intervention are more effective 5852 03:38:02,773 --> 03:38:05,173 than rewriting the payment 5853 03:38:06,976 --> 03:38:07,611 expectations for every lease. 5854 03:38:07,611 --> 03:38:09,611 Similarly, California law 5855 03:38:12,249 --> 03:38:12,916 already regulates late fees. 5856 03:38:12,916 --> 03:38:15,316 These must represent a 5857 03:38:16,887 --> 03:38:17,321 reasonable estimate of actual 5858 03:38:17,321 --> 03:38:18,550 damages. 5859 03:38:18,550 --> 03:38:20,455 Replacing that long established 5860 03:38:21,192 --> 03:38:21,792 legal standard with an 5861 03:38:21,792 --> 03:38:22,492 arbitrary 2% cap ignores 5862 03:38:22,492 --> 03:38:24,892 the real administrative costs 5863 03:38:26,364 --> 03:38:27,310 and cashflow disruption 5864 03:38:27,310 --> 03:38:29,310 disruptions associated with 5865 03:38:31,101 --> 03:38:31,769 delinquent payments. 5866 03:38:31,769 --> 03:38:32,370 >> Finally, transparency We 5867 03:38:32,370 --> 03:38:34,370 fundamentally agree with 5868 03:38:36,339 --> 03:38:36,940 the idea of transparency. 5869 03:38:36,940 --> 03:38:37,608 Tenants should know and 5870 03:38:37,608 --> 03:38:40,608 understand the full cost of 5871 03:38:41,512 --> 03:38:41,812 their housing before signing a 5872 03:38:41,812 --> 03:38:42,479 lease. 5873 03:38:42,479 --> 03:38:45,479 Tenants being in homes that 5874 03:38:46,384 --> 03:38:47,170 they can afford benefits both 5875 03:38:47,170 --> 03:38:47,385 the tenant and the housing 5876 03:38:47,385 --> 03:38:49,385 provider. 5877 03:38:50,788 --> 03:38:51,455 Our issue is with 5878 03:38:51,455 --> 03:38:51,889 the restrictive advertising 5879 03:38:51,889 --> 03:38:52,623 requirements. 5880 03:38:52,623 --> 03:38:55,230 These requirements could extend 5881 03:38:56,193 --> 03:38:56,860 to internet listing services 5882 03:38:56,860 --> 03:38:57,428 social media posts, printed 5883 03:38:57,428 --> 03:38:59,428 advertisements, broker 5884 03:39:01,265 --> 03:39:01,966 materials and third party 5885 03:39:01,966 --> 03:39:04,366 marketing platforms that often 5886 03:39:05,636 --> 03:39:06,170 lack the technical capacity to 5887 03:39:06,170 --> 03:39:06,571 display the required 5888 03:39:06,571 --> 03:39:08,571 information. 5889 03:39:10,808 --> 03:39:11,409 For an admittedly extreme 5890 03:39:11,409 --> 03:39:13,809 example, does a garbage 5891 03:39:15,546 --> 03:39:16,347 disposal replacement fee need 5892 03:39:16,347 --> 03:39:17,215 to be outlined in your social 5893 03:39:17,215 --> 03:39:20,518 media post about your home for 5894 03:39:20,518 --> 03:39:21,285 rent? 5895 03:39:21,285 --> 03:39:21,919 >> I'd like to encourage 5896 03:39:21,919 --> 03:39:22,619 the Council to think about 5897 03:39:22,619 --> 03:39:25,619 the cumulative impact of these 5898 03:39:25,622 --> 03:39:26,324 policies. 5899 03:39:26,324 --> 03:39:27,570 No single regulation creates a 5900 03:39:27,570 --> 03:39:30,570 housing crisis but every new 5901 03:39:30,995 --> 03:39:31,629 mandate, every new disclosure 5902 03:39:31,629 --> 03:39:34,290 requirement and every new 5903 03:39:35,499 --> 03:39:36,200 compliance obligation adds 5904 03:39:36,200 --> 03:39:36,700 friction to an already heavily 5905 03:39:36,700 --> 03:39:38,700 regulated market. 5906 03:39:40,737 --> 03:39:41,306 Viewed collectively this they 5907 03:39:41,306 --> 03:39:41,873 significantly increase 5908 03:39:41,873 --> 03:39:43,873 regulatory complexity 5909 03:39:45,543 --> 03:39:46,144 compliance costs and 5910 03:39:46,144 --> 03:39:48,144 operational uncertainty. 5911 03:39:50,281 --> 03:39:51,490 Those burdens fall especially 5912 03:39:51,490 --> 03:39:51,716 hard on small housing providers 5913 03:39:51,716 --> 03:39:54,716 who don't have the in-house 5914 03:39:54,818 --> 03:39:55,220 attorney or compliance 5915 03:39:55,220 --> 03:39:55,819 departments. 5916 03:39:55,819 --> 03:39:56,488 Many simply decide that 5917 03:39:56,488 --> 03:39:58,888 continuing to provide rental 5918 03:40:00,457 --> 03:40:01,192 housing is no longer worth 5919 03:40:01,192 --> 03:40:04,192 the growing legal and financial 5920 03:40:05,960 --> 03:40:05,697 risk and this conversation 5921 03:40:05,697 --> 03:40:06,197 comes at a particularly 5922 03:40:06,197 --> 03:40:08,197 important moment. 5923 03:40:10,701 --> 03:40:11,302 Economic data already shows a 5924 03:40:11,302 --> 03:40:12,300 significant slowdown in 5925 03:40:12,300 --> 03:40:14,300 multifamily housing production 5926 03:40:16,241 --> 03:40:18,641 beginning around 2028 and now 5927 03:40:20,111 --> 03:40:20,845 the end of today's development 5928 03:40:20,845 --> 03:40:21,513 pipeline is completed and fewer 5929 03:40:21,513 --> 03:40:23,513 financially viable projects 5930 03:40:25,830 --> 03:40:25,750 move forward. 5931 03:40:25,750 --> 03:40:28,150 This should concern everyone 5932 03:40:29,887 --> 03:40:30,221 who believes we need more 5933 03:40:30,221 --> 03:40:30,822 housing. 5934 03:40:30,822 --> 03:40:31,489 Housing projects aren't 5935 03:40:31,489 --> 03:40:34,489 financed on base rent alone 5936 03:40:35,360 --> 03:40:36,600 They're financed based on 5937 03:40:36,600 --> 03:40:38,460 expected operating income And 5938 03:40:39,931 --> 03:40:40,665 those all those revenue sources 5939 03:40:40,665 --> 03:40:41,266 are included in the financial 5940 03:40:41,266 --> 03:40:43,666 models that lenders and 5941 03:40:44,902 --> 03:40:45,503 investors use to determine 5942 03:40:45,503 --> 03:40:46,710 whether today's projects 5943 03:40:46,710 --> 03:40:48,710 qualify for financing. 5944 03:40:49,841 --> 03:40:50,442 Against that backdrop, reducing 5945 03:40:50,442 --> 03:40:52,442 revenue certainty while 5946 03:40:54,512 --> 03:40:55,213 increasing regulatory complexes 5947 03:40:55,213 --> 03:40:55,814 sends the wrong signal at 5948 03:40:55,814 --> 03:40:58,214 exactly the wrong time. 5949 03:41:00,384 --> 03:41:01,860 If we want more housing in 2030 5950 03:41:01,860 --> 03:41:01,486 we have to care about project 5951 03:41:01,486 --> 03:41:03,486 feasibility. 5952 03:41:04,990 --> 03:41:08,590 In 2026 a project that can't be 5953 03:41:09,961 --> 03:41:10,595 financed is no different than a 5954 03:41:10,595 --> 03:41:10,962 project that's never been 5955 03:41:10,962 --> 03:41:12,962 approved. 5956 03:41:14,980 --> 03:41:14,966 Both result in fewer homes. 5957 03:41:14,966 --> 03:41:15,634 So I ask you to think about 5958 03:41:15,634 --> 03:41:18,340 does this ordinance actually 5959 03:41:19,337 --> 03:41:19,971 achieve the affordability that 5960 03:41:19,971 --> 03:41:22,971 we are all working toward? 5961 03:41:24,176 --> 03:41:24,876 And I'll close with this. 5962 03:41:24,876 --> 03:41:25,310 I know everyone here shares 5963 03:41:25,310 --> 03:41:27,310 the same goal. 5964 03:41:29,114 --> 03:41:29,681 We want more housing, greater 5965 03:41:29,681 --> 03:41:30,349 affordability and more 5966 03:41:30,349 --> 03:41:32,749 opportunity for San Diegans. 5967 03:41:33,685 --> 03:41:34,286 Housing providers are not 5968 03:41:34,286 --> 03:41:34,886 obstacles to solving San 5969 03:41:34,886 --> 03:41:36,886 Diego's housing crisis. 5970 03:41:38,422 --> 03:41:39,124 We are indispensable partners 5971 03:41:39,124 --> 03:41:42,124 in the building preserving and 5972 03:41:43,280 --> 03:41:43,729 operating of the homes that our 5973 03:41:43,729 --> 03:41:46,729 communities rely on every day. 5974 03:41:47,666 --> 03:41:48,366 The California Apartment 5975 03:41:48,366 --> 03:41:49,340 Association respectfully urges 5976 03:41:49,340 --> 03:41:52,340 you to reject this ordinance 5977 03:41:53,137 --> 03:41:53,772 and instead pursue policies 5978 03:41:53,772 --> 03:41:55,772 that increase transparency 5979 03:41:57,509 --> 03:41:57,909 without reducing housing 5980 03:41:57,909 --> 03:41:58,277 opportunity. 5981 03:41:58,277 --> 03:41:58,644 Thank you. 5982 03:41:58,644 --> 03:42:00,644 Thank you. 5983 03:42:04,783 --> 03:42:05,117 Our next speaker is David Baker 5984 03:42:05,117 --> 03:42:07,117 . 5985 03:42:10,189 --> 03:42:10,956 Hello, Council. 5986 03:42:10,956 --> 03:42:11,689 >> My name is David Baker. 5987 03:42:11,689 --> 03:42:14,660 I work with an organization 5988 03:42:14,660 --> 03:42:15,360 that helps young people exit 5989 03:42:15,360 --> 03:42:15,694 homelessness and secure stable 5990 03:42:15,694 --> 03:42:17,694 housing. 5991 03:42:20,650 --> 03:42:22,465 I'm here to support 5992 03:42:24,236 --> 03:42:24,870 the ordinance not only for 5993 03:42:24,870 --> 03:42:25,637 the transparency that it 5994 03:42:25,637 --> 03:42:29,237 encourages but also we have a 5995 03:42:29,508 --> 03:42:30,141 very valuable tool that we use 5996 03:42:30,141 --> 03:42:30,876 when helping people secure 5997 03:42:30,876 --> 03:42:33,876 housing And these are vouchers. 5998 03:42:34,847 --> 03:42:35,547 When we go to make a deal a 5999 03:42:35,547 --> 03:42:35,881 young person can do everything 6000 03:42:35,881 --> 03:42:37,881 correct. 6001 03:42:39,183 --> 03:42:39,852 They can pass the application, 6002 03:42:39,852 --> 03:42:42,852 they can have their deposit 6003 03:42:43,723 --> 03:42:44,589 ready, all the things. 6004 03:42:44,589 --> 03:42:48,189 However, if the rent is even $1 6005 03:42:48,560 --> 03:42:49,127 over what we anticipate, 6006 03:42:49,127 --> 03:42:49,495 the entire deal is off 6007 03:42:49,495 --> 03:42:51,495 the table. 6008 03:42:53,498 --> 03:42:54,980 And so often we see that young 6009 03:42:54,980 --> 03:42:54,799 people are almost across 6010 03:42:54,799 --> 03:42:55,167 the finish line ready to sign 6011 03:42:55,167 --> 03:42:57,167 the lease. 6012 03:42:58,204 --> 03:43:01,804 And then we see $1 that takes 6013 03:43:03,209 --> 03:43:03,843 us back to instable city and 6014 03:43:03,843 --> 03:43:04,510 experiencing homelessness. 6015 03:43:04,510 --> 03:43:07,646 So I'm here to ask for your 6016 03:43:07,646 --> 03:43:08,314 support and I think this 6017 03:43:08,314 --> 03:43:08,881 ordinance is certainly worth 6018 03:43:08,881 --> 03:43:09,248 more in conversation. 6019 03:43:09,248 --> 03:43:09,615 Thank you. 6020 03:43:09,615 --> 03:43:11,615 Thank you. 6021 03:43:12,618 --> 03:43:14,618 Claire Snyder. 6022 03:43:18,157 --> 03:43:18,924 >> Good afternoon. 6023 03:43:18,924 --> 03:43:19,657 My name is Claire Snyder and 6024 03:43:19,657 --> 03:43:22,661 I'm a renter in District three. 6025 03:43:22,661 --> 03:43:23,262 Hidden rental fees make housing 6026 03:43:23,262 --> 03:43:23,929 more expensive and less 6027 03:43:23,929 --> 03:43:24,263 predictable for renters like 6028 03:43:24,263 --> 03:43:26,263 myself. 6029 03:43:27,766 --> 03:43:28,467 I recently moved eight days ago 6030 03:43:28,467 --> 03:43:32,380 because I had an ongoing mice 6031 03:43:32,380 --> 03:43:32,772 infestation that my previous 6032 03:43:32,772 --> 03:43:33,238 landlord refused to do anything 6033 03:43:33,238 --> 03:43:35,238 about honestly. 6034 03:43:37,176 --> 03:43:37,742 And during my search for 6035 03:43:37,742 --> 03:43:38,411 housing I encountered 6036 03:43:38,411 --> 03:43:40,411 application fees, screening 6037 03:43:41,681 --> 03:43:42,248 fees and more. 6038 03:43:42,248 --> 03:43:42,882 I applied for multiple 6039 03:43:42,882 --> 03:43:44,882 different apartments which 6040 03:43:46,152 --> 03:43:46,886 required me to pay over $300 6041 03:43:46,886 --> 03:43:47,486 application fees And also in my 6042 03:43:47,486 --> 03:43:49,886 search I encountered pet 6043 03:43:51,490 --> 03:43:52,291 screening fees which was an 6044 03:43:52,291 --> 03:43:55,962 additional fee I had to pay to 6045 03:43:55,962 --> 03:43:56,662 screen my dog. 6046 03:43:56,662 --> 03:43:57,329 And many of these property 6047 03:43:57,329 --> 03:43:59,729 owners or managers wouldn't 6048 03:44:00,666 --> 03:44:01,333 tell me what the restrictions 6049 03:44:01,333 --> 03:44:04,333 were, what they were looking 6050 03:44:05,671 --> 03:44:06,400 for with this pet screening fee 6051 03:44:06,400 --> 03:44:06,873 . 6052 03:44:06,873 --> 03:44:07,807 And so I just didn't apply to 6053 03:44:07,807 --> 03:44:10,900 them because why would I pay an 6054 03:44:10,900 --> 03:44:10,676 additional $30 to have my dog 6055 03:44:10,676 --> 03:44:11,611 which is going to be really 6056 03:44:11,611 --> 03:44:14,547 scary to a lot of these housing 6057 03:44:14,547 --> 03:44:15,248 providers in here a 40 pound 6058 03:44:15,248 --> 03:44:15,748 pit bull was going to be 6059 03:44:15,748 --> 03:44:17,748 rejected anyways. 6060 03:44:19,552 --> 03:44:20,386 So rent is expensive enough. 6061 03:44:20,386 --> 03:44:20,887 >> I urge you to vote yes and 6062 03:44:20,887 --> 03:44:21,487 that's what I did. 6063 03:44:21,487 --> 03:44:23,990 Thank you for your time. 6064 03:44:23,990 --> 03:44:24,624 Our next speaker is Carmen 6065 03:44:24,624 --> 03:44:27,240 Venezuela Valdez While she 6066 03:44:29,228 --> 03:44:29,929 comes to the microphone I could 6067 03:44:29,929 --> 03:44:33,529 I also call up Tristin Berry, 6068 03:44:34,670 --> 03:44:36,467 Liliana Soriano, Erin Hahn, 6069 03:44:38,404 --> 03:44:39,720 Lupe Rojas and Nicole Lilly. 6070 03:44:39,720 --> 03:44:39,339 Please come sit in the front 6071 03:44:39,339 --> 03:44:41,339 row. 6072 03:44:43,911 --> 03:44:44,577 Please begin. 6073 03:44:44,577 --> 03:44:45,411 Hi, my name is Carmen. 6074 03:44:45,411 --> 03:44:47,680 I'm a d9 resident and I'm here 6075 03:44:47,680 --> 03:44:48,381 with you all to urge you to 6076 03:44:48,381 --> 03:44:49,349 support this item Through much 6077 03:44:49,349 --> 03:44:53,219 of our work as a youth serving 6078 03:44:53,219 --> 03:44:53,920 organization, a consistent area 6079 03:44:53,920 --> 03:44:56,920 of concern for our communities 6080 03:44:57,857 --> 03:44:58,658 is housing and a big issue Are 6081 03:44:58,658 --> 03:44:59,392 these fees, Are there are fees 6082 03:44:59,392 --> 03:45:00,930 everywhere And the rent that we 6083 03:45:00,930 --> 03:45:02,493 are originally getting hooked 6084 03:45:03,960 --> 03:45:03,696 on with or that is advertised 6085 03:45:03,696 --> 03:45:04,530 to us is never actually 6086 03:45:04,530 --> 03:45:07,467 the real rent that we have to 6087 03:45:07,467 --> 03:45:08,334 pay. 6088 03:45:08,334 --> 03:45:08,968 Hidden fees make living in San 6089 03:45:08,968 --> 03:45:09,669 Diego even less possible. 6090 03:45:09,669 --> 03:45:12,438 In my personal experience I'm 6091 03:45:12,438 --> 03:45:13,106 already having to struggle with 6092 03:45:13,106 --> 03:45:16,106 many issues that myself and 6093 03:45:16,810 --> 03:45:17,444 other youth are experiencing 6094 03:45:17,444 --> 03:45:17,943 like food is incredibly 6095 03:45:17,943 --> 03:45:18,611 expensive Gas and 6096 03:45:18,611 --> 03:45:20,611 transportation schooling is 6097 03:45:21,848 --> 03:45:22,582 expensive Trying to find stable 6098 03:45:22,582 --> 03:45:23,182 working opportunities with good 6099 03:45:23,182 --> 03:45:25,582 pay to actually sustain 6100 03:45:26,886 --> 03:45:27,619 ourselves with a roof over our 6101 03:45:27,619 --> 03:45:28,455 head is nearly impossible. 6102 03:45:28,455 --> 03:45:32,550 So yeah too many times have 6103 03:45:32,425 --> 03:45:33,930 myself and my siblings who 6104 03:45:33,930 --> 03:45:33,793 often live together have to 6105 03:45:33,793 --> 03:45:36,793 choose between basic needs and 6106 03:45:37,197 --> 03:45:37,931 random fees that we get 6107 03:45:37,931 --> 03:45:38,198 notified about But we deal with 6108 03:45:38,198 --> 03:45:38,965 it. 6109 03:45:38,965 --> 03:45:41,801 We deal with broken things and 6110 03:45:41,801 --> 03:45:42,502 bad bathroom conditions because 6111 03:45:42,502 --> 03:45:43,203 we don't want to get feed 6112 03:45:43,203 --> 03:45:46,203 because then we'll end up 6113 03:45:46,973 --> 03:45:47,674 homeless So I'm thinking that 6114 03:45:47,674 --> 03:45:50,674 does conclude your time trust 6115 03:45:51,511 --> 03:45:55,111 and very Hello Council My name 6116 03:45:56,149 --> 03:45:56,817 is Tristan Berry and I am with 6117 03:45:56,817 --> 03:45:57,517 Youth Will and the San Diego 6118 03:45:57,517 --> 03:45:58,840 Youth Homelessness Consortium 6119 03:45:58,840 --> 03:46:00,520 where I work with you 6120 03:46:00,520 --> 03:46:01,288 throughout our city. 6121 03:46:01,288 --> 03:46:01,955 As someone who was homeless six 6122 03:46:01,955 --> 03:46:02,723 times before he was 18, I'm 6123 03:46:02,723 --> 03:46:04,724 here to strongly urge you to 6124 03:46:04,724 --> 03:46:05,291 vote yes on item 330 And rental 6125 03:46:05,291 --> 03:46:07,691 fees make housing more 6126 03:46:09,763 --> 03:46:10,163 expensive and less predictable 6127 03:46:10,163 --> 03:46:10,730 for renters. 6128 03:46:10,730 --> 03:46:11,398 As someone who gets 6129 03:46:11,398 --> 03:46:12,990 the opportunity to talk with 6130 03:46:12,990 --> 03:46:14,768 youth on a nearly daily basis, 6131 03:46:14,768 --> 03:46:15,435 I'm hearing constantly about 6132 03:46:15,435 --> 03:46:16,169 their struggles with cost of 6133 03:46:16,169 --> 03:46:16,470 living and particularly housing 6134 03:46:16,470 --> 03:46:18,470 costs. 6135 03:46:19,206 --> 03:46:19,973 We need to do everything we can 6136 03:46:19,973 --> 03:46:20,640 to ensure that these youth know 6137 03:46:20,640 --> 03:46:21,340 exactly what they're getting 6138 03:46:21,340 --> 03:46:23,910 into and what they're going to 6139 03:46:23,910 --> 03:46:24,644 be paying when they get start 6140 03:46:24,644 --> 03:46:25,245 renting a new apartment So they 6141 03:46:25,245 --> 03:46:27,645 aren't there aren't any 6142 03:46:28,315 --> 03:46:29,160 surprises In addition to 6143 03:46:29,160 --> 03:46:29,716 supporting the ordinance being 6144 03:46:29,716 --> 03:46:30,283 reviewed today, I also want to 6145 03:46:30,283 --> 03:46:33,283 uplift our time to act 6146 03:46:33,320 --> 03:46:33,920 recommendation that the city 6147 03:46:33,920 --> 03:46:34,621 Council should explore 6148 03:46:34,621 --> 03:46:35,321 the addition of language that 6149 03:46:35,321 --> 03:46:35,956 would prohibit landlords from 6150 03:46:35,956 --> 03:46:38,956 charging a higher rent for 6151 03:46:39,250 --> 03:46:39,459 additional tenancy living in 6152 03:46:39,459 --> 03:46:40,127 the same unit. 6153 03:46:40,127 --> 03:46:40,660 As I mentioned, many of our 6154 03:46:40,660 --> 03:46:42,660 youth are navigating 6155 03:46:42,796 --> 03:46:43,563 unpredictable job market and 6156 03:46:43,563 --> 03:46:44,231 the rising cost of living As a 6157 03:46:44,231 --> 03:46:44,798 result of struggling through 6158 03:46:44,798 --> 03:46:46,798 these they're finding 6159 03:46:49,200 --> 03:46:49,636 themselves unhoused and relying 6160 03:46:49,636 --> 03:46:50,204 on others like friends and 6161 03:46:50,204 --> 03:46:50,871 family more than ever. 6162 03:46:50,871 --> 03:46:51,672 I was one of those kids that 6163 03:46:51,672 --> 03:46:55,141 had to rely on the kindness of 6164 03:46:55,141 --> 03:46:55,442 others to keep a roof over my 6165 03:46:55,442 --> 03:46:56,143 head. 6166 03:46:56,143 --> 03:46:56,810 So I can't imagine a situation 6167 03:46:56,810 --> 03:46:57,311 where we can justify helping 6168 03:46:57,311 --> 03:46:57,678 you do your time. 6169 03:46:57,678 --> 03:46:59,678 Thank you. 6170 03:47:01,948 --> 03:47:02,616 Liliana Soriano Hello Council 6171 03:47:02,616 --> 03:47:05,616 members My name is Liliana. 6172 03:47:06,854 --> 03:47:07,221 >> I'm the director of policy 6173 03:47:07,221 --> 03:47:07,921 at Youth. 6174 03:47:07,921 --> 03:47:08,555 Well we are a youth serving 6175 03:47:08,555 --> 03:47:10,555 advocacy organization and 6176 03:47:11,391 --> 03:47:11,925 amongst young people we have 6177 03:47:11,925 --> 03:47:12,626 surveyed since 2022. 6178 03:47:12,626 --> 03:47:16,226 Now housing has always been a 6179 03:47:16,263 --> 03:47:17,970 concern from cause the stories 6180 03:47:17,970 --> 03:47:17,431 of what it's like to not have a 6181 03:47:17,431 --> 03:47:18,310 shelter. 6182 03:47:18,310 --> 03:47:20,431 Our reasons Young people 6183 03:47:20,667 --> 03:47:21,201 highlight way by housing as an 6184 03:47:21,201 --> 03:47:21,869 issue in the region. 6185 03:47:21,869 --> 03:47:24,869 Housing is not a commodity. 6186 03:47:25,505 --> 03:47:26,206 It's a human right with that I 6187 03:47:26,206 --> 03:47:26,940 support this ordinance before 6188 03:47:26,940 --> 03:47:27,441 you because housing should come 6189 03:47:27,441 --> 03:47:29,441 with transparency. 6190 03:47:30,811 --> 03:47:31,411 That is the bare minimum we can 6191 03:47:31,411 --> 03:47:32,146 do not hidden fees like 6192 03:47:32,146 --> 03:47:34,546 unexpected application fees and 6193 03:47:36,283 --> 03:47:36,983 as if charging for rent and 6194 03:47:36,983 --> 03:47:37,584 gender wasn't enough, today's 6195 03:47:37,584 --> 03:47:40,219 ordinance is also a step 6196 03:47:40,219 --> 03:47:40,887 towards equity and transparency 6197 03:47:40,887 --> 03:47:41,589 for people to know what 6198 03:47:41,589 --> 03:47:42,256 the real cost of their housing 6199 03:47:42,256 --> 03:47:45,256 will be before signing a 6200 03:47:45,593 --> 03:47:46,327 contract. 6201 03:47:46,327 --> 03:47:47,600 Lastly, we urge you to add 6202 03:47:47,600 --> 03:47:47,761 additional language to prohibit 6203 03:47:47,761 --> 03:47:50,161 landlords from charging higher 6204 03:47:50,564 --> 03:47:51,298 rent for additional tenants 6205 03:47:51,298 --> 03:47:54,898 living in the same unit Because 6206 03:47:55,202 --> 03:47:55,870 why would you charge for more 6207 03:47:55,870 --> 03:47:56,203 when you're already getting 6208 03:47:56,203 --> 03:47:56,903 enough? 6209 03:47:56,903 --> 03:48:00,503 It's a very expensive city to 6210 03:48:00,940 --> 03:48:01,308 live in support to this 6211 03:48:01,308 --> 03:48:01,742 ordinance. 6212 03:48:01,742 --> 03:48:02,443 >> The rest of 6213 03:48:02,443 --> 03:48:03,100 the councilmembers that didn't 6214 03:48:03,100 --> 03:48:05,410 offer this Thank you. 6215 03:48:11,685 --> 03:48:12,286 >> Thank you Aaron Hariharan 6216 03:48:12,286 --> 03:48:14,286 Good afternoon Counsel. 6217 03:48:17,910 --> 03:48:17,925 My name is Auto Hariharan. 6218 03:48:17,925 --> 03:48:18,659 I am a recent graduate of uc 6219 03:48:18,659 --> 03:48:21,362 San Diego and a housing justice 6220 03:48:21,362 --> 03:48:22,129 director at our time to act. 6221 03:48:22,129 --> 03:48:22,830 Two years ago when I first 6222 03:48:22,830 --> 03:48:25,230 started looking for apartments 6223 03:48:26,500 --> 03:48:30,100 moving off campus from uc San 6224 03:48:30,371 --> 03:48:33,371 Diego, I spent over $600 before 6225 03:48:34,750 --> 03:48:34,408 I ever even paid my first rent 6226 03:48:34,408 --> 03:48:35,750 amount. 6227 03:48:35,750 --> 03:48:38,750 It was spent on application 6228 03:48:39,130 --> 03:48:39,546 fees and nonrefundable 6229 03:48:39,546 --> 03:48:40,314 withholding deposit. 6230 03:48:40,314 --> 03:48:41,282 This is not just my experience 6231 03:48:41,282 --> 03:48:44,170 but the experience of a lot of 6232 03:48:44,170 --> 03:48:44,418 my friends and former 6233 03:48:44,418 --> 03:48:46,418 classmates. 6234 03:48:48,489 --> 03:48:49,156 So I would like to support this 6235 03:48:49,156 --> 03:48:49,656 ordinance in addition to my 6236 03:48:49,656 --> 03:48:51,656 strong support for 6237 03:48:53,794 --> 03:48:54,495 the ordinance, I would also 6238 03:48:54,495 --> 03:48:55,229 like to urge the City Council 6239 03:48:55,229 --> 03:48:57,629 to explore additional language, 6240 03:48:58,299 --> 03:48:58,900 additional language that would 6241 03:48:58,900 --> 03:48:59,534 prohibit landlords from 6242 03:48:59,534 --> 03:49:02,534 charging a higher rent for 6243 03:49:03,371 --> 03:49:03,805 additional tenants living in 6244 03:49:03,805 --> 03:49:04,738 the same unit. 6245 03:49:04,738 --> 03:49:08,938 I see this a lot with students 6246 03:49:09,444 --> 03:49:09,977 especially because they want to 6247 03:49:09,977 --> 03:49:10,678 stay close to their 6248 03:49:10,678 --> 03:49:13,580 universities So they all had a 6249 03:49:13,580 --> 03:49:14,282 job in a small apartment and 6250 03:49:14,282 --> 03:49:14,549 then end up paying extra for 6251 03:49:14,549 --> 03:49:14,982 it. 6252 03:49:14,982 --> 03:49:15,449 >> Thank you. 6253 03:49:15,449 --> 03:49:17,449 Thank you. 6254 03:49:22,690 --> 03:49:22,990 Our next speaker is Lupe Rojas 6255 03:49:22,990 --> 03:49:23,291 . 6256 03:49:23,291 --> 03:49:24,580 Lupe. 6257 03:49:24,580 --> 03:49:27,580 Do you have a presentation? 6258 03:49:28,396 --> 03:49:28,896 Yes, it is a joint presentation 6259 03:49:28,896 --> 03:49:30,896 with Nicole Lilly. 6260 03:49:32,305 --> 03:49:32,567 >> We both got it in time To 6261 03:49:32,567 --> 03:49:33,670 us. 6262 03:49:33,670 --> 03:49:34,350 All right, great. 6263 03:49:34,350 --> 03:49:38,235 Let me let me just verify all 6264 03:49:41,843 --> 03:49:44,843 the time seeders okay, Mohamed 6265 03:49:47,215 --> 03:49:47,615 Mohamed El. 6266 03:49:47,615 --> 03:49:47,916 Yes. 6267 03:49:47,916 --> 03:49:48,283 Okay. 6268 03:49:48,283 --> 03:49:50,283 Thank you. 6269 03:49:51,190 --> 03:49:54,190 How a batch habit too. 6270 03:49:56,391 --> 03:49:56,858 Okay. 6271 03:49:56,858 --> 03:49:57,158 Jessie Schmidt. 6272 03:49:57,158 --> 03:49:59,158 Okay. 6273 03:50:00,895 --> 03:50:02,895 Nicole Lilly. 6274 03:50:05,700 --> 03:50:06,201 Hey, Alex Castillo. 6275 03:50:06,201 --> 03:50:08,201 >> Okay. 6276 03:50:11,373 --> 03:50:11,940 Patricia Mondragon. 6277 03:50:11,940 --> 03:50:13,940 Sparky Mitra. 6278 03:50:16,644 --> 03:50:16,944 Rose Dang. 6279 03:50:16,944 --> 03:50:17,412 Okay. 6280 03:50:17,412 --> 03:50:19,412 Mary Cruz. 6281 03:50:21,749 --> 03:50:23,749 Mendiola Okay. 6282 03:50:26,921 --> 03:50:27,322 Ashley Mendiola. 6283 03:50:27,322 --> 03:50:28,123 Okay, great. 6284 03:50:28,123 --> 03:50:28,423 You will have 11 minutes total. 6285 03:50:28,423 --> 03:50:30,423 Okay. 6286 03:50:31,860 --> 03:50:32,460 Thank you. 6287 03:50:32,460 --> 03:50:33,600 >> Thank you. 6288 03:50:33,600 --> 03:50:35,600 Hello, council members. 6289 03:50:36,331 --> 03:50:37,310 My name is whether I'm a policy 6290 03:50:37,310 --> 03:50:37,665 advocate with Metro Community 6291 03:50:37,665 --> 03:50:38,366 Advocacy Network and I am 6292 03:50:38,366 --> 03:50:41,366 speaking for the Coalition for 6293 03:50:42,700 --> 03:50:42,771 Equitable Development which is 6294 03:50:42,771 --> 03:50:43,271 comprised of 20 organizations 6295 03:50:43,271 --> 03:50:45,271 across the region. 6296 03:50:48,276 --> 03:50:49,100 We. 6297 03:50:49,100 --> 03:50:49,311 >> Hello, my name is Nicole 6298 03:50:49,311 --> 03:50:50,278 Lilly. 6299 03:50:50,278 --> 03:50:51,646 I'm a 23 year old renter and 6300 03:50:51,646 --> 03:50:52,347 District three and 6301 03:50:52,347 --> 03:50:52,746 the executive director of our 6302 03:50:52,746 --> 03:50:53,348 Time to Act. 6303 03:50:53,348 --> 03:50:54,150 >> I'm also a member of 6304 03:50:54,150 --> 03:50:56,415 the Coalition for Equitable 6305 03:51:00,822 --> 03:51:01,323 Development and the First Lady. 6306 03:51:01,323 --> 03:51:03,323 >> Oh yes. 6307 03:51:06,260 --> 03:51:06,728 So as we heard, housing in San 6308 03:51:06,728 --> 03:51:07,562 Diego is already expensive And 6309 03:51:07,562 --> 03:51:10,966 then when you have all of these 6310 03:51:10,966 --> 03:51:11,800 hidden fees it becomes even 6311 03:51:11,800 --> 03:51:15,400 more unaffordable for a lot of 6312 03:51:16,370 --> 03:51:16,738 the population that we have out 6313 03:51:16,738 --> 03:51:19,138 here, especially younger folks 6314 03:51:21,243 --> 03:51:21,977 who are still making a living 6315 03:51:21,977 --> 03:51:22,277 and finding stability in their 6316 03:51:22,277 --> 03:51:24,277 lives. 6317 03:51:26,114 --> 03:51:26,782 Unfortunately more than half of 6318 03:51:26,782 --> 03:51:29,451 the housing costs burden San 6319 03:51:29,451 --> 03:51:30,184 Diego and spend more than 30% 6320 03:51:30,184 --> 03:51:30,819 of their income on housing. 6321 03:51:30,819 --> 03:51:32,819 >> Next slide please. 6322 03:51:35,891 --> 03:51:39,491 As you already learn young fees 6323 03:51:40,996 --> 03:51:41,697 are any additional fees that 6324 03:51:41,697 --> 03:51:42,397 are not reflected on the that 6325 03:51:42,397 --> 03:51:46,168 on the sorry on the price that 6326 03:51:46,168 --> 03:51:46,802 is being advertised here you 6327 03:51:46,802 --> 03:51:47,436 see it being advertised at 6328 03:51:47,436 --> 03:51:49,436 $2,200 and everything else 6329 03:51:52,808 --> 03:51:53,442 listed is considered a junk fee 6330 03:51:53,442 --> 03:51:56,442 for not being disclosed on 6331 03:51:57,279 --> 03:51:57,679 the lease that is signed by 6332 03:51:57,679 --> 03:51:58,246 the tenant. 6333 03:51:58,246 --> 03:51:58,613 >> Next slide please. 6334 03:51:58,613 --> 03:52:00,613 Thank you. 6335 03:52:03,352 --> 03:52:04,520 So we see it as a something 6336 03:52:04,520 --> 03:52:04,753 that is unfair and necessary. 6337 03:52:04,753 --> 03:52:07,753 The practices are so predatory 6338 03:52:08,790 --> 03:52:09,424 that they'd be laughable 6339 03:52:09,424 --> 03:52:12,424 elsewhere It would be like 6340 03:52:14,163 --> 03:52:14,862 having to pay some kind of back 6341 03:52:14,862 --> 03:52:15,597 handling fee at the airport or 6342 03:52:15,597 --> 03:52:18,597 paying for car maintenance When 6343 03:52:19,434 --> 03:52:20,102 you do groceries And obviously 6344 03:52:20,102 --> 03:52:20,669 that's something that should 6345 03:52:20,669 --> 03:52:21,336 already be covered by 6346 03:52:21,336 --> 03:52:23,736 the businesses because their 6347 03:52:24,906 --> 03:52:28,506 job is to provide good customer 6348 03:52:30,179 --> 03:52:30,879 service and these are all fees 6349 03:52:30,879 --> 03:52:33,879 that obviously should be paid 6350 03:52:36,619 --> 03:52:37,319 by them And a lot of the a lot 6351 03:52:37,319 --> 03:52:40,550 of the renters are being asked 6352 03:52:40,550 --> 03:52:42,455 to pay for them. 6353 03:52:46,362 --> 03:52:47,620 >> And next slide here we have 6354 03:52:47,620 --> 03:52:50,620 some stories that we've heard 6355 03:52:51,100 --> 03:52:51,901 from our community members and 6356 03:52:51,901 --> 03:52:52,268 these do not pertain to any 6357 03:52:52,268 --> 03:52:52,968 district. 6358 03:52:52,968 --> 03:52:55,968 They're just stories that have 6359 03:52:56,500 --> 03:52:56,405 been gathered all across 6360 03:52:56,405 --> 03:52:58,405 the region. 6361 03:53:02,244 --> 03:53:03,780 >> Next slide. 6362 03:53:03,780 --> 03:53:03,713 >> Unfortunately some landlords 6363 03:53:03,713 --> 03:53:06,713 ignored the basic facts by 6364 03:53:07,950 --> 03:53:08,651 arguing that there's no clear 6365 03:53:08,651 --> 03:53:09,318 data driven justification for 6366 03:53:09,318 --> 03:53:12,318 this ordinance Yet more than 6367 03:53:13,422 --> 03:53:14,890 25% of residents spend half of 6368 03:53:14,890 --> 03:53:14,690 their income on housing even 6369 03:53:14,690 --> 03:53:17,690 And we know that even 6370 03:53:18,561 --> 03:53:19,295 the smallest fee add on to that 6371 03:53:19,295 --> 03:53:22,895 burden and obviously leads to a 6372 03:53:24,734 --> 03:53:27,134 lot of financial instability. 6373 03:53:29,238 --> 03:53:30,600 >> Here you can see the power 6374 03:53:30,600 --> 03:53:30,706 imbalance On one side we have 6375 03:53:30,706 --> 03:53:34,306 the landlord who set lease for 6376 03:53:35,711 --> 03:53:36,479 setting the leases control fees 6377 03:53:36,479 --> 03:53:36,779 and who happen to be gaining 6378 03:53:36,779 --> 03:53:37,480 power. 6379 03:53:37,480 --> 03:53:38,146 And on the other side we have 6380 03:53:38,146 --> 03:53:41,146 the renters who need housing 6381 03:53:41,317 --> 03:53:42,510 have limited alternatives and 6382 03:53:42,510 --> 03:53:45,651 do not hold people very little 6383 03:53:47,560 --> 03:53:47,523 bargaining power and some 6384 03:53:47,523 --> 03:53:49,523 versus reality. 6385 03:53:53,763 --> 03:53:54,297 >> Before I pass it on onto my 6386 03:53:54,297 --> 03:53:54,897 colleague there's a 6387 03:53:54,897 --> 03:53:55,598 misconception that this 6388 03:53:55,598 --> 03:53:57,998 ordinance hurts landlords and 6389 03:53:58,667 --> 03:53:59,302 that it MAY impact future 6390 03:53:59,302 --> 03:53:59,969 development but in reality 6391 03:53:59,969 --> 03:54:01,969 responsible landlords budget 6392 03:54:05,707 --> 03:54:06,275 This closed plan and price 6393 03:54:06,275 --> 03:54:08,275 honestly and mandatory 6394 03:54:10,646 --> 03:54:11,346 transparency and fairness does 6395 03:54:11,346 --> 03:54:12,480 not magically reduce the need 6396 03:54:12,480 --> 03:54:15,648 and the demand for housing in 6397 03:54:17,687 --> 03:54:18,154 San Diego. 6398 03:54:18,154 --> 03:54:19,121 Thank you Ben. 6399 03:54:19,121 --> 03:54:23,459 I want to begin by my part of 6400 03:54:23,459 --> 03:54:24,127 the presentation by debunking 6401 03:54:24,127 --> 03:54:24,494 the myth of the cost burden 6402 03:54:24,494 --> 03:54:24,994 Landlord. 6403 03:54:24,994 --> 03:54:26,994 Next slide please. 6404 03:54:29,298 --> 03:54:29,865 This assertion again it's out 6405 03:54:29,865 --> 03:54:30,633 of touch with reality. 6406 03:54:30,633 --> 03:54:31,367 It is not the job of city 6407 03:54:31,367 --> 03:54:34,367 council or renters to subsidize 6408 03:54:35,103 --> 03:54:35,838 landlords who don't effectively 6409 03:54:35,838 --> 03:54:36,506 budget for rising costs or seek 6410 03:54:36,506 --> 03:54:37,206 to eke out every last penny 6411 03:54:37,206 --> 03:54:40,206 from a public already drowning 6412 03:54:42,110 --> 03:54:42,578 in cost of living. 6413 03:54:42,578 --> 03:54:43,246 Landlords should know 6414 03:54:43,246 --> 03:54:43,913 the business they're in well 6415 03:54:43,913 --> 03:54:46,313 enough to anticipate account 6416 03:54:47,951 --> 03:54:48,584 for and disclose the regular 6417 03:54:48,584 --> 03:54:49,152 cost and application lease 6418 03:54:49,152 --> 03:54:49,552 agreement and monthly 6419 03:54:49,552 --> 03:54:51,552 statements. 6420 03:54:53,690 --> 03:54:54,357 As business owners landlords 6421 03:54:54,357 --> 03:54:55,910 can and should set aside 6422 03:54:55,910 --> 03:54:55,691 reserves to cover unanticipated 6423 03:54:55,691 --> 03:54:58,910 costs that arise between 6424 03:54:59,629 --> 03:55:00,396 signing and renewing leases. 6425 03:55:00,396 --> 03:55:01,980 If landlords can't maintain 6426 03:55:01,980 --> 03:55:01,765 business they have the option 6427 03:55:01,765 --> 03:55:04,765 to sell to generate income. 6428 03:55:06,102 --> 03:55:06,769 Renters often have nowhere else 6429 03:55:06,769 --> 03:55:07,437 to go and constantly rising 6430 03:55:07,437 --> 03:55:07,871 prices outside of housing to 6431 03:55:07,871 --> 03:55:09,871 contend with. 6432 03:55:12,107 --> 03:55:12,809 I want to reiterate 6433 03:55:12,809 --> 03:55:13,476 the comments of my colleague. 6434 03:55:13,476 --> 03:55:14,210 Mandating basic transparency 6435 03:55:14,210 --> 03:55:17,210 and fairness does not magically 6436 03:55:18,470 --> 03:55:18,615 reduce the need and demand of 6437 03:55:18,615 --> 03:55:19,215 housing in San Diego. 6438 03:55:19,215 --> 03:55:21,215 In reality implementing 6439 03:55:24,154 --> 03:55:24,721 protections in this order that 6440 03:55:24,721 --> 03:55:25,288 this ordinance has has 6441 03:55:25,288 --> 03:55:25,955 the potential to take 6442 03:55:25,955 --> 03:55:28,355 significant cost burden and 6443 03:55:29,993 --> 03:55:30,626 pressure off of San Diego 6444 03:55:30,626 --> 03:55:31,294 renters and increase their 6445 03:55:31,294 --> 03:55:31,961 purchasing power and in fact 6446 03:55:31,961 --> 03:55:34,361 increase demand for housing. 6447 03:55:35,632 --> 03:55:36,499 Next slide please. 6448 03:55:36,499 --> 03:55:36,967 So let's talk about what this 6449 03:55:36,967 --> 03:55:37,635 ordinance does. 6450 03:55:37,635 --> 03:55:40,350 The residential rental price 6451 03:55:42,239 --> 03:55:42,905 gouging for exploitation and 6452 03:55:42,905 --> 03:55:43,439 cost transparency ordinance 6453 03:55:43,439 --> 03:55:44,174 will require rental 6454 03:55:44,174 --> 03:55:46,174 advertisements clearly disclose 6455 03:55:48,845 --> 03:55:49,479 all costs and fees. 6456 03:55:49,479 --> 03:55:50,180 That includes transparency 6457 03:55:50,180 --> 03:55:50,847 around the purpose, frequency 6458 03:55:50,847 --> 03:55:51,248 and requirements surrounding 6459 03:55:51,248 --> 03:55:53,248 these costs. 6460 03:55:54,784 --> 03:55:55,485 It allows valid screening 6461 03:55:55,485 --> 03:55:56,185 reports from consumer agencies 6462 03:55:56,185 --> 03:56:00,156 to be used for up to 30 days. 6463 03:56:00,156 --> 03:56:00,857 And this element is vital as 6464 03:56:00,857 --> 03:56:01,558 you've heard today And no one 6465 03:56:01,558 --> 03:56:02,224 should have to pay hundreds of 6466 03:56:02,224 --> 03:56:05,224 dollars just to apply for 6467 03:56:06,630 --> 03:56:06,730 housing. 6468 03:56:06,730 --> 03:56:07,364 >> This ordinance also caps 6469 03:56:07,364 --> 03:56:08,310 holding deposits at 5% of 6470 03:56:08,310 --> 03:56:10,431 monthly rent and prevents 6471 03:56:11,802 --> 03:56:12,435 predatory behavior by requiring 6472 03:56:12,435 --> 03:56:13,170 that deposits be returned 6473 03:56:13,170 --> 03:56:16,770 whether as a refund or applying 6474 03:56:18,175 --> 03:56:18,675 it to subsequent rent and or 6475 03:56:18,675 --> 03:56:20,675 security deposits. 6476 03:56:22,512 --> 03:56:23,113 It caps all recurring fees at 6477 03:56:23,113 --> 03:56:23,780 5% of monthly rent. 6478 03:56:23,780 --> 03:56:24,514 It accounts for non monthly 6479 03:56:24,514 --> 03:56:24,815 recurring fees through prorated 6480 03:56:24,815 --> 03:56:26,815 rates. 6481 03:56:28,685 --> 03:56:29,352 And this closes loopholes left 6482 03:56:29,352 --> 03:56:30,870 by state laws which as one 6483 03:56:30,870 --> 03:56:33,870 community member shared with me 6484 03:56:33,790 --> 03:56:34,524 allowed their landlord to 6485 03:56:34,524 --> 03:56:37,524 increase their parking fee from 6486 03:56:38,828 --> 03:56:39,496 $30 a month to 300 to get 6487 03:56:39,496 --> 03:56:39,930 around the 10% annual rental 6488 03:56:39,930 --> 03:56:40,597 increase cap. 6489 03:56:40,597 --> 03:56:44,197 It caps late fees a 2% of 6490 03:56:45,502 --> 03:56:46,203 monthly rent and mandates that 6491 03:56:46,203 --> 03:56:46,837 this change can't come unless 6492 03:56:46,837 --> 03:56:47,170 rent is seven or more days 6493 03:56:47,170 --> 03:56:49,170 delayed. 6494 03:56:52,750 --> 03:56:52,743 Preventing As our partners at 6495 03:56:52,743 --> 03:56:53,410 panna shared from residents 6496 03:56:53,410 --> 03:56:54,760 being charged for an on time 6497 03:56:54,760 --> 03:56:57,760 payment that takes longer to 6498 03:56:57,848 --> 03:56:58,448 process. 6499 03:56:58,448 --> 03:56:59,182 It also prioritizes that 6500 03:56:59,182 --> 03:56:59,483 payments go towards rent before 6501 03:56:59,483 --> 03:57:01,483 fees. 6502 03:57:03,787 --> 03:57:04,521 And this I want to emphasize. 6503 03:57:04,521 --> 03:57:07,521 Nearly every young person lease 6504 03:57:08,910 --> 03:57:08,792 I reviewed mandates 6%, 10% or 6505 03:57:08,792 --> 03:57:11,792 higher late fees and includes 6506 03:57:12,396 --> 03:57:13,630 predatory language demanding 6507 03:57:13,630 --> 03:57:13,764 payments apply first to fees 6508 03:57:13,764 --> 03:57:14,431 pushing tenants further behind 6509 03:57:14,431 --> 03:57:14,698 on rent as they try to catch 6510 03:57:14,698 --> 03:57:16,698 up. 6511 03:57:19,300 --> 03:57:19,702 This ordinance prohibits fees 6512 03:57:19,702 --> 03:57:20,370 for ownership and maintenance 6513 03:57:20,370 --> 03:57:23,370 of common household pets or 6514 03:57:24,740 --> 03:57:24,942 charges for basic habitability 6515 03:57:24,942 --> 03:57:25,676 Because as you MAY have seen in 6516 03:57:25,676 --> 03:57:26,410 the stories shared earlier this 6517 03:57:26,410 --> 03:57:28,810 presentation people are already 6518 03:57:30,647 --> 03:57:31,347 living paycheck to paycheck and 6519 03:57:31,347 --> 03:57:32,490 should not have to worry about 6520 03:57:32,490 --> 03:57:32,716 if they're able to keep their 6521 03:57:32,716 --> 03:57:33,150 pet or pay out of pocket for 6522 03:57:33,150 --> 03:57:35,150 pest control. 6523 03:57:37,154 --> 03:57:37,888 >> These postcards will be 6524 03:57:37,888 --> 03:57:38,188 shared with you in the weeks to 6525 03:57:38,188 --> 03:57:38,889 come. 6526 03:57:38,889 --> 03:57:39,590 And there's even more to come. 6527 03:57:39,590 --> 03:57:42,590 These are filled with stories 6528 03:57:42,660 --> 03:57:43,260 of renters and residents all 6529 03:57:43,260 --> 03:57:43,927 over San Diego who are 6530 03:57:43,927 --> 03:57:46,327 struggling with rental junk 6531 03:57:48,198 --> 03:57:48,932 fees and hidden fees and a lack 6532 03:57:48,932 --> 03:57:51,332 of transparency from landlords. 6533 03:57:53,871 --> 03:57:54,572 >> This ordinance ordinance 6534 03:57:54,572 --> 03:57:55,500 mandates as its name states 6535 03:57:55,500 --> 03:57:55,639 transparency. 6536 03:57:55,639 --> 03:57:58,390 It prohibits charging for 6537 03:57:59,910 --> 03:58:00,611 processing fees and requires 6538 03:58:00,611 --> 03:58:01,312 proper 30 day notice and 6539 03:58:01,312 --> 03:58:02,130 written agreement from tenants 6540 03:58:02,130 --> 03:58:02,512 for fees not previously agreed 6541 03:58:02,512 --> 03:58:04,912 upon in the lease. 6542 03:58:06,550 --> 03:58:07,840 That is basic contractual 6543 03:58:07,840 --> 03:58:07,584 contractual respect. 6544 03:58:07,584 --> 03:58:09,584 Next slide please. 6545 03:58:13,824 --> 03:58:14,492 I want to emphasize as a young 6546 03:58:14,492 --> 03:58:15,920 renter, as an organizer who 6547 03:58:15,920 --> 03:58:15,793 works with San Diego is 6548 03:58:15,793 --> 03:58:18,729 experiencing the brunt of our 6549 03:58:18,729 --> 03:58:19,397 housing crisis every day. 6550 03:58:19,397 --> 03:58:20,164 Housing is not a luxury. 6551 03:58:20,164 --> 03:58:23,164 It is a basic necessity. 6552 03:58:24,969 --> 03:58:25,469 Housing has been time and time 6553 03:58:25,469 --> 03:58:26,170 again proven to be 6554 03:58:26,170 --> 03:58:29,170 the foundation for our health, 6555 03:58:30,740 --> 03:58:30,774 education, employment, 6556 03:58:30,774 --> 03:58:31,475 financial stability and access 6557 03:58:31,475 --> 03:58:33,875 to resources and opportunity. 6558 03:58:36,614 --> 03:58:36,946 It determines our life outcomes 6559 03:58:36,946 --> 03:58:37,682 . 6560 03:58:37,682 --> 03:58:38,416 Unpredictable housing costs and 6561 03:58:38,416 --> 03:58:38,849 hidden junk fees are not simply 6562 03:58:38,849 --> 03:58:40,849 inconvenient. 6563 03:58:42,653 --> 03:58:43,386 They cause untold harm to San 6564 03:58:43,386 --> 03:58:43,888 Diego families and communities. 6565 03:58:43,888 --> 03:58:45,888 Next slide please. 6566 03:58:48,459 --> 03:58:48,926 And real protection requires 6567 03:58:48,926 --> 03:58:49,594 accountability. 6568 03:58:49,594 --> 03:58:50,610 This ordinance provides that 6569 03:58:50,610 --> 03:58:50,795 accountability. 6570 03:58:50,795 --> 03:58:53,195 It provides that accountability 6571 03:58:55,366 --> 03:58:56,660 through enforcement where it 6572 03:58:56,660 --> 03:58:56,701 does allow claims to be proven 6573 03:58:56,701 --> 03:58:57,402 in court where a tenant or 6574 03:58:57,402 --> 03:58:59,802 applicant claiming a violation 6575 03:59:01,500 --> 03:59:01,572 MAY file an action against 6576 03:59:01,572 --> 03:59:02,273 the landlord in court. 6577 03:59:02,273 --> 03:59:05,873 And remedies where a tenant or 6578 03:59:06,511 --> 03:59:07,178 applicant MAY seek injunctive 6579 03:59:07,178 --> 03:59:07,778 relief, equitable relief and 6580 03:59:07,778 --> 03:59:08,446 money damages including 6581 03:59:08,446 --> 03:59:11,446 punitive damages in a civil 6582 03:59:12,549 --> 03:59:12,917 action against a landlord for a 6583 03:59:12,917 --> 03:59:13,651 violation. 6584 03:59:13,651 --> 03:59:14,252 And as another community member 6585 03:59:14,252 --> 03:59:14,953 shared everyone deserves 6586 03:59:14,953 --> 03:59:17,855 the right to a roof over their 6587 03:59:17,855 --> 03:59:18,555 head. 6588 03:59:18,555 --> 03:59:19,189 >> This ordinance would make 6589 03:59:19,189 --> 03:59:19,791 the process of applying to 6590 03:59:19,791 --> 03:59:21,791 housing more equitable. 6591 03:59:23,961 --> 03:59:24,696 Next slide please. 6592 03:59:24,696 --> 03:59:25,396 Next, Renters are simply asking 6593 03:59:25,396 --> 03:59:27,796 for fairness and transparency 6594 03:59:28,699 --> 03:59:29,466 to be a two way street. 6595 03:59:29,466 --> 03:59:30,670 >> City officials have a long 6596 03:59:30,670 --> 03:59:32,467 history of propping up 6597 03:59:34,504 --> 03:59:35,105 homeowner and landlord 6598 03:59:35,105 --> 03:59:35,706 investments and treating 6599 03:59:35,706 --> 03:59:36,730 renters as second class 6600 03:59:36,730 --> 03:59:36,707 citizens. 6601 03:59:36,707 --> 03:59:39,107 I have heard dehumanizing 6602 03:59:41,120 --> 03:59:41,713 language about renters from 6603 03:59:41,713 --> 03:59:42,460 this dais as well as previous 6604 03:59:42,460 --> 03:59:44,460 drivers. 6605 03:59:50,755 --> 03:59:51,456 79,000 sorry 79,125. 6606 03:59:51,456 --> 03:59:52,156 An investor owned rental homes 6607 03:59:52,156 --> 03:59:55,756 in San Diego also clarify that 6608 03:59:56,261 --> 03:59:56,995 this is a lucrative business 6609 03:59:56,995 --> 03:59:57,595 and landlords want fairness and 6610 03:59:57,595 --> 03:59:57,929 transparency from their 6611 03:59:57,929 --> 03:59:58,629 tenants. 6612 03:59:58,629 --> 04:00:01,629 But renters deserve that same 6613 04:00:02,133 --> 04:00:03,234 courtesy from their landlords. 6614 04:00:03,234 --> 04:00:08,340 And I want to also say that any 6615 04:00:08,730 --> 04:00:08,773 ethical truly ethical landlord 6616 04:00:08,773 --> 04:00:09,407 would not be worried about any 6617 04:00:09,407 --> 04:00:09,774 of the provisions in this 6618 04:00:09,774 --> 04:00:11,774 ordinance. 6619 04:00:14,613 --> 04:00:15,280 And if you have to call 6620 04:00:15,280 --> 04:00:15,980 yourself an ethical landlord 6621 04:00:15,980 --> 04:00:16,648 rather than actually have your 6622 04:00:16,648 --> 04:00:19,648 tenants up here speaking on 6623 04:00:20,170 --> 04:00:20,452 your behalf, then I don't think 6624 04:00:20,452 --> 04:00:20,952 you are one. 6625 04:00:20,952 --> 04:00:22,952 Next slide please. 6626 04:00:25,923 --> 04:00:26,624 This ordinance will make Sandy 6627 04:00:26,624 --> 04:00:27,258 make calling San Diego home a 6628 04:00:27,258 --> 04:00:27,993 more attainable dream for 6629 04:00:27,993 --> 04:00:31,593 the very people working hard to 6630 04:00:31,763 --> 04:00:32,430 make the city the desirable 6631 04:00:32,430 --> 04:00:33,980 place we love to live in. 6632 04:00:33,980 --> 04:00:35,498 The Coalition for Equitable 6633 04:00:37,200 --> 04:00:37,636 Development is respectfully 6634 04:00:37,636 --> 04:00:38,303 urging Council to support 6635 04:00:38,303 --> 04:00:40,703 the residential rental price 6636 04:00:43,842 --> 04:00:44,508 gouging for exploitation and 6637 04:00:44,508 --> 04:00:45,143 cost transparency ordinance 6638 04:00:45,143 --> 04:00:45,610 Today on behalf of all San 6639 04:00:45,610 --> 04:00:47,610 Diego San Diego. 6640 04:00:49,848 --> 04:00:50,281 This benefits all of us not 6641 04:00:50,281 --> 04:00:51,160 just renters. 6642 04:00:51,160 --> 04:00:51,616 I strongly urge your support as 6643 04:00:51,616 --> 04:00:54,160 this item moves forward. 6644 04:00:58,223 --> 04:00:58,557 Thank you so much for your time 6645 04:00:58,557 --> 04:00:59,240 . 6646 04:00:59,240 --> 04:00:59,524 >> Thank you. 6647 04:00:59,524 --> 04:01:01,524 Kimberly Miller. 6648 04:01:04,796 --> 04:01:05,464 Q Please come forward while 6649 04:01:05,464 --> 04:01:07,864 Kimberly comes forward Could 6650 04:01:10,569 --> 04:01:11,268 Mark Schmitt Juliana Tetlow, 6651 04:01:11,268 --> 04:01:14,268 Andrew Malik and Paul Kruger 6652 04:01:22,247 --> 04:01:25,847 please come to the front row? 6653 04:01:29,120 --> 04:01:29,821 >> Kimberly you have two people 6654 04:01:29,821 --> 04:01:32,821 seeking you time Amber Earnest 6655 04:01:37,796 --> 04:01:38,563 and Amber here. 6656 04:01:38,563 --> 04:01:41,563 Amber Earnest thinks you know 6657 04:01:44,136 --> 04:01:44,636 she left okay and carlson Okay 6658 04:01:44,636 --> 04:01:45,437 ,I see. 6659 04:01:45,437 --> 04:01:45,804 And so you'll have two minutes. 6660 04:01:45,804 --> 04:01:47,804 Thank you. 6661 04:01:49,440 --> 04:01:50,142 Good afternoon. 6662 04:01:50,142 --> 04:01:50,775 Council member Kimberly Miller 6663 04:01:50,775 --> 04:01:51,410 on behalf of the Southern 6664 04:01:51,410 --> 04:01:53,410 California Rental Housing 6665 04:01:55,180 --> 04:01:55,881 Association, a theory j has 6666 04:01:55,881 --> 04:01:56,481 been engaged in working groups 6667 04:01:56,481 --> 04:01:57,148 on this topic since last 6668 04:01:57,148 --> 04:02:00,148 OCTOBER and is committed to 6669 04:02:01,119 --> 04:02:01,986 collaboration. 6670 04:02:01,986 --> 04:02:02,621 However, as I stand here before 6671 04:02:02,621 --> 04:02:03,188 you today we have critical 6672 04:02:03,188 --> 04:02:03,855 questions that remain 6673 04:02:03,855 --> 04:02:05,855 unanswered throughout their 6674 04:02:08,260 --> 04:02:08,827 engagement on screening fraud 6675 04:02:08,827 --> 04:02:11,227 at the growing crisis, 6676 04:02:12,164 --> 04:02:12,731 application fraud jumped 40% 6677 04:02:12,731 --> 04:02:13,464 last year nationally. 6678 04:02:13,464 --> 04:02:16,464 How will this ordinance protect 6679 04:02:17,202 --> 04:02:17,903 providers when regulated Third 6680 04:02:17,903 --> 04:02:18,537 party screening already exists 6681 04:02:18,537 --> 04:02:20,937 for exactly that purpose? 6682 04:02:23,208 --> 04:02:23,976 On the 5% holding deposit cap, 6683 04:02:23,976 --> 04:02:24,343 5% does not cover two days of 6684 04:02:24,343 --> 04:02:24,943 lost rent. 6685 04:02:24,943 --> 04:02:26,943 Will this requirement 6686 04:02:28,546 --> 04:02:29,181 discourage a practice that 6687 04:02:29,181 --> 04:02:29,848 helps prospective renters 6688 04:02:29,848 --> 04:02:33,448 reserve a unit as they apply 6689 04:02:34,860 --> 04:02:34,352 for the property on the 5% fee 6690 04:02:34,352 --> 04:02:34,953 cap? 6691 04:02:34,953 --> 04:02:35,586 What analysis Establish 6692 04:02:35,586 --> 04:02:37,986 the percentage of 5% does 6693 04:02:39,925 --> 04:02:40,593 the cap consider different 6694 04:02:40,593 --> 04:02:41,126 property types and locations 6695 04:02:41,126 --> 04:02:43,126 throughout the city. 6696 04:02:45,264 --> 04:02:45,931 Will the city look to help 6697 04:02:45,931 --> 04:02:46,832 providers if the cap forces 6698 04:02:46,832 --> 04:02:51,320 them to deny a service a tenant 6699 04:02:52,204 --> 04:02:52,971 wants on late fees? 6700 04:02:52,971 --> 04:02:53,639 a crt believes that state law 6701 04:02:53,639 --> 04:02:56,390 should just simply be 6702 04:02:57,508 --> 04:02:58,277 the standard here. 6703 04:02:58,277 --> 04:02:58,977 More importantly, requiring a 6704 04:02:58,977 --> 04:02:59,812 week or more of no payment of 6705 04:02:59,812 --> 04:03:03,412 rent before late fees can be 6706 04:03:03,616 --> 04:03:04,215 imposed MAY disproportionately 6707 04:03:04,215 --> 04:03:04,683 impact small to midsize 6708 04:03:04,683 --> 04:03:06,683 property owners. 6709 04:03:09,655 --> 04:03:10,356 I'm happy with security deposit 6710 04:03:10,356 --> 04:03:10,856 deposits capped at one month's 6711 04:03:10,856 --> 04:03:13,256 rent Pet for pet. 6712 04:03:15,600 --> 04:03:15,694 These offset real damage costs. 6713 04:03:15,694 --> 04:03:16,395 What recourse will rental 6714 04:03:16,395 --> 04:03:16,896 providers have for pet damage 6715 04:03:16,896 --> 04:03:18,896 to communal areas? 6716 04:03:21,767 --> 04:03:22,368 On advertising does this apply 6717 04:03:22,368 --> 04:03:25,368 to yard signs as well? 6718 04:03:25,838 --> 04:03:26,539 Renter providers be liable for 6719 04:03:26,539 --> 04:03:27,600 third party listings like they 6720 04:03:27,600 --> 04:03:27,673 do not control? 6721 04:03:27,673 --> 04:03:30,730 This impacts impact largely 6722 04:03:31,710 --> 04:03:32,578 seniors and mom and pop owners 6723 04:03:32,578 --> 04:03:35,578 that don't use websites on 6724 04:03:37,160 --> 04:03:37,717 transparency a support 6725 04:03:37,717 --> 04:03:38,384 transparency for all and they 6726 04:03:38,384 --> 04:03:39,850 believe that data could help 6727 04:03:39,850 --> 04:03:42,850 inform and provide much needed 6728 04:03:43,556 --> 04:03:44,123 insight into this discussion. 6729 04:03:44,123 --> 04:03:46,523 Since similar bills at 6730 04:03:49,940 --> 04:03:49,795 the State sb 61 and 8012 were 6731 04:03:49,795 --> 04:03:50,960 created honestly thank you so 6732 04:03:50,960 --> 04:03:52,960 much. 6733 04:03:53,865 --> 04:03:54,266 >> Thank you Mark Schmidt. 6734 04:03:54,266 --> 04:03:54,834 Hi. 6735 04:03:54,834 --> 04:03:57,234 Thank you City Council 6736 04:03:59,271 --> 04:03:59,872 Appreciate it so I honestly 6737 04:03:59,872 --> 04:04:00,606 believe there should be 6738 04:04:00,606 --> 04:04:03,606 transparency for all both sides 6739 04:04:06,120 --> 04:04:06,646 both ways As far as that there 6740 04:04:06,646 --> 04:04:09,460 will be tremendous fraud. 6741 04:04:11,117 --> 04:04:11,750 I believe in these credit 6742 04:04:11,750 --> 04:04:12,385 checks If you don't allow 6743 04:04:12,385 --> 04:04:15,385 the landlord to do credit 6744 04:04:17,957 --> 04:04:18,590 checks, we get to the point of 6745 04:04:18,590 --> 04:04:20,990 things Developers are not 6746 04:04:23,663 --> 04:04:23,996 coming to San Diego to build 6747 04:04:23,996 --> 04:04:24,664 housing. 6748 04:04:24,664 --> 04:04:25,331 There's too much cost here. 6749 04:04:25,331 --> 04:04:27,731 There's too much bureaucracy 6750 04:04:28,901 --> 04:04:29,602 and the politics of it they're 6751 04:04:29,602 --> 04:04:30,269 going to other states and it's 6752 04:04:30,269 --> 04:04:30,636 going to get worse and worse 6753 04:04:30,636 --> 04:04:32,636 and worse. 6754 04:04:34,974 --> 04:04:35,841 When I was a kid you could work 6755 04:04:35,841 --> 04:04:36,409 a couple of years, buy a house. 6756 04:04:36,409 --> 04:04:36,809 These these days it's 6757 04:04:36,809 --> 04:04:38,809 impossible. 6758 04:04:40,479 --> 04:04:41,313 I feel sorry for the immigrants 6759 04:04:41,313 --> 04:04:41,681 ,the low blue collar workers 6760 04:04:41,681 --> 04:04:42,281 and so on. 6761 04:04:42,281 --> 04:04:43,150 We need more housing. 6762 04:04:43,150 --> 04:04:46,150 The more regulation you put 6763 04:04:47,320 --> 04:04:47,987 there that stifles housing. 6764 04:04:47,987 --> 04:04:48,688 I believe in fairness to all 6765 04:04:48,688 --> 04:04:49,422 And there's also be a few bad 6766 04:04:49,422 --> 04:04:52,492 apples are going get as he said 6767 04:04:52,492 --> 04:04:52,959 she said that's what small 6768 04:04:52,959 --> 04:04:53,793 claims court is. 6769 04:04:53,793 --> 04:04:54,226 But please, I must tell you I 6770 04:04:54,226 --> 04:04:56,226 grew up here. 6771 04:04:58,431 --> 04:04:59,650 I've been building here. 6772 04:04:59,650 --> 04:04:59,432 >> We've stopped building. 6773 04:04:59,432 --> 04:05:00,133 Thank you. 6774 04:05:00,133 --> 04:05:03,133 That does conclude your time. 6775 04:05:03,869 --> 04:05:04,337 Julianna Tetlow. 6776 04:05:04,337 --> 04:05:05,700 Good afternoon. 6777 04:05:05,700 --> 04:05:07,470 Council members Julianna Tetlow 6778 04:05:09,843 --> 04:05:10,509 here on behalf of San Diego 6779 04:05:10,509 --> 04:05:11,311 Humane Society at its core. 6780 04:05:11,311 --> 04:05:14,311 This ordinance is aimed at 6781 04:05:16,516 --> 04:05:16,949 transparency and it's fair and 6782 04:05:16,949 --> 04:05:17,684 it's balanced. 6783 04:05:17,684 --> 04:05:20,684 There's a lot of misinformation 6784 04:05:21,554 --> 04:05:22,255 about what this does as it 6785 04:05:22,255 --> 04:05:22,988 relates particularly to pets. 6786 04:05:22,988 --> 04:05:23,523 So I want to highlight actually 6787 04:05:23,523 --> 04:05:25,923 what it doesn't do. 6788 04:05:28,260 --> 04:05:28,395 It does not prohibit pet 6789 04:05:28,395 --> 04:05:28,995 deposits. 6790 04:05:28,995 --> 04:05:31,995 It does not mandate that 6791 04:05:34,466 --> 04:05:34,834 landlords accept pets in their 6792 04:05:34,834 --> 04:05:35,467 property. 6793 04:05:35,467 --> 04:05:36,136 It does not prohibit size 6794 04:05:36,136 --> 04:05:38,136 restrictions although maybe 6795 04:05:39,939 --> 04:05:40,206 that's something we can work 6796 04:05:40,206 --> 04:05:40,907 on. 6797 04:05:40,907 --> 04:05:41,474 And it does not prohibit a 6798 04:05:41,474 --> 04:05:42,750 landlord or owner from 6799 04:05:42,750 --> 04:05:44,750 protecting their assets. 6800 04:05:46,246 --> 04:05:46,913 Animal services is expensive 6801 04:05:46,913 --> 04:05:49,913 and it costs every taxpayer. 6802 04:05:51,718 --> 04:05:52,352 We must continue to work on 6803 04:05:52,352 --> 04:05:53,860 removing barriers to keep 6804 04:05:53,860 --> 04:05:56,686 people with their pets which is 6805 04:05:58,258 --> 04:05:58,725 what is on behalf of San Diego 6806 04:05:58,725 --> 04:05:59,426 Humane Society. 6807 04:05:59,426 --> 04:06:00,250 We urge every councilmember to 6808 04:06:00,250 --> 04:06:01,795 support this ordinance. 6809 04:06:01,795 --> 04:06:02,395 Thank you. 6810 04:06:02,395 --> 04:06:04,395 >> Thank you. 6811 04:06:08,301 --> 04:06:08,768 Andrew Malik. 6812 04:06:08,768 --> 04:06:09,403 Good afternoon. 6813 04:06:09,403 --> 04:06:10,300 Honorable Council members. 6814 04:06:10,300 --> 04:06:13,300 My name is Andrew Malik. 6815 04:06:14,741 --> 04:06:15,408 I represent the Council of 6816 04:06:15,408 --> 04:06:16,108 Infill Builders While others 6817 04:06:16,108 --> 04:06:19,108 have spoken to the operational 6818 04:06:20,480 --> 04:06:21,181 frictions of this policy, we 6819 04:06:21,181 --> 04:06:21,681 urge you to look at the macro 6820 04:06:21,681 --> 04:06:23,681 economic reality. 6821 04:06:25,819 --> 04:06:26,553 Economics is a science and 6822 04:06:26,553 --> 04:06:27,870 price controls are historically 6823 04:06:27,870 --> 04:06:29,870 a failed experiment. 6824 04:06:31,725 --> 04:06:32,392 The Federal Reserve Bank of St 6825 04:06:32,392 --> 04:06:33,920 Louis published an extensive 6826 04:06:33,920 --> 04:06:33,793 report warning that artificial 6827 04:06:33,793 --> 04:06:36,193 price controls distort market 6828 04:06:37,831 --> 04:06:38,465 signals, stifles supply and 6829 04:06:38,465 --> 04:06:38,899 create massive unintended 6830 04:06:38,899 --> 04:06:40,899 consequences. 6831 04:06:43,869 --> 04:06:44,604 Specifically, they note that 6832 04:06:44,604 --> 04:06:45,339 when governments impose a price 6833 04:06:45,339 --> 04:06:48,939 cap on a service, providers are 6834 04:06:49,576 --> 04:06:50,177 faced with forced to alter or 6835 04:06:50,177 --> 04:06:50,910 eliminate those options 6836 04:06:50,910 --> 04:06:53,910 entirely for infill and transit 6837 04:06:55,883 --> 04:06:56,549 oriented projects. 6838 04:06:56,549 --> 04:06:57,250 Flexibility is everything to 6839 04:06:57,250 --> 04:06:57,885 make housing performance work. 6840 04:06:57,885 --> 04:07:00,885 Developers must be able to 6841 04:07:01,755 --> 04:07:02,522 unbundled costs allowing 6842 04:07:02,522 --> 04:07:03,223 tenants to opt in and pay for 6843 04:07:03,223 --> 04:07:06,223 parking, pet storage or other 6844 04:07:07,828 --> 04:07:08,695 premium amenities. 6845 04:07:08,695 --> 04:07:09,396 >> Capping these fees at an 6846 04:07:09,396 --> 04:07:11,796 arbitrary five percent strips 6847 04:07:14,501 --> 04:07:15,168 away the flexibility that does 6848 04:07:15,168 --> 04:07:15,703 continue to infill housing. 6849 04:07:15,703 --> 04:07:16,236 Next up Paul Kruger. 6850 04:07:16,236 --> 04:07:16,837 While Paul comes to 6851 04:07:16,837 --> 04:07:19,237 the microphone good man 6852 04:07:20,808 --> 04:07:21,274 Rodriguez Just dangle that 6853 04:07:21,274 --> 04:07:23,274 digitally Audra. 6854 04:07:26,513 --> 04:07:26,848 We drawn Nicole a and Susan 6855 04:07:26,848 --> 04:07:27,481 Ragan. 6856 04:07:27,481 --> 04:07:27,781 >> Please come to the front 6857 04:07:27,781 --> 04:07:28,315 room. 6858 04:07:28,315 --> 04:07:30,315 Thank you, counsel. 6859 04:07:31,852 --> 04:07:32,486 My first concern is that 6860 04:07:32,486 --> 04:07:33,153 the title of the proposed 6861 04:07:33,153 --> 04:07:35,553 ordinance Price Gouging Fee 6862 04:07:37,958 --> 04:07:38,525 Exploitation is a very divisive 6863 04:07:38,525 --> 04:07:40,525 and polarizing title. 6864 04:07:44,197 --> 04:07:44,865 Please just stick with 6865 04:07:44,865 --> 04:07:45,466 the words cost transparency. 6866 04:07:45,466 --> 04:07:45,999 We have two groups here 6867 04:07:45,999 --> 04:07:47,999 the Apartment Owners 6868 04:07:50,104 --> 04:07:50,638 Association and the cia that 6869 04:07:50,638 --> 04:07:51,338 have expressed their 6870 04:07:51,338 --> 04:07:54,338 willingness to work with you. 6871 04:07:56,377 --> 04:07:57,110 Why would you alienate them 6872 04:07:57,110 --> 04:07:57,478 with the use of such polarizing 6873 04:07:57,478 --> 04:07:59,478 language? 6874 04:08:02,820 --> 04:08:02,783 Number two trash water late 6875 04:08:02,783 --> 04:08:03,830 fees Paid fees are not junk 6876 04:08:03,830 --> 04:08:05,830 fees. 6877 04:08:06,587 --> 04:08:07,288 Number three the time and 6878 04:08:07,288 --> 04:08:10,288 energy put into this ordinance 6879 04:08:12,259 --> 04:08:12,993 would be much better spent on 6880 04:08:12,993 --> 04:08:15,993 educating those who are looking 6881 04:08:18,650 --> 04:08:18,799 to rent on the legalities of 6882 04:08:18,799 --> 04:08:21,799 contracts and funding legal aid 6883 04:08:24,138 --> 04:08:24,905 groups that can challenge these 6884 04:08:24,905 --> 04:08:27,305 these illegal contracts that 6885 04:08:30,644 --> 04:08:31,579 the courts can handle. 6886 04:08:31,579 --> 04:08:31,946 >> It's simply a better use of 6887 04:08:31,946 --> 04:08:32,313 your time. 6888 04:08:32,313 --> 04:08:32,680 Thank you. 6889 04:08:32,680 --> 04:08:34,680 Thank you. 6890 04:08:41,388 --> 04:08:42,230 Manny Rodriguez. 6891 04:08:42,230 --> 04:08:42,356 Good afternoon, council 6892 04:08:42,356 --> 04:08:43,240 members. 6893 04:08:43,240 --> 04:08:46,240 I'm here on behalf of 6894 04:08:48,395 --> 04:08:48,729 the Democrats of San Diego 6895 04:08:48,729 --> 04:08:49,463 County. 6896 04:08:49,463 --> 04:08:50,131 Last week we had a hearing with 6897 04:08:50,131 --> 04:08:50,731 our members in which we had 6898 04:08:50,731 --> 04:08:53,131 both sides present their 6899 04:08:54,368 --> 04:08:55,203 arguments. 6900 04:08:55,203 --> 04:08:55,936 Then we had a debate and after 6901 04:08:55,936 --> 04:08:59,536 all that our members voted 3 to 6902 04:09:00,141 --> 04:09:00,808 1 to endorse this policy. 6903 04:09:00,808 --> 04:09:01,508 The cap on fees and 6904 04:09:01,508 --> 04:09:02,176 transparency on rental prices 6905 04:09:02,176 --> 04:09:02,509 was really important to our 6906 04:09:02,509 --> 04:09:04,509 members. 6907 04:09:06,413 --> 04:09:07,140 The most favorite part that our 6908 04:09:07,140 --> 04:09:07,715 members liked about this 6909 04:09:07,715 --> 04:09:08,316 proposal after talking to them 6910 04:09:08,316 --> 04:09:11,316 was being able to reuse 6911 04:09:12,920 --> 04:09:13,186 the same applications greening 6912 04:09:13,186 --> 04:09:13,921 fee. 6913 04:09:13,921 --> 04:09:14,588 We've had members who have paid 6914 04:09:14,588 --> 04:09:15,256 hundreds of dollars just to 6915 04:09:15,256 --> 04:09:17,725 find a place to live just to 6916 04:09:17,725 --> 04:09:18,559 apply for places to live. 6917 04:09:18,559 --> 04:09:19,260 So with all that being said on 6918 04:09:19,260 --> 04:09:22,260 behalf of our members, please 6919 04:09:24,465 --> 04:09:25,133 support this policy and thank 6920 04:09:25,133 --> 04:09:25,833 you Council Member for your 6921 04:09:25,833 --> 04:09:27,936 letter for being a legislator. 6922 04:09:27,936 --> 04:09:28,336 Thank you very much. 6923 04:09:28,336 --> 04:09:30,336 Thank you. 6924 04:09:34,241 --> 04:09:34,908 Justin go. 6925 04:09:34,908 --> 04:09:35,543 >> Good afternoon everyone. 6926 04:09:35,543 --> 04:09:38,543 My name is Judge Stengel. 6927 04:09:40,381 --> 04:09:40,982 Over the last 50 years I have 6928 04:09:40,982 --> 04:09:41,649 been a renter, owner and 6929 04:09:41,649 --> 04:09:41,950 landlord in the city of San 6930 04:09:41,950 --> 04:09:43,950 Diego. 6931 04:09:45,486 --> 04:09:46,220 In 2019 I rented a house in 6932 04:09:46,220 --> 04:09:49,820 the city, had a detached garage 6933 04:09:50,591 --> 04:09:51,292 for my laundry appliances, 6934 04:09:51,292 --> 04:09:51,859 parking which is tough to get 6935 04:09:51,859 --> 04:09:52,560 in that neighborhood. 6936 04:09:52,560 --> 04:09:53,127 This was all under one rental 6937 04:09:53,127 --> 04:09:55,127 agreement even though 6938 04:09:56,865 --> 04:09:57,565 the garage was separate and 6939 04:09:57,565 --> 04:09:58,266 adjoining garage to me was rat 6940 04:09:58,266 --> 04:10:00,666 infested non code compliant 6941 04:10:02,971 --> 04:10:03,670 plumbing and electrical and it 6942 04:10:03,670 --> 04:10:04,380 was being used illegally as a 6943 04:10:04,380 --> 04:10:06,380 dwelling. 6944 04:10:08,108 --> 04:10:08,810 I reported this to the city and 6945 04:10:08,810 --> 04:10:09,770 my landlord retaliated against 6946 04:10:09,770 --> 04:10:09,811 me. 6947 04:10:09,811 --> 04:10:13,810 She hired a legal firm who sent 6948 04:10:13,810 --> 04:10:13,815 me a demand letter with a 30 6949 04:10:13,815 --> 04:10:14,482 day notice to vacate the garage 6950 04:10:14,482 --> 04:10:17,482 only stating that the garage 6951 04:10:18,686 --> 04:10:19,354 was no longer part of 6952 04:10:19,354 --> 04:10:20,210 the rental agreement because 6953 04:10:20,210 --> 04:10:20,488 according to the law it was 6954 04:10:20,488 --> 04:10:22,488 quote detached. 6955 04:10:24,325 --> 04:10:25,260 I lost that place. 6956 04:10:25,260 --> 04:10:25,727 The letter from the attorney 6957 04:10:25,727 --> 04:10:26,494 also stated that my rent then 6958 04:10:26,494 --> 04:10:29,494 65% of my fixed income would 6959 04:10:30,432 --> 04:10:31,232 remain the same amount and I 6960 04:10:31,232 --> 04:10:31,633 would be have to pay $600 more 6961 04:10:31,633 --> 04:10:33,633 per month. 6962 04:10:36,338 --> 04:10:36,638 The city should be aware of 6963 04:10:36,638 --> 04:10:37,372 this. 6964 04:10:37,372 --> 04:10:38,106 >> That is the garage that does 6965 04:10:38,106 --> 04:10:40,506 conclude your time allegedly 6966 04:10:50,510 --> 04:10:50,818 order. 6967 04:10:50,818 --> 04:10:51,519 >> Thank you so much for 6968 04:10:51,519 --> 04:10:53,919 honoring victims and removing 6969 04:10:55,824 --> 04:10:56,558 the predatory flag Brown Act 6970 04:10:56,558 --> 04:10:57,191 violation You can't remove that 6971 04:10:57,191 --> 04:10:57,759 last item without hearing 6972 04:10:57,759 --> 04:10:59,759 public comment anyhow. 6973 04:11:01,296 --> 04:11:01,997 You guys are conflating the you 6974 04:11:01,997 --> 04:11:04,397 know, corporate landlords and 6975 04:11:06,334 --> 04:11:07,102 small family owned businesses 6976 04:11:07,102 --> 04:11:07,769 and junk fees and getting full 6977 04:11:07,769 --> 04:11:08,436 cost recovery for the things 6978 04:11:08,436 --> 04:11:11,436 that you guys implement like 6979 04:11:12,273 --> 04:11:12,974 the trash fees that you put on 6980 04:11:12,974 --> 04:11:13,508 somebody's property tax that's 6981 04:11:13,508 --> 04:11:14,209 not a that comes in. 6982 04:11:14,209 --> 04:11:17,209 That's something that you guys 6983 04:11:18,790 --> 04:11:18,780 implemented that then goes down 6984 04:11:18,780 --> 04:11:19,481 to the landlord that they have 6985 04:11:19,481 --> 04:11:23,385 to put on to the tenant And so 6986 04:11:23,385 --> 04:11:24,186 it's like there's a lot of 6987 04:11:24,186 --> 04:11:24,920 confusion going on here and you 6988 04:11:24,920 --> 04:11:25,620 guys love to pit people against 6989 04:11:25,620 --> 04:11:28,620 each other when you're engaged 6990 04:11:29,240 --> 04:11:29,724 in the things that are costing 6991 04:11:29,724 --> 04:11:33,324 people more money to just live 6992 04:11:33,962 --> 04:11:34,563 and then you're you're making 6993 04:11:34,563 --> 04:11:35,430 the landlords the enemy. 6994 04:11:35,430 --> 04:11:39,201 What you need to make sure that 6995 04:11:39,201 --> 04:11:39,801 you are separating the two We 6996 04:11:39,801 --> 04:11:40,502 don't have BlackRock and 6997 04:11:40,502 --> 04:11:43,502 Vanguard in here talking about 6998 04:11:43,705 --> 04:11:44,406 not wanting this but you have 6999 04:11:44,406 --> 04:11:45,720 family owned businesses where 7000 04:11:45,720 --> 04:11:45,774 they're like we need to make 7001 04:11:45,774 --> 04:11:46,141 sure that we can get full cost 7002 04:11:46,141 --> 04:11:48,141 recovery. 7003 04:11:49,110 --> 04:11:49,778 You guys want it? 7004 04:11:49,778 --> 04:11:50,178 >> You should be equitable and 7005 04:11:50,178 --> 04:11:50,545 this isn't. 7006 04:11:50,545 --> 04:11:52,545 Thank you. 7007 04:12:00,922 --> 04:12:01,956 We tried. 7008 04:12:01,956 --> 04:12:05,556 >> Hello, my name is We try 7009 04:12:06,194 --> 04:12:06,861 pronouncing him his It's like a 7010 04:12:06,861 --> 04:12:07,596 director Executive director 7011 04:12:07,596 --> 04:12:11,366 Before I did Lifetime I used to 7012 04:12:11,366 --> 04:12:12,134 be a property manager. 7013 04:12:12,134 --> 04:12:12,801 What did you see The house And 7014 04:12:12,801 --> 04:12:16,138 I can tell you that every 7015 04:12:16,138 --> 04:12:16,438 single renter application come 7016 04:12:16,438 --> 04:12:17,500 in. 7017 04:12:17,500 --> 04:12:17,406 We have a choice. 7018 04:12:17,406 --> 04:12:18,373 We're not. 7019 04:12:18,373 --> 04:12:21,973 We want to run credit report 7020 04:12:22,244 --> 04:12:23,112 knowing that it can oppose 7021 04:12:23,112 --> 04:12:26,415 impose quite a number of fee on 7022 04:12:26,415 --> 04:12:26,748 people struggling trying to buy 7023 04:12:26,748 --> 04:12:27,448 housing. 7024 04:12:27,448 --> 04:12:31,480 I often advocate with my boss 7025 04:12:32,210 --> 04:12:32,655 to not run like charging people 7026 04:12:32,655 --> 04:12:33,288 fees like that because at 7027 04:12:33,288 --> 04:12:37,159 the end of day even if we 7028 04:12:37,159 --> 04:12:37,760 rejected our application 7029 04:12:37,760 --> 04:12:38,360 the money coming out of 7030 04:12:38,360 --> 04:12:40,760 people's pockets I also 7031 04:12:43,650 --> 04:12:43,565 advocate would you guys deal 7032 04:12:43,565 --> 04:12:44,233 with like ongoing 7033 04:12:44,233 --> 04:12:46,633 the experiences and knowing 7034 04:12:48,437 --> 04:12:49,138 that discounted extremely 7035 04:12:49,138 --> 04:12:49,772 difficult to find housing and 7036 04:12:49,772 --> 04:12:50,506 people are barely making a 7037 04:12:50,506 --> 04:12:53,506 living if people already what 7038 04:12:54,777 --> 04:12:55,510 to do three job to pay rent we 7039 04:12:55,510 --> 04:12:59,110 cannot adding more fees on like 7040 04:12:59,415 --> 04:13:00,282 this if you want to keep people 7041 04:13:00,282 --> 04:13:00,983 house is how you want to do it 7042 04:13:00,983 --> 04:13:03,983 pass that ordinance Thank you. 7043 04:13:06,255 --> 04:13:07,230 >> Thank you Nicole. 7044 04:13:07,230 --> 04:13:10,230 >> Hello my name is Nicole. 7045 04:13:11,727 --> 04:13:12,228 I'm a resident of Now community 7046 04:13:12,228 --> 04:13:12,695 in District nine. 7047 04:13:12,695 --> 04:13:14,695 I'm a renter. 7048 04:13:15,864 --> 04:13:16,665 I have two roommates. 7049 04:13:16,665 --> 04:13:16,966 I have also have two part time 7050 04:13:16,966 --> 04:13:18,966 jobs. 7051 04:13:20,936 --> 04:13:21,637 Half of my income goes to my 7052 04:13:21,637 --> 04:13:22,171 rent And I know that I'm not 7053 04:13:22,171 --> 04:13:23,720 alone in this boat. 7054 04:13:23,720 --> 04:13:25,540 Most renters I know or talk to 7055 04:13:25,540 --> 04:13:26,208 have at least half or more than 7056 04:13:26,208 --> 04:13:26,608 half of their paycheck go to 7057 04:13:26,608 --> 04:13:28,608 their rent. 7058 04:13:30,679 --> 04:13:31,380 A lot of people are living 7059 04:13:31,380 --> 04:13:34,980 paycheck to paycheck on top of 7060 04:13:35,885 --> 04:13:36,552 rent which is already a lot. 7061 04:13:36,552 --> 04:13:37,253 There are fees, pet fees, 7062 04:13:37,253 --> 04:13:39,253 application fees, convenience 7063 04:13:41,123 --> 04:13:41,457 fees it at it adds up on 7064 04:13:41,457 --> 04:13:42,570 Zillow. 7065 04:13:42,570 --> 04:13:45,570 The last time I checked 7066 04:13:45,161 --> 04:13:46,129 the application fee was $35. 7067 04:13:46,129 --> 04:13:46,729 Whenever I pay my rent on a 7068 04:13:46,729 --> 04:13:49,129 website I get charged 7069 04:13:50,599 --> 04:13:51,670 convenience fees. 7070 04:13:51,670 --> 04:13:51,801 It adds up. 7071 04:13:51,801 --> 04:13:55,338 The reality is that most people 7072 04:13:55,338 --> 04:13:56,500 are closer to homelessness than 7073 04:13:56,500 --> 04:13:56,672 they are to people like Elon 7074 04:13:56,672 --> 04:13:56,973 Musk, Donald Trump and Jeff 7075 04:13:56,973 --> 04:13:58,973 Bezos. 7076 04:14:00,508 --> 04:14:01,176 If you're already not homeless 7077 04:14:01,176 --> 04:14:04,776 I urge you to pass this 7078 04:14:05,714 --> 04:14:06,349 ordinance to protect a huge 7079 04:14:06,349 --> 04:14:07,830 part of your constituents 7080 04:14:07,830 --> 04:14:09,785 the renters, the working people 7081 04:14:09,785 --> 04:14:10,253 in. 7082 04:14:10,253 --> 04:14:10,887 >> Thank you. 7083 04:14:10,887 --> 04:14:13,287 That concludes your time. 7084 04:14:15,390 --> 04:14:16,192 Susan Riggs Good afternoon. 7085 04:14:16,192 --> 04:14:19,192 I'm Susan Riggs, senior housing 7086 04:14:20,462 --> 04:14:21,164 director for the American 7087 04:14:21,164 --> 04:14:24,164 Society for the Prevention of 7088 04:14:25,301 --> 04:14:25,701 Cruelty to Animals and a Renter 7089 04:14:25,701 --> 04:14:26,369 in d-3. 7090 04:14:26,369 --> 04:14:27,360 I'm here to speak to 7091 04:14:27,360 --> 04:14:30,360 the importance of reining in 7092 04:14:30,106 --> 04:14:30,840 rental rental fees overall but 7093 04:14:30,840 --> 04:14:31,440 more specifically those related 7094 04:14:31,440 --> 04:14:34,440 to the keeping of pets. 7095 04:14:34,777 --> 04:14:35,378 Housing instability is among 7096 04:14:35,378 --> 04:14:36,450 the top causes of pet 7097 04:14:36,450 --> 04:14:36,712 surrender, especially among 7098 04:14:36,712 --> 04:14:39,112 lower income households and 7099 04:14:39,716 --> 04:14:40,549 communities of color. 7100 04:14:40,549 --> 04:14:41,183 While I'm here to advocate for 7101 04:14:41,183 --> 04:14:41,884 solutions to reverse this 7102 04:14:41,884 --> 04:14:44,187 trend, I'm also here to speak 7103 04:14:44,187 --> 04:14:44,587 to the importance of the human 7104 04:14:44,587 --> 04:14:45,288 animal bond. 7105 04:14:45,288 --> 04:14:47,688 People are making unimaginable 7106 04:14:49,259 --> 04:14:49,893 decisions in order to avoid 7107 04:14:49,893 --> 04:14:50,226 giving up their family of 7108 04:14:50,226 --> 04:14:51,270 choice. 7109 04:14:51,270 --> 04:14:54,230 We ask you to affirmatively act 7110 04:14:54,230 --> 04:14:54,935 on the junk fees ordinance so 7111 04:14:54,935 --> 04:14:55,631 that fewer renters are forced 7112 04:14:55,631 --> 04:14:58,501 to choose between a roof over 7113 04:14:58,501 --> 04:14:58,902 their head and keeping their 7114 04:14:58,902 --> 04:14:59,402 family pet. 7115 04:14:59,402 --> 04:14:59,769 Thank you. 7116 04:14:59,769 --> 04:15:01,769 Thank you. 7117 04:15:13,150 --> 04:15:15,415 Anthony Ralphs Good afternoon 7118 04:15:17,921 --> 04:15:18,588 City Council I strongly support 7119 04:15:18,588 --> 04:15:19,289 this ordinance because at a 7120 04:15:19,289 --> 04:15:19,889 time when 60% of Americans are 7121 04:15:19,889 --> 04:15:22,289 one paycheck away from 7122 04:15:22,825 --> 04:15:23,426 homelessness, when a quarter of 7123 04:15:23,426 --> 04:15:24,160 San Diegans are already 7124 04:15:24,160 --> 04:15:27,297 currently in debt to the greedy 7125 04:15:27,297 --> 04:15:28,980 energy monopoly star Genie when 7126 04:15:28,980 --> 04:15:28,732 the cost of living in San Diego 7127 04:15:28,732 --> 04:15:29,432 is already the highest in 7128 04:15:29,432 --> 04:15:32,432 the nation when private equity 7129 04:15:32,802 --> 04:15:33,536 predators are buying entire 7130 04:15:33,536 --> 04:15:34,237 blocks and amassing communities 7131 04:15:34,237 --> 04:15:38,740 of empty homes, we are prey to 7132 04:15:38,740 --> 04:15:38,742 sky high rents, air pollution 7133 04:15:38,742 --> 04:15:39,800 levels causing one death per 7134 04:15:39,800 --> 04:15:39,709 day. 7135 04:15:39,709 --> 04:15:42,445 Cp That can't hold police 7136 04:15:42,445 --> 04:15:43,313 accountable. 7137 04:15:43,313 --> 04:15:46,449 Sdg In these billions in profit 7138 04:15:46,449 --> 04:15:46,850 greedy landlords flock and now 7139 04:15:46,850 --> 04:15:47,617 junk fees. 7140 04:15:47,617 --> 04:15:49,617 >> Please support this 7141 04:15:52,255 --> 04:15:52,989 ordinance And I didn't forget 7142 04:15:52,989 --> 04:15:56,325 about you LaCava There's a rose 7143 04:15:56,325 --> 04:15:56,726 for you as well. 7144 04:15:56,726 --> 04:15:57,460 Thank you. 7145 04:15:57,460 --> 04:15:59,860 That does conclude in-person 7146 04:16:01,731 --> 04:16:02,399 public comment. 7147 04:16:02,399 --> 04:16:03,990 I've started The five minute 7148 04:16:03,990 --> 04:16:05,468 timer on council chambers will 7149 04:16:05,468 --> 04:16:06,136 now turn to the virtual queue 7150 04:16:06,136 --> 04:16:06,770 in which there are 12 7151 04:16:06,770 --> 04:16:08,770 participants requesting to 7152 04:16:10,607 --> 04:16:11,308 speak. 7153 04:16:11,308 --> 04:16:14,308 We'll begin with Evans Strawn. 7154 04:16:15,311 --> 04:16:15,946 Please begin. 7155 04:16:15,946 --> 04:16:17,946 >> >> Good afternoon. 7156 04:16:20,417 --> 04:16:20,884 Council PRESIDENT LaCava and 7157 04:16:20,884 --> 04:16:21,485 Council members. 7158 04:16:21,485 --> 04:16:22,119 My name is Evan Strawn. 7159 04:16:22,119 --> 04:16:25,210 I'm speaking on behalf of 7160 04:16:25,210 --> 04:16:25,422 the San Diego Regional Chamber 7161 04:16:25,422 --> 04:16:26,123 of Commerce. 7162 04:16:26,123 --> 04:16:26,890 There are some aspects of this 7163 04:16:26,890 --> 04:16:29,826 ordinance that we could support 7164 04:16:29,826 --> 04:16:30,494 including increased 7165 04:16:30,494 --> 04:16:31,193 transparency for renters and 7166 04:16:31,193 --> 04:16:33,593 reasonable policies on things 7167 04:16:34,497 --> 04:16:35,165 like processing fees. 7168 04:16:35,165 --> 04:16:35,765 Unfortunately though we are 7169 04:16:35,765 --> 04:16:38,165 opposed to the ordinance 7170 04:16:39,303 --> 04:16:39,970 because many of the remaining 7171 04:16:39,970 --> 04:16:40,637 items will lead to less 7172 04:16:40,637 --> 04:16:43,370 investment in needed housing 7173 04:16:44,174 --> 04:16:44,874 and do not allow rental 7174 04:16:44,874 --> 04:16:45,475 operators to recoup reasonable 7175 04:16:45,475 --> 04:16:47,875 costs for operations and 7176 04:16:48,779 --> 04:16:49,479 maintenance. 7177 04:16:49,479 --> 04:16:50,112 Rental housing operators incur 7178 04:16:50,112 --> 04:16:53,112 costs for things like pest 7179 04:16:53,350 --> 04:16:53,850 control, pet damage and late 7180 04:16:53,850 --> 04:16:54,584 and unpaid rent. 7181 04:16:54,584 --> 04:16:55,185 These are not just items they 7182 04:16:55,185 --> 04:16:58,185 can write off for free. 7183 04:16:58,389 --> 04:16:59,560 Their businesses who must 7184 04:16:59,560 --> 04:16:59,723 recover costs just like any 7185 04:16:59,723 --> 04:17:02,723 other business or even like 7186 04:17:03,426 --> 04:17:04,270 governmental organizations like 7187 04:17:04,270 --> 04:17:04,861 the city have to do. 7188 04:17:04,861 --> 04:17:08,461 Most parts of this ordinance as 7189 04:17:08,665 --> 04:17:09,366 it's currently written punish 7190 04:17:09,366 --> 04:17:09,900 these businesses for trying to 7191 04:17:09,900 --> 04:17:10,534 recoup these costs. 7192 04:17:10,534 --> 04:17:12,703 For these reasons we must 7193 04:17:12,703 --> 04:17:13,270 continue to oppose 7194 04:17:13,270 --> 04:17:13,770 the ordinance as it is 7195 04:17:13,770 --> 04:17:15,770 currently crafted. 7196 04:17:17,474 --> 04:17:17,975 >> Thank you. 7197 04:17:17,975 --> 04:17:19,975 >> Thank you. 7198 04:17:25,215 --> 04:17:25,649 Jay ems ceo. 7199 04:17:25,649 --> 04:17:25,915 Please begin. 7200 04:17:25,915 --> 04:17:26,483 Yes? 7201 04:17:26,483 --> 04:17:26,784 Can you hear me? 7202 04:17:26,784 --> 04:17:28,784 Yes. 7203 04:17:30,254 --> 04:17:30,654 Please begin. 7204 04:17:30,654 --> 04:17:31,688 Thank you. 7205 04:17:31,688 --> 04:17:35,459 So my wife and I are mom and 7206 04:17:35,459 --> 04:17:36,160 pop landlords and I wanted to 7207 04:17:36,160 --> 04:17:38,796 speak in opposition to this 7208 04:17:38,796 --> 04:17:39,496 bill on two specific items and 7209 04:17:39,496 --> 04:17:43,960 this has been misstated here a 7210 04:17:43,200 --> 04:17:43,968 few times tonight. 7211 04:17:43,968 --> 04:17:47,568 State law was changed a couple 7212 04:17:47,738 --> 04:17:48,500 of years ago by Assembly Bill 7213 04:17:48,500 --> 04:17:48,739 12. 7214 04:17:48,739 --> 04:17:49,506 It is now illegal in the state 7215 04:17:49,506 --> 04:17:52,506 of California to charge a 7216 04:17:53,430 --> 04:17:53,710 separate pet security deposit. 7217 04:17:53,710 --> 04:17:57,548 That is the law of the land. 7218 04:17:57,548 --> 04:17:58,314 The only way for a landlord to 7219 04:17:58,314 --> 04:17:58,816 cover their damages for pets is 7220 04:17:58,816 --> 04:18:01,216 for a pet fee. 7221 04:18:03,521 --> 04:18:04,221 If you get rid of pet fees in 7222 04:18:04,221 --> 04:18:06,590 the city of San Diego, my wife 7223 04:18:06,590 --> 04:18:07,291 and I will sell all five of our 7224 04:18:07,291 --> 04:18:08,125 rental units and it'll be very 7225 04:18:08,125 --> 04:18:11,695 difficult for anybody to find a 7226 04:18:11,695 --> 04:18:12,295 place to rent to them. 7227 04:18:12,295 --> 04:18:12,663 On the portability of 7228 04:18:12,663 --> 04:18:14,663 screening. 7229 04:18:15,533 --> 04:18:16,232 I have in personally 7230 04:18:16,232 --> 04:18:18,232 encountered people falsifying 7231 04:18:20,204 --> 04:18:21,138 screening paperwork. 7232 04:18:21,138 --> 04:18:25,338 And again if you banned me from 7233 04:18:25,675 --> 04:18:26,343 getting my own we will get out 7234 04:18:26,343 --> 04:18:26,977 of the landlord business as 7235 04:18:26,977 --> 04:18:29,377 well many other landlords. 7236 04:18:29,513 --> 04:18:32,513 Thank you for your time. 7237 04:18:34,218 --> 04:18:34,885 >> Thank you. 7238 04:18:34,885 --> 04:18:35,219 Our next speaker is Amelia 7239 04:18:35,219 --> 04:18:37,219 Romero. 7240 04:18:41,692 --> 04:18:43,692 Please begin. 7241 04:18:46,764 --> 04:18:47,980 >> Good afternoon, council 7242 04:18:47,980 --> 04:18:47,732 members. 7243 04:18:47,732 --> 04:18:48,699 My name is Amalia Romero. 7244 04:18:48,699 --> 04:18:51,635 I work at Legal Aid Society of 7245 04:18:51,635 --> 04:18:52,300 San Diego and I support this 7246 04:18:52,300 --> 04:18:54,300 ordinance. 7247 04:18:56,173 --> 04:18:56,841 For years recently and our work 7248 04:18:56,841 --> 04:18:57,541 helping the most vulnerable 7249 04:18:57,541 --> 04:19:01,141 renters in the city We've seen 7250 04:19:01,379 --> 04:19:02,790 the increase and widespread 7251 04:19:02,790 --> 04:19:04,479 practice of landlords charging 7252 04:19:05,715 --> 04:19:06,170 extra fees beyond the base rent 7253 04:19:06,170 --> 04:19:06,784 . 7254 04:19:06,784 --> 04:19:07,485 And we see firsthand how these 7255 04:19:07,485 --> 04:19:10,485 hidden fees can push ordinary 7256 04:19:10,521 --> 04:19:11,289 families into housing 7257 04:19:11,289 --> 04:19:11,955 instability and how they're too 7258 04:19:11,955 --> 04:19:14,355 often seemingly designed not 7259 04:19:14,992 --> 04:19:15,726 just to recover operational 7260 04:19:15,726 --> 04:19:16,193 expenses but to unfairly profit 7261 04:19:16,193 --> 04:19:18,193 off of tenants. 7262 04:19:19,964 --> 04:19:20,598 This ordinance will not prevent 7263 04:19:20,598 --> 04:19:21,990 landlords from recovering 7264 04:19:21,990 --> 04:19:23,990 legitimate costs. 7265 04:19:25,200 --> 04:19:25,570 They can absolutely still 7266 04:19:25,570 --> 04:19:26,204 recover those costs by 7267 04:19:26,204 --> 04:19:26,504 including them in the base 7268 04:19:26,504 --> 04:19:28,504 rent. 7269 04:19:29,607 --> 04:19:30,341 As was previously a very common 7270 04:19:30,341 --> 04:19:31,750 practice, this ordinance is not 7271 04:19:31,750 --> 04:19:33,475 something revolutionary or that 7272 04:19:34,779 --> 04:19:35,313 risks destabilizing the housing 7273 04:19:35,313 --> 04:19:36,140 market in the city. 7274 04:19:36,140 --> 04:19:38,414 It will promote transparency, 7275 04:19:39,751 --> 04:19:40,184 close loopholes and limit 7276 04:19:40,184 --> 04:19:40,951 exploitation. 7277 04:19:40,951 --> 04:19:41,285 >> So I urge you to move it 7278 04:19:41,285 --> 04:19:43,285 forward. 7279 04:19:44,880 --> 04:19:44,656 Thank you very much. 7280 04:19:44,656 --> 04:19:45,323 >> Thank you. 7281 04:19:45,323 --> 04:19:45,690 Our next speaker is Aria 7282 04:19:45,690 --> 04:19:47,690 Grossman. 7283 04:19:51,763 --> 04:19:52,497 Please begin. 7284 04:19:52,497 --> 04:19:52,997 >> Good afternoon Council. 7285 04:19:52,997 --> 04:19:53,765 My name is Aria. 7286 04:19:53,765 --> 04:19:56,501 I'm the policy manager at 7287 04:19:56,501 --> 04:19:57,168 Circulate Planning and Policy. 7288 04:19:57,168 --> 04:20:00,168 Under current law in certain 7289 04:20:01,139 --> 04:20:02,600 places across the city parking 7290 04:20:02,600 --> 04:20:02,540 has to be charged as a fee 7291 04:20:02,540 --> 04:20:03,274 separate from rent. 7292 04:20:03,274 --> 04:20:06,874 This is an equity measure to 7293 04:20:06,945 --> 04:20:07,644 ensure that those who do not 7294 04:20:07,644 --> 04:20:08,346 use a vehicle either by choice 7295 04:20:08,346 --> 04:20:11,490 or by necessity aren't charged 7296 04:20:11,490 --> 04:20:11,816 for it. 7297 04:20:11,816 --> 04:20:12,550 In addition to being an equity 7298 04:20:12,550 --> 04:20:14,950 consideration, this policy also 7299 04:20:15,920 --> 04:20:16,621 helps make progress towards our 7300 04:20:16,621 --> 04:20:17,288 climate and mobility goals as 7301 04:20:17,288 --> 04:20:20,288 it helps ensure that people 7302 04:20:21,920 --> 04:20:21,826 consider alternate forms of 7303 04:20:21,826 --> 04:20:22,426 transportation rather than just 7304 04:20:22,426 --> 04:20:22,761 defaulting to driving a 7305 04:20:22,761 --> 04:20:24,761 vehicle. 7306 04:20:26,364 --> 04:20:27,650 For this policy to be 7307 04:20:27,650 --> 04:20:27,732 effective, the cost of parking 7308 04:20:27,732 --> 04:20:30,732 has to reflect demand which 7309 04:20:31,703 --> 04:20:32,270 cannot which it cannot be if 7310 04:20:32,270 --> 04:20:32,636 it's capped under this 7311 04:20:32,636 --> 04:20:33,238 ordinance. 7312 04:20:33,238 --> 04:20:36,700 There is of course also 7313 04:20:36,700 --> 04:20:36,707 the concern that landlords 7314 04:20:36,707 --> 04:20:37,375 might raise rents on everyone 7315 04:20:37,375 --> 04:20:37,976 to capture the differential 7316 04:20:37,976 --> 04:20:40,976 between the cap and then 7317 04:20:41,112 --> 04:20:41,813 the current market prices that 7318 04:20:41,813 --> 04:20:42,513 they're charging for parking. 7319 04:20:42,513 --> 04:20:45,484 So I urge you to address this 7320 04:20:45,484 --> 04:20:46,217 issue by exempting parking 7321 04:20:46,217 --> 04:20:46,918 costs that are already required 7322 04:20:46,918 --> 04:20:47,452 to be unbundled from rent and 7323 04:20:47,452 --> 04:20:49,452 the final ordinance. 7324 04:20:49,553 --> 04:20:50,210 Thank you. 7325 04:20:50,210 --> 04:20:50,694 >> Thank you. 7326 04:20:50,694 --> 04:20:51,220 Our next speaker is Justine 7327 04:20:51,220 --> 04:20:53,220 Murray. 7328 04:20:58,231 --> 04:20:58,897 Please begin. 7329 04:20:58,897 --> 04:20:59,530 Good afternoon, Council 7330 04:20:59,530 --> 04:20:59,864 PRESIDENT Cobb and Council 7331 04:20:59,864 --> 04:21:00,498 members. 7332 04:21:00,498 --> 04:21:01,766 My name is Justine Murray. 7333 04:21:01,766 --> 04:21:02,334 I'm the vice PRESIDENT Of 7334 04:21:02,334 --> 04:21:02,868 government affairs for 7335 04:21:02,868 --> 04:21:03,268 the Downtown Senior 7336 04:21:03,268 --> 04:21:03,768 Partnership. 7337 04:21:03,768 --> 04:21:05,768 More than 30 years 7338 04:21:06,638 --> 04:21:07,372 the partnership has represented 7339 04:21:07,372 --> 04:21:08,390 downtown San Diego's businesses 7340 04:21:08,390 --> 04:21:08,640 property owners, employers, 7341 04:21:08,640 --> 04:21:10,640 residents and community 7342 04:21:12,277 --> 04:21:12,944 stakeholders. 7343 04:21:12,944 --> 04:21:13,611 We respectfully urge you to 7344 04:21:13,611 --> 04:21:14,146 vote no on this ordinance as 7345 04:21:14,146 --> 04:21:16,146 currently proposed. 7346 04:21:16,548 --> 04:21:17,249 While we do support greater 7347 04:21:17,249 --> 04:21:17,983 transparency for renters, this 7348 04:21:17,983 --> 04:21:18,283 ordinance goes well beyond that 7349 04:21:18,283 --> 04:21:18,850 goal. 7350 04:21:18,850 --> 04:21:20,850 It creates additional 7351 04:21:21,853 --> 04:21:22,454 regulations that increase 7352 04:21:22,454 --> 04:21:23,154 uncertainty for housing 7353 04:21:23,154 --> 04:21:23,755 providers, make projects more 7354 04:21:23,755 --> 04:21:26,155 difficult to finance and 7355 04:21:26,458 --> 04:21:27,125 discourage the private 7356 04:21:27,125 --> 04:21:27,792 investment needed to build, 7357 04:21:27,792 --> 04:21:28,259 operate and maintain housing 7358 04:21:28,259 --> 04:21:30,259 for San Diegans. 7359 04:21:31,629 --> 04:21:32,297 At a time when our city faces a 7360 04:21:32,297 --> 04:21:32,964 severe housing shortage, we 7361 04:21:32,964 --> 04:21:33,532 should be advancing policies 7362 04:21:33,532 --> 04:21:35,532 that encourage housing 7363 04:21:36,835 --> 04:21:37,502 production not adding new 7364 04:21:37,502 --> 04:21:38,170 barriers that could further 7365 04:21:38,170 --> 04:21:38,570 constrain housing supply and 7366 04:21:38,570 --> 04:21:40,570 investment. 7367 04:21:41,239 --> 04:21:41,807 We encourage the city to 7368 04:21:41,807 --> 04:21:42,407 continue working with 7369 04:21:42,407 --> 04:21:42,974 stakeholders on balanced 7370 04:21:42,974 --> 04:21:44,974 solutions that improve 7371 04:21:46,440 --> 04:21:46,645 transparency while also 7372 04:21:46,645 --> 04:21:47,312 preserving a predictable 7373 04:21:47,312 --> 04:21:47,980 regulatory environment that 7374 04:21:47,980 --> 04:21:48,413 supports housing production 7375 04:21:48,413 --> 04:21:50,413 affordability. 7376 04:21:50,816 --> 04:21:51,115 Thank you so much for your 7377 04:21:51,115 --> 04:21:51,483 time. 7378 04:21:51,483 --> 04:21:53,483 Thank you. 7379 04:21:55,287 --> 04:21:56,210 Please note that the five 7380 04:21:56,210 --> 04:21:56,588 minute timer has concluded with 7381 04:21:56,588 --> 04:21:56,954 nine speakers left in 7382 04:21:56,954 --> 04:21:58,954 the queue. 7383 04:22:00,920 --> 04:22:00,626 No other speakers will be taken 7384 04:22:00,626 --> 04:22:01,360 for public comment. 7385 04:22:01,360 --> 04:22:02,227 Our next speaker is C.J. 7386 04:22:02,227 --> 04:22:04,227 Mendoza. 7387 04:22:07,766 --> 04:22:08,300 Please begin. 7388 04:22:08,300 --> 04:22:09,100 >> Good afternoon. 7389 04:22:09,100 --> 04:22:12,337 I'm C.J. I'm with high school 7390 04:22:12,337 --> 04:22:12,804 and I urge you to vote yes on 7391 04:22:12,804 --> 04:22:13,405 this ordinance. 7392 04:22:13,405 --> 04:22:14,390 Hidden rental fees makes 7393 04:22:14,390 --> 04:22:16,439 housing more expensive and 7394 04:22:17,409 --> 04:22:18,143 unpredictable. 7395 04:22:18,143 --> 04:22:18,810 More cost transparency benefits 7396 04:22:18,810 --> 04:22:21,210 both renters and responsible 7397 04:22:21,980 --> 04:22:22,614 landlords. 7398 04:22:22,614 --> 04:22:23,314 In addition to the strong 7399 04:22:23,314 --> 04:22:24,490 support of the ordinance being 7400 04:22:24,490 --> 04:22:26,618 reviewed today, I urge the City 7401 04:22:26,618 --> 04:22:27,352 Council to explore the addition 7402 04:22:27,352 --> 04:22:27,986 of language that would prohibit 7403 04:22:27,986 --> 04:22:30,386 landlords from charging a 7404 04:22:31,590 --> 04:22:32,291 higher rent for additional 7405 04:22:32,291 --> 04:22:32,591 tenants living in the same 7406 04:22:32,591 --> 04:22:33,292 unit. 7407 04:22:33,292 --> 04:22:35,692 While language directly naming 7408 04:22:36,562 --> 04:22:37,362 the cost of additional tenants 7409 04:22:37,362 --> 04:22:37,995 ,many of the leases that were 7410 04:22:37,995 --> 04:22:39,995 reviewed included language 7411 04:22:41,333 --> 04:22:42,340 similarly limiting the tendency 7412 04:22:42,340 --> 04:22:42,735 of the unit to only those 7413 04:22:42,735 --> 04:22:45,735 signed to the lease agreement. 7414 04:22:45,771 --> 04:22:46,405 We understand that additional 7415 04:22:46,405 --> 04:22:47,720 tenants MAY trigger higher 7416 04:22:47,720 --> 04:22:49,472 utility consumption and MAY 7417 04:22:51,310 --> 04:22:51,944 result in higher utility bills 7418 04:22:51,944 --> 04:22:52,578 for that unit But the base 7419 04:22:52,578 --> 04:22:55,578 monthly rent should not be 7420 04:22:56,714 --> 04:22:57,349 allowed to change. 7421 04:22:57,349 --> 04:22:57,950 Many San Diego, especially 7422 04:22:57,950 --> 04:23:00,350 youth are vulnerable to 7423 04:23:00,719 --> 04:23:01,420 unpredictable employment status 7424 04:23:01,420 --> 04:23:01,853 and rising cost of living. 7425 04:23:01,853 --> 04:23:03,853 Unfortunately. 7426 04:23:05,957 --> 04:23:06,425 Thank you And please vote yes. 7427 04:23:06,425 --> 04:23:07,126 >> Thank you. 7428 04:23:07,126 --> 04:23:07,425 Our next speaker is Natalie 7429 04:23:07,425 --> 04:23:09,425 Roski. 7430 04:23:14,767 --> 04:23:16,767 Please begin. 7431 04:23:20,472 --> 04:23:20,775 Natalie Roski. 7432 04:23:20,775 --> 04:23:21,373 Hi. 7433 04:23:21,373 --> 04:23:21,674 Can you hear me? 7434 04:23:21,674 --> 04:23:22,108 Yes. 7435 04:23:22,108 --> 04:23:22,474 Please begin. 7436 04:23:22,474 --> 04:23:24,474 All right. 7437 04:23:25,177 --> 04:23:27,577 Natalie Ashley, District seven 7438 04:23:29,514 --> 04:23:30,216 I've been transparent most of 7439 04:23:30,216 --> 04:23:31,183 these meetings about what I go 7440 04:23:31,183 --> 04:23:34,220 through as a tenant in some of 7441 04:23:34,220 --> 04:23:36,620 these large apartment complexes 7442 04:23:39,125 --> 04:23:39,825 such as Money Vista. 7443 04:23:39,825 --> 04:23:40,660 If we're being currently, you 7444 04:23:40,660 --> 04:23:44,363 know, having to move and I have 7445 04:23:44,363 --> 04:23:45,131 a child that's 18. 7446 04:23:45,131 --> 04:23:45,997 So when you're married you have 7447 04:23:45,997 --> 04:23:49,597 to fill out an application for 7448 04:23:49,669 --> 04:23:50,369 yourself or your husband And 7449 04:23:50,369 --> 04:23:50,670 now I have an 18 year old 7450 04:23:50,670 --> 04:23:51,103 child. 7451 04:23:51,103 --> 04:23:53,103 That adds up. 7452 04:23:54,273 --> 04:23:54,874 We have some sub water charges 7453 04:23:54,874 --> 04:23:56,874 submitted water charges, 7454 04:23:59,110 --> 04:23:59,812 submitters sewer charges along 7455 04:23:59,812 --> 04:24:03,783 on top of the water and sewer 7456 04:24:03,783 --> 04:24:04,483 charge which they charge us a 7457 04:24:04,483 --> 04:24:04,884 on the size of our apartment 7458 04:24:04,884 --> 04:24:06,884 square foot. 7459 04:24:08,921 --> 04:24:09,655 So I could be conserving water 7460 04:24:09,655 --> 04:24:10,323 but that doesn't mean the other 7461 04:24:10,323 --> 04:24:13,693 my neighbor is and I'm still 7462 04:24:13,693 --> 04:24:13,993 being charged per my square 7463 04:24:13,993 --> 04:24:14,660 foot. 7464 04:24:14,660 --> 04:24:14,960 My garbage fees are $103 a 7465 04:24:14,960 --> 04:24:16,960 month. 7466 04:24:18,564 --> 04:24:19,265 It's starting to really become 7467 04:24:19,265 --> 04:24:19,932 overwhelming that families are 7468 04:24:19,932 --> 04:24:22,932 having to put themselves in 7469 04:24:26,539 --> 04:24:26,887 situation where they feel like 7470 04:24:26,887 --> 04:24:27,240 . 7471 04:24:27,240 --> 04:24:27,941 Thank you. 7472 04:24:27,941 --> 04:24:28,674 That does conclude your time. 7473 04:24:28,674 --> 04:24:31,676 Our next speaker is a caller 7474 04:24:31,676 --> 04:24:34,676 with the last four digits 8700. 7475 04:24:45,858 --> 04:24:46,426 Please begin. 7476 04:24:46,426 --> 04:24:48,426 >> Sorry about that. 7477 04:24:50,963 --> 04:24:51,731 Deputy City Clerk Joy Sonia. 7478 04:24:51,731 --> 04:24:54,731 >> Yeah, I'm glad I'm coming. 7479 04:24:55,568 --> 04:24:56,803 Excuse me. 7480 04:24:56,803 --> 04:25:00,606 I was a strong Yes and then I 7481 04:25:00,606 --> 04:25:01,308 listened and I listened 7482 04:25:01,308 --> 04:25:04,308 carefully to all the speakers 7483 04:25:05,344 --> 04:25:06,450 and wow, that was a lot of 7484 04:25:06,450 --> 04:25:09,645 information in a lot of it 7485 04:25:09,915 --> 04:25:10,683 seemed real on both sides. 7486 04:25:10,683 --> 04:25:13,830 So Councilmember Rivera, I'm 7487 04:25:14,487 --> 04:25:15,188 going to be a yes with an 7488 04:25:15,188 --> 04:25:18,188 amendment in the amendment is 7489 04:25:19,893 --> 04:25:23,493 that we get a little more 7490 04:25:23,563 --> 04:25:25,963 clarity on three things 7491 04:25:28,201 --> 04:25:28,834 stakeholders, more outreach to 7492 04:25:28,834 --> 04:25:31,234 stakeholders and get more 7493 04:25:32,939 --> 04:25:33,473 clarity on their losses and how 7494 04:25:33,473 --> 04:25:35,873 fair that would be. 7495 04:25:38,440 --> 04:25:38,945 And then polarizing language I 7496 04:25:38,945 --> 04:25:42,545 agree with Paul Kruger and for 7497 04:25:43,450 --> 04:25:44,184 some reason I don't feel 7498 04:25:44,184 --> 04:25:47,184 comfortable with the word junk. 7499 04:25:47,721 --> 04:25:48,621 It could be a personal bias in 7500 04:25:48,621 --> 04:25:52,459 some way but is that being used 7501 04:25:52,459 --> 04:25:53,159 in a professional legal way? 7502 04:25:53,159 --> 04:25:53,526 That does conclude your take. 7503 04:25:53,526 --> 04:25:55,526 Thank you. 7504 04:26:01,534 --> 04:26:02,201 Kevin hang on a second. 7505 04:26:02,201 --> 04:26:02,835 That's why I'm hanging on. 7506 04:26:02,835 --> 04:26:05,205 But you guys earn it. 7507 04:26:05,205 --> 04:26:06,720 No, we don't. 7508 04:26:06,720 --> 04:26:06,740 >> We're going to take a brief 7509 04:26:06,740 --> 04:26:09,140 recess until we reestablish 7510 04:26:09,676 --> 04:26:11,676 quorum. 7511 04:26:19,920 --> 04:26:21,920 Thank you. 7512 04:26:32,766 --> 04:26:36,366 Henry I'm glad to hear from 7513 04:26:46,780 --> 04:26:49,180 just one of them. 7514 04:26:52,118 --> 04:26:52,518 Yes. 7515 04:26:52,518 --> 04:26:52,819 Yes. 7516 04:26:52,819 --> 04:26:54,819 Okay. 7517 04:26:56,756 --> 04:26:57,356 And we're back. 7518 04:26:57,356 --> 04:26:57,658 Come and continue on. 7519 04:26:57,658 --> 04:26:59,658 Okay. 7520 04:27:01,394 --> 04:27:01,929 Our next speaker is Hector. 7521 04:27:01,929 --> 04:27:02,295 >> Please begin. 7522 04:27:02,295 --> 04:27:04,295 All right. 7523 04:27:06,133 --> 04:27:06,900 Thanks for taking my call. 7524 04:27:06,900 --> 04:27:07,567 Hey, you guys should have these 7525 04:27:07,567 --> 04:27:10,567 meetings at night when more 7526 04:27:11,538 --> 04:27:12,238 guys can afford to come there 7527 04:27:12,238 --> 04:27:13,600 and pass out a free trial. 7528 04:27:13,600 --> 04:27:15,406 A day passes for 7529 04:27:16,343 --> 04:27:16,743 the participants that actually 7530 04:27:16,743 --> 04:27:17,444 come there. 7531 04:27:17,444 --> 04:27:20,247 That'd be great because these 7532 04:27:20,247 --> 04:27:20,913 guys are street level men. 7533 04:27:20,913 --> 04:27:21,281 Regulate them Billionaire 7534 04:27:21,281 --> 04:27:23,281 companies. 7535 04:27:25,686 --> 04:27:26,420 They're trying to do. 7536 04:27:26,420 --> 04:27:27,154 They're the ones charging all 7537 04:27:27,154 --> 04:27:27,521 these fees and any fee they can 7538 04:27:27,521 --> 04:27:29,521 think of. 7539 04:27:30,657 --> 04:27:33,394 And you guys are charging fees 7540 04:27:33,394 --> 04:27:34,940 also man just hired 18 more 7541 04:27:34,940 --> 04:27:37,940 parking meter guys and given 7542 04:27:38,632 --> 04:27:39,366 out tickets left and right. 7543 04:27:39,366 --> 04:27:39,832 Plus you guys are the ultimate 7544 04:27:39,832 --> 04:27:41,832 bait and switch. 7545 04:27:43,570 --> 04:27:44,237 There's these guys The big guys 7546 04:27:44,237 --> 04:27:47,837 are bait and switch and on 7547 04:27:49,750 --> 04:27:49,777 these things the rest three 7548 04:27:49,777 --> 04:27:50,244 grand but it really turns out 7549 04:27:50,244 --> 04:27:52,244 to be 36 grand. 7550 04:27:53,647 --> 04:27:54,415 Kind of like what you guys did 7551 04:27:54,415 --> 04:27:55,115 on the track b You guys are 7552 04:27:55,115 --> 04:27:58,115 the ultimate bait and switch 7553 04:27:58,252 --> 04:27:58,853 switchers and I don't know if 7554 04:27:58,853 --> 04:27:59,620 you guys even have these 7555 04:27:59,620 --> 04:28:02,620 meetings man with a straight 7556 04:28:03,556 --> 04:28:04,258 face but to regulate the big 7557 04:28:04,258 --> 04:28:06,727 guys they're scamming and they 7558 04:28:06,727 --> 04:28:07,494 don't care. 7559 04:28:07,494 --> 04:28:10,494 >> The little guys are cool. 7560 04:28:10,698 --> 04:28:13,980 Thank you Melissa Peterman 7561 04:28:16,270 --> 04:28:17,104 Please begin. 7562 04:28:17,104 --> 04:28:17,671 >> Hi, my name's Melissa 7563 04:28:17,671 --> 04:28:20,710 Peterman and I'm with 7564 04:28:20,107 --> 04:28:20,874 townspeople in affordable 7565 04:28:20,874 --> 04:28:23,874 Housing nonprofit and we're in 7566 04:28:24,945 --> 04:28:25,880 support of the ordinance. 7567 04:28:25,880 --> 04:28:26,614 We always look at how we charge 7568 04:28:26,614 --> 04:28:29,614 people and although not unusual 7569 04:28:30,150 --> 04:28:30,918 to charge a late fee, we 7570 04:28:30,918 --> 04:28:31,785 decided not to By and large our 7571 04:28:31,785 --> 04:28:35,385 tenants pay their rent and when 7572 04:28:35,389 --> 04:28:36,570 they don't it's because 7573 04:28:36,570 --> 04:28:36,724 something bad happened which 7574 04:28:36,724 --> 04:28:40,194 tells us that if our tenants 7575 04:28:40,194 --> 04:28:40,895 have the money they pay and if 7576 04:28:40,895 --> 04:28:41,594 they don't charging them extra 7577 04:28:41,594 --> 04:28:41,862 doesn't help them come up with 7578 04:28:41,862 --> 04:28:43,862 it. 7579 04:28:44,365 --> 04:28:44,998 It just punishes them for 7580 04:28:44,998 --> 04:28:45,866 having a rough month which 7581 04:28:45,866 --> 04:28:49,466 doesn't feel right to us as 7582 04:28:49,904 --> 04:28:50,604 others have said, it's not that 7583 04:28:50,604 --> 04:28:50,905 landlords should never charge 7584 04:28:50,905 --> 04:28:52,905 fees. 7585 04:28:54,208 --> 04:28:54,975 The costs of housing are real. 7586 04:28:54,975 --> 04:28:57,375 We're an affordable housing 7587 04:28:59,146 --> 04:28:59,847 nonprofit not flush with cash 7588 04:28:59,847 --> 04:29:00,781 and we operate without them If 7589 04:29:00,781 --> 04:29:04,850 a fee is needed put it in 7590 04:29:04,850 --> 04:29:04,452 the listing, put it in 7591 04:29:04,452 --> 04:29:05,119 the lease. 7592 04:29:05,119 --> 04:29:05,753 Let people make an informed 7593 04:29:05,753 --> 04:29:08,153 decision before they sign 7594 04:29:08,623 --> 04:29:09,490 anything. 7595 04:29:09,490 --> 04:29:10,157 Finding a home in our community 7596 04:29:10,157 --> 04:29:13,461 is a lot and the last thing 7597 04:29:13,461 --> 04:29:14,128 someone needs is to finally 7598 04:29:14,128 --> 04:29:14,829 land somewhere, do the math, 7599 04:29:14,829 --> 04:29:15,630 get excited, move in and find 7600 04:29:15,630 --> 04:29:19,230 out that number was never a 7601 04:29:19,467 --> 04:29:19,934 real The ordinance says be up 7602 04:29:19,934 --> 04:29:20,635 front and work. 7603 04:29:20,635 --> 04:29:21,200 >> Thank you both and conclude 7604 04:29:21,200 --> 04:29:23,200 your time. 7605 04:29:23,571 --> 04:29:27,171 Our next speaker is Kim Arnold. 7606 04:29:39,420 --> 04:29:39,721 Please Kim Arnold, please begin 7607 04:29:39,721 --> 04:29:41,721 . 7608 04:29:44,725 --> 04:29:44,993 Kim Arnold? 7609 04:29:44,993 --> 04:29:45,292 Yes? 7610 04:29:45,292 --> 04:29:45,860 Hi. 7611 04:29:45,860 --> 04:29:46,560 Can you hear me? 7612 04:29:46,560 --> 04:29:49,960 Yes, we can hear you. 7613 04:29:49,960 --> 04:29:49,864 Thank you. 7614 04:29:49,864 --> 04:29:50,498 >> I represent a small family 7615 04:29:50,498 --> 04:29:52,498 owned management company. 7616 04:29:53,401 --> 04:29:54,680 First off as a rental housing 7617 04:29:54,680 --> 04:29:56,468 provider we absolutely agree 7618 04:29:57,640 --> 04:29:58,339 with price transparency and 7619 04:29:58,339 --> 04:29:59,730 we've already rolled it out 7620 04:29:59,730 --> 04:29:59,707 across the board for all of our 7621 04:29:59,707 --> 04:30:01,707 rental properties housing 7622 04:30:03,411 --> 04:30:04,112 providers should be upfront 7623 04:30:04,112 --> 04:30:04,846 with the total costs and fees 7624 04:30:04,846 --> 04:30:08,820 for the rentals that they offer 7625 04:30:08,820 --> 04:30:08,749 but some fees are necessary as 7626 04:30:08,749 --> 04:30:09,550 long as they are disclosed. 7627 04:30:09,550 --> 04:30:13,150 Were you aware that dog pet 7628 04:30:13,321 --> 04:30:14,880 stations cost anywhere from 4 7629 04:30:14,880 --> 04:30:14,889 to $600 each and need to be 7630 04:30:14,889 --> 04:30:17,758 replaced every couple of years 7631 04:30:17,758 --> 04:30:18,793 due to corrosion? 7632 04:30:18,793 --> 04:30:22,564 Pet waste bags are not free but 7633 04:30:22,564 --> 04:30:23,298 more importantly fraud is a 7634 04:30:23,298 --> 04:30:26,898 real issue in our industry with 7635 04:30:27,202 --> 04:30:27,835 websites out there that sell 7636 04:30:27,835 --> 04:30:28,503 fake screening documents. 7637 04:30:28,503 --> 04:30:29,700 Housing providers need to be 7638 04:30:29,700 --> 04:30:32,700 able to pull their own 7639 04:30:32,373 --> 04:30:33,141 screening reports from trusted 7640 04:30:33,141 --> 04:30:36,141 providers to cut out fraudulent 7641 04:30:36,845 --> 04:30:37,545 applications. 7642 04:30:37,545 --> 04:30:38,278 Let's work together for common 7643 04:30:38,278 --> 04:30:41,278 sense changes to this ordinance 7644 04:30:41,883 --> 04:30:42,384 that can work for all parties. 7645 04:30:42,384 --> 04:30:42,751 >> Thank you. 7646 04:30:42,751 --> 04:30:43,418 Thank you. 7647 04:30:43,418 --> 04:30:43,752 Our next speaker is Blair 7648 04:30:43,752 --> 04:30:45,752 Beekman. 7649 04:30:47,322 --> 04:30:47,856 Please begin. 7650 04:30:47,856 --> 04:30:48,223 >> All right. 7651 04:30:48,223 --> 04:30:50,223 Thank you. 7652 04:30:52,427 --> 04:30:53,280 Blair Beekman The beginning of 7653 04:30:53,280 --> 04:30:53,762 the presentation to make 7654 04:30:53,762 --> 04:30:56,762 housing more affordable for San 7655 04:30:57,132 --> 04:30:57,666 Diegans And third is promote 7656 04:30:57,666 --> 04:30:58,300 fairness, equity and 7657 04:30:58,300 --> 04:31:00,300 transparency regarding how 7658 04:31:01,736 --> 04:31:02,404 landlords change fees. 7659 04:31:02,404 --> 04:31:02,771 >> That order should be 7660 04:31:02,771 --> 04:31:04,771 reversed. 7661 04:31:05,907 --> 04:31:06,241 I think that's a starting point 7662 04:31:06,241 --> 04:31:07,175 . 7663 04:31:07,175 --> 04:31:11,375 I think this is an item that 7664 04:31:11,713 --> 04:31:12,479 speaks to our our best selves 7665 04:31:12,479 --> 04:31:15,479 and that tenants rights should 7666 04:31:16,170 --> 04:31:16,885 be an issue that we are working 7667 04:31:16,885 --> 04:31:20,485 towards and how we build our 7668 04:31:21,123 --> 04:31:21,456 future and that it shouldn't be 7669 04:31:21,456 --> 04:31:22,124 feared. 7670 04:31:22,124 --> 04:31:22,524 We can work together toward 7671 04:31:22,524 --> 04:31:24,524 those goals. 7672 04:31:26,361 --> 04:31:27,620 So you know the issues for 7673 04:31:27,620 --> 04:31:29,965 landlords can't they can't we 7674 04:31:29,965 --> 04:31:30,665 work out something with 7675 04:31:30,665 --> 04:31:31,533 the city that they can create 7676 04:31:31,533 --> 04:31:35,133 some sort of funding pattern so 7677 04:31:35,337 --> 04:31:36,370 they can dip into for 7678 04:31:36,370 --> 04:31:39,370 operational costs and work out 7679 04:31:39,708 --> 04:31:40,408 a system like that for really 7680 04:31:40,408 --> 04:31:43,408 great measure That sounds like 7681 04:31:44,813 --> 04:31:45,514 how how can operational costs 7682 04:31:45,514 --> 04:31:46,248 be supported by the city for 7683 04:31:46,248 --> 04:31:46,948 landlords and for landlords who 7684 04:31:46,948 --> 04:31:50,548 don't want to use that system 7685 04:31:51,186 --> 04:31:51,919 they can offer you can offer a 7686 04:31:51,919 --> 04:31:52,454 good legislative package and so 7687 04:31:52,454 --> 04:31:52,888 they have to return. 7688 04:31:52,888 --> 04:31:54,888 >> Thank you. 7689 04:31:57,926 --> 04:31:58,660 That does conclude your time. 7690 04:31:58,660 --> 04:31:59,294 Next speaker is a caller with 7691 04:31:59,294 --> 04:32:01,694 the last four digits 2538. 7692 04:32:11,639 --> 04:32:12,441 Please begin. 7693 04:32:12,441 --> 04:32:12,840 >> Caller with the last four 7694 04:32:12,840 --> 04:32:14,343 digits 2538. 7695 04:32:14,343 --> 04:32:16,343 Please begin. 7696 04:32:20,916 --> 04:32:21,884 >> I cannot unmute for you. 7697 04:32:21,884 --> 04:32:25,484 >> The only other thing I think 7698 04:32:26,221 --> 04:32:26,555 is very Hello my name is 7699 04:32:26,555 --> 04:32:27,288 Stedman. 7700 04:32:27,288 --> 04:32:29,591 i am a researcher and policy 7701 04:32:29,591 --> 04:32:30,125 advocate with the Center on 7702 04:32:30,125 --> 04:32:30,726 Policy Initiatives. 7703 04:32:30,726 --> 04:32:33,126 Sorry about the founding 7704 04:32:35,964 --> 04:32:36,701 syndication I have to struggle 7705 04:32:36,701 --> 04:32:37,333 to submit housing applications. 7706 04:32:37,333 --> 04:32:39,400 I was looking for housing 7707 04:32:39,400 --> 04:32:39,935 shelter That's both a financial 7708 04:32:39,935 --> 04:32:40,869 burden on renters. 7709 04:32:40,869 --> 04:32:44,600 We should be able to budget for 7710 04:32:44,600 --> 04:32:44,706 living expenses without having 7711 04:32:44,706 --> 04:32:45,374 to worry about unexpected fees 7712 04:32:45,374 --> 04:32:47,774 holding us back financially. 7713 04:32:48,577 --> 04:32:49,211 That's why I'm here in support 7714 04:32:49,211 --> 04:32:49,912 of a proposed ordinance to 7715 04:32:49,912 --> 04:32:50,478 address financial exploitation 7716 04:32:50,478 --> 04:32:53,478 and the need for cost 7717 04:32:54,182 --> 04:32:54,916 transparency something that no 7718 04:32:54,916 --> 04:32:55,617 ethical landlord should oppose. 7719 04:32:55,617 --> 04:32:59,217 I also ask that the ordinance 7720 04:32:59,521 --> 04:33:00,256 includes necessary protections 7721 04:33:00,256 --> 04:33:03,492 to ensure that landlords do not 7722 04:33:03,492 --> 04:33:04,590 pass the cost of basic fees to 7723 04:33:04,590 --> 04:33:04,793 people's cost of rent. 7724 04:33:04,793 --> 04:33:05,494 What is being asked as a bare 7725 04:33:05,494 --> 04:33:08,494 minimum landlord should not be 7726 04:33:08,530 --> 04:33:09,131 able to squeeze more money out 7727 04:33:09,131 --> 04:33:09,798 of working families with 7728 04:33:09,798 --> 04:33:10,165 the rising cost of living in 7729 04:33:10,165 --> 04:33:12,165 San Diego. 7730 04:33:13,602 --> 04:33:14,203 City Council needs to take 7731 04:33:14,203 --> 04:33:14,703 action to prevent added 7732 04:33:14,703 --> 04:33:15,304 economic hardship. 7733 04:33:15,304 --> 04:33:18,304 Moving this forward is a 7734 04:33:18,573 --> 04:33:19,208 necessary step at your chair to 7735 04:33:19,208 --> 04:33:19,941 support this ordinance and 7736 04:33:19,941 --> 04:33:22,344 stand up for tenant protections 7737 04:33:22,344 --> 04:33:22,812 and landlord accountability. 7738 04:33:22,812 --> 04:33:23,212 >> Thank you. 7739 04:33:23,212 --> 04:33:24,790 Thank you. 7740 04:33:24,790 --> 04:33:24,947 Our next speaker is Thelma 7741 04:33:24,947 --> 04:33:26,947 Navarro. 7742 04:33:35,191 --> 04:33:37,191 Please begin. 7743 04:33:39,761 --> 04:33:40,529 Okay. 7744 04:33:40,529 --> 04:33:41,196 Looks like we lost Thelma. 7745 04:33:41,196 --> 04:33:41,530 That does conclude a virtual 7746 04:33:41,530 --> 04:33:43,530 comment. 7747 04:33:45,268 --> 04:33:46,100 We do. 7748 04:33:46,100 --> 04:33:46,735 We also have received speaker 7749 04:33:46,735 --> 04:33:49,735 slips that would like to 7750 04:33:50,139 --> 04:33:50,438 register a position but not 7751 04:33:50,438 --> 04:33:52,438 speak. 7752 04:33:52,708 --> 04:33:56,308 We did receive one slip to 7753 04:33:57,813 --> 04:33:58,514 speak in favor by aj Estrada 7754 04:33:58,514 --> 04:34:00,914 and the following individuals 7755 04:34:03,953 --> 04:34:04,453 submitted slips in opposition. 7756 04:34:04,453 --> 04:34:04,854 Jack and Hale. 7757 04:34:04,854 --> 04:34:06,854 Doug Dunbar. 7758 04:34:08,991 --> 04:34:11,991 Wendy Montgomery a rain Shaker. 7759 04:34:13,963 --> 04:34:14,296 Annabel Cloutier Chanel Sotelo. 7760 04:34:14,296 --> 04:34:16,296 Bertha. 7761 04:34:18,301 --> 04:34:18,768 Alicia Pichardo. 7762 04:34:18,768 --> 04:34:20,768 Alisha Mendez. 7763 04:34:22,738 --> 04:34:23,238 Doris said Duff. 7764 04:34:23,238 --> 04:34:25,238 Grant Beckwith. 7765 04:34:27,844 --> 04:34:30,244 Rodrigo Herrero de Faria. 7766 04:34:32,515 --> 04:34:33,820 And that does conclude public 7767 04:34:33,820 --> 04:34:33,449 comment for item 330. 7768 04:34:33,449 --> 04:34:35,449 All right. 7769 04:34:37,853 --> 04:34:38,854 Thank you, Deputy Clerk. 7770 04:34:38,854 --> 04:34:39,489 As I like to do on these big 7771 04:34:39,489 --> 04:34:40,289 meetings, let's give a big 7772 04:34:40,289 --> 04:34:42,291 round of applause to our deputy 7773 04:34:42,291 --> 04:34:42,992 clerk and the entire city clerk 7774 04:34:42,992 --> 04:34:45,992 staff for keeping us organized 7775 04:34:46,362 --> 04:34:47,330 and on point. 7776 04:34:47,330 --> 04:34:48,970 You guys always do a great work 7777 04:34:48,970 --> 04:34:51,600 despite how many people show up 7778 04:34:51,600 --> 04:34:52,502 to speak. 7779 04:34:52,502 --> 04:34:53,135 >> This is an information item 7780 04:34:53,135 --> 04:34:53,736 so no motions required and 7781 04:34:53,736 --> 04:34:56,672 we'll turn it over to 7782 04:34:56,672 --> 04:34:57,400 Councilmember questions and 7783 04:34:57,400 --> 04:34:57,707 comments. 7784 04:34:57,707 --> 04:34:58,374 And I'm going to start with 7785 04:34:58,374 --> 04:35:01,374 the two council members that 7786 04:35:01,944 --> 04:35:02,545 are bringing this item forward 7787 04:35:02,545 --> 04:35:03,213 and we'll start with you 7788 04:35:03,213 --> 04:35:05,613 Council member Ella Rivera. 7789 04:35:06,149 --> 04:35:06,916 All right. 7790 04:35:06,916 --> 04:35:07,784 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 7791 04:35:07,784 --> 04:35:11,384 Thank you again to Jeffrey and 7792 04:35:11,388 --> 04:35:12,155 Maya, to Hilda with the city 7793 04:35:12,155 --> 04:35:15,155 attorney's office and all of 7794 04:35:15,859 --> 04:35:16,526 the community folks who we 7795 04:35:16,526 --> 04:35:19,526 worked with over the last 7796 04:35:20,697 --> 04:35:23,697 several months In addition to 7797 04:35:25,135 --> 04:35:25,869 Councilmember Foster's office 7798 04:35:25,869 --> 04:35:26,569 and our colleagues at the Board 7799 04:35:26,569 --> 04:35:29,806 of Supervisors to get to where 7800 04:35:29,806 --> 04:35:30,573 we are today. 7801 04:35:30,573 --> 04:35:33,573 As I mentioned before this 7802 04:35:33,977 --> 04:35:34,644 conversation started last year 7803 04:35:34,644 --> 04:35:37,644 at the committee to address 7804 04:35:38,948 --> 04:35:39,715 the cost of living. 7805 04:35:39,715 --> 04:35:40,450 And what we kept hearing from 7806 04:35:40,450 --> 04:35:43,450 committee members about the way 7807 04:35:43,887 --> 04:35:44,588 that ways that hidden fees and 7808 04:35:44,588 --> 04:35:47,588 junk fees were impacting their 7809 04:35:48,625 --> 04:35:49,292 ability to see a future in this 7810 04:35:49,292 --> 04:35:49,893 city at the end of the day. 7811 04:35:49,893 --> 04:35:52,893 That is what we are. 7812 04:35:53,930 --> 04:35:54,533 We are fighting for is to make 7813 04:35:54,533 --> 04:35:55,397 San Diego a place where 7814 04:35:55,397 --> 04:35:58,335 everyone sees a real future for 7815 04:35:58,335 --> 04:35:59,350 themselves where young people 7816 04:35:59,350 --> 04:35:59,703 who are in college or just 7817 04:35:59,703 --> 04:36:02,103 graduated can see themselves 7818 04:36:03,390 --> 04:36:03,707 continuing to live here where 7819 04:36:03,707 --> 04:36:04,407 young families actually feel 7820 04:36:04,407 --> 04:36:04,741 like they have a chance to to 7821 04:36:04,741 --> 04:36:06,741 make it. 7822 04:36:07,411 --> 04:36:08,770 And we're seniors don't feel 7823 04:36:08,770 --> 04:36:08,778 like they're consistently on 7824 04:36:08,778 --> 04:36:12,378 the cusp of being priced out. 7825 04:36:12,649 --> 04:36:13,450 And all of that is becoming 7826 04:36:13,450 --> 04:36:16,450 more and more challenging for 7827 04:36:17,200 --> 04:36:19,420 everyday people these days. 7828 04:36:21,558 --> 04:36:22,192 And in addition to that, 7829 04:36:22,192 --> 04:36:25,192 housing is a human right. 7830 04:36:26,195 --> 04:36:26,963 And so with all of that in mind 7831 04:36:26,963 --> 04:36:29,963 ,we think that reining in 7832 04:36:31,133 --> 04:36:31,735 these excessive fees, these 7833 04:36:31,735 --> 04:36:32,369 deceptive and sometimes 7834 04:36:32,369 --> 04:36:34,769 completely hidden fees is 7835 04:36:36,373 --> 04:36:37,390 essential for making San Diego 7836 04:36:37,390 --> 04:36:37,507 a more affordable place for 7837 04:36:37,507 --> 04:36:39,507 everyday people. 7838 04:36:41,344 --> 04:36:41,911 We I want to also acknowledge a 7839 04:36:41,911 --> 04:36:44,311 couple of things here. 7840 04:36:45,716 --> 04:36:49,916 One is is the renters who spoke 7841 04:36:49,953 --> 04:36:54,153 up that did take a lot of 7842 04:36:54,657 --> 04:36:55,325 courage because it is not as if 7843 04:36:55,325 --> 04:36:55,625 retaliation is a theoretical 7844 04:36:55,625 --> 04:36:57,625 issue. 7845 04:36:59,730 --> 04:37:00,530 It's a real issue. 7846 04:37:00,530 --> 04:37:01,164 We heard from multiple people 7847 04:37:01,164 --> 04:37:04,164 today about the ways that 7848 04:37:04,468 --> 04:37:06,868 they've been retaliated against 7849 04:37:09,406 --> 04:37:09,907 for simply asking what the law 7850 04:37:09,907 --> 04:37:11,907 already requires. 7851 04:37:14,511 --> 04:37:17,511 And while while there are 7852 04:37:18,949 --> 04:37:19,650 remedies to that, it often 7853 04:37:19,650 --> 04:37:22,650 comes at considerable cost and 7854 04:37:22,686 --> 04:37:26,286 a real decision as to whether 7855 04:37:27,791 --> 04:37:28,392 or not the willingness to speak 7856 04:37:28,392 --> 04:37:29,930 your mind is worth all 7857 04:37:29,930 --> 04:37:30,427 the discomfort that comes with 7858 04:37:30,427 --> 04:37:33,427 having a landlord that's trying 7859 04:37:35,632 --> 04:37:36,399 to push you out of your home. 7860 04:37:36,399 --> 04:37:36,999 I want to acknowledge the good 7861 04:37:36,999 --> 04:37:37,634 landlords who are here. 7862 04:37:37,634 --> 04:37:38,201 The gentleman who spoke at 7863 04:37:38,201 --> 04:37:40,601 the beginning of this 7864 04:37:40,738 --> 04:37:43,138 conversation who seems like 7865 04:37:45,275 --> 04:37:45,976 the most upright and honest 7866 04:37:45,976 --> 04:37:48,976 business person that we could 7867 04:37:50,114 --> 04:37:50,714 ask for if that is what every 7868 04:37:50,714 --> 04:37:51,382 renter in San Diego is 7869 04:37:51,382 --> 04:37:53,782 experiencing we wouldn't be 7870 04:37:55,850 --> 04:37:55,352 having this conversation right 7871 04:37:55,352 --> 04:37:56,530 now. 7872 04:37:56,530 --> 04:37:58,453 Unfortunately that is not 7873 04:37:58,822 --> 04:38:01,822 the way every landlord is 7874 04:38:03,627 --> 04:38:04,395 treating their tenants. 7875 04:38:04,395 --> 04:38:05,620 >> It was said today that 7876 04:38:05,620 --> 04:38:08,620 everyone has the same goal. 7877 04:38:08,197 --> 04:38:08,966 And I actually think that in 7878 04:38:08,966 --> 04:38:11,966 this case that's actually not 7879 04:38:12,836 --> 04:38:13,537 true. 7880 04:38:13,537 --> 04:38:14,271 There are corporate landlords 7881 04:38:14,271 --> 04:38:17,775 and others whose goal is to 7882 04:38:17,775 --> 04:38:18,475 make as much money as they 7883 04:38:18,475 --> 04:38:21,475 possibly can off every person 7884 04:38:22,246 --> 04:38:23,113 in their homes no matter what 7885 04:38:23,113 --> 04:38:26,713 what impact that has on those 7886 04:38:27,384 --> 04:38:28,219 people. 7887 04:38:28,219 --> 04:38:29,186 And then there's the rest of us 7888 04:38:29,186 --> 04:38:31,722 who are just trying to get by 7889 04:38:31,722 --> 04:38:35,322 and want to see their neighbors 7890 04:38:37,228 --> 04:38:37,862 survive and thrive And that's 7891 04:38:37,862 --> 04:38:40,862 who we're going who we're 7892 04:38:41,698 --> 04:38:44,698 trying to fight for here. 7893 04:38:46,871 --> 04:38:47,672 On the issue of fairness and 7894 04:38:47,672 --> 04:38:50,720 transparency, I appreciate that 7895 04:38:51,475 --> 04:38:52,176 There was multiple landlords 7896 04:38:52,176 --> 04:38:55,776 who said they agree with with 7897 04:38:56,380 --> 04:38:57,800 that And I think most are doing 7898 04:38:57,800 --> 04:39:00,800 their best to be transparent. 7899 04:39:01,218 --> 04:39:01,819 But here's the thing 7900 04:39:01,819 --> 04:39:04,819 The honesty of an honest 7901 04:39:06,257 --> 04:39:06,958 landlord doesn't erase or 7902 04:39:06,958 --> 04:39:07,658 protect renters from the harm 7903 04:39:07,658 --> 04:39:10,658 caused by dishonest and greedy 7904 04:39:10,761 --> 04:39:12,761 landlords. 7905 04:39:16,330 --> 04:39:16,767 And if a fee can be disclosed 7906 04:39:16,767 --> 04:39:20,367 to banks or in financial models 7907 04:39:21,138 --> 04:39:21,739 or loan agreements, there is no 7908 04:39:21,739 --> 04:39:24,739 reason why it cannot be 7909 04:39:25,409 --> 04:39:26,577 disclosed to renters. 7910 04:39:26,577 --> 04:39:30,777 >> So when we say that fees are 7911 04:39:30,815 --> 04:39:31,549 not secret because they're 7912 04:39:31,549 --> 04:39:32,183 baked into the financial models 7913 04:39:32,183 --> 04:39:35,183 no they're not secret from 7914 04:39:36,860 --> 04:39:36,754 the banks and the lenders and 7915 04:39:36,754 --> 04:39:37,221 the people who are profiting 7916 04:39:37,221 --> 04:39:39,221 off the system. 7917 04:39:41,325 --> 04:39:45,525 But they are to the people who 7918 04:39:45,596 --> 04:39:46,263 are scratching in clean and 7919 04:39:46,263 --> 04:39:46,964 fighting with other renters 7920 04:39:46,964 --> 04:39:49,964 over the limited housing stock 7921 04:39:50,168 --> 04:39:51,350 that we have. 7922 04:39:51,350 --> 04:39:54,350 And just because something is 7923 04:39:55,340 --> 04:39:55,673 baked in does not mean it's not 7924 04:39:55,673 --> 04:39:56,541 harmful. 7925 04:39:56,541 --> 04:40:00,141 In fact it could be very 7926 04:40:00,211 --> 04:40:00,877 harmful. 7927 04:40:00,877 --> 04:40:01,512 A 2021 needs assessment by 7928 04:40:01,512 --> 04:40:02,213 serving seniors found that 7929 04:40:02,213 --> 04:40:05,213 financial distress is a driver 7930 04:40:05,449 --> 04:40:05,883 for older adults into 7931 04:40:05,883 --> 04:40:06,584 homelessness. 7932 04:40:06,584 --> 04:40:07,284 In an environment where 33% of 7933 04:40:07,284 --> 04:40:09,684 the unsheltered population are 7934 04:40:10,880 --> 04:40:10,788 individuals that are 55 and up, 7935 04:40:10,788 --> 04:40:11,456 we can see why transparency is 7936 04:40:11,456 --> 04:40:14,125 so vital for people who are 7937 04:40:14,125 --> 04:40:16,525 living on fixed incomes. 7938 04:40:18,930 --> 04:40:23,130 >> So with all of all of this 7939 04:40:23,635 --> 04:40:24,435 in mind, the hope today is that 7940 04:40:24,435 --> 04:40:25,103 after I've made my comments and 7941 04:40:25,103 --> 04:40:25,804 you've seen the presentation 7942 04:40:25,804 --> 04:40:28,204 and Councilmember Foster hears 7943 04:40:28,573 --> 04:40:29,140 yours, we can get feedback 7944 04:40:29,140 --> 04:40:31,140 Council PRESIDENT From 7945 04:40:32,944 --> 04:40:33,845 the council from our colleagues 7946 04:40:33,845 --> 04:40:34,612 so that when we bring a draft 7947 04:40:34,612 --> 04:40:37,612 ordinance, when we bring an 7948 04:40:38,383 --> 04:40:39,183 ordinance forward in the fall, 7949 04:40:39,183 --> 04:40:42,783 it's one that everyone has had 7950 04:40:42,854 --> 04:40:43,655 a chance to see to weigh in on 7951 04:40:43,655 --> 04:40:47,692 and we can get to the work of 7952 04:40:47,692 --> 04:40:48,359 making San Diego a place where 7953 04:40:48,359 --> 04:40:51,359 renters have the rights that 7954 04:40:52,930 --> 04:40:53,631 they should have the chance. 7955 04:40:53,631 --> 04:40:54,265 Parents see that any consumer 7956 04:40:54,265 --> 04:40:54,966 should have and they will 7957 04:40:54,966 --> 04:40:57,966 actually believe that they can 7958 04:40:58,669 --> 04:40:59,137 continue to live in the city 7959 04:40:59,137 --> 04:40:59,704 that they love. 7960 04:40:59,704 --> 04:41:00,710 >> Thank you, Council 7961 04:41:00,710 --> 04:41:00,437 PRESIDENT. 7962 04:41:00,437 --> 04:41:00,805 All right. 7963 04:41:00,805 --> 04:41:01,473 Thank you. 7964 04:41:01,473 --> 04:41:01,806 Council member Councilmember 7965 04:41:01,806 --> 04:41:02,474 Rivera. 7966 04:41:02,474 --> 04:41:06,740 >> Now I will go to Council 7967 04:41:06,645 --> 04:41:08,645 member Foster. 7968 04:41:11,449 --> 04:41:13,849 Yes, Thank you, Council 7969 04:41:16,870 --> 04:41:19,870 PRESIDENT And thank you Council 7970 04:41:20,625 --> 04:41:21,260 member Isla Rivera to you in 7971 04:41:21,260 --> 04:41:22,159 your team. 7972 04:41:22,159 --> 04:41:26,310 Also just want to say a big 7973 04:41:26,310 --> 04:41:26,398 thank you to our county 7974 04:41:26,398 --> 04:41:27,980 partners. 7975 04:41:27,980 --> 04:41:30,980 We've had a lot of 7976 04:41:30,969 --> 04:41:33,969 conversations to get to this 7977 04:41:35,507 --> 04:41:36,740 point to where there was 7978 04:41:36,740 --> 04:41:38,740 something to present. 7979 04:41:40,345 --> 04:41:41,113 And I do want to be clear that 7980 04:41:41,113 --> 04:41:44,713 this was intentional to have as 7981 04:41:45,350 --> 04:41:48,350 an information an item because 7982 04:41:49,720 --> 04:41:50,689 it was to introduce the item 7983 04:41:50,689 --> 04:41:54,889 and to make sure that we were 7984 04:41:55,494 --> 04:41:58,494 able to receive feedback to 7985 04:42:00,598 --> 04:42:04,198 look at all sides of this. 7986 04:42:04,903 --> 04:42:05,570 When this was presented at 7987 04:42:05,570 --> 04:42:07,970 the originally discussed at 7988 04:42:10,508 --> 04:42:13,508 Committee I to have concerns. 7989 04:42:14,913 --> 04:42:15,347 A lot of times you hear in 7990 04:42:15,347 --> 04:42:16,810 District four. 7991 04:42:16,810 --> 04:42:19,810 One thing that really does 7992 04:42:20,719 --> 04:42:21,420 strike me is the type of 7993 04:42:21,420 --> 04:42:25,200 product that we tend to get 7994 04:42:25,557 --> 04:42:25,991 presented as we were talking 7995 04:42:25,991 --> 04:42:27,991 about housing. 7996 04:42:30,496 --> 04:42:31,263 And so I wanted to make sure 7997 04:42:31,263 --> 04:42:35,463 that I was at the table and 7998 04:42:35,600 --> 04:42:39,200 able to work through not only 7999 04:42:40,805 --> 04:42:43,205 public concern, whether you're 8000 04:42:45,811 --> 04:42:46,477 the landlord or the tenant, but 8001 04:42:46,477 --> 04:42:47,146 I just think this is a 8002 04:42:47,146 --> 04:42:50,146 conversation that we need to 8003 04:42:51,350 --> 04:42:54,920 have and that we must have. 8004 04:42:54,920 --> 04:42:55,720 Also I do want to say and one 8005 04:42:55,720 --> 04:42:59,320 thing that I do find very 8006 04:43:00,426 --> 04:43:01,160 troubling is that for quite 8007 04:43:01,160 --> 04:43:05,360 some time the city of San Diego 8008 04:43:06,197 --> 04:43:06,899 has been spending about $100 8009 04:43:06,899 --> 04:43:10,499 million on an annual basis in 8010 04:43:10,869 --> 04:43:11,303 regards to our homelessness 8011 04:43:11,303 --> 04:43:13,303 efforts. 8012 04:43:16,342 --> 04:43:16,909 And to this day with that type 8013 04:43:16,909 --> 04:43:19,309 of expenditure we are 8014 04:43:21,547 --> 04:43:22,347 continuing to see more families 8015 04:43:22,347 --> 04:43:24,347 ,more individuals entering 8016 04:43:26,886 --> 04:43:27,219 homelessness than staying 8017 04:43:27,219 --> 04:43:29,219 housed. 8018 04:43:32,258 --> 04:43:33,325 And that's concerning. 8019 04:43:33,325 --> 04:43:37,525 And as we talk about cost of 8020 04:43:37,663 --> 04:43:38,363 living, I think we can all 8021 04:43:38,363 --> 04:43:41,963 agree that cost of living when 8022 04:43:42,601 --> 04:43:43,235 you ask a family, when you ask 8023 04:43:43,235 --> 04:43:46,235 a typical resident cost of 8024 04:43:47,907 --> 04:43:48,239 living is a major, major 8025 04:43:48,239 --> 04:43:48,941 concern. 8026 04:43:48,941 --> 04:43:51,941 And so these are conversations 8027 04:43:52,712 --> 04:43:53,145 that are difficult 8028 04:43:53,145 --> 04:43:53,846 conversations. 8029 04:43:53,846 --> 04:43:54,346 These are conversations that I 8030 04:43:54,346 --> 04:43:54,847 feel are important 8031 04:43:54,847 --> 04:43:56,847 conversations that 8032 04:44:02,622 --> 04:44:05,220 conversations we must have. 8033 04:44:06,192 --> 04:44:07,930 And I have lived in district 8034 04:44:07,930 --> 04:44:07,393 for four for the majority of my 8035 04:44:07,393 --> 04:44:09,393 life. 8036 04:44:11,631 --> 04:44:12,331 And there were just recently 8037 04:44:12,331 --> 04:44:13,990 some new units that were 8038 04:44:13,990 --> 04:44:15,268 brought online that were ready 8039 04:44:15,268 --> 04:44:17,668 that are right around 8040 04:44:21,207 --> 04:44:22,175 the corner from my house. 8041 04:44:22,175 --> 04:44:25,478 And these are brand new units 8042 04:44:25,478 --> 04:44:26,111 and they are two and three 8043 04:44:26,111 --> 04:44:29,111 bedroom units but they are 8044 04:44:29,315 --> 04:44:32,315 going for about $3,600 a month. 8045 04:44:35,120 --> 04:44:35,788 And part of the fees that are 8046 04:44:35,788 --> 04:44:38,788 included are pet fees, trash 8047 04:44:40,426 --> 04:44:41,940 pickup, These parking for 8048 04:44:41,940 --> 04:44:44,940 storage fees that are saying 8049 04:44:44,162 --> 04:44:44,797 that, you know, rent can go as 8050 04:44:44,797 --> 04:44:47,197 high as $3,900 a month. 8051 04:44:50,570 --> 04:44:51,371 And so I understand and I can 8052 04:44:51,371 --> 04:44:54,507 tell you when that I built 8053 04:44:54,507 --> 04:44:58,107 units and I understand there is 8054 04:45:00,780 --> 04:45:01,581 a cost to design construct and 8055 04:45:01,581 --> 04:45:03,981 to design and construct 8056 04:45:06,386 --> 04:45:07,186 the units. 8057 04:45:07,186 --> 04:45:07,954 And I also understand that 8058 04:45:07,954 --> 04:45:10,954 there's a cost in managing 8059 04:45:12,559 --> 04:45:13,493 the properties. 8060 04:45:13,493 --> 04:45:14,193 And I think one of the examples 8061 04:45:14,193 --> 04:45:18,363 and I think one of the public 8062 04:45:18,363 --> 04:45:19,164 speakers brought up is about 8063 04:45:19,164 --> 04:45:19,499 pet areas and how that is 8064 04:45:19,499 --> 04:45:20,233 handled. 8065 04:45:20,233 --> 04:45:23,233 I personally worked on a 8066 04:45:25,338 --> 04:45:26,720 project where there were 8067 04:45:26,720 --> 04:45:28,472 specific provisions provided in 8068 04:45:31,311 --> 04:45:31,978 the project for pet areas and 8069 04:45:31,978 --> 04:45:32,679 those do require maintenance 8070 04:45:32,679 --> 04:45:36,279 but those are amenities that I 8071 04:45:36,850 --> 04:45:37,183 think communities want and 8072 04:45:37,183 --> 04:45:37,917 deserve. 8073 04:45:37,917 --> 04:45:42,117 And so I think there needs to 8074 04:45:42,822 --> 04:45:43,423 be there does need to be some 8075 04:45:43,423 --> 04:45:45,423 additional conversation. 8076 04:45:47,927 --> 04:45:48,827 Also I did make a commitment 8077 04:45:48,827 --> 04:45:49,796 that my daughter that I will go 8078 04:45:49,796 --> 04:45:54,401 out and as we are here for this 8079 04:45:54,401 --> 04:45:55,101 informational item but I will 8080 04:45:55,101 --> 04:45:57,501 be meeting with stakeholders. 8081 04:45:59,806 --> 04:46:00,307 I will be meeting with folks 8082 04:46:00,307 --> 04:46:01,174 that are renters. 8083 04:46:01,174 --> 04:46:04,774 And I will be meeting with 8084 04:46:06,179 --> 04:46:06,846 industry because this is 8085 04:46:06,846 --> 04:46:07,580 something that I think is a 8086 04:46:07,580 --> 04:46:07,881 conversation that needs to take 8087 04:46:07,881 --> 04:46:09,881 place. 8088 04:46:12,252 --> 04:46:13,190 And I would like to think that 8089 04:46:13,190 --> 04:46:17,819 as we look at the city of San 8090 04:46:18,324 --> 04:46:18,992 Diego as a whole that we can 8091 04:46:18,992 --> 04:46:19,426 all come to the table and do 8092 04:46:19,426 --> 04:46:21,426 what's right. 8093 04:46:23,663 --> 04:46:24,431 And so I say all that to say 8094 04:46:24,431 --> 04:46:25,980 that I do appreciate all of 8095 04:46:25,980 --> 04:46:25,532 the work that has gone into 8096 04:46:25,532 --> 04:46:27,532 this to date. 8097 04:46:30,437 --> 04:46:31,137 And I continue to look forward 8098 04:46:31,137 --> 04:46:31,471 to the discussion as we move 8099 04:46:31,471 --> 04:46:33,471 forward. 8100 04:46:35,876 --> 04:46:38,876 Very interesting to hear from 8101 04:46:41,515 --> 04:46:42,182 my colleagues as as I would 8102 04:46:42,182 --> 04:46:45,182 like to hear their positions 8103 04:46:48,521 --> 04:46:49,356 And as you know with the Brown 8104 04:46:49,356 --> 04:46:50,900 Act it does allow us to to to 8105 04:46:50,900 --> 04:46:53,900 have that type of conversation. 8106 04:46:54,940 --> 04:46:54,661 So I'm eager to to hear my 8107 04:46:54,661 --> 04:46:55,362 colleague's comments. 8108 04:46:55,362 --> 04:46:58,962 And I'm also eager to continue 8109 04:47:00,167 --> 04:47:00,834 to roll our sleeves up and to 8110 04:47:00,834 --> 04:47:04,434 bring a product that I hope 8111 04:47:05,672 --> 04:47:06,340 gets us to where we need to be 8112 04:47:06,340 --> 04:47:07,140 so that as we talk about 8113 04:47:07,140 --> 04:47:10,140 housing, as we talk about 8114 04:47:12,279 --> 04:47:13,130 housing being a fundamental 8115 04:47:13,130 --> 04:47:17,213 right which is a belief that I 8116 04:47:18,552 --> 04:47:19,152 do sharing because I truly do 8117 04:47:19,152 --> 04:47:21,552 feel every family, every 8118 04:47:23,991 --> 04:47:24,758 person, every young person 8119 04:47:24,758 --> 04:47:25,625 should have a place that they 8120 04:47:25,625 --> 04:47:29,825 call home that is safe, that is 8121 04:47:30,998 --> 04:47:33,998 well maintained and and based 8122 04:47:36,936 --> 04:47:37,471 on certain calls that I receive 8123 04:47:37,471 --> 04:47:38,572 on a regular basis. 8124 04:47:38,572 --> 04:47:43,430 There is a lot of work to do 8125 04:47:43,430 --> 04:47:43,677 and one thing that does make 8126 04:47:43,677 --> 04:47:44,378 this a very difficult and 8127 04:47:44,378 --> 04:47:46,778 challenging conversation and I 8128 04:47:48,649 --> 04:47:49,316 think some of the public 8129 04:47:49,316 --> 04:47:49,850 commenters touched upon this 8130 04:47:49,850 --> 04:47:51,850 quite frequently are 8131 04:47:54,187 --> 04:47:56,587 the various complexities and 8132 04:48:00,894 --> 04:48:01,595 different types of of units 8133 04:48:01,595 --> 04:48:05,195 that we have in place because 8134 04:48:06,000 --> 04:48:06,467 we have everyone at different 8135 04:48:06,467 --> 04:48:07,167 economic levels. 8136 04:48:07,167 --> 04:48:09,567 Some folks like certain 8137 04:48:13,474 --> 04:48:14,441 amenities and some don't. 8138 04:48:14,441 --> 04:48:18,879 You know so I think all of that 8139 04:48:18,879 --> 04:48:19,313 needs to be further looked at 8140 04:48:19,313 --> 04:48:20,147 and discussed. 8141 04:48:20,147 --> 04:48:23,747 And I look forward to to 8142 04:48:24,785 --> 04:48:25,519 the conversations to come as we 8143 04:48:25,519 --> 04:48:25,885 prepare to move this forward in 8144 04:48:25,885 --> 04:48:27,885 the fall. 8145 04:48:30,858 --> 04:48:31,592 So with that council PRESIDENT 8146 04:48:31,592 --> 04:48:32,193 That will conclude my comments. 8147 04:48:32,193 --> 04:48:32,793 And again thank you for 8148 04:48:32,793 --> 04:48:35,193 everyone that came out. 8149 04:48:36,497 --> 04:48:36,997 And thank you to my colleagues 8150 04:48:36,997 --> 04:48:37,398 and thank you. 8151 04:48:37,398 --> 04:48:37,764 All right. 8152 04:48:37,764 --> 04:48:38,265 Thank you. 8153 04:48:38,265 --> 04:48:39,100 COUNCILMAN Foster. 8154 04:48:39,100 --> 04:48:42,360 We'll go next to council member 8155 04:48:42,360 --> 04:48:42,903 Campbell. 8156 04:48:42,903 --> 04:48:43,704 >> Thank you so much Council 8157 04:48:43,704 --> 04:48:46,704 PRESIDENT And thank you to 8158 04:48:49,243 --> 04:48:49,944 council Councilmember Foster 8159 04:48:49,944 --> 04:48:50,611 for your comments as well as 8160 04:48:50,611 --> 04:48:52,611 Councilmember Sheila Rivera. 8161 04:48:55,850 --> 04:48:56,517 It's been really revealing to 8162 04:48:56,517 --> 04:48:57,217 hear all the horrible things 8163 04:48:57,217 --> 04:49:00,817 that so many people have been 8164 04:49:01,255 --> 04:49:01,922 through and so many people have 8165 04:49:01,922 --> 04:49:02,556 had advantage taken of them. 8166 04:49:02,556 --> 04:49:02,857 I'm so sorry to hear about 8167 04:49:02,857 --> 04:49:04,857 that. 8168 04:49:07,261 --> 04:49:07,962 I really I really think that we 8169 04:49:07,962 --> 04:49:11,562 need to to look at this 8170 04:49:12,766 --> 04:49:13,534 sometimes from high up and 8171 04:49:13,534 --> 04:49:14,235 realize that there are two big 8172 04:49:14,235 --> 04:49:14,535 things causing what's going on 8173 04:49:14,535 --> 04:49:15,169 here. 8174 04:49:15,169 --> 04:49:18,169 First of all, there's not 8175 04:49:19,206 --> 04:49:19,673 enough supply for the demand of 8176 04:49:19,673 --> 04:49:20,374 rental housing. 8177 04:49:20,374 --> 04:49:20,708 So that that's the number one 8178 04:49:20,708 --> 04:49:22,708 problem. 8179 04:49:25,313 --> 04:49:25,846 We need more supply so that we 8180 04:49:25,846 --> 04:49:26,547 can meet the demand. 8181 04:49:26,547 --> 04:49:29,547 Number two, there's a problem 8182 04:49:30,818 --> 04:49:31,519 because the state legislature 8183 04:49:31,519 --> 04:49:34,519 her favorite friend put in 8184 04:49:37,458 --> 04:49:38,126 the 10% cap on rent raises just 8185 04:49:38,126 --> 04:49:38,893 a couple of years back. 8186 04:49:38,893 --> 04:49:42,290 And the reason they did this 8187 04:49:42,290 --> 04:49:42,663 was it was going to be 5% 8188 04:49:42,663 --> 04:49:42,963 allowed per year for rent 8189 04:49:42,963 --> 04:49:44,963 raise. 8190 04:49:48,200 --> 04:49:48,970 And then the other the other 8191 04:49:48,970 --> 04:49:49,504 limit up to 10% had to do with 8192 04:49:49,504 --> 04:49:50,238 the inflation rate. 8193 04:49:50,238 --> 04:49:53,838 So for last year I believe 8194 04:49:53,908 --> 04:49:54,509 the amount the state would have 8195 04:49:54,509 --> 04:49:55,209 allowed would have been 8196 04:49:55,209 --> 04:49:58,209 something like 8.3% of a raise 8197 04:50:00,582 --> 04:50:01,416 in rent. 8198 04:50:01,416 --> 04:50:02,150 And you know that can be a 8199 04:50:02,150 --> 04:50:02,583 pretty high raise in rent for a 8200 04:50:02,583 --> 04:50:04,583 lot of people. 8201 04:50:06,354 --> 04:50:06,721 So that's that's tough in and 8202 04:50:06,721 --> 04:50:07,388 of itself. 8203 04:50:07,388 --> 04:50:10,388 However, costs have gone up 8204 04:50:11,493 --> 04:50:14,493 gone up so dramatically that 8205 04:50:17,232 --> 04:50:18,990 these these landlords MAY have 8206 04:50:18,990 --> 04:50:18,799 put in fees as a way to get 8207 04:50:18,799 --> 04:50:22,399 around having to take a loss 8208 04:50:23,972 --> 04:50:24,639 because they needed they 8209 04:50:24,639 --> 04:50:25,306 thought they needed some of 8210 04:50:25,306 --> 04:50:26,400 them MAY just be greedy but 8211 04:50:26,400 --> 04:50:29,400 they thought they needed more 8212 04:50:30,578 --> 04:50:34,778 than cap of the 3% in order to 8213 04:50:35,383 --> 04:50:35,950 not take a loss on the amount 8214 04:50:35,950 --> 04:50:36,551 of rent they received. 8215 04:50:36,551 --> 04:50:37,418 So they're in business. 8216 04:50:37,418 --> 04:50:41,180 They can't take a loss or 8217 04:50:41,856 --> 04:50:42,723 they'll go out of business. 8218 04:50:42,723 --> 04:50:43,123 So it's a really it's a double 8219 04:50:43,123 --> 04:50:45,123 edged sword. 8220 04:50:46,661 --> 04:50:47,262 They've got two things against 8221 04:50:47,262 --> 04:50:49,662 them supply and demand. 8222 04:50:52,734 --> 04:50:53,435 Demand is high, supply is low 8223 04:50:53,435 --> 04:50:54,169 so they can kind of look 8224 04:50:54,169 --> 04:50:57,769 the other way around since more 8225 04:50:58,273 --> 04:50:58,940 people want to rent from them. 8226 04:50:58,940 --> 04:50:59,808 They have spaces to rent. 8227 04:50:59,808 --> 04:51:03,408 And number two, the state has 8228 04:51:03,745 --> 04:51:04,445 imposed a limit on them that 8229 04:51:04,445 --> 04:51:06,845 does not necessarily represent 8230 04:51:09,818 --> 04:51:10,518 a free market type of a 8231 04:51:10,518 --> 04:51:12,918 situation for business people. 8232 04:51:16,570 --> 04:51:16,758 So it's a really it's it's a 8233 04:51:16,758 --> 04:51:17,425 tough situation going out from 8234 04:51:17,425 --> 04:51:21,250 the side of each each party 8235 04:51:22,330 --> 04:51:22,731 involved The landlord and 8236 04:51:22,731 --> 04:51:23,131 the renter. 8237 04:51:23,131 --> 04:51:23,865 It's tough. 8238 04:51:23,865 --> 04:51:26,265 I'm particularly concerned that 8239 04:51:27,569 --> 04:51:28,236 more regulations as some have 8240 04:51:28,236 --> 04:51:28,970 said today will continue to 8241 04:51:28,970 --> 04:51:30,970 disproportionately affect small 8242 04:51:33,575 --> 04:51:34,176 mom and pop housing providers. 8243 04:51:34,176 --> 04:51:37,176 They are still the vast 8244 04:51:39,381 --> 04:51:40,150 majority of those in San Diego 8245 04:51:40,150 --> 04:51:40,549 who provide rental units. 8246 04:51:40,549 --> 04:51:42,549 And these suggested 8247 04:51:44,885 --> 04:51:45,486 requirements will put an undue 8248 04:51:45,486 --> 04:51:45,886 burden on their small 8249 04:51:45,886 --> 04:51:46,588 businesses. 8250 04:51:46,588 --> 04:51:50,188 i doubt that these rules would 8251 04:51:50,725 --> 04:51:51,426 hurt corporate landlords who've 8252 04:51:51,426 --> 04:51:52,194 been trying to increase their 8253 04:51:52,194 --> 04:51:56,394 share of our market Here in San 8254 04:51:57,466 --> 04:51:58,133 Diego corporate landlords have 8255 04:51:58,133 --> 04:51:58,867 employees and bandwidth and 8256 04:51:58,867 --> 04:52:01,867 they can meet requirements like 8257 04:52:03,672 --> 04:52:04,373 this but small landlords cannot 8258 04:52:04,373 --> 04:52:07,973 and MAY be forced out of 8259 04:52:09,770 --> 04:52:09,745 business as many have left This 8260 04:52:09,745 --> 04:52:10,445 business with the previous 8261 04:52:10,445 --> 04:52:13,445 regulations that were put into 8262 04:52:15,751 --> 04:52:16,351 effect to to help protect 8263 04:52:16,351 --> 04:52:18,351 renters from evictions. 8264 04:52:21,790 --> 04:52:22,491 And that's a shame because 8265 04:52:22,491 --> 04:52:26,910 people do need to be prevented 8266 04:52:27,295 --> 04:52:28,163 from unnecessary evictions. 8267 04:52:28,163 --> 04:52:28,797 But the best way to ensure that 8268 04:52:28,797 --> 04:52:31,797 people have and remain in 8269 04:52:32,901 --> 04:52:33,468 housing is to build more of it. 8270 04:52:33,468 --> 04:52:34,169 We need more housing. 8271 04:52:34,169 --> 04:52:37,169 We need increasing supply so 8272 04:52:39,141 --> 04:52:39,808 that renters can have an ample 8273 04:52:39,808 --> 04:52:40,542 choice of where they should 8274 04:52:40,542 --> 04:52:41,143 live and can choose Among these 8275 04:52:41,143 --> 04:52:44,743 I used to be a landlord. 8276 04:52:44,913 --> 04:52:49,113 I just had one condo that I 8277 04:52:49,551 --> 04:52:50,319 rented out and this was 15 8278 04:52:50,319 --> 04:52:50,619 years ago so it wasn't that 8279 04:52:50,619 --> 04:52:51,320 long. 8280 04:52:51,320 --> 04:52:55,324 It was more like ten years ago 8281 04:52:55,324 --> 04:52:56,124 but it wasn't that long ago But 8282 04:52:56,124 --> 04:52:56,792 it was long enough ago that 8283 04:52:56,792 --> 04:52:59,662 these new fees are different 8284 04:52:59,662 --> 04:52:59,962 than what we had back ten 8285 04:52:59,962 --> 04:53:00,696 years. 8286 04:53:00,696 --> 04:53:01,229 I would never think of charging 8287 04:53:01,229 --> 04:53:03,229 an application fee. 8288 04:53:06,401 --> 04:53:07,690 The fact that I would have to 8289 04:53:07,690 --> 04:53:07,969 do a background check on who 8290 04:53:07,969 --> 04:53:11,569 wanted to rent that was my 8291 04:53:12,208 --> 04:53:13,750 problem. 8292 04:53:13,750 --> 04:53:13,742 That was something I paid for 8293 04:53:13,742 --> 04:53:17,913 as a landlord as part of my 8294 04:53:17,913 --> 04:53:18,314 business cost That was included 8295 04:53:18,314 --> 04:53:18,981 in the rent. 8296 04:53:18,981 --> 04:53:21,981 That's how business is done. 8297 04:53:24,860 --> 04:53:24,653 You put the cost the product 8298 04:53:24,653 --> 04:53:25,354 into what you charge 8299 04:53:25,354 --> 04:53:28,954 the consumer and you try to 8300 04:53:30,359 --> 04:53:30,960 make ends meet. 8301 04:53:30,960 --> 04:53:32,960 Well unfortunately with 8302 04:53:36,310 --> 04:53:36,832 the lack of supply and with 8303 04:53:36,832 --> 04:53:39,832 the 10% limit put on by 8304 04:53:41,637 --> 04:53:42,371 the state or 8.3% last year, 8305 04:53:42,371 --> 04:53:43,400 you run into problems because 8306 04:53:43,400 --> 04:53:46,400 this is just not working. 8307 04:53:47,910 --> 04:53:48,744 What would really solve it? 8308 04:53:48,744 --> 04:53:49,444 We really need to get busy and 8309 04:53:49,444 --> 04:53:49,745 build more housing, that's for 8310 04:53:49,745 --> 04:53:51,745 sure. 8311 04:53:54,617 --> 04:53:55,351 And the other thing is some 8312 04:53:55,351 --> 04:53:55,651 people MAY have to go somewhere 8313 04:53:55,651 --> 04:53:57,651 else. 8314 04:54:00,623 --> 04:54:01,357 My own grandson had to he went 8315 04:54:01,357 --> 04:54:02,910 around the country, worked from 8316 04:54:02,910 --> 04:54:06,620 home So he and his wife went 8317 04:54:06,620 --> 04:54:06,762 around the country looking at 8318 04:54:06,762 --> 04:54:07,396 different cities to see where 8319 04:54:07,396 --> 04:54:07,697 they could afford to buy a 8320 04:54:07,697 --> 04:54:09,697 house. 8321 04:54:11,233 --> 04:54:11,934 And they ended up in Richmond, 8322 04:54:11,934 --> 04:54:14,934 Virginia far away from grandma 8323 04:54:17,940 --> 04:54:18,741 which I didn't like but they 8324 04:54:18,741 --> 04:54:22,440 could afford a house there for 8325 04:54:22,440 --> 04:54:22,545 $600,000 That here would have 8326 04:54:22,545 --> 04:54:23,312 been $1.6 million. 8327 04:54:23,312 --> 04:54:26,312 And so I understand completely 8328 04:54:28,683 --> 04:54:29,184 their desire to do that. 8329 04:54:29,184 --> 04:54:29,585 So it's tough. 8330 04:54:29,585 --> 04:54:30,186 It's tough. 8331 04:54:30,186 --> 04:54:32,586 It's a bad situation. 8332 04:54:35,224 --> 04:54:35,958 I can see all sides of it And I 8333 04:54:35,958 --> 04:54:38,958 just feel terrible about people 8334 04:54:40,329 --> 04:54:41,300 who don't understand when they 8335 04:54:41,300 --> 04:54:41,898 move in that they're going to 8336 04:54:41,898 --> 04:54:45,498 have these fees applied to them 8337 04:54:46,335 --> 04:54:46,669 and I don't think that's fair 8338 04:54:46,669 --> 04:54:47,203 either. 8339 04:54:47,203 --> 04:54:49,603 This should be total 8340 04:54:52,308 --> 04:54:53,420 transparency and the people who 8341 04:54:53,420 --> 04:54:53,709 are renting out units should be 8342 04:54:53,709 --> 04:54:54,377 able to charge what it takes 8343 04:54:54,377 --> 04:54:57,977 for them to make ends meet. 8344 04:54:58,481 --> 04:54:59,148 And so we've got this conundrum 8345 04:54:59,148 --> 04:55:02,148 going on and it's difficult 8346 04:55:04,540 --> 04:55:04,754 it's difficult to solve But I 8347 04:55:04,754 --> 04:55:05,321 think solving it by putting on 8348 04:55:05,321 --> 04:55:07,321 heavy restrictions and 8349 04:55:09,759 --> 04:55:10,426 regulations makes it harder for 8350 04:55:10,426 --> 04:55:11,270 the smaller landlords to be 8351 04:55:11,270 --> 04:55:13,427 able to provide housing. 8352 04:55:15,864 --> 04:55:16,533 I do see some good things in 8353 04:55:16,533 --> 04:55:17,200 this that I would approve of 8354 04:55:17,200 --> 04:55:20,803 and I see some others that I 8355 04:55:20,803 --> 04:55:21,238 wouldn't But I want to take 8356 04:55:21,238 --> 04:55:22,380 that offline. 8357 04:55:22,380 --> 04:55:22,939 I'd be happy to meet with my 8358 04:55:22,939 --> 04:55:26,539 colleagues who are in favor of 8359 04:55:27,744 --> 04:55:28,411 this to discuss the details of 8360 04:55:28,411 --> 04:55:29,111 which ones I would favor and 8361 04:55:29,111 --> 04:55:32,711 which ones I don't think will 8362 04:55:32,949 --> 04:55:33,817 work out right. 8363 04:55:33,817 --> 04:55:34,551 But I just feel really bad that 8364 04:55:34,551 --> 04:55:38,151 this has become such a problem. 8365 04:55:39,689 --> 04:55:40,390 It's not fair to the renter and 8366 04:55:40,390 --> 04:55:40,990 it's not fair to the landlord. 8367 04:55:40,990 --> 04:55:41,357 So thank you very much. 8368 04:55:41,357 --> 04:55:43,357 Thank you. 8369 04:55:46,496 --> 04:55:46,896 Council PRESIDENT. 8370 04:55:46,896 --> 04:55:47,296 All right. 8371 04:55:47,296 --> 04:55:48,310 Thank you. 8372 04:55:48,310 --> 04:55:48,731 Council member Campbell will go 8373 04:55:48,731 --> 04:55:49,465 next to council member Camejo 8374 04:55:49,465 --> 04:55:50,660 Thank you Council PRESIDENT And 8375 04:55:50,660 --> 04:55:51,835 thank you to members of 8376 04:55:51,835 --> 04:55:52,502 the public for their input 8377 04:55:52,502 --> 04:55:53,202 today and the District nine 8378 04:55:53,202 --> 04:55:53,937 staff for their work on this. 8379 04:55:53,937 --> 04:55:56,937 I appreciate the opportunity to 8380 04:55:57,807 --> 04:55:58,508 provide this feedback at this 8381 04:55:58,508 --> 04:55:59,208 early period and consider how 8382 04:55:59,208 --> 04:55:59,576 the audience audience works in 8383 04:55:59,576 --> 04:56:01,576 practice. 8384 04:56:03,790 --> 04:56:03,813 The policy proposal here has 8385 04:56:03,813 --> 04:56:04,414 two different segments and I'll 8386 04:56:04,414 --> 04:56:05,115 address them separately. 8387 04:56:05,115 --> 04:56:05,682 There's the cost transparency 8388 04:56:05,682 --> 04:56:08,820 concepts and the price 8389 04:56:09,686 --> 04:56:10,453 regulation aspects. 8390 04:56:10,453 --> 04:56:11,154 And so starting first with 8391 04:56:11,154 --> 04:56:14,154 the cost transparency the idea 8392 04:56:15,325 --> 04:56:16,920 that everyone should know what 8393 04:56:16,920 --> 04:56:16,826 their housing will cost all in 8394 04:56:16,826 --> 04:56:19,826 indisputable in every line item 8395 04:56:20,931 --> 04:56:21,731 as well That's common sense. 8396 04:56:21,731 --> 04:56:22,399 That information is critical to 8397 04:56:22,399 --> 04:56:23,133 families in the city who are 8398 04:56:23,133 --> 04:56:23,500 already stretching every dollar 8399 04:56:23,500 --> 04:56:25,500 they have. 8400 04:56:27,504 --> 04:56:28,238 They're calculating the cost of 8401 04:56:28,238 --> 04:56:28,972 groceries and gas and childcare 8402 04:56:28,972 --> 04:56:29,673 and insurance and utilities and 8403 04:56:29,673 --> 04:56:30,340 health care down to the penny 8404 04:56:30,340 --> 04:56:33,340 at this point and unexpected 8405 04:56:33,677 --> 04:56:34,210 fees can absolutely destabilize 8406 04:56:34,210 --> 04:56:34,878 a household budget. 8407 04:56:34,878 --> 04:56:37,878 We've heard from people talk 8408 04:56:39,816 --> 04:56:40,450 about that destabilization and 8409 04:56:40,450 --> 04:56:41,151 I appreciate the intent of 8410 04:56:41,151 --> 04:56:41,784 trying to address that problem 8411 04:56:41,784 --> 04:56:43,986 and solving that problem. 8412 04:56:43,986 --> 04:56:44,654 Housing should be affordable 8413 04:56:44,654 --> 04:56:45,188 and no one should have to 8414 04:56:45,188 --> 04:56:45,922 choose between those 8415 04:56:45,922 --> 04:56:46,490 fundamentals in order to simply 8416 04:56:46,490 --> 04:56:49,490 exist in San Diego And 8417 04:56:49,960 --> 04:56:50,393 the transparency aspects 8418 04:56:50,393 --> 04:56:51,610 protect that. 8419 04:56:51,610 --> 04:56:51,695 The affordability concept of 8420 04:56:51,695 --> 04:56:52,295 course is fundamentally a 8421 04:56:52,295 --> 04:56:55,295 question of the cost of 8422 04:56:56,500 --> 04:56:57,340 something and the ability for a 8423 04:56:57,340 --> 04:56:57,734 person to obtain it. 8424 04:56:57,734 --> 04:56:58,435 Which brings me to the second 8425 04:56:58,435 --> 04:57:01,435 component which is the pricing 8426 04:57:02,139 --> 04:57:02,773 regulations, the costs can be 8427 04:57:02,773 --> 04:57:03,440 absorbed by a business or 8428 04:57:03,440 --> 04:57:04,740 the financing used to obtain 8429 04:57:04,740 --> 04:57:07,740 the property or some other 8430 04:57:08,110 --> 04:57:08,711 component involved in a 8431 04:57:08,711 --> 04:57:09,379 transaction And the government 8432 04:57:09,379 --> 04:57:10,800 can incentivize the private 8433 04:57:10,800 --> 04:57:13,584 sector to absorb that cost by 8434 04:57:13,584 --> 04:57:14,351 making something that we have 8435 04:57:14,351 --> 04:57:15,520 on our end less expensive or we 8436 04:57:15,520 --> 04:57:18,520 can subsidize it by providing 8437 04:57:19,220 --> 04:57:19,856 funding for it. 8438 04:57:19,856 --> 04:57:20,557 But when we ban collection of a 8439 04:57:20,557 --> 04:57:21,910 particular cost that cost does 8440 04:57:21,910 --> 04:57:23,491 not simply go away. 8441 04:57:25,562 --> 04:57:26,263 It moves, it ships, it still 8442 04:57:26,263 --> 04:57:29,863 exists And in order to support 8443 04:57:30,601 --> 04:57:31,301 a policy that's intended to 8444 04:57:31,301 --> 04:57:32,350 create affordability, I would 8445 04:57:32,350 --> 04:57:32,736 like to know exactly where that 8446 04:57:32,736 --> 04:57:36,336 cost moves and how it impacts 8447 04:57:37,474 --> 04:57:38,108 San Diego as including those 8448 04:57:38,108 --> 04:57:38,742 who currently are covering 8449 04:57:38,742 --> 04:57:39,375 the cost that talked about 8450 04:57:39,375 --> 04:57:42,375 the burden they are facing 8451 04:57:42,746 --> 04:57:43,313 paying for those today but also 8452 04:57:43,313 --> 04:57:43,880 those who are covering 8453 04:57:43,880 --> 04:57:45,880 different costs within 8454 04:57:48,652 --> 04:57:49,520 the ecosystem. 8455 04:57:49,520 --> 04:57:50,220 >> Yes, in a perfect world 8456 04:57:50,220 --> 04:57:50,887 housing providers would simply 8457 04:57:50,887 --> 04:57:53,887 absorb every new cost that's 8458 04:57:54,958 --> 04:57:55,659 imposed on them. 8459 04:57:55,659 --> 04:57:56,260 But that's not how the market 8460 04:57:56,260 --> 04:57:56,693 functions. 8461 04:57:56,693 --> 04:57:57,610 That's not how the homes are 8462 04:57:57,610 --> 04:57:57,794 financed. 8463 04:57:57,794 --> 04:58:01,265 And we have to acknowledge when 8464 04:58:01,265 --> 04:58:01,965 proposing policies and tending 8465 04:58:01,965 --> 04:58:02,466 to support renters that that's 8466 04:58:02,466 --> 04:58:03,133 not how it works. 8467 04:58:03,133 --> 04:58:06,270 And as much as this aims to 8468 04:58:06,270 --> 04:58:06,904 target and prohibit unfair 8469 04:58:06,904 --> 04:58:07,603 business practices, I have 8470 04:58:07,603 --> 04:58:08,272 questions about the affordable 8471 04:58:08,272 --> 04:58:10,672 issues related to affordable 8472 04:58:12,309 --> 04:58:12,943 housing and homes that are 8473 04:58:12,943 --> 04:58:13,644 naturally affordable too. 8474 04:58:13,644 --> 04:58:14,311 And so I'm just going to jump 8475 04:58:14,311 --> 04:58:17,311 into some questions at this 8476 04:58:18,382 --> 04:58:19,150 point for staff on issues of 8477 04:58:19,150 --> 04:58:19,717 addressing affordability, 8478 04:58:19,717 --> 04:58:20,451 The staff report mentions that 8479 04:58:20,451 --> 04:58:24,521 this is modeled off a few other 8480 04:58:24,521 --> 04:58:25,189 jurisdictions was pointed out 8481 04:58:25,189 --> 04:58:25,923 in the presentation as well. 8482 04:58:25,923 --> 04:58:29,523 I'm curious to know the impacts 8483 04:58:30,261 --> 04:58:30,927 and what we've seen in other 8484 04:58:30,927 --> 04:58:31,629 jurisdictions, other cities 8485 04:58:31,629 --> 04:58:32,263 specifically when it comes to 8486 04:58:32,263 --> 04:58:34,263 prohibiting specific fees. 8487 04:58:35,499 --> 04:58:36,200 What have we seen when it's 8488 04:58:36,200 --> 04:58:36,901 when other cities are getting 8489 04:58:36,901 --> 04:58:40,501 rid of fees if they've gotten 8490 04:58:41,710 --> 04:58:41,939 rid of pet fees, pet rent and 8491 04:58:41,939 --> 04:58:45,539 how that impacted base rents as 8492 04:58:47,711 --> 04:58:48,379 a result? 8493 04:58:48,379 --> 04:58:49,130 Thank you for the question, 8494 04:58:49,130 --> 04:58:51,413 Councilmember Campo In my 8495 04:58:53,718 --> 04:58:54,284 research one of the more 8496 04:58:54,284 --> 04:58:54,985 prominent examples of 8497 04:58:54,985 --> 04:58:58,585 the prohibition of pet fees is 8498 04:58:59,756 --> 04:59:02,756 in Colorado research there I 8499 04:59:05,128 --> 04:59:05,796 was provided by the aspca. 8500 04:59:05,796 --> 04:59:06,363 The researchers in my 8501 04:59:06,363 --> 04:59:08,363 presentation didn't go 8502 04:59:11,502 --> 04:59:12,203 specifically to what you were 8503 04:59:12,203 --> 04:59:12,603 alluding to where the cost MAY 8504 04:59:12,603 --> 04:59:13,304 have moved. 8505 04:59:13,304 --> 04:59:16,904 I think that's a bit difficult 8506 04:59:17,108 --> 04:59:17,975 to to track But what I did go 8507 04:59:17,975 --> 04:59:21,575 over is the availability of pet 8508 04:59:22,880 --> 04:59:23,413 friendly units in which there 8509 04:59:23,413 --> 04:59:23,981 was no attributable 8510 04:59:23,981 --> 04:59:25,981 attributable change to 8511 04:59:29,120 --> 04:59:32,120 the availability of those units 8512 04:59:34,859 --> 04:59:35,393 Once the policy was enacted. 8513 04:59:35,393 --> 04:59:37,393 >> Excellent. 8514 04:59:40,798 --> 04:59:41,498 Well one where they enacted it 8515 04:59:41,498 --> 04:59:41,966 was that statewide or was that 8516 04:59:41,966 --> 04:59:42,633 municipalities? 8517 04:59:42,633 --> 04:59:46,233 It was a state of Colorado. 8518 04:59:46,771 --> 04:59:48,771 Okay. 8519 04:59:58,783 --> 05:00:02,383 I would have to find it. 8520 05:00:03,654 --> 05:00:04,355 So on my PowerPoint one of 8521 05:00:04,355 --> 05:00:05,890 the slides says the number of 8522 05:00:05,890 --> 05:00:07,489 available allowed between units 8523 05:00:08,726 --> 05:00:09,427 on a permanent account between 8524 05:00:09,427 --> 05:00:10,228 the summer of 2023 and fall 8525 05:00:10,228 --> 05:00:12,628 2024 and the Associated bill 8526 05:00:15,700 --> 05:00:16,467 was Colorado House Bill 1068. 8527 05:00:16,467 --> 05:00:16,867 It went into effect in that 8528 05:00:16,867 --> 05:00:17,235 time frame. 8529 05:00:17,235 --> 05:00:17,535 Excellent. 8530 05:00:17,535 --> 05:00:19,535 Okay. 8531 05:00:20,972 --> 05:00:21,539 Thank you for having me for 8532 05:00:21,539 --> 05:00:22,206 having that available. 8533 05:00:22,206 --> 05:00:22,907 So in the time since that's 8534 05:00:22,907 --> 05:00:25,907 been implemented which just a 8535 05:00:27,178 --> 05:00:27,879 few years is there any evidence 8536 05:00:27,879 --> 05:00:28,646 to show that base rents didn't 8537 05:00:28,646 --> 05:00:31,646 fluctuate as a result of 8538 05:00:33,284 --> 05:00:34,180 the cap that was put in 8539 05:00:34,180 --> 05:00:34,619 Colorado housing supply issues? 8540 05:00:34,619 --> 05:00:37,619 What has been the market 8541 05:00:39,557 --> 05:00:40,324 response in Colorado since that 8542 05:00:40,324 --> 05:00:41,920 time that we can look back and 8543 05:00:41,920 --> 05:00:44,692 say putting in those those caps 8544 05:00:46,970 --> 05:00:47,650 and that was a deposit You said 8545 05:00:47,650 --> 05:00:51,265 it was a deposit cap rate and 8546 05:00:52,270 --> 05:00:52,937 rent cap Be the first sorry do 8547 05:00:52,937 --> 05:00:56,537 we what is the economic data 8548 05:00:57,700 --> 05:00:57,876 showing us about lack or growth 8549 05:00:57,876 --> 05:01:01,476 in housing supply as a result 8550 05:01:03,815 --> 05:01:04,648 base rents going up or down? 8551 05:01:04,648 --> 05:01:05,216 What are we seeing there as a 8552 05:01:05,216 --> 05:01:05,884 result of this policy 8553 05:01:05,884 --> 05:01:08,884 specifically I can look into 8554 05:01:10,721 --> 05:01:11,423 that to confirm with you I need 8555 05:01:11,423 --> 05:01:12,157 to touch back base with aspca 8556 05:01:12,157 --> 05:01:15,560 on the data that they were abl 8557 05:01:15,560 --> 05:01:16,261 to provide for me but I don't 8558 05:01:16,261 --> 05:01:16,561 have all the information on 8559 05:01:16,561 --> 05:01:16,861 that. 8560 05:01:16,861 --> 05:01:17,228 Okay. 8561 05:01:17,228 --> 05:01:17,596 All right. 8562 05:01:17,596 --> 05:01:19,596 Thank you. 8563 05:01:21,700 --> 05:01:22,467 On the definition of particular 8564 05:01:22,467 --> 05:01:23,168 fees I'm seeing in the draft 8565 05:01:23,168 --> 05:01:23,868 that the fee does not include 8566 05:01:23,868 --> 05:01:27,468 rent, the definition of fee is 8567 05:01:27,539 --> 05:01:28,405 not include rent late fees 8568 05:01:28,405 --> 05:01:33,205 which I seem to be a late fee 8569 05:01:33,879 --> 05:01:34,578 related to paying rent after 8570 05:01:34,578 --> 05:01:35,113 e due date security deposits 8571 05:01:35,113 --> 05:01:37,113 and utility charges. 8572 05:01:39,417 --> 05:01:40,840 Does the definition of fee 8573 05:01:40,840 --> 05:01:40,719 include things like parking 8574 05:01:40,719 --> 05:01:43,119 replacement fee related to 8575 05:01:46,157 --> 05:01:46,792 broken items appliances 8576 05:01:46,792 --> 05:01:47,559 fixtures in the apartment? 8577 05:01:47,559 --> 05:01:50,559 >> What does that include That? 8578 05:01:51,830 --> 05:01:52,631 Yes, as it were a fee would 8579 05:01:52,631 --> 05:01:55,631 include any charge outside of 8580 05:01:58,270 --> 05:02:01,870 the listed charges But for a 8581 05:02:03,742 --> 05:02:04,443 definition of fee specifically 8582 05:02:04,443 --> 05:02:04,943 just wanted to just clarify 8583 05:02:04,943 --> 05:02:05,744 please later on in 8584 05:02:05,744 --> 05:02:09,344 the ordinance when we do talk 8585 05:02:09,414 --> 05:02:09,881 about the cap we specify 8586 05:02:09,881 --> 05:02:10,215 recurring fees. 8587 05:02:10,215 --> 05:02:12,215 >> Okay. 8588 05:02:15,287 --> 05:02:16,540 Understood. 8589 05:02:16,540 --> 05:02:16,722 I know that we received a 8590 05:02:16,722 --> 05:02:19,122 question raised by Circulate 8591 05:02:21,159 --> 05:02:21,859 San Diego today about current 8592 05:02:21,859 --> 05:02:22,461 law requiring parking fees to 8593 05:02:22,461 --> 05:02:23,950 be unbundled from rent. 8594 05:02:23,950 --> 05:02:25,495 Can City Attorney's office 8595 05:02:26,898 --> 05:02:27,466 clarify if if the fee 8596 05:02:27,466 --> 05:02:28,100 definition as proposed 8597 05:02:28,100 --> 05:02:30,500 conflicts with that state 8598 05:02:33,171 --> 05:02:33,906 regulation? 8599 05:02:33,906 --> 05:02:34,639 >> Good afternoon Hilda Mendoza 8600 05:02:34,639 --> 05:02:37,639 from the City Attorney's office 8601 05:02:38,510 --> 05:02:39,176 that there is state law 8602 05:02:39,176 --> 05:02:39,912 regarding unbundled parking 8603 05:02:39,912 --> 05:02:40,345 that does not apply to the city 8604 05:02:40,345 --> 05:02:42,345 of San Diego. 8605 05:02:44,490 --> 05:02:44,716 However there are municipal 8606 05:02:44,716 --> 05:02:47,116 code provisions that address 8607 05:02:49,555 --> 05:02:51,955 unbundled parking and currently 8608 05:02:54,259 --> 05:02:55,600 as written it does include all 8609 05:02:55,600 --> 05:02:55,727 parking fees If there is a 8610 05:02:55,727 --> 05:02:58,127 desire to exclude that 8611 05:03:01,600 --> 05:03:02,301 unbundled parking that would be 8612 05:03:02,301 --> 05:03:02,801 something that could be added 8613 05:03:02,801 --> 05:03:03,102 to the ordinance. 8614 05:03:03,102 --> 05:03:03,568 Okay. 8615 05:03:03,568 --> 05:03:03,936 Quick question. 8616 05:03:03,936 --> 05:03:05,936 Thank you. 8617 05:03:06,772 --> 05:03:07,473 You said you said there's a 8618 05:03:07,473 --> 05:03:07,906 state law but it doesn't apply 8619 05:03:07,906 --> 05:03:09,906 to San Diego. 8620 05:03:11,760 --> 05:03:11,810 It is by it specifically states 8621 05:03:11,810 --> 05:03:12,444 what counties and jurisdictions 8622 05:03:12,444 --> 05:03:16,440 it applies to and does not 8623 05:03:17,182 --> 05:03:17,483 include the county of San Diego 8624 05:03:17,483 --> 05:03:18,170 . 8625 05:03:18,170 --> 05:03:18,316 >> That's strange. 8626 05:03:18,316 --> 05:03:20,316 Okay. 8627 05:03:22,420 --> 05:03:23,155 Thank you for those answers and 8628 05:03:23,155 --> 05:03:23,522 I appreciate the work that went 8629 05:03:23,522 --> 05:03:23,923 into this. 8630 05:03:23,923 --> 05:03:24,523 Absolutely. 8631 05:03:24,523 --> 05:03:27,523 I do have concerns that 8632 05:03:28,460 --> 05:03:29,161 the price regulations in 8633 05:03:29,161 --> 05:03:29,728 the ordinance could backfire. 8634 05:03:29,728 --> 05:03:32,728 I'm worried that if we 8635 05:03:33,765 --> 05:03:34,466 institute caps in our crystal 8636 05:03:34,466 --> 05:03:35,166 clear on what constitute a fee 8637 05:03:35,166 --> 05:03:37,566 and how they operate 8638 05:03:39,605 --> 05:03:40,172 functionally, how that impacts 8639 05:03:40,172 --> 05:03:40,873 the entire ecosystem, 8640 05:03:40,873 --> 05:03:41,540 the renters who are paying for 8641 05:03:41,540 --> 05:03:43,843 it right now and the renters 8642 05:03:43,843 --> 05:03:44,143 who are not paying for it right 8643 05:03:44,143 --> 05:03:45,770 now. 8644 05:03:45,770 --> 05:03:45,711 What I don't want to see us do 8645 05:03:45,711 --> 05:03:48,711 is create a scenario where 8646 05:03:50,216 --> 05:03:50,883 rents rise to compensate for 8647 05:03:50,883 --> 05:03:51,250 those caps which would hurt 8648 05:03:51,250 --> 05:03:51,917 everyone. 8649 05:03:51,917 --> 05:03:55,655 I mean so it's one of those 8650 05:03:55,655 --> 05:03:56,523 issues where the details really 8651 05:03:56,523 --> 05:03:57,223 matter And if we allow for that 8652 05:03:57,223 --> 05:03:57,623 to happen the problem doesn't 8653 05:03:57,623 --> 05:03:59,623 get solved. 8654 05:04:00,793 --> 05:04:01,560 It's simply change the line 8655 05:04:01,560 --> 05:04:02,261 item that is on an invoice 8656 05:04:02,261 --> 05:04:02,628 while the cost could go up for 8657 05:04:02,628 --> 05:04:04,628 everyone. 8658 05:04:06,799 --> 05:04:07,500 I do want to thank one member 8659 05:04:07,500 --> 05:04:08,166 of the public specifically who 8660 05:04:08,166 --> 05:04:11,837 did show up here to talk in 8661 05:04:11,837 --> 05:04:12,505 support of of the proposal That 8662 05:04:12,505 --> 05:04:13,390 younger gentleman is not in 8663 05:04:13,390 --> 05:04:13,573 the room right now. 8664 05:04:13,573 --> 05:04:14,140 He left a while ago. 8665 05:04:14,140 --> 05:04:17,140 He said that the most 8666 05:04:17,143 --> 05:04:17,843 vulnerable communities that are 8667 05:04:17,843 --> 05:04:18,544 being taken advantage of right 8668 05:04:18,544 --> 05:04:19,111 now need to be educated about 8669 05:04:19,111 --> 05:04:21,511 their rights and given 8670 05:04:22,140 --> 05:04:22,415 the resources to defend 8671 05:04:22,415 --> 05:04:23,149 themselves. 8672 05:04:23,149 --> 05:04:23,449 And he's absolutely right about 8673 05:04:23,449 --> 05:04:24,490 that. 8674 05:04:24,490 --> 05:04:27,490 Policies can be good but 8675 05:04:27,220 --> 05:04:27,954 without a system to inform 8676 05:04:27,954 --> 05:04:28,654 people of their rights it won't 8677 05:04:28,654 --> 05:04:28,988 have nearly the impact that's 8678 05:04:28,988 --> 05:04:30,988 needed. 8679 05:04:33,250 --> 05:04:33,525 Some problems aren't solved 8680 05:04:33,525 --> 05:04:34,226 with a new law. 8681 05:04:34,226 --> 05:04:34,794 They're solved with educating 8682 05:04:34,794 --> 05:04:37,794 people to stand up for 8683 05:04:38,970 --> 05:04:38,797 themselves and their neighbors 8684 05:04:38,797 --> 05:04:39,499 and giving them the tools to 8685 05:04:39,499 --> 05:04:40,233 defend their rights which is a 8686 05:04:40,233 --> 05:04:43,233 more fundamental way to prevent 8687 05:04:44,137 --> 05:04:44,871 exploitation and gouging. 8688 05:04:44,871 --> 05:04:45,570 No one wants exploitation and 8689 05:04:45,570 --> 05:04:46,305 price gouging and I think that 8690 05:04:46,305 --> 05:04:48,705 the transparency and components 8691 05:04:49,709 --> 05:04:50,443 do a lot of good work to 8692 05:04:50,443 --> 05:04:51,143 accomplish that so that renters 8693 05:04:51,143 --> 05:04:54,347 can see what they're going to 8694 05:04:54,347 --> 05:04:55,314 be charged exactly and be able 8695 05:04:55,314 --> 05:04:59,514 to to stand up if something is 8696 05:04:59,585 --> 05:05:00,285 unfair to be able to question 8697 05:05:00,285 --> 05:05:00,953 why something is the way it is 8698 05:05:00,953 --> 05:05:03,953 And the public needs to 8699 05:05:04,657 --> 05:05:05,258 understand also why the price 8700 05:05:05,258 --> 05:05:05,958 regulations are going to 8701 05:05:05,958 --> 05:05:08,358 achieve what they're intended 8702 05:05:09,495 --> 05:05:10,196 to achieve which at this point 8703 05:05:10,196 --> 05:05:10,929 is still unclear And I know 8704 05:05:10,929 --> 05:05:11,297 we're going to have more debate 8705 05:05:11,297 --> 05:05:13,297 about it. 8706 05:05:13,599 --> 05:05:14,267 The public needs to understand 8707 05:05:14,267 --> 05:05:14,934 why the proposed 5% caps are 8708 05:05:14,934 --> 05:05:15,535 appropriate, how particular 8709 05:05:15,535 --> 05:05:17,935 cost recovery bands are 8710 05:05:18,905 --> 05:05:19,605 supposed to work without 8711 05:05:19,605 --> 05:05:20,273 driving up prices for everyone 8712 05:05:20,273 --> 05:05:22,673 And fundamentally where that 8713 05:05:24,430 --> 05:05:24,344 math is grounded in and how it 8714 05:05:24,344 --> 05:05:24,944 works. 8715 05:05:24,944 --> 05:05:27,944 So thank you for putting 8716 05:05:29,682 --> 05:05:30,283 the proposal today and I'll 8717 05:05:30,283 --> 05:05:30,683 have more questions in 8718 05:05:30,683 --> 05:05:31,490 the future. 8719 05:05:31,490 --> 05:05:31,718 Thank you. 8720 05:05:31,718 --> 05:05:32,385 Council PRESIDENT All right. 8721 05:05:32,385 --> 05:05:32,685 Thank you Councilmember Camp 8722 05:05:32,685 --> 05:05:33,485 here. 8723 05:05:33,485 --> 05:05:33,886 We'll go next to Council member 8724 05:05:33,886 --> 05:05:34,286 Whitburn. 8725 05:05:34,286 --> 05:05:35,210 Thank you. 8726 05:05:35,210 --> 05:05:38,210 Council PRESIDENT Thank you MR. 8727 05:05:38,625 --> 05:05:39,325 Wynn for presenting this item. 8728 05:05:39,325 --> 05:05:39,993 A follow up question about 8729 05:05:39,993 --> 05:05:42,993 the piece of this regarding 8730 05:05:42,995 --> 05:05:43,663 caps that would cap fees at 5% 8731 05:05:43,663 --> 05:05:47,263 of the monthly rent and what 8732 05:05:47,667 --> 05:05:48,670 fees would be included within 8733 05:05:48,670 --> 05:05:48,968 that cap. 8734 05:05:48,968 --> 05:05:52,539 So am I understanding that at 8735 05:05:52,539 --> 05:05:55,539 this point parking fees would 8736 05:05:57,176 --> 05:05:57,644 be included within the cap? 8737 05:05:57,644 --> 05:05:58,378 That's correct. 8738 05:05:58,378 --> 05:06:02,115 So the way that we crafted that 8739 05:06:02,115 --> 05:06:02,816 portion of the ordinance was to 8740 05:06:02,816 --> 05:06:04,816 specifically address repeated 8741 05:06:07,153 --> 05:06:07,854 or recurring fees. 8742 05:06:07,854 --> 05:06:08,588 So anything that is associated 8743 05:06:08,588 --> 05:06:11,588 with one time maintenance such 8744 05:06:12,859 --> 05:06:13,493 as a repair would not be 8745 05:06:13,493 --> 05:06:14,600 captured in the 5% cap but 8746 05:06:14,600 --> 05:06:14,427 parking would be okay. 8747 05:06:14,427 --> 05:06:16,427 Thank you. 8748 05:06:17,864 --> 05:06:20,864 And then what about utilities? 8749 05:06:21,567 --> 05:06:22,269 Would you So like if a landlord 8750 05:06:22,269 --> 05:06:22,836 bills utilities or you know 8751 05:06:22,836 --> 05:06:25,236 pays the utilities for 8752 05:06:26,273 --> 05:06:27,173 the whole building that bills 8753 05:06:27,173 --> 05:06:29,573 tenants individually are those 8754 05:06:32,712 --> 05:06:33,900 fees is capped within the 5% or 8755 05:06:33,900 --> 05:06:35,900 not? 8756 05:06:36,716 --> 05:06:37,417 >> No Councilmember we 8757 05:06:37,417 --> 05:06:38,510 specifically defined our fees 8758 05:06:38,510 --> 05:06:38,351 to exclude utility charges 8759 05:06:38,351 --> 05:06:40,351 okay. 8760 05:06:42,622 --> 05:06:43,189 Because we have an existing 8761 05:06:43,189 --> 05:06:43,557 utility fee or utility 8762 05:06:43,557 --> 05:06:45,557 ordinance. 8763 05:06:46,590 --> 05:06:46,559 Thank you. 8764 05:06:46,559 --> 05:06:47,930 That's helpful. 8765 05:06:47,930 --> 05:06:47,726 I really appreciate 8766 05:06:47,726 --> 05:06:50,126 the continued attention to 8767 05:06:52,732 --> 05:06:53,466 the high cost of living and 8768 05:06:53,466 --> 05:06:56,169 want to recognize the work that 8769 05:06:56,169 --> 05:06:56,837 council members Ella Rivera and 8770 05:06:56,837 --> 05:06:57,270 Foster and their staffs have 8771 05:06:57,270 --> 05:06:59,270 put into this. 8772 05:07:00,941 --> 05:07:01,575 And thank you to you for 8773 05:07:01,575 --> 05:07:02,275 bringing this to the City 8774 05:07:02,275 --> 05:07:02,642 Council to get some additional 8775 05:07:02,642 --> 05:07:04,642 feedback. 8776 05:07:05,545 --> 05:07:06,245 The biggest part of the cost of 8777 05:07:06,245 --> 05:07:09,845 living is the cost of housing 8778 05:07:09,916 --> 05:07:10,617 and it is important to examine 8779 05:07:10,617 --> 05:07:11,319 ways to make Sandiego more 8780 05:07:11,319 --> 05:07:11,718 affordable for people who are 8781 05:07:11,718 --> 05:07:13,718 struggling. 8782 05:07:15,455 --> 05:07:15,889 I like to focus on 8783 05:07:15,889 --> 05:07:17,889 transparency. 8784 05:07:20,270 --> 05:07:20,527 Renters do have a right to know 8785 05:07:20,527 --> 05:07:21,228 the fees upfront. 8786 05:07:21,228 --> 05:07:21,927 There should be no unexpected 8787 05:07:21,927 --> 05:07:24,327 fees that prospective renters 8788 05:07:25,565 --> 05:07:26,660 discover late in the process. 8789 05:07:26,660 --> 05:07:26,800 I think requiring 8790 05:07:26,800 --> 05:07:29,800 the itemization of fees on 8791 05:07:29,836 --> 05:07:30,604 website listings makes great 8792 05:07:30,604 --> 05:07:33,604 sense As far as broader 8793 05:07:35,420 --> 05:07:35,709 advertising goes, I would 8794 05:07:35,709 --> 05:07:36,343 support making that apply to 8795 05:07:36,343 --> 05:07:38,743 advertising where there is 8796 05:07:39,913 --> 05:07:40,614 enough space to do that I could 8797 05:07:40,614 --> 05:07:41,315 envision difficulties listing 8798 05:07:41,315 --> 05:07:45,850 fees on a social media ad for 8799 05:07:45,850 --> 05:07:45,618 example so I would take that 8800 05:07:45,618 --> 05:07:47,618 into consideration. 8801 05:07:49,556 --> 05:07:50,224 The most important thing that 8802 05:07:50,224 --> 05:07:53,824 the City Council could do to 8803 05:07:54,495 --> 05:07:55,195 make housing more affordable is 8804 05:07:55,195 --> 05:07:58,195 to make rents more affordable. 8805 05:07:58,932 --> 05:07:59,599 And how could we do that? 8806 05:07:59,599 --> 05:08:00,267 We could make rents more 8807 05:08:00,267 --> 05:08:02,267 affordable by incentivizing 8808 05:08:03,838 --> 05:08:04,171 the construction of more 8809 05:08:04,171 --> 05:08:04,838 housing. 8810 05:08:04,838 --> 05:08:07,838 When you build more housing, 8811 05:08:08,809 --> 05:08:09,510 when you increase the supply 8812 05:08:09,510 --> 05:08:10,177 there is more competition to 8813 05:08:10,177 --> 05:08:10,944 attract tenants And that is 8814 05:08:10,944 --> 05:08:14,810 what we have been seeing in 8815 05:08:14,810 --> 05:08:14,815 the last few years. 8816 05:08:14,815 --> 05:08:15,516 We have seen significantly more 8817 05:08:15,516 --> 05:08:18,516 home construction in the last 8818 05:08:18,986 --> 05:08:19,586 few years, particularly 8819 05:08:19,586 --> 05:08:20,320 apartment construction. 8820 05:08:20,320 --> 05:08:23,920 And as more and more apartments 8821 05:08:24,124 --> 05:08:24,691 have come online we have seen 8822 05:08:24,691 --> 05:08:25,392 more vacancies And as 8823 05:08:25,392 --> 05:08:27,792 competition for tenants heats 8824 05:08:28,862 --> 05:08:29,663 up, rents have been stabilizing 8825 05:08:29,663 --> 05:08:33,166 and in some cases declining a 8826 05:08:33,166 --> 05:08:34,340 bit. 8827 05:08:34,340 --> 05:08:36,769 Kpbs wrote a story about this 8828 05:08:36,769 --> 05:08:37,437 on MARCH 27th of this year. 8829 05:08:37,437 --> 05:08:38,138 Three months ago it was 8830 05:08:38,138 --> 05:08:40,538 headlined San Diego Rents 8831 05:08:41,909 --> 05:08:42,576 Declined more than 19 of 8832 05:08:42,576 --> 05:08:44,976 the nation's top 20 markets 8833 05:08:46,113 --> 05:08:46,981 following a surge in supply. 8834 05:08:46,981 --> 05:08:47,481 I want San Diego to keep moving 8835 05:08:47,481 --> 05:08:49,481 in that direction. 8836 05:08:51,418 --> 05:08:51,886 I want rents to become more and 8837 05:08:51,886 --> 05:08:52,553 more affordable. 8838 05:08:52,553 --> 05:08:52,886 We should keep building more 8839 05:08:52,886 --> 05:08:54,886 housing. 8840 05:08:56,290 --> 05:08:56,957 I want any additional fees to 8841 05:08:56,957 --> 05:08:59,957 be fully transparent and be 8842 05:09:00,561 --> 05:09:01,195 fully transparent before 8843 05:09:01,195 --> 05:09:02,290 somebody pays hard earned 8844 05:09:02,290 --> 05:09:05,533 dollars just to apply for an 8845 05:09:05,533 --> 05:09:06,300 apartment. 8846 05:09:06,300 --> 05:09:07,234 Cut me in for that. 8847 05:09:07,234 --> 05:09:10,838 But what I don't want to see is 8848 05:09:10,838 --> 05:09:11,539 fees that are currently spelled 8849 05:09:11,539 --> 05:09:12,206 out transparently just getting 8850 05:09:12,206 --> 05:09:15,206 baked into the rent causing 8851 05:09:15,643 --> 05:09:16,577 rents to go up. 8852 05:09:16,577 --> 05:09:20,215 If fees get baked into the rent 8853 05:09:20,215 --> 05:09:20,915 there are three consequences to 8854 05:09:20,915 --> 05:09:21,247 that that I would really hate 8855 05:09:21,247 --> 05:09:23,247 to see. 8856 05:09:24,919 --> 05:09:25,552 First if fees get baked into 8857 05:09:25,552 --> 05:09:29,152 the rent the rent goes up. 8858 05:09:30,240 --> 05:09:30,958 The rent is too high already. 8859 05:09:30,958 --> 05:09:34,361 It needs to go down not up. 8860 05:09:34,361 --> 05:09:35,290 Second, if fees get baked into 8861 05:09:35,290 --> 05:09:35,429 the rent it's actually less 8862 05:09:35,429 --> 05:09:37,429 transparent. 8863 05:09:39,400 --> 05:09:40,134 You're paying higher rent and 8864 05:09:40,134 --> 05:09:40,701 you're not seeing the fees that 8865 05:09:40,701 --> 05:09:43,101 are baked into that. 8866 05:09:44,710 --> 05:09:47,671 And third, if he's get baked 8867 05:09:48,142 --> 05:09:48,743 into the rent then everybody is 8868 05:09:48,743 --> 05:09:49,443 paying for that service 8869 05:09:49,443 --> 05:09:52,443 regardless of whether they use 8870 05:09:52,914 --> 05:09:53,681 that service. 8871 05:09:53,681 --> 05:09:56,810 For example, supposing your 8872 05:10:01,322 --> 05:10:02,890 apartment rent is $2,500, about 8873 05:10:02,890 --> 05:10:04,489 5% of your rent is $125. 8874 05:10:06,894 --> 05:10:07,595 But parking in a downtown 8875 05:10:07,595 --> 05:10:08,960 apartment building can easily 8876 05:10:08,960 --> 05:10:10,960 cost $200 a month. 8877 05:10:11,833 --> 05:10:15,703 Trust me, I know I worry that 8878 05:10:15,703 --> 05:10:16,371 those parking fees will cease 8879 05:10:16,371 --> 05:10:16,938 to be charged separately. 8880 05:10:16,938 --> 05:10:17,305 They'll get baked into 8881 05:10:17,305 --> 05:10:17,805 the rent. 8882 05:10:17,805 --> 05:10:20,205 Rents will go up. 8883 05:10:21,809 --> 05:10:22,510 It'll say, you know, rent is 8884 05:10:22,510 --> 05:10:23,111 whatever parking included that 8885 05:10:23,111 --> 05:10:26,470 will just get baked into 8886 05:10:26,470 --> 05:10:26,714 the rent that way And suddenly 8887 05:10:26,714 --> 05:10:30,314 you will have a situation in 8888 05:10:30,485 --> 05:10:31,152 which people who don't own a 8889 05:10:31,152 --> 05:10:34,152 car are paying higher rents 8890 05:10:35,523 --> 05:10:36,324 that effectively subsidized 8891 05:10:36,324 --> 05:10:36,624 the rents of people who do own 8892 05:10:36,624 --> 05:10:37,292 cars. 8893 05:10:37,292 --> 05:10:40,292 That would be a significant 8894 05:10:40,795 --> 05:10:41,529 unintended consequence of this 8895 05:10:41,529 --> 05:10:42,163 and one that isn't very climate 8896 05:10:42,163 --> 05:10:45,163 friendly and I don't think 8897 05:10:45,567 --> 05:10:46,434 anybody is looking to do. 8898 05:10:46,434 --> 05:10:50,340 But I could totally see that 8899 05:10:50,605 --> 05:10:51,206 happening if parking is 8900 05:10:51,206 --> 05:10:53,606 included in that 5% cap. 8901 05:10:55,430 --> 05:10:55,576 So I would agree that we should 8902 05:10:55,576 --> 05:10:56,311 ensure that fees are 8903 05:10:56,311 --> 05:10:58,711 transparent and are transparent 8904 05:11:00,115 --> 05:11:00,815 right upfront and as long as 8905 05:11:00,815 --> 05:11:03,815 fees are transparent upfront I 8906 05:11:04,586 --> 05:11:05,320 would be cautious about 8907 05:11:05,320 --> 05:11:05,954 creating a situation where fees 8908 05:11:05,954 --> 05:11:07,954 are supposedly eliminated. 8909 05:11:09,991 --> 05:11:10,525 But in fact are just baked into 8910 05:11:10,525 --> 05:11:10,925 the rent that's less 8911 05:11:10,925 --> 05:11:12,925 transparent. 8912 05:11:14,595 --> 05:11:15,329 It raises rents and it causes 8913 05:11:15,329 --> 05:11:15,964 renters who don't use a service 8914 05:11:15,964 --> 05:11:18,964 to subsidize those who do. 8915 05:11:19,367 --> 05:11:20,680 So in summary I support 8916 05:11:20,680 --> 05:11:20,735 the elements of this proposal 8917 05:11:20,735 --> 05:11:22,735 that increase transparency. 8918 05:11:24,339 --> 05:11:25,400 I urge caution about doing 8919 05:11:25,400 --> 05:11:25,473 anything that would result in 8920 05:11:25,473 --> 05:11:27,473 higher rents. 8921 05:11:28,543 --> 05:11:29,311 Rents are declining right now. 8922 05:11:29,311 --> 05:11:29,911 That is far and away the best 8923 05:11:29,911 --> 05:11:30,311 way to make housing more 8924 05:11:30,311 --> 05:11:32,311 affordable. 8925 05:11:33,681 --> 05:11:34,216 Let's keep doing that and keep 8926 05:11:34,216 --> 05:11:34,916 building more homes. 8927 05:11:34,916 --> 05:11:35,283 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 8928 05:11:35,283 --> 05:11:35,649 All right. 8929 05:11:35,649 --> 05:11:37,649 Thank you. 8930 05:11:38,920 --> 05:11:39,554 Council member Whitburn Not see 8931 05:11:39,554 --> 05:11:42,554 anybody else in the light. 8932 05:11:44,292 --> 05:11:44,559 I have a few comments of my 8933 05:11:44,559 --> 05:11:45,293 own. 8934 05:11:45,293 --> 05:11:48,797 So first thank you Maya and 8935 05:11:48,797 --> 05:11:49,564 Jeremy for the work. 8936 05:11:49,564 --> 05:11:50,232 And I want to thank 8937 05:11:50,232 --> 05:11:52,632 Councilmember Eli Rivera and 8938 05:11:53,468 --> 05:11:54,350 Councilmember Foster for 8939 05:11:54,350 --> 05:11:54,769 bringing this forward. 8940 05:11:54,769 --> 05:11:55,337 It sounds like there's a lot of 8941 05:11:55,337 --> 05:11:57,737 broad based support on 8942 05:11:58,540 --> 05:11:59,400 the council and I think it was 8943 05:11:59,400 --> 05:12:01,400 very productive as 8944 05:12:03,110 --> 05:12:03,979 Councilmember Foster introduced 8945 05:12:03,979 --> 05:12:07,579 to get input coming out of 8946 05:12:08,549 --> 05:12:09,384 the cost of living committee. 8947 05:12:09,384 --> 05:12:10,850 I want to thank everyone who 8948 05:12:10,850 --> 05:12:12,485 spoke today contributing your 8949 05:12:12,821 --> 05:12:13,588 perspectives. 8950 05:12:13,588 --> 05:12:14,288 There's a lot of positive 8951 05:12:14,288 --> 05:12:14,956 recommendations in this draft 8952 05:12:14,956 --> 05:12:17,956 proposal and some areas that 8953 05:12:18,293 --> 05:12:18,960 need refining as we've heard 8954 05:12:18,960 --> 05:12:21,960 and this is that information 8955 05:12:22,297 --> 05:12:23,310 item are still opportunity to 8956 05:12:23,310 --> 05:12:23,865 examine those changes and build 8957 05:12:23,865 --> 05:12:27,465 a bill to build a broader 8958 05:12:27,536 --> 05:12:28,403 coalition. 8959 05:12:28,403 --> 05:12:29,104 Two areas I want to focus on 8960 05:12:29,104 --> 05:12:29,805 speak to ensuring code changes 8961 05:12:29,805 --> 05:12:32,205 can be operationalized and 8962 05:12:32,808 --> 05:12:33,508 enforced and making sure we're 8963 05:12:33,508 --> 05:12:34,208 not creating any new loopholes 8964 05:12:34,208 --> 05:12:37,679 where tenants could be at risk 8965 05:12:37,679 --> 05:12:38,280 for unintentional exploitation 8966 05:12:38,280 --> 05:12:38,881 and or trap well-meaning 8967 05:12:38,881 --> 05:12:40,881 landlords starting with 8968 05:12:42,384 --> 05:12:42,751 the rental applications 8969 05:12:42,751 --> 05:12:43,485 industry. 8970 05:12:43,485 --> 05:12:44,153 Members mentioned the potential 8971 05:12:44,153 --> 05:12:47,153 for fraudulent or I develop 8972 05:12:47,227 --> 05:12:47,956 background checks. 8973 05:12:47,956 --> 05:12:48,590 Prevent this we could explore a 8974 05:12:48,590 --> 05:12:50,990 central portal for rental 8975 05:12:51,492 --> 05:12:52,194 applications could be done 8976 05:12:52,194 --> 05:12:52,728 through a single fee based 8977 05:12:52,728 --> 05:12:53,395 application and cost 8978 05:12:53,395 --> 05:12:53,795 recoverable from a staffing 8979 05:12:53,795 --> 05:12:55,795 perspective. 8980 05:12:57,650 --> 05:12:57,699 It would reduce costs for 8981 05:12:57,699 --> 05:12:58,660 tenants as well as protect 8982 05:12:58,660 --> 05:13:00,660 landlords. 8983 05:13:01,837 --> 05:13:02,638 I also see that itemizing all 8984 05:13:02,638 --> 05:13:06,238 fees on an advertisement can be 8985 05:13:06,775 --> 05:13:07,376 cumbersome but as we've seen in 8986 05:13:07,376 --> 05:13:07,976 other platforms Zillow, 8987 05:13:07,976 --> 05:13:09,976 Ticketmaster and Airbnb 8988 05:13:11,580 --> 05:13:12,348 customers want the all in cost 8989 05:13:12,348 --> 05:13:13,480 upfront and from there I can 8990 05:13:13,480 --> 05:13:15,984 look at the breakdown of cost 8991 05:13:15,984 --> 05:13:16,585 and make an informed choice 8992 05:13:16,585 --> 05:13:17,452 that they can rely on. 8993 05:13:17,452 --> 05:13:21,520 As we've heard too many people 8994 05:13:21,890 --> 05:13:21,756 are on the very vulnerable 8995 05:13:21,756 --> 05:13:24,756 edges and an unexpected fee 8996 05:13:25,693 --> 05:13:26,562 could push them over the edge. 8997 05:13:26,562 --> 05:13:27,262 And for those that are not on 8998 05:13:27,262 --> 05:13:30,365 the other side of the digital 8999 05:13:30,365 --> 05:13:31,330 divide, I'm sure there's ways 9000 05:13:31,330 --> 05:13:31,433 to be able to achieve those 9001 05:13:31,433 --> 05:13:33,433 same goals. 9002 05:13:35,604 --> 05:13:36,272 Charges like this that will not 9003 05:13:36,272 --> 05:13:36,939 dilute the ultimate goal of 9004 05:13:36,939 --> 05:13:38,939 burdening burdening renters. 9005 05:13:40,109 --> 05:13:40,810 I know my own staff and their 9006 05:13:40,810 --> 05:13:41,377 peers face these challenges on 9007 05:13:41,377 --> 05:13:41,944 the rental market and 9008 05:13:41,944 --> 05:13:44,344 especially a time when 9009 05:13:44,914 --> 05:13:45,548 affordability and careful 9010 05:13:45,548 --> 05:13:46,140 spending are at the top of 9011 05:13:46,140 --> 05:13:48,140 everyone's mind. 9012 05:13:48,750 --> 05:13:49,484 Regarding unintended 9013 05:13:49,484 --> 05:13:50,186 consequences I too am concerned 9014 05:13:50,186 --> 05:13:52,586 with the possible exploitation 9015 05:13:53,656 --> 05:13:54,523 of a cap on total fees and I 9016 05:13:54,523 --> 05:13:58,723 also do not want to see that 9017 05:13:59,228 --> 05:13:59,928 rental landlords are raising 9018 05:13:59,928 --> 05:14:00,663 base rents at higher rates in 9019 05:14:00,663 --> 05:14:03,332 order to account for costs that 9020 05:14:03,332 --> 05:14:03,632 would have been covered by fees 9021 05:14:03,632 --> 05:14:04,400 . 9022 05:14:04,400 --> 05:14:05,670 And this would be for services 9023 05:14:05,670 --> 05:14:08,570 that tenants MAY want and as 9024 05:14:08,570 --> 05:14:09,438 well are willing to pay for it. 9025 05:14:09,438 --> 05:14:10,239 And if the additional cost hits 9026 05:14:10,239 --> 05:14:13,643 that cap the fees might be 9027 05:14:13,643 --> 05:14:14,343 added into base rent or even 9028 05:14:14,343 --> 05:14:15,110 more concerning such services 9029 05:14:15,110 --> 05:14:18,213 MAY no longer be available to a 9030 05:14:18,213 --> 05:14:19,181 tenant. 9031 05:14:19,181 --> 05:14:20,490 I do not think there's a lot of 9032 05:14:20,490 --> 05:14:23,286 change to be put in place in 9033 05:14:23,286 --> 05:14:23,986 this ordinance and therefore 9034 05:14:23,986 --> 05:14:24,687 would like to see these other 9035 05:14:24,687 --> 05:14:27,687 issues addressed when it comes 9036 05:14:28,624 --> 05:14:28,924 back to council as a final 9037 05:14:28,924 --> 05:14:29,625 vote. 9038 05:14:29,625 --> 05:14:32,250 And Councilmember Ella Rivera 9039 05:14:32,828 --> 05:14:33,596 kind of made reference. 9040 05:14:33,596 --> 05:14:34,263 I too am concerned by 9041 05:14:34,263 --> 05:14:34,897 statements that new projects 9042 05:14:34,897 --> 05:14:37,297 pencil by bolstering their 9043 05:14:38,200 --> 05:14:38,768 performance not just on their 9044 05:14:38,768 --> 05:14:39,435 rents or expected rent 9045 05:14:39,435 --> 05:14:42,435 increases but on these fees. 9046 05:14:42,805 --> 05:14:43,439 This is not financially 9047 05:14:43,439 --> 05:14:45,439 prudent, creates perverse 9048 05:14:47,142 --> 05:14:47,743 incentive and is not a defense 9049 05:14:47,743 --> 05:14:48,510 against this ordinance. 9050 05:14:48,510 --> 05:14:52,381 And as stated if we build more 9051 05:14:52,381 --> 05:14:53,820 housing rents MAY stabilize, 9052 05:14:53,820 --> 05:14:53,816 rents MAY even come down and 9053 05:14:53,816 --> 05:14:56,816 landlords MAY be more defensive 9054 05:14:57,860 --> 05:14:57,653 and more protective of these 9055 05:14:57,653 --> 05:14:59,653 fees to counterbalance 9056 05:15:01,857 --> 05:15:02,257 reduction in the overall rental 9057 05:15:02,257 --> 05:15:02,925 marketplace. 9058 05:15:02,925 --> 05:15:06,525 These are some of the tough 9059 05:15:07,196 --> 05:15:07,864 conversations lie for us to 9060 05:15:07,864 --> 05:15:10,864 sift through and find that 9061 05:15:11,933 --> 05:15:12,568 right balance. 9062 05:15:12,568 --> 05:15:13,202 There were good arguments 9063 05:15:13,202 --> 05:15:13,769 raised that might call for 9064 05:15:13,769 --> 05:15:15,769 additional exemptions. 9065 05:15:16,906 --> 05:15:17,607 The military family that is not 9066 05:15:17,607 --> 05:15:18,274 a landlord but just hanging on 9067 05:15:18,274 --> 05:15:21,874 to their family home as they 9068 05:15:22,100 --> 05:15:22,712 get reassigned in other areas. 9069 05:15:22,712 --> 05:15:23,379 The mom and pops that have 9070 05:15:23,379 --> 05:15:25,779 legitimate concerns and with 9071 05:15:26,516 --> 05:15:27,183 the extra paperwork and I hope 9072 05:15:27,183 --> 05:15:27,849 there can be outreach and I 9073 05:15:27,849 --> 05:15:30,486 think I heard it from both 9074 05:15:30,486 --> 05:15:31,220 council members with the goal 9075 05:15:31,220 --> 05:15:31,821 the building a bigger coalition 9076 05:15:31,821 --> 05:15:34,221 and support before this 9077 05:15:35,959 --> 05:15:36,693 ordinance returns. 9078 05:15:36,693 --> 05:15:37,327 I wish government could be more 9079 05:15:37,327 --> 05:15:38,270 surgical so that we could 9080 05:15:38,270 --> 05:15:38,328 accommodate most sides of this 9081 05:15:38,328 --> 05:15:40,328 issue. 9082 05:15:40,997 --> 05:15:41,664 We MAY not get there but it 9083 05:15:41,664 --> 05:15:41,998 should not be for lack of 9084 05:15:41,998 --> 05:15:43,998 trying. 9085 05:15:44,868 --> 05:15:45,635 This is important. 9086 05:15:45,635 --> 05:15:46,200 Let's be very clear This is 9087 05:15:46,200 --> 05:15:46,636 important. 9088 05:15:46,636 --> 05:15:49,636 But let's get this right. 9089 05:15:49,939 --> 05:15:50,573 Thank you again Councilmember 9090 05:15:50,573 --> 05:15:51,241 delivering Council member 9091 05:15:51,241 --> 05:15:54,241 Foster your entire team for 9092 05:15:54,544 --> 05:15:55,311 the work on that. 9093 05:15:55,311 --> 05:15:56,346 And that will end my comments. 9094 05:15:56,346 --> 05:15:59,482 And with that we will return to 9095 05:15:59,482 --> 05:16:00,183 Councilmember Eli Rivera. 9096 05:16:00,183 --> 05:16:00,817 Thank you, Council PRESIDENT. 9097 05:16:00,817 --> 05:16:01,484 I just want to thank my 9098 05:16:01,484 --> 05:16:03,884 colleagues for the feedback. 9099 05:16:04,154 --> 05:16:04,621 It's really, really helpful to 9100 05:16:04,621 --> 05:16:05,522 get that today. 9101 05:16:05,522 --> 05:16:08,458 What I've heard is a general 9102 05:16:08,458 --> 05:16:09,192 consensus around 9103 05:16:09,192 --> 05:16:09,926 the transparency components and 9104 05:16:09,926 --> 05:16:12,926 an agreement that people should 9105 05:16:14,970 --> 05:16:14,798 know what they're going to be 9106 05:16:14,798 --> 05:16:15,565 asked to pay and they should 9107 05:16:15,565 --> 05:16:18,401 know that at the beginning of 9108 05:16:18,401 --> 05:16:19,102 their search and before they 9109 05:16:19,102 --> 05:16:22,102 sign a lease not after. 9110 05:16:23,239 --> 05:16:23,873 And it shouldn't be a moving 9111 05:16:23,873 --> 05:16:26,273 target during their their 9112 05:16:27,710 --> 05:16:28,378 tenure in their homes. 9113 05:16:28,378 --> 05:16:29,790 And then the important 9114 05:16:29,790 --> 05:16:32,790 questions that are being asked 9115 05:16:32,315 --> 05:16:32,982 about ensuring that we're we're 9116 05:16:32,982 --> 05:16:35,382 not having an unintended 9117 05:16:37,530 --> 05:16:37,720 consequence of raising folks 9118 05:16:37,720 --> 05:16:40,120 rents who aren't benefiting 9119 05:16:41,691 --> 05:16:42,291 from the services that are are 9120 05:16:42,291 --> 05:16:45,291 being that they could be 9121 05:16:46,950 --> 05:16:47,230 charged a fee for. 9122 05:16:47,230 --> 05:16:51,468 I did want to address give my a 9123 05:16:51,468 --> 05:16:52,202 chance to address a little bit 9124 05:16:52,202 --> 05:16:55,802 of that because I think current 9125 05:16:55,939 --> 05:16:56,639 tenants have a have protections 9126 05:16:56,639 --> 05:16:57,274 on that front although there's 9127 05:16:57,274 --> 05:16:58,740 still some questions to be 9128 05:16:58,740 --> 05:17:00,644 asked So I'll hand it over to 9129 05:17:00,644 --> 05:17:01,410 my right. 9130 05:17:01,410 --> 05:17:03,810 So currently ab 1482 does 9131 05:17:05,482 --> 05:17:06,349 provide that rent cap that's in 9132 05:17:06,349 --> 05:17:09,949 place and allows for an annual 9133 05:17:10,253 --> 05:17:13,253 increase on a tenant's rent. 9134 05:17:13,790 --> 05:17:14,690 Currently it's allowed to go up 9135 05:17:14,690 --> 05:17:17,900 8.8% and beginning on AUGUST 9136 05:17:18,261 --> 05:17:18,762 1st of 2026 the allowable 9137 05:17:18,762 --> 05:17:20,762 increase is 8.2%. 9138 05:17:22,733 --> 05:17:23,567 >> Thanks Matt. 9139 05:17:23,567 --> 05:17:27,167 So I think the concern about 9140 05:17:27,737 --> 05:17:28,338 future rents baking in 9141 05:17:28,338 --> 05:17:29,139 everything regardless of 9142 05:17:29,139 --> 05:17:32,739 whether or not someone would be 9143 05:17:33,100 --> 05:17:36,610 using a service or an amenity 9144 05:17:37,547 --> 05:17:38,248 is a is certainly something 9145 05:17:38,248 --> 05:17:38,549 that we want to be thoughtful 9146 05:17:38,549 --> 05:17:39,215 about. 9147 05:17:39,215 --> 05:17:42,619 At the same time we do know 9148 05:17:42,619 --> 05:17:43,860 that there are protections for 9149 05:17:43,860 --> 05:17:43,787 current tenants. 9150 05:17:43,787 --> 05:17:47,890 And what we've seen is that 9151 05:17:47,890 --> 05:17:47,891 the fees are actually being 9152 05:17:47,891 --> 05:17:48,291 used as the workaround to those 9153 05:17:48,291 --> 05:17:50,291 protections. 9154 05:17:51,995 --> 05:17:52,863 And experience that we're 9155 05:17:52,863 --> 05:17:56,463 hearing from renters is a rent 9156 05:17:57,340 --> 05:17:57,768 increase up to the maximum 9157 05:17:57,768 --> 05:18:00,768 allowable under law and new 9158 05:18:01,772 --> 05:18:02,372 fees being pulled out of rent 9159 05:18:02,372 --> 05:18:05,372 to to exceed what that 9160 05:18:05,842 --> 05:18:06,242 allowable rent increase would 9161 05:18:06,242 --> 05:18:06,910 would be. 9162 05:18:06,910 --> 05:18:07,878 And that is what what's 9163 05:18:07,878 --> 05:18:10,814 prompting a lot of a lot of 9164 05:18:10,814 --> 05:18:11,585 this action. 9165 05:18:11,585 --> 05:18:12,116 And sometimes those increases 9166 05:18:12,116 --> 05:18:14,116 can be substantial. 9167 05:18:15,753 --> 05:18:18,753 And often they are often 9168 05:18:20,391 --> 05:18:21,580 coupled with is a choice to 9169 05:18:21,580 --> 05:18:21,759 either enter into a another 9170 05:18:21,759 --> 05:18:25,359 year lease with these new fees 9171 05:18:25,729 --> 05:18:29,929 added on or a month to month 9172 05:18:30,167 --> 05:18:31,350 agreement with a special fee 9173 05:18:31,350 --> 05:18:31,335 for being in a month to month 9174 05:18:31,335 --> 05:18:33,335 lease. 9175 05:18:35,105 --> 05:18:35,739 And so at that point there is 9176 05:18:35,739 --> 05:18:37,739 substantial leverage being 9177 05:18:39,576 --> 05:18:40,243 being wielded against renters. 9178 05:18:40,243 --> 05:18:42,643 They've experienced the full 9179 05:18:44,582 --> 05:18:45,348 rent increase. 9180 05:18:45,348 --> 05:18:45,983 They're being charged in a new 9181 05:18:45,983 --> 05:18:48,983 way for things that they'd 9182 05:18:49,619 --> 05:18:50,200 already been paying for in 9183 05:18:50,200 --> 05:18:50,721 their rent. 9184 05:18:50,721 --> 05:18:51,389 And they're being told that if 9185 05:18:51,389 --> 05:18:53,789 they don't accept those 9186 05:18:54,992 --> 05:18:55,759 conditions for a full year 9187 05:18:55,759 --> 05:18:58,759 they'll be charged even more 9188 05:19:00,300 --> 05:19:00,730 for wanting the flexibility of 9189 05:19:00,730 --> 05:19:03,730 the month to month structure. 9190 05:19:04,568 --> 05:19:05,169 So certainly all the questions 9191 05:19:05,169 --> 05:19:07,569 being raised are really 9192 05:19:08,706 --> 05:19:09,600 important and we will dig into 9193 05:19:09,600 --> 05:19:09,675 those. 9194 05:19:09,675 --> 05:19:10,374 I just wanted to give some 9195 05:19:10,374 --> 05:19:13,374 additional context as to why 9196 05:19:13,577 --> 05:19:14,278 this is is so important to us 9197 05:19:14,278 --> 05:19:17,878 and the way that we're seeing 9198 05:19:18,249 --> 05:19:21,249 these these fees utilized for 9199 05:19:22,119 --> 05:19:22,987 renters. 9200 05:19:22,987 --> 05:19:26,587 And then just just one last 9201 05:19:27,224 --> 05:19:28,192 last note. 9202 05:19:28,192 --> 05:19:31,192 We've got to create more 9203 05:19:31,863 --> 05:19:32,530 housing. 9204 05:19:32,530 --> 05:19:33,197 There's no doubt about that. 9205 05:19:33,197 --> 05:19:36,670 And I think many of 9206 05:19:36,670 --> 05:19:36,834 the advocates actually for this 9207 05:19:36,834 --> 05:19:37,468 that we heard from today have 9208 05:19:37,468 --> 05:19:39,868 been strong proponents of 9209 05:19:41,405 --> 05:19:42,173 building more housing. 9210 05:19:42,173 --> 05:19:45,773 And what I'm wrestling with is 9211 05:19:45,843 --> 05:19:46,510 is kind of untangling 9212 05:19:46,510 --> 05:19:48,910 the concerns about this 9213 05:19:51,616 --> 05:19:52,316 particular policy or component 9214 05:19:52,316 --> 05:19:55,916 of this policy being the thing 9215 05:19:56,253 --> 05:19:57,880 that leads to less production. 9216 05:19:57,880 --> 05:19:57,622 When we've heard the same thing 9217 05:19:57,622 --> 05:20:00,220 time and time again. 9218 05:20:00,558 --> 05:20:01,526 The Tenant Protection ordinance 9219 05:20:01,526 --> 05:20:02,226 of a few years ago we were told 9220 05:20:02,226 --> 05:20:05,226 was going to stunt development 9221 05:20:05,797 --> 05:20:06,530 And we've seen how much housing 9222 05:20:06,530 --> 05:20:10,130 has been built since that time. 9223 05:20:10,234 --> 05:20:10,968 That isn't to say that there 9224 05:20:10,968 --> 05:20:11,669 couldn't potentially be a straw 9225 05:20:11,669 --> 05:20:14,669 that breaks the camel's back. 9226 05:20:14,905 --> 05:20:15,806 But there is a certain 9227 05:20:15,806 --> 05:20:18,206 component of of hearing 9228 05:20:19,477 --> 05:20:23,770 the same thing over and over 9229 05:20:24,849 --> 05:20:25,516 again tomorrow because of 9230 05:20:25,516 --> 05:20:26,217 the actions of this council. 9231 05:20:26,217 --> 05:20:26,884 Thousands of workers are going 9232 05:20:26,884 --> 05:20:29,954 to get a pay raise from 9233 05:20:29,954 --> 05:20:30,821 the hospitality industry. 9234 05:20:30,821 --> 05:20:31,222 And I think we should be proud 9235 05:20:31,222 --> 05:20:33,222 of that. 9236 05:20:35,260 --> 05:20:35,860 And we should want to keep them 9237 05:20:35,860 --> 05:20:36,527 to keep as many of those 9238 05:20:36,527 --> 05:20:36,894 dollars in their pockets as 9239 05:20:36,894 --> 05:20:38,894 possible. 9240 05:20:39,464 --> 05:20:40,331 And you know, one of the ways 9241 05:20:40,331 --> 05:20:40,899 that we do that I think is is 9242 05:20:40,899 --> 05:20:42,899 by protecting renters. 9243 05:20:44,669 --> 05:20:45,536 And then final final thing here 9244 05:20:45,536 --> 05:20:48,573 is I want to make sure we give 9245 05:20:48,573 --> 05:20:49,340 my a shout out. 9246 05:20:49,340 --> 05:20:52,340 This is her last presentation 9247 05:20:53,811 --> 05:20:54,245 with us on staff as she's going 9248 05:20:54,245 --> 05:20:54,913 to law school. 9249 05:20:54,913 --> 05:20:57,913 And she's done an incredible 9250 05:20:58,483 --> 05:20:59,150 job with us working very 9251 05:20:59,150 --> 05:20:59,951 closely with Jeffrey on this 9252 05:20:59,951 --> 05:21:03,870 and did not want to MISS 9253 05:21:03,870 --> 05:21:05,900 The opportunity to embarrass 9254 05:21:05,900 --> 05:21:09,290 her and make her blush in this 9255 05:21:10,662 --> 05:21:11,429 on this item. 9256 05:21:11,429 --> 05:21:14,429 Uh, sorry Not sorry, Maya. 9257 05:21:15,933 --> 05:21:16,200 With that I'll hand it back to 9258 05:21:16,200 --> 05:21:16,767 you. 9259 05:21:16,767 --> 05:21:17,135 >> Council PRESIDENT. 9260 05:21:17,135 --> 05:21:17,735 All right. 9261 05:21:17,735 --> 05:21:18,169 That was well worth it. 9262 05:21:18,169 --> 05:21:20,169 Councilmember. 9263 05:21:23,574 --> 05:21:24,542 So okay. 9264 05:21:24,542 --> 05:21:28,460 I don't see anybody else in 9265 05:21:28,460 --> 05:21:28,747 the light again. 9266 05:21:28,747 --> 05:21:31,149 This was an information item. 9267 05:21:31,149 --> 05:21:35,349 No motion is required and so we 9268 05:21:36,554 --> 05:21:36,922 will close item 330. 9269 05:21:36,922 --> 05:21:37,689 Okay. 9270 05:21:37,689 --> 05:21:38,230 We have one more item for 9271 05:21:38,230 --> 05:21:40,230 the day. 9272 05:21:42,427 --> 05:21:44,827 Clerk please introduce item 9273 05:21:46,298 --> 05:21:46,898 s505 items 5a5 is an ordinance 9274 05:21:46,898 --> 05:21:47,632 amending the enforcement 9275 05:21:47,632 --> 05:21:50,535 authority under the city of San 9276 05:21:50,535 --> 05:21:51,135 Diego's living wage Prevailing 9277 05:21:51,135 --> 05:21:51,535 wage and minimum wage 9278 05:21:51,535 --> 05:21:51,903 ordinances. 9279 05:21:51,903 --> 05:21:53,903 All right. 9280 05:21:56,274 --> 05:21:57,420 Thank you Deputy Clerk. 9281 05:21:57,420 --> 05:21:59,878 At the risk of stealing their 9282 05:21:59,878 --> 05:22:00,679 thunder, this is an you could 9283 05:22:00,679 --> 05:22:03,679 argue is an implementation of 9284 05:22:05,283 --> 05:22:06,160 an action we took during budget 9285 05:22:06,160 --> 05:22:08,416 talking about moving compliance 9286 05:22:10,322 --> 05:22:10,922 into the city attorney's office 9287 05:22:10,922 --> 05:22:13,900 And this will create 9288 05:22:13,900 --> 05:22:15,900 enforcement authority by 9289 05:22:18,463 --> 05:22:19,263 the city attorney's office. 9290 05:22:19,263 --> 05:22:19,930 >> So now that you're settled 9291 05:22:19,930 --> 05:22:22,330 in, introduce yourselves for 9292 05:22:24,169 --> 05:22:24,703 the record and let us know how 9293 05:22:24,703 --> 05:22:25,370 much time you need. 9294 05:22:25,370 --> 05:22:27,770 Assistant City Attorney Jim 9295 05:22:27,772 --> 05:22:28,307 McNeil With me is Deputy City 9296 05:22:28,307 --> 05:22:30,307 Attorney Elena Min. 9297 05:22:37,282 --> 05:22:37,883 Two minutes I guess. 9298 05:22:37,883 --> 05:22:38,550 Good evening now Council 9299 05:22:38,550 --> 05:22:40,550 PRESIDENT, council president 9300 05:22:42,321 --> 05:22:43,210 Pro tem and Council members 9301 05:22:43,210 --> 05:22:43,722 The Office of City Attorney is 9302 05:22:43,722 --> 05:22:46,122 requesting City Council adopt 9303 05:22:46,725 --> 05:22:47,359 this ordinance amending several 9304 05:22:47,359 --> 05:22:47,993 municipal code ordinances 9305 05:22:47,993 --> 05:22:49,993 affecting wages including 9306 05:22:51,896 --> 05:22:52,598 the Living Wage Ordinance, air 9307 05:22:52,598 --> 05:22:53,332 traffic control worker minimum 9308 05:22:53,332 --> 05:22:53,899 wage ordinance, the earned sick 9309 05:22:53,899 --> 05:22:56,299 leave and minimum wage 9310 05:22:56,802 --> 05:22:57,436 ordinance, the Hospitality 9311 05:22:57,436 --> 05:22:58,300 minimum Wage Ordinance and 9312 05:22:58,300 --> 05:23:01,300 the City of San Diego 9313 05:23:01,306 --> 05:23:01,973 Compliance with state 9314 05:23:01,973 --> 05:23:02,674 Prevailing wage ordinance to 9315 05:23:02,674 --> 05:23:03,308 include the Office of the City 9316 05:23:03,308 --> 05:23:05,708 Attorney as an additional 9317 05:23:07,246 --> 05:23:07,913 enforcement authority as part 9318 05:23:07,913 --> 05:23:10,913 of adopting the fiscal year 9319 05:23:11,616 --> 05:23:12,317 2027 budget the Council 9320 05:23:12,317 --> 05:23:13,510 included moving the Office of 9321 05:23:13,510 --> 05:23:15,451 Labor Standards and Enforcement 9322 05:23:17,255 --> 05:23:17,990 or lsc to the Office of 9323 05:23:17,990 --> 05:23:21,159 the City Attorney as a means of 9324 05:23:21,159 --> 05:23:21,827 reducing the oil lessees impact 9325 05:23:21,827 --> 05:23:22,493 on the general fund through 9326 05:23:22,493 --> 05:23:25,664 the use of the city Attorney 9327 05:23:25,664 --> 05:23:26,398 grant and penalty funds While 9328 05:23:26,398 --> 05:23:26,999 the Office of the City Attorney 9329 05:23:26,999 --> 05:23:29,399 can file litigation for 9330 05:23:30,803 --> 05:23:31,437 violations referred to it by 9331 05:23:31,437 --> 05:23:32,400 the llc, the current wage 9332 05:23:32,400 --> 05:23:34,400 ordinances limit their 9333 05:23:35,874 --> 05:23:36,442 administrative enforcement to 9334 05:23:36,442 --> 05:23:38,442 the mayor accordingly 9335 05:23:40,812 --> 05:23:41,480 transferring of the office 9336 05:23:41,480 --> 05:23:42,214 the lsc to the office of 9337 05:23:42,214 --> 05:23:45,500 the City Attorney while leaving 9338 05:23:45,500 --> 05:23:45,751 intact its administrative 9339 05:23:45,751 --> 05:23:46,418 enforcement authority requires 9340 05:23:46,418 --> 05:23:48,818 amending those various wage 9341 05:23:49,822 --> 05:23:50,522 ordinances to allow such 9342 05:23:50,522 --> 05:23:51,900 enforcement through the Office 9343 05:23:51,900 --> 05:23:51,790 of the City Attorney. 9344 05:23:51,790 --> 05:23:54,790 That's precisely and only what 9345 05:23:55,930 --> 05:23:55,761 this ordinance with its 9346 05:23:55,761 --> 05:23:56,462 proposed amendments will do. 9347 05:23:56,462 --> 05:23:59,462 The amendments are limited to 9348 05:24:00,650 --> 05:24:00,699 providing for the office of 9349 05:24:00,699 --> 05:24:01,267 the city attorney to have 9350 05:24:01,267 --> 05:24:01,967 the same authority to 9351 05:24:01,967 --> 05:24:03,967 administratively enforce those 9352 05:24:04,637 --> 05:24:05,404 wage ordinances as the mayor. 9353 05:24:05,404 --> 05:24:06,172 We therefore ask that Council 9354 05:24:06,172 --> 05:24:09,172 adopt this ordinance to amend 9355 05:24:09,675 --> 05:24:10,276 the identified wage ordinances 9356 05:24:10,276 --> 05:24:10,876 to include the Office of 9357 05:24:10,876 --> 05:24:11,444 the City Attorney as an 9358 05:24:11,444 --> 05:24:13,444 additional enforcement 9359 05:24:14,112 --> 05:24:14,880 authority. 9360 05:24:14,880 --> 05:24:15,380 We're available to answer any 9361 05:24:15,380 --> 05:24:15,748 of your questions. 9362 05:24:15,748 --> 05:24:16,515 All right. 9363 05:24:16,515 --> 05:24:18,984 Thank you for the presentation 9364 05:24:18,984 --> 05:24:19,518 and thank you for moving 9365 05:24:19,518 --> 05:24:20,186 quickly on this with 9366 05:24:20,186 --> 05:24:23,186 the adoption of the budget. 9367 05:24:24,220 --> 05:24:24,724 With that Deputy clerk, please 9368 05:24:24,724 --> 05:24:27,124 proceed with public comments. 9369 05:24:28,194 --> 05:24:28,928 But this item received one 9370 05:24:28,928 --> 05:24:32,528 comment in opposition via our e 9371 05:24:32,932 --> 05:24:33,599 comment form which has been 9372 05:24:33,599 --> 05:24:34,266 distributed to the Council. 9373 05:24:34,266 --> 05:24:36,502 We will begin with in person 9374 05:24:36,502 --> 05:24:37,360 comment allegedly order it 9375 05:24:37,360 --> 05:24:37,770 please come forward. 9376 05:24:37,770 --> 05:24:40,770 You'll have two minutes to 9377 05:24:46,512 --> 05:24:48,512 speak. 9378 05:24:51,951 --> 05:24:52,685 >> So anyhow I was wondering if 9379 05:24:52,685 --> 05:24:53,319 we could call sd Junior because 9380 05:24:53,319 --> 05:24:53,986 the gasoline you guys keep 9381 05:24:53,986 --> 05:24:56,856 pouring out on the people is 9382 05:24:56,856 --> 05:24:57,523 just brilliant sense and I 9383 05:24:57,523 --> 05:24:58,224 don't know if they can do 9384 05:24:58,224 --> 05:24:58,891 something about that but Shawn 9385 05:24:58,891 --> 05:25:01,270 what are you talking about? 9386 05:25:01,270 --> 05:25:01,293 The rest of us trying to get 9387 05:25:01,293 --> 05:25:02,280 by. 9388 05:25:02,280 --> 05:25:02,528 Why are you acting like you're 9389 05:25:02,528 --> 05:25:04,928 trying to get by? 9390 05:25:06,265 --> 05:25:06,966 That's not fair to the people 9391 05:25:06,966 --> 05:25:07,700 that are trying to get by 9392 05:25:07,700 --> 05:25:10,836 because you I don't know if you 9393 05:25:10,836 --> 05:25:11,571 got a frog in your pocket but 9394 05:25:11,571 --> 05:25:12,304 the way that you that's totally 9395 05:25:12,304 --> 05:25:15,304 gaslighting the people that are 9396 05:25:16,476 --> 05:25:17,210 actually trying to make ends 9397 05:25:17,210 --> 05:25:17,944 meet not sitting up on a dias 9398 05:25:17,944 --> 05:25:21,213 with an electric by most people 9399 05:25:21,213 --> 05:25:21,714 would love to have an electric 9400 05:25:21,714 --> 05:25:22,414 bike like you got. 9401 05:25:22,414 --> 05:25:22,849 They couldn't even afford that 9402 05:25:22,849 --> 05:25:24,849 kind of stuff. 9403 05:25:25,518 --> 05:25:26,486 I mean they can't even afford 9404 05:25:26,486 --> 05:25:27,186 to eat And you guys are up here 9405 05:25:27,186 --> 05:25:29,586 talking about prevailing wages 9406 05:25:30,556 --> 05:25:31,391 and a living wage. 9407 05:25:31,391 --> 05:25:31,691 Who are you to be determining 9408 05:25:31,691 --> 05:25:33,691 that? 9409 05:25:35,995 --> 05:25:36,729 I mean again until you guys are 9410 05:25:36,729 --> 05:25:40,329 putting in setting your wage at 9411 05:25:40,733 --> 05:25:41,501 minimum wage and seeing what 9412 05:25:41,501 --> 05:25:45,471 it's like trying to get by like 9413 05:25:45,471 --> 05:25:46,272 the rest of us, I don't think 9414 05:25:46,272 --> 05:25:46,806 it's fair for you to be even 9415 05:25:46,806 --> 05:25:48,806 talking about this. 9416 05:25:50,643 --> 05:25:51,311 It's a slap in the face to act 9417 05:25:51,311 --> 05:25:51,711 like you have any idea what 9418 05:25:51,711 --> 05:25:53,711 that's like. 9419 05:25:55,381 --> 05:25:56,182 You MAY have known it at point 9420 05:25:56,182 --> 05:25:56,950 in your life but I don't feel 9421 05:25:56,950 --> 05:26:00,353 like you've taken that with you 9422 05:26:00,353 --> 05:26:01,540 to go Oh hey, you know, I mean 9423 05:26:01,540 --> 05:26:01,754 as you sit here and go 9424 05:26:01,754 --> 05:26:05,124 the people decided to give you 9425 05:26:05,124 --> 05:26:05,858 guys raises every time. 9426 05:26:05,858 --> 05:26:06,526 I mean it's just ridiculous 9427 05:26:06,526 --> 05:26:08,928 the kind of stuff that takes 9428 05:26:08,928 --> 05:26:09,829 place and you know, you don't 9429 05:26:09,829 --> 05:26:10,497 know how to stretch a buck 9430 05:26:10,497 --> 05:26:11,197 because you guys come to us 9431 05:26:11,197 --> 05:26:14,733 time and again for more money 9432 05:26:14,733 --> 05:26:15,435 and then you want to pit 9433 05:26:15,435 --> 05:26:16,102 landlords and tenants against 9434 05:26:16,102 --> 05:26:19,673 each other when you guys are 9435 05:26:19,673 --> 05:26:20,406 making the cost of living go up 9436 05:26:20,406 --> 05:26:21,740 and it's like you sitting there 9437 05:26:21,740 --> 05:26:21,808 going like we're going to go 9438 05:26:21,808 --> 05:26:24,760 after the corporations that are 9439 05:26:24,760 --> 05:26:24,711 screwing you guys And it's like 9440 05:26:24,711 --> 05:26:25,678 That's what you guys are. 9441 05:26:25,678 --> 05:26:29,382 So I mean it's just like so 9442 05:26:29,382 --> 05:26:29,983 hypocrite or cool to sit there 9443 05:26:29,983 --> 05:26:32,983 and act like you guys 9444 05:26:33,386 --> 05:26:34,153 understand and that you are 9445 05:26:34,153 --> 05:26:34,554 equipped to be able to set 9446 05:26:34,554 --> 05:26:36,554 these wages. 9447 05:26:38,792 --> 05:26:39,492 So I mean if yours is going to 9448 05:26:39,492 --> 05:26:42,895 be set high let's be equitable 9449 05:26:42,895 --> 05:26:43,663 either you make yours high or 9450 05:26:43,663 --> 05:26:47,263 ours higher and or yours lower 9451 05:26:47,733 --> 05:26:48,568 but it needs to be the same and 9452 05:26:48,568 --> 05:26:49,202 you need to be doing practicing 9453 05:26:49,202 --> 05:26:50,360 what you preach instead of 9454 05:26:50,360 --> 05:26:52,380 sitting up here on a dice and 9455 05:26:52,380 --> 05:26:55,638 acting like you guys you know 9456 05:26:56,476 --> 05:26:56,775 what it's like to do your time 9457 05:26:56,775 --> 05:26:57,544 . 9458 05:26:57,544 --> 05:26:58,245 We also have a speaker slip 9459 05:26:58,245 --> 05:26:59,450 from Anthony Ralphs However I 9460 05:26:59,450 --> 05:27:01,848 don't see him here so we will 9461 05:27:01,848 --> 05:27:04,248 turn to virtual comment. 9462 05:27:05,585 --> 05:27:06,286 I have started the five minute 9463 05:27:06,286 --> 05:27:07,200 timer and council chambers and 9464 05:27:07,200 --> 05:27:09,322 we'll turn to the virtual queue 9465 05:27:09,322 --> 05:27:10,230 in which there are currently 9466 05:27:10,230 --> 05:27:12,230 three participants requesting 9467 05:27:15,940 --> 05:27:18,694 to speak And begin with Hector. 9468 05:27:20,267 --> 05:27:21,340 Please begin. 9469 05:27:21,340 --> 05:27:24,237 All right this will be cool. 9470 05:27:24,237 --> 05:27:24,937 Hey when the mass rapid 9471 05:27:24,937 --> 05:27:27,337 deportation begins it's going 9472 05:27:28,909 --> 05:27:29,575 to open up a lot of housing 9473 05:27:29,575 --> 05:27:33,175 units and drive the cost of 9474 05:27:33,847 --> 05:27:34,715 labor up. 9475 05:27:34,715 --> 05:27:35,582 You know there'll be less labor 9476 05:27:35,582 --> 05:27:39,182 guys working so guys will get 9477 05:27:39,186 --> 05:27:39,920 out a pay raise to find them. 9478 05:27:39,920 --> 05:27:43,520 So when you guys get involved 9479 05:27:43,690 --> 05:27:44,324 in this mass deportation it's 9480 05:27:44,324 --> 05:27:46,724 going to actually increase 9481 05:27:48,162 --> 05:27:48,862 wages because produce less guys 9482 05:27:48,862 --> 05:27:51,862 looking for jobs so they'll 9483 05:27:52,466 --> 05:27:53,200 have to pay us more So it's 9484 05:27:53,200 --> 05:27:56,200 also the temporary legal status 9485 05:27:56,736 --> 05:27:57,437 has been removed from over a 9486 05:27:57,437 --> 05:27:58,137 million people in America and 9487 05:27:58,137 --> 05:28:01,675 that means a lot of people in 9488 05:28:01,675 --> 05:28:02,342 San Diego County have lost 9489 05:28:02,342 --> 05:28:04,742 their temporary legal status 9490 05:28:06,713 --> 05:28:07,247 status even if they've lived 9491 05:28:07,247 --> 05:28:09,247 there for 15 years. 9492 05:28:11,452 --> 05:28:12,520 They got to go. 9493 05:28:12,520 --> 05:28:12,719 If they're not American 9494 05:28:12,719 --> 05:28:16,319 citizens, they got to go now 9495 05:28:17,570 --> 05:28:17,891 Trump is a rap rap Beat it up. 9496 05:28:17,891 --> 05:28:21,395 This is just one angle so you 9497 05:28:21,395 --> 05:28:22,196 guys get to keep talking about 9498 05:28:22,196 --> 05:28:22,896 how to build more housing If 9499 05:28:22,896 --> 05:28:25,896 there's less people living in 9500 05:28:26,990 --> 05:28:26,800 housing it's going to open up 9501 05:28:26,800 --> 05:28:27,167 more housing for like American 9502 05:28:27,167 --> 05:28:29,167 citizens. 9503 05:28:31,238 --> 05:28:31,905 So that would be a great angle 9504 05:28:31,905 --> 05:28:32,606 And then you mention it But 9505 05:28:32,606 --> 05:28:35,606 that's what's really going on 9506 05:28:35,909 --> 05:28:36,577 here man. 9507 05:28:36,577 --> 05:28:37,177 All these illegal guys are 9508 05:28:37,177 --> 05:28:37,511 taking up the low rental 9509 05:28:37,511 --> 05:28:39,511 prices. 9510 05:28:40,881 --> 05:28:41,749 Even the high rental places. 9511 05:28:41,749 --> 05:28:45,349 You know they buy houses too 9512 05:28:45,419 --> 05:28:46,186 and stuff But like the Chinese 9513 05:28:46,186 --> 05:28:46,921 guys are buying houses driving 9514 05:28:46,921 --> 05:28:50,521 up the cost and they're just 9515 05:28:50,591 --> 05:28:52,991 they're scamming the system 9516 05:28:55,295 --> 05:28:55,929 when they're pregnant baby 9517 05:28:55,929 --> 05:28:56,630 factories getting citizens 9518 05:28:56,630 --> 05:28:59,630 they're the ones are scamming 9519 05:29:00,267 --> 05:29:01,350 right in the open. 9520 05:29:01,350 --> 05:29:04,635 So go after those guys and 9521 05:29:05,406 --> 05:29:06,600 anybody on the city payroll 9522 05:29:06,600 --> 05:29:08,406 that has temporary legal 9523 05:29:10,244 --> 05:29:10,878 stature status has to go No 9524 05:29:10,878 --> 05:29:11,245 paying those guys any more 9525 05:29:11,245 --> 05:29:13,245 paychecks. 9526 05:29:15,283 --> 05:29:15,850 There's got to be like 9527 05:29:15,850 --> 05:29:16,450 the hundreds of them. 9528 05:29:16,450 --> 05:29:19,386 How many are there talk 9529 05:29:19,386 --> 05:29:20,540 the city attorney how many 9530 05:29:20,540 --> 05:29:22,454 people with temporary legal 9531 05:29:24,250 --> 05:29:24,858 status work for the city that 9532 05:29:24,858 --> 05:29:25,326 that would be a good question. 9533 05:29:25,326 --> 05:29:26,270 >> Thank you. 9534 05:29:26,270 --> 05:29:29,270 That does conclude your time. 9535 05:29:33,200 --> 05:29:34,101 Blaire for Beekman please begin 9536 05:29:34,101 --> 05:29:37,380 by Blair Big Ben thanks a lot 9537 05:29:37,380 --> 05:29:40,380 for this item Giving City 9538 05:29:41,842 --> 05:29:42,543 Attorney a bit more power for 9539 05:29:42,543 --> 05:29:42,910 an issue like this is 9540 05:29:42,910 --> 05:29:44,910 important. 9541 05:29:46,414 --> 05:29:47,480 Thank you. 9542 05:29:47,480 --> 05:29:47,882 I'm really interested how 9543 05:29:47,882 --> 05:29:51,285 the city of San Diego can be 9544 05:29:51,285 --> 05:29:52,153 working towards a future of 9545 05:29:52,153 --> 05:29:55,753 some sort of an Office of 9546 05:29:56,490 --> 05:29:57,191 Immigration And I think these 9547 05:29:57,191 --> 05:29:59,591 items living wage, prevailing 9548 05:30:01,428 --> 05:30:03,828 wage, minimum wage ordinances 9549 05:30:06,167 --> 05:30:06,934 and dres issues of child 9550 05:30:06,934 --> 05:30:09,934 trafficking and all be really 9551 05:30:10,238 --> 05:30:10,872 important concepts in 9552 05:30:10,872 --> 05:30:14,472 the future of an Office of 9553 05:30:15,760 --> 05:30:15,977 Immigration in San Diego San 9554 05:30:15,977 --> 05:30:16,744 Jose has one They started one a 9555 05:30:16,744 --> 05:30:19,981 few years ago and it's an 9556 05:30:19,981 --> 05:30:20,681 interesting concept that I know 9557 05:30:20,681 --> 05:30:21,449 you guys have talked about but 9558 05:30:21,449 --> 05:30:24,449 you don't want to further 9559 05:30:24,852 --> 05:30:25,218 develop and I think we really 9560 05:30:25,218 --> 05:30:26,220 should be. 9561 05:30:26,220 --> 05:30:29,624 I think it can really address a 9562 05:30:29,624 --> 05:30:30,258 previous previous public 9563 05:30:30,258 --> 05:30:31,920 commenters comments that I 9564 05:30:31,920 --> 05:30:34,294 think he's living in a bit of a 9565 05:30:34,294 --> 05:30:34,829 fantasy world If he thinks that 9566 05:30:34,829 --> 05:30:37,229 we're going to just 9567 05:30:38,866 --> 05:30:39,634 continuously be deporting 9568 05:30:39,634 --> 05:30:40,101 people I don't think that's our 9569 05:30:40,101 --> 05:30:42,101 American future. 9570 05:30:42,971 --> 05:30:43,671 I think this is a one time two 9571 05:30:43,671 --> 05:30:44,439 year shot for Trump that we're 9572 05:30:44,439 --> 05:30:47,439 already, you know, easing off 9573 05:30:47,942 --> 05:30:48,643 of and that we are going to be 9574 05:30:48,643 --> 05:30:52,113 using our hope more because we 9575 05:30:52,113 --> 05:30:52,914 are going to be developing more 9576 05:30:52,914 --> 05:30:53,781 clear policies I think that can 9577 05:30:53,781 --> 05:30:57,381 be everyone can relate to with 9578 05:30:57,752 --> 05:30:58,419 ideas like a piece of 9579 05:30:58,419 --> 05:31:01,419 immigration that we can talk 9580 05:31:02,123 --> 05:31:02,856 with and that can address drug 9581 05:31:02,856 --> 05:31:05,856 concerns, that can address, you 9582 05:31:10,490 --> 05:31:10,208 know, worker rights concerns. 9583 05:31:10,208 --> 05:31:10,363 Good luck in those sort of 9584 05:31:10,363 --> 05:31:12,000 efforts to consider that way of 9585 05:31:12,000 --> 05:31:12,634 thinking as opposed to just 9586 05:31:12,634 --> 05:31:15,340 everyone's illegal or not. 9587 05:31:17,380 --> 05:31:17,338 It's a lot more shaded than 9588 05:31:17,338 --> 05:31:18,720 this. 9589 05:31:18,720 --> 05:31:18,807 So black and white I think good 9590 05:31:18,807 --> 05:31:21,876 luck how we understand that and 9591 05:31:21,876 --> 05:31:22,544 work that together better in 9592 05:31:22,544 --> 05:31:23,144 the future and come up with 9593 05:31:23,144 --> 05:31:25,144 really good immigration 9594 05:31:26,681 --> 05:31:27,349 policies and to conclude I 9595 05:31:27,349 --> 05:31:30,949 think in in the Brown Act 9596 05:31:31,519 --> 05:31:32,120 process if you had an item at 9597 05:31:32,120 --> 05:31:32,820 the committee or council 9598 05:31:32,820 --> 05:31:35,820 meeting before you can remove 9599 05:31:36,657 --> 05:31:37,292 it and not have people comment 9600 05:31:37,292 --> 05:31:37,826 but eventually that does 9601 05:31:37,826 --> 05:31:38,259 conclude your time. 9602 05:31:38,259 --> 05:31:40,259 >> Thank you. 9603 05:31:41,629 --> 05:31:42,330 Our next speaker is a caller 9604 05:31:42,330 --> 05:31:45,330 with the last four digits 8700 9605 05:31:52,574 --> 05:31:55,309 Please begin Joy okay first of 9606 05:31:55,309 --> 05:31:56,111 all I'll be on point and then I 9607 05:31:56,111 --> 05:31:56,411 want to add a couple of things. 9608 05:31:56,411 --> 05:31:58,411 Yes. 9609 05:32:00,140 --> 05:32:02,414 To this ordinance adjustment 9610 05:32:04,219 --> 05:32:05,186 and I support that. 9611 05:32:05,186 --> 05:32:09,386 I wish I could say this exactly 9612 05:32:09,991 --> 05:32:10,659 precisely right. 9613 05:32:10,659 --> 05:32:11,293 The only question I need and 9614 05:32:11,293 --> 05:32:11,960 it's probably answered in 9615 05:32:11,960 --> 05:32:14,696 the backup is that I have 9616 05:32:14,696 --> 05:32:15,397 clarity on the authority of 9617 05:32:15,397 --> 05:32:15,831 the mayor versus the office of 9618 05:32:15,831 --> 05:32:17,831 the attorney. 9619 05:32:20,168 --> 05:32:20,935 It sounded like it was a 9620 05:32:20,935 --> 05:32:23,935 matching authority equal but I 9621 05:32:25,273 --> 05:32:25,874 am not sure on that But I 9622 05:32:25,874 --> 05:32:28,274 approve this item full 9623 05:32:29,478 --> 05:32:29,811 heartedly so a couple of 9624 05:32:29,811 --> 05:32:30,645 things. 9625 05:32:30,645 --> 05:32:30,945 No, I got to get this off my 9626 05:32:30,945 --> 05:32:32,945 chest. 9627 05:32:34,349 --> 05:32:38,520 Got to get all of you make an 9628 05:32:38,520 --> 05:32:42,120 amazing salary in my opinion I 9629 05:32:42,591 --> 05:32:43,392 think it's $180,000 a month. 9630 05:32:43,392 --> 05:32:46,392 That's a lot of money 9631 05:32:47,195 --> 05:32:47,863 especially when you're you 9632 05:32:47,863 --> 05:32:49,863 understand what underserved 9633 05:32:52,134 --> 05:32:52,834 communities are doing are where 9634 05:32:52,834 --> 05:32:55,834 where they're living and what 9635 05:32:56,505 --> 05:32:58,905 they're what they're facing. 9636 05:33:01,900 --> 05:33:01,609 I want a more together 9637 05:33:01,609 --> 05:33:04,900 professional look of our 9638 05:33:07,820 --> 05:33:07,816 council Where is money? 9639 05:33:07,816 --> 05:33:10,216 Well, for Councilmember Van 9640 05:33:10,619 --> 05:33:11,386 Wilpert, MR. Councilmember for 9641 05:33:11,386 --> 05:33:12,187 the third you were absent a lot 9642 05:33:12,187 --> 05:33:15,187 during budget and you've been 9643 05:33:16,425 --> 05:33:20,129 absent a lot And I don't get it 9644 05:33:20,129 --> 05:33:20,863 And it doesn't feel good And I 9645 05:33:20,863 --> 05:33:23,263 know you're following protocols 9646 05:33:24,967 --> 05:33:25,768 but I want you to step up. 9647 05:33:25,768 --> 05:33:28,768 >> I don't want quorum issues. 9648 05:33:29,571 --> 05:33:30,439 I don't want the budget meeting 9649 05:33:30,439 --> 05:33:34,639 start I want you to show us 9650 05:33:35,277 --> 05:33:38,277 your noble engaging what you 9651 05:33:40,820 --> 05:33:40,615 the people voted you for for 9652 05:33:40,615 --> 05:33:41,350 the city of Sandy. 9653 05:33:41,350 --> 05:33:44,950 Oh, and we deserve that And 9654 05:33:44,954 --> 05:33:45,620 please do that for us. 9655 05:33:45,620 --> 05:33:46,555 And I love you. 9656 05:33:46,555 --> 05:33:49,792 I love you Now I like the idea 9657 05:33:49,792 --> 05:33:50,458 of the immigration office 9658 05:33:50,458 --> 05:33:51,600 because I don't understand 9659 05:33:51,600 --> 05:33:53,460 what's happening to our 9660 05:33:55,998 --> 05:33:56,632 refugees and immigrants and how 9661 05:33:56,632 --> 05:33:56,999 they're going to get home. 9662 05:33:56,999 --> 05:33:57,700 Thank you. 9663 05:33:57,700 --> 05:33:58,670 That does conclude your time. 9664 05:33:58,670 --> 05:33:59,668 Thank you. 9665 05:33:59,668 --> 05:33:59,969 Our next speaker is Natalie 9666 05:33:59,969 --> 05:34:01,969 Rashi. 9667 05:34:05,407 --> 05:34:05,807 Please begin. 9668 05:34:05,807 --> 05:34:06,842 >> Hi. 9669 05:34:06,842 --> 05:34:10,379 Um I stated this I think this 9670 05:34:10,379 --> 05:34:11,800 week or last week we're going 9671 05:34:11,800 --> 05:34:14,680 to have to start being really 9672 05:34:15,217 --> 05:34:15,551 innovative in how we move 9673 05:34:15,551 --> 05:34:16,285 forward. 9674 05:34:16,285 --> 05:34:17,153 I've been doing some deep dives 9675 05:34:17,153 --> 05:34:19,755 into A.I. And how that MAY or 9676 05:34:19,755 --> 05:34:22,755 MAY not affect our community. 9677 05:34:24,293 --> 05:34:25,940 It's moving faster than I think 9678 05:34:25,940 --> 05:34:28,694 people are really wanting to be 9679 05:34:30,299 --> 05:34:33,899 aware of and everything that we 9680 05:34:35,271 --> 05:34:39,471 do as a collective I think has 9681 05:34:39,908 --> 05:34:40,209 to be intentional and strategic 9682 05:34:40,209 --> 05:34:40,943 . 9683 05:34:40,943 --> 05:34:44,543 There are big A.I. Companies, 9684 05:34:46,820 --> 05:34:50,282 big people that are I would say 9685 05:34:50,686 --> 05:34:51,487 sociopaths that are trying to 9686 05:34:51,487 --> 05:34:52,188 do things and run this country 9687 05:34:52,188 --> 05:34:55,725 your way that I'm not choosing 9688 05:34:55,725 --> 05:34:56,425 that I want to participate in 9689 05:34:56,425 --> 05:34:57,193 these the wages I don't even 9690 05:34:57,193 --> 05:35:00,193 know what that means anymore 9691 05:35:01,731 --> 05:35:02,431 And that's why I've been really 9692 05:35:02,431 --> 05:35:04,831 focused on building community 9693 05:35:06,569 --> 05:35:07,470 and building business because 9694 05:35:07,470 --> 05:35:08,204 if this is going to go the way 9695 05:35:08,204 --> 05:35:11,804 that some of these people these 9696 05:35:12,308 --> 05:35:12,875 techs are trying to make it go 9697 05:35:12,875 --> 05:35:13,676 I just read an article 9698 05:35:13,676 --> 05:35:17,276 yesterday in The Voice of San 9699 05:35:17,747 --> 05:35:18,548 Diego. 9700 05:35:18,548 --> 05:35:19,215 They have an ai robot teacher, 9701 05:35:19,215 --> 05:35:22,585 the first one in San Diego. 9702 05:35:22,585 --> 05:35:23,353 That's insane. 9703 05:35:23,353 --> 05:35:26,953 And the look on those kids 9704 05:35:27,390 --> 05:35:27,724 Facebook looked like they were 9705 05:35:27,724 --> 05:35:29,724 scared. 9706 05:35:32,228 --> 05:35:32,995 >> It's a six foot two robot. 9707 05:35:32,995 --> 05:35:35,995 It's strange but that's where 9708 05:35:38,368 --> 05:35:39,202 we're at. 9709 05:35:39,202 --> 05:35:39,969 So I don't know where that 9710 05:35:39,969 --> 05:35:43,373 leads us when it comes to jobs 9711 05:35:43,373 --> 05:35:44,307 At the end of the day. 9712 05:35:44,307 --> 05:35:45,700 But like I said, I think we 9713 05:35:45,700 --> 05:35:48,607 have to get innovative and say 9714 05:35:49,345 --> 05:35:50,113 no when it's time to say no and 9715 05:35:50,113 --> 05:35:54,160 stand up for what you know what 9716 05:35:54,160 --> 05:35:54,317 is human and what is not human 9717 05:35:54,317 --> 05:35:54,717 . 9718 05:35:54,717 --> 05:35:55,117 >> Thanks. 9719 05:35:55,117 --> 05:35:55,851 Thank you. 9720 05:35:55,851 --> 05:35:58,251 That concludes public testimony 9721 05:35:59,455 --> 05:35:59,922 on items 5o5. 9722 05:35:59,922 --> 05:36:00,590 All right. 9723 05:36:00,590 --> 05:36:03,590 Thank you, Deputy Clerk I'll 9724 05:36:04,594 --> 05:36:05,280 turn over my colleagues 9725 05:36:05,280 --> 05:36:05,695 questions. 9726 05:36:05,695 --> 05:36:06,429 Comments Entertain a motion. 9727 05:36:06,429 --> 05:36:10,290 I'm going to start with Council 9728 05:36:10,967 --> 05:36:11,668 PRESIDENT Pro Tem Lee and then 9729 05:36:11,668 --> 05:36:12,368 I think Council member Foster 9730 05:36:12,368 --> 05:36:13,690 was next up and then I'm going 9731 05:36:13,690 --> 05:36:15,469 to Councilmember Kimball I'll 9732 05:36:16,939 --> 05:36:17,641 actually defer first to 9733 05:36:17,641 --> 05:36:18,208 Councilmember Foster to start 9734 05:36:18,208 --> 05:36:18,607 this from a budgetary 9735 05:36:18,607 --> 05:36:19,976 perspective. 9736 05:36:19,976 --> 05:36:23,576 Wasn't sure who hit first but 9737 05:36:25,915 --> 05:36:26,219 COUNCILMAN Foster Oh your Thank 9738 05:36:26,219 --> 05:36:26,583 you. 9739 05:36:26,583 --> 05:36:26,949 No worries. 9740 05:36:26,949 --> 05:36:28,949 Thank you. 9741 05:36:31,821 --> 05:36:32,555 Council PRESIDENT And I just 9742 05:36:32,555 --> 05:36:33,255 really want to thank MADAM City 9743 05:36:33,255 --> 05:36:36,855 attorney for the quick work on 9744 05:36:37,728 --> 05:36:38,461 this and also want to thank her 9745 05:36:38,461 --> 05:36:40,861 for identifying for identifying 9746 05:36:43,433 --> 05:36:43,967 this as we were working through 9747 05:36:43,967 --> 05:36:45,967 the budget process. 9748 05:36:48,380 --> 05:36:48,838 I think those are the you know, 9749 05:36:48,838 --> 05:36:53,380 as we are continuing to look at 9750 05:36:53,443 --> 05:36:54,344 the structural deficit and look 9751 05:36:54,344 --> 05:36:55,450 out look at how we continue to 9752 05:36:55,450 --> 05:36:58,450 meet our obligations, I think 9753 05:36:59,282 --> 05:36:59,950 this was an opportunity that 9754 05:36:59,950 --> 05:37:00,817 was brought to the table at 9755 05:37:00,817 --> 05:37:05,170 the right time to where we can 9756 05:37:05,822 --> 05:37:08,822 expand our processes and some 9757 05:37:11,595 --> 05:37:12,329 improvements and have a little 9758 05:37:12,329 --> 05:37:15,929 more flexibility in what we can 9759 05:37:16,334 --> 05:37:17,299 do, what we cannot do now. 9760 05:37:17,299 --> 05:37:21,499 >> So I just want to think that 9761 05:37:21,805 --> 05:37:22,772 also just wanted to make sure 9762 05:37:22,772 --> 05:37:26,972 and Jim, if you could I just 9763 05:37:27,611 --> 05:37:28,245 want to make sure that we 9764 05:37:28,245 --> 05:37:31,245 continue to do our annual 9765 05:37:33,550 --> 05:37:34,522 reports coming before committee 9766 05:37:34,522 --> 05:37:38,722 council as we look at all these 9767 05:37:39,523 --> 05:37:40,424 processes that we have in place 9768 05:37:40,424 --> 05:37:44,624 to make sure we are meeting our 9769 05:37:45,796 --> 05:37:46,163 intended goals that we are 9770 05:37:46,163 --> 05:37:46,830 targeting. 9771 05:37:46,830 --> 05:37:50,430 So just wanted to make sure 9772 05:37:51,401 --> 05:37:51,701 that we can continue to do that 9773 05:37:51,701 --> 05:37:52,369 . 9774 05:37:52,369 --> 05:37:52,669 >> Can you confirm that? 9775 05:37:52,669 --> 05:37:52,970 Yes. 9776 05:37:52,970 --> 05:37:53,670 Yes. 9777 05:37:53,670 --> 05:37:56,700 Councilmember Foster thank you 9778 05:37:56,974 --> 05:37:57,908 for the question. 9779 05:37:57,908 --> 05:37:58,208 >> Yes, that will carry on as 9780 05:37:58,208 --> 05:37:58,575 usual. 9781 05:37:58,575 --> 05:37:58,942 All right. 9782 05:37:58,942 --> 05:38:00,942 Thank you. 9783 05:38:02,412 --> 05:38:03,312 And Jim, thank you for moving 9784 05:38:03,312 --> 05:38:07,512 so quickly with this as this is 9785 05:38:08,218 --> 05:38:09,860 a very important item I would 9786 05:38:09,860 --> 05:38:09,520 say for myself and I think for 9787 05:38:09,520 --> 05:38:10,320 this council. 9788 05:38:10,320 --> 05:38:14,520 And so with that I will move 9789 05:38:14,857 --> 05:38:15,458 staff's recommendation. 9790 05:38:15,458 --> 05:38:15,926 >> All right. 9791 05:38:15,926 --> 05:38:16,694 Thank you, sir. 9792 05:38:16,694 --> 05:38:17,394 So a motion by Councilmember 9793 05:38:17,394 --> 05:38:18,610 Foster to move the recommended 9794 05:38:18,610 --> 05:38:20,461 staff recommendation will go 9795 05:38:21,198 --> 05:38:21,898 now to council PRESIDENT Pro 9796 05:38:21,898 --> 05:38:22,599 Tem Lee and Council PRESIDENT 9797 05:38:22,599 --> 05:38:26,199 And I'll second the motion and 9798 05:38:27,400 --> 05:38:27,638 also share my thanks to City 9799 05:38:27,638 --> 05:38:28,172 Attorney Firmat for really 9800 05:38:28,172 --> 05:38:28,572 bringing forth this 9801 05:38:28,572 --> 05:38:30,572 opportunity. 9802 05:38:32,409 --> 05:38:33,210 And I think this is more than 9803 05:38:33,210 --> 05:38:33,944 just a logistical move that has 9804 05:38:33,944 --> 05:38:36,944 the potential of saving funding 9805 05:38:38,515 --> 05:38:38,816 from a general fund standpoint 9806 05:38:38,816 --> 05:38:39,650 . 9807 05:38:39,650 --> 05:38:40,317 What it really is is is taking 9808 05:38:40,317 --> 05:38:43,317 an office that actually had 9809 05:38:44,420 --> 05:38:45,289 been shifted in the last year 9810 05:38:45,289 --> 05:38:46,230 and a half or so to just being 9811 05:38:46,230 --> 05:38:49,230 the division of labor standards 9812 05:38:50,327 --> 05:38:51,610 under the city treasurer to a 9813 05:38:51,610 --> 05:38:51,762 place where I think we have an 9814 05:38:51,762 --> 05:38:52,363 opportunity to actually think 9815 05:38:52,363 --> 05:38:55,363 about how we do better 9816 05:38:57,167 --> 05:38:57,767 enforcement on this front And I 9817 05:38:57,767 --> 05:38:58,469 think enabling the city 9818 05:38:58,469 --> 05:39:00,869 Attorney's office to actually 9819 05:39:02,606 --> 05:39:03,407 conduct that work to oversee it 9820 05:39:03,407 --> 05:39:04,174 has many advantages And again I 9821 05:39:04,174 --> 05:39:04,908 think we have a lot of thanks 9822 05:39:04,908 --> 05:39:08,508 to the office and city attorney 9823 05:39:08,546 --> 05:39:08,879 for it for bringing this 9824 05:39:08,879 --> 05:39:09,546 forward. 9825 05:39:09,546 --> 05:39:09,947 >> So again with that happy 9826 05:39:09,947 --> 05:39:10,314 commission. 9827 05:39:10,314 --> 05:39:10,780 All right. 9828 05:39:10,780 --> 05:39:11,315 Thank you, sir. 9829 05:39:11,315 --> 05:39:14,315 We have a motion by 9830 05:39:14,952 --> 05:39:15,686 Councilmember Foster in a 9831 05:39:15,686 --> 05:39:16,419 second by council PRESIDENT Pro 9832 05:39:16,419 --> 05:39:16,821 Tem Lee Not see anybody else in 9833 05:39:16,821 --> 05:39:18,821 the lights. 9834 05:39:19,190 --> 05:39:20,240 Clerk Please call the roll. 9835 05:39:20,240 --> 05:39:20,357 >> I have set up the voting 9836 05:39:20,357 --> 05:39:22,357 system. 9837 05:39:25,930 --> 05:39:29,530 Please cast your vote and we 9838 05:39:31,969 --> 05:39:32,536 will need a verbal vote from 9839 05:39:32,536 --> 05:39:32,936 Councilmember Foster. 9840 05:39:32,936 --> 05:39:34,936 I vote yes. 9841 05:39:38,900 --> 05:39:38,742 Thank you. 9842 05:39:38,742 --> 05:39:39,343 The item passes unanimously So 9843 05:39:39,343 --> 05:39:41,743 nothing with the council 9844 05:39:44,448 --> 05:39:44,782 districts five and eight 9845 05:39:44,782 --> 05:39:45,216 absent. 9846 05:39:45,216 --> 05:39:47,216 >> All right. 9847 05:39:49,854 --> 05:39:50,588 Thank you for the good work and 9848 05:39:50,588 --> 05:39:51,289 thank you for the presentation 9849 05:39:51,289 --> 05:39:53,689 and patiently waiting through 9850 05:39:56,427 --> 05:39:57,295 this afternoon's agenda. 9851 05:39:57,295 --> 05:39:57,962 So with that we will now 9852 05:39:57,962 --> 05:39:58,629 adjourn Council to the next 9853 05:39:58,629 --> 05:40:00,629 regularly scheduled council 9854 05:40:03,300 --> 05:40:04,168 meeting on Monday JULY six, 9855 05:40:04,168 --> 05:40:07,305 2026 at 10 P.M. And as a 9856 05:40:07,305 --> 05:40:08,500 reminder the new changes under 9857 05:40:08,500 --> 05:40:11,605 sb seven seven will be effect